=== toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ooh,] === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.160.148] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Seveaz [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:07] Howdy === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-219-193.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:58] hi all [06:28] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings/Minutes [06:28] doctored that up a bit...easy to create a page now, and i created a "Meeting Minutes Template" for it to use as well, actually for everyone to use [06:28] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings/MinutesTemplate [06:28] ^^ template [06:29] i will be working on the minutes in a bit for the last meeting..it is going to take a while, there was a lot on the plate at the past meeting === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === huahua [n=hua@221.172.49.204] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon yawns , heya everyone === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Parkotron [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-103.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:35] hiya Hobbsee [07:35] hi nixternal [07:36] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings/Minutes has gotten a face lift [07:36] and with help of my girlfriend -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings/MinutesTemplate [07:36] with the* [07:37] i need a new keyboard, this one makes me forget words ;) [07:37] nixternal: looks good [07:37] ehe [07:37] the template alright you think? [07:37] yeah, looks good to me [07:37] i dont touch doco, remember? [07:38] hehe, well she was talking about "Meeting Minutes" today that her secretary does for their board meetings, and i was like, how do they look [07:38] so she emailed me a copy, and wallah ;) [07:40] heh i also changed the link to make a new one at the bottom to nixternal [07:40] err put it at the bottom [07:40] looked kinda funny "create new page" right at the top [07:40] only problem though, is it will get pushed down, and people won't notice it after a while [07:40] that is why all doc stuff puts "creates" up top [07:41] umm its used less then ppl visiting [07:41] IE its only used once ever 2 weeks where as people vist the minutes alot more [07:42] true === mayday_jay [n=jason@maydayjay.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Parkotron [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-103.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === huahua [n=hua@221.172.49.204] has joined #kubuntu-devel === huahua [n=hua@221.172.49.204] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.160.148] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === el [n=konversa@u40-30.dsl.vianetworks.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-131-214.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:05] are all the dapper code compiled with gcc 4.0.3 ? [10:05] all the libs i mean ? [10:06] root@voyager:/# gcc -v [10:06] Using built-in specs. [10:06] Target: i486-linux-gnu [10:06] Configured with: ../src/configure -v --enable-languages=c,c++,java,f95,objc,ada,treelang --prefix=/usr --enable-shared --with-system-zlib --libexecdir=/usr/lib --without-included-gettext --enable-threads=posix --enable-nls --program-suffix=-4.0 --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-libstdcxx-debug --enable-java-awt=gtk-default --enable-gtk-cairo --with-java-home=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.0-1.4.2.0/jre --enab [10:06] checking=release i486-linux-gnu [10:06] Thread model: posix [10:06] gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5) [10:06] root@voyager:/# [10:06] ^^ should be compiled with that, thats from a dapper pbuilder [10:07] imbrandon: have you ever seen a QShared segfault ? [10:07] nope , cant say i have [10:08] imbrandon: i'm getting this wierd error on running a Qt app ... i've seen the error before, and it was due to compiler mismatch ... but this time around, all the libs on my system use 4.0.3, and I get the same error [10:09] hrm , can you tell me the app and pastebin the error ? cant garentee i can help but we'll see ;) === chmj [n=chmj@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:29] ping Riddell [10:29] errr [10:29] Riddell: ping [10:29] hi chmj [10:29] hey dude [10:29] got a menute [10:29] ? === chmj must irc more often [10:31] heh [10:38] imbrandon: sorry for the late response ... i was about to pastebin it when konqui crashed on me ... back online now, and will pastebing [10:40] imbrandon: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ZlFhAN81.html [10:44] imbrandon: any ideas ? [11:02] imbrandon: are you around ? [11:02] doh sorry , was afk === imbrandon looks [11:03] imbrandon: np [11:03] ouch hrm, yea i have zero idea tbh Riddell might be able to muster something else more up if he has time [11:04] imbrandon: i strongly doubt that the bt has any useful info anyway ... [11:04] right === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.160.148] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:05] the very same error occurred the last time ... and it was fixed by a recompile :) (due to compiler mismatch) ... [11:05] but now, there isnt any chance of mismatch [11:05] yea gcc hasent been changed in dapper that i am aware of [11:05] because, i have compiled Qt and this app with the same compiler ... gcc 4.0.3 [11:07] Riddell: how much of a pita would it be to get ipodslave in main , so k-d-s can be set ipod:/ when you click the icon on the desktop ( and will amarok use ipodslave if its avaible too afaik from reading the doc's ) [11:07] s/and\ will\ amarok/and\ amarok\ will/g [11:08] probably not too difficult [11:08] I don't think amarok uses ipodslave [11:09] Riddell: any ideas on this ? http://rafb.net/paste/results/ZlFhAN81.html [11:09] i read somewhere in the amarok site / docs that it COULD , i dunno , never tried it or looked past that tough [11:09] though* [11:09] actualy the more i think about it it was in the ipodslave docs i read it when i was doing the libgamin rebuild for it [11:10] anyhow no biggie either way, what would need to be done? something i can file ? would you have to do it ? dunno never tried to get an app in main before [11:11] imbrandon: you coud write the main inclusion report [11:11] insanekane: iz qt bug? [11:11] ok is there a template or past report i can look at to see whats needed ? [11:12] Riddell: i doubt it [11:12] imbrandon: see UbuntuMainInclusionQueue [11:12] okies thanks [11:12] make a new page called MainInclusionReportIpodslave and use the MainInclusionsReportTemplate [11:12] k [11:18] Riddell: please tell me an ipod wouldent be considered "exotic" hardware w.r.t " The package should not deal with exotic hardware which we cannot support. " on the check list hehe [11:18] it wouldn't [11:18] k [11:18] but you could acknowledge that assumption in the report [11:18] k [11:19] my pink ipod is exotic [11:19] yea i think enough of our userbase has ipods tbh, we get questions about how to work them using amarok semi regular in #kubuntu [11:19] lol @ nixternal === chavo [n=chavo@67-22-110-236.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:36] Riddell: is there a progmatic way for my to seach for all the deps to make sure they are in main already without doing it one by one ? [11:37] s/my to seach/me to search [11:43] nvm mind found a way /me headdesks [11:48] Riddell: mind giveing this a once over before i put it in the que https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportIpodslave === pounk_ [n=pounkf@142-217-81-161.telebecinternet.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === huahua_ [n=hua@221.172.50.0] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:14] imbrandon: "Standard debhelper/cdbs/dbs packaging" which? [12:14] imbrandon: pitti will ask why we want this when we already have amarok [12:14] k [12:15] yea i'm rediting [12:15] and he won't let in multiple libpng*,libxft* it'll need to be recompiled against the main version [12:15] ok so just leave those off ? [12:16] see if you can recompile it against the versions of those libraries in main [12:16] k [12:20] Riddell: hi [12:20] do you have any idea why the update script in kubuntu-meta will not work? [12:21] I get ImportError: No module named germinate [12:21] although I have installed the germinate package [12:23] Riddell: ahh it should compile fine aginst just main packages looking in the control file its all main and ${shlibs:Depends}, i did a apt-cache show before to get the deps [12:25] raphink: done an apt-get build-dep kubuntu-meta ? [12:25] ok Riddell updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportIpodslave [12:25] let's see [12:27] Riddell: doesn't work [12:27] I still get can't find Germinate module [12:27] imbrandon: you removed the line about what type of packaging it has [12:27] imbrandon: it still needs to be re-built against main libraries first [12:28] no i dident, i updated it to just saud cdbs [12:28] says* [12:28] imbrandon: oh I see, the formatting is broken at that point [12:28] err yea lemme fix that, and i'll build it agains main [12:28] raphink: dapper or edgy? [12:28] will it need uploaded after its rebuildt for main ? [12:28] edgy in that case [12:29] I think I had the same with dapper though [12:29] I can check [12:30] works on dapper Riddell [12:30] raphink: do you have /usr/lib/germinate/Germinate/__init__.py ? [12:30] let's see [12:30] nope [12:31] hmm yes sorry [12:31] then you don't have germinate installed [12:31] I do [12:31] hmm [12:31] it's there [12:31] then you do and it shouldn't complain [12:32] well it does [12:33] Riddell: I just a wiki page up about the media:/ patches. [12:33] Riddell: you've probably seen it. [12:33] :-) [12:33] heya Sime [12:33] KubuntuKDEMedia did land in my inbox [12:34] imbrandon: hi, your .debs seem to work. [12:35] Sime: yea , the only bug i found so far is the tabs dont show like in your screenshots ( IE the comp name with otheres hidden ) [12:35] and ummm [12:36] there is an error if you open konq and hit f9 i think it is [12:36] when it tries to show system:/ [12:36] other than that its lookin good [12:37] I'm not familiar with F9. [12:37] what does it do? [12:37] just opens system:/ [12:37] one sec i'ma grab a soda [12:37] then i'll give you the exact erorr [12:37] Riddell: I reinstalled germinate on edgy and still get the error [12:38] imbrandon: F9 = Hide Navigation Panel. [12:38] F9 loads the sidebar [12:38] raphink: I'm out of ideas I'm afraid [12:39] :( [12:39] does it work on your machine Riddell? [12:39] note that python fails to installs [12:39] upgrade rather [12:39] for a week or so [12:39] imbrandon: F9 seems to work fine here. [12:40] kk one sec [12:40] imbrandon: you saw that there is now a wiki page for this? [12:42] the problem is libgcj7 [12:44] imbrandon: oh, the comptuer name in the tab I did manually. [12:44] raphink: yes [12:44] Sime: http://imbrandon.sytes.net/ss2.png [12:44] imbrandon: there is not magic there [12:44] raphink: could well be a python issue then [12:44] yes I guess [12:44] raphink: I just did a dist-upgrade today with no notable problems [12:45] really? [12:45] imbrandon: mmm system:/ is broken. [12:45] Sime: thats the error i get when trying to open system:/ now ( and it stays blank like that after ok ) [12:45] I've had python problems for days [12:45] and if I try to force the install [12:46] Sime: yea seems so, no biggie just wanted to let ya know [12:46] it removes debhelper, lintian, kubuntu-desktop and lots of other things [12:46] and I can't put them back === Sime notices some complaining about python yesterday when he upgraded from dapper -> edgy. [12:46] hehe [12:47] trying again [12:47] imbrandon: "system:/" still works here. Why is yours looking for file:///home? [12:48] no idea , heh i have a prettymuch default edgy install, do note that nixternal reporduced it, rather he is the one that showed me [12:48] so i dont think its just my system [12:48] although i wouldent rult it out hehe [12:48] rule* [12:49] sebas: I'm not sure if I can PM you. [12:50] Ah, you probably need to identify with nickserv. [12:50] Sime: if you care to prod the source i used ( its default from edgy + your patches ) they are one directory up from the deb url i gave [12:50] I probably needa real nick first. [12:50] Ah :> [12:50] imbrandon: yes, I'll do some hacking on it this week. [12:50] kk , just poke me and i'll rebuild anytime [01:03] Riddell: do i just put "Rebuilding against main only" in the changelog ? [01:04] ipodslave (0.7.3-0ubuntu3) edgy; urgency=low [01:04] * Rebuild for main inclusion. [01:07] imbrandon: assuming that correctly makes it pick up the correct libraries [01:07] yup, looks like it , its finishing up the build now [01:07] then i'll test it === goldenear [n=goldenea@vol75-4-82-225-33-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:12] goldenear: have you seen the thread on kde-doc-i18n about oskar? [01:13] nop === huahua_ is now known as huahua [01:13] where is it ? [01:15] Riddell: ok all builds and works fine against main olny, so upload that now and add the report to the que ? [01:16] Riddell: where is the thread ? === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@ubuntu/member/ajmitch] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:18] goldenear: on kde-doc-i18n [01:18] imbrandon: sure [01:24] Riddell: ok found it :) [01:24] okies done and done, do i ping pitti now or does it have to wait for a meeting , or ummm now what hehe [01:25] imbrandon: nothing, he'll see your edit and get to it when he has time [01:25] kk === Parkotron [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-103.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-84-192.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzh@fw.zaporizhstal.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:42] Hi! Is there any plans for updating gtk-qt-engine for dapper? [02:42] for me breezy's version was much more better in its job [02:42] for dapper? no. [02:42] for edgy? quite possibly [02:42] why not, dapper is LTS [02:43] !release [02:43] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [02:43] because it's stable, and the features, etc, go into unstable. check that second link. [02:43] serzholino: which was the current version of the gtk-qt-engine? [02:44] 0.60-1.1ubuntu7 [02:45] Version: 0.70-0ubuntu1 is in dapper. cool. [02:45] so that's not out of date [02:46] hi Hobbsee, what's the status of amarok? [02:46] Riddell: they delayed it. [02:47] Riddell: i got on their mailing list though, and have been talking to them in the channel === Hobbsee thought they were going to kick her out, for a while there. [02:47] Hobbsee: hmm.. where i can get it? [02:48] Hobbsee: 'apt-cache policy gtk2-engines-gtk-qt' shows me only 0.60-1.1ubuntu7 [02:48] sorry, in edgy === Hobbsee cant keep the releases straight, it seems. it's been a while since anyone's asked about breezy. === apachelogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === My8os [n=My8os@ppp155-176.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === el [n=konversa@u40-30.dsl.vianetworks.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-72-46.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:29] hi apachelogger [03:29] Hobbsee: ahoy [03:29] Hobbsee: got properly added to amarok-packagers list? [03:30] apachelogger: yep :) === Hobbsee finally figured out how to [03:30] k :) [03:30] never been part of a google groups list before [03:30] well, IMO it's a lot easier with a gmail account [03:31] apachelogger: true that. i just used my @kubuntu.org one [03:44] omg [03:44] ksysguardd is missing an init.d script [03:48] it'll get started by ksysguard === Hobbsee curses the evilness of assignments and online maths quizes. [04:00] bugger. i failed it. [04:05] Riddell: I mean for remote usage [04:06] btw, whom to bug for a template script, which takes care of usual operations, as check for status etc. ... suse does have such a file, makes writing init scripts a whole lot easier [04:08] apachelogger: same thing [04:08] apachelogger: try dh_make [04:10] is there anything in kubuntu for apport? [04:10] seaLne: no [04:10] Riddell: well, deamon is not accessible from remote machine if it's started by ksysguard ... and I don't want to have to run ksysguard in backgroun on every machine in the network ;-) [04:10] mostly because the KDE crash dialogue does most of what apport does [04:11] ah right i was wondering as it sounds similar === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:12] seaLne: also if I did a kde-apport we'd just get more bug reports, most of which belong upstream [04:12] so my plan is to see how it looks in edgy and if it does add something then I'll look at it for edgy+1 [04:13] k === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:18] what was that? [04:22] "Introducing automatic crash reporting in Edgy" mail by pitti on ubuntu-devel-announce [04:41] yay! the evil maths is done! [04:41] seaLne: yeah. my first response to that is "so what happens with kde apps, cos that'd be really cool!" [04:42] KDE apps already have a crash dialogue with backtrace [04:43] Riddell: true, but they dont automatically import to malone, with all the program versions, etc. [04:43] did you see the mail? [04:43] my reluctance is that most crashes are upstream issues [04:44] Riddell: that's also true. [04:44] which is why we could kill off a large section of kde in malone, i guess === apachelogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee wonders if there's any way to separate packaging bugs and bugs upstream. and get them filed in the correct place automatically [04:46] i guess there's the obvious "if there's a backtrace, get it filed upstream". ie, if kcrash has been induced, file it upstream. [04:47] wb apachelogger [04:47] fd [04:47] battery load = 0 that was ;-) [04:47] haha [04:47] i love that [04:47] somehow acpi won't update my battery status === Hobbsee got hit with that during the meeting. [04:47] or actualyl only sometimes [04:47] ah === Hobbsee plain forgot to look :P [04:47] hehe :P [04:48] seems to be a bug with most hp books [04:48] suddenly saw the flashing light and went "ahhh...drat" === Hobbsee counts the hours till the next assignment is due. [04:48] though that batter issue here is really not that serious if you don't forget to plug the book ;-) [04:48] true [04:48] 42 hours, i think.... [04:49] enough time for me to ignore the rest of it for a bit longer. [04:49] apachelogger: must it be tuesday tomorrow? === Hobbsee doesnt like tuesdays. === hunger [n=tobias@p54A6143B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:50] hi toma [04:50] hoi Hobbsee [04:50] ah, bank holiday is that here round :D [04:50] what's a bank holiday anyway? [04:51] we dont get htem [04:51] bugger. tomorrow is tuesday [04:51] *makes mental note to take wallet to uni tomorrow* [04:51] it's like a public holiday, but less formal [04:52] oh nice! [04:52] ie, a public holiday where no one works, or an excuse to be paid at double time and a half? [04:52] ie, do most people stop working? [04:53] actually IMO austrians are most time stop working for any reason :P [04:53] cant say i've met many austrans.... [04:53] if any [04:56] apachelogger: were you referring to australians, or austrians in your above comment? [04:58] austrians :D [04:59] right [05:16] Riddell: you're still planning to announce the kubuntu community manager stuff for the CC in 45 mins? [05:16] i'm going to go to bed, so i cant see the response. [05:17] it's in 45 mins? [05:17] ok [05:17] Riddell: yeah. 2am local time === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-219-193.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seaLne thinks it would be simpler if Hobbsee just switched over to UTC [05:23] utc++ === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:45] Hello === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-219-193.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=skreech@port0002-abm-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _superstoned [n=supersto@168-234.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Parkotron [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-113.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=skreech@196.1.142.242] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:11] Yeah We need some !k entries [07:11] Can I dump all of ubotu's responses? [07:12] ? [07:12] !sound [07:12] If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems [07:13] i keep getting confused reading stuff like that till it suddenly clicks that it's an Ubuntu (Gnome) centric response [07:13] ideally it would just answer differently on #kubuntu [07:14] I would suspect that having a semi detailed explanation on how to fix things like that would be too large to have for both KDE and for gnome [07:14] Yeah I keep hearing that but as it seems no work is going into that for now having a factiod for Kubuntu seems reasonable [07:18] sure, add a k one [07:19] I figured out my sound issue [07:20] Someone clicmbed behind my computer and turned off the speakers [07:20] :-P === Parkotron [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-113.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === el [n=konversa@u40-30.dsl.vianetworks.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mayday_jay [n=jason@gimel.nas.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=skreech@port0002-abm-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:42] seaLne: I didn't know this before, but you can actually add a second clock to the kicker and set it to another timezone. === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-130-129.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:16] Riddell: what is your plan with guidance-p-m in regards to laptop keys? Make this configurable or just hardcode? [08:17] Lure: probably make it configurable, just using the standard KDE global shortcuts settings [08:18] Riddell: since you use KAction, we could just set there KShortcut properly (XF86Standby, XF86Sleep) [08:18] Riddell: then fix the mapping in kmilo [08:19] Riddell: I am just not sure if KAction shortcuts are global or just when widget (menu) is active [08:22] Riddell: just tried - my quick hack does not work - we need to set global shortcut or hal monitoring for key event [08:23] yes, it would need to be a global shortcut [08:25] Riddell: how do you plan to fix polling dbus problem? this 5 sec poll is a bit of load issue (not as big as knemo, but still) [08:26] Argh the fonts look terrible in 3.5.4 [08:26] Lure: side note: knemo 0.4.4 features a /sys backend which reduces the load [08:26] allee: nice, do we have it in edgy (even though I use knm)? [08:27] Lure: either add qt3 mainloop integration to dbus-python or (more likely) just portitto qt 4.2 for edgy+1 === apacheLAGger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:27] port it to [08:27] DaSkreech: true, sub-pixel hinting is off and Lite are used instead of Sans (afair) [08:27] Lure: not yet. I prepared the debian upload today. I'll ask for a sync later [08:27] Looks like someone was taking potshots at it [08:28] Little holes all over the letters === apacheLAGger is now known as apchelogger === apchelogger is now known as apachelogger [08:28] Riddell: ok, we can probably survive with polling for edgy... === superstoned [n=supersto@168-234.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:31] Lure: I agree it sucks, but it's no worse than what klaptopdamon does [08:32] Riddell: very true ;-) === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.109.24] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger is now known as apachelogger === Sp4rKy [n=max@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:50] hi [08:52] please,what can i do when i've "checking whether QTDIR environment variable is set... no" during pbuilding, what can i do ? [08:53] i've added libqt-mt-dev to B-D [08:54] Sp4rKy: you should be able to set the qtdir with an argument to ./configure [08:54] it should be /usr === apachelogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:54] strange [08:57] i've not found any option for ./configure [08:57] and when i try to compil for my system (without pbuild), i need to set QTDIR to /usr/include/qt3 [08:58] what's the application? [08:58] does ./configure | grep qt output anything? [08:58] the application is djplay [08:59] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20577 [08:59] here is my configure option [09:00] what's the build system? [09:04] dapper for pbuilder [09:07] the application's build system [09:07] autotools? [09:07] oups sorry [09:07] yes [09:07] Sp4rKY-laptop% ./configure |grep qt [09:07] configure: error: QTDIR must be properly set. [09:09] not sure, and I'm currently too busy to take a look, wait around until someone is able to look at it [09:10] Sp4rKy: tried setting QTDIR? :p [09:10] heh [09:10] hmm pbuilder [09:10] dunno then [09:10] Sp4rKy: There is no option to configure like --with-qt-lib= and --with-qt-dir= ? [09:11] Sp4rKy: w/o pbuilder, does QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3? [09:11] +work [09:13] work with my sytem but not with pbuilder and libqt-mt-dev in B-D [09:16] bddebian, no, look at my pastebin [09:16] Hmm, is libqt-mt-dev qt3 or 4 now? Can you try libqt3-mt-dev? [09:16] i can try [09:17] bddebian, i already use libqt3-mt-dev :| [09:17] Hmm, --with-plugins-qtdir doesn't let you pass the path? [09:20] Hmm, does libqt3-mt-dev depend libqt3-headers? [09:24] Sp4rKY-laptop% apt-cache depends libqt3-mt-dev |grep header [09:24] Dpend: libqt3-headers [09:25] QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3 ./configure in debian/rules? :) [09:32] mornfall, works with thus :D [09:32] YOUPIII [09:32] thx all for your help [09:35] Sp4rKy: give us a ping if you need the package reviewed [09:35] Riddell, thx :D [09:36] if you want i've some other package which wait for review [09:36] So we can ignore it like the 1000 other packages on REVU ;-P [09:37] bddebian: I don't tend to ignore stuff if people ask me to review it === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.109.24] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:37] Riddell: I know, I am just being a little pissy today sorry :-) I have been trying to help with cleaning up REVU but my skillz are limited :-( [09:38] bddebian, :) [09:39] i seen you work a lot on reviewing === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:54] E: Couldn't find package libjack0.100.0-dev [09:54] W: Unable to locate package libjack0.100.0-dev [09:54] another error ... [10:01] Hmm, yeah, I don't see libjack in Edgy.. [10:01] Oh wait [10:01] SHould be there [10:02] Sp4rKy: Is your pbuilder Edgy? [10:05] no [10:06] but my system is edgy and liibjack is === mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:08] Oh, locally it can't find it either? [10:10] locally o can find it ! [10:15] Are you sure you have Universe/Multiverse enabled in your pbuilderrc? [10:17] i'm update to edgy with a new ~/.pbuilderc [10:17] +r [10:18] ah === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-253-252.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@12.45.200.34] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:14]