[01:12] <bmonty> hi LaserJock
[01:12] <Sacrafice> is anyone here an admin in #ubuntu?
[01:12] <Burgundavia> Sacrafice: yep. What's up?
[01:14] <Sacrafice> i just got banned from #ubuntu and i was only in there for 3 seconds
[01:15] <Sacrafice> im sure it was a mistake but i would like to get bak in
[01:15] <Burgundavia> Sacrafice: lets move to a pm
[01:15] <Sacrafice> ok
[01:18] <ajmitch> morning
[01:19] <zul> evening
[01:19] <tomveens> night
[01:20] <bmonty> hi ajmitch
[01:25] <LaserJock> hi bmonty
[01:26] <zul> hey lj
[01:29] <LaserJock> hi zul
[01:31] <zul> how goes the battle?
[01:35] <LaserJock> well, trying to work on some Ubucon presentations
[01:35] <LaserJock> and I need to work on the transcript from my MOTU School sessions
[01:35] <LaserJock> :/
[01:36] <LaserJock> zul: how about you?
[01:50] <bmonty> ajmitch: are you using libnss-ldap on your system? if so, are you able to run vmware-player?
[01:50] <ajmitch> bmonty: I only use vmware server
[01:50] <ajmitch> but that's mainly on my desktop box
[01:51] <ajmitch> I'll try on the laptop with libnss-ldap
[01:51] <bmonty> ajmitch: is your desktop box using LDAP to store user info?
[01:51] <ajmitch> no
[01:51] <bmonty> oh ok, vmplayer won't work since the libs that vmware ships with their package don't do ldap
[01:51] <ajmitch> excellent
[01:51] <ajmitch> though that should be handled by libc
[01:52] <bmonty> ajmitch: you would think so, except that vmware ships their own copies of all the libs
[01:52] <ajmitch> quite annoying
[01:52] <bmonty> yes, very annoying
[01:53] <bmonty> yeah, except there isn't a package for server
[01:53] <ajmitch> that's true
[01:54] <ajmitch> back in a couple of hours or so
[01:54] <bmonty> bye
[01:56] <LaserJock> is vmware server free?
[01:56] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: in the beer sense, yes
[01:56] <bmonty> LaserJock: downloading it now :)
[01:56] <zul> afaik
[01:56] <zul> *ahem* xen
[01:56] <bmonty> I think you have a limited trial
[01:56] <bmonty> zul: only good for certain OSes
[01:57] <zul> oh you wanna do windows
[01:57] <bmonty> yup
[01:57] <bmonty> and others
[02:00] <TheMuso> What advantage does server have over player?
[02:01] <LaserJock> oh wow, they have a beta for OSX!
[02:03] <LaserJock> or will have
[02:03] <LaserJock> that would be great
[02:06] <LaserJock> I've been trying qemu and parallels on my iMac
[02:06] <LaserJock> but neither works real well
[02:07] <bmonty> I've been messing with the qemu package this afternoon and it is super slow
[02:07] <bmonty> since it doesn't install the kernel module
[02:14] <LaserJock> zul: is xen strictly working for Linux kernels? I wondered if Xen might be made to work on these intel Macs eventually
[02:21] <zul> LaserJock: what do you mean by strictly working?
[02:22] <LaserJock> zul: I mean, does it only work on Linux kernels
[02:22] <zul> yes
[02:24] <bmonty> zul: I thought it worked for any kernel as long as it understands xen, and that has been done for other OSes
[02:25] <zul> bmonty: i think in laserjock's case he wants to run an osx guest in xen
[02:26] <bmonty> zul: right, and he might not be able to do that, but I think he could run FreeBSD
[02:27] <zul> true..
[02:27] <LaserJock> you're guest and host need to have the same type of kernel?
[02:27] <LaserJock> *your
[02:28] <zul> no it doesnt
[02:28] <LaserJock> in the end, I'd love to be able to run Ubuntu virtuallized from OS X
[02:29] <zul> i dont xen has been ported to osx
[02:29] <LaserJock> as OS X probably should stay as the primary OS on this computer
[02:29] <LaserJock> but it's feasible? I just needs to be done?
[02:29] <zul> i think there is ppc port under way
[02:29] <LaserJock> I just wondered if there was a technological reason that Xen was only for Linux
[02:30] <LaserJock> yuck, who wants ppc ;-)
[02:30] <zul> ibm
[02:30] <LaserJock> sure sure
[02:31] <LaserJock> but I have no access to ppc really
[02:31] <LaserJock> :-)
[02:31] <zul> neither do i
[02:36] <LaserJock> ah, it seems there is a SoC project for getting Xen working on an intel mac
[02:52] <visik7> zul: are you chuck ?
[02:53] <zul> visik7: yep
[02:53] <visik7> I'm trying to backport xen-3.0 3.0.2+hg11127-7 but I've some problem with it
[02:53] <visik7> backport to dapper
[02:53] <visik7> cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-fno-stack-protector"
[02:53] <zul> remove the -fno-stack-protector from the Makefile
[02:53] <visik7> and this is strange 'couse plain xen recognize that gcc 4.0 of dapper hasn't that feature
[02:55] <visik7> shouldn't the makefile take care of it testing gcc ?
[02:55] <zul> because edgy has ssp and xen doesnt compile with -fno-stack-protector so just remove it from the Makefile
[02:56] <visik7> grepping inside the sources only ./xen/arch/x86/Rules.mk has something refer to -fno-stack-protector
[02:56] <visik7> ah in patches
[02:57] <visik7> ok works thanks
[02:57] <visik7> what is ssp ?
[03:00] <tseng> stack smashing protection
[03:00] <bmonty> ssp = stack smash protection
[03:00] <tseng> i gave a talk on it a fewy years back
[03:00] <tseng> but i dont think its online
[03:00] <tseng> but believe me, it was top notch
[03:01] <visik7> mmm
[03:14] <visik7> ok nor the sid version of xen-3.0 neither the edgy one build package cleanly on dapper
[03:56] <imbrandon> 
[03:58] <ajmitch> imbrandon: eloquently said
[03:58] <ajmitch> of course it shows up as a complete mess of characters here
[03:59] <imbrandon> heh , damn keymap messed up somehow
[04:01] <imbrandon> that started off as a alt+2 to changes windows in irssi
[04:01] <imbrandon> lol
[04:01] <ajmitch> impressive
[04:07] <bddebian> Heya gang
[04:08] <ajmitch> good day bddebian
[04:08] <bddebian> Heya ajmitch
[04:11] <bddebian> Hmm, what to do tonight
[04:11] <ajmitch> fix bugs
[04:15] <bddebian> ajmitch: I don't know how :-)
[04:22] <ajmitch> bddebian: you know I feel like ignoring you for the next week when you say such things
[04:22] <welshbyte> good _("evening")
[04:22] <bddebian> OK
[04:22] <Burgundavia> ajmitch: *grin*
[04:22] <bddebian> Heya welshbyte
[04:25] <welshbyte> i've just signed the CoC, do i get cake?
[04:30] <welshbyte> mmm virtual flavour :)
[04:31] <bddebian> Hehe, nice changelog entry:
[04:31] <bddebian>  * Recompile due to what might be the stupidest transition plan I have
[04:31] <bddebian>      ever seen in debian (Closes: #362693)
[04:32] <welshbyte> heh, what package?
[04:33] <bddebian> xlockmore
[05:03] <bddebian> Damn, why does it seem that all free RPG games stopped development in 2003? :-)
[05:18] <Hobbsee> hi all
[05:21] <TheMuso> Hey Hobbsee.
[05:21] <bddebian> Heya Hobbsee
[05:22] <Hawkwind> Hey Hobbsee
[05:22] <Hobbsee> :)
[05:23] <ajmitch> hello Hobbsee
[05:27] <imbrandon> heya everyone
[05:27] <Hawkwind> Hey there imbrandon
[05:28] <LaserJock> hi imbrandon
[05:28] <imbrandon> moins Hawkwind
[05:28] <imbrandon> ;)
[05:29] <bddebian> Hi imbrandon
[05:30] <imbrandon> heya bddebian and LaserJock
[05:30] <bddebian> Oh and Hi LaserJock
[05:34] <ajmitch> ah, LaserJock
[05:34] <Burgundavia> hey LaserJock
[05:40] <Hobbsee> oh crap
[05:40] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: forgot something?
[05:40] <Hobbsee> there's an assignment due in 2 days, and i'v eonly just found out about it.
[05:40] <ajmitch> ouch
[05:40] <TheMuso> That happened to me a few times, its a horrible feeling.
[05:40] <ajmitch> what's it on?
[05:40] <Hobbsee> physics
[05:41] <Hobbsee> and the lecturer is crap, so i understand nothing
[05:41] <ajmitch> what area of physics?
[05:41] <Hobbsee> waves, i think
[05:41] <ajmitch> ah
[05:42] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:42] <ajmitch> waves in 1st year physics should be fairly easy though
[05:42] <Hobbsee> true that
[05:43] <ajmitch> I'm sure enough people here can help you if you're stuck :)
[05:43] <imbrandon> james troup == elmo ?
[05:43] <ajmitch> yes
[05:43] <crimsun> (yes)
[05:43] <imbrandon> kk thanks
[05:43] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: good point.
[05:45] <ajmitch> I'm sure LaserJock has enough physics background to confuse us all
[05:45] <Hobbsee> true that
[05:45] <bddebian> heh
[05:46] <imbrandon> haha
[05:47] <imbrandon> whoohoo chineese spam
[05:47] <imbrandon> leaste if they want me to buy something sell it to me in english
[05:47] <Hobbsee> oh, so i'm not the only one who gets that...
[05:47] <ajmitch> heh
[05:47] <imbrandon> hehe Hobbsee i get alot of chineese and french spam, no idea why but MOST of my spam is french or chineese
[05:48] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:48] <imbrandon> this one sliped past spamassissan though lol
[05:49] <LaserJock> physics? did somebody say physics? :-)
[05:50] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: yes.  you can do my physics assignment and get it shipped to my by 5pm wednesday, if you want.
[05:50] <ajmitch> LaserJock: yes
[05:50] <ajmitch> LaserJock: Hobbsee will repay you with eternal gratitude
[05:50] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:50] <ajmitch> and the bite of her whip
[05:51] <LaserJock> depending on what exactly it is you might be better off doing it yourself
[05:51] <LaserJock> I haven't done general physics for  a long time
[05:52] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: show us the assignment
[05:52] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: it's questions from the textbook i'm afraid - i dont know of them being online
[05:52] <ajmitch> ah
[05:52] <ajmitch> you need a scanner :)
[05:53] <ajmitch> that's inconvenient
[05:53] <Hobbsee> flatbed scanners dont scan big books :P
[05:53] <ajmitch> page at a time
[05:54] <imbrandon> all 234235252342 of them ;)
[05:55] <ajmitch> only the ones with questions for the assignment..
[05:55] <Hobbsee> haha
[05:55] <imbrandon> ;)
[05:55] <Hobbsee> er, sorry.  not a flatbed scanner.  the other type that doesnt do books
[05:56] <ajmitch> page feed scanner?
[05:57] <Hobbsee> tht'a the one
[06:00] <imbrandon> hahah LaserJock those pics of IE on your blog are priceless
[06:01] <Burgundavia> imbrandon: link?
[06:01] <imbrandon> http://laserjock.wordpress.com/
[06:02] <imbrandon> " Forget it , I'll just watch TV " <---- heh we need one of those buttons in our errors LOL
[06:02] <LaserJock> hehe
[06:04] <Hobbsee> hahaha...now that would be fun
[06:04] <imbrandon> esp if it made MythTV pop up ;)
[06:05] <imbrandon> ohhh more storms outside , glad i put everything on UPS's the other day ( watch the power go out for longer than the bateries last now )
[06:42] <bddebian> Gnight folks
[09:03] <lifeless> hey whos around ?
[09:03] <lifeless> I've a new package, and its my first python-support one
[09:03] <Hobbsee> lifeless: i'm not around.
[09:03] <lifeless> so I'd like someone to do a revu before I upload it
[09:03] <Hobbsee> okay, i'm definetly not around then.
[09:03] <lifeless> heh
[09:04] <lifeless> ajmitch: ?
[09:05] <Hobbsee> lifeless: you're trying to stab a brick wall.   it's not working.
[09:06] <Hobbsee> lifeless: is it main or universe?
[09:06] <lifeless> universe, I can't upload straight to main, nor has it had a main inclusion report done ;)
[09:09] <Hobbsee> lifeless: point.  i'd subscribe either of the groups listed in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019922.html asking them to check it out for you
[09:10] <imbrandon> lifeless: did you upload to revu already ?
[09:11] <lifeless> I'm not looking for sponsors
[09:11] <lifeless> Hobbsee: I'm a MOTU, this is just extra surety
[09:11] <imbrandon> just someone to eyeball it
[09:11] <lifeless> imbrandon: no, I haven't
[09:11] <Hobbsee> lifeless: i realise that, but you could ask them to look through and see if it's right.
[09:11] <Gloubiboulga> lifeless, I can have a look
[09:11] <Hobbsee> lifeless: then i suggest you say that in a bug report?
[09:11] <Hobbsee> ah, there you go
[09:11] <lifeless> imbrandon: I've never used REVU, so I doubt my key is there
[09:11] <imbrandon> ahh got it somewhere "accessable" hehe me and Gloubiboulga can look it over heheh
[09:11] <Hobbsee> lifeless: basically, that's for "if it cant be done over irc, or email, or in real time, use that"
[09:12] <lifeless> Hobbsee: oh sure. though actually my fallback would be kinda different
[09:12] <Hobbsee> lifeless: true
[09:12] <lifeless> ok, let me put it on people
[09:12] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: thats what revu's for , those are for sponsors ;) hehehe
[09:12] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: no...that's just a random place to throw stuff :P
[09:12] <lifeless> I just need to make an artificial upstream tarball one, sec
[09:13] <imbrandon> revu == place for new packages , LP teams == seeking sponsors
[09:46] <lifeless> imbrandon: Gloubiboulga: sorry for the delay
[09:46] <lifeless> ELOCAL
[09:46] <cbx33> Hi all, If I want a topic to be discussed at the CC meeting thisafternoon am I allowed to edit the wiki?
[09:47] <lifeless> its up at http://people.ubuntu.com/tickcount
[09:48] <imbrandon> lifeless: 404
[09:48] <lifeless> http://people.ubuntu.com/~robertc/tickcount/
[09:48] <imbrandon> ;)
[09:53] <Toadstool> 'morning everybody
[09:53] <imbrandon> lifeless: other than the obvious versioning for edgy looks ok to me
[09:53] <imbrandon> moins Toadstool
[09:53] <Toadstool> hi imbrandon
[09:54] <allee> cbx33: IMHO yes
[09:56] <zakame> lifeless: need a motu?
[09:56] <imbrandon> he just wanted some other eyeballs to look at that package before he uploaded
[09:56] <imbrandon> zakame: ^^
[09:56] <lifeless> zakame: am a motu :)
[09:57] <zakame> ah, /me checks
[09:57] <lifeless> imbrandon: by obvious you mean an ubuntu0 marker ?
[09:57] <Toadstool> lifeless: did you put tickcount_0.1-1.dsc in the package on purpose? :)
[09:57] <lifeless> Toadstool: hmmm, good catch
[09:57] <imbrandon> lifeless: yea the ubuntu0 and edgy dist target
[09:58] <imbrandon> err ubuntu1
[09:58] <lifeless> I thought ubuntuX was only needed if the package was different ?
[09:58] <zakame> hmm version 1
[09:58] <lifeless>  - and this is not different, and not in debian at the moment anyway
[09:58] <imbrandon> yea if its exactly the same ( ie sync ) it dont need it
[09:59] <zakame> it would be safe to use 0ubuntu1 though
[09:59] <imbrandon> if its not in debian then it needs -0ubuntu1
[09:59] <lifeless> right. so its not in debian cause I haven't filed a ITP yet
[09:59] <lifeless> being a little slack
[09:59] <lifeless> ok, ubuntu 0 and a changelog dist change
[09:59] <lifeless> thanks gents
[09:59] <imbrandon> ie tickcount_0.1-0ubuntu1 , then when it gets in debian sync 0.1-1
[10:00] <imbrandon> hehe
[10:00] <zakame> great
[10:03] <ajmitch> lifeless: you were looking for me?
[10:04] <lifeless> nah, see above
[10:04] <lifeless> thanks though
[10:04] <ajmitch> ok
[10:05] <ajmitch> lifeless: if you haven't uploaded already, there's still 1 or 2 things..
[10:05] <lifeless> I have, but thats what multiple uploads are for
[10:06] <ajmitch> just debhelper version in Build-Depends
[10:06] <ajmitch> should be >= 5.0.37.2
[10:06] <lifeless> doh
[10:06] <lifeless> ok
[10:06] <lifeless> if it bounces, I'll fix it :)
[10:06] <ajmitch> won't make a difference
[10:07] <ajmitch> mainly an indication if it was going to be backported
[10:07] <lifeless> yeah
[10:07] <lifeless> I've fix it locally
[10:07] <lifeless> will get fully fixed when I upload 0.1-1 to debian
[10:07] <lifeless> brb
[11:58] <imbrandon> why would i get this http://pastebin.ca/131088
[11:58] <ajmitch> imbrandon: simple - libxft is the source package
[11:58] <ajmitch> apt-cache showsrc libxft
[11:58] <ajmitch> Binary: libxft-dev, libxft2, libxft2-dbg
[11:59] <imbrandon> ahh
[11:59] <ajmitch> you want one of them
[12:00] <imbrandon> is there a progmatic way to check if all its dependancies are in main easy ?
[12:01] <imbrandon> or would sometihn like apt-cache madison libfontconfig1-dev libfreetype6-dev x11proto-core-dev libx11-dev libxrender-dev zlib1g-dev|grep universe
[12:01] <imbrandon> work just as well
[12:02] <ajmitch> germinate is the correct way
[12:02] <ajmitch> since you have to check the dependencies down the chain, not just direct ones
[12:02] <ajmitch> it's not really intended for direct commandline use though :)
[12:03] <imbrandon> right , ok yea i'm doing a main incl report for , ipodslave and i found two of its deps in universe
[12:03] <ajmitch> and so there's probably a better way
[12:03] <imbrandon> so i';m trying to check those down the line too
[12:03] <ajmitch> right
[12:03] <imbrandon> but if all its deps are in main they cant depend on someinth g in universe can they ?
[12:04] <imbrandon> so that SHOULD work ?
[12:05] <ajmitch> yes
[12:55] <ajmitch> imbrandon: is there a good reason why you want libxft in main?
[12:55] <imbrandon> no, i figured out i was wrong looking at something
[12:55] <ajmitch> do 'apt-cache madison libxft2'
[12:55] <imbrandon> its not neeeded
[12:55] <ajmitch> right :)
[12:55] <imbrandon> yea i realized that later heheh
[12:56] <ajmitch> removed the wiki page?
[12:56] <imbrandon> yup
[12:56] <ajmitch> ok
[02:46] <geser> hello
[02:46] <geser> does pbuilder use an other shell than bash?
[03:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, great and wise motu - i tried putting the 'long text' into a packages controll file, and i get "debian/control at line 12: line with unknown format (not field-colon-value)" back. is there something special i need to do to get a multiline comment in that file?
[03:31] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: use tabs, not spaces?
[03:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee, i'll give it a shot.
[03:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> tabs where :S
[03:32] <Hobbsee> beginning of the lines that you're wanting to indent
[03:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> i just hit enter - htere isnt a space there. perhaps indent... *tires*
[03:32] <neutrinomass> Could someone more knowledgable check if passivetex should be removed from universe? It has already been removed from testing ( debian bug 337436 - although it is still in unstable) and has several serious bugs (listed in the bug report - append bug 25010 to those )
[03:32] <Ubugtu> Debian bug 337436 in passivetex "passivetex: destroys local configuration" [Serious,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/337436
[03:32] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 25010 in passivetex "passivetex: destroys local configuration" [Unknown,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/25010
[03:33] <neutrinomass> (Bah sorry, tis the same bug - imported from debian )
[03:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee, ah, needed to indent the lines... thanks
[03:34] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: :)
[03:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[03:35] <Hobbsee> neutrinomass: see apt-cache rdepends passivetex.  fix all of them first.
[03:37] <neutrinomass> Hobbsee: No Depends, only Suggests and Recommends - the debian bug lists a build dependency with gstreamer0.8 which has been sorted out (turned out that it could be simply dropped)
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> grr.
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> (hi ogra )
[03:37] <neutrinomass> It's considered an RC bug by debian ... that's why they removed it
[03:38] <Hobbsee> neutrinomass: right
[03:38] <Hobbsee> hi ogra
[03:39] <neutrinomass> Release Critical
[03:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee, 'zomg thats bad' ;)
[03:40] <neutrinomass> They said that it actually contains 2 RC bugs and apparently the debian developer no longer maintains it (they've been open for years )
[03:41] <neutrinomass> I'm in no position to take decisions over this but I thought I should draw attention to it ....
[03:41] <Hobbsee> ah
[04:47] <Sp4rKy> hi
[04:47] <Sp4rKy> please what lib need i add to debian/control for opengl support ?
[04:56] <sladen> Sp4rKy: libgl-dev
[04:56] <sladen> Sp4rKy: in the build-dep
[04:56] <Sp4rKy> thx
[04:56] <sladen> Sp4rKy: the dependancy on gl should be put there by the shlibs magic
[04:57] <Sp4rKy> k
[04:57] <Sp4rKy> thx
[05:02] <ZuZuu> je voudrais savoir comment on docmpress par la console un fichier .rar et .ace
[05:02] <ZuZuu> merci
[05:03] <Sp4rKy> ZuZuu, isn't it an english room here  ?
[05:03] <Sp4rKy> !fr
[05:03] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:04] <zul> ZuZuu: apt-get install rar
[05:24] <phanatic> afternoon
[05:44] <bddebian> Heya gang
[05:45] <cbx33> hi bddebian
[05:45] <bddebian> Heya cbx33
[05:45] <cbx33> hehehe
[06:05] <Sp4rKy_> checking whether QTDIR environment variable is set... no
[06:05] <Sp4rKy_> configure: error: QTDIR must be properly set.
[06:05] <Sp4rKy_> what could i do
[06:06] <Sp4rKy_> i've wrote "export QTDIR=/usr/include/qt3" in debian/rules
[06:06] <Sp4rKy_> and added  libqt3-mt-dev to debian/control
[06:11] <lfittl> bddebian: about attal, still had no time for the cleanup and debian upload, sry, just had an awful lot of stuff to do the last weeks, upload it to ubuntu if you want to have it done now ;)
[06:12] <bddebian> lfittl: Well I'd like someone to at least look it over first..
[06:12] <bddebian> Heya LaserJock
[06:12] <cbx33> hi LaserJock
[06:12] <lloydinho> hey LaserJock,
[06:12] <lfittl> bddebian: k, I promise I will look at it some time this week, really
[06:12] <bddebian> Suuure.. ;-)
[06:12] <lfittl> :P
[06:12] <slomo> crimsun: did you get everything finished for snd-ymfpci and have something to test for me?
[06:13] <bddebian> slomo: Get someone to get libieXXX out of new, so I can look at mythtv* will ya? ;-P
[06:13] <LaserJock> hi bddebian cbx33 and lloydinho
[06:14] <slomo> bddebian: gst-plugins-good is waiting on it too, don't worry :)
[06:14] <lloydinho> LaserJock: come cheer on me for the Community Council meeting, please? :-)
[06:14] <slomo> bddebian: pitti is already (will soon be) looking at the MIR for it, etc ;)
[06:14] <lloydinho> I'll let you know when I'm up if you're busy..
[06:14] <LaserJock> lloydinho: when is that?
[06:14] <bddebian> slomo: Cool thx
[06:14] <bddebian> LaserJock: Right now ;-)
[06:14] <LaserJock> oh
[06:14] <lloydinho> LaserJock: it is on now! :-)
[06:56] <Sp4rKy> please does anyone could help me
[06:56] <Sp4rKy> what can i do when i've "checking whether QTDIR environment variable is set... no" during pbuilding
[06:57] <LaserJock> do you have QT build deps?
[06:59] <Sp4rKy> i've added libqt-mt-dev
[07:57] <crimsun> slomo: no, $work atm.
[08:08] <neutrinomass> can stuff in universe depend on stuff in multiverse ? bug 56358
[08:08] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56358 in comix "Missing unrar from dependencies" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/56358
[08:11] <crimsun> no, I've already rejected it.
[08:11] <neutrinomass> ok, thanks
[08:45] <Sp4rKy> LaserJock, any idea ?
[08:45] <LaserJock> hmm, not sure
[08:45] <LaserJock> you might ask kubuntu-devel though as I'm not sure
[08:46] <Sp4rKy> k
[09:51] <Sp4rKy> E: Couldn't find package libjack0.100.0-dev
[09:51] <Sp4rKy> W: Unable to locate package libjack0.100.0-dev
[09:51] <Sp4rKy> ...
[10:06] <geser> libjack0.100.0-dev |  0.101.1-1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages
[10:07] <Sp4rKy> yes i know
[10:07] <Sp4rKy> but my pbuilder doesn't
[10:08] <geser> sudo pbuilder update --override-config --othermirror "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe"
[10:09] <Sp4rKy> k
[10:23] <bddebian> crimsun: Around?
[10:23] <bddebian> or ajmitch
[10:24] <Sp4rKy> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:24] <Sp4rKy>   libjack0.100.0-dev: Depends: libjack0.100.0-0 (= 0.101.1-1) but it is not going to be installed
[10:24] <Sp4rKy> E: Broken packages
[10:24] <Sp4rKy> E: Could not satisfy build-dependency.
[10:24] <Sp4rKy> E: pbuilder-satisfydepends failed.
[10:24] <Sp4rKy> new error
[10:25] <bddebian> Works For Me(TM)
[10:27] <crimsun> $ grep -i ^components ~/.pbuilderrc
[10:27] <crimsun> COMPONENTS="main restricted universe multiverse"
[10:27] <crimsun> pbuilder update --override-config
[10:29] <Sp4rKy> Sp4rKY-laptop%  grep -i ^components ~/.pbuilderrc
[10:29] <Sp4rKy> COMPONENTS="main restricted universe multiverse"
[10:29] <crimsun> $ dpkg --print-architecture
[10:29] <Sp4rKy> i'd forgot --override-config , maybe ...
[10:30] <crimsun> you _must_ use --override-config
[10:30] <Sp4rKy> k
[10:30] <Sp4rKy> i'm doing
[10:32] <ajmitch> bddebian: yes?
[10:32] <bddebian> ajmitch: When would a package not have an orig.tar.gz?
[10:33] <ajmitch> when it's a native package
[10:33] <bddebian> Aye, native meaning it was written just for Ubuntu?
[10:34] <ajmitch> or debian
[10:34] <bddebian> Right
[10:34] <bddebian> Thx
[10:34] <ajmitch> ie, don't do it without a real good reason
[10:34] <ajmitch> why are you asking?
[10:34] <bddebian> ajmitch: Nah, I'm looking at more REVU packages
[10:35] <ajmitch> ok
[10:57] <Sp4rKy> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:57] <Sp4rKy>   libjack0.100.0-dev: Depends: libjack0.100.0-0 (= 0.101.1-1) but it is not going to be installed
[10:57] <Sp4rKy> E: Broken packages
[10:57] <Sp4rKy> E: Could not satisfy build-dependency.
[10:57] <Sp4rKy> E: pbuilder-satisfydepends failed.
[10:57] <Sp4rKy> bddebian,
[10:57] <Sp4rKy> always the same error
[10:57] <Sp4rKy> after my pbuider update --overide-config
[10:57] <Sp4rKy> +r
[11:00] <plugwash> normally the way to debug theese problems is to specify the package it says is not going to be installed on the command line along with the ones you originally specified
[11:00] <plugwash> that then changes the error message
[11:00] <plugwash> not sure how you could do that in a pbuilder though
[11:00] <crimsun> Sp4rKy: ``pbuilder login'', then ``apt-cache policy libjack0.100.0-0''
[11:02] <Sp4rKy> libjack0.100.0-0:
[11:02] <Sp4rKy>   Installed: (none)
[11:02] <Sp4rKy>   Candidate: 0.101.1-1
[11:02] <Sp4rKy>   Version table:
[11:02] <Sp4rKy>      0.101.1-1 0
[11:02] <Sp4rKy>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages
[11:03] <geser> and when you try to install libjack0.100.0-0 ?
[11:03] <crimsun> and for libjack0.100.0-dev?
[11:04] <Sp4rKy> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:04] <Sp4rKy>   libjack0.100.0-0: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4-1) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is to be installed
[11:04] <geser> doesn't this "...but it is not going to be installed" normally point to an error further down the depends?
[11:04] <geser> is your puilder dapper or edgy?
[11:04] <Sp4rKy> edgy
[11:04] <Sp4rKy> i have to sleep
[11:04] <Sp4rKy> i come back tomorrow
[11:05] <bddebian> Gnight Sp4rKy
[11:05] <Sp4rKy> thx for your help
[11:05] <Sp4rKy> thx bddebian
[11:05] <bddebian> No, Thank YOU :-)
[11:05] <Sp4rKy> :D
[11:05] <plugwash> geser yes it does, so you have to trace down the dependency chain until you find the real problem
[11:05] <plugwash> and afaict the easiest way to do that is to try to install each package in the chain as apt reports it
[11:06] <crimsun> To what package was Sp4rKy referring?
[11:06] <crimsun> [source] 
[11:07] <geser> I don't know which package he was trying to build
[11:08] <geser> I looks like his pbuilder is a mix between dapper and edgy
[11:08] <ajmitch> looks like he needed to do pbuilder upgrade
[11:09] <crimsun> heh, I assumed he was doing that.
[11:09] <crimsun> (so much for assuming)
[11:10] <bddebian> :-)
[11:11] <bddebian> djplay apparently
[11:21] <bddebian> wb LaserJock :-)
[11:21] <LaserJock> hi bddebian
[11:23] <bddebian> Time to head home, later gang
[11:23] <LaserJock> cya bddebian
[11:24] <bddebian> :-)
[11:35] <Lutin> Hey
[11:35] <LaserJock> hi
[11:36] <Lutin> I have that message when compiling a package : /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lX11
[11:36] <Lutin> do you know what is the missing lib ?
[11:37] <crimsun> libX11-dev, for starters.
[11:37] <LaserJock> thats the xorg dev
[11:37] <crimsun> sorry, libx11-dev
[11:40] <Lutin> ok, thanks
[11:49] <zul> hey
[11:49] <LaserJock> hi zul
[11:50] <zul> hey lj how goes it?
[11:50] <ajmitch> hi zul
[11:51] <LaserJock> zul: it's going
[11:51] <zul> good good
[11:52] <LaserJock> I'm trying to figure out a reply to "Why in the world doesn't this bug have an assignee?"
[11:52] <LaserJock> :-)
[11:53] <zul> because no one cares? :)
[11:53] <cbx33> which bug LaserJock ?
[11:54] <LaserJock> Bug #43150
[11:54] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 43150 in wxmaxima "wxmaxima fails with error, can't connect to maxima" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/43150
[11:54] <zul> ah yeah i remember seing that oone
[11:54] <LaserJock> the problem is that people can pretty easily fix it for them
[11:55] <LaserJock> but I'm not sure why the bug even exists and how to go about fixing it
[11:56] <zul> i dont use the software so i might end up breaking it
[11:59] <LaserJock> zul: well it's interesting because it works fine in Debian
[11:59] <zul> library issue?
[12:01] <LaserJock> I don't know
[12:01] <LaserJock> I don't even know how to tell
[12:01] <LaserJock> maxima opens a port for GUIs to connect to
[12:01] <LaserJock> in Debian it works
[12:01] <LaserJock> in Ubuntu it can't connect
[12:02] <LaserJock> apparently recompiling using a different LISP compiler works
[12:02] <LaserJock> and I think somebody even mentioned that maybe recompiling using the same LISP compiler works
[12:02] <LaserJock> not sure
[12:03] <LaserJock> but we haven't touched the package or the compiler
[12:03] <zul> ick lisp :)
[12:03] <LaserJock> yes, the language of champions
[12:04] <zul> heh...