[12:00] <killdashnine> |thunder: not entirely true, /var/tmp is usually free for users to mess with as well
[12:00] <evan_w00> |thunder how could i gain access to root?
[12:01] <Warbo> evan_w00: They can change anything they have permission for (maybe USB drives, etc.), but using "sudo" gives you permission to do ANYTHING (which is why you don't use it all of the time)
[12:01] <rictoo_> Helllo =)
[12:01] <rictoo_> I am having an EXTREMELY STRANGE prioblem
[12:01] <kharcore> hi
[12:01] <evan_w00> Warbo oh ok
[12:01] <|thunder> evan 'sudo command'
[12:01] <rictoo_> ok
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> evan_w00,  thats why linux is secure by design. :P ya got to sudo to do su things. :P
[12:01] <ardchoille> !sudo > evan_w00
[12:01] <kharcore> where are ubuntu repositories at?
[12:01] <evan_w00> Dr_Willis lol ok
[12:01] <tamale> ardchoille:  What next?  Sources is backed up
[12:01] <rictoo_> I whanan run an sh file (it IS there) but it says sh: setup.sh: No such file or directory
[12:01] <TheGateKeeper> sobieski: I use KDE so unlikely
[12:01] <kharcore> I am looking for qingy.deb ir something
[12:01] <Warbo> archive.ubuntu.com
[12:01] <rictoo_> I whanna run an sh file (it IS there) but it says sh: setup.sh: No such file or directory
[12:01] <utab> is there a way to change the color of the messages written for me
[12:01] <sobieski> TheGateKeeper: ah, k thx anyway
[12:01] <existance> The mic on my headset isn't working with 'Sound Recorder' could someone direct me to some resources to fix it?
[12:02] <evan_w00> Dr_Willis hmmm, whats the default root password?
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> Rictoo_ run it frim the shell. sh whatever.sh
[12:02] <|thunder> Rictoo, put a ./ in front of theh file
[12:02] <kharcore> anyone?
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> evan_w00,  and thats Faq #1 - :P there is no default.. sudo is set to use that first USERS password.
[12:02] <utab> sethk yes I am all ears
[12:02] <existance> Is there a package that will let me view a sound file as sound waves (e.g. an oscillogram)?
[12:02] <rictoo_> Dr_Willis: Of course I did
[12:02] <ardchoille> tamale: Are you editing xorg.conf? If so, I recommend using this command:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  <-- but, be advised that will ask a lot fo questions, it's what I always use and has never failed me.
[12:02] <rictoo_> Dr_Willis: Of course I did
[12:02] <kharcore> Ubuntu repositories I am looking for qingy
[12:02] <sobieski> Can anyone tell me what the "Multimedia Systems Selector" icon looks like?
[12:02] <|thunder> existance, you check volume panel ?
[12:02] <Warbo> repositories are at archive.ubuntu.com, but you can get a web-based package search at packages.ubuntu.com
[12:02] <rictoo_> I ran it from terminal
[12:02] <rictoo_> Isnt it the same?
[12:02] <killdashnine> i have tried to get samba to work on other distributions with the latest version and samba works fine without segfaulting. the reason i suspect something is up is that it worked with breezy badger but with dapper drake it segfaults
[12:02] <evan_w00> Dr_Willis oh ok, oh geez lol, guess i have a big problem now :)
[12:02] <killdashnine> has anyone encountered this before?
[12:03] <Ropechoborra> red|rain When the install is done.. what do i got to do to change from gnome to xfce ?
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> check the script.. it may be trying to run somthing ya dont have.
[12:03] <tamale> ardchoille:  Ok, we'll give it a shot
[12:03] <existance> |thunder, well, it was muted, but it still doesn't work :/
[12:03] <sobieski> please?
[12:03] <red|rain> Ropechoborra, log out and on the bottem left of your screen you'll see "Sessions" just select XFCE from the list :)
[12:03] <|thunder> existance, is it selected as the input ?
[12:03] <Sola6662> is there a way to restore what i done in Xorg xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[12:03] <Sola6662>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20060813164209
[12:04] <Ropechoborra> red|rain ok thanks! :)
[12:04] <red|rain> Ropechoborra, np :D
[12:04] <existance> |thunder, Microphone is, but I don't know where it is getting what it is assigning as Microphone
[12:04] <sobieski> need help, what does the "Multimedia Systems Selector" icon look like? Please
[12:04] <kharcore> where may I find ubuntu repositories?
[12:04] <utab> sethk I have installed kubuntu 6.06 on a desktop and did not have any problems like this
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> !sound
[12:04] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:04] <kharcore> I am looking for qingy package
[12:04] <kharcore> thanks
[12:04] <TheGateKeeper> sobieski: we have "Sound & Multimedia", where you can enable sound and fiddle with other related settings, never really bothered with it except the "Test Sound" button when I first installed stuff
[12:04] <ardchoille> !easysource > kharcore
[12:05] <Warbo> kharcore: Look up, I told you the official ones. For third-party ones, probably use google
[12:05] <sethk> utab, something is wrong here.  when I download the file manually and uncompress it, I get a zero length file.  I don't believe that should ever happen.
[12:05] <utab> TheGateKeeper I have an upgrade problem
[12:05] <sobieski> ok
[12:05] <utab> sethk so the problem is not related with me
[12:06] <utab> sethk is not that strange?
[12:07] <sethk> utab, it is strange, yes.  It might be related to you in the sense that somehow a bad URL got into your dpkg data files, but I don't know how that happened.
[12:07] <existance> how do I figure out what device my microphone is mapped to?
[12:07] <utab> sethk is there a way to fix that
[12:07] <sethk> utab, when I download manually, however, I don't get the gunzip or bunzip2 errors.
[12:07] <Warbo> existance: /dev/dsp? (That would probably use OSS emulation)
[12:07] <sethk> utab, I'm looking.  There is; the question is do I know it.  :)
[12:08] <existance> Warbo, and how do I tell if it's actually mounted there?
[12:08] <TheGateKeeper> utab: breezy to dapper??
[12:08] <utab> TheGateKeeper :yes
[12:08] <sethk> utab, if you repeat, do you get exacty the same results?  that is, do you get the same list of failure URLs at the end?  If you aren't sure, repeat it and check.
[12:08] <HellDragon> :o
[12:08] <sethk> brb
[12:08] <utab> TheGateKeeper : but nearly for two hours I am trying to solve my problem
[12:08] <lmosher> Anyone here make video DVDs, if so what prog do you use to author?
[12:08] <evan_w00> what are "Make files?" Instructions?
[12:09] <Warbo> existance: Well, devices are not really mounted to device nodes. OSS maps /dev/dsp to the whole soundcard though, so something like Audacity would always show up as using /dev/dsp, just because of the sound output, so it would be hard to diferentiate the microphone
[12:09] <utab> sethk : I will and notify you
[12:09] <TheGateKeeper> utab: what does this return? --> cat /etc/issue
[12:09] <lmosher> evan_w00, 'make' files tell a compiler which files to compile when you're building from source.
[12:09] <evan_w00> lmosher oh ok
[12:09] <existance> Warbo, my microphone doesn't seem to work and I'm trying to figure out why :D
[12:10] <Warbo> existance: Neither does mine, but I think that is because I built my PC when I was drunk :)
[12:10] <existance> Warbo, mmm.. might do it.  Mine works in windows though, so it should be fine.
[12:10] <kyja> help please if you can: My laptop shuts down about 10 minutes after screen saver on power and it is not set to do that in power managment.
[12:10] <Jamie> how do i unrar rar files in linux?
[12:11] <utab> TheGateKeeper :Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[12:11] <kyja> er I think I know
[12:11] <Warbo> I just have a problem with front-panel connectors I think. Speakers come out of the front, but microphone doesn't come out of anywhere
[12:11] <utab> sethk : not exactly the same
[12:11] <kyja> and is not ubuntu falt
[12:11] <kyja> screen saver takes all 3.4ghz proccess
[12:11] <kyja> over heats
[12:11] <kyja> :/
[12:11] <tamale> ardchoille:  Do I want dri?
[12:11] <sobieski> I haven't got "Multimedia Systems Selector" under  System > Preferences??
[12:12] <Warbo> kyja: Maybe turn off 3D screensavers, or just make the screen blank?
[12:12] <tamale> ardchoille:  More specifically, what modules do i want to turn on?
[12:12] <kyja> yeah I will cut doen on the domand I guess.
[12:12] <Sanne> !rar > Jamie
[12:12] <utab> sethk some are the same but it is too confusing
[12:12] <Jamie> Sanne: !rar filename.rar?
[12:12] <TheGateKeeper> utab: I have seen some of the sources.list you have been posting and you need to reset them back to breezy, then do apt-get install update manager, then press the upgrade button and it will all hopefully sort itself out
[12:13] <sobieski> !multimedia > sobieski
[12:13] <kyja> what would happen if I adjust nice on screen saver?
[12:13] <rictoo__> how do I unmount an iso?
[12:13] <Warbo> kyja: For what it's worth xscreensaver lets you select which screensavers to use on random mode (gnome screensaver doesn't)
[12:13] <kyja> =] 
[12:13] <kyja> thx
[12:13] <utab> TheGateKeeper : which ones
[12:13] <Warbo> rictoo__: "sudo umount /wherever/the/iso/is/mounted"
[12:13] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all .. weirdness going down on my server .. When I attempt anything sudo it asks for password then goes to a new line .. nothing happens, no errors, nothing .. just sudo apt-get update>password>next line .. help?
[12:14] <tamale> can anyone help my choose the right xorg server modules in dpkg-configure  x-server-xorg  ?
[12:14] <Sanne> Jamie: oops, this command should have sent you a message from the bit, ubotu. Can you see it?
[12:14] <Sanne> bot
[12:14] <Spiller> hey guys, how do I change the default sender (www-data) when mail is send from a php script? (I'd like to be info@domain instead of www-data@domain) it's a default postfix configuration
[12:14] <utab> TheGateKeeper : all back to brezzy
[12:14] <Warbo> NineTeen67Comet: Are you the first user on the machine?
[12:14] <daishi_> i love this distro...sure i could be running slack or debian on my laptop but i set up ubuntu and it was the easiest linux install i have ever done...few problems that i had to fix but stuff that wasnt the fault of ubuntu (problematic DSDTs with acpi and such)
[12:14] <NineTeen67Comet> Warbo: Yeah .. but I have since added users .. some with sudo in their group .. that do it?
[12:14] <killdashnine> Spiller: Your best bet on that is ##php
[12:14] <existance> Could someone help me get my mic working?
[12:14] <will_> hopefully the fglrx drivers in the repos
[12:14] <will_> will get this compiz working right
[12:14] <Jamie> Sanne: yes i see it now
[12:15] <Warbo> NineTeen67Comet: I was just wondering if you are in the "admin" group
[12:15] <Sanne> Jamie: ah, fine :)
[12:15] <NineTeen67Comet> lemme check ..
[12:15] <TheGateKeeper> sethk: utab has breezy currently installed and I think his sources.list are all to hell, can you get him to reset them to the standard breezy ones, then get him to use update-manager to upgrade plz, way past my bed time :-)
[12:15] <sycho> how can I fix archives using par and par2 files in ubuntu?
[12:16] <NineTeen67Comet> Warbo:  nope .. I wasn't in the admin .. am now .. lemme check ..
[12:16] <will_> hmm
[12:16] <NineTeen67Comet> Warbo: thank you much .. that did it ..
[12:16] <Sacrafice> could someone pm me, i am new to linux
[12:16] <Warbo> NineTeen67Comet: No problem :)
[12:16] <Fenstalap> anyone got xgl running on a intel 855m chipset?
[12:17] <existance> Could someone help me get my mic working?
[12:17] <lasindi> Hi all, I just compiled a program and a library it depends on from source, and by default it installs in /usr/local. However, when I try to run the program it complains that it can't find the file. If I move the library to /usr/lib, it will run. Is there a way I can make ubuntu look in /usr/local/lib for libraries?
[12:17] <TheGateKeeper> utab: if you have a backup reinstate it otherwise you need to get that standard ones of the ubuntu wiki site, not sure where they are. I have got to go now 11:16pm and I have to get up in the morning, will probable be back tomorrow
[12:17] <__mikem> Warbo, this thing is taking forever
[12:17] <utab> TheGateKeeper : can you repeat
[12:17] <BHSPitMonkey> So if I have a bunch of .deb's, can I put them on a CD, and turn them into a CD "repository"?
[12:17] <TheGateKeeper> utab: repeat what?
[12:18] <Sanne> lasindi: your system needs to know about the new libs, lemme find the command for you, sec
[12:18] <utab> TheGateKeeper : I have changed breezy stuff
[12:18] <Warbo> __mikem: I am trying to convert as many of my movies as possible to OGG and it's taking ages. It's definetly worth it for MPEG though, because it saves loads of space
[12:18] <utab> sethk I may try to find that later it is late for me
[12:19] <utab> sethk thanks for the help
[12:19] <Sanne> lasindi: I think you need to run "sudo ldconfig", but read "man ldconfig" first to be sure.
[12:19] <sobieski> any way i can enable my Creative Labs Soundblaster X-Fi Xtreme Music
[12:19] <lasindi> Sanne: no, that already didn't work
[12:19] <sobieski> i cant find it
[12:19] <TheGateKeeper> utab: sudo apt-get update then install update-manager and go from there
[12:19] <Johnny> Hi, I downloaded the virtual machine of Ubuntu, it doesn't seem to have come with a root account, so I can't do certain things, how do I make a root account?
[12:19] <Warbo> !root > Johnny
[12:19] <utab> TheGateKeeper I tried that it failed
[12:20] <TheGateKeeper> utab: if you get help from others tell them you are currently using breezy
[12:20] <Johnny> Warbo, >_>
[12:20] <LinuxHelp> Hi, when I login from my WinXP to my Linux 2.6.17 via samba as myself and then create a file in my home directory, it is owned by root, instead of me! dont you think thats annoying?
[12:20] <Johnny> I didn't ask what sudo was.
[12:20] <Johnny> I didn't ask what root was.
[12:20] <t> anyone know how to take down gnome so i can install the NVIDIA drivers?
[12:20] <BHSPitMonkey> never mind
[12:20] <kyja> vertual machine ???????????//
[12:20] <Warbo> Johnny: There is no root. Use sudo
[12:20] <Johnny> hmm
[12:21] <t> I normally do init 3.. but that doesnt work
[12:21] <TheGateKeeper> utab: you need to get the correct source.list from the ubuntu wiki site!!
[12:21] <Sacrafice> where can i get ubuntu live cd/
[12:21] <Sanne> lasindi: oh. If you do a "ldd <programname>", you will see what libs the program expects, maybe that helps to debug the problem?
[12:21] <plur> hello
[12:21] <Sacrafice> !ubuntu live cd
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu live cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <existance> Could someone help me get my mic working?
[12:21] <Warbo> Johnny: "sudo -s -H", "sudo su", "sudo bash", "sudo -i" and probably a few more command will get a root shell though
[12:21] <t> anyone know how to take down X? init 3 doesn't seem to work?
[12:21] <utab> TheGateKeeper I tried that but it did not fix my problem
[12:22] <Warbo> t: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:22] <dave18719> !botnsack
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botnsack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <Johnny> Warbo, I use sudo
[12:22] <Johnny> But it asks for a password
[12:22] <dave18719> !botsnack
[12:22] <Johnny> What should I enter?
[12:22] <ubotu> Yum!
[12:22] <utab> TheGateKeeper can you give the URL again
[12:22] <Johnny> oh
[12:22] <Warbo> Johnny: Your user passworde
[12:22] <Johnny> dont worry
[12:22] <Johnny> sorted
[12:22] <Johnny> yeah
[12:22] <Johnny> Thanks
[12:22] <kyja> you dont know password?
[12:22] <Johnny> Nah, its okay
[12:22] <utab> TheGateKeeper anyway it is already late for me also
[12:23] <Johnny> Warbo, however, why am I allowed to run root stuff if I am just a user?
[12:23] <Sanne> lasindi: sometimes a program reacts to the enviroment variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH, you might want to set that before running the program.
[12:23] <utab> sleep well everbody
[12:23] <Johnny> Thats one thing I dont quite get about sudo
[12:23] <utab> ex;t
[12:23] <utab> exit
[12:23] <lasindi> Sanne: ah, yes, just figured that out; thanks
[12:23] <utab> exit
[12:23] <jaggz-> How do I keep fsck from asking the root password when it hits a problem in our ext3 fs at boot?
[12:23] <Fenstalap> anyone know what modular x.org is?
[12:23] <kyja> system>addministration>user groups
[12:23] <t> Warbo: That doesn't work
[12:23] <Sanne> lasindi: what was it?
[12:23] <Warbo> Johnny: There is a group "admin" which can use sudo. The first user is in there by default, but new users aren't
[12:23] <Johnny> ah
[12:23] <Johnny> I see
[12:23] <Johnny> Thanks
[12:23] <t> Gnome is still up
[12:24] <Warbo> t: Maybe you use KDM or something? (or did you start X manually?)
[12:24] <t> well
[12:24] <lasindi> Sanne: had to add this to my ~/.bashrc: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/usr/local/lib
[12:24] <t> i'm connected through vnc
[12:24] <Fenstalap> anyone know what modular x.org is?
[12:24] <wheels3572> Can anyone help me with CUPS
[12:25] <plur> how can i use synaptic to install .rpm files ive downloaded?
[12:25] <rictoo_> how come all of my full screen games dont run in fullscreen?
[12:25] <Warbo> Fenstalap: X.org is the graphics server. It recently went from being a huge bulk to being smaller "modules". That lets more stuff get added quicker (like AIGLX)
[12:25] <rictoo_> they run with a window, and black all around them
[12:25] <Sanne> lasindi: ah, cool, glad it works :)
[12:25] <Fenstalap> ah so dapper uses modular x.org already?
[12:25] <Warbo> plur: Use alien (but only if there is no .deb)
[12:25] <rictoo_> how come all of my full screen games dont run in fullscreen?
[12:25] <rictoo_> they run with a window, and black all around them
[12:25] <Warbo> !alien
[12:25] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[12:25] <Warbo> Fenstalap: I think so
[12:25] <Fenstalap> ok
[12:25] <rictoo_> !fullscreen
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fullscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <rictoo_> lol
[12:26] <plur> <-- linux noob. not sure i have alien? where should i look?
[12:26] <Fenstalap> im trying to instal aixgl I believe
[12:26] <wheels3572> I am at a standstill on installing a printer for Linux.  How can I go about doing this?
[12:26] <Fenstalap> aiglx
[12:26] <Fenstalap> and it says I need modular x.org
[12:26] <Warbo> plur: You can install alien with Synaptic, then use it to convert the RPM into a Deb
[12:26] <plur> ok thanks
[12:26] <Warbo> !aiglx
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aiglx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <Sanne> plur: are you sure the program isn't in the ubuntu repositories?
[12:26] <Warbo> dammit. Well, I don't have any experience with it
[12:27] <plur> not sure? lol. im using Alt Linux Compact 2.3
[12:27] <Sanne> plur: what is this? A program or a Linux distribution?
[12:27] <plur> distro
[12:27] <__mikem> ok Warbo, time to see if a non quicktime player in windows can read it
[12:28] <Sanne> plur: oh, you're not using ubuntu then?
[12:28] <plur> i looked in the repositories and it only contains packages from Alt Linux Dev Team
[12:29] <plur> I think its built on Ubuntu
[12:29] <Warbo> plur: Try typing "/join #ALTLinux"
[12:30] <plur> Sanne: i was in another channel asking some questions about Alt Linux Compact and was referred to this channel?
[12:30] <Stormx2> !mp3
[12:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:30] <plur> alright ill check that channel out aswell
[12:30] <Sanne> plur: ah! Then it should also have a similar package manager, so it would also be built on -deb files, not on .rpm. If so, try to find a deb file first. Package formats not native to your distro should be used only as a last resort.
[12:30] <Warbo> (just looked thorough a room list)
[12:30] <__mikem> Warbo, it worked, thanks
[12:30] <plur> ahh. got it. thanks
[12:31] <wheels3572> !cups
[12:31] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:31] <dave18719> !botsnack
[12:31] <ubotu> Yum!
[12:31] <Sacrafice> !windows is gay
[12:31] <Warbo> __mikem: Cool
[12:31] <Sanne> plur: *If* your distro can use Ubuntu packages, you can search for them on packages.ubuntu.com.
[12:31] <eigenlambda> !bots
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bots - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <eigenlambda> hm
[12:32] <Warbo> !ubotu
[12:32] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[12:32] <dave18719> !microsoft are imperial neo liberalists
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about microsoft are imperial neo liberalists - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <eigenlambda> neo liberal?
[12:32] <eigenlambda> lol
[12:32] <eigenlambda> libertarians anyway
[12:32] <Warbo> imperial liberalists?
[12:32] <Stormx2> how are microsoft liberals? >.<
[12:32] <Johnny> What does it mean when someone says neo-*?
[12:32] <Stormx2> *liberal
[12:33] <Stormx2> neo means new, basicly
[12:33] <Aphex_Twin> libertarians?
[12:33] <Aphex_Twin> MS?
[12:33] <eigenlambda> neo-liberal is apparently what libertarians want to call themeselves nowadays
[12:33] <Aphex_Twin> doubtful
[12:33] <Warbo> Johnny: It means they are either a highly educated philosopher, or pretty dumb
[12:33] <eigenlambda> now that they've sullied the term 'libertarian'
[12:33] <dave18719> :-x lolz
[12:33] <Aphex_Twin> libertarians are actually the original liberals
[12:33] <Aphex_Twin> so they claim paternity of the term
[12:33] <eigenlambda> lol
[12:33] <eigenlambda> no
[12:33] <Warbo> !offtopic
[12:33] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:34] <zoidberg> is anyone a FLUXBOX user here?
[12:34] <eigenlambda> probably
[12:34] <drbreen> i use fluxbox and blackblox frequently
[12:34] <Warbo> zoidberg: I like to use it when I am not on my own computer
[12:34] <drbreen> on low end laptops where even xfce is a burden
[12:34] <jadrifter> Just cool:  http://www.system76.com/index.php/cPath/53_64
[12:34] <Aphex_Twin> what channel do you talk politics on freenode?
[12:34] <zoidberg> well warbo i have a few questions about it
[12:34] <eigenlambda> zoidberg: i used fluxbox back before i started using ubuntu
[12:34] <Fenstalap>  emerge -av subversion
[12:34] <plur> specifically im trying to download Wine (thier irc channel wasnt very much help) and they dont have the .deb files. it says: "For Ubuntu Dapper (6.06): deb-src gttp://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main" i should add that line to the repositories?
[12:34] <eigenlambda> Aphex_Twin: #wikipedia
[12:34] <eigenlambda> lol
[12:34] <Fenstalap> emerge not a valid command?
[12:34] <Aphex_Twin> lol
[12:34] <zoidberg> when i downloaded ardourg-gtk using synaptec
[12:34] <will_> damned compiz
[12:34] <zoidberg> in fluxbox
[12:34] <drbreen> plur: yes,
[12:35] <will_> just can't seem to get it working
[12:35] <zoidberg> i cant find it after i donwload it
[12:35] <sobieski> damn, I can't use my X-Fi soundcard under Linux until 2007!
[12:35] <plur> ty again
[12:35] <Warbo> Fenstalap: Emerge is a Gentoo system
[12:35] <Fenstalap> ah
[12:35] <Fenstalap> damn
[12:35] <zoidberg> but when i siwtich to gnome (ubuntu)
[12:35] <zoidberg> its there
[12:35] <Warbo> !apt
[12:35] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:35] <zoidberg> i have to log out of the fluxbox session and log into gnome to get to it
[12:35] <zoidberg> do u know whats going on?
[12:35] <drbreen> zoidberg: so you are downloading a program and it isnt in the fluxbox menu ?
[12:35] <zoidberg> yeah
[12:36] <jordanau> zoidberg, you will have to add it manually or open it from a terminal
[12:36] <sobieski> I hate to say it but I'm dependant on Microsoft :'(
[12:36] <zoidberg> okay
[12:36] <zoidberg> well what about this
[12:36] <jordanau> sobieski, that is not a terrible thing
[12:36] <zoidberg> the fluxbox themes....they are tar files
[12:36] <zoidberg> when i place them in the directory where the fluxbox themes are located
[12:37] <sobieski> jordanau, it is when Windows isn't working :/
[12:37] <eigenlambda> fluxbox themes are files
[12:37] <zoidberg> it seems like i dont have to unpack them and i can select the theme from the tar file
[12:37] <zoidberg> but
[12:37] <zoidberg> the background image doesnt display
[12:37] <sycho> I want to write a script so that when I click on a par2 file it will automaticcly check and fix the archive. can anyone point me in the right direction to learn to do this? I have never written a script before
[12:37] <dave18719> i prefer compiz with the new themer
[12:37] <zoidberg> and i dont know how to change the background display in fluxbox?
[12:37] <sobieski> jordanau: not even reformating and reinstalling several times has helped
[12:37] <Warbo> zoidberg: I founf a fluxbox wiki on googe which was pretty good (I was setting someone up on a really slow PC, but ended up giving them E16 anyway since I'm more familiar with it)
[12:37] <eigenlambda> fluxbox themes are little text files is .fluxbox/styles
[12:37] <eigenlambda> they look like
[12:37] <erUSUL> sycho: advanced bash scripting guide from the ldp is a good book
[12:38] <eigenlambda> key: value
[12:38] <eigenlambda> and !comment
[12:38] <Warbo> zoidberg: Fluxbox background is the root window. Just use a program like xsetroot
[12:38] <erUSUL> sycho: you can dl it for free from inet
[12:38] <eigenlambda> rootCommand:                         bsetroot -solid rgb:AA/AA/AA
[12:38] <eigenlambda> ^^ put that in your fluxbox theme
[12:38] <eigenlambda> oh ya
[12:38] <Warbo> zoidberg: If you want something cool then you can tell a screensaver to run as the background :)
[12:39] <wheels3572> Can someone tell me how to find out what version of CUPS I am running?
[12:39] <sycho> erUSUL: thanks alot. by any chance do you know if a script like this has already been written?
[12:39] <eigenlambda> if the background pic isn't in the same place is rootCommand thinks
[12:39] <zoidberg> wow...how do u do that?
[12:39] <eigenlambda> you need to change rootCommand
[12:39] <eigenlambda> zoidberg: use rootCommand
[12:39] <erUSUL> sycho: no sorry...
[12:39] <eigenlambda> some xscreensaver option to run in root...
[12:39] <Warbo> zoidberg: The screensavers are in /usr/lib/xscreensaver I think, so with a teminal there just use "./filename -root" or "./filename -r" (depends on the screensaver
[12:39] <tonyyarusso> Is there any reason installing additional RAM would cause my system to run hotter?
[12:40] <eigenlambda> tonyyarusso: yes
[12:40] <eigenlambda> not by much, though
[12:40] <eigenlambda> actually
[12:40] <jordanau> Warbo, how big of a resource hit do you take from doing that?
[12:40] <Howitzer> Does anyone know how i make bash check if an application is running? (in my case Quodlibet)
[12:40] <lmosher> What's the command to install my current kernel's source?
[12:40] <tonyyarusso> eigenlambda: Like, maybe 3 degrees-ish.
[12:40] <eigenlambda> it may make your system run cooler by preventing hard drive spinups
[12:40] <jordanau> Howitzer, pstree
[12:40] <Howitzer> ty jordanau
[12:40] <zoidberg> Warbo i'm trying to find a fluxbox theme where the edges of windows (and terminals) are transparent
[12:40] <eigenlambda> if you're swapping a lot
[12:41] <Warbo> jordanau: Well I find they flicker quite a bit (3D ones anyway), and 2D ones tend to get black areas when they go behind a window, so I don't use it (I use chbg)
[12:41] <zoidberg> do you know a good fluxbox theme like that?
[12:41] <eigenlambda> adding ram will probably make you cooler actually
[12:41] <eigenlambda> i think
[12:41] <tonyyarusso> eigenlambda: Hmm..never swapped much.  Dunno.
[12:41] <tonyyarusso> A little, but not excessively.
[12:41] <eigenlambda> if you're not swapping...
[12:41] <eigenlambda> ...why do you want more ram?
[12:41] <Warbo> zoidberg: I just use the defaults really (there is a nice dark one, begind with a C.....)
[12:41] <TvaiX> hello, can anybody say why ubuntu server 6.06 installing lilo (not grub)?
[12:41] <jordanau> tonyyarusso, you can always get ram heat spreaders if you want, they are dirt cheap
[12:42] <lmosher> Anyone know how to install my current kernel's source?
[12:42] <drbreen> so if i have understood correctly i can make screensavers work in root window and still have fluxbox ?
[12:42] <drbreen> like matrix interface stuff ?
[12:42] <jordanau> eigenlambda, inch of what...?
[12:42] <tonyyarusso> jordanau: It's a laptop, btw.  Kind of hard to add much of anything.
[12:42] <eigenlambda> ladies are faster and hotter around me than my P4EE
[12:42] <Fenstalap> compiz-quinn-aiglx:
[12:42] <Fenstalap>  Depends: gset-compiz  but it is not installable
[12:42] <Fenstalap> anyone know why that is not installable?
[12:43] <eigenlambda> maybe its not in the repository?
[12:43] <Warbo> Fenstalap: I think that is in one of the XGL repositories in the XGL wiki page (last time I checked was a while ago though)
[12:43] <jordanau> !info gset-compiz
[12:43] <ubotu> Package gset-compiz does not exist in dapper
[12:43] <eigenlambda> !info gstreamer-plugins-bad-multiverse
[12:43] <ubotu> Package gstreamer-plugins-bad-multiverse does not exist in dapper
[12:43] <eigenlambda> hm
[12:43] <lmosher> Anyone know: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?
[12:43] <jordanau> eigenlambda, haha
[12:43] <JackMacOKC> lmosher: you could try sudo apt-get source linux-$(uname -r) ..not sure if that would work or not
[12:44] <will_> blech
[12:44] <will_> this compiz and xgl stuff has got me whipped
[12:44] <will_> can't get it running for the _life_ of me
[12:44] <zoidberg> i'm sorry but i forgot how to make a screensaver a background in fluxbox Warbo?
[12:44] <Warbo> I think gset-compiz is in this repo "deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main"
[12:45] <jaggz-> arghh
[12:45] <Warbo> zoidberg: Find out where they are (I think /usr/lib/xscreensaver) then take a terminal there and run "./screensavername -root" (or maybe -r instead of -root, depending on the screensaver)
[12:46] <Warbo> !info gstreamer0.10-pligins-bad-multiverse
[12:46] <ubotu> Package gstreamer010-pligins-bad-multiverse does not exist in dapper
[12:46] <mcphail> lmosher: you'll find them under /usr/src/kernelname when you install the kernel headers
[12:46] <Fenstalap> I dont understand how a live cd can get xgl working
[12:46] <Warbo> !info gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
[12:46] <ubotu> Package gstreamer010-plugins-bad-multiverse does not exist in dapper
[12:46] <lmosher> mcphail, ty
[12:46] <Fenstalap> but it wont work on a fresh install
[12:46] <Warbo> AA! (I found it in apt-cache though)
[12:46] <Fenstalap> what is the live cd doing that I am not?
[12:47] <will_> obv getting XGL and compiz working
[12:47] <will_> ;_;
[12:47] <will_> sighage
[12:47] <Fenstalap> yes
[12:47] <jordanau> Fenstalap, spinning really quickly in your computer
[12:47] <Fenstalap> but how is it getting it working
[12:47] <will_> hell if I know
[12:47] <nixconve1ter> could anyone point me in the direction of a full feature or application set that comes standard on a ubuntu-server install
[12:47] <will_> XGL works, but not compiz on my end
[12:47] <will_> I'm dealing with the same crap.
[12:48] <zoidberg> cool warbo
[12:48] <zoidberg> now after i ctr+z in the terminal to stop it...how do i clear the desktop back again?
[12:48] <Warbo> zoidberg: I personally use chbg to rotate through different background images
[12:48] <jordanau> nixconve1ter, as in you want to know what is on the cd?
[12:48] <zoidberg> what is chbg?
[12:48] <nixconve1ter> yea basically
[12:48] <wedTM> hey
[12:48] <jordanau> zoidberg, that backgrounds it ctrl-c stops it
[12:49] <Warbo> zoidberg: I think you have to set it to something new (also, ctrl-z just stops a process, ctrl-c kills it)
[12:49] <wedTM> some guy named pushpop is asking to get back into the room
[12:49] <wedTM> he says he's sorry and won't do it again.
[12:49] <zoidberg> cool
[12:49] <Warbo> !info chbg
[12:49] <ubotu> chbg: tool for changing the desktop background image in X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5-7 (dapper), package size 244 kB, installed size 968 kB
[12:49] <argument> can someone point me to the page describing nvidia kernel driver install with apt?
[12:49] <Warbo> !nvidia > argument
[12:49] <nixconve1ter> i mean I assume it doesn't just install everything on the cd either...so a list of everything on the cd and what is the typical install
[12:49] <argument> thx
[12:50] <jordanau> Warbo, and isn't backgrounding a wonderful thing when your xserver decides to not start
[12:50] <nixconve1ter> is there anywhere to find that out before I download the iso
[12:50] <tonyyarusso> Can someone tell me what the issues are with the -26 kernel included in the 6.06.1 maintenance release?  I heard it has problems, but don't know what they are.
[12:51] <lmosher> A program is asking me: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? I just installed linux-kernel-source-2.5.15 but all it did was put a .tar.bz2 in /usr/src
[12:51] <jordanau> nixconve1ter, http://www.ubuntu.com/server
[12:51] <mcphail> lmosher: install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:51] <nixconve1ter> jordanau: thanks
[12:52] <lmosher> mcphail, ah ok, so can i remove the linux-source I just got? :P
[12:52] <mcphail> lmosher: yes
[12:52] <nixconve1ter> sorry i must have just completely overlooked it...i'm sorry i've been going 36 hours straight and trying to wind down
[12:52] <lmosher> mcphail, hehe ok thanks :)
[12:52] <mcphail> lmosher: :)
[12:52] <jordanau> nixconve1ter, its okay have a redbull...
[12:52] <Warbo> lmosher: linux-headers are a cut-down source for the running kernel. The kernel source is only needed if you compiled your own kernel
[12:52] <mcphail> Warbo: well, they aren't really source
[12:52] <nixconve1ter> I actually just had two espressos, i'm starting back up
[12:53] <Warbo> mcphail: They fill the role
[12:53] <jordanau> nixconve1ter, that will do it
[12:53] <nixconve1ter> jordanau: :)
[12:53] <mister_roboto> mcphail:  what do you mean headers aren't source? they are part of the source  :)
[12:53] <lmosher> Warbo, ahh ok i understand. thanks very much
[12:53] <smacky> what is the command to turn off ssh ?
[12:53] <mcphail> mister_roboto: they're the api, rather than the implementation
[12:54] <mcphail> smacky: turn off the client or server?
[12:54] <smacky> server
[12:54] <mcphail> smacky: /etc/init.d/ssh stop
[12:54] <Warbo> sudo /etc/init.d/sshd stop maybe?
[12:54] <lmosher> mcphail, ok so i've done that. the answer the program now wants is: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386/include correct?
[12:54] <Warbo> OK, not a daemon then
[12:54] <smacky> thanks
[12:55] <mister_roboto> mcphail: actually, they ARE part of the implementation. I know what you mean but the fact is they just get included into one big file in the preprocessor stage
[12:55] <mister_roboto> mcphail: you can't compile the .c files without them.   just razzing you, you must know this already
[12:55] <sobieski> Creepy... two days in a row two different fire alarms go off in two different rooms, theyr not linked to each other in any way... I'm a bit scared right now :o
[12:55] <mcphail> mister_roboto: they are useless on their own
[12:55] <mister_roboto> mcphail: as are the .c files
[12:55] <mcphail> mister_roboto: yup
[12:55] <jordanau> sobieski, dorms?
[12:55] <Warbo> lmosher: I always give it /lib/modules/<version>/build (but I never bothered checking where that link points to)
[12:56] <nixconve1ter> so has everyone always has good results with Ubuntu in here
[12:56] <sobieski> jordanau: nope, a house
[12:56] <mcphail> lmosher: it is vmware you are installing?
[12:56] <lmosher> mcphail, You go tit
[12:56] <lmosher> it
[12:56] <sobieski> jordanau: no pot here if thats what ure suspecting :P
[12:56] <nixconve1ter> also do any of you use the server version
[12:56] <mcphail> lmosher: the script will find them automatically
[12:56] <touny> ..
[12:56] <lmosher> mcphail, um. the script's default directory was: /usr/src/linux/include, which doesn't exist
[12:57] <eternaljoy> I installed Azureus, but when loading it asks to test port 19534, but it gives an error!  Any solution?
[12:57] <mcphail> lmosher: have you run it again since installing the heade4rs?
[12:57] <jordanau> sobieski, actually showers set alarms off like mad in the auburn university dorms since smoke detectors are really just water vapor detectors </offtopic>
[12:57] <lmosher> mcphail, lol. I guess that would help, huh? should I do updatedb?
[12:57] <mcphail> lmosher: no. it will find them
[12:58] <lmosher> mcphail, ok I'll give it a whirl. How does vmware work? pretty well? just trying it out
[12:58] <mcphail> lmosher: the vmware people are clever
[12:58] <mcphail> lmosher: i run vmware workstation, and it is excellent
[12:58] <sobieski> jordanau: well, no showers here, the time is about 01.00 GMT +2
[12:58] <prophet> how do u mount my 3rd hd its ext3 .. so i can write to it/
[12:58] <lmosher> mcphail, kewl. I can pretty much just hit enter though all the installation questions, then?
[12:58] <mcphail> lmosher: yes
[12:59] <jordanau> !mount > prophet
[12:59] <lmosher> mcphail, kewl. thanks. Reading question FTL
[12:59] <eternaljoy> I installed Azureus, but when loading it asks to test port 19534, but it gives an error!  Any solution?
[12:59] <jordanau> nixconve1ter, i have had my best linux experience with it, do you just need a server?
[12:59] <lmosher> eternaljoy, pick a different port
[01:00] <argument> is there a way to query the X-Server to find out what driver it's using?
[01:00] <argument> i know what driver i have in my xorg.conf i just want to see what's in the currently running X
[01:00] <c0nfidencal> hey, how can i change monitor hz? on ubuntu max i can set is 60, on windows - 85!!! on same resolution
[01:00] <eternaljoy> lmosher: what port?
[01:00] <zoidberg> warbo...I"M LOVING THE SCREENSAVER BACKGROUND THING!!!
[01:00] <zoidberg> thanx man
[01:01] <jordanau> eternaljoy, that sounds like you need to forward the port on your router
[01:01] <eternaljoy> lmosher: it doesnt give anothe rport
[01:01] <c0nfidencal> :/
[01:01] <argument> zoidberg, what background?
[01:01] <lmosher> eternaljoy, oh, i'm sorry i thought that was the part where it was suppoed to let you pick some ports to test out the NAT settings? You can just enter any port you want (high numbers are good)
[01:01] <zoidberg> if you have fluxbox....you can set your screensavers as your desktop backgrounds
[01:01] <c0nfidencal> hey, how can i change monitor hz? on ubuntu max i can set is 60, on windows - 85!!! on same resolution
[01:01] <jordanau> !resolution > c0nfidencal
[01:01] <eternaljoy> it says I need to have port 19534 UDP open!
[01:01] <c0nfidencal> not resolution
[01:01] <c0nfidencal> hz :)
[01:01] <mcphail> c0nfidencal: if you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" you can fine tune these things
[01:02] <jordanau> eternaljoy, you adjust that in your router settings
[01:02] <c0nfidencal> ah, good :p thx
[01:02] <eternaljoy> jordanau: what router?
[01:02] <eternaljoy> jordanau: no rrouter here
[01:03] <Wuhtzu> I have a very simple question. I have installed Ubunto 6.0.6 Server and I am following a guide which tells me to edit verious things. When i have edited some doc, how do i get to type in commands agan?
[01:03] <prophet> i mounted the drive but it made a folder called lost+found
[01:03] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: what are you using to edit? vim?
[01:03] <t4dyce> hi all, while installing totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin, I received the following error "Depends: totem-gstreamer (=1.4.1-0ubuntua) but 1.4.3-oubuntu1 is to be installed
[01:03] <t4dyce> help
[01:03] <lmosher> mcphail, As this is my first go at vmware, I'm not too sure how this works. I have a separate disk with XP installed. Will I be able to use this install, or should I install XP on another blank disk?
[01:05] <mcphail> lmosher: i have never tried mounting existing partitions (but i know you can do this with qemu). vmware will create some files inside your linux partition which will function as virtual drives
[01:05] <jordanau> eternaljoy, do you have a firewall?
[01:05] <lmosher> mcphail, ok ty
[01:05] <Wuhtzu> mcphail: i am typing in somehting like: "vi /etc/hosts" so i guess the editor must be "vi"
[01:05] <mister_roboto> lmosher: do you have the xp install disk?
[01:06] <lmosher> misfit_toy, yes
[01:06] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: type "escape" then ":wq enter"
[01:06] <lmosher> mister_roboto, stupid tab compltion. yes.
[01:06] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: it takes a while to learn vi or vim. You might be better using a simpler editor
[01:06] <Flannel> Wuhtzu: in the future, you might want to use nano instead, it's more beginner friendly
[01:07] <mister_roboto> lmosher: vmware makes a virtual machine with its own display adapter, network card, etc. you can definitely install windows directly into the VM but i never tried "capturing" another installed partition. seems like it wouldn't work since the virtualized hardware is quite different than the existing install knows about
[01:09] <jose__> Hello?
[01:09] <Warbo> zoidberg: (I was away trying to debug my game) Thanks. You can use it in any environment where the background isn't being managed. For instance you can do it in GNOME if you tell Nautilus not to draw the background
[01:09] <jose__> Can anyone help me? I'm looking to buy a video card for use with gaming in Ubuntu.
[01:09] <Flannel> jose__: get an nvidia
[01:09] <Warbo> jose__: Gte an Nvidia
[01:09] <jordanau> jose__, nvidia
[01:09] <jordanau> haha
[01:09] <jose__> haha
[01:09] <jose__> indeed
[01:10] <jordanau> jose__, buy two and i will trade you my ati for it
[01:10] <jose__> I was hoping someone might have some model #s to recommend.
[01:10] <Warbo> (ATI have Open Source drivers available for 3D, which I use, but they only work on older cards. No use for gaming)
[01:10] <Wuhtzu> mcphail: just hit type "escape" in a new line and then the keycombo :q<enter> ?
[01:10] <mcphail> jose__: my 6600 can run everything which runs in linux at full res/detail
[01:10] <Wuhtzu> mcphail: dont know what hit is doing in that sentence :)
[01:10] <Hexidigital_> jose__::  for a Nvidia card? i have a 128 MB GeForce MX 5500, works great w/ ubuntu
[01:10] <jose__> oh yeah?
[01:11] <Flannel> jose__: model numbers are just.. well, depending on how powerful you want.  If its an nvidia, it should run fine
[01:11] <Warbo> Don't go for blindingly new hardware, as the driver probably won't support it yet
[01:11] <Hexidigital_> jose__::  after installing the drivers, of course
[01:11] <jose__> aye
[01:11] <jose__> mcphail: how recent is the 6600?
[01:11] <salah> how do I choice which sound card I want to use?
[01:11] <jordanau> newegg has one with 256mb ram for under or right over 100 USD
[01:11] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: Press "escape" to enter command mode then ":wq<enter>" to write the file and quit
[01:11] <markybob> which kernel does 6.06.1 come with?
[01:11] <mcphail> jose__: it is quite old and cheap
[01:12] <jose__> aah
[01:12] <damian_> I have a question
[01:12] <Warbo> go ahead
[01:12] <Flannel> markybob: 6.06 is the same as 6.06.1, well, .1 has bugfixes, but its not a 'new' version, just an updated ISO
[01:12] <jose__> So if I wanted to buy a relatively new nvidia card, for a price point of $100-$200, and with driver support - any ideas?
[01:12] <damian_> ubuntu lists my drives on my desktop by default
[01:12] <Hexidigital_> !kernel > markybob
[01:13] <damian_> how do I get it to stop doing that
[01:13] <mcphail> jose__: there are a couple of generations of cards since then, but quake4 runs perfectly under that one and the nvidia drivers are fine
[01:13] <Sammi> Can /anyone/ please tell me how I can safely quit an application that's on another display? (like vmware or firefox) Is it per application? or is there something generic?
[01:13] <jose__> hmm
[01:13] <markybob> Hexidigital_, did i happen to ask what a kernel is or how to compile?  why did you send me that worthless bit?
[01:13] <c0nfidencal> jose__: maybe 7600gt? kinda cheap, works great @ ubuntu
[01:13] <Warbo> damian_: Look in Applications>System Tools>Configuration Editor. Go in apps>nautilus>desktop (I htink)
[01:13] <markybob> Flannel, i understand that.  still doesnt answer which kernel version it comes with
[01:13] <jose__> mcphail: I'll keep the 6600 in mind, then. How much does it run for, would you think?
[01:13] <Hexidigital_> markybob::  oh, i thought kernel was something else
[01:13] <Hexidigital_> markybob::  does this help?
[01:13] <Hexidigital_> !version > markybob
[01:14] <Burgundavia> Sammi: you can kill it via the command line. `ps aux | grep appname`, then kill the pid, which is the 2nd column
[01:14] <c0nfidencal> !version > c0nfidencal
[01:14] <Wuhtzu> mcphail: then i get "E492: not and editor command: qw"
[01:14] <markybob> oh my lord
[01:14] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: :wq - with the colon
[01:14] <jose__> c0nfidencal: Thanks. I'll check that one too.
[01:14] <Flannel> markybob: linux-image-386_2.6.15.24_i386.deb
[01:15] <markybob> Flannel, thank you
[01:15] <nixconve1ter> jordanau: I actually don't just need a server....I already had a server I just decided to move from my current system to a new one for experimentation
[01:15] <Warbo> Flannel: That is a meta-package. linux-image-<version>-386 is the kernel package
[01:15] <Sammi> Burgundavia; Yeah, I was thinking of that, but then I'm worried they would act like crashed (lose the vmware session, for example)
[01:15] <Flannel> Warbo: right, but that's the version number
[01:15] <Wuhtzu> mcphail: i do write the colon... when i hit escape I get to type in the buttom of the screen and i type ":qw" and then hit <enter>
[01:15] <Burgundavia> Sammi: yes, that will
[01:15] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: :wq not :qw
[01:15] <Warbo> Well I got rid of the meta-packages, and I use k7 :)
[01:15] <jose__> c0nfidencal: By the way - is the 7600gt PCIE or AGP?
[01:15] <Sammi> Burgandavia; Is there any way to avoid that?
[01:16] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: you need to "write" (i.e. save) the file before quitting
[01:16] <ratbert90> hello, I am having a serious time trying to figure this problem out
[01:16] <c0nfidencal> pci-e
[01:16] <nixconve1ter> jordanau: this is just a complete test server that I will be using and I like to experiment on my test servers for different distros
[01:16] <arrrgff> I have a usb wifi and draper has the modual zd1211
[01:16] <sethk> Wuhtzu, :x is equivalent to :wq and easier to type
[01:16] <arrrgff> but its not gooing :(
[01:16] <ratbert90> I have a ati radeon 9800,  the drivers work, however, to get them to work, I have to create a symbolic link from misc to volitile and modprobe fglrx manually to get them to work
[01:16] <arrrgff> iwconfig don't show it
[01:16] <ratbert90> when I restart,  the symbolic link is no longer there
[01:17] <ratbert90> and the drivers again, don't work
[01:17] <Warbo> ratbert90: /etc/modules doesn't work?
[01:17] <arrrgff> but when do /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:17] <arrrgff> it show its trying to start it
[01:17] <ratbert90> I will try that
[01:17] <Warbo> ratbert90: Maybe add a simple script to /etc/init.d then update-rc.d with a low number (gets run early)
[01:17] <Wuhtzu> mcphail: it seems to work, thanks. now i just have to work around "Can't open file for writing"
[01:17] <sethk> ratbert90, add a few lines to an init script to create the link and do the modprobe
[01:17] <arrrgff> any won have  a clue
[01:17] <Warbo> (use the script to make the link, and /etc/modules to load the driver)
[01:17] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: you need to edit that file as root
[01:18] <arrrgff> how do i load the zd1211 module?
[01:18] <nixconve1ter> so sorry again but does anyone use ubuntu-server much
[01:18] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: a normal user does not have permission to edit /etc/hosts
[01:18] <nixconve1ter> this will not be a production system by any means
[01:18] <Wuhtzu> mcphail; ill try to login as root again then, but i think i am already
[01:18] <nixconve1ter> I may have a subversion and LAMP setup
[01:18] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: what doe your command prompt say
[01:18] <nixconve1ter> subversion repository that is
[01:18] <Flannel> nixconve1ter: what you need help with?
[01:18] <eyequeue> Wuhtzu, sudo
[01:19] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: (and note that root account is disabled by default in ubuntu)
[01:19] <nixconve1ter> Flannel:  i'm just wanting people's on ubuntu server compared to some other distros
[01:19] <Flannel> nixconve1ter: Im using ubuntu as a server, yeah.
[01:20] <nixconve1ter> Flannel: so you happy with it
[01:20] <Flannel> nixconve1ter: aye
[01:20] <damian_> how do you tell gnome to autologin into an account
[01:20] <jn> hey how do i use a pcf font in gnometerm (gtk)
[01:20] <nixconve1ter> Flannel:  what type of server if you don't mind
[01:20] <Wuhtzu> mcphail: shouldnt it be enabled after "sudo passwd root" and then setting a password
[01:20] <Flannel> Wuhtzu: why'd you do that?
[01:20] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: yes
[01:20] <yz> jai
[01:21] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: but using "sudo" to perform root commands is safer in some ways
[01:21] <eyequeue> Wuhtzu, sigh, see RootSudo
[01:21] <damian_> how do you tell gnome to autologin into an account
[01:21] <Flannel> nixconve1ter: http, ftp, subversion, streaming video/audio (icecast), um.  I'm ssh'd into it for irc right now ;)
[01:21] <eyequeue> !RootSudo > Wuhtzu
[01:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about RootSudo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:21] <nixconve1ter> and I know this is not the channel for this but I want to setup a vpn for my house but I haven't decided between modding my wrt54g router or doing a software vpn on a linux server like openvpn...any suggestions
[01:21] <eyequeue> !Root > Wuhtzu
[01:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Root - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <mcphail> !root > Wuhtzu
[01:22] <Flannel> case sensitive
[01:22] <eyequeue> !rootsudo > Wuhtzu
[01:22] <eyequeue> Flannel, thanks
[01:22] <ardchoille> Wuhtzu: enabling the root accont isn't supported configuration. that account is disabled for good reason. Sudo can take care of everything you need.
[01:22] <rx_> is it possible to upgrade ubuntu to kubuntu without reinstalling? i know i could just install kdm, uninstall gdm, etc...doing it all by hand but it would be lenghtly....
[01:22] <nixconve1ter> Flannel: nice...I will be using it for subversion, httpd, mysql, perl, php, and ruby development
[01:22] <Flannel> rx_: insteall the kubuntu-desktop package
[01:22] <mcphail> rx_: i wouldn't call it an _upgrade_ ... :)
[01:23] <eyequeue> rx_, if that's an "upgrade" os debatable, but "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[01:23] <eyequeue> is
[01:23] <Flannel> nixconve1ter: yeah, Ive got all that installed to, and yeah, it's my test machine.
[01:23] <rx_> will it take care of replacing gdm with kdm, etc?
[01:23] <Wuhtzu> i was just reading this guide: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p3 ... i didnt knew where else to start. I just wanted to try some linux without a gui
[01:23] <salah> how do I choice which sound card I want to use as default?
[01:24] <Flannel> rx_: yeah
[01:24] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: everyone's perfect setup is different
[01:24] <Flannel> Wuhtzu: and, that guide doesn't do things the ubuntu way, if I remember correctly.
[01:25] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: if you are new to the CLI, logging in as root is dangerous and vi/vim are tricky
[01:25] <rx_> cool
[01:25] <rx_> and theres a "ubuntu-desktop" package...that i can remove?
[01:25] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: and i wouldn't edit /etc/hosts if i wasn't sure how to use the editor...
[01:25] <eyequeue> Wuhtzu, perhaps better to reinstall
[01:25] <rx_> (i dont care about reinstalling some gtk apps because i dont use much of em...except firefox)
[01:25] <Wuhtzu> mcphail: im new and the cli it self is tricky -> have reinstalled 5 times this evening
[01:25] <ardchoille> rx_: ubuntu-desktop is only a meta package and can be safely removed, yes
[01:26] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: :)
[01:26] <rx_> but it wont remove gdm, etc right?
[01:26] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: when you get the hang of it, it is a very useful and productive skill
[01:26] <eyequeue> rx_, the meta package has dependencies
[01:26] <ardchoille> rx_: nope, it's there just to pull in needed packages.. once it's installed, you can safely remove ubuntu-desktop
[01:26] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: and vim is an excellent editor
[01:27] <argument> vim rocks
[01:27] <ratbert90> ok, I am having a problem still
[01:27] <Wuhtzu> mcphail: i bet so -> do you know any good tutorials on the cli?
[01:27] <ratbert90>  modprobe fglrx
[01:27] <ratbert90> FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/volatile/fglrx.ko': No such file or directory
[01:27] <ardchoille> !bash
[01:27] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:27] <ratbert90> fglrx.ko is in misc
[01:27] <eyequeue> Wuhtzu, google for rute
[01:27] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: ^^^
[01:27] <ratbert90> I can move it, modprobe it, and all is ok
[01:27] <ratbert90> however, when I restart,  it moves it back to misc
[01:27] <rx_> ok
[01:27] <ratbert90> making it so I can't modprobe it
[01:27] <ratbert90> any ideas on how to fix it?
[01:28] <eyequeue> !rute
[01:28] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[01:28] <ardchoille> !bash > Wuhtzu
[01:28] <Wuhtzu> ill try it again, but "google->ubuntu commando line" doenst seem to pay off
[01:28] <eyequeue> Wuhtzu, google for "rute"
[01:28] <jn> i want to use sabvga (pcf font) in gnome terminal is this possible?
[01:29] <ardchoille> Wuhtzu: Check pm, ubotu sent you a link
[01:29] <rx_> is there a way to clean up an installation? i mean...this ubuntu desktop is full of junk..(its some random box here, not mine), i want to clean it up a bit as well... i would like to go back to a base install...but without reinstalling :)
[01:29] <rx_> and i dont feel like removing package by hand
[01:29] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: "commando line" won't work ;p
[01:29] <mister_roboto> Wuhtzu: try googling for "linux command line"  it came up with several good sites for using the shell and unix commands
[01:29] <rx_> i know i could remove gtk some tons of useless package that require it would be uninstalled...but im scared of cyclic dep
[01:30] <arrrgff> anyone have wifi?
[01:30] <Seveas> !anyone > arrrgff
[01:31] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: if you _really_ want to get to know command-line linux quickly, you could try working through "Linux from Scratch". The principles can be applied to any distro
[01:32] <salah> any help for my problem please?
[01:32] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: and when you work through that, you'll realise how much friendlier the ubuntu environment is
[01:32] <ardchoille> mcphail: lol
[01:32] <eyequeue> mcphail, debatable, i think cli is friendlier
[01:32] <jAvierder> Hi people, we're trying to join all the Argentina Ubuntu Linux comunity under the chanel #ULUGA, join us if you want :)
[01:32] <mcphail> eyequeue: i meant the ubuntu cli
[01:32] <eyequeue> mcphail, though ubuntu-server is ubuntu :)
[01:33] <eyequeue> mcphail, gotcha
[01:33] <Tutter> unrelated question - anyone here using VoIP?
[01:33] <ym4546> i'm having a samba problem...i have samba installed, and a folder that i have shared will show up on winxp, but when i try to access it, it says "access denied"
[01:33] <ym4546> any ideas?
[01:33] <y0rgos> Guys, i need help trying to install my nvidia display driver - everytime i install it when my system reboots my monitor goes into standby
[01:34] <Stormx2> How do I change my keyboard layout in xfce?
[01:34] <argument> Stormx2, xmodmap can do it
[01:34] <dougsko> ym4546: have the winxp account have the same login and password as the unix box
[01:34] <argument> Stormx2, what like to Dvorak or something?
[01:34] <ym4546> what do you mean
[01:34] <Stormx2> No um
[01:34] <ym4546> oh sorry.. no
[01:34] <Stormx2> British English
[01:34] <Stormx2> XD
[01:34] <ym4546> they don't have the same login.
[01:34] <dougsko> ym4546: or make a login on the unix for the winxp user with the same login/pass
[01:34] <argument> ahh
[01:34] <Warbo> y0rgos: Sounds like you are using a resolution or something that your monitor can't handle
[01:35] <eternaljoy> anyone here using Azureus?
[01:35] <ym4546> well my windows username has spaces
[01:35] <ym4546> is that okay to make a unix account for?
[01:35] <mcphail> eternaljoy: occasionally
[01:35] <_JECKEL_> what was the apt-get for KDE?
[01:35] <jAvierder> eternaljoy, yes
[01:35] <dougsko> ym4546: that could be a problem...
[01:35] <y0rgos> Warbo: my monitor handles 1920x1200 and i was at 800x600 when rebooting, and ive tried 1280x1024 also
[01:35] <_JECKEL_> sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop?
[01:35] <Warbo> _JECKEL_: kubuntu-desktop
[01:35] <eyequeue> ym4546, not advisable
[01:35] <Ropechoborra> Why OpenOficce takes so long to load??
[01:35] <Warbo> y0rgos: Maybe it is the refresh rate, horizontal or vertical rates?
[01:35] <Stormx2> Ropechoborra: Cause it's lame
[01:35] <mcphail> Ropechoborra: is is a bloated piece of software
[01:36] <damian_> yeah
[01:36] <Warbo> !info abiword
[01:36] <ubotu> abiword: WYSIWYG word processor based on GTK2. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.4-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 2450 kB, installed size 6844 kB
[01:36] <dougsko> try mounting the share in windows manually, from the command prompt
[01:36] <Stormx2> How do I change my keyboard layout in xfce to British English?
[01:36] <y0rgos> warbo: what should i change it to
[01:36] <dougsko> ym4546: that way you can specify the username a pass
[01:36] <jAvierder> !info tomboy
[01:36] <ubotu> tomboy: desktop note taking program using Wiki style links. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.5-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 144 kB, installed size 1036 kB
[01:36] <txx2> Does anyone know if a ubuntu studio edition will be out? .. like there is a kubuntu and so on?
[01:36] <ym4546> i had it working before tho...
[01:36] <Ropechoborra> So u recommend abiword?
[01:36] <Stormx2> and if you need a spreadsheet app, gnumeric
[01:36] <Warbo> y0rgos: I don't know. I always just guess mine with what I think of as conservative values
[01:36] <ym4546> with the current winxp setup, and i didn't have to add a user or anything
[01:36] <dougsko> ym4546: yeah dude, windows is really finicky about it
[01:36] <mcphail> Ropechoborra: for something different, try LyX as a wordprocessor
[01:36] <eyequeue> txx2, what pray tell would it be?
[01:37] <eternaljoy> mcphail: how do I get the file so I can use Azureus?
[01:37] <drbreen> abiword is the best word processor in terms of what bang for your buck you can get
[01:37] <jAvierder> babaiiiiiiiiiiii
[01:37] <txx2> eyequeue,  sorry, what?
[01:37] <drbreen> !lyx
[01:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lyx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:37] <Warbo> Ropechoborra: I would. Unless I want to integrate spreadsheets, databases and stuff (which I never do. I just type stuff)
[01:37] <eternaljoy> how do I get the file so I can use Azureus?
[01:37] <dougsko> ym4546: could you please prefix your msgs with my name, theres too much noise here for me to read what your saying
[01:37] <eyequeue> txx2, studio means what?
[01:37] <visik7> anyone have tryed compile edgy xen-3.0 on dapper ?
[01:37] <mister_roboto> does abiword open and save ms-word format? does it save pdf?  just wondering
[01:37] <mcphail> eternaljoy: what do you mean "get the file"? You can download azureus from sourceforge.net
[01:37] <ym4546> dougsko: sorry..i'll do it from now on
[01:37] <eternaljoy> mcphail: its installed already!  now what?
[01:37] <Warbo> Yes, I think so (word definetly. PDF I think so)
[01:38] <dougsko> ym4546: np, much better :)
[01:38] <txx2> eyequeue,  The ubuntu audio studio project that is on the forums as the 3rd party projects is a project to get a special version of ubuntu, which is heavily situated for the musician.
[01:38] <eternaljoy> mcphail: it says open torrent file, but I cant find any file at the wbsite?
[01:38] <eyequeue> txx2, ahh, thanks
[01:38] <y0rgos> how would i go about changing the values?
[01:38] <txx2> I was wondering if a pre-packaged OS of this will be available.
[01:38] <mcphail> eternaljoy: download a .torrent file and drag and drop into the azureus window
[01:38] <Warbo> y0rgos: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:39] <Wuhtzu> Thanks guys, Ill rething the whole thing and start reading some linux guides
[01:39] <eyequeue> txx2, see if you can drum up interest on the forums?
[01:39] <Ropechoborra> Any ideas for a Video-Conference supported MSN client? (not aMSN or Kopete)
[01:39] <edju> locate dhcp3
[01:39] <y0rgos> warbo: i did this a few minutes ago, should i do it again
[01:39] <visik7> Ropechoborra: no other
[01:39] <Ropechoborra> =(
[01:39] <Warbo> y0rgos: It wouldn't do any harm
[01:40] <txx2> eyequeue,  I myself would love to see this, currently there are some very good up coming music apps for linux, such as drum machines and midi/audio sequencers. I was wondering if ubuntu allowed this to happen.
[01:40] <Warbo> y0rgos: Easier than changing xorg.conf
[01:40] <y0rgos> do i choose default NV or should i attemp to pick the nvidia
[01:40] <y0rgos> (everytime i choose nvidia i cant boot back up normally, unless i change back to nv through console)
[01:40] <mcphail> Wuhtzu: the guys on the #bash channel will be able to point you to a few guides and faqs as well
[01:40] <Warbo> txx2: Anyone can make their own Ubuntu derivitave. Whether it is official or not depends. I think Xubuntu was originally unofficial
[01:40] <dougsko> ym4546: http://www.microsoft.co.ke/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/net_use.mspx?mfr=true
[01:41] <ym4546> dougsko: i'll look at it...thanks
[01:41] <eyequeue> txx2, ubuntu wouldn't prevent it, though i think it would be a third-party project at least at first, to my understanding
[01:41] <dougsko> ym4546: try mounting the share manually with that. that way you can specify your login and pass
[01:41] <Ropechoborra> How do i make AbiWord default wordprocesor?
[01:41] <Warbo> y0rgos: Choose nvidia (you could choose nv, but what is the point if you are trying to get nvidia working?)
[01:41] <txx2> Warbo,  I am no expert, but would it be hard to make a ubuntu release with many-already installed audio programs?
[01:41] <eyequeue> txx2, yeah, Warbo's example is a good illustration :)
[01:42] <[-Trico-Bw-] > oh hi
[01:42] <[-Trico-Bw-] > how are you all ?
[01:42] <y0rgos> Warbo: right, what ammount of memory to be used by video card?
[01:42] <arrrgff> how do i un load a module?
[01:42] <[-Trico-Bw-] > i have a questiong
[01:42] <[-Trico-Bw-] > i order cds
[01:42] <Warbo> txx2: No. I have made many liveCDs in my time, and it is pretty simple, then it is just a matter of changing whatever list there is of default packages in the LiveCD installer
[01:42] <arrrgff> like i did modprobe zd1211
[01:42] <arrrgff> i want to unload it now
[01:42] <eyequeue> txx2, it's probably not a newbie-task, but it's not all that impossible either, a custom cd
[01:42] <Warbo> y0rgos: You shouldn't have to set it unless it is onboard, and then it depends entirely on the cartd
[01:43] <txx2> eyequeue,  Yeah, cheers for the info. The current state of studio ubuntu is basically some tutorial files on their wiki, but I'd like to see a release by them soon.
[01:43] <y0rgos> use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[01:43] <arrrgff> Seveas: there's a straight question :)
[01:43] <Warbo> txx2: The biggest hurdle would be that most of the applications you would want installed are in Universe, not main
[01:43] <Warbo> y0rgos: no
[01:43] <eyequeue> txx2, it's people like you that make progress :)  encourage them and volunteer some time :)
[01:43] <Seveas> arrrgff, modprobe -r module_name_here
[01:43] <hyperspace> txx2 : have you seen scrambled hackz?
[01:44] <hyperspace> txx2 : http://www.popmodernism.org/scrambledhackz/
[01:44] <txx2> Warbo,  Well, I think it's pretty much standard stablized apps that would be pre installed. Shouldn't be too hard.
[01:44] <txx2> Nope, I'll check it out, thanks hyperspace
[01:44] <hyperspace> watch the vids they are insanity
[01:44] <engla> I need some help. Is it possible to set up ubuntu for internet sharing via wireless?
[01:44] <hyperspace> he hasnt released source or binaries yet, but i await the moment he does
[01:44] <txx2> hyperspace,  Ohh yes, I've seen this.. the guy with the mike, and it selects the samples closest to his voice/words.
[01:45] <hyperspace> yup
[01:45] <edju> I have gone thru 2 or 3 HOWTOs on wireless, but still nogo.  iwconfig reports NOT READY.  Any hints/pointers?
[01:45] <y0rgos> hey Warbo: select the x.org server modules that should be loaded by default
[01:45] <Warbo> txx2: Yes, I am just wondering how easy it would be to make an official spin-off of it. The packages would have to go in main. I could make such a distro in a couple of hours if being unofficial doesn't matter (and that is just the time needed to download, install and de/compress)
[01:45] <arrrgff> Seveas: chears
[01:45] <engla> I want to share connex from ethernet to others via my bcm43xx wireless. WPA or not is egal
[01:45] <ym4546> dougsko: that command isn't working, b/c i can't get the syntax right.
[01:45] <Warbo> y0rgos: Don't use DRI, I know that much
[01:45] <y0rgos> should i leave them default? or add/remove any? -- ok
[01:45] <Warbo> y0rgos: Is there a GLCore?
[01:45] <Seveas> engla, install firestarter for easy 3-click internet sharing
[01:46] <engla> Seveas: haven't happened for me. It always says eth1 (my wlan) is not ready and such
[01:46] <ym4546> dougsko: could this be a firewall problem (iptables)
[01:46] <dougsko> ym4546: well what are you typing?
[01:46] <engla> Seveas: but it should work? I've tried it, but I need the exact settings for iwconfig to go with it probably
[01:46] <txx2> Warbo,  Cool. There's many audio applications now for linux, and you can get a lot of info off of the wiki http://ubuntustudio.com/wiki/index.php/Welcome,_Musicians!
[01:46] <y0rgos> i missed it, i already proceeded
[01:46] <Seveas> engla, you need to configure it and bring it up before you can share anything
[01:47] <arrrgff> Seveas: how do i list avalible names ? modprobe -l ?
[01:47] <ym4546> dougsko: net use
[01:47] <Seveas> arrrgff, lsmod
[01:47] <GTroy> would there be any problems switching to alsa 1.06 to be able to use my sound card?
[01:47] <ym4546> dougsko: h/o sorry
[01:47] <arrrgff> :)
[01:47] <y0rgos> "please choose a method for selecting your monitor characterestics" :-?
[01:47] <engla> Seveas: configure it for what? I mean, I odn't want to connect to any network..
[01:47] <Warbo> y0rgos: I was going to say disable it. But I think the latest driver doesn't actually care
[01:47] <Warbo> y0rgos: Use medium
[01:47] <edju> locate wireles.example
[01:47] <engla> Seveas: but thanks for the confirmation that it should work.. this can get exciting
[01:47] <ym4546> dougsko: net use \\ubuntu\hda5 password /user:yatin
[01:47] <Warbo> (whatever is between simple and advanced)
[01:48] <ym4546> dougsko::"yatin" is my linux username
[01:48] <y0rgos> Write monitor sync ranges to config file??
[01:48] <Warbo> y0rgos: Yup
[01:48] <y0rgos> okay, all done
[01:49] <Warbo> y0rgos: Now try restarting X (ctrl-alt-backspace)
[01:50] <Ropechoborra> aMSN is so slow or its a problem of my pc ?
[01:50] <scrappy_> Ropechoborra: what part is slow
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> Yes. :P
[01:50] <ardchoille> y0rgos: You using irssi or is the box you're working on a diff box?
[01:50] <Ropechoborra> scrappy_ Just in the usual chatting...
[01:50] <y0rgos> just one box ardchille
[01:51] <Ropechoborra> Sometimes i press intro.. and 2 o 3 seconds later the message apears
[01:51] <y0rgos> about to restart now *hope this works*
[01:51] <dougsko> ym4546: ok, try this: net use * \\ubuntu\hda5 password /user:yatin
[01:51] <Warbo> y0rgos: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start|stop|restart (where | means or) works as well
[01:51] <ardchoille> y0rgos: cool. I remember my X crashing.. and I thought.. pfft.. I'l fix it later and went back to irssi in a screen session
[01:51] <edju> Wireless, anybody?
[01:51] <ardchoille> I spent a day and a half without X.. didn't miss it much
[01:52] <Warbo> !wireless
[01:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:52] <scrappy_> Ropechoborra: is name resolution in browser and such fast?
[01:52] <dougsko> ym4546: try using the username and pass for your ubuntu box too
[01:52] <DamianFinol> Hey guys, my apt-get, aptitude or synaptic stalls at [Waiting for headers] 
[01:52] <DamianFinol> Any ideas?
[01:52] <ym4546> i did
[01:52] <edju> ubotu, Thanks!
[01:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Thanks! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:52] <damian_> lol
[01:53] <damian_> edju: ubotu is a bot
[01:53] <ym4546> dougsko: i did
[01:53] <Ropechoborra> scrappy_ all aMSN is slow if thats what u mean
[01:53] <edju> Shows what I know.
[01:53] <mcphail> ardchoille: screen rocks
[01:53] <ardchoille> mcphail: indeed :)
[01:53] <eyequeue> DamianFinol, slow mirror?  try another?
[01:53] <eyequeue> !mirrors
[01:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[01:53] <scrappy_> Ropechoborra: like firefox is it fast or kindof slow too pulling up webpages?
[01:54] <jordanau> edju, you wouldn't know unless you have been here a few times
[01:54] <Ropechoborra> scrappy_ is fast... and Gaim is fast too... or xchat... works perfect.. but not aMSN
[01:54] <dougsko> ym4546: try this, type, net /?, to get a list of other net commands, i thin there is one that lists shared drives. sometimes the cache gets messed up and you have to clear the existing drives
[01:55] <ym4546> k
[01:55] <etzerd> hello all
[01:55] <dougsko> ym4546: so basically, you list the shared resources, and then there is another command that will clear the table so to speak. then you can try mounting again
[01:55] <etzerd> ?
[01:55] <jordanau> etzerd, i thought your name was ezterd
[01:55] <dougsko> ym4546: its really funny how linux handles smb so much more gracefully than windows
[01:55] <etzerd> I'm trying to install kubuntu it failed win a message like connection failed
[01:56] <etzerd> that's waht it is jordanau
[01:56] <ym4546> dougsko: its really not funny how linux handles everything much better than windows
[01:56] <trygg> Ehm, how do i save in visualboyadvance?
[01:56] <ym4546> dougsko: esp. when it seems that everyone you know loves windoze
[01:56] <etzerd> I don't kow if some of the distros are old or the server is down
[01:57] <damian_> how do you run a gnome app at startup that requires root priviledges without having to type in the password every time?
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> trygg,  heh -  most of the time emulators use the F keys, or the alt-# keys.
[01:57] <mcphail> It doesn't handle the smb documentation very well :(
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> trygg,  when in doubt check the emulators homepage
[01:57] <Warbo> damian_: If it doesn't need a GUI then you can put it in /etc/init.d/
[01:57] <etzerd> because I cannot install KDE for ubuntu  using the command " sudo install kubuntu-desktop"
[01:57] <bignose_> i installed vncserver before realizeding remote desktop was up in the menu. however if i check off the remote desktop buttons, i can't connect from a remote host. connection refused.
[01:57] <damian_> Warbo: it needs a gui
[01:57] <salah> how do I burn a CD-ISO into a DVD?
[01:57] <Warbo> etzerd: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[01:57] <bignose_> and ps aux|grep vnc shows nothing.
[01:58] <eyequeue> etzerd, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:58] <trygg> Dr_Willis: thanks. :)
[01:58] <dougsko> ym4546: dont be too quick to hate, windows has its place. not everyone wants to get their hands dirty in their computer
[01:58] <etzerd> sorry warbo that is exactly right
[01:58] <vdepizzol> will ubuntu 6.10 come with this grub? http://deb.user.ba.googlepages.com/Capture-ubugrey.png
[01:58] <mcphail> damian_: you could change permissions for the app, but that would be a security risk
[01:58] <etzerd> still all the link failed
[01:58] <scrappy_> http://deb.user.ba.googlepages.com/Capture-ubugrey.png
[01:58] <jordanau> isn't it better to do an aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ??
[01:58] <etzerd> the message for them all is : connection failed
[01:58] <damian_> mcphail: the program needs root priviledges to do waht it does though
[01:58] <dougsko> ym4546: lol but sometimes it is really gay
[01:59] <scrappy_> oops
[01:59] <Warbo> damian_: I set my sudoers file to not require a password at all for gksudo once (by accident, since my user config was screwed and I was trying to fix it). I reinstalled to force the password to come up
[01:59] <etzerd> Even I tried to reinstall ubuntu at a certain point in the installation I have an error display for the Security.
[01:59] <scrappy_> vdepizzol: you can do that splashscreen and stuff in current version if you want
[01:59] <ym4546> dougsko: point well taken...but IMHO, except for interfacing with a windows network, installing ubuntu on my machine was about 20% of the work it took to install windows xp, and it worked out of the box
[01:59] <vdepizzol> scrappy_: yes, by it will come in 6.10 as default?
[02:00] <vdepizzol> s/by/but
[02:00] <arrrgff> aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[02:00] <jordanau> ym4546, consider yourself lucky
[02:00] <Warbo> etzerd: Run "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" then copy one of the addresses (http://something, but only go up to the first space) and try running "ping addressyoucopied"
[02:00] <ym4546> jordanau: perhaps i am
[02:00] <arrrgff> can i use apt not apitiude?
[02:00] <ljlolel> where is $VIM/syntax in ubuntu?
[02:00] <scrappy_> vdepizzol: dunno but it is prettier than current grub setup
[02:00] <jordanau> arrrgff, apt-get
[02:00] <vdepizzol> ok
[02:00] <vdepizzol> thanks
[02:00] <arrrgff> apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[02:01] <arrrgff> is that the same?
[02:01] <mcphail> damian_: you could run it SUID if brave
[02:01] <Warbo> etzerd: Ctrl-C to stop pinging by the way
[02:01] <godtvisken> If I have key <AD01> { [  apostrophe, quotedbl, dead_acute, dead_diaeresis    ]  }; How can I access the forth level (the diaeresis)? I know the first is just the key, the second shift, the third shift and Gr.. but how to get to the last one?
[02:01] <damian_> mcphail: what does that involve
[02:01] <gary[ubuntu] > scrappy: is that grub screen fairly simple to setup?
[02:01] <etzerd> thanks warbo
[02:01] <dougsko> ym4546: very true. but setting up some things like X can be a nightmare. i still havent gotten my s-video out working on my laptop (i only tried for about an hour, but thats an hour i shouldve spent watching a movie)
[02:01] <Warbo> etzerd: That will see if you can actually connect to the site
[02:01] <scrappy_> gary[ubuntu] : well i dont know where that particular one came from but its is easy to setup just the splashscreen
[02:02] <mcphail> damian_: unix permission have a bit which can bet set to allow normal users to run something with the same permissions as the file's owner.
[02:02] <damian_> mcphail: ok so how do I set that bit
[02:02] <arrrgff> Seveas: is : apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential .  The same as aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential   ?
[02:02] <arrrgff> in the result
[02:02] <arrrgff> i mean
[02:03] <dougsko> ym4546: but it sure is easy as hell to set up samba on linux. if you have another linux box, id bet a million bucks you can mount that share in one sec
[02:03] <Seveas> arrrgff, not neccessarily -- aptitude installs recommended packages by default, apt-get not
[02:03] <dasos> anyone not getting sound in flash player?
[02:03] <scrappy_> gary[ubuntu] : im not on ubuntu right now but maybe apt-cache search grub | grep splash for some default images
[02:03] <arrrgff> Seveas: chears i see
[02:03] <mcphail> damian_: google for SUID and it's problems first. It is a dangerous thing to do and you should know the consequences.
[02:04] <DanaG> Anyone have a changelog for the new compiz-vanilla?
[02:04] <Tear> how do you get skype to connect automatically when I start ubuntu
[02:04] <gary[ubuntu] > scrappy_: found it grub-splashimages. thanks
[02:04] <Dan`> Does anyone here have experience with the NVidia 7800GS, I am attempting to install any version of ubuntu and as soon as x is launched I get a kernel panic.
[02:04] <Fenster> anyone know which wine packages I need to install
[02:04] <Seveas> Fenster, merlot, champagne...
[02:04] <mcphail> damian_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid
[02:04] <Fenster> da dum cha
[02:05] <jordanau> !wine > Fenster
[02:05] <gary[ubuntu] > Fenster: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[02:05] <whitesuit> hi, i installed apache and the default place it looks for the pages is /var/www , however to put my pages there i have to constantly use sudo to be able to access that directory. Is there a way to make apache look for pages on a folder inside my home directory , so i dont have to be constantly using sudo ?
[02:05] <Nimwei-> whitesuit - Edit your apache2.conf file in /etc/apache or /etc/apachde2
[02:06] <Fenster> thx jordanau
[02:06] <dougsko> whitesuit: yeah dude, you change the document root. or you can just add yourself to the www group or whatever and make it group writeable
[02:06] <eyequeue> whitesuit, or chgrp it to staff and adduser yourself to staff
[02:06] <david__> does anyone know of anything definite to fix the suspen issue with dapper?
[02:07] <Aphex_Twin> what is the fasters web browser out there?
[02:07] <mcphail> Aphex_Twin: lynx
[02:07] <Aphex_Twin> graphical
[02:07] <eyequeue> Aphex_Twin, telnet
[02:07] <david__> I read in the forums and found something, but it was "i did this and this and it sorta worked" so i was really unsure if i should do anything
[02:08] <Warbo> Aphex_Twin: Dillo?
[02:08] <mcphail> Aphex_Twin: for most browsers, your d'l speed is the rate limiting factor
[02:08] <whitesuit> Nimwei: what should i change there ?
[02:09] <Tear> are there any desktop themes for ubuntu...beside the ones in the distro
[02:09] <eyequeue> whitesuit, DocumentRoot
[02:09] <jrib> !themes > Tear
[02:09] <Warbo> !theme
[02:09] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy
[02:10] <arrrgff> Seveas: which would u do first: load the module then plug in the usb wifi or : plug in the usb wifi then load the module?
[02:10] <Fenster> anyone know a linux tool that will ping a range of ips and show the results?
[02:11] <omnid> !zip
[02:11] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[02:11] <damian_> once I add a file to the init directory do I have to run a command to update it?
[02:11] <gary[ubuntu] > !gaming
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gaming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <Seveas> arrrgff, ideally you just plug in the module and udev loads the driver for you
[02:11] <damian_> !games > gary[ubuntu] 
[02:11] <eyequeue> damian_, man update-rc.d
[02:12] <gary[ubuntu] > thanks
[02:12] <wedTM> so anyways
[02:12] <pipipi> anyone can tell me where the CD Writer with  Ubuntu is located?
[02:12] <pipipi> I can't find it for any reason.
[02:12] <arrrgff> Seveas: yeah but to answer my question thats plug it in first ?
[02:12] <scrappy_> pipipi: you can use the file manager but you might want to install k3b
[02:12] <Aphex_Twin> mcphail: if you have Mb-wide band, your dl is not limiting
[02:13] <pipipi> i have Gnome though
[02:13] <pipipi> k3b is for KDE right?
[02:13] <scrappy_> pipipi: yes but you can install and run it fine
[02:13] <Seveas> arrrgff, if the automatic thing doesn't work: it doesn't really matter what you do first
[02:13] <pipipi> ok
[02:13] <arrrgff> Seveas: how can i cheak for udev working?
[02:13] <Seveas> arrrgff, sudo udevmonitor
[02:13] <pipipi> yeah I want to burn .mp3 to CD AUDIO
[02:13] <scrappy_> pipipi: the gnome alternative is gnomebaker but its not as nice
[02:13] <Seveas> and then plug the device in
[02:13] <pipipi> yeah im installing k3b
[02:13] <pipipi> thanks :)
[02:14] <Seveas> arrrgff, neh, I rather spend time on ubuntu
[02:14] <ardchoille> Seveas: :)
[02:14] <scrappy_> pipipi: also install libk3b2-mp3
[02:15] <visik7> anyone had try to compile xen-3.0 from edgy to dapper
[02:15] <visik7> ?
[02:18] <TX> hey people
[02:18] <_paul> hi, just wondering if anyone can tell me any more if theres being any word on lightscribe support in linux..?
[02:19] <fensta> anyone know a good ubuntu supported widget/program launcher?
[02:19] <kendrick> hrm, how do i add locales in ubuntu?
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> fensta,  theres superkaramba,gdesklets, various windowmaker dock applets..
[02:19] <argument> adesklets > gdesklets
[02:19] <kendrick> in debian, i'd do "dpkg-reconfigure locales" and it'd give me a list to pick from (curses gui)
[02:19] <argument> pypanel is ok
[02:19] <mcphail> aargh - gdesklets
[02:20] <Dr_Willis>  I perfer windowmaker dock apps myself
[02:20] <fensta> anyone in particular widely used (totally kick ass)?
[02:20] <Mattchewie> Man, I'm bummed, I can't seem to get Ubuntu to work on PPC :(
[02:20] <crimsun> kendrick: locale-gen. Take the first-column, white-space delimited list from /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED
[02:20] <pipipi> damn
[02:20] <pipipi> k3b doesn't burn .mp3's ?
[02:20] <kendrick> when i run that in ubuntu, it just seems to run locale-gen w/o asking me anything first
[02:20] <argument> fensta, there's a copy of the OSX Dock for KDE somewhere
[02:20] <mcphail> pipipi: install the other package mentioned above
[02:20] <TX> Hey... can anyone suggest what to do if my Builtin Realtek card in my laptop dies during large file transfers (SMB) in ubuntu?
[02:20] <argument> fensta, in fact there are a couple of those
[02:20] <kendrick> crimsun: i'll take a look
[02:20] <Mattchewie> pipipi, you have to install the restricted formats pacakges
[02:20] <erdrick> the latest ati radeon drivers are broken can someone give me some direction on how i can install the previous drivers ??
[02:20] <pipipi> ok got it
[02:20] <Mattchewie> hehe ati drivers broke!!...NEVER :D
[02:20] <erdrick> the manual only explains how to get the latest
[02:20] <fensta> im using gnome
[02:21] <pipipi> appreciated guys :)
[02:21] <crimsun> kendrick: e.g., locale-gen ar_BH.UTF-8 zh_TW.UTF-8 [..] 
[02:21] <kendrick> crimsun: run locale-gen with the locales i want?
[02:21] <kendrick> ah cool
[02:21] <Mattchewie> Anyone here run Ubuntu on PPC? (dapper)?
[02:21] <kendrick> i'll try:  sudo locale-gen `cut -d " " /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED  -f 1`
[02:21] <argument> Mattchewie, you're not gonna get the ATI drivers or flash working on PPC Ubuntu
[02:22] <kendrick> thx crimsun
[02:22] <pipipi> do you know if k3b will convert the .mp3 into CD Audio to be playable with a standard CD player?
[02:22] <kendrick> pipipi: yes
[02:22] <mcphail> pipipi: yes
[02:22] <pipipi> hehe ok
[02:22] <Mattchewie> argument, really?!......bah...
[02:22] <kendrick> that's how i made my KOMPRESSOR and MCFrontalot discs ;)
[02:22] <argument> Mattchewie, really, you're better off paying $30 for a copy of Jaguar or Panther
[02:23] <kendrick> btw, if anyone here is going to Ubucon this week (after LWE), don't forget to go to the Linux pinic!  ( http://www.linuxpicnic.org/ )
[02:23] <Mattchewie> I tried Yellow Dog, ......everything semied fine untill it booted up after install........then this AMAZING hum came from th speakers
[02:23] <argument> Mattchewie, i tried it on an iBook already... it works, but the lack of flash and ATI was just no good
[02:23] <kendrick> there's a bit of crossover, and i think day2 of ubucon will end early enough for people to go to the picnic :)
[02:23] <loma> What is the fastest en easyest way to be able to watch a divx movie?
[02:23] <Mattchewie> .....I guess I go to compusa tomorrow and pick up tiger again
[02:23] <Mattchewie> :(
[02:23] <jrib> !divx > loma
[02:24] <Warbo> Mattchewie: What card do you have?
[02:24] <scrappy_> Mattchewie: gut the mac and build a pc :)
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> gentoo pppc :P
[02:24] <loma> jrib, ??
[02:24] <loma> oh
[02:24] <Mattchewie> scrappy, ...hehe I'm about there
[02:24] <jrib> loma: it's a message for ubotu :)
[02:24] <kendrick> ok, off to test tux paint some more :)
[02:24] <kendrick> cya
[02:24] <fensta> argument,  is there one for gnome that you particularly recommend?
[02:25] <loma> jrib, cant find anything about divx?
[02:25] <rockzman> Can anyone help me with my .xsession-errors?
[02:25] <Mattchewie> Cause..I mean I like OSX...but I dislike the fact that I like zero options for programs. If I want to replace iTunes (cause I really dislike iTunes)....I got to use fink or soemthing cause no one seems to make a 3rd party media player for OSX
[02:26] <Mattchewie> Warbo, Uhh .....what ever mac uses for thier audio..I'm not quite forsure
[02:26] <Flannel> Mattchewie: welcome to vendor lock in ;)
[02:26] <mcphail> Mattchewie: i suppose it depends on whether you find lack of flash a problem
[02:26] <Mattchewie> Flannel, hahah Its a horrible day when I say "wow, Windows has more "choice"    and then I vomit in my shoes
[02:26] <Brokenstein> hey does anyone know how to edit mp3's tags in rhythmbox?
[02:26] <mcphail> Mattchewie: some people would view it as a bonus :)
[02:27] <argument> fensta, yeah it's called the gnome-panel, it comes with gnome
[02:27] <jrib> loma: if you install the recommended packages in the help.ubuntu.com docs you should be able to play it.  I believe gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg is the actual package that provides support for divx, but you should just install them all if you want to play multimedia
[02:27] <Dasnipa`> ding a ding dang my ding a long ling long
[02:27] <argument> fensta, are you trying to improve speed? or what
[02:27] <Mattchewie> mcphail, See, the flash thing doesn't bother me but I was trying to turn the PPC into a Linux DAW....so I'm sure that the lack of vid drivers wouldn't be good either
[02:28] <fensta> argument, eyecandy mostly.. and a place to launch my fav apps
[02:28] <argument> Mattchewie, ewww, no way man, get a PC if you want linux daw
[02:28] <argument> Mattchewie, actually i'm quite an expert on that subject if you care to join me in PM
[02:28] <mcphail> Mattchewie: daw = digital audio workstation?
[02:28] <ardchoille> Mattchewie: DAW = ?
[02:28] <argument> Mattchewie, i've researched the linux daw situation in depth
[02:28] <ardchoille> ah, ok
[02:28] <loma> jrib, how do i install them? using apt-get?
[02:28] <argument> DAW = Digital Audio Workstation
[02:28] <Mattchewie> Yes Daw = Digital audio workstation :D
[02:28] <Mattchewie> Oooo, Yeah pm it up argument
[02:29] <jrib> loma: yes, apt-get or synaptic if you prefer gui
[02:29] <Moodles> I have a problem with my ubuntu install, when I boot up it hangs on "Waiting for root filesystem"
[02:29] <loma> jrib, what command? apt-get (not install?) name?
[02:29] <jrib> loma: apt-get install package_name
[02:30] <jrib> loma: sudo apt-get install package_name
[02:30] <Rookie-> Moodles - sounds like you forgot to mount up /
[02:30] <TX> Anyone, any idea's on why eth0 just stops sending/receiving packets half way through a large file transfer, and needs a system reboot to work again (realtek 8139too driver)
[02:30] <nixconve1ter> what is the source used when using apt-get to install software
[02:30] <loma> jrib, can't find package
[02:30] <Moodles> Rookie-: this install is 6 months old, it's only today it has started doing it
[02:30] <jrib> nixconve1ter: the repositories listed in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:30] <Brokenstein> TX i have a guess
[02:30] <fensta> hey guys.. can I run an app with root privs. in gnome
[02:30] <fensta> ?
[02:30] <scrappy_> Moodles: are you able to boot in recovery mode?
[02:30] <loma> jrib, I have tryed to update..
[02:31] <Rookie-> TX - check so you dont have more then 1 module installed and in work
[02:31] <DamianFinol> with sudo, yes
[02:31] <godtvisken> What's a good network music server?
[02:31] <jrib> loma: you'll need to enable universe and/or multiverse for some packages, the guide should have a link on how to do this.  If not, just let me know
[02:31] <nixconve1ter> jrib:  thanks
[02:31] <loma> jrib, this is the problem whit linux =) there is alwas a hatch
[02:31] <mcphail> godtvisken: gnump3d
[02:31] <godtvisken> er, streamer
[02:31] <godtvisken> thanks
[02:32] <TX> rookie... ok.. will check
[02:32] <TX> brokenstein what was your guess?
[02:32] <Brokenstein> is anyone here familiar with rhythmbox?
[02:32] <nixconve1ter> jrib: where should I look for ftp sites of repositories for this
[02:32] <jrib> !repos > nixconve1ter
[02:32] <an0malist> hi im trying to install ubuntu but i need to resize my reiserFS partition
[02:32] <jrib> nixconve1ter: what exactly are you looking for?  a particular program?
[02:32] <Rookie-> realtec can sometimes install and use up to 3 modules, 8139too, 8139cp and fealnx
[02:33] <Brokenstein> oh yeah TX could be your modem isnt really rated to handle provided bandwidth... modem goin to sleep on you
[02:33] <omnid> !vmware > omnid
[02:33] <an0malist> on the ubuntu live CD, QTParted doesn't seem to allow me to resize my ReiserFS partition..how can I do that so I can create a new partition for ubuntu?
[02:33] <Brokenstein> things have been easier for me since i went back to 768k
[02:34] <nixconve1ter> jrib: no not specifically but I'm going to install subversion and I didn't know whether to install for an online repository or if I should use the cd or download and install from source
[02:34] <Moodles> I waitied for it, and it says "ALERT: /dev/sdb2 does not exist, dropping to shell".. do I need to reboot into recovery mode or is this shell enough?
[02:34] <TX> Rookie... ahh... got 8139too and 8139cp (did an lsmod as root)
[02:34] <Moodles> ls
[02:35] <Moodles> oops
[02:35] <TX> next steps @ rookie?
[02:35] <jrib> nixconve1ter: it's usually best to use the repositories.  If you have the cd-rom repository enabled in your sources.list then apt will use it if the package is available from the cd.  If you are using the gui, you have synaptic available to you as well
[02:35] <an0malist> anyone?  resizing a reiserfs?
[02:35] <Rookie-> well, remove and blacklist 8139cp
[02:35] <jrib> !info subversion
[02:35] <ubotu> subversion: advanced version control system (aka. svn). In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.1-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 3016 kB
[02:36] <jrib> nixconve1ter: 'sudo apt-get install subversion' should just work since it is in the main repository
[02:36] <nixconve1ter> jrib: no GUI i'm using server, but apt instead of source
[02:36] <Rookie-> to make it eaven easier and better (i prefer it) edit modprobe.conf too - under /etc
[02:36] <nixconve1ter> jrib: where can I find a repository list...will there already be some lists in the config file mentioned earlier
[02:37] <jrib> nixconve1ter: yes there should already be repositories in your sources.list (as well as some commented ones).  ubotu should have sent you a private message with more info about repositories
[02:37] <TX> rookie.... best way to go about blacklisting 8139cp?
[02:37] <loma> jrib, can't get it to work
[02:37] <nixconve1ter> jrib: private msg
[02:37] <nixconve1ter> jrib: ??
[02:37] <jrib> !repos > nixconve1ter
[02:37] <Rookie-> i check, not sure in ubuntu
[02:38] <jrib> nixconve1ter: did you get a private message from ubotu now?
[02:38] <nixconve1ter> jrib: oh there is a !repos command
[02:38] <jrib> loma: which particular package is giving you trouble?
[02:38] <Rookie-> TX - edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:39] <JoshYme1> i'm trying to configure my wifi card..   i've installed NDIS..  i ran lspci - is that accurate in determine the chipset that I have ??
[02:41] <Rookie-> TX - seems like you can add your aliases for eth in the same directory, in the file "aliases" (ubuntu dosent follow linuxstandard)
[02:41] <fensta> yikes
[02:41] <tin_nqn> Hi folks! ... I need to install Xubuntu dapper in a machine with 192 mb. of ram. ubuntu (dapper) won't boot as a live cd. would xubuntu?
[02:41] <fensta> turns out this app I wanna install with wine requires .net framework.. am I shit outta luck htere?
[02:41] <DanaG> Is it possible to rename eth1 to wlan0?
[02:42] <loma> jrib, I think i have added the hole world to the "packet manager" still no match
[02:42] <jrib> jrib: what is the name of the package?
[02:42] <jrib> erm
[02:42] <Rookie-> tin_nqn - recomended is 256 when you run with X - server
[02:42] <warlock> Symbolic link, I need /home/cs/1 to be /var/www/cstrike <(a dir), anyone?
[02:43] <jrib> loma: what is the name of the package?  and please post your sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:43] <frfx> i run ubuntu on a 300mhz with 128mb ram with gnome..runs pretty good
[02:43] <jrib> warlock: which one do you want to be a symbolic link?
[02:43] <loma> jrib, think I found something, but not 0.10 as it says in your link but 0.8
[02:43] <tin_nqn> rookie: i know, but I only have 192 mb. is there a solution?
[02:43] <Rookie-> warlock - go to /var/www - type ln -s /home/cs/1 cstrike
[02:43] <jrib> loma: are you using dapper?
[02:44] <Rookie-> tin_nqn - forget X
[02:44] <yoshiznit123> danag: yea, change /etc/iftab
[02:44] <TX> ok @ rookie... added to blacklist... will stop stop the module loading even at bootup... and why would i want to add aliases?? *confused*
[02:44] <loma> jrib,  Not sure whats it called, im using the graphic one
[02:45] <tin_nqn> Rookie-, okay, but how could isntall it whitout x?
[02:45] <warlock> Rookie-, I want /home/cs/cstrike to be in /var/www/cstrike/. Is that how ?
[02:45] <Rookie-> TX - to force the system to load that specific module ... brutal force ;)
[02:45] <frfx> tin_nqn: i think that isnt true..you can run X pretty good on 192..but maybe just try?
[02:45] <jrib> loma: dapper is a version of ubuntu, you can check which one you are using by doing 'lsb_release -c' in a terminal
[02:45] <warlock> atm I haeva file in the /var/www/ dir called cstrke, I did ln -s /home/cs/cstrike /var/www/cstrike
[02:46] <loma> jrib, breezy
[02:46] <tin_nqn> frfx, i tried to boot ubuntu dapper, and it wouldn't run. i wonder, xubuntu could?
[02:46] <Rookie-> man ln works otherwise
[02:46] <loma> jrib, lol, now its asking me for the cd-rom =(
[02:46] <jrib> loma: ah ok, then you are correct, you want the 0.8 versions.  You may want to consider upgrading to dapper though
[02:46] <TX> so ive blacklisted 8139cp... which causes it never to allow the 8139cp module to be loaded.... now i need to edit eth0's alias to make sure 8139too is loaded?? am i correct?
[02:47] <nixconve1ter> I just did a server install...what is the command to get all my updates current
[02:47] <jrib> loma: you can stop if from asking you for the cdrom and just use the online repos all the time by commenting the cdrom line in your /etc/apt/sources.list and the running 'sudo apt-get update'
[02:47] <frfx> tin_nqn: i dont think your system is too low..maybe you have rare hardware..i dont know..just try
[02:47] <jrib> nixconve1ter: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:47] <nixconve1ter> jrib: thanks
[02:47] <TX> NIXCONVE1... 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[02:47] <warlock> Rookie-, aint telling me much
[02:47] <Rookie-> yes and no ... you force the system to only load 8139too for your eth ... since you need to tell in aliases (it seems to be that way in ubuntu) that it is for eth0
[02:48] <TX> and the blacklist tells it not to ever load 8139cp?
[02:48] <Rookie-> default in linuxsystem it is in modprobe.conf ...
[02:48] <Rookie-> yes
[02:48] <loma> jrib, I took "ignore" and now the program wont start, why dose it always have to be this hard in linux? =P
[02:48] <TX> cool
[02:48] <tin_nqn> frfx,- the boot stops almost inmediatly, something memory related (I dont remember exactly and the machine is far away)
[02:48] <TX> i'll give that a try
[02:48] <TX> cheets man
[02:48] <TX> *cheers
[02:49] <jrib> loma: I don't understand what you mean?  "ignore" where?
[02:49] <loma> jrib, when it asked for the cd-rom
[02:49] <warlock> Symbolic link help? -> I want /home/cs/publics/fun/cstrike to be linked to /var/www/cstrike (((so the /var/www/cstrike is /home/cs/publics/fun/cstrike))) anyone ?
[02:49] <frfx> tin_nqn: maybe your ram is broken? or runs another operating system better? like win98
[02:49] <jrib> loma: oh
[02:50] <Rookie-> warlock - just go to your www directory - type "ln -s /home/cs1 cstrike" you will then have a symlink in www directory to your cs
[02:50] <warlock> ok
[02:50] <warlock> let me test :)
[02:50] <tin_nqn> frfx, broken ram? it runs win9X without problems
[02:50] <loma> jrib, how do i reinstall it? =P
[02:50] <jrib> loma: did synaptic close now?
[02:51] <Rookie-> ehh /home/cs/1
[02:51] <warlock> there we go, cheers Rookie- !
[02:51] <Rookie-> told you so the first time ;)
[02:51] <JoshYme1> i have a windows self extracting .exe - how can I make it extract the files under linux???
[02:51] <gnomefreak> JoshYme1: you cant
[02:52] <Rookie-> but then .... the command "man" is not any popular one *grins evily*
[02:52] <gnomefreak> JoshYme1: wine might run it but depends on what it is
[02:52] <jasmuz> Hello all
[02:52] <frfx> tin_nqn: so your hardware is ok..i think you better try xubuntu
[02:52] <loma> jrib, think I closed it, trying to remove the add now to get totem to work again
[02:52] <JoshYme1> gnomefreak, linksys drivers that i need to load with ndis
[02:52] <jrib> loma: here is the appropriate doc for breezy: https://help.ubuntu.com/5.10/ubuntu/faq/C/sect-music-and-movies.html#codecs
[02:53] <tin_nqn> frfx, ok, i would like to know, someone knows for sure if xubuntu would boot graphic with 192 mb. of ram?
[02:53] <loma> jrib, think I just fucked up my media player, now it wont start at all, nothing happens
[02:53] <Rookie-> warlock - I really suggest you make a "index.html" file in that symlinked directory
[02:54] <loma> jrib, how can I reinstall it or somthing?
[02:54] <jasmuz> JoshYme1, wine can
[02:54] <warlock> Rookie-, will do. And I ened to do another thing, sorry though.
[02:54] <jrib> loma: 'ps -ef | grep totem', anything turn up?
[02:54] <frfx> tin_nqn: nobody will know for sure..but 192 is enough believe me..you can only try
[02:54] <Rookie-> tin_nqn - noone can be sure until someone is testing ...
[02:54] <warlock> how do I make so people dont havea ccess to a few files in that dir Rookie- ?
[02:54] <Renan_s2> tin_nqn, more memory wouldn't hurt
[02:55] <Rookie-> they have to type your url and continue with /cstrike
[02:55] <MarcN> tin_nqn: not for sure, but I have system with only 384M.  booting isn't the issue, trying to run a full GUI with apps is he issue.
[02:55] <MarcN> tin_nqn: would make a fine web/print/file server
[02:55] <enjahova> I am having trouble with my broadcom wireless card. I followed the instructions for dapper and Network Manager shows a healthy connection. The problem seems that I have a very strange IP address now and I cannot connect to the internet. can anyone help?
[02:55] <Rookie-> i.e www.test.com/cstrike
[02:55] <warlock> Rookie-, wait: I know. I want to 'lock' a few files from being accessed through that, ex mydomain.com/cstrike/aservercfgperhaps.cfg
[02:56] <loma> jrib, yep, killed it and now it starts, thanks
[02:56] <Dodzey> where is the setting for which NIC system monitor watches
[02:56] <tin_nqn> frfx, Rookie, Renan_s2, MArcN, thanks to all, i ask because i have to download xubuntu and i want to be sure. is a desktop machina btw, not a server
[02:56] <Rookie-> more then i know of, i know networking not apache .... but i belive it is in .htaccess you can set permissions
[02:57] <warlock> ok Rookie-..
[02:57] <jasmuz> Can anyone give me a good ping?
[02:57] <frfx> tin_nqn: np..i wish you good luck..if it doesnt work try "Damn Small Linux": linux for older hardware
[02:58] <loma> jrib, the problem sill remains thow, how do I install the "gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg" package
[02:58] <MarcN> tin_nqn: make sure you have a bunch of swap space -- ~512M should be fine.   Remember not to run a bunch of apps at the same time or it will start to swap and performance will suck.  A xterm and firefox would be fine or oowriter instead of firefox.
[02:58] <Rookie-> with 192 in ram ... i would test slackware ... my favo *grins*
[02:58] <jrib> !info gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[02:58] <ubotu> Package gstreamer08-ffmpeg does not exist in dapper
[02:58] <jrib> !info gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg breezy
[02:58] <ubotu> Package gstreamer08-ffmpeg does not exist in breezy
[02:58] <Rookie-> slackware with gnome wants 128
[02:58] <loma> jrib, yey! it works!
[02:59] <loma> jrib, I used apt-get this time, whit the proper 0.8. works perfectly, thanks a lot for the help!
[02:59] <jrib> loma: np
[02:59] <Renan_s2> my 1st Linux box had 32MB RAM... worked well for its time (1999)
[03:00] <Rookie-> smallest dist is 45 MB ...
[03:00] <Posty_> Is there a way to disable my AC97 in Ubuntu without disabling it in the BIOS?
[03:00] <enjahova> is there another channel where I can get wireless support?
[03:01] <JackMacOKC> enjahova: whats the problem?
[03:01] <RadiantFire> Posty_: remove the module
[03:01] <nuaimat> hi guys , how can i control the time period which ubuntu keeps knowing that i am verified root, without asking me everytime for a password ?
[03:01] <jasmuz> Posty_, what for?
[03:01] <Posty_> jasmuz, WINE keeps defaulting my AC97
[03:01] <tin_nqn> MarcN, frfx, DSL is an alternative, but i wanted to go de xubuntu route if possible, given its larger community, better support, etc. i guess i will download xubuntu and try
[03:01] <scrappy_> Posty_: i guess you might blacklist the driver
[03:01] <Posty_> So I have to unplug my audio cord whenever I want to run GTA3 and stuff
[03:01] <Posty_> :P
[03:01] <Posty_> scrappy_, how so?
[03:01] <Rookie-> nuaimat - sudo su -
[03:02] <enjahova> jackmacokc: i have a broadcom wireless card. I was able to set it up and I can connect to access points around me, but I dont have internet. It seems i get a weird IP address
[03:02] <tin_nqn> Thanks to all of you and sorry for the broken english
[03:02] <jasmuz> Posty_, :s ...
[03:02] <Posty_> I just started using Ubuntu not long ago, and this is my first Linux experience. So I don't know all the ins and outs yet
[03:02] <JackMacOKC> enjahova: what ip address is it getting?
[03:02] <MarcN> tin_nqn: go with xubuntu.  it is probably your best bet to autodetect hardware.  Anyway you can add more memory?
[03:02] <nuaimat> Rookie-: i am talking in gnome , not the terminal
[03:02] <Linuturk> with wine, there is a system tray adapter that opens in a window. Is there anyway to get this to open on the regular system tray where gaim and xchat keeps it's icons?
[03:02] <enjahova> one sec, im checking it by looking in network tools/devices
[03:02] <MarcN> tin_nqn: also after you are installed, consider turning off stuff like the printer daemon, etc
[03:03] <Rookie-> nuaimat - ohh, dunno gui (running servers)
[03:03] <JackMacOKC> enjahova: or from a terminal, type 'ifconfig'
[03:03] <enjahova> ok
[03:03] <pushpop> One last question, I was searching for the skydome plugin for a while.  I was unable to find a download link.  Anyone happen to know where I could download it from off hand?
[03:03] <scrappy_> Posty_: ive never used it but you might do 'gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist'  and type blacklist drivername
[03:03] <enjahova> JackMacOKC:  169.254.38.234 with subnet 255.255.0.0
[03:03] <nuaimat> pushpop: what is skydome ??
[03:04] <enjahova> i should be geting a 192.168 address from my router
[03:04] <JackMacOKC> enjahova: ok, that means your not connecting with an AP
[03:04] <tin_nqn> MarcN, the machine uses DIMMs, and I have difficulties finding a module more. I'll ask my friends anyway
[03:04] <pushpop> It shows clouds in the backround when your roatating your cube.
[03:04] <nuaimat> !skydome
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skydome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <Rookie-> www.google.com is your best friend, best linuxcommands are "man" and "apropos"
[03:04] <JackMacOKC> enjahova: or more specifically, it means you're not retrieving an IP address from DHCP
[03:04] <omnid_> "'VMware Player' is not available in any software channel. The application might not support your system architecture."
[03:04] <enjahova> JackMacOKC: ? how can i tell? network-manager says im connected to a valid essid
[03:04] <omnid_> I get this message more than with this what is wrong?
[03:04] <enjahova> JackMacOKC:  what do you think i can do about it?
[03:04] <omnid_> I know it does support my system architecture!!
[03:05] <JackMacOKC> enjahova: are you using wep security?
[03:05] <nuaimat> guys , how can i know my dial up connection speed ??
[03:05] <Posty_> scrappy_, how do I find the driver name for the AC97?
[03:05] <enjahova> JackMacOKC:  not on this network
[03:05] <Rookie-> 169.* is ms standard iptrange "apipa"
[03:05] <scrappy_> Posty_: you can type lsmod to see current loaded drivers
[03:06] <Posty_> scrappy_, so I'm guessing that this would be the one I would blacklist?
[03:06] <Posty_> snd_ac97_codec
[03:06] <scrappy_> Posty_: bear in mind im not saying it will def work but yes
[03:07] <tin_nqn> thaks. good bye
[03:07] <enjahova> JackMacOKC:  is there a way to turn on dhcp with ifconfig?
[03:07] <Posty_> scrappy_, thanks. Should I just logout/login to see if it worked?
[03:07] <nuaimat> guys , someone help me please ?
[03:08] <nuaimat> how can i get my dial up connection speed ?
[03:08] <nuaimat> i am using ubuntu 6.06
[03:08] <nuaimat> with a dial up modem
[03:08] <seshomaru> hello - i have a hardware question, i ran a 128M rom machine - if I add another 256M - will it be alright?
[03:08] <loma> is there any proper torrent client for ubuntu? =S
[03:08] <Dasnipa`> they still make dial up modems? seriously are you in the ice age?
[03:08] <Rookie-> seshomaru - that will do great
[03:09] <seshomaru> Rookie-,  do i have to do something , after i add the emory?
[03:09] <Rookie-> thou i would prefer some more ... RAM dosent cost so much these days
[03:09] <nuaimat> Dasnipa`: no , i am in 2006  , but we are poor people
[03:09] <scrappy_> Posty_: might reboot
[03:09] <TX> can someone remind me the command to defeat the 'Shift and backspace Kills X' Bug?
[03:09] <jasmuz> nuaimat, speed-applet is good
[03:09] <loma> is it possible to somehow use the "TV" to watch movies on the tv using ubuntu?
[03:09] <JackMacOKC> enjahova: i PM'd you
[03:09] <Posty_> scrappy_, will do
[03:09] <Rookie-> nah, just like lego .... put it in and boot up
[03:09] <Posty_> I'll be back and tell you the result
[03:09] <mikeg> hi
[03:09] <Posty_> ;)
[03:09] <nuaimat> jasmuz: where  i can find speed applet ?
[03:09] <magice> Can anyone help me with an nvidia problem?
[03:09] <jasmuz> loma, proper there are many....good ktorrent is nice
[03:10] <mikeg> is unionfs supported by ubuntu?
[03:10] <jasmuz> Dasnipa`,i still have dialup...please dont discriminate
[03:10] <magice> I just installed the Nvidia drivers and it hangs on the NV splash screen unless i put nvidia back to nv
[03:10] <jasmuz> nuaimat, under apt-cache search foo
[03:10] <loma> jasmuz,  I just tryed that one, "can't open torrent file" bla bla
[03:10] <jasmuz> loma, then you can use the default Gnome BT client
[03:11] <seshomaru> Rookie - thanks.....
[03:11] <seshomaru> Adios
[03:11] <magice> Does anyone have any idea why my computer hangs on the Nvidia splash screen?
[03:11] <nuaimat> jasmuz: thanks
[03:12] <Linuturk> any idea why my gnome panel's dock applets (menu's calendar ect) are rearranged whenever I launch a full screen app (such as Homeworld) ?
[03:12] <void^> loma: azureus
[03:12] <loma> void^, thats a good one, how do I get it?
[03:12] <magice> umm does anyone know if there are known problems w/compadiibility with Nvidia 5700GO?
[03:12] <void^> !info azureus
[03:12] <ubotu> azureus: BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.0.2-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 5680 kB, installed size 6408 kB
[03:13] <nuaimat> void^: doesn't azureus required java runtime ?
[03:13] <void^> !java
[03:13] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:13] <enjahova> JackMacOKC: are you receiving my pms?
[03:13] <nuaimat> anybody from JORDAN ??
[03:13] <Posty_> scrappy_, didn't work
[03:13] <dm_> how do install from a SH file
[03:14] <Posty_> So what's that command again? Just so I can undo the change
[03:14] <magice> are there any other ubuntu support channels or is this the only one?
[03:14] <nuaimat> dm_ just type it's name
[03:14] <scrappy_> Posty_: i kinda doubted :) i guess you can just sudo modprobe -r modulename
[03:14] <Posty_> scrappy_, what exactly does that do?
[03:14] <EpP-PocketPC> dm_, sudo ./<filename>
[03:14] <nuaimat> magice: there's too many try /list
[03:14] <magice> thanks
[03:15] <Administrateur> il y a des francais?
[03:15] <void^> !fr
[03:15] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:15] <dm_> COMMAND NOT FOUND
[03:15] <Posty_> scrappy_, mind if you explain this stuff in a PM so I can keep track of it?
[03:15] <dm_> sudo: ./install-crossover-standard-demo-5.0.3.sh: command not found
[03:15] <JackMacOKC> enjahova: no i am not
[03:15] <Renan_s2> dm_,  sudo sh ./<filename>
[03:15] <EpP-PocketPC> dm_, are you in the same folder as the file?
[03:15] <enjahova> JackMacOKC: strange
[03:15] <Renan_s2> or chmod +x the file, then run it
[03:16] <dm_> lol .... im stupid
[03:16] <enjahova> JackMacOKC: now my machine is freezing when trying to start up network manager
[03:16] <EpP-PocketPC> Renan_s2, ^5
[03:16] <EpP-PocketPC> lol
[03:16] <enjahova> JackMacOKC: ill probably just have to return this because an integrated wifi card should not be this muhc of a headache
[03:16] <JackMacOKC> enjahova: it usually isnt, but it all depends on what kind of chipset its using
[03:17] <loma> is it hard to update to "dapper"?
[03:17] <enjahova> JackMacOKC: yeah, its a broadcom 4310. I can find info on every other kind, but nobody seems to have this one
[03:17] <JackMacOKC> loma: i've had mixed results, and i've tried all the methods on various boxes
[03:17] <diffuser78> hi can anybody help me with copy and paste ion VI editor
[03:17] <JackMacOKC> enjahova: what kind of laptop
[03:17] <jrib> !upgrade > loma
[03:18] <EpP-PocketPC> loma, its worth it.
[03:18] <enjahova> JackMacOKC: gateway, would have to go get the box to see model #
[03:18] <facugaich> Say I install a package and it install a lot of dependancies (like libs and all that sort of stuff), is there a way to easily eliminate those dependancies without having to search for each
[03:18] <jrib> diffuser78: you yank and put, y yanks and p puts
[03:18] <magice> Does anyone have ANY idea why when i install the nvidia drivers it hangs on the splash screen?
[03:18] <nuaimat> guys, i have a friend online, i am chatting with him on gaim , he is too much into microsoft, and he didn't agree that ubuntu is better, he is asking "mention one thing i can do in ubuntu that i can't do in xp" ?? can anyone suggest a proper answer ?
[03:19] <jacky> Hi, all. Can anyone tell me how to create a Package from "pool"?
[03:19] <visik7> facugaich: if you have used aptitude you can remove the package and aptitude take care or of unused dependancies
[03:19] <JackMacOKC> enjahova: well most likely we're talking about an intel chipset and intel wireless chipset
[03:19] <jbroome> nuaimat: put your machine on the internet w/o a firewall
[03:19] <facugaich> visik7: synaptix
[03:19] <jacky> Hi, all. Can anyone tell me how to create a Packages file from "pool"?
[03:19] <facugaich> visik7: synaptic*
[03:19] <visik7> facugaich: should do it too
[03:19] <visik7> or not ?
[03:19] <enjahova> JackMacOKC: yeah, im pretty sure it is
[03:19] <nuaimat> jbroome: thats kinda right , yeah , thanks
[03:19] <JackMacOKC> enjahova: and you can connect with other machines to this AP?
[03:19] <fensta> mount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected, mounting read-only
[03:19] <fensta> mount: /dev/hdd already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy
[03:19] <fensta> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdd is already mounted on /media/cdrom0
[03:19] <enjahova> JackMacOKC: my macbook pro is on it right now talking to you
[03:19] <facugaich> visik7: mmm, I don't think so, maybe sometimes
[03:19] <fensta> can someone help me with that?
[03:20] <xolot1> is there any way to schedule/limit my internet bandwidth?
[03:20] <JackMacOKC> enjahova: gotcha, ok..
[03:20] <enjahova> JackMacOKC: and ive had a acer come through here with ubuntu installed work just fine
[03:20] <visik7> facugaich: try aptitude anyway
[03:20] <JackMacOKC> isnt ndiswrapper included in dapper?
[03:20] <EpP-PocketPC> enjahova, so your using airport extreme?
[03:20] <magice> Other than nvidia-glx and automatix are there any other nvidia solutions i can try that wont lock me up on the splash screen?
[03:20] <enjahova> i dont think ndiswrapper is included
[03:20] <visik7> JackMacOKC: the module yes the util is to be installed
[03:20] <enjahova> i could try following those instructions
[03:21] <EpP-PocketPC> magice , easy ubuntu?
[03:21] <magice> hm what is that?
[03:21] <JackMacOKC> enjahova: could be an issue with ndiswrapper
[03:21] <xolot1> is there any way to schedule/limit my internet bandwidth?
[03:21] <enjahova> well i did a fresh install without using ndiswrapper
[03:21] <nuaimat> guys , i am using a dial up connection , if i install squid to this machine do u think it will improve browsing speed ?
[03:21] <JackMacOKC> enjahova: kernel support for intel chipsets is there for a few, but not all - IIRC
[03:22] <enjahova> JackMacOKC: yeah i had to get custom firmware installed. it still doesnt play nice =\
[03:22] <JackMacOKC> enjahova: doesnt play nice with ndiswrapper?
[03:22] <enjahova> JackMacOKC: i didnt even use ndiswrapper. its a special prog for this chipset bcm43xx-fwcutter
[03:23] <enjahova> my chipset is broadcom 4310
[03:23] <enjahova> all the guides are for 4318 and 4306 it seems
[03:23] <magice> anyone have any idea what would cause X to compltley lockdown at the nvidia splash screenw ith the new drivers?
[03:23] <EpP-PocketPC> enjahova, airport extremes are trouble.
[03:24] <enjahova> is that what this is?
[03:24] <fensta> hey guys.. if I want to browse into a folder that has a space in the name.. how do I represent that space in terminal
[03:24] <EpP-PocketPC> if its a mac
[03:24] <enjahova> no its a gateway
[03:24] <nuaimat> fensta: use '\ ' without quotes
[03:24] <JackMacOKC> enjahova: might be that your chipset is too new
[03:24] <enjahova> im using a mac to get help for this laptop
[03:24] <enjahova> hmm
[03:24] <nuaimat> fensta: that's a \ and a space
[03:24] <fensta> the old escape char
[03:24] <fensta> thx
[03:25] <killdashnine> hello, i have another question
[03:25] <enjahova> well anybody know of a sub $600 laptop that plays well with ubuntu? lol
[03:25] <killdashnine> i keep getting this message when i login
[03:25] <killdashnine> pam_winbind write to socket failed!
[03:25] <killdashnine> in /var/log/auth.log
[03:25] <killdashnine> how would i be able to better debug the reason behind this?
[03:25] <nuaimat> fensta: or just type a few chars & pree tab , several tabs with type the name instead of u
[03:25] <JackMacOKC> enjahova: i think dell has one
[03:25] <EpP-PocketPC> enjahova, how new is the hardware?
[03:25] <scrappy_> enjahova: my cheap toshibas have always worked good under linux and bsd
[03:25] <JackMacOKC> EpP-PocketPC: brand new he said
[03:25] <enjahova> EpP-PocketPC:  i bought it yesterday
[03:25] <wordsofglass> hi, i just compiled a kernel according to the FAQ and comp is a lot faster, but mounting extra drives wont work, it tells me they're mounted or the folder is busy; i do have all the fs-types compiled into the kernel
[03:26] <magice> does anyone have a link to easyubuntu that works
[03:26] <EpP-PocketPC> enjahova, JackMacOKC,  Then there will be a fix shortly..
[03:26] <magice> all the ones that i can find are broken
[03:26] <fensta> anyone know where wine install apps install to?
[03:26] <enjahova> is the Dell 1370 wireless card well supported in ubuntu? im about to google it
[03:26] <JackMacOKC> EpP-PocketPC, enjahova: yes, thats what i'm thinking. its just too new of a chipset. I would imagine it will be supported shortly
[03:26] <scrappy_> fensta: /home/username/.wine/drive_c
[03:26] <xolot1> is there a system wide bandwidth scheduler/know of such a package?
[03:26] <nuaimat> how to delete old kernels ?? the grub menu it tooooooo long
[03:27] <visik7> enjahova: what card is it ?
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> nuaimat,  edit the menu.lst and set the # of shown to be like 2 or 3
[03:27] <visik7> Dr_Willis: useles
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> numist,  lots of neat settings ya can mess with in there.
[03:27] <visik7> nuaimat: remove them
[03:27] <enjahova> visik7:  the one i have now is a broadcom 4310
[03:27] <GoDawgs> hey ya'll....
[03:27] <GoDawgs> Need to pick your brain about an error message I'm getting.
[03:27] <nuaimat> Dr_Willis:  i know that , but i need to physically delete the kernels , can i ?
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> just dont remove them all. :P
[03:27] <visik7> enjahova: there is a external driver to get it working
[03:28] <nuaimat> visik7: how to remove old kernels ?
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> nuaimat,  'need' ? not really. :P unless you are REALLY hurting for space.
[03:28] <EpP-PocketPC> Im looking to get a laptop, what brand should i get?
[03:28] <enjahova> visik7: ive installed one using bcm43xx-fwcutter, but it hasnt worked
[03:28] <GoDawgs> What does (gedit:5201): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[03:28] <GoDawgs> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. mean?
[03:28] <visik7> numist: aptitude purge linux-image-2.6.15-23-386
[03:28] <EpP-PocketPC> !paste
[03:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:28] <GoDawgs> And how do I fix it
[03:28] <visik7> enjahova: never had a broadcomm :)
[03:28] <nuaimat> visik7: my name is "nuaimat" use tab
[03:28] <xolot1> is there a system wide bandwidth scheduler/know of such a package?
[03:28] <enjahova> visik7: keep it that way
[03:28] <salah> how do I link to a file with console? the command "ld" is not working
[03:29] <JackMacOKC> enjahova: i haven't had any problems with broadcom chipsets
[03:29] <TerrapinM> isn't broadcom kernel support coming soon...though I just read that
[03:29] <enjahova> looks like the cheapest dell uses a broadcom card
[03:29] <nuaimat> visik7: then , should i edit menu.lst manually ?
[03:29] <enjahova> yea i read that it should come in 2.6.17
[03:29] <visik7> nuaimat: no
[03:29] <scrappy_> salah: ln -s  will give you a soft link
[03:29] <visik7> nuaimat: should be enought
[03:29] <JackMacOKC> enjahova: yes, all dells use broadcom or intel AFAIK
[03:29] <salah> scrappy_, thanks
[03:30] <GoDawgs> tritium: hey there :)
[03:30] <ct8ball> where is my source list again?
[03:30] <EpP-PocketPC> JackMacOKC, Im looking to get a laptop, what brand should i get?
[03:30] <enjahova> JackMacOKC: well, i might return this and get a dell then. at least their broadcoms have good docs on how to get them playing nice
[03:30] <nuaimat> visik7: thanks
[03:30] <nuaimat> Dr_Willis: thanx
[03:30] <visik7> EpP-PocketPC: asus or apple :)
[03:30] <Flannel> ct8ball: /etc/apt/sources.lst
[03:30] <ct8ball> ty flannel
[03:30] <GoDawgs> ct8ball: /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:30] <xolot1> is there a system wide bandwidth scheduler/know of such a package?
[03:30] <visik7> xolot1: there is tc
[03:30] <JackMacOKC> EpP-PocketPC, enjahova: i'm no expert, but i have had 4 laptops, and they all run ubuntu without issue
[03:31] <y0rgos> Everytime i install my nvidia driver, i go to reboot and my screen always goes to safe mode, then i have to manually change my driver back to NV... any ideas on how to get my nvidia driver working properly? this is on a fresh install
[03:31] <EpP-PocketPC> visik7, but with apples airport extremes are finnniky
[03:31] <xolot1> visik7: ok, ill google it
[03:31] <salah> scrappy_, any idea why I get "ln: creating symbolic link `helloworld.o' to `hello': File exists"? the command I give is "ln -s helloworld helloworld.o"
[03:31] <PyroManiak> is there a way to add the ability to enter my password for instance... copy/paste functions?
[03:31] <visik7> xolot1: but it's far from easy
[03:31] <jeff_> For some reason I no longer get sound in firefox, although other apps have sound.
[03:31] <shell75> hello all how can i get the latest version of xchat?
[03:31] <Flannel> salah: linking in compiling is different than linking in the OS
[03:31] <GoDawgs> let me try this again... does any one know what this is and how to solve it?  I'm getting it everytime I try to open a program through terminal.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20503
[03:31] <xolot1> visik7: thank you, ill look into it
[03:32] <scrappy_> salah: switch it its like the copy command ln -s location destination
[03:32] <visik7> xolot1: btw there are frontends
[03:32] <salah> Flannel, oh, why? and how is that working?
[03:32] <visik7> xolot1: like shorewall
[03:32] <EpP-PocketPC> Im thinking a toshiba or HP
[03:32] <GoDawgs> shell75: Go through Synaptic and type in a search box "x-chat"
[03:33] <xolot1> visik7: give me a sec to google this
[03:33] <Flannel> salah: compilers compile to object files, object files link to executables (think of it as putting all the pieces together) a link in an OS is like a pointer.  It points to another file.
[03:33] <PyroManiak> ok, maybe I worded that poorly... when I try to do stuff in locked folders, or files, I MUST use the command line so I Can type sudo or gksudo.. is there a "run as" option I dont know of so I dont always have to rely on the command line?
[03:33] <scrappy_> EpP-PocketPC: sun microsystems uses toshibas for their solarisx86 and linux stuff
[03:33] <xolot1> visik7: college in 2 weeks that limits bandwidth at specific times
[03:33] <xolot1> visik7: but i still want to fileshare, et
[03:33] <xolot1> c
[03:33] <Flannel> salah: linkers link all the object files together, and build an executable out of it, that is
[03:33] <EpP-PocketPC> scrappy_, so thats a good choice?
[03:33] <JackMacOKC> EpP-PocketPC, enjahova: sorry, i forgot to mention in that last statement that they were all dell. They are the best IMO
[03:33] <visik7> time to sleep bye xolot1
[03:33] <salah> Flannel, thanks
[03:34] <scrappy_> EpP-PocketPC: i can only attest to the m2 and m3 and much cheaper a15-s127
[03:34] <EpP-PocketPC> JackMacOKC, kk
[03:34] <xolot1> visik7: thanks agian
[03:34] <enjahova> JackMacOKC: thanks for the tip
[03:34] <EpP-PocketPC> scrappy_, i only have like $800
[03:34] <JackMacOKC> I've serviced virtually every laptop out there, and Dell has been the best in my 15 years of work. 2nd goes to IBM
[03:34] <JackMacOKC> last goes to Apple
[03:35] <GoDawgs> hmmm.... /me is surprised
[03:35] <JackMacOKC> but everyone has their opinion on this matter
[03:35] <OmniD> "'VMware Player' is not available in any software channel. The application might not support your system architecture."
[03:35] <OmniD> I keep getting this message on some installs.
[03:36] <Wallakoala> please help me with my issue: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=235840
[03:36] <OmniD> Although I know they should work.
[03:36] <EpP-PocketPC> for best 3d graphics wouldn't i want to get anlaptopnwith nvidia or ati, rather than intel chipset?
[03:36] <JackMacOKC> correct
[03:37] <GoDawgs> hello again...
[03:37] <jmh09> hi.
[03:37] <scrappy_> EpP-PocketPC: i would not get an ati card if i had a choice
[03:37] <tomasz27> hi
[03:37] <EpP-PocketPC> y not geforce?
[03:38] <GoDawgs> can anyone please give me a hand?  I'm getting this error message everytime I try to access a program via terminal:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20503
[03:38] <scrappy_> EpP-PocketPC: older ati cards are ok but you want the driver support of nvidia
[03:38] <JackMacOKC> nvidia is your best bet for linux
[03:39] <VoX> yeah
[03:39] <VoX> nvidia + linux == win
[03:39] <enjahova> thanks for the shoulder to cry on
[03:39] <PyroManiak> is there a way inside of Gnome to "open with permission", rather then using terminal sudo each time?
[03:39] <enjahova> :)
[03:39] <EpP-PocketPC> is intel chips even suported?
[03:39] <JackMacOKC> enjahova: sorry i couldnt be more help
[03:39] <EpP-PocketPC> are*
[03:39] <JackMacOKC> EpP-PocketPC yes
[03:40] <EpP-PocketPC> but nvidia is best... ok
[03:40] <shell75> someone please tell me how to get xchat 2.6.6?
[03:40] <JackMacOKC> EpP-PocketPC unless you're playing games, Intel would be fine
[03:40] <shell75> for ubuntu?
[03:40] <EpP-PocketPC> Jack, games.
[03:40] <JackMacOKC> EpP-PocketPC, then you'll want nvidia.
[03:41] <EpP-PocketPC> JackMacOKC, ok thx
[03:41] <EpP-PocketPC> brb guys
[03:41] <shell75> is there a reason why im being ignored?\
[03:41] <GoDawgs> Guess a girl can't get any help. :(
[03:41] <bthornton> Anybody know of a good graphical configuration tool for BIND/Named?
[03:41] <JackMacOKC> shell75: you're not
[03:41] <wordsofglass> can someone help me mount my extra harddrive?
[03:42] <shell75> id like to d/l xchat 2.6.6 for ubuntu but not sure how or where to go
[03:42] <Flannel> shell75: you'd have to download the source, and compile yourself
[03:42] <JackMacOKC> shell75: 2.6.1 is the version in the repos, why do you need 2.6.6?
[03:43] <shell75> i got 0.11 :(
[03:43] <croak77> shell75: http://gauvain.tuxfamily.org/repos/
[03:43] <shell75> from repos
[03:43] <Warbo> GoDawgs: Does it stop programs running?
[03:43] <OmniD> VMwarePlayer trouble ahoy
[03:43] <JackMacOKC> shell75: you need to add the universe repos
[03:43] <GoDawgs> Warbo, no, it doesn't.
[03:43] <shell75> ok how do i do that
[03:43] <Flannel> shell75: that's xchat-gnome.  it's got an entirely different versioning system, xchat is in universe
[03:43] <Flannel> !tell shell75 about repositories
[03:44] <Flannel> shell75: second link
[03:44] <GoDawgs> Warbo, any suggestions?
[03:44] <Warbo> GoDawgs: It's just a message to do with who has permission over the display. As long as your programs run then it doesn't matter, it's just a warning, not an error
[03:44] <GoDawgs> Warbo, oh okay.  I was trying to mount my ntfs drives and all the sudden I got that error.
[03:45] <GoDawgs> Warbo, if I get them successfully mounted for read/write will that go away?
[03:45] <Warbo> GoDawgs: It only happens with graphical applications, and usually only when run as super user
[03:45] <shell75> do have a site flannel for xchat downloads
[03:45] <Warbo> GoDawgs: You know NTFS writing is dangerous, right?
[03:45] <GoDawgs> Warbo, dangerous?
[03:45] <shell75> i can complie just dunno where to go
[03:45] <Warbo> !fuse
[03:45] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:46] <Warbo> (Note: I have never attempted it since I have no NTFS drives)
[03:46] <GoDawgs> Warbo, ok... then can you help me just mount my NTFS drives?
[03:46] <croak77> shell75: go herem and add this 3rd party repo: http://gauvain.tuxfamily.org/repos/
[03:46] <GoDawgs> I'm happy to save my stuff locally.
[03:46] <eternaljoy> how can I view qucktime files on Dapper?
[03:46] <Warbo> GoDawgs: System>Admin>Discs usually
[03:46] <Warbo> !restricted > eternaljoy
[03:47] <eternaljoy> how can I view qucktime files on websites using Dapper?
[03:47] <GoDawgs> Warbo, ok... what do I do from there?
[03:47] <croak77> shell75: or http://gauvain.tuxfamily.org/repos/dists/dapper/contrib/binary-i386/xchat_2.6.6-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[03:47] <BeepAU> hi everyone, how can i change the permission for the file system?
[03:47] <Nexea> hey.. i am trying to figure out how to disable hibernate on my ubuntu machine.. i assume i can chmod 000 it just like i did the shutdown and reboot scripts
[03:47] <Nexea> any advice?
[03:47] <Nexea> i'm at the end of my wits here
[03:47] <Warbo> GoDawgs: Look for your NTFS partition, make sure it has a mount point (a path starting with /) then enable it and browse the mountpoint
[03:47] <JackMacOKC> BeepAU: google chmod
[03:47] <GoDawgs> Warbo, I try to browse and I get this error message "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hda5".
[03:48] <funkja> I am following some instructions and i'm on a step that says "ind the CARDLIST file in your kernel documentation and find your card in the list." How would i go about doing this?
[03:48] <funkja> find*
[03:48] <Warbo> Oh yeah, I forgot NTFS doesn't have a permission system. Hang on
[03:48] <BeepAU> JackMacOKC -- i'll check it out. thanks.
[03:49] <Warbo> It doesn't look like there is a way to change the mount options from within that program :(
[03:49] <GoDawgs> Warbo, any suggestions?
[03:50] <Warbo> GoDawgs: Try adding a line to /etc/fstab (using "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab")
[03:50] <Warbo> GoDawgs: Basically copy a line from above and change the values to be the same as those in the Sys>Admin>Discs tool, then under options add "uid=yourusername"
[03:51] <croak77> funkja: what exactly are you doing? video card? sound card? tv card?
[03:51] <GoDawgs> Warbo, let me give that a shot...
[03:51] <funkja> tv card
[03:52] <croak77> funkja: try usr/src/linux/Documentation/video4linux/bttv/CARDLIST
[03:53] <mandeep> hey
[03:53] <dmb> waaa, why is pine not in the ubunt repositories?
[03:53] <GoDawgs> Warbo, is the "type" ntfs?
[03:53] <mandeep> can some1 tell me the command to reconfigure x
[03:53] <Warbo> GoDawgs: Yes
[03:53] <Renan_s2> mandeep, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:53] <TheGame> thanks Renan_s2
[03:53] <GoDawgs> Warbo, ok
[03:53] <funkja> croak77: I don't have a linux folder in /usr/src
[03:53] <Nexea> HOORAY BEER.
[03:53] <Nexea> HOORAY UBUNTU.
[03:54] <Tear> how do you install themes in ubuntu
[03:54] <bigfuzzyjesus> red striper
[03:54] <croak77> funkja: try online: http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Cardlist.BTTV
[03:54] <Warbo> Tear: What kind of theme?
[03:54] <bigfuzzyjesus> what kind of pcs do you guys run.. like processor speed?
[03:55] <GoDawgs> Warbo, still telling me I don't have the necessary permissions.
[03:55] <Tear> a theme off of http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/958/
[03:55] <Warbo> GoDawgs: Yes, you will need to unmount it then remount it. Run "sudo umount /path/to/mount/point" then "sudo mount -a"
[03:55] <BeepAU> can anyone help me change the permissions of the file system? this chmod stuff is confusing.
[03:55] <GoDawgs> Warbo, ok... give me a sec
[03:55] <due> BeepAU: What permission are you trying to give a file?
[03:55] <funkja> thanks croak77
[03:56] <BeepAU> due -- i'm trying to install some codecs for xine
[03:56] <due> BeepAU: try `man chmod`.
[03:56] <Warbo> Tear: Go into the .themes folder in your home )(it is hidden) and extract the theme there, or go in System>Preferences>Themes>Install Theme
[03:56] <Tear> gtk themes
[03:56] <BeepAU> due - i already have. i'm still confused.
[03:57] <due> BeepAU: what permission are you trying to change?
[03:57] <BeepAU> due -- i'd like to enable the whole file system
[03:57] <BeepAU> due -- i don't see why it's locked.
[03:57] <due> BeepAU: Er. Is this a mounted filesystem (aka, not your ext* partition?)
[03:57] <Linuturk> !italian
[03:57] <croak77> dmb: pine is not in repo cause of its licence
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about italian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <Warbo> BeepAU: If by "enable" you mean "give my user permission to do anything to" then I'll think you'll find that is a sure way to "disable" an Ubuntu system
[03:58] <GoDawgs> Warbo, still no love.  Now, I'm getting:  mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda3 is already mounted on /
[03:58] <GoDawgs> mount failed
[03:58] <chris_d> I'm having trouble booting on a Shuttle st20g5 with a SATA drive. The drive is not being recognized.
[03:58] <Linuturk> is there an italian channel folks?
[03:58] <ubuntu> alguem do BRASIL?
[03:58] <Flannel> !it
[03:58] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:58] <Flannel> !br
[03:58] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:58] <BeepAU> Warbo -- why would it disable it?
[03:58] <ubuntu> #ubuntu-br
[03:58] <ubuntu> #ubuntu-pt
[03:58] <Flannel> ubuntu: /join #ubuntu-br
[03:59] <Warbo> BeepAU: Because you would obliterate the permission system, and all of the checks which are put in place to stop you doing such a stupid thing would stop you from doing anything. That is if the system still boots
[04:00] <BeepAU> Warbo -- well could you help me give permission to change whats in /usr/lib/win32/ ?
[04:00] <Nexea> can anyone please tell me how to disable hibernation completely? i have tried manually editing the /etc/default/acpi-support configuration as well as gconf-editor but it still ignores that
[04:00] <Flannel> BeepAU: file permissions are there for your own safety.
[04:01] <TheGame> hey i have a dell laptop
[04:01] <Warbo> GoDawgs: That says / is already mounted, which is OK since -a tells mount to mount everything in fstab (and / is in fstab). Are you sure the mountpoinnt for your NTFS drive is still empty?
[04:01] <TheGame> and i did the reconfigure xorg
[04:01] <TheGame> but i still cant get the highest resolution
[04:01] <Warbo> BeepAU: Sure. "sudo"
[04:01] <TheGame> im still stuck at 1024x768
[04:01] <Rookie-> to chage permission - chmod *dir or file* 777 - that gives full permission to all, even me
[04:01] <GoDawgs> Warbo, I'm not sure how to answer that since I don't know what that means.
[04:01] <Flannel> Rookie-: no.  Thats NOT a good answer
[04:02] <Nexea> why on earth would you want full permissions on all files? that would effectively make all accounts root
[04:02] <Rookie-> if the Q is how to change permission ....
[04:02] <Rookie-> what is good or not is not up to me to judge ... its his system
[04:02] <Flannel> Rookie-: He doesn't know any better
[04:02] <TheGame> is there any1 that can help me with that
[04:03] <GoDawgs> Warbo, let me rephrase that.  How do I find out if the mount point is still empty?
[04:03] <Flannel> GoDawgs: go there ;)  cd /mount/point/here
[04:03] <magice> Can anyone help me? When my computer starts up it hangs forever on the NVIDIA splash screen
[04:03] <Rookie-> But with that kind of permission .... the system is no better than win ... even worse then win
[04:03] <Warbo> GoDawgs: Go there
[04:03] <GoDawgs> Flannel, Warbo ok... will try that now
[04:03] <Warbo> GoDawgs: Either in a file browser (/ is your filesystem) or a terminal with "cd /path/to/mount/point"
[04:03] <gary[ubuntu] > !resolution > TheGame
[04:04] <gary[ubuntu] > !resolution > gary[ubuntu] 
[04:04] <GoDawgs> Warbo, I'm getting "bash: cd: /dev/hda5/: Not a directory
[04:04] <GoDawgs> "
[04:05] <GoDawgs> Warbo, Flannel So I guess it is empty?
[04:05] <croak77> TheGame: what display driver are you using?
[04:05] <Warbo> GoDawgs: That is your drive, not your mountpoint
[04:05] <WinDancer> Greetings. Would anyone care to assist me in getting my wireless card to work under Ubuntu?
[04:05] <Tear> Warbo which type of theme should I be looking for     ie  gtk gnome what?
[04:05] <Warbo> Tear: GTK2
[04:05] <TheGame> i810
[04:05] <Tear> ok
[04:05] <GoDawgs> Warbo, Oh.  Then I don't know (obviously) what my mount point is.
[04:05] <Warbo> Tear: Window manager themes should be for Metacity (unless you use XGL)
[04:06] <Nexea> can someone help me with my hibernate problem?
[04:06] <Tear> ok
[04:06] <TheGame> croak77,  im using i810
[04:06] <croak77> TheGame: you ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and selected the driver and resolution?
[04:06] <Warbo> GoDawgs: A mount command would look something like "sudo mount /dev/devicename /where/you/want/to/put/it". The files stored on "/dev/devicename" will not be found in the folder "/wherever/you/want/to/put/it"
[04:07] <TheGame> ya
[04:07] <TheGame> and when ir estart gnome its still in 1024sx768
[04:07] <GoDawgs> Warbo: oh ... I'm super confused now.
[04:07] <jrojas> hi, my gnome panel suddenly dissapear.. some tip?
[04:08] <croak77> TheGame: post the section of your xorg.conf in pastebin
[04:08] <TheGame> ok
[04:08] <Nexea> how do you disable hibernation capability
[04:08] <TheGame> which section did u want to see croak77
[04:08] <GoDawgs> Warbo: I haven't any idea where to start.
[04:09] <ct8ball> how do I get mp3's to play?
[04:09] <GoDawgs> Warbo: I see where I have an access path... /tmp/disks-conf-hda5... is that the same thing?
[04:09] <croak77> TheGame: the "Screen" section with all your Display modes
[04:09] <neutrinomass> !mp3 > ct8ball
[04:09] <ct8ball> pardon eh moi?
[04:09] <neutrinomass> Nexea: Why exactly do you want to disable it ?
[04:09] <TheGame> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20513
[04:10] <neutrinomass> ct8ball: ubotu must have sent you a message with a link ... click on that
[04:10] <neutrinomass> ct8ball: I think it's http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:10] <Nexea> because it's a server.. i dont want it to hibernate ever
[04:11] <croak77> TheGame: is "1280x854" the highest it goes?
[04:11] <LazyAngel> does anyone remember the name of the disk partitioner that is used under the dapper / edgy installation?
[04:11] <Warbo> GoDawgs: Everything is in a folder called "/". / is a mountpoint for your / partition (in your case /dev/hda3). CDs, floppy discs, USB drives, etc. get mounted in folders inside /media (notice that media is in /). Devices are stored in /dev (which is in /, as you can see), so you want to mount the device hda5, which is in the folder dev in the folder /, into a mountpoint, which is just another folder which can be anywhere (eg. 
[04:11] <TheGame> i think so
[04:11] <neutrinomass> Nexea: OK, but why remove hibernation capability ?
[04:11] <TheGame> either that or 1280x800
[04:11] <verbose> LazyAngel: i believe it is gparted
[04:11] <Nexea> neutrinomass: oh nice nickname.. neutrinos are very small mass
[04:11] <TheGame> i dont have xp anymore so i forgot what the exact resolution was but i remember it was 1280xsomething
[04:12] <gary[ubuntu] > TheGame: is it a widescreen monitor?
[04:12] <Nexea> neutrinomass: because when i go to log out, there is a huge hiberate button
[04:12] <TheGame> yes
[04:12] <neutrinomass> Nexea: I don't think you can do that for a root user : They can always interface directly with the kernel ..
[04:12] <LazyAngel> verbose: yepp. thank you very much :)
[04:12] <TheGame> 14.1"
[04:12] <DanaG> 720 or 768 or 800?
[04:12] <neutrinomass> Nexea: Ahh, remove it from gdm/gnome-session ?
[04:12] <crash__> I was wondering if anybody has installed SKYPE on their UNBUNTU
[04:12] <Nexea> neutrino: oh no, i am logged in as a normal user
[04:12] <Nexea> gnome session.. hmm
[04:12] <Flannel> !tell crash__ about skype
[04:12] <byen> hey guys.. Here is my question.. none of my usb drives mount unless i type sudo modprobe -r ehci-hcd ... what can i do.. how should i proceed. ..Please suggest
[04:12] <gary[ubuntu] > should be 1280x720 for a 16:9 monitor
[04:13] <croak77> TheGame: try deleting "1280x854" from the Depth 24 so that "1280x800" is first
[04:13] <croak77> TheGame: then restart X
[04:13] <byen> is there anyway i can just have them mount automatically like it used to in Breezy
[04:13] <TheGame> ok brb
[04:14] <neutrinomass> Nexea: It can be done ... I'm not sure how exactly - try searching for a gconf key ...
[04:14] <ct8ball> and if I would still like to find an mp3 encoder?
[04:14] <Nexea> ok, one seocond
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> byen,  # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.  ---> put that module name in there.
[04:14] <Nexea> neutrino: editing gdm/gnome-session now
[04:15] <TheGame> croak77,  that didnt work
[04:15] <Warbo> Dr_Willis: modprobe -r removes a module
[04:15] <Warbo> The blacklist would probably be a better choice?
[04:15] <byen> Dr_Willis, so what do i put there? can you please walk me a little
[04:15] <byen> Wanderer, i tried blacklisting it.. that was a no go
[04:15] <byen> Warbo, ^
[04:15] <croak77> TheGame: did it start or was it still 1024x768
[04:15] <Tear> there has to be an easy way to setup themes
[04:15] <xolot1> how do i turn off my computer from the command line?
[04:16] <TheGame> 1024
[04:16] <_priest> xolot1: sudo shutdown -h now
[04:16] <Warbo> Tear: Yes. System>Preferences>Themes
[04:16] <xolot1> thank you
[04:16] <Tear> tried that
[04:16] <Warbo> Tear: And?
[04:16] <Tear> tried to unstall from there
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> byen,  if you DONT want the modiule loaded - then tehres a blacklist file somewhere. in /etc/
[04:16] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[04:16] <azureal> i scared myself today =P
[04:16] <Tear> tried to istall from there
[04:16] <neutrinomass> Nexea: gnome-power-manager, that's where it is I think . I'm NOT sure if this is safe, but you could set "can hibernate" and "can suspend" to false
[04:17] <Warbo> Tear: "uninstll" a theme, hust go into $HOME/.themes and delete the folder
[04:17] <neutrinomass> Nexea: Btw, I think it's still being debated whether neutrinos have mass at all :-)
[04:17] <Warbo> *just
[04:17] <Tear> nope install
[04:17] <_priest> Dr_Willis: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:17] <Tear> type o
[04:17] <redcard> Man.  Cannot decide what music player to use :P
[04:17] <Warbo> Tear: I am pretty sure it is drag 'n' drop, hang on
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> byen,  so if that module loading is causing troubles - put its name in   /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:18] <byen> Dr_Willis, so i just put ehci-hcd correct?
[04:18] <OmniD> I use Beep Media Player!
[04:18] <TheGame> croak77,  any ideas/
[04:18] <croak77> TheGame: have you tried 915resolution package?
[04:18] <TheGame> whats that
[04:18] <Warbo> Tear: It is. Just drag the .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 file into the theme window and it will ask you if you want to install it
[04:19] <Tear> ok
[04:19] <croak77> TheGame: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/x11/915resolution
[04:19] <Nexea> neutrinomass: yeah.. i set both of them to unchecked
[04:19] <azureal> OmniD: I loooove bmp!!
[04:19] <Warbo> Tear: The same goes for GNOME icon themes and Metacity themes
[04:19] <redcard> OmniD: I've looked at that.. I've got over 4000 songs tho :P  That's the main problem I'm running into with most of them.  Too much music
[04:19] <Nexea> neutrinomass: i assume settings become active once i restart.. yet it is still not working
[04:19] <Nexea> hmm
[04:19] <OmniD> The only problem is Totem takes priority
[04:20] <azureal> totem!? that garbage?!
[04:20] <Warbo> I like Totem, but only as a movie player
[04:20] <OmniD> No I mean it takes priority because it just loads files before
[04:20] <OmniD> I don't know how to set it to where when I load something it's the default program to do so
[04:20] <Warbo> OmniD: Well, er, Open With?
[04:20] <neutrinomass> Nexea: Hm... I'd think that they take effedt immediately. Maybe you have to relogin... IIRC the gnome logout panel was patched to make it read that gconf key to see whether the system can be suspended/hibernated to avoid showing the option if it cannot
[04:20] <Warbo> right click>Properties>Open With
[04:20] <OmniD> Open With of course works, but I'd rather it just be default
[04:21] <TheGame> croak77,  i have no idea how to install that
[04:21] <OmniD> For all audio at least
[04:21] <Warbo> OmniD: Yes, you make sure the radio button is on next to BMP
[04:21] <azureal> ah, good pt OmniD ... i was wondering the same thing
[04:21] <Nexea> neutrinomass: one second, let me try to logout
[04:22] <azureal> but now that i switched to fluxbox and just open stuff w/ cli... i dont care anymore
[04:22] <TheGame> nvm
[04:22] <byen> Dr_Willis, no go mate.. i tried putting blacklist ehci-hcd and blacklist ehci_hcd still no auto mounting
[04:22] <redcard> Warbo: There's a way to set perferrred app on music players?
[04:22] <croak77> TheGame: what's your dell model
[04:22] <TheGame> m140
[04:22] <TheGame> xps
[04:23] <TheGame> i tried to install the 915res pckg but it gave me a conflict error
[04:23] <Warbo> redcard: right click a file>properties>open with and then press the radion button next to the preferred application (or add it manually first, then set it default itf it is not there)
[04:23] <redcard> Ahh.
[04:23] <redcard> That makes a ton of sense
[04:23] <TheGame> Error: conflicts with the installed package "915resolution"
[04:24] <Warbo> redcard: You need to do it for each filetype though, Ogg Vorbis, MPEG layer 3, XM, wave, etc.
[04:24] <linuxuser> has anyone heard any current info on easyubuntu, i cannot connect to their site at the moment?
[04:24] <Warbo> linuxuser: Have you tried in #easyubuntu?
[04:25] <linuxuser> ahhh no, ty
[04:25] <Nexea> neutrinomass: i found something
[04:25] <redcard> *nods*
[04:25] <croak77> TheGame: do you have a /usr/share/doc/915resolution/README.Debian
[04:25] <TheGame> let me check
[04:25] <Nexea> neutrinomass: the hibernate command is /sbin/pmi hibernate
[04:25] <redcard> RHythmbox is pretty nice, though.. and a lot of people have been telling me that Banshee is something cool
[04:25] <redcard> But.. podcasts.. that's something that I would like to do too
[04:26] <TheGame> yes i do croak77
[04:26] <Warbo> redcard: http://listengnome.free.fr
[04:26] <Nexea> neutrinomass: which is a shutdown script
[04:26] <redcard> Warbo: Oh.. one big catch.  Powerpc :P
[04:26] <Nexea> interesting
[04:26] <Warbo> Erm.... Python?
[04:26] <neutrinomass> Nexea: Yes ... probably - but there should be a gconf key (I'm trying to get to a clean solution .... I guess you could boot with acpi=off and be done with it )
[04:27] <neutrinomass> Nexea: Under gnome-power-manager in gconf I also found a "show_actions_in_menu" key which seems promising....
[04:27] <redcard> Warbo: Ahh.. I didn't even think it would work, since the packages for listen are for i386 or amd64
[04:27] <croak77> TheGame: read that..i', pretty sure you need to use 915resolution. see if it's installed 915resolution-l from a terminal
[04:27] <TheGame> its installed
[04:27] <TheGame> im doing what it says right now
[04:27] <neutrinomass> Nexea: Sorry, I have to leave now... I may be back in a moment though ... good luck with your problem
[04:27] <Warbo> redcard: It is entirely Python and Gstreamer, so it should be architecture independant. If there are no ppc packages then that is just a very lazy or arrogant developer :(
[04:27] <Nexea> neutrinomass: hmmm
[04:28] <Nexea> neutrinomass: well thank you for your time
[04:28] <Nexea> i will let you know how it goes
[04:28] <croak77> TheGame: I got to run...but search ubuntuforums.org for 915resolution if you get stuck.
[04:28] <justin420> hi all. anybody run into sound problems while trying to run quake4? specifically you can hear all sounds in the game except for voice? i installed libopenal, i even edited my ~/quake4/q4base/Quake4Config.cfg and changed the set s_device to oss and alsa and tried also changing the seta s_alsa_lib "libasound.so.2" to libasound.so.0 and then I had no sound at all?
[04:28] <Warbo> I am really tired. I only came onto this desktop to close GAIM, but ended up answering more questions :)
[04:29] <TheGame> thanks
[04:29] <VonGuard> i'm checking out System Monitor, and it says that the clock applet is taking up 10 MBs of memory
[04:29] <VonGuard> that seems like an aweful lot for a clock
[04:29] <Nexea> VonGuard: it's a very intelligent clock
[04:29] <Nexea> VonGuard: it remembers a lot of time
[04:29] <redcard> They have a source repos.. what's the command to build from source in Apt?
[04:30] <VonGuard> evidently
[04:30] <Nexea> hehe
[04:30] <OmniD> I read that as very intelligent cock
[04:30] <OmniD> I'm sooo sorry
[04:30] <OmniD> I just did I apoligize for my reading comprehension!!
[04:30] <redcard> OmniD: Oh sure.. now I read it too :P
[04:31] <Nexea> OmniD: looks like someone was preoccupied
[04:31] <Nexea> :D
[04:31] <OmniD> Preoccupied with finding out a way to set Beep as my default audio player and failing >:C
[04:31] <y0rgos> Hey, i have a problem getting my nvidia drivers working... everytime i install them and reboot i get a blank screen. it says no signal.. i think my monitor is going out of sync.. does anyone know what the problem is???
[04:31] <d3vil> Hey can anyone tell me how to install Themes in Kubuntu
[04:32] <redcard> Hmm
[04:33] <smacky> hey can someone plz tell how to changeme password
[04:33] <d3vil> what ya mean?
[04:33] <d3vil> like root?
[04:33] <smacky> yes
[04:33] <VonGuard> in console: passwd
[04:33] <jeff_> smacky: system > administration > users and groups
[04:33] <sportsbabe987> hello.
[04:33] <d3vil> rebthe root password jeff
[04:34] <sportsbabe987> anyone care to help me get either of these printers working?
[04:34] <ct8ball> anyone know of a good mp3 codec that is easy to install?
[04:34] <sportsbabe987> the lexmark z42 or the dell aio 922
[04:34] <DarkMageZ> !tell ct8ball about restrictedformats
[04:34] <jeff_> d3vil: rebthe?
[04:34] <y0rgos> Hey, i have a problem getting my nvidia drivers working... everytime i install them and reboot i get a blank screen. it says no signal.. i think my monitor is going out of sync.. does anyone know what the problem is???
[04:35] <smacky> thank you
[04:35] <t-dawg> How do i resolve a wifi card problem?
[04:35] <sportsbabe987> anyone ever deal with a lexmark z42 or a dell aio 922?
[04:35] <OmniD> ITS 2100 AND IM OUT OF COFFEE
[04:35] <jeff_> t-dawg: what's the problem?
[04:36] <OmniD> 2134 to be specific!
[04:36] <edju> t-dawg, If you find a solution, give a holler - I can't get wifi to work.
[04:36] <t-dawg> it is saying that my card radio something has and external switch that is off and there is no switch
[04:36] <sportsbabe987> hello?
[04:36] <OmniD> Hi!!
[04:36] <redcard> So.. how do I use a source repository to build a package for my system?
[04:36] <DarkMageZ> !tell darkmagez about restrictedformats
[04:36] <sportsbabe987> anyone know what the hell is wrong with CUPS?
[04:37] <OmniD> I prefer MUGS
[04:37] <t-dawg> it says that the radio or something is off and that there is an external switch off and there isnt
[04:37] <OmniD> Sorry, what is CUPS?
[04:37] <sportsbabe987> printing services.
[04:37] <ardchoille> Common Unix Printing System
[04:37] <Crescendo> How do I get 5.1 channel audio working on a three port sound card, mic in, audio in, audio out - on windows, I'd click the button "switch this port to sound out (front)" blah di blah, how how do I make it work.
[04:37] <Crescendo> Lol.
[04:37] <intuosman> OmniD: i prefer double-D sized CUPS.
[04:37] <OmniD> ooo that would have been better
[04:38] <t-dawg> can any help
[04:38] <DarkMageZ> OmniD, commedy is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:38] <sportsbabe987> umm, bassically I need to get my dell AIO 922 or Lexmark z42 working, there is a standard z42 driver, but it doesn't really work.
[04:38] <ardchoille> DarkMageZ: Thank you
[04:38] <t-dawg>  it says that the radio or something is off and that there is an external switch off and there isnt
[04:38] <DarkMageZ> intuosman, this is a family channel, please remember that
[04:38] <t-dawg> eifi assistants
[04:38] <jeff_> redcard: do you just want to install a package? or do you want to manually edit the source?
[04:38] <intuosman> DarkMageZ: apologies. will behave now.
[04:39] <redcard> jeff_: Just install listen for Powerpc.
[04:39] <redcard> I'm just going to do a checkinstall
[04:39] <TheGame> how do i had universal repos and such
[04:39] <sportsbabe987> anyone?
[04:39] <intuosman> OmniD: you're a bad influence to me. :P
[04:39] <sportsbabe987> :'/
[04:39] <TheGame> isnt there an app in the system menu to do it?
[04:39] <TheGame> to add multiverse etc
[04:39] <OmniD> My bad!
[04:39] <t-dawg> on wirelesss assistant i get this when i search for networks any help Radio of your wireless card seems to be turned off using an external switch on your computer.
[04:39] <t-dawg> You need turn it on to be able to use wireless networks.
[04:39] <ardchoille> !repos > TheGame
[04:39] <jeff_> TheGame: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[04:40] <edju> iwconfig aeth1 lways shows the ESSID as "Not ready" & thus - no wifi.
[04:40] <jeff_> TheGame: then Settings > Repositories
[04:41] <sportsbabe987> garumph
[04:41] <jeff_> edju: do you know the essid of the wireless network you want to connect to?
[04:41] <redcard> jeff_: There we go.  I just checkinstalled it. :P
[04:41] <edju> jeff_, Yes.  & iwconfig shows the correct essid.
[04:42] <digirat> can someone help me reinstall my boot loader? i reinstalled windows and it wrote over grub
[04:42] <jeff_> edju: i thought you just said iwconfig always shows the essid as not ready?
[04:42] <poningru> mistform: yo
[04:43] <mistform> hi
[04:43] <jeff_> digirat: try reinstalling the grub package from synaptic
[04:43] <poningru> what are you trying to do?
[04:43] <sportsbabe987> someone care to help with a dell printer?
[04:43] <digirat> how do i get into synaptic if i don't have linux?
[04:43] <poningru> brb
[04:43] <digirat> i can only boot xp now
[04:43] <edju> jeff_, I did say that.  It shows "NOT READY!  ESSID "<name>"
[04:43] <BlueEagle> digirat: You can boot from the live cd and start synaptic
[04:43] <dswillia> anyone give me some wireless assistance?  Ubuntu see's my card but for some reason cannot connect to the access point I have tried the wep key both together and seperated by a hyphen every fourth digit
[04:43] <digirat> so i gotta download the live cd?
[04:44] <edju> jeff_, Also shows the wrong channel - 0 instead of 11.
[04:44] <BlueEagle> digirat: either that or you can install linux on another machine and secure shell into it and run it over an Xtunnel.
[04:44] <edju> jeff_, Access Point: not associated.
[04:44] <jeff_> edju: but then you said that iwconfig shows the correct essid...
[04:44] <BlueEagle> digirat: I really really do not understand why you would want to get into synaptic w/o installing linux.
[04:44] <edju> jeff_, Yes, true.
[04:44] <BlueEagle> digirat: ...unless you've overwritten your MBR by installing windows but then you don't need synaptic but the alternate install cd.
[04:45] <digirat> BlueEagle i already have linux installed... i just reinstalled windows and it nuked my bootloader... linux is still on my drive... i just can't get into it
[04:45] <mistform> I am trying to this file ~/downloads/codecs.tar.bz2 to /usr/local/lib/codecs
[04:45] <jeff_> edju: if you know the essid you want to connect to, you can set it up from system > administration > networking
[04:45] <mistform> but it can't find the file ~/downloads/codecs.tar.bz2
[04:45] <mistform> and I can't use the graphical way because of permissions
[04:45] <edju> jeff_, I did that, and set it active.  But still nothing.
[04:45] <jeff_> or iwconfig <interface> essid <your-essid>
[04:46] <Ricesteam> I installed Ubuntu, and I want to try out KDE. I think I installed all the KDE files from apt-get, but when I try to switch sessions, I get a "cannot load up kstartupconfig" error
[04:46] <jeff_> edju: do you have WEP?
[04:46] <digirat> would any livecd work? or does it have to be the ubuntu one?
[04:46] <edju> jeff_, Yes, and entered it in the network thingee.
[04:46] <BlueEagle> digirat: Well you can do this from both the alternate and the livecd.
[04:47] <digirat> BlueEagle what's the alternate cd?
[04:47] <jeff_> edju: strange, try posting ifconfig and iwconfig output on the forums along with your problem
[04:47] <BlueEagle> digirat: boot into the live cd (for example) and open a terminal. Mount your filesystems on for example mount and mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc then chroot /mnt /bin/bash that will enable you to run grub.
[04:47] <edju> jeff_, Just called the network thingee again, and shows eth1 as not active and somehow eth0 got re-activated.
[04:47] <BlueEagle> digirat: if you've got a scsi interface you might want to copy /dev/ds* to /mnt/dev before chrooting.
[04:48] <BlueEagle> digirat: the alternate install cd is the "old fashioned" text installer and it has also got some nifty recovery features.
[04:48] <jacky> there are three fields on Packages file: bugs, origin and task, but dpkg-scanpackages don't create them, so how to add there fields to Packages?
[04:48] <BlueEagle> digirat: The machine in question is it the one you're currently on?
[04:48] <dswillia> if i do a iwconfig it shows Access Point invalid
[04:48] <digirat> yes
[04:49] <BlueEagle> digirat: I see.
[04:49] <BlueEagle> digirat: Have you got the live cd?
[04:49] <digirat> i have a korrora xgl livecd... that will probably work
[04:49] <jacky> there are three fields on Packages file: bugs, origin and task, but dpkg-scanpackages wouldn't create them, so how to add there fields to Packages?
[04:49] <BlueEagle> digirat: I guess. Just as long as you get a terminal in which you can chroot to the installed linux system.
[04:50] <Nexea> well damn that didn't work
[04:50] <Nexea> i'm back folks
[04:50] <BlueEagle> digirat: (needs to be the same kernel major and minor version iirc (ie 2.6.* on the live cd you've got)
[04:50] <Nexea> i think i am looking in the wrong configuration file
[04:50] <johnnyg> what channel should i go to in order to ask questions about the evolution email app?
[04:50] <BlueEagle> digirat: Is there an IRC client on the korrora xgl live cd?
[04:50] <Nexea> johnnyg: what are you trying to do
[04:51] <digirat> BlueEagle should be
[04:51] <Nexea> what is the actual configuration file of the shutdown menu.. the menu you see when you click the button in the top right corner
[04:51] <johnnyg> Nexea: I'd like to download mail from several different email addresses, each should reside in its own seperate folder
[04:51] <BlueEagle> digirat: Then I suggest you boot into it and get back to me when you've done that. Then I'll hold your hand trough this.
[04:51] <PierreG> Hi every one !
[04:51] <BlueEagle> digirat: :)
[04:51] <digirat> BlueEagle i love you?
[04:51] <BlueEagle> digirat: hehe
[04:52] <Nexea> johnnyg: hmmm.. do you specifically require evolution email? i use thunderbird on a daily basis and would be able to help you
[04:52] <PierreG> I have a question for anyone having a clue...
[04:52] <redcard> Ugh. 4000 songs just kills Listen
[04:53] <PierreG> A question I have on my minds since a while...
[04:54] <PierreG> Why can't we find a unique site where all errors and informational messages would be collected ???
[04:55] <sethk> PierreG, isn't that more like a section in the wiki than a separate site?
[04:55] <sethk> PierreG, either way, if it doesn't exist, start it.
[04:55] <digirat> BlueEagle did you get the msg?
[04:55] <johnnyg> nexea:  my first quesiton, how do I import mail from Evolution to Thunderbird?
[04:56] <redcard> Wow .  listen is spiffy
[04:56] <crimsun> too 'heavy' for my taste.
[04:58] <BlueEagle> digirat: I did. :)
[04:58] <digirat> BlueEagle duh ;)
[04:58] <scrappy_> everytime start kde im like 'this is cool, i love this' ..for about 15 min than im back to fluxbox
[04:58] <redcard> crimsun: What, Listen?
[04:59] <crimsun> redcard: yeah.
[04:59] <redcard> crimsun: What do you lose?  I'm trying all I can find :)
[04:59] <sethk> scrappy_, I can't imagine why, unless you are on a slow box or something
[04:59] <redcard> lose.  Use.  Yes, use.  Rum is really, really too good :P
[04:59] <mistform> what's the default root pw???
[05:00] <crimsun> redcard: depends on the environment, anything from mpg321/ogg123/faad+aplay to quod libet to an mpc client
[05:00] <sethk> mistform, with the default desktop install, the password is not set
[05:00] <mistform> ok, how do I set it?
[05:00] <redcard> crimsun: Hmm.  I might do mpd when the roommate moves in next week.
[05:00] <sethk> mistform, sudo passwd           you can get the same effect with sudo -i without setting the password
[05:00] <redcard> Put it on the nice spiffy file server over there *points*
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> !sudo
[05:01] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:01] <mistform> thank you wthk
[05:01] <mistform> sethk*
[05:01] <sethk> mistform, whatever  :)
[05:01] <mistform> ty for being nice to the n00b ;)
[05:02] <DanaG> Is there an easy way to unset EVERYTHING inside a branch in gconf-editor?
[05:02] <BlueEagle> mistform: oh, and did we mention that setting the root password and logging in as root is dangerous and should be avoided and that sudo is "the better way"?
[05:02] <trygg> How do i run *.unx
[05:02] <trygg> ?
[05:02] <crimsun> DanaG: --recursive-unset
[05:02] <bluefox83> whats the ubuntu equivilent of gdm setup?
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> i cant recall ever seeing a .unx file.
[05:02] <BlueEagle> trygg: to run a file chmod u+x filename
[05:02] <mistform> I'm not logged in under root
[05:02] <crimsun> DanaG: using gconftool-2(1)
[05:03] <BlueEagle> trygg: then start it with ./filename
[05:03] <sethk> trygg, filenames are unrelated to file types.  if it is a script, you can do   chmod +x filename
[05:03] <scrappy_> trygg: do file *.unx  or head filename.unx to get some idea what it is
[05:03] <BlueEagle> mistform: and you don't need to (and hence you don't need to set a root password=
[05:03] <BlueEagle> :)
[05:03] <bluefox83> how do i change WM's?
[05:04] <mistform> it's so I can use  su in terminal
[05:04] <trygg> Ah, will check this. Thanks.
[05:04] <ardchoille> bluefox83: I wrote a tutorial for that, hold on.. I'll get you a URL
[05:04] <sethk> bluefox83, if you mean gnome and kde, at the gdm login you can choose either
[05:04] <scrappy_> trygg: i wanna know :)
[05:04] <trygg> Me too, wait.
[05:04] <ardchoille> bluefox83: Do you mean change wm's in gnome?
[05:04] <bluefox83> sethk, there should be a way to change to like, icewm and enlightenment without leaving gnome
[05:04] <BlueEagle> mistform: sudo -i == su
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> i though it was sudo -s
[05:04] <mistform> yeah
[05:05] <sethk> bluefox83, maybe there should be, but that doesn't mean there is
[05:05] <mistform> but it's easy to type "su"
[05:05] <BlueEagle> dr_willis: it might be.
[05:05] <ardchoille> bluefox83: Yes, you can change the wm in gnome: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReplaceMetacityWithOpenbox
[05:05] <BlueEagle> dr_willis: if I need a root shell I do sudo /bin/bash
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> bluefox83,  its doable.. but makes a mess.
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> BlueEagle,  thats a little over kill. :P
[05:05] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: It's actually quite easy to change wm's in gnome
[05:05] <mister_roboto> mistform: typing "sudo -i" gets you to a root shell quicker than logging in as root anyway :)
[05:05] <DanaG> aah, gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/compiz
[05:05] <BlueEagle> dr_willis: I know
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> ardchoille,  on the fly - can get to be a pain. used to be all the old window managers. (windowmaker and so forth) had menus to easially jump from one window manager to another.
[05:06] <sethk> mistform, there is a misimpression floating around that allowing an ordinary user to do admin things with sudo is more secure than allowing su.
[05:06] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: Yes, it used to be easy like that
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> ardchoille,  the good old days of startx and .xinitrc
[05:07] <bluefox83> i really need to change this crappy theme...
[05:07] <sethk> Dr_Willis, startx and .xinitrc still exist and you can still use them exactly as you did before, if you want to.
[05:07] <mister_roboto> sethk: i think the idea is you're less likely to "accidentally" stay in a root shell if you don't log in as root
[05:07] <BlueEagle> sethk: Well if people used su -c command instead of starting a root shell with su I would agree with you. But it's very quick to forget that you've run su and that you are root and then doing something that would be safe as a normal user but since you're root you borkalize your system.
[05:07] <sethk> mister_roboto, there's no logic there.
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> sethk,  and i do so. :P but im constantly haveing to explain to newbies aboiut them :P
[05:07] <sethk> BlueEagle, that would make sense if sudo -i were not allowed
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> sethk,  i noticed that Freespire uses .xinitrc as what window manager the gdm login runs.
[05:08] <sethk> BlueEagle, or sudo /bin/bash, or a number of other combinations
[05:08] <mister_roboto> sethk: well, not ENTIRELY true, humans being what they are, forgetful and all that
[05:08] <sethk> Dr_Willis, that's interesting.
[05:08] <magneticubuntu> re
[05:08] <sethk> mister_roboto, why would they be less forgetful about sudo -i ?
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> sethk,  and weird.. freespire has some very odd things its doing under the hood.
[05:08] <sethk> Dr_Willis, do you like it?
[05:08] <chatzilla007> odd?
[05:09] <sethk> chatzilla007, was that a question?
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> sethk,  used it for 3 days.. then dumped it. :P it was using the older verison of a lot of apps.. and annoyed me.. it was an ok disrto i guess. but some quirks
[05:09] <BlueEagle> sethk: Well there is another reason not to set a root password. Most people that attempt to brute-force a box often try to brute force the root password. When the root password is unset then they cannot do that.
[05:09] <sethk> Dr_Willis, ok, just curious
[05:09] <poningru> mistform: dude did your problem get solved?
[05:09] <chatzilla007> sorry... just arrived... someone said Freespire is odd under the hood.  I've never used it.
[05:09] <mister_roboto> sethk: only because they probably did it in order to run some special sequence of commands rather than logging in and staying root all the time in some terminal window, and using that later on accidentally. I agree it's not likely if you're careful and either way is not that much different
[05:09] <BlueEagle> sethk: so sudo -i would be more secure than su with a root password in that respect wouldn't it?
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> sethk,  yea. it was neat that it auto-setup the ati and nvidia and other things.. but still its a bit hypped.
[05:10] <sethk> BlueEagle, that's a red herring.  remote login as root is disabled.
[05:10] <sethk> BlueEagle, no
[05:10] <BlueEagle> sethk: (ie. it's harder to guess a username/password combo than just bruteforce a password for a known account)
[05:10] <mistform> poningru, yes
[05:10] <sethk> mister_roboto, sudo -i gives you the exact same thing as su.  you exit the same way.  there is no logic to saying that someone will be less forgetful with one or the other.
[05:10] <mistform> case sensitive crap
[05:11] <mistform> I didn't even know I capitalized the folder
[05:11] <mister_roboto> sethk: but allowing a root password AND sudo everything at the same time is just another password that can be guessed/obtained
[05:11] <BlueEagle> sethk: Still it's one less password to forget (I know, I'm out of arguments) :)
[05:11] <sethk> BlueEagle, I'm not sure I go along with that.  if you can sniff packets you can grab user names with no problem.
[05:11] <sethk> mister_roboto, exactly.  that's why sudo is less secure.
[05:11] <BlueEagle> sethk: But you don't need to be able to sniff packets to be able to attack a box.
[05:11] <poningru> mistform: sorry I couldnt help
[05:11] <mister_roboto> sethk:it's only less secure if you have a root password too
[05:11] <sethk> BlueEagle, no, I didn't say that, I said if you can sniff you can easily grab user names.
[05:12] <crimsun> sethk: "less secure" than what?
[05:12] <mistform> it's all good
[05:12] <mistform> ner0x helped me out
[05:12] <mistform> in a PM
[05:12] <sethk> mister_roboto, no, one can talk about whether allowing sudo is more or less secure than allowing su, without having to enable both.
[05:12] <sethk> crimsun, less secure than having a root password and not allowing sudo
[05:13] <crimsun> sethk: I don't think one can really draw any conclusion about more or less secure
[05:13] <mister_roboto> sethk:  how do you think sudo is less secure? you can control the access pretty well with sudo. when all you have is "su -" what happens in real life is that all kinds of people know the root password
[05:14] <sethk> mister_roboto, only administrators need root access.  the reason I believe that allowing sudo is less secure is...
[05:14] <ardchoille> Well, I like having the root account disabled and using sudo. I have su set up so that only the admin can call it anyway.
[05:14] <sethk> mister_roboto, you need only log in as a normal user to get root access.  So anybody who can log in is essentially root, and you can log in from anywhere and become root.
[05:14] <mister_roboto> sethk: yes but you can have classes of admins using sudo. every admin doesn't get to do EVERYTHING, necessarily, like when all you have is root
[05:15] <zenpro> what's the default password for the postgreSQL user 'postgres' installed through apt-get?
[05:15] <sethk> mister_roboto, I'm talking specifically about the case where sudo -i is allowed and nothing is restricted.  which is the way ubuntu is typically used after the desktop install.
[05:15] <zephen> what's the big deal? Like most experienced *nix users don't just 'sudo -i' anyway on Ubuntu. If you can't tell the difference between a '$' and a '#' (standard prompts for user and root on almost all *nix systems) - you deserve to learn the hard way
[05:15] <mister_roboto> sethk: that's not true unless you enable access to everything in your sudo config. you can easily restrict that to any admin type subset you want
[05:15] <sethk> mister_roboto, I agree that a restricted sudo can be more secure.  but that isn't what we advise people to do here.
[05:15] <PierreG> Lerreur suivante:
[05:16] <PierreG> tentative de remplacement de /usr/lib/xorg/modules/xgl/libglcore.so, qui appartient aussi au paquet xorg-xg
[05:16] <ardchoille> !fr
[05:16] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:16] <sethk> mister_roboto, still, either you need root, to run visudo, or you need to allow visudo for a normal user, which means sudo is effectively unrestricted.
[05:16] <bb|Gishnob> !us
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about us - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <bur[n] er> anyone know what's up with the totem firefox plugin?  is 1.4.3 gstreamer versin being worked on?
[05:17] <bb|Gishnob> !e
[05:17] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[05:17] <bb|Gishnob> !en
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about en - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <bb|Gishnob> !man
[05:17] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[05:17] <PierreG> Devant la raction je demeure convaincu de la ncessit de regrouper tous les messages imaginables sous un mme site
[05:17] <bb|Gishnob> wow
[05:17] <bb|Gishnob> this ubuntu bot is like the man pages
[05:17] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell pierreg about fr
[05:17] <bb|Gishnob> !ls
[05:17] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:17] <ardchoille> !fr > PierreG
[05:17] <zephen> !botabuse
[05:17] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[05:17] <crimsun> I honestly think that if root access is such a concern, you need stronger MAC, like SEL policies.
[05:17] <sethk> PierreG, I don't disagree.
[05:18] <sethk> crimsun, I don't disagree with that.
[05:18] <PierreG> Thank you sethk !!!
[05:18] <mandeep> if theres an update that i know i dont need
[05:18] <mandeep> how do i remove it so the update manager stops asking me to update
[05:18] <CalcMaster86>  does anyone know the port the openssh daemon uses? i need to enable port forwarding on my router
[05:18] <sethk> CalcMaster86, 22
[05:18] <zephen> lol
[05:18] <CalcMaster86> thanks
[05:18] <tamale> hey everyone.. tryin a new install here.. neither the standard nor alternate disc mounts when i boot from disc.. both discs verify fine in other computers and the drive is good 'cause i use it in windows all the time...  i tried another drive in an external enclosure but i don't think bios can really try booting from a cd-rom drive runnin over USB
[05:19] <crimsun> sethk: besides, where does it stop? The typical user already has physical access to the machine, which all but throws security measures out the window.
[05:19] <sethk> tamale, some machines can boot from a usb cd, but most can't.
[05:19] <mister_roboto> sethk: only the real admin of the machines needs unrestricted access. frankly, most of what you deal with on this channel are noobs who should not be logging in as root nor should they be doing "sudo -i". They should just sudo single commands only or they are asking for trouble (the beginners i mean)
[05:19] <sethk> crimsun, in my situation the user doesn't have physical access.
[05:19] <PierreG> Problem I think is that developpers are busy making their code work and then leave the doc somewhat behind
[05:19] <ardchoille> crimsun: How so?
[05:19] <tamale> sethk: Well why aren't they mounting from my internal drive?
[05:19] <sethk> mister_roboto, if sudo -i is disallowed then I agree with you.
[05:20] <sethk> tamale, I'm not sure.  You mean IDE hard drives, cd drives, specifically what?
[05:20] <crimsun> sethk: then you've moved beyond the "default" user being discussed here. :)
[05:20] <warlock\wrk> I need to create an SSH account that has full access to /home/cs - can anyone help me?
[05:20] <tamale> i have one IDE cd rom drive and one sata hard drive
[05:20] <sethk> crimsun, no, not at all.  I install ubuntu and give my users the ability to log in and do xdmcp.  there is nothing whatsoever different about my box than if the user is sitting in front of the box.
[05:21] <crimsun> ardchoille: physical access implies the ability to control the physical mechanism of boot.
[05:21] <sethk> tamale, ok, and you can't access which one?  In which situation?
[05:21] <BlueEagle> warlock\wrk: I really don't see the problem. Is there something in man useradd that you do not understand?
[05:21] <crimsun> xdmcp? Tunneled, I hope?
[05:21] <kirsten> I have a question: i'm trying to install a printer driver, and the manufacturer gives me a choice between a Redhat/Mandrake/SuSe OR Debian (there is no ubuntu option :( ). which should i pick?
[05:21] <zephen> sethk, except that with physical access, without secure encryption and no chance of revealing the key, security doesn't matter
[05:21] <sethk> crimsun, I don't tunnel but typically they are on a vpn
[05:21] <tamale> sethk: When I boot from the standard disc, it hangs on "mounting root file system" until finally i get some text saying "The drive seems confused"
[05:21] <sethk> zephen, that's true
[05:22] <ardchoille> crimsun: Ok, teach me what that has to do with security issues. I'm curious. My BIOS is set to only boot from the hdd and botting to rescue mode is disabled. What more can I do?
[05:22] <sethk> zephen, however, if that is true, setting the root password does not mean that security is reduced.
[05:22] <tamale> sethk: When I boot from the alternate disc, it fails at the step where it tried to mount the cd-rom drive, saying that the disc must not be in the drive
[05:22] <zephen> sethk, i agree
[05:22] <crimsun> ardchoille: open the case, install another boot device, rejumper.
[05:22] <BlueEagle> kirsten: Doesn't gnome-print-manager recongnize your printer with the drivers it already has? which printer are we talking about?
[05:22] <zephen> sethk, i have problems with the 'let's not let newbie's do this', because i had to learn somehow, so do they
[05:22] <ardchoille> crimsun: Ah, good point, that
[05:23] <sethk> tamale, you boot from the sata drive and can't mount a cd?
[05:23] <kirsten> this is a Brother HL-1440 printer that is attached to a windows computer on the network
[05:23] <tamale> if i boot into windows on my sata drive, the cd drive is fine
[05:23] <tamale> like it always has been
[05:23] <zephen> I mean, hell, if someone told me 10 years ago not to ever rebuild a kernel, i wouldn't be using *nix still
[05:23] <kirsten> the default driver that comes with ubuntu does not work properly
[05:23] <tamale> i have some space set aside on the sata drive for ubuntu
[05:23] <sethk> zephen, I agree.  I like the solution someone said about changing the colors in a terminal with root access.  You can do this as easily (in fact more easily) with su than with sudo -i
[05:23] <BlueEagle> kirsten: How is the printer shared on the network?
[05:24] <sethk> tamale, ok, but you didn't answer my question.  in the situation where you can't mount the cd, what did you boot?
[05:24] <kirsten> the windows computer that the printer is physically attached to is sharing the printer over the network
[05:24] <kirsten> using windows file/printer sharing
[05:24] <tamale> i'm booting from the cd rom drive
[05:24] <zephen> The idea that not allowing root login/not setting password, is the OpenSSH security idea - if you google you can find differing opinions :)
[05:24] <tamale> with either the standard dapper or the alternate dapper install disc
[05:24] <sethk> kirsten, I have the same printer, and I have no problems printing to it.
[05:24] <Jay_> hello
[05:24] <sethk> zephen, indeed.
[05:24] <BlueEagle> kirsten: So then I assume that you've got samba installed so that you will be able to connect to that windows share?
[05:25] <Jay_> anyone here having wifi problems since an unpgrade
[05:25] <argument> what should i use to create an ISO image from a CD
[05:25] <kirsten> sethk, which printer driver are you using?
[05:25] <BlueEagle> !burning
[05:25] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[05:25] <sethk> tamale, you are booting from the cd, and you can't access the cd?
[05:25] <sethk> kirsten, just a ppd file
[05:25] <kirsten> err, I'm not sure if I have samba installed
[05:25] <BlueEagle> argument: oh wait. the other way around? dd
[05:25] <sethk> kirsten, with cups.
[05:25] <argument> thank you sir but i mean the opposite of burn
[05:25] <kirsten> i didn't expilcitly install it
[05:25] <BlueEagle> argument: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=myfile.iso
[05:25] <cdubya> kirsten, you're gonna need it
[05:25] <kirsten> what is cups?
[05:25] <tamale> sethk, read my messages more carefully please lol.  Two different errors happen depending on if i booted from the alternate disc vs. the standard disc
[05:25] <sethk> argument, mkiso
[05:25] <tamale> neither one lets me install
[05:25] <kirsten> ok samba
[05:26] <kirsten> apt-get install samba?
[05:26] <sethk> argument, sorry, from an already burned cd, dd is the correct answer
[05:26] <ardchoille> BlueEagle: Does that just make an ISO of the cdrom?
[05:26] <zephen> my firewall gets hit about 300 times a day on sshd from Chinese IPs that try random username/password combinations - they've never tried a root login
[05:26] <scrappy_> argument: cat /dev/cdrom > file.iso
[05:26] <BlueEagle> ardchoille: it sure does
[05:26] <zephen> attempts at root logins raise all the flags
[05:26] <ardchoille> BlueEagle: Thank you :)
[05:26] <sethk> tamale, I guess I missed some of your answers.  I'm not going to scroll back up to read them again.  I hope you find your problem.
[05:27] <tamale> huh?
[05:27] <zephen> well it did get hit until i got wise and changed my sshd port
[05:27] <tamale> my problem is that i can't get either installer to work
[05:27] <tamale> they both fail at reading the cd
[05:27] <tamale> (that i just booed from)
[05:27] <BlueEagle> ardchoille and argument: Note however that some "copy protected" cd-roms won't be happy with dd.
[05:28] <sethk> tamale, I would need more info than that.  You advised me to read your answers more carefully.  Sorry if I missed some of the information.
[05:28] <BlueEagle> (or so I've heard)
[05:28] <ardchoille> BlueEagle: Ah, yeah, noted
[05:28] <tamale> sethk:  What additional information would you need?
[05:28] <tamale> sethk: The standard disc failed at "mounting root filesystem"
[05:28] <tamale> sethk: The alternate disc said it couldn't mount the cd-rom drive and said i might not have any disc in the drive
[05:29] <sethk> tamale, hopefully an error message.  I don't know what you might mean by the "standard" disc or the "alternate" disc.  Use IDE or SATA or USB.  Tell me where you boot from, and not only where it stops, but what message it displays at that point.
[05:29] <cdubya> kirsten, you get samba installed
[05:30] <tamale> I thought dapper downloads came in two flavors, a standard and an alternate disc
[05:30] <tamale> standard being a 'live boot'
[05:30] <kirsten> cdubya, yes i just installed samba
[05:30] <tamale> alternate letting you do things like server and oem installs
[05:30] <whitesuit> hi guys, im using both bluefish and screem to do some php development..when i click the preview button on both applications they open the browser, but it always asks to download the file, instead of loading the page. Do you guys know how to fix this ?
[05:30] <tamale> and a text mode
[05:30] <cdubya> kirsten, k
[05:30] <sethk> tamale, oh, you are taking about different cds.  I thought you were talking about different drives.  You said something about a USB drive.
[05:30] <kirsten> cdubya i'm not sure it did anything yet
[05:30] <tamale> i tried that too
[05:30] <cdubya> kirsten, how did you set the printer up?
[05:30] <sethk> tamale, tried what too?
[05:30] <tamale> a usb cd rom drive
[05:31] <cdubya> kirsten, System > Administration > Printing  ?
[05:31] <robert_> is there a package for xine's extra codecs?
[05:31] <kirsten> cdubya i originally tried setting it up as a windows network printer
[05:31] <tamale> but i don't think my bios supports booting from usb cd rom drives
[05:31] <kirsten> yes, that what i did
[05:31] <sethk> tamale, ok, that's quite possible.
[05:31] <tamale> ok, so what kind of error message would help?
[05:31] <zephen> tamale, boot from a floppy into the cd
[05:31] <tamale> i didn't really get any from the alternate disc
[05:31] <tamale> i have no floppy drive
[05:31] <t> can someone explain mounting to me? when I mount a smbfs using sudo, I can only create files in the share using sudo :(
[05:31] <zephen> tamale, then you can't do that :)
[05:32] <sethk> tamale, does it print anything?  or does it just print a progress message and lock up?
[05:32] <tamale> on the standard disc, i got a steam of error messages saying something about the drive being confused
[05:32] <tamale> (literally, that's the word it used)
[05:32] <kirsten> sethk suggested i use cups, is there a way to find out the uri of the printer?
[05:32] <sethk> t look at the uid= and gid= options for mounting a file system that doesn't have usernames and privileges
[05:32] <cdubya> kirsten, it's been awhile since I set mine up.....have a Samsung, but I remember I installed samba, setup the printer as a windows printer and made sure I used the shared printer name......otherwise it won't work right.
[05:32] <cdubya> kirsten, you shouldn't have to do that
[05:33] <kirsten> cdubya ok, thanks i'll try that
[05:33] <BDerwent> hello all, i need some help on partitioning and such
[05:33] <cdubya> kirsten, do you know the shared name of the printer?
[05:33] <zephen> BDerwent, oh well then ask away
[05:33] <Rehevkor> Ok, samba is driving me insane. It works perfectly in Ubuntu using Nautilus, but won't work at all in Xubuntu with anything, including smbmount.
[05:33] <sethk> tamale, the exact message might help.  It might not, but I can't know that without seeing it.
[05:33] <kirsten> maybe it will work now that samba is installed
[05:33] <tamale> sethk:  Ok, i'll boot from the standard disc again
[05:33] <tamale> hold up
[05:33] <zephen> BDerwent, i'm mostly interested in helping with the 'such'
[05:33] <sethk> tamale, you also said something about a message that there is no cd in the drive.  where did that message come from?
[05:33] <kirsten> cdubya i think it is called BrotherH
[05:33] <tamale> sethk: That's what i see when i try the alternate disc's text-mode install
[05:34] <sethk> tamale, ok, can you get the exact message?
[05:34] <BDerwent> alright, i need to partition a laptop hard drive to keep windows on 60gb and ubuntu in 40
[05:34] <sethk> tamale, is that the only thing it prints?  Or is that one of a number of suggestions about what might be wrong?
[05:34] <tamale> well which should i try first
[05:34] <tamale> standard or alternate
[05:34] <tamale> i can only boot from one cd :p
[05:34] <Rehevkor> er, nevermind... it suddenly works. Evidently it just fails with file managers.
[05:34] <sethk> tamale, whichever gives you more error information.
[05:34] <cdubya> kirsten, so you're sure you got the right IP for the machine, and a legit user and pass that has printing rights on the Winders machine when you set it up?
[05:34] <zephen> BDerwent, ok .. um do that then
[05:34] <magice> can anyone help me with some nvidia issues??
[05:35] <BDerwent> and i can't allow windows to install itself, because it will spread out and make a bunch of partitions that ubuntu and windows can't use
[05:35] <DanaG> argh, even Metacity is lagging on maximize.
[05:35] <robert_> is there a ubuntu package for xine's extra codecs?
[05:35] <tamale> i think the standard disc  gives more info.  ok, boot menu.. choose start or install ubuntu, correct?
[05:35] <kirsten> cdubya yes, i'm pretty sure i got that right
[05:35] <DanaG> How do I fix this?
[05:35] <zephen> BDerwent, i would personally install windows first, use it's partitioner to create the 2 primary partitions, and only format the one you want to use for windows
[05:35] <sethk> BDerwent, you can tell windows to use only 60 gigs during windows install.  Unless you are using a recovery cd from your laptop manufacturer, or something like that.
[05:35] <DanaG> It also lags on key input.
[05:35] <cdubya> kirsten, the only reason I ask is that can be a bit persnickity that way.....
[05:36] <magice> I installed the drivers via Automatix, and now when I boot up it hangs forever on the "NVidia" logo, when I go to my xorg.conf and change nvidia to nv it works. Any idea what is causing the problems?
[05:36] <BDerwent> i've never had to instal windows before
[05:36] <zephen> BDerwent, after that, you put in the Ubuntu installer and install on that 2nd partition you created but didn't format
[05:36] <sethk> BDerwent, so?
[05:36] <cdubya> kirsten, you have to make sure that's all square or you can set the printer up and have no joy for quite some time and not know why
[05:36] <magice> I installed the nvidia drivers via Automatix, and now when I boot up it hangs forever on the "NVidia" logo, when I go to my xorg.conf and change nvidia to nv it works. Any idea what is causing the problems?
[05:36] <zephen> BDerwent, it's not hard, i assure you
[05:36] <BDerwent> eh, guess i'll just get over it
[05:36] <BDerwent> it's just a brand new laptop
[05:36] <BDerwent> scared and all
[05:36] <zephen> BDerwent, then you will want to dual boot, grub will handle it easily
[05:36] <kirsten> cdubya well, when i set it up the first time i could print but only the first page would come out right
[05:36] <sethk> BDerwent, does it have recovery CDs?
[05:36] <zephen> BDerwent, advice - go for it!
[05:36] <BDerwent> i hope not
[05:37] <BDerwent> i will
[05:37] <BDerwent> thanks
[05:37] <sethk> BDerwent, you hope not?  why?
[05:37] <Gun_Smoke> I keep on randomly being logged out of Ubuntu when gaim is running.. Any ideas?  I first though maybe compiz was doing it.. i disabled it, but it still continues.
[05:37] <BDerwent> haven't looked at all the cd's yet
[05:37] <zephen> BDerwent, i mean you have no date to lose, you have the install disks - you can't really fsck up
[05:37] <magice> If anyone can help me with Nvidia problems MSG me
[05:37] <zephen> s/date/data
[05:37] <sethk> Gun_Smoke, anything useful in the logs?
[05:37] <BDerwent> thanks again
[05:37] <BDerwent> i just need emotional support
[05:37] <zephen> BDerwent, tell us how it goes :)
[05:38] <BDerwent> alright
[05:38] <BDerwent> will do
[05:38] <sethk> magice, I don't use automatix.  from your description the nvidia drivers aren't installed correctly (since the nv driver works)
[05:38] <Gun_Smoke> sethk:  Which ones?  I don't know where to look.
[05:38] <magice> sethk: I also tried apt-get install nvidia-glx, but alas the same result
[05:38] <magice> any idea what can be causing it?
[05:38] <tamale> sethk:  What should I try to boot here
[05:38] <sethk> Gun_Smoke, /var/log/messages, and /var/log/syslog.  also do  ls -ltr /var/log    and look at anything else that changed recently
[05:39] <zephen> general non-sequitur - i would never use automatix of any of the other 'helpers'
[05:39] <tamale> sethk: standard "start or install ubuntu" ?
[05:39] <kirsten> gdubya i tried printing a test page, but instead it just printed some odd text :(
[05:39] <Gun_Smoke> sethk:  Still a bit lost
[05:39] <sethk> magice, I've only installed the nvidia drivers by downloading from the nvidia site and running their install program.
[05:39] <magice> ok
[05:39] <sethk> tamale, whichever gives you better error messages.  The same thing is happening with all of them, so choose the option that shows you the most information.
[05:40] <tamale> sethk: Ok, starting ubuntu standard installer
[05:40] <sethk> Gun_Smoke, about?  I'm hoping that you'll see some messages about why you are getting logged out.
[05:40] <tamale> sethk: Already stuck at "mounting root file system"
[05:40] <sethk> tamale, and it stays there forever?  Never shows anything else?
[05:40] <sethk> tamale, is the drive on the light on?
[05:40] <Gun_Smoke> sethk:  I gedit them?
[05:41] <sethk> Gun_Smoke, sure.  any editor.  gedit is fine.
[05:41] <tamale> sethk: Yup, it's flashing
[05:41] <sethk> tamale, and it just stays there, forever?
[05:41] <tamale> sethk: Eventually i'll get some text errors
[05:41] <tamale> sethk: when i get them i'll type them here
[05:41] <sethk> tamale, ok
[05:41] <cdubya> kirsten, and you chose the right driver for the printer, right.....?
[05:42] <Kimahri> i got a quick question for those who are running kubuntu... how would i go about getting samba configured without hand-writing the smb.conf?
[05:42] <DanaG> aah, I fixed it -- it was the forced FSAA and vsync.
[05:42] <cdubya> Kimahri, samba-swat
[05:42] <tamale> sethk: "hda: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01)
[05:42] <Kimahri> cdubya: then web browser it to http://localhost:901?
[05:42] <tamale> Disabling IRQ #169
[05:42] <sethk> tamale, hda is the cdrom, I take it?
[05:43] <cdubya> !swat
[05:43] <tamale> sethk:  I have no real way of knowing, but yes, i would assume so
[05:43] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:43] <sethk> tamale, check whether you have the drive jumpered as master but are using an EIDE cable.
[05:43] <Gun_Smoke> sethk:  i really don't know what to be looking for
[05:43] <cdubya> Kimahri, ^^^^^^^__________________ check out that link......
[05:43] <tamale> it is a master
[05:43] <tamale> and i am using an EIDE cable
[05:43] <tamale> is that bad
[05:43] <sethk> Gun_Smoke, I don't either, unfortunately.  Any sort of a clue.
[05:43] <tamale> ?
[05:43] <sethk> tamale, yes, that's not correct.  If it is eide (blue, black, grey connectors) the drive must be jumpered as cable select
[05:44] <IcemanV9> Ubuntu rocks! The Gimp + Picasa = great photo editing stuff. I didn't need The PhotoShop (never own one anyway). 
[05:44] <sethk> tamale, for some reason I've never tracked down, I've seen this cause problems in linux where it appears to work normally in windows.
[05:44] <tamale> sethk: That's nuts
[05:44] <sethk> tamale, why?
[05:44] <tamale> haha
[05:44] <tamale> just doesn't make sense.
[05:44] <tamale> thank you though!
[05:44] <kirsten> cdubya, i'm not sure if i have the correct driver.  I selected the HL-1440 from the Brother list in ubuntu, but the driver it gives me is called "hl1250"
[05:44] <sethk> tamale, it certainly makes sense
[05:44] <tamale> if windows can figure it out
[05:44] <tamale> and i can boot from the drive
[05:44] <sethk> tamale, the eide cable is intended for use with drives jumpered with cable select.
[05:44] <tamale> then why can't linux mount it
[05:45] <Kimahri> cdubya: that link doesn't help
[05:45] <Kimahri> it's got my situation backward.
[05:45] <Rookie-> linux dosent do more tehn you tell it to do
[05:45] <sethk> tamale, It appears you know more about it than I do (or at least you think you do).  So good luck with it.
[05:45] <cdubya> Kimahri, hang on....
[05:45] <Kimahri> trying to share files off the kubuntu machine to a windows box... not the other way round :P
[05:45] <tamale> sethk: no need to get snippy, i'm just saying it's really odd
[05:45] <cdubya> Kimahri, http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/SWAT.html
[05:45] <tamale> sethk: also, i wonder if it should be addressed in a future version of ubuntu
[05:45] <tamale> sethk: sounds like a bad bug to me
[05:45] <Gun_Smoke> sethk:  It's a greek to me.. no fireworks or signs that say problem lol...
[05:46] <sethk> tamale, no, because it isn't a bad bug.  It isn't a bug at all.  Look at the EIDE spec.
[05:46] <Gun_Smoke> *all
[05:46] <sethk> Gun_Smoke, there may not be anything, but there may.
[05:46] <tamale> sethk: Spec or not, if it works at all, it should be able to work for the installer, no?
[05:46] <sethk> Gun_Smoke, so possibly you don't see it because it isn't there.
[05:46] <sethk> tamale, no
[05:46] <cdubya> kirsten, if you can spool to it but the output is garbled, I'm just guessing, but it sounds like a driver issue.....
[05:46] <wordsofglass> hey can anybody help me mount my spare harddrive? i just compiled a new kernel and it wont work
[05:47] <cdubya> kirsten, I base that purely on the fact that your data is at least making it to the printer, though it's not coming out right....
[05:47] <sethk> wordsofglass, it works with your old kernel?
[05:47] <tamale> sethk: I wish i could talk more about this, but it's off-topic.  Thank you for the help.. I never would've guessed that was the problem.
[05:47] <wordsofglass> sethk: yeah
[05:47] <codecaine> how come when you use tightvncserver and you try to connect to view the desktop it just shows a linux terminal as root?
[05:47] <kirsten> cdubya, yes, that makes sense
[05:47] <Gun_Smoke> sethk: gaim seems to work fine..  I think it's only dumping me when i log into IRC..
[05:47] <sethk> tamale, it's worth trying, since I've seen it work.  In fact just two days ago we had a problem here that was fixed that way.
[05:47] <cdubya> kirsten, that's why I asked about the driver you chose
[05:47] <zephen_> tamale, hmm i had to disconnect, what *was* the problem?
[05:48] <wordsofglass> sethk: i have reiser installed, but it tells me folder is busy/device already mounted
[05:48] <sethk> Gun_Smoke, ok, but why?  Do you mean your desktop exits and puts you back at the gdm login?
[05:48] <wordsofglass> but it's not
[05:48] <kirsten> cdubya, i'm trying to download a better driver from the manufacturer
[05:48] <Gun_Smoke> sethk:  Yup
[05:48] <tamale> zephen_: I guess the ubuntu installer can't mount cd-rom drives setup as masters on an EIDE cable
[05:48] <kirsten> cdubya they have a debian driver which i'm going to try
[05:48] <zephen_> tamale, ah ok. thanks
[05:48] <weex> i just got a 300gb hard drive, how should i format it to use in both windows and linux?
[05:48] <zephen_> wow
[05:48] <sethk> Gun_Smoke, probably the program is causing a seg fault in the X server.  Use xchat  :)
[05:48] <tamale> zephen_: Even if you can boot from the disc.
[05:48] <zephen_> weex, 1/2 each?
[05:48] <Gun_Smoke> sethk:  W/o the session/action/etc or whatever is usually there.
[05:49] <sethk> wordsofglass, I take it mount (with no arguments)   doesn't show it as mounted?
[05:49] <weex> zephen_ lets assume so
[05:49] <zephen_> tamale, i may try to re-create that
[05:49] <troytroy> hi pls could anybody test this link for me www.newsleecher.com not opening on my browser
[05:49] <sethk> Gun_Smoke, I've not tried IRC with gaim.
[05:49] <cdubya> kirsten, weird that you were able to print before though.....with the same driver?
[05:49] <wordsofglass> sethk: nope, it's not in mtab
[05:49] <weex> zephen_ actually i'd like one big partition...was thinking about fat32 but there's a 4gb limit on filesize right?
[05:49] <zovirl> when I try to install totem-xine, synaptic wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop
[05:49] <zovirl> is that ok?
[05:49] <sethk> wordsofglass, if you compiled reiserfs as a module, does it show up in the output of lsmod?
[05:49] <warlock\wrk> how to change the 'hostname' of the server? ex, root@myhostname: ?
[05:50] <kirsten> cdubya i wasn't really able to print before, only the first page came out right
[05:50] <wordsofglass> it's built-in
[05:50] <zephen_> weex, you'll need 2 partitions - one for linux and one for windows
[05:50] <cdubya> kirsten, what do you mean?
[05:50] <weex> if cound ext2fs that's supposed to allow win to read ext2 partitions but wonder if anyone can say nice things about it
[05:50] <sethk> wordsofglass, although from that message I'd be inclined to think that it's a kernel driver issue for the IDE chipset (or is it sata?)
[05:50] <cdubya> kirsten, you mean a test page or something?
[05:50] <weex> found*
[05:50] <zephen_> weex, no 4gb limit on the fat
[05:50] <kirsten> cdubya its like you said, the data gets to the printer but its garbled or it doesnt come out right
[05:50] <cdubya> kirsten, ah
[05:50] <cdubya> kirsten, what are you running? Dapper?
[05:50] <wordsofglass> sethk: it's ide, main HD is sata
[05:51] <magice> .. can anyone help me.. I installed nvidia drivers and now when I start my computer up it is completley locking down on the NVIDIA splash screen.
[05:51] <kirsten> cdubya i tried printing a 22 page document, and the 1st page printed ok, and the 2nd page was garbled, and the other pages didn't print at all
[05:51] <cdubya> kirsten, ouch
[05:51] <kirsten> cdubya i'm running ubuntu 6.06
[05:51] <sethk> wordsofglass, is it possible, then, that your kernel build doesn't have support for the IDE chipset?
[05:51] <zephen_> weex, so what i'd do is install windows first, make 2 partitions with it's installer, format the windows one FAT32
[05:51] <cdubya> kirsten, what model of brother printer?
[05:51] <zephen_> weex, then install ubuntu on the other one. Grub will probably set itself up so that you can dual boot
[05:51] <kirsten> Brother HL-1440
[05:51] <Kimahri> cdubya: i've done those steps on that one site... and inetd is not starting swat at all
[05:51] <weex> i'm not installing...this is just for storage but i'd like it be universal
[05:51] <wordsofglass> sethk: i think i'm just not used to xconfig, i might have found the problem
[05:52] <kirsten> cdubya Brother HL 1440
[05:52] <zephen_> weex, ah, just use the FAT32 then
[05:52] <sethk> cdubya, I run that same printer, which is why I said the ppd file is known to work.
[05:52] <troytroy> hi pls could anybody test this link for me www.newsleecher.com not opening on my browser
[05:52] <sethk> wordsofglass, ok
[05:52] <weex> is it just fud that ms says fat32 can't support more than a 4gb file?
[05:52] <zephen_> weex, unfortunately that is the best solution
[05:52] <magice> Does anyone know WHAT would cause my Nvidia drivers to lock it up at then nv splash screen?
[05:52] <magice> 
[05:52] <sethk> troytroy, worrks here
[05:52] <sethk> works, even
[05:52] <Gun_Smoke> anyone  else have any ideas why gaim would be dumping me back to the gdm?
[05:52] <cdubya> sethk, point taken, but that doesn't mean her copy isn't somehow messed up......
[05:52] <zephen_> weex, it is fud now, didn't used to be
[05:52] <sethk> cdubya, true.
[05:52] <troytroy> sethk: thanks its just wont open here
[05:52] <zephen_> weex, ah 4gb file
[05:52] <weex> so http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q314463 is wrong?
[05:53] <zephen_> weex, yes
[05:53] <sethk> troytroy, other pages open?  I guess that's implicit in the question.
[05:53] <troytroy> sethk: yes
[05:53] <zephen_> weex, but there is a way to have a larger than 4gb file on there, if you use linux to create the file
[05:53] <sethk> weex, no, it isn't wrong
[05:53] <zephen_> weex, what are the 4gb+ files you have
[05:53] <sethk> troytroy, I tried it with konqueror.
[05:53] <crash__> limewire
[05:54] <weex> i'm thinking images that i might burn with nero
[05:54] <sethk> troytroy, works with firefox also.
[05:54] <troytroy> sethk: ok all sites open except this particular one
[05:54] <weex> or video files
[05:54] <crash__> install
[05:54] <zephen_> weex, yeah, i had the same problem with some dvd isos - i googled and found a way that i could write bigger than 4gb isos through linux
[05:55] <jeff_> I accidently deleted libesd.so.0 so now gnome won't boot, what's the best way to fix this????
[05:55] <sethk> troytroy, odd, but I have no clue why.
[05:55] <zephen_> weex, well actually i did it in freebsd , but i think the same principle holds
[05:55] <gary[ubuntu] > !xserver
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <gary[ubuntu] > !x
[05:55] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:55] <sethk> jeff_, boot a cd and copy the file back to where it is supposed to be
[05:55] <sethk> jeff_, of course for that you need a copy of the file.
[05:56] <weex> ok well i'm going to go ext2 and see if this ext2fs driver for win works...wish me luck
[05:56] <zephen_> weex, it works
[05:56] <weex> great then...problem solved
[05:56] <zephen_> weex, just not all that well ;)
[05:56] <weex> uh ok
[05:56] <jeff_> sethk: is there a package I can install which would fix it?
[05:56] <zephen_> anyway go for it
[05:56] <weex> wait, not all that well...how's that? speed, stability?
[05:57] <sethk> jeff_, might be.  if you can't boot, though, how can you install a package?  Give me the file again and I'll tell you the package name.
[05:57] <zephen_> weex, i don't trust the writing
[05:57] <allen> hey how do I make ubuntu boot in text mode?
[05:57] <Tidus> sethk: he said gnome wouldn't start... but the system does boot
[05:57] <jeff_> sethk: libesd.so.0, I can't boot gnome, but I can launch a terminal
[05:57] <sethk> Tidus, ok, I misread it.
[05:58] <jeff_> I'm running xchat right now
[05:58] <sethk> jeff_, libesd-also0  and also in package libesd0
[05:58] <wordsofglass> allen: you can just choose a text session after it's booted up
[05:58] <jeff_> thanks, ill give it a try
[05:58] <sethk> jeff_, wait
[05:58] <sethk> jeff_, libesd.so.0 is a symlink.  do you still have libesd.so.0.2.36?
[05:58] <weex> zephen_ you've had an issue where the writing messed up?
[05:58] <jeff_> sethk: i would think so
[05:59] <wordsofglass> allen: do you want it to default to text mode?
[05:59] <sethk> jeff_, ok, then just cd into that directory, and do:   ln -s libesd.so.0.2.36 libesd.so.0
[05:59] <zephen_> weex, i've had corrupted isos that i can only blame on transferring with ext2fs driver
[05:59] <jeff_> sethk: do you know what directory that is?
[05:59] <sethk> jeff_, that rev is correct for breezy.  If you are running a different version, do ls libesd.so*
[05:59] <DanC_u> hmm... sound doesn't seem to work. I see a red X near the volume icon in the gnome panel. Any clues on how to trouble-shoot?
[05:59] <zephen_> weex, others though, think it's pretty good
[05:59] <sethk> jeff_, in breezy it is /usr/lib
[05:59] <tamale> sethk: Well this bites, I changed the jumper to cable select and i'm still getting the problem.... ???  :[
[05:59] <troytroy> sethk: ok think the problem is from my machine. site opens from my proxy server
[05:59] <sethk> tamale, no change at all?
[06:00] <weex> ok...well i'm willing to be part guinea pig so i'll give it a try
[06:00] <tamale> sethk: Nada.
[06:00] <sethk> troytroy, that makes sense, sure.
[06:00] <Gun_Smoke> sethk:  shift+backspace.  Is that supposed to log you out?
[06:00] <sethk> tamale, you can try disabling dma for ide
[06:00] <tamale> bios option?
[06:01] <sethk> Gun_Smoke, it kills the X server, and when the x server restarts it puts you in the gdm login.  It doesn't log you out, just kills all your executing processes.
[06:01] <drew> Hi, I have an HP Pavilion m7580n - a multimedia system. I'm having problems with my remote.
[06:01] <sethk> tamale, you can try that if the bios allows it to be turned off.  I was thinking of the linux option  ide=nodma
[06:01] <sethk> tamale, somewhere in the help screens it tells you how to add arguments to the kernel command line at the boot prompt
[06:01] <Tidus> i'm still stuck... webmin's not in apt, and swat's not working... how would i go about configuring the smb.conf without hand-writing it
[06:02] <Gun_Smoke> sethk:  Well I think that is what was happening.. I've been typing a billing miles an hour today.. It never even dawned on me that my be it.
[06:02] <Gun_Smoke> sethk:  I'm just an idiot.. Thanks for trying though.
[06:02] <sethk> Gun_Smoke, what, control-backspace?
[06:02] <tamale> sethk: I just added the parameters to the boot string in the standard install
[06:02] <jrattner1> Whats the easiest way to create a backup of my system and maintian it
[06:02] <sethk> Gun_Smoke, I've noticed that on ubuntu the things that in some distros require control-alt work with just control.
[06:02] <tamale> sethk: Looks like it's still hanging at mounting root filesystem
[06:03] <Tidus> the standard xserver-kill is CTRL+ALT+BKSPACE.
[06:03] <kirsten> does anyone know how to open a .rpm file?
[06:03] <cdubya> kirsten, you'll have to alien it to install it
[06:03] <sethk> tamale, let me know if any error message changes.
[06:03] <tamale> sethk: will do
[06:03] <kirsten> cdubya how do I "alien" it?
[06:03] <jeff_> sethk: thanks, worked like a charm
[06:03] <sethk> Tidus, that's correct.  unfortunately in ubuntu control- does the same thing.
[06:03] <etzerd> ?
[06:03] <Gun_Smoke> sethk:  I didn't touch ctrl
[06:03] <allen_> hey how do I force ubuntu to boot in text mode?
[06:03] <sethk> Tidus, I've not figured out why
[06:04] <sethk> Gun_Smoke, oh, sorry
[06:04] <Rookie-> init2
[06:04] <etzerd> is anyone of you can tell me how long does it take when you use automatix to update ubuntu?
[06:04] <sethk> Gun_Smoke, you said shift backspace.  My error.
[06:04] <sethk> Gun_Smoke, shift backspace is causing the problem?
[06:04] <nocti>  is there a tool to know the device drivers of an unknown box? thanks
[06:04] <etzerd> is anyone of you can tell me how long does it take when you use automatix to update ubuntu?
[06:05] <tamale> sethk: The error message didn't change at all
[06:05] <sethk> nocti, lspci will tell you a lot about the hardware.  Is that what you mean?
[06:05] <jrattner1> QUESTION: What calendars can gnome-pilot sync too
[06:05] <knapper> Can someone help me figure out why I cannot connect to any edonkey/emule servers?
[06:05] <knapper> :|
[06:05] <etzerd> is anyone of you can tell me how long does it take when you use automatix to update ubuntu?
[06:05] <sethk> tamale, this will sound even stranger, but try connecting it as secondary (hdc) instead of primary.
[06:05] <ardchoille> etzerd: automatix is not discussed or supported in this channel. /join #automatix
[06:05] <Gun_Smoke> sethk:  Just shift+backspace
[06:05] <tamale> secondary channel?
[06:05] <tamale> it IS in the secondary channel
[06:06] <sethk> tamale, you said it is hda
[06:06] <etzerd> thanks
[06:06] <tamale> it is
[06:06] <sethk> tamale, hda is primary, not secondary
[06:06] <[Ex0r] > hda is primary
[06:06] <[Ex0r] > hdb is secondary
[06:06] <nocti> sethk, something like that. but is there something for windows? the box has win98se installed, like an aida32 tool
[06:06] <tamale> well i don't know what to say
[06:06] <cdubya> kirsten, have you tried using one of the other drivers (the list shows the hl1250 by default, but there are two others there as well....just thought it might be worth the try.....
[06:06] <sethk> tamale, hda is primary master, hdb is primary slave
[06:06] <tamale> the drive is in the secondary ide channel
[06:06] <tamale> as a master
[06:06] <cdubya> !alien
[06:06] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[06:06] <tamale> and it's showing up as hda
[06:06] <sethk> tamale, ok, then, connect it as primary
[06:06] <tamale> i think my MSI bios does that since i have a sata drive
[06:07] <[Ex0r] > is one drive sata, and one ide ?
[06:07] <sethk> [Ex0r] , hdb is primary slave.  hdc is secondary master
[06:07] <tamale> yyes
[06:07] <tamale> it is
[06:07] <kirsten> cdubya sure, i can try those others, although i was hoping to be able to install the manufacturer's driver...
[06:07] <drew> Hi, I have an HP Pavilion m7580n - a multimedia system. I'm having problems with my remote. I'm using "sudo /usr/sbin/lircd -H dev/input -d /dev/input/event2 -n" and irw to test input, but that just locks my mouse up and returns nothing.
[06:07] <sethk> tamale, is the message referring to the sata drive, then?
[06:07] <eigenlambda> ya whats sata lattering?
[06:07] <rockzman> Can someone help me with my pypanel?
[06:07] <tamale> i don't know for sure
[06:07] <cdubya> kirsten, well, the suggested one seems to be one for the another model of Brother.....but perhaps one of the other will work
[06:07] <tamale> the message is
[06:07] <sethk> eigenlambda, without any ide hard drives, an sata drive will be hda
[06:07] <tamale> hda:  cdrom_pc_intr:  The drive appears confused
[06:08] <tamale> so it could be referencing both
[06:08] <eigenlambda> hda.  ok.
[06:08] <eigenlambda> lol
[06:08] <sethk> tamale, I think it is trying to talk to the cd drive but is actually talking to the sata drive
[06:08] <tamale> but i thought the standard boot disc doesn't look at the hard drives until you're looking at partitions
[06:08] <rockzman> Can someone help me with pypanel?
[06:08] <tamale> sethk:  That would explain the confusion
[06:08] <sethk> tamale, it shouldn't, but this is some sort of bug.
[06:08] <tamale> ;)
[06:08] <tamale> so what can i do
[06:08] <sethk> tamale, indeed.  I would disconnect the sata drive, and boot the cd, and see if it gets past that point.
[06:09] <sethk> tamale, if it does, then we'll know, and we can think about how to fix it.
[06:09] <tamale> alright, i'll just do it in bios
[06:09] <tamale> it's very hard to take this pc out
[06:09] <Rehevkor> is there any way to run xffm without it taking over the desktop?
[06:09] <passenger> hi, I user a Dapper on my box, and I want to install mesa 6.5.1 to use compiz. Even if I put compiz repositories, the 6.5.1 version don't appear in synaptic. anybody have a clue ?
[06:10] <kirsten> cdubya i tried one of the other drivers and it printed something for the test page but it doesn't look right... i'm going to try the other one now
[06:10] <davidjohnston> does ubuntu server give you any firewall tools or do you need to just do it with your ip tables
[06:11] <kirsten> cdubya it only prints 3/4 of the page :(
[06:12] <kirsten> cdubya the brother website had a redhat/mandrake/suse driver which is a .rpm file and it also had a debian driver which is a .deb file
[06:12] <Flannel> davidjohnston: ubuntu has iptables, and also provides firestarter, which is an interface to iptables
[06:12] <davidjohnston> Flannel: thanks you have been a world of help today
[06:12] <kirsten> cdubya i was able to double click on the .deb file and it did some stuff but didn't actually successfully install a driver
[06:12] <cdubya> kirsten, bummer.....I know that it's frustrating, but you might keep trying.....if that doesn't work with those two, then select another HL model driver for it that you might get lucky with and have it talk to the printer OK.....I mean, it's worth a shot. At least you know the driver would be for a Brother....:)
[06:12] <davidjohnston> Flannel you got time for one more
[06:13] <tsumae> lol @ the techanchor idiot :P
[06:13] <kirsten> cdubya is there some help/suggestion you can give for installing either this .rpm file or this .deb file?
[06:13] <tsumae> I thank ubuntu for being there and being a great desktop/server resource
[06:13] <tsumae> I'll just ignore articles like the one on osnews :)
[06:13] <cdubya> kirsten, if you have a .deb, you can install it....hopefully it won't break anything....:)
[06:13] <Flannel> kirsten: dpkg is the command to insatll local  deb files
[06:13] <cdubya> kirsten, sudo dpkg -i filename
[06:14] <davidjohnston> Flannel: actually I don't have firestarter and apt-get can't find it
[06:14] <davidjohnston> has anyone ever used openvpn
[06:14] <tamale> sethk: There are a lot of pages about problems with my motherboard and linux installs on sata drivers
[06:14] <ardchoille> Ubuntu does not provide firestarter. all three cd's install iptables, which is the firewall. Firestarter is just a gui to iptables
[06:14] <cdubya> kirsten, that what you were wanting to know?
[06:14] <tsumae> davidjohnston: I have its nice
[06:15] <kirsten> cdubya hang on, trying...
[06:15] <tsumae> davidjohnston: I've been usig l2tp server on linux though, because lots of routers support it, I tell them to just plug up the router to their network, and plug the computer in to there :)
[06:15] <sethk> tamale, interesting
[06:15] <cafuego_> davidjohnston: I use openvpn.
[06:15] <cafuego_> davidjohnston: Once you get the certificates sorted, it's nice & easy.
[06:15] <tsumae> oh gods its cafuego_
[06:15] <damian_> I have a question
[06:15] <Flannel> davidjohnston: right, it's not installed.  Oh, its a gtk program.  Um.  I'm sure you can find a curses frontend to iptables
[06:16] <tamale> sethk: It's because my motherboard turns sata drives into standard primary and secondary channels
[06:16] <kirsten> cdubya it didn't work :(
[06:16] <tamale> somehow
[06:16] <kirsten> cdubya that was with the .deb files
[06:16] <davidjohnston> tsumae: so I'm not a pro with vpns but i have a an old linksys wireless b router and I would like to setup access from outside
[06:16] <sethk> tamale, is it an asus?
[06:16] <tamale> MSI
[06:16] <davidjohnston> will it be much work to access my windows and mac shares by using openvpn
[06:16] <cdubya> kirsten, what didn't work?
[06:16] <cafuego_> davidjohnston: No.
[06:16] <tamale> Neo 865
[06:16] <sethk> tamale, ok.  another mobo to avoid  :)
[06:17] <ardchoille> kirsten: where did you get that .deb?
[06:17] <davidjohnston> so I need to use l2tp not pptp
[06:17] <cafuego_> davidjohnston: openvpn is neither
[06:17] <davidjohnston> ok...
[06:17] <tsumae> davidjohnston: well, the box I mean is just the client. you have to have a server
[06:17] <cdubya> archoille, I think she got it from here......http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/cups_drivers.html
[06:17] <kirsten> cdubya
[06:17] <kirsten> kirsten@kirsten-laptop:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i hl1440lpr-1.1.2-1.i386.deb
[06:17] <cafuego_> davidjohnston: Both Windows and MacOS have gui clients for openvpn.
[06:17] <kirsten> Password:
[06:17] <kirsten> (Reading database ... 93699 files and directories currently installed.)
[06:17] <kirsten> Preparing to replace hl1440lpr 1.1.2-1 (using hl1440lpr-1.1.2-1.i386.deb) ...
[06:17] <kirsten> Unpacking replacement hl1440lpr ...
[06:17] <kirsten> /var/lib/dpkg/info/hl1440lpr.postrm: line 3: /etc/init.d/lpd: No such file or directory
[06:18] <kirsten> dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 127
[06:18] <tsumae> cafuego_: yeah, but windows has l2tp and pptp dialers builtin :)
[06:18] <kirsten> dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
[06:18] <kirsten> /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postrm: line 3: /etc/init.d/lpd: No such file or directory
[06:18] <kirsten> dpkg: error processing hl1440lpr-1.1.2-1.i386.deb (--install):
[06:18] <tritium> kirsten: please do not paste
[06:18] <davidjohnston> right....but I have a server to run openvpn
[06:18] <Rookie-> use pastebin
[06:18] <kirsten>  subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 127
[06:18] <kirsten> /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postrm: line 3: /etc/init.d/lpd: No such file or directory
[06:18] <kirsten> dpkg: error while cleaning up:
[06:18] <kirsten>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
[06:18] <kirsten> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:18] <kirsten>  hl1440lpr-1.1.2-1.i386.deb
[06:18] <rockzman> PyPanel requires the Imlib2 library
[06:18] <kirsten> sorry
[06:18] <rockzman> where can i get this
[06:18] <cafuego_> tsumae: pptp is flawed and not secure; l2tp may or may not be easy to set up on Linux.
[06:18] <tsumae> cafuego_: also, I don't think openvpn supports users yet?
[06:18] <ardchoille> kirsten: You can't use just any old .deb in Ubuntu.
[06:18] <tsumae> cafuego_: they just have a key to input if I remember right.
[06:18] <tamale> sethk:  There are a lot of different ways I can configure the SATA / PATA channels... I'll play with it for a bit
[06:19] <cafuego_> tsumae: No, it works on a per-certificate basis.
[06:19] <davidjohnston> ok I'll check into it or do you think it would just be a better idea to mod my wrt54g linksys router to use one of the linux firmwares that completely support vpn servers
[06:19] <tsumae> cafuego_: well right, but p2tp is fine afaik
[06:19] <sethk> tamale, ok, good luck
[06:19] <sethk> tamale, let us know what the best configuration is.
[06:19] <tsumae> cafuego_: oh, so you can't have a network secured by key?
[06:19] <tsumae> hmm
[06:19] <cafuego_> tsumae: As in password?
[06:19] <tsumae> maybe I'm thinking of openbsd's vpn, I was thinking about vpns a while back
[06:20] <tsumae> cafuego_: yes
[06:20] <cafuego_> tsumae: Oh, no.. you have a password on the user's certificate
[06:20] <Ahmed> salut
[06:20] <cafuego_> So if they know the certificate pass, then can load the cert and thus connect.
[06:20] <zephen_> tsumae, i'm sure someone's said, but OpenVPN with work across windows/*nix
[06:20] <passenger> Hi, does anybody have installed xgl on his dapper box here ?
[06:21] <tamale> sethk:  I found a confiuration that worked
[06:21] <sethk> tamale, great, what is it?
[06:21] <rockzman> Please can someone help me I am trying to install a program and it does not work !
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> passenger, i see a lot of peopel that install it.. then it dont work.. and they have a hard time UNinstalling it.
[06:21] <stiv2k> how come i don't have a multimedia systems selector in my system > preferences ?
[06:21] <tamale> sethk: Instead of running in "SATA Mode only"  with the option "PATA Keep" enabled, I'm in "SATA + PATA" mode
[06:21] <tsumae> zephen_: I know it will
[06:22] <tamale> sethk:  Ubuntu is booting the live disc now.
[06:22] <sethk> tamale, interesting.  The problem on the asus mobo is similar.
[06:22] <zephen_> tsumae, then you are a knowledgable guy
[06:22] <passenger> Dr_Willis, the main probleme is that I added the compiz repositories to apt, but the last mesa version don't appear in synaptic...
[06:22] <tamale> sethk: Think I should annodate this thread?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233540
[06:22] <sethk> tamale, looking
[06:23] <sethk> tamale, yes, definitely.
[06:23] <tsumae> zephen_: I was looking at VPN software a few weeks ago. I'm going to replace a Sonicwall
[06:23] <tamale> i'd over course mention how mine's a P865, not P965  ;)
[06:23] <tamale> HOLY CRAP MY BOOMSLANG IS SENSITIVE IN GNOME
[06:23] <tamale> lol
[06:23] <tsumae> zephen_: I final conclusion was using l2tp server, since windows and routers usually have it built in
[06:23] <sethk> tamale, yes.  you might to also start a new thread for p965
[06:23] <tamale> 865
[06:23] <tsumae> *built-in client
[06:23] <Awal> I got xgl and compiz working \m/
[06:23] <rockzman> DO anyone know another kinda of program like pypanel
[06:24] <tsumae> s/I/my/ :))
[06:24] <passenger> Awal, i need mesa 6.5.1 but I only have acces to 6.4
[06:24] <tsumae> well I better work on my programming now :) later.
[06:24] <argument> tamale, you'll not be able to fix that
[06:24] <passenger> Awal, which rep did you added to your apt ?
[06:24] <Awal> passenger, I used this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225141
[06:24] <zephen_> tsumae, ah ok, i stopped being lazy and scrolled up :)
[06:25] <tamale> sethk: Thanks again for all the help.. the installer is working fine.
[06:25] <stiv2k> how do i set which sound daemon to have gnome use?  i can't hear any playback in rhythmbox but i can in xmms
[06:25] <warlock\wrk> can I see whats in a .tar.gz file without extracting it somewhere?
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> warlock\wrk,  i use 'mc' to explore the contents of those kind of files
[06:26] <warlock\wrk> ah, doesnt excist. nevermind :-(
[06:26] <warlock\wrk> command not found
[06:26] <ardchoille> Indeed, mc works great for that
[06:26] <warlock\wrk> ok then, ill install it then.
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> warlock\wrk,  logic 101 - INSTALL IT then. :P
[06:26] <debuntu> warlock\wrk, the -t arguement will list the archives
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> lol
[06:26] <ardchoille> warlock\wrk: You have to install it
[06:26] <warlock\wrk> :P
[06:26] <ardchoille> !info mc
[06:26] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB
[06:26] <warlock\wrk> yeayeye! :o(
[06:26] <warlock\wrk> ok there we go
[06:27] <Tidus> i have another question.  webmin has disappeared from the repos, and i'm wondering how to get it.
[06:27] <warlock\wrk> ok how do i check the cstrike.tar.gz content?
[06:27] <ardchoille> !webmin
[06:27] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> Tidus,  go to the webmin homepage and use their source/installer.
[06:27] <MattAdam> Does anyone know if there is work being done to upgrade rails on ubuntu to a version that doesn't have the recent security issues?
[06:27] <[Ex0r] > Tidus- www.webmin.org. Download their source and compile it yourself :)
[06:27] <debuntu> thank god! webmin is officially crap!
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> If you insist. (and yes i like it also for some tasks)
[06:27] <warlock\wrk> ok it all lagged
[06:27] <warlock\wrk> lol :-(
[06:27] <sethk> warlock\wrk, you mean get a list of files in that archive?  tar tvzf cstrike.tar.gz
[06:27] <[Ex0r] > I wonder why it's no longer supported.
[06:28] <argument> i don't even know what webmin is, but i know it sucks :P
[06:28] <debuntu> warlock\wrk, yeah like i said, the -t flag ...
[06:28] <sethk> I use webmin all the time.  for some things it is excellent
[06:28] <BHSPitMonkey> when I connect to a samba share from ubuntu, it lets me in, but when I connect from windows, it demands a user/pass
[06:28] <warlock\wrk> yeah.. but
[06:28] <ardchoille> argument: lol
[06:28] <mitrovarr> does anyone know if vnc viewers have any special backend needs not listed in the dependancies?  I have a xubuntu computer that won't connect to VNC servers, not with any program I try
[06:28] <warlock\wrk> uh
[06:28] <warlock\wrk> mc -t thefile.tar.gz ?
[06:28] <BHSPitMonkey> what should the defaults be there?
[06:28] <[Ex0r] > I've used it for over two years and haven't had any problems with it.
[06:28] <stiv2k> how do i set which sound daemon to have gnome use?  i can't hear any playback in rhythmbox but i can in xmms
[06:28] <debuntu> sethk, i wouldn't use it if you paid me
[06:28] <debuntu> ymmv
[06:28] <warlock\wrk> Tidus, from quakenet?
[06:28] <debuntu> warlock\wrk, no, with tar
[06:28] <argument> vmware-server = the tits
[06:28] <sethk> warlock\wrk, not -t, t.  the the set of letters are commands, not options.
[06:28] <ardchoille> !worksforme > [Ex0r] 
[06:28] <sethk> debuntu, don't worry, I'm not paying  :)
[06:28] <warlock\wrk> ah
[06:28] <debuntu> sethk, :)
[06:28] <Tidus> it's probably unsupported now because they're supported by OpenCountry...
[06:29] <debuntu> yeah
[06:29] <sethk> Tidus, what's that mean?
[06:29] <Tidus> and warlock\wrk: no... not from quakenet
[06:29] <warlock\wrk> uh... I still dont get it (I'm feeling retarded)
[06:29] <urmom> hey
[06:29] <[Ex0r] > ardchoille- Well, 'works for me' also translates to works for everybody that I know that has used it.
[06:29] <Tidus> sethk: they've got a 'sponsor' now that the debian/ubuntu peoples probably dont like.
[06:29] <mitrovarr> it comes up with all kinds of weird X errors when I try the K vnc app... krdc I believe
[06:29] <scrappy_> warlock\wrk: or just open it with file roller
[06:29] <sethk> Tidus, do you know why they don't like the sponsor?
[06:29] <[Ex0r] > but I guess the debian team knows best.
[06:29] <mitrovarr> vncviewer and vnc4viewer don't work either (silently fail)
[06:30] <[Ex0r] > ubuntu*
[06:30] <urmom> sorry but i have never really used ubuntu (fedora user) but what is the reason that everyone likes ubuntu so much as opposed to other distros?
[06:30] <sethk> urmom, load it up and try it.
[06:30] <[Ex0r] > urmom- stability and ease of use is why I switched.
[06:30] <debuntu> the sponser isn't so big on the idea of open source and free-as-in-beer software
[06:30] <Awal> I like ubuntu \m/
[06:30] <mitrovarr> It works better and it feels more complete
[06:30] <sethk> urmom, I've found it to be the best one on configuring wireless ethernet out of the box.
[06:30] <debuntu> they want to close webmin and i assume eventually charge
[06:30] <mitrovarr> I wanted something that used debian repositories, since they are so complete and well done, but debian has an update schedule best described as pathetic
[06:30] <debuntu> good luck
[06:31] <sethk> debuntu, ok, but as long as they don't put restrictions on webmin, who cares?
[06:31] <[Ex0r] > Speaking of which, my dad wants me to rewire his entire house for ethernet accessibility :\
[06:31] <debuntu> sethk, yeah i agree
[06:31] <warlock\wrk> scrappy_, whats a file roller?
[06:31] <urmom> hmm ive been really happy with fedora but as long as ubuntu users are happy then it helps the linux community :P
[06:31] <debuntu> sethk, the maintainers don't
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> mitrovarr,  run them from the shell. and read some vnc docs.. it can be a little  picky to learn.
[06:31] <shocktrooper1> how can I determine my isp address?
[06:31] <Tidus> found a .deb for webmin
[06:31] <Flannel> Tidus: webmin is in the repositories
[06:31] <Tidus> shocktrooper1: http://www.whatismyip.com
[06:31] <ardchoille> urmom: Ubuntu doesn't make me update so oftem, apt-get blows yum away, I feel Ubuntu is more stable and secure.. but, those are just my opinions (I switched from FC4 to Ubuntu)
[06:31] <sethk> debuntu, ok.  Too bad.  I've found it to be very helpful.
[06:31] <Tidus> Flannel: no it's not
[06:31] <mitrovarr> Dr_Willis:  I'm pretty sure it's an X issue or missing dependancies, because I can VNC this computer and another Ubuntu machine just fine
[06:31] <urmom> ya yum is crap
[06:31] <Tidus> Flannel: i have universe / multiverse / restricted turned on.  it's not there.
[06:31] <scrappy_> warlock\wrk: if double click on the file it should ask if you want to open with file roller
[06:32] <urmom> but i dont mind the updating :P
[06:32] <mitrovarr> Dr_Willis:  It's just the Xubuntu machine that fails
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> mitrovarr,   thats possible. i use vnc all the time with no hassles. :P
[06:32] <shocktrooper1> Tidus, thank you
[06:32] <scrappy_> warlock\wrk: im not really sure what youre doing i just threw that in
[06:32] <debuntu> sethk, well it's still open source at present ... fork it ;)
[06:32] <Flannel> Tidus: Odd.  Well, it was in breezy.  Removed for Dapper apparently
[06:32] <mitrovarr> Dr_Willis:  when you said to run it from the shell, did you mean the terminal or from a console (i.e. not in X)?
[06:32] <Tidus> Flannel: yah, it was in breezy
[06:32] <Flannel> mitrovarr: doesn't matter for most applications
[06:33] <[Ex0r] > webmin is going to pay a payed service ?
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> mitrovarr,  either. it dont matter. :P vncserver spawns a new desktop - when ran right.
[06:33] <debuntu> [Ex0r] , no, that was my interpretation
[06:33] <debuntu> [Ex0r] , they might just want to close it up .. non open source anymore
[06:34] <[Ex0r] > ah, I was going to say because I thought the guy said that as long as he made it, it would remain open source
[06:34] <ardchoille> debuntu: Can they do that without violating the GPL?
[06:34] <Flannel> PHP scripts have an awfully hard time closing their source ;)
[06:34] <[Ex0r] > it uses cgi :)
[06:34] <mitrovarr> Dr_Willis:  Anyways, you know of any X peculierities that would stop it from working?  When I run VNCviewers on that machine, it doesn't error message or ask for an IP, it just fails silently.
[06:34] <debuntu> ardchoille, lol sure can
[06:35] <mitrovarr> I think it's a missing library
[06:35] <Tidus> oh well... the .deb version of webmin installs and runs just fine
[06:35] <debuntu> ardchoille, well, maybe not without violating, but no one says they are held to it
[06:35] <sethk> Tidus, good.
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> mitrovarr,  try running the vncviewer from the shell with some 'verbose' debuging options perhaps. Could be a firewall or similer thing.
[06:35] <Flannel> ardchoille: it's their project, they don't have to stay open source.  Of course, there will be an immediate fork of the last open source version, but still
[06:35] <Tidus> i use webmin instead of swat for most of my samba config
[06:35] <Tidus> and cups as well.
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> mitrovarr,  i always 'vncviewer ip.of.remote.box:#
[06:36] <mitrovarr> Dr_Willis:   Ok, but it's not a network error, because then I'd get 'Connection Refused'.  I get *nothing*.  And Krdc just fails completely (it crashes the computer)
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> Tidus,  i renabled the cups web stuff. :P
[06:36] <debuntu> well i'm sure in this channel i'll get 'reverse elitism' and say i only edit samba config with vi :(
[06:36] <Tidus> Dr_Willis: i dont bother with it lol
[06:36] <mitrovarr> Dr_Willis:  I'll test it when this idiotic laptop decides it wants to boot.  It's trying to unhibernate unsuccessfully... *sigh*
[06:36] <debuntu> man, swat, webmin etc only make samba more confusing
[06:37] <ardchoille> lol
[06:37] <tomasz27> where can i find the hardware reqs for running ubuntu?
[06:37] <cschneid> does anybody have experience working w/ fuse and the ntfs-3g driver?  I have it working, just need to allow users to mount the drive
[06:37] <ardchoille> !hardware
[06:37] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:37] <Tidus> debuntu: the smb.conf when trying to hand-write it confuses me.
[06:37] <mitrovarr> I'm hoping that VNC will let me run a good computer with a not-so-good laptop, thus avoiding having to actually use the 333 mhz processor and 64mb of ram it has.
[06:37] <Flannel> debuntu: nah.  If you're comfortable with vi, more power to you.  We usually recommend nano though, as it's easier than explaining to dozensof people how to use vi ;)
[06:37] <tomasz27> thnx
[06:38] <Tidus> there... samba's up and going again
[06:38] <debuntu> Flannel, yeah wasn't advocating vi (never!), more saying that for most people's samba, the options in smb.conf are very simple
[06:38] <mitrovarr> So, I'm sincerely hoping that VNC is not so processor-heavy.  Anyone know if it is?
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> mitrovarr,  if both are running linux, freenx, is handy.. also that xming is handy tool.
[06:38] <Flannel> mitrovarr: what are  you running on the other end?
[06:39] <mitrovarr> Flannel:  Ubuntu
[06:39] <Flannel> mitrovarr: you might look into remote X terminals then
[06:39] <Tidus> mitrovarr: vnc's not cpu heavy... but bandwidth heavy
[06:39] <Flannel> mitrovarr: X was originally written as client/server afterall
[06:39] <debuntu> mitrovarr, i remember tightvnc was much better on bandwidth
[06:39] <scrappy_> mitrovarr: freenx is just cool i dont care for vnc unless on a lan
[06:39] <mitrovarr> Dr_Willis:  Thanks, I'll check those out.  I was going to look into dumb terminals after this.  It's a lan, bandwidth under USB 1.1 speeds is no problem.
[06:39] <Tidus> mitrovarr: if you're going to use, say laptop to control fast desktop, use freenx
[06:40] <UpMarc> can someone help me woth VLC?
[06:40] <UpMarc> with
[06:40] <mitrovarr> I guess I can help with the parts I've succeeded at
[06:40] <[Ex0r] > anyone here heard of using a modem through usb  ?
[06:40] <UpMarc> i'm new to all this...
[06:40] <Tidus> mitrovarr: it's got speed better than tightvnc and uses a lot less bandwidth
[06:40] <mitrovarr> err, nm, thought you said VLC
[06:40] <scrappy_> UpMarc: i dont use it much but whats the problem?
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> mitrovarr,  a live cd and lerning how to run a X program over ssh - is handy
[06:40] <mitrovarr> VNC I meant
[06:40] <UpMarc> I put a music directory to play...
[06:40] <tomasz27> on a scale from 1 to 10, how hard is it to setup dual-boot with win xp pro for a linux newbie?
[06:40] <mitrovarr> Dr_Willis:  I thought ssh was just console?
[06:40] <UpMarc> inside of the directory there are several html pages...
[06:41] <Tidus> mitrovarr: freenx can run on a 56k line acceptably.  tightvnc cant
[06:41] <jordanau> best way for my roomate and i to share files between my ubuntu box, his windowsxp and mac is samba right?
[06:41] <mitrovarr> tomasz27:  Depending on the hard drive setup, 2-5
[06:41] <Tidus> tomasz27: it's fairly easy
[06:41] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: I'm running irssi in a screen session over ssh right now :) ssh is nice.
[06:41] <scrappy_> tomasz27: if you already have another empty partition ---2
[06:41] <scrappy_> tomasz27: or freespace
[06:41] <Flannel> jordanau: yes
[06:41] <tomasz27> what do u mean?
[06:41] <xeh> upmarc sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:41] <debuntu> Tidus, i will defer to your greater (later) knowledge ... so freenx is the one?
[06:41] <UpMarc> I turned VLC off.... but the musics (from the begining up to the first html page) don't stop playing
[06:41] <mitrovarr> Tidus:  I'm not too worried about bandwidth, they're lanned.
[06:41] <DFM> about a 2
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> UpMarc,  so it 'crashed' :P
[06:41] <UpMarc> do I have to install it again?
[06:42] <tomasz27> 2 being hard
[06:42] <Tidus> mitrovarr: plus, freenx runs through an ssh tunnel
[06:42] <scrappy_> tomasz27: its pretty easy
[06:42] <sethk> mitrovarr, I use XDMCP, which is built into the X protocol.  I get identical performance on the box or from a remote machine.
[06:42] <NickGarvey> what command would I use to rename a bunch of files?  from cfgfile1 to file1 and so on
[06:42] <Tidus> mitrovarr: plus it supports session suspend/resume
[06:42] <Tidus> they finally got that one right.
[06:42] <scrappy_> tomasz27: the only thing is installing ubuntu the dual boot part is handled for you
[06:42] <tomasz27> ok
[06:43] <mitrovarr> sethk:  wow, but that doesn't work with 3d accel and such right?
[06:43] <tomasz27> i got it
[06:43] <debuntu> sethk, exactly ... one wonders why you would do anything else really
[06:43] <debuntu> get your gdm and all
[06:43] <UpMarc> xeh: 0 packages installed... 0 ... and 0...
[06:43] <sethk> debuntu, yes.
[06:43] <UpMarc> and it's still playing
[06:43] <sethk> mitrovarr, I don't know about 3d; I don't see why not, off hand, but I don't do games.
[06:44] <tomasz27> thanks all
[06:44] <DFM> sorry 2 being easy
[06:44] <DFM> got sidetracked
[06:44] <zerokarmaleft> need to burn an iso image with cdrecord but something has exclusive control over /dev/cdrw...how would i find out what has control?
[06:45] <BeepAU> how come, that in open office word, spellcheck doesn't do anything?
[06:45] <zerokarmaleft> is it pmount or something?
[06:45] <crimsun> lsof /dev/cdrw*
[06:45] <UpMarc> and what if the sound program does not belong to vlc package?
[06:45] <zerokarmaleft> crimsun: ah that's it...thx...nothing's using the device node though...hmm
[06:45] <debuntu> BeepAU, maybe your spelling is excellent
[06:46] <UpMarc> and I cannot remove VLC... other programs need parts of it :-(
[06:46] <BeepAU> debuntu -- i've spelt words wrong on purpose and nothings happened.
[06:46] <mitrovarr> ugh... I think the laptop I'm trying to use for the VNC might had died a horrible death.  Thanks for all the help guys, let's hope I can revive it.
[06:46] <UpMarc> I'd like just to stop a process... but don't know which...
[06:46] <debuntu> BeepAU, no dictionary?
[06:46] <debuntu> BeepAU, or the dictionary isn't where openoffice thinks it is?
[06:47] <BeepAU> debuntu -- i've got the dictionary, it hasn't been moved.
[06:47] <debuntu> BeepAU, sorry, dunno :)
[06:48] <bigfuzzyjesus> how many ubuntu users are there
[06:48] <bigfuzzyjesus> ball park
[06:48] <imm2> millions =)
[06:48] <holycow> no one knows BiGcaT
[06:48] <holycow> bigfuzzyjesus, even
[06:48] <BeepAU> does anyone else know what could be the problem? spellcheck on my open office word isn't working.
[06:48] <LazyAngel> bigfuzzyjesus: even bill gates uses ubuntu for his home computer.
[06:48] <compotatoj> in 2015... hopefully most of the market share
[06:48] <compotatoj> LazyAngel, no way
[06:49] <veriquex> quick question: is the english forum down?
[06:49] <LazyAngel> he told me. he was afraid of virus ;)
[06:49] <ardchoille> veriquex: I think it is
[06:49] <veriquex> thanks
[06:49] <PyroManiak> Anyone know why I am unable to run a web server?
[06:49] <stiv2k> where do i find the gnome configuration editor?
[06:49] <Whyvas> BeepAU, open office doesn't have a word
[06:49] <LazyAngel> PyroManiak: firewall? router?
[06:49] <debuntu> PyroManiak, you lack the skills/knowledge
[06:50] <debuntu> PyroManiak, now we have answered that, maybe we can get it working
[06:50] <davidjohnston> where I just installed my distro today, when I use sudo I have to use the pass of my regular account
[06:50] <compotatoj> PyroManiak, do you have the apache2 package installed?
[06:50] <BeepAU> Whyvas -- word processor, then.
[06:50] <ardchoille> stiv2k: open a term and type gconf-editor
[06:50] <davidjohnston> what if I want to create a superuser account and use that password for sudo and keep this account just a regular accoutn
[06:50] <PyroManiak> LazyAngel: If I reboot into windows, I can use the web server fine... I'm using Abyss Web Server...
[06:50] <davidjohnston> is that possible
[06:50] <magice> can anyone help me with nvidia driver issues.... its very critical i get them going
[06:50] <UpMarc> can someone teach me to stop a process?
[06:50] <debuntu> davidjohnston, no the ubuntu way ... do sudo -i
[06:50] <stiv2k> ardchoille: thanks
[06:50] <compotatoj> davidjohnston, sudo passwd or sudo su then passwd
[06:50] <Whyvas> PyroManiak, it couldn't be any easier
[06:50] <LazyAngel> davidjohnston: sudo passwd root
[06:50] <sethk> PyroManiak, that makes no sense ... what do you mean by using the web server?
[06:50] <scrappy_> davidjohnston: all you have to do is create an account that is a member of group admin and remove that membership from current account
[06:51] <ardchoille> davidjohnston: That would be the same thing as you have now with that user
[06:51] <sethk> UpMarc, kill
[06:51] <magice> Can anyone help me with Nvidia driver issues?
[06:51] <davidjohnston> right
[06:51] <LazyAngel> magice: what kind of issue?
[06:51] <magice> well
[06:51] <magice> it hangs on the Nvidia splash screen
[06:51] <UpMarc> sethk: how do I list processes and how do I identify the sound process VLC uses?
[06:51] <Whyvas> magice, what card?
[06:51] <PyroManiak> sethk: I'm running a webserver called abyss.... I've used it for windows machines for a long time, and I'm having problems getting the linux version working..
[06:51] <godtvisken> Anyone know of a good app to use as an alarm clock?
[06:51] <ardchoille> LazyAngel: Please don't tell people how to enable the root account
[06:51] <magice> Nvidia Geforce go 5700 fx
[06:51] <davidjohnston> if I do sudo su passwd then will that just give me a new root password to use instead of the one for this account
[06:51] <sethk> UpMarc, ps lists processes.  ps aux   is a good way to run it.
[06:52] <Whyvas> PyroManiak, use apache.
[06:52] <LazyAngel> magice: search the ubuntuforum for "Howto latest nvidia"
[06:52] <compotatoj> yeah, i don't use the root account
[06:52] <UpMarc> just a moment
[06:52] <PyroManiak> Whyvas: I dont want to..
[06:52] <compotatoj> no need to
[06:52] <sethk> UpMarc, I'm not sure about the sound because I don't know VLC
[06:52] <BeepAU> how come, that in open office word, spellcheck doesn't do anything?
[06:52] <magice> I've done all of it
[06:52] <LazyAngel> ardchoille: sorry. didnt know we should do that :)
[06:52] <ardchoille> davidjohnston: It's not a good idea, and it's not even supported config, to enable the root account.
[06:52] <magice> it installs the latest version and all
[06:52] <Whyvas> PyroManiak, quit being a windows bitch
[06:52] <bigfuzzyjesus> sorry to interrupt but how hard is it to get nvidea cards to work
[06:52] <UpMarc> ok... it listed a lot of things
[06:52] <magice> but it just hangs on the NV splash screen
[06:52] <davidjohnston> yea I understand
[06:52] <compotatoj> wait does Ubuntu come with a root account that just has some random password like ToewOeaZqK
[06:52] <BHSPitMonkey> yes
[06:52] <sethk> PyroManiak, You should be able to identify what is linux specific.  At least hopefully.
[06:52] <UpMarc> sethk: now, how do I recognize the sound process vlc uses?
[06:53] <sethk> PyroManiak, does the web server listen and do browsers connect to it?
[06:53] <BHSPitMonkey> !sudo
[06:53] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:53] <LazyAngel> magice: you should post it in the forum. to hard to figure out here. need logs and stuff
[06:53] <scrappy_> compotatoj: yeah
[06:53] <davidjohnston> i know what sudo is
[06:53] <PyroManiak> Whyvas: Wtf is your problem?
[06:53] <davidjohnston> I just don't like it using the same passwd as my main account
[06:53] <Whyvas> magice, try downloading the drivers directly from nvidia
[06:53] <Gilly> howdy all
[06:53] <compotatoj> scrappy_, so you don't really enable the root account... it is already enabled lol
[06:53] <magice> lazyangel: I've done that but my post gets buried faster then I could refresh it.. no one answers
[06:53] <sethk> UpMarc, UpMarc unless it is trying to connect to a sound server, there really isn't any way to know.  Of course you can read docs.  You can look at the source code if you really need to know exactly what is happening.
[06:53] <Gilly> is there a channel for xubuntu?
[06:53] <Flannel> Gilly: #xubuntu
[06:53] <magice> Whyvas: I've tryed that recently. Same results
[06:53] <ardchoille> magice: You installed the drivers with automatix. /join #automatix and get help there.
[06:53] <scrappy_> compotatoj: basically you can sudo passwd to enable and passwd -l root to change back
[06:53] <debuntu> Gilly, uh yeah
[06:54] <sethk> UpMarc, but in a running box, you can run under strace and look for attempts to connect or open the sound device.
[06:54] <Gilly> thanks, that's what I figured
[06:54] <Gilly> thought I'd ask first
[06:54] <magice> I've tryed a few installations..
[06:54] <magice> all different ways
[06:54] <Gilly> goodnight all...or morning to some I suppose
[06:54] <tamale> !language
[06:54] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:54] <Whyvas> PyroManiak, apache is the linux web server and it'll work.
[06:54] <argument> does ubuntu have NTFS write support?
[06:54] <sethk> magice, is the nvidia kernel module loaded?
[06:54] <Flannel> argument: no, not yet
[06:54] <argument> damn
[06:54] <UpMarc> sethk: I'm yet to new to all this.... I think the fastes, at this moment, will be restart Ubuntu :-(
[06:55] <sethk> UpMarc, worth a try.
[06:55] <Flannel> argument: write support on linux isn't stable yet.  There are unstable ones... !fuse for details
[06:55] <magice> sethk: not exactly sure what you mean by that.. very new at this
[06:55] <argument> !fuse
[06:55] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:55] <LazyAngel> i need to reinstall windows on my dual boot. I know its going to break ubuntu. But how much? Can i start from a livecd and setup grub again?
[06:55] <argument> Flannel, i know i can compile it in manually
[06:55] <UpMarc> sethk: I have just 1 week of this.... must get some more knowledge to do more sofisticated things...
[06:55] <sethk> magice, when you install the nvidia drivers, you also build and install a kernel module.  It needs to be loaded to use nvidia.  so, do lsmod, and look for a line with nvidia in the output
[06:56] <Flannel> LazyAngel: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:56] <scrappy_> LazyAngel: what partition is ubuntu on?
[06:56] <UpMarc> sethk: ty, anyway
[06:56] <LazyAngel> Flannel: thanks
[06:56] <magice> sethk: it's not there.. but I was forced to reinstall ubuntu a few times so it probably was at that time
[06:57] <compotatoj> Where is a good place to get good news about Ubuntu, like what is going on in the development of edgy or something?
[06:57] <LazyAngel> scrappy_: ubuntu is on a separate disk. /boot is on /hda1 (And thats where the boot flag is) Windows will go on /hda2
[06:57] <Flannel> compotatoj: the fridge
[06:57] <sethk> magice, try   modprobe nvidia
[06:57] <sethk> magice, if nvidia can't be found, you'll have to reinstall
[06:57] <magice> It doesn't say anything
[06:58] <magice> just goes down to next line
[06:58] <scrappy_> LazyAngel: you sound like you know what youre doing :) nm
[06:58] <sethk> magice, that probably means it worked.  do lsmod and look for a line with nvidia
[06:58] <passenger> magice, check if it's loaded by : lsmod|grep nvidia
[06:58] <crash__> how do install limewire or is there a good p2p out there
[06:58] <warlock\wrk> tar -zxvf file.tar.gz to extract, uh?
[06:58] <compotatoj> Has anyone used the Ubuntu backup system? I tried to backup my home drive but all it wants to backup is like etc and usr/local
[06:59] <passenger> compotatoj, yeah I use it
[06:59] <argument> crash__, gtk-gnutella is in synaptic
[06:59] <magice> sethj: i get 3 lines returned, one titled nvidia
[06:59] <compotatoj> passenger, was there anything you had to do to backup your home drive
[06:59] <teb> i have a folder and the owner is a user on my os x system and for some reason this folder (on my firewire drive) is set with only the owner being able to read/write/execute is there any way to prove to that folder that I am the owner?
[06:59] <compotatoj> passenger, besides adding the folder
[06:59] <crash__> k thanks
[06:59] <due> teb: chown?
[06:59] <magice> sethk: so it is there.
[06:59] <warlock\wrk> anyone know how to extract .tar.gz file? tar -zxvf file.tar.gz ? (takes looong time)
[07:00] <teb> due thnx i'll try that
[07:00] <argument> can the partitioner in ubuntu resize partitions without deleting information?
[07:00] <due> teb: You could chown the folder to you, I mean.
[07:00] <passenger> compotatoj, i installed sbackup. after you will find a good backup interface in System>Admin
[07:00] <Flannel> argument: what sort of partitions?
[07:00] <argument> Flannel, windows partitions
[07:00] <passenger> warlock\wrk, tar -zxf
[07:00] <Flannel> argument: you should defrag them first, but usually.
[07:00] <warlock\wrk> what does -zxvf do then passenger ?
[07:00] <compotatoj> passenger, is that different from simple backup config
[07:00] <argument> it's been recently defragged
[07:00] <LazyAngel> how do i know if i installed grub to the root partition or to the MBR?
[07:00] <sethk> warlock\wrk, should be zxvf, not -zxvf.  the dash is tolerated but wrong
[07:01] <warlock\wrk> doesnt amtter really does it ?
[07:01] <sethk> warlock\wrk, that says x extract v verbose f from file  z uncompress with gzip
[07:01] <magice> sethk: I got it in lsmod.. now what?
[07:01] <passenger> compotatoj, don't know it's pretty simple to use for automated backups so just try it
[07:01] <LazyAngel> warlock\wrk: use tar --help to see what it means
[07:01] <sethk> warlock\wrk, it's wrong.  you should get in the habit of doing it correctly
[07:01] <warlock\wrk> k
[07:01] <sethk> magice, try starting X again
[07:01] <argument> warlock\wrk, man tar
[07:02] <magice> sethk, I didn't change anything though.. it will just lock up on the nvidia splash screen
[07:02] <argument> warlock\wrk, GNU tar and FreeBSD tar are, for example, slightly different
[07:02] <toxicfume> I need help: I have a perfectly working installation of ubuntu, but now I want to move this installation from this partition to a different, bigger partition, how can i do that? And how can i make sure the bootmanager doesn't mess up? Please help, thanks!
[07:02] <sethk> magice, ok, if you say so.
[07:02] <teb> due: it says read only file system
[07:02] <mikeg> hi everyone
[07:02] <LazyAngel> Flannel: how do i know if i installed grub to the root partition or to the MBR?
[07:02] <mikeg> sethk:  hi sethk.
[07:02] <sethk> mikeg, hello
[07:02] <due> teb: Hm. Did you check that there isn't a "read only" button the drive? (I'm assuming this is like a firewire/usb drive of some description)
[07:02] <mikeg> sethk:  i still dont  know how to install my ubuntu to my box
[07:02] <magice> sethk, do you know what is causing it to do a complete lockdown on the splash screen?
[07:02] <robert_> is there a ubuntu package for xine's extra codecs?
[07:02] <warlock\wrk> ln -s /home/cs/cstrike/ /var/www/ <- does that look correct?
[07:03] <mikeg> sethk:  my sata drive cant be recognize
[07:03] <compotatoj> passenger, haha.. i already had that installed. i think that is what i was using... oh well I will try a different one
[07:03] <teb> due: It's a HD in a box with a firewire cable basically
[07:03] <sethk> mikeg, what's your mobo and sata chipset?
[07:03] <argument> mikeg, last i checked you can't boot from SATA
[07:03] <teb> maybe i should chown lower down?
[07:03] <LazyAngel> warlock\wrk: it depends what you are trying to do
[07:03] <mikeg> its VT8251
[07:04] <magice> sethk: so do you have an idea what is causing the lockup? because it doesn't do this on my other computers.
[07:04] <compotatoj> teb, try sudo chown -R teb:teb /media/HARDDRIVE (replace the mountpoint with your own)
[07:04] <scrappy_> toxicfume: maybe you could dd if /dev/hda1 of=/dev/hda2     where hda1 is the small and hda2 the big  prob not that easy though :)
[07:04] <warlock\wrk> symbolic link, so /var/www/cstrike is linked to /home/cs/blabla
[07:04] <scrappy_> toxicfume: if= i mean
[07:04] <mikeg> argument: i could boot  from live Cd, but my prob is my sata cant be detected.. it says no hardware found
[07:04] <sethk> magice, did you try running X after doing the modprobe?
[07:04] <argument> compotatoj, that's um, a bad idea?
[07:04] <LazyAngel> robert_:  search the wiki for "restrictedformats"
[07:04] <imm2> is your drive listing in the bios?
[07:04] <compotatoj> argument, ok why
[07:04] <toxicfume> scrappy_: why do you say it prob not that easy?
[07:04] <sethk> mikeg, what's the chipset and what is the mobo?  I'm asking because of a problem someone else had recently.
[07:05] <magice> sethk, doing that now. I'll be back in a bit if it locks up
[07:05] <argument> compotatoj, if you have to ask why you don't need to know... it's a bad idea
[07:05] <compotatoj> argument, oh yeah you are right, i guess maybe he should just mount it asuser
[07:05] <teb> compotatoj: keeps saying read only file system for every file...Ooo can ubuntu not write to HFS+?
[07:05] <sethk> magice, ok
[07:05] <scrappy_> toxicfume: im just a naturally dour person ;( if the new partition is blank it cant hurt anything to try just takes a little time
[07:05] <argument> mikeg, dunno about that then, do you have an SATA hard drive only?
[07:05] <warlock\wrk> LazyAngel, whats the correct line to make a symbolic link? :)
[07:05] <compotatoj> teb, is this a partition with data or your actually mac os system
[07:05] <mikeg> sethk: wat is mobo by the way. sory had no idea
[07:06] <argument> teb, HFS and HFS+ are considered experimental last i checked
[07:06] <sethk> mikeg, short for motherboard
[07:06] <teb> compotatoj: this is a partition with data that i used as a backup
[07:06] <mikeg> argument: i have a new set pc. amd64
[07:06] <LazyAngel> warlock\wrk: it was correct then
[07:06] <compotatoj> teb, oooh! install this package: hfsplus hfsutils
[07:06] <mikeg> sethk:  its ASUS board
[07:06] <argument> mikeg, a what pc?
[07:06] <sethk> mikeg, do you have options for the SATA such as PATA + SATA, SATA Only, etc?
[07:06] <compotatoj> argument, sorry i was being stupid i know better :P
[07:07] <sethk> mikeg, this would be in BIOS setup
[07:07] <argument> compotatoj, meh it's only a crime when you spread it ;)
[07:07] <compotatoj> teb, you won't need to chown
[07:07] <compotatoj> teb, i have mounted an hfs hard drive, i'll show you what i put in my fstab
[07:07] <teb> compotatoj: already got them apparently
[07:07] <robert_> ta, LazyAngel
[07:07] <teb> compotatoj: the drive is mounted and i can see some of the dir structure
[07:07] <mikeg> sethk: in bios, chipset settings, i could only choose SATA, RAID, AHIC i think
[07:07] <LazyAngel> robert_:  np
[07:07] <ronnie_> scrappy_: why do you say it prob not that easy?
[07:08] <passenger> anybody running xgl on amd64 here ?
[07:08] <sethk> mikeg, and which did you choose?
[07:08] <compotatoj> teb, yeah its not rw
[07:08] <scrappy_> toxicfume: bear in mind it will mess up a few things like fstab youll have to redo fstab entry for old partition
[07:08] <mikeg> sethk: sata
[07:08] <argument> $stupidity = new Stupidity(); $stupidity->propagate($stupidity);
[07:08] <scrappy_> ronnie_: ^ stuff like that
[07:08] <LazyAngel> passenger: #xgl-ubuntu
[07:08] <robert_> argument: true
[07:08] <passenger> LazyAngel, thx
[07:09] <ronnie_> scrappy_: ahh okay. Well is there any other way in that case?
[07:09] <compotatoj> teb, try /dev/hda# /mnt/macosx hfsplus user,noauto,rw 0 0
[07:09] <mikeg> sethk:  my mobo is asus A8V - MX - UAYKZ
[07:09] <compotatoj> teb, i'm not sure about the noauto lemme look it up
[07:09] <warlock\wrk> LazyAngel, not working
[07:10] <compotatoj> teb, you know how to edit the /etc/fstab right?
[07:10] <scrappy_> ronnie_: i normally just tar my home directory and reinstall but i do backups all the time using dd its just that your parition number will change that was a concern
[07:10] <sethk> mikeg, someone had a problem with an asus board, although a different one, that was solved by changing the option from sata to pata+sata.
[07:10] <LazyAngel> whats the error message?
[07:10] <wasauce> what command can i run to determine the user groups on a linux box? This is command line only...
[07:10] <sethk> mikeg, but I don't think any of the other settings you listed make much sense
[07:10] <teb> compotatoj: ok
[07:10] <mikeg> sethk: ah okay.  i have explored already the bios settings
[07:10] <teb> compotatoj: yes
[07:10] <stiv2k> is there a package with gnome/gtk themes and stuff?
[07:10] <compotatoj> teb,  here let me test it on my computer first lol
[07:10] <mikeg> sethk: what did he do? is it changing SATA to PATA?
[07:11] <teb> compotatoj: lol thanks
[07:11] <sethk> mikeg, no, he had a setting that was I think  SATA & PATA, or SATA + PATA, something of that sort
[07:11] <compotatoj> teb, do you have a couple minutes? i have to load the livecd onto my hackintosh
[07:11] <mikeg> sethk, ah aoky
[07:11] <mikeg> okay
[07:11] <sethk> mikeg, you can try the other settings, see if it makes any difference.
[07:12] <sethk> mikeg, I'm not promising anything, though  :)
[07:12] <mikeg> sethk: ok i'll try.
[07:12] <teb> compotatoj: sure do
[07:12] <CDG52> does anyone know where the menus config is found or how to remove add/remove from the menu
[07:12] <compotatoj> teb, are you sure it is hfsplus and not hfs
[07:13] <teb> compotatoj: no
[07:13] <LazyAngel> wasauce: cat /etc/group
[07:13] <EpP-PocketPC> ey
[07:13] <mikeg> sethk:  once i have boot already in live Cd, im n the destkop, id go to Gnome partition,, and hope this time, my sata drive would be detected
[07:13] <rende> hi, is there a command or something to rebuild the menu bar in gnome after I have installed some new packages?
[07:13] <compotatoj> teb, type mount
[07:13] <magice> sethk: It locked up on the splashscreen again.
[07:13] <sethk> magice, what ends up in the X log?
[07:13] <teb> compotatoj: yes, hfsplus
[07:13] <wasauce> LazyAngel: thanks... i just realized it after i asked but thank you for confirming the location
[07:13] <magice> sethk: Where is the xlog located?
[07:13] <robert_> blah, apt can't/won't find the restricted/multiverse/universe stuff
[07:14] <sethk> /var/log/X*
[07:14] <CDG52> does anyone know how to remove add/remove from the menu???
[07:14] <rende> I installed some packages with apt-get but they are not showing up under the Applications menu in Gnome, is there some command to run that will do that automatically or must I do it somethow?
[07:14] <sethk> magice, I forget the exact name, so log for a file in /var/log starting with X
[07:14] <rende> CDG52: I think we are trying to do the same thing
[07:14] <compotatoj> teb, tell me the hard drive partition like /dev and your mountpoint so i can tell you what to add to the fstab
[07:14] <CDG52> rende if you get a answer please tell
[07:14] <croak77> rende: try restrting gnome or alacarte menu editor
[07:14] <EpP-PocketPC> what brand of laptop works with ubuntu very well?
[07:14] <LazyAngel> robert_: it should be a link in the restrictedformats on how to enable them in /etc/apt/source.list
[07:15] <teb> compotatoj: /dev/hda6
[07:15] <robert_> thanks
[07:15] <LazyAngel> robert_: then you need to do "sudo apt-get update"
[07:15] <croak77> CDG52: alacarte
[07:15] <rende> croak77: ok thnx
[07:15] <warlock\wrk> libstdc++.so.5 <- how to install this package?
[07:15] <magice> sethk it just complains it cant find my touchpad even though it works
[07:15] <tich> can anyone help me set up beagle? anytime i search for something is comes back "no results were found"
[07:15] <teb> compotatoj: /dev/sda6
[07:16] <LazyAngel> warlock\wrk: by the name, im guessing its a part of gcc
[07:16] <magice> (--) Synaptics Touchpad touchpad found
[07:16] <magice> ProcXCloseDevice to close or not ?
[07:16] <magice>  it reads.
[07:16] <croak77> warlock\wrk: sudo aptitude install libstdc++5
[07:16] <CDG52> alacarte wont alow you to remove add/remove from ur menu
[07:16] <sethk> magice, you said it complains?
[07:16] <NickGarvey> tich: you probably need to build an index first (which I of course have no idea how to do)
[07:16] <magice> sethk, i just pasted in the lines at the end a little bit above
[07:16] <warlock\wrk> thx man, found it
[07:16] <warlock\wrk> :)
[07:17] <tich> NickGarvey, well i guess that is a start  :)
[07:17] <croak77> CDG52: there are check box's next to all entries..uncheck to remove
[07:17] <bayzider> what are some good packages i should install
[07:17] <magice> sethk, anything else you want to see from my log?
[07:17] <sethk> magice, can you post the log on the paste bot?
[07:18] <cindy_b> i installed it right but now it says "kernel headers do not mach"
[07:18] <cindy_b> match
[07:18] <magice> yes i can
[07:18] <Bonez56> hi, can anyone pls tell me why i keep getting debconf errors when i use apt-get?
[07:18] <CDG52> ah thank you, also is there any way to make a main menu like how htere is a System?
[07:19] <magice> sethk: sorry i've never done this what do I put in the send box
[07:19] <compotatoj> Bonez56, close synaptic
[07:19] <Bonez56> compotatoj: synaptic is not open
[07:19] <croak77> CDG52: i don't know...i don't use gnome. you might have to make a menu manually
[07:20] <CDG52> do you know how to make a menu manually?
[07:20] <CDG52> thats sorta my question
[07:20] <compotatoj> Bonez56, i bet it is... try killing it
[07:20] <compotatoj> Bonez56, whats the error
[07:20] <Bonez56> compotatoj: i've had this problem for ages, after multiple reboots
[07:20] <sethk> magice, you just copy the text into the box, then do send, or submit, or whatever the button says.  it gives you a url
[07:20] <Bonez56> compotatoj: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20530
[07:20] <magice> I see
[07:20] <magice> sethk, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20531
[07:21] <croak77> CDG52: nope...poke around alacarte
[07:21] <compotatoj> teb, almost done
[07:21] <magice> sethk, note i have to switch nvidia to nv to boot, that is why it is there
[07:21] <teb> compotatoj: thanks a lot!
[07:21] <cindy_b> i didn't have it plugged in
[07:21] <CDG52> does anyone know how to remove Places in the menu?
[07:22] <CDG52> or add in Logout instead of quit
[07:22] <sethk> magice, wait, I don't know what you mean by "to boot".   are you restarting the machine?  If so you've lost the result of the modprobe
[07:22] <Bonez56> compotatoj: i fixed it with sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf then i chose "dialog"
[07:22] <UpMarc> Hello, can someone tach me how to delete a file when this option is disabled in rightclicking?
[07:22] <compotatoj> Bonez56, ok cool lol
[07:23] <UpMarc> teach
[07:23] <magice> sethk, no I am ctrl+alt+backspacing
[07:23] <compotatoj> UpMarc, you might have to be root
[07:23] <sethk> magice, ok, so you don't mean boot.
[07:23] <LazyAngel> UpMarc: rm -i filename
[07:24] <Goblyn> ok, i have flash installed on Ubuntu, but when i view anything flash in firefox, it plays the video, but no sound, does anyone know why this could be?
[07:24] <cindy_b> try shift + alt + y
[07:24] <compotatoj> LazyAngel, is that deleting it as root
[07:24] <sethk> magice, just to be sure, repeat the  lsmod | grep nvidia
[07:24] <sethk> magice, make sure it is still there.
[07:24] <LazyAngel> UpMarc: sudo rm -i filename
[07:24] <encasadely> hola
[07:24] <encasadely> soy punkmexic
[07:24] <encasadely> alguien despierto?=
[07:24] <CDG52> does anyone know how to add logout to the main menu or change the quit to logout?
[07:24] <magice> sethk, it is there.
[07:24] <compotatoj> teb, YEY! I DID IT!
[07:25] <teb> compotatoj: yay!
[07:25] <compotatoj> teb, add this: /dev/sda6	/mnt/sda6	hfsplus	user,rw,exec,auto	0	0
[07:26] <sethk> magice, it isn't finding the glx support
[07:26] <compotatoj> teb, after you did, type sudo mount -a
[07:26] <sethk> magice, did you install this the same way you did on the boxes that are working correctly?
[07:26] <Bonez56> compotatoj: thanks for yoru help anyway :D
[07:26] <croak77> magice: you have the NV driver selected not NVIDIA
[07:26] <compotatoj> Bonez56, no problem
[07:26] <magice> sethk: yes
[07:27] <magice> croak77: it is selected to get back into X or else it would just hang on the nvidia splash screen
[07:27] <teb> compotatoj: when i type mount i says /dev/sda6 on /media/LaCie Disk type hfsplus (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000)
[07:27] <sethk> magice, it can't be the touchpad, because it wouldn't run with nv either
[07:27] <teb> compotatoj: i put what you said in /etc/fstab there wasn't a previous entry
[07:27] <sethk> magice, you can ignore that line
[07:27] <teb> compotatoj: oh i'm being stupid hld please lol
[07:28] <sethk> magice, I would suggest reconfiguring and telling it not to use frame buffer
[07:28] <compotatoj> teb, ok
[07:28] <CDG52> does anyone know how to add logout to the main menu or change the quit to logout?
[07:28] <magice> sethk, what do you mean by reconfiguring.. you mean reinstalling all of it?
[07:28] <LazyAngel> CDG52: since that is the third time you ask, i guess no :) try googling for it
[07:29] <sethk> no, just do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:29] <CDG52> :( boo ive tryed and searching ubuntuforums.org
[07:29] <compotatoj> Does anyone know of a good backup utility other than sbackup
[07:29] <scrappy_> CDG52: theres a file somewhere you need to edit if that helps ;-p
[07:30] <CDG52> scrappy: haha figured that much ;-) now what file >_< it apears this menu thing is a big secret
[07:30] <LazyAngel> CDG52: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.0/menuediting.html
[07:30] <teb> compotatoj: it says that /mnt/sda6 does not exist
[07:30] <teb> compotatoj: mount: mount point /mnt/sda6 does not exist
[07:30] <omfg> is the forums down ??
[07:31] <compotatoj> teb, i forgot two things, you could do sudo mkdir /mnt/sda6 but you said you wanted to write to it so either put it in your home drive or media or something
[07:31] <compotatoj> teb, just make a folder and specify it instead of /mnt/sda6
[07:31] <LazyAngel> omfg: i think so
[07:31] <Flannel> omfg: #ubuntuforums is technically the channel, but appears so
[07:32] <cindy_b> hi
[07:32] <omfg> ty
[07:33] <trygg> Heh, a kinda different question but i dont know where to look, i want a picture of a womans chest at high resolution (1280x1024), anyone know where it can be found?
[07:34] <cindy_b> hi dbo
[07:34] <DBO> hi cindy_b
[07:34] <scrappy_> i dont think these hard ciders are really that alcoholic..
[07:34] <scrappy_> ach wrong chan sry
[07:34] <cry0gen> the forums down?
[07:35] <cindy_b> dob did you install the new dapper correctly
[07:35] <DBO> cry0gen, yes... the place for that question though is #ubuntu-forums
[07:35] <DBO> ernm
[07:35] <DBO> #ubuntuforums
[07:35] <Delano> 'lo
[07:35] <Delano> I didn't expect anyone to be here at this time
[07:35] <cindy_b> dbo i just wanted to know if it was hard
[07:35] <Goblyn> can anyone tell me why Automatix is bad
[07:36] <mormoloc> im trying to install qt development library... how?
[07:36] <DBO> cindy_b, its a peice of cake =)
[07:36] <compotatoj> teb, did you figure it out?
[07:36] <cindy_b> cake really thanks
[07:36] <LazyAngel> Delano: "this time" depends on where you live in the world. Ubuntu have millions of users
[07:36] <magice> sethk: what was the reconfig command again? when i selected autodetect monitor it locked up my system and distorted the screen
[07:36] <cindy_b> airzer0
[07:36] <cindy_b> airzer0
[07:36] <cindy_b> airzer0
[07:36] <cindy_b> airzer0
[07:36] <cindy_b> airzer0
[07:36] <cindy_b> airzer0
[07:36] <LoRez> Warning: `cindy_b' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[07:36] <cindy_b> airzer0
[07:36] <cindy_b> airzer0
[07:36] <Delano> LazyAngel, clearly
[07:36] <compotatoj> Goblyn, well maybe because you don't learn how to install it yourself but other than that it is good
[07:36] <Delano> LazyAngel, I heard an American once recommend it
[07:37] <sethk> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:37] <teb> compotatoj: i think the chown is working
[07:37] <sethk> magice    dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:37] <sethk> magice, that's interesting that it failed that way.
[07:37] <noiesmo> I'm doing an upgrade from dapper to edgy and openoffice is giving me hassles and I am unable to use apt-get -f install as it ends with a broken pipe error how can i force remove of openoffice to reinstall later
[07:37] <sethk> magice, do the other (working) boxes use the same monitor (any of them)?
[07:37] <LazyAngel> wow... gentoo has gone by ubuntu on most users in chat room :)
[07:37] <magice> this is a slaptop
[07:37] <compotatoj> teb, lol that isn't good
[07:38] <compotatoj> teb, you shouldn't chown your mac drive
[07:38] <Delano> I got a question
[07:38] <sethk> magice, the others aren't the same laptop, then?
[07:38] <magice> No other laptops.
[07:38] <Delano> How do you mount an NTFS partition in Ubuntu?
[07:38] <Goblyn> compotatoj: well, i HAVE installed it myself, but i'm just saying, theres these huge anti-Automatix people, i was just wondering why
[07:38] <dboBlows> hi
[07:38] <sethk> magice, ok, that is probably relevant - and also it's the only difference among the boxes.
[07:38] <sethk> Delano, mount -t ntfs
[07:39] <sethk> Delano, see   man mount
[07:39] <dboBlows> did it come unplugged
[07:39] <NickGarvey> Delano: "fdisk -l | grep -i ntfs" will show you the ntfs partition
[07:39] <teb> compotatoj: nevermind it didn't work on those files
[07:39] <ppcguy> hey all, in a pickle here.. Managed to fubar my install and I'm on my dapper live disk right now.. There are some files on my hd I need to get off before I pave and reinstall
[07:39] <ppcguy> I can see my hd, but can't access it.. I'm at a loss here
[07:39] <Delano> Thanks
[07:39] <NickGarvey> Delano: then mount it with mount /dev/SOMETHING /SOMEWHERE
[07:40] <compotatoj> teb, ok good
[07:40] <compotatoj> so wait
[07:40] <teb> compotatoj: np
[07:40] <compotatoj> teb, did you get to mount it in a folder in your home drive
[07:41] <teb> compotatoj: yeah
[07:41] <compotatoj> Goblyn, there are? i didn't know that lol.. maybe it is because the packages should work straight from the repository
[07:41] <dboBlows> i need a cake
[07:41] <dboBlows> bake a cake
[07:41] <compotatoj> teb, and what happens if you try creating a folder on it
[07:41] <noiesmo> is there a way I can forcefully remove all open office packages from system
[07:41] <compotatoj> teb, tell me what the mount says again
[07:42] <dboBlows> ok but you know what will happen
[07:42] <Flannel> Goblyn: Automatix makes systems broken beyond repair
[07:42] <LazyAngel> dboBlows: sudo apt-get Install fortunes (for fortune cookies. they taste much better than cake)
[07:43] <compotatoj> Flannel, how?
[07:43] <Flannel> compotatoj: lots of ways.  By people using it, and some error happens, and it leaves the entire OS in limbo
[07:43] <teb> compotatoj: LaCie$ mkdir test      mkdir: cannot create directory `test': Read-only file system
[07:44] <dboBlows> sudp apt-get install fortunes = not a fuck'n cake
[07:44] <teb> compotatoj: tell you what /etc/fstab looks like?
[07:44] <Flannel> !language
[07:44] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:44] <eyequeue> !language
[07:44] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:44] <eyequeue> oops
[07:44] <trygg> !snack
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:45] <trygg> :(
[07:45] <LazyAngel> A sine curve goes off to infinity, or at least the end of the blackboard. -- Prof. Steiner
[07:45] <compotatoj> teb, sudo umount /dev/sda6 then sudo mount -a then tell me what mount says about /dev/sda6
[07:46] <dboBlows> lol
[07:46] <mormoloc> can Berkeley DB be installed on ubuntu, of so how (not in the repository :( )?
[07:46] <teb> compotatoj: returns nothing, just mounts the drive
[07:46] <Phuzion> Hey, is there any way I can save some files from the repositories to a USB disk, then bring it to a different machine to install?
[07:46] <eyequeue> Phuzion, using wget?
[07:46] <Megaqwerty> Can anyone tell me the best GUI C++ compiler for ubuntu?
[07:46] <Flannel> !gcc
[07:46] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:47] <Flannel> oh, GUI?  Eh, it'll use GCC, just be a frontend, whatever you choose
[07:47] <compotatoj> teb, no type mount
[07:47] <Phuzion> eyequeue:  I am on a Windows machine right now
[07:47] <teb> compotatoj: /dev/sda6 on /home/tebriel/LaCie type hfsplus (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[07:47] <greyballoon> hi everyone.  After a recent update and reboot, My ethernet connection isn't automatically started.  When I try to 'sudo ifup eth0" I get an SIOCSIFADDR: No such device.
[07:48] <Flannel> Phuzion: yeah, you can download them from packages.ubuntu.com then sneakernet them
[07:48] <greyballoon> does anyone know how to fix this?
[07:48] <Phuzion> greyballoon:  what does ifconfig return?
[07:48] <Megaqwerty> what is a frontend?
[07:48] <Goblyn> Flannel: how?
[07:48] <farous> greyballoon: i had similar prob. turned out that the resolv.conf was over written
[07:48] <greyballoon> phuzion: just the lo device
[07:48] <Flannel> Goblyn: how what?
[07:48] <farous> you need to respecify your nameserver
[07:49] <greyballoon> farous: how do I fix that?
[07:49] <eyequeue> Phuzion, okay, well, whatever file-fetch program you have there, then cp the files to /var/cache/apt/archives/ on your ubuntu machine, then run "sudo apt-get install whatever" and the fetch will be pre-done for you :)
[07:49] <farous> greyballoon: from gui open the network admin
[07:49] <Megaqwerty> Flannel: what is a frontend?
[07:49] <Goblyn> Flannel: how does it break systems?
[07:49] <fignuts> frontend = GUI
[07:49] <eyequeue> Phuzion, write that directory on scrap paper :)
[07:49] <Flannel> Megaqwerty: it'll be the GUI thing, the GUI won't actually compile the source, it'll have GCC do it.
[07:49] <farous> greyballoon: and plugin your default dns server
[07:49] <LazyAngel> Megaqwerty: the GUI part. The compilation is done in the same way as from command line
[07:50] <farous> greyballoon: if you use a router put the router address in it
[07:50] <Phuzion> eyequeue:  thanks
[07:50] <Flannel> Goblyn: it breaks them in all sorts of ways, which is why #ubuntu will not support it.  Because it refuses to follow best-practices and is super difficult to fix the problems
[07:50] <Megaqwerty> ok, but does anyone suggest any good "frontend"s
[07:50] <Flannel> Goblyn: so, if you want to use automatix, you're on your own.  Well, except #automatix
[07:50] <greyballoon> farous: where is the resolve conf located, I'll have to do it from the cli.  I have a minimal server installation
[07:51] <Goblyn> Flannel: ah, i see, i have been using it for quite a while and never had a problem, so i didn't know
[07:51] <farous> greyballoon: /etc/resolv.conf
[07:51] <eyequeue> greyballoon, /etc/resolv.conf .... not resolve
[07:51] <Flannel> Goblyn: yeah, it's completely hit and miss, but when it misses...
[07:51] <ct8ball> unable to mount the selected volume error: device /dev/hda1 is not removable error: could not execute pmount... so now what?
[07:52] <Goblyn> Flannel: lol, it takes me about 10 minutes to re-install... i'll survive, heh
[07:52] <LazyAngel> Megaqwerty: if im not wrong eclipse does gcc/c++
[07:52] <LazyAngel> Megaqwerty: or you can try one from www.borland.com
[07:53] <fignuts> eclipse is.. or at one point was the premier GUI compiler
[07:53] <Megaqwerty> LazyAngel: thanks
[07:53] <greyballoon> farous: I changed that, do I need to reboot, because it still isn't working
[07:53] <magice> sethk, after running the reconfig my monitor is stuck at 640x480....
[07:53] <magice> sethk, and the splash screen still hangs
[07:53] <farous> greyballoon: to avoid it being overwritten again i put that in the def of the interface in the /etc/network/interfaces file dns-nameservers <address here>
[07:53] <Goblyn> how can i set gdesklettes to start at startup?
[07:54] <ct8ball> big hard drive problem... I cannot mount any of them.... unable to do pmount? anyone have any ideas?
[07:54] <sethk> it only gave you the choice of 640x480?
[07:54] <LazyAngel> Megaqwerty: hmm... it seems like the one from borland is for windoes only
[07:54] <magice> well my config says 1280x800 like i told it to
[07:54] <Megaqwerty> ah, darn
[07:54] <magice> but it is forcing me at 640x480
[07:55] <Megaqwerty> LazyAngel: is there a channel for eclipse? I'm having some problems getting it to start.
[07:55] <Megaqwerty> or better yet, can you try to help me?
[07:55] <DShepherd> DBO: ping
[07:55] <magice> sethk: any idea what is going on with this
[07:55] <sethk> magice, that would go away once we get the thing to run.  In the meantime if it is annoying, change nvidia to nv, and rerun the reconfigure
[07:55] <farous> LazyAngel: eclipse running fine here with sun java
[07:55] <DShepherd> is edgy vanilla or quinn?
[07:55] <sethk> magice, no, not yet.
[07:56] <DBO> DShepherd, pong
[07:56] <fignuts> mmm vanilla.. i want ice cream
[07:56] <EpP> is having an ATI or NVIDIA alot better that having a GMA 950 in unbuntu?
[07:56] <sethk> magice, the thing to do is a compare of the X log to the X log from the machines where you don't see the problem when using driver nvidia
[07:56] <ct8ball> could anyone spare a few minutes to help me out with a hard drive problem?
[07:56] <magice> sethk: It wont load up in nvidia.. just hangs at the splash screen....
[07:56] <Megaqwerty> Would you like me to pastebin the error i'm getting?
[07:56] <LazyAngel> Megaqwerty: i have to leave now.
[07:56] <magice> sethk: I am in nv right nowo
[07:56] <DShepherd> DBO: is edgy vanilla or quinn?
[07:56] <sethk> magice, yes, I know, that's the problem.
[07:56] <DBO> DShepherd, afaik its undecided, I think ajmitch is leaning toward vanilla
[07:56] <Megaqwerty> oh, ok
[07:56] <Megaqwerty> anyone else?
[07:56] <DShepherd> DBO: ok.. hmm.. i havent tried vanilla since ages
[07:56] <sethk> magice, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again.  see if it does the right thing with the resolution.  first, though...
[07:57] <ex-parrot> can anyone tell me at what step of the ubuntu server installation is /target/etc/fstab built, and by what method?
[07:57] <DBO> DShepherd, its a lot like it was ages ago =P
[07:57] <sethk> magice, try   control-alt-plus to cycle through defined resolutions.
[07:57] <DShepherd> DBO: vanilla is supposed to be faster right?
[07:57] <DBO> yes
[07:57] <magneticubuntu> guys - how can I get Video Out on My Radeon 9200se with Ubuntu please?
[07:57] <magice> sethk: The ONLY selection is the one i stated.
[07:57] <Megaqwerty> nm I found the channel, Thanks all :)
[07:57] <magice> sethk: but in my xorg file it says 1280x800
[07:57] <greyballoon> farous: the device is still not found :(
[07:57] <DShepherd> DBO: hmmm I may go try it. the new cgwd stuff should work with vanilla compiz right?
[07:57] <sethk> magice, yes but it will run differently with the driver set to nv
[07:57] <farous> greyballoon: the device ?
[07:58] <ct8ball> and my harddrives(yes all of them...) will not mount
[07:58] <magice> sethk: I am on nv right now
[07:58] <magice> sethk: if i used nvidia i wouldnt be here..
[07:58] <teb> compotatoj: so it's still not mounted as read write?
[07:58] <farous> is it that you can not connect to the net or did you loose your network device
[07:58] <DShepherd> DBO: I am running the latest compiz now.. trying to get a taste of what I have been missing... switcher, and rotating the cube.. and Unfold is still slow..
[07:59] <greyballoon> farous: sorry, another error says: eth0: ERROR while getting interfaces flags: No such device.
[07:59] <lhds> i have downloaded and made deb packs for ati ver 8.24.8 i have made a previous install of drivers vers 8.27 but i uninstalled with synaptic. but when i sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx it asks me to install the 8.27 vers ... how to remove them completely?
[07:59] <greyballoon> farous: I think I must have lost the device
[07:59] <farous> greyballoon: ifconfig
[07:59] <sethk> magice, I know.  the point was, you were going to run dpkg-reconfigure with the driver set to nvidia
[07:59] <greyballoon> farous: it only shows the local loopback
[07:59] <sethk> magice, not set to nv
[08:00] <noiesmo> in my frustration to overcome an error with an overwrite issues with a package I created a dpkg-divert now I cannot remove it little help please
[08:00] <magice> sethk: I DID run it in nvidia at first, but it just hung on the splash screen.
[08:00] <farous> greyballoon: only iwconfig list all my devices here try it
[08:00] <Geoffrey2> I am having problems with my notebook keyboard, I think....as I'm typing, the cursor will at random intervals jump to somewhere else in the text...sometimes halfway back the same line...sometimes I'll shoot halfway up or down the screen I'm on.....any suggestions?
[08:00] <magice> sethk: the only way to get back here was to put it on nv
[08:00] <DShepherd> DBO: scale is slower now.. :-(
[08:01] <DBO> DShepherd, on vanilla or what huh I like cheese?
[08:01] <DShepherd> DBO: on quinn..
[08:01] <DBO> yeah that seems to be a fault of the later cgwd DShepherd
[08:01] <greyballoon> farous: iwconfig just says there are no wireless connection for lo, eth1, or sit0
[08:01] <ct8ball> how do I create a mountpoint?
[08:01] <DShepherd> where can I find info about vanilla...
[08:01] <Flannel> ct8ball: mountpoints are just folders
[08:01] <DShepherd> DBO: I mean its development progress.. if any
[08:01] <compotatoj> teb, sorry i didn't see your messages.. it seems like it is readwrite, but not to the user... to the fstab try adding ,uid=1000 to the options column
[08:02] <farous> greyballoon: it is telling you that you have to devices eth1 and sit0
[08:02] <ct8ball> ok. so why can I not get onto any of my hds?
[08:02] <farous> so one of them is the eth connection
[08:02] <DBO> DShepherd, uhhhhm =)
[08:02] <DBO> donno
[08:02] <sethk> magice, you mean dpkg-reconfigure itself hung when you tried to run it with the xorg.conf set to nvidia?
[08:02] <DShepherd> hehhe
[08:02] <greyballoon> farous: yes, but that seems strange
[08:02] <farous> greyballoon: i think some renaming occured to your devices
[08:02] <DShepherd> DBO: i thought you were the guy to ask.
[08:02] <DShepherd> :-) DBO too much quinn i see
[08:02] <DBO> DShepherd, ok, I mean Im too lazy to go look up their cvs of freedesktop
[08:02] <Geoffrey2> the mighty quinn
[08:02] <magice> sethk: no, it all went through, but then when I reloaded X it does what it always does when set to nvidia. hangs on the nvidia splash screen.,
[08:02] <damo22> where do i get help on a usb sound card
[08:02] <farous> greyballoon: did you update the kernel
[08:03] <DShepherd> DBO: k
[08:03] <greyballoon> farous,: yes
[08:03] <stiv2k> hey how is the composite extension coming along in xorg?
[08:03] <farous> sometimes that happen
[08:03] <noiesmo> is there a file I can edit to remove a dpkg-divert
[08:03] <stiv2k> is it stable now?
[08:03] <lhds> cannot remove package from synaptic return error 2 how to remove it?
[08:03] <sethk> magice, yes, I know.  Now I want you to repeat the dpkg-reconfigure, but with the driver set to nv, to see what resolution options it shows you
[08:03] <damo22> is there a list of devices somewhere that are recognised by snd-usb-audio driver?
[08:03] <greyballoon> farous: thank you so much, I just changed the interfaces file to eth1 and it started right up
[08:03] <eyequeue> lhds, sudo dpkg --purge foo
[08:04] <teb> compotatoj: still doesn't help, maybe it's journaled?
[08:04] <ct8ball> flannel: why would I not be able to access any of my hd's?
[08:04] <farous> cool good luck greyballoon
[08:04] <greyballoon> faours: I've been trying to figure this out all weekend
[08:04] <magice> sethk: I did just what you said after I saw that nvidia wouldnt work. my good resolution IS there and IS in the xorg file. it is just that when I start X it is forced down to 640x480
[08:04] <farous> :)
[08:04] <compotatoj> teb, it probably is, mine is too and what i did worked fine
[08:04] <OsirisX11> hi all! does anyone know how i can completely hide all boot up text?
[08:04] <compotatoj> teb, can you write to it as root?
[08:04] <OsirisX11> unless there is an error
[08:04] <greyballoon> farous: you rock, seriously.
[08:04] <sethk> magice, and what happens when you do  control-alt-+  (the plus on the number pad)
[08:04] <teb> compotatoj: nope, read only filesystem
[08:04] <magice> sethk: this laptop doesnt have a numpad
[08:05] <sethk> ok, try the normal plus sign
[08:05] <magice> i did
[08:05] <magice> no reaction
[08:05] <compotatoj> teb, in the output it says rw though
[08:05] <sethk> most laptops have a number pad, only it is a set of keys with something written on the front small side of the key
[08:05] <OsirisX11> magice there's a numpad usually associated with the Fn key
[08:05] <magice> i see
[08:05] <sethk> usually 7 8 and 9 are 7 8 and 9, 4, 5, and 6 are u, i, and o,  etc.
[08:05] <sethk> see if using that plus does anything.
[08:06] <magice> okay the + is doing nothing.
[08:06] <OsirisX11> so try ctrl-alt-fn-plussign on numpad
[08:06] <teb> compotatoj: i know
[08:06] <sethk> magice, but the reconfigure showed you several resolution options and you selected more than one?
[08:06] <ppcguy> hey all. Asked a question but lost my connection 'fore I got an answer.. I've borked my install and need to get some files off of my hd via my live cd.. I can my hd, but can't access it.. I've tried chmod and no dice.. Any ideas?
[08:06] <sethk> ppcguy, try that again.  you said "I can my hd but can't access it"
[08:06] <OsirisX11> i think he meant mount
[08:06] <ex-parrot> ppcguy, you've mounted your HDD properly?
[08:07] <magice> sethk, I selected the one closest to 1280x800, since it was not on the list
[08:07] <ex-parrot> and it's ext3?
[08:07] <ppcguy> sorry I can see the hd.. But I can't access it
[08:07] <eyequeue> ppcguy, did you mount it?
[08:07] <OsirisX11> ppcguy did you mount it?
[08:07] <lhds>   sudo dpkg  xorg-driver-fglrx                                   --purge foo error processing xorg-driver-fglrx (--purge):  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2 .... how to remove
[08:07] <compotatoj> teb, so are you just trying to get data from it and stuff or do you actually want it to boot osx
[08:07] <ppcguy> it's an existing install of dapper, believe I did
[08:07] <Dasnipa`> define 'see' 'see' is a windows term
[08:07] <eyequeue> ppcguy, did you execute the mount command?
[08:07] <cry0gen> this is anoying
[08:07] <ppcguy> I can see it in gnome and via the command line. But can't access it..
[08:07] <sethk> magice, do it again, write down the resolution you selected, and also make sure that it is the only resolution selected.  Possibly then X won't run even with nv, but if so we'll fix it.
[08:07] <teb> compotatoj: i just want to take some stuff off of it
[08:08] <ppcguy> yes I did, too the best of my knowledge
[08:08] <cry0gen> i can't get this damned ndiswrapper usb card to fucking connect to my gateway
[08:08] <magice> sethk: ok I'll try. With nvidia or with nv
[08:08] <OsirisX11> does anyone know how i can completely hide all boot up text in dapper?
[08:08] <slvmchn> hello guys, i got an M-Audio Delta 1010 today, anyone have experience with M-Audio interfaces and ubuntu?
[08:08] <compotatoj> teb, well can't you just copy it off? you don't need to write to it?
[08:08] <sethk> magice, you said with nvidia you only got one resolution to choose from.  so try it with nv.
[08:09] <mikeg> sethk:  hi seth. i have tried setting in bios SATA, RAID, AHIC..
[08:09] <magice> sethk, no I meant with Nvidia I couldnt get past the nvidia splash screen, with nv i only get one resolution.
[08:09] <mikeg> sethk: still i could not detect my drive
[08:09] <teb> compotatoj: cannot access 'Music': permission denied
[08:09] <compotatoj> slvmchn, I bet nobody will know how to help you and there probably aren't drivers for it... i've never heard of it.. try returning it and getting a common sound card :)
[08:09] <cry0gen> bah
[08:10] <slvmchn> got it used
[08:10] <compotatoj> teb, sudo cp whatever ??
[08:10] <sethk> magice, You've confused me.  You told me that you ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg with the driver set to nvidia.
[08:10] <magice> sethk: yes, at first.
[08:10] <magice> sethk: but then it loaded like it did everytime with nvidia and froze on the nvidia splash screen
[08:10] <sethk> mikeg, too bad.  I was hoping your mobo might have a similar problem, but apparently not.  I assume you left it set as sata.
[08:10] <slvmchn> compotatoj: you've never heard of M-Audio?
[08:10] <slvmchn> or Midiman?
[08:11] <magice> sethk: so i reverted back to nv to find one resolution
[08:11] <mohammed> exit
[08:11] <compotatoj> slvmchn, haha no but then again i don't really care about soundcards
[08:11] <stiv2k> would anyone happen to know what font this guy is using in his file browser ? > http://koti.mbnet.fi/anttia/screenshot-2006-08-01.png
[08:11] <sethk> magice, ok, so you have not been able to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg with nvidia.  It hangs the same way that it hangs if you do a normal startup?
[08:11] <compotatoj> teb, if you wanna screw up your permissions you could try chmod -R 755
[08:11] <compotatoj> teb, but that is if you don't wanna boot back up into it
[08:11] <mikeg> sethk: yeah, i set it to Sata this  time.
[08:11] <ppcguy> okay I tried to mount my hd again and get mount: can't find /hd* in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[08:11] <magice> sethk: it configures, but then it proceeds to the NVIDIA splash screen and locks up
[08:12] <mikeg> sethk:  still no effect.. i tried fdisk command, but it cannot write to the device
[08:12] <Megaqwerty> stiv2k: nope sorry I wouldn't
[08:12] <slvmchn> yeah thanks for the advice, i googled it and in 5 seconds find that it DOES have drivers and IS supported in ubuntu
[08:12] <cry0gen> any of you use ndiswrapper?
[08:12] <farous> cry0gen:
[08:12] <teb> compotatoj: the sudo cp was what i needed
[08:12] <farous> !ask
[08:12] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:12] <compotatoj> teb, ok cool
[08:12] <cry0gen> farous: I asked the question
[08:12] <cry0gen> :P
[08:12] <Megaqwerty> is there an Ubuntu build of Eclipse?
[08:12] <farous> cry0gen: which is
[08:12] <teb> compotatoj: i guess i can chmod it once it's done copying?
[08:12] <cry0gen> I was wondering if anyone in here used ndiswrapper
[08:12] <cry0gen> :P
[08:12] <cry0gen> it's in plain text?
[08:13] <cry0gen> Can you read that?
[08:13] <cry0gen> Thanks.
[08:13] <compotatoj> cry0gen, I've used it before.
[08:13] <farous> that is not a support question ask you real question
[08:13] <eyequeue> ppcguy, use the full mount syntax (see "man 8 mount")
[08:13] <cry0gen> farous: that is a real question
[08:13] <cry0gen> I was asking if someone used it, And if someone replied yes.
[08:13] <mikeg> sethk:  still no effect.. i tried fdisk command, but it cannot write to the device
[08:13] <cry0gen> I would direct my question to them.
[08:13] <cry0gen> Logical eh?
[08:13] <eyequeue> !ask
[08:13] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:13] <sethk> magice, I'm still confused.  when you say it configures, does that mean that you got to the point where you set the resolution(s)?
[08:13] <sethk> mikeg, does fdisk -l work?
[08:14] <eyequeue> oops
[08:14] <compotatoj> cry0gen, I used it but it was years ago so I probably don't know how to help you
[08:14] <eyequeue> !anyone
[08:14] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:14] <magice> sethk: I mean I reconfigure xorg, I restart X and it proceeds to the nvidia splash screen
[08:14] <magice> where it freezes
[08:14] <farous> cry0gen: i use it but again ask your real question
[08:14] <cry0gen> eyequeue: stop with the "!" commands.
[08:14] <cyphase> how do you hide the text that shows when grub is booting the kernel
[08:14] <eyequeue> cry0gen, why?
[08:14] <max_> hi
[08:14] <cyphase> before usplash
[08:14] <compotatoj> teb, yes, chmod your version as -R 755 but not the one that is mounted
[08:14] <Megaqwerty> is there an Ubuntu build of Eclipse?
[08:15] <cry0gen> farous: there you go, now for the next question, iwconfig won't hold any of the commands I direct towards the wrapped device.
[08:15] <cry0gen> iwconfig wlan0 ESSID 'gateway'
[08:15] <sethk> magice, I'm confused because I'm asking how many resolutions showed during dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg with the driver set to "nvidia".  So far I don't have an answer.  If the reconfigure completed, you should be able to tell me how many resolutions were shown.
[08:15] <slvmchn> anyone know any good ubuntu games besides netpanzer, enemy territory, and tremulous? ideally RTS or RPG
[08:15] <max_> i want to mount a dirve , how can i switch to root , from terminal
[08:15] <cry0gen> still shows ESSID:off/any (when I do iwconfig again)
[08:15] <cry0gen> It just wont accept anything I tell it to use.
[08:15] <Megaqwerty> anyone?
[08:15] <compotatoj> slvmchn, try getting an emulator and some roms
[08:15] <magice> sethk: alot of resolutions were shown
[08:15] <magice> setk: i ticked mine
[08:15] <cry0gen> It's as if iwconfig isn't communicating with the device.
[08:15] <eyequeue> slvmchn, atc?
[08:16] <farous> cry0gen: did you put sudo before the command
[08:16] <cry0gen> i did sudo su
[08:16] <magice> sethk: but when it went into x and GNOME the only resolution available is 640
[08:16] <cry0gen> so i was at root shell the whole time./
[08:16] <max_> su
[08:16] <farous> cry0gen: and i usually do the config in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:16] <cry0gen> Otherwise I'd get tje Error wireless request "Set Encode"
[08:16] <cry0gen> Ok
[08:16] <max_> thank you
[08:16] <ppcguy> okay new question.. If I do a new install of dapper on the free space on my hd, would I be able the then access the existing install?
[08:16] <OsirisX11> can i make ubuntu boot quietly without kernel boot messages?
[08:16] <sethk> magice, no, that's not true, because you never get that far.
[08:17] <magice> sethk: i never get that far with nvidia
[08:17] <kyeyekkarn> Is there a way to force a random application to the root window? It's a full screen game, I wanted to put it in root...
[08:17] <Vicious_Blayd> slvmchn, you might be interested in Battle for Wesnoth, it's an open-source strategy/RPG sort of game. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_for_wesnoth
[08:17] <eyequeue> OsirisX11, i
[08:17] <magice> sethk: i do with nv
[08:17] <farous> cry0gen: did you make sure it is working properly
[08:17] <mikeg> sethk: fdisk doesnt work. it says, it cannot write to device..
[08:17] <sethk> magice, yes, but with nvidia is what we are talking about
[08:17] <eyequeue> OsirisX11, i've never heard of that being done, no
[08:17] <sethk> mikeg, it can't say that for fdisk -l.  fdisk -l is a read only operation
[08:17] <farous> cry0gen: i mean can you scan for networks for ex
[08:17] <compotatoj> OsirisX11, Interesting question... are you trying to impress someone about how cool Ubuntu is? haha
[08:18] <magice> sethk: oh, with nvidia there were many resolutions, i chose mine, finished the config.
[08:18] <cry0gen> farous: Yes, iwlist scanning shows my gateway.
[08:18] <OsirisX11> commercial installation, im opening a web cafe/dvd copy/pc hardware help store
[08:18] <magice> sethk: then it went to the white nvidia screen and froze
[08:18] <OsirisX11> i want them all to boot as quietly and fast as possible
[08:18] <sethk> magice, ok, did you get to the point where it asks about using frame buffer, and you said no?
[08:18] <farous> cry0gen: why not just edit the /etc/network/interfaces file directly then
[08:18] <mikeg> sethk: ah ok so what u think is the good idea to make my drive detected
[08:18] <magice> sethk: it did this time
[08:18] <cry0gen> ifconfig doesnt see the wlan0 device.
[08:18] <magice> sethk and i enabled it
[08:18] <OsirisX11> it will be in Ontario, Wisconsin if anyone is interested
[08:18] <sethk> magice, ok, the idea was to disable it.
[08:18] <cry0gen> But, I did configure it.
[08:19] <cry0gen> (in the interfaces file)
[08:19] <magice> sethk, ohhh i thought you said ENable
[08:19] <magice> i will try that
[08:19] <magice> command again?
[08:19] <sethk> mikeg, I'm not sure.  what happened when you ran fdisk -l ?
[08:19] <farous> cry0gen: give me a min for i think ifconfig does not see wireless here either
[08:19] <eyequeue> OsirisX11, you could probably have a coder write a custom usplash (app) with a --silent option, i suppose
[08:19] <dfgas> OsirisX11, where is ontario wisconsin? beaver dam wisconsin here
[08:19] <sethk> magice, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:19] <cry0gen> ok, figured so.
[08:19] <cry0gen> Thought that was an issue on my part.
[08:19] <cry0gen> Ok so I configured it.
[08:19] <cry0gen> did init.d/network restart
[08:19] <farous> cry0gen: not ifconfig list it if it is configured properly
[08:19] <mikeg> sethk: i try fdisk /dev/hda
[08:19] <OsirisX11> Ontario is just south of Tomah and about an hour away from LaCrosse
[08:20] <cry0gen> it's trying to dhclient the ip from the router, but, it looks like its going to fail
[08:20] <cry0gen> How would I send a tkip in the interfaces config file?
[08:20] <farous> cry0gen: is it a broadcom card by anychance
[08:20] <sethk> mikeg, try  fdisk -l /dev/hda
[08:20] <mikeg> sethk: and so i started creating partition, but when i attemp to w(rite) it , it says unable to write device
[08:20] <compotatoj> OsirisX11, for the speed, I can direct you to a tutorial to disable services that you don't need.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189192
[08:20] <UpMarc> Por favor, onde posso encontrar uma lista de comandos para o navegador do Ubuntu?
[08:20] <cry0gen> no
[08:20] <farous> that isgood
[08:20] <cry0gen> DLink something or other
[08:20] <FloK> my gnome's menubar vanishes from time to time, anyone  an idea ?
[08:20] <cry0gen> rt2570
[08:20] <eyequeue> !es > UpMarc
[08:20] <OsirisX11> ty compotatoj
[08:20] <mikeg> sethk: what does -l mean for?
[08:21] <farous> cry0gen: did you put the router address as the dns server
[08:21] <dfgas> OsirisX11, whats the zip?
[08:21] <UpMarc> sorry... wrong ubuntu... going to #ubuntu-br
[08:21] <sethk> mikeg, means list the partition table
[08:21] <FloK> err i have to leave , i check that again later.
[08:21] <OsirisX11> dfgas: 54651
[08:21] <mikeg> sethk:  ah okay. i have tried dat one already. defintely my list is empty. so i tried creating partitions
[08:22] <farous> cry0gen: o you set it as dhcp right
[08:22] <cry0gen> yeah
[08:22] <dfgas> OsirisX11, heh, 2 1/2 hours
[08:22] <compotatoj> OsirisX11, i linked you to the wrong thing lol
[08:22] <farous> cry0gen: is the network encrypted
[08:22] <cry0gen> yeah
[08:22] <cry0gen> TKIP
[08:23] <cry0gen> i set wireless-key *wepkeyhere*
[08:23] <farous> cry0gen: mine here won't work with wep encrip
[08:23] <cry0gen> damnit.
[08:23] <cry0gen> I can't remove it.
[08:23] <cry0gen> My neighbours like to steal our wireless.
[08:23] <cafuego_> cry0gen: tkip is WPA, not wep.
[08:23] <farous> cry0gen: ascii or hex
[08:23] <compotatoj> OsirisX11, here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[08:23] <farous> the encrypt key
[08:23] <OsirisX11> ty
[08:23] <mikeg> sethk:  ah okay. i have tried dat one already. defintely my list is empty. so i tried creating partitions
[08:23] <cry0gen> cafuego_: yeah, what should I set it to in the config than?
[08:24] <cafuego_> cry0gen: Leave it empty and use wpasupplicant (different config file).
[08:24] <farous> wpa_supplicent package
[08:24] <cry0gen> cafuego_: ahh ok
[08:24] <Geoffrey2> is there any easy way to get rid of all the associated files from earlier kernel versions....the ubuntu team has updated it several times, and it seems a waste of hard drive space to keep all the older and no longer used files....
[08:24] <compotatoj> cry0gen, you could play some pranks on them like have a packet sniffer or look at their shares :)
[08:24] <sethk> mikeg, Sounds like it is able to read from the drive but not write to it.
[08:24] <cry0gen> compotatoj: already did it.
[08:24] <cry0gen> hosed one of there boses
[08:24] <cry0gen> boxes.
[08:24] <cry0gen> lol
[08:24] <sethk> mikeg, or, at least, it thinks it can read from it.
[08:24] <compotatoj> Geoffrey2, they are there just in case the newer ones stop working
[08:24] <cafuego_> compotatoj: No: http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html
[08:24] <eyequeue> Geoffrey2, dpkg --purge packagenamehere
[08:25] <cry0gen> ok got that package installed from the cd
[08:25] <cry0gen> now to find how to use that bastard again
[08:25] <cry0gen> lol
[08:25] <cef> anyone here terminated a PPPoE framed route on a linux box? pref ubuntu or debian? I'm just wondering if there is any client config required apart from the usual routing stuff?
[08:25] <cafuego_> Seems down :-(
[08:25] <nalpha> guys i've been install avg antivirus free on my ubuntu and the question how to run the program where program installed??
[08:25] <compotatoj> cry0gen, on windows i used this program called cain and was able to switch google.com to another site of my choice and stuff it was funny
[08:25] <OsirisX11> at my store i'm going to have a stack of ubuntu cds to give to everyone who wants one. :)
[08:25] <mikeg> sethk:  hay.... i wish i cud install now my ubuntu in my box
[08:25] <cry0gen> LOL
[08:25] <farous> cry0gen: if it is dhcp that you use network manager package will make it easy for you
[08:26] <compotatoj> cafuego_, that site doesn't load
[08:26] <mikeg> somebody help me
[08:26] <sethk> mikeg, I don't know what you mean?
[08:26] <sethk> mikeg, oh, just that you don't know what to do.
[08:26] <cafuego_> compotatoj: yeah, I noticed. It basically describes how to make wifi leecher runs through a transaprent squid proxy and use squid to rotate all images on all pages they view 180
[08:26] <cry0gen> the NetworkManager is default on the CD right?
[08:26] <compotatoj> cafuego_, nice :)
[08:27] <cafuego_> compotatoj: Yep - I wanted to do it here, but the site is down :-(
[08:27] <mikeg> sethk: yeah, i dont know how. i have tried my best already..
[08:27] <compotatoj> I wish I had WiFi leechers, it would be so much more fun
[08:27] <mikeg> sethk: what other commands that might help me trouble shoot this?
[08:27] <OsirisX11> anyone know how i could read a rating from a commercial DVD? at my store i want to allow dvd copying but disallow porn copying, so i was wanting to check for a file or some part of the disc that holds the mpaa rating. anyone know?
[08:28] <sethk> mikeg, I'm thinking
[08:28] <compotatoj> OsirisX11, does that even exist? lol
[08:28] <sethk> mikeg, it's hard during installation, because you can't do very much.  If you boot a live CD do you see the drive?
[08:28] <OsirisX11> an MPAA rating? sure. how do you think disc players with parental control protect against it?
[08:28] <compotatoj> OsirisX11, oh yeah i guess it does because my playstation has parental control
[08:29] <Nimwei> hey
[08:29] <Vicious_Blayd> Perhaps there's a setting in whatever program you'll be using to copy the DVDs?
[08:29] <OsirisX11> i guess i could find an open source dvd player app and look in their parental control section
[08:29] <Nimwei> how come Totem won't startup..say ssomething about "Failed to connect to the sound server.":
[08:29] <Nimwei> I don't have a sound card, but I don't need one on this box.
[08:30] <eyequeue> OsirisX11, i suspect you'd first have to know what the format of the data is, what byte offset contains the field ... is there an rfc that specifies the format?  is it an open format?
[08:30] <eyequeue> OsirisX11, there you go :)
[08:30] <OsirisX11> thanks for the help eyequeue
[08:31] <eyequeue> OsirisX11, i like reusing code, rather than reinventing the wheel :)
[08:31] <mikeg> sethk: thanks
[08:32] <Nimwei> Anyone have an idea about Totem sound servers? It wont' load w/o one apparently for me.
[08:32] <Red_Herring> poll
[08:32] <sethk> mikeg, can you run a live cd and see the drive?
[08:32] <Red_Herring> cs server, whats the better name? REAP (Really extremely awesome people) or JsBT(just some bored teens)
[08:32] <cafuego_> compotatoj: It is fun, I can amuse myself every morning checking the squid logs :-)
[08:33] <Flannel> Red_Herring: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:33] <Red_Herring> bah fine
[08:33] <Geoffrey2> OsirisX11, just to let you know, there's no requirement for a DVD or VHS tape to be rated...so it's quite possible a lot of the porn out there doesn't have a rating at all...at least not a valid one
[08:33] <compotatoj> cafuego_, lucky that you live near a lot of people.. i don't :(
[08:34] <cry0gen> farous: is the NetworkManager on the CD
[08:34] <farous> cry0gen: i do nto know
[08:34] <farous> cry0gen: it is network-manager
[08:34] <farous> !info network-manager
[08:34] <ubotu> network-manager: network management framework (daemon). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 532 kB
[08:34] <WarOfAttrition> avoid buying compaq desktops
[08:34] <cry0gen> hm
[08:34] <cry0gen> not on the CD
[08:35] <Vicious_Blayd> Geoffery2, every DVD player app I've ever come across has an option to disallow unrated content, though.
[08:35] <mikeg> sethk: yeah i can see the drive
[08:35] <farous> was support the magical solution for networking in dapper
[08:35] <farous> s/supported/supposed
[08:35] <sethk> mikeg, have you tried to run fdisk after booting the live cd?
[08:36] <mikeg> sethk: yup, dats what i do
[08:36] <Geoffrey2> Vicious_Blayd, all well and good, but of course that also means someone who wants to copy a dvd of his daughters wedding ceremony is gonna be outta luck
[08:36] <sethk> mikeg, I assumed you were using an install cd
[08:37] <mikeg> sethk: yup, im using the install cd. i downloaded form the site. and burn it to cd
[08:37] <sethk> mikeg, ok, then you haven't tried a live cd
[08:38] <mikeg> sethk: i have tried it already. in fact i could use the descktop
[08:38] <Vicious_Blayd> Geoffery2, Yeah, that's true. Not sure what else he could do, aside from screening every DVD someone wants copied.
[08:38] <sethk> mikeg, ok, did you try running fdisk with the live cd?  Not with the install cd?
[08:39] <mikeg> sethk: i have tried running fdisk with in the live cd. this means im the desktop already.
[08:39] <sethk> mikeg, you are confusing me.  Have you tried just the live cd, or both the live cd and the install cd?
[08:40] <mikeg> is live cd differenct from install cd? what im using is the live cd ubuntu desktop 6.06 version
[08:40] <mikeg> sethk: is live cd differenct from install cd? what im using is the live cd ubuntu desktop 6.06 version
[08:41] <eyequeue> sethk, live and install are together in 6.06
[08:41] <mikeg> eyequeue:  ah okay. so they're together..
[08:41] <sethk> eyequeue, mikeg, ok, then, booted for install vs. booted as live cd
[08:42] <eyequeue> mikeg, same thing, as of that version, but some of us are oldbies :)
[08:42] <eyequeue> sethk, nah, there is an "install" icon on the desktop, it's also a whole new installer, they say
[08:42] <vivir> trying to download skype for breezy badger, new to linux, in China and don't have cr burner to download and install Dapper Drake
[08:42] <mikeg> sethk:  i booted it as live cd i think. i selected the first choice
[08:43] <vivir> soryy if I interupt
[08:43] <sethk> mikeg, I would try breezy.
[08:43] <eyequeue> vivir, it is okay, go ahead and ask
[08:43] <due> vivir: Upgrade to dapper. :)
[08:43] <mikeg> sethk: what is dat breezy thing
[08:43] <sethk> mikeg, the previous ubuntu release
[08:43] <mikeg> sethk: i see
[08:43] <sethk> mikeg, the newer one is quite new and I'm waiting for it to settle
[08:43] <due> vivir: You don't need a Cd/burner to do it.
[08:44] <mikeg> eyequeue: i have seen also installer in desktop. also in administration tools
[08:44] <vivir> need to install skype for breezy but can't seem to do it
[08:44] <magneticubuntu> sethk: Dapper is quite stable
[08:44] <magneticubuntu> and better than breezy
[08:44] <vivir> how can I do it then
[08:44] <magneticubuntu> lots of bug fixes
[08:44] <magneticubuntu> apt-get update
[08:44] <vivir> yeah I had it but I got greedy and screwed it up
[08:44] <magneticubuntu> apt-get upgrade
[08:45] <due> you should change breezy -> dapper in your sources.list, too.
[08:45] <mikeg> sethk: i see. but they say, the newer version supports sata drives. dats why im using it
[08:45] <sethk> magneticubuntu, better is meaningless, certainly in this context.   better for what purpose?
[08:45] <magneticubuntu> sethK; less bugs is always better
[08:45] <due> Or run "gksudo update-manager -d".
[08:45] <WarOfAttrition> but seriously is there a way to bypass the linux block that is on some bios?
[08:45] <sethk> mikeg, ok.  I would still try the previous one.
[08:45] <sethk> magneticubuntu, clearly there are fewer install type glitches in breezy, which is quite normal for the release date of dapper
[08:46] <sethk> magneticubuntu, but less bugs is not always better
[08:46] <compotatoj> OsirisX11, if you find a way to get rid of the linux kernel messages at bootup please tell me :)
[08:46] <sethk> magneticubuntu, and it is very frequent that an older release is better for a particular purpose than a newer one.
[08:46] <magneticubuntu> i wont argue with you =-
[08:46] <magneticubuntu> dapper is better though :P
[08:47] <mikeg> magneticubuntu: is dapper included already in new ubuntu download?
[08:47] <sethk> magneticubuntu, that's foolishness.  Nothing is "better" than anything else, and the context is essential.
[08:47] <magneticubuntu> mikeg: get the dapper iso and install from that
[08:47] <magneticubuntu> sethK :fine
[08:47] <WarOfAttrition> yes it is, just make sure your PC is not a compaq and it will be ok
[08:47] <magneticubuntu> mikeg: trust me its better
[08:47] <mikeg> magneticubuntu: so its a separate thing from my live cd installer
[08:48] <soundmaster80> hello, samba is keeping logs of the IP/pcname that accesses it. the logs are getting big quick, is there a way to turn it off
[08:48] <eyequeue> did anyone ever find the "screenshot" command (guithing) on dapper?
[08:48] <soundmaster80> or limit the size
[08:48] <sethk> mikeg, I've been doing this for a long, long time.  You can believe me or not, as you wish.
[08:48] <magneticubuntu> mikeg: its live too
[08:48] <vivir> apt-get upgrade
[08:48] <Vicious_Blayd> Alright, I have a question. When booting from the 6.06 live cd, I get an error, "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not setup correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?" I've done a bit of research and discovered it's a problem with my video card (ATI Radeon X800), and that there don't seem to be any workarounds if I don't want to do a full install.
[08:48] <Vicious_Blayd> Does anyone know if this is fixed in 6.06.1?
[08:48] <sethk> mikeg, with the previous release the live cd is separate from the installation cd
[08:48] <magneticubuntu> sethK dont freaking tell the guy to install Breezy, its foolish
[08:48] <compotatoj> Vicious_Blayd, try safe graphics mode
[08:48] <eyequeue> soundmaster80, if no one else gives you a solution, i can maybe
[08:48] <sethk> magneticubuntu, nonsense
[08:48] <Vicious_Blayd> compotatoj, I tried that, got the same error.
[08:49] <compotatoj> Vicious_Blayd, get an nvidia card :)
[08:49] <compotatoj> Vicious_Blayd, trick someone into buying yours lol
[08:49] <mikeg> sethk: i see. thanks for the two of you..
[08:49] <soundmaster80> lol, doesn't sound like any one is
[08:49] <Vicious_Blayd> :-P No can do, I like my X800.
[08:49] <idn_ubuntu> hi, i was wondering if someone can help me, I have a problem when i try to load gdmsetup - I get the following error:
[08:49] <idn_ubuntu>  Could not access GDM configuration file.
[08:49] <idn_ubuntu> I am not sure what the problem is - i think i did something when installing xgl but i cant be sure.
[08:49] <eyequeue> soundmaster80, maybe packages that keep logs have a cron job in /etc/cron.daily/* that calls logrotate
[08:50] <eyequeue> soundmaster80, many, not maybe :)
[08:50] <magneticubuntu> sethk: thats why the ubuntu devbs recommend dapper? are you on drugs?
[08:50] <cry0gen> arg
[08:50] <cry0gen> wpa_supplicant is no help either :(
[08:50] <cry0gen> just keeps looping
[08:50] <sethk> magneticubuntu, intelligent comment
[08:50] <beu> ;34
[08:50] <beu> er..
[08:50] <eyequeue> soundmaster80, anyway, you could perhaps tweak around in there to see if you can increase the frequency of log rotation
[08:50] <soundmaster80> well, i don't mind it but i don't want it overrunning everything
[08:50] <magneticubuntu> sethK: well if youa re being foolish i might as well be
[08:50] <magneticubuntu> sethK lets take a vote here
[08:51] <magneticubuntu> ALL WHO SAY DAPPER IS BETTER THAN BREEZY SAY AYE PLEASE
[08:51] <Vicious_Blayd> Magneticubuntu: Frankly, I'm having hell of problems with Dapper at the moment. ;-P
[08:51] <eyequeue> soundmaster80, i've never used samba, i don't know how it does its thing, just tossing out the typical concept, if it helps
[08:51] <sethk> magneticubuntu, if you ever study engineering, on your first day they will teach you not to say "better" without context.
[08:51] <magneticubuntu> Vicious_Blayd, lol
[08:51] <chalcedony> does anyone know how to pick up a window from any point on the window? I've got Xchat stuck up at the top of the screen.. and the bar to pick it up is behind the task bar or somewhere? (using gnome on dapper)
[08:51] <OsirisX11> magneticubuntu: leaps and bounds. :)
[08:51] <sethk> Vicious_Blayd, dapper is a bit raw, still.
[08:52] <chalcedony> magneticubuntu: dapper ain't bad
[08:52] <compotatoj> I still use warty... I don't know about you...
[08:52] <sethk> you guys are joking, but seriously, both "dapper is better" and "breezy is better" are nonsensical.
[08:52] <magneticubuntu> sethk: there you go
[08:52] <NickGarvey> compotatoj: ..really?
[08:52] <soundmaster80> well, it's a simple home server but over time it's getting large
[08:52] <magneticubuntu> omfg
[08:52] <compotatoj> NickaNicka, no
[08:52] <eyequeue> i'd say dapper is done, it's more edgy that is raw :)
[08:52] <magneticubuntu> seth: you are talking nonsense here
[08:52] <sethk> magneticubuntu, there I go?  Two votes one way and two votes the other?  :)
[08:52] <Vicious_Blayd> sethk, Yeah... the first time I tried to run it I got a kernel panic, managed to fix that myself, only to run into this X server problem.
[08:52] <compotatoj> NickaNicka, I think there is some way to see that i am on dapper
[08:52] <sethk> magneticubuntu, no, you are.  this is fundamental.  You'll understand some day.
[08:52] <Geoffrey2> given the number of people I see on here complaining about this device or that device that stopped working when they upgraded to dapper.....
[08:52] <chalcedony> how do i get my window down from there?
[08:53] <sethk> Vicious_Blayd, that's normal given the dapper release date.  I like dapper, it's just new.
[08:53] <compotatoj> How do you do they annoying thing in IRC that shows like what computer they are running
[08:53] <^Ocean^> is there a way to throttel the bandwith on my network card.  Like add a cap too it so my computer wont download faster than 300k/sec ?
[08:53] <eyequeue> !version > compotatoj
[08:53] <sethk> Geoffrey2, yes, it's quite obvious.  However, I'm not saying breezy is better, nor am I saying dapper is better.  I'm saying it depends on the context.  In this case your hardware is a large part of the context.
[08:53] <compotatoj> no I mean its a command in IRC
[08:53] <NickGarvey> compotatoj: um.. /whois might show some info
[08:53] <Vicious_Blayd> sethk, Yeah, that's what I figured. Do you know if the issue I was having has been fixed in the 6.06.1 maintenance release, though?
[08:54] <NickGarvey> but all it tells me is taht you are in automatix and you are Jeff
[08:54] <kleedrac> How do I make a script that will make a message popup reminder for myself?
[08:54] <eyequeue> compotatoj, you probably mean the ctcp command?
[08:54] <compotatoj> ya
[08:54] <eyequeue> compotatoj, version
[08:54] <sethk> Vicious_Blayd, I don't know.  I haven't heard of a specific ati fix, but I don't know every patch (far from it)
[08:54] <NickGarvey> oh sweet?!!
[08:54] <chalcedony> please can someone tell me how to move this window with the top bar stuck up at the top?
[08:54] <NickGarvey> I didn't know you could do that
[08:54] <NickGarvey> compotatoj: may I ctcp version you please?
[08:54] <compotatoj> ya
[08:54] <compotatoj> ctcp version compotatoj
[08:54] <compotatoj> i forget how to do it
[08:54] <Geoffrey2> sethk, personally, I think it's simple....the "best" operating system/version is whichever you feel the most comfortable working with.....
[08:55] <NickGarvey> no reply
[08:55] <NickGarvey> !
[08:55] <kleedrac> chalcedony: You should be able to click on the top bar and hide it
[08:55] <Vicious_Blayd> Now, I heard someone in here say that pre-Dapper versions don't support SATA drives?
[08:55] <eyequeue> compotatoj, what you said, preceded by a slash :)
[08:55] <compotatoj> lol it doesn't work
[08:55] <NickGarvey> cept..
[08:55] <sethk> Vicious_Blayd, no, that's not true.
[08:55] <chalcedony> kleedrac click how? nothing happens?
[08:55] <NickGarvey> it works with myself
[08:55] <compotatoj> it says i did it but nothing shows up
[08:55] <eyequeue> freenode may filter it, it's an atypical netword (dancer ircd)
[08:55] <magneticubuntu> NickGarvey, do you prefer Dapper or Breezy?
[08:56] <shawnr_> anyone know of a linux program comparable to Dreamweaver?
[08:56] <mikeg> sethk:  i have reach this stage already.. http://www.ubuntu.com/include/testing/flight6/espresso1-big.png
[08:56] <NickGarvey> magneticubuntu: gentoo/suse
[08:56] <sethk> Geoffrey2, indeed.  but I have a box here that works great with dapper and I have another box which doesn't, so it isn't just preference.
[08:56] <meetpete> Hi there. Just having trouble remembering the term command to return the kernel version.
[08:56] <sethk> mikeg, ok, let me read
[08:56] <NickGarvey> meetpete: uname -r
[08:56] <shawnr_> meetpete, uname -r
[08:56] <NickGarvey> shawnr_: I win
[08:56] <shawnr_> lol
[08:56] <meetpete> Champion Nick, good on you
[08:56] <eyequeue> shawnr_, what is that?
[08:56] <NickGarvey> :)
[08:56] <mikeg> sethk: but when i reach here: http://www.ubuntu.com/include/testing/flight6/espresso1-big.png it couldnt detect my drive
[08:56] <eyequeue> shawnr_, comparable to....?  what does it do?
[08:57] <chose> hi where can i get autodir's deb?
[08:57] <shawnr_> Visualy edit a webpage
[08:57] <chose> i tried apt-get install autodir
[08:57] <chalcedony> nobody knows how to pick up this window and move it with the top bar stuck up there.. and i can't get the taskbar to do anything but sit there.
[08:57] <chose> doesn't exist
[08:57] <sethk> this is amazing, the installer has this huge "I'm new, I might not work" screen.
[08:57] <Geoffrey2> sethk, me, my previous unix/linux experience is toying with FreeBSD briefly....I finally decided to try and figure out linux and went with ubuntu Dapper..so, having never used Breezy, I couldn't even begin to compare...obviously
[08:57] <shawnr_> eyequeue, actually see the page as your work on it
[08:57] <sethk> I wonder why that is there?  :)
[08:57] <kleedrac> chalcedony: You should be able to right-click the top bar ... maybe I'm not understanding ... are you saying that the top of the application window is underneath the top gnome bar?
[08:57] <eyequeue> shawnr_, like bluefish?
[08:58] <eyequeue> !info bluefish
[08:58] <ubotu> bluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.4-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1483 kB, installed size 6488 kB
[08:58] <chalcedony> kleedrac: up
[08:58] <shawnr_> eyequeue, bluefish lets you visually edit html?
[08:58] <sethk> Geoffrey2, they are identical, dapper just has newer versions of lots of things, and more things.
[08:58] <chalcedony> yes
[08:58] <NickGarvey> shawnr_: nvu is what you want
[08:58] <NickGarvey> !info nvu
[08:58] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB
[08:58] <kleedrac> chalcedony: You should be able to right click on that top bar and get a context menu, yes?
[08:58] <eyequeue> shawnr_, it's not my thing, but i've heard good reviews of it, yes
[08:58] <chalcedony> kleedrac: is 'delete this panel' what i want?
[08:58] <mikeg> sethk: have u seen dat one? any idea?
[08:59] <NickGarvey> compiling my keeernel
[08:59] <Geoffrey2> oh, I keep hearing about version 6.06.1...I would presume that's the version I have, but is there any way to verify that?
[08:59] <eyequeue> shawnr_, there you go, NickGarvey is more into it than i, i think :)
[08:59] <kleedrac> chalcedony: NO
[08:59] <NickGarvey> wrong window heh
[08:59] <compotatoj> NickGarvey, sorry haha
[08:59] <sethk> mikeg, you already rejected my idea.
[08:59] <kleedrac> chalcedony: you'd have to re-create that top panel
[08:59] <chalcedony> kleedrac: i'm glad i didn't click that, then
[08:59] <chalcedony> oh:(
[09:00] <kleedrac> chalcedony: but in panel preferences you can add the hide arrows on the sides ... then click one and the bar disappears till you click the arrow again
[09:00] <mikeg> sethk: umm i think i missed it. i havent read it i guess
[09:00] <chalcedony> kleedrac: ok where is panel preferences?
[09:00] <sethk> mikeg, I suggested installing the previous ubuntu release.
[09:00] <mikeg> sethk: u mean the breezy thing?
[09:01] <shawnr_> NickG, that looks like it will work for me... thanks ;p
[09:01] <kleedrac> chalcedony: It probably just says preferences
[09:01] <chose> hi
[09:01] <chalcedony> didn't say that, either
[09:01] <mikeg> sethk: ah ok. need to to download another again...
[09:01] <chose> so where can i get autodir
[09:01] <chose> i don't like to compile from source
[09:01] <chose> if i can help it at least
[09:01] <compotatoj> does edgy come out october 1st?
[09:01] <sethk> mikeg, it's worth a try.  If it goes, you can upgrade to dapper (although I'd wait a few weeks, personally)
[09:01] <eyequeue> 6.10 for edgy
[09:01] <Vicious_Blayd> Hmm, it seems like this problem I'm having has been around since Hoary, and still isn't fixed. :-\ Here's some more info on it, in addition to what I've mentioned already. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/30284
[09:02] <cry0gen> omg
[09:02] <cry0gen> i got it working
[09:02] <chalcedony> kleedrac: IT WORKS :)) and ty i wondered where those went :)))
[09:02] <kleedrac> chalcedony: no problem :)
[09:02] <chalcedony> :)
[09:02] <ripper> anyone know if its possible to mount a directory via ssh that is outside the LAN?
[09:02] <shawnr_> Anyone ever see this:  I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/var/lib/scrollkeeper/(null)/scrollkeeper_cl.xml
[09:02] <due> ripper: sshfs
[09:03] <Geoffrey2> oh, if I wanted ot find a list of the errors being generated during boot-up, where would I look?
[09:03] <eyequeue> Geoffrey2, "dmesg" perhaps?
[09:03] <ripper> im talking about using network places in ubuntu...
[09:03] <BeepAU> Sorry, this game requires your Windows language settings to be English. Please change the settings then run the game again. Apologies for any inconvenience.
[09:03] <BeepAU> how do i change the language in wine?
[09:04] <kleedrac> ripper: You can access filesystems over ssh using gFTP ... that's how I do filetransfers :D
[09:04] <eyequeue> Geoffrey2, /var/log/* might also be what you had in mind
[09:04] <sethk> Geoffrey2, dmesg, most also end up in /var/log/messages
[09:04] <kleedrac> Does anyone know if there's a command I can put in a shell script to have Gnome pop up an alert window for me?
[09:04] <hc^> hello
[09:05] <Stormx2> I need to set my keyboard layout to British English in XFCE, how?
[09:05] <hc^> Stormx2: look in the menu
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> Stormx2: xmodmap -e "/usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.uk"
[09:05] <hc^> i just took down my xfce-box
[09:05] <shawnr_> Anyone ever see this:  I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/var/lib/scrollkeeper/(null)/scrollkeeper_cl.xml
[09:05] <cry0gen> jesus 501 mb of updates x-x
[09:05] <Stormx2> fyrestrtr: xmodmap:  unknown command on line commandline:1
[09:06] <angel12> hey guys, im trying to build a driver from source, and whenever i "make" i get an error saying /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build is no such file or dir, any help?
[09:06] <sethk> shawnr_, that (null) looks very suspicious
[09:06] <hc^> angel12: do you have build-essential ?
[09:06] <hc^> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:06] <shawnr_> sethk, suspicious how?
[09:06] <angel12> hc^, yep, i got everything i thought i needed
[09:06] <sethk> angel12, did you do  ls /lib/modules to check for a 2.6.15-23-386 directory?
[09:06] <sethk> shawnr_, shouldn't have a null in the middle of a string.
[09:06] <angel12> sethk, yeah i checked, and inside the 2.6.15-23-383 there isnt a build
[09:07] <shawnr_> sethk, i get that 'sometimes' when im installing/removing with apt-get
[09:07] <sethk> shawnr_, ok.  I don't like it.
[09:07] <angel12> sethk, i mean 386
[09:08] <sethk> angel12, right, I assumed that.
[09:08] <sethk> angel12, what are you compiling?
[09:08] <angel12> sethk, just thought i ought to make sure lol. a driver for my tablet pc's pen
[09:08] <Stormx2> I need to set my keyboard layout to British English in XFCE, how?
[09:08] <BeepAU> how do i change the language in wine?
[09:08] <Tonren> Anyone get Photoshop 7.0 to work with Wine?
[09:08] <hc^> but, guys, i need some serious help here.  i created an (a?) user, with sudo adduser testuser. but, when i ssh'ed in to the user; i could access all the folders on the whole system! what should I do to fix that?
[09:08] <angel12> Stormx2, have you asked google?
[09:08] <kleedrac> Tonren: Get Crossover Office and save yourself a headache :D
[09:08] <Vicious_Blayd> Tonren: Pfft. Get GIMP. :-P
[09:09] <Tonren> kleedrac: What's that?
[09:09] <Stormx2> angel12: yeah, been searching for a while
[09:09] <lhds> when i sudo module-assistant prepare,update ||| sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx it loads the newer vers of the driver the one i removed the .debs from synaptic
[09:09] <lhds> how to make it understand that i want to load the older version?
[09:09] <sethk> angel12, did you try using sudo?
[09:09] <Tonren> Vicious_Blayd: I've been working with Photoshop for 7 years.  GIMP does not have Photoshop's functionality - not even GIMPShop.  I'm a graphic designer, and I don't have time to re-learn my tool.  I NEED Photoshop.  :\
[09:09] <michael003> hc^: By access, do you mean read access or write access?
[09:09] <angel12> sethk, same error
[09:09] <kleedrac> Tonren: It's a wine variant (costs a bit) which is designed for MS Office, IE, Adobe products :D
[09:09] <hc^> michael003: read-access.
[09:09] <hc^> not write. i tried :p
[09:09] <Tonren> kleedrac: That sounds like a great idea.  I'll google it.
[09:09] <michael003> That's normal
[09:09] <kleedrac> Tonren: http://www.codeweavers.com/
[09:10] <eyequeue> hc^, think for a second .... you could probably NOT see /root/*, you could see the files that testuser could see .... hint: that is NOT just /home/testuser/*
[09:10] <michael003> hc^: Most of the files on the system have global read access, so all users can access them.
[09:10] <sethk> angel12, I'm thinking that you have to build the driver for the tablet before it will let you build the one for the pen
[09:10] <eyequeue> hc^, have testuser do: "ls -l /root/*"
[09:11] <lhds> how?
[09:11] <angel12> sethk, i tried building the driver for my wlan earlier and i got the same error
[09:11] <lhds> tell me how
[09:11] <Talisker[w] > firefox won't open php files anymore
[09:11] <Talisker[w] > it just directs them to steem
[09:11] <sharperguy> hey how do u save my custom user information in xchat?
[09:11] <sethk> angel12, try creating the directory.
[09:11] <BeepAU> Tonren -- you know how to use wine? can you tell me how to change the language?
[09:11] <angel12> sethk, i just did, and now i get *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop.
[09:12] <hc^> eyequeue: @square:~$ ls -l /root/*
[09:12] <hc^> ls: /root/*: No such file or directory
[09:12] <lhds> how?  tell me how please
[09:13] <Tonren> BeepAU: Sorry... no idea
[09:13] <sethk> angel12, you probably have to do a kernel build in place to populate that tree.  it has to be the source for the kernel that is running, and have the same designation
[09:13] <Tonren> BeepAU: The language interface is pretty minimal. :\
[09:13] <eyequeue> hc^, looks like testuser can't see it :)
[09:13] <jivenix> how do i toggle the virtual desktops with the keyboard
[09:13] <compotatoj> ls -l /root
[09:13] <compotatoj> that doesn't work?
[09:13] <BeepAU> Tonren -- i only need to change to english
[09:13] <Tonren> BeepAU: I didn't know it was distributed in other languages
[09:14] <eyequeue> hc^, if you do it as your normal user, with sudo in front, you'll see :)
[09:14] <angel12> sethk, dangit
[09:14] <jivenix> how do i check the version number of a package
[09:14] <kleedrac> jivenix: CTRL+ALT+-> or CTRL+ALT+<-
[09:14] <jivenix> kleedrac, gracias
[09:14] <eyequeue> jivenix, dpkg -l foo
[09:14] <BeepAU> Tonren -- i tried to open a file and got this message; Sorry, this game requires your Windows language settings to be English. Please change the settings then run the game again. Apologies for any inconvenience.
[09:14] <kleedrac> jivenix: np
[09:14] <jivenix> eyequeue, thanks
[09:14] <msid> any programs similar to gnucash ?
[09:14] <Tonren> BeepAU: Oh... that's bizarre!  Hmmm
[09:14] <Tonren> msid: Howcome you don't like gnucash? (sorry to be obnoxious - don't know of any others)
[09:15] <msid> Tonren: the interface probably
[09:16] <RetLaw> Hi, I'm new to Ubunti and installing Ubuntu Server 6.06. I have a problem. Someone willing to help me out ?
[09:16] <Tonren> RetLaw: You can just go ahead and ask, dude.  :)
[09:17] <ripper> ya know, i am still yet to find a 6.06LTS desktop iso that works
[09:17] <ripper> so i just install 5.10 and upgrade
[09:17] <eyequeue> ripper, 6.06.1
[09:17] <ripper> ill wait till its actually released, i dont like beta stuffs
[09:18] <eyequeue> ripper, 6.06.1 has the fixed desktop iso, for 6.06 you have to use the alternate cd :/
[09:18] <eyequeue> ripper, 6.06.1 is not beta, it is released
[09:18] <lhds> (10:09:05) lhds: when i sudo module-assistant prepare,update ||| sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx it loads the newer vers of the driver the one i removed the .debs from synaptic
[09:18] <lhds> (10:09:05) lhds: how to make it understand that i want to load the older version?
[09:18] <RetLaw> I have a LAN connected to the Internet through IPCOP. As soon the Ubuntu Server is connected to the LAN DNS-resolution seems to get messed up. None of the pc's can connect anymore to new websites. When already on a website, clicking for pages works. So I assume it's DNS-related ?
[09:18] <eyequeue> ripper, it also has about 300 bug fixes on the cd
[09:19] <eyequeue> ripper, you might be thinking of edgy, 6.10
[09:19] <BeepAU> does anyone know how to change the language in wine? please help
[09:19] <gt500> hello
[09:19] <gt500> can anyone help me
[09:19] <jivenix> how do i restart x server
[09:19] <Vicious_Blayd> Yeah, about those bug fixes... Anyone know if the "Failed to start X server" bug related to ATI cards has been fixed in 6.06.1? More info on it here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/30284
[09:19] <gt500> i just reinstalled dapper, now f-spot and banshee crash at startup
[09:20] <Vicious_Blayd> jivenix, at the shell type "startx"
[09:20] <EmxBA> hi
[09:20] <EmxBA> i'm wondering what do you, ubuntu users, think about zenwalk distribution (check http://www.zenwalk.org)
[09:21] <jivenix> says its already running Vicious_Blayd
[09:21] <Vicious_Blayd> EmxBA, That depends. Will it work with my ATI card? :-P
[09:21] <EmxBA> which is it?
[09:21] <Vicious_Blayd> X800. Can't get Dapper to run with it.
[09:21] <EmxBA> VIcious_Blayd: it is based on Slackware
[09:21] <Vicious_Blayd> Ah. That bodes well, then.
[09:21] <eyequeue> ripper, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233444
[09:21] <jivenix> how do i stop and restart x
[09:21] <EmxBA> why not? you don't want to use vesa, you want ati?
[09:22] <EmxBA> jivenix: ctrl + alt + backspace
[09:22] <ripper> it seems i am doomed as far as voice chat and cams go for yahoo :(
[09:23] <Vicious_Blayd> Ripper, there's a linux version of Skype, isn't there? Will that work for you?
[09:23] <ripper> if i can view cams, and do voice chat with people using the standard yahoo client
[09:23] <jacky> how to create a new task for tasksel?
[09:24] <ripper> gaim-vv wont let me view cams or do voice
[09:24] <EmxBA> anyone? what about zenwalk?
[09:24] <Vicious_Blayd> Hmm.
[09:24] <ripper> nor will gyachE it keeps telling me (gyachE) that i dont have pyGtk+-2 installed properly
[09:25] <ripper> any ideas?
[09:25] <Vicious_Blayd> I don't know, sorry.
[09:25] <Stalwart> !w32codecs
[09:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:26] <harisund> does anybody have experience running ntfs-3g on Amd64 Ubuntu? I have just installed Ubuntu-64 and want to write into my NTFS harddisk.
[09:26] <ripper> !yahoo voice
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yahoo voice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <ripper> !yahoo
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yahoo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <compotatoj> harisund, yeah, i was able to do that
[09:26] <Shekinah> hi
[09:26] <compotatoj> harisund, only using ntfscp but not mounting it as rw
[09:26] <compotatoj> harisund, i believe you can though
[09:26] <jivenix> hey!
[09:26] <jivenix> wth was that alt+control+backspace crap
[09:27] <harisund> compotatoj what is ntfscp? something other than the latest ntfs-3g that I read about somewhere?
[09:27] <lhds>  when i sudo module-assistant prepare,update ||| sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx it loads the newer vers of the driver the one i removed the .debs from synaptic     how to make it understand that i want to load the older version?
[09:27] <EmxBA> jivenix: you killed X :P
[09:27] <ripper> jivenix that kills the X server :P
[09:27] <EmxBA> jivenix: ctrl + alt + backspace?
[09:27] <jivenix> what is the x server
[09:27] <jivenix> anyhow
[09:27] <ripper> heh
[09:27] <ripper> !xserver
[09:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:27] <compotatoj> harisund, all i did was downloaded a bunch of ntfs things from the repos and then you get the command ntfscp
[09:27] <ripper> !X11
[09:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about X11 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:27] <EmxBA> !X
[09:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about X - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:27] <EmxBA> brb
[09:27] <harisund> compotatoj so you haven't actually written into it yet?
[09:28] <lhds> help?
[09:28] <Ackeubu_> hey i need to install a newer version of fluxbox. I got the .deb package form the fluxbox website. how would I install it? and how does it affect apt-get?
[09:28] <EmxBA> juvenix: In computing, the X Window System (commonly X11 or X) provides windowing for bitmap displays. It provides the standard toolkit and protocol to build graphical user interfaces (GUI) on Unix, Unix-like operating systems, and OpenVMS  almost all modern operating systems support it.
[09:29] <Vicious_Blayd> Also, it hates ATI cards. :-P
[09:29] <harisund> Also, is there a fglrx support on AMD64? What repos do I need to add for that?
[09:29] <EmxBA> LOL
[09:30] <protocol2> thank god I have an nvidia card
[09:30] <ripper> anyone got pygtk installed?
[09:30] <damo22> i just wish my laptop had nvidia
[09:30] <Rabidpoobear> where should I go for a good comparison of the different linux distros?
[09:30] <RetLaw> Hi, I'm new to Ubunti and installing Ubuntu Server 6.06. I have a problem. Someone willing to help me out ?
[09:30] <compotatoj> harisund, i have, just haven't mounted it as read/write but i think you can
[09:30] <EmxBA> damo22: aaah, i have intel on my laptop, XGL works cool :P
[09:30] <compotatoj> harisund, ntfscp allows me to copy files to ntfs
[09:31] <harisund> compotatoj ok! I will have a look .. 
[09:31] <damo22> EmxBA i have intel based board but ati card in the slot, bios doesnt switch it off properly
[09:31] <EmxBA> damo22: i just have intel chip on motherboard and intel intergrated gpu :P
[09:32] <EmxBA> 64 MBs which get stolen from my RAM :(
[09:32] <damo22> EmxBA maybe i should open up my laptop and remove the ati card
[09:32] <bienve> hi all
[09:32] <damo22> EmxBA probably work better with onboard intel video
[09:32] <bienve> i need deb the engage for dapper !!
[09:32] <EmxBA> damo22: heh, does it work with ati in it?
[09:33] <damo22> EmxBA not really, cant get accellerated opengl
[09:33] <gt500> are banshee and f-spot broke for someone?
[09:33] <rast4_> If I updated my sources list and then I install BitchX from Synaptic, where does it install BX to?
[09:33] <EmxBA> damo22: and what do you use now? vesa? ati?
[09:33] <bienve> somebody has deb for engage ????
[09:33] <damo22> EmxBA i use "ati"
[09:34] <EmxBA> ok
[09:34] <EmxBA> bienve? engage?
[09:34] <bienve> yep
[09:34] <damo22> EmxBA i have firegl 9000
[09:34] <EmxBA> :S
[09:34] <EmxBA> damo22: i have intel 82845G :P
[09:35] <RetLaw> I have a LAN connected to the Internet through IPCOP. As soon the Ubuntu Server is connected to the LAN DNS-resolution seems to get messed up. None of the pc's can connect anymore to new websites. When already on a website, clicking for pages works. So I assume it's DNS-related ? What can I do ? Any ideas ?
[09:35] <bienve> EmxBA:  Engage: Its a OSX style Icon bar. Much like the one for gDesklets, but its not a desklet and its should be more stable..
[09:35] <EmxBA> RetLaw: /etc/resolv.conf?
[09:35] <EmxBA> bienve: ok :S
[09:35] <damo22> EmxBA i have intel 828555PM chipset
[09:35] <EmxBA> heh ;)
[09:35] <damo22> one less 5
[09:36] <damo22> EmxBA not sure if gpu is built in
[09:36] <Wiseguy> hey guys how do i make xmms my application of choice for mp3 rather than totem?
[09:36] <RetLaw> Emxba: don't know, installed Ubuntu Server out of the box
[09:36] <ripper> i keep getting this error, can someone help me fix it
[09:36] <Vicious_Blayd> Alright, one last time before I leave. Does anyone know if the "Failed to start X server" bug with ATI cards when using the live CD has been fixed in 6.06.1?
[09:36] <ripper> /usr/lib/python2.4/ihooks.py:172: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module gobject: This Python has API version 1012, module gobject has version 1011.
[09:36] <ripper>   return imp.load_dynamic(name, filename, file)
[09:36] <ripper> You do not have PyGtk-2 properly installed.
[09:36] <Vicious_Blayd> More info on the bug here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/30284
[09:36] <protocol2> EmxBA, are you trying to get 3d acceleration running for your intel video?
[09:37] <ripper> can anyone help me with this
[09:37] <jenda> Firefox doesn't play any sounds in videos - other than that, my sound works great. Any ideas?
[09:37] <ripper> please.
[09:37] <damo22> i thought the R250s were well supported
[09:38] <EmxBA> protocol2: erm, no, how-
[09:38] <EmxBA> *?
[09:38] <EmxBA> i have xgl on it
[09:39] <damo22> im waiting for an alsa bugfix so my spdif interface will work :P
[09:39] <protocol2> I got my intel video card running
[09:39] <protocol2> hang on
[09:39] <EmxBA> protocol2: can you help me?
[09:39] <protocol2> yeah hold up
[09:39] <goblyn_> is there any way to get .rar support?
[09:39] <protocol2> give me aminute
[09:39] <EmxBA> protocol2: ok
[09:39] <stef_laves>  !w32codecs
[09:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:40] <Rabidpoobear> ripper: what's up?
[09:40] <Rabidpoobear> ripper: never mind, I can't help. sorry.
[09:41] <ripper> heh
[09:41] <EmxBA> protocol2: ok, my xorg.conf is on http://paste.uni.cc/9320
[09:41] <jacky> how to add Task field to Packages after dpkg-scanpackages create Packages file?
[09:43] <mainer> bienve:    http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146173&highlight=engage
[09:44] <Goblyn> does anyone know how to get .rar support for Dapper?
[09:44] <coolaid> prey
[09:44] <mainer> Automatix
[09:44] <compotatoj> Goblyn, Automatix
[09:44] <compotatoj> damn you beat me haha
[09:44] <mainer> lol
[09:47] <protocol2> EmxBA, check out this link....http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[09:47] <Goblyn> alright, next question, is there any way to hide inactive programs running in the task bar thing?
[09:47] <EmxBA> protocol2:ok, brb
[09:47] <protocol2> that should help you get you intel card going...
[09:48] <EmxBA> i just need to download dri?
[09:48] <protocol2> yeah
[09:48] <protocol2> it also might be in synaptic too...so you might browse around too
[09:48] <EmxBA> ok
[09:48] <protocol2> but if not look for it in the forums
[09:49] <todd> hey.
[09:50] <EmxBA> hi
[09:50] <todd> whats been goin on in here...lol
[09:50] <todd> looks dead
[09:50] <orasis1> Goblyn, you can always right click - and send them to another desktop.. well if you are on XUbuntu ;)
[09:50] <EmxBA> todd: not dead :)
[09:50] <protocol2> it is
[09:50] <todd> Ah.
[09:50] <rast4_> anyone know whjere BitchX would install to using Synaptic?
[09:50] <orasis1> Its 3am..
[09:51] <orasis1> Rast, try the search feature
[09:51] <EmxBA> it's 09:51:00 at my time :P
[09:51] <Thunderpants> rast4, /usr/lib?
[09:51] <orasis1> ;D
[09:51] <rast4_> checking..
[09:51] <todd> Wonder if there is a way to send windows from one desktop to another in KDE ... but have it leave the last desktops taskbar like it does in gnome.
[09:51] <todd> ... dont have much screen real estate.
[09:52] <rast4_> not there :(
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> rast4_: dpkg -L bitchx
[09:52] <rast4_> says it is in there
[09:52] <rast4_> ty, how can I get it to the desktop?
[09:52] <orasis1> Rast, you could always get an rpm - put it home, alien -packname / it will *usually* convert it into a debian package that works with ubuntu
[09:53] <necrotux> nas
[09:53] <lhds> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of fglrx-kernel-2.6.17.7:
[09:53] <lhds>  fglrx-kernel-2.6.17.7 depends on xorg-driver-fglrx (= 8.27.10-1)      how to fix the dependency problem?
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> create a shortcut for it -- use the alacarte menu editor
[09:54] <Ackeubu_> Hey i have a dependency issue with the new fluxbox .deb package, which I am trying to install maually with dpkg. there are three fauly dependencies including libc6 and others. how do I solve them? should I install them too even if libc6 is availible as an ubuntu version?
[09:54] <rast4_> ok let me try
[09:54] <Jivemonkey> why cant i log in as root!
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> !root > Jivemonkey
[09:54] <EmxBA> protocol2: ok
[09:54] <Jivemonkey> who got my root password!
[09:54] <necrotux> Jivemonkey, sudo passwd
[09:55] <EmxBA> protocol2: i've downloaded everything from DRI cvs server
[09:55] <Jivemonkey> necrotux, gracias
[09:55] <necrotux> dnd
[09:55] <protocol2> EmxBA, ok there might be instructions that go with it
[09:55] <protocol2> look around
[09:55] <lhds> ackedubu what did you do ?
[09:55] <EmxBA> maybe on http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building?
[09:56] <mainer> rast4: sudo updatedb,when done, type locate -i bitchx
[09:57] <Jivemonkey> i went through this xgl setup thing but i got no xgl
[09:57] <todd> Isnt there a search indexing  deal for linux ... like google desktop, or spotlight ... think its called beagle. but...
[09:57] <Jivemonkey> anyone know of a newer xgl setup instructions
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> Jivemonkey: #ubuntu-xgl
[09:57] <Jivemonkey> newest
[09:57] <Jivemonkey> nice
[09:57] <rast4_> thanks mainer
[09:57] <EmxBA> protocol2: can you help me on private?
[09:57] <slacker_nl> todd: its called beagle
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> todd: add the search applet to your panel.
[09:57] <Ackeubu_> lhds: huum i didnt do nothing. but i tried to do sudo dpkg -i fluxbox.new.package.deb and then i was told i miss some dependencies.
[09:57] <todd> ah.
[09:58] <todd> See, I tried that on my other laptop at home... but this was in gnome.
[09:58] <Jivemonkey> how do i roll back all changes made in the last thirty minutes
[09:58] <protocol2> ok hold up
[09:58] <todd> Seemed like it couldnt find anything and it took forever, and I let it index overnight.
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> Jivemonkey: retrace your steps, there is no automated way to do it.
[09:58] <minerale> what can I use to extract the files in a .iso file?
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> todd: there are some beagle plugins in the repos, might want to give it a try.
[09:59] <todd> repos? ..err like apt-get ?
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> minerale: you can mount it, or you can right click on it, and extract the contents.
[09:59] <lhds> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of fglrx-kernel-2.6.17.7:
[09:59] <lhds>  fglrx-kernel-2.6.17.7 depends on xorg-driver-fglrx (= 8.27.10-1)    how to fix that? is it a link i have to delete somewhere?
[09:59] <compotatoj> minerale, file roller
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> todd: yes.
[09:59] <nalpha> guys how to mount floppy disk? what should i type?
[09:59] <todd> I am in Kubuntu ... there isnt a synaptic manager like there is with the gnome install.
[09:59] <EmxBA> yes there us
[09:59] <EmxBA> *is
[09:59] <EmxBA> adept
[09:59] <todd> ... but its better to use apt-get anyways, yea?
[09:59] <EmxBA> yes
[10:00] <slacker_nl> todd: I would advide aptitude (its better with dependencies)
[10:00] <necrotux> fyrestrtr, usa los sources se edgy solo para eso a ver si te vale
[10:00] <slacker_nl> advise*
[10:00] <rast4_> I'm unsure of how to use the alacarte menu editor really
[10:00] <HeXiOn> hello. I have a problem with Enemy Territory. Have tried many things but still has no sound :(  The error I take is "/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" Any help?
[10:00] <Ackeubu_> lhds: I would isntall 2.6.18 manuelt. that would make it work i think
[10:00] <todd> so sudo apt-get install aptitude ?
[10:00] <Jivemonkey> how do i find out what video card i have
[10:00] <Madpilot> rast4, it's fairly straightforward - what're you trying to do, exactly?
[10:00] <minerale> fyrestrtr: how do I mount it ?
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> necrotux: ermm, I only speak English.
[10:00] <slacker_nl> todd: no, aptitude in stead of apt-get
[10:00] <gekko`> todd: why not use adept?
[10:00] <rast4_> Madpilot: create a shortcut to BitchX
[10:00] <rast4_> on my desktop
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> minerale: sudo mount -o loop foo.iso /some/location
[10:01] <todd> ... think I did use it a few hours ago, but I wasnt sure if it was able to access the same things that everyone else could.
[10:01] <necrotux> fyrestrtr, sources of edgy
[10:01] <slacker_nl> todd: aptitude is already installed
[10:01] <todd> oh.
[10:01] <Madpilot> rast4_, on your desktop, or in the menu? Different things - alacarte isn't used for desktop launchers
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> necrotux: #ubuntu+1
[10:01] <OPTiCO> Jivemonkey: "lspci | grep VGA"
[10:01] <necrotux> XD
[10:01] <rast4_> maddox: menu would be fine then
[10:01] <todd> Hey, lol I just started it in terminal.
[10:01] <rast4_> madpi: err that was to you
[10:01] <rast4_> madpilot
[10:01] <magneticubuntu> cu guys
[10:01] <rast4_> I would like it to the menu then
[10:01] <compotatoj> maddox, are you really maddox? lol
[10:02] <protocol2> EmxBA, arent you going to type in the private chat window?
[10:02] <EmxBA> ok
[10:03] <Madpilot> rast4, start alacarte, select the sub-menu you want the thing to be in (Internet, I guess), then File->New Entry
[10:04] <rast4_> ty Madpilot
[10:04] <EmxBA> protocol2: i am typing in the private chat window but you are not answering :(
[10:05] <fyrestrtr> you need to have a registered nick in order to send and receive private messages
[10:05] <cry0gen> sucks
[10:05] <cry0gen> ubuntuforums.org keeps going up/down for me
[10:06] <todd> How do I see if I have IPv6 disabled?
[10:06] <Madpilot> cry0gen, you and everyone else, it seems.
[10:07] <nilesh892003> hello friends ,i have ubuntu with windows xp after the installation of ubuntu in my computer my windows xp takes 10 to 15 min to boot in my hard disk 1st partion is ext3 2nd is swap and 3rd is ntfs,can this problem is due to partion problem or what anybody help me ?
[10:07] <protocol2> EmxBA, heading to my other machine hang on
[10:08] <EmxBA> ok ;)
[10:08] <Mattchewie> Question, I got a nvidia 7600GT card and I have noticed there is a nvidia-glx package.......I was wondering if anyone knows if its cool for me to use that driver or should I try to download a current rev of the driver from nvidia and go from there?
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> todd: ip a | grep inet6
[10:08] <rast4_> Madpilot: in Slackware I recall having to start BX with ./BitchX and some commands after, I'm not seeing a straightforward command like that in the list
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> Mattchewie: either one will work. I prefer the one from nvidia.com
[10:08] <Madpilot> rast4, I've got no idea, I've never used bitchx
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> nilesh892003: no, its not a partition problem.
[10:08] <rast4_> fair enough, thanks
[10:09] <eternalswd> is there any way to order the results of find?
[10:09] <Mattchewie> fyrestrtr, I take it the package is a bit older than whats current from nvid?
[10:09] <orasis1> Has anyone got "youtube" or "google video" working, without getting all choppy?, perhaps it is because we are stuck with an old flash ver??
[10:09] <fyrestrtr> Mattchewie: not sure to be honest.
[10:09] <Mattchewie> ...yeah to start bitchx it was BitchX........I always made and alias
[10:09] <Mattchewie> *and == an
[10:09] <rast4_> I'm not finding it
[10:09] <fyrestrtr> eternalswd: find something | sort
[10:09] <rast4_> I updated it with Synaptic
[10:09] <eternalswd> orasis1: I run firefox through wine with flash 9 and it works fine for me.
[10:10] <eternalswd> fyrestrtr, thanks
[10:10] <Mattchewie> fyrestrtr, isn't there some wiki or forum how to on how to install the nvid drivers via the nvid binary?
[10:10] <orasis1> Eternal, Ram?
[10:10] <todd> fyrestrtr: that didnt produce anything.
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> !nvidia > Mattchewie
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> todd: means its disabled.
[10:10] <todd> oh. wo.
[10:10] <todd> woo*
[10:10] <Mattchewie> fyrestrtr, bless you lol
[10:10] <nilesh892003> hello friends ,i have ubuntu with windows xp after the installation of ubuntu in my computer my windows xp takes 10 to 15 min to boot in my hard disk 1st partion is ext3 2nd is swap and 3rd is ntfs,can this problem is due to partion problem or what anybody help me ? or suggest me what is the problem coz this problem is came after the installation of ubuntu i think ubuntu and windows xp in dual is not compatiblek..77777777'
[10:11] <orasis1> Oh yes last question, when I change my driver from "ati" to "radeon" in xorg.conf - is "Radeon" with a capital "R" or just "r"?
[10:11] <todd> OMFG LOL
[10:11] <todd> utorrent going so much faster now
[10:11] <OPTiCO> orasis1: radeon
[10:11] <EmxBA> nilesh892003: try #winblows :D rofl
[10:11] <todd> since i disabled ipv6 and rebooted.
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> nilesh892003: no, that's not the problem. It has nothing to do with partition types. Its probably because Windows now has less space to run. Try defragging Windows.
[10:11] <EmxBA> ough blah :/
[10:11] <RichEd> jello
[10:12] <orasis1> alright
[10:12] <orasis1> lets give this a shot
[10:12] <EmxBA> protocol2: ok
[10:13] <jivenix> any of you guys running xgl?
[10:13] <EmxBA> protocol2: i can't install dri :( :X
[10:13] <EmxBA> jivenix: me :P
[10:13] <jivenix> is it the greatest thing ever?
[10:13] <todd> I was playing with the kororaa xgl live cd earlier.
[10:13] <jivenix> as far as eye candy goes?
[10:13] <eternalswd> nilesh892003, your Windows partition is third? did you install it after ubuntu?
[10:13] <EmxBA> jivenix: yes ! :P
[10:13] <todd> It needs theme support.
[10:13] <todd> but yea lol
[10:13] <jivenix> i knew it!
[10:13] <todd> few things i dont like bout it
[10:13] <todd> like the ...expose like deal.
[10:13] <jivenix> like what
[10:13] <EmxBA> maybe windows vista will be as good as xgl :x but....
[10:13] <todd> it makes the windows too small
[10:13] <EmxBA> xgl rulez! :D
[10:13] <jivenix> what kind of hardware were you running
[10:13] <RichEd> firefox & evolution seems to be shutting down on me occastionally - overnight ... do any of the ubuntu "automatic upgrades" force a shutdown when I am not looking ?
[10:13] <todd> should make them as large as possible (fill the screen)
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> RichEd: not of the system, no.
[10:14] <EmxBA> jivenix: intel 82845g intergrated gpu
[10:14] <todd> dont make the damn windows smaller than you have to
[10:14] <Madpilot> todd & others - #ubuntu-xgl for XGL chat, please
[10:14] <todd> i like the alt tab effects.
[10:14] <ripper> anyone know why i cant do voice with gaim-vv or when i try to view cams all i see is a green bird?
[10:14] <EmxBA> jivenix: on notebook :D
[10:14] <EmxBA> yeah ;)
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> todd: they are still working on it, its beta software.
[10:14] <todd> hooray, i got called on.
[10:14] <todd> i know its beta
[10:14] <EmxBA> and this pause button :P
[10:14] <jivenix> nice!
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> ripper: a green bird?
[10:14] <RichEd> thanks fyrestrtr ... wonder why it happens then ... any guesses ?
[10:14] <jivenix> i'm working on installing it now
[10:14] <ripper> yes a green bird
[10:14] <jivenix> i cant wait
[10:14] <compotatoj> ripper, maybe the person is playing a prank on you and they just are holding up a pic of a green bird
[10:14] <ripper> umm no
[10:14] <compotatoj> ripper, ohhhh... lol that is the adium logo
[10:14] <todd> Im going to wait until XGL ... isnt beta anymore, thats why I used the Live CD.
[10:15] <todd> anyways.
[10:15] <compotatoj> ripper, for mac os x
[10:15] <ripper> how can i fix this ?
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> RichEd: Wild guesses sure, educated guesses, nope :)
[10:15] <ripper> and how do i do voice?
[10:15] <edwin> hello is it hard to set up xgl for ubunutu?
[10:15] <OPTiCO> EmxBA: You're running xgl on an intel-chip? Wouldn't aiglx be faster?
[10:15] <jivenix> so far its going smoothly
[10:15] <jivenix> would it optico!?
[10:15] <jivenix> should i do aiglx instead
[10:15] <compotatoj> is aiglx only for amd?
[10:15] <compotatoj> i mean
[10:15] <edwin> hi OPTiCO
[10:15] <compotatoj> ati*
[10:16] <OPTiCO> edwin: hi ;)
[10:16] <edwin> where can i get the ubuntu distro
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> !webcam > ripper
[10:16] <todd> This is irritating ....... I dont like how the virtual desktops arent taking the programs taskbar names with them to their own taskbar....
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> !download > edwin
[10:16] <edwin> i need to uninstall suse and install ubuntu how do i do that?
[10:16] <ripper> my cam is installed
[10:16] <usabatch> hello, i'm trying to run an X based program contained in an nfs mounted directory.  it has the ff error: "Error: Can't open display: localhost:0.0" please help.
[10:16] <ripper> thats not what im talking about
[10:16] <edwin> will ubuntu eat suse?
[10:16] <OPTiCO> jivenix: in my experience aiglx is a LOT faster on intel chips
[10:16] <todd> edwin ... heh, u can just... reformat the whole HDD.
[10:16] <compotatoj> edwin, you could format over the partition
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> edwin: download the ubuntu install cd, and just follow the instructions.
[10:16] <ripper> im talking about i cant view anyones cam, nor send mine with gaim-vv
[10:16] <edwin> no i need my xp todd
[10:17] <edwin> i cant do that
[10:17] <todd> Oh.
[10:17] <orasis1> :O It did not crash into the fiery pits of hell like it did with flgrfx (or whatever the ati prop version is called) :)
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> ripper: sounds like something you should take up with gaim-vv
[10:17] <airg> i have a usb printer. no matter if it is on or off, either when i boot or when i am logged in my desktop, if i connect it to any usb port, my system freezes. any ideas what could be causing this or what can i do to solve this problem?
[10:17] <edwin> ok
[10:17] <todd> Yea, I wanted to keep XP on here just in case something wouldnt work.. but ... XP was having issues and it wouldnt let me partition ....
[10:17] <ripper> i installed it from source
[10:17] <ripper> let me rm the dang thing
[10:17] <todd> ... so I was like screw it and erased XP.
[10:17] <nalpha> what flopy disk file system?
[10:17] <todd> But ... good thing all my media and flash player (which was what i was worried about) worked fine.
[10:17] <VisezTrance> i'm tring to install xubuntu on a p3 600 mhz machine with 128 ram. the installation hangs after a few minutes. probably because it's out of ram. is there any way i can do a text install ?
[10:18] <todd> now got wine working, and utorrent
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> VisezTrance: use the alternate install cd.
[10:18] <VisezTrance> what `alternate` install cd ?
[10:18] <VisezTrance> xubuntu has only one
[10:18] <loma> lol, where is the default download folder for ktorrent?
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> VisezTrance: there is a desktop cd, and an alternate cd. Use the alternate cd, install the base system, then, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:19] <VisezTrance> oh.. right! remembered.. i'dd download it now
[10:19] <sethk> VisezTrance, why do you think it is out of ram?
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> loma: /tmp I think
[10:19] <orasis1> I have 64 megs of RAM and Xubuntu install / function works correct for me
[10:19] <loma> fyrestrtr, thanks
[10:19] <VisezTrance> many thanks
[10:19] <todd> freakin hate ktorrent.
[10:19] <todd> tooooooo slow.
[10:20] <todd> and always stalls
[10:20] <ripper> what repository do i need to get gaim-vv ?
[10:20] <ripper> cause the install from source thing just didnt cut it
[10:20] <Madpilot> !info gaim-vv
[10:20] <ubotu> Package gaim-vv does not exist in dapper
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> gaim-vv is not available in ubuntu. It has been merged with the main gaim branch.
[10:20] <orasis1> I like AZ for torrents, its big.. but sometimes it feels good just to load a massive program into the little mem I have on this machine, kind of makes you feel macho :D
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> use amsn or ekiga if you need to do video chatting.
[10:21] <ripper> im more worried about voice
[10:21] <loma> how can I use the filebrowser as root?
[10:21] <compotatoj> !googletalk
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about googletalk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <compotatoj> damn
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> ripper: use ekiga for voice, or try your luck with skype.
[10:22] <todd> I have Gaim 2.0.0 beta 3.
[10:22] <ripper> well they work with yahoo im ?
[10:22] <todd> That is... newest one?
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> no
[10:22] <gekko`> loma: gksu
[10:22] <todd> How old..
[10:22] <loma> gekko`, ?
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> that 'no' was to ripper
[10:22] <todd> I want to get the best IM client.
[10:22] <gekko`> loma: gksu <application>
[10:22] <ripper> blah
[10:22] <todd> Don't really care for Gaim. Anything like it? ... or at least get latest Gaim... maybe.
[10:23] <orasis1> Well I just found a bug in the flash install for synaptic, it does not automatically open the terminal window to let you accept the license agreement - the one you download and install from macromedia itself does... strange.
[10:23] <compotatoj> todd, gaim rules
[10:23] <ragz> yeah the latest gaim is nice
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> orasis1: it does it here.
[10:23] <todd> maybe new version works better with direct connect (aim) and ..file transfers.
[10:23] <rast4_> when you download something from the repository and update the database, does anything for the programs you get need to be compiled or do they come pre-compiled?
[10:23] <todd> ...wait, is there webcam support in latest gaim?
[10:23] <orasis1> Now, lets see if I can actually get any sound from flash.. could not last time..
[10:24] <orasis1> well without a small modification of my firefox conf's :D
[10:24] <Talisker[w] > how do I restart apache on ubuntu server?
[10:24] <unfun> How do I create file named bad_list in /etc/modprobe.d containing this line:
[10:24] <unfun>  	Code: 	alias net-pf-10 off ? I'm a totaly noob in ubuntu
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> Talisker[w] : sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> !blacklist > unfun
[10:25] <sethk> Talisker[w] , sudo apachectl restart
[10:25] <orasis1> "p
[10:25] <orasis1> Wow, the sound works this time..
[10:25] <Talisker[w] > I get this error on both:
[10:25] <Talisker[w] > http://pastebin.ca/130992
[10:25] <sid_> how to upgrade to kubuntu 6.06.01 LTS
[10:25] <unfun> fyrestart i don't understand how?
[10:26] <sid_> how to upgrade to kubuntu 6.06.01 LTS
[10:26] <sethk> Talisker[w] , some other program has the socket open
[10:26] <sethk> Talisker[w] , try this:  sudo netstat -nap |grep 80
[10:26] <sethk> Talisker[w] , or  lsof -i | grep 80
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> sid_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:26] <Talisker[w] > tcp...
[10:27] <Talisker[w] > lsof generated nothing
[10:27] <Talisker[w] > netstat gave me tcp, but that shouldn't be a problem
[10:27] <orasis1> What is the difference between the "ati" and "radeon" drivers anyways?
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> did you install apache from source and then from repos?
[10:27] <Talisker[w] > nope
[10:27] <Talisker[w] > from repos and repos only
[10:27] <sethk> Talisker[w] , what is the name of the program in the netstat output?
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> orasis1: the kinds of cards they support.
[10:27] <sid_> ok :) thanks alot
[10:28] <mitrovarr> radeon does the first-gen radeons.  I have to use it.
[10:28] <Talisker[w] > apache
[10:28] <sethk> Talisker[w] , it is a problem.
[10:28] <sethk> Talisker[w] , try two steps:   apachectl stop
[10:28] <minerale> Hi, coud someone point me to some good documentation on why /tmp should be on a separate partition ?
[10:28] <sethk> Talisker[w] , with sudo, sorry
[10:28] <sethk> Talisker[w] , then try the start again.
[10:28] <loma> gekko`, can't figure out how it works? where do i find the aplication name of the filebrowser?
[10:28] <orasis1> Fyre, indeed radeon is also quicker its seems, flash videos were so much more choppy just five minutes ago..
[10:28] <Talisker[w] > okie
[10:28] <sethk> Talisker[w] , after stop, run the netstat command again, to make sure nothing is listening on 80
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> Talisker[w] : ps aux | grep apache
[10:29] <sethk> loma, while it is running you should find it in the output of:   ps auxwww
[10:29] <mitrovarr> radeon does make accel (2d and 3d) work, but it's a tiny bit buggy
[10:29] <mitrovarr> I have some corrupted graphics under X
[10:29] <sethk> fyrestrtr, might be called httpd, not apache.  the netstat command is better because it will find any program listening on port 80
[10:29] <orasis1> Now if only I could find a good audio editor :( - perhaps anyone knows if Sound Forge or Cool edit function under wine?
[10:29] <mitrovarr> then again, I do have overheating issues
[10:30] <Talisker[w] > No matter what I do I don't seem to be able to get php to run on apache
[10:30] <JohnUK89> mitrovarr: overheating graphics cards often draw artifacts
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> sethk: its called apache
[10:31] <loma> sethk, don't know what to look 4? theres like 50 aplications, can't i grep anything?
[10:31] <mitrovarr> JohnUK89:  I know, that's why I mentioned it.  But I fixed the overheating (accidentally pulled out the fan cable, doh!) and it still does the artifacts.  I think they started around when I upgraded to 6
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> orasis1: tried audacity?
[10:31] <orasis1> Mitro, well so far so good - if it gets buggy i'll go back to "ati", im not a big games fan anyways, I only enjoy watching my youtube stuff though.. and the ati driver just cannot do it
[10:31] <mitrovarr> orasisl:  2d accel is pretty important and most people don't realize how much it helps
[10:31] <orasis1> Fyre, yes I have and Ardour - cannot paste vocals on top of the instrumentals.. not good for making songs
[10:32] <mitrovarr> orasisl: it also keeps opengl screensavers from melting your CPU into slag
[10:32] <mitrovarr> orasisl:  Good drivers, I mean
[10:32] <orasis1> But what I am thinking since I like Linux so much, is maybe i'll get a PII dedicated to windows + sound forge for song making
[10:32] <Talisker[w] > which is the main apache configuration file in ubuntu?
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> orasis1: there is another one that I tried, but I forget its name. It had all kinds of options on it.
[10:32] <mitrovarr> man, you should see an opengl screensaver try to go on a 333 k6 with no hardware accel.  Slideshow doesn't even BEGIN to describe it.
[10:33] <orasis1> Ardour possibly, looks like the best one so far - BUT I cannot figure out how to get JACK to sample in 41000 by default it is 48000, I am still reading the manual to figure out how to get that done...
[10:33] <loma> How can I use the graphic filebrowser as root?
[10:33] <mitrovarr> you mean nautilus?
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> orasis1: better go with a mac for that.
[10:33] <orasis1> Ioma, gksudo
[10:34] <mitrovarr> do 'sudo nautilus' in a console, or make an icon for 'gksudo nautilus'
[10:34] <orasis1> Fyre, Yeah well I would except I am not rich :P
[10:34] <loma> mitrovarr, yes
[10:34] <orasis1> Do NOT sudo graphical programs
[10:34] <orasis1> you may mess up your permissions
[10:34] <orasis1> Trust me I did, and it brought my whole system down - I had to re-install, get into a habit of gksudo for graphical apps ;)
[10:34] <mitrovarr> I've sudo'ed nautilus before and it didn't break anything obvious... but perhaps it's best to be careful
[10:35] <mitrovarr> I've had KDE sudoed apps break login before but I just had to fix a couple permissions in a console
[10:35] <orasis1> Mitro, yeah its always best to get good habits going :)
[10:35] <robmoore518> Can someone point me to documentation that will step me through upgrading directly from warty to dapper?
[10:35] <loma> mitrovarr, how do I make a icon for it?
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> !upgrade > robmoore518
[10:36] <mitrovarr> orasisl:  Does that only happen with sudo or gksudo too?  Because if it's just running them as root, it must be ok because tons of apps require sudo and are gksudoed on a fresh install
[10:37] <wthww> mmk, ever since i started using Ubuntu, i havent been able to burn .iso images correctly. they are corrupted, but it gets through the burn fine. any ideas what could causee it?
[10:37] <robmoore518> thanks fyre...so It's necessary to upgrade to breezy first?
[10:37] <orasis1> What libraries are needed to read decode MP4 properly in VLC? -
[10:37] <mitrovarr> loma:  Assuming it's a good idea, right-click on your background, do 'create launcher', name it what you want (Nautilus as Root), and put the command as 'gksudo nautilus' (no quotes).  You'll start in /root so be aware of that.
[10:38] <orasis1> Mitro, only sudo - I have never had problems with gksudo and graphical apps, that is the whole reason gksudo is there in the first place ;)
[10:38] <orasis1> But I am telling you if you sudo graphical apps too often, you are demanding trouble hehe
[10:39] <mitrovarr> orasisl:  I was under the impression that gksudo does the exact same thing as sudo, it just does it in a graphical window instead of a console
[10:39] <orasis1> Mitro, it does the same thing - in a different way
[10:40] <mitrovarr> I'm interested in what you mean
[10:40] <mitrovarr> can you explain that better?
[10:40] <orasis1> If you want to run something in X as root, ALWAYS use gksudo..
[10:40] <Flannel> mitrovarr: gksudo and sudo set up the environment differently, one is safer for graphical programs
[10:40] <mitrovarr> Flannel:  That's good to know.  But I'm really curious about the technical details.
[10:41] <orasis1> Mitro, the best that I can explain it is - sudo, breaks your X and gksudo lets it live, other then that I have no idea :P
[10:41] <loma> mitrovarr, thanks! I tryed that before whit just "sudo nautilus", just curious what the difference is? =P
[10:41] <mitrovarr> orasisl:  It's ok, I asked Flannel for the technical explanation anyway :-D
[10:41] <wthww>  anyone have problems with burning isos with the built in utility in ubuntu?
[10:42] <Feez> Could anyone explain me how to register on Freenode?
[10:42] <Flannel> mitrovarr: one writes things to your home dir, the other to root homedir, this is, certain applications.  When that happens, things get written as root, then the next time you go to run that same application as you, you can't read/edit the configuration files, because theyre owned by root
[10:42] <Flannel> mitrovarr: that's one problem caused, and the most common
[10:42] <wthww> ./msg nickserv regiter password email
[10:42] <corpsefeeder> i tried to install ubuntu onto my XP machine and I somehow killed my drive lol :) now my PC won't work till I get a new drive
[10:42] <wthww> Feez: /msg nickserv regiter password email
[10:42] <Feez> wthww thanks
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> its register, not regiter
[10:43] <orasis1> Alright for MP4, lets see if Libmp4 works..
[10:43] <mitrovarr> Flannel:  I imagined it was something along those lines.  That's what happened to me; I had a KDE app write it's little 'I'm here' file as root (can't think of what those are called) and it wouldn't let me log in.
[10:43] <wthww> FeeA:your welcome
[10:43] <todd> Hmm, virtual desktops actually becoming very useful on such a small screen lol
[10:43] <Flannel> mitrovarr: for kde, you can use kdesu, since gksudo is for gnome, obviously ;)
[10:43] <orasis1> corp, Did you try formatting your MBR?
[10:43] <todd> I like the window list app..
[10:43] <orasis1> Corp, you need to format your MBR most of the time - I doubt your hdd is literally "dead"
[10:43] <loma> lol, i really can't find a movie I downloaded whit ktorrent, its not in /tmp any ide?
[10:44] <Flannel> loma: its probably in your home dir
[10:44] <orasis1> Corp, try booting with a windows 98 disk and type format c: /u /mbr
[10:44] <corpsefeeder> no.. it really was tryly dead - i couldn't format it or fdisk it or partition it or anything
[10:44] <corpsefeeder> truly
[10:44] <mitrovarr> Flannel:  Do they both do the same thing?   Because I have tons of gnome apps and kde apps (a lot of gnome apps are pretty poor, alas) and I use gksudo for everything.
[10:44] <orasis1> Corp, you cannot format it from windows or partition until you rewrite the MBR ;)
[10:44] <orasis1> It will not ever notice you have a disk
[10:44] <mitrovarr> corpsefeeder:  If you eliminate all the other options, you could try a low level format
[10:44] <orasis1> even
[10:44] <corpsefeeder> then it started making these weird screeching sounds
[10:44] <buttercup|> hi
[10:45] <loma> Flannel, nope =S
[10:45] <Flannel> loma: what?
[10:45] <Flannel> loma: oh
[10:45] <wthww> corpsefeeder: use a dos bootdisk at do fdisk /mbr
[10:45] <buttercup|> is there any ubuntu-package or pl/php (postgresql) ?
[10:45] <orasis1> Corp, same thing happened to me - was as easy as - a windows 98 boot disk, format c: /u /mbr
[10:45] <mitrovarr> corpsefeeder:  ouch... but linux can't break a hard drive physically (or at least it won't happen by accident.)  Sounds like it just took that opportunity to die, if it's really physically dead.
[10:45] <orasis1> and fdisk /mbr
[10:45] <Flannel> mitrovarr: right, they both essentially do the same thing.  They use different libraries to write their windows.  I dont believe you'll run into any trouble using the 'wrong' one
[10:45] <slid3r> anyone have a hard time with cpan modules not installing to the proper directories?
[10:46] <robert_> are there ubuntu ports of the boost filesystem stuff?
[10:46] <mitrovarr> Flannel:  I had no idea that sudo and gksudo worked differently.  Thanks for the explanation... I wish everythink wasn't quite so complicated and intricate.
[10:46] <Jivemonkey> well here goes
[10:46] <Jivemonkey> see if xgl worked
[10:46] <robert_> yay
[10:46] <robert_> nevermind
[10:46] <orasis1> Alright so now I have sound for my MP4 video files, but really horrible video haha
[10:47] <Talisker[w] > whenever I try to load a php module [4 or 5]  I get "Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so: undefined symbol: unixd_config"
[10:47] <orasis1> Is there a diff between the google IPOD/mp4 and a regular one?, is that why my video is all.. jumbled? or is it my video codec
[10:47] <mitrovarr> my half-assed attempts to help people aside, I'm having a bit of a problem with Xubuntu.  I can't SSH to other machines, even if I can ping them and other computers on the network can ssh to them.  Ssh just fails silently.  Any ideas?
[10:48] <loma> how can I make a icon for k torrent? what to put in the "command" line?
[10:49] <mitrovarr> ktorrent, I think
[10:49] <Jivemonkey> it didn't work
[10:51] <hume> seems there is no acroread for ubuntu - is that right? I have problems reading a OO guide (http://documentation.openoffice.org/tutorials/cospa/Cospa_Calc_Tutorial.pdf) with kpdf, which feels strange
[10:52] <orasis1> OK :)
[10:52] <JohnUK89> hume: have you tried enabling multiverse and looking in aptitude? I think there is one
[10:52] <mitrovarr> yeah, I'm pretty sure there is
[10:53] <orasis1> In the future if you want to download google videos - you must install Libmp4v2-0, and then download the SONY PSP format ;) - they will run perfectly in VLC
[10:53] <ripper> ok, why is it that i cant view my own cam even with gaim-vv
[10:53] <hume> ah...yes, this is a amd64 machine
[10:53] <hume> seems to be only i386-versions of it...
[10:53] <mitrovarr> ripper:  on a side note, where'd you get gaim-vv?  Did it finally find its way into the repositories?
[10:54] <hume> ripper, tried amsn?
[10:54] <ripper> yeah my cam isnt supported by amsn
[10:54] <ripper> well kinda
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> !info acroread
[10:54] <ubotu> acroread: Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 22263 kB, installed size 53192 kB (Only available for i386)
[10:54] <ripper> but i got it from apt-get if thats what ya mean
[10:54] <mitrovarr> ok, thanks
[10:54] <Jivemonkey> how do i install graphics dirver for my intel 915GM/GSM
[10:54] <Jivemonkey> are they in the repos?
[10:54] <hume> fyrestrtr, yeah, but there seems to be no a64-version, you think I could use the i386?
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> Jivemonkey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Video
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> hume: in a chroot you could.
[10:55] <hume> fyrestrtr, how do you mean?
[10:55] <mitrovarr> ripper:  Are you sure your cam works with linux at all?
[10:55] <ripper> yes cause i've used it to take pictures
[10:56] <fyrestrtr> hume: there is a way to run 32 bit apps in 64 bit
[10:56] <mitrovarr> ripper:  is it a webcam?  Or a digital camera you're trying to use as a webcam that you've uploaded pictures with previously?
[10:56] <robert_> bah, why does my resolv.conf always revert to how it was when I installed the system?
[10:56] <ripper> webcam
[10:56] <mitrovarr> ripper:  ah, just asking because digital cameras that upload don't necessarily stream video even if they should
[10:57] <hume> fyrestrtr, you know about descriptions of that way? is there a howto or something?
[10:57] <corpsefeeder> anyone know how to make irc work in gaim? I added an account for IRC and it connects, but how do i join channels and stuff?
[10:57] <JohnUK89> corpsefeeder: use IRC commands
[10:57] <mopflite> corpsefeeder: /joing #channel etc
[10:58] <mopflite> corpsefeeder: /join (even)
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> hume: there is a way in the wiki. Its at the bottom of the RestrictedFormats entry
[10:58] <corpsefeeder> hmm... maybe it's just me then - I tried typing /join #ubuntu but it just hangs on me.
[10:58] <corpsefeeder> computer too slow maybe...
[10:59] <todd> How do I update gaim to its latest version.
[10:59] <todd> have beta 3..
[10:59] <Madpilot> corpsefeeder, the usual /join commands and such should work in gaim
[10:59] <johnlittle> http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/could_you_use_a_hundred_bucks
[11:00] <robert_> seriously- my resolv.conf shrugs off any modification I do to it within, say an hour, and reverts to how it was when I installed the system
[11:00] <Flannel> todd: you'd have to compile it yourself
[11:00] <todd> ... that worth doing? i mean is it simple?
[11:00] <Flannel> todd: shrug.  What features are you upgrading for?
[11:00] <robert_> wtf
[11:01] <todd> I just thought it would be good to have the latest version.
[11:01] <todd> Are there actually any more features...
[11:01] <jivenix> how do i uninstall something i installed using make install
[11:01] <icarus> any chances of getting a logitech webcam working?
[11:01] <Flannel> jivenix: delete all the files it installed
[11:01] <todd> err wtf
[11:02] <todd> looks like the site says i have latest gaim
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> !erbcams
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about erbcams - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <jivenix> ok
[11:02] <todd> So, which is the real ... latest one..
[11:02] <Flannel> jivenix: unless there's a make option for it.
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> !webcams
[11:02] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:02] <Flannel> todd: which site?
[11:02] <todd> http://gaim.sourceforge.net/index.php
[11:02] <Madpilot> todd, there is often a latest-stable and a latest-testing/unstable version of a program
[11:02] <todd> Like, nightly builds ect?
[11:04] <Madpilot> todd, that sort of thing, and some projects have distinct stable & bleeding-edge releases going at the same time
[11:04] <FleshSouffle> aha! it works now!
[11:04] <robert_> it's annyoing when I have to edit my system
[11:04] <todd> Ah. So, where would I find the latest? Just sourceforge... or...
[11:04] <loma> how to make an icon for ktorrent? what to put in the "command line"?
[11:05] <Flannel> todd: yeah, sourceforge hosts gaim
[11:05] <robert_> can *anybody* help me, here?
[11:05] <todd> .. anything in new version worth upgrading for?
[11:05] <ragz> yeah, it's just better
[11:05] <Flannel> todd: that's up to you.
[11:06] <corpsefeeder> i can join from gaim now woohoo! etc...
[11:06] <corpsefeeder> my computer must have just been going spac last time
[11:06] <fyrestrtr> !anybody
[11:06] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:08] <drew> When attempting to 'make install' ivtv I'm getting the error 'install: missing destination file operand ...'
[11:08] <drew> install: missing destination file operand after `/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/ivtv'
[11:08] <buttercup|> is there a way to automaticaly add a boot option (noapic) to every entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst (except the non-linux systems)?
[11:09] <Flannel> drew: sounds like a buggy makefile
[11:09] <ripper> ripper@ubuntu:~/spca5xx-20060501$ dmesg | grep Creative
[11:09] <ripper> [291157.282755]  drivers/usb/media/spca5xx/spca5xx-main.c: USB SPCA5XX camera found. Type Creative Instant P0620
[11:09] <ripper> ripper@ubuntu:~/spca5xx-20060501$
[11:09] <corpsefeeder> Me! me! me! I got a question!! is there any good scrabble games that will run on this?
[11:09] <drew> Flannel, it's doing ot for 0.4.5 and 0.4.4
[11:09] <Flannel> corpsefeeder: "scrabble" is the package name ;)
[11:10] <mitrovarr> So, anyone have any ideas why SSH and dependant utilities would fail silently instead of giving timeout messages or something?
[11:11] <mitrovarr> I try to connect and it just sits there without connecting or doing anything
[11:11] <ripper> ok, now camorama says the device isnt connected
[11:11] <mitrovarr> that machine can ping the target machine, and other machines can SSH to the target machine
[11:11] <robert_> can I get a version of libnotify  >= 0.4.2?
[11:12] <mitrovarr> it's xubuntu so I think I might be missing a dependancy
[11:12] <cry0gen> this sucks
[11:12] <cry0gen> ubuntu wont load ndiswrapper
[11:12] <Dimensions> hi ... im installing ubuntu on my  small but abit slower pcs ... 400 mhz they get installed fine but when i reboot they never boot .. ram is 256 and every thing else is fine but before installing i have to change VGA to minimum because with higher they dont give display .... what should i do to make it work ? is it coz of vga ? how i change it permanently ?
[11:12] <dapet_> I need a program for wieving DVD's on ubuntu, anyone know a good one?
[11:13] <ripper> ok, my cam is supported
[11:13] <Flannel> !tell Dimensions about fixres
[11:13] <fyrestrtr> !dvd > dapet_
[11:13] <shaantanu> hey dapt_ why dont u use VLC
[11:14] <loma> im just so disapointed, totem makes all my divx files out of sync (sound)
[11:14] <loma> is it possible to use VLC?
[11:14] <shaantanu> dapet I used VLC player from the universl repository i guess and i found it to be the best player ever
[11:14] <bragi> why shouldnt it?
[11:14] <Madpilot> loma, yes
[11:14] <Madpilot> !info vlc
[11:14] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[11:14] <shaantanu> playes almost all the goddammn formats on earth
[11:15] <xopher_> loma, tried both totem-gstreamer and totem-xine?
[11:15] <loma> xopher,  just installed something like ffmpeg (for the codec) not done anything else
[11:15] <mitrovarr> Anyone know why ssh wouldn't connect when it should?
[11:16] <ripper> ok i followed the guide, now it says my cam isnt connected when it is
[11:16] <cry0gen> i'm going to go nuts
[11:16] <corpsefeeder> i'm going to put a wireless network card in this machine soon.. am I right in thinking that the dlink DWL-G510 will work? I think I may have read somewhere that this model can be made to work with ubuntu?
[11:16] <cry0gen> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[11:16] <cry0gen> Error inserting ndiswrapper invalid arguement
[11:17] <linux_user400354> how come i cant get vmware server from the repos?
[11:18] <poningru> because they dont offer it
[11:18] <poningru> to ubuntu
[11:18] <linux_user400354> why not
[11:18] <orasis1> Does FLV video work for anyone else in VLC?
[11:18] <poningru> quick question guys who here has read the ubuntu weekly newsletter
[11:19] <shaantanu> **************************************hi ppl I am having a problem while using my HP 3420 with ubuntu can someone help me ??***************************************
[11:19] <linux_user400354> poningru: its not that the vmware company did not offer it to ubuntu. an ubuntu package maintainter has not put it in there.
[11:19] <loma> I don't get any audio in VLC =(((
[11:20] <shaantanu> loma make sure u have installed the esd plugin as well
[11:20] <loma> nope
[11:20] <loma> shaantanu, whats that?
[11:20] <shaantanu> so install the esd plugin as well
[11:20] <poningru> !audio
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <poningru> ...
[11:20] <shaantanu> u can find the plugin in universal repository
[11:20] <shaantanu> i guess the same place where u found vlc
[11:21] <poningru> shaantanu: please recomend alsa to people
[11:21] <orasis1> Poning, I have not..
[11:21] <poningru> !also
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about also - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <poningru> err
[11:21] <poningru> !alsa
[11:21] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:21] <poningru> orasis1: hmm ok thanks
[11:22] <loma> shaantanu, works, thanks a lot
[11:23] <shaantanu> u r welcome
[11:23] <orasis1> To remove packages, console - sudo apt-get remove package <-- correct?
[11:23] <michael003> orasis1: Yes.
[11:23] <shaantanu> !PRINTER
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about PRINTER - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <shaantanu> !printer
[11:23] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:24] <corpsefeeder> how do I trash these folders i accidently created with the padlock icon on the top right corners?
[11:24] <shaantanu> guys i m having a problem with using HP 3420 printer on my system ... plz help
[11:24] <shaantanu> guys i m having a problem with using HP 3420 printer on my system ... plz helpguys i m having a problem with using HP 3420 printer on my system ... plz help
[11:25] <dj_baggio> shaantanu: gnome, kde, xfce?
[11:25] <orasis1> Michael, ok
[11:25] <shaantanu> gnome
[11:25] <dj_baggio> no ideas :)
[11:25] <shaantanu> :)
[11:26] <dj_baggio> i';m kde user
[11:26] <shaantanu> so tell me abt KDE
[11:26] <[b] urk> shaantanu, whats the problem?
[11:26] <shaantanu> i dont think it has got anything to do wid gnome or kde
[11:26] <mitrovarr> it's rather like gnome, except that when you want to configure something, there's approximately 4 billion options
[11:26] <loma> whats the easyest program to burn dvd's whit ubuntu?
[11:27] <shaantanu> my printer will move the printer head and al when given command but nothing prints on the paper
[11:27] <mitrovarr> loma:  I favor k3b myself
[11:27] <jivenix> where is sources.list
[11:27] <jivenix> !
[11:27] <michael003> Jivemonkey: /etc/apt
[11:27] <Inferus> Hi all, my boss has done a fudged install of ubuntu, and has basically set a root account with a password of null. The only reason im not formatting it and reinstalling is because we need the disks to be in a raid array, the one where both discs are identical. Can anyone help please?
[11:27] <mitrovarr> shaantanu:  sure it's not just out of ink?
[11:27] <michael003> Sorry
[11:27] <Inferus> I want to install ubuntu with raid
[11:27] <michael003> jivenix: /etc/apt
[11:27] <loma> mitrovarr, k I will try it out, thanks
[11:27] <shaantanu> not out of ink works fine on my windows XP
[11:27] <brynk> how can i config xchat-gnome to show the user list and change those ugly popups?
[11:27] <Talisker[w] > how do I get startx to run on a display different then 0?
[11:28] <orasis1> It would be nice though in SYnaptic to have one list as to what you installed.. - cause after a while you tend to forget what you installed, and what was there by default especially libraries wise.. :(
[11:28] <mitrovarr> shaantanu:  Ah.  What shows up in system -> administration -> printing?
[11:29] <corpsefeeder> i was playing with system>administration>disks>partitions and change access path - now I got a whole bunch of folders in my home directory call "type name of new folder" which I can't delete - how do I trash them?
[11:29] <shaantanu> deskjet - 3420 ready
[11:29] <shaantanu> and deskjet - 3420 -1 ready
[11:29] <shaantanu> i configured it twice
[11:29] <mitrovarr> that's good.  What's the driver in the properties?
[11:29] <mitrovarr> I'd get rid of one lest it interfere
[11:29] <shaantanu> k did that
[11:30] <linux_user400354> what is the difference between a hostname and a domain name?
[11:30] <shaantanu> the driver will be :
[11:30] <Inferus> Can anyone help me install ubuntu with a raid array please?
[11:30] <shaantanu> hpijs (recommended) : HPLIP 0.9.7(suggested)
[11:31] <shaantanu> this is the default driver for my coonfig
[11:31] <mitrovarr> same as mine
[11:31] <mitrovarr> hmm
[11:31] <Inferus> Can anyone help me install ubuntu with a software raid array please?
[11:31] <corpsefeeder> i can't
[11:31] <corpsefeeder> but I could probably screw it up real good for you :)
[11:32] <Inferus> lol
[11:32] <mitrovarr> I'd go into 'connection' and make sure that's right... installing it twice might have put the second one onto the wrong interface
[11:32] <nalpha> guys i have installing nmap after installed how to execute nmap?
[11:32] <shaantanu> k i see only one printer there now
[11:32] <shaantanu> since i deleted one installation
[11:33] <corpsefeeder> how do I delete these damned folders? they all have locks on them
 go into the connections in properties and make sure it correspondes to your actual setup
[11:33] <shaantanu> pk
[11:33] <[b] urk> corpsefeeder, sudo rm Stupidfolder
[11:34] <[b] urk> corpsefeeder, sudo rm -rfd Stupidfolder
[11:34] <jivenix> sudo apt-get install linux-dri-modules-common linux-dri-modules-`uname -r`
[11:34] <linux_user400354> i screwed up the gnome menu. what is the command to set it back to the default? i had the command, but that was a long time ago.
[11:34] <jivenix> whats that mean
[11:34] <jivenix> 'uname -r'
[11:34] <cry0gen> bah to ndiswrapper
[11:34] <docta_v> jivenix: prints the kernel version
[11:34] <mitrovarr> so, no one knows why ssh would time out and fail when it shouldn't?
[11:34] <[b] urk> uname -r | cowsay
[11:35] <cry0gen> *why* on earth would it tell me invalid arguement when I modprobe it
[11:35] <cry0gen> :\
[11:35] <docta_v> haha wtf is cowsay
[11:35] <shaantanu> ya i found the prob
[11:35] <OPTiCO> [b] urk: that's a real classic
[11:35] <shaantanu> there its not showing my printer
[11:35] <[b] urk> apt-get install cowsay
[11:35] <[b] urk> OPTiCO, it is?
[11:35] <docta_v> mitrovarr: variety of problems... any errors in on the server logs? can you telnet to port 22 on the remote system?
[11:35] <OPTiCO> :p
[11:36] <mitrovarr> docta_v: I can ssh to the remote system with another computer on the LAN
[11:36] <_yodaa_> any familiar with the login system? I just installed ubuntu 6.06 on an ibook and it keeps asking me to change my password
[11:36] <[b] urk> docta_v, do: sudo apt-get install cowsay, uname -r | cowsay
[11:37] <_yodaa_> anyone*
[11:37] <docta_v> mitrovarr: telnet test the system you're on
[11:37] <[b] urk> _yodaa_, did you try changing your passwd??
[11:37] <_yodaa_> yeah, but it keep asking to change for it after that.
[11:37] <mitrovarr> docta_v:  it times out there, too
[11:38] <docta_v> does DNS work?
[11:38] <[b] urk> _yodaa_, did you try different passwords?
[11:38] <docta_v> [b] urk: heh, nice
[11:38] <mitrovarr> docta_v:  other computers on the net get 'connection refused' (since it's not running the daemon)
[11:38] <_yodaa_> maybe I should try a more complicated one? But on my workstation I have no probs
[11:38] <mitrovarr> docta_v:  Irrelevant, I'm using IPs directly on a lan
[11:38] <[b] urk> docta_v, i know :P
[11:38] <_yodaa_> year burk
[11:38] <[b] urk> ok i have no idea
[11:39] <docta_v> mitrovarr: so either your routing is broken or there is a firewall in the way
[11:39] <_yodaa_> I always get this message: "You are required to change your password immediately (root enforced)"
[11:39] <mitrovarr> docta_v:  either one isn't possible. I can ping the remote server with the host, so it can talk to it for sure, and it's just two machines on a lan!
[11:39] <docta_v> they both have the same default gateway?
[11:40] <corpsefeeder> do I need this "Examples" folder which installed itself on the orginal installation from the live CD? or can I trash that too?
[11:40] <shaantanu> !sound
[11:40] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:40] <docta_v> mitrovarr: try running iptables -F on the client system
[11:40] <docta_v> as root
[11:40] <mitrovarr> docta_v:  yep they're DHCPing the same router
[11:41] <sethk> corpsefeeder, you can trash it, if you have a reason to do so.
[11:42] <mitrovarr> docta_v:  no good, it didn't fix anything.  I think it's a dependancy issue (maybe it's missing the crypto package?) because the one that doesn't work is xubuntu
[11:42] <docta_v> nah ssh wouldn't load
[11:42] <docta_v> if you were you missing a library
[11:42] <mitrovarr> hmm
[11:42] <mitrovarr> it'
[11:42] <mitrovarr> it's just odd
[11:43] <mitrovarr> the other computers on the network can ssh to the target machine
[11:43] <abrocadabro> I have intel duo cpu running on smp kernel, my first cpu stays at 1.83 all the time, only the second cpu can scale, any ideas?
[11:43] <mitrovarr> and the one that can't can still ping it
[11:44] <steadyryder> hello
[11:44] <mitrovarr> it's such a strange problem I couldn't guess how to fix it myself, which is why I came here
[11:44] <docta_v> mitrovarr: so you tried telnet host 22 right?
[11:44] <zoor> what can I do to open archive named .001 / .002 / .003 and so on... It is supposed to be like the rar archive but I'm unable to open it. Any ideas?
[11:45] <mitrovarr> docta_v:  yes, it times out (other computers on the net get refused since telnetd isn't going)
[11:45] <docta_v> no telnet to port 22
[11:45] <mitrovarr> nope I didn't turn on telnet daemon on it
[11:46] <mitrovarr> but the buggy machine gets timeout while the others get refused, which I don't understand
[11:46] <docta_v> 22 is the ssh port
[11:46] <mitrovarr> oh, sorry, I thought they used the same
[11:46] <mitrovarr> I'll go try that... doh!
[11:46] <docta_v> two services can't run on the same port
[11:47] <mitrovarr> ok, the one that won't connect is timing out.  The other ones get an ssh message than they protocol mismatch.
[11:47] <orasis1> Grr, I adore Linux.. but wow does its audio software .. lack :(
[11:48] <docta_v> orasis1: there's always vmware
[11:48] <orasis1> I should email sony, tell them to port Sound Forge to Linux :D
[11:48] <orasis1> Docta, .. yeah
[11:50] <docta_v> mitrovarr: check the routing table
[11:50] <docta_v> netstat -rn
[11:50] <docta_v> just because it's dhcping the same router doesn't mean it didn't mess up
[11:50] <docta_v> hmm but you can ping it
[11:51] <mitrovarr> seems ok
[11:51] <mitrovarr> the routing table looks basically like the other network machines
[11:51] <docta_v> really seems like a firewall
[11:51] <mitrovarr> doesn't make sense that 192.168.0.3 can ssh to something that 192.168.0.1 can't
[11:51] <corpsefeeder> what are these lost+found folders for?
[11:51] <docta_v> yea
[11:52] <Sagotis> this may sound liek a stupid question, is there anyway to fully encrypt a one's harddrive without having the booting part of the harddrive unencrypted? - and i guess in order to do that I must have hardware that can unencrypt the drive at bootup (that is if existed)?
[11:52] <mitrovarr> which is why I think 192.168.0.1 is probably broken...
[11:52] <afief> Does anybody know how to excgange a wine library for a W32 DLL?
[11:53] <docta_v> Sagotis: i think you can have everything encrypted besides a small /boot partition for your kernel
[11:53] <mjr> Sagotis, you could keep the bootup necessities on an USB key...
[11:53] <docta_v> yea but it doesn't matter if your kernel is unencrypted
[11:53] <Sagotis> mjr, really can you point me to a walkthough for that?
[11:54] <mjr> it does; you can keep the usb key along with you and therefore physically ensure that it can't be compromised
[11:54] <mjr> Sagotis, no
[11:54] <docta_v> Sagotis: are you mainly worried about documents or other files being compramised?
[11:54] <docta_v> I think what you want is an encrypted /home partition
[11:54] <mitrovarr> anyways, the reason I'm trying to get ssh going on this, is so I can use FreeNX to remote desktop a small, pitiful laptop to a worthwhile desktop
[11:54] <Sagotis> docta_v, no the whole filesystem
[11:55] <docta_v> why bother encrypting the entire OS? none of that stuff is sensitive
[11:55] <M3G4crux> hi
[11:55] <corpsefeeder> where is the best place (the normal place) to put a mount point for a second internal drive?
[11:55] <mjr> there are some gotchas in encrypting only /home, such as making sure that updatedb doesn't index the encrypted stuff
[11:55] <mjr> nevertheless, I've personally settled for /home encryption
[11:55] <Sagotis> docta_v, perhaps but then again maybe not ;)
[11:56] <docta_v> there's gotchas for everything
[11:56] <mjr> docta_v, yes, like the gotcha that an attacker may modify an unencrypted OS in such a way as to capture the key for an encrypted /home
[11:56] <docta_v> using a boot cd?
[11:56] <mitrovarr> I guess you might want to encrypt the whole drive if you were worried that little temporary files, caches, and setting files might let encrypted data out
[11:56] <Sagotis> thing is that what happens if there is some type of proge installed that has binaries installed in /usr?
[11:57] <docta_v> mjr: you could use tripwire to detect that
[11:57] <mjr> docta_v, not if you're booting from the compromised OS
[11:57] <intuosman> hi, can someone give me advice as to what necessary programs i must likely install so i can run legacy linux X applications to minimize if not elliminate instances of core dumps?
[11:58] <mjr> of course, if you always boot from, say, a trusted USB key with the tripwire database first and check the OS on the disk, that'd work ;)
[11:58] <mitrovarr> docta_v:  I'm rebooting the laptop so hopefully that might help the network issue.  But I doubt it.
[11:58] <Sagotis> meaning i dont want anyoen to know that they exist in /usr ;)
[11:58] <docta_v> mitrovarr: anything in the system logs on either system?
[11:58] <docta_v> try running with ssh -vv or something too
[11:58] <corpsefeeder> where does one typically mount a second internalhard drive?
[11:59] <mitrovarr> docta_v:  can you remind me where the logs live?  I always forget (embarrasment)
[11:59] <GTroy> uhhhhhhh you just use sh for a .deb right?
[11:59] <docta_v> in /var/log/messages
[11:59] <mitrovarr> thanks
[11:59] <docta_v> or other stuff in /var/log
[11:59] <Jivemonkey> i broke my ubuntu
[11:59] <GTroy> Jivemonkey, what'd you do last?>
[11:59] <Jivemonkey> i cant log in i get a black screen because i was messing with xgl
[11:59] <GTroy> you need to configure xorg.conf
[12:00] <GTroy> it's not broken
[12:00] <Jivemonkey> how do i do that
[12:00] <Jivemonkey> i was messing wiht config files just prior to this
[12:00] <GTroy> depends on your hardware
[12:00] <mitrovarr> hmm, odd
[12:00] <Jivemonkey> oh wait i have a livecd
[12:00] <Jivemonkey> can i use that?
[12:00] <Blinker> Jivemonkey, did you back them up?
[12:00] <GTroy> you can use terminal!
[12:00] <Jivemonkey> no
[12:00] <mitrovarr> I'm showing a lot of packets from the computer that can't connect, but it doesn't say anything about why they're in messages... does thaat mean they WERE firewalled?
[12:00] <Jivemonkey> i cant get to a terminal
[12:01] <Jivemonkey> i dont know how
[12:01] <Jivemonkey> black screen
[12:01] <GTroy> ok...i've been a while on osx.....how do I install a .deb?
[12:01] <docta_v> mitrovarr: where are you seeing packets that can't connect?
[12:01] <mitrovarr> in /var/log/messages
[12:01] <docta_v> ah well what does the error message say
[12:02] <docta_v> you could paste it if it's only like one line
[12:02] <mitrovarr> and if it were on this computer :-(
[12:02] <jrib> !deb
[12:02] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[12:02] <docta_v> paraphrase it?
[12:02] <docta_v> GTroy: you want fink
[12:03] <docta_v> err on osx that is
[12:03] <GTroy> hehe forgot about dependency problems
[12:03] <mitrovarr> MAC=(address) SRC=192.168.0.1 DST=192.168.0.4 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=19386 DV PROTO=TCP SPC=2005 DPT=22 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
[12:03] <jrib> GTroy: you should check the repositories first before install a deb though
[12:03] <Jivemonkey> how do i fix this
[12:03] <mitrovarr> maybe those indicate returned pings
[12:03] <jrib> installing*
[12:03] <GTroy> oh dang...
[12:04] <GTroy> good thing jrib
[12:04] <GTroy> wait... I think I already did that
[12:04] <jrib> GTroy: what do you want to install?
[12:04] <GTroy> skype
[12:04] <jrib> !skype
[12:04] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:04] <docta_v> mitrovarr: maybe try iptables -F on the remote system?
[12:04] <GTroy> thanks jrib
[12:05] <corpsefeeder> should I mount a drive in root? or usr? or home? or bin? or media? or what? Where do drives normally get mounted? Does it matter?
[12:05] <orasis1> How do you run wine?
[12:05] <mitrovarr> ok, let's see
[12:05] <Tinned_Tuna> heya
[12:05] <jrib> corpsefeeder: /media or /mnt, I think /mnt is meant for more temporary mounts, but do what you prefer
[12:06] <shaantanu> !printer
[12:06] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:06] <Tinned_Tuna> I have Ubuntu 6.06, and it /used/ to have a good resolution, but since I put a KVM in, it's automagically configuring itself to use 640x480, can I stop this, or atleast set it so it's always 1280x1024?
[12:06] <orasis1> Ahh, ok - so gksudo wine -arguments ?
[12:07] <docta_v> mitrovarr: just doesn't make any sense to me
[12:07] <jrib> orasis1: why sudo wine?
[12:07] <shaantanu> tuna gimme ur system -> preferneces ->system resolution
[12:07] <mitrovarr> flushing ip tables killed my internet connection on that machine
[12:08] <Tinned_Tuna> I can't start x, I've played with it too much, now X won't start at all
[12:08] <shaantanu> while what amuses me is why wud u put a KVM in that ??
[12:08] <Tinned_Tuna> lol
[12:08] <Tinned_Tuna> switch between 2 machines :p
[12:08] <orasis1> jrib, haha true
[12:08] <shaantanu> Tinnes_Tuna : gimme ur system -> preferneces ->system resolution
[12:09] <shaantanu> Tinnes_Tuna : while what amuses me is why wud u put a KVM in that ??
[12:09] <orasis1> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\Firefox.exe" <-- I thought there was no need to have windows installed under WIne?
[12:09] <Jivemonkey> i cant even get that much
[12:09] <Rawplayer> anyone in here using ubuntu ?
[12:09] <Jivemonkey> i just get a black screen
[12:09] <Rawplayer> :p
[12:10] <shaantanu> Rawplayer : we all r ubuntu users here
[12:10] <mitrovarr> man, flushing the IP tables totally messed up networking on the remote machine.  It won't do anything networked anymore
[12:10] <Tinned_Tuna> :)
[12:10] <shaantanu> >:o
[12:10] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: alwyasy check your default policy before doing that
[12:10] <docta_v> mitrovarr: oops :(
[12:10] <Tinned_Tuna> frack, even Grub's messed up with the KVM
[12:10] <docta_v> should be able to reload the rules
[12:10] <fredl> hi :)
[12:11] <mitrovarr> oh well I dual boot anyway.  It's not like I have some uptime record to maintain
[12:11] <docta_v> there's probably an init script
[12:11] <docta_v> depending on what firewall app you're using if any
[12:11] <mitrovarr> none known
[12:11] <fredl> I'm having big problems with the ATI driver for xorg right now. Probably nothing new.... so I'm in text mode right now and somewhat limited....
[12:11] <mitrovarr> hw firewall on the outside of this network
[12:12] <herb> ok, i'm dual booting to xp and ubuntu now, and just installed my first app under linux, xchat....
[12:12] <fredl> could somebody help me with instruction on converting to the Ubuntu ATI driver
[12:12] <fredl> ?
[12:12] <corpsefeeder> i had an old S3 Virge video card in this machine... it refused to change screen resolution. i found the solution was to remove the card, pound it into little pieces, douse it with petrol and set it alight. and replace it with another old card I had.
[12:12] <orasis1> I have one last question - what is the difference in synaptic, of "mark for removal" or "mark for complete removal" ? - Does mark for removal only remove the program and leave the libraries it may have installed with it?
[12:12] <mitrovarr> it's not even so important that I get this working, but it's just driving me NUTS that it won't
[12:13] <mitrovarr> complete removal = deletes configuration files
[12:13] <Tinned_Tuna> XServer failed to start :/
[12:13] <Tinned_Tuna> I think I've fracked it
[12:14] <orasis1> Fredl, ati driver is on by default if you have an ati card
[12:14] <Tinned_Tuna> now here's my problem: "(EE) No devices detected"
[12:14] <orasis1> If you want radeon, you edit your /etc/X11/corg.conf file and in the device section replace "ati" with "radeon" then press ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X
[12:14] <fredl> orasis1: Well I still had an xorg.conf with the fglrx driver in it, been on vacation and just dist-upgraded my system
[12:14] <orasis1> oops xorg.conf even
[12:14] <fredl> orasis1: and now it's COMPLETELY hosed, I had to disable gdm otherwise I can't even get into text mode
[12:14] <mitrovarr> well upon reboot, pings work, networking works, but ssh still won't connect
[12:14] <linux_user400354> i am trying to get the mplayer plugin for firefox to play a movie, but mplayer just says initiallizing and never plays the movie. has anyone else had this problem?
[12:15] <airg> i have a usb printer. no matter if it is on or off, either when i boot or when i am logged in my desktop, if i connect it to any usb port, my system freezes. any ideas what could be causing this or what can i do to solve this problem?
[12:15] <orasis1> Alright, so go into xorg.conf - scroll to the "device" section, and replace fglrx to "ati" or "radeon" and ctrl-alt-backspace (I would say radeon is the better choice, quicker 2d)
[12:15] <fredl> orasis1: alright, let me try radeon. I've tried ATI before but that wouldn't work.
[12:15] <intuosman> what apps that i can apt-get so i can run legacy linux X apps?
[12:15] <fredl> orasis1: hang on.
[12:16] <mitrovarr> anyone here successfully ssh to something in Xubuntu?
[12:16] <Tinned_Tuna> mitrovarr: I set up a mate's PC with Xubuntu a while ago and checked it was online by ssh-ing to my server
[12:16] <Tinned_Tuna> but other than that, no, lol
[12:17] <Flannel> intuosman: er, 'legacy linux apps'?
[12:17] <mitrovarr> Tinned_Tuna:  That's good, then I know that ssh isn't broken by default in xubuntu
[12:17] <Tinned_Tuna> hehe :)
[12:17] <Tinned_Tuna> can you ping the desired host?
[12:17] <mitrovarr> yes
[12:17] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: are you trying to use xubuntu as an ssh server?
[12:17] <mitrovarr> no, a client (by proxy with FreeNX)
[12:17] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: can you telnet to the port?
[12:18] <mitrovarr> on other computers, yes.  On the client computer, no.
[12:18] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: firewalling all turned off?
[12:18] <mitrovarr> As far as I know.
[12:18] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: iptables -t nat -vnL
[12:18] <fredl> orasis1: okay, X came up now. Let me switch over there....
[12:18] <mitrovarr> on client or server?
[12:18] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: both :)
[12:19] <orasis1> fred
[12:19] <orasis1> remember that ATI, must be in little letters
[12:19] <ninogan> Im looking for custom icons to change the look of folders and the likes. Does anyone know where i can find that for linux systems?
[12:19] <orasis1> I dont know if you did it in capitals
[12:19] <mitrovarr> was that a diagnostic or a fix?
[12:19] <fredl> orasis1: ok I'm in X now. No I didn't use 'ati' now, I used 'radeon'
[12:20] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: diagnostic
[12:20] <mitrovarr> didn't return any useful data
[12:20] <mitrovarr> on either
[12:20] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: should give you all your NAT rules
[12:20] <fredl> orasis1: so far it seems to work reasonably but I had the fglrx driver before and then X became unstable after a while.
[12:20] <Cale> Hello, how much work is it to get reiser4 working in ubuntu dapper? Will I have to build my own kernel by hand for that, or is there a suitable package?
[12:20] <mitrovarr> bbrazil:  Nat shouldn't be relevant, this is all taking place in a LAN
[12:20] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: but nat rules could affect where the traffic is going
[12:21] <orasis1> Fred, yeah I had the exact same problem a day ago - fglrx.. is quicker for like flash and the like.. but too buggy
 but neither machine has any
[12:21] <fredl> orasis1: so the 'radeon' driver is the opensource driver?
[12:21] <orasis1> fred, yes
[12:21] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: on the server nc -l -p 1234
[12:21] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: theon on the client telnet server 1234
[12:21] <orasis1> I have heard that it can be buggy also, if that happens to you .. I guess you need to return to "ati" - I have not had any problems so far, radeon is better then ati - its quicker
[12:21] <orasis1> Anyways, breakfast time.. :D
[12:21] <fredl> orasis1: okay than I've progressed further than before :) the opensource driver didn't use to recognize my card at all before. But then I used 'ati' instead of 'radeon'
[12:21] <mitrovarr> timeout
[12:22] <ninogan> Im looking for custom icons to change the look of folders and the likes. Does anyone know where i can find that for linux systems?
[12:22] <orasis1> nino www.gnome-look.org
[12:22] <fredl> so anybody know the difference between the 'ati' driver and the 'radeon' driver?
[12:22] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: okay, run tcpdump on the server and try connecting from the client. Do you see incoming packets?
[12:23] <ninogan> orasisl thanks
[12:23] <Tinned_Tuna> urgh, frack it, I'll just reinstall it...
[12:23] <mitrovarr> ugh, man, I gotta turn off the ping :-D
[12:23] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: are these systems plugged into the same switch?
[12:24] <mitrovarr> yes
[12:24] <mitrovarr> I'm seeing packets in the dump
[12:24] <cd_rom> oh man, synaptic failed to download packages from ubuntu archive
[12:24] <cd_rom> any suggestions?
[12:24] <mitrovarr> the ssh packets are here
[12:25] <cd_rom> connection timed out
[12:25] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: are syn+ack being sent back?
[12:25] <cd_rom> how can i fix this?
[12:25] <mitrovarr> not to the one that can't connect, yes to the other
[12:25] <mitrovarr> I tried it with another and it did reply
[12:25] <mitrovarr> it's not replying to the one that can't connect though
[12:26] <mitrovarr> wow, really does sound like a firewall
[12:26] <mefiX> hi! i'm having a problem with aptitude, during start does it take a looong time to initialize the packets! how can i speed up this?
[12:26] <mitrovarr> any firewalls run on ubuntu without having to be manually turned on?
[12:26] <Schalken> what would a gnome user typically use to access a public cvs?
[12:26] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: no. syn+ack not being sent from the server is a server issue
[12:26] <finalbeta> mitrovarr, no
[12:26] <mitrovarr> I really don't understand why the server would work great with 192.168.0.3 and 192.168.0.2 but not .1
[12:27] <finalbeta> Schalken, ./cvs
[12:27] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: pings work fine in both directions?
[12:27] <herb> ok, got flashplayer working now, can watch youtube and google videos...
[12:27] <mitrovarr> yep
[12:27] <abrocadabro> mitrovarr: what's route say on the client?
[12:28] <Schalken> finalbeta: ...is that a program? how do i use "./cvs"?
[12:28] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: so the current state is that pings work both ways. The client's SYNs are arriving but the SYN+ACKs aren't being snet?
[12:28] <mitrovarr> bbrazil:  I think so.  I have trouble reading raw packets
[12:28] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: the 'S' is syn, tcpdump shows acks as 'ack'
[12:29] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: try tethereal, it's a bit easier to read
[12:29] <mitrovarr> yep, it's sending but not getting replies
[12:29] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: this is the tcpdump on the server?
[12:29] <mitrovarr> yep
[12:29] <mitrovarr> I see 192.168.0.1 trying to syn but no ack
[12:29] <finalbeta> Schalken, yes, it's commandline.  cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@wxwindows.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/wxwindows login
[12:29] <finalbeta> 
[12:29] <finalbeta> cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@wxwindows.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/wxwindows co -P modulename
[12:30] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: on the server: iptables -vnL
[12:30] <jake_> hi -- i'm really having trouble here; suddenly i can't log in at all.  when i type in my username and password at the kdm login screen it just goes black for a moment and then brings me back to kdm
[12:30] <jake_> this happens with gdm too
[12:30] <finalbeta> That should be enough to get a mudule from sourceforge, but you should be looking for a tutorial
[12:31] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: Were you running tcpdump with '-i any' ?
[12:31] <mitrovarr> no
[12:31] <mitrovarr> should I/
[12:31] <mitrovarr> I was running with -i eth9
[12:31] <mitrovarr> err
[12:31] <mitrovarr> eth0
[12:31] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: yes, see if it's going out on a different interface
[12:31] <mitrovarr> good idea that'll see if it's routing
[12:32] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: it pings, so it should router unless you're doing crazy stuff
[12:32] <Schalken> finalbeta: oh righto thanks. is there a gnome frontend for cvs?
[12:32] <mitrovarr> I meant routing to a different interface
[12:32] <mitrovarr> um, no acks
[12:32] <mitrovarr> but -i any is REALLY hard to read, something is talking on loopback pretty hard
[12:33] <hextor> hello everybody..
[12:33] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: add port 22
[12:34] <bbrazil> mitrovarr: that'll restrict it to anytihng with port 22
[12:34] <hextor> i have an easy question (i think).. when you connect to irc, either through gaim or xchat, the irc server reflects your linux user. is there a way to change this?
[12:34] <GTroy> uh-oh....I installed firefox-vlc-plugin after I installed totem-xine-plugin...anyone help?
[12:34] <jrib> GTroy: can you remove one?
[12:35] <robert_> blah, does anybody here have any experience editing /etc/magic?
[12:35] <GTroy> I removed all of vlc
[12:35] <GTroy> except the player
[12:35] <bbrazil> hextor: yes. The answer is irssi is the change the 'username' setting
[12:35] <GTroy> I get video and no sound
[12:35] <herb> i need to just lurk, and not touch anything...  before i f*ck up this fresh install.....
[12:35] <michael003> hextor: In XChat, it's in the Server List
[12:35] <jrib> GTroy: in vlc?
[12:35] <shaantanu> Gtroy : check out for the plugin called esd
[12:35] <bbrazil> hextor: the other two have similar options iirc
[12:35] <GTroy> in firefox
[12:36] <herb> everything is so novel
[12:36] <shaantanu> that is responsible for sound
[12:36] <alk_> .o/
[12:36] <GTroy> shaantanu....do I want it, or not?
[12:36] <mitrovarr> syns are coming in, no acks are going out
[12:36] <shaantanu> u want it
[12:36] <GTroy> cool
[12:36] <GTroy> thank you
[12:36] <shaantanu> it is responsible for sound
[12:36] <alk_> hello, I've got a wee problem perhaps someone can help
[12:36] <shaantanu> u can get it in the unvierse repo i think
[12:36] <alk_> I'm running ubuntu in vmware in xp
[12:36] <jrib> !ask
[12:36] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:36] <mitrovarr> anyways, I have to go to sleep
[12:36] <mitrovarr> this problem is driving me nuts but it's 4:30 am here
[12:37] <alk_> at the terminal I can ping www.google.com
[12:37] <alk_> but in firefox it won't connect
[12:37] <alk_> (or any other webpage)
[12:37] <herb> i ran Gentoo in VirtualPC and was just lost....  staring at a command line
[12:37] <shaantanu> alk_ u running windows thru ubuntu using vmware ??
[12:38] <alk_> ubuntu in vmware, vmware in windows
[12:38] <mitrovarr> thanks for the help everyone!  I'll try running a livecd on the laptop tomorrow to make absolutely sure no errors on host, and maybe trying a different IP
[12:38] <hextor> michael, bbrazil: i did that but still when i do a whois, the original user shows up
[12:38] <Tinned_Tuna> I do most of my virtualization using Qemy
[12:38] <Tinned_Tuna> *Qemu
[12:38] <bbrazil> hextor: you have to restart your irc connection
[12:38] <GTroy> shaantanu, I had a vlc esd plugin
[12:39] <shaantanu> still u dont have any sound ??
[12:39] <alk_> shaantanu; ubuntu in vmware, vmware in windows
[12:39] <GTroy> lemme try
[12:39] <shaantanu> just a sec alk
[12:40] <shaantanu> alk , did u try booting in ubuntu and connecting from there and not thru vmware ??
[12:40] <fran> ola
[12:40] <GTroy> shaantanu, doesn't seem like I've got any sound
[12:40] <fran> sois ingleses nop?
[12:40] <herb> i can run DamnSmallLinux from a usb drive inside of Windows using Qemy, but can't boot to it, even with a bootfloppy
[12:40] <shaantanu> if u cant connect in plain ubuntu , it might be a prob with ur config in ubuntu
[12:40] <fran> ola?
[12:41] <alk_> shaantanu; I've just tried telnetting to www.google.com on port 80, won't connect
[12:41] <fran> zoigberg
[12:41] <alk_> but I can ping
[12:41] <shaantanu> gtroy do u have any sound in any other app like xmmms player ??
[12:41] <fran> ijos de puta
[12:41] <GTroy> hold on
[12:41] <Tinned_Tuna> herb, what did you try to boot?
[12:41] <shaantanu> see alk i want u to restart ur comp and u login to ubuntu without using vmware
[12:42] <Tinned_Tuna> because you have to get the different versions to different things
[12:42] <shaantanu> now temme still can u or can u not browse using firfox
[12:42] <alk_> windows firewall
[12:42] <alk_> :)
[12:42] <shaantanu> Thats it !!
[12:42] <Tinned_Tuna> e.g. you can't boot the embedded version from a CD with no host OS
[12:42] <shaantanu> so u found a work arnd
[12:42] <herb> i updated my BIOS and wanted to see if USB devices were in my boot sequence
[12:43] <alk_> shaantanu; thanks for the help
[12:43] <shaantanu> u r welcome
[12:43] <GTroy> shaantanu, no sound from rthymbox
[12:43] <shaantanu> then its ur sound which is at problem and not the esd plugin
[12:43] <herb> sorry,,  I tried to boot MyDSL embedded....
[12:43] <Inferus> Hi all
[12:43] <shaantanu> click on ur sound icon in ur system tray .. right click
[12:43] <Inferus> im trying to set up software RAID using ubuntu
[12:43] <kaffeewoller> hi
[12:43] <shaantanu> click on prefences
[12:44] <Inferus> but im struggling, I have erased both disks, and created on the first one a ext3 partition and a swap space and the second a raid partition, are they supposed to both be raid partitions?
[12:44] <soundray> I am trying to wake up my laptop via Wake-On-Lan. It works when it is turned off, but doesn't wake up when it's suspended. Any hints?
[12:44] <kaffeewoller> can someone tell me how to change the width of metacity'
[12:44] <GTroy> what am I looking for?
[12:44] <kaffeewoller> s vertical borders?
[12:44] <shaantanu> choose alsa mixer
[12:44] <GTroy> switch from alsa?
[12:44] <shaantanu> switch to alsa
[12:45] <GTroy> it is on alsa...
[12:45] <GTroy> hmm weird
[12:45] <shaantanu> I think u must have ur sound card listed in the list
[12:45] <hextor> hmm i mean
[12:45] <soundray> Inferus: you are trying to make a raid from just one disk?
[12:45] <GTroy> shaantanu I pulled it out
[12:45] <kaffeewoller> actually, i would like metacity without vertical borders.
[12:45] <shaantanu> there may be more then one entries with (alsa mixer) in the name
[12:45] <kaffeewoller> is this possible?
[12:46] <shaantanu> gtroy . u mean it works now ??
[12:46] <GTroy> nope
[12:46] <EmxBA> aaah
[12:46] <chopchop_> how can i disable the beep sound in terminal, im using xubuntu with xterm
[12:46] <GTroy> nothing
[12:46] <intuosman> ls
[12:46] <EmxBA> irssi is cool :D
[12:46] <intuosman> hello,
[12:46] <jrib> kaffeewoller: I think that may be configurable in your theme, but I am not sure
[12:46] <Inferus> soundray no
[12:46] <Inferus> i have two hdd's
[12:46] <Inferus> both are 80gb#
[12:46] <Inferus> i want to make a RAID1 array
[12:46] <shaantanu> what all can u find in that preferences list
[12:46] <thoreauputic> chopchop_: xset -b off
[12:46] <kaffeewoller> jrib: is there some howto on themeing?
[12:46] <GTroy> dammnit, I have sound
[12:46] <jrib> kaffeewoller: there is one on art.gnome.org
[12:47] <Subhuman> Inferus, you have a RAID controller yeah?
[12:47] <thoreauputic> chopchop_: sorry , xset b off ( no -)
[12:47] <shaantanu> yaa
[12:47] <intuosman> anyone here got an idea about some packages needed to be installed to run legacy linux X apps smoothly without core dumps?
[12:47] <GTroy> you got it shaantanu
[12:47] <GTroy> thanks!
[12:47] <shaantanu> fiddling arnd there works just fine
[12:47] <michael003> chopchop_: Or, right click, Edit Current Profile, untick Terminal Bell
[12:47] <Inferus> im doing software raid Subhuman
[12:47] <GTroy> simple enough
[12:47] <shaantanu> u r welcome
[12:47] <kaffeewoller> jrib: ill have a look
[12:47] <GTroy> I'll try to remember that if someone has the same problme
[12:47] <chopchop_> thanks guys
[12:47] <shaantanu> even i was struggling wid the same prob earlier
[12:47] <hextor> lets try again, more precise; ... when you connect to irc, either through gaim or xchat, the irc server reflects your linux user on the stuff it places under a whois. that means user@xxxx.sever,net. Is there a way to change this? It did not do so in windows.
[12:47] <thoreauputic> michael003: he's using xterm :)
[12:47] <zugu> hi all
[12:47] <shaantanu> thats the spirit of ubuntu
[12:47] <michael003> Oh, whoops! :$
[12:47] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:47] <zugu> how do I set up a java applet to use ESS?
[12:48] <michael003> That's what happens when you don't read properly...
[12:48] <jrib> kaffeewoller: yeah I just found something that looks promising in a theme: it's in metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml in the theme I use.  The line reads: <distance name="left_width" value="5"/>
[12:48] <soundray> Inferus: you have to dedicate both disks to do RAID.
[12:48] <shaantanu> long live the spirit of ubuntu
[12:48] <Inferus> ok
[12:48] <chopchop_> thoreauputic: is that autosttart every time i start ubuntu?
[12:48] <Inferus> i have done that soundray and it still goes wrong
[12:48] <Inferus> created logical volumes as type RAID ?
[12:48] <thoreauputic> chopchop_: no
[12:48] <Obst> Hi guys
[12:49] <shaantanu> #############anybody knows how to connect my pocket PC having windows CE 2003 to ubuntu ########################
[12:49] <soundray> Inferus: you said you created a root and a swap partition. Are those inside the RAID?
[12:49] <thoreauputic> chopchop_: if you are using xfce you can set it in the autostart dir for xfce I think
[12:49] <Inferus> soundray: i havent got a clue what im doing
[12:49] <docta_v> shaantanu: connect to do what?
[12:49] <thoreauputic> shaantanu: don't spam please
[12:49] <shaantanu> synchronize
[12:49] <Obst> im about to install ubuntu with debootstrap on my server, now i need to run base-config, where can i find it?
[12:49] <Inferus> want to go priv, as I can't follow the channel
[12:50] <soundray> Inferus: there are some good howto's around... hold on, let me give you a URL
[12:50] <shaantanu> i m not spamming
[12:50] <docta_v> your outlook or do you want to transfer files?
[12:50] <shaantanu> transfer files
[12:50] <Inferus> http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html seems to do what i want soundray
[12:50] <docta_v> use samba under ubuntu
[12:50] <soundray> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html ; Inferus
[12:50] <thoreauputic> shaantanu: well drop the ########## then ;)
[12:50] <Inferus> ty
[12:50] <shaantanu> why does it bother u
[12:50] <chopchop_> ok, thnks
[12:50] <shaantanu> docta gimme some link
[12:52] <soundray> shaantanu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30936
[12:52] <Obst> where is base-config located?
[12:52] <Obst> please help :>
[12:52] <shaantanu> k thanx
[12:52] <soundray> shaantanu: and don't say you're not spamming when you're using obvious spam tactics
[12:53] <shaantanu> ok fine ... it will be spam when i do it repeatadly , thats just an attention grabber
[12:54] <soundray> Can anyone help me with wakeonlan? The ethtool setting that enables remote wakeup doesn't survive suspending to RAM.
[12:54] <IRCMonkeyX> is it only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu, to use kde desktop ? if so why do they build new version,? in fact it is easy to get kde with one command from ubuntu, if am not wrong ?
[12:55] <shaantanu> and what will be the command munkey ??
[12:55] <soundray> IRCMonkeyX: it's an organizational thing. Different groups of people look after ubuntu and kubuntu (and edubuntu and xubuntu)
[12:55] <jrib> IRCMonkeyX: kubuntu is ubuntu with the kubuntu-desktop package installed instead of ubuntu-desktop, so you can just install the kubuntu-desktop package to get kde
[12:56] <IRCMonkeyX> kubuntu desktop doesnt equal kde, ? does it have more things ?
[12:56] <Netcad> hi was transfering my website from one server to another server. it was uploading. but it is not completely uploaded. file name is ".pureftpd-upload.44d7c47c.15.b7e.904a01aa"  . Can i repair this file?
[12:56] <jrib> IRCMonkeyX: well kubuntu-desktop bring sin all of the kde apps that are default in kubuntu
[12:57] <soundray> IRCMonkeyX: the kubuntu-desktop packages depends on the KDE core as well as a load of KDE applications and utilities
[12:57] <shaantanu> hey soundray
[12:57] <soundray> IRCMonkeyX: try 'apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop'
[12:57] <shaantanu> the link u gave me describes syncCE and multiSync
[12:57] <IRCMonkeyX> is there any difference between, to get kde from ubuntu and to install kubuntu from zero ?
[12:57] <shaantanu> i want acsync
[12:58] <shaantanu> *actsync
[12:58] <soundray> shaantanu: never heard.
[12:58] <shaantanu> activesync
[12:58] <shaantanu> the latest synch tech in windows CE 2003
[12:58] <patpond> wow, there's a lot of users on here
[12:59] <IRCMonkeyX> soundray: i tried the command, it gave many things ?
[12:59] <soundray> shaantanu: synce in Linux emulates what ActiveSync does in Windows.
[12:59] <shaantanu> ok ... lemme try then
[12:59] <soundray> IRCMonkeyX: it's a list of packages that kubuntu-desktop depends on, so you know what it would install.
[01:00] <IRCMonkeyX> soundray: is there any difference between, to get kde from ubuntu and to install kubuntu from zero ?
[01:00] <shaantanu> what is multisync BTW ??
[01:00] <patpond> anybody got time to help a n00b out?
[01:00] <todd> IRCMonkeyX: what are you asking?
[01:00] <todd> patpond: depends on what the prob is.
[01:00] <soundray> shaantanu: look at the description in apt-cache show multisync
[01:00] <shaantanu> all are n00bs here patpond temme
[01:00] <IRCMonkeyX> soundray: i mean after getting kde in ubuntu, will i be kubuntu user ?
[01:00] <shaantanu> ok soundray
[01:01] <nrdb> Hi I have just added a second ethernet card to my computer (its eth1), I need find out which pci card this is, as there are two ethernet cards how do I find out which one is the new one (i.e. is used for eth1).
[01:01] <todd> I'm wanting to know whether or not I can run two WM at once (GNOME, and KDE, or Gnome and XCFE ect) ...
[01:01] <patpond> my video resolution with ubuntu... :s... I installed it on VMWare and it looks weird... :(
[01:01] <hextor> yes u can
[01:01] <shaantanu> nrdb : lspci
[01:01] <soundray> IRCMonkeyX: yes, if you install kubuntu-desktop, it will be very similar to a kubuntu install from scratch
[01:01] <IRCMonkeyX> todd: is there any difference between, to get kde from ubuntu and to install kubuntu from zero ? i try to mean , finally will i have same system in both ways ?
[01:01] <hextor> i have gnome and xfce
[01:02] <todd> Well, I have a laptop at home that I installed Ubuntu onto. It has the Gnome WM as default.
[01:02] <nrdb> shaantanu: I know about lspci is there any way of knowing which card is eth1?
[01:02] <IRCMonkeyX> soundray: but not exactly kubuntu ? do i understand right ?
[01:02] <shaantanu> both are same make ??
[01:02] <todd> I just downloaded the kubuntu relase (the latest) and installed it fresh on this other laptop.
[01:02] <hextor> REPOST: when you connect to irc, either through gaim or xchat, the irc server reflects your linux user on the stuff it places under a whois. that means user@xxxx.sever,net. Is there a way to change this? It did not do so in windows.
[01:02] <nrdb> shaantanu: no but I don't know what the orginal one was.
[01:03] <todd> Everything running a lot smoother, and I like KDE a lot more than I like Gnome because it has more options for displaying files ... and more control over window behavior and desktops.
[01:03] <todd> .. but basically they are the same system.
[01:03] <shaantanu> then in lspci , u can identify , the original
[01:03] <todd> Just ... different ways of interacting with it.
[01:03] <shaantanu> and the remaining will be the new one
[01:03] <todd> Nothing in the system realy changes
[01:03] <todd> you're just getting a new WM.
[01:04] <patpond> could someone possible PM me?
[01:04] <nrdb> shaantanu: I found the answer ifconfig tells what interrupt is used by each interface, and lspci tells which interrupt is used for each card.
[01:05] <soundray> IRCMonkeyX: if you want kubuntu, you can go either way: install kubuntu, or install kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu. The two installations won't be exactly the same, but the difference won't be noticeable.
[01:05] <shaantanu> ok gr8
[01:05] <shaantanu> even i know something new now
[01:05] <IRCMonkeyX> soundray: got it, thanx
[01:05] <todd> shaantanu: what did you use before linux?
[01:05] <todd> windows?
[01:06] <shaantanu> nope
[01:06] <shaantanu> solaris
[01:06] <soundray> nrdb: that's cool. When I was in this situation, I found out by trial and error ;)
[01:06] <shaantanu> windows is too costly here in germany
[01:06] <Gnonthgol> I need "Blender" from 5.10, can anyone help me out?
[01:06] <todd> Ah, I have never used a Solaris box before.
[01:06] <shaantanu> BTW y do u ask ??
[01:08] <soundray> Gnonthgol: versions back to 2.37a are in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/blender/
[01:08] <Gnonthgol> soundray: Thanks
[01:09] <todd> I ... dunno. Was just wondering. I was going to say that you might be more comfortable with KDE coming from Windows, you're presented with a lot more options, and Gnome is kinda frustrating because you try to find features that just arent there. Annoying. But thats kinda biased. Can make gnome the way I want it would just require more work than its worth at this point.
[01:09] <todd> I want ... to get XGL/compiz ..working, lol whenever its not a damn beta.
[01:10] <docta_v> i ultimately switched off kde because it looks too much like windows
[01:10] <tomcatt> !ubotu bluetooth
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubotu bluetooth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <KristianDK> Hello
[01:10] <loco_gr> !ubotu xgl
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubotu xgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <KristianDK> How do i install the ubuntu server?
[01:10] <IRCMonkeyX> ! python > ircmonkeyx
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <docta_v> there's probably a way to customize it to look less like windows
[01:10] <KristianDK> !uboto Ubuntu Server
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uboto Ubuntu Server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <KristianDK> !uboto server
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uboto server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <soundray> tomcatt: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[01:11] <soundray> Can you all stop sending malformed commands to ubotu please
[01:11] <loco_gr> !ubotu XGL
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubotu XGL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <KristianDK> ok
[01:11] <KristianDK> How do i install the ubuntu server ?
[01:11] <soundray> !tell loco_gr about xgl
[01:12] <intuosman> hello, can someone point me to a guide on how to remove IPV6 in dapper cleanly?
[01:12] <soundray> KristianDK: boot to the first prompt, then read the help screens (F keys)
[01:13] <KristianDK> ok, it cant be done once installed ? :P
[01:13] <intuosman> guide to removing IPV6 in dapper. anyone? :)
[01:13] <livingdaylig> is there a new version of dapper, i hear?
[01:13] <patpond> should I just read the forums... :/
[01:14] <soundray> KristianDK: server is a reduced installation. What do you want to use your machine for?
[01:14] <CheetahMk2> When I move my mouse over anything, the mouse 'snaps' to nearly everything! Even if I am passing by a button, it's like a gravity well and sucks my mouse pointer right in
[01:14] <jrib> !ipv6
[01:14] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[01:14] <CheetahMk2> How do I turn that off?
[01:14] <intuosman> new version of dapper? i believe it's just "sudo apt-get -y update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade" away
[01:14] <intuosman> ubotu: thanks!
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <soundray> livingdaylig: there is a maintenance release. If you've kept up with the updates, there is nothing else you need to do.
[01:15] <ninogan> guys when i try to edit files or move files to directories in the filesystem folders it says im not root :/ how can i get the correct authority to be able to do this?
[01:16] <KristianDK> ninogan: put "sudo" in front of the command
[01:16] <KristianDK> ninogan: e.g. sudo gedit
[01:16] <ninogan> KristianDK yeah but if i want to do it outside the terminal?
[01:17] <KristianDK> ninogan: Do you mean, to right click and choose "run as root" (or something like) ?
[01:17] <xopher> ninogan, gksu or gksudo
[01:17] <erUSUL> ninogan: sudo
[01:17] <soundray> ninogan: you can run 'gksudo nautilus'
[01:17] <erUSUL> !sudo > ninogan
[01:17] <tomcatt> soundray:  thanks for the link, man  :)
[01:18] <soundray> tomcatt: glad it helped
[01:18] <ninogan> thanks alot guys :)
[01:19] <linux_user400354> is it possible to burn wma music in ubuntu?
[01:19] <Whitefang> hi.
[01:19] <stevejesus> morning all
[01:20] <Whitefang> what do i need to do to get my boot loader to load ubuntu again? i reinstalled windows and everythign sucks now
[01:20] <soundray> !tell Whitefang about grub
[01:20] <hextor> run GRUP
[01:20] <hextor> GRUB
[01:20] <Whitefang> how, all i can do is boot windows
[01:20] <hextor> with the alternate CD
[01:20] <soundray> hextor: read the link that ubotu sent you
[01:20] <soundray> Whitefang: : read the link that ubotu sent you
[01:21] <soundray> sorry hextor
[01:21] <hextor> no problem
[01:21] <dadu> hai
[01:22] <Whitefang> thanks
[01:22] <andi5> hi... i cannot start evolution anymore (firefox barked too, but i update to bon echo), it writes "evolution-smime-WARNING **: Failed all methods for initializing NSS" to the terminal and crashes. any idea what this might be? thanks in advance!
[01:22] <stevejesus> for some reason ALSA has no default sound card defined
[01:23] <stevejesus> my sound works great in most programs, but wont work with alsa mixer and numerous emulators
[01:23] <Inferus> soundray: i've figured out software raiding now =] 
[01:23] <Inferus> its quite easy really!
[01:23] <jimcooncat> looking for a cli program that will look up an action based on the "file" command
[01:23] <soundray> Inferus: well done. Have you looked at the downside, too?
[01:24] <stevejesus> anyone have any alsa problems like htat?
[01:24] <soundray> jimcooncat: like gnome-open ?
[01:24] <Whitefang> heh, i think i might just completely reinstall ubuntu lol
[01:24] <Inferus> soundray what do you mean, downside?
[01:24] <orasis1> Is anyone comfortable with XFCE?
[01:24] <Inferus> having half the disc space? :D
[01:24] <robert_> hm, does anybody have experience with editing /etc/magic?
[01:24] <Whitefang> i don't really have anything on my old installation i need
[01:24] <soundray> Inferus: disadvantages and risks
[01:24] <Inferus> like what?
[01:24] <jimcooncat> soundray, I don't know that package, I just want to open an appropriate editor based on filetype
[01:24] <stevejesus> i cant load timidity as a sound server st boot even, because no default sound card is defined in alsa's config's i guess.  however midi works great using mozplugger to load timidity.
[01:24] <orasis1> What files do I save if I wish to make a CD-R backup of my setup/panel etc?
[01:24] <Whitefang> one question though, has anyone got ventrilo working with wine?
[01:25] <soundray> jimcooncat: it's not a package
[01:25] <orasis1> I cannot get anything working with WINE it keeps telling me something about LC:/WINDOWS/SYSTEM32 - even though the Wine website says I do "not" need to have windows installed to use it..
[01:25] <J_P> mornig all
[01:26] <stevejesus> hi J_P
[01:26] <todd> I was suprised i actually got wine working today
[01:26] <jimcooncat> soundray, I think so, but this is for use on a server, not gnome
[01:26] <todd> fresh install though
[01:26] <todd> lol latest version of wine.
[01:26] <stevejesus> ALSA lib confmisc.c:672:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card 'Audio'
[01:26] <stevejesus> ALSA lib conf.c:3493:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such device
[01:26] <stevejesus> ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
[01:26] <stevejesus> ALSA lib conf.c:3493:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned error: No such device
[01:26] <stevejesus> ALSA lib confmisc.c:1072:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
[01:26] <stevejesus> ALSA lib conf.c:3493:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such device
[01:26] <stevejesus> ALSA lib conf.c:3962:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such device
[01:26] <stevejesus> ALSA lib pcm.c:2102:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
[01:26] <stevejesus> Can't open pcm device 'default'.
[01:26] <todd> I did it with the automatix script.
[01:26] <stevejesus> Couldn't open ALSA pcm device (`s')
[01:26] <jrib> !paste > stevejesus
[01:26] <soundray> stevejesus: stop!
[01:26] <stevejesus> sorry
[01:26] <stevejesus> wont do it gain
[01:26] <zugu> doe anyone know how do I set up a java applet to use ESS?
[01:27] <Inferus> soundray whats wrong with software RAID ?
[01:27] <jimcooncat> I'll go hunting on bash scripting sites, this must be common
[01:28] <soundray> jimcooncat: yes, I think you need to write your own bash script for that. Try the ABS guide (Advanced Bash Scripting)
[01:28] <darkowl> Hello
[01:28] <jimcooncat> ty, soundray
[01:29] <soundray> Inferus: you're doing mirroring, correct?
[01:29] <darkowl> i have a problem... i installed ubuntu server version and set up my connection and its working, but when i run sudo apt-get link2 it doesnt find the package and when i run sudo apt-get install irssi it asks me for cd-rom...what is wrong with it ?
[01:31] <orasis1> irc.freenode.net <-- is that the addy of this server?
[01:31] <jrib> darkowl: comment the cdrom repo from /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:31] <soundray> darkowl: there is no link2 package
 ok,ill go and try that...tnx
 links2
[01:31] <kingman> Hi,Everyone. I can't use qemu with tun/tap with Ubuntu Dapper.I am tried more time,tun/tap also can't running.When I  use user-net all works very fine.I know Ubuntu Dapper supported tun/tap.I am use "modprobe tun" loaded tun,I can finded tun in /dev/net/tun and use lsmod | grep 'tun' yet can see it.I created qemu-ifup file,qemu-ifup is content:#!/bin/sh;sudo /sbin/ifconfig $1 192.168.0.20.I am use "qemu -hda ./archlinux -net nic -net tun" start qemu with r
[01:31] <jrib> darkowl: you'll need universe for links2
[01:31] <zugu> !esd
[01:31] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[01:31] <jrib> !universe > darkowl
 i know what universe is
[01:32] <darkowl> OK,tnx guys...im going to try that...tnx
[01:32] <jrib> darsha: np
[01:33] <CorpseFeeder> i'm back
[01:33] <soundray> Which package installs the Multimedia Systems Selector config item please?
[01:34] <jrib> soundray: gnome-media
[01:34] <RamiKassab> hey guys i've installer mplayer and mozilla-mplayer but still can't stream wmv video on the net off of sites, is there anything I'm still missing?
[01:34] <jrib> soundray: cli command is gstreamer-properties, it no longer shows up on my menu
[01:34] <RamiKassab> is there a setting I need to change within firefox to set the default media player for streaming video?
[01:34] <soundray> jrib: thank you
[01:35] <zugu> !dmix
[01:35] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[01:35] <Ng> jrib: it's hidden by default
[01:35] <CorpseFeeder> i just installed QTParted.. when I run it from the applications menu I get an error window - "No device found. Maybe you're not using root user?" - how do I fix this?
[01:35] <orasis1> Rami, go to your file manger, right click - change default program
[01:35] <XplOzIon> how can i check a folder size from terminal?
[01:35] <Ng> XplOzIon: du -sh /path/to/some/folder
[01:35] <orasis1> Rami, and then you may have to set some up manually within your browser if it happens to fail for some reason
[01:35] <XplOzIon> Ng, thanks ;)
[01:35] <RamiKassab> orasis1: do you know how to do this within firefox?
[01:36] <jrib> RamiKassab: just install only the plugin you want to use and remove any others you have installed
[01:37] <orasis1> If I download new XFCE themes, where do I put them?
[01:37] <RamiKassab> jrib: ok I tried opening a wmv file with mplayer and now it says I'm missing the codecs but I heard sound
[01:37] <RamiKassab> jrib: is there a codec pack for w32 codecs?
[01:37] <jrib> !w32codecs > RamiKassab
[01:38] <M3G4crux> has anyone installed ieee80211 on kernel 2.6.17?
[01:38] <CorpseFeeder> how do i make this qtparted work?
[01:38] <whoppix> heya all :) i would like to know why the package "nvidia-settings" is conflicting with "nvidia-glx"? this seems wrong to me, is that a known bug or something?
[01:38] <soundray> M3G4crux: you should probably ask this in #ubuntu+1
[01:39] <M3G4crux> ubuntu+1?
[01:39] <M3G4crux> ok
[01:39] <soundray> M3G4crux: the channel where edgy is discussed
[01:39] <soundray> !edgy
[01:39] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:39] <M3G4crux> hmmm I have dapper
[01:40] <not-a-bot> hello, I'm looking for a lightweight gnome bittorrent client that remembers downloadsessions and minimizes into an icon for dapper
[01:40] <soundray> M3G4crux: but 2.6.17 is an edgy kernel
[01:40] <lostinc> Is there a way to find out what kind of file system my HD is using?
[01:40] <M3G4crux> and I installed it on my own without packages
[01:40] <not-a-bot> I like freeloader, but it doesn't remeber my downloads ...
[01:40] <M3G4crux> ok, I will ask there, thank you soundray :)
[01:40] <whoppix> lostinc, fdisk should display the file system type
[01:40] <soundray> lostinc: if it's mounted, just enter 'mount'
[01:40] <lostinc> okay thank you
[01:40] <VoX> are there any vnc-over-ssh how-to's?
[01:41] <jrib> !ssh
[01:41] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[01:41] <M3G4crux> has anyone successfully installed Xgl with an nvidia quadro 2500?
[01:41] <jrib> VoX: that's not it, one sec let me find it
[01:41] <soundray> VoX: check out the -tunnel option and the faq in /usr/share/doc/vnc-common
[01:42] <hextor> btw question, how to partition a new USB stick from linux?
[01:42] <whoppix> hm, nobody has any idea about why nvidia-settings is conflicting with nvidia-glx?
[01:42] <lostinc> When I run fdisk on hda1 it reports "Unable to open /dev/hda1"
[01:42] <jrib> whoppix: you don't need it in dapper anymore
[01:43] <CorpseFeeder> anyone know how to make QTParted work? it just tells me it can't find any devices and that i'm not root user?
[01:43] <jrib> whoppix: nvidia-settings that is
[01:43] <soundray> hextor: System-Administration-Disks
[01:43] <soundray> lostinc: run sudo fdisk
[01:43] <Oni-Dracula> question: why would anyone want to refer to themselves as a linux distribution?
[01:43] <whoppix> jrib, uhm im not sure i understand.. you mean nvidia-settings is integrated in nvidia-glx or something?
[01:43] <soundray> CorpseFeeder: run gksudo qtparted
[01:44] <jrib> whoppix: yeah, that's what I meant
[01:44] <Oni-Dracula> that'd be like me changing my name to Ubuntu
[01:44] <alex116> whats my default cups username and password?
[01:44] <whoppix> jrib, ah, i just recognized that i have the binary nvidia-settings in my path :) thx for the help :)
[01:44] <Cale> Does anyone have any recommendations for getting reiser4 to work with dapper? (Disclaimer: I haven't yet installed dapper, but that'll be one of the first things I'll need, since my other drive is reiser4)
[01:44] <soundray> Oni-Dracula: is that an Ubuntu support question?
[01:44] <jrib> VoX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH that's what I was looking for
[01:45] <Oni-Dracula> soundray: no, but relative to this chat room :)
[01:45] <Oni-Dracula> heres a support question: which repo do I need for x-chat 2.6.6?
[01:45] <lostinc> Is there a large difference between Rieser filesystem or EXT3?
[01:46] <VoX> jrib: doesnt quite cover it
[01:46] <orasis1> Is there anyway to change your fonts in GAIM?
[01:46] <soundray> Oni-Dracula: it isn't in any dapper repos
[01:46] <Oni-Dracula> soundray, that's poopy
[01:46] <VoX> i need to ssh from a linux box, through a firewall(easy enough to modify) to a windows desktop
[01:46] <orasis1> nevermind..
[01:46] <soundray> !timetable >Oni-Dracula
[01:47] <alex116> if I try to change settings in http://localhost:631/ it asks me for a password, but root/****** doesn't work :(
[01:47] <soundray> lostinc: stick with ext3, unless you have a *very* good reason to want reiser.
[01:47] <hextor> duuh that was easy
[01:47] <hextor> and how to run a program under another user? is that possible?
[01:48] <Cale> lostinc: I've actually been reasonably happy with both. Apparently reiser4 has rather favourable performance, but I haven't really driven it into the ground. I've heard of people with latency problems, but I haven't had any.
[01:48] <soundray> hextor: sudo su - otheruser program
[01:48] <jrib> VoX: oh, not sure how to set that up on windows.  Maybe someone else knows
[01:48] <lostinc> I am using the drive as a backup drive
[01:48] <hextor> including the - ?
[01:49] <soundray> hextor: yes
[01:49] <soundray> hextor: it ensures that your using the user's environment variables
[01:49] <soundray> s/your/you're/
[01:49] <orasis1> Hextor, yes you can always run them from terminal - or change users
[01:49] <soundray> I hate it when that happens
[01:49] <muro> hello, can someone help me to set the "win" key to be a modifier? It only works as a single key. I didn't find anything on google :-(
[01:50] <jrib> alex116: use system > administration > printing instead.  If you really need the web interface, read the bottom of: /usr/share/doc/cupsys/README.Debian.gz
[01:50] <soundray> VoX: you may need to install sshd under Cygwin in Windows
[01:50] <Cale> but yeah, I'm going to need reiser4 to work, since that's what my second disk is formatted as, and I'm not about to move everything off it to reformat it :)
[01:51] <anabain> anybody with nforce6150/430 has managed to get ethernet connection? I've tried last nvidia driver (script sh NFORCE-foo) but it doesn't work
[01:51] <shaantanu> I have ubuntu 6.06 LTS dapper drake installed on my system . Can anyone temme how do I get KDE instead of GNOME also I wud like to know how do i switch to and fro ....
[01:51] <due> shaantanu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:51] <RamiKassab> jrib: ok I installed the w32 codecs and the files work fine with I play one through the file explorer but when I attempt to stream something through firefox it says (no image)
[01:51] <alex116> jrib I want to share the printer over the network i couldn't find anything in the printing window that would allow me to share
[01:51] <jrib> !kde > shaantanu
[01:51] <due> !kde > due
[01:51] <shaantanu> on the the terminal ??
[01:51] <soundray> shaantanu: for switching, select the option in gdm or kdm (the login window)
[01:52] <Cale> shaantanu: yes, or install that package with Synaptic
[01:52] <anabain> apparently, the eth0 interface is up, but then any ping to another pc in the lan outputs: host unreachable
[01:52] <shaantanu> ok
[01:52] <soundray> alex116: you will need samba for that
[01:52] <soundray> !tell alex116 about samba
[01:52] <ompaul> shaantanu, you can do it in synaptic also (system administartion synaptic package manager) and the switch is done from the login screen on the bottom left
[01:52] <jrib> RamiKassab: are you sure that mplayer-plugin is trying to play the file, not some other player?  You can check what plugins firefox is using by enter "about:plugins" in the address bar
[01:53] <alex116> soundray can't you do it with cups without samba?
[01:53] <hextor> hmm id didnt seem to work though
[01:53] <orasis1> Is there any other way in Linux to list processes by CPU usage.. other then "ps -e -o pcpu,cpu,nice,state,cputime,args --sort pcpu | sed '/^ 0.0 /d'" ??
[01:53] <hextor> it said cannot open display
[01:53] <shaantanu> thanx everyone :)
[01:53] <hextor> hector@hexhost:~$ sudo su - comp xchat-gnome
[01:53] <hextor> Password:
[01:53] <hextor> cannot open display: (null)
[01:53] <hextor> Run 'xchat-gnome --help' to see a full list of available command line options.
[01:53] <soundray> alex116: not for Windows clients
[01:53] <anabain> btw, how can I compile forcedeth? is there any modconf utility in ubuntu?
[01:54] <Cale> orasis1: hehe, I usually just run top if I'm in a hurry to see what's using CPU
[01:54] <soundray> orasis1: 'alias myps="ps -e -o pcpu,cpu,nice,state,cputime,args --sort pcpu | sed '/^ 0.0 /d"', from then on you can just do myps
[01:54] <whoppix> hextor, xchat cant open your display because the user comp dont have permissions to your display
[01:54] <hextor> ohh and how do i do that?
[01:55] <jrib> hextor: and you $DISPLAY variable is probably empty too
[01:55] <whoppix> hextor, im not sure how to do that, but you have to copy your "magic cookie" or something like that from your home to the home of "comp"
[01:55] <soundray> hextor: probably easier to do 'ssh -X comp@localhost xchat-gnome'
[01:55] <whoppix> and $DISPLAY must be correctly too
[01:56] <Cale> yeah, it's way easier to just let ssh take care of X forwarding
[01:56] <soundray> hextor: that would save all the $DISPLAY and cookie stuff. You need to apt-get install ssh
[01:56] <Cale> If you really care, I could probably work out how to actually copy your auth across, but it's kind of a pain
[01:57] <Cale> so at the end of the day, you'd probably still want to use ssh :)
[01:57] <soundray> Cale: maybe just to a 'xhost +localhost' first?
[01:57] <ompaul> hextor, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:57] <ompaul> hextor, then you can ssh into your own machine ;-)
[01:57] <Cale> oh, on the same machine?
[01:57] <RamiKassab> jrib: ok it seems there are other plugins, vlc, realplayer, etc. since I may need some of those, is there just a way to set the default for wmv files in firefox?
[01:57] <sorush20> hi, how do I play back .vob files?
[01:57] <bimberi> hextor: gksu -u comp xchat-gnome
[01:57] <sorush20> !vob
[01:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vob - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <Cale> nevermind then :)
[01:57] <rixxon> does the livecd use grub aswell? i mean i want to try to boot with the noacpi option. or is this set automatically with "failsafe" (whatever it is called)?
[01:58] <jrib> RamiKassab: mplayer plays everything for me, realmedia files included.  All you really need is mplayer with w32codecs and flash
[01:58] <Cale> Somehow I missed the start of that and figured he was trying to run stuff from another box :)
[01:59] <RamiKassab> jrib: ok so just try removing the vlc plugin then?
[01:59] <hextor> alright will give it a try
[01:59] <jrib> RamiKassab: I don't know of a way to actually choose which one firefox prefers, so yes that is what I would do, remove the vlc plugin
[01:59] <Cale> but I guess it would work :)
[01:59] <RamiKassab> jrib: do you know the name apt-get knows the vlc plugin as so I can remove it?
[01:59] <hextor> btw on the partitions front, i can see the usb stick, without partition but both buttons are shaded
[02:00] <jrib> RamiKassab: mozilla-plugin-vlc
[02:00] <soundray> Cale: no, xhost +localhost doesn't do it...
[02:00] <flo> hi, i installed compiz and xgl. is it also possible to change the window border, especially the minimize, maximize and close buttons?
[02:00] <alex116> my resolv.conf is resetting to 192.168.1.1 every 5 minutes what's causing that and what can I do about it?
[02:00] <RamiKassab> jrib: ok thanks, I'll remove it then try
[02:00] <mp_> what is a good tool for uncompressing .ace files?
[02:01] <thoreauputic> alex116: a guess would be dhcp from your router
[02:01] <jrib> soundray: $DISPLAY is set as well?  All I do is run xhost +localhost and then set $DISPLAY
[02:01] <jrib> !info unace
[02:01] <ubotu> unace: extract, test and view .ace archives. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2b-3 (dapper), package size 14 kB, installed size 80 kB
[02:01] <snowblink> alex116, dhcp? You need to edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[02:01] <soundray> alex116: your DHCP server is probably the reason. You need to set a longer lease time.
[02:01] <anabain> does anybody have nforce6150/430
[02:01] <malefactor> Guys, does anyone remember the hex value to use in "int" opcode (assembly) to finsih the program execution (for Win32)?
[02:02] <alex116> I set it to manual configuration
[02:02] <alex116> I set the dns but it it keeps resetting
[02:02] <anabain> is there any modconf utility in ubuntu, please?
[02:02] <soundray> jrib: yes, it's set, still doesn't work. Never mind, xhost +'ing is deprecated anyway, isn't it?
[02:02] <jrib> soundray: oh really, do you know what is preferred?
[02:03] <flo> is it possible to change the window border with xgl and compiz installed?
[02:03] <finalbeta> Does this exist? I have a NAS system (own build) and desktops. I want one folder on the desktop to be monitored and when a file changed it needs to be synced right away with the nas system, so the NAS always has an identical folder
[02:03] <soundray> jrib: X forwarding through ssh is reasonably safe. Other than that, I don't know
[02:04] <finalbeta> Sort of like real time backup
[02:04] <jrib> soundray: does  xhost +local:  work?  I assumed it was equivalent to localhost
[02:05] <ompaul> ** going to unban a large group
[02:05] <prometoys> could somebody give me a hint, which package is responsible for the OSD in GNOME?
[02:05] <soundray> jrib: yes! that works
[02:06] <prometoys> damn, CTRL+W has a complete different meaning in xchat comparing to the bash
[02:06] <soundray> prometoys: what do you mean by OSD?
[02:06] <prometoys> http://www.prometoys.net/downloads/osd-eject.png
[02:06] <prometoys> when you push volume level up/down and mute
[02:06] <prometoys> and eject
[02:07] <ych> ok, I've got a problem here... I switched to ubuntu recently, and my sound quality has drastically decreased... with a lot of songs, when i play them it sounds really bad, like when you have the volume turned up way too high on crappy laptop speakers, and it gets all fuzzy, except the thing is if i play the same song on windows at the same volume it sounds great...... anyone know this problem?
[02:07] <lilbit> I was using synaptic to run updates, and I interrupted it by shutting down my machine, and now after a few reboots, the syaptic process appears to be hung up, I am wondering how you kill such process?
[02:08] <prometoys> ych: what hardware do you use?
[02:08] <ych> onboard sound
[02:08] <ych> realtek thingy
[02:08] <ych> on my asus mobo
[02:08] <thoreauputic> lilbit: you might have to run  sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a
[02:08] <prometoys> lilbit: try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[02:08] <ych> i know people say they sound crappy, but it was better on windows
[02:09] <thoreauputic> oops
[02:09] <thoreauputic> prometoys: your's is right
[02:09] <thoreauputic> *yours
[02:09] <RamiKassab> jrib: all works now, I appreciate the help. Perhaps you may be able to help me with a couple more things
[02:09] <lilbit> ok, will try that, so is that like running update in reverse?
[02:09] <soundray> lilbit: no, it's finishing of left over config tasks
[02:09] <soundray> *off
[02:09] <thoreauputic> lilbit: no, it's a desperate attempt to fix a broken dpkg ;)
[02:10] <jrib> RamiKassab: sure, just ask the channel, and if I can help, I'll try
[02:10] <prometoys> ych: try alsamixer
[02:10] <soundray> thoreauputic: spin doctor ;)
[02:10] <thoreauputic> lilbit: in general, interrupting synaptic/apt/dpkg is A Bad Move (TM)
[02:10] <orasis1> Does anyone use Azereus for their BIt Torrent client?
[02:10] <ych> ok
[02:10] <ompaul> ych, there are several things you can do there - as far as I can figure out you get more access to the sound card under linux try lowering the volume a little (~90% in the player and the onscreen volume ~50% and then use your external volume control to where you want it to be and back it up with the "system volume"
[02:10] <prometoys> ych: I have a apple and it has a weird DRC-Level. Maybe you have something similiar
[02:11] <thoreauputic> soundray: well, it's kind of half true, yeah :)
[02:11] <lilbit> thoreauputic, ok, now I know, thanks
[02:11] <ych> can you apt-get it?
[02:11] <thoreauputic> lilbit: :)
[02:11] <orasis1> I do not understand why Synaptic installs mozilla browser, when it installs Azeurus.. :s
[02:11] <RamiKassab> I am running ubuntu on a laptop and the keyboard has volume controls on it that allow me to turn the volume up and down but ubuntu seperates headphones and master but when I have external speakers/headphones connected, the keyboard volume controls only change the master, which doesn't affect the volume level of external devices, is there a way to link master and headphones in ubuntu or select which of the two the keyboard
[02:11] <RamiKassab>  volume controls will change?
[02:11] <orasis1> Anyone know why?
[02:11] <prometoys> soundray: do you now know what I mean with OSD?
[02:12] <ompaul> orasis1, that would be a dependancy it wants it there because the inital packing person felt it should be there for some reason
[02:12] <ompaul> orasis1, packing/packaging
[02:12] <soundray> prometoys: yes, I do, but I don't have an answer for you, sorry.
[02:12] <ompaul> prometoys, I think you are used to kde is that right?
[02:13] <hextor> shh worked. thanks guyz
[02:13] <prometoys> ompaul: no ;) I use gnome
[02:13] <ompaul> prometoys, just the desktop reminded me of kde
[02:14] <shaantan1> hey guys whener i boot into ubunutu I get a message saying no FSINFO sector not automatically creating it ....
[02:14] <prometoys> ompaul: yeah, i played with the panel
[02:14] <ych> ok, i have system volume at 50 and player at 90, but it still does it
[02:14] <shaantan1> this I get when the system is checking all the filesystems
[02:14] <ych> what is DRC?
[02:14] <shaantan1> I have some disks in FAT32 and some in NTFS
[02:15] <shaantan1> somebody plz help me out
[02:15] <ompaul> !ntfs > shaantan1
[02:15] <thoreauputic> !patience
[02:15] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:15] <lilbit> running sudo dpkg --configure -a did the trick, thanks all of you for your help
[02:15] <shaantan1> !ntfs
[02:15] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:15] <ompaul> shaantan1, the bot send you a message
[02:15] <prometoys> ych: Ignore DRC if you didn't have it, maybe a special apple hardware case
[02:15] <ompaul> shaantan1, in fact that message
[02:15] <orasis1> Does anyone know how to install XFCE/GTK themes?
[02:16] <ompaul> orasis1, #xubuntu should be useful there
[02:16] <shaantan1> ompaul ... actually everything works fine ... and i m able to see all the partitions when ubuntu finally starts
[02:16] <thoreauputic> orasis1: a start is install gnome-art and gnome-themes-extras
[02:16] <ych> well i believe its not hardware, since win played fine on this machine
[02:16] <ych> driver if anything
[02:16] <ych> but you'd think if sound is playing, the driver is there
[02:16] <thoreauputic> orasis1: you can use gnome themes in xfce
[02:16] <shaantan1> just the way it shows no fsinfo sector found .. I think its not normal
[02:17] <thoreauputic> shaantan1: is evrything working normally? It might just be a warning
[02:17] <shaantan1> ! fsinfo
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsinfo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <Joshier> What do you guys think of a user-driven tagged system?.. People submit tags on individual packages in synaptic and when users type in a program they want (e.g. Cubase) they find the closest app which is most similar, in this case it would turn up Rosegarden, an app very similar to cubase for the PC.
[02:18] <cyh_> can anyone give me a hand with a rt2500 USB wifi car (asus 167g) i doesn't seem to show up when i do an "ifconfig -a"
[02:18] <ych> it's weird, it sounds like its a really bad mp3, but it's ripped in 192~256 VBR
[02:18] <ompaul> shaantan1, does >> sudo fdisk -l << tell you anything else you might want to know?
[02:19] <hume> cyh_, you got the appropriate models loaded?
[02:19] <ompaul> ych, have a look at the audio files in the "examples" directory
[02:19] <sysdoc> Joshier, sounds like a pretty cool idea
[02:19] <cyh_> hume: i think so but how do i check, and how do i do it manually?
[02:19] <hextor> joshier=why do you need the OS to do that? a webpage with a listing would suffice
[02:20] <hextor> i would rather know what is found before typing in apt commnads
[02:20] <todd> Anyone have any clue what this means?
[02:20] <todd> ** (process:12031): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[02:21] <todd> There's several different process numbers, and the error keeps repeating in the Terminal, while doing apt-install of gnome-desktop.
[02:21] <alex116> looks like a function with parameters that failed
[02:22] <cyh_> hume: so it would be like "modprobe -a rt2500"
[02:22] <todd> What does that mean to me? Something is broken... didnt install right? or..
[02:22] <ych> ok I'll look at those, ompaul
[02:22] <alex116> I dont know either
[02:22] <todd> Hmm.
[02:22] <todd> Wonder if its bad lol.
[02:22] <alex116> does gnome-desktop work?
[02:23] <todd> Haven't tried it yet, still in KDE.
[02:23] <thoreauputic> no such package as gnome-desktop - I think you mean ubuntu-desktop
[02:23] <todd> Have a few torrents going.
[02:23] <thoreauputic> !info gnome-desktop
[02:23] <ubotu> Package gnome-desktop does not exist in dapper
[02:23] <todd> umm. just a sec.
[02:23] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:23] <wide-eye> has anyone seen/heard of the "ipw3945" service to go nuts and use 100% cpu after booting?
[02:23] <todd> Setting up gnome-desktop-environment (2.12.2.3) ...
[02:23] <cyh_> dmesg | grep usb ---> "usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2"
[02:23] <thoreauputic> ah, OK
[02:24] <alex116> heh im just saying if it works it can't be that bad :D
[02:24] <todd> That IS what I installed. Argh, Should have done ubuntu-desktop?
[02:24] <thoreauputic> todd: it's usual
[02:24] <cyh_> so the usb wifi car is showns there but doesn't want to come up for "ifconfig -a"
[02:25] <Joshier> hextor, I've always wanted a feature in synaptic to enable me to type in a windows program (or popular program on either OSX and so on) to jump to the next similar program on linux
[02:25] <thoreauputic> todd: but installing that package shouldn't break anything afaik :)
[02:25] <wide-eye> ipw3945 is the intel wifi card...
[02:25] <todd> oh ok
[02:25] <todd> Well I am going to log out and try these...
[02:25] <thoreauputic> todd: just install ubuntu-desktop - that should get you a standard Ubuntu gnome
[02:26] <todd> ok.
[02:26] <todd> will it uninstall ..or tke care of wha i already did?
[02:26] <ych> ok, the samples sound allright, ompaul
[02:26] <thoreauputic> todd: did you install Ubuntu or Kubuntu or what ?
[02:26] <ych> it seems to happen with the more bassy songs
[02:26] <Joshier> hextor:  It's not just alternative apps either. Sometimes I type in 'sequencer' or 'cubase' and no results will popup, this is why I feel a tag system is much needed for synaptic. THere are some really brilliant linux apps out there that just aren't popular, people should be able to check them out.
[02:26] <ych> as if the speakers couldn't support it
[02:27] <todd> I installed kubuntu as base
[02:27] <todd> then ..installed gnome-desktop with apt-get
[02:27] <Whitefang> hi
[02:27] <thoreauputic> todd: apt/synaptic is pretty smart - it shoud take care of you :)
[02:27] <todd> alright
[02:27] <Whitefang> i just loaded my ubuntu installer cd and the resolution is too low to click ok on the installer
[02:27] <thoreauputic> todd: then just install ubuntu-desktop
[02:28] <todd> IT's going now.
[02:28] <wide-eye> ych, have you checked your volume settings? over 80 generally is too much
[02:28] <orasis1> How do I install GNOME from Xubuntu?
[02:28] <ych> theyre at 60
[02:28] <abrocadabro> I recompile my kernel. everything loaded fine except it got stuck after rc.local is excuted, just before I get a shell, any ideas where went wrong?
[02:28] <orasis1> apt-get install gnome?
[02:28] <ych> and the player is at around 85
[02:28] <thoreauputic> orasis1: install ubuntu-desktop
[02:29] <rsk> orasis1: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:29] <ompaul> ych, find a player with a graphic equaliser - xmms is one there are others (but that is the one I use ... )
[02:29] <ych> i have the speakers turned up though
[02:29] <tuxtux> ciao
[02:29] <wide-eye> ych, alsamixer?
[02:29] <ych> yes
[02:29] <orasis1> rsk, hrmm will that destroy my XFCE?
[02:29] <thoreauputic> orasis1: no
[02:29] <ych> i set every single volume on alsa mixer to the green area
[02:29] <rsk> orasis1: no
[02:29] <ych> so basically <70
[02:29] <orasis1> Alright so I can have my cake and eat it too? :)
[02:29] <thoreauputic> orasis1: you will have a session choice at the login screen
[02:29] <ompaul> ych, well there are notes you can't play if you have not got the speaker for them - and if your tweeters are fed some bass when they should not they will make that sound
[02:30] <todd> Hooray, I am installing ubuntu-desktop too.
[02:30] <rsk> orasis1: you can have how much window managers and desktops you wont
[02:30] <orasis1> Alright and to get rids of it same concept? apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop?
[02:30] <thoreauputic> orasis1: you can install as many desktops/ window managers as you like
[02:30] <rsk> want*
[02:30] <orasis1> Very cool
[02:30] <orasis1> :)
[02:30] <cyh_> how do you manually add a usbdevice if it isn't automatically added whn you plug it in?
[02:30] <thoreauputic> orasis1: no, it's a metapackage
[02:30] <todd> orasis1: I downloaded fluxbox too.
[02:30] <cyh_> assumeing you have the module
[02:30] <Daniel0> hey, how can you set what you wan't as your default desktop enviroment?
[02:30] <todd> sudo apt-get install flubox heh
[02:30] <ych> well, as i mentioned windows played it fine
[02:30] <orasis1> Thor, what does that mean?
[02:30] <todd> without the heh though lol
[02:30] <orasis1> Metapackage - cannot uninstall?
[02:30] <Whitefang> i just loaded my ubuntu installer cd and the resolution is too low to click ok on the installer, i tried changing my rez, but 640x480 is the only option
[02:30] <todd> just in case you want another WM to play with.
[02:30] <wide-eye> ych, i had some crap from a cheap sb-live cause it was using a different input frequency then most do
[02:30] <hextor> Daniel=under sessions
[02:30] <ompaul> orasis1, thoreauputic forgot to mention that it is limited by your disk space and imagination - you can build your own
[02:30] <ych> so the question would be why the bass isn't going to my subwoofer
[02:31] <thoreauputic> orasis1: removing ubuntu-desktop won't remove anything but a list of dependencies
[02:31] <wide-eye> ych, had to mess with alsa settings to fix it
[02:31] <ych> hmmmm
[02:31] <hextor> Daniel=it will tell you whether to use for one session or always
[02:31] <thoreauputic> ompaul: heh - true :)
[02:31] <Daniel0> hextor: at the login screen?
[02:31] <ych> what did you change in alsa?
[02:31] <orasis1> Thor, so how would I remove ubuntu-desktop? if I decide I do not want to waste my space on Gnome?
[02:32] <ych> ok, one more thing
[02:32] <wide-eye> ych, /etc/asoundrc, but do you have the woofer on a different channel?
[02:32] <thoreauputic> orasis1: a bit tricky - you can remove gtk2 libraries or use deborphan/debfoster
[02:32] <ych> no not really
[02:32] <calloc> if i wanna run something through the php binary, how can i do this in ubuntu..seems to be a weird config
[02:32] <ych> its a 2.1 system
[02:32] <RamiKassab> hey guys what do I need to do to get wpa working on my wireless card in ubuntu?
[02:32] <due> calloc: php -f filename
[02:32] <ych> attached to a single 3.5mm jack
[02:32] <due> calloc: check php --help, -f might be the wrong flag.
[02:32] <ych> one more thing, the sound sounds a good bit better played with xmms instead of totem
[02:32] <orasis1> Thor, lol ok well whatever if it messes up - I will simply re-install thats all I have nothing important on my system yet... ;D
[02:33] <thoreauputic> orasis1: but removing gtk2 libs will also remove xfce stuff, by the way
[02:33] <ych> except totem is the only player that works over LAN
[02:33] <calloc> due, -bash: php: command not found
[02:33] <thoreauputic> orasis1: if you have space, havinggnome won't hurt anyway :)
[02:33] <due> calloc: php isn't installed or in your path, then. install it.
[02:33] <thoreauputic> orasis1: I have gnome. xfce4, fluxbox, KDE....
[02:33] <calloc> php is installed
[02:34] <due> calloc: which php
[02:34] <ompaul> ych, 'ssh -X user@comp xmms ' ?
[02:34] <orasis1> Thor nice, Yeah I have noticed a lot of people have been experimenting ;) - so far I have found XFCE to be quite to me liking, I cant stand KDE and its been a while since I used Gnome...
[02:34] <calloc> due, returns nothing
[02:34] <RamiKassab> hey guys is wpa supplicant the only sollution to getting wpa to work on an intel wireless card within ubuntu?
[02:34] <ych> the files are on a windows machine ATM
[02:34] <due> calloc: then php isn't in your path. :)
[02:34] <thoreauputic> orasis1: I'm a fluxbox fan myself :)
[02:35] <calloc> due, how do i change that?
[02:35] <hunger> Does somebody know how I can make sure nobody ever hibernates a mashine?
[02:35] <due> do you need phpx-cli to run stuff via commandline? I didn't think so.
[02:35] <orasis1> How do I install Fluxbox? - sudo apt-get install fluxbox ?
[02:35] <thoreauputic> hunger: threaten themwith a large club
[02:35] <due> orasis1: yes.
[02:35] <wide-eye> ych, i would say use a sample that is local to test it, mplayer or something is pretty reliable
[02:35] <thoreauputic> orasis1: yup
[02:36] <orasis1> This is too easy...
[02:36] <orasis1> :P
[02:36] <ych> yeah, actually it sounds better when its local
[02:36] <ych> even using toem
[02:36] <hunger> thoreauputic: Them? The policy daemons?
[02:36] <ych> totem
[02:36] <wide-eye> ych using samba or ?
[02:36] <due> calloc: it would appear that you need to install the -cli package. install php5-cli and you're home and hosed :) or 4, if you want 4 (ew).
[02:36] <thoreauputic> thoreauputic:  <<-- was joking
[02:36] <ych> i am using samba here, its just windows network on the remote machine
[02:36] <orasis1> Well lets try FLuxbox, brb
[02:37] <hunger> thoreauputic: Damn users... live could be fun without those bastards;-)
[02:37] <ych> think it would work better if i used NFS on the remote machine?
[02:37] <docta_v> you need a LART
[02:37] <ych> or rather sound better
[02:37] <thoreauputic> hunger: yes, it's like hospitals would run better without all those patients in the way
[02:38] <wide-eye> ych, ok, you might look to increase the buffer, dont know about nfs on windows
[02:38] <ych> docta_v you mean me?
[02:38] <ych> hmm well i don't either, but i wanna put linux on to the remote machine
[02:38] <ych> just that i cant do that right yet
[02:38] <ych> but if you think it could get better once i have linux with nfs
[02:38] <ych> i can wait
[02:38] <due> orasis1: :)
[02:39] <orasis1> Yes, yes this is pretty nice :D
[02:39] <thoreauputic> orasis1: when in doubt, right click
[02:39] <orasis1> Hehehe
[02:40] <thoreauputic> orasis1: are you in fluxbox?
[02:40] <orasis1> Yes. yes I am :) now Im going to figure out how to install the themes for Fluxbox
[02:40] <todd> Heh, orasis1 - im about to get into fluxbox.
[02:40] <todd> Just installed gnome ... not sure if its broke or not lol
[02:40] <thoreauputic> orasis1: lots of good docs linked on http://fluxbox.org
[02:41] <orasis1> todd, its pretty nice ;D
[02:41] <orasis1> very lightweight - Gnome, I will do later on this evening... 774 megs :s
[02:41] <wide-eye> ych, samba should work, mp3's are not much data to put over the network, unless there is something really slow about the network
[02:42] <wide-eye> ych, that would show with any file transfer
[02:42] <ych> yeah, it was working over the same connection with windows on both ends, so maybe.... well i dont know
[02:42] <orasis1> I stopped trying to get samba going, I found a better quicker way.. just install a FTP server on your windows machine and linux machine ;)
[02:42] <todd> yea, used fluxbox before but havent had a chance to customize it
[02:42] <orasis1> Sure its probably a security risk, but I do not have any "Sensitive" data anyways
[02:42] <thoreauputic> orasis1: if you want *really* lightweight, run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop ( don't try this at home, kids)
[02:43] <ych> I can move a 4MB mp3 in like 4 seconds
[02:43] <ych> so the network is definitely fast enough to copy
[02:43] <todd> thoreauputic: what does that do?
[02:43] <ych> dunno why its so retarded when i stream
[02:43] <orasis1> Thor, I do not think im going to try that for now.. I broke Ubuntu yesterday haha that was enough for this week
[02:43] <todd> I broke ubuntu 4 times last week.
[02:43] <thoreauputic> todd: drops you to a black screen with a prompt :)
[02:43] <wide-eye> ych, try mplayer file.mp3
[02:43] <todd> ah ...
[02:43] <todd> well im going to see if i can get into another WM.
[02:43] <todd> wish me luck
[02:44] <orasis1> Well at least console in LInux you can actually do things, dropping to command in windows is useless ..
[02:44] <towolf> salve, which package is responsible for pcmcia card handling in edgy? pcmcia-cs or pcmciautils?
[02:44] <thoreauputic> todd: you can easily gey back with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start though
[02:44] <thoreauputic> *get
[02:44] <todd> I want to know ... how to protect my system  from myself lol
[02:44] <todd> I want to mess with XGL.compiz ect
[02:44] <ych> whats the path to a file on samba?
[02:44] <todd> which has to do with video drivers that suck...and GUI not booting lol
[02:44] <wide-eye> ych, try mounting it first
[02:44] <thoreauputic> todd: try listening to Mozart - it increases your IQ ;-)
[02:45] <ych> it seems to be mounted
[02:45] <todd> Wonder if there is system restore type app
[02:45] <ych> since theres an unmount option
[02:45] <todd> I dont like classical music lol.
[02:45] <thoreauputic> todd: there you go - that's your problem rigt there ;P
[02:45] <thoreauputic> *right
[02:46] <todd> Nah, its the lack of sleep lol.
[02:46] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:46] <_Indy_> Hello. Where can I find mod_python as a debian package? (a .deb file)
[02:46] <todd> Its like 9am here. Been up since 2pm yesturday.
[02:46] <orasis1> So, do I simply extract themes for fluxbox to /?
[02:46] <orasis1> seems like it
[02:46] <thoreauputic> orasis1: no
[02:46] <todd> ... wonder how long that's been. I'd count but ... so much effort.
[02:46] <towolf> has anyone seen this detection problem?: cs: pcmcia_socket1: cardbus cards are not supported.
[02:46] <wide-eye> ych, i'd suggest typing mount in a term, that would show it and where it's mounted
[02:46] <thoreauputic> orasis1: either in ~/.fluxbox or /usr/share/fluxbox somewhere IIRC
[02:47] <wide-eye> orasis1, probably ~/.fluxbox/themes/
[02:47] <thoreauputic> orasis1: read the docs at fluxbox.org - seriously - they are excellent
[02:47] <ych> doesnt really show up if i do that
[02:47] <ych> so how would i mount it?
[02:47] <todd> Heh, neat.
[02:47] <todd> I have Gnome AND KDE running at once.
[02:48] <thoreauputic> orasis1: wide-eye ~/.fluxbox/styles actually
[02:48] <todd> ...heh going to start fluxbox now lmao
[02:48] <bimberi> _Indy_: either libapache_mod_python or libapache2_mod_python
[02:48] <_Indy_> bimberi: ok, thx :-)
[02:48] <orasis1> Well I guess I did the long one - I tared to desktop, and then cp -r to /usr/share/fluxbox/styles
[02:48] <bimberi> _Indy_: np :)
[02:48] <thoreauputic> orasis1: should work I think
[02:49] <thoreauputic> orasis1: that's for "global" settings
[02:49] <lostinc> is there a channel for OGG VOrbis?
[02:49] <thoreauputic> orasis1: for all users
[02:49] <_Indy_> bimberi:
[02:49] <_Indy_> Hello. Where can I find mod_python as a debian package? (a .deb file)
[02:49] <_Indy_> sorry
[02:49] <_Indy_> typo
[02:49] <_Indy_> bimberi:
[02:49] <rx_> is it possible to output the list of packages that are installed on my ubuntu box? i want to compare 2 box with a package per package approach
[02:49] <_Indy_> indy@armada:~$ sudo apt-get install libapache2_mod_python
[02:49] <_Indy_> Reading package lists... Done
[02:49] <_Indy_> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:49] <_Indy_> E: Couldn't find package libapache2_mod_python
[02:49] <thoreauputic> !find mod_python
[02:49] <ubotu> No packages matching 'mod_python' could be found
[02:49] <mopflite> lostinc: #vorbis - irc.freenode.net I believe
[02:50] <rx_> or is it possible to go back to a base install state without reinstalling?
[02:50] <thoreauputic> bah what happened to ubotu? he's supposed to search the database for files too
[02:50] <wide-eye> ych, sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=YOURUSER,password=YOURPASSWORD //YOURSERVER/SHARE /newhome
[02:50] <wide-eye> ych, there may be a gui that helps...dunno
[02:50] <bimberi> _Indy_ (and thoreauputic): my apologies, they should be hyphens not underscores :)
[02:51] <_Indy_> ok
[02:51] <sirjohn> soundray?? still having dificulties with that soundblaster card btw.
[02:51] <_Indy_> bimberi: thank you, now it works :)
[02:51] <bimberi> _Indy_: phew! ;P
[02:51] <orasis1> Thor, yeah but since I am the only one who uses this PC it doesn't make much of a difference if its in ./fluxbox or /usr/share/flux/styles
[02:51] <thoreauputic> orasis1: true
[02:52] <ych> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //server/Files,
[02:52] <ych>        missing codepage or other error
[02:52] <ych>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[02:52] <ych>        dmesg | tail  or so
[02:52] <thoreauputic> ;)
[02:53] <thoreauputic> ych: and did you try what it said?
[02:53] <ych> [17265664.952000]  smbfs: mount_data version 1919251317 is not supported
[02:54] <wide-eye> ych, might try smbmount //comp/share /path/to/mount/dir/
[02:54] <cr3> where did Applications->Sound & Video->Volume Control go between breezy and dapper?
[02:55] <orasis1> thoreauputic: ... yeah I keep forgetting about that shortcut ;D
[02:55] <orasis1> Im playing with styles :D :D
[02:55] <ych> sudo: smbmount: command not found
[02:55] <thoreauputic> orasis1: iy becomes a reflex after a while
[02:55] <thoreauputic> hmm s/iy/it
[02:55] <DrkLrd> yipeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!! I will showcase Edubuntu and ubuntu at my School Exhibition! any tips u guys have for me? :)
[02:55] <orasis1> Ych, if you simply want to exchange files over a network why waste time on Samba, simply install an ftp server on the windows machine - and on your Linux machine if you wish to take files from there also ;)
[02:55] <morphix> hmm.. i followed a guide on a website for making ubuntu autologin as a user, it auto logs into shell but startx doesnt automatically load
[02:56] <cr3> ych: you need the smbfs package
[02:56] <Chousuke> DrkLrd: Practise the presentation
[02:56] <morphix> anyone know how to make startx start up without needing any user/pass entry, etc
[02:56] <DrkLrd> Chousuke, yup doind that mate
[02:56] <wide-eye> ych, apt-get install smbfs
[02:56] <nazgul> anybody successfully running a Gnome 2.15 session with JHBUILD on Dapper? gnome-settings-daemon does not start for me automatically. furthermore I have HAL problems
[02:56] <DrkLrd> anything else?
[02:56] <Chousuke> DrkLrd: Heh.
[02:56] <ych> ya
[02:57] <ych> doing that allready
[02:57] <ych> k
[02:57] <ych> 15619: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnosuchshare (You specified an invalid share name)
[02:58] <skyerce> join #ubuntu-cn
[02:58] <ych> xept im sure its the right name
[02:58] <wide-eye> ych, spaces?
[02:59] <ych> it has no spaces
[02:59] <ych> i tried it on one without
[02:59] <skyerce> oh , firefox "eat" my ram! no!
[03:00] <skyerce> how to join chinese ubuntu xchat?
[03:03] <morzel> re
[03:03] <shaantan1> hey guys whener i boot into ubunutu I get a message saying no FSINFO sector not automatically creating it ....this I get when the system is checking all the filesystems  I have some disks in FAT32 and some in NTFS somebody plz help me out                      ... actually everything works fine ... and i m able to see all the partitions when ubuntu finally starts just the way it shows no fsinfo sector found .. I think its not normal
[03:04] <shaantan1> anybody ... help me out ??
[03:05] <sirjohn> has anyone got a soundblaster 16 module no ct4170 working ?
[03:05] <wide-eye> ych, does "smbclient -L comp" show the share?
[03:05] <void^> sirjohn: isa sb16?
[03:05] <guillote_GNU> shaantan1, probably there is an error in one of the partitions
[03:05] <sharperguy> shaantan1, have you tryed running fsck?
[03:05] <shaantan1> how do i fix that ??
[03:05] <guillote_GNU> M$ is specially shitful in disk usage
[03:05] <shaantan1> fschk u mean ??
[03:06] <hawk> Stupid question maybe, but what is the proper way to select what locales to generate? "dpkg-reconfigure locales" was my first shot, but that apparently just regenerates the already chosen locales...?
[03:06] <elkbuntu> !language
[03:06] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:06] <guillote_GNU> dunno, probably u'll have to repartition again
[03:06] <guillote_GNU> anyway, if everything works fine leave it that way
[03:06] <guillote_GNU> ok ubotu
[03:06] <shaantan1> yaa thats what i m doing
[03:06] <guillote_GNU> i'm beeing friendly
[03:06] <shaantan1> but just if it cud be removed
[03:07] <Nimwei-> When i used Totem, I get "Totem failed to startup. Cannot establish connection with sound server." Any ideas on how to fix or get it not to require a sound server?
[03:07] <guillote_GNU> i know what u mean, those messages are annoying
[03:07] <shaantan1> hey sharperguy .. what shud i lookout for in fschk
[03:07] <shaantan1> damn annoying
[03:07] <sharperguy> its always been fsck when i've used it
[03:07] <shaantan1> ok
[03:07] <shaantan1> what shud i look out for ??
[03:08] <guillote_GNU> but doesnt mean is something wrong with ur system
[03:08] <shaantan1> i dunno but last time it showed me this msg "no fsinfo ..." has been shown 30 times now , so some check wud be carried out
[03:09] <shaantan1> sharperguy ... it says
[03:09] <shaantan1> warning :blah blah blah
[03:09] <sharperguy> oh right
[03:09] <sharperguy> umm
[03:09] <shaantan1>  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
[03:10] <shaantan1> SEVERE filesystem damage.
[03:10] <sharperguy> yea
[03:10] <wide-eye> shaantan1, run "shutdown -Fr now" to reboot and check everything
[03:10] <sharperguy> ok, is its a problem with fat32 and/or ntfs try dosfsck
[03:11] <shaantan1> how do i fix it ??
[03:11] <sharperguy> I think it useually asks you if you want to fix automatticaly
[03:11] <shaantan1> but it didint
[03:11] <sharperguy> not at bootup though
[03:11] <djcabz> what is the correct package to install if I want the kernel headers for my currently running kernel?  is it "linux-kernel-headers" or do I have to manually match up my running kernel with a selection in synaptic?
[03:11] <Gnonthgol> Anyone having problems with Blender?
[03:12] <sharperguy> Gnonthgol, yes
[03:12] <shaantan1> usage: dosfsck [-aAflrtvVwy]  [-d path -d ...]  [-u path -u ...] 
[03:12] <scenestar>  x)
[03:12] <Gnonthgol> sharperguy: What problems?
[03:13] <ych> wide-eye no it doesnst
[03:13] <sharperguy> Gnonthgol, buggy gui & kiling xserver mostly
[03:13] <morphix> How do i make startx execute upon logining into shell from a certain user, i tried adding to ~/.bash_profile but that still doesnt work :(
[03:13] <pequatre> djcabz, "linux-headers-`uname -r`" (it's " ` " not " ' ")
[03:13] <ych> well, you know what i'll just see if i can set up linux on my server, its more reliable anyway
[03:13] <sharperguy> shaantan1, try wide-eye's suggestion
[03:14] <Gnonthgol> sharperguy: Did you have problems selecting objects or something?
[03:14] <Nimwei-> When i used Totem, I get "Totem failed to startup. Cannot establish connection with sound server." Any ideas on how to fix or get it not to require a sound server?
[03:14] <djcabz> pequatre:  I understand I need to match them.  I'll do that.  Thanks.
[03:14] <sharperguy> Gnonthgol, yes, but I assumed it was because I dont know how to use it very well
[03:15] <jatt> Nimwei-: are you using totem-gstreamer or totem-xine?
[03:16] <Nimwei-> jatt - Whatever is standard built in with the Ubuntu GDM package.
[03:16] <fistmaster>  !w32codecs
[03:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:16] <Nimwei-> jatt - I cannot get totem to stay open to check exactly. Is there a filesystem or other means of finding out which version?
[03:16] <jatt> Nimwei-: so probably totem-gstreamer, which is widely known to be bloated and buggy (do its gstreamer dependency). Try to install use totem-xine instead which works.
[03:17] <Nimwei-> Sure.  Isn't there a dpkg command I can do to check for the totem-gstreamer package?
[03:17] <jatt> Nimwei-: dpkg -l | grep totem
[03:18] <Nimwei-> jatt - Thanks, I'll try that and get back to you.
[03:18] <Diegote> Hi, all. I just installed nvidia-glx. It works, but I cannot get 1280x1024 resolution, it only allows up to 1024x168.
[03:18] <Nimwei-> Diegote, your monitor also has to support the resolution.
[03:19] <jatt> Nimwei-: ok, you have plenty of alternatives: vlc, mplayer, xine or totem-xine. But totem-gstreamer, well you can google a bit to see how gstreamer is a total disaster.
[03:19] <Diegote> Nimwei-: It does, it is a Samsung 740N TFT
[03:19] <Nimwei-> !fixres
[03:19] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:19] <Nimwei-> Try that, Diegote.
[03:20] <Diegote> Nimwei-: where? command line?
[03:20] <PurpleTen> hey guys, i just downloaded ubuntu server 6.06.1 im tryin to install it to my server which currently has redhat
[03:20] <PurpleTen> but its not booting to the cd
[03:20] <fistmaster> =)
[03:20] <PurpleTen> bios is set to boot from cd
[03:20] <Nimwei-> Diegote, no - read that URL.
[03:20] <Nimwei-> !fixres > Diegote
[03:20] <fistmaster> bad iso format ?
[03:20] <sharperguy> try burning the disk at a slower speed
[03:20] <rsk> PurpleTen: you probably burned it wrong
[03:20] <PurpleTen> :S
[03:20] <PurpleTen> it was an iso tho
[03:20] <rsk> PurpleTen: burn it as an bootable iso and at slower speed
[03:20] <PurpleTen> i just used nero
[03:21] <PurpleTen> :S how does that work
[03:21] <Nimwei-> jatt - You were right. I'm running totem-gstreamer. I'll remove it and install totem-xine.
[03:21] <rsk> and make sure the bios goes for the cd first
[03:21] <rsk> PurpleTen: how does what work?
[03:21] <wide-eye> PurpleTen, md5sum /dev/cdrom/ and compare w/ the iso img
[03:21] <PurpleTen> i just use the nero image to disk
[03:21] <Diegote> Nimwei-: Ok, thanks!
[03:21] <rsk> you should use "burn to image"
[03:21] <PurpleTen> yep
[03:21] <rsk> or "burn image"
[03:22] <wide-eye> PurpleTen, set nero to verify after write next time
[03:22] <PurpleTen> thats what i use
[03:22] <rsk> whatever its called theese days
[03:22] <PurpleTen> ohk, ill try burin it @ low speed
[03:22] <PurpleTen> n verifying it
[03:22] <wide-eye> PurpleTen, unless you have some error msg you're holding out on us?
[03:22] <PurpleTen> ermm not
[03:22] <martoss> hi there
[03:22] <PurpleTen> it just boots into redhat
[03:22] <Inferus> lo
[03:22] <PurpleTen> and not to the cd
[03:23] <sharperguy> you could also try iso powertoy, which allows you to right click an iso and hit burn
[03:23] <sharperguy> never tryed it myself
[03:23] <Inferus> bios set to boot from cdrom and not hdd PurpleTen?
[03:23] <Nimwei-> I'm new to linux obviously, without having to search through PAGES of docs, can someone give me the brief overview on a windows comparison as to what system directories in linux are associated to Windows, i.e. c:\windows\system = /etc/what?
[03:23] <PurpleTen> yes incandenza
[03:23] <PurpleTen> yes Inferus*
[03:23] <Inferus> Nimwei linux doesnt work like that
[03:23] <seshomaru> hello, can anyone help me solve a DNSproblem?
[03:23] <Inferus> Nimwei:
[03:23] <Inferus> http://www.freeos.com/articles/3102/
[03:24] <martoss> seshomaru: go on
[03:24] <Nimwei-> Inferus - Thanks. I'll read up.
[03:24] <martoss> seshomaru: what's wrong?
[03:24] <Nimwei-> I was just asking because I know that /etc/init.d sort of acts like the windows startup file.
[03:24] <jatt> Nimwei-: many dynamic shared objects (DSOs) which are (sort of) the equivalent of windows dlls are stored in the libs directories (e.g. /usr/lib)
[03:24] <PurpleTen> is there anytin else i should try b4 i go burn anotyher cd?
[03:24] <seshomaru> martoss . my resolv.conf gets overwritten whenever i reboot - it turns blanc
[03:24] <jatt> Nimwei-: there is no "system directory" as in Windows though. The directory structure is totally different.
[03:24] <seshomaru> i mean empty
[03:25] <bjames> hi all I have a problem
[03:25] <martoss> seshomaru: do you want a static setup?
[03:25] <x_O> Argh, cant figure out how to get this gnome theme to install....
[03:25] <x_O> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=24229
[03:25] <x_O> Hmm.
[03:25] <bjames> I run Ubuntu and just installed Kdevelop and when I try to "move to trash" a file in the file viewer (in kdevelop) it gives me an error
[03:25] <seshomaru> weli mean - is that natural?
[03:25] <RadiantFire> x_O: is it giving you errors? if it is, just give up and complain to the author
[03:26] <Nimwei-> jatt - Gotcha.  So if I were to want to modify my "Places, System, and Applications" menu up at top, where might the configuration for that be stored?  I'm trying to learn as much as possible through other's opinions and experiences rather than http://YoureAlinuxDumbass.com
[03:26] <Pupeno> Hello.
[03:26] <Pupeno> my wife is doing some work in which she pastes lot's of text from mails and other places, most of the on UTF-8 and pastes it on lyx, but Lyx uses Latin-1, so she ends up with a lot of weird characters. Any ideas how to solve the problem ? something that is agile ?
[03:26] <martoss> seshomaru: If yes, deinstall resolveconf and create a /etc/resolv.conf by hand
[03:26] <fistmaster> Can somebody give me a good depot's list?
[03:26] <wide-eye> seshomaru, if you use dhcp on your interfaces, dhcp will replace it
[03:26] <x_O> RadiantFire: I don't know HOW to install it.
[03:26] <seshomaru> martoss - what if my ISPchanges the dNS?
[03:26] <RadiantFire> Pupeno: you may be able to set the thing you are using to use a C local rather than UTF-8
[03:26] <x_O> Dunno if it will give me errors or not.
[03:27] <RadiantFire> x_O: open the theme window from system->preferences
[03:27] <martoss> can this be the reason why direct rendering says "no" :(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x32 ?
[03:27] <seshomaru> wide-eye - so why it becomes blanc when i reboot?
[03:27] <bjames> does anyone know anything about using kdevelop on Ubuntu????
[03:27] <x_O> What do I do to install it? Its a zip file, I unpacked it... there's just folders with ...
[03:27] <sharperguy> Nimwei, try episode #11 of linux reality : http://www.linuxreality.com/2006/04
[03:27] <RadiantFire> x_O: and then drag and drop the fully packed archive onto the theme window
[03:27] <x_O> gah, ok lol
[03:27] <PurpleTen> http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=08142006232655za5.png < does that look right guys?
[03:27] <martoss> seshomaru, is resolv.conf a link or a file?
[03:27] <RadiantFire> or use the "install theme" button
[03:27] <Pupeno> RadiantFire: I do not want not to use UTF-8, I've been slowly turning everything into UTF-8, I won't go back, it is monthes of work.
[03:27] <x_O> file format invalid
[03:27] <seshomaru> martoss file
[03:28] <jatt> Nimwei-: for menus, gnome provides menu editors. I haven't tried them myself. One very known is Alacarte.
[03:28] <RadiantFire> x_O: did u unpack it first, cuz that is wrong
[03:28] <seshomaru> the problem is that if it turns blanc i loose my internet access
[03:28] <_w^x_> I have a epson 3170 scanner is the epkowa driver included in the Ubuntu distro?
[03:28] <bjames> any kdevelop users in here?!?
[03:28] <Pupeno> bjames: try #kubuntu or #kde or #kde-devel
[03:28] <x_O> No.. i drug the zip file into the window
[03:28] <RadiantFire> mmm... strang
[03:29] <RadiantFire> wait zip file?
[03:29] <bjames> Pepuno: cheers
[03:29] <tanlaan> Does anyone know of any reasons why gdm might fail to start when restarting it?*I am on an iMac G3 trying to install Ubuntu.
[03:29] <bjames> Pupeno: cheers
[03:29] <RadiantFire> x_O: can you paste the link to the themeyou are trying to install again?
[03:29] <jatt> Nimwei-: again you have plenty of alternatives for gnome configuration. There is no central repository for all configuration options. The menus, for example can be configured through menu editors. Other general options can be toggled off/on (e.g. which icons should be shown for default on your desktop) using the geconf-editor
[03:29] <seshomaru> martoss its /etc/resolv.conf
[03:29] <PurpleTen> rsk pm?
[03:29] <drbreen> bjames: gdm gives you an error message, does it ?
[03:29] <x_O> yea just a sec
[03:29] <wide-eye> PurpleTen, grab a md5sum program and check against the md5sum.txt in that file, numbers should match
[03:29] <wide-eye> PurpleTen, check the iso image i mean
[03:29] <PurpleTen> ohk
[03:30] <JohnUK89> Can someone help me getting nvidia-glx working please?
[03:30] <PurpleTen> whats a good md5sum checker?
[03:30] <martoss> seshomaru: ok, then your resolveconf isn't updating it properly
[03:30] <martoss> it should be a link in case of resolveconf
[03:30] <RadiantFire> PurpleTen: the command md5sum is available from terminal
[03:30] <x_O> once i find it
[03:30] <wide-eye> PurpleTen, for which os?
[03:30] <bjames> drbreen: I get an error saying "could not start process unable to start ioslave klauncher said: Unknown protocl 'trash'"
[03:30] <PurpleTen> xp
[03:30] <PurpleTen> window
[03:30] <martoss> seshomaru, how're you connecting ?
[03:30] <x_O> it was this one
[03:30] <x_O> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=24229
[03:30] <seshomaru> martoss - yes, that's a better way of saying it...
[03:30] <RadiantFire> PurpleTen: if you have a file the ends in .md5 you can execute md5sum -c *.md5 and it will check the sum in the file against the actual file and report on correctness
[03:30] <RadiantFire> PurpleTen: at least I think it is the -c flag
[03:31] <RadiantFire> its been a while since I have bothered with md5 sums
[03:31] <wide-eye> PurpleTen, dunno, suggest google md5sum gnu win32
[03:31] <seshomaru> martoss - i have another Fedora machine on the same subnet - i copy it's resolv.conf to Ubuntu
[03:31] <PurpleTen> ohk
[03:31] <RadiantFire> PurpleTen: fastsum works on win32
[03:31] <PurpleTen> ohk
[03:31] <RadiantFire> or you can use cygwin with md5sum
[03:31] <drbreen> bjames: wtf ? never heard of it.
[03:31] <RadiantFire> like I had said
[03:31] <RadiantFire> or maybe I left that part out
[03:31] <RadiantFire> oops
[03:31] <x_O> arrgh
[03:31] <x_O> none of these themes work
[03:32] <x_O> invalid file format
[03:32] <seshomaru> martoss ,maybe misunderstood your question , i connect thru a router ,broadband
[03:32] <seshomaru> NAT
[03:32] <martoss> seshomaru: ok, so you're getting your IP, gateway etc via dhcp?
[03:32] <bjames> drbreen: me either!!
[03:32] <seshomaru> yes
[03:32] <martoss> seshomaru: ok
[03:32] <seshomaru> everything was fine for about 6 months
[03:33] <seshomaru> the problem started 2 days ago
[03:33] <martoss> what happens if you 're dhcp'ing again?
[03:33] <martoss> dhclient eth0
[03:33] <martoss> is /etc/resolv.conf updated then?
[03:34] <Nimwei-> jatt - Sorry for the response delay. Thanks for the menu stuff. I'll look into that as well.
[03:34] <seshomaru> martoss i think it did
[03:34] <Nimwei-> I'm embarassed to say that I've been a windows kid my whole life.  It has its purpose, but I've decided to venture off into the world of freedom.  ;)
[03:35] <Nimwei-> Open source for the win.
[03:35] <Oni-Dracula> what critieria does Firestarter consider a connection "serious"
[03:35] <seshomaru> martoss , how do i configure it to do it automatically?
[03:36] <martoss> as a quick fix, you can add it to /etc/rc.local
[03:36] <PurpleTen> yep checksum is ok
[03:36] <martoss> before exit 0
[03:36] <Navux> !xgl
[03:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:36] <SystemBomber> what is a good screen recording program?
[03:37] <PurpleTen> ubuntu-6.06-server-i386.iso   < does this one boot from cd?
[03:37] <pequatre> PurpleTen, yes
[03:37] <wide-eye> PurpleTen, unless you're on an old mac
[03:37] <PurpleTen> coz i cant find anytin in the iso to suggest that it does
[03:37] <seshomaru> martoss , should it do it automatically?
[03:38] <seshomaru> martoss , i mean , shouldn't it do it automatically?
[03:38] <pequatre> PurpleTen, burn it as an "image" not as a file and it'll boot
[03:39] <SystemBomber> Can anyone suggest a good screen capturing and recording software Thanks!
[03:39] <wide-eye> PurpleTen, isolinux is used to boot cd's instead of grub/lilo
[03:39] <PurpleTen> :S
[03:40] <Oni-Dracula> and why is iana pinging me?
[03:40] <Navux> SystemBomber: I hear about xvidcap and vnc2swf
[03:40] <PurpleTen> she likes you:D
[03:40] <wide-eye> PurpleTen, there is an isolinux folder in that image you posted ;)
[03:40] <PurpleTen> ohk
[03:40] <PurpleTen> do i do anytin wit it?
[03:40] <moparfan90> hello. i have 6.06 amd64 installed... i am installing qemu and need to know the path for my kernel soures. do you know what it is?
[03:40] <martoss> seshomaru: I had similar problems, what I did was removing resolveconf and reinstalling it, but I am not sure if this works for you too.
[03:41] <SystemBomber> Navux, xvidcap only records a small square, i need to record the whole screen
[03:41] <babo> why wont' this work ??
[03:41] <babo>  mount -t iso9960 /dev/cdrom /medi
[03:41] <martoss> seshomaru: it also depends what's configuring your network, the debian scripts, network manager etc...
[03:41] <copyofjohan> can I share printers with cups under dapper drake without activating the root account?
[03:41] <wide-eye> moparfan90, if you've installed em they would be /usr/src/linux/
[03:41] <babo> s/medi/media/
[03:41] <seshomaru> martoss , why do u use the word 'install' , isn't it a file?
[03:41] <babo> mount: unknown filesystem type 'iso9960'
[03:41] <babo> mount: maybe you meant 'iso9660'?
[03:42] <moparfan90> wide-eye, o you have to install them.. whats the package name?
[03:42] <Navux> SystemBomber: I said, I only hear about theme ;-) what about vnc2swf?
[03:42] <SystemBomber> Navux, dw, ive figured out how to make it bigger lol
[03:42] <babo> anyone ???
[03:43] <lostinc> Does anyone have a suggestion for font management
, is kernel source tree the same as kernel source?
[03:43] <pequatre> babo, maybe not the right drive ?
[03:43] <sharperguy> babo, you shure you didnt mean 'iso9660'?
, thats what i need
[03:43] <pequatre> like /dev/cdrom0 or 1
[03:44] <babo> sharperguy, ??? ... that's what I said right ?
[03:44] <pequatre> lol
[03:44] <wide-eye> moparfan90, yes, sorry dont know the name of the ubuntu pakage
[03:44] <sharperguy> babo, no you put iso9960
[03:44] <babo> sharperguy, aha ... :-) ... thanks
 ok thanks anyways
[03:45] <sharperguy> bao, no probs
[03:45] <sharperguy> *babo, no probs
[03:45] <harisund> What kernel do I use for an AMD Turion64?
[03:45] <sharperguy> mie spellin iz betar dan oll ov yoorz!!
[03:45] <PurpleTen> is there a grub command to get it to boot the cd ?
[03:45] <babo> now it says 'no medium found' ... :-()
[03:45] <sharperguy> Useually means theres no cd in
[03:45] <pequatre> PurpleTen, no you must make sure your BIOS is set to boot from cd
[03:46] <erUSUL> harisund: k7 if you use 32bits and amd64 if you use 64bits
[03:46] <wide-eye> PurpleTen, yes, i have to look it up
[03:46] <harisund> erUSUL you mean the amd64 generic?
[03:46] <PurpleTen> pequatre: the bios is set to boot from cd
[03:46] <martoss> seshomaru, : nope, resolveconf is a package
[03:46] <PurpleTen> then hdd then flopy
[03:46] <pequatre> PurpleTen, maybe try the other drive ?
[03:46] <martoss> resolvconf - nameserver information handler
[03:46] <martoss> sorry resolvconf, without e
[03:46] <PurpleTen> only hav one drive :(
[03:47] <pequatre> k
[03:47] <babo> sharperguy, gosh... I'm on a roll tonight. I better stop before I hurt myself ... ;-) ... cheers
[03:47] <PurpleTen> it boots the xp cd tho
[03:47] <harisund> erUSUL what is the difference between k7 and k8?
[03:47] <seshomaru> martoss , oh , how to reinstall with apt-get? apt-get install --reinstall?
[03:47] <sharperguy> lol
[03:47] <pequatre> PurpleTen, you burnt the iso as an image ?
[03:47] <sj> hi, need to configure my LAN network, could anybody help me??
[03:47] <PurpleTen> yes
[03:47] <PurpleTen> i used the nero image buring thing
[03:47] <harisund> erUSUL actually, what's the difference between amd64, k7 and k8 kernels? How will I know which one is which?
[03:47] <PurpleTen> @ speed 16x
[03:48] <nazgul> sj: sure that is easy
[03:48] <pequatre> ok. i for one uses cd-rw's it's better if burning goes wrong.
[03:48] <sj> nazgul, i couldn't figure how to do that :(
[03:48] <wide-eye> PurpleTen, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Chain_002dloading.html#Chain_002dloading
[03:48] <wide-eye> PurpleTen, use tab to get the right (hd0) or cd0
[03:49] <nazgul> sj: there should be an utility in the menus: system -> administration->
[03:49] <martoss> seshomaru: yep
[03:49] <martoss> seshomaru: but remove --purge is also worth a try
[03:49] <PurpleTen> when i press tab it givs me a bunch of stuff
[03:49] <PurpleTen> possible commands
[03:49] <pequatre> PurpleTen, i used to have this problem with GeexBox, it's better to burn in Disk-At-Once (DAO) mode and to "close the session"
[03:50] <seshomaru> martoss , is that an aptitude command , what's the full command?
[03:50] <wide-eye> PurpleTen, rootnoverify ( ... then tab
[03:51] <Nimwei-> Gah, is there something I'm missing?  mysql -h localhost -u root [mypass] ..keep getting access denied with that and any other user.
[03:51] <PurpleTen> fd0 and hd0 :S
[03:51] <martoss> any ideas why direct rendering isn't working anymore in edgy with a radeon 7500 (open source drivers)?
[03:51] <fistmaster> i sugest u test mysql -u root -p
[03:51] <PurpleTen> is fd0 my cdrom :S
[03:51] <PurpleTen> cant be
[03:52] <wide-eye> Nimwei, lsof -i | grep mysql
[03:52] <Nimwei-> That worked, fistmaster. Thanks.
[03:52] <sharperguy> fd0 is floppy
[03:52] <wide-eye> Nimwei, see if it's running
[03:52] <PurpleTen> think the cdrom might be broken
[03:52] <neutrinomass> martoss: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support - There were some updates to xserver-xorg a few days ago, maybe that broke it - file a bug report
[03:52] <Nimwei-> It *is* running, wide-eye..phpmyadmin works hehe
[03:52] <fistmaster> np =)  a pleasure
[03:52] <sj> nazgul, system -> administration -> networking?
[03:52] <wide-eye> PurpleTen, ya cd isn't made right
[03:52] <PurpleTen> :S
[03:52] <heitzso> new laptop w x1600 fglrx broken dapper, trying edgy, also broken ? how work with edgy developers?
[03:53] <PurpleTen> i used nero image burning @ 16x speed
[03:54] <heitzso> how can I work with edgy dev to insure x1600 mobility works?
[03:54] <rsk> PurpleTen: and you are sure the cd/dvd is first prio in bios for boting?
[03:54] <PurpleTen> yes
[03:54] <nazgul> sj: exactly.
[03:54] <PurpleTen> xp boots from it
[03:54] <rsk> maybe bad ram or bad drive/s
[03:54] <PurpleTen> bad ram :S
[03:54] <rsk> run smartmontools and memtest86+
[03:54] <fistmaster> =)
[03:55] <Navux> I try install XGL but after I run compiz *** it said: compiz.real: No Composite extention, any body know how can I fix it (I read !xgl and ubuntuforums xgl tips; I use Intel i810)
[03:55] <fistmaster> rsk stange idea
[03:55] <rsk> Navux: #ubuntu-xgl
[03:55] <nazgul> sj: you should get along now.
[03:56] <heitzso> is there an edgy eft focused irc?
[03:56] <sj> nazgul, ok, thanks
[03:56] <neutrinomass> heitzso: Yes, #ubuntu+1
[03:56] <rsk> heitzso: #ubuntu+1
[03:56] <heitzso> thanks!
[03:57] <whoppix> i would like to know if that tiny OSD from ubuntu (which displays for example the volume etc) is a binary or something, i would like to use it to display something, but i dont have any c/c++ skills.. does anyone know anything about that? thx for help in advance :)
[03:57] <heitzso> \exit
[03:58] <Inferus> Hi all
[03:58] <Inferus> i've downloaded vnc using apt-get
[03:58] <Inferus> and i've ran vncserver to configure it, i think
[03:58] <Inferus> however, I can't connect into it?
[03:58] <PurpleTen> ahahahah bad drive
[03:58] <PurpleTen> took the drive out from another comp
[03:58] <PurpleTen> now its working
[03:59] <PurpleTen> thanks for all the help guys :D
[03:59] <fistmaster> what r u trying Inferus ?
[04:00] <Inferus> to connect to it fistmaster
[04:00] <foomonkey> I would like to get involved in writing gnome/ubuntu code. I know C and C++ but not gnome... how do I get started? what packages do I need to install to have a development machine?
[04:00] <fistmaster> withg vnc CLIENT ?
[04:00] <Inferus> server
[04:00] <fistmaster> client ?
[04:00] <fistmaster> nmap ?
[04:01] <fistmaster> or use lsof to test if UP
[04:01] <lostinc> Does the number of fonts installed on GNOME effect its performance?
[04:01] <Inferus> my client is REALvnc
[04:01] <wide-eye> Inferus, is it running on the host? see a Xvnc whne your run ps ax?
[04:01] <Inferus> on windows pc
[04:01] <Melissa|X> I have mp3 files that come with a cue file. I want to split that mp3 based on the info in that cue file. anybody know how I can pull that off?
[04:01] <Inferus> Xvnc ?
[04:01] <wide-eye> Inferus, on the server
[04:01] <Inferus> sec
[04:01] <HMwiii> ubotu: wifi
[04:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:01] <Inferus> administrator@itadvantage:/$ sudo vncserver
[04:01] <Inferus> New 'X' desktop is itadvantage:1
[04:01] <Inferus> Starting applications specified in /etc/X11/Xsession
[04:01] <Inferus> Log file is /home/administrator/.vnc/itadvantage:1.log
[04:01] <fistmaster> Inferus on lunux box run lsof -i TCP or nmap localhost plz
[04:02] <fistmaster> is vnc server is up ?
[04:02] <JohnUK89> !info nvidia-xgl > JohnUK89
[04:02] <ubotu> Package nvidia-xgl does not exist in dapper
[04:02] <JohnUK89> damnit
[04:02] <JohnUK89> lol
[04:02] <Inferus> fistmaster dont know
[04:02] <fistmaster> dont know what ?
[04:02] <JohnUK89> !info nvidia-glx > JohnUK89
[04:02] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-3 (dapper), package size 3963 kB, installed size 12240 kB
[04:02] <fistmaster> Inferus on lunux box run lsof -i TCP or nmap localhost pl
[04:02] <fistmaster> linux
[04:03] <fistmaster> thsi 2 com will show you each port is open
[04:03] <Inferus> i've just done lsof -i TCP
[04:03] <Inferus> and nothing happenwed
[04:03] <Inferus> oh wait
[04:03] <fistmaster> =)
[04:03] <Inferus> Xrealvnc 5819          root    0u  IPv4  15621       TCP *:x11-1 (LISTEN)
[04:03] <Inferus> Xrealvnc 5819          root    3u  IPv6  15624       TCP *:5901 (LISTEN)
[04:03] <fistmaster> ok great it seem up
[04:03] <Inferus> yea
[04:04] <h3h_timo> could someone explain to me why my sound stops working after i insert a dvd or cd???
[04:04] <fistmaster> now on your client what r you trying to acces ? have you set a password in ths server ?
[04:04] <Inferus> ohhhhhhhh
[04:04] <morphix> i cant remember the package i can install, sys-v-conf or something so i can disabled some services from starting up which arent needed
[04:04] <Inferus> i know what i did wrong
[04:04] <fistmaster> because you have a problem h3h_timo Hahahaha$
[04:05] <fistmaster> LOL Inferus
[04:05] <Inferus> fistmaster: i just did
[04:05] <Inferus> connect to 90.0.4.15:1
[04:05] <paryl> hello... i'm trying to figure out how to run a python script all the time... so that when it dies for whatever reason, it's automatically restarted, etc.  i've been looking at inittab, but i honestly don't know what i'm looking at.  can anyone give me any pointers?
[04:05] <Inferus> I had to specify what screen to connect into
[04:05] <Nimwei-> Since I'm using xine and not gstreamer, if I install all of the gstreamer codecs I'm assuming they wont work, correct?
[04:05] <Inferus> doh
[04:05] <fistmaster> yep Inferus u right ! is it working now ?
[04:05] <pp> Anyone know of a web guide to compiling ubuntu kernels?  I just need to know where to get the source and if I should use the kernel-package as I would with debian.
[04:05] <h3h_timo> fistmaster, lol thanks... its been pissing me off.. ive reconfigured alsa.. did all this stuff.. and i always have problems with it.. it will shut off for stupid reasons and that is one of the many reasons
[04:05] <neutrinomass> paryl: Write a wrapper for it ...in bash, in a for loop
[04:05] <Inferus> However now i have a problem fistmaster, i have a desktop and a mousepointer, but no icons or task bars!
[04:06] <neutrinomass> !customkernel
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about customkernel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <wide-eye> Inferus, right click
[04:06] <neutrinomass> !kernel > pp
[04:06] <seshomaru> martoss , reinstalling resolvconf didn't work , but adding dhclient eth0 to .etc/rc.local did !
[04:06] <fistmaster> check server settings Inferus
[04:06] <Inferus> wide-eye: nothing
[04:06] <pp> cheers neutrinomass
[04:06] <pp> !kernel
[04:06] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:06] <Inferus> where do I do that fistmaster?
[04:06] <wide-eye> Inferus, did you set a windowmanager to start?
[04:06] <Inferus> i dont know wide-eye
[04:06] <paryl> neutrinomass: i think i understand what you mean... thanks
[04:06] <Inferus> how do i do that?
[04:06] <neutrinomass> pp: Didn't ubotu /msg you ...
[04:06] <Inferus> please
[04:07] <fistmaster> h3h_timo do your sond work well with sound player ?
[04:07] <wide-eye> Inferus, edit ~/.vnc/xstartup
[04:07] <neutrinomass> pp: Sorry, it's an honest question, not an accusation :)
[04:07] <pp> yeah its worked
[04:07] <pp> :-)
[04:07] <fistmaster> Inferus go to /etc/.... something like vnc
[04:07] <h3h_timo> no... it wil stop working altogether
[04:07] <h3h_timo> but, it always works with everything until it completely stops working
[04:07] <PurpleTen> i love this chan :D .. soo helpfull
[04:08] <wide-eye> Inferus, should be a startxfce4 or startkde in there
[04:08] <Inferus> fistmaster nope  not there :s
[04:08] <Inferus> i cant find it wide-eye
[04:08] <HMwiii> :)
[04:09] <fistmaster> h3h_timo humm seem strange reaction, have you try to set manualy you card conf driver?
[04:09] <fistmaster> or is it the original install ?
[04:09] <Inferus> wide-eye: I'm on kubuntu
[04:09] <Inferus> i have apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:09] <h3h_timo> fistmaster, id unno... ive only tried installing it from source.. and thats about all
[04:09] <fistmaster> Inferus can you check your VNC server package conf file
[04:10] <Inferus> i thought it would automatically install everything i need?
[04:10] <wide-eye> Inferus, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20550
[04:10] <Inferus> i dont know where to locate it fistmaster
[04:10] <fistmaster> in synaptic
[04:10] <Inferus> I dont know where to find it wide-eye, fistmaster
[04:10] <wide-eye> change xfce to kde :)
[04:10] <wide-eye> Inferus, put it in ~/.vnc/xstartup
[04:10] <pp> neutrinomass I like the way you can do the "!kernel > pp"
[04:10] <shinobi2> say if ubuntu 7.0 comes out, how do i upgrade the current 6.0 on my system? just apt-get the new kernel and gnome desktop?
[04:10] <sobieski> !game
[04:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about game - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <pp> just noticed it
[04:10] <sobieski> !games
[04:10] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[04:11] <PurpleTen> !porn
[04:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about porn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:11] <pp> !kernel > pp
[04:11] <tumbleweed> anyone know whats up with durville.ubuntu.com ?
[04:11] <tumbleweed> rsync rsync://durville.ubuntu.com./releases/
[04:11] <michael003> shinobi2: apt-get dist-upgrade should do it
[04:11] <tumbleweed> rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [receiver] 
[04:11] <tumbleweed> rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(434)
[04:11] <neutrinomass> !pastebin > tumbleweed
[04:11] <tumbleweed> neutrinomass: it's only a 3-liner
[04:11] <gnu2it2> how to output a text file and exclude # comments and blank lines?
[04:11] <fistmaster> kde or gnome ?
[04:11] <shinobi2> michael003, cool
[04:12] <PurpleTen> sending sigkill
[04:12] <Tailsfan> Is there a way after you install Ubuntu that you can then install Kubuntu from the CD while still having ubuntu
[04:12] <neutrinomass> pp: You can always use "ubotu, tell pp about kernel" but it requires more typing. The > redirection was a new feature added to ubotu recently :-) (but please only play with ubotu in #bots or by /msg -ing ubotu )
[04:12] <wide-eye> gnu2it2, sed -e /'#'/d , i forget blank lines,  -e /^?/d ???
[04:13] <pp> k
[04:13] <Inferus> wide-eye: just put it in now and no diff, do i need to restart x?
[04:13] <michael003> Tailsfan: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:13] <shinobi2> Tailsfan, i think you can just do apt-get kubuntu or something to get k desktop, if that's what you want.
[04:13] <Elephantium> has anyone had trouble connecting to the packages mirror while installing from the server CD?
[04:13] <wide-eye> Inferus, ya restart the server
[04:13] <michael003> Tailsfan: If you're wanting to install from the CD instead of the net, you'll have to register the Kubunt CD with apt first
[04:13] <Inferus> whats the command to restartx plz?
[04:13] <NickVolt> anyone know the format for the interfaces file to get the machine to listen on multiple ips?
[04:13] <wide-eye> Inferus, vncserver -kill :1
[04:14] <Tailsfan> But i wanted to do it without downloading it.
[04:14] <neutrinomass> paryl: Take a glance at . I don't know bash scripting but that should serve fine (provided that the program doesn't run in the background ) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20551
[04:14] <linuxgoober> how do i do a tracrt google.com in bash?
[04:14] <PurpleTen> aww shit downloaded the wrong thing :(
[04:14] <PurpleTen> i need gui
[04:14] <linuxgoober> tracert*
[04:15] <wide-eye> traceroute
[04:15] <linuxgoober> ok
[04:15] <Inferus> AUDIT: Mon Aug 14 15:15:09 2006: 6391 X: client 1 rejected from local host
[04:15] <Inferus> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[04:15] <Inferus> Xlib: No protocol specified
[04:15] <Inferus> i keep getting that in my putty now wide-eye
[04:15] <wide-eye> Inferus, are you doing startx or vncserver ?
[04:15] <Inferus> startx
[04:15] <Inferus> :s
[04:16] <wide-eye> ok try the other :)
[04:16] <wide-eye> Inferus, startx is start a regular x desktop
[04:16] <Inferus> wide-eye: still no luck, same problem
[04:17] <Inferus> a desktop but no bars / icons
[04:17] <Inferus> just a nice mouse
[04:17] <Inferus> :)
[04:17] <tyler_d> anyone help me to access my ntfs hard drive... I do not have permission to access it?
[04:17] <neutrinomass> tyler_d: To write to it, or read it ?
[04:17] <sobieski> try Knoppix
[04:17] <Inferus> tyler_d i hereby give you permission to access your hdd
[04:17] <wide-eye> Inferus, ok check the log in ~/.vnc/
[04:17] <tyler_d> read it
[04:17] <neutrinomass> tyler_d: 1. Please file this as a bug ( http://launchpad.net )
[04:17] <erUSUL> !ntfs > tyler_d
[04:18] <NickVolt> anyone know the format for the interfaces file to get the machine to listen on multiple ips?
[04:18] <neutrinomass> tyler_d: 2, What erUSUL said :-)
[04:19] <erUSUL> NickVolt: use eth0:1...n as iface names iirc
[04:19] <Inferus> wide-eye: nothing perculiar in there
[04:19] <tyler_d> neutrinomass: pardon?
[04:19] <Inferus> wide-eye: i'll go see if I can get a desktop to show up when I walk up to the machine itself, yeah?
[04:19] <wide-eye> Inferus, vnc doesn't use the desktop in linux
[04:20] <wide-eye> Inferus, starts a new one
[04:20] <Inferus> I know
[04:20] <Inferus> but i'm gonna check X is working ok
[04:20] <wide-eye> k
[04:20] <shinobi2> my video card is very slow when running glxgears, anyone know how to fix that or if that's fixable at all.
[04:20] <Inferus> and if it is, then  know vnc is misconfigured
[04:20] <neutrinomass> tyler_d: You got a link in PM by ubotu on how to fix this... please feel free to ask again if you don't get anywhere. If you are running Ubuntu 6.06, this should also be reported as a bug (so that it can be fixed in the next version and others can benefit as well )
[04:21] <moparfan90> i copied alll the files from a CD i have into a folder. how do i make it a .iso now?
[04:21] <tyler_d> neutrinomass: just followed there instructions... thank-you
[04:21] <PurpleTen> use image burning :)
[04:22] <tumbleweed> neutrinomass: probelm with durville ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20552
[04:22] <moparfan90> is that a program to make .iso's or burn image CD's?
[04:22] <NickVolt> erUSUL: so in my interfaces file just add line eth0:X static..... address....?
[04:22] <tumbleweed> neutrinomass: is there a place to file server bugs?
[04:22] <Brownster> moparfan90, use gnomebaker and make a data cd, then choose create image
[04:22] <erUSUL> NickVolt: i'm not really sure but afaik that's the way
[04:23] <PurpleTen> can you run server stuff using this "ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso" like vnc smb ftp httpd
[04:23] <erUSUL> moparfan90: makisofs ; cdrecord ; cdrao
[04:23] <moparfan90> ok
[04:23] <erUSUL> moparfan90: mkisofs sorry
[04:23] <neutrinomass> tumbleweed: Sorry, I can't help you with durville (no idea what it is). http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug is the place to file bugs
[04:24] <moparfan90> oo
[04:24] <moparfan90> ok
[04:24] <tumbleweed> neutrinomass: it's an ubuntu server (durville.ubuntu.com)
[04:24] <tumbleweed> neutrinomass: one of the releases.ubuntu.com servers
[04:25] <tumbleweed> neutrinomass: so mirroring ubuntu is difficult atm
[04:25] <MZM> any howtos for second video out configuration (laptops VGA out for CRT)?
[04:25] <neutrinomass> tumbleweed: Ahhh..... I'm not sure ... probably you should mail the webmaster for that
[04:27] <pequatre> PurpleTen, yes
[04:27] <sharperguy> now we all know what client Lorian uses
[04:27] <PurpleTen> kool, thx pequatre
[04:27] <tumbleweed> neutrinomass: webmaster@ubuntu.com ?
[04:28] <neutrinomass> tumbleweed: Heh, I can't really find the webmaster's address... you could file it at launchpad, at worst it will be rejected
[04:28] <pequatre> PurpleTen, but you'd beter get the 686 one if you have a pentium
[04:28] <pequatre> (iirc))
[04:28] <xopher> Whats the headpiece that roman emperors used called?
[04:28] <cafuego_> pentium? that's an i586.
[04:28] <PurpleTen> its not on my irc
[04:28] <cafuego_> 686 is pentium pro, pentium 2 or higher
[04:28] <xopher> Wreath?
[04:28] <PurpleTen> mines p4
[04:28] <pequatre> cafuego_, you're right
[04:29] <pequatre> p4->686 then
[04:29] <shinobi2> during boot time, there's a kubuntu screen, how can i replace that splash screen with the original ubuntu screen?
[04:29] <pp> neutrinomass do you know off hand what the latest kernel is if I use git clone rsync ubuntu-2.6 from bcollins?
[04:30] <pp> 2.6.17.X? X = ?
[04:30] <PurpleTen> pequatre: really:S
[04:30] <pequatre> well yes
[04:30] <Elephantium> laurel?
[04:30] <meathead> I have a Radeon 9000 Pro and I can't get OpenGL to work for the life of me, is http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/FrontPage what I need?
[04:30] <azureal> xopher: go with laurel wreath for now
[04:30] <Elephantium> xopher:  I think the word you're looking for was "laurel"
[04:31] <PurpleTen> hmm i dont hav it on my mirror
[04:31] <pequatre> it's optimized for pentiums and such
[04:31] <neutrinomass> pp: Gimme a moment (I'm not on dapper anymore so I don't know this offhand )
[04:32] <pequatre> PurpleTen, change your mirror then
[04:32] <pp> cheers
[04:32] <neutrinomass> pp: 2.6.15-26 ... it's a good idea not to sync
[04:32] <PurpleTen> cant :P
[04:32] <neutrinomass> pp: Since it IS a git branch and may be sort of broken
[04:32] <pp> k thanks
[04:32] <PurpleTen> can only dl stuff from my isp's mirror... my dl is limited
[04:33] <Brownster> meathead, ive got a 9600pro and use the fglrx driver, works for gaming.
[04:33] <pequatre> PurpleTen, strange i can't find it either
[04:34] <pequatre> maybe they removed it
[04:34] <PurpleTen> ohk
[04:34] <pequatre> the only thing you'll need is the kernel so you'll download it with apt-get
[04:34] <PurpleTen> ya http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu < thats my mirror
[04:34] <PurpleTen> ohk
[04:35] <PurpleTen> so i can get the 686 wit apt-get even wit the i386 desktop?
[04:35] <pequatre> PurpleTen, yes
[04:35] <F00kme> DCC SEND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[04:35] <azureal> xopher: confirmed twice already. it is a "laurel wreath"
[04:36] <jbroome> So that's what it looks like when someone does that.
[04:36] <azureal> jbroome, what did they do?
[04:36] <kyja> is split
[04:37] <jbroome> some one did the D CC exploit i think
[04:37] <scud> when I do uptime and it displays the load averages for the past 1, 5, and 15 minutes. what is that a ratio of?
[04:37] <nalioth> yep, somebody done got k-lined
[04:38] <pequatre> PurpleTen, all you'll have to do is "sudo apt-get install linux-686"
[04:38] <PurpleTen> ok, ill do that when i download the i386 :D
[04:38] <PurpleTen> n install it
[04:38] <jbroome> nalioth: wow, lots of people use crappy routers. :)
[04:39] <meathead> I have a Radeon 9000 Pro and I can't get OpenGL to work for the life of me, is http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/FrontPage what I need?
[04:39] <ulysess> Anyone know a website to configure ubuntu+gl+ati (HOWTO)?
[04:39] <azureal> jbroome, so all people who have...what...auto accept get kicked for flooding?
[04:39] <meathead> ulysess: what card model?
[04:39] <ulysess> 9600pro
[04:39] <Nimwei-> What was the name of the linux mail server client..Postfix or something isn't it?
[04:39] <kyja> I love ubuntu.. question about ati radion x600 though.... is it living up to its potential on my pavilion xd8000? becasuse some of the most simple graphics uses up all proccesses of a 3.4Ghz p4.
[04:40] <meathead> use the drivers on ati.com
[04:40] <trygg> Can i get a little quickhelp, i want to rar (or zip) everything thats in my home folder that starts with ., how can i do that easily?
[04:40] <Qualitiam> hello, I'm having some problems to connect to internet. I'm using a CA-80U ADSL USB modem. pppoeconf searches the eth0 interface but finds nothing and quits. what can I do?
[04:40] <kyja> k
[04:40] <trygg> I dont want to mess it up since im backing everything up
[04:41] <ulysess> i use it drivers, but i don't know how to configure xgl later (the widow dissappear)
[04:41] <jbroome> holy banination
[04:41] <Thunderpants> :)
[04:41] <mphatso> how can I install yahoo massanger inLunx
[04:42] <Qualitiam> hello, I'm having some problems to connect to internet. I'm using a CA-80U ADSL USB modem. pppoeconf searches the eth0 interface but finds nothing and quits. what can I do?
[04:42] <azureal> did nalioth ban fookme?
[04:42] <mphatso> how can I install yahoo massanger in Linux
[04:42] <Dasnipa`> mphatso, gimp
[04:42] <meathead> mphatso: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-81895.html
[04:42] <nalioth> azureal: i am banning folks, yes.
[04:42] <meathead> google
[04:42] <TheGateKeeper> mphatso: are you using gnome?
[04:42] <mphatso> hi
[04:42] <kyja> open a pkg manager and search for yahoo or something.
[04:42] <Thunderpants> mphatso, use gaim
[04:42] <kyja> can do that
[04:42] <EpP> mphatso, gaim
[04:42] <PurpleTen> ya
[04:42] <EpP> Dasnipa`, gaim?
[04:42] <Dasnipa`> yeah... dawgonnit
[04:43] <kyja> hmmm
[04:43] <PurpleTen> + yahoo n msn are the same thing now
[04:43] <mphatso> thanks
[04:43] <Qualitiam> Gliptic :P
[04:43] <Qualitiam> hello, I'm having some problems to connect to internet. I'm using a CA-80U ADSL USB modem. pppoeconf searches the eth0 interface but finds nothing and quits. what can I do?
[04:43] <Dasnipa`> you know... gimp gaim... same thing... silly program names
[04:43] <nalioth> azureal: notice the patterns
[04:43] <azureal> Dasnipa`, !
[04:43] <erUSUL> !adsl > Qualitiam
[04:44] <Qualitiam> erUSULwhat?
[04:44] <pp> anyone know what I have to add to my /etc/apt/sources.list to get "apt-get install xconfig" to work?
[04:44] <Qualitiam> err
[04:44] <PurpleTen> 58mins till i get the iso :D
[04:44] <azureal> nalioth, people from ubuntu-ops?
[04:44] <Qualitiam> erUSUL, I don't get what you mean
[04:44] <erUSUL> Qualitiam: read the pm from ubotu
[04:44] <abarbaccia> hello all, do the fglrx drivers work with ubuntu dapper?
[04:44] <Qualitiam> yes
[04:44] <pp> or is there a better config program for ubuntu
[04:44] <erUSUL> !adsl
[04:44] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[04:44] <nalioth> azureal: all the victims of the latest exploit are being diverted into #ubuntu-ops for education
[04:44] <Qualitiam> erUSUL, I already checked that
[04:44] <erUSUL> !ati > abarbaccia
[04:44] <jbroome> haha nice
[04:45] <erUSUL> Qualitiam: is an usb modem?
[04:45] <Qualitiam> erUSUL, yes
[04:45] <jbroome> it's like a n00b concentration camp. :P
[04:45] <erUSUL> Qualitiam: eagle or speedtouch type?
[04:45] <nalioth> azureal: we have had to resort to this, because it's QUITE disruptive when 100s of users drop upon exploit
[04:45] <Qualitiam> erUSUL, to be honest I wouldn't know
[04:45] <Qualitiam> I'll google these terms
[04:46] <Qualitiam> :P
[04:46] <alk_> .o/
[04:46] <kyja> so thats where we dont go if we dont want to have a +b somewhere? =] 
[04:46] <azureal> nalioth, ah, i've never seen this exploit before...by default i guess it was stopped... but explain this: " F00kme has quit (K-lined)"
[04:46] <erUSUL> Qualitiam: do you speak spanish?
[04:47] <nalioth> azureal: it was not stopped, the instigator was banned from the network (that is what k-lined means)
[04:47] <erUSUL> Qualitiam: all the info i found in internet is in spanish
[04:47] <alex116> ubuntu just crashed. where can I find the log if there is one?
[04:47] <Thunderpants> alex116, /var/log/messages?
[04:48] <erUSUL> alex116: there are a few all in /var/log/
[04:48] <Qualitiam> erUSUL, yes, I do speak spanish
[04:48] <Qualitiam> link me to these sites
[04:48] <azureal> nalioth: by stopped I meant that I personally was not exploited
[04:48] <erUSUL> Qualitiam: http://www.google.es/search?q=CA-80U+ADSL+USB&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:es-ES:unofficial
[04:48] <pp> do ubuntu people use menuconfig?
[04:48] <nalioth> !tell azureal about exploit
[04:48] <erUSUL> pp: yes
[04:49] <pp> erUSUL do you know what I have to add to my /etc/apt/sources.list to get "apt-get install xconfig" to work?
[04:50] <azureal> nalioth, ok, thx; interesting
[04:50] <TheGateKeeper> pp: need to enable universe repo
[04:50] <erUSUL> pp: xconfig works like menuconfig it comes with linux sources you can not install it from repos. just use make xconfig (you need qt-devel iirc)
[04:50] <phanerothyme11> hi
[04:50] <azureal> pp: just do it through a GUI, namely through "sudo synaptic"
[04:50] <neutrinomass> pp: gksudo synaptic
[04:50] <neutrinomass> azureal: 'sudo' should not be used for graphical applications
[04:51] <azureal> ah, why is that? no problems here =)
[04:51] <neutrinomass> see !root's link for reference
[04:51] <phanerothyme11> got a kernel related query here, I've googled extensively but my knowledge isn't up to enough to make sense of the results. Can someone help?
[04:51] <RaeDr> How do I delete Rhythmbox's database or get it to rescan my directory?
[04:51] <erUSUL> !ask
[04:51] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:51] <phanerothyme11> OK, I need some help installing the drivers for my nForce2 motherboard on ubuntu dapper drake. I've downloaded the drivers from nVidia, and now I'm told it needs to recompile the kernel, yet seems unable to do so. Would someone be able to tell me how to download and place the kernel source (and where from, I've looked but can't find 2.6.15-26-386 because I'm not sure what I am looking for) so that the nvidia driver in
[04:52] <nalioth> !tell azureal about gksudo
[04:52] <nalioth> !tell azureal about kdesu
[04:52] <azureal> ah! the bot is pwning me!
[04:52] <nalioth> !tell azureal about worksforme
[04:52] <erUSUL> RaeDr: rm ~/.gnome2/rhythmbox/rhythmdb.xml
[04:52] <RaeDr> Ta
[04:52] <nalioth> azureal: just 'cuz it works for you, doesn't mean it's safe
[04:53] <azureal> still seems vague
[04:53] <HMwiii> how do i install gcc and  all the other compilers at once?
[04:53] <azureal> gksudo --> "more appropriately"
[04:53] <TheGateKeeper> !nvidia > phanerothyme11:
[04:53] <erUSUL> phanerothyme11: sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15
[04:53] <neutrinomass> Hwyvar: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:53] <HMwiii> apt-get install gcccombothing
[04:53] <phanerothyme11> copied, many thanks indeed
[04:53] <nalioth> azureal: if you open gui apps using sudo, your permissions can be changed to root.  You will lose the use of your box if this happens
[04:53] <HMwiii> build0essential
[04:53] <HMwiii> chears
[04:53] <morphix> How do i make startx execute upon logining into shell from a certain user, i tried adding to ~/.bash_profile but that still doesnt work :(
[04:53] <TheGateKeeper> !nividia > phanerothyme11:
[04:53] <nalioth> azureal: using gksudo and/or kdesu to open gui apps obliviates that problem
[04:54] <RaeDr> Is there anything better than Rhythmbox?
[04:54] <neutrinomass> morphix: Why not use gdm then ?
[04:54] <azureal> i think i see the problem -- "otherwise new login attempts may fail."
[04:54] <PurpleTen> !vnc
[04:54] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[04:54] <azureal> i need to test this now
[04:54] <TheGateKeeper> phanerothyme11: have you looked at the nividia ubotu info?
[04:54] <morphix> neutrinomass: because i am not after that, i dont even need a window manager opened, just for X to start
[04:54] <neutrinomass> morphix: Ah...
[04:55] <phanerothyme11> I've followed the install procedire TheGateKeeper, but it bummed out on me cos I had no kernel source
[04:55] <erUSUL> TheGateKeeper: he's trying to install mobo drivers no vga drivers
[04:56] <phanerothyme11> well I need the whole thing, ultimately I just want to get the monitor working in its natural resolution of 1280x1024
[04:56] <alex116> my computer froze for the second time and I can't find any logs that tell me anything
[04:56] <TheGateKeeper> erUSUL: ok, just woundered if he was trying to do things the hard way when there there was an easier method
[04:56] <RaeDr> Why can I only set Rhythmbox to watch one directory?
[04:57] <alex116> RaeDr: because thats how it was made?
[04:57] <Luke> I have no reboot option on my exit menu
[04:57] <HMwiii> hmm no back and forward on my 5 button mouse
[04:57] <Luke> anyone know how to fix this?
[04:57] <HMwiii> !mouse
[04:57] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[04:57] <TheGateKeeper> phanerothyme11: limit of my knowledge at the moment is there are howto's on compiling kernels in the ubuntu forums
[04:57] <azureal> since i don't need to worry about multiple logins to my system (although the logins seem to work fine), i can afford to use sudo over gksudo
[04:57] <HMwiii> yay :)
[04:57] <mcphail> Luke: i take it you are using xgl/compiz?
[04:57] <morphix> RaeDr: good thing to do with that, is make a central dir for music, and just symlink all ur other music folders inside that dir :)
[04:58] <jmst> hi. what must i change so that "ping localhost" works? i have a mostly default kubuntu installation.
[04:59] <Luke> mcphail: yea
[04:59] <Luke> mcphail: this is a compiz problem?
[04:59] <mcphail> Luke: that's your problem then
[04:59] <Luke> mcphail: what'd you mean?
[04:59] <NickVolt> Does anyone know how the map script works for the interface file? I am trying to alias multiple ips for one interface and am having some trouble..
[04:59] <Luke> mcphail: are you saying its a result of compiz?
[04:59] <erUSUL> !kernel > phanerothyme11
[05:01] <mcphail> Luke: yes. Go back to plain old metacity and the menu option will be there :(
[05:01] <mcphail> Luke: (but you can always reboot from the gdm screen)
[05:02] <Luke> mcphail: well thats fine by me. I just didnt know why it was happening
[05:02] <Luke> mcphail: thanks
[05:02] <phanerothyme11> !kernel ...?
[05:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel ...? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <erUSUL> !kernel
[05:02] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:02] <mcphail> Luke: it annoys me as well, if that's any consolation :)
[05:03] <adam_12> i have dual booted my ubuntu with xp but 4 some reason i cant access my ntfs partion, can n e one help me
[05:03] <Luke> mcphail: is it just with xgl? i've got an aiglx running too and it doesnt seem to have the problem?
[05:03] <erUSUL> !ntfs > adam_12
[05:03] <mcphail> Luke: i haven't tried aiglx. I had presumed it would be compiz at fault.
[05:04] <Inferus> Hi all, when I log onto my server x-server runs fine and KDE desktop, however when I connect through VNC, i cannot get a GUI to work. All i get is a blue background and a mousepointer, no actual gui's
[05:04] <wes> my USB drives are mounted readonly
[05:05] <jmst> does anybody know why i get no response from "ping localhost"?
[05:05] <ardchoille> neenaoffline: That would be good, IMHO
[05:05] <iter> jmst: firewall
[05:05] <iter> nic not up
[05:05] <jmst> ifconfig doesn't list lo
[05:05] <harisund> jmst probably because your network (TCP/IP stack) is not setup properly, or firewall, or your computer doesn't know what machine is localhost
[05:05] <neenaoffline> ardchoille: yeah
[05:05] <iter> ouch
[05:06] <harisund> jmst what happens when you execute 'sudo invoke-c.d networking restart' ?
[05:06] <jmst> will i drop offline?
[05:06] <iter> or just ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 up
[05:06] <erUSUL> jmst: check /etc/network/interfaces for a line like auto lo\n auto lo
[05:06] <erUSUL> iface lo inet loopback
[05:07] <jmst> "auto lo" is the first uncommented line in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:07] <harisund> erUSUL I have been meaning to ask you this, ever since you helped me out in the morning. What's the difference between amd64-server, amd64-k7 and amd64-k8? Which one do I install for Turion64?
[05:07] <kyja> well here goes nothing
[05:07] <phanerothyme11> thanks for you help!
[05:08] <jmst> a-ha! i typed your second line, iter, and it's working now
[05:08] <mcquaid> hello, regarding the plf repos, all the files seem to list in synaptic that they offer except the w32codec pack
[05:08] <jmst> why wasn't that enabled by default and how do i make sure it is from now on?
[05:09] <erUSUL> harisund: amd64-server is a kernel configured for server tasks probabli with preemt disabled. i do not know what is the diff between the others though
[05:09] <mumbles> question - if i have set up ubuntu with my kvm then moved it to my brothers room - why the hell isent the mouse working ?
[05:09] <kyja> heh, wont launch
[05:09] <iter> it should be if it's in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:09] <mcquaid> I can see the file is on their site but it's not listed in synaptic
[05:09] <harisund> erUSUL hmm ok ... I was just wondering which one to install on Turion64 or Athlon64. .
[05:09] <erUSUL> mcquaid: w32codecs are in seveas repos
[05:09] <mcquaid> which repos is that?
[05:10] <Seveas> !seveas > mcquaid
[05:10] <erUSUL> harisund: amd64-k7 is the safest choice
[05:10] <mcquaid> and the repos i'm referring to is I see it right here: http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/w32codecs/
[05:10] <jmst> yes, it should, but it's not.
[05:10] <harisund> erUSUL ok .. thanks
[05:10] <mumbles> !interfaces
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about interfaces - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <mumbles> !mice
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <kyja> xfree86 or x.org ?? because I dont think ati-driver-installer-8.27.10-x86.run is any good for ubuntu 6.06
[05:11] <morphix> kyja: u need the fglrx drivers
[05:11] <mumbles> :(
[05:11] <harisund> kyja did you look at the wiki page titled 'binary drivers how to / ati' ? There are instructions on how to convert it into .deb files, or use .deb files that others have created
[05:12] <kyja> ah no I was not at wiki
[05:12] <kyja> I will try
[05:12] <harisund> kyja just go to the wiki.ubuntu.com page .. search for Binary Drivers
[05:12] <kyja> ok thx =] 
[05:12] <harisund> !ati > kyja
[05:13] <wes> !ati > wes
[05:13] <harisund> wes you can message ubotu .. you could do /msg ubotu ati .. of course !ati > wes would work too :0
[05:14] <wes> you can't msg ubotu ati > kyja?
[05:14] <coopster> can anyone think of a rdesktop-like RDP client that supports sharing local files with the remote computer?  I know ms's rdesktop client is capable of setting up shares on the remote computer, is there a linux equivalent to this that anyone can think of?
[05:14] <shaantanu> !KDE
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about KDE - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <shaantanu> !kde
[05:14] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[05:15] <harisund> wes when you msg ubotu, ubotu replies only to you. When you do !something, ubotu outputs the message on the chanel. When you do !topic > nick, ubotu redirects the message to nick
[05:15] <mcquaid> Thx for the repo, good stuff in there, still it's strange thats the one file I can't get from slf
[05:16] <harisund> coopster nx is supposed to work with samba, but I am not really sure. Otherwise, yeah, even I am looking for an option that can do that :D
[05:17] <stonarmusic> what happened to the small panel icon for nautilus?
[05:18] <Luke> I've got a belkin wifi card (pci) and i've followed this guide to use it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500 but it freezes my computer and doesnt allow it to start up if i enable the card. Any ideas?
[05:19] <stonarmusic> there used to be a 'file browser' in the add to panel applet
[05:19] <PurpleTen> 22mins till i get my iso :D
[05:20] <Luke> stonarmusic: you can add it from the application launcher menu
[05:20] <Luke> stonarmusic: just drag and drop it from Applications/File Browser
[05:22] <stonarmusic> Luke - I don't see there, I'm going to try to add it.
[05:22] <aliasfred> q. does canonical run its own bittorrent seeder for ubuntu cd ?
[05:22] <johnm1019> does anyone know where the tnsnames.ora file appears when it comes to oracle XE install on ubuntu
[05:24] <Luke> johnm1019: you can view all the installed files with synaptic
[05:24] <Luke> I've got a belkin wifi card (pci) and i've followed this guide to use it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500 but it freezes my computer and doesnt allow it to start up if i enable the card. Any ideas?
[05:24] <Howitzer> hi, i'm having a problem with my fonts: I went onto another account and set up some things, then i used synaptic to uninstall a load of KDE apps i don't use (including kde-base and so on), now, when i log in to my main account (which i didn't touch in the meanwhile), all the fonts look crappy and non-anti-aliased (or hinted or whatever you call it), i'm using the EXACT same font-settings as on my other account that does not have this.
[05:24] <mcphail> aliasfred: they do, iirc
[05:24] <stonarmusic> hmm, nope couldn't add it either.
[05:24] <aliasfred> mcphail: do you happen to know their ip ? :)
[05:24] <DanaG> There is a "apply KDE fonts to GTK" option somewhere.
[05:25] <Evergete> how to mount a partition as user and avoid the message Can't get root permissions?
[05:25] <Luke> stonarmusic: use your alacarte menu editor to add it to Applications/Accessories
[05:25] <phanerothyme11> is there an easy way to find out your kernel output path?
[05:25] <mcphail> aliasfred: nope.
[05:25] <Luke> stonarmusic: then drag it from the Applications menu to your tool bar
[05:25] <aliasfred> mcphail: ok. i do agree this is a weird question.
[05:26] <orbin> Evergete: mount it w/ the userid=<username/userid> option iirc
[05:26] <Howitzer> DanaG, could that be my problem?
[05:26] <mcphail> aliasfred: isn't there some way to find out from the torrent file?
[05:26] <DanaG> 'perhaps.
[05:26] <Howitzer> that i removed those KDE fonts and now i'm stuck with the ugly things?
[05:26] <DanaG> Well, you just have to find out how the KDE fonts are being applied, and remove that.
[05:27] <aliasfred> mcphail: nope, i can have all the peers currently sharing the ubuntu cds but not the one from canonical
[05:27] <Evergete> !iirc
[05:27] <ubotu> IIRC means "if I remember correctly"
[05:27] <aliasfred> mcphail: thanks for the help, i will use an alternative tech :)
[05:27] <mcphail> :)
[05:27] <Howitzer> or International Internet Relay Chat
[05:28] <stonarmusic> i had to add a custom application launcher for nautilus, and use a weird gnome folder as the icon
[05:28] <existance> Could someone help me get my microphone working?
[05:28] <bellyflopper> !easysource
[05:28] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:28] <sharperguy> Incandecent Iratic Inconpsicuous Intelegent Internation Internet Relay Chat
[05:29] <existance> Could someone help me get my microphone working?
[05:29] <morphix> existance: wait more than a minute and someone would hlep
[05:29] <Howitzer> sure
[05:29] <morphix> help*] 
[05:29] <Howitzer> i'd like to
[05:29] <Howitzer> what is the problem? :)
[05:30] <Elko> existance: try fiddling with alsamixer
[05:30] <existance> Howitzer, to whom are you talking? :D
[05:30] <existance> Elko, I did :/
[05:30] <johnm1019> is there a way to start the finder gui tool as sudo?
[05:30] <Howitzer> mr Existance
[05:31] <existance> Howitzer, well, the gnome sound recorder doesn't work and my fiddling in alsamixer hasn't changed that.  So I'm out of ideas.
[05:31] <Luke> I've got a Belkin F5D7000 wifi card (pci) and i've followed this guide to use it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500 but it freezes my computer and doesnt allow it to start up if i enable the card. Any ideas?
[05:31] <Howitzer> hmm
[05:32] <existance> Howitzer, it's a part of a headset that is plugged into the sound card of my comp.
[05:32] <Howitzer> crap
[05:32] <Howitzer> have no idea what to do either -_-
[05:32] <sharperguy> ok...
[05:32] <Howitzer> i just plugged my in, went to some dialog and it worked
[05:33] <existance> Howitzer, :()
[05:33] <Howitzer> i'm not really helpful am i :o
[05:34] <sharperguy> The souncard will be the problem, since the mike is just audio in and uses no drivers
[05:34] <morphix> in volume control and choose ur sound card in the OSS section
[05:34] <morphix> and check mic is unmuted
[05:34] <stonarmusic> can someone help me with my audio cds? sound juicer error: "Reason: could not get/settings from/on resource" dvds and dvdrs work fine with this drive
[05:34] <morphix> existance^^
[05:34] <ranpha> i screwed up my xorg...i want tp reconfigure it but i can't seem to get to prompt. what was the code i need to put in to get prompt?
[05:35] <ardchoille> !xconfig
[05:35] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:35] <ardchoille> ranpha: ^^
[05:36] <existance> morphix, what is the OSS section?  I opened volume control from the gnome sound recorder and all I see is Playback and Capture
[05:36] <existance> morphix, oh
[05:36] <ranpha> can't open a console...i'm at the live cd now and i want to boot into prompt
[05:36] <stonarmusic>  tail | dmesg returns a bunch of lines of this: cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize! 		 	 		 		 		 		 		 	 		 			 			 			 			 				
[05:36] <mcphail> ranpha: ctrl-alt-F3
[05:36] <existance> morphix, holy shit.  I have about 40 options in the Record from input: section now
[05:37] <stonarmusic> here's what totem:  'error accessing 'cdda:///dev/hdc': Invalid URI'
[05:37] <whatsnfs> Hi, I just need some help to compile a module... never done this before, but I can use the commandline and stuff..
[05:37] <erf`> Hey, how do I remove the "vino-server" package without it wanting to remove the "ubuntu-deskop" package?
[05:37] <Yurtle> anyone in here good with hardware raid ? raid 5 ?
[05:38] <whatsnfs> it's the pymssql module for python...
[05:38] <ranpha> no.....can't boot into linux because the drivers of my card won't work so no crtl-alt...just need to code to boot from the cd into my prompt with a GUI
[05:38] <existance> morphix, alright.. i restarted gnome sound recorder and microphone is unmuted and at max on the OSS device
[05:38] <existance> morphix, still doesn't work when I try recording though
[05:39] <morphix> have u tried unmuting line-in?
[05:39] <existance> morphix, is there another sound recorder that would be better?
[05:39] <existance> morphix let me check
[05:39] <Yurtle> i had a raid 5 array with 4 drives and one crashed, i went into the controller bios screen and hit reconstruct instead of rebuild and now its doing something .. converting raid 5 to raid 0 im scared.
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> this is when it pays to have backups.
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:40] <Yurtle> i have backups but .im just bummed out about it.
[05:40] <ranpha> how can i boot into my prompt without going into a GUI
[05:40] <existance> morphix, wtf... whenever i modify something in volume control, gnome sound recorder adds another 6 entries in my recorder options..
[05:40] <Yurtle> dr_willis you think its going to boot back up when its done doing whatever the hell its doing ?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> ranpha,  could use that recover/rescue mode in the grub menu.
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> Yurtle,  your guess is as good as mine. :P
[05:41] <Yurtle> haha
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> ranpha,  ya want to do this once? or from now on?
[05:41] <Yurtle> it seems to be doing whatever its doing for a reason but. im just nervous as hell.
[05:41] <erf`> So anyone?
[05:41] <ranpha> no once Dr_willis
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> ranpha,  or ya can try booting into runlevel 3, 2 is the default with GUI.
[05:42] <Nimwei-> Ok, so I've got postfix installed.  How do I go about setting up user accounts/mail addresses for my localhost domain just as a test? From what I'm reading, it looks like postfix only sends mail..it doens't really manage accounts/etc.
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> or ya can just boot to the gui. and kill the gdm service.
[05:42] <existance> does anyone know of a good sound recorder package?
[05:43] <ranpha> just want to start dphk-reconfigure .... why can't i start into a prompt
[05:43] <michael003> existance: audacity
[05:43] <mumbles> how do i do remote login ?
[05:43] <existance> michael003, gratzi
[05:43] <Nimwei-> mumbles - apt-get install vncserver
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> ranpha,  theres several ways to get to the prompt. :P heck ya could just alt-ctrl-f1  if ya just need the shell,  /etc/init.d/gdm stop (and X will be dead)
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> mumbles,  or use ssh. :P
[05:44] <erf`> Is there anyway to stop the default vnc server on boot in dapper?
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> erf`,  ive never noticed a default vnc service.
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> erf`,  in fact i manually set up a default vnc server, so  i could vnc in and get the GDM login.
[05:45] <morphix> How do i make startx execute upon logining into shell from a certain user, i tried adding to ~/.bash_profile but that still doesnt work :(
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> morphix,  could try the .bashrc
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> morphix,  but when ever that user tryes to open a new shell it wlll try to run it again. :)
[05:46] <erf`> Dr_Willis,  I've setup my own vnc server but I want it to use the default port (5900), but the default vnc server (vino-server) is still using it
[05:46] <morphix> :/
[05:46] <Nimwei-> erf` - dkpg -r vino-server
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> vino-server is part of gnome as far as i know. and is only ran when the user starts it up.
[05:46] <Nimwei-> erf` - Then you should be able to install vnc and it'll be the "default"
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> actually vini-server is shareing desktop :0 which is the current displayed desktop. normal vnc servers start at 5901 and so on.
[05:47] <sirjohn> ok - how do i remotley login to a ubuntu desktop without already been logged in ?
[05:47] <sirjohn> real vnc ?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> sirjohn,  i ssh in, start vncserver, and then connect with a vncclient
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> i normally use vnc4server  or tightvncserver
[05:48] <mcphail> sirjohn: freenx
[05:48] <MFen> there appears to be a problem with breezy-security/multiverse
[05:49] <MFen> is this a known issue?
[05:49] <MFen> it's a bzip decompression error
[05:49] <ubuntu> Does anyone have any idea why gdm might fail to start on a restart?
[05:49] <sirjohn> Dr_Willis,  thanks. i realy dont what to have to go up to my bros room eveytime theres a problem with ubuntu
[05:49] <anabain> can anybody help me with the LAN card? system recongizes it (lspci) but cannot bring it up. it's a realtek 8139
[05:49] <pp> anyone here have an opinion on the best way to stop and resume a long kernel compilation?
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> sirjohn,  theres 2 ways of vnc ussage.. seeing/shareing the Current desktop (what you see sitting at the remote box) and then you got the 'hidden' desktops that you can start several of.
[05:50] <morphix> anabain: gigabit?
[05:50] <adam_12> i have set up samba 2 share one of my folders in but when i am on my windows xp computer i cant get access to the folder because it is asking 4 a user name and password and i dont know what they are
[05:50] <anabain> realtek
[05:50] <soundray> pp: what do you want to do while the compilation is stopped?
[05:50] <pp> restart the machine
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> adam_12,  you need to set the users samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username' (where username is the name of one of your linux users)
[05:51] <morphix> ana
[05:51] <pp> can it be done with screen?
[05:51] <Howitzer> Yeeeha, i fixed the fonts stuff by removing ~/.fonts.conf
[05:51] <morphix> anabain: i know its a realtek brand, but is the speed of the card gigabit?
[05:51] <existance> How can I get my mic to play directly into my speakers?
[05:51] <sirjohn> Dr_Willis,  im probably going to be doing the seeing/shareing one to show him around ubuntu
[05:51] <Howitzer> and now all my fonts are anti-aliased as hell and they're making me dizzy :/
[05:51] <soundray> pp: I'm afraid there's no way to suspend the compilation so that it will survive a reboot.
[05:51] <pp> cheers mate
[05:51] <sirjohn> right thats ssh installed and real vncserver
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> sirjohn,  i found doing it 'that' way seems to be much slower  :P but its good for tutorials.
[05:52] <morphix> anabain: its just that, i am sure thats the same NIC i have in my server, i'll checkk
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> !info vnc4server
[05:52] <ubotu> vnc4server: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.1+xorg1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 986 kB, installed size 2332 kB
[05:52] <anabain> morphix, I'm not sure
[05:52] <pp> it is possible in principle though?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> sirjohn,  i tend to use vnc4server
[05:52] <sirjohn> i dont think he will have that much of a problem becouse he seamed to be able to use it when i showed him the last time
[05:53] <morphix> anabain: damn, my server NIC is 8169, close but not the same as yours, what errors do u get when u try to bring the NIC up?
[05:53] <sirjohn> right now to go downsatres and see if i can view it
[05:54] <sirjohn> ipconfig
[05:54] <Ademan> i'm about to go, but i had a question about shared objects.... how come so many shared objects have a number after them? like libGL.so.5 or something
[05:54] <sirjohn> oh crap wrong window :( thougt i had changed out of this one
[05:54] <soundray> pp: you can Ctrl-Z it, and then pick up with fg, but only if the parent shell still lives.
[05:54] <sirjohn> and wrong command anyway
[05:54] <soundray> pp: it should be possible to suspend, though, if you have activated that
[05:55] <mike-e> is there a well documented list of linux commands ?
[05:55] <soundray> !tell mike-e about cli
[05:55] <pp> thanks soundray
[05:55] <mumbles> right im downstar4es :p
[05:55] <ropiku> hey, I have a question. I forgot to write the grub. Now, i'm on Fedora. What do I have to write in grub.conf ?
[05:55] <HMwiii> how do i find out whats linking to a file
[05:55] <morphix> anabain: still here??
[05:55] <HMwiii> symolic link i mean
[05:56] <Ademan> ropiku: what do you have to write for it to do what?
[05:56] <soundray> ropiku: follow the procedure recommended to recover after windows installation. See the message from ubotu
[05:56] <matid> Do you guys know if it's possible to attach a bash session running in the background?
[05:56] <soundray> !tell ropiku about grub
[05:56] <Ademan> are you dual-booting or what?
[05:56] <ropiku> thanks to all
[05:57] <ropiku> I want triple bootign
[05:57] <HMwiii> !symbolic link
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about symbolic link - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <matid> I closed a tab in gnome-terminal, but I can see that bash executing the command that I issued is still running (ps aux | grep bash). Is it possible to attach it again?
[05:57] <morphix> ropiku: i currently triple boot, what exactly do u need to know??
[05:57] <andreas__> hallo leute
[05:57] <t> I'm having trouble taking down X... I want to go to multiuser mode but without gnome
[05:57] <ropiku> morphix, I'm now on FC5 and vi grub.conf
[05:57] <t> I've tried init 2 but X is still up, and init 1 is single user mode
[05:57] <soundray> ropiku: if the boot menu doesn't contain all the options, you will have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst in ubuntu.
[05:57] <geokok> I want to have the debian menu. I installed "menu" from synaptic, restarted, but I cant tick the alacarte option...
[05:57] <MZM> matid: if your not using screen, then imho no.
[05:58] <Ademan> couldnt you just ctrl+alt+F(number) into a virtual console?
[05:58] <ropiku> morphix, I can't get to ubuntu because it's not on grub list
[05:58] <soundray> andreas__: falscher Kanal -- #ubuntu-de
[05:58] <mumbles> argh
[05:58] <mumbles> damm thing dosent work
[05:58] <matid> MZM: That's a pity
[05:58] <ropiku> morphix, Ubuntu it's installed in lvm /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol02 and I have a /boot partition
[05:58] <existance> how do I tell what drivers a device is using?
[05:58] <MZM> matid: IMHO closing tab should kill process. Q is - why it is still running?
[05:59] <morphix> ropiku: hm.. i dunno how lvm's are setup so i am no help
[05:59] <matid> MZM: Not really sure. I was running pbuilder with sudo and I can see that it's still running, even though the tab was closed
[05:59] <ropiku> anybody knows the manual grub setting for Ubuntu on a LVM ?
[05:59] <t> any ideas on how to take down X/gnome? and go multiuser mode?
[06:00] <ropiku> because I don't want to lose FC5 or Windows from grub settings
[06:00] <soundray> ropiku: if your /boot partition is outside the LVM, the rescue instructions should still apply. Did you get the pm from ubotu?
[06:00] <mike-e> if someone's able to play mp3's and has w32codecs installed, why wouldn't they be able to hear the audio on a google video movie?
[06:00] <morphix> ropiku: you should still be able to reconfigure grub and it should find all other OS's automatically (atleast mine does)
[06:00] <ropiku> soundray: yes, I'm reading
[06:00] <soundray> mike-e: that's a firefox problem most likely
[06:00] <teicah> t: disable gdm at bootup
[06:00] <Nimwei-> What's a free C compiler I can install?
[06:01] <matid> MZM: Oh, I was wrong. It's not running, it's sleeping.
[06:01] <void^> !gcc
[06:01] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:01] <t> how would i do that?
[06:01] <mike-e> it plays fine on my firefox
[06:02] <teicah> t: followed this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[06:02] <Nimwei-> void^: thanks.
[06:02] <virginijus> haribol
[06:02] <hume> i'm trying to run memtest, and it says "trying mlock" and then "killed". is there something wrong? leaves no other output
[06:03] <soundray> mike-e: how are you playing the video when it doesn't work?
[06:03] <geokok> anyone on how to show up debian menu?
[06:04] <Ragzouken> I tried following this Tutorial on teh Ubuntu wiki for Dual Screen, but it isn't working, can anyone see anything wrong with my xorg thingy? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20562
[06:04] <MZM> anyaone running on i855 based laptop?
[06:05] <mike-e> sound: the video's fine, the audio doesn't play
[06:05] <soundray> geokok: have you done a 'sudo apt-get install menu' already?
[06:05] <ikonia> is there an X configuration tool for ubuntu that will allow a dual headed configuration to be created
[06:05] <geokok> yes
[06:05] <teicah> it turns out to be the very first link for "disable gdm ubuntu bootup" in the _google_ search
[06:05] <geokok> and restartedx, restarted the machine
[06:05] <geokok> nothing
[06:05] <soundray> mike-e: you said "it plays fine in my firefox". So what is the problem?
[06:06] <anabain> morphix, excuse me, I was in a hurry... now eth1 works, and I can ping from PC2(eth1) to PC1(eth0), but now I can't connect to internet from PC2 to PC1(adsl-usb modem, ppp0 interface)
[06:06] <soundray> geokok: 'sudo update-menus'?
[06:07] <anabain> morphix, btw, I'm using eth1 in PC2 as eth0 doesn't work at all (brand new and crappy gforce6150/430)
[06:07] <UncleD> What is the recommended way of backing up my ubuntu system? Is there software that works great for backups?
[06:07] <geokok> no, i just did that. should i restart my laptop?
[06:07] <ikonia> amadna
[06:07] <ikonia> amanda
[06:08] <MZM> UncleD: SBackup
[06:08] <anabain> morphix, PC2 eth0 is gigabit, why did you ask me this before?
[06:08] <UncleD> amanda or sbackup?
[06:08] <UncleD> both are good?
[06:08] <mumbles> ok who else usses vnc viefwer under windows?
[06:08] <mike-e> sound: it plays fine on another computer
[06:08] <CraZy675> we are installing kubuntu here (at work) but we are having trouble with out dual monitors, what steps should I take to trouble shoot this?
[06:08] <mike-e> crazy: make sure xserver-xorg is properly configured?
[06:09] <MZM> UncleD: S stands for Simple ;)
[06:09] <mumbles> im tring to connect to a machene with it running and as far as i know working - yet it says connection refesed
[06:09] <jbirdAngel_> Hello, linux can open up RTF files just fine right?
[06:09] <soundray> mike-e: have a look at http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/
[06:10] <geokok> ok that did it!! thanks man
[06:11] <geokok> other question. Firefox plays apple trailers but not firefox flicks (quicktime)
[06:11] <geokok> i have totem-xine ff plugin
[06:11] <UncleD> MZM: If I know I just want a complete backup of my entire hd, you recommend anything?
[06:11] <michael003> jbirdAngel_: OpenOffice should be able to open RTF
[06:12] <MZM> UncleD: dd or tar? I suggest to take look at sbackup
[06:12] <Riaal> lol, how do I go "away, not by the computer" whit gaim? im clicking "awat" and then "not..." but it doesnt work
[06:12] <UncleD> MZM: Let's say I have one HD, and I want to add another and make a RAID 1. Can that be done, even though one HD is currently empty ?
[06:12] <MZM> UncleD: it's different case -> wait 5 min...
[06:13] <mumbles> mcphail for some reasion i cant connect to the vnc server now
[06:13] <BlueEagle> uncled: raid1 is mirroring, right?
[06:13] <UncleD> BlueEagle: correct
[06:13] <UncleD> BlueEagle: I want a mirroring setup for my system.
[06:14] <azureal> Hi, if i wanted to stream realplayer video, should i get it the player from http://real.com/linux   , or install either realplay or realplayer (seems outdated) from synaptic?
[06:14] <geokok> any tips on firefox+quicktime (i have totem-xine plugin)?
[06:15] <JonasCJ> can someone tell me how to fix "Grub Error 18"?
[06:15] <anabain> anybody knows why can I ping from between two pcs but cannot reach internet (pc2 -->pc1(ppp0)) although I have iptable configured and ipforwarding?
[06:15] <CraZy675> ok and on kubuntu it won't let me install firefox from the add programs menu, how do I enable that?
[06:16] <CraZy675> there also isn't any options in the development category of the package manager
[06:16] <Paddy_EIRE> Has anyone in here managed to get talktalk broadband working on ubuntu???
[06:17] <soundray> Paddy_EIRE: is that a survey or a help request?
[06:18] <MZM> UncleD: You can google yourself, but basicly it goes like this:
[06:18] <mumbles> anabain using crosover cables ?
 its hardly a survey... Anyhow have u heard if its possible as i plan to leave BT
[06:19] <MZM> UncleD: 1) create partition with raid autodetect type; 2) create raid1 with one missing partition; 3) create FS on raid; 4) mount && copy data from existing partition to raid; 5) change original partition to raid and add it to raid.
[06:21] <soundray> Paddy_EIRE: no, I haven't heard, but if you find out a few technical details, it should be possible to find out.
[06:21] <anabain> mumbles, I think so, why?
[06:21] <mumbles> you can ping the other ocmptuer but not out to the net?
[06:21] <anabain> yes
[06:21] <mumbles> can the other comptuer ping out to the net?
[06:21] <soundray> Paddy_EIRE: even easier would be to just buy an Ethernet and/or wireless router that is compatible with the service
[06:21] <LadyNikon> DNS?
[06:21] <soundray> Paddy_EIRE: what type of modem do you use with BT?
question for u.. do u think the bt voyager routers work on other broadband providers?
[06:22] <anabain> mumbles: PC2(eth1)---->PC1(eth0)(ppp0 adsl-usb)--->internet
[06:22] <Paddy_EIRE> im using a voyager 205 adsl router
[06:22] <soundray> Paddy_EIRE: probably -- I think they are fairly standard hardware.
[06:22] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[06:22] <kitsuneofdoom> heylo...I'm noticing my CPU maxing out whenever I open something in SDL. Since I have a laptop, and power is somewhat of an issue, I would like to know how to stop this
[06:23] <voodoo> hi all
[06:23] <Paddy_EIRE> all i need to do is find out what the password is for the router config
[06:23] <virginijus> why synaptic canot run, if gtk not load,(only kdm ar kde) ?
[06:23] <UncleD> MZM: Thank you for that. Back to the backups, if I just want a complete backup of my system, will sbackup achieve that if I copy / and all sub-dir? Won't that miss the filesystem tables?
[06:23] <mumbles> Paddy_EIRE is there a reset switch ?
[06:23] <soundray> Paddy_EIRE: it's possible, though, that they try to lock them down via the firmware
[06:23] <voodoo> how can i use especial button in k9876 keyboard
[06:23] <mumbles> oh - bt voyerger
[06:24] <MZM> UncleD: sbackup is for backuping data files. trageted for endusers and not whole system backup. try simple tar
[06:24] <co00> hello i want to try ubuntu, my question is i have an amd turion 64 cpu, when i install the 64 bit ubuntu version do i need extra 64 bit software for it ?
[06:24] <UncleD> MZM: So, for my entire system backup, use tar?
[06:24] <anabain> mumbles, with PC2 being an old PII debian system, it worked
[06:25] <Riaal> how do I use chown for a dir and all subdirs and files? (launched ktorrent whit root privelige, messed up everything)
[06:25] <jbroome> Riaal: chown -R
[06:25] <MZM> UncleD: yap. use tar. but i moved two systems to Raid1 w/o problems (and backups) ;)
[06:25] <Riaal> thanks jbroome
[06:25] <jbroome> -R == recursive
[06:25] <anabain> mumbles, and with the same eth card
[06:26] <UncleD> MZM: I'm going to try and move my system to raid 1 but i want a backup too ;)
[06:27] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: Well, a lot of the Binary stuff won't work
[06:27] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: like Flash
[06:27] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: I'm using 64 on a Turion
[06:28] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: however, 32 bit software WILL run on it, you just need to get the 32-bit libraries
[06:29] <JeanLuc> Hey does the latest build of Ubuntu support mp3 play back
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> !mp3
[06:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:29] <tilstoy> Does anyone in here have any idea when the patch for the critical vulnerability in Rails is going to be released? It's been almost a week now and I'm starting to have serious doubts as to whether or not it will even be fixed.
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> if you install the right packages - yes. :P
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> same as always.
[06:29] <orbin> JeanLuc: not OOTB.
[06:30] <JeanLuc> is it hard to install
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Trivial - read the urls
[06:30] <aaron_> hello all
[06:30] <javb> Hello people. I have installed Skype from the repositories, and i have a doubt. The appearence of the program is not the same as all the programs. Its, mmm, UGLY? dunnow... can some one give me an idea of what to do? (it also takes a lot to start)
[06:30] <winball> How can I change my charset from UTF-8, to ISO-8859-1 ? I only find how-tos for older versions of ubuntu
[06:30] <aaron_> I have an odd question
[06:30] <orbin> JeanLuc: if you can install ubuntu you can install the codecs :)
[06:30] <JeanLuc> i'm new to linux, i'm trying to install it for my sister so she doesn't have to deal with XP problems
[06:30] <CyDrive> Anyone know of a free proxy tester?
 maybe.... I think ill google voyager 205 and find out if i can use 3rd party firmaware of any kind
[06:30] <JeanLuc> alright i tried it on SUSE 10.1 and i couldn't figure it out
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> JeanLuc,  it pays to read read and read some more. :P
[06:30] <RetLaw> Hi, I'm new to Ubunti and installing Ubuntu Server 6.06. I have a problem. Someone willing to help me out ?
[06:30] <RetLaw> I have a LAN connected to the Internet through IPCOP. As soon the Ubuntu Server is connected to the LAN DNS-resolution seems to get messed up. None of the pc's can connect anymore to new websites. When already on a website, clicking for pages works. So I assume it's DNS-related ? What can I do to solve this ?
[06:30] <JeanLuc> yea i'm in a hurry
[06:31] <Riaal> im trying to get ktorrent to auto open when i download torrent files, where is the program located? =S
[06:31] <orbin> JeanLuc: you're welcome to get help in here if you have trouble
[06:31] <lucox> hey human beings, can i achieve this option   : grep -i pentiumm /boot/config-2.6.15-26-386   =>    CONFIG_MPENTIUMM is not set     to SET (y/m)   without compiling kernel ? :-) hmmm ?  i don't want to compile kernel even if in debian i had to ....      my problem (other way said) is: frequency scaling is ok but "fan scaling" not, and i think it's this option that i wrote above ...
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> JeanLuc,  set up the extra repositiories.. insall a few packages.. done.
[06:31] <JeanLuc> alright thanks a lot i'll work in it this week
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:32] <azureal> while installing realplayer10 i'm getting a strange prompt: "enter the prefix for symbolic links [/usr] :"  any ideas?
[06:32] <co00> what is better for an amd turion 64, ubuntu normal or the 64 bit version, will i have problems with software ?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> azureal,  enter /usr perhaps ?    or hit return. :P
[06:32] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: For maximum speed, the 64 bit edition. For maximum ease, go with 32
[06:32] <JonasCJ> Why doesnt reinstalling GRUP on hd0 (MBR) fix the GRUP error 18?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> azureal,  its asking where to install to.
[06:32] <azureal> Dr_Willis, i kinda want to know what it means
[06:33] <co00> lok
[06:33] <javb> Hello people. I have installed Skype from the repositories, and i have a doubt. The appearence of the program is not the same as all the programs. Its, mmm, UGLY? dunnow... can some one give me an idea of what to do? (it also takes a lot to start)
[06:33] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: mostly, math speed, like md5sums
[06:33] <azureal> Dr_Willis, earlier i gave it the path /usr/lib/realplayer   for installation
[06:33] <JeanLuc> oh one more thing... how is the support for SSH tunneling? ie... user friendly?
[06:33] <co00> and does ubuntu support ATI Radeon X200 ??
[06:33] <azureal> Dr_Willis, so i don't think /usr will be enough...
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> JeanLuc,  ssh is  a very large and flexable tool. and worth learning about.. how do you expect to make it user firendly? :P
[06:34] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: Accelerated or regular?
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> azureal,  no idea there. i normally let it use the defaults.
[06:34] <JeanLuc> i got it working on XP machines
[06:34] <co00> regular
[06:34] <JeanLuc> but i want a linux based sever
[06:34] <ag0ny> i am trying to recompile my kernel without PREEMPT and i get the following error: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/2829/. can someone tell me what is going wrong? sorry its german logs...
[06:34] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: then you're fine...but if you want accelerated graphics, you need to see if the ATi drivers will work
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> JeanLuc,  a server to serve what?  :)
[06:35] <co00> anyone expiriences with radeon x200 and 3d in ubuntu ?
[06:35] <JeanLuc> files to and from when i'm away from home on my labtop
[06:35] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: but if you just want word processing and maybe some non-OpenGL games, then you're fine
[06:35] <trygg> Do anyone know what im doing wrong with this: 'tar czvf trygg.tgz /home/trygg/.* --exclude=..' gets /home/trygg/./* , but i want it to only get /home/trygg/.* ?
[06:35] <co00> opengl would be nice if possible
[06:35] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: You said you wanted regular...3D would be accelerated
[06:35] <CyDrive> can anyone recommend a program that can check a list of proxies to see if they are good or not?
[06:35] <co00> yeh i mean 3d sorry
[06:36] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: I have a link, hold on a sec
[06:36] <co00> i want just opengl to work and wireless lan that would be perfect
[06:36] <aaron_> A server was donated to our location, HP Netserver 5/100 LH with 64 MB RAM and 100 Mhz processor. I was hoping to run xubuntu off of it, or ubuntu server LTS. I cannot boot off of CD, the existing SCSI CDROM is fritzy and ide is not working, I cannot get into BIOS. Booting off of a floppy doesn't work because the scsi drive doesn't fit on it. the network boot process would not work either,...
[06:36] <aaron_> ...due to the above reasons. There is no USB. Any possible ideas? I'm really hoping to get this thing off of my workbench (it's been there for two weeks)
[06:36] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[06:36] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: it's not exactly easy
[06:36] <prakash> hi
[06:36] <jbroome> aaron_: sometimes free computers are the most expensive ones. :)
[06:36] <aaron_> ahaha
[06:37] <aaron_> yes, I agree
[06:37] <RetLaw> Hi folks, should I follow a special procedure when asking a Q over here ?
[06:37] <JeanLuc>             dvorak.org/blog
[06:37] <co00> kitsuneofdoom: thanks for the link
[06:37] <orbin> RetLaw: yeah, don't ask to ask ;)
[06:37] <kitsuneofdoom> RetLaw: give more info than neccesary, and don't ask if you can ask a question
[06:37] <co00> is there also a link for Wlan drivers ?
[06:38] <CyDrive> aaron: just an idea not sure if it will work ut temporarly change the power supply in the machine so you can have the computer boot from cdrom then after you intsall the os put the old battery supply back in
[06:38] <harisund> Perhaps there should be a channel dedicated to Ubuntu on AMD64. :(
[06:38] <kitsuneofdoom> RetLaw: definitly give the version # and processor type, perhaps anything you changed
[06:38] <co00> because i have only wireless internet and an os without support my wlan would be pointless
[06:38] <kyja> ok. I have installed the gflrx. 3d does not effect proccesses hardly at all. however seems that 2d with lots of colors does hog cpu? I dont know.
[06:38] <HMwiii> can anyone tell me what the package linux-tree is?
[06:38] <kyja> and I cant seems to change resolutions.
[06:38] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: hmmm....well...what wireless card
[06:38] <orbin> kyja: does fglrxinfo say ATI or mesa?
[06:39] <kyja> ati
[06:39] <mookid> :o
[06:39] <kyja> its functioning I guess
[06:39] <co00> Broadcom 802.11 B/G WLAN
[06:39] <HMwiii> i was hoping it would put the kernal sources in my /usr/src/ directory
[06:39] <co00> its build in notebook
[06:39] <orbin> kyja: how'd you install fglrx?
[06:39] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: What notebook?
[06:39] <PurpleTen> whats the command to find out what ur ip is?
[06:39] <kyja> cooo I have a perfect url for help with that 1 sec
[06:39] <jbroome> PurpleTen: ifconfig
[06:39] <co00> hp pavillion dv5030
[06:39] <PurpleTen> in ubuntu
[06:39] <jbroome> for internal ip
[06:39] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: yeah, I have a 5000 series too
[06:40] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: you running Ubuntu too?
[06:40] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: now?
[06:40] <co00> no i want to install it
[06:40] <aaron_> hmm cydrive, I think you mean battery (BIOS), interesting idea, though the problem is that I don't know where to get one. The thing is an external battery, about the size of a 9volt, and is taped to the inside of the case!!
[06:40] <aaron_> =P
[06:40] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: I see...well, do you happen to know the model # of the card
[06:40] <co00> kitsuneofdoom: have you the same hardware like me ?
[06:40] <aaron_> I'm wondering, is it possible to install ubuntu over a serial cable?
[06:40] <RetLaw> Ok, the Q is : I'm new to Ubuntu and installing Ubuntu Server 6.06. I have a problem. I have a LAN connected to the Internet through IPCOP. As soon the Ubuntu Server is connected to the LAN DNS-resolution seems to get messed up. None of the pc's can connect anymore to new websites. When already on a website, clicking for pages works. What can I do to solve this ?
[06:40] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: not quite sure, I got the card with the A/B/G/Bluetooth
[06:40] <kyja> I just got bvm4306 on my zd800 going with this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[06:40] <HMwiii> i don't know where this guy gets his kernal source
[06:41] <kyja> er bcm4306 hehe
[06:41] <co00> kitsuneofdoom: and did your wlan driver work under ubuntu ?
[06:41] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: I suggest trying to get wired internet at least for a little if possible
[06:41] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: I got it working
[06:41] <HMwiii> kyja:  i will try it out
[06:41] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: it took a while
[06:41] <kyja> and advice
[06:41] <co00> kitsuneofdoom: cool and your graphics adapter is radeon x200 mobile too ?
[06:41] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: use the fwcutter package
[06:41] <sunnyyyy> sorry for disturbing , anyone here with knowlegde about backtrack??
[06:41] <aaron_> yes
[06:42] <kyja> when you go to enable wireless disable card ethernet. and wait a few secs
[06:42] <lucox> hey human beings, can i achieve this option   : grep -i pentiumm /boot/config-2.6.15-26-386   =>    CONFIG_MPENTIUMM is not set     to SET (y/m)   without compiling kernel ? :-) hmmm ?  i don't want to compile kernel even if in debian i had to ....      my problem (other way said) is: frequency scaling is ok but "fan scaling" not, a
[06:42] <PurpleTen> how do you chnage the settings for remote desktop in ubuntu?
[06:42] <aaron_> more with auditor, though
[06:42] <CyDrive> aaron: that is odd never come across anything like that before. I would suggest taking out the hardrive and putting it in another computer and installing it but im not sure when you put the hardrive back in ubuntu would cooperate nicely since its not configured with that hardware
[06:42] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: XPress 200M? yeah. Didn't get it working
[06:42] <sunnyyyy> sorry for disturbing , anyone here with knowlegde about backtrack??
[06:42] <sunnyyyy> sorry for disturbing , anyone here with knowlegde about backtrack??
[06:42] <moconnor> Is it possible to get packages of Perl which install into /opt or /usr/local (or anywhere other than over the default system Perl)?  I want to have multiple versions of Perl available at the same time, but I still want them all from Debian packages.
[06:42] <co00> kitsuneofdoom: yes the xpress, so it does not work with 3d for you ?
[06:42] <lostinc> Can anyone tell me what this error from Sound-juicer means "Sound Juicer could not extract this CD.
[06:42] <lostinc> Reason: File not found"
[06:42] <sunnyyyy> sorry for disturbing , anyone here with knowlegde about backtrack??
[06:43] <sunnyyyy> sorry for disturbing , anyone here with knowlegde about backtrack??
[06:43] <co00> kitsuneofdoom: yes the xpress, so it does not work with 3d for you ?
[06:43] <morghot> hello
[06:43] <orbin> co00: mine works fine
[06:43] <HMwiii> or is that just the same as kernel,org?
[06:44] <kyja> !changeing resolutions
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changeing resolutions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <orbin> co00: it kills suspend though
[06:44] <aaron_> cydrive: yes, that may be my next step, though the harddrive in slot one of the array is stuck! I can't get it out, I suppose that I'll try prying it out... now you can see why it was donated
[06:44] <sunnyyyy> sorry for disturbing , anyone here with knowlegde about backtrack??
[06:44] <KenSentMe> !fixres > kyja
[06:44] <co00> orbin: you have the radeon xpress200 mobile
[06:44] <guest1> sunnyyyy, the security toolkit?
[06:44] <orbin> co00: yes. in a presario
[06:44] <morghot> i need a repository for ubuntu breezy whit mjpegtool and trancode packages ? anybody can help me ?
[06:44] <co00> orbin: does opengl run with it in ubutnu?
[06:44] <azureal> still can't make realplayer work; from http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html  step 3 is to "Make sure a symbolic link to the realplay script is in your PATH."   what does this mean
[06:45] <orbin> co00: yes.  install the fglrx driver
[06:45] <KenSentMe> HMwiii: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/kernel-source-2.4.27
[06:45] <orbin> !ati > co00
[06:45] <CyDrive> aaron: yeahsounds like a piece of shit lol but i dont think it will work due to hardware configuration during installation
[06:45] <co00> orbin: ok cool
[06:45] <orbin> co00: read the info ubotu sent you
[06:45] <fresch> anybody done some python gtk/gnome scripts? i have some problems with the egg module and slow logout.
[06:45] <orbin> co00: like i said,  i find it kills suspend though....that might be an issue for you too
[06:45] <guest1> Can someone direct me to installing Dapper over the network?
[06:46] <morghot> i need a repository for ubuntu breezy whit mjpegtool and trancode packages ? anybody can help me ?
[06:46] <jbroome> !info transcode
[06:46] <ubotu> transcode: Utility to encode raw video/audio streams. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0.2-0.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 14123 kB, installed size 42172 kB
[06:46] <jbroome> morghot: enable multiverse
[06:46] <HMwiii> KenSentMe: im not shure if im doing the right thing with this
[06:46] <morghot> ok
[06:46] <orbin> azureal: last time i did the install, i just just defaults by pressing enter ...i just use w32codecs now though
[06:46] <HMwiii> but thanks :)
[06:47] <orbin> *just used
[06:47] <aaron_> does anyone know if it is possible to install ubuntu (or xubuntu) over a serial cable?
[06:47] <aaron_> or parallel
[06:47] <jbroome> aaron_: i don't think it is
[06:48] <aaron_> hmm
[06:48] <orbin> aaron_: is that possible w/ any os? :-/
[06:48] <RetLaw> I'm new to Ubuntu and installing Ubuntu Server 6.06. I have a problem. I have a LAN connected to the Internet through IPCOP. As soon the Ubuntu Server is connected to the LAN DNS-resolution seems to get messed up. None of the pc's can connect anymore to new websites. When already on a website, clicking for pages works. What can I do to solve this ?
[06:48] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: sorry for the delay, I'm at work...
[06:49] <aaron_> not really sure!
[06:49] <morghot> jbroome thanks, all ist ok
[06:49] <emadamar_> hi
[06:49] <UncleD> MZM: I just done this: tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /
[06:49] <emadamar_> Can't exec /usr/bin/php
[06:49] <CVirus-Costa> is there a way that I could initialize my sound card as if the machine has been rebooted ?
[06:49] <aaron_> I could probably connect the two over a modem and screw with x.400 or something to transfer files
[06:50] <HMwiii> pleaseeeeeeeeeeee
[06:50] <aaron_> though that would take more time than I have to waste...
[06:50] <PurpleTen> is there any other way to login remotely, im using remote desktop to control the computer atm but it doesnt work till im login
[06:50] <emadamar_> i can exec i get this eror
[06:50] <emadamar_> Can't exec /usr/bin/php
[06:50] <HMwiii> :-X
[06:50] <kyja> kyja@kyja-laptop:~$ /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:50] <kyja>  * Stopping GNOME Display Manager...                                     [ ok ] 
[06:50] <kyja>  * Starting GNOME Display Manager...                                     [fail] 
[06:50] <kyja> heh
[06:50] <morghot> emadamar_, chmod 755 /usr/bin/php
[06:50] <anabain> is there any way to tell ping to make it from a specific interface, say eth1 instead of eth0?
[06:51] <MZM> UncleD: actualy it's waste of time and disk space to backup programm files as you always can reinstall them ;)
[06:51] <emadamar_> chmod: cannot access `/usr/bin/php': No such file or dire
[06:52] <HMwiii> KERNEL_SOURCE=$(MODPATH)/source
[06:52] <HMwiii> where on earth is that going to go
[06:52] <HMwiii> modpath
[06:52] <HMwiii> ??????????
[06:52] <morghot> emadamar_, look at if that directory is created or not
[06:52] <t> is there a way to replace the graphical ubuntu load screen (the one that appears when you reboot) with a non-gui text one?
[06:53] <aaron_> ok, thanks everyone for their help! (I'm going to go throw this out the window, though I'll probably break my back in the process...)
[06:53] <emadamar_> how
[06:53] <kitsuneofdoom> heylo...I'm noticing my CPU maxing out whenever I open something in SDL. Since I have a laptop, and power is somewhat of an issue, I would like to know how to stop this
[06:53] <JymmmEMC> I don't need to print. From within synaptic, right click remove hplip, then it says it needs to remove ununtu-desktop. is that right?
[06:53] <emadamar_> morghot how
[06:53] <UncleD> MZM: Which files do you mean?
[06:53] <emadamar_> ??
[06:53] <UncleD> MZM: Why is it a waste of time. If I need to completely restore my system, it'll have everything I want.
[06:53] <morghot> emadamar_, cd /usr/bin/php
[06:53] <trappist> kitsuneofdoom: what video card?
[06:53] <MZM> UncleD: I backup only /etc /home and /var/www.
[06:53] <kitsuneofdoom> JymmmEMC: Ubuntu-desktop is a package that installs other packages. Most people want hplip, so they put it as a dependency for ubuntu-desktop
[06:54] <phanerothyme11> Hi, I'm trying to get my nvidia nforce2 installer to recompile my kernel, I have got as far as correctly specifying the kernel source path, but now it is asking me for the kernel output path. Any clues as to what this might be?
[06:54] <kitsuneofdoom> trappist: Radeon XPress 200M, using OSS drivers
[06:54] <emadamar_> bash: cd: /usr/bin/php: No such file or directory
[06:54] <UncleD> MZM: I see. but I want my system the way it is now, without the need to re-install everything by apt :)
[06:54] <trappist> kitsuneofdoom: you'll need to use the proprietary drivers so your video card will do efficiently what your cpu is trying to do now
[06:54] <JymmmEMC> kitsuneofdoom: Will I fubar something if I remove it?
[06:54] <morghot> emadamar_,  that directory ist missing in your system
[06:55] <harisund> JymmmEMC I was having that big problem as well In fact, I wanted to remove a lot of things and everything wanted to remove ubuntu-desktop. I guess you can live without that silly meta package :0
[06:55] <sahasrara> are binary files of programs for a specific distro, whereas source you can make a binary for *your* particular distro?
[06:55] <kitsuneofdoom> trappist: I can't...
[06:55] <emadamar_> any why to fix
[06:55] <sahasrara> so if you don't know which distro you will use, it's best to download source?
[06:55] <emadamar_> way
[06:55] <azureal> orbin: ??
[06:55] <harisund> sahasrara what do you mean 'don't know which distro you will use' ?
[06:55] <M06w> ho do i log in as root?
[06:55] <soundray> When I acpi-suspend my laptop, it loses the wakeonlan setting I made with ethtool. How can I prevent that?
[06:55] <morghot> emadamar_, create it
[06:55] <jcole> trappist: ?
[06:56] <trappist> jcole: what other configs
[06:56] <jbroome> !sudo > M06w
[06:56] <emadamar_> how
[06:56] <jcole> trappist: in the meta package
[06:56] <M06w> no, not sudo
[06:56] <morghot> mkdir /usr/bin/php
[06:56] <JymmmEMC> harisund:  but meta pkg you mean the desktop ?
[06:56] <M06w> i just want to log in as root
[06:56] <trappist> jcole: I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish
[06:56] <kitsuneofdoom> M06w: log in regular, then type sudo -s
[06:56] <M06w> so that i dont have to use the terminal
[06:56] <JymmmEMC> s/but/by/
[06:56] <jcole> trappist: i compile all these -> linux-doc-2.6.15_2.6.15-126.46_all.deb linux-headers-2.6.15-26_2.6.15-126.46_i386.deb linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386_2.6.15-126.46_i386.deb linux-headers-2.6.15-26-686_2.6.15-126.46_i386.deb linux-headers-2.6.15-26-k7_2.6.15-126.46_i386.deb linux-headers-2.6.15-26-server_2.6.15-126.46_i386.deb linux-headers-2.6.15-26-server-bigiron_2.6.15-126.46_i386.deb linux-image-2.6.15-26-386_2.6.15-126.46_i386.deb linux-image-2.6.15-26-686_2
[06:56] <harisund> JymmmEMC there is a  package called ubuntu-desktop. It basically brings along a ton of stuff.
[06:56] <kitsuneofdoom> M06w: what do you mean?
[06:56] <sahasrara> harisund: i mean, i want to give a program to someone else, and i don't know which distro they'll use if any, but i just want them to have it
[06:57] <sahasrara> distro of linux
[06:57] <harisund> sahasrara oh .. in that case easiest would be to give the source and ask them to compile it.
[06:57] <jcole> trappist: i'm supplying all kernels with CONFIG_REGPARM=y
[06:57] <trappist> jcole: no, each kernel package has a separate config
[06:57] <sahasrara> ok thanks harisund
[06:57] <jcole> trappist: i bumped the ABI version to 126
[06:57] <sahasrara> so the binaries are for ease of use if you already have a distro going
[06:57] <jcole> trappist: where do i add CONFIG_REGPARM=y?
[06:58] <bam_> Hi...I was wondering if there was any good programs too capture all the information/signals sent by a device?
[06:58] <harisund> sahasrara typically the developers of each distro compile the various softwares and put it in the repos.
[06:58] <emadamar_> how i can create
[06:58] <jbirdAngel_> michael003: okay thanks
[06:58] <M06w> im trying to move my setup files from my firefox on windows to my firefox here and it says i dont have write permission to the firefox folder
[06:58] <iron[linux] > hello
[06:58] <RetLaw> I'm new to Ubuntu and installing Ubuntu Server 6.06. I have a problem. I have a LAN connected to the Internet through IPCOP. As soon the Ubuntu Server is connected to the LAN DNS-resolution seems to get messed up. None of the pc's can connect anymore to new websites. When already on a website, clicking for pages works. What can I do to solve this ?
[06:58] <harisund> sahasrara and there is no telling binaries made by devs of one distro are compatible with the other, though I belive projects like the Linux Standard Base intend to achive just that.
[06:58] <emadamar_> thanks man for u help
[06:58] <emadamar_> i have to go now
[06:58] <emadamar_> bye
[06:58] <soundray> M06w: move them to the directory inside $HOME/.firefox/ instead
[06:58] <sahasrara> ok, thanks harisund....
[06:58] <sahasrara> ok
[06:58] <sahasrara> bye for now......
[06:58] <soundray> M06w: there is a directory in there with a random name.
[06:59] <M06w> wheres $home
[06:59] <trappist> jcole: in the .config file in the kernel source directory
[06:59] <_w^x_> anyone got the book "ubuntu hacks"
[06:59] <teicah> echo $HOME
[06:59] <soundray> M06w: just use it literally; enter 'cd $HOME/.firefox/default/'
[06:59] <JohnUK89> Can someone help me with a problem installing nVidia drivers? I've ran through the instructions on the Wiki, but whenever X tries to start using the nvidia driver it locks up.
[07:00] <_w^x_> It's a pretty good one I recommend it.
[07:00] <harisund> soundray it is .firefox? I thought it was .mozilla ?
[07:00] <trappist> RetLaw: is the correct dns server listed as a nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf, and can you reach that server?
[07:00] <M06w> ok, let me say it again, i want to do this with out using the terminal
[07:00] <soundray> M06w: then enter ls and see what the random name is
[07:00] <jcole> trappist: are you talking about the special debian/ubuntu kernel meta package or a regular compile of 1 kernel?
[07:00] <trappist> jcole: 1 kernel.
[07:01] <trappist> jcole: I don't think there's a single file to edit to affect the config of all kernels built by the metapackage
[07:01] <soundray> harisund: here it is firefox -- but thanks... M06w, it is possible that you have to look in $HOME/.mozilla instead of $HOME/.firefox
[07:01] <UncleD> MZM: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1193562138 2006-08-14 08:55 backup.tgz
[07:01] <RetLaw> trappist: don't know, but that shouldn't affect other computers whEN THE Ubuntu-server is connected to the LAN, isn't it ?
[07:01] <jcole> trappist: i'm familiar of building a kernel and doing a make mrproper; make oldconfig etc.
[07:01] <bhushanb> I want to prevent a daemon from starting at boot time. I tried dpkg-reconfigure. It did not show any options to prevent the daemon from starting. How can I do this?
[07:01] <M06w> nether
[07:01] <jcole> trappist: you don't know what i'm trying to do
[07:01] <harisund> bhushanb do you know the name of the daemon?
[07:01] <bhushanb> squid
[07:01] <trappist> jcole: well make mrproper is deprecated :)  and no, I don't know what you're trying to do.
[07:01] <bhushanb> harisund: squid
[07:02] <harisund> bhushanb try executing 'sudo update-rc.d -f squid remove'
[07:02] <soundray> M06w: what happens when you type 'cd $HOME/.firefox/default' ?
[07:02] <M06w> NO TERMINAL
[07:02] <teicah> shouldn't it be cd
[07:02] <trappist> RetLaw: I'm having trouble parsing your question
[07:02] <soundray> M06w: do you have a gnome desktop in front of you?
[07:02] <teicah>                      $HOME/.mozilla/firefox?
[07:02] <M06w> yes
[07:03] <soundray> M06w: have you got a terminal window open?
[07:03] <jcole> trappist: i'm simply rebuilding all i386 linux 2.6.15 based kernels using the meta package and trying to figure out where to add my config... there are like 10 of them in this meta packages
[07:03] <M06w> no
[07:03] <soundray> M06w: open one, then.
[07:03] <M06w> no
[07:03] <bhushanb> harisund: thanks a lot
[07:03] <kitsuneofdoom> M06w: why not?
[07:03] <jcole> trappist: i've appended to all of them and my change doesn't apply
[07:03] <M06w> becuase i should be able to drag the fiels i want from that window to the other with out any problem
[07:03] <RetLaw> trappist: I installed Ubuntu Server 6.06. When I connect that machine to the lan, the OTHER computers can't resolve dns-names anymore
[07:03] <JymmmEMC> harisund: I love the desc for ununtu-desktop "It is safe to remove this package if some of the desktop system packages are not desired. However....."
[07:03] <jcole> trappist: there must be some "debian way" i'm not familiar with, like a config.local type file
[07:04] <lhds> euh i have booted and discovered that there were no file system on my disk anymore
[07:04] <lhds> how did that happen?
[07:04] <lhds> i cannot mount /dev/sda1
[07:04] <soundray> M06w: okay, you can do it your way, of course, but I won't help you.
[07:04] <lhds> not readable
[07:04] <trappist> jcole: ah, ok.  I'm afraid I don't know the answer to that question.  it may be answered on the wiki.
[07:04] <lhds> shall  i reinstall?
[07:05] <co00> when i install ubuntu do i have to make a partition for it , or i can install it on a folder to my hardrive ?
[07:05] <manopulus> bluepin failed, cannot import _gtk in python.. any replacement (gtk/gnome bluetooth management needed)
[07:05] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: make a partition
[07:05] <co00> ok
[07:05] <HMwiii> if only /bla dir is made, can i make /bla/fdls/ksdfl/somthing/somthing all a once somehow?
[07:05] <HMwiii> or do i have to create each dir one by one?
[07:05] <erie> yes
[07:06] <erie> mkdir -p
[07:06] <HMwiii> :)
[07:06] <co00> kitsueneofdoom can i email you later for question about driver install ? because you have the same notbook
[07:06] <RetLaw> trappist : is on Ubuntu Server per default a DNS-server active ? If so how do I stop it ?
[07:07] <llhorian> hrm, I made a clean install of dapper and nautilus, evolution and the add/remove thingy all hang, would anybody know how to handle this? (perhaps it happens all the time on first-time installs and there's an easy answer? *hopes* )
[07:07] <soundray> RetLaw: not by default
[07:07] <Blue89> what do I have to apt-get install to use a setup.py?
[07:07] <kitsuneofdoom> co00: sure, I'll PM you my e-mail
[07:07] <co00> ok fine
[07:07] <Blue89> nevermind, I fond it
[07:07] <Blue89> found
[07:08] <kitsuneofdoom> M06w: is it all that difficult to open a terminal window?
[07:08] <JohnUK89> Can someone help me with a problem installing nVidia drivers? I've ran through the instructions on the Wiki, but whenever X tries to start using the nvidia driver it locks up (I'm using a GeForce 6200)
[07:08] <RetLaw> soundray: As soon the Ubuntu Server is connected to my LAN DNS-resolution seems to get messed up. None of the pc's can connect anymore to new websites. When already on a website, clicking for pages works. What can I do to solve this ? I thought it might have todo with an active DNS-server on Ubuntu
[07:08] <Paddy_EIRE> can anyone tell me which port i should use for azeurus as the default doesnt work and messed my connection so i had to restart
[07:08] <kitsuneofdoom> M06w: anyway, you can open a single graphical program as root by prefixing it with gksudo
[07:09] <soundray> RetLaw: have you configured a static IP?
[07:09] <RetLaw> soundray: no
[07:09] <frfx> must I edit something in an Apache config file to let users from the internet connect to my server?now only people in my LAN can connect to my webserver..
[07:09] <soundray> kitsuneofdoom: I think he might just be trolling.
[07:09] <RetLaw> soundray : should get it from my DHCP
[07:10] <Terminus> frfx: are you behind a NAT? if so, you have to forward port 80 to the ip of your webserver.
[07:10] <kitsuneofdoom> soundray: Quite possible, however, I would like to uphold the reputation of Ubuntu as a friendly distribution, so I'll try and help him anyway
[07:10] <soundray> RetLaw: are you running a DHCP server elsewhere on your LAN?
[07:10] <RetLaw> yes
[07:10] <jah_raztah> how do i install seamonkey on my dapper
[07:10] <kitsuneofdoom> jah_raztah: get the source and compile it
[07:10] <frfx> Terminus: it is forwarded..no config files?
[07:11] <kitsuneofdoom> jah_raztah: I suggest checkinstall, as it will make uninstalls/updates easier
[07:11] <Terminus> frfx: well, if you want to accept connections on all ips, just make sure it's listening on *:80
[07:11] <jah_raztah> it will not me included in dapper's backport or proposed packages?
[07:11] <soundray> kitsuneofdoom: this is the third day in a row where I'm seeing this guy run down those who try to help him.
[07:11] <kitsuneofdoom> soundray: see, I didn't know that
[07:11] <Terminus> frfx: check /etc/apache2/ports.conf and if it says Listen 80, users from the internet should be able to connect just fine.
[07:12] <jah_raztah> seamonkey is the internet suit from mozilla which provides a webbrowser, e-mail client irc client and calender integrated into one program
[07:12] <Terminus> frfx: what ip address are your internet users trying to use to get to your webserver anyway?
[07:12] <soundray> RetLaw: oops, sorry, missed your reply
[07:12] <RetLaw> soundray : yes i have a DHCP on the lan, does UBUNTU too ?
[07:12] <soundray> RetLaw: is the IP assigned to your ubuntu box different from the IP of the DNS server?
[07:13] <frfx> Terminus: ports.conf say "Listen 80"..you want to know the ip address of my server?
[07:13] <Boudi> Is there seamonkey package available for Ubuntu?
[07:13] <Terminus> frfx: yes.
[07:13] <soundray> RetLaw: check with dpkg -l bind ; if you get a line starting with ii, then it is installed
[07:13] <RetLaw> didn't check that, is not active know because of the problem
[07:13] <kitsuneofdoom> jah_raztah: It's not in Dapper. I've checked. Sorry.
[07:13] <chrn> ACTION is away: Auto-Away aps 20 minutos idle (since: 01:44:47) HH 4.3
[07:13] <rsk> Boudi: sudo apt-get search seamonkey
[07:13] <Terminus> frfx: the one you have been giving out to people who are supposed to access it off the internet.
[07:13] <t> anyone know where there is a good tutorial for recompiling the linux kernel w/ ubuntu?
[07:13] <Terminus> frfx: i assume you're hosting this on the network where you are right now?
[07:13] <RetLaw> soundray: is a DHCP running on Ubuntu per default ?
[07:13] <Doodluv> frfx: make sure you are using the router address for users outside ur LAN not the 192.168.whatever
[07:14] <RetLaw> soundray : how to stop ?
[07:14] <soundray> RetLaw: like I said, no
[07:14] <[b] urk> t, probably at ubuntuforums.org
[07:14] <Boudi> rsk : it is rather sudo apt-cache search seamonkey
[07:14] <soundray> RetLaw: if you have bind, remove it with 'apt-get --purge remove bind'
[07:14] <kitsuneofdoom> Boudi: not in seamonkey
[07:14] <kitsuneofdoom> Boudi: Not in Dapper I mean
[07:14] <RetLaw> soundray : the no was for DNS :-)
[07:14] <jah_raztah> any plans to get seamonkey in backports or proposed package repository?
[07:15] <frfx> Doodluv: i know that :)
[07:15] <Boudi> Thanks for your reply kitsuneofdoom
[07:15] <frfx> Terminus: wait a sec
[07:15] <soundray> RetLaw: oops ;) but it's still a no
[07:15] <ENE|Toxic> How can I get echo to interpret rowbreaks? ie in a bashcript: var=`cat /file.txt`; echo $var > new_file.txt | Second q. How can I get sed to do branch expansion, ie: sed -e 's/ ${a} / ${b} /g where a,b are variables. ?
[07:15] <Doodluv> frfx: yeah i hesitated to say it, didn't want to sound insulting
[07:16] <Terminus> frfx: nevermind. i was asking because of the same reason Doodluv said what he said. =D
[07:16] <Dimensions> hi when i try to install ssh it says timestamp too far in the future and shows current date time which is correct in the computer
[07:16] <HMwiii>  /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/usb/net/zd1211/zd1211.ko
[07:16] <HMwiii> and
[07:16] <HMwiii> /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/net/zd1211.ko
[07:16] <HMwiii> whats the differents? and which one do i overwrite with my new driver?
[07:16] <kyja> ok in screen savers: even the demo of xlyap is extreamly cpu intensive. or the game Falcon's eye.
[07:16] <frfx> Doodluv: thats no problem :) it could be i didnt know
[07:16] <azureal> ubuntuforums down
[07:16] <HMwiii> the two files are difent by md5
[07:16] <RetLaw> soundray: then I'm confused as I installed, didn't change anything, and connected to the LAN with the problems described
[07:16] <kyja> and no I still cant adjust screen resolution with the resolution panel :(
[07:17] <Terminus> frfx: which leaves only one thing left, are you sure your ISP doesn't block port 80?
[07:17] <frfx> Terminus: i have sent you my ip.did you got it?i don't know..i can make it listen on another port
[07:18] <soundray> RetLaw: 'dpkg -l dhcpcd'?
[07:18] <JymmmEMC> kitsuneofdoom: harisund : Thanks for the help. I have to install ununtu on a laptop too, so I'll try removing ununto-desktop on that install and see how sadistic it gets =)
[07:19] <Dimensions> any one knows answer to my question ? infact i am getting the same reply when ever i do sudo
[07:19] <soundray> HMwiii: 'find /lib/modules -name \*.ko'
[07:19] <RetLaw> soundray: have to start the machine, comming back
[07:20] <Terminus> frfx: i didn't get it. you have to be registered here to be able to send private messages. is it the same ip i can get from your whois? try having it listen on a weird port, like 14534.
[07:20] <soundray> RetLaw: just unplug the patch cable if it's causing disruption
[07:20] <HMwiii> soundray: I have found them the problem is I've found to and i don't know which one to replace :)
[07:20] <ENE|Toxic> How can I get echo to interpret rowbreaks? ie in a bashcript: var=`cat /file.txt`; echo $var > new_file.txt | Second q. How can I get sed to do branch expansion, ie: sed -e 's/ ${a} / ${b} /g where a,b are variables. ?
[07:20] <frfx> Terminus: sorry didnt know that
[07:21] <azureal> realplayer plugin for firefox...can't get it to work =/
[07:21] <whitesuit> anyone here using bluefish ?
[07:21] <soundray> HMwiii: I only have one of those on my system, and it's /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-amd64-k8/kernel/drivers/usb/net/zd1211/zd1211.ko
[07:21] <frfx> Terminus: yes it is the same..can you try to connect on the normal port 80 first?
[07:22] <Terminus> frfx: i already tried. couldn't get through.
[07:22] <M06w> why is it possible that there are files on MY computer that I am not allowed to edit?
[07:22] <frfx> Terminus: my ip is 82.174.141.245 did you tried that ip?
[07:22] <ymlu> M06w: u dont have permissions
[07:22] <VisezTrance> i just installed xubuntu, however sound does not work. i have a crd 4235-6 sound card (its code name at alsa-project is cs 4236) on a isa slot.
[07:23] <RetLaw> soundray: "No packages found matching dhcpcd"
[07:23] <soundray> M06w: it is a protection measure that not only helps to protect you from your own mistakes, but also from cracker attacks.
[07:23] <M06w> and how, I being the ONLY account on the computer, do i not have permmisions
[07:23] <ninn> how can i get svgalib 1.9+ in ubuntu?
[07:23] <soundray> M06w: if you really want to be helped, I suggest you try to be slightly less obtuse.
[07:23] <rsk> ninn: download it
[07:23] <ninn> manual compile?
[07:23] <Terminus> frfx: yep, tried it on port 80, doesn't work.
[07:24] <rsk> sure
[07:24] <ninn> thanks :)
[07:24] <ymlu> M06w: yes, linux is restrictive
[07:24] <M06w> how do i get permissions
[07:24] <soundray> M06w: the way things work in ubuntu may be different from the ways you are used to. That doesn't mean that anything is wrong with the ubuntu way, though.
[07:24] <BDerwent> hello guys, i'm trying to get the Nvidia driver to install, but it tells me that i don't have "gcc"  Any ideas?
[07:24] <ymlu> M06w: sudo su
[07:24] <Terminus> !sudo > M06w
[07:24] <HMwiii> soundray: ah i think its cause its been loaded or somthing
[07:24] <HMwiii> all good
[07:24] <M06w> perminint permissions
[07:24] <M06w> so i dont have to use the terminal to move a damn file
[07:25] <VisezTrance> some help please.. lspci show up with nothing. the bios 'sees' the card just fine
[07:25] <Terminus> M06w: gksudo nautilus
[07:25] <soundray> M06w: watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:25] <frfx> Terminus: ok i am forwarding another port
[07:26] <jbroome> BDerwent: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:26] <RetLaw> soundray: "No packages found matching dhcpcd"
[07:26] <Terminus> frfx: don't forget to change the listen port of apache and restart it too. :)
[07:26] <rixxon> what is "http cache cleaner"?
[07:26] <bluefox83> is there something in ubuntu that will help me overclock my proc?
[07:26] <frfx> Terminus: already did that ;)
[07:27] <Terminus> frfx: 14354 should be a good port for testing. AFAIK, only teamspeak uses it. :)
[07:27] <soundray> RetLaw: that's not what I expected, but it's definitely not installed then.
[07:27] <dragonkh> hello
[07:27] <BDerwent> jbroome: thank you very much
[07:27] <jbroome> np
[07:27] <PurpleTen> i have a problem with samba
[07:28] <RetLaw> soundray: i assume i don't need to go to a dire to issue the command ?
[07:28] <dragonkh> where do I go for chatting about xgl and ubuntu?
[07:28] <rsk> #ubuntu-xgl
[07:28] <soundray> RetLaw: no
[07:28] <Terminus> ok, here's a question. ALT+F2 doesn't show me the run dialog here, can anybody tell me why?
[07:28] <frfx> Terminus: i have the port 12345 if it isnt't a problem..
[07:28] <dragonkh> thanks
[07:28] <Terminus> frfx: guess it shouldn't be a problem.
[07:28] <PurpleTen> ive shared a folder in ubuntu, but when i try to browse it from window it keeps asking me for the username +password
[07:28] <RetLaw> soundray: can i check something for dns ?
[07:28] <Terminus> frfx: ok, your isp is blocking port 80. 12345 worked.
[07:29] <frfx> Terminus: does it work? really? what do you see?
[07:29] <Terminus> frfx: it says <h1>test</h1> =)
[07:29] <ENE|Toxic> How can I get echo to interpret rowbreaks ? var=`cat /file.txt`; echo $var > new_file.txt .... like this new_file.txt is just one long line ..
[07:29] <PurpleTen> ive shared a folder in ubuntu, but when i try to browse it from window it keeps asking me for the username +password
[07:30] <frfx> Terminus: whiii thanks a lot man. you are the best ;) fucking isp
[07:30] <piclez> hi, could someone point me a guide or tutorial how to make my Ubuntu access my WIndows network, I've tried some but no sucess
[07:30] <Terminus> frfx: you're welcome. switch to another ISP. =)
[07:30] <ompaul> !langauge
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about langauge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <ompaul> !language
[07:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:30] <soundray> RetLaw: bind
[07:30] <jbroome> PurpleTen: need to smbuseradd your user
[07:30] <PurpleTen> ohk
[07:30] <frfx> Terminus: i want but we have a contract for 1 year :s
[07:30] <Paddy_EIRE> how do i resume a download in bittorrent after i stop it and turn of the machine....there is no icon nor does it resume the file it starts over
[07:30] <bluefox83> i just installed nvclock-gtk and now i can't find it in any menus, where the heck did it go?
[07:31] <soundray> RetLaw: 'dpkg -l bind'
[07:31] <frfx> Terminus: and my parents choose the isp so :s
[07:31] <Terminus> frfx: meh... next time, you should choose your ISP more carefully.
[07:31] <jbroome> Paddy_EIRE: if the file is in the same place, it will auto-resume
[07:31] <pp> If I'm building a kernel with "AUTOBUILD=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs" but I get a fatal error, how do I clean everthing up so I can try again?  Is "make clean" enough???
[07:31] <mandeep> sup
[07:31] <Paddy_EIRE> ok cheers man
[07:31] <piclez> jbroome: is there a way to list smbusers? I've added a user my still can't access from Windows
[07:31] <tkup> is there a severe bug in Ubuntu's LVM?
[07:31] <Paddy_EIRE> how do i launch it then
[07:31] <PurpleTen> jbroome: where do i do that?
[07:32] <tkup> I can't get to create a VG under ubuntu but I was able to do so under other distros
[07:32] <RetLaw> soundray: no results for bind .... but I didn't connect the machine to my LAN, otherwise I can't IRC anymore.
[07:32] <frfx> Terminus: but it is pretty dumb to say to my friends (who doesnt know a lot about computers) visit "myip":12345
[07:32] <ninn> grml .-.. cant ./configure the svgalib-sources ....
[07:32] <piclez> PurpleTen: do in shell mode
[07:32] <bjames> hi all, just a quick one - when using kdevelop how do you enable the autocomplete??  My autocomplete doesn't seem to find any methods from any of the base classes, only the current object derivation
[07:32] <piclez> or console
[07:32] <soundray> RetLaw: I think it's safe to assume that neither is installed.
[07:32] <ninn> rsk, still there?
[07:32] <soundray> RetLaw: that leaves the question how to debug your problem.
[07:32] <frfx> Terminus: is there no workaround or something? or maybe i can get a no-ip?
[07:32] <johnnyg> greetings, I'm trying to add a printer via the CUPs web admin. It has my drivers and everything but is htaccess asking me for a user and password. I never set them...what are they?
[07:33] <RetLaw> soundray: but why other machine get in trouble then as soon the Ubuntu is connected ?
[07:33] <Terminus> frfx: get a web forwarding ip. that way, you can make foo.com go to bar.com:12345
[07:33] <Russel> hiho
[07:33] <PurpleTen> !smb
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <Terminus> s/ip/domain/
[07:33] <PurpleTen> !samba
[07:33] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:33] <soundray> RetLaw: it's a strange problem. Let me think about it...
 how would i launch bittorent then as it has no icon
[07:34] <RetLaw> sure :-)
[07:34] <frfx> Terminus: do you know where i can get that?
[07:34] <Thunderpants> Paddy_EIRE, click on a .torrent
[07:34] <StoneColdSteve> hi
[07:34] <PurpleTen> !lamp
[07:34] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:34] <Thunderpants> it will say open with and have bittorrent there
[07:34] <Paddy_EIRE> resuming a paused download
[07:34] <bjames> does anyone use kdevelop???
[07:34] <RetLaw> soundray : I also had that with an ubuntu 5.0x, but didn't go into it because no time
[07:34] <soundray> RetLaw: is it possible that you have a broken network interface?
[07:35] <soundray> RetLaw: I mean, a hardware fault?
[07:35] <TabascoEye> can anyone help me getting an epson epl5900l to run?
[07:35] <RetLaw> soundray : could that influence other pc's ?
[07:35] <Russel> is there a maintainer for the vpnc package in dapper?
[07:36] <soundray> RetLaw: it's the only thing I can think of that could wreak such havoc
[07:36] <Terminus> frfx: AFAIK, you're gonna have to pay for a domain and make sure that you pick a registrar that has a webforwarding service.
[07:36] <soundray> RetLaw: would that be something you can check? Use another NIC or so?
[07:36] <phanerothyme11> what is libc?
[07:36] <RetLaw> soundray: can I actively bind another eth ?
[07:36] <TabascoEye> anyone?
[07:37] <Terminus> would anybody know why ALT+F2 doesn't give me a run dialog? keybindings says it's set to ALT+F2
[07:37] <soulrider> hi everyone
[07:37] <soulrider> can someone help me? i cant mount or open my USB drive
[07:37] <soundray> TabascoEye: http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-EPL-5900L
[07:37] <soundray> RetLaw: I don't know what you mean...
[07:38] <soundray> TabascoEye: it seems that you need a driver for your printer that doesn't come with ubuntu. See the page above
[07:38] <RetLaw> soundray: use another NIC (already build-in) without re-installing
[07:38] <TabascoEye> soundray: yes, I am capable of using google. and the sourceforge driver doesn't work for me
[07:38] <frfx> Terminus: or i can register a free webpage and refresh that to my server..but again thanks a lot.now i am going to test some things :)
[07:39] <fishy> For some reason, my friend is seeing my website in another language - http://www.noenemies.com/folio/ - Any reason why this would happen? She's using Ubuntu.
[07:39] <Terminus> frfx: i don't really know of anybody that offers a free webforwarding service. you can always google. :)
[07:39] <soundray> RetLaw: if Linux has activated both, the second NIC should be available as eth1
[07:39] <illvarg> hello! is there something broken with 6.06.1? I can't get fglrx to work.
[07:39] <TabascoEye> fishy: Could be because she is in another IP space (or country) and the website filters its content depending on that
[07:39] <RetLaw> soundray: i'll give it a try
[07:39] <TabascoEye> google is a good example for that
[07:39] <PurpleTen> ewww.. im soo lost wit this samba
[07:39] <ninn> anyone installed ADVANCEMAME in Ubuntu already?
[07:40] <frfx> Terminus: no but something like geocities or freemegs?with a refresh of that page to my server
[07:40] <Bobby> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[07:40] <HellDragon> :(
[07:40] <fishy> TabascoEye: She lives in the same neighborhood as myself.
[07:40] <Terminus> frfx: hmmm... why not? :)
[07:40] <wthww> wow
[07:40] <HellDragon> wtf jst happened
[07:40] <bjames> hi all
[07:40] <Terminus> frfx: you can always try. (:
[07:40] <fishy> What was that?
[07:40] <wthww> mass splitting?
[07:40] <HellDragon> brown died
[07:40] <HellDragon> mabe
[07:40] <cowmilk> how do i know if i have java on my computer (for web browsing)?|
[07:40] <Megaqwerty> it's "/part"
[07:40] <HellDragon> maybe
[07:40] <HellDragon> MeGaQuArK_: yeah typo
[07:40] <Terminus> fishy: Bobby sent a dcc exploit.
[07:41] <HellDragon> hum
[07:41] <wthww> i dont see any rpeat ips... so idunno
[07:41] <bjames> I have a question about kdevelop - I've only just started using it to write wxWidgets pps and I can't seem to enable autocomplete for derived class methods
[07:41] <bjames> anyone know what to do?
[07:41] <TabascoEye> fishy: sounds strange...
[07:41] <bjames> apps*
[07:41] <frfx> Terminus: no i know it works..look i register a free website and put in the html this : <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;url=http://myserver">
[07:42] <fishy> TabascoEye: Turns out she was on the wrong URL, and was viewing dummy latin content that she didn't recognize. :D
[07:42] <Megaqwerty> My friend is trying to set up a server and I was wondering if ubuntu's server could act as a FTP/HTTP/POP3/IMAP/SMTP/DNS/DHCP server
[07:42] <TabascoEye> fishy: rofl
[07:42] <Terminus> frfx: yeah, that's what i said. you can try it. :)
[07:42] <bjames> does anyone know how to enable autocomplete for all methods?
[07:42] <TabascoEye> lorem ipsum.....
[07:42] <frfx> Terminus: ok :) thanks for your help. bye
[07:42] <Terminus> Megaqwerty: yes, it can act as a server for all of those.
[07:42] <Terminus> frfx: np. :)
[07:43] <Megaqwerty> Terminus: Thanks, is it as easy to set up as the regular ubuntu 6.06 is?
[07:43] <fishy> TabascoEye: "It looks like some sort of English Arabic..." :D "What're the first few words?" "Lorem ipsum" :D
[07:43] <zzeus> rre
[07:43] <Terminus> Megaqwerty: well, you'll certainly need to edit config files, so i guess the answer is no.
[07:43] <bjames> does anyone use kdevelop??
[07:44] <zzeus> how to sync time using only console?
[07:44] <Terminus> Megaqwerty: nobody bothered to write a GUI frontend for server configuration. =P
[07:44] <Megaqwerty> Terminus: is it easier than FC5? Because he is really frustrated trying to do it with that.
[07:44] <Masqy> a question regarding apt-get usage: when I use synaptic, it always tells me how much MB will the new packages use on my hard drive, how do I get the same effect with apt-get?
[07:45] <soundray> zzeus: 'sudo apt-get install ntpdate ; /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate'
[07:45] <Terminus> Megaqwerty: it would probably be the same process. all of those servers are configured pretty much the same way no matter what *nix distro you're using. through text files.
[07:45] <bbrazil> Masqy: apt-get also just gives that info iirc
[07:45] <Megaqwerty> Masqy: I think it says it before you say "y/n"
[07:45] <orbin> Masqy: apt-cache show <package>
[07:45] <Gnonthgol> Anyone got Blender to work in Dapper?
[07:45] <gour> what's the last version of evms for ubuntu (i'm installing atm from livecd) ?
[07:46] <fishy> I have, Gnonthgol.
[07:46] <Terminus> Gnonthgol: i have it working. :)
[07:46] <orbin> Gnonthgol: sure...just grab it from the repos
[07:46] <Megaqwerty> me too
[07:46] <Megaqwerty> I needed to install XGL
[07:46] <Megaqwerty> to be able to see it that is
[07:46] <orbin> gour: packages.ubuntu.com
[07:46] <Masqy> ok.. 10x, I was using the -s (simulation option) in which apt-get does not report those stuff..
[07:46] <Megaqwerty> Terminus: Oh, ok but is there any difference once it is setup?
[07:46] <Gnonthgol> Thing is that I got a bug
[07:46] <orbin> gour: Version: 2.5.4-5ubuntu6
[07:47] <usam1> hi all
[07:47] <gour> orbin: too old :-(
[07:47] <Masqy> and an ubuntu question: suppose I install xubuntu-desktop package, how do I unistall it afterwards if I'd like to?
[07:47] <gour> anywhere 2.5.5 ?
[07:47] <Terminus> Megaqwerty: nope. they all work the same way. it's just a matter of choice on which smtp server to use, which pop3 server, etc.
[07:48] <Megaqwerty> Terminus: are there tutorials you could link me to for them? To ease my friend's set up?
[07:48] <usam1> is it possible in ubuntu that when i points my mouse to any file, after some time (say 10 or 20 seconds) the file get automatically selected?
[07:48] <farous> kartik: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:48] <kartik> farous, ?
[07:48] <Masqy> As far as I understood, when I uninstall the meta package, it doesn't uninstall the rest?
[07:48] <farous> worng message sorry
[07:48] <Terminus> Megaqwerty: hmmm... not really. i can recommend books though. although it's not linux, the process is almost the same. absolute bsd walks you through all of the stuff you wanted to configure.
[07:48] <Megaqwerty> usam1: out of curiosity, why?
[07:49] <orbin> gour: probably have to install from source then... use apt-get build-dep and checkinstall
[07:49] <kartik> farous, :-) np
[07:49] <Megaqwerty> Terminus: thanks
[07:49] <Bogie> how big of a hassile is it to switch to kde
[07:49] <skroll> i've been hearing alot about aiglx+compiz, and xgl+compiz, but what's the report on either aiglx or xgl running without any of the fancy composition effects?  faster/slower?
[07:49] <farous> :)
[07:49] <gour> orbin: thanks
[07:49] <Terminus> Megaqwerty: it's $25 at amazon and it's a good read. good luck. :)
[07:49] <usam1> Megaqwerty: just wanna make my life more and more easy :)
[07:49] <Gnonthgol> Bogie: just install the kubuntu packages
[07:49] <Bogie> can i do that with synaptic
[07:50] <Gnonthgol> yes
[07:50] <Terminus> Bogie: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop should be all you need to do. :)
[07:50] <ThomasI> How do i install the server using the netboot images booted by grub?
[07:50] <usam1> Megaqwerty: do you any any idea?
[07:50] <Megaqwerty> usam1: but after 10 seconds? it would be faster just to click
[07:50] <Megaqwerty> usam1: no, sorry I don't.
[07:50] <Megaqwerty> I was just curious
[07:50] <eugman> I want to sort the result of a deborphan -s alphabetically based on the second column. How cna I do that?
[07:50] <usam1> Megaqwerty: ok
[07:51] <ThomasI> I tried
[07:51] <ThomasI> kernel (hd0,0)/boot/linux server vga=normal ramdisk_size=14972 root=/dev/rd/0 rw --
[07:51] <Phaqui> how can I launch my ventrilo server "in the background" (is it called "daemon"?) ?
[07:51] <ThomasI> doesnt seem to work
[07:51] <sivik> ok, i have a new dvd and can't get it to work in ubuntu, how do i fix it
[07:51] <soundray> usam1: I don't think metacity (default gnome wm) can be configured like that. You might be more lucky with another window manager.
[07:51] <usam1> soundray: i think google can helpl me!
[07:51] <soundray> usam1: it may be possible in kde. Check out the package kdeaccessibility
[07:52] <usam1> soundray: yeah i know that kde can do but i am looking that thing in gnome
[07:53] <orbin> sivik: what app?
[07:53] <robert_> blah
[07:54] <Bogie> what is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[07:54] <teicah> k? j/k
[07:54] <Bogie> just hte window system?
[07:54] <soundray> !tell Bogie about kubuntu
[07:54] <jordanau> Bogie, kubuntu uses kde ubuntu uses gnome
[07:54] <orbin> !kubuntu > Bogie
[07:54] <Terminus> Bogie: ubuntu uses gnome by default, kubuntu uses kde by default. underneath it's all the same though.
[07:54] <orbin> Bogie: yes
[07:54] <RetLaw> soundray: the network-card which was in use is working, I can ping from ubuntu to all other lan-machines
[07:55] <soundray> RetLaw: did configuring eth1 instead make a difference to the problem?
[07:55] <jordanau> Bogie, also you have either gnome apps or kde apps that come packaged with the window system
[07:55] <Phaqui> guys, how can I launch an application "in the background"?
[07:55] <MZM> UncleD: finished move to raid1?
[07:55] <skroll> i've been hearing alot about aiglx+compiz, and xgl+compiz, but what's the report on either aiglx or xgl running without any of the fancy composition effects?  faster/slower?
[07:55] <Phaqui> like, if I do ./ventrilo_srv it opens in the same terminal
[07:55] <ag0ny> Phaqui: command &
[07:55] <Terminus> Phaqui: foo &
[07:56] <Phaqui> oh
[07:56] <Phaqui> hmm
[07:57] <Phaqui> and how would I now close it? ^
[07:57] <Phaqui> ^^
[07:57] <edju> Trying for three days to set up wireless.  Cannot find WG511ICB.inf - got the sys file.  Anybody know how to get it?  Cannot find it on W2K.
[07:57] <soundray> Phaqui: 'fg', then you can Ctrl-C it
[07:57] <joao3> hey
[07:57] <soundray> Phaqui: or use 'killall ventrilo-srv' or whatever that name was
[07:57] <joao3> i have a very strange situation here with 6.06.1 fully updated
[07:57] <Phaqui> ah, okay
[07:57] <jordanau> Phaqui, ctrl-z backgrounds it
[07:58] <Bogie> whats the difference between gdm and kdm
[07:58] <jordanau> Bogie, gdm gnome kdm kde
[07:58] <joao3> "sudo netstat -tpln" shows that lots of gnome apps are listening on some tcp port
[07:58] <Bogie> k
[07:58] <Phaqui> but now that I used & to start it in the background, it still prints information
[07:58] <joao3> anyone sees the same thing with netstat?
[07:59] <RetLaw> soundray: the other one isn't work at all (no ping) probably it needs more configuration
[07:59] <soundray> Phaqui: to redirect the output to a file, do './ventrilo_srv >ventrilo.log 2>ventrilo.err &'
[07:59] <Phaqui> oh, neat, thanks
[07:59] <Terminus> John3437: nope. nothing from gnome that's listening here.
[08:00] <Terminus> joao3 i mean. >_<
[08:00] <soundray> RetLaw: you could just do "/etc/init.d/networking stop" go through /etc/network/interfaces, replace all eth0 with eth1, and start networking again
[08:00] <joao3> Terminus: check output of netstat here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20575
[08:00] <finalbeta> Any of you guys ever have this bug? Had it like 15 times in a few weeks "every now and then when changing wind state (maximize/minimize) or open dialogs all my winodws dissipear from the taskbar. The apps still run, I hear sound from my tv card, but the window itself doesn't show anymore
[08:01] <ragzoobken> I installed different ati drivers using # https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-5ead174a0b3294527486cd4d71ded66b40003f25 #, can someone help me switch back to the original (OSS or something) drivers?
[08:01] <soundray> finalbeta: have you switched workspaces by accident?
[08:01] <finalbeta> soundray, no ;)
[08:01] <afief> Is there a way to have the packages that a program is trying to send through my LAN connection be sent through the internet connection instead?
[08:02] <Terminus> joao3: weird. i don't get any of the gnome stuff here. all i have are the default daemons and the ones i configured specifically.
[08:02] <soundray> finalbeta: sorry, needed to ask the obvious ;)
[08:02] <finalbeta> soundray, did check tho. I need to close the windows thru task manager and restart them :/
[08:02] <joao3> Terminus: i'm no newbie here but i have no clue why is this happening
[08:02] <HMwiii> can some one tell me when i install a module from apt and it is listed here:  /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/usb/net/zd1211/zd1211.ko
[08:03] <HMwiii> could i give zd1211.ko to frenid in that same dir?
[08:03] <soundray> ninn: there, there... everything will be all right again
[08:03] <HMwiii> and would i work
[08:03] <jordanau> joao3, no gnome here
[08:03] <RetLaw> soundray: I need to reboot my router and ipcop (to stop the problem) now before i can go on. The I'll try with a life-knoppix to see what happens. If you're stiil there by then, i'll let you kno, thanks for helping
[08:03] <HMwiii> or would he have to go thur apt
[08:03] <Terminus> joao3: i have absolutely no idea either... sorry.
[08:03] <soundray> HMwiii: only if your friend runs the exact same kernel
[08:04] <HMwiii> soundray: ah yes
[08:04] <robert_> I don't get any video in kaffeine, and it says A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: (divxc32.dll | wmvmod.dll )", and it won't show any video when playing windows media stuff
[08:04] <soundray> RetLaw: okay, good luck
[08:05] <HMwiii> soundray: so if we had the same motherbord and just installed 6.06.1 and had not changed anything from the out of the box state
[08:05] <HMwiii> I could just give him zd1211.ko?
[08:05] <soundray> HMwiii: then the modules will likely be identical
[08:06] <soundray> HMwiii: I can't see why not
[08:06] <MZM> anyone using laptop with i855 video?
[08:06] <wthww> hmwiii: that driver for zyday chipsedts is finicky :|
[08:07] <HMwiii> soundray: i just wanted to make shure that there's no other coponent that i need to copy with zd1211.ko
[08:07] <HMwiii> wthww: yeah!
[08:07] <kyja> well figured out my resolution trouble =] 
[08:08] <HMwiii> wthww: the 6.06.1 cd i just got still dosen't have it working
[08:08] <soundray> kyja: let me guess: you put on your glasses?
[08:08] <soundray> kyja: scnr
[08:08] <HMwiii> wthww: have any custom compile solutions?
[08:08] <HMwiii> wthww: I have tryd all the dam wikis
[08:08] <kyja> lol
[08:08] <wthww> HMwiii:lol, i gave up, dapper just hates it
[08:09] <Toma-> HMwiii: what are you trying to do?
[08:09] <HMwiii> see
[08:09] <wthww> HMwiii:on your drivercd, is the zyda company version there?
[08:10] <HMwiii> wthww: yeah
[08:10] <prasanna> hi all can anybody tell me how ti install drapper drake from text mode installation
[08:10] <rsk> prasanna: read the install manual
[08:11] <Warbo> prasanna: As in, how to get the text CD, or as in how to use it?
[08:11] <HMwiii> prasanna: click install
[08:11] <prasanna>  hi all can anybody tell me how ti install drapper drake from text mode installatio
[08:11] <Warbo> HMwiii: Click? In text mode?
[08:11] <wthww> HMwiii: atleast i got that one to compile without errors :P
[08:11] <HMwiii> lol
[08:11] <Warbo> !repeat > prasanna
[08:11] <HMwiii> well click the enter key
[08:12] <Warbo> prasanna: I will help you if you answer my above question
[08:12] <wthww> naliothL why all the bans?
[08:12] <prasanna>  hi all can anybody tell me how to install drapper drake from text mode installatio
[08:12] <Warbo> prasanna: Lokk at the replies you are getting!
[08:12] <wthww> *Nalioth
[08:12] <Warbo> *look
[08:12] <datacrusher> hi people
[08:13] <nalioth> wthww: join me in #ubuntu-ops please
[08:13] <finalbeta> Any of you guys ever have this bug? Had it like 15 times in a few weeks "every now and then when changing wind state (maximize/minimize) or open dialogs all my winodws dissipear from the taskbar. The apps still run, I hear sound from my tv card, but the window itself doesn't show anymore << I want to file a bug, what package would this be in?
[08:13] <hans_> !backup
[08:13] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[08:13] <HMwiii> prasanna: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06.1/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[08:13] <Warbo> finalbeta: Sounds like a Metacity bug (Metacity is GNOME's default Window Manager)
[08:13] <HMwiii> thats the text mode cd
[08:14] <prasanna> i cannot understand
[08:14] <Warbo> prasanna: Do you have the text-mode CD?
[08:14] <prasanna> i have cd of 6.06 but i cannot upgrade it from 5.10
[08:15] <Warbo> !upgrade
[08:15] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[08:15] <prasanna> is it possible to install it frm the cd which i got from shipit
[08:15] <lucox> how should i the simpliest way make my "fan" working (by frequency scaling) ... as i installed linux-686 package there is in kernel only 686 not the pentium M used : and i think there is the point .. how should i change that ...
[08:15] <Warbo> prasanna: ShipIt CDs do not have a text mode
[08:15] <HMwiii> wthww: what dongal do u use?
[08:15] <HMwiii> or do u not
[08:16] <Warbo> prasanna: HMwiii put a link to the text-mode CD above
[08:16] <wthww> HMwiii:i use the Gigafast
[08:16] <wthww> usb
[08:16] <neutrinomass> finalbeta: Not sure what can cause that... just file it without a package and assign the Ubuntu Desktop team ...
[08:17] <prasanna> then wats the alternative for this
[08:17] <prasanna> iam eager to use 6.06
[08:17] <HMwiii> wthww: what chipset / module / brand i mean
[08:17] <HMwiii> wthww: soory my bad see your coment
[08:17] <Warbo> prasanna: You cn either follow the instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades or get the text-mode CD from here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06.1/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[08:17] <id10t> 'lo all...
[08:17] <prasanna> AMD sempron2400  128 Mb RAM
[08:18] <id10t> anyone using VLC to broadcast to a Darwin Streaming Server by any chance?
[08:18] <wthww> HMwiii:Gigafast zd1211u
[08:18] <HMwiii> wthww: is that out of the box or some config?
[08:18] <HMwiii> as far as seeing under iwconfig
[08:19] <HMwiii> or ifconfig
[08:19] <prasanna> any one ther to solve my issue
[08:19] <prasanna> hi
[08:19] <azureal> lol, ic nalioth is done banning
[08:19] <Warbo> prasanna: Are you seeing any of the answers that people have given you?
[08:20] <prasanna> yes
[08:20] <joao3> Terminus: i think i found why is this happening
[08:20] <cowmilk> help. i have just installed java and java-plugin, but my browser Opera can't use it
[08:20] <wthww> HMwiii:actually, the kernel modules NEVER worked for me. ndis didnt either, but with the xp drivers it sees the hardware, and adds sit0 to my list in ifconfig, not iwconfig
[08:20] <cowmilk> how can i enable java for my opera browser?
[08:20] <prasanna> i have asked then wat the alternative
[08:20] <farous> cowmilk: you have to config opera to do so
[08:20] <cowmilk> farous: how?
[08:21] <HMwiii> prasanna: the CD from ship it does not have text mode NO TEXT MODE but you can download it http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06.1/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[08:21] <azureal> lol
[08:21] <Warbo> prasanna: To upgrade from Breezy to Dapper (5.10 to 6.06) you can follow this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[08:21] <farous> tools>preferences>advanced>content>javaoptions
[08:22] <prasanna> how long it would take
[08:22] <farous> cowmilk: then give it the path to java
[08:22] <prasanna> to down load all
[08:22] <Warbo> prasanna: Depends on how much you have installed. Mine took ages since I have loads of GBs of stuff
[08:22] <cowmilk> farous: i see. how do i know the correct path  to java?
[08:22] <farous> cowmilk: there is a test path icon use it
[08:23] <HMwiii> prasanna:        if http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06.1/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso is to slow find the same file here:   http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[08:23] <cowmilk> farous: what do you mean "test path icon"?
[08:23] <farous> cowmilk: validate java path
[08:23] <prasanna> how cud i burn the iso image file here
[08:23] <farous> cowmilk: did you install sun java from the repos?
[08:23] <Warbo> !burn
[08:23] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[08:23] <cowmilk> farous: yes
[08:24] <soundray> cowmilk: try 'which java' in a terminal window
[08:24] <farous> cowmilk: here is it then /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.07/jre/lib/i386/
[08:24] <cowmilk> soundray thank. I got "/usr/bin/java"
[08:24] <soundray> cowmilk: oh, that won't help
[08:24] <cowmilk> farous: when i did "which java" i got http://www.targus.com/ca/support.asp
[08:24] <cowmilk> i got /usr/bin/java
[08:25] <cowmilk> soundray: why won't that help
[08:25] <soundray> cowmilk: try '/usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/' and validate
[08:25] <farous> cowmilk: that is a symbolic link to the real java you use
[08:25] <cowmilk> farous: ok. so shall i put t /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.07/jre/lib/i386/ into the path in opera?
[08:25] <farous> cowmilk: i gave you the link try it and validate it
[08:25] <cowmilk> ok
[08:25] <sivik> need help getting dvd to run
[08:26] <Warbo> !dvd
[08:26] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:26] <gerhard> hi
[08:26] <sivik> Warbo: already did those
[08:26] <prasanna> does the iso image has textmode intallation
[08:26] <Warbo> sivik: Ah
[08:26] <cowmilk> farous: validation failed
[08:26] <Warbo> prasanna: The "alternate" one, which those links point to, does. The ones from ShipIt don't
[08:26] <gerhard> I just formatted a Truecrypt partition, now I want to mount it. its at /media/hda4. how do I do that?
[08:26] <farous> cowmilk: which java package you installed
[08:27] <HMwiii> wthww: are u using ms xp drivers under linux?
[08:27] <cowmilk> farous: i installed sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[08:27] <HMwiii> wraped?
[08:27] <prasanna> wat
[08:27] <sivik> Warbo: is there something else i could try
[08:27] <gerhard> I just formatted a Truecrypt partition, now I want to mount it. its at /media/hda4. how do I do that?
[08:27] <farous> cowmilk: so you have to search where they are installed. i gave you where mine is installed
[08:27] <prasanna> thax 4 ur sugesion
[08:28] <cowmilk> farous: how do i search?
[08:28] <Warbo> sivik: If you have the css packages installed then it would probably be something to do with the player. I find ogle-gui is the most reliable
[08:28] <datacrusher> hey people, i just installed ubuntu for a few days, and when i got all video and audio working , there was a breakout
[08:28] <HMwiii> prasanna: is you first langage english? if i may ask?
[08:28] <sivik> Warbo: i will try ogle-gui again
[08:28] <Ackeubu_> is there a adsl speed tester for ubuntu?
[08:28] <datacrusher> and since them the x server dont go up anymore
[08:28] <datacrusher> iv tryed the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:28] <jordanau> !mount > gerhard
[08:29] <farous> look under /usr/lib/jvm/
[08:29] <datacrusher> and tryed nv, vesa, vga... many drivers, but all of them when i cal the startx
[08:29] <farous> for a dir sunjava
[08:29] <gerhard> !GParted
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about GParted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <Warbo> sivik: Again? Oh
[08:29] <gerhard> thanks
[08:29] <gerhard> !GParted
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about GParted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <Warbo> !gparted > gerhard
[08:29] <datacrusher> the same error, saying that no drivers wer found
[08:30] <datacrusher> can anyone help me? i dont wanna format the pc
[08:30] <gerhard> yes, I was using that prog, but the drive is not shown now
[08:30] <datacrusher> theres some files i need on the home folder...
[08:30] <soundray> datacrusher: can you restore your original /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then try startx again and check 'tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[08:30] <gerhard> do I have to restart?
[08:31] <Warbo> GParted is pretty limited when it comes to fancy filesystems/partitioning
[08:31] <sivik> Warbo: i have the newest version of libdvdcss
[08:31] <cowmilk> farous: i've found /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/jre/lib but which subfolder should  i go to?
[08:31] <datacrusher> iv restored it, the errors its like theres no drivers, for video, mouse, keyb and monitor
[08:31] <datacrusher> even changing them the log file says i that error
[08:31] <datacrusher> where can i paste it?
[08:31] <farous> cowmilk: put that in opera and it will guide you
[08:31] <Warbo> sivik: If you have tried the Wiki's suggestions then I wouldn't know what else to suggest, sorry :(
[08:31] <HMwiii> wthww: sory but im rather interested are u using windows driver under linux?
[08:31] <yahoo> .
[08:31] <yahoo> .
[08:31] <yahoo> .
[08:31] <yahoo> .
[08:31] <yahoo> .
[08:31] <yahoo> .
[08:31] <LoRez> Warning: `yahoo' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[08:31] <yahoo> .
[08:31] <yahoo> :))
[08:31] <soundray> !pastebin >datacrusher
[08:31] <sivik> Warbo: ok, well, i was kinda hoping someone in here could help me
[08:31] <yahoo> lorez :P
[08:32] <sivik> Warbo: its a new dics, v for vendatta
[08:32] <bburns> Hello, I am trying to run a .sh file by doing ./file.sh but when i hit enter, nothing happens
[08:32] <bburns> it just hangs
[08:32] <bburns> can anyone help me
[08:32] <cowmilk> farous: thank you very much!!!!!!!!
[08:32] <Kyral_Laptop> bburns: sounds like a problem with the script
[08:32] <farous> :)
[08:33] <HMwiii> bburns: theres another way
[08:33] <Warbo> bburns: Maybe try "sh file.sh" or, if it is an installer it may need root permission so maybe "sudo sh file.sh"
[08:33] <HMwiii> um
[08:33] <soundray> datacrusher: did you say this problem began after a power failure?
[08:33] <HMwiii> sh file.sh
[08:33] <HMwiii> or somthing
[08:34] <datacrusher> yes
[08:34] <datacrusher> i cant mount the floppy
[08:34] <datacrusher> the error says: "couldnt load module, module dont exists"
[08:34] <yahoo> how can i enable writing on an ntfs partition ? :D
[08:34] <Warbo> !fuse
[08:34] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:34] <Jack_Sparrow> yahoo: not advised
[08:34] <soundray> datacrusher: if it was my system, I would back up all data files and do a fresh installation.
[08:34] <sivik> Warbo: i'm going to try and rip the dvd
[08:34] <datacrusher> hm
[08:35] <datacrusher> i was thinking of that
[08:35] <yahoo> not advised to write on an ntfs ?
[08:35] <Warbo> sivik: You'd better not be in the US, it's illegal there isn't it? :)
[08:35] <datacrusher> but i kinda have doubts about how to backup the files
[08:35] <Jack_Sparrow> yahoo: not really
[08:35] <datacrusher> we got 3 cpters here
[08:35] <datacrusher> 2 windows xp
[08:35] <sivik> Warbo: only if you get caught, and its my disc
[08:35] <datacrusher> and that one with ubuntu
[08:35] <sivik> Warbo: its a backup
[08:35] <farous> i think attitude factoid should be included in the topic :(
[08:35] <Warbo> sivik: That's OK then
[08:35] <verix> which program controls DNS resolving in Dapper?
[08:35] <cowmilk> farous: the check mark on "enable java" sitcks now, but no java page works
[08:35] <datacrusher> since i can only go on the terminal, how do mount a network folder to copy the files?
[08:35] <bburns> Warbo, it still just hangs
[08:36] <yahoo> ext 2 , 3 or reiser .. ? which are adviced to use on linux .. ? :-/
[08:36] <datacrusher> before all, thanks for the attention!
[08:36] <farous> cowmilk: close all insta of opera then open it again
[08:36] <Warbo> bburns: Sounds like either a dodgy script, or it depends on something which is dodgy in Ubuntu (although that would be unlikely)
[08:36] <Jack_Sparrow> yahoo: I use fat 32 as a shared partition to pass files from one os to the other.
[08:36] <bburns> Warbo, can I send you the script, it's small.
[08:36] <cowmilk> farous: ok. thy
[08:36] <soundray> datacrusher: boot a live CD, make a .tar for backup and copy it to one of the Windows drives
[08:37] <datacrusher> [soundray] : hm
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> yahoo: You can get a driver to read/write ext2 , 3 from windows
[08:37] <Kyral_Laptop> Jack_Sparrow: its sketchy
[08:37] <Warbo> bburns: Scripts are text, so you can put it in pastebin
[08:37] <datacrusher> do u know the command line to make a .tar for a folder and its content?
[08:37] <yahoo> ok :D
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Kyral_Laptop: what is sketchy
[08:37] <sivik> Warbo: i'm going to try and rip it and see what happens
[08:37] <Kyral_Laptop> datacrusher: tarball a folder?
[08:37] <Kyral_Laptop> datacrusher: easy
[08:37] <Kyral_Laptop> datacrusher: tar -cvf foo.tar folder/
[08:38] <Warbo> sivik: It's a pretty dumb situation if ripping a DVD is easier then playing it :)
[08:38] <Kyral_Laptop> Jack_Sparrow: the ext3/2 driver for XP
[08:38] <yahoo> anyone here has an dvb ... an skystar 2  ? :-/
[08:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Kyral_Laptop: I agreed, I was going to inclusde a warning on that as well.
[08:38] <verix> which program controls DNS resolving in Dapper?
[08:38] <sivik> Warbo: probably, but i have been told that its made with a new encoder
[08:38] <sivik> the dvd has been out for like 2 weeks
[08:38] <datacrusher> thanks!
[08:38] <Kyral_Laptop> Jack_Sparrow: my friend used it, he was digging data out of lost+found for a week
[08:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Kyral_Laptop: Ouch
[08:38] <Kyral_Laptop> datacrusher: man tar for more of the goods on tar
[08:39] <datacrusher> ill try it. tnks
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Kyral_Laptop: tar -help too?
[08:39] <gary[work] > test
[08:39] <Kyral_Laptop> Jack_Sparrow: sure but I just use the manpages
[08:39] <soundray> gary[work] : worked
[08:39] <Elephantium> oi, this is annoying
[08:39] <Kyral_Laptop> hell I even made a tar cheet sheet on my PDA
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> ?
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> OOps
[08:39] <soundray> Kyral_Laptop: hey, it should be cheat sheat
[08:39] <Kyral_Laptop> Jack_Sparrow: man <foo> works :P
[08:40] <soundray> scnr
[08:40] <Kyral_Laptop> soundray: grammer nazi :P
[08:40] <Elephantium> I just installed an Ubuntu server, and I'm trying to update packages
[08:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Time for me to go.. cya later
[08:40] <Elephantium> unfortunately, I'm getting a lot of "temporary failure resolving 'security.ubuntu.com' messages
[08:40] <bburns> Warbo, http://paste.uni.cc/9343
[08:41] <Elephantium> and I'm not really sure how to get past that.
[08:41] <verix> which program controls DNS resolving in Dapper?
[08:41] <soundray> Kyral_Laptop: it's not grammer, you mean grammar. Grammer is gramper's wife.
[08:41] <Kyral_Laptop> ....
[08:41] <Comrade-Sergei> how do you make these wuickstart buttons to work in ubuntu?
[08:41] <POVaddct> verix: no program. the dns resolver is part of the C runtime library.
[08:41] <yahoo> what dc++ for kubuntu x86-64 can be used except DCGUI ?
[08:41] <Warbo> bburns: I don't know much about what the commands are that it is running, but it has a "while" loop, which may be carrying on forever
[08:42] <verix> oh damn. because every once in a while I have to reboot to get the DNS to start working properly again :/
[08:42] <MZM> yahoo: you mean DC client?
[08:42] <yahoo> yep
[08:42] <POVaddct> verix: check the contents of /etc/resolv.conf
[08:42] <verix> k
[08:42] <bburns> Warbo, how would I eliminate the while loop?
[08:42] <soundray> Kyral_Laptop: and watch who you're insulting. A lot of fellow Germans would have seriously hurt feelings from such an attack.
[08:42] <ajopaul> !boot > ajopaul
[08:42] <verix> just a search and two nameservers
[08:43] <MZM> yahoo: dcgui, dc++
[08:43] <Kyral_Laptop> soundray: sorry, common internet term
[08:43] <verix> oh it seems to've cleared up now
[08:43] <verix> nevermind
[08:43] <yahoo> or ... why dcgui disconnects the connections so often ... ?
[08:43] <Warbo> bburns: Are you sure you want tO? It may seem like it is "hanging", but it may just be a program which keeps running. To get the terminal back you can run it as "./file.sh &" (but closing the terminal will still stop the command)
[08:44] <datacrusher> soundray
[08:44] <datacrusher> i cant read my files from the live boot
[08:44] <datacrusher> thers a folder called "systemdrive" wich i cant open
[08:44] <Comrade-Sergei> how do you make these wuickstart buttons to work in ubuntu?
[08:45] <soundray> datacrusher: you mean you can't mount the partition?
[08:45] <Elephantium> LOL...I figured it out.  Turns out the ethernet cable was disconnected :(
[08:45] <datacrusher> on the text boot i can read the files
[08:45] <bburns> Warbo, the instructions say to run it as ./file.sh & but when I do that I get: [1]  14732
[08:45] <bburns>  kicked back to me
[08:45] <Warbo> !keyboard > Comrade-Sergei
[08:45] <datacrusher> hm... how do i check if its mouted? dont the live cd mouts it automatically
[08:45] <Warbo> bburns: Exactly
[08:45] <bburns> Warbo, ?
[08:45] <Warbo> bburns: The command is still running in the background, and that is it's process number
[08:45] <Comrade-Sergei> thanks Warbo!
[08:46] <bburns> Warbo, okay
[08:46] <bburns> Warbo, thanks!
[08:46] <yahoo> :))
[08:46] <soundray> datacrusher: no
[08:46] <datacrusher> i have to go to the terminal and "mount /dev/hda0" or theres some way on the graphical interface?
[08:46] <datacrusher> sorry, im pretty newbie on the linux issue
[08:47] <soundray> datacrusher: do it in the terminal -- you'll want to run tar in a terminal anyway.
[08:47] <datacrusher> yeah
[08:47] <soundray> datacrusher: assuming hda1 is the partition you want to mount, the command is 'sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt'
[08:47] <datacrusher> how do i check the drives that exists? the dev folder contains many thins
[08:47] <y0shi> hi, just installed ubuntu, why is my can't I change my screen resolution?
[08:47] <datacrusher> hm..
[08:47] <y0shi> it's 640x480 now.
[08:48] <Warbo> !fixres > y0shi
[08:48] <Backeman> !fixres > Backeman
[08:48] <soundray> datacrusher: 'sudo fdisk -l'
[08:48] <POVaddct> datacrusher: if you just want to know which partitions exist: cat /proc/partitions
[08:48] <y0shi> backeman: thanks.
[08:48] <Backeman> y0shi: It wasn't me, I just wanted to check that out too ;) It was Warbo ;)
[08:48] <yahoo> why doesn't fstab let me save the file ? error cannot write :-\
[08:49] <ajopaul> hi have connected my nokia 6630 thru usb port to dapper, how do I go about sharing files??
[08:49] <datacrusher> ill try it thanks everyone!
[08:49] <Warbo> Backeman: use "/msg ubotu factiod" to get a factiod without posting into the channel
[08:49] <Backeman> Warbo: oh, thanks!
[08:49] <andy2u> (anybody in SF for Linuxworld? wanna do an Ubuntu BOF tonight, DIY style?)
[08:49] <leboff> what kernel is ubuntu on?
[08:50] <Warbo> !info linux-386
[08:50] <ubotu> linux-386: Complete Linux kernel on 386.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[08:50] <asdfjkl> anyone know of a package or script that can upload images to an ftp server automatically?
[08:50] <Comrade-Sergei> Warbo how do you set the music player open one to amarok?
[08:50] <Ayabara> !opera
[08:50] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[08:50] <Warbo> Comrade-Sergei: I dunno, I have never used them :)
[08:50] <Warbo> The command to launch amarok is just "amarok" though
[08:51] <soundray> asdfjkl: you can write a shell script with "expect"
[08:51] <sedrake> Is it possible to "reset" the desktop toolbars, I kinda facked it up and cant get it back as it was before..?
[08:51] <foxjwill> I need help getting my Logitech Quickcam Pro 5000 to work
[08:51] <comtech>  hi, I am trying to use iptables to forward port 3389 to 192.168.0.146 -- what more do I need besides this (NAT is setup and working) -- sudo iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 3389 -i eth0 -j DNAT --to 192.168.0.146:3389
[08:51] <asdfjkl> soundray: can you point me to an example?
[08:51] <soundray> asdfjkl: or use package motion if you want to upload webcam pics
[08:51] <Comrade-Sergei> oh well
[08:51] <soundray> asdfjkl: sec...
[08:51] <asdfjkl> soundray: i am familiar with motion, but can't figure out for the life of me how to set it to upload via FTP if you can help me with that i would really appreciate it
[08:52] <POVaddct> comtech: the -I option needs a position for the rule, like -I PREROUTING 1 ...
[08:52] <Excalicool> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL C:/DOS C:/DOS/RUN C:/DOS/CRASH
[08:52] <Excalicool> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL C:/DOS C:/DOS/RUN C:/DOS/CRASH
[08:52] <T`ch> ssh
[08:52] <yahoo> wtf ?
[08:52] <Jamie> hello.. ive installed unrar-free, and i have an rar archive, r01 - r15, how do I extract them?
[08:52] <foxjwill> Hi, does anyone know anything about the logitech quickcam pro 5000?
[08:53] <Excalicool> JAMIE LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL C:/DOS C:/DOS/RUN C:/DOS/CRASH LOLOLOLOL I CRASHED YOU LOLOLOLOLOL
[08:53] <asdfjkl> foxjwill -- i use quickcam pro 4000
[08:53] <soundray> asdfjkl: first of all, http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/07/28/218250 (expect)
[08:53] <Kyral_Laptop> someone wanna deal with Excalicool
[08:53] <POVaddct> comtech: you can alternatively use -A PREROUTING (will append the rule to the chain)
[08:53] <foxjwill> asdfjkl: do you by chance know how to get the pro 5000 to work?
[08:53] <Excalicool> Kyral_Laptop: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL C:/DOS C:/DOS/RUN C:/DOS/CRASH LOLOLOLOL I CRASHED YOU LOLOLOLOLOL
[08:53] <HellDragon> eek
[08:53] <Kyral_Laptop> ....stupid n00b
[08:54] <ilmari> Jamie: 'unrar e foo.rar' it should pick up the parts automatically
[08:54] <Excalicool> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL C:/DOS C:/DOS/RUN C:/DOS/CRASH LOLOLOLOL I CRASHED YOU LOLOLOLOLOL
[08:54] <Kyral_Laptop> !ops
[08:54] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[08:54] <asdfjkl> foxjwill: the 4000 works perfectly out of the box with the package camorama
[08:54] <LoRez> Excalicool: stfu
[08:54] <Jamie> ilmari: i see.. i will try thank you
[08:54] <comtech> POVaddct: ok so -A will just append it to the end?
[08:54] <POVaddct> comtech: yes
[08:54] <Seveas> DBO to the rescue
[08:54] <soundray> asdfjkl: re. motion: I used it a while back, and I didn't have any trouble... I think I used the manpage to configure it.
[08:54] <Kyral_Laptop> ty DBO
[08:54] <foxjwill> asdfjkl: yeah, but I already have the 5000; I also use xp, and i got the 5000 before i got ubuntu
[08:55] <Jamie> ilmari: unrar-free e isnt a command..
[08:55] <KristianDK> Hmm
[08:55] <KristianDK> Any of you who know ndiswrapper ?
[08:55] <ilmari> Jamie: the command is unrar, not unrar-free
[08:55] <asdfjkl> soundray: i'll look at man...
[08:55] <foxjwill> kritiandk: yes
[08:55] <Luke> My samba share isnt showing up even though its working... any suggestions?
[08:55] <soundray> Hi drbreen_ -- I studied at your Uni
[08:55] <asdfjkl> foxjwill: i understand -- if you look at your system log does it recognize when the device is connected?
[08:55] <foxjwill> KristianDK: yes, i know abit
[08:55] <KristianDK> foxjwill: im having troubles with my wireless card - will it be able to help me ?
[08:55] <POVaddct> ndiswrapper stinks. rather use hardware that is supported by native drivers.
[08:56] <Jamie> ilmari: well ive downloaded & installed something called unrar-free and u use it by typing unrar-free, is there some other rar program then?
[08:56] <Luke> !smb
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <KristianDK> POVaddct: ill just throw my laptop away then ? smartass
[08:56] <Luke> !samba
[08:56] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:56] <foxjwill> kristiandk: I'm not completely sure, but lemme see if i can find the website that has stuff about it
[08:56] <POVaddct> KristianDK: you bought it, you had the choice, didn't you?
[08:56] <Ayabara> anyone here using amarok? how can I make it add .aac files to my library?
[08:57] <KristianDK> foxjwill: thanks a lot :-) It isnt very nice with laptop without wireless network
[08:57] <KristianDK> POVaddct: At the time i bought it, i were runnning Windows (as you can hear, its not a very up2date computer)
[08:57] <ilmari> Jamie: oh, it must have a different syntax than the non-free unrar. check "man unrar"
[08:57] <farous> KristianDK: what is your wireless card. have ndiswrapper on one of laptops here with broadcom
[08:57] <ilmari> Jamie: my point was that you just point it to the .rar file, and it picks up the .rXX parts automatically
[08:58] <POVaddct> KristianDK: okay. which wifi card/chipset is it?
[08:58] <KristianDK> farous: im running broadcom :D BCM4318
[08:58] <datacrusher> so
[08:58] <KristianDK> POVaddct: BCM4318 - broadcom
[08:58] <datacrusher> iv tryed to mount the hda1, wich the fdisk told me its a linux kind partition
[08:58] <farous> KristianDK: you have a choice between opensource bcm43xx and the ndiswrapper
[08:58] <asdfjkl> soundray: does this seem like what I want? netcam_userpass string
[08:58] <asdfjkl>               Values: Max 4095 characters / Default: Not defined
[08:58] <asdfjkl>               For network cameras protected by username and password, use this
[08:58] <asdfjkl>               option  for  HTTP 1.1 Basic authentication. The string is speci
[08:58] <asdfjkl>               fied as username:password. Do not specify  this  option  for  no
[08:58] <asdfjkl>               authentication.
[08:58] <POVaddct> KristianDK: doesn't that one run with the bcm43xx driver?
[08:59] <comtech> POVaddct: http://paste.lisp.org/display/24129  does that look right? it's still not working
[08:59] <datacrusher> and the hda2 its extended
[08:59] <goochy> has anybody used the NTFS drivers yet?
[08:59] <farous> KristianDK: with bcm43xx though the net will be little slower as it only support b type nets
[08:59] <KristianDK> farous, POVaddct: Dont know that one - but its certainly not working now
[08:59] <comtech> KristianDK I have a bcm4306 and the driver works with 2.6.17+
[08:59] <datacrusher> but i cant mount any one
[08:59] <datacrusher> i tryed mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[08:59] <datacrusher> and mount /dev /hda /mnt
[08:59] <sethk> datacrusher, that's not correct
[08:59] <KristianDK> comtech: how do it get it then ?
[08:59] <POVaddct> comtech: you didn't list the nat table
[08:59] <Jamie> could anyone help me unrar a rar archive?
[08:59] <farous> with ndiswrapper most prob encryption will be a prob
[08:59] <datacrusher> the hda says " must tell the type of the partiton"
[08:59] <POVaddct> comtech: iptables -t nat -L -nv
[08:59] <sethk> datacrusher, you have to do this:  mount -t whatever /dev/hda1 /mnt/usually-some-directory
[09:00] <soundray> asdfjkl: please use pastebin if you need to paste more than one line
[09:00] <TheGame> sup
[09:00] <farous> !fwcutter > KristianDK
[09:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fwcutter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:00] <sethk> datacrusher, hda is a drive, so forget about using it in mount
[09:00] <soundray> asdfjkl: but, yes, I think you're on the right track
[09:00] <datacrusher> and the hda1 don say nothing, but the /mnt/hda1 directory doesnt exists
[09:00] <comtech> POVaddct: http://paste.lisp.org/display/24130
[09:00] <pau1> hi
[09:00] <sethk> datacrusher, indeed, it doesn't.  do mkdir /mnt/hda1
[09:00] <datacrusher> how do i do then sethk
[09:00] <KristianDK> farous: ??
[09:00] <sethk> datacrusher, what type of partition is it?
[09:00] <foxjwill> datacrusher: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/DapperGuide#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[09:00] <farous> KristianDK: fwcutter will help you with the bcm43xx driver
[09:00] <datacrusher> linux ext3 i think
[09:00] <pau1> can anybody help mount my second hard drive?
[09:00] <soundray> sethk: let me interject pls
[09:01] <farous> KristianDK: it is already installed and you need the firmware for it
[09:01] <sethk> soundray, ok ...
[09:01] <soundray> datacrusher: are you sure the data you want is on the first partition of hda?
[09:01] <POVaddct> KristianDK: yeah, you need the broadcom firmware for the bcm43xx to run
[09:01] <foxjwill> pau1: what type is it?
[09:01] <POVaddct> comtech: iptables -t nat -L -nv
[09:01] <comtech> KristianDK: just emerge the firmware
[09:01] <POVaddct> comtech: -n (numeric) -v (verbose)
[09:01] <comtech> POVaddct: http://paste.lisp.org/display/24131
[09:01] <farous> comtech: this is not gentoo :)
[09:01] <KristianDK> farous: your speaking another language than me :D
[09:01] <Riaal> How do i get Azureus to ubuntu (breezy)?
[09:02] <farous> !bcm43xx
[09:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:02] <farous> ^  ^
[09:02] <POVaddct> comtech: looks okay
[09:02] <farous> read ubotu link KristianDK
[09:02] <datacrusher> sethk
[09:02] <datacrusher> the problem is the folow
[09:02] <pau1> foxjwill: quantam fireball 4.3gb, I have just installed ubuntu. It shows the disc but does not let me mount it
[09:02] <Jamie> hum... anyone familiur to rar archives in linux?
[09:02] <datacrusher> i have a power outage on a ubuntu install, and the graphical interface stoped working
[09:02] <comtech> POVaddct: weird. nmap sees the port open but I can't make the connection, yet I can via the internal network
[09:02] <datacrusher> i tryed to reconfigure it, but the drivers are gone
[09:03] <comtech> wierd
[09:03] <datacrusher> [soundray] : soundray suggested to reinstall it
[09:03] <foxjwill> asdfjkl: did you mean dmesg?
[09:03] <datacrusher> but i need to bakcup some data that still on the drive
[09:03] <foxjwill> asdfjkl: (sorry it took so long to answer)
[09:03] <POVaddct> comtech: does 192.168.0.146 has your linux box set as its default gateway?
[09:03] <Mic__hael> hello! has anyone ever seen a slow cursor so that typed text gets displayed from right to left? if so, do you have a bug number?
[09:03] <sethk> datacrusher, ok ... continue
[09:04] <datacrusher> so im on the live boot cd, trying to acess my drive, so i can copy the data to another cpter here on our network
[09:04] <POVaddct> comtech: it is necessary to find the route back to the rdp client machine
[09:04] <datacrusher> iv listed fdisk -l and returned me this
[09:04] <datacrusher> hda linux tipe
[09:04] <ajopaul> hi have connected my nokia 6630 thru usb port to dapper, how do I go about sharing files??
[09:04] <datacrusher> hda1 extendet type
[09:04] <datacrusher> and hda5 swap
[09:04] <ajopaul> should I change anything in /etc/fstab ??
[09:04] <datacrusher> both hda and hda1 seens to be the same partition, where theyr size are preety close
[09:04] <sethk> datacrusher, ok, then you don't mount hda1 at all.
[09:04] <comtech> POVaddct: yes, the linux box is the router at 192.168.0.1 and that's the gateway used by the .146 box
[09:05] <sethk> datacrusher, hda is the entire drive.  if hda1 takes up most of the drive, then hda and hda1 will be close
[09:05] <datacrusher> hm.. what i do
[09:05] <datacrusher> makes sense
[09:05] <sethk> datacrusher, what you describe is that the entire disk is used as swap
[09:05] <datacrusher> but how do i acess it? if i cant mount
[09:05] <POVaddct> comtech: ah wait, you have set eth0 as input interface in the rule. is that correct?
[09:05] <datacrusher> no
[09:05] <sethk> datacrusher, you said only two partitions show in fdisk -l, hda1 and hda5
[09:05] <datacrusher> the hda5 partiton gots 512mb and its swap type
[09:05] <der0b> is there some place I can feed the samba client the address of a wins server?
[09:05] <datacrusher> the hda1 its the biggest partition
[09:05] <soundray> sethk: there might still be data on hda6 or so...?
[09:06] <ajopaul> my lsusb shows the device on bus 001 and devce 002
[09:06] <sethk> soundray, if there is an hda6, sure.
[09:06] <asdfjkl> foxjwill go to System >> Administration >> System Log, mine shows Logitech 4000 detected
[09:06] <comtech> POVaddct: yeah eth0 is WAN, eth1 is LAN (192.168.0.x)
[09:06] <sethk> datacrusher, you said there are _only_ two partitions, hda1 and hda5.  is that correct?
[09:06] <pau1> can anybody help me mount my second hard drive? it shows but i cannot mount it
[09:06] <POVaddct> comtech: which is the ip address of eth0?
[09:06] <der0b> pau1: do you know what the filesystem is?
[09:07] <ajopaul> der0b: hmm, should be usbfs rite!
[09:07] <Rich43> Hi, I have a old Toshiba 4090CDS Laptop.. I am having problems with a severe band of random pixels near the buttom of the screen. It was fine when it was used in windows. Any suggestions?
[09:07] <Rich43> Heres a screenshot: http://richieward.com/Screenshot.png
[09:07] <Rich43> Heres my XOrg.conf: http://richieward.com/xorg.conf
[09:07] <angelo> come posso rimuovere tutto firefox per poi reinstallarlo? ho provato con il synaptic ma firefox  rimasto
[09:07] <datacrusher> sethk
[09:07] <comtech> POVaddct: 66.218.55.78
[09:07] <datacrusher> the fdisk -l command returns me 3 lines
[09:07] <Mic__hael> angelo, try uninstalling with synaptic
[09:07] <POVaddct> comtech: okay
[09:07] <asdfjkl> foxjwill: try this too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[09:07] <purple> test
[09:07] <pau1> derob, i used it just for music on my system that was running another type of linux
[09:08] <sethk> datacrusher, why don't you put the output of fdisk -l /dev/hda  on the pastebot
[09:08] <der0b> ajopaul: that was directed at pau1 (having a prob mounting a second hard disk)
[09:08] <datacrusher> ~9/dev/hda1 * linux
[09:08] <ajopaul> oh!
[09:08] <datacrusher> 9/dev/hda2 ext
[09:08] <datacrusher> 9/dev/hda5 swap/solaris
[09:08] <der0b> pau1: what are you entering as your mount command?
[09:08] <sethk> datacrusher, ok.
[09:08] <datacrusher> im on another cpter
[09:08] <datacrusher> its the other pc we got
[09:08] <sethk> datacrusher, in that case you have to create a mount point, and then mount the partition
[09:08] <datacrusher> hm.
[09:08] <soundray> Rich43: I think I had this problem once, let me try and remember how I fixed it...
[09:09] <sethk> datacrusher, the mount point is just a directory and can be anything.  so do   mkdir /mnt/hda1
[09:09] <datacrusher> like mkdir the folders on the /mnt dir?
[09:09] <datacrusher> hm
[09:09] <sethk> datacrusher, exactly, yes
[09:09] <datacrusher> ill try
[09:09] <Rich43> soundray: thanks alot!
[09:09] <Riaal> Anyone knows how to install azureus in ubuntu (breezy)? please
[09:09] <sethk> then:   mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[09:09] <pau1> I am a newbie derob, just clicked on it and it says it will not mount. if i press enable in the disc manager it will not
[09:09] <sethk> datacrusher, if it is an ext3 partition, that will mount it.
[09:09] <farous> azureus is based on java just download it and use it from azu site. you need sun java installed though
[09:09] <drew> How can one manually (nano) edit their modprobe entries
[09:10] <datacrusher> i cant mk folder cause im on the live cd
[09:10] <POVaddct> comtech: do you have tcpdump installed?
[09:10] <der0b> pau1: I've never done it with the gui, but let me ask this, have you clicked the administrator mode button?
[09:10] <edwards> anybody knows why do I have this error
[09:10] <drew> wait, it's modprobe -e isn't it?
[09:10] <edwards> ulimit -n unlimited
[09:10] <edwards> -bash: ulimit: open files: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted
[09:10] <pau1> not that i know of derob
[09:10] <drew> edwards: sudo
[09:10] <edwards> I m root
[09:10] <jpena> hello
[09:10] <jeff303> does anyone know if it's possible to change the SMTP port used by Evolution?
[09:10] <jpena> someone from Costa Rica
[09:10] <comtech> POVaddct: I'll install it
[09:11] <der0b> You may need to resize the window to see it, but click that button and then try to mount it (only root can mount by default)
[09:11] <POVaddct> comtech: okay
[09:11] <sethk> datacrusher, that doesn't make any sense.
[09:11] <DBO> jeff303, yes, just add smtp.myserver.com:834  <--- like that if you want to use port 834 (why I wouldnt)
[09:11] <ajopaul> !help
[09:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:11] <sethk> datacrusher, if mnt exists, you can make a directory under it.  try this:   sudo mkdirhier /mnt/hda1
[09:11] <jpena> someone knows woich distro its better between Aurox and Ubunto
[09:11] <jpena> ?
[09:12] <jpena> someone know
[09:12] <micahcowan> jpena, this is an ubuntu channel, so of course we are all biased toward ubuntu.
[09:12] <POVaddct> jpena: there is no ubunto
[09:12] <der0b> jpena: that's all a matter of opinion
[09:12] <sethk> jpena, unanswerable question.  it depends on you and your intended usage
[09:12] <BrokenPipe> I'm trying to install bmpx by adding "deb http://www.kaduk.net/mateusz/debian/sid ./" to source.list, but it's complainging about dependences that need to be downgraded. I'm not sure how to continue.
[09:12] <jeff_> Any idea why KDevelop can't find autogen or configure for a simple project? I installed the autogen package through synaptic.
[09:12] <micahcowan> jpena, Also, this is a /support/ channel, and you are not asking a support-related question.
[09:12] <farous> jpena: try them both and use the one you like
[09:12] <jeff303> DBO: thanks that seemed to do it
[09:12] <DBO> no prob
[09:12] <sethk> BrokenPipe, you are trying to install a version of bmpx incompatible with the rest of your system.
[09:13] <Rich43> Anybody have a answer to my question that I said eirlier?
[09:13] <soundray> Rich43: I think I used something like ' Option "NoPciBurst" "on"  under the Driver "trident" line. Other options you might try are in 'man trident'. HTH
[09:13] <Rich43> oh
[09:13] <jpena> but Aurox its more stable than Ubunto?, or not
[09:13] <DBO> jpena, its spelled ubuntu
[09:13] <jpena> more reliable?
[09:13] <sethk> jpena, asking the question again changes nothing.
[09:13] <Kyral_Laptop> whats Aurox?
[09:13] <Rich43> thanks so much soundray :)
[09:14] <Rich43> il work on it
[09:14] <jpena> sorry ubuntu
[09:14] <justin_> jpena, You will not notice a difference
[09:14] <soundray> jpena: come back when you have a ubuntu support question
[09:14] <BrokenPipe> sethk: How would I install a version that IS compatible with the rest of my system? =)
[09:14] <jpena> Aurox its another distro
[09:14] <pau1> where is the admin mode button?
[09:14] <karihre> jpena: ubuntu is stable enough, don't worry about that.
[09:14] <der0b> pau1: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:14] <pau1> ubuntu
[09:14] <BrokenPipe> This says "Package doesn't work with Ubuntu, please use the proper one for it." http://bmpx.beep-media-player.org/site/Downloads#Debian_GNU.2FLinux
[09:14] <jpena> for servers ...application servers, web servers...
[09:14] <farous> jpena: this is not the palce for such question. most people here choosen ubuntu for they fetl comf with it. there are sites that will give you comparision. yet the best comparison is to test them your self
[09:14] <BrokenPipe> What is the "proper one"?
[09:14] <justin_> jpena, I am aware of that but unless you are a super developer - you will not notice any real stability differences, and obviously you are not a developer (high level), or you would have been able to reach a conclusion on your own.
[09:15] <justin_> Jpena, if you cannot figure out the stability differences between Aurox or Ubuntu, I suggest Ubuntu.
[09:15] <BrokenPipe> oh
[09:15] <sethk> BrokenPipe, first question is, does it exist in any of the standard ubuntu repositories?
[09:15] <BrokenPipe> I'm an idiot
[09:15] <jpena> why?
[09:15] <soundray> BrokenPipe: don't be *too* hard on yourself
[09:15] <mandeep> ahh looks so much better
[09:15] <der0b> ack, sorry man..  didn't mean to get your hopes up, I haven't spent enough time in gnome to walk you through this
[09:15] <BrokenPipe> sethk: There's an ubuntu specific one
[09:15] <jpena> wich features do you consider...?
[09:16] <DBO> jpena, because we found that the combination of community, support, features, and stability works for us
[09:16] <helmut> Hi. I've got an Epson Stylus DX4800 (printer) here. Connecting it yields to strange errors in dmesg and it cannot get it to print anything (even by using echo foo > /dev/usblp0)? I think this is the relvant part: "usblp0: nonzero read/write bulk status received: -71" any suggestions?
[09:16] <comtech> POVaddct: ok tcpdump is installed
[09:16] <justin_> jpena, Simple, ease, stability, speed - support.
[09:16] <sethk> BrokenPipe, ok, that sounds encouraging  :)
[09:16] <justin_> jpena, any modern Linux based on Debian is stable enough for your server needs.
[09:16] <justin_> really does not matter, if you are so concerned .. build your own
[09:16] <POVaddct> comtech: run this on the linux machine: tcpdump -ni eth1 tcp port 3389
[09:16] <jpena> I am running Kubuntu not ubuntu and not really highter...
[09:16] <soundray> helmut: are you connecting to a hub or directly to the mainboard?
[09:17] <DBO> jpena, kubuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu, all the same thing under the hood
[09:17] <justin_> jpena, Well why would you even run a server with X?
[09:17] <jpena> yeap sure....
[09:17] <helmut> soundray: directly
[09:17] <justin_> jpena, usually you should run servers .. for servers, you know console only..
[09:17] <comtech> POVaddct: it's listening on eth1.. now what
[09:17] <POVaddct> comtech: do you see any 3389/tcp traffic when you connect with rdesktop from outside?
[09:17] <helmut> soundray: anyway I've never seen a single problem with usbhubs and linux.
[09:17] <jpena> nop, excuse I am using Kubuntu for developer software...
[09:17] <justin_> If your going to waste cpu time on fancy graphics, the server cannot be very "intensive" anyways, so doesnt matter
[09:17] <jpena> for the moment...
[09:18] <justin_> jpena, Your a developer and cannot figure out which distro is the most stable for your needs?, c'mon.
[09:18] <comtech> POVaddct: yes-- http://paste.lisp.org/display/24132
[09:18] <soundray> helmut: it makes a difference for some types of webcam. I also had similar errors when connecting a PDA. In the latter case, I just had to unplug and replug until it worked.
[09:19] <jpena> Iam new with Kubuntu
[09:19] <uber_mort> justin_: Don't underestimate the power (or lack thereof) of people!
[09:19] <justin_> jpena, Anyways if you are using KDE and worrying about a server - it does not matter which distro you use.
[09:19] <justin_> uber <g>
[09:19] <POVaddct> comtech: you don't test from outside, do you?
[09:20] <pau1> I installed ubuntu and cannot get into my second hard drive
[09:20] <POVaddct> comtech: from outside it is working
[09:20] <comtech> POVaddct: I was testing from inside the lan to the external ip (comtech.desinc.net)
[09:20] <justin_> Well time for some lunch, see ya.
[09:20] <comtech> POVaddct: lol :(
[09:20] <POVaddct> comtech: from inside the input interface is _not_ eth0
[09:20] <helmut> soundray: the printer only gets recognized after switching it on. i.e. unplugging and replugging yields an unusable usb device.
[09:20] <datacrusher> it worked! im already copying the files
[09:20] <soundray> pau1: does it show up as a desktop icon?
[09:21] <helmut> soundray: switching off and on makes it work then.
[09:21] <pau1> no soundray but it is in the disc manager
[09:21] <POVaddct> comtech: you cannot test DNAT from inside
[09:21] <comtech> POVaddct: ok, thanks for all the help.. sorry I'm retarded
[09:21] <helmut> soundray: "work", well it get's recognized (sort of).
[09:21] <soundray> helmut: but still with the -71 error?
[09:21] <edwards> then no idea about ulimit issue
[09:21] <soundray> pau1: do you get any lines referring to the second drive when you type 'fdisk -l' in a terminal?
[09:21] <edwards> ulimit -n unlimited
[09:21] <edwards> -bash: ulimit: open files: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted
[09:22] <edwards> my ulmit issue
[09:22] <edwards> :)
[09:22] <helmut> soundray: yes
[09:22] <soundray> helmut: does it show up in lsusb?
[09:22] <helmut> soundray: errr no
[09:22] <jpena> well, i do not too much about the history Kubuntu
[09:23] <jpena> but if this a debian distro maybe its good
[09:23] <soundray> helmut: have you tried it successfully on any other computers or (gasp!) OSs?
[09:23] <helmut> soundray: after replugging there is not /dev/usblp0 created by udev
[09:23] <uber_mort> jpena: Its good.
[09:23] <helmut> soundray: switching it off and on creates that device.
[09:23] <helmut> soundray: this -71 error occurs
[09:24] <helmut> soundray: another windows machine makes it print.
[09:24] <pau1> nothing soundray
[09:24] <helmut> soundray: after replugging the device is not shown by lsusb
[09:24] <stiv2k> why don't any of the weather desklets work that come in the gdesklets package?
[09:25] <soundray> pau1: do you have data on that disk?
[09:25] <helmut> soundray: after rebooting the printer lsusb shows the epson device.
[09:25] <pau1> yes, some music and open office files
[09:26] <sethk> helmut, it is normal for the usb printer not to be detected until turned on.
[09:26] <[SR] Ha476> Hi there..
[09:26] <helmut> soundray: even the integrated massstorage device seems to be working (I have nothing to test though)
[09:26] <soundray> helmut: okay, what happens if you move forward and try to configure it?
[09:26] <Chetic> How do you format a CF card?
[09:27] <sethk> Chetic, the same way you format anything else.  depends on the file system you want to use
[09:27] <POVaddct> Chetic: depends how the card is connected
[09:27] <Chetic> sethk, fat16...
[09:27] <soundray> pau1: were these data there before you installed ubuntu?
[09:27] <helmut> soundray: the first time after booting ubuntu the printer was properly detected and easily configured.
[09:27] <Chetic> POVaddct, a memory card reader..?
[09:27] <sethk> Chetic, you can use mkfs.msdos
[09:27] <POVaddct> Chetic: so usb?
[09:28] <helmut> soundray: after unplugging it (and replugging and rebooting) the device is not detected by gnome-cups-addprinter
[09:28] <pau1> yes soundray, i was running another type of linux before on my primary disk and the second disk was my data storage
[09:28] <fresch> what can i do if a program i start via session delays the logout in gnome?
[09:28] <soundray> helmut: I see. Does it not work at all now, or does it work from time to time?
[09:28] <helmut> soundray: it did not succeed in printing anything though.
[09:28] <soundray> pau1: are you on a PC or Mac?
[09:28] <Chetic> POVaddct, yeah
[09:28] <Chetic> sethk, how?
[09:28] <helmut> soundray: I think that the printer is kind of "slow" and therefore times out somewhere in the kernel (read that for a similar printer).
[09:29] <pau1> pc soundray
[09:29] <Riaal> is there any other MSN client then gaim?
[09:29] <Excalicool> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[09:29] <Ribs> aMSN
[09:29] <stiv2k> why don't any of the weather desklets work that come in the gdesklets package?
[09:29] <HellDragon> wtf
[09:29] <Kyral_Laptop> ...wtf
[09:29] <HellDragon> netsplit
[09:29] <sethk> mkfs.msdos /dev/whatever.   the whatever is typically sda1.  that assumes that a partition table exists and the emulation device is sda
[09:29] <POVaddct> Chetic: so it must appear as /dev/sdX  (with X=a, b, c, ...)
[09:29] <Ribs> that wasn't a netsplit
[09:29] <Ribs> the DCC is a router exploit
[09:29] <sethk> chetic   mkfs.msdos /dev/whatever.   the whatever is typically sda1.  that assumes that a partition table exists and the emulation device is sda
[09:29] <Ribs> hence everyone with a affected router being kicked off
[09:29] <Riaal> thanks Ribs
[09:29] <Kyral_Laptop> Ain't there a port to connect to Freenode that gets around it?
[09:30] <sethk> Chetic, if you want to read it from windows you need to create a partition (if it doesn't already exist) and use sdX1, not sdX
[09:30] <HellDragon> freenode should redirect port 6667 to port 8001: problem solved
[09:30] <Ribs> Kyral_Laptop, It's nothing to do with the port
[09:30] <Ribs> afaik
[09:30] <ENE|Toxic> How can I get sed to do branch expansion, ie: sed -e 's/ ${a} / ${b} /g where a,b are variables. ? (now they are treated like a "{" folloed by "a" "}" .. etc).
[09:30] <Kyral_Laptop> HellDragon: yah
[09:30] <HellDragon> 8001 is unafected
[09:30] <helmut> soundray: when booting linux after switching the printer on the printer was detected because the timeout happened before linux booted.
[09:30] <HellDragon> i think
[09:30] <Ribs> or, people could just fix their routers
[09:30] <Kyral_Laptop> ENE|Toxic: in ' ' everything is a literal
[09:30] <soundray> helmut: is there an alternative way to connect this printer?
[09:30] <helmut> soundray: this seems to be reasonable, but I don't know if it is correct.
[09:30] <helmut> soundray: no
[09:30] <Kyral_Laptop> ENE|Toxic: use " "
[09:30] <ENE|Toxic> Kyral_Laptop: ahhhh thanks :D
[09:30] <helmut> soundray: I'd used that if there was. ;-)
[09:31] <POVaddct> f*cking protocol that need NAT helpers...
[09:31] <Kyral_Laptop> ENE|Toxic: np, might I also suggest reading TLDPs Advanced Shell Scripting Guide?
[09:31] <javiolo> hi
[09:31] <soundray> helmut: I'm afraid I'm out of suggestions. Sorry
[09:31] <POVaddct> DCC is evil
[09:31] <a-865> https://help.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/partitions-booting.html doesn't tell how to eradicate the boot splash. Can someone point me to a howto that does it? Other distros kill it with a vga= or splash=0 or somesuch on the kernel line, but this seems to do nothing with dapper.
[09:31] <helmut> soundray: thanks anyway.
[09:31] <ENE|Toxic> Kyral_Laptop: Thanks for the advice
[09:31] <stiv2k> why don't any of the weather desklets work that come in the gdesklets package?
[09:31] <Kyral_Laptop> TLDP == The Linux Documentation Project www.tldp.org
[09:31] <bruker> I am new to ubuntu... I have problems installing Gambas, how do i solve it...
[09:31] <bruker> configure: WARNING: *** external internationalization library is disabled
[09:31] <bruker> checking for external charset conversion library headers... /usr/include/
[09:31] <bruker> checking for external charset conversion library libraries... no
[09:31] <soundray> pau1: do you remember what kind of filesystem you created on the second disk?
[09:32] <bruker> configure: WARNING: *** external charset conversion library is disabled
[09:32] <bruker> checking for external gettext library headers...
[09:32] <Kyral_Laptop> NO PASTE!
[09:32] <bruker> checking for external gettext library libraries... no
[09:32] <bruker> configure: WARNING: *** external gettext library is disabled
[09:32] <Kyral_Laptop> !pastebin
[09:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:32] <pau1> not sure soundray
[09:32] <bruker> checking for QT component headers... no
[09:32] <Thunderpants> ll
[09:32] <bruker> checking for QT component libraries... no
[09:32] <Thunderpants> lol
[09:32] <javiolo> When I go to the terminal the fonts are too big and it doesnt fit all on the screen, any idea ?
[09:32] <bruker> configure: WARNING: *** QT component is disabled
[09:32] <bruker> checking for X... no
[09:32] <soundray> bruker: the first thing you should do is read the topic and learn something about how to behave in here
[09:32] <rsk> stop that
[09:32] <bruker> checking for XOpenDisplay in -lX11... no
[09:32] <bruker> configure: error: *** libX11 not found. Check 'config.log' for more details.
[09:32] <bruker> root@bruker-desktop:/home/bruker/Desktop/gambas-1.0.17#
[09:32] <bruker> sorry, did not mean to do that
[09:32] <bruker> yeah, sorry
[09:32] <Rich43> soundman: Option "NoPciBurst" "on" didnt fix it :(
[09:32] <interfear> where can i find a list of mirrors ?
[09:32] <interfear> specifically security
[09:33] <interfear> but mirrors in general as well
[09:33] <soundray> pau1: is it an IDE drive?
[09:33] <pau1> it is soundray
[09:33] <bburns> Can someone help me with a mysql problem, when I try to import a script it keeps giving me ERROR 1062 (23000) at line 71: Duplicate entry 'localhost-sysloguser' for key 1 -- but I don't see any duplicate anywhere.
[09:33] <soundray> pau1: are the jumpers set correctly? Master/slave-wise?
[09:34] <soundray> Rich43: too bad. Have you tried any other options from man trident?
[09:34] <pau1> they were before, i have not changed them sound
[09:34] <Excalicool> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[09:34] <Rich43> soundray: not yet, working on it
[09:34] <soundray> pau1: I take it the drive is hdb then. Have you done a 'dmesg | grep hdb'?
[09:34] <Ropechoborra> How do i install a .bin ?
[09:35] <Warbo> Can someone see if apt-get build-dep enlightenment gives a valid list of packages to install? For me I get a message that xlibs-data is not installable
[09:35] <ryuujin_> Ropechoborra: .. sudo chmod +x file.bin
[09:35] <matheus> hello
[09:35] <javiolo> When I go to the terminal the fonts are too big and it doesnt fit all on the screen, any idea ?
[09:35] <ryuujin_> and Ropechoborra ./file.bin
[09:35] <Ropechoborra> Ty
[09:35] <bjron> anyone here familiar with cheops-ng?
[09:35] <sethk> ryuujin_, no need to use sudo
[09:36] <bienve> hi, somebody to installed engage in dapper?
[09:36] <soundray> Warbo: I get the same here. I'd call it a bug
[09:36] <Ribs> a channel mode to prevent users sending dccs to the channel would be really helpfull right now :>
[09:36] <matheus> anyone can helpme with multiple sound cards?
[09:36] <stiv2k> why don't any of the weather desklets work that come in the gdesklets package?
[09:36] <ryuujin_> sethk: no if the bin doesn't write in system directories
[09:36] <POVaddct> Ribs: yeah
[09:36] <ryuujin_> such us /usr...
[09:36] <Warbo> soundray: OK, just that I wasn't sure due to my third-party reops (but I have disabled them all temporarily)
[09:37] <Riaal> I can't use my account on aMSN, something about "This profile is used by another amsn session, choose another one " don't think im usning it ? =S
[09:37] <Warbo> *repos
[09:37] <sethk> ryuujin_, you mean if it is in a directory where the user doesn't have access, well, that's true, but also highly unlikely.
[09:37] <bburns> Warbo, can you help with a mysql problem?
[09:37] <matheus> can I rename a sound ?
[09:37] <Warbo> Hang on, I've confused myself here. I'd better start Fluxbox...
[09:38] <sethk> matheus, if it is a .wav file, or any file, for that matter, then yes
[09:38] <sethk> matheus, or you can create a link to it so that both names work
[09:38] <matheus> sethk, no I want to rename the device
[09:38] <Riaal> just got it to work, but it's supose to be a newer verison of amsn then 0.94? Why don't apt-get install the latest one?
[09:38] <xet7> What is good webcam model for Ubuntu?
[09:38] <doomsdayhackers> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[09:39] <Warbo> That's better
[09:39] <matheus> sethk, I have 3 cards... 2 are the same
[09:39] <Warbo> bburns: I know nothing about mysql sorry
[09:39] <Frankenstein> how can i uncompress .rar files?
[09:39] <Warbo> !info unrar
[09:39] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[09:39] <Riaal> Anyone? how do I update aMSN?
[09:39] <Frankenstein> Warbo, thanks
[09:39] <Thunderpants> Frankenstein, unrar
[09:39] <soundray> bburns: try me, I'm an advanced newbie ;)
[09:39] <compotatoj> !automatix
[09:39] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[09:39] <javiolo> !rar > Frankenstein
[09:39] <Ribs> those quit messages with "Success" ... Do you think he's actually managed to run some code on those routers?
[09:40] <sethk> matheus, you can rename the /dev node if you like.  I'm not sure why you want to, so perhaps I'm misinterpreting the question.
[09:40] <matheus> sethk, and I have problem in mixer, I belive that is the cards names that is the sabe
[09:40] <rsk> Ribs: sudo apt-get install amsn
[09:40] <CVirus> how come fsck takes 1 second on a 45Gb partition ?
[09:40] <rsk> Riaal: *
[09:40] <bburns> soundray, i think i fixed it, one moment
[09:40] <matheus> sethk, the same
[09:40] <soundray> CVirus: the wonders of journalling filesystems ;)
[09:40] <sethk> matheus, usually the mixer will work with a symlink
[09:40] <CVirus> soundray: I want to perform a full scan
[09:40] <compotatoj> CVirus, linux is just really good like that.
[09:41] <CVirus> soundray: for bad sectors
[09:41] <Riaal> rsk, =
[09:41] <Riaal> ?
[09:41] <sethk> matheus, do you know what name the mixer is using?
[09:41] <rsk> Riaal: sudo apt-get install amsn
[09:41] <matheus> sethk, but the problem is card:0 (Ensoniq PCI), card:1 (Ensoniq PCI)
[09:41] <sethk> matheus, it isn't true that two instances of a piece of hardware have the same name.
[09:41] <mjr> CVirus, -fc
[09:41] <fk6> hi
[09:41] <void^> CVirus: or use badblocks
[09:42] <sethk> matheus, that's usually not the  name that matters
[09:42] <Riaal> rsk,  dosent work, still got "old version"
[09:42] <fk6> i am here...because i have a debian/ubuntu problem, guess what ;)
[09:42] <mjr> CVirus, or -fcc for read-write-testing
[09:42] <rsk> Riaal: what is the old version?
[09:42] <sethk> matheus, usually the important name is /dev/XXXX
[09:42] <fk6> it's about apt-get and unauthenticated packages
[09:42] <soundray> CVirus: be careful, there is a variant that works destructively. Back up your data first.
[09:42] <matheus> sethk, I know
[09:42] <CVirus> whats -fc ?
[09:42] <fk6> i have been looking now for 4h and not found what it is
[09:42] <Riaal> rsk,  I really dont care about the version, I just want to see the avatar (witch I don't) I got 0.94
[09:42] <matheus> sethk. all works fine.. but the only problem is in the mixer
[09:42] <CVirus> got it
[09:43] <skroll> anyone here use aiglx without the compiz effects?  does aiglx have any effect on plain metacity/
[09:43] <rsk> Riaal: are you running dapper?
[09:43] <sethk> matheus, which mixer ?
[09:43] <fk6> the IGN in apt-get update, means, that it couldn't connect to the server in the repository?
[09:43] <matheus> sethk, gnome volume control
[09:43] <frandavid100> hi
[09:43] <Herbal> is there a repo for kiba dock?
[09:43] <fk6> i cannot get a specific package, everybody else seems fine getting it, dunno why, so please help :)
[09:43] <sethk> I'm using kde so I can't trace that here.
[09:43] <Riaal> rsk, no, breezer, whats the difference? is it hard/risky to change?
[09:44] <matheus> sethk, I belive that the problem is the name of driver is the same
[09:44] <matheus> sethk, for both cards
[09:44] <rsk> Riaal: you get older packages for breezy than dapper
[09:44] <rsk> Riaal: thats why
[09:44] <rsk> read the output if !upgrade
[09:44] <rsk> !upgrade
[09:44] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[09:44] <rpedro> fk6: if you have problems getting some packages with apt-get , maybe try configuring another repository or even the main ubuntu repositories, hopefully it will fix that
[09:44] <sethk> matheus, I understand what you are saying, but I'm not sure that it is relevant.  I don't know how the gnome mixer converts that string to a sound device.
[09:45] <Riaal> rsk, is it hard or risky?
[09:45] <sethk> matheus, I would trace it, but I don't have it here as I run kde.
[09:45] <stiv2k> why don't any of the weather desklets work that come in the gdesklets package?
[09:45] <fk6> i can get packages. i just can't get this one, as it is unauthenticated
[09:45] <fk6> doesn't have a gpg sig
[09:45] <DBO> EpP, say something please =)
[09:45] <rsk> Riaal: i cant answear that, never upgraded
[09:45] <rpedro> fk6: you can still install, no?
[09:45] <Riaal> Anyone? Why can i have a avatar in aMSN 0.94 but i can't se anyone elses?
[09:45] <rsk> Riaal: upgrade to dapper.
[09:45] <matheus> sethk, whats the name of mixer in kde?
[09:45] <EpP> DBO, hi
[09:45] <Herbal> does anyone know of a Repo for Kiba dock?
[09:45] <DBO> EpP, ok thanks
[09:46] <matheus> sethk, I'll try to install it
[09:46] <doomsdayhackers> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[09:46] <fk6> rpedro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[09:46] <fk6> rpedro: yes i can install, but the stupid thing from that page above
[09:46] <rpedro> fk6: it is probably from a extra repository you added , you will need to import the gpg key
[09:46] <tuxvix> hello everyone :)
[09:46] <compotatoj> lol that was funny
[09:46] <HellDragon> hey tuxvix
[09:46] <compotatoj> what was that doomsday thing
[09:46] <tuxvix> Does anyone know if knot1 is stable to use for daily uses?
[09:47] <fk6> rpedro: i get this here: root@leonfuenf:/etc/apt# apt-get  --allow-unauthenticated -f update
[09:47] <fk6> Ign http://blognux.free.fr unstable Release.gpg
[09:47] <cdubya> anyone have any warnings on laptops to stay away from when considering a new lower-end purchase?
[09:47] <HellDragon> brb
[09:47] <[b] urk> how do i start emacs in terminal mode? (not x)?
[09:47] <fk6> rpedro: i can't find the gpg key
[09:47] <rpedro> fk6: don't paste here
[09:47] <Warbo> Anyone know how I can just get a list of what enlightenment needs to be built, since apt-get build-dep doesn't work?
[09:47] <Kyral_Laptop> [b] urk: emacs -nw
[09:47] <fk6> rpedro: and the --allow-unauthenticated apt-get setting also doesn't help
[09:47] <[b] urk> Kyral_Laptop, thx
[09:47] <cdubya> I'm looking for something that is on the low end financially that will handle dapper and not give me too much headache as far as hardware issues......any thoughts?
[09:47] <fk6> rpedro: sorry
[09:47] <tuxvix> Knot 1 >>> Stable?
[09:48] <matheus> sethk, I have xfce in my system, I'll try with xfce mixer
[09:48] <rpedro> fk6: you mean apt-get doesn't give you an option to install anyway
[09:48] <robmoore518> May I ask a question about installation that I can't seem to find an answer to on the website?
[09:48] <cdubya> robmoore518, just ask :)
[09:48] <rpedro> fk6: if it's the gpg key, it usually does
[09:48] <fk6> rpedro: well the optoin doesn't work, as described in man, which is why i am wondering whether there is something else i can do, and i couldn't find a gpg key for that guy on the webpage nor anywhere in the ubuntuforums
[09:49] <fk6> rpedro: well what else does IGN mean?
[09:49] <karihre> anyone that I can chat to about building ubuntu cluster ?
[09:49] <sethk> matheus, ok
[09:49] <rpedro> fk6: hmm
[09:49] <sethk> matheus, you can try alsamixer also
[09:50] <fk6> rpedro: i thought hit means, uptodate, get retrieve new packages, ign sig doesn't match i ignore it for security reasons
[09:50] <robmoore518> Ok, I have the latest version of the dapper iso. I booted to it, I get the splash screen, I choose install, and it goes through the motions, but then it gets to a certain point and all I have is a cursor and a black screen.
[09:50] <cunali> Hello everyone. I was attempting to boot ubuntu from a live CD, to see if it'd work on my computer, but when it boots up the GUI it just freezes. I have an AMD64 but am running the x86 CD, would that possibly be the problem? An AMD64 should be able to run the x86 version as well shouldn't it?
[09:50] <robmoore518> It never loads the graphic interface.
[09:51] <robmoore518> looks like cunali and I are hitting the same wall
[09:51] <robmoore518> I'm using a P4 1.8 gHz
[09:51] <cunali> hehe yes robmoore518, though mine seems to progress a stage or two beyond yours before freezing :(
[09:51] <DBO> ok that takes care of that
[09:51] <karihre> the x86 disc could be problematic with amd64
[09:51] <Warbo> Is there a way of finding out what apt-get build-dep packagename would try to install? I need a list of packages to get myself, since build-dep enlightenment is broken
[09:51] <fk6> rpedro: that's what i have been doing for the past 4h :)
[09:51] <manopulus> question - what software i can use for webcam?
[09:51] <Warbo> !info camorama
[09:51] <ubotu> camorama: gnome2 tool to view, alter and save images from a webcam. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 101 kB, installed size 768 kB
[09:52] <manopulus> thank you
[09:52] <cunali> karihre: hmmm okie. I just started the download for the 64bit version now, still 20 minutes left though :( Will see how it goes I suppose
[09:52] <rpedro> fk6: looking at the repository through firefox, the layout seems a little strange... I will try it myself , one sec.
[09:53] <fk6> rpedro: what happens if you add that repo to sources.list on your machine and do an apt-get update?
[09:53] <karihre> cunali: I suppose : )
[09:53] <cunali> ^_^
[09:53] <TimeKiller> Has anyone had much experience using Awstats on a massive dynamic virtual host?
[09:53] <matheus> sethk, thank you... works with alsamixer
[09:53] <crazy_penguin> Hi all!
[09:54] <madc> has anyone observed an error with firefox/folck (any gecko based browser) locking the system up when viewing png's?
[09:55] <fk6> madc: can you reproduce it?
[09:55] <pookey> hey all, what's current release? dapper or brezzy? or... are they not differnt release names ?
[09:55] <madc> absolutly
[09:55] <fk6> pookey: dapper
[09:55] <madc> I've tried strace
[09:55] <chemikal> dapper
[09:55] <Warbo> Dapper is current stable. Breezy is still supported
[09:55] <rpedro> fk6: it shows 'IGN' in front of that server , but I think that is normal...
[09:55] <rsk> pookey: dapper is current stable release
[09:55] <madc> but it doesnt write the output file until its ended
[09:55] <fk6> madc: url?
[09:55] <crazy_penguin> could someone tell how to setup glx in Xorg? i have a riva tnt2 video card. i tried the nvidia-glx-config enable command but it doesn't work
[09:55] <madc> any png.
[09:55] <pookey> rsk : fk6 > Thanks, brezzy is former?
[09:55] <madc> specifcly
[09:55] <madc> when you try to view a png in a new tab.
[09:55] <rsk> jup
[09:55] <acuster> hey all, is there a way to force a wget command to work over a particular interface ppp0 instead of eth1?
[09:56] <fk6> madc: any strange plugins?
[09:56] <Warbo> crazy_penguin: You would need nvidia-glx-legacy if anything is going to work
[09:56] <acuster> or any arbitrary program?
[09:56] <crazy_penguin> Warbo: i installed it
[09:56] <Warbo> crazy_penguin: OK
[09:56] <fk6> rpedro: i am SO stupid :(
[09:56] <madc> fk6, I uninstalled all the plugins... disabled javascript...etc
[09:56] <rpedro> fk6: it works for me , it just shows this confirmation : 'Install these packages without verification [y/N] ? y'
[09:56] <pookey> rsk : fk6 > Thanks agian :)
[09:56] <Warbo> crazy_penguin: Doesn't that command just change the device driver in xorg.conf to nvidia? If so just run sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and do it manually
[09:57] <madc> tried ssh into the machine and redirecting strace to that vtty, but as soon as it starts to view the png it locks, including my remote shell
[09:57] <crazy_penguin> Warbo: but the script is trying to use the nvidia driver instead of nv and  doesn't work
[09:57] <fk6> rpedro: would you believe it, i tried for 4h to get the ign away, as i had the problem withanother repo which seemingly must have been unreachable....and gave kind of the same error later...but yes here it is in aptitude. thx rpedro
[09:57] <robmoore518> any idea why gnome won't load during installation of dapper on a p4 that is sucessfully running warty?
[09:57] <crazy_penguin> Warbo: when i use the nvidia driver the X server crashes
[09:57] <Warbo> crazy_penguin: nv driver is Free Software and has no 3D. nvidia is the 3D driver
[09:57] <crazy_penguin> Warbo: saying that he can't load some kernel module. i installled the restricted modules also
[09:58] <fk6> madc: locks your remote screen? that sure is strange. have you tried the mozilla ppl on there irc server?
[09:58] <madc> not yet, though thats my next stop.  It seems to hard lock the entire machine, goes dead on the network..etc
[09:58] <mcphail> madc: no such problem here
[09:58] <Warbo> crazy_penguin: if "sudo modprobe nvidia" gives an error message, then something is wrong
[09:58] <madc> IM on another identical machine rite now without the issue
[09:59] <crazy_penguin> warbo: one sec it have to look
[09:59] <madc> I might try uninstalling and reinstalling firefox
[09:59] <fk6> madc: are the binaries the same?
[09:59] <madc> Id imagine its a problem with the png rendering library
[09:59] <madc> fk6, yes.
[09:59] <crazy_penguin> Warbo: no error
[09:59] <fk6> madc: what is the url?
[09:59] <crazy_penguin> Warbo: i will be back
[09:59] <[Jessica] > hey.
[10:00] <[Jessica] > I need some help.
[10:00] <crazy_penguin> Warbo: i got an ideea
[10:00] <Warbo> crazy_penguin: Then X should work (if it fails after a reboot then add nvidia to /etc/modules)
[10:00] <mcphail> madc: i did occasionally have problems with my old laptop, firefox, ndiswrapper and the binary ati driver.
[10:00] <amarillion> Ever seen this error message: "Your audio capture settings are invalid, please correct them in the multimedia settings" when opening the sound recorder?
[10:00] <madc> treycopeland.http://www.wku.edu/~trey.copeland/linux_shot.png
[10:00] <crazy_penguin> Warbo: i think that perhaps he doesn't load the module
[10:00] <[Jessica] > I've got windows on my primary master, and ubuntu on my primary slave.
[10:00] <cowmilk> how do i do a quick search of all the pdf files i have in my hard drive
[10:00] <madc> thats where it first happened, I then noticed any png would do it.
[10:00] <[Jessica] > I really don't need a boot menu because I have the primary slave set as the first drive in my bios
[10:00] <fk6> madc: identical distributions?
[10:00] <amarillion> If you have an idea how I can troubleshoot that please let me know
[10:00] <[Jessica] > so if I want windows I can use my BIOS boot menu
[10:00] <[Jessica] > but
[10:01] <madc> mcphail I use wlan_ng , and the Xorg ati driver
[10:01] <[Jessica] > when I try to boot ubuntu, grub gives me error 15
[10:01] <[Jessica] > any ideas?
[10:01] <madc> fg6, identical distro, hardware
[10:01] <Warbo> I hate GRUB error codes. I have no idea what they mean
[10:01] <amarillion> Jessica, have you googled for it? I've had problems with grub error code 11 once :) and google helped out
[10:02] <fk6> madc: that png looks normal, are the libpng binaries the same?
[10:02] <madc> they are exactly the same
[10:02] <ingvildr> [Jessica] :  Error 15 means that grub is looking for a file and can't find it.
[10:02] <fk6> madc: any other crashes with this machine?
[10:02] <TimeKiller> Little known GRUB error code 20042363 = You need to drink more milk.
[10:03] <madc> Im going to remove and reinstlal firefox, then try again
[10:03] <POVaddct> apt-get moo
[10:03] <Luke> is there a way to make ntfs read and write without recompiling the kernel?
[10:03] <speedwank> evening
[10:03] <goga> hi, i 've been using anjuta for a week now and yesterday when i tried to open it, it crashed.Since then i cant open it and when i try to it prints (in terminal) the error :(anjuta:10117): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_set_sensitive: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed) e.t.c. .....can anybody knows whats going on?? thanx
[10:03] <madc> Luke: captive-ntfs
[10:03] <mcphail> madc: anything in the logs?
[10:03] <madc> though it is a commercial solution
[10:03] <madc> mcmillen unfourtunatly not
[10:03] <azureal> hi; are there any aterm users that have managed to control weird character encoding errors?
[10:03] <madc> err mcphail no :p
[10:03] <Luke> madc: its not free>
[10:03] <mcphail> :)
[10:03] <Luke> ?
[10:03] <madc> Luke, no.
[10:04] <Luke> madc: ok thanks
[10:04] <cdubya> !vmplayer
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <mcphail> madc: have you checked your RAM etc?
[10:04] <cdubya> !vmware
[10:04] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[10:04] <fk6> madc: why should reinstalling ff help?
[10:04] <Luke> madc: is there any other way in ubuntu to write to ntfs without recompiling the kernel?
[10:04] <madc> Luke not to my knowledge
[10:04] <speedwank> can anyone help me with getting sound back working on dapper? it was working, then I hibernated the machine and since then I can't get sound - despite restarts of gnome and the w/s
[10:04] <ljlolel> so, I have an external usb hard drive
[10:04] <ljlolel> I plugged itin
[10:04] <madc> fk6, possibly something has become corrupted, its my first course of action
[10:04] <fk6> madc: save the ff dir, reinstall and in case diff
[10:04] <KenSentMe> When i use Terminal Server Client for a vnc connection, most of the times i can scroll once, but then scrolling (sliding the window to the left) doesn't work anymore. Do others have that problem
[10:04] <Luke> madc: thanks
[10:04] <ljlolel> I can see it at /dev/bus/usb/001/003
[10:05] <ljlolel> but How do imake ubuntu detect it?
[10:05] <madc> fk6, yes already moved it to to a diff
[10:05] <ljlolel> also, how do i format the harddrive?
[10:05] <fk6> madc: i guess the .user dirs are also the same?
[10:05] <madc> fk6, absolutly
[10:05] <madc> this is a standard image
[10:05] <wildman> hello
[10:05] <linuxgoober> how do i unmount a device if it says its busy. konqueror is closed and xterm is not in that directory
[10:05] <fk6> madc: neutrinos....
[10:05] <asdfjkl> does anyone use motion to save images to an ftp server?
[10:06] <wildman> I want to get rid of the "beep" made when there's more than one possible completion for bash's tab completion, how do I do it?
[10:06] <ljlolel> so, i have an external usb harddrive, i plugged it in -- I can see it at /dev/bus/usb/001/003, but how do I make ubuntu mount it?
[10:06] <warlock\wrk> !pastebin
[10:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:06] <wildman> !bash
[10:06] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:07] <Chetic> What's the equivalent of "copy /b" in windows?
[10:07] <POVaddct> ljlolel: it should appear in /proc/partitions
[10:07] <mcphail> ljlolel: it doesn't get assigned a nicer name like "/dev/sdx"?
[10:07] <madc> well a reinstall with no plugins, java, flash still locksup
[10:07] <warlock\wrk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20583 - can anyone help me? trying to make so pureftpd runs on startup of ubuntu, but it doesnt seem to work? whats wrong in that line ?
[10:07] <madc> meh, IM just going to reimage the drive
[10:07] <azureal> ljlolel, what does "tail /var/log/messages" tell you
[10:07] <wildman> Chetic, did you try "dd" ?
[10:07] <goga>  hi, i 've been using anjuta for a week now and yesterday when i tried to open it, it crashed.Since then i cant open it and when i try to it prints (in terminal) the error :(anjuta:10117): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_set_sensitive: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed) e.t.c. .....does anybody knows whats going on?? thanx
[10:07] <POVaddct> Chetic: you don't need something like /b. cp is always binary.
[10:07] <goochy> can anyone recommend a VNC prog for Ubuntu?
[10:08] <madc> goochy : gnome-rdp
[10:08] <Chetic> wildman, nope
[10:08] <mcphail> madc: have you checked your ram? Firefox is noted to have memory leaks aplenty, and may be putting your system under a bit of strain
[10:08] <amarillion> wildman: you can do that with setterm
[10:08] <warlock\wrk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20583 - can anyone help me? trying to make so pureftpd runs on startup of ubuntu, but it doesnt seem to work? whats wrong in that line ?
[10:08] <madc> mcphail I actrualy ran memtest86
[10:08] <amarillion> but I don't know the exact option
[10:08] <amarillion> try man setterm
[10:09] <wildman> amarillion, will check it thx. Do you know where is that thing set? system-wide? on which config file?
[10:09] <fk6> madc: then you would also have other crashes....and not necessarily reproducable with only the png...
[10:09] <madc> now if I couldny learn to type ;)
[10:09] <speedwank> can anyone help me with getting sound back working on dapper? it was working, then I hibernated the machine and since then I can't get sound - despite restarts of gnome and the w/s
[10:09] <XiXaQ> Hello everyone. Ubuntu 6.06.1, is that a cd update?
[10:09] <mcphail> fk6: agreed, but worth checking (and he has)
[10:09] <amarillion> You can try adding it to your .bashrc
[10:09] <fk6> madc: have you tried without flash/java?
[10:09] <citizen> @XiXaQ what do you mean?
[10:09] <madc> fk6, yes when I revinstalled ff
[10:09] <asdfjkl> does anyone use motion to save images to an ftp server?
[10:09] <XiXaQ> speedwank: sounds like something is using the sound interface? Perhaps if you look at running processes, you can kill one?
[10:10] <ljlolel> usb hard drive: It looks like it found it, under sdb, but it didn't make a /dev/sdb, I think because the drive isn't formatted.... It's a brand new drive, how do I format it?
[10:10] <madc> vanilla firefox from the ubuntu repos
[10:10] <mcphail> madc: have you tried firefox from the mozilla site?
[10:10] <XiXaQ> citizen: the version named Ubuntu 6.06.1 ... What's that?
[10:10] <KenSentMe> XiXaQ: it's ubuntu with all the updates installed, so if you've updated you packages you have 6.06.1
[10:10] <speedwank> XiXaQ: an idea for sure, thanks for the suggestion
[10:10] <amarillion> Coud somebody help me figure out why my mic isn't recording sound? If I can't figure this out I'll have to reboot in windows and I really hate windows :)
[10:10] <fk6> madc: right, you can't even ssh to the machine anymore, when she locks up?
[10:10] <ljlolel> usb harddrive: it says attached scsi: unknown partition table
[10:10] <madc> mcphail not yet, Im going to reimage the drive and see what happens, it was fine for a few weeks then started this morning
[10:10] <madc> fk6, correct, its a hard lock
[10:10] <h8tred> anyone have a fix or answer to why firefox keeps freezing on flash sites?
[10:11] <POVaddct> ljlolel: it should be preformatted with fat32. are you sure only /dev/sdb is shown in /proc/partitions?
[10:11] <fk6> lilbit: try fdisk /dev/sdb
[10:11] <ljlolel> Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun, SGI or OSF disklabel
[10:11] <ljlolel> in resposne to fdisk
[10:11] <crazy_penguin> Warbo: i tried it. modprobe nvidia doesn't give me any error, but if i use the nvidia driver in xorg the server crashes and gives me the following error: "(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!"
[10:11] <lilbit> fk6, to do what?
[10:11] <fk6> ljlolel: it's a partitioning tool, you have to setup the partition
[10:12] <kjm> i'm having trouble configuring my sound device.  Audio works fine.  Volume/mixer does not change the volume.  Anyone can help?
[10:12] <lilbit> I dont want to format my computer?
[10:12] <ljlolel> fk6, cool
[10:12] <fk6> ljlolel: or have you ever used it before? not that we repartition something that doesn't need to
[10:12] <ljlolel> fk6, do i make an extended or primary partitoin?
[10:12] <mcphail> crazy_penguin: have you installed linux resticted modules?
[10:12] <mcphail> *restricted
[10:12] <crazy_penguin> mcphail: yes
[10:12] <ljlolel> fk6, I've done some debian installs with partitioning, but not a lot
[10:12] <fk6> lilbit: sorry, was a nick typo, wanted ljlolel
[10:13] <crazy_penguin> mcphail: i followed the wiki ad litteram
[10:13] <fk6> ljlolel: is there anything on the disk or is it new?
[10:13] <ljlolel> brand new
[10:13] <lilbit> fk6, I know, I was just kidding around
[10:13] <JonasCJ> Can anyone assist me on a GRUB error?
[10:13] <fk6> ljlolel: then partition it with eg fdisk
[10:14] <fk6> lilbit: baeh ;)
[10:14] <ljlolel> fk6, what is eg fdisk?
[10:14] <warlock\wrk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20583 - can anyone help me? trying to make so pureftpd runs on startup of ubuntu, but it doesnt seem to work? whats wrong in that line ?
[10:14] <fk6> ljlolel: fdisk is a tool with which you partition a harddisk
[10:14] <JonasCJ> fdisk is a utility to create partitions on a hdd
[10:14] <JonasCJ> :)
[10:14] <fk6> ljlolel: try fdisk /dev/sdb
[10:14] <ljlolel> fk6, okay, so i make a fat32 partition, is that an extended or primary type partition?
[10:14] <wildman> bye ppl
[10:14] <fk6> ljlolel: then type p, that should show you the current partition table
[10:15] <azureal> ljlolel, by "eg" he meant "e.g." --> for example
[10:15] <ljlolel> fk6, I think i'll make two partitions, half each
[10:15] <fk6> ljlolel: you need at least one primary
[10:15] <ubuntu_> It seems as the ubuntu livecd cant find my awe32-soundcard
[10:15] <ljlolel> azureal, thanks,heh, wasnt sure
[10:15] <fk6> ljlolel: what file system?
[10:15] <goga> hey everyone ....anjuta and monodevelop crash when i attempt to open ....the error output is : (anjuta:10471): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_set_sensitive: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed ).e.t.c.. any help?
[10:15] <ljlolel> okay, i'm going to make two 160GB primary fat32 partitions
[10:15] <h8tred> can someone help me, i have no idea what is causing my problem
[10:15] <ljlolel> I want to share this with a windows system
[10:16] <fk6> ljlolel: fine, use n then primary and then answer the "how much space" question with 160G
[10:16] <kjm> h8trd - would help if you described the problem.  Then people would be in a better position to know if they can help.
[10:16] <on1009> hi everybody
[10:16] <JonasCJ> Any one who would help me avoid GRUB error 18?
[10:16] <ljlolel> fk6, azureal thanks everybody!
[10:16] <mcphail> Can you make fat32 partitions that large???
[10:16] <iron[linux] > bye
[10:16] <azureal> heh, i barely did anything, but np =)
[10:16] <tamale> can someone help me get sound working in dapper?  I can hear when I tap my microphone but that's it.. nothing else is playing
[10:17] <on1009> can someone give me a quick hint where the OO-printer-setup is in dapper-drake?
[10:17] <fk6> mcphail: afaik yes, otherwise he'll see an error later on. but yes, pretty sure
[10:17] <azureal> unless you took my suggestion to tail /var/log/messages
[10:17] <goga> hey everyone ....anjuta and monodevelop crash when i attempt to open ....the error output is : (anjuta:10471): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_set_sensitive: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed ).e.t.c.. any help please??
[10:17] <h8tred> kjm: i did, but anyways, firefox keeps crashing on certain flash sites
[10:17] <kjm> on1009 - if you set up printers in System->Administration->Printers - they should be available to openoffice
[10:18] <mcphail> fk6: i vaguely recall the winXP installer telling me i couldn't make one larger than about 30-40G
[10:18] <ljlolel> fk6, azureal what is the difference between FAT32 and FAT32(LBA)
[10:18] <jbirdAngel_> Hello im having some technical difficuluties, 1) when i start ubuntu it says /dev/hda3 contains a file system with errors, check forced, then it tries to scan it and ends up failing the scan and one thing i saw it say was !/2% non -contiguous, but not sure what else it said or what to look for, second i have 7 updates that i am trying to download cupsys gnome-games stuff that it fails to download?
[10:18] <fblade> hey guys i need help accessing my windows partition through dapper! can any1 help? i try and click on it through places>computer>97.7gb volume, but i get an error "mount: only root can mount /dev/hda1 on /media/hda1"
[10:18] <kjm> h8tred - what is in common with the sites that are causing firefox to crash?
[10:18] <willy> how can i get web cam working in 6.06 lts
[10:18] <h8tred> i tried the arts fix, but it won't install, gives me this error - E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[10:18] <h8tred> kjm: www.rocktron.com
[10:18] <goga>  hey everyone ....anjuta and monodevelop crash when i attempt to open ....the error output is : (anjuta:10471): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_set_sensitive: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed ).e.t.c.. any help please??
[10:18] <citizen> tamale: go to volume control
[10:18] <rope> Hi
[10:18] <kjm> Well then - what part of "Couldn't find package. . ." is hard to understand.
[10:18] <harisund> Really, how much of a performance gain does one obtain using a 64bit OS compared to a 32bit one
[10:18] <Warbo> jbirdAngel_: non-contiguous just means fragmented. 1.2% fragmentation is prefectly acceptable. Are you sure it doesn't ask you to run fsck manually?
[10:18] <kjm> You need flash.
[10:19] <rope> hi
[10:19] <rope> ?
[10:19] <mcphail> harisund: just enough to make 64bit tempting
[10:19] <fk6> ljlolel: lba=large block array, though i think you should be fine with type b
[10:19] <ljlolel> k
[10:19] <goga>  hey everyone ....anjuta and monodevelop crash when i attempt to open ....the error output is : (anjuta:10471): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_set_sensitive: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed ).e.t.c.. can anybody help please ?? i have a deadline until tomorrow
[10:19] <KenSentMe> Does anyone know a other good vnc client then the standard one in Ubuntu?
[10:19] <fblade> hey guys i need help accessing my windows partition through dapper! can any1 help? i try and click on it through places>computer>97.7gb volume, but i get an error "mount: only root can mount /dev/hda1 on /media/hda1"
[10:19] <on1009> kjm nope sry that doesnt work for me: the printer is setup correctly and printing from gimp and evolution but in OO i only have GenericPrinter entry and i remember from debian that there was a special OO-printer-setup to add printers to the config of OO
[10:19] <citizen> tamale: run "gnome-volume-control"
[10:20] <h8tred> kjm: i do, i just installed it from the flash site, flash loads and works fine, but freezes on that site, i was trying to use the fix on the forum, which now doesn't seem to be loading, but it said to do - sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla arts
[10:20] <wizard> I want to make the super/meta/windows-logo key bring up the run application dialog.  How do I do this?
[10:20] <kjm> h8trd : look here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138405  - Automatix should set everything up that you need.
[10:20] <tamale> citizen:  What am I looking for in it?
[10:20] <harisund> mcphail :( that's real bad.. I was wondering somebody would say "not so much" and I wouldn't feel guilty about the fact that I am not able to get my wireless LAN card working on that (BCM 4318)
[10:20] <mcphail> wizard: from gconf-editor
[10:20] <jbirdAngel_> Warbo: no im not sure, im not sure what else it said, i just know it keeps failing, my problems are more than this, i have been using windows (thats not the problem lol i dont think ;) )  but my computer screen has been going black and then i cant get it back, and holding down the power button (this is a laptop) wont work to restart the comp, so i have to unhook the battery and the AC power, , and then it doesnt always come
[10:20] <jbirdAngel_>  back up, but sometimes it does, last time i was trying to load windows and its really slow, could the problems with the screen going black and the powerbutton not working and its not starting relate to harddrive problems? or any ideas?
[10:20] <wizard> mcphail, thankyou.
[10:20] <josh> automatix...? i thought there was a big issue with security and using that?
[10:20] <fk6> fblade: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[10:20] <mcphail> harisund: the problems of 64 bit outweigh the benefits in my book
[10:20] <kjm> on1009 - hmmmm.  I'll look around my box to see if I can help.
[10:20] <djk_> could someone paste his grub.conf?
[10:20] <citizen> tamale: go to the capture tab
[10:21] <rope> Hi.. how do i restart X ?
[10:21] <kjm> josh - I have run it.  Haven't had a problem at all.
[10:21] <on1009> kjm cool
[10:21] <fblade> fk6 yeah then what?
[10:21] <KenSentMe> rope: ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:21] <kjm> rope - restart X - CRTL-ALT-BACKSPACE
[10:21] <fk6> fblade: then edit the line for /dev/hda1 and make out of the defaults a defaults,users
[10:21] <Warbo> jbirdAngel_: That sounds pretty bad. Is hda3 your root (/) partition?
[10:21] <harisund> mcphail hmm.. do you know perhaps where I could get 64bit drivers? Or could I make my wireless card work under a 32bit chroot using ndiswrapper and Windows drivers?
[10:21] <rope> Thanks! =)
[10:21] <fk6> fblade: that should fix it, i think, i still mount manually....
[10:21] <tamale> citizen:  Ok
[10:21] <robert_> is there something which can play flv video and audio under *nix?
[10:21] <mcphail> harisund: you wont get _drivers_ working in a chroot. Your kernel remains 64 bit.
[10:22] <Warbo> robert_: Mplayer
[10:22] <jbirdAngel_> Warbo:  i dont really know the answer to that question, i have 3 partitions, 1st has windows, 2nd has storage space to share between windows and linux, 3rd has ubuntu
[10:22] <citizen> tamale if it is not there, go to edit, prefernces, and enable "Line-In" "CD" "Microphone" and "Capture"
[10:22] <josh> yeah ive ran it too... but i heard back when breezy was the most recent, on the ubuntu forums it was saying not to use it due to security issues
[10:22] <skroll> is there an improvement to regular metacity when using aiglx?  even if you're not using the silly eyecandy?
[10:22] <harisund> mcphail aaaa I was afraid of that. Oh well, looks like I will wait till I am able to buy a 64bit desktop
[10:22] <tamale> citzen: They're all enabled
[10:22] <Warbo> jbirdAngel_: Sounds like hda3 is / then (just that if it wasn't, you could unmount it and check it manually)
[10:22] <mcphail> harisund: you could buy a new nic...
[10:22] <fk6> ljlolel: still enjoying fdisk? then w and q it and start mfks -t vfat /dev/sdb1 and mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb2
[10:22] <kjm> on1009 - I installed my printer through the printer admin package, and it is automagically available to oOo.   Is it a local or network printer?
[10:23] <on1009> its local kjm
[10:23] <h8tred> kjm: but i have flash installed already, and it works, just not on that site
[10:23] <ljlolel> how do I tell fdisk to add a new FAT32 partition, I do `n b`, but it doesn't work
[10:23] <goga> hey everyone ....anjuta and monodevelop crash when i attempt to open ....the error output is : (anjuta:10471): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_set_sensitive: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed ).e.t.c.. any ideas of whats going on?
[10:23] <ljlolel> it adds a type  83 (linux) partition
[10:23] <harisund> mcphail oh yeah didn't think of that :) .. let's see.. so do you have any suggestions for external (PCMCIA perhaps, or USB) wireless NICs that have native 64bit support under Linux (Particularly Ubuntu)>
[10:23] <h8tred> can anyone go to that site and see if it freezes?
[10:23] <jbirdAngel_> Warbo: okay im not sure, in the thing it said /dev/hda3 when checking it for errors that failed
[10:23] <fk6> ljlolel: so you have created the first one?
[10:23] <kjm> h8trd : Then try reinstalling firefox, or rm ~/.firefox
[10:23] <JonasCJ> Anyone who would help me get around GRUB Error 18?
[10:24] <citizen> tamale: click the speaker icon under "Microphone"
[10:24] <fk6> ljlolel: then type again n and make the second primary 160gb partition
[10:24] <kjm> on1009 - beyond me to know what's wrong then.  Sorry.
[10:24] <ljlolel> fk6, no, the first what? Ican only make linux partitions, but I want fat32
[10:24] <on1009> ok thx
[10:24] <mcphail> harisund: no experience, i'm afraid. You'd imagine the opensource drivers (such as ralink) would compile under 64bit
[10:24] <citizen> there should be a red "X" on it now
[10:24] <ljlolel> fk6, where do I type 'b' to tell it to use fat32?
[10:24] <fk6> type t
[10:24] <searayman> hello!!!!
[10:24] <Warbo> jbirdAngel_: Yes, but / must be checked automatically at boot, whilst anything else can be checked manully whenever you want
[10:24] <fk6> ljlolel: type t and then 1
[10:25] <harisund> also I have another question in general. What are the implications of compiling a custom kernel from kernel.org? Will Ubuntu or the installed apps break in anyway if I compile a new kernel? Where will I get the linux-restricted-modules and linux-kernel-headers package for a kernel I compile manually??
[10:25] <ljlolel> fk6, oooh, system id means type? thats weird
[10:25] <fk6> and then change the partition type to b
[10:25] <searayman> is there any good eye candy for us non nvidia/ati users?
[10:25] <harisund> thanks for your suggestions mcphail
[10:25] <mcphail> harisund: good luck
[10:25] <tamale> citizen, turn it off?
[10:25] <citizen> yes
[10:25] <Warbo> searayman: Enlightenment, gdesklets, composite, adesklets, loads
[10:25] <goga> hey everyone ....anjuta and monodevelop crash when i attempt to open ....the error output is : (anjuta:10471): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_set_sensitive: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed ).e.t.c.. any ideas of whats going on?
[10:25] <tamale> ok off
[10:25] <citizen> tamale, now tap your mic
[10:25] <tamale> yah nothin
[10:25] <kjm> My mixer/volume controls do not lower the volume of my default soundcard . . I have 2 installed, but the default is set to my m-audio pci card .....get cd's / mp3's etc. play fine.  Just cant turn them down within GNome.  anyone know how to fix?
[10:25] <jbirdAngel_> Warbo: okay any suggestions?
[10:26] <searayman> war whast composite, i thought u needed xgl for that?
[10:26] <fblade> fk6 i know get couldn't mount device '/dev/hda1': permission denied mount failed
[10:26] <foxjwill> hey, does anyone know anything about uvcvideo?
[10:26] <Warbo> jbirdAngel_: Not that I can think of sorry :(
[10:26] <bob007> hey.  is it possible that the g++ is not installed on my ubuntu 5.10??
[10:26] <citizen> tamale: now you said you have no sound for music and stuff, right?
[10:26] <searayman> Warbo:  whast composite, i thought u needed xgl for that?
[10:26] <mcphail> bob007: it isn't installed by default
[10:26] <fk6> searayman: there are plenty of desktop backgrounds avail on the inet, yes...scnr:)
[10:26] <Warbo> searayman: XGL provides composite, but so does xcompmgr
[10:26] <tamale> citizen: yup, no sound
[10:26] <Warbo> !info xcompmgr
[10:26] <ubotu> xcompmgr: X composition manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.1+cvs.20041109-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 19 kB, installed size 80 kB
[10:26] <mcphail> bob007: install "build-essential"
[10:26] <Phoul> Hello
[10:26] <tamale> citizen: I'm in the "sound preferences"  trying to play back the logoff / login sounds
[10:27] <citizen> tamale: go to the playback tab
[10:27] <Phoul> Im trying to play a dvd i just bought on my computer and not a single player will let me
[10:27] <Phoul> am i missing something?
[10:27] <foxjwill> Can someone help me with uvcvideo?
[10:27] <misieq> where can i get floppy images for ubuntu to boot a cd?
[10:27] <Warbo> !dvd > Phoul
[10:27] <searayman> Warbo:  so what exactly dose composite do, for eye cany
[10:27] <bob007> ok. i'll try mom
[10:27] <kjm> !dvd
[10:27] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:27] <tamale> citizen: I have master mono, pcm both turned all the way up
[10:27] <tamale> non muted
[10:27] <Warbo> searayman: Gives proper translucent widnows and shadows
[10:27] <ljlolel> fk6, i did `w`, it looked liek it worked, except for this; The new table will be used at the next reboot.
[10:27] <Warbo> searayman: They don't wobble though
[10:27] <searayman> Warbo:  where can i get that?
[10:27] <jbirdAngel_> Warbo: okay thanks is this a palce to look for help or do i need to go to a service shop
[10:27] <citizen> tamale: go to edit, prefs and enable "Master" and "PC Speaker"
[10:28] <paulb> heyall
[10:28] <foxjwill> Can someone help me with my webcam?
[10:28] <paulb> anyone know off-hand if 6.06 has Dual Core support for Intel ?
[10:28] <citizen> !v4l
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about v4l - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <fk6> ljlolel: hmmm try formatting /dev/sdb1 as described before
[10:28] <ljlolel> fk6, did that, only sdb is there
[10:28] <ljlolel> fk6, and I can see the two partitions
[10:28] <Warbo> searayman: Install the package "xcompmgr" and add a section to the end of /etc/X11/xorg.conf which says (I will use : for new line)   Section "Extensions":     Option "Composite" "enable":EndSection
[10:28] <ljlolel> fk6, i'm gonig to disconnect then reconnect
[10:29] <helfrez> whats with these latest ubuntu kernels, lotta lockups, I keep rolling newest, only to have to roll back
[10:29] <helfrez> anyone running a stco 2.6.17 to know if its any better?
[10:29] <Warbo> jbirdAngel_: Try in here. You may get redirected to #hardware if it is REALLY serious
[10:29] <eyequeue> helfrez, did you read the info about them
[10:29] <Eleaf> Is it possible to specify an xserver to use with Xnest?
[10:29] <citizen> tamale: now make sure PC Speaker and Master are up
[10:29] <Eleaf> like xorg,
[10:29] <jbirdAngel_> Warbo: okay thanks
[10:29] <misieq> where can i get floppy images for ubuntu to boot a cd?
[10:30] <fk6> fblade: can you mount it manually?
[10:30] <eyequeue> helfrez, they are said to be intentionally difficult to install, so that people will only use them if they have a specific need
[10:30] <Warbo> misieq: Check the "Installation" section of help.ubuntu.com/community
[10:30] <ljlolel> fk6, now i can see sdb1 and 2
[10:30] <fblade> no
[10:30] <tamale> citizen: master and pc speaker are already on
[10:30] <fk6> ljlolel: ok then format them
[10:30] <ljlolel> fk6, sweet, its going
[10:30] <fk6> fblade: it is  fat partition?
[10:30] <tamale> citizen: master is checked, but it's not in my list
[10:30] <fblade> no a ntfs
[10:30] <eyequeue> helfrez, dapper (this channel) supports 2.6.15
[10:31] <fk6> fblade: where do you want to mount it to?
[10:31] <eyequeue> helfrez, do you have a specific need for something other than that?
[10:31] <ljlolel> fk6, hm, how long will this take
[10:31] <Eleaf> so it's impossible to specify "Xorg" as the server to use with Xnest????
[10:31] <fk6> ljlolel: not long
[10:31] <citizen> tamale: are you on a laptop or a desktop?
[10:31] <tamale> desktop
[10:31] <tamale> msi motherboard
[10:31] <tamale> onboard audio
[10:31] <tamale> it worked fine before i installed skype
[10:31] <fblade> media/hda1
[10:31] <skroll> Has anyone managed to get around the compiz window manager slowing down Open Office redraws or scrolling in firefox?
[10:31] <tamale> but skype isn't running right now
[10:32] <fk6> fblade: try sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/(the device name) /media/hda1
[10:32] <harisund> also I have another question in general. What are the implications of compiling a custom kernel from kernel.org? Will Ubuntu or the installed apps break in anyway if I compile a new kernel? Where will I get the linux-restricted-modules and linux-kernel-headers package for a kernel I compile manually??
[10:32] <robert_> Warbo: try again.
[10:32] <ljlolel> harisund, you get the source of all the headers and compile then with yoru kernel
[10:32] <searayman> Warbo: do i put all that stuff after the line that says,  EndSection
[10:32] <helfrez> eyequeue, yes -n00bietag...just more of a general question to peopel who have rolled their own...latest string of kernels arent as stable as i would have expected dats all
[10:32] <fk6> harisund: well, might be that some devices are not recognized...if you really screw up, your system could not boot anymore....
[10:33] <fblade> i get You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hda1".
[10:33] <Warbo> searayman: Just put it at the bottom, it is a new section (3 lines long)
[10:33] <harisund> ljlolel ok thanks for that confirmation. What about the restricted modules section?
[10:33] <searayman> k
[10:33] <ljlolel> well, if your system doesn't boot, you can just switch to an older kernel
[10:33] <fk6> fblade: but can you mount it?
[10:33] <harisund> fk6 some devices? What could the reason be for that?
[10:33] <searayman> Warbo:  than save it?
[10:33] <citizen> tamale: run gstreamer-properties
[10:33] <eyequeue> helfrez, there's a reason things are packaged together into releases, such as dapper :)
[10:33] <Warbo> searayman: Yes, then restart X
[10:33] <warlock\wrk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20583 - can anyone help me? trying to make so pureftpd runs on startup of ubuntu, but it doesnt seem to work? whats wrong in that line ?
[10:33] <searayman> Warbo:  what do u mean restart x?
[10:33] <fblade> its created a folder in media folder called hda1
[10:33] <Warbo> searayman: Press ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:33] <tamale> ok
[10:33] <Warbo> (after saving your work!)
[10:33] <fk6> harisund: that you forgot some drivers, but as ljlolel already said, if you keep an older kernel handy, or in the menu.lst in grub, then you can boot to that in case things don't work out
[10:34] <Warbo> oops
[10:34] <tamale> citizen: it's on autodetect
[10:34] <fk6> fblade: sudo ls /media/hda1
[10:34] <citizen> tamale: now try ALSA
[10:34] <citizen> and press Test
[10:34] <citizen> you should hear a beep
[10:34] <tamale> citizen: i hear nothing
[10:34] <ljlolel> i hear a beep!?
[10:34] <harisund> thanks fk6 and ljlolel .. I am going to try and compile a new kernel now.
[10:34] <ljlolel> good luck
[10:34] <citizen> tamale: try OSS
[10:34] <tamale> nope
[10:34] <fk6> harisund: enjoy :)
[10:34] <knapper> Does anyone know why some people using Soulseek cannot join my chat (im using nicotine), but others can?
[10:34] <citizen> ESD?
[10:35] <helfrez> eyequeue, i think ur missing the point if the question lol no matter got a confirmation from someone already
[10:35] <fblade> i get all my windows files and folders
[10:35] <tamale> nope
[10:35] <tamale> nothin
[10:35] <tamale> i tried different combinations too
[10:35] <citizen> ok
[10:35] <ljlolel> is there any way I can screw up the harddrive permanently?
[10:35] <fk6> fblade: ok so you can mount it
[10:35] <citizen> now go to the panel, and right click, and do "Add to Panel"
[10:35] <tamale> k
[10:35] <tamale> there
[10:36] <fblade> fk6: what shall i do now
[10:36] <fk6> ljlolel: unlikely, rumors in the old days...but i don't know of a way...you can screw with some controlers, but not with ordinary tools. might be low-level formatting gives it some rucus
[10:36] <citizen> in Sys and Hrdwr, click VOlume Control, and click add
[10:36] <tamale> done
[10:36] <tamale> it looks just like the volume control i already have
[10:36] <citizen> now find where it aded it, and click it
[10:36] <harisund> fakeroot sh ./ati-driver-installer-<version>.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper  <--- I find this instruction in the ATI BinaryDriverHowTo page. What is --buildpkg? In some packages I see checkinstall, in this I see 'fakeroot' and 'buildpkg' .. which one to use and when?
[10:36] <citizen> is it all th way up?
[10:36] <tamale> yup
[10:37] <citizen> tamale: right click, and then to go preferences, on the volume control applet
[10:37] <fk6> fblade: change the user to a users in your fstab, does the line there say ntfs?
[10:37] <tamale> i see a list
[10:37] <Warbo> Anyone know how I can add an entry to the sessions menu?
[10:37] <tamale> and "select device"
[10:37] <citizen> is there a dropdown menu?
[10:37] <tamale> yup
[10:38] <citizen> what options are there?
[10:38] <citizen> and what is selected now
[10:38] <ljlolel> fk6, azureal hey, it works!!!!
[10:38] <azureal> yay
[10:38] <eyequeue> helfrez, read this paragraph: No, these are not setup for APT, and never will be. The reason being -- at http://lwn.net/Articles/187762/
[10:38] <ljlolel> fk6, azureal it mounts as usbdisk and usbdisk-1.. where is that in the command line?
[10:38] <KenSentMe> Warbo: what sessions menu do you mean?
[10:38] <Warbo> KenSentMe: GDM
[10:38] <fk6> ljlolel:  what you mean?
[10:38] <fk6> ljlolel: how to do that manually?
[10:38] <robert_> is there some codec I need to view/listen to flv videos?
[10:38] <ljlolel>   / media usb disk isee
[10:38] <fk6> ljlolel: the dirs are in /media
[10:38] <tamale> Intel ICH5 (Alsa mixer)        (selected)
[10:38] <ljlolel> i can create a symlink
[10:38] <tamale> VOIP Usb Phone                 (this is my skype usb box i would like to get to work)
[10:38] <tamale> C-Media Electronics CMI9739 (OSS Mixer)
[10:38] <ljlolel> cool, thanks!
[10:38] <KenSentMe> Warbo: you mean the gnome applications menu?>
[10:39] <tamale> citizen: I've tried all three
[10:39] <Warbo> KenSentMe: GDM=GNOME Display Manager
[10:39] <MetaMorfoziS> my friend wants to connect to the internet via wifi, what he need to workaround it?
[10:39] <ljlolel> bye everyone
[10:39] <azureal> lol cya
[10:39] <Warbo> (the login screen)
[10:39] <azureal> for me everything is in /mnt
[10:39] <azureal> because i dont like the idea of /media
[10:39] <citizen> tamale: try all of them with different settings from "gstreamer-properties"
[10:39] <KenSentMe> Warbo: sorry, don't know then
[10:39] <tamale> citizen: Ahh... ok
[10:39] <fblade> fk6: sorry do you just mean change "user" to "users" sorry bit of a noob
[10:39] <citizen> tamale: but i have to go, sorry
[10:40] <tamale> citizen: Thanks man
[10:40] <citizen> hope it works
[10:40] <ljlolel> um, how do I make it safe to disconnect the usb hddrive?
[10:40] <citizen> adios all
[10:40] <tamale> me 2
[10:40] <kjm> aha!  Ok.  The default sound card in System->Preferences always defaults to my onboard device.  If I change it to my PCI card, it will not "stick".  Anyone know where to alter things to set my default sounds device?
[10:40] <mcphail> ljlolel: unmount it before unplugging
[10:40] <helfrez> eyequeue, you have absolutely no idea what i was asking i dont think lol...i am well aware and versed at building my own kernels from source, many people have reported stability issues with the latest 2.6.15 kernels, and some peopel reported improvements rolling custom kernels using a make oldconfig with the new 2.6.17 series but recommend a fully patched 2.6.16-27
[10:40] <azureal> ljlolel, usually through 'sudo umount /media/<path>'
[10:40] <eyequeue> helfrez, sorry, better url: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-June/000150.html
[10:40] <SonicChao> I'm trying to get KDeviant to work, but it always says the command "qmake" is not found...it uses the Qt Widget Toolkit. How do I make QMake work?
[10:40] <erik1397> wow theres only like 66 people in the #ubuntuforums channel
[10:41] <[Jessica] > grrrr.
[10:41] <[Jessica] > still error 15
[10:41] <ljlolel> azureal, mcphail thanks, i'll make a button for that
[10:41] <harisund> erik1397 I don't think there are as many people as here in that channel.. why?
[10:41] <fk6> ljlolel: welcome
[10:41] <mcphail> ljlolel: you can right-click the drive icon in gnome
[10:41] <helfrez> eyequeue, moreso my question had nothing to do with those being packages for ubuntu, i can build my own debs when i need them, i was questioning the stability of 2.6.15-(24-26)
[10:41] <fk6> fblade: i gotta leave, have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=f8b0daeea93a83cb965e9ca126881d10&t=223310&highlight=user+mount+hard+disk
[10:41] <azureal> a button?
[10:41] <eyequeue> helfrez, well, if using later than 2.6.15, i thin #ubuntu+1 is for edgy
[10:41] <magneticubuntu> lo
[10:41] <helfrez> mmwuauah nvrmind due just let it go
[10:42] <azureal> what's your prob, flbade?
[10:42] <ljlolel> mcphail, oic, thanks
[10:42] <azureal> fblade*
[10:42] <helfrez> eyequeue, ur still in the wrong ballpark lol
[10:42] <[Jessica] > I'm still getting this grub error 15
[10:42] <eyequeue> helfrez, this channel is dapper-and-earlier
[10:42] <mikolan> I'm trying to modprobe hwmon but im getting "FATAL: Module hwmon not found." :|
[10:42] <MetaMorfoziS> !wifi
[10:42] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:42] <harisund> Hello! What repo should I add for fuse and ntfs?
[10:42] <magneticubuntu> Anyone running Mythtv on Ubuntu?
[10:42] <harisund> I mean, ntfs-3g on Dapper? ??
[10:42] <SonicChao> !kdeviant
[10:42] <erik1397> harisund: prolly cause people don't know the forums channel exists or they think that the logical support channel would be just plain old #ubuntu
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdeviant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <SonicChao> !qt
[10:42] <ubotu> qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.
[10:42] <sethk> mikolan, then install the module
[10:42] <ljlolel> bye foreal
[10:43] <SonicChao> Hm....I'll see what ubotu can tell me =P
[10:43] <harisund> erik1397 yeah of course... besides I don't generally see much of support going on in #ubuntu-forums .. mainly some offtopic banter
[10:43] <pm> hi, how to make ubuntu look for libraries in non-typical places?
[10:43] <byen> hey guys... what should I use for a Pentium 4- Mobile processor? 383 or a 686?
[10:43] <magneticubuntu> pm: try automatix
[10:43] <eyequeue> harisund, libfuse2 is in main
[10:43] <mikolan> sethk: I can't find it in the repositories
[10:43] <kjm> pm  : man apt
[10:43] <magneticubuntu> 686
[10:43] <eyequeue> !info libfuse2
[10:43] <ubotu> libfuse2: Filesystem in USErspace library. In component main, is extra. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 40 kB, installed size 108 kB
[10:44] <SonicChao> Nope, it knows nothing....
[10:44] <magneticubuntu> sethk: hi
[10:44] <magneticubuntu> :P
[10:44] <mcphail> pm: you mean when compiling/linking?
[10:44] <sethk> mikolan, it's part of the kernel.  You may need to change the kernel config and build modules.
[10:44] <sethk> magneticubuntu, hi
[10:44] <pm> i mean the library is installed in /opt/local/lib but the system doesn't know about it
[10:44] <mikolan> I see
[10:44] <harisund> eyequeue:  is that all I need for running ntfs-3g? How do I get the actual software from? Or is it that after installing libfuse2 I can automatically start writing into NTFS partitions?
[10:44] <SonicChao> !info libqt3-mt-dev
[10:44] <ubotu> libqt3-mt-dev: Qt development files (Threaded). In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 48 kB, installed size 160 kB
[10:44] <mikolan> Any guide on that? Bit of a noob =)
[10:44] <SonicChao> Would libqt3-mt-dev let me use the command qmake?
[10:45] <mcdonaldsguy> I have 2 sata cards in my system of different models (sil, 3ware).. the dapper installer gives /dev/sda=sil, and /dev/sdb=3ware, but after installing and booting, it swaps the assignments (/dev/sdb=3ware, /dev/sda=sil). Are there kernel boot parameters I can pass to force it to keep the original assignments?
[10:45] <eyequeue> harisund, i didn't comment on ntfs because i have no exposure to such things
[10:45] <harisund> hmmmm....ok ..
[10:45] <mcphail> pm: man ldconfig
[10:45] <sethk> mikolan, there are lots of kernel build howto's around.  check for one, check the wiki, not hard to find
[10:45] <cephalopod> Is there a channel dedicated to Ubuntu built for PowerPC on Freenode?
[10:45] <mcdonaldsguy> I'd rather not mess with my /etc/fstab file because I want the sil to always be the primary boot drive
[10:45] <mikolan> ok
[10:45] <eyequeue> harisund, other than the standard comment "ntfs writes are not safe" that everyone echos
[10:45] <magneticubuntu> cephalopod, I wish I'm on PPC :)
[10:45] <sethk> mcdonaldsguy, there is a way to rename the devices.  it's not a kernel argument, you do it in the startup scripts
[10:46] <sethk> mcdonaldsguy, I have to look up the name of the utility that you use.
[10:46] <magneticubuntu> but maybe
[10:46] <bob007> i've downloaded "build-essential_11.3_i386.deb". how can i install it now?
[10:46] <mcdonaldsguy> sethk: ok, cool.. so I'm wrong in thinking that it's the kernel that's assigning the device names?
[10:46] <eyequeue> harisund, i use fuse with sshfs though and can say i love it :)
[10:46] <cephalopod> magneticubuntu: I am too... There's a Deabian PPC channel.....
[10:46] <Brokenstein> hi is there a separate channel for newbies?
[10:46] <magneticubuntu> cephalopod, what is it please?
[10:46] <[Jessica] > heloooo
[10:46] <eyequeue> Brokenstein, this would be it :)
[10:46] <sethk> mcdonaldsguy, no, I don't think you are wrong.  this utility is simply to allow you to override the kernel's naming algorithm
[10:46] <pm> thanks
[10:46] <[Jessica] > can you please help with grub error 15
[10:47] <harisund> eyequeue the point is I really need to share files with the Windows partition and my dual booting machine.
[10:47] <tamale> sethk:  Hello again :)   You know much about sound?  citizen was trying to help me but he had to go
[10:47] <POVaddct> [Jessica] : grub error 15 indicates that a file is missing. either one of grub's own stage files or one of the files it should boot.
[10:47] <sethk> mcdonaldsguy, the naming depends on the order of enumeration of the pci bus.
[10:47] <mcphail> Brokenstein: newbies are welcome here
[10:47] <sethk> tamale, I'll try, but not for a few minutes, I have to finish up a job I'm working on.
[10:47] <eyequeue> harisund, some recommend a fat parition for that
[10:47] <mcdonaldsguy> sethk: oh, but if the utility is on the sil drive, but the kernel thinks the 3ware drive is sda, wouldn't that be a problem?
[10:47] <bob007> i've downloaded "build-essential_11.3_i386.deb". how can i install it now?
[10:47] <Brokenstein> ok im just trying to figure out how to install a .bin.tar.z wasnt in synaptic and i dont know command
[10:47] <POVaddct> [Jessica] : there should be more than just error 15. which file is missing?
[10:48] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: what's the best way to fix this? I have windows on my primary master and ubuntu on my primary slave. I don't really NEED a boot manager because I'm using my  BIOS boot menu to choose what drive to boot from
[10:48] <eyequeue> harisund, (or write to the authors of ntfs and ask them to open their specs? :)
[10:48] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: no, I just get error 15
[10:48] <magneticubuntu> cepaholod: i'm on this hardware: http://www.ppczone.org/
[10:48] <JonasCJ> How do i partition my harddisk so i can avoid the GRUB error 18...? When I install Dapper Drake Server i can only se "Erase entire disk"?
[10:48] <byen> anyone here with a Pentium4- M processor? can you guys tell me which kernel i can use? 386 or 686?
[10:48] <mcdonaldsguy> bob007: "sudo dpkg -i build-essential_11.3_i386.deb"
[10:48] <mcphail> [Jessica] : you still need a boot manager...
[10:48] <Centaur5> Could anybody tell me what this line does in a dial script?  'AT+CGDCONT=2,"IP","internet3.voicestream.com"'
[10:49] <harisund> eyequeue yeah I know, but I don't mind messing with my ntfs partition using Ubuntu (I regularly rsync my Windows partition, so if the NTFS driver on Ubuntu screws up I don't care). I also need support for file sizes more than 4Gig (burn DVDs) and I dont want to reinstall my Windows since it is working beautifully. I will try to write with it using Dapper. If I can't I will just have to reinstall Windows with a fat partition and create a s
[10:49] <POVaddct> [Jessica] : still you need a boot manager. the bios can't boot the linux kernel itself.
[10:49] <mcphail> byen: 686
[10:49] <mcdonaldsguy> bob007: but that might not do what you expect, since build-essential is basically just something that pulls in a bunch of other packages
[10:49] <byen> mcphail, do you have the same as mine?
[10:49] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: I'm aware of that- I'm just saying, GRUB does not need to worry about booting windows
[10:49] <mcphail> byen: i had a pentium-m on an old laptop
[10:49] <eyequeue> harisund, your line got cut off, but i think i got the gist of it :)
[10:50] <POVaddct> [Jessica] : i didn't say it is missing the windows boot files
[10:50] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: I know that
[10:50] <byen> mcphail, I ask because a post in the forums say that it is not advisable on a Pentium mobile.. and i dont know... I want to try 686 because i have serious heat issues
[10:50] <harisund> eyequeue yeah basically I will try once, otherwise use Fat on my Win partition. Thanks for your suggestions anyway.
[10:50] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: I didn't say you DID say that was missing.
[10:50] <POVaddct> [Jessica] : looks rather like grub is missing one of its own files, like stage1
[10:50] <mcphail> byen: it is _ideal_ for a pentium M
[10:51] <byen> mcphail, thank you.. installing it right away
[10:51] <ych> i think pentium 4m and pentium m are 2 entirely different things...
[10:51] <Brokenstein> i have a 4m lappy and 386 seem to work fine
[10:51] <linuxd00d> ych: they are
[10:51] <shadeofgrey> okay folks
[10:51] <mcphail> ych: yes, but still benefit from the 686 kernel
[10:51] <ych> ok
[10:51] <POVaddct> [Jessica] : can you get a grub shell from the grub boot menu?
[10:51] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: no
[10:51] <shadeofgrey> whats the best program for dapper thats capable of ripping entire CD's of music to .mp3's at 320kbps or better?
[10:51] <mikolan> sethk: just to be sure, I'm gonna have to recompile a custom kernel?
[10:51] <Brokenstein> lol SHOULD i be using 686?
[10:52] <eyequeue> Brokenstein, 386 is the "lowest common denomenator" and you may find 686 to work slightly better
[10:52] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: I'm booted into the live CD and have the drive mounted to try to fix this shit
[10:52] <harisund> Anybody knows here how to get Ubuntu to dim the whole screen when the gksudo dialog box pops up? That's as annoying as it gets.
[10:52] <mcphail> Brokenstein: the 386 kernel is fine, but performance will be better with the 686
[10:52] <Brokenstein> cool ill look into it
[10:52] <Brokenstein> i thought perfomance wasnt much better than win2000(without antivirus) that could be why
[10:52] <shadeofgrey> furthermore is there a like, highend setting for ogg vorbis?   my big beef with taht format is that the sound quality is so sucky on normal sized files -- the encoding on lowend ogg files blow rancid ardvark nuts
[10:52] <JonasCJ> Will someone help me out on partitioning my hdd in during the Dapper Drake Server install?
[10:53] <tuxtux> please help for headphone card audio cmi8738
[10:53] <Shart> hi! Where i can find font like on Ubuntu logo?
[10:53] <shadeofgrey> Jonas:  make your life easier and just let disk druid partition for you
[10:53] <Brokenstein> mcphail: cuz dummies like me need a fallback
[10:53] <linuxd00d> shart: www.dafont.com
[10:53] <JonasCJ> shadeofgrey: disk druid?
[10:54] <shadeofgrey> JonasCJ; yeah!  the partitioner that comes on the ubuntu install CD's
[10:54] <erUSUL> mcphail: is just the name for the generic x86 32bit kernel. i'm sure it will not boot on a 386
[10:54] <mcphail> Brokenstein: there is nothing special about the 686 kernel - nothing to be "dumb" about ;)
[10:54] <sbarn> hi everyone, does anyone remember the tux/penguin videos that some guy made? It was like 3d animation or something and had tux walking on the beach. does anyone know where I can find those now?
[10:54] <Shart> linuxd00d: thanks
[10:54] <mcphail> erUSUL: i'm sure GNOME would c_r_a_w_l on a Pentium 1
[10:54] <linuxd00d> Shart: no problem, anytime
[10:54] <Warbo> I think I've managed to add E-GNOME to GDM so I'll logout and see
[10:54] <Brokenstein> when i say dummy i mean i dont know much so 386 was an educated guess for me
[10:54] <JonasCJ> shadeofgrey: how do i use it? As fare as i see the only options when booting is to "Install on Harddisk" or "Boot on first harddisk"
[10:55] <shadeofgrey> JonasCJ; just select "allow auto partition of given drive -- just make sure ifyou can that you delete EVEERYTHING off the disk you want ubuntu on -- ubuntu doesnt run well without shitlolads of swapspace
[10:55] <ScislaC> So, it looks like my fstab is messed up... when I try to boot it has a Kernel Panic... SO, I decided to use a Live CD to see if I can fix it, but, I can't seem to mount the harddisk as writable, any suggestion? (note: not that it will matter, but it's a SAS RAID I'm working with)
[10:55] <eyequeue> !language
[10:55] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:55] <shadeofgrey> JonasCJ; letsa talk about this in private ill be able to help you better
[10:55] <Brokenstein> is it possible to change kernel and leave data intact?
[10:55] <Shart> linuxd00d: one more question: how this font named?
[10:55] <mcphail> Brokenstein: yes
[10:56] <shadeofgrey> Brokenstein; that depends on your definition of intact
[10:56] <bob007> is there any usefull how-to for installing g++ on the internet?
[10:56] <JonasCJ> shadeofgray: sure... would be great
[10:56] <eyequeue> Brokenstein, "data" as in /home/*/* ?  yes, unrelated
[10:56] <Brokenstein> yeah im sure some apps would be broke and need to be replaced but i wouldnt have to migrate my personal data, right?
[10:56] <linuxd00d> shart: im not to sure if the font name, just look around for a font that looks like it
[10:56] <sethk> mikolan, yes, but it is just a standard kernel with one configuration change
[10:56] <harisund> bob007 that package comes with the package named build-essential
[10:56] <mcphail> Brokenstein: you need to reboot after installing a new kernel, but the old one will still be there in grub if it doesn't work
[10:56] <[Jessica] > good god, this is impossible
[10:56] <khoda`> I have a question: something's wrong with my internet on ubuntu. if i type an IP address in firefox it goes really fast - but if i type the domain name it takes awhile to connect. any ideas?
[10:56] <eyequeue> Brokenstein, most apps and all home dir contents are uneffected
[10:57] <Brokenstein> ok thats a project for another day thanks
[10:57] <sethk> khoda`, your first name server isn't responding, so it waits for a timeout and then  queries the second name server
[10:57] <harisund> bob00 what did you just do? My client just reported 'DCC CHAT from bob007' and then nothing happened?
[10:57] <Awesome-o2000> khoda`, you have to disable ipv6 - my only real complaint about ubuntu is its horrible handling of DNS
[10:57] <sethk> khoda`, look in your /etc/resolv.conf file.  If there is more than one nameserver, try exchanging the first and second
[10:57] <khoda`> Awesome-o2000: it's disabled
[10:57] <bob007> harisund i don't know
[10:57] <POVaddct> [Jessica] : the problem is that you use the bios as a "boot chooser". when grub is installed it sees the primary slave as the second hard disk
[10:57] <khoda`> sethk: will do
[10:58] <khoda`> sethk: whats the command for changing the conf file again? (im new)
[10:58] <linuxd00d> khoda': when you type a domain it has to go through a dns server, so it takes a while when you type in the IP it takes you straight to the server
[10:58] <harisund> bob007 did you try to private-message me perhaps?
[10:58] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: the problem is this thing sees /dev/hdf as hdb which is WRONG
[10:58] <sethk> khoda`, I believe in dapper is it NetworkAdmin.  in breezy it is network-admin
[10:58] <Awesome-o2000> POVaddct, that happened in my old dell system - they use screwy bios
[10:58] <khoda`> linuxd00d: it shouldn't take this long
[10:58] <bob007> harisund yes
[10:58] <khoda`> sethk: no i mean how do i change the conf file using a text editor
[10:58] <shadeofgrey> JonasCJ; you still want help or what//
[10:58] <shadeofgrey> ?
[10:58] <linuxd00d> khoda`: is it taking secs or millisecs
[10:58] <ubuntu__user> helow all
[10:58] <POVaddct> Awesome-o2000: dell has the worst bioses around
[10:58] <sethk> khoda`, depends on the editor.  to use vi you would do    sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf
[10:58] <harisund> Does anybody here know how to disable the colorful screen that comes up when you reboot Ubuntu? I just wanted detailed dmesg type output instead of a graphical status bar.
[10:58] <mcphail> I have heard of people having sim,ilar problems with Dells
[10:59] <bob007> harisund but i don't know how i have to do it in x-chat...
[10:59] <harisund> bob007 just try /msg harisund whatever_you_wanted
[10:59] <sethk> linuxd00d, it's noticable, so it has to be a timeout.
[10:59] <khoda`> sethk: how do i save it
[11:00] <linuxd00d> sethk, true
[11:00] <Awesome-o2000> POVaddct, Ive never seen anything like it - Im amazed their systems work as well as they do (once all the spyware is removed)
[11:00] <Brokenstein> ya im stuck with a dell myself if only there were a portable desktop as easy to build as mAtx
[11:00] <ubuntu__user> q: i have a mag796fd CTR, refreshrate is limited  to 60Hz, i dont remember how to fix it can you help
[11:01] <POVaddct> [Jessica] : i suggest not changing the bios order of the hard disks, installing grub to the primary slave (hdc), use dd to read the first 512 bytes of hdc and write them to a file and insert this file in a section in your windows boot.ini
[11:01] <Awesome-o2000> when i did linux on a dell, I had to install grub to /dev/hdb1
[11:01] <y0shi> Can someone help me? a minute ago I had hebrew support and now it's gone I have no idea what I've done.
[11:01] <Awesome-o2000> it was the weirdest thing i ever ran into
[11:01] <y0shi> in Language Support hebrew is selected, and in keyboard layout there is hebrew.
[11:01] <Awesome-o2000> y0shi, Hebrew support in xchat?
[11:01] <linuxd00d> going for a smoke, see you all in a while
[11:01] <Awesome-o2000> sorry
[11:01] <y0shi> awesome-2000: in every program..
[11:01] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[11:01] <y0shi> no hebrew in general.
[11:01] <Brokenstein> i remember a few years back i say gateway sellin a matx with a flip-up lcd but i havent seen it since
[11:01] <Commander-Crowe> how do I reinstall the GRUB boot loader?
[11:01] <[Jessica] > is there a way I can use lilo instead of grub
[11:01] <[Jessica] > the problem here is grub
[11:01] <Awesome-o2000> ani medeber KSAT Ivrit - so I dont use it on the 'puter
[11:02] <erUSUL> harisund: in /boot/grub/menu.lst erase the words quiet and splash from the apropiate boot lines afaik
[11:02] <Awesome-o2000> when I learn more, ill use it in chat
[11:02] <harisund> erUSUL thanks again! Will have a look :)
[11:02] <y0shi> lol, that's good hebrew..
[11:02] <Commander-Crowe> or any boot loader
[11:03] <sethk> khoda`, :x
[11:03] <y0shi> Awesome-o2000, after you help me get the hebrew writing back I could help practice your hebrew:P
[11:03] <khoda`> sethk: eh?
[11:03] <sethk> khoda`, you asked how to save the file
[11:03] <khoda`> sethk: ah
[11:04] <erUSUL> harisund: no problem
[11:04] <trygg> Just a quick question, why is it that i cant find the same packages that i did when i was going with elive, through apt-get?
[11:04] <Awesome-o2000> thats right, ubuntu goes unicode, not utf-8 by default...
[11:04] <Commander-Crowe> anyone?
[11:04] <erUSUL> !sources Z trygg
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sources Z trygg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <warlock\wrk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20583 - can anyone help me? trying to make so pureftpd runs on startup of ubuntu, but it doesnt seem to work? whats wrong in that line ?
[11:04] <fyrestrtr> trygg: because elive is based on debian, and debain has different packages.
[11:04] <erUSUL> !sources > trygg
[11:05] <trygg> Well, cant i integrate them all into one?
[11:05] <fyrestrtr> trygg: depends what you are looking for, and if its available for dapper.
[11:05] <y0shi> someone please help me.. A minute ago I could write in hebrew, I dont know what I did but I cant now.
[11:05] <warlock\wrk> Anyone help me out with my pureftp problem please? :/
[11:05] <POVaddct> [Jessica] : i am more familiar with lilo. lilo can be forced to see a drive as the 1st bios drive, even if the bios tells its the 2nd drive. i am sure grub can do the same, but i don't know how.
[11:05] <trygg> Like gproftpd?
[11:05] <JonasCJ> shadowofgrey, u still here?
[11:05] <ubuntu__user> ?
[11:05] <[Jessica] > but wait
[11:05] <Commander-Crowe> Thomas is a cool guy
[11:05] <tuxtux> please help for headphone card audio cmi8738?
[11:05] <Commander-Crowe> !Thomas
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Thomas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <fyrestrtr> !info gproftpd
[11:05] <ubotu> gproftpd: GTK+ configuration tool for proftpd. In component universe, is optional. Version 8.2.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 175 kB, installed size 664 kB
[11:05] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: I have a theory
[11:06] <fyrestrtr> trygg: its available, just enable universe and multiverse.
[11:06] <Awesome-o2000> y0shi, it is odd to have it turn off for everything, Ive seen it happen in xchat
[11:06] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: I edited the /boot/grub.lst to say that ubu was on hd(0,0) and it didn't work
[11:06] <trygg> Ah, thanks.
[11:06] <Cunali> Hi everyone. I attempted to boot up Ubuntu with both the x86 and AMD64 Live CDs, however shortly after it begins booting up the GUI, it simply freezes and doesn't progress any further. I have an AMD 64 3800. Could this be a video card incompatibility? I have a Nvidia 7800 GT.
[11:06] <cowmilk> how do i do a quick search of all the pdf files i have in my hard drive
[11:06] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: I'm not changing the order of my BIOS drives at all...
[11:06] <harisund> Is there a way I can get Nautilus to *not* manage my desktop? I would rather have rox or something I guess, or even xfdesktop. I just don't want nautilus to do my desktop :)
[11:06] <cowmilk> via termina.
[11:06] <cowmilk> via terminal
[11:07] <JonasCJ> anyone else who would help me do some partitioning?
[11:07] <harisund> cowmilk do you want to search the file names, or inside the file?
[11:07] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: I'm using the _boot menu_ to tell it to _boot_ from /dev/hdb
[11:07] <fyrestrtr> cowmilk: sudo find / -name "*.pdf"
[11:07] <warlock\wrk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20583 - can anyone help me? trying to make so pureftpd runs on startup of ubuntu, but it doesnt seem to work? whats wrong in that line ?
[11:07] <y0shi> Awesome-o2000: it can happen if something is not configured properly -> meaning Ubuntu thinks I only have english for some reason
[11:07] <fyrestrtr> warlock\wrk: stop repeating
[11:07] <Commander-Crowe> How do i reinstall grub without linux installed?
[11:07] <harisund> fyrestrtr: I doubt ".pdf" will work? Will it? I thought it was '*.pdf' and not the double quotes.
[11:07] <Awesome-o2000> y0shi, maybe #ubuntu-il?
[11:07] <kjm> y0shi : have you seen - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HebrewLocalizationHowto
[11:07] <sethk> Commander-Crowe, you can use the grub-install program or use the grub utility
[11:07] <erUSUL> warlock\wrk: 'update-rc.d pure-ftpd-run defaults' does not work for you? btw when you install pureftpd i gets added to default runlevel you do not need to do it by hand. PS bum is a graphical program to add daemons to startup
[11:07] <Awesome-o2000> not may people in there
[11:07] <y0shi> kjm, as a matter of fact, yes.. and I followed the steps..
[11:07] <Commander-Crowe> grub-install?
[11:07] <POVaddct> [Jessica] : you might try hd(1,0) instead
[11:08] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: so as far as the BIOS is concerned, the system is booting off hd1,0
[11:08] <y0shi> it worked well, but this is a different problem
[11:08] <warlock\wrk> erUSUL, I run ubuntu server. And let me try that
[11:08] <cowmilk> harisund: just the file name
[11:08] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: Yeah, I just thought of that :)
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> harisund: I typed "*.pdf"
[11:08] <POVaddct> [Jessica] : hehe
[11:08] <harisund> warlock\wrk I think you will have to have a '.' in the end of the name.
[11:08] <warlock\wrk> yeah I guess that worked erUSUL :)
[11:08] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: All I have to do is edit the /boot/grub.lst and then reboot, yes?
[11:08] <sethk> warlock\wrk, try \.
[11:08] <sethk> warlock\wrk, or '.'
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> harisund: no
[11:08] <POVaddct> [Jessica] : i think so
[11:08] <warlock\wrk> end of name where?
[11:08] <harisund> fyrestrtr: there is a difference between "*.pdf" and '.pdf' right? (I mean, the single quotes and double quotes.
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> harisund: yes.
[11:08] <sethk> warlock\wrk, on the command line.
[11:08] <khoda`> sethk: i did that, but when i restart /etc/resolv.conf goes back to the wya it was before
[11:08] <erUSUL> warlock\wrk: ;)
[11:08] <warlock\wrk> ok, on the end sethk ?
[11:08] <warlock\wrk> erUSUL, big thanks :-)
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> harisund: and the bigger difference is *.pdf and .pdf
[11:09] <sethk> khoda`, yes, of course.  that's just a test to make sure that's really the problem.
[11:09] <harisund> yes, I meant with the asterix of course.. sorry ..
[11:09] <khoda`> sethk: so if i change /resolv.conf and save it i dont need to restart to test it?
[11:09] <harisund> fyrestrtr: so basically find / -name '*.pdf' , with sudo of course..
[11:09] <Brokenstein> can ayone tell me how to install a .tar.z?
[11:09] <sethk> khoda`, no, no need to restart
[11:09] <kjm> y0shi - ok.  Do you have hebrew support in any application?
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> Brokenstein: what are you installing?
[11:09] <erUSUL> warlock\wrk: no problem
[11:09] <kjm> Brokenstein : have unzip and then untar the .tar.gzip file first
[11:10] <sethk> Brokenstein, usually you extract from tar, do ./configure, then make, then make install.  It's better to use a package if one is available.
[11:10] <kjm> Then, usually there is a readme to read
[11:10] <Brokenstein> iNES emulator
[11:10] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: If this works, I'ma come back and hug you sweetie
[11:10] <kjm> but, ./configure mak then make install is the answer
[11:10] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: if not, I'll be back for more help :)
[11:10] <y0shi> kjm - no!
[11:10] <POVaddct> [Jessica] : :)
[11:10] <khoda`> sethk: now it works, how do i keep it this way?
[11:10] <y0shi> kjm - I installed XGL (working) and hebrew was still working.. and now it's not.. maybe it has something to do with it?
[11:10] <ubuntu__user> helo, i need help with refreshrate problem - on ubuntu live cd..
[11:10] <sethk> khoda`, it depends on where it gets the name server information from.
[11:11] <harisund> is there no way I can switch of the dimming of the screen when a gksudo dialog box pops up ???
[11:11] <khoda`> sethk: probably my router
[11:11] <khoda`> sethk: i have dhcp enabled
[11:11] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu__user: are you trying to install or just use the livecd?
[11:11] <fyrestrtr> harisund: sounds like something to ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:11] <ubuntu__user> im using live cd now
[11:11] <sethk> khoda`, if that's the case you should remove that name server, or change the order, at the router.  However, using dhcp does not necessarily imply that dns comes from dhcp.  You can configure it to use static info for dns
[11:11] <kjm> y0shi - ok, no need to yell :)  So, do you have any idea what happened to make it stop?  Did you reboot?  Has Xgl turned off?  I've had nothing but issues with Xgl after upgrades, so have stopped using it.
[11:11] <ubuntu__user> and i got a 6Hz refreshrate limitation
[11:11] <fyrestrtr> harisund: if that's what you are using, if not, then no, I don't believe there is a way.
[11:11] <cowmilk> fyrestrtr: thanks for the tip
[11:12] <harisund> fyrestrtr I don't even have xgl. bad luck I guess.
[11:12] <sethk> khoda`, run the network administration dialog, see if it is set to get dns from dhcp.
[11:12] <Cunali> Hi everyone. I attempted to boot up Ubuntu with both the x86 and AMD64 Live CDs, however shortly after it begins booting up the GUI, it simply freezes and doesn't progress any further. I have an AMD 64 3800. Could this be a video card incompatibility? I have a Nvidia 7800 GT. Any help would be appreciated :)
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> harisund: afaik, there is no difference between ' and :
[11:12] <kjm> ubuntu_user : 6 Hz?  How are you not getting thrown into seizures?
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> harisund: err, ' and "
[11:12] <sethk> khoda`, the correct fix is at the router.  I don't know whether you have access to the router.
[11:12] <khoda`> sethk: i do
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu__user: 6? or 60?
[11:12] <y0shi> kjm - I did reboot several times, I dont know at what point I lost the hebrew.. for now XGL seems to be working well, and Im not sure it is what causing the trouble.
[11:12] <ubuntu__user> 60
[11:13] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu__user: are you on a lcd?
[11:13] <kjm> Have you tried running an x-session without compiz?\
[11:13] <NemesisUK> Cunali, try booting with acpi=off on the boot parameters
[11:13] <y0shi> kjm - aren't there any debug commands or something?
[11:13] <y0shi> I dont really know how to:P
[11:13] <sethk> khoda`, ok, then modify the routers dhcp info to reflect the order of the nameservers that you want.  Assuming, that is, that your linux box is set up to get dns from dhcp.
[11:13] <Cunali> NemesisUK, what does that do?
[11:13] <ubuntu__user> no CRT, i hade that problem befor, and somone here directed me to change data on som file
[11:13] <y0shi> at login screen -> options -> sessions?
[11:13] <sethk> khoda`, which it most likely is, but someone might have not used the default setup for dhcp
[11:14] <kjm> y0shi - you could try $sudo dpkg --reconfigure  - - - I just don't know on which package....
[11:14] <NemesisUK> turns acpi off and if it boots fine then you may have a buggy implementation of acpi and you'll need to update your bios
[11:14] <kjm> y0shi - have you checked @ #xgl ?
[11:14] <Cunali> NemesisUK, okie, i'll give that a shot ^_^ thankies
[11:14] <y0shi> hmm.. no I dont want to do this blindly.. (reconfiguring)
[11:14] <NemesisUK> :)
[11:14] <y0shi> no, I didnt, but Im not sure it's a xgl problem. do you think I should?
[11:14] <ubuntu__user> fyrestrtr ?
[11:15] <y0shi> it seems more of a general ubuntu issue
[11:15] <Zarephath> Hey everyone...when I look in the user manager for gnome I see that my default uid is 1000 and it is ghosted so I can't change it...I need to either modify a folder on a different drive to allow me to access it, or I figure even easier just change my uid to match the folder..how do I do this?
[11:15] <kjm> y0shi - it sounds like an issue with x somewhere.  I would check in @ #Xgl to see.  My knowledge of locale specific stuff is sadly lacking.
[11:16] <erUSUL> Zarephath: change the owner of the file to yourself sudo chown -R youruser.youruser /path/to/dir
[11:16] <kjm> Have you checked in System->Administration->Language support to make sure Hebrew is checked?
[11:16] <y0shi> thanks.. I'll try.
[11:17] <ubuntu__user> ?
[11:17] <kjm> ?
[11:18] <Zarephath> erUSUL: Thanks...not sure about the youruser.youruser part...ie if the name of the folder person was foo and my user was bar then it would be sudo chown -R foo.bar /path?
[11:18] <TheGame> can some1 help me out with xchat
[11:18] <Juhaz> Zarephath, no
[11:18] <Warbo> Anyone familiar with enlightenment's shell?
[11:18] <Juhaz> Zarephath, it's user.group
[11:18] <ubuntu__user> fyrestrtr ?
[11:18] <Zarephath> juhaz: Ahhh...ok thanks
[11:18] <ScislaC> I guess I will try once more... It looks like my fstab is messed up because I had modified it and after a reboot it has a Kernel Panic... SO, I decided to use a Live CD to see if I can fix it, but, I can't seem to mount the harddisk as writable, any suggestions? (note: not that it will matter, but it's a SAS RAID I'm working with)
[11:18] <erUSUL> !anyone > TheGame
[11:19] <erUSUL> Zarephath: you can use youruser.users
[11:19] <sethk> ScislaC, which file system is on the disk?
[11:19] <Warbo> I need to change the stacking layer of a window which doesn't allow alt-right click
[11:19] <ScislaC> sethk: Ext3
[11:19] <searayman> Warbo:  i need ur help
[11:19] <Juhaz> Zarephath, also, what's the file system of the other drive? that won't work if it's for example fat or ntfs
[11:20] <Warbo> searayman: What with
[11:20] <Zarephath> erUSUL: Ok I get it...
[11:20] <sethk> ScislaC, it mounts read only?
[11:20] <Zarephath> juhaz: Actually it is hfs
[11:20] <sbarn> hi, how do I download ubuntu's kernel source? I want the source, not just the headers
[11:20] <ScislaC> sethk: yep... I tried to mount it rw but it's still read-only
[11:20] <Warbo> !info linux-source-2.6.15
[11:20] <ubotu> Package linux-source-2615 does not exist in dapper
[11:20] <TheGame> everytime i start xchat
[11:20] <TheGame> it lists 5 different usernames and my nickname and everything
[11:20] <searayman> Warbo:  u were helpign me with the eye candy stuff
[11:20] <Warbo> Ubotu doesn't handle full stops?
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesn't handle full stops? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <imbrandon> sbarn: sudo apt-get install linux-source
[11:20] <nymserver> hi
[11:20] <Warbo> searayman: Yes, but what bit doesn't work?
[11:20] <searayman> Warbo:  you told me to restart x
[11:20] <sethk> ScislaC, ok, just to be sure, when you run the mount command (no arguments) the line shows up with ro?
[11:20] <erUSUL> Juhaz: there is a group with your user's name for every user of the system...
[11:21] <TheGame> but if i change it the next time i open xchat its back to the same names
[11:21] <Warbo> searayman: And?
[11:21] <nymserver> whats the command to rename a file?
[11:21] <searayman> Warbo:  i got stuck in it and x wouldnt restart just gave me errors
[11:21] <sbarn> imbrandon, thanks
[11:21] <TheGame> how do i change it permanently
[11:21] <sethk> nymserver, mv
[11:21] <Warbo> searayman: Ah. Can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf please?
[11:21] <goochy> can anyone recommend a codec pack I can download that covers most formats?
[11:21] <searayman> Warbo:  i used another computer and got help to comment out the 3 lines we added to some file
[11:21] <Awesome-o2000> goochy, ffmpeg or libavcodec is good shit
[11:21] <nymserver> no not move it rename it in its current location
[11:22] <searayman> Warbo:  once we commented out those lines it worked fin
[11:22] <Warbo> searayman: Yes, /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[11:22] <TheGame> so no1 has an answer to that?
[11:22] <searayman> Warbo:  yea, but composite dossent work
[11:22] <Juhaz> erUSUL, I'm quite aware of that
[11:22] <digitallotus> nymserver, still mv, just mv to the same directory.... mv /tmp/test.txt /tmp/test2.txt
[11:22] <searayman> Warbo:  so what did u want me to do?
[11:22] <ScislaC> sethk: when I run just the mount command it does list it and it even has (rw) next to it... so it's trying, just not succeeding for some reason
[11:22] <Warbo> searayman: Maybe your driver doesn't support it, but I thought it was a general Xorg extension which could use any driver
[11:22] <searayman> Warbo:  so what can i do?
[11:23] <sethk> TheGame, you can delete your .xchat directory, which will put you into the mode when you ran xchat for the first time
[11:23] <TheGame> gol
[11:23] <TheGame> thanks
[11:23] <Warbo> searayman: Can you dum the Xorg config file /etc/X11/xorg.conf into pastebin please
[11:23] <Warbo> !pastebin
[11:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:23] <zzack3> hi guys, can anybody help me? I have some trouble installing kino...
[11:23] <nymserver> si it its called ddd now and i want to call it nymserver ?
[11:23] <sethk> TheGame, sorry, it is $HOME/.xchat2
[11:23] <searayman> Warbo:  whats pastebin?
[11:23] <TheGame> ok
[11:23] <Warbo> searayman: Look up :)
[11:23] <TheGame> thanks
[11:24] <fafafaf> hey
[11:24] <ubuntu__user> need some help with refresh rate,..
[11:24] <digitallotus> nymserver, so if it's in your current directory, just 'mv ddd nymserver'
[11:24] <ubuntu__user> can enyone help with that
[11:24] <erUSUL> !fixres > ubuntu__user
[11:24] <Zarephath> Crap won't work either...
[11:24] <ubuntu__user> hi
[11:25] <searayman> Warbo:  doign it now
[11:25] <ubuntu__user> i'm limited to only 60Hz refreshrate
[11:25] <fafafaf> is there a way i can mount a given harddrive as root from the unbuntu installation CD
[11:25] <jayt> I did some upgrades a couple of weeks ago and sound did not work since then I have a soundblaster audigy 2 and it used to work ok, now in the place of the start up "music" I hear a distorted version of the tune very low in volume nothing looks muted in alsamixer
[11:25] <kjm> y0shi : any luck?
[11:25] <lucordes> could anyone be so kind and take a look at my post? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1375874#post1375874
[11:26] <y0shi> yes... but weird luck
[11:26] <erUSUL> fafafaf: sudo mount -t fstype /dev/xxxx /mnt/ ?
[11:26] <Spydon> hey can someone help me?
[11:26] <nymserver> digitallotus: thanks
[11:26] <fafafaf> thats not mounted at / tho
[11:26] <fafafaf> see
[11:26] <Spydon> I need to install some music codecs
[11:26] <searayman> Warbo:  it seems slow
[11:26] <fafafaf> at time of boo
[11:26] <fafafaf> t
[11:26] <y0shi> kjm - in System -> Administration -> Login Window... I've configured X Server
[11:26] <jayt> !restricted > Spydon
[11:26] <y0shi> and added VT 1 Standard (instead of XGL)
[11:26] <Spydon> how do you install music codecs?
[11:26] <lucordes> !botsnack
[11:26] <ubotu> Yum!
[11:26] <erUSUL> !mp3
[11:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:26] <y0shi> doest that mean that both x servers are on now?
[11:26] <Spydon> oh thx
[11:27] <jayt> Spydon, the bot ubotu sent you a link
[11:27] <Phaqui> whats a good torrent client?
[11:27] <y0shi> because hebrew is working now    
[11:27] <Spydon> thx
[11:27] <TheGame> sethk, that didnt work so i had to manually edit a file in the dir
[11:27] <jayt> !il
[11:27] <ubotu>          
[11:27] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[11:27] <trygg> Hm, what can i do if ubuntu doesnt find my awe32-soundblaster?
[11:27] <kjm> y0shi -> Well, there can only be one x-server running at a time.  But, that looks like a langauge I can't read....so it must be Hebrew
[11:27] <trygg> whoa, soundcard
[11:27] <gsuveg> trygg: dmesg ?
[11:27] <searayman> Warbo:  i am having problems pastign to pastebin
[11:27] <erUSUL> trygg: isa?
[11:27] <searayman> Warbo:  i get this error "
[11:27] <searayman> Warning: unlink(/home/pastebin/public_html/../cache/recent): No such file or directory in /home/pastebin/lib/pastebin/db.mysql.class.php on line 243
[11:27] <searayman> Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/pastebin/lib/pastebin/db.mysql.class.php:243) in /home/pastebin/lib/pastebin/pastebin.class.php on line 198"
[11:27] <y0shi> kjm, yes it is.. but why would that fix the hebrew? I mean? what did I do? I was just messing things up.
[11:28] <erUSUL> !paste > searayman
[11:28] <trygg> erUSUL: i dont know, its from '96. :D
[11:28] <jayt> crimsun, you about with any time for this: I did some upgrades a couple of weeks ago and sound did not work since then I have a soundblaster audigy 2 and it used to work ok, now in the place of the start up "music" I hear a distorted version of the tune very low in volume nothing looks muted in alsamixer
[11:28] <erUSUL> trygg: ubuntu does not support isa devices iirc you have to recompile the kernel
[11:28] <Warbo> searayman: Er... I don't know what that means :)
[11:28] <searayman> erUSUL:  i knwo what it it but it aint working!!
[11:28] <TheGame> is there anything like automatix thats better?
[11:28] <searayman> Warbo:  so what can we do?
[11:29] <Warbo> searayman: Look for another pastebin on Google
[11:29] <erUSUL> searayman: use pastebin.ca but do not spam the channel please
[11:29] <crimsun> jayt: pastebin your ``amixer''
[11:29] <erUSUL> TheGame: easyubuntu
[11:29] <kjm> y0shi -> I don't know exaclty.  Perhaps altering sessions reverted your xorg.conf file ... ?  I'm grabbing at straws
[11:29] <TheGame> i see
[11:29] <TheGame> which one do u suggest
[11:29] <drew> I'm attempting to install lircd from source
[11:29] <trygg> erUSUL: Yeah, its isapnp. Just to recompile then?
[11:29] <sds> is espanish???
[11:29] <ubuntu__user> erUSUL - i'm new to all this irc ubuntu, i'mtraying the link you gave me, thx.
[11:29] <cica> hello all
[11:29] <MrPockets> how does a fella reset X?
[11:30] <erUSUL> TheGame: i haven't used either but automatix seems to get negative views around here
[11:30] <drew> And getting this error: "lircd: could not open /dev/lirc (...) lircd: default_init(): No such device"
[11:30] <TheGame> hmm
[11:30] <erUSUL> !kernel > trygg
[11:30] <TheGame> ill try easy out then
[11:30] <Cunali> Hi everyone. I attempted to boot up Ubuntu with the AMD64 Live CDs, however shortly after it begins booting up the GUI, it simply freezes and doesn't progress any further. I was suggested to turn acpi off at boot, but that didn't seem to work either. Any help would be appreciated :)
[11:30] <cica> anyone available to help with a VPN issue please?
[11:30] <TheGateKeeper> TheGame: yep, using this guide :-) http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[11:30] <kjm> MrPokets : lots of ways.  But I like $sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[11:30] <MrPockets> my toiolbar bottom side of my screen stopped showing the open apps recently, wondering how to fix it?
[11:30] <Warbo> MrPockets: With ctrl-alt-backspace. All of those girls out there might want to try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart too
[11:30] <searayman> Warbo:  ok
[11:30] <searayman> Warbo:  http://paste.uni.cc/9372
[11:31] <kjm> MrPockets : I think I misunderstood your question.  Ignore me, I am being retarded
[11:31] <jayt> crimsun, it is here, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20591 thanks for looking
[11:31] <searayman> Warbo:  did u get that?
[11:31] <trygg> erUSUL: thanks. :
[11:31] <Warbo> searayman: OK, when I said ": means new line" you made a new line in the wrong place, and kept the colon on the last line :)
[11:32] <erUSUL> trygg: no problem
[11:32] <cica> anyone available to help with a VPN issue please?
[11:32] <Warbo> searayman: http://paste.uni.cc/9373 <- That is fixed
[11:33] <MrPockets> yeah that didnt do it
[11:33] <RetLaw> soundray?
[11:33] <searayman> Warbo:  what line number is the chaneg on, i would liek to see what you did
[11:33] <MrPockets> the toolbars there, just none of the open apps show up in it
[11:34] <Qualitiam> what are Kbuild archives and how can I 'use' them?
[11:34] <DBO> MrPockets, please join #ubuntu-ops
[11:35] <olrrai> hi lots af guys
[11:35] <MrPockets> #ubuntu-ops
[11:35] <MrPockets> fuck
[11:35] <sethk> MrPockets, do you want to wipe out your configuration and get back to the virgin desktop you saw the first time you logged in?
[11:35] <MrPockets> nope
[11:35] <DBO> MrPockets, please watch your language
[11:35] <searayman> Warbo:  now that i changed that what shoudl i do?
[11:35] <MrPockets> like it the way it is, just wish my apps would show up in my lower toolbar like they did a day ago
[11:35] <Warbo> searayman: Last three lines. As well as uncommenting them I moved "enable" from line 3 to line 2 and got rid of the colon
[11:36] <Warbo> searayman: Your xorg.conf is now the same as the one I pasted?
[11:36] <feet> hiya. i seem to have a problem with logging in. whenever i log in thru kdm, it fails and returns to the login screen. from gdm, it launches a konsole session and it says bash: /dev/null permission denied
[11:36] <feet> what can i do to fix that?
 what are Kbuild files and how can I 'use' them?
[11:36] <searayman> Warbo:  yes i copied and pasted it in after deletign the one i messed up
[11:36] <Warbo> searayman: OK, then restart X
[11:36] <sethk> feet, for the second problem (/dev/null) try running gdm as root
[11:37] <searayman> Warbo:  can u kindly remind me how again?
[11:37] <feet> ... what does gdm run as usually
[11:37] <feet> you know, when youre booting
[11:37] <Warbo> searayman: Either log out, or press ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:37] <searayman> ok
[11:37] <searayman> brb
[11:37] <svu> anyone having problem with edgy language support?
[11:37] <sethk> feet, root
[11:37] <vgoltser> I installed samba, I in stalled swat and ran swat ... how can I access swat (localhost:901 does not work)
[11:37] <feet> it should then already be running as root
[11:38] <Qualitiam> what are Kbuild files and how can I 'use' (make) them?
[11:38] <feet> oops
[11:38] <Cunali> Hi everyone. I attempted to boot up Ubuntu with the AMD64 Live CDs, however shortly after it begins booting up the GUI, it simply freezes and doesn't progress any further. Though I do hear the ubuntu start up sound. I was suggested to turn acpi off at boot, but that didn't seem to work either. Any help would be appreciated :)
[11:38] <feet> so yeah, gdm is already running as root. so what can i do?
[11:38] <searayman> Warbo:  ok now what
[11:38] <Warbo> searayman: Have you installed xcompmgr yet?
[11:38] <searayman> Warbo:  i logged out then back in how do i turn it on and use it
[11:38] <searayman> Warbo:  yes
[11:38] <vgoltser> also, how can I ping a server that windows people can access as \\servername
[11:39] <orbital04> Hi, does anyone know how to get Rhythmbox to edit file properties (title, genre, etc). I know mp3's need 'cowbell' or something, but I can't even edit ogg files.
[11:39] <sethk> feet, where do you see that error about /dev/null ?
[11:39] <Warbo> searayman: Then run in a termianl "xcompmgr -cfF"
[11:39] <searayman> Warbo:  it gave me this
[11:39] <feet> well when i try to log in, a konsole session comes up (window managerless) and says bash: /dev/null permission denied three times
[11:39] <searayman> Warbo: mike@mike-desktop:~$ xcompmgr -cfF
[11:39] <searayman> No composite extension
[11:39] <searayman> mike@mike-desktop:~$
[11:39] <Warbo> searayman: Er.... I thought you added the composite extension?
[11:40] <olrrai> I have vmplayer installed and working, but when I back from hibernation I need manually run: ifconfig vmnet8 up. Anyone knows what is the script (init level) to run commnad or launch applications when back from hibernaton?
[11:40] <searayman> Warbo:  guesse not
[11:40] <feet> my only option has been to log in to ubuntu in recovery mode, log in as root, and run gdm from there to log in
[11:40] <searayman> Warbo:  how do i do that
[11:40] <feet> this is of course a bit of a pain in the rear end
[11:40] <Warbo> searayman: Try going into a console and running "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" (get to a console with ctrl-alt-f1, and into graphics with ctrl-alt-f7)
[11:40] <sds> hello como me paso a castellano??
[11:40] <cica> anyone here used strace before?
[11:40] <sethk> feet, definitely a pain.  let me check a couple of things about gdm
[11:41] <Miek> yes cica
[11:41] <feet> okay
[11:41] <olrrai> I have vmplayer installed and working, but when I back from hibernation I need manually run: ifconfig vmnet8 up. Anyone knows what is the script (init level) to run commnad or launch applications when back from hibernaton?
[11:41] <feet> it fails to log in completely with kdm and xdm
[11:41] <Raubkopierer> hu
[11:41] <vgoltser> when swat is running, I cannot access it via http://localhost:901/
[11:41] <cica> Miek: been advised to use strace to do the following: Try running under strace, so you can find out which user it tries to change to.
[11:41] <searayman> Warbo:  so do a ctrl-alt-1 then a ctr-alt-f7 then type in that command?
[11:41] <vgoltser> how can I ping a server that windows people can access as \\servername
[11:42] <olrrai> Anyone knows what is the script (init level) to run commnad or launch applications when back from hibernaton?
[11:42] <cica> Miek: where abouts or what should I be looking for in strace output to verify the user isettings?
[11:42] <Rich43> Hi, I have a old Toshiba 4090CDS Laptop.. I am having problems with a severe band of random pixels near the buttom of the screen. It was fine when it was used in windows. Any suggestions?
[11:42] <Rich43> Heres a screenshot: http://richieward.com/Screenshot.png
[11:42] <Rich43> Heres my XOrg.conf: http://richieward.com/xorg.conf
[11:42] <searayman> Warbo:  yes or no?
[11:42] <Miek> cica: could you pastebin the output?
[11:42] <Warbo> searayman: ctrl-alt-f1, type that command (in case you forget it, you can get back with ctrl-alt-f7)
[11:43] <searayman> oo ok
[11:43] <searayman> Warbo:  after i type the command then what?
[11:43] <Warbo> searayman: That should fully restart the graphics. Then try xcompmgr -cfF
[11:43] <Raubkopierer> problem: "loading essential drivers... ok \n mounting root file system... \n waiting for root file system...." and then: \n "ARLERT! /dev/hdd2 does not exist. dropping to a shell"
[11:43] <Raubkopierer> naja...
[11:43] <cica> Miek: where do you want me to paste it mate?
[11:44] <kjm> Rich43 : is 800x600 the native resolution of the monitor?
[11:44] <Raubkopierer> ../n...
[11:44] <Raubkopierer> pff -.-
[11:44] <TheGame> is it possible to use shockwave in wine
[11:44] <Rich43> kjm, yes
[11:44] <Raubkopierer> can somebody help me?
[11:44] <Miek> cica: http://rafb.net/paste/ is good
[11:44] <feet> patience Raubkopierer
[11:44] <POVaddct> Raubkopierer: did you change your hard disk recently?
[11:44] <orbital04> no Rythmbox experts out there, perhaps there is a better soundplayer/librarian out there?
[11:44] <kjm> Rich43 - it looks to me like a vertical refresh problem.  Are you sure about the Horiz-Sync and Vertical Refresh values?
[11:45] <feet> i saw a better program listed on one of the multimedia wiki pages
[11:45] <Rich43> kjm, not really.
[11:45] <Raubkopierer> POVaddct, feet its a new installation... i think it could be cause of my raid controller ite it8212
[11:45] <kjm> Have you tried at a default depth of 24?  Or 8?  Get the same problem?
[11:45] <searayman> Warbo:  ok i did what u said and it made me logg back in
[11:45] <POVaddct> Raubkopierer: i mean, is your linux hard disk still hdd (secondary slave)?
[11:45] <searayman> Warbo:  so now what command am i typing into termianl?
[11:45] <vgoltser> are there any nice samaba gui config utilities?
[11:45] <lior83> hi, can somebody help me?
[11:45] <Rich43> kjm: ive tried 16 and 24.
[11:45] <jayt> crimsun, it is here, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20591 thanks for looking
[11:46] <searayman> Warbo:  u still here?
[11:46] <POVaddct> Raubkopierer: is that one of those semi hardware raids?
[11:46] <Raubkopierer> POVaddct, yes...
[11:46] <Cunali> I attempted to boot up Ubuntu with the AMD64 Live CD, however shortly after it begins booting up the GUI, it simply freezes and doesn't progress any further. Though I do hear the ubuntu start up sound. I was suggested to turn acpi off at boot, but that didn't seem to work either. Any help would be appreciated :)
[11:46] <kjm> kk.  What is your model for laptop?
[11:46] <crimsun> jayt: that seems odd for Audigy 2
[11:46] <Raubkopierer> POVaddct, what do you mean... my english is not so good :)
[11:46] <Rich43> kjm: Toshiba Satellite 4090CDS
[11:46] <crimsun> jayt: what's the output from ``asoundconf list''?
[11:47] <Rich43> kjm: its quite old but high quality laptop :)
[11:47] <POVaddct> Raubkopierer: meins aber :)
[11:47] <searayman> Warbo: ?
[11:47] <Warbo> searayman: Hi
[11:47] <lior83> I upgraded my ubuntu to dapper and now my cdrom and usd doesn't works
[11:47] <jayt> crimsun: CA0106
[11:47] <Raubkopierer> POVaddct, lol...
[11:47] <searayman> Warbo:  so what was that command i type in to termianl now?
[11:47] <Warbo> xcompmgr -cfF
[11:47] <kjm> Rich43 : Are you sure it won't run at 1024x768?  p.s. I love the toshiba sattelites.  Had one for years before investing in an iBook
[11:47] <jayt> crimsun: CA0106
[11:47] <kjm> Rich43: Check here:http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-135.html
[11:48] <jayt> crimsun: sorry I am now debating with myself if the card type is correct
[11:48] <CyDrive> can someone help me i installed wine and windows version of firefrox how do i run firefox now?
[11:48] <searayman> Warbo:  ok so what can i do with it?
[11:48] <Rich43> kjm: it didnt like 1024x768 on windows it cropped alot of the screen off. Not tried on linux tho
[11:48] <dell500_> I just recently formated a 300GB SATA drive with a USB enclosure... the fs is in NTFS and I used the command 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc1 /media/usb-sata' but it says it's the wrong fs for some reason.
[11:48] <Warbo> CyDrive: run "wine C:\\Program\ Files\\Mozilla\ Firefox\\firefox.exe"
[11:48] <mako__> howdy all, i have a question I'm hoping someone can help- I've accidently changed /var/run/sudo to 0777 and cannot get sudo back
[11:48] <crimsun> jayt: if that's the output from asoundconf list, then it's correct.
[11:48] <mopflite> CyDrive: guessing - wine <path to firefox windows executable>
[11:49] <[Jessica] > grr
[11:49] <[Jessica] > it didn't work
[11:49] <CyDrive> okay thx
[11:49] <POVaddct> [Jessica] : still no luck?
[11:49] <Warbo> searayman: You should have shadows now, yes?
[11:49] <lior83> can you help me? I upgraded my ubuntu to dapper and now my cdrom and usd doesn't works
[11:49] <orbital04> quit
[11:49] <lior83> usb*
[11:49] <kjm> Rich43 : That page I sent you is for a different model laptop - but same screen.  Let me look up the specs of your model and see if I can help.
[11:49] <DBO> argh!!!
[11:49] <sethk> lior83, most likely it is a kernel configuration issue.
[11:49] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: nope.
[11:49] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: can I msg you?
[11:49] <sethk> lior83, I would boot the old kernel (assuming you still have it), and do lsmod to see what drivers you need.
[11:49] <jayt> crimsun, I'll certify the ca0106 - google is saying audigy SE
[11:50] <Raubkopierer> POVaddct, ?
[11:50] <dell500> anyone got any ideas? :)
[11:50] <Kyle122139> could someone help me? i need some help burning the ISO to a CD
[11:50] <compengi> how to install *.rpm applications
[11:50] <lior83> I already boot from my old kernel and there is no change
[11:50] <Warbo> !burn > Kyle122139
[11:50] <feet> you need the 'alien' program compengi
[11:50] <Rich43> kjm: it isnt a TFT screen. i will make that clear.. its the type they used before TFT
[11:50] <crimsun> jayt: does resetting the mixer levels help?
[11:50] <crimsun> jayt: invoke-rc.d alsa-utils reset
[11:50] <Warbo> !alien > compengi
[11:51] <POVaddct> Raubkopierer: i have no idea. i don't know this raid hardware (if it is real hardware raid at all...)
[11:51] <POVaddct> [Jessica] : yes
[11:51] <searayman> Warbo:  so what can i do wiht it now?
[11:51] <jayt> crimsun, no, still sounds like medium wave in the 60s with no channel :-)
[11:52] <lior83> in lsmod i see usbcore
[11:52] <POVaddct> [Jessica] : but i don't see any messages from you. did you identify with nickserv?
[11:52] <crimsun> jayt: a what?
[11:52] <Warbo> searayman: Find gcompmgr in Google, and I think xtransset is the right name for the translucency tool
[11:52] <Kyle122139> could someone help me burn an ubuntu livecd?
[11:52] <jayt> crimsun, a transistor radio in the 60's all hiss no music
[11:52] <cats> how are you gentlemen, all your base are belong to us, you are on the way of destruction. you have no chance to survive make your time
[11:52] <compengi> did someone had installed limewire on ubuntu?
[11:53] <wedTM> ~[ compengi ] ~ I did
[11:53] <crimsun> jayt: amixer output
[11:53] <kjm> Rich43 : Are you using the framebuffer X driver?
[11:53] <wedTM> it installs very easily, and works great.
[11:53] <feet> limewire and frostwire install nicely
[11:53] <Warbo> compengi: I would recommend gtk-gnutella
[11:53] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: shit
[11:53] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: I have to register here?
[11:53] <mako__> anyone have a clear idea of how to restore /var/run/sudo/ to 0700?
[11:53] <whoppix> i would like to know if anyone has some experience with WinTV tv-cards.. i have a wintv express tv card from hauppauge (chip revision D148) and i would like to know if it works out-of-the-box or if i have to get some additional drivers etc.. thx for tips and help in advance :)
[11:53] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: crap.
[11:53] <posthuman> !dvd
[11:53] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:53] <searayman> Warbo:  so shoudl i install gcompmngr?
[11:53] <Rich43> kjm: judging by my xorg.conf.. its using "trident" drivers..
[11:54] <cats> GNAA STRIKES IN 10 MINS MAKES YOUR TIME NOOB
[11:54] <compengi> wedTM, who did you install it, i have the previous version installed how can i remove it
[11:54] <POVaddct> [Jessica] : you just have to pick a password for your nick and register to nickserv
[11:54] <lior83> can you help me? I upgraded my ubuntu to dapper and now my cdrom and usd doesn't works, its not in the kernel or config files, may be its a module that not loaded
[11:54] <Rich43> kjm: i could be wrong
[11:54] <Warbo> searayman: That gives you more control over xcompmgr, but is not in Ubuntu (so look for it on Google). And I think xtransset will let you set the translucency of a window
[11:54] <Rich43> Heres my XOrg.conf: http://richieward.com/xorg.conf
[11:54] <Cunali> Any help please? :( => I attempted to boot up Ubuntu with the AMD64 Live CD, however shortly after it begins booting up the GUI, it simply freezes and doesn't progress any further. Though I do hear the ubuntu start up sound. I was suggested to turn acpi off at boot, but that didn't seem to work either. I have an AMD 64 3800 & Nvidia 7800GT. It does get some weird video artifacting, could it be my video card? Any help would be appreciated :)
[11:54] <kjm> Yes, but also, there is a kernel module for using the frambuffer. . .have you tried turning that on?  It may help.
[11:55] <sethk> Cunali, very likely it is something with the video card
[11:55] <searayman> Warbo:  so how do i install an rpm?
[11:55] <sethk> Cunali, sounds like it is actually running but you can't see it.
[11:55] <gnomefreak> sethk: you try not to
[11:55] <gnomefreak> searayman: you try not to
[11:55] <sethk> Cunali, did you try control-alt-g1
[11:55] <compengi> searayman, you need alien
[11:55] <gnomefreak> sorry sethk
[11:56] <sethk> gnomefreak, np
[11:56] <sethk> Cunali, sorry, control-alt-f1
[11:56] <Rich43> kjm: sorry how do I enable it?
[11:56] <Cunali> sethk, it runs to the point where i see the graphical ubuntu loadup screen where it would normally say like its loading messenger etc... but it doesn't actually show any of that
[11:56] <jayt> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20594 is that output
[11:56] <searayman> compengi:  warbo told me to get gcompmngr and i downloaded it and its an rpm
[11:56] <Cunali> sethk, no, what does ctrl+atl+f1 do? o.o
[11:56] <kjm> Rich43 : You can try $sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[11:56] <lucordes> could anyone be so kind and take a look at my post? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1375874#post1375874
[11:56] <tulio> does somebody know the repos for gtk+extra?
[11:56] <compengi> !alien > searayman
[11:56] <sethk> Cunali, should give you a console
[11:56] <kjm> Rich43 - when it asks about FrameBuffer, select yes.
[11:56] <Rich43> kjm: ok thanks
[11:56] <Warbo> searayman: get alien, then run "alien packagename.rpm" then double click on the deb it creates
[11:56] <dj_baggio> !converter
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about converter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <sethk> Cunali, BRB
[11:57] <dj_baggio> !midi to mp3
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about midi to mp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <mako__> !sudo
[11:57] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:57] <Warbo> *"sudo alien packagename.rpm"
[11:57] <kjm> Rich43 : MAKE A BACKUP OF YOUR EXISTING XORG.CONF FILE FIRST
[11:57] <Cunali> okie sethk
[11:57] <cats> GNAA STRIKES in 5 MINS
[11:57] <cats> PREPARE TO DIE
[11:57] <mako__> !/var/run/sudo
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about var/run/sudo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <lior83> can you help me? I upgraded my ubuntu to dapper and now my cdrom and usdbdoesn't works, its not in the kernel or config files, may be its a module that not loaded, what module should i look for? i see the usbcore and cdrom modles
[11:57] <feet> oh someone kick cats
[11:57] <kjm> Rich43 : In case it all goes to hell, you at least will have the original file to use
[11:57] <sbarn> how do I get ubuntu's 2.6.17 kernel?
[11:58] <TheGateKeeper> sbarn: there are howto's in the ubuntu forums
[11:58] <tyler_d> error on mounting after reading and following instrucitons for mounting ntfs reads: the folder contents could not be displayed... you do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hdd1".
[11:59] <sbarn> TheGateKeeper, ok thank you
[11:59] <tuliomgui> does somebody know the repos for gtk+extra?
[11:59] <tyler_d> any suggestions?
[11:59] <TheGateKeeper> sbarn: yw :-) hope you find what you are looking for
[11:59] <posthuman> whats a good cd burner for ubuntu/gnome?  I'm new to gnome, but installed it onto my laptop
[11:59] <cbx33> posthuman, they'll be a new one soon
[12:00] <compengi> posthuman, k3b is good
[12:00] <cbx33> pygi is working on it
[12:00] <cbx33> but he's gone off to bed I think
[12:00] <posthuman> yeah I love k3b..but thats for kde o.o..i guess that would work in xfce too
[12:00] <tyler_d> error on mounting after reading and following instrucitons for mounting ntfs reads: the folder contents could not be displayed... you do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hdd1". anyone help?
[12:00] <tyler_d> hard drive issue?
[12:00] <lior83> :(
[12:00] <tyler_d> :(
[12:00] <lior83> can you help me? I upgraded my ubuntu to dapper and now my cdrom and usdbdoesn't works, its not in the kernel or config files, may be its a module that not loaded, what module should i look for? i see the usbcore and cdrom modles
[12:00] <tuliomgui> someone knows how to fix the problem of the windows shuts down alone??
[12:00] <compengi> :)