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| bddebian | Howdy | 04:07 |
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| Hobbsee | hi all | 05:58 |
| nixternal | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings/Minutes | 06:28 |
| nixternal | doctored that up a bit...easy to create a page now, and i created a "Meeting Minutes Template" for it to use as well, actually for everyone to use | 06:28 |
| nixternal | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings/MinutesTemplate | 06:28 |
| nixternal | ^^ template | 06:28 |
| nixternal | i will be working on the minutes in a bit for the last meeting..it is going to take a while, there was a lot on the plate at the past meeting | 06:29 |
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| === imbrandon yawns , heya everyone | ||
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| nixternal | hiya Hobbsee | 07:35 |
| Hobbsee | hi nixternal | 07:35 |
| nixternal | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings/Minutes has gotten a face lift | 07:36 |
| nixternal | and with help of my girlfriend -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings/MinutesTemplate | 07:36 |
| nixternal | with the* | 07:36 |
| nixternal | i need a new keyboard, this one makes me forget words ;) | 07:37 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: looks good | 07:37 |
| Hobbsee | ehe | 07:37 |
| nixternal | the template alright you think? | 07:37 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, looks good to me | 07:37 |
| Hobbsee | i dont touch doco, remember? | 07:37 |
| nixternal | hehe, well she was talking about "Meeting Minutes" today that her secretary does for their board meetings, and i was like, how do they look | 07:38 |
| nixternal | so she emailed me a copy, and wallah ;) | 07:38 |
| imbrandon | heh i also changed the link to make a new one at the bottom to nixternal | 07:40 |
| imbrandon | err put it at the bottom | 07:40 |
| imbrandon | looked kinda funny "create new page" right at the top | 07:40 |
| nixternal | only problem though, is it will get pushed down, and people won't notice it after a while | 07:40 |
| nixternal | that is why all doc stuff puts "creates" up top | 07:40 |
| imbrandon | umm its used less then ppl visiting | 07:41 |
| imbrandon | IE its only used once ever 2 weeks where as people vist the minutes alot more | 07:41 |
| nixternal | true | 07:42 |
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| insanekane | are all the dapper code compiled with gcc 4.0.3 ? | 10:05 |
| insanekane | all the libs i mean ? | 10:05 |
| imbrandon | root@voyager:/# gcc -v | 10:06 |
| imbrandon | Using built-in specs. | 10:06 |
| imbrandon | Target: i486-linux-gnu | 10:06 |
| imbrandon | Configured with: ../src/configure -v --enable-languages=c,c++,java,f95,objc,ada,treelang --prefix=/usr --enable-shared --with-system-zlib --libexecdir=/usr/lib --without-included-gettext --enable-threads=posix --enable-nls --program-suffix=-4.0 --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-libstdcxx-debug --enable-java-awt=gtk-default --enable-gtk-cairo --with-java-home=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.0-1.4.2.0/jre --enab | 10:06 |
| imbrandon | checking=release i486-linux-gnu | 10:06 |
| imbrandon | Thread model: posix | 10:06 |
| imbrandon | gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5) | 10:06 |
| imbrandon | root@voyager:/# | 10:06 |
| imbrandon | ^^ should be compiled with that, thats from a dapper pbuilder | 10:06 |
| insanekane | imbrandon: have you ever seen a QShared segfault ? | 10:07 |
| imbrandon | nope , cant say i have | 10:07 |
| insanekane | imbrandon: i'm getting this wierd error on running a Qt app ... i've seen the error before, and it was due to compiler mismatch ... but this time around, all the libs on my system use 4.0.3, and I get the same error | 10:08 |
| imbrandon | hrm , can you tell me the app and pastebin the error ? cant garentee i can help but we'll see ;) | 10:09 |
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| chmj | ping Riddell | 10:29 |
| chmj | errr | 10:29 |
| chmj | Riddell: ping | 10:29 |
| Riddell | hi chmj | 10:29 |
| chmj | hey dude | 10:29 |
| chmj | got a menute | 10:29 |
| chmj | ? | 10:29 |
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| imbrandon | heh | 10:31 |
| insanekane | imbrandon: sorry for the late response ... i was about to pastebin it when konqui crashed on me ... back online now, and will pastebing | 10:38 |
| insanekane | imbrandon: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ZlFhAN81.html | 10:40 |
| insanekane | imbrandon: any ideas ? | 10:44 |
| insanekane | imbrandon: are you around ? | 11:02 |
| imbrandon | doh sorry , was afk | 11:02 |
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| insanekane | imbrandon: np | 11:03 |
| imbrandon | ouch hrm, yea i have zero idea tbh Riddell might be able to muster something else more up if he has time | 11:03 |
| insanekane | imbrandon: i strongly doubt that the bt has any useful info anyway ... | 11:04 |
| imbrandon | right | 11:04 |
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| insanekane | the very same error occurred the last time ... and it was fixed by a recompile :) (due to compiler mismatch) ... | 11:05 |
| insanekane | but now, there isnt any chance of mismatch | 11:05 |
| imbrandon | yea gcc hasent been changed in dapper that i am aware of | 11:05 |
| insanekane | because, i have compiled Qt and this app with the same compiler ... gcc 4.0.3 | 11:05 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: how much of a pita would it be to get ipodslave in main , so k-d-s can be set ipod:/ when you click the icon on the desktop ( and will amarok use ipodslave if its avaible too afaik from reading the doc's ) | 11:07 |
| imbrandon | s/and\ will\ amarok/and\ amarok\ will/g | 11:07 |
| Riddell | probably not too difficult | 11:08 |
| Riddell | I don't think amarok uses ipodslave | 11:08 |
| insanekane | Riddell: any ideas on this ? http://rafb.net/paste/results/ZlFhAN81.html | 11:09 |
| imbrandon | i read somewhere in the amarok site / docs that it COULD , i dunno , never tried it or looked past that tough | 11:09 |
| imbrandon | though* | 11:09 |
| imbrandon | actualy the more i think about it it was in the ipodslave docs i read it when i was doing the libgamin rebuild for it | 11:09 |
| imbrandon | anyhow no biggie either way, what would need to be done? something i can file ? would you have to do it ? dunno never tried to get an app in main before | 11:10 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: you coud write the main inclusion report | 11:11 |
| Riddell | insanekane: iz qt bug? | 11:11 |
| imbrandon | ok is there a template or past report i can look at to see whats needed ? | 11:11 |
| insanekane | Riddell: i doubt it | 11:12 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: see UbuntuMainInclusionQueue | 11:12 |
| imbrandon | okies thanks | 11:12 |
| Riddell | make a new page called MainInclusionReportIpodslave and use the MainInclusionsReportTemplate | 11:12 |
| imbrandon | k | 11:12 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: please tell me an ipod wouldent be considered "exotic" hardware w.r.t " The package should not deal with exotic hardware which we cannot support. " on the check list hehe | 11:18 |
| Riddell | it wouldn't | 11:18 |
| imbrandon | k | 11:18 |
| Riddell | but you could acknowledge that assumption in the report | 11:18 |
| imbrandon | k | 11:18 |
| nixternal | my pink ipod is exotic | 11:19 |
| imbrandon | yea i think enough of our userbase has ipods tbh, we get questions about how to work them using amarok semi regular in #kubuntu | 11:19 |
| imbrandon | lol @ nixternal | 11:19 |
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| imbrandon | Riddell: is there a progmatic way for my to seach for all the deps to make sure they are in main already without doing it one by one ? | 11:36 |
| imbrandon | s/my to seach/me to search | 11:37 |
| imbrandon | nvm mind found a way /me headdesks | 11:43 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: mind giveing this a once over before i put it in the que https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportIpodslave | 11:48 |
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| Riddell | imbrandon: "Standard debhelper/cdbs/dbs packaging" which? | 12:14 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: pitti will ask why we want this when we already have amarok | 12:14 |
| imbrandon | k | 12:14 |
| imbrandon | yea i'm rediting | 12:15 |
| Riddell | and he won't let in multiple libpng*,libxft* it'll need to be recompiled against the main version | 12:15 |
| imbrandon | ok so just leave those off ? | 12:15 |
| Riddell | see if you can recompile it against the versions of those libraries in main | 12:16 |
| imbrandon | k | 12:16 |
| raphink | Riddell: hi | 12:20 |
| raphink | do you have any idea why the update script in kubuntu-meta will not work? | 12:20 |
| raphink | I get ImportError: No module named germinate | 12:21 |
| raphink | although I have installed the germinate package | 12:21 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: ahh it should compile fine aginst just main packages looking in the control file its all main and ${shlibs:Depends}, i did a apt-cache show before to get the deps | 12:23 |
| Riddell | raphink: done an apt-get build-dep kubuntu-meta ? | 12:25 |
| imbrandon | ok Riddell updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportIpodslave | 12:25 |
| raphink | let's see | 12:25 |
| raphink | Riddell: doesn't work | 12:27 |
| raphink | I still get can't find Germinate module | 12:27 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: you removed the line about what type of packaging it has | 12:27 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: it still needs to be re-built against main libraries first | 12:27 |
| imbrandon | no i dident, i updated it to just saud cdbs | 12:28 |
| imbrandon | says* | 12:28 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: oh I see, the formatting is broken at that point | 12:28 |
| imbrandon | err yea lemme fix that, and i'll build it agains main | 12:28 |
| Riddell | raphink: dapper or edgy? | 12:28 |
| imbrandon | will it need uploaded after its rebuildt for main ? | 12:28 |
| raphink | edgy in that case | 12:28 |
| raphink | I think I had the same with dapper though | 12:29 |
| raphink | I can check | 12:29 |
| raphink | works on dapper Riddell | 12:30 |
| Riddell | raphink: do you have /usr/lib/germinate/Germinate/__init__.py ? | 12:30 |
| raphink | let's see | 12:30 |
| raphink | nope | 12:30 |
| raphink | hmm yes sorry | 12:31 |
| Riddell | then you don't have germinate installed | 12:31 |
| raphink | I do | 12:31 |
| Riddell | hmm | 12:31 |
| raphink | it's there | 12:31 |
| Riddell | then you do and it shouldn't complain | 12:31 |
| raphink | well it does | 12:32 |
| Sime | Riddell: I just a wiki page up about the media:/ patches. | 12:33 |
| Sime | Riddell: you've probably seen it. | 12:33 |
| Sime | :-) | 12:33 |
| imbrandon | heya Sime | 12:33 |
| Riddell | KubuntuKDEMedia did land in my inbox | 12:33 |
| Sime | imbrandon: hi, your .debs seem to work. | 12:34 |
| imbrandon | Sime: yea , the only bug i found so far is the tabs dont show like in your screenshots ( IE the comp name with otheres hidden ) | 12:35 |
| imbrandon | and ummm | 12:35 |
| imbrandon | there is an error if you open konq and hit f9 i think it is | 12:36 |
| imbrandon | when it tries to show system:/ | 12:36 |
| imbrandon | other than that its lookin good | 12:36 |
| Sime | I'm not familiar with F9. | 12:37 |
| Sime | what does it do? | 12:37 |
| imbrandon | just opens system:/ | 12:37 |
| imbrandon | one sec i'ma grab a soda | 12:37 |
| imbrandon | then i'll give you the exact erorr | 12:37 |
| raphink | Riddell: I reinstalled germinate on edgy and still get the error | 12:37 |
| Sime | imbrandon: F9 = Hide Navigation Panel. | 12:38 |
| Riddell | F9 loads the sidebar | 12:38 |
| Riddell | raphink: I'm out of ideas I'm afraid | 12:38 |
| raphink | :( | 12:39 |
| raphink | does it work on your machine Riddell? | 12:39 |
| raphink | note that python fails to installs | 12:39 |
| raphink | upgrade rather | 12:39 |
| raphink | for a week or so | 12:39 |
| Sime | imbrandon: F9 seems to work fine here. | 12:39 |
| imbrandon | kk one sec | 12:40 |
| Sime | imbrandon: you saw that there is now a wiki page for this? | 12:40 |
| raphink | the problem is libgcj7 | 12:42 |
| Sime | imbrandon: oh, the comptuer name in the tab I did manually. | 12:44 |
| Riddell | raphink: yes | 12:44 |
| imbrandon | Sime: http://imbrandon.sytes.net/ss2.png | 12:44 |
| Sime | imbrandon: there is not magic there | 12:44 |
| Riddell | raphink: could well be a python issue then | 12:44 |
| raphink | yes I guess | 12:44 |
| Riddell | raphink: I just did a dist-upgrade today with no notable problems | 12:44 |
| raphink | really? | 12:45 |
| Sime | imbrandon: mmm system:/ is broken. | 12:45 |
| imbrandon | Sime: thats the error i get when trying to open system:/ now ( and it stays blank like that after ok ) | 12:45 |
| raphink | I've had python problems for days | 12:45 |
| raphink | and if I try to force the install | 12:45 |
| imbrandon | Sime: yea seems so, no biggie just wanted to let ya know | 12:46 |
| raphink | it removes debhelper, lintian, kubuntu-desktop and lots of other things | 12:46 |
| raphink | and I can't put them back | 12:46 |
| === Sime notices some complaining about python yesterday when he upgraded from dapper -> edgy. | ||
| imbrandon | hehe | 12:46 |
| raphink | trying again | 12:47 |
| Sime | imbrandon: "system:/" still works here. Why is yours looking for file:///home? | 12:47 |
| imbrandon | no idea , heh i have a prettymuch default edgy install, do note that nixternal reporduced it, rather he is the one that showed me | 12:48 |
| imbrandon | so i dont think its just my system | 12:48 |
| imbrandon | although i wouldent rult it out hehe | 12:48 |
| imbrandon | rule* | 12:48 |
| Sime | sebas: I'm not sure if I can PM you. | 12:49 |
| sebas | Ah, you probably need to identify with nickserv. | 12:50 |
| imbrandon | Sime: if you care to prod the source i used ( its default from edgy + your patches ) they are one directory up from the deb url i gave | 12:50 |
| Sime | I probably needa real nick first. | 12:50 |
| sebas | Ah :> | 12:50 |
| Sime | imbrandon: yes, I'll do some hacking on it this week. | 12:50 |
| imbrandon | kk , just poke me and i'll rebuild anytime | 12:50 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: do i just put "Rebuilding against main only" in the changelog ? | 01:03 |
| imbrandon | ipodslave (0.7.3-0ubuntu3) edgy; urgency=low | 01:04 |
| imbrandon | * Rebuild for main inclusion. | 01:04 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: assuming that correctly makes it pick up the correct libraries | 01:07 |
| imbrandon | yup, looks like it , its finishing up the build now | 01:07 |
| imbrandon | then i'll test it | 01:07 |
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| Riddell | goldenear: have you seen the thread on kde-doc-i18n about oskar? | 01:12 |
| goldenear | nop | 01:13 |
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| goldenear | where is it ? | 01:13 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: ok all builds and works fine against main olny, so upload that now and add the report to the que ? | 01:15 |
| goldenear | Riddell: where is the thread ? | 01:16 |
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| Riddell | goldenear: on kde-doc-i18n | 01:18 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: sure | 01:18 |
| goldenear | Riddell: ok found it :) | 01:24 |
| imbrandon | okies done and done, do i ping pitti now or does it have to wait for a meeting , or ummm now what hehe | 01:24 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: nothing, he'll see your edit and get to it when he has time | 01:25 |
| imbrandon | kk | 01:25 |
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| serzholino | Hi! Is there any plans for updating gtk-qt-engine for dapper? | 02:42 |
| serzholino | for me breezy's version was much more better in its job | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | for dapper? no. | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | for edgy? quite possibly | 02:42 |
| serzholino | why not, dapper is LTS | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | !release | 02:43 |
| ubotu | Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases | 02:43 |
| Hobbsee | because it's stable, and the features, etc, go into unstable. check that second link. | 02:43 |
| Hobbsee | serzholino: which was the current version of the gtk-qt-engine? | 02:43 |
| serzholino | 0.60-1.1ubuntu7 | 02:44 |
| Hobbsee | Version: 0.70-0ubuntu1 is in dapper. cool. | 02:45 |
| Hobbsee | so that's not out of date | 02:45 |
| Riddell | hi Hobbsee, what's the status of amarok? | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: they delayed it. | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i got on their mailing list though, and have been talking to them in the channel | 02:47 |
| === Hobbsee thought they were going to kick her out, for a while there. | ||
| serzholino | Hobbsee: hmm.. where i can get it? | 02:47 |
| serzholino | Hobbsee: 'apt-cache policy gtk2-engines-gtk-qt' shows me only 0.60-1.1ubuntu7 | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | sorry, in edgy | 02:48 |
| === Hobbsee cant keep the releases straight, it seems. it's been a while since anyone's asked about breezy. | ||
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| Hobbsee | hi apachelogger | 03:29 |
| apachelogger | Hobbsee: ahoy | 03:29 |
| apachelogger | Hobbsee: got properly added to amarok-packagers list? | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | apachelogger: yep :) | 03:30 |
| === Hobbsee finally figured out how to | ||
| apachelogger | k :) | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | never been part of a google groups list before | 03:30 |
| apachelogger | well, IMO it's a lot easier with a gmail account | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | apachelogger: true that. i just used my @kubuntu.org one | 03:31 |
| apachelogger | omg | 03:44 |
| apachelogger | ksysguardd is missing an init.d script | 03:44 |
| Riddell | it'll get started by ksysguard | 03:48 |
| === Hobbsee curses the evilness of assignments and online maths quizes. | ||
| Hobbsee | bugger. i failed it. | 04:00 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I mean for remote usage | 04:05 |
| apachelogger | btw, whom to bug for a template script, which takes care of usual operations, as check for status etc. ... suse does have such a file, makes writing init scripts a whole lot easier | 04:06 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: same thing | 04:08 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: try dh_make | 04:08 |
| seaLne | is there anything in kubuntu for apport? | 04:10 |
| Riddell | seaLne: no | 04:10 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: well, deamon is not accessible from remote machine if it's started by ksysguard ... and I don't want to have to run ksysguard in backgroun on every machine in the network ;-) | 04:10 |
| Riddell | mostly because the KDE crash dialogue does most of what apport does | 04:10 |
| seaLne | ah right i was wondering as it sounds similar | 04:11 |
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| Riddell | seaLne: also if I did a kde-apport we'd just get more bug reports, most of which belong upstream | 04:12 |
| Riddell | so my plan is to see how it looks in edgy and if it does add something then I'll look at it for edgy+1 | 04:12 |
| seaLne | k | 04:13 |
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| Hobbsee_ | what was that? | 04:18 |
| seaLne | "Introducing automatic crash reporting in Edgy" mail by pitti on ubuntu-devel-announce | 04:22 |
| Hobbsee | yay! the evil maths is done! | 04:41 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: yeah. my first response to that is "so what happens with kde apps, cos that'd be really cool!" | 04:41 |
| Riddell | KDE apps already have a crash dialogue with backtrace | 04:42 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: true, but they dont automatically import to malone, with all the program versions, etc. | 04:43 |
| Hobbsee | did you see the mail? | 04:43 |
| Riddell | my reluctance is that most crashes are upstream issues | 04:43 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: that's also true. | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | which is why we could kill off a large section of kde in malone, i guess | 04:44 |
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| === Hobbsee wonders if there's any way to separate packaging bugs and bugs upstream. and get them filed in the correct place automatically | ||
| Hobbsee | i guess there's the obvious "if there's a backtrace, get it filed upstream". ie, if kcrash has been induced, file it upstream. | 04:46 |
| Hobbsee | wb apachelogger | 04:47 |
| apachelogger | fd | 04:47 |
| apachelogger | battery load = 0 that was ;-) | 04:47 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 04:47 |
| Hobbsee | i love that | 04:47 |
| apachelogger | somehow acpi won't update my battery status | 04:47 |
| === Hobbsee got hit with that during the meeting. | ||
| apachelogger | or actualyl only sometimes | 04:47 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 04:47 |
| === Hobbsee plain forgot to look :P | ||
| apachelogger | hehe :P | 04:47 |
| apachelogger | seems to be a bug with most hp books | 04:48 |
| Hobbsee | suddenly saw the flashing light and went "ahhh...drat" | 04:48 |
| === Hobbsee counts the hours till the next assignment is due. | ||
| apachelogger | though that batter issue here is really not that serious if you don't forget to plug the book ;-) | 04:48 |
| Hobbsee | true | 04:48 |
| Hobbsee | 42 hours, i think.... | 04:48 |
| Hobbsee | enough time for me to ignore the rest of it for a bit longer. | 04:49 |
| Hobbsee | apachelogger: must it be tuesday tomorrow? | 04:49 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt like tuesdays. | ||
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| Hobbsee | hi toma | 04:50 |
| toma | hoi Hobbsee | 04:50 |
| apachelogger | ah, bank holiday is that here round :D | 04:50 |
| Hobbsee | what's a bank holiday anyway? | 04:50 |
| Hobbsee | we dont get htem | 04:51 |
| Hobbsee | bugger. tomorrow is tuesday | 04:51 |
| Hobbsee | *makes mental note to take wallet to uni tomorrow* | 04:51 |
| Riddell | it's like a public holiday, but less formal | 04:51 |
| Hobbsee | oh nice! | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | ie, a public holiday where no one works, or an excuse to be paid at double time and a half? | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | ie, do most people stop working? | 04:52 |
| apachelogger | actually IMO austrians are most time stop working for any reason :P | 04:53 |
| Hobbsee | cant say i've met many austrans.... | 04:53 |
| Hobbsee | if any | 04:53 |
| Hobbsee | apachelogger: were you referring to australians, or austrians in your above comment? | 04:56 |
| apachelogger | austrians :D | 04:58 |
| Hobbsee | right | 04:59 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: you're still planning to announce the kubuntu community manager stuff for the CC in 45 mins? | 05:16 |
| Hobbsee | i'm going to go to bed, so i cant see the response. | 05:16 |
| Riddell | it's in 45 mins? | 05:17 |
| Riddell | ok | 05:17 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: yeah. 2am local time | 05:17 |
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| === seaLne thinks it would be simpler if Hobbsee just switched over to UTC | ||
| apachelogger | utc++ | 05:23 |
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| bddebian | Hello | 05:45 |
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| DaSkreech | Yeah We need some !k entries | 07:11 |
| DaSkreech | Can I dump all of ubotu's responses? | 07:11 |
| Riddell | ? | 07:12 |
| DaSkreech | !sound | 07:12 |
| ubotu | If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems | 07:12 |
| DaSkreech | i keep getting confused reading stuff like that till it suddenly clicks that it's an Ubuntu (Gnome) centric response | 07:13 |
| Riddell | ideally it would just answer differently on #kubuntu | 07:13 |
| DaSkreech | I would suspect that having a semi detailed explanation on how to fix things like that would be too large to have for both KDE and for gnome | 07:14 |
| DaSkreech | Yeah I keep hearing that but as it seems no work is going into that for now having a factiod for Kubuntu seems reasonable | 07:14 |
| Riddell | sure, add a k one | 07:18 |
| DaSkreech | I figured out my sound issue | 07:19 |
| DaSkreech | Someone clicmbed behind my computer and turned off the speakers | 07:20 |
| DaSkreech | :-P | 07:20 |
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| Sime | seaLne: I didn't know this before, but you can actually add a second clock to the kicker and set it to another timezone. | 07:42 |
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| Lure | Riddell: what is your plan with guidance-p-m in regards to laptop keys? Make this configurable or just hardcode? | 08:16 |
| Riddell | Lure: probably make it configurable, just using the standard KDE global shortcuts settings | 08:17 |
| Lure | Riddell: since you use KAction, we could just set there KShortcut properly (XF86Standby, XF86Sleep) | 08:18 |
| Lure | Riddell: then fix the mapping in kmilo | 08:18 |
| Lure | Riddell: I am just not sure if KAction shortcuts are global or just when widget (menu) is active | 08:19 |
| Lure | Riddell: just tried - my quick hack does not work - we need to set global shortcut or hal monitoring for key event | 08:22 |
| Riddell | yes, it would need to be a global shortcut | 08:23 |
| Lure | Riddell: how do you plan to fix polling dbus problem? this 5 sec poll is a bit of load issue (not as big as knemo, but still) | 08:25 |
| DaSkreech | Argh the fonts look terrible in 3.5.4 | 08:26 |
| allee | Lure: side note: knemo 0.4.4 features a /sys backend which reduces the load | 08:26 |
| Lure | allee: nice, do we have it in edgy (even though I use knm)? | 08:26 |
| Riddell | Lure: either add qt3 mainloop integration to dbus-python or (more likely) just portitto qt 4.2 for edgy+1 | 08:27 |
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| Riddell | port it to | 08:27 |
| Lure | DaSkreech: true, sub-pixel hinting is off and Lite are used instead of Sans (afair) | 08:27 |
| allee | Lure: not yet. I prepared the debian upload today. I'll ask for a sync later | 08:27 |
| DaSkreech | Looks like someone was taking potshots at it | 08:27 |
| DaSkreech | Little holes all over the letters | 08:28 |
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| Lure | Riddell: ok, we can probably survive with polling for edgy... | 08:28 |
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| Riddell | Lure: I agree it sucks, but it's no worse than what klaptopdamon does | 08:31 |
| Lure | Riddell: very true ;-) | 08:32 |
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| Sp4rKy | hi | 08:50 |
| Sp4rKy | please,what can i do when i've "checking whether QTDIR environment variable is set... no" during pbuilding, what can i do ? | 08:52 |
| Sp4rKy | i've added libqt-mt-dev to B-D | 08:53 |
| Riddell | Sp4rKy: you should be able to set the qtdir with an argument to ./configure | 08:54 |
| Riddell | it should be /usr | 08:54 |
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| Sp4rKy | strange | 08:54 |
| Sp4rKy | i've not found any option for ./configure | 08:57 |
| Sp4rKy | and when i try to compil for my system (without pbuild), i need to set QTDIR to /usr/include/qt3 | 08:57 |
| Riddell | what's the application? | 08:58 |
| Riddell | does ./configure | grep qt output anything? | 08:58 |
| Sp4rKy | the application is djplay | 08:58 |
| Sp4rKy | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20577 | 08:59 |
| Sp4rKy | here is my configure option | 08:59 |
| Riddell | what's the build system? | 09:00 |
| Sp4rKy | dapper for pbuilder | 09:04 |
| Riddell | the application's build system | 09:07 |
| Riddell | autotools? | 09:07 |
| Sp4rKy | oups sorry | 09:07 |
| Sp4rKy | yes | 09:07 |
| Sp4rKy | Sp4rKY-laptop% ./configure |grep qt | 09:07 |
| Sp4rKy | configure: error: QTDIR must be properly set. | 09:07 |
| Riddell | not sure, and I'm currently too busy to take a look, wait around until someone is able to look at it | 09:09 |
| mornfall | Sp4rKy: tried setting QTDIR? :p | 09:10 |
| bddebian | heh | 09:10 |
| mornfall | hmm pbuilder | 09:10 |
| mornfall | dunno then | 09:10 |
| bddebian | Sp4rKy: There is no option to configure like --with-qt-lib= and --with-qt-dir= ? | 09:10 |
| mornfall | Sp4rKy: w/o pbuilder, does QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3? | 09:11 |
| mornfall | +work | 09:11 |
| Sp4rKy | work with my sytem but not with pbuilder and libqt-mt-dev in B-D | 09:13 |
| Sp4rKy | bddebian, no, look at my pastebin | 09:16 |
| bddebian | Hmm, is libqt-mt-dev qt3 or 4 now? Can you try libqt3-mt-dev? | 09:16 |
| Sp4rKy | i can try | 09:16 |
| Sp4rKy | bddebian, i already use libqt3-mt-dev :| | 09:17 |
| bddebian | Hmm, --with-plugins-qtdir doesn't let you pass the path? | 09:17 |
| bddebian | Hmm, does libqt3-mt-dev depend libqt3-headers? | 09:20 |
| Sp4rKy | Sp4rKY-laptop% apt-cache depends libqt3-mt-dev |grep header | 09:24 |
| Sp4rKy | Dpend: libqt3-headers | 09:24 |
| mornfall | QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3 ./configure in debian/rules? :) | 09:25 |
| Sp4rKy | mornfall, works with thus :D | 09:32 |
| Sp4rKy | YOUPIII | 09:32 |
| Sp4rKy | thx all for your help | 09:32 |
| Riddell | Sp4rKy: give us a ping if you need the package reviewed | 09:35 |
| Sp4rKy | Riddell, thx :D | 09:35 |
| Sp4rKy | if you want i've some other package which wait for review | 09:36 |
| bddebian | So we can ignore it like the 1000 other packages on REVU ;-P | 09:36 |
| Riddell | bddebian: I don't tend to ignore stuff if people ask me to review it | 09:37 |
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| bddebian | Riddell: I know, I am just being a little pissy today sorry :-) I have been trying to help with cleaning up REVU but my skillz are limited :-( | 09:37 |
| Sp4rKy | bddebian, :) | 09:38 |
| Sp4rKy | i seen you work a lot on reviewing | 09:39 |
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| Sp4rKy | E: Couldn't find package libjack0.100.0-dev | 09:54 |
| Sp4rKy | W: Unable to locate package libjack0.100.0-dev | 09:54 |
| Sp4rKy | another error ... | 09:54 |
| bddebian | Hmm, yeah, I don't see libjack in Edgy.. | 10:01 |
| bddebian | Oh wait | 10:01 |
| bddebian | SHould be there | 10:01 |
| bddebian | Sp4rKy: Is your pbuilder Edgy? | 10:02 |
| Sp4rKy | no | 10:05 |
| Sp4rKy | but my system is edgy and liibjack is | 10:06 |
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| bddebian | Oh, locally it can't find it either? | 10:08 |
| Sp4rKy | locally o can find it ! | 10:10 |
| bddebian | Are you sure you have Universe/Multiverse enabled in your pbuilderrc? | 10:15 |
| Sp4rKy | i'm update to edgy with a new ~/.pbuilderc | 10:17 |
| Sp4rKy | +r | 10:17 |
| bddebian | ah | 10:18 |
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| Lure | anybody else have problem on edgy when dist-upgrade wants to remove adept, kubuntu-desktop...? | 11:14 |
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| Lure | imbrandon: hi | 11:20 |
| imbrandon | moins Lure | 11:21 |
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| Lure | imbrandon: did you mention that you plan to do something about firefox kde integration for edgy? | 11:21 |
| imbrandon | yea i had mentioned it but i hadent done much except talk with iwj a bit | 11:22 |
| imbrandon | as of yet | 11:22 |
| imbrandon | wassup ? | 11:22 |
| Lure | I have just seen that ff 2.0 has different ways to theme and that they will need to change ubuntu-theme | 11:22 |
| Lure | so I though that we could potentially influence that a bit... ;-) | 11:22 |
| imbrandon | yup , thats why i was kinda waiting , to see how he changed it for 2.0 | 11:23 |
| imbrandon | yea i had a talk with him after the distro meeting the other day | 11:23 |
| imbrandon | when he changes it for 2.0 he is donna make sure we can theme it too ( along with the other direvitives ) | 11:24 |
| imbrandon | s/donna/gonna | 11:24 |
| imbrandon | once he uploaded his first revision of that i had planed on making the kubuntu changes | 11:24 |
| imbrandon | hrm brb phone | 11:24 |
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| imbrandon | heh | 11:27 |
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| Lure | Riddell: I think I asked this before: why do we have Settings->Printers menu - I would suggest we get rid of it in Edgy and just leave Printers in System Settings. Having two "settings" in menu is confusing... | 11:34 |
| imbrandon | Lure: +1 on the printer thing, it is kinda confusing have it both places | 11:44 |
| Lure | imbrandon: not sure if something else uses Settings (but for sure only Printers is in default install) | 11:45 |
| imbrandon | yea i just looked | 11:45 |
| imbrandon | woot finaly my email list is working again | 11:45 |
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| Lure | imbrandon: were you providing Sime's patched media:/ kde? | 12:06 |
| imbrandon | lure yes | 12:07 |
| imbrandon | its actauly a patched for the file system for /media and others not media:/ its self | 12:07 |
| imbrandon | but hold on | 12:07 |
| Lure | imbrandon: btw, system:/ error on F9 is in edgy kde too (old bug of Tonio_'s patches for system:/) | 12:07 |
| imbrandon | ahh ok | 12:08 |
| imbrandon | cool | 12:08 |
| imbrandon | http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/simes-patches/debs/ | 12:08 |
| imbrandon | you can use that as a repo or just grab the debs | 12:08 |
| imbrandon | either way will work | 12:08 |
| imbrandon | if you use it as a repo "deb http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/simes-patches/debs/ ./" | 12:09 |
| imbrandon | whoop netsplit | 12:10 |
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