[12:08] <TheHighChild> martamius: I just gave this link to jinho, it may help you http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42030
[12:09] <martamius> yeah, i did all that. the only solution that worked for that guy was a reinstall
[12:09] <lmosher> Anyone here make video DVDs and if so what program?
[12:10] <Search4Lancer> man, I loooove having zero charge on my battery, even though my laptop has been plugged in for weeks and weeks
[12:11] <martamius> TheHighChild: that didn't work.
[12:11] <martamius> theHighChild: i keep getting this: Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[12:12] <oem> sit house
[12:12] <oem> sit house
[12:12] <oem> sit house
[12:12] <oem> sit house
[12:12] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <TheHighChild> martamius: Try using the partition location that grub was install into
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <TheHighChild> stfu oem
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <martamius> TheHighChild: it was installed on the MBR
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:13] <oem> sit house
[12:14] <Tm_T> thanks
[12:14] <TheHighChild> thanks
[12:14] <Tm_T> sorry my slowness, I always forget how this works :p
[12:14] <hybrid> ph33r Tm_T
[12:15] <Tm_T> hi hybrid :)
[12:15] <martamius> so, i guess my best bet is a kubuntu reinstall?
[12:16] <TheHighChild> martamius: No, your best bet is to talk to someone that isn't as stupid as I am
[12:16] <hybrid> hey Tm_T
[12:16] <Tm_T> martamius: what's the problem?
[12:16] <TheHighChild> martamius: There is always a way. I am just not too familiar with grub, sorry. Tried to explain what I knew, which isn't much
[12:16] <martamius> im trying to reinstall grub because my fresh windows install wiped it
[12:16] <Tm_T> aah
[12:17] <Tm_T> I see
[12:17] <Tm_T> !grub
[12:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:17] <martamius> and grub-install from live isn't working
[12:17] <Tm_T> ok, how it doesn't work
[12:17] <martamius> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[12:17] <Tm_T> hmm
[12:17] <martamius> when i do sudp grub-install /dev/hda
[12:18] <martamius> from dapper live
[12:18] <martamius> sudo*
[12:18] <CylonSix> Anyone here?
[12:18] <TheHighChild> CylonSix: yeah
[12:18] <CylonSix> Don't suppose you could help me with a problem?
[12:18] <TheHighChild> CylonSix: I can try
[12:18] <Tm_T> !helpme
[12:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:19] <KUBUNTU> .
[12:19] <Tm_T> martamius: interesting :)
[12:20] <CylonSix> Well, I keep trying to access the root from Konsole, and it prompts for the password, now I never set a root password but I assume it's supposed to be the same as the password for the user I created...well, I try me user password and it says that it's incorrect.
[12:20] <CylonSix> Any ideas?
[12:20] <Tm_T> CylonSix: sudo su -> your password
[12:20] <Tm_T> ;)
[12:21] <CylonSix> ok, thanks.
[12:21] <CylonSix> I'll boot to Kubuntu and try that.
[12:22] <TheHighChild> CylonSix: I tried to say this earlier but you took off, to enter a root shell, you can type 'sudo -i' that will put you into a root session, to leave you can type 'exit' That's if you need a root shell, to perform a single command as root, you can use 'sudo' in front of the command
[12:22] <SpAwN> is there anyway to get  newer win versions other then building from source?
[12:22] <TheHighChild> lol, and again
[12:22] <Tm_T> martamius: did you check those urls ubotu gave?
[12:23] <martamius> yeah, the first one didnt work, but im try update-grub now...
[12:23] <Tm_T> TheHighChild: and I thought I'm slow ;)
[12:24] <TheHighChild> Tm_T: eh, watching a movie. I try to be snappy but it doesn't usually work that way
[12:24] <Tm_T> hehe
[12:24] <martamius> ubdate-grub just seems to hang, though
[12:24] <SpAwN> u think its safe to use these ? http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[12:24] <TheHighChild> not to mention, people can't stay for more than 20 seconds if their question isn't answered
[12:25] <Tm_T> TheHighChild: well, I'm too old to answer in 20 seconds
[12:25] <SpAwN> !wine
[12:25] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:25] <TheHighChild> Tm_T: I usually don't know what people are talking about. I just google shiat for them. lol
[12:25] <Tm_T> =)
[12:26] <martamius> ok, well my live install just crashed
[12:26] <rictoo_> how come all of my full screen games dont run in fullscreen?
[12:26] <rictoo_> they run with a window, and black all around them
[12:26] <martamius> ttyl
[12:29] <TheHighChild> rictoo_ try pressing alt+ enter and see if that helps. I run enemy territory and I have to do that to get fullscreen
[12:34] <CylonSix> Ok so I tried the sudo su, but still when I try and mount a drive Konsole returns with "Only root can do that" :P
[12:36] <CylonSix> anyone here?
[12:36] <Festyur> why does synaptic look this way? http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/6949/snapshot1vh2.png
[12:36] <Festyur> CylonSix: me
[12:36] <Sanne> CylonSix: the command would be "sudo mount ...", not sudo su
[12:37] <Tm_T> well, yeah
[12:37] <CylonSix> well, I can't get it to even let me in root for some reason :P
[12:38] <CylonSix> I tried going to file "Root Shell" and what not, typing password in, brings me back to Konsole, and then I type mount /dev/hda3/ /mnt/hda3/ and it says Only Root Can Do That
[12:40] <CylonSix> Anyone have any ideas?
[12:40] <Sanne> CylonSix: try it this way please: open a regular konsole as your normal user, and type :  sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/hda3
[12:41] <CylonSix> alright, I'll brb then
[12:42] <lmosher> What's th command do install my current kernel's source?
[12:43] <nutshell42> lmosher: apt-get install linux-source-<something>
[12:43] <lmosher> nutshell42, ok ty lol
[12:44] <Sanne> lmosher: make very sure the <something> fits your running kernel exactly
[12:44] <lmosher> Sanne, Yeah I checked my uname -r
[12:44] <Sanne> lmosher: uname -r
[12:44] <Sanne> :)
[12:45] <Festyur> why does synaptic look this way? http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/6949/snapshot1vh2.png
[12:45] <lmosher> Sanne, when it installs it, where will it be? /usr/src/linux/?
[12:45] <Sanne> lmosher: dunno exactly, you can check this on packages.ubuntu.com on the package's page further down
[12:45] <lmosher> ok ty
[12:46] <Sanne> lmosher: search for where it says "Download ..." and click on "list of files"
[12:47] <nutshell42> lmosher: dpkg -L linux-source-<something>
[12:47] <Tintin> Is GLX / Compiz stable for use?
[12:47] <nutshell42> but iirc it was in /usr/src/<something>
[12:48] <nutshell42> Tintin: xgl or glx?
[12:48] <AKA_foley> how to use tv out i have s3 savage 4 card
[12:48] <Tintin> nutshell42: Don't know...
[12:48] <AKA_foley> can sombody help me
[12:48] <Tintin> nutshell42: I was just wondering if I should try it out... and looking for a tutorial.
[12:48] <nutshell42> Tintin: glx is an extension for x.org, whether it's stable and usable depends on your graphics card drivers
[12:49] <Tintin> Ok, I use intel 810
[12:49] <nutshell42> compiz is semi-stable
[12:49] <nutshell42> I wouldn't use it for my everyday system
[12:49] <Cylon6> Sanne, to no avail :(
[12:49] <Tintin> nutshell42: Ok, thanks. I'll wait till after I hand in my thesis then...
[12:49] <nutshell42> if you don't just want it for the eye-candy (or if you can live with a bit less eye-candy)
[12:50] <Sanne> Cylon6: that is *very* peculiar...
[12:50] <nutshell42> you could use the composite extension instead
[12:50] <Cylon6> Indeed.
[12:50] <Sanne> Cylon6: same error message?
[12:50] <nutshell42> (if the intel driver supports it accelerated...no idea, check google)
[12:50] <nutshell42> it's more stable
[12:50] <Tintin> nutshell42: That will also give me transparency?
[12:50] <Cylon6> no, not the same error message, just nothing in the /mnt/ folder :P
[12:50] <nutshell42> and if it crashes it generally crashes gracefully
[12:50] <nutshell42> yes
[12:50] <AKA_foley> can sombody help me
[12:50] <nutshell42> not quite as spectacular
[12:50] <jinho> nutshell: hey
[12:50] <AKA_foley> how to use tv out i have s3 savage 4 card
[12:51] <nutshell42> but also transparent
[12:51] <Tintin> nutshell42: Ok, I'll take a look at it. thanks.
[12:51] <nutshell42> jinho: and, does it work? =)
[12:51] <Cylon6> it asked me for my password, it put it in, after that command you gave me, and then, it just left me a blank line as if to put in another command.
[12:51] <jinho> nutshell42: hey- apparently menu.lst shows- but it doesnt load...
[12:51] <Sanne> Cylon6: aha! So you *could* mount it this time. Does the folder where you want to mount the device exist, then?
[12:51] <Cylon6> Yes
[12:51] <jinho> nutshell42: the menu shows...but grub cant mount the linux partitions- and the windows drives just wont even load period
[12:51] <Sanne> Cylon6: how did you try to access the mounted folder?
[12:52] <Cylon6> I have dialup, and can't access the internet from Kubuntu...the device is a fat32 partition so I might transfer files from the windows side which can use the net to the Linux side that cannot.
[12:53] <Sanne> Cylon6: this is fine, but how did you try to look into the mounted folder?
[12:53] <Cylon6> and I clicked on the hard drive on my desktop, which brought me to the root folder, and I just went down to where it said /mnt/
[12:53] <pappua> Hello I am trying to build KDE in ubunti 6.  I am getting this error message.  Can some one please help.  I am trying to build according to instructions on this page http://developer.kde.org/build/trunk.html
[12:53] <Sanne> Cylon6: and /mnt is empty?
[12:53] <Cylon6> yes.
[12:53] <Nuked> pappua: on the bleeding edge huh
[12:53] <pappua> error message
[12:53] <pappua> - Looked for GIF libraries named gif;libgif;ungif;libungif;giflib.
[12:53] <pappua> -- Found no acceptable GIF library. This is fatal.
[12:53] <pappua> CMake Error: Error in cmake code at
[12:53] <pappua> /home/kdedev/kdelibs/cmake/modules/FindGIF.cmake:40:
[12:53] <pappua> MESSAGE Could NOT find GIF
[12:53] <bgrimm> A WEP question: if I use "iwconfig <iface> key s:<string>" the string value never computes to the proper key, is it default to 64 bit and I need to change it to 128 somehow? The original passphrase was setup to use 128 bit WEP.
[12:54] <pappua> how can i get these libraries into  ubuntu
[12:54] <Sanne> Cylon6: (btw, please type my name so I get notified when you reply) Then there's no folder in /mnt where you can access your data. You have to create it manually before mounting.
[12:56] <Cylon6> Sanne, so I should create a folder for this hard drive to be accessed in? so make an empty folder "Shared" or whatever, and make the command now sudo mount /dev/hda3/ /mnt/Shared/hda3 ?
[12:57] <Sanne> Cylon6: close ;) You can , for example, make a folder /mnt/hda3 and do: sudo mount /dev/hda3/ /mnt/hda3
[12:57] <Cylon6> ohhhh...I get it now :P
[12:58] <Sanne> Cylon6: you can name the created folder anythin you want, it doesn't need to be hda3
[12:58] <Cylon6> Sanne, thank you! :) I'm a newbie to Linux shell commands really, and this helped me get a more visualized concept of the filesystem...Still learning, as always! :)
[12:59] <Sanne> Cylon6: you could make a folder /mnt/windows and mount it with: sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/windows
[12:59] <Sanne> Cylon6: cool, glad I could help :)
[01:02] <Nuked> can I make Konsole transparent like I can with eterm ?
[01:02] <Nuked> Eterm -f white -n DeskTerm -O -x --buttonbar false --scrollbar false
[01:03] <Nuked> is there an equivalent for konsole
[01:03] <Nuked> ?
[01:03] <Tm_T> Nuked: well, yes
[01:04] <tsdgeos> settings -> scheme -> transparent
[01:04] <Tm_T> as fake transparency as in Eterm
[01:04] <tsdgeos> of course
[01:04] <tsdgeos> succky transparency
[01:04] <Nuked> thats not what im talking about Tm_T
[01:04] <Nuked> try the command I gave you and see
[01:05] <Tm_T> Nuked: I know I know, I have Eterm and Konsole with fake transparency in the desktop already :p
[01:06] <Nuked> are you sure, because I tried tsdgeos method and thats not what im looking for
[01:06] <Nuked> I want it to seem as if I am typing on the desktop
[01:06] <Tm_T> Nuked: no, you can't get Konsole totally borderless
[01:07] <Nuked> Tm_T: awww damn ...
[01:07] <Nuked> is there another terminal besides eterm this will work with?
[01:07] <Tm_T> yeah, that's why I have Eterm there too
[01:07] <Tm_T> hmm, aterm maybe
[01:07] <Nuked> because eterms fonts are killing me
[01:08] <Tm_T> haha
[01:08] <Tm_T> I like my current
[01:09] <Nuked> aterm is worse than eterm
[01:10] <Tm_T> old pic: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png
[01:10] <sorush2> hi guys how do I remove a module that is already in use?
[01:11] <Nuked> Tm_T: finnish huh
[01:11] <Nuked> whats that on the right hand side
[01:11] <Tm_T> Nuked: no, you're mistaken, it's not finnish, it's siansaksaa
[01:11] <Tm_T> Nakkel: conky? or kicker?
[01:11] <Tm_T> or, err, desklist of kopere?
[01:12] <tsdgeos> sorush2: rmmod
[01:12] <Nuked> no I meant kubuntu-fi
[01:13] <Nuked> and I was talking about the thing that says yankees
[01:13] <Tm_T> no, it's fi as FunnyIsh
[01:13] <Tm_T> Nuked: desklist
[01:13] <Nuked> cool
[01:15] <Tm_T> and that "yankees" group is joke :p
[01:16] <foot> Bearcat: hello
[01:17] <Bearcat> foot: there you are
[01:18] <Bearcat> foot: beep?
[01:19] <Bearcat> foot: beep?
[01:19] <Nuked> whats the path to kde
[01:19] <foot> Bearcat: beep
[01:21] <Nuked> dude whats the path to kde on kubuntu?
[01:21] <Nuked> "/usr/bin/kde?"
[01:21] <phreak__> Nuked: the path is long and dangerous
[01:21] <Nuked> lol
[01:21] <soulrider> Tm_T: do you still have that wallpaper?
[01:22] <Nuked> but im going to compile that desklist plugin
[01:22] <Tm_T> soulrider: that? humm, yes, actually I should make another version of it
[01:22] <rx_> is it possible to upgrade ubuntu to kubuntu without reinstalling? i know i could just install kdm, uninstall gdm, etc...doing it all by hand but it would be lenghtly....
[01:22] <soulrider> :O:O
[01:22] <soulrider> can i get it pleae? :P
[01:22] <soulrider> please*
[01:22] <Tm_T> soulrider: hmm, not until I get kubuntu logo instead of ubuntu
[01:22] <Nuked> i did which kopete and I got usr bin kopete
[01:23] <Tm_T> Nuked: /usr/bin
[01:23] <soulrider> iok
[01:23] <Tm_T> soulrider: then you might find it in edgy repositories ;)
[01:23] <Tm_T> you never know
[01:23] <soulrider> :)
[01:24] <Nuked> what wallpaper?
[01:24] <CylonSix> Ok, here's a question, how do I change the permissions of a folder? :P It's not letting me under properties, it's all grayed out...
[01:24] <Nuked> immutable?
[01:25] <Nuked> configure: error: Could not find Kopete header files
[01:25] <Nuked> hmm...
[01:25] <nutshell42> CylonSix: kdesu konqueror
[01:25] <nutshell42> CylonSix: the problem's most likely that you don't have permission to change the permissions =)
[01:25] <CylonSix> nutshell42, uhm...but I'm the administrator...
[01:26] <nutshell42> Nuked: apt-get install kopete-dev
[01:26] <nutshell42> CylonSix: what exactly do you want to do?
[01:26] <Nuked> nutshell42: figured as much
[01:26] <CylonSix> nutshell42, change the write permissions for the /mnt folder, since I can't create a folder there that I need...
[01:26] <nutshell42> Nuked: if it doesn't find them after that look for a ./configure option to specify the path to the header files
[01:27] <ym4546> hi i was wondering if someone could help me with a samba problem i'm having
[01:27] <nutshell42> CylonSix: you can't create it as root?
[01:27] <waikeung> hi. i just installed firefox in kubuntu.. how do i run it?
[01:27] <crimsun> it should be in your K menu.
[01:27] <ym4546> under internet
[01:27] <nutshell42> waikeung: look for it in kmenu->internet
[01:28] <waikeung> oh i see ty i;m a newbie.. after 2 days of mindwracking and pc restarts to make a usb modem works
[01:28] <CylonSix> nutshell42, i've tried the command sudo mkdir /mnt/hda3 and to no avail.
[01:29] <Bearcat> foot: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:30] <ym4546> i have a samba share, but when i go to it in windows explorer (on a winxp box), it says access denied
[01:30] <ym4546> if i go to entire network, and click on my ubuntu computer's name, it lists the shared printers, but it can't view the share....i'm on kubuntu 6.06
[01:30] <waikeung> btw what good progs i can use to view lots of different codes video. I'm used to mpc on my windows partition
[01:30] <Bearcat> foot: http://www.elijahlofgren.com/linux/ubuntu/multimedia/#java-plugin
[01:30] <waikeung> *codecs
[01:31] <ym4546> waikeung: vlc
[01:31] <ym4546> go to nightlies.vlc.org, it'll give you a repo to download vlc 0.8.5, cuz the ubuntu repository only has the 0.8.4 version
[01:32] <CylonSix> nutshell42, I can't send you anything because I'm unregistered...
[01:32] <waikeung> thx a lot
[01:32] <CylonSix> Does this place use nickserv?
[01:32] <TheHighChild> Hey guys, question. A lot of times when I am watching you tube or something, i don't get any sound. I have to quit firefox and type 'killall artsd' then retry and it works. Anyway to avoid this?
[01:32] <tsdgeos> CylonSix: yes
[01:32] <nutshell42> CylonSix: what do you want to send me?
[01:32] <Ubuntu-Newbie> omg someone already owns this XD..
[01:34] <Nuked> Tm_T: I dont see the plugin
[01:35] <Tm_T> Nuked: have you restarted kopete?
[01:35] <Nuked> yes
[01:35] <Kiongku> is 2.6.15-26 the latest kernel for the kubuntu distro?
[01:35] <Tm_T> hmm, interesting
[01:35] <Tm_T> Kiongku: to stable yes
[01:36] <foot> help help, I am trying to install fash, enable mp3's and such while taking a break from doing the mythtv and ivtv install and I keep getting a mythtv error.
[01:36] <damian_> anyone here use gnome?
[01:36] <nutshell42> Nuked: did you really restart kopete, i.e. did you make sure it was no longer in the systray? and where did you install the plugin? you might have to use ./configure --prefix=/usr to make sure it's in the default dirs on kubuntu
[01:36] <nutshell42> damian_: you're in kubuntu
[01:36] <damian_> nutshell: I know, but everyone in ubuntu is not responding to my question
[01:36] <nutshell42> oh
[01:37] <Tm_T> Nuked: whoops, my bad, I remembered wrong prefix ;(
[01:37] <Nuked> shit, usr/bin is where i put it
[01:37] <nutshell42> what's your question?
[01:37] <Kiongku> lol..
[01:37] <damian_> I want to know how to get gnome to stop displaying my drives on my desktop
[01:37] <foot> Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20492
[01:37] <Kiongku> i just got hell to put kubuntu.. i not going to modify it too heavily for now XD
[01:38] <Tm_T> good night ->
[01:38] <nutshell42> damian_: well, there is an option in kde, but most likely not in gnome (they hate options), you probably have to use gconf
[01:38] <damian_> nutshell42: ok
[01:38] <ym4546> i have a samba share, but when i go to it in windows explorer (on a winxp box), it says access denied
[01:38] <ym4546> if i go to entire network, and click on my ubuntu computer's name, it lists the shared printers, but it can't view the share....i'm on kubuntu 6.06
[01:38] <ym4546> any idea?
[01:38] <Nuked> nutshell42:  its there now
[01:39] <Kiongku> can someone send me the link to vlc again.
[01:39] <ym4546> vlc.nightlies.org
[01:39] <ym4546> i think
[01:39] <Kiongku> ah
[01:39] <Kiongku> nightlies.vlc.org u gave me that and it returned me naught :P
[01:39] <ym4546> sorry...nightlies.videolan.org
[01:39] <ym4546> my bda
[01:39] <ym4546> *bad
[01:40] <nutshell42> damian_: sry, tried a google search but found nothing useful
[01:40] <Nuked> ym4546: is it worth installing the nightlies?
[01:40] <ym4546> its not a nightly
[01:40] <Kiongku> ty
[01:40] <ym4546> Nuked: it gives a repository with the final release version of 0.8.5
[01:41] <Nuked> I thought I had 0.8.5 source already installed
[01:41] <Kiongku> i thought its not final
[01:41] <Kiongku> it says experimental
[01:42] <Nuked> VLC media player 0.8.5 Janus
[01:42] <nutshell42> does anyone know how I can get an un-ubuntified cups without having to compile it myself?
[01:43] <nutshell42> my printer doesn't work like it should and I'm pretty sure ubuntu's part of the problem
[01:44] <damian_> nutshell42: that worked beautifully, thanks
[01:46] <nutshell42> damian_: no problem, next time switch to kde instead =P
[01:46] <damian_> nutshell42: I was using KDE but wanted to try gnome
[01:46] <Kiongku> how to add a key?
[01:47] <otaku-san> hey does any know what and where this is? pyGTK 2.6+
[01:48] <nutshell42> otaku-san: apt-get install python-gtk2
[01:48] <Kiongku> =\.. i tried to install vlc but it says break
[01:48] <otaku-san> nutshell42: ok I was trying pygtk hehe
[01:49] <Nuked> how do I block a person from imming me in kopete?
[01:49] <Kiongku> anyone can help me?
[01:51] <Nuked> Kiongku: whats going on?
[01:54] <ubuntu_> hi im running the latest version of kubuntu live dvd. does anyone know the root password for su in shell ?
[01:55] <gnomefreak> !root
[01:55] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:55] <nutshell42> ubuntu_: sudo -i
[01:55] <ubuntu_> su
[01:55] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_: might want to read that
[01:55] <nutshell42> su
[01:55] <nutshell42> doesn't work
[01:55] <nutshell42> because root isn't enabled by default
[01:56] <otaku-san> ok....I'm trying to run <http://pyradar.sourceforge.net/index-old.htm> a weather radar.  I installed in correctly and everytime I tried a odd error came up complaining about a line.  So I found out I was missing a pack...just installed..tried to run the program and this came up
[01:56] <ubuntu_> cool thanks
[01:56] <otaku-san> well I'll paste it on paste bin
[01:58] <otaku-san> here http://pastebin.ca/130265
[02:01] <ym4546> anybody got any samba idea
[02:01] <ym4546> on my previous question
[02:04] <nutshell42> ym4546: look for a samba howto or tutorial
[02:04] <nutshell42> ym4546: security = user
[02:04] <nutshell42> should basically make samba use your unix users on that server for authentication
[02:04] <nutshell42> but it's not quite that easy
[02:05] <nutshell42> then
[02:05] <nutshell42> browseable = yes
[02:05] <nutshell42> valid users = <whoever you want>
[02:05] <nutshell42> will make it available from windows
[02:05] <Bearcat> foot:  in a terminal window as not root, type "xhost +localhost"
[02:06] <alterato> Hi all. Does anyone know if any of the repos have packages for zsnes?
[02:07] <alterato> I've enabled all repos listed in Adept, guess what I need to ask is if there is a 3rd party repo that might have it?
[02:08] <LeeJunFan> Man windoze is lame - it won't accept a dhcp offer unless it can reach the internet, just keeps rejecting the offers.
[02:12] <damian_> !games
[02:12] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[02:12] <systest> kubuntu 6.06, system sees new usb drive but will not allow me to mount it (yes, I'm in the plugdev group) any suggestions what to check/config?
[02:12] <alterato> thank you damian
[02:13] <Bearcat> foot: apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[02:14] <QMario> What is oneko?
[02:14] <ubuntu_> is chkdsk included on the live dvd ? i can run fdsk but chkdsk says command not found ?
[02:16] <ym4546> nutshell42: thanx
[02:22] <actinic> Kubuntu now has a distributed Folding team!
[02:22] <actinic> http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=51238
[02:22] <actinic> join up
[02:22] <actinic> and let's kick some ass
[02:24] <nutshell42> fsck the folding, tell me why me kde doesn't want to print =P
[02:24] <actinic> i'll tell you once you join
[02:25] <actinic> :)
[02:29] <nutshell42> actinic: k, I d/led the client, I won't do anything with it until you've solved my problem =)
[02:36] <zipper> actinic, i joined as well for the fun of it
[02:37] <actinic> thanks guys
[02:38] <edgarin> Hello to all I have a problem
[02:38] <edgarin> I want install ltsp in kubuntu
[02:38] <edgarin> the ltsp is running
[02:38] <edgarin> but the mouse serial in the terminal not workds
[02:43] <intelikey> if i was to install nvidia drivers    how do i know what driver i need???     (assume legacy)
[02:44] <actinic> nutshell42, describe the prob for me
[02:44] <actinic> !nvidia
[02:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:44] <intelikey> if i was to install nvidia drivers    how do i know what driver i need???     (assume legacy)
[02:45] <zipper__> !nvidia intelikey
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia intelikey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <zipper__> !nvidia > intelikey
[02:46] <intelikey> if i was to install nvidia drivers    how do i know what driver i need???     (assume legacy)
[02:46] <actinic> !nvidia
[02:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:46] <intelikey> yall don't seem to take a hint.
[02:46] <zipper__> read the guide. The answer to your question is in it
[02:46] <MasterEvilAce> what's the deal with the whole "Hard drive not checked" for 30 boots.. forced checking.. what is the point of that
[02:46] <zipper__> it's even in the beginning as far as i remember
[02:46] <intelikey> it's much easier to say "i don't know."  than to just piss people off with a bot posting.
[02:47] <zipper__> stop trolling, and just read the guide, and ask if you encounter any problems
[02:47] <intelikey> zipper i read the guide
[02:47] <zipper__> what trouble did you encounter then?
[02:49] <intelikey> so anyone know how to determine if i need the legacy driver or not ?
[02:49] <charles1952> Hi...newbie to Kubuntu here....any suggestions about which runtime package of Java I should install???
[02:49] <zipper__> intelikey, you didnt read the guide. I know, cus' i just skimmed through it, and found this link for you which exactly tells you which card uses which driver : http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-a.html
[02:49] <intelikey> charles1952 try   apt-cache search java
[02:50] <zipper__> intelikey, next time, do the legwork yourself, you're probably going to do a lot of it at some point anyway
[02:50] <intelikey> you can show more info on any listing there by using apt-cache show <package name>
[02:50] <charles1952> well...I have done an adept search and it comes up with 8 or 9 different Java runtime environments....is there one in particulaar that works best?
[02:51] <waikeung> hi anyone knows how to make vlc read .mkv video files?
[02:51] <intelikey> charles1952 that i couldn't answer.  i don't do java.
[02:51] <charles1952> okay...I'll give it a try...thanks
[02:51] <actinic> !nvidia
[02:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:51] <Kiongku> hello?
[02:53] <actinic> zipper, what kinda rig do u own for folding?
[02:53] <zipper__> intelikey, at no point should you feel obligated to thank me for doing all the work for you. I just love being people's little helper when they feel lazy.
[02:53] <zipper__> actinic, overcloced d805 + celeron m 420 laptop
[02:53] <zipper__> overclocked*
[02:54] <actinic> well better that than overlooked :)
[02:54] <zipper__> actinic, dont know how passionate i'll be about running the program though
[02:54] <actinic> just keep you're eyes out on the temps
[02:54] <Kiongku> anyone knows how to read .mkv video files in kubuntu?
[02:54] <actinic> and i understand
[02:55] <zipper__> temperature shouldn't be a problem. It's "only" overclocked from 2.66ghz to 3.33ghz, and i have a zalman 9500 cooler on it
[02:55] <intelikey> Kiongku not sure you can, but if so install the proper codec for them.
[02:55] <actinic> lol, 'only'
[02:55] <zipper__> it's on stock vcore (!)
[02:55] <zipper__> stable as well
[02:56] <intelikey> !codecs
[02:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:56] <zipper__> tomshardware managed to get one to 4.1ghz where it outperformed an Amd x2 4200 :)
[02:56] <actinic> of course mine's an opteron running 2.9 from 2 stock :)
[02:56] <intelikey> hehhe oh forgot i was ignoring the bot.
[02:56] <zipper__> and the d805 is like, 100$ theese days
[02:56] <actinic> good stuff
[02:56] <zipper__> opteron is a good cpu as well
[02:57] <Kiongku> thx intelikey
[02:57] <zipper__> intelikey, dont mention it. It came out a little more harsh than intended
[02:57] <intelikey> np
[02:58] <Kr4t05> !VB
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about VB - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <actinic> yeah, temps aren't too bad either, about 48C full tilt boogy
[02:58] <Kr4t05> ><
[02:58] <Bearcat> foot: libdvdcss2
[02:58] <zipper__> still room for a lot of overclocking then :)
[02:58] <actinic> yep, can't wait for winter! :)
[02:58] <zipper__> hehe
[02:59] <Kr4t05> zipper__: You talking about the Intel Pentium D OC beast?
[02:59] <zipper__> actually, my cpu is only running 3.00ghz as well... became a little unstable when the summer hit us
[02:59] <zipper__> Kr4t05, yeah
[02:59] <zipper__> well, mainly the d805
[02:59] <actinic> well folding is certainly a good test
[02:59] <zipper__> since it's such a good overclocking cpu for such a low price
[03:00] <Kr4t05> zipper__: I'm thinking about getting one for my next machine, but I may opt for a Mac Mini. Not sure yet.
[03:00] <actinic> is the 805 a dual?
[03:00] <zipper__> actinic, yes
[03:00] <Kr4t05> actinic: Yep
[03:00] <actinic> i know crap about intel
[03:00] <actinic> hehe
[03:00] <Jucato> enzo: draik?
[03:01] <zipper__> Kr4t05, well, if you can afford it, you should go for a conroe. But the performance you can get from a 100$ cpu with a 25$ cooling unit on it is indeed appealing
[03:01] <zipper__> actinic, me2
[03:01] <zipper__> actinic, i've always, always been an amd-guy
[03:01] <intelikey> so let me ask one more time, and keep the bot out of this.  is there a way to tell which nvidia driver to try when that wiki page doesn't mention it ????????
[03:02] <zipper__> intelikey, i gave you a direct link for that before
[03:02] <zipper__> "intelikey, you didnt read the guide. I know, cus' i just skimmed through it, and found this link for you which exactly tells you which card uses which driver : http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-a.html"
[03:02] <actinic> zipper__, same here
[03:02] <intelikey> anyone have any idea ?
[03:02] <zipper__> intelikey, yes! And i've already told you my idea 2 times
[03:04] <zipper__> actinic, but at the time i bought my setup, amd had nothing to offer that could compare to the price/performance of the d805. Only other option really, was the x2, but it was before the conroe was released, so it wasn't exactly cheap at the time
[03:04] <Jucato> intelikey: have you tried reading from the Ubuntu Documentation Storage Facility (UDSF)? I think they have a guide there on which nvidia driver to try
[03:05] <intelikey> udsf   no.  all i have tried was that wiki that ubotu knows.   got a url on that ?
[03:05] <Ashex> !pastebin > Ashex
[03:05] <zipper__> intelikey, what card do you have?
[03:06] <zipper__> intelikey, you can probably find it by typing 'lspci' or 'lspci | grep nvidia'
[03:06] <zipper__> if you dont know already
[03:06] <niklaz> Um, yes.. I'm having a problem with qt3.  It says I have it but it's not working when I'm trying to install a screensaver.
[03:06] <niklaz> I installed the -dev packages but still.
[03:06] <Jucato> intelikey: I'm not entirely sure. I'm on irssi now (pure console), so I couldn't really check...
[03:07] <Jucato> intelikey: sorry...
[03:07] <foot> Bearcat: xhost +localhost
[03:07] <Ashex> hmmm
[03:07] <intelikey> Jucato k  thanks for the pointer   i'll go see what i can find.
[03:07] <Ashex> I seem to have run into a problem while trying to apt-get gtk+ dev files
[03:07] <soulrider> !seen tk
[03:07] <Ashex> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20500
[03:07] <ubotu> I last saw tk (i=tk@211.169.134.235) 21m 30s ago, quiting: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
[03:07] <soulrider> oh damn!
[03:07] <niklaz> So can anybody help me? x_x
[03:08] <actinic> zipper__, have you been generally pleased with the 805?
[03:08] <actinic> celeron, right?
[03:08] <Jucato> niklaz: I might be wrong, but I think the command should have been "lspci | grep nVidia". I'm not sure how to make grep ignore cases
[03:09] <niklaz> Eh?
[03:09] <zipper__> actinic, so far, yes. And no, it's called the "Pentium d805"
[03:09] <Agios> lspci | grep -i nvidia
[03:09] <niklaz> Jucato: I don't have nvidia.. o.O
[03:09] <zipper__> i'm very pleased with it, although i am considering getting a conroe... accoriding to reviews, they seem quite good
[03:09] <Jucato> Agios: cool! thanks
[03:10] <intelikey> Jucato -i == case insensitive
[03:10] <Jucato> yeah, thanks :-D
[03:10] <Jucato> gotta go. gotta restart @_@
[03:10] <foot> Bearcat:
[03:10] <foot> Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20501
[03:10] <Agios> I think I'm going for the Conroe E6700. But not until around March.
[03:10] <workhurtsme> hey guys, I am a new linux user, and I have been using kubuntu (dapper drake 64 bit) for about a week now on my amd 64 bit 3500. I cannot get my filesharing to enable though. it prompts me for my password in the system settings, then nothing. anyone else experience this?
[03:11] <zipper__> Agios, why not untill march?
[03:11] <niklaz> I have a 3200+..
[03:11] <niklaz> file sharing with what/
[03:11] <niklaz> *?
[03:11] <Agios> zipper__: Won't have the $ until then LOL
[03:11] <zipper__> niklaz, my guess is samba
[03:11] <zipper__> Agios, oh okay :)
[03:11] <niklaz> What's samba?
[03:11] <niklaz> o_O
[03:11] <Agios> zipper__: And hopefully prices will drop some by then.
[03:12] <zipper__> niklaz, windows filesharing? nfs?
[03:12] <workhurtsme> well, samba is working to view the windows box, however my kubuntu box won't let me set up filesharing...so the other linux box we have can see this one
[03:12] <foot> Bearcat: http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html
[03:12] <niklaz> eh, no, that was the other dudes problem.
[03:12] <zipper__> Agios, hopefully... i can't see myself paying for one of those at the prices they are at now
[03:12] <niklaz> mine is installing screensavers.
[03:12] <niklaz> :)
[03:12] <workhurtsme> i have three computers, 1 windows, 2 kubuntus. i just want them to see eachother and be able to share.
[03:12] <niklaz> network.. foward ports..?
[03:13] <niklaz> oh
[03:13] <niklaz> what zipper said, samba
[03:13] <zipper__> niklaz, i know, but you were asking "file sharing with what?"
[03:13] <niklaz> oh
[03:13] <niklaz> okay.
[03:13] <niklaz> :)
[03:14] <zipper__> workhurtsme, you should look into "samba" and/or "nfs"
[03:14] <zipper__> !samba
[03:14] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:14] <zipper__> there you go
[03:14] <Ashex> how do I check the locations of my sound card for alsa?
[03:15] <intelikey> Ashex lshw   lspci    cat /proc/asound/cards     just what are you wanting to know ?
[03:15] <workhurtsme> well my samba works fine to see my windows box and all that
[03:15] <workhurtsme> my problem is that this kubuntu machine won;'t share its files. the other kubuntu machine can't see it either. this machine con only "view" the windows machine.
[03:15] <nuaimat> hi , anyone from jordan ??
[03:16] <Ashex> intelikey, I'm trying to tweak cedega so i get sound in my games, i need the location of the ctl device and the pcm device
[03:16] <ivan`> does restoring from sleep mode crash the kernel for anyone else?
[03:16] <zipper__> workhurtsme, hmm, not sure what the problem is, have you read the guides for clues?
[03:17] <intelikey> Ashex ah  look in /dev/sound/    for that   iirc
[03:17] <Ashex> intelikey, you mean /dev/snd?
[03:17] <intelikey> yeah maybe.
[03:17] <intelikey> heh
[03:17] <Ashex> :P
[03:18] <intelikey> i don't have either.
[03:18] <Ashex> i've got a few things that look like it, controlC0  pcmC0D0c  pcmC0D0p  pcmC0D1c  timer
[03:18] <Ashex> I'll just try a combination of them and see what happens
[03:18] <intelikey> documentation on alsa might clear it up
[03:18] <workhurtsme> well, i have tried the forums, and read a bit, but i can't seem to figure anything out in regards to my problem. For some reason when I am in the settings, and try to enable network fielsharing and try to enter "administration mode" it does nothing. Once I enter my password it still has the grey screen and no changable information. So, I think everything would work, if kubuntu would just actually enable filesharing so the other comp
[03:18] <workhurtsme> uters could see it.
[03:19] <Ashex> !alsa > Ashex
[03:20] <dreadyburnz> anyone help me with getting easy unbuntu to work please?
[03:20] <intelikey> workhurtsme could launch kcontrol as root
[03:20] <intelikey> assuming that's the app
[03:20] <Bearcat> foot: ls /lib/modules/
[03:21] <workhurtsme> kcontrol?
[03:21] <foot> Bearc2.6.15-23-386  2.6.15-26-386  ivtv-fw-dec.bin  ivtv-fw-enc.binat:
[03:21] <Bearcat> foot: uname -r
[03:22] <foot> Bearcat : 2.6.15-26-386at:
[03:22] <intelikey> workhurtsme yeah isn't that the app that  menu > system settings    launches ?   you could pstree or top to find out
[03:23] <Ashex> workhurtsme, you need to install samba-servecr
[03:23] <Ashex> or something with samba
[03:23] <workhurtsme> okay
[03:23] <Ashex> it's an odd fluke in kubuntu
[03:23] <Ashex> I have the same problem
[03:23] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, what problems are you having?
[03:23] <workhurtsme> where can i get that package or whatever?>
[03:24] <intelikey> oh you don't have samba installed ?    yeah to share to windows you need samba
[03:24] <Ashex> workhurtsme, check adept
[03:24] <zipper__> workhurtsme, you can get new packages from "adept" which is in system -> adept
[03:24] <intelikey> samba - a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix
[03:25] <intelikey> !info samba
[03:25] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 2778 kB, installed size 7080 kB
[03:25] <dreadyburnz> just really started playing around with ubuntu so a bit clueless to how it all works etc, just need someone to talk me through installing easy ubuntu so i can get the audio and vids working
[03:26] <workhurtsme> okay thanks guys, i will be back shortly.
[03:26] <Ashex> dreadyburnz, have you downloaded it?
[03:26] <Ashex> !easyubuntu
[03:26] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:26] <dreadyburnz> i did but then i deleted it cos not sure of what version i need or anything
[03:27] <Ashex> go to link mentioned above to download
[03:27] <dreadyburnz> that website aint working at moment
[03:27] <Ashex> okay
[03:27] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, well, there's a pretty good guide here : https://launchpad.net/products/easyubuntu
[03:27] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, feel free to ask if you encounter any problems using that guide
[03:28] <dreadyburnz> il have a look now cheers ppl :)
[03:28] <Ashex> dreadyburnz, you can grab the one i use off my site, http://local.chipnick.com/~ahmed/easyubuntu-3.022.tar.gz
[03:28] <killdashnine> i keep getting this message when i login
[03:28] <intelikey> i wish mt nvidia card was in a list so i could know which driver might work...
[03:28] <killdashnine> pam_winbind write to socket failed!
[03:28] <killdashnine> in /var/log/auth.log
[03:28] <killdashnine> how would i be able to better debug the reason behind this?
[03:28] <zipper__> dreadyburnz,  well, either the one i pasted or http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[03:28] <dreadyburnz> also just 1 more 4 ya, how do i enable thelike system tray?
[03:28] <Gh0st75> trying to run the install for java and konsole needs me to log in as root, the password for that, is it one i would have set during the install of kubuntu? i tried the password i use to log into kubuntu but that wasn't accepted
[03:29] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, system tray? enable it? I'm not sure what you want to do, please explain
[03:29] <zipper__> Gh0st75, yes, it's the one you set in the install
[03:29] <Gh0st75> hmm, not accepting it for some reason
[03:30] <zipper__> Gh0st75, hmm, it should be identical to the pass you use to login with your regular user
[03:30] <dreadyburnz> well when i installed ubuntu there was 2 menus 1 at top and 1 at the bottom, but deleted the top one so now just have a start menu at the bottom, like the system tray where gaim etc would usually minimise to?
[03:30] <Gh0st75> yep, tried it several times
[03:30] <intelikey> Gh0st75 test this command    sudo echo yes      and when it asks for a pass give yours.
[03:31] <Gh0st75> ok, did that
[03:31] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, i use kde, so i cant remember the names too well, but you can right click your one bar, and then add more stuff to it, or even add a whole other panel (system tray)
[03:31] <intelikey> did it say "yes" ?
[03:31] <Gh0st75> yes it did
[03:31] <dreadyburnz> yeah been on the add to panel but cant find a system tray one :(
[03:31] <zipper__> you sure you not mistyped the pass before Gh0st75? It seems like it's accepting the one you're using
[03:32] <intelikey> well kill the install and run it with   sudo prepended
[03:32] <Gh0st75> positive, tried it multiple times
[03:32] <Gh0st75> no even installing anythin yet, first step on the java site's instructions says to go to terminal and type su then my password, that's as far as i got, lol
[03:33] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, ah, i can't recall it's name, but you can get to see a whole list (with icons for each one) of different actions/applications you want to launch. Near the bottom of that list, theres something i think is called "Application Manager" or something like that. Try adding that one to the panel
[03:33] <intelikey> no   do sudo <scriptname>
[03:33] <Gh0st75> i just have the bin file downloaded
[03:34] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, not the synaptic application though, but i can't remember its name too well, i'm using kde atm
[03:34] <posthuman> i'm getting an error when trying to run frostwire on kubuntu (edgy I know) :P...it is runFrost.sh: 44: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}")
[03:34] <posthuman> line 44 is   potential_java_dirs=(`ls -d1 "$JAVADIR" /j*`)
[03:34] <zipper__> Gh0st75, ah, thats why
[03:34] <posthuman> would anyone know how to fix that?
[03:34] <zipper__> Gh0st75, (k)ubuntu doesnt have a root user (well it does, but well, simplified, it doesnt)
[03:34] <intelikey> Gh0st75 so  sudo java*.bin
[03:34] <Gh0st75> ok, will try that
[03:35] <zipper__> Gh0st75, so you have to do as intelikey says, use 'sudo' for each time you'd need root access
[03:35] <intelikey> Gh0st75 you know java is in the repos   and can be installed via the package manager don't you.
[03:35] <bonggnu> hi, i cannot connect a computer in my lan to my server , throw xdmcp, both are kubuntu box, where ir /var/log/ could i check for errors messages?
[03:35] <darkyoshi372> hi all, is there a way to get smooth scrolling in firefox, like in Kopete?
[03:36] <Agios> posthuman: I might try taking the ( and ) out. But it's hard to tell from one line :)
[03:36] <zipper__> posthuman, have you read the java guide? frostwire needs java. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c249
[03:36] <Gh0st75> i tried that intelikey, but i still wasn't able to get java to work
[03:36] <Agios> well, I assumed he had java installed LOL
[03:36] <posthuman> java is installed and should work :)
[03:36] <posthuman> heh
[03:36] <Gh0st75> i'd much rather do the package route, as i'm slowly gettin used to adept manager
[03:37] <intelikey> Gh0st75 ok.  well good luck with that one.
[03:37] <posthuman> I tried taking off the ()'s as well, but got a 'bad substitution error
[03:38] <darkyoshi372> anyone? smooth scrolling in firefox?
[03:38] <posthuman> isn't there an option in the preferences dialog?
[03:38] <darkyoshi372> oh, maybe
[03:39] <intelikey> posthuman `ls -d1 "$JAVADIR" /j*`  ???   you don't expect a  /j* dir do you ?
[03:39] <posthuman> i believe so under 'advanced' @ dark
[03:39] <posthuman> that's what it says inteli =\ heh..i can try taking the /j off?
[03:40] <intelikey> rather try this first   echo  "$JAVADIR"
[03:40] <intelikey> does that show a path ?
[03:40] <dreadyburnz> got the easy unbuntu folder unzipped and open, what do i need to do now, that help websites frying brain a bit lol
[03:40] <Gh0st75> just reinstalled the jre packages, trying to verify the installation on the java site now
[03:41] <posthuman> intelikey: it shows nothing
[03:41] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, i think the guide tells you to run a python command in order to start easyubuntu
[03:41] <posthuman> just blank
[03:42] <posthuman> but java is installed
[03:42] <dreadyburnz> how i do that lol, sorry for being a pain lol
[03:42] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, or well, it's really just "python easyubuntu.in"
[03:42] <Gh0st75> posthuman, can you successfully Verify the java installation at java.com ?
[03:42] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, it's in the guide. The only reason for you to be a pain, is cus' you're not reading the guide :)
[03:42] <intelikey> posthuman try   find /usr -type d -name java
[03:43] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, the readme is here : http://users.on.net/~goetz/EasyUbuntu/README
[03:43] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, tells you how to install and run it
[03:43] <posthuman> it says i have 1.4.2
[03:43] <posthuman> not the latest
[03:43] <posthuman> should I install 1.5?
[03:43] <posthuman> or whatever the next is
[03:44] <wills> Hey, I just installed Kubuntu, but the highest resolution that it will allow me to set my desktop at 1280x1024
[03:44] <wills> Is there way a way to up that?
[03:44] <zipper__> wills, yes. Try under system settings -> display
[03:44] <foot> Bearcat: I will just go thru line by line exept for what I remember doing before.
[03:44] <wills> I went there
[03:44] <dreadyburnz> will have a look now lol
[03:44] <wills> zipper__: Max size under display was 1280x1024
[03:44] <posthuman> intelikey: it found /usr/lib/java
[03:44] <foot> Bearcat: the battery died, TAPS is playing
[03:44] <zipper__> wills, ah okay. What would you want it to be?
[03:45] <wills> zipper__: 1680x1050 is my monitor's native resolution
[03:45] <dreadyburnz> sudo python Easy<tab>/easyubuntu.py i typed in that on terminal and says no such file or directory
[03:45] <intelikey> you could set that veriable      export JAVADIR=/usr/lib/java    then retry what ever gave you the error
[03:45] <zipper__> wills, you need to locate the "Section "Screen"" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:45] <zipper__> wills, tell me when you've found it
[03:45] <wills> zipper__: Already been there
[03:46] <Gh0st75> after installing the java packages, do i need to type anything to enable them?
[03:46] <intelikey> @ posthuman ^
[03:46] <wills> zipper__: Added 1680x1050 there
[03:46] <zipper__> wills, but no luck?
[03:46] <wills> zipper__: Rebooted X, but the max allowable resolution in display is still 1280x1024
[03:46] <wills> zipper__: Interestingly enough, xorg.conf specifies a 1600x1200 resolution by default, but that isn't showing up either
[03:47] <zipper__> try commenting out the old resolution line, and make a copy of it which you change it, so the only possible resolution is your screens native resolution
[03:47] <zipper__> -it
[03:47] <wills> zipper__: Ctrl - Alt - Backspace is sufficient to reset X, right?
[03:47] <darkyoshi372> init 1 maybe?
[03:47] <darkyoshi372> it's probably better
[03:47] <darkyoshi372> I don't know how... :P
[03:48] <zipper__> wills, yes. Remember to close down all applications, and log out first though
[03:48] <intelikey> i wish there was a way without downloading both source packages to find out whether either nvidia package would work on my card.    i think legacy   it's probably old enough to qualify as legacy hardware.
[03:48] <zipper__> intelikey, your card is not listed on the list i gave you before?
[03:49] <wills> zipper__: Be right back, if it doesn't work.  If it does, thank you.
[03:49] <zipper__> :)
[03:53] <Jucato> intelikey: were you able to find it?
[03:53] <wills> zipper__: No luck
[03:53] <wills> zipper__: Display options remain constant
[03:54] <intelikey> Jucato nothing helpful
[03:54] <zipper__> wills, hmm? You changed your xorg.conf to only allow you to use your native resolution, but it still booted up using a different resolution?
[03:54] <intelikey> Jucato i guess i have the only unlisted nvidia card built....
[03:54] <Jucato> intelikey: what's your nvidia card, btw?
[03:54] <wills> zipper__: Yeah
[03:54] <intelikey> 128
[03:55] <wills> zipper__: Does KDE have a seperate config file it stores somewhere?
[03:55] <Gh0st75> well, another night gone and java still not working, will try again tomorrow i guess, gona afk
[03:55] <wills> zipper__: I remember editing my xorg.conf fixed it easily back when I used GNOME
[03:55] <zipper__> intelikey, am i on ignore or something? You've could've told me that, perhaps i could've helped you then
[03:55] <intelikey> nvidia   thompson joint venture 128
[03:55] <Jucato>  @_@
[03:55] <zipper__> wills, hmm, not that i'm aware of
[03:55] <intelikey> yeah tell me.
[03:56] <zipper__> wills, can you paste your xorg.conf in a pastebin somewhere?
[03:56] <wills> zipper__: Sure
[03:56] <intelikey> so all i get is  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia        hehhe
[03:56] <intelikey> like i didn't have enough sense to look there firs.
[03:56] <intelikey> t
[03:57] <Jucato> intelikey: maybe your card is covered by the legacy drivers?
[03:57] <Jucato> intelikey: I guess this is the specific page I was thinking of: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[03:57] <intelikey> jucato maybe... that's what i'm leaning toword  but it's not listed in the legacy list.
[03:57] <zipper__> intelikey, how were we supposed to know you actually read the guide, and found out your card was not listed on the supported chips list, when you never mentioned that before now?
[03:57] <Jucato> err...
[03:57] <intelikey> looking
[03:58] <Jucato> intelikey: what does the "lspci | grep -i nvidia" command output?
[03:58] <zipper__> oh well, i dont care. Don't want to force help upon a person who doesnt want it
[03:58] <TooDamFast> gnome/kde question?  why do my keyboard hot keys work in gnome but not it kde on the same install?
[03:58] <wills> zipper__: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/jCtM8d77.html
[03:59] <intelikey> just told you   " NVidia Thomson Joint Venture 128  "
[03:59] <wills> TooDamFast: The hotkeys are stored desktop-specific, not system wide.
[03:59] <zipper__> thanks, after ignoring me for an hour
[03:59] <Jucato> TooDamFast: which hot keys? GNOME and KDE use different programs for hot keys, so they don't usually work across desktop environments
[03:59] <TooDamFast> does kde use the same fstab file that gnome uses?
[03:59] <zipper__> good luck with it though
[04:00] <Jucato> intelikey: Thomson or Thompson?
[04:00] <TooDamFast> i thought it was fstab related?
[04:00] <intelikey> that was a cp and paste ^
[04:00] <wills> TooDamFast: If you're talking about /etc/fstab, that's a system file
[04:00] <intelikey> first i typed.
[04:00] <wills> TooDamFast: But hotkeys aren't stored there
[04:00] <zipper__> wills, hmm, what resolution / depth does it start up in when you have only the native resolution available?
[04:00] <wills> TooDamFast: fstab stores mounts
[04:00] <Jucato> TooDamFast: fstab = FileSystem Table
[04:00] <wills> zipper__: 1280x1024
[04:00] <TooDamFast> i thought the keyboard was identified there.
[04:01] <intelikey> jucato  "0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller:  NVidia Thomson Joint Venture 128  "
[04:01] <wills> zipper__: With options for 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480, etc
[04:01] <TooDamFast> ive only been using linux for 5 weeks now. i started with gnome and swithed to kde a few days ago.
[04:01] <zipper__> wills, you know what depth it's in? You could try commenting out every other depths than the default one with the native resolution. Then we can be 100% sure it's no fault of the xorg.conf if it doesnt boot up. Or well, i might be, but at least not the resolution-selecting-part
[04:02] <wills> zipper__: All my other depths -are- commented out, I think
[04:02] <Jucato> intelikey: googling...
[04:02] <wills> zipper__: Wait...my main monitor's not even a Dell
[04:02] <wills> zipper__: I just realized that
[04:02] <zipper__> wills, ooh, they are, missed that... hmmm
[04:02] <zipper__> Identifier is only, well, and identifier, a name
[04:02] <niklaz> oh, I forget konversation minimizes
[04:02] <niklaz> :O
[04:02] <wills> zipper__: Yeah, I know, but could it have gotten confused somewhere?
[04:02] <wills> zipper__: I've got a second monitor that I don't use in Linux
[04:03] <Jucato> intelikey: I think your card falls under the nVidia Riva group
[04:03] <wills> zipper__: Cause I've always been unable to get it to use dual monitors on my video card
[04:03] <TooDamFast> how can i set up my hot keys on m$ keyboard in kde?
[04:03] <zipper__> wills, tried plugging in your monitor to the other output of your gfx card?
[04:03] <wills> zipper__: But it's plugged in...could it be thinking those settings are for the 2nd one and using some defaults somewhere for my main monitor?
[04:03] <Jucato> intelikey: I think your card falls under the nVidia Riva group
[04:03] <wills> zipper__: Err, I don't have another output
[04:03] <wills> zipper__: I've got a laptop with a widescreen LCD on it, and a CRT plugged into the DVI out
[04:04] <zipper__> wills, ah, i see
[04:04] <soulrider> is there any way i can see in my kicker ONLY the apps that are on my curresnt desktop ?
[04:04] <wills> zipper__: I'm thinking that maybe it's picked up the wrong monitor as my default?
[04:04] <zipper__> wills, it's probably the clone-setup that bugs it then. Your CRT probably has a hard time with using the 1680x1050 resolution
[04:05] <wills> zipper__: My CRT's not even on
[04:05] <zipper__> is it connected?
[04:05] <zipper__> hmm
[04:05] <zipper__> let me think
[04:05] <wills> zipper__: Yeah...should I try disconnecting it entirely, running an X -configure, and then eidting the file that comes out?
[04:05] <zipper__> dont think it'll do you much good
[04:06] <Jucato> intelikey: were you able to get that? the last ones I typed in?
[04:06] <wills> zipper__: I can always try re-installing without the CRT plugged in
[04:06] <wills> zipper__: Installation only takes 10 minutes or so anyways
[04:06] <zipper__> dualview/tv-out/all that stuff is a pain in the a** and usually doesnt go too well with config-applications. You usually have to get a little dirty to make it work
[04:06] <wills> zipper__: I know, I know
[04:06] <zipper__> nah, dont think thats nessesary
[04:06] <Jucato> err.. logging out
[04:06] <wills> zipper__: Only way I can ever get two monitors working in Linux is to have two seperate video cards
[04:06] <intelikey> jucato yes i hear you
[04:07] <Jucato> intelikey: ok. Riva TNT seems to be covered by the legacy drivers, so I'm presuming Riva128 will be as well. anyway, good luck!
[04:07] <zipper__> wills, how come?
[04:07] <Jucato> logging out...
[04:07] <intelikey> Jucato and that means legacy  might work.
[04:07] <wills> zipper__: X doesn't seem to recognize my DVI output and my LCD output as two seperate devices
[04:07] <intelikey> yes assuming
[04:08] <wills> Wow, a Riva 128?
[04:08] <wills> I think that card's almost as old as I am
[04:08] <intelikey> you about 6 years old ?
[04:09] <wills> Exaggeration
[04:09] <zipper__> wills, well, it's probably cus' you do not have two seperate devices
[04:09] <zipper__> wills, you probably have one device, with several outputs
[04:09] <wills> zipper__: How do you distinguish between outputs in xorg.conf?
[04:10] <zipper__> wills, there are different ways of doing it. You can run 2 seperate x-sessions, you could persuade xorg to thinking you have 2 devices, and you can use the twin-view option if you're a nvidia user.
[04:11] <zipper__> They are all equally worthless
[04:11] <zipper__> :P
[04:11] <wills> zipper__: Ughh...well, can't use twin-view cause I
[04:11] <zipper__> or well, i'm kidding, it's possible to make it work, but it's not userfriendly at all
[04:11] <wills> zipper__: I've got an ATI.  And still doesn't fix my resolution =/
[04:12] <matt__> hey all
[04:12] <zipper__> i must admit, i have a hard time understanding why it runs a different resolution that available in the xorg.conf
[04:12] <zipper__> wills, however
[04:12] <matt__> has anyone had problems with cups after the latest dapper updates?
[04:13] <zipper__> wills, try pasting your /var/log/Xorg.0.log somewhere
[04:14] <matt__> its was working fine up until the last set of updates.  Its an Epson CX4800 printer/scanner.
[04:14] <wills> zipper__: http://www.its.caltech.edu/~willshao/Xorg.0.log
[04:14] <byen> hey guys  Here is my question.. none of my usb drives mount unless i type sudo modprobe -r ehci-hcd ... what can i do.. how should i proceed. ..Please suggest.. how can I have them mount automatically like they should...
[04:15] <zipper__> wills, a warning though, i don't know for how long i'll be able to help you debug the problem, it's 4am here and i'm getting really tired
[04:15] <intelikey> hah this is so useless....  why would installing linux-386 & nvidia-glx-legacy     depend on linux-image-2.6.15-23-386    that's stupid.   running 26-386 now....
[04:15] <wills> zipper__: Thanks for helping me, though.  4am.  Damn
[04:15] <wills> zipper__: It's 7 pm here
[04:15] <zipper__> lol :)
[04:15] <zipper__> wills, hmm... according to DPMS, your monitor doesnt support its native resolution
[04:16] <actinic> wills, have u checked this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:16] <zipper__> wills, max is 1280x1024@75hz which was what you were able to select in system manager -> display right?
[04:17] <wills> Yeah
[04:17] <wills> zipper__: I'm seeing that line
[04:17] <zipper__> wills, i think you need to dig out your manual for your screen, and manually define what hsync vrefresh values your screen has
[04:17] <wills> zipper__: Ughhh...what's a manual?
[04:17] <zipper__> it's line 471
[04:18] <wills> zipper__: Actually, display only let's me use 86 Hz
[04:18] <zipper__> wills, heh, i know... but seriously though, try scanning the manufactures website, they usually have manuals for download
[04:18] <wills> zipper__: Strange, considering it's an LCD
[04:18] <zipper__> strange indeed
[04:18] <wills> zipper__: I really think that it picked up my CRT during install
[04:18] <wills> zipper__: And based everything on that
[04:18] <zipper__> even more strange why it insists on running 1280x1024... i think that might be connected to the other output in the card
[04:18] <zipper__> probably
[04:19] <wills> zipper__: I'm just going to reinstall
[04:19] <zipper__> you could try that
[04:19] <zipper__> without your crt plugged in ofcourse
[04:19] <wills> zipper__: Kubuntu's got an amazingly fast install
[04:19] <zipper__> but if it doesnt work, it is fix-able
[04:19] <wills> zipper__: Alright, goodnight
[04:19] <zipper__> thank you, and good luck
[04:19] <zipper__> btw
[04:19] <zipper__> nevermind
[04:20] <zipper__> afk
[04:20] <intelikey> so i have to run *-23-386 for nvidia drivers to work ?    cause there is not restricted 26-386  ???
[04:20] <zipper__> intelikey, i think it's in the multiverse repositories
[04:20] <zipper__> not sure
[04:21] <intelikey> i have all repos enabled  unless you go to strange urls
[04:21] <archangel_> !code
[04:21] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs; KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello; GNOME: gvim, gedit, eclipse, pida
[04:21] <archangel_> !compiler
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiler - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:22] <archangel_> !gcc
[04:22] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:22] <bigbill52a> why would kdm not start xwindows...it just loops back to the log in screen?
[04:22] <intelikey> apt-cache search restricted | grep -e '-26-'
[04:24] <intelikey> bigbill52a auth file not owned bt you   would be one reason     set to some other desktop environment that is no longer installed  could be anothere
[04:24] <archangel_> thanks, ubotu
[04:24] <archangel_> u r my h3r0!
[04:24] <grizzly> konqueror and krusader both don't show any files in ftp://ftphost.ripway.com/ . gftp shows the files. Whats up ?
[04:25] <zipper__> intelikey, apparently i remembers wrong. I only have 23-386 as well
[04:25] <bigbill52a> it worked and then i rebooted the computer and it didnt...desktop environment was not changed
[04:25] <zipper__> remembers wrong? I should go to bed
[04:25] <bigbill52a> i eventually had to reinstall...
[04:25] <intelikey> at least you didn't sic the bot on me that time...
[04:26] <bigbill52a> what is the auth file?  where is it located?
[04:26] <ivan`> what's the launchy-like application launcher called?
[04:26] <ivan`> where you do find-as-you-type to launch an app
[04:27] <intelikey> bigbill52a in your home dir    ~.*auth*     you can safely remove both    err all
[04:27] <grizzly> !ftp
[04:27] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[04:28] <intelikey> bigbill52a assuming default home    /home/bill/.*auth*    or something like that
[04:28] <zipper__> intelikey, cmon, drop it already. I got the impression you had a problem selecting the driver cus' you never read the guide, thats why i acted the way i did. Again, how was i supposed to know differently? It took you quite some time to tell what was really the problem. Not worth getting all that excited about really
[04:28] <d3vil> Hi
[04:28] <d3vil> Can someone tell me how to install Themes on Kubuntu?
[04:28] <bigbill52a> i see other hidden files but nothing with .auth
[04:29] <d3vil> Can anyone tell me how to install Themes on Kubuntu???~
[04:29] <zipper__> d3vil, we heard you the first time
[04:30] <d3vil> I am sorry.
[04:30] <zipper__> d3vil, if someone is able and willing to help you, that person will do so. No need to ask your question several times in a row
[04:30] <intelikey> zipper__ i did drop it.  hehhe  another thing you didn't know.  i ignored your ip when you crossthreded me  and then could lift the ignore... that's why i finally loged out and back in here so i could see what you were doing,   knew you were still talking cause others were addressing you  :>
[04:31] <maltaethiron> hey guys, im trying to install google earth, and the wiki instructions say that when im in konsole, to "cd" into the directory that i saved the google earth bin file...how would i do that?
[04:31] <zipper__> intelikey, then it's entirely your own fault you missed out on a bounch of links for lists/forums. I kept on talking to you, trying to help you.
[04:31] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: cd /path/to/directory
[04:32] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: cd = Change Directory
[04:32] <maltaethiron> thanks hawkwind
[04:32] <zipper__> intelikey, you could've got your problem solved over an hour ago, but oh well, it all worked out anyway. No harm done
[04:32] <Jucato> Hawkwind: are you the same guy from KubuntuForums.Net?
[04:32] <Hawkwind> Jucato: There had best only be one of me :)
[04:32] <Jucato> was intelikey able to find the correct driver?
[04:32] <Jucato> Hawkwind: lol! :-D
[04:32] <Hawkwind> Jucato: The world couldn't handle more than one of me :P
[04:32] <d3vil> zipper_: can u help me?
[04:33] <intelikey> zipper__ not entirely   i tried several times to remove the ignore   something about  @port  that was triping up my irc client....
[04:33] <maltaethiron> Hawkwind: you've truley made me smile since ive been cominig to this chat...so helpful
[04:33] <maltaethiron> so heres to you.......*cheers*
[04:33] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Thanks :)
[04:33] <zipper__> intelikey, your fault you're not using a good irc client/don't know your irc client well enough
[04:34] <intelikey> ha
[04:34] <intelikey> ;/
[04:34] <Jucato> Hawkwind: I think you replied to my post over at KFN about server install + kde-core?
[04:34] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Yeppers
[04:35] <Jucato> Hawkwind: I'm having fun right now installing stuff.
[04:35] <darkyoshi372> Hello, when I try to rip music using KAudioCreator and Lame, it tells me "malformed URL". What does that mean?
[04:35] <intelikey> i've used this client for several years   that's the only time it has ever failed to lift a ban    and if it's not  @port  that it's bugging out on,  then something is wrong with this version.
[04:35] <doppelganger_> stupid question, but where do i change the desktop icon font color? i've looked through all of the options but can't seem to find it. I've somehow (without hitting anything) changed them to black with a form of "for transparency" on them
[04:35] <intelikey> s/ban/ignore/
[04:36] <Jucato> server install + x-window-system-core + xterm + kde-core + irssi = only 483 packages installed
[04:36] <Jucato> versus the 900+ installed by default with Kubuntu
[04:36] <zipper__> intelikey, either way, if blame is to be put upon either of us, i dont think it's fair i am to take the blame for your irc clients malfunction
[04:36] <crimsun> I'm surprised you choose xterm.
[04:37] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Heh kewl kewl.
[04:37] <Jucato> crimsun: well, I thought I needed it for Konsole. I might remove it later :-D
[04:37] <intelikey> never said you should
[04:38] <Jucato> I don't have USplash installed yet, but so far, my system boot around 20 seconds? 10 seconds faster than the regular Kubuntu install
[04:38] <zipper__> intelikey, doesnt matter, lets drop it, i'm too tired for this
[04:38] <Jucato> KDE also loads less than 10 seconds, but then again, this is jut the barebones
[04:38] <Jucato> s/jut/just
[04:38] <doppelganger_> can someone help with desktop icon color changing real quick?
[04:39] <zipper__> doppelganger_, try asking your question instead of asking to ask a question
[04:39] <doppelganger_> i've already tried my man
[04:39] <zipper__> ah
[04:39] <zipper__> you did
[04:39] <zipper__> missed it
[04:39] <doppelganger_> ;)
[04:40] <Hawkwind> doppelganger_: kcontrol -> Appearance or Look & Feel
[04:40] <doppelganger_> it just somehow changed...  i was just messing around with multiple desktops, and now somehow it's changed from white to black, with some sort of "for transparency" look like the fonts are on my taskbar
[04:40] <intelikey> jucato have you tried blackbox ?
[04:40] <foot> Bearcat: haelp haelp...
[04:41] <Jucato> hmm... I somehow like the default KDE 3.5 themes/appearance than what Kubuntu has installed by default
[04:41] <Jucato> intelikey: I'm trying not to change my desktop environment and window manager
[04:41] <intelikey> k
[04:41] <Jucato> somehow, the *box WM's didn't really appeal to me, when it comes to appearance...
[04:42] <zipper__> Jucato, you installed the 'server' kubuntu, and then added x+kde+whatever yourself?
[04:42] <intelikey> just going by the speed referances
[04:42] <zipper__> i was wondering how it was possible to only get the very basics installed
[04:42] <Jucato> zipper__: not Kubuntu Server, but the "server" install option using the Alternate Install CD
[04:42] <Jucato> the Alternate install CD has several install options: normal, expert, server, server-expert
[04:42] <doppelganger_> hawkwind- i guess i'm not seeing it bro
[04:42] <zipper__> Jucato, isn't the server install option available on the live-cd?
[04:43] <bigbill52a> kdeinit could not launch...why does that happen with konqueror...etc
[04:43] <Jucato> zipper__: I don't think so. The Live CD installer basically just copies everything from the Live CD to the hard drive
[04:43] <darkyoshi372> when I try to rip music using KAudioCreator and Lame, it tells me "malformed URL". What does that mean?
[04:43] <dreadyburnz> got a lexmark z600 series printer isntalled on my network pc with xp installed etc, how do i install the drivers on this pc with unbuntu on it?
[04:43] <zipper__> yeah i know
[04:43] <zipper__> oh well, cant be bothered to burn out another cd, but it's nice to know i have the option, Thank you
[04:44] <Jucato> zipper__: sure. It's quite an experience. It tested my apt-getting/aptituding/nanoing skills
[04:44] <Jucato> and I'm glad I took that Ubuntu Classroom session and learned irssi
[04:45] <intelikey> bigbill52a drop into a console { [alt] +[ctrl] +[f2]  }   login and type  kdesession -display :0   and read the error message
[04:45] <intelikey> i think kdesession  maybe kde-session
[04:45] <zipper__> i used to install debian from a very old version cd i had... i'm somewhat comfortable with those things, but it takes a lot of time to setup your whole system the way you wanted it, which is mainly why i'm trying out kubuntu
[04:45] <intelikey> i don't have kde can't check
[04:45] <zipper__> Jucato, ubuntu classroom?
[04:46] <Jucato> zipper__: yeah. but I was quite bored with the Kubuntu defaults. I wanted to be able to tweak/customize/optimize things a bit w/o having to recompile everything, and w/o leaving the comfort of Kubuntu :-D
[04:46] <Jucato> zipper__: yeah, a bi-weekly IRC class for Ubuntu
[04:46] <Jucato> let me get the URL for that
[04:47] <zipper__> never heard of ubuntu classroom
[04:47] <Jucato> the first topic was Introduction to IRC, and they taught about irssi, the CLI IRC client, and Konversation
[04:47] <intelikey> can't imagen
[04:47] <Kuto> Jucato: bi-weekly class on this chan??
[04:47] <Jucato> nah, not on this channel.
[04:47] <Jucato> on #ubuntu-classroom
[04:47] <zipper__> Jucato, well, if you're only installing the basics, with no kde/gnome, applications or nothing, there really isnt much difference between kubuntu, ubuntu and debian
[04:47] <Kuto> aah
[04:48] <Jucato> except that the packages are still customized for Kubuntu
[04:48] <Hawkwind> !class
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about class - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <intelikey> with no kde or gnome  it's not ubuntu or kubuntu
[04:48] <Hawkwind> !classroom
[04:48] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[04:48] <intelikey> that's why i run  ibunt
[04:48] <Jucato> thanks Hawkwind :-D
[04:49] <doppelganger_> hawkwind: when you get some time could find the exact place where the desktop icon font color settings are?
[04:49] <Jucato> well, it still uses the Ubuntu base, so it's still basically ubuntu
[04:49] <doppelganger_> i've looked all through that mammy
[04:49] <zipper__> intelikey, well, technically speaking it still is the distro... everything that makes it different that the others are removed however
[04:49] <soulrider> Jucato: you got ADSL right?
[04:49] <Jucato> soulrider: yeah
[04:49] <soulrider> ok
[04:49] <Hawkwind> doppelganger_: I don't use KDE, at all.  I use E17.  But it's in kcontrol
[04:49] <soulrider> do you get disconnected by your ISP?
[04:49] <soulrider> for an IP change
[04:49] <intelikey> zipper__ not here it's not   :)
[04:49] <doppelganger_> yeah, i've been looking everywhere..  can't find it for shit
[04:49] <zipper__> intelikey, how come?
[04:50] <doppelganger_> and i didn't change it to begin with, which is the kicker of it all
[04:50] <Jucato> soulrider: hm... I'm not sure if it's for an IP change, but I sometimes get disconnected for a few seconds
[04:50] <soulrider> ok
[04:50] <intelikey> nothing recognizable about it.
[04:50] <soulrider> dies it reconnect ?
[04:50] <soulrider> i get disconnected every 12 hours but i dont know if it will reconnect
[04:50] <intelikey> i've redone everything but dpkg
[04:50] <Jucato> intelikey: except that you're still using the Ubuntu repositories, the packages configured and customized for Ubuntu
[04:50] <intelikey> that's what i said
[04:50] <zipper__> intelikey, true, but it's still the given distro. Doesnt have to be recognizable to be the distro
[04:51] <Jucato> for example, I installed kde-core, not kubuntu-desktop, but KDM was still configured by default to use a Kubuntu KDM theme, which was not installed
[04:52] <Jucato> even if you're not using the distro's default settings (ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, etc), you are still using the distro's packages. they will always have <package version>-<debian version>ubuntu<ubuntu version> in their name
[04:52] <bigbill52a> intelikey  command not found
[04:52] <intelikey> i don't think you can still call it *buntu   first of all perl and python are not installed  no lsb*   secondly i wrote my own init system    it would be impossable for a novice to duplicate this system.
[04:53] <intelikey> bigbill52a use tab completion
[04:53] <Jucato> intelikey: it's still *buntu, if you consider that Ubuntu means both a GNOME-based distro and a "brand"/umbrella project
[04:53] <bigbill52a> what is tab completion
[04:54] <Jucato> just look at your packages, and you will see that they have "ubuntu" in their descriptions/names
[04:54] <intelikey> bigbill52a you type  kde   and hit the tab key   maybe two times.
[04:54] <intelikey> it liste the commands that start with kde
[04:54] <Jucato> anyway, need to log out, to check if KDE 3.5.4 won't be buggy :0D
[04:54] <bigbill52a> ok
[04:55] <actinic> Kubuntu now has a distributed Folding team!
[04:55] <actinic> http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=51238
[04:55] <intelikey> if what i'm running is still *buntu   then *buntu is still debian.
[04:55] <actinic> join up
[04:55] <actinic> and let's kick some ass
[04:56] <bigbill52a> there is no kdesession
[04:57] <intelikey> that maybe why it cant start.   you did look for kde-session  also didn't you.
[04:57] <soulrider> does anyone know of any connection managers i can use to manage my pppoe connection in an easy way
[04:57] <soulrider> without having to use pon adn poff
[04:57] <bigbill52a> let me try that
[04:57] <Ertain> Say, has anyone here used dvdstyler? Since when I encode a DVD, one of the videos just runs as normal, then suddenly stops, and resumes the video.  Any ideas?
[04:57] <Ertain> Btw, I encoded the video to DVD compliant MPEG video.  The audio part uses AC3 encoding.
[04:58] <bigbill52a> would i use synaptic to select kdesession?
[04:58] <intelikey> to install it ?
[04:58] <bigbill52a> yes
[04:59] <intelikey> kde-core
[04:59] <bigbill52a> ok
[04:59] <intelikey> yes any package manager
[04:59] <bigbill52a> i will check for kde-core
[04:59] <intelikey> in synaptic i presume
[05:00] <zipper__> why kde-core and not the kubuntu-desktop package?
[05:00] <Jucato> cool! KDE 3.5.4 didn't have the bug I had in Kubuntu!! whooppeee!
[05:00] <Jucato> kubuntu-desktop = contains the packages and settings customized for Kubuntu
[05:00] <intelikey> zipper__ as far as i know kdm stoped loading kde for him
[05:00] <Jucato> kde-core: the base, and I mean barebones, KDE installation
[05:01] <bigbill52a> i have kubuntu-desktop installed...i
[05:01] <zipper__> i see
[05:01] <soulrider> cani run a gnome app in kde?
[05:01] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Of course
[05:02] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Apps are *not* wm/de dependant
[05:02] <foot> question for all,  cp HcwMakoA.ROM /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/v4l-cx25840.fw  is telling linux to create a file in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/v4l-cx25840.fx ,  or what?
[05:02] <soulrider> ok, thanks Hawkwind
[05:02] <bigbill52a> i switched over to nautilus in kde..since i couldnt get konqueror to load text files while in kdesu konqueror
[05:03] <Jucato> Hawkwind: they are toolkit dependent, though :-D
[05:03] <Hawkwind> foot: Yes, that is correct
[05:03] <bigbill52a> it worked fine in user mode but not in sudo mode
[05:03] <Jucato> hmm... what to do next... what to do next...
[05:03] <intelikey> bigbill52a yep  that's what i said the first time.   you don't own  an  auth file.
[05:03] <intelikey>  sudo rm .*auth*
[05:04] <bigbill52a> how do i get an auth file?
[05:04] <intelikey>    .ICEauthority     most likely
[05:04] <intelikey>  sudo rm .*auth*
[05:04] <foot> Hawkwind: ok, so if is says 'nosuch file or directory' it is talking about the first part. yes?
[05:05] <intelikey> in the console and then try to login kde
[05:05] <sfkhooper> How can I make contact with someone from this channel who is offline at the moment? Is there any way to look up a user and leave a message?
[05:05] <intelikey> msg memoserv help
[05:05] <intelikey> /msg memoserv help
[05:06] <intelikey> maltaethiron help us help you.
[05:06] <maltaethiron> ok intelikey
[05:06] <maltaethiron> well
[05:06] <bigbill52a> i must be dense ...i looked in my /home/billy dir and could not find .auth file...is that where it should be or would it be in the root dir?
[05:06] <maltaethiron> the wiki says to cd to the directory which you saved the bin file to, which i did
[05:07] <maltaethiron> then it says to type the following line into command line:
[05:07] <intelikey> bigbill52a that's where    any file starting with  . is hiden.   just do like i said.
[05:07] <maltaethiron> # chmod +x  GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[05:08] <sfkhooper>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY croy56don
[05:08] <maltaethiron> which i do, although it doesnt look as if anything actually happens, but i dont get an error or anything
[05:08] <maltaethiron> THEN
[05:08] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: That's correct.  It won't show anything.  It does what it needs
[05:08] <intelikey> maltaethiron you don't really use  #   do you ?
[05:08] <zipper__> sfkhooper, awww, you should probably change your pass :P
[05:08] <maltaethiron> ...
[05:08] <bigbill52a> i had my show hidden files turned on....
[05:09] <maltaethiron> so you dont type that?
[05:09] <Hawkwind> No
[05:09] <maltaethiron> wow..
[05:09] <maltaethiron> hah
[05:09] <zipper__> maltaethiron, you just type 'chmod +x file.bin'
[05:09] <maltaethiron> thanks...ill see if it works now
[05:09] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: # represents a users bash prompt.  A $ represents roots bash prompt
[05:09] <intelikey> # = this line is a comment ignore it.
[05:09] <maltaethiron> mmm
[05:09] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Not in that case
[05:09] <maltaethiron> man, i just might have killed myself if i didnt have you guys
[05:09] <intelikey> on the cli  yes it does
[05:10] <intelikey> if you type # any thing it's simply ignored
[05:10] <Hawkwind> intelikey: The # is referring to it being done as user.  Read the wiki you'll understand
[05:10] <Hawkwind> intelikey: If he needed to be root, then it would have a $ instead
[05:10] <maltaethiron> theres a $ at the end of the line in konsole..should it be a #?
[05:11] <intelikey> i could care less about symbolism in a wiki   no the command line  that's a comment mark.
[05:11] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: You need to be normal user
[05:11] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Wrong
[05:11] <Kuto> hi there, i have a fresh installed of kubuntu in my box, how do i load the kde? should i apt-get the necessary tools? i need also mysql and apache installed.
[05:11] <intelikey> end of argument.
[05:11] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Look at your bash prompt
[05:11] <Hawkwind> Been that way for years and years
[05:11] <intelikey> tty3 [greg$~] 
[05:11] <intelikey> that one ^
[05:11] <intelikey> tty24 [root#~] 
[05:11] <intelikey> that one ^
[05:11] <maltaethiron> Hawkwind: i need to be a normal user?  am i in some wrong mode or something?
[05:11] <Hawkwind> intelikey: The context in this case means he needs to be root, not user
[05:11] <intelikey> ??
[05:11] <tk> actinic: joined it ;)
[05:12] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: You can be either, depending on how you want it installed
[05:12] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: I recommend installing it as normal user
[05:12] <maltaethiron> and what am i?
[05:12] <intelikey> the fact that he typed   # blah   means it was a comment to bash  now drop it.
[05:12] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: I had it backwards, # is root, $ is normal user
[05:12] <maltaethiron> oh ok
[05:12] <maltaethiron> ty
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. someone want to check    http://www.adultswim.com/adultswimfix/index.jsp and see if they can get some of the videos to play?
[05:13] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Right. But you're still wrong as to the context the wiki states # and $ and you are misleading him
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> been twiddling with the firefox plugins - but cant seem to get any to work. :(
[05:13] <Hawkwind> Dr_Willis: Requires flash 8 or better
[05:13] <intelikey> Hawkwind that's a damnd lie.
[05:13] <intelikey> i never mentioned the wiki   you did.
[05:13] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Read the wiki d00d
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> Its got a indow media player button/logo however it looks like
[05:13] <Hawkwind> intelikey: I know you didn't, that's the problem
[05:14] <maltaethiron> man, you guys will go at it for hours, wont you
[05:14] <sfkhooper> zipper__: yeah :( I was told this:  [Notice]  -MemoServ- Type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[05:14] <intelikey> prolly not.
[05:14] <Hawkwind> intelikey: On the wiki it has # command to-do-here  That # is signifying the command is performed as root user
[05:15] <Hawkwind> intelikey: I doubt your wrote your own init scripts if you don't know the difference in # $ when it comes to a bash prompt.  You crack me up
[05:15] <zipper__> sfkhooper, i always types in passwords and stuff like that in the status window. That way, i dont risk pasting my pass to a public channel
[05:15] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: You get it working now ?
[05:16] <maltaethiron> Hawkwind: kindof...it's installed and running...BUT the image is all way up high in the window..and like the first four fifths of it is cut off
[05:16] <maltaethiron> i see the bottom fifth, but its all the way at the top of the window
[05:16] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Huh ?  Can you take a screenshot
[05:16] <maltaethiron> and theres black underneath it
[05:16] <maltaethiron> ok hold on
[05:16] <intelikey> Hawkwind it must really hurt being that smart.
[05:17] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Ahhh, I've heard of others with that issue too
[05:17] <Hawkwind> intelikey: I just know how to read and I know when something is referring to # as root prompt, or $ as user prompt.  It's not hard to figure out for the rest of us, just you
[05:18] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Sorry *you* can't help someone with proper information.  Instead you want to brag about writing your own init scripts and naming your distro ibunt.  What a joke
[05:18] <intelikey> i always heard the fool was the twin of the wise,  sorry i mistook you for your brother.
[05:18] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Please remind me to *never* use anything you code, write, or build.  That's a damn scary thought
[05:18] <zipper__> intelikey, we all know your point about '#' being a comment mark, and we've accepted that. Now please accept the that in this case, the wiki symbolism actually was a big part of solving his problem
[05:18] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Welcome to ignore.  I won't let you give me wrong advice like you're doing to others here
[05:19] <zipper__> -the
[05:19] <maltaethiron> Hawkwind: how do i get the screen shot to you
[05:19] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Upload it to a website, or there is free hosting out there.  You can even use pastebin for screenshots IIRC
[05:19] <intelikey> zipper__ i never had any problem with that to start with.
[05:19] <maltaethiron> ok, hold on...(photobucket ftw!!)
[05:19] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Then why are you arguing and giving out false info ?
[05:19] <zipper__> intelikey, then i dont understand what you guys are arguing about. I'm going to sleep
[05:19] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: That's it, photobucket
[05:20] <intelikey> zipper__ please notice whom is arguing.
[05:20] <foot> is anyone out there using a remote with thier pvr?
[05:20] <Hawkwind> Ummm, it takes 2 to argue.  No way around that
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> Hawkwind,  unless you are my wife.. :P
[05:20] <intelikey> see what i mean
[05:21] <Hawkwind> Dr_Willis: LOL.  You have one of those too :P
[05:21] <Hawkwind> intelikey: The point is man, you are giving users incorrect information.  That is going to hurt someone if you continue by giving out the wrong info.  You tell them to do something that isn't right and then you'll be responsible for the fact that it's broken
[05:22] <Kuto> hi there, i have a fresh installed of kubuntu in my box, how do i load the kde? should i apt-get the necessary tools? i need also mysql and apache installed. anyone?
[05:22] <intelikey> quote my bad information please.
[05:22] <zipper__> intelikey, you're keeping the fire at him, by being so stubborn about your remark was correct when in fact, Hawkwind was the one who was on the right track. Either case, both of your answers would've helped the guy, and now you're both just beeing too theoretical and geeky about it. Yes, # is a comment mark. Yes, the wiki uses $ and # to refer to different users, now lets drop it alright?
[05:22] <maltaethiron> Hawkwind: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/maltaethiron/googleearthwierd.png
[05:22] <Hawkwind> But anyways, I'm done.  I'll let you screw someone and then I'll let you explain to them how to fix it
[05:22] <zipper__> both of you, really
[05:23] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Yeah, I think that has something to do with flash.  I'm not sure
[05:23] <maltaethiron> f*ckin' flash!
[05:23] <maltaethiron> grahh
[05:23] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Or maybe it's java
[05:23] <intelikey> zipper__ that's what i said way up there %
[05:23] <intelikey> ^
[05:23] <zipper__> maltaethiron, you could use easyUbuntu to install flash
[05:24] <Hawkwind> I think Google Earth needs java, not flash.  I can't remember which
[05:24] <Bearcat> foot: you beeped me?
[05:24] <maltaethiron> im pretty sure its java actually
[05:24] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Yeah I think so too
[05:24] <foot> Bearcat: yup
[05:24] <Bearcat> foot: what's up?
[05:25] <foot> Bearcat: snaghttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20518
[05:25] <maltaethiron> offtopic: if anyone wants to see my pretty biology disection rat (named John Love): http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/maltaethiron/pwnedsidefinal.jpg
[05:25] <zipper__> intelikey, haven't bothered to read your whole discussion, so i couldn't tell. I do however think Hawkwind makes a good point about spreading bad help (and no, i'm not taking a stand whether or not you did so). No help is better than bad help to be honest
[05:25] <foot> Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20518
[05:25] <D3V1L> can someone tell me the simple steps to installing themes in kubuntu please????
[05:25] <foot> intelikey: I agree
[05:25] <intelikey> zipper__ i ask one more time  where is the bad help ?   please quote it for me.
[05:25] <Hawkwind> D3V1L: They come with a README on the kde-look.org site
[05:26] <maltaethiron> thats a sweet site btw
[05:26] <zipper__> intelikey, as i just said, i refuse to take a stand in this matter
[05:26] <maltaethiron> i caught it on digg
[05:26] <D3V1L> Hawkwind: Thanks Buddy.
[05:26] <Hawkwind> D3V1L: Basically you download it, and then in kcontrol you go to Themes and you can install it with the Install New Theme button
[05:26] <Bearcat> foot: one moment
[05:26] <intelikey> foot can you quote it for me ?
[05:26] <Bearcat> folks, is hotplug used in ubuntu or has it moved up to coldplug?
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> lukewarmplug
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:27] <tk> there was no bad help given, just hawkwind acting as if intelikey was wrong when they were both talking about 2 different aspects of #
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> # - means its a comment. :P
[05:27] <Hawkwind> tk: I happened to be talking about the one that maltaethiron needed to know about, the one the wiki was referring to
[05:27] <zblach> can anyone help me install wammu?
[05:27] <zipper__> Dr_Willis, it could also refer to a root shell
[05:27] <Hawkwind> tk: Why intelikey went off on a different subject is beyond me.  But he was confusing the user in need of help, regardless
[05:27] <zipper__> Dr_Willis, as it does in the wiki
[05:28] <maltaethiron> lol @ dr_willis
[05:28] <tk> Hawkwind: misunderstandings happen, that doesnt mean you should attempt to make people believe that intelikey is gonna crash their computer or worse, destroy it
[05:28] <Parkotron> Ah, Linux. Where else could such a prolonged argument be based on a single character?
[05:28] <tk> Parkotron: javascript and the use of $ as a function ;)
[05:28] <Hawkwind> LOL tk
[05:28] <intelikey> Dr_Willis then you think i would mislead by pointing that out after asking     "did you type   #   ?"
[05:28] <Bearcat> foot: mkdir /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/
[05:28] <maltaethiron> so hawkwind: should i check my java plugins or what?
[05:29] <foot> intelikey: I dont know enough to follow much. though I have learned a bit in the few moments that I perused the konversation. I have been spending the last week (the first week of my linux use) trying to install a pvr card, and have gone thru 3 sites with bad info, fixing and learning at the same time. I dont know if you gave bad advise, but I know that trying as a newbe to figure out what is and is not good advise sucks ass. sorry if you
[05:29] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Probably so yes.
[05:29] <maltaethiron> aight
[05:29] <intelikey> Dr_Willis i really want to know,  cause Hawkwind made a mountain out of it.
[05:29] <tk> for what its worth, intelikey has been quite helpful and correct in his assesments and fixes of everything he's helped me with over the past week, and I havent seen a complaint about him in that time either
[05:29] <foot> Bearcat: cannot, no such file or dir
[05:29] <maltaethiron> intelikey, you guys both helped me out..but youre the one that keeps carrying on
[05:30] <maltaethiron> its behind us
[05:30] <maltaethiron> its fine really, i dont think any less of you
[05:30] <tk> its not you, its me... really! (famous last words of... so many)
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> ive seen many a wiki/site that i cut/paste commands from. that have extra # in the front that i have to then remove
[05:31] <tk> sorry, I couldnt resist that one
[05:31] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: I have heard of users that had java installed properly and still had that black screen error.  Not sure what causes it and what the fix is to be honest
[05:31] <zipper__> tk, he does usually gives great help, i agree. I think the main problem here is his attitude, mainly his stubborness
[05:31] <Parkotron> Has anyone here ever turned a (K)Ubuntu box into a router?
[05:31] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: This problem has occured on other distros as well with no known fix AFAIK
[05:31] <intelikey> Dr_Willis msg me your answer if you like.    i really want your take on it.
[05:32] <maltaethiron> Hawkwind: It's really an odd problem, because obviously java is there, i can move that little sliver of earth
[05:32] <maltaethiron> Hawkwind: its just cut off...really odd
[05:32] <tk> zipper__: it was a misunderstanding on both their parts that, it happens... but dont go saying the other person is gonna ruin peopls computers because of the misunderstanding
[05:32] <Kuto> can the kde desktop be installed using Kubuntu 6.06.1 cd? or should it be installed by apt-get?
[05:32] <maltaethiron> i love how other people are discussing it now
[05:33] <zipper__> Dr_Willis, yes? i think we've got settled on that a while ago. # can be a comment mark
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  heh from the gentoo and other sites ive seen. it would best if the # and prompts were some how outside the frame showing the actual commands to make cut/pasteing to the console easier. Is my take on it.
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> Other then that.. :P  i wasent paying attention
[05:33] <maltaethiron> heheh
[05:33] <tk> kuto: kubuntu uses the K desktop environment if thats what you are asking....
[05:33] <Hawkwind> Kuto: If it's Kubuntu, then it has KDE unless I'm misunderstanding your question
[05:33] <intelikey> Dr_Willis k
[05:33] <intelikey> thanks for replying.
[05:34] <zipper__> tk, i dont know intelikeys linux experience well enough to be the judge of that. But perhaps Hawkwind has been around him for a longer period of time than any of us
[05:34] <intelikey> polatitions anyway.      hehhe
[05:34] <Hawkwind> intelikey: If it makes you feel better, I'll be a man and step up and apologize for jumping on you.  I do apologize.  Now can we move on
[05:34] <shell75> hey all how do i get xchat 2.6.6 for kubuntu?
[05:35] <intelikey> Hawkwind what do you mean move on ?
[05:35] <Hawkwind> shell75: I have it on http://SeerOfSouls.com/
[05:35] <excitatory> shell75: you don't like konversation?
[05:35] <Hawkwind> shell75: I have a Ubuntu repo where I package Xchat.  Plus SoS is also listed on the http://xchat.org/download page :)
[05:36] <Hawkwind> intelikey: In other words, I apologize so let's drop it and help the users in need of help and forget about the damn arguement
[05:36] <intelikey> Hawkwind what argument ?
[05:36] <zipper__> intelikey, stop being a prick and accept his apology so we can get on with it. You know what he's talking about.
[05:37] <tk> its a shame I have to go back to work now....
[05:37] <tk> enjoy everyone :)
[05:37] <Hawkwind> zipper__: No need.  He's on ignore now.  Won't do any good
[05:37] <maltaethiron> bye tk
[05:37] <Hawkwind> tk: We'll keep the logs for ya :P
[05:37] <intelikey> zipper__ get on with it.
[05:37] <tk> cya maltaethiron, and I log everything Hawkwind ;)
[05:37] <maltaethiron> hawkwind: hahaha
[05:38] <tk> even though it says logging is off... :P
[05:38] <Hawkwind> Hah
[05:38] <intelikey> zipper__ do you answer when you see your nick highlighted ?
[05:39] <maltaethiron> hey, whos the operator of this channel?
[05:39] <intelikey> that's all i'm gona say about that :)
[05:39] <zipper__> intelikey, if there's something to answer, yes, mostly
[05:39] <shell75> hawkwind says its rpm file?
[05:39] <shell75> do i click the ubuntu one thats the rpm
[05:39] <Hawkwind> shell75: No.  Click on the Dep Packages tab at the top of the site
[05:40] <foot> Bearcat: I have searched around and cannot find the file hotplug/firmware/v4l-cx25840.fw
[05:40] <Hawkwind> shell75: You can then add the site as a source to your sources.list and then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xchat
[05:42] <Parkotron> I've got some FLAC files that Xine refuses to play, but flac123 handles without complaint? Xine is properly set up to play FLACs; it's just these few that it won't play. Anyone have any ideas?
[05:43] <shell75> this site here? http://xchat.org/download
[05:43] <darkwolf> speaking of xchat - i have just installed kubuntu and can
[05:43] <foot> can someone give me 20 minutes of their time? this involves setting up a wintv-pvr 150. i am doing fairly well but...
[05:43] <darkwolf> *can't seem to run the command ./configure make
[05:44] <Bearcat> what's going on foot?
[05:44] <darkwolf> it has an error: "error: /bin/sh ./config.sub make failed"
[05:44] <foot> Bearcat: did you not look at the pastebin?
[05:44] <Bearcat> gaze what libpreludedb
[05:44] <Bearcat> foot: i did. Did the command not work?
[05:44] <intelikey> darkwolf configure make ?     tried venella  ./configure
[05:44] <intelikey> ?
[05:45] <foot> Bearcat: no it did not. mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/':No such file or directory
[05:45] <Hawkwind> shell75: http://SeerOfSouls.com/
[05:45] <Hawkwind> shell75: Go there, then click on the Deb Packages tab.  That is my site
[05:45] <darkwolf> could not run GLIBtest program
[05:45] <Bearcat> foot: try mkdir /usr/lib/hotplug
[05:46] <Hawkwind> shell75: You can then add SoS as a source to your sources.list and then do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xchat
[05:46] <intelikey> darkwolf mmm and you do have build-essential installed correct ?
[05:46] <foot> Bearcat: ok
[05:46] <darkwolf> so how do i re-install my glib?
[05:46] <darkwolf> pass
[05:46] <intelikey> !b-e
[05:46] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:47] <jd_> hey it's my first time on chat how does this work
[05:47] <grizzly> konqueror and krusader both don't show any files when I log into ftp://ftphost.ripway.com/ . gftp shows the files. Whats up ?
[05:47] <Bearcat> jd_: just like that :)
[05:47] <foot> now the first command worked Bearcat
[05:47] <jd_> is this just about kubuntu
[05:47] <Bearcat> foot: excellent. now try the original command again.
[05:48] <foot> Bearcat: I just did ;}
[05:48] <Bearcat> foot: (i forgot to add a switch to create parent directories)
[05:48] <grizzly> kbear doesn't works either btw
[05:48] <soulrider_> does anyone know foa  goof gui program i can use to manage all my networkc onnections, including pppoe ?
[05:48] <Bearcat> foot: so now you have a /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/ directory?
[05:48] <foot> Bearcat: so mkdir creates the directory and cp copies. right?
[05:49] <foot> Bearcat: yup
[05:49] <Parkotron> soulrider: What do you mean by manage?
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> !network-manager
[05:49] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[05:49] <foot> Bearcat: YEEESSSS!
[05:50] <intelikey> grizzly i don't know an app but i know how you can search for one.   apt-cache search network manager
[05:50] <Bearcat> foot: O.O
[05:51] <frank_> my ktorrent seem like to be crash
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> frank_,  oh? its beenrunning for over a week here.
[05:51] <frank_> what's the way can i solution that?
[05:51] <Parkotron> frank_: Mine doesn't crash, but it's been using 99.9% CPU usage for over twelve hours.
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> Parkotron,  heh - thats scary
[05:52] <frank_> no
[05:52] <shell75> how do i find super user?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> how many downloads?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> !sudo
[05:52] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:52] <Parkotron> frank_: What version are you using?
[05:52] <intelikey> oh grizzly sorry that was @ soulrider_   my bad.
[05:53] <frank_> nothing i can do ! when i openning the Ktorrent the x windows told Ktorrent has been crash
[05:53] <Parkotron> Dr_Willis: Only a couple downloads. I'm not sure what's going on. Everything is still very responsive, so it hasn't been an issue.
[05:53] <Parkotron> The only think it slows down is my OpenGL screensaver.
[05:54] <intelikey> shell75 in cli mode use "sudo"    for gui apps try "kdesu"
[05:54] <foot> Bearcat:  good things. I am progressing fabulisly. but I havent figured out how to register my username here so I cant do the private chat thing yet
[05:54] <shell75> whats cli
[05:54] <intelikey> foot /msg /nickserv help
[05:54] <shell75> im looking to edit packages and list
[05:55] <shell75> im use to using super user to do things
[05:55] <foot> intelikey: from a terminal?
[05:55] <shell75> point/click thing
[05:55] <Hawkwind> foot: No, here in IRC
[05:55] <Parkotron> shell75: Command Line Interface
[05:55] <Hawkwind> foot: /msg nickserv help
[05:55] <intelikey> shell75 cli == command line interface      gui == graphic user interface
[05:55] <Hawkwind> !register > foot
[05:55] <intelikey> foot in here
[05:56] <foot> !register
[05:56] <frank_> does someone konw about that problem
[05:56] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:56] <intelikey> and yeah i typod  the second / doesn't belong as Hawkwind pointed out.
[05:56] <shell75> trying to sudo in term but refuses to accept my pw
[05:56] <foot>  /msg nickserv !register > foot
[05:57] <Hawkwind> foot: /msg nickserv help
[05:57] <Hawkwind> foot: Just like that
[05:57] <intelikey> /msg nickserv help
[05:57] <foot> Hawkwind: I did, but tried to jump ahead.
[05:58] <intelikey> /msg nickserv regester <passwd>
[05:59] <shell75> the instructions on that site sucks tells ya what to do BUT doesnt explain how
[05:59] <intelikey> /msg chanserv help
[05:59] <shell75> i cant find sli or what ever ither
[05:59] <shell75> term in on desktop
[05:59] <shell75> not sure what to type in there to do waht i wanna do
[06:00] <intelikey> shell75 what do you want to do,  maybe i can show you what ot type
[06:00] <intelikey> ?
[06:01] <shell75> edit packes list
[06:01] <shell75> http://seerofsouls.com/ubuntu.html to this
[06:01] <intelikey> sources.list ?
[06:01] <shell75> ya
[06:01] <intelikey> k
[06:01] <Hawkwind> shell75: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:01] <shell75> in term?
[06:01] <Hawkwind> shell75: Type that, then add the line you want to the bottom of that file.  Then click save
[06:01] <intelikey> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:01] <Hawkwind> shell75: Yes, in a term
[06:02] <intelikey> yes in term
[06:02] <shell75> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[06:02] <Hawkwind> I even put in the top box there that you need to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list as root/sudo
[06:02] <Hawkwind> shell75: Ignore it.  I've got a how-to on fixing that as well
[06:02] <intelikey> and kwrite or kate or any text editor you like.  even open office if you like  or nano...
[06:03] <Hawkwind> shell75: Read this post on my forums when you get done dealing with Xchat:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[06:04] <shell75> not working
[06:04] <shell75> driving me nuts
[06:04] <darkwolf> this is just trying everything it can to get under my skin
[06:05] <intelikey> what error now darkwolf ?
[06:05] <shell75> heck with it im gonna try a different os
[06:05] <darkwolf> i downloaded a .deb file and tried to let it do it's thing but kubuntu decided to hate me instead
[06:05] <Bearcat> O.o
[06:05] <darkwolf> dependancy problems preventconfig of xchat-common
[06:06] <intelikey> darkwolf what .deb ?   is it a ubuntu package ?
[06:06] <fut> Bearcat: sorry
[06:06] <darkwolf> yeah
[06:06] <darkwolf> xchat-common_2.6.1-0ubuntu2_all.deb
[06:06] <vale> Nickserv juan
[06:06] <intelikey> so now do a sudo apt-get install -f
[06:07] <intelikey> that should finish the install/config by pulling in the deps
[06:07] <vale> hi, somo body help me with wireless Ralink?
[06:08] <Bearcat> what'cha doing foot?
[06:09] <foot> Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20520 take a look there are some errors towerds the bottom
[06:10] <vale> some speak spanish?
[06:10] <vale> alguien habla espaol?
[06:11] <Bearcat> foot: loading
[06:11] <Hawkwind> vale: Try in #Kubuntu-ES
[06:11] <foot> Bearcat: checking permissions
[06:12] <vale> thanks Hawkwind
[06:12] <maltaethiron> attention anyone who wants a rediculously cheap harddrive: http://digg.com/tech_deals/Holy_200_GB_HDD_for_58_Cents
[06:12] <vale> bye
[06:12] <Bearcat> foot: well, that's looking hopefull
[06:12] <maltaethiron> i freaked out when i saw this
[06:13] <intelikey> darkwolf it working for ya ?
[06:13] <darkwolf> no
[06:13] <darkwolf> it is not going anywhere
[06:13] <darkwolf> it just keeps dropping connection
[06:13] <foot> Bearcat: It looks like the permissions are read only, do the need to be able to modify? I shouldnt think so but...
[06:13] <intelikey> oooh yuvh      wireless ?
[06:14] <actinic> Dr_Willis, u there?
[06:14] <darkwolf> nah
[06:14] <darkwolf> wired
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> Hmm?
[06:14] <actinic> Dr_Willis, yesterday u mentioned 'hidden grub menu' default to be very very stupid
[06:14] <intelikey> hmmm what nls are your repos ?   or generic ?
[06:14] <actinic> how do u remove
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> actinic,  uncomment/deltet it in the grub  menu.lst
[06:15] <darkwolf> nls?
[06:15] <intelikey> national mirror
[06:15] <darkwolf> all i'm getting is just 104 errors
[06:15] <actinic> ok, i'm searching for menu.lst
[06:15] <Bearcat> foot: i know we can get idtv workig, but i do not' know a whole lot about it specificly
[06:15] <darkwolf> nzarchive
[06:16] <fatejudger> how can I change the background in Konqueror for the file manager mode?
[06:16] <darkwolf> Err http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main libglib1.2 1.2.10-10.1build1
[06:16] <darkwolf>   Error reading from server - read (104 Connection reset by peer)
[06:16] <darkwolf> Get:2 http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main libcupsys2 1.2.2-0ubuntu0                                                                                                   .6.06 [121kB] 
[06:16] <darkwolf> Err http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main libcupsys2 1.2.2-0ubuntu0.6                                                                                                   .06
[06:16] <darkwolf>   Error reading from server - read (104 Connection reset by peer)
[06:16] <foot> ok, anyone else here familiar with ivtv?
[06:16] <intelikey> darkwolf hmmm might try au or other locally close
[06:16] <damian_> i have a question
[06:16] <Admiral_Chicago> damian_, ask
[06:16] <darkwolf> sorry
[06:16] <maltaethiron> hawkwind: was it you that mentioned easyUbuntu earlier?
[06:17] <intelikey> in the sources.list
[06:17] <darkwolf> sorry
[06:17] <darkwolf> mean to paste: http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main
[06:17] <damian_> I added a binary I want to be started at statup in /etc/init.d ...how do I get it to startup at startup?
[06:17] <seth> anyone have any idea regarding this situation: I installed Vista (which overwrote grub), then subsequently removed Vista, switched from bootmgr back to ntldr, and now I'm unable to reinstall grub (it corrupts the bootloader every time and nothing will boot until I run an XP fixmbr)
[06:17] <Admiral_Chicago> damian_, /home/user/.kde/Autostart?
[06:18] <damian_> Admiral_Chicago: it's a service that runs in the background
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> damian_,  depends on what it is.
[06:18] <intelikey> darkwolf dapper/main ???    not dapper main ???
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> damian_,  could put it in /etc/rc.local
[06:18] <darkwolf> no
[06:18] <damian_> Dr_Willis: I'll try that
[06:18] <maltaethiron> did hawkwind leave?
[06:18] <darkwolf> i literally copied and pasted from Konsole
[06:18] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[06:18] <damian_> Dr_Willis: do I have to do anything after putting it there?
[06:19] <Bearcat> foot: i don't think so
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> damian_,  its a script that gets ran on each reboot. be sure your commands  spawn to the background.
[06:19] <foot> Bearcat: so I changed the user and group.
[06:19] <intelikey> if that will work with the / in it it's new to me.   i won't say it wont cause i'm kinda new to apt    but try it without it
[06:20] <Bearcat> foot: can you print me out the "ls -l " of the hotplug directory?
[06:20] <Search4Lancer> ^^$#&^&*^*&( Firefox closing itself out of nowhere......
[06:21] <foot> why does kubuntu have root root as the default user and grupe when in kubuntu there is not really a user called root?
[06:21] <Jucato> !seen draik
[06:21] <ubotu> I last saw draik (n=draik@cpe-67-49-7-244.socal.res.rr.com) 9h 16m 59s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[06:21] <Bearcat> foot: there is
[06:22] <foot> I know that there is root, yet it does cause som difficulty
[06:22] <intelikey> foot there is always a user called root in linux.
[06:22] <Bearcat> foot: that is to say, there is a user called root, but you don't have direct access to it
[06:23] <maltaethiron> so why would there be a user that i didnt create that i dont have direct access to?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> direct logging in as root is disabled.
[06:23] <intelikey> foot kubuntu has root as the default user ???    where ?   please explain ?
[06:23] <Search4Lancer> goddamnit it did it again, right in the middle of something!
[06:23] <Bearcat> intelikey: nowhere
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> you make a initial user - that user then has the 'sudo' powers.
[06:23] <Bearcat> if i used kubuntu it would drive me *nuts*
[06:23] <intelikey> Bearcat he's getting information some place...
[06:24] <Bearcat> intelikey: hmm?
[06:24] <maltaethiron> bearcat: why is there a user that we dont have direct access to?
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> maltaethiron,  which user are you refering to?
[06:24] <maltaethiron> refering to root
[06:24] <Bearcat> maltaethiron: kubuntu is kinda a beginners distro. It's designed to keep you out of trouble
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> root is "SPECIAL"  :P
[06:24] <Bearcat> maltaethiron: root can do ANYTHNG
[06:25] <maltaethiron> so root = god?
[06:25] <maltaethiron> lol jk
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> you cant direct login to him.. ie: no gdm/kdm login, or console direct login.
[06:25] <foot> intelikey:  I am still trying to install ivtv for the wintv-pvr 150. making progress, but I have to go into the files and change permissions so that my main login can have access to be able to read the firmware. it is just another  thing to do. I am getting used to linux so these things are becomming less of a pain. but still a hassle
[06:25] <Bearcat> maltaethiron: for instance if you log in as root and type "rm -r /*" you entire hardrive will be erased.
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> Linux FUNdamentals.
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> and perhaps all the hard drives. :P
[06:25] <maltaethiron> oh...that would be very bad
[06:25] <Bearcat> foot: i don't think that is the issue
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> time to read some Linux guides. :)
[06:25] <Bearcat> foot: leave them as root
[06:25] <intelikey> foot ah i stand under you now.
[06:25] <maltaethiron> heh, my uncle gave me some huge linux bible when he introduced me to ubuntu
[06:26] <Bearcat> foot: everything there is happenign in a runlevel that only root should have access to
[06:26] <foot> intelikey: dont look up
[06:26] <shocktrooper1> how to determine my isp?
[06:26] <Bearcat> shocktrooper1: your service provider?
[06:26] <foot> Bearcat: ok I will switch them back. but the files that it says it cant read are right there where it says it is looking for them!
[06:26] <shocktrooper1> isp address
[06:27] <maltaethiron> !google earth
[06:27] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[06:28] <Bearcat> it says it can't open them
[06:28] <shocktrooper1> I'm adding php and mysql in apache to make a site.  I need to find my isp address for some functions
[06:28] <Bearcat> foot: it says it can't open them, not that it cant find them..
[06:28] <Bearcat> can you paste that ls -l for me?
[06:28] <intelikey> your question might be restated as "why does linux install new filew with owner root"   the answer is that is default behaviour for the simple reason, anything that is owned by root is secure on the system.  the permissions are then set to something like 755 for executables  and  644  for docs and libs   that way users can read/execute but not alter them.
[06:28] <foot> Bearcat: right. why cant it open them? I will get it a knife if it wants one ;P
[06:29] <Bearcat> i donno. can you show me that ls -l ?
[06:29] <foot> Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20522
[06:32] <foot> Bearcat: so from what I  read it all stems from not being able to load the irmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
[06:33] <intelikey> foot the veriable that affects the exact permissions is the "umask" in /etc/profile or other configuration files    umask is read as   7-#  seven minus number  a umask of 022 will set a permission of 755 on executables   a umaks of 027 would set them 750     these numbers may seem strange to you  the first is owner perm   second is group perm  and then other perm (world)    7=wre  binary  1+1+1  6=wr-  or 1+1+0    and so fo
[06:34] <intelikey> that's conclusion to the former post ^
[06:35] <intelikey> errr transpose rw ^
[06:35] <intelikey> read write execute
[06:35] <foot> intelikey: ok the binary is over my head at the moment, but thank you. I think that will take a few more months for me to really get.
[06:36] <intelikey> ok.
[06:36] <rpug> heh. i'm attempting to make kubuntu run on a usb external hd. any tips?
[06:36] <intelikey> there 10 kinds of peopel in the world.  those that understand binarry and those that dont.
[06:37] <intelikey> :)
[06:37] <rpug> quoting thinkgeek shirts doesn't make you cool :p
[06:37] <Bearcat> foot: ok.
[06:37] <intelikey> never seen a thinking shirt rpug
[06:38] <foot> Bearcat: ok what?
[06:38] <Bearcat> foot: the grey box that says "The Hauppauge cards require firmware files, as the firmware is not stored in the ROMs on the card..."  Did you do all the commands in that box? One of them loads the file you need
[06:38] <foot> intelikey: rpug lol
[06:38] <intelikey> but that saying has been around over thirty years that i know of... probably much longer   doesn't surprise me that it made a tee shirt
[06:39] <foot> Bearcat: yes
[06:39] <Bearcat> foot: ahh. one moment
[06:39] <Bearcat> foot: i see something here
[06:41] <intelikey> foot Bearcat is probably on to the answer there, the error you posted mentioned error trying to load firmware did it not ?
[06:41] <foot> intelikey: yes
[06:42] <Bearcat> intelikey: yeah the instructions are talking about v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw and dmesg is looking for v4l-cx25840.fw
[06:42] <foot> intelikey: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
[06:42] <Bearcat> so we have a version problem here
[06:42] <intelikey> yep
[06:42] <Bearcat> let me see if i can find the right file
[06:42] <foot> Bearcat: intelikey but wait theres more
[06:42] <intelikey> k
[06:44] <intelikey> foot any errors after the failed firmware could be caused by the failed firmware..... so unless it is another firmware error  it's prolly not relevent atm.
[06:44] <Bearcat> intelikey: he's missing files here
[06:45] <Bearcat> foot: there needs to be files in that dir that look like v4l-cx25840.fw
[06:45] <foot> intelikey: yes. I got that already. thanks. it is looking at the same file that is in there. I am looking at it now.
[06:45] <foot> Bearcat: yes there is one
[06:45] <Bearcat> foot: i don't see it in what you posted
 intelikey: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw <--- ?
[06:47] <foot> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20524
[06:48] <cybereden> hi
[06:48] <DFM> hi
[06:49] <intelikey> yeah i'd say that you need another file.   ivtv0: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
[06:49] <cybereden> i installed dapper recently, install w32codecs from adept, followed wiki, now cannot play wmv files, says it's encrypted or something or does not play normally. please help. tnx.
[06:49] <Bearcat> foot: oh! no.
[06:50] <Bearcat> foot: i need "ls -l /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware"
[06:50] <Bearcat> foot: sorry, i didn't ven see that it was the wrong dir
[06:50] <foot> Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20525  I just typed it in
[06:51] <foot> Bearcat:  I am still not to fast at the changing directories.
[06:51] <Bearcat> foot: no problem
[06:51] <intelikey> hmmmm  :S
[06:52] <Bearcat> foot: was that an ls -l ? There shoud be permissions, ownerships and sizes listed
[06:53] <foot> Bearcat: nope I typed it in from the visual interface hang on
[06:53] <jorge___> hi, i was wondering, is there a way i can share a /dev/ within my lan?
[06:54] <cybereden> please help on kaffeine
[06:54] <Bearcat> foot: thank you
[06:55] <foot> Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20527
[06:55] <intelikey> jorge___ nmap ?
[06:55] <Parkotron> cybereden: w32codecs doesn't support the latest version of wmv.
[06:55] <todd> ...damn, that was the easiest I've ever gotten into an irc room lol.
[06:55] <todd> .. eh, hi everyone.
[06:55] <todd> if anyone is even alive...
[06:56] <jorge___> nmap ?
[06:56] <jorge___> i want to share /dev/video
[06:56] <DFM> hi
[06:56] <intelikey> welcome to the channel todd
[06:56] <todd> Thanks
[06:56] <cybereden> Parkotron: thanks. what should i do then?
[06:56] <todd> I just wanted to know something real quick...
[06:56] <intelikey> jorge___ oh  hehhe i mis read you.  i read search  not share   my bad.
[06:57] <todd> Is a Windows install required in order to get WINE working?
[06:57] <jorge___> :)
[06:57] <insanekane> todd: no
[06:57] <DFM> no
[06:57] <todd> Does it have to read files from the windows partition, or does it have libraries built in..?
[06:57] <darkwolf> how can i install my dev tools
[06:57] <Parkotron> cybereden: If you can't get the file is some other format, you'll have to use a Windows machine.
[06:57] <insanekane> todd: it has libs built in
[06:57] <Bearcat> foot: oh! i think i see it
[06:57] <darkwolf> they are screwed i think
[06:57] <darkwolf> i.e. glib
[06:57] <todd> Oh ok. So, I installed WINE through Automatix (this is fresh install of Kubuntu).
[06:58] <todd> Haven't configured it yet.
[06:58] <todd> ... gonna try that out now actually . Last time I did it on my other machine I think I made half the internet explode.Heh that would be great on video ...
[06:58] <intelikey> todd built in but some dlls you may have to dl to get some things to work  and some thing just plain wont work piriod.
[06:58] <todd> Yea i understand its hit or moss.
[06:58] <Parkotron> cybereden: Or maybe you could mess around VMWare or wine or something else along those lines, but that seems excessive just to watch a video file.
[06:58] <todd> ...err, miss even,
[06:59] <DFM> I just added repos and downloaded through apt
[06:59] <Bearcat> foot: fair warning, i'm going to bed in an hour. I have a very early morning
[06:59] <cybereden> Parkotron: thanks. i'll look for a converter. good idea.
[06:59] <plugs> since i started using my ipod with kubuntu, it can only see 256 songs.
[06:59] <cybereden> Parkotron: as much as possible, i do want to stick with my linux
[07:00] <todd> So where would I get these DLLs if I needed them? Like, if I tried to run a Windows progra in WINE...and the it wouldn't work, would it tell me what DLL I need? Then I can just... google for that file and download it..? I assume that's how it would work, but I haven't messed with Linux in a while.
[07:00] <foot> Bearcat: fair nuff. youve givin me many hourse on this so far, and I am eminintly thankfull.
[07:00] <toxicfume> Hi all
[07:00] <Parkotron> cybereden: Can't blame you there.
[07:00] <Bearcat> foot: no problem. What are fiends for?
[07:00] <todd> This keyboard SUCKS. The n key is sticking, heh.
[07:00] <cybereden> question: i cannot make my MA-620 IR to work. please help.
[07:00] <intelikey> todd yeah
[07:00] <foot> intelikey:  have you been following this very far?
[07:00] <intelikey> foot no.
[07:00] <todd> ...lol.
[07:00] <toxicfume> I have a perfectly working installation of Kubuntu, but now I want to move this installation from this partition to a different, bigger partition, how can i do that? And how can i make sure the bootmanager doesn't mess up? Please help, thanks!
[07:01] <vale> i need help with rt2400
[07:01] <jorge___> intelikey, do you know where can i find some information about this topic?
[07:01] <intelikey> foot and like Bearcat i also will be leaving shortly.
[07:01] <Bearcat> intelikey: we're trying to install ivtv, which i understand is a challenge for anyone
[07:01] <foot> intelikey: ok thanks for what youve done
[07:01] <todd> What I really want to know, is if there is a backup program similar to System Restore in Windows XP... (cough) but the point is, I want a program that can back the system if I decide to mess with XGL...or...system stuff and break my install. Would have to have to reistall everytime.
[07:02] <intelikey> jorge___ abut wine ?
[07:02] <intelikey> about wine ?
[07:02] <Bearcat> ok foot, let me study this for a minute or two
[07:02] <jorge___> no, i need to share /dev/video0 within my lan, so i can use it from any pc
[07:02] <intelikey> jorge___ or sharing on lan  what topic ?
[07:02] <intelikey> ok
[07:03] <intelikey> ah....   thinking.
[07:03] <intelikey> actually no...
[07:03] <jorge___> lol
[07:04] <jorge___> ok, thanks intelikey, but you think it would be doable?
[07:04] <intelikey> google may help   http://google.com/linux and search    if no one in here or #ubuntu   can help ask in  ##linux
[07:04] <jorge___> ok thnks
[07:04] <intelikey> jorge___ no doubt it is
[07:05] <intelikey> jorge___ i have never yet asked linux to do anything that it couldn't do.
[07:05] <jorge___> lol
[07:05] <jorge___> u're right
[07:05] <intelikey> i believe it's the most powerful os in the world bar none.
[07:05] <jorge___> it just came to me
[07:06] <jorge___> i agree
[07:06] <hansx> moin
[07:06] <hansx> i'm looking for an usenet client for kde
[07:07] <Bearcat> foot: i may have found something but the page is in Russian. Luckily Konqueror can translate it (look at the Tools...Traslate" item :)
[07:08] <foot> Bearcat: SWWEEET
[07:08] <plugs> my ipod can only see 256 of its songs, what should i do?
[07:08] <plugs> this has been happening since i've been using kubuntu
[07:09] <ronnie_> I have a perfectly working installation of Kubuntu, but now I want to move this installation from this partition to a different, bigger partition, how can i do that? And how can i make sure the bootmanager doesn't mess up? Please help, thanks!
[07:10] <todd> Ronnie, how big is your HDD?
[07:11] <todd> How big is your current linux partition, what is it formatted in, and whats the size of the new partition, and what is IT formatted in?
[07:11] <todd> ext3, reiserfs ...ect?
[07:11] <todd> And why are you wanting to do that (wil help me figure out how to help) ...
[07:12] <todd> aaand pretty sure my connection just DIED.
[07:25] <charles1952> HELP!!! I'm back in BillGate's Land becasue I can no longer log on to Kubuntu...I'm a newbie to linux....but already addicted...and now I'm locked out. <gasp> Is anyone available that is an advanced user that can lend a hand???
[07:25] <foot> maltaethiron: you bored and want to think for a bit?
[07:25] <Bearcat> foot: i found a ivtv mailing list for help. I'm gonna search the archives
[07:25] <maltaethiron> sure foot, why not
[07:26] <hansx> I'm looking for an usenet client, could anybody help me?
[07:26] <foot> maltaethiron: ok I am in the end of installing the ivtv drivers and dmesg cant open the folder that is where it is looking.
[07:27] <foot> maltaethiron:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20527
[07:27] <abattoir> charles1952: could you explain your situation a bit more? can you see the login screen? does it not log you in after you enter your password? is your password right?
[07:27] <Bearcat> maltaethiron: we are following this: http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html
[07:27] <maltaethiron> ok, lemme take a look
[07:28] <maltaethiron> ill try to help you guys, but mind you i'm a noob
[07:28] <Bearcat> maltaethiron: this is his dmesg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20520
[07:28] <charles1952> abattoir: Yes...I had installed some new programs from the universal repository...
[07:28] <maltaethiron> but i can try to think
[07:28] <abattoir> charles1952: xgl/compiz by any chance?
[07:28] <charles1952> and one of them was to configure user security and boot options...I forget the programs name because I grabbed about 10 different files....
[07:29] <abattoir> charles1952: and i asked a lot of questions... yes for which one? :P
[07:30] <charles1952> well...I logged off to go out for awhile...didn't run any programs....when I restarted the machine it takes me to logon screen...then will only take me to a Bash window...when I close...
[07:30] <charles1952> Bash it returns me to the logon screen again.
[07:30] <charles1952> and my password is right
[07:31] <charles1952> whew
[07:31] <abattoir> charles1952: ok, so you boot up, you see a root prompt, when you quit that prompt, everything boots up normally... right?
[07:31] <maltaethiron> foot: i love how it asks you if you put the firmware in the correct directory
[07:31] <maltaethiron> foot: but sorry bro, i got nothin
[07:32] <charles1952> No...I boot...it takes me to the Kubuntu logon screen...I enter my password...and then it takes me to a Bash shell...but won't let me go to the regular GUI
[07:32] <foot> maltaethiron: thanks for looking.
[07:32] <charles1952> When I close the Bash screen, it returns me to the login prompt.
[07:32] <maltaethiron> np foot
[07:33] <charles1952> (I'm in a closed loop)
[07:33] <SpAwN> charles1952, so it doesnt boot to cli?
[07:33] <charles1952> No
[07:33] <charles1952> only to a Bash session
[07:33] <SpAwN> charles1952, edit /etc/inittab
[07:34] <charles1952> ok...and what should I change in that shell file
[07:34] <charles1952> ??
[07:34] <SpAwN> so it runs in init 5....
[07:35] <SpAwN> i forget the exact line....
[07:35] <SpAwN> !init
[07:35] <ubotu> Boot options: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[07:36] <Bearcat> well foot, i'm looking at this: http://www.ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware
[07:36] <SpAwN> charles1952, or u can try when u get to the root prompt
[07:36] <Bearcat> foot: however, it just gives me more feelings of "huh"? becuse i don't know how to check to see what version of ivtv you have
[07:36] <SpAwN> charles1952, type /etc/init.d/kdm star
[07:36] <SpAwN> * charles1952, type /etc/init.d/kdm start
[07:37] <foot> bea just a ces
[07:37] <foot> Bearcat: just a sec
[07:37] <charles1952> okay...I'll try all these suggestions...you have all been helpful....Hope to come back and thank you personally from my new installation!!!
[07:37] <SpAwN> charles1952, that command will start the gui
[07:37] <charles1952> great!
[07:38] <SpAwN> and u will at least have a gui for the mean time...u can set up the puter to start in runlevel 5 which is the gui
[07:38] <charles1952> Thanks again to all of you..great support community!
[07:38] <SpAwN> np
[07:38] <charles1952> bye 4 now while I go fix things up
[07:39] <foot> Bearcat: well I have two versions on the comp. 0.4.4  0.4.6 but we just did the install for 0.4.4
[07:39] <noiesmo> I'm doing an upgrade from dapper to edgy and openoffice is giving me hassles and I am unable to use apt-get -f install as it ends with a broken pipe error how can i force remove of openoffice to reinstall later
[07:39] <Bearcat> foot: hmm
[07:39] <plugs> is it possible to boot off an ipod?
[07:39] <plugs> using usb
[07:40] <foot> Bearcat: this is what happens when you start over to make a triple install effort.
[07:40] <Bearcat> foot: lol
[07:40] <Bearcat> no doubt
[07:43] <maltaethiron> foot and bearcat: im still here rootin for you guys on the sidelines
[07:43] <Bearcat> thank
[07:43] <foot> thx maltaethiron
[07:43] <maltaethiron> heh
[07:43] <maltaethiron> np
[07:43] <Bearcat> this is fsking rediculous
[07:54] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:55] <Bearcat> foot: sorry, man. I'm fading out
[07:55] <foot> Bearcat: me too
[07:55] <Bearcat> foot: i need to call it a night
[07:55] <foot> Bearcat: love ya, sleep well
[07:55] <Bearcat> foot: you too. I'll be around tomorrow night
[07:56] <foot> Bearcat: I gotta get up fairly early roo
[07:56] <foot> too
[07:56] <Bearcat> laters foot
[07:56] <Bearcat> *scampers off*
[07:56] <foot> Bearcat: night
[07:57] <shell75> hawkwind u still here?
[07:58] <shell75> anyone know the site that tells ya about the updates options for kubuntu for dep packages?
[07:59] <lhds>  i have downloaded and made deb packs for ati ver 8.24.8 i have made a previous install of drivers vers 8.27 but i uninstalled with synaptic. but when i sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx it asks me to install the 8.27 vers ... how to remove them completely?
[07:59] <lhds> (08:59:25) greyballoon: farous: I think I must have lost the device
[08:00] <volvogouy> any amarok pros in here? they seem a bit quiet on their own channel. (i'm using kubuntu. hehe)
[08:03] <cybereden> hi
[08:03] <noiesmo> is there a file I can edit to remove a dpkg-divert
[08:03] <cybereden> how to get internet connection using bluetooth on my palm?
[08:06] <wolfmanz> can you get gimp shop from adept?
[08:07] <Jucato> wolfmanz: last time I checked, no
[08:07] <volvogouy> wolfmanz: i just checked - you can't.
[08:08] <volvogouy> i've been searching for a little while now and haven't found an answer, so i thought i'd ask here. can amarok save the album artwork it fetches in the id3 tags or only in it's own database?
[08:21] <maltaethiron> foot, bearcat: any luck?
[08:22] <foot> nope. he went to bed and I am about to follow
[08:22] <maltaethiron> sounds like a plan, its freakin two in the morning
[08:27] <tobias_> how do i use an external monitor on my portable? I have to reboot to get it working, is there a way to not reboot to make it work?
[08:27] <tobias_> i need the "use external monitor now!" button
[08:28] <pressbuttan2win> how can I get mkfs.jffs2 on the live CD?
[08:28] <maltaethiron> well, do you plug the moniter in when the computer's off?
[08:28] <maltaethiron> or on
[08:28] <tobias_> maltaethiron: I plug it in before i reboot
[08:28] <tobias_> maltaethiron: and when it has finished rebooting, it works fine
[08:29] <tobias_> maltaethiron: and when it has finished rebooting, it works fine
[08:29] <tobias_> opps
[08:29] <tobias_> sorry
[08:29] <maltaethiron> heh np
[08:29] <maltaethiron> hmm
[08:29] <tobias_> maltaethiron: its just a luxury problem really, just wondering if it has the same function as windows, that i can just activate it, cause it is installed and everything
[08:29] <maltaethiron> right
[08:29] <maltaethiron> uhh
[08:30] <Red_Herring> poll
[08:30] <tobias_> maltaethiron: want to show my friends how cool and easy stuff is :)
[08:30] <maltaethiron> heheh, who doesnt
[08:30] <maltaethiron> ok go red herring
[08:30] <Red_Herring> cs server, whats the better name? REAP (Really extremely awesome people) or JsBT(just some bored teens)
[08:30] <maltaethiron> i kinda like REAP
[08:30] <tobias_> hmmm, thats a tough one lol
[08:31] <tobias_> id have to go with reap too
[08:32] <maltaethiron> tobias_: i think youre stuck with rebooting your computer, i dont know of a "use moniter now" button er whatever...
[08:32] <maltaethiron> um..hold on
[08:32] <Red_Herring> on to #ubuntu
[08:32] <maltaethiron> lemme ask someone else
[08:32] <tobias_> thanx:)
[08:33] <Shan_> how do I format a partition to fat?
[08:33] <user_> jonah18jinkie
[08:33] <Shan_> from linux/
[08:33] <pressbuttan2win> anyone know how i can get jffs2 for partitioning :)
[08:34] <maltaethiron> tobias_: sorry bro, i'm stumped
[08:34] <maltaethiron> i dont know of any programs or anything that would have anything to do with that
[08:34] <maltaethiron> like, activating moniters in linux
[08:34] <user_> hi
[08:35] <user_> ny1 ctc
[08:36] <pressbuttan2win> anyone know anything about apt-get in ubuntu?
[08:36] <leileilol> ok, finally installed kubuntu 6.06.1
[08:36] <leileilol> :)
[08:37] <leileilol> dual boot works with xp64 and i was also able to resize my 140gb partition enough to have a 4.2gb parititon for kubuntu
[08:37] <leileilol> installation was pretty flawless
[08:37] <leileilol> the only flaws were my cd media, i had to burn it three times
[08:37] <tobias_> maltaethiron: thanks anyway :)
[08:37] <maltaethiron> anytime
[08:37] <pressbuttan2win> does apt-get have a frontend in ubuntu?
[08:37] <leileilol> you can use synaptic/kynaptic
[08:38] <maltaethiron> frontend?
[08:38] <tobias_> adept!
[08:38] <maltaethiron> ah yeah
[08:38] <tobias_> at least in kubuntu adept is great
[08:38] <pressbuttan2win> I'm trying to find the package that gives me jffs2 filesystems
[08:38] <maltaethiron> i use synaptic
[08:38] <leileilol> the next big hurdle will be getting my radeon 9500pro to work on this
[08:38] <pressbuttan2win> and it's giving me a bunch of headaches
[08:38] <pressbuttan2win> I'll try that
[08:38] <tobias_> is synaptic better maybe?
[08:39] <maltaethiron> idk, i like it a little more than adept
[08:39] <tobias_> aha
[08:39] <maltaethiron> idk why exactly
[08:39] <tobias_> personal flavours are inexplainable :)
[08:40] <pressbuttan2win> ahhh, no jffs2 packages
[08:41] <Kuto> how do you install or open kde in a newly installed kubuntu, i only logged as user in command prompt, is it the same as startX?
[08:41] <maltaethiron> what do you mean open kde?
[08:42] <Kuto> desktop console
[08:42] <farous> Kuto: did you make a server install
[08:42] <Kuto> farous: yes
[08:42] <maltaethiron> ahh,
[08:42] <farous> Kuto: with server install you do not have gui
[08:43] <farous> i do not think kde is installed
[08:43] <Kuto> but its kubuntu?
[08:43] <farous> its a server install. servers are controlled through the command line
[08:43] <tk> kubuntu server is designed to run command line to provide more resources to the server applications
[08:43] <tk> any server software thats *nix based really
[08:44] <Kuto> farous: so what do i do so that i can have a kde desktop?
[08:44] <farous> Kuto: anyway you can still install kubuntu-desktop
[08:44] <farous> a meta package that will install everything you need
[08:45] <link_36p> How can i set PKG_CONFIG_PATH?
[08:45] <Kuto> farous: from the cd?
[08:46] <farous> i think ya. better from the net to get all the new updates
[08:46] <tobias_> apt get something
[08:47] <link_36p> How to i set the environment varible for PKG_CONFIG_PATH?
[08:50] <leileilol> oddly, firefox package refuses to download
[09:02] <maltaethiron> leileilol: which package?
[09:04] <leileilol> mozilla-firefox
[09:04] <maltaethiron> oh, the firefox package itself
[09:04] <maltaethiron> i thought you meant like a plugin
[09:04] <maltaethiron> cause i was having some plugin trouble
[09:04] <leileilol> nope
[09:04] <leileilol> and installing it on adept just marks it red with a BREAK or so
[09:05] <maltaethiron> hmm
[09:05] <maltaethiron> i installed it through konsole
[09:05] <maltaethiron> sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[09:05] <maltaethiron> thats all i did
[09:05] <maltaethiron> and i got it...
[09:06] <leileilol> ok i fixed it
[09:06] <leileilol> apparently i had to enable other repositories
[09:06] <maltaethiron> ahh
[09:09] <leileilol> notei  haven't used kubuntu since breezy in 2005 :)
[09:09] <Scak> :le
[09:10] <lhds> when i sudo module-assistant prepare,update ||| sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx it loads the newer vers of the driver the one i removed the .debs from synaptic
[09:10] <lhds> how to make it understand that i want to load the older version?
[09:11] <todd> Arrgh. Hey everyone...
[09:11] <lhds> how? please how?
[09:11] <todd> I am getting so many errors, heh...
[09:11] <todd> How do I edit a text file as root in ther terminal?
[09:12] <todd> I need to create a txt file and have the ability to save it.... so need root access.
[09:12] <lhds> sudo nano .... text.extention
[09:12] <todd> hmm. nano. lemme try that
[09:13] <todd> Ok. I added the text I wanted to.... but can't figure out how to save it...
[09:13] <todd> ^Writeout ...
[09:14] <lhds> contol x
[09:14] <lhds> than y
[09:14] <todd> err, wtf is that about?
[09:14] <lhds> than enter
[09:14] <todd> Oh, ^ means control key?
[09:14] <wolfmanz> you could have also done sudo kate and had a gui editor
[09:14] <Scak> mmm...
[09:14] <todd> I tried editing it Kate but it refused to save it.
[09:14] <lhds> he wants it under terminal ;)
[09:14] <todd> well, terminal seems to be the only way it will work
[09:14] <lhds> you sudo kate?
[09:14] <todd> something odd going on with my permissions.
[09:14] <lhds> i hate kate
[09:14] <todd> ... i think i tried that.
[09:14] <insanekane> why dont you just do "kdesu kate"
[09:15] <lhds> i prefer gedit
[09:15] <todd> but, kate is a bitch heh.
[09:15] <todd> ... i didnt try kdesu.
[09:15] <lhds> hate
[09:15] <lhds> is what i feel for you
[09:15] <todd> going to try that out of curiousity now that u said that
[09:15] <lhds> your name kate
[09:15] <lhds> for the execution
[09:15] <lhds> and i dont want you here and i want you dead
[09:15] <lhds> kate
[09:15] <lhds> kill kate man
[09:15] <lhds> its xkill
[09:16] <todd> Alright, I get this output ... its messed up.
[09:16] <Scak> I'm currently AFK. Please leave a message.
[09:17] <todd> todd@ubuntu:~$ kdesu kate
[09:17] <todd> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[09:17] <todd>   Major opcode:  145
[09:17] <todd>   Minor opcode:  3
[09:17] <todd>   Resource id:  0x0
[09:17] <todd> Failed to open device
[09:17] <todd> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[09:17] <todd>   Major opcode:  145
[09:17] <todd>   Minor opcode:  3
[09:17] <todd>   Resource id:  0x0
[09:17] <todd> Failed to open device
[09:17] <todd> err sorry about the flood there
[09:18] <lhds> go get a bin and cleat that RIGHTNOW
[09:18] <wolfmanz> that error maybe to do with not having a pen and tablet on your system
[09:19] <todd> what?
[09:19] <lhds> dont you have a pen and a paper on your table?
[09:20] <todd> ... nope.
[09:20] <wolfmanz> when i first put kubuntu on i was getting an error like that when i loaded kate up and it turns out it was to do with a pen and tablet missing you have to go into the xorg.conf file and comment some stuff out in there to make that error go away
[09:20] <lhds> it makes me angry when they call it samba
[09:20] <lhds> it gives me headaches
[09:20] <todd> ok...
[09:20] <todd> what do i edit out?
[09:21] <lhds> ./edit hell and make it heaven wah wah
[09:21] <lhds> sorry mate
[09:21] <wolfmanz> wait just checking now and i get the same error your getting
[09:21] <todd> really,lol...
[09:21] <wolfmanz> ya
[09:21] <todd> good to hear i didnt mess up the install yet..
[09:21] <todd> lol
[09:21] <todd> Since I'm not the only one getting it.
[09:22] <wolfmanz> no no i think this is the same thing its looking for a device not there
[09:22] <lhds> anyone who has an ati graphic card?
[09:22] <todd> You know what to edit out of the xorg.config?
[09:22] <todd> ... i have ati. on both my laptops.
[09:23] <todd> .. piss me off too, cuz they aren't as good with opensource .. drivers ect as nvidia.
[09:23] <lhds> have you heard of that?
[09:23] <lhds> sudo module-assistant prepare,update sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx
[09:23] <wolfmanz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212025
[09:23] <lhds> did you type it before?
[09:24] <todd> funny thing is..
[09:24] <todd> i have a wacom tablet
[09:24] <lhds> i typed it
[09:24] <todd> but its never touched this laptop.
[09:24] <lhds> but its running the earlier version
[09:24] <lhds> i have removed the debs from synaptic
[09:24] <todd> maybe it will actually not show that error if i have my waco tablet connected to my vaio.
[09:24] <lhds> but still it loads the newer vers
[09:25] <wolfmanz> Now i know why i'm getting that error i reset that xorg.conf file a few times so i will have to edit it again and that error will go away
[09:25] <ubuntu> hello @all can you send me the german channel
[09:25] <todd> Hmm.
[09:25] <todd> What are you editing?
[09:25] <todd> in the file *
[09:25] <lhds> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:26] <wolfmanz> read the link i put up
[09:26] <todd> i read the first few posts
[09:26] <todd> and then got distracted by scary movie 4 on the tv
[09:26] <todd> lol
[09:26] <todd> and popcorn, hold on a sec here.
[09:26] <shocktrooper1> where is the htdoc located for php5?
[09:27] <lhds> you are not serius toodd
[09:27] <wolfmanz> 3rd post down shows you what to comment out and that does fix the error
[09:28] <todd> Yea I noticed that...
[09:28] <todd> was reading the rest too... just cuz i was wondering what else tehre was
[09:28] <todd> .. or not .. there is one whole post on the second page.
[09:36] <ubuntu> can evrybody send me the name of the german kubuntu channel?
[09:38] <ubuntu> please
[09:38] <todd> type "/list" without the quotation marks
[09:38] <todd> and maybe you will see it on this server
[09:38] <ubuntu> ok thx
[09:42] <todd> Figure it out?
[09:43] <ubuntu> i have it
[09:43] <todd> ok.
[09:44] <ubuntu> cu bye bye
[09:49] <todd> bye.
[09:49] <kraut> moin
[09:50] <todd> what is moin?
[09:51] <esben> Good morning
[09:51] <esben> at this in Jytland, Denmakr ;)
[09:53] <todd> Hey.. anyone know how to send windows to another desktop in kde
[09:53] <todd> but instead of it leaving the window name in the last desktops task bar list
[09:53] <todd> have it sent to the desktop you sent it to
[09:53] <todd> ..thats what it does in gnome.
[09:53] <Jack1> does somebody know a quick fix for firestarter not asking the password everytime at startup?
[09:54] <Jack1> has anybody tried the sony k800i mobile with kontact/kde? thx
[09:55] <Tm_T> Jack1: 1) it's sony ericsson  2) no, I'm intented to try with my k600i though
[09:55] <shocktrooper1> default locations for .php files in kubuntu?
[09:57] <Jack1> Tm_T: WELLwhy so distinctly sony ericsson? u know what i meant?
[09:57] <Jack1> Tm_T: well as they use the same technic (i guess) it should then work on the k800i too
[09:57] <Jack1> ?
[09:58] <Tm_T> yes
[09:58] <Tm_T> and as I said, I haven't tried it yet, but I will
[09:58] <Jack1> i am looking forward
[09:58] <Jack1> tell here
[09:59] <Tm_T> Jack1: ugh, I'm just compiling kontact so this will take several minutes
[09:59] <Jack1> i got the problem that i moved the clear out button from left of the url address line to right
[09:59] <Jack1> how to get it back?
[09:59] <fred__> hi everybody
[10:00] <root__> fred__, hi
[10:01] <fred__> hi root_
[10:01] <Tm_T> Jack1: well, move it back? ;)
[10:01] <fred__> hi sfkhooper
[10:01] <Tm_T> sfkhooper: you should not irc as root user
[10:01] <Tm_T> sfkhooper: or do anything you really don't have to
[10:01] <Jack1> Tm_T: which version do u use? preferences in kontact? its actuallcy the best PIM i have seen so far
[10:02] <Tm_T> Jack1: well, I use latest svn 3.5 branch
[10:02] <sfkhooper> Tm_T, can't put anything past you ;)
[10:02] <Tm_T> Jack1: that means prolly next version you will use
[10:02] <Jack1> Tm_T: me too
[10:02] <Tm_T> :p
[10:02] <Jack1> Tm_T: well to the ipod nano sync does work
[10:03] <Jack1> when will u try the mobile?
[10:03] <Tm_T> Jack1: as soon as I get my kontact compiled, few minutes ;)
[10:03] <Tm_T> I didn't have thos sync things compiled before, never needed
[10:08] <Tm_T> Jack1: so, you're interested to sync contacts? or what?
[10:11] <Jack1> Tm_T: well yes
[10:11] <Jack1> contacts and calender
[10:11] <Tm_T> hmm, I'll look at it if it works via bt
[10:17] <Jack1> suddenly i get the error cannot open display or x when i try to use any text editor
[10:17] <Jack1> xhost + localhost su is without success
[10:18] <Tm_T> you can't use your current X session as root
[10:18] <Tm_T> that means, use kdesu, sudo or gksu
[10:19] <Jack1> xhost:  unable to open display ""
[10:20] <Tm_T> yeah, if you try to run apps as su
[10:20] <Jack1> kdesu: cannot connect to X server
[10:20] <Tm_T> hmm
[10:20] <Jack1> hmm
[10:20] <zered> do you know a bug with kde 3.5.4 about thumbnails of new wallpapers in desktop configuration ?
[10:20] <Tm_T> Jack1: run kdsesu as normal user
[10:21] <Jack1> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[10:21] <Tm_T> hmm, sounds bad
[10:21] <Tm_T> what you're trying to do?
[10:22] <Jack1> edit a sudoers file
[10:22] <Jack1> just open a goddam editor
[10:22] <Tm_T> aaah
[10:22] <Tm_T> you should edit sudoers list using "visudo"
[10:23] <Tm_T> that's mentioned in manuals if I don't remember wrong
[10:24] <Jack1> isudo -f /etc/sudoers
[10:24] <Jack1> visudo: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[10:24] <Jack1> visudo -f is this wrong here?
[10:26] <Tm_T> err, just "sudo visudo"
[10:26] <Tm_T> why -f
[10:29] <Jack1> it complains that no option afterwards however thx
[10:29] <Jack1> ill leave it
[10:30] <Tm_T> weird, you should not need to specify sudoers file
[10:32] <Jack1> Tm_T:
[10:32] <Jack1> Tm_T: works themobile with kontact?
[10:33] <Tm_T> still compiling
[10:48] <Tm_T> Jack1: ok, now it's compiled, let's see if I get anything useful done with it
[10:51] <Tm_T> Jack1: hmh, sorry, can't understand how this works :p
[10:52] <office_> !ati
[10:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:53] <vengance> l
[10:59] <Jack1> Tm_T: sad
[10:59] <Tm_T> heh
[10:59] <Tm_T> well, you can't know new things rightaway
[10:59] <Tm_T> so, forums and wikis ->
[11:00] <Jack1> is 3.5.4. already in the reps?
[11:02] <Tm_T> Jack1: yes, in separate repositories, see kubuntu.org
[11:02] <Tm_T> ...mooh
[11:04] <jack> where is the config file for the K-menu
[11:04] <jack> i cant add the entry with menu editor
[11:17] <office_> !ati
[11:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:20] <Arkkis> !flash
[11:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:23] <vande> helo
[11:27] <zered> !java
[11:27] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:28] <eeos> !alsa
[11:28] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:33] <nalpha>  guys i have installing nmap after installed how to execute nmap?
[11:39] <ciusbet> hi guys!
[11:40] <ciusbet> i've a question ^^
[11:40] <ciusbet> someone has problems with fonts?
[11:40] <ciusbet> the font size of many programs is too tiny
[11:41] <ciusbet> small
[11:41] <chavo> ciusbet, which programs?
[11:41] <ciusbet> example:
[11:41] <ciusbet> TeamSpeak
[11:41] <ciusbet> and, when i load XGL
[11:41] <ciusbet> i mus change font size to 15
[11:41] <ciusbet> must*
[11:42] <ciusbet> i have to change
[11:42] <chavo> ciusbet, teamspeak I think is written in gtk1
[11:42] <ciusbet> its a font style?
[11:42] <chavo> no it's a widget library, na old one
[11:43] <chavo> you can change the fonts with a ~/.gtkrc file, but I have forgotten the syntax
[11:43] <ciusbet> um
[11:43] <chavo> I could be wrong though
[11:43] <ciusbet> thx chavo
[11:43] <ciusbet> its a little problem
[11:43] <ciusbet> but
[11:44] <ciusbet> i dont like it XD
[11:44] <ciusbet> i cant use XGL because fonts are bad
[11:45] <chavo> ciusbet, Ihave the same fonts in XGL as normal xserver here
[11:45] <chavo> but I set my dpi with a ~/.Xresources file, might be why
[11:45] <ciusbet> i suppose, but me not
[11:46] <ciusbet> aha
[11:46] <chavo> try this -> echo 'Xft.dpi: 96' >> ~/.Xresources
[11:47] <chavo> this will make your dpi 96x96 no matter what xserver or DE you are using
[11:47] <ciusbet> xresources doesnt exist
[11:47] <chavo> you can change it to whatever dpi you prefer
[11:47] <chavo> it will create it with that command
[11:48] <ciusbet> thx chavo
[12:18] <chakie_work> would there be any harm in dowgrading cups on a dapper system? apparently some recent "upgrade" has utterly broken printing for two systems we have at home
[12:19] <chakie_work> we print to a third system (untouched) and both dappers now just print the same rubbish (three lines of random PCL stuff)
[12:23] <ubuntu__> nick pierre
[12:23] <ubuntu__> nick/pierre
[12:27] <tsdgeos> chakie_work: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/blog/418 has some blogs about cups on kubuntu, that may help you (or not)
[12:28] <chakie_work> tsdgeos: yes, that one helped us before when we set up the printing initially
[12:29] <chakie_work> tsdgeos: the thing is that it worked just excellently until some very recent update (we just install what adept tells us to)
[12:29] <tsdgeos> :-/
[12:29] <tsdgeos> ah
[12:29] <tsdgeos> you using dapper already?
[12:29] <chakie_work> this happens for others too, according to the bug db
[12:29] <chakie_work> yes
[12:29] <tsdgeos> and it's a dapper -> dapper-patch that breaks it?
[12:29] <chakie_work> yes
[12:29] <chakie_work> after we upgraded breezy->dapper all worked fine
[12:30] <chakie_work> the bug db says that some update of cups to 1.2.2 broke it for them
[12:30] <chakie_work> ie some comment in the bug db, that is
[12:30] <tsdgeos> then you can unupgrade
[12:30] <tsdgeos> and it should work again
[12:31] <tsdgeos> but you will lose the security fix that the upgrade is supposed to do :_D
[12:31] <marek_> hello
[12:31] <chakie_work> tsdgeos: that doesn't worry us too much. we're firewalled off the net
[12:32] <tsdgeos> marek_: hi
[12:32] <jakee> hi -- i'm having a lot of trouble; suddenly i can't log in at all.  whenever i type in my username and password i just get a black screen for a moment and then it comes back to kdm
[12:32] <tsdgeos> chakie_work: then it should be fine
[12:32] <jakee> there's nothing i can see in /var/log/kdm.0.log -- any ideas?
[12:32] <chakie_work> tsdgeos: would you happen to know what i could rtfm in order to find previous versions?
[12:32] <marek_> x is broken?
[12:32] <jakee> kdm doesn't use x to display?
[12:33] <chakie_work> jakee: i had that too a while ago. but i don't remember what it was...
[12:33] <marek_> i had (with debian) after i logged in, it displayed an error, and i was at a console..
[12:33] <tsdgeos> chakie_work: http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/cupsys/
[12:34] <tsdgeos> cupsys_1.2.0-0ubuntu5_i386.deb <-- this is the original
[12:34] <chakie_work> tsdgeos: ah, thanks
[12:34] <tsdgeos> i don't know much about if apt will let you install an older version though
[12:34] <tsdgeos> i'm quite new to apt based systems
[12:34] <chakie_work> i think it can be done
[12:34] <jakee> marek_ - yeah i wish there was an error!  but i don't get any feedback about what's going wrong; nothing in the log files either
[12:36] <tsdgeos> jakee: something in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[12:36] <marek_> well... im new to kubuntu, been an Ubuntu user since 5.10...
[12:36] <marek_> so i have tiny problems like, how i can edit my SU password... :S
[12:36] <XVampireX> Hi
[12:37] <XVampireX> Anyone here running equivalent of Geforce FX 5200?
[12:37] <tsdgeos> marek_: you can not
[12:37] <tsdgeos> there is no su password in ubuntu
[12:37] <jakee> tsdgeos - that file is blank!
[12:38] <tsdgeos> jakee: ok, so that did not help either ;-/
[12:38] <chakie_work> damn, i've seen that problem, it's something simple that has to be done
[12:39] <marek_> tsdgeos: well, in Ubuntu, you go to user accounts, choose "Show all" and you have like 30 accounts, 1 of them is root
[12:39] <chakie_work> last time i saw it was a few weeks ago, my wife told me what to do. one command. something had to be started/stopped/nuked or similar
[12:39] <jakee> ok i just noticed another weird thing which is that df is reporting that i have 0K available and it doesn't change even when i delete stuff
[12:40] <jakee> does this sound familiar to anyone?
[12:40] <chakie_work> maybe it was that i hadn't mounted up /home
[12:40] <marek_> .
[12:41] <tOnK> yop yop
[12:41] <marek_> .
[12:41] <chakie_work> yeah, i did a "mount -a" as the boot for some reason didn't mount any NFS drives
[12:41] <ninHer> hi all
[12:42] <chakie_work> jakee: a full disk will probably make the login fail
[12:42] <jakee> chakie_work - yeah i think that may have been it :|
[12:42] <marek_> ninHer: Hi
[12:43] <ninHer> hi marek_
[12:44] <jakee> yeah that login problem was because of disk space -- thx yawl
[12:44] <jakee> \quit
[12:44] <Hyperknuck> hi, changed my name :p (my game nick)
[12:44] <Hyperknuck> (btw im marek... :P)
[12:44] <tsdgeos> Hyperknuck: you can use "/nick foo", no need to relogin
[12:45] <Hyperknuck> tsdgeos: :p lol thanx
[12:53] <Hyperknuck> not really a lot of chatting here :P
[12:54] <[Scak-AFK] > I'm baaaaaaaack!
[12:56] <XVampireX> Anyone here running Geforce FX 5200 equivalents?
[12:56] <Tm_T> 5700 here
[12:56] <XVampireX> That's not an equivalent :P
[12:56] <Tm_T> well, it depends
[12:57] <Tm_T> both are nvidia ;)
[12:57] <XVampireX> I need to see if it's just me... kinda getting a lower score on glxgears... even lower than ATI Radeon 9000 Pro
[12:57] <Tm_T> glxgears is not benchmark
[12:57] <Tm_T> try some game instead, like ET
[12:57] <XVampireX> Well, I gotta fix the source of my PSX Emulation problem, too.
[12:58] <Tm_T> set equiv configs and look if framerate is different
[12:58] <XVampireX> Where?
[12:58] <Tm_T> 13:57 < Tm_T> try some game instead, like ET
[12:58] <XVampireX> Ah
[12:58] <Emess> fucking winblows not working right...
[12:59] <XVampireX> Ah, you're on same time zone :P
[12:59] <Emess> really need to get my sister to let me put nix on her box
[12:59] <Scak> I've been trying to switch my brother forever now, he refuses.
[01:00] <Emess> my littlke sister didnt refuse
[01:00] <Emess> she uses Debian Woody tho
[01:00] <Scak> ah
[01:02] <Emess> well i use DesktopBSD at work :P
[01:03] <Scak> how's that working out?
[01:03] <Scak> I've been thinking about giving gentoo a try
[01:04] <todd> Hmm.
[01:04] <Emess> EWWWWWWWWWWW GENTOO!
[01:04] <chakie_work> hm, downgrading cupsys was an excellent lesson in frustration
[01:04] <todd> Does Kubuntu have gnome installed too?
[01:04] <Emess> OpenBSD is nice on servers, but slackware is mroe fun
[01:04] <Tm_T> todd: not by default
[01:04] <todd> thought I saw XFCE .. err
[01:04] <todd> whatever its called.
[01:04] <todd> Ah. Hmm. So if I installed Gnome... think that would make things unreliable?
[01:04] <Tm_T> nope
[01:05] <Scak> emess, that's what I think, but a friend has been pushing me to give it a try
[01:05] <todd> You use KDE, or Gnome more?
[01:05] <Emess> nah, if you want a hardcore distro use solaris or something
[01:05] <Emess> KDE for me, IceWM occasionally
[01:05] <Scak> KDE here, always
[01:05] <Scak> never been a fan of gnome
[01:05] <Emess> same
[01:05] <todd> I liked gnome at first
[01:06] <Tm_T> KDE, Windowmaker and PekWM
[01:06] <todd> but got annoyed at the lack of ways to display files in the file manager
[01:06] <todd> and window behaviour ... have more control in kde
[01:06] <Emess> lol chatzilla
[01:06] <xxenon> hi. I upgraded to KDE 3.5.4, but now all my fonts are aliased. Known problem ?
[01:07] <Tm_T> xxenon: might be, doublecheck settings
[01:07] <Emess> probably
[01:07] <Tm_T> I didn't notice any difference
[01:07] <todd> How do I check in the terminal, what version of KDE I have?
[01:07] <todd> What's the command...?
[01:07] <Scak> mine's were fine after the upgrade.
[01:07] <Emess> sweet,  jsut got ##windows to talk about nix :P
[01:07] <entropy> how hard would it be to move my desktop from dapper to edgy?
[01:08] <Tm_T> entropy: not hard, not wise
[01:08] <Emess> entropy: just add teh edgy stuff to your apt-get sources and do apt-get upgrade
[01:08] <Emess> but i wouldnt recommend it
[01:08] <Tm_T> todd: well, "konsole --version" for example
[01:08] <entropy> ok, that's what i thought
[01:08] <Tm_T> entropy: it's not stable, as you can imagine, it's devel anyway
[01:08] <entropy> i have problems with qt4 dev library in dapper, i can't work
[01:08] <entropy> i need edgy
[01:09] <entropy> dappers libqt4-dev has not been updated since may and it's missing files
[01:09] <entropy> it's unusable
[01:09] <todd> oh, just kde --version
[01:09] <todd> ?
[01:09] <Emess> ok, i challenge someone to get iDJc working in Dapper
[01:09] <todd> ok figured it out.
[01:09] <todd> thanks.
[01:10] <todd> I have KDE 3.5.3 ... hmm.
[01:10] <Tm_T> entropy: well, qt4 afaik is borked in edgy too
[01:10] <entropy> Tm_T: really?
[01:10] <Tm_T> entropy: well, that's what it was week or two ago
[01:10] <entropy> oh ffs
[01:10] <Tm_T> compile it yourself
[01:11] <Emess> its a bitch to do
[01:11] <chakie_work> oh, i think the unsupported KDE 3.5.4 upgrade broke cups
[01:11] <Tm_T> it's not
[01:11] <todd> Hmm.
[01:11] <Tm_T> that reminds me, time to build kde4 first time this week :)
[01:11] <todd> If I've learned one thing by using linux the past couple weeks... its to not use beta software lol.
[01:11] <Scak> todd, very smart assestment
[01:12] <todd> lol ive learned after 3 broken installs
[01:12] <Tm_T> todd: heh, well, beta is beta, it's not meant to everyday use
[01:12] <todd> yea that is true
[01:12] <Tm_T> that's why I use much beta, alpha, or even pre-alpha stuff
[01:12] <todd> ... i am hoping that there is better ATI support in the future
[01:12] <todd> driver support
[01:12] <Scak> we're all hoping that
[01:12] <todd> so xgl and all that work good.
[01:12] <Scak> same goes for nvidia
[01:12] <Tm_T> so end users could have usable apps some day ;)
[01:12] <todd> It's annoying.. i have a crappy ati from ... the dawn of time lol.
[01:13] <todd> Wow. This is sad, I have been up all night.
[01:13] <todd> ... 7am now lol
[01:13] <Scak> yup
[01:13] <todd> Been setting up friends Kubuntu install.
[01:13] <chakie_work> fsck, i can't seem to downgrade cups to 1.2.0. so, it's either have working printing and a broken system or broken printing and a working system
[01:14] <chakie_work> luckily our osx machines at home work fine for both
[01:14] <Scak> I've been trying to get xgl/compiz to work on a friend's pc, but it keeps crapping out
[01:14] <jan1024188> hi
[01:14] <todd> Well the XGL ... Kororaa live cd worked fine on this.
[01:14] <todd> And its a compaq ... so lol that says a lot.
[01:14] <Scak> haha
[01:14] <ninHer> hi all
[01:14] <Scak> hello ninHer
[01:14] <todd> The stupid thing wont even boot on my sony vaio laptop though lol
[01:14] <todd> its the ati drivers.
[01:15] <ninHer> hi Scak
[01:15] <Scak> gotta love ati
[01:15] <todd> yea, always thought they were better.
[01:15] <todd> ... until it came to open source drivers
[01:15] <todd> lack thereof.
[01:27] <JimmyJo22> Hallo zusammen
[01:27] <JimmyJo22> habe mal eine Frage gibts in einer anderen repo vielleicht einen neueren kernel als den 2.6.15-26 K7?
[01:27] <Tm_T> !de
[01:27] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:27] <imbrandon> !de
[01:27] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:27] <Tm_T> please use english here
[01:28] <Tm_T> imbrandon: you don't have to repeat everything I say or do
[01:28] <imbrandon> bah
[01:28] <Tm_T> imbrandon: I know I'm natural leader, but still
[01:28] <Tm_T> ;)
[01:28] <imbrandon> heh
[01:29] <todd> What would be the best way to install Gnome ... through Kubuntu (in kde)    .... apt-get in the terminal?
[01:29] <todd> Or adept...
[01:29] <imbrandon> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:29] <todd> Doesnt need su or sudo ?
[01:29] <imbrandon> sudo yes
[01:29] <todd> and it takes care of all dependenies?
[01:30] <imbrandon> yup
[01:30] <Tm_T> yes
[01:30] <todd> alright going to do that.
[01:30] <todd> I need Fluxbox too while I am at it.
[01:30] <todd> sudo apt-get install fluxbox      right?
[01:31] <Tm_T> yup
[01:31] <todd> lol already did it
[01:31] <todd> defeated the point in asking, but ... i dunno
[01:31] <todd> lack of sleep
[01:32] <todd> argh
[01:32] <todd> cant find the package.
[01:33] <todd> I typed that in
[01:33] <todd> and got, Reading package lists... Done
[01:33] <todd> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:34] <todd> E: Couldn't find package gnome-desktop
[01:34] <todd> Hmm......
[01:34] <Emess> package isnt called fluxbox, look in trhe ubuntu repo or adept for its proper name
[01:34] <todd> What's repo mean?
[01:34] <Jucato> repo = repository
[01:35] <todd> Is that a webpage? Like, a list of sources where you can apt-get stuff from? Servers ...?
[01:35] <Jucato> todd: it's a database (repository) of all available packages in Ubuntu
[01:35] <Jucato> !info fluxbox
[01:35] <ubotu> fluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.14-2 (dapper), package size 720 kB, installed size 2288 kB
[01:35] <todd> !info pizza
[01:35] <ubotu> Package pizza does not exist in dapper
[01:35] <Jucato> lol
[01:35] <todd> ...lol woo a robo ... irc ..bot.
[01:36] <todd> !gnome-desktop
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome-desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <Jucato> !info gnome-desktop
[01:36] <ubotu> Package gnome-desktop does not exist in dapper
[01:36] <todd> !info Gnome
[01:36] <ubotu> Package Gnome does not exist in dapper
[01:36] <todd> !info Gnome-Desktop
[01:36] <ubotu> Package Gnome-Desktop does not exist in dapper
[01:36] <Jucato> er...
[01:36] <todd> !info Gnome-desktop
[01:36] <ubotu> Package Gnome-desktop does not exist in dapper
[01:36] <todd> !info Gnome-PIZZA
[01:36] <ubotu> Package Gnome-PIZZA does not exist in dapper
[01:37] <todd> ... i give up.
[01:37] <Jucato> apt-cache search "gnome-desktop" is more accurate
[01:38] <Jucato> does anyone know which package installs the kcmgtk KControl module (GTK Styles and Fonts)?
[01:40] <D> Jucato, try apt-file search kcmgtk
[01:40] <todd> argh
[01:40] <todd> cannt find flubox
[01:41] <Jucato> try fluxbox...
[01:41] <todd> I ... need to go to sleep.
[01:41] <todd> Cuz, I installed it like 3 nights ago onanother ubuntu machine
[01:41] <todd> but kde ..and lack of sleep throwing me off, heh think ill look at it later.
[01:41] <todd> well, peace out everyone.
[01:41] <Emess> todd hangon a sec
[01:41] <todd> k
[01:41] <Emess> gimme a minute il fidn it for you
[01:42] <Jucato> fluxbox is in the universe repos
[01:42] <todd> ah, thanks...
[01:42] <todd> Yea, I just went into adept, and went to manage repositories
[01:42] <todd> and enabled everything I saw.
[01:42] <todd> But, I must have missed something.
[01:42] <Jucato> did you click "Apply" then "Fetch Updates" after you enabled everything?
[01:43] <todd> ... just now did. I cant remember if I did or not lol prob didnt.
[01:43] <todd> bout to search for itagain
[01:43] <todd> Ok, its waiting for the headers to download...
[01:43] <Jucato> todd: check if this line is enabled "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe" where xx stands for your local server
[01:43] <todd> local server?
[01:44] <todd> oh, like
[01:44] <todd> us.ubuntu.com ect?
[01:44] <Jucato> yeah
[01:44] <todd> this is enabled : http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[01:44] <todd> and its main restricted
[01:44] <Jucato> todd, no. the one with universe at the end
[01:45] <Jucato> the line that looks like --> "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe"
[01:45] <todd> ah, well I think I enabled EVERYTHING in that list though.
[01:45] <todd> ... redownloading the headers.
[01:45] <todd> its...updating more this time the second time i fetched the updates.
[01:45] <jan1024188> hi
[01:46] <todd> Ok, it showed up this time.
[01:46] <jan1024188> how to open KDE main menu with keyboard
[01:46] <todd> I see fluxbox, nowlol.
[01:46] <Jucato> jan1024188: Alt+F1
[01:46] <todd> Guess i was rushing it
[01:46] <jan1024188> thanks
[01:46] <jan1024188> thanks a lot
[01:46] <todd> Installing fluxbox now.
[01:47] <Jucato> ehehe! good luck and have fun! :-D
[01:47] <Jucato> Dustman: thanks for the tip! can't believe I missed that :-D
[01:47] <Jucato> err....wrong person...
[01:48] <todd> waiting for headers STILL
[01:48] <todd> dont think its budginglol
[01:49] <todd> Idontneed deb-src repos do i/
[01:49] <todd> ?
[01:50] <Jucato> todd: yep, you don't need them. best to leave them disabled until you do
[01:50] <todd> Is it for ... compiling stuff by source?
[01:51] <Jucato> todd: it's for downloading the source code of the packages from the "deb" repositories
[01:51] <todd> oh ok. kind of what i figured .. wasnt sure how it worked.
[01:53] <Emess> lol, you didnt have uni/multiverse?
[01:56] <todd> Is there a system restore deal on here?
[01:56] <todd> I intend on messing with some "very alpha" software.
[01:56] <todd> Which is very likely to break install. Or graphics ... display.
[01:56] <todd> ... there someway I can create ... i dunno.
[01:57] <todd> ... what does the repair system option do on the boot menu?
[01:57] <Jucato> none that I know of
[01:57] <todd> Seems like there is no way to protect my system.
[01:57] <Emess> its command line login with root powers
[01:58] <Emess> lets you edit X and stuff if it brekas and you cant boot gui
[01:58] <todd> I want to tinker with it but.... if it breaks I dont want to have to reinstall the OS again.
[01:58] <todd> yea, thats waht happened last time i couldnt boot into te Gui
[01:58] <todd> cuz i was messing with XGL. tried the automatic installer which didnt work cuz if bad graphic drivers
[01:59] <todd> So I was thinking there has to be something I can do to backup system files and if GUI or something crashes... won't ... restore disc help ? Or. I have no idea how I'd go about doing something liek that.
[02:02] <Emess> theres a backup program somewhere
[02:02] <Emess> KMenu --> System --> Keep (Backup Utility)
[02:18] <eamon_> I'm experiencing a problem in Amarok where some tracks never increase their play counts no matter how many times I play them.
[02:18] <eamon_> I have version 1.4.1
[02:18] <eamon_> And I'm using the SQLite db
[02:18] <eamon_> Does anybody know how to solve this problem?
[02:18] <todd> argh, anyone know what this means? ** (process:12031): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[02:19] <todd> It keeps repeating the same error in the terminal
[02:19] <todd> while doing apt-get install of gnome-desktop.
[02:19] <todd> Its installing stuff, but keeps saying that every few seconds.
[02:20] <Emess> eamon: no idea, but try asking in #amarok
[02:20] <eamon_> Emess: I did but noone replied :(
[02:20] <Emess> try one of the other amarok chans, time zones make teh normal one kinda quiet
[02:21] <Emess> but hang around for a bit and someone will answer
[02:21] <oldwulf> Morning everyone
[02:21] <todd> morn.
[02:22] <oldwulf> Anything new and exciting going on?
[02:22] <haider> hi
[02:22] <todd> Maybe.
[02:22] <todd> Know what this means?
[02:22] <todd> ** (process:12031): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[02:23] <haider> ny one know how to install yahoo here>
[02:23] <Emess> yahoo?
[02:23] <Emess> liek teh messenger?
[02:23] <haider> yahoo messenger
[02:24] <haider> yap
[02:24] <Emess> KMenu -- Internet --> Kopete
[02:24] <eamon_> Emess: What other amarok chans?
[02:25] <Emess> there are ones for different languages and tiems
[02:25] <Emess> try /list to get a list of chans
[02:25] <oldwulf> Todd:  When are you getting that?
[02:26] <todd> oldwulf - I did apt-get install of gnome-desktop
[02:26] <todd> ...should have done ubuntu-desktop
[02:26] <todd> and it kept spitting out errors like that
[02:28] <oldwulf> todd: Do you have mplayer installed?
[02:30] <Emess> eww mplayer piece of shit motherfucker...
[02:30] <oldwulf> yeah but it might be causing an issue with his gnome install.  all the deps that gnome requires and if he has a corrupt .desktop file it will flake out like that
[02:31] <MilhousePunkRock> !language > Emess
[02:31] <todd> I thikn so how do I find out?
[02:31] <todd> ..wait
[02:31] <todd> no i do.
[02:31] <oldwulf> todd:  do you know which file it was installing when it started spewing the errors.
[02:31] <todd> Was thinking it was ... something else.
[02:31] <todd> no but havent closed out the terminal yet
[02:31] <oldwulf> copy that.  hm..
[02:32] <oldwulf> I don't mess much with gnome
[02:32] <todd> It happened right after it said it was setting up stuff.
[02:33] <todd> well, someone else told me that apt/synaptic was pretty smart
[02:33] <todd> and just to install ubuntu-desktop
[02:33] <Riddell> Emess: language
[02:33] <todd> even though I already did gnome-desktop
[02:33] <todd> said it should be smart enough to fix it.. but i dunno
[02:33] <todd> guess we will see
[02:34] <Emess> sorry bout that milhouse
[02:35] <Emess>  /regex-rep mplayer; VLC
[02:35] <Emess> erm...lol
[02:35] <oldwulf> nice emess.  but I don't think that is his problem.
[02:35] <Emess> i know
[02:35] <oldwulf> :)
[02:35] <Emess> but everyimte someone mentions mplayer i forget to be nice
[02:35] <todd> Hmm.
[02:36] <todd> mplayer the cause for many probs i take ti
[02:36] <oldwulf> todd:  you are installing the ubuntu-desktop over top of kubuntu?
[02:36] <oldwulf> mplayer doesn't play nice. :)
[02:36] <todd> Yea, wanted to have Kubuntu ... (KDE for frend ...who is used to Windows)
[02:36] <todd> and I am installing Gnome and Fluxbox and Enlightenment on here
[02:37] <todd> ... just to see which ones i like better.
[02:37] <waspius> hello..i have just managed to enter the net with kubuntu can someone please tell me what reprosities i need to add for updates etc?
[02:37] <todd> I am stil getting those error message though..............
[02:38] <waspius> plus i do not seem to get any packages in adept
[02:38] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.4
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde3.5.4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:38] <Hobbsee> waspius: see kubuntu.org
[02:38] <Hobbsee> !repos
[02:38] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:38] <oldwulf> can you send me your terminal output?  wulfpakconsulting@gmail.com
[02:39] <serzholino> does anyone has problems with gtk-qt-engine?
[02:39] <todd> Setting up serpentine (0.6.91-0ubuntu3) ...
[02:39] <todd> ** (process:15607): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[02:39] <todd> hmm. it is done installing now but theres dozens of those type errors.
[02:39] <waspius> do you know why i cannot see any packages in adept??only the ones installed
[02:39] <serzholino> for me breezy's version was much more better in its job
[02:40] <Emess> waspius: open adept and get the sources lsit,t ehn uncomment the universe and multiverse lines
[02:40] <waspius> ok thanx
[02:42] <todd> I have terminal printout, saved it to txt file.
[02:43] <todd> Goingto check to see if my other WM work ..then ill be back
[02:43] <todd> wish me luck
[02:43] <Jucato> good luck :-D
[02:43] <oldwulf> good luck
[02:44] <todd> thanks
[02:49] <todd> lol gnome works
[02:49] <todd> have KDE and Gnome running at once
[02:49] <todd> going to load up fluxbox too
[02:49] <serzholino> todd: why not?
[02:49] <todd> see how much crpa i can start before this thing starts smoking
[02:49] <todd> lol
[02:49] <Jucato> lol
[02:50] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone
[02:50] <Jucato> hi
[02:50] <MilhousePunkRock> Does someone know how to fix this X warning: Warning: Cannot convert string "-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*" to type FontStruct
[02:51] <todd> wow. fluxbox started fast. so. so... BASIC looking.
[02:51] <Chousuke> fluxbox is cool.
[02:51] <todd> Yea, I heard. That's why I got it.
[02:51] <Chousuke> it has a lot of features too. it may look "basic" because it's just a window manager, and not a desktop environment like Gnome and KDE. :)
[02:52] <waspius> Emess: they are uncommented
[02:52] <Jucato> fluxbox can be run alone, or on top of KDE/GNOME, which is usually what happens in our case (installing fluxbox from the repos)
[02:53] <todd> lol I have a xvid movie playing in gnome ... in another session
[02:53] <todd> heh
[02:53] <Chousuke> on top of a DE? hmm.
[02:53] <todd> DE? whats that?
[02:53] <Chousuke> I usually just run fluxbox and then run gnome or KDE or Gnome apps on it.
[02:53] <Chousuke> desktop environment.
[02:53] <todd> And you can run fluxbox on TOP of kde/gnome?
[02:53] <Jucato> DE = Desktop Environment
[02:53] <todd> ah.
[02:54] <Chousuke> todd: well, I suppose you can replace the WM in either DE, but I don't know how well it'd work.
[02:54] <Chousuke> (wm = window manager)
[02:55] <brush01uk> new user to day ,help please  Greetings All
[02:55] <todd> Just ... run command fluxbox while in KDE? for example?
[02:56] <Jucato> todd: when you're about to login to KDE, you have a choice of which Session to log into. When you install fluxbox, a fluxbox session is added.
[02:57] <todd> Yea that is how I got KDE, Gnome, and Fluxbox working at the same time
[02:57] <todd> im switching between them by using control-F7 and control F8 ect
[02:57] <Jucato> :-D
[02:57] <todd> err control-alt i meant lol
[02:59] <thoreauputic> todd: if you want to do the funky fluxbox in KDE thing you need Xnest
[02:59] <thoreauputic> you can run it in an Xnest window
[03:00] <thoreauputic> although why you'd want to is another question of course...
[03:01] <todd> I dont think I do.
[03:01] <thoreauputic> :)
[03:01] <todd> Don't think I even have a need for fluxbox.
[03:01] <thoreauputic> boo, hiss
[03:01] <todd> Other than.... if I needed more resources.
[03:01] <thoreauputic> :P
[03:01] <todd> But eh,  ....lol whats that for.
[03:01] <todd> did i pass? LOL
[03:02] <thoreauputic> heh - a fluxbox heretic! Burn him!
[03:02] <todd> bah!
[03:02] <todd> utorrent is working pretty well
[03:02] <todd> under wine
[03:02] <todd> suprised.
[03:03] <thoreauputic> don't you like linux bt clients?
[03:04] <Emess> ktorrent is grea tisnt it?
[03:04] <Jucato> yeah! and it's getting better and better
[03:04] <todd> I hate ktorrent.
[03:04] <MetaMorfoziS> azureus?
[03:04] <todd> Because everytime I used it
[03:04] <Jucato> I would have liked Azureus if not for Java...
[03:04] <todd> It kept stalling. Then Azureus, went nuts about something. Wouldnt read the files.
[03:04] <thoreauputic> todd: it stopped at 99 % ?
[03:04] <todd> yea, the java makes it unstable.
[03:05] <thoreauputic> no it doesn't
[03:05] <todd> thoreauputic:  well, some things downloaded all the way, others stoppd halfway, just depended.
[03:05] <todd> They ALL had enough seeders/leechers.
[03:05] <thoreauputic> todd: configuration issue
[03:05] <todd> azureus said something about read input/output
[03:05] <thoreauputic> todd: read the azureus FAQ
[03:06] <Jucato> todd: KTorrent usually stalls around 99.xx%. I'm not sure why. I'm presuming it has something to do with your upload ratio...
[03:06] <todd> yea. i just ... said heck with it
[03:06] <todd> and started using uTorrent
[03:06] <todd> what i am used to using anyways.
[03:06] <thoreauputic> todd:  http://azureus.sourceforge.net/faq.php
[03:07] <todd> looking now
[03:07] <thoreauputic> and even more informative: http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Main_Page
[03:08] <todd> I'll  bookmark them in case i want to get it working
[03:08] <todd> thanks
[03:08] <todd> ... want to get xgl working lol
[03:09] <thoreauputic> todd: works well here - I get 700KB-1.2 MB/s in good torrents with Azureus
[03:10] <thoreauputic> I notice a lot of ktorrent users stuck on 99% - I suspect they have their client set up wrong
[03:10] <Jucato> thoreauputic: care to enlighten me please?
[03:10] <dbglt> any ubuntu packages for ktorrent2?
[03:10] <dbglt> ahhh nm
[03:10] <dbglt> one on the website :)
[03:10] <Jucato> :-D
[03:10] <thoreauputic> Jucato: I read about it - hang on I'll have a look
[03:11] <Jucato> thoreauputic: thanks. I thought that it was a sort of feature they put  in to make sure that you upload a certain amount
[03:13] <thoreauputic> Jucato: sounds like it's a NAT issue  - see http://forum2.youceff.com/showthread.php?t=5188 (scroll down a bit)
[03:15] <thoreauputic> also re: 99% issue - http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Torrents_stop_at_99_percent
[03:16] <todd> heh
[03:16] <todd> i am in two places at once .... aaaand i need sleep lol
[03:17] <Jucato> thanks thoreauputic. I'll look into it
[03:17] <thoreauputic> yw :)
[03:17] <herman> afternoon all
[03:18] <foot> can someone tell me why some things are automatically red when pasted into pastebin?
[03:18] <Jucato> thoreauputic: Hmm.. I don't think I have that DMZ thing.. I don't even know what it is :-D
[03:19] <herman> lol @ Jucato...most routers have a DMZ setting. it sets your router open to anything so not very safe anyway
[03:19] <thoreauputic> Jucato: it's when you have all ports forwarded to one box on the network ( ie that box is exposed to the internet unless it has a firewall)
[03:19] <Jucato> um... ok... networks.. internet... @_@
[03:20] <thoreauputic> herman: it's safe as long as you have the box firewalled except for the needed services etc
[03:20] <herman> true true but why use DMZ anyway?
[03:20] <thoreauputic> herman: for instance you might run an apache server in the DMZ
[03:20] <geiseri> Riddell: ping
[03:21] <thoreauputic> herman: keeps the servers out of the "safe" internal network
[03:21] <Jucato> thoreauputic: when KTorrent stalls at 99%, it usually continues 1) after some period of time or 2) after a restart or 3) discontinuing the download then importing the partially finished download...
[03:21] <herman> ah ok yuo that didn't cross my mind
[03:21] <Marki> if i mainly use firefox, amarok, amsn and the gimp should i change to kde from gnome?
[03:22] <thoreauputic> Jucato: interesting - it might actually be a bug, I don't know - have you checked on lunchpad.net or upstream ( KDE)
[03:22] <thoreauputic> ?
[03:22] <geiseri> Riddell: i have a demo machine for LWE here with kubuntu, but I will have another machine at LWE that may or may not have a network connection
[03:22] <Jucato> thoreauputic: nope, not yet. I'm waiting for release 2.0. it might have been fixed
[03:22] <thoreauputic> Marki: not unless you want to try KDE :)
[03:22] <geiseri> Riddell: is there a way to dump a dvd of the packages that i want to install on the other machine?
[03:22] <thoreauputic> umm I meant launchpad.net of course
[03:23] <thoreauputic> although I kind of like the sound of "lunchpad" ;P
[03:23] <Jucato> hehehe... hungry? :-D
[03:23] <thoreauputic> Jucato: midnight snack time :)
[03:23] <thoreauputic> Mon Aug 14 23:23:34 EST 2006
[03:23] <thoreauputic> ;)
[03:24] <Jucato> oh. it's around 9:30 PM here.. (philippines)
[03:24] <x_O> arrrgh cant figure out how to install this gnome theme
[03:24] <Marki> oops
[03:24] <x_O> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=24229
[03:24] <Marki> sorry guys i did shift-backspace
[03:24] <pk0nink> hah its only 6:30 am here
[03:24] <x_O> Can't figure out what to do.. argh.
[03:24] <tsdgeos> x_O: that's kubuntu channel you know ;-)
[03:24] <Marki> so basically i'm afraid of changing the XGL settings to use KDE
[03:24] <thoreauputic> Jucato: Australia ( East Coast)
[03:25] <x_O> ... err yea let me hope in other room
[03:25] <Jucato> thoreauputic: oh! that explains it. EST could also stand for US Eastern Standard Time
[03:25] <thoreauputic> Jucato: yeah, the Yanks think they own it ;)
[03:25] <thoreauputic> Jucato: I've had them tell me my time zone was wrong ;)
[03:25] <Pupeno> my wife is doing some work in which she pastes lot's of text from mails and other places, most of the on UTF-8 and pastes it on lyx, but Lyx uses Latin-1, so she ends up with a lot of weird characters. Any ideas how to solve the problem ? something that is agile ?
[03:25] <Marki> so would it be faster for me to run amarok in KDE ?
[03:26] <thoreauputic> Marki: faster to start the first run, otherwise not much diff
[03:26] <thoreauputic> Marki: it loads some KDE libraries
[03:26] <Marki> ok,
[03:26] <Marki> but once i got one kde programme running there's no difference anymore=?
[03:27] <thoreauputic> Marki: not much in general - KDE apps run fine in Gnome
[03:27] <thoreauputic> ad vice versa of course
[03:28] <Riddell> geiseri: it's not quite a dump but you can remaster CDs fairly easily
[03:28] <Marki> ok so if my only personal reason to change is because amsn looks better in KDE would it be worth the work to get XGL workin' on it?
[03:28] <Riddell> (or DVDs)
[03:28] <thoreauputic> Marki: if you have disc space it's always fun to try out a different desktop though
[03:28] <Riddell> geiseri: http://www.atworkonline.it/~bibe/ubuntu/custom-livecd.htm
[03:29] <thoreauputic> Marki: no idea about XGL, sorry
[03:29] <Marki> ok, no problem
[03:29] <geiseri> Riddell: and this live CD would have the ability to install itself on a host machine?
[03:30] <geiseri> Riddell: thats the important point i guess
[03:30] <mikki> .
[03:31] <mikki> how do play .avi files ??
[03:32] <Marki> ok again -_-
[03:32] <Marki> i definetely need an xgl channel
[03:32] <herman> @mikki thaz a matter of installing the proper codecs and players/plugins
[03:32] <Marki> cool that worked ^^
[03:32] <mikki> where can i find the codecs ?
[03:33] <herman> do you have the w32codecs installed?
[03:33] <mikki> dont know
[03:33] <Riddell> geiseri: yes, our live CD == our install CD
[03:34] <herman> @mikki hang on will have a look
[03:34] <geiseri> Riddell: okay, ill give it a whirl
[03:34] <geiseri> Riddell: thx
[03:34] <tsdgeos> Riddell: btw the other day we tried the install CD on a new dell machine at work and was a complete failure, it could not even boot X :-/
[03:34] <herman> or maybe Riddell knows it by heart since he knows everything lol
[03:34] <Riddell> !w32codecs
[03:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:35] <Riddell> tsdgeos: erk
[03:35] <herman> there ya go
[03:35] <mikki> thx
[03:35] <tsdgeos> Riddell: well, basically the issue was the installer/booter something is not able to work with the new ati cards and instead of defaulting to vesa (htat works) simply gave us a black screen
[03:39] <mikki> how  do i logon root in the terminal ? :P
[03:40] <herman> @miki use sudo and then the command
[03:40] <herman> i.e. sudo apt-get etc
[03:40] <mikki> i got this message: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Aug 14 22:39:16 2006
[03:41] <mikki> what does that mean?
[03:41] <tsdgeos> something fishy happens with your clock :_D
[03:42] <mikki> how can i fix that  ?
[03:42] <geiseri> Riddell: okay, this looks spot on
[03:42] <geiseri> Riddell: thx
[03:44] <mikki> anybody? sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Aug 14 22:39:16 2006
[03:44] <djclue917> mikki: have you adjusted you clock?
[03:45] <mikki> yes it dont show  Aug 14 22:39:16 2006 but Aug 14 15:45
[03:46] <Jucato> I have a slight problem: whenever Kopete plays a sound notification, my system stalls for a second or two... any  possible solution, other than turning sound notifications off? :-D
[03:49] <mikki> is it possible to login as root, and not use the sudo command ?
[03:49] <Hagbard_Ub> Hi all!
[03:49] <Jucato> mikki: not graphically
[03:49] <Hagbard_Ub> What's the package name for Knotify ?
[03:49] <oldwulf> mikki: su -
[03:50] <Jucato> oldwulf: that won't work since there's no root user
[03:50] <foot> why would my media manager not be running?
[03:50] <MuJ> sudo su
[03:50] <oldwulf> Jucato: funny it works fine for me. :)
[03:51] <Jucato> oldwulf: then you must have set a password for root
[03:51] <oldwulf> Jucato: yep... sudo passwd root
[03:51] <zipper__> well, you could also just do a sudo /bin/sh
[03:51] <Jucato> "sudo -i" is a bit easier, though
[03:51] <zipper__> should grant you a root shell
[03:52] <Jucato> Hagbard_Ub: I think KNotify is part of the kdelibs package
[03:52] <mikki> everytime i use sudo i get that the timestamp is to far in the future!!! :(
[03:52] <Hagbard_Ub> Jucato, Ok
[03:52] <Jucato> I'm not 100% sure, though
[03:52] <Hagbard_Ub> Hey... One more thing... The text in Xchat is realy small.. and it's small on some other places too...
[03:53] <oldwulf> mikki: so you can't run sudo passwd root? or sudo /bin/sh?
[03:53] <Hagbard_Ub> Is there a way to set the DPI or something so I can see the text?
[03:53] <Jucato> ok, I'm having a bit of a problem with ALL sound notifications... every time a sound notification is about to be played, my system stalls for a second or two. anyonne have any ideas?
[03:56] <waspius> hi.i installed firefox and some games from adept...but i cannot see them in my menu bar..can anyone help
[03:56] <waspius> ??
[03:57] <Jucato> waspius: type this in Konsole:  "kbuildsycoca --incremental"
[03:57] <Jucato> that will update your K Menu
[03:57] <mikki> nope, but im goin to try a reboot
[03:57] <zipper__> Hagbard_Ub, yes. In the start of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf you'll find a list of the fonts being loaded to be used with x.
[03:57] <waspius> Jucato: it says error no database available
[03:57] <Jucato> waspius: that's ok. check your K Menu now
[03:57] <Hagbard_Ub> zipper__, Yeah.. What about it?
[03:58] <oldwulf> mikki: yes booting into recovery mode will allow you to set the root password and or set your date so sudo works.
[03:58] <oldwulf> mikki: good luck. ;-)
[03:58] <waspius> Jucato: nothing
[03:58] <Jucato> hmm...
[03:58] <djclue917> mikki: that's just a temporary problem...
[03:58] <Jucato> waspius: try just a plain "kbuildsycoca"
[03:59] <djclue917> sudo makes a timestamp the first time it is called that's why sudo can be used for some time until the time stamp "expires"
[03:59] <waspius> Jucato: ok that worked but only for firefox..the games are not there
[03:59] <zipper__> Hagbard_Ub, well, you could comment out the ones you dont want to use. Another option is to fiddle around with 'system settings' in kde
[03:59] <Jucato> hmm..
[04:00] <foot> anyone know the name of the media manager? mine is not started for some reason
[04:02] <waspius> Jucato: do u know the windows manager called xpde?
[04:02] <mikki> a reboot fixed my problem:)
[04:07] <waspius> anyone here use xpde?
[04:10] <MarsRouter> xpde or XPDF
[04:10] <Jucato> xpde, the desktop environment that looks like XP
[04:11] <Tm_T> sounds like a joke
[04:11] <J4t> On August 21st 2004, the XPde Team released XPde 0.5.1;  Current Release: 0.5.1 (BETA)  	
[04:11] <J4t> that one? :)
[04:11] <Jucato> it's not, actually
[04:11] <Tm_T> :p
[04:11] <Jucato> not a joke...
[04:11] <Tm_T> hmm, someone can go seriously to that?
[04:12] <Jucato> http://www.xpde.com/
[04:12] <Jucato> "A desktop environment(XPde) and a window manager(XPwm) for Linux. It tries to make easier for Windows XP users to use a Linux box."
[04:12] <zipper__> !kernel
[04:12] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:12] <Jucato> think "Linspire" taken to another level...
[04:12] <Tm_T> meh
[04:12] <Tm_T> well, someone likes it
[04:13] <MarsRouter> XP on Linuix seems a joke
[04:13] <Jucato> well, people use VMWare to run XP on Linux...
[04:13] <Jucato> Linspire looks a lot like XP
[04:13] <aliasfred> xpe is coded in pascal
[04:13] <Jucato> etc etc etc...
[04:13] <Tm_T> aliasfred: =)
[04:14] <Tm_T> aliasfred: you're serious?
[04:14] <aliasfred> at least to me this is a lot more a  joke that trying to looks like xp
[04:14] <aliasfred> http://www.xpde.com/shots/kylix.png <- Tm_T deduced from this screenshot entitled 'working on the project'
[04:14] <Tm_T> aliasfred: well, it must be somewhat humourrelated, halfserious atleast
[04:14] <Tm_T> I see.. :p
[04:14] <Tm_T> I used pascal in 90's
[04:15] <Tm_T> just to make nt4 workstations hangup
[04:15] <Tm_T> fun of schooldays or so
[04:15] <Sakireth> !themes
[04:15] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy
[04:20] <soulrider____> how long does it take for a new kernel to be available in the repos ?
[04:20] <Sakireth> where to find good kde themes?
[04:20] <Sakireth> good timing
[04:20] <Sakireth> XD
[04:20] <Jucato> http://www.kde-look.org
[04:20] <soulrider____> www.kde-look.org
[04:20] <soulrider____> ar
[04:20] <soulrider____> jucato beat me :P
[04:20] <Tm_T> soulrider____: well, that depends, next release usually
[04:20] <soulrider____> and i gotta fix my nick! O.O
[04:21] <Jucato> just by a few seconds :-D
[04:21] <Tm_T> soulrider____: current stable gets only fixes
[04:21] <soulrider____> :O really?
[04:21] <Tm_T> soulrider: well, we like to keep stable as stable, right?
[04:21] <Sakireth> and other sites? can't find much on kde-look..
[04:21] <Sakireth> looking at the theme manager section
[04:22] <soulrider> look on htemes/styles
[04:22] <soulrider> i dont know why
[04:22] <soulrider> but i never like other themes
[04:22] <soulrider> unless theya re REALLY good
[04:22] <soulrider> i allways sue the default one
[04:23] <fannagoganna> have you tried comix, soulrider?
[04:23] <soulrider> brb
[04:24] <fannagoganna> it's a pretty popular theme without being a plastik/keramik clone
[04:26] <fannagoganna> personally, i use the comix theme with crystal window decoration -- i think it looks pretty nice.
[04:27] <roman> huh
[04:27] <roman> hoe instaleer en kom je aan w32codecs
[04:28] <Jucato> Lately, I seem to like the Plastik styles/window decoration even more than the Lipstik/Crystal combo
[04:28] <intelikey> !w32codecs
[04:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:28] <roman> thanx
[04:28] <Tm_T> roman: sorry I don't speak dutch(?) but if I understood right, you need to look https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[04:29] <Tm_T> intelikey: bah, you're too young and fast
[04:29] <roman> i need to instal the w32codecs
[04:29] <Tm_T> roman: then check urls ubotu gave
[04:29] <intelikey> yeah bet you say that to everyone under 50
[04:29] <intelikey> :)
[04:30] <Tm_T> intelikey: I do ;)
[04:30] <roman> yeeeees it's working
[04:30] <tapas> i wonder about the live cd:
[04:30] <tapas> how is the live users home dir created?
[04:30] <tapas> i need to modify it slightly
[04:30] <roman> he is downloading now
[04:30] <tapas> just from /etc/skel/ ?
[04:31] <intelikey> tapas /etc/passwd
[04:32] <intelikey> or you mean for new accounts tapas ?
[04:32] <tapas> intelikey: i mean: when you boot the live cd
[04:32] <tapas> a user is created called ubuntu
[04:32] <tapas> i wonder how his home dir is created as i need to add some contents to the live users homedir
[04:33] <tapas> [i'm baking my own modified kubuntu live cd] 
[04:33] <soulrider> fannagoganna: do you have a link fro comix?
[04:33] <intelikey> adding content should be /etc/skel  yes
[04:33] <Jucato> tapas: the Live CD is like an image of an already existing user/system. the user "ubuntu" isn't created when you boot the Live CD. It's already there, including the home directory
[04:34] <tapas> Jucato: /mnt/new_system$ ls home/
[04:34] <tapas> /mnt/new_system$
[04:34] <tapas> ;)
[04:34] <intelikey> i thought you were asking what controled where $HOME was, sorry for the misread.
[04:34] <tapas> Jucato: it isn't
[04:34] <tapas> Jucato: it is created on the boot..
[04:34] <tapas> Jucato: the live cd even says explicitly "creatign live user"
[04:34] <Jucato> oh I didn't notice that. I stand correcte
[04:34] <Jucato> sorry
[04:34] <tapas> so, /etc/skel will probably have his .bashrc, etc..
[04:35] <intelikey> yep
[04:35] <tapas> but: There's also icons on his desktop and there's no Desktop in /etc/skel
[04:35] <tapas> so there must be a way to alter what shows on the live users desktop, too, in some way
[04:35] <intelikey> they are default kde setup   look into kde for that.
[04:36] <tapas> intelikey: you mean kde has some place where it stores the default setup for the users desktpo?
[04:36] <tapas> intelikey: 'cause it has an install button and an Examples folder [a hardlink] 
[04:37] <intelikey> yes tapas that's what i mean.
[04:38] <intelikey> maybe /etc/kde3/   maybe /usr/share/kde*  or even /usr/lib/kde   idk i never tried to find that info.
[04:39] <tapas> intelikey: ok, i'll have a look
[04:39] <tapas> i alsop suppose when the live cd is installed to the hd, the skeleton will look a little different
[04:40] <intelikey> tapas also of note the init scripts will be what initiates the creation of the new user account and might also add the link to install   there are many ways to arrive at the same point.     "all roads lead to linux"  :)
[04:40] <tapas> intelikey: true. will check the init script first. good point
[04:43] <intelikey> tapas my skel is still default "one of the only things that is"
[04:43] <intelikey> tty24 [root#~]  ls -A /etc/skel/
[04:43] <intelikey> .bash_logout  .bash_profile  .bashrc
[04:43] <tapas> /mnt/new_system/etc$ ls skel/ -A
[04:43] <tapas> .bash_logout  .bash_profile  .bashrc  Examples
[04:43] <intelikey> and that was installed from the live
[04:43] <tapas> that;s how it is on the live cd
[04:43] <tapas> where Examples is a hard link
[04:44] <intelikey> yeah treat hardlinks as copies in most cases.
[04:44] <tapas> brb
[04:44] <roman> jooooo
[04:44] <intelikey> what ?
[04:44] <roman> w32codecs are working fine :)
[04:44] <intelikey> oh hehhe ok.
[04:47] <intelikey> i think i'll build another kernel.   and see if 2.4 supports nvidia legacy
[04:48] <intelikey> unless someone can tell me outrightly if so
[04:48] <roman> when supports the ati driver in kubuntu 3d acceleration
[04:48] <roman> or vesa driver
[04:49] <intelikey> !ati
[04:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:50] <tapas> btw: is there any way to speed up the squasfs creation?
[04:50] <tapas> or maybe skip it and use an ext2 fs on a dvd rom?
[04:50] <tapas> [i'd have to buy a dvd burner first to make use of that anyways, but it might be worth it] 
[04:51] <aliasfred> ext2 is not designed for dvd
[04:51] <aliasfred> so it may work but as efficiently as an fs designed for dvd
[04:52] <tapas> aliasfred: makes sense..
[04:52] <tapas> aliasfred: so will squashfs with disabled copression be better suited?
[04:52] <aliasfred> i dunno :)
[04:52] <tapas> aliasfred: it's just that creating it takes ages on my poor 1.2ghz box
[04:52] <intelikey> should be faster created and read
[04:52] <aliasfred> but im sure ext2 has been made for harddrive, so with a widely different seek time :)
[04:53] <intelikey> but you didn't hear that from me.
[04:53] <tapas> hehe
[04:58] <waspius> i made a shortcut for my trash but for some reason it always shows it is full.any suggestions
[04:58] <intelikey> change the icon ?
[04:58] <tsdgeos> empty the trash?
[04:59] <waspius> if i change it to not full will it change when it is full?
[04:59] <intelikey> remove the shortcut ?
[04:59] <Kr4t05> I need a favor from someone here who ISN'T using XGL.
[04:59] <tsdgeos> Kr4t05: yes?
[04:59] <Kr4t05> tsdgeos: You're running KDE?
[05:00] <tsdgeos> yes
[05:00] <intelikey> there is an active icon for that    i think.    waspius  maybe not in the main icons  switch to system  or something.
[05:00] <Kr4t05> tsdgeos: in a terminal windows, I want you do open /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[05:00] <waspius> intelikey: ill check thanx
[05:01] <tsdgeos> done
[05:01] <Kr4t05> tsdgeos: when that's open, I need you to CTRL+F for "ServerCmd"
[05:01] <tsdgeos> ctrl+f does not work in vi ;-)
[05:01] <tsdgeos> ServerCmd=/usr/bin/X -br
[05:01] <Kr4t05> tsdgeos: Thank you.
[05:01] <intelikey> i actually did that the other day waspius but i don't have kde anymore, and i rm'd the the file so i can't just "look and see"  for you.
[05:01] <tsdgeos> Kr4t05: np
[05:02] <Kr4t05> tsdgeos: That was exactly what I needed.
[05:02] <mikki> how do i install vlc??
[05:02] <intelikey> !clv
[05:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <intelikey> !vlc
[05:02] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:02] <intelikey> !info vlc
[05:02] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[05:02] <tapas> btw: is there a cool kde based backup tool?
[05:02] <intelikey> there if your repo universe is enabled, just use your favorite package manager frontend
[05:03] <aliasfred> tapas: i have seen one.
[05:03] <jfro> how do you install the build utils
[05:03] <tapas> aliasfred: remember the name?
[05:03] <intelikey> @mikki
[05:03] <jfro> gcc, make etc. all in one swoop
[05:03] <intelikey> !info build-essential
[05:03] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[05:03] <TheGateKeeper> jfro: build-essential
[05:04] <intelikey> @ jfro ^
[05:04] <jfro> huh, that only had a couple it seemed but doing that now
[05:04] <aliasfred> tapas: nope, but i see 4 results in kde-apps.org 'backup'. none that good tho
[05:04] <jfro> unless bison and other stuff is laready installed
[05:04] <mikki> can i find it with adept(VLC)
[05:04] <aliasfred> tapas: http://konserve.sourceforge.net/faq.html is the one i remembered
[05:05] <tapas> aliasfred: ok thanks, will have alook
[05:05] <jfro> thanks guys
[05:05] <intelikey> bison may or may not be considered part of the essentials  you might want to " dpkg -l | grep bison "   to make sure you have it.
[05:05] <TheGateKeeper> mikki: with the right repos enabled probable
[05:05] <carsten> moinmoin
[05:06] <tapas> aliasfred: hrm, it doesn't seem to allow to deselct subdirs, etc..
[05:06] <intelikey> day late and a dollar short i guess.
[05:06] <tapas> aliasfred: oh weill, i'll look around
[05:06] <mikki> repos?
[05:06] <intelikey> !repos
[05:06] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:07] <TheGateKeeper> or http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[05:07] <intelikey> package repositories,  where you find all the soft ware you will ever need
[05:08] <TheGateKeeper> mikki: are you using dapper or breezy?
[05:08] <tapas> arr damn, i might hack one up these days with a script language with kde bindings
[05:08] <intelikey> only two choices ?
[05:09] <intelikey> tapas    http://google.com/linux   search script for backing up         or other key phrases
[05:10] <intelikey> there are many
[05:10] <intelikey> or you can write your own.
[05:10] <tapas> intelikey: yeah.. millions. i will sift through them before writing my own of course
[05:10] <zipper> How do i change my locales in kubuntu? I've got the right locales, although they are the UTF8 versions, not the ISO8xxx i want
[05:11] <TheGateKeeper> tapas: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311&highlight=HOWTO%3A+backup
[05:11] <intelikey> zipper sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[05:11] <tapas> TheGateKeeper: thanks
[05:11] <TheGateKeeper> probable not cool but does the job ^^^
[05:11] <zipper> intelikey, that just updates my locales, it doesnt let me configure which ones should be generated
[05:11] <intelikey> you can add -plow
[05:12] <tapas> TheGateKeeper: heh, i know how to backup my stuff manually :) i want a gui to make it easier for common tasks ;)
[05:12] <TheGateKeeper> tapas: rsync is supposed to be good, and I believe krusader has some capabilities
[05:12] <intelikey> can also reconfig   ubuntu-base
[05:12] <tapas> incremental/full backups, filling of removable media, selecting dirs and unselecting subdirs, etc..
[05:12] <tapas> saveable backup setups etc..
[05:12] <intelikey> with -plow of course
[05:13] <zipper> intelikey, still talking to me?
[05:13] <intelikey> yeah
[05:13] <zipper> hmm
[05:13] <zipper> i think i messed something up
[05:13] <intelikey> beleave it or not  :)
[05:13] <TheGateKeeper> tapas: if you find a good one let me know :-)
[05:14] <intelikey> zipper /etc/env* is where the actual settings are stored one can edit that,  but that's not the *buntu way
[05:15] <zipper> intelikey, thats what i was trying to do, but it doesnt accept the way i used to do it in debian
[05:16] <zipper> if i want da_DK keyboard layout, how should my /etc/enviroment look?
[05:19] <zipper> or just... what does the default /etc/enviroment look like?
[05:19] <zipper> ofcourse i did not back up my original
[05:19] <trappist> zipper: depends on what you selected at install
[05:19] <NetSKaVeN> hell-o!
[05:20] <zipper> trappist, well, i want da_DK keyboard layout, but all my applications should still be in en_GB.
[05:21] <aliasfred> q. does canonical run its own bittorrent seeder for the ubuntu cd ?
[05:21] <zipper> trappist, but apparently, kubuntu doesnt accept the way i used to do it in debian
[05:25] <zipper_> god damn language support is a bitch
[05:25] <zipper_> i would rather recompile an alpha kernel build
[05:26] <newbie_1000> anyone know why my Adept installs keep breaking?
[05:27] <CVirus-Costa> newbie_1000: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure adept
[05:27] <CVirus-Costa> newbie_1000: does it install ?
[05:27] <newbie_1000> what's that do?
[05:28] <CVirus-Costa> newbie_1000: man dpkg-reconfigure
[05:28] <newbie_1000> it downloads, installs, and then says that it can't commit changes cuase of breakage or something.
[05:28] <longbean> newbie_1000: the exact error message is important
[05:28] <CVirus-Costa> newbie_1000: exact error msg please
[05:28] <newbie_1000> um, I'm not using that machine right now.
[05:28] <CVirus-Costa> cant help it then
[05:28] <newbie_1000> And it's currently offline.
[05:29] <newbie_1000> well, I'll try that command.
[05:29] <aliasfred> newbie_1000: the first thing to learn for a newbie is to cut/paste :)
[05:29] <longbean> newbie_1000: searching google with the error message as the search term can sometimes bring up useful info
[05:29] <newbie_1000> allright I can do that. first need to get it online.
[05:30] <newbie_1000> I've been moving equipment around the house to get it online.
[05:31] <newbie_1000> it worked yesterday. Install system, download updates. Then install apps not work anymore.
[05:31] <soulrider> seen !tk
[05:31] <yuriy> does anybody else find this amusing:
[05:31] <yuriy> Please restart any running Firefoxes, or you will experience problems.
[05:32] <newbie_1000> I've not installed firefox. Thats one that I;m trying to install.
[05:32] <yuriy> trying to install?
[05:32] <soulrider> dont use firefox
[05:32] <soulrider> use Opera
[05:32] <yuriy> how does it not work?
[05:32] <soulrider> Opera is the way to go ;)
[05:32] <Kyral_Laptop> I use both randomly
[05:32] <Kyral_Laptop> hehe
[05:32] <yuriy> soulrider: i second that
[05:32] <newbie_1000> I like Opera, but It doesn't work with Gmail Chat.
[05:32] <CVirus-Costa> soulrider: you cant force people to use certain software
[05:32] <soulrider> :)
[05:32] <soulrider> but opera is better
[05:32] <Kyral_Laptop> well, on my desktop I use Konq
[05:33] <yuriy> but nothing wrong with using firefox and he should certainly be able to install it
[05:33] <Kyral_Laptop> but laptop I randomly use Opera or FF
[05:33] <soulrider> CVirus-Costa: i cant, but i can persuade themt o :P
[05:33] <CVirus-Costa> soulrider: troll :-p
[05:33] <newbie_1000> Opera is nice, but they have no design mode. (grr)
[05:33] <soulrider> i like Opera a lot more than FF :P
[05:33] <TheGateKeeper> soulrider: so how many plugins has opera got?
[05:33] <soulrider> im looking forward to nintendo wii
[05:33] <soulrider> its ognna come with opera
[05:33] <newbie_1000> I can make Firefox do what I like, including act like Opera
[05:33] <soulrider> you dont need plugins
[05:33] <soulrider> but you can get them if you want
[05:33] <soulrider> and you can get widgets
[05:34] <newbie_1000> If you want full functionality without extensions, try Flock
[05:34] <soulrider> i gotta try the voice control in oper ain linux
[05:34] <soulrider> havnt tried it yet
[05:34] <newbie_1000> Flock is Gecko, so full rendering capabilities.
[05:35] <TheGateKeeper> soulrider: got anything like InFormEnter or MediaPlayerConectivity?
[05:35] <soulrider> InformEnter?
[05:35] <delight> I got that problem that my Thinkpad is not going into suspend (suspend2ram) on closing the lid after i updated to the latest KDE 3.5.4 ... did somebody else experience similiar after update ? maybe found some workarond ? gnome still does it ;)
[05:36] <TheGateKeeper> soulrider: http://informenter.mozdev.org/
[05:37] <soulrider> i think the magic wand can do that, but i never use that kinds of things
[05:37] <soulrider> i asy try opera for a few days
[05:38] <soulrider> worst that can happen si youll have to do dpkg -P opera :P
[05:38] <TheGateKeeper> soulrider: compete with this ---> http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/
[05:39] <soulrider> oh my, thats a lot of extensions :P
[05:39] <delight> alright seems all u guys r into some browser talk right now .. maybe if somebody finds the time ... i really would like my laptop to be suspending again on lid close ... esp as i prefer kde
[05:39] <soulrider> sorry delight i dont have a laptop, well i do but not with kubuntu :(
[05:40] <TheGateKeeper> soulrider: only got 5 myself ;-) but tell me opera is better when it can do all that!
[05:41] <delight> soulrider thnx ;) ... its working well on it ... u should give it a try ... but maybe not install the latest kde from kubuntu.org .. rather stick with the official release
[05:42] <soulrider> well the laptoo i have is actually my moms, and if i make her use linux, either shes gonna die or shes gonna kill me :P
[05:42] <delight> naaaa, shes gona love it
[05:42] <delight> ;)
[05:42] <soulrider> TheGateKeeper: i really never needed to even look fro any extensions for Opera
[05:43] <stefan> hello, I want to install kubuntu 6.06 dapper on my old pc, but booting cd's doesn't work
[05:43] <soulrider> the only thing i dont like aobut opera is the enbedded bittorrent client
[05:43] <soulrider> but i just dont use it
[05:43] <stefan> only with knoppix and smart bootmanager on floppy it works
[05:44] <stefan> with received original cdrom of kubuntu it doesn't for some reason
[05:44] <TheGateKeeper> soulrider: may be so, but I have 5 of them and I find them very usefull, and telling me I don't need them is the M$ way!!
[05:46] <stefan> i've tried to install as iso, but than i get an error, Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format
[05:47] <stefan> and I've made an iso by using de command dd if=/dev/hdc of=/bootcd/kubuntu.iso
[05:47] <stefan> so my question, is there another way to acces my cdromdrive an install kubuntu
[05:48] <stefan> or another way to install kubuntu, like netboot
[05:48] <soulrider> lol
[05:48] <stefan> or install it via my other pc
[05:48] <stefan> my old pc isn't that old, but it has a little lack of hardware for linux
[05:49] <stefan> P3, 733MHZ, 640MB ram, etc etc
[05:49] <jon_> on my firefox, how do i add a file extension to the download actions?
[05:49] <longbean> stefan: that's doable.
[05:50] <stefan> I've always used mandrake for linux on that pc before on it, and other versions of kubuntu
[05:50] <mikki_> how do i change the permission to a file ?
[05:50] <longbean> stefan: i'm sure there's a way to do a kubuntu netinstall, but i don't know it off the top of my head
[05:50] <stefan> :-) yes that I can understand
[05:50] <stefan> is there a website?
[05:51] <TheGateKeeper> stefan: I have managed to put various distro on my P3 128Mb RAM 20Gb HDD, CDROM + Floppy Disk, sounds like you CDRom is a bit nackered
[05:51] <stefan> but why knoppix can boot?
[05:51] <longbean> stefan: for kubuntu? don't know. i know there's ubuntuforums.org for ubuntu
[05:51] <stefan> after booting with smart bootmanager on floppy
[05:51] <stefan> ok
[05:52] <mikki_> how do i change the permission to a file ?
[05:52] <longbean> stefan: why can't your system boot from the CD?
[05:53] <stefan> don't know
[05:53] <stefan> it's included at the bios
[05:53] <stefan> it has never done
[05:54] <TheGateKeeper> mikki_: chmod  - http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[05:54] <stefan> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75015.html
[05:54] <stefan> there i found some answer for my netboot install
[05:54] <stefan> but what is xpe?
[05:54] <stefan> pxe i mean
[05:54] <drbreen> pxe is a preboot execution environment
[05:55] <drbreen> you can use pxe stuff to ntboot a workstation
[05:55] <drbreen> or you can use a floppy to "emulate" pxe as far as i know
[05:55] <drbreen> stefan: go to -> #ltsp
[05:55] <longbean> stefan: maybe this will be better for you:http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214302
[05:57] <stefan> ok, i'll see, thx
[05:59] <soulrider> is anyone here using frostwire ?
[05:59] <soulrider> miner efuses to open
[05:59] <soulrider> and so does adept
[06:03] <soulrider> does anyone know why frostwire tells me i dont have java installed?
[06:03] <soulrider> abd yes, i have it installed :P
[06:03] <tsdgeos> what's frostwire?
[06:03] <soulrider> its like limewire
[06:03] <soulrider> !seen tk
[06:03] <ubotu> I last saw tk (n=tk@217-68-166-90.dynamic.primacom.net) 38m 22s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[06:04] <ziza> hey ppl, what's the best movie editor in your opinion?
[06:05] <soulrider> ive been trying to find one too
[06:05] <soulrider> but i just need to join 2 files
[06:06] <ziza> i'm looking at google.com/linux for one
[06:07] <stefan> can you install kubuntu without booting the cd?
[06:07] <stefan> in knoppix I can acces the cdrom
[06:08] <stefan> and in commandline on an old kubuntu i can have acces to the cdrom
[06:08] <Bbetto> Hi, i have a problen sending files in kopete, i have the 0.12.1 version, when i send a file my contct don't see the name of file
[06:09] <Bbetto> what hapend?
[06:09] <stefan> Bbetto, i have that too
[06:10] <stefan> I use gaim for sending files
[06:10] <stefan> i didn't yet found a solution for kopete
[06:11] <Bbetto> me too
[06:12] <Bbetto> the people says that the problem has resolved in the 0.12.1 version
[06:12] <Bbetto> but what hapend?
[06:12] <oli> Hi! I can't install the nvidia driver instead of nv. Restricted modules are installed, I changed nv in xorg.cong to nvidia, but then the X server doesn't start.
[06:12] <epinephrine> did you install nvidia-glx?
[06:13] <oli> epinephrine yes I did.
[06:14] <epinephrine> hm, and does the restricted modules package match your kernel version?
[06:14] <epinephrine> if so, I'm out of ideas. :P
[06:14] <oli> all does match
[06:14] <v3ctor> what does the xorg log say?
[06:14] <epinephrine> what does X.org's log say?
[06:15] <v3ctor> lol
[06:15] <epinephrine> ;)
[06:16] <epinephrine> all I did was install nvidia-glx, the restricted modules, replaces nv with nvidia and restarted X
[06:16] <epinephrine> just.. worked
[06:16] <v3ctor> same here
[06:16] <oli> hum, I forgot to save xorg.log. Now it's overwritten :o(
[06:16] <epinephrine> would have thought it'd change nv to nvidia for me, tbh
[06:17] <oli> that is what I did @ epinephrine
[06:17] <oli> perhaps I try it with the k7-Kernel (I have an Athlon 1000)
[06:18] <epinephrine> it should match your running kernel
[06:18] <oli> yes, shure, I will change the kernel AND the modules
[06:20] <oli> thx
[06:20] <oli> bye
[06:21] <epinephrine> good luck
[06:29] <r0xz> something in kat is fighting with kded on kde 3.5.4 here :s
[06:33] <jontec> How can I run php scripts from my public_html folder?
[06:34] <jontec> What is the link that I need to put in a browser?
[06:35] <trappist> jontec: if it's enabled by default, http://localhost/~yourusername
[06:35] <jueriy> join #kubuntu-de
[06:35] <jontec> thanks ^_^
[06:36] <zipper_> Is there any way to restore your /etc/enviroment and/or locales? I think i've messed something up, and i'm unsure how to fix it
[06:37] <trappist> zipper_: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[06:38] <zipper_> tried that, doesnt let me configure anything (in oppose to debian), it just updates my locales
[06:41] <zipper_> god
[06:42] <zipper_> why is kubuntu trying so hard to keep me away from changing my locales?
[06:42] <zipper_> any reason why dpkg-reconfigure locales shouldn't allow you to change anything?
[06:43] <Tm_T> zipper_: it's funny, yes
[06:43] <stefan> is there also a kubuntu-be?
[06:43] <stefan> :p
[06:43] <stefan> #kubuntu-be
[06:44] <Tm_T> stefan: if there's not, you can create one
[06:44] <stefan> :p
[06:44] <zipper_> Tm_T, funny? Not exactly the word i would've chosen
[06:44] <stefan> but i'm not going to answer questions whole the evening :p
[06:44] <Tm_T> zipper_: I rambled over it a week ago or so
[06:44] <zipper_> Tm_T, i'm more likely to call it something like... i dont know... causing suicides, nerve-wrecking, annoying
[06:45] <Tm_T> hehe
[06:45] <zipper_> oh?
[06:45] <zipper_> found a solution?
[06:45] <Gh0st75> i love wikis :)
[06:45] <Gh0st75> finally got java working, woot
[06:45] <Tm_T> well, easy, if locale you like to use, is generated, just change /etc/environment
[06:45] <Gh0st75> all i had forgotten to do was type sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:46] <zipper_> Tm_T, i did change my /etc/enviroments, but i get an error... 2 secs
[06:48] <oli> rehi ephinephrine! I installed k7-Kernel with restricted-modules - now it works with my nvidia driver...
[06:48] <Parkotron> How do I make Kubuntu regenerate /boot/grub/menu.lst? grub-update updates it with the kernels on the local partition, but how do I make it detect operating sytems on other partitions like it does on first installation?
[06:49] <zipper_> Tm_T, my environment : http://pastebin.dk/index.php?show=2032
[06:50] <Gh0st75> when you install frostwire using the instructions in the ubuntu wiki, where does it put the shortcut to it? i can't seem to find it
[06:50] <Tm_T> zipper_: how about en_GB@UTF-8
[06:50] <Gh0st75> eep, late for work, bbl
[06:51] <zipper_> Tm_T, what about it? I need da_DK for my keyboard layout, but i still want my applications to be in en/en_GB
[06:51] <djclue917> Gh0st75: try refreshing the K Menu. "kbuildsycoca"
[06:51] <djclue917> Gh0st75: BTW, just ignore the error messages
[06:51] <Tm_T> zipper_: keyboard layout is defined elsewhere iirc
[06:52] <Tm_T> zipper_: I have all en_GB@UTF-8 in environment and still finnish keyb
[06:55] <jon_> doesnt etc/apt/sources.list pull up the sources list
[06:56] <zipper_> Tm_T, hmm... thats definitily not the way i'm used to from debian
[06:57] <zipper_> i'm feeling more and more lost
[06:57] <Tm_T> zipper_: well, that's how I learned it in debian
[06:57] <zipper_> then how did you get finnish keyboard layout?
[06:58] <Tm_T> zipper_: hum, I did choose during install
[06:58] <zipper_> meh
[06:58] <Tm_T> anyway, there was way to config it afterwards, just don't remember it rightaway
[06:59] <zipper_> Tm_T, apparently, noone does =/
[06:59] <Tm_T> haven't needed it since sarge released
[07:00] <zipper_> grrrrrrrrr
[07:01] <zipper_> i hate setting up charsets so much... too much hate... something needs to be destroyed... soon...
[07:01] <Tm_T> =)
[07:03] <Tm_T> zipper_: does kbd-config help?
[07:03] <zipper_> seriously though, why must it be so hard? I mean, compared to compiling and running a leaked alpha test kernel, locales are hell
[07:03] <gnomefreak> Riddell: do you know if anyone looked into 3.5.4 kicker bug?
[07:05] <Riddell> gnomefreak: which bug?
[07:05] <gnomefreak> Riddell: the kicker doesnt load in edgy i have a bug on it and talked to a few people with same issues if you give me a sec ill get the bug number
[07:05] <zipper_> Tm_T, havent tried that yet, let me just give it a go
[07:06] <zipper_> Tm_T, hmm, you know what package contains kdb-config?
[07:06] <gnomefreak> bug 56137
[07:06] <gnomefreak> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde/+bug/56137
[07:09] <zipper_> !kdb-config
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdb-config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <zipper_> !kdb
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <zipper_> !info kdb-config
[07:09] <ubotu> Package kdb-config does not exist in dapper
[07:09] <zipper_> =(
[07:10] <harmental> where do you your 2 cents go to: azureus or bittornado?
[07:11] <DaSkreech> !sound
[07:11] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:11] <soulrider_> ktorrent
[07:11] <soulrider_> :P
[07:12] <DaSkreech> soulrider_: 2.0?
[07:12] <soulrider_> yea
[07:12] <soulrider_> it works fine
[07:12] <soulrider_> i posted on their forums about some change si believe they should make
[07:13] <zipper_> In which package can i find 'kdb-config' ?
[07:13] <soulrider_> as soon as i learn enough programming im gonna try and make my own BT client
[07:13] <soulrider_> brb
[07:13] <harmental> soulrider_: korrent does not work at all for me....i
[07:13] <harmental> tried reinstalling but i wont even load!
[07:14] <newbie_1000> how do I install GCC?
[07:15] <DaSkreech> harmental: Did you look in the systray?
[07:15] <trappist> newbie_1000: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:15] <DaSkreech> !b-e > newbie_1000
[07:15] <harmental> DaSkreech: systray?
[07:15] <DaSkreech> harmental: The rightmost section of the kicker beside the Clock
[07:16] <harmental> DaSkreech: im a newbie by the way... ;o)
[07:16] <newbie_1000> I keep getting this error when try to install apps
[07:16] <newbie_1000> in Adept
[07:16] <harmental> DaSkreech: ok...what about it?
[07:16] <DaSkreech> harmental: Is ktorrent open there?
[07:16] <DaSkreech> The Icon
[07:16] <harmental> DaSkreech: ooooh..i lknow what your thinking..
[07:17] <ThomasI> Where can i get initrd.gz / linux netinstaller files for Kubuntu, I'm litle confused all i can find seems for Ubuntu
[07:17] <zipper_> Tm_T, are you still there mate?
[07:17] <soulrider> im back
[07:17] <Tm_T> zipper_: mooh
[07:17] <harmental> no no....it gives the "a bug" message that tolds that ktorrent was not loaded....
[07:17] <newbie_1000> My Adept installs keep breaking
[07:17] <zipper_> Tm_T, :)... you got my last messages?
[07:17] <DaSkreech> newbie_1000: How so?
[07:17] <soulrider> err does anyone know why i cant access my pen drive?
[07:17] <soulrider> i connect ti but i cant "go isnide" it
[07:17] <soulrider> or mount it
[07:17] <soulrider> i get  "unknown error"
[07:18] <zipper_> Tm_T, you asked me to try kdb-config, but i dont have that application, and i have a hard time figuring out which package i should install to get it
[07:18] <gnomefreak> newbie_1000: segfaults?
[07:18] <newbie_1000> I get this error message every time
[07:18] <Tm_T> zipper_: hmm, lemme see
[07:18] <newbie_1000> segfualts???
[07:19] <newbie_1000> Can I paste the error message here?
[07:20] <DaSkreech> no
[07:20] <DaSkreech> !pastebin
[07:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:20] <newbie_1000> It's only little
[07:20] <Tm_T> zipper_: console-common
[07:20] <Tm_T> newbie_1000: one line? then here
[07:20] <zipper_> ah, thanks. Let me just give it a go
[07:20] <newbie_1000> Here's the error message. Get it in Adept and Adept Installer:
[07:21] <DaSkreech> newbie_1000: It's easier with pastebin You can always refer to it late
[07:21] <Tm_T> zipper_: kio-apt <3
[07:21] <ThomasI> !netinstall
[07:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:21] <newbie_1000> ok
[07:21] <zipper_> Tm_T, hmm, i already got console-common installed =|
[07:21] <Tm_T> zipper_: :p
[07:21] <DaSkreech> ThomasI: Install a server ubuntu and install kubuntu-desktop
[07:21] <DaSkreech> Same thing as a net install of kubuntu
[07:22] <DaSkreech> later :-(
[07:22] <Tm_T> zipper_: mooh, then "apt-cache search kbd" etc etc
[07:22] <ThomasI> allright
[07:22] <ThomasI> thanks
[07:22] <Tm_T> anyway, I'm off ->
[07:22] <zipper_> Tm_T, tried that, installing different stuff, no luck. Thanks for trying though
[07:23] <soulrider> err, does anyone know why i cant access my pen drive?
[07:23] <soulrider> since i upgraded HAL i cant :/
[07:24] <soulrider> !es
[07:24] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:28] <ThomasI> DaSkreech: I dont seem to have a chance choosing server to be instaled when using netboot images :(
[07:29] <KiDD420> how do I make konversation automaticly join channel upon connect
[07:30] <DaSkreech> KiDD420: It's in the server settings
[07:30] <DaSkreech> KiDD420: Press F2
[07:30] <soulrider> hey KiDD420what you told me about my pppoe conenction worked like charm!
[07:30] <nikkiana> if i were trying to install fonts, where would i put the font files?
[07:30] <KiDD420> did it?
[07:30] <KiDD420> im glad
[07:30] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Hello :)
[07:30] <soulrider> :)
[07:30] <nikkiana> hi DaSkreech
[07:30] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: did you try fonts:/
[07:31] <DaSkreech> Oh in that case I won't ask what kept you so busy :-D
[07:31] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, well, that would be a logical place to put them but i can't seem to FIND the fonts folder (and yes, i turned on the ability to see hidden folders)
[07:31] <KiDD420> DaSkreech: How would i make it automatically log me into idlerpg by messaging newdlebot
[07:32] <DaSkreech> KiDD420: I'm confuzzled as to the question :)
[07:32] <KiDD420> i want some sort of script or something to send a message upon connect
[07:32] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: That's agood point I don't know where Fonts are either :) If you drag and drop the font into the result of fonts:/ it will install it for you
[07:32] <DaSkreech> KiDD420: You can send a command upon logging in
[07:33] <zipper_> Anyone knows which package contains 'kdb-config' ?
[07:33] <nikkiana> okays.
[07:33] <KiDD420> how?
[07:33] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Let me know in case for some reason I have cobwebs in the brain
[07:33] <KiDD420> thanks
[07:33] <KiDD420> I got it
[07:33] <KiDD420> brb
[07:33] <DaSkreech> KiDD420: press F2 select the server .. Doh!!!!
[07:34] <soulrider> err my pen drive isnt working
[07:34] <soulrider> it gives me "unknown error"
[07:34] <soulrider> any ideas? i cant mount or open it
[07:34] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, also right clickin on the font file and selecting "install" works too
[07:34] <ThomasI> DaSkreech: I'm using a grub/local install, what would be the correct line to install the server system
[07:34] <ThomasI> kernel (hd0,0)/boot/linux vga=normal ramdisk_size=17032 root=/dev/rd/0 rw --
[07:34] <newbie_1000> I put that error in the Paste-Bin
[07:34] <ThomasI> kist addomg "server" there?
[07:34] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Duh. Of course :)
[07:34] <ThomasI> sqhgsbqs
[07:34] <DaSkreech> soulrider: You can't mount?
[07:35] <soulrider> no
[07:35] <ThomasI> bah :)
[07:35] <KiDD420> is there a way to make it wait before sending because it sent too early
[07:35] <soulrider> it wont let me do anything
[07:35] <DaSkreech> KiDD420: Not sure. ask in #konversation
[07:35] <soulrider> i connect it and "TUPPERWARE" apper son my desktop, i click on it adn i geta ne rror. I try to moun it and i get ane rror
[07:36] <DaSkreech> ThomasI: Hey have you tried asking in #ubuntu ? It just occured to me since they wrote it they would probably know :)
[07:36] <KiDD420> ok thanks
[07:36] <newbie_1000> Can anyone tell me what my Adept error is?
[07:36] <DaSkreech> newbie_1000: You have to give us the pastbin URL
[07:36] <soulrider> link tot he pastebin ?
[07:37] <newbie_1000> pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20572
[07:37] <newbie_1000> seeing as it has a list of most recent posts, don't know why you need that.
[07:37] <soulrider> just in case
[07:37] <DaSkreech> newbie_1000: Extreme laziness :)
[07:37] <soulrider> and because we are lazy :P
[07:38] <soulrider> newbie_1000:
[07:38] <soulrider> open a command line
[07:38] <soulrider> adn type
[07:38] <DaSkreech> newbie_1000: Can you try typing sudo dpkg --configure -a into a command line?
[07:38] <soulrider> dpkg --configure -a
[07:38] <soulrider> argh
[07:38] <soulrider> beat me :P
[07:38] <newbie_1000> yeah
[07:38] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:39] <newbie_1000> ok, I ran that command, now what? test it?
[07:39] <soulrider> now just open adept
[07:40] <newbie_1000> real adept, or can I just use Adept installer?
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Real adept :)
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Dun dun duuuuunnnnnn!
[07:44] <newbie_1000> just curious, is there a way to make it so that there is ONE admin password?
[07:45] <DaSkreech> What do you mean?
[07:46] <newbie_1000> Any user can gain root access with there password.
[07:46] <niels> !wine
[07:46] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:46] <soulrider> !HAL
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about HAL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <newbie_1000> by the way, that didn't work.
[07:46] <DaSkreech> newbie_1000: No Only the first user
[07:46] <trappist> newbie_1000: only a user who is a sudoer can do that
[07:46] <newbie_1000> oh, ok
[07:46] <DaSkreech> By default
[07:46] <aliasfred> the first user as the one given during the install ?
[07:47] <trappist> yes
[07:47] <newbie_1000> um, that dpkg thing didn't work.
[07:47] <niels> is there a faster way to go to the destkop than minimalising all,
[07:47] <KiDD420> how do I install a bz2.run file?
[07:47] <jontec> I'm doing a local phpBB installation. Does anyone know what I need to put in for the SQL database information? I'm not sure if Kubuntu has Postgre or mySqL or both. And then which version.
[07:47] <newbie_1000> add the show desktop applet to the panel
[07:48] <newbie_1000> It's just a button.
[07:48] <newbie_1000> gtg cya
[07:48] <KarnaK> Hey, where do i change the GRUB login order? and how do i alter it?
[07:48] <MPR> KiDD420: #run file.bz2.run
[07:48] <MPR> IIRC
[07:48] <aliasfred> KarnaK: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:48] <farous> KarnaK: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:48] <KarnaK> aliasfred: Okey, Thanks
[07:48] <trappist> KiDD420: sh file.run
[07:48] <aliasfred> KarnaK: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:49] <KarnaK> farous: Thanks
[07:49] <farous> ur w :)
[07:49] <KiDD420> thanks trappist
[07:49] <MilhousePunkRock> sh that was, not run...
[07:50] <KiDD420> i tried yours first
[07:50] <KiDD420> whats sh
[07:50] <dhq> is there anyway to check for errors in the whole kubuntu system
[07:50] <aliasfred> dhq: less /var/log/messages
[07:50] <aliasfred> dhq: or more generaly the log file in /var/log/
[07:51] <dhq> aliasfred: auto check and correct errors by scaning the pc
[07:51] <dhq> aliasfred: i guess not
[07:51] <DaSkreech> dhq: Do you mean the hard drive?
[07:51] <aliasfred> dhq: ???
[07:52] <dhq> DaSkreech: i mean check the kernel and all the system
[07:52] <KiDD420> home/levi/.setup5706: error while loading shared libraries: libgdk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:52] <KarnaK> where do i change so i can get read access to my NTFS drives?
[07:52] <KiDD420> i have gdk isntalled
[07:52] <aliasfred> dhq: dunno what you mean, but you dont make much sense :)
[07:52] <aliasfred> dhq: what do you wanna check ?
[07:52] <dhq> aliasfred: just repair all the files and remove files that are not used
[07:53] <aliasfred> oh to check the filesystem
[07:53] <aliasfred> this is done automatically when you boot
[07:53] <KiDD420> isnt linux the best
[07:53] <aliasfred> as to remove the unused files, this doesnt exist as the system cant know which file is used or not
[07:53] <dhq> KiDD420: i love linux
[07:54] <dhq> aliasfred: do you know anything on skype
[07:54] <soulrider> i cant beliveve how rude some people are int he ubuntu-es channel
[07:54] <aliasfred> dhq: yes...
[07:55] <aliasfred> i know the name and that is a phone system over the internet
[07:55] <KiDD420> what about skype
[07:55] <dhq> well i have problem in the sound cant play mp3 and use skype "problem with sound device"
[07:55] <KiDD420> >.>
[07:55] <Bbetto> how can i make taht ubuntu reed my memory sandisk, becouse nothing hapend when i insert it
[07:55] <KarnaK> How can i access my NTFS drives?
[07:56] <farous> dhq: do not use skype if you have a progg that is using the sound device
[07:56] <aliasfred> and i know another thing about skype, it does use oss . so it is impossible to have simutaneous access the the audio card
[07:56] <farous> skype uses oss which need exclusive right to the sound dev
[07:56] <jontec> Where is the database server that phpBB needs located. As in where are the mySQL/PostgreSQL database servers located?
[07:56] <Bbetto> how can i make taht ubuntu reed my memory sandisk, becouse nothing hapend when i insert it
[07:57] <Lynoure> there is a beta of skype that manages with alsa
[07:57] <KarnaK> it says i dont have the access to my drives
[07:57] <aliasfred> Bbetto: what is a 'memory sandisk'
[07:57] <KiDD420> lol
[07:57] <Bbetto> sandisk memory card
[07:57] <aliasfred> sandisk is like a trademark or something ?
[07:58] <KiDD420> do you have driver installed for card reader or is it usb?
[07:58] <KiDD420> sandisk is company name
[07:58] <dhq> aliasfred: when i used to use windows i could use both skype and play music
[07:58] <Bbetto> is USB
[07:58] <aliasfred> dhq: good to know
[07:58] <KiDD420> windows hates you
[07:58] <KiDD420> it talks behind your back
[07:59] <KarnaK> how can i change so i can read my NTFS drives?
[07:59] <Bbetto> SDSM
[07:59] <Bbetto> SanDisk memory
[07:59] <dhq> yes spyware mailware hangs etc dont remind me those days
[07:59] <DHGE> KarnaK: /etc/fstab
[08:00] <Bbetto> or i need a driver to efil reader-4?
[08:00] <KarnaK> DHGE: What do i change in that document?
[08:01] <DHGE> http://www.google.com/search?q=mount+ntfs
[08:01] <DHGE> e.g. /dev/hda2       /media/winsystem     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[08:02] <KiDD420> !libgdk
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <KarnaK> DHGE: ahh okey, will try it. Thanks
[08:02] <KiDD420> !gdk
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <KiDD420> !ntfs
[08:02] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:02] <jontec> In need information on the setup of mySQL and PostgreSQL as in where they are located within Kubuntu.
[08:02] <Bbetto> somethisg abaut my memory card?
[08:03] <DHGE> jontec: man postgres                    locate postgres
[08:04] <KarnaK> DHGE: Now ive changed it, is it just to restart now?
[08:04] <DHGE> KarnaK: mount /dev/your_harddrive     as root
[08:05] <DHGE> or do it manually before writing /etc/fstab
[08:05] <KarnaK> DHGE: Thanks again! sorry for all the questions, im new to Linux ;)
[08:05] <DHGE> ok ...
[08:07] <gen0m> hi
[08:07] <nonex_> ppl where look repositories?
[08:08] <aliasfred> nonex_: english speaking here :)
[08:08] <KiDD420> uhhh
[08:08] <KiDD420> english
[08:08] <nonex_> sources.list
[08:08] <nonex_> adres
[08:08] <nonex_> deb http ......
[08:08] <Hawkwind> nonex_: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:08] <nonex_> noo
[08:08] <nonex_> me i know
[08:08] <aliasfred> maouaoua nonex_ you pay internet by the number of char you type ?
[08:08] <Hawkwind> aliasfred: Hah!  Good one :P
[08:09] <DHGE> !sources
[08:09] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:09] <nonex_> adres LIST
[08:09] <nonex_> deb
[08:09] <nonex_> where download package
[08:09] <jontec> DHGE:Okay, so I found it. Do you have any idea what information that I need to put in phpBB installation? Does all of this have to be moved to public_html for me to use it?
[08:09] <nonex_> adres
[08:09] <Martijn81> !easysource > nonex
[08:09] <Martijn81> !easysource > nonex_
[08:10] <aliasfred> nonex_: is it because you dont speak english well enought ?
[08:10] <nonex_> thx ppl
[08:10] <jontec> phpBB asks fir Database server name, database name, database username, and database password?
[08:10] <aliasfred> there are other channel in other languages, what is your native langague nonex_
[08:10] <Hawkwind> jontec: That's all MySQL stuff
[08:10] <DHGE> jontec: ??? i dunno php    read the install readme   debian/kubuntu debs should come with sane defaults ...
[08:11] <DHGE> ask in phpBB channel if there is one
[08:11] <jontec> DHGE:thanks
[08:11] <jontec> that was a start at least with the locate
[08:12] <jontec> hawkwind:I'm trying to figure out whether mySQL is the one to use or not. I only know what is installed from looking at Adept decriptions.
[08:12] <DHGE> jontec: U need to set up a DB and run init-scripts   then make a connection   google for a howto
[08:12] <Hawkwind> jontec: phpBB requires MySQL
[08:13] <jontec> dhge:I don't know what you mean
[08:13] <DHGE> DB = database
[08:14] <KarnaK> Isn the Creative SB Audigy 4 supported in Kubuntu?
[08:14] <jontec> hawkwind:is mySQL installed on Kubuntu? if so, do oyu know which version. I have an option in the installation for mySQL 3, mySQL 4/5 and PostgreSQL 7.x
[08:14] <KarnaK> isnt*
[08:15] <jontec> dghe:I don't know how to do that, I'm completely new at this T_T
[08:16] <niels> lo everybody, can sb help me with installing/playing cod in linux?
[08:20] <KarnaK> internet problems sorry. Is the creative SB audigy 4 supported in Kubuntu?
[08:22] <DaSkreech> jontec: You want to install mysql?
[08:22] <jontec> daSkreech:only if it's not installed already
[08:23] <DaSkreech> jontec: It isn't if you didn't install it
[08:23] <jontec> okay, then yes.
[08:24] <DaSkreech> jontec: I'll assume you are on kubuntu
[08:24] <DaSkreech> can You open adept
[08:24] <jontec> yes, is the package mysql-client-5.0?
[08:24] <jontec> (I have it open)
[08:26] <DaSkreech> jontec: mysql-common
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Martijn81: Is it?
[08:27] <Martijn81> don't know, wiki says it's recommended though
[08:27] <Martijn81> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportRecommendedHardware?highlight=%28hardware%29
[08:27] <jontec> DaSkreech:it says it's installed, I think the package I need is mysql-server-5.0?
[08:28] <DaSkreech> jontec: ! Duh yeah of course :)
[08:28] <DaSkreech> You may want one of the admin tools if you have never used mysql before
[08:28] <jontec> admin tools?
[08:28] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[08:28] <Kyral_Laptop> If you haven't used MySQL
[08:28] <Kyral_Laptop> bookmark www.mysql.com :P
[08:29] <Kyral_Laptop> the documentation is excellent
[08:29] <jontec> kyral_laptop:thanks
[08:29] <jontec> DaSkreech:how do I get the admin tools?
[08:29] <Kyral_Laptop> and also get a copy of O'Reilly's MySQL In A Nutshell
[08:29] <DaSkreech> Kyral_Laptop: he doesn't need that if he's just installing PHPbb :)
[08:30] <Kyral_Laptop> oh just set a root password on the MySQL
[08:30] <Kyral_Laptop> its blank on install
[08:31] <DaSkreech> jontec: try kmysqladmin
[08:31] <DaSkreech> never used it can't vouch for it
[08:31] <DaSkreech>  It's got a k in it though :)
[08:31] <Kyral_Laptop> I just use the command line
[08:31] <DaSkreech> me too
[08:31] <Kyral_Laptop> Its also useful to know
[08:31] <Kyral_Laptop> for maintanence
[08:31] <Hawkwind> phpmyadmin is very easy as well
[08:32] <Kyral_Laptop> eh I don't like MyAdmin
[08:32] <Kyral_Laptop> its another possible security hole
[08:32] <Hawkwind> Anything is a possible security hole, even the stuff you type from CLI
[08:33] <Kyral_Laptop> Hawkwind: I know, but to put a webbased frontend
[08:33] <Kyral_Laptop> a well KNOWN frontend
[08:33] <geiseri> Riddell: i followed the howto, but it seems that im missing the installer part
[08:33] <Hawkwind> Kyral_Laptop: So then you probably don't use Xchat, konversation or anything like that since they are 'well' known
[08:33] <Kyral_Laptop> Desktop security is a different beast than server security
[08:33] <jontec> kmysqladmin brings my total download to: 31M
[08:34] <Hawkwind> Kyral_Laptop: Probably best to not use the kernel or xorg since it's well known :P
[08:34] <Kyral_Laptop> Desktops should have no services listening
[08:34] <jontec> and one sec and I'll see how long that will take on dial-up.
[08:34] <jontec> T_T
[08:34] <Kyral_Laptop> Servers....you should crack down as much as possible
[08:35] <jontec> 132.2666... minutes.
[08:35] <Kyral_Laptop> Like turning OFF Register Globals in the PHP config
[08:35] <Hawkwind> Well you can use phpmyadmin locally without it being accessible from the net.
[08:35] <Riddell> geiseri: make sure ubiquity and ubiquity-frontend-kde are installed
[08:35] <jontec> 2hr 20min. I'll do it while I'm at band practice.
[08:35] <geiseri> Riddell: ah okay
[08:35] <Riddell> geiseri: it appears as an icon on the desktop
[08:36] <Hawkwind> 2+ hours for 31M of download.  I'd just give up using the internet if I had to deal with that
[08:36] <unix_infidel> geiseri: try the kqemu accelerator.
[08:36] <geiseri> unix_infidel: i am
[08:36] <Kyral_Laptop> Just go to the library with a usbkey and download it there :P
[08:36] <Hawkwind> Kyral_Laptop: Hah yeah no doubt
[08:37] <geiseri> unix_infidel: im thinking there are bigger problems with my live image
[08:37] <Kyral_Laptop> USBKeys, the new Floppy Disk
[08:37] <unix_infidel> geiseri: a lot of people have reported really decent usability with kqemu.
[08:37] <Kr4t05> Could someone do me a favor?
[08:37] <unix_infidel> not compared to vmware, but decent.
[08:37] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: ??
[08:37] <Kr4t05> This is the second time I've had to do this, today.
[08:37] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind: Are you running XGL?
[08:37] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: Ewwww no :P
[08:37] <geiseri> unix_infidel: yes, i know, i use it for some other projects.
[08:38] <geiseri> unix_infidel: its better than vmware because its easier to script
[08:38] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind: Good, I need you to open /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[08:38] <unix_infidel> geiseri: what do you mean script?
[08:38] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind: Paste me the "ServerCmd" line
[08:38] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: ServerCmd=/usr/bin/X -br
[08:39] <geiseri> unix_infidel: i wrote kjsembed bindings for their manager interface, so i can use javascripts to do things like swap cdrom images, and manipulate the vm for automated testing
[08:39] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind: Merci beau coup.
[08:39] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: No problem :)
[08:39] <unix_infidel> geiseri: i do testing of a lot of OS's at once.
[08:39] <scast> Shit, Kubuntu is amazing o:
[08:39] <unix_infidel> i tend to stick to one that works for the purpose.
[08:40] <geiseri> unix_infidel: i really only run one at a time
[08:40] <unix_infidel> geiseri: if i need to do automated testing i can do that WITHIN the vm
[08:41] <geiseri> unix_infidel: probibally
[08:41] <unix_infidel> geiseri: honestly, if you're are doing high end testing for some different OS's its best to either use vmware or install it.
[08:42] <unix_infidel> its seriously like comparing virtual pc 4 to the latest vmware.
[08:42] <geiseri> unix_infidel: why?
[08:42] <geiseri> unix_infidel: with my scripts i just set stuff up, let it run and get coffie :)
[08:42] <geiseri> unix_infidel: im just installing, once the images are installed, i use chroot for builds
[08:43] <unix_infidel> geiseri: well, i dont code javascript or do testing with kqemu intensively.  So that may just work for your purposes.
[08:43] <MasterBrack> hi all... i was wondering if theres a way to control all the sliders through kmix
[08:44] <MasterBrack> i have a surround sound system and master only controls the front speakers
[08:44] <geiseri> unix_infidel: if i got into virtualised speed, id just use xen, but all i really need to do is run installers
[08:44] <unix_infidel> MasterBrack: you can setup some keybinds. easy enough.
[08:44] <MasterBrack> so you're thinking just shortcut the ones that i need to change?
[08:44] <MasterBrack> makes sense... thats probably the best way to do it
[08:45] <unix_infidel> geiseri: like i said i dont do virtualized speeds testing or do installer code.
[08:46] <pascal_> How do I play DV files in Kaffeine? I need some sort of codec for xine, but I cant find one...
[08:48] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: So how are you?
[08:49] <MasterBrack> unix_infidel: in kmix the shortcuts only apply to one thing... they're not changing the other sliders
[08:49] <MasterBrack> i have the keys assigned to the volume control, yet only the master channel is changing
[08:49] <unix_infidel> MasterBrack: I juse use keybinds with amix or something.
[08:50] <MasterBrack> alrighty  i'll try amix
[08:50] <unix_infidel> MasterBrack: or aumix...either way.
[08:50] <unix_infidel> i use them within fluxbox though.
[08:50] <MasterBrack> how would i go about replacing kmix? just have it not launch at startup?
[08:51] <unix_infidel> i dont use KDE, just some of the components.
[08:51] <MasterBrack> ah
[08:51] <MasterBrack> i see
[08:51] <MasterBrack> right... a friend of mine uses fluxbox as well
[08:52] <unix_infidel> MasterBrack: i'm not telling you to use fluxbox to be able to change volume.  I'm just saying you can setup keybinds within KDE with a gui just the same to manage aumix
[08:53] <MasterBrack> no right right
[08:53] <MasterBrack> i was just playin with aumix now
[08:55] <unix_infidel> anyone recommend some multi-dimensional FOSS DMBS?
[08:58] <soulrider> dod ubntuforums crash o somehting? :/
[08:58] <soulrider> nevermind
[08:58] <oliver_> pascal_, maybe mplayer or vlc does
[09:04] <zipper_> ok, i messed up my /etc/environment... is there any way to restore the default settings or something?
[09:14] <zecarlos> Opa
[09:14] <zecarlos> Boa tarde
[09:19] <otaku-san> does anyone know the name of that SuperKaramba theme that you can put programs on for quick access?  It's the one that looks like something off of OS X
[09:20] <uber_mort> KXdocker will do that I believe
[09:21] <zipper_> ok, i messed up my /etc/environment... is there any way to restore the default settings or something?
[09:22] <uber_mort> what'd you do to it?
[09:22] <Hawkwind> zipper_: I can paste you mine if that would help
[09:22] <zipper_> Hawkwind, couldn't hurt
[09:22] <zipper_> uber_mort, i tried fixing my keyboard layout
[09:22] <otaku-san> uber_mort: KXdocker...hmmm I thought it had Tux in it...I look it up tho'
[09:22] <Hawkwind> zipper_: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/48
[09:23] <zipper_> and found out my method i used from debian sarge didnt work (anymore?) in kubuntu
[09:23] <uber_mort> Ahh, I was gonna offer to paste mine too, looks like hawk beat me to it though.  Good luck.
[09:23] <zipper_> thanks
[09:34] <DaSkreech> zipper_: Kinda
[09:34] <newbie_1000> my debian/apt/adept isn't working. I can't install any packages with adept.
[09:34] <wind> hey how come all my dvds are purple when i try to watch them
[09:34] <zipper_> DaSkreech, hmm?
[09:34] <DaSkreech> newbie_1000: What did you do?
[09:34] <newbie_1000> I tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure adept and sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:34] <DaSkreech> zipper_: You can copy /etc/skel
[09:34] <newbie_1000> still isn't working
[09:35] <DaSkreech> wind: Upgrade from the blue movies to hidef?
[09:35] <zipper_> DaSkreech, how would that help me?
[09:35] <DaSkreech> newbie_1000: What did you do that broke it?
[09:35] <DaSkreech> zipper_: It would give you the default env
[09:35] <RogueX> Can anyone help me with PPTP?
[09:35] <newbie_1000> DaSkreech: Ran Complete Upgrade after install.
[09:35] <wind> ?
[09:36] <DaSkreech> newbie_1000: And it crashed?
[09:36] <wind> also when i try to watch a video on firefox with mplayer, it opens a new window for some reason
[09:36] <zipper_> DaSkreech, doesnt tell me much about what my locales are, its just a copy of what every new user get in their ~
[09:36] <newbie_1000> Yes. Something crashed. I think it was my session, I ended up back at the log in.
[09:36] <RogueX> Can anyone help me with PPTP?
[09:36] <DaSkreech> zipper_: Ah thought you were asking for a new env
[09:36] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Sleepy head
[09:37] <DaSkreech> newbie_1000: Ah can You apt-get update from the command line?
[09:37] <newbie_1000> I think...
[09:37] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: Welcome
[09:39] <ubuntu> hi when i start the kubuntu live dvd after booting into the GUI something crashes and give me a signal6 SIGBART
[09:40] <DaSkreech> newbie_1000: Worked?
[09:41] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: when does it crash?
[09:42] <newbie_1000> DaSkreech: got this error when ran apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20581
[09:42] <TOX> does anyone here know what desktopx is
[09:42] <newbie_1000> My session crashed yesterday when I was still running Adept Update
[09:42] <hume> I'm setting up samba, and trying to use kdenetwork-filesharing package. This seem to work ok, but I cannot add or change users with it. Anyone knows about this?
[09:43] <newbie_1000> hume: Um, for some reason I think you need to add system users. Could be wrong though.
[09:43] <DaSkreech> hume: Have you tried man samba
[09:43] <hume> newbie_1000, seems you run apt as user, try sudo apt-get update
[09:44] <hume> DaSkreech, yes, I've read it. You think of any specific information in it that I missed?
[09:44] <newbie_1000> I did run apt as sudo. I got all of that gibberish. Then I run it again and it work,
[09:45] <DaSkreech> hume: Well it does speak of samba users in there I think
[09:45] <DaSkreech> newbie_1000: That's a lot of network not reached can you ping the server?
[09:45] <hume> newbie_1000, yes, I need to add system users, and when I try to do that in the window of Internet and networks > Samba, tab users, they are added but they are not therre when I re-run it
[09:45] <Tm_T> hmm
[09:46] <newbie_1000> I've not tried sharing via samba yet, only accessing. SO, never mind me.
[09:46] <ubuntu> how can i install kubuntu? after startup i get a signal6 SIGBART and the desktop wallpaper disappears and no desktop icons appear :( ?
[09:47] <RogueJediX> Hey. I just replaced my cdrom drive with a  DVDrw drive. Do I have to update fstab manually or is there a convenient script that'll do that for me?
[09:47] <newbie_1000> I had that. I ran an update with adept and it fixed KDesktop.
[09:47] <newbie_1000> ubuntu: I had that. I ran an update with adept and it fixed KDesktop.
[09:48] <ubuntu> can you guide me through plz newbie_1000 im booting from the live dvd selecting the start install option
[09:49] <newbie_1000> um, I don't know. anyone know the command for the install program?
[09:49] <ubuntu> found adept :)
[09:49] <newbie_1000> It only works if your installed.
[09:49] <ubuntu> how do i install ?
[09:49] <newbie_1000> If you Live, that aint gonna work.
[09:49] <Gh0st75> command for the install? i just put the dvd in and booted to that drive
[09:50] <newbie_1000> then you double click the Install button, but he can't see it
[09:50] <ubuntu> thats what i did and i get a SIGBART once kubuntu starts
[09:50] <Gh0st75> that will boot you into the live CD, and on the desktop you just click Install icon to start installing the actual OS
[09:50] <ubuntu> no install button after SIGBART
[09:50] <newbie_1000> sigbart?
[09:50] <Gh0st75> never heard of sigbart
[09:50] <ubuntu> signal6 SIGBART
[09:51] <newbie_1000> When I installed Kubuntu on this machine, KDesktop crashed.
[09:51] <Gh0st75> only installed Kubuntu twice tho, so i may have not seen all possible errors
[09:51] <newbie_1000> Is that what your getting, a crash window?
[09:51] <ubuntu> yep kdesktop crashed
[09:51] <newbie_1000> I seen that on one of my other computers.
[09:51] <newbie_1000> Didn't install on that machine though...
[09:51] <ubuntu> then the desktop image changes from bubble to a matte blue screen
[09:51] <LeeJunFan> that's SIGABRT
[09:52] <hume> how can I get a "home" icon on the toolbar next to the K-menu-icon?
[09:52] <ubuntu> lol thats the one
[09:52] <newbie_1000> So, you just need to open Katapult, and type the command that runs teh installer, whatever that is.
[09:53] <ubuntu> can someone plz boot from live dvd and them me no the command that the install icon executes ?
[09:53] <newbie_1000> hume: Try the Quick Browser applet. I think it can be configured to just show you home directory.
[09:54] <newbie_1000> ubuntu: I could, but you'll have to wait about 10 minutes.
[09:54] <crazy_penguin> Hi all!
[09:54] <newbie_1000> brb, cya, ubuntu
[09:54] <ubuntu> nice 1 mate :)
[09:55] <ubuntu> that worked going to the desktop shortcut :)
[09:55] <hume> newbie_1000, you mean that there is no ready-made home icon just to place there? (i didn't find any but thought that was because I was so lost)
[10:06] <newbie_1000> ubuntu: still there?
[10:06] <newbie_1000> ubuntu: hello?
[10:07] <z00m> anyone know much about security ?
[10:07] <z00m> i think my box has been rooted
[10:07] <newbie_1000> use passwords, SSH instead of Telnet, that's all I know really.
[10:08] <newbie_1000> ubuntu: the command to run the install program is kdesu ubiquity kde-ui
[10:09] <z00m> ill post up some screen shots of my firewall logs
[10:09] <z00m> if anyone can help please take a look
[10:10] <newbie_1000> DaSkreech: I still can't use Adept.
[10:10] <z00m> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20584 <----- screeny of firewall right now
[10:11] <newbie_1000> ubuntu: are you still there? what are you doing. are you using Kubuntu LiveCD or Ubuntu?
[10:12] <z00m> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20585 <----- thats another one
[10:12] <newbie_1000> zOOm: I don't think anyone's listening.
[10:13] <z00m> seems that way
[10:13] <G-Dog> has anyone setup privoxy or tor
[10:15] <newbie_1000> ubuntu:
[10:19] <djk_> could someone paste his grub.conf ?
[10:23] <misieq> where can i get floppy images for ubuntu to boot a cd?
[10:24] <kees_> how can i share files on my computer (as a server)?
[10:24] <misieq> kees_: nfs, smb, ftp or http...
[10:25] <kees_> smb
[10:25] <kees_> smb
[10:31] <felipe__> hello everybody
[10:32] <Absolut> falae galera
[10:33] <Absolut> alow
[10:34] <Gh0st75> hmm, wierd.....i have no sound. only changes i made were installing java and frostwire
[10:34] <otaku-san> okay I just configured, maked, and make installed KXdocker.  I started it up and the little icon bounced and then a kde icon bounced real quick and then nothing.  I tried to run it in Konsole but it said KXdocker was already running...ok then where is KXdocker?
[10:35] <Gh0st75> rebooting to winxp to see if it's my speakers that are dead
[10:35] <otaku-san> Gh0st75: hey go to Examples in your home file
[10:36] <otaku-san> and run one of the sound files
[10:36] <otaku-san> he left
[10:36] <DaSkreech> Someone plugged out my speakers
[10:37] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: you mean unplugged them?
[10:37] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[10:38] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: can't you just plug em' back in? Lol
[10:39] <DaSkreech> otaku-san: Yeah after I crawled behind the desk and computer
[10:39] <Gh0st75> hmm, sound works fine in winxp
[10:40] <otaku-san> Gh0st75: I was about to suggest going into examples in you home dir and running a sound file...but you left!!! Hehe
[10:40] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: yeah I can relate to that
[10:40] <Gh0st75> i tried playing movies and music files, but i don't even get startup noises when the desktop loads
[10:40] <Gh0st75> under sound and multimedia panel now, testing sound settings but nada
[10:40] <DaSkreech> Mute?
[10:41] <Gh0st75> the players weren't on mute, no
[10:41] <Gh0st75> and sound system is Enabled
[10:41] <otaku-san> Gh0st75: ....man that's major...Java probably did it...
[10:41] <ehasting> is there any kde app for recieveing and transfareing with Irda? (from my cellphone)
[10:42] <Gh0st75> friggin java, spent 3 days tryin to get the darn thing installed too
[10:42] <DaSkreech> otaku-san: Good Demonizing
[10:43] <TOX> is there a better mouse control program i can get
[10:43] <otaku-san> Gh0st75: holy moley 3 days...sounds familiar tho'!
[10:43] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: Demonizing?
[10:44] <Gh0st75> yeah, could have been installed in 2 minutes if i hadn't gotten too many different answers, lol....in the end i followed the steps on the ubuntu wiki, two lines into the konsole later i was done
[10:44] <KarnaK> Hey! Is Creative SB Audigy 4 supported in Kubuntu? i cant seem to get it working
[10:45] <otaku-san> Gh0st75: hehe that sounds familiar too!
[10:46] <Gh0st75> resetting the sound system now
[10:46] <otaku-san> KarnaK: should be...it would be known as a Generic Media Device...what are you using to look at it.  I used Amarok on my Creative Muvo and it recognized it in a snap
[10:47] <MetaMorfoziS> is there any way to set mmy browsing ssl?
[10:47] <MetaMorfoziS> m-
[10:47] <trappist> MetaMorfoziS: you have to browse to ssl sites.  then it will be ssl.
[10:47] <KarnaK> Im lokking in the settings menu, in KDE and Pressing "Test Sound"  :)
[10:47] <trappist> MetaMorfoziS: the server and the client (your browser) have to cooperate on the encryption
[10:47] <byen> hey guys... which kernel should I use for a P4-Mobile processor?
[10:48] <MetaMorfoziS> but if i want to encrypt all of my communication on port 80 isnt any way?
[10:48] <MetaMorfoziS> how?
[10:48] <orangelady> Hey there!
[10:48] <trappist> MetaMorfoziS: not if the other end isn't encrypted.  you could browse through an encrypted proxy server, but even then it's not encrypted between the proxy and the server.
[10:49] <orangelady> I have quite a strange network problem and can't find a solution anywhere...
[10:49] <MetaMorfoziS> argh...
[10:49] <MetaMorfoziS> thanx
[10:49] <MetaMorfoziS> and is there any free proxy server?
[10:49] <trappist> MetaMorfoziS: yes.  ask google.
[10:49] <MetaMorfoziS> oh , sry
[10:49] <MetaMorfoziS> ok.
[10:49] <Gh0st75> gah, even when i try to reset sound settings to defaults, i still get no sound
[10:50] <orangelady> I first had the well known DNS problems with my router, which I could solve with locking my resolv.conf
[10:50] <orangelady> internet still seemed somewhat slow and so i disabled ipv6 via a bad_list file
[10:50] <Pagan0ne> im having an issue with xorg and kde can someone help me?
[10:51] <otaku-san> KarnaK: is that what your doing to see if your Mp3 player is recognized?
[10:51] <orangelady> but i still can't acces neither www.opera.com nor www.digg.com, haven't found any other sites non functioning yet
[10:52] <KarnaK> otaku-san: ive started amarok now to try and do something, im pretty new to Linux
[10:52] <Gh0st75> should i remove java to see if that restores my sound or am i gonna have to reinstall Kubuntu?
[10:52] <orangelady> dns lookup is fine, as i can see in the terminal by typing host www.opera.com
[10:52] <otaku-san> Karnak: do you want me to run you through with what I did or you think you got it?
[10:52] <KarnaK> otaku-san: please run me through it
[10:53] <orangelady> this problem is the same with opera, firefox or konqueror and even links
[10:53] <otaku-san> Gh0st75: now that you know how to install Java just nuke it and try your sound
[10:53] <orangelady> reinstalled kubuntu, same problem
[10:53] <otaku-san> Karnak: ok I'll start a private chat with you so we don't bog the board
[10:53] <orangelady> under windows i have no problems accessing these sites whatsoever, any ideas?
[10:53] <KarnaK> otaku-san:okey
[10:54] <LeeJunFan> orangelady: perhaps it pmtu discovery, messed up MTU's will cause that with some sites.
[10:54] <otaku-san> KarnaK: ok hold tight something came up...I'll be with you in a jiffy
[10:54] <Pagan0ne__> im having an issue with xorg and kde can someone help me?
[10:54] <KarnaK> otaku-san ok, no worries
[10:55] <LeeJunFan> orangelady: sysctl net.ipv4.ip_no_pmtu_disc   --- will show you the value of that setting, make sure it's 0.
[10:55] <trappist> Pagan0ne__: try asking a specific question.  you might have better luck than repeating that you're having a problem.
[10:55] <orangelady> leejunfan: could you explain that a little more or point me to some website i can read about it, i'm pretty new to linux but willing to learn
[10:55] <Gh0st75> removed the java packages, still no sound
[10:56] <orangelady> leejunfan: it's 0
[10:58] <LeeJunFan> orangelady: if you traceroute or mtr www.opera.com does the test make it all the way?
[10:58] <orangelady> leejunfan: btw, many thanx for trying to help
[10:59] <LeeJunFan> orangelady: btw what type of connetion are you using? do you have a router? what kind? and is it pppoe?
[10:59] <orangelady> leejunfan: yes it does
[11:00] <LeeJunFan> orangelady: well, hrm - have you tried different browsers on the same linux machine? konqueror and firefox both?
[11:00] <orangelady> leejunfan: i have a router, totally noname: synergy21 s21617b, its identical to the aztech dsl600ew
[11:00] <TheGateKeeper> orangelady: Windows to Ubuntu Transition Guide:http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/917/
[11:01] <orangelady> leejunfan: yes, tried even links
[11:01] <TOX> i need a better thing for my mouse, 4 buttons are unuseable
[11:02] <orangelady> leejunfan: it uses pppoe
[11:02] <pagan0ne> ok maby konversation will work this time
[11:03] <pagan0ne> can someone please help me with a small issue with xorg, kde, and the nvidia drivers?
[11:03] <crazy_penguin> Hi all!
[11:03] <orangelady> thegatekeeper: thanx, but couldn't find anything related to my problem there
[11:03] <Gh0st75> i'm hesitant to reinstall kubuntu to fix my loss of sound, what if installing java does the same darn thing again?
[11:03] <trappist> pagan0ne: what I mean is.  tell the nice people what the problem is, so somebody doesn't have to volunteer to help you solve a problem without knowing anything about it.
[11:04] <crazy_penguin> have someone recently try to run xorg with glx extension on riva tnt2 m64?
[11:04] <pagan0ne> trappist: ok, i was just having an issue there for a few min's with my client disconnecting after my first message
[11:05] <Gh0st75> go figure, "no sound in kubuntu" in googles finds zilch other than unsupported sound cards
[11:05] <DaSkreech> otaku-san: Yeah Demonizing :)
[11:05] <user___> hi i now have ubuntu installed yay :)
[11:06] <orangelady> leejunfan: i googled, searched the forums but couldn't find anything like this, except for the ipv6 problem, which doesn't seem to be the problem here
[11:06] <user___> does anyone know how to get openGL working and also how to change the resolution ?
[11:06] <pagan0ne> my problem is that i just installed the nvidia drivers using kubunutu's adept, and set up my system to run 2 monitors, and when i select the resolution, instead of the desktop fitting in the screen, the desktop "scrolls" on each monitor, asin i reach the edge of what should be one monitor to enter into the 2nd one, and instead of entering that one, the monitor scrolls over about an inch before i enter that screen.
[11:06] <Gh0st75> congrats user___, the headaches have only begun :)
[11:07] <user___> lol
[11:07] <DaSkreech> orangelady: Maybe you are behind a proxy?
[11:07] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: is this a good thing?  Is this something a n00b such as me won't understand? hehe But anyways please explain Demonizing
[11:07] <user___> i want to try and get vmware running aswell if possible :) ?
[11:07] <user___> hi newbie_1000 i got it installed :)
[11:07] <newbie_1000> DaSkreech: I reinstalled. How should I go about running the upgrade so it doesn't break again?
[11:08] <TOX> theres a guide to making it disply the right size right
[11:08] <newbie_1000> user__: was my command helpful?
[11:08] <LeeJunFan> orangelady: well, this is s stumper. Have you tried resetting your router/modem?
[11:08] <orangelady> daskreech: nope, i'm just behind my own router, which i set up, no proxy, firewall disabled
[11:08] <user___> does anyone know where the resolution setting is ?
[11:09] <newbie_1000> system sttings => display
[11:09] <crazy_penguin> i tried to run xorg on riva tnt2 vido card but i gat the following error: Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device! Has anyone an ideea what is happening. i followed the wiki ad litteram. :(
[11:09] <orangelady> leejunfan: well yeah, tried around with some settings too, nothing helped though
[11:09] <newbie_1000> crazy_penguin: I've the same card, haven't tried to configure for 3D, but X runs.
[11:09] <Gh0st75> switchin to windows which works, gotta have sound while i watch a movie
[11:10] <scast> Hey I added a new path to my $PATH variable and added a new menu entry but when I try to open it with katapult it says KDEInit could not launch it. Also if I try to open it with the K Menu it doesnt open but does not say anything. It is weird because I can open it using Konsole
[11:10] <otaku-san> Gh0st75: sad thing your in man
[11:10] <crazy_penguin> newbie_1000: what driver are you using nv or nvidia in xorg?
[11:10] <scast> Also happens using Alt-F2... Any idea?
[11:10] <otaku-san> Gh0st75: having to change to Windoze to get sound to work
[11:11] <newbie_1000> crazy_penguin: I haven't done anything. Nothing 3D works. But I've got no games or anything so it should be okay for now. Just tell me what you do when you get it figured out :-)
[11:11] <newbie_1000> crazy_penguin: but teh default is nv driver.
[11:12] <LeeJunFan> orangelady: well it does seem to have something to do with mtu maybe. If I ping -s 1472 [packet size 1500]  from here to digg.com it gets truncated, if I ping yahoo it does not.
[11:12] <homeuser> hi, i'm having a problem with not being able to see the boot screen or my ctrl+alt+F1, etc. consoles after switching monitors
[11:13] <LeeJunFan> orangelady: well then, opera.com does ping large, lemme set no fragment and try again.
[11:13] <macconline> hi... where are in kde the splash???
[11:13] <crazy_penguin> newbie_1000: yes. but i want to make it wokr . for now i don't know why the binary driver from ubuntu doesn't work. but if i figure it out i will tell you. i think is something that could be resolved by rebulding the drivers. i will download the driver from nvidia and try to make it work
[11:13] <newbie_1000> DaSkreech: What should I do now that I've reinstalled. Adept is wanting me to update. Should I use apt-get, aptitude, or adept?
[11:14] <newbie_1000> crazy_penguin: ok, good luck
[11:14] <pagan0ne> TOX: could you point me in the direction of the guide as i cant even determin weather its a xorg, kde, or nvidia issue, i would think its xorg, but cant seem to find any useful info on google about it
[11:14] <user___> does anyone know if the nvidia-glx driver works with a 6800gs pci-e
[11:14] <TOX> pagan, i dont know where the guide is, but i remember seening a thing about how to make the screen fit right
[11:15] <newbie_1000> crazy_penguin: I was under the impression you could download binary NVidia drivers, seeing as they write them.
[11:15] <LeeJunFan> orangelady: ping -s 1472 -M do digg.com [do prohibit fragmentation]  will truncate, to opera it just plain fails, to yahoo it works fine. Maybe you should try turning on pmtu?
[11:15] <orangelady> leejunfan: what do you want me to do exactly? type lemme set no fragment in the terminal? sorry, newbie here
[11:16] <newbie_1000> is the RIIVA tnt2 an nvidia card?
[11:16] <homeuser> could anyone give me some pointers with this problem?
[11:16] <LeeJunFan> orangelady: sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_no_pmtu_disc=1
[11:16] <newbie_1000> homeuser: you may have to wait, seeing as the people who
[11:16] <newbie_1000> 'd know aren't on.
[11:17] <homeuser> k, sure
[11:18] <newbie_1000> homeuser: if you can't find teh right people here, and don't mind wating a little bin longer, try the forums.
[11:19] <homeuser> yeah, okay
[11:19] <TOX> are there viruses for *nix
[11:19] <LeeJunFan> orangelady: http://www.netheaven.com/pmtu.html  check the example at the bottom.  After running the sysctl command above try going to one of the pages.
[11:19] <user___> anyone know if this works   Linux Display Driver - AMD64/EM64T from the nvidia site ?
[11:19] <Agios> homeuser: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:20] <newbie_1000> TOX: some, but most need root privelidges. I think there's less than a dozen real linux viruses.
[11:20] <TOX> cool
[11:20] <Dasnipa`> hmm can someone help me get the digital output working on my soundcard?
[11:20] <newbie_1000> TOX: you should still scan emails for windows viruses so you friends don't get them.
[11:20] <Dasnipa`> s/pdif out
[11:21] <TOX> are there little mostly becuase its harder, or becuase programers dont hate *nix like they do windows
[11:21] <homeuser> Agios: does it matter if i choose nv or nvidia? (i have an nvidia card)
[11:21] <newbie_1000> TOX: a lot of reasons. mostly comes down to harder to write and less people using it.
[11:22] <TOX> k
[11:22] <LeeJunFan> orangelady: brb
[11:22] <TOX> would you happen to know a program that will let me use the other buttons on my mouse?
[11:22] <TOX> right now i just gor right, left and wheel
[11:23] <DaSkreech> newbie_1000: Sorry just getting back to the computer
[11:23] <DaSkreech> newbie_1000: What's up?
[11:23] <newbie_1000> TOX: I know you can manually map extra buttons to new things. The middle button (scroll wheel) usually has a function tied to it.
[11:23] <scast> Hello all... I am having a litle problem launching an Application. I added a new path to my $PATH variable and added a new menu entry but when I try to open it with katapult it says KDEInit could not launch it. Also if I try to open it with the K Menu it doesnt open but does not say anything. Samething happens with Alt+F2 It is weird because I can open it using Konsole... Please help!
[11:23] <newbie_1000> DaSkreech: I reinstalled the system, keeping my home partition. Now I want to know how I should upgrade so that doeesn't happen again. apt-get, aptitude, adept?
[11:24] <TOX> well my mouse has 8 buttons, i can use 3
[11:24] <aliasfred> scast, put it in /etc/profile and restart kde
[11:24] <newbie_1000> TOX: I don't know, but there are usually lots of ways. You may have to configure X to use the extra buttons.
[11:25] <TOX> configure X?
[11:25] <scast> aliasfred: what, the export PATH="..." ?
[11:25] <TheGateKeeper> newbie_1000: are you trying to update from breezy to dapper?
[11:25] <newbie_1000> TOX: X is the program that controls the display and mouse.
[11:25] <aliasfred> scast: yes
[11:25] <orangelady> leejunfan: this doesn't seem to be the problem...
[11:25] <DaSkreech> newbie_1000: Apt-get seem ok
[11:25] <scast> aliasfred: do I have to do that everytime I change my PATH ?
[11:26] <LeeJunFan> orangelady: what is the default gw of your linux system 192.168.1.1?
[11:26] <newbie_1000> TheGateKeeper: no, just regular upgrade, dapper 6.06 to new 6.0.6.1. did it yesterday and it ruined my apt db
[11:26] <TOX> do i have to use terminal to configure it?
[11:26] <TheGateKeeper> newbie_1000: ok :-)
[11:26] <aliasfred> scast: when you want the whole kde to take it into account, yes
[11:26] <orangelady> leejunfan: i can access gateway.com and nonags.com with either 0 or 1 set
[11:26] <newbie_1000> DaSkreech: apt-get update then apt-get upgrade?
[11:26] <scast> :o... First distro I have to do that :o
[11:27] <orangelady> leejunfan: excite.com however i cannot access, neither digg.com
[11:28] <orangelady> leejunfan: but strangely, just as i was doing this i could access opera.com, but only under opera, not in konqueror
[11:28] <newbie_1000> DaSkreech: apt-get update then apt-get upgrade?
[11:28] <fritsch> orangelady: without knowing anything, try to change the mtu either of you dialing device or your network card, if you are behind a router
[11:29] <LeeJunFan> orangelady: it was a remote possibility, that would only affect your outgoing packets. My guess is your MTU on your linux machine is set to 1500, the default for LANs, so your system tells remote servers to send packet sizes of 1500 to you, but when they get to your pppoe and it drops 8 bytes but won't fragment them they can't come to you.
[11:29] <fritsch> LeeJunFan: same thought
[11:29] <aliasfred> just to be sure it is the mtu, make him to telnet port 80 first
[11:29] <orangelady> leejunfan: 192.168.1.1 is my router and thus also my default gateway, yes
[11:29] <aliasfred> if the connection establish it may be the mtu
[11:30] <aliasfred> if it does, it is likly not the mtu
[11:30] <LeeJunFan> orangelady: sudo ip route change default via [your default gateway ip]  mtu 1492
[11:30] <fritsch> orangelady: what is your network interface? eth0?
[11:30] <DaSkreech> newbie_1000: Si!
[11:30] <DaSkreech> newbie_1000: try apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:30] <orangelady> fritsch: eth0
[11:30] <newbie_1000> DaSkreech: ok
[11:31] <fritsch> orangelady: sudo ifconfig eth0 mtu 1452
[11:31] <LeeJunFan> aliasfred, orangelady: true, try 'telnet www.opera.com' after it connects type 'GET[enter] '
[11:31] <aliasfred> orangelady: please do 'telnet 64.191.203.30 80' and tell me if it connect
[11:31] <fritsch> orangelady: if this does not change anything -> we have to search otherwhere
[11:31] <fritsch> orangelady: but listen to the others ;-) too much info for you in one time
[11:31] <aliasfred> LeeJunFan: with 80 at the end of telnet :)
[11:31] <orangelady> hey yall, not that fast, im a girl + im a newbie!
[11:32] <aliasfred>  orangelady: please do 'telnet 64.191.203.30 80' and tell me if it connect
[11:32] <newbie_1000> DaSkreech: but 6.06 to 6.06.1 shouldn't need a whole distro updrade. Is that right?
[11:32] <mik51587> anyone know how to make this chat client work with msn?
[11:32] <DaSkreech> newbie_1000: Nope but it won't kill you
[11:32] <aliasfred> the ip is digg.com
[11:32] <DaSkreech>  You can dist-upgrade all the time
[11:32] <aliasfred> something you could not access
[11:32] <LeeJunFan> aliasfred: oops yeah, with the port 80. Although just connecting won't rule out MTU as the syn/ack packets will be small anyway.
[11:32] <orangelady> aliasfred: connect
[11:33] <aliasfred> LeeJunFan: ok so the mtu or ecn :)
[11:33] <LeeJunFan> orangelady: now type 'GET' and see if you get html.
[11:33] <aliasfred> have fun :)
[11:33] <newbie_1000> DaSkreech: should I enable source repositories or is that overkill?
[11:33] <DaSkreech> newbie_1000: Only if you are going to be playing around in the source code of programs
[11:33] <newbie_1000> DaSkreech: I may do that later, but not now. so, binary only!
[11:34] <DaSkreech> :-)
[11:34] <orangelady> leejunfan: yeah, got html
[11:34] <orangelady> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
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302 Found</title>


The document has moved <a href="http://diggtheblog.blogspot.com/">here</a>.</p>
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Apache Server at blog.digg.com Port 80</address>
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[11:34] <orangelady> Connection closed by foreign host.
[11:35] <DaSkreech> !paste
[11:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:35] <LeeJunFan> orangelady: watch the channel flooding - it will get you kicked.
[11:35] <orangelady> oh sorry, guess, that was spam
[11:35] <DaSkreech> Please don't paste here
[11:35] <orangelady> sorry again, i'm new, will try to learn!
[11:35] <LeeJunFan> orangelady: was that everything?
[11:35] <orangelady> yep
[11:36] <newbie_1000> DaSkreech: is that right, apt-get dist-upgrade?
[11:36] <DaSkreech> Yes
[11:37] <newbie_1000> ok
[11:37] <orangelady> leejunfan: yes
[11:37] <LeeJunFan> orangelady: just for the sake of being thorough try ip route change default via [your gateway ip]  mtu 1492
[11:37] <LeeJunFan> orangelady: sudo ip route...
[11:39] <orangelady> leejunfan: did that, didn't help
[11:40] <LeeJunFan> orangelady: try the telnet thing with 'telnet www.opera.com 80' then GET.
[11:40] <orangelady> leejunfan: i don't know if that is of any help, in my router setup i can set a mru value, it's at 1492, i can also choose to enforce mru, this is disabled
[11:41] <orangelady> leejunfan: got the whole page
[11:42] <LeeJunFan> orangelady: I think with ppp connections you should enforce mru.
[11:43] <LeeJunFan> orangelady: I have a feeling it's an image on one of the servers causing the pages not to load, when you telnet and GET you are asking only for the HTML which may be below an MTU packetsize anyway, but there's probably an image that's larger than the MTU causing it to hang on loading the page.
[11:44] <trappist> an image size > the mtu shouldn't keep it from loading
[11:45] <trappist> trying to load an image from an overloaded site might, for a while
[11:47] <LeeJunFan> trappist: no, but it's a pppoe connection with 1492 max MTU. If the remote site doesn't do pmtu discovery correctly then it's sending packets larger than orangelady's connection will xmit, and if somewhere between orangelady and the remote site DF [Don't fragment]  is set then it won't break up the 1500byte packet size to fit down the 1492pppoe connection.
[11:48] <trappist> LeeJunFan: the kernel should just reassemble the fragments in any case
[11:48] <LeeJunFan> trappist: there won't be any, it's a router.
[11:48] <LeeJunFan> they won't get past the router to the kernel.
[11:49] <cerda> the best software similar to guitar pro ?!?!?
[11:49] <trappist> cerda: what's it do, write tablature?
[11:49] <dell500> I just recently formated a 300GB SATA drive with a USB enclosure... the fs is in NTFS and I used the command 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc1 /media/usb-sata' but it says it's the wrong fs for some reason
[11:50] <cerda> trappist, yes a program to write tabs for guitar, drums piano...
[11:51] <trappist> cerda: might try lilypond.  or songwrite/kguitar/gnometab/etktab for guitar-specific software.
[11:52] <orange_lady> leejunfan: when setting enforce mru, i had to disconnect and now my nick's still registered somehow, well here i am again, thanx again for your help so far
[11:53] <LeeJunFan> orange_lady: no prob. Any luck?
[11:53] <word> is there a way to assign a process to a certain x window?
[11:53] <orange_lady> leejunfan: and sure enough, this seems to have solved the problem!
[11:53] <LeeJunFan> orange_lady: cool! I was pretty sure we were barking up the right tree.
[11:53] <orange_lady> leejunfan: thanx a lot!
[11:54] <orange_lady> leejunfan: what's barking up a tree? i'm german... ;-)
[11:54] <trappist> word: can you elaborate
[11:54] <LeeJunFan> orange_lady: I have a feeling that when we tried the ip route change maybe we didn't set your MTU low enough to overcome it but if your router takes care of it - that's a better option anyway.
[11:54] <user___> when running sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8762-pkg2.run it complains about not being able to find ld ?
[11:54] <LeeJunFan> orange_lady: that we were on the right track, had the right idea what the problem was, etc... Just searching for a solution.
[11:55] <word> trappist: I want to use irexec to launch mythfrontend on my tv which uses a seperate 'sreen' or i think it's called a seperate x window.. anyway if I don't want it to launch in my monitor screen i want it to launch in my tv.
[11:55] <user___> but binutils-static is installed ?
[11:55] <word> trappist: when irexec is launched from that screen mythfrontend launches from that screen
[11:55] <word> but if i have it autostart it seems it doesn't start from the tv's window
[11:55] <trappist> user___: I've seen that before when trying to build a package.  couldn't find it in the chroot environment or something, I guess.  don't remember how I solved that, but make sure you have ld and friends - sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[11:56] <orange_lady> leejunfan: i think i even understand a little of what the problem was, well still don't really understand why windows can do it, but must be a setting in windows which is able to find the right mtu
[11:57] <trappist> word: oh, presumably your tv is set up as like another monitor, in which case you should be able to say something like DISPLAY=:1 irexec
[11:57] <edards_> ?
[11:57] <edards_> teste 18:57
[11:57] <LeeJunFan> orange_lady: I'm wondering the same thing - windows may have a smaller default MTU or somehow detect and set it's mtu differently.
[11:57] <word> trappist: oh that makes sense :D I'll try that now
[11:57] <user___> ad ld is called ld-static in /bin
[11:58] <orange_lady> leejunfan: it's those silly little things that make it so hard for a windows power user to get into linux, you just have to learn all this stuff from scratch...
[11:58] <trappist> user___: you don't have a /usr/bin/ld?
[11:59] <trappist> well that's all I got - I'm out
[11:59] <orange_lady> leejunfan: but well, this is great, after about a week of trying on my own and reading many many forums, this is finally solved, thanx a lot again!
[12:01] <LeeJunFan> orange_lady: your welcome, this is one of those things you only know about if you've learned the hard way personally. I set the MTU on a dialup server too low once and had similar problems to different sites.
[12:01] <LeeJunFan> orange_lady: luckilly when the calls started coming in that hotmail.com wouldn't load I knew I had only changed 1 thing.. so it was easy to figure out.
[12:03] <user___> ok solved the ld problem now i need objcopy, anyone know what package this is in ?
[12:03] <orange_lady> leejunfan: well, just installed kubuntu, after about 10 years of windows, 5 yeats of which also doing some sysadmin stuff for a small company... much more than one thing that changed!
[12:04] <cerda> i cant get sound to work on flash :(
[12:07] <user___> how can i exit x server or can i move to a different init to install nvidia drivers ?
[12:08] <jordanR> #debian
[12:09] <DaSkreech> user___: Alt+Ctrl+F1