[04:07] <bddebian> Howdy
[05:58] <Hobbsee> hi all
[06:28] <nixternal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings/Minutes
[06:28] <nixternal> doctored that up a bit...easy to create a page now, and i created a "Meeting Minutes Template" for it to use as well, actually for everyone to use
[06:28] <nixternal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings/MinutesTemplate
[06:28] <nixternal> ^^ template
[06:29] <nixternal> i will be working on the minutes in a bit for the last meeting..it is going to take a while, there was a lot on the plate at the past meeting
[07:35] <nixternal> hiya Hobbsee
[07:35] <Hobbsee> hi nixternal 
[07:36] <nixternal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings/Minutes has gotten a face lift
[07:36] <nixternal> and with help of my girlfriend ->  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings/MinutesTemplate
[07:36] <nixternal> with the*
[07:37] <nixternal> i need a new keyboard, this one makes me forget words ;)
[07:37] <Hobbsee> nixternal: looks good
[07:37] <Hobbsee> ehe
[07:37] <nixternal> the template alright you think?
[07:37] <Hobbsee> yeah, looks good to me
[07:37] <Hobbsee> i dont touch doco, remember?
[07:38] <nixternal> hehe, well she was talking about "Meeting Minutes" today that her secretary does for their board meetings, and i was like, how do they look
[07:38] <nixternal> so she emailed me a copy, and wallah ;)
[07:40] <imbrandon> heh i also changed the link to make a new one at the bottom to nixternal
[07:40] <imbrandon> err put it at the bottom
[07:40] <imbrandon> looked kinda funny "create new page" right at the top
[07:40] <nixternal> only problem though, is it will get pushed down, and people won't notice it after a while
[07:40] <nixternal> that is why all doc stuff puts "creates" up top
[07:41] <imbrandon> umm its used less then ppl visiting
[07:41] <imbrandon> IE its only used once ever 2 weeks where as people vist the minutes alot more
[07:42] <nixternal> true
[10:05] <insanekane> are all the dapper code compiled with gcc 4.0.3 ?
[10:05] <insanekane> all the libs i mean ?
[10:06] <imbrandon> root@voyager:/# gcc -v
[10:06] <imbrandon> Using built-in specs.
[10:06] <imbrandon> Target: i486-linux-gnu
[10:06] <imbrandon> Configured with: ../src/configure -v --enable-languages=c,c++,java,f95,objc,ada,treelang --prefix=/usr --enable-shared --with-system-zlib --libexecdir=/usr/lib --without-included-gettext --enable-threads=posix --enable-nls --program-suffix=-4.0 --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-libstdcxx-debug --enable-java-awt=gtk-default --enable-gtk-cairo --with-java-home=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.0-1.4.2.0/jre --enab
[10:06] <imbrandon> checking=release i486-linux-gnu
[10:06] <imbrandon> Thread model: posix
[10:06] <imbrandon> gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)
[10:06] <imbrandon> root@voyager:/#                 
[10:06] <imbrandon> ^^ should be compiled with that, thats from a dapper pbuilder
[10:07] <insanekane> imbrandon: have you ever seen a QShared segfault ?
[10:07] <imbrandon> nope , cant say i have
[10:08] <insanekane> imbrandon: i'm getting this wierd error on running a Qt app ... i've seen the error before, and it was due to compiler mismatch ... but this time around, all the libs on my system use 4.0.3, and I get the same error
[10:09] <imbrandon> hrm , can you tell me the app and pastebin the error ? cant garentee i can help but we'll see ;)
[10:29] <chmj> ping Riddell 
[10:29] <chmj> errr
[10:29] <chmj> Riddell: ping 
[10:29] <Riddell> hi chmj 
[10:29] <chmj> hey dude 
[10:29] <chmj> got a menute 
[10:29] <chmj> ?
[10:31] <imbrandon> heh
[10:38] <insanekane> imbrandon: sorry for the late response ... i was about to pastebin it when konqui crashed on me ... back online now, and will pastebing
[10:40] <insanekane> imbrandon: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ZlFhAN81.html
[10:44] <insanekane> imbrandon: any ideas ?
[11:02] <insanekane> imbrandon: are you around ?
[11:02] <imbrandon> doh sorry , was afk
[11:03] <insanekane> imbrandon: np
[11:03] <imbrandon> ouch hrm, yea i have zero idea tbh Riddell might be able to muster something else more up if he has time 
[11:04] <insanekane> imbrandon: i strongly doubt that the bt has any useful info anyway ...
[11:04] <imbrandon> right
[11:05] <insanekane> the very same error occurred the last time ... and it was fixed by a recompile :) (due to compiler mismatch) ...
[11:05] <insanekane> but now, there isnt any chance of mismatch
[11:05] <imbrandon> yea gcc hasent been changed in dapper that i am aware of
[11:05] <insanekane> because, i have compiled Qt and this app with the same compiler ... gcc 4.0.3
[11:07] <imbrandon> Riddell: how much of a pita would it be to get ipodslave in main , so k-d-s can be set ipod:/ when you click the icon on the desktop ( and will amarok use ipodslave if its avaible too afaik from reading the doc's ) 
[11:07] <imbrandon> s/and\ will\ amarok/and\ amarok\ will/g
[11:08] <Riddell> probably not too difficult
[11:08] <Riddell> I don't think amarok uses ipodslave
[11:09] <insanekane> Riddell: any ideas on this ? http://rafb.net/paste/results/ZlFhAN81.html
[11:09] <imbrandon> i read somewhere in the amarok site / docs that it COULD , i dunno , never tried it or looked past that tough
[11:09] <imbrandon> though*
[11:09] <imbrandon> actualy the more i think about it it was in the ipodslave docs i read it when i was doing the libgamin rebuild for it
[11:10] <imbrandon> anyhow no biggie either way, what would need to be done? something i can file ? would you have to do it ? dunno never tried to get an app in main before
[11:11] <Riddell> imbrandon: you coud write the main inclusion report
[11:11] <Riddell> insanekane: iz qt bug?
[11:11] <imbrandon> ok is there a template or past report i can look at to see whats needed ?
[11:12] <insanekane> Riddell: i doubt it
[11:12] <Riddell> imbrandon: see UbuntuMainInclusionQueue
[11:12] <imbrandon> okies thanks
[11:12] <Riddell> make a new page called MainInclusionReportIpodslave and use the MainInclusionsReportTemplate
[11:12] <imbrandon> k
[11:18] <imbrandon> Riddell: please tell me an ipod wouldent be considered "exotic" hardware w.r.t " The package should not deal with exotic hardware which we cannot support. " on the check list hehe
[11:18] <Riddell> it wouldn't
[11:18] <imbrandon> k
[11:18] <Riddell> but you could acknowledge that assumption in the report
[11:18] <imbrandon> k
[11:19] <nixternal> my pink ipod is exotic
[11:19] <imbrandon> yea i think enough of our userbase has ipods tbh, we get questions about how to work them using amarok semi regular in #kubuntu
[11:19] <imbrandon> lol @ nixternal
[11:36] <imbrandon> Riddell: is there a progmatic way for my to seach for all the deps to make sure they are in main already without doing it one by one ?
[11:37] <imbrandon> s/my to seach/me to search
[11:43] <imbrandon> nvm mind found a way /me headdesks
[11:48] <imbrandon> Riddell: mind giveing this a once over before i put it in the que https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportIpodslave
[12:14] <Riddell> imbrandon: "Standard debhelper/cdbs/dbs packaging" which?
[12:14] <Riddell> imbrandon: pitti will ask why we want this when we already have amarok
[12:14] <imbrandon> k
[12:15] <imbrandon> yea i'm rediting
[12:15] <Riddell> and he won't let in multiple libpng*,libxft* it'll need to be recompiled against the main version
[12:15] <imbrandon> ok so just leave those off ?
[12:16] <Riddell> see if you can recompile it against the versions of those libraries in main
[12:16] <imbrandon> k
[12:20] <raphink> Riddell: hi
[12:20] <raphink> do you have any idea why the update script in kubuntu-meta will not work?
[12:21] <raphink> I get ImportError: No module named germinate
[12:21] <raphink> although I have installed the germinate package
[12:23] <imbrandon> Riddell: ahh it should compile fine aginst just main packages looking in the control file its all main and ${shlibs:Depends}, i did a apt-cache show before to get the deps
[12:25] <Riddell> raphink: done an apt-get build-dep kubuntu-meta ?
[12:25] <imbrandon> ok Riddell updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportIpodslave
[12:25] <raphink> let's see
[12:27] <raphink> Riddell: doesn't work
[12:27] <raphink> I still get can't find Germinate module
[12:27] <Riddell> imbrandon: you removed the line about what type of packaging it has
[12:27] <Riddell> imbrandon: it still needs to be re-built against main libraries first
[12:28] <imbrandon> no i dident, i updated it to just saud cdbs
[12:28] <imbrandon> says*
[12:28] <Riddell> imbrandon: oh I see, the formatting is broken at that point
[12:28] <imbrandon> err yea lemme fix that, and i'll build it agains main
[12:28] <Riddell> raphink: dapper or edgy?
[12:28] <imbrandon> will it need uploaded after its rebuildt for main ?
[12:28] <raphink> edgy in that case
[12:29] <raphink> I think I had the same with dapper though
[12:29] <raphink> I can check
[12:30] <raphink> works on dapper Riddell
[12:30] <Riddell> raphink: do you have /usr/lib/germinate/Germinate/__init__.py ?
[12:30] <raphink> let's see
[12:30] <raphink> nope
[12:31] <raphink> hmm yes sorry
[12:31] <Riddell> then you don't have germinate installed
[12:31] <raphink> I do
[12:31] <Riddell> hmm
[12:31] <raphink> it's there
[12:31] <Riddell> then you do and it shouldn't complain
[12:32] <raphink> well it does
[12:33] <Sime> Riddell: I just a wiki page up about the media:/ patches.
[12:33] <Sime> Riddell: you've probably seen it.
[12:33] <Sime> :-)
[12:33] <imbrandon> heya Sime
[12:33] <Riddell> KubuntuKDEMedia did land in my inbox
[12:34] <Sime> imbrandon: hi, your .debs seem to work.
[12:35] <imbrandon> Sime: yea , the only bug i found so far is the tabs dont show like in your screenshots ( IE the comp name with otheres hidden )
[12:35] <imbrandon> and ummm
[12:36] <imbrandon> there is an error if you open konq and hit f9 i think it is 
[12:36] <imbrandon> when it tries to show system:/
[12:36] <imbrandon> other than that its lookin good
[12:37] <Sime> I'm not familiar with F9.
[12:37] <Sime> what does it do?
[12:37] <imbrandon> just opens system:/
[12:37] <imbrandon> one sec i'ma grab a soda
[12:37] <imbrandon> then i'll give you the exact erorr
[12:37] <raphink> Riddell: I reinstalled germinate on edgy and still get the error
[12:38] <Sime> imbrandon: F9 = Hide Navigation Panel.
[12:38] <Riddell> F9 loads the sidebar
[12:38] <Riddell> raphink: I'm out of ideas I'm afraid
[12:39] <raphink> :(
[12:39] <raphink> does it work on your machine Riddell?
[12:39] <raphink> note that python fails to installs
[12:39] <raphink> upgrade rather
[12:39] <raphink> for a week or so
[12:39] <Sime> imbrandon: F9 seems to work fine here.
[12:40] <imbrandon> kk one sec
[12:40] <Sime> imbrandon: you saw that there is now a wiki page for this?
[12:42] <raphink> the problem is libgcj7
[12:44] <Sime> imbrandon: oh, the comptuer name in the tab I did manually.
[12:44] <Riddell> raphink: yes
[12:44] <imbrandon> Sime: http://imbrandon.sytes.net/ss2.png
[12:44] <Sime> imbrandon: there is not magic there 
[12:44] <Riddell> raphink: could well be a python issue then
[12:44] <raphink> yes I guess
[12:44] <Riddell> raphink: I just did a dist-upgrade today with no notable problems
[12:45] <raphink> really?
[12:45] <Sime> imbrandon: mmm system:/ is broken.
[12:45] <imbrandon> Sime: thats the error i get when trying to open system:/ now ( and it stays blank like that after ok )
[12:45] <raphink> I've had python problems for days
[12:45] <raphink> and if I try to force the install
[12:46] <imbrandon> Sime: yea seems so, no biggie just wanted to let ya know
[12:46] <raphink> it removes debhelper, lintian, kubuntu-desktop and lots of other things
[12:46] <raphink> and I can't put them back
[12:46] <imbrandon> hehe 
[12:47] <raphink> trying again
[12:47] <Sime> imbrandon: "system:/" still works here. Why is yours looking for file:///home?
[12:48] <imbrandon> no idea , heh i have a prettymuch default edgy install, do note that nixternal reporduced it, rather he is the one that showed me
[12:48] <imbrandon> so i dont think its just my system
[12:48] <imbrandon> although i wouldent rult it out hehe
[12:48] <imbrandon> rule*
[12:49] <Sime> sebas: I'm not sure if I can PM you.
[12:50] <sebas> Ah, you probably need to identify with nickserv.
[12:50] <imbrandon> Sime: if you care to prod the source i used ( its default from edgy + your patches )  they are one directory up from the deb url i gave
[12:50] <Sime> I probably needa real nick first.
[12:50] <sebas> Ah :>
[12:50] <Sime> imbrandon: yes, I'll do some hacking on it this week.
[12:50] <imbrandon> kk , just poke me and i'll rebuild anytime
[01:03] <imbrandon> Riddell: do i just put "Rebuilding against main only" in the changelog ?
[01:04] <imbrandon> ipodslave (0.7.3-0ubuntu3) edgy; urgency=low
[01:04] <imbrandon>   * Rebuild for main inclusion.
[01:07] <Riddell> imbrandon: assuming that correctly makes it pick up the correct libraries
[01:07] <imbrandon> yup, looks like it , its finishing up the build now
[01:07] <imbrandon> then i'll test it
[01:12] <Riddell> goldenear: have you seen the thread on kde-doc-i18n about oskar?
[01:13] <goldenear> nop
[01:13] <goldenear> where is it ?
[01:15] <imbrandon> Riddell: ok all builds and works fine against main olny, so upload that now and add the report to the que ?
[01:16] <goldenear> Riddell: where is the thread ?
[01:18] <Riddell> goldenear: on kde-doc-i18n
[01:18] <Riddell> imbrandon: sure
[01:24] <goldenear> Riddell: ok found it :)
[01:24] <imbrandon> okies done and done, do i ping pitti now or does it have to wait for a meeting , or ummm now what hehe
[01:25] <Riddell> imbrandon: nothing, he'll see your edit and get to it when he has time
[01:25] <imbrandon> kk
[02:42] <serzholino> Hi! Is there any plans for updating gtk-qt-engine for dapper?
[02:42] <serzholino> for me breezy's version was much more better in its job
[02:42] <Hobbsee> for dapper?  no.
[02:42] <Hobbsee> for edgy?  quite possibly
[02:42] <serzholino> why not, dapper is LTS
[02:43] <Hobbsee> !release
[02:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[02:43] <Hobbsee> because it's stable, and the features, etc, go into unstable.  check that second link.
[02:43] <Hobbsee> serzholino: which was the current version of the gtk-qt-engine?
[02:44] <serzholino> 0.60-1.1ubuntu7
[02:45] <Hobbsee> Version: 0.70-0ubuntu1 is in dapper.  cool.
[02:45] <Hobbsee> so that's not out of date
[02:46] <Riddell> hi Hobbsee, what's the status of amarok?
[02:46] <Hobbsee> Riddell: they delayed it.
[02:47] <Hobbsee> Riddell: i got on their mailing list though, and have been talking to them in the channel
[02:47] <serzholino> Hobbsee: hmm.. where i can get it?
[02:48] <serzholino> Hobbsee: 'apt-cache policy gtk2-engines-gtk-qt' shows me only 0.60-1.1ubuntu7
[02:48] <Hobbsee> sorry, in edgy
[03:29] <Hobbsee> hi apachelogger 
[03:29] <apachelogger> Hobbsee: ahoy
[03:29] <apachelogger> Hobbsee: got properly added to amarok-packagers list?
[03:30] <Hobbsee> apachelogger: yep :)
[03:30] <apachelogger> k :)
[03:30] <Hobbsee> never been part of a google groups list before
[03:30] <apachelogger> well, IMO it's a lot easier with a gmail account
[03:31] <Hobbsee> apachelogger: true that. i just used my @kubuntu.org one
[03:44] <apachelogger> omg
[03:44] <apachelogger> ksysguardd is missing an init.d script
[03:48] <Riddell> it'll get started by ksysguard
[04:00] <Hobbsee> bugger.  i failed it.
[04:05] <apachelogger> Riddell: I mean for remote usage
[04:06] <apachelogger> btw, whom to bug for a template script, which takes care of usual operations, as check for status etc. ... suse does have such a file, makes writing init scripts a whole lot easier
[04:08] <Riddell> apachelogger: same thing
[04:08] <Riddell> apachelogger: try dh_make
[04:10] <seaLne> is there anything in kubuntu for apport?
[04:10] <Riddell> seaLne: no
[04:10] <apachelogger> Riddell: well, deamon is not accessible from remote machine if it's started by ksysguard ... and I don't want to have to run ksysguard in backgroun on every machine in the network ;-)
[04:10] <Riddell> mostly because the KDE crash dialogue does most of what apport does
[04:11] <seaLne> ah right i was wondering as it sounds similar
[04:12] <Riddell> seaLne: also if I did a kde-apport we'd just get more bug reports, most of which belong upstream
[04:12] <Riddell> so my plan is to see how it looks in edgy and if it does add something then I'll look at it for edgy+1
[04:13] <seaLne> k
[04:18] <Hobbsee_> what was that?
[04:22] <seaLne> "Introducing automatic crash reporting in Edgy" mail by pitti on ubuntu-devel-announce
[04:41] <Hobbsee> yay!  the evil maths is done!
[04:41] <Hobbsee> seaLne: yeah.  my first response to that is "so what happens with kde apps, cos that'd be really cool!"
[04:42] <Riddell> KDE apps already have a crash dialogue with backtrace
[04:43] <Hobbsee> Riddell: true, but they dont automatically import to malone, with all the program versions, etc.  
[04:43] <Hobbsee> did you see the mail?
[04:43] <Riddell> my reluctance is that most crashes are upstream issues
[04:44] <Hobbsee> Riddell: that's also true.
[04:44] <Hobbsee> which is why we could kill off a large section of kde in malone, i guess
[04:46] <Hobbsee> i guess there's the obvious "if there's a backtrace, get it filed upstream".  ie, if kcrash has been induced, file it upstream.
[04:47] <Hobbsee> wb apachelogger 
[04:47] <apachelogger> fd
[04:47] <apachelogger> battery load = 0 that was ;-)
[04:47] <Hobbsee> haha
[04:47] <Hobbsee> i love that
[04:47] <apachelogger> somehow acpi won't update my battery status
[04:47] <apachelogger> or actualyl only sometimes
[04:47] <Hobbsee> ah
[04:47] <apachelogger> hehe :P
[04:48] <apachelogger> seems to be a bug with most hp books
[04:48] <Hobbsee> suddenly saw the flashing light and went "ahhh...drat"
[04:48] <apachelogger> though that batter issue here is really not that serious if you don't forget to plug the book ;-)
[04:48] <Hobbsee> true
[04:48] <Hobbsee> 42 hours, i think....
[04:49] <Hobbsee> enough time for me to ignore the rest of it for a bit longer.
[04:49] <Hobbsee> apachelogger: must it be tuesday tomorrow?
[04:50] <Hobbsee> hi toma 
[04:50] <toma> hoi Hobbsee
[04:50] <apachelogger> ah, bank holiday is that here round :D
[04:50] <Hobbsee> what's a bank holiday anyway?
[04:51] <Hobbsee> we dont get htem
[04:51] <Hobbsee> bugger.  tomorrow is tuesday
[04:51] <Hobbsee> *makes mental note to take wallet to uni tomorrow*
[04:51] <Riddell> it's like a public holiday, but less formal
[04:52] <Hobbsee> oh nice!
[04:52] <Hobbsee> ie, a public holiday where no one works, or an excuse to be paid at double time and a half?
[04:52] <Hobbsee> ie, do most people stop working?
[04:53] <apachelogger> actually IMO austrians are most time stop working for any reason :P
[04:53] <Hobbsee> cant say i've met many austrans....
[04:53] <Hobbsee> if any
[04:56] <Hobbsee> apachelogger: were you referring to australians, or austrians in your above comment?
[04:58] <apachelogger> austrians :D
[04:59] <Hobbsee> right
[05:16] <Hobbsee> Riddell: you're still planning to announce the kubuntu community manager stuff for the CC in 45 mins?
[05:16] <Hobbsee> i'm going to go to bed, so i cant see the response.
[05:17] <Riddell> it's in 45 mins?
[05:17] <Riddell> ok
[05:17] <Hobbsee> Riddell: yeah.  2am local time
[05:23] <apachelogger> utc++
[05:45] <bddebian> Hello
[07:11] <DaSkreech> Yeah We need some !k entries
[07:11] <DaSkreech> Can I dump all of ubotu's responses?
[07:12] <Riddell> ?
[07:12] <DaSkreech> !sound
[07:12] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:13] <DaSkreech> i keep getting confused reading stuff like that till it suddenly clicks that it's an Ubuntu (Gnome) centric response
[07:13] <Riddell> ideally it would just answer differently on #kubuntu
[07:14] <DaSkreech> I would suspect that having a semi detailed explanation on how to fix things like that would be too large to have for both KDE and for gnome
[07:14] <DaSkreech>  Yeah I keep hearing that but as it seems no work is going into that for now having a factiod for Kubuntu seems reasonable
[07:18] <Riddell> sure, add a k one
[07:19] <DaSkreech> I figured out my sound issue
[07:20] <DaSkreech> Someone clicmbed behind my computer and turned off the speakers
[07:20] <DaSkreech> :-P
[07:42] <Sime> seaLne: I didn't know this before, but you can actually add a second clock to the kicker and set it to another timezone.
[08:16] <Lure> Riddell: what is your plan with guidance-p-m in regards to laptop keys? Make this configurable or just hardcode?
[08:17] <Riddell> Lure: probably make it configurable, just using the standard KDE global shortcuts settings
[08:18] <Lure> Riddell: since you use KAction, we could just set there KShortcut properly (XF86Standby, XF86Sleep)
[08:18] <Lure> Riddell: then fix the mapping in kmilo 
[08:19] <Lure> Riddell: I am just not sure if KAction shortcuts are global or just when widget (menu) is active
[08:22] <Lure> Riddell: just tried - my quick hack does not work - we need to set global shortcut or hal monitoring for key event
[08:23] <Riddell> yes, it would need to be a global shortcut
[08:25] <Lure> Riddell: how do you plan to fix polling dbus problem? this 5 sec poll is a bit of load issue (not as big as knemo, but still)
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Argh the fonts look terrible in 3.5.4
[08:26] <allee> Lure: side note: knemo 0.4.4 features a /sys backend which reduces the load
[08:26] <Lure> allee: nice, do we have it in edgy (even though I use knm)?
[08:27] <Riddell> Lure: either add qt3 mainloop integration to dbus-python or (more likely) just portitto qt 4.2 for edgy+1
[08:27] <Riddell> port it to
[08:27] <Lure> DaSkreech: true, sub-pixel hinting is off and Lite are used instead of Sans (afair)
[08:27] <allee> Lure: not yet.  I prepared the debian upload today. I'll ask for a sync later
[08:27] <DaSkreech> Looks like someone was taking potshots at it
[08:28] <DaSkreech> Little holes all over the letters
[08:28] <Lure> Riddell: ok, we can probably survive with polling for edgy...
[08:31] <Riddell> Lure: I agree it sucks, but it's no worse than what klaptopdamon does
[08:32] <Lure> Riddell: very true ;-)
[08:50] <Sp4rKy> hi
[08:52] <Sp4rKy> please,what can i do when i've "checking whether QTDIR environment variable is set... no" during pbuilding, what can i do ?
[08:53] <Sp4rKy> i've added libqt-mt-dev to B-D
[08:54] <Riddell> Sp4rKy: you should be able to set the qtdir with an argument to ./configure
[08:54] <Riddell> it should be /usr
[08:54] <Sp4rKy> strange
[08:57] <Sp4rKy> i've not found any option for ./configure
[08:57] <Sp4rKy> and when i try to compil for my system (without pbuild), i need to set QTDIR to /usr/include/qt3
[08:58] <Riddell> what's the application?
[08:58] <Riddell> does ./configure | grep qt   output anything?
[08:58] <Sp4rKy> the application is djplay
[08:59] <Sp4rKy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20577
[08:59] <Sp4rKy> here is my configure option
[09:00] <Riddell> what's the build system?
[09:04] <Sp4rKy> dapper for pbuilder
[09:07] <Riddell> the application's build system
[09:07] <Riddell> autotools?
[09:07] <Sp4rKy> oups sorry
[09:07] <Sp4rKy> yes
[09:07] <Sp4rKy> Sp4rKY-laptop% ./configure |grep qt 
[09:07] <Sp4rKy> configure: error: QTDIR must be properly set.
[09:09] <Riddell> not sure, and I'm currently too busy to take a look, wait around until someone is able to look at it
[09:10] <mornfall> Sp4rKy: tried setting QTDIR? :p
[09:10] <bddebian> heh
[09:10] <mornfall> hmm pbuilder
[09:10] <mornfall> dunno then
[09:10] <bddebian> Sp4rKy: There is no option to configure like --with-qt-lib= and --with-qt-dir= ?
[09:11] <mornfall> Sp4rKy: w/o pbuilder, does QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3?
[09:11] <mornfall> +work
[09:13] <Sp4rKy> work with my sytem but not with pbuilder and libqt-mt-dev in B-D
[09:16] <Sp4rKy> bddebian, no, look at my pastebin
[09:16] <bddebian> Hmm, is libqt-mt-dev qt3 or 4 now?  Can you try libqt3-mt-dev?
[09:16] <Sp4rKy> i can try
[09:17] <Sp4rKy> bddebian, i already use libqt3-mt-dev :|
[09:17] <bddebian> Hmm, --with-plugins-qtdir doesn't let you pass the path?
[09:20] <bddebian> Hmm, does libqt3-mt-dev depend libqt3-headers?
[09:24] <Sp4rKy> Sp4rKY-laptop% apt-cache depends libqt3-mt-dev |grep header
[09:24] <Sp4rKy>   Dpend: libqt3-headers
[09:25] <mornfall> QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3 ./configure in debian/rules? :)
[09:32] <Sp4rKy> mornfall, works with thus :D
[09:32] <Sp4rKy> YOUPIII
[09:32] <Sp4rKy> thx all for your help
[09:35] <Riddell> Sp4rKy: give us a ping if you need the package reviewed
[09:35] <Sp4rKy> Riddell, thx :D
[09:36] <Sp4rKy> if you want i've some other package which wait for review
[09:36] <bddebian> So we can ignore it like the 1000 other packages on REVU ;-P
[09:37] <Riddell> bddebian: I don't tend to ignore stuff if people ask me to review it
[09:37] <bddebian> Riddell: I know, I am just being a little pissy today sorry :-)  I have been trying to help with cleaning up REVU but my skillz are limited :-(
[09:38] <Sp4rKy> bddebian, :)
[09:39] <Sp4rKy> i seen you work a lot on reviewing
[09:54] <Sp4rKy> E: Couldn't find package libjack0.100.0-dev
[09:54] <Sp4rKy> W: Unable to locate package libjack0.100.0-dev
[09:54] <Sp4rKy> another error ...
[10:01] <bddebian> Hmm, yeah, I don't see libjack in Edgy..
[10:01] <bddebian> Oh wait
[10:01] <bddebian> SHould be there
[10:02] <bddebian> Sp4rKy: Is your pbuilder Edgy?
[10:05] <Sp4rKy> no
[10:06] <Sp4rKy> but my system is edgy and liibjack is
[10:08] <bddebian> Oh, locally it can't find it either?
[10:10] <Sp4rKy> locally o can find it !
[10:15] <bddebian> Are you sure you have Universe/Multiverse enabled in your pbuilderrc?
[10:17] <Sp4rKy> i'm update to edgy with a new ~/.pbuilderc
[10:17] <Sp4rKy> +r
[10:18] <bddebian> ah
[11:14] <Lure> anybody else have problem on edgy when dist-upgrade wants to remove adept, kubuntu-desktop...?
[11:20] <Lure> imbrandon: hi
[11:21] <imbrandon> moins Lure 
[11:21] <Lure> imbrandon: did you mention that you plan to do something about firefox kde integration for edgy?
[11:22] <imbrandon> yea i had mentioned it but i hadent done much except talk with iwj a bit
[11:22] <imbrandon> as of yet
[11:22] <imbrandon> wassup ?
[11:22] <Lure> I have just seen that ff 2.0 has different ways to theme and that they will need to change ubuntu-theme
[11:22] <Lure> so I though that we could potentially influence that a bit... ;-)
[11:23] <imbrandon> yup , thats why i was kinda waiting , to see how he changed it for 2.0
[11:23] <imbrandon> yea i had a talk with him after the distro meeting the other day
[11:24] <imbrandon> when he changes it for 2.0 he is donna make sure we can theme it too ( along with the other direvitives )
[11:24] <imbrandon> s/donna/gonna
[11:24] <imbrandon> once he uploaded his first revision of that i had planed on making the kubuntu changes
[11:24] <imbrandon> hrm brb phone
[11:27] <imbrandon> heh
[11:34] <Lure> Riddell: I think I asked this before: why do we have Settings->Printers menu - I would suggest we get rid of it in Edgy and just leave Printers in System Settings. Having two "settings" in menu is confusing...
[11:44] <imbrandon> Lure: +1 on the printer thing, it is kinda confusing have it both places
[11:45] <Lure> imbrandon: not sure if something else uses Settings (but for sure only Printers is in default install)
[11:45] <imbrandon> yea i just looked
[11:45] <imbrandon> woot finaly my email list is working again
[12:06] <Lure> imbrandon: were you providing Sime's patched media:/ kde?
[12:07] <imbrandon> lure yes
[12:07] <imbrandon> its actauly a patched for the file system for /media and others not media:/ its self
[12:07] <imbrandon> but hold on
[12:07] <Lure> imbrandon: btw, system:/ error on F9 is in edgy kde too (old bug of Tonio_'s patches for system:/)
[12:08] <imbrandon> ahh ok
[12:08] <imbrandon> cool
[12:08] <imbrandon> http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/simes-patches/debs/
[12:08] <imbrandon> you can use that as a repo or just grab the debs
[12:08] <imbrandon> either way will work
[12:09] <imbrandon> if you use it as a repo "deb http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/simes-patches/debs/ ./"
[12:10] <imbrandon> whoop netsplit