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(shell 2) === ajay_ [n=ajay@59.93.242.16] has joined #edubuntu [04:21] RichEd, sup [04:39] gotama: Edit the pxeclient.cfg/default file and remove 'splash quiet' from the boot params. === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [04:44] Thanks [04:44] I am having problems with a sound card (cmi8738) [04:45] When i boot the client the messages are to fast to be read. [04:46] Do you have any idea? === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:14] Evening all [05:14] hi sbalneav [05:15] Hey LaserJock!!! [06:23] Hello sbalneav [06:23] Hello bddebian! === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi_ [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-205-234.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-205-234.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === ajay [n=Ajay@59.93.255.149] has joined #edubuntu [07:19] Yawn. Time for bed. Night all. [07:33] Burgwork, poke === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [07:42] RichEd: i got your email === highvoltage [n=jono2@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu [08:36] hi jsgotangco ... am still googling for stuff ... but not so easy to find (have found quite a lot by book activists saying reading is better !) [08:37] harry potter activisits :) also crusading against tv & playstation [08:37] RichEd: yeah its pretty hard, we're going to align now what's in the E Media program and what we have in Edubuntu [08:37] but the key is for edubuntu to complement existing curriculum [08:38] or develop a module if needed [08:39] jsgotangco: i've been tasked (yes more) to look at LAMS ... and helen (of the TSF and email) as put me in touch with the australian originator ... you familiar with LAMS [08:39] has put me <- [08:39] RichEd: yeah I'm familiar with LAMS, although honestly i forgot about it! [08:39] jeezz [08:41] but this is more suited for group collaboration [08:41] semantics comment: "the key is for edubuntu to complement existing curriculum" [08:42] yeah? we can't disrupt the curriculum [08:43] and most of these teachers aren't really computer-savvy for starters [08:46] "the key is for edubuntu to allow /facilitate suitable applictions & content to complement existing curriculum" [08:46] edubuntu will never be in the business of content [08:46] but must allow sutaible content to be located, accessed, and managed [08:47] is the curriculum defined anywhere ? [08:47] documented ? [08:47] okay - mail time ! - will send some links to you if i find any to academic improvement through it docs [08:47] and parting note for now, we also need to create a framework for peer-to-peer teacher collaboration ... [08:47] i.e. if one teacher finds content or an application that works well towards curriculum goals, they need to be able to rate it and share it [08:47] part of the medium term plan [08:55] RichEd: sup [08:55] RichEd: its DrkLrd here [08:55] hello ajay: got your mail open, just dealing with a high-priority enquiry for the boss. [08:56] i've got a plan for you, which i will send to you by email soon (next hour or two) ... will you be around to chat ? [08:57] jsgotangco: the view shared with mark was that "a biology teacher is best equipped to help another biology teacher" [08:57] TSF has been doing research in how peer collaboration can be effective, and how to initiate it [08:57] RichEd: okies [08:58] RichEd: i will be here mate [08:58] so we need to make a collaboration space teacher friendly, and then get come champions to get on board [08:58] e.g. we've been discussing how mail lists suit techies ... but forums a preferred by lay people [08:59] but as above, need to get busy now ... just popped my head back here for a sec. === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-6-76-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:00] RichEd: not at all, we're (edubuntu) is not going to create content === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=willvdl@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=willvdl@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #edubuntu [] === willvdl [n=willvdl@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=jono2@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ [09:45] 'lo will ... head buried in emails ... but hi ! [09:55] hey RichEd [09:55] 'lo Burgundavia [09:55] willvdl: meet Burgundavia [09:55] Burgundavia: meet willvdl [09:56] Have a quick tuXlabs Case Study chat while I am busy elsewhere :) [09:56] cool [09:57] RichEd: ok cool. Too bad so much else has come up (getting ready to go to LWE right now) [09:59] Burgundavia: willvdl & I will do a lot of the work for you ... managing the process as we have dedicated focus ... so you can just be nudged for input & advice & comments [09:59] sounds good [09:59] given my life might be about to change rather radically, that is good [10:00] Burgundavia: ? [10:01] jsgotangco: I am currently looking at all kinds of options in the very near future [10:01] "all" [10:02] some might involve significant amounts of time away from the computer and Ubuntu [10:02] i see [10:02] nothing is set in stone yet [10:03] im about to enter in a very complex chapter in my career so it seems too [10:03] certainly not about to abandon Ubuntu and Linux permanently [10:03] jsgotangco: if the move works out for you ... then Helen is a good person to get to know ! [10:03] jsgotangco: where are you planning to move to? [10:04] RichEd: its rather complicated, the foundation has a no-computers policy to age 9 below [10:04] jsgotangco: I agree with that idea [10:04] so the focus is highschool [10:04] jsgotangco: no problem with that ... [10:04] besides most stuff in kde-edu are complicated for kids [10:04] i let my kids have very selected access ... even though there are 4 - 6 PCs in my house, they are lucky to get 4 hours a month [10:05] Burgundavia: with a very very influential foundation over here by the biggest media company [10:06] very nice [10:06] my parents made me "earn" computer time, by spending time outside, on a 1:1 ratio [10:06] something I bitched about at the time but will do if I ever have kids [10:07] we're not even aiming 1:1 probably 2:1 or 3:1 worse [10:08] but the program should result in haveing improved student performance in math and sciene [10:11] My father was only too happy to dive into the things. He needed someone inhouse to explain it to him [10:11] Hi folks, busy morning.. [10:15] wow rodarvus is now in planet! === willvdl [n=willvdl@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #edubuntu [] === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [10:42] pin g ogra [10:50] pon g cbx33 [10:50] I've fixed the bugs in scp [10:50] working on the spec today [10:50] almost finished the kill process part [10:51] I have a branch registered on LP if you want to merge at any time [10:51] cool [10:51] ! [10:51] i'll look at it during the day :) [10:51] ok np [10:58] RichEd: ? [10:59] yes DarkLrd ajay ? [10:59] lol [11:00] RichEd: u said u wanted to talk [11:00] can you give me 15 mins ? will send you the email background, and then we can chat. [11:00] sure === tuxboy17 [n=searchin@202.91.79.41] has joined #edubuntu [11:04] hey tuxboy17 [11:04] hi ajay [11:04] bbl [11:05] enjoy tuxboy17! talk to people there are really nice guys here mate [11:06] hi tuxboy17 [11:07] hi cbx33 [11:07] :) [11:17] hi ogra [11:19] can you clarify for my understanding here: " Only xchat will be in main. Xchat-gnome is being moved to universe for Kubuntu" & "I've been told that it'll happen starting with Edgy" [11:19] can I assume that main is the same across Ubuntu / Edubuntu / Kubuntu & same for universe ? [11:19] if not, where can i brush up on mu understanding [11:20] RichEd: yes [11:20] schweet ... Burgundavia :) [11:20] main/u/multi/restricted refer to the repos, which are common across X/Edu/K/Ubuntu [11:20] ogra: we moving x-g out and xchat back in? [11:21] Burgundavia: that's a thread i picked up on in #xchat this morning [11:21] Burgundavia: Yes Please [11:21] RichEd: odd, cause x-g was moving into main for dapper and xchat to universe? [11:21] cbx33: yes please? [11:22] on the moving of xchat back in [11:22] both are crap, tbh [11:22] this thread all started for me when i was using xchat under win and when i moved to ubuntu, i started asking dumb questions about why the interface was suddenly so kak [11:22] GNOME has a troubled history with irc clients [11:23] then discovered that a "fresh user like me" would be let to beleive that the xchat he searched for and installed was the real deal [11:23] led to believe [11:24] and only when i checked [x] unsupported applications did the xchat search reveal the xchat option as well as xchat-gnome [11:25] found myself in the middle of a big debate ... some say xchat-gnome is easier for the rookie to learn ... most say xchat has a superior interface and is more intuitive ... and not much more difficult to come to terms with [11:25] both have issues [11:25] both have nice features [11:26] so that is the end user perspectrive (from my experience) and although i did not motivate the bug request that i believe has led to the swop, i'm happy to see it [11:26] well, neither are installed by default [11:27] nope, agreed, but my initial search & install led me down the unexpected (did not want to say wrong) path [11:27] as a matter of interest, is there an equivalent of xchat-gnome under windows ? [11:27] mirc? [11:28] (because i am speaking as a windows convert ... and that is a big part of our target audience) [11:28] so we want the old experience to match the new experience [11:28] right [11:28] xchat-gnome does not look or feel like mirc under windows [11:28] have you seen what Userful do with DiscoverStation, to match the windows interface? [11:28] I personally hate it, but it is an idea, if we want to go down that path [11:29] the lack of permanent channel user window was my biggest b!tch [11:29] indeed [11:30] and in IRC terms, no permanent channel user window is a buit like flying blind ... who's here, who's away, who's ops [11:30] the x-g people have their own ideas about things [11:30] nope ... haven't seen userful ... got a link or ref ? [11:31] let me find you one. Our (Userful's) website is a mess [11:31] tx. [11:31] RichEd: http://www.softpedia.com/screenshots/DiscoverStation_3.png [11:32] http://www3.userful.com/images/devices.gif [11:32] with menu open [11:35] Burgundavia: forgive me if this is a dumb question, but doesn't that look pretty much like Kubuntu (and Kubuntu is imho a very slick'n'sexy look'n'feel) ... what is difference in goal ? (apart from the KDE apps) [11:36] DiscoverStation is for public computers, like tuxlabs or in libraries [11:36] it is GNOME, but hacked to look like Windows === nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:0:1ce:c01d] has joined #edubuntu [11:37] 'lo nexu :) [11:37] hi === JoergD [n=joerg@ACD069B3.ipt.aol.com] has joined #edubuntu [11:40] okay Burgundavia point taken ... lay person question : from a dev point of view, how difficult is it to "lay a new menu skin" on top of say Edubuntu (more ...) [11:41] i.e. same apps under the desktop, but different menu layout, i.e. different tree groupings of shortcuts, but pointing to same executables ? [11:41] or is this what userful is ? [11:43] the reason i ask is that a sidebar conversation with sabdfl at one point went into the possibility of a teacher switching all desktops into GRADE 1 view ... where the apps / content now appeared under a subject tree arrangement === tuxboy17 [n=searchin@202.91.79.41] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [11:44] Burgundavia, ?? [11:44] RichEd, hi [11:44] and then when the next class arrive, switch to GRADE 3 ... etc. [11:45] hi ogra ... send a mail to matt re hack fest ... additional inforamtion he was not aware of in a #canoncial chat ... should support your "application" for approval [11:45] information <- inforamtion [11:45] i think he already agreed [11:45] at leats thats what jammcq told me [11:45] he also said he's not sure if he can come himself, i havent heard anything different yet [11:46] okay ... in my log search this morning, you last said you had still to ask ... my mail to matt was around whether he would be there so we could have a 3 way [11:46] (because you mentioned to meet him) [11:46] yeah [11:46] we all would love to see him there ;) honestly :) [11:46] we spoke about that in #canonical, and he was more interested in trying to make a plan after he heard about the expanded attendee list [11:46] ah [11:47] so my nudge may rock him over and in === ogra reads scrolback in #c [11:48] cc'd you on the email ... still only an outside chance he will come, but it is now floating higher in his priority list === ogra smiles about "original fedora ltsp" :) [11:49] i think they dont even have any "official" package for it :) [11:50] thats why its so important to have them there ... they shall adopt the ubuntu model ;) [11:51] to avoid me embarrasing myself in front of the honourable matt ... what's the 10 second explanation for the difference between red hat & fedora ... w.r.t. LTSP ? [11:51] and he's right, it will be *very* close to release ... i'll have to do a lot of edubuntu work alongside while we're there [11:51] fedora is a community driven project [11:51] i've done a wiki on the two ... but want LTSP specific points [11:52] redhat grabs their work, puts the commercial stuff on top and rebrands it [11:52] so did fedora community help with LTSP, or RedHat organisation ? [11:52] it was jim who started in no ? [11:52] started it, no ? [11:52] (well thast a bit harsh explained but essentially what they do) [11:52] LTSP was never in fedora or redhat [11:53] if you wanted to install it, you hade to grab premade packages from ltsp.org [11:53] eric was the guy who merged redhat and ltsp to become k12ltsp [11:53] but the LTSP that jim started (ltsp.org) originally worked with redhat o/s ? [11:53] (with added edu apps and many additional scripts) [11:53] yes [11:53] they did their development on top of redhat [11:53] and redhat is linux, and now LTSP is moving to debian, which is our core [11:54] and offered rpm packages on ltsp.org [11:54] but to my knowledge it was never integrated into redhat/fedora [11:54] rpm ? the last rpm i heard was 33 and 45 and 72 (vinyl days) [11:54] eric is the key part here, since he pushed for integration, found people who had the same inerest etc to get it ready for redhat [11:54] ogra: wondering about xhcat and x-g in main and universe, that is all [11:55] RichEd: red hat equiv to .deb [11:55] s/redhat/redhat based distros/ [11:55] rpm = redhat package manager [11:55] ahhh [11:55] also used by SUSE and Mandriva, amongst others [11:56] Burgundavia, but you mentioned it as a decision of kubuntu ... [11:56] (xchat) [11:56] no, I didn't, riched [11:56] it [11:56] ah, yes [11:56] here: RichEd: Heh. I filed a wishlist bug 2 days ago on Launchpad about xchat being put into main for Kubuntu instead of xchat-gnome. I've been told that it'll happen starting with Edgy [11:56] well, as long as nobody steps up to maintain x-c, i guess we'll have to live with x-g in main [11:57] from #xchat 300 mins ago [11:57] 30 mins [11:57] thats weird [11:57] i wouldnt see a reason wh kubuntu would pull gnome software to main :) [11:57] *why [11:58] they have their own IRC proggy ... [11:58] (konversation) [11:59] seb128 maintains it, and afaik he is in favor of xchat-gnome ... [11:59] but he might have reconsidered [11:59] is there no xchat package maintainer atm ? [12:00] i though evo is doing it [12:00] there is no specific xchat maintainer for ubuntu main atm [12:00] hmmm how can i become one [12:00] there are several small issues with the debian/rules of xchat .deb atm [12:00] become a motu (see #ubuntu-motu for it) and work a while in universe ... [12:01] yeah i'm in the motu [12:01] nexu: first you get a chicken [12:01] after some time working with motu you can apply for main maintainership [12:01] Burgundavia: lol ? i'll just go to KFC man [12:01] nexu: that isn't chicken [12:02] Burgundavia: i would believe you if i was going to the chinese [12:02] ogra: ok [12:03] RichEd: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/edubuntu-dynamic-menus [12:04] i'm not sure this one will make it ... [12:05] Burgundavia: echoes of our conversation :) if not for inclusion now ... good to know topic is open [12:06] RichEd: it has been talked about for a while [12:07] ogra: a great enquiry this morning ... [12:07]

[12:07] The indicative number of machines distributed in 2300 public schools and running on Linux by the end of 2008 is 30.000. We are looking forward to at least 3 year contract with attractive conditions for upgrade and technical support, that might include FLOSS center, mirror download sites, etc. [12:07]

[12:07] in the running: Suse, Mandriva and Ubuntu [12:07] off the table: fedora [12:09] I see no advantage to Mandriva over either Suse or Ubuntu. It offers neither the most up to date software, nor the most stable [12:09] where is that ? [12:09] RichEd: in which country is taht? [12:10] Suse is a commercial product ... [12:10] mandriva doesn't even offer free version anymore afaik [12:10] ogra: there is opensuse. === maning [n=COSCA@203.87.151.226] has joined #edubuntu [12:10] opensuse is too crackful, with no clear roadmap [12:10] well, thats why its open :) [12:10] yep ... russian region ... don't want to throw specific client info about in a public channel [12:10] its like a playground for NLD [12:11] much like Fedora [12:11] well kinda [12:11] 1st prize i think for the client is free s/w but paid support [12:11] fedora has more strict guidelines tho [12:11] which puts us up in the top rung [12:11] well, personally i think mandriva is quite overpriced [12:12] thining around propose: ubuntu hosting web, mail, f/w, cache, mirror etc. - commercial support contract with montreal [12:12] thinking [12:13] s/ubuntu/canonical [12:13] ;) [12:13] and edubuntu in schools - need to come up with a new support arrangement with montreal, maybe rope in highvoltage for some classroom level suport ? [12:13] ++ [12:13] i.e. build a model for the new contract type [12:14] will be working on a mail to bizdev people ... ogra & rodarvus will be in the lop [12:15] nice test case to build a proposal, identified target, identified competitors, large scale, moral support for the software founded by the cosmonaut === jsgotangco listens [12:21] well, off to catch my flight [12:21] cya all [12:24] good morning [12:24] rodarvus: hey! [12:25] hello! new here. [12:25] morning rodarvus === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [12:27] jsgotangco, you have wite access to the website, right ? [12:28] hey jsgotangco, ogra :) [12:28] ogra: i believe so, i dont remember... [12:28] ogra: i think some parts yeah === jsgotangco has to remember his credentials [12:28] elom just said there is a typo somewhere [12:29] ogra: "Many people around the world excercise this right." ==. exercise [12:29] i got 2 emails about typos [12:29] Hello? Is Pysycache http://www.pysycache.org/en/index.html included in the edubuntu dapper distro? === jsgotangco checks [12:30] doesnt look like anyone has packaged it [12:31] but there is a debian sourcepackage on the website, so it should be possible for some fellow mou [12:31] *motu [12:31] it looks cool for very young kids in learning how-to-use mouse much like some of gcompris. [12:31] ogra: what page is that? im in the cms now [12:32] jsgotangco, good question :) [12:32] lol [12:32] front page [12:33] this is also cool! http://www.matemania.no/matemania_m/index2.html 'though I can't understand a thing. [12:33] fixed [12:33] thanks ! [12:34] im looking for the other typos [12:36] heh! it's all highvoltage's typos! [12:36] :D [12:37] more typos? :( [12:38] heh its alright [12:38] wish those who emailed said directly where it is though [12:41] just sent email fo thanks to those who spotted [12:41] meh [12:42] front page has 328,000+ views [12:42] nice ! [12:42] we should have a party when it's 1000000 === bimberi [n=dave@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu [12:43] top page after homepage are screenshots [12:43] that's a good thing :) [12:43] yeah [12:44] ill do cleanup later [12:47] we'll have to do new screenshots as well [12:47] as soon as we have seen some new artwork :) [12:51] sure [12:53] laterz [12:58] RichEd: u there? [12:59] yep ... did you get my mail ? [01:00] yups thanks mate [01:01] does it make sense ? it could be a small start, with a high profile success for all of us if we can make progress === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu === Petaris [n=Petaris@216.56.37.162] has joined #edubuntu === JanisLee [n=JanisLee@201-25-141-4.ctame704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:09] ogra: ping === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu [02:16] ogra: pingie 2 [02:17] ok, gotta get ready for woek, be on later. === th1a [n=hoffman@pool-64-223-19-28.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=jono2@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ [02:33] hello mr schooltool :) nice to see you [02:33] just sent you an email 10 mins ago [02:35] highvoltage: either you were ignoring me or you timed out on me ;) i have a window full of talking to myself [02:35] RichEd: it seems like it's the latter [02:36] RichEd: can you copy.paste it again in that window? [02:36] will do ... bit of a ramble, but can you give me 5 mins now to get some things across === th1a [n=hoffman@pool-64-223-19-28.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra is away for 1h or so ... i have a code review for sbalneav ready in case he shows up before ... === th1a [n=hoffman@pool-64-223-19-28.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=willvdl@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd -> 1 hour lunch errands === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [03:09] ping ogra [03:09] finished kill on scp [03:09] with auto refreshing proc list too :p [03:09] cool :) [03:10] working on vnc next [03:10] I need some bzr advice [03:10] I have a branch [03:10] which I publish via rsync on the net [03:10] I now have another machine and I want to work on the same branch [03:10] so two machines working on the same branch [03:11] with it being published via rsyncing to a web server [03:11] any ideas? [03:15] cbx33: you might recall me mentioning "the cacophony of the playground" last week - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSounds [03:18] bimberi, yes === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [03:41] Morning all [03:41] ogra: ping [03:42] sbalneav, pong [03:42] pitti did a code review [03:43] so we have the first of many iterations until it suits him :) [03:43] Oh, cool. I liked the way he did the spawn in his pmount, so I "stole" it :) [03:43] Well, sure. What's he suggest? [03:43] many things :) [03:44] he starts off with missing gpl/copyright statement :P [03:44] then we shouldnt have the i18n stuff in the headers ... sinc ewe dont/wont use them in such a backend proggy [03:45] the usage message needs to use %s instead of %d [03:45] he doesnt like the {become,drop}_root() functions at all ... we shall either drop them completely or only use them for the getopt [03:46] Oh, did I get a %d in there? heh, typing too fast. Didn't check the useage message :) [03:46] well, most stuff is trivial ... [03:46] fork() shudl rather be pid_t pid = fork() [03:46] Well, we NEED to become root to make the directory and do the mount. [03:47] between execl and exit of the mount command there should be a perror [03:47] no, we are root already, the binary is suid root, isnt it ;) [03:47] heh, well, if he doesn't like that bit, he should look at pmount/utils.c where I stole it from :) [03:48] so we *could* drop privileges *if* we fix the {become,drop}_root() functions, but we could leave that out completely as well he said [03:48] same fork() comment for the unmount stuff [03:49] in main() is a declared but unused int len = 0 [03:49] just becase the binary's got the setuid flag set, doesn't mean you've become root. It just means you can RAISE your privs. [03:49] yep [03:49] but uid will be 0 [03:49] (no sure if we'd need to raise euid [03:50] ) [03:50] and this will be running as the user, correct? So the userid will be non-root. [03:50] gimme 2 secs, work ping [03:50] case 'u' should have umount = 1 instead of umount++ [03:51] and the "unknown option" string is missing the actual option :) [03:51] for: if (optind < argc) he asks if it shouldnt be < argc-1 [03:52] he asks for s/PATH_MAX/sizeof(mediamount)/ [03:52] (everywhere) [03:52] according to him thats more robust [03:52] we should check pwent->pw_name for slashes [03:53] and we shouldnt chown the dir we create, mount will make it inherit the ownership from the /tmp mount [03:53] thast it [03:53] not much for a typical pitti review ;) [03:54] (he's a nitpicker, but thats why he is our security guy) [03:54] ;) [03:55] oh, and he promised to do the next review in english, so i dont need to translater everything :P [03:55] *translate [03:56] i can write a patch during the day if you want that fixes most of the complaints ... === ogra wonders if sbalneav fell over by that sheer amount of complaints for a 100 line code snippet [03:58] nah, no problem, gimme 10 minutes, I'll fix things up. [03:58] i know pittis reviews are quite shocking mostly :) === ogra remembers having to do five or six iterations of a 30 line hal addon he once wrote, pitti had more and more complaints ... [04:01] ogra the bzr repo is updated and kill functionality added, but beware the working tree that is on the page is not updated === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [04:04] ogra, the proclist updates too :p [04:04] cool [04:04] even when you have selected a process [04:04] the updates keep happening [04:05] without cncelling the selection ? [04:05] yes [04:05] *cancelling [04:05]