/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2006/08/14/#ubuntu-kernel.txt

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wordsofglasshi, i just compiled a kernel according to the FAQ and comp is a lot faster, but mounting extra drives wont work, it tells me they're mounted or the folder is busy; i do have all the fs-types compiled into the kernel03:28
wordsofglassnot sure if this is the place to ask03:29
infinityIt's not.03:38
infinityThis isn't a support channel, but rather a kernel development channel.03:39
infinity(For Ubuntu-specific kernel development, obviously)03:39
wordsofglasssorry, i realized after looking at the channel list categories03:40
wordsofglasssupport vs devel team channels03:40
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lifelesshi06:53
lifelessany chance of us enabling the callgraph option, which oprofile needs to get callgraph data ?06:54
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crimsunlifeless: For Dapper/Edgy? What needs to be tweaked? The callgraph patch on oprofile.sf.net seems to already be in ubuntu-dapper.git, and oprofile is modularised.07:05
lifelesswell07:06
lifelessI'm not an oprofile expert07:06
lifelessbut when I follow the faq info for getting callgraph data07:06
lifelessit generates no parents/children07:06
lifeless(this is using dapper)07:07
crimsunsorry, I don't have any experience with it either07:10
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dokoBenC: will the xfs corruption bug be fixed in the dapper kernel?08:34
BenCdoko: If I recall the bug report, there was no clear and simple update to fix that bug08:34
BenCbasically meant backporting the entire xfs tree08:35
dokoouch08:35
dokoBenC: so the answer is yes, or maybe later?08:36
BenCdoko: the answer is "not unless the fix becomes a lot easier"08:37
BenCI'm a little reluctant to backport an entire fs08:37
zulyou can do it!08:37
zulheh08:37
kbyrdinfinity: ping.08:38
kbyrdok, anyone: infinity has said that he would include the vmware-player-kernel package into the l-r-m build for edgy. What would be the deadline for that? 08:41
BenCkbyrd: I'll probably be able to get to it with the next kernel upload08:42
BenCit's an ABI bump anyway, so perfect time to do that08:42
BenCkbyrd: is there a place to download stock tarball's for this?08:43
kbyrdCool. But, we're considering releasing vmware-server as a deb, and we would have a vmware-server-kernel package too. So, I need to know when I have to get that to you.08:44
kbyrdBenC: about the tarball, there isn't a stock tarball of just the modules (it's not a separate installer for us normall). But, the current package includes the source and makefiles. 08:45
BenCok, I'll pull from that08:45
kbyrdBut, last time I talked to someone. the l-r-m build isn't going to include our modules, it's going to build the entire package. The reason for this is that we actually need to have two packages: vmware-player-kernel and vmware-server-kernel.08:46
kbyrdThey can't co-exist.08:47
kbyrdYou guys don't have vmware-server-* yet. But in my version, they conflict with vmware-player-*08:47
kbyrdSo, I still need to get a deadline for handing off vmware-server-kernel to you all to be included in edgy.08:50
BenCthe sooner you get them to me, the sooner I'll get it done :)08:51
BenCbasically I'll keep vmware-player-kernel in l-r-m package proper, and build vmware-server-kernel in separate package08:52
BenCl-r-m package will provide vmware-player-kernel to satisfy any deps08:52
BenChmm, wait08:53
BenCthey'll both need to be separate packages08:53
BenCbut I can do that easily08:54
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BenCmdz: ping09:45
mdzBenC: pong09:45
BenCmdz: I'm in the middle of running an extensive benchmark test on -386 vs. -686 on my UP P4 2Ghz system09:46
BenCI'm going to do the same on my Athlon64 UP system with -amd64-generic vs. -amd64-k809:47
BenCand the same on my SMP xeon09:47
BenCjust to see if these alt kernels are giving us _any_ performance improvement (and my bet is that they aren't)09:48
mdzBenC: thank you, it's high time we had some hard data to work with09:49
mdzBenC: SMP/dual-core support out of the box in Edgy would be valuable09:50
BenCgood thing is that most systems with SMP/dual-core fall into the amd64 category, so they already get it, but with Intel's CoreDuo coming out, that will change09:51
BenC$ cat /proc/version_signature 09:53
BenCUbuntu 2.6.17-7.19-amd64-xeon09:53
BenCthat's going to be a useful little file09:53
mdzindeed indeed09:54
mjg59BenC: Coming out? There's been shipping Core Duo hardware since February...09:56
BenCmjg59: I meant CoreDuo2, sorry09:57
mjg59BenC: Core Duo 2 is amd6409:57
BenCCoreDuo 2 is emt6409:57
mjg59Well09:57
mjg59The scheduling is close enough, surely?09:58
BenCoh, I get what you mean now :)09:58
mjg59Heh09:58
mjg59Yes, the ones where we're losing are the original core duos09:58
BenCI thought some of the CoreDuo2 was 32-bit still09:58
BenCmaybe I need to reread the docs09:58
BenCI know there's CoreDuo2 - emt64, and CoreDuo2 - ia6410:01
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mjg59BenC: Pretty certain there's no ia64 ones10:02
BenCdamnit, you ppl are going to make me open this powerpoint on windows, aren't you? :)10:03
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kylem_it probably says "Dual Core Itanium2"10:03
BenCit was all convoluted into a big PPT file, so it's understandable if I got all the 100 name combinations mixed up10:05
kylem_:)10:05
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mdzmjg59: regarding our discussion about the ondemand governor, will it only appear in available_governors if it works properly? or do we need to be cleverer than that?10:11
mdzit seems to work OK on the systems I have access to, so I don't know what the other case looks like10:12
mjg59mdz: We need to be cleverer than that10:12
mjg59Hm. At least, I think so.10:12
mjg59It might be cleverer than I think10:12
mjg59The failure will be that attempting to set the governer to ondemand will fail10:12
mjg59In that case, we probably want to fall back to powernowd10:13
mdzoh, that's easy enough then10:13
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zulhey11:49
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