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| xwind_ | Is there a way to prevent users from doing a reboot or shutdown at the terminal/thinclient? | 12:24 |
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| lucasvo | xwind_: dapper fixed this bug | 12:24 |
| lucasvo | xwind_: If you upgrade to dapper it should work | 12:24 |
| xwind_ | i have dapper. Is this controlled by a config file? which one? | 12:25 |
| lucasvo | xwind_: well if you log out from gnome afaik the only option is log out, no halt or reboot | 12:26 |
| lucasvo | xwind_: I can't tell you more, I don't know much about it | 12:26 |
| xwind_ | so it appears that this the default setup. | 12:26 |
| pygi | lucasvo, it wasn't fixed I think | 12:26 |
| pygi | you can switch to upstream dialog tho which kinda fixes it | 12:27 |
| pygi | (gconf key) | 12:27 |
| xwind_ | can i disable the shutdown and reboot functions of thinclient users instead? | 12:29 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 04:08 |
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| crimsun | hmm, pyweek looks really cool, actually. | 06:18 |
| LaserJock | cool | 06:20 |
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| crimsun | d'oh, need to fix pygame first. | 06:21 |
| Burgundavia | crimsun: that is does. Too bad it uses sdl and thus excludes it from main | 06:24 |
| crimsun | erm... | 06:24 |
| crimsun | libsdl1.2debian | 1.2.10-3ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages | 06:24 |
| crimsun | libsdl1.2 | 1.2.10-3ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Sources | 06:24 |
| Burgundavia | oh, wait | 06:24 |
| Burgundavia | hmm | 06:25 |
| Burgundavia | in other news --> | 06:25 |
| crimsun | lovely weather! | 06:25 |
| Burgundavia | http://ubuntu-ca.org/why-gnome-brochure.pdf | 06:25 |
| Burgundavia | the delay was due to the wrong url in my clipbaord | 06:25 |
| Burgundavia | crimsun: give me feedback, dammit. You too LaserJock | 06:28 |
| LaserJock | lol | 06:29 |
| LaserJock | Burgundavia: the Gnome foot falls off the bottom here | 06:30 |
| Burgundavia | LaserJock: rendering bug due to conversion to pdf with inkscape 0.43. Not a major issue | 06:31 |
| Burgundavia | 0.44 solves all those | 06:31 |
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| Burgundavia | hey highvoltage, long time, no see | 07:52 |
| highvoltage | hey Burgundavia | 07:55 |
| highvoltage | yes, been catching up with my personal life last week | 07:55 |
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| RichEd | morning ... | 08:39 |
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| RichEd | hello highvoltage | 09:08 |
| highvoltage | hello RichEd | 09:09 |
| RichEd | this winter seems to be making up for the last few years meager rainfalls | 09:10 |
| RichEd | wuold have been faster to take my kids to school in a rubber duckie this morning | 09:11 |
| highvoltage | it wasn't /that/ bad :) | 09:12 |
| highvoltage | the lightning was cool though | 09:12 |
| cbx33 | Mornin all | 09:15 |
| highvoltage | morning cbx33! | 09:24 |
| cbx33 | MOrning HiVoLtAgE | 09:25 |
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| cbx33 | RichEd, can I aska question | 09:29 |
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| RichEd | sure cbx33 ... just back from a spontaneous XTalk quit ... strange behaviour on my machine today | 09:29 |
| cbx33 | heh | 09:30 |
| cbx33 | um, you know I'm working on the new UbuntuSounds? | 09:30 |
| RichEd | yessir | 09:30 |
| cbx33 | Well, Troy_s and I decided we think the palette is large enough to show to "higher up" people | 09:30 |
| RichEd | sounds god ;) | 09:31 |
| RichEd | good i mean :P | 09:31 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 09:31 |
| cbx33 | Troy reckons it should be brought up at a CC meeting for peole to look at | 09:31 |
| cbx33 | So I talked to Frank Schoep, the artwork chief | 09:31 |
| cbx33 | and he seemed a little unsure about what the CC meeting is for | 09:31 |
| RichEd | CC meeting .. new lingo for me ... expand ? | 09:31 |
| cbx33 | what would you recommend? | 09:31 |
| cbx33 | the community council meeting | 09:32 |
| cbx33 | there is one today | 09:32 |
| cbx33 | and I'd like to get some direction | 09:32 |
| cbx33 | from people who will probably be making the decision | 09:32 |
| cbx33 | If you get my drift...just wondered what your opinion was on the matter | 09:33 |
| RichEd | i'm quite new to the decison making process ... give me a bit of background as to the "matter at hand" ... i.e. | 09:34 |
| RichEd | you're doing new sounds ... | 09:34 |
| cbx33 | ok | 09:34 |
| RichEd | who requested them ? | 09:34 |
| RichEd | what is the impact ? | 09:34 |
| cbx33 | exactly, the sounds havn't been changed in at least 2 releases | 09:34 |
| RichEd | how were the sounds initially chosen ? | 09:34 |
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| cbx33 | there was a spec to do them, but nobody has taken it up | 09:34 |
| cbx33 | there is an ubuntu-audio team....but it seems really dead | 09:35 |
| cbx33 | troy/frank think that the sounds fall under artwork jurisdiction | 09:35 |
| cbx33 | everyone in artwork seems happy with the way the sounds are going | 09:35 |
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| cbx33 | I'm unsure how they were originally chosen | 09:35 |
| cbx33 | I wasn't around then | 09:35 |
| RichEd | q: how often does the CC meet ? | 09:35 |
| cbx33 | an Ubuntu n00b really | 09:35 |
| cbx33 | once a week i think? | 09:36 |
| RichEd | q: are your sounds for Edubuntu or Ubuntu | 09:36 |
| cbx33 | Ubuntu, with the option of possibly creatign a distinct sound for edubuntu too | 09:36 |
| RichEd | so if you want to take the gentle approval route ... how about: | 09:38 |
| RichEd | 1) you table the request for consideration at today's meeting | 09:38 |
| RichEd | 2) you get names of people who want to listen & offer opinion | 09:38 |
| RichEd | 3) send them an email, with sounds (or links) an a voting option | 09:39 |
| RichEd | 4) include : "leave sounds as is" as an option | 09:39 |
| cbx33 | of course | 09:39 |
| cbx33 | ok, thank you RichEd | 09:39 |
| cbx33 | should I modify the CC meeting Agenda? | 09:40 |
| RichEd | 5) let them know that next meeting, you will discuss results of voting ? | 09:40 |
| RichEd | ... in that way, it is fair, everyone who is actually intersted can sample, and there is a "paper trail" for the decision | 09:40 |
| RichEd | i'd say yes ... so today, you introduce the decision process ... and tell people next meeting is decision actual | 09:41 |
| RichEd | imho of course | 09:41 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 09:42 |
| cbx33 | ok, np | 09:42 |
| willvdl | RichEd: Do you know anything of the African Virtual University? | 09:44 |
| RichEd | willvdl: i've comea cross the name before ... but can't say i've dug very deep | 09:45 |
| RichEd | it would be a good discussion topic for Duncan Greaves (TENET) ... | 09:46 |
| willvdl | hmmm. Seems to be one of the e-commission areas | 09:46 |
| willvdl | e-learning in general that is. | 09:46 |
| RichEd | browse around http://www.tenet.ac.za/ when you get a chance ... we must set up a meeting with Duncan soon ... overlap with TENET & NEPAD countries | 09:47 |
| RichEd | re: http://www.avu.org/ check if there is "any recommended place to buy hardware" etc. how do they expect their students to get up & connected | 09:50 |
| RichEd | we may be able to provide an Edubuntu / Ubuntu OEM link ? just a thought ... same thing for UNISA etc. | 09:50 |
| willvdl | funny how they've never really been mentioned around e-schools, yet in a NEPAD context, they are there to support them | 09:53 |
| willvdl | will dig some more | 09:53 |
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| cbx33 | RichEd, all sorted | 10:08 |
| RichEd | 100's | 10:09 |
| RichEd | send me the sample email ... i'll give them a listen ... also let me know what your thoughts are about extending changes to edubuntu | 10:10 |
| cbx33 | RichEd, you said to meet up again today regarding the ESA/pack idea | 10:24 |
| RichEd | cbx33: meeting with willvdl face-to-face to flesh out a project plan ... that's moved to tomorrow ... will update you with framework when agreed & then will add ESA in as Task#1 | 10:34 |
| RichEd | will be adding Burgundavia & tuXlabs Edubuntu choice as Task#2 | 10:35 |
| RichEd | in the meanwhile, for yours, can you think of the respective audiences we need to target ? | 10:35 |
| RichEd | short & sweet versions to: | 10:35 |
| RichEd | 1) school IT admin | 10:36 |
| RichEd | 2) school teacher | 10:36 |
| RichEd | 3) education department decision maker | 10:36 |
| RichEd | ?? | 10:36 |
| cbx33 | ok | 10:37 |
| cbx33 | I'll have a think | 10:37 |
| cbx33 | are you talking about seperate versions to those audicences? targetted? | 10:41 |
| cbx33 | the main point of the ESA was for it to be useful to all groups, but we could possibly pull out some sectiosn and add others | 10:41 |
| RichEd | i would say 1) general ... full version | 10:51 |
| RichEd | 2) 2 pager (i.e. 1 double side) quick read for each audience | 10:51 |
| RichEd | where each 2 pager refers to links to: | 10:52 |
| RichEd | a) the full doc ... in a format that can be printed on site | 10:52 |
| RichEd | b) the short versions ... in a format that can be printed on site | 10:52 |
| RichEd | i.e. if someone responds well to the short version (ideal for conference hand-out) they are able to print & distrubute & thereby evangelise for us when they get back to home turf | 10:53 |
| cbx33 | ok sounds good | 10:53 |
| cbx33 | When ESA first started, the sections were titled with questions, do you think this is appropriate for the school teacher/decision maker targetting? | 10:54 |
| RichEd | lets get the main version complete and agreed to by all ... then we need to examine the value equation = buttons to push for each audience type | 10:57 |
| RichEd | it is important to address the issues that affect them ... those are what they will respond to | 10:57 |
| RichEd | general hypotehetical question & answer may not be a effective | 10:57 |
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| cbx33 | RichEd, true | 11:03 |
| RichEd | 'lo again highvoltage : can we try for that meeting tomorrow ? | 11:04 |
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| cbx33 | hi ogra | 11:42 |
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| RichEd | (i've got to take my son to the physio ... so i'll be on a long lunch hour today) | 12:08 |
| willvdl | 3G...way of the future :) | 12:09 |
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| cbx33 | ping ogra | 12:20 |
| ogra | pong | 12:20 |
| cbx33 | ogra, how is scp development | 12:20 |
| ogra | nonexistent | 12:21 |
| cbx33 | I was going to setup an edubuntu server system here so I can work on it | 12:22 |
| ogra | i'm working on local devices | 12:22 |
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| cbx33 | ok | 12:22 |
| cbx33 | I'll try and jump in on some | 12:22 |
| cbx33 | can I ask a question | 12:22 |
| ogra | sure | 12:23 |
| cbx33 | I have my router acting as a DHCP server at the mo, which I am reluctant to stop | 12:23 |
| cbx33 | is there a way to tell a client to use a specific DHCP server? | 12:23 |
| cbx33 | or do I have to start looking into using virtual networks on vmware? | 12:23 |
| cbx33 | only trouble is I want one machien to be a real machine ....see how complicated this gets? | 12:25 |
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| ogra | get two NIS | 12:26 |
| ogra | *NICs | 12:26 |
| cbx33 | yeh, I suppose that's the only way | 12:26 |
| cbx33 | and the only trouble I only have one here | 12:26 |
| cbx33 | ogra you got two secs in a pm? | 12:26 |
| ogra | make one act as dhcp client at your router and the other one as thin client dhcp server | 12:26 |
| cbx33 | yeh | 12:26 |
| cbx33 | I'll borrow one from work tomorrow | 12:26 |
| ogra | shoot | 12:26 |
| rodarvus | gcj is rocking my planet | 12:38 |
| rodarvus | due to gc brokeness, apt-get wants to remove about 12 packages during dist-upgrade :) | 12:38 |
| ogra | fun :) | 12:38 |
| rodarvus | s/gc/gcj/ | 12:39 |
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| rodarvus | also I'm unable to read my emails since last Friday | 12:39 |
| ogra | evo ? | 12:40 |
| rodarvus | yup | 12:40 |
| rodarvus | I've seen seb128's email yesterday | 12:40 |
| ogra | did you try to upgrade only the vo related packages ? | 12:40 |
| ogra | *evo | 12:40 |
| ogra | that meant only that evo ftbfs through firefox breakage | 12:41 |
| ogra | shouldnt affect end users | 12:41 |
| ogra | the evo packages are often out of sync during devel releases | 12:41 |
| rodarvus | no, evolution is broken due to libnss3 being rather different since firefox 1.5 | 12:42 |
| rodarvus | seb128 was unable to recompile evolution (ftbfs) and could not find and fixes until now | 12:42 |
| ogra | but there was no evolution upload since the firefox one ... | 12:43 |
| rodarvus | s/and/any/ | 12:43 |
| ogra | it cant be linked against the new libnss3 yet | 12:43 |
| rodarvus | yes, because evolution fails to build :) | 12:43 |
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| cbx33 | ogra, you know you said about indexing on the usplash image ?? | 01:17 |
| cbx33 | is there any doc/person who knows about it | 01:17 |
| ogra | ubuntu-art :) | 01:18 |
| cbx33 | ok | 01:18 |
| cbx33 | ogra does this apply to us https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/ChangeUsplash | 01:31 |
| ogra | cbx33, really, no idea ... | 01:33 |
| ogra | there were a lot of changes in edgy | 01:33 |
| cbx33 | who would know where we are with usplash | 01:33 |
| ogra | ubuntu-art | 01:33 |
| cbx33 | lisa wants to redesign it, but we need to know techinical constraints | 01:34 |
| ogra | they know it ... | 01:34 |
| ogra | or mjg59 for deeper tech knowledge | 01:34 |
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| cbx33 | ogra, is ubiquity faster to install that d-i ? | 02:28 |
| ogra | in edubuntu, yes ... | 02:28 |
| ogra | indeed | 02:29 |
| highvoltage | where would ubiquity be slower than d-i? | 02:30 |
| pygi | ogra, care to promote libburn and stuff? I need testing for libburn-over-cdrecord layer | 02:30 |
| pygi | meaning altought apps think they use cdrecord, they use libburn | 02:30 |
| cbx33 | sorry I'm just using the edubuntu shipit cd, and noting the difference in install times between that and the ubuntu one | 02:30 |
| highvoltage | pygi: wow, that sounds cool | 02:37 |
| pygi | highvoltage, :) | 02:38 |
| highvoltage | cdrecord is really painful | 02:40 |
| pygi | highvoltage, indeed, but perhaps never we'll have a solid replacement | 02:41 |
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| highvoltage | :( | 02:41 |
| pygi | highvoltage, I am not skilled enough to implement fine-grained stuff in libburn, altought I will implement stuff that I am able to, ofcourse | 02:42 |
| pygi | and contributors are mostly non-existant (altought we have few people interested in libburn) | 02:43 |
| highvoltage | i previously thought that there was a big group of people working on libburn, and that it would naturally eventually replace cdrecord :( | 02:44 |
| pygi | highvoltage, the libburn development was stopped two years ago | 02:44 |
| highvoltage | geepers :/ | 02:45 |
| pygi | highvoltage, so that's why I need promotion ^_^ | 02:47 |
| highvoltage | yeah | 02:47 |
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| DrkLrd | hi guys | 02:48 |
| DrkLrd | its ajayc here | 02:48 |
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| DrkLrd | finally am showing off edubuntu at our school science exhibiton | 02:48 |
| DrkLrd | someone will surely notice | 02:48 |
| DrkLrd | :) | 02:48 |
| DrkLrd | sup pygi | 02:48 |
| pygi | DrkLrd, fighting with libburn stuff ^_^ | 02:49 |
| DrkLrd | lol | 02:50 |
| DrkLrd | now i am ready to contribute | 02:50 |
| DrkLrd | exams over | 02:50 |
| DrkLrd | yipeeee!!! | 02:50 |
| DrkLrd | and first step to distribute edubuntu and ubuntu cd | 02:50 |
| pygi | eh ^_^ | 02:50 |
| DrkLrd | and showcase edubuntu excellently at school exhibition | 02:50 |
| DrkLrd | any tips? | 02:50 |
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| DrkLrd | sorry | 02:55 |
| DrkLrd | missed it | 02:55 |
| DrkLrd | ah so any tips? | 02:55 |
| DrkLrd | pygi, ? | 02:56 |
| DrkLrd | ogra, ? | 02:56 |
| pygi | DrkLrd, who are you trying to impress? :) | 02:57 |
| DrkLrd | everyone :D | 02:57 |
| DrkLrd | and to do something for edubuntu | 02:58 |
| DrkLrd | and not be a freeloader :D | 02:58 |
| RichEd | willvdl: you dere ? | 03:01 |
| willvdl | yip | 03:02 |
| === RichEd is wrapping an email thread ... (SchoolTool) ... and will be ready to chat after getting some coffee in around 10 mins | ||
| RichEd | okay with that ? | 03:02 |
| willvdl | okie. shall we pm? | 03:02 |
| pygi | RichEd, not for you :P | 03:02 |
| RichEd | yep ... will ping you here and hive off ... | 03:02 |
| willvdl | 10-9-8- | 03:03 |
| DrkLrd | no tips? :( | 03:03 |
| RichEd | pygi: pray explain that comment ? | 03:03 |
| pygi | RichEd, eh, nothing, sorry :) | 03:03 |
| RichEd | DrkLrd: i can help ... when do you present ? | 03:03 |
| DrkLrd | edubuntu | 03:04 |
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| RichEd | :) | 03:04 |
| DrkLrd | pay? never mate | 03:04 |
| DrkLrd | linux rocks! | 03:04 |
| DrkLrd | though linspire sucks | 03:04 |
| DrkLrd | i will get that work done | 03:05 |
| RichEd | why does linspire suck ? just interested | 03:05 |
| DrkLrd | tell me how do i get actively involved in edubuntu | 03:05 |
| RichEd | <RichEd> DrkLrd: i can help ... when do you present ? | 03:05 |
| DrkLrd | RichEd, CNR and its commercial | 03:05 |
| DrkLrd | RichEd, maybe in 2 weeks | 03:05 |
| DrkLrd | got it! http://www.edubuntu.org/UsingEdubuntu | 03:06 |
| RichEd | okay ... bit of a rush then ... and where ? CNR <- wot's dis den | 03:06 |
| RichEd | and whats the difference between CNR and "and showcase edubuntu excellently at school exhibition" | 03:06 |
| DrkLrd | notin | 03:06 |
| DrkLrd | i just said linspire sucks cos it has CNR | 03:07 |
| pygi | DrkLrd, we have klik! | 03:07 |
| DrkLrd | pygi, i know mate ! that is why CNR sucks! | 03:08 |
| DrkLrd | ok what about participating actively? | 03:09 |
| RichEd | so whats CNR ... please deacronmyate into laymans english ! | 03:09 |
| DrkLrd | i see edubuntu has less no. of users here | 03:09 |
| RichEd | where is here ? | 03:09 |
| DrkLrd | RichEd, its a paid service for Applications and various packages | 03:09 |
| DrkLrd | #edubuntu | 03:09 |
| DrkLrd | :P | 03:09 |
| pygi | RichEd, http://www.linspire.com/cnr_router.php | 03:10 |
| pygi | "our" counterpart: http://klik.atekon.de/ | 03:11 |
| RichEd | okay ... now I understand what you are saying, but don't baste "the evil brush" around too widely :) income is needed for actual work to make the economy go around ... but that is a big topic to tackle now ... | 03:11 |
| RichEd | right .. let me lay out a quick plan :) | 03:12 |
| cbx33 | ping rodarvus | 03:12 |
| RichEd | DrkLrd: give me 5 mins to wrap my email thread & get a coffee | 03:12 |
| rodarvus | cbx33, pong | 03:12 |
| willvdl | before he pings me :) | 03:12 |
| RichEd | willvdl: give me 15 minutes to harness DrkLrd to the Edubuntu yolk | 03:12 |
| cbx33 | rodarvus, how much you know about scp? | 03:13 |
| rodarvus | little | 03:13 |
| RichEd | DrkLrd: I'm the new Education Programme Manager ... I am very intersted in helping you to help us ... deal ? | 03:13 |
| rodarvus | ogra wrote it | 03:13 |
| cbx33 | I know, just wondering if I'm ok to develop on dapper | 03:13 |
| willvdl | hmm, linspire screenshots look pretty | 03:13 |
| rodarvus | cbx33, quite probably, unless you're going to depend on any edgy-only feature | 03:14 |
| rodarvus | such as local devices support | 03:14 |
| cbx33 | no yet I'm not | 03:15 |
| rodarvus | cbx33, best to coordinate your efforts with ogra, though | 03:15 |
| cbx33 | yes I was but then he went awol :p | 03:15 |
| rodarvus | to make sure you two won't be doing the same thing at the same time :) | 03:15 |
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| cbx33 | ogra has done nothing...he already told me :p | 03:16 |
| cbx33 | hence why I'm trying to help out | 03:16 |
| cbx33 | he's too busy with local devices | 03:16 |
| rodarvus | nice | 03:16 |
| RichEd | DrkLrd: right mail is wrapped ... getting my coffee ... can we move to a pvt window ? | 03:16 |
| rodarvus | we have a spec (under review I think) for scp | 03:16 |
| rodarvus | have you looked there, already? | 03:16 |
| cbx33 | yes | 03:16 |
| cbx33 | I'm fixing a few bugs first | 03:17 |
| rodarvus | nice | 03:17 |
| cbx33 | crikey edubuntu is FAST in vmware | 03:17 |
| RichEd | hi rodarvus : haven't said a decent hello to you today :) | 03:17 |
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| rodarvus | RichEd, hi there :) | 03:18 |
| rodarvus | I need to make a test locally (which can possibly crash my machine) | 03:19 |
| rodarvus | so if it happens in the next 20-30 minutes, you know why :) | 03:19 |
| RichEd | willvdl: damn ... gotta go out for a collection - 30 mins ... can we shift to 4:00pm ? | 03:24 |
| willvdl | no problemo | 03:25 |
| willvdl | gives me time to get my spreadsheet neater :) | 03:25 |
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| cbx33 | ogra, pm about scp :p | 03:28 |
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| sbalneav | Morning all!! | 03:42 |
| sbalneav | ogra: Hey, dude, got your email! | 03:42 |
| === ogra has a *very* bad day today ... | ||
| ogra | totally annoyed | 03:43 |
| sbalneav | Whats up? Not with me, I hope? :) | 03:44 |
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| sbalneav | Whats up? Not with me, I hope? :) <-- Don't know wether you caught that before logoff :) | 03:45 |
| ogra | sbalneav, no, indeed not with you, but i seem not to be able to type more than one sentence without my network completely dying | 03:45 |
| ogra | seems all wlan routers went mad here over night | 03:45 |
| sbalneav | Ooh, that's a bummer. | 03:45 |
| willvdl | it's Monday, don't be so hard on yourself :\ | 03:46 |
| ogra | well, its nearly 4pm, i havent done *any* work yet ... cant get my mail and want to have ltsp localdev done by thursday | 03:47 |
| sbalneav | can you mail out? Send me what you've got. I'll work with you this week and give you a hand. | 03:47 |
| ogra | i'm not hard to myself ... but i'm near trying to accelerate that linksys AP to lightspeed to see what happens if it hits the wall | 03:48 |
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| ogra | sbalneav, ther is nothing to work on atm, we need pitti aboard to get the pmount patch in ... | 03:48 |
| ogra | gnome-vfs is no option because it would restrict us to gnome | 03:49 |
| cbx33 | ogra, pmount for unionfs? | 03:49 |
| cbx33 | he keeps doing that :p | 03:49 |
| sbalneav | I think it's his router that keeps verlassending things :) | 03:49 |
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| sbalneav | wb :) | 03:50 |
| cbx33 | ogra, your net connec tio nseems bad today | 03:50 |
| cbx33 | so deso my space bar | 03:50 |
| ogra | sbalneav, we need to discuss it with pitti (which is quite hard for me without being able to type more than a few sentences) | 03:51 |
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| ogra | sbalneav, did you try the bind mount ` | 03:51 |
| ogra | ? | 03:51 |
| sbalneav | ogra: How would the sudo bit be handled? Would we put something in sudoers that would require no password to be entered, or when a user plugs in a memory stick, would it need a password? | 03:52 |
| sbalneav | ogra: I'll play with it today/night | 03:52 |
| sbalneav | brb, work ping... | 03:53 |
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| sbalneav | would adding it to pmount make it so that the user wouldn't need to do a sudo? | 03:57 |
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| sbalneav | would adding it to pmount make it so that the user wouldn't need to do a sudo? | 04:01 |
| sbalneav | Poor Ollie | 04:01 |
| ogra_ | yep | 04:01 |
| ogra_ | we dont want sudo | 04:01 |
| sbalneav | right. | 04:01 |
| sbalneav | Want me to talk to pitti? | 04:01 |
| ogra_ | try it :) | 04:02 |
| sbalneav | okie | 04:02 |
| ogra_ | as i said, he wants it to be a gnome-vfs change | 04:02 |
| ogra_ | but then we cant support KDE/XFCE | 04:02 |
| ogra_ | would not be a real upstream solution :) | 04:02 |
| RichEd | ping willvdl | 04:08 |
| willvdl | pong | 04:09 |
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| jsgotangco | hi! | 04:11 |
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| sbalneav | morning jsgotangco | 04:14 |
| jsgotangco | hi scott! | 04:15 |
| sbalneav | ogra: ok, so suid scripts it is. | 04:16 |
| ogra | well, yes | 04:17 |
| ogra | i'm not really happy with the fact that we need one ... but there is no way around it seems | 04:18 |
| sbalneav | That's ok, solves the problem. | 04:18 |
| sbalneav | You know that the colours orange and yellow make you hungry, right? That's why fast food places all use those colours. If you've got an orangey office, I predict lots of snacking while coding :) | 04:19 |
| ogra | well, its a security issue we always have to regard | 04:19 |
| sbalneav | yeah, this is true. No strcpy's allowed. | 04:20 |
| ogra | i'd have preferred to have it included in pmount, so it gets pittis attention every release automatically | 04:21 |
| ogra | but we cant force him :) | 04:21 |
| cbx33 | ogra, do you konw if there is any chance of loop mounting getting included in pmount? | 04:22 |
| cbx33 | so i could use it in gisomount | 04:24 |
| ogra | unlikely | 04:24 |
| ogra | same security probs as bind mounting has | 04:24 |
| RichEd | willvdl: did a window open up with some mesages from me ? | 04:24 |
| ogra | but you could steal the wrapper we will have to write for ltspfs | 04:24 |
| sbalneav | ogra: how's your mad C coding skilz? Want me to code the wrapper? | 04:25 |
| ogra | and just replace --bind with --loop ;) | 04:25 |
| ogra | i'm very bad in C | 04:25 |
| sbalneav | ok | 04:25 |
| ogra | its enough to write patches but my code usually is horrible | 04:25 |
| sbalneav | I can do it. | 04:25 |
| willvdl | RichEd: are my replies not getting to you? | 04:25 |
| ogra | btw, tel me why you think that ldm in C would have a smaller mem footprint | 04:26 |
| ogra | *tell | 04:26 |
| Amaranth | i thought you were making a shell script | 04:26 |
| ogra | we still need to keep the theme in memory | 04:26 |
| RichEd | nope ... let me close & open another window | 04:26 |
| sbalneav | So, we want a ltspmount --add and --remove /tmp/somemount to /media/somemount, yes? | 04:26 |
| willvdl | I think it's my gaim client | 04:26 |
| ogra | Amaranth, there are no such things like suid shellscripts ;) | 04:26 |
| ogra | sbalneav, we can hardcode the /tmp/somemount part | 04:27 |
| ogra | and we shuld use hidden dirs in /tmp ... | 04:27 |
| cbx33 | ok ogra thanks | 04:27 |
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| ogra | btw, the vfs'es support subdirs in /media | 04:27 |
| Amaranth | i've got a couple right here...*men in black with swords* aaaaaaah *silence* | 04:27 |
| cbx33 | I swaer I'll never get this far behind again | 04:27 |
| willvdl | I'm getting yours but mine aren't going through... | 04:27 |
| sbalneav | ogra: how? we don't know what the device is going to be called? when it gets plugged in? | 04:27 |
| ogra | so i'd suggest /media/$IP/device | 04:27 |
| RichEd | ahhh ... i'm using XChat have you got that loaded ? | 04:27 |
| willvdl | using Gaim. must be myclient | 04:28 |
| ogra | sbalneav, huh ? indeed we know what its called if udev calls ltspfs | 04:28 |
| willvdl | lemme jsut give you a call. cell OK? | 04:28 |
| Amaranth | ogra: so, i'm starting to think pre-training willowng is a bad idea | 04:29 |
| sbalneav | ogra: argh! Can't type fast enough. What's your phone #, I'll just call you. | 04:29 |
| ogra | sbalneav, voip ? | 04:29 |
| sbalneav | nah, landline. not me paying for it :) | 04:29 |
| ogra | mom | 04:30 |
| sbalneav | work lets me (ab)use the phone for LTSP purposes. | 04:30 |
| ogra | i need to look it up :) | 04:30 |
| ogra | +49 561 521 74 83 (i think) | 04:31 |
| sbalneav | I can talk much faster than I can type :) | 04:43 |
| cbx33 | can I ask | 04:51 |
| cbx33 | who here actually reads/uses the Edubuntu Meeting Minutes? | 04:52 |
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| ogra | me if i need to look up stuff its easier than reading the log | 04:53 |
| ogra | and i guess the guys from the weekly newsletter | 04:53 |
| cbx33 | ok | 04:55 |
| cbx33 | I'll keep on doing them then, they are just pretty time consuming | 04:55 |
| cbx33 | just wondered if people actually used them | 04:56 |
| cbx33 | thanks ogra | 04:56 |
| ogra | well, i personally could use the log ... | 04:56 |
| ogra | but i dont know about the UWN guys | 04:56 |
| cbx33 | ogra if it makes it easier for you :p | 04:56 |
| cbx33 | I'm going to try to get them done same day now | 04:57 |
| cbx33 | I do apologise for my slack approach | 04:57 |
| cbx33 | ogra did I miss your reply to my question about developing scp on dapper? | 04:59 |
| ogra | no, really, i'm fine with reading the logs | 04:59 |
| ogra | but talk to the UWN guys | 04:59 |
| cbx33 | ok | 04:59 |
| cbx33 | is dapper ok for scp development for now? | 04:59 |
| cbx33 | or would edgy be preferable? | 05:00 |
| ogra | dapper is not ok for *any* development | 05:00 |
| ogra | we dont develop for dapper anymore ;) | 05:00 |
| cbx33 | ok | 05:00 |
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| ogra | note that the current ltsp-build-client doesnt run any of the ltsp-update-* scripts atm | 05:02 |
| ogra | you need to run them manually | 05:02 |
| cbx33 | ok | 05:05 |
| cbx33 | this is gonna take a while ;) | 05:08 |
| cbx33 | esp on a vmware machine | 05:08 |
| cbx33 | thanks ogra :p - now "everyone" thinks I'm a dolt :p | 05:13 |
| ogra | heh, sorry | 05:14 |
| cbx33 | I'm j/k | 05:14 |
| cbx33 | ogra, expect some scp updates tonight, I'm hoping to put my few bug fixes into my branch and start working on some of the specs if I get time | 05:15 |
| ogra | great | 05:15 |
| sbalneav | Look at me. Now I can do japanese smileys too! | 05:16 |
| ogra | hehe | 05:16 |
| cbx33 | w00t | 05:16 |
| cbx33 | ogra, when do you think gisomount will make it into universe? | 05:17 |
| sbalneav | ok, gotta head off and buy some ups batteries. be back later | 05:17 |
| cbx33 | or grasynco? | 05:17 |
| cbx33 | c ya sbalneav | 05:17 |
| ogra | isnt it in the NEW queue ? | 05:18 |
| cbx33 | yes | 05:19 |
| cbx33 | 2006-07-17 23:10:06 BST | 05:19 |
| ogra | and which archive admin did you ask to promote/review it ? | 05:19 |
| cbx33 | none? | 05:19 |
| cbx33 | I wasn't told I had to | 05:20 |
| cbx33 | it was approved on REVU | 05:20 |
| cbx33 | and moved into the NEW queue, from there I was under the impression I had to wait till someone was able to do it? | 05:20 |
| cbx33 | is that wrong? | 05:20 |
| ogra | well, usually the person who uploaded cares but if they dont, poke one of the archive admins to review it | 05:21 |
| cbx33 | is there a list of those anywhere? | 05:21 |
| ogra | i.e. Keybuk | 05:21 |
| cbx33 | is this process documented? | 05:21 |
| cbx33 | the whole uploading to universe for the first time thing | 05:21 |
| ogra | no idea | 05:23 |
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| ogra | but if, then it should be on the developer resources wikipage | 05:23 |
| cbx33 | it's a very confusing process | 05:23 |
| cbx33 | yeh | 05:23 |
| cbx33 | ogra, sorry another question | 05:25 |
| cbx33 | you know in a meeting a while back you said ESA should be translated on rosetta? | 05:26 |
| cbx33 | how would one go about doing that? | 05:26 |
| ogra | i think contacting the doc team would be a good start ... i belive you need to have it in docbook first | 05:26 |
| cbx33 | it is in docbook :p | 05:26 |
| cbx33 | it's in the docteams svn repo too | 05:27 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 05:45 |
| cbx33 | hi bddebian | 05:45 |
| cbx33 | deja vu ? | 05:45 |
| bddebian | Hello again cbx33 ;-) | 05:45 |
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| === ..[topic/#edubuntu:albgeist] : Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | Read before installing | ||
| cbx33 | Mr LaserJock Good AfterNooooooooooon | 06:12 |
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| LaserJock | hehe | 06:13 |
| sbalneav | Back, with $150 worth of new lead acid cells. | 06:23 |
| LaserJock | heh | 06:24 |
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| Petaris | sbalneav: New laptop battery then? | 06:32 |
| Petaris | haha | 06:32 |
| sbalneav | No, new batteries for the UPS on our database server :( | 06:32 |
| Petaris | ahh | 06:32 |
| Petaris | only $150? | 06:32 |
| Petaris | nice | 06:32 |
| sbalneav | Yeah, the trick is not to buy lead acid cells at a computer shop. We've got a shop here in town that deals in nothing but batteries: automotive and industrial. They've got the batteries at about 1/2 the price that a computer shop would charge. | 06:36 |
| LaserJock | oh, good idea | 06:36 |
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| Petaris | cool | 06:37 |
| sbalneav | hey, a 6v 12ah cell's a 6v 12ah cell. They're all the same :) | 06:38 |
| ogra | my UPS has these standard batteries they use in remote controlled models ... | 06:38 |
| ogra | a stack of them ... | 06:38 |
| ogra | but its quite cheap to replace them :) | 06:39 |
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| sbalneav | ogra: OK, I've started in on the mount wrapper (in amongst the bits of my regular 9-5 job). I'll have it completed by tonight. | 06:47 |
| ogra | WOW ! | 06:47 |
| ogra | i'll jump on the cdpinger tonight or tomorrow | 06:47 |
| ogra | btw, after 8h playing music, my client was using 115 MB for no apparent reason ... | 06:48 |
| ogra | then dropped down to 50M againg | 06:48 |
| ogra | and 10 mins later died | 06:48 |
| sbalneav | did top show anything? | 06:48 |
| sbalneav | Were you running it, or just using free? | 06:49 |
| ogra | my usbdisk is ext3 and a saw kjournald juming up and down in top, but without any signifacnt mem usage | 06:49 |
| ogra | i'm running top constantly on tty1 | 06:49 |
| ogra | but there is absolutely *nothing* there | 06:50 |
| sbalneav | weeeird. | 06:50 |
| sbalneav | ok, I'll poke about a bit tonight. | 06:50 |
| ogra | all i cant think of is that the journal grows in memory or something ... | 06:50 |
| ogra | i sadly dont have a second usb disk here atm | 06:51 |
| ogra | else i'd try with a vfat fromatted one | 06:51 |
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| cbx33 | pin ogra | 07:34 |
| ogra | ouch | 07:34 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 07:34 |
| cbx33 | um, I just did a dist upgrade, and now gdm won;t start | 07:34 |
| cbx33 | just thought I'd let you know | 07:34 |
| cbx33 | I also can't view the output | 07:34 |
| ogra | oh, why is that ? | 07:34 |
| cbx33 | because the ncurses screen is all strange | 07:34 |
| cbx33 | gonna try a dpkg-reconfigure | 07:35 |
| ogra | all strange ? | 07:35 |
| cbx33 | strange characters and no readable text | 07:35 |
| cbx33 | I'll do a screen shot if I can;t reconfigure | 07:35 |
| ogra | i suspect if you look into the recent Xorg.log in /var/log/ you will find that the font "fixed" cant be found | 07:35 |
| ogra | but thats only a rough guess :) | 07:36 |
| cbx33 | hmmm | 07:36 |
| cbx33 | xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed | 07:36 |
| cbx33 | ok got it working | 07:38 |
| cbx33 | needed a forced reinstall of xserver-xorg | 07:38 |
| ogra | that shouldnt happen i guess, rodarvus ? | 07:40 |
| rodarvus | no, xfonts-base was fixed earlier this week | 07:40 |
| rodarvus | to make sure this problem won't happen | 07:40 |
| rodarvus | this is triggered by an upgrade of xfonts-base before xfonts-utils is fully setup | 07:41 |
| cbx33 | when i did the reinstall it did say something about the /etc/X11/X had been modified and wouldn't be replaced | 07:41 |
| ogra | well, there must have been another issue ... | 07:41 |
| cbx33 | I would say I'll test it again, but it's taken 5-6 hours to get to this point :p | 07:41 |
| ogra | did you have any errors in the first upgrade ? | 07:41 |
| ogra | before you ran the manual one with --reinstall ? | 07:42 |
| cbx33 | well X wouldn't start and came up with a funny ncurses screen | 07:42 |
| cbx33 | on trying to start it again manually same thing happened | 07:42 |
| cbx33 | then I did the dpkg-reconfigure, and it said xserver-xorg was broekn or not fully installed | 07:43 |
| cbx33 | that's when I did a manual reinstall of xsedrver-xorg | 07:43 |
| ogra | i mean during the upgrade | 07:44 |
| ogra | not afterwards | 07:44 |
| cbx33 | didn't see one | 07:44 |
| cbx33 | brb | 07:44 |
| cbx33 | 10 - 15 mins | 07:44 |
| rodarvus | /etc/X11/X had been modified and wouldn't be replaced <- not an issue actually | 07:55 |
| rodarvus | cbx33, try doing a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xfonts-base" to see if it fixes your problem | 07:56 |
| rodarvus | . o O ( hmm, a few funny warnings here ) | 07:57 |
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| cbx33 | ***GAH*** what's happened to usplash | 08:35 |
| pygi | cbx33, broken :) | 08:35 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 08:35 |
| cbx33 | i'll say | 08:35 |
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| cbx33 | gnome panel seems broken too | 08:38 |
| cbx33 | cliking on applications doesn't yield a very pretty sight | 08:38 |
| cbx33 | but system and places are ok | 08:40 |
| sbalneav | ogra: ping, still awake? | 08:46 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: ogra is always awake, as far as I know | 08:47 |
| sbalneav | He's a man on a mission. | 08:47 |
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| sbalneav | I'll see if he's in -devel | 08:48 |
| cbx33 | grrrr, what culd be wrong :( | 08:51 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: oh, is Applications flickering? | 08:54 |
| cbx33 | yes that's one thing | 08:54 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: go to /etc/xdg/menus/ and remove the bad link to the debian menu | 08:55 |
| ogra | sbalneav, pong | 08:56 |
| cbx33 | w00t thanks LaserJock | 08:56 |
| cbx33 | you certainly know your stuff :p | 08:56 |
| LaserJock | only cause I had the same problem | 08:56 |
| sbalneav | hey | 08:57 |
| ogra | whats up ? | 08:57 |
| sbalneav | ogra: What "standard" direcory in /tmp do we want to mount to for the ltspfs mount? /tmp/.uid-ltspfs/mountpoint? | 08:57 |
| ogra | sounds sensible ... | 08:57 |
| sbalneav | i.e. /tmp/.sbalneav-ltspfs/my_usb_stick? | 08:57 |
| ogra | we could also do /tmp/.clientip-ltspfs/mountpoint | 08:58 |
| ogra | but thats bigger effort | 08:58 |
| ogra | no, tkae the real ID | 08:58 |
| ogra | i.e. /tmp/.1000-ltspfs/my_usb_stick | 08:58 |
| ogra | its invisible anyway | 08:58 |
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| sbalneav | oh? not the named id? | 08:59 |
| ogra | so it doesnt matter, but we likely should distingush by user | 08:59 |
| ogra | so forget the clientip stuff :) | 08:59 |
| ogra | well, the UID is as easy to get as the username, pick as you like ;) | 09:00 |
| ogra | i can adjust the scripts here ... | 09:00 |
| sbalneav | okeydokey, will do. I'll go by the name. More "intuitive" | 09:00 |
| ogra | as i said, nobody will see it apart from us :) | 09:00 |
| sbalneav | OK, *I* find it more intuitive :) | 09:01 |
| sbalneav | lol | 09:01 |
| ogra | heh, ok :) | 09:01 |
| sbalneav | I'm about 1/2 done. | 09:01 |
| ogra | wow | 09:01 |
| ogra | youre impressive ... did i ever tell you ? | 09:01 |
| sbalneav | Yes! But I always enjoy hearing it again. | 09:02 |
| bddebian | heh | 09:02 |
| ogra | :) | 09:02 |
| sbalneav | I am also exceedingly good looking, and a connesuer of fine wines and food. You forgot to mention that as well. Please do not make this mistake again :) | 09:03 |
| sbalneav | However, spelling is not my strong suit. | 09:03 |
| ogra | one at a time :) | 09:03 |
| cbx33 | ogra, getting a permission denied on a client booting | 09:03 |
| ogra | ?? | 09:04 |
| cbx33 | on my new edgy box | 09:04 |
| === ogra needs to go downstairs again asap | ||
| sbalneav | drat, someone, what's the correct spelling of conneseur? I could google it, but that's cheating. | 09:04 |
| ogra | it think with ai | 09:04 |
| cbx33 | sbalneav, google it, ogra will never know :p | 09:04 |
| ogra | connaiseur | 09:04 |
| sbalneav | Ah, that looks closer. | 09:05 |
| ogra | cbx33, i'll be back later, you need to be a bit more descritive ;) | 09:05 |
| cbx33 | mount failed: | 09:05 |
| cbx33 | nfs mount | 09:05 |
| cbx33 | ok | 09:05 |
| cbx33 | I'll try and figure it out | 09:05 |
| cbx33 | I ran the ltsp-update-sshkeys | 09:05 |
| cbx33 | I figured it out | 09:07 |
| cbx33 | inthe upgrade it replace the exports file | 09:07 |
| sbalneav | oooh. | 09:11 |
| sbalneav | I just realized a snag | 09:11 |
| sbalneav | crumb. How to get out of this one :( | 09:12 |
| sbalneav | errrm | 09:12 |
| === sbalneav thinks furiously | ||
| === cbx33 turns the handle | ||
| cbx33 | can we make it so the grub entries read Edubuntu in Edgy? | 09:22 |
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| cbx33 | fixed :D | 09:33 |
| cbx33 | bzr is bloody broken in edgy | 09:41 |
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| cbx33 | what is this thing in edgy where I get funny quotes marks | 10:09 |
| cbx33 | and I have to type the qutes button twice and they are not the right quotes | 10:09 |
| cbx33 | ogra, rodarvus ? | 10:09 |
| cbx33 | sorry for being stupid | 10:09 |
| rodarvus | cbx33: in what application? | 10:10 |
| rodarvus | (or you mean everywhere) | 10:10 |
| cbx33 | everywhere | 10:11 |
| cbx33 | happens with the tilde key ~ too | 10:11 |
| cbx33 | I went to type ~ogra | 10:12 |
| cbx33 | and got a tilde or could have been an umlaut over the o? | 10:12 |
| cbx33 | yeh happens with all vowels | 10:13 |
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| cbx33 | ping ogra | 10:30 |
| sbalneav | OK, heading home for the afternoon. Be on later tonight. | 10:39 |
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| cbx33 | ling Laser_away | 10:41 |
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| sdfsaedcjhm | hi | 11:16 |
| mhz | hi sdfsaedcjhm | 11:18 |
| sdfsaedcjhm | wassup | 11:19 |
| mhz | not much, just getting rid of spams :( | 11:20 |
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| sdfsaedcjhm | ah | 11:21 |
| sdfsaedcjhm | you work in edubuntu? | 11:21 |
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| cbx33 | mhz, heheh darn those spams | 11:21 |
| mhz | cbx33: hehe, indeed, esp. the ones about Viagra stuff | 11:21 |
| cbx33 | hehaha | 11:21 |
| mhz | sdfsaedcjhm: if by work, you mean, I try to evangelise and contribute as much as possible, burning lots of hours a week on this... well, yes, I do. | 11:22 |
| LaserJock | lol | 11:22 |
| sdfsaedcjhm | ah | 11:22 |
| sdfsaedcjhm | kool | 11:22 |
| sdfsaedcjhm | whats difference between edubuntu and the other ubuntu distros? | 11:23 |
| mhz | sdfsaedcjhm: however, most of the stuff i do benefit the spanish speakers users of edubuntu | 11:23 |
| LaserJock | default apps are more kid oriented, themeing is more kid oriented, and LTSP | 11:23 |
| pygi | sdfsaedcjhm, there is no such thing as "ubuntu distros" | 11:23 |
| sdfsaedcjhm | ah | 11:24 |
| cbx33 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuArtwork/Palette | 11:24 |
| LaserJock | sdfsaedcjhm: all the flavors, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu are all part of the same project really | 11:24 |
| LaserJock | they share the same software repositories | 11:25 |
| mhz | sdfsaedcjhm: basically, Edubuntu is oriented towards a) School Labs, b) Schools wanting a cool distro for their students, c) parents happy with edu apps. | 11:25 |
| LaserJock | it's mostly the look and default applications that makes the difference | 11:25 |
| sdfsaedcjhm | ah | 11:25 |
| mhz | oh, and if you want an LTSP environement just out of the box...Edubuntu does it for you | 11:27 |
| sdfsaedcjhm | whats LTSP | 11:29 |
| LaserJock | Linux Terminal Sever Project | 11:29 |
| LaserJock | www.ltsp.org | 11:30 |
| LaserJock | very cool stuff | 11:30 |
| sdfsaedcjhm | ah | 11:30 |
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| cbx33 | ping LaserJock | 11:40 |
| cbx33 | http://www.progbox.co.uk/finals/ | 11:40 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 11:40 |
| cbx33 | oggs at last | 11:40 |
| sdfsaedcjhm | hehe | 11:41 |
| lucasvo | cbx33: nice! | 11:41 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 11:43 |
| mhz | cbx33: i have done an edubuntu wallpaper and style for fluxbox | 11:44 |
| cbx33 | nice | 11:44 |
| mhz | do you fluxbox? | 11:44 |
| cbx33 | no | 11:45 |
| cbx33 | not usually | 11:45 |
| mhz | Liverpool! | 11:45 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: haha, I'll get .ogg on this thing so I don't get you in any more trouble | 11:46 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 11:46 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 11:47 |
| sdfsaedcjhm | kool | 11:47 |
| cbx33 | I'm still trying to get sabdfl to listen to them | 11:47 |
| cbx33 | :p | 11:47 |
| cbx33 | what with the ff problem and all | 11:47 |
| sdfsaedcjhm | im waiting for my edubuntu cds to arrive | 11:47 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: do you have a nvidia card by chance? | 11:47 |
| cbx33 | indeed I do | 11:47 |
| cbx33 | y? | 11:47 |
| LaserJock | I was thinking of upgrading a box to edgy | 11:48 |
| cbx33 | ahhh | 11:48 |
| LaserJock | ATI isn't in the best shape it seems in edgy | 11:48 |
| cbx33 | well, I wouldn't know | 11:48 |
| LaserJock | but this box has an nvidia card | 11:48 |
| cbx33 | whether nvidia worked or not | 11:48 |
| LaserJock | so I wondered if it work | 11:48 |
| cbx33 | because mine is a vmware box | 11:48 |
| LaserJock | really? what's it running on? | 11:49 |
| cbx33 | what do you mean? | 11:49 |
| cbx33 | the vmware machine uses a vmware driver for graphics | 11:49 |
| LaserJock | what is vmware running on | 11:49 |
| cbx33 | dapper | 11:49 |
| cbx33 | not their packager | 11:50 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 11:50 |
| cbx33 | downloaded from source | 11:50 |
| cbx33 | :D | 11:50 |
| Petaris | later guys | 11:51 |
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| === mhz gotta log off from ciber :( | ||
| pygi | bye mhz | 12:14 |
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