[12:01] <ccooke> Duski: however, as you said you get errors... it's hugely unlikely to work
[12:01] <nuaimat> birdmun , longwave , guys , here is the output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20405
[12:01] <birdmun> Wibble-, im not sure but could you just make a symbolic link to the g++ ?
[12:01] <gnomefreak> longwave: the bot is being worked on atm
[12:01] <Dreamglider> whats the diffrence of a primary and a extended partion, anything i need to worie about ?
[12:01] <Wibble-> I could do birdmun - but I'm really warey about doing things in non-ubuntu ways :)
[12:02] <birdmun> ic
[12:02] <Dreamglider> i have never used any extended partions, only primary, but i have never had more than four partions.
[12:02] <nuaimat> about the wine problem , here is the output ngdebugger...
[12:02] <nuaimat> wine:Unhandledpagefaultonwriteaccessto0x003ffd80ataddress0x7e791c0e(thread000b),startingdebugger...
[12:02] <nuaimat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20405
[12:02] <sproingie> Wibble-: use alternatives to point at the gcc version you want
[12:02] <nails30403> Hi, I've done the fix for sound in flash but sound is out of sync. Is there any workaround for this?
[12:02] <sproingie> Wibble-: i recommend using galternatives, apt-get install galternatives
[12:03] <saptech> Dreamglider: with primary, you can only have four but with extended, you can have more than four
[12:03] <Wibble-> sproingie: cool - thanks
[12:03] <JohnnyG> I have been trying for four hours to get madwifi installed so that my wifi works in Ubuntu. I'm a newbie and the documents seem to go in circles. Can one install madwifi via synapse?
[12:03] <carpediem> Duski: you might want to try dd_rescue, and if that doesn't work, dd_rhelp.  http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/superpat?entry=hard_drive_recovery_ubuntu_style
[12:03] <Duski> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo dd if=/dev/hda of=/mnt/hd  bs=8192
[12:03] <Duski> dd: reading `/dev/hda': Input/output error
[12:03] <Duski> 0+0 records in
[12:03] <Duski> 0+0 records out
[12:03] <Duski> 0 bytes (0 B) copied, 1.82413 seconds, 0.0 kB/s
[12:03] <sproingie> Wibble-: personally i don't bother, i just create symlinks
[12:03] <void^> JohnnyG: madwifi is in linux-restricted-modules
[12:03] <Dreamglider> saptech, and that's all there is to it ?
[12:03] <sproingie> Wibble-: but that is the "proper" way
[12:03] <Renan_s2> Duski, I would dare to say that the hard drive is dead.
[12:04] <JohnnyG> void: how do i make synapse search on those modules?
[12:04] <longwave> nuaimat: it looks like the program you are trying to run uses something that is not properly supported yet in wine
[12:04] <ccooke> Duski: it's dead. Get a new one.
[12:04] <Renan_s2> Send it to a professional recovery service if you need to recover data, but it will be expensive.
[12:04] <longwave> nuaimat: i think that is what it usually means when you see a "fixme" error in there
[12:04] <saptech> Dreamg: basically yes
[12:04] <Duski> I'm just trying to get the 3MB of work,,, (as these are 4 days of my work... :( )
[12:04] <Dreamglider> saptech, ok thansk mate
[12:04] <Gog123> how do i upgrade from ubuntu 6.06 to 6.06-1?
[12:04] <alex-weej> !?
[12:04] <saptech> you're welcome
[12:04] <longwave> Duski: try running dd with the noerror option
[12:05] <void^> !info linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-k7
[12:05] <ubotu> Package linux-restricted-modules-2615-26-k7 does not exist in dapper
[12:05] <Tamale> i have no sound with the flashplugin when watching youtube, but xmms works fine.  sound in flash file doesn't work even if i don't have anything else open.. any ideas?
[12:05] <Gog123> how do i upgrade from ubuntu 6.06 to 6.06-1?
[12:05] <longwave> Duski: be prepared for it to take a very long time though, skipping just one error sector takes a good few seconds
[12:05] <nuaimat> Tamale: i think its a problem of FireFox , i've seen a fix for this problem once , i dunno where
[12:05] <nuaimat> google for it
[12:06] <sproingie> Gog123: i've heard of no such thing.  apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:06] <Tamale> nuaimat: it doesn't work in opera either
[12:06] <KrisWood> After upgrading to dapper my proftpd stopped working, can anyone help me figure out how to fix it? :-/
[12:06] <longwave> Gog123: if you have installed the updates that gnome notifies you about, then you are already up to date
[12:06] <TheGateKeeper> Tamale: installed any codecs?
[12:06] <Dreamglider> hey!
[12:06] <Tamale> TheGateKeeper: nothing abnormal i don't think so
[12:07] <TheGateKeeper> Tamale: you don't have w32codecs installed?
[12:07] <Tamale> TheGateKeeper: is that the package name?
[12:07] <Wibble-> sproingie: Thanks for the advice - I had a look at that, and update-alternatives which it referenced, but neither of them list gcc / g++ as programs which have available alternatives... Do I need to do something else first?
[12:07] <JohnnyG> void: does that "does not exist" message mean I am out of luck?
[12:07] <Dreamglider> how do i access a FAT32 partion
[12:07] <sproingie> Wibble-: galternatives lets you create alternatives in a really obvious way
[12:08] <Dreamglider> cant remember
[12:08] <sproingie> Wibble-: like i said, i just create symlinks -- it's not like there's anything that's gcc compatible that isn't itself gcc
[12:08] <bimbam> !info dig
[12:08] <ubotu> Package dig does not exist in dapper
[12:08] <nuaimat> Dreamglider: mount it with ->   mount -t vfat -o rw /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[12:08] <bimbam> !info help
[12:08] <ubotu> Package help does not exist in dapper
[12:08] <TheGateKeeper> Tamale: what I am suggesting is that may be you have to have the correct codecs installed for whatever you are trying to listen to
[12:08] <nuaimat> change hda1 as your device is
[12:09] <Wibble-> sproingie: ok - thanks for your help - I'll do symlinks.  I can only see ways to add options to an existing alternative in galternatives - not adding a completely new type of alternative.
[12:09] <Tamale> TheGateKeeper: Well, I didn't have w32codecs, just got 'em.  i'll try this youtube vid again
[12:09] <longwave> bimbam: what package are you looking for?
[12:09] <sproingie> Wibble-: and gcc and g++ show up in galternatives, though it just points to itself.  otherwise, go the symlink route
[12:09] <void^> JohnnyG: no, it just means ubotu isn't as omniscient as we expected it to be. activate multiverse repos, search for linux-restricted-modules and install the package that fits your kernel.
[12:09] <birdmun> i tried youtube a day or so back and got no sound
[12:09] <Duski> ccooke: it's running but till now there was no single record read, ;( will try the 2nd tool & let u know
[12:09] <sproingie> Wibble-: ultimately that's all alternatives are, a centrally managed directory of symlinks
[12:09] <Wibble-> sproingie: then I'm sure I've done something wrong because neither show up there for me *grin*
[12:09] <TheGateKeeper> Tamale: give me a url
[12:10] <corevette> ok who was helping me before?
[12:10] <Tamale> TheGateKeeper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKX0RN19zc0
[12:10] <quux> On a thinkpad T21. e100: 0000.00.03.0: e100_eeprom_load: EEPROM corrupted
[12:10] <Tamale> no audio still
[12:10] <quux> thoughts?
[12:10] <bimbam> longwave I was looking for dig (a ns query utility) and apparently !info can be used in stead of apt-cache search.. or so i thought :-)
[12:10] <longwave> bimbam: dig is in dnsutils
[12:10] <bimbam> longwave, ah
[12:10] <KurtKraut> hello there
[12:10] <corevette> bimbam, where you helping me with my network problem?
[12:11] <sproingie> Wibble-: one place i worked made gcc and g++ into shell wrappers that respected the CC and CXX variables
[12:11] <sproingie> Wibble-: and if it was set to just 'gcc', it would basically guess
[12:11] <carpediem> birdmun: try this, it worked for me.  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/29760/comments/12
[12:11] <TheGateKeeper> Tamale: no problem for me, I use xine engine, libxine-extracodecs & w32codecs
[12:11] <Krafturinn> I am running system tests in cedega .... 4 out of 5 fail
[12:12] <bimbam> corevette, well I offered help, not that im sure i can help..
[12:12] <Krafturinn> how can I fix this
[12:12] <birdmun> i have sound on this youtube file
[12:12] <Wibble-> sproingie: I don't really plan to install many other versions (although I may have to upgrade to 4.x at some point) I'll put up with symlinks for now - thanks.
[12:12] <Krafturinn> !cedega
[12:12] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[12:12] <Crazed> hi ..
[12:12] <corevette> who wanted what my ifconfig file said?
[12:12] <KrisWood> anyone here using proftpd on dapper?
[12:12] <mangobot> hey, i have a problem: i'm trying to use the dell truemobile 1150 minipci card in dapper. It identifies under cardctl identify, but won't give any network connections or anything
[12:12] <tbl> has anyone gotten a Dell 1450 Dual-Band Wireless USB adapter to work with ndiswrapper?
[12:12] <bimbam> corevette, wireless is not something i know much about, but as someone else said, start out by pasting an ifconfig output to paste.ubuntu-nl.org..
[12:13] <mangobot> anyone know what's going on with that?
[12:13] <zovirl> is there a way to boot from an ISO file of a live CD?  without burning it to a CDR?
[12:13] <Tamale> TheGateKeeper: $ sudo update-flashplugin
[12:13] <Tamale> installation failed
[12:14] <taz7676> HELP!! I just started using Ubuntu and I can't seem to play mp3's or video files on Totem.  Where can I get plugins please?
[12:14] <blocky> can someone give me a hand getting my sn9c102 webcam working with video4linux
[12:14] <blocky> dmesg says [5242494.708000]  usb 1-1: V4L2 device registered as /dev/video0
[12:14] <taz7676> I have searched the Ubuntu and Totem pages without success.
[12:14] <Tamale> taz:  Read the restricted formats page on the ubuntu wiki
[12:14] <blocky> but when i run any cam apps it says couldnt connect to device
[12:15] <Tamale> taz:  In short, xmms is a great program for playing mp3s
[12:15] <saptech> anybody know how to upgrade firefox 1.5.0.5 1.5.0.6?
[12:15] <taz7676> ok
[12:15] <Renan_s2> I like amaroK for playing MP3.
[12:15] <Tamale> saptech:  It should do it automically
[12:15] <JohnUK89> saptech: doesn't it auto-update?
[12:15] <TheGateKeeper> Tamale: called flashplugin-nonfree but why are you doing that?
[12:15] <crimsun> saptech: 1.5.0.6 is not needed on UNIX-based system.s
[12:15] <saptech> no
[12:15] <birdmun> i was reading on the forums about upgrading firefox and the patch seems to be geared towards windows
[12:15] <corevette> bimbam heres the ifconfig file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20409
[12:15] <Subhuman> zovirl, yeah use a virtual machine
[12:15] <Tamale> TheGateKeeper: I'm just tryin to get the audio to work
[12:15] <Subhuman> !vm
[12:15] <saptech> mine is 1.5.0.5
[12:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <Subhuman> 1vmware
[12:16] <Subhuman> !vmware
[12:16] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[12:16] <zovirl> subhuman thanks
[12:16] <saptech> crimsun: it's for windows only?
[12:16] <TheGateKeeper> Tamale: if you have flash already installed you don't need to do anything more with that
[12:16] <longwave> saptech: http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/releases/1.5.0.6.html
[12:16] <longwave> it only fixes a bug in windows media, which does not apply to linux
[12:17] <saptech> ok, thnx
[12:17] <Tamale> TheGateKeeper: Well, what might be wrong with the audio?  it works on some sites
[12:17] <saptech> i guess thats y i couldn't find it
[12:17] <birdmun> aye
[12:17] <Crazed> how can I find a IRCop here ?
[12:17] <birdmun> anyone have any good ideas on finding help with a PIC programmer?
[12:18] <TheGateKeeper> Tamale: don't have the correct codecs installed is the most likely cause I would say, but might be wrong
[12:18] <Tamale> TheGateKeeper: How can i tell what codecs I have installed, and what this flash file is trying to use?
[12:18] <saptech> firefox website say it is a gtk version
[12:19] <liran_> hehey cesman
[12:19] <mangobot> HELP, i have a problem: i'm trying to use the dell truemobile 1150 minipci card in dapper. It identifies under cardctl identify, but won't give any network connections or anything
[12:19] <longwave> Crazed: try asking in #freenode
[12:19] <TheGateKeeper> Tamale: not sure with adept but with synaptic search codecs and it will show you which ones you have installed
[12:20] <TheGateKeeper> Tamale: I don't know what it is using, only that it works for me with the combination I gave you
[12:21] <bimbam> corevette, it looks like at least the card gets detected as ath0
[12:21] <corevette> bimbam both my eth0 and ath0 get detected
[12:21] <saptech> Tamale: have you looked at the ubuntu unofficial guide
[12:21] <bimbam> corevette, are you using ipv6 for the card?
[12:22] <corevette> bimbam it works on another computer
[12:22] <corevette> bimbam the same wireless card
[12:22] <mangobot> eh...
[12:22] <saptech> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[12:22] <bimbam> corevette, are you using ipv6?
[12:22] <pyret> hur gr jag fr att ppna ett gammalt dos spel?
[12:22] <corevette> bimbam what do you mean?
[12:22] <corevette> bimbam what is ipv6
[12:22] <pyret> opps sry
[12:23] <Crazed> gaap
[12:23] <Tamale> saptech:  Ya.  Most flash videos work fine, just not this one
[12:23] <Crazed> daar moet je registered zijn om te praten ..
[12:23] <saptech> ok
[12:23] <Crazed> you have to be registered to talk there
[12:23] <Crazed> sry for dutch ..
[12:23] <Tamale> how do i search my INSTALLED packages only?
[12:23] <Crazed> anyway ..
[12:23] <bimbam> corevette, if you dont know what it is youre probably not using it
[12:23] <Crazed> cant  talk in #freenode-social
[12:23] <corevette> bimbam should i use it?
[12:24] <bimbam> corevette, try pasting your /etc/network/interfaces file same place
[12:24] <Crazed> longwave,
[12:24] <bimbam> corevette, i dont think so
[12:24] <saptech> Tamala: sudo apt-cache search filename
[12:24] <askjf> How do i set up Gaim Beta3?
[12:24] <Tamale> saptech:  That searches all packages
[12:24] <longwave> crazed, do /who freenode/staff/* and try /msging one of those people?
[12:24] <balsat>  gnome media is in not any software channel availeble
[12:24] <saptech> Tamale: rite, sry
[12:24] <balsat> what means that
[12:25] <corevette> bimbam i'm on windows right now...and i have to switch the computer to linux and burn a cd of whatever your talking about
[12:25] <Tamale> how do i search my INSTALLED packages only?
[12:25] <looktj> hi
[12:25] <saptech> do an updatedb & and then whereis filename
[12:25] <yuyoman> hi im yuyoman
[12:25] <looktj> i need help
[12:25] <Tamale> enhh
[12:25] <Tamale> that searches all files
[12:25] <Tamale> i just want to see packages
[12:25] <bimbam> corevette, cant you connect it using eth0 and a regular ethernet cable?
[12:25] <saptech> whereis filename
[12:26] <bimbam> corevette, that would make everything easier
[12:26] <saptech> or locate filename
[12:26] <corevette> bimbam thats the problem
[12:26] <longwave> Tamale: "dpkg -l" shows you installed packages
[12:26] <looktj> my laptop's fan isnt turning on
[12:26] <Tamale> longwave:  Thanks!
[12:26] <corevette> bimbam they're connected........but i can't get internet from them
[12:26] <saptech> lol
[12:26] <saptech> i misunderstood
[12:26] <bimbam> corevette, so the normal connection arent working either?
[12:26] <Tamale> hehe no worries
[12:26] <corevette> bimbam nope
[12:26] <saptech> take care everybody gotta goto work
[12:27] <askjf> Do i need to install drivers for an WIFI card before i insert it into the computer?
[12:27] <corevette> bimbam any ideas?
[12:27] <blocky> anybody here ever used the SN9C102/3 webcam driver?
[12:27] <Munchkinguy> I know that some Sempron processors support 64-bit. Should I install Ubuntu 64 for PCs using "Sempron 64"?
[12:27] <longwave> askjf: no, not on linux
[12:27] <lecaros> !ping
[12:27] <ubotu> pong
[12:28] <longwave> askjf: you may need extra drivers or configuration afterwards, but it wont do any harm putting it in now
[12:28] <askjf> longwave if i put it in it doesnt let linux boot though
[12:28] <quux> On a thinkpad T21, booting from the Dapper ISO. "e100: 0000.00.03.0: e100_eeprom_load: EEPROM corrupted"
[12:28] <bimbam> corevette, i think you better ask someone who knows a bit more about ubuntu than i do.. i know regular stuff but obviously something has gone wrong configuring the netork
[12:28] <quux> Anyt thoughts?
[12:28] <longwave> askjf: what happens when you boot?
[12:28] <tbl> quux, yeah, that's weird :(
[12:28] <tbl> quux: isn't EEPROM a chip inside of the laptop?
[12:28] <askjf> It gets stuck on a screen with a blinking cursor in the top left corner
[12:29] <bimbam> corevette, did you set up your windows box yourself?
[12:29] <corevette> bimbam windows box?
[12:29] <quux> tbl: assumption is, something to do with the onboard nic
[12:29] <bimbam> corevette, windows machine
[12:29] <bimbam> corevette, windows installation :-)
[12:29] <Crazed> RichiH, ?
[12:29] <longwave> askjf: are you sure the card works? does linux start loading and then stop, or does it do that as soon as you switch on?
[12:29] <tbl> quux: at what point do you get that message? before any of the ubuntu stuff initializes, or during the loading?
[12:29] <corevette> bimbam yes
[12:30] <longwave> quux: http://linux-diag.sourceforge.net/first_failure/e100_Action_Events.html
[12:30] <looktj> it says my laptop temp is 48 C
[12:30] <looktj> come on none help?
[12:30] <looktj> please
[12:30] <bimbam> corevette, ok, so do you know if you have something that configures your network using DHCP?
[12:30] <looktj> grrr
[12:30] <tbl> looktj: icebath
[12:30] <longwave> quux: that says "eeprom corrupted" means you have to replace the adapter :(
[12:30] <corevette> bimbam no
[12:30] <askjf> Ubuntu loads then after all the stuff on the little ok list where it has the bar under the logo it goes to that screeen and that card does work it worked when the machine was windows...
[12:30] <quux> tbl, during loading
[12:31] <corevette> bimbam but it makes no sense...because i put the exact same wireless card on teh same version of ubuntu on a different computer..and it works
[12:31] <askjf> i never see my ubuntu desktop
[12:31] <Munchkinguy> So, to say it succinctly: Do PCs with Sempron-64 need Ubuntu 64-bit?
[12:31] <ivorybishop> hi all
[12:31] <looktj> my laptop's fan isnt turning on
[12:31] <quux> longwave: while I hate the advice it gave, I love the resource itself - thanks!
[12:31] <omnid> Hiya
[12:31] <JohnUK89> Munchkinguy: no, they run both i386 and x86_64
[12:32] <bluefox83> hey, i have a nvidia video card..how do i install the nvidia driver?
[12:32] <longwave> !nvidia
[12:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:32] <ivorybishop> anyone ever have this issue, i downloaded the iso for dapper, booted from it on an old laptop, i ran the install on the desktop, at step 3 (keyboard layout) i hit enter and it just sits there forever...
[12:32] <ivorybishop> never gets further
[12:32] <Munchkinguy> JohnUK89: Thank you.
[12:32] <looktj> !ati 9000
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati 9000 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <askjf> longwave, IT loads then goes to that screen
[12:32] <looktj> !ati
[12:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:32] <bimbam> corevette, well on the machine that works did you change any settings to make it work?
[12:33] <corevette> bimbam no it worked when i put it in
[12:33] <longwave> askjf: how long did you wait at that screen? sometimes it can take a few minutes for dhcp to timeout if there is a problem with that
[12:33] <looktj> !fans
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fans - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <longwave> askjf: otherwise, i am out of ideas, sorry :(
[12:33] <bimbam> corevette, hmm dont you have to select an access point and so on?
[12:34] <corevette> bimbam no it picked up the first one
[12:34] <askjf> I switched back to my machine i am on now and left it on all night and it didnt work still
[12:34] <corevette> bimbam the only access point and connected
[12:34] <corevette> bimbam the computer i'm on now doesn't connect
[12:34] <longwave> corevette: so in system > administration > networking the interface is active and the correct ESSID is shown in the properties window?
[12:34] <corevette> longwave yes
[12:34] <corevette> longwave ESSID?
[12:35] <bimbam> corevette, how about eth0?
[12:35] <longwave> corevette: network name
[12:35] <corevette> bimbam same deal.....it won't connect to internet
[12:35] <Rea> totally confused, need help: I installed Ubuntu from the Alternate CD because of older PC. But it installed only the basic system with minimal function. How do I install other packages like XWin, etc...  That computer is not connected to the internet.
[12:35] <corevette> longwave it doesn't show the network name
[12:35] <askjf> longwave would it be easier to get a USB WIFI device and use it>?
[12:35] <ivorybishop> is there an install that could be run some other way from the cd?
[12:36] <longwave> !wireless
[12:36] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:36] <longwave> askjf: try looking at those docs and see if your card is in there anywhere
[12:36] <askjf> i did and it isnt...
[12:36] <askjf> lol i did last night
[12:36] <ivorybishop> is there anyone here who is not busy and could give me a moment of their time perhaps?
[12:37] <ivorybishop> or is there a way to queue one's question?
[12:37] <longwave> !ask
[12:37] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:37] <farous> ivorybishop: just ask your question
[12:37] <ivorybishop> i already did
[12:37] <ivorybishop> on one answered
[12:37] <longwave> !patience
[12:37] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:37] <longwave> then ;)
[12:38] <ivorybishop> am i being impatient? or just bewildered? this is not the most intuitive process, so longwaves implication that it may be !patience is a little daft
[12:38] <farous> ivorybishop: wait for sometime and ask your question again
[12:38] <corevette> longwave so how do i get my wireless or ethernet to detect the internet
[12:38] <corevette> bimbam give up?
[12:38] <bimbam> ivorybishop, i tried something similar... the disk was faulty, a new burn helped, maybe thats it?
[12:38] <ivorybishop> thank you farous
[12:38] <longwave> corevette: did you paste the ifconfig output in a pastebin? if so i missed it, link it again
[12:38] <ivorybishop> i was merely asking the for a protocol of some sort
[12:38] <farous> ivorybishop: bare in mind that perhaps no one who so your post know the ans
[12:39] <corevette> longwave here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20409
[12:39] <askjf> Will Logmein work on Ubuntu>
[12:39] <askjf> or am i stuck with VNC?
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> askjf,  never heard of it.
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> I use vnc all the time.
[12:39] <TheGateKeeper> ivorybishop: protocol is gentel persistence :-)
[12:39] <askjf> ok
[12:40] <ivorybishop> thanks mate
[12:40] <longwave> corevette: is it eth0 or ath0 you want working? where did that ip address come from on eth0?
[12:40] <farous> ivorybishop: are you using the live or alternate cd
[12:40] <ivorybishop> logmein will work in the broswer
[12:40] <TheGateKeeper> ivorybishop: did you choose the self-test in the boot options on the CD
[12:40] <ivorybishop> but i do not think they have a client side app for it
[12:40] <corevette> longwave i want either working
[12:40] <Stormx2> Hmm
[12:40] <Stormx2> Upload a PHP
[12:40] <ivorybishop> to control a linux machine remotely
[12:40] <Stormx2> Damnit wrong channel...
[12:40] <longwave> corevette: wired is easier to make work than wireless, so lets try that first
[12:41] <ivorybishop> i did not try that, i am something of a linux noob
[12:41] <longwave> corevette: what is eth0 plugged into?
[12:41] <corevette> longwave
[12:41] <corevette> longwave ok
[12:41] <ivorybishop> i wil try that at once, thanks
[12:41] <corevette> longwave plugged via usb from computer to wall phone jack
[12:41] <azureal> hi.   I've never used cdrecord before, but I want to... and I have a few questions-- what is the "speed" option?  i.e. what's the equivalent of speed=2  in the form of <blank>x
[12:41] <ivorybishop> hoary hedgehog is already isntalled on the system btw
[12:41] <Eclypse> I need some help with XGL
[12:41] <sizzam> how do i get thunderbird to play some sort of sound when i get new mail?
[12:41] <nuaimat> hi guys , i need to run wine , do i have to get TLS back into glibc?
[12:41] <askjf> !VNC
[12:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about VNC - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <askjf> !vnc
[12:41] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[12:42] <Eclypse> Can anyone here help me with XGL/Compiz on Ubuntu Dapper with an ATI Mobility Radeon card?
[12:42] <longwave> corevette: hrm usb networking i do not know much about
[12:42] <farous> ivorybishop: can you restate your question again. be as detailed as you can
[12:42] <corevette> longwave ok lets try wireless
[12:42] <longwave> corevette: did you type that ip address in somewhere or has that been automatically configured?
[12:42] <JohnUK89> !xgl
[12:42] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:42] <nuaimat> hi guys , i need to run wine , do i have to get TLS back into glibc?
[12:42] <corevette> longwave it doesnt make sense because i put the same wireless card in a different ubuntu computer same version and it worked
[12:42] <bimbam> corevette, he im lost with usb networking and wireless, so im useless :-/
[12:42] <Eclypse> JohnUK89 I want real help.
[12:42] <corevette> longwave i gues it was automaticaly configured
[12:43] <farous> Eclypse: #ubuntu-xgl room
[12:43] <longwave> corevette: are you sure you didn't have to install any other software or drivers on the other computer?
[12:43] <farous> if you read ubotu post
[12:43] <ivorybishop> sizzam: its under Tools>Options>General tab
[12:43] <corevette> longwave i am completely sure
[12:43] <corevette> longwave unless i have to install it on windows
[12:43] <sizzam> ivorybishop: thanx
[12:43] <ivorybishop> anyone ever have this issue, i downloaded the iso for dapper, booted from it on an old laptop, i ran the install on the desktop, at step 3 (keyboard layout) i hit enter and it just sits there forever...
[12:43] <longwave> corevette: no, you shouldnt need to use windows
[12:44] <ivorybishop> is there an install that could be run some other way from the cd?
[12:44] <gallag> my printer will not print. zilch. It queues, nothing happens. Yesterday, I did, nothing changed. What should I do?
[12:44] <ivorybishop> i am running the cd check now
[12:44] <longwave> corevette: if you type "sudo iwlist ath0 scan" does it show your wireless network name?
[12:44] <corevette> longwave ok....so i don't really see why it's not working
[12:44] <ivorybishop> its an old laptop so it will be a few mins i am sure
[12:44] <Rea> confused: I installed Ubuntu from the Alternate CD because of older PC. But it installed only the basic system with minimal function. How do I install other packages like XWin,mc, etc...but without installing one by one by hand. That computer is not connected to the internet.
[12:44] <stinerman> hello everyone, i'm having trouble with X11 forwarding ...
[12:44] <farous> ivorybishop: which cd you downloaded the live or alternate cd. you mentioned the old laptop have hoary if that is true there is an easier way
[12:44] <corevette> longwave i can't do the command right now...because i dual booted the computer and i'm on that computer right now
[12:45] <corevette> longwave i'm on windows right now same computer
[12:45] <longwave> corevette: ah i see, this is going to be hard to diagnose that way i am afraid :(
[12:45] <corevette> longwave but i don't think it has detected it
[12:45] <bimbam> ivorybishop my experience with halting installs was not from ubuntu, but old cd-roms can act up sometimes, especially with slightly scratched disks
[12:45] <ivorybishop> i just downloaded the ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[12:45] <Crazed> ivorybishop, burn it on a disc ..
[12:45] <longwave> corevette: i am not sure how we can do this if you can't chat and type at the ubuntu terminal at the same time :(
[12:45] <Crazed> and boot it
[12:45] <ivorybishop> my issue with hoary is that the laptop only has a wireless nic, no hardwire nic connection
[12:45] <Crazed> its a live disk
[12:45] <Crazed> then install :P
[12:45] <corevette> longwave it's really suspicious because neither connection works
[12:46] <ivorybishop> and hoary will not connect to my wpa wireless lan
[12:46] <omnid> What program should I use to upload via FTP
[12:46] <corevette> longwave and both connections worked on other connection
[12:46] <ivorybishop> i did burn the iso to disk
[12:46] <corevette> longwave *computer
[12:46] <Crazed> dit you configure the mac address acces in your router right ?
[12:46] <farous> ivorybishop: connect the old laptop to the net and run sudo apt-get distupgrade after changing your repos in you sources.list file
[12:46] <omnid> or would be recommended
[12:46] <farous> !upgrade > ivorybishop
[12:46] <ivorybishop> yes
[12:46] <ivorybishop> lol
[12:46] <farous> ivorybishop: look at ubotu link
[12:46] <bluefox83> sudo: Timestamp too far in the future: Aug 13 08:14:08 2006   <--what is wrong there and how do i fix it?
[12:46] <omnid> !ftp > omnid
[12:47] <longwave> corevette: does the computer and modem have an ethernet port? that is usually much easier to make work than usb networking or wifi..
[12:47] <longwave> corevette: otherwise i am out of ideas for now :(
[12:47] <bluefox83> besides the fact that it's really 6:47
[12:47] <corevette> longwave yes my computer does......but the wall doesn't to my computer
[12:47] <ivorybishop> farous: what for? am i not being polite here?
[12:47] <TheGateKeeper> ivorybishop: several possibilities, cdrom not too good, iso corrupted while being downloaded, iso corrupted when being burnt, bad cd media
[12:47] <ivorybishop> i am running cd check now
[12:47] <ivorybishop> from ubuntu boot menu
[12:47] <farous> ivorybishop: what do looking to ubotu link have to do with politness
[12:48] <ivorybishop> its just finished and says 0 checksums failed
[12:48] <mangobot> HELP, i have a problem: i'm trying to use the dell truemobile 1150 minipci card in dapper. It identifies under cardctl identify, but won't give any network connections or anything
[12:48] <Crazed> damn
[12:48] <farous> ivorybishop: this is a link to a webpage with information
[12:48] <ivorybishop> umm the only ubotu link was to a page bout being patient and polite
[12:48] <ivorybishop> unless i missed something?
[12:48] <farous> ivorybishop: you did not get a pm from ubotu
[12:48] <TheGateKeeper> ivorybishop: how much RAM have you got?
[12:48] <farous> ivorybishop: okk here it is again
[12:48] <farous> !upgrade
[12:48] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[12:48] <longwave> ivorybishop: how much ram does this laptop have?
[12:48] <farous> ^  ^
[12:49] <longwave> ivorybishop: the installer may hang with less than 192mb..
[12:49] <ivorybishop> ahh
[12:49] <askjf> How do i get Terminal up?
[12:49] <ivorybishop> ok, but i have no hardwire nic
[12:49] <ivorybishop> this machine has 128mb ram
[12:49] <threeseas> question: in ubuntu thru firefox I click on a "mailto:" link and get some dialog box for "compose message" but send does nothing but close the dialog box... what program is that "compose message" dialog box ?
[12:49] <longwave> ivorybishop: download the alternate install cd, i believe that will run in 128mb
[12:49] <corevette> longwave giving up?
[12:49] <ivorybishop> cool, thanks
[12:49] <farous> ivorybishop: when you burn the cd espec with faulty hardware do it on a really slow speed
[12:49] <askjf> !terminal
[12:49] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[12:49] <Xodarap> HELP: i'm trying to get a linksys wusb 802.11g to work, could anyone point me to a driver? (or something?)
[12:50] <longwave> corevette: i am afraid so, i dont know much about usb and i am stumped as to why the wifi works on one machine but not the other, and without you being able to type commands i cant help further
[12:50] <bluefox83> how do i fix a bad timestamp ?
[12:50] <TheGateKeeper> ivorybishop: I just tried the livecd on my test box and it crahsed, but the alternative cd using the text installer had no problem
[12:50] <ivorybishop> the machine i burned on is a 3.oghz 2gb ram machine, i burn cd's all the time, i have burned two since that one that are working great
[12:50] <ppd> hello! I'm looking for epiphany builds against swiftfox. has anyone compiled such a package yet?
[12:50] <bimbam> longwave, corevette when you cant get us simple troubleshooting output its a bit hard to help you im afraid :-(
[12:50] <ivorybishop> i will try that gatekeeper, thanks
[12:51] <TheGateKeeper> ivorybishop: it's only a P3 with 128Mb RAM so the livecd struggles :-)
[12:51] <ivorybishop> afk to download, burn, and test
[12:51] <ivorybishop> ahh
[12:51] <ivorybishop> that makes sense
[12:51] <bluefox83> sudo is b0rked! how do i fix it!!!
[12:51] <ivorybishop> running the mem check now to be sure i dont have a bad ram module or something too
[12:51] <ivorybishop> thanks to all here for the assistance, volunteers rock
[12:52] <TheGateKeeper> ivorybishop: download the alternative cd and use that, much more likely to be successfull
[12:52] <ivorybishop> 10-4
[12:52] <threeseas> what is the "compose message" dialog box from? it has no about menu selection and nothing to tell what it is?
[12:53] <Rea> confused: I installed Ubuntu from the Alternate CD because of older PC. But it installed only the basic system with minimal function. How do I install other packages like XWin,mc, etc...but without installing one by one by hand. That computer is not connected to the internet
[12:53] <Greatn> how do i shutdown a server i have running (ss5 server)
[12:53] <longwave> bluefox83: try "sudo -k" then your sudo command again
[12:53] <rubuntus> how may i make my Alt Gr and Delete-buttons work properly in Fluxbox?
[12:53] <farous> Greatn: can you ssh to it
[12:53] <bluefox83> longwave, same error
[12:53] <ivorybishop> will the alternative installation allow the use of wireless nics and such?
[12:53] <Greatn> farous - i'm not sure what you mean, its a socks server i have running
[12:54] <farous> Greatn: never mind i misundrstood your quest
[12:54] <Greatn> farous - rather than going into the system monitor and ending the process is there a better way to end it?
[12:54] <M06w> i need some help gaining access to my windows drives
[12:54] <jordanau> M06w, NTFS?
[12:54] <M06w> ya
[12:54] <jordanau> !NTFS
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about NTFS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <jordanau> !ntfs
[12:55] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[12:55] <longwave> bluefox83: change the time and date on your computer so it is just after the date sudo complains about, then "sudo -k", then change it back to the correct date, then run sudo as normal
[12:55] <looktj> how do i get my fan working?
[12:55] <longwave> in fact use "sudo -K" with a capital K
[12:55] <looktj> i'm on a dell 600m
[12:56] <looktj> !fan
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <longwave> Greatn: if there is a script for it in /etc/init.d, you may be able to "sudo /etc/init.d/ss5 stop" or something similar
[12:57] <M06w> ok, so what do i do with the driver thing
[12:57] <jordanau> looktj, there might be a setting in your bios that throttles your fan, I disabled mine along time ago.
[12:57] <looktj> !ati fix
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <farous> looktj: try /msg ubotu
[12:57] <jordanau> looktj, qspeed or something on my asus
[12:57] <mangobot> umm... how do i get a wireless card working if it appears in cardctl identity but doesn't give any network properties?
[12:57] <stinerman> hello everyone, i'm having trouble with X11 forwarding from my debian box to my ubuntu box here
[12:57] <Rea> so no idea how to solve my problem... the pinguin is killin' me  :|
[12:58] <PyroManiak> What is the command line command to remove a folder?
[12:58] <Megaqwerty> sudo rm -r filename
[12:58] <looktj> k how do i disable through the bios on my dell?
[12:58] <PyroManiak> Megaqwerty: thank you
[12:58] <Megaqwerty> you're welcome
[12:59] <bimbam> Rea, what problem?
[12:59] <inc|freaky> does anyone know how to get cpu frequency scaling to work on an intel centrino with 2ghz whick keeps running at 800mhz because frequency scaling doesnt work?
[12:59] <Rea> I installed Ubuntu from the Alternate CD because of older PC. But it installed only the basic system with minimal function. How do I install other packages like XWin,mc, etc...but without installing one by one by hand. That computer is not connected to the internet
[12:59] <jordanau> Rea, packages.ubutnu.org ?
[12:59] <bimbam> fd
[12:59] <jordanau> Rea, packages.ubuntu.org ?
[12:59] <Megaqwerty> "No Internet"
[12:59] <mangobot> anyone know my problem?
[12:59] <looktj> brb going into bios
[12:59] <Rea> jordanau: so thay are not on the CD?   why is the CD than 700 MB...
[12:59] <bluefox83> why the hell doesn't cut and paste work in gnome-terminal?
[01:00] <bimbam> Rea, a very unqualified guess: could it be that you have installed from the server version of the cd?
[01:00] <Megaqwerty> what is your question mangobot?
[01:00] <jordanau> Rea, because there is a lot more than 700 MB worth of ubuntu debs
[01:00] <longwave> bluefox83: there is no "cut" but copy and paste works
[01:00] <mangobot> well, i have a dell minipci truemobile 1150 card that's recognized in cardctl identity
[01:00] <mangobot> but it won't give any network properties
[01:00] <mangobot> etc
[01:01] <Rea> bimbam: no ALT CD Text mode.
[01:01] <Krafturinn> I managed to install cedega and then football manager 2006 game but when the game is playing its like 1-3 fps how can I make this faster ?
[01:01] <bluefox83> longwave, paste is always grayed out though :(
[01:01] <jordanau> mangobot, in terminal lspci
[01:01] <bimbam> !info desktop
[01:01] <ubotu> Package desktop does not exist in dapper
[01:01] <mangobot> jordanau: i don't see it.
[01:01] <Rea> btw: its http://packages.ubuntu.com/  ;)
[01:01] <jordanau> pastebin what you see
[01:01] <mangobot> it's a minipci. does that make a difference?
[01:01] <bimbam> !desktop
[01:01] <ubotu> The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are Gnome (ubuntu-desktop), KDE (kubuntu-desktop), XCFE (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.
[01:01] <Megaqwerty> like to access wifi?
[01:02] <petr> bluefox83: the ctrl+c and ctrl+v do not work. you have to use the mouse
[01:02] <jordanau> Rea, thank you for the correction, does it help you?
[01:02] <mangobot> mega: yeah. it doesn't show up in lspci, and it doesn't take a name for wifi
[01:02] <bluefox83> petr, i was using the mouse..be right back
[01:02] <Megaqwerty> get NetworkManager Applet 0.6.2
[01:03] <mangobot> k
[01:03] <jordanau> mangobot, what is your chipset for your wireless card?
[01:03] <naya> hello everyone. my name is naya
[01:03] <Megaqwerty> it can connect to WPA, if that is your problem
[01:03] <mangobot> it's a lucent chip, i think. it's supposed to be supported...
[01:03] <naya> I wanted to introduce myself
[01:03] <mangobot> no, my problem is that the card isn't even recognized as a network device
[01:03] <Rea> jordanau: dont know will see. But still dont understand that on the CD are only main system core files, and that i have to install other default things by hand...
[01:03] <mangobot> it's just seen as residing in slot 2
[01:03] <petr> naya: hi
[01:04] <naya> petr: hello back
[01:04] <Megaqwerty> I don't know if it will help but...
[01:04] <Megaqwerty> !wifi
[01:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:04] <PyroManiak> How do I format another hard drive in the system for fat32? (I want a shared drive between Linux and WinXP)
[01:04] <jordanau> Rea, that way you don't have to download 5 isos to install ubuntu
[01:04] <MaxwellSM> Hi, I have a suggestion, who should I talk to?
[01:04] <mangobot> thanks...do you think my card's just messed up?
[01:04] <Rea> jordanau: maybe you're right.
[01:04] <threeseas> what program does firefox call when I hit a "mailto:" link? anyone know?
[01:05] <jordanau> mangobot, if you will pastebin the results of lspci i MAY be able to help
[01:05] <jordanau> threeseas, evolution by default right?
[01:05] <naya> PyroManiak: for me, the easy way is parted, which also comes as kparted for KDE and gparted for GNOME
[01:05] <mangobot> ok
[01:05] <Megaqwerty> !dualboot
[01:05] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[01:05] <tbl> I'm going crazy :(
[01:06] <mangobot> ummm...pastebin?
[01:06] <PyroManiak> naya: Do I need to grab that package? or is it default?
[01:06] <mangobot> hehe...sorry...bit of a noob to this
[01:06] <jordanau> mangobot, i'll give you a link
[01:06] <cygnus_> hi, waht is the command to graphically (from the shell) set the apt sources
[01:06] <mangobot> k
[01:06] <Blissex> PyroManiak: you can use 'ext3' to share MS Windows/Linux, and it is a lot better than FAT32. http://FS-driver.org/
[01:06] <naya> mangobot: pastebin.com
[01:06] <blocky> anybody have any experience changing palettes on a video4linux usb cam
[01:06] <tbl> I finally got ndisgtk running, and it says that my wifi card drive is installed and the hardware is present -- where do I go to see the available networks to connect to?
[01:06] <mangobot> k
[01:06] <jordanau> mangobot,  http://rafb.net/paste/
[01:06] <threeseas> jondanau: I don't know.... but maybe evolution needs to yet evolve to know its own name
[01:07] <naya> mangobot: pastebin allows you to post large text (like log file output) without flooding over here
[01:07] <jordanau> threeseas, system > preferences > preferred applications
[01:07] <Rea> jordanau: but they said on website that with Ubuntu I get Gnome... but i got only console with minimal stuff..  even no "mc"... thats why i got confused.
[01:07] <jordanau> Rea, that sounds like server version, you need to get the standard dapper 6.06 LTS version
[01:07] <MaxwellSM> Hi, I have a suggestion regarding ubuntu, who should I talk to?
[01:07] <jordanau> MaxwellSM, just ask
[01:08] <naya> Blissex: does that thing there support ext3 partitions?
[01:08] <mangobot> jordanau: http://rafb.net/paste/results/bVRzXR33.html
[01:08] <notOnyx> madwifi can't be installed via anything but tar.gz and when I run the commands here http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo I fail when I run
[01:08] <Blissex> naya: yes.
[01:08] <Piolon> somebody that is working with vhcs
[01:08] <Rea> jordanau: no no, no server, Its from the Alternate CD. "Install in text mode"
[01:08] <notOnyx> can someone walk me through installing madwifi? I've been at it 5 hours now with no results and I'm inches from windows...
[01:08] <naya> Blissex: found answer http://fs-driver.org/faq.html#sup_feat
[01:08] <lens> I have been trying to install this package for about a week now... the latest error is when I    /.configure  it says it cant find libmysqlclient.a!    (but it's not in synaptic.
[01:09] <MaxwellSM> I'm looking for a LTSP solution for my school, and I was wondering if it was possible to balance the load between the diskless clients and the servers
[01:09] <threeseas> jordanau: thanks... that allowed me to set it to thunderbird...
[01:10] <Blissex> MaxwellSM: you are asking a bit for too much, but have a look at OpenMOSIX based stuff.
[01:10] <petr> MaxwellSM: there is a openmosix version of ltsp
[01:10] <bluefox83> ok..i hosed my X config..
[01:10] <longwave> MaxwellSM: i suspect you will get better answers to that on the forum or somewhere than in irc
[01:10] <bluefox83> how do i fix it?
[01:10] <Piolon> some administrator of hosting server ???
[01:10] <MaxwellSM> blissex: ok, thanks anyway
[01:11] <looktj> how do i fix my fan? it is not coming on, my laptop is 52 C
[01:11] <MaxwellSM> petr: really? I'll look into it. Unforunatly my skills are very limited
[01:11] <bluefox83> help, i messed up my xorg.conf trying to install teh nvidia drivers!!! how do i fix it?
[01:11] <looktj> which is over 130 F
[01:11] <Down_II> is an ubuntu 6.06.1 dvd out yet
[01:11] <longwave> lens: you need one of the libmysqlclient-dev packages
[01:11] <MaxwellSM> good idea longwave
[01:11] <PyroManiak> gparted supports FAT, but it doesn't specify fat12, fat16, fat32...
[01:11] <PyroManiak> which? all?
[01:11] <Rea> When installing, Does your system gets rebooted too after Base System Installation??  What happens next ??
[01:12] <farous> looktj: how do you know the fan is not working
[01:12] <lens> longwave... sorry I'm kinda new... do I need to go to a website and download it?  and then where would I put it?
[01:12] <longwave> PyroManiak: all variants of FAT are supported as far as i know
[01:12] <looktj> its hot on the lap for me
[01:12] <PyroManiak> longwave: will gparted also format?
[01:12] <longwave> lens: no, in synaptic you should be able to find libmysqlclient15-dev or something like that
[01:13] <naya> PyroManiak: afaik it at least supports fat16 and fat32
[01:13] <farous> looktj: the fan might be working though
[01:13] <farous> looktj: and 52 on laptop is not hot
[01:13] <looktj> also i dont feel air coming out of the air vent
[01:13] <lens> Longwave OHH I see, thanks!
[01:13] <longwave> PyroManiak: yes, i think so
[01:13] <PyroManiak> naya: cool. I'll give it a shot
[01:13] <jordanau> looktj, take it off of your lap to, that will cool it down some
[01:13] <PyroManiak> longwave: thanks
[01:13] <looktj> ok
[01:13] <tbl> why is my wireless card eth2?  shouldn't it be wlan0?
[01:14] <longwave> lens: the -dev bit is important, those are needed when you are compiling things
[01:14] <jordanau> tbl, are you using the broadcom drivers?
[01:14] <longwave> tbl: it depends on the driver, some are wlan0, some are ath0 and some are ethX
[01:14] <looktj> eth0 is boardcom
[01:14] <mangobot> jordanau, you get the link?
[01:14] <farous> looktj: and it is normally set by the trip points and how you set your powernow daemon
[01:14] <lens> longwave... great.
[01:14] <bluefox83> so no one here knows of a configuration script to run in terminal to fix X?
[01:14] <jordanau> mangobot, yeah i can't tell which is your card
[01:14] <tbl> jordanau: I'm using "dellnic.inf" which is on the cd-rom it came with -- is that bad?
[01:14] <mangobot> it's the dell one
[01:14] <farous> looktj: man powernowd to see different settings. the lower the cpu freq the lower your temp will be
[01:14] <tbl> it doesn't appear to be working
[01:14] <mangobot> it shows up in cardctl
[01:14] <tbl> this is so frustrating :-(
[01:15] <naya> PyroManiak: see table here: http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/#TOCfeatures
[01:15] <looktj> what is daemon?
[01:15] <longwave> bluefox83: what is broken with X?
[01:15] <nemlah> Hello all..
[01:15] <Linuturk> I've got a strange problem. When my soundcard is installed, my video resolution jumps to the smallest possible. When the sound card wasn't installed, my video was working fine. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[01:15] <longwave> bluefox83: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" may help
[01:15] <jordanau> mangobot, yeah i mean the chipset
[01:15] <KrisWood> how do I list all packages that are installed?
[01:15] <ripper> anyone have problems getting Azureus warnings to hide, or go away?
[01:15] <nemlah> Which drivers do i need to install for a radeon 9550?
[01:15] <longwave> KrisWood: "dpkg -l"
[01:15] <KrisWood> thanks
[01:15] <edju> Anyone use the "install from windows" method?  Should I use instluxNETUbuntu6_06english.exe?
[01:15] <mangobot> lol, i can't either...hold on.. i'll look it up
[01:15] <Linuturk> ripper, there is an answer to that on the forum
[01:15] <farous> looktj: one step at a time. lets first address your heat prob
[01:15] <farous> looktj: is it an amd processor
[01:15] <jordanau> mangobot, i would ask your question again i cant help you maybe someone else can
[01:15] <cowboy22> bluefox83: sudo dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xorg
[01:16] <ripper> Linuturk, got a link?
[01:16] <Linuturk> ripper,  just do a quick search
[01:16] <NewUbuntuUser> how can i disable the screen saver from the command line?
[01:17] <mangobot> jordanau
[01:17] <mangobot> ok, thanks
[01:17] <jordanau> mangobot, sorry man
[01:17] <mangobot> naah, thanks for helping!
[01:17] <sizzam> anyone familiar with DenyHosts?   When i try to run "sudo daemon-control start", I get "sudo: daemon-control: command not found"
[01:17] <derrickh> does anyone know why OpenGL drivers revert back to Mesa when Xinerama is enabled?
[01:17] <Linuturk> I've got a strange problem. When my soundcard is installed, my video resolution jumps to the smallest possible. When the sound card wasn't installed, my video was working fine. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[01:17] <KrisWood> how do I manually remove a package when dpkg -r doesn't work?
[01:17] <bluefox83> ok, now it says that my nvidia kernel modules and my nvidia modules are different versions o.o
[01:17] <mangobot> ok........MAYDAY! my dell 1150 minpci card won't work with ubuntu...it shows up in cardctl,  but not in lspci...
[01:17] <mangobot> what's going on???
[01:17] <KrisWood> or how do I force a remove even when there are errors?
[01:17] <NewUbuntuUser> how can i disable the screen saver from the command line?
[01:18] <tbl> mangobot: my card doesn't show up in lspci either
[01:18] <farous> derrickh: for my ati because xinerama effect is handled internally by the ati card
[01:18] <NewUbuntuUser> how can i disable the screen saver from the command line?
[01:18] <eyequeue> KrisWood, dpkg --force-help | less
[01:18] <NewUbuntuUser> how can i disable the screen saver from the command line?
[01:18] <PyroManiak> Any idea why I can't mount the drive? (its a 2nd drive that goes in a swap bay of my laptop)
[01:18] <tbl> mangobot: I've been trying for 48 hours now to get wireless working in ubuntu and I'm pretty much ready to just throw in the towel :-)
[01:18] <KrisWood> eyequeue, thanks I'll try that
[01:19] <mangobot> lol
[01:19] <PyroManiak> I've successfully formatted it now
[01:19] <nemlah> Whats the best way to install fglrx on a fresh kubuntu isntall?
[01:19] <PyroManiak> but I can't open the drive to put stuff on
[01:19] <eyequeue> !repeating > NewUbuntuUser
[01:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeating - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <NewUbuntuUser> !repeating
[01:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeating - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <farous> nemlah: instll from the repos
[01:19] <Megaqwerty> mount it
[01:19] <NewUbuntuUser> lol
[01:19] <NewUbuntuUser> !boom
[01:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <nemlah> farous
[01:19] <farous> !ati > nemlah
[01:19] <naya> PyroManiak: ubuntu makes you do it manually. You have to edit fstab.
[01:19] <NewUbuntuUser> !magic > reality
[01:19] <nemlah> farous: which one?
[01:19] <PyroManiak> Megaqwerty: if I go to "computer" and dbl click on the drive, it says it couldn't
[01:19] <farous> nemlah: you need to install 2 packages from the repos and you are done
[01:20] <PyroManiak> naya: how?
[01:20] <Megaqwerty> oh
[01:20] <farous> nemlah: read ubotu pm
[01:20] <Megaqwerty> what is the exact error?
[01:20] <naya> PyroManiak: otherwise, you can try going to System>Administration>discs
[01:20] <jordanau> mangobot, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221268&highlight=TrueMobile+1150
[01:20] <nemlah> farous: ubotu?
[01:20] <farous> !ati \
[01:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati \ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:20] <farous> !ati
[01:20] <jordanau> mangobot, that might help get you started
[01:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:20] <PyroManiak> Megaqwerty: This is my error :error: device /dev/hdc1 is not removable
[01:20] <PyroManiak> error: could not execute pmount
[01:20] <Down_II> does anyone know where to download the ubuntu 6.06.1 dvd
[01:20] <farous> ^  6
[01:20] <Mistraal> how does one roll-back from Ati drivers 8.27.10 to the fglrx ones?
[01:20] <petr> Linuturk: seems like your sound card prevent your grapics card to be recognized. is it 640x480, i suppose
[01:20] <tbl> if a wireless card doesn't show up in lspci, does that mean there's no hope of getting it running?
[01:20] <Linuturk> yeah petr
[01:21] <ripper> ok, i can not find anything about doing away with these errors in *nix
[01:21] <Linuturk> petr, maybe a conflicting IRQ ?
[01:21] <mangobot> k, thanks jordanau!
[01:21] <Linuturk> ripper, one second
[01:21] <farous> nemlah: just a precaution the driver is buggy so expect problems
[01:21] <petr> Linuturk afaik it should be no problem in these days
[01:21] <gary[ubuntu] > !xgl
[01:21] <Linuturk> petr, well, that seems to be the problem. . . it's really strong, imo
[01:21] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:21] <petr> Linuturk i mean irq should be shareable
[01:21] <jordanau> tbl, paste your lspci in patebin
[01:22] <bluefox83> kernel module and X modules are different..how do i solve that?
[01:22] <NewUbuntuUser> sooo does anyone know how to disable the screen saver using terminal?
[01:22] <KrisWood> I cannot remove a package because one of the files it's looking for isn't there and it errors out, forcing doesn't get rid of it either
[01:22] <KrisWood> how do I remove such a package?
[01:22] <bluefox83> will upgrading to a newer kernel and drivers solve anything?
[01:23] <petr> Linuturk try other pci slot. irq lines are ususllay different for different slots
[01:23] <PyroManiak> naya: Status Innaccessible, Enabled does nothing..Access Path = NONE Filesystem windows Vfat
[01:23] <KrisWood> http://rafb.net/paste/results/OvD5gI73.html
[01:23] <farous> KrisWood: reinstall it then remove it
[01:23] <tbl> jordanau: http://pastebin.ca/128408
[01:23] <Linuturk> ripper, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219369&highlight=azureus
[01:23] <jordanau> NewUbuntuUser, killall xscreensaver maybe
[01:23] <petr> Linuturk tried lspi? to confirm the interrupt thing
[01:23] <KrisWood> farous, it won't install either, I tried that first
[01:23] <NewUbuntuUser> my system uses gnome-screensaver
[01:23] <jordanau> NewUbuntuUser, actually better xscreensaver-command -deactivate
[01:23] <Linuturk> petr, the video is intergrated on the mobo, and all 3 pci slots are full
[01:23] <NewUbuntuUser> im running gnome-screensaver
[01:23] <farous> KrisWood: you tried sudo aptitude reinstall <foo>
[01:24] <Megaqwerty> Pyromaniak: try checking this out, it might help:
[01:24] <Megaqwerty> http://gnomesupport.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11090
[01:24] <jordanau> NewUbuntuUser, did you try the command?
[01:24] <jordanau> NewUbuntuUser, the second one
[01:24] <petr> Linuturk to swapt the 3.
[01:24] <farous> KrisWood: there is a reinstall commmand did you use it
[01:24] <nemlah> farous: thanks
[01:24] <NewUbuntuUser> it says doesnt exist
[01:24] <farous> :)
[01:24] <petr> Linuturk if the soundcard was problem, it would by ctcled out
[01:24] <KrisWood> farous, no, didn't know there was one
[01:24] <viksa> i need to configure my tv card in ubuntu but i don't know how. somebody to help me
[01:25] <lens> I got over one error... with the ./configure but I still have this reoccurring problem, I SO want this to work. --->  http://pastebin.ca/128406
[01:25] <farous> KrisWood: regluar install will work for new or upgrading packages
[01:25] <KrisWood> farous, there are errors on the install
[01:25] <eyequeue> KrisWood, man apt-get
[01:25] <farous> KrisWood: more inform
[01:26] <bluefox83> hey...if i wanted to change my kernel from 386 to k7, would all i need be linux-k7?
[01:26] <eyequeue> KrisWood, see --reinstall
[01:26] <petr> what sound daemon sould be running on my box? totem complains "Culd not establish connection to sound server". before upgrade from 5.xx all went fine
[01:26] <jordanau> NewUbuntuUser, gnome-screensaver-command --help
[01:26] <azureal> ready?  awesome error: "user insisted too much, dying badly"
[01:27] <azureal> Aborted.
[01:27] <xxzx> how to get the the tcp port number opened
[01:27] <NewUbuntuUser> if i deactivate it then will it start up again when i restart?
[01:27] <NewUbuntuUser> cause i dont want it to ever start up again
[01:27] <petr> xxzx which number or service?
[01:28] <NewUbuntuUser> it has a problem where it logs me out when it activates
[01:28] <xxzx> sevice
[01:28] <KrisWood> farous, more information? basicly I'm trying to install postfix but apt-get says it conflicts with gforge-mta-exim4. I tried to remove that package but got errors saying that some of the files were mising and it couldn't be removed. I tried installing it and got errors that it conflicted with my other packages... I'll try the --reinstall command just a sec
[01:28] <mwe> xxzx: huh?
[01:28] <lens> http://pastebin.ca/128406 <--- was wondering if someone could make any sense of this... when I type "make"
[01:28] <tuv> is there a known problem with recent kernels and sata root disks?
[01:29] <viksa> somebody to tell my how to configure my tv card ?
[01:29] <jordanau> why don't you deactivate in in gui?
[01:29] <xxzx> i want to know witch tcp port are opened in my computer
[01:29] <xxzx> how to do
[01:29] <petr> NewUbuntuUser: add the config/dissabling command to user's startup script
[01:29] <farous> xxzx: man netstat
[01:29] <NewUbuntuUser> where is the user startup script?
[01:29] <tuv> my machine has been up continuously for a while (2months+) and when i rebooted today it won't boot (up-to-date system)
[01:30] <NewUbuntuUser> jordanau were you talking to me?
[01:30] <farous> xxzx: I normally use netstat -tup
[01:30] <tuv> an older kernel boots fine though
[01:30] <KrisWood> ok I got it to install but it still won't uninstall
[01:30] <petr> NewUbuntuUser: .bashrc and .bashprofile and .startx or xstart
[01:30] <jordanau> NewUbuntuUser, yeah
[01:30] <NewUbuntuUser> where is it located
[01:31] <higen_> hmm.. i manage to play some wmv files under Kaffeine (with xine).. but only with sound under totme-gstream.. how can i get everything to be working under gstream=
[01:31] <higen_> ?
[01:31] <NewUbuntuUser> jordanau which gui? the screen saver gui?
[01:31] <farous> KrisWood: i think other packages depend on it so just look at the list and see if you need them
[01:31] <farous> KrisWood: aptitude will give you alternatives
[01:31] <jordanau> NewUbuntuUser, yeah
[01:31] <nuaimat> guys, i am connecting to the internet throught a dial up modem , can i know how much is the connection speed ?
[01:31] <petr> NewUbuntuUser run locate bashrc
[01:31] <azureal> hi, I have a strange error when copying from cdrom... "cp: reading `avseq01.dat': Input/output error"
[01:31] <NewUbuntuUser> jordanau because the entire gnome-screensaver crashes something and force logs me out
[01:32] <NewUbuntuUser> so i cant access the gui
[01:32] <longwave> azureal: is the cd scratched?
[01:32] <jordanau> NewUbuntuUser, so deactivate it then disable it in the gui
[01:32] <azureal> longwave, scratched? it was just burned...
[01:32] <KrisWood> farous, ok I've decided that 90% of the problem is that I have no clue what the hell I'm doing lol. I managed to get it installed, but can't removing it now (still misting some files so apt and dpkg won't remove it) I'm not sure what you mean by "alternatives"
[01:32] <NewUbuntuUser> the gui crashes something and forces me to logout ><
[01:32] <KrisWood> and I don't need the package or anything that depends on it
[01:33] <longwave> azureal: or is it a bad burn, then? if it can't read that file, there is probably something wrong with the media itself
[01:33] <azureal> longwave, why would that happen? i can mount it, access /mnt/cdrom..
[01:33] <jordanau> NewUbuntuUser, what does >< mean?
[01:33] <farous> KrisWood: can you post the error message you got on the pastebin. does the error specify the file names that are missing
[01:33] <NewUbuntuUser> >< = it's frustraiting
[01:33] <KrisWood> farous, yes it does
[01:33] <farous> KrisWood: that is what i ment by more inform
[01:33] <NewUbuntuUser> when i am listening to music and the system logs me out and closes all the programs because it cant run the screen saver
[01:34] <KrisWood> farous, ok sorry, I'll get that for you just a sec
[01:34] <farous> ok
[01:34] <tuv> ok.. let me start again. the latest kernel that can boot my system is 2.6.15-23. recent kernels won't boot. they stop after "scsi subsystem initialized". my root filesystem is on sata disk. is there a known problem with recent kernels and sata?
[01:34] <longwave> azureal: if there was dust in the cd drive when it was burning a particular spot where that file is maybe?
[01:34] <jordanau> NewUbuntuUser, i just dont understand why you cant disable it before the screensaver turns on
[01:34] <Greatn> how do i make my login persistant, i use an nx server to log in to my computer remotely, in kubuntu there was an option to make a login persistant, can i do that in ubuntu?
[01:34] <azureal> longwave, rofl....  there just happens to be no dust when it burns in windows; is that what you're saying?
[01:34] <NewUbuntuUser> because when i open the gui the system crashes
[01:34] <NewUbuntuUser> i dont know how i can use the gui to deactivate it when im logged out
[01:35] <jordanau> NewUbuntuUser, does the screensaver preview crash?
[01:35] <longwave> azureal: so the exact same disk works in windows and not linux?
[01:35] <longwave> azureal: you didn't say that bit
[01:35] <NewUbuntuUser> i guess
[01:35] <simsalabim> !alias
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alias - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <azureal> longwave, i did not mean that
[01:35] <simsalabim> !network alias
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about network alias - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <NewUbuntuUser> the window outline shows but nothing in the window
[01:35] <NewUbuntuUser> then bam logged out
[01:35] <longwave> azureal: so sometimes, just randomly, a bad burn happens, burn the cd again and try again?
[01:35] <KrisWood> http://rafb.net/paste/results/ObXZnu13.html
[01:35] <jordanau> NewUbuntuUser, gotcha i understand the problem now
[01:35] <simsalabim> anyone know how to assign multiple ip addresses (for use with ip based virtual hosts) to an interface?
[01:35] <NewUbuntuUser> ok
[01:35] <petr> what sound daemon sould be I running? esd? Totem complains "Could not establish connection to sound server". Before upgrade from 5.xx all went fine.
[01:36] <azureal> longwave, I mean the media is good; i've burned on these cds again
[01:36] <KrisWood> farous, is that what you wanted?
[01:36] <tuv> isn't anyone using sata here?
[01:36] <farous> give me a min to read it
[01:36] <verbose> was limewire ever ported to linux? i thought there was a version but i can't find it on their site
[01:36] <petr> simsalabim: man ifconfig
[01:36] <KrisWood> k
[01:36] <azureal> longwave, but why are you telling me this?  can you just tell me what the error means?
[01:36] <NewUbuntuUser> verbose limewire works on linux
[01:36] <NewUbuntuUser> with much changes to the runLime.sh
[01:36] <simsalabim> petr, i mean in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:36] <azureal> longwave, i mean that i've burned on these cds before* lol
[01:36] <NewUbuntuUser> go to limewire.com and get either the other one
[01:37] <longwave> azureal: i/o error means there was an error reading the cd, thats all
[01:37] <NewUbuntuUser> and install the sun jre
[01:37] <NewUbuntuUser> then tinker with the runLime.sh untill it works
[01:37] <NewUbuntuUser> just change alot of the 1's to 0's
[01:37] <longwave> simsalabim: read /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz - there are examples for interface aliases in there
[01:37] <KrisWood> farous, I just tried tricking it by touching that file but it didn't work
[01:37] <verbose> NewUbuntuUser: thanks
[01:37] <farous> KrisWood: when you search for the gforge-mta-exim4 package is it listed as installed
[01:38] <lmosher> Error: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". Video card: ATI9800 pro w/ fglrx driver.
[01:38] <simsalabim> longwave, thanks, i just wasnt sure of the exact term to look for
[01:38] <KrisWood> farous, it is now
[01:38] <lmosher> Driver directions say to include DRI in the xorg.conf. Shoudl I remove it?
[01:38] <nuaimat> guys, i am connecting to the internet throught a dial up modem , can i know how much is the connection speed ?
[01:38] <Blissex> nuaimat: yes.
[01:38] <farous> KrisWood: sorry have no idea.
[01:38] <verbose> what's the best p2p program for linux?
[01:39] <nuaimat> Blissex: it's you again , thanks you always help me , how ?
[01:39] <Blissex> verbose: silly question.
[01:39] <NewUbuntuUser> i like limewire the most
[01:39] <lmosher> verbose, sharaza has worked fo rme, personally
[01:39] <verbose> Blissex: it's a poll
[01:39] <Joshua__> woo
[01:39] <azureal> longwave, I can copy other files on the disc, just not the .dat file
[01:39] <Joshua__> ubuntu
[01:39] <NewUbuntuUser> jordanau are you still there?
[01:39] <Blissex> nuaimat: ahhh, whatever program you use to connect via the modem logs the connection lines. If you ask it usually.
[01:39] <farous> KrisWood: i had similar prob uninstalling did not work so reinstalling and uninstalling worked. Yet i admin the original problem was my fault at the time
[01:39] <longwave> azureal: so maybe there is an error on the disc just inside that .dat file and nowhere else?
[01:40] <longwave> azureal: try burning it again and see if the same thing happens
[01:40] <Blissex> nuaimat: so investigate the manual for the connection program and check where it puts the connection log. The modem as a rule reports the connection speed when it connects.
[01:40] <azureal> longwave, it appears so...sigh
[01:40] <nuaimat> Blissex: i use the gnome "networking" applet
[01:40] <Joshua__> i have a stupid question, can u install ubuntu on a external hard drive?
[01:40] <KrisWood> farous, my problem is probably my fault too, here's a list of all the gforge packages I'm trying to remove, I don't know how to tell what depends on what http://rafb.net/paste/results/ufp9df83.html
[01:40] <petr> Joshua__ yes
[01:40] <farous> Joshua__: yes you can
[01:40] <NewUbuntuUser> joshua_ if you can boot from it you can install to it
[01:40] <Joshua__> k thank
[01:40] <farous> Joshua__: and much easier if you can boot from the external drive. see your bios sett
[01:40] <nuaimat> Blissex: thanks dude
[01:40] <Blissex> nuaimat: almost surely the applet has a setting to do a verbose report of connection conditions. But I have no idea about it. Ask in #GNOME or look at the docs/Wiki
[01:41] <azureal> longwave, another "user insisted too much, dying badly" error when I attempt to play it in vlc
[01:41] <petr> Joshua__ it is on wiki
[01:41] <Joshua__> kk
[01:41] <azureal> longwave, have you used cdrecord?
[01:41] <tuv> ok.. let me start again. the latest kernel that can boot my system is 2.6.15-23. recent kernels won't boot. they stop after "scsi subsystem initialized". my root filesystem is on sata disk. is there a known problem with recent kernels and sata?
[01:41] <Joshua__> you got a link for the wiki page?
[01:41] <farous> KrisWood: lol your mixing debian sarge with ubuntu?
[01:41] <longwave> azureal: not for a while
[01:41] <NewUbuntuUser> i think the wiki is wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:42] <NewUbuntuUser> o.O
[01:42] <NewUbuntuUser> !wiki
[01:42] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[01:42] <NewUbuntuUser> there
[01:42] <ppd>  hi. is anybody using epiphany with swiftfox embedded?
[01:42] <longwave> tuv: did you have to install the restricted-modules packages for previous kernels?
[01:42] <petr> !sound
[01:42] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[01:42] <zovirl> subhuman: fwiw, you *can* load subversion using apt-get from the live CD.  useful.
[01:43] <mwe> tuv: I've heard quite a few people having problems with the -26 kernel
[01:43] <KrisWood> farous, yes, there was no prebuilt ubuntu binary that worked with breezy or dapper
[01:43] <KrisWood> farous, I ended up just compiling it myself instead
[01:43] <simsalabim> hmm is there a way to easily make less read .gz files without having to manually compress them?
[01:43] <farous> KrisWood: you can escape with low level packages
[01:43] <longwave> simsalabim: use "zless"
[01:43] <NewUbuntuUser> jordanau are you still there?
[01:43] <jordanau> yeah
[01:43] <farous> KrisWood: not with exim or core packages
[01:43] <lmosher> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"... Any ideas what this means? Happens when I run a 3D app (common example is xscreensaver)
[01:43] <simsalabim> longwave, again: thanks :-))
[01:44] <bluefox83> ok..i fixed X
[01:44] <farous> KrisWood: that is way beyond me. hope you can solve it though
[01:44] <bluefox83> but now my sound is all screwy, i have no mass and my foot is literally touching my 15 inch bass >.>
[01:44] <mwe> lmosher: it means you don't have 3d accelration. what does glxinfo|grep direct say?
[01:44] <jordanau> NewUbuntuUser, i showed you the help pages on the screensaver, there is not much more i can do
[01:44] <NewUbuntuUser> jordanau you said you knew what the problem was then stoped talking
[01:45] <funkja> I have a makefile in a directoy and when I type "make" it says Command not found. Am I missing a package that reads Makefiles?
[01:45] <lmosher> mwe, hmm that's odd. It says 'no'.. I sware it said yes the other day.. hrm.
[01:45] <longwave> funkja: install build-essential
[01:45] <lmosher> mwe, it also gives that error :)
[01:45] <mwe> lmosher: maybe you updated the kernel and something went wrong then
[01:45] <jordanau> NewUbuntuUser, yeah, i just don't have a solution, your best bet is gnome-screensaver-command --deactivate
[01:45] <lmosher> mwe, I'm thinking I need to remove "DRI" from my xorg.conf
[01:45] <Renan_s2> Is there any "wishlist" for the next version of Ubuntu?
[01:45] <funkja> longwave: thanks
[01:45] <mwe> lmosher: card?
[01:45] <Blissex> nuaimat: here is an example of the log emitted by the GNOME PPP app: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-188357.html
[01:46] <lmosher> mwe, It's a 9800pro on fglrx. All the guids say to put DRI in there..
[01:46] <Bassetts> you people in here say doing LFS would help to learn all about linux?
[01:46] <Bassetts> *would
[01:46] <mwe> lmosher: that needs the xorg dri driver I think
[01:46] <longwave> Bassetts: if you want to understand how it all works "under the hood" then lfs or gentoo is good for that i guess
[01:46] <looktj> when is the next version out?
[01:46] <longwave> Bassetts: you can still learn a lot from ubuntu though
[01:46] <verbose> Bassetts: that's one way, but i wouldn't recomaend it for a novice
[01:47] <mwe> lmosher: IIRC it should only be disabled for nvidia cards
[01:47] <alexander_> hello all
[01:47] <NewUbuntuUser> ok well that didnt work so back to the origenal question
[01:47] <Kzar_fr> Hi folks, I was wondering who is using Raki / Synce-KDE with success ...
[01:47] <jordanau> Bassetts, yeah i would put slackware or gentoo on a spare computer...
[01:47] <longwave> looktj: when it's ready ;)
[01:47] <NewUbuntuUser> how to remove it from the startup process
[01:47] <lmosher> mwe, Hrm the xorg-dri ATI driver, or there is a seperate xorg DRI thing I need to install?
[01:47] <alexander_> how can i find out what route my modem has?
[01:47] <alexander_> from ifconfig or what?
[01:47] <Megaqwerty> Flash Player 7 isn't displaying google.com/finance's charts correctly. What do I need to do to correct this?
[01:47] <tuv> longwave, yes, and it is installed for the 26 kernel as well
[01:47] <NewUbuntuUser> jordanau do you know how to remove gnome-screensaver from the startup process?
[01:48] <Renan_s2> alexander_, 'route' will show all your routes
[01:48] <mwe> lmosher: Load "dri" in xorg.conf as well as Option "DRI" "true"
[01:48] <looktj> hmm trying to find out who to give these cds to
[01:48] <alexander_> Renan_s2: thanks
[01:48] <KrisWood> farous, thanks for the help, sorry I had to go afk, I have no idea what you're talking about though lol
[01:48] <jordanau> NewUbuntuUser, no but i can help look
[01:48] <mwe> lmosher: but I'm only 99% sure
[01:48] <lmosher> mwe, Ok I'll do some googling, thanks
[01:48] <bluefox83> what does ubuntu use to configure alsa?
[01:48] <sizzam> anyone have DenyHosts running on dapper?
[01:48] <SurfnKid> any good html wizard editors in ubuntu
[01:49] <Renan_s2> !info nvu
[01:49] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB
[01:49] <looktj> what video player supports wmp extensions?
[01:49] <Kzar_fr> Subhuman, NVU
[01:49] <NewUbuntuUser> jordanau thanks for your help but i just put the deactivate command in the startup
[01:49] <NewUbuntuUser> system > preferences > session > startup > gnome-screensaver-command --deactivate
[01:49] <tuv> from lspci: 0000:00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) SATA Controller (rev 03)
[01:49] <Megaqwerty> looktj: I'm pretty sure mplayer does
[01:49] <SurfnKid> Renan_s2, to create websites right
[01:50] <jordanau> NewUbuntuUser, lets hope it works, what is your screensaver timing?
[01:50] <tuv> it's a pretty standard sata controller that ought to be supported in any "newer" kernel, given it is working with an older kernel. I'm really surprised
[01:50] <NewUbuntuUser> i dont know
[01:50] <Joshua__> i have a question
[01:50] <NewUbuntuUser> the gui wont display so i dont know hwo to find the timing
[01:50] <y0shi> Hi.. I need help, just installed xubuntu on my machine and no sound.
[01:50] <lmosher> mwe, I have the Load "DRI" and I have a section called "DRI" but I dont have an option dri "true"... where woudl that go?
[01:51] <longwave> tuv: report it as a bug if you're sure it's a kernel problem
[01:51] <Joshua__> i want to install ubuntu on my external hard drive, when i boot from the ubuntu disc will it give me an option to install in on my external HD?
[01:51] <jordanau> NewUbuntuUser, do you have the correct nvidia/ati drivers installed?
[01:51] <tuv> longwave, well i'm here to make sure i'm not missing anything else
[01:51] <NewUbuntuUser> yes
[01:52] <NewUbuntuUser> i dont know why it all of the sudden decided to break it was working a couple days ago then BAM it died
[01:52] <traviss> So, in the bottom right, it tells me I have two updates. I click the notification icon, it says "Starting Administrative panel..." doesent even open, (its shows it in the task bar) then it disapears and nothing happens...
[01:52] <longwave> tuv: the kernel packages are self-contained except for restricted-modules, but if you have both installed there should be no difference (except bugs fixed!) in newer versions
[01:52] <bluefox83> hey, hwo the hell do i configure my sound system?
[01:52] <mwe> lmosher: sorry. in section "Device"
[01:52] <bluefox83> *how
[01:52] <bluefox83> am using alsa
[01:52] <longwave> tuv: and if it works when you select a different kernel in grub, it must be the kernel itself i guess
[01:53] <y0shi> can some one help me get my sound on?
[01:53] <tuv> longwave, so what is the easiest way to submit a bug report? haven't done it before
[01:53] <voodoo> i have a problem with gaim,,,,,it closed when i connectect,,,,,,,,,,who knows, what happend????????????
[01:53] <longwave> !bugs
[01:53] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[01:53] <traviss> So, in the bottom right, it tells me I have two updates. I click the notification icon, it says "Starting Administrative panel..." doesent even open, (its shows it in the task bar) then it disappears and nothing happens...
[01:53] <Megaqwerty> Flash Player 7 isn't displaying finance.google.com 's charts correctly. What do I need to do to correct this?
[01:53] <NewUbuntuUser> voodoo what protocol were you connecting to?
[01:53] <voodoo> msn
[01:54] <mwe> Megaqwerty: many new flash movies don't work with the old linux player
[01:54] <NewUbuntuUser> megaqwerty complain to macromedia for not updating thier linux flash player
[01:54] <mwe> or use mozplugger to install flashplayer 9
[01:54] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[01:54] <mike-e> how can i view a .daa file?
[01:55] <traviss> So, in the bottom right, it tells me I have two updates. I click the notification icon, it says "Starting Administrative panel..." doesent even open, (its shows it in the task bar) then it disapears and nothing happens...
[01:55] <longwave> tuv: actually, it may already have been reported
[01:55] <mwe> mike-e: what is it?
[01:55] <longwave> tuv: see if https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/47768 corresponds to what you're seeing
[01:55] <looktj> what is xubuntu?
[01:55] <y0shi> Xfce ubuntu..
[01:55] <Saviq> looktj: ubuntu with xfce
[01:55] <y0shi> can someone please help me with my sound problem?
[01:56] <looktj> oh
[01:56] <traviss> Anyone know?
[01:56] <y0shi> just installed xubuntu, but no sound.. seems like it identified my card correctly
[01:56] <tuv> longwave, except that it doesn't say it works with older kernels
[01:56] <mike-e> mwe: warez movie
[01:56] <mwe> mike-e: appearantly it's a poweriso file http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=DAA
[01:56] <mike-e> yeah how do i convert it to like a .iso
[01:56] <Blissex> y0shi: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html the troubleshooting section
[01:57] <mike-e> looktj: xfce rules btw
[01:57] <longwave> tuv: what sata chipset is it?
[01:57] <tuv> from lspci: 0000:00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) SATA Controller (rev 03)
[01:57] <petr> y0shi: say !sound
[01:57] <tuv> longwave, from lspci: 0000:00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) SATA Controller (rev 03)
[01:57] <carrus85> question: what would it take to get Blender 2.42a into the official repo?
[01:57] <mcphail> mike-e: i don't think there is a linux way
[01:57] <mike-e> lame
[01:57] <mwe> mike-e: it seems it's some kind of propriatary format
[01:58] <mcphail> mike-e: blame the producer for using a lame format
[01:58] <carrus85> (or at the very least, into one of the universe/multiverse repos)
[01:58] <Megaqwerty> !sound > y0shi
[01:58] <simsalabim> !virtualhost
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtualhost - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <simsalabim> !virtualhosts
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtualhosts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <simsalabim> !apache
[01:58] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:58] <mwe> !msgthebot
[01:58] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[01:59] <simsalabim> duh, sorry
[02:00] <nbjayme> hello anybody got their via p4m800 (IGP Unichrome Pro properly on ubuntu dapper?
[02:01] <tuv> i enabled bootlog in /etc/default/bootlog, but can't find any /var/log/boot* after a reboot
[02:01] <KrisWood> has anyone else had problems with proftpd after upgrading to dapepr?
[02:01] <KrisWood> dapper*
[02:01] <bluefox83> i seem to be having soundcard issues..is there any way to run an update on alsa?
[02:01] <mwe> tuv: /var/log/dmesg I think
[02:01] <longwave> tuv: maybe https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/47636 is your problem, though it seems laptop specific - what hardware is this on?
[02:02] <ivx> http://rafb.net/paste/results/xFE5gd40.html hey can any tell me why my wireless card won't work
[02:02] <Stormx2> !tell bluefox83 about sound
[02:02] <jadams> where does the kernel log its activities?
[02:02] <tuv> longwave, sony vaio laptop (centrino)
[02:03] <carrus85> jadams, /var/syslog?  /var/messages? /var/kern.log?
[02:03] <tuv> longwave, it's been working fine since the previous ubuntu release
[02:03] <tuv> mwe, i want to see only messages produced at boot time
[02:03] <longwave> tuv: that last bug i pasted reports the same thing, maybe follow up there confirming it happens for you too
[02:03] <longwave> tuv: and until then stick with the old kernel i guess :/
[02:04] <earthen> does anyone know if freecontrib.org is down or not
[02:04] <bluefox83> i don't seem to have "multimedia Systems selector" anywhere o.o
[02:04] <sizzam> earthen: not working for me
[02:04] <mwe> earthen: not here either
[02:04] <CarlV> Is it normal for your CPU usage to spike when moving a window around? I'm not running off compiz/xgl.
[02:04] <longwave> tuv: /var/log/kern.log has the kernel boot messages, that may help
[02:05] <earthen> sizzam, mwe ok I was trying to download easy ubuntu
[02:05] <tuv> longwave, thanks
[02:05] <looktj> openoffice isnt opening
[02:05] <longwave> CarlV: yes, your cpu has to work to redraw the graphics behind the window you are moving
[02:05] <traviss> Hey, so i set my hostname to somehtingi ts not in /etc/hosts and now i cant log in as root. meaning, i cant even log in as root to fix the changes i made
[02:06] <traviss> any ideas?
[02:06] <bluefox83> is there nothing like alsaconfig in ubuntu?
[02:06] <mwe> earthen: http://users.on.net/~goetz/EasyUbuntu/current.tar.bz2
[02:06] <CarlV> longwave: Thanks.
[02:06] <longwave> traviss: can you fix it with sudo?
[02:06] <traviss> no cant use sudo
[02:06] <traviss> because the hostname in /etc/hosts is different
[02:06] <DimitrisC> How do i set up a symbolic link of /dev/ttyHSF0 to /dev/modem?
[02:06] <SurfnKid> is screem good for creating websites
[02:07] <longwave> traviss: can you boot in recovery mode from the grub menu and fix it there?
[02:07] <earthen> mwe, thanks
[02:07] <traviss> havent tried, I was gonna boot to live cd and mount this drive as a last resort
[02:07] <longwave> traviss: that would work also
[02:07] <traviss> well, alright thanks
[02:07] <mwe> Dimitris: you need to write a udev rule
[02:08] <mwe> Dimitris: it's somewhat complicated
[02:08] <mwe> DimitrisC: ^^
[02:09] <longwave> DimitrisC: you might be able to "sudo ln -s /dev/ttyHSF0 /dev/modem" or add that line without the sudo part to /etc/rc.local to make it happen on every boot
[02:09] <DimitrisC> mwe: ok thnx
[02:09] <longwave> it's not the cleanest way but it's easier than playing with udev
[02:09] <mwe> longwave: that's a workaround
[02:09] <bluefox83> card 1: Live [SB Live [Unknown] ] , device 0: emu10k1 [ADC Capture/Standard PCM Playback]    <--does that look right?
[02:09] <lufis> Is there a command which lets me see the status of hardware like fans?
[02:10] <sprink_> I cant compile anything.. I always get this error: "Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/build;"
[02:10] <Sedated> try sensors... dunno if it's installed by default
[02:10] <voodoo> there is an alternative to gaim and kopete and mercury???????????????????
[02:10] <lufis> Sedated: It isn't, I tried it already. Thanks for the suggestion though :(
[02:10] <Sedated> see if lmsensors is in apt
[02:11] <linuchsan> lufis: lm-sensors
[02:11] <Sedated> or synaptic
[02:11] <longwave> lufis: try the lm-sensors package, or sensors-applet for displaying them in a gnome panel
[02:11] <lufis> Longwave, linuchsan: ok
[02:11] <_w^x_> !info freevo
[02:11] <ubotu> Package freevo does not exist in dapper
[02:11] <ivx> hey can anyone help with mywireless card http://rafb.net/paste/results/3pRfXx26.html
[02:11] <_w^x_> !info gnunet
[02:11] <ubotu> gnunet: Secure, trust-based peer-to-peer framework. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.0c-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 694 kB, installed size 2404 kB
[02:11] <Sedated> !info lm-sensors
[02:11] <ubotu> lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.9.2-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 463 kB, installed size 1452 kB
[02:11] <simsalabim> I want to set up a virtualhost for apache. It seems theres a conventional way of doing that on ubuntu (using sites-available and sites-enabled). Should I just plug in a file in sites-available with a virtual host definition, and then symlink in sites-enabled? Is that all that is to it?
[02:11] <_w^x_> !info bitches
[02:11] <ubotu> Package bitches does not exist in dapper
[02:12] <_w^x_> !info i2p
[02:12] <ubotu> Package i2p does not exist in dapper
[02:12] <_w^x_> !info ip2
[02:12] <ubotu> Package ip2 does not exist in dapper
[02:12] <tredlig> can you make a program run before a person even logs into the computer?
[02:12] <longwave> simsalabim: yes, that's the debian/ubuntu way of doing it - but you can use "a2ensite" to create the symlink for you
[02:12] <Saviq> simsalabim: yep
[02:12] <_w^x_> wtf
[02:12] <marinelli59> hi, anybody knows how to fill the Class.forName("???") for access a mysql database ?
[02:12] <Gog123> is there a distribution which just works from the second i install with wmv, realplayer, mp3 and the like
[02:12] <SurfnKid> can someone tell me a good website creator? for linux
[02:12] <sprink_> Any ideas?
[02:12] <leonidas> hi guys
[02:12] <Gog123> ubuntu doesnt work with wmv :(
[02:13] <Gog123> or realplayer from initial install
[02:13] <mwe> yes
[02:13] <panphilla> hello
[02:13] <SurfnKid> Gog123, did you install the w32 packages?
[02:13] <panphilla> we have a wireless problem
[02:13] <panphilla> can anyone help?
[02:13] <SurfnKid> Gog123, the restricted formats?
[02:13] <leonidas> >:o:-D
[02:13] <Gog123> surfnkid:  How do i do that?
[02:13] <SurfnKid> !RestrictedFormat
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about RestrictedFormat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <simsalabim> longwave, Saviq I see, you wouldnt have a link to some reading about that? I mean there is probably a good reason why its like that. Or is it just to keep apache2.conf simpler?
[02:13] <sprink_> I cant compile anything.. I always get this error: "Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/build;"
[02:13] <SurfnKid> !RestrictedFormats
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about RestrictedFormats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <mwe> !restricted
[02:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:13] <SurfnKid> mwe, argh thanks :P
[02:13] <longwave> simsalabim: yes, it's just to make management easier
[02:13] <_w^x_> vlc plays some .wmv
[02:14] <marinelli59> any java developer ?
[02:14] <Saviq> simsalabim: I think it's the latter
[02:14] <SurfnKid> gxine plays some wmv i think
[02:14] <Saviq> it's just plain easy :)
[02:14] <longwave> simsalabim: i name the file the same as the vhost, then i can use "a2ensite" and "a2dissite" to easily turn vhosts on and off
[02:14] <_w^x_> !info java
[02:14] <ubotu> Package java does not exist in dapper
[02:14] <mwe> all linux players play wmv files if the codes is available
[02:14] <simsalabim> longwave, ah, okay... just thought there would be further wizardry behind it
[02:14] <SurfnKid> mwe, thats what i thought too
[02:14] <Gog123> thats the problem with ubuntu
[02:15] <SurfnKid> all progams use the codes avvailable right
[02:15] <Gog123> i just want to have it installed on default
[02:15] <mwe> SurfnKid: no
[02:15] <Gog123> not to go through faqs
[02:15] <SurfnKid> i meant all player programs
[02:15] <longwave> simsalabim: the apache modules are handled in a similar way, that's done so you can have packages that install further apache modules that can be enabled/disabled just as easily
[02:15] <panphilla> does anybody know how to connect to a linksys router using a built-in wireless card?
[02:15] <nuaimat> guys,  i want to install compiz ,but it depends on gset-compiz , i can't install "gset-compiz" , the apt-get says "E: Package gset-compiz has no installation candidate"
[02:15] <mwe> SurfnKid: unfortunately the installation location is not standardized
[02:15] <sizzam> anyone running DenyHosts on Dapper to protect their SSH?
[02:16] <mwe> SurfnKid: some programs need to be told where they are
[02:16] <nuaimat> help me please
[02:16] <Megaqwerty> how do I use mozplugger to install flashplayer 9?
[02:16] <marinelli59> hi, I want to get access to a mysql database, but I don't know the driver for mySql, in the java sentence Class.forName("???");
[02:16] <mwe> !compiz
[02:16] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:16] <panphilla> marinelli59, do you go to cmu?
[02:16] <simsalabim> longwave, ah, okay... that seems nice and clean
[02:16] <SurfnKid> mwe, mmm what i mean is that gxine can play wmv, or mplayer, vlc, you just have to have the restricted formats installed
[02:16] <marinelli59> what is that panphilla ?
[02:17] <nuaimat> help me please guys,  i want to install compiz ,but it depends on gset-compiz , i can't install "gset-compiz" , the apt-get says "E: Package gset-compiz has no installation candidate"
[02:17] <panphilla> do you go to carnegie mellon?
[02:17] <Saviq> w32codecs package
[02:17] <SurfnKid> nuaimat, join #xgl, and ubuntu-xgl
[02:17] <panphilla> one of my friends' last name is marinelli
[02:17] <marinelli59> carnegie mellon is a university, I supose...
[02:17] <panphilla> yes
[02:17] <wickers> evolution is giving me errors whenever I try to open an attachment.
[02:17] <Megaqwerty> nuaimat: go here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351&highlight=openGL
[02:17] <nuaimat> SurfnKid: it's an ubuntu problem ,i can't find the package in the repors , thats it
[02:17] <simsalabim> longwave does debian/ubuntu have some util to manage and install several instances of for instance the same content management system?
[02:17] <marinelli59> no, I'm living in Mexico
[02:18] <mcphail> sizzam: i'm running denyhosts
[02:18] <Stormx2> nuaimat: Please, read the page. You need to add some more repos, f00
[02:18] <longwave> simsalabim: that depends on the cms, i guess
[02:18] <sizzam> mcphail: did you compile from source and all that jazz?
[02:18] <marinelli59> !mysql driver
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mysql driver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <longwave> simsalabim: most of them have some way of installing multiple sites on the same server, usually just through a different database name and/or storage directory
[02:18] <SurfnKid> nuaimat, join the xgl and ubunt-xgl channel,the ppl there are pretty smart
[02:19] <Megaqwerty> nuaimat: just follow the instructions on the link I gave you, and you will get it installed. That is how I did it!
[02:19] <SurfnKid> nuaimat, compiz stuff
[02:19] <BoSJo> Hi all: So how do I Copy/Paste across different apps. in Ubuntu?
[02:19] <mcphail> sizzam: as i remember, it is a python program. You don'r compile it
[02:19] <_w^x_> BoSJo, just right click copy paste
[02:19] <BoSJo> _w^x_: dossent work???
[02:19] <_w^x_> hummm
[02:19] <sizzam> mcphail: i go through all of the steps in the read-me, but i run into problems when i try to run daemon-control
[02:20] <simsalabim> longwave, ok, i just remember something on gentoo... webapp-config.. that did it for you.. not that i think i will miss it
[02:20] <marinelli59> anybody knows java programming ?
[02:20] <sizzam> mcphail: it says its not a program, like it doesn't exist
[02:20] <fredmorcos> marinelli59: yes
[02:20] <Saviq> BoSJo: ctrl+insert / shift+insert? ctrl+c / ctrl+v
[02:20] <fredmorcos> guys
[02:20] <simsalabim> marinelli59, a bit
[02:20] <fredmorcos> i messed up my ubuntu system!
[02:20] <marinelli59> frdmorcos, how do you access a mysql database in java,    Class.forName("??");
[02:20] <fredmorcos> i wanted to remove dash (that was installed by the faster dapper script) and get bash back...
[02:20] <BoSJo> _w^x_: ctrl+c & v dossent work, will try shift+insert
[02:21] <mcphail> sizzam: it was sooo long ago when i set this up, but it just runs with ./denyhosts --daemon
[02:21] <sizzam> ooooh
[02:21] <fredmorcos> marinelli59: i don't know, never dealt with databases in java..
[02:21] <sizzam> mcphail: i was actually trying to execute 'daemon-control'
[02:21] <marinelli59> oh, thanks anyway...
[02:21] <sizzam> mcphail: thanks, i'll try your command
[02:21] <marinelli59> and you simsalabim
[02:22] <marinelli59> ?
[02:22] <Rug> Howdy all
[02:22] <fredmorcos> i removed dash (which didn't suceed) before directing sh to bash
[02:22] <fredmorcos> and now the system doesn't boot/shutdown... no scripts are running...
[02:22] <longwave> simsalabim: hrm, that webapp-config looks interesting, there's nothing like that in debian/ubuntu that i know of
[02:22] <mcphail> sizzam: the version i'm running is 1.1.3. Things may have changed since i installed
[02:23] <sizzam> mcphail: thats about the last time I used it as well, maybe i'll go grab an older version from sourceforge
[02:23] <micahcowan> fredmorcos, are you currently in an X session, or have you manually shut down the system since this?
[02:23] <simsalabim> longwave, ok, im not experienced enough to know if its really useful or not.. i guess if you have to install loads of instances of the same site something like that could be useful
[02:23] <BoSJo> _w^x_ : very strange...... now suddently Copy/Paste works........ havent all day......strange, and thats with Ctrl+c/v
[02:23] <linuchsan> sizzam:why don't you use keys?
[02:23] <simsalabim> marinelli59, uhm, no.. havent worked with that
[02:23] <fredmorcos> micahcowan: i manually shut it down.. im on the live cd
[02:23] <wickers> where can I tell evolution to store attachments?
[02:24] <sizzam> linuchsan: what do you mean, im new to the world of SSH
[02:24] <fredmorcos> micahcowan: trying to chroot
[02:24] <longwave> simsalabim: yeah, and if you're doing that, you're probably going to want custom scripts anyway
[02:24] <wickers> it stores them in a temp file, but when I launch it, the URL to the temp file has an extra /home/ in it...
[02:24] <wickers> where can I change the folder?
[02:24] <simsalabim> marinelli59, dont you have to import some kind of java database library and then call methods in that to set up a connection, send queries etc?
[02:24] <micahcowan> fredmorcos, that's what I was going to suggest: are you having trouble with the chroot? (you haven't installed bash yet, then, I take it?
[02:24] <longwave> simsalabim: also, i imagine handling security updates could be a nightmare if you aren't careful
[02:24] <fredmorcos> micahcowan: no it's working..
[02:25] <fredmorcos> micahcowan: scripts don't run..
[02:25] <micahcowan> does apt-get require sh?
[02:25] <linuchsan> sizzam:man sshd
[02:25] <azureal> longwave, it's something else (the input/output error) ...
[02:25] <fredmorcos> micahcowan: and dpkg-preconfigure doesn't run, so installing with apt-get is out of the question
[02:25] <simsalabim> longwave, im not sure but i would guess that portage together netapp-config would handle that
[02:25] <fredmorcos> micahcowan: i mean, apt-get won't install anything..
[02:25] <ab0oo> any hints on getting past "Invalid Tar Magic" with a net-install of dapper kubuntu.  I can't even tell which package is borked up.
[02:26] <mcphail> linuchsan: there is nothing wrong with having an extra layer of security
[02:26] <ab0oo> the red screen of death clams "Base system Installation Error"
[02:26] <gunnar_> !xgl
[02:26] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:26] <marinelli59> yes simsalabin, thats the import java.sql.*; statement, but for connection purposes you need an url (I supose jdbc:mysql://localhost:3305/database) but i don;t know the driver
[02:26] <longwave> azureal: is that cd a vcd/svcd by any chance? the filename looks familiar
[02:26] <micahcowan> fredmorcos... outside the chroot, you should make a symlink for sh inside your partition, I'm thinking: do you have any other shells that might qualify? ksh perhaps?
[02:26] <fiXXXerMet> Does Ubuntu-Desktop have a GUI LVM Manager?
[02:26] <marinelli59> the driver is specific for each database vendor
[02:26] <azureal> longwave, yea, it is...
[02:27] <fredmorcos> micahcowan: here is dpkg -l bash >>  Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
[02:27] <petr> I have no sound. Tried wiki DebuggingSoundProblems and "aplay --list-devices" gives result "aplay: device_list:221: no soundcards found...". Before upgrade it was fine.
[02:27] <fredmorcos> micahcowan: no, i dont have any other shells
[02:27] <longwave> azureal: maybe there is a problem there because the cd format is slightly nonstandard for vcd/svcd, i dont know why that shouldnt work really though
[02:27] <sizzam> mcphail: do you have an entry for denyhosts in init.d?
[02:27] <marinelli59> other question: how do you make a rlogin (I tried, but "connection refused" error message appears)
[02:27] <micahcowan> fredmorcos... you might try manually copying /bin/bash from the live-CD, and using that to bootstrap so you can use dpkg/apt-get...
[02:27] <azureal> longwave, it's not possible that some running prog is interfering w/ the reading of a file?
[02:28] <longwave> marinelli59: you need to look in the documentation for the specific jdbc driver you are trying to use
[02:28] <fredmorcos> micahcowan: yes
[02:28] <mcphail> sizzam: i run it @reboot from cron
[02:28] <fredmorcos> micahcowan: give me a second
[02:28] <sizzam> mcphail: k
[02:28] <longwave> azureal: i dont think so, unless you have a media player running in the background that may be trying to view it?
[02:28] <marinelli59> ok, i'm searching in the documentation
[02:28] <petriborg> hello all - would this be the right channel to ask about an ubuntu problem i'm having before my box goes down a tower of smoke? :-)
[02:29] <longwave> petriborg: yep just ask your question :)
[02:29] <funkja> How do I run a .run file?
[02:29] <fredmorcos> micahcowan: can we talk in pvt?
[02:29] <micahcowan> yes.
[02:29] <azureal> longwave, no, i'm also simply trying to copy the file over, not only view it
[02:29] <azureal> longwave, i can copy over most of the files, but not the impt one
[02:30] <mcphail> funkja: there is nothing specific about a .run file (it could be called anything). Just "chmod +x filename" then "./filename"
[02:30] <Stormx2> or bash filename ;-)
[02:30] <Stormx2> or sh filename
[02:30] <Stormx2> depends.
[02:30] <Stormx2> actually
[02:30] <Stormx2> im wrong
[02:30] <Stormx2> bye
[02:30] <Stormx2> ^.^
[02:30] <sizzam> mcphail: in your denyhosts.cfg file, are you configured like this:   LOCK_FILE = /var/run/denyhosts.pid
[02:30] <nuaimat> hi guys , i am a noob , what to do when asked to "configure Xorg with..." ?
[02:30] <funkja> mxphail : thanks
[02:31] <petriborg> ok the problem: ubuntu seems to have become confused and thinks my file system is full when it is *not* full. small files still seem to be able to be written but df has stopped working now and and menu>system>administration>disk seems to be complete confused reporting 100% use for all 4 of my drives
[02:31] <nuaimat> i meant how to configure xorg with something like "DefaultDepth    24"
[02:31] <petriborg> writing large files seems to have stopped working though
[02:31] <azureal> longwave, thx anyway
[02:31] <gnomefreak> is there an applet that lets you search filesystem?
[02:31] <mcphail> sizzam: LOCK_FILE = /var/run/denyhosts.pid - yes
[02:32] <longwave> azureal: i've been doing some googling and maybe you can't just copy svcds like that on linux..
[02:32] <gnomefreak> or an applet for nautilus
[02:32] <longwave> azureal: you might have to use mencoder or something to read the stream properly
[02:32] <simsalabim> longwave, thanks for all your help, nn to you all
[02:32] <nuaimat> gnomefreak: there's a search applet inside Places
[02:32] <gnomefreak> naupanel applet
[02:32] <petriborg> df is reporting the error
[02:32] <petriborg> bash: /bin/df: File too large
[02:33] <linuchsan> nuaimat: xorg.conf
[02:33] <fredmorcos> micahcowan: i messaged you
[02:33] <gnomefreak> nuaimat: im looking for a panel applet to home folder
[02:33] <jinho> hi, I have my system set as a dual boot between windows xp and ubuntu, and have been using grub 1.5 to allow me to switch between the two, however today the computer says, "ERROR LOADING OPERATING SYSTEM"- has anyone had this problem (with what I believe to be a grub issue) before, and if so could you please help me fix it? (I'm using knoppix right now btw- help much appreciated!)
[02:33] <nuaimat> linuchsan: where is that file?
[02:33] <micahcowan> fredmorcos, I didn't get it...?
[02:33] <linuchsan> nuaimat: /etc/X11
[02:34] <nuaimat> gnomefreak: i think there's an applet , right click on the bar , and choose add applet , you will find it under "utilities"
[02:34] <nuaimat> linuchsan: thanks
[02:34] <fredmorcos> micahcowan: i did cp /bin/bash disk/bin/bash
[02:34] <fredmorcos> micahcowan: and now when i chroot back
[02:34] <gnomefreak> nuaimat: tried that
[02:34] <fredmorcos> micahcowan: it says: bash: /usr/bin/groups: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[02:34] <PrisonerSix> hello
[02:34] <fredmorcos> micahcowan: should i symlink /bin/sh to /bin/bash ?
[02:35] <petriborg> anyone have any ideas? (guesses, random thoughts, or uh, non-random thoughts welcome)
[02:35] <micahcowan> fredmorcos, that's just what I was going to suggest.
[02:35] <jinho> anyone- please I really need help right now!
[02:36] <longwave> petriborg: do you have lots of small files on that drive? does "df -i" show anything?
[02:36] <petriborg> jinho shouldn't grub give you an error number?
[02:36] <fredmorcos> micahcowan: what about the error i get? u mean, suggest linking?
[02:36] <petriborg> longwave: petri@linuxbox:~$ df -i
[02:36] <petriborg> bash: /bin/df: File too large
[02:36] <petriborg> it says nothing
[02:36] <petriborg> it says that whenever i try it on *any* file
[02:36] <jinho> petriborg: wish I was knowledgable enough to know- all it says though is "error loading operating system" right when GRUB should be loading
[02:36] <micahcowan> micahcowan, yeah, I suggest symlinking /bin/sh to bash
[02:37] <azureal> longwave, yea, i've also been googling.. what do you mean by 'read the stream properly' ?
[02:37] <jinho> petriborg- although when I tried booting directly from the hard drive that had windows on it- it gave me Error #17
[02:37] <linuchsan> jinho: This isn't a knoppix channel
[02:37] <micahcowan> fredmorcos, ^^^^
[02:37] <Illicit> Where is the default location of my Kernel Headers?
[02:37] <micahcowan> (I accidentally addressed it to myself)
[02:37] <petriborg> ah well see that is useful info jinho
[02:37] <longwave> azureal: svcds are written in a different mode with less error correction, and the drive has to be told to switch mode i think
[02:37] <Illicit> it's not in /usr/src
[02:37] <jinho> linuchsan- I know it isnt- but my problem has to do w/ a dual boot Ubuntu/Windows system- so I feel it is relevant to post here
[02:38] <petriborg>  Error 17 indicates GRUB can't id the partition type. Check http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[02:38] <petriborg> jinho thats for you
[02:38] <petriborg> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1669.html
[02:38] <micahcowan> Illicit, I believe the headers are installed directly to /usr/include/linux.
[02:39] <Illicit> micahcowan: im installing vmplayer and it says those r just C headers
[02:39] <petriborg> i'm not sure how to fix it by any means at the moment but its a start :-)
[02:39] <petr> How te get my sound back? Tried wiki DebuggingSoundProblems and "aplay --list-devices" gives result "aplay: device_list:221: no soundcards found...". Before upgrade to 6.06 it was fine.
[02:39] <azureal> longwave, i guess i picked a hard first-cd type to burn, eeh
[02:39] <azureal> eh*
[02:39] <mcphail> Illicit: install "linux-headers-`uname -r`" then vmware will find them
[02:39] <petriborg> petr - did you check your sound out volumn in the panel?
[02:40] <mcphail> Illicit: they will be installed in kernel-specific subdirectories of /usr/src
[02:40] <azureal> longwave, i'll burn it windows then; i'll save the non-vcds for linux to test away...
[02:41] <Illicit> mcphail: well the only reason i ask is cuz, im almost sure i used them the other day, just forgot where they were located...
[02:41] <Rug> How do I burn .vob files so that they will play on my DVD player?
[02:41] <mcphail> Illicit: if you have installed them, they will be in subdirs of /usr/src
[02:41] <sizzam> mcphail: looks like im up and running, thanks for the help!
[02:41] <mcphail> Illicit: but vmware finds them automatically if installed
[02:41] <micahcowan> Illicit: do you have linux-kernel-headers installed?
[02:41] <Illicit> mcphail: alright ill check that, thx
[02:41] <mcphail> sizzam: np
[02:42] <micahcowan> mcphail, linux-kernel-headers, at least on edgy, doesn't go in /usr/src...
[02:42] <Illicit> micahcowan: yes
[02:42] <petr> petriborg yes. the wiki recomends this. in fact the panel say it could not find any gstreamer plugin
[02:42] <mcphail> micahcowan: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-k7/ on dapper here
[02:43] <capplianceguy> how do I alter files with root permissions
[02:43] <mcphail> micahcowan: aah, i see. Looks as if those are old breezy headers...
[02:43] <petr> capplianceguy: you mena how to edit them?
[02:44] <linuchsan> jinho: Sorry, using knoppix to access your drive is the right thing. Can you post your menu.lst?
[02:44] <petr> capplianceguy or to change their permisions so other user can edit them?
[02:44] <mcphail> micahcowan: actually, no, the dapper headers are under /usr/src as well
[02:44] <capplianceguy> yes i need to alter my xorg.conf file to install new drivers by nvidia
[02:44] <petriborg> petr - i assume you then went into the package manager and made sure that the streamer stuff was fully installed? i believe the last update 6.06 included an update to gstreamer
[02:44] <micahcowan> fredmorcos, did you fix it?
[02:44] <funkmaster> hi ppl :) i use ubunutu 6.06 and apache2, mysql5,php5.1.2, when i check phpinfo it does not show me the php5-mysql though it is installed when i check in synaptic any idea why? or how to fix it?
[02:45] <fredmorcos> micahcowan: it's done.. i removed dash and have bash installed now... thanks for your time i really appreciate this...
[02:45] <hellokthulu> hello * --
[02:45] <micahcowan> mcphail, what package do you get for "dpkg -S /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-k7"?
[02:45] <petriborg> petr - i just bring this up because i had a somewhat similar problem for a while after i updated too
[02:45] <fredmorcos> micahcowan: ill boot back to the system, thanks really
[02:45] <micahcowan> so you got it installed?
[02:45] <hellokthulu> Anyone know why Flash apps wouldn't have some fonts?  The nitrome.com games are kind of hard to play without the help :-)
[02:45] <mcphail> micahcowan: linux-headers-2.6.12-10-k7: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-k7
[02:45] <petr> petriborg some streamer stuff you say... I'll try it
[02:46] <bimberi> capplianceguy: gksudo "gedit /etc/X11/xorg/conf"   (in a terminal)
[02:46] <mcphail> micahcowan: but as i said, that's the breezy kernel isn't it...
[02:46] <micahcowan> mcphail, okay, yeah: there's a confusion with me between linux-headers-blah and linux-kernel-headers (which just touches stuff in /usr/include).
[02:47] <petriborg> yeah the update went from gstreamer 0.8 to 0.10 and that caused the problem for me :-)
[02:47] <detecshr> do you guys really like ubuntu?
[02:47] <petriborg> ubuntu rocks
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> yes
[02:47] <MrRio> i do yeah
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> i give it a B+
[02:47] <matti> ;] 
[02:47] <adminx> Love it
[02:47] <matti> LOL
[02:47] <petriborg> i've been using it for a long time now
[02:47] <matti> ;-)
[02:47] <gdub> tw33t
[02:47] <adminx> not like
[02:47] <adminx> but love it
[02:47] <detecshr> is it better than gentoo?
[02:48] <JohnnyG> apt-get install madwifi-source  if I could get this to work, I could get my wireless working - can someone people provide instructions on how to look up a respository that has this?
[02:48] <matti> detecshr: This is hard to compare.
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> detecshr,  different design goals.
[02:48] <matti> detecshr: Dr_Willis got the point.
[02:48] <petriborg> gentoo was really interesting too, but for me, i got sick of it when windows wiped out my MBR and i didn't have the energy and time to reinstall
[02:48] <detecshr> can you compile your own kernel?
[02:48] <hellokthulu> detecshr: It's great to set up and use.  ALMOST got everything going without having to use the terminal.
[02:48] <mcphail> detecshr: if you must
[02:48] <linuchsan> detecshr: Why the question
[02:49] <detecshr> i'm tired of fedora
[02:49] <petriborg> it's entirely possible to compile the kernel
[02:49] <capplianceguy> bimberi: capplianceguy: gksudo "gedit /etc/X11/xorg/conf"   (in a terminal)  this does not work because the file is read only and I can't change permissions
[02:49] <MrRio> JohnnyG: use the pre-built modules, which distro are you using?
[02:49] <jinho> has anyone had an "error loading operating system" error ever- and if so what did you do?
[02:49] <detecshr> is it going to give you problems
[02:49] <petriborg> though i always compile modules unless i have to
[02:49] <mcphail> detecshr: (and you can use something newer than gcc-3.4 to compile it as well)
[02:49] <hellokthulu> detecshr: Well, the price is right :-)
[02:49] <linuchsan> detecshr: You don't yum
[02:49] <detecshr> no
[02:49] <petr> petriborg do I need gstreamer0.8-artsd?
[02:49] <tarzeau> how can i request a universe package in ubuntu is gotten updated?
[02:49] <micahcowan> detecshr, it can if you go the wrong way about it. You have to follow the instructions:
[02:49] <micahcowan> !kernel
[02:49] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:49] <adminx> gentoo I tought was a great way to really learn alot about linux system command, very well documented.
[02:49] <tarzeau> it's about which there's securityfixed versions in debian http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/edgy/sound/opencubicplayer
[02:50] <petriborg> petri - no stick with .10
[02:50] <bimberi> capplianceguy: did you type "gksudo" at the start of the command?
[02:50] <matti> adminx: For learning the best will be linux from scratch or slackware.
[02:50] <JohnnyG> MrRio, I have been trying to get these drivers in for going on 6 hours now, each way I've tried failed because I'm new to Ubuntu - if you would walk me through installing madwiki I'd really appreciate it
[02:50] <JohnnyG> I'm only trying that way because others have failed
[02:50] <petriborg> er, petr - sorry about that, stick with .10, i just had to install some of the other modules
[02:50] <MrRio> JohnnyG: madwifi is already included in linux-restricted-modules-xx
[02:50] <petriborg> petr - some other gstreamer .10 modules
[02:51] <capplianceguy> no let me try
[02:51] <MrRio> JohnnyG, where xx is the kernel version
[02:51] <soheil> hi room
[02:51] <detecshr> would i be able to use my linksys wireless card?
[02:51] <JohnnyG> MrRio: I've read about linux-restricted-modules but I don't understand what they are or how to use them to solve this problem
[02:51] <petriborg> petr - in particular i had to install gstream0.10-alsa and some others
[02:51] <linuchsan> I think Gentoo has got the best documentation there is about linux
[02:51] <soheil> I faced a really big problem
[02:51] <JohnnyG> MrRio how do I determine my kernel version?
[02:51] <petriborg> linuchsan - it really is very good
[02:51] <MrRio> JohnnyG: uname -a
[02:51] <capplianceguy> thanks that worked
[02:52] <JohnnyG> Linux johnny-laptop 2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 03:13:28 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:52] <petriborg> i just wish i could figure out why linux has become so freaked out about my drives :(
[02:52] <soheil> It relates to Gaim...
[02:52] <JohnnyG> ok, so kernel version 2.6.15 and I've got a i686 - how do I use that to enable or disable (not sure which) my restricted-modules?
[02:52] <petr> gstreamer0.8-artsd: I already have gstreamer0.10-alsa installed
[02:52] <MrRio> JohnnyG, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[02:53] <tjb13> hey guys how to i upgrade my ubuntu to the new release 6.061
[02:53] <MrRio> JohnnyG: that will automagically put the kernel version on the end
[02:53] <soheil> when I click  Tools-->rooom list, nothiing happens
[02:53] <soheil> It relates to Gaim...
[02:53] <soheil> when I click  Tools-->rooom list, nothiing happens
[02:53] <petriborg> i mean any program that seems to check the avail disk space is freaking out because it thinks that all of my disk is in use
[02:53] <matti> Oh my.
[02:53] <matti> captive_ntfs--
[02:54] <JohnnyG> MrRio: I'm sorry, but I don't understand what putting the kernel version on the end means, I'm not trying to be rude, I really don't get it and want to
[02:54] <petriborg> like dvdrip says that "this task needs 0MB, but only 0MB is available"....
[02:54] <soheil> who helps me?
[02:54] <one_stinky_bum> heheh
[02:54] <one_stinky_bum> sounds perfect
[02:54] <one_stinky_bum> pertri
[02:54] <JohnnyG> MrRio: the sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` command worked without error
[02:54] <JohnUK89> soheil: try typing /list as a command
[02:54] <MrRio> JohnnyG: yeah no probs, just that code i gave you, it will get the kernel version and put it on the end for you, you just need to paste and press enter
[02:54] <one_stinky_bum> try using k9copy
[02:54] <petriborg> OSB - yeah its great if what i want is a broken system :(
[02:54] <superjew9020> when i try and mount my windows partition i keep gettin an error wats the flood channel i can put it in?
[02:54] <soheil> in the terminal, u mean?
[02:55] <JohnUK89> soheil: no, in Gaim
[02:55] <JohnUK89> IRC command :)
[02:55] <one_stinky_bum> petri - I'm using k9copy without issues
[02:55] <soheil> how?
[02:55] <JohnnyG> MrRio: I've run that and it isn't saying error anywhere, whats next?
[02:55] <MrRio> JohnnyG: did it say it's been installed?
[02:55] <JohnnyG> MrRio: The following NEW packages will be installed:
[02:55] <JohnnyG>   linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686
[02:55] <marinelli59> anybody , how do yo rlogin or ssh other machine without the connection refuse message ?
[02:55] <JohnnyG> sorry for the paste but...
[02:55] <JohnnyG> Unpacking linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686 (from .../linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686_2.6.15.11-3_i386.deb) ...
[02:55] <JohnnyG> Setting up linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686 (2.6.15.11-3) ...
[02:55] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:~$
[02:55] <JohnUK89> soheil: type it where you would normally put messages, Gaim recognises it as a command and should bring up the list
[02:56] <JohnnyG> MrRio: in conclusion, yes, it looks good - but what does it mean?
[02:56] <Kittiah> Hey guys, Does anyone know of a mirror (or could host a copy for me) of EasyUbuntu? Their official site has been down for 2 days and I really need to get this installation configured
[02:56] <MrRio> JohnnyG; ok, that's it, that package includes madwifi, so you have madwifi now
[02:56] <JohnnyG> jeeeez
[02:56] <JohnnyG> thats it?
[02:56] <tjb13> anyone?
[02:56] <JohnnyG> MrRio: could i have done that using synapse?
[02:56] <zcat[1] > marinelli59: the other machine has to be running sshd to accept the connection, which it won't be by default.. 'sudo apt-get install ssh'
[02:56] <MrRio> JohnnyG: yeah, easily
[02:56] <MrRio> JohnnyG, 'Search' then type 'madwifi'
[02:56] <marinelli59> thanks zcat1
[02:57] <JohnnyG> MrRio: can you teach me how i could have done that, and more importantly what  each step means so I can do thing kind of stuff in the future without bugging
[02:57] <soheil> it says that command doesn't work on this protocol
[02:57] <zcat[1] > also if you set up a firewall you'll need to open port 22
[02:57] <JohnnyG> MrRio: I did that and it returned a bunch of packages
[02:57] <soheil> my protocol:yahoo
[02:57] <JohnnyG> MrRio: but I wasn't sure if they related because none of them said madwifi
[02:57] <JohnUK89> Oh Yahoo...I don't know if Gaim can use Yahoo chats, best ask in #gaim
[02:57] <MrRio> JohnnyG, It is confusing, the description for one of those packages explains which modules it includes
[02:58] <petriborg> OSB - i've been using dvdrip without problems for weeks now, its just this morning when i booted it that it had a problem, first grub was giving me error 15 (MBR not found)...  but that was easily fixed, and then X wouldnt' start but a simple reboot fixed that, and now dvdrip and a bunch of stuff stopped working and df and ubuntu's system stuff all says my disks are full but that isn't true and if i boot off the ubuntu live CD and mou
[02:58] <MrRio> JohnnyG, all the different packages are there for each version of the kernel
[02:58] <soheil> wqhat to do???
[02:58] <JohnnyG> MrRio: so I needed to figure out which kernel i had and match the numbers up to the kernel update that included the package i wanted?
[02:58] <soheil> what to do??
[02:58] <one_stinky_bum> petri: interesting
[02:59] <JohnnyG> MrRio: let me do it now, although it is installed, just to see to - 2 secs please
[02:59] <JohnUK89> soheil: head into #gaim and ask them if it can work with Yahoo chats
[02:59] <Kittiah> Does any generous person have a copy of EasyUbuntu they could send to me? I'm desperate to get this installation finished ASAP and their website has been down for days, pretty please? ^.^
[02:59] <one_stinky_bum> petri: tried to trace it
[02:59] <MrRio> JohnnyG, kk
[02:59] <hellokthulu> Anyone installed the 'msttcorefonts' package?  I can't seem to...
[02:59] <petriborg> OSB - how do i trace it?
[02:59] <hellokthulu> (It gives M$ fonts such as Verdana, Ariel, etc.)
[02:59] <marinelli59> zcat[1]  the error message says:  connect to x.x.x.x port 22 : Connection refused    (I've already installed the package you mentioned)
[02:59] <MrRio> hellokthulu: what seems to be the problem
[02:59] <petriborg> OSB - is there some system log i should be reading in /var/logs?
[02:59] <hellokthulu> Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:00] <hellokthulu> Is the error.
[03:00] <JohnnyG> MrRio: ok, I see it and understand
[03:00] <tjb13> ?
[03:00] <JohnnyG> MrRio: to get wireless working, is my next move to boot? once i've booted what should i click into in order to edit my wireless settings
[03:00] <one_stinky_bum> petri: 1sec
[03:00] <zcat[1] > how about connecting to localhost from the machine itself?
[03:00] <MrRio> JohnnyG, System -> Administration -> Networking
[03:00] <marinelli59> wait me a little
[03:00] <JohnnyG> MrRio: should my system automatically detect it apon boot? if it doesn't, what is the next step?
[03:01] <JohnnyG> *upon
[03:01] <MrRio> JohnnyG, Select 'Wireless Connection', then properties
[03:01] <soheil> what is #Gaim?aand how to join it?
[03:01] <JohnnyG> MrRio: I only see Ethernet connection and Modem connection
[03:01] <JohnnyG> MrRio: oh, I have to boot to see it...
[03:01] <live_> nas
[03:01] <soheil> what is #Gaim?aand how to join it?
[03:01] <JohnUK89> Soheil: #gaim is an IRC channel and you join it by typing /join #gaim
[03:01] <one_stinky_bum> petri: launch from terminal, see what the out put is
[03:01] <JohnnyG> MrRio: will you be in here in like 3 minutes?
[03:01] <MrRio> JohnnyG, Yeah sure
[03:02] <JohnnyG> thanks very much, brb
[03:02] <soheil> in the terminal?
[03:02] <MrRio> cya in a sec
[03:02] <marinelli59> zcat it works ok
[03:02] <petriborg> launch what from the terminal? dvdrip isn't putting out anything in the terminal
[03:02] <one_stinky_bum> does here
[03:02] <tear> anybody know how to install fluxbox
[03:02] <JohnUK89> soheil: no, into your IRC client, where you would normally type messages
[03:02] <petriborg> bash: /bin/df: File too large
[03:02] <mopflite> tear: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[03:02] <zcat[1] > marinelli59: OK, you have firestarter on that machine? open port 22? can you ping it from the other machine?
[03:03] <MrRio> hellokthulu: have you enabled universe?
[03:03] <MrRio> hellokthulu: sorry, multiverse, i mean
[03:03] <one_stinky_bum> petri: where did you run df?
[03:03] <marinelli59> I understand that firestarter is a firewall, but i don/t installed it.
[03:03] <one_stinky_bum> home?
[03:03] <petriborg> from home yeah
[03:03] <hellokthulu> MrRio: Let me check...
[03:03] <marinelli59> i can ping the other machine and there is a physical connection
[03:04] <zcat[1] > hmm.. ok. Both machines on the same LAN, no firewalls or NAT between them?
[03:04] <one_stinky_bum> and there was no list... just said file too large
[03:04] <petriborg> where i run it from makes no difference though
[03:04] <one_stinky_bum> ?
[03:04] <MrRio> hellokthulu: Multiverse is for non-free packages, like the ms fonts
[03:04] <petriborg> i c/p the whole output
[03:04] <petriborg> so yeah thats it
[03:04] <tivo> anyone in here have experience enabling SVIDEO out on a 6800 card? (running 6.06)
[03:04] <one_stinky_bum> wow
[03:04] <one_stinky_bum> I'm stumped
[03:04] <petriborg> df says the same thing if i run it from anywere
[03:04] <tear> that didn't work sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[03:04] <visik7> parallels on ubuntu with VT hardware is really great
[03:05] <one_stinky_bum> so how do you know you have room on the drive?
[03:05] <one_stinky_bum> grkellm?
[03:05] <HeXiOn> hello
[03:05] <MrRio> tear: fluxbox is in universe, enable it using synaptic
[03:05] <zcat[1] > well I'm stumped. By all accounts it should be working :)
[03:05] <petriborg> OSB - i booted off my ubuntu live CD
[03:05] <MrRio> tear, if you need more info, give me a shout
[03:05] <petriborg> OSB - it works there
[03:05] <one_stinky_bum> oh
[03:05] <HeXiOn> is there a way to make ati control panel work under XGL?
[03:05] <JohnnyG> MrRio: after booting and going to system -> administration -> networking I still see only ethernet connection and modem connection
[03:06] <Kittiah> MrRio - Yeah, tell me about it, so easy to get drowned out! ^^
[03:06] <one_stinky_bum> so are you in ULive now? Can you get back on your box
[03:06] <marinelli59> zcat I've already ping the machine and there is connection
[03:06] <hellokthulu> MrRio: Thanks for the help, gotta run, alas :-(
[03:06] <MrRio> JohnnyG: Ok, what is the name of your wireless network card
[03:06] <petriborg> OSB - i'm booted of my HD right now
[03:06] <one_stinky_bum> so dvdrip doesn't work on your hd, but it works on the live CD?
[03:06] <tear> pm MrRio
[03:06] <MrRio> hellokthulu: ah ok, take care, im sure you'll get it sorted :)
[03:06] <linav> does anyone out there used k9copy
[03:06] <JohnnyG> MrRio: I ran a command earlier to tell me, but I've forgotten it - it is an intel centrino
[03:06] <petriborg> well DVDRIP requires a lot of perl packages so no it doesn't run :-)
[03:07] <linuchsan> marinelli59: Hve you got local access to the machine
[03:07] <one_stinky_bum> I'm using canine copy right now
[03:07] <marinelli59> yes
[03:07] <petriborg> OSB - that requires QT right?
[03:07] <droptothetop> does anyone have any experience with dmraid and raid 10?
[03:07] <petriborg> i seem to remember reading that
[03:07] <one_stinky_bum> wait, so it doesn't run on your box, but it runs on the live cd?
[03:07] <linuchsan> what does netstat -ant say...is there a port 22
[03:07] <one_stinky_bum> doesn't make sense
[03:07] <zcat[1] > linuchsan: apparently ssh localhost works, and no firewall that they know off.. got me stumped :)
[03:07] <JohnnyG> found it!
[03:07] <one_stinky_bum> yeah, k9 is a kde app
[03:07] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:~$ lspci | grep Ethernet
[03:07] <JohnnyG> 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5751M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 11)
[03:07] <JohnnyG> 0000:13:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[03:07] <one_stinky_bum> kde == QT
[03:08] <MrRio> tear: Open up synaptic, under System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager, click Setting - >Repositories, click 'Add' and select 'Universe' and 'Multiverse'
[03:08] <marinelli59> well, I keep trying ...
[03:08] <MrRio> tear, Reload the package list, and fluxbox will be there, double-click to install it
[03:08] <linav> one_stinky_bum: did u had any issues using that k9copy
[03:08] <petriborg> OSB - no i don't think i explained clearly, DVDRIP runs on my HD because i've installed all the needed packages, but DVDRIP complains telling me that there isn't enough HD space and df doesn't work
[03:08] <marinelli59> i put   rlogin -l marcelaptop 127.0.0.1
[03:08] <droptothetop> I am getting a message that is something along the lines of "device-mapper: device /dev/sda is too small for target"
[03:08] <marinelli59> i put   rlogin -l marcelaptop 127.0.1.1
[03:08] <one_stinky_bum> nope - linav: canine works just fine
[03:08] <one_stinky_bum> not very intuitive
[03:08] <one_stinky_bum> petri: got it
[03:09] <droptothetop> any ideas?
[03:09] <tear> pm MrRio
[03:09] <Jo-jo> Can anyone tell me nvidiafb is usable under 6.06? I'm having a devil of a time with it. :-S
[03:09] <zcat[1] > marinelli59: rlogin is depricated, use ssh...
[03:09] <MrRio> tear, I just sent you a message
[03:09] <marinelli59> and the machine replies:  ssh: connect to host 127.0.1.1 port 22: Connection refused
[03:09] <linav> one_stinky_bum: canine is something to k9copy
[03:09] <marinelli59> ok zcat
[03:09] <JohnnyG> MrRio: my wifi card is a 0000:13:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[03:09] <petriborg> OSB - but df works correctly from the live CD which is why i think i must have some sort of problem with my system files, corruption or something
[03:09] <MrRio> tear, Did you follow the stuff I said about synaptic
[03:09] <MrRio> ?
[03:09] <one_stinky_bum> petri: but you are sure you have room, right?
[03:09] <linuchsan> marinelli59: ssh user@host
[03:09] <zcat[1] > marinelli59: 'ssh localhost' works or not?
[03:09] <tear> ok
[03:09] <petriborg> OSB absolutely
[03:09] <one_stinky_bum> linav: canine = k9
[03:09] <MrRio> JohnnyG: hey snap!
[03:10] <linav> one_stinky_bum: ok
[03:10] <JohnnyG> MrRio: I don't understand?
[03:10] <marinelli59> yes it works
[03:10] <bretzel> Hi there, I lost sound when I login with my user, before ( in GDM I can ear the sound )
[03:10] <one_stinky_bum> petri: check your temp directory
[03:10] <petriborg> you mean /tmp
[03:10] <HeXiOn> how to change bright, color, and so... of my screen? (gnome)
[03:10] <droptothetop> device-mapper: error adding target to table
[03:10] <droptothetop> is the message
[03:10] <MrRio> JohnnyG: Mine shows up as the same under lspci, ubuntu dapper detected and installed it out the box tho
[03:10] <one_stinky_bum> but you have room anyways... try running from shell: dvdrip
[03:10] <M06w> im trying to install ntfs-3g and when i do the first thing it says to do in the directions i get "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH", can anyone help
[03:10] <MrRio> JohnnyG, Are you using Dapper?
[03:10] <Rehevkor> Hey folks. Does icewm include a file manager? Also, how can I change my file manager?
[03:10] <one_stinky_bum> yeah, tmp
[03:10] <petriborg> OSB yeah thats how i'm running it every time
[03:11] <micahcowan> M06w, what is ntfs-3g?
[03:11] <zcat[1] > but from the other machine 'ssh user@se.rv.er.ip doesn't work?
[03:11] <one_stinky_bum> petri: and it doesn't output anything?
[03:11] <JohnnyG> MrRio: I downloaded Ububtu from the web this morning and I got the most recent stable version
[03:11] <droptothetop> anyone gotten the Sil 3114 to work with dmraid 10?
[03:11] <petriborg> ntfs-3g is a NTFS read/write module for fuse
[03:11] <M06w> a thing that suposedly will let me access my ntfs drives
[03:11] <petriborg> no it doesn't OSB
[03:11] <droptothetop> rather raid 10
[03:11] <petriborg> it doesn't report any errors
[03:11] <droptothetop> under dmraid
[03:11] <zcat[1] > se.rv.er.ip == IP address of server :)
[03:11] <marinelli59> zcat[1]  yes it works
[03:11] <one_stinky_bum> petri: stumped
[03:11] <zcat[1] > ahh good. Problem solved then
[03:11] <micahcowan> M06w, you should use the package instead of try to install by source, whenver possible.
[03:11] <soheil> I am in #gaim
[03:12] <M06w> what packages
[03:12] <M06w> -s
[03:12] <one_stinky_bum> ntfs-3g works best for drives where you can shutdown windows before you unplug
[03:12] <petriborg> yeah so am i OSB :(
[03:12] <one_stinky_bum> petri: sorry mate
[03:12] <petriborg> OSB thanks for trying :)
[03:12] <one_stinky_bum> I can't get ntfs-3g to work with my pocket USB drive
[03:12] <one_stinky_bum> 60GB
[03:12] <soheil> and another question:
[03:12] <petriborg> ntfs3g is great
[03:12] <M06w> well whatever, if theres a better way to do this then tell me how
[03:12] <Ironhand> hello, it seems my Ubuntu for some reason thinks I'm in Australia (AU)... is there any way to change this and have everything that depends on this setting changed too?
[03:12] <one_stinky_bum> no prob petri
[03:12] <tear> tear@tear-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[03:12] <tear> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:12] <tear> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:12] <tear> tear@tear-laptop:~$
[03:12] <M06w> with out givinh me a link
[03:12] <micahcowan> petriborg, is ntfs-3g the same as the "ntfsprogs" package?
[03:13] <one_stinky_bum> ntfs-3g>> ntfsprogs
[03:13] <petriborg> micahcowan - no it is not
[03:13] <petriborg> its not OSB
[03:13] <soheil> every time I log on,I have to execute pon dsl-provider
[03:13] <JohnnyG> tear: when that happens to me I've got synapse open and I'm running the command line. You've gotta close synapse first and then apt-get stuff.
[03:13] <petriborg> it makes use of it, its a driver for it (sort of)
[03:13] <HeXiOn> tear: make sure you haven't synaptic or another apt-get instance running
[03:13] <one_stinky_bum> really>?
[03:13] <petriborg> but it makes lots of changes to it
[03:13] <one_stinky_bum> that's what I read off the site
[03:13] <petriborg> well it does use it but it uses a branch of it
[03:14] <petriborg> so in a way it doesn't
[03:14] <micahcowan> M06w, perhaps there is no package available. If you need building utils for source, install the "build-essential" package by doing "sudo apt-get install build-essential".
[03:14] <bretzel> I lost sound when I login with my user, before ( in GDM I can ear the sound )
[03:14] <M06w> isnt ubuntu suposed to be able to read ntfs
[03:14] <petriborg> and isn't compatible with whats installed in ubuntu by default
[03:14] <tear> tear@tear-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[03:14] <tear> Reading package lists... Done
[03:14] <tear> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:14] <tear> E: Couldn't find package fluxbox
[03:14] <tear> tear@tear-laptop:~$
[03:14] <tear> just terminal running
[03:14] <micahcowan> M06w, yes, reading's no problem. Writing can be problematic.
[03:14] <MrRio> tear: Did you enable universe?
[03:14] <petriborg> m06 - read yes, but ntfs3g is for writing
[03:14] <M06w> i dont need to write
[03:14] <one_stinky_bum> yeah
[03:14] <tear> where is that
[03:14] <M06w> so how do i mount them
[03:14] <one_stinky_bum> writing works... it is also fast
[03:14] <petriborg> yeah ntfs3g is really good
[03:15] <euuuu> hi, will someone pls tell me the shutdown command so that I cand shut down my computer from putty
[03:15] <petriborg> especially for being beta
[03:15] <petriborg> oh this is odd
[03:15] <MrRio> tear, In synaptic (i went thru this earlier, so ill just repaste, one sec)
[03:15] <linuchsan> M06w: mount -t ntfs
[03:15] <micahcowan> !ntfs
[03:15] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:15] <droptothetop> no dmraid experts?
[03:15] <petriborg> hey OSB maybe this is the cause for my problem
[03:15] <droptothetop> device-mapper
[03:15] <MrRio>  tear: Open up synaptic, under System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager, click Setting - >Repositories, click 'Add' and select 'Universe' and 'Multiverse'
[03:15] <HeXiOn> euuuu: sudo halt
[03:15] <MrRio> tear, Reload the package list, and fluxbox will be there, double-click to install it
[03:15] <one_stinky_bum> man ntfs-3g
[03:15] <M06w> is there a way to mount them with out using the terminal
[03:15] <tear> ok
[03:15] <one_stinky_bum> what petri?
[03:15] <euuuu> ty for help
[03:15] <Ironhand> how do I change Ubuntu's idea of where I am?
[03:15] <petriborg> it seems that fuse is having some issues or something because my win-mount is having issues thinking that the windows dir is mounted when it isn't
[03:15] <bla38> euuuu: man shutdown ?
[03:15] <micahcowan> M06w, yes, run the script that's mentioned in the link ubotu just gave.
[03:16] <one_stinky_bum> m06 there are nautilus scripts
[03:16] <euuuu> yes shutdown, not stand by or reboot
[03:16] <one_stinky_bum> search ubuntu forums
[03:16] <JohnnyG> MrRio: should I try shutting down instead of rebooting?
[03:16] <one_stinky_bum> rightclick->mount
[03:16] <droptothetop> Ironhand: set the timezone
[03:16] <one_stinky_bum> oh petri.
[03:16] <Ricesteam> Hi, i just updated wine to 0.9.19 and I'm getting these error when I try to configure Wine's audio: ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed
[03:16] <one_stinky_bum> interesting.... I'm by no means an expert on fuse
[03:16] <djk_> euuuu: open a terminal and type man shutdown ...
[03:16] <^Z3D^> anyone here have any experience "dvdrip"?
[03:16] <petriborg> heh no i'm not either
[03:17] <HeXiOn> euuuu: halt shuts down
[03:17] <petriborg> i wonder if the fuse guys are on this server
[03:17] <djk_> euuuu: or just ' shutdown -h now
[03:17] <MrRio> JohnnyG: its strange, you card should be auto detected, was it working under Windows?
[03:17] <one_stinky_bum> no clue... I've got to find myself some fujitsu tablet pc users
[03:17] <euuuu> ok ty for help ;)
[03:17] <Ironhand> droptothetop: the timezone is already set properly... in everything else however (default locale, apt sources, etc) it seems to think I'm in Australia
[03:17] <one_stinky_bum> need to get my gateway M280 tablet working under 6.06
[03:17] <petriborg> it doesn't right now OSB?
[03:17] <JohnnyG> MrRio: I'm dual booting and the card is working under windows - I could switch to windows, unplug, and hop in here on mIRC no trouble
[03:17] <one_stinky_bum> nope
[03:18] <linuchsan> euuuu: shutdown -h now
[03:18] <M06w> ok, where did it put the script
[03:18] <one_stinky_bum> uses finepoint digitizer, not wacom
[03:18] <one_stinky_bum> everybody talks about tablets and wacom, saying it's all great
[03:18] <one_stinky_bum> nothing working here for finepint
[03:18] <one_stinky_bum> finepoint
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> :)
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> never heard of them
[03:18] <one_stinky_bum> there are drivers for xorg, but nothing coherent
[03:19] <one_stinky_bum> I can cat /dev/ttyS0 and see output
[03:19] <JohnnyG> MrRio: I will power all the way down. I'll be back in 5, hopefully with good news. :)
[03:19] <MrRio> JohnnyG: okay
[03:19] <one_stinky_bum> but I don't know the schema of the data
[03:19] <one_stinky_bum> can't make use of pen data
[03:19] <MrRio> tear, How you getting on installing fluxbox?
[03:19] <tear> now that it is installed
[03:20] <tear> how do you enable
[03:20] <poningru> rjian: hey
[03:20] <rjian> hello poningru
[03:20] <rjian> what will i dot next?
[03:20] <MrRio> tear: logout, and on the login screen, click 'sessions', you can switch between WM's
[03:20] <poningru> rjian: so what are you trying to do exactly?
[03:20] <tear> ok
[03:20] <tear> brb
[03:20] <poningru> trying to sign the ubuntu membership?
[03:20] <MrRio> tear, seeya in a sec
[03:20] <rjian> yup
[03:21] <rjian> i already receive the OpenPGP Key Confirmation what will i do next?
[03:21] <corevette> can anyone help me?
[03:21] <one_stinky_bum> problem vette?
[03:21] <ardchoille> I know there were issues with the 6.06 Desktop CD installer. Have those issues been resolved with the 6.06.1LTS Desktop CD installer?
[03:21] <corevette> one_stinky_bum yeah.....my wireless card is detected...and active.......but i can't get on the internet
[03:21] <poningru> rjian: oh hold on
[03:22] <M06w> is there a simple way to install jave
[03:22] <JohnnyG> MrRio: no luck.
[03:22] <one_stinky_bum> do you have a signal strength meter in the taskbar?
[03:22] <one_stinky_bum> the top panel?
[03:22] <Ricesteam> What is OSS and ALSA? And how do I know which one is compatible with my sound card?
[03:22] <linav> one_stinky_bum:  i get this mutex error in k9
[03:22] <rjian> ah ok poningru
[03:22] <corevette> one_stinky_bum no....but i put the exact same card onto a different ubuntu computer...and it works
[03:22] <visik7> Ricesteam: mostly both
[03:22] <linav> one_stinky_bum:  can u tell me whatz that about, how can i rectify that
[03:23] <one_stinky_bum> can you ping?
[03:23] <tear> hello
[03:23] <visik7> Ricesteam: oss is the old stack many crappy programs still relay on it
[03:23] <corevette> one_stink_bum no
[03:23] <one_stinky_bum> mutex error? never got that
[03:23] <tear> I logged out
[03:23] <one_stinky_bum> how did you install k9?
[03:23] <mangobot> HELP!!! why do i get this error with 3ddesktop?: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!
[03:23] <mangobot> 3ddeskd: Please configure hardware acceleration.  Exiting.
[03:23] <tear> and in
[03:23] <tear> what now?
[03:23] <visik7> Ricesteam: but the default now is alsa or at an higher level gstreamer
[03:23] <one_stinky_bum> vette: ping www.google.com
[03:23] <Whyvas> MERRY XMAS!
[03:23] <one_stinky_bum> in terminal
[03:23] <MrRio> JohnnyG: hmm
[03:24] <mangobot> oh...my vid card is ati radeon mobility 2x rev 2
[03:24] <corevette> one_stinky_bum i'm now known as compusa....so take note of that
[03:24] <linav> one_stinky_bum: mutex destroy failure to be specific
[03:24] <Ricesteam> I can't seem to get both working for Wine 0.9.19
[03:24] <tear> MrRio what now
[03:24] <one_stinky_bum> k
[03:24] <poningru> rjian: huh sorry dude you have to wait for corey
[03:24] <visik7> Ricesteam: run winecfg and configure it
[03:24] <compusa> one_stinky_bum i did that before....but it couldn't ping....hold on...im going to switch to linux
[03:25] <rjian> poningru: y?
[03:25] <droptothetop> any ideas on why device-mapper isn't creating a device node for my raid 10 array?
[03:25] <MrRio> JohnnyG, I'm just searching the web, I'll coome up with something ;)
[03:25] <MrRio> tear, Are you in flux box now?
[03:25] <droptothetop> saying /dev/sda is too small for target
[03:25] <one_stinky_bum> k comp
[03:25] <compusa> one_stinky_bum f.y.i. i'm corevette
[03:25] <JohnnyG> MrRio: is it possible I didn't follow directions properly?
[03:25] <droptothetop> Not sure what that means
[03:25] <tear> ok looks the same
[03:25] <Ricesteam> visik7: yea i ran winecfg, but i can't config much since it only let me choose what to use and what not to use.
[03:25] <mangobot> hellp?
[03:25] <JohnnyG> MrRio
[03:25] <one_stinky_bum> linav: n ever had that k9 problem
[03:25] <poningru> rjian: sorry /me dont know how to...
[03:25] <tear> how do you get in?
[03:25] <MrRio> tear, So you selected 'fluxbox' from the Sessions menu, and clikc ok?
[03:26] <one_stinky_bum> linav: sorry can't help
[03:26] <visik7> Ricesteam: yes this is the default and works (at least for me)
[03:26] <tear> Ill look
[03:26] <MrRio> JohnnyG, It's possible, which instruction swere you following?
[03:26] <rjian> poningru: ah thats ok.. do u know anyone that could help me?
[03:26] <tjb13> how do i upgrade to 6.06.1
[03:26] <tjb13> ?
[03:26] <MrRio> tjb13: keep your system up-to-date as normal
[03:26] <drbreen> tjb13: first you look at /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:26] <tear> where in sessions
[03:26] <JohnnyG> MrRio: when i go into synaps and search for madwifi i show this as ticked "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686
[03:26] <poningru> rjian: yeah just wait for corey
[03:26] <compusa> one_stinky_bum ping: unkown host http://www.google.com
[03:27] <one_stinky_bum> ok
[03:27] <poningru> he will help out as soon as he is done with the uwn
[03:27] <MrRio> tjb13, 6.06.1 was just a point release to make it easier for people to install without having loads of patches applied after
[03:27] <drbreen> tjb13: if there is everywhere "dapper" than everything is ok
[03:27] <MrRio> tear: on the login screen, there is a button called 'Sessions'
[03:27] <visik7> parallels rocks
[03:27] <visik7> really
[03:27] <MrRio> tear, You select your window manager here
[03:27] <JohnnyG> MrRio: yours but I want to make sure I didn't check the wrong thing or something dumb. basically, i check that reboot and it should work from what i'm hearing...I thought it a good idea to check and make sure that was the right one
[03:27] <compusa> one_stinky_bum any other ideas?
[03:27] <one_stinky_bum> compusa: go to system-> administration->networking
[03:27] <rjian> poningru: ah ok.. thnx
[03:27] <linav> one_stinky_bum: one last question, sorry to bother u
[03:28] <PyroManiak> How can I change write permissions for drives? I've got two, one is NTFS(not sure if linux can do this yet), and one is Fat32
[03:28] <one_stinky_bum> k
[03:28] <compusa> one_stinky_bum ok
[03:28] <drbreen> anyone her knows Sstuff 'bout GDM GREETER XML THEMES ?
[03:28] <compusa> one_stinky_bum now what
[03:28] <linav> one_stinky_bum: Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy
[03:28] <linav> *** libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in nav_read.c:202 ***
[03:28] <linav> *** for dsi->dsi_gi.zero1 == 0 ***
[03:28] <linav> VOBU : 0 Read Error !!!!
[03:28] <linav> KCrash: Application 'k9copy' crashing...
[03:28] <linav> Could not find 'drkonqi' executable.
[03:28] <linav> KCrash cannot reach kdeinit, launching directly.
[03:28] <linav> this is the error i get
[03:28] <one_stinky_bum> compusa: what do you see under eth1?
[03:28] <linav> can u think anything wrong here which i am doing
[03:29] <one_stinky_bum> linav: do you have drkonqi?
[03:29] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: under eth0 it's active
[03:29] <petriborg> well i guess the problem is that you need drkonqi :-)
[03:29] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: under ath0 is active....the wireless
[03:29] <linav> i dont have that in syanptic
[03:29] <Rehevkor> is there a file manager in IceWM?
[03:29] <one_stinky_bum> linav: google it
[03:29] <linav> ok so u reckon i need to install drkonqi
[03:29] <linuchsan> droptothetop:what is the module that loads the raid device?
[03:29] <one_stinky_bum> compusa: it says it's active?
[03:29] <linav> Thanks for your help one_sticky_bum
[03:30] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: yes....both
[03:30] <one_stinky_bum> linav: I got mine from synaptic...
[03:30] <MrRio> JohnnyG: modprobe ath_pci
[03:30] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: which is why i'm having trouble
[03:30] <MrRio> JohnnyG, try typing that
[03:30] <Rehevkor> anyone? having trouble finding info on file managers?
[03:30] <linav> oh ok
[03:30] <Rehevkor> er, scratch that last ?
[03:30] <one_stinky_bum> compusa: deactivate and activate agaain
[03:30] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:~$ modprobe ath_pci
[03:30] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:~$
[03:30] <MrRio> JohnnyG, sudo modprobe ath_pci
[03:30] <JohnnyG> kk
[03:30] <one_stinky_bum> comp: both can be active. it's working for me here
[03:30] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: both? wireless and eth?
[03:30] <droptothetop> linuchsan: it's an Sil 3114
[03:30] <one_stinky_bum> comp: just do wireless
[03:31] <droptothetop> linuchsan:
[03:31] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:~$ sudo modprobe ath_pci
[03:31] <JohnnyG> Password:
[03:31] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:~$
[03:31] <MrRio> JohnnyG, anything in networking now?
[03:31] <JohnnyG> no results
[03:31] <droptothetop> linuchsan: for the chip set
[03:31] <one_stinky_bum> comp: do you have the program wifi-radar?
[03:31] <JohnnyG> MrRio: only the 2
[03:31] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: no......i can't download anything due to i can't access the internet
[03:31] <JohnnyG> MrRio: ethernet connection (eth0) and Modem Connection (not configured)
[03:31] <one_stinky_bum> ok
[03:31] <linuchsan> droptothetop:yes
[03:32] <droptothetop> not sure on the exact name
[03:32] <one_stinky_bum> compusa: do you have the network icon that sits in the upper right part of the taskbar?
[03:32] <linuchsan> droptothetop:lspci
[03:32] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: no but i can put it there
[03:32] <one_stinky_bum> please do
[03:32] <one_stinky_bum> when you do, doubleclick on it
[03:32] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: ok i reacivated and still doesn't work
[03:32] <one_stinky_bum> see how many packets sent
[03:32] <droptothetop> linuchsan: is that the name of a module?
[03:33] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: network monitor correct?
[03:33] <petriborg> OH SHIT i know what has to be the problem, anyeone else had problems with the recent update to glibc that ubuntu put out?
[03:33] <jinho> hello- I seem to be missing my grub.conf file from /boot/grub/- how might I be able to replace this?
[03:33] <MrRio> JohnnyG, sudo wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta
[03:33] <one_stinky_bum> yeah
[03:33] <GigaClon> is there a way to enable that filesystems get put on the desktop like they did in Breezy?
[03:33] <linuchsan> droptothetop:no...run lcpci to know the chip
[03:33] <MrRio> JohnnyG: oops, that wont work
[03:33] <JohnnyG> MrRio: johnny@johnny-laptop:~$ sudo wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta
[03:33] <JohnnyG> sudo: wlanconfig: command not found
[03:33] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: should i test the ethernet or wireless
[03:33] <mangobot> ummm... a bit of help here?
[03:33] <one_stinky_bum> the wireless
[03:33] <J-_> how can i get the configuration editor to appear in the panel menu?
[03:34] <one_stinky_bum> should be eth0 or 1
[03:34] <one_stinky_bum> can't remember
[03:34] <compusa> status: idle
[03:34] <MrRio> JohnnyG, can you pastebin the output from iwconfig
[03:34] <varsendaggr> hey how do i find out what kind of video capture cards  work with linux
[03:34] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: received: 79 packets
[03:34] <JohnnyG> MrRio: sure, 2 secs
[03:34] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: sent: 79 packets
[03:34] <one_stinky_bum> sent how many?
[03:34] <one_stinky_bum> oh
[03:34] <one_stinky_bum> bad
[03:34] <Rehevkor> Can anyone please direct me to information on how to install/switch file managers? I'd like to get some kind of file manager running in icewm.
[03:34] <compusa> one_stinky_bum:huh?
[03:34] <trippen> howdy.. i installed Gparted and used it to remove an ntfs partition and creat a new part EXT3 but i cant mount it.. i want to use this new drive as a download drive .. what can i do to make it accessable
[03:34] <one_stinky_bum> the wireless uses DHCP?
[03:35] <J-_> how can i get the configuration editor to appear in the panel menu?
[03:35] <petriborg> see what happens when you can't recompile the world like gentoo? you get broken system utils BAH
[03:35] <compusa>  one_stinky_bum: um...i guess....i'm not familiar with wireless cards
[03:35] <one_stinky_bum> or do you need specific settings?
[03:35] <jinho> hello- I seem to be missing my grub.conf file from /boot/grub/- how might I be able to replace this?
[03:35] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: i think it's configured to
[03:35] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: yeah dhcp
[03:35] <CrazyDoode> Rehevkor: if you want a file manager just install ubuntu and get over it.
[03:35] <one_stinky_bum> how do you usually connect?
[03:35] <one_stinky_bum> ok...
[03:35] <droptothetop> linuchsan: 0000:01:04.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3114 [SATALink/SATARaid]  Serial ATA Controller (rev 02)
[03:35] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: either works
[03:35] <compusa> one_stinky_bum:oh
[03:35] <tear> hello
[03:35] <one_stinky_bum> make sure you pick dhcp
[03:35] <linuchsan> jinho:menu.lst
[03:35] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: um...usually it will just detect it
[03:35] <Sasuke> does anyone know how to write an operating system? or where there is a super good tutorial saying how to write one?
[03:35] <soheil> every time I log on,I have to execute 'pon dsl-provider'
[03:35] <petriborg> jinho you should be able to build one via grub
[03:35] <one_stinky_bum> yeah, that's dhcp
[03:35] <tear> got to fluxbox but could do nothing
[03:35] <petriborg> what linuchasn said
[03:35] <Rehevkor> CrazyDoode: nice attitude. I have ubuntu installed. I'm not a huge fan of nautilus though, so I was hoping someone here actually knew something about the subject.
[03:35] <J-_> how can i get the configuration editor to appear in the panel menu?
[03:35] <Rehevkor> Evidently I was wrong.
[03:35] <GigaClon> is there a way to enable that filesystems get put on the desktop like they did in Breezy?
[03:35] <jinho> petriborg- how might i do that?
[03:36] <tear> but edit toolbar
[03:36] <one_stinky_bum> hmmm.... not sure what to do next.
[03:36] <soheil> every time I log on,I have to execute 'pon dsl-provider'
[03:36] <one_stinky_bum> lemme think a bit comp
[03:36] <soheil> every time I log on,I have to execute 'pon dsl-provider'
[03:36] <CrazyDoode> Rehevkor: nice response.. then why were you talkin about xbuntu?
[03:36] <flash> i cant get my wireless to work using wpa
[03:36] <MrRio> tear: the menu in fluxbox comes up by rightclicking the desktop i think
[03:36] <soheil> why?
[03:36] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: ok...it wasn't on dhcp......so i'm waiting to activate it
[03:36] <one_stinky_bum> ok
[03:36] <tear> all I got was fluxbox
[03:36] <Rehevkor> CrazyDoode: I have ubuntu-desktop installed as well. I'm trying to find a combination of window manager and file manager that suits my needs.
[03:36] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: do you want my ifconfig file?  i posted it on the web
[03:36] <J-_> how can i get the configuration editor to appear in the panel menu?
[03:36] <tear> Ill try it again
[03:36] <one_stinky_bum> ok
[03:36] <petriborg> brb i have to take care of some stuff
[03:36] <soheil> every time I log on,I have to execute 'pon dsl-provider'
[03:37] <Rehevkor> Xubuntu alone isn't enough because Thunar can't navigate network shares.
[03:37] <JohnnyG> MrRio: pastebin isn't loading, its just spinning like its under heavy load
[03:37] <Ricesteam> Ok new problem. When i try to confiure the Audio component via Winecfg I get this errror:
[03:37] <Ricesteam> *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x7c02d788 ***
[03:37] <Ricesteam> wine: Assertion failed at address 0xffffe410 (thread 0009), starting debugger...
[03:37] <soheil> every time I log on,I have to execute 'pon dsl-provider'
[03:37] <CrazyDoode> Rehevkor: try kubuntu
[03:37] <scrappy_> tear: thats all youll ever  need :-)
[03:37] <JohnnyG> MrRio: la, eth0, irda0 and sit0 all say no wireless extensions
[03:37] <one_stinky_bum> make sure it is on dhcp in the system->admin->network
[03:37] <CarlV> Is beagle normally really intensive?  It seems to be using a ton of CPU power every 10 minutes.
[03:37] <Rehevkor> KDE is too heavy for my needs. I'm installing on a moderately old laptop, and I want a snappy interface.
[03:37] <one_stinky_bum> how are ou going to post on the web if you can't connect?
[03:37] <MrRio> JohnnyG, hmm, for future reference theres a ubuntu one at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:37] <JohnnyG> MrRio: bookmarked
[03:37] <soheil> every time I log on,I have to execute 'pon dsl-provider'
[03:38] <trippen>  i installed Gparted and used it to remove an ntfs partition and creat a new part EXT3 but i cant mount it.. i want to use this new drive as a download drive .. what can i do to make it accessable
[03:38] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: don't worry
[03:38] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: i did this a while ago
[03:38] <one_stinky_bum> ok
[03:38] <compusa> i'm going to logg off really fast
[03:38] <droptothetop> linuchsan: I am seeing the device nodes as sda sdb sdc and sdd
[03:38] <soheil> every time I log on,I have to execute 'pon dsl-provider'
[03:38] <one_stinky_bum> k
[03:38] <soheil> ok
[03:38] <scrappy_> trippen: its possible youll have to reboot after creating a partition to use it
[03:38] <soheil> bye room
[03:39] <MrRio> JohnnyG: strange how ath0 isn't there
[03:39] <trippen> scrappy_:  i have several times.. it tells me pmount can not mount this drive.. i dont think there is a mount point.. its just an empty drive with an ext3 system on it
[03:40] <Rehevkor> So, does anyone else have a clue? What alternative file managers are available, and how can I install them?
[03:40] <scrappy_> trippen: 'sudo fdisk -l'   shows it?
[03:40] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: i'm back
[03:40] <one_stinky_bum> k
[03:40] <Whyvas> Rehevkor, I don't think CrazyDoode has any idea about what he's talking about.
[03:40] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20409
[03:40] <Rehevkor> I got that impression.
[03:40] <trippen> scrappy_:  will it know which drive to look at
[03:40] <JohnnyG> MrRio: could my earlier fumblings have disabled it? I tried to install those drivers via deb files and via package manager
[03:40] <CrazyDoode> Whyvas: why would you say that?
[03:40] <J-_> how can i get the configuration editor to appear in the panel menu?
[03:40] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: you got it?
[03:40] <linuchsan> droptothetop:I think you have to recompile the kernel to enable the module that loads the raid device?
[03:40] <scrappy_> trippen: should show all of them
[03:41] <Whyvas> CrazyDoode, because Rehevkor asked for a file manager and you suggested a linux distro
[03:41] <scrappy_> trippen: is this a usb drive or..?
[03:41] <one_stinky_bum> 1 sec
[03:41] <droptothetop> linuchsan: well, the thing is it sees the 4 drives connected to it
[03:41] <droptothetop> linuchsan: and I had it running raid 0 last week
[03:41] <trippen> scrappy_:  no its not.. its a second harddrive
[03:41] <MrRio> JohnnyG, nah, it shouldnt do
[03:41] <trippen> its on the same ide cable
[03:41] <trippen> and yes its set to slave
[03:42] <trippen> and the fdisk -l doesnt show mount points
[03:42] <petriborg> did you do sudo?
[03:42] <CrazyDoode> whaley: you missed the topic he's using xbuntu and i suggested ubuntu.. which are diametricly opposed, and the i suggested kubuntu which is different.. sorry bud, you missed the boat on topic. :)
[03:42] <J-_> trippen:  maybe fs driver will work? not sure about that one though, im just a newb
[03:42] <petriborg> fdisk -l says nothing unless you use sudo
[03:42] <compusa>  one_stinky_bum: i don't really understand though......because i put the exact same wireless card in a different computer and it worked perfectly fine with the same version of ubuntu
[03:42] <bsalt> i'm sorry, i've got a quick question
[03:42] <trippen> what is fs driver
[03:42] <compusa> bsalt: ask away
[03:42] <one_stinky_bum> yeah, it's fishy
[03:42] <scrappy_> trippen: and sudo mkdir /media/hdb1 && sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 doesnt work? im assuming second drive has just one big partition
[03:43] <one_stinky_bum> I don't see anything wrong with the ifconfig
[03:43] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: what should i do?
[03:43] <tear> that didn't work MrRio
[03:43] <Rehevkor> I thought the topic was pretty straightforward myself... how can I change file managers, and what options are available? If I want nautilus, konqueror, or thunar, I wouldn't be here asking about it.
[03:43] <tear> I can log in
[03:43] <one_stinky_bum> not sure... I guess I'm stumped
[03:43] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: i don't quite understand myself
[03:43] <bsalt> does anyone know if the developers are going to implement xgl or aiglx in future releases?
[03:43] <tear> in fliuxbox
[03:43] <MrRio> JohnnyG, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20429
[03:43] <linuchsan> droptothetop:What is your mainbord manufacturer?
[03:43] <MrRio> tear. try #fluxbox
[03:43] <tear> but can't do anything
[03:43] <droptothetop> Shuttle
[03:43] <CrazyDoode> Rehevkor: just install install it from the sources and all is good
[03:43] <trippen> scrappy_:  um.. i dont know if those commands didnt work.. i never seen them befor.. and yes its just one big 10 gig partition thats freashly formatted.. but not mounted
[03:43] <MrRio> tear, I've never really used it
[03:43] <tear> ok
[03:43] <one_stinky_bum> :(
[03:43] <Rehevkor> CrazyDoode: install what? I'm looking for a different file manager.
[03:44] <trippen> and is it /media/hdb1 or /dev/hdb1
[03:44] <droptothetop> linuchsan: Shuttle, the card is an addon pci card
[03:44] <compusa> one_stinky_bum: thats it?
[03:44] <aTypical> bsalt, it's pretty eye-candy.   ;-)
[03:44] <Rehevkor> Something lightweight with network support.
[03:44] <MrRio> JohnnyG: that stuff i've pasted to you, that in my /etc/network/interfaces file
[03:44] <JohnnyG> MrRio: ok
[03:44] <MrRio> JohnnyG, and I have the same card as you
[03:44] <J-_> http://www.fs-driver.org/
[03:44] <Whyvas> heh
[03:44] <MrRio> JohnnyG, so maybe try sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[03:44] <one_stinky_bum> yeah, dunno what to do
[03:44] <Whyvas> again, I think talking to CrazyDoode is useless
[03:44] <one_stinky_bum> config seems fine
[03:45] <one_stinky_bum> kinda stumped
[03:45] <bsalt> Rehkevkor: i know what it is, lol, i'm using it now. it add's some good funcionality. i was just wondering if it'd ever be implemented
[03:45] <droptothetop> this is strange
[03:45] <compusa> ok soo.........can anyone else try to help my network problem?
[03:45] <droptothetop> now its working with 2 drives in a raid 0
[03:45] <JohnnyG> MrRio: clear everything out and put that in or only put it in for one of them? a better question: do I append or must i delete as well
[03:45] <Rehevkor> bsalt: you know what what is? damnit all, this place is confusing.
[03:45] <bsalt> lol
[03:45] <MrRio> JohnnyG: append to the end, don't delete, otherwise you'll have no netowkring
[03:45] <bsalt> sry, i meant to type someone else's name
[03:45] <bsalt> lol
[03:45] <Rehevkor> ahh
[03:45] <Whyvas> Rehevkor, are you asking how to change the file manager too?
[03:45] <scrappy_> trippen: type 'sudo cfdisk /dev/hdb' and see if it is showing up as hdb1
[03:45] <CrazyDoode> Whyvas: hey thanks dr knowledge
[03:45] <MrRio> JohnnyG, , make a backup too
[03:46] <droptothetop> I am configuring this in the bios
[03:46] <droptothetop> btw
[03:46] <Rehevkor> Whyvas: yes
[03:46] <bsalt> atypical: i know what it is, lol, i'm using it now. it add's some good funcionality. i was just wondering if it'd ever be implemented
[03:46] <Rehevkor> and what file managers are available
[03:46] <Rehevkor> aside from the u/k/xubuntu defaults
[03:46] <MrRio> JohnnyG, cp /etc/network/interfaces /home/johnny/interfaces.backup
[03:46] <JohnnyG> MrRio: will do
[03:46] <trippen> it shows it
[03:46] <compusa> anybody familiar with networK?
[03:46] <trippen> scrappy_:  it shows it as a primary linux ext3
[03:47] <Whyvas> i don't know of alternatives, I think that you can change it in the system, preferences then session
[03:47] <Whyvas> what's wrong with nautilus? you think it's too bloated?
[03:47] <CrazyDoode> Whyvas: that's cause you don't know nuthin.
[03:47] <JohnnyG> MrRio: the file is read only, whats the command to change perms?  chperm 777 or something...
[03:47] <compusa> anybody's help i beg!!! i've stumped many people
[03:47] <scrappy_> trippen: if it shows as hdb1 what i would do is add the line /dev/hdb1   /media/hdb1    ext3    default     0     0      add that line to fstab by typing 'gksudo gedit /etc/fstab'
[03:47] <MrRio> JohnnyG, if you use sudo you can edit it, it's chmod 0777 filename
[03:47] <Rehevkor> Whyvas: when I launch Nautilus in icewm, it it takes over my desktop
[03:48] <Whyvas> CrazyDoode, maybe i should just install ubuntu and it'll solve all my problems eh?
[03:48] <JohnnyG> ah, I'll sudo then
[03:48] <Whyvas> ahhh
[03:48] <Rehevkor> Whyvas: the icewm right-click menu no longer works on the desktop, and it changes my background
[03:48] <CrazyDoode> Whyvas: aren't you running ubuntu?
[03:48] <MrRio> JohnnyG, I wouldn't recommend chmod'ing system files tho
[03:48] <compusa> need help from guru ubuntu person !
[03:48] <bsalt> so i'm guessing xgl or compiz won't be implemented in the future?
[03:48] <MrRio> JohnnyG, sudo'ing is much better
[03:48] <Whyvas> CrazyDoode, yes.
[03:48] <farous> can i boot a desktop without a keyboard attaced to it? I only loginto it remotely and it won't boot without the keyboard is there a way to get around that ?
[03:49] <Whyvas> Rehevkor, have you looked at fvwm?
[03:49] <JohnnyG> MrRio: backed up, saved, sudo gedit'd
[03:49] <CrazyDoode> Whyvas: or don't you know the difference between xbuntu and ubuntu?
[03:49] <JohnnyG> MrRio: whats next?
[03:49] <JohnnyG> modprobe again?
[03:49] <Rehevkor> Whyvas: what's that? window manager?
[03:49] <ardchoille> farous: yes, I have one machine that doesn't have a keyboard, mouse or monitor
[03:49] <Whyvas> yeah
[03:49] <CrazyDoode> yeah
[03:49] <CrazyDoode> yeah
[03:49] <Whyvas> not sure what the file manager is
[03:49] <Rehevkor> never heard of it. was just looking at the fluxbox website, actually.
[03:49] <farous> ardchoille: is it a bios setting? how can i manage to do that
[03:49] <bsalt> farous: have you ever tried it with another linux box machine using the remote desktop tool (i.e. in ubuntu)?
[03:49] <Whyvas> i just googled alternative file managers and it came up
[03:49] <MrRio> JohnnyG: yeah :) if this doesn't work and you still have the will to live, i have a plan b
[03:49] <linuchsan> droptothetop:You have do do some more work, by recompiling the kernel
[03:50] <Whyvas> http://www.fvwm.org/screenshots/desktops/
[03:50] <compusa> can anyyyboooddyy answer my question
[03:50] <ardchoille> farous: I've never had to mess with anything related to this.. I just reboot and it works.. never had to touch a setting for it
[03:50] <farous> bsalt: i loginto it remotely perfectly. yet as i removed the keyboard the sys won't boot :(
[03:50] <compusa> my wireless card works in one computer but not the other
[03:50] <trippen> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[03:50] <trippen> #
[03:50] <trippen> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[03:50] <trippen> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[03:50] <trippen> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[03:50] <trippen> /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[03:50] <trippen> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[03:50] <Gog123> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2992183880068262304
[03:50] <trippen> /dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     ext3     default        0         0
[03:50] <trippen> is that what it should look like
[03:50] <MrRio> farous: some bios menus have the option to ignore when a keyboard isn't pluged in, usually hit 'del' to get in, and look around
[03:50] <ardchoille> !paste
[03:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:50] <scrappy_> compusa: just state the question
[03:50] <Gog123> he is gone in the ubuntu days :)
[03:50] <farous> thanx ardchoille ok will try again thanx all for your help
[03:50] <MrRio> trippen: please use pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:50] <JohnnyG> MrRio: johnny@johnny-laptop:/etc/network$ sudo modprobe ath_pci
[03:50] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:/etc/network$
[03:51] <compusa> scrappy_: my wireless card works on one computer but not other
[03:51] <trippen> whats that
[03:51] <scrappy_> Trenton: yes but there is a rule on most irc channels against pasting more than 3 lines
[03:51] <farous> bsalt: and MrRio thax both
[03:51] <farous> exit
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> :)
[03:51] <MrRio> JohnnyG: is you network panel still empty?
[03:51] <ardchoille> !paste > trippen
[03:51] <JohnnyG> MrRio: it does not show. Shall i boot?
[03:51] <trippen> i put it in as one line
[03:51] <MrRio> JohnnyG, nah, you shouldn't have to reboot
[03:51] <droptothetop> linuchsan: any reccomendations on where I should look?
[03:51] <trippen> im sorry im new to ubuntu and linux.. im used to mirc.. and that wouldnt have flooded out like
[03:51] <scrappy_> trippen: type 'ls /media' to make sure a hdb1 directory is showing
[03:51] <droptothetop> linuchsan:
[03:51] <JohnnyG> MrRio: :(   no go then, whats plan B? Although its not working, I'm learning a lot.
[03:51] <scrappy_> trippen: if it is just type mount /media/hdb1
[03:51] <compusa> scrappy_: i stated my question...anything else?
[03:52] <droptothetop> linuchsan: I have tried this with the normal ubuntu kernel
[03:52] <trippen> should i save that file first..
[03:52] <scrappy_> compusa: what card? what other comp is it working on?
[03:52] <MrRio> JohnnyG, plan b is using ndiswrapper, u should remove those lines from the interfaces file
[03:52] <compusa> scrappy_: netgear wg311t
[03:52] <JohnnyG> MrRio: removing now
[03:52] <trippen> all it shows is cdrom and cdrom0 in 2 differnt colors
[03:53] <compusa> scrappy_: both computers are same version of ubuntu...one when you put it in...it works right off the bat, the other when you put it in....it doesn't work but it says it's active
[03:53] <JohnnyG> MrRio: restored backup
[03:53] <scrappy_> compusa: try sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[03:54] <gregmon-pterando> compusa:  My ornery advice is to get knoppix or kanotix live CD and see if the card works with them (iwconfig).  That way you can see if it's insertion error, ubuntu error, etc.
[03:54] <scrappy_> compusa: oh i didnt read your last post yet one sec
[03:54] <compusa> scrappy_: couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-uname -r
[03:54] <scrappy_> compusa: one sec im not on ubuntu
[03:55] <compusa> gregmon-pterando: i'll try that last resort
[03:55] <MrRio> JohnnyG: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:55] <Werdna> I'm having trouble with connecting to a freenx from my windows box.
[03:55] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:/etc/network$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:55] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:/etc/network$
[03:55] <MrRio> JohnnyG, then if you find the card your using in this list http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[03:55] <compusa> scrappy_: ifconfig file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20409
[03:55] <trippen> scrappy_:  all it shows is cdrom and cdrom0
[03:55] <Werdna> diff of config files: http://pastebin.ca/diff.php?id1=127683&id2=128545
[03:55] <gregmon-pterando> compusa:  k.  (Methinks ubuntu will be better desktop experience but those are hardware detection PROs).
[03:55] <Werdna> error: http://pastebin.ca/127665
[03:55] <scrappy_> compusa: youll notice the `` those arent '' they are used to designate a command
[03:56] <scrappy_> trippen: sudo mkdir /media/hdb1
[03:56] <compusa> scrappy_: huh?
[03:56] <JohnnyG> MrRio: that command returned no results, I should still try and find the card?
[03:56] <compusa> scrappy_: what do you mean " those arent "
[03:56] <MrRio> JohnnyG, yep, modprobe only returns errors, no output means success, reassuring eh? ;)
[03:57] <FourPointNine> How do I delete Ubuntu from my computer?
[03:57] <JohnnyG> MrRio: linux still has a ways to go before main stream :)
[03:57] <trippen> scrappy_:  okay it shows up under the ls media thing
[03:57] <JohnnyG> MrRio: its scaring the children
[03:57] <scrappy_> trippen: try sudo mount -a and see if you get any errors
[03:57] <grubedithelp> hi, I'm having some issues with ubuntu, was wondering if I could some advice-  I'm an XP user, just made the switch- I have to disable dma to boot ubuntu, and I'm trying to see if there's a way to get it going, possibly there's a different "mode" to use for it or a way I can setup dma manually.  I'm sure my drive has it.  Can someone give input?
[03:57] <sethk> MrRio, JohnnyG actually, modprobe has an exit code, which does tell you if it succeeded
[03:57] <linuchsan> FourPointNine:dual boot?
[03:57] <MrRio> JohnnyG: lol, this should be autodetected and installed automagically, if only they released opensource drivers for hardware...
[03:57] <petriborg> 4.9, just install whatever over it?
[03:58] <trippen>  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,
[03:58] <trippen>        missing codepage or other error
[03:58] <Rictoo> is ti a good idea to get an antivirus program?
[03:58] <compusa> scrappy_: so am i stuck?
[03:58] <scrappy_> compusa: just cut and paste this line:  sudo apt-get install linux-restriced-modules-`uname -r`
[03:58] <grubedithelp> also need to know how to edit grubs boot options in the mean time so I dont have to manually type in linux ide=nodma
[03:58] <FourPointNine> I already dual boot, I just want to know how.
[03:58] <JohnnyG> MrRio: I'm searching on 0000:13:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[03:58] <JohnnyG> erm, I'm searching on Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[03:58] <petriborg> grubedithelp - you can modify your /etc/fstab
[03:58] <JohnnyG> MrRio: and finding a ton of results, how do i tell which it is
[03:58] <bluefox83> hey, does ubuntu have java in it, or do i need to go download it from the java website?
[03:59] <petriborg> or so i would guess so
[03:59] <compusa> scrappy_: into terminal correct?
[03:59] <scrappy_> compusa: yep
[03:59] <grubedithelp> johnnyg is there an english translation of that :)?
[03:59] <MrRio> JohnnyG: theres lots of drivers for atheros chipsets, you'll need the make/model from windows, since we're going to use the windows drivers to install it
[03:59] <scrappy_> trippen: if you type sudo cfdisk /dev/hdb does the partition show as hdb1?
[03:59] <trippen> yes it does scrappy_
[03:59] <FourPointNine> bluefox83: Check synamptic package manager for it.
[03:59] <linuchsan> FourPointNine:start in dos with a boot floppy and run fdisk /mbr
[03:59] <grubedithelp> <-- linux prompt newb
[03:59] <compusa> scrappy_:yes and it acame up with reading package lists...done
[03:59] <MrRio> JohnnyG, do you know if its a D-link, or intel or something?
[03:59] <JohnnyG> MrRio: so I need to boot into windows and get that from System?
[03:59] <void^> JohnnyG: madwifi drivers didn't work?
[03:59] <compusa> scrappy_:building dpendecy tress.doon
[04:00] <JohnnyG> MrRio: I believe intel
[04:00] <FourPointNine> Oh, ok, thanks.
[04:00] <JohnnyG> void: nope :(
[04:00] <minerale> Hi, what can I use to share files with a mac osx computer in the network ?
[04:00] <compusa> scrappy_: e: couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-uname-r
[04:00] <JohnnyG> Void and MrRio: what kills me is that this guy has the same computer and his did http://www.figuiere.net/linux/tpz60t/
[04:00] <scrappy_> compusa: hightlight and copy my command and paste it in the terminal
[04:00] <petriborg> minerale, i've found it very easy to sahre files via SAMBA (SMB) and SFTP/SSH
[04:01] <MrRio> compusa: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname-r`
[04:01] <grubedithelp> johnnyg I'm on a dual boot- and the XP installation is on my MBR??
[04:01] <scrappy_> compusa: youre missing the `` in `uname -r`
[04:01] <MrRio> compusa, those backticks are important
[04:01] <grubedithelp> master boot record?
[04:01] <void^> JohnnyG: well, i am using a pcmcia "Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)" right now
[04:01] <grubedithelp> <-- really friggin lost
[04:01] <compusa> i know i do that
[04:01] <compusa> scrappy_: single quotes correct?
[04:01] <MrRio> void^, So am I, and it was autodetected, but his just wont show up
[04:01] <compusa> scrappy_: i do that and they disappear
[04:01] <grubedithelp> sorry the GRUB is on my master boot record
[04:01] <MrRio> compusa, backticks
[04:01] <compusa> scrappy_: oohhhh nvm
[04:01] <MrRio> compusa, usually next to the 1
[04:02] <compusa> scrappy_: yeah
[04:02] <JackONeill> I'd like to link my ~/Desktop to /wip - so that on my ubuntu desktop I can see whats in /wip - the 'ln' command is kinda confusing - is it possible to do this?
[04:02] <minerale> petriborg: how can I setup samba?
[04:02] <compusa> scrappy_: e: couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules
[04:02] <scrappy_> trippen: if you type 'sudo umount /dev/hdb1'  and hit enter then type 'sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1' what does it say or do you get no errors?
[04:03] <JohnnyG> MrRio: should i boot to windows and get the exact specs?
[04:03] <void^> JohnnyG: did you look at dmesg?
[04:03] <MrRio> JohnnyG, yeah you should beable to
[04:03] <JohnnyG> void: i'm not sure what dmesg is...
[04:03] <JohnnyG> I'm a bit new around here
[04:03] <trippen> scrappy_:  after typing that in i did not get an error
[04:03] <JohnnyG> you could say i was literally born today :)
[04:04] <scrappy_> compusa: type: uname -r in a terminal and hit enter then type apt-cache search madwifi find the package listed that matches your kernel when you typed uname -r and install that package
[04:04] <scrappy_> trippen: ok so it mounted to /media/hdb1
[04:04] <void^> JohnnyG: run 'dmesg', see if anything suspicious comes up, or just pastebin it
[04:04] <JohnnyG> void: it is huge
[04:04] <JohnnyG> you want the whole thing?
[04:04] <scrappy_> trippen: you just need to tweak the /etc/fstab file so that it does it automatically on bootup
[04:04] <theLOCUST> hello all, i was wondering if anyone is using the powerpc version of ubuntu?
[04:04] <trippen> i dont know what you mean by mounted to.. all i know is when i typed in your commands and hit enter i did not get an error it just went to the next console prompt
[04:05] <MrRio> JackONeill: ln -s /full/path/to/wip /home/username/Desktop/wip
[04:05] <theLOCUST> i can't seem to get my keyboard working properly
[04:05] <grubedithelp> hi, I'm having some issues with ubuntu, was wondering if I could some advice-  I'm an XP user, just made the switch- I have to disable dma to boot ubuntu, and I'm trying to see if there's a way to get it going, possibly there's a different "mode" to use for it or a way I can setup dma manually.  I'm sure my drive has it.  Can someone give input?  I just made the switch yesterday from XP with no prior linux exposure at all.
[04:05] <scrappy_> trippen: if you open your file manager now and go to /media/hdb1 directory the drive you created will be there
[04:05] <JohnnyG> it is so big that i can't paste it all, it runs off my terminal and  $>dmesg | /home/johnny/dmesg.txt  fails
[04:06] <compusa> scrappy_: soo....what do i do from there?  download madwifi?
[04:06] <scrappy_> trippen: linux mounts the devices to directories in order for you to use them
[04:06] <JohnnyG> not sure why
[04:06] <trippen> when i look at the computer section using gnome.. it no longer shows the hdb1 icon.. all i have is cdrom and filesystem now
[04:06] <scrappy_> compusa: not for your card..
[04:06] <JackONeill> MrRio, not good enough i need /wip == ~/Desktop
[04:06] <compusa> scrappy_: so what are you proposing i do
[04:06] <void^> JohnnyG: 'dmesg > dmesg.log'
[04:06] <compusa> scrappy_: i did the commands
[04:06] <MrRio> JackONeill: so your desktop IS the wip folder?
[04:06] <scrappy_> compusa: type uname -r and tell me what it says
[04:06] <compusa> scrappy_:first came up with 2.6.15-23-386
[04:07] <compusa> scrappy_:thas what came up
[04:07] <JohnnyG> void:
[04:07] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:/etc/network$ dmesf > dmesg.log
[04:07] <JohnnyG> bash: dmesg.log: Permission denied
[04:07] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:/etc/network$ sudo dmesf > dmesg.log
[04:07] <JohnnyG> bash: dmesg.log: Permission denied
[04:07] <MrRio> JohnnyG, cd ~/
[04:07] <void^> JohnnyG: 'cd ~', and dmesg, not dmesf
[04:07] <trippen> i can browse.. to /media/hdb1 and under there is something that says lost and found
[04:07] <JackONeill> MrRio, yeah - done it now anyway :P
[04:07] <scrappy_> compusa: ok type sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386
[04:07] <compusa> scrappy_: ok
[04:07] <MrRio> JackONeill, :) good stuff
[04:07] <sethk> JackONeill, you can transfer all the files in Desktop to wip, then remove the Desktop directory and create a symlink of Desktop .  that will do what you are asking
[04:08] <trippen> scrappy_:  is there a way i can make a link on my desktop so it opens right to that directory.. and how can i tell how much free space is left on that drive
[04:08] <JohnnyG> worked, pastebin coming right up
[04:08] <scrappy_> trippen: where did you want the link for your hd to be on your desktop?
[04:08] <JackONeill> sethk, i'm a few minutes ahead of you already - done it :P
[04:08] <scrappy_> trippen: ln -s /media/hdb1 ~/Desktop/hdb1
[04:08] <compusa> scrappy_: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386 is already the newest version.  0 upgraded, 0 installed, 0 removed, 0 upgraded
[04:08] <trippen> scrappy_:  im used to windows.. im used to click on a n icon that says my computer and when i click on it i can see all my drives
[04:08] <JohnnyG> MrRio and Void: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20430
[04:08] <petriborg> grubedithelp - did you get any kind of error?
[04:09] <linuchsan> grubedithelp: have you got a kernel panic when you try to install ubuntu?
[04:09] <grubedithelp> grubedit- no
[04:09] <scrappy_> trippen: bear in mind if you reboot youll have to type sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 in order to use the link
[04:09] <grubedithelp> kernel panic?
[04:09] <scrappy_> trippen: no worries we all had to start somewhere
[04:09] <Nathan1993> My ubuntu system (6.06) is constantly crashing for no reason. My system usually lasts < 1 minute before crashing. Any ideas on what could be the issue?
[04:09] <grubedithelp> I dont even know what that is.  it just hangs when mounting the root file system with dma enabled
[04:09] <MrRio> void^, ath_attach: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware didn't respond as expected' (HAL status 3)
[04:10] <MrRio> void^, that looks like the cause of the problem
[04:10] <compusa> nathan1993: laptop?
[04:10] <linuchsan> grubedithelp: yes...with dma enabled
[04:10] <trippen> scrappy_:  it put an icon on my desktop.. but it has a picture of a lock.. and how can i make the system auto mount that drive.. and if want to save stuff to the drive i would use the path /media/hdb1/
[04:10] <compusa> scrappy_: no more ideas?
[04:10] <Nathan1993> compusa: No, desktop. I think it might have something to do with my TNT2
[04:10] <linuxuser> is the easyubuntu page down?
[04:10] <Nathan1993> compusa: It worked fine before my old graphics card fried.
[04:10] <sethk> trippen, you can add the information to /etc/fstab and it will be mounted at boot time
[04:11] <Nexea> hello
[04:11] <trippen> brb
[04:11] <compusa> nathan1993: make sure it's not overheating hten
[04:11] <grubedithelp> linuchsan:  I was thinking there might be a way to manually configure dma to work with my hard drive.  I'm sure I'm not the first person to have this problem.  And my os is really slow without the dma enabled.
[04:11] <Nexea> can anyone here give me some protocol development advice
[04:11] <Nathan1993> compusa: Slackware works fine. This is slackware that I'm running now.
[04:11] <grubedithelp> Nexea:  yes.  "Efficiency is the key".
[04:11] <sethk> Nexea, that's a rather broad question
[04:12] <grubedithelp> :)
[04:12] <sethk> Nexea, make all your protocols work perfectly  :)
[04:12] <Nexea> lol
[04:12] <petriborg>  ata_piix: the disk shows as /dev/sda and DMA is enabled ?
[04:12] <linuxuser> i like broads
[04:12] <Nexea> ok, i will ask specifics.. i am trying to make my protocol search through a list of all possible users, find a specific user, and then message them
[04:12] <Nexea> i want to know if you guys knew what an ircd server did when someone does a /msg nickname command
[04:13] <void^> JohnnyG: hm, strange. is it an internal pci card?
[04:13] <Nexea> if it just locks a very large linked list and does a linear search
[04:13] <JohnnyG> void: yes, this a thinkpad with a centrino processor
[04:13] <linuxuser> stinkpad
[04:13] <linuchsan> grubedithelp: you mean hdparm -d1 /dev/what_disk_you_have?
[04:13] <sethk> Nexea, what happens on an IRC server is 100 times more complex than what you are describing needs
[04:14] <sethk> Nexea, because there are bunches of servers comprising the logical IRC server
[04:14] <grubedithelp> linuchsan:  I have no idea what that means.
[04:14] <minerale> I added samba, and I am sharing certain folders... albeit when I try to open them and I put my user/password it fails
[04:14] <Exposure> Nexea: check the rfc?
[04:14] <sethk> Nexea, for your question, a linear search is ok as long as you know that the list will never get large
[04:14] <Nexea> i am just asking is my logic behind finding a user correct.. just iterating through a linear search?
[04:14] <petriborg> what system are you connecting to minerale?
[04:14] <petriborg> and whats the command you are using
[04:14] <MrRio> JohnnyG: you still alive?
[04:15] <Nexea> sethk: i would think that my linked list would be as big as there are users on the server
[04:15] <JohnnyG> MrRio: i am, I'm waiting for the next command
[04:15] <sethk> Nexea, it's certainly one way to do it.  It's not answerable until you tell us the maximum number of users, and hopefullly the average as well
[04:15] <linuchsan> grubedithelp: that is to enable dma
[04:15] <sethk> Nexea, logged in users, I assume you mean, not defined users.
[04:15] <MrRio> JohnnyG: ah yes sorry, didn't spot you talking to void
[04:15] <Nexea> yes, that is correct
[04:15] <Nexea> connected sockets
[04:15] <sethk> Nexea, still, that could be 5 or 50 or 500; how would we know?
[04:15] <JohnnyG> MrRio: we show a problem, is there a way to "zoom in" on it or resolve it?
[04:15] <sethk> Nexea, wait, now, there could be many more sockets than users
[04:15] <ooAzzAoo> anyone having troubles getting "gset-compiz" through apt?
[04:15] <MrRio> JohnnyG, looks like this has been submitted as a bug to madwifi
[04:16] <JohnnyG> MrRio: can you please link?
[04:16] <MrRio> JohnnyG: http://madwifi.org/ticket/263 http://madwifi.org/ticket/354
[04:16] <compusa> scrappy_: you still there?
[04:16] <sethk> Nexea, for 10 users, a linear search is ok.  for 100 users, probably not, but of course "ok" depends on the requirements
[04:16] <Nexea> sethk: sorry, let me specify.. sockets will connect.. i will create a list of sockets to iterate through.. when someone wants to message a specific user.. it would iterate through it.. anywhere between 0 users and.. whatever the socket limit is.. i assume 250 ish
[04:16] <void^> JohnnyG: http://madwifi.org/ticket/263
[04:16] <sethk> Nexea, usually the socket limit is 1024
[04:17] <JohnnyG> MrRio: the very bottom of that says they closed it out as solved
[04:17] <sethk> Nexea, but it can be increased
[04:17] <Nexea> hmm
[04:17] <void^> JohnnyG: nvm, i'm too slow =)
[04:17] <Nexea> ok, just around there
[04:17] <Nexea> as the max
[04:17] <MrRio> JohnnyG, void^: I think maybe using ndiswrapper could be a good solution for now
[04:17] <playtime3> I've download ubuntu, if i wanted to make it into a server where do i go to install the server stuff?
[04:17] <^Z3D^> playtime3: they make a server edition
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> playtime3,  use the package manager tools to install the services you need.
[04:17] <sethk> Nexea, It sounds to me like you don't have all the information you might want to have.  So, I would probably use a hash table instead of the linear search.
[04:17] <ooAzzAoo> Can anyone help me with Compiz?
[04:17] <trippen> scrappy_:  i can now see the drive.. but i cant write or delet on it.. and the icon has a picture of a lock on it
[04:17] <Nexea> also, ubuntu for the win.. i love it.. i have a subversion server set up with a ssl cert.. kind of difficult at first.. but i love linux now
[04:18] <JohnnyG> MrRio: the person who said they got it going issued this command: wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta   but my system says wlanconfig not found, do I need to apt-get it?
[04:18] <sethk> Nexea, if you use a hash table unnecessarily, you've added some unjustified complexity but things will work.  If it turns out the linear search is too slow, then the performance could be unacceptable.
[04:18] <Nexea> hmm
[04:18] <sethk> Nexea, so in the absence of complete data, go with the hast table.  It's not difficult to do.
[04:18] <Nexea> sethk: hmm i see
[04:19] <sethk> Nexea, on the other hand, you can code the linear search, and replace it later if it proves to be too slow.
[04:19] <Nexea> sethk: i was just trying to get a feel for what a local, single ircd server or some other variant that has had this problem did
[04:19] <sethk> Nexea, in my experience, once you get lists longer than around 100, or perhaps 200 on a more powerful machine, you'll notice the time for a linear search
[04:20] <scrappy_> trippen: ah just 'sudo chown yourusername /media/hdb1'
[04:20] <sethk> Nexea, that's vague, but as I said it's hard to be more specific without more data.
[04:20] <playtime3> Dr_Willis: Where do i go to find packages manger?
[04:20] <void^> JohnnyG, MrRio: ndiswrapper is probably the best way currently, or you would have to recompile madwifi at least
[04:20] <Nexea> sethk: hmmm
[04:21] <trippen> scrappy_:  so if my username is XYZ then i would type sudo chown XYZ /media/hdb1
[04:21] <JohnnyG> void, MrRio: ok, I need to boot into windows and determine exactly what type of card I have then?
[04:21] <Nexea> sethk: i would have used ircd since it is much more scalable.. but it didnt offer what i needed
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> playtime3,  synaptic is the gui, read the apt-get information on how to use apt-get system.. if running a server - it is worth wile to read some of the ubuntu docs at the ubuntu web site
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[04:21] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:21] <MrRio> JohnnyG, That's the easiest way, because we'll need to install the same windows driver
[04:21] <dm_> Where does one find the programs wine has installed ?  IOW where is the C drive for WINE
[04:21] <Nexea> sethk: so i am going to have to reinvent the wheel as far as scaling my protocol
[04:21] <JohnnyG> MrRio, void: I will boot, determine and return, brb
[04:21] <ACU> hi guys. anyone knows an application which allows you to capture the realmedia or other streams video ?
[04:21] <ardchoille> trippen: sudo chown xyz:xyz /media/hdb1
[04:21] <playtime3> !apt-get
[04:21] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:21] <scrappy_> trippen: yep
[04:22] <void^> JohnnyG: usually most drivers for the same chipset work, but it's safest and easiest to get the correct drivers
[04:22] <sethk> Nexea, if you know it needs to scale, go with a hash table (or some other fast solution) from the beginning
[04:22] <dm_> Where does one find the programs wine has installed ?  IOW where is the C drive for WINE
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> dm_,  a 'fake windows' directory is made in your home dir some where. try  'ls -al' and see if its there.
[04:22] <void^> hrm, i'm definitely too slow today
[04:22] <linuchsan> dm_: dpkg -l |grep wine
[04:22] <MrRio> void^, lol
[04:22] <sethk> Nexea, if you don't know, then you have a choice of possibly overspecifying initially, vs. possibly having to recode later.
[04:22] <trippen> scrappy i went to delete a file and says "/home/trip...lost+found" cannot be deleted because you do not have permissions to modify its parent folder.
[04:22] <MrRio> void^, It's getting really busy in here
[04:22] <sethk> Nexea, by the way, that decision would not, generally, be part of a protocol.  Rather it's an implementation detail.
[04:23] <Nexea> sethk: yeah.. that is a concern.. but i was hoping i could model my protocol after IRC
[04:23] <sethk> Nexea, protocols should be limited (as far as possible) to functionality, not implementation
[04:23] <dm_> Dr_willus thanks i found it
[04:23] <scrappy_> trippen: wont let you delete that file just try to make a directoy and then delete that if it works youre good
[04:23] <sethk> Nexea, because of the distributed nature of irc, I don't think it's a good model for what you want to do.
[04:23] <trippen> yes but i dont want the file there.. it just says lost and found and its red it says its a directory
[04:23] <scrappy_> trippen: if you want to get rid of it sudo rm -fr /media/hdb1/directoryname will work
[04:23] <sethk> Nexea, there certainly should be other implementations that are closer to your requirements.
[04:23] <Nexea> sethk: why wouldn't it be? i mean it seems to do a good job at being scalable.. that's what im in it for right?
[04:24] <scrappy_> trippen: be very careful with that command
[04:24] <`Capo`> .
[04:24] <`Capo`> how to convert .doc files to postcript?
[04:24] <`Capo`> .
[04:24] <`Capo`> .
[04:24] <noidontwanna> im very new to linux and even newer to ubuntu, so forgive me if this question is extremely n00bish. i want to install ubuntu to its own partition, around 10 gigs, but instead of using grub to dualboot that and windows, i want to burn a cd that will load that partition when i tell it to, but otherwise the computer always loads windows. how can i do this?
[04:24] <erdrick> so the latest ati radeon drivers are broken can someone tell me how to install the previous onces everytime i do it it screws up my sorg
[04:24] <RSL> Is there a way to regain information off a partition or is it all deleted?
[04:24] <`Capo`> .
[04:24] <`Capo`> .
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> print them to a postscript printer :P is one way.
[04:24] <sethk> Nexea, because the methods used in an IRC server would be I'd guess an order of magnitude more efficient that the requirements for doing something similar on a single server.
[04:24] <`Capo`> how to convert .doc files to postcript?
[04:24] <`Capo`> i need to use the file with efax
[04:25] <sethk> Nexea, the servers have to keep track of the _route_ to a user, not just the users name
[04:25] <`Capo`> efax-gtk
[04:25] <sethk> Nexea, and the servers have to route messages from one server to another, not only from server to user
[04:25] <`Capo`> i need to fax microsoft documents , but first i have to convert them to postscript
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> noidontwanna,  you can set grub to default to windows.
[04:25] <Nexea> sethk: yeah.. thats what i was hoping my protocol could do.. eventually
[04:25] <Nexea> somehow
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> noidontwanna,  or ya can easially make a boot floppy that will boot the linux system
[04:25] <trippen> scrappy_:  thank you.. it removed it perfectly..
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> noidontwanna,  a cd is a little  harder to do.
[04:25] <playtime3> Dr_Willis: can u please give me that link again
[04:25] <Whyvas> noidontwanna, you could just use knoppix
[04:25] <sethk> Nexea, if irc is really a good match, then sure, use it as a model, that's reasonable.
[04:25] <Nexea> sethk: i am still in the designing stage and already it has proved to be difficult
[04:26] <noidontwanna> i dont have a floppy drive :|
[04:26] <Geoffrey2> has anyone had any problems with their keyboard acting strange under Ubuntu....I
[04:26] <sethk> Nexea, I know that an IRC server is not using linear searches.
[04:26] <MrRio> `Capo`: open them in openoffice, that will convert to pdf, or you can use the print dialog to output as plain old postscript
[04:26] <scrappy_> trippen: you might take a look at wiki.ubuntu.com and search for mount or something what we did isnt really kosher
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> playtime3,  ya mean  ' !apt ' ? type it. and the bot will tell ya.
[04:26] <wickedly_cool> has anyone heard of a waveplus wp1200 wireless pci card?
[04:26] <scrappy_> trippen: but will work fine
[04:26] <sethk> Nexea, but I also know that an irc server is dealing with thousands, and perhaps 10's of thousands, of users.
[04:26] <noidontwanna> i tried knoppix and i cant get used to kde
[04:26] <playtime3> Dr_Willis: can u please give me that link again
[04:26] <Brokenstein> noidontwanna: im a linux noob too and i think the best thing to do is scrap windows and not look back
[04:26] <playtime3> oppss
[04:26] <Nexea> sethk: hmm
[04:26] <playtime3> !apt
[04:26] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:26] <trippen> what do ya mean kosher.. it works.. thats good enough for me
[04:26] <b_> hi guys how do i make a program start up when i login, i want gaim to start when i login how do i do that
[04:26] <linuchsan> noidontwanna:
[04:26] <noidontwanna> windows is a hell of a lot easier for me right now then linux
[04:27] <Geoffrey2> I'll be typing along and all of a sudden the curser will jump back to the middle of the line I was typing....sometimes it'll fly halfway up the screen
[04:27] <noidontwanna> if i get fully used to linux then i will definately get rid of it
[04:27] <`Capo`> MrRio, i can convert them to pdf in openoffice, but i need them in .ps format
[04:27] <noidontwanna> but for now....
[04:27] <wickedly_cool> b_ try msconfig
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> noidontwanna,  depends.. i find linux much easier now that i learned the fundamentals.
[04:27] <linuchsan> noidontwanna: oeps
[04:27] <`Capo`> MrRio, before i can fax them with efax
[04:27] <wickedly_cool> has anyone heard of a waveplus wp1200 wireless pci card?
[04:27] <noidontwanna> exactly
[04:27] <b_> WHATTTTTTTTTTTTt
[04:27] <Nexea> yes.. sudo is my friend
[04:27] <Nexea> lol
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> noidontwanna,  flexablity vs lockeddown.
[04:27] <Brokenstein> ya i believe that but you wouldnt believe how much better it is than only 2 years ago!
[04:27] <Whyvas> b_, System, preferences, session
[04:27] <MrRio> `Capo`: as i said, the print dialog can 'print' to a file, thats just plain postscript
[04:27] <noidontwanna> when i get the hang of linux ill use linux by itself
[04:27] <ooAzzAoo> Anyone know if quinn's compiz repo's are broken?  i can't get gset-compiz... "broken packages"... show stopper
[04:27] <b_> msconfig, what a clown lol
[04:27] <wickedly_cool> hehe
[04:28] <scrappy_> trippen: have fun ubuntu is really great once you get used to a little linux stuff
[04:28] <Nexea> sethk: well thanks for your input
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> it was amazing how much linux has improved in the last 9+ years.
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> :P
[04:28] <Brokenstein> yeah im still trying to find a good replacement for winamp
[04:28] <Nexea> sethk: i appreciate it
[04:28] <Whyvas> noidontwanna, then use the ubuntu dapper liveCD
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> Brokenstein,  i just use xmms.
[04:28] <`Capo`> MrRio, oh i see, cool thanks
[04:28] <wickedly_cool> yeah ubuntu rocks
[04:28] <wickedly_cool> but i still crashed in it in the first week of the first installation
[04:28] <Brokenstein> no joke
[04:28] <noidontwanna> thats what im running now....
[04:28] <MrRio> `Capo`, set 'Location' to 'File'
[04:28] <linuchsan> noidontwanna: why do you want to boot from a cd?
[04:28] <noidontwanna> because i dont have a floppy drive
[04:28] <wickedly_cool> its easy
[04:29] <wickedly_cool> has anyone heard of a waveplus wp1200 wireless pci card?
[04:29] <noidontwanna> and i hear a lot of people saying they get errors with your computer setting up grub
[04:29] <Brokenstein> noidontwanna have you checked out automatix yet?
[04:29] <ex-parrot> if I'm using dd to copy an LVM volume, will it stop when it gets to the end of the volume or do I need to tell it how big the volume is?
[04:29] <minerale> how does ubuntu work with samba? In System > Administration > SHared folders I have listed two folders that are shared with samba, I have samba working, and when I connect from another computer to the samba service, I only get the printed listed and not the folders
[04:29] <noidontwanna> automatix?
[04:29] <ardchoille> Brokenstein: Please do not recommend automatix in this channel
[04:29] <noidontwanna> never heard of it
[04:29] <noidontwanna> what is it
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> noidontwanna,  grub is a very flexable and  developed system. It can have issues.. and it can also work like a champ.
[04:29] <Brokenstein> ok sorry
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> automatix dont have diddle to do with grub as far as i know. :P
[04:30] <scrappy_> noidontwanna: grub is really the best solution and what youll use even if you go cd route anyway you can have it boot windows automatically unless you hit esc during boot
[04:30] <b_> thank you
[04:30] <wickedly_cool> yeah grub helped me crash the first installation
[04:30] <noidontwanna> what does it do
[04:30] <wickedly_cool> into a kernel panic
[04:30] <Brokenstein> well im not supposed to recommend it
[04:30] <MrRio> Dr_Willis: i sincerly hope they dont
[04:30] <wickedly_cool> i was trying to recompile the kernel for my nvidia drivers
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> wickedly_cool,   PEBKAC  'problem exists betweek keyboard and chair'
[04:30] <scrappy_> noidontwanna: or you could put smart disk boot manager maybe on the cd
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> Lol.
[04:30] <noidontwanna> whats that?
[04:31] <noidontwanna> jesus i feel like such a noob right now
[04:31] <Brokenstein> google is your friend
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> noidontwanna,  automatix is a script that 'helps' set up some things.. it can also break some things.. so avoide it.
[04:31] <scrappy_> noidontwanna: i havent used it in a while its normally loaded on a floppy but i imagine there is a cd image youll have to google it
[04:31] <`Capo`> MrRio, that worked great, thanks, i did a test fax just to make sure
[04:31] <ACU> any sugestions for application for capturing realmedia stream ?
[04:31] <JohnnyG> void, MrRio: it didn't say much past "11a/b/g wireless LAN Mini PCI Express Adapter" by Atheros Communications
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> noidontwanna,  GRUB is one of those things - thats well worth learning all about.
[04:31] <noidontwanna> well im more confused now then when i joined this channel
[04:31] <noidontwanna> so ill just google it
[04:31] <dasos> I installed ftpd and sshd, and i have the proper ports forwarded to my computer, but i get connection refused whenever i try to connect to my computer
[04:31] <MrRio> `Capo`, No problem :)
[04:32] <ooAzzAoo> anyone have a good link for setting up xgl/compiz... there are so many i don't know what's too old to use
[04:32] <dasos> does ubuntu have a default firewall that i'm not seeing?
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> noidontwanna,  'just google it' ---> you are learning allready! see :P
[04:32] <MrRio> JohnnyG: ah, ok, what's ur laptop make?
[04:32] <JohnnyG> Lenovo Thinkpad Z60t
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> dasos,  linux has firewalling features built in.
[04:32] <Geoffrey2> noidontwanna, Automatix is, from what I've heard...an automated setup and configuration script for ubuntu...but I've heard lots of horror stories in here about it breaking things badly...as such, people in here generally reccomend it not be used....
[04:32] <noidontwanna> heh
[04:32] <scrappy_> noidontwanna: best thing is just to install ubuntu to the partition and let it set everything the way it wants you shouldnt have any errors and grub is very easy to fix
[04:32] <Brokenstein> can anybody suggest a media player that supports a winamp-style media library/organizer?
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> dasos,  but theres no fancy firewall gui installed by default.
[04:32] <Whyvas> dasos, get firestarter
[04:32] <ooAzzAoo> dasos, are the services running?
[04:32] <dasos> i don't want to get one, i just want to connect to the ftp server
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> Brokenstein,  xmms dont do that? try the beep-media-player also.
[04:32] <dasos> yeah, i can ssh localhost just fine
[04:33] <HeXiOn> hello
[04:33] <dasos> but if i ssh my ip address it doesn't go through
[04:33] <dasos> (wan address)
[04:33] <HeXiOn> how can I see the time from console?? (need for a shell script)
[04:33] <Brokenstein> well it appears does playlists, but where is the organizer?
[04:33] <dasos> i set a static ip address in networking administration, and have the dmz to that address
[04:33] <MrRio> JohnnyG: Use the IBM atheros driver from that page then, one sec, i'll rsutle up the link
[04:34] <dasos> only think i can think of is that ubuntu is blocking it, and i can't find where
[04:34] <Brokenstein> lotta ppl recomment xmms im just not seeing the one specific feature im looking for (yet)
[04:34] <scrappy_> HeXiOn: date command
[04:34] <Whyvas> xmms is the shit.
[04:34] <HeXiOn> thank you scrappy_
[04:35] <angel> hi all.. i have a problem.. the sound doesn't work.. can someone plz help me?
[04:36] <linuchsan> angel: what does lcpci say
[04:36] <compusa> scrappy_: oh well....thanks for the help...if you find anything my email is: corevette@gmail.com
[04:36] <angel> when i try to test the sound, i cant hear anything..
[04:37] <MrRio> JohnnyG, http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/license.do?filename=mobiles/1qwc70ww.exe
[04:38] <JohnnyG> MrRio: when I click I agree nothing happens
[04:38] <JohnnyG> its like its an IE only javasript..
[04:38] <JohnnyG> do you show same?
[04:38] <MrRio> JohnnyG, I get a popup, then redirects to the download
[04:38] <scrappy_> compusa: i wasnt really pleased with wireless on dapper if you drop ubuntu because of it check out edgy again in october maybe some of it will have been addressed
[04:38] <one_stinky_bum> anyone familiar with tablet pcs?
[04:39] <linuchsan> angel: system>>konsole Then run lspci
[04:39] <KrisWood> ok I know this is a stupid question, but how do I restart xinetd without rebooting?
[04:39] <JohnnyG> MrRio: I'll add IBM to the "you can popup" list
[04:39] <MrRio> JohnnyG, http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-55359
[04:39] <MrRio> JohnnyG, maybe it only works when clicking it from here
[04:39] <one_stinky_bum> trying to get a non-wacom digitizer to work
[04:39] <JohnnyG> ok, that has been downloaded
[04:40] <compusa> scrappy_: i'm not really sure.......because ....i ran dapper on a  different computer with same network card and it worked....which made me fish
[04:40] <compusa> scrappy_:*fishy
[04:40] <JohnnyG> MrRio: run it?
[04:40] <scrappy_> compusa: this is an internal card or pcmcia?
[04:40] <compusa> scrappy_:pcmcia
[04:40] <lastnode> im trying to share a torrent between windows and ubuntu. im using utorrent, and gnome-btdownload to pick up from where it has left off. is there a way do to this?
[04:40] <scrappy_> compusa: are the lights working at all?
[04:43] <MrRio> JohnnyG: sudo apt-get install extract
[04:43] <Rehevkor> Does anyone know of a lightweight file manager with network support, or a window manager that includes one?
[04:43] <compusa> scrappy_: sorry i just got disconnected...but i was saying i'm not sure what to do when i get knoppix on
[04:43] <linuchsan> lastnode: With Azureus you can.
[04:43] <lastnode> Rehevkor, try the xfce window manager. i forget what it's called
[04:43] <MrRio> JohnnyG, nah, sorry forget that
[04:43] <Rehevkor> lastnode: it uses the Thunar file manager, which can't navigate network shares
[04:43] <Rehevkor> no good for me
[04:44] <MrRio> JohnnyG, I can't figure out which driver you'll need
[04:44] <JohnnyG> MrRio: that process has started, so I guess I'll get extract
[04:44] <MrRio> void^, you still about?
[04:44] <compusa> scrappy_: so you have any ideas before i do that?
[04:44] <JohnnyG> MrRio: are you searching for z60t window drivers? thats a search I can help with
[04:44] <earthsound> is VLC no longer available for Ubuntu? I tried following the instructions on http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html but it wasn't found
[04:44] <MrRio> JohnnyG: yeah i am
[04:45] <MrRio> JohnnyG, they could even be sitting on a driver disc
[04:45] <JohnnyG> MrRio: http://www-3.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-52527
[04:45] <JohnnyG> that it/
[04:45] <JohnnyG> ?
[04:45] <scrappy_> compusa: type 'lspci -v | less' and look at the output for your card
[04:45] <erdrick> what is the command to find out what version of x.org i have
[04:45] <shadeofgrey> hey everybiody
[04:45] <tear> hello
[04:45] <linuchsan> earthsound: yes it is
[04:45] <agwibowo> hello.... i just set up a new partition in windows... but i dont know how to make it so that the partition automatically gets displayed on my ubuntu desktop.. (currently there are 2 windows partition there that automatically gets mounted on boot)
[04:46] <MrRio> JohnnyG, yeah, that looks like the fella
[04:46] <tear> anyway to generate a menu for fluxbox?
[04:46] <JohnnyG> ok, downloading
[04:46] <MrRio> JohnnyG, one day all this will 'Just Work(tm)'
[04:46] <roostishaw> anyone, where can i find a set of reccommended specs for using xgl/compiz? anyone know off the top of their head?
[04:46] <shadeofgrey> whats the best program available for ubuntu that can rip an entire audio CD to 320kbps .mp3 files?  i make digital copies of all my CD's so that i dont need the CD's to listen to my music and that way i never have to worry about CD's being scratched
[04:47] <JohnnyG> MrRio: I've pulled those drivers down, whats next?
[04:47] <linuchsan> agwibowo:man fstab
[04:47] <earthsound> linuchsan: guess I need to recheck sources.list and make sure I uncommented the universe sources...
[04:47] <HeXiOn> help with shell scripts please.... if I do echo "BLABLABLA" > file  it overwrites it's content. How can I append the text to a new line in "file" ???
[04:47] <agwibowo> linuchsan: thx
[04:47] <compusa> scrappy_: what did |less do?
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> HeXiOn,  bash fundamentals man. :P  use  >>
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> HeXiOn,  google for a few bash tutorials. and that advance bash scripting guide.
[04:48] <HeXiOn> Dr_Willis, thanks, I'm starting ;)
[04:48] <HeXiOn> ok, I'll do
[04:48] <HeXiOn> thank you
[04:48] <linuchsan> earthsound: yes...vlc - multimedia player for all audio and video formats
[04:48] <matgates> Is there an editor which does syntax-hints for C & C++ (displays parameters of a function etc.)?
[04:48] <scrappy_> compusa: you dont need it it basically pipes the output of lspci -v through the less application less is just used in a terminal to scroll through files
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> HeXiOn,  theres also a 'noclobber' option that can pervent the overwriting I think
[04:48] <zovirl> is nvidia's Cg SDK available through apt?  I can't find it using aptitude search
[04:49] <sethk> Dr_Willis, that's correct
[04:49] <MrRio> JohnnyG, cabextract 77<tab>
[04:49] <compusa> scrappy_:where would it be?
[04:49] <sethk> Dr_Willis, not strictly ksh, I believe, but zsh and I think bash have it.
[04:49] <sethk> Dr_Willis, originally a csh thing
[04:49] <JohnnyG> MrRio: when I tab my computer beeps and does nothing
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> sethk,  heh - ive been testing out 'fish' for my shell lately
[04:49] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:~$ cabextract 77<tab>
[04:49] <MrRio> are you in the folder you downloaded the file to?
[04:49] <roostishaw> anyone, where can i find a set of reccommended specs for using xgl/compiz? anyone know off the top of their head?
[04:49] <JohnnyG> doh...no I'm not
[04:49] <JohnnyG> 2 secs
[04:49] <MrRio> JohnnyG, cd Desktop
[04:49] <sethk> Dr_Willis, don't know it.
[04:50] <matgates> Is there an editor which does syntax-hints for C & C++ (displays parameters of a function etc.)?
[04:50] <scrappy_> compusa: do you have any lights on the card?
[04:50] <evan_w00> is this the main ubuntu irc chat?
[04:50] <compusa> scrappy_:yes
[04:50] <sethk> matgates, many, yes
[04:50] <evan_w00> ohhh
[04:50] <scrappy_> compusa: they are lit up at least one?
[04:50] <matgates> sethk: Like what?
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> sethk,  i just like how it color codes as i type.. so i see my stupid typos. :P
[04:50] <sethk> matgates, emacs and vim both do it.  anjuta is an IDE that of course does it.
[04:50] <compusa> scrappy_: yes
[04:50] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:~/Desktop$ cabextract 77wc38ww.exe bash: cabextract: command not found
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> Install it? :P
[04:51] <matgates> sethk: I don't think so.  emacs will complete to the end of tab with the context completion, but it won't show you the parameters of a function.  neighter will vim.
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> !info cabextract
[04:51] <ubotu> cabextract: a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1-1 (dapper), package size 43 kB, installed size 144 kB
[04:51] <sethk> matgates, ok, I was thinking about highlighting
[04:51] <JohnnyG> installing...
[04:51] <sethk> matgates, anjuta will do the arguments
[04:51] <matgates> sethk: thanks!
[04:51] <sethk> matgates, there is a c/c++ plug in for eclipse.  It may be usable (it wasn't when I tested it but that was quite some time ago)
[04:52] <MrRio> JohnnyG: you'll need unshield too
[04:52] <JohnnyG> MrRio: all done, no errors, whats next?
[04:52] <M06w> whats rpm
[04:52] <JohnnyG> MrRio: unshield installed
[04:52] <compusa> scrappy_: i'm not sure where to find it on the page though
[04:52] <scrappy_> compusa: if you type 'iwlist ath0 scan' does it display available access points?
[04:53] <JohnnyG> MrRio: also, this thing is scattered all over my desktop, where do you typically stash stuff like this in linux?
[04:53] <MrRio> i usually make temporary directories in my home dir
[04:53] <sethk> M06w, rpm is the redhat/fedora package manager
[04:53] <MrRio> of course you could use /tmp aswell
[04:54] <M06w> so i dont use rpm
[04:54] <compusa> scrappy_: ath0                 failed to read scan data : resource temporarily unavailable
[04:55] <`Capo`> what's a nice replacement window manager for ubuntu
[04:55] <MrRio> JohnnyG: ive fully extracted all that, I can't see any inf files in there, bugger
[04:55] <`Capo`> man, i dont like gnome
[04:55] <compusa> kde
[04:55] <ripper> gnome r0x
[04:55] <compusa> kubuntu
[04:55] <scrappy_> compusa: have you rebooted since downloading restricted modules? you absolutely shouldnt have to but..
[04:55] <compusa> scrappy_: it never downloaded
[04:55] <JohnnyG> MrRio: sometimes the inf shows up when you run the setup file, should i run that?
[04:55] <compusa> scrappy_: it said i already had the newest version
[04:56] <scrappy_> compusa: what kind of processor do you have a pentium?
[04:56] <ripper> i love my $150 gnome theme
[04:56] <scrappy_> compusa: ah
[04:56] <JohnnyG> also, I show a NET5211.inf file in the WINXP_2k folder
[04:56] <scrappy_> compusa: nm
[04:56] <ripper> i love my $150 black paint gnome theme **
[04:56] <compusa> scrappy_: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386 is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 installed, 0 removed, 0 upgraded
[04:56] <JohnnyG> MrRio: also, I show a NET5211.inf file in the WINXP_2k folder
[04:56] <MrRio> JohnnyG: ah, its ok found it, unshield x DATA1.CAB
[04:56] <compusa> scrappy_: amd f.y.i.
[04:56] <MrRio> JohnnyG, yeah just spotted it :)
[04:56] <tear> how do you create a menu to use in fluxbox????
[04:56] <JohnnyG> MrRio: that ran no errors, what did i just do?
[04:57] <MrRio> JohnnyG, extracted that cab, although im not sure u needed to,
[04:58] <compusa> scrappy_: what does it mean by pci bridge on 'lspci -v'
[04:58] <MrRio> JohnnyG, cd WINXP_2K
[04:58] <ripper> nano /home/user/.fluxbox/menu
[04:58] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:~/Desktop$ cd WINXP_2K
[04:58] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:~/Desktop/WINXP_2K$ ls
[04:58] <JohnnyG> AR5211.SYS  NET5211.CAT  NET5211.INF
[04:58] <MrRio> JohnnyG, there should be AR5211.SYS  NET5211.CAT  NET5211.INF
[04:58] <MrRio> :)
[04:58] <scrappy_> compusa: well id do 'sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-26-k7 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-k7' it wont help really but it is the best kernel
[04:58] <M06w> what is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[04:58] <ripper> i used to use fluxbox, fluxmod 0wnz
[04:58] <ripper> one uses gnome, the other kde
[04:59] <M06w> and that means
[04:59] <MrRio> JohnnyG, sudo ndiswrapper -i NET5211.INF
[04:59] <ripper> gnome and kde are window managers
[04:59] <ripper> kde is too bloated if you ask me
[04:59] <EnsignRedshirt> ripper: Not exactly.
[04:59] <ripper> gnome is nice D:
[04:59] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:~/Desktop/WINXP_2K$ sudo ndiswrapper -i NET5211.INF
[04:59] <JohnnyG> sudo: ndiswrapper: command not found
[04:59] <`Capo`> i have this in my notebook:
[04:59] <`Capo`> 0000:05:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[04:59] <ripper> EnsignRedshirt: what ya mean?
[04:59] <`Capo`> how can i get it to work
[04:59] <compusa> scrappy_: it couldn't find the image but whatever
[04:59] <EnsignRedshirt> Gnome and KDE are not window managers.
[05:00] <ripper> true
[05:00] <ripper> metacity is gnomes window manager
[05:00] <MrRio> JohnnyG, sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[05:00] <scrappy_> compusa: might check ubuntuforums for your card
[05:00] <ripper> they are desktop environments :D
[05:00] <MrRio> JohnnyG, I forget how little ubuntu comes with these days
[05:00] <ripper> im not sure what kde uses for a window manager
[05:00] <JohnnyG> MrRio: I will do that. I've got a question though, what happens to the person who doesn'tknow that off hand? how does he look it up?
[05:00] <ripper> since i despise kde
[05:00] <linuxuser> kde sucks anyways
[05:00] <compusa> scrappy_: listen though.......this card works on other computers in my house on ubuntu
[05:00] <Whyvas> `Capo`, i think there's a broadcom driver for that chipset in the package manager
[05:00] <ripper> yeah it does @ linuxuser
[05:01] <linuxuser> xfce isnt bad tho
[05:01] <compusa> scrappy_: i don't think it's hardware because my ethernet is detected as well
[05:01] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:~/Desktop/WINXP_2K$ sudo ndiswrapper -i NET5211.INF Installing net5211
[05:01] <MrRio> JohnnyG, i either look in synaptic, or type apt-cache pkgnames | grep ndis
[05:01] <JohnnyG> that completed successfully
[05:01] <scrappy_> compusa: assuming its dapper on all computers and you havent done any driver installs on the other ones.. just not sure
[05:01] <`Capo`> Whyvas, ifconfig -a : http://pastebin.ca/128605
[05:01] <JohnnyG> whats the diff bt apt-get and apt-cache
[05:02] <compusa> scrappy_: if the other one was intel and this was amd...would it make  adifference?
[05:02] <JohnnyG> and also, I never seem to be able to locate the proper bloody repository
[05:02] <MrRio> JohnnyG, apt-cache pkgnames will list all packages, and | will pipe it into grep, grep is a tool for searching text
[05:02] <scrappy_> compusa: id lean to hardware if it works with knoppix then youd know its a OS problem at least
[05:02] <compusa> scrappy_: yeah
[05:02] <sethk> compusa, a pci bridge is a piece of hardware on the motherboard, typically interfacing between the PCI connectors and the internal PCI bus
[05:02] <MrRio> JohnnyG, sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:03] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:~/Desktop/WINXP_2K$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:03] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:~/Desktop/WINXP_2K$
[05:03] <pp> Ubuntu has installed nicely on my apple powerbook g4, airport and touchpad work!!
[05:03] <MrRio> JohnnyG, with a bit of luck, this won't crash, and the device will now appear in the networking window
[05:03] <JohnnyG> Network settings still showing only 2
[05:03] <MrRio> bugger
[05:03] <Whyvas> `Capo`, iwconfig ?
[05:03] <davey_> how can I get democrasy player working correctly in amd64
[05:03] <JohnnyG> run dmesg > dmesg.log?
[05:04] <compusa> scrappy_: how about ndiswrapper?
[05:04] <Whyvas> `Capo`, do you have the bcm43xx-fwcutter package installed?
[05:04] <MrRio> JohnnyG: what does iwconfig output
[05:04] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:~/Desktop/WINXP_2K$ iwconfig
[05:04] <JohnnyG> lo        no wireless extensions.
[05:04] <JohnnyG> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[05:04] <JohnnyG> irda0     no wireless extensions.
[05:04] <JohnnyG> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[05:04] <davey_> I have it installed, but it doesn't boot
[05:04] <JohnnyG> MrRio: should I add those lines of your config back into my config?
[05:05] <`Capo`> Whyvas, how do i install that
[05:05] <Whyvas> in the package manager
[05:05] <Whyvas> synaptic
[05:05] <Whyvas> `Capo`, what
[05:05] <Whyvas> 's the output of iwconfig?
[05:06] <MrRio> JohnnyG, sudo rmmod ndiswrapper
[05:06] <MrRio> JohnnyG, sudo rmmod ndiswrapper
[05:06] <compusa> scrappy_:   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143513 check it out!   look at post 13
[05:06] <MrRio> JohnnyG, sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:07] <cafuego> `Capo`: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com and search for bcm43xx. It contains precise instructions on how to set up the free driver with the firmware to make it work.
[05:07] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:~/Desktop/WINXP_2K$ sudo rmmod ndiswrapper
[05:07] <JohnnyG> Segmentation fault
[05:07] <PORDO> i'm trying to fix two login problems right now.
[05:08] <compusa> scrappy_: brb
[05:08] <PORDO> 1) how can i make it so that when i log into my account, and i already have a logon going, it just goes to it, instead of asking me whether i want to create a new logon?
[05:08] <davey_> ndiswrapper is not a kernel module i don't think
[05:08] <davey_> he needs to go to ndiswraper set up and take out the hardware dirver
[05:09] <MrRio> davey_: I have no idea why his atheros card won't show up
[05:09] <davey_> is he on 32 bit linux?
[05:09] <scrappy_> compusa: never used ndiswrapper so youd need to seek advice elsewhere for that hope it works
[05:09] <PORDO>  2) how can i make it so that when i log on from the greeter, i'm not asked for my password again at the xscreensaver prompt?
[05:09] <davey_> first question because 64 sometimes seeming doesn't work for no reason
[05:09] <MrRio> JohnnyG, ahh, as davey just pointed out, is it 32bit ubuntu?
[05:09] <JohnnyG> MrRio: how do I determine what i have?
[05:10] <MrRio> JohnnyG, uname -a
[05:10] <scrappy_> PORDO: open a terminal and type xscreensaver-demo and hit enter change the setting as you would like
[05:10] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:~/Desktop/WINXP_2K$ uname -a
[05:10] <JohnnyG> Linux johnny-laptop 2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 03:13:28 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:10] <davey_> johnnyg, ok you have a reg kernel
[05:11] <davey_> johnnyg, what happens when you look for it in the network config thingey
[05:11] <Davegoodson>  Hey, ive got a probelem, ive got compiz running on my laptop, the laptop has cpu scaling, with at the bottom is 800 mhz to 1.86 ghz, problem is that when it is at 800, and i spin the cube or move the cube etc, it is really laggy unless the cpu is fully scaled up. Can anyone help? (ive asked in #ubuntu-xgl but no-one knows)
[05:11] <EnsignRedshirt> PORDO: 2) or use System->Preferences->Screensave (at least in Breezy), and uncheck "Lock Screen After..."
[05:11] <JohnnyG> davey: I show only two adapters in there: ethernet connection and modem connection
[05:11] <davey_> davvegoodson, the scaling is for your own good, I suppose you could disable it but a little lag is worth it... just an idea
[05:11] <davey_> johnnyg, is the card you have supost to work with the kernel?
[05:12] <MrRio> davey_, it won't auto detect, wont appear in network settings, he's getting an error related to madwifi thats listed as a bug upstream, so I thought ndiswrapper would be a good solution, but I've exhuasted all my ndiswrapper knowledge now
[05:12] <daishi_> theres no mplayer in breezy?
[05:12] <davey_> if not, get ndiswrapper (you can also get the nifty gui if you want) and use the documentation to find the name of your drier
[05:12] <JohnnyG> davey: I have a 11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Express Adapter on my Z60t Thinkpad and an intel centrino processor
[05:12] <scrappy_> daishi_: there is
[05:13] <davey_> the mini pci adapter repos arn't maintained as well (don't tell anyone i told you) they will deny it but it's true
[05:13] <daishi_> how do i get it? its not in any of the regular repos
[05:13] <MrRio> davey_, can you point him to the right driver to install for ndiswrapper?
[05:13] <scrappy_> daishi_: you need to enable multiverse in synaptic though
[05:13] <daishi_> i uncommented those lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:13] <davey_> mrrio, it's listed in the offical ndis wiki just use search in your browser and you should be good it will tell you where to go next
[05:14] <scrappy_> daishi_: multivers i believe you need to add manually.  but you type sudo apt-get update after uncommenting?
[05:14] <MrRio> davey_: will any of the atheros drivers work well, we don't have a specific make/model
[05:14] <davey_> cpu scaller person, if you really really don't want lag and want your laptop to get really hot stay here and keep asking till someone who knows exactly how to do it gets on
[05:14] <daishi_> yea
[05:15] <scrappy_> daishi_: youre on dapper?
[05:15] <davey_> mrrio, have him go to the device profile and check for nams
[05:15] <daishi_> breezy
[05:15] <DrkLrd> after update xmms or mp3blaster wont play any music any ideas????????????
[05:15] <ratbert90> Hey, I have a question,  how on earth do you make openoffice use gtk themes?
[05:15] <davey_> or, just get all of the drivers and look in the gui untill it says "hardware present, yes"
[05:15] <void^> JohnnyG: a simple reboot might be worth a try, madwifi drivers are likely still loaded and could be interfering, add 'blacklist ath_pci' to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[05:15] <daishi_> oo looks like i have universe and not multiverse
[05:16] <grubedithelp> Hi, I'm getting an unusual hang on bootup without the dma disabled.....can someone help?  I've got the error message...
[05:16] <DrkLrd> xmms wont accept file to playlist it wont play anyhing too
[05:16] <scrappy_> daishi_: yeah take a look at your sources.list again copy univer entry but change to multiverse
[05:16] <MrRio> void^, ahh goos thinking
[05:16] <davey_> grubedithelp, post it
[05:16] <MrRio> good*
[05:16] <daishi_> thanks scrappy_
[05:16] <scrappy_> daishi_: np
[05:16] <`Capo`> k peace
[05:16] <grubedithelp> it says:
[05:16] <grubedithelp> [number goes here]  Console Shuts Up...
[05:16] <grubedithelp> [number goes here]  <0> Kernel Panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!
[05:16] <grubedithelp> [number goes here]  _ (blinking cursor and a hang)
[05:17] <JohnnyG> MrRio: blacklist added, booting, brb
[05:17] <Okita>  /part
[05:18] <M06w> i have two questions
[05:18] <daishi_> woo it works!
[05:18] <void^> JohnnyG: and make sure the device id in 'lspci -n' matches the driver's id in /etc/ndiswrapper/blah/<id>.conf or so
[05:18] <M06w> 1. how do i install java
[05:18] <grubedithelp> davey, any ideas?
[05:18] <void^> !java
[05:18] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:18] <DrkLrd> please help
[05:18] <compusa> anyone help me with ndiswrapper?
[05:19] <M06w> 1.5, whats the multiverse repository
[05:19] <lastnode> !multiverse
[05:19] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:19] <davey_> grubedithelp, well a kernel panic ususaly happens with hardware problems, but it doesn't have to be that
[05:19] <grubedithelp> hm...well...I can enable dma within the os
[05:19] <grubedithelp> but it has to be disabled to boot up
[05:19] <basko> SOS:I installed a debian-specific package. It failed and is preventing me from doing anything further package-management-wise. any helpful ideas?
[05:20] <M06w> 2. how do i make x-chat act/look more like the x-chat for windows
[05:20] <grubedithelp> otherwise i get that error
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> M06w,  dont use xchat-gnome install the normal xchat
[05:20] <daishi_> my speaker is so low on my laptop
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> M06w,  and they should be identical
[05:20] <Bassetts> how come when i try and uninstall evolution i have to uninstall ubuntu-desktop?
[05:20] <daishi_> and i have all the volume things moved up
[05:20] <daishi_> main and pcm
[05:20] <M06w> thanks
[05:20] <daishi_> this sucks
[05:20] <JohnnyG> MrRio: no luck.  System -> Administration -> Network -> Network Settings shows only 2
[05:21] <scrappy_> daishi_: try alsamixer in a terminal
[05:21] <davey_> be back later
[05:21] <MrRio> Bassetts: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package, depending on packages that are part of a default ubuntu install
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> Bassetts,  its a meta-package used when updating stuff.. by removeing part of ubuntu-desktop you are breaking the meta-package
[05:21] <daishi_> yea master and pcm both at 100
[05:21] <grubedithelp> davey:  hm...well...I can enable dma within the os, but I have to disable it to avoid that error.
[05:21] <scrappy_> daishi_: that sucks ;-)
[05:21] <daishi_> yea
[05:21] <Bassetts> so it wont break anything by uninstalling ubuntu-desktop?
[05:22] <grubedithelp> (during bootup)
[05:22] <MrRio> Dr_Willis: Its not going to mess up any updates I didn't think?
[05:22] <void^> JohnnyG: check with lsmod if ndiswrapper is loaded, if it is, have a look at dmesg, if it doesn't say anything exciting your windows driver probably doesn't have the correct device id
[05:22] <daishi_> heh
[05:23] <daishi_> i pushed something up and it went louder
[05:23] <MrRio> void^: try sudo modprobe ndiswrapper if it hasn't loaded
[05:23] <basko> SOS:I installed a debian-specific package. It failed and is preventing me from doing anything further package-management-wise. any helpful ideas? PLEASE
[05:23] <daishi_> major distortion...these laptop speakers are worse than my 9 dollar comp speakers
[05:23] <JohnnyG> void: so lsmod | grep 'ndis'
[05:23] <JohnnyG> or something similar?
[05:23] <MrRio> JohnnyG, yeah that should work a treat
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> MrRio,  not sure. doubtfull.
[05:24] <MrRio> JohnnyG, don't need the quotes tho
[05:24] <justdave> how do I create a new world boot block when installing 6.06 on PPC?  The installer craps out because I haven't created one, but there doesn't seem to be an option for it in the partitioner
[05:24] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:~$ lsmod | grep 'ndis'
[05:24] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:~$
[05:24] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:~$ lsmod | grep ndis
[05:24] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:~$
[05:24] <MrRio> JohnnyG, ok, it hasn;t loaded
[05:24] <MrRio> JohnnyG, sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:25] <elkbuntu> and next time, use a pastebin
[05:25] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:25] <JohnnyG> Password:
[05:25] <JohnnyG> johnny@johnny-laptop:~$
[05:25] <Bassetts> anyreason i have a repo hanging on 99%?
[05:25] <elkbuntu> !pastebin
[05:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:25] <void^> i think 'ndiswrapper -l' should say something like "hardware present, driver present" if the driver fits to the hardware
[05:26] <deep__> Whahoo.
[05:26] <raptros-v76> whee
[05:26] <deep__> Whoo!
[05:26] <MrRio> I think maybe IRC clients should shrink the posts when someone has 4-5 lines in a row, with a plus sign if you really want to see it
[05:26] <raptros-v76> so who needs help
[05:26] <raptros-v76> MrRio: write one then
[05:27] <raptros-v76> j/k
[05:27] <MrRio> lol
[05:27] <MrRio> one day
[05:28] <JohnnyG> MrRio: I'm just not going to get this going am i?
[05:28] <MrRio> JohnnyG: did modprobe ndiswrapper do anything?
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> MrRio,  konversation does that I think.. or it has a similer feature.
[05:28] <JohnnyG> MrRio: it did not output anything, neither did it error
[05:28] <MrRio> JohnnyG, i mean has your device popped up?
[05:29] <JohnnyG> HOLY CRAP
[05:29] <JohnnyG> there it is
[05:29] <NickGarvey> ?
[05:29] <MrRio> YYAAAYY
[05:29] <JohnnyG> The interface wlan0 is active
[05:29] <samith> hay good morning everyone
[05:29] <void^> JohnnyG: congratulations :P
[05:29] <JohnnyG> MrRio, void: thank you very much
[05:30] <Jimbo_> i'm impressed with this latest ubuntu. I didn't even have to install the fglrx driver to get 3d direct rendering working!! This is how all linux installs should be :D
[05:30] <MrRio> JohnnyG, well, that was easy enought, don't know what you were complaining about ;)
[05:30] <JohnnyG> I'm going to unplug the wire and see if it works
[05:30] <MrRio> good luck
[05:30] <JohnnyG> if I leave, I'll be right back - I'd like to know how exactly that worked
[05:30] <MrRio> ull need to select a network on properties
[05:30] <gpfreitas> Hi all. X doesn't load from the Dapper live-cd. It does load in Breezy live though... I've tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and couldn't make it work... It seems to be some problem with some /dev/wacom...
[05:31] <grubedithelp> would putting "panic=60" in my "Kernel...."  in the boot prompt with my normal options fix apply to a kernel panic?
[05:31] <Jimbo_> i guess the open source ati drivers must support R350 now
[05:32] <EnsignRedshirt> Is there a command that will split a pdf file into several files, one pdf file per page?  Something like the opposite of pdfjoin.
[05:32] <eegore> hello?
[05:32] <Maximinus> Hello!
[05:32] <Maximinus> ok then, good bye, I guess
[05:32] <EnsignRedshirt> must be something you said...
[05:33] <MrRio> Maximinus: what can we do for you?
[05:33] <Rehevkor> Does anyone know of a lightweight file manager with network support, or a window manager that includes one?
[05:33] <grubedithelp> lol ive been getting ignored, too...dont worry about it
[05:33] <Jimbo_> EnsignRedshirt: i think i used a prog called pdftohtml to convert it into individual html pages before. if that helps
[05:33] <eegore> that was weird
[05:33] <raptros-v76> eegore: you realize of course that coming through tor may cause you problems
[05:33] <eegore> in and out and back in again
[05:33] <EnsignRedshirt> Jimbo_: That might work. Thanks, I'll look for it.
[05:34] <sethk> see topic.  don't ask to ask a question, just ask a question
[05:34] <sethk> you can say hello if you like but don't expect an answer
[05:34] <godtvisken> Anything better than the default gnome cd juicer?
[05:34] <eegore> I am at work and they are blocking 6667
[05:34] <Jimbo_> EnsignRedshirt: welcome
[05:34] <raptros-v76> eegore: why?
[05:34] <scrappy_> Rehevkor: they keep saying thunar will next release but that doesnt really help you now
[05:35] <godtvisken> Anyone know anything better than Sound Juicer?
[05:35] <Rehevkor> scrappy_: good to know though, since I do like xfce
[05:35] <eegore> they have had chat room abuse during regular hours
[05:35] <Rehevkor> was thinking about using icewm or fluxbox for now, if I can find a file manager I like
[05:35] <raptros-v76> godtvisken: does it have to be for gnome?
[05:35] <sethk> Rehevkor, the file manager is not coupled to the window manager
[05:35] <eegore> They fail to realize that this is one of my main avenues of support'
[05:35] <grubedithelp> another thing...how do i pull up my hd stats in ubuntu?
[05:36] <MrRio> Rehevkor: theres alot of userspace network filesystem tools, you could mount the network resources you need onto the normal filesystem, then anything can browse it
[05:36] <Rehevkor> sethk: I know, but some are included with a particular wm, like gnome and nautilus
[05:36] <eegore> They block ssh as well
[05:36] <sethk> Rehevkor, that's just packaging.   e.g., many people use KDE apps in gnome
[05:36] <KrisWood> how do I restart a service that uses xinetd?
[05:36] <sethk> Rehevkor, I use gnome apps in KDE
[05:36] <godtvisken> raptros-v76: no
[05:36] <MrRio> Rehevkor, which network resources do you need access to? samba? ssh? ftp?
[05:36] <Rehevkor> windows shares
[05:36] <MrRio> Rehevkor: smbfs
[05:37] <scrappy_> eegore: i ssh into a server that listen on port 443 at work and use irssi most places will allow that
[05:37] <grubedithelp> another thing...how do i pull up my hd stats in ubuntu?
[05:37] <grubedithelp> would putting "panic=60" in my "Kernel...."  in the boot prompt with my normal options fix or even apply to a kernel panic?
[05:37] <eegore> I use to be able to print man pages by piping to lpr
[05:37] <raptros-v76> godtvisken: wait, sound juicers is a cd burner right?
[05:37] <MrRio> Rehevkor: look for instructions to that, you can then just mount them to folders like /mnt/winshare
[05:37] <eegore> dapper wont do that
[05:37] <Rehevkor> MrRio: do I have to mount each one manually with that? I have a lot of shares on several machines which change fairly often. Having to manage them manually would be time consuming.
[05:37] <Rehevkor> damnit
[05:37] <Jimbo_> grubedithelp: df
[05:38] <Rehevkor> my cd burner is going insane
[05:38] <Rehevkor> brb, gotta reboot
[05:38] <eegore> where do I pipe the print command to in dapper
[05:38] <godtvisken> raptros-v76: cd ripper
[05:38] <davey_> i'm back
[05:39] <letters_9> i cant install nvidia drivers, it says I have to close my x windows session :(
[05:39] <eegore> man iptables |lprwill this work?
[05:39] <MrRio> letters_9, ubuntu comes with nvidia drivers
[05:39] <void^> !info nvidia-glx
[05:40] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-3 (dapper), package size 3963 kB, installed size 12240 kB
[05:40] <eegore> man iptables |lpr will this work?
[05:40] <MrRio> letters_9: automagically, the binary installed from their website is not much use
[05:40] <gpfreitas> Hi all. X doesn't load from the Dapper live-cd. It does load in Breezy live though... I've tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and couldn't make it work... It seems to be some problem with some /dev/wacom... Any ideas?
[05:40] <raptros-v76> godtvisken: i use kaudiocreator, but i dont know if thats what you want.
[05:40] <MrRio> JohnnyG, any luck?
[05:40] <stopher> Hey guys, i just bought a 4 processor P3 server... does ubuntu have a distro that will allow all processors?
[05:40] <crimsun> stopher: install linux-686, and you'll be able to
[05:40] <MrRio> JohnnyG, network-manager will make it easier to choose which network to connect to, and set up security etc
[05:41] <polpak> stopher: just install the smp kernel
[05:41] <JohnnyG> I am back, weird thing, I couldn't connect to IRC with wireless although I can pull internet pages and the rest
[05:41] <stopher> Not sure how to change the kernel during install polpak
[05:41] <stopher> crimsun: that will auto-matically install it?
[05:41] <JohnnyG> also, what should i use to detect networks in range?
[05:41] <MrRio> JohnnyG: thats odd, network-manager
[05:41] <crimsun> stopher: you install linux-686 after the install finishes
[05:41] <letters_9> no, not much good at all
[05:41] <dougsko> JohnnyG: kismet
[05:41] <stopher> ooh okay
[05:41] <letters_9> lol
[05:41] <polpak> stopher: you don't need to . just do the normal install, then use synaptic to install the smp kernel (assuming it doesn't do it automatically)
[05:41] <stopher> with sudo apt-get
[05:42] <letters_9> isnt there a way to just login with a text terminal ?
[05:42] <polpak> stopher: yes
[05:42] <robbiet> hey i need some help
[05:42] <MrRio> JohnnyG: you can just use the dropdown in the settings window, but netowkr-manager is much more user friendly
[05:42] <grubedithelp> Hi, I'm a linux newb, and I just made the switch yesterday with no prior exposure to linux or ubuntu, and I'm getting an error when dma is enabled on boot, but i can enable it from within the os.  When dma is enabled I get "<0> Kernel panic -not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt!".  Is there a way to fix this without having to manually turn on dma every time I boot up?
[05:42] <robbiet> i screwed my superblock
[05:42] <letters_9> thanks ubotu but I already have the nvidia.8762.run
[05:42] <letters_9> i found binutils
[05:42] <stopher> polpak I want a GUI but only have the ubuntu-text-server install..can i install a GUI after the install with a command?
[05:42] <polpak> grubedithelp: edit your grub options
[05:42] <MrRio> JohnnyG: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[05:42] <letters_9> installed those.. blah blah, but arg, wont install while x is running
[05:42] <davey_> stopher, you have to get the sls or something like that version
[05:42] <davey_> that has mulit prossesor support
[05:42] <davey_> smp ya
[05:42] <davey_> how come my apt-get doesn't work correctly in my 32 bit chroot?
[05:42] <davey_> stopher, yes
[05:42] <etzerd> ?
[05:42] <scrappy_> letters_9: you can sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop     and then type the same with start to restart but the nvidia installer takes several steps in dapper i hope youve printed them off or something
[05:43] <grubedithelp> polpak:  im aware of that, can you be more specific? :)
[05:43] <JohnnyG> I show it already installed
[05:43] <polpak> stopher: yes. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop gdm will probably cover most things
[05:43] <grubedithelp> its by default "on" when you boot, but it hangs on the panic error if you boot with it on.  but then after it boots up I can turn it on in the prompt.
[05:43] <dougsko> grubedithelp: im pretty sure there is a boot option like, dma=off
[05:43] <JohnnyG> MrRio: how do I access it?
[05:43] <etzerd> I try to install a file and I have this error: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mono/mono-classlib-1.0_1.1.13.6-0ubuntu3_all.deb
[05:43] <etzerd>   Connection failed
[05:43] <letters_9> hmm perhaps I missed something in the readme
[05:43] <stopher> polpak: then reboot and itll boot to GUI?
[05:43] <polpak> stopher: yeah
[05:43] <letters_9> thanks scrappy
[05:43] <grubedithelp> dougsko, i said:
[05:43] <robbiet> Im a moderate linux user that just erased my Windows XP and Madrake Paritions and for some reason right after I got superblock errors
[05:43] <stopher> thanks polpak :D
[05:43] <robbiet> can someone help
[05:43] <scrappy_> letters_9: dapper requires some extra work if you dont use the nvidia package
[05:44] <letters_9> in fact the dapper unoffical start guide seems slightly out of date
[05:44] <grubedithelp> Hi, I'm a linux newb, and I just made the switch yesterday with no prior exposure to linux or ubuntu, and I'm getting an error when dma is enabled on boot, but i can enable it from within the os.  When dma is enabled ON BOOT I get "<0> Kernel panic -not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt!".  Is there a way to fix this without having to manually turn on dma every time AFTER I boot up?
[05:44] <letters_9> would you have a link to extra steps ?
[05:44] <raptros-v76> grubedithelp: write an init script
[05:44] <MrRio> JohnnyG: logout and back in
[05:44] <JohnnyG> kk
[05:44] <grubedithelp> good lord.
[05:44] <polpak> grubedithelp: you just need to add the dma=off to your kernel options
[05:44] <davey_> grubedithelp, alright look for someone named "gnome-freak" or "mwe" they can help you
[05:45] <grubedithelp> davey_:  thank you
[05:45] <sethk> grubedithelp, you would need to either rebuild the kernel with the chipset support compiled into the kernel (rather than as a module), or create (or modify) an initrd file system which would load the module and continue booting
[05:45] <letters_9> perhaps I have to read the SuSE notes
[05:45] <dougsko> grubedithelp: yeah, dma is obviously not working right, why would you want to turn it on after it fails
[05:45] <scrappy_> letters_9: doc.gwos.org/index.php/latest_nvidia_dapper i think
[05:45] <robbiet> Im a moderate linux user that just erased my Windows XP and Madrake Paritions and for some reason right after I got superblock errors. I am currently in maintinece mode and its saying use a alternate superblock. Can someone please help?
[05:45] <sethk> grubedithelp, frankly, though, it's much easier to just add the command to turn dma back on to a boot script
[05:46] <etzerd> I try to install a file and I have this error: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mono/mono-classlib-1.0_1.1.13.6-0ubuntu3_all.deb
[05:46] <raptros-v76> thats what i said
[05:46] <raptros-v76> ...
[05:46] <raptros-v76> im such a bad person
[05:46] <sethk> raptros-v76, yes, but I used lot's more words to say the same thing  :)
[05:46] <JohnnyG> MrRio: I'm back
[05:46] <void^> hdparm comes with a boot script to be configured in /etc/default/ usually
[05:46] <raptros-v76> while i was typing, i thought, "Thats what she said"
[05:46] <MrRio> JohnnyG: should be in the panel at the top-right
[05:46] <letters_9> suppose once I get a modem that works I will like apt-get but for now it seems an evil assumption
[05:46] <dougsko> robbiet: have you run fsck?
[05:47] <sethk> void^, that is default behavior for hdparm, but it will not run hdparm
[05:47] <polpak> grubedithelp: actually I think it's ide=nodma
[05:47] <JohnnyG> MrRio: I show two set of computer icons on the top right, both will little red !'s
[05:47] <Jimbo_> grubedithelp: you could use the hdparm init script to enable dma when you boot
[05:47] <sethk> void^, you still need to add an invocation of hdparm to an init script
[05:47] <JohnnyG> one says "No Network Connection" the other says "Network Connection: eth0"
[05:47] <grubedithelp> sethk:  is there a non-manual way to compile the kernel like that?  I'm not sure what compiling a kernel is, but it sounds dangerous.
[05:47] <polpak> grubedithelp:  if you add that to your defoptions line in /boot/grub/menu.lst you should be good
[05:47] <MrRio> JohnnyG: click one of them, one is the new network-manager
[05:47] <MrRio> JohnnyG, you should beable to select a network with a bit of luck
[05:48] <robbiet> no
[05:48] <sethk> grubedithelp, it isn't dangerous at all.  Install the kernel source, run the kernel configuration, find the module, change it from m to built in, and do the build.
[05:48] <robbiet> i havent
[05:48] <robbiet> dougsko: how do i
[05:48] <sethk> grubedithelp, it's easier to do than to say, and there are lots of good howto's out there
[05:48] <tanlaan> Hey everyone, I am STILL trying to get my iMac G3 to get Dapper...I Can't get gdm to start after it is stopped, as in it "fails" as it trys to start, can anyone help?
[05:48] <MrRio> JohnnyG, left-clicking should give you a dropdown of nearby ssid's
[05:48] <JohnnyG> MrRio: there it goes
[05:48] <grubedithelp> ok.  I've been using XP since it came out, and have typed about 4 linux commands in my life.  Can you possibly water it down a llittle?  :)
[05:48] <void^> sethk: sorry, /etc/hdparm.conf
[05:48] <dougsko> robbiet: i forget what switched you need, just do a fsck --help, or man fsck
[05:48] <dougsko> robbiet: but that might be able to repair the disk
[05:48] <polpak> grubedithelp: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:48] <sethk> tanlaan, that said, adding a call to hdparm to an init script is a perfectly acceptable way to solve your problem.
[05:49] <robbiet> dougsko: it was having me do a alternate superblock
[05:49] <bmac2> just installed ubuntu on an old motherboard I am going to use in my truck as a pc
[05:49] <bmac2> trying to compile a program
[05:49] <sethk> grubedithelp, you mean rebuilding the kernel?
[05:49] <tanlaan> sthk: Huh?
[05:49] <bmac2> installed gcc and try to run the configure script
[05:49] <tanlaan> sethk: Huh?
[05:49] <MrRio> JohnnyG: you can right-click 'remove from panel', if your bothered about still having the old one
[05:49] <sethk> grubedithelp, start with a howto doc, and ask questions if you don't understand.
[05:49] <grubedithelp> sethk:  yes
[05:49] <polpak> sethk: he doesn't need to recompile he just wants to disable dma
[05:49] <dougsko> robbiet: fsck goes through your hard drive and checks for any errors, then it tries to fix them
[05:49] <grubedithelp> k
[05:49] <robbiet> dougsko
[05:49] <polpak> grubedithelp: you don't need to recompile
[05:49] <grubedithelp> for now im going to use the script
[05:49] <sethk> tanlaan, sorry, did I say something to you?
[05:49] <robbiet> dougsko: ok let me try real quick
[05:49] <bmac2> and get the error "C compiler cannot create executables"
[05:50] <grubedithelp> polpak:  I'm concerned about boot time
[05:50] <bmac2> and I ran it as sudo ./configure
[05:50] <bmac2> what am I missing?
[05:50] <tanlaan> sethk: yea something about hdparm
[05:50] <polpak> grubedithelp: I know
[05:50] <sethk> bmac2, have you installed build-essential?
[05:50] <scales> hello guys, just wanted  a bit of input.  i want to dual boot, ubuntu and xp on my laptop.  i was wondering how much space would be good to give to ubuntu.  i would like to have a few basic applications, matlab, maybe mathematica, open office, maybe a few other applications.  currently i have a 60 gig drive, windows takes up just a little more than half.  input?
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> install build-essential as a start
[05:50] <bmac2> let me check
[05:50] <polpak> grubedithelp: this will disable dma on all your ide controllers
[05:50] <grubedithelp> Dr_willlis:  me?
[05:50] <polpak> grubedithelp: when it boots
[05:50] <sethk> tanlaan, Possibly I mistyped the name or I did a tab completion and got your name by mistake.  sorry.
[05:50] <sethk> polpak, he isn't trying to disable dma
[05:50] <tanlaan> sethk: its all good :D
[05:50] <gekko`> scales: you wouldn't need more than 10gb for ubuntu
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> scales,  2gb min..  id say about 5+gb for working with stuff.
[05:50] <sethk> polpak, he is trying to _enable_ dma after the boot completes.
[05:50] <polpak> grubedithelp: unless someone prefixes their statement with your name they probably aren't talking to you
[05:50] <scrappy_> scales: i keep my root partition on 5 gigs and another 5 or so for home
[05:50] <bmac2> nope
[05:51] <JohnnyG> MrRio: why is my wireless connection working? what did we actually do?
[05:51] <bmac2> it is installing now
[05:51] <polpak> grubedithelp: are you trying to enable, or disable dma
[05:51] <bmac2> thanks sethk, I am very used to debian, just new to ubuntu
[05:51] <sethk> bmac2, that explains it.  :)
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> !limewire
[05:51] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[05:51] <ct8ball> anyone savy in setting up dual monitors in ubuntu with radeon please let me know?
[05:51] <davey_> I am
[05:51] <ct8ball> sweet
[05:51] <omnid> I don't understand how to use Wine aparently
[05:51] <MrRio> JohnnyG: We installed the windows driver, then made sure that the old madwifi driver didn't try and boot up, because that didn't work
[05:51] <omnid> I tried loading the binary
[05:51] <davey_> ct8ball, get the binary drivers
[05:51] <robbiet> dougsko: i tried but it said it can cause SEVERE! damage to a mounted filesystem. it said use e2fsck instead
[05:51] <davey_> ct8ball, then get ati's special program that the installer crashes your system, but it installs anyway so don't worry abot it
[05:52] <MrRio> JohnnyG, ndiswrapper was the wrapper for installing windows wireless drivers
[05:52] <sethk> bmac2, you'll have no problems once you learn a few things (like the package names and what is and isn't installed during the default installation)
[05:52] <bmac2> gee sethk , it is now compiling
[05:52] <tanlaan> by the way if anyone was thinking about helping me, I had dapper installed for a long time *ever since it came out* and I have just now reformatted my disc so i could dual boot mac OS 9.
[05:52] <JohnnyG> MrRio: what is a wrapper? what is its input? how does it do what it does?
[05:52] <bmac2> who woulda thunk it
[05:52] <omnid> !wine > omnid
[05:52] <bmac2> I have run debian for years
[05:52] <scales> humm, now tougher question.  should i make multiple partitions, ?  probably a good idea.  right now i have only the windows partition,  but i was hoping to try a partition manager, and shrink it.  i know this isnt 100% guaranteed, somehing about the ntfs, but if i made a few more partitions by splitting mine up, could i then combine them if i changed my mind?
[05:52] <bmac2> just trying this since it supports a wierd wirelss card I am using for my truck
[05:52] <bmac2> thaks sethk
[05:53] <playtime3> is the command make work in ubuntu?
[05:53] <dougsko> robbiet: well dude, i would get on google and read a little about it so yor're not just blindly entering commands. but i think thatll be your best bet
[05:53] <playtime3> i try making an eggdrop on my ubuntu box
[05:53] <justdave> how do I create a new world boot block when installing 6.06 on PPC?  The installer craps out because I haven't created one, but there doesn't seem to be an option for it in the partitioner
[05:54] <one_stinky_bum> any tablet pc folks here
[05:54] <dougsko> robbiet: i dont know enough about it to be able to walk you through
[05:54] <one_stinky_bum> ?
[05:54] <playtime3> but it say this
[05:54] <playtime3> root@linux:/home/tuan/eggdrop1.6.18# makez config
[05:54] <playtime3> -bash: makez: command not found
[05:54] <MrRio> JohnnyG: they reimplemented the windows NDIS api's involved in using network cars as a linux module
[05:54] <robbiet> dougsko: thanks for your help
[05:54] <wweasel> robbiet: I just started reading, but I think I can help you.  You want to fsck your root file system?
[05:54] <dougsko> robbiet: no problem
[05:54] <playtime3> i mean ignore the z at the end of make
[05:54] <robbiet> wweasel: can u private chat?
[05:54] <playtime3> root@linux:/home/tuan/eggdrop1.6.18# make config
[05:55] <JohnnyG> MrRio: what is a linux module? what is a universe? what is a respository?
[05:55] <robbiet> wweasel: can u private chat?
[05:55] <wweasel> robbiet: I am pming you right now.
[05:55] <philc> if I have ubuntu already installed, can I make room at the end of my HD and throw XP on there? I don't want to reinstall/mess with the ubuntu deployment
[05:55] <robbiet> wweasel: ok thx
[05:56] <tanlaan> Does anyone know any reasons why gdm might not start up?
[05:56] <MrRio> JohnnyG, a module is a section of code that performs one, or a number of similiar tasks, the kernel is broken up into modules to make it easier to develop, some modules are compiled into the main kernel, such as drivers for common netowrk cards, other modules are available as binary files to be loaded in later, thru modprobe
[05:56] <wweasel> robbiet: you aren't answering my pms.
[05:56] <Jimbo_> philc: ye, you can. provided you haven't hit 4 primary limit or don't have enough space.
[05:56] <wweasel> robbiet: but we can chat here.
[05:57] <robbiet> wweasel: it isnt working. its ok
[05:57] <philc> Jimbo_: thanks!
[05:57] <wweasel> robbiet: Alright. Are you trying to fsck your root filesystem?
[05:57] <MrRio> JohnnyG, A repository is best described as a catalogue of code, in ubuntu it's split into 4
[05:57] <grubedithelp> if thats the case then why would it fix errors to recompile the kernel with the module as part of it?
[05:57] <robbiet> wweasel: ok so basically i just erased windows xp and mandrake and then I restart and I am getting superblock errord
[05:57] <JohnnyG> MrRio: when we modprobe something, what are we doing to it? Why is it that the default respositories never have what you need in them?
[05:57] <robbiet> errors*
[05:57] <tanlaan> Or maybe is there any way to install Ubuntu Dapper from the live cd without gdm?
[05:57] <stopher> bbl
[05:58] <wweasel> robbiet: alright.
[05:58] <tanlaan> this way I would be able to fix gdm later.
[05:58] <wweasel> robbiet: but you are still able to boot up into Ubuntu?
[05:58] <Jimbo_> philc: just tell the xp setup to create the c: partition in the unallocated space
[05:58] <MrRio> JohnnyG, official, restricted, community (called 'universe') and non-free (multi-verse)
[05:58] <robbiet> wweasel: no i cant. i try to boot and it asks if i want to go to maintence mode. again its superblock errors
[05:58] <philc> Jimbo_: XP will take over the MBR and I'll need to boot from a boot cd to restore it, right?
[05:58] <MrRio> JohnnyG, official are open-source packages that ubuntu can freely and safely distribute
[05:59] <MrRio> JohnnyG, restricted have some legal restrictions, but are so important they are distributed anyway
[05:59] <Jimbo_> philc: i'm assuming you have a unallocated space on this disk? if not you might need to resize the partition/file system
[05:59] <philc> Jimbo_: about to run gparted
[05:59] <MrRio> JohnnyG, universe is community maintained, still opensource and free, but not supported as well
[05:59] <Jimbo_> philc: ye, you will need a live cd handy to restore grub
[05:59] <playtime3> is there a comand in ubuntu for make?
[05:59] <davey_> playtime, you need to have make installed
[06:00] <Maje> playtime: install the make package
[06:00] <philc> Jimbo_: cool, have it all ready. Thanks
[06:00] <playtime3> ok
[06:00] <MrRio> JohnnyG, multiverse is for packages like acrobat reader, or flashplayer, free as in money, but restrcitive licenses
[06:00] <wweasel> robbiet: Alright. How did you try fsck then?
[06:00] <omnid> Is it strange that I am missing shut down and restart?
[06:00] <MrRio> JohnnyG, ubuntu tries to only distribute well supported and legally sound software, which is why the stuff you need is never turned on :)
[06:00] <EnsignRedshirt> playtime3: If you need make, you probably need more stuff. You can get most of what you might need with one package: build-essential
[06:00] <playtime3> there is alot of packages for make, which one do i choose?
[06:00] <scrappy_> playtime3: if youre wanting to compile stuff start by installing the build-essential package
[06:00] <JohnnyG> MrRio: is there an easy or pre-built way to say "I want to pull from all respositories all the time"?
[06:00] <Maje> omnid: Nope, I'm missing that from everything except the default Gnome session
[06:01] <MrRio> JohnnyG, yes, go into Settings -> Repositories, click 'Add', then tick all the boxes
[06:01] <omnid> So you don't know what causes it?
[06:01] <MrRio> JohnnyG, this will use all those repos forever
[06:01] <Maje> Not off my head, but it's not strange
[06:01] <playtime3> im in synaptic package manager and search for make, it comes up with lots of packages
[06:01] <MrRio> JohnnyG, well, until you change it
[06:01] <JohnnyG> MrRio: when I do that, it seems like I'm only adding all options to the very top option
[06:01] <Maje> You can logout and shut down or reboot from the login screen
[06:01] <levander> Anybody can point me to some documentation about DVD burners that work well with Linux?  I had a few problems with my Pioneer drive on Linux.
[06:01] <wweasel> Guys, I recently switched to Swiftfox and set my default browser to Swiftfox.  I use KMess for MSN, and it still opens all of its external links in Firefox.  Anyone know how I can fix that?
[06:01] <playtime3> found it
[06:01] <EnsignRedshirt> playtime3: Install "build-essential"
[06:02] <playtime3> EnsignRedshirt: yeh i found it
[06:02] <EnsignRedshirt> playtime3: It is a metapackage; it will get make and several other tools.
[06:02] <playtime3> thanks
[06:02] <JohnnyG> MrRio: there is Ubunti 6.06 LTS, LTS Security Updates, Updates and Backports for channels
[06:02] <EnsignRedshirt> np
[06:02] <omnid> Maje: That's lame. I didn't disable shut down or restart though. This is pretty dumb.
[06:02] <MrRio> JohnnyG, you can select channel from the dropdown, and do it for each if you wish
[06:02] <JohnnyG> mrRio: also, I click them all and click Add, but when I click add again they don't populate as checked
[06:03] <tanlaan> Does anyone know any way to install ubuntu dapper from the live cd without gdm?
[06:03] <Maje> omnid: I'm sure there's a fix, I just don't know it
[06:03] <Maje> Oookay, bye then.
[06:03] <MrRio> JohnnyG, that is a bit confusing, but they are there when you look under the headings
[06:03] <MrRio> JohnnyG, should report that as a bug really
[06:03] <dougsko> wweasel: i dont know for sure, but you might want to look in something like ~/.KMess or ~/.kde/whatever/kmess for a personal config file
[06:03] <MrRio> JohnnyG, that tick thing has always confused me
[06:03] <dougsko> wweasel: just a thought
[06:03] <Rehevkor> Jesus CHRIST why does Ubuntu always MAX the frigging volume on the Live CD and fresh installs?
[06:04] <Rehevkor> people are trying to sleep around here
[06:04] <JohnnyG> MrRio: will Ubuntu get sued if it had one button to enable all and had it as "On" by default? I mean, what a really annoy and fatal impediment
[06:04] <Maje> Rehevkor: It's to let everybody know you just installed Ubuntu. It's good advertising.
[06:04] <rast4> Ok so last night I had some issues, and a few people were helping me out. I managed to solve the problem with the help from everyone, it was Automatix that was messing up my booting. Now, the problem is that I can't install the latest Nvidia drivers without the system hanging on boot. I followed the tutorials on the forums page and also a walkthrough
[06:04] <MrRio> JohnnyG: You have a good point, I'm not sure, but if they could do it, im sure they would
[06:04] <robbiet> wweasel: sry im chatting on AIM :D anyway I tried fsck and it said that it could severly damage the mounted partition so it said use e2fsck
[06:05] <rast4> It's an Nvidia Go 440 on a Toshiba Satellite  laptop
[06:05] <Jimbo_> tanlaan: if you use the dapper desktop-arch.iso live cd, it should have an icon to install on the desktop in gnome. If thats what you mean
[06:05] <rast4> any ideas anyone?
[06:05] <petriborg> if i want to test and see if there is any corruption on an ext3 drive, what command is best to use? I assume i do some sort of fsck /dev/sda1 etc, do i need to do anything to make sure it knows its ext3?
[06:05] <wweasel> robbiet: how did you try to fsck it? using a live CD?
[06:05] <MrRio> JohnnyG, to be fair, ndiswrapper and madwifi were both in restricted, and installed as default
[06:05] <robbiet> wweasel: no i did it during bootup. it said superblock screwed up or something and asked if i wanted to start maintence mode
[06:06] <gekko`> petriborg: e2fsck instead of fsck
[06:06] <wweasel> robbiet: did you do e2fsck instead of fsck?
[06:06] <robbiet> wweasel: i had to get some number of another superblock
[06:06] <petriborg> all it says is: /dev/sdc1: clean, 56018/24428544 files, 45721744/48839600 blocks
[06:07] <petriborg> is that the correct output?
[06:07] <davey_> mrrio, did you get him the gtkndis wraper
[06:07] <davey_> that one is really nice
[06:07] <pierreth> hello
[06:07] <petriborg> hi
[06:07] <pierreth> hi petriborg
[06:07] <pierreth> i would like to know if it is possible to write a script to type something for me?
[06:08] <MrRio> davey_: havt seen tyhat, whats the package called?
[06:08] <robbiet> wweasel: the command was e2fsck -b (number)
[06:08] <petriborg> pierreth - if its command line it is
[06:08] <robbiet> wweasel: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/e2fsck.8.html
[06:08] <davey_> mrrio, I think it's gtkndis
[06:08] <tanlaan> Jimbo_: well I cant really get to the desktop...what I wanted to know is if there was a text install, because I cant get anything visual atm.
[06:08] <leeyee> Hi, I have a question about gnuplot, maybe this is not a proper place to ask
[06:09] <pierreth> petriborg: i don't understand
[06:09] <MrRio> davey_, ahh, ndisgtk
[06:09] <Geoffrey2> I believe I one heard of a service along the lines of Itunes, but it's sound files weren't DRM encumbered...anyone know where I could find something like that?
[06:09] <Maje> tanlaan: if you use the server install CD, that's a text-only installer, if that's what you meant
[06:09] <MrRio> davey_, i should of, that looks alot nicer
[06:09] <Jimbo_> tanlaan: you could try the alternative-<arch>.iso, that is the text mode install i think
[06:09] <petriborg> did you get that message pierreth?
[06:09] <Maje> nod
[06:09] <wweasel> robbiet: Alright. I have personally had a superblock error before, and I tried exactly what you did.  fsck, e2fsck.  when you ran fsck it probably gave you the list of the locations of the superblocks. try all of them using e2fsck
[06:09] <wweasel> robbiet: When I did that, it still didn't work.
[06:09] <pierreth> petriborg: what message, i am sorry?
[06:10] <EnsignRedshirt> leeyee: Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:10] <petriborg> i tried to send you a message, clearly it didn't work
[06:10] <robbiet> wweasel: no i tried it and it gave me the option to use it. It said it could damage my hard drive severly
[06:10] <leeyee> okay, Thank you EnsignRedshirt
[06:10] <tanlaan> Jimbo_: Hmm Ok I will.
[06:10] <pierreth> petriborg: i am new with gnome
[06:10] <petriborg> to avoid me spamming this channel lets go to a new one, /join #pierreth
[06:10] <pierreth>  /join #pierreth
[06:11] <Jimbo_> tanlaan: i'm assuming the alternative-<arch>.iso is textmode, and the desktop-<arch>.iso is the livecd. maybe someone else can confirm that
[06:11] <wweasel> robbiet: ah. you need to do this from a live cd. because in order to fsck, you need to unmount the partition. therefore you can't fsck your root partition. I don't know if this will work with your problem, but normally in Ubuntu if you want to force an fsck of your root partition you do "shutdown -F -r now"
[06:11] <wweasel> robbiet: that will reboot your computer and run fsck as it is starting up
[06:12] <droptothetop> getting a device-mapper: device /dev/sda too small for target
[06:12] <wweasel> robbiet: but with a superblock error, it might not get that far.
[06:12] <droptothetop> on an Sil 3114 raid 10
[06:12] <droptothetop> any ideas?
[06:12] <robbiet> wweasel: ok so i pop in the cd then go to the console then do e2fsck or fsck?
[06:12] <davey_> drop the top, linux is not good with raid
[06:12] <wweasel> robbiet: Yes.
[06:13] <droptothetop> davey_: this is simple dmraid though
[06:13] <robbiet> wweasel: can u get on AIM and IM me. i dont like IRC :D my name is robbiet480
[06:13] <droptothetop> I had it working with a raid 0
[06:13] <wweasel> robbiet: I don't use AIM.
[06:13] <droptothetop> now with raid 10 the same card isn't working
[06:13] <DrkLrd> i cant play mp3 files xmms wont accept files in playlist mp3blaster also wont play any ideas?
[06:13] <robbiet> wweasel: do u use anything else
[06:13] <droptothetop> I don't understand the error message
[06:13] <droptothetop> that's all
[06:13] <ripper> anyone know how i can fix this?
[06:13] <ripper> /usr/lib/python2.4/ihooks.py:172: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module gobject: This Python has API version 1012, module gobject has version 1011.
[06:13] <ripper>   return imp.load_dynamic(name, filename, file)
[06:13] <ripper> You do not have PyGtk-2 properly installed.
[06:14] <droptothetop> device is too small for target"
[06:14] <wweasel> robbiet: Try PMing me in IRC
[06:14] <wweasel> robbiet: What IRC client are you using?
[06:14] <MrRio> ripper: What application are you trying to run there?
[06:14] <robbiet> wweasel: colloquy
[06:14] <ripper> GyachE
[06:15] <pc22> anyone used USB foot pedal before in ubuntu?
[06:15] <DrkLrd> someone help me please :(
[06:15] <_daniel_> Hi I was wondering if anyone here owns a sony vaio, and has been able to use the smartcard reader under linux
[06:15] <robbiet> wweasel: ill try another client. hold on
[06:15] <wweasel> robbiet: I have never used colloquy, but you can probably PM with it.
[06:16] <robbiet> wweasel: oh no i can PM just its not getting through. hold while i try a different client
[06:16] <ripper> this problem is plauging me
[06:17] <scales> any one dual boot ubuntu and windows, and been able to switch distros via screen rotation like i have seen on a macbook?
[06:20] <robbiet> wweasel: one more minute
[06:21] <ripper> anyone know how i can fix this pygtk+ problem?
[06:22] <rast4> where can I download individual packages like messengers, chat clients, etc for dapper?
[06:23] <ripper> rast4 > synaptic
[06:23] <rast4> is that a program or place?
[06:23] <_daniel_> program
[06:23] <Maximinus> program
[06:23] <ripper> program
[06:23] <rast4> I just got through a horrible experience with Automatix
[06:23] <rast4> it crashed my system like 3 timers
[06:23] <rast4> times*
[06:23] <rast4> I did 4 reinstalls :(
[06:23] <Maximinus> System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[06:23] <davey_> frast4, have you tried snaptic
[06:24] <rast4> thank you everyone
[06:24] <rast4> davey: I'm about to :D
[06:24] <davey_> lol alright man
[06:24] <_daniel_> man this smartcard reader thing sucks
[06:24] <rast4> has anyone had a problem with Nvidia Go drivers with dapper?
[06:24] <rast4> I can't get an updated driver to work
[06:24] <scales> so on the fly os switching?  anyone?
[06:24] <rast4> it makes the system crash
[06:24] <ripper> does anyone know anything about properly installing pygtk-2 ?
[06:25] <sahasrara> is it possible to download ubuntu on a dialup connection? like with bittorrent?
[06:25] <ripper> yes
[06:25] <ripper> http://torrentspy.com
[06:26] <sahasrara> i have bittorrent is that good enough?
[06:26] <ripper> yes.
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> sahasrara,  what os?
[06:26] <sahasrara> ok
[06:27] <Maximinus> Anyone managed to get a Ricoh SD/MMC/MS reader/writer to work? Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev ac), also known as ricoh_593
[06:27] <davey_> sahasrara, but you knoww hat you should verify it
[06:27] <sahasrara> Dr_Willis: i'm on 98 right now
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> sahasrara,  utorrent is one of the best for windows that ive seen.
[06:27] <JoelMax> hi i need help
[06:27] <sahasrara> davey_: with an MD5 checker?
[06:27] <davey_> yes
[06:27] <sahasrara> Dr_Willis: ok
[06:27] <rast4> I agree with uTorrent
[06:27] <JoelMax> i want install ATI 1900xtx
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> sahasrara,  also ubuntu may be included with some of the linux magazines at teh bookstores
[06:27] <ppcguy> hey all have a pickle here.. Did the last update and went to reboot w/ Dapper and everything hangs @ mount of root file sys.. I'm on the live cd right now
[06:27] <Bassetts> to upgrade my kernel to i686 what packages do i requier?
[06:28] <ppcguy> is there anyway to get to my hd, get some files off onto a smartcard and then reinstall?
[06:28] <sahasrara> Dr_Willis: it is in i believe LinuxFormat right now, i just don't want to pay $10, and it's ubuntu not kubuntu which i want
[06:28] <sahasrara> i wonder if it's the live cd
[06:28] <davey_> ppcguy, ya sure just mount the hardrive and drag and dtop
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> sahasrara,  it  proberly the livecd/installer.
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> sahasrara,  often they got a dvd that has several .isos on it.
[06:28] <ppcguy> the one in the new linux format is live/install
[06:28] <robbiet480> wweasel: hey im trying to PM in a different client but its still not working
[06:29] <sahasrara> oh... well i don't have a dvd player
[06:29] <Rehevkor> does Fluxbox include a file manager?
[06:29] <MrRio> sahasrara: how much RAM do you have? the livecd installer needs 256mb to work well
[06:29] <rast4> Synaptic doesn't have add-ons that I want, are there any other suggestions?
[06:29] <sahasrara> there's a dvd with like 6 distros in a linux for dummies magazine from the library, but i can't get them off it
[06:29] <MrRio> sahasrara: otherwise get the tetx mode install cd
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> Rehevkor,  yes
[06:29] <ppcguy> thanks davey_: More to the point though. Via the live cd, how can I found out what is wrong? /var/logs?
[06:29] <sahasrara> MrRio: 512
[06:29] <MrRio> sahasrara: you'll want the livecd :)
[06:29] <Rehevkor> Dr_Willis: do you know which?
[06:29] <sahasrara> ppcguy: ok
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Rehevkor,  i would guess the xfce file manager. :P
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Rehevkor,  or ya can install any of a dozen others.
[06:30] <Rehevkor> Thunar?
[06:30] <ppcguy> I would much rather find out what is wrong w/ my current install then blow it out and reinstall
[06:30] <sahasrara> yeah i decided possibly the kubuntu cd i burnt off an image someone else dl'ed for me, is corrupt or incomplete
[06:30] <sahasrara> so i want to redo it
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> i think xffm is the default. thunar is popular however
[06:30] <Rehevkor> Dr_Willis: do you know of any guides that explain how to change the default file manager?
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Rehevkor,   never seen such a 'thing' you normally just run the one you want to use.
[06:30] <Rehevkor> I havent been able to find one
[06:30] <sahasrara> if i get impatient i'll just buy the linuxformat then
[06:31] <Rehevkor> hmm
[06:31] <rast4> if Ubuntu installs as linux-386 and I'm on a P4, shouldn't this be linux-686?
[06:31] <e\ectro> where do I change my IP address settings for eth0 ?
[06:31] <Rehevkor> rast4: nope
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> Rehevkor,  under gnome you can change the  defaults of nautilus to run one way or another.. but not noticed anything similer for other desktops
[06:31] <Vexmaster> rast4- Did you install in text mode?
[06:31] <sahasrara> linux is taking over my life
[06:31] <davey_> wait sorry, talking to a hot chick on aim and got distracted did someone ask me something?
[06:31] <rast4> I installed off the CD
[06:31] <lxe> rast4 if you want to install the 686 kernel you can. look for it in the repository
[06:31] <sahasrara> i want to learn and get it right before i install it, but i've got other stuff to do, it's a sacrifice
[06:32] <rast4> I see it in Synaptic
[06:32] <rast4> is it beneficial?
[06:32] <rast4> I mean it should be better to use it on the proper system right?
[06:32] <lxe> if you are installing crucial software drivers
[06:32] <Vexmaster> rast4 - Yes
[06:32] <rast4> it's installed as 386 and I use a 686
[06:32] <JoelMax> i need help for install ATI 1900xtx
[06:32] <davey_> rast4, if you have all the "suported software" then all the stuff i good to go
[06:32] <lxe> like ati
[06:32] <rast4> well here goes nothing
[06:32] <davey_> joelmax, get the binary drivers
[06:32] <rast4> thanks, and forgive my ignorance
[06:32] <rast4> I'm used to Slackware
[06:32] <rast4> so I'm trying to adjust here
[06:32] <rast4> :D
[06:33] <Vexmaster> rast 4 if you can you might want to look into dl'ing the dvd version and installing from text mode
[06:33] <rast4> I totally like this flavor though
[06:33] <lxe> rast4: if your comp works fine, you shouldnt change. But i'm pretty sure it wont harm it
[06:33] <JoelMax> davey_ sudo apt-get install fglrx?
[06:33] <rast4> well the only ting I have a prob with is the Nvidia drivers
[06:33] <rast4> it makes my system hang
[06:33] <rast4> then I have to resintall :(
[06:33] <davey_> joelmax, try the totroial on the OFFICAL ubuntu wiki
[06:33] <rast4> but I'm not using upgraded drivers
[06:33] <Geoffrey2> I've seen people claim the 686 version of linux runs much faster, and I've seen people post that it makes absolutely no difference at all....
[06:33] <rast4> I kepy it the same
[06:33] <Vexmaster> rast4 - you dont have to if you dont want to
[06:34] <JoelMax> davey_ do you have the link?
[06:34] <lxe> rast4: yeah installing kernel and restricted modules for 686 should help. Check the forums though, i'm not very sure
[06:34] <rast4> I didn't see the DVD version available where I downloade
[06:34] <rast4> downloaded*
[06:34] <sahasrara> what's a torrent search engine for anyhow
[06:34] <davey_> uhhh... no but if you find it privatmessage me and i can check it for you to make sure it's good suff
[06:34] <rast4> I read a ton of stuff on the Nvidia problem, and I followed it step by step and it didn't work
[06:34] <petriborg> to find torrents?
[06:34] <Maje> sahasrara: they search the internet for .torrent files...look up BitTorrent for info
[06:35] <rast4> kast question, what is the difference between linux-686 and linux-686 smp
[06:35] <rast4> last*
[06:35] <davey_> one is for multiple prossesors
[06:35] <rast4> ahh that's it. thanks
[06:36] <rast4> you guys are helpful, I appreciate it
[06:36] <sahasrara> oh, you mean b/c a software developer has to have the file specially prepared into torrents for you
[06:36] <omnid> The VMWare site makes my head hurt just looking at it
[06:36] <J8T5X7> what's appreciate?
[06:36] <omnid> It really makes itself look really important
[06:36] <rast4> it's what most people don't do and what should be done/shown when someone helps you
[06:36] <rast4> appreciation :)
[06:37] <lxe> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/appreciate
[06:37] <Geoffrey2> I was going to install the 686 kernel for Ubuntu, but then I read a post that stated it tends to make notebooks overheat.....that kind of talked me out of it
[06:37] <Maje> sahasrara: a torrent file just points to a file or several files spread on other people's computers across the world...using a client, you can download them yourself
[06:37] <omnid> To give thanks basically
[06:37] <davey_> geoffrery2 thats fake
[06:38] <davey_> geoffrery2, the cpu scales the frequency
[06:38] <davey_> it doesn't run at full powera ll the time
[06:38] <davey_> ] heck i'm running at 800 mhz right now on my athlon64
[06:38] <Rehevkor> Does Synaptic work in other window managers, like fluxbox?
[06:38] <rast4> I'm installing the 686 now so I'll let you know :D
[06:38] <davey_> when I need it it changes over to 1.6
[06:39] <davey_> ghz
[06:39] <sahasrara> thanks, Maje
[06:39] <EriK> Rehevkor:  as long as you have the gtk runtimes, it should work fine
[06:39] <rast4> rebooting with fingers crossed
[06:39] <Vexmaster> rast 4 GOOD LUCK!!
[06:39] <rast4> it downloaded and installed....here we go
[06:39] <Bassetts> to get 6.06.1 do i have to download the cd??
[06:39] <rast4> it kept 386 in the grub menu
[06:40] <sahasrara> thanks everyone, back to reading manuals and downloading
[06:40] <lxe> rast4: have fun
[06:40] <IcemanV9> 2.6.15-26-686
[06:41] <IcemanV9> i have 686 on my box - no problem (so far)
[06:41] <rast4> looks good so far
[06:41] <rast4> I won't be able to tell the difference I don't think
[06:41] <davey_> lol it's officaly supported
[06:41] <rast4> this Nvidia issue is really holding me back though
[06:41] <Maje> Bassetts: No, 6.06.1 is just an updated install CD so new users don't have to update everything. You already should have 6.06.1 if you've been installing software updates
[06:41] <Bassetts> ok Maje
[06:41] <Bassetts> yeh just finished updating my kernel to 686
[06:42] <IcemanV9> cannot help there since i have ati :/
[06:42] <davey_> i'm going to bed, night everyone
[06:42] <rast4> yeah I'm good to go, maybe a little difference in multitasking speed
[06:42] <rast4> night davey
[06:42] <EriK> nightey davey
[06:42] <Maje> Does anyone know of good CD/DVD drive emulation software?
[06:42] <rast4> thanks for the help
[06:42] <davey_> anytime
[06:42] <tomlikestorock> why doesn't my network manager icon show up in the panel?
[06:43] <EriK> maje: the isofs? stuff with fuse generally suits my needs for mounting iso's, but my needs are simple
[06:44] <evan_w00> hmmm, does ubunto have a system restore lol
[06:44] <eggauah> I'm trying to use autoreconf here but it's complaining that AM_PATH_PYTHON cant be found. where can I get the definition for this macro?
[06:45] <Maje> evan_w00: yes, it's in your system menu...backup/restore
[06:45] <evan_w00> oh ok, thanks
[06:46] <Double_D> anyone: i'm working on setting a webpage and trying to use a php script.  when i load the page through firefox, rather than display it, it asks to open it with gedit or save it.  any idea what i need to change to get it just display the page?
[06:46] <Double_D> i'm using apache2.
[06:46] <sahasrara> hi again
[06:47] <sahasrara> ok isn't this torrent thing risky? getting files from strangers, how do i know my ubuntu is safe?
[06:47] <tomlikestorock> anyone? why doesn't my network manager icon show up in the panel?
[06:47] <evan_w00> everyone uses torrents :P
[06:47] <ripper> can someone please help with my pygtk-2 problem?
[06:47] <rast4> how do you take ownership of an ntfs drive that's mounted?
[06:47] <ripper> gyach:2467): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_text_buffer_emit_insert: assertion `g_utf8_validate (text, len, NULL)' failed
[06:47] <ripper> /usr/lib/python2.4/ihooks.py:172: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module gobject: This Python has API version 1012, module gobject has version 1011.
[06:47] <ripper>   return imp.load_dynamic(name, filename, file)
[06:47] <ripper> You do not have PyGtk-2 properly installed.
[06:47] <rast4> I can't write to it and I need that access
[06:47] <EriK> sahasrara:  I believe torrent compares against known good md5 hashes, so you should be okay
[06:48] <evan_w00> best solution: virus scan :P
[06:48] <letters_9> it says I need universe and multiverse for the nvidia driver to install
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> getting where many disrtos release their .iso's on bittorent now a days
[06:48] <letters_9> but they are 2 dvd's worth and I can only download through windows, on a dialup modem
[06:48] <rast4> sahasrara: if you're willing to leech it on a torrent, why not get it from the ubuntu site?
[06:48] <sahasrara> EriK: oh ok
[06:48] <letters_9> anyone know why packages I really need for to install Nvidia driver ?
[06:49] <EriK> as long as you trust where you are getting the original tracker from, methinks you are ok
[06:49] <gdb> letters_9: you can find that out yourself.  are you in unbuntu now?
[06:49] <sahasrara> rast4: isn't it faster from torrents? and i don't have to get it all at once? i'm on dialup
[06:49] <gdb> ubuntu*
[06:49] <evan_w00> depends
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> sahasrara,  dialup and 'faster'  should never be used together :P
[06:49] <gdb> letters_9: if you are, add those 2 repositories, do an apt-get update, and then "apt-cahce depends name-of-package" -- that will list everything you need to download
[06:49] <rast4> letters_9: torrents just break it inti multiple files, that are unusable until the whole download is finished
[06:49] <evan_w00> well if your dial up, use torrent unless you have a download accelerator that can "resume"
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> sahasrara,  at least ya could download it over several days.
[06:50] <tomlikestorock> how do I make my network manager icon show up again?
[06:50] <Geoffrey2> every time I mention virus scanners and ubuntu in the same sentence, someone tries to wash my mouth out with soap... :)
[06:50] <evan_w00> :P
[06:50] <sahasrara> Dr_Willis: exactly
[06:50] <rast4> err that was to sahasrara not letters
[06:50] <rast4> soz
[06:50] <IcemanV9> Double_D: right-click on file to use a different app
[06:50] <evan_w00> i think i deleted my terminal...
[06:50] <sahasrara> evan_w00: i thought the torrent resumes where an earlier download left off
[06:50] <rast4> can someone tell me how to take ownership of an ntfs folder to be able to write to it?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> Geoffrey2,  all the linux 'virus scanner' programs are for scanning windows data files to protect windows systems. :P
[06:51] <letters_9> no, i can only connect with windows till my external dialup modem arrives
[06:51] <evan_w00> yeah they do
[06:51] <sahasrara> ok
[06:51] <Double_D> IcemanV9: okay, let me give it a shot.
[06:51] <letters_9> i cant use apt-get
[06:51] <evan_w00> its good incase you disconnect
[06:51] <letters_9> apt-cdrom works I think
[06:52] <Geoffrey2> oh, how can I make a .mid file play in mplayer?
[06:52] <sahasrara> i bet i have a download accelerator on here somewhere
[06:52] <letters_9> im not using bittorrent , i cant get this internal dialup modem to work with ubuntu ,but thats another story
[06:52] <downer> wooo
[06:52] <downer> t
[06:52] <downer> oop
[06:52] <evan_w00> man, linux's learning curve is huge.
[06:52] <tomlikestorock> nobody else has ever had this problem?
[06:52] <EriK> Geoffrey2:  I use clamav to protect users from themselves.  I don't need the protection on our linux/bsd machines, but a lot of our users need plenty of protection from themselves.
[06:52] <Double_D> IcemanV9: still does the same thing.  splash screen shows 'you have chosen to open test.php which is a php file, what do you want firefox to do,' etc.
[06:53] <sahasrara> i have Download Accelerator Plus 7.5, and Net Vampire
[06:53] <evan_w00> network icon?
[06:53] <Rehevkor> anyone know how to get fluxbox working properly on ubuntu? apparently the package in the respository is broken (nothing in the fluxbox menu) and the latest .debs for fluxbox are for debian sarge and hoary.
[06:53] <sahasrara> evan_w00: it is...... all i do is read and read, just to prepare myself to install
[06:53] <letters_9> no 3d games ubuntu style it seems till i get new modem
[06:53] <evan_w00> hmm, wait, sahasrara what are you downloading?
[06:53] <sahasrara> kubuntu
[06:54] <evan_w00> oh gosh...
[06:54] <tomlikestorock> evan_w00: yeah nm-applet runs, but I got no icon up there
[06:54] <jn> what is the best antivirus for ubuntu
[06:54] <omnid> Is VMWare free?
[06:54] <Geoffrey2> EriK, I tried install clamav....couldn't figure out how to even make it start up, and since everyone on here insisted it was totally pointless on a linux system, I just removed it
[06:54] <evan_w00> no need :)
[06:54] <sahasrara> i have a cd but it's corrupted i think... i checked and my edubuntu burn has an md5 log file, the kubuntu one doesn't and messes up on booting
[06:54] <jn> no need for antivirus?
[06:55] <IcemanV9> Double_D: odd. it should be display in FX w/o asking a question.
[06:55] <sahasrara> i don't know if the guy who downloaded the images for me still has them on his computer
[06:55] <polpak> jn: not really
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> jn,  only if you want to scan your windows partitions. :P
[06:55] <jn> lol
[06:55] <evan_w00> haha
[06:55] <sahasrara> but i burned the cd's from ubuntu (k3b?) and i don't know why one had md5 checking and the other not
[06:55] <jn> u guys use firestarted and nessus tho correct?
[06:55] <cast> uh, oh. so the install cd and livecd are one in the same?
[06:56] <Double_D> IcemanV9: it works on other servers I work with, definitely.  I'm not sure what I could have misconfigured that it forces that.  I've tried from different locations and whenever I try to access the script from my server it does the same thing.
[06:56] <sahasrara> how about AV for scanning my windows backup files?
[06:56] <SurfnKid> whats a good website creator in linux?
[06:56] <polpak> SurfnKid: there's SCREAM, or NVU, but a good ol' text editor works pretty well too (I like Jedit)
[06:56] <omnid> Your windows virii should not affect your linux installation though
[06:57] <sahasrara> and if i have one ubuntu cd can't i just copy the thing from nero? the guy who let me burn from his pc said you can't just copy images
[06:57] <omnid> well as far as I know
[06:57] <evan_w00> unless if it blows up your computer :)
[06:57] <thanatos> what is it called when you are not running any desktop managers? Text mode, console, etc  is there technical name that is commenly known
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> just to see what it installs where.
[06:57] <SurfnKid> polpak, ah ok i thought SCREEM was good, but ive got tables and theyre yucky to edit :)
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> thanatos,  the console.
[06:57] <thanatos> k
[06:57] <sahasrara> i see, omnid... but i read linux can be affected by worms
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> thanatos,  ya got X , then ya got the console.
[06:57] <polpak> SurfnKid: generally easiest to do it by hand
[06:57] <r0wd3> How do i boot ubuntu in text mode?
[06:57] <sahasrara> i was reading a little on emulators today
[06:57] <omnid> How many virii were there ever for Linux again? Something like 40?
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> r0wd3,  just kill the gdm/xdm service is one way.
[06:58] <thanatos> how do i change the resolution of the console
[06:58] <IcemanV9> Double_D: hmm. i don't know. my brain is fried. i should be in bed. sorry. :/
[06:58] <thanatos> make the text smaller
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> omnid,  but if they took advantage of an exploit in a service.. were they really for linux. :P
[06:58] <sahasrara> didn't the first worm ever affect unix?
[06:58] <evan_w00> man im so lost in linux's console >.<
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> thanatos,  thats a grub option.
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> evan_w00,  its FUNdamental! :P
[06:58] <r0wd3> IS their advantages of booting in text mode?
[06:58] <Double_D> IcemanV9: that's okay, thanks for the help.
[06:58] <evan_w00> lol
[06:58] <SurfnKid> polpak, yeah ive got this page source i want to edit, but once i see a lot of code, my eyes start crossing 0_0
[06:58] <evan_w00> noooo so many commands :P
[06:59] <evan_w00> wouldnt text mode be much stable?
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> r0wd3,  when problems arive - often you are stuck in the console to fix it...
[06:59] <sahasrara> lol evan
[06:59] <evan_w00> er
[06:59] <polpak> SurfnKid: well, if the source is properly spaced, and indented it's not too bad. But if it was created with a wysiwyg then you're pretty much SOL on that count
[06:59] <pierreth> are we having access to multiple clipboard in gnome?
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> evan_w00,  would ya rather there be no commands? :P
[06:59] <r0wd3> Thanks Dr.
[06:59] <cast> ,,so ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso *is* the livecd correct?
[06:59] <evan_w00> yep :)
[06:59] <sahasrara> i have a 2 year degree in windows programming.... all for what now that i will change to linux
[06:59] <polpak> cast: it is a live cd yes
[06:59] <omnid> Yes it's a LiveCD and installation in one!
[06:59] <evan_w00> lol
[07:00] <cast> excellent.
[07:00] <evan_w00> :P
[07:00] <polpak> sahasrara: programming what language?
[07:00] <owen_> alright, i just compiled from source a game called Sauerbraten, now what would be the command in the terminal, to run it?
[07:00] <sahasrara> commands are fun, actually ... if i know them, it's always fun to just let my finger rattle off a command
[07:00] <SurfnKid> polpak, hehe yeah
[07:00] <sahasrara> polpak: vb6.... also took a little c and sql
[07:00] <SurfnKid> polpak, i think it was created in Geo.... somethin
[07:01] <polpak> sahasrara: well the C and sql are still applicable
[07:01] <sahasrara> so i guess i can go further with c and sql or learn c++ and do alright
[07:01] <sahasrara> *nods*
[07:01] <polpak> sahasrara: and vb is evil so it's good to be rid of it
[07:01] <sahasrara> heh
[07:01] <omnid> C++ is for winners
[07:01] <polpak> sahasrara: there's C# for linux, and there's also python (my fav)
[07:01] <sahasrara> i remember how good it felt learning c
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> comal!
[07:02] <polpak> sahasrara: plenty of good languages to use for development
[07:02] <rast4> any comments on easyUbuntu? good, bad or ugly?
[07:02] <sahasrara> ok
[07:02] <omnid> I wish there was a Reason equivelent
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> rast4,  best to learn to do the installs youreslf.
[07:02] <omnid> I want Reason for Linux so bad
[07:02] <polpak> rast4: not generally necessary is my comment
[07:02] <rast4> I just like the idea of all of the programs in one central place
[07:02] <rast4> like I want the msn app
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> rast4,  it dont have all of them...
[07:03] <rast4> I don't know where to get it and these programs have the locatin
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> and oftenit dont work very good. :P learn to use synaptic.
[07:03] <rast4> Automatix does, but that ruined my shit
[07:03] <sahasrara> i downloaded 3 tutorials on software installing in linux today lol
[07:03] <polpak> rast4: use the DesktopGuide
[07:03] <evan_w00> this workspace thing... is amazing... im so windowed lol
[07:03] <rast4> Synaptic doesn't have the things I want though
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> AUtomatix is 5x worse. :P
[07:03] <polpak> rast4: chances are it does
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> rast4,   Bah! Humbug!
[07:03] <sahasrara> i'd better be able to access all these saved pages from linux!
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:03] <polpak> rast4: if you know where to look
[07:03] <rast4> yeah I HATE Automatix
[07:03] <rast4> I would think communications would be where to look in Synaptic
[07:04] <rast4> for messengers
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> thats what the 'search feature' is for.
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:04] <polpak> rast4: have you seen the desktop guide?
[07:04] <rast4> No I haven't. Link please?
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> communications = old skool definition = serial communications.
[07:04] <rast4> I know I should be rtfm'n
[07:04] <Bassetts> how can i make a grub splash image?
[07:04] <slacker> :)
[07:05] <polpak> rast4: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[07:05] <rast4> thank you
[07:05] <gummygod> im trying to install wine, anyone kno where i can get xorg-devel
[07:06] <polpak> rast4: you can also search the community docs, there's a lot of good info
[07:06] <polpak> gummygod: eh..
[07:06] <polpak> gummygod: you don't need to compile wine
[07:06] <rast4> I've been hanging there, trying to resolve my Nvidia issue
[07:06] <rast4> to no avail mind you, but yes, very helpful
[07:07] <SurfnKid> polpak, hey quick question on the editing part of screem, ive got the code window, but i want a edit preview window to change and see what im doing, is there something i should enable
[07:07] <polpak> rast4: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html
[07:07] <slacker> bloody windows!
[07:07] <slacker> ahh, it finaly responds
[07:08] <rast4> ah nice, thanks!
[07:08] <polpak> SurfnKid: I don't think there's a way to do that
[07:08] <SurfnKid> crap
[07:08] <gummygod> polpak, if it doesnt compile w/o errors/warnings wont it not work?
[07:08] <SurfnKid> might have to look it up
[07:08] <gummygod> i thought i installed it but i cant get it to work
[07:09] <polpak> gummygod: theres a repo for wine
[07:09] <polpak> gummygod: you don't need to compile it
[07:09] <polpak> gummygod: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[07:09] <gummygod> tried that twice
[07:09] <polpak> gummygod: which part gave you trouble?
[07:10] <rast4> where is this repository?
[07:10] <gummygod> i THINK i installed it correctly but when i do 'winecfg' it says x11 driver missing
[07:10] <polpak> rast4: repository for which?
[07:10] <stopher> back
[07:10] <rast4> for anything, like how is it accessed
[07:10] <polpak> gummygod: eh. then you probably didn't ;p
[07:10] <polpak> rast4: through synaptic or apt-get
[07:11] <rast4> ah ok
[07:11] <rast4> I get it
[07:11] <rast4> this Ununtu f'n rocks
[07:11] <rast4> Ubuntu
[07:11] <polpak> rast4: yes it does
[07:11] <SurfnKid> ubuntuntumbambam!
[07:11] <rast4> lol
[07:12] <gummygod> polpak: god dammit, i cant uninstall it either
[07:12] <polpak> gummygod: when compiling from source use checkinstall, or specify a prefix like /opt/pkgname so you can quickly/easily remove it
[07:13] <polpak> gummygod: but in general, don't compile from source
[07:13] <slacker> can I rant about windows and vendors which do not support unix for their applications?
[07:13] <slacker> i hate them
[07:13] <polpak> slacker: if it makes you feel better to do so
[07:14] <polpak> slacker: preferably in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:14] <gummygod> polpak: im relatively new to linux, so i dont kno what that means, but whats the 'hard' way to remove it?
[07:14] <slacker> polpak: the past hour trying to get one ********* application running
[07:14] <Ghost_Printer> Slacker: Please Rant
[07:14] <slacker> it tells me nothing
[07:14] <slacker> the logs are in csv format
[07:14] <slacker> the KVM is slow
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. all i did to get wine going was 'sudo apt-get install wine' then i ran 'wine winrarinstaller.exe'
[07:14] <slacker> and the bloody widows event logs do not show a thing
[07:15] <polpak> gummygod: the hard way is to rebuild it with a prefix, then look for the files it created, on the main location (probably /usr/local)
[07:15] <polpak> gummygod: and remove those
[07:15] <slacker> I HATE windows
[07:15] <polpak> gummygod: it probably only installed a couple of programs
[07:15] <rs31337> slacker, what were you trying to get running
[07:15] <slacker> rs31337: stupid ap for work
[07:15] <slacker> OPS server (ECI application)
[07:15] <polpak> gummygod: ls -al /usr/local/bin
[07:16] <polpak> gummygod: it probably is the only thing in there
[07:16] <thanatos> so does anyoneknow how to change the console resolution/ where to change it
[07:16] <polpak> thanatos: you specify it on boot
[07:16] <slacker> think I'm going to kill the consultant and the windows admin for this
[07:16] <thanatos> ?
[07:16] <polpak> thanatos: it's a framebuffer option
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> thanatos,  to change the res. you normally set the vga= option in the grub menu.lst or use 'vga=ask'
[07:17] <thanatos> k
[07:17] <thanatos> thx
[07:17] <thanatos> again
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> that sets the framebuffer res. Theres also some framebuffer related tools that set things on the fly
[07:18] <Shinzetsu> Hi, I have a problem described here; http://www.pastecode.com/2998
[07:18] <cry0gen> This sucks. Everytime I try to enable wireless on my system (with usb adapter) the damned system locks solid
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> Shinzetsu,  ya may want to give a littel summary. :P
[07:19] <Shinzetsu> its too big to explain =p
[07:19] <Shinzetsu> well gnome doesnt work
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> Shinzetsu,  well dont expext people to go there just to see if they MIGHT know somting bout it. lol...
[07:19] <Shinzetsu> k ill type it here then
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> ok.. gnome is not  starting up as you login?
[07:20] <Shinzetsu> now you have to wait and let me type it =p
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> gnome used to work? but now dosent? :P  .... lol
[07:20] <gummygod> polpak: there a way i can delete these files w/o command line?
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> 'i see much typing in your future!'
[07:20] <rast4> lol
[07:20] <noiesmo> does anyone know why the softwarefreedomday.org page has changed or has it moved when i google it looks like its right but then when you go there its changed overnight the google cached is correct
[07:20] <Coffeegrinds> anyone else recently affected by every site upgrading to flash 9 only?
[07:20] <Shinzetsu> I only have kubuntu-desktop installed, but I can still choose KDE, GNOME and XFCE at sessiontype. KDE works great, XFCE works great (although its 'not installed') and GNOME gives me flashing taskbar and eventually my wallaper and nothing else (it's also 'not installed')
[07:21] <polpak> gummygod: eh, there is..
[07:21] <Shinzetsu> I tried reinstalling them but no good
[07:21] <polpak> gummygod: but you have to be careful
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> Shinzetsu,  make a new user, and see if it works for him/her.
[07:21] <noiesmo> Coffeegrinds, yes I ended up installing firefox for windows with wine and then use it and you can get flash 9 for windows to install and the sites are fine
[07:21] <Coffeegrinds> I want these tubes to truck me over some youtube, but my flash says no to sound
[07:21] <Shinzetsu> Dr_Willis: okay will try
[07:22] <Coffeegrinds> hmm...
[07:22] <Coffeegrinds> i have me an idea then
[07:22] <gummygod> polpak: lets hear it, im just deleting files starting w/ wine
[07:22] <polpak> gummygod: gksudo nautilus will give you a root enabled file manager
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> Shinzetsu,  if the new user works.. then its your gnome settings that are messed up. could remove the .gnome* dirs
[07:23] <Flannel> Shinzetsu: 'not installed' being you installed, and then uninstalled _ubuntu-desktop?
[07:23] <stopher> doesn't wine make windows apps available on linux?
[07:23] <slacker> hahaaha
[07:23] <cry0gen> hahaha
[07:23] <cry0gen> BARELY
[07:23] <noiesmo> stopher, most some yes
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> stopher,  wine can run many windows programs.
[07:23] <stopher> oh
[07:23] <slacker> "a reboot a day will keep the docter away"
[07:23] <stopher> slacker: for windows yes
[07:23] <stopher> lol
[07:23] <slacker> had enough of that windows box
[07:24] <slacker> pkill windows
[07:24] <cry0gen> :\
[07:24] <stopher> awesone
[07:24] <polpak> stopher: wine works for many things, but not for many other things
[07:24] <stopher> lol
[07:24] <stopher> figures
[07:24] <slacker> just like windows
[07:24] <slacker> I think we found the missing link ;)
[07:25] <Coffeegrinds> noiesmo: got no sound though ..
[07:25] <Flannel> stopher: depending on the complexity of the program (more like, how many other libraries the program uses)
[07:25] <stopher> i see
[07:25] <godtvisken> Where are the keyboard layouts stored in the list System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layouts
[07:25] <stopher> ive heard of mIRC being used on wine
[07:25] <stopher> called mIRC on Wine
[07:25] <stopher> lol
[07:25] <noiesmo> Coffeegrinds, hmm not sure my sounds fine
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> stopher,  thats just SICK.
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:25] <stopher> sick?
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> mirc is sick.. but using it with wine.. is beyond sick. :P
[07:26] <polpak> stopher: why ruin a perfectly good os, with such a terrible irc client ;p
[07:26] <Flannel> stopher: why not just use something native?  Linux has IRC apps too you know ;)
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> and no you DONT need to run your mIRC bot.....
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:26] <Coffeegrinds> noiesmo: yeah it's weird, but ohh well I'll try another way i guess. .
[07:26] <stopher> yeah, xchat or whatever and Bitchx
[07:26] <noiesmo> Coffeegrinds, sound works everywere else i take it
[07:27] <gummygod> polpak: alright thanks, i just hope i didnt fuck something up ;)
[07:27] <Flannel> !language
[07:27] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:27] <slacker> !reboot
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reboot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <Coffeegrinds> noiesmo: no problems with anything else and it just happened a few days ago .. could just be an update i failed to notice
[07:27] <slacker> you should respond with: "windows please"
[07:27] <HellDragon> hi
[07:27] <polpak> gummygod: just removing the wine programs should be fine
[07:27] <HellDragon> i REALLY need help
[07:27] <HellDragon> X is not working anymore
[07:28] <HellDragon> i just partitionnated with partition magic
[07:28] <HellDragon> i think it broke something
[07:28] <polpak> gummygod: if you use the wine repo and reinstall everything should work
[07:28] <HellDragon> :(
[07:28] <polpak> gummygod: reinstall wine I mean
[07:28] <HellDragon> it corrupted everything
[07:28] <gummygod> lets hope so
[07:28] <polpak> gummygod: from the repo, not compiling
[07:28] <stopher> + kirc
[07:28] <gummygod> what is 'the repo' anyways
[07:28] <noiesmo> Coffeegrinds, sounds like an app might have muted sound on pcm check with say alsmixer the volumes etc would be my suggestion
[07:28] <gummygod> resaprosity (sp)
[07:28] <gummygod> ?
[07:29] <HellDragon> im in poop
[07:29] <polpak> gummygod: repository
[07:29] <gummygod> ok ill do that, later
[07:30] <birdmun> anyone program PIC's in here?
[07:30] <leio> mkay, so, I have text that wants to be invisible in edgy, and shows itself sometimes when forcing an expose redraw. Fresh dist-upgrade from ubuntu
[07:31] <leio> And hello. Any hints?
[07:32] <petriborg> not sure what you mean leio:-)
[07:32] <birdmun> i cant even get a program to install from source im sure not gonna be able to help with text issues ;)
[07:32] <dasos> when using a terminal with tab completion, the system case beeps a lot, is there a way to get this to come out of the regular speakers and not the case speaker?
[07:32] <leio> petriborg: when I switch workspace to the one where firefox is, half of the text in it is invisible
[07:32] <leio> until I select it, then it comes visible
[07:32] <leio> underlines are always shown
[07:33] <leio> it's erratic, and happens not only on workspace switches only
[07:33] <leio> happens in gnome-terminal as well
[07:33] <birdmun> dasos, have you tried muting the pc speaker?
[07:33] <petriborg> dasos, no i don't know but if you figure it out i'd like to know too :-)
[07:34] <leio> and in KDE apps it doesn't re-appear in some cases - there some certain text is and stays invisible. Such as anything inside a kate editor component
[07:34] <birdmun> all my sound comes thru my speakers
[07:34] <dasos> birdmun, muting my pc speakers?
[07:34] <davidjohnston> I am very new to linux, but very noob to ubuntu
[07:34] <birdmun> even when i boot the bios beep comes thru my speakers
[07:34] <cast> davidjohnston: aha.
[07:34] <birdmun> dasos, double click the speaker and mute the pc speaker selection
[07:35] <davidjohnston> I decided I was going to do my first install tonight and just use it as a subversion server with a basic apache install
 I am very new to linux, but very noob to ubuntu<<would that mean you are new to both? LOL
[07:35] <dasos> birdmun, pc speaker was already muted =(
[07:35] <stopher> davidjohnston you have the install with the LAMP selection
[07:35] <cast> davidjohnston: oh. easy enough. but why apache? its nontrivial to config well
[07:35] <stopher> ?
[07:35] <birdmun> oh
[07:35] <BeepAU> hey everyone, is there any way to minimize xmms to the system tray?
[07:36] <davidjohnston> stopher:  no I just mean I hadn't went through the different versions (for example: ubuntu, ubuntu server, kubuntu, etc)
[07:36] <Flannel> cast: Apache is fairly trivial.  It's already setup!
[07:36] <leio> petriborg: I was thinking the cairo bug that was recently resolved, but KDE having problems too makes me think different
[07:36] <birdmun> davidjohnston, have you tried this --> http://www.howtoforge.com/lamp_installation_ubuntu6.06
[07:36] <stopher> ohhh i see
[07:36] <davidjohnston> well I decided to go with the server install but for some reason when I load my server install disks it just refuses to do anything with them and I have to do a typical ubuntu install
[07:36] <stopher> hmm
[07:36] <davidjohnston> birdmun:  no i'll check it out
[07:36] <Shinzetsu> Dr_Willis: GNOME works on the other user, but the graphic drivers arent installed on his account yet, but it works yeah
[07:36] <cast> Flannel: for dynamic apache is a pretty good bet. but for static content i don't like it :|
[07:37] <stopher> i have a text only version, it lets me do a LAMP isntall with apache, php5, etc
[07:37] <petriborg> leio yeah, i donno man, its an odd issue- i assume nothing on google :/
[07:37] <Flannel> yeah, that's the server ISO.  Anotehr means of a bare-bones system is the alternate ISO, and type 'server' at the boot prompt
[07:37] <davidjohnston> but anyway, I have finished my ubuntu install, do you all see any problems with now just using gnome to do some slight configurations then stripping all windowing systems and unneeded stuff and then just doing all my server installs
[07:37] <leio> google-fu failing on this for me. Can't think of good keywords that wouldn't give me irrelevant stuff
[07:37] <davidjohnston> would there be any main difference from the server install...I'm not for sure what all the server version included
[07:38] <stopher> what are you searching for leio?
[07:38] <stopher> the text only lets you do server and LAMP server as far as i know. i like LAMP version, though i don't know why they called it LAMP
[07:38] <davidjohnston> i can handle the LAMP install by myself and also the subversion
[07:38] <leio> I'm searching for my text, which is fun to do if you need to pull some tricks to see the results :p
[07:38] <davidjohnston> what do you mean you don't know why they call it LAMP
[07:38] <snoops> davidjohnston well you get no X(gui) with the server installation.. just terminal
[07:39] <Ratlump> Ubuntu rules!  Does anyone know how to get OpenGL to work with Intel Corporation Mobile Integrated Graphics Controller?
[07:39] <tanlaan> Does anyone know how to change your exit text in "bitchx"?
[07:39] <Shinzetsu> I only have kubuntu-desktop installed, but I can choose KDE, GNOME or XFCE at sessiontype- KDE works great, XFCE works great (although its 'not installed'), GNOME works weird on my account (flashing taskbar, nothing else and its 'not installed') Ive tried another user and it works good there, anything that could help it make it work on my account?
[07:39] <davidjohnston> snoops:  right but if I get rid of all X after I do some initial system customizations there wouldn't be any difference after I remove all X components
[07:39] <tanlaan> I don't want to get banned from here :D
[07:39] <Flannel> davidjohnston: the "server ISO" installs some server optomized kernels, as to what is different for them, I'm not certain.  Theres also a LAMP pre-configure option.  However, stripping everything odwn takes a lot of work, youre better off with the alternate ISO with a 'server' install (which is just the ordinary base (non graphical) system, without special kernels)
[07:39] <gdb> Shinzetsu: "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" to make sure it's all installed, perhaps? ;-)
[07:39] <Flannel> Shinzetsu: 'not installed' being you installed, and then uninstalled _ubuntu-desktop?
[07:40] <Shinzetsu> yes
[07:40] <NickGarvey> tanlaan: bitchx is a command line client right?  if it is, I expect its a config file somewhere
[07:40] <davidjohnston> i have the server iso it just won't load properly on the system I'm using which is quite old
[07:40] <Shinzetsu> oh wait
[07:40] <Shinzetsu> I meant
[07:40] <davidjohnston> is there any reason this should happen
[07:40] <Shinzetsu> I have kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop
[07:40] <NickGarvey> !opengl > Ratlump
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <NickGarvey> oh thats pretty sweet
[07:40] <petriborg> dasos - http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2053553
[07:40] <NickGarvey> tanlaan: second, lemme look it up
[07:40] <rast4> I've been trying to search through the docs and forums, but I can't find out how to get permissions for a mounted NTFS volume
[07:41] <rast4> I need write permissions
[07:41] <Shinzetsu> gdb, Flannel: I got ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop, XFCE still works for some reason, and GNOME is weird only on my account
[07:41] <leio> stopher: http://ucw.dustbite.net/pics/varia/invisible_text.png
[07:41] <davidjohnston> i'm find with command line and everything I just need to get the server install to work and I don't know of a way to do a network server install
[07:41] <stopher> ohh i see what you're talking about now
[07:41] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Do you have any customizations that you're looking to preserve?
[07:41] <Flannel> Shinzetsu: If you uninstall the meta packages (ubuntu-desktop, etc), it doesn't remove all the components
[07:41] <davidjohnston> for some reason a regular ubuntu cd boots properly as do Kubuntu and Xubuntu but not the server iso
[07:42] <Ratlump> Thanks NickGarvey!
[07:42] <BeepAU> hey everyone, is there any way to minimize xmms to the system tray?
[07:42] <Shinzetsu> Flannel: how do I reinstall them 'fully' then?
[07:42] <davidjohnston> does anyone know if it's possible to do a server network install
[07:42] <cast> BeepAU: google!
[07:42] <davidjohnston> or is that just not possible
[07:42] <Shinzetsu> gdb: I only need the standard Ubuntu GNOME
[07:42] <Colossal> nub question: entering in a command line in terminal (to launch a program w/ wine) the filepath has a space in it and terminal doesnt recognize it, anyway to get around that?
[07:42] <leio> backslash before space or quote marks
[07:42] <NickGarvey> Ratlump: having some issues.. Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at wiki.ubuntu.com.
[07:42] <safrican_> is there a separate channel for Ubuntu Edgy ?
[07:42] <dasos> petriborg, ah, i should've looked in the preferences, looks like i can turn off the system beep, though i'm wondering if is a good idea to have it competely off
[07:42] <tanlaan> Does anyone know how to change the exit text for "bitchx"??
[07:42] <Flannel> Shinzetsu: just reinstall their meta packages (install ubuntu-desktop, etc)
[07:42] <Shinzetsu> Colossal: cd to the directory, then wine file.exe
[07:42] <NickGarvey> Ratlump: give me a second ;)
[07:42] <NickGarvey> tanlaan: did you see what I said?
[07:43] <davidjohnston> also am I just confused or does 'su' not work in ubuntu
[07:43] <Flannel> safrican_: #ubuntu+1
[07:43] <Colossal> thanks that makes sense :D
[07:43] <davidjohnston> i can use sudo but not su
[07:43] <Flannel> davidjohnston: there is no root user, use sudo instead
[07:43] <petriborg> dasos, i donno, its the only way i know how to do it
[07:43] <Shinzetsu> Flannel: I have reinstalled ubuntu-desktop, but it doesnt work on my account, it works fine on an other account
[07:43] <NickGarvey> !root > davidjohnston
[07:43] <safrican_> Flannel, ah thanks
[07:43] <BeepAU> cast -- well i installed what google told me was the plugin, but it isn't doing anything.
[07:43] <petriborg> it does seem to work at least
[07:43] <davidjohnston> oh...wow, just curious, why no root
[07:43] <rs31337> davidjohnston, sudo -i
[07:43] <Shinzetsu> Flannel: (user account)
[07:43] <NickGarvey> davidjohnston: security measure
[07:43] <petriborg> xterm has a way to turn it off just for its program but gnome-terminal seems to have no such power
[07:44] <Flannel> Shinzetsu: You might have something else going on then.
[07:44] <davidjohnston> yea I see the security precautions but if you manager your system well then su shouldn't be a problem
[07:44] <snoops> Colossal yeah.. you could encapsulate the full path in double quotes "/path here" or you can escape it.. /path\ here
[07:44] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Ok, then you may want to head to http://psychocats.freecontrib.org/ and click on the link "Pure GNOME" and follow the directions there.  If there are no configurations you wish to preserve on your account, then you can delete all the .gnome*, .gtk*, .gconf*, .nautilus, .metacity, etc directories in your account (while not logged in to GNOME) and then log into GNOME with a "clean slate."
[07:44] <NickGarvey> Ratlump: this might help a little bit maybe :)
[07:44] <NickGarvey> Ratlump: http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:fbZKWek0MUAJ:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI+ubuntu+opengl+wiki&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=10&client=firefox-a
[07:44] <davidjohnston> and I'm sorry if I missed it but did anyone say if it's possible to do a network install of Ubuntu Server
[07:44] <Shinzetsu> gdb: Where do I find these files?
[07:44] <NickGarvey> Ratlump: or http://tinyurl.com/qej8x
[07:44] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Sorry, that website is http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[07:44] <gdb> Shinzetsu: In your home directory.
[07:45] <NickGarvey> davidjohnston: oh I think you can..
[07:45] <Shinzetsu> gdb: Thanks!
[07:45] <NickGarvey> davidjohnston: well from one computer to another
[07:45] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Sure thing!
[07:45] <davidjohnston> i read you couldn't...I would love to know how
[07:45] <davidjohnston> oh so load the cd from one cd
[07:45] <davidjohnston> or from another machine
[07:46] <NickGarvey> davidjohnston: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75372.html
[07:46] <NickGarvey> davidjohnston: that might help
[07:46] <Shinzetsu> gdb: Well it tells you to remove Kubuntu and Xubuntu, ive done the Xubuntu remove anyway, but no 'ubuntu reinstall'
[07:46] <Shinzetsu> gdb: as in the -desktop's
[07:46] <NickGarvey> davidjohnston: altohugh it looks like the links don't work in that thread
[07:46] <Ratlump> NickGarvey: Are you saying that the ATI drivers work for Intel GMA ?
[07:47] <NickGarvey> Ratlump: no idea, the wiki is down right now, I'm not sure much about graphics drivers
[07:47] <NickGarvey> Ratlump: when it comes back up things will get much easier
[07:47] <Shinzetsu> gdb: oh crap I think I deleted everything now
[07:47] <holycow> !packages
[07:47] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[07:47] <davidjohnston> ok well I'll check it out and see if I can get anything anyway...I appreciate it
[07:47] <holycow> !repositories
[07:47] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:47] <NickGarvey> davidjohnston: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot that might help (when the wiki comes up)
[07:47] <Shinzetsu> gdm: hang on for a sec
[07:48] <gdb> Shinzetsu: To what are you referring?  KDE and XFCE or the configurating settings for your GNOME desktop?
[07:48] <davidjohnston> the last link didn't load
[07:48] <DamianFinol> Good evening, I have a question, I'm running a dual head setup and Gnome as Desktop Environment. I would like for the application taskbar to extend the second monitor. Any ideas? I can create a new panel and move it to the other monitor, but only to put quick launch applications in there.
[07:48] <NickGarvey> davidjohnston: wiki is down rigth now
[07:48] <davidjohnston> NickGarvey:  yea I figured
[07:48] <birdmun> BeepAU, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21789&highlight=xmms+tray
[07:48] <Shinzetsu> gdm: I deleted xubuntu-desktop and now it removed my KDE aswell =[
[07:49] <Shinzetsu> gdb*: ^, brb
[07:49] <aFlag> hello, I'm trying to set up apache for a friend, but I can't figure out why it's not working. It's apache2 that I'm trying to run. I start it and it seems to listen to the port and all. netstat gives me tcp6       0      0 *:www                   *:*                     OUA and the ps command tells me apache is running. But if I try to connect to the localhost it simple doesn't answer. Any ideas?
[07:49] <davidjohnston> anyway ubuntu has gotten so much hype for a while I decided to attempt a switch...these are just my personal machines for home and testing
[07:49] <S0me1> DamianFinol: config Xorg file
[07:49] <DamianFinol> Is not a xorg file thing.
[07:49] <DamianFinol> It's a gnome thing.
[07:49] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Well, if you want KDE back, then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and if you want XFCE installed "properly" then also apt-get install xubuntu-desktop.  All 3 desktops can co-exist on the same machine.
[07:49] <davidjohnston> anyway, do you think ubuntu is worth the switch...i'm moving from a SuSe system
[07:50] <davidjohnston> i still don't know much about apt
[07:50] <Shinzetsu> gdb: I know but I think I got all of them now half-coruped =p
[07:50] <holycow> davidjohnston, the only real way is to just try it ... other peoples opinion will usually not address your needs
[07:50] <Shinzetsu> gdb: I think ill just uninstall everything then turn it into pure kde then install gnome
[07:50] <Shinzetsu> gdb: brb
[07:50] <davidjohnston> holycow:  very true and this is why I am trying it
[07:50] <BeepAU> birdmun -- thanks. i'll check it out.
[07:50] <tanlaan> Does anyone know how to change the exiting message for "bitchx"?
[07:50] <aFlag> I've tried telnet 127.0.0.1 80 and I don't get any answer
[07:50] <S0me1> DamianFinol: if you need ues dual monitor you must setup xorg to accept that
[07:51] <gdb> davidjohnston: I come from a Red Hat background going back to 1996 (having used Linux since 1994) and recently moved to Ubuntu.  I'm born again when it comes to Debian style package management.
[07:51] <davidjohnston> gdb:  so you prefer apt then
[07:51] <Werdna> hey guys, what ftpd would you recommend?
[07:51] <holycow> gdb, amen
[07:51] <DamianFinol> S0me1,  Did you read my question correctly?
[07:51] <Flannel> aFlag: you're using apache2 from the repositories?
[07:51] <gdb> davidjohnston: By far!
[07:51] <DamianFinol> Good evening, I have a question, I'm running a dual head setup and Gnome as Desktop Environment. I would like for the application taskbar to extend the second monitor. Any ideas? I can create a new panel and move it to the other monitor, but only to put quick launch applications in there.
[07:51] <aFlag> yes
[07:51] <holycow> Werdna, proftpd is fine, vsftpd is amazing ... just amazingly fast
[07:51] <noiesmo> apt-get has super cow powers it rocks!
[07:51] <davidjohnston> gdb:  so honestly I have never used a debian based system...is apt just a software manager or more
[07:51] <brlancer> where is a list of US mirrors?
[07:51] <davidjohnston> like yast in SuSe
[07:52] <NickGarvey> noiesmo: heh, nice little easter egg eh?
[07:52] <DamianFinol> I already have dual head setup, in fact, Xchat is runnin in the second monitor. I just want to extend the gnome application bar to cover both monitors.
[07:52] <NickGarvey> davidjohnston: apt-get is package management (sort of like smart if you have used that)
[07:52] <S0me1> ok i get your point
[07:52] <DamianFinol> Ok ;)
[07:52] <holycow> davidjohnston, pretty much, except it 'works' ... i switched to debian back in the suse 8.2 days actually and just hated yast
[07:52] <davidjohnston> NickGarvey:  ok I understand
[07:52] <NickGarvey> davidjohnston: there is a GUI, synaptic
[07:52] <S0me1> this is normal
[07:52] <aFlag> Flannel, yes
[07:52] <S0me1> :)
[07:52] <davidjohnston> i don't like GUIs
[07:53] <birdmun> tanlaan, locate BitchX.quit
[07:53] <Werdna> holy_cow, ok
[07:53] <davidjohnston> so is there a command line system config tool
[07:53] <holycow> heh i used not understand how one can work without gui but now ... guis get in the way indeed
[07:53] <godtvisken> Where are the keyboard layouts stored in the list System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layouts ?
[07:53] <Shinzetsu> gdb: what dm do you use?
[07:53] <davidjohnston> guis are definitely way too much trouble
[07:53] <gdb> davidjohnston: Well, to be fair, the analogue to rpm is really dpkg, not apt.  But to clarify, while they are both "package managers" the dpkg system keeps track of far more information (with an exception I'll get to) in regards to package "state" information on disk.  For example, dpkg will keep track of what are called "selections" which refers to packages that are installed, partially installed, have been remove, have been purged (there is a difference fro
[07:54] <Shinzetsu> gdb: im using KDE for a loong time but ive been attracted to gnome lately
[07:54] <NickGarvey> davidjohnston: apt-get is the command line, "man apt-get"
[07:54] <gdb> Shinzetsu: GNOME
[07:54] <tanlaan> Well I guess noone knows, so I hope that I won't get banned for getting off :-/
[07:54] <birdmun> tanlaan, locate BitchX.quit
[07:54] <NickGarvey> godtvisken: you want the locate of the keymap files or how to change it?
[07:54] <thanatos> how do i get the console to look like it does in knoppix?
[07:54] <godtvisken> NickGarvey: locate the files
[07:54] <ripper> anyone know how i can change the default applications used by firefox to handle irc links?
[07:54] <pyd> Tab-completion is not working with IRB (ruby).  I'm going to follow these instructions (http://modzer0.cs.uaf.edu/hank-typo/articles/2006/07/05/make-irb-do-tab-completion) but I can't find the /ext directory.  Any ideas?
[07:54] <tanlaan> birdmun thank you :)
[07:55] <birdmun> google should be your friend
[07:55] <NickGarvey> godtvisken: /usr/share/kbd/keymaps/i386/
[07:55] <birdmun> :P
[07:55] <holycow> gdb, you should put that on the wiki, that is a very good answer,  plus whatever else you are going to add to that
[07:55] <gdb> davidjohnston: Because of this "state information" you're able to take "snapshops" (sans version information) of your installed software, allowing you to move from one set of installed software to another with a few simple commands.  The only feature missing from dpkg/apt/etc that I found useful in rpm is the rpm -v command to verify the installed files against what's installed by the package itself.
[07:55] <NickGarvey> godtvisken: then probably qwerty/us.map.gz
[07:55] <gdb> er rpm -V
[07:55] <NickGarvey> godtvisken: if you use qwerty
[07:55] <BeepAU> when i try to enable the status docklet plugin in xmms, it closes itself, why would it do this
[07:56] <BeepAU> when i try to enable the status docklet plugin in xmms, it closes itself, why would it do this?
[07:56] <davidjohnston> NickGarvey:  yea i will check out apt-get in the morning.  I built the system and then came to bed...apparently sshd doesn't start automatically so I can't access it from bed right now
[07:56] <NickGarvey> davidjohnston: if you install sshd through apt-get it should start on its own..
[07:56] <birdmun> BeepAU, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=61744&highlight=xmms+system+tray
[07:57] <skwashd> hi all
[07:57] <birdmun> 'llo
[07:57] <pyd> hi
[07:57] <skwashd> is help down atm?
[07:57] <gdb> davidjohnston: Packages that have been "removed" have the program files removed, but the configuration files are left in place.  This allows you to reinstall a package with your configuration already in place.  To purge a package also removes those configuration files.  A package that is "partially installed" has been unpacked into the filesystem but has not been set up either via a postinst script or via user intervention.  A package that has been partially 
[07:57] <davidjohnston> oh so it isn't even installed then probably if it wasn't part of the base install which is all I did at the moment because i planned on stripping it
[07:57] <pyd> Anyone know how to enable tab-completion for IRB (ruby) on Dapper?  I found this link, but don't see an /ext directory anywhere in my ubuntu: http://modzer0.cs.uaf.edu/hank-typo/articles/2006/07/05/make-irb-do-tab-completion
[07:58] <NickGarvey> skwashd: yes :(
[07:58] <gdb> davidjohnston: One problem with removing packages that dpkg/apt does not handle (and neither does rpm, unless they're part of the package) is the removal of what are called 'dangling symlinks', symlinks which are in the filesystem but do not point to anything.  This is really the fault of package maintainers that do not remove these files in their postrm scripts.  You can install the package "symlinks" and run the command "sudo symlinks -dr /*" after removing
[07:58] <birdmun> pyd, stupid Q you have ruby-1.8.4 installed?
[07:59] <BeepAU> birdmun -- thankyou, but none of this helps me.
[07:59] <pyd> birdmun: yes
[07:59] <skwashd> NickaNicka: anyone know when it is likely to be back?
[07:59] <skwashd> it is ping-able
[07:59] <davidjohnston> I will have to try to get my server install disks to work tomorrow or find a way to do it from another machine
[07:59] <stopher> linux would be easier with commands like DOS has
[07:59] <NickGarvey> skwashd: no idea, yeah I pinged it too
[07:59] <NickGarvey> stopher: are you joking?
[07:59] <gdb> holycow: Thanks for the vote of confidence. ;-)
[07:59] <stopher> No...
[07:59] <holycow> gdb, thanks for that symlinks tip, i didn't know that
[07:59] <sethk> stopher, you aren't serious, I hope
[07:59] <holycow> gdb, no serious, thats great info, please wiki that
[07:59] <NickGarvey> stopher: the linux command line in my opinion is much much much more powerful than dos
[07:59] <gdb> The symlinks package is is repository Universe, btw.
[07:59] <davidjohnston> stopher: really, how the hell do you figure
[07:59] <pyd> birdmun: $whereis ruby... poked around but cannot find /ext.  Also have libncurses5 and libreadlin5
[07:59] <gdb> er is in
[07:59] <NickGarvey> skwashd: if you know _exactly_ what you are looking for then you might be able to find the cache on google.com
[07:59] <skwashd> stopher: like format /u c: ? ;)
[08:00] <sethk> stopher, I use the linux command line in windows, because the dos command line is so useless
[08:00] <sethk> stopher, perhaps you haven't found the terminal?
[08:00] <skwashd> NickGarvey: yeah thinking bout that now
[08:00] <stopher> DOS is easier to memorize..if you know the sub-prompts you can get full coverage
[08:00] <NickGarvey> sethk: same :)
[08:00] <davidjohnston> I just want to run a machine with command line only...i can't imagine living without a termainal
[08:00] <tjb13> whats the best gnome nzb capable newsgroup app
[08:00] <tjb13> ?
[08:00] <stopher> like linux is mV to change dirs or something, DOS is CD=Change Directory
[08:00] <thanatos> how do i get the console to look like it does in knoppix?
[08:00] <Flannel> davidjohnston: get the alternate ISO, or the server ISO.
[08:00] <NickGarvey> stopher: heh, cd is change dir too
[08:00] <Flannel> stopher: no, mv is MOVE as in, move a file
[08:01] <NickGarvey> stopher: mv is to move files...
[08:01] <davidjohnston> Flannel:  i have the server iso but it won't load for some reason on my machine
[08:01] <stopher> ohh
[08:01] <stopher> k?
[08:01] <NickGarvey> davidjohnston: whats not working?
[08:01] <davidjohnston> all other versions will
[08:01] <stopher> davidjohnston: you use a ISO burner?
[08:01] <stopher> you can't just copy the ISO to a disk
[08:01] <NickGarvey> davidjohnston: like how far does it get
[08:01] <Flannel> davidjohnston: perhaps you burned it too quckly, 4x is recommended speed
[08:01] <davidjohnston> NickGarvey:  it just starts booting from the cd then goes no further
[08:02] <davidjohnston> I did do it on 4x
[08:02] <gdb> davidjohnston: If you're really serious about investigating or performing a migration from SuSE to Ubuntu (and thus a Debian system) then I'd highly recommend the Martin F. Krafft book "The Debian System: Concepts and Techniques" which covers not only some of the nity grity of what makes a Debian operating system uniquely "Debian" but also delves into the politics and behind the scenes work that goes into engineering a Debian based operating system (in this c
[08:02] <davidjohnston> yea I also used an iso burner
[08:02] <NickGarvey> davidjohnston: do you get that inital prompt at the start before you boot it? which asks which kernel or something
[08:02] <ripper> anyone know if there is a .deb for pygtk-2?
[08:02] <davidjohnston> no I never even get that far
[08:02] <NickGarvey> ripper: I expect.. you can apt-cache search pygtk or "apt-cache search python | grep gtk"
[08:03] <crimsun> !info python-gtk2
[08:03] <ubotu> python-gtk2: Python bindings for the GTK+ widget set. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.6-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 33 kB, installed size 80 kB
[08:03] <NickGarvey> davidjohnston: oh.. thats not good
[08:03] <davidjohnston> Nick:  trust me I know
[08:03] <NickGarvey> crimsun: that works too ;)
[08:03] <sethk> stopher, of course you can copy an iso to a disk.
[08:03] <NickGarvey> heh
[08:03] <davidjohnston> but the other distros of ubuntu go fine
[08:03] <NickGarvey> davidjohnston: is it the right arch?  (only thing I can think of)
[08:03] <stopher> you can copy an ISO to a disk, but if you can browse the files, not all drives will pick it up..it has to be bootables
[08:04] <davidjohnston> yea i thought that was possible too so I redownloaded
[08:04] <sethk> stopher, not true at all.  you are seriously confused.
[08:04] <davidjohnston> stopher: tried that too
[08:04] <davidjohnston> I used a iso loader
[08:04] <davidjohnston> an iso loader
[08:04] <stopher> sethk: it depends what kinda drive you're using. im not seriously confuzed at all..my drives reject non-iso boot disks
[08:05] <davidjohnston> and tried to do the install from a different machine with the iso mounted on one machine and do the install over the network but it didn't work either
[08:05] <sethk> stopher, now you are inverting what you said before.  In any event, the fact that an disk is, or isn't, bootable is entirely irrelevant
[08:05] <NickGarvey> davidjohnston: if the cd just dies rigth off the rip like that.. I don't think net booting will help..
[08:05] <davidjohnston> yea I don't either
[08:05] <NickGarvey> davidjohnston: have you tried a breezy disk or something? and then upgrading?
[08:06] <stopher> I said... you may need to use a ISO BURNER which makes it NON BROWSABLE and BOOTABLE i am not inverting
[08:06] <davidjohnston> breezy disk??/
[08:06] <davidjohnston> sorry you stumped me with that one
[08:06] <NickGarvey> davidjohnston: breezy = ubuntu before dapper
[08:06] <sethk> stopher, that's simply false.  There is no such thing as an "iso burner"
[08:06] <cast> gdb: so what does rpm -v do that apt/dpkg doesnt?
[08:06] <davidjohnston> no I haven't actually
[08:06] <NickGarvey> davidjohnston: (I'm saying, try a past version and see if you can upgrade from there)
[08:06] <sethk> stopher, you are confused about what is done by hardware and what is done by software
[08:06] <stopher> go to download.com and look up ISO BURNER...its software...DU
[08:06] <ubuntu> gdb:  you there
[08:06] <stopher> no im not sethk
[08:06] <davidjohnston> right
[08:07] <ubuntu> gdb: I totally screwed it up, I tried removing xubuntu and it remove kubuntu aswell, I cant access my system now, im on a live cd
[08:07] <davidjohnston> I will definitely give that shot tomorrow
[08:07] <NickGarvey> davidjohnston: good luck :)
[08:07] <sethk> stopher, seems like you are.  because everything you have said, so far, doesn't track.
[08:07] <ubuntu> gdb: its me shinzetsu
[08:07] <stopher> it does, cuz i can't get non-iso-burned disks to run, i have to go to BURN ISO and locate the .iso file and burn it
[08:07] <godtvisken> How can I make my own keymap?
[08:08] <davidjohnston> thanks man and thanks to you all...i'll give it another run tomorrow, i've only been at it about 1.5 hours tonight anyway just thought I would see if I could get any good ideas and you all have been very helpful
[08:08] <sethk> stopher, a cd neither runs nor doesn't run.
[08:08] <Shinzetsu> gdb: also when I try and remove/install anything it gives me an error that it cant delete 'scim-gtk2-something'  and tells me to dpkg --configure -a, but it wont go away
[08:08] <stopher> sethk i think you are the one confuzed
[08:08] <stopher> google and download.com search for ISO BURNER you will find with some drives (most) you need to BURN IT AS BOOTABLE ISO  not just copy it
[08:08] <davidjohnston> thanks again guys
[08:08] <davidjohnston> night all
[08:09] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Er, what, exactly, did you do?
[08:09] <Pntkl> Hello
[08:09] <Shinzetsu> gdb: remove xubuntu-desktop, and it removed kubuntu with it aswell
[08:09] <gdb> Shinzetsu: The commands on the "Pure GNOME" page simply remove the KDE packages in one step, and the XFCE packages in another.
[08:09] <Shinzetsu> gdb: I know
[08:09] <Shinzetsu> gdb: well anyway I cant install anything because of that ^ in recovery mode
[08:10] <gdb> Shinzetsu: xubuntu-desktop is a package which depends on others, but on which nothing depends.
[08:10] <gdb> hrm
[08:10] <gdb> Shinzetsu: What was the command you used?
[08:10] <Pntkl> I'll think about it
[08:10] <Shinzetsu> gdb: sudo apt-get remove <heckload of all the xubuntu packages>
[08:10] <sethk> stopher, an ISO format cd may be bootable, or may not be bootable.  One burns an iso file system to a CD in either case.
[08:11] <acab_> hi to all
[08:11] <sethk> stopher, the structure of the ISO impacts whether it is bootable, but not whether it can be burned.
[08:11] <SurfnKid> polpak, nvu has preview editing, SCREEM doesnt.. but nvu is memory hungry
[08:11] <sethk> stopher, if you mean that you use a program to burn an iso image to a cd, that's true, but so what?
[08:11] <Shinzetsu> gdb: I should be able to access my harddrive if I add it in fstab
[08:11] <acab_> could i ask something about xinerama?
[08:11] <gdb> Shinzetsu: And what package is it complaining about now?
[08:11] <polpak> SurfnKid: I hate wysiwygs anyway, but to each his/her own
[08:12] <polpak> SurfnKid: I'll stick with jedit
[08:12] <Shinzetsu> gdb: something scimm-gtk2-something
[08:12] <mdious> hi everyone
[08:13] <rast4> someone asked earlier if there was a backup/restore program in Ubuntu, what was the answer?
[08:13] <Shinzetsu> gdb: I really dont know what to do now
[08:13] <darth_gimp> how do I locate my Kernel Source?
[08:13] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Odd, there's no package named anything like that in the command on the Pure Gnome page (which I've used myself).  When you boot your machine, do you get a login manager?
[08:13] <DamianFinol> I already have dual head setup, in fact, Xchat is runnin in the second monitor. I just want to extend the task barto cover both monitors.
[08:13] <acab_> have you never tried xinerama?
[08:13] <cowmilk> what command do i do to find out what 2 days and 9 hours from now is?
[08:13] <PORDO> how can one make two monitors get treated like one wide monitor, so that maximizing a window, for instance, causes it to span both monitors?
[08:13] <stopher> i was SAYING THAT!! it will BURN but not BOOT... ENGLISH!!! ITS CALLED ENGLISH!!
[08:13] <DamianFinol> Good evening, I have a question, I'm running a dual head setup and Gnome as Desktop Environment. I would like for the application taskbar to extend the second monitor. Any ideas? I can create a new panel and move it to the other monitor, but only to put quick launch applications in there.
[08:13] <Shinzetsu> gdb: Nope, I have none
[08:13] <gdb> To be fair, there are a couple of scim-packages but not gtk
[08:13] <PORDO> stopher easy superman, don't fall out of your wheelchair.
[08:13] <Shinzetsu> gdb: And I cant install one because that gtk2 thing is stuck
[08:13] <gdb> Shinzetsu: So what you're saying is that there is no display manager that comes up?
[08:14] <NickGarvey> cowmilk: um, date says what time it is now
[08:14] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Which desktops do you believe to be installed?
[08:14] <godtvisken> How can I make my own keymap?
[08:14] <Shinzetsu> gdb: I get a Kubuntu loading screen which froze
[08:14] <darth_gimp> anyone?
[08:14] <cowmilk> NickGarvey: that i know
[08:14] <PORDO> godtvisken i wrote a lovely piece about that.  lemme dig it up.
[08:14] <Shinzetsu> gdb: I want KDE and Gnome
[08:14] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Do you have ubuntu-desktop installed?
[08:14] <NickGarvey> godtvisken: um.. well.. I know how you would..
[08:14] <Shinzetsu> gdb: I have none I think
[08:14] <cowmilk> NickGarvey: but i need something that does time/date math, you know what i mean?
[08:14] <Shinzetsu> gdb: Cant check it in a terminal or can I
[08:14] <stopher> lol PORDO
[08:14] <noiesmo> darth_gimp, kernel source if installed is in /usr/src/
[08:14] <NickGarvey> godtvisken: but its beyond me explaining over IRC.. PORDO's article should do it tohugh
[08:14] <godtvisken> PORDO: cool, thanks
[08:14] <darth_gimp> noiesmo, let me check..
[08:15] <NickGarvey> cowmilk: yes.. let me see if there is something.. "cal" shows the calendar..
[08:15] <zoidberg> hey guys i have a question
[08:15] <cowmilk> NickaNicka: ok. but... 8-)
[08:15] <darth_gimp> noiesmo, ok it isn't... how do I fix that?
[08:15] <sethk> Shinzetsu, I have scim-gtk2-immodule
[08:15] <PORDO> godtvisken http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90040
[08:15] <PORDO> i use an esperanto keymap i made myself.
[08:15] <PORDO> that explains how i did it.
[08:15] <NickGarvey> cowmilk: yeah no idea, can't find anything
[08:15] <Shinzetsu> sethk: YES thats it
[08:15] <sethk> Shinzetsu, that's a valid package for breezy
[08:15] <zoidberg> when i start my pc (Dell Optipolex PII 350 MHZ 128 RAM) and it is loading all the scripts when it gets to "starting PCMCIA services" it says FAILED....what does PCMCIA services have to do with my system...sound?
[08:16] <cowmilk> NickGarvey: ok. thanks anyway.
[08:16] <Shinzetsu> sethk: thats the one
[08:16] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Ok, do you know about single user mode?
[08:16] <gdb> Shinzetsu: And how to boot into it?
[08:16] <Shinzetsu> gdb: sort of
[08:16] <godtvisken> PORDO: thanks
[08:16] <NickGarvey> init 1 :)
[08:16] <PORDO> np
[08:16] <sethk> Shinzetsu, I didn't here the whole conversation, what did you need about that package?
[08:16] <Shinzetsu> gdb: do you mean recovery mode?
[08:16] <DamianFinol> Good evening, I have a question, I'm running a dual head setup and Gnome as Desktop Environment. I would like for the application taskbar to extend the second monitor. Any ideas? I can create a new panel and move it to the other monitor, but only to put quick launch applications in there.
[08:16] <noiesmo> sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15 if running a 2.6.15 kernel uname -r will display kernel
[08:16] <Shinzetsu> sethk: I have no display manager, and I cannot install one because scim-gtk2-immodule  is stuck
[08:16] <zoidberg> can anyone help me?
[08:16] <sethk> Shinzetsu, recovery mode usually means booting from cd.  single user mode is for configuring the system but doing a normalish boot.
[08:16] <darth_gimp> noiesmo, I am running dapper
[08:17] <sethk> Shinzetsu, stuck in that you can't install it for some reason?
[08:17] <Shinzetsu> sethk: hm
[08:17] <NickGarvey> zoidberg: pcmcia is a special slot used in laptops, not an issue if you have a desktop
[08:17] <Shinzetsu> sethk: error removing
[08:17] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Then you may want to boot to single user mode and run "dpkg-reconfigure gdm" and tell the system you want to use gdm over kdm.  We know that kdm is broken, but perhaps gdm is working.  I don't know if dpkg will allow you to do that with a broken package system, but it's something to try to get your display working.  Once you're back in gnome, we can troubleshoot further.
[08:17] <noiesmo> darth_gimp, thats fine same kernel source code
[08:17] <sethk> Shinzetsu, you'll have to use some of the force-xxxx flags with dpkg do get yourself going again.
[08:17] <gdb> Unless sethk has some ideas that are more helpful.
[08:17] <darth_gimp> noiesmo, thanks...
[08:17] <Shinzetsu> gdb: dont you mean dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[08:17] <sethk> Shinzetsu, I have to walk the dog, but I'll be back.  meanwhile others can help I'm sure.
[08:18] <noiesmo> darth_gimp, np once its instaled you ll have to unpack etc
[08:18] <Awesome-o2000> sethk, get a neapolitan mastiff
[08:18] <gdb> Shinzetsu: No, I mean gdm.  We're assuming that your X server is working fine, we'd be looking to change the display manager.
[08:18] <sethk> Shinzetsu, no, he meant what he said (about dpkg-reconfigure)
[08:18] <Shinzetsu> sethk:okay, cheers mate
[08:18] <Shinzetsu> gdb: ah okay
[08:18] <sethk> Awesome-o2000, I've just got a mutt, from the bound, but we like him.  :)
[08:18] <sethk> brb
[08:18] <darth_gimp> noiesmo, ok I have no clue about this stuff.. I just want to get my tablet working...
[08:18] <Shinzetsu> gdb: so how do I go about doing it? I cant access my harddrive
[08:18] <Shinzetsu> gdb: well only a terminal (recovery mode)
[08:18] <Shinzetsu> gdb: or I have to add it in this live cd's fsta
[08:18] <PORDO> godtvisken did that page answer your question?
[08:19] <Shinzetsu> gdb: fstab*
[08:19] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Yes, that's fine, using single user mode, recovery console, etc.
[08:19] <gdb> Shinzetsu: no, you'll be booting off your hard disk, not the live cD
[08:19] <gdb> er not the live CD
[08:19] <Shinzetsu> gdb: yes its a root console
[08:19] <Shinzetsu> gdb: okay
[08:19] <mdious> speaking of tablets, does anyone know if the monitors will last...I mean you always seem to be twisting them around and folding them up...
[08:19] <Shinzetsu> gdb: but I have no IRC there ;p
[08:19] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Sure you do, it's called "irssi" and it's installed by default.  Write down this command to use it
[08:19] <Shinzetsu> gdb: Could we talk in DCC?
[08:19] <lo> mdious: they should be ok.
[08:20] <NickGarvey> !pm
[08:20] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[08:20] <Shinzetsu> k
[08:20] <dasos> is there a way to change the cwd in a shortcut (the ones in the application menu)
[08:20] <NickGarvey> (I'm curious too ;))
[08:20] <lo> the ones I've seen stop working  , were flat plastic ribbon cable
[08:20] <Shinzetsu> gdb: lemme get pen and paper
[08:20] <gdb> Shinzetsu: "irssi -c irc.freenode.net -n Shinzetsu" and once you're on, do "/join #ubuntu"
[08:20] <DamianFinol> Good evening, I have a question, I'm running a dual head setup and Gnome as Desktop Environment. I would like for the application taskbar to extend the second monitor. Any ideas? I can create a new panel and move it to the other monitor, but only to put quick launch applications in there.
[08:20] <scrappy_> mdious: i used to support a few they held up to insurance adjusters in the field throwing them around all day
[08:20] <mdious> lo>think I'll stick to normal laptops lol
[08:21] <dasos> i get an error when i run "wine /home/user/.wine/xxx/xxx/yyyy.exe", but if i cd into the directory and rund "wine yyyy.exe", it works fine
[08:21] <gdb> That means "connect" to irc.freenode.net and use the "nick" Shinzetsu.  That will give you text mode IRC for talking here.
[08:21] <lo> mdious: I just got a macbook myself :/
[08:21] <mdious> yeah I saw one and the guy sure gave it some punishment...but they were all new I'd like to know how they will work 3 years down the track
[08:21] <mdious> lo>excellent...I'm hoping to get an iBook...but looks like i'll end up going with a macbook by the time I finally make a purchase
[08:21] <lo> after returning about 6 different winXP notebooks
[08:21] <lo> mdi: macbooks ok... some people aare having problems tho
[08:21] <lo> so far, i'm loving it tho
[08:21] <Shinzetsu> gdb: cool, console IRC =D ill try that now, brb!
[08:22] <NickGarvey> dasos: yeah.. I find cding into the dir of the program works better than anything else
[08:22] <gdb> Does anyone "in the know" know if MOTU plans to support Universe and/or Multiverse for all of 6.06's support cycle?
[08:22] <mdious> lo>yeah I have heard a few stories...I just got a very lovely G3 iMac from my parents work so that has been nice to play with :)
[08:22] <gdb> mdious: sweet!
[08:22] <lo> mdi: hope it was free
[08:22] <lo> hehe
[08:22] <lo> ;)
[08:22] <mdious> it was
[08:22] <lo> =D
[08:23] <mdious> at the moment anyway, if they decide they want money for it i'll give it back
[08:23] <lo> hahaha 'F!#$^ YOU !!! I"M NOT PAYING FOR THAT!!!'
[08:23] <nimeni> Does anyone know what is the "Error dependency is not satisfiable: xchat" error about when I'm trying to install exchat ?
[08:23] <godtvisken> PORDO: I think so. If I edit this, how do I use it?
[08:24] <mdious> lo>I'd rather save and grab a macbook or even a mac mini...ahh I was hoping to get a mac mini before it went intel..now it's $100 more expensive lol
[08:24] <Shinzetsu> gdb: hey
[08:25] <DamianFinol> Good evening, I have a question, I'm running a dual head setup and Gnome as Desktop Environment. I would like for the application taskbar to extend the second monitor. Any ideas? I can create a new panel and move it to the other monitor, but only to put quick launch applications in there.
[08:25] <Shinzetsu> gdb: lol irssi is brilliant
[08:25] <lo> mdi: yeah, not many g4's left.. Bestbuy has some 12" iBooks on for $999 canadian.. they had 6 in stock at a store here in the toronto area...
[08:25] <Shinzetsu> DamianFinol: 1 pc 2 screens?
[08:25] <lo> mdi: I had to call all over town looking for my mac book...
[08:25] <masingerz> hello
[08:25] <lo> mdi: then again looking for ram
[08:26] <lo> 512meg that comes with them is too little these days
[08:26] <nilesh892003> hello any one tell me how to configure yahoo voice talk in ubuntu ?i have lots of problem with voice chat in ubuntu what about google talk voice chat plz help me
[08:26] <DamianFinol> Shinzetsu,  Indeed
[08:26] <cowmilk> Assume it's 11:30PM  now. I've been doing sleep 7h10m && xfmedia nicemusic.mp3 to act as an alarm clock for me. But is there a way, via terminal, to get the same result by inputting the time instead?
[08:26] <Shinzetsu> DamianFinal: what graphics card are you using?
[08:26] <DamianFinol> nvidia
[08:26] <nimeni> Does anyone know what is the "Error dependency is not satisfiable: xchat" error about when I'm trying to install exchat ?
[08:26] <DamianFinol> Everything is setup correctly, I just set a new desktop background and it stretched both monitors
[08:26] <Shinzetsu> DamianFinal: Hmm, there might be an option, try running nvidia-settings
[08:26] <mdious> cool, I'm in australia...if i get my act together I could grab a brand new 12" ibook (I want the 12") before they are all gone...and I'd like to buy it new...especially since it's a laptop.  I'm not super keen on second hand laptops...I'm pretty pedantic with taking care of my stuff :P
[08:26] <DamianFinol> I can move applications from one side to the other
[08:27] <mdious> 512 to much?  I'm currently running on 224meg lol...
[08:27] <Shinzetsu> gdb: you there?
[08:27] <mdious> *too
[08:27] <DamianFinol> I can move that taskbar to the other monitor if I want, but I cannot resize it
[08:27] <darth_gimp> noiesmo, its done.. can you help me finish it off?
[08:27] <lo> :)
[08:27] <lo> macbook pro is ok too.. but I like the black one I got better. the silver looks kind of gay if you ask me
[08:27] <mdious> not to mention my partition size:  /dev/hda5             4.8G  3.2G  1.6G  68% /
[08:27] <mdious>  lol
[08:27] <lo> of course, macbook pro has much better video/etc.
[08:28] <nilesh892003> hello any one tell me how to configure yahoo voice talk in ubuntu ?i have lots of problem with voice chat in ubuntu what about google talk voice chat plz help m
[08:28] <Shinzetsu> DamianFinol: Hmm, I think you cant actually, like, have 1 big taskbar, you can make it 'look' extended though but I dont think you can have 1 'big' taskbar
[08:28] <DamianFinol> How do I achieve that look?
[08:28] <Shinzetsu> DamianFinol: make 2 taskbars?
[08:28] <foo> Hm, I can't hit any server's port 25 and get a banner. I am doing this on my linux router. Could it be my linux router? Or my ISP? I know it could be my ISP. I am going to call... but first, can I do anything to see if it's the linux router? I don't think something like restarting the network will fix it.. hmm ... any ideas?
[08:29] <DamianFinol> Shinzetsu,  I can make a new panel, how do I tell that panel that it's also a taskbar?
[08:29] <Shinzetsu> DamianFinol: Actually I think you cant move from one taskbar to another
[08:29] <darth_gimp> noiesmo, still there?
[08:29] <DamianFinol> Back when I was in Debian I had one big taskbar
[08:29] <Shinzetsu> DamianFinol: youre talking about the top taskbar right?
[08:29] <DamianFinol> No, the bottom one
[08:29] <corevette> can someone help me with installation/sessions with kubuntu?
[08:29] <Shinzetsu> DamianFinol: ah
[08:29] <SurfnKid> how do i see the geometry of my hard drive?
[08:29] <Shinzetsu> DamianFinol: I have no idea :( Sorry
[08:29] <DamianFinol> The one that has the trash can and the show desktop and the workspaces
[08:29] <snoops> the window list object is what he wants
[08:30] <snoops> and I thought it was possible with twinview enabled
[08:30] <snoops> to stretch across the entire thing
[08:30] <Shinzetsu> DamianFinol: there might be software to do it though
[08:30] <snoops> but may not, if they're different resolutions
[08:30] <Shinzetsu> gdb: hey are you still here?
[08:30] <DamianFinol> snoops, Is that an option in the twinview?
[08:30] <DamianFinol> same resolutions
[08:30] <snoops> I've seen people with it stretched across
[08:31] <mdious> foo>it could be your ISP.....sorry if someone already said that I'm too lazy to go through all the comments
[08:31] <snoops> don't have multiple monitors here so can't really test
[08:31] <Shinzetsu> gdb: here I am...
[08:31] <evan_w00> hmm im a linux newb, what does the "-p" stand for in "mkdir -p $(PREFIX)/bin"
[08:31] <foo> mdious: I only go who highlights my nick. Ok, so odds are it is not my linux router, right?
[08:32] <Shinzetsu> gdb: ...
[08:32] <DamianFinol> =/
[08:32] <Jo-jo> even_w00: Type
[08:32] <_lemsx1_> !fglrx
[08:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:32] <Jo-jo> ""man mkdir"
[08:32] <Shinzetsu> anyone know how to check userlist in irssi?
[08:32] <snoops> okay well what you could do DamianFinol
[08:32] <snoops> create a new panel on the second screen
[08:32] <mdious> foo>I have no idea how you have set it up or any of the details so I can't say, also it's sunday and I don't do routing on sundays sorry
[08:32] <Shinzetsu> gdb:...are you afk?
[08:32] <snoops> right click it, add a window list
[08:32] <evan_w00> oh ok thanks jo jo
[08:32] <foo> mdious: haha. Thanks anyways.
[08:32] <Jo-jo> Ooooh... I'm too tired to type... that's a bad sign. :-S
[08:33] <mdious> foo>sure someone else will provide you with the answers though
[08:33] <evan_w00> sleep :)
[08:33] <Jo-jo> Thanks... I'll give that a try sometime/
[08:33] <snoops> now, I believe it's supposed to 'just work' as in, the windows on one screen will show up in that window list, while the other screen will have the window list for the other screen
[08:33] <evan_w00> lol
[08:33] <DamianFinol> snoops,  nah, just tried it, all the windows are in that one
[08:33] <Shinzetsu> gdb: anyone there?
[08:33] <SurfnKid> guys whats the command to see all devices mounted with their spaces
[08:33] <snoops> so two window lists?
[08:33] <_lemsx1_> ubuntu wiki HTTP 403 error?
[08:34] <SurfnKid> and capacities
[08:34] <DamianFinol> yes, the same window lists
[08:34] <DamianFinol> not monitor specific =/
[08:34] <DamianFinol> wait a second
[08:34] <Jo-jo> SurfnKid: You mean "mount"?
[08:34] <DamianFinol> It's working now
[08:34] <nimeni> come someone help me?
[08:34] <DamianFinol> I had to move it
[08:34] <snoops> ha!
[08:34] <DamianFinol> But it had the firefox and terminal (running in the left monitor) before I moved them
[08:34] <Shinzetsu> gdb: please?
[08:34] <darth_gimp> ok how do I open and set up this linux kernel source. noiesmo was helping but there is no response from them
[08:34] <snoops> move it to the othe rscreen?
[08:34] <snoops> ah well.. so all good now
[08:34] <DamianFinol> when I moved them then those windows left the bar and the ones in the right monitor stayed there
[08:35] <DamianFinol> Yes definately ;)
[08:35] <DamianFinol> Thank you :)
[08:35] <snoops> :)
[08:35] <Shinzetsu> ^_^
[08:35] <SurfnKid> Jo-jo, does it? i want to see whats on the hard drive, ntfs, ext2 etc.. geometric stuff
[08:35] <SurfnKid> Jo-jo, mount lets ya do taht
[08:35] <mdious> anyone else read BOFH...I use to read it all the time until I started this job 5 months ago and lost all spare time..just getting back into it now :)
[08:36] <Jo-jo> SurfnKid: Yep.
[08:36] <Shinzetsu> gdb: Wake Up
[08:36] <Space> Hello.
[08:36] <SurfnKid> ok
[08:36] <Shinzetsu> someone call gdb for me
[08:36] <Jo-jo> SurfnKid: You're talking about mounted filesystems... mount does that.
[08:36] <darth_gimp> needing help with this linux kernel source stuff
[08:37] <Jo-jo> SurfnKid: If you're trying to interrogate a device to establish it's contents, that's another story.
[08:37] <Shinzetsu> gdb: come on man
[08:37] <Shinzetsu> gdb: where are you
[08:37] <IRCMonkeyX> good morning, how to kill a process, what command ? kill amsn ?
[08:37] <cartufer> is it possible to resize a ntfs partition?
[08:37] <DamianFinol> yes
[08:38] <IRCMonkeyX> cartufer: yes it is
[08:38] <SurfnKid> Jo-jo, interrogate exactly
[08:38] <rast4> how can you take ownership of an ntfs partition so you can write to it from ubunti?
[08:38] <gdb> Shinzetsu: sorry, chatting with a buddy on google talk - are you in single user mode now?
[08:38] <rast4> ubuntu*
[08:38] <Shinzetsu> gdb: yes, for a long time
[08:38] <SurfnKid> Jo-jo, i know there's a command i just forget which it is
[08:38] <Shinzetsu> gdb: as root of course
[08:38] <jamie> hello people
[08:38] <Spaceomega> Don't mean to interrupt, but if anyone can help with a WUSB54GC detection problem, that'd be appreciated.
[08:38] <cartufer> kill is for process id i think
[08:39] <Flannel> rast4: no, NTFS writing isn't safe.
[08:39] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Did you do the dpkg-reconfigure gdm command?
[08:39] <Jo-jo> SurfnKid: You know, I'm not actually a Linux user... but I'd imagine that fdisk might be able to give you some hints.
[08:39] <Shinzetsu> gdb: not yet, should I do now?
[08:39] <IRCMonkeyX> good morning, how to kill a process, what command ? kill amsn ?
[08:39] <rast4> :(
[08:39] <Flannel> IRCMonkeyX: you'll need its PID, then kill [pid] 
[08:39] <Jo-jo> SurfnKid: Under BSD it's disklabel, but I don't know what Linux calls that.
[08:39] <NickGarvey> IRCMonkeyX: killall is the command
[08:40] <nimeni> no one wants to help me with some problem?
[08:40] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Yes, you want the system to stop using the apparently broken kdm and use the hopefully working gdm.
[08:40] <cartufer> i know gparted can set a disklabel
[08:40] <Coffeegrinds> I'm back and still have no sound w/ Firefox when watchin flash vids... anyone else have/fix this issue?
[08:40] <IRCMonkeyX> NickGarvey: killall amsn ?
[08:40] <Shinzetsu> gdb: okay, how do I leave irssi?
[08:40] <IRCMonkeyX> !pid
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <mdious> disklabel...*shudders* :)
[08:40] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Note that "dpkg-reconfigure gdm" is the command you'll use to switch between the two.
[08:40] <jamie> ive just installed ubuntu..a nd how do i loggin as root? i didnt get a password for it.. whats the default?
[08:40] <Jo-jo> SurfnKid: That looks like a match... see man parted.
[08:40] <DamianFinol> jamie,  You don't, you use sudo
[08:41] <Shinzetsu> gdb: yes
[08:41] <cartufer> i prefer sudo su
[08:41] <IRCMonkeyX> Flannel: how can i know its pid ?
[08:41] <SurfnKid> Jo-jo, fdisk -l
[08:41] <Flannel> cartufer: No.
[08:41] <NickGarvey> IRCMonkeyX: yup..
[08:41] <Shinzetsu> gdb: how do I leave Irssi?
[08:41] <DamianFinol> jamie, If you need to run something as root, you use sudo, then it asks you for your user password
[08:41] <Jo-jo> cartufer: Thanks :-)
[08:41] <Flannel> Shinzetsu: /quit
[08:41] <jamie> DamianFinol: and what is that? Im kinda new here.
[08:41] <gdb> Shinzetsu: you can hit CTRL-Z to suspend irssi and then when you want to come back, type "fg" and hit enter (for 'foregound')
[08:41] <NickGarvey> IRCMonkeyX: but.. "ps ax | grep amsn" would show you the pid
[08:41] <Jo-jo> SurfnKid: Groovy ;-)
[08:41] <SurfnKid> Jo-jo, got it hehe thx
[08:41] <Shinzetsu> gdb: cool, brb
[08:41] <gdb> Shinzetsu: You can do that at any time.
[08:41] <DamianFinol> jamie,  It's sort of a wrapper, it let's you use a root command as a regular user
[08:41] <gdb> Shinzetsu: :-)
[08:41] <nimeni> Does anyone know what is the "Error dependency is not satisfiable: xchat" error about when I'm trying to install exchat ?
[08:42] <Flannel> nimeni: you probably need to enable universe
[08:42] <Shinzetsu> gdm is broken or not fully installed
[08:42] <jamie> DamianFinol: and how do i use it?
[08:42] <DamianFinol> jamie Say you want to restart gdm, you would type 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[08:42] <jamie> aho.. ok..
[08:42] <jamie> DamianFinol: i need to be root to mount a new hd right?
[08:42] <DamianFinol> jamie,  It will ask you for a password, use the user password
[08:42] <asim> is there a way to install ubuntu without having to run the live cd (graphical)?
[08:42] <stopher> GIMP is a good proggie
[08:43] <asim> for some reason my cd drive is REALLY slow on my old computer, and it takes forever for the live cd to load..
[08:43] <DamianFinol> jamie,  Yes, although I believe a user specified in the fstab can mount that particular partition
[08:43] <Flannel> asim: Alternate ISO
[08:43] <NickGarvey> jamesrk: in general you do, but you can make it so you don't need to be root
[08:43] <gdb> nimeni: That means that exchat can't be installed unless xchat is installed and apt can't find xchat to install.  Do you have the Universe repository enabled?
[08:43] <NickGarvey> jamie:  in general you do, but you can make it so you don't need to be root
[08:43] <asim> Flannel: I can't do a text install with the ShipIt CD?
[08:43] <jamie> DamianFinol: and the command is mount hdb "a folder" right?
[08:43] <IRCMonkeyX> NickGarvey: thanx, it is done
[08:43] <Flannel> asim: nope
[08:43] <asim> awww
[08:43] <asim> ok, thanks.
[08:43] <DamianFinol> jamie, In a general way, yes
[08:44] <pacsguy> join #centos
[08:44] <jamie> DamianFinol: ok.. i will try it then.. tahnk you sir
[08:44] <DamianFinol> jamie, You might need to specify a type
[08:44] <DamianFinol> like ntfs, or fat, or ext3, etc
[08:44] <DamianFinol> Sure
[08:44] <nimeni> Flannel how can I enable universe?
[08:44] <Shinzetsu> gdb: gdm is broken or not fully installed
[08:44] <Flannel> !tell nimeni about repositories
[08:44] <stopher> lol
[08:45] <pacsguy> sorry, typo
[08:45] <DamianFinol> nimeni System, administration, software properties
[08:45] <nimeni> thx guys
[08:45] <Spaceomega> @Anyone:  Looking for hlep with Ubuntu's detection of a WUSB54GC wireless adapter.  Any help to get this working before I install ubuntu would be great.
[08:45] <DamianFinol> Spaceomega, Use the live version before installing, see if it's detected
[08:45] <evan_w00> what is the "$(PREFIX)" in the commandline "mkdir -p $(PREFIX)/bin" mean?
[08:46] <evan_w00> is it the file name?
[08:46] <Shinzetsu> gdb: hey you there
[08:46] <Jo-jo> evan_w00: It depends on the operating system... in most cases it's "/usr/local"
[08:46] <gdb> Shinzetsu: ok, what happens when you do "apt-get install -f"?
[08:46] <Jo-jo> evan_w00: And it'
[08:46] <Shinzetsu> gdb: lets try
[08:46] <NickGarvey> evan_w00: prefix is the variable, sounds like its a makefile you are looking at or somethintg?
[08:46] <Jo-jo> evan_w00: And it's probably ${PREFIX}
[08:46] <evan_w00> oh ok.
[08:46] <evan_w00> hmm
[08:47] <IRCMonkeyX> !PID > ircmonkeyx
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about PID - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <evan_w00> im trying to install winrar, im a total newb a linux :)
[08:47] <foo> Hm, I am having problems getting out on port 25 for some reason. I called my ISP and I should be able to, and a friend on the same network up the street is able to ... any ideas? I have a linux router I am trying from, no go. This has been working fine for quiet a while now ... any ideas?
[08:47] <NickGarvey> !rar > evan_w00
[08:47] <NickGarvey> evan_w00: should help
[08:47] <nilesh892003> coolmanvns2@yahoo.com
[08:47] <Shinzetsu> gdb: well it says scim-gtk2-immodule will be removed, when i press y, i get an error that it cannot be removed
[08:47] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Ok, can you try "apt-get remove -f" ? ;-)
[08:47] <Spaceomega> @Damnian:  I private messaged you.
[08:47] <Shinzetsu> gdb: same
[08:48] <jamie> DamianFinol: hum... it dosent wanna mount hdb to a folder.. it says i need to give it the "filesystem" or something
[08:48] <DJAdmiral> I am unable to write to CDRWs - does anybody know how can I format them in Nautilus so that I can?
[08:48] <Shinzetsu> gdb: :-\
[08:48] <NickGarvey> jamie: that usually means.. something isn't working.. because in general it auto detects
[08:49] <jamie> DamianFinol: ok.. hum.. what can be wrong?
[08:49] <Shinzetsu> jamie: check /etc/fstab
[08:49] <evan_w00> ahhhh i get this now, thanks NickGarvey
[08:49] <pcman> DJAdmiral: Maybe you'll want to try gnome baker or bonfire.
[08:49] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Ok, can you try "apt-get install --reinstall scim-gtk2-immodule" ?
[08:49] <jamie> DamianFinol: check with what? man /etc/fstab?
[08:49] <Shinzetsu> gdb: k hang on
[08:49] <jamie> DamianFinol: or just run it?
[08:49] <DamianFinol> jamie Ok, what kind of filesystem ?, is it a windows partition?
[08:50] <DJAdmiral> pcman: thanks, i decided on using a usb stick instead :-P
[08:50] <Spaceomega> DamianFinol: PvtMsg'd you.
[08:50] <DJAdmiral> thanks guys, cya
[08:50] <DamianFinol> Spaceomega,  You shouldn't
[08:50] <Shinzetsu> gdb: hey I think it worked
[08:50] <Spaceomega> oh there, you responded
[08:50] <Spaceomega> oh ok
[08:50] <Spaceomega> sorry
[08:50] <jamie> DamianFinol: yes it is..
[08:50] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Did that seem to repair the package?
[08:50] <Shinzetsu> gdb: it installed all stuff associated to that gtk2 stuff
[08:50] <PORDO> http://pinkrobotsushi.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/24497.jpg
[08:50] <Shinzetsu> gdb: yes it repaired alot
[08:50] <DamianFinol> jamie,  ntfs?
[08:50] <jamie> DamianFinol: hum.. /etc/fstab says im not allowed
[08:50] <jamie> DamianFinol: yes.
[08:51] <Talisker> Hi, I'm on Ubuntu server and I'm trying to change the root password
[08:51] <Talisker> I went to sudo -i
[08:51] <Talisker> and issued passwd
[08:51] <Shinzetsu> Tailsker: there is no root pass
[08:51] <DamianFinol> try sudo mount -f ntfs /dev/.... /folder
[08:51] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Ok, good.  Now you will probably want to ensure that ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop are installed(since you want both).  Do you want xfce removed completely?
[08:51] <NickGarvey> !root > Talisker
[08:51] <Talisker> but after relogin the password reset itself to the old one
[08:51] <stopher> you just have to unlock sudo
[08:51] <Shinzetsu> gdb: yes
[08:51] <NickGarvey> Talisker: that should tell you
[08:51] <jamie> DamianFinol: ok will try.. tahnk you sir
[08:51] <Shinzetsu> gdb: should I try installing kubuntu and ubuntu, then reconfiguring xserver to have gdm as default?
[08:51] <pcman> Hello everyone, I developed a new file manager for GNOME and need testers. Anyone can help?
[08:51] <Talisker> ok, so there's a different way to get a sudo password?
[08:51] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Ok, you've already run the commands to remove all of xubuntu-desktop from the Pure Gnome page, right?
[08:51] <Talisker> [I tried adding myself to the sudoers] 
[08:51] <NickGarvey> Shinzetsu: theres a file somewhere that says what the default login manager is
[08:52] <Shinzetsu> gdb: well it stopped halfway because it also deleted my kde
[08:52] <NickGarvey> Shinzetsu: the name is like "default-login-manager" (or something like that)
[08:52] <Shinzetsu> gdb: I was inside kde at the moment when it got blown
[08:52] <gdb> Shinzetsu: It's been recommended by others in here to continue using gdm over kdm due to some bugs in kdm that I've not seen anyone explain.
[08:52] <Talisker> NickGarvey, the server is unavailable
[08:52] <stopher> sorry i meant root not sudo
[08:52] <Talisker> I can't access the link you sent me
[08:52] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Ah...
[08:52] <Shinzetsu> gdb: yeah actualyl I want only gnome
[08:52] <NickGarvey> Talisker: oh.. the wiki is still down, very sorry
[08:52] <darth_gimp> how do I locate my kernel source directory?
[08:52] <gdb> Shinzetsu: So you were removing kubuntu-desktop from inside KDE?
[08:52] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: its /usr/src/linux
[08:52] <Talisker> NickGarvey, can you plz tell me how to change a sudo password?
[08:53] <Shinzetsu> gdb: i was removing xubuntu-desktop inside kde, and it somehow managed to delete both xfce and kde
[08:53] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: (thats actually a symlink to it)
[08:53] <Flannel> Talisker: your sudo password is your user password
[08:53] <Talisker> oh rly\?
[08:53] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, its not there...
[08:53] <Shinzetsu> Tailsker: ya rly
[08:53] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: then apt-get install linux-source
[08:53] <Talisker> Heh, I never noticed that since they are the same on my machine
[08:53] <scai> hi.. Im having a trouble with firefox.. ti crashes in some sites.. some one can help me?
[08:53] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Hrm, odd, I can only surmise that you cut and pasted, perhaps, both commands rather then one at a time.
[08:53] <Shinzetsu> gdb: try and apt-get install gdm ubuntu-desktop?
[08:53] <Talisker> You've been much help, thanks
[08:53] <Flannel> Talisker: why on earth do you have a root account then?
[08:54] <gdb> Shinzetsu: At anyrate, right now you want to "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[08:54] <Shinzetsu> gdb: okay hang on
[08:54] <gdb> Shinzetsu: kk
[08:54] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, ok I did that and got linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2
[08:54] <Talisker> Flannel, what do you mean, you can't not have a root account
[08:54] <jamie> DamianFinol: hum.. its says the folder im trying to mount to is occupied or that the disk is allraedy mounted
[08:54] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: it should.. extract and do all that stuff for you..
[08:54] <Talisker> Anyway, you've been much help, thanks
[08:54] <DamianFinol> did you check the folder?
[08:54] <Flannel> Talisker: yes you can.  Ubuntu doesn't have a root account.  Or, it's disabled, and designed to stay that way.
[08:54] <Talisker> Flannel, the latter is acceptable
[08:54] <stopher> Ubuntu protects itself that way
[08:55] <Talisker> But sometimes I need root access
[08:55] <NickGarvey> Talisker: sudo -i
[08:55] <stopher> use the sudo command
[08:55] <gdb> Talisker: You can get a root shell with "sudo -i" for an "su -" login and "sudo -s" for an "su" style login.
[08:55] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, one sec
[08:55] <Talisker> I know that, thanks
[08:55] <stiv2k> does anyone know what happened to the easyubuntu site?
[08:55] <Flannel> Talisker: so, what do you need a root account for?
[08:55] <Talisker> I don't need an active root account, I don't have an active root account, I use the sudo shell for access
[08:56] <Talisker> I just thought that the sudo password is the root password
[08:56] <Talisker> so I tried to tinker with that
[08:56] <gdb> Talisker: Ah, no, it's your personal password.
[08:56] <Double_D> anyone: i'm trying to get apache2 to parse php scripts after being processed, but it only allows them to be saved.  if the code is embedded in an html file, it works.  any ideas?
[08:56] <DamianFinol> Talisker, use 'sudo passwd root' and set a root password
[08:56] <Flannel> Talisker: You set a root password, that means you have a root account ;)  unless you've since disabled it
[08:56] <Talisker> I never realised it was because they are the same on my machine
[08:56] <DamianFinol> Talisker,  There, you got a root accoun tnow
[08:56] <Talisker> Well, g2g, thanks
[08:56] <gdb> It's sudo asking if you're really Talisker before letting you run things as root.
[08:56] <NickGarvey> Talisker: but its not a good idea to do sudo passwd root
[08:56] <gdb> :-)
[08:56] <stopher> can you add files to apache without being at the server? do it thru a network?
[08:56] <NickGarvey> stopher: yeah.. ftp it up then use ssh to move it..
[08:57] <DamianFinol> stopher, ftp or ssh?
[08:57] <gdb> stopher: scp / ftp / etc them to /var/www or $HOME/public_html, yes.
[08:57] <jamie> DamianFinol: I made the foledr in my hoem dir.
[08:57] <NickGarvey> stopher: or you could set up nfs to mount your apache dir (is what I do)
[08:57] <gdb> stopher: You can also use an SMB mount and use the Windows file manager to access your pages without logging into the server itself.
[08:57] <DamianFinol> jamie did you see the contents of the folder?
[08:57] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, this is rather frustrating...
[08:57] <_lemsx1_> !fglrx
[08:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:57] <stopher> i have SMB on.. but don't know how to map the drive correctly
[08:57] <stiv2k> does anyone know what happened to the easyubuntu site?
[08:57] <stopher> just \\ubuntu\var\www?
[08:57] <gdb> stopher: Are you on your windows now?
[08:58] <stopher> yes gdb
[08:58] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, I used: bzip2 -dc linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2 | tar xvf -   to open the tar
[08:58] <jamie> DamianFinol: my folder? its empty.
[08:58] <jamie> DamianFinol: I wrote: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb /home/jamie/Arkivet
[08:58] <DamianFinol> jamie, well, ntfs needs a userid to be read
[08:58] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, then I did what you said... I have no clue what I am doing...
[08:58] <jamie> DamianFinol: -f wasent a command.. only help came up.. so i read it..a nd it said to use -t
[08:59] <stopher> what is FTP passwd?
[08:59] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: eek
[08:59] <gdb> stopher: Ah, well, doing that is going to be problematic.  You may want to make those files owned by your normal user account.  Then you'll want to use System -> Administration -> Shared Folders to share /var/www.  Then you will need to run "smbpasswd -a username" to add yourself to the smbpasswd file.  After you're done, you can mount the folder as a disk with Windows using \\server\name_used_in_the_control_panel
[08:59] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: 2 things
[08:59] <DamianFinol> jamesrk, Edit your fstab like this:  /dev/sda1       /windows/       ntfs umask=1000 0       0
[08:59] <jamie> DamianFinol: ok..a nd how do i do/get/see that? :P sorry for all my stupid question..^
[08:59] <DamianFinol> err jamie
[08:59] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: 1. If you did what I said, it should be in /usr/src/linux now
[08:59] <gdb> stopher: Like "net use w: \\my.server.com\web"
[08:59] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, its not
[08:59] <stopher> its text-only server gdb
[08:59] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: 2. you can just do "tar xfvj file.tar.bz2" instead of all that mumbo jumbo ;)
[08:59] <DamianFinol> replace /dev/xxx and /windows/ with your information, now you need to setup the umask correctly too
[08:59] <jamie> fstab is what?
[08:59] <stopher> i don't have GUI yet
[09:00] <DamianFinol> jamie,  /etc/fstab
[09:00] <Shinzetsu> gdb: it worked!
[09:00] <DamianFinol> try , sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[09:00] <gdb> stopher: then you'll need to manually edit your /etc/samba/smb.conf file.  There are a number of examples in there to use.
[09:00] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Great!  Now before you reboot, make sure you're using gdm with "dpkg-reconfigure gdm" and selecting gdm over kdm.
[09:00] <stopher> says windows can't access the folder may not have permissions
[09:00] <Shinzetsu> gdb: it installed it flawlessly, and I chose gdm as default display manager when the xserver-xorg came up
[09:00] <stopher> i did edit that gdb
[09:00] <Shinzetsu> gdb: yep
[09:00] <corevette> how do you uninstall ubuntu from a windows/linux dualboot?
[09:01] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, how can I clear these out and start the thing over? When I first went to /usr/src it was empty
[09:01] <stopher> i can't access 192.168.1.100\web
[09:01] <Shinzetsu> gdb: ill do it again, just to make sure, ill brb on gnome ;) cheers!!
[09:01] <_lemsx1_> corevette: ouch
[09:01] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: "apt-get remove linux-source"
[09:01] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Ah, great!  Now you can boot into the desktop but /quit in irssi to exit it, and "exit" at the root prompt.  Once you're bck in here, we can work on making sure that KDE and XFCE are completely gone.
[09:01] <corevette> _lemsx1_ what?
[09:01] <gdb> Shinzetsu: sure thing!
[09:01] <DamianFinol> corevette, Easily? boot windows recovery, and type: fixmbr then resize or delete the linux partitions
[09:01] <_lemsx1_> corevette: uninstalling ubuntu? instead of windows?
[09:02] <corevette> _lemsx1_ no.....i'm putting it on a different computer...no dual boot.... i like linux better
[09:02] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, the directory is still there...
[09:02] <corevette> DamianFinol last time i did that, grub didn't uninstall
[09:02] <_lemsx1_> corevette: perhaps you can delete the ubuntu parition using the live CD and then tell NTFS to grow to take over the space
[09:02] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: is there anything in the directory?
[09:02] <corevette> damianfinol and it messed up my whole computer
[09:02] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, all the stuff that was in the tar
[09:03] <stopher> okay so i can't ftp to the server
[09:03] <jamie> DamianFinol: do i need to reboot after ive edited fstab?
[09:03] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, I just want to get my tablet working.. and this is getting out of hand...
[09:03] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: what directory are we talking about?
[09:03] <DamianFinol> jamie no
[09:03] <mdious> I might head off and have a shower, cya later everyone
[09:03] <stopher> gdb: is there a apache2 conf file i need to edit?
[09:03] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: oh I'm not sure how ubuntu handles kernel sources
[09:03] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, linux-source-2.6.15
[09:03] <DamianFinol> corevette,  Then I wouldn't know, ask Microsoft.
[09:03] <gdb> stopher: Not with regards to this samba share, no.
[09:03] <_lemsx1_> corevette: you will need to do fixmbr again to remove grub
[09:03] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: ok, thats your kernel source then
[09:03] <stopher> gdb: I mean to ftp into the server and add web files
[09:03] <corevette> _lemsx1_ okay
[09:04] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, ok but then I do what http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/config says
[09:04] <Shinzetsu> gdb: you there?
[09:04] <Shinzetsu> gdb: failed to start X server
[09:04] <gdb> stopher: Ah, the default apache2 install uses /var/www so if you're using the default installation, then there is no further apache configuration to do.
[09:04] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: eek, are you compiling a kernel?
[09:04] <_lemsx1_> anybody using fglrx on Edgy?
[09:04] <scai> hi.. Im having a trouble with firefox.. ti crashes in some sites.. some one can help me?
[09:04] <jamie> DamianFinol: ok i succseded to mount it.. but nwo i cant acess it anyway.. it says i dont have the proper rights
[09:04] <gdb> Shinzetsu: So the X server itself failed to start?
[09:04] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, and I get "version.h is not in /include/linux"
[09:04] <Shinzetsu> gdb: I was thinking of trying to see if kubuntu-desktop is still installed and doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:04] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: cd into the directory, and type "make menuconfig"
[09:04] <stopher> gdb: yeah i did the default UBUNTU LAMP
[09:05] <Shinzetsu> gdb: yeah. i do get the kubuntu loading screen
[09:05] <_lemsx1_> scai: what sites?
[09:05] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: I'm not really sure whats going on heh
[09:05] <Shinzetsu> gdb: I think its the half corrupt KDM
[09:05] <jamie> DamianFinol: do i need to chmod it.. its only root ahve acess now i guess?
[09:05] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, what directory the linux-source one?
[09:05] <gdb> stopher: Then you should be good as far as apache is concerned.
[09:05] <DamianFinol> jamie,  You need to set the proper umask
[09:05] <_lemsx1_> scai: disable all the extensions you might have installed
[09:05] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: yeah.. but I'm not sure what you are trying to do
[09:05] <stiv2k> does anyone know what happened to the easyubuntu site?
[09:05] <_lemsx1_> scai: and some plugins are just evil...
[09:05] <stopher> why doesn't it allow the ftp:\\192.168.1.100\web?
[09:05] <gdb> Shinzetsu: You ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org?
[09:05] <jamie> DamianFinol: ok.. and ehm.. what is taht? sorry again, im a noob. ^
[09:05] <scai> _lexmxl_ w3schools for example.. random sites
[09:05] <Shinzetsu> gdb: nope
[09:05] <DamianFinol> jamie: 'sudo gedit /etc/passwd'
[09:05] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, trying to set up my WACOM to use in Gimp or Inkscape
[09:05] <Shinzetsu> gdb: lemme do it
[09:05] <Double_D> okay, i'm out.
[09:05] <_lemsx1_> stopher: do not use back-slashes \ <----
[09:06] <scai> _lemsx1_, ok.. I will try
[09:06] <DamianFinol> Find your user, see what's the first number, in my case, it's 1000
[09:06] <scai> _lemsx1_, ty
[09:06] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, just trying to follow this website..
[09:06] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: oh, you don't need to do any of that, if you have extracted your linux source, then you are good
[09:06] <DamianFinol> Go to fstab again, and replace umask=1000 with your user #
[09:06] <stopher> okay / doesn't work either
[09:06] <DamianFinol> If your usermask is 500 then it should read umask=500
[09:06] <jamie> DamianFinol: ok.. i see.. and what shoudl i add? any tips?
[09:06] <gdb> stopher: ftp?  how are you trying to mount this on your windows machine?
[09:06] <Bonez56_> yeah that's what I thought
[09:07] <BeepAU> hey everyone, i'm trying to install easyh10, which is for my iriver, but when i go to install the package, it tells me 'Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6'. what do i have to do to fix it?
[09:07] <Shinzetsu> gdb: okay did it, someone recommended me the vesa driver
[09:07] <jamie> DamianFinol: oh ok..
[09:07] <stopher> i am trying to use an ftp like you said gdb
[09:07] <stopher> im not mounting yet gdb
[09:07] <Bonez56_> BeepAU: try sudo apt-cache search libc6
[09:07] <NickGarvey> jamie: sudo grep `whoami` /etc/passwd
[09:07] <DamianFinol> then the ntfs partition is sort of assigned to that user so he/she can read
[09:07] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, I am so close to giving up on linux its not funny
[09:07] <Shinzetsu> gdb: ill try and reboot now
[09:07] <Bonez56_> BeepAU: and see if there are any packages, then install the one you think looks most obvious
[09:07] <gdb> stopher: that has nothing to do with samba.  So you're trying to access ftp://servername/web from WIndows?
[09:07] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Good luck!
[09:07] <Shinzetsu> gdb: cheers
[09:07] <gdb> Shinzetsu: You know how to single user and come back!
[09:07] <Shinzetsu> gdb: yep =D
[09:07] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: eek, it seems you are tackling some hard stuff pretty quickly
[09:07] <Shinzetsu> gdb: and if it fails to start, it goes to single user so yeah
[09:07] <Shinzetsu> gdb: brb
[09:07] <stopher> yes gdb
[09:08] <foo> How can I delete everything in mailq?
[09:08] <stopher> if I type http://192.168.1.101 i can see the files, but not edit them i want to add files
[09:08] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, I just want my pressure sensitivity in GiMP like I did in Photoshop... I am losing clients like crazy
[09:08] <gdb> stopher: in that case samba is not the answer and you'll need to install an ftp server.  I don't know what the default one is in Ubuntu.  Let me see if I can find out.
[09:08] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: pressure sensitivity.. from what input device?
[09:08] <Bonez56_> gdb: proftpd
[09:08] <Flannel> stopher: you need... ftp or ssh, or any of the numerous means of file transfer
[09:08] <gdb> Ah, there you go
[09:09] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, that would be the tablet I am trying to set up... my WACOM
[09:09] <stopher> ftp not working Flannel
[09:09] <gdb> apt-get install proftpd - I've never used it, but perhaps another can give instructions on how to give ftp access to /var/www using it.
[09:09] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: I think.. #ubuntu is not the best place to get help, because that is above the general type of questions in this channel (this is mainly a newbie channel.. that is very advanced stuff)
[09:09] <stopher> ftp://192.168.1.101\web  NO PERMISSION/NOT FOUND/ ETC
[09:09] <Flannel> stopher: then you have it setup wrong.  as, FTP does work.  Millions of people have used it for dozens of years
[09:09] <DarkElf109> Has anyone here ever had a problem where, after deleting a mailbox directory from a Courier server using a client, the folder can't be removed from the Trash?
[09:09] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, how do I get rid of this directory then?
[09:09] <gdb> stopher: It would be ftp://192.168.1.101/var/www
[09:09] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: perhaps a forum would help, but I doubt anyone in here right now will be able to help you out
[09:09] <stopher> then i must not have it enabled somewhere
[09:09] <Bonez56_> stopher: you have to set up anonymous access if that's what you need, edit /etc/proftpd.conf
[09:10] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: you want to get rid of /usr/src/linux?
[09:10] <jamie> DamianFinol: ok in fstab its correct i guess.. my umask is correct
[09:10] <Flannel> stopher: you need to log in via ftp, it'll log you in to your home directory, for that user.
[09:10] <Shinzetsu> gdb: it works!!!!
[09:10] <gdb> Shinzetsu: WOOT! :-D  That's great!
[09:10] <Shinzetsu> gdm: Thanks sooo much
[09:10] <pacsguy> a wacom drawing pad ?
[09:10] <Shinzetsu> gdb*
[09:10] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, yes... before I started this mess the /usr/src was empty
[09:10] <jamie> dosent i need to reboot for the fstab to be loaded?
[09:10] <gdb> Shinzetsu: So you're on now using the GNOME desktop? :-)
[09:10] <stopher> that doesn't work either gdb
[09:10] <DamianFinol> jamie,  No, umount the partition and mount it again
[09:10] <Shinzetsu> gdb: now I need to remove kubuntu-desktop?
[09:10] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: rm -r /usr/src/*
[09:10] <Shinzetsu> gdb: yep
[09:10] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: that will clean it out
[09:10] <DamianFinol> jamie Generally, the only thing that needs a reboot in linux, is installing a new kernel
[09:11] <Flannel> DarkElf109: you might have to be someone else to move it from the trash.  Check the owner of that file, etc
[09:11] <stopher> so do I need to assign that DIR to a user first
[09:11] <gdb> stopher: well, an ftp server needs to be installed first, that would be proftpd -- as for configuring it to allow access to /var/www, I don't know how to do that.
[09:11] <Bonez56_> Shinzetsu: there is no easy way to remove kubuntu-desktop as it's a virtual package. you need to open synaptic and search for "kde" and remove everything except the kde libs
[09:11] <DarkElf109> Flannel: That's the crazy thing: There is no file, and there's no mention of it anywhere in my Maildir. It's a phantom folder!
[09:11] <gdb> Shinzetsu: sweet!  Now, do you want to make sure all of KDE and XFCE are removed or are you good to go for now?
[09:11] <NickGarvey> stopher: I would just use nfs and mount it on your local system
[09:11] <DarkElf109> DamianFinol: Well, because we're still using a monolithic kernel, if a device driver goes crazy, it could require a reboot
[09:11] <Flannel> DarkElf109: wouldn't it be in .trash? sorry, Im not familiar with Courier, or, is it hidden? ls -a?
[09:12] <Bonez56_> BeepAU: how did you go?
[09:12] <Shinzetsu> gdb: I did get the xubuntu login screen :P but XFCE is gone, I can still choose KDE but its gone aswell o_O
[09:12] <stopher> NickGarvey: \\ubuntu\var\www ?
[09:12] <Shinzetsu> gdb: im good to go though
[09:12] <DamianFinol> DarkElf109, Well, yea :P
[09:12] <jamie> DamianFinol: only write: sudo umount /dev/hdb1 /home/Jamie/Arkivet   ?
[09:12] <NickGarvey> stopher: I had it as /webdir
[09:12] <gdb> Bonez56_: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php has a list of packages to remove.
[09:12] <DarkElf109> Flannel: It's gone, totally, and completely...but it shows up in every client
[09:12] <BeepAU> Bonez56_ -- it tell's me i already have it, and it's the newest version etc.
[09:12] <DamianFinol> DarkElf109,  Then again, that's also a kernel thing :P
[09:12] <gdb> Shinzetsu: heh ok, well, that's an issue to tackle another day then :-)
[09:12] <DarkElf109> DamianFinol: This is true =)
[09:12] <Bonez56_> Shinzetsu: I had that problem, 2 secs and i'll find you a thread on ubuntuforums, it's quite simple to fix
[09:12] <DamianFinol> jamie You can 'sudo umount /dev/hdb1'
[09:12] <Bonez56_> gdb: great, didn't know about that. taa
[09:12] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, I just did that and then re-did the "apt-get install linux-source"
[09:12] <Shinzetsu> hey thanks mate
[09:12] <gdb> Shinzetsu: And remember, if you feel like it, Ubuntu can go from boot to installed in about 30 minutes. ;-)
[09:13] <gdb> Shinzetsu: If you choose to reinstall  your machine
[09:13] <gdb> Bonez56_: :-D
[09:13] <evan_w00> how do you get rid of the "beeps" when you type?
[09:13] <NickGarvey> evan_w00: you mean when you hit tab?
[09:13] <evan_w00> kinda annoying
[09:13] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, and still /usr/src/ is empty any idea why?
[09:13] <Shinzetsu> gdb: yep, i know it =p, i screwed up once
[09:13] <gdb> hehe
[09:13] <NickGarvey> evan_w00: xset -b off
[09:13] <evan_w00> NickGarvey what i hit dead ends
[09:13] <evan_w00> oh ok
[09:13] <Bonez56_> Shinzetsu: run this command; sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[09:13] <evan_w00> thanks :)
[09:13] <Bonez56_> Shinzetsu: then choose which artwork you want, just the main ubuntu one
[09:13] <gdb> ah, cool, the last part of the puzzle that I didn't know
[09:13] <Shinzetsu> thanks!!
[09:13] <gdb> thanks, Bonez56_ :-)
[09:14] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: did it install without error?
[09:14] <BeepAU> Bonez56_ -- however, i still get the same error message. how can i fix it?
[09:14] <Bonez56_> no probs, i searched for ages to find out how to fix that!
[09:14] <gdb> lol
[09:14] <NickGarvey> evan_w00: yeah that bothers me too (and wakes people up) ;)
[09:14] <Bonez56_> BeepAU: not too sure then sorry :(
[09:14] <gdb> hehe you know what's funny
[09:14] <Shinzetsu> wee
[09:14] <Shinzetsu> man im gonna get myself a beer now phew
[09:14] <Bonez56_> Shinzetsu: beer + ubuntu = win
[09:14] <gdb> I've been using Ubuntu (and thus a debian system) only since 2 weeks previous to Dapper release.
[09:14] <evan_w00> NickGarvey same situation here :P
[09:14] <DarkElf109> Flannel: Ack! Just found it: It was hiding in my courierimapsubscribed file -_-
[09:14] <Shinzetsu> yes
[09:15] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, it said "Setting up linux-source (2.6.15.24) ..." and then came back to the prompt
[09:15] <gdb> I was pretty much flying by the seat of my pants helping Shinzetsu. ;-)
[09:15] <BeepAU> Bonez56_ -- can i give you the list of files in pastebin, and you confirm which one i should download?
[09:15] <Bonez56_> gdb: what distro are you familiar with?
[09:15] <stopher> im not sure
[09:15] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: and theres nothing in /usr/src?
[09:15] <Bonez56_> BeepAU: yep go for it
[09:15] <BeepAU> Bonez56_ -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20435
[09:15] <Shinzetsu> gdb: I did lose half of my KDE apps tho
[09:15] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, empty
[09:15] <gdb> Bonez56_: Red Hat and Fedora.  I started with Slackware in 1994, then Red Hat in '96, had a 2 year stint of NetBSD and then back to Red Hat and continuing on to Fedora.
[09:15] <Shinzetsu> gdb: doesnt matter, all I need is amaroK :-)
[09:15] <DarkElf109> So...now that that's all cleared up (been bugging me for a week -_-), anybody need help?
[09:15] <gdb> Shinzetsu: they would be included with kubuntu-desktop
[09:16] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: not sure, and its like 3:15 here so I need to finish my work and go to sleep, good luck
[09:16] <gdb> Shinzetsu: If you want them back, then you can apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ;-)
[09:16] <stopher> It's just not working for me
[09:16] <Bonez56_> gdb: sounds very similar to be, except instead of the netbsd I went to debian... stayed there since, but now i'm learning RHCE, it's a bit of a nightmare after doing debian for so long :)
[09:16] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, yep thanks
[09:16] <DarkElf109> Shinzetsu: Or just apt-get install amark, and then you don't grab EVERYTHING
[09:16] <Shinzetsu> ok heh im going out of irssi and install xchat brb
[09:16] <gdb> hehe
[09:16] <stopher> i see the default ubuntu page that says the webmaster hasn't loaded any files
[09:16] <Bonez56_> BeepAU: type uname -a and paste the output here
[09:16] <DarkElf109> Pfft. BitchX ftw!
[09:16] <gdb> Bonez56_: I'm really looking forward to Debian 4.0 in December.
[09:16] <Raproid> Hello.
[09:16] <Bonez56_> gdb: the long awaited debian 4 ;)
[09:17] <gdb> :-D
[09:17] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, is there no command I can type to locate my kernel source?
[09:17] <master5o1> Hi
[09:17] <Raproid>  Is here anybody, who know russian language?
[09:17] <Bonez56_> i'm doing all self study for RHCE reading from books... fun fun
[09:17] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: cd /; find -name linux-source*
[09:17] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: might take a bit
[09:17] <Bonez56_> Raproid: /j #ubuntu-ru
[09:17] <Raproid> thanks
[09:17] <master5o1> I love Nintendo!!
[09:17] <doll2> bye
[09:18] <Shinzetsu> gdb: wewt
[09:18] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, thanks!
[09:18] <gdb> Bonez56_: I think RHEL is a pretty slick system (by virtue of being Red Hat) but I have to say that I'm born again when it comes to Debian style package management now. I do miss rpm -V.  Is there a dpkg equivalent? I'm not sure that the relavent checksum information is stored anywhere.
[09:18] <gdb> Shinzetsu: ;-)
[09:18] <BeepAU> Bonez56_ -- did you get my pm?
[09:18] <Shinzetsu> gdb: #ubuntu > Microsoft support telephone
[09:19] <DamianFinol> gdb mhmh apt-cache show xxx should give you the package info
[09:19] <Bonez56_> gdb: i'm not sure to be honest, don't even know what rpm -V does lol
[09:19] <gdb> I see it in package-name-verison/debian/files in a source package, but I'm not sure how to use that to check installed packages.
[09:19] <odat> hi everyone
[09:19] <Bonez56_> BeepAU: yes but you have to have your nick registered for me to reply. try this: sudo apt-get install libc6-i686
[09:19] <DamianFinol> gdb,  Checksum, version, dependencies, comments, description, etc
[09:19] <bruenig> does anyone have a fix that allows you to have a sound occupying app, rhythmbox or another running, and hear flash in firefox?
[09:19] <DarkElf109> gdb: http://distrocenter.linux.com/distrocenter/06/07/19/1510245.shtml?tid=106&tid=13&tid=96
[09:19] <gdb> DamianFinol: That's not the information I'm looking for, though.  It's the rpm -V information. It indicates which files have been modified, which files have a different checksum, newer modification time, etc, than when installed.
[09:19] <Bonez56_> gdb: i purchased RHEL4 AS from redhat (academic edition) for $60 USD, and loving it. no support but full updates for a year, purely for self-learning
[09:19] <brlancer> what does update-manager download that dist-upgrade wouldn't? dist-upgrade had completed downloads but update-manager wanted another dozen packages
[09:20] <DarkElf109> gdb: Neat article on all sorts of nifty apt utilities
[09:20] <DamianFinol> Ah
[09:20] <BeepAU> Bonez56_ -- it gave me the same message that it did the first time i tried.
[09:20] <gdb> DamianFinol: ah, thanks!
[09:20] <gdb> bookmarking it now
[09:20] <Bonez56_> BeepAU: paste me the msg in a pm
[09:20] <BeepAU> Bonez56_ -- ... and my nick is registered.
[09:20] <Bonez56_> BeepAU: great talk to you in pm
[09:20] <Shinzetsu> gdb: where can i see my current display driver?
[09:20] <Shinzetsu> gdb: xorg.conf?
[09:20] <DarkElf109> brlancer: dist-upgrade should cover everything
[09:20] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Ah, I think that would be the place to look, yes.
[09:20] <DarkElf109> brlancer: Did you try refreshing after finishing the dist-upgrade
[09:20] <DarkElf109> ?
[09:20] <Shinzetsu> gdb: :D
[09:21] <brlancer> DarkElf109: refreshing?
[09:21] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Or in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:21] <DarkElf109> brlancer: One of the buttons on the bottom...lemme check
[09:21] <Flannel> brlancer: make sure you reinstall the meta packages!
[09:21] <brlancer> DarkElf109: I restarted update-manager
[09:21] <Bonez56_> BeepAU: your nick is still unregged apparently
[09:21] <Shinzetsu> gdb: its nv
[09:21] <NickGarvey> * [BeepAU]  is identified to services
[09:21] <Shinzetsu> gdb: on the nvidia site they tell you to change nv to nvidia
[09:22] <gdb> Shinzetsu: So you're using the free nVidia 2d driver.
[09:22] <brlancer> DarkElf109: I stopped update-manager to futz with mirrors using dist-upgrade; once the downloads were done, I started update-manager again
[09:22] <Shinzetsu> gdb: im using nvidia-glx
[09:22] <DarkElf109> brlancer: Hrm...Probably what Flannel said ;)
[09:22] <darth_gimp> I officially give up...
[09:22] <BeepAU> Bonez56_ -- hmm, well i registered it and identified myself with a password. anyway, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20436
[09:22] <Shinzetsu> gdb: but I think I have to reconfigure xorg to use nvidia instead of nv
[09:22] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: in situations such as yours, where finding the right driver is very unlikely, I suggest you stick to windows for what you need
[09:22] <gdb> Shinzetsu: I have to admit that you're getting beyond me.  My Ubuntu system doesn't have video hardware for which there is a 3D driver.
[09:22] <DarkElf109> brlancer: Ah. That's probably why. update-manager was probably yusing old package lists. It's the "Check" button =)
[09:22] <darth_gimp> I've tried for months now to figure out how to get my tablet working in Linux with pressure sensitivity and nothing works
[09:22] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: I VERY really suggest that
[09:23] <Shinzetsu> gdb: hehe ok np, well it works now anyway so who cares
[09:23] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: but this seems to be one of those situations where its not worth the hassle to try and get something to work, when its just not going to happen
[09:23] <gdb> Shinzetsu: i don't think that's what you need to do.  I believe you can edit the xorg.conf file directly and restart X
[09:23] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, I was following the website set for the driver by WACOM themselves
[09:23] <Shinzetsu> yep, and gedit works from recovery mode :)
[09:23] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: oh?  hmm.. not sure then
[09:23] <brlancer> DarkElf109: what old package list?
[09:23] <Shinzetsu> hehe
[09:23] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: but.. if you are new to linux.. thats probably quite a project to try and take on
[09:23] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, I agree and if I could afford to buy windows I would...
[09:23] <gdb> Shinzetsu: I'm using the onboard Intel 945G video that came with my Optiplex GX640
[09:24] <Shinzetsu> gdb :D I had one of those, I have a GeFroce 6200SE now
[09:24] <Shinzetsu> gdb: brb
[09:24] <DarkElf109> brlancer: The things that are downloaded when you do apt-get update. I'm not certain, but I think update-manager uses a different set than apt-get
[09:24] <darth_gimp> I have an ubuntu full install.. how would I now setup a dual boot with windoze?
[09:24] <ripper> i keep getting an error with azureus when i try to open a torrent via firefox, it says its not a file
[09:24] <brlancer> DarkElf109: really? that's wonked :)
[09:24] <gdb> darth_gimp: I've not been following the discussion but I see these 2 packages in the Main repository that are WACOM related.  Are they unhelpful?
[09:24] <gdb> wacom-tools - utilities for wacom tablets and other hid devices
[09:24] <gdb> xserver-xorg-input-wacom - X.Org X server -- Wacom input driver
[09:25] <DarkElf109> brlancer: Not sure, but yeah...just hit the check button in update-anager, and it should update the lists
[09:25] <snoops> tyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[09:25] <gdb> ...
[09:25] <Shinzetsu> o_O
[09:25] <stopher> Does anyone here know if GeoVision Survaillance is compatible with Linux?
[09:25] <DarkElf109> gdb: I tried those out, along with the guide on the wiki...It worked, sort of...I got mouse control with the tablet, but at about once-per-second refresh =/
[09:25] <snoops> yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[09:25] <NickGarvey> !ops
[09:25] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[09:26] <NickGarvey> thanks :
[09:26] <gdb> Thank you!
[09:26] <NickGarvey> thanks :)
[09:26] <DarkElf109> Thanks!
[09:26] <Bonez56> smokes
[09:26] <ripper> anyone know why azures would be telling me to clear my browswer cache, and that i dont have enough space in /tmp, also that a .torrent isnt a file
[09:26] <darth_gimp> gdb, yep I have both of those packages installed
[09:26] <gdb> I have to say that my *verbal* reaction, had I typed it in here, would have gotten me the boot, too. ;-)
[09:27] <DarkElf109> ripper: "Isn't a file"? What's the exact error message?
[09:27] <ripper> i wish it would stay up long enough to type it out :P
[09:27] <gdb> darth_gimp: Ah, ok.  Well, I apologize for not being much help.  I saw you talking about WACOM and figured I'd chip that in there in case it'd be helpful. :-)
[09:27] <DarkElf109> ripper: Well, for the /tmp thing, check your available disk space, and make sure that /tmp exists and has permissions that allow you to access it
[09:28] <ripper> yes they do
[09:28] <gdb> The permissions on /tmp should always be 1777.
[09:28] <darth_gimp> gdb, no worries
[09:28] <DarkElf109> gdb: Operative word: should =)
[09:28] <gdb> (rwxrwxrwt)
[09:28] <ripper> heh i can open them from azures , just not firefox
[09:28] <gdb> indeed!
[09:28] <ripper> thats not right....
[09:28] <ripper> gdb perms on /tmp are correct
[09:29] <DarkElf109> ripper: What happens when you click on a link to a .torrent?
[09:29] <Talisker[w] > Hi again
[09:29] <Talisker[w] > Where are my samba folders [from other computers]  located on my system?
[09:30] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Are you in GNOME?
[09:30] <Talisker[w] > [I have to learn how to deal with so many tools I'm not used to] 
[09:30] <Talisker[w] > Nope
[09:30] <DarkElf109> KDE?
[09:30] <Talisker[w] > ion3
[09:30] <DarkElf109> ...I've never heard of that =)
[09:30] <stopher> Talisker[w] : in network neighborhood
[09:30] <Talisker[w] > stopher, is there an absolute path?
[09:30] <Shinzetsu> gdb: okay this is funny
[09:30] <stopher> ummm
[09:30] <stopher> go to it and just save it
[09:30] <Shinzetsu> gdb: i have the Kubuntu loading screen, the Xubuntu login screen and the Ubuntu shutdown screen
[09:31] <gdb> Shinzetsu: wow
[09:31] <gdb> Shinzetsu: lol
[09:31] <Talisker[w] > I'm not using any file browser other then my terminal at the moment
[09:31] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Ok. I can help now =)
[09:31] <Talisker[w] > and I need access to the network files, O don't know where they are located
[09:32] <Talisker[w] > I guess the guy who installed the system kept them on the default path
[09:32] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : smbtree will show all the network paths on your network
[09:32] <Shinzetsu> gdb: it made ma laugh :P
[09:32] <gdb> Shinzetsu: have you run "dpkg-reconfigure usplash" ?
[09:32] <Talisker[w] > thanks :)
[09:32] <Shinzetsu> gdb: nope, will do now
[09:32] <stopher> Talisker[w]  samba?
[09:32] <gdb> Shinzetsu: worth a shot :-)
[09:32] <Talisker[w] > ...
[09:32] <Talisker[w] > these aren't folders
[09:33] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : From there, once you find a path, the following will let you mount the path: sudo mount -t smbfs //<Host>/<service> <mount dir>
[09:33] <Talisker[w] > cool
[09:33] <DarkElf109> It's a process =)
[09:33] <gdb> oh wow, the usplash control file is wrong
[09:33] <gdb> Section: universe/misc
[09:33] <Jamie> DamianFinol: hum.. i dont have the right to acess it still.
[09:33] <gdb> and it's not in universe... it's in main
[09:33] <Shinzetsu> gdb: hm nothing
[09:34] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Hrm, let me dig.
[09:34] <stopher> well i can't help ya my MSHOME went out
[09:34] <Talisker[w] > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on \MICHAC,
[09:34] <Talisker[w] >        missing codepage or other error
[09:34] <Talisker[w] >        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[09:34] <Talisker[w] >        dmesg | tail  or so
[09:34] <Jamie> how do I mount /dev/hdb1 to /home/jamie/Arkivet/ so i ahve the rights to acess it..? i must use sudo to mount it.. but now only root ahve access rights.
[09:34] <Talisker[w] > oops, sorry for that paste
[09:35] <Talisker[w] > won't happen again
[09:35] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Replace the backslashes with forward slashes
[09:35] <Talisker[w] > Tried that
[09:35] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : bash reads backslashes oddle
[09:35] <DarkElf109> oddly*
[09:35] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Ah, it's what Bonez56 said earlier: update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so" -- did you run that?
[09:35] <gdb> er sans "
[09:35] <Talisker[w] > oh
[09:35] <Shinzetsu> yeah, i chose the ubuntu one :/
[09:35] <gdb> hrm
[09:35] <Talisker[w] > so I need to double them for the escape char?
[09:36] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Nah. Just use forward slashes
[09:36] <Shinzetsu> gdb: wait lemme show you
[09:36] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Ex: //Michac/blach
[09:36] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Also, make sure the smbfs package is installed
[09:36] <Jamie> anyoen have a sec?
[09:36] <Jamie> how do I mount /dev/hdb1 to /home/jamie/Arkivet/ so i ahve the rights to acess it..? i must use sudo to mount it.. but now only root ahve access rights.
[09:36] <Talisker[w] > OK, that might be the problem
[09:36] <Shinzetsu> gdb: http://www.pastecode.com/3001
[09:36] <Shinzetsu> gdb: see I got the default on
[09:36] <DarkElf109> Jamie: I have a time server. By the justification that it gives me time, I have all the time in my server =)
[09:37] <Jamie> DarkE: hehe funny ^
[09:37] <Shinzetsu> gdb: oh I forgot to copy the last line: "Press enter to keep the default[*] , or type selection number"
[09:37] <k0shi> Senao NL-2511CD PLUS EXT2 200mw PCMCIA WiFi 802.11b   ,  bad idea on ubuntu or not?
[09:37] <DarkElf109> Jamie: mount -t <fs type> -o uid=<username/number> /dev/hdb1 /home/jamie/Arkivet
[09:38] <Shinzetsu> gdb: if * = default then I have the right one right :\
[09:38] <DarkElf109> k0shi: Gimme that card, I want to wardrive!
[09:38] <PyroManiak> how do I set access so I can write into my folders?
[09:38] <munzir> Hi, by default all my commands are on tty pts/0, how can i shift to another tty?
[09:38] <DarkElf109> k0shi: Oh, yes, very good Linux card. Senaos are all outstanding as far as support goes
[09:38] <k0shi> DarkElf109: want a link for one for cheap?
[09:38] <Jamie> DarkE aho.. i see.. let me try.. and whats the proper fstab command?
[09:38] <Jamie> to enter it
[09:38] <DarkElf109> munzir: Ctrl+Alt+F<key>
[09:38] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Yes, * is the one it's using.
[09:38] <k0shi> http://wlanparts.com/product/NL2511CDPLUSEXT2%3A%23Z00
[09:38] <Shinzetsu> gdb: well I get the Xubuntu one
[09:38] <munzir> DarkElf109: it's a sytem I am loggin in using ssh
[09:38] <k0shi> im running Xubuntu now
[09:39] <DarkElf109> k0shi: Thanks =)
[09:39] <k0shi> Youll need an antenna to buy with it as well
[09:39] <DarkElf109> Jamie: That, I'm not sure of...
[09:39] <k0shi> ANTENNA NOT INCLUDED
[09:39] <rast4> can someone help me with su? I typed 'su' in terminal and it asks for the password, and I enter it and it says authentication failure Sory.
[09:39] <Shinzetsu> gdb: lets try and reboot
[09:39] <DarkElf109> k0shi: Meh, I've always wanted to build myself a double biquad =)
[09:39] <k0shi> sudo su
[09:39] <rast4> ty
[09:39] <zoidberg> hey guys i have a problem
[09:39] <k0shi> np
[09:39] <DarkElf109> rast4: Err, no, not sudo su...
[09:39] <zoidberg> my PCMCIA services fail to start at boot
[09:40] <DarkElf109> !sudo
[09:40] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:40] <zoidberg> does anyone know how i could fix that?
[09:40] <DarkElf109> munzir: Not sure how to do that, then...sorry
[09:40] <rast4> what I"m confused about is I need to run as root to change permissions with my /home folders
[09:40] <zoidberg> anyone?
[09:40] <k0shi> DarkElf109: Will it be easy to install on Xubuntu?
[09:40] <k0shi> that card that is...
[09:40] <florian> hi, is it possible to synchronize the system clock on startup?
[09:40] <DarkElf109> k0shi: Should be. May even be autodetected
[09:40] <DarkElf109> Probably, that is
[09:40] <k0shi> I hope
[09:41] <k0shi> Shit man, if not thatd suck
[09:41] <DarkElf109> !language
[09:41] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:41] <DarkElf109> florian: Yes
[09:41] <k0shi> Will I be needing to download like masssss drivers?
[09:41] <PyroManiak> Anyone have experience getting a D-Link 650+ working with WEP?
[09:41] <Jamie> now it works.. nice..
[09:41] <DarkElf109> Nope. Shouldn't. If anything at all, you might need the restricted drivers
[09:41] <DarkElf109> !restricted
[09:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:41] <k0shi> 650+ isnt Prism2
[09:41] <k0shi> I know that
[09:41] <florian> DarkElf109: do you know a howto or can you tell me how to do that?
[09:41] <Jamie> ubuntu dosnet have support for playing mp3?
[09:42] <munzir> DarkElf109: np
[09:42] <[Nige] > hi all
[09:42] <[Nige] > how do get a script to run at boot time?
[09:42] <k0shi> Jamie: XMMS is what I use
[09:42] <k0shi> Jamie: sudo apt-get install xmms
[09:42] <Jamie> k0shi: where do i get it
[09:42] <Jamie> tahnx
[09:42] <rast4> DarkElf: if I'm using file manager, I don't have root permission to copy files over, how does one get these permissions?
[09:42] <k0shi> np
[09:43] <Bogaurd> hey guys... i just installed dapper server, and just installed exim4 as my MTA - but i dont have the 'mail' command =\
[09:43] <Shinzetsu> gdb: well I got rid of the kubuntu startup screen but I still have the Xubuntu login
[09:43] <Bogaurd> any idea as to why?
[09:43] <Bonez56> Jamie: you need codecs
[09:43] <DarkElf109> florian: Lookup ntpdate and initscripts
[09:43] <Bonez56> Jamie: you need codecs, not just a player
[09:43] <Shinzetsu> brb
[09:43] <k0shi> I figure xmms is nice and comes with a fair amount of codecs
[09:43] <jeeaar> hmm
[09:43] <DarkElf109> rast4: On your *own* home directory??
[09:43] <PyroManiak> Anyone D-Link 650+ working with WEP? works fine if I disable the wep key inside the router..
[09:44] <jeeaar> would anybody mind helping a new linux user set up his ventrilo server?"
[09:44] <Panserbjorn> Anyone have any idea why moving files from my linux partition to a FAT32 external would keep cutting out after a couple files?
[09:44] <DarkElf109> [Nige] : Copy/move/link a script to /etc/init.d/<scriptname>, give it executable permissions, and run "sudo update-rc.d add <scriptname> defaults"
[09:44] <bbrazil> Panserbjorn: you're run out of diskspace?
[09:44] <rast4> yes DE, I downloaded something to my desktop and I need to copy it over to my /usr/share/amsn/skins folder
[09:44] <rast4> but I have mo permissions
[09:44] <DarkElf109> sudo <command>
[09:44] <[Nige] > thanks DarkElf109
[09:44] <Panserbjorn> bbrazil: Nope, 253GB free
[09:44] <[Nige] > i will give it a gao
[09:44] <DarkElf109> !sudo > rast4
[09:44] <bbrazil> Panserbjorn: files under 2GB?
[09:44] <Panserbjorn> aye, mp3s
[09:45] <k0shi> DarkElf109: What do you mean ill need restriced drivers?
[09:45] <k0shi> like wlan-linux?
[09:45] <Panserbjorn> sometimes a whole folder will transfer
[09:45] <Jamie> how do I make XMMS my standar player?
[09:45] <rast4> ty I will look
[09:45] <Jamie> for mp3's
[09:45] <bbrazil> Panserbjorn: what error is it giving?
[09:45] <k0shi> right click an mp3, change it i think
[09:45] <Bonez56> Jamie: similar to windows, double click a .mp3 file and tell it to always open with xmms
[09:45] <Panserbjorn> bbrazil: no error, moving window just disappears
[09:45] <DarkElf109> k0shi: Some drivers are proprietary...and therefore not included by default for legal reasons
[09:45] <PyroManiak> hmm... the ubuntu help site is down?
[09:45] <bbrazil> Panserbjorn: ah, try using cp from the terminal
[09:45] <Bogaurd> I just installed dapper server, and just installed exim4 as my MTA - but i dont have the 'mail' command =\ - have i forgotten something?
[09:45] <k0shi> Got any links for such drivers?
[09:45] <Talisker[w] > Hi, do I have to somehow reload samba after adding remote shared folders?
[09:46] <Bogaurd> PyroManiak: working fine here...
[09:46] <rast4> yeah I got a time out
[09:46] <Bonez56> Talisker[w] : sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[09:46] <Talisker[w] > Because smbtree won't see them
[09:46] <rast4> on the help page
[09:46] <Talisker[w] > thanks
[09:46] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[09:46] <Panserbjorn> bbrazil: thanks, will try
[09:46] <PyroManiak> Bogaurd: Wonder why it isn't working for me :[
[09:46] <PyroManiak> boguard I'm trying to open https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[09:46] <Talisker[w] > sudo: /etc/init.d/samba: command not found
[09:46] <Bogaurd> yah... I wonder why the 'mail' command isnt working for me :(
[09:47] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Oh. Then you don't have samba installed
[09:47] <Talisker[w] > ...
[09:47] <DarkElf109> Bogaurd: Did you try runningit through sudo?
[09:47] <Bogaurd> PyroManiak: ah, you're right. that one's not working.
[09:47] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : sudo apt-get install samba
[09:47] <PyroManiak> I can't get to the wiki site, or the help site
[09:47] <Talisker[w] > I DO have samba
[09:47] <rast4> *sniff* I can't get to the help site either
[09:47] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Wait...are you sharing folders?
[09:47] <k0shi> DarkElf109: I know what youre talking about , i think, got any links for thos restr. drivers?
[09:47] <Bogaurd> DarkElf109, yeah, it just says unknown command?
[09:47] <PyroManiak> Bogaurd: try this one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[09:48] <Talisker[w] > Maybe, but I'm trying to access remote folders ATM
[09:48] <DarkElf109> k0shi: they're in the repository
[09:48] <minerale> whoa I never realised how awfully slow ntfs-3g is... I'm copying over a .iso file and this thinks takes *FOREVER*
[09:48] <DarkElf109> !restricted > k0shi
[09:48] <Panserbjorn> bbrazil: would I type something like "cp /home/mark/Desktop/CDs /media/WD/CDs"? I do that and get error
[09:48] <Panserbjorn> bbrazil: haven't used cp before
[09:48] <ireneshusband> inserting my pcmcia wavelan silver into my dapper powerbook causes an instant and total lockup. If I rmmod pcmcia and then insert the card, modprobe pcmcia hangs. Is there anything I can do about this?
[09:48] <Bonez56> remote folders uses smbclient
[09:48] <Bonez56> not samba
[09:48] <DarkElf109> minerale: According to the tests they've done, it's faster than most of the others
[09:48] <Bogaurd> PyroManiak: nope :(
[09:48] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Oh, then, no, shouldn't need to restart anything
[09:48] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Just cd to the folder where you mounted the share
[09:49] <minerale> darkelf109: well, it's using 100 percent cpu on me and i'm du -sh'ing as it goes through, and it's slow
[09:49] <k0shi> DarkElf109: Run that as a command?
[09:49] <DarkElf109> minerale: Well, you might want to tell the author, then =)
[09:49] <Talisker[w] > DarkElf109, I don't think you catch my drift
[09:49] <Talisker[w] > I have a remote folder I need to access
[09:49] <Talisker[w] > and I can't mount it
[09:49] <Talisker[w] > because smbtree won't detect it
[09:49] <Bonez56> Talisker[w] : mount -t smbfs -o username=tridge,password=foobar //fjall/test /data/test
[09:49] <k0shi> DarkElf109 is chattin it up tonight damn dude, haha
[09:49] <funkja> I have a computer that I tried to dual boot Vista on and it messed something up and now doesn't detect GRUB. I booted with the ubuntu Live cd and all the grub files are still there. How do I set it to use GRUB?
[09:49] <DarkElf109> !language
[09:49] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:49] <PyroManiak> Since help isn't working, can someone tell me how to use NDISwrapper with my D-Link 650+?
[09:49] <overflow-1> hi
[09:50] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Hrm...not sure, then. In /etc/samba/smb.conf, is the workgroup setting correct?
[09:50] <overflow-1> On my machine, X is started up with the -nolisten argument; how do i disable that from happening - /usr/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
[09:50] <Talisker[w] > DarkElf109, you told me I need to do samba restart
[09:50] <DarkElf109> !restricted
[09:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:50] <Talisker[w] > But I don't know where samba is located on that system
[09:50] <DarkElf109> k0shi: Go to those sites
[09:51] <Talisker[w] > The settings are fine, BTW
[09:51] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Ignore that. That;'s just for the server
[09:51] <Talisker[w] > Oh
[09:51] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : smbtree *should* show everything...it's just wonkly because it's a windows protocol
[09:51] <DarkElf109> wonky*
[09:51] <DarkElf109> Wow...typing too fast
[09:51] <k0shi> help.ubuntu.com isnt working haha
[09:51] <ireneshusband> does pcmcia work in dapper?
[09:52] <Ribs> the wiki is down as well
[09:52] <DarkElf109> ireneshusband: Yes
[09:52] <gdb> damn, sorry for falling quiet
[09:52] <DarkElf109> !language
[09:52] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:52] <wasauce> anyone have an idea on how to get Wake on lan to work premanently... i.e. so I dont have to have to run the following code before each shutdown? ethtool -s eth0 wol g
[09:52] <gdb> neighbor banging on my door needed to use my phone
[09:52] <ireneshusband> right. so why does inserting my wavelan card in my powerbook cause a lockup?
[09:52] <DarkElf109> ireneshusband: Because it's overloaded with dark energy
[09:53] <Jamie> Whats a good player for divx, xvid and such?
[09:53] <gdb> his gf was having a severe athsma attack and couldn't breathe
[09:53] <Talisker[w] > DarkElf109, so what can I do about it?
[09:53] <Jamie> vlc?
[09:53] <gdb> ambulance is over there now with her
[09:53] <ripper> how can i remove a network place from places, it wont let me remove it via right click
[09:53] <ragz> hey, anyone know why i can see myself typing letters outside of the a-z alphabet, and i can see others typing it too, but my letters won't display the way they should in others irc-clients?
[09:53] <ireneshusband> shouldda known :)
[09:53] <Talisker[w] > are you suggesting that I could mount the folder even though it's not in smbtree?
[09:53] <Shinzetsu> gdb: hey I fixed the login window via gnome (system > administration > loginscreen)
[09:53] <gdb> Shinzetsu: oh cool! lol
[09:53] <gdb> Didn't think it'd be that easy. lol
[09:53] <DarkElf109> ireneshusband: http://www.popsci.com/popsci/computerselec/b49dd4d03cb84010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html
[09:54] <minerale> darkelf109: as of a last minute hasty calculation: I'm getting 52mb per minute write speed using ntfs 3g, is that anywhere close to what other ntfs drives give ?
[09:54] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : I...don't know...not really sure
[09:54] <ripper> nvm i got it
[09:54] <DarkElf109> minerale: Also don't know...check up on the original ntfs-3g announcement. Stats were listed there
[09:55] <jeeaar> ok, ive got a file: "ventrilo_srv", on my desktop, and id like to execute it, but I dont know what to put into my terminal, i r noob
[09:55] <Talisker[w] > ...
[09:55] <Talisker[w] > I'm stuck
[09:55] <DarkElf109> Jamie: Xine, VLC both work, but fot the former, you'll need codecs
[09:55] <Shinzetsu> gdb: gonna have breakfast now, then remove all that kde stuff brb
[09:55] <Shinzetsu> Shinzetsu^AFK
[09:55] <Shinzetsu^AFK> forgot /nick :-) bye
[09:55] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: cd to /home/<username>/Desktop, then type ./ventrilo_srv, and hit returm
[09:56] <k0shi> DarkElf109: sorry to bog you down with the same question, but is there anywhere else for such drivers?
[09:56] <DarkElf109> !automatix
[09:56] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[09:56] <jeeaar> cd stands for?
[09:56] <DarkElf109> There. A link that actually works =)
[09:56] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: Change Directory
[09:56] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: It's a command
[09:56] <jeeaar> ok, so i have to set a directory before i can execute under it?
[09:56] <redblades> Hi, how do I install ubuntu with the X installer?
[09:57] <redblades> As in, just use it normally, not a live CD
[09:57] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: No, but it makes more sense. If it creates any extra files, it usually drops them in the working directory if the location isn't explicitly set
[09:57] <redblades> The box I'm planning to use it fairly slowish
[09:57] <jeeaar> ok, cool
[09:57] <jeeaar> thx
[09:57] <DarkElf109> redblades: TRhere should be an icon on the desktop when you boot with the LiveCD installer that say "IOnstall Ubuntu". Double-click it
[09:57] <redblades> DarkE
[09:58] <DarkElf109> Gah...can't type this fast...
[09:58] <redblades> DarkElf109, I want to use the non-X installer.
[09:58] <DarkElf109> redblades: Ah. Then you'll need the alternate install CD
[09:58] <Jamie> hum.. anyoen running VLC media player on linux?
[09:58] <ireneshusband> would replacing the ubuntu kernel with a more vanilla one reduce the pcmcia-related dark energy, or would that just leave me with bigger problems?
[09:58] <DarkElf109> Jamie: I am =)
[09:58] <Jamie> DarkElf: how do i get it and install apt cant find it
[09:58] <DarkElf109> ireneshusband: It may or may not remove the pcmcia problem...it also may or may not introduce new problems
[09:59] <DarkElf109> !automatix > Jamie
[09:59] <redblades> DarkElf109, where might I find the link for that? I can't locate it on the Ubuntu site...
[09:59] <ireneshusband> ah
[09:59] <DarkElf109> ireneshusband: What happens, exactly? You plug it in, and the computer shuts off?
[10:00] <DarkElf109> redblades: Any download mirror, just find the "alternate install cd" link
[10:00] <k0shi> DarkElf109: Know any good resources for WiFi card installation on linux?
[10:00] <ireneshusband> locks up completely and utterly. no ctrl-alt-F?. no nuthin.
[10:00] <munzir> Hi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ doesn't work for me. Only me?
[10:00] <k0shi> no
[10:00] <DarkElf109> k0shi: The wiki that's down and making this oh so much harder =)
[10:00] <k0shi> wiki is down
[10:01] <k0shi> its beeeen down
[10:01] <JoshHendo> yea, I just noticed that
[10:01] <munzir> bad
[10:01] <JoshHendo> do you know how long?
[10:01] <redblades> Oh.... dear....
[10:01] <DarkElf109> ireneshusband: Restart the computer in single user mode (recovery mode, I think GRUB calls it by default), and try inserting it. Might simply be an X problems
[10:01] <redblades> I forgot... if I download it... I'll exceed my limit.
[10:02] <jeeaar> has anybody here worked with ventrilo in the past?
[10:02] <minerale> Hi, how can I issue a 'eject cd' command through the command line ?
[10:02] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: Server or client?
[10:02] <jeeaar> server
[10:02] <DarkElf109> Sorry, can't help ya
[10:02] <jeeaar> :(
[10:02] <due> I'm having issues with shutting my new install of Dapper down; it's a laptop, Dell, apparently it was an issue with the ipw2200 (found some posts about it from a few years ago), but even modprobe -r before shutdown still makes it hang on "Mounting the root filesystem read only".
[10:02] <jeeaar> i think i have the server running, i just dont think ive defined a connection point.
[10:02] <DarkElf109> minerale: man eject
[10:03] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: ps -A | grep ventrilo
[10:03] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: That'll let you know if it's running or not
[10:03] <ireneshusband> when  i try booting with the card inserted I get a raft of kernel error messages and a failed boot, way before x starts. I'll have to try crashing the puter again to get a summary unfortunately.
[10:04] <DarkElf109> ireneshusband: Funny thing, XP actually has a key combo that can be set in the registry to crash the computer on command =P
[10:04] <ireneshusband> and when i rmmod pcmcia and insert the card, modprobe pcmcia hangs (but the system doesn't)
[10:05] <NickGarvey> DarkElf109: ctrl scroll scroll :)
[10:05] <NickGarvey> DarkElf109: instant BSOD
[10:05] <DarkElf109> ireneshusband: What kind of card was it again? I'll do some research in the meantime
[10:05] <ireneshusband> that xp key combo is like trying to remember how to fall over when you are drunk
[10:06] <nathanl> hello, I'm having trouble with EasyUbuntu...I cant seem to connect to freecontrib
[10:06] <ireneshusband> wavelan silver (orinoco)
[10:06] <nathanl> it keeps timing out when I try to connect
[10:06] <DarkElf109> NickGarvey: Well, there's one for Linux too, but it's 6 key combos in a string that all involve both ctrl and scroll lock...I never remembered the nemonic for the commands, though =/
[10:06] <jeeaar> DarkElf109 im getting "28650 pts/0    00:00:00 ventrilo_srv
[10:06] <jeeaar> "
[10:06] <jay> Hi
[10:06] <rast4> is aMSN crappy white texting that is super hard to read?
[10:06] <NickGarvey> DarkElf109: um.. alt sysrq b might do it
[10:06] <rast4> I tried to change it, but I can't...
[10:07] <DarkElf109> NickGarvey: Something about elephants was definitely in there...
[10:07] <DarkElf109> NickGarvey: Raising Skinny Elephants Is Utterly Boring.
[10:07] <DarkElf109> http://www.pcsympathy.com/contentid-41.html
[10:08] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: That means that it's running
[10:08] <jay> [Help?]  When i try to install RealPlayer10GOLD.bin on my ubuntu, it tells: ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:08] <jay> ? ------Whatcan I do?
[10:08] <srikanthssn> how do i change desktop frm GNOME to KDE.. i installed KDE frm ubuntu dvd.. any help plz
[10:08] <jeeaar> hmm
[10:08] <jeeaar> ok
[10:08] <_JECKEL_> so how would I put kde on if I allready got the version with gnome?
[10:08] <NickGarvey> _JECKEL_: I don't understand
[10:09] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:09] <_JECKEL_> cool
[10:09] <_JECKEL_> tnx
[10:09] <NickGarvey> oh thats what he was asking
[10:09] <jeeaar> DarkElf109: Does being behind a router mean i need to set permissions in the router settings?
[10:09] <NickGarvey> jeeaar: that means you have a little box between your modem and your computer
[10:09] <nathanl> Could someone help me?
[10:10] <NickGarvey> nathan_: what can we do for you?
[10:10] <jeeaar> NickGarvey: very clever
[10:10] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: No idea. Never ran a ventrilo server
[10:10] <cry0gen> NickGarvey: :D PEBKAC
[10:10] <NickGarvey> ah :)
[10:10] <nathanl> I cant connect to freecontrib.org, as I was trying to get easyubuntu, so I could download whatever I needed to listen to mp3's
[10:10] <goblyn> how do i restart x?
[10:10] <_JECKEL_> yeah..seems to be no problems with the router I just got
[10:10] <DarkElf109> goblyn: From a terminal: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:11] <DarkElf109> He was using XChat =)
[10:11] <nathanl> so, does anyone have the easyubuntu.tar file or am i out of luck?
[10:11] <NickGarvey> nathanl: hmm, I think you can apt-get install lame (I believe)
[10:11] <_JECKEL_> I plan on putting ubuntu on my coming laptop
[10:11] <_JECKEL_> how well is the wireless support?
[10:11] <NickGarvey> !mp3 > nathanl
[10:11] <_JECKEL_> about as well as I can make it?
[10:11] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: I'd send you to the wiki page about it, but the wiki is down =)
[10:12] <NickGarvey> nathanl: but the server is down..
[10:12] <DarkElf109> Ubuntu has some of, if not the, best hardware support of any linux distro
[10:12] <nathanl> yeah
[10:12] <_JECKEL_> no problem..I'm not getting the laptop till x-mas
[10:12] <nathanl> for some reason the ubuntu page doesnt like me
[10:13] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: Even if your card's not natively supported, there's always ndiswrapper
[10:13] <_JECKEL_> how is 64 bit ubuntu?
[10:13] <DarkElf109> nathanl: Not just you. The server's down
[10:13] <shekhar> hello can someone help me with partitioning
[10:13] <NickGarvey> _JECKEL_: its.. very 64 bit.. not dual arch...
[10:13] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: Same as standard, except you'll need to get 32-bit firefox if you want flash, etc.
[10:13] <_JECKEL_> plan on having at least a 64 bit OS installed even though i'll have 32 bit windows
[10:13] <DarkElf109> shekhar: Probably =)
[10:14] <_JECKEL_> hmmm
[10:14] <_JECKEL_> does ubuntu support dual cores?
[10:14] <NickGarvey> nathanl: try "apt-get install mpg321"
[10:14] <shekhar> DarkElf109:  i want to create an extended partition on my HD but gparted won't allow me
[10:14] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: Honestly, you're much better off with 32 bit...codecs and other proprietary stuff requires it
[10:14] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: Yeah
[10:14] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: Heck, it supoports multiple processors
[10:14] <DarkElf109> All Linuxes do =)
[10:14] <_JECKEL_> I could allways upgrade later I suppose
[10:14] <DarkElf109> shekhar: Won't let you?
[10:14] <_JECKEL_> not like the 64 bit processors can't run 32 bit stuff anyway.
[10:14] <NickGarvey> shekhar: how many partitions do you have now?
[10:15] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: Like I said, better off with 32 bit
[10:15] <_JECKEL_> but i'd rather be prepared...FOR THE FUTURE!
[10:15] <DarkElf109> lol
[10:15] <DarkElf109> 128-bit processors!
[10:15] <synd3> http://www.system76.com/index.php/cPath/53_64
[10:15] <_JECKEL_> future uture ture ure re re e
[10:15] <DarkElf109> Well...AMD is working on the 4-core proc
[10:15] <synd3> Get your free powered by ubuntu stickers!
[10:15] <NickGarvey> wow
[10:15] <shekhar> NickGarvey DarkElf109 : i have three already and want a fourth, so i am deleting the third one and trying to create it as an extended partition
[10:15] <rast4_> how would I download BitchX with UbuntU
[10:15] <nathanl> NickGarvey: apt-get install lame doesnt work
[10:16] <NickGarvey> shekhar: and what is it not letting you do?
[10:16] <rast4_> xchat is yuck
[10:16] <_JECKEL_> sucks that nothing really ever gets supported till microsoft gets off it's ass
[10:16] <NickGarvey> rast4: probably apt-get install bitchx
[10:16] <rast4_> ty
[10:16] <DarkElf109> rast4_: sudo apt-get install bitchx
[10:16] <synd3> rast4_: Irssi
[10:16] <NickGarvey> nathanl: do the second one, mpg321
[10:16] <shekhar> NickGarvey DarkElf109 : it doesn't give me the option to format as extended partition in gparted format dialogue
[10:16] <nathanl> ok
[10:16] <_JECKEL_> i'm expecting vista to completley get rid of the keyboard and all to be nothing more than point and click
[10:16] <_JECKEL_> and no abillity to delete anything
[10:16] <_JECKEL_> yay..idiot proofing.
[10:16] <rast4_> Vista isn't the greatest thing
[10:16] <NickGarvey> nathanl: here let me give you the page I am looking at
[10:17] <rast4_> I'm beta testing it and have been since the beginning
[10:17] <nathanl> NickGarvey: mpg321 is already the newest version.
[10:17] <NickGarvey> nathanl: http://tinyurl.com/loavd
[10:17] <rast4_> It's just a rip off of a Mac and linux
[10:17] <rast4_> and the cost of Vista is going to be crazy
[10:17] <NickGarvey> nathanl: don't click any of the links on that page though, they won't work
[10:17] <synd3> rast4_: What does Vista take from Linux?
[10:17] <PyroManiak> why is the wiki down??
[10:17] <DarkElf109> PyroManiak: Because it's not up
[10:17] <rast4_> they tried to base their security and their cmd off it
[10:17] <rast4_> they are comparing it themselves with the security of a stable linux
[10:17] <Madpilot> DarkElf109, +1 ;)
[10:18] <PyroManiak> DarkElf109: har har.... I meant, was it down for maintainence... or just down?
[10:18] <DarkElf109> PyroManiak: Well, nobody's announced anything, so AFAIK, it's just down
[10:18] <DarkElf109> I'm guessing that the server was attacked by an elite squad of Microsoft's Nija Lawyers out for revenge
[10:18] <DarkElf109> See Bug #1 for reference
[10:19] <DarkElf109> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1
[10:19] <sethk> DarkElf109, or perhaps too many people were hitting it at once?  Less interesting, I know, but ...
[10:19] <Tonren> hey guys, what's a goood app for viewing FLV files, or converting them?
[10:19] <DarkElf109> sethk: I doubt it. Those servers can take a beating
[10:19] <Tarandus> Tonren: AFAIK mplayer works for that
[10:20] <DevGet> I'm trying to connect a ubuntu station to wlan, but when I run, I only get a lot of DHCPDISCOVER and no connection, what's worng?
[10:20] <Tonren> Tarandus: I don't have sound, and it's choppy.  Do I need another plugin?
[10:20] <DevGet> when I scanned I found my wlan
[10:20] <Tarandus> Tonren: How fast is your machine?
[10:20] <NickGarvey> DevGet: oh.. I had that problem.. which is why.. I use suse now..
[10:20] <DarkElf109> DevGet: Are your wireless settings configured properly?
[10:20] <rast4_> E: Couldn't find package BitchX
[10:20] <Tonren> DevGet: Have you run sudo iwconfig eth1 ap any ?
[10:20] <Tonren> Tarandus: 1.8 GHz 758 megs of RAM
[10:20] <NickGarvey> rast4: try apt-cache search bitchx then
[10:20] <Tonren> Tarandus: When I stream the same video from YouTube, it runs fine
[10:20] <nathanl> NickGarvey: I'm installing those, so hopefully they'll help, I'll let you know
[10:20] <DevGet> Tonren: no?
[10:21] <Tarandus> Tonren: That should be fast enough.  Have you tried -vo xv ?
[10:21] <DarkElf109> !source-o-matic > rast4_
[10:21] <DevGet> DarkElf109: yes
[10:21] <Tonren> DevGet: Wireless in Ubuntu works just like in windows: You have to tell it which access point to use
[10:21] <Shinzetsu^AFK> back
[10:21] <DarkElf109> Shinzetsu: Welcome back
[10:21] <rast4_> ty all around
[10:21] <Shinzetsu> DarkElf109: thanks :-)
[10:21] <Tarandus> DevGet: I got my WLAN working by using gnome-network-manager
[10:21] <Tonren> DevGet: Run ' sudo iwconfig ethX ap any ' and HTEN sudo dhclient ethX, where X is the # of your wlan connection
[10:21] <Tonren> Tarandus: What is -vo xv...?
[10:21] <DevGet> Tonren: I have runed iwconfig ra0 essid <myessid>
[10:22] <Tonren> DevGet: In iwconfig, does it confirm that it has connected to that AP?
[10:22] <DarkElf109> Hrm...I need to do a certain amount of community service per year of High School because of a program that I'm in...who would I get to sign the form to verify that I worked X number of hours in this room?
[10:22] <Tarandus> DevGet: network-manager displays the networks in a menu, and it works out of the box if you have no static IP addresses
[10:22] <Tonren> Tarandus: What's the command line for mplayer ? It doesn't appear to be mplayer
[10:22] <PyroManiak> Wlan0: Duplicate Address Detected! <-- What does this mean, how can I fix?
[10:23] <DarkElf109> Not that that's why I'm here, but...would be nice if I could use it for that =)
[10:23] <DarkElf109> PyroManiak: Means that somebody else on your network is already using your IP
[10:23] <Tonren> Tarandus: Is mplayer just totem?
[10:23] <DarkElf109> PyroManiak: sudo dhclient wlan0 SHOULD fix it if you're using DHCP
[10:23] <DarkElf109> PyroManiak: If you've got a static address, go beat up the person trying to steal your address
[10:23] <DevGet> Tonren: yes, there is som numbers after access point
[10:24] <Tonren> DevGet: Hmm.. .not sure what your prob is
[10:24] <Tarandus> Tonren: mplayer is a separate package, not related to totem
[10:24] <Tonren> Tarandus: ooo.
[10:24] <Tarandus> Tonren: and yes, the commandline is mplayer
[10:24] <Tonren> Tarandus: Totem is sneaky
[10:24] <DarkElf109> Tarandus: There is a GTK mplayer client, however
[10:24] <DevGet> may I should try NetworkManager?
[10:24] <Tonren> Tarandus: Its "name" in Applications menu is just "Movie Player"
[10:25] <DarkElf109> Tonren: The idea is that, for the average user, it's the Movie Player that they should use
[10:25] <Tarandus> Tonren: that's something I'm opposed to in Gnome
[10:25] <DarkElf109> You can always rename them
[10:25] <DarkElf109> And don't blame GNOME, blame the Ubuntu devs
[10:25] <Tonren> Tarandus: I don't think I have the "xv" video output driver
[10:26] <DarkElf109> By default, it would appear as Totem
[10:26] <Tonren> Tarandus: How do I get it?
[10:26] <Tonren> DarkElf109: That's too far in the direction of "user friendly" .  User friendly should never be "stupid friendly"
[10:26] <Jamie> how do i get support for my tvout?
[10:26] <DarkElf109> Tonren: You still haven't learned that all users are stupid in the eyes of the developers =)
[10:26] <nathanl> NickGarvey: are you any good with amarok? it's still not working, it skips through the playlist and wont play them
[10:26] <Tarandus> Tonren: I don't know really.  I haven't played anything with mplayer in Ubuntu.  With gentoo, the xv output plugin comes automatically.
[10:26] <NickGarvey> nathanl: I use mplayer from the command line heh
[10:27] <DarkElf109> Jamie: Pray really really hard =)
[10:27] <NickGarvey> nathanl: (no I'm not :))
[10:27] <DarkElf109> Jamie: I'd give better advice, but the wiki's down =/
[10:27] <Tarandus> Tonren: So I'd guess that it is there too in Ubuntu
[10:27] <rast4_> I have no idea how to use the link I got from you DE
[10:27] <rast4_> :(
[10:27] <Tonren> Tarandus: Oh, I didn't realize that you MUST supply a file argument to mplayer
[10:27] <Tonren> Tarandus: I'm still not getting any sound
[10:27] <PyroManiak> DarkElf109: Ok, apparently the router didn't have enough IP's given for the DHCP server.. all better now
[10:27] <DarkElf109> nathanl: Choose a different output method
[10:27] <Tonren> Tarandus: Oh.. running without -vo xv gives me sound.  Weird. Whatev!
[10:28] <DarkElf109> rast4_: Just select all the official ones...then save that file as /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:28] <Tarandus> Tonren: That exceeds my tolerance for weirdness, and so I have no idea why it does that.  Maybe try to specify a sound output plugin too.
[10:28] <Shinzetsu> gdb: my school forces me to run winxp on my macbook =o
[10:28] <nathanl> NickGarvey: is there an arts plugin for amarok?
[10:28] <Shinzetsu> sorry #offtopic
[10:28] <Tonren> Tarandus: It runs fine with no other arguments, actually.  Weird
[10:29] <rast4_> ok I'll try
[10:29] <NickGarvey> nathanl: not even sure what arts stands for :) (I did.. 2 days ago though..)
[10:29] <Tarandus> Tonren: Then again, does the -vo xv help with the playback speed of flv files?
[10:29] <gdb> Shinzetsu: omg, that's evil
[10:29] <Pntkl> hi
[10:29] <Tonren> Tarandus: Nope.  Playback is fine without -vo xv.
[10:29] <DarkElf109> Pntkl: Heya
[10:29] <Jamie> DarkElf109 heh.. so u dont realy know?
[10:29] <Shinzetsu> gdb: I refuse :-)
[10:29] <Tarandus> Tonren: If not, then I'd assume it uses xv output by default.
[10:29] <Jamie> DarkElf109 but it shoudl be possible right?
[10:29] <DarkElf109> Jamie: Depends on your card, etc.
[10:29] <Tonren> Tarandus: Only in mplayer though.  Totem hosed it.
[10:29] <Tarandus> Tonren: Ok
[10:29] <Jamie> DarkElf109: i ahve Gforce 4
[10:30] <DarkElf109> Jamie: Yeah. The wiki just does a much better job than I ever could of trying to figure it out
[10:30] <nathanl> lol, ok
[10:30] <Tonren> Tarandus: Potentially, anyway.  Whatever.. it works, I'm happy. :)  sometimes delving just ain't worth it.  Now I'm gonna get some sleep
[10:30] <Tonren> thanks all
[10:30] <Tonren> g'night
[10:30] <Shinzetsu> night
[10:30] <Jamie> DarkElf109: ok.. what is winki?
[10:30] <nathanl> now I'm at a loss
[10:30] <nathanl> what do I do now?
[10:30] <DarkElf109> Jamie: The wiki is the central repository for all ubuntu support material...it just happens to be down right now
[10:31] <rast4_> DE: does it save it automatically to that location or am I suppose to save it somehow? I got a new page with information on it, nothing to save on it.
[10:31] <nathanl> yeah I know, and I cant connect to freecontrib for some reason
[10:31] <_JECKEL_> there's also like two books on ubuntu out there
[10:31] <DarkElf109> nathanl: Ok. Go to Amarok settings, the engine page, and try all the different output plugins
[10:31] <_JECKEL_> saw em at the book store
[10:31] <nathanl> DarkElf109: I've done that, same problem
[10:31] <DarkElf109> Oh. It might be a codec thing, then
[10:32] <yey> hi
[10:32] <yey> I have a problem with 'colorgcc', it doesn't color anything when it's called by vim's ":make"
[10:32] <DarkElf109> rast4_: You're supposed to save that page
[10:32] <DarkElf109> !sources.list
[10:32] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:32] <DarkElf109> That's for you, rast
[10:32] <yey> I have already in my .vimrc: set makeprg=colorgcc\ -Wall\ -O2\ -o\ %:r.bin\ %
[10:32] <rast4_> thank you for your info and tolerance :D
[10:32] <shekhar> DarkElf109:  i think i've figured out the extended partition problem
[10:32] <_JECKEL_> anyone know where I can find more pointer sets?
[10:33] <DarkElf109> shekhar: Really? What was it?
[10:33] <shekhar> DarkElf109:  now when i have mounted the partition it says i do not have permissions to copy files to it
[10:33] <yey> I have a problem with 'colorgcc', it doesn't color anything when it's called by vim's ":make"
[10:33] <shekhar> DarkElf109:  do i need to do something special in /etc/fstab?
[10:33] <DarkElf109> shekhar: What partition type?
[10:33] <shekhar> DarkElf109:  ext3
[10:34] <DarkElf109> Either access it as root, or change the permissions
[10:34] <yey> I have a problem with 'colorgcc', it doesn't color anything when it's called by vim's ":make"
[10:34] <shekhar> DarkElf109:  the whole reason i'm doing this is because the earlier fat3 partition didn't save unix permissions
[10:34] <shekhar> err, fat32
[10:34] <DarkElf109> Yeah, just chmod -r the directory that it's mounted at to your user as root
[10:34] <NickGarvey> shekhar: if you are just backing things up, you can tar them and put them in the fat32 partition
[10:34] <DarkElf109> sudo chmod -r <username> <mountpoint>
[10:34] <yey> I have a problem with 'colorgcc', it doesn't color anything when it's called by vim's ":make". Could you help me?
[10:35] <NickGarvey> shekhar: but, windows can read write ext3 file systems, so you should little need for fat32
[10:35] <DarkElf109> yey: We hear your question, and if anybody knew the answer, they'd tell you =)
[10:35] <yey> DarkElf109: ;P
[10:35] <rast4> DE: can you do that with an NTFS partition to be able to write to it without damaging it with the dual boot?
[10:35] <NickGarvey> rast4: ntfs write is not generally a good think
[10:35] <NickGarvey> thing*
[10:36] <shekhar> DarkElf109:  shekhar@nowhereman:~$ sudo chmod -r shekhar /mnt/data
[10:36] <shekhar> chmod: cannot access `shekhar': No such file or directory
[10:36] <shekhar> oops sorry
[10:36] <NickGarvey> rast4: it CAN be done.. but its all experimental and such
[10:36] <DarkElf109> rast4: There are ways. They're all unstable and dangerous at the moment, but there are ways
[10:36] <_JECKEL_> eh..ntfs damaged by dual boot?
[10:36] <_JECKEL_> oh shi-
[10:36] <DarkElf109> shekhar: Whoops! chown...not chmod
[10:36] <rast4> like i can't write to my ntfs mount points
[10:36] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: Nonono
[10:36] <rast4> so I was wondering if I could change permissions so I could
[10:36] <shekhar> NickGarvey:  so i can store windows apps on the ext3 partition?
[10:36] <rast4> but I hear about possible damaging
[10:36] <rast4> so I'm not in
[10:36] <NickGarvey> shekhar: yup
[10:36] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: Writing to NTFS from Linux
[10:36] <rast4> :D
[10:36] <NickGarvey> shekhar: but you need a special driver
[10:37] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: Risky stuff, if you value your data
[10:37] <_JECKEL_> oh
[10:37] <NickGarvey> !ext3
[10:37] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[10:37] <_JECKEL_> pfft
[10:37] <NickGarvey> shekhar: use that ^
[10:37] <yey> rast4: ntfs drivers have been already intensively tested and they work well, I think that you should give them a try.
[10:37] <_JECKEL_> why would I do that?
[10:37] <shekhar> NickGarvey:  thanks!
[10:37] <NickGarvey> shekhar: :)
[10:37] <_JECKEL_> if anything i'd rather put as much windows stuff into linux than the other way around
[10:37] <rast4> what about making it so I can just write to my ext2 partition so I don't have to go in terminal and sudo su
[10:37] <shekhar> DarkElf109:  chown worked, thanks!
[10:37] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: You can play chick by copying large files over and over again with a friend...
[10:38] <DarkElf109> shekhar: =)
[10:38] <DarkElf109> chicken*
[10:38] <DarkElf109> \Gah
[10:38] <nathanl> this is just ridiculous
[10:38] <_JECKEL_> only real reason I have windows still here is simply because Wine sorta sucks at running some windows apps. like games
[10:38] <nathanl> for the life of me I cant get it to work
[10:38] <_JECKEL_> linux suxorz for games. :\
[10:38] <rast4> I run Vista and XP Pro's
[10:38] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: TuxRacer is great!
[10:38] <rast4> I'm migrating over though, but I need to get back into *nix
[10:38] <ardchoille> I *do* value my data.. that's why I refuse to use anything that comes from Microsoft ;)
[10:39] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: So is UT2k4, Doom3, etc.
[10:39] <Rookie-> if any likes win apps so much ... why emigrate to linux ... ?
[10:39] <DarkElf109> Ugh...new school year starts in 30 hours
[10:39] <_JECKEL_> perhaps if I simply ran windows in an emulator...perhaps then I could get games to properly work..
[10:40] <_JECKEL_> not wine..but an actual emulator
[10:40] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: They'd work, at about a 20-30% or more speed loss
[10:40] <NickGarvey> DarkElf109: 20 days for me :)
[10:40] <rast4> I don't like the apps, I use it because it's what 99.8% of my clients use, so I need to use it in order to interact with them
[10:40] <_JECKEL_> well here's the things...I like linux because of the power it gives me as an individual user
[10:40] <_JECKEL_> and that...
[10:40] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: It gives you no power as a user, unless you run as root =P
[10:41] <steveO_> Wonder if WINE would run Listen's Rhapsody client...
[10:41] <_JECKEL_> the fact that most of the world around me uses windows
[10:41] <_JECKEL_> face it..as a linux user..you're almost sorta like  a mac user....cept not as hated.
[10:41] <NickGarvey> hahaha
[10:41] <nathanl> NickGarvey: I got it to work
[10:41] <Rookie-> Well, what about the kernel? the security on atleast 2 levels - local and network ... the option to make a system that the user like ....
[10:41] <DarkElf109> Nah. As a Linux user, I actually have an argument that's better than "It has a better user interface"
[10:41] <yey> STiKi-: 10:37 < rast4> what about making it so I can just write to my ext2 partition so I don't have to go in terminal and sudo su
[10:42] <NickGarvey> nathanl: :) good
[10:42] <yey> damn it
[10:42] <DarkElf109> !language
[10:42] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:42] <Jamie> any good cdburner for ubuntu?
[10:42] <NickGarvey> Jamie: k3b/gnomebaker
[10:42] <nathanl> for dapper you have to install libxine-extracodecs
[10:42] <rast4> yey: you have an answer?
[10:42] <Jamie> NickHravey: thank you sir.. will look into them
[10:42] <yey> rast4: no
[10:42] <DarkElf109> Jamie: A bunch come with the system. Look in Applications> Sound & Video
[10:43] <Rookie-> if you install everything on ubuntu and i mean everything including gnome ... how much would it be ... ? 4 - 5 GB .. ?
[10:43] <nathanl> thanks NickGarvey, I'm out.
[10:43] <NickGarvey> night
[10:43] <DarkElf109> rast4: Oh, you shouldn't be using 'sudo su'. That's bad. Use 'sudo -s' instead
[10:43] <DarkElf109> Rookie-: Everything? Maybe a 1-200 gigs
[10:43] <_JECKEL_> I also decided to look into linux because I like (or rather liked) MUD games
[10:43] <DarkElf109> Rookie-: There are over 18.5 THOUSAND packages for Ubuntu
[10:44] <Rookie-> hmm ... i dont coulnt openoffice or such tings ...
[10:44] <_JECKEL_> and trying to run my own on an emulator (Cygwin) was fine...but..I wanted the real thing.
[10:44] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: Heh. I used to play MU*s fervently...good stuff
[10:44] <Rookie-> i just thinking of the system ... libs and so on
[10:44] <_JECKEL_> I used to be imm on a few DBZ muds
[10:44] <DarkElf109> Rookie-: Oh...you mean a default install?
[10:44] <_JECKEL_> but they all went down
[10:44] <_JECKEL_> which sucks
[10:44] <_JECKEL_> I miss it. :\
[10:44] <rast4> ok DE
[10:45] <DarkElf109> I'm a fantasy RPG fan...what can I say?
[10:45] <Rookie-> well yes ... and no ... default isnt more then 1 or 2 cd's ... that is about 2 GB ... maybe 3 ...
[10:45] <rast4_> I love RPG's
[10:45] <DarkElf109> I was in one for a while...an RP-heavy SciFi mining station sim. That was a good time
[10:45] <rast4_> I'm about to play Sacred
[10:45] <Kzar_fr> Hi ! Does anybody use RAKI and / or SynCE ?
[10:45] <Rookie-> why i asking is that i thinking to try ubuntu on desktop ... i running servers now
[10:46] <_JECKEL_> and yeah...if I get a good enough computer and just run apps from an emulator then I can just do that without worry of speed loss
[10:47] <DarkElf109> Rookie-: Ah. Well, then, yeah, shouldn't be more than 5 or 6 gigs... I'd say even a 10 gig HDD would cover you
[10:47] <DarkElf109> Not sure where you could find a new HDD under 40, though
[10:47] <jeeaar> hmm
[10:47] <Rookie-> ur right, i cant
[10:47] <rast4> I partitioned a 60 gb HD
[10:47] <jeeaar> are there any good win32 environemt emulators?
[10:47] <ramvi> Hi! My HP PhotoSmart-8200 only prints the first page... What do I do?
[10:47] <rast4> 10gb for ubuntu
[10:47] <Rookie-> 40 is the smallest ...
[10:47] <rast4> 2gb swap
[10:48] <rast4> 28gb for storage
[10:48] <rast4> and like 18gb for windoze main
[10:48] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: Environment?
[10:48] <DarkElf109> ramvi: Print each page as a single print job ;)
[10:48] <ramvi> DarkElf109, hehe, I was thinking more about having it work ;)
[10:49] <Rookie-> pretty big system ... since most other dists isnt more then 2-3 GB at default including a Xwin ...
[10:49] <Kzar_fr> jeeaar, Wine.
[10:49] <DarkElf109> ramvi: Come on, man! Back in my day, we had to transcribe the pages by hand! And we didn't even have ink! Had to etch it right into the stone tablets!
[10:49] <jeeaar> haha, sorry if my terminology is hazy, a more refined question would be "is there any way I can run an application in linux, that would normally only work in windows"
[10:49] <Kzar_fr> jeeaar, Wine
[10:49] <rast4_> lol DE
[10:49] <Rookie-> crossfire too ...
[10:49] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: Wine, if you want to run it semi-natively
[10:49] <NickGarvey> jeeaar: wine is wha you are looking for
[10:50] <rast4_> is wine really all that great of a program?
[10:50] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: If you want to emulate a full Windows install, there's qemu, or, if you want to pay, VMWare
[10:50] <ramvi> rast4, wine is amazing
[10:50] <rast4_> is it free?
[10:50] <DarkElf109> Yup!
[10:50] <rast4_> score!
[10:50] <_JECKEL_> yeah
[10:50] <rast4_> got a link?
[10:50] <Kzar_fr> rast4, Free as in Free speech, yes.
[10:50] <DarkElf109> Speech AND beer!
[10:50] <Rookie-> winex is not free ... bit better thou
[10:50] <Kzar_fr> rast4, sudo apt-get install wine
[10:50] <rast4_> even speech isn't fre in USA anymore
[10:50] <rast4_> ty
[10:50] <_JECKEL_> I must say...Wine though..you gotta put a little work into getting some things to work sometimes
[10:51] <DarkElf109> !winetools
[10:51] <jeeaar> correct me if im wrong, but for games and such, wine still wont allow video drivers to be installed, will it?
[10:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winetools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:51] <DarkElf109> Grr
[10:51] <rast4_> it's just to run windows apps correct?
[10:51] <_JECKEL_> it cost a buck fitty for speech
[10:51] <florian> hi, on startup "staring kernel event managaer" fails. I guess it has something to do with the use of insserv. what can I do to solve the problem?
[10:51] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: You *can* do it, but it's hard. Better off with Cedega
[10:51] <DarkElf109> rast4_: Yup
[10:51] <rast4_> right on
[10:51] <DarkElf109> rast4_: http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/
[10:52] <DarkElf109> That should save you some trouble
[10:52] <rast4_> nice, thanks DE
[10:52] <jeeaar> DarkElf1098: Cedega is the same concept?
[10:52] <yo2lux> Hi
[10:52] <lillpelle> If you want to use vmware and not pay: Install vmware 1 month try-out. During your month, install Windows and do the setups you like. After that, install vmware-player (is in the repos). Then you have it working.
[10:52] <nearfar> how do I *completely* remove kubuntu (from ubuntu)? 'apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop' only removes the meta package.
[10:52] <yo2lux> What I need to do to add windows fonts to ubuntu firefox ?
[10:52] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: Cedega is a fork of Wine that's been modified for better game support
[10:52] <DarkElf109> nearfar: It's in the wiki...which is down
[10:53] <nearfar> DarkElf109: what would be the 'page title' like? I will get it from google cache.
[10:53] <sethk> yo2lux, copy them into a directory that is in the font path.  You can find the font path in the X log
[10:53] <DarkElf109> nearfar: Never mind....found something better =)
[10:53] <DarkElf109> nearfar: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php
[10:53] <rast4_> man I'm so impressed with Ubuntu
[10:53] <DarkElf109> !automatix > yo2lux
[10:53] <rast4_> I used Slackware
[10:53] <rast4_> and that was a PITA
[10:53] <rast4_> this seems to be amazingly simple
[10:54] <rast4_> yet powerful
[10:54] <nearfar> ah! how different is aptitude from apt-get?
[10:54] <florian> is there a log file where the last shutdown has been logged?
[10:54] <DarkElf109> yo2lux: Or: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[10:54] <_JECKEL_> I tried using Fedora...
[10:54] <sethk> rast4_, slackware is a good server distro.  ubuntu is a better desktop distro, IMHO
[10:54] <DarkElf109> nearfar: Aptitude saves lives. and puppies
[10:54] <DarkElf109> nearfar: I love aptitude. It tracks dependencies
[10:55] <nearfar> but I didn't use aptitude to install anything
[10:55] <rast4_> I used it as a desktop, so I can't say
[10:55] <nearfar> DarkElf109: oh
[10:55] <_JECKEL_> but fedora pissed me off when it said "Due to some licensing issues and blah blah..playing that file extention is disabled" they freaking disabled MP3
[10:55] <yo2lux> Automatix has windows fonts ?
[10:55] <rast4_> I'm really curious about Ununti server
[10:55] <DarkElf109> nearfar: Meh. It'll just pick up whenever you start
[10:55] <rast4_> Automatix crashed my system :(
[10:55] <_JECKEL_> which was oh horribly not cool
[10:55] <DarkElf109> yo2lux: Think so. Try running that command I just posted
[10:55] <sethk> nearfar, it's a front end to apt-get, like synaptic, only synaptic is far superior
[10:55] <rast4_> I HATED Fedora core 4
[10:55] <rast4_> I'd rather use BSD than Fedora
[10:55] <Jamie> is there anyway to make a harddrive i have (ntfs) writable.. right now its not.
[10:55] <DarkElf109> sethk: Using aptitude as a GUI is bad
[10:55] <sethk> yo2lux, I have two machines running ubuntu server.  no problems.
[10:55] <jeeaar> pfft. i hated bsd
[10:55] <DarkElf109> !ntfs
[10:55] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[10:56] <sethk> DarkElf109, yes, I agree, but it does explain what it is w.r.t. apt-get
[10:56] <rast4_> it's hardware unfriendly
[10:56] <DarkElf109> Hrm...that's not the one...
[10:56] <DarkElf109> Jamie: http://ubuntuos.wordpress.com/2006/08/02/howto-write-to-windows-ntfs-drive-from-ubuntu-ntfs-3g/
[10:56] <sethk> jeeaar, I use bsd for some purposes.  Nothing to hate, at least rationally
[10:56] <nearfar> DarkElf109: that long second command tells that it would remove apache, gstreamer, etc.. :|
[10:56] <yo2lux> Swiftfox Plugins (Java, Flash, Acrobat, Mplayer, MS fonts)
[10:56] <nearfar> DarkElf109: even python
[10:56] <yo2lux> MS fonts is all fonts that I need?
[10:56] <rast4_> it's hella secure if configured properly
[10:57] <jeeaar> sethk: yes, i know my hatred is unfounded, but my first experience with open source was Open BSD, and i found it nearly impossible to use.
[10:57] <jeeaar> therefor i hate it
[10:57] <DarkElf109> nearfar: Well, best bet is to copy/paste all the stuff that it's removing that you want, and re-apt-get them later
[10:57] <sethk> rast4, what's hardware unfriendly, bsd?  Certainly supports a much smaller set of hardware.
[10:57] <DarkElf109> yo2lux: Should be
[10:57] <sethk> jeeaar, openbsd I would not tolerate either.  But don't condemn bsd because of openbsd
[10:57] <rast4_> sethk: yes, it hated most of my hardware of my servers
[10:57] <goblyn> whats a better plugin for firefox, the official Macromedia Flash, or a 3rd party plugin?
[10:58] <nearfar> DarkElf109: I am trying 'apt-get remove kdelibs-bin' .. which alone is removing many kde stuff
[10:58] <rast4_> I have 3 servers at my house
[10:58] <sethk> jeeaar, that's like condeming ubuntu because of gentoo  :)
[10:58] <_JECKEL_> BTW...any real substance to gnome vs KDE?
[10:58] <DarkElf109> nearfar: Might not get everything, though
[10:58] <rast4_> all 2k3 server software running on  them except one which has a Slack hardware firewall
[10:58] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: GNOME wins, because I like it better!
[10:58] <sethk> _JECKEL_, no, reallyl mostly a matter of taste
[10:58] <jeeaar> sethk: my remark was more off-hand and sarcastic than anything, sorry to offend you :P
[10:58] <DarkElf109> And there's no substance greater than that =)
[10:59] <sethk> jeeaar, that's ok, I just don't believe that to like ubuntu you have to hate other stuff.  :)
[10:59] <jeeaar> haha
[10:59] <DarkElf109> You don't? Well, that's changed MY worldview...
[10:59] <Rookie-> Unix *is* user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends are.
[10:59] <sethk> DarkElf109, that's why I'm here.  :)
[10:59] <rast4_> I stumbled upon Ubuntu last night on a google search
[10:59] <rast4_> decided to try it
[10:59] <rast4_> loving it so far
[10:59] <_JECKEL_> where can I place all this hate now?
[10:59] <jatt> with kde, when I insert a CD-ROM it gets automatically mounted (Dapper). I don't have the same behaviour with gnome -- I need to mount the CD manually. Which program in gnome can do that for me?
[10:59] <rast4_> still only have one issue, which is the Nvidia drivers for my laptop card
[11:00] <rast4_> but otherwise it's great and I don't want to play games
[11:00] <DarkElf109> jatt: Should be automatic...setting is...hold on
[11:00] <rast4_> so meh
[11:00] <jeeaar> yes, i now have nothing to hate.. better choose society
[11:00] <_JECKEL_> I never had that problem in gnome
[11:00] <rast4_> choose Republicans :)
[11:00] <rast4_> they are easy to hate
[11:00] <sethk> _JECKEL_, you can go troll on #debian
[11:00] <DarkElf109> jatt: System>Preferences>Removable Drives and Media
[11:00] <goblyn> whats a better plugin for firefox, the official Macromedia Flash, or a 3rd party plugin?
[11:01] <jeeaar> i would assume official?
[11:01] <rast4_> i need that too
[11:01] <jatt> DarkElf109: thanks. I see I don't have that menu entry, so probably I don't have the right package installed
[11:01] <Kzar_fr> goblyn, a plugin what for ?
[11:01] <DarkElf109> jatt: Hrm...should be installed with ubuntu-desktop, AFAIK
[11:02] <goblyn> Kzar_fr: Flash
[11:02] <DarkElf109> Yeah, go with official
[11:02] <jatt> DarkElf109: I see it must be the following package: gnome-volume-manager - GNOME daemon to auto-mount and manage media devices
[11:02] <Kzar_fr> goblyn, the Macromedia plugin is the right one for your needs.
[11:02] <jatt> will install it and test, thanks!
[11:02] <goblyn> Kzar_fr: there aren't any alternatives that are better?
[11:02] <jasost> hello, who do you talk to to get support from?
[11:03] <nearfar> removing kdelibs-data
[11:03] <rast4_> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:03] <rast4_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:03] <rast4_> is only available from another source
[11:03] <rast4_> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[11:03] <rast4_> whast's that mean ? :(
[11:03] <DarkElf109> goblyn: There's an alternative that;s better for moral reasons, but not for use reasons...
[11:03] <lukem> hey guys, my Remote desktop does not work
[11:03] <Kzar_fr> !google Wine repository for Ubuntu
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google Wine repository for Ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <nearfar> DarkElf109: removing kdelibs-data now :)
[11:03] <lukem> anything I need to do?
[11:03] <DarkElf109> !wine
[11:03] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:03] <goblyn> KarkElf109: Explain
[11:03] <goblyn> DarkElf109: Explain
[11:03] <sethk> lukem, yes, fix it.  :)
[11:04] <DarkElf109> goblyn: http://process-of-elimination.net/wiki/GNU_Gnash_Screenshots_and_Review
[11:04] <lukem> sethk: heh, I know, I have no idea why it is not wokring
[11:04] <jeeaar> goblyn: he means that macromedia isnt open source, and other might be
[11:04] <DarkElf109> lukem: Is System>Preferences>Remote Desktop set up right?
[11:04] <lukem> I just always get connection refused
[11:04] <florian> what's worng with my graphical UI? When I log in only a console appears, nothing like ALT+TAB works, i can only start one app...
[11:05] <goblyn> DarkElf109: hmmmm, well... i've been having trouble with the proprietary Macromedia plugin... why not
[11:05] <lukem> DarkElf109: I have ticked Allow other user to view desktop and allow them to control and required a password
[11:05] <DarkElf109> lukem: Do you have firestarter or some other firewall set up?
[11:05] <lukem> I have not set up a firewall (dapper does come with one by default does it?)
[11:05] <gorski> does audio streaming occupy space on hard disk?
[11:06] <goblyn> how do i find out if i have a firewall installed, and if i do, how do i turn it off?
[11:06] <lukem> I have also configured my router to let 5900 through
[11:06] <_JECKEL_> quick..any telnet like thing in ubuntu I can use to access MUDs?
[11:06] <DarkElf109> lukem: not sure...On a command line, run 'sudo iptables -L', and see if any rules are present
[11:06] <Madpilot> _JECKEL_, well, there's telnet...
[11:06] <bbrazil> goblyn: iptables -xvnL
[11:06] <jeeaar> rofl
[11:07] <lukem> DarkElf109: no rules
[11:07] <lukem>  vncviewer localhost:0 doesn't even connect
[11:07] <_JECKEL_> thought that was windows only lol
[11:07] <goblyn> bbrazil: what does this tell me?
[11:07] <DarkElf109> gorski: Probably not. Unless you have an absolutely enormous buffer size set
[11:07] <bbrazil> goblyn: your current firewall rules
[11:07] <goblyn> bbrazil: is there a way to just turn a firewall off completely?
[11:07] <gorski> ok, tnx
[11:07] <DarkElf109> lukem: try localhost:1
[11:08] <DarkElf109> gorski: iptables -F
[11:08] <DarkElf109> Grr
[11:08] <jeeaar> bbrazil: did you ip scan him?
[11:08] <DarkElf109> That was to goblyn
[11:08] <bbrazil> goblyn: yes, but you don't want to go there. If that command doesn't have any rules you don't have a firewall
[11:08] <lukem> ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::SystemException: read: Connection reset by peer (104)
[11:08] <DarkElf109> goblyn: iptables -F verifies it
[11:08] <lukem> different error
[11:08] <DarkElf109> Try localhost:2
[11:08] <bbrazil> DarkElf109: don't tell peopl to run iptables -F, it's dangerous
[11:09] <gorski> ?
[11:09] <Flannel> _JECKEL_: you can also use the mother of all mud clients: tintin.  other popular (and more modern) ones include tinyfugue, and... um, well, a few others.  search for "mud" in synaptic
[11:09] <goblyn> Darkelf109: what do you mean "verifies it"?
[11:09] <DarkElf109> bbrazil: He asked how toturn the firewall off
[11:09] <rast4_> ok I can't get wine downloaded
[11:09] <rast4_> wtf
[11:09] <lukem> DarkElf109: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused same as :0
[11:09] <bbrazil> DarkElf109: yes, not how to possibly block all network access
[11:09] <DarkElf109> goblyn: It flushes the firewall rules altogether
[11:09] <_JECKEL_> well i'm just using it to check something out
[11:09] <DarkElf109> bbrazil: How? It doesn't flush the nat rules
[11:10] <bbrazil> DarkElf109: default policy
[11:10] <DarkElf109> lukem: Well, then, it's probably running on 1
[11:10] <jeeaar> uh oh.. nerd legistics
[11:10] <bbrazil> DarkElf109: most firewall scripts set it to REJECT
[11:10] <bbrazil> or DROP
[11:10] <DarkElf109> bbrazil: Ah. Good point.
[11:10] <lukem> DarkElf109: yeah ok, thats my bad, but why would it be killing the connection straight away
[11:10] <DarkElf109> lukem: No idea! =)
[11:10] <lukem> damit :)
[11:10] <goblyn> DarkElf109: ok... back to the question about Gnash... how do i install it?
[11:11] <DarkElf109> lukem: On the Remote Desktop Preferences, what command does it show in blue?
[11:11] <DarkElf109> goblyn: No clue. Never used it
[11:11] <goblyn> DarkElf109: ... great advice
[11:12] <DarkElf109> goblyn: Hey, at least I didn't give you advice on something I know absolutely nothing about =P
[11:12] <minerale> I made the mistake of installing the kubuntu package over ubuntu, after much wrangling I was able to remvoe it, but the kubuntu logo shows up each time I start / shut my computer.... anyone know how I can remove it ?
[11:12] <goblyn> DarkElf109: lol, fair enough
[11:12] <_JECKEL_> ok guys..thanks for the help
[11:12] <goblyn> DarkElf109: well, let me get your opinion on something else, ever used Epiphany?
[11:12] <DarkElf109> minerale: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[11:13] <DarkElf109> goblyn: I've used all those amaroK wannabes for GNOME...amaroK still wins =)
[11:13] <DarkElf109> Wait...Epiphany's mail, isn't it...
[11:13] <goblyn> DarkElf109: good browser?
[11:13] <jeeaar> what is amaroK?
[11:13] <goblyn> no, it's browser
[11:13] <DarkElf109> Wow...First I was thinking of Banshee, then Evolution =P
[11:14] <gorski> can thunderbird be in tray?
[11:14] <Madpilot> DarkElf109, Evolution is the mail app you're probably thinking of
[11:14] <DarkElf109> Yeah
[11:14] <jeeaar> DarkElf109: sorry, i should stop using you as my personal google :S
[11:14] <DarkElf109> goblyn: Nope, never used it...I <3 Firefox
[11:14] <goblyn> DarkElf109: lol, ooookay, i'll take your comment as a whopping "no"
[11:14] <DarkElf109> goblyn: I know there's an extension for it that puts it in the tray in Windows...not sure about in Linux
[11:14] <goblyn> DarkElf109: i'm die hard Firefox myself... but i was just figured i'd try something else in Linux to see if it's any better
[11:14] <DarkElf109> Bah. That was to gorski =(
[11:14] <ardchoille> minerale: Maybe this will be of some help: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php
[11:15] <gorski> ok
[11:15] <DarkElf109> goblyn: Only time I'd recommend something other than Fx is, MAYBE, Konqueror...MAYBE
[11:15] <DarkElf109> If ofnly or the integration
[11:16] <lukem> DarkElf109: it shows vncviewer luke:0
[11:16] <goblyn> DarkElf109: i am not the biggest Konqueror fan, i've tried it and it's too... simplistic
[11:16] <DarkElf109> Or Opera...if you're into that all-in-one sort of thing
[11:16] <lukem> DarkElf109: so that doesn't help
[11:16] <DarkElf109> lukem: Hrm...should be running on port 5900 then...
[11:16] <rast4_> I'm a little confused as to how to "add a repository"
[11:17] <Flannel> !tell rast4_ about repositories
[11:17] <rast4_> like I'm having a prob getting Wine
[11:17] <Flannel> rast4_: second link ubotu sent you
[11:17] <lukem> yeah I have configure that port on my router
[11:17] <DarkElf109> lukem: Could you run netstat -a, and look for 5900 or 5901?
[11:17] <rast4_> ty
[11:17] <lukem> ok
[11:18] <goblyn> DarkElf109: omfg... i can't install Macromedia Flash Player because i'm using x8664
[11:18] <goblyn> x86_64
[11:18] <jeeaar> goblyn: ouch
[11:18] <lukem> 5900 is not there thought this is: tcp        0      0 *:5901                  *:*                     LISTEN
[11:18] <DarkElf109> goblyn: Shoulda mentioned that earlier
[11:19] <DarkElf109> Yeah...Can't run Flash, most codecs, some other things...
[11:19] <goblyn> DarkElf109: didn't realize that would be a problem till i tried to install it :-
[11:19] <goblyn> DarkElf109: ok... is there really any point in having the 64 bit version?
[11:19] <jeeaar> goblyn: you get to try ubuntu =D
[11:19] <DarkElf109> goblyn: I can't honestly say, I don't know. I don't personally believe so. 32 bit is much easier, and you still get good performance
[11:20] <DarkElf109> goblyn: I just found this on google, you could try it: http://marius.scurtescu.com/?p=139
[11:20] <goblyn> can anyone tell me if there is a good reason to use the 64 bit version of Ubuntu?
[11:21] <DarkElf109> Anyone CAN tell you...they just might not be right
[11:21] <Jay_> has anyone seen any bug reports on the new kernel and WiFi?
[11:21] <lukem> any more ideas DarkElf109?
[11:21] <jeeaar> goblyn: if you were good enough, you could help develop it
[11:21] <DarkElf109> Jay_: Check http://www.launchpad.net
[11:21] <amarillion> goblyn: I don't know, but I'm using 32 bit on my amd64
[11:21] <amarillion> Just to avoid the headache
[11:21] <goblyn> yeah... okay... great...
[11:22] <DarkElf109> lukem: Sorry, didn't see the response. So, it looks like you're running something on :1...may or may not be a VNC server, but something is listening there...
[11:22] <goblyn> well... i'll be back in about 20 minutes after i completely re-format my hard drive and install the 32 bit version and re-configure everything
[11:22] <jeeaar> rofl
[11:22] <Jay_> thanks Dark
[11:22] <amarillion> I don't think there is a real good reason for using the 64 bit version
[11:22] <DarkElf109> goblyn: http://marius.scurtescu.com/?p=139
[11:22] <DarkElf109> Check that out
[11:22] <jeeaar> goblyn: sucks man, c ya in a while :P
[11:23] <lukem> damit
[11:23] <DarkElf109> lukem: Could you run 'ps -A | grep vnc'?
[11:23] <lukem> it should just work out of the box right?
[11:23] <goblyn> DarkElf109: Bah, not gonna worry about it, this thing is a beast, it'll take me about 15 minutes to install the 32 bit version of Ubuntu
[11:23] <DarkElf109> lukem: And then 'ps -A | grep vino'
[11:23] <DarkElf109> goblyn: Well, then, have fun
[11:23] <lukem> DarkElf109: vnc is not there
[11:23] <DarkElf109> lukem: That's good. I'm just making sure a second VNC server isn't running
[11:24] <lukem> DarkElf109: vino is not there
[11:24] <DarkElf109> lukem: That's bad. Means vino isn't running
[11:24] <lukem> yeah and thats the dapper vnc server right?
[11:24] <babis85> guys, when i press backspace the xserver terminaes
[11:24] <lukem> hmm
[11:24] <jeeaar> hmm
[11:24] <amarillion> Yes, 64bit ubuntu might be slightly more optimized for your system, but that really doesn't matter if some of the hardware doesn't work
[11:24] <jeeaar> who was asking about MUDS earlier?
[11:24] <DarkElf109> lukem: Hrm...Ok, this is gonna restart X, so close out of everything before you do this: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:24] <bnD> anyone used a firefox plugin to enable mms:// wmv streaming in linux?
[11:25] <babis85> what could i do?
[11:25] <amarillion> Given the choice between some hardware very fast or all hardware reasonably fast...
[11:25] <DarkElf109> babis85: Don't hit the backspace key?
[11:25] <babis85> DarkElf109: it's not so easy
[11:25] <babis85> DarkElf109: i do it mechanically
[11:25] <lukem> DarkElf109: ok i'll be back :)
[11:26] <babis85> actually i found a solution but it is not permanentle
[11:26] <DarkElf109> babis85: Is this all the time, or just since the last restart?
[11:26] <babis85> i had installed compiz/xgl
[11:26] <babis85> occured an error
[11:26] <babis85> and then this problem emerged
[11:27] <DarkElf109> !compiz
[11:27] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:27] <babis85> now have completely uninstall compiz and xgl
[11:27] <DarkElf109> Ah
[11:27] <babis85> so, i tried that command :xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace", which makes the things
[11:27] <ardchoille> I downloaded the desktop ISO. Id like to mount it, copy all files to a tmp dir, and add a couple GTK themes. Can I just create a new ISO from that, burn it as an image and have it work?
[11:28] <babis85> and after that i run:  sudo xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace" /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.gr
[11:28] <babis85> because i am from greece
[11:28] <babis85> and now i have no greek at all
[11:28] <DarkElf109> Well
[11:29] <Kittiah> Anyone know a working site that hosts EasyUbuntu, or another application that will add a large selection of repositories to my package manager?
[11:29] <babis85> the question finally is: at the next restart would be able to write in greek?
[11:29] <DarkElf109> babis85: First, you'll have to reinstall the greek keymap...I think you overwrote it
[11:29] <babis85> and how could i restore the default settings for that file?
[11:29] <rast4_> NICE! I got the repository aspect nailed
[11:29] <DarkElf109> babis85: Secondly, really easy way to do this, modify ~/.Xmodmap
[11:29] <rast4_> thanks again fellas
[11:29] <Flannel> rast4_: good to hear
[11:29] <DarkElf109> rast4_: Np =)
[11:29] <ubuntu> how do i get the w32 codecs?
[11:30] <DarkElf109> !automatix > ubuntu
[11:30] <rast4_> this is turning out to kick more and more boo-tay by the minute
[11:30] <Jivemonkey> i installed ubuntu on parallels and when i boot now i get: kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[11:30] <babis85> there is no such file
[11:30] <Flannel> !tell ubuntu about w32codecs
[11:30] <ubuntu> Darkelf109: hiss!
[11:30] <Flannel> DarkElf109: don't suggest automatix please
[11:30] <nearfar> back to GNOME! liberation from Komplexity! Yay!
[11:30] <jeeaar> ubuntu: firstly, my operating system shouldnt want to be another one, and secondly.. PLF
[11:30] <rast4_> I concur, Automatix = the devil!
[11:30] <rast4_> :P
[11:30] <rast4_> made me do 4 reinstallations hehe
[11:31] <ubuntu> jeeaar: PLF?
[11:31] <babis85> and how could have the xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace" running automatically?
[11:31] <Flannel> Penguin Liberation Front, I believe.
[11:31] <jeeaar> yes
[11:31] <lukem> DarkElf109: VINO-SERVER was running then it stops
[11:31] <jeeaar> dont they have w32 repo's?
[11:31] <gerhard> morning
[11:31] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[11:31] <ivorybishop> morning
[11:31] <raddy> does anybody using gdesklets?
[11:31] <ubuntu> jeeaar: well, sorry, all i really want is just to watch video's andlisten to mp3's, thats about it
[11:31] <Flannel> ubuntu: see the link ubotu sent you.
[11:31] <gerhard> I have linux 606 x64 and i want to install wine
[11:32] <Flannel> ubuntu: it covers all that ;)
[11:32] <gerhard> is that possible with linux32?
[11:32] <lukem> DarkElf109: did a vncviewer luke:0 to try and connect got this ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::EndOfStream and vino-server is no longer running
[11:32] <ubuntu> flannel using IRSSI
[11:32] <jeeaar> ubuntu: yeah, ots not quite as simple as windows is. you'll need to get a repository for w32 codecs
[11:32] <gerhard> !linux32
[11:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:32] <Flannel> ubuntu: alt-2 or whatever, then copy/paste the first link.
[11:32] <raddy> does gdesklets work in ubuntu?
[11:32] <Flannel> rast4_: yes
[11:32] <Flannel> er, raddy yes.
[11:33] <ubuntu> jeeaar: well, i'll be back on in a second, send it back to me then
[11:33] <babis85> DarkElf109: should i run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xmodmap" to fix the problem?
[11:33] <raddy> Flannel : does lmsensor work in gwget?
[11:33] <ivorybishop> guys, i am in a real pickle, i installed dapper on my laptop, used the same username/pw i use on all my home workstations, and it now tells me the username and password are incorrect, is there anyway to boot from the live cd and fix this? or is there a way to login as sudo/root?
[11:33] <raddy> Flannel : sorry gdeskles
[11:33] <Flannel> ubuntu: go to the help: help.ubuntu.com and search for 'RestrictedFormats'
[11:33] <DarkElf109> lukem: That is REALLY odd...I'm not sure why it could be doing that
[11:33] <josh> quick quetion, yesterday i was having a problems with video card driver (i have an ati in it right now but switched to a nvidia) a guy gave me a link for getting the nvidia driver. my question is, can i leave the ati card and drivers in the comp, download and set the nvidia drivers and then at my leisure change the card out with smooth transition? or is my gdm going to be messed up either way?
[11:33] <Flannel> raddy: Believe so.   Haven't done so myself though
[11:33] <lukem> DarkElf109: dam, thanks anyway so far
[11:33] <DarkElf109> !restricted > ubuntu
[11:34] <lukem> i'll do some more searcging
[11:34] <raddy> please somebody see this url http://gdesklets.org//?mod=forum/post&pid=16
[11:34] <DarkElf109> lukem: My suggestion, try the forum. Lots of smart people there
[11:34] <gerhard> I have linux 606 x64 and i want to install wine
[11:34] <gerhard> is that possible with linux32?
[11:34] <raddy> i am experiencing the same problem
[11:34] <raddy> does any know any solutions?
[11:35] <Flannel> ivorybishop: at the grub menu, boot into recovery mode, and you can clear/set a new password
[11:35] <ivorybishop> flannel: thanks man! afk to fix it
[11:35] <DarkElf109> babis85: sudo apt-get reinstall xserver-xorg would probably reinstall the keymap
[11:36] <lukem> DarkElf109: thanks
[11:36] <Flannel> ivorybishop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword  Should be able to use the first method, as you haven't set a root password.  But, it walks you through setting the new one, etc
[11:36] <jeeaar> hmm
[11:36] <jeeaar> gnight guys
[11:36] <babis85> DarkElf109: E: Invalid operation reinstall
[11:37] <jeeaar> thanks for the help Dark
[11:38] <Talisker[w] > !MTA
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about MTA - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <Talisker[w] > !sendmail
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sendmail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <DarkElf109> !postfix
[11:38] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix or here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[11:38] <DarkElf109> =)
[11:38] <mission> hi
[11:38] <DarkElf109> babis85: Hrm...do you have aptitude installed?
[11:38] <babis85> ofcource
[11:38] <DarkElf109> The sudo aptitude reinstall xserver-xorg
[11:39] <DarkElf109> I know that aptitude has reinstall...If it responds with an error, I'll be flabbergasted
[11:39] <DarkElf109> Then*
[11:39] <ivorybishop> lol, that grub menu goes by quick!
[11:39] <ivorybishop> you gotta be on the ball to catch it
[11:40] <ardchoille> ivorybishop: you can change the timeout on that
[11:40] <ag0ny> hi
[11:40] <ivorybishop> sweet, yeah i just found the doc on that
[11:40] <Flannel> there's no reason to, unless you want to wait more seconds each bootup ;)  just have to be prepared to hit escape
[11:40] <yey> I know why colorgcc doesn't work with vim's
[11:40] <ivorybishop> hehe
[11:40] <Talisker[w] > Where do I define my smtp and pop3 servers?
[11:40] <Flannel> just like POST screens
[11:40] <Talisker[w] > Is it possible to define them per user?
[11:41] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : For which client?
[11:41] <Talisker[w] > mutt
[11:41] <ivorybishop> ok, 1000 points to Flannel, thanks for the tip on that
[11:41] <DarkElf109> Gonna be in .muttrc then
[11:41] <babis85> DarkElf109: just seen the man page and it doesn't have reinstall
[11:41] <Talisker[w] > ~/.muttrc?
[11:41] <DarkElf109> Yup
[11:41] <JamieBE> Hi everyone
[11:41] <Flannel> ivorybishop: you got the link to the stepwise instructions, right? or, maybe you're already done by now ;)
[11:42] <Talisker[w] > no such file
[11:42] <ivorybishop> i am done...lol
[11:42] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : http://www.hserus.net/wiki/index.php/Muttrc
[11:42] <ivorybishop> thanks again man
[11:42] <JamieBE> Its been a while since I last screwed up big time and actually needed help
[11:42] <yey> I know why colorgcc doesn't work with vim's ":make" command. It redirects it appending at the end "2>&1| tee". And it seems that it loses color with that. Could you help me? I want it to not lose the color. How should I change this redirection?
[11:42] <JamieBE> I tried to get this thing called GXL to work
[11:42] <ivorybishop> its great that you volunteers are here, keep up the good work and keep fighting the good fight
[11:42] <rixxon> there is a pretty annoying "bug" in rhythmbox
[11:42] <Flannel> JamieBE: you mean XGL?
[11:42] <JamieBE> It involved modifying some xorg and xserver stuff
[11:43] <JamieBE> Yea Flannel, thats the one
[11:43] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-to-mutt.xml
[11:43] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : You have to get your mail from a pop server with fetchmail
[11:43] <JamieBE> Not whenever I boot I get an Xserver error and have to go through the whole dpkg -reconfigure xserver blah blah blah
[11:43] <Flannel> JamieBE: #ubuntu-xgl is the correct spot for XGL related support.  They should (should, op word) be pretty adept at dealing with hosed XGL stuff ;)
[11:43] <JamieBE> I'll give them a try flannel
[11:44] <goblyn> DarkElf109: took less time than i thought it would :-D
[11:44] <yey> 	error file.  See also |:make_makeprg|.  See |option-backslash| about
[11:44] <yey> sorry
[11:44] <DarkElf109> goblyn: Dang. That was fast
[11:44] <Snow_Shelter> hello
[11:44] <goblyn> DarkElf109: lol, i told you, my PC is a beast
[11:44] <DarkElf109> Hrm...Anyone know if it's possible to read All Quiet on the Western Front in less than 8 hours?
[11:45] <JamieBE> Flannel: dead room.
[11:45] <ag0ny> anyone know of a deb for the latest RT2570 wlan-driver?
[11:45] <Madpilot> DarkElf109, that sounds like an #ubuntu-offtopic question. It's thataway --->
[11:45] <Snow_Shelter> I know this isn't the right place to ask, but I'm about to shoot google's church bells because all it gives me is BS when I try to search for a free hosting service for .ico images... does anyone know of a free service for hosting .ico images?
[11:45] <JamieBE> Is there a way that I can just forget all the XGL stuff and revert back to a working X for my Nvidia card?
[11:45] <Madpilot> DarkElf109, and yes, I could probably read it in les than 8hrs, but I read stupidly fast ;)
[11:45] <goblyn> DarkElf109: so, are you like a developer or have you just been using this for a really long time?
[11:45] <DarkElf109> Madpilot: I'll read it by the light of my monitor on my Ubuntu comp, ok?
[11:45] <JamieBE> I ahve it running at the moment but when I go into stuff the like penguin racer, it is IMPOSSIBLY slow and laggy
[11:46] <DarkElf109> =P
[11:46] <Snow_Shelter> Jamie; apt-get uninstall xgl?
[11:46] <Madpilot> DarkElf109, sounds on-topic enough for me ;)
[11:46] <DarkElf109> goblyn: I'd develop if I were motivated enough to actually learn C++...I've been using various Linuxes for the past couple years
[11:46] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE:  apt-get uninstall xgl?
[11:46] <goblyn> DarkElf109: ah
[11:47] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE: what kind of NVidia card is it?
[11:47] <DarkElf109> goblyn: Linux User #385258, if you want to look me up =P
[11:47] <goblyn> anybody know how i can contribute to Ubuntu (not money unfortunately, i'm fairly poor :-()
[11:47] <JamieBE> Ti4200 128MB I think
[11:47] <DarkElf109> !contribute
[11:47] <ubotu> To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[11:47] <Snow_Shelter> goblyn: write code
[11:47] <DarkElf109> Heh. I love this bot...I had *no idea* that that command existed...
[11:47] <Snow_Shelter> !bite
[11:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:47] <goblyn> Snow_Shelter: lol, any other idea's?
[11:48] <Snow_Shelter> !favicon
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about favicon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <goblyn> !contribute
[11:48] <ubotu> To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[11:48] <Madpilot> goblyn, help write documentation, or... there's lots of things you can help with, even if you don't code
[11:48] <Snow_Shelter> goblyn: uhh, help other users? like me!
[11:48] <rast4_> is there any way to get tool tips off? Like when I go to use the system menu, it says "Browse and run installed programs"
[11:48] <DarkElf109> You could even just do support in here or on the forums
[11:48] <rast4_> I'd like to chuck that
[11:48] <Snow_Shelter> goblyn: you can tell me a free place on the net where I can upload my @#%%ing favicon.
[11:48] <DarkElf109> Snow_Shelter: Your server?
[11:48] <Flannel> Snow_Shelter: Thats an #ubuntu-offtopic question
[11:48] <goblyn> heh, well, i think i'll have to hang out for quite a while to get to the point of helping as much as you guys
[11:49] <DarkElf109> Flannel: He's uploading it from ubuntu =)
[11:49] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: unfortunately I *don't* have one
[11:49] <Snow_Shelter> Flannel: dulely noted
[11:49] <DarkElf109> Snow_Shelter: Then, why do you need a favicon?
[11:49] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: for teh blog!
[11:49] <DarkElf109> Ah
[11:49] <JamieBE> I think my xserver is working OK, It's just very laggy for some reason, it used to be like this on the LiveCD, any ideas, anyone? Help would be greatly appreciated.
[11:50] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE: I already told you my idea... apt-get uninstall xgl
[11:50] <goblyn> JamieBE: do you know if it's recognizing your video card?
[11:50] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE: I'd be much happier to help if you listened to me the first time I told you
[11:50] <goblyn> Snow_Shelter: ... lighten up a little
[11:50] <JamieBE> Snow_Shelter: apt-get uninstall xgl >> E: Invalid operation
[11:51] <Snow_Shelter> goblyn: I can't, google isn't helping me
[11:51] <t-thing> A calendar application which doesn't suck like evolution? Other than sunbird?
[11:51] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE: sudo synaptic, search, xgl, uninstall
[11:51] <goblyn> JamieBE: add sudo to before it
[11:51] <goblyn> JamieBE: type sudo apt-get uninstall xgl
[11:51] <DarkElf109> t-thing: Google Calendar, Yahoo! Calendar
[11:51] <threat2> ey
[11:51] <DarkElf109> t-thing: Only decent ones I've found =/
[11:51] <JamieBE> sTILL AN INVALID OP.
[11:52] <goblyn> DarkElf109: wait... Google finally came out with their calendar?
[11:52] <chez> whois chez
[11:52] <chez> \whois chez
[11:52] <JamieBE> I'll remove XGL through Synaptic and see what that does.
[11:52] <t-thing> DarkElf109: Yeah, but another requirement is that its an application. It needs to be keyboard friendly.
[11:52] <goblyn> JamieBE: well do you know if it's recognizing your video card, or just loading a generic driver?
[11:52] <DarkElf109> rast4_: I'm still trying tom figure out how to disable tooltips for ya
[11:52] <JamieBE> #ubuntu-xgl wasn't any help i'm 'fraid. it was dead room.
[11:52] <rast4_> ok ty
[11:52] <DarkElf109> goblyn: Yeah. It's been out for a while...not used it, but it's out
[11:52] <ag0ny> anyone has WUSB54G V4 running with Ubuntu Dapper Drake and WPA encryption?
[11:52] <JamieBE> goblyn, I went through the Xserver config and it picked up the name of the card and stuff just fune
[11:53] <JamieBE> I am actually using xserver now
[11:53] <Flannel> JamieBE: might have to check back during the day then.
[11:53] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE: reinstall since what we're telling you isn't working. That's the breaks for trying out software that requires devotion and the hardware to support it.
[11:53] <goblyn> JamieBE: hmmm, thats very odd, perhaps it's your refresh rate, though i doubt that would make it look choppy, just destroy your eyes
[11:53] <jungsonn> hello
[11:53] <JamieBE> But when i restart, x fails to load, and then the terminal gives me some lip about not being able to load. and then I have to redo the config x thing all over again
[11:53] <Madpilot> chez, did you just ping the whole channel?
[11:53] <nixternal> wth
[11:53] <nixternal> i think so Madpilot
[11:53] <jungsonn> does anyone know where i can ask a question about upgradin to the new ubuntu?
[11:54] <DarkElf109> !ask
[11:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:54] <nixternal> mmm lag
[11:54] <Madpilot> imbrandon, well, that sorts it
[11:54] <imbrandon> ;)
[11:54] <nixternal> hehe
[11:54] <jungsonn> i have hoary but i can't figure out how i can upgrade to the new ubuntu.
[11:54] <goblyn> DarkElf109: you know anything about this?
[11:55] <Madpilot> jungsonn, from Hoary, you should upgrade to Breezy, then Dapper
[11:55] <JamieBE> goblyn, it's weird, I can play videos and move windows around fine, it's just those games that used to run fine before, and dont now.
[11:55] <DarkElf109> What's the problem? I tend to filter out stuff that doesn't start with "Darkelf109:" or some variation =P
[11:55] <JamieBE> Is there a way of configuring refresh rate in x?
[11:55] <florian> hi, when I log in to Gnome I only get a terminal. Nothing else. I can only start one app. What's wrong?
[11:55] <jungsonn> what is the best way? do i need to download it again? or can i do it with sudo?
[11:56] <Madpilot> jungsonn, you can upgrade in place
[11:56] <DarkElf109> JamieBE: In /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:56] <jungsonn> in place?
[11:56] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell jungsonn about upgrade
[11:56] <DarkElf109> JamieBE: Well, first things first...BACK UP YOUR XORG.CONF!
[11:56] <chez> exit
[11:56] <Madpilot> jungsonn, check the PM you just got from the bot
[11:56] <chez> ahhh, so are you not supposed to ping the whole channel
[11:56] <jungsonn> thank u
[11:57] <Madpilot> chez, no... the kick might have been a clue, huh?
[11:57] <jungsonn> ok i go looking, thank you for your time.
[11:57] <JamieBE> Darkelf109: I had to modify xorg.conf as part of the XGL installation.
[11:57] <chez> meh
[11:57] <Shinzetsu> is it possible to ping an irc channel? Oo
[11:57] <chez> I won't do it again
[11:57] <DarkElf109> JamieBE: Did you make a backup?
[11:58] <Snow_Shelter> what's wrong with pinging the whole channel, obviously I haven't read the rules in their entirety...
[11:58] <JamieBE> DarkElf109: If I was that smart to make a backup in the first place, I wouldnt be here :p
[11:58] <Madpilot> Snow_Shelter, it's an irritant to 800 people, and not at all needed...
[11:58] <Flannel> Snow_Shelter: you bother a lot of people.  its essentially spamming
[11:58] <KrisWood> Hello, I just upgraded to dapper yesterday and now my proftpd is broken. I've verified that it can run from the command line but it won't run with inetd. Has anyone got proftpd working with dapper? If so, what are your inetd settings for it?
[11:58] <DarkElf109> JamieBE: Heh. Alright. I doubt it's a framerate problem, but, lets see something
[11:58] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE: if I was smart enough to back up all the files on my 5 month old iPod which just died, I wouldn't have lost over 12GB of data... life's the breaks
[11:58] <DarkElf109> JamieBE: Can you run glxgears, and give me a framerate?
[11:59] <chez> anyhow I'm sorry I waqs just working my way through the command list
[11:59] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: glxgears wont give you a frame rate unless you feed it an option to do so...
[11:59] <Zdra> hello, I administrate ~70 computers running ubuntu dapper here and I have a question for upgrades: If there is a new kernel version the old one isn't removed. For security reasons I don't want to allow users to boot an old kenrel. Is there a way to automatically remove old kernel when there is an upgrade of kernel-image ?
[11:59] <DarkElf109> Snow_Shelter: Echoes it to console ever 5 seconds
[11:59] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE: what model NVidia card do you have? (2nd time I've asked)
[11:59] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: doesn't on my AMD64
[11:59] <JamieBE> darkelf109: Cool, i see some gears going very slowly, dont see a framerate on there though
[12:00] <PyroManiak> how do I set the permission so I can see my windows partition? chmod -x /media/hda1?
[12:00] <JamieBE> I think it is a geforce ti4200 snow_shelter
[12:00] <DarkElf109> JamieBE: Should echo to the console every 5 seconds...
[12:00] <DarkElf109> Always has for me
[12:00] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE: grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:00] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: doesn't anymore
[12:00] <DarkElf109> Snow_Shelter: Heh. I just ran it, and it did =)
[12:00] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE: I have a 7900GTX and I get about 3200FPS
[12:00] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: Kernel version, X version, and glxgears version please
[12:01] <JamieBE> DarkElf109 : nope, just a picture of the gears moving VERY choppy
[12:01] <Seveas> Zdra, unfortunately not -- but you can work around it by letting grub only display the latest kernel and forbiding editing of the grub menu during boot
[12:01] <PyroManiak> Why doesn't my windows partition show up in ubuntu?
[12:01] <neutrinomass> Zdra: None that I know of, but you may be able to remove them all in one go using clusterssh
[12:01] <Madpilot> PyroManiak, because Windows is evil
[12:02] <KrisWood> does anyone here use proftpd at all?
[12:02] <neutrinomass> PyroManiak: Because Microsoft pretends only Windows exist and will only "see" windows partitions
[12:02] <JamieBE> Hey hey hey
[12:02] <DarkElf109> Snow_Shelter: 2.6.15-26-686, Xorg 7.0.0-0ubuntu45, and I don't even know how to find the glxgears version...
[12:02] <Seveas> neutrinomass, read his question please...
[12:02] <Seveas> !tell PyroManiak about windowsdrives
[12:02] <JamieBE> Nah, it ran very smoothly for a second, and then choppy again
[12:02] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE: the TI4200 isn't the newest card, so don't expect a fantastic FPS in tux racer anyway, I think it's an entirely different problem, you video card is wicked old
[12:02] <neutrinomass> Seveas: Wow, sorry, read that backwards
[12:03] <KrisWood> anyone at all?
[12:03] <JamieBE> Snow_Shelter: Everything was running very smoothly before
[12:03] <Seveas> neutrinomass, 
[12:03] <KrisWood> please?
[12:03] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: well I can't tell you what I'm running, cause I'm in Hawaii and my PC is in Ottawa Canada... and the constant thunderstorms knocked out our gw so I can't tell you what I'm running... :P
[12:03] <KrisWood> google isn't being particularly forthcoming at the moment, so help would be greatly appreciated
[12:03] <Zdra> Seveas: neutrinomass: ok thanks, I'll try to configure menu.lst to only display last kernel. grub is already protected by password.
[12:03] <JamieBE> Snow_Shelter: I know what my card is capable of, and I know it can do more than this.
[12:03] <KrisWood> I don't like pleading, but I'll do it
[12:03] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE: hmmm, ok... my prognosis, get a new video card
[12:03] <JamieBE> lmao
[12:03] <DarkElf109> 1) Darn you for being in Hawaii while I'm stuck in 106-degree Arizona. 2) Sorry for your connection loss =P
[12:04] <Snow_Shelter> KrisWood: what's your problem?
[12:04] <JamieBE> I may as well scap the OS at that price Snow_Shelter.
[12:04] <Seveas> Zdra, it's configured in one of the commented lines in menu.lst
[12:04] <KrisWood> I upgraded to dapper and now proftpd won't work with inetd
[12:04] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: I'll switch with you! I hate being dragged to Hawaii for 5 weeks...
[12:04] <Zdra> neutrinomass: didn't know clusterssh, I'll try it. I currently use a home-made script to run commands on all machines at once
[12:04] <KrisWood> the folks in #proftpd helped me verify that nothing is wrong with my proftpd, it's inetd that's having the problem
[12:04] <Seveas> Zdra, clusterss is fugly, try keyboardcast 
[12:04] <DarkElf109> Snow_Shelter: So...Is it a vacation? Or work?
[12:04] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE: If you feel that way, go to Windows
[12:04] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: unwanted vacation
[12:05] <DarkElf109> Snow_Shelter: I haven't left my town for over 4 years...
[12:05] <KrisWood> so I need to find someone who has it working and find out what the right inetd configuration is for it now
[12:05] <neutrinomass> Zdra: Ahh, it's a small little program that sort of broadcasts commands to several computers - I've never used it so I can't comment on it. Better try what Seveas suggests ...
[12:05] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: I haven't had a summer for 4 years straight
[12:05] <JamieBE> Snow_Shelter: I appreciated your effort here, but it's not very constructive now
[12:05] <Seveas> Snow_Shelter, offtopic talk elswhere please
[12:05] <DarkElf109> JamieBE: Your best bet would be to try the forums now
[12:05] <Snow_Shelter> Seveas: yeah, I'm on my way out of here
[12:06] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: YGPM
[12:06] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: eh, just reply when you have time, I'll get to it in the morning, too late, agitated... sleep required
[12:06] <JamieBE> DARKELF109 I am in the process of retrieving framerates
[12:07] <KrisWood> I guess no one is using proftpd on dapper with inetd
[12:07] <Seveas> KrisWood, stop repeating kthbye
[12:07] <cowbud> isn't there a way to download older packages from a distro after ones have been upgraded? like a snapshot of a day how the archive was before?
[12:07] <JamieBE> darkelf 109: 1026 frames in 5.2 seconds = 195.775 FPS
[12:08] <Seveas> cowbud, not easily -- why would you want that?
[12:08] <DarkElf109> JamieBE: Hrm...Could even be correct...
[12:08] <cowbud> Seveas: if you are running unstable and something broke ;)
[12:08] <Seveas> cowbud, then you file a bug 
[12:08] <cowbud> I sware there was a way in debian hrmm...
[12:08] <cowbud> I mean it has nothing to do with the distro just with how they setup their packages..
[12:08] <cowbud> Seveas: done...
[12:08] <Dunpeal> re
[12:08] <cowbud> but two days without email is kinda a bitch ;)
[12:08] <Seveas> hehe
[12:08] <JamieBE> Darkelf109: It SAYS that, but it is choppy as hell
[12:09] <cowbud> but I suppose that is the price :)
[12:09] <DarkElf109> JamieBE: Like I said, post to the forum. Give as much detail as you can (xorg.conf, that framerate, full story, etc.), and hopefuly, someone that knowsmore than I will stumble upon it...
[12:09] <Seveas> you could pin the package to the older version, but the deb of an older version is removed quite soon after the newer one is approved
[12:09] <DarkElf109> And that's a whole lotta people, so you have a good chance =)
[12:09] <JamieBE> OK Darkelf109, thanks for your help
[12:09] <babis85> how could i have xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace" run at startup?
[12:09] <Seveas> babis85, put it in your ~/.gnomerc
[12:09] <DarkElf109> babis85: Not sure, but you can put it in your .Xsession
[12:09] <DarkElf109> Or that,,,
[12:10] <babis85> finally, in which one ?
[12:10] <DarkElf109> .gnomerc
[12:10] <KrisWood> ok let's try this a different way....
[12:10] <KrisWood> how do I start a service with inetd
[12:10] <ardchoille> Seveas: Thanks, I have been looking for a way to do that for a while. Would that require a "&" at the end of the command in ~/.gnomerc ?
[12:11] <babis85> there is no such file? do i have to create it?
[12:11] <Seveas> ardchoille, no
[12:11] <Seveas> babis85, yes
[12:11] <taavi> hi
[12:11] <taavi> i have a problem with avi files?
[12:12] <babis85> Seveas: and simple put that line in it?
[12:12] <Seveas> babis85, indeed
[12:12] <Seveas> !avi > taavi
[12:12] <babis85> Seveas: ok, i'm gonna restart X
[12:12] <S0me1> taavi: use xine
[12:12] <babis85> thank you both
[12:12] <taavi> i've installed all those codecs
[12:13] <taavi> i've tried all the media players, all i hear is sound
[12:13] <KrisWood> :(
[12:13] <S0me1> taavi: did you try Xine?
[12:13] <taavi> yes
[12:13] <goblyn> okay, what is PLF?
[12:14] <alus> how can I change the max file descriptors per process?
[12:14] <S0me1> taavi: it should works
[12:14] <alus> and is there a way to query it?
[12:14] <foo> hm, I can't seem to mount my drive /dev/hdd or /dev/hdd1 for some reason. mount /dev/hdd1 /public says no filesystem found, specify. I try to mount /dev/hdd .. and it says it's busy. lsof | grep hdd shows nothing. Any ideas?
[12:14] <jungsonn> i have a last question about upgrading to breezy: i have alot installed, does this upgrading method remove all my installed apps?
[12:14] <taavi> some1: i know it should, but it aint :P
[12:14] <S0me1> taavi: try use VLC
[12:14] <DarkElf109> jungsonn: Nope
[12:14] <r0wd3> How do i install the Vesa Driver?
[12:15] <DarkElf109> Just upgrades whatever needs to be upgraded
[12:15] <Shinzetsu> r0wd3: it comes with xorg
[12:15] <DarkElf109> r0wd3: Should be installed by default, AFAIK
[12:15] <jungsonn> ok great, i go upgrading thank you :)
[12:15] <S0me1> taavi: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[12:15] <r0wd3> Oh well, Thats lame.
[12:15] <taavi> some1: have that one
[12:15] <r0wd3> In that case, I have another Question
[12:15] <S0me1> taavi: it is working fine with me
[12:16] <taavi> some1: for most it is, but i've heard the same problem with others
[12:16] <r0wd3> Ubuntu doesnt boot with my AGP 6600GT, doesnt get past the ubuntu boot screen (just freezes, i have to reboot and load ubuntu with my onboard graphics). If i boot in recovery mode, it doesnt finsh and I have to reboot.
[12:17] <S0me1> taavi: did you try use VLC? if not that mean you have problem with some codes
[12:17] <KrisWood> so I guess no one knows how to use inetd at the moment?
[12:17] <foo> Is there anyway I could show the filesystem types on different partitions?
[12:17] <KrisWood> :-/
[12:17] <goblyn> what is PLF?
[12:18] <Flannel> Penguin Liberation Front
[12:18] <taavi> some1: i have vlc, doesnt play
[12:18] <r0wd3> :9
[12:18] <S0me1> taavi: try use another avi file
[12:18] <babis85> Seveas: actually it didn't work
[12:19] <taavi> some1: i have many avi files,theyre all okey
[12:19] <taavi> some1: but dont play
[12:19] <S0me1> goblyn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penguin_Liberation_Front
[12:20] <ardchoille> babis85: It worked great for me. What command are you putting in ~/.gomerc?
[12:20] <xsquared> hi, im trying to complie a plugin and im getting heaps of errors. I think i am missing some dev packages but i can't figure out what im missing, could someone tell me what packages im missing?
[12:20] <xsquared> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20438
[12:20] <goblyn> what plugin do i use in place of quicktime for firefox?
[12:20] <r0wd3> Ubuntu doesnt boot with my AGP 6600GT, doesnt get past the ubuntu boot screen (just freezes, i have to reboot and load ubuntu with my onboard graphics). If i boot in recovery mode, it doesnt finsh and I have to reboot
[12:20] <Saviq> mplayer, vlc, xine
[12:20] <idontknow> hello
[12:21] <Saviq> whichever You like best
[12:21] <r0wd3> Can someone help or refer me to a forum?
[12:21] <HeXiOn> does anybody know where can I find the changelogs for compiz and cgwd?
[12:21] <idontknow> can someone help me please? my forum has all the sudden... started acting really strange
[12:21] <S0me1> taavi: http://avicodec.duby.info/
[12:21] <xsquared> r0wd3, ubuntuforums.org
[12:21] <PyroManiak> Seveas: Thank you, script worked beautifully :] 
[12:21] <idontknow> some topics come right up... but most of them... take around a minute to load
[12:22] <r0wd3> I have search there many times in the last 3 days
[12:22] <nick37343> #lamers
[12:22] <r0wd3> I didn't find anything.
[12:22] <nick37343> #lamers
[12:22] <idontknow> nothing has been changed..
[12:22] <Shinzetsu> where is the house icon for the home folder stored?
[12:22] <Swishboi> hey im thinking of running ubuntu. will i be able to run .exe files ?
[12:22] <xsquared> lol
[12:22] <idontknow> the server is ubuntu...
[12:22] <Shinzetsu> Swishboi: uhm. linux is not windows
[12:22] <nick37343> #lamers
[12:22] <xsquared> Swishboi, LOL!
[12:22] <idontknow> i get completely ignored?
[12:22] <nick37343> #lamers
[12:22] <nick37343> #lamers
[12:22] <nick37343> #lamers
[12:22] <Shinzetsu> ^shh
[12:22] <Flannel> !ops
[12:22] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[12:22] <Swishboi> yeh i know but i never run linux before so i take tht as a no
[12:22] <idontknow> someone boot that dude for flooding...
[12:23] <xsquared> Swishboi, go back to windows 8-)
[12:23] <Amaranth> bleh
[12:23] <goblyn> what plugin do i use in place of quicktime for firefox?
[12:23] <Shinzetsu> Swishboi: you can run some of your Windows apps under wine, but natively, no
[12:23] <xsquared> goblyn, ubuntuguide.org
[12:23] <ardchoille> Madpilot: Thank you :)
[12:23] <Swishboi> can i run them in a sandbox?
[12:23] <Flannel> idontknow: you havent given us nearly enough information to diagnose anything
[12:23] <S0me1> idontknow: yes i feel that
[12:23] <Amaranth> xsquared: Don't be rude.
[12:23] <Saviq> Swishboi: and more of them on VMware
[12:23] <TheGateKeeper> Swishboi: either dualbooting or running windows in vmware, or using wine, not in linux itself
[12:23] <Amaranth> !wine
[12:23] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:23] <KrisWood> !inetd
[12:23] <babis85> i put in the ~/.gnomerc the line : xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace"
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <goblyn> xsquared: that helped... not at all
[12:23] <Shinzetsu> where is the house icon for the home folder stored?
[12:23] <idontknow> is there any way someone can help me or atleast acknowledge my existance?
[12:24] <KrisWood> !xinetd
[12:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xinetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:24] <KrisWood> bah
[12:24] <Saviq> goblyn: I've already said
[12:24] <Amaranth> Shinzetsu: somewhere under /usr/share/icons
[12:24] <Swishboi> thanx guys
[12:24] <xsquared> goblyn, follow the tutorials, especially about the mplayer one, and the totem-firefox one
[12:24] <Amaranth> Shinzetsu: Depends on your theme and such.
[12:24] <Saviq> xine, mplayer, vlc whichever U like best
[12:24] <Flannel> 03:24 < Flannel> idontknow: you havent given us nearly enough information to diagnose anything
[12:24] <xsquared> goblyn, its not that hard to search
[12:24] <Amaranth> goblyn: What's the problem?
[12:24] <xsquared> use the Control F power
[12:24] <ardchoille> babis85: Did you try keysym 0xff08 instead of keycode 22 ?
[12:24] <S0me1> i agree with Saviq
[12:24] <idontknow> http://wine.getcontinuum.com/
[12:24] <Kittiah> Can anyone suggest some useful repositories for me to add?
[12:24] <marcin_ant> hi guys
[12:24] <Amaranth> xsquared: Please don't be rude, last warning.
[12:24] <r0wd3> join #ubuntu-au
[12:25] <xsquared> im not being rude, mate
[12:25] <babis85> ardchoille: no, that command seems to fix my problem
[12:25] <Amaranth> idontknow: You play Continuum?
[12:25] <idontknow> yes
[12:25] <TheGateKeeper> Swishboi: Windows to Ubuntu Transition Guide:http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/917/
[12:25] <idontknow> o.O
[12:25] <marcin_ant> I'm looking for good software for backups in local network based on windows clients
[12:25] <Amaranth> idontknow: Works great under WINE with the patch from the appdb. :)
[12:25] <babis85> ardchoille: but i want it to run on startup
[12:25] <Swishboi> cheers
[12:25] <Amaranth> idontknow: I play Trench Wars, how about you?
[12:26] <usama> hi all
[12:26] <marcin_ant> could someone advise me some good software to do backups on ubuntu based machine?
[12:26] <Amaranth> !backup
[12:26] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[12:26] <idontknow> im SSCI Admin, tryin to get some help on my damn forums
[12:26] <DarkElf109> !language
[12:26] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:26] <idontknow> its messed up man, some topics load instantly but most
[12:26] <Flannel> idontknow: so... 'nothing has changed', lets see, obviously, something has changed.  So, now we try and figure out what.  I imagine the forum uses SQL, and... who knows, somethig else.  it won't load for me.  I imagine its a SQL issue.  Bad data in your queries or whatnot.
[12:26] <idontknow> take forever
[12:26] <idontknow> over a minute or so
[12:27] <idontknow> no nothing has changed...
[12:27] <Amaranth> idontknow: Having some server issues?
[12:27] <ardchoille> babis85: babis85 why do you have "Backspace" in there twice?
[12:27] <Amaranth> idontknow: Oh, wine.getcontinuum.com is the site you're talking about?
[12:27] <idontknow> here is site im talkin bout http://eb.sszones.com/
[12:27] <Amaranth> idontknow: it never loaded for me
[12:27] <babis85> ardchoille: i don't know.
[12:27] <idontknow> no i sent that cause someone was talkin bout wine
[12:27] <loko555> hello, i have 3 deb-files in a directory, how could i install them with dpkg, i mean -i dont work. cause the 3 files are depencies with each other but dpkg wont recognize
[12:28] <babis85> ardchoille: i found that command, which solves my problem
[12:28] <idontknow> if u go and look at the forums you will see what im talkin bout in general there is one called Ants
[12:28] <idontknow>  it loads fast
[12:28] <ardchoille> babis85: ok
[12:28] <idontknow> the rest......
[12:28] <idontknow> nothing has changed on the server
[12:28] <babis85> ardchoille: when i press the backspace once and i am switched to greek the x server gets killed
[12:28] <idontknow> its default apt-get install mysql-server
[12:28] <idontknow>  package
[12:28] <Amaranth> loko555: If you use `dpkg -i file1.deb file2.deb file3.deb` it should work.
[12:28] <idontknow> been there for a while
[12:28] <idontknow> haven't done no work on site
[12:28] <babis85> ardchoille: by running that command it doesn't
[12:28] <idontknow>   come on the other day and then its all messed
[12:29] <Flannel> idontknow: no, the SOFTWARE hasnt changed.  something mustve changed.  whether it's data, or something else.
[12:29] <babis85> ardchoille: have you got any idea?
[12:29] <loko555> Amaranth: thanks this works
[12:29] <ardchoille> babis85: What is the exact line you put in ~/.gnomerc ?
[12:29] <idontknow> no software changed and the only thing that has been done is people using the forum as normal
[12:30] <Amaranth> loko555: No problem. :) dpkg is smart enough to realize that it's going to get the dependency resolved if you install them all in one go, something to remember for later.
[12:30] <goblyn> where do i download Automatix from?
[12:30] <babis85> aardchoille:  single line containing : xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace"
[12:30] <Amaranth> !automatix
[12:30] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[12:30] <ardchoille> goblyn: automatix is ot for this channel
[12:30] <KrisWood> wonderful, the wiki's solution for me is to simply not use inetd...
[12:30] <idontknow> anyone know why some topics would load fast.. and then others would take so long?
[12:30] <DarkElf109> Night all
[12:31] <Amaranth> KrisWood: inetd is for programs that don't know how to run themselves as a daemon
[12:31] <Amaranth> KrisWood: What are you trying to do?
[12:31] <goblyn> ardchoille: oh?
[12:31] <jhjp> I need some help: My network is so slow.... I have a Router with one XP notebook and one Ubuntu notebook connected. the ftp transfer from the ubuntu to the xp notebook runs at 30kb/s. it shoud run with 500kb/s
[12:31] <idontknow> been usin site since like 2005..
[12:31] <KrisWood> Amaranth, trying to run proftpd without having to type it into the command line every time I boot up
[12:31] <shinobi2> is there a mario-ish game for linux? i think there was super-tux or something
[12:31] <ardchoille> goblyn: Yes
[12:31] <goblyn> ardchoille: what do you mean>?
[12:31] <Amaranth> KrisWood: hrm, i think there is a better ftp daemon
[12:32] <Amaranth> !ftp
[12:32] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[12:32] <idontknow> your having troubles ith wine.getcontinuum.com amaranth?
[12:32] <Amaranth> bah
[12:32] <Shinzetsu> what size are normal icons?
[12:32] <Flannel> idontknow: looks like the topics with those orange images are problematic.  And the more, the longer it takes
[12:32] <Shinzetsu> 48x48?
[12:32] <Amaranth> idontknow: yep
[12:32] <KrisWood> Amaranth, When I upgraded to dapper it stopped working with inetd :-/
[12:32] <Amaranth> idontknow: still waiting for it to load
[12:32] <sean> Wow why do Java programs run so SLOW???
[12:32] <Flannel> idontknow: and yes, wine.getyadda doesnt load
[12:32] <idontknow> should...
[12:32] <idontknow> moment
[12:32] <ardchoille> goblyn: It's not recommended, talked about, supported, etc.
[12:32] <Amaranth> !find vsftpd
[12:32] <ubotu> Found: vsftpd
[12:32] <Amaranth> KrisWood: Try using vsftpd
[12:32] <goblyn> ardchoille: so the best policy is to completely ignore it and hope it goes away?
[12:32] <KrisWood> Amaranth, If proftpd isn't so good, what would you recommend instead and why?
[12:32] <idontknow> meh thats not my server thats Wonderers server
[12:33] <Flannel> idontknow: right, but *that* appears to be causing your problem
[12:33] <ardchoille> babis85: I have no idea, then. The syntax looks correct but I don't know what to tell you.
[12:33] <idontknow> i knew i should of hosted it
[12:33] <Amaranth> KrisWood: The official ubuntu server documentation says to use vsftpd
[12:33] <ardchoille> goblyn: Please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:33] <KrisWood> I was using vsftp before going to proftpd, I forget why I switched
[12:33] <Amaranth> https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[12:33] <idontknow> here if anyone wants continuum-wine there is a mirror site here http://www.network3d.net/portal/content/view/12/1/
[12:33] <goblyn> ardchoille: well, i'm sorry for thinking so, but if it's a bad idea to try it, tell me why so i don't use it
[12:33] <idontknow> but thats not why im here
[12:33] <KrisWood> ok that works I guess
[12:33] <sean> vsftp is not very secure
[12:34] <idontknow> proftpd is good
[12:34] <ardchoille> goblyn: You are now on my ignore list. Please be respectful of channel policies in the future
[12:34] <delta> Hi.
[12:34] <KrisWood> I've been happy with proftpd up until now
[12:34] <klm-> gftp
[12:34] <idontknow> easy to use, i suggest usin webmin with it
[12:34] <KrisWood> I'd like to keep using it
[12:34] <goblyn> ok, can someone tell me what ardchoille's problem is? i asked a simple question
[12:34] <KrisWood> webmin is a security risk
[12:34] <idontknow> lol everything is o.O
[12:34] <KrisWood> and a pain to set up as well
[12:35] <delta> I can see a connection I don't know from the internet on my local ip. What can I do?
[12:35] <sean> Anyone know anything that will put /. headlines in my menu bar thingy???
[12:36] <idontknow> anyone know where i might be able to go look
[12:36] <idontknow> to get some help
[12:36] <KrisWood> anyway, would it be possible to have the standalone version of proftpd start automaticly in init.d like vsftpd does?
[12:36] <idontknow> on my issue
[12:36] <idontknow> with my forums
[12:36] <KrisWood> hmmm
[12:37] <Amaranth> idontknow: I'd talk to the people who make the forum software.
[12:37] <Flannel> idontknow: Those images are the problem.  Look through your code, take a look at the other site.  And, clean up your html, you have a webpage in a webpage.
[12:37] <Amaranth> idontknow: If it worked before and the mysql and etc packages haven't changed since something is wrong with your database or your software
[12:37] <idontknow> flannel, some topics load fast
[12:37] <idontknow> the sites been working as is for a long time
[12:37] <Flannel> idontknow: the ones without those orange banner images load fast
[12:37] <DB2> Hi, i'm running ubuntu, and it seemed it crashed in a previous update, and now X-Windows is borked, and wont start... any ideas ? i see the nvidia logo, then the screen goes back to text mode....
[12:38] <idontknow> orange banner?
[12:38] <Flannel> idontknow: yes, the little... 100 x 15px  orange image things
[12:38] <idontknow> oh the new topic image
[12:38] <sean> DB2: You tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg???
[12:38] <idontknow> or new post
[12:38] <Amaranth> DB2: in the terminal run 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE' and look for anything that might be wrong
[12:38] <PyroManiak> Why doesn't ubuntu use my 1600x1200 resolution when I change to the nvidia driver?
[12:39] <Amaranth> !fixres
[12:39] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:39] <Flannel> idontknow: no.  the orange image.  http://eb.sszones.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=313 has one  http://eb.sszones.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=305 has one  http://eb.sszones.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=241 has none
[12:39] <DB2> i think the error was that it didnt find any /dev/watcom /dev/lots_of_stuff_it_needs
[12:39] <Amaranth> I wish they hadn't jammed those together
[12:39] <idontknow> everything on that site
[12:39] <Flannel> Amaranth: and they should've specified what ? means ;)
[12:39] <idontknow> was working perfect
[12:39] <sean> Is there any new Desktop env's/Window managers out there?
[12:39] <idontknow> for like months
[12:40] <ardchoille> sean: http://xwinman.org
[12:40] <Flannel> idontknow: well, something changed.  Lamenting about it here isn't going to do anything.  It's not an ubuntu problem, suggest you take it up with the server people, or the forum people.  And as I already said, clean up your html.  complete pages don't go inside of table cells.
[12:40] <idontknow> with everything exactly how it is, file wise also i did a buncha testing im not just some dude lookin to be spoon fed k? i installed new default php-nuke and tested
[12:40] <idontknow> on same database
[12:40] <idontknow> same issue
[12:40] <idontknow> used new database
[12:40] <idontknow> same issue
[12:40] <taavi> how do i move multiple files in terminal?
[12:40] <KrisWood> would anyone be willing to help me figure out what's wrong with my inetd / ftp? I don't want to change ftp servers just because dapper is being finicky
[12:40] <idontknow> i am server admin and i've even reinstall'd the mysql server
[12:41] <KrisWood> All I need is to find the right inetd configuration
[12:41] <DB2> i think the error was that it didnt find any /dev/watcom /dev/lots_of_stuff_it_needs what can be done?
[12:41] <Flannel> idontknow: then it's not the database, not your server.  must be that other site, the one with the orange images.
[12:41] <Amaranth> DB2: those are fine
[12:41] <S0me1> taavi: mv file1 file2 /tmp
[12:41] <Amaranth> DB2: it just means you don't have a wacom tablet
[12:41] <idontknow> im not lamenting.. im asking for help i been workin for hours on this issue with many people just seeing if anyones got any clue wtf
[12:41] <Amaranth> DB2: if you got to the nvidia splash screen your problem isn't /dev/something missing
[12:41] <KrisWood> ftp    stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/proftpd
[12:41] <DB2> ok, i'll reboot later, and try to do those stuff
[12:41] <KrisWood> anything look wrong with that?
[12:42] <Amaranth> KrisWood: No. I don't know what it does but it doesn't look wrong. ;)
[12:42] <thundr> idontknow, maybe you could try #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[12:42] <idontknow> the orange images are located on same site
[12:43] <delta> Is there a way to close a port?
[12:43] <idontknow> sure thundr, ill leave obvious no one has a clue what to do.. just like me.
[12:43] <S0me1> delta: yes
[12:44] <delta> S0me1, how? :)
[12:44] <S0me1> delta: netstat -nap | grep tcp
[12:44] <kallei> I'm having problems with my iptables, it seems to be installed somehow, but still not.  i can do  ptables -V
[12:44] <kallei> iptables v1.3.3
[12:44] <kallei>     , But  sudo iptables -L
[12:44] <kallei> FATAL: Module ip_tables not found.
[12:44] <kallei> iptables v1.3.3: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables who? (do you need to insmod?)
[12:44] <kallei>  .     I tried insmod ip_tables but that outputs:  insmod: can't read 'ip_tables': No such file or directory
[12:44] <S0me1> delta: then
[12:44] <Flannel> !paste
[12:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:44] <marcin_ant> Amaranth: thank you for all these suggestions about backup software unfortunately I haven't found anything suitable for my requirements :(
[12:44] <Flannel> kallei: don't paste here please.  use pastebin
[12:44] <marcin_ant> Amaranth: any other proposals?
[12:44] <KrisWood> this is quite frustrating...
[12:45] <kallei> I know i compiled my kernel with iptables, but im not sure i compiled it into the kernel or as a module, so i want to include it in the kernel. that is done with insmod right?
[12:45] <Amaranth> kallei: sudo modprobe ip_tables
[12:45] <linux_user400354> !vpn
[12:45] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[12:45] <KrisWood> I really wish there was more documentation about inetd
[12:45] <Amaranth> KrisWood: inetd is dead
[12:45] <kallei> Amaranth: FATAL: Module ip_tables not found.
[12:45] <linux_user400354> KrisWood: sure there is
[12:45] <Amaranth> kallei: Use the stock ubuntu kernel
[12:45] <S0me1> delta: look which port you want, it will show you which software use the port, then go to /etc/init.d/hp stop this is an example
[12:45] <linux_user400354> KrisWood: www.tldp.org
[12:45] <kallei> Amaranth:  No i dont want to
[12:45] <Amaranth> marcin_ant: No, sorry. Please tell me you're not looking for Time Machine.
[12:46] <KrisWood> linux_user400354, I mean for ubuntu, dapper seems to hate inetd
[12:46] <marcin_ant> Amaranth: what is Time Machine?
[12:46] <Amaranth> kallei: We don't have any idea what you did or didn't do to your custom kernel, it's hard to help. If I had to guess I'd say you forgot iptables support.
[12:46] <Jamie> Hey, anyone know how to make tvout work? i ahve an Nvidia Geforce 4 card.
[12:46] <Amaranth> marcin_ant: Oh, some OS X thing. Everyone has been saying 'Ubuntu needs this, please add it!' without even knowing how hard it would be.
[12:47] <kallei> Amaranth:  when running insmod ip_tables, do i have to stand in like the kernel src dir or something?  can i search for some files in the src dir to see if i included it as a module?
[12:47] <delta> S0me1, I see but this specific port doesn't show up with nestat; it does with firestarter though. And no application is listted ('unknown' instead)?!
[12:47] <KrisWood> ok I'll phrase it differently, does anyone know a way to get proftpd to start in dapper whenever I boot my machine without needing to type it into the command line?
[12:48] <linux_user400354> KrisWood: have you installed netkit-inetd ? there is not inetd by default.
[12:48] <Amaranth> kallei: I have no idea. I think you have to give it a full path to a ko file.
[12:48] <marcin_ant> Amaranth: well sort of ;)
[12:48] <linux_user400354> KrisWood: yes, i do it on my machine.
[12:48] <marcin_ant> Amaranth: but I need more advanced solution and I don't need so fancy interface (but to be honest I don't want cli only solution)
[12:48] <tony_> Anyone here able to answer a question about valknut? when searching for files second time around i get the same search performed all over again.
[12:48] <Amaranth> KrisWood: There is some file where you can drop in commands to be started but I can't find it.
[12:48] <delta> S0me1, I do have the ip which established the connection but I've no idea what it is.
[12:48] <KrisWood> linux_user400354, I had it installed in breezy, and then I upgraded, are you saying the upgrade would have removed it?
[12:48] <linux_user400354> KrisWood: you are better off with vsftpd though
[12:48] <Amaranth> marcin_ant: Use svn? :)
[12:49] <marcin_ant> Amaranth: I need to backup data from LAN with about 100 machines
[12:49] <Amaranth> marcin_ant: rsync?
[12:49] <marcin_ant> Amaranth: with resources mounted to ubuntu box with samba
[12:49] <KrisWood> bah, I really don't want to go back to vsftpd when my proftpd has been working satasfactorily for so long
[12:49] <linux_user400354> KrisWood: not that I know of. type `sudo apt-get install netkit-inetd` and see what happens
[12:49] <sean> Anyone using Enlightenment???
[12:49] <Amaranth> marcin_ant: I have never done any sort of backup that wasn't tar'ing up $HOME and burning it to a DVD. I have no idea how any of those things works, sorry.
[12:50] <marcin_ant> Amaranth: hmm rsync could be nice because I want to do initial backup and then backup only diff's
[12:50] <delta> Any idea S0me1?
[12:50] <JamieBE> Hi all, just a quick update on that xorg config problem
[12:50] <KrisWood> linux_user400354, yup, already the newest version
[12:50] <marcin_ant> Amaranth: ok no problem... thank you anyway
[12:50] <linux_user400354> KrisWood: you dont need that to get proftpd to boot on startup. use update-rc.d
[12:50] <KrisWood> linux_user400354, so you say you are running dapper and proftpd?
[12:51] <marcin_ant> Amaranth: but another thing is that I'm suprised that there is no such software already available
[12:51] <JamieBE> It turns out that deleting the .conf files in gdm and X11 and just letting X build new ones fixed the corrupt xorg.conf headers. I still have the refresh problem and will look into that later, thans all for your help
[12:51] <Amaranth> marcin_ant: oh, perhaps you want dirvish?
[12:51] <marcin_ant> Amaranth: I found bacula which is overcomplicated and doesn't support long filenames on windows
[12:51] <Amaranth> marcin_ant: it's a fancy wrapper around rsync, i guess
[12:51] <marcin_ant> Amaranth: so this is why it's not acceptable - but anyway I think that linux as
[12:51] <dystopianray> ubuntu has 64-bit openoffice builds now?
[12:51] <KrisWood> linux_user400354, can I use update-rc.d to restart it as well without starting the standalone proftpd in teh console?
[12:52] <marcin_ant> Amaranth: system for servers should have such software....
[12:52] <marcin_ant> Amaranth: back to google ;) thank you
[12:52] <stamen> hi
[12:52] <marcin_ant> dirvish
[12:52] <stamen> where I can find the last nvidia kernel and glx
[12:52] <Amaranth> marcin_ant: heh, backup stuff is a hard problem
[12:53] <demofilo> hello
[12:53] <stamen> version 1.0-8762
[12:53] <Amaranth> marcin_ant: No one solution can satisfy everyone.
[12:53] <Amaranth> marcin_ant: Everyone wants $PET_FEATURE to work. :)
[12:53] <jay> Does anyone know how the lovely ubuntu's screen-protection animations are produced? Using Java or OpenGL?
[12:53] <Amaranth> KrisWood: put proftpd in /etc/rc.local
[12:54] <Amaranth> jay: The screensavers? Those are OpenGL.
[12:54] <docta_v> wow java based screen saver...that would really suck
[12:54] <Amaranth> jay: Java is a programming language. OpenGL is a graphics technology.
[12:54] <Shinzetsu> docta_v: amen
[12:54] <linux_user400354> KrisWood: `sudo apt-get install bum`
[12:54] <stamen> so, can anybody help me
[12:54] <Amaranth> linux_user400354: that's for tweaking already existing startup scripts
[12:55] <Amaranth> stamen: Ubuntu 6.06 has the latest nvidia drivers
[12:55] <stamen> Amaranth: but the X says me that the versions are not the same, and X crash
[12:55] <stamen> Amaranth: the version for the Nvidia kernel is older than my driver
[12:55] <schnepfi> helloo, can anybody help me. i have got a problem with my usb soundcard
[12:56] <PyroManiak> Option "NvAGP" "3" <--- What does this do inside the xorg.conf
[12:56] <stamen> Amaranth: ant the X says to make them same
[12:56] <Amaranth> stamen: Oh, you're using edgy.
[12:56] <Amaranth> stamen: Switch to the nv driver and yell at nvidia to release new drivers.
[12:57] <Shinzetsu> Amaranth: tell that to ati ;-)
[12:57] <Amaranth> Shinzetsu: ati supports xorg 7.1 just fine
[12:57] <Pntkl> Hello
[12:57] <S0me1> delta: try know which server use the port
[12:57] <ag0ny> is someone using a WUSB54G V4 with WPA enbaled?
[12:57] <Amaranth> Shinzetsu: ATI is actually ahead of nVidia this time. :)
[12:57] <stamen> Amaranth: but I have the latest driver, and it was working till I had upgrade the linux kernel
[12:57] <Shinzetsu> Amaranth: I know but their drivers are baddd :\
[12:58] <S0me1> delta: you can use iptables
[12:58] <Shinzetsu> Amaranth: :O
[12:58] <Amaranth> Shinzetsu: That's not true at all, ATI's laptop support is much better.
[12:58] <Shinzetsu> Amaranth: okay :-)
[12:58] <Oni-Dracula> ibm lappy's for the win!
[12:58] <Oni-Dracula> now known as inovo
[12:58] <S0me1> delta: server = service
[12:58] <stamen> Amaranth: but I have the latest driver, and it was working till I had upgrade the linux kernel
[12:58] <Amaranth> stamen: You're using edgy, right?
[12:59] <Oni-Dracula> inovo lappy's love linux
[12:59] <Oni-Dracula> linux loves inovo lappy'
[12:59] <Oni-Dracula> s
[12:59] <arimo> Anyone who could help setting up SB Vibra16X for Xubuntu?
[12:59] <Amaranth> stamen: /join #ubuntu+1
[12:59] <Pntkl> tell me
[12:59] <Amaranth> Oni-Dracula: Do lenovo laptops use intel graphics?
[12:59] <stamen> Amaranth: what is edgy
[12:59] <Oni-Dracula> dunno, lets check!
[01:00] <Flannel> stamen: edgy is the development (read: not stable) version of ubuntu, that will be released in October
[01:00] <linux_user400354> KrisWood: this is what helped me to get no-ip dynamic dns software to start on its own. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[01:00] <arimo> Pntkl - was that for me?
[01:00] <ubuntu> hello everyone. when using fdisk, if i want to resize a partition (i've already shrunk the file system), deleting and recreating it is the way to go?
[01:00] <Amaranth> stamen: The development version of Ubuntu. If you don't know what it is you probably aren't using it. The problem you're having only occurs in edgy though, which is weird.
[01:00] <foo> Having some problems. fsck reports 150k files on my drive, but when I try to mount it... mount can't find the fs on the drive. Any ideas?
[01:00] <Amaranth> stamen: What, exactly, is the error message?
[01:01] <Amaranth> foo: What command are you using to mount it and what is the error message?
[01:01] <KrisWood> linux_user400354, I actually ended up doing something very similar just now for my proftpd, that's why I'd stopped talking heh
[01:01] <stamen> Amaranth: I must reset the X now, to tell what is it
[01:01] <Amaranth> stamen: wait
[01:01] <Oni-Dracula> Amaranth, they have ATI gfx
[01:01] <KrisWood> I'm just about to try out my little init.d script now :)
[01:01] <DJAdmiral> Is it possible to make a dual boot of Ubuntu and windoze with windoze being installed after ubuntu is installed?
[01:01] <Amaranth> stamen: X still works?
[01:01] <Flannel> DJAdmiral: yeah
[01:01] <Amaranth> Oni-Dracula: I don't want them then. :P
[01:01] <stamen> Amaranth:  the probloem is very strnage, because I am erinstaling the driver
[01:01] <DJAdmiral> Flannel: how so?
[01:01] <Amaranth> DJAdmiral: it's a PITA.
[01:02] <Amaranth> !grub
[01:02] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:02] <Oni-Dracula> Amaranth, nvm...that's only the expensive one...the others are intel
[01:02] <DJAdmiral> Amaranth: PITA?
[01:02] <foo> Amaranth: mount /dev/hdd1 /public .. error: VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hdd1
[01:02] <Amaranth> DJAdmiral: Pain In The A**
[01:02] <Flannel> DJAdmiral: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:02] <DJAdmiral> ah.
[01:02] <Amaranth> foo: ouch
[01:02] <Flannel> DJAdmiral: you just need to reinstall grub, assuming everything is still good partition wise.
[01:03] <foo> Amaranth: I just installed ubuntu... it said it never reformatted this drive. I have no idea why it would do this. fsck shows 150k files ... so how does it read those ?
[01:03] <stamen> an the X starts, but if I restart the PC, I must reinstall the the driver again and again
[01:03] <stamen> Amaranth: and I don't want to do this every time
[01:03] <DJAdmiral> Flannel: so I just install windoze as normal and re-install GRUB. correct?
[01:03] <Gu1> Right - let
[01:03] <Amaranth> stamen: Oh, you installed the driver manually? (didn't use the nvidia-glx package)
[01:03] <KrisWood> omg rofl
[01:03] <stamen> no
[01:03] <KrisWood> there was already a proftpd script in intit.d
[01:03] <Flannel> DJAdmiral: in theory ;)
[01:03] <KrisWood> init.d*
[01:04] <schnepfi> i have got a problem with my external soundcard, i havnt got any sound, any ideas?
[01:04] <Gu1> Let's try again... anyone who could help with setting up SB Vibra16 for Xubuntu?
[01:04] <Amaranth> stamen: How are you installing it?
[01:04] <stamen> Amaranth: I have installed nvidia-glx and nvidia kernel, and after that the driver from the web site
[01:04] <foo> Amaranth: Any ideas?
[01:04] <stamen> of NVIDIA
[01:04] <DJAdmiral> Flannel: I don't think I'll risk it. Any chance of getting windoze to work on VMWare or Qemu?
[01:05] <Amaranth> Gu1: Everything I can find says that card should work without doing anything.
[01:05] <TheGateKeeper> DJAdmiral: very wise decision :-)
[01:05] <linux_user400354> KrisWood: you better keep that website i gave you just incase what you are trying does not work
[01:05] <Amaranth> stamen: Ack!
[01:05] <greg> hi all
[01:05] <DJAdmiral> TheGateKeeper: Thank you! :)
[01:05] <KrisWood> OMG! I have resolved my issue all on my own without any help from anyone here or even from google!
[01:05] <stamen> Amaranth: ???
[01:05] <DJAdmiral> hi greg
[01:05] <KrisWood> The script didn't fix it
[01:05] <DJAdmiral> KrisWood: Congratulations!
[01:06] <KrisWood> in fact, I chucked my script because there was already one
[01:06] <Amaranth> stamen: driver from website == bad idea
[01:06] <foo> Amaranth: hm, I'll take that as a no :) Thanks anyways.
[01:06] <Gu1> Amaranth: I know... but it doesn't. ALSA website has installation instructions, but they fail since kernel source cannot be found...
[01:06] <stamen> but it works
[01:06] <schnepfi> another try.......my external soundcard doesnt work
[01:06] <Amaranth> foo: Nope, sounds like a broken partition
[01:06] <greg> how to know which files were installed for a package form the command line ?
[01:06] <squeljim> hey
[01:06] <DJAdmiral> TheGateKeeper: windoze me on VMWare or Qemu?
[01:06] <stamen> Amaranth: and all was working
[01:06] <KrisWood> the solution: When I upgraded to dapper it replaced my proftpd.conf with a version that used inetd instead of standalone
[01:06] <foo> Amaranth: how could fsck read the files? is there anyway to have fsck relabel it ext3?
[01:06] <stamen> Amaranth: till I have upgrade the linux kernel
[01:06] <KrisWood> all I had to do was change that line, then run the init.d script
[01:07] <squeljim> YES it works, i play counterstrike with ubuntu wow :D I am so happy
[01:07] <Amaranth> foo: I don't know, sorry.
[01:07] <stamen> Amaranth: to 16-686
[01:07] <Gu1> Amaranth: I know... but it doesn't. ALSA website has installation instructions, but they fail since kernel source cannot be found...
[01:07] <Amaranth> stamen: That's because the driver from the website doesn't update when you get a new kernel
[01:07] <DJAdmiral> squeljim: you mean winme on qemu works?
[01:07] <squeljim> nope
[01:07] <TheGateKeeper> DJAdmiral: never run either yet, so can't really advise you
[01:07] <squeljim> ubuntu + wine
[01:07] <stamen> Amaranth: so what to do
[01:07] <DJAdmiral> TheGateKeeper: Thanks anyway
[01:07] <DJAdmiral> squeljim: ah
[01:08] <stamen> Amaranth: to make all working properly
[01:08] <squeljim> + thoma.tff font -_-
[01:08] <DJAdmiral> In either case, I want to stay away from windoze as much as possible
[01:08] <stamen> squeljim: how did you play CS
[01:08] <TheGateKeeper> DJAdmiral: I use a caddy system with 2 different hard disc (now there's trust for you lol )
[01:08] <Amaranth> stamen: -16-686 doesn't exist
[01:08] <Amaranth> stamen: do you mean 2.6.15-26-686?
[01:08] <squeljim> stamen: how?!
[01:09] <DJAdmiral> the only reason I want to get windoze on this is so I can play Unreal Tournament: GOTY edition
[01:09] <stamen> Amaranth: my mistake, this is the kernel 2.6.15-26-686
[01:09] <DJAdmiral> but there is a linux version available as long as you have the GOTY cds, which I have so...
[01:09] <Amaranth> stamen: sudo apt-get --reinstall install libgl1-mesa-dri nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686
[01:09] <DJAdmiral> there's just one tiny bummer.
[01:09] <Amaranth> stamen: run that, hopefully it'll trash the website install with a proper setup
[01:10] <stamen> Amaranth: ok 10x, I will try now
[01:10] <DarkMageZ> does anyone know how i can increase the buffer size for radio streams in gstreamer/rhythmbox?
[01:10] <stamen> Amaranth: lets hope all will work
[01:10] <stamen> Amaranth: :)
[01:10] <braintix> how do i run konqueror as su or somting so i can copy my backup to /var/www ?
[01:10] <Gu1> Amaranth: I know... but it doesn't. ALSA website has installation instructions, but they fail since kernel source cannot be found...
[01:10] <Amaranth> braintix: you have to run it from a terminal
[01:10] <TheGateKeeper> DJAdmiral: if you use qema you want the faster (proprietry) version, not sure what it is called
[01:10] <squeljim> stamen: latest wine, cp tahoma.ttf /drive_c/windows/font/ and install steam with wine steam.exe
[01:10] <braintix> noo :(
[01:10] <Amaranth> Gu1: URL to these instructions?
[01:11] <Gu1> Amaranth: a sec...
[01:11] <squeljim> it works :D
[01:11] <Amaranth> TheGateKeeper: qemu will not run games
[01:11] <stamen> squeljim: which version do you play, source?
[01:11] <squeljim> nope 1.6
[01:11] <Gu1> Amaranth: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labs&card=Sound+Blaster+Vibra16X.&chip=sb16&module=sb16
[01:11] <Amaranth> TheGateKeeper: It barely runs Windows.
[01:11] <Goblyn> are there any programs available to list the physical conditions of the PC?
[01:11] <squeljim> top ?!
[01:11] <DJAdmiral> I have a 6 year old compaq presario. It has a synaptics touchpad, and my PS/2 mouse won't work when I connect it. So how do I make my PS/2 mouse work? I don't care if I don't have scrollmouse functionality. I don't even care if my touchpad won't work if I connect my PS/2 mouse, I just want it to work.
[01:11] <TheGateKeeper> Amaranth: I bow to your greater knowledge never used it :-)
[01:12] <Gu1> Amaranth: dmsg shows that the card is recognized correctly... but not found
[01:12] <braintix> Amaranth: is there no other way to do it im not stong in terminals
[01:12] <Amaranth> Gu1: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[01:12] <Amaranth> Gu1: copy/paste that to a terminal, don't type it out manually
[01:13] <Goblyn> are there any programs available to list the physical conditions of the PC?
[01:13] <squeljim> ubuntu rocks!
[01:13] <Gu1> Amaranth: a sec again
[01:13] <Amaranth> braintix: I don't think so.
[01:13] <squeljim> Goblyn: top ?!
[01:13] <Amaranth> braintix: But I don't use KDE, you might want to ask in #kubuntu
[01:13] <DJAdmiral> let me rephrase - me with laptop with touchpad. me no want touchpad, me want ps2 mouse, but ps2 mouse no work. help? :P
[01:13] <Goblyn> squeljim: huh?
[01:13] <lwizardl> hi
[01:13] <Amaranth> DJAdmiral: you have a laptop with ps/2 ports? wow
[01:13] <squeljim> Goblyn: type top in terminal ?!
[01:14] <DJAdmiral> Amaranth: yeah. 6 year old nostalgia.
[01:14] <Amaranth> Goblyn: What do you mean by physical conditions? temperatures?
[01:14] <PyroManiak> Any reason why my LCD wont go higher then 1400x1050 in linux?
[01:14] <Amaranth> !fixres
[01:14] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:14] <Goblyn> Amaranth: yes, temperature, current speeds and the like
[01:14] <Gu1> Amaranth: "Couldn
[01:14] <Amaranth> PyroManiak: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:14] <Amaranth> Gu1: ?
[01:14] <Gu1> Amaranth: "Couldn't find package linux-headers-uname -r
[01:15] <Amaranth> Gu1: gah, i said copy/paste it :P
[01:15] <lwizardl> I have a pc running lts 6.06 lts and using kdm/kde for gui and now it's stuck in a login loop after amarok crashed, anyone know how to fix ?
[01:15] <Gu1> Did
[01:15] <Amaranth> Gu1: the backticks went away (`)
[01:15] <Gu1> Amaranth: go figure...
[01:15] <ardchoille> Gu1: How did you copy&paste and lose the backticks
[01:15] <ardchoille> lol
[01:15] <DJAdmiral> lwizardl: erm, use live cd to backup data and reinstall?
[01:15] <Amaranth> Gu1: They don't when I copy/paste from xchat-gnome to gnome-terminal. :)
[01:16] <Amaranth> lwizardl: login loop?
[01:16] <lwizardl> DJAdmiral, i've tried to mount the hd using a livecd and it won't mount just errors
[01:16] <Gyuszk> hi guys, can I mount .bin/cue images like ISO images? If not, what can i do with them? Can i convert them to ISO?
[01:16] <Gu1> Amaranth; I'm running Xubuntu - no gnome-terminal. At least yet :-)
[01:16] <Amaranth> lwizardl: Yikes, I think your hard drive died.
[01:16] <Gu1> Amaranth: typing rocks :-D
[01:17] <lwizardl> Amaranth, yes login screen i enter the info screen goes black and repeats
[01:17] <Wermut> lwizardl: Can you be more explicit, i.e. what error messages do you get.
[01:17] <DJAdmiral> lwizardl: do you hear sounds from your hard drive? strange scratching sounds?
[01:17] <Gyuszk> can I mount .bin/cue images like ISO images? If not, what can i do with them? Can i convert them to ISO?
[01:17] <lwizardl> Amaranth, I wouldn't be able to get to a login prompt if it did
[01:17] <Gu1> Amaranth: What woudl be the next step?
[01:17] <lwizardl> DJAdmiral, no
[01:17] <DJAdmiral> Gyuszk: There is a tool for linux called BIN2ISO which converts bin files into iso.
[01:17] <Amaranth> !info bin2iso
[01:17] <ubotu> Package bin2iso does not exist in dapper
[01:17] <Amaranth> hrm
[01:18] <Amaranth> !info bchunk
[01:18] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[01:18] <DJAdmiral> there we go
[01:18] <Amaranth> Gu1: If you got that package installed start following the directions on that website, I guess.
[01:18] <DJAdmiral> Gyuszk: you want bchunk then.
[01:18] <void^> DJAdmiral: there's cdemu to mount it directly
[01:18] <DJAdmiral> !info cdemu
[01:18] <ubotu> Package cdemu does not exist in dapper
[01:18] <DJAdmiral> !cdemu
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdemu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <Amaranth> lwizardl: perhaps run fsck on the partition from a livecd?
[01:18] <Gyuszk> thanks guys for answers
[01:18] <Gu1> Amaranth: K. Let's see...
[01:18] <void^> http://cdemu.sourceforge.net
[01:19] <DJAdmiral> void^: ah, thanks
[01:19] <Amaranth> lwizardl: otherwise ask in #kubuntu, I have no idea how KDM works
[01:19] <gorski> my tvtime doesn't scan chanels that i had before.
[01:19] <lwizardl> if I want to force delete a full directory how would i do it
[01:19] <DJAdmiral> Who here has made their own distro?
[01:19] <Amaranth> rm -rf /path/to/dir
[01:19] <lwizardl> I'm wondering if i'm out of space on the drive
[01:19] <DJAdmiral> lwizardl: rm -rf /dirname
[01:19] <Amaranth> DJAdmiral: Why bother? :P
[01:19] <DJAdmiral> Amaranth: you beat me to it lol
[01:19] <ardchoille> Amaranth: wowsers, you type fast :)
[01:20] <DJAdmiral> Amaranth: for the learning experience.
[01:20] <Amaranth> ardchoille: 70wpm :)
[01:20] <DJAdmiral> archoille: either that or he's an AI bot with canned responses :P
[01:20] <ardchoille> Amaranth: o.O
[01:20] <Amaranth> unless i start making errors, takes my brain a minute to backtrack
[01:20] <ardchoille> DJAdmiral: lol
[01:20] <Amaranth> DJAdmiral: I've been planning on turning ubotu in to something like that
[01:20] <Gu1> Amaranth: so far so good :-)
[01:21] <DJAdmiral> Amaranth: an AI chatbot? lol
[01:21] <Amaranth> DJAdmiral: A combination bayesian classifier + ALICE bot on top of ubotu's factoids
[01:21] <DJAdmiral> Amaranth: ah, good ol' ALICE.
[01:21] <Amaranth> DJAdmiral: Not for talking to, just asking questions.
[01:21] <Amaranth> DJAdmiral: I could probably drop the ALICE part, it's not needed.
[01:21] <DJAdmiral> brb guys
[01:22] <Amaranth> DJAdmiral: Basically the bayesian classifier figures out that 'Why does my LCD only go to 1024x768?' means 'fixres' and then the bot shows that factoid
[01:22] <PyroManiak> Ok, still not giving me my 1600x1200 resolution... no matter what resolution I pick, It ALWAYS got to 1400x1050.. which screws up the display
[01:22] <Amaranth> PyroManiak: nvidia?
[01:23] <PyroManiak> Amaranth: Yes
[01:23] <ardchoille> PyroManiak: Is this an LCD panel ?
[01:23] <Amaranth> PyroManiak: Does it work if you use the nv driver instead of the nvidia one?
[01:23] <PyroManiak> Amaranth: Works fine with "nv", but not with "nvidia"
[01:23] <Amaranth> PyroManiak: Congrats, you've found a bug in nvidia's driver. :/
[01:23] <jungsonn> back again with an upgrada erro :)
[01:23] <PyroManiak> Amaranth, is it known? lol
[01:24] <Amaranth> PyroManiak: I've found that if you try to set the resolution, log out, kill gdm (ctrl-alt-backspace), then login, it usually gives you the resolution you wanted.
[01:24] <jungsonn> anyone knows what this means?
[01:24] <jungsonn> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libofx2_10x1,3a3600000005dp-8690.8.0-3ubuntu8_i386.deb:
[01:24] <jungsonn> trying to overwrite `/usr/share/libofx/dtd/opensp.dcl', which is also in package libofx0c10
[01:24] <braintix> how do i copy a file or dir through terimal ?
[01:24] <Amaranth> PyroManiak: Known for ages and ever fixed.
[01:24] <DJAdmiral> back
[01:24] <Amaranth> jungsonn: Are you using non-ubuntu repositories?
[01:24] <PyroManiak> Amaranth: My screen works fine at that resolution, but my roomies laptop doesn't
[01:25] <jungsonn> i guess not i checked all breezy packages
[01:25] <TheGateKeeper> braintix: http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[01:25] <Amaranth> jungsonn: Uninstall libofx0c10?
[01:25] <braintix> thx TheGateKeeper
[01:25] <DJAdmiral> braintix: you want to go to the linux survival course for the terminal
[01:25] <TheGateKeeper> braintix: yw :-)
[01:25] <DJAdmiral> braintix: www.LinuxSurvival.com
[01:26] <Amaranth> !info libofx0c10
[01:26] <ubotu> Package libofx0c10 does not exist in dapper
[01:26] <jungsonn> uhmm... my terminal is gone...
[01:26] <PyroManiak> Amaranth: How do you "pick" the resolution? its not even an option in gnome
[01:26] <ardchoille> TheGateKeeper: That's a nice URL, thanks :)
[01:26] <braintix> just been used to go trough su konqueror in other dist just swaped to ubuntu to see if i like it
[01:26] <Amaranth> PyroManiak: In that case you need the URL I pointed you to before.
[01:27] <DJAdmiral> PyroManiak: System>Preferences>ScreenResolution
[01:27] <Amaranth> braintix: sudo konqueror
[01:27] <PyroManiak> Amaranth: I have the xorg.conf file set to ONLY use 1600x1200... but it still forces 1400x1050
[01:27] <Amaranth> PyroManiak: Did you do the other things that URL said?
[01:27] <DJAdmiral> PyroManiak: has your screen ever been able to do a 1600x1200 screen before?
[01:28] <PyroManiak> Amaranth: It is causing some nasty screen tearing on the right and bottom *almost looks like it tries to redraw top/left*
[01:28] <PyroManiak> DJAdmiral: Yes, it works in windows for years at that resolution
[01:28] <Amaranth> PyroManiak: That's not the problem, that's a symptom of the problem. :)
[01:28] <Amaranth> PyroManiak: You probably need to set refresh rates and such on xorg.conf
[01:28] <lwizardl> DJAdmiral, Amaranth, ok it was out of space I removed a folder that was over 20GB (copyied from another local pc, can redo) and now kde gui and ubuntu is back up and running
[01:29] <jungsonn> i try to remove that libofx: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:29] <Amaranth> lwizardl: cool
[01:29] <braintix> Amaranth: it dosent work i get erro messages
[01:29] <DJAdmiral> lwizardl: good to know :)
[01:29] <Amaranth> jungsonn: Close synaptic first
[01:29] <PyroManiak> Amaranth: How do I find out the exacts for a laptop LCD? not like I got a user guide? lol
[01:29] <DJAdmiral> PyroManiak: LCDs always refresh at 60 hertz if im not mistaken
[01:29] <Amaranth> PyroManiak: Well, that URL tells you about a tool that usually works, otherwise check out monitorworld.com
[01:29] <DJAdmiral> PyroManiak: I'll go check
[01:30] <foo> I used to be able to mount /dev/hdd /folder... I know this is bad, but that is how I did it on debian. Now, on ubuntu, I get: mount /dev/hdd already mounted or /public/ busy ... any ideas?
[01:30] <DJAdmiral> PyroManiak: yep. LCD screen refresh default is 60 Hz.
[01:30] <Gasten> Hi! I want to download files with bittorrent to my slave hdd, but to acces to it the program needs root. is there a away I could change this restriction without giving bittorrent root?
[01:30] <jungsonn> ok removed: gnucash: Depends: libofx2 but it is not going to be installed
[01:30] <Amaranth> Gasten: Is it a windows drive?
[01:31] <jungsonn> so i try again to upgrade now
[01:31] <Gasten> Amranth: There is a win2k partition in it, but the mayority is ext3.
[01:31] <Gasten> Amaranth: majority*
[01:31] <Gasten> Amaranth: and I wantto save on the ext3.
[01:32] <Amaranth> Gasten: You need to set permissions on the directory you want to save to, I guess.
[01:32] <PyroManiak> Amaranth: Guide steps didn't work, but I'm checking the refresh rates for v and H in windows right now
[01:33] <Amaranth> PyroManiak: `sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange` doesn't work?
[01:33] <Gu1> When doing ./configure I get messages "pointer targets ... differ in signedness". Fatal?
[01:33] <Amaranth> Gu1: Nope, that's a warning.
[01:34] <Amaranth> Gu1: It could cause problems later but unless you're a kernel programmer you can't fix it. :)
[01:34] <Gu1> Amar: Ah. About:
[01:34] <PyroManiak> Amaranth: let me relog linux on that machine and see what happens
[01:34] <Gu1> Argh! About what?
[01:34] <Amaranth> What?
[01:34] <Amaranth> About?
[01:34] <DJAdmiral> Gu1: sometimes warnings don't hurt
[01:34] <DJAdmiral> Gu1: it's because C program standards change very often
[01:35] <PyroManiak> Amaranth: I dont see that step in the guide you sent
[01:35] <DJAdmiral> Gu1: so it kinda warns about correct but slightly less appropriate code.
[01:35] <DJAdmiral> Gu1: Like Main(){} is correct but maybe it wants that function on different lines.
[01:35] <Gu1> DJA: The warning comes with ALSA installation, and I took the latest packages without rc in the name. They differ slightly. That might do it, or?
[01:35] <Amaranth> PyroManiak: It's in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:35] <ubuntudapper2__> i want to convert .vob files to avi
[01:35] <Gu1> The version nubmer differs - 1.0.9b vs 1.0.9
[01:36] <DJAdmiral> Gu1: depends really. personally I don't bother about warnings
[01:36] <Gu1> Tnx DJA :-)
[01:37] <DJAdmiral> Gu1: when it comes to compiling core packages you WILL get warnings - no chance you'll ever slip by a configure or make without a warning
[01:37] <Gu1> DJA: Noticed before... I just like to know what I'm being warned about...
[01:37] <DJAdmiral> Gu1: the only thing you should be worried about is it says error or something. anyway, your welcome :)
[01:37] <ubuntudapper2__> How can i convert from vob files to avi?
[01:37] <DJAdmiral> !vob
[01:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vob - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:38] <Amaranth> ubuntudapper2__: looking
[01:38] <Gasten> Amaranth: Thanks. It's working now.
[01:38] <PyroManiak> Amaranth: That command for ddcprobe doesn't work?
[01:39] <jungsonn> are these errors normal by upgrading? i get plenty of them in the terminal.: Perl error: falling back to the standard locale "C"
[01:39] <visik7> the claim by intel to opensource its driver was not so true at least
[01:39] <visik7> at last
[01:39] <Amaranth> PyroManiak: Heh, that was just a first try. I almost never works for me either.
[01:39] <Amaranth> PyroManiak: Check in Windows (refresh rate != horiz/vert refresh) or monitorworld.com
[01:40] <PyroManiak> Amaranth: doesn't show it for the windows drivers
[01:40] <DJAdmiral> Amaranth: That's a handy link. does it only work on windoze?
[01:41] <Amaranth> DJAdmiral: monitorworld.com?
[01:41] <DJAdmiral> Amaranth: That's the one.
[01:41] <Amaranth> DJAdmiral: I've used it to setup old PCs with Ubuntu before, it's just a listing of monitor info.
[01:41] <Amaranth> (why would it be windows only?)
[01:41] <PyroManiak> Amaranth: How does that help with a laptop screen? lol
[01:41] <Amaranth> PyroManiak: Maybe they have laptops listed?
[01:41] <DJAdmiral> Amaranth: Ah, cool. it reminds me of the famous www.cameramonitor.com joke
[01:42] <DJAdmiral> Amaranth: or www.monitorcamera.com or something like that.
[01:45] <DJAdmiral> wow that's a lot of entries and exits.
[01:45] <Amaranth> indeed
[01:45] <DJAdmiral> reminds me of Jacque's Seven Ages of Man.
[01:45] <munsa> Hello, I was wondering if someone could help me, I am at a net cafe right now connected to a bunch of windowz computers. I was wondering how I would be able to connect to them via the network.
[01:45] <Amaranth> i'm out of practice, was hard keeping up with all that traffic
[01:46] <Amaranth> and this is the slow period :P
[01:46] <DJAdmiral> munsa: connect as in you want to transfer files or something?
[01:46] <Amaranth> munsa: Trying to steal files off a stranger's laptop?
[01:46] <DJAdmiral> munsa: or run a network game or something?
[01:46] <DJAdmiral> Amaranth: good one
[01:46] <munsa> yea, I want to take some files from here
[01:47] <DJAdmiral> munsa: erm, email?
[01:47] <Amaranth> Places->Network Servers
[01:47] <munsa> email?
[01:47] <Amaranth> but you'll likely need passwords so you can't get anything you're not allowed
[01:48] <munsa> im allowed haha they dont care if i take anyting from here
[01:48] <munsa> lol
[01:48] <jungsonn> ok i have a problem i think: jungsonn@dhcppc0:~$ sudo apt-get remove firefox
[01:48] <jungsonn> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:48] <ardchoille> I'm currently at 192.168.0.4 how do I send a message to 192.168.0.2? note, message on the screen, anything.
[01:49] <Amaranth> jungsonn: Do what it says
[01:49] <DJAdmiral> jungsonn: 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' then? lol
[01:49] <kingman> Hello,eveyrone.Why I can't find "tun" device after use "sudo modprobe tun" load tun device.I am use ubuntu dapper,Who can tell me what wrong,Thanks.
[01:49] <jungsonn> i did
[01:49] <jungsonn> dpkg: deze bewerking kan alleen uitgevoerd worden door de beheerder
[01:49] <Amaranth> translation?
[01:49] <jungsonn> this can only be done by the administrator
[01:49] <DJAdmiral> Amaranth: www.freetranslation.com?
[01:49] <Amaranth> jungsonn: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:49] <jungsonn> roughly ;)
[01:50] <Amaranth> kingman: it should be /dev/net/tun
[01:50] <Amaranth> ardchoille: I don't think you can.
[01:50] <jungsonn> hmm ok
[01:50] <SirKillalot> is it normal that ubuntu wont work when I change my RAM configuration
[01:50] <SirKillalot> ?
[01:51] <Amaranth> SirKillalot: Only if the RAM you put in is bad.
[01:51] <jungsonn> Ghehe strange i typed it first, now it works :)
[01:51] <kingman> Amaranth: yes, i can finded "/dev/net/tun",but can't use "ifconfig tun" or "ifconfig tun0" configure it,Thanks,
[01:51] <SirKillalot> Amaranth, its working fine normally, but now ubuntu wont boot with it
[01:52] <Amaranth> kingman: I don't think you use it like that.
[01:52] <Amaranth> kingman: it's usually used for an application to emulate a network card
[01:52] <Amaranth> SirKillalot: No errors?
[01:53] <munsa> I am having a problem with Mplayer. I can play video from the command line but when I try and play with the GUI I get this error... "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device." Any ideas???
[01:53] <kingman> Amaranth: I see,but I can't use the virtual device,Please tell me how do it.Thank you.
[01:53] <Amaranth> kingman: What are you trying to do?
[01:53] <Amaranth> munsa: use totem ;)
[01:53] <DJAdmiral> i gtg
[01:54] <PyroManiak> Anyone know how I can rename a drive in "Places/Computer"?
[01:54] <Gu1> BRB
[01:54] <DJAdmiral> Amaranth: nice chatting, hope you get the alice thing working soon lol
[01:54] <DJAdmiral> cya
[01:54] <kingman> Amaranth: I tried it,the virutual device also can't use it.
[01:54] <Amaranth> kingman: What are you trying to do?
[01:54] <Jamie> hum.. why cant i browse my cddrive? i can play stuff from it.. when autostarted
[01:55] <Amaranth> DJAdmiral: bye
[01:55] <munsa> Amaranth Totem sux
[01:55] <Amaranth> Jamie: You have to use sound-juicer to rip a CD
[01:55] <kingman> Amaranth: I want use qemu with tap/tun function,
[01:56] <Amaranth> kingman: if /dev/net/tun exists qemu should do all the setup work
[01:56] <neenaoffline> I want to run a command everytime xscreensaver starts , how can I go about it
[01:56] <Amaranth> neenaoffline: You can't.
[01:57] <kingman> Amaranth: Thank you,I am trying now,thank you.
[01:57] <Jamie> I dont wanna rip a cd.. i wanna browse the content of a none audio cd
[01:57] <santa99> !iptables
[01:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[01:58] <Amaranth> Jamie: Does the disc show up on your desktop?
[01:58] <Jamie> it shows up in places/computer
[01:58] <Jamie> and if i input an audio cd it autoruinns..
[01:58] <Jamie> so it does work
[01:58] <neenaoffline> Amaranth: according someone else I can
[01:59] <Micksa> hi
[01:59] <Skippy> hey all
[01:59] <Micksa> how many people make up canonical at the moment?
[01:59] <santa99> he guys could you tell me a good guide about iptables
[01:59] <Amaranth> neenaoffline: Ask them how to do it. :) I have no idea.
[01:59] <ardchoille> neenaoffline: then that someone else should tell you how. Is it an app you want to run?
[02:00] <neenaoffline> ardchoille: well yeah , a command line app
[02:00] <Amaranth> santa99: You could spend a lifetime learning about iptables. :)
[02:00] <Jamie> what flags shoudl i sue when mounting my DVD-reader?
[02:00] <Amaranth> Micksa: Canonical does not release staff information.
[02:00] <santa99> Amaranth, so i would only like a short introduce
[02:00] <santa99> Amaranth, do you maybe have a good link
[02:01] <Jamie> how shoudl i mount my dvd anyway?
[02:01] <Amaranth> santa99: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Iptables_for_newbies
[02:01] <Micksa> *blink* okay
[02:01] <Amaranth> Jamie: sudo mount -t udf /dev/dvd /media/cdrom0
[02:01] <santa99> Amaranth, thx
[02:01] <Amaranth> Jamie: That's if you're mounting a DVD
[02:01] <Amaranth> Jamie: sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/dvd /media/cdrom0
[02:02] <Amaranth> Jamie: That's for a CDROM
[02:02] <neildarlow> Jamie: you should have a /media/cdrom? entry for it in /etc/fstab. just sudo mount /media/cdrom?
[02:03] <Skippy> does anyone know hot to check if the 3d accel is working
[02:04] <Skippy> is there a command for that or somethnig
[02:04] <Amaranth> Skippy: glxinfo | grep direct
[02:04] <ardchoille> Skippy: glxinfo | grep render
[02:04] <jungsonn> *big sigh* but i'm upgraded to breezy now :)  thank for your excellent support!!!
[02:05] <Amaranth> jungsonn: Cool, now you just need to upgrade to dapper. :)
[02:05] <jungsonn> exactly ;)
[02:05] <Amaranth> jungsonn: update-manager in breezy should be able to handle that without too much of a headache
[02:06] <jungsonn> i guess i need a reboot now?
[02:06] <Amaranth> to get the new kernel and such, yes
[02:07] <ardchoille> Amaranth: How do yu upgrade from Breezy to Dapper? I tried replacing all instances of Breezy with Dapper in sources.list and it ended up breaking nearly everything.
[02:07] <Shinzetsu> can someone recommend me a good hex editor?
[02:07] <Amaranth> ardchoille: gksudo "update-manager -d"
[02:07] <Amaranth> !dapper
[02:07] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[02:07] <ardchoille> I ended up installing from a Dapper install cd
[02:08] <Amaranth> bleh
[02:08] <Amaranth> !upgrade
[02:08] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[02:08] <Amaranth> oh, the command i told you might try to upgrade you to edgy, dunno
[02:08] <ardchoille> Amaranth: Ahh, that's why, I did it wrong
[02:08] <jungsonn> i use Ghex
[02:09] <foo> Ok, I did mount /dev/hdd /folder on debian stable ..but on debian server 6.06 I do that, and it throws this error: mount: /dev/hdd already mounted or /public/ busy. I've spent hours on this problem with no luck. I think something debian did ubuntu doesn't do or something. Any ideas?
[02:11] <ych> hi
[02:11] <ardchoille> foo: is /dev/hdd already mounted?
[02:11] <foo>  umount: /public/: not mounted.
[02:11] <foo> No
[02:11] <foo> mount | grep hdd .. no
[02:12] <Shinzetsu> if I have a  user, and I change his name, does his /home/ dir stay the same?
[02:12] <schnepfi__> hello
[02:12] <foo>  /dev/hdd is a hard drive with no partition. Yes, I know this is bad. Definitely going to get fixed
[02:12] <bimberi> Shinzetsu: yes, but there are commands that will change the home dir too
[02:12] <Shinzetsu> okay
[02:13] <Shinzetsu> bimberi: thanks
[02:13] <bimberi> Shinzetsu: it's "usermod" (just looked it up)
[02:13] <ardchoille> foo: Well, if it has no partition, then it has no filesystem on it. mount mounts filesystems.. if there is no fs, then it can't be mounted, right?
[02:13] <Shinzetsu> will do, thanks :-)
[02:14] <bimberi> Shinzetsu: np :)
[02:14] <foo> ardchoille: the filesyste is on /dev/hdd
[02:14] <foo> I mounted with that on debian
[02:14] <ardchoille> foo: How can you have a file system on a hdd that doesn't have any partitions?
[02:14] <ian1> Question: Installing Ubuntu on a Dell Dimension 8100 (P4 1.4)... At boot I get some message about "MP tables".  Any thoughts?
[02:14] <schnepfi__> hello, can somebody help me, i have got a problem with my external soundcard, who can help me
[02:15] <erUSUL> !anybody
[02:15] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:15] <foo> ardchoille: I don't know, but I do. I'm not going to argue. I mounted with this for months and years on debian.
[02:15] <schnepfi__> okok
[02:15] <ardchoille> foo: Not arguing, but I just don't see how you are able to mount it at all. Just curious.
[02:16] <foo> nah, it's cool. It's 5am, I've been on this for 5 hours, and it's bugging me.
[02:16] <foo> my bad
[02:16] <ardchoille> no problem :)
[02:16] <ardchoille> foo: You might try posting the problem to ubuntuforums.org .. that forum is awesome.
[02:17] <foo> ardchoille: nice, but I don't have time for that.
[02:17] <santa99> !ask
[02:17] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:17] <santa99> !ask > schnepfi__
[02:18] <schnepfi__> im using a laptop and ubuntu. but i would like to use my external soundcard. but if i select my external soundcard nothing changes and the music keep on playing on my internal soundcard, and i dont know the reason for this
[02:18] <ardchoille> Amaranth: Is it possible to mount a hd that doesn't have any partitions?
[02:18] <Amaranth> ardchoille: nope
[02:18] <ardchoille> I didn't think so
[02:18] <Amaranth> it has to have a filesystem on it
[02:18] <ardchoille> That's what I thought
[02:20] <Hyperpenguin> Hi there!
[02:20] <neenaoffline> can anyone tell me why this isn't working .........
[02:20] <neenaoffline> neenaoffline@Aiko:~/Stuff/hostedfiles$ thttpd -p 53446 -l /home/neenaoffline/Stuff/hostedfiles/nothosted/neenaoffline -d /home/neenaoffline/Stuff/hostedfiles/neenaoffline/
[02:20] <spinz8r> what is the recommended method to uninstall ubuntu on osx? thanks.
[02:20] <schnepfi__> the external soundcard i*m using is creative soundblaster 2 bit
[02:21] <schnepfi__> 24 bit
[02:22] <bimberi> spinz8r: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/PowerPC
[02:22] <magus_x> ubuntu comes with svn command?] 
[02:22] <sam_> anyone know anything about compiz
[02:22] <Hyperpenguin> Kind of.
[02:22] <spinz8r> tks sir
[02:22] <ian1> I'm having issues with installing Ubuntu on a Dell Dimension 8100 (P4 1.4)...Something to do SMP (which I have no clue about).  Is there a place to DL an iso specific to P4's?
[02:23] <magus_x> ubuntu comes with svn command?] 
[02:23] <bimberi> magus_x: not by default, install the "subversion" package
[02:23] <loko555> somebody know if there will be a updated sun java in the repos?
[02:23] <ian1> Also saw some issue with something called MP tables in the error message.
[02:23] <Hyperpenguin> Also, sam_, there's a #ubuntu-xgl channel, I believe.
[02:23] <jrib> magus_x: install the 'subversion' package
[02:23] <jrib> bah, too slow
[02:24] <magus_x> yeah, im seeing here
[02:24] <sam_> ok I will check there thanks
[02:24] <loko555> cause 1.5.0-6 has some bugs
[02:24] <foo-knoppix> Ok, I mounted this drive fine under knoppix. What gives?
[02:25] <ian1> !smp
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <Hyperpenguin> What's going wrong wit it?
[02:25] <Gu1> Next prob... segmentation fault with modprobe
[02:25] <Hyperpenguin> foo-knoppix, what problem do you have when mounting?
[02:26] <foo-knoppix> Hyperpenguin: I can mount /dev/hdd /folder in knoppix, but not in ubuntu server 6.06. It has to be a bug.
[02:26] <Hyperpenguin> Not too sure, really.
[02:26] <SystemBomber> Hey Guys, Having a problem installing Guifications for Gaim 2 Beta 3. If I install through synaptic, When I try to load the plugin, all it says is: "ABI Version Mismatch 1.5.x (need 2.0.x)"
[02:26] <ardchoille> Hyperpenguin: He seems to have mounted a hdd that doesn't have any partitions
[02:26] <neutrinomass> Gu1: That sounds serious. Can you get a backtrace of it by following http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash ?
[02:26] <schnepfi__> im using a laptop and ubuntu. but i would like to use my external soundcard. but if i select my external soundcard nothing changes and the music keep on playing on my internal soundcard, and i dont know the reason for this,info: my external soundcarrd is creative soundblaster 24 bit
[02:27] <jrib> SystemBomber: the guifications package in the repositories won't work with gaim 2 beta 3,  http://guifications.sourceforge.net/ has a new version of guifications that should work though.  I believe you will have to compile it yourself
[02:28] <SystemBomber> jrib, I have tried compiling it, I keep getting an error when I do: ./configure because it can't find gaim
[02:29] <SystemBomber> Btw i install gaim 2 beta 3 using automatix
[02:29] <Hyperpenguin> Hey, can I ask something very noobish? Is there any way, with some Linux partitioning command, to resize a partition and make three more *without* losing all of my data?
[02:29] <jrib> SystemBomber: have you installed the gaim-dev package?
[02:29] <Hyperpenguin> Linux partitions, that is
[02:29] <SystemBomber> one sec
[02:29] <magus_> Hyperpenguin, : Gparted
[02:29] <Hyperpenguin> Ah, thanks.
[02:29] <magus_> you can resize partitions
[02:29] <niruana> hi all, is there anyone who uses the MadWiFi drivers?
[02:30] <schnepfi__> im using a laptop and ubuntu. but i would like to use my external soundcard. but if i select my external soundcard nothing changes and the music keep on playing on my internal soundcard, and i dont know the reason for this,info: my external soundcarrd is creative soundblaster 24 bit
[02:30] <SystemBomber> jrib,  No i havnt, its installing now
[02:30] <magus_> Hyperpenguin, : i used it to resize my ntfs partition :)
[02:30] <Hyperpenguin> Yay. Well, thanks. After I repartition, Ubuntu tine! :D
[02:30] <Hyperpenguin> Gentoo was getting a bit... annoying
[02:30] <Hyperpenguin> lol
[02:30] <SystemBomber> jrib
[02:30] <SystemBomber> thanks :)
[02:31] <jrib> SystemBomber: np
[02:31] <schnepfi__> ive got a problem with my external soundcard. it doenst play music. if i play a song it is played on my internal soundcard, whats the eason for this.....PLEASE HELP ME
[02:31] <niruana> !madwifi
[02:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:33] <SystemBomber> Also, can anyone help me with getting themes to install, and work with Xgl please
[02:34] <Hyperpenguin> One more dumb question. I currently have the usual "swap, data, boot" partition layout, can I simply put in a new data partition in and have ubuntu be able to use the same swap and boot partitions without borking?
[02:34] <noona> hello, can i restore a formatted drive (QUICK NTFS) using a linux OS?
[02:34] <Hyperpenguin> SystemBomber, #ubuntu-xgl
[02:34] <SystemBomber> cheers
[02:34] <Shinzetsu> noona: you can backup your ntfs files, yes
[02:34] <noona> no  i wanna restore them after a format
[02:35] <noona> i wanna restore a formatted drive
[02:35] <Shinzetsu> noona: format deletes everything
[02:35] <Shinzetsu> nonoa: inreversible, sorry
[02:35] <noona> are you sure?
[02:35] <Hyperpenguin> Generally, that's true.
[02:35] <erUSUL> Hyperpenguin: swap def. yes, with the boot partition i do not know maybe ubuntu trys to format it
[02:35] <Shinzetsu> noona: once you format, theres no way of getting your files back, unless you backed them up elsewhere
[02:36] <Hyperpenguin> Okay, I'll make a new boot partition and tell GRUB to use that when booting Ubuntu.
[02:36] <noona> what about these programme that claim capable of recovering files?
[02:36] <noona> after a format
[02:36] <Shinzetsu> noona: fake
[02:36] <Nameeater> thats not true
[02:36] <Shinzetsu> noona: you can get stuff back from recycle bin
[02:36] <Nameeater> depends what kind of format :)
[02:36] <Shinzetsu> Nameater: ntfs <_<
[02:36] <noona> QUICK
[02:36] <ardchoille> noona: Those are forensic data tools.. even those have no guarantee of recovering anything
[02:37] <Nameeater> oh
[02:37] <Nameeater> probably true :)
[02:37] <noona> it took it like 5 seconds using windows xp cd
[02:37] <Shinzetsu> nooona: yep
[02:37] <erUSUL> noona: you can try a specialiced and expensive data recovery company if the data is worth it. google around for some specialiced app too
[02:37] <Shinzetsu> noona: cant guarantee anything, its basicly based on luck =p
[02:37] <noona> na, i want free software
[02:37] <adhom> Guys how do I configure my ADSL modem router netgear on ubuntu? This is the only reason I didnt install it yet.
[02:38] <Shinzetsu> hehe
[02:38] <Shinzetsu> noona: sorry to say, but youre screwed then
[02:38] <Hyperpenguin> Does it have a web interface?
[02:38] <Shinzetsu> noona: why did you format anyway?
[02:39] <neenaoffline> Why does'nt this work ?
[02:39] <noona> because i wanted to install ubuntu
[02:39] <ino> Hi from Italy
[02:39] <neenaoffline> thttpd -p 53446 -l /home/neenaoffline/Stuff/hostedfiles/nothosted/neenaoffline -d /home/neenaoffline/Stuff/hostedfiles/neenaoffline/
[02:39] <noona> i had windows xp on the main drive
[02:39] <Shinzetsu> noona: only windows uses ntfs
[02:39] <noona> i told the parition utility to use the free space on the other parition
[02:39] <Shinzetsu> noona: you should have used the live cd to back your stuff up, then format with ubuntu
[02:39] <ardchoille> noona: The Ubuntu installer would have taken care of the formatting for you
[02:40] <Shinzetsu> afk
[02:40] <noona> but i told it to manipulate the other drive
[02:40] <noona> not the one that has xp on it
[02:41] <foomonkey> I want to install the text mode version of emacs but I want to leave the X version installed also. When I select emacs-nox in synaptic, it tells me it has to uninstall the X version. Is this true? Are they mutually exclusive?
[02:42] <jrib> foomonkey: I think the x version installs the cli version as well, does 'emacs' in a terminal not work?
[02:43] <ino> Sorry... I'm a newbye wirh Ubuntu.... I need an help for AVI codec. Where could I find them?
[02:43] <ardchoille> jrib: He'll probably get: bash: emacs: command not found  'tis what I got
[02:43] <jrib> !avi > ino
[02:43] <foomonkey> well, yes it does.... duh! I should have tried that first
[02:44] <foomonkey> sorry
[02:44] <ardchoille> I'm guessing that Ubuntu ships without emacs
[02:44] <foo-knoppix> ardchoille: hey, there you are.
[02:44] <ardchoille> Oh well, emacs is a nice OS.. hopefully someone will code a nice editor for it someday, lol
[02:44] <foo-knoppix> ardchoille: It mounted fine under knoppix. It's a ubuntu bug, it has to be
[02:45] <foomonkey> what is funny is that if I am jus in a terminal on the local machine (with X), it starts up the X version of emacs
[02:45] <santa99> can anybody here explain me how to get surround sound out of my external usb card
[02:45] <foomonkey> but if I'm in an ssh session remotely, and type emacs, I get the terminal version
[02:45] <ardchoille> foo-knoppix: in Ubuntu, you cannot mount a drive which has no partitions. I am guessing the eother debian based systems do something to allow you to mount a partitionless drive or there is at least one partition on that drive.
[02:45] <britishseapower> any clues as to why my load averages don't seem to drop below 1.0 ?
[02:46] <britishseapower> 13:46:09 up 30 min,  2 users,  load average: 1.00, 1.00, 0.86
[02:46] <foo-knoppix> ardchoille: It worked fine under knoppix. Don't see why it wouldn't in ubuntu.
[02:46] <Goose1d> Hello all.  I've having some serious latency and packetloss issues on my Ubuntu server.  I think it may be the ethernet driver.  Under low/no load I am 0ms to my router on the same ethernet switch.  Once I fire up squid my latency jumps to 150ms and my packetloss to 7%
[02:47] <Goose1d> Here is the output of dmesg:
[02:47] <Goose1d> eth0: Tigon3 [partno(BCM95721) rev 4101 PHY(5750)]  (PCI Express) 10/100/1000BaseT Ethernet 00:a0:d1:e4:5b:f2
[02:47] <Goose1d> [   57.378204]  eth0: RXcsums[1]  LinkChgREG[0]  MIirq[0]  ASF[1]  Split[0]  WireSpeed[1]  TSOcap[1] 
[02:47] <Goose1d> [   57.378207]  eth0: dma_rwctrl[76180000] 
[02:47] <Goose1d> any ideas on what is causing iT?
[02:47] <Hyperpenguin> Gooseld, any problems with other machines on the network?
[02:47] <ardchoille> foo-knoppix: talk to the ubuntu devs and ask them why Ubuntu won't mount a drive that has no partitions on it?
[02:48] <Hyperpenguin> lol
[02:48] <foo-knoppix> ardchoille: Any in here?
[02:48] <Goose1d> No, other machines are fine
[02:48] <viper550> Hello!
[02:48] <Goose1d> In fact I have another squid running FC4, will retest it, one sec
[02:49] <Subhuman> !dev
[02:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <Whyvas> ardchoille, you mount a partition, not a drive
[02:49] <foo-knoppix> Whyvas: You a dev?
[02:49] <ardchoille> Whyvas: I know that. foo-knoppix says he has mounted a drive that has no paritions
[02:50] <Goose1d> HyperP: Other machine is fine
[02:50] <Whyvas> foo-knoppix doesn't know anything
[02:50] <Rookie-> might be /dev/unit /mountpoint
[02:50] <Nooster> hello
[02:50] <foo-knoppix> Whyvas: err, who are you to make that assumption? I did mount /dev/hdd /dir in knoppix and it worked
[02:50] <Nooster> i installed ubuntu for my dad
[02:50] <Nooster> using my monitor
[02:50] <foo-knoppix> Whyvas: In ubuntu, it does not.
[02:50] <Goose1d> Chipset looks the same :
[02:50] <Goose1d> [root@webcache2 ~] # dmesg | grep eth0
[02:50] <Goose1d> eth0: Tigon3 [partno(BCM95721) rev 4001 PHY(5750)]  (PCIX:100MHz:32-bit) 10/100/1000BaseT Ethernet 00:11:09:bc:c3:e2
[02:50] <Goose1d> eth0: RXcsums[1]  LinkChgREG[0]  MIirq[0]  ASF[1]  Split[0]  WireSpeed[1]  TSOcap[1] 
[02:50] <Goose1d> tg3: eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full duplex.
[02:50] <Goose1d> tg3: eth0: Flow control is off for TX and off for RX.
[02:50] <Nooster> he went home and plugged his box into his monitor
[02:50] <Nooster> now the screen blanks whenever ubuntu tries to load
[02:50] <Nooster> what is the solution?
[02:51] <ardchoille> foo-knoppix: Then there is at least one partition on that drive for that to work.
[02:51] <Whyvas> foo-knoppix, you don't mount drives... you mount partitions, you can see the drive but it's not mounted
[02:51] <munsa> Hello, does anyone know anything about XGL?
[02:51] <xice> munsa, try #ubuntu-xgl
[02:51] <Whyvas> foo-knoppix, then /dev/hdd must be an optical drive
[02:51] <ardchoille> munsa: /join #ubuntu-xgl
[02:51] <foo-knoppix> Whyvas: I did what I said I did, and I see 150k files in the /dir I mounted /dev/hdd on. I don't know what you want me to tell you, other than I am saying what I saw.
[02:52] <farous> hi are there any tools that will spin down an external usb hard drive when it is idle. something similar to laptop-tools
[02:53] <Whyvas> foo-knoppix, is /dev/hdd an optical drive?
[02:54] <foo-knoppix> Whyvas: ide.
[02:54] <elmato> Is there any rsync guru's in here? My Dad is heading off to antarctica for 18months shortly and Im trying to make a local copy of the dapper repositories for him to take along. Was hoping someone might have some nifty script or something that will exclude all the non i386 stuff etc.
[02:54] <Whyvas> foo-knoppix, yes, an ide optical drive...
[02:54] <foo-knoppix> Whyvas: uh, it's an ata drive.. don't know what you mean by optical.
[02:54] <ardchoille> foo-knoppix: CD/DVD drive?
[02:54] <Whyvas> a cdrom. dvdrom, burner any of those
[02:55] <foo-knoppix> ohh, my bad. No, it's a hard drive.
[02:55] <munsa> Anyone ever had a wierd problem with Evolution? It is poping up like a thousand different instances of itself I dont know what is up.
[02:55] <Shinzetsu> I installed qc-usb-source for my webcam (.deb) but...how do I compile it? I know how to compile but where is it?
[02:56] <farous> Shinzetsu: the cam work out of the box
[02:56] <Shinzetsu> mine doesnt..
[02:56] <Skippy> do you know what is gdm
[02:56] <ardchoille> foo-knoppix: How many partitions are on that drive?
[02:56] <Shinzetsu> Skippy: GNOME Display Manager
[02:56] <foo-knoppix> ardchoille: I didn't think there was any. fdisk -l shows hdd1 . but I mount with /dev/hdd
[02:56] <neenaoffline> Skippy: ^
[02:56] <Skippy> is it desktop we see or is it somewhere else
[02:57] <farous> Shinzetsu: to test try lsmod |grep quickcam
[02:57] <Hyperpenguin> foo-knoppix, does mounting /dev/hdd1 work?
[02:57] <Shinzetsu> Skippy: Its the GNOME desktop yes
[02:57] <neenaoffline> Skippy: it's the thing you see while logging on
[02:57] <neenaoffline> Shinzetsu: No !
[02:57] <foo-knoppix> Hyperpenguin: I didn't try in knoppix.. but under ubuntu, no.
[02:57] <Skippy> thanks a lot
[02:57] <neenaoffline> oh sorry , yes
[02:57] <ardchoille> foo-knoppix: That is a partition (hdd1) it's the first partition on that drive. You have to have at least one partition in order to mount a drive.
[02:57] <Hyperpenguin> Hmm. That's really strange,
[02:57] <jnvilo> anybody did an update on xorg and broke xlg?
[02:57] <foo-knoppix> Whatever. I think it's a bug.
[02:57] <Shinzetsu> farous: "quickcam               78372  0" ?
[02:58] <foo-knoppix> mount /dev/hdd /dir works in knoppix, but not in ubuntu .. on the same box.
[02:58] <foo-knoppix> Simple as that.
[02:58] <farous> Shinzetsu: see the module is already loaded
[02:58] <Nooster> Hello, i'm having a problem with ubuntu. When X starts during bootup, the screen blanks
[02:58] <Shinzetsu> hm
[02:58] <crayzee> HW question: Is it OK to mix DDR266 with DDR400 memory?
[02:58] <Nooster> does anyone have any suggestions?
[02:58] <Nooster> the screen then turns off
[02:58] <Shinzetsu> Nooster: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:58] <farous> Shinzetsu: install camorama and you will se if your cam is working
[02:58] <Shinzetsu> Nooster: choose vesa when you get a list of drivers
[02:58] <Nooster> where do i type that
[02:58] <Shinzetsu> farous: okay will try hang on
[02:58] <Nooster> ?
[02:59] <ardchoille> foo-knoppix: try sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mountpoint in Ubuntu .. I bet it works.
[02:59] <Shinzetsu> Nooster; Terminal
[02:59] <Nooster> how do i get to that?
[02:59] <Nooster> i can't get to the desktop
[02:59] <munsa> Noone here knows anything about XGL?
[02:59] <Shinzetsu> Nooster: boot into recovery mode
[02:59] <BeepAU> hey everyone, i'm new to linux, can anyone help me install the file needed to export mp3s on audacity?
[02:59] <foo-knoppix> ardchoille: heh, I spent 3 hours trying to get it to work. If it was that simple I would have gotten it :P
[02:59] <Shinzetsu> Nooster: press Esc when GRUB boots up
[02:59] <crayzee> Nooster: control-alt-F1
[02:59] <david__> is there a partition editor that can do on the fly editing and not lose data?
[02:59] <Nooster> oh ok awesome
[02:59] <jnvilo> munsa: i got xgl working last night
[02:59] <Nooster> thanks
[02:59] <Nooster> i'll try it
[02:59] <Hyperpenguin> david__, Gparted
[02:59] <munsa> really?
[02:59] <Shinzetsu> farous: unable to capture image
[02:59] <Hyperpenguin> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[02:59] <david__> is that like partition magic?
[03:00] <munsa> jnvilo, I just installed it ( or thought I installed it)
[03:00] <Hyperpenguin> Kind of.
[03:00] <munsa> but its not working
[03:00] <david__> cool
[03:00] <jnvilo> munsa: on dapper yes with nvidia
[03:00] <Shinzetsu> Nooster:
[03:00] <david__> thanx
[03:00] <crayzee> david__, Gparted, assuming you arent using the partitions you are changing.
[03:00] <farous> Shinzetsu: ls /dev/video0
[03:00] <Shinzetsu> Nooster: you still here?
[03:00] <munsa> and i got a wierd screen at the gnome login
[03:00] <Nooster> yeop
[03:00] <Nooster> yep
[03:00] <Nooster> it's on another computer
[03:00] <Nooster> my dads
[03:00] <ardchoille> foo-knoppix: If sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mountpoint doesn't work in Ubuntu, then something is wrong with your install. You mount partitions (hdd1) not drives.
[03:00] <Shinzetsu> Nooster: if it doesnt work, you can go on IRC in the console
[03:00] <Hyperpenguin> Actually, there's a Gparted livecd and liveUSB
[03:00] <Nooster> i will remain on irc
[03:00] <Nooster> thanks for the thought
[03:00] <Shinzetsu> Nooster: use 'irssi -c irc.freenode.net -n Nooster'
[03:00] <jnvilo> munsa: then i did an update on the distro, nw it won't load nvidia.. i am wonderng if anyone has had this problem
[03:00] <Shinzetsu> Nooster: ah okay
[03:00] <munsa> jnvilo  and the last step I got was to reboot, when I rebooted I got this wierd text screen telling me that  GDM was wrong, and it could not located Xserver, then I got a Gnome login  screen and not the usual ubuntu screen and then it let me loging... dunno what happened
[03:00] <Nooster> that's cool of you
[03:00] <Nooster> :)
[03:00] <BeepAU> hey everyone, i'm new to linux, can anyone help me install the file needed to export mp3s on audacity?
[03:00] <crayzee> david__, Yes, Gparted is very similar to partition magic. I would recommend running it off of a live CD (such as the Ubuntu 6.06-desktop CD) rather than on a live system.
[03:00] <Shinzetsu> Nooster: : - )
[03:01] <ardchoille> foo-knoppix: open a term in that livecd and type mount. Is hdd mounted or is it hdd1 ?
[03:01] <Shinzetsu> farous: I see /dev/video0 with a black background and yellow letters
[03:01] <david__> alright thanx
[03:01] <jnvilo> munsa: after reboot you have to run a few things to get compiz to load otherwise you won't see any difference
[03:01] <david__> I downloaded freespire last night, anyone have any thoughts on it? I was thinking of tryibng it out
[03:02] <Hyperpenguin> Well, I'm off to Ubuntuify my machine. See ya!
[03:02] <ian1> Anyone ever heard of having trouble installing Ubuntu on a Pentiun 4 1.4?  It's a Dell Dimension 8100.  I keep getting errors about SMP and MP tables.  I haven't the slightest where to go from here..
[03:02] <jnvilo> munsa: something like: gnome-window-decorator &  compiz --replace gconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place switcher &
[03:02] <munsa> yea
[03:02] <neutrinomass> david__: That really belongs to #ubuntu-offtopic, this is a support channel ...
[03:02] <Shinzetsu> farous: :\
[03:02] <david__> sorry...
[03:02] <munsa> jnvilo how do I run those? it says that I have to do this in the thing
[03:02] <erUSUL> ian1: try booting with acpi=off
[03:02] <munsa> how do I do those last commands?
[03:03] <ian1> erUSUL, I have no idea how to accomplish that.
[03:03] <foo-knoppix> ardchoille: heh, look, I'm not going to argue with you. I am telling you what I have done, not what I think. Yes, I know you typically mount partitions, I mount the device. I made the device have no partitions and just a filesystem ... bad idea. But you can do it, I've done it. And it is mounted as hdd, as I've already told you.
[03:03] <jnvilo> munsa: login as you did and open a terminal and run it there
[03:03] <ian1> erUSUL, I'm using a live-cd
[03:04] <Shinzetsu> ian1: theres an option somewhere when you boot up, an F-key
[03:04] <Ackeubu_> Hey i try to run tremulus-server at port Sending heartbeat to master.tremulous.net
[03:04] <Shinzetsu> ian1: you can type acpi=off or another command an dthen boot
[03:04] <ardchoille> foo-knoppix: Ok, I don't think you nderstand how drives/partitions/file systems work. Thanks for the info, though.
[03:04] <munsa> jnvilo yea but i put gnome-window-decorator in the terminal and I get nothing.
[03:04] <munsa> command not found
[03:05] <ian1> Shinzetsu, Danke, rebooting (froze) and will try that.  Do you know what MP tables or SMP are?
[03:05] <Ackeubu_> im trying to run tremulous server i have set my router to forward to the correct port on the correct laptop. however I need to know if i need to open anny ports on my linux laptop to allow the server to run?
[03:05] <foo-knoppix> ardchoille: I know how they work, I made the partition wrong... I see what you're saying, though, it's just the wrong way I made the partition.
[03:05] <jnvilo> munsa: then you must have missed some install steps
[03:05] <munsa> jnvilo what install manual did you use?
[03:06] <jnvilo> munsa: i'll brb with the link
[03:06] <munsa> ok thanks
[03:06] <mwe> !xgl
[03:06] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:06] <erUSUL> ian1: when you boot with the live cd you can see for a moment a promt that is 'boot:' just type acpi=off and hit enter. 'boot: acpi=off <enter>'
[03:06] <Snakehit> Hellow, Somebody here with experience to install Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945A... I have read a lot of things but non of them are me getting on the right way. lspci -v | less doesnt show my wireless device... Somebody have a Idea?
[03:07] <Nightattack> I've been trying to get my ati drivers working for a while now, i think it tried almost everything that is written on the forums but it still doesn't work( i keep getting mesa info on fglrxinfo ), can anyone help me with that please?
[03:07] <jnvilo> munsa: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[03:07] <mrDaniel> how I can set firefox to use mplayer for streaming-media instead of using totem?
[03:07] <Seveas> mrDaniel, remove the totem web browser plugin
[03:07] <munsa> jnvilo - thanks,
[03:08] <Ackeubu_> is ubuntu running any firewalls?
[03:08] <Ackeubu_> by default?
[03:08] <jnvilo> munsa: be warned though, after an hour of me playing with it, i did an apt-get update and it broke after the kernel upgrade, or dunno if it was the xorg update
[03:08] <neenaoffline> Ackeubu_: no
[03:08] <Baltazar^2> (Ackeubu_: apt-get install firestarter
[03:09] <Shinzetsu> I cant seem to install my webcam
[03:09] <jnvilo> I am wondering if anyone has experienced it on dapper, after ninstall i updated dapper just like i would on debian and X no longer finds the nvidia driver
[03:09] <munsa> jnvilo - is it worth it?
[03:09] <ian1> Ackeubu_, That's "Sudo apt-get install firestarter"
[03:09] <jnvilo> munsa: worth it what? the xgl? or the update?
[03:10] <munsa> jnvilo xgl is it worth the time and effort to install and play with or is it just some eyecandy that is cool for an hour but then never again useful?
[03:10] <Warbo> How can I use xrandr to use my 1280x1024 settings on a 1024x768 monitor? I remember it was done automatically when I switched my HD between two similar graphics cards, but now I am switching between an ATI and an Nvidia
[03:10] <Gros|wx> hi all
[03:12] <Lattyware> Hey all, anyone know of an alternative to SpeedFan?
[03:12] <ian1> !pastebin
[03:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:12] <Lattyware> (AKA: A fan speed controll app)
[03:12] <Ackeubu_> neenaoffline: Baltazar^2: ian1: so then i should be fine if i set up a tremulous server on port 37020 and portforward that through my router to my 192.168.0.3 laptop?
[03:12] <jnvilo> munsa - well it depends, it surely is more than just eyecandy, i found it much easier to declutter my desk and move around workspaces
[03:12] <munsa> cool
[03:13] <orasis1> Does anyone know of an audio editor for Linux that can do mix pasting (overlap audio files), like Sound forge, and Cool edit on windows can?
[03:13] <Warbo> I don't like XGL/Compiz. I find that I miss too many features of E16 (like really thin borders, for instance)
[03:13] <Warbo> !info audacity
[03:13] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1842 kB, installed size 5460 kB
[03:14] <Shinzetsu> camorama wont see it
[03:14] <ian1> Bloody he...er, heck.  Ok, when trying to boot from live cd (which also contains my installation) I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20447
[03:14] <cappiz> how can i disable all ICMP ?
[03:14] <jnvilo> orsisl: there is ardour which is realy cool
[03:14] <ian1> Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I've been working on this all night and can't figure it out.
[03:14] <Warbo> Anyone know about xrandr?
[03:15] <bXi> is it possible to use /dev/input/js0 on another machine?
[03:15] <zool2005> I keep asking here about gdmflexiserver in the hope that someone will be able to help me with my problem. I can't use the new login feature as I am automatically returned to a locked screen no matter which new user I select. Have I not set something up correctly?
[03:15] <orasis1> Ubotu, yeah it does everything "except" allow overlap audio,, you can only paste normally, so doesnt help much if you want to make songs with it
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yeah it does everything "except" allow overlap audio,, you can only paste normally, so doesnt help much if you want to make songs with it - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:16] <Warbo> !ubotu
[03:16] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:16] <orasis1> jnv, Ardour compiles on Ubuntu? :D
[03:16] <orasis1> I have been looking at Ardour, looks very nice.. can you mix paste overlap auidio?
[03:16] <Lattyware> So, anyone know of a Linux fan speed controlling app?
[03:16] <pdamoc> hello... is there a channel dedicated to helping people install Ubuntu?
[03:17] <pdamoc> I'm having some troubles
[03:17] <ian1> Help with live cd install.  Error pasted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20447
[03:17] <jnvilo> orasisl: actually have not tried it, i have it on my FC5
[03:17] <Warbo> Lattyware: Er.... Variable resistor? :)
[03:17] <Lattyware> heh. I'm looking for somthing like SpeedFan, but that's a windows app.
[03:17] <ardchoille> Warbo: lol
[03:17] <orasis1> jnvillo, OK well I guess I will give it a shot... if not its back to windows :( - That is the only reason I never stay on Linux that long, I love it for everything else ... but it's audio software selection .. sucks :(
[03:17] <jnvilo> orasisl: i just did an apt-cache search ardour and it seems there are packages for it
[03:18] <orasis1> nice
[03:20] <elmato> have you tried Gkrellm Lattyware ?
[03:20] <Lattyware> nope, link?
[03:20] <orasis1> jnvillo, you are right - it is also in Synaptic
[03:20] <pdamoc> anyone?
[03:20] <ian1> Help with live cd install.  Error pasted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20447
[03:20] <jnvilo> anybody know the difference between synaptic and apt?
[03:20] <penguin42> pdamoc: What's the problem you are having?
[03:20] <Baltazar^2> pdamoc: Problem ?
[03:20] <elmato> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GKrellM
[03:20] <pdamoc> The only resolution recognized is 640x480
[03:20] <Baltazar^2> pdamoc: U have to setup monitor
[03:20] <ian1> penguin42, As far as I know Sybaptic is just the GUI for apt.
[03:20] <ardchoille> jnvilo: Synaptic is a gui front end for apt
[03:20] <orasis1> Jnvilo, I think Synaptic is a GUI for apt
[03:20] <penguin42> ian1: Does it stop there or is it the lack of SMP that is the question?
[03:21] <Baltazar^2> pdamoc: U follow ?
[03:21] <pdamoc> how do I setup my monitor?
[03:21] <ian1> penguin42, After a bit it seems to try to boot still but fails soon after.  No other error messages.
[03:21] <orasis1> Pda, what video card do you have?
[03:21] <Baltazar^2> pdamoc: Better yet, what graphics card you use ?
[03:21] <pdamoc> nforce2 cipset
[03:21] <pdamoc> integrated
[03:22] <f7al> what's the best strategy game ?
[03:22] <mypapit> tea, earl grey, hot
[03:22] <pdamoc> GForce 4 MX
[03:22] <Lattyware> elmato: Thanks, I'll check it out
[03:22] <jnvilo> pdamoc: have you tried choosing the nv driver?
[03:22] <penguin42> ian1: are there any BIOS options about the MPI table (something like that?) ?
[03:22] <mwe> f7al: what's the best beer?
[03:22] <pdamoc> jnvilo: how?
[03:23] <orasis1> Edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[03:23] <penguin42> ian1: Also if you can try booting with noapic perhaps it might be worth it if that is what it is getting confused by
[03:23] <elmato> Lattyware : np, Its pretty slick... has a lot of 3rd party plugins made for it too
[03:23] <ian1> penguin42, I don't remember seeing any, but I'm rechecking now to be certain.
[03:23] <orasis1> In "device section" - pick another driver, I have no idea what it is for NV gforce however I am on radeon
[03:23] <jnvilo> for NV gforce, it is nv
[03:24] <ian1> penguin42, Is it acip, apic, or acpi?  I just tried one of them...
[03:24] <noob> !botsnack
[03:24] <ubotu> Yum!
[03:24] <Lattyware> elmato: Cool, sounds good.
[03:24] <pdamoc> this is what I was afraid of :)
[03:24] <elmargol> isn't it a bit strange that postfix depends on emacs?
[03:24] <penguin42> ian1: I'd go with noapic
[03:24] <pdamoc> ok... I'll give it a try
[03:24] <orasis1> Alright so pda, nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf - scroll to "device" section - replace whatever it says with "nv" and ctrl-alt-backspace, to restart X
[03:24] <mwe> elmargol: I dont think it does. are you sure?
[03:25] <elmargol> mwe: if i do aptitude install postfix it does. if i do apt-get install don't
[03:25] <orasis1> Or you could use "mousepad" to edit it also
[03:25] <jnvilo> pdamoc you might want to update your resolution too while you're at it
[03:25] <mwe> elmargol: it's unrelated. check apt-cache show postfix and you'll see
[03:25] <Nooster> hey shinzetsu: thanks for your help
[03:25] <Nooster> it worked
[03:25] <orasis1> Pda, have you tryed changing your res from inside X?
[03:25] <Nooster> my dad sends his thanks
[03:25] <noob> any atheros friends here who heard of the new wep decrypt method? it is called wesside and you can get the source here: http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/a.bittau/frag-0.1.tgz . but it is for bsd and i can't compile it.
[03:25] <Shinzetsu> Nooster: anytime mate
[03:25] <Snakehit> How do you update youre kernel
[03:26] <orasis1> "Start" -> settings -> display settings
[03:26] <Shinzetsu> Nooster: what graphics card are you using?
[03:26] <noob> !botsnack
[03:26] <ian1> penguin42, So "noapic" is the command?  I tried "acpi=off" with no success.
[03:26] <ubotu> Yum!
[03:26] <mwe> elmargol: what happens if you type just sudo aptitude install?
[03:26] <elmargol> mwe: nothing
[03:26] <penguin42> ian1: noapic on the kernel boot line I believed - acpi!=apic
[03:26] <pdamoc> I'm back.... the driver is already nv
[03:27] <mwe> elmargol: well I dont know why it wants to get emacs. it's not a dependency of postfix
[03:27] <ian1> penguin42, So wait, it's "acpi!=apic"?
[03:27] <orasis1> mwe, You download the whole multiverse,universe and every Linux pack ever made - your hard drive frys and you cry for days without end. :D
[03:27] <mwe> orasis1: huh?
[03:27] <penguin42> ian1: No, sorry; use 'noapic'   I just meant apic is not the same as acpi
[03:27] <pdamoc> and... the monitor is detected correctly
[03:27] <orasis1> Pda
[03:27] <mwe> orasis1: I have no intention of doing that. what makes you say that?
[03:27] <ian1> penguin42, Tried "noapic" and it didn't work.
[03:27] <Shinzetsu> can anyone help me with my cam?
[03:27] <orasis1> Start -> settings -> display settings (try changing res from there )
[03:27] <elmargol> well postfix recommends mail reader...
[03:27] <Hyperpenguin> Hi again!
[03:28] <elmargol> and emacs provides an mail reader :D
[03:28] <penguin42> ian1: Tell me about your hardware
[03:28] <Hyperpenguin> Glee!
[03:28] <elmargol> who on hell do I need a mail reader on a mailserver?
[03:28] <mwe> elmargol: ok you have aptitude set up to automatically install recommended packages
[03:28] <ian1> penguin42, Dell Dimension 8100 w/P4 1.4 and 384 of RIMM
[03:28] <penguin42> elmargol: To spy on the users
[03:28] <elmargol> mwe: i use the default install
[03:28] <penguin42> ian1: So this is a single CPU box?
[03:28] <pdamoc> what should I try?
[03:29] <ian1> penguin42, I believe so.
[03:29] <mwe> elmargol: yeah. you can turn it off if you like.
[03:29] <orasis1> Pda, what did you have set in windows? - use the same
[03:29] <noob> anyone able to compile this?
[03:29] <noob> http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/a.bittau/frag-0.1.tgz
[03:29] <orasis1> Try 1024x768
[03:29] <elmargol> mwe: oh nice. i think this should be disabled by default
[03:29] <Snakehit> How do you update youre kernel? Plz
[03:29] <mwe> elmargol: probably, yes
[03:29] <Snakehit> -e
[03:30] <pdamoc> I only have 680x480 in screen resolution
[03:30] <mwe> elmargol: file a bug report
[03:30] <gsuveg> re
[03:30] <gnomefreak> Snakehit: what kernel do you have now?
[03:30] <orasis1> Pda, no other options at all?
[03:30] <Snakehit> i want to install the drivers of my wnic
[03:30] <pdamoc> even if in xorg.conf the monitor shows all the resolutions
[03:30] <Snakehit> and they say update your kernel
[03:31] <orasis1> Pda, it could be because your card .. is "intergrated"... intergrated chipsets.. are lombotomized \
[03:31] <Snakehit> I have no idea what kernel i have now
[03:31] <ardchoille> Snakehit: open a term and do uname -r
[03:31] <elmargol> mwe: Yes i fill one later
[03:31] <jnvilo> pdamoc: did you install the proper driver now? i.e. using the nv?
[03:31] <Snakehit> 2.6.15-26-386
[03:31] <bXi> is it possible to use /dev/input/js0 on another machine?
[03:31] <penguin42> ian1: Hmm this is from the dapper live CD?
[03:31] <pdamoc> it says nv in the driver section
[03:31] <Snakehit> the kernel i download is newer
[03:31] <ian1> penguin42, Sure is.
[03:32] <orasis1> Pda, I think it is because it is a onboard video card.. some of those do have probs with LInux..
[03:32] <penguin42> ian1: There is a 'safe' option isn't there? I assume that doesn't help?
[03:32] <ian1> penguin42, Safe option?
[03:32] <mwe> Snakehit: uname -r
[03:32] <Hyperpenguin> Will Ubuntu like it if I give it a ext2 boot partition, a shared 512 MB swap partition, and a 80GB or so ext3 partition?
[03:32] <ian1> penguin42, Is that an fkey option?
[03:32] <pdamoc> ora: it might be but what can I do?
[03:32] <penguin42> ian1: On the menu that comes up during boot there is a normal boot, a safe boot and a memtest isn't there?
[03:32] <Snakehit> i did mwe
[03:32] <orasis1> If in start -> settings -> display settings, you have no more res then 640x480 - your really going to have to do some hacking with your config files, maybe find another driver ....
[03:32] <Snakehit> i need to update him
[03:32] <Panos> Hello Guys
[03:33] <orasis1> Pda, get a real video card.. :P
[03:33] <jnvilo> orasisl: i have same card on my laptop here
[03:33] <Panos> What's up ?
[03:33] <ardchoille> mwe:  < Snakehit> 2.6.15-26-386
[03:33] <ian1> penguin42, One sec, this thing takes forever to reboot.
[03:33] <phuzz> if i link a dir to a users home dir the files in the link wont have the home dirs perms right?
[03:33] <orasis1> Onboard video.. are kind of like onboard modems you need the software to supply certain things it was built without, and this may be why Linux does not go well with it
[03:33] <Snakehit> the one i downloaded is : patch-2.6.17.8
[03:33] <mwe> Snakehit: well that's your running kernel. what makes you think you should be running a newer one?
[03:33] <jnvilo> pdamoc: how about your devide section? have you updated it to the resolution that you want?
[03:34] <penguin42> ian1: Hehe ok
[03:34] <Snakehit> the readme file says it :|
[03:34] <noob> i would be so greatful if anybody could help me compiling this: http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/a.bittau/frag-0.1.tgz
[03:34] <Panos> May I ask sth ?
[03:34] <pdamoc> can I install Ubuntu in text mode?
[03:34] <ian1> penguin42, Safe graphics mode
[03:34] <ian1> penguin42, ?
[03:35] <u-sun> hello, for dapper, how do you update the "dapper-extras' repository?
[03:35] <penguin42> ian1: Ah is it just graphic? Might be worth a go
[03:35] <Panos> Can I install PES (Pro Evolution Soccer) on my Dapper Drake
[03:35] <ian1> penguin42, Trying now.
[03:35] <Panos> Using Wine or Using Cedega ?
[03:36] <jnvilo> u-sun i think you edit /etc/apt/sources.list and then do an apt-get update
[03:36] <penguin42> Panos: Well, Cedega is aimed at game stuff - look at their site to see fi it lists PES I'd say
[03:36] <Panos> Ok penguin
[03:36] <Hyperpenguin> Is it safe to let Ubuntu share /boot with Gentoo? Or should I make a new boot partition?
[03:36] <johnnyg>  how do I add a command to the code that runs during startup? Right now, if I don't "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" every time my wlan0 won't come up
[03:36] <Panos> Thanks for answering dude
[03:36] <u-sun> jnvile, what is the source list to insert?
[03:37] <penguin42> johnnyg: You could add it to /etc/rc.local   but for networking you are probably best to add it to an interfaces file
[03:37] <ian1> penguin42, Well, I've got a black screen, but that means little.  I think it's a built-in patience test.  I let it sit like this for 5 minutes and something happens.  I hope.  That's what it's done all night.
[03:38] <johnnyg> penguin42: I installed Ubuntu yesterday and am not too familiar - what interfaces file should I add it to and why that one?
[03:38] <penguin42> ian1: Weird - after you've let it get through that how far does ti get ?
[03:38] <ian1> penguin42, Any idea why a 5.10 installation (non-live) was working marginally better?
[03:38] <penguin42> ian1: No
[03:38] <u-sun> hello, what is the latest source list for dapper?
[03:38] <u-sun> 14:38 < u-sun> dapper-extras
[03:38] <penguin42> johnnyg: Does your /etc/network/interfaces have an entry for the network card?
[03:39] <ian1> penguin42, Ok, black screen didn't quit being black.  Any other ideas?
[03:39] <johnnyg> penguin42: also, currently my /etc/re.local is currently blank, is that proper?
[03:39] <penguin42> johnnyg: Yeh, it's a local file for local changes
[03:40] <noob> what is the most easy way to simulate a freebsd in my ubuntu?
[03:40] <johnnyg> penguin42: Yes, it has this:
[03:40] <johnnyg> auto wlan0
[03:40] <johnnyg> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[03:40] <johnnyg> wireless-essid linksys
[03:40] <penguin42> you wouldn't be pasting here would you?
[03:40] <noob> omg death sentence is for pasting
[03:41] <penguin42> johnnyg: Try adding on the line after the iface line something like       pre-up modprobe ndis-wrapper        that should run that before it brings the interface up - but I've not used ndiswrapper so I don't know if ther eis a prettyier way
[03:41] <Panos> Hmmmmm
[03:41] <XVampireX> So do people get ignored here alot?
[03:41] <atoponce> noob: simulate freebsd with a theme or just overall?
[03:41] <Panos> well Guys watch this http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=4077
[03:41] <Panos> The playability rating is just 1/6
[03:41] <penguin42> XVampireX: Sometimes people just don't know the answers to peoples questions
[03:41] <XVampireX> "
[03:41] <Panos> Should I give it try ?
[03:41] <XVampireX> 16:39
[03:41] <XVampireX> And no one bothered answering you on #ubuntu?
[03:41] <XVampireX> err
[03:42] <XVampireX> "nope" "that means i'm screwed?"
[03:42] <noob> atoponce: i want to run an application which uses the madwifi wireless driver but which only runs on bsd: http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/a.bittau/frag-0.1.tgz ...
[03:42] <munsa> howdy
[03:42] <Panos> What do you suggest me to do ?
[03:42] <munsa> does anyone here know anything about XGL?"
[03:42] <Panos> Yes
[03:42] <Panos> I use XGL
[03:42] <Hyperpenguin|brb> #ubuntu-xgl
[03:43] <atoponce> noob: ahh. ok. can't help ya there. sorry mate
[03:43] <ian1> penguin42, Ok what about "noapic nolapic" ?
[03:43] <Panos> I can help you with XGL
[03:43] <munsa> Panos how are you?
[03:43] <Snakeiht> crappy wlan :(
[03:43] <Panos> I'm fine man
[03:43] <T`ch> Panos, does it work well enough?
[03:43] <gsuveg> i have problem with cdwringtin. i cant write cd, and manymany dvdrw make bad under wrinting ubuntu. any idea maybe ?
[03:43] <T`ch> Panos, like no crashes, suspend/resume, etc.?
[03:43] <Panos> It rocks man
[03:43] <digiworx> anyone got wireless working with ubuntu?
[03:43] <ian1> penguin42, Does this require something like "vga=771" before it?
[03:43] <munsa> Panos- Fantastic! your a life saver
[03:43] <Panos> no
[03:43] <Panos> not crashes at look
[03:43] <Snakeiht> digiworx,  no :P
[03:43] <T`ch> Panos, ok may be you can help me and munsa then ;)
[03:43] <Snakeiht> cant fix it :(
[03:43] <penguin42> ian1: possibly; do you have any installation that does run on it?  the vga stuff is only screen res stuff
[03:43] <Panos> yes guys
[03:43] <noob> atoponce: ok so ill just help myself
[03:43] <Panos> I am able to help you
[03:44] <digiworx> Snakeiht, this should befun then ;D
[03:44] <gsuveg> digiworx: why not ?
[03:44] <T`ch> Panos, i am on dapper, but everything seemed too complicated to setup
[03:44] <Panos> but beware, I was trying 20 hours to setup it
[03:44] <digiworx> gsuveg: why not?
[03:44] <Snakeiht> :P
[03:44] <Panos> Yes I am on Dapper too
[03:44] <T`ch> Panos, which graphics card were you on?
[03:44] <atoponce> noob: i have had absolutely *no* luck with wireless in ubuntu at *all*
[03:44] <Panos> just a moment
[03:44] <Snakeiht> Im trying already 4 days :P
[03:44] <T`ch> lol ic
[03:44] <Snakeiht> First time on ubuntu
[03:44] <Panos> I'm on GeForce Ti4200
[03:44] <Snakeiht> :)
[03:44] <munsa> Panos-  I installed it I did everything I was told to do in the how-to, finally I rebooted and it told me there was some problem with GDM or smething and my screen just kept blinking back and forth
[03:44] <Nightattack> Ive been tying to get ati drivers to work, i tried almost everything on the forums but i still get mesa info when I do fglrxinfo, can anyone help me please?
[03:44] <atoponce> kinda sucks, actually
[03:44] <munsa> panos - finally it said it killed xserver
[03:44] <T`ch> Panos, aiglx?
[03:44] <ag0ny> is someone using a WUSB54G V4 with WPA enbaled?
[03:44] <Panos> noob, GLX
[03:44] <munsa> Panos-  it told me to fix it then it let me login
[03:44] <Panos> aiglx is for Linux
[03:44] <Panos> eeh sory
[03:45] <T`ch> huh?
[03:45] <Panos> AIGLX is for Fedora
[03:45] <uenyioha> part
[03:45] <Panos> just a moment guys
[03:45] <T`ch> k
[03:45] <XVampireX> People
[03:45] <T`ch> we should talk in ubuntu-xgl
[03:45] <Panos> First of all tell me which is your VGA ?
[03:45] <XVampireX> Help Nightattack
[03:45] <Panos> nVidia or ATI ?
[03:45] <T`ch> Panos, munsa, join #ubuntu-xgl
[03:45] <munsa> ATI
[03:45] <T`ch> same here..
[03:45] <Panos> munsa shall we join o ubuntu-xgl ?
[03:46] <T`ch> Panos, he's already there
[03:46] <T`ch> Panos, waiting for thee ;)
[03:46] <Snakeiht> somebody knows how you do in linux like in Windows, how do you make 2 partitions?
[03:46] <T`ch> Snakehit, are you installing ubuntu?
[03:46] <munsa> Panos- yea Panos I am there
[03:46] <Snakeiht> i already did
[03:46] <Nightattack> I've been tying to get ati drivers to work, i tried almost everything on the forums but i still get mesa info when I do fglrxinfo, can anyone help me please?
[03:46] <Panos> Ok
[03:46] <T`ch> Snakehit, so you have free space on your disk to make another partition?
[03:47] <Snakeiht> yes
[03:47] <Snakeiht> its 200GB... and need more partitions
[03:47] <T`ch> Snakehit, so this free space isn't occupied by current partitions?
[03:47] <Goshawk> hi, is there here somebody that uses "pbuilder"?
[03:47] <Panos> Ok
[03:47] <bretzel> Would someone help me ? - I have lost sound since I deleted the orig. user and switch to a new ( with of course, admin sudoer)
[03:47] <T`ch> Snakehit, so its one harddisk you have right? do you know the device name for it?
[03:47] <Snakeiht> i think its used because i have 1 disk of 200 new...
[03:47] <Snakeiht> yes
[03:47] <Snakeiht> i can see that in the device manager
[03:48] <XVampireX> [16:46]  <Nightattack> I've been tying to get ati drivers to work, i tried almost everything on the forums but i still get mesa info when I do fglrxinfo, can anyone help me please?
[03:48] <elmato> dont have an answer for you bretzel... but the same thing happened to me yesterday =\
[03:48] <ganymed> hello
[03:48] <we3za> hi\
[03:48] <we3za> please someone help me
[03:48] <cooops> can ubuntu play games? eg battlefied 2?
[03:48] <T`ch> Snakeiht, can you do a fdisk -l /dev/<name> and pm me the info?
[03:48] <XVampireX> [16:46]  <Nightattack> I've been tying to get ati drivers to work, i tried almost everything on the forums but i still get mesa info when I do fglrxinfo, can anyone help me please?
[03:48] <Snakeiht> ok
[03:49] <ganymed> where is the firmware for wireless cards stored in dapper?
[03:49] <niruana> sure cooops
[03:49] <cooops> i see
[03:49] <XVampireX> cooops: Can windows play ubuntu?
[03:49] <we3za> my HP evectra cant connect to internet using ubuntu linux
[03:49] <XVampireX> IS EVERYONE HERE CLUELESS ABOUT ATI?!
[03:49] <we3za> i try to do ifconfig
[03:49] <cooops> so can use all the programs windows can use? photoshop and other games
[03:49] <cooops> or is it limited
[03:49] <we3za> and it showing that the NIC is detected
[03:49] <nearfar_> is iPod sync in rhythmbox working for any of you?
[03:49] <bretzel> elmato: And you're still stuck with no sound ? :-) , btw in GDM the sound works, as soon as I login, I lost the sound. I've verified that all emu10k1 related modules are loaded tho
[03:49] <ganymed> XVampireX: what is the problem?
[03:50] <cooops> not sure XVampireX  :P
[03:50] <XVampireX> [16:46]  <Nightattack> I've been tying to get ati drivers to work, i tried almost everything on the forums but i still get mesa info when I do fglrxinfo, can anyone help me please?
[03:50] <david__> how does wine work?
[03:50] <johnnyg> cooops: Linux's Photoshop is named "The Gimp", test drive it by visiting Applications -> Graphics -> Gimp
[03:50] <niruana> not all cooops  but allot
[03:50] <penguin42> cooops: There is an emulator which can run some windows programs but it is touchy - some things work well, a lot of things don't
[03:50] <gebruiker> What options do I need configuring a costum kernel) enabeling the ubuntu splash boot screen?
[03:50] <hume_> anyone knows how to automount with sshfs?
[03:50] <cooops> ahh i see
[03:50] <tuxtux> ciao
[03:50] <cooops> thanks for the help
[03:50] <gebruiker> What options do I need configuring a costum kernel) enabeling the splash boot screen?
[03:51] <ganymed> XVampireX: download the latest binaries from ati and exectute the script. restart X and everything should work
[03:51] <tuxtux> !amsn
[03:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <niruana> Can somebody help me with the MadWiFi DRIVERS?
[03:51] <tuxtux> !mercury
[03:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mercury - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <penguin42> gebruiker: I don't know, but the config for the kernel you are running is in /boot
[03:51] <tuxtux> non rompere
[03:51] <ganymed> if you wanna use fglrx, do not mess up things manually
[03:51] <farous> hume_: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8904
[03:51] <ganymed> where is the wireless cards firmware stored in dapper???
[03:52] <bretzel> !emu10k1
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emu10k1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <ganymed> !firmware
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firmware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <ganymed> !ipw2200
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipw2200 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <ganymed> !wlan
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <bretzel> !sudoers
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <elmato> yep I still have the problem bretzel. I couldnt figure it out. thought it might be something to do with the dist-upgrade I did earlier? dunno... I took the easy way out and 'fixed' the other user that I had previously broken ;)
[03:53] <atoponce> ubotu doesn't seem to know anything... :)
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesn't seem to know anything... :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <atoponce> hehe
[03:53] <Hyperpenguin> lol
[03:53] <Hyperpenguin> What a fun bot.
[03:54] <hume_> farous, thanks! it integrates well with gnome, you know how to set a similar startup program in KDE?
[03:54] <atoponce> ubotu: ubuntu
[03:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[03:54] <jolt> Heh im new to using ubuntu, not linux, having a heck of a time figuring out why a couple packages wont install, even though im pretty sure the dependancies are installed
[03:54] <penguin42> jolt: What error do you get?
[03:54] <atoponce> jolt: what packages?
[03:55] <Nightattack>  ganymed: I tried to do that(install using ATI Driver Installer)  but it didn't work
[03:55] <t> sudo apt-get install apache2
[03:55] <bretzel> elmato: Strange because in GDM the sound works ( ear the tam-tam) :-) ... btw When I logged in after having deleted the orig. user, my new user lost EVERY admin sudoer even in the system menu, I had to maually add the groups and priviledges in /etc/sudoers and /etc/passwd;group to regain admin stuff ...
[03:55] <jolt> XV is bitching about lib2png, and electricsheeps bitching about libc6
[03:55] <t> It asks me to put in the Ubuntu cd
[03:55] <t> anyone know how to apt-get without the cd?
[03:55] <penguin42> jolt: During compilation or installing the binary?
[03:55] <t> i lost my ubuntu cd :(
[03:55] <jolt> installing the binary
[03:55] <penguin42> t: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:56] <atoponce> t: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the cdrom line
[03:56] <penguin42> jolt: Hmm exact error please
[03:56] <XVampireX> [16:55]  <Nightattack> ganymed: I tried to do that(install using ATI Driver Installer)  but it didn't work
[03:56] <t> k thanks a lot!
[03:56] <Snakeiht> i need to format ubuntu :P
[03:56] <Snakeiht> i think i fucked up complet;)
[03:56] <penguin42> unlikely
[03:56] <tarzeau> Snakeiht: can you try a script before you format it?
[03:56] <gnomefreak> Snakeiht: watch your langauge please
[03:56] <atoponce> jolt: sudo aptitude install electricsheep
[03:56] <Snakeiht> excuse me gnomefreak
[03:57] <t> alright, it worked. Thanks guys!
[03:57] <tarzeau> Snakeiht: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ubuntu/uncurse
[03:57] <atoponce> t: np
[03:57] <jolt> Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6 ..... and for xv the other Dependancy is not satisfiable libpng2
[03:57] <bretzel> elmato: I also did a distupgrade... but I doubt it is realted because as long as I had the old admin user, erveything worked find..until I deleted that user.
[03:57] <farous> hume_: never tried
[03:57] <gnomefreak> Snakeiht: watch your langauge. this is a family channel
[03:57] <penguin42> Tarandus: Yeech
[03:58] <BusMaster> i have a sony miniDV handycam and a usb cable to connect it to my computer. How do I pull in the videos from the tape?
[03:58] <Alex22_> hi
[03:58] <Snakeiht> tarzeau,  and what does that do?
[03:58] <elmato> bretzel : yeah the only reason I figured that broke is was because when I dist-upgraded from hoary to breezy 6 months ago it broke a lot of stuff... mainly sound.
[03:58] <Alex22_> how i can shared my Ubuntu disk to Mac OSX sistem, for save App's
[03:58] <BusMaster> i'm using dapper, by the way.  Itried using kino, but it apparently works on with ieee1394
[03:58] <penguin42> jolt: libpng2 doesn't seem to exist - I suspect it is ancient
[04:00] <bretzel> elmato: me is Dapper - distupgrade to to get Compiz/Xgl/cgwd + only... not the samething I think :-) thus it must be something with deleting a user created at the installation phase...
[04:00] <bXi> is it possible to use /dev/input/js0 on another machine?
[04:00] <jolt> was wondering if symlinking libpng2 to the current png library might work?
[04:01] <elmato> I agree... funny you mention compiz etc though... that is how I broke my original user :P
[04:01] <ych> is there a way to ping using a specific eth device, short of deactivating the other one?
[04:01] <jolt> is there any *good* reason to run compiz.. i have heard nothing but problems
[04:01] <ych> like some kind of ping -eth0 or something
[04:01] <tarzeau> Snakeiht: try to make a debian sid of it
[04:02] <tarzeau> Snakeiht: i need it tested
[04:02] <Troka> A Hacker roots MySpace : http://tinyurl.com/ef35u LoLoL ^-^
[04:03] <bretzel> elmato: In Dapper, I tell you that compiz didn't  brake anything ... Only after I've deleted the orig. user, I lost admin and sound with my new user which was working find < before > I deleted the installed user
[04:04] <bretzel> !configure sound
[04:04] <elmato> yeah I dunno... to be honest I wouldnt have a clue how to fix it. I was really just commenting that I had the same problem in the hopes that one of the gurus here would step in ;)
[04:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about configure sound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <ych> anyone know?
[04:05] <bretzel> ( uboto ) is empty!
[04:05] <kekko`Linux> salve io uso ubuntu e nn riesco a spiegrmi prche' non mi apre piu' amule neppure disinstallandolo e poi rinstallandolo... nemmeno le versioni precedenti o successive...
[04:05] <NthDegree> !es
[04:05] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:05] <Snakeiht> its busy tarzeau  almost complete
[04:05] <NthDegree> !it
[04:05] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:05] <kekko`Linux> ok
[04:05] <ccidral> hello
[04:06] <NthDegree> one of those languages anyway :p
[04:06] <ccidral> I need help
[04:06] <NthDegree> !ask
[04:06] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:06] <ccidral> hehe, ok
[04:06] <NthDegree> ccidral, what can I help you with?
[04:06] <ccidral> I have ubuntu 6.06 installed, and was a CRT monitor
[04:07] <ych> anyone know how to ping using a specific ethernet controller, if i have multiple?
[04:07] <ccidral> I bought an LCD monitor recently
[04:07] <NthDegree> ccidral, you can't get any display right?
[04:07] <jamiebarrow> ych: not sure.. have u checked the man pages
[04:07] <ccidral> yes. the refresh rate I was using for the previous monitor (85Hz) is not support by the new monitor
[04:08] <bretzel> ccidral: did you try (sudo) dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[04:08] <jamiebarrow> Anybody know Kernel programming?
[04:08] <NthDegree> ccidral, two ways to fix it
[04:08] <ccidral> no. I'm gonna try
[04:08] <Doodluv> !compiz
[04:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:08] <ccidral> yes NthDegree
[04:08] <jamiebarrow> ...or perhaps a channel specific to Linux 2.6 kernel programming
[04:08] <ccidral> NthDegree, let me know
[04:08] <NthDegree> either open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf and edit the refresh rate on there
[04:09] <HeXiOn> hello
[04:09] <jamiebarrow> HeXiOn: hey
[04:09] <penguin42> Jamiebarrow: See http://www.kernelnewbies.org/  it has an irc channel
[04:09] <ccidral> wooooow... that was The File I was looking for ages! :-O
[04:09] <Distro^Junkie> hiya
[04:09] <jamiebarrow> penguin42: ah.. thanx!
[04:09] <NthDegree> or do as bretzel said before
[04:09] <ccidral> right
[04:09] <ccidral> thank you!!!
[04:09] <HeXiOn> when I launch amaroK I have this error: "...couldn't communicate with kdelauncher" and it doesn't minimize to tray. I'm using ubuntu (gnome). What should I do?
[04:10] <jamiebarrow> penguin42: do u have any experience with kernel programming urself?
[04:10] <tarzeau> Snakeiht: thanks
[04:10] <penguin42> Jamiebarrow: I've tinkered a bit but not done anything recently
[04:10] <jamiebarrow> Distro^Junkie: lol.
[04:10] <NthDegree> HeXiOn, because amaroK is traditionally a KDE app it has issues integrating into GNOME
[04:10] <jamiebarrow> penguin42: do you know how the copy_to_user function works
[04:10] <HeXiOn> NthDegree, so I can't do anything?
[04:11] <Distro^Junkie> HeXiOn, just install the kde-desktop
[04:11] <jamiebarrow> HeXiOn: if u like KDE, maybe try Kubuntu
[04:11] <HeXiOn> the whole kde-desktop
[04:11] <penguin42> jamiebarrow: I know what it is supposed to do, but I'd have to look it up - go try #kernelnewbies or the docs on their site
[04:11] <HeXiOn> jamiebarrow: no, I preffer gnome ;)
[04:11] <jamiebarrow> penguin42: ok. i will thanks.
[04:11] <HeXiOn> but I like amarok
[04:11] <uberspaced> hey; does anybody have experience with multiple network cards in the same box?
[04:12] <Jell-O-Fishi> uberspaced : please be more specific.
[04:12] <Subhuman> uberspaced, yeah
[04:12] <uberspaced> Jell-O-Fishi, will do
[04:12] <uberspaced> ok
[04:12] <Distro^Junkie> well amarok needs kde dependencies
[04:12] <jamiebarrow> HeXiOn: lol. well i think there is some project to create a standard between most GUIs so one day that problem might not be there anymore :D until then *shrug* i dunno
[04:12] <uberspaced> when I boot up with eth1 configured and active, my nslookups are going over that interface, instead of eth0
[04:12] <HeXiOn> ok, thanks ;)
[04:13] <uberspaced> if i disable it, and re-enable it, and re-run my firewall script, everything works as normal.
[04:13] <jamiebarrow> k bye, thanks again penguin42
[04:13] <penguin42> jamiebarrow: Np
[04:13] <uberspaced> I would like my eth0 to always handle outbound requests, instead of them being bounced back inside; does this have something to do with the way my default routes are configured on bootup?
[04:14] <Subhuman> uberspaced, goto System/admin/networking, and set the default gateway device to eth0
[04:14] <uberspaced> Subhuman, do you know the name of the /etc/networking? conf file?
[04:14] <uberspaced> i dont really use ubuntu that much
[04:14] <NthDegree> HeXiOn. look for a package called kdelauncher
[04:14] <uberspaced> well, i dont have much experience with doing these things on ubuntu
[04:14] <HeXiOn> NthDegree: I did, aptitude doen't have it
[04:15] <Subhuman> uberspaced, no ive never had any networking issues really so i dont know.
[04:15] <Jell-O-Fishi> uberspaced : /etc/network/interfaces ? i think
[04:15] <uberspaced> like /etc/network/interfaces
[04:15] <HeXiOn> I FIXED IT!!!! I did a dpkg-reconfigure amarok
[04:15] <uberspaced> yeah
[04:15] <HeXiOn> :)
[04:15] <uberspaced> Jell-O-Fishi, yeah; lookin into it now.  thanks :)
[04:15] <Hyperpenguin> Hey, does Gparted always take so long to do stuff? lol impatient me
[04:15] <uberspaced> haha, and there it is, gateway is set to my internal network
[04:15] <HeXiOn> oops, the message returned :S
[04:16] <uberspaced> (on redhat this crap is called /etc/networking)
[04:16] <uberspaced> close enough i guess.
[04:17] <NthDegree> HeXiOn, use rhythmbox if you use gnome
[04:17] <dannym> hi
[04:17] <HeXiOn> I think I'll add kubuntu repositories to see if I can install kdelauncher
[04:17] <uberspaced> can any of you who are using DCHP for an external interface give me the line in their /etc/network/interfaces file that specifies that eth0 is the external interface?
[04:17] <uberspaced> currently it's an ip address for me in the file
[04:17] <HeXiOn> NthDegree, I preffer amarok for it's LIRC support
[04:17] <NthDegree> HeXiOn, kubuntu repos are ubuntu repos
[04:17] <uberspaced> i wonder if I can use 'eth0' in its place
[04:17] <dannym> I wonder what to do when dpkg-buildpackage reports "dpkg-source: cannot represent change to desktop/qemu.png: binary file contents changed" ...
[04:17] <NthDegree> they share repos
[04:18] <uberspaced> or if i can delete the line entirely because eth0 is configured by DHCP
[04:18] <dannym> I just want it to build a deb, is it somehow possible to disable all the other cruft?
[04:18] <NthDegree> dannym, qemu is already in universe I think
[04:19] <Snakeiht> tarzeau,
[04:19] <Snakeiht> its finished
[04:19] <dannym> NthDegree: I'm patching it to include the mandatory gui stuff (desktop file, icon, launcher)
[04:19] <NthDegree> dannym, bad idea
[04:19] <dannym> NthDegree: why?
[04:19] <NthDegree> what's the point in making a deb file then?
[04:19] <lmosher> Anyone here an xgl expet? (no one is in #xgl)
[04:20] <NthDegree> dannym, the reason ubuntu on many sites was criticised was because universe maintainers and other users were patching software with poor patches
[04:21] <uberspaced> bah, i just deleted the gateway line.  if i really need it, shit should go terribly terribly wrong.
[04:21] <uberspaced> thanks for the help :)
[04:21] <Grok_> is there a way to modify the button mappings on a 3 button mouse so that the middle button when held will control scrolling? (alternative way of doing scroll wheel type of thing)
[04:22] <farous> any known tools to spin down external usb hard disk when idle?
[04:22] <ompaul> Grok_, it should work to scroll anyway - if in a window that understands that action
[04:22] <doublehp> whats the tool to auto detect and configure DSL internet connection for ethernet modems ?
[04:22] <erUSUL> doublehp: pppoeconfig
[04:22] <erUSUL> ??
[04:22] <ian1> Ok, booting from livecd, having error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20447 .  Tried many boot boot options... no dice.  Anyone able to help?
[04:23] <lmosher> farous, Is it a USB enclosure witha  desktop-sized HDD inside?
[04:23] <farous> lmosher: yap
[04:23] <ompaul> Grok_, have a look at sudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg  (just try scrolling not actually pressing in the wheel also - they are seperate actions ;-))
[04:23] <lmosher> farous, I don't have an answer, but I honestly suggest you -don't- use something like that
[04:23] <dannym> NthDegree: nag upstream then?
[04:23] <erUSUL> ian1: what processor does your machine have?
[04:24] <Hyperpenguin> ian1, looks like a BIOS error.
[04:24] <farous> lmosher: do not use what the hard disk or spin down tool?
[04:24] <ian1> erUSUL, P4 1.4
[04:24] <lmosher> farous, hehe you can use the hard disk, but I wouldn't suggest trying to spin it down
[04:24] <farous> lmosher: it gets really hot after a while?
[04:24] <farous> lmosher: and i can still return it ;)
[04:25] <realist> lmosher: interesting suggestion, why?
[04:25] <lmosher> farous, If you read about a tool called "laptop-mode" (it spins down laptop drives) they STRONGLY suggest not using it for desktop drives
[04:25] <Paladine_> !restricted
[04:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:25] <lmosher> farous, realist anyway, the reason is beacuse desktop HDDS are not rated for as many spindowns/spinups as laptop drives
[04:25] <erUSUL> ian1: the msg seems harmless as you do not have an smp processor. does it prevent booting? try disabling hyperthreading
[04:25] <ian1> erUSUL, tried "live acpi=off noapic nolapic", "rescue acpi=off", live acpi=off".... None worked...
[04:26] <lmosher> farous, realist: I don't remember the exact numbers, but it was like 1,000 vs 10,000 or something. They made it clear that using this tool could actually take a year off yoru drive life..
[04:26] <ccidral> hello
[04:26] <ccidral> thank you guys! now I have ubuntu up and running again  :-)
[04:26] <farous> lmosher: thanx for the warining :)
[04:26] <ian1> erUSUL, Well, if I let the comp sit for a while (3 minutes+) it attempts to continue... But always fails.  I don't know if my comp actually uses hyperthreading.  If it did, how would I turn this off?
[04:27] <lmosher> farous, yeah np.. if it dosen't make a different to you read up on laptop-mode. You may be able to get it to work for you
[04:27] <farous> lmosher: the problem is that it heats up and never even shutdown after 5 hours
[04:27] <farous> making it very hot
[04:27] <chaz_> Hey guys, anyone know how to format an SD card to FAT or FAT32 in Ubuntu please.
[04:27] <sto6ma9ch> mkfs -t vfat
[04:27] <farous> lmosher: i hooked it up to a desktop so laptop-tools is not for it anyway
[04:28] <farous> lmosher: i read about sdparm
[04:28] <b_> can someone help me adding a script
[04:28] <b_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20450
[04:28] <lmosher> farous, Well I think you coudl install laptop-tools on a desktop, but the thing is I don't think you can tell it -which- drive to control... i.e. it would spin down your main hdd too
[04:28] <Jamie> hum... im trying to fix my TV out.. but i have no idea what i am doing. coudl anyoen helpm me? ive installed so i have NVIDIA X Server Settings
[04:28] <b_> info is their i just donm't know how do add to init
[04:28] <Jamie> but in there i can only find my computer screen
[04:28] <erUSUL> ian1: maybe in the bios?? i've never owned a p4 with ht sorry... you can try to update your bios too
[04:29] <farous> lol laptop-mode-tools was installed by default on my desktop
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Jamie: Hi, what type of P4 problem
[04:29] <lmosher> farous, Since you say the drive goes hours inactive it's probably perfectly safe to spin it down... Just a matter of figuring out how to make it work
[04:30] <Jamie> Jack_Sparrow: no P4 problem.. tvout-problem here.
[04:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Jamie: Sorry, came in late..
[04:30] <lmosher> farous, lol, yeah I think I have it too it's just not enabled :P It's kind of a neat utility for laptops b/c it uses a fairly large cache.. Waits 5 mins, spins up, writes, spins down.. etc.
[04:31] <Jamie> anyoen gotten theit tvout tow ork? i have a nvidia geforce 4 card..
[04:31] <bretzel> It getting me Very frustrated ... Even in KDE - no sound card - but logging out back to GDM I ear the tam-tam ... very frustrating.
[04:32] <bretzel> can;t search for that specific problem in ubuntu forums, google...
[04:32] <Whyvas> Jamie, you have to add a new monitor in your xorg.conf
[04:32] <bretzel> can't find*
[04:32] <erUSUL> b_: edit your ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile file and add the two lines
[04:32] <jolt> got another one, i cannot wake up from hibernate on a asus p5a OEM with ubuntu..
[04:32] <farous> lmosher: how can you tell if it is working or not
[04:32] <Jamie> Whyvas: how? i dont understand how?
[04:32] <Whyvas> Jamie, OR you can just use nvtv
[04:32] <b_> yeah but im not sure how to do that
[04:33] <Jamie> Whyvas: nvtv ok.. apt-get install nvtv?
[04:33] <Whyvas> Jamie, get nvtv from synaptic then google it's use
[04:33] <Whyvas> i think so
[04:33] <Jamie> oki
[04:33] <lmosher> farous, Just type "sudo lapto_mode" and watch it say "disabled, not active" :)
[04:33] <Whyvas> it's something like nvtv -r 800, 600 -N NTSC -T -s Large
[04:33] <Grok__> ompaul: i timed out after your last response. after digging into this further i looked at me xorg.conf file in the mouse section. the zaxis mapping is set for "4 5" which i assume is that side bar area on the touch pad. if i change that to "2" should that solve my problem? and will that conf file reload with a "ctrl alt bkspc"?
[04:34] <Whyvas> something like that but im sure that's not how it is
[04:34] <b_> i have no idea where ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile is located
[04:34] <erUSUL> b_: '~' means your home directory /home/user/
[04:35] <b_> ahhhh
[04:35] <farous> lmosher: cool thanx for you help have to continue googling :)
[04:35] <lmosher> farous, good luck
[04:35] <chaz_> Hey guys, anyone know how to format an SD card to FAT or FAT32 in Ubuntu please.
[04:35] <ian1> When using a live cd, is there a way to boot in CLI and still use the "install" function?  I would give my soul to know how to do this...
[04:35] <erUSUL> chaz_: mkfs.vfat
[04:36] <chaz_> what does that do
[04:36] <farous> ian1: use the alternate c
[04:36] <farous> d
[04:36] <lmosher> chaz: 'man mkfs' give you a hint mk = make, fs = filesystem
[04:36] <sto6ma9ch> chaz_: Open a Terminal and type "mkfs -t vfat /device/location"
[04:36] <erUSUL> chaz_: MaKeFileSystem.vfat  (vfat is fat32)
[04:37] <ian1> farous, Different ISO image?
[04:37] <b_> bash is not located there
[04:37] <b_> is there a comand to edit it
[04:37] <farous> ian1: yap
[04:37] <farous> ian1: won't be able to boot from the cd though
[04:38] <jameson> hello. how can I start/activate universe ?
[04:38] <farous> !universe > jameson
[04:39] <jameson> thx
[04:39] <erUSUL> jameson: with synaptic
[04:39] <ian1> farous, I'm just looking to install it.  But having issues with SMP and MP tables.  Don't know if CLI version of livecd will help, but..
[04:39] <Luke> For some reason i dont see "reboot" or "shutdown" when i go to System/Exit anymore
[04:39] <Luke> how do i get that?
[04:39] <b_> couldn't i just add cd $HOME/boinc
[04:39] <b_>      nice boinc_client >/dev/null & to the  sysytem prefs sessions startup tab
[04:39] <ompaul> Grok_, your numbers are right for such a mouse - suggest you do what I said "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" it works out of the box - DONT press the button scroll it
[04:39] <sto6ma9ch> jameson: Edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file and delete the # in front of the lines that have the "universe"
[04:40] <ompaul> Grok_, so don't change the numbers
[04:40] <farous> ian1: i think the livecd do not have the text based installer. the alternate cd is much better in that respect
[04:40] <jameson> thx a lot guys
[04:40] <ian1> farous, Were you saying I won't be able to boot from the alt cd?
[04:40] <farous> ian1: and the livecd have other issues too. for install the alternate cd is much better
[04:40] <jgpons> Hello everyone. Anyone could tell me what to do with an unconfigured package I want to remove? I've tried remove --force-all with no luck. Thanks in advance.
[04:41] <farous> ian1: no you can boot test your sys from it and use it to install the os but not through the text based mode
[04:41] <ian1> farous, So use the alt iso image to install, remove cd, and I should be able to proceed as normal, yes?
[04:41] <farous> ian1: yap
[04:41] <david__> I looked in the weforums and i can't seem to find how to network ubuntu with win98, can someone help?
[04:41] <sto6ma9ch> jgpons: Open a termianl and type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[04:42] <jgpons> sto6ma9ch trying it now
[04:42] <ian1> farous Well, as everything else has failed and I can't seem to get anyone else who knows what's up with my error... Might as well. :D Thanks.
[04:42] <b_> crap alirght ill figure this out on my own thanks anyways
[04:42] <doublehp> my DSL ethernet modem is connected to both ethernet and DSL; pppoeconf did not detect the modem, but still the modem blinked; which other tool can help ?
[04:43] <Luke> For some reason i dont see "reboot" or "shutdown" when i go to System/Exit anymore. Anyone know how to fix this?
[04:43] <jgpons> but I don't thinks it will work. The package is vmware-player and I think I've screwed it up too much it will not configure. I want just to get rid of it and start from scratch again
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Luke: I had that happen after I was playing around in sudo and also installed Kubuntu-desktop over gnome
[04:43] <Luke> Jack_Sparrow: nope I didnt install kubuntu over gnome =D
[04:43] <jgpons> It didn't work. Dpkt returned an error code(1). Thanks anyway.
[04:44] <Jamie> hum
[04:44] <jgpons> I meant dkpg
[04:44] <spinz8r> hi, why are there root processes when i type top in terminal even though i have nver enabled root account. How do i disable the root processess.?Thanks.
[04:44] <Jamie> ive installed nvtv.. but how do i use it anyay? there is nothing about it in my menus
[04:44] <jgpons> dpkg brrrrrr.... #@&& laptop keyboard :)
[04:44] <sto6ma9ch> jgpons: I'm almost positive that the VMWare Player comes with its own uninstaller script. Check the directory that was created when the tarball was extracted.
[04:45] <erUSUL> spinz8r: many processes of the system run with root priv. no matter if you have root account or not.
[04:45] <scrappy_> Jamie: open a terminal and type 'nvtv&' see if it works
[04:46] <jgpons> sto6ma9ch Is that directory anywhere under /tmp?
[04:46] <sorush2> hi guys how do get my   A8N-VM CSM to be fully supported
[04:47] <Jamie> scrappy_: something happens.. [1]  5860 ouput
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> sorush2: too cryptic for me.. something about an asus mb
[04:48] <jgpons> I can't find it. hat I did to screw as much my config was to mix vmware-player (installed via deb package) and vmware-server (installed from the tarball). Now I'm stuck with vmware-player as a nonconfigured package. I'd just like to get rid of it, even manuallu
[04:48] <jgpons> manually
[04:49] <sto6ma9ch> jgpons: the VMWare Player uninstaller script is located @ vmware-player-distrib/bin/vmware-uninstall.pl
[04:49] <sto6ma9ch> jgpons: Depends upon where you extracted the package
[04:50] <jgpons> I used the default... didn't specify any location
[04:50] <scrappy_> Jamie: id read the text files in /usr/share/doc/nvtv/ directory
[04:50] <sto6ma9ch> jgpons: Did you download VMWare Player from VMWare's site?
[04:51] <jgpons> No. I used synaptic. There is a specific ubuntu package. I tried to install it _after_ i installed _server from the tarball.
[04:51] <jgpons> (the ubuntu package is in multiverse)
[04:51] <sto6ma9ch> jgpons: What was the package name that you installed via deb?
[04:51] <scrappy_> Jamie: there is a USAGE.gz you might type sudo gunzip USAGE.gz then opent that usage file in gedit
[04:52] <slon`> ok
[04:52] <munsa> how do I send somone a message on this thing?
[04:52] <jgpons> sto6ma9ch it is vmware-player_1.0.1-4_i386.deb
[04:53] <scrappy_> munsa: /msg nick texttosend
[04:53] <munsa> thanks
[04:53] <sto6ma9ch> jgpons: What happens when you open Synaptic and try to mark "vmware-player" for removal?
[04:54] <jgpons> I'm trying it now
[04:54] <bretzel> elmato ?
[04:54] <elmato> sup?
[04:54] <elmato> any luck ? :P
[04:55] <bretzel> yes, but tell me if you lost sound card in user or into system-wide ?
[04:55] <elmato> just in the new user
[04:55] <bretzel> elmato: okay then, what I did is
[04:56] <Hyperpenguin> Sheesh. Does Gparted always take 30min+ to do stuff? </impatience>
[04:56] <jgpons> sto6ma9ch It's kind of a catch-22 situation. It refuses to deinstall because it is not configure. and the config script fails :)
[04:56] <drbreen> i have a problem: abiword-gnome does not want to install b/c it depends n abiword-common and vice versa
[04:57] <drbreen> catch-22 ?
[04:57] <bretzel> elmato: 1: removed high-end module of my snd-card ( me is *emu10k1* )
[04:57] <sto6ma9ch> jgpons: Let's try this from the command line. Open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install autoclean". Then "sudo apt-get update". Let me know when that's done.
[04:57] <Stormx2> !easysource
[04:57] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:57] <drbreen> strange. it works after i install libenchant
[04:58] <Jay> anyone having WiFi problems?
[04:58] <bretzel> elmato: 2: edited /etc/passwd and manually readded my orig user ( #user:1000:1000:my name:/bin/bash ...etc...)
[04:58] <Jay> on the new install
[04:58] <Jay> or upgrade
[04:58] <JackONeill> Hey, I just booted up and my mouse was reeeeeeally slow - keyboard fine tho... any ideas why?
[04:58] <gerhard_> I just installed automatix-de in a chroot environment, but I cant launch it now
[04:58] <gerhard_> what to do?
[04:58] <bretzel> 3: elmato: edited /etc/group and did same : re-added orig user
[04:59] <Stormx2> !xorg
[04:59] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:59] <gerhard_> stormx2 is that meant as an answer to my question?
[04:59] <bretzel> 4: still in /etc/group: located audio group line and added current user as member ( let say bretzel for me )
[04:59] <tarzeau> bretzel: then did newgrp ?
[05:00] <doublehp> !adsl
[05:00] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[05:00] <bretzel> elmato: I really don't know which of those steps fixed thing a gave me back my user access to the sound card....
[05:00] <Jamie> hum.. ok im trying nvtv now.. but i get errors.. hum.. like this: sudo nvtv -t -r 800,600 -s Large ---> Defaulting to PAL TV system. Fatal: Cannot find 'Large' mode 800 x 600
[05:00] <Jamie> 
[05:00] <bretzel> tarzeau: group and orig user was already there before I deleted it. just re-insterted manually the orig user
[05:01] <elmato> heh... sweet. I didnt delete my original user. so Ill try steps 1 and 4 out in a sec
[05:01] <drbreen> i have a question: is there a program that copies a package and all its dependencies on my usb stick so i can install it on a pc w/o internet ?
[05:01] <elmato> thanks for sharing that :P
[05:01] <bretzel> tarzeau: -- in /etc/passwd and /etc/groups
[05:01] <adri_> hi everybody, i need your help to use mutella or GNutella. My connection workt perfectly but when i execute gnutella or mutella, it tells me that there is a problem whit my connection or with my firewall. but i have no firewall and i'm directly connected to my modem. Please help me!
[05:01] <seatouch> anyone know a good hosting controller for ubuntu ?
[05:01] <bretzel> tarzeau: are you aware that we talk
[05:02] <bretzel> oops sorry hit ret key before end
[05:02] <bretzel> tarzeau: you are aware that we talk about loosing sound card in user after deleteing orig sudoer user ?
[05:02] <scrappy_> Jamie: you were just wanting tv out?
[05:02] <RuarriS> does anyone know how if there is something wrong with the antesis.freecontrib.org repos?
[05:02] <Jamie> scrappy_: yes, or dualview
[05:03] <sto6ma9ch> jgpons? Still there?
[05:03] <bretzel> elmot: I suspect that setting new user member of audio groups has fixed the problem... I dunno
[05:03] <jgpons> sto6ma9ch doing
[05:03] <bretzel> audio goup...* not groups :-)
[05:03] <bretzel> group** arrtrg!
[05:04] <elmato> hehe
[05:04] <morpho> server irc.gnome.org
[05:04] <visik7> anyone have tried compiling xen-3.0 on dapper (sources from edgy)
[05:04] <scrappy_> Jamie: seen this post yet? ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456
[05:04] <Jay> ok anyone else having problems with wifi since a kernel upgrade?
[05:04] <farmer> (hi all) Short question: Can you make an .lnk file in linux in a Fat partition?
[05:04] <seatouch> wheres the sources.list located ?
[05:04] <jgpons> sto6ma9ch done
[05:04] <bretzel> I have to go cheers :-)
[05:05] <funkja> Hi. I have onboard audio and a tv tuner. The video works fine on the tv tuner and the sound works fine if I use a cable to connect my audio out on my tv tuner to my audio in on my motherboard. Is there a way that I can set my TV Tuner to act like a sound card so I don't have to use the cable between the card on my board?
[05:05] <sto6ma9ch> jgpons: Now type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[05:05] <Jamie> scrappy_: ehm.. yes.. and then when i rebooted i ended up in bash with 1000 errors ^^
[05:05] <scrappy_> Jamie: sweet
[05:06] <Jamie> scrappy_: yupp.. hehe.. but im not sure i did it correct.. should i just copy anythinga nd ignore that stuff is named diffrently on my config?
[05:07] <soheil> hi room
[05:07] <RuarriS> whenever i try to install packages in synaptic i get the error "Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[05:07] <jbrosmer> ello
[05:07] <soheil> help me
[05:07] <soheil> I downloaded automake
[05:08] <soheil> now, how to install it?
[05:08] <jgpons> sto6ma9ch: doing it now., It wants to install two additional packages.
[05:08] <soheil> I downloaded automake
[05:08] <rockzman> Can someone help me with my grub?
[05:08] <soheil> now, how to install it?
[05:08] <jgpons> I'm allowing it to do so.
[05:08] <sto6ma9ch> jgpons: Accept those other two. They may be what's keepingthis from configuring.
[05:08] <adri_> hi everybody, i need your help to use mutella or GNutella. My connection workt perfectly but when i execute gnutella or mutella, it tells me that there is a problem whit my connection or with my firewall. but i have no firewall and i'm directly connected to my modem. Please help me!
[05:08] <erUSUL> soheil: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:08] <jgpons> Now it is trying to do the config again
[05:08] <erUSUL> !b-e > soheil
[05:09] <sh4dox> hii
[05:09] <soheil> what do u mean?
[05:09] <sto6ma9ch> jgpons: If you still have this package sitting in an unconfigured state, then I would suggest running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure vmware-player". This will allow you to reconfigure the package and (hopefully) uninstall it after it's done being configured.
[05:09] <farmer> Is this the right place task for support?
[05:09] <jrib> farmer: yes
[05:09] <jgpons> sto6ma9ch didn't work. It does not reconfigure. It seems like the configure script is broken
[05:09] <rockzman> jrib: can ya help with my grub?
[05:10] <sh4dox> can someone help me out with a tiny probleme? i've been looking through the wikipages but can't find a solution for my tv out probleme
[05:10] <scrappy_> Jamie: you can always sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf-old and if you need to restore just sudo rm xorg.conf and sudo mv xorg.conf-old xorg.conf and use one of the config files pasted in the post but it looks like its going to be a little tweaking to get it right
[05:10] <funkja> Hi. I have onboard audio and a tv tuner. The video works fine on the tv tuner and the sound works fine if I use a cable to connect my audio out on my tv tuner to my audio in on my motherboard. Is there a way that I can set my TV Tuner to act like a sound card so I don't have to use the cable between the card on my board?
[05:10] <bruenig> rockzman, what is your grub issue
[05:10] <jrib> rockzman: just ask your question to the channel and if someone knows how to help they will try
[05:11] <farmer> jrib: Do you know at all how to make a .lnk(win shortcut) under linux in a mounted fat partition?
[05:11] <Jamie> scrappy_: hum ok.
[05:11] <jgpons> dpkg-reconfigure fails too (it reports the package as broken)
[05:11] <rockzman> bruenig: when i choose my windows OS on the list my computer restarts what does that means?
[05:11] <Hyperpenguin> I've got a question. Can I put the partitions for Ubuntu in an extended partition and have it work okay?
[05:11] <erUSUL> farmer: fat does not support links
[05:11] <sto6ma9ch> jgpons: What about reinstalling the package with "sudo apt-get install vmware-player --reinstall"?
[05:11] <Shinzetsu> how do I delete all files in a folder, without deleting the folder itself?
[05:11] <bruenig> rockzman, paste your menu.lst in the pastebin
[05:12] <scrappy_> Jamie: in other words copy their xorg.conf and you can always sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if it screws up
[05:12] <bruenig> and give a link
[05:12] <bruenig> !pastebin
[05:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:12] <farmer> ierusul: it does under win
[05:12] <rockzman> bruenig: sure
[05:12] <rockzman> bruenig: it just stop entering
[05:12] <rockzman> bruenig: where is my menu.lst?
[05:12] <Jamie> scrappy_: but i need to reboot when i changed the config right?
[05:12] <jgpons> I'll try
[05:12] <bruenig> Shinzetsu, do something like this rm -rf /path/to/whatever/*
[05:12] <scrappy_> Jamie: no just /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:12] <bruenig> rockzman, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:13] <erUSUL> farmer: well you have noticed that linux! = windows, haven't you ? ;)
[05:13] <soheil> how to install a new fonnt under ubuntu?
[05:13] <rockzman> k
[05:13] <Shinzetsu> bruenig: thanks, worked
[05:13] <Jamie> scrappy_: aah.. tahnx that will make stuff easier
[05:13] <soheil> :)
[05:13] <soheil> I'm new to ubuntu:)
[05:13] <sh4dox> :( my tv out won't work :(
[05:13] <jrib> Shinzetsu: you may need to use .* as well if there are any hidden files
[05:13] <farmer> erusul: what i am trying to do is mount a fat partition and then link the .wine dir to that
[05:13] <soheil> I'm new to ubuntu:)
[05:14] <soheil> how to install a new fonnt under ubuntu?
[05:14] <jrib> !font > soheil
[05:14] <Netcad> Anyone know how to do commandline s/mime ?
[05:14] <erUSUL> farmer: you can not do that as i've said fat does not support unixlike links
[05:14] <farmer> erusul: cause i am having truble with wine looking for the wrong case
[05:14] <farmer> (as in case sensistive)
[05:14] <jgpons> sto6ma9ch... thanks for your supportt. I'm still stuck at the same point. I'll try to do something radical :)
[05:14] <sto6ma9ch> jgpons: Really sorry, but I have to get going (reunion, what fun!).
[05:15] <jrib> erUSUL: might he be able to make a symlink named .wine to the mounted fat partition?
[05:15] <rockzman> bruenig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20453
[05:15] <jgpons> sto6ma9ch: thanks anyway! Have a nice day
[05:15] <frogzoo> Netcad: apt-cache search mime
[05:15] <bruenig> rockzman, what partition is windows on
[05:15] <bruenig> ?
[05:16] <JackMacOKC> I have an Athlon64 4400 X2, which is better - amd64 or k7 kernel?
[05:16] <farmer> jrib: yes but wine expects c and other dirs to point to drive_c
[05:16] <Netcad> frogzoo ?
[05:16] <farmer> jrib: when I copy those files to the new part it wont copy the links
[05:17] <rockzman> bruenig: hda2
[05:17] <frogzoo> JackMacOKC: for desktop, 32bit is better supported - go k7
[05:17] <funkja> Is there a way to manually add a sound card?
[05:17] <scrappy_> JackMacOKC: youll have alot less trouble on the 32bit k7 kernel and not notice a decrease in speed
[05:17] <JackMacOKC> frogzoo: and k7 automatically includes SMP support, right?
[05:17] <rockzman> bruenig: u did read me ? hda2
[05:17] <sh4dox> someone who can help me with my tv out probleme? my tv screen keeps black while i can see my movie on my notebook :s
[05:17] <bruenig> rockzman, it is on the second partition on your hard drive?
[05:17] <rockzman> bruenig: sim
[05:17] <farmer> jrib: I was wondering whether wine will evalute .lnk files
[05:18] <rockzman> bruenig: sorry yeap
[05:18] <farmer> jrib: do you know at all?
[05:18] <JackMacOKC> scrappy_: what kind of troubles are typical, in a nutshell?
[05:18] <bruenig> windows doesn't like being second
[05:18] <adri_> help me please! when i do "open" in mutella it tells me this stange message: All initial GWebCaches appear to be invalid or unreacheable. Supply working Gnutella web cache URLs or verify your internet connection. Currectly it is impossible to initiate connection to the Gnutella network"
[05:18] <rockzman> bruenig: well it have been working since i installed my ubuntu now it just restarts when i choose windows ^.-
[05:18] <JackMacOKC> window 1
[05:19] <Bernardo> hi
[05:19] <frogzoo> bruenig: depends which version of doze - xp doesn't mind
[05:19] <effer> is there a p2p client that downloads from the same sources as limewire, but isn't JAVA?
[05:19] <scrappy_> JackMacOKC: most things will work but there will be problems with maybe win32 codecs flash etc
[05:19] <rockzman> bruenig: could it simply bugs?
[05:20] <bruenig> rockzman, put up the pastebin again, maybe frogzoo can help, the entry looks fine
[05:20] <scrappy_> JackMacOKC: ive heard never tried it yet
[05:20] <rockzman> frogzoo: yo can ya ?
[05:20] <bruenig> looked like mine when I dual booted long ago
[05:20] <jrib> farmer: I understand your problem now.  I don't think wine will follow windows .lnk files like symlinks.  How come you need it to be on fat?  Can't you use ext3 instead?
[05:20] <bruenig> except modified for hd(0,0)
[05:20] <JackMacOKC> scrappy_: ahh, yeah thats important for me to have. well i installed and am currently running amd64, so i guess i need to apt-get the k7 kernel. i can do that and not reinstall right? or is it better to just start over?
[05:21] <rockzman> frogzoo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20453
[05:21] <frogzoo> JackMacOKC: not sure if k7 is smp enabled, but I'd say it was pretty likely
[05:21] <Netcad> frogzoo : What's that got to do with anything?
[05:21] <bruenig> effer, http://www.gnutelliums.com/linux_unix/
[05:21] <frogzoo> Netcad: there's literaly dozens of mime cli tools
[05:21] <effer> bruenig, thank you :)
[05:22] <EpP> I hear about some cool new browser besides forefox for ubuntu, anyone know what its called?
[05:22] <rockzman> frogzoo: do you mind? helping me?
[05:22] <bruenig> EpP, opera, epiphany, there are lots
[05:23] <elmato> opera > firefox ... although it seems to run rather slow in linux for me
[05:23] <bruenig> epiphany is a gnome-like browser in icons and feeling, perhaps that is cool?
[05:23] <EpP> bruenig, it does blogging easily... I saw it at an ubunutu meeting.
[05:23] <Netcad> frogzoo : Fine. Here's the problem.
[05:23] <EpP> bruenig, starts with and f or an r?
[05:23] <EpP> maybe
[05:23] <tarzeau> elmato: links2 > opera
[05:24] <elmato> lol
[05:24] <elmato> sif
[05:24] <FennyLap> hey guys.. can someone help me mount my ntfs storage drives please?
[05:24] <bruenig> oh I know what you are talking about, I forgot what it was called
[05:24] <jrib> !ntfs > FennyLap
[05:24] <Netcad> frogzoo : Typically email programs these days, in order to support gpg, detach things like signatures. So the body needs to be generated first, so that it can be signed, and then the attachment added.
[05:24] <frogzoo> rockzman: that looks ok to me, was this working? if so, what changed?
[05:24] <tarzeau> EpP: dillo?
[05:24] <bruenig> it was championed as a web 2.0 browser
[05:24] <FennyLap> hehe
[05:24] <Netcad> frogzoo : Its something thats normally built into mailclient, because its dependant data.
[05:24] <FennyLap> well this was a windows box.. and I installed ubuntu last night
[05:25] <effer> bruenig, i already have gtk-gnutella....it downloads from the same sources as limewire?
[05:25] <FennyLap> and I have these ntfs drivers that are soley for storage
[05:25] <EpP> tarzeau, i dont think so...
[05:25] <Netcad> frogzoo : So what I'm looking for is a way to encrypt mail on the command line in a way thats hospitatal to mail clients that decrypt via s/mime.
[05:25] <bruenig> effer gnutella is the network all of those clients run on
[05:25] <effer> bruenig, ah, ok....i've never actually used gtk-gnutella, i just installed it when i first installed ubuntu...i'll give it a shot now, thanks for the help :)
[05:25] <interfear> whats a good wifi card for ubuntu that works flawless out of the box?
[05:26] <Netcad> frogzoo : Its not something so simple as cat message | gpg --encrypt -r ID | mutt address -s "Title"
[05:26] <polpak> !wireless
[05:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:26] <Netcad> frogzoo : And there should be something easier than cat message | gpg --encrypt -r ID > mktemp; mutt address -s "Title" -a whatevertempwascreated
[05:26] <jrib> FennyLap: did you get the private message from ubotu?
[05:27] <FennyLap> ya I did.. im checking it out now
[05:27] <polpak> interfear: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[05:27] <bruenig> effer, you can get limewire for linux if you want, it was on that link I sent you
[05:27] <bruenig> the page is formatted poorly so you have to scroll to the right
[05:27] <FennyLap> but I am running dapper
[05:27] <FennyLap> so it should automatically work right
[05:28] <tuna> !ntfs > tuna
[05:28] <jrib> FennyLap: what should?
[05:28] <Netcad> frogzoo : Its not a well described (or commonly used) process, so I'm asking in the off chance someone has already done it in hopes that I don't have to spend 4 days picking apart rfcs. You grok?
[05:28] <FennyLap> it should automatically mount
[05:28] <rockzman> can someone help me with my brug?
[05:28] <rockzman> can someone help me with my grub?
[05:29] <jrib> FennyLap: I believe you still need to set them up in fstab using the directions on the wiki, though I haven't used a fresh dapper install so I could be wrong
[05:29] <frogzoo> rockzman: that looks ok to me, was this working? if so, what changed?
[05:29] <FennyLap> ya
[05:29] <FennyLap> I think they are messed up :\
[05:29] <rockzman> frogzoo: that is why i am confused
[05:30] <Taxman2> ok, sory, dumb question, I couldn't quickly find in the docs. Where does add/remove apps store the package files it downloads?
[05:30] <rockzman> frogzoo: nothing has been changed, what possibly could had happened ?
[05:30] <bruenig> rockzman, you don't need windows anyway
[05:30] <ag0ny> how do i turn PREEMPT off?
[05:30] <bruenig> :P
[05:30] <elmato> FennyLap : If you just installed dapper, and had the ntfs plugged in while you installed it they most likely got automatically added to fstab. They should be mounted in /media/hda1 etc...
[05:30] <soheil> what is the word 'server' that mostly is used in ubuntu documentation?
[05:31] <elmato> Keep in mind they will be mounted Read only...
[05:31] <rockzman> bruenig: i have some windows applications that does not run properly on linux :)
[05:31] <bruenig> rockzman, like what
[05:31] <soheil> what is the word 'server' that mostly is used in ubuntu documentation?
[05:31] <cacious> !ubuntu
[05:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[05:31] <FennyLap> elmato,  they didnt... I had troubles before if installing grub in the wrong mbr.. so I had everything discconected
[05:31] <theverant> does Ubuntu/KDE have some kind of level or EQ control outside of the audio players? Both XMMS and Amarok sound like crap unless I turn down the EQ.
[05:31] <FennyLap> that way I could ensure there were no problems
[05:31] <elmato> hehe fair enough
[05:32] <soheil> what is the word 'server' that mostly is used in ubuntu documentation?
[05:32] <z3r0_d> is there a howto for installing nvidia's nforce audio drivers in ubuntu?
[05:32] <bruenig> !nvidia
[05:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:32] <soheil> couldn't find anythibng on the net
[05:32] <z3r0_d> ... or at least something that's more specific about the config files that need editing...?
[05:32] <frogzoo> Netcad: yeh, see the problem, take a look around, should be something like this
[05:33] <frogzoo> Taxman2: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[05:33] <cacious> how can i get the full support for NTFS?
[05:33] <erizzle> is dapper the newest ubuntu avail? or is there a newer one yet?
[05:33] <z3r0_d> erizzle, there's 6.06.1 ...
[05:33] <javb> Using XMMS, under ubuntu 6.06. Cant play remote files using SMB protocol. Any way i can do this?
[05:34] <neutrinomass> !ntfs
[05:34] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:34] <rockzman> !grub
[05:34] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:34] <neutrinomass> Ahh, it doesn't mention ntfs-3g
[05:34] <jrib> erizzle: dapper is the latest stable
[05:34] <Taxman2> frogzoo: there's only two in there, but I have several installed, IIRC
[05:34] <elmato> full ntfs support is still kinda experimental... have a look at http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23836054&forum_id=2697
[05:34] <neutrinomass> cacious: ntfs-3g is probably your best chance to get write support for NTFS but it is DANGEROUS and NOT recommended
[05:34] <neutrinomass> !ntfs-3g > cacious
[05:34] <carlos> hi
[05:34] <erizzle> does ubuntu work like debian where I can just change dapper to unstable to get the latest greatest stuff?
[05:35] <polpak> erizzle: dapper is the most current release of ubuntu.  the next version "Edgy" is in development
[05:35] <carlos> how can I install postfix with virtual domains ?
[05:35] <adri_> my cache in mutella are currently not valid. Can someone give me valid caches please???
[05:35] <polpak> erizzle: dapper is pretty recent.
[05:35] <erizzle> anyone running Edgy? is it usable yet?
[05:35] <polpak> erizzle: probably not
[05:35] <rockzman> frogzoo: yo dude when i set debug mode on where can i read what is  happening?
[05:35] <polpak> erizzle: ubuntu is on a 6 month release cycle
[05:35] <rockzman> frogzoo: about Grab..
[05:35] <erizzle> polpak: I can't get everything installed needed to compile fluxbox
[05:36] <wiking> are here any alternative like Blender?
[05:36] <jrib> erizzle: fluxbox is in the repositories, do you want to compile it?
[05:36] <erizzle> polpak: I get broken dependencies
[05:36] <polpak> erizzle: 1) you don't need to compile fluxbox, it's in the repos   2) you probably can compile it because it's in the repos
[05:36] <z3r0_d> wiking, alternative what?
[05:36] <polpak> !info fluxbox
[05:36] <ubotu> fluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.14-2 (dapper), package size 720 kB, installed size 2288 kB
[05:36] <rockzman> Can someone tell me where is the path of the logs of Grub when I set debug mode on
[05:37] <wiking> z3r0_d, are any other 3d modeller
[05:37] <EpP> wiking, blender?
[05:37] <z3r0_d> wings3d is very good, but it doesn't have any features beyond modeling
[05:37] <adri_> my caches in mutella are currently not valid. Can someone give me valid caches please???
[05:37] <frogzoo> rockzman: try the grub setup mentioned here: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/36888-grub-wont-boot-windows-xp.html
[05:38] <erizzle> a. the version of fluxbox in the repos are old 2. I have updated debs for my debian box and it's much faster and I'd like my gf's computer to run the same but I use debian and I installed dapper for her. I really don't feel like reformatting and loading debian just to get a more recent fluxbox
[05:38] <dave18719> fa
[05:38] <dave18719> !botsnack
[05:38] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:38] <dave18719> !botsnack
[05:38] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:38] <wiking> how to find wings3d?
[05:38] <Doodluv> heh
[05:39] <erizzle> I like ubuntu but it seems like it really wasn't made for advanced users
[05:39] <z3r0_d> wiking, it's in the repositories... it should show up in synaptic and the add/remove thing
[05:39] <jrib> erizzle: apt-get build-dep fluxbox,  I've compiled latest fluxbox fine on dapper
[05:39] <z3r0_d> wiking, find tutorials from http://wings3d.com/
[05:39] <wiking> z3r0_d, ok! Thanx!
[05:40] <txx2> hello, can someone tell me the kernel version of ubuntu 6.10 edgy eft?
[05:40] <Hyperpenguin> Hmm.
[05:40] <veleno> hello. can I safely install 6.0.6 over a debian/unstable, so that my personal (home) stuff is left untouched ?
[05:40] <polpak> erizzle: you're ignorance is showing. There's nothing to prevent you from compiling the new version
[05:40] <GeleGrodan> Need help with gnu grub, i remove my linux partion in windows (it was on a slave hdd) and now when i boot it try to load gnu grub and it  fails (run a live cd now) how to remove it ?
[05:40] <EpP> veleno, back it up on cd?
[05:40] <Masqy> when I install a newer version of an existing package, wjat should I do?
[05:41] <polpak> erizzle: especially if you are in fact an "advanced user"
[05:41] <Masqy> ( I compiled it myself (./configure and then make install )
[05:41] <Hyperpenguin> I used Gparted to make an extended partition with two logical partitions (ext2, ext3) and now Gparted can't determine the filesystem type.
[05:41] <adri_> my cache in mutella are currently not valid. Can someone give me valid caches please???
[05:41] <Masqy> shoud I just ./install ?
[05:41] <veleno> EpP, it's /very/ big
[05:41] <eyequeue> Masqy,no, apt-get install foo
[05:41] <EpP> veleno, im not sure. Maybe you could back it up on an external HD.
[05:42] <Masqy> eyequeue: I want the newest version, which is yet not supported with the package manager.
[05:42] <GeleGrodan> how to remove GNU GRUB?
[05:42] <ych> !microphone
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about microphone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <gorski> how to find specific files on other partitions?
[05:42] <ych> !mic
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <doublehp> GeleGrodan: why would waht to do that  ?
[05:42] <Masqy> will it break the installation, that is, if later that version will be avilable, what should I do
[05:42] <Masqy> specifically, how do I uninstall such a package in a "clean" way afterwards
[05:42] <Masqy> ?
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> newest verison of what?
[05:42] <GeleGrodan> doublehp: it fails to load, becouse i remove my linux partion
[05:43] <GeleGrodan> now i cant load windows..
[05:43] <Masqy> Dr_Willis: lets' say emule, or wxwidgets, which is needed for it.
[05:43] <gorski> how to find specific files on second partitions?
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> GeleGrodan,  boot the XP cd. and enter its rescue mode. use 'fixmbr' command.
[05:43] <steveO_> veleno: Highly doubt that'd work.  Back up your /home dir, wipe out, then put your home dir in place
[05:43] <munsa> PLEASE HELP!!!
[05:43] <doublehp> GeleGrodan: so, if you dont have linux at all, you need to boot MS floppy or live CD, and run fdisk /MBR
[05:43] <munsa> Wow Awsome I can finally type!
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> Masqy,  one way is to use that 'klik' installer page/method.. anotehr is to use the source but install it in your USERS directory. not the system wide ones.
[05:43] <Masqy> I'm afraid that other programs that use my wxwidgets will not function properly
[05:44] <GeleGrodan> Dr_Willis: it must be exact same? got windows xp media center, but only window xp cd..
[05:44] <GeleGrodan> it works ?
[05:44] <GeleGrodan> i try later.. food time
[05:44] <munsa> Someone please help me, I tried to install XGL and now I am having wsome wack graphical problems.
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> GeleGrodan,  any of them whould work. 'fixmbr' is the xp way of doing it now.
[05:44] <polpak> !xgl > munsa
[05:44] <Masqy> Dr_Willis: that is in the /usr/... path?
[05:44] <munsa> IIs there a way to make it go back to normal?
[05:44] <GeleGrodan> hope not dad try to use the computer =)
[05:44] <polpak> !xgl
[05:44] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:44] <EpP> should I install ubuntu on my desktop or keep XP, because i have ubuntu on my ppc laptop
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> Masqy,  users home dir. ie: dont isntall stuff system wide.. is 'safest'
[05:44] <polpak> use #ubuntu-xgl for xgl support
[05:45] <Masqy> but  the problem is I need some dependencies, that is I have to install 2 packages that will relay on one another, and then I probably have to run fdconfig
[05:45] <Netcad> frogzoo :There's not something easy to find. That's why I'm asking if someone else has already done it before I bury my nose in the s/mime rfc, libgpgme and some "libsmtp" for a week.
[05:46] <Linuturk> ok, i got a problem
[05:46] <Linuturk> whenever I run a program via wine
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> Masqy,  if using .deb packages then you have to isntall them system wide as far as i know.. if using source.. the user can install all that stuff in their own dir.
[05:46] <munsa> I am having some serious problems here with my Gnome
[05:46] <munsa> can someone help me please
[05:47] <Linuturk> munsa, just ask
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> munsa,  now ya know why i dont mess with XGL.    XGL support is in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:47] <Backeman> Hi! Is it hard to setup squid?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> Backeman,  rather trivial last i messed with it.
[05:47] <Masqy> Dr_Willis: so how will the , say, newest amule, will know to refer to the newest wxwidgets, which are both installed in my /home/user dir ?
[05:47] <BlueEagle> munsa: not unless you describe the nature of the problem
[05:47] <Backeman> Dr_Willis: okey, then I'll give it a try, thanks
[05:47] <stian> Greetings, anyone know of decent alternatives to gtkpod for adding music and managaing playlists on an ipod nano=
[05:47] <stian> ?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> Masqy,  for a single app like that - i would check the 'klik' homepage and see if they have it..
[05:47] <munsa> Linuturk I messed up my gnome. I tried to install XGL and it was totally wacked out
[05:48] <munsa> Linuturk I removed it and now I am still having some wierd graphical problems
[05:48] <lix> Backeman: http://www.visolve.com/squid/sqguide.php
[05:48] <eyequeue> munsa, /join #ubuntu-xgl
[05:48] <munsa> I cant figure out how to get my computer back to normal
[05:48] <FennyLap> hey can someone help me with this fstab syntax
[05:48] <munsa> yea i know eye
[05:48] <FennyLap> ima bit worried that ill screw it up
[05:48] <munsa> i dont need xgl help i need ubuntu help
[05:48] <eyequeue> FennyLap, man 5 fstab
[05:48] <Warbo> Anyone know why 1280x1024 is not available to xrandr after I added it with dpkg-reconfigure, and checked xorg.conf and it is there? (My monitor goes up to 1024x768 by the way)
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> munsa,  yep. :P had similer issues.. xgl is a little messed up. in the 'how do i remove it dept.'
[05:48] <erizzle> whoever just said they compiled fluxbox on dapper, did you use any special switches? like --prefix=/usr or anything else?
[05:48] <FennyLap> I wanna add /dev/hdb1 to the list
[05:49] <Linuturk> Whenever I run a full screen application via wine, it moves my desktop applets all around on the top panel. The bottom panel is unaffected. I've tried locking them to the panel, and they still move.
[05:49] <Bernardo> I'm having problems with running samba as a PDC on a ubuntu machine. I have one other ubuntu machine that is working well with the domain, and another that can't join the domain anymore. All have the latest samba (3.0.22-1ubuntu)
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> munsa,  the xgl guys proberly know the correct way to remove it. I sure dont.
[05:49] <Backeman> lix: wow, thanks! ;)
[05:49] <munsa> Dr_Willis - what do you suggest?
[05:49] <lix> Backeman: np
[05:49] <Bernardo> anyone can help me with samba?
[05:49] <Doodluv> Backeman: http://www.deckle.co.za/squid-users-guide/Main_Page
[05:49] <munsa> I removed it as far as I know
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> munsa,  reread the docs for xgl.. reverse the steps.. if that dont work.. ask the xgl guys why their docs dont have a good  howto unstall feature. They may hafve a url that details the proper way to remove it.
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> munsa,  its posslble you missed a step.
[05:50] <munsa> Dr_Willis yea thats what I did.
[05:50] <Masqy> Dr_Willis, what is 'klik' ?
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> Masqy,   http://klik.atekon.de/
[05:50] <munsa> Dr_Willis I am in my gui now, but it is wacked out
[05:50] <munsa> really sucks
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> munsa,  now ya know why i tell everyone that xgl is a 'work in progress'
[05:50] <adri_> my caches in mutella are currently not valid. Can someone give me valid caches please???
[05:51] <Bernardo> was there any update to samba in ubuntu this last two weeks that might have broken the PDC?
[05:51] <munsa> Dr_Willis yea, it actyally looked like it worked
[05:51] <munsa> but then it was bam i couldnt do anything
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> munsa,  i never have gotten it to work right.
[05:51] <munsa> so i removed it and now I can move around, but like I cant close any of my windows, I cant move them eather with the mouse.
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> munsa,  then i tested out a live cd and saw all the nausa inducing special effects..
[05:52] <munsa> Dr_Willis which live CD I just wanted to see the cool effects
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> munsa,  ive also seen several different install docs for it..  and some of them were vague. :P
[05:52] <munsa> ya know
[05:52] <FennyLap> can I not write to my nfts drives?
[05:52] <munsa> there are a million of them
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> munsa,  koronna or somthing like that.
[05:52] <munsa> ive no idea what to do now
[05:52] <munsa> ahh yea
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> munsa,  make a new user. see if it affects them as well.
[05:52] <glen_> !ntfs-3g
[05:52] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[05:53] <soheil> what does this mean:E: Package automake has no installation candidate
[05:53] <Stormx2> soheil: It means automake isn't in your current repos
[05:53] <soheil> I ran apt-get install automake
[05:53] <Stormx2> soheil: OK.
[05:53] <soheil> how to include it?
[05:53] <Stormx2> soheil: Add multiverse and universe
[05:54] <Stormx2> !repos
[05:54] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:54] <soheil> I'll go eat something
[05:54] <ag0ny> why is dapperdrake coming with a preempt kernel and modules that dont run with preempt?
[05:54] <soheil> then, I will
[05:54] <soheil> god willing
[05:54] <eyequeue> Stormx2, no
[05:54] <Stormx2> eyequeue: oh?
[05:54] <eyequeue> soheil, wrong package name, not a repo issue
[05:55] <Stormx2> Im sorry
[05:55] <Stormx2> its automake-1.9
[05:55] <Stormx2> isn't it?
[05:55] <eyequeue> soheil, automake1.9 for example
[05:55] <Stormx2> I just installed it too XD
[05:55] <eyequeue> Stormx2, right :)
[05:55] <Stormx2> but i forgot.
[05:55] <ssddss> Hi, i'm trying to load XGL+Compiz with an ATI Xpress 200M. Everything has been installed fine, but, setting the xgl display at 1, there is no graphic acceleration, and setting in in the display 0, there a a lot of odd effects. What am i doing wrong? Maybe i should use gdm instead of kdm?
[05:55] <^osh^> How much difference is there between debian and ubuntu? If I make a debian package, will it end up in ubuntu? And how long will that take? Next release or sometime sooner?
[05:55] <munsa> there is no like... sustem restore thing in gnome? that reverts defaults??
[05:55] <Stormx2> ^osh^: Next release.
[05:56] <Stormx2> munsa: What needs resetting to defaults?
[05:56] <^osh^> Stormx2: So everything is picked from debian unstable and tested for ubuntu, right?
[05:56] <ych> anyone here use teamspeak?
[05:57] <eyequeue> Stormx2, he installed xgl, now wants normal gnome
[05:57] <munsa> Stormx2 well my whole gui is messed up. I tried installing
[05:57] <munsa> yea
[05:57] <Sir_Brizz> ych, yea
[05:57] <munsa> i tried installing xgl and now its messed up and I want to go back to normal
[05:57] <ych> how do you unmute?
[05:57] <Sir_Brizz> depends on why it's muted
[05:57] <ych> i'm muted, and clicking the "mute" icon again does nothing
[05:57] <ych> im not sure why
[05:57] <ych> installed it for the first time
[05:57] <ych> and i defaulted as muted
[05:57] <ssddss> has anyone managed to install xgl+compiz with KDE and KDM?
[05:57] <xc> hey all. I was wondering if I could install ubuntu on a powerbook g4 as a dual boot option while keeping my current osx installation. I currently have 3 partitions on my hd, so I could dedicate one of those to linux
[05:58] <ych> the mic works
[05:58] <polpak> !xgl
[05:58] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:58] <munsa> Stormx2 do you think you can help me?
[05:58] <ych> i can hear myself over the speakers when i talk
[05:58] <ych> but teamspeak remainst muted
[05:58] <munsa> polpak thanks AGAIN
[05:58] <polpak> munsa: that is for ssddss ;p
[05:59] <munsa> ???
[05:59] <Stormx2> munsa: Hmm, I don't know. I did the same thing yesterday and ended up reinstalling dapper.
[05:59] <munsa> really?
[05:59] <munsa> baaa
[05:59] <munsa> no way
[05:59] <Stormx2> But it depends.
[05:59] <Sir_Brizz> ych, I had that same problem but I can't remember how I resolved it...
[05:59] <Stormx2> What is messed up with the GUI?
[05:59] <Stormx2> fonts?
[05:59] <cacious> ekiga!
[05:59] <munsa> Stormx2 XGL
[05:59] <ssddss> i've read the howto. thanks for the information. However, i'm still having that weird problem
[06:00] <munsa> Stormx2 now I cant move any of my windows or anything
[06:00] <Stormx2> munsa: Wait, you still want XGL?
[06:00] <munsa> nooooo
[06:00] <Stormx2> Oh bummer.
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> lol
[06:00] <Stormx2> Did you make an xorg.conf backup?
[06:00] <Sir_Brizz> ych, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=248418
[06:00] <munsa> I want it sure, if it would work right
[06:00] <munsa> i dunno
[06:00] <cacious> !ekiga
[06:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ekiga - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <eyequeue> ask the #ubuntu-xgl people how to get rid of it
[06:01] <munsa> e #ubuntu-xgl Empty
[06:01] <Stormx2> Is there not a section of the guide for uninstalling?
[06:01] <eyequeue> bummer
[06:01] <Stormx2> Its not.
[06:01] <Stormx2> 49 people in it.
[06:01] <Hyperpenguin> Yay! Ubuntu is installung itself now! ^_^ thanks for all the help
[06:01] <Carmenizer> "Wrote partition table, but re-read failed."
[06:01] <elmato> munsa... you're not alone... that is exactly what happened to me
[06:01] <Carmenizer> why is it happenin
[06:01] <ssddss> eywqueue, thanks
[06:01] <Stormx2> Carmenizer: It just happens
[06:01] <Stormx2> Carmenizer: It doesn't matter.
[06:01] <Carmenizer> what do i need to do?
[06:01] <Stormx2> Carmenizer: If in doubt, reboot.
[06:01] <Carmenizer> it wont work
[06:02] <eyequeue> ssddss, :)
[06:02] <Carmenizer> i cannot make bootable partition
[06:02] <Carmenizer> it just keeps saying that
[06:02] <Carmenizer> "Wrote partition table, but re-read failed."
[06:02] <Stormx2> Carmenizer: The installer says that?
[06:02] <Carmenizer> always when i try make bootable partition
[06:02] <Carmenizer> dude im not talkin about installer
[06:02] <Stormx2> Dude the installer handles it.
[06:02] <evan_w00> why does it say "you do not have permission to write to this folder" on my memory stick
[06:02] <Stormx2> all partitioning can be done from the installer >.<
[06:02] <Stormx2> evan_w00: Its been mounted as root?
[06:03] <Stormx2> evan_w00: I wouldn't know why tho
[06:03] <evan_w00> Stormx2 oh, how do I do that >.<
[06:03] <djk_> how can i check which kernel modules are used for my eth0 and eth1?
[06:03] <Stormx2> evan_w00: Actually more likey it has a FS that ubuntu doesn't support
[06:03] <evan_w00> Stormx2 ohhh ok
[06:04] <Carmenizer> so ur saying
[06:04] <Carmenizer> i have to delete all the partition and make completely new
[06:04] <Stormx2> evan_w00: Go to System > Administration > Disks, Does it show up in there
[06:04] <silentj> Hey! I created a new user and it looks like everything is back to normal
[06:04] <Stormx2> Carmenizer: NO.
[06:04] <Stormx2> Carmenizer: When on earth did I say that?
[06:04] <Stormx2> Carmenizer: Use the installer to partition >.<
[06:04] <silentj> Stormx2 is there a way to fix my other user?
[06:04] <evan_w00> Stormx2 yep
[06:04] <evan_w00> Stormx2 it shows up as "hard disk" but its a pro duo memory stick
[06:05] <Stormx2> evan_w00: Thats OK
[06:05] <Stormx2> evan_w00: Select it, and have a look under "partitions". What is the filesystem?
[06:05] <evan_w00> Stormx2 oh geez, FAT
[06:05] <magus_x> is there anyway to run ajax on mozilla?
[06:05] <Stormx2> silentj: Fix what, sorry?
[06:06] <slacker> does anyone know how to display the version of ubuntu (cli)?
[06:06] <FennyLap> hey guys.. how can I change the access to this new mount point?
[06:06] <FennyLap> only root can seem to access it
[06:06] <silentj> Stormx2 I am munsa I logged onto another user and everything is working fine... question is, is there a way that I can restore my other user? or just bite it?
[06:06] <scrappy_> slacker: i think it cat /etc/lsb_release
[06:06] <magus_x> "ajax isn't a known protocol"
[06:06] <Stormx2> silentj: Hmm.
[06:07] <jadams> I have a nasty, nasty bug with my X now...the video output is terribly scrambled
[06:07] <Stormx2> silentj: You could delete the config of the other user I suppose.
[06:07] <slacker> thnx scrappy_
[06:07] <silentj> Because everything is perfect here
[06:07] <slacker> just what I needed
[06:07] <scrappy_> slacker: its /etc/lsb-release
[06:07] <wiking> when i am trying start wings3D - terminal say that i need install openGL drivers - how to do it?
[06:07] <buttercup|> hi there
[06:07] <magus_x> is there anyway to run ajax on mozilla? because im getting "ajax isn't a known protocol"
[06:07] <silentj> how can i access the files of the other user?
[06:07] <slacker> scrappy_: yes :) I just cat'ed the file
[06:07] <jadams> I was having problems viewing fullscreen video, so I turned off glx...X wouldn't boot, I switched to vesa, and my graphics got corrupted (even in console, they were extremely staticky all the time)
[06:08] <Stormx2> magus_x: Eek
[06:08] <jadams> rebooted, reinstalled nvidia drivers, and now my display is corrupted
[06:08] <Stormx2> magus_x: Like, javascript, yeah?
[06:08] <slacker> silentj: depends on the permissions
[06:08] <Stormx2> silentj: sudo
[06:08] <slacker> silentj: but with root you can
[06:08] <magus_x> Stormx2, : i dont know what it is exaclty, but i need it
[06:08] <jadams> like, gdm shows up in scrambled pieces - rendered correctly, but it looks liek a poorly assembled puzzle
[06:08] <buttercup|> just installed dapper using the alternate cd, everything fine so far, but when i want to boot the systems it somehow always hangs at "saving VESA state"
[06:08] <Stormx2> jadams: Turn on glx and switch back to X?
[06:08] <jadams> magus_x: ajax isn't a protocol though, seriously
[06:08] <Stormx2> jadams: Mine does that sometimes when i reboot X
[06:08] <wiking> when i am trying start wings3D - terminal say that i need install openGL drivers - how to do it?
[06:08] <jadams> magus_x: what are you trying to access?
[06:08] <jadams> Stormx2: no luck
[06:09] <magus_x> jadams, : a website who needs ajax
[06:09] <magus_x> it is like java, but better IMO
[06:09] <eyequeue> silentj, ls -lad /home/munsa/.gnome*
[06:09] <Stormx2> magus_x: Um
[06:09] <jadams> magus_x: I'm a web developer, I know what ajax is
[06:09] <jadams> it is not 'like java'
[06:09] <Stormx2> magus_x: Do you understand AJAX? yeah?
[06:09] <magus_x> no
[06:09] <buttercup|> i tried the recovery mode to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and startx worked afterwards, but still the system doesn't boot when not using "recovery mode"
[06:09] <tuxtheslacker> hey.
[06:09] <magus_x> but i need :~
[06:09] <jadams> it's a process for handing data back and forth dynamicaly  :)
[06:09] <jadams> magus_x: there's no 'installing' ajax
[06:09] <tuxtheslacker> can you guys do me a huge favor, and send me info on installing flash?
[06:09] <Stormx2> magus_x: Dude
[06:09] <jadams> it uses XMLHTTPRequest from your browser
[06:09] <wiking> when i am trying start wings3D - terminal say that i need install openGL drivers - how to do it?
[06:09] <Stormx2> magus_x: Please think before you speak.
[06:09] <eyequeue> silentj, most of your gnome settings should be in those dirs
[06:09] <jadams> if you have firefox 1.0+ you have xmlhttprequest, definitely
[06:10] <magus_x> Stormx2, : , im new on linux, what you wanted me to say, -_-
[06:10] <Stormx2> magus_x: AJAX is a part of Javascript. Some browsers support it, some don't. Mozilla supports it.
[06:10] <jadams> or a kinda modern mozilla
[06:10] <Stormx2> magus_x: Its nothing to do with linux at all
[06:10] <jadams> magus_x: ajax is not related to linux though  :)
[06:10] <__mikem> AJAX is not a technology it is more of a technique
[06:10] <Stormx2> magus_x: Please, ask in #javascript
[06:10] <neildarlow> tuxtheslacker: it's on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki
[06:10] <buttercup|> just installed dapper using the alternate cd, everything fine so far, but when i want to boot the systems it somehow always hangs at "saving VESA state" - i tried the recovery mode to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and startx worked afterwards, but still the system doesn't boot when not using "recovery mode"
[06:10] <magus_x> -_-
[06:10] <slacker> tuxtheslacker: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_flash_player
[06:10] <wiking> when i am trying start wings3D - terminal say that i need install openGL drivers - how to do it?] 
[06:10] <slacker> tuxtheslacker: but its using wine
[06:10] <eyequeue> silentj, you could try tweaking them to be like /home/silentj/.gnome*
[06:10] <tuxtheslacker> neildarlow, it just tells me to install a package.
[06:10] <jadams> __mikem: seems an odd distinction at heart - processors are a 'technique' for placing transistors really close together  :)
[06:11] <tuxtheslacker> slacker, yeah, my gf has never used wine.
[06:11] <__mikem> lol interesting
[06:11] <wiking> HOW TO INSTALL OPENGL DRIVERS?
[06:11] <elmato> FennyLap : assuming you are still talking about your ntfs partition... try using the following mount options - users,owner,ro,umask=000
[06:11] <neildarlow> tuxtheslacker: that's all you need to do. it integrates into your browser
[06:11] <slacker> tuxtheslacker: http://smorgasbord.net/how_to_fix_flash_plugin_ubuntu_linux
[06:11] <slacker> this one is without wine
[06:11] <tuxtheslacker> neildarlow, you need to have a repo added, if I'm not mistaken.
[06:11] <eyequeue> !caps
[06:11] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:12] <qwerty2k> hey, does anyone know in anjuta how to see soruce code stats? (i,e number of total lines etc)
[06:12] <buttercup|> just installed dapper using the alternate cd, everything fine so far, but when i want to boot the systems it somehow always hangs at "saving VESA state" - i tried the recovery mode to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and startx worked afterwards, but still the system doesn't boot when not using "recovery mode"
[06:12] <wiking> sorry!
[06:12] <neildarlow> tuxtheslacker: probably multiverse
[06:12] <tuxtheslacker> neildarlow, I've opened that for her.
[06:12] <neildarlow> tuxtheslacker: are you using firefox?
[06:12] <scrappy_> buttercup|: will it boot if you add in grub noapic colapic nodma acpi=off vga=0x317
[06:12] <magus_x> oh
[06:12] <magus_x> worked now
[06:13] <magus_x> i had to install mozilla-firefox
[06:13] <tuxtheslacker> neildarlow, yes.
[06:13] <FennyLap> elmato, when I try to mount it with that option it says wrong fs type, bad optin,bad superblock
[06:13] <wiking> when i am trying start wings3D - terminal say that i need install openGL drivers - how to do it?] 
[06:13] <scrappy_> buttercup|: er the colapic should be nolapic
[06:13] <buttercup|> scrappy_ i already added noapic nolapic and acpi works fine (at least used to with dapper) but i'll try the rest
[06:14] <scrappy_> buttercup|: if it works try without the nodma because that would be a pain
[06:14] <wiking> Please help! When i am trying start wings3D - terminal say that i need install openGL drivers - how to do it?] 
[06:14] <neildarlow> tuxtheslacker: just install flashplugin-nonfee and about:plugins in firefox should show it
[06:14] <elmato> FennyLap ; that is how I have them in my fstab. I guess you need to take the commas out if your just using mount ?
[06:15] <Ricesteam> I left my pc on last night to copy some files from a dvd to my harddisk. Now, when I insert dvds into my drive, it does not automount anymore....what is wrong?
[06:15] <buttercup|> scrappy_ hmm now it somehow seems to work (bootsplash) - i used noapic nolapic nodma vga=0x317
[06:15] <slacker> Ricesteam: fuser $dvd_mount_point
[06:15] <FennyLap> "users,owner,ro,umask=000"
[06:15] <slacker> you will see which process or user is using the dvd
[06:15] <FennyLap> that should be my options column
[06:16] <Ricesteam> I rebooted my pc though
[06:16] <buttercup|> scrappy_ nope, the same thing, it hangs at "saving vesa state" - the difference is this time it has a splash screen...
[06:16] <slacker> mkay
[06:16] <elmato> FennyLap : $sudo mount -t ntfs -o users,owner,ro,umask=000 /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1
[06:16] <elmato> that is how I do it...
[06:16] <zoidberg> hey guys i have a problem
[06:16] <neildarlow> Ricesteam: my fstab didn't have noatime in options for my DVD line. copying files with nautilus nearly toasted the inserted DVD
[06:16] <FennyLap> elmato,
[06:16] <zoidberg> my PCMCIA services fail to start at boot?
[06:16] <FennyLap> must have been a typo
[06:16] <zoidberg> can anyone help me
[06:16] <FennyLap> that did it
[06:17] <slacker> Ricesteam: what is your /etc/fstab entry for your dvd?
[06:17] <Ricesteam> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[06:18] <Ricesteam> neildarlow: yes I used nautilus to copy the files as well
[06:18] <neildarlow> Ricesteam: i would add noatime to that if you read DVD-RWs
[06:18] <zoidberg> can anyone help me...my PCMCIA services fail to start at boot????
[06:18] <Ricesteam> its a DVD-R
[06:18] <FennyLap> thx elmato .. but I guess I cant write to these drives
[06:18] <scrappy_> buttercup|: id start doing chmod -x scriptname in /etc/init.d/ there is alot of stuff in there you dont needlike the mdadm and such
[06:18] <FennyLap> I need to install that new ntfs driver?
[06:18] <slacker> mmm, look the same as mine, and mine does auto moun ton insertion
[06:18] <elmato> no
[06:18] <blowie> does ubuntu support most network cards? driver wise?
[06:18] <slacker> Ricesteam: what does /var/log/messages say?
[06:19] <buttercup|> scrappy_ will the system still work after doing that?
[06:19] <neildarlow> FennyLap: i came across references to it on Ubuntu Planet today. it's not trivial but the guy has built some debs
[06:19] <Ricesteam> *** /var/log: directory ***
[06:19] <FennyLap> the luna park?
[06:20] <stian> What do I need to do to add mp3 support to Sound Juicer?
[06:20] <Ricesteam> neildarlow: so is this a bug with Nautilus?
[06:20] <eyequeue> !mp3
[06:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:20] <blowie> !drivers
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <neildarlow> Ricesteam: it seems to want to update atimes on DVD-RWs and it makes the DVD-RW very hot. i got lots of errors during copy without noatime
[06:21] <Ricesteam> neildarlow: how do I set noatime?
[06:21] <scrappy_> buttercup|: some of those you need but alot you do not see ubntuforums.org/showthread?t=89491
[06:21] <olliek> Hi my internet connection keeps crashing but if I use recovery mode it's ok. no plugins used - Frostwire also crashes
[06:21] <neildarlow> Ricesteam: just add ,noatime after noauto for your dvd line in fstab
[06:22] <buttercup|> scrappy_ k, thx
[06:22] <scrappy_> buttercup|: the mdadm and mdadmn-rain i would remove the executable flag from and see if it boots
[06:22] <Sasuk3> drugs are good!
[06:22] <Ricesteam> neildarlow: do I need to reboot?
[06:22] <javb> Using XMMS, under ubuntu 6.06. Cant play remote files using SMB protocol. Any way i can do this?
[06:22] <neildarlow> Sasuk3: only as prescribed :)
[06:22] <neildarlow> Ricesteam: no
[06:22] <rukuartic> has anyone fixed the problem with software mixing in lts? I'm still having problems with it and I can't get it to work.
[06:23] <neildarlow> Ricesteam: just unmount if it's already mounted
[06:23] <Ricesteam> neildarlow: thats the problem, it no longer mounts
[06:23] <wweasel> I am having strange GRUB problems.  It was working fine up to a few days ago, when it started taking 45 seconds to load when I boot my computer.  If I reboot my computer without turning it off, it worked normally.  Booting Linux also took a few minutes on first boot, then reg. 40 secs on reboots. I got an Error 16 once. I tried again and it worked fine.  Now I am getting an Error 18 and can't boot. Help?
[06:23] <elmato> FennyLap you can 'try' the ntfs-3g drivers... I have a mate who swears by them... I havent had time to test them out myself so I cant give any guarentees or anything.  Perhaps fire up windows and make another ntfs partition somewhere and put it through the paces.  I usually just have a nice big Fat32 partition sitting around incase I need to transfer anything between windows and linux
[06:23] <Sasuk3> someday we will see a distro of linux for hackers.. :O
[06:23] <Ricesteam> neildarlow: is my physical drive fried?
[06:24] <blowie> is there any documentation on driver support?
[06:24] <shriphani> guys can ya tell me if aoe2 works under wine :)
[06:24] <Armopu> hi all
[06:24] <neildarlow> Ricesteam: can you mount it manually? it might be the media, try another
[06:24] <Bazzi> Sasuk3: there are several already :)
[06:24] <Sasuk3> wich ones?
[06:24] <Ricesteam> neildarlow: it was working lastnite :(
[06:24] <Sasuk3> like wich ones? :P
[06:24] <Sasuk3> my english sux (L)
[06:24] <Armopu> does anybody know a web where can I  find all the possibilities of glx  and how to do them ? thanks
[06:24] <neildarlow> Ricesteam: most things work upto the point of breakage :)
[06:24] <Bazzi> auditor, backtrack, ...
[06:25] <scrappy_> Sasuk3: for pentesting alot use backtrack now ... different knoppix based stuff
[06:25] <Ricesteam> neildarlow: i dont want to reinstall Ubuntu ....
[06:25] <shriphani> guys can ya tell me if aoe2 works under wine :)
[06:25] <Sasuk3> ah yes col
[06:25] <scrappy_> Sasuk3: backtrack is based on slax i think though
[06:25] <Bazzi> they're all based on each other somehow :(
[06:25] <neildarlow> Ricesteam: you shouldn't need to. try mounting the DVD manually and look at any error messages at the console or in /var/log/messages or dmesg
[06:26] <eyequeue> !es > Sasuk3
[06:26] <Sasuk3> what can it have? nmap and other tools?
[06:26] <shriphani> erm people wine hangs while installing aoe 2 :(
[06:26] <Netcad> A Wireless card question. If using lspci I see "02:09.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 Multiprotocol MAC/baseband processor (rev 01)" - Does it mean it was Installed or just Detected ??? (I dont see it in ifconfig)
[06:26] <scrappy_> Sasuk3: big thing is wep cracking and sniffing nothing you cant do on ubuntu its just preloaded and working on the cd
[06:27] <Sasuk3> cool
[06:27] <neildarlow> Netcad: it's just seen on the bus
[06:27] <Ricesteam> neildarlow: cdroms work
[06:27] <Sasuk3> netcat
[06:27] <user-246> i heard somthing about free ubuntu cds :S
[06:27] <neildarlow> Ricesteam: but no DVD media?
[06:27] <Ricesteam> neildarlow: no :(
[06:28] <Paddy_EIRE> what do i sudo apt-get install inorder to get ms fonts and what do i do inorder for them to take effect
[06:28] <baldy1324> hi i am having a problem when i dist-upgraded from breezy to dapper some of my fonts aren't here
[06:28] <eyequeue> !shipit
[06:28] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org
[06:28] <borfast> Official Ubuntu support channel | If the repos are slow: use a mirror! | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | FAQ: hi everyone
[06:28] <borfast> oops...
[06:28] <neildarlow> Ricesteam: does lsmod show the udf module loaded?
[06:28] <borfast> sorry...
[06:28] <Hyperpenguin> Ack!
[06:28] <doraemon81> helo all, i found the my ubuntu has one veli strange program inside
[06:28] <doraemon81> let &termencoding=&encoding
[06:28] <doraemon81> set fileencodings=utf-8,gbk,ucs-bom,cp936
[06:28] <doraemon81> soli
[06:28] <Hyperpenguin> I can't log into Ubuntu after I installed it
[06:28] <doraemon81> yccheok@yccheok-desktop:/usr/bin$ ls -al [
[06:28] <doraemon81> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 24968 2006-05-06 01:50 [
[06:28] <doraemon81> yccheok@yccheok-desktop:/usr/bin$
[06:28] <Coffeegrinds> anyone know why all of a sudden I lost all audio from flash files in firefox, i tried reinstalling both firefox and flash.. same issue
[06:29] <Ricesteam> neildarlow: lsmod? how do I display that?
[06:29] <doraemon81> do u guys has tat '[' program too???
[06:29] <baldy1324> hi i am having a problem when i dist-upgraded from breezy to dapper some of my fonts aren't here
[06:29] <neildarlow> Ricesteam: just execute it
[06:29] <Hyperpenguin> Coffeegrinds, I have the same problem
[06:29] <Jell-O-Fishi> doraemon81 : it's supposed to be there.
[06:29] <Paddy_EIRE> what do i sudo apt-get install inorder to get ms fonts and what do i do inorder for them to take effect
[06:29] <Tremitos> no
[06:29] <Hyperpenguin> I know that Youtube broke its Linux support, not too sure of the others.
[06:29] <doraemon81> what is the purpose of '['?? even using backslash, i cannt execute it?
[06:29] <Ricesteam> neildarlow: yes i think its loaded
[06:29] <Coffeegrinds> I'm just curious if it's the fact that most places are REQUIREING flash 9
[06:30] <Jell-O-Fishi> doraemon81 : it's for conditions.
[06:30] <borfast> I'm trying to get an HP Photosmart 3180 scanner (multifunction printer/scanner, actually) working. The printer is working but I can't get the scanner to work. I already did a sane-find-scanner and it finds my scanner but then a scanimage -L says it can't find any scanner. can anyone help me or point me to some documentation, please?
[06:30] <Coffeegrinds> video.gooogle is the same
[06:30] <Jell-O-Fishi> doraemon81 :  you'll see it in shell scripts.
[06:30] <ct8ball> looking to manually edit my package lists..... entered one in the wrong format using the synaptic package manager... any help?
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> !easysource
[06:30] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:30] <Hyperpenguin> Maybe some Firefox update broke it or something.
[06:30] <wweasel> I am having strange GRUB problems.  A few days ago it started taking 45 seconds to load when I boot my computer, but worked normally on reboots.  Booting Linux also took a few minutes on first boot, then reg. 40 secs on reboots. I got an Error 16 once. I tried again and it worked fine.  Now I am getting an Error 18 and can't boot. Help?
[06:31] <eyequeue> doraemon81, man [
[06:31] <Ricesteam> slacker: this is the tail of my /var/log/messages: Aug 13 12:11:58 pete-ubuntu kernel: [17179677.756000]      Additional sense: No additional sense information
[06:31] <Ricesteam> Aug 13 12:11:58 pete-ubuntu kernel: [17179677.756000]  end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 0
[06:31] <Ricesteam> Aug 13 12:11:58 pete-ubuntu kernel: [17179677.764000]  sr 1:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x8000002
[06:31] <Ricesteam> Aug 13 12:11:58 pete-ubuntu kernel: [17179677.764000]  sr0: Current: sense key: Blank Check
[06:31] <Ricesteam> Aug 13 12:11:58 pete-ubuntu kernel: [17179677.764000]      Additional sense: No additional sense information
[06:31] <Ricesteam> Aug 13 12:11:58 pete-ubuntu kernel: [17179677.764000]  end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 0
[06:31] <Ricesteam> Aug 13 12:11:58 pete-ubuntu kernel: [17179677.936000]  attempt to access beyond end of device
[06:31] <borfast> ?sane
[06:31] <Jell-O-Fishi> eyequeue : i don't think there is one.
[06:31] <Ricesteam> Aug 13 12:11:58 pete-ubuntu kernel: [17179677.936000]  sr0: rw=0, want=68, limit=4
[06:31] <Ricesteam> Aug 13 12:11:58 pete-ubuntu kernel: [17179677.936000]  isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=sr0, iso_blknum=16, block=16
[06:31] <borfast> !sane
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sane - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <Ricesteam> Aug 13 12:30:34 pete-ubuntu -- MARK --
[06:31] <Coffeegrinds> thats what i thought but I've got portable firefox w32 ... and an i dea .. one minute and let me test this theory
[06:31] <Hyperpenguin> Ricesteam, pastebin.
[06:31] <eyequeue> Jell-O-Fishi, there is in dapper
[06:31] <Jell-O-Fishi> eyequeue : oook.
[06:31] <wweasel> !pastebin
[06:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:32] <Ricesteam> !pastebin
[06:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:32] <Ricesteam> ??
[06:32] <ct8ball> and where to I put that?
[06:32] <wweasel> yes. you flooded the channel
[06:32] <Megaqwerty> you can paste your info there.
[06:32] <Ricesteam> ok sorry,
[06:32] <ct8ball> where?
[06:32] <jame99> what is the difference between xchat-common_2.6.6-0ubuntu1_all.deb  and xchat_2.6.4-0ubuntu1_i386.deb     ?
[06:32] <Megaqwerty> then give us the url, and we will be able to see it
[06:32] <_axiom> When I run a make install with sudo, how can I still be getting 'Permisson Denied' when trying to create files?  Doesn't this mean I am running it as root?
[06:32] <_axiom> "/usr/bin/install: cannot create regular file `/usr/share/apps/kicker/applets/tastymenu.desktop': Permission denied"
[06:33] <zoidberg> guys i really need some help
[06:33] <eyequeue> jame99, 0.0.2
[06:33] <zoidberg> ubuntu does not seem to recognize my genereic intel soudncard on the motherboard....i think it is because PCMCIA services fail to start at boot?
[06:33] <zoidberg> any help please?
[06:33] <NthDegree> difference between them is that the common one is common to both architectures and that it is there to provide the non-arch specific components
[06:33] <effer> does anyone here have a BLITZZ brand router?
[06:33] <ct8ball> where is my source list directory???
[06:33] <wweasel> !ask
[06:33] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:33] <NthDegree> you need both jame99
[06:33] <nostalg1c> i'm running a software raid5 array of 4x 250GB, but it's somewhat full -- can i add more disks to it ?
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> Youtube sound and videos are working for me.
[06:34] <Ricesteam> neildarlow: how do I manually mount a dvd?
[06:34] <Coffeegrinds> DR_willis I take it you've changed nothing on your system?
[06:34] <eyequeue> ct8ball, are you looking for /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> Now if YouTube.com just had something worth watching.
[06:34] <ct8ball> thank-you
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> Coffeegrinds,  not that i am aware of.
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> Coffeegrinds,  just the normal apt-get updates
[06:34] <zoidberg> can anyone help me out....PCMCIA services fail to start at boot?
[06:34] <NthDegree> Ricesteam, mount -t /dev/mydevice /where/i/want/it/mounted
[06:35] <wweasel> I am having strange GRUB problems.  A few days ago it started taking 45 seconds to load when I boot my computer, but worked normally on reboots.  Booting Linux also took a few minutes on first boot, then reg. 40 secs on reboots. I got an Error 16 once. I tried again and it worked fine.  Now I am getting an Error 18 and can't boot. Help please?
[06:35] <Coffeegrinds> DR_willis : same here but mine broke.
[06:35] <NthDegree> Ricesteam, mount -t iso9660 /dev/mydevice /where/i/want/it/mounted   <----- Correction
[06:35] <neildarlow> Ricesteam: sudo mount -t udf -o noatime /dev/yourdevice /media/cdrom
[06:35] <NthDegree> neildarlow, not all DVDs are udf
[06:35] <foo> Is "universe" reposity like plf or something? Like nonfree?
[06:35] <jame99> I'm trying to install xchat_2.6.4-0ubuntu1_i386.deb and I'm getting this error: dependency is not satisfiable: xchat-common ... why ?
[06:35] <Xoria> Hi everyone
[06:35] <slacker> jame99: with apt-get or aptitude?
[06:35] <NthDegree> foo, universe is free but contributed by people who aren't official developers
[06:36] <Coffeegrinds> thinking i might try a portableapp / Firefox  with wine..  see if that works if it doesn the...
[06:36] <eigenlambda> wweasel: your konpyuta sounds broken
[06:36] <neildarlow> Ricesteam: assuming you used udf. if you used iso9660 substitute that instead
[06:36] <NthDegree> foo, multiverse is non-free and contributed by people who aren't official developers
[06:36] <Ricesteam> nope...mount: No medium found
[06:36] <Ricesteam> tried both
[06:36] <zoidberg> can anyone help me with PCMCIA services failing to start?
[06:36] <zoidberg> ?
[06:36] <Ricesteam> did Nautilus kill my auotmouts of DVD?
[06:36] <eyequeue> jame99, 2.6.1 is in dapper, try #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[06:36] <neildarlow> Ricesteam: have you tried more than one dvd?
[06:36] <jame99> slacker I just downloaded it from the website and double clicked it
[06:36] <Ricesteam> neildarlow: yes....
[06:36] <NthDegree> Ricesteam, check your fstab
[06:36] <wweasel> eigenlambda: Thanks, I figured that one out myself.
[06:37] <ct8ball> I don't have permission to save the sourses.list file?
[06:37] <Xoria> I was wondering if anyone could help me, I'm tempted to try Ubuntu BUT I've never tried Linux before. I have a modem that only has drivers of Windows. Is there a way to install it to Ubuntu?
[06:37] <foo> NthDegree: gotcha, thanks
[06:37] <eigenlambda> wweasel: glad to be of service ^_^
[06:37] <eyequeue> ct8ball, sudo
[06:37] <Ricesteam> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,noatime     0       0
[06:37] <NthDegree> Xoria, what modem is it?
[06:37] <airg> is there any command line program that will allow me to join two images ?
[06:37] <kek> what do i do to be able to log into SWAT as root? can't remember how i did it last time
[06:37] <wweasel> eigenlambda: But it makes no sense to me how intermittent the problem is. If it did it all the time it would be different.
[06:37] <Xoria> An ADSL Conexant modem.
[06:37] <ct8ball> I'm using gedit
[06:37] <Hyperpenguin> Strange... Ubuntu isn't wanting to let me log in after I installed it. I tried the username/password I made with the installer, as well as the nodename and some other stuff.
[06:37] <eyequeue> ct8ball, sudo $your_editor /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:37] <kek> i've removed invalid_user = root from smb.conf and set a root password with smbpasswd
[06:38] <ct8ball> ty
[06:38] <NthDegree> Xoria, a USB modem?
[06:38] <Xoria> Yes
[06:38] <neildarlow> Ricesteam: does /dev/scd0 exist?
[06:38] <shinobi2> how do i play .wmv files?
[06:38] <Ricesteam> yes its in the /dev folder
[06:38] <NthDegree> Xoria:  It may be possible but a major pain in the ass to get it working
[06:38] <foo> How can I see link status? I forgot the command. hm
[06:38] <foo> for eth0
[06:38] <eyequeue> !restricted_formats
[06:38] <foo> (not ifconfig)
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restricted_formats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <eyequeue> !restricted
[06:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:39] <olliek> internet crashes with segmentation fault - any1 help?
[06:39] <Xoria> As long as it works I'm prepared to try anything.
[06:39] <slacker> jame99: try installing it via aptitude: sudo aptitude install xchat
[06:39] <Hyperpenguin> Hmm. Is there any *clean* way to uninstall Ubuntu and try reinstalling it if you can't log in to it?
[06:39] <eyequeue> the internet crashed? cool!
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> olliek,  so its YOU thats crashing the internet!
[06:40] <neildarlow> olliek: the whole internet, or just your bit? :)
[06:40] <Ackeubu_> whats the default viewer for .txt files?
[06:40] <slacker> Ackeubu_: depends :)
[06:40] <wweasel> Ackeubu_: Gedit
[06:40] <baldy1324> exit
[06:40] <Hyperpenguin> gedit
[06:40] <NthDegree> Xoria:  What you'll probably want for an easy time is an ADSL router that plugs into your ethernet slot (preferably netgear or linksys) and that will get autodetected - not the free rubbish ISPs hand out
[06:40] <olliek> well i don't think i affect every one -but not sure!
[06:40] <kek> Hyperpenguin: just install and tell it to format the drive? or how do you mean uninstall?
[06:40] <eyequeue> Ackeubu_, i would use less
[06:40] <Backeman> What is the program that you should use today to run windows-programs, wine?
[06:40] <veriquex> yes
[06:40] <wweasel> Backeman: yes
[06:40] <slacker> Backeman: correct
[06:40] <jame99> slacker thx a lot!
[06:41] <slacker> jame99: yw
[06:41] <magus_x> wine and cedega for games
[06:41] <Backeman> slacker: thx
[06:41] <Hyperpenguin> kek: What happened was I just installed it and I can't seem to log in - must have gotten something wrong
[06:41] <Ricesteam> Looks like I have to reinstall Ubuntu just to fix my dvd problem :(
[06:41] <slacker> yw
[06:41] <Xoria> Ah ok. I'll try that then. I was planning to go wireless soon anyway. Might aswell do it now.
[06:41] <magus_x> Ricesteam, : what is your problem?
[06:41] <slacker> Ricesteam: that's really drastic
[06:41] <pequatre> hello. I can't sudo anymore. Could anyone copy/paste his /etc/sudoers so that i see what it should look like ? thx.
[06:41] <kek> Hyperpenguin: if you don't have any important files you can just install it over again i think.
[06:41] <g-henna> hi folks
[06:41] <NthDegree> Xoria:  wireless can also be a pain in the ass
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> or learn how linux works.. and learn to fix it. :P
[06:42] <neildarlow> Ricesteam: try powering-off before. your hardware might be confused.
[06:42] <Hyperpenguin> kek, Okay, I'll try that. Thanks.
[06:42] <ct8ball> dual monitor setup.... have a radeon 9600 using gnome
[06:42] <slacker> pequatre: what did you do?
[06:42] <Ricesteam> I used Nautilus lastnite to copy over some files from DVD...now when I insert dvds to my drive, it doesnt automount, nor does it recognize it
[06:42] <magus_x> Ricesteam, : what is your problem???
[06:42] <_axiom> Do make scripts usually work on ubuntu, or am I encountering weird sudo != root problems?  I keep getting 'permisson denied' for creating certian files/folders, even though I started the script with sudo.
[06:42] <pequatre> slacker, dunno :/ i've runned "faster-dapper" and some other scripts, added grubfx, etc...
[06:42] <magus_x> Ricesteam, : strange, fstab problem?
[06:42] <NthDegree> Xoria:  best bet is a wired router that plugs into your ethernet slot, those will install easily and with no hassle (you don't have to do literally anything to get an internet going)
[06:42] <slacker> _axiom: check your permissions they must be executable as well :)
[06:42] <magus_x> ah, and can be a hardware problem too, do you still have windows to test it?
[06:43] <Ricesteam> magus_x: its listed in my fstab though
[06:43] <slacker> pequatre: ahhh
[06:43] <Hyperpenguin> I know. I'll tell the Ubuntu installer to reformat the Ubuntu partition.
[06:43] <slacker> check wheter you are in the admin group
[06:43] <g-henna> yesterday i added 512 mb ram to my already existing 512 mb on my acer travelmate notebook running kubuntu dapper and, while everything runs fine in windows (dual-channel mode even works), kubuntu doesn't boot any more
[06:43] <Ricesteam> magus_x: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,noatime     0       0
[06:43] <Ackeubu_> nautilus uses prefered applications when a file is clicked. when i use rox i have to specify an action. Is that how it should be or can i set rox to use the same pref apps as nautilus?
[06:43] <magus_x> hm...
[06:43] <g-henna> it stops with "loading essential drivers" and simply does nothing
[06:43] <olliek> My internet connection crashes! every couple of minutes. no plugins on firefox used
[06:43] <pequatre> slacker, why ? is any of these prone to messing an ubuntu system ?
[06:43] <NthDegree> g-henna, try reinstalling ubuntu
[06:43] <Ricesteam> ok let my try powering off
[06:43] <sudomania4> I got an error trying to back up home to a dvd+rw, "Please replace the disc in the drive with a supported disc with at least 4531 MiB free.  The following disc types are supported:
[06:43] <sudomania4> CD-R, CD-RW, DVD+R"
[06:43] <_axiom> slacker: would that be the permissons on the make file?
[06:43] <magus_x> my dvd reader
[06:44] <magus_x> /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> olliek,  try a differnt web browser yet?
[06:44] <ct8ball> dual monitor setup.... have a radeon 9600 using gnome
[06:44] <sudomania4> can someone please tell me a fix?
[06:44] <magus_x> Ricesteam, : "/dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0"
[06:44] <slacker> pequatre: because the default install sets you in the admin group, and in sudo this groups is used
[06:44] <magus_x> thats my dvd line, its a DVD-R drive
[06:44] <Xoria> Ok thats out the window then.
[06:44] <g-henna> NthDegree: you think there is no other way?
[06:44] <NthDegree> sudomania4, K3B should work don't use the nautilus rubbish
[06:44] <neildarlow> sudomania4: were you using a CD-R or CD-RW. they're only 700MB at most
[06:44] <magus_x> Ricesteam, : try replacing your line with mine
[06:44] <slacker> _axiom: no.. ahh, perhaps its you umask
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> sudomania4,  are you trying to back up more then the drive can hanle?
[06:44] <Ricesteam> magus_x: i don't have /dev/hdb though
[06:44] <magus_x> Ricesteam, : do it :)
[06:45] <Coffeegrinds> ok/ for all of us flahs lovers I'm gonna try this out, I just downloaded portable Firefox, (win32) and FLash 9 isnatlled it and tested on windows .. lets just see the results with wine
[06:45] <olliek> Dr_Willis: yes. they all crash.  If I log in in recovery mode I don't have a problem
[06:45] <NthDegree> g-henna, well i'm not sure but a reinstall would be easiest
[06:45] <slacker> _axiom: could you check the file permissions on the files/scripts that you created?
[06:45] <magus_x> Ricesteam, : hdb is only if you have another hdd in IDE2
[06:45] <borfast> I'm trying to get an HP Photosmart 3180 scanner (multifunction printer/scanner, actually) working. The printer is working but I can't get the scanner to work. I already did a sane-find-scanner and it finds my scanner but then a scanimage -L says it can't find any scanner. can anyone help me or point me to some documentation, please?
[06:45] <sudomania4> neildarlow, I am using (or trying to use) a dvd+rw
[06:45] <magus_x> so, try replacing the line and reboot
[06:45] <hyperspace> speaking of umask... what file is appropriate to change a users umask for accessing/writing to smb shares?
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> olliek,  define 'crash'  the browser crashes? the X server? the whole system?
[06:45] <sudomania4> Dr_Willis, I don't think so
[06:45] <sudomania4> NthDegree, i'll try that, thanks
[06:45] <Ricesteam> magus_x: ok, trying.
[06:45] <magus_x> Ricesteam, : :)
[06:45] <neildarlow> sudomania4: has it been dvd+rw-format 'ted?
[06:46] <pequatre> slacker, now i recall i've added something with "adduser" or somethg as part of some script i ran. maybe that screw my system. Anyway, is there an easier way to restore it rather than visudo ?
[06:46] <Dr_Willis>  at least 4531 MiB free.  --> isent that 4.53 GB? thats a little large for a dvd?
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> sudomania4:  Readint that you are trying to use a dvd-rw whan it says your dvie does not support it
[06:46] <sudomania4> neildarlow, how do I know?
[06:46] <g-henna> NthDegree: any idea what could cause this?
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> or am i confused. :P
[06:46] <neildarlow> sudomania4: did you do it?
[06:46] <sudomania4> do what?
[06:46] <sudomania4> no
[06:46] <jav_> Is there a way to force a readyinstalled ubuntu to re-detect hardware?
[06:46] <NthDegree> g-henna, the fact the memory isn't being detected properly
[06:46] <pequatre> (next time i'll back it up)
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> sudomania4: dvd-r and rw have different capacities
[06:46] <sudomania4> yeah?
[06:46] <slacker> pequatre: I think you need to restore your sudoers file and have a look at the group your user is in
[06:46] <olliek> Dr_Willis: browser disappears. If I do it from a terminal I get "Segmentation fault" and nothing else.
[06:46] <neildarlow> sudomania4: then if your burning app didn't do it for you, it needs to be done for a new DVD-RW
[06:46] <sudomania4> Jack_Sparrow, the dvd says 4.7 gb on it
[06:47] <slacker> pequatre: i think this is the source of your problem
[06:47] <stonarmusic> is there a faq about how to add a second hdd to fstab?
[06:47] <g-henna> how is that key combination for stopping + continuing console output during boot?
[06:47] <sudomania4> Jack_Sparrow, and i'm only trying to burn ~4.5 gb
[06:47] <pequatre> slacker, yes i agree :)
[06:47] <NthDegree> sudomania4, use K3B
[06:47] <hyperspace> I have umasked all dirs in the share to the equiv. of 770, but when i write files to a dir it does not use the group i want it to use for those files. So I have to go back and chmod/chgrp the dir/contents thereof so other users can read..
[06:47] <sudomania4> NthDegree, i'll try that
[06:47] <sudomania4> NthDegree, thanks
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> olliek,  sounds almost like a memory issue if all the browsers are doing it..  they doing it on every site?
[06:47] <eyequeue> stonarmusic, man 5 fstab
[06:47] <neildarlow> sudomania4: that's an overestimate, you only get about 4.5GB of data on a dvd-RW
[06:47] <Coffeegrinds> and still no sound in FF with latest flash under wine. though works great on my win box..
[06:47] <Jack_Sparrow> sudomania4: have you tried it with an -r
[06:47] <stonarmusic> eyequeue - ok
[06:47] <Coffeegrinds> and with that I'm outta here
[06:47] <sudomania4> Jack_Sparrow, it works with -r
[06:48] <pequatre> i just wanted to know if 1) anyone could c/p his so i can restore mine 2) there's a faster way of restoring it (an obscure command)
[06:48] <slacker> pequatre: this line should be in /etc/sudoers: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:48] <sudomania4> so is there a good data burning app for gnome?
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> sudomania4: K3B is good tool..
[06:48] <sudomania4> k3b is for kde, right?
[06:48] <_axiom> slacker: I changed them all to 777, but I get the same problem
[06:48] <hyperspace> sudomania4 : i use gnomebaker
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> sudomania4: I run it under knome
[06:48] <NthDegree> sudomania4: but it works on gnome just fine
[06:48] <neildarlow> Jack_Sparrow: K3B is a KDE app
[06:48] <mcallister> Helppp!! I am using breezy and need to get it to where I can sign onto pppoe with no problems, what do I need to download?
[06:48] <slacker> _axiom: mkay..
[06:48] <hyperspace> k3b is nice too
[06:48] <sudomania4> ok
[06:48] <sudomania4> thank you
[06:48] <slacker> _axiom: can't help now, dinner is waiting
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> sudomania4: I run K3B under Gnome
[06:48] <slacker> pequatre: and grep for your user in /etc/group
[06:49] <sudomania4> so what I need to try is a better burning app?
[06:49] <sudomania4> thanks
[06:49] <slacker> pequatre: and check if you are in the group admin
[06:49] <olliek> Dr_Willis: It does it every couple of minutes or so. Windows and Freespire not affected. If I log in in recovery mode its ok
[06:49] <pequatre> slacker, ok. the pb is i must reboot to gain root access :( .btw what's the command to add oneself in admin ? groupadd or addgroup ?
[06:49] <neildarlow> Jack_Sparrow: you can but you might not want to install kdelibs etc. into your GNOME environment
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> sudomania4: Will it write ANY dvd-rw?
[06:49] <sudomania4> not sure
[06:49] <omnid> So here
[06:49] <Backeman> "Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded. Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly." What does this mean, doesn't the X-server run cause Im using gnome? What is and where do I set $DISPLAY?
[06:49] <omnid> 's the deal
[06:49] <slacker> pequatre: just open /etc/group with your favorite editor and add yourself to that line
[06:49] <sudomania4> Jack_Sparrow, I only tried 1
[06:49] <sudomania4> Jack_Sparrow, and then panicked
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> neildarlow: Yes there is an overhead price
[06:50] <TokenBad> anyone know what happened to the little screen capture tool that was in the last version of ubuntu that could put in panel...seems to be missing now
[06:50] <pequatre> slacker, k
[06:50] <omnid> I need VMWare to run Windows whatever that has VBScript due to my school using it aparently for the basic classes
[06:50] <efuzzyone> hi, is there any way I can put a throttle on update manager?
[06:50] <omnid> Is VMWare free for use?
[06:50] <slacker|food> yes
[06:50] <Backeman> omnid: You using VMWare and can run VBScript?
[06:50] <omnid> Nay, I want to though
[06:50] <omnid> So that I CAN use VBScript
[06:50] <omnid> It's Windows only correct?
[06:51] <Backeman> omnid: as far as I know
[06:51] <hyperspace> Shouldn't setting the umask of the root of my smb shared dir fix the permissions for files i create? When I write to the dir permissions are still being set as my default user:user rather than user:othergroup that I am assigned to.
[06:51] <pequatre> CU bye
[06:51] <DamianFinol> Can someone recommend a good P2P app?
[06:51] <hyperspace> Do I need to set the suid bit on the root dir?
[06:51] <_axiom> anybody who knows how to compile things: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20460
[06:51] <_axiom> DamianFinol: aMule
[06:51] <sudomania4> thanks and i'll try that
[06:52] <sudomania4> I tried other dvd+rws now
[06:52] <sudomania4> none seem to work
[06:52] <neildarlow> hyperspace: if you don't want to create files with your primary group, set the directory sgid to the group you want files tot be owned by
[06:52] <hyperspace> Or are my default umask settings for this user overriding what I have umasked the dir as?
[06:52] <Pirate-King> hello
[06:52] <sudomania4> if gnomebaker and k3b don't work, then i'll try to burn less
[06:52] <sudomania4> data
[06:52] <rukuartic> _axiom: you need to do "sudo make install"
[06:52] <hyperspace> neildarlow : sweet thanks!
[06:52] <Megaqwerty> hello
[06:52] <Jack_Sparrow> sudomania4: Like I said, the first post you gave the error.. it does not say you can write to dvd-rw
[06:52] <foo> How can I spit out the link status on eth0/1/2 with ethtool?
[06:53] <rukuartic> _axiom: also, use checkinstall instead of make install because it lets you uninstall it with dpkg
[06:53] <hyperspace> neildarlow : I set that when I umask the dir? Or do I set it on my specific umask per user?
[06:53] <Ricesteam> Alright, I fixed the problem by powering-off my system! Thankyou neildarlow, magux_x, slacker
[06:53] <TokenBad> anyone know what happened to the little screen capture tool that was in the last version of ubuntu that could put in panel...seems to be missing now
[06:53] <Ricesteam> neildarlow: so is this a Nautilus bug, or something bigger?
[06:53] <neildarlow> hyperspace: what do you want to achieve? owndership or permissions?
[06:53] <Backeman> "Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded. Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly." What does this mean, doesn't the X-server run cause Im using gnome? What is and where do I set $DISPLAY?
[06:54] <Pirate-King> how do you get micro media flash player to work?
[06:54] <Coffeegrinds> and as a heads up EVERY FLASH VIDEO SITE is switching to 9
[06:54] <Coffeegrinds> so looks lik ewe may be screwqed if we dont come up with a workaround here
[06:54] <hyperspace> neildarlow : good question, It is a smb share, I want all users belonging to the "work" group to be able to rwx, which is why I chmod/chgrp/umask the equiv of 770
[06:55] <rukuartic> I'm having problems with Software Sound mixing, even though I think I have everything configured properly, sometimes I run a sound program and it says that /dev/dsp is busy
[06:55] <TokenBad> ok here is what I want to do...is get a screen capture of my background or whatever...I know there was a program that could put in panel to do it with just a click...this was in the last version of ubuntu...but now I can't find it
[06:55] <neildarlow> Coffeegrinds: yeah, and Macromedia (Adobe) haven't given us a level 9 plugin. nice
[06:55] <rukuartic> Does anyone know how this can be fixed? Thanks. (Sorry, up one)
[06:55] <Coffeegrinds> TEH GHEY has gotten adobe!
[06:55] <Ricesteam> Is there a percentage/completion bar option for the command "cp" ?
[06:56] <hyperspace> neildarlow : I set sgid on it w/ a 4 bit permission rather than 3? x007?
[06:56] <eyequeue> neildarlow, Coffeegrinds, write to them if you want support
[06:56] <neildarlow> hyperspace: chmod g+s directory
[06:56] <Fenster> hey guys.. can someone link me to that htfs driver please
[06:56] <Coffeegrinds> eyequeue already on it!
[06:56] <olliek> Dr_Willis: If I log in recovery mode how can I work out what is affecting my connection?
[06:56] <Fenster> *ntfs
[06:57] <ag0ny> !compile
[06:57] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:57] <jav_> Ricesteam: man cp, there is a switch for it, can't remmember what is was though "progress bar"
[06:57] <gekko`> Ricesteam: not really, but you could use -v option. it explains what it's doing
[06:57] <Sakireth> I have an idea for Ubuntu. why not make an Ubuntu for the Nintendo Wii? with a mouse like that it would rule.
[06:57] <Sakireth> I'm banned at #ubuntu-offtopic >_<
[06:57] <rukuartic> Sakireth: well don't get knocked off of here o-o
[06:57] <hyperspace> neildarlow : chmod g+s dir/ .. where do I set what the default group is though? Or does it pull from the current group assigned?
[06:57] <Sakireth> rukuartic: i won't.
[06:58] <Sakireth> opers: can you unban me on #ubuntu-offtopic so i can discuss this?
[06:58] <neildarlow> hyperspace: files will be group-owned by the group of that directory
[06:58] <Ricesteam> I don't feel safe using Nautilus copy anymore :(
[06:58] <clearzen> Could someone please help me. I've been having problems with my pcmcia slot and I have determained that it is sharing a IRQ with my ethernet controller. I cannot change assignment of the IRQ in the bios. How could I change it in the config files?
[06:58] <hyperspace> neildarlow : recursively?
[06:59] <neildarlow> hyperspace: try mkdir -p directory/foo/bar and see :)
[06:59] <edju> Just installed ubuntu, and am trying to get "Add/Remove" onto the menu.  It's checked in the menu editor, but still doesn't show up in the menu.  Any hints?
[06:59] <hyperspace> neildarlow : so I can set the g+s on the root of the share and it will affect all underlying files/dirs?
[06:59] <hyperspace> neildarlow : ok thanks ;)
[07:00] <neildarlow> hyperspace: it's easiest to do all this stuff via Samba. it has controls for this sort of thing
[07:00] <teicah> how do i enable 'fetchmail --daemon' when my dialup is up and 'fetchmail --quit' when it is down?  I tried putting those lines in /etc/ppp/ip-up.local and ip-down.local respectevily..it's a no-go.  It used to cut it with fc5
[07:00] <hyperspace> neildarlow : ok thanks ill check out the samba docs I suppose.
[07:00] <ct8ball> if I installed wine.... where would it show up???
[07:00] <_axiom> rukuartic: it worked!  thanks
[07:00] <phace> i need to install vmware workstation on 64bit kernel... how can i do that ?
[07:01] <scrappy_> ct8ball: /home/username/.wine/drive_c
[07:01] <olliek> browser/frostwire crashes with "segmentation fault".  works ok in XP/Freespire. works ok in ubuntu recovery mode. any ideas?
[07:01] <neildarlow> is fetchmail socially acceptable? i thought getmail was preferred?
[07:01] <ct8ball> scrappy_: how would I add that to one of my menu's
[07:01] <Fenster> hey guys.. can someone link me to that ntfs driver please
[07:02] <pequatre> slacker|food, in case you're still slacking ariund, sudo is back :)
[07:02] <pequatre> around
[07:02] <neildarlow> Fenster: check recent posts on Ubuntu Planet
[07:02] <Ricesteam> is there an alternative to "cp" ?
[07:02] <scrappy_> ct8ball: im not too familiar with gnome to add a link on desktop you would ln -s ~/.wine/drive_c / ~/Desktop/wine
[07:02] <loko555> i have the problem that if i use my bluetooth mouse, the window-focus hangs and i only can use the window that is activated, i cannot select another window anymore nor i can click links in firefox and so on, only scolling is working in the window that is in focus. somebody know this problem?
[07:03] <scrappy_> ct8ball: er the / should be on drive_c/ not a space over
[07:03] <pequatre> which 3-number code is sudoers supposed to be set at ? (e.g. 777 ?)
[07:03] <ravalox> hey, anyone here ever install ivtv on a 64-bit dapper drake ubuntu box?
[07:03] <hyperspace> neildarlow : sweet found the file/dir creation mask settings thanks for thee hint ;)
[07:03] <edju> Let's try another way - what's the easiest way to add/remove programs in ubuntu?
[07:03] <Fenster> the link was pasted in here
[07:03] <Fenster> it is that lunarpark6 or something
[07:03] <eyequeue> pequatre, 440
[07:04] <pequatre> eyequeue, thx
[07:04] <eyequeue> pequatre, r--r-----
[07:04] <verbose> edju: that's a matter of opinion...i find it easiest to use apt-get in a terminal
[07:04] <neildarlow> hyperspace: i set-up a Samba PDC recently so it's still fresh in my mind :)
[07:04] <pequatre> eyequeue, yeah that's 440 right ? :)
[07:04] <eyequeue> edju, one more vote fot apt-get
[07:04] <eyequeue> pequatre, yes
[07:05] <edju> verbose, Thanks - I'll read the man page, then, since I'm new to all this.
[07:05] <eyequeue> edju, dpkg --purge foo to remove
[07:05] <verbose> edju: cool, if you have any questions after reading it, feel free to ask
[07:05] <hyperspace> neildarlow : cool, i see that i have create set to 664 default and dir to 775, do you happen to know what the word is for setting sgid?
[07:05] <johnsandman> can I install ubuntu by using VPC and how must I manage that ? please asnwer me
[07:05] <eyequeue> edju, system > admin > synaptic if you like guis
[07:06] <scrappy_> johnsandman: you mean install under virtualpc in windows?
[07:06] <clearzen> Can you set IRQ's in linux?
[07:06] <edju> eyequeue, It's a new install, and I don't have menu items that the help references.
[07:06] <johnsandman> scrappy yep
[07:06] <pequatre> another question for the ubuntu folks: if i launch K3B during my session it won't start (no gui) but if i reboot then it will be amongst the 1st apps that show up with gnome...any idea ?
[07:06] <eyequeue> edju, system > admin > synaptic should even be present in a new install
[07:07] <scrappy_> johnsandman: the only problem i had was i had to add the line idle=poll at bootup i think because of some hyperthread problem
[07:07] <edju> eyequeue, Nope.
[07:07] <eyequeue> edju, weird
[07:08] <johnsandman> ok it is not for me so i must boot the pc after add the line and then install ubuntu ?
[07:08] <pequatre> maybe edju's not in the admin group, if no, those entries won't show
[07:08] <mausiwolf> seit ihr noch da die mir beim VMWARE geholfen habt
[07:09] <scrappy_> johnsandman: yea i thing you highlight the install to hard drive and hit f6 and add that line at the end youll have to do it whenever you boot so it should be added to /boot/grub/menu.lst as well
[07:09] <pequatre> mausiwolf, english please or #ubuntu-de
[07:09] <mausiwolf> ok
[07:09] <mausiwolf> wrong room :D
[07:09] <edju> pequatre, admin froup - will check.
[07:10] <edju> *froup* *group*
[07:10] <Paladine_> !restricted
[07:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
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[07:11] <emx> hi
[07:11] <clearzen> Can I set IRQ's for my pcmcia slot in ubuntu?
[07:11] <emx> exit
[07:11] <scrappy_> johnsandman: it will be a problem after install because shell see a grub screen and have to hit e to edit and add the line again
[07:12] <SAN> Can anyone help me installing Ubuntu? I'm a real linux newbe, I cant find out what to do, at the part where i have to deal with some partitions...
[07:12] <bruenig> SAN, are you trying to dual boot?
[07:12] <SAN> yes
[07:12] <omnid> Is VBScript in Windows 2003?
[07:12] <bruenig> SAN, are you in the live cd now?
[07:12] <SAN> Yes
[07:12] <bruenig> SAN, ok go to manually edit the partition table
[07:13] <omnid> Allright guess I will use that in VMWare
[07:13] <johnsandman> ok I copy it to her :P
[07:13] <ct8ball> still cannot find wine???
[07:13] <bruenig> SAN, once there tell me how many partitions you have
[07:13] <zmp> does anyone know if its possible to run ".NET framework" in ubuntu?
[07:13] <SAN> okay I have 2 partitions, one is used forwindows
[07:13] <bruenig> how big is the non windows one
[07:14] <teicah> how do i enable 'fetchmail --daemon' when my dialup is up and 'fetchmail --quit' when it is down?  I tried putting those lines in /etc/ppp/ip-up.local and ip-down.local respectevily..it's a no-go.  It used to cut it with fc5
[07:14] <clearzen> @zmp there is a C# engine called mono.......it's a emu that was supposed to let you run some of the .net stuff
[07:14] <eyequeue> teicah, sudo dpkg-reconfigure fetchmail?
[07:14] <OsirisX11> hello can someone please help me with xgl/compiz? when i start up my window borders are gone and i have to do metacity --replace to get them back
[07:15] <eyequeue> OsirisX11, /join #ubuntu-xgl
[07:15] <bruenig> SAN, did you get that last statement/.
[07:15] <bruenig> ?
[07:15] <OsirisX11> clearzen: its not an emu btw, its a fill open source .net interpreter brought to you by the same person who brought you gnome and evolution: miguel de icaza
[07:15] <OsirisX11> thank you eyequeue
[07:15] <clearzen> sorry, my bad
[07:15] <eyequeue> OsirisX11, np
[07:16] <fortr> i want to make a livecd with the newest version of ubuntu for i386... i'm not sure which image to get
[07:16] <SAN> yes I have 2 partitions
[07:16] <bruenig> fortr, the desktop cd
[07:16] <fortr> there's 6.06 and 6.06-1
[07:16] <bruenig> SAN, how big is the non windows partition
[07:16] <SAN> 25 gb
[07:16] <eyequeue> fortr, 6.06.1
[07:16] <polpak> fortr get 6.06.1
[07:16] <eyequeue> fortr, has fixes etc
[07:17] <bruenig> SAN, ok that's plenty, right click on it and delete it
[07:17] <fortr> all right, thanks a lot guys
[07:17] <SAN> done
[07:17] <bruenig> SAN, right click on it and hit new or create or whatever it is
[07:17] <SAN> done
[07:18] <Hyperpenguin> YAY!
[07:18] <Hyperpenguin> Ubuntu successfully installed! :D
[07:18] <buttercup|> is there anything wrong with "ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz" in the repositories?
[07:18] <bruenig> format this partition as linux-swap and make it twice the size of your RAM,
[07:18] <polpak> Hyperpenguin: congratulations
[07:18] <bruenig> primary too
[07:18] <Hyperpenguin> See ya!
[07:18] <bruenig> there will be room left over obviously
[07:19] <SAN> how big a partition do I make then, and what file system?
[07:19] <bruenig> how much RAM do you have
[07:19] <bruenig> oh with the remaining?
[07:19] <bruenig> with the remaining stuff, make it ext3, primary and the remainder of the space
[07:19] <seatouch> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20462 ==> how to fix this
[07:20] <SAN> i have 1024 MB ram so 2048 mb partition
[07:21] <bruenig> SAN, they always say twice the size of the RAM, you could probably make it less. It is more of a preference thing. If you want to space, you could go as low as 512 and be reasonable
[07:21] <bruenig> the space*
[07:21] <sycho> anyone tell me how I can get the the cd burner in nautulis to auto convert mp3 to wav files before burning an audio cd?
[07:22] <seatouch> well ?
[07:22] <scrappy_> sycho: id install k3b not sure if naut is quite that smart
[07:22] <bruenig> SAN, did you get the swap partition made yet?
[07:22] <SAN> doing it now
[07:23] <foo> If I want to set up a catchmail e-mail address that forwards the mail.. I can set up an alias by doing * : forward.here@somewhereelse.com .. in sendmail. hm
[07:23] <SAN> done
[07:23] <buttercup|> is there anything wrong with "ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz" in the repositories?
[07:23] <bruenig> SAN, ok and the rest of the space?
[07:23] <SAN> thats in a ext3 partition now
[07:24] <bruenig> SAN, ext3, primary yes
[07:24] <SAN> what do you mean by primary?
[07:24] <bruenig> seatouch, you could try the deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wu-ftpd/wu-ftpd_2.6.2-20_i386.deb
[07:25] <bruenig> SAN, there is an option that asks if you want to make it primary extended or logical, it defaults to primary so it probably doesn't matter
[07:26] <sycho> scrappy: an good cd creation software for gnome?
[07:26] <SAN> ok but whan I look at it now the 2 latest partitions I've made says filesystem unknown :S
[07:26] <bigbill52a>  What is this error..I just got it while installing ubuntu-desktop....** (process:24730): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[07:26] <SAN> *when
[07:26] <bruenig> SAN, ok once you have that made, do it again, the graphical install is sometimes a bit buggy
[07:26] <seatouch> bruenig ok thanks
[07:26] <bigbill52a> it only occurred when i apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:27] <clearzen> what exactly is the differance between apt-get and aptitude?
[07:27] <miles> hey, does anyone know how to get CrossOver installed?
[07:28] <tarzeau> clearzen: they've got different cow powers
[07:28] <tarzeau> clearzen: try moo as parameter
[07:28] <eyequeue> clearzen, aptitude is a gui app
[07:28] <cr4sh3r> !fglrx
[07:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:28] <tarzeau> eyequeue: no it's not
[07:28] <mookid> has anyone managed to get the netgear WPN111 to work with nubuntu?
[07:28] <eyequeue> tarzeau, looks it to me
[07:28] <tarzeau> eyequeue: it's interactive maybe, but not gui
[07:28] <bruenig> SAN, when you have partitioned everything the partition table should look like this 1 - Windows - ntfs or fat32, primary............ 2 - Swap - linux-swap, primary.......... 3 - Ubuntu - ext3, primary
[07:29] <seatouch> bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20463 .. same error still :(
[07:29] <bruenig> seatouch, yeah figured as much, looks like a dependency issue
[07:29] <bigbill52a> it started when gnome menus were installed
[07:29] <eyequeue> clearzen, anyway, apt-get has that nice cli goodness
[07:29] <miles> so yeah, when I goto install crossover i use : sh ./install*.sh
[07:29] <seatouch> bruenig how to fix itthen ?
[07:30] <miles> it tells me it failed, so I sudo sh ./install*.sh and it says that /home/miles is not my home direcotry
[07:30] <nilesh892003> hello i am using ubuntu from last 1 months now i realise that its performance is slower than 1st run how to increase its speed .in windows we delete temporory files what to do in ubuntu
[07:30] <SAN> The installer keeps showing unknown filesystem :-S
[07:30] <bruenig> seatouch, not certain, personally from looking at the error, I might try to remove /usr/share/man/man8/ftpshut.8.gz as that seems to be when it erroring
[07:31] <seatouch> bruenig tried to do that .. but still its having the same problem
[07:31] <bruenig> what is this package for?
[07:31] <miles> how do I make a user like root?
[07:31] <Jell-O-Fishi> nilesh892003 : check the system monitor if something is running in the background hogging cpu.
[07:31] <bruenig> !sudo
[07:31] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:32] <seatouch> bruenig wu-ftpd? well its for running a ftp server
[07:32] <miles> bruenig: I've tried that.
[07:32] <miles> CrossOVer still doesn't work
[07:32] <mookid> has anyone managed to get the netgear WPN111 to work with nubuntu?
[07:32] <seatouch> bruenig i tried install proftpd but no idea why it doesnt work .. no errors cant connect
[07:32] <miles> mookid: I tried, it didn't work.
[07:32] <TokenBad> ok here is what I want to do...is get a screen capture of my background or whatever...I know there was a program that could put in panel to do it with just a click...this was in the last version of ubuntu...but now I can't find it
[07:32] <mookid> shit :/
[07:32] <bruenig> seatouch, hmmm, I was hopping it was just an ftp client so I could look like a genius and refer you to gftp but alas no go
[07:32] <mookid> BT Voyager 1010 ?
[07:32] <bigbill52a>  What is this error..I just got it while installing ubuntu-desktop....** (process:24730): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[07:32] <clearzen> What exactly are the GPG keys for?
[07:32] <bigbill52a> does anyone know?
[07:32] <miles> clearzen: they are like a fingerprint.
[07:33] <seatouch> bruenig :P
[07:33] <miles> clearzen: each program/file/person should have a unique one.
[07:33] <Fenster> hey guys.. I just did the new ntfs driver
[07:33] <bruenig> miles, what do you need a user to be like root for?
[07:33] <Fenster> and this is there error I get when accessing that drive
[07:33] <Fenster> the device /dev/hdb1, is mounted.
[07:33] <Fenster> use the force option to work a mounted filesystem.
[07:33] <Fenster> mount failed.
[07:33] <Netcad> Now that I have both ath0 and wifi0 in my ifconfig output, everything should just 'work' when I'm in the reach of a Wifi router ?
[07:33] <miles> bruenig: CrossOver won't install as sudo
[07:33] <cr4sh3r> is there a way to remove xserver-xorg-driver-ati without removing xserver-xorg-driver-all?
[07:33] <clearzen> When running sudo apt-get update I get GPG errors....how can I reload a key?
[07:33] <bruenig> miles, that CrossOver is not pirated is it?
[07:33] <miles> bruenig: it says "/home/miles direcotry does not belong to you.
[07:34] <Fenster> any idea what the force option is?
[07:34] <miles> bruenig: nope.
[07:34] <jackinthebox> anybody know of a good N64 Emulator?
[07:34] <miles> bruenig: Demo, straight from their site.
[07:34] <nilesh892003> hello friends i installed frostwire and limewire in ubuntu dapper drake but both are not starting after clicking on its icon what to do no wi am new in linux
[07:34] <RootMyBox> Hi
[07:34] <bruenig> miles, i got the same error when I tried to install the pirated version, I just gave up
[07:34] <bruenig> what do you mean crossover for
[07:34] <miles> heh
[07:34] <miles> damn it!
[07:34] <bruenig> need*
[07:34] <scrappy_> nilesh892003: you need java
[07:34] <miles> Dreamweaver
[07:34] <pequatre> nilesh892003, do you have sun-java ?
[07:34] <TokenBad> I guess there is none
[07:34] <RootMyBox> Anyone know a way of getting my password for root and user in Ubuntu? do i9 have to run a livecd and what not??
[07:35] <bruenig> !info nvu
[07:35] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB
[07:35] <miles> rootmybox: ubuntu has no root.
[07:35] <nilesh892003> oh
[07:35] <cschneid> does anybody know where the user's wine cfg file lives by chance?
[07:35] <miles> rootmybox: well, wait.
[07:35] <RootMyBox> It does..
[07:35] <miles> rootmybox: not EXACTLY true....
[07:35] <nilesh892003> how to cheak whether i have java or not
[07:35] <clearzen> ubuntu does have a root sudo -s -H
[07:35] <nilesh892003> ?
[07:35] <scrappy_> RootMyBox: you can boot in recovery and change the password with the command 'passwd username'
[07:35] <mookid> miles, did you use nsdiswrapper?
[07:35] <shedi> RootMyBox, sudo passwd root
[07:35] <bruenig> miles, or if you want you could do chown -R root:root /home/username, install it and then chown it back to you afterwords
[07:35] <RootMyBox> scrappy_: Doesnt it ask for any passwords? or what not?
[07:35] <miles> rootmybox: nah, I just bought a new card!
[07:35] <jackinthebox> Anybody know of a good Nintendo 64 Emulator that works on ubuntu?
[07:35] <miles> hmmm
[07:36] <eyequeue> RootMyBox, see this:
[07:36] <miles> I'll try that
[07:36] <mookid> miles, what card?
[07:36] <scrappy_> RootMyBox: drops you in a root shell i thing
[07:36] <scrappy_> think
[07:36] <eyequeue> !rootsudo > RootMyBox
[07:36] <seatouch> !proftpd
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proftpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <SAN> Ok so now i quit the installer and made the partitions vith the program in Ubuntu, and it seems to work
[07:36] <miles> linksys somethin or other.
[07:36] <seatouch> !ftp
[07:36] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[07:36] <eyequeue> RootMyBox, that url has the explanation
[07:36] <mookid> What wireless cards work easily with nubuntu?
[07:36] <nilesh892003> how to install java in ubuntu dapper
[07:36] <nilesh892003> ?
[07:36] <Jamie> hwo can i see what acivities are running?
[07:36] <bruenig> SAN, ok, well once you get past the partition part and it asks you for mount point, say so
[07:36] <scrappy_> RootMyBox: on any linux system you can add the line init=/bin/sh and boot and then do mount -o remount,rw / and then change a password
[07:37] <pequatre> nilesh892003, go in synaptic and look for "sun java"
[07:37] <miles> bruenig: chown didn't work...
[07:37] <miles> haha.
[07:37] <Juz_Visiting> is there a Ubuntu-ppc channel? what's it's #name ?
[07:37] <RootMyBox> shall i use the sudo passwd root command
[07:37] <eyequeue> !ppc
[07:37] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[07:37] <bruenig> miles, it didn't work? as in you got an error?
[07:37] <miles> it was all denied
[07:37] <eyequeue> RootMyBox, see the url the bot gave you, it's not advisable
[07:37] <mookid> What wireless cards work easily with nubuntu?
[07:37] <miles> "Operation not permitted"
[07:37] <godtvisken> How could I make my own keymap that is listed in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layouts ?
[07:37] <scrappy_> RootMyBox: just passwd username
[07:38] <miles> damn it
[07:38] <miles> I got it
[07:38] <pequatre> nilesh892003, use the search function of course
[07:38] <miles> I forgot to sudo it.
[07:38] <bruenig> miles, you could sudo chown
[07:38] <miles> bruenig: yep, that worked.
[07:38] <bruenig> miles, make sure you change it back before you reboot because if you don't it wont allow you to login
[07:38] <miles> haha
[07:38] <miles> yep.
[07:38] <miles> Got that one covered
[07:38] <SAN> ok now I'm at the mont piont page...
[07:39] <bruenig> SAN, the windows just leave it as it is probably says /media/sda1, for swap, make it swap, for the ubuntu partition make sure it is / those are probably defaulted there but just in case
[07:39] <miles> I think I'll ask the guys in #crossover
[07:40] <eyequeue> is #crossover a cabling channel?
[07:40] <RootMyBox> scrappy_:
[07:40] <bruenig> it is for crossover office
[07:40] <miles> eyequeue: nope, it's for the Crossover Office
[07:40] <godtvisken> How could I make my own keymap that is listed in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layouts ?
[07:40] <bruenig> for those who absolutely must have winblows apps
[07:40] <Stormx2> checking build system type... Invalid configuration `i686-pc-linux-oldld': machine `i686-pc-linux' not recognized <---- meh?
[07:40] <eyequeue> never heard of that app, makes sense
[07:41] <mookid> !dapper
[07:41] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[07:41] <bruenig> although I am using wine to run windows apps right now, so I am no better than he
[07:41] <mookid> What wireless cards work easily with nubuntu?
[07:41] <godtvisken> Or, where are keymaps stored that are listed in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layouts ?
[07:41] <sycho> so how can I get k3b to auto convert mp3 to wav? it says right now mp3 is not a supported file format?
[07:41] <TokenBad> ok here is what I want to do...is get a screen capture of my background or whatever...I know there was a program that could put in panel to do it with just a click...this was in the last version of ubuntu...but now I can't find it
[07:41] <bruenig> sycho, you need w32codecs
[07:41] <Stormx2> sycho: Install k3b-mp3
[07:41] <scrappy_> mookid:  im partial to cards with atheros chipset
[07:41] <bruenig> if you don't already
[07:42] <Stormx2> sycho: or something similar I forget the name
[07:42] <mookid> thx scrappy_
[07:42] <mookid> :)
[07:42] <mookid> wait isnt the WPN111 atheros?
[07:42] <bruenig> I can't believe you installed k3b, you have to install like half of kDE to run that, not worth it
[07:42] <Stormx2> Someone help out with this: I had this problem before and I can't remember how it was fixed: checking build system type... Invalid configuration `i686-pc-linux-oldld': machine `i686-pc-linux' not recognized <---- meh?
[07:42] <Miek> TokenBad: Applications -> Accessories -> Take screenshot or "Prnt Scrn" on your keyboard
[07:42] <scrappy_> mookid: dunno
[07:42] <Stormx2> ld is reporting the wrong system type
[07:42] <Stormx2> any help much appreciated
[07:42] <Jamie> is Crossover Office free?
[07:42] <sycho> bruenig: I asked if there was something better for gnome and no one answered... any suggestions?
[07:42] <bruenig> Jamie no
[07:43] <miles> Jamie: nope
[07:43] <Jamie> thats sucks ^- ^
[07:43] <miles> Jamie: but they have a 30 day trial
[07:43] <sycho> what cd creation app would you guys recommend for gnome?
[07:43] <Jamie> Crossover Office is liek wine right?
[07:43] <TokenBad> Miek, there used to be a way to have that in a panel...
[07:43] <bruenig> gnomebaker is ok
[07:43] <TokenBad> do you know if still avail?
[07:44] <bruenig> Jamie, yeah it took wine's source made some improvements and starting selling it
[07:44] <Jamie> bruenig: i c
[07:44] <Miek> TokenBad: you can just drag it from the Applications menu to the panel
[07:44] <SAN> WARNING: This will destroy all data on any partitions you have removed as
[07:44] <SAN>   well as on the partitions that are going to be formatted.
[07:44] <SAN> this will not affect my windows disc right?
[07:44] <Jamie> does Wine work any good?
[07:45] <Fenster> guh.. this ntfs driver doesnt wanna work for me
[07:45] <bigbill52a> What is this error..I just got it while installing ubuntu-desktop....** (process:24730): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[07:45] <bruenig> SAN, the windows box was not checked under format?
[07:45] <sycho> fenster: ihad no problems with the ntfs driver
[07:45] <Miek> Jamie: depends what programs you're running
[07:45] <SAN> no
[07:45] <bruenig> SAN, then it will not be touched
[07:45] <RandomDude15> hey has anyone in here got a media center remote working in kubuntu or ubuntu?
[07:45] <Jamie> Miek: on lkets say dreamweaver mx 2004?
[07:45] <SAN> ok :)
[07:45] <Fenster> hey sycho can I pm you and ask a few questions please?
[07:45] <sycho> yeah no problem
[07:45] <signature16> how easy is it to get wireless internet setup? I'm trying to find a good desktop distro...is ubuntu a good choice? Ive been using gentoo in the past
[07:46] <Miek> ubuntu was easy to setup with wireless on my laptop
[07:46] <scrappy_> signature16: wireless is very good on most distros these days
[07:46] <BFGod> hi everyone, could someone please help me with font aliasing?
[07:46] <SAN> Uhh installing system now :D
[07:46] <bigbill52a> i need help with my eggs
[07:46] <Miek> Jamie: no idea, i never use dreamweaver :p
[07:47] <Jamie> is it hard to install windows xp as a second bootable os when u have linux installed?
[07:47] <Jamie> Miek: Photoshop CS2 then?
[07:47] <miles> jamie: not really, but it's also easy to mess it up!
[07:47] <eyequeue> Jamie, i have heard that ms is "rude" and takes over the whole box, so you have to install it first
[07:47] <Jamie> miles: mess it up how?
[07:47] <miles> the boot record
[07:47] <Miek> you just have to boot a live-cd and re-install grub afterwards
[07:47] <Jamie> eyequeue: I see.
[07:48] <miles> jamie: when you install linux it installs grub, Windows will overwrite that
[07:48] <eyequeue> Jamie, as oin, make a small partition for ms, install it, then install every other os you ant afterward
[07:48] <eyequeue> insomnik, want
[07:48] <wheels3572> Anyone help me with CUPS please
[07:48] <Jamie> eyequeue: okok.. sounds faid.. then i will only try afind my winxp cd and key before i do any more progress here ^- ^
[07:48] <signature16> scrappy_: hmm.. for some reason i couldn't get it working on gentoo.. do you haev a specific pcmia card you would recommend getttng to replace my current one?
[07:48] <Jamie> *fair
[07:49] <eyequeue> Jamie, it's annoying, but it's the way that works, heh
[07:49] <eyequeue> Jamie, i use the ubuntu installer to make that "first partition" on the small side, lol
[07:49] <Jamie> hehe ok :P
[07:49] <wheels3572> !cups > wheels3572
[07:50] <erdrick> how do i find out what version of xorg i have running?
[07:50] <scrappy_> signature16: ive got a proxim orinoco its the only one ive ever used but it works pretty much everywhere these days even in freebsd off the bat
[07:50] <eyequeue> erdrick, dpkg -l xserver-xorg
[07:50] <scrappy_> signature16: plus has external antenna port :)
[07:51] <mianos> hi all
[07:51] <roicominutsoup> hi
[07:51] <signature16> scrappy_: just any of these? http://www.proxim.com/products/wifi/client/
[07:52] <BlueEagle> clearzen: about the sharing of IRQs between PCMCIA and NICs I don't think that's very unusual. Unless you're using ISA cards IRQs will probably not be the problem.
[07:52] <Tear> anybody know how to change display settings
[07:52] <logic> everytime i boot my clock is set 2 hours back. any ideas what to do?
[07:52] <wheels3572> Anyone can help I am confused on what to do here with CUPS "If you are asked for a username and password, enter your login username and password or the "root" username and password. On MacOS X, the login username (or "short name") is typically your first name in lowercase."
[07:52] <scrappy_> signature16: mine is the bg card yeah that or the abg
[07:53] <scrappy_> signature16: also heard good things about cisco cards
[07:53] <blue-frog> wheels3572: if you want to access cups thru the web page you need to add cupsys to shadow in /etc/group
[07:53] <blue-frog> wheels3572: and restart cupsys
[07:53] <signature16> scrappy_: hmm thanks a bunch .... i appreciate it. im gunna go check those cards out
[07:53] <mianos> i have a problem with my fresh ubuntu installation -  i have a laptop with a synaptics touchpad and a line in my xorg.conf. as device i set         Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/event2". it works, but sometime i boot my laptop and the touchpad is not on event2 - it is event1. why does this sometimes change?
[07:53] <wheels3572> blue-frog, how do I go about doing this.  I am using xubuntu
[07:53] <bigbill52a> i have an egg problem..i used apt-get to install ubuntu-desktop...and ever since then whenever i use apt-get install i get ** (process:24730): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[07:54] <blue-frog> wheels3572: sudo vi /etc/group  and mind what you are doing
[07:54] <visik7> bigbill52a: same here dunno how to solve
[07:54] <mumbles> has ayone got the drivers for a sound blaster !live moduel no CT4170 ?
[07:54] <wheels3572> blue-frog, I am trying to add my printer so I can print from Linux so I dont have to keep going into Windows
[07:54] <bigbill52a> i wonder if it hurts anything?
[07:55] <blue-frog> wheels3572: understood but sorry I don't use xfce
[07:55] <wheels3572> ok
[07:55] <blue-frog> wheels3572: so I don't know if there are any specific gui for printers
[07:56] <blue-frog> wheels3572: now if you access cups thru localhost:631 you will be bale to do what you want
[07:56] <mianos> any idea?
[07:56] <M06w> i need help uninstalling samba
[07:57] <wheels3572> blue-frog, that's what Im doing through localhost :631
[07:57] <DamianFinol> Hey guys, how do I avoid ubuntu login me off when I'm away?
[07:57] <miles> anyone got a really cool, transparent theme?
[07:57] <erdrick> how do i revert my xorg from x700 to x680 so i can install some working radeon drivers?
[07:57] <edju> Back again.  How do I add a user to the admin group?
[07:57] <wheels3572> blue-frog, I am asked for a username and password and what username and password I use is beyond me lol
[07:57] <eyequeue> edju, sudo adduser foo admin
[07:57] <DamianFinol> edju,  To use sudo?
[07:58] <blue-frog> edju: useradd user admin
[07:58] <blue-frog> wheels3572: you need cupsys added to shadow in /etc/group
[07:59] <blue-frog> wheels3572: shadow:x:42:cupsys
[07:59] <blue-frog> wheels3572: restart cupsys
[07:59] <blue-frog> wheels3572: log with your user login and passd
[08:00] <Shinzetsu> Hi, when I try and run one of my games I get this error on my monitor, and I have to restart my X server, http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/423/img0019wl1.jpg
[08:00] <Jamie> how annoying.. i installed dw3 with wine.. and all goe ssmooth.. now i run it and it freez at start :P
[08:00] <edju> eyequeue, That doesn't seem to work.  e.g., sudo visudo returns nothing.
[08:00] <SAN> Installation complete, thanks for all the help bruenig, will restart now and see if everything works...
[08:01] <Shinzetsu> It says: "Out of Range. H: 67 KHz, V: 268 Hz, Max: 1280x1024"
[08:01] <eyequeue> edju, "sudo adduser foo admin"  no visudo
[08:01] <veriquex> lower the game resolution maybe?
[08:01] <omnid> Is there a way to uncompress RAR files?
[08:01] <omnid> I mean is there a program available for it I am unaware of?
[08:01] <Shinzetsu> veriquex: someone said it was something with the refresh rates
[08:02] <edju> exit
[08:02] <omnid> command not found
[08:02] <Shinzetsu> veriquex: like the game is using refresh rates that are not supported by my monitor or xorg.congf
[08:02] <Shinzetsu> veriquex: conf*
[08:02] <edju> oops - wrong keyboard.
[08:02] <veriquex> humm
[08:02] <omnid> haha
[08:02] <wheels3572> blue-frog, I am typing my username and password that i use to log into xubuntu and it wont take it
[08:02] <rx_> hmm...cannot find kynaptic in universe,multiverse...is it normal?
[08:02] <blue-frog> wheels3572: in fact once you have added cupsys to shadow and restarted cupsys it won't ask you for anything
[08:02] <stiv2k> does anyone know what happened to the easyubuntu site?
[08:02] <T`ch> how do i get a log of all the stuff apt installed?
[08:02] <wheels3572> blue-frog, it has lol
[08:03] <wheels3572> still asking lol
[08:03] <atom_> ubuntu remastering problem: preseed undocumented option "d-i base-installer/kernel/override-image string linux-server"; Where is that kernel image on cd?
[08:03] <omnid> looks like edju needs to invest in a KMV switch
[08:03] <veriquex> Shinzetsu: I don't see 67KHz being an unusual setting.
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> stiv2k,  seem to bee down for the last few days
[08:03] <bsdfox> edju, setup synergy :)
[08:03] <stiv2k> Dr_Willis: any place i can download easyubuntu elsewhere?
[08:03] <blue-frog> wheels3572: in /etc/group you have shadow:x:42:cupsys ?
[08:03] <stiv2k> Dr_Willis: like a mirror
[08:03] <sewsops> How do I tell Ubuntu not to upgrade a certain package? Also, my sudoers is messed up I think because I never ran Ubuntu's configuration utility; I installed this through debootstrap and base-config doesn't work anymore. It's fine because I can su but it's kind of annoying because gksu, etc. don't work
[08:03] <veriquex> Shinzetsu: I'm not really experienced about running games in linux, since my linux machine is 300MHz :)
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> stiv2k,  no idea. I perfer to manually install the stuff. :P check the  wiki/forums perhaps for mirrors?
[08:04] <edju> eyequeue, sudo adduser --- admin doesn't work
[08:04] <veriquex> Shinzetsu: just wanted to help
[08:04] <Shinzetsu> veriquex: np, but maybe it was in the xorg.conf or something
[08:04] <eyequeue> edju, are you running this from your primary user account?
[08:04] <veriquex> Shinzetsu: out of curiosity, which game is it?
[08:04] <blue-frog> edju: do you have the right to sudo with your actual user?
[08:04] <Shinzetsu> veriquex: Neverwinter Nights, released in 2002, and it runs on Linux nativeley :- )
[08:05] <edju> eyequeue, It's the only user account.
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> Shinzetsu,  i NEVER did finish that game
[08:05] <Shinzetsu> Dr_Willis: Hehe, me neither, I just play it online
[08:05] <eyequeue> edju, can that user sudo for other things?
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> Shinzetsu,  i saw/played so many BAD servers online.. it got scary.
[08:05] <letters_9> can you offer XP users xp style shares at all ?
[08:05] <eyequeue> edju, sudo gedit /root/deleteme
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> Shinzetsu,  i need to get that game again some time..  they got like a Uber-collectors set. :P
[08:06] <letters_9> or do they have to install samba ?
[08:06] <sharperguy> who plays nordock of neverwinter?
[08:06] <Sat[NL] > hello?  I seem to have a problem with ubuntu (desktop) install (from DVD) .... it does not give any other option than a 640x480 screen resolution, so when I click on install, I cannot see the whole window.  I'm using a philips 180p2 connected (DVI) to a radeon X700 pro
[08:06] <sharperguy> *on
[08:06] <letters_9> ive played it
[08:06] <wedTM> you guys should move that convo to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:06] <letters_9> yeah yeah
[08:06] <Shinzetsu> wedTM: was just about to say that lol
[08:06] <ardchoille> Folks please take the game convo to #games or something
[08:06] <wedTM> hehe
[08:06] <wedTM> gotcha
[08:06] <edju> eyequeue, Nothing.
[08:06] <letters_9> can you offer XP users xp style shares at all ?
[08:06] <Shinzetsu> :-)
[08:06] <wheels3572> blue-frog, yeah I do lol
[08:07] <scrappy_> Sat[NL] : add the line vga=0x317 by hitting the f6 key to edit  it wont work but it should resize the window so you can see
[08:07] <eyequeue> edju, then type gibberish, then try to save
[08:07] <Sat[NL] > scrappy_: ta, will try that
[08:07] <edju> eyequeue, That command returns nothing - nothing happens
[08:08] <edju> eyequeue, Doesn't call gedit.
[08:08] <eyequeue> edju, it's possible your sudo is broken
[08:08] <Sat[NL] >  erm, scrappy_ pm
[08:08] <scrappy_> k
[08:08] <TheGateKeeper> letters_9: yes using samba
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> letters_9,  be sure to enable samba passwords with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'  - and you may want to majke the home share writeable.
[08:09] <edju> How can I get a real root shell?
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> sudo -s
[08:10] <atom_> Preseed file option "d-i base-installer/kernel/override-image string linux-server". Where is that "linux-server" kernel?
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> :P
[08:10] <eyequeue> edju, boot to recovery mode
[08:10] <TheGateKeeper> edju: sudu su
[08:10] <TheGateKeeper> edju: sudo su ooops
[08:10] <eyequeue> TheGateKeeper, Dr_Willis i think his sudo may be broken
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> theres no need to sudo su :)      - sudo -s works fine. :P
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> heh.. glue it!
[08:11] <CountDown> What's the best application for manipulating Palm Pilot backup files so as to retrieve otherwise lost data?
[08:11] <Gnonthgol> In Blender, I have this problem with selecting objects in object mode. Anyone have an idea?
[08:12] <atom_> Can you guys point me to some Ubuntu remastering channel?
[08:12] <usr> hello
[08:12] <phargle> CountDown: hexdump
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> atom_,  not sure thgat one exists.
[08:13] <omnid> what can uncompress .rar files?
[08:13] <ardchoille> atom_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e06
[08:13] <omnid> Is such a thing not available under Linux?
[08:13] <jameson> hello. what should I use to play mp3?
[08:13] <logic> my time is -2 hours everytime i reboot. any ideas?
[08:13] <rockzman> omnid:
[08:13] <Baltazar^2> omnid: apt-get install rar
[08:13] <phargle> logic: set it +2 in your shutdown scripts
[08:13] <rockzman> omnid: sudo apt-get install rar
[08:13] <ardchoille> !inf0 unrar
[08:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inf0 unrar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:13] <eyequeue> !mp3 > jameson
[08:13] <omnid> oh as an install! I see
[08:13] <rockzman> omnid: rar x file name
[08:13] <ardchoille> !inf0 unrar-nonfree
[08:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inf0 unrar-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <usr> help, i've installed Ubuntu 6.06.1 server, I can't login w/ my specified username/password
[08:14] <geokok> Hi.I am having a problem with firefox. I can watch trailers from apple's site but I cant see other quicktime files such as these in "firefox flicks" site.
[08:14] <omnid> rockzman thanks, also very nice name
[08:14] <bluefoxicy> http://www.system76.com/index.php/cPath/53_64  Free Ubuntu stickers o_o
[08:14] <Baltazar^2> omnid: apt-get install rar!rar
[08:14] <Baltazar^2> !rar
[08:14] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:14] <ardchoille> !inf0 unrar-free
[08:14] <sorush2> what do I have to have installed to use the "run" command?
[08:14] <rockzman> omnid: u r welcome : )
[08:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inf0 unrar-free - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <jameson> thx eyequeue
[08:14] <TheGateKeeper> jameson: I am using KDE desktop, and use amarok, xine engine, libxine-extracodecs
[08:14] <eyequeue> np
[08:14] <omnid> you too baltazar lots of responses
[08:14] <letters_9> what about if I run wine, can I offer HD shares from that using MS Client ?
[08:14] <Gnonthgol> In Blender, I have this problem with selecting objects in object mode. Anyone have an idea?
[08:14] <atom_> ardchoille: Thanks, but I'm messing around with install cd, not live cd.
[08:14] <M06w> could someone explain how i uninstall samba if it screwed up when it installed
[08:15] <sorush2> what do I have to have installed to use the "run" command?
[08:15] <ardchoille> atom_: aren't the livecd's also the install cd's?
[08:15] <rockzman> sorush2: what app u want to use?
[08:15] <geokok> anyone knows how to fix my firefox issue?
[08:15] <eobanb> say what, sorush2 ?
[08:15] <rockzman> ardchoille: can you explain what is wrong with my grub?
[08:15] <jameson> can I use Rhythmbox to play music from a ntfs mounted partition ?
[08:15] <atom_> M06w: apt-get --purge remove samba
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> M06w,  what screwed up?
[08:15] <jameson> or just the totem ?
[08:15] <sorush2> !nvidia
[08:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:15] <Tomosaur> lo guys
[08:15] <TheGateKeeper> M06w: use the same apt-get command substituting install for remove
[08:15] <JDahl> I can't find the official guide to install extra codecs etc from restricted. Any has the link handy?
[08:15] <derrickh> Does anyone know why I cant bind a key shortcut for terminal after an XGL install?
[08:16] <eobanb> welcome, Tomosaur
[08:16] <eobanb> !restricted
[08:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:16] <eobanb> there you go, JD
[08:16] <eobanb> JDahl
[08:16] <JDahl> thanks!
[08:16] <rockzman> Is there anyone expert on Grub?
[08:16] <geokok> thanks i ll check there
[08:16] <derrickh> rockzman, what doyou need?
[08:16] <Tomosaur> what's the problem, rockzman?
[08:17] <rockzman> derrickh: Tomosaur my menu.lst is fine, I would like to know why when I choose Windows XP to start it reboots my computer
[08:17] <M06w> i didnt use an apt-get commnd to install it
[08:17] <logic> phargle: is ubuntu so confused about the time that i have to write scripts to correct it?
[08:18] <M06w> i asked it to share a folder and it sayd i needed samba, then asked if i wanted to install
[08:18] <omnid> !rar > omnid
[08:18] <Tomosaur> do you get any kind of error, rockzman?
[08:18] <M06w> samba screwed up somehow when it installed and now i cant install java
[08:18] <derrickh> rockzman: check /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:19] <phargle> !hwclock
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hwclock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <rockzman> Tomosaur: nothing Grub just loads and my boot list appears if I choose windows it reboots what does it means?
[08:19] <derrickh> see if the Windows XP entry points to the right partition
[08:19] <lmosher> Anyone here use a DVD authoring (to make dvd vids) and if so which one?
[08:19] <rockzman> yea it does derrickh
[08:19] <Tomosaur> sounds to me like Grub thinks windows is installed in the wrong place
[08:19] <TheGateKeeper> M06w: use either adept (or synaptic) to remove it open a terminal and type: apt-get remove --purge samba
[08:19] <davidjohnston> ok so I have officially become an idiot but I have reset my ip on my local lan using ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.10 for example
[08:19] <letters_9> yay samba can do windows shares now without have samba installed on windows!
[08:20] <TheGateKeeper> or open a terminal,  ooops
[08:20] <davidjohnston> this works but when I reboot it goes back and grabs a ip from the DHCP
[08:20] <M06w> gatekeeper, i did that already
[08:20] <davidjohnston> how can I get it to always use the static
[08:20] <rockzman> Tomosaur: mmm look , i am sure it is an anomaly, look...i didnt change any config files
[08:20] <M06w> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[08:20] <M06w> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[08:20] <rockzman> Tomosaur: and it always used to be like this
[08:20] <Tomosaur> i know, sometimes grub installs wron
[08:20] <britishseapower> why wont my load average go below 1.0, it used to?
[08:20] <Tomosaur> *wrong
[08:20] <derrickh> rockzman, do you have two linux partitions or just one?
[08:20] <rockzman> derrickh: 1
[08:21] <rockzman> Tomosaur: i have been using it since i installed ubuntu(months ago)
[08:21] <Gnonthgol> M06w: Close windows that installs/uninstalls
[08:21] <TheGateKeeper> M06w: you can't use apt-get in the cli and have adept or synaptic open at the same time
[08:21] <Tomosaur> and it only just started acting strangely?
[08:21] <AstralJava> Hi all, a question for the developers; which way is the best way for installing edgy inside a virtual machine on a dapper laptop?
[08:21] <steve1234> Does anyone know how to get a list of packages which are currently installed in ubuntu?
[08:21] <rockzman> Tomosaur: yea
[08:21] <M06w> i only have x-chat open
[08:21] <rockzman> steve1234: Synaptic
[08:21] <Sakireth> who are opers here?
[08:21] <Tomosaur> rockzman, did it start acting strangley after a kernel update, do you know?
[08:21] <hawkaloogie> M06w, you're using "sudo apt-get" right?
[08:21] <hawkaloogie> Sakireth, why?
[08:22] <steve1234> rockzman: sorry, from the cli
[08:22] <sethk> M06w, did you use sudo?
[08:22] <M06w> yes
[08:22] <Sakireth> i need to get unbanned in #ubuntu-offtopic >_>
[08:22] <sethk> M06w, delete the lock file
[08:22] <davidjohnston> i'm sorry I said everythign really fast a minute ago...can anyone tell me how to set a static ip from the command line in server mode and not have it revert back to using DHCP on a reboot
[08:22] <Jivers> hi, i downloaded ubuntu iso, turns out its the freakin live cd
[08:22] <Sakireth> something happened about 4 months ago, and so i don't see a reason to be banned that long
[08:22] <M06w> the what
[08:22] <Jivers> can i install from the live cd at all?
[08:22] <Killeroid> Jivers: yes
[08:22] <Jivers> sweet!
[08:22] <Jivers> how
[08:22] <Sakireth> Jivers: There's a button on the desktop
[08:22] <rockzman> Tomosaur: mmm but i didnt update my kernel and i checked my menu.lst is right about pointing to my windows partitions
[08:22] <Jivers> oh ok i see it
[08:22] <rockzman> Tomosaur: that is really weirdo
[08:22] <Jivers> lol
[08:22] <sethk> M06w, it gives you an error message about a lock file.  remove it.
[08:22] <Sakireth> Jivers: Run the livecd, and open the installer
[08:22] <lmosher> Anyone here use a DVD authoring (to make dvd vids) and if so which one?
[08:23] <Jivers> anyone run parallels>?
[08:23] <Sat[NL] > scrappy_: where do I actually type that in??
[08:23] <davidjohnston> ok I'm sorry again but does anyone in here use ubuntu server
[08:23] <stiv2k> dammit
[08:23] <atom_> davidjohnston: Edit file in /etc/networking
[08:23] <CountDown> phargle: In that case, Python would be my preferred app.  Any other suggestions for analyzing/recovering Palm Pilot data from backup files?
[08:23] <rockzman> Tomosaur: btw if u want i can use pastebin to send ya my menu.lst
[08:24] <M06w> it wont let me
[08:24] <Tomosaur> rockzman, ok sure
[08:24] <davidjohnston> atom_ thank you I couldn't remember the config file
[08:24] <stiv2k> the easyubuntu site is down, but i found a mirror, but the SVN checkout is still on their main site which is down
[08:24] <sethk> M06w, sudo rm -f
[08:24] <Backeman> I have to go for dualboot, ubuntu/Windows. What I wonder is how Im going to split up my harddrive without reinstalling ubuntu.. I have 50 GB, need about 10 for windows. Is there an easy way to "extract" those 10 GB?
[08:24] <bigbill52a> i may have a solution to my egg problem...
[08:24] <Gnonthgol> rockzman: To be honust i use my bios's boot selector instead, just press ESC after the bios
[08:24] <logic> what is UTC set to in your /etc/default/rcS ?
[08:24] <M06w> do i have to put a file address in that?
[08:24] <atom_> davidjohnston: /etc/network/interfaces
[08:24] <rockzman> Gnonthgol: u have 2 hds or 1 hd with 2 partition?
[08:24] <Jivers> anyone know how to fast switch between os's in parallels
[08:24] <sethk> M06w, a file name?  yes, of course
[08:25] <M06w> just so its clear, i'v only been using ubuntu for two days
[08:25] <sethk> M06w, the sudo makes it run as root, and the -f says erase it even if it is marked read only
[08:25] <Gnonthgol> rockzman: 2 partisions on one hd but grub on another hd
[08:25] <usr> help, i cant logon to my ubuntu server LTS even i setup my usr/passwd correctly during installation
[08:25] <atom_> davidjohnston: # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
[08:25] <atom_> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
[08:25] <atom_> # The loopback network interface
[08:25] <atom_> auto lo
[08:25] <atom_> iface lo inet loopback
[08:25] <atom_> # The primary network interface
[08:25] <atom_> auto eth2
[08:25] <atom_> iface eth2 inet static
[08:25] <atom_>         address 192.168.0.10
[08:25] <atom_>         netmask 255.255.255.0
[08:25] <hc> hi, can you help me with my charset?
[08:25] <atom_>         network 192.168.0.0
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> usr,  what user name did ya use?  ( i HOPE you dident use 'root' )
[08:25] <atom_>         broadcast 192.168.0.255
[08:25] <atom_>         gateway 192.168.0.1
[08:26] <atom_>         # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed
[08:26] <atom_>         dns-nameservers 192.168.0.1
[08:26] <Sakireth> so who are the opers here?
[08:26] <erdrick> can someone tell me how to turn my x.org from 7.0.0 to 6.8.0
[08:26] <usr> i've used "staff" as username
[08:26] <davidjohnston> atom_:  thanks a lot and I know the interfaces I just couldn't remember which config file it was it's been a while
[08:26] <jonas-irc> i've an nforce 2 network card, and my network speed is really slow, howcome??
[08:26] <Gnonthgol> atom_: Pastes to Pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[08:26] <M06w> ok, its gone
[08:26] <codecaine> hi
[08:26] <atom_> Sorry
[08:26] <M06w> now run the first thing again?
[08:26] <rockzman> Gnonthgol Tomosaur   that is the problem i still dunno if the problem is on my windows partition btw i'll paste it wait
[08:27] <sethk> M06w, right
[08:27] <sethk> M06w, see what happens now
[08:27] <Tomosaur> k
[08:27] <Jivers> i'm scared
[08:27] <derrickh> Does anyone know why I cant bind a key shortcut for terminal after an XGL install?
[08:27] <sethk> Jivers, me too
[08:27] <codecaine> when I open a link firefox opens up http://www.arizona.edu/
[08:27] <codecaine> everytime
[08:27] <stiv2k> the easyubuntu site is down, but i found a mirror, but the SVN checkout is still on their main site which is down, any way to get around this???
[08:27] <dm_> Anyone know how to make ipod work with amarok ?
[08:27] <codecaine> how can I fix that?
[08:27] <M06w> same error message
[08:27] <Sakireth> i need someone to unban me in #ubuntu-offtopic >_<
[08:28] <erdrick> is it possible to go from x.org 7.0.0 to 6.8.0
[08:28] <pequatre> #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:28] <pequatre> sh*t
[08:28] <TheGateKeeper> codecaine: Edit -> Preferences
[08:28] <hc> i need help with my charset. i think the charset is wrong in ubuntu itself, not in irssi. how can i change it to iso-8859-1 ?
[08:28] <dm_> Anyone know how to make ipod work with amarok ?
[08:28] <rockzman> Tomosaur Gnonthgol / http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20453
[08:28] <ardchoille> stiv2k: /join #easyubuntu ?
[08:28] <codecaine> my default link is google
[08:28] <atom_> stiv2k: where is that easyubuntu mirror?
[08:28] <codecaine> but if you click on a hyper link in irc it should go to that link
[08:29] <hc> i need help with my charset. i think the charset is wrong in ubuntu itself, not in irssi. how can i change it to iso-8859-1 ?
[08:29] <usr> Dr_Willis, i've used "staff" then my gf's name "hydee", still cant login
[08:29] <jonas-irc> i've an nforce 2 network card, and my network speed is really slow, howcome??
[08:29] <steve1234> Does anyone know how to get a list of packages which are currently installed in ubuntu from the command line?
[08:29] <Jivers> installing from the live cd was a great idea
[08:29] <dm_> Anyone know how to get .rar so i can unzip them ?
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[08:29] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:29] <TheGateKeeper> codecaine: if you where using KDE I could help you, not sure where you go with gnome
[08:29] <Tomosaur> first of all, rockzman, get rid of those old kernel entries lol
[08:30] <pequatre> steve1234, aptitude can tell you that
[08:30] <rockzman> Tomosaur: sure, how?
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> usr,  not sure what the deal is.. could boot to the rescue mode/failsafe mode and add new users.
[08:30] <dm_> Dr_willis thanks, what about ipod to work with amarok ?  : ) ehe
[08:30] <Tomosaur> in your menu.lst file
[08:30] <codecaine> I fixed it ty
[08:30] <sethk> M06w, paste it again, plesae
[08:30] <stiv2k> atom_: here http://users.on.net/~goetz/EasyUbuntu/
[08:30] <stiv2k> ardchoille: thanks
[08:30] <M06w> teh error?
[08:30] <steve1234> pequatre: can i export it to a file?  i want to diff two machines
[08:30] <TheGateKeeper> codecaine: :-)
[08:30] <Tomosaur> see where it says '# howmany=all'?
[08:30] <Tomosaur> change that to '# howmany=1'
[08:30] <pequatre> steve1234, i don't know
[08:31] <Tomosaur> then run 'sudo update-grub' from a terminal
[08:31] <Backeman> I have to go for dualboot, ubuntu/Windows. What I wonder is how Im going to split up my harddrive without reinstalling ubuntu.. I have 50 GB, need about 10 for windows. Is there an easy way to "extract" those 10 GB?
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> dm_,  my answer to an ipod.. normally  uses a large hammer.
[08:31] <Gnonthgol> rockzman: looks all right for me. Try to boot windows another way
[08:31] <Comrade-Sergei> how do you add more video modes from xorg.conf?
[08:31] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: lol
[08:31] <rockzman> Gnonthgol: sure : ) thanks i'll just try around
[08:32] <rockzman> Gnonthgol: it does not boot anyway =\
[08:32] <Gnonthgol> Backeman: System > administration > Discs
[08:32] <ZAISMIT> i want to learn english? help me in it
[08:32] <ardchoille> ZAISMIT: That is quite ot for this channel
[08:32] <atom_> staeve1234: dpkg --get-selections
[08:33] <Comrade-Sergei> how do you add more video modes from xorg.conf?
[08:33] <utab> hello there
[08:33] <dm_> DR_Willis mine too but after 3 other HDD based MP3 players, its time to just give in ... Toshiba and Philips both crapped out on me
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> dm_,  or buy a radio? :P
[08:33] <utab> how to exclude a directory in a tar operation
 where i am may to learn english?
[08:34] <facugaich> steve1234: dpkg -l > file
[08:34] <rockzman> Tomosaur: you there mate?
[08:34] <steve1234> atom_:  sweet-jesus
[08:34] <Tomosaur> yup
[08:34] <steve1234> :)
[08:34] <ardchoille> utab: --exclude=/path/to/dir
[08:34] <Tomosaur> rockzman, yup :P
[08:34] <rockzman> Tomosaur: right
[08:34] <ardchoille> ZAISMIT: Please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:34] <davidjohnston> atom_:  thanks that took care of everything
[08:34] <Backeman> Gnonthgol: But how do I "extract" 10 GB from that, don't I have to unmount it, wont tjat crash the system?
[08:34] <utab> msg ardchoille I am using that one but it is still including it
[08:35] <Backeman> Gnonthgol: I only have one drive
[08:35] <TheGateKeeper> utab: example: --exclude=/proc
[08:35] <stiv2k> steve@desktop:~/easyubuntu$ gksudo easyubuntu/easyubuntu.py
[08:35] <stiv2k> sudo: easyubuntu/easyubuntu.py: command not found
[08:35] <stiv2k> why is it saying that ?
[08:35] <Tomosaur> rockzman, are you not receiving my replies in PM?
[08:35] <unfun> How do I quit a program if it stuck, In xp you do ctrl+alt+delete, how do you do it in ubuntu?
[08:35] <utab> msg ardchoille yes it is but it is including
[08:35] <rockzman> Tomosaur:  mabe u r not replying
[08:35] <atom_> steve1234: There was another command I can't remember...
[08:35] <rockzman> Tomosaur: lol
[08:35] <Tomosaur> rockzman, i am lol
[08:35] <davidjohnston> also I'm new to ubuntu in general....is there a way to switch your repositories or does it automatically search an online repository too when it does installs from apt-get
[08:35] <Tomosaur> wait there
[08:35] <Akein> is there a way to return every file with X number of a certain character or less, and not to return files with more than that number?
[08:35] <TheGateKeeper> utab: example: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311&highlight=HOWTO%3A+backup
[08:35] <IRCMonkeyX> hi, people, do u know babylon dictionary ? i am looking for a dictionary  that is similar to babylon, to use in  ubuntu
[08:36] <rockzman> try now Tomosaur
[08:36] <facugaich> steve1234: add " > file " to what atom_ said
[08:36] <priyank> hey, im trying to compile a gtk2 app, and it returns an error as "gtk not installed
[08:36] <priyank> "
[08:36] <priyank> am i missing any development libs?
[08:36] <utab> msg TheGateKeeper yes I need that for backup
[08:36] <Gnonthgol> Backeman: I would give it a try, not use to meany programs, and you could just use the CD
[08:36] <rockzman> Tomosaur:  are u saying anything?
[08:36] <utab> msg TheGateKeeper I used that link
[08:36] <TheGateKeeper> utab: need to ensure parameters come before the place you are tar to/from
[08:37] <ardchoille> utab: ok, I don't know what to tell you.. it works for me and it's what the man page says
[08:37] <cschneid> does anybody know of a command line tool that just pops up a window in gnome/xwindows with a message that I pass it?
[08:37] <Tomosaur> rockzman, yeah i just did right this second
[08:37] <usr> Dr_Willis, its working now, i think the problem lies in my password, i tried adding numbers
[08:37] <priyank> whats the package name for Gtk development libs ?
[08:37] <IRCMonkeyX> hi, people, do u know babylon dictionary ? i am looking for a dictionary  that is similar to babylon, to use in  ubuntu
[08:37] <davidjohnston> anyway thanks guys
[08:37] <rockzman> Tomosaur: oh my
[08:37] <rockzman> reconnect Tomosaur
[08:37] <TheGateKeeper> utab: not working?
[08:37] <rockzman> Tomosaur:  i'll also
[08:37] <Tomosaur> rockzman, hold on a second
[08:37] <rockzman> ok
[08:37] <IRCMonkeyX> or a multi dictionary and not text based ? could you suggest pls ?
[08:37] <M06w> sethk you want the error message right
[08:37] <utab> msg TheGateKeeper to exclude a directory called "xp" under home
[08:38] <sethk> M06w, yes
[08:38] <M06w> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[08:38] <M06w> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[08:38] <usr> Dr_Willis, tnx for the help
[08:38] <utab> msg TheGateKeeper how do I have to use that
[08:38] <ardchoille> utab: You're not putting "msg" at the beginning of the command are you? lol
[08:38] <IRCMonkeyX> !dictionary > ircmonkeyx
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dictionary - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <Akein> is there a way to return every file with X number of a certain character or less, and not to return files with more than that number?
[08:38] <utab> msg ardchoille yes I am
[08:38] <TheGateKeeper> utab: show me what you are already using
[08:38] <Tomosaur> rockzman, wb
[08:38] <pequatre> aptitude
[08:39] <IRCMonkeyX> !translator > ircmonkeyx
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about translator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <rockzman> Tomosaur: =)
[08:39] <lix> M06w: Do you have administrator rights?
[08:39] <unfun> Whats wrong if I get disconnected from the net after some hours?
[08:39] <Jivers> anyone know how to fast switch between guest and host os in parallels
[08:39] <M06w> im the only user on this computer
[08:39] <Jivers> full screen
[08:39] <ardchoille> utab: Please do *NOT* put "msg" at the beginning of your IRC posts.. it's quite annoying
[08:39] <M06w> i should
[08:39] <Tomosaur> rockzman, im reading you but you're not reading me
[08:39] <lix> M06w: Put "sudo" infront of the command
[08:39] <utab> msg TheGateKeeper  tar cvpzf backup.tgz / --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys -r --exclude=~/xp/*
[08:39] <rockzman> Tomosaur: sup with u?
[08:39] <utab> msg TheGateKeeper  tar cvpzf backup.tgz / --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys --exclude=~/xp/*
[08:39] <Tomosaur> rockzman, its not me lol I can pm with everyone else except you :P
[08:40] <utab> msg TheGateKeeper  -r is not there
[08:40] <IRCMonkeyX>  no one uses a multi-translator ?
[08:40] <ardchoille> utab: your command is wrong
[08:40] <rockzman> Tomosaur: me also
[08:40] <M06w> dpkg: error processing samba (--purge):
[08:40] <M06w>  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 102
[08:40] <M06w> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:40] <M06w>  samba
[08:40] <M06w> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:40] <Tomosaur> rockzman, weird
[08:40] <rockzman> Tomosaur: we are not supposed to pm each other haha
[08:40] <Unguide1> hello all
[08:41] <lix> M06w: did you update the repositories first?
[08:41] <Tomosaur> rockzman, i don't have msn lol
[08:41] <lix> M06w: try apt-get update first
[08:41] <M06w> first?
[08:41] <rockzman> Tomosaur: holey shit
[08:41] <Tomosaur> rockzman, gimme a second ill try something
[08:41] <utab> msg ardchoille what is wrong
[08:41] <Unguide1> anyone have time for a ques?
[08:41] <ardchoille> utab: Please do *NOT* put "msg" at the beginning of your IRC posts.. it's quite annoying
[08:41] <sethk> M06w, first isn't part of the command.  he meant before the other apt-get command
[08:41] <rockzman> oki
[08:41] <rockzman> Tomosaur: oki
[08:42] <Tomosaur> rockzman, ill just email you instructions lol
[08:42] <lix> M06w: yes. "sudo apt-get update"
[08:42] <utab> msg ardchoille sorry what do I have to use
[08:42] <M06w> what other
[08:42] <Tomosaur> rockzman, gimme a few minutes
[08:42] <rockzman> Tomosaur: nice
[08:42] <ardchoille> /ignore utab
[08:42] <harmental> how can i restart samba?
[08:42] <M06w> lix, i dont know what your talking about
[08:43] <lix> M06w: :) k. what are you trying to do?
[08:43] <Unguide1> I am currently running the live cd version of ubuntu and would like to install from here. I would like to use ubuntu as a server with a GUI. I am new to linux. what is the best way to do this
[08:43] <M06w> uninstall samba
[08:43] <lix> M06w: in the command line? or woth synaptic?
[08:44] <lix> M06w: s/woth/with
[08:44] <M06w> first synaptic, then the other
[08:44] <erdrick> is it possible to go from x.org 7.0.0 to 6.8.0
[08:44] <lix> M06w: what "other"?
[08:44] <M06w> the command line
[08:45] <lix> M06w: can you update the package list in synaptic first?
[08:45] <slacker|food> pequatre: kewl
[08:45] <lix> M06w: (getting the latest pakacge list. update button)
[08:45] <slacker|food> pequatre: re sudo working again :)
[08:45] <utab> can someone help me about tar and excluding some directories
[08:45] <pequatre> slacker, yep
[08:45] <utab> I am trying to exclude a directory under home
[08:45] <eegore> How does command line printing work in dapper
[08:45] <slacker> utab: man tar
[08:45] <pequatre> dunno why but i had been ejected out of all the groups :/
[08:45] <M06w> there isnt an update button
[08:46] <utab> I checked the tar man but there is still sth wrong
[08:46] <lix> M06w: sorry. its called "reload"
[08:46] <utab> I try to use --exclude
[08:46] <lix> M06w: in the command line its called "update"+
[08:46] <M06w> there isnt one of those ether
[08:46] <lix> M06w: what default language do you use?
[08:46] <TheGateKeeper> utab: the problem lies in where you put / which must be at the end, your xp dir also needs correcting /home/<user>/xp or where ever it is use what I have put in pastebin but correct the xp path: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20466
[08:47] <M06w> american english
[08:47] <slacker> utab: --exclude-from=$FILE
[08:47] <slacker> and $file had the files which you don't want to ave
[08:47] <lix> M06w: it's a button with a blue round arrow (should be the first button)
[08:47] <slacker> s/ave/have
[08:47] <pequatre> steve1234, still here ?
[08:48] <slacker> pequatre: it also could have been a change in the hostname i realized while I was eating
[08:48] <M06w> only buttons i got are help, advanced, apply, cancel, and ok
[08:48] <Magicdead> uhm has ubuntu got something like syste recovery that installs basic system stuff again ?
[08:48] <Tomosaur> rockzman, email sent
[08:49] <eegore> Magicdead: Usually you back up your /etc directory
[08:49] <rockzman> Tomosaur: try accepting dcc chat conversation
[08:49] <romulo> hi, there are any new how-to for setting up XGL with fglrx(ATI)?
[08:49] <Tomosaur> rockzman, tried it, said connection refused
[08:49] <lix> M06w: and in the menu bar: Edit > reload package information
[08:49] <rockzman> lol ?
[08:49] <rockzman> send one Tomosaur
[08:49] <Tomosaur> rockzman, k
[08:49] <Gnonthgol> Magicdead: If you uninstalled stuff, you probably uninstalled the Ubuntu packages too, reinstall them
[08:49] <eegore> Then restore if the original gets corrupted
[08:49] <Tomosaur> rockzman, says 'waiting for acknowledgement'
[08:49] <M06w> there isnt a menubar
[08:50] <rockzman> nothing has appeared
[08:50] <pequatre> steve1234, "aptitude search ~i > ~/Desktop/installed.txt" :)
[08:50] <Tomosaur> rockzman, I sent the email anyway, check your inbox
[08:50] <eegore> tar is a good utility for this
[08:50] <rockzman> Tomosaur: I am
[08:50] <rockzman> : )
[08:50] <Tomosaur> rockzman, k :)
[08:50] <lix> M06w: are you sure, you're talking about synaptic?
[08:50] <eegore> Lots of nice options
[08:50] <M06w> i think so
 Magicdead: Usually you back up your /etc directory<-- well my problem is, i ran fsck but accidentally forgot to unmount the drive -_- now all my /var subfolders got deleted... i can boot the system and log in as root in the commandline, but i can't start up eth0, can't start an xserver and so on... and i don't wanna set the whole system up from scratch ....
[08:51] <M06w> the window that opens when you click applications>ad/remove
[08:51] <eXistenZ> !ipv6
[08:51] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:51] <lix> M06w:  :) and you're using ubuntu dapper-drake?
[08:51] <M06w> as far as i know
[08:51] <lix> M06w: do you want to try it in the command line?
[08:51] <slacker> pequatre: looks like you had something simialir to this.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234912&highlight=locked+sudo
[08:51] <lix> M06w: i'll try to assist you
[08:52] <Ziggamon> hi! does anyone know where to get inkscape 0.44 for ubuntu?
[08:52] <M06w> does that mean you wernt before?
[08:52] <pequatre> slacker, a script did it. I didn't ! :)
[08:52] <lix> M06w: I don't understand your question
[08:52] <M06w> nvm
[08:52] <slacker> pequatre: you told me, but the problem looks to be similair
[08:53] <lix> M06w: yes the thing i wanted to help you first
[08:54] <lix> M06w: you know, what a command line (terminal) is?
[08:54] <M06w> yes
[08:54] <lix> M06w: perfect
[08:54] <lix> M06w: open a terminal window. then do "sudo apt-get update"
[08:54] <lix> M06w: you get an error there?
[08:54] <neil__> Boa tarde
[08:54] <utab> TheGateKeeper , thank you. I misunderstood sth very easy
[08:54] <pequatre> slacker, yes that's right. registering into one group deleted from the rest :/ unfortunately i don't recall what i've done
[08:54] <M06w> nope
[08:54] <lix> M06w: fine. so the list is updated now.
[08:55] <mytruehero> When I try to access a webpage that uses .cgi, Firefox tries to download the file instead of rendering it. How can I fix this?
[08:55] <slacker> pequatre: usermod -G new_group without the -a
[08:55] <unfun> for some reason, my internet completely disconnects after 10-15 minutes of being logged in and the only way to come back is typing sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart. firefox, etc. shows that its not connected but the connection properties window always shows the signal strength with at least 95% (im on a wireless connection). I've never had this problem with windows on this computer so the router and signal is fine so it m
[08:55] <Magicdead> anyone got an idea how i could get my /var back without reinstalling the whole system?
[08:55] <lix> M06w: then do "sudo apt-get remove --purge samba"
[08:55] <soundray> mytruehero: that needs to be fixed on the server side
[08:55] <TheGateKeeper> utab: got there in the end then :-) don't worry I had the same problem, drove me nuts for quite a while before the penny dropped
[08:55] <eegore> Googling does now help either
[08:55] <eegore> no*
[08:56] <rockzman> Tomosaur: omg man su - means ?
[08:56] <M06w> error
[08:56] <Brownster> Magicdead, just a thought, if it's a ext2 partition think there's some undelete software out there
[08:56] <mytruehero> soundray: I'm looking at the same site in OS X, and it's working fine.
[08:56] <M06w> same as last
[08:56] <eegore> super user
[08:56] <mumbles> any sound card wizzards out here ?
[08:56] <Tomosaur> rockzman, su = super user
[08:56] <Magicdead> brownster it's ext3
[08:56] <M06w> brb
[08:56] <slacker> and sudo means?
[08:56] <eegore> rockzman: ^
[08:56] <Tomosaur> rockzman, super user do
[08:57] <rockzman> Tomosaur: yea but the "-"
[08:57] <rockzman> what for is that
[08:57] <Tomosaur> rockzman, why do you need to do that?
[08:57] <lix> M06w: the lock error? or an other one?
[08:57] <slacker> the - is that you inherit the enviroment as the user
[08:57] <slacker> rockzman: su - is login as root, with the root enviroment, otherwise you will use your envoriment
[08:58] <HellDragon> hi
[08:58] <lix> M06w: the synaptic package manager application has to be closed, when you want to do this in the command line
[08:58] <sgcplayer> I want to see an icon for my vfat partition on my Dapper desktop; I've tried searching forums, but MUCH threads about much more complex stuff appear
[08:58] <lix> M06w: make sure synaptic is closed
[08:58] <slacker> rockzman: check man su
[08:58] <M06w> unless its hiding its closed
[08:59] <hyperpenguin> Man... Ubuntu rocks. EVERYTHING works out of the box. Thanks guys! :D
[08:59] <Tomosaur> not being one to let credit go to waste, you're welcome hyperpenguin
[08:59] <soundray> slacker: do not recommend su here, please
[08:59] <lix> M06w: please do "ps aux | grep synaptic"
[08:59] <utab> TheGateKeeper, I remembered IRC, thank GOD
[08:59] <slacker> soundray: i'm not recommending su
[08:59] <utab> TheGateKeeper, thx
[08:59] <slacker> i'm explaining the su - what it means
[08:59] <lix> M06w: it shows you if the application is still running
[08:59] <Tomosaur> soundray, he's just explaining it
[08:59] <soundray> slacker: that's fine then
[08:59] <slacker> sudo su - will do the same
[09:00] <TheGateKeeper> utab: yw :-)
[09:00] <lix> M06w: you can kill is by doing "sudo killall synaptic"
[09:00] <utab> TheGateKeeper, yw ?
[09:00] <slacker> and you cannot su on a default ubuntu install
[09:00] <M06w> master    9077  0.0  0.1   2880   804 pts/0    S+   15:00   0:00 grep synaptic
[09:00] <TheGateKeeper> utab: you're welcome :-)
[09:00] <M06w> does that mean its still running
[09:00] <lix> M06w: so it's not running
[09:00] <utab> TheGateKeeper, thx
[09:01] <soundray> lix: you may need to instruct him to close the Add-Remove Apps thing
[09:01] <sirjohn> hello all. i am having problems with a sound blaster card - module no CT4170 anyone got any pointers ?
[09:01] <lix> soundray: be my guest :)
[09:01] <M06w> all thats open is xchat and the terminal window
[09:01] <sirjohn> ive googled for it and cant find anything that works
[09:01] <Lattyware> Can anyone tell me how to make a shortcut to somthing that requires root? For example, how to make an application launcher that launches synaptic without doing sudo synaptic and then putting it into terminal.
[09:02] <blabit> how do I view windows media files using firefox?
[09:02] <Tomosaur> blabit, download 'mplayer'
[09:02] <blabit> is that a plugin?
[09:02] <Magicdead> mplayer-mozilla ;)
[09:02] <Tomosaur> blabit, and the essential codecs pack
[09:02] <slacker> blabit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=232043
[09:02] <Magicdead> would be the plugin iirc
[09:02] <Brownster> Magicdead, just found some interesting bits on ext3, says u cant undelete unlike ext2
[09:02] <blabit> tomosoar wehre do i get those?
[09:03] <Brownster> Magicdead, http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html
[09:03] <Tomosaur> blabit, you can get it from synaptic or from the mplayer website
[09:03] <kr4z> Lattyware: you can use gksu instead of sudo if you don't want to use a terminal
[09:03] <pequatre> Lattyware, "gksudo synaptic" would be the command
[09:03] <Magicdead> brownster i just copied the /var from the live cd to my deleted /var... maybe this works
[09:03] <soundray> Lattyware: launch it with gksudo synaptic
[09:03] <eegore> Is foomatic required for command line printing
[09:03] <lix> M06w: i have to check on your error again
[09:03] <slacker> blabit: its in the reps
[09:03] <Lattyware> ah, thanks
[09:03] <Tomosaur> blabit, http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/news.html is the website
[09:03] <soundray> eegore: not necessarily
[09:03] <Brownster> Magicdead, ill cross my fingers for you!
[09:03] <M06w> yyou want me to paste it again?
[09:04] <Magicdead> thx ^^
[09:04] <slacker> blabit: add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free
[09:04] <eegore> soundray: well, I can't seem top command line print using the lpr pipe
[09:04] <Brownster> Magicdead, so system is 'mostly' working? just x window and eth0 not?
[09:04] <mytruehero> I'm having trouble figuring out which plugin will let me view apple.com/trailers movies in Firefox. Does anyone happen to know?
[09:04] <slacker> mytruehero: mplayer/gxine
[09:04] <soundray> eegore: but you can print through gnome?
[09:04] <lix> M06w: maybe try with "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[09:05] <eegore> Takes me too long
[09:05] <eegore> I am a command line junkie
[09:05] <utab> I have read the kubuntu site
[09:05] <soundray> eegore: but if it works, what you need is probably just the cupsys-bsd package
[09:05] <Magicdead> Brownster well  many things ain't working, like lynx didnt work either and so on, and there0s many "fail" messages at boot progess, but i get to a commandline, am able to use commands, and run several programs
[09:05] <blabit> anyone know the command for the 32 essential codecs?
[09:05] <utab> and there are ways to upgrade to 6.06 which is the easiest
[09:05] <neutrinomass> I've got this problem with glade: I try to open a .glade file created with an older version of glade. It opens, but there is nothing in the windows of my program ... any ideas ?
[09:05] <neutrinomass> !upgrade > utab
[09:06] <slacker> blabit: check the link I gave you
[09:06] <M06w> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:06] <M06w>   samba: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1) but it is not installed
[09:06] <M06w> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[09:06] <neutrinomass> M06w: Bug. File it ... (check if it's already known first please )
[09:06] <Brownster> Magicdead, that's harsh, wish I could help more
[09:06] <tapas> hi
[09:06] <tapas> is 6.06's libpam rtlimits aware?
[09:06] <eegore> nnot even availavble
[09:07] <utab> how to open the web links provided in the messages
[09:07] <lix> M06w: so you want samba to be removed? or installed? there is a dependency that apt doesnt want to install
[09:07] <M06w> how do i do that
[09:07] <soundray> !info cupsys-bsd
[09:07] <ubotu> cupsys-bsd: Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - BSD commands. In component main, is extra. Version 1.2.2-0ubuntu0.6.06 (dapper), package size 33 kB, installed size 160 kB
[09:07] <soundray> eegore: ^^
[09:07] <neutrinomass> M06w: Actually, sorry, that's not it. Try sudo apt-get install -f
[09:07] <M06w> i want to remove it so that i can reinstall it
[09:07] <Magicdead> brownster i hope it's only /var that got deleted and that the  var from livecd helps, but i think most other files are there :) i really hope it works... dont wanna set up webserver/ftpserver/mailserver and so on again... anyways, going to rstart and try, wish me luck ^^
[09:07] <slacker> M06w: try installing it with aptitude, its better with dependencies
[09:07] <M06w> right now it keeps screwing up when i install java
[09:07] <neutrinomass> M06w: Then do "sudo aptitude reinstall samba-common"
[09:08] <lix> M06w: try "sudo apt-get install samba-common"
[09:08] <slacker> synta is similair to apt-get, only replace apt-get with aptitude
[09:08] <eegore> it is already installed
[09:08] <blabit> ok......installed mplayer for mozilla...still saying i have no media plugin installed...any clue why?
[09:08] <slacker> blabit: restarted firefox?
[09:08] <soundray> slacker, neutrinomass: this guy is at the edge of his capacity - please let lix deal with him and don't confuse
[09:08] <M06w> that didnt have any errors
[09:09] <blabit> yeah, just did......still nothing
[09:09] <neutrinomass> soundray: Ok, sorry...
[09:09] <slacker> blabit: also installed mplayer?
[09:09] <lix> M06w: fine. now try "sudo apt-get upgrade" again
[09:09] <utab> ubotu: is there a way to open the web links provided in the text messages
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is there a way to open the web links provided in the text messages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <blabit> yeah......how can i verify the install?
[09:09] <eegore> ubotu: command line printing
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about command line printing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <lix> soundray :)
[09:09] <utab> ubotu: thx
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <bruenig> blabit, ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins and make sure it is there
[09:09] <M06w> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:09] <soundray> eegore: have you set the printer you want to print on as default in System-Administration-Printers?
[09:09] <lix> M06w: fine :)
[09:09] <unfun>  for some reason, my internet completely disconnects after 10-15 minutes of being logged in and the only way to come back is typing sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart. firefox, etc. shows that its not connected but the connection properties window always shows the signal strength with at least 95% (im on a wireless connection). I've never had this problem with windows on this computer so the router and signal is fine so it 
[09:09] <lix> M06w: done ;)
[09:10] <M06w> thanks
[09:10] <lix> M06w: i'm glad, I could help!
[09:10] <M06w> me to
[09:10] <blabit> flashplayer.xpt  libflashplayer.so  libunixprintplugin.so
[09:10] <mytruehero> slacker: I installed some xine packages, and now when I access the movie pages, it opens the video in a separate app. Is there any way to get it to play right in the browser?
[09:10] <blabit> is that what i am looking for?
[09:10] <Jivers> what happened to virtue desktops
[09:10] <slacker> mytruehero: sorry? letme read some backlog before I answer
[09:11] <soundray> Jivers: they turned into vice desktops
[09:11] <soundray> scnr
[09:11] <Jivers> oh
[09:11] <bruenig> blabit, should be a bunch of t hings that say mplayerplug-in-*
[09:11] <Jivers> funny
[09:11] <balcomes> hi, I have a widescreen laptop and all of my video players play in the wrong aspect ratio, changing the settings in the options/properties menu does nothing
[09:11] <blabit> Bruenig, they are not there.........why would the command not work?
[09:11] <bruenig> blabit, you did sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer?
[09:11] <soundray> Jivers: please rephrase your question, I'll try to be serious this time.
[09:11] <slacker> mytruehero: could you post the question again?
[09:11] <slacker> mytruehero: and tell me what you did
[09:12] <Jivers> there was a program that you could use with parallels that let you switch between os's very fast
[09:12] <blabit> Bruenig, what is the command to copy into terminal?
[09:12] <bruenig> sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[09:12] <sirjohn> hello all. i am having problems with a sound blaster card - module no CT4170 anyone got any pointers ?
[09:12] <Jivers> there were videos: google parallels + virtue desktops
[09:12] <sirjohn> ive googled for it and cant find anything that works
[09:12] <lix> blabit: ctrl+shift>v
[09:12] <jatt> with gnome (dapper) I want to remove the "Trash" icon on my desktop (I only want to have a trash icon on one of my panels). How can I remove it (DEL doesn't do it)?
[09:12] <lix> blabit: ctrl+shift+v
[09:12] <Jivers> i cant find virtue desktops
[09:12] <bw__> hello, i am having troubles to get ubuntu installed. Somehow only the normal install did work (desktop version) but it hangs after 70% of the installation. (i am connection right now via the ubuntu install cd)
[09:12] <blabit> trying now...
[09:12] <bruenig> jatt, I didn't know you could get a trash icon on the desktop
[09:12] <bw__> (dapper btw)
[09:12] <soundray> Jivers: is it virtu*al* desktops?
[09:13] <Jivers> the name was Virtue Desktops
[09:13] <bruenig> jatt, open up a terminal and do cd Desktop
[09:13] <Jivers> i assume it was a play on virtual
[09:13] <soundray> Jivers: never heard, sorry
[09:13] <blabit> ok.....so it ran that command now it should work?
[09:13] <jatt> bruenig: well I do have one and want get rid of it :).
[09:13] <bruenig> jatt, then do rm -rf Trash, if Trash is what it is called
[09:13] <bruenig> blabit, did it say it installed?
[09:14] <blabit> yeah, bruenig, its working.
[09:14] <blabit> thanks a million
[09:14] <bruenig> hooray for me
[09:14] <slacker> :)
[09:14] <fragoulas> HELLO GUYS
[09:14] <bruenig> jatt did that work?
[09:14] <mytruehero> slacker: I'm trying to figure out how to get apple.com/trailers movies to play in my browser. I installed a bunch of mplayer/xine packages, not really knowing what I was doing, and now the vids launch in a separate app, when I'd rather they played right in the browser.
[09:14] <fragoulas> CAN SOMEONE TELL ME IF AUDACIOUS supports UTF8??
[09:14] <jatt> bruenig: I did now something less intrusive. I did mv .Trash /tmp but the Trash icon doesn't go away (I guess is because the gnome virtual filesystem didn't got the deletion).
[09:14] <slacker> ahhh, mytruehero with that I can't help you
[09:14] <erUSUL> !caps > Fred
[09:15] <slacker> mytruehero: i have the same "problem"
[09:15] <erUSUL> !caps > fragoulas
[09:15] <michaeljb2005> how can I get ubuntu to see windows shared folders?
[09:15] <erUSUL> Fred: sorry
[09:15] <mrbigstuff28> does anyone know how to get wine to work right
[09:15] <jatt> I was thinking about a gconf key which could be used to activate/deactivate the Trash icon
[09:15] <bruenig> mrbigstuff28, what is the problem
[09:15] <mrbigstuff28> SilkRoad Online wont connect to the server
[09:16] <bruenig> jatt, open up a terminal and do rm -rf Desktop/Trash
[09:16] <mrbigstuff28> sim tryin to fix it for my Stepbro
[09:16] <bw__> anyone cal hellp get ubuntu installed?
[09:16] <stiv2k> is there a way to mount my windows partition and have it accessible to all users?
[09:16] <bw__> it seems to hang without any notice
[09:16] <erUSUL> !ntfs > stiv2k
[09:16] <stiv2k> erUSUL: thanks
[09:16] <mrbigstuff28> bruenig u know what im missing?
[09:17] <mrbigstuff28> it says
[09:17] <jatt> bruenig: I don't have such directory. In my case the Trash directory is called ".Trash" with the leading . and without quotes: ls: Desktop/Trash: No such file or directory
[09:17] <stefg> bw__: first advice: get the alternate install CD if you value your partition table :-)
[09:17] <bruenig> mrbigstuff28, generally it works pretty simply, you install it via synaptic or what not, then after installation run winecfg, after running winecfg all you have to do is 'wine /path/to'whatever.exe
[09:17] <Stormx2> checking build system type... Invalid configuration `i686-pc-linux-oldld': machine `i686-pc-linux' not recognized <-- HELPPLZ
[09:17] <soundray> michaeljb2005: have you tried via Places-Network Servers?
[09:17] <michaeljb2005> how can I get ubuntu to see windows shared folders in samba?
[09:17] <bruenig> */path/to/whatever.exe
[09:17] <Stormx2> bruenig: Bad way of launching wine.
[09:17] <michaeljb2005> yeah it sees nothing
[09:17] <bruenig> Jatt, well what is the icon called on desktop
[09:18] <mrbigstuff28> The server is in examination or out of working time connect to http://www.silkroadonline.co.kr to see more
[09:18] <mrbigstuff28> Silkroad online runs on my PC
[09:18] <slacker> michaeljb2005: man smbclient
[09:18] <mrbigstuff28> were on the same network
[09:18] <bruenig> Stormx2, bad? how so?
[09:18] <jatt> bruenig: I found it. The key is called /apps/nautilus/desktop/trash_icon_visible. I deactivated the key with gconf_editor and the Trash icon is not shown anymore as I wanted, thanks.
[09:18] <mrbigstuff28> any ideas bruenig
[09:18] <slacker> michaeljb2005: don't know how to get this in a GUI
[09:18] <NickGarvey> what command would I use to rename ._somethingFILE1 to FILE1 and ._somethingFILE2 to FILE2, in one command
[09:18] <Stormx2> bruenig: First get to the correct working directory (cd whatever), then wine "C:/Program Files/Whatever.exe"
[09:19] <bw__> stefg, how do you mean alternate? if I try anything out of the 'normal' way it doesn't even get to an install
[09:19] <NickGarvey> I have a lot of files to rename :)
[09:19] <michaeljb2005> I tried smbclient //computername/directory and it said it couldn't connect
[09:19] <Sobieski> where can i find driver so i can use my 7800GT and Soundblaster X-Fi?
[09:19] <bruenig> Stormx2, why is that better?
[09:19] <slacker> michaeljb2005: try adding the 0U $user to that line
[09:19] <slacker> s/0U/-U/
[09:19] <Stormx2> bruenig: Gets the working directory correct, wine environmentals work under any condition
[09:20] <michaeljb2005> slacker:  What?
[09:20] <slacker> michaeljb2005: try smbclient -U $user //computername/directory
[09:20] <stefg> bw__: there's the 'Desktop' i.e. Live-CDs and there's the 'Alternate' i.e. textmode install -CD's. The Desktop ones have a nasty habit of breaking your partition table at times, which can be annoying
[09:20] <michaeljb2005> slacker: $user = windows user?
[09:20] <bruenig> so it is a good practice to do that? Why does it not fail when I launch it when the .exe is in /opt or /home/username?
[09:20] <slacker> michaeljb2005: or change computername to the IP address
[09:20] <slacker> michaeljb2005: yes
[09:21] <mrbigstuff28> brenig is there something missing?
[09:21] <soundray> slacker: why not use $LOGNAME instead of $user? That way it will work if he copies it literally.
[09:21] <xenocide> Hey. Where is the "keyboard" shortcuts file stored? My Home/pgup/pgdown things arn't working since I wanted [ctrl] [alt] [home]  to play/pause music :(
[09:21] <bruenig> mrbigstuff28, I don't know
[09:21] <darkowl> Hello
[09:21] <darkowl> I have a question...
[09:21] <michaeljb2005> slacker: How can I make it see it from here on out without having to do that
[09:21] <Gingillo> hi, i have a problem:  When i try to install (or simply run by the cd) kubuntu, it stops sto "mounting root file system"
[09:21] <slacker> soundray: because I don't know if the windows user has the same name
[09:21] <mrbigstuff28> hmm
[09:21] <soundray> slacker: that's a thought...
[09:21] <darkowl> Can I remove gnome,kde and all x and still have fb ?
[09:22] <Sobieski> please, i am a complete beginner to ubuntu and linux as a whole, where can i find drivers so i can use my 7800GT Video Card and Soundblaster X-Fi Sound Card?
[09:22] <stiv2k> werd
[09:22] <stiv2k> now i have one more problem
[09:22] <stiv2k> my sound isn't working
[09:22] <michaeljb2005> slacker: Will adding that line to sessions make it do it automatically from here on out?
[09:22] <slacker> michaeljb2005: there is someting called like smbfs, but I couldn't get that working with BSD and haven't tried it with Ubuntu
[09:22] <Stormx2> !sound > Sobieski
[09:23] <slacker> michaeljb2005: then you can add the windows share to your fstab, but don't know the syntax
[09:23] <Stormx2> !video > Sobieski
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <darkowl> Can I remove gnome,kde and all x and still have fb ?
[09:23] <xenocide> !keyboard > Xenocide
[09:23] <Stormx2> darkowl: What is fb?
[09:23] <soundray> michaeljb2005: try the instructions in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[09:23] <darkowl> frame buffer
[09:23] <soundray> (slacker ^^)
[09:23] <stefg> !ATI > Sobieski:
[09:23] <stefg> !ATI > Sobieski
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ATI - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <sirjohn> hello all. i am having problems with a sound blaster card - module no CT4170 anyone got any pointers ?
[09:24] <darkowl> !fglrx
[09:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:24] <stefg> !botsnack
[09:24] <ubotu> Yum!
[09:24] <Sobieski> thx
[09:24] <sirjohn> !sound blaster 16
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound blaster 16 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <soundray> darkowl: yes, you can, but there isn't much that you can do with just a frame buffer console
[09:24] <darkowl> soundray> i just need it to run links in graphic mode...
[09:24] <soundray> !sound >sirjohn
 how do i remove gnome,kde and all x ?
[09:25] <bruenig> Stormx, so if the exe is in drive_c/Program Files, I would do cd drive_c, then wine Program Files/whatever.exe, obviously spaces don't work but you get the idea?
[09:25] <darkowl> just remove it or i need to do something ?
[09:25] <soundray> darkowl: that should be okay -- but I don't think there's a fglrx frame buffer (could be wrong, though)
[09:25] <slacker> soundray: thnx, excelent link for sambashares :)
[09:25] <stiv2k> how do i get sound working with audigy2 cards?
[09:25] <hc^> eggdrop@square:~/eggdrop1.6.18$ ./configure
[09:25] <hc^> This is Eggdrop's GNU configure script.
[09:25] <hc^> It's going to run a bunch of tests to hopefully make your compile
[09:25] <soundray> darkowl: try running links on the console first (Ctrl-Alt-F1)
[09:25] <hc^> work without much twiddling.
[09:26] <hc^> checking for gcc... no
[09:26] <hc^> checking for cc... no
[09:26] <hc^> checking for cc... no
[09:26] <hc^> checking for cl... no
[09:26] <bruenig> !pastebin
[09:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:26] <hc^> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[09:26] <hc^> See `config.log' for more details.
[09:26] <hc^> how can i solve that?
[09:26] <bruenig> install gcc then install cc then install cl
[09:26] <Sacrafice> if anyone can help me with ubuntu live cd please pm me
[09:26] <bruenig> hc^, seriously though, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:26] <soundray> hc^: first of all, do *not* paste errors in here
[09:27] <farous> hc^: do you have build-essential installed
[09:27] <hc^> farous: no, i don't think so. i'm installing it now
[09:27] <farous> hc^: this will solve your prob
[09:27] <farous> !pastebin hc^
[09:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin hc^ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:28] <slacker> soundray: do you have prv messages enabled?
[09:28] <farous> !pastebin >  hc^
[09:28] <soundray> slacker: yes
[09:28] <slacker> k
[09:28] <balcomes> anyone know how to fix my video resolution problem when playing movies?
[09:28] <xenocide> Hey. Where is the "keyboard" shortcuts file stored? My Home/pgup/pgdown things arn't working since I wanted [ctrl] [alt] [home]  to play/pause music :(
[09:28] <stiv2k> how do i get sound working with audigy2 cards?
[09:28] <jatt> taking a look with gconf-editor I see I have keys for programs I don't have installed anymore. E.g. /apps/evolution/version. Is there a way to clean up this mess (automatically)?
[09:29] <Sacrafice> can anyone help me with ubuntu live cd???????////////////
[09:29] <shaya> anyone have an easy fix for the libnss problem w/ new firefox in edy?
[09:29] <shaya> edgy that is
[09:29] <hc^> thanks :)
[09:29] <balcomes> i have a widescreeen laptop and it messes with the video ratio of movies, even when they are not widescreen
[09:29] <farous> balcomes: you cn set that in totem
[09:29] <munsa> Hello can someone PLEASE help me I really jacked myself up.
[09:29] <Coffeegrinds> HA! got the Firefox Flash Fix worked out!
[09:29] <munsa> Please help, I was playing with trying to install xgl today and it crashed X. When I reboot I get this error message saying..
[09:29] <munsa> X window system version 7.0.0 ect...
[09:29] <munsa> then it says :
[09:29] <munsa> ==log file /var/log/Xorg.o.log
[09:29] <munsa> 
[09:29] <munsa> and
[09:29] <munsa> == useing file /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[09:29] <munsa> 
[09:29] <munsa> X server disabled Restart GDM when fixed or something.
[09:29] <munsa> 
[09:29] <munsa> Anyhow, I installed xgl with the irections in the forums and it made my graphics all wack so i un-installed it and backtracked changing all the things back to the way they were before but now I cant do anything I dont get gnome at all just that message and the CLI. Is there any way to re-install Gnome or X or whatever so I dont have to completely re-install Ubuntu (Daper) I have so much stuff on there it would kill me to have to re-install.
[09:29] <munsa> please help!
[09:30] <bruenig> !pastebin
[09:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:30] <soundray> slacker: did you pm me? Because I don't see anything
[09:30] <munsa> sorry
[09:30] <farous> balcomes: open totme view>aspect ratio
[09:30] <munsa> that wasnt supposed to come in one blast
[09:30] <mrbigstuff28> whats the other Windows Emulator?
[09:30] <bruenig> munsa, /join #ubuntu-xgl
[09:30] <bXi> yo
[09:30] <bruenig> I think that is right
[09:30] <bruenig> !xgl
[09:30] <slacker> soundray: yes, will pm you again
[09:30] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:30] <stiv2k> !audigy
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audigy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <bXi> installing fglrx is fucking up my xorg.conf
[09:30] <mrbigstuff28> afk
[09:30] <soundray> !language
[09:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:30] <bruenig> !info audigy
[09:30] <ubotu> Package audigy does not exist in dapper
[09:30] <Sacrafice> 1live cd
[09:30] <slacker> soundray: did you see it?
[09:30] <munsa> I dont need XGL help I need to know If I can re-install Gnome
[09:30] <Sacrafice> !liver
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about liver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
 it works
[09:31] <Sacrafice> !live cd
[09:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[09:31] <farous> munsa: you can reinstall the xserver. yet there might be better way ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:31] <Sacrafice> 1live cd help
[09:31] <Sacrafice> !live cd help
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about live cd help - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <bruenig> Sacrafice, what do you need
[09:31] <bXi> does one of you know what i can try to fix my xorg.conf?
[09:31] <balcomes> that doesnt fix anything, its as if it does everything relative to my physical widescreen ratio
[09:31] <bXi> in the logs it says that there are no suitable screens
[09:32] <Coffeegrinds> !botsnack
[09:32] <ubotu> Yum!
[09:32] <Sacrafice> i am trying to boot from ubuntu live cd and its not booting, i have burned it several times
[09:32] <nicooo> balcomes -> yes
[09:32] <bruenig> Sacrafice, did you burn it as an image?
[09:32] <Brownster> munsa, there is a way, you could try :http://www.cyberciti.biz/faqs/2006/06/ubuntu-linux-how-to-reconfigure-x.php
[09:32] <soundray> darkowl: okay, if you're sure you only need links, you can uninstall X and the desktop environments
[09:32] <Sacrafice> no
[09:32] <DamianFinol> Hey guys, ubuntu logs me off Gnome after a while of inactivity. Is this normal? and if so, how do I turn it off?
[09:32] <soundray> slacker, are you registered?
[09:32] <bruenig> Sacrafice, there is your problem
[09:32] <Sacrafice> i burned the image to the cd
[09:32] <Brownster> munsa, ymmv
[09:32] <slacker> soundray: no, just joined yesterday
[09:33] <bruenig> Sacrafice, if you burned it to the cd as data, that wont do anything, it needs to be burned as an image
[09:33] <soundray> !register >slacker
[09:33] <thenerdsangle> what is the trick for installing mysql 4.1 on dapper? i get an error whenever i try to install mysql-server-4.1
[09:33] <Coffeegrinds> If anyone is interested Fixed the Flash/Firefox sound problem alot of people were having earlier and it's easy as hell
[09:33] <sirjohn> soundray, cant get that to work
[09:33] <balcomes> the encoded video is 3:4 and my screen is widescreen, and no matter what i configure in totem, it squishes the video to widescreen
[09:33] <Sacrafice> yeah ok i miss understood you, yes i burned it to a cd not as data
[09:33] <balcomes> even when windowed
[09:33] <sirjohn> sb16
[09:33] <DamianFinol> Hey guys, ubuntu logs me off Gnome after a while of inactivity. Is this normal? and if so, how do I turn it off?
[09:33] <bruenig> Sacrafice, did you check the md5sum before you burned?
[09:33] <stiv2k> ok, so i have alsa (i think), gnome shows the little speaker icon w/ volume controls, and its set to use my audigy device for playback...yet i hear no sounds from my speakers when playing music...what gives?
[09:33] <Sacrafice> no i didn't
[09:33] <slacker> soundray: I've read the doc yesterday, it said something about if a user accepts unfiltered msg's it possible
[09:34] <Sacrafice> i didn't see any md5
[09:34] <drbreen> damianfinol: no it isnt ok and WHAT HAVE YOU DONE before ?
[09:34] <slacker> soundray: guess you don't allow unfiltered
[09:34] <bruenig> Sacrafice https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[09:34] <Sacrafice> ok thanx
[09:34] <DamianFinol> drbreen,  What do you mean what I've done before?
[09:34] <bXi> its nice how everybody ignores me :/
[09:35] <bruenig> what is your question
 and fb will stay ?
[09:35] <soundray> slacker: no, and I don't have an option to set unfiltered
[09:35] <chrn> ACTION is away: Auto-Away aps 20 minutos idle (since: 02:26:08) HH 4.3
[09:35] <bXi> my xorg.conf is broken somehow after trying to reinstall the fglxr module
[09:35] <Unguide1> anyone have time for a few newbie ques.
[09:35] <munsa> b
 what is wrong ?
[09:35] <munsa> bXi I think mine is broken too
[09:35] <soundray> darkowl: well, the console as you see it now after Ctrl-Alt-F1 will be unaffected. Beyond that, I won't make promises...
[09:35] <bruenig> bXi, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:36] <munsa> I cant get back into gnome
[09:36] <Coffeegrinds> Unguidel just ask
[09:36] <Bassetts> how can i connect to xfire?
[09:36] <unrisentruth> finally got here.. hey guys.. i am tryin to write to ntfs using ubuntu (installed on hd).. i can mount and read but cannot write... i get a read only file system error when tryin to change perms in chmod.. can any1 help me get ntfs write capabilities in ubuntu??
 ok ill try...how do I remove gnome,kde... ?
[09:36] <stiv2k> ok, so i have alsa (i think), gnome shows the little speaker icon w/ volume controls, and its set to use my audigy device for playback...yet i hear no sounds from my speakers when playing music...what gives?
[09:36] <bXi> bruenig: that works but now i dont have hardware acceleration
[09:36] <bXi> (which was working on an older kernel)
[09:36] <munsa> bruenig will it delete my files? All the things i install my desktop items ect??
[09:36] <soundray> darkowl: Remove a central library that X depends on...
 do you have the codecs ?
[09:36] <bXi> munsa: no it wont
[09:36] <unfun> How do I disable PV6 ??? A guide for the ultimate noob please.
[09:37] <bruenig> munsa, all it does is configure xorg.conf
[09:37] <gdb> darkowl: What are you wanting to accomplish?
 and that will be... ?
[09:37] <stiv2k> darkowl: i dont know, this is a fresh install of 6.06 and easyubuntu
[09:37] <freddie42> when I mount a remote server using Places|Connect to Server, what folder do they get mounted in?
[09:37] <Jivenix> yay look at me
[09:37] <munsa> gdb
[09:37] <munsa> i was playing with xgl today
[09:37] <munsa> and
[09:37] <gdb> darkowl: (Don't do what soundray suggested, btw)
[09:37] <drbreen> damianfinol: i meant have you MODIFIED YOUR SYSTEM ?
[09:37] <gdb> munsa: howdy!
[09:37] <munsa> it destoryed my install
[09:37] <herbal> unrisentruth: i dont think you can write to the NTFS, but in windows u can install a driver to read your EXT2
[09:37] <bruenig> bXi, your choice then, acceleration or a properly working xorg.conf
 i want to remove all x (gnome,kde...) but have fb
[09:37] <soundray> gdb: are you going to elaborate?
[09:37] <munsa> gdb now i dont have any gui
[09:37] <thenerdsangle> i have a fresh install of dapper and i get an error when i try to apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 (error is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20468)
[09:37] <bXi> bruenig: thing is
[09:37] <bXi> it was working before i tried to boot a k7 kernel
[09:37] <Coffeegrinds> herbal: I have a 120 GB usb drive formatted in NTFS / no issues
[09:37] <drbreen> unrisentruth: there are several possibilities to write on ntfs - i'd reccomend a shared fat partition, though
[09:38] <bruenig> bXi, go back to that kernel
[09:38] <Coffeegrinds> I had to destroy all data to do ith though :P
[09:38] <bruenig> !info xfireworks
[09:38] <ubotu> xfireworks: Fireworks in your root window. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-4 (dapper), package size 42 kB, installed size 212 kB
[09:38] <herbal> really? i cant write to my NTFS partition
[09:38] <gdb> soundray: Yes, willy nilly removing a library in the hopes that it will clean up X properly is bad Joojoo(tm).  I'd like some more information on what he's trying to accomplish because regardless of what he's trying to do, "just remove a core library" is never the right option.
[09:38] <unrisentruth> drbreen: can u help me write to ntfs from linux? ubuntu?
[09:38] <bXi> it probably wont do any good but i'll try
[09:38] <meeko> How do I set it up so I start my computer in the console instead of gnome?
 i want to remove all x (gnome,kde...) but have fb...how do i do that ?
[09:38] <munsa> i chjanged my NTFS to FAT and now they work fine with ubuntu
[09:38] <DamianFinol> Hey guys, I'm running an nvidia card, the nvidia module is loaded, but when anything uses GLX (or 3D) is run, the xserver crashes and takes me back to ubuntu login. Any ideas?
[09:38] <gdb> munsa: Gah!
[09:38] <drbreen> !NTFS
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about NTFS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <gdb> darkowl: kk, one sec, let me do some research
[09:38] <Coffeegrinds> herbal, i had to MAke the partion in linux which allowed write access, the formatted the drive uin windows to ntfs,
 OK
[09:39] <Jivenix> ok so i'm in linux, now what
[09:39] <farous> !ntfs > drbreen
[09:39] <drbreen> unrisentruth: maybe, wait a sec. ah, and why would you want that ?
[09:39] <Coffeegrinds> herbal, i think the reson it worked is because of the original partitioning was done giving user access to the partition, the formatting didn't matter
[09:39] <Sobieski> how do i know if i have "linux-image-amd64-k8" or any else
[09:39] <unrisentruth> to be able to write to files in ntfs partitions.. whether to fix to the computer change something from linux.. etc..
[09:39] <yoshiznit123> unrisentruth: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[09:39] <herbal> ah i just grab the files from the ext2 when in windows, only keep it for games that cedega wont play
[09:39] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: dpkg --list | grep "linux-image-amd64-k8"
 ?
[09:39] <drbreen> !fuse > unrisentruth
[09:40] <stiv2k> darkowl: i do have the codecs
[09:40] <meeko> How do I set it up so I start my computer in the console instead of gnome?
[09:40] <jatt> freddie42: I think they are not mounted as with the mount utility, but internally using the gnome virtual filesystem. You don't see the mounted volumes with df
[09:40] <rockzman> does anyone know how can i just stop my ubuntu X session so i can edit my system?
[09:40] <bruenig> meeko, you could uninstall gdm
[09:40] <Coffeegrinds> yeah it was a weird fix but at the time i only had about 200mb of data written to the drive
[09:40] <farous> Sobieski: if you want which kernel currently running type uname -a
[09:40] <freddie42> jatt: thx
[09:40] <gdb> darkowl: so basically you want to end up with a system where ubuntu-standard is installed, but nothing beyond that?  Do a "dpkg -s ubuntu-standard" and see if that describes the end state you're trying to get to.
[09:40] <jatt> freddie42: if there is a way to access those mounted volumes through the console I would also be interested in a knowing it.
[09:40] <bruenig> but that will only start you with a terminal login, which would then start you into gnome
[09:40] <slacker_nl> rockzman: ctrl alt F1 will give you a console
[09:41] <soundray> meeko: disable gdm (sudo update-rc gdm remove)
 what is ubuntu standard ?
[09:41] <rockzman> slacker_nl: but it will still be running aswell gdm is running right?
[09:41] <stiv2k> ok, so i have alsa (i think), gnome shows the little speaker icon w/ volume controls, and its set to use my audigy device for playback...yet i hear no sounds from my speakers when playing music...what gives?
[09:41] <slacker_nl> rockzman: yes, but that you can kill
[09:41] <slacker_nl> rockzman: pkill gdm
[09:41] <rockzman> slacker_nl: thank
[09:41] <rockzman> you
[09:41] <gdb> darkowl: like I said, do "dpkg -s ubuntu-standard" -- it's a meta-package that provides a text-only system.  Installing ubuntu-desktop on top of it then gives you the GUI.
[09:41] <slacker_nl> shut down your session first if you want to be sure that you don't break everything
[09:41] <sirjohn> soundray, any othe rpointers ?
[09:42] <unrisentruth> yoshiznit123: thanks man im going to give that a try
[09:42] <herbal> Coffeegrinds: is there a way to make my USB keyboard work when booting with grub?
[09:42] <gdb> darkowl: the dpkg -s means "show me information about" -- you'll see a blurb there.  Does he describe what you're trying to get to?
[09:42] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: im a newbie, what do I do with dpkg --list | grep "linux-image-amd64-k8"
[09:42] <darkowl> gdb OK...ill try it,tnx
[09:42] <soundray> sirjohn: please describe the problem
[09:42] <Coffeegrinds> herbal, I've never had a problem with that.
[09:42] <gdb> darkowl: That command won't actually do anything other than display information.
[09:42] <freddie42> jatt: if I find one (verily unlikely!) I'll let you know
[09:42] <Coffeegrinds> herbal, then again my PC's Bios has an option for usb keyboard
[09:42] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: that's the command line command to see if you got something installed
[09:42] <sirjohn> ok i have a sound blaster ct4170 and have been tring to get it to work under dapper drake for about 3 hours now. have used up most google knolage on the problem
[09:43] <yoshiznit123> unrisentruth: make sure you back everything up though
 yes thats it...i hoe it has fb...
[09:43] <Sobieski> so what do i input to see it
[09:43] <Allen> hey my installation only works inrecovory mode
[09:43] <herbal> Coffeegrinds: mine doesent, i have to use a normal keyboard port one to select which to boot, and my windows is 2k so when it boots only the old one not the usb will work lol
[09:43] <sirjohn> that link that you send me dosent seam to want to work for me either
 yes thats it...i hope it has fb...
[09:43] <Phoul> anyone use xterm here
[09:43] <gdb> darkowl: Ok, hang on a sec.
[09:43] <sirjohn> i get  a modifno command not found
[09:43] <jatt> Phoul: just ask
[09:43] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: the command I gave you: dpkg --list | grep "linux-image-amd64-k8"
[09:43] <yoshiznit123> phoul, yup, why?
[09:43] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: open a terminal
[09:43] <Phoul> does anyone know the which switch is the one to set the background colour
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> !info hot-babe
[09:43] <ubotu> Package hot-babe does not exist in dapper
[09:43] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: and enter that dpkg line
[09:44] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: i have it open here
[09:44] <sirjohn> and  aplay --list-devices gets aplay: device_list:221: no soundcard found
[09:44] <yoshiznit123> phoul: -bg
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> Egads! the Humanity!
[09:44] <gdb> darkowl: Have you installed any other software along the lines of kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop?  Or are you running just the default GNOME UI currently?
[09:44] <soundray> sirjohn: what are you entering that gives you that error message
[09:44] <croak77> stiv2k: open a terminal and run alsamixer, make sure everything is un-muted, also make your sure your speakers are plugged in right
[09:44] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: and now copy paste that line
[09:44] <Coffeegrinds> herbal, shazbutty! then again you could probalbly hack apart some old ps2 keyboard and jimmy-rig up some DDR style swich that would just make boot time that much more fun
[09:44] <darkowl> gdb running gnome
[09:44] <Phoul> yoshiznit123, what kinda charecters does it use to specify it?
[09:44] <Phoul> Like uhh
[09:44] <eegore> Yes i do and it seems to be giving the error at the printer, must have just run out of ink
[09:44] <stiv2k> croak77: ok
[09:44] <Sobieski> slacker_nl:it just skips to a new line
[09:44] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: if you haven't installed it, its not visible
[09:44] <unrisentruth> yoshiznit123: ok i will thanks again
[09:44] <gdb> soundray: I'd like to apologize, I'm not trying to call you out.  Perhaps I'm more conservative and I'm fearful that that advice would lead to Bad Things(tm).  Again, I don't mean to personally offend you.
[09:44] <herbal> Coffeegrinds: yea that would be cool lol
[09:44] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: that tells me you don't have it installed
[09:44] <sirjohn> soundray,  modinfo and aplay
[09:44] <yoshiznit123> phoul, -bg black, -bg white, or standard X colors
[09:44] <jatt> Phoul: you can also take a look at the xtermset command. It allows you to test different color configurations very easily (xtermset package).
[09:45] <neutrinomass> Is there any way to know whether a hard disk is failing when it doesn't support S.M.A.R.T. ?
[09:45] <stiv2k> croak77: i unmuted all this stuff, but some of the things are at 0 volume, but i don't know what they are
[09:45] <soundray> gdb: okay, no offence taken. In my experience, Ubuntu takes that kind of abuse (Joojoo to use your term) very well.
[09:45] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: ok, which one should i install, generic, k8 or-23 or -25
[09:45] <gdb> soundray: :-D
[09:45] <Hexidigital_> stiv2k::  did you run alsamixer in terminal?
[09:46] <Dr_Willis> Coffeegrinds,  heh - mine is still working
[09:46] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: that I don't know
[09:46] <stiv2k> Hexidigital_: yes
[09:46] <gdb> soundray: It could very well be that "apt-get --purge remove xserver-common" will remove everything necessary.
[09:46] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: is there a way to find out?
[09:46] <croak77> stiv2k: mess around with them a bit, increase each one to see which is the master volume
[09:46] <gdb> er x11-common
[09:46] <hc^> hei, help me quick!
[09:46] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: i'm sure there is a way, but I don't know
[09:46] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: i have the box for the CPU if it helps?
[09:47] <soundray> gdb: yes, I was going to suggest something like that to darkowl
[09:47] <darkowl> gdb: why ?
[09:47] <hc^> i created a user. but it has access to all the other folders on the machine
[09:47] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: lets give it a shot, google will help us :)
[09:47] <Coffeegrinds> Dr_willis: yeah, the problem is that when FF upgraded it broke all sound associations, easy but wierd fix though
[09:47] <hc^> it can't delete, but it has access
[09:47] <herbal> Coffeegrinds: for some reason ubuntu hates my monitor too i cant run in the native resolution everything is like streched and off
[09:47] <neutrinomass> It's either my hard disk failing, or a very rare bug in the kernel :(
[09:47] <hc^> how can i stop/prevent that?
[09:47] <soundray> sirjohn: first, install the package modutils and see if that fixes the modinfo problem
[09:47] <gdb> darkowl: Why what?
[09:47] <yoshiznit123> hc^, change the groups he's in
[09:48] <hc^> k, thanks yoshiznit123
[09:48] <gdb> soundray: In looking at what removing x11-common depends on, I fear that removing it may remove too much.
 how do i start ubuntu-standard ?
[09:48] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: i tried googling, but damn im having trouble decoding linux users talk
[09:48] <Sobieski> :)
[09:48] <Coffeegrinds> herbal, you can check refresh rates i had an old IBM monitor taht would get all squiggly when running at a normal 60hz,
[09:48] <gdb> Is anyone here running a server installation (without GUI) currently?  Can you verify if x11-common is installed on your machine?
[09:48] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: i'm used to it :)
[09:49] <slacker_nl> gimme some info on your cpu and let me search the web
[09:49] <hc^> wtf? i can't start Users and groups in gnome
[09:49] <Flannel> gdb: that have to be the special server iso? or can alternate work?
[09:49] <Moosebuntu> where can I get online help with Apache2 ?
[09:49] <gdb> darkowl: It's already installed.  It's a meta package.  I'm trying to determine which base package is installed beyond a plain server installation so we can roll you back to that point, and not before it.  We don't want to remove too much software, just the GUI.
[09:49] <sirjohn> soundray,  now says moduel not found
[09:49] <herbal> Coffeegrinds: i set it to 1440x900 60hz (which is the what its supposed to be) and its all streched i edited my xorg to go to that rez but it doesent work right
[09:49] <sgcplayer> how do I get icons for partitions on my desktop?
[09:49] <TheOgrE> Is there a graphical grub manager available in Dapper?  I found one link which seemed to imply that there wasn't, but wanted to make sure...
[09:49] <Flannel> Moosebuntu: #apache is a good place for help, and here, about the ubuntu specific stuff
[09:49] <gdb> Flannel: Ah, if you don't install the GUI on the alternative CD, I think that's good enough for gov't work. ;-)
[09:49] <Moosebuntu> Flannel> is it on this server?
[09:50] <dillbertdabomb> umm
[09:50] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: AMD 64 3700+ w/ Hyper Transport technology
[09:50] <hc^> 'The configuration could not be loaded. there was an error running the backend script'
[09:50] <Moosebuntu> Flannel> --- Apache :That channel doesn't exist
 OK...when will you know it ?
[09:50] <hc^> wtf+
[09:50] <soundray> sirjohn: what's the module name that you are entering?
[09:50] <gdb> darkowl: Hopefully in a few minutes. ;-)
 OK
[09:50] <bthornton> The system clock on my Ubuntu box is running fast and I can't quite figure out why--I can sync it with NTP but it will advance like 10 minutes in just a matter of days.  Sound like a hardware issue?
[09:50] <Flannel> Moosebuntu: irc channels need pounds infront of them: /join #apache
[09:50] <Moosebuntu> Flannel> Whoops.. I forgot the #
[09:50] <herbal> sgcplayer: if its mounted i belive it puts on icon on your desktop
[09:50] <Moosebuntu> sorry!  Thans!
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> or ##linux
[09:50] <Coffeegrinds> herbal, well to be honest I'm not that keen at widescreen resolutions.
[09:50] <hc^> 'The configuration could not be loaded. there was an error running the backend script' <-- when i tried to run Users and Groups. how can i solve that?
 can i run it and then download packages needed for fb ?
[09:51] <gdb> it looks like x11-common should not be removed.
[09:51] <herbal> Coffeegrinds: yea i got it for gaming and its nice, but doesent seem compatible
[09:51] <bobbycheetah> I have a new install of Ubuntu 6.06 LTS.  When I try to use Rhythmbox Music Player, it trys to start, but then disappears.  Is this a know problem?  I'm trying to simply play my CD.  XMMS says it's playing my CD, and I know the cd player itself is working.   I can play mp3's ok, so I know my sound is working.
[09:51] <DanHowell> help: although I can browse perfectly well, irssi isn't looking irc.foo.bar addresses up
[09:51] <soundray> gdb: looking at the reverse-depends list of x11-common, I can't see anything essential for a non-X system.
[09:51] <yoshiznit123> sgcplayer, try gconf-editor, going to apps/nautilus/desktop and changing which icons you want on your desktop
[09:51] <DanHowell> help: This is after a new install of 6.06 LTS
[09:51] <MetaMorfoziS> is there anway to get to know how many mb-s using the system?
[09:51] <MetaMorfoziS> from the memory
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> the real value, not the lying ps aux or top
[09:52] <sgcplayer> herbal, I mount it automatically at boot, but don't see it on desktop
[09:52] <Sobieski> i feel so out of place, most words here are jibberish to me :P
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> !info woman
[09:52] <ubotu> Package woman does not exist in dapper
[09:52] <soundray> MetaMorfoziS: try 'free'
[09:52] <hc^> 'The configuration could not be loaded. there was an error running the backend script' <-- when i tried to run Users and Groups. how can i solve that?
[09:52] <gdb> soundray: You know, you're right.  I was looking at depends.  However, running apt-get --purge remove -s x11-common also removes acpi-support  - I'm not sure how critical that is.
[09:52] <sharkito> hi i'm trying to install ubuntu in some celeron 500 MHZ machines but i cant
[09:52] <sharkito> it stops and dont continue
[09:52] <sgcplayer> yoshiznit123, I'll try that
[09:52] <gdb> soundray: I suppose it's worth a shot, though.  What do you think?
[09:52] <sharkito> i have tried some cd drivers and cd's
[09:52] <herbal> sgcplayer: Does it show up in Places?
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> 6752?! i have 6mbs of free memory?
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> :DDD
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm said about the "liers" ^^
[09:53] <DanHowell> Just installed Ubuntu 6.06. Although I can browse perfectly well, irssi isn't looking irc.foo.bar addresses up
[09:53] <MetaMorfoziS> so the real memory usaging
[09:53] <sgcplayer> herbal, no
[09:53] <herbal> hmm
[09:53] <dillbertdabomb> how do you get easy ubuntu to work with out internet
[09:53] <hc^> dillbertdabomb: wireless?
[09:54] <sgcplayer> I followed one of the FAQ's about editing the fstab file, but no icon
[09:54] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: try the generic one
[09:54] <croak77> DanHowell: you mean internet works but not irssi?
[09:54] <Pntkl> hello
[09:54] <slon`> sup?
[09:54] <slon`> I'll soon find out
[09:54] <Pntkl> ok
[09:54] <gdb> darkowl: Ok, there are a couple of things you need to do.  First is cross yourself, then say a Hail Mary prayer, then run "apt-get --purge remove x11-common".  This may or may not break your machine, but I'm of the opinion that it will not.
[09:54] <askjf> !VNC
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about VNC - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <bruenig> !vnc
[09:54] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[09:54] <askjf> !vnc
[09:54] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[09:54] <gdb> It should remove somewhere above 388 packages.
[09:54] <roostishaw> anyone, why, when i try to log into an xgl session, do i get "Your session has lasted less than 10 seconds... Fatal server error: No screens found..."
[09:54] <fortr> when i try to boot from the newest livecd, i get: "Buffer I/O error on device dm-0, logical block 6314624" ... can someone help?
[09:54] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: what can happen if its the wrong one
[09:54] <soundray> gdb: I can't see how acpi-support depends on it. I wouldn't remove that. I think the library approach is better
[09:54] <DanHowell> croak: irssi is working ok, but it's not translating the addresses from irc.foo.bar to 123.4.5.6
[09:54] <`> hi i just installed ubunto on one of my computer but im stuf in cmd how do i get to the desktop system?
 OK...ill tell you later what happened...
[09:54] <gdb> darkowl: hold on
[09:55] <bruenig> roostishaw, that is all it said, was no screens found?
[09:55] <gdb> soundray: Well, it's support for closing the lid on a laptop.  and apparently depends on x11-common
[09:55] <sqql> hi i just installed ubunto on one of my computer but im stuf in cmd how do i get to the desktop system?
 not run it yet ?
[09:55] <DanHowell> I had to ping freenode to get the address
[09:55] <gdb> darkowl: don't run it yet
[09:55] <sqql> ftuck*
 ok...
[09:55] <sqql> stuck*
[09:55] <dillbertdabomb> hc^ no
[09:55] <stefg> !xgl > roostishaw:
[09:55] <dillbertdabomb> just no internet
[09:55] <omong_kosong> !seen sri
[09:55] <ubotu> sri is on IRC right now!
[09:55] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: its generic and should work with every 64bit proc from what I understand
[09:56] <philipsmith> how do I find out what the IP address is for my machine?
[09:56] <roostishaw> bruenig, well, it was in a little diolouge box that appeared, i clicked ok, then it logged me out... so i can remember the rest of the error...
[09:56] <sqql> go to
[09:56] <slacker_nl> someone present which has more 64 bit experience?
[09:56] <roostishaw> !xgl > roostishaw
[09:56] <sqql> http://whatismyip.com
[09:56] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: roger that
[09:56] <slacker_nl> I want to verify something
[09:56] <fortr> when i try to boot from the newest livecd, i get: "Buffer I/O error on device dm-0, logical block 6314624" ... can someone help?
 startx or if that doesnt work youll have to configure something... run sudo dpkg-reconfigre xserver-xorg
[09:56] <bruenig> roostishaw, well it would be nice to have the rest of the error
[09:56] <croak77> DanHowell: so /connect irc.freenode.net didn't work?
[09:56] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: hold on, lets double check first. I'm sure it won't affect your PC, but better safe then sorry
[09:56] <sqql> hi i just installed ubunuo on one of my computers but im stuck in cmd how do i get to the desktop system?
[09:57] <Stormx2> Folks, what SSL libraries do I need to compile GAIM? I've installed most of them I can find...
[09:57] <DanHowell> croak: no, it didn't. It tried to connect to 1.0.0.0
[09:57] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: ok
[09:57] <orasis1> When I want to un-install software do i => sudo apt "proggie name" uninstall ?
[09:57] <dg> anyone know if old builds of .debs are archived anywhere? I want to try an older version to see if it has a bug
[09:57] <sqql> ........
[09:57] <sirjohn> soundray,  sb16
[09:57] <bruenig> orasis1, sudo apt-get remove package
 why not run sudo apt-get install gaim
[09:57] <sqql> help please
[09:57] <bruenig> darkowl, probably wants beta
[09:57] <soundray> sirjohn: have you done a 'sudo modprobe sb16'?
[09:57] <orasis1> And in Ubuntu is there any sort of "add/remove" programs list I can see similar to windows?, heh I have installed so much stuff.. I forget everything I installed
[09:58] <Flannel> orasis1: Synaptic
[09:58] <bruenig> orasis, Applications>Add/Remove Programs,
[09:58] <orasis1> brue. Alright thanks
[09:58] <philipsmith> Hi. How do I find the IP address of my machine?
[09:58] <sirjohn> john@tank:~$ sudo modprobe sb16
[09:58] <sirjohn> FATAL: Module sb16 not found.
[09:58] <sirjohn> 
[09:58] <stefg> sqql: so you got a 'blue screen' and an error-message like no screens found?
[09:58] <orasis1> Flannel, yeah so besides Synaptic no right?
[09:58] <sqql> no it like in stuck in shell
[09:58] <herbal> philipsmith: www.whatismyip.com
[09:58] <soundray> sirjohn: is this an ISA card?
[09:58] <Stormx2> darkowl: Because I want beta 3.
[09:58] <sqql> im stuck in shell
[09:58] <garryF> Hi folks. I note that a week ago the next version 6.06.1 of dapper was released. After a week it seems to be apparrent that the only way to get it is to format and resinstall dapper from the ISO. No updates have become available. So what do you folks think. Is it time to reformat and reinstall or rebel and say no?
[09:58] <gdb> soundray: What do you think of this, remove x11-core and then reinstall acpi-support?  "apt-get --purge remove x11-common && apt-get install acpi-support"?
[09:58] <fortr> http://www.rubyonrails.org/index.php
[09:58] <jeff_> philipsmith: type 'ifconfig' in a terminal
[09:58] <stefg> sqql: tell about yout hardware
[09:59] <bruenig> orasis1, Add/Remove Programs is stupid though, its best to go with the terminal
[09:59] <orasis1> SirJohn, are you sure your Irq's ports etc, are at default settings?
[09:59] <sirjohn> soundray,  yeh
[09:59] <Flannel> orasis1: there are other frontends, aptitude, Adept if youre on KDE, etc
[09:59] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: what kind of AMD is it?
http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#q2
[09:59] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: k8 supports: Supports AMD Athlon/Athlon64/AthlonFX/Opteron processors.
[09:59] <sqql> i dont know i stole i mean barrowed the server from my dads company
[09:59] <orasis1> Brue, Yeah but since one does not exist - I think it would be a good project for me to work on :) - I just did not want to encroach on someone elses space heh.
[09:59] <philipsmith> Jeff: ipconfig didn't work (it works for dos and window systems). thanks.
[09:59] <Lattyware> I'm having a problem, when I do 'sudo gedit <path>' it will not run, as where 'gedit <path>' does. I had been doing this as usual, but one boot ago I had this problem, and a reboot did nothing.
[09:59] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: AMD Athlon 64 Processor
[09:59] <herbal> philipsmith: ifconfig no ip :P
[09:59] <sirjohn> soundray,  its not showing up on lspci either :(
[10:00] <orasis1> Flannel, I am on Xubuntu.. don't like KDE anymore :(
[10:00] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: ill try k8 then
[10:00] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: ok, install both generic and k8
[10:00] <slacker_nl> first generic and then k8
[10:00] <bruenig> lattyware, try gkusdo, not that that should matter but just try it
[10:00] <darkowl> brb
[10:00] <soundray> sirjohn: it won't if it's ISA. The module you need is called snd-sb-common
[10:00] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: both?
[10:00] <slacker_nl> yes
[10:00] <gdb> soundray: I'm thinking that would be the way to go.
[10:00] <Flannel> orasis1: alright, then whatever package manager Xubuntu uses, although I think it's synaptic.
[10:00] <majorMatarrese> do you have to use SMB to connect to a mac?
[10:00] <Sobieski> slacker_nl:  how come
[10:00] <gdb> soundray: remove x11-common and then reinstall acpi-support
[10:00] <jeff_> philipsmith: on linux it's 'ifconfig' as in interface configuration
[10:00] <santa99> !ntfs-3g
[10:00] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[10:00] <sgcplayer> yoshiznit123, the only thing in that "folder" that looks close is "volumes_visible" and it has a box that's already checked
[10:00] <orasis1> Flannel, yes it is
[10:00] <Flannel> orasis1: or, you can use aptitude, which is installed everywhere
[10:00] <sqql>  ubuntu starts fine but there is no gui system i can login but kde or that kind off stuff wont start im stuck in shell
[10:00] <soundray> gdb: it's not what I would do if it was my system. Give me two ticks...
[10:00] <omong_kosong> !unionfs
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unionfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <Flannel> sqql: which ISO did you install?
[10:01] <bruenig> sqql, when you get to the command line do 'startx'
[10:01] <khermans> what is the file in /etc that shows the Ubuntu release info?
[10:01] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: and if i mark them both, wont they install at the same time
[10:01] <Lattyware> bruenig: (gedit:11160): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[10:01] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: thats what I've read on google
[10:01] <Lattyware> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. Is all I got.
[10:01] <philipsmith> jeff: my applogies. You are correct!
[10:01] <bruenig> Lattyware, but did it work?
[10:01] <sqql> let me try startx
[10:01] <Lattyware> nope
[10:01] <bruenig> odd
[10:01] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: and it makes sense, the generic supports every 64 bit proc, and the k8 is for specific cards
[10:01] <bruenig> what about just sudo gedit
[10:01] <bruenig> no path
[10:01] <Flannel> bruenig: gksudo gedit
[10:01] <bruenig> sudo doesn't hurt it
[10:02] <Lattyware> bruenig: nothing.
[10:02] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: if in doubt confirm it on the forum
[10:02] <garryF> Hi folks. I note that a week ago the next version 6.06.1 of dapper was released. After a week it seems to be apparrent that the only way to get it is to format and resinstall dapper from the ISO. No updates have become available. So what do you folks think. Is it time to reformat and reinstall? I'm inclined to ignore it thinking that if it isn't worth putting on the repositories, it must not be worth the trouble.
[10:02] <Flannel> bruenig: gksudo gedit
[10:02] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: should I just mark both, then press that install/whatever button
[10:02] <bruenig> sudo doesn't hurt it
[10:02] <Flannel> garryF: if you already hvae dapper installed, normal updates are all you need.
[10:02] <gdb> garryF: 6.06.1 is simply 6.06 with all the current updates already applied.
[10:02] <soundray> gdb: I think I would remove libx11-6
[10:02] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: yes, that should do it
[10:02] <orasis1> alright sudo apt-get remove package <-- correct?, ooo I think I know how I broke my Xfwm now hehe
[10:02] <Lattyware> Well, it's obviously a problem with sudo, as without it works, with it fails.
[10:02] <Flannel> bruenig: don't tell people to use sudo for graphical packages.  Yes, it does hurt it.
[10:02] <gdb> soundray: Yes, it does.  Does that present a problem?
[10:02] <bruenig> garryF, yeah I think it is there so that when you did fresh install if you want to you don't have 190+ MB of updates to DL
[10:03] <garryF> Thanks Flannel , gdb, bruenig . I figured that was a possiblity
[10:03] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: allright, thx alot, ill do that. though the generic box is green for some reason
[10:03] <orasis1> Flannel: bruenig: don't tell people to use sudo for graphical packages.  Yes, it does hurt it. <--- Why??
[10:03] <bruenig> Flannel, not gedit, some graphical packages and as a practice gksudo for graphical practices but gedit is not affected
[10:03] <soundray> gdb: sorry?
[10:03] <link_> The EasyUbuntu server appears to be down. Anyone know where else I can find easyubuntu-3.022.tar.gz?
[10:03] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: green?
[10:03] <gdb> soundray: It does remove libx11-6, does that cause a problem for a system that does not have X installed?
[10:03] <gdb> soundray: Ah, it will end up removing python.
[10:04] <orasis1> Why should you not start graphical apps with console sudo?
[10:04] <garryF> What about boa?
[10:04] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: yes, it seems its already installed, but there is another generic thats not
[10:04] <Flannel> bruenig: right, but it's best practice to just get people in the practice of ALWAYS using gksudo for graphical packages.  It's best practices.
[10:04] <Flannel> orasis1: because it can screw up permissions sometimes
[10:04] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: which one is not installed?
[10:04] <bruenig> Flannel, true, although sometimes with gedit they get freaked by the phantom error message
[10:04] <woodwizzle> Is it possible to do an inverse find. Like say I want to find everything that ISN'T an mp3 in my music folder?
[10:04] <jatt`> e
[10:05] <Sobieski> slacker_nl:  2.6.15-25
[10:05] <sirjohn> soundray, apt-get cannot find snd-sb-common
[10:05] <slacker_nl> woodwizzle: find $PATH ! -name \*.mp3
[10:05] <orasis1> I see... I see, cause I had like a complete system break down yesterday, slowly I am starting to understand why - one of the reasons may be that, I was always starting X programs with sudo console
[10:05] <GTX> How do I install mtr? when I use apt-get it wants to uninstall ubuntu-base
[10:05] <slacker_nl> woodwizzle: where $PATH is the path you want to search in
[10:05] <woodwizzle> slacker_nl, thanks
[10:05] <gdb> soundray: So which X lib do you suggest removing? ;-)
[10:05] <Flannel> bruenig: if you voulenteer to assist everyone with bad homedirs from sudo, then go ahead and continue to tell them that
 cant i do that what you think and then apt-get install python ?
[10:05] <soundray> woodwizzle: 'ls -R | grep -v .[Mm] [Pp] 3$'
[10:06] <garryF> I've always thought there ought to be a find with exceptions, where I might want to find X unless it is followed by YZ
[10:06] <gdb> darkowl: It's most of the python subsystem that gets removed, but not all of it.
[10:06] <bruenig> I did actually tell him gksudo if you scroll up but then when I was trying to see if gedit path wasn't working or if gedit itself wasn't working i said sudo but yeah, I generally do say gksudo
[10:06] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: thats is the 32 bit kernel image
[10:06] <soundray> gdb: That's trouble. I don't know...
[10:06] <tjb13> guys where is the mkdev.sh for lmsensors
 cant i get them back somehow ?
[10:06] <tjb13> it says in the src dir
[10:07] <tjb13> but i duno where that is
[10:07] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: so.. what does that mean? :P
[10:07] <soundray> darkowl: whichever of the paths so far suggested is *very* unlikely to make your system unusable.
[10:07] <gdb> soundray: And just removing xserver-xorg doesn't remove enough software. hrm
[10:07] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: that is not the image you need
[10:07] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: i mean, what actions should i take
[10:07] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: you have 64 bit and its for 32 bit
[10:07] <stiv2k> how come i don't have a multimedia systems selector in my system > preferences ?
[10:07] <soundray> darkowl: is it mainly that you want to regain the hard disk space?
[10:07] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: don't install that one
[10:07] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: install the generic and the k8
[10:07] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: the -25 one?
[10:08] <mrbigstuff28> i need some help her
[10:08] <soundray> sirjohn: 'sudo modprobe snd-sb-common'
[10:08] <gdb> Does someone here have a default SERVER installation?
[10:08] <traviss> how the hell do i disable the shift + del quickkey
[10:08] <gdb> And if so, can you pastebin the output of dpkg --get-selections on that system?
[10:08] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: no, the 64 bit : linux-image-amd64 -generic and -k8
 yes i dont want to use x so its just using space...
[10:08] <sirjohn> soundray,  nothing happens
[10:08] <mrbigstuff28> i got a new Vcard a Nvidia Geforce MX 4400 PCI card can i just put it in and start useing it?
[10:09] <soundray> sirjohn: that's a good sign. Do a 'lsmod | grep snd-sb-common'
[10:09] <mrbigstuff28> well not new just got it from some1
[10:09] <Shinzetsu> I have to switch cd's during an install, but I cant open my cd drive?
[10:09] <fortr> when i try to boot from the newest livecd, i get: "Buffer I/O error on device dm-0, logical block 6314624"
[10:09] <rockzman> Can anyone tell me how can I activate my direct rendering: No
[10:09] <moparfan90> hello. i have a 6 channel sound card with the speakers set up right. when i play a mp3 i dont hear anything from center, sub, and both rear. how can i fix this
[10:09] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: there are generic -23 and -25 and k8 -23 and -25
[10:09] <soundray> sirjohn: or try the earlier aplay command that didn't work
[10:09] <rockzman> I use nVidia gforce fx 5200
[10:09] <Flannel> Shinzetsu: switch CDs during install?  why?
[10:10] <sirjohn> soundray,  nothing shows up again
[10:10] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: no mention of 32 there
[10:10] <mrbigstuff28> but i can i put this card in and it will work?>
[10:10] <soundray> sirjohn: what do you get from the aplay command?
[10:10] <traviss> how the hell do i disable the shift + del quickkey
[10:10] <Shinzetsu> Flannel: game install in Cedega, normally GNOME auto umounts when I press the physical eject button
[10:10] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: ahh - try apt-cache search linux-image-amd
[10:10] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: and check the description
[10:10] <TheBaron> anyone have any idea why evdev would be failing on a relatively normal Xorg config?
[10:10] <sirjohn> soundray,  aplay: device_list:221: no soundcards found...
[10:10] <Sobieski> slacker_nl:  not really following you ther?
[10:11] <Flannel> gdb: x11-common is on the server ISO.  so, it is a possibility: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-server-i386.list
[10:11] <mrbigstuff28> rockman can i just this card in and use it other then the onbored video port
[10:11] <traviss> how the hell do i disable the shift + del quickkey
[10:11] <stiv2k> how come i don't have a multimedia systems selector in my system > preferences ?
[10:11] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: ok.. apt-cache search package will describe which packages you can install and will give you a shot description
[10:11] <Shinzetsu> Flannel: what can I do?
[10:12] <rockzman> !nvidia
[10:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:12] <gdb> Flannel: So it's probably installed and thus should not be removed.
[10:12] <Flannel> Shinzetsu: you'll have to unmount it manually
[10:12] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: lets say you want to know if there is a package named linux-image-amd
[10:12] <mrbigstuff28> well i wanna install the card
[10:12] <traviss> how the hell do i disable the shift + del quickkey
[10:12] <mrbigstuff28> the cards not in yet
[10:12] <Shinzetsu> Flannel: sudo umount /mount/point?
[10:12] <soundray> sirjohn: do you see any error messages when you type 'dmesg | tail'?
[10:12] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: then you enter the command: apt-cache search linux-image-amd
[10:12] <mwob> Hi, newbie question coming up: Why do some X apps look really crappy on ubuntu - naff font and ugly grey windows.... example: "pptp client".... do I need to set something up?
[10:13] <slacker_nl> Shinzetsu: jep
[10:13] <tjb13> what does this mean?
[10:13] <tjb13> root@tjb13-desktop:/# sensors-detect
[10:13] <tjb13> No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.
[10:13] <Shinzetsu> Flannel, slacker_nl: Says Device is busy
[10:13] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: cant i just install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-amd64-k8
[10:13] <tjb13> and how do i create them
[10:13] <traviss> anyone?
[10:13] <slacker_nl> Shinzetsu: fuser /mount/point
[10:13] <mrbigstuff28> rockz,am can i just put in the card and it will work?
[10:14] <slacker_nl> Shinzetsu: (ff in NL) dat laat zien welke proc of user die resource bezet houd
[10:14] <mrbigstuff28> rockaman*
[10:14] <soundray> traviss: try a more matter-of-fact style of asking
[10:14] <sirjohn> soundray,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20474
[10:14] <traviss> i thought my way was pretty straightforward?
[10:15] <sgcplayer> what are the options for making icons visible on the desktop?
[10:15] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: that's only the modules
[10:15] <Shinzetsu> slacker_nl: nothing shows up
[10:15] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: ok... puzzled..
[10:15] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: try it on the forums
[10:15] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: well, the ow to says to install those
[10:15] <soundray> sirjohn: could you do just dmesg and pastebin the last 60 or so lines pls
[10:15] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: *how to
[10:16] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: then do it :)
[10:16] <mrbigstuff28> -_-
[10:16] <sewsops> How do I tell Ubuntu not to upgrade a certain package? Also, my sudoers is messed up I think because I never ran Ubuntu's configuration utility; I installed this through debootstrap and base-config doesn't work anymore. It's fine because I can su but it's kind of annoying because gksu, etc. don't work
[10:16] <Flannel> gdb: In theory ;)  unfortunately, the server doesn't seem to have meta package.
[10:16] <vicscandl> !jedit > vicscandl
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jedit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <robert_> anybody have any experience with getting flash fonts and audio to work under 6.06?
[10:16] <Sobieski> slacker_nl: ill just install all the things, k8 .23 and -25 and generic -25 since generic-23 is alreday installed
[10:17] <mwob> ok, maybe my question was far too dull :) Never mind
[10:17] <gdb> Flannel: So I guess there isn't a meta-package that moves one from "Server" to "Desktop" installation.  The ubuntu-desktop installs *clients* not X infrastructure.   So I'm guessing that the end state of a default server install is everything through the ubuntu-standard pakage.  But I'm not sure what's installed after that to get to "desktop"
[10:17] <sirjohn> soundray,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20475
[10:17] <slacker_nl> Shinzetsu: ok.. lemme think, I had a similair issue, I was on the CD drive at the time I became root
[10:17] <Flannel> gdb: er, ubuntu-desktop should install X infastructure...
[10:17] <TheBaron> anyone know how to get evdev on my mouse to work and not give me a PreInit error?
[10:18] <Flannel> gdb: you can install a minimal system and apt-get ubuntu-desktop to get a full system
[10:18] <soundray> sirjohn: argh! Sorry, that's useless. Let me think of  another way...
[10:18] <slacker_nl> Sobieski: good call :)
[10:18] <gdb> Flannel: That's true, but removing everything that ubuntu-desktop depends on does not remove X.  X is assumed to be installed when ubuntu-desktop is installed.
[10:18] <sirjohn> soundray,  thats ok anything that lets me get my bros comtpuer out of my room so i can fix something else  :p
[10:19] <mrbigstuff28> soundray i wanna put in this MX 4400 card but im not sure if it will work is there anything i need to know b4 doing so?
[10:19] <slacker_nl> Shinzetsu: ik gok dat je een shell ergens open hebt die in het pad van je cd staat
[10:19] <Shinzetsu> slacker_nl: im in the middle of an install :-)
[10:19] <slacker_nl> ahh
[10:20] <Flannel> gdb: no, X depends on things that ubuntu-desktop depends on ;)  you have to go another layer deep.  if I remember correctly.
[10:20] <gdb> Flannel: I also believe, from looking at the depends list of ubuntu-desktop, that ubuntu-desktop is not used to install everything listed.  A lot of this stuff would need to be installed on a system on which there was no desktop.
[10:20] <slacker_nl> Shinzetsu: my brain say blub now ;)
[10:20] <Shinzetsu> gdb: hey
[10:20] <Shinzetsu> slacker_nl: np, thanks anyway
[10:20] <gdb> Flannel: yes, there is ubuntu-minimal (machine boots), ubuntu-standard (can get non-X work done) and ubuntu-desktp (yay for GNOME)
[10:20] <soundray> sirjohn: have a look at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1805 and links therein
[10:20] <mrbigstuff28> soundray i wanna put in this MX 4400 card but im not sure if it will work is there anything i need to know b4 doing so?
[10:21] <Jamie> hi.. do i run .sh by doing: ./filename.sh ?
[10:21] <sirjohn> pizz should be here soon
[10:21] <slacker_nl> Jamie: yes
[10:21] <gdb> Flannel: It would seem that ubuntu-standard is the end state of a "server" installation.
[10:21] <slacker_nl> Jamie: or sh ./filename.sh
[10:21] <sirjohn> pizza ^
[10:21] <soundray> mrbigstuff28: sorry to mislead you with my nick -- I have rudimentary knowledge of sound cards, but I can give you an ultrasound scan of your abdomen.
[10:21] <gdb> Flannel: Or there may be some more software installed past that.  That's what difficult to determine.
[10:21] <bgrimm> Please Help, at wits end with WPA connection! it says i'm associated with the AP, and I configured an IP/Netmask/Gateway, and can't ping the AP. I must be close but...
[10:21] <Flannel> gdb: that's whats standard for the alternate ISO, with server option.  but, I haven't dabbled in the new server ISO any
[10:22] <slacker_nl> bgrimm: check your default route
[10:22] <Flannel> gdb: er, ubuntu-desktop depends on x-window-system, which is what installs everything.
[10:22] <Jamie> slacker_nl: and if the file im trying to install/run tells me i shoudl be root or su instead of sudo.. what do I do?
[10:22] <gdb> To be honest, the best thing to do would be to get a selections list from a server install and then set every selection on the target to purge, read in the server selections, and do an apt-get dselect-upgrade to "snapshot" it to a server installations.
[10:22] <gdb> Shinzetsu: hey there!
[10:22] <mrbigstuff28> oh ok
[10:22] <darkowl> gdb: so ? an suggestions yet ?
[10:22] <slacker_nl> Jamie: sudo sh ./filename.sh
[10:22] <bgrimm> I made sure and added, route add default gw 192.168.0.1.
[10:22] <bgrimm> it does show up correctly with a route command.
[10:22] <traviss> Does anyone know how to disable the Shift + Del hotkey?
[10:22] <medina42> hola
[10:22] <slacker_nl> Jamie: I stand corrected
[10:22] <gdb> darkowl: How much custom software do you have installed beyond the base system?
[10:22] <Jamie> slacker_nl: hum.. i think i tried that.. thank you sir.. will try again
[10:22] <slacker_nl> Jamie: sudo su
 not many...
[10:23] <slacker_nl> Jamie: and then do: sh ./filename.sh
[10:23] <bgrimm> hmmw wait, default route shows for eth0 instead of ath0.
[10:23] <sirjohn> eating pizza
[10:23] <sirjohn> bbl
[10:23] <Jamie> ok
[10:23] <Flannel> Jamie: you should be able to use sudo
[10:23] <slacker_nl> and after its done, hit exit
[10:23] <bgrimm> eth0 is wired, ath0 is wifi
[10:23] <slacker_nl> bgrimm: can I see you route output?
[10:23] <robert_> anybody have any experience with getting flash fonts and audio to work under 6.06(desktop)?
[10:24] <kaffeewoller> hi. with which command can i exit gnome?
 links2, irssi,centericq, mocp, nano,vi, mc,wget,vsftpd, bastet, zgv,fbi,bashburn-cd, biew, htop,bc,rtorrent
[10:24] <jvai> hey every1..
 i know it because i am also doing lfs so this are my packages...
[10:24] <gdb> darkowl: To be honest, I think the best thing for you to do is get the selections list from a default server install (from someone running it) and then doing these commands: dpkg --get-selections > my-selections.txt ; cat my-selections.txt | sed 's/install/purge/g' > reset-selections.txt ; dpkg --set-selections < reset-selections.txt ; dpkg --get-selections < server-selections.txt ; apt-get dselect-upgrade (you'd get the server-selections.txt from someone els
[10:24] <Flannel> darkowl: those... well, the first few, are all in ubuntu-standard
[10:24] <kaffeewoller> and with which key can i open the menu from panel?
[10:25] <bgrimm> Iface is wrong for the default.
[10:25] <gdb> then you'd immediately reinstall linux-image-686 (as necessary)
 i know...i just c/p my package list from LFS
[10:25] <kaffeewoller> please...
[10:25] <slacker_nl> bgrimm: that can be solved :)
[10:25] <kaffeewoller> my panel is stuck, i need to exit gnome
[10:26] <kaffeewoller> by command.
[10:26] <darkowl> ISNT HERE ANYONE RUNNING SERVER INSTALL ?
[10:26] <gdb> darkowl: But perhaps soundray's suggestion is best.  There is no clean way, that I can tell, to do what you're asking.  You can remove "most of X" by removing some core library and everything that depends on it.  You can remove "all of X and probably things you should not remove" with x11-common, or you can download the server CD and reinstall your machine.
[10:26] <slacker_nl> kaffeewoller: alt ctrl backspace, this will restart your X
[10:26] <bgrimm> I'd post it but taht computer is offline since no wifi connect. (yes) anyhow I corrected the gateway and it still is no go... I'll copy the route output...
[10:26] <utab> can someone help me for upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06
[10:27] <soundray> slacker_nl: it seems to have worked ;)
[10:27] <rekrutacja> hi i have a very frustrating problem with wifi pcmcia card 3crshpw196 - it was working in hoary, but now i have fresh dapper install and its not working any more. this is atmel card. any ideas how to get it running?
 but then server install still has appache,php,mysql and bunch of stuff i dont need
[10:27] <soundray> !upgrade >utab
[10:27] <slacker_nl> soundray: sure looks like it
[10:27] <utab> ubotu: I have tried that but got some error messages
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I have tried that but got some error messages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <darkowl> lol utab
[10:27] <soundray> Cheers friends, gotta go
[10:27] <Flannel> ubotu: what errors?
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what errors? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <Flannel> er, utab what errors
[10:28] <darkowl> lol flannel
[10:28] <gdb> darkowl: That stuff isn't installed unless you select to do the LAMP installation during the OS install.
[10:28] <utab> I have tried upgrading by changing sources.list
[10:28] <gdb> At least I don't believe it is.
[10:28] <tomasz27> if i install ubuntu, does the default setup offer enough security or do i have to make any adjustments to secure the PC?
[10:28] <Flannel> gdb: no, it shouldnt be
[10:28] <utab> but the problem is that I can not upgrade first of all
[10:28] <darkowl> gdb...OK...ill downolad it now...so we will see...
[10:28] <gdb> Flannel has implied that the alternatives CD allows you to install a non-X based system.  Perhaps that's a route to explore
[10:29] <gdb> but I really think the server ISO is what you're looking for
 i have alternative cd...
[10:29] <Flannel> darkowl: yeah, if you want a basic, no frills system, get the alternate ISO and type 'server' at the prompt.  but, server *should* do the same thing
[10:29] <gdb> ah, there you go
[10:29] <gdb> You already have the CD you need then, and it supports the Server install you're looking for.
[10:29] <gdb> Without selecting the LAMP stack during installation, you'll end up with a stock Ubuntu system that does not include X.
 i hope well speak tonight with me in command line :)
[10:30] <Flannel> gdb: there is no LAMP option in the alternate ISO ;)
[10:30] <gdb> Well, that's even better. :-)
bye
[10:30] <gdb> darkowl: woot! :-D
[10:30] <gdb> darkowl: good luck!
byetnx,bye
[10:30] <utab> I used "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[10:30] <Flannel> utab: and what errors did you get.  You mind pastebinning your sources.list?
[10:30] <utab> but the first command fails
[10:31] <gdb> Flannel: You realize, of course, that I've been using Ubuntu (and indeed a Debian-style system) for all of 8 weeks, no? ;-)
[10:31] <utab> Flannel : how to pastebin
[10:31] <corevette> i edited a file in /etc .....how do i save it while i'm under root?
[10:31] <gdb> corevette: What editor are you using?
[10:31] <bgrimm> slacker_nl: view route info here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/vPpsVD77.html
[10:31] <corevette> gdb: just the text editor
[10:31] <utab> Flannel : I new to irc usage
[10:32] <gdb> corevette: nano, vi, emacs, gedit, etc?
[10:32] <gdb> corevette: the command to save will be dependant on the editor you're using
[10:32] <lens> I always get this error when trying to compile... does anyone know what's wrong... fixme:int:DOSVM_Int16Handler
[10:32] <corevette> gdb: gedit
[10:32] <gdb> corevette: Did you run "gksudo gedit /etc/file" or just open it with gedit from your desktop?
[10:32] <corevette> gdb: just from desktop
[10:32] <Ricesteam_> Hi, is anyone experienced with Wireshark?
[10:33] <utab> what is pastebinning
[10:33] <wedTM> anybody know the dreamweaver equivilent for Linux?
[10:33] <wedTM> !pastbin
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <Flannel> !tell utab about psatebin
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about psatebin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <gdb> corevette: Are you logged into the desktop as root or a normal user?
[10:33] <Flannel> !tell utab about paste
[10:33] <corevette> wedTM: try Nvu
[10:33] <wedTM> rarr
[10:33] <wedTM> Nvu?
[10:33] <wedTM> Thanks
[10:33] <stefg> syntax error in lines 1- 100.000
[10:33] <corevette> gdb: normal user
[10:33] <Sanne> wedTM: not an equivalent, but you might want to also look at quanta
[10:33] <utab> wedTM : dreamweaver = nvu
[10:34] <robert_> anybody have any experience with getting flash fonts and audio to work under 6.06(desktop)?
[10:34] <Jivers> ubuntu freezes while starting up nautalis
[10:34] <kaffeewoller> how to change the width of metacity borders?
[10:34] <Jivers> during that splash screen
[10:34] <slacker_nl> bgrim, that should work
[10:34] <Wermut> Which application do you recommend for editing audio tags on mp3, ogg etc. ?
[10:34] <Jivers> maybe not freezes, but just sits there doing nothing
[10:34] <corevette> gdb: give up or what?
[10:34] <crimsun> Wermut: ex false, cowbell, easytag
[10:34] <gdb> corevette: Then you're not going to be able to save the file.  You'll want to open a terminal "Applications > Accessories > Terminal" and run "gksudo gedit /etc/file" -- that will prompt you for your normal user password but will run gedit with root privileges.  You can edit the file normally and then just save it using the editor's File menu (or closing the editor and selecting "Save" when prompted).
[10:34] <crimsun> ex falso, rather
[10:34] <Jivers> after login
[10:35] <ardchoille> Wermut: I always liked easytag for that.. it's in the repos
[10:35] <gdb> corevette: I can only type so fast. ;-)
[10:35] <Jivers> oh sure, now it works
[10:35] <slacker_nl> bgrimm: hold on, work is calling
[10:35] <kyja> =] 
[10:35] <Sanne> robert_: better describe your specific problem, what did you do, what didn't work, what were the error messages etc
[10:35] <tapas> when i alter the fs of a live cd. how much of that will make it into the installation?
[10:35] <kyja> I must say I love this os
[10:35] <tapas> [i added some packages and a self compiled program] 
[10:35] <Wermut> crimsun: I've seen there are more than one and I am too lazy to try them out; which one is best (features, desktop integration) ?
[10:35] <Jivers> no it doesnt
[10:35] <ardchoille> Jivers: Isn't that one of Murphy's laws? lol
[10:35] <Jivers> its hung loading nautilus
[10:36] <tapas> does the installer basically copy the whole squashfs to the target?
[10:36] <Jivers> the little ubuntu splash bar is up and the nautilus icon is the last icon to appear, but then nothing
[10:36] <Jivers> sits here
[10:36] <corevette> gdb: thanks
[10:36] <Wermut> crimsun: Gnome integratoin would be nice
[10:36] <Jivers> cant click on anything
[10:36] <utab> Flannel : I have posted my log file as Update Error Log
[10:37] <ardchoille> Jivers: Did you change your window manager?
[10:37] <gdb> corevette: sure thing :-)
[10:37] <Jivers> no
[10:37] <Jivers> this is after a fresh install
[10:37] <Jivers> then i did the update
[10:37] <Jivers> then reboot
[10:37] <corevette> is the amarok irc just #amarok on freenode?
[10:38] <ardchoille> corevette: type this:  /msg chanserv info #amarok  This should give you some info about that channel
[10:38] <corevette> yeah it is.....nvm
[10:38] <corevette> ardchoille: tahnks
[10:38] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[10:38] <lens> I want to COMPLETELY remove wine on my system, what should I type?
[10:38] <Flannel> utab: you need to paste the url ;)
[10:39] <Jivers> any ideas
[10:39] <tjb13> guys i got my sensors showing up in lmsensors
[10:39] <tjb13> but i don't know how to control them now
[10:39] <Jivers> i cant click on anything
[10:39] <utab> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20476
[10:39] <ardchoille> Jivers: I can only say that I know that nautilus also manages the desktop (icons, right-click menu) so that info might help in troubleshooting.. I hope
[10:39] <Flannel> utab: and your source.list?
[10:39] <robert_> Sanne: I just installed 6.06, so I'm not really used to using a debian-based system.. But, I just tried it after  installing it last night, and I don't get any sound or any fonts
[10:40] <Jivers> i dont know anything about linux
[10:40] <bgrimm> Update: I believe it was a configuration problem on the router side (MAC address filter set to deny instead of allow). that is why iwconfig reported being associated, wpa_supplicant showed a negotiation and connect, but could not ping anything on the network.
[10:40] <Sanne> robert_: you said flash fonts. What do you mean? Can you see any fonts at all?
[10:40] <utab> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20478
[10:41] <robert_> not using flash
[10:41] <slacker_nl> bgrimm: solved?
[10:41] <robert_> Sanne: want me to take a screenshot?
[10:41] <slacker_nl> bgrimm: otherwise start wpa_supplicant in debug mode (-d) instead of -B
[10:42] <slacker_nl> bgrimm: add more d's if you want more debug info
[10:42] <Sanne> robert_: might help, yes
[10:42] <bgrimm> Yes, it was a router side issue. (yes I was running wpa_sup in debug, that is how I knew I had a negotiated connect. :)
[10:42] <robert_> okay
[10:42] <slacker_nl> bgrimm: ok
[10:42] <utab> Flannel: I used the sources file that is provided on the wiki
[10:42] <bgrimm> odd that wrt54g (openwrt) allowed a connect with deny'd MAC filter set.
[10:44] <Flannel> utab: aye.  Well, the repositories are the things giving you problems, (they do that sometime) either, wait around for them to work themselves out, or use a different mirror
[10:45] <utab> Flannel: I am in Belgium and this is happening all the time I have started to use Ubuntu can you suggest a different mirror
[10:45] <Jivers> blah
[10:45] <Jivers> my ubuntu is dead
[10:45] <utab> Flannel: maybe in France, Holland, Germany
[10:46] <utab> Flannel: where can I search for different mirrors
[10:46] <rekrutacja> is there anyone to help me woth atmel  pcmcia wifi card? i cannot get it running...
[10:47] <Flannel> !tell utab about easysource
[10:47] <Flannel> utab: you can use that to get the url of current repositories near you
[10:49] <Sobieski> I tried the How To on installing NVIDIA graphic drivers, but the last step where you type in a command gives me an error
[10:49] <slacker_nl> goodnight all
[10:49] <Sobieski> goodnight and thx
[10:49] <moparfan90> hello. is there a way to get mplayer or xmms to play mp3's in surround sound mode?
[10:50] <ragz> mp3's don't have surround sound support:|
[10:50] <ragz> afaik
[10:50] <Sobieski> anyone?
[10:50] <Sobieski> what do do
[10:50] <moparfan90> ragz, well when i had windows installed, i could play mp3's in media player and they came out in full surround sound mode.. it wasnt true but it sounds alot better
[10:51] <Flannel> Sobieski: which command is it? and what error does it give?
[10:51] <Sobieski> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:51] <Sobieski> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[10:51] <Sobieski> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[10:51] <Sobieski> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[10:51] <Sobieski> command:
[10:51] <Sobieski> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[10:52] <Sobieski> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[10:52] <Sobieski> from nv to nvidia.
[10:52] <Sobieski> sobieski@sobieski-desktop:~$
[10:52] <Sobieski> sobieski@sobieski-desktop:~$
[10:52] <moparfan90> is there a way i can fake 6 channel surround?
[10:52] <Flannel> Sobieski: er, don't paste in here.
[10:52] <Sobieski> i had a problem pasting, but u get it
[10:52] <utab> Flannel: I get a "no ultimately trusted keys found"
[10:52] <Flannel> Sobieski: right, so edit it manually, and change 'nv' to 'nvidia'
[10:52] <Linuturk> I got a question
[10:53] <sirjohn> soundray - ping ?
[10:53] <Flannel> utab: go back to that page, and theres a yellow box on top, that's the solution ot that problem
[10:53] <Linuturk> you know the desktop switcher on the bottom right?
[10:53] <sirjohn> damm hes gone offline
[10:53] <Linuturk> it seems to lose it's details at random
[10:53] <Sobieski> Flannel: well, im a complete newbie, should i edit it in comand?
[10:53] <Linuturk> for example, if I have Xchat opened, it shows a X in the desktop that it's in
[10:53] <Linuturk> Evolution shows an envelope
[10:53] <Flannel> Sobieski: gksudo gedit /[that path] 
, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:54] <Linuturk> but, that goes away at random
[10:54] <Linuturk> showing the vanilla windows
[10:54] <Linuturk> how do I stop that from happening?
[10:54] <Sobieski> I think its working, thx im gonna try a reboot
[10:54] <utab> Flannel: I can not see the box you have mentioned
[10:55] <corevette> how do you stop rhythmbox from opening when i plug in my ipod?
[10:55] <moparfan90> is there a way to install wine in my ubuntu amd64 install?
[10:55] <Flannel> utab: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic  top bit, before any of the form selections
[10:56] <utab> Flannel: give me some text tom mark
[10:56] <ingvildr> corevette: system > preferences > removable drives and media
[10:56] <Jivers> ubuntu fails to boot past nautilus, what is the procedure to correct this, thanks
[10:56] <Posty_> Is there a way to disable my AC97 in Ubuntu without disabling it in the BIOS?
[10:56] <moparfan90> flannel, right click the link, copy link location
[10:56] <moparfan90> then paste in here for him
[10:56] <sirjohn> !sound
[10:56] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[10:57] <utab> Flannel: will I generate sources .list for the version I use or try to upgrade
[10:57] <sirjohn> crap done all of that
[10:57] <corevette> ingvildr: thanks
[10:57] <Flannel> utab: no, no.  the stuff above that.  gpg stuff
[10:57] <utab> Flannel: means "dapper" in the selections menu
[10:58] <utab> Flannel: you mean the commands
[10:58] <utab> Flannel: they are not yellow on my screen sorry
[10:58] <g-nome> hello, does the 64bit ubuntu version only contain a different kernel or more?
[10:59] <utab> Flannel: what now?
[10:59] <Flannel> g-nome: well, packages are all compiled for 64bit, so all the packages are different, yeah
[10:59] <g-nome> can i run 64 and 32 bit on the SAME machine, if possible even the same ubuntu installation!?
[10:59] <Flannel> utab: did you do that gpg stuff?  you should not get that no trusted keys error then
[11:00] <utab> Flannel: I tried and after that I got that
[11:00] <Linuturk> I have a workspace switcher on my panel. On a fresh boot, the panel will show the type of program is on that workspace (ie evolution shows an letter, xchat shows a red x), if I run a full size program, or if I move the panel, these details disappear. Any help?
[11:00] <utab> Flannel: I used key ID:437D05B5
[11:01] <darkowl> Flannel: no luck...my internet connection is not working on server version...
[11:01] <g-nome> can i run 64 and 32 bit on the same Ubuntu installation!?
[11:01] <Andrij> g'evening
[11:01] <Flannel> utab: right, and if you do  the gpg commands, then you should not get that No Trusted Keys error anymore
[11:01] <darkowl> Flannel: and is it possible that ubuntu server has different available packages for apt-get ?
[11:01] <Flannel> darkowl: did it work on your previous install without tweaks?
[11:01] <Flannel> darkowl: no, they all use the same repositories
 yes
[11:02] <utab> Flannel: I am going to try again
[11:02] <Andrij> can someone help w/ a Breezy Badger install?
[11:02] <mumbles> eatin pizargh
[11:02] <mumbles> ?
[11:02] <Ricesteam_> how do I use Ethereal non-root
[11:02] <mumbles> argh - i hate soundblaster cards
[11:02] <Flannel> darkowl: if it worked then, it *should* work now, as it's all the same wireless stuff.
[11:02] <mumbles> my brothers going to have to do without sound for a while
[11:02] <Flannel> darkowl: of course, should is the operative word in that statement ;)
[11:02] <TheGateKeeper> g-nome: yes https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[11:02] <mumbles> untill i can work out how to do it proppaly
[11:02] <Sanne> g-nome: you can run 32 bit programs on a 64 bit System, with a bit of tweaking. This should give you an idea: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191205
[11:02] <Flannel> Andrij: what do you need help with?
[11:03] <utab> Flannel: now OK, I did not understand
 i runed the pppoeconf command as in desktop version and configured all but my connection fail...
[11:03] <g-nome> thanks TheGateKeeper & Sanne, these are helpful links ;-)
[11:03] <Andrij> Flannel: I don't recall being asked for a root password during the install.  Should I have been?
[11:03] <Flannel> Andrij: nope.  ubuntu doesn't use the root account
[11:03] <Flannel> !tell Andrij about root
[11:03] <utab> Flannel: I tried again :sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:03] <TheGateKeeper> g-nome: :-)
[11:03] <Sanne> g-nome: you're welcome :)
[11:04] <utab> Flannel: again ended up with errors
[11:04] <dmglouis> does anyone know why DVDs won't play on Totem?
[11:04] <Andrij> Flannel: O...K....
[11:04] <Flannel> utab: paste those errors in pastebin
[11:04] <Flannel> Andrij: read the link ubotu sent you for details
[11:04] <mumbles> thanks for the help eveyone btw
[11:04] <Linuturk> !tell dmglouis about restricted
[11:05] <TheGateKeeper> dmglouis: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[11:05] <utab> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20480
[11:05] <evan_w00> how do I "setup" files in linux? makefiles?
[11:05] <Andrij> FLannel: sorry, what link?
 what can i do now ?
[11:05] <Flannel> Andrij: ubotu sent you a link in a query
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> evan_w00,  setup what files?
[11:06] <evan_w00> Dr_Willis im trying to setup winrar, so i downloaded the .tar.gz
[11:06] <Andrij> oh, sorry. Been ages since I used IRC, still coming to grips with this.
[11:06] <evan_w00> Dr_Willis im kinda of lost in how I set them up :P
[11:06] <xBeetle> Hello
[11:06] <Flannel> utab: you haven't changed your repositories to the local ones
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> evan_w00,  ya could just 'sudo apt-get install TheRightPAckageName' for some rar tools..
[11:06] <evan_w00> Dr_Willis oh ok, ill try that, thanks
[11:07] <utab> Flannel: I just did the gpg stuff and tried sudo update
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> evan_w00,  if using wine to run winrar. you just uncompress the winrar.exe, and use 'wine winrarinstaller.exe' or whatever its called.
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[11:07] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[11:07] <Zkillz|Admin> I wish to start 4 game servers automatically when ubuntu boots. Any ideas?
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> !info unrar-free
[11:07] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[11:07] <Flannel> utab: right, you need to change your sources.list though
[11:07] <evan_w00> oh winrar comes in tar.gz
[11:07] <bXi> okay
[11:07] <bXi> i just did a fresh install of kubuntu
[11:07] <Andrij> thanks
[11:07] <bXi> installed a k7 kernel
[11:07] <utab> Flannel: how to do taht
[11:07] <Zkillz|Admin> Anyone? :-)
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> evan_w00,  last i downloaded it for windows - it dident.
[11:07] <bXi> installed the ati module according to a certain site (getting the addy)
[11:08] <evan_w00>  ah.
[11:08] <Flannel> utab: use that webpage to generate the listings for you, then copy that as your sources.list
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> evan_w00,  or theres the linux packages taht do the same job :)
[11:08] <evan_w00> Dr_Willis yep, there is
[11:08] <bXi> i installed according to http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[11:08] <nixconverter> does ubuntu have any system administration tools for server installs like yast for SuSe
[11:08] <utab> Flannel: how stupid I am, Now got that
[11:08] <bXi> and after i reboot i dont get anything
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> !ati
[11:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> is what i followed.
[11:09] <Zkillz|Admin> I wish to start 4 game servers automatically when ubuntu boots. Any ideas?
[11:09] <utab> Flannel: I will use my current distro to generate the file or the distro that I would like to upgrade
[11:09] <Flannel> utab: use dapper
[11:09] <TheGateKeeper> nixconverter: apt-get
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> Zkillz|Admin,  learn the sysv system and make rc scripts for them.. or use the rc.local script
[11:10] <xBeetle> If someone is able and willing to help me with my first steps on ubuntu (freshly installed) please query me. German language preferred, but i understand some english, too.
 will you help me ?
[11:10] <Zkillz|Admin> hmm Dr_Willis, didnt really tell me that much :P
[11:10] <nixconverter> TheGateKeeper: yea but isn't that just a software install/upgrade/remove tool isn't it
[11:10] <corevette> is there a way to get the resolution over 1024x768??
[11:10] <Flannel> darkowl: sorry, I've no experience when it comes to networking
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> Zkillz|Admin,  /etc/rc,local    look at it
[11:11] <Flannel> !tell corevette about fixres
[11:11] <bXi> i'll check that out
 but is there another way to have ubuntu-desktop without x so i dont have to use server version ?
[11:11] <TheGateKeeper> nixconverter: yes did I misinterpret what you where after
[11:11] <orasis1> How do I make XMMS, the default player for playlist files (m3u's,pls's)?
[11:12] <Flannel> darkowl: besides installing ubuntu-desktop and just removing everything?  no
[11:12] <utab> Flannel: I got some error messages again and this is it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20481
[11:12] <DamianFinol> Good evening, I'm trying to run my desktop as 1280x960, I was able to when I was under Debian and Windows, however I get a No valid modes for "1280x960" and it falls back to 1024. Any ideas? as to why?
[11:12] <bXi> DamianFinol: try to find your monitor in system administration panel
[11:12] <TheGateKeeper> corevette: modify your xorg.conf file assuming your monitor will support it
[11:12] <erUSUL> orasis1: right click in the m3u file go to properties>tab open with
[11:12] <u221e> Well, I just installed xgl/compiz... all I can say is :O
[11:12] <utab> Flannel : I could not understand why this became a pain for me
[11:13] <DamianFinol> bXi,  Devices?
[11:13] <Ropechoborra> I got an Intel Celeron 2.0 GHZ wich kernel fits best?
 but i dont know what to remove ?? I want to still have fb...
[11:13] <will_> u22ie I'm having a fair amount getting the compiz end running
[11:13] <Zkillz|Admin> Dr_Willis, I dont have that /etc/rc.local file? :(
[11:13] <Flannel> darkowl: fb?
[11:13] <utab> Flannel: It would be easier for me to install from scracth
[11:13] <will_> I just logged into XGL session, which is fine
[11:13] <orasis1> Eru, alright - and if I want them to stream from the browser, I guess i set it up in the browser correct?
 frame buffer
[11:13] <will_> but no compiz goodness ;_;
[11:13] <Flannel> !xgl
[11:13] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> Zkillz|Admin,  odd.. i got one.. what version of ubuntu you using?
[11:13] <Zkillz|Admin> 5.10 breezy Dr_Willis
[11:13] <Zkillz|Admin> server
[11:13] <Zkillz|Admin> rc0.d/ rc1.d/ rc2.d/ rc3.d/ rc4.d/ rc5.d/ rc6.d/ rcS.d/
[11:14] <Zkillz|Admin> :(
[11:14] <Zkillz|Admin> all I found
[11:14] <DamianFinol> bXi,  Where exactly?
[11:14] <u221e> The rearrange windows effect is great...
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> Zkillz|Admin,  you are on your own then. I use dapper. check the ubuntu wiki/forums.. or upgrade.
[11:14] <u221e> No more hunting for the correct window in the task bar
[11:14] <Flannel> darkowl: well, right now, you're on an ubuntu-desktop with all the desktop stuff removed, so... you can easil creep up to what you want installed.  Once you get networking working
[11:14] <Zkillz|Admin> Dr_Willis, sorry. im not gonna use dapper, it doesnt work well for gameservers (trust me, I spent 20hours on formating, installing, fomrating, installing etc)
[11:15] <u221e> will_ what video card do you have?
[11:15] <utab> Flannel: have you noticed my last post
 but i cant get my connection to work...
[11:15] <SirKillalot> can I save a list of the installed .deb packages on my system to easily recover all installed packages when I reinstall my system?
[11:15] <tapas> hmm, weird somehow my altered kubunto squashfs system [where i only installed some additional packages]  complains about kio slave on startup
[11:15] <Flannel> darkowl: right, you'll have to ask someone here about it
[11:15] <Zkillz|Admin> well Dr_Willis, then you can help me with this: (one second=
[11:15] <tapas> and doesn't show the desktop icons
[11:15] <Zkillz|Admin> !pastebin
[11:15] <junkphreak> hey whats good program to check if the ati card is working for 3d
[11:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:16] <darkowl> Is here someone who has the connection working in ubuntu server ?
[11:16] <Zkillz|Admin> I found this guide about it Dr_Willis, I dunno where to put those lines then in that file, any ideas? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20482
[11:16] <Flannel> utab: It might very well be.  Especially if youve got a separate home partition
[11:16] <Flannel> darkowl: it should be the exact same as anyone else (well, sans the GUI tools).  Its all the same ubuntu
[11:16] <xBeetle>  If someone is able and willing to help me with my first steps on ubuntu (freshly installed) please query me. German language preferred, but i understand some english, too.
[11:16] <will_> u221e - some ati radeon card
[11:16] <will_> XGL session is running fine
[11:16] <Flannel> !de
[11:16] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:17] <will_> now that I fixed the display parameters in it
[11:17] <xBeetle> thx
[11:17] <utab> Flannel: I used this sources list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20484
 well why isnt it working then...i used pppoeconf command in desktop versio too...so there shouldnt be any diference
[11:17] <will_> it's just I'm essentially running Gnome a la XGL since Compiz isn't working :p
[11:17] <utab> Flannel: What so
[11:17] <nixconverter> TheGateKeeper: I'm talking more like setting  up services or changing user details and such...yast can configure hardware or any other general setting
[11:17] <Flannel> utab: oh, you didn't put in your countrycode?
[11:17] <will_> cgwd doesn't even changed anything :/
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> Zkillz|Admin,    /etc/rc.local file is the file i just refered to - thats in dapper.
[11:18] <Flannel> utab: you're still using the same repository ;)  so, same problem
[11:18] <SirKillalot> need a bash pro: how do I filter out the second word of a line in bash?
[11:18] <SirKillalot> using pipes maybe..
[11:18] <edju> Trying to get a new install of ubuntu set up.  Followed the wireless directions on the forum and ndiswrapper -l says driver & hardware present, but no wifi yet.  WG511 pcmcia card.  Any pointers or hints?
[11:18] <Zkillz|Admin> Dr_Willis, perhaps somewhere in /etc/init.d/ ?
[11:18] <askjf>  Will a keyboard Video Monitor switch work on Ubuntu?
[11:18] <utab> Flannel: where to add the country code
[11:18] <utab> Flannel: are there other things to change
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> Zkillz|Admin,  see if thers some sort of rc.local named service in there.. or learn how to make your own server scripts from the examples in init.d
[11:19] <ardchoille> askjf: I have seen lots of folks using them
[11:19] <TheGateKeeper> nixconverter: sorry haven't heard of such a tool :-(
[11:19] <askjf> ok ty i just have one monitor and need 1 badly
[11:19] <Nsf-> i've installed opera and enabled smooth scrolling and still doesnt work :(
[11:19] <Nsf-> thx for any help
[11:19] <nixconverter> TheGateKeeper: I was just asking if there was one
[11:19] <mumbles> how do i get rid of stuff under the aplication menu ?
[11:19] <evan_w00> how do I solve the problem of "E: Couldn't find package rarlinux-3.6.b6.tar.gz" (sudo apt-get install)
[11:19] <mumbles> !applications
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about applications - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <Flannel> utab: country code in the source-list generator.  you'll end up with something like: us.archive.ubuntu.com instead of archive.ubuntu.com (thats forthe us mirror)  stuff like that, since archive.ubuntu.com is apparently having problems with you at the moment
[11:20] <ardchoille> mumbles: right click the applications menu, choose Edit Menus, then uncheck the items you dont' want to see
[11:20] <evan_w00> mumbles dont you uncheck the stuff in add application?
[11:20] <nixconverter> TheGateKeeper: I've never used Ubuntu just looking at some features
[11:20] <TheGateKeeper> nixconverter: to the best of my knowledge you have to do that manually, someone else may know differently
[11:21] <evan_w00> What does this mean? "E: Couldn't find package rarlinux-3.6.b6.tar.gz" specificly the "E:"
[11:21] <utab> Flannel: where can I find the country codes
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> error:  :)
[11:21] <evan_w00> oh lol
[11:21] <nixconverter> TheGateKeeper: manual is fine with me...don't worry about it...thanks
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> evan_w00,  could mean the server is slow/down
[11:21] <evan_w00> where should i place my tarball files?
[11:21] <utab> Flannel:I would like to try nearby countries as well
[11:21] <Flannel> utab: On that webpage, theres a box for your country code
[11:21] <EnsignRedshirt> Zkillz|Admin: Take a look at this page, especially the section called "Installing custom init-scripts"
[11:21] <evan_w00> Dr_Willis hmm it happened when i tried to install a tar file
[11:21] <utab> Flannel: Oh yes
[11:22] <void^> evan_w00: apt doesn't touch .tar.gz files.
[11:22] <EnsignRedshirt> Zkillz|Admin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> evan_w00,  how are you 'installing' a tar file?
[11:22] <evan_w00> void^ Ohhh!!!
[11:22] <ravenous> tar.gz needs to be compiled from source
[11:22] <evan_w00> oh i see.
[11:22] <TheGateKeeper> nixconverter: ok :-) tried sourcemage myself today, sadly kde would not build :-(
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> heh -- yea.. big 'oops' :P
[11:22] <evan_w00> hehe, still brand new to linux
[11:22] <ardchoille> evan_w00: Which apps are you compiling?
[11:22] <onicrom> hi guys is there an edgy eft help channel?
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> and why havent you used the package manager to install the rar/unrar commands like weve said a dozen times?
[11:22] <evan_w00> ardchoille now im not sure lol, im so confused right now, Right now i want to try and install WinRAR
[11:23] <ravenous> onicrom: #ubuntu+1
[11:23] <onicrom> thanks
[11:23] <ardchoille> !rar > evan_w00
[11:23] <red|rain> hey everyone :) i'm looking for an image viewer I forgot the name but i'm sure it was mono based, anyone know which one im talking about?
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> You dont need 'winrar' :P the native rar tools for linux can do the jobs
[11:23] <will_> winRAR isn't really needed evan :p
[11:23] <evan_w00> oh.
[11:23] <will_> sarnath'd to the extreme
[11:23] <utab> # Automatically generated sources.list
[11:23] <utab> # http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:23] <utab> #
[11:23] <utab> # If you get errors about missing keys, lookup the key in this file
[11:23] <utab> # and run these commands (replace KEY with the key number)
[11:23] <utab> #
[11:23] <evan_w00> some of my files on my CD recieves an error.
[11:23] <utab> # gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv KEY
[11:23] <utab> # gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[11:23] <utab> # Ubuntu supported packages (packages, GPG key: 437D05B5)
[11:23] <utab> deb http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted
[11:24] <utab> deb http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted
[11:24] <utab> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[11:24] <lhds> i just want to ask if i wanted to install compiz on ubuntu with x 7.0 and a custom kernel 2.6.17.7 i download the same ubuntu packages? or i need special packages?
[11:24] <red|rain> evan_w00, if you need to unrar rar file download unrar in sypaptic or "sudo apt-get install unrar"
[11:24] <utab> # Ubuntu supported packages (sources, GPG key: 437D05B5)
[11:24] <utab> deb-src http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted
[11:24] <Linuturk> !paste
[11:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:24] <ardchoille> !paste > utab
[11:24] <utab> deb-src http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted
[11:24] <utab> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[11:24] <utab> # Ubuntu community supported packages (packages, GPG key: 437D05B5)
[11:24] <utab> deb http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[11:24] <evan_w00> oh ok
[11:24] <utab> deb http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse
[11:24] <utab> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse
[11:24] <utab> # Ubuntu community supported packages (sources, GPG key: 437D05B5)
[11:24] <ardchoille> utab: STOP
[11:24] <utab> deb-src http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[11:24] <Linuturk> utab, stop
[11:24] <utab> deb-src http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse
[11:24] <utab> sorry
[11:24] <Flannel> he cant stop.  he's in the middle of a paste.
[11:24] <utab> soory for that
[11:24] <Linuturk> !paste
[11:24] <Flannel> you people know that ;)
[11:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:24] <will_> lol
[11:24] <utab> ardchoille : sorry
[11:24] <Linuturk> Flannel, it's still annoying ;p
[11:24] <evan_w00> thanks guys.
[11:25] <ardchoille> Flannel: if he were int the middle, wouldn't it have pasted all at once without being interrupted by other peoples' posts?
[11:25] <sirjohn> utab,  you uisng mirc?
[11:25] <sirjohn> couse theres a way of quitting the past
[11:25] <tapas> ardchoille: nope
[11:25] <Linuturk> AND, you can use Control + C to stop a paste
[11:25] <ardchoille> ahh, I see
[11:25] <Flannel> ardchoille: it's flood protectin, thats how it works.  Clients set it up in a queue
[11:25] <ardchoille> Flannel: Thanks, didn't know that
[11:26] <Linuturk> Flannel, ^^ ardchoille : you can use Control + C to stop the paste
[11:26] <constantine-xvi> is there a good news ticker for the gnome panel?
[11:26] <Flannel> Linuturk: only on certain clients
[11:26] <ardchoille> Linuturk: Thank you, didn't know that either.
[11:26] <will_> Gnome seriously needs to port Super Karamba
[11:26] <red|rain> will_, whats wrong with gdesklets?
[11:27] <Nsf-> i've installed opera and enabled smooth scrolling and still doesnt work  thx for any help
[11:28] <Jmod> Hi noob here<--  I im installing  Macromedia Flash Player and it requires two font packages
[11:28] <Jmod>       to be installed, gsfonts and gsfonts-x11. how do I do this or is it saying to me that it is going to install it?
[11:28] <Flannel> Nsf-: sounds like an opera problem.  you might be better off asking them about it.
[11:28] <constantine-xvi> Jmod: it's doing it on its own
[11:28] <constantine-xvi> just a warning
[11:28] <Nsf-> okt tnx
[11:28] <utab> Flannel: I still get errors
[11:29] <Flannel> utab: which errors
[11:29] <Jmod> anyone?
[11:29] <Flannel> Jmod, constantine-xvi answered you
[11:29] <bXi> okay thats it
[11:29] <bXi> removing ubuntu again and installing windows
[11:29] <Gradius9> hi
[11:29] <Jmod> ok so it just a warning and I don't have to find the fonts to install then?
[11:30] <b14ck73425> hey everybody
[11:30] <constantine-xvi> Jmod: right
[11:30] <utab> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20486
[11:30] <Jmod> cool thanks
[11:30] <b14ck73425> i need help with network printers
[11:30] <b14ck73425> can anybody help
[11:30] <EnsignRedshirt> b14ck73425: Just ask
[11:30] <EnsignRedshirt> !anybody
[11:30] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:31] <TheGateKeeper> b14ck73425: ask your specific question/problem
[11:31] <will_> red|rain - half the gDesklets apps are not only ugly but don't even _work_ on my system
[11:31] <will_> Super Karamba is more user-friendly and has a far better gui
[11:31] <b14ck73425> well i have a computer in my sisters room which is a windows pc and i have my linux pc in the basement, ive done it before but since i wiped and reinstalled the whole thing doesnt work
[11:32] <b14ck73425> the printing i mean
[11:32] <chalcedony> how do i move a file downloaded to 'desktop' to 'home' ? The file has spaces in the file name: This is File234.doc
[11:32] <TheGateKeeper> b14ck73425: just done this hang on...
[11:32] <red|rain> will_, ahh ic, I have only used gdesklets a couple of times. can you just use superkaramba in gnome? or is it kde only?
[11:32] <constantine-xvi> chalcedony: open home, drag file from desktop to home
[11:32] <will_> even if you've the kubuntu-desktop metapackage installed, Super Karamba stuff will only half work in gnome
[11:32] <TheGateKeeper> b14ck73425:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[11:33] <eyequeue> chalcedony, mv This\ is* ~
[11:33] <chalcedony> connyosis: is there a non-gui way?
[11:33] <will_> and what does work is usually massively butchered
[11:33] <utab> Flannel: is there another way to upgrade
[11:33] <will_> which is a true shame
[11:33] <EnsignRedshirt> I don't know if I can help you, but I think it would be good to know which computer the printer is attacehd to, windows or ubuntu?
[11:33] <chalcedony> ahh ty ty ty ty
[11:33] <Flannel> chalcedony: you need to escape the spaces (\ ) tab complete will also do it for you
[11:33] <b14ck73425> ok thanks
[11:33] <red|rain> will_, ahh ok I gotcha now :)
[11:33] <will_> but using Gnome/XGL means more to me than widgets :p
[11:33] <will_> so, heh
[11:33] <b14ck73425> the printer is on a windows computer
[11:33] <utab> Flannel : were you able to check the errors
[11:33] <ardchoille> Flannel: got time for a quick pm?
[11:33] <eyequeue> chalcedony, yes, tab completion is your friend
[11:33] <Flannel> ardchoille: sure
[11:34] <profoX`> I upgraded a few packages to edgy, but I want to have them dapper again. This is possible, right?
[11:34] <profoX`> can dist-upgrade automatically downgrade packages
[11:34] <TheGateKeeper> b14ck73425: I am going to look at a little program to see if the winxp machine can resolve the linux pc's ip address in the next couple of days
[11:34] <eyequeue> profoX`, no
[11:34] <utab> Flannel: which country are you in
[11:34] <b14ck73425> ok cool let me know
[11:34] <Gradius9> I am going to install linux on a portable 120 mhz pentium, with 12 mb ram, is DSL the best alternative?
[11:34] <profoX`> eyequeue: thats lame..
[11:34] <Gnonthgol> Anyone know how to get exstra long error messenges?
[11:34] <profoX`> any advice then
[11:34] <will_> you ought to be able to 'sudo apt-get install package=version' and force it, IIRC profox
[11:34] <constantine-xvi> Gradius9: yeah
[11:34] <utab> Flannel: I will try yours
[11:34] <b14ck73425> blacktears_z@yahoo.com if you im
[11:35] <eyequeue> profoX`, will_
[11:35] <SEJeff> Gradius9: with 12mb of ram, don't expect any sort of gui other than the terminal
[11:35] <Gradius9> constantine-xvi, ok, thanks, have som problems installing it, any good way of formatting the disk
[11:35] <TheGateKeeper> b14ck73425: if the printer is on a winxp machine I would guess you need samba
[11:35] <b14ck73425> samba?
[11:35] <constantine-xvi> Gradius9: run cfdisk from dsl
[11:35] <Gnonthgol> Anyone know how to get hold of exstra long error messenges?
[11:36] <Gradius9> SEJeff, ok, but the dsl reqs. talks about 486
[11:36] <chalcedony> ~$ cd home
[11:36] <chalcedony> bash: cd: home: No such file or directory
[11:36] <chalcedony> ~$
[11:36] <will_> cd /home
[11:36] <EnsignRedshirt> b14ck73425: I don't know if this page will be helpful, but take a look: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter
[11:36] <will_> :p
[11:36] <eyequeue> chalcedony, cd ~
[11:36] <Gradius9> constantine-xvi, i have done it and it gives me fatal error
[11:36] <TheGateKeeper> b14ck73425: that is a slightly different problem, does the Printer wizzard not resolve it?
[11:36] <SEJeff> Gradius9: I am talking about a usable graphical interface. I dont 12mb will even allow x to work well
[11:36] <chalcedony> cd desktop ?
[11:36] <chalcedony> i mistyped
[11:36] <eyequeue> chalcedony, no, cd ~
[11:37] <TheGateKeeper> !samba > b14ck73425
[11:37] <gnomefreak> chalcedony: if you type cd it will send you to home
[11:37] <Gnonthgol> cd Desktop
[11:37] <will_> cd ~/Desktop or ./Desktop
[11:37] <chalcedony> cap D?
[11:37] <Gradius9> a terminal where I can use the mouse is the only thing I may need
[11:37] <will_> aye
[11:37] <gnomefreak> cd Desktop works fine
[11:37] <profoX`> will_: I know that.. but it's not what I need unfortunately :(
[11:37] <EnsignRedshirt> b14ck73425: There are a few other pages on the wiki about network printing... try searching for the title Printing
[11:37] <b14ck73425> im downloading samba right now
[11:37] <eyequeue> chalcedony, /home is not your $HOME
[11:37] <will_> ah sorry then profoX`
[11:37] <Zkillz|Admin> what was the comamnd to copy a folder to another location cp -R dir to/dir ?
[11:37] <b14ck73425> thanks ill try it and let you know
[11:37] <EnsignRedshirt> b14ck73425: Samba might work, but in theory at least, I don't think you should need it.
[11:37] <profoX`> $HOME is /home/$USER :)
[11:38] <Gnonthgol> Zkillz|Admin: just make new folder and copy contens
[11:38] <Gradius9> SEJeff, a terminal where I can use the mouse is the only thing I may need
[11:38] <TheGateKeeper> b14ck73425: not 100% sure that is the answer, like EnsignRedshirt said check the wiki site and ubuntu forums before blasting into it
[11:38] <utab> Flannel: Are you with me
[11:38] <Stormx2> hey folks, I saw on gnome-look someone demonstrating a theme and they had a start menu style app running on their gnome-panel. I've since forgotten what the actual item is, can anyone give me an idea?
[11:39] <ardchoille> Zkillz|Admin: cp -r /dir /desired/path
[11:39] <Zkillz|Admin> thanks
[11:39] <SEJeff> Gradius9: Ok that might work. What do you need the mouse for? emacs
[11:39] <b14ck73425> yeah im going to try what ubuntu said and then ill get back to you guys, thanks for the help
[11:39] <Zkillz|Admin> also, how to make a symbolic link, ex /home/cs/hi/ is /var/www/cstrike ?
[11:39] <TheGateKeeper> b14ck73425: I would have thought you just use the printing wizzard and tell it that you are using a network printer
[11:39] <utab> Someone from Belgium?
[11:39] <Flannel> Zkillz|Admin: ln
[11:39] <Gnonthgol> Zkillz|Admin: use the ls command in some way
[11:39] <Stormx2> utab: I'm pretty sure a lot of people are from Belgium
[11:40] <Zkillz|Admin> ln /blabla/ /bla/www ?
[11:40] <SEJeff> Stormx2: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_System_Panel
[11:40] <Zkillz|Admin> big thank you.
[11:40] <ardchoille> Zkillz|Admin: ln -s /source /target
[11:40] <b14ck73425> yeah im going to use the wizard
[11:40] <Zkillz|Admin> thanks
[11:40] <SEJeff> Stormx2: You can apt-get install it from QuinnStorm's compiz repository
[11:40] <will_> brb
[11:40] <will_> gonna restart X
[11:40] <will_> try and get this compiz shiznat working right
[11:40] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[11:40] <utab> Stormx2: I am in Belgium and havinf some problems with my sources.list
[11:40] <Gnonthgol> I got this realy long output on stderr and needs the first lines
[11:41] <Gnonthgol> utab: what kind of problem
[11:41] <utab> Flannel: do you have further suggestions
[11:42] <Stormx2> utab: what is the problem?
[11:42] <utab> Gnonthgol : please see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20486
[11:42] <Czubek> Hi all.
[11:42] <utab> Stormx2 :please see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20486
[11:43] <tapas> ok, i booted into the ubunto live cd.. running qt programs gives me: konqueror: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3: unexpected PLT reloc type 0x00
[11:43] <tapas> ugh
[11:43] <Gradius9> SEJeff, I am pretty used to work with a mouse...
[11:43] <Czubek> Can someone tell me why dhcp-server can't restart on my laptop?
[11:44] <tapas> 0
[11:44] <evan_w00> Can ubuntu open .RAR files?
[11:44] <evan_w00> or is it only zip?
[11:44] <ardchoille> !rar
[11:44] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[11:45] <evan_w00> ohhh neat :P
[11:45] <utab> Stormx2 : could you figure sth out
[11:45] <seatouch> !identd
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about identd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:45] <seatouch> !identd
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about identd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:46] <seatouch> !ident
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ident - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:46] <will_> that's pretty gay
[11:46] <SEJeff> !xinetd
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xinetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:46] <ardchoille> !fishing
[11:46] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[11:46] <seatouch> lol
[11:46] <will_> I enabled xgl or composite or w.e in xorg
[11:46] <will_> and now compiz causes gnome and xgl sessions to restart x as soon as it finishes loading
[11:46] <will_> I had to load kde session
[11:46] <seatouch> anyone know a good ident server ?
[11:47] <utab> Gnonthgol : any suggestions for my problem
[11:47] <BHSPitMonkey> hey
[11:48] <red|rain> hey BHSPitMonkey :)
[11:48] <BHSPitMonkey> in livecd mode, can you install packages with apt? (in RAM)
[11:48] <sethk> utab, that looks like a bad download
[11:48] <sethk> utab, did you try to repeat it?
[11:48] <|thunder> Seantater, just get x-chat
[11:48] <utab> sethk : many times
[11:48] <|thunder> Seantater, its built in
[11:48] <sethk> utab, sorry, just got here.
[11:48] <seatouch> well can anyon tell me a good ident server ?
[11:49] <Seantater> |thunder: me?
[11:49] <|thunder> any thgught on why wine is auto minimizing the first window in a multi-window app, and you cant un-minimize it at all?
[11:49] <utab> sethk : I am at the university and the connection is quite fast
[11:49] <sethk> utab, you may need to delete the corrupt file
[11:49] <Seantater> |thunder: do I need x-chat?
[11:49] <red|rain> BHSPitMonkey, I don't think you can but you could try.
[11:49] <mdjake> hello
[11:49] <sethk> utab, possibly apt-get is saying "I don't need to download that, I already have it"
[11:49] <red|rain> mdjake, hey :)
[11:49] <mdjake> I need help with slab
[11:49] <|thunder> Seantater, no, but if you use it you dont need an ident server.
[11:49] <Seantater> |thunder: I perfer konversation, and it's what's built-in for Kubuntu
[11:49] <mdjake> if somebody uses it here...
[11:49] <tapas> hrm..
[11:49] <Seantater> |thunder: i'm being sarcastic
[11:49] <Seantater> |thunder: I doubt I;m the one you are intending to talkt ot
[11:50] <sethk> utab, I'm looking more closely, this may be something else entirely
[11:50] <|thunder> sarcasim is hard to convey in text
[11:50] <mdjake> slab = Suse 10 Menu
[11:50] <Seantater> |thunder: yes it is
[11:50] <y0rgos> Tamale, how can i help you?
[11:50] <Gnonthgol> I got this realy long error in scons and can not get the first lines of the error. Does anyone have an idea?
[11:50] <Ropechoborra> My pc is a little slow... and its a celeron 2.0 390 MB of ram ... any ideas why could be that ?? (im not runing any heavy programs..) just Gaim, amarok and xChat..
[11:50] <mdjake> does anybody use it here?
[11:50] <__mikem> I have a bunch of drm protected m4v files I want to convert to a format which I can burn to dvd, but I have no idea how to use mencoder, does anyone know how
[11:50] <|thunder> Seantater, you were the one that wanted an ident server , yes ?
[11:50] <utab> sethk : I am having these update problems from the first day I started to use ubuntu
[11:50] <Seantater> |thunder: nope, not me
[11:50] <red|rain> Ropechoborra, what are you use Gnome or KDE??
[11:50] <|thunder> Seantater, my bad
[11:50] <Ropechoborra> Gnome
[11:51] <|thunder> by bad. that was seatouch
[11:51] <Seantater> |thunder: :)
[11:51] <Warbo> __mikem: I can use Mencoder, but would it work with encrypted stuff?
[11:51] <utab> sethk I am trying to upgrade eventually
[11:51] <seatouch> heh
[11:51] <red|rain> Ropechoborra, ahh try XFCE gnome is a memory hog search synaptic for xubuntu-desktop
[11:51] <seatouch> |thunder never mind found it nyways
[11:51] <Gnonthgol> Ropechoborra: Ithink your PC is slow because it is a Celeron
[11:51] <mdjake> my problem is that only 6 favourite applications shows up no matter how much I add to the gnome-main-menu
[11:52] <Ropechoborra> Gnonthgol but... it wasnt so slow in windows =/ =S
[11:52] <utab> how to change the color of messages that are written for me
[11:52] <red|rain> Gnonthgol, Celerons rock!!
[11:52] <__mikem> warbo, mplayer can read the files
[11:52] <Ropechoborra> red|rain how would the command be?
[11:52] <utab> sethk: are you in Belgium
[11:52] <sobieski> !soundblaster
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundblaster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <Tear> best mp3 player?
[11:53] <red|rain> Ropechoborra, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:53] <sethk> utab, no, in usa
[11:53] <Ropechoborra> Tear Try amarok
[11:53] <jatt> amarok
[11:53] <utab> Tear: amarok
[11:53] <mdjake> does anybody use Dapper here with some eyecandy like xgl/compiz and SLED menu?
[11:53] <sobieski> !sound
[11:53] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:53] <Gnonthgol> AmoroK rocks
[11:53] <pequatre> _mikem, maybe with vlc, "open file (advanced)" and check "output stream" or somethg
[11:53] <sethk> utab, can you try to dowload, manually, one of the "failed to fetch" files listed at the end?
[11:53] <Warbo> __mikem: Oh, OK. Do you want to convert them directly to an MPEG2 format for DVD, or just get them into a non-DRM format? (Basically, I always use Xvid, so I don't know the exact syntax for MPEG2)
[11:53] <sethk> utab, have you already tried that?
[11:53] <tamale> Which instructions should I use for installing the latest nvidia drivers?
[11:53] <scrappy_> Tear: if you want something like winamp then xmms amarok is nice but bloated
[11:53] <utab> sethk: no
[11:53] <__mikem> Warbo, I want them to go dirrectly to MPEG2
[11:53] <Arcane_NH> just d/led both the x86 and AMD 64 versions.  Each time it dies when attempting to mount the root file system.  Something about the hdc ide, expected NULL result.
[11:53] <|thunder> tamale, just use automatix
[11:54] <sethk> utab, try it, I'd like to see if the resulting file will uncompress
[11:54] <|thunder> that way you dont have to mess with xorg
[11:54] <tamale> |thunder:   You sure?
[11:54] <Warbo> __mikem: Ah, well I know the general syntax, but the manual page is too HUGE to find the option names
[11:54] <utab> sethk can you help me how to do that
[11:54] <sethk> utab, I pop in and out depending on what's going on here, but I'll try to pop back shortly
[11:54] <Gnonthgol> I got this realy long error in scons and can not get the first lines of the error. Does anyone have an idea?
[11:54] <|thunder> tamale, its what i always use. works great
[11:54] <sethk> utab, sure, paste the url into  your browser
[11:54] <__mikem> Warbo, I can settle for just stripping the drm
[11:54] <tamale> |thunder:  I'm not scared of editing xorg.conf by hand
[11:54] <sethk> utab, line 072 of your post is the first url to try
[11:55] <tamale> |thunder:  Doesn't automatix install a lot of other things too
[11:55] <killdashnine> hi all
[11:55] <sethk> utab, there is an extra space in the URL, so remove it (on that line between restric and ted/binary)
[11:55] <red|rain> killdashnine, hi :)
[11:55] <Ropechoborra> red|rain what did u say it does??
[11:55] <|thunder> if you install with just apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx you have to switch to the nvidia from mesa manully and there is no config applet. if you use automatix you get the config app
[11:55] <Warbo> "mencoder -oac <audio format> -ovc <video format> -<video format>opts <option>=<value>,<option>=<value>,etc -<audio format>opts <option>=<value>,etc -o <output file> <input file>"
[11:55] <TheGateKeeper> tamale: editing by hand is far safer, automatrix is more likely to break things
[11:55] <|thunder> tamale, installs what you select.
[11:56] <red|rain> RobNyc_C, it will install the XFCE desktop which is good on systems with low cpu and/or ram www.xfce.org
[11:56] <tamale> |thunder:  Well, we already did the apt-get for nvidia-glx and it didn't work
[11:56] <tamale> |thunder:  Will using automatix now work?
[11:56] <TheGateKeeper> !xorg
[11:56] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:56] <utab> sethk I pasted and removed the space
[11:56] <TheGateKeeper> tamale: ^^^^
[11:56] <Gnonthgol> Can someone pleese ask me what my problem is?
[11:56] <|thunder> tamale, you need nvidia-kernel-common too
[11:56] <y0rgos> Guys im having a hell of a time trying to get my auto syncronize time working.. it never grabs the real time
[11:56] <Ropechoborra> red|rain is it something like gnome or kde?
[11:56] <ravenous> anyone know if k3n supports .img offhand?
[11:56] <sethk> utab, ok, did you get the file?
[11:56] <ardchoille> tamale: automatix is quite ot for this channel. it isn't supported or recommended
[11:56] <ravenous> k3b even
[11:56] <utab> sethk nothing happens
[11:56] <red|rain> Ropechoborra, yep
[11:57] <gnomefreak> Gnonthgol: just tell us your problem if someone knows they will help you
[11:57] <|thunder> tamale, 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx'
[11:57] <Warbo> For example I usually use something like: "mencoder -oac mp3lame -ovc xvid -xvidencopts bitrate=256 -lameopts br=64 -o output.avi input.mpeg"
[11:57] <Gnonthgol> I got this realy long error in scons and can not get the first lines of the error. Does anyone have an idea?
[11:57] <tamale> ardchoille Can you help then?
[11:57] <ardchoille> tamale: No with automatix
[11:57] <__mikem> Warbo, thanks
[11:57] <__mikem> hold that thought I need to go to dinner
[11:57] <sobieski> I have ubuntu in swedish, how can i find "Multimedia Systems Selector"?
[11:57] <Warbo> __mikem: "br=64" may be "b=64"
[11:58] <|thunder> tamale, if your get these two packages and modify xorg, it will work with openGL
[11:58] <utab> sethk: I can not download that
[11:58] <TheGateKeeper> sobieski: for firefox?
[11:58] <sethk> utab, do the url without Packages.gz.  I just tried that here and I get a list of files.  se if you get the list
[11:58] <tamale> |thunder:  I'm pretty sure that's exactly what i did, but upon restarting X nothign came up
[11:58] <tamale> the monitor was in standby
[11:58] <existance> The mic on my headset isn't working with 'Sound Recorder' could someone direct me to some resources to fix it?
[11:58] <sethk> utab, it's interesting that there is no Packages.gz file in that directory.
[11:58] <bluefox83> where can i find video codecs like debian's w32codecs?
[11:58] <|thunder> tamale, how old is the card ?
[11:59] <tamale> it's a 7900 GT
[11:59] <sethk> utab, that suggests an error in your dpkg database somewhere.
[11:59] <sobieski> TheGateKeeper:  the how to says System > Preferences > Multimedia Systems Selector
[11:59] <Warbo> !w32codecs
[11:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:59] <|thunder> bluefox83, try #automatix
[11:59] <ardchoille> tamale: The first thing I recommend you do is open a term and type:  sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak   <-- that will make a backup of it just in case.
[11:59] <tamale> ardchoille:  Done
[11:59] <utab> sethk what next
[11:59] <TheGateKeeper> sobieski: misinterpreted sorry, probable need to ask someone who use gnome
[12:00] <killdashnine> i am trying to get samba to work with standard ubuntu repositories but both binary and hand compiled source packages segfault. i even tried a subversion source compile which resulted in the same behavior. any reason why this should happen? i have never seen samba do this before and it worked perfectly fine with 5.10
[12:00] <sethk> utab, let me look around a bit.  I'll be back in a few minutes.
[12:00] <utab> sethk thx for the interest
[12:00] <evan_w00> im so lost in linux... so users can only manipulate folders in their home?
[12:00] <existance> The mic on my headset isn't working with 'Sound Recorder' could someone direct me to some resources to fix it?
[12:00] <|thunder> evan_w00, yep.
[12:00] <sobieski> TheGateKeeper: could you tell me what the icon for "Multimedia Systems Selector" is
[12:00] <sethk> utab, ok.  Let me make sure I'm interpreting this correctly.
[12:00] <Arcane_NH> Hey guys I can't get ubuntu to fully start from the CD-rom