/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2006/08/15/#kubuntu-devel.txt

=== jjesse [n=jjesse@12.45.200.34] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ooh,]
=== freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.160.148] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== leonardovaz [n=lmvaz@201.21.227.108] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel
bddebianHowdy01:27
DaSkreechwoot01:32
jjessewoot what?01:32
bddebianHe's an owl ;-)01:33
DaSkreechIt's a hoot!@01:40
bddebian:-)01:40
=== superstoned [n=supersto@168-234.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel
imbrandon...03:30
bddebian....03:33
DaSkreech.....03:34
=== kwwii_ [n=kwwii@70.230.155.207] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel
imbrandonquiet night ..... i guess thats good04:00
jjesseeveryone's asleep :)04:00
DaSkreechZZZzzzZZzzzzzzzz.......04:01
DaSkreech*burp*04:01
imbrandonheh yea but there is SOME traffic most of the time , hehe04:02
imbrandoneven u-devel and -motu are slow ;)04:02
bddebianHey, speak for yourself ;-P04:04
imbrandonhehe04:04
jjesseisn't this week a big holiday for europe?04:10
bddebianIsn't EVERY week a holidy for Europe? ;-P04:11
DaSkreechTouche04:11
imbrandonlol @ bddebian , +104:14
=== NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-163-10.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.160.148] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel
DaSkreechHi Hobbsee05:15
Hobbseehi all05:16
Hobbseehi DaSkreech :)05:16
DaSkreech:-) And that prompts me to leave05:16
Hobbsee:( no05:16
DaSkreechUmm ok I can wait around for a few more minutes05:17
DaSkreechSomeone is starting a folding@home kubuntu group05:17
Hobbseeoh nice05:18
DaSkreech Just so we can beat on the Ubuntu one05:18
DaSkreechhttp://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=4510405:18
DaSkreechUbuntu05:18
DaSkreechhttp://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=5123805:18
DaSkreechUs05:18
imbrandonheh we're a little behind05:20
Hobbseei dont think we'll ever beat them, nor should we want to.05:21
DaSkreechYeah :-) So if anyone feels like saving Humanity ( and beating up on Ubuntu) please feel free05:21
Hobbseewe're a little down on people :P05:21
imbrandonyea we whoudl realy combine them05:21
=== DaSkreech takes the one struggling fighting Kubuntite and drops her in the Ubuntu bucket
imbrandonhehe05:22
Hobbseeimbrandon: they in effect *are* combined.  it's bad for us to be segregated off, and it's something that we need to change.05:22
Hobbseehaha05:22
imbrandondepends on the thing we're talking about stuff like this yea05:23
DaSkreechHobbsee: See the main Kubuntu channel :)05:23
imbrandonsome things are better togather some better apart ;)05:23
Hobbseeheh05:24
Hobbseeand Riddell spelt my nick wrong!!!!05:25
imbrandonlol05:25
DaSkreechYou are still bitter over that huh?05:25
Hobbseeno05:27
Hobbseei'm just surprised that he did it again 05:27
DaSkreechCool 6.06.1 got Distrowatched05:28
DaSkreechI am as well FWIW05:28
=== Hobbsee is still reading the meeting
Hobbseethis is cool :)05:29
DaSkreech:-)05:29
DaSkreechOh Hobbsee did you see the It goddesses?05:32
HobbseeDaSkreech: the IT goddesses?05:32
=== Hobbsee is far from a goddess.
DaSkreechhttp://www.itgoddess.info/calendar.htm05:33
Hobbseeohh...yeah, i saw that a while ago, iirc05:33
Hobbseeyeah05:33
DaSkreechhaving a tiny debate about i tnow05:33
=== Hobbsee has an opinion on it.
DaSkreechYea or Nay?05:34
Hobbseei, and a lot of other woman, fight very hard *not* to be viewed as a sex object.  this really does seem like a step in the wrong direction.05:35
Hobbsees/woman/women/05:35
DaSkreechThat's what I figured05:36
DaSkreechhttp://www.utasce.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3189&sid=d879147dcdb63d0c9dc4fe81920102a9#318905:37
DaSkreechFrom one of our Female members05:37
DaSkreechWell yeah It's obvious if you read that :)05:37
Hobbseeheh05:38
crimsunI venture the vast majority of computer users slip into a pseudo-[ if not outright] puerile mode. Not that it's an excuse, but it happens because we tend to be lax about most things.05:38
crimsunObjectification occurs from the top of the hierarchy downward if you consider the stratification we have (a leader, minions, and so on).05:39
DaSkreechSo minons never objectify if the leader does not?05:40
crimsunthat's a bit of a leap05:41
=== Hobbsee understood absolutely *none* of what crimsun just said.
imbrandonLOL05:42
DaSkreechI got leader and minions05:42
Hobbseei mean, i sort of did, but it was more complicated and confusing than my recent physics lecture!05:43
=== neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== DaSkreech missed the one inept guard
Hobbseecrimsun: you're saying that if the leader views a group of people in a certain way, the rest of the team will follow, and do the same thing?05:43
DaSkreechPfft Physics is easy when compared to ...<chooses random word> Stratification 05:43
Hobbseeheh05:44
DaSkreechWell wanted to get someone else's e-opinion05:45
DaSkreechHow did I type that?05:46
DaSkreechTypo even :-P05:46
imbrandonlol05:46
Hobbseesigh.  the later stuff in the meeting is exactly how we should never let kubuntu, or any other team run.05:47
=== Hobbsee is happy that we have better management than that.
DaSkreechThe I'd pose for the calendar but that's cause I'm hot kind of threw me but then  I guess I should 't have been that surprised05:47
Hobbseeheh05:48
crimsunHobbsee: not precisely. We have a sort of self-perpetuating problem in the FLOSS world (not that it's limited to FLOSS, but for the sake of examination here...)05:48
Hobbseeright05:48
Hobbseeoh dear.  the example in the meeting is *exactly* what i never want to happen for kubuntu, or any other team.05:50
DaSkreechcrimsun: What's that?05:50
crimsunPart of the problem is that we embrace a sort of stratification that's both necessary for security (core-dev vs. dev vs. member vs. non-member), but that same mentality also perpetuates the myth of "stronger is better". Since we tend to model virtual societies on real life (RL), we tend to fall back on what we "know best."05:50
=== Hobbsee has seen such teams (that she hasnt been involved in) explode like that.
imbrandoni guess i need to read the log, i dident catch the meeting05:52
Hobbseehttp://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-meeting-2006-08-14.html05:53
Hobbseeimbrandon: ^05:53
Hobbseecrimsun: true that.05:53
Hobbseeyay!  apt wants to remove adept,etc!05:55
=== Hobbsee contemplates letting it.
imbrandonhehe yea adept needs a rebuild , ABI change or soemthing05:55
Hobbseeapt and aptitude, in fact05:55
=== Hobbsee cant push that :(
DaSkreechYeah that last par tdoes seem dodgy06:11
DaSkreechAny way I'm going to bed06:11
DaSkreech Night06:11
bddebianGnight DaSkreech06:22
imbrandonohh man that was nuts06:22
=== imbrandon just finished reading the CC meeting logs
=== Parkotron [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-113.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== Parkotron [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-113.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== _neoncode [n=neoncode@88-107-229-227.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel
hungerCould somebody please upload cmake 2.4.3? It will be the min. required version to build kde4 in 2 weeks.09:17
hungerThanks!09:17
imbrandonhunger: yes Riddell will make sure kde4 will build in edgy 09:19
imbrandonhrm cmake is in universe? i can do that i guess09:20
imbrandonhunger:  has 2.4.3 hit debian sid yet ?09:20
hungerimbrandon: No idea, I'll check, one sec.09:21
imbrandoni just did, it has09:21
hungerimbrandon: Just read a mail that 2.4.3 will be required on kde-devel:-)09:21
imbrandoni'll look and see if it needs a merge or sync09:21
hungerimbrandon: Thanks!09:21
crimsunnot much to read.09:23
crimsun     cmake |    2.4.2-1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages09:23
=== Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel
nixternalmoins Hobbsee09:23
crimsun     cmake |    2.4.2-1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Sources09:23
imbrandonyea dosent look like it has a delta09:23
imbrandonits not on the merges list yet but i could request a sync then09:24
Hobbseehi nixternal 09:24
Hobbseetuesdays are evil, and should be banned.09:24
imbrandonheya Hobbsee09:24
crimsunimbrandon: it wouldn't be on the merges list.09:24
imbrandonyea true09:24
crimsunnot a merge, hence not on the merges list.09:24
imbrandonheh yea if no ubuntu delta no merge hehe09:25
Hobbseeanyone got a spare car?09:26
imbrandonhunger: bug #56419 reported, should be sync'd to edgy in less than ~24 hrs ( approx ) , sometimes less09:28
UbugtuMalone bug 56419 in cmake "Please sync cmake 2.4.3-1 from Debian unstable" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5641909:28
=== raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel
crimsun(that depends on an overworked Scott)09:32
Hobbseetrue09:33
hungerimbrandon: Great!09:34
imbrandonheh09:34
hungerimbrandon: Then it will be in place before kde4 requires it;-)09:34
imbrandonyea it should definately hit before the 2 weeks , even if scott is busy ;)09:35
=== Hobbsee wonders if/how she'll get home tonight.
imbrandonno car?09:36
crimsuncars are for wimps. Real BOFHs live in computer labs.09:36
Hobbseeimbrandon: oh i have a car.  it starts.  but it wont go backwards or forwards.09:37
imbrandonouch 09:37
Hobbseeexcept for incredibly slowly09:37
=== chmj [n=chmj@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== el [n=konversa@u40-30.dsl.vianetworks.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== apachelogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== javier [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== apachelogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== OculusAquilae [n=oculus@pD950B8E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== apacheLAGger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== apacheLAGger is now known as apachelogger
=== rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #kubuntu-devel
raphinkhi 01:07
raphinkRiddell: do you think it's possible to introduce string variables in a moodin ksplash?01:07
raphinkto display random sentences at boot01:07
Riddellraphink: it would mean a patch01:08
raphinkyes I guess01:08
raphink:s01:08
raphinkoh talking about a patch01:08
raphinkI need to modify the konqueror about page01:08
raphinkand I saw that I have to patch the source and this is obviously an issue01:08
raphinkso we've been wondering, with some other devs01:08
raphinkif it would be possible to patch konqueror so it uses .desktop files for the konqueror about page01:09
raphinkmaybe the way systemsettings deals with its modules01:09
raphinkhaving a general xml layout01:09
raphinklisting desktop files to include01:09
raphinkand having each entry as a desktop file01:09
raphinkwith an icon, short text, long text and command (link)01:09
Riddellprobably could, although startup time is an issue for about:01:10
apacheloggerraphink: is there an easy way to get a package built with GCC 3.4 instead of 4?01:10
raphinkRiddell: the about page currently requires to read mo files for translation, would using desktop files make it really slower? 01:11
raphinkapachelogger: no idea sorry01:11
apacheloggerRiddell: you know a way?01:11
Riddellapachelogger: install gcc-3.4 and set CC=gcc-3.401:11
apacheloggerthx :D01:11
raphinkRiddell: note that such a modularization of the about page would also allow Kubuntu to not patch konqueror but add desktop files in kubuntu-default-settings instead01:11
raphinkand would ease derivatives01:12
Riddellraphink: sounds nice01:12
Riddellbut the about page is more than just konqueror01:12
raphinkhow do you mean?01:12
Riddellit's also khelpcentre, kcontrol, kontact, kmail and kbugbuster01:12
raphinkwell sure01:12
raphinkhmmm01:13
raphinkreally?01:13
raphink:s01:13
raphinkI don't get that01:13
raphinkI'm talking about the page that opens in konqueror by default01:13
Riddellme too01:13
raphinkthis one01:13
raphink /usr/share/apps/konqueror/about/launch.html01:13
raphinkwell this file is only the layout though ;)01:14
raphinkbut you get the point01:14
raphinkI don't see where this page is used in other apps01:15
Riddellit's not, each application uses the same artwork but implemented differently01:17
raphinkok01:17
raphinkbut I don't want to modify the artwok01:17
raphinkonly the way this launch.html page is dealt with01:17
raphinkwhich is, instead of being generated at build01:17
raphinkto use desktop files for each entry01:17
raphinkif possible01:17
raphinkso entries can be added without having to recompile konqueror01:17
raphinkand which would also allow to translate these entries without recompiling01:18
Riddellright01:18
Riddellsure, go ahead01:18
raphinkphehe01:18
raphinkif I can :)01:18
=== freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.160.148] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Leaving"]
=== Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel
Hobbseehi all01:33
Hobbseecrimsun: i thought i really was going to live in the computer lab tonight.01:34
=== jjesse [n=jjesse@12.45.200.34] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== Parkotron [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-113.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== freeflying sent out 100 kubuntu cds at linuxworld in china today :)
Riddellfreeflying: who did you send them too?01:49
HobbseeRiddell!01:50
Hobbseehey you01:50
Hobbseehi freeflying 01:50
RiddellHobbsee!01:50
=== Hobbsee did not end up walking in front of the bus.
Hobbseesee -motu for a further explanation.01:50
freeflyingRiddell: most of them are end users, some are developers in suse and other distros in china 01:50
freeflyingHobbsee: hey01:50
=== goldenear [n=goldenea@vol75-4-82-225-33-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel
jjessemorning Hobbsee02:47
Hobbseehi jjesse 02:47
=== insanekane [n=kane@202.83.35.225] has joined #kubuntu-devel
seaLnemornfall: does adept just need the depends version changed or will it actually break with the new version of apt in edgy?03:33
insanekanehi ... where do we have to install .desktop files so that they are recognized for the KMenu ?03:33
Hobbseeinsanekane: that's in the packaging guide, kubuntu section03:34
Hobbseeinsanekane: i dont currently remember03:34
HobbseeseaLne: may need a rebuild, apparently03:34
=== Hobbsee hasnt upgraded yet
seaLneHobbsee: rebuild etc was what i ment, as apposed to changing code03:34
=== insanekane was trying to avoid reading packaging*.guides :)
=== Hobbsee wonders if the new apt breaks anything
Hobbseeinsanekane: hah.  dream on.  they're useful03:35
sebasWhy is KDirWatch on kde 3.5.4 so incredibly verbose, is it compiled with --debug or something?03:35
Hobbseesebas: ask Riddell 03:35
sebasYeah, was kinda doing that in fact.03:35
apacheloggerI like it that way ^^03:36
=== Hobbsee waves to apachelogger
apacheloggeromg!03:37
apacheloggernmm is still compiling03:38
=== apachelogger is looking forward to a complete compile
Hobbseeapachelogger: nmm?03:38
=== Hobbsee is preparing to watch everything break
apachelogger<Amarok> * nmm = http://www.networkmultimedia.org/  [added by: apachelog] 03:38
Hobbseeahhhh :)03:38
seaLneHobbsee: btw when i upgraded to 354 i lost antialiased fonts but things look ok now03:43
HobbseeseaLne: was it antialiased fonts, or did it change from regular to light?03:44
seaLneantialiased fonts03:44
Hobbseeodd03:45
seaLnei can't remember when things started to work again but it wasn't for a few weeks03:45
=== apachelogger starts crying
apacheloggermp3play.cpp:253: error: no matching function for call to 'NMM::CEvent::CEvent(NMM::CEvent)'03:51
insanekaneHobbsee: ok ... where is the packaging guide ?03:57
Hobbsee!packagingguide03:57
ubotuThe packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources03:57
insanekaneHobbsee: thanks muchly;03:57
=== jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== superstoned [n=supersto@168-234.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel
Riddellsebas: only different is it's compiled without fam/gamin04:11
=== RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel
Hobbseethere must still be universe stuff still waiting for rebuilds, due to that, too04:12
sebasRiddell: Hm, I'm getting a lot of crap on STDOUT though.04:13
sebasI recall that that was different in earlier versions.04:13
=== RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel
Hobbsee /usr/include/kde/kconfigbackend.h:256: error: 'KLocale' has not been declared....interesting04:27
Hobbseewhich is in kdelibs4-dev04:31
Hobbseemust have broke in kde 3.5.404:33
=== abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.39.210] has joined #kubuntu-devel
Hobbseehi abattoir 04:39
abattoirhello Hobbsee :)04:39
seaLneah adept has been rebuilt04:40
HobbseeseaLne: they got it rebuilt so soon?04:40
seaLnewell its been uploaded04:41
Hobbseeah04:41
=== Parkotron [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-113.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== huahua [n=hua@123.49.236.207] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== Parkotron [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-113.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel
Hobbseegoodnight all05:03
=== toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== david__ [n=david@dslb-084-058-012-096.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel
david__where would I find the sources of the network settings module of kubuntu? also in the kde svn?05:49
david__hi ^^05:49
=== david__ [n=david@dslb-084-058-012-096.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation]
=== david__ [n=david@dslb-084-058-012-096.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel
Riddelldavid__: knetworkconf is in kdeadmin from KDE06:01
Riddelldavid__: why?06:01
david__Riddell: hi, because a collegue and me experienced problems with it today at work and we were thinking about checking it out and looking into it. we found it already then.06:02
Riddelldavid__: it's not the most bug free bit of software06:03
Riddellall patches happily accepted06:03
Riddellit's a C++ frontend to the gnome-system-tools perl backend06:03
david__but aaron just said that the guidance people already work on a replacement06:03
insanekanedavid__: is that true ? I was myself about to embark on a network configuration tool ... 06:06
david__insanekane: I don't know. I'm not really involved. even if they are working on a replacement I think knetworkconf still would need some fixing. especially the part with the network profiles06:08
=== bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel
abattoirRiddell: hi :)06:09
bddebianHello06:09
abattoirRiddell: oem-config seems to be broken w/ current edgy...06:10
insanekanedavid__: by "aaron" do you mean aseigo ?06:13
david__insanekane: yes06:14
insanekaneok thanks06:14
=== seaLne drools over greenphone
DaSkreechgreenphone?06:32
seaLnehttp://www.trolltech.com/company/newsroom/press-kit/greenphone-press-office/index06:32
seaLnehttp://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/15/141244&from=rss06:32
DaSkreechNice06:33
DaSkreechKde 3.5.5 has lifted teh string freeze06:33
abattoirdoes it come in colours other than green? :P06:34
DaSkreechA Suse phone?06:35
=== jjesse [n=jjesse@12.45.200.34] has joined #kubuntu-devel
abattoiryaay, it has wifi too :D06:42
seaLneLinux kernel 2.4.19 seems weird tho06:44
DaSkreechHow do you get this?07:02
DaSkreechseaLne: So this comes with a compiler?07:04
nixternali need kwwii ;)07:25
nixternalhttp://home.comcast.net/~nixternal/07:25
nixternali want a good "Get Kubuntu" thing for the bottom right hand corner07:25
apacheloggerwe should clone him07:29
jjesseso how are things going today?07:33
nixternaljust peachy, and you? ;)07:33
jjessegood, getting lots of work done :)07:34
nixternalim working on getting lots of work done ;)07:34
jjesseso you are pretending to get stuff done?07:37
nixternalactually finally getting to the Kubuntu meeting minutes from 5 days ago07:38
nixternalb4 Hobbsee gets on me with a sharp pointy stick ;)07:38
=== allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel
jjessei was wondering when they would be up :)07:38
=== chavo [n=chavo@67-22-110-236.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel
nixternalwithin the next couple of hours of course ;)07:38
Simehi all07:45
nixternalhiya Sime07:45
jjessehello Sime08:09
=== DaSkreech brandishes pointy stick
Simejjesse: hey08:12
=== eln [n=konversa@u40-30.dsl.vianetworks.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel
Riddellabattoir: what's up with oem-config?08:28
Riddellinsanekane: there's no plans for a guidance network module08:29
=== apacheLAGger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== apacheLAGger is now known as apachelogger
SimeRiddell: is the purple colour scheme staying for edgy? it is the colour of insanity after all.08:36
jjessei like the purple :)08:36
DaSkreechMe too 0_oO-o >_<08:37
DaSkreechIgnore the other signs of insanity 08:38
Simei'm not against it08:39
DaSkreechHa ha KDE4 doesnt sound so hard08:44
DaSkreechDraw the black border around the thumbnail. This fixes our TODO list for08:44
DaSkreechthe initial KDE4 port.08:44
=== claydoh [n=clay@66-252-38-179.da.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.109.24] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel
tomaimbrandon: ping09:14
=== apachelogger is wondering, I think I still have packages in revu no one looked at
Lureapachelogger: you should poke people here or on #ubuntu-motu09:17
apacheloggeryeah, probably :)09:18
apacheloggerfirst I gotta put some more package up ^^09:18
insanekaneRiddell: is it ?09:20
apacheloggersomeone will have a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=259009:28
=== LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel
apacheloggerand in case we have some digg.com posters here: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=288109:32
=== jjesse [n=jjesse@12.45.200.34] has left #kubuntu-devel []
=== fritsch [i=fftNdONZ@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== omeow [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== waspius [n=waspius@dsl-88-218-6-94.customers.vivodi.gr] has joined #kubuntu-devel
waspiushello can someone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20697 ?09:48
DaSkreechOr if you have a kopete 12.2 deb :-)09:48
waspius:)09:49
waspiusanyone here?09:51
=== waspius [n=waspius@dsl-88-218-6-94.customers.vivodi.gr] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation]
apachelogger.2 is already out? Oo09:52
=== jjesse [n=jjesse@12.45.200.34] has joined #kubuntu-devel
DaSkreech:-)09:56
apacheloggerguess hobbsee will take care of upgrade ^^10:00
=== apachelogger prepares upgrade for kubuntu.de version
=== Dinofly [n=dinofly@vbo91-1-82-238-217-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel
seaLneooh basket is in feature freeze it would be cool if it was ready in time for edgy, the kontact integration looks really nice10:18
RiddellSime: I've never heard it called the colour of insanity10:19
alleeapachelogger: how's the procedure to get update pkgs into the dapper repo of kubuntu.de?10:23
DaSkreechRiddell: I have10:24
apacheloggerallee: mail them to marcus.czeslinski A|-|T gmail.com10:25
apacheloggerczessi is working on a upload procesdure, but that's kind of nifty stuff10:26
=== apachelogger is patching kopete so that it doesn't require xmms dep :P
alleeapachelogger: I mail him the diff.gz?10:26
apacheloggerthe dsc, the diff.gz and the orig.tar.gz10:27
apacheloggerusually10:27
alleeapachelogger: thx for the info10:27
apacheloggerif you just changed soemething in debian dir dsc and diff.gz should be enough IMO10:28
alleeapachelogger: in principle it's just a sync when Mark has uploaded knemo ;)10:28
apacheloggerRiddell: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/133320 looks good?10:28
apacheloggerallee: hehe, guess diff and dsc should be enough then10:29
DaSkreechSeem to be doing a lot better on help today10:47
tomaRiddell, imbrandon: please ack https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kscope/+bug/5651910:57
UbugtuMalone bug 56519 in kscope "Please sync 1.4.0-1 from debian." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  10:57
=== rouzic [n=rouzic@213.37.241.12] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== rouzic [n=rouzic@213.37.241.12] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== rouzic [n=rouzic@213.37.241.12] has joined #kubuntu-devel
seaLnegrr i find that the search box when in "file browser" mode dosen't google11:09
seaLne+very annoying11:10
apacheloggerhehe, I always open new tab to google ^^11:10
=== rouzic [n=rouzic@213.37.241.12] has joined #kubuntu-devel
seaLnenot as annoying as search box not auto clearning11:13
=== rouzic [n=rouzic@213.37.241.12] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== omeoww [n=testuser@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== rouzic [n=rouzic@213.37.241.12] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== rouzic [n=rouzic@213.37.241.12] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== rouzic [n=rouzic@213.37.241.12] has joined #kubuntu-devel
imbrandontoma: pong ( and ack'd 56519 )11:25
tomaimbrandon: hi, did you upload showimg already?11:26
toma(and thanks ;-))11:26
imbrandonno i dident , i thought you had someone else do it11:26
imbrandonwhat was the url ?11:26
tomahttp://kubuntu.omat.nl11:26
imbrandonk gimma a minute to grab a soda and i'll grab it11:27
tomasure11:27
=== chavo [n=chavo@67-22-110-236.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== DaSkreech [n=skreech@196.1.142.242] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== chavo [n=chavo@67-22-110-236.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel
imbrandontoma: do you have a directory that is in, those fonts are like 20x tooo small for me to read11:36
toma?11:36
imbrandonhttp://imbrandon.sytes.net/ss3.png  <--- tooo small to tell whats what11:38
=== DaSkreech [n=skreech@196.1.142.242] has joined #kubuntu-devel
tomactrl-scroll?11:41
imbrandonyea i did and made it bigger, just letting you know11:41
imbrandondefault its tiny11:41
tomaimbrandon: i'll have a look at it11:41
imbrandonhrm you dident sign the changes or dsc, want me to sign it and sponsor the upload ?11:42
tomaimbrandon: yes please, or tell me what to do ;-)11:43
imbrandonok i'll will , next time you can build it with debuild -S -sa and it will sign with your key, no biggie though11:44
tomai use pbuilder11:44
alleetoma: when pbuild is done: debsign *.changes and (re)upload ;)11:44
tomalet me try that anyho11:45
tomaw11:45
imbrandonalso target edgy too ( still targeted unstable hehe )11:45
alleebut pbuilder conf file needs some tweak (I have not done) to always include the orig.tar11:45
tomaimbrandon: oops11:45
imbrandonhehe no biggie i changed it11:46
tomahmm, seems that i should use toma@kovoks.nl instead of tomalbers@kde.nl11:47
DaSkreechincoming11:47
imbrandonyou could add both to your key and use either one ( once its reuploaded to the keyserver )11:47
=== willnapier [n=willnapi@84-45-208-244.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel
willnapierHi everyone11:48
willnapierI'm having some difficulty compiling a .sh from a nightly build of kmobiletools svn11:48
imbrandon'ello11:48
willnapierHi imbrandon11:48
imbrandonan .sh ? thats aa shell script , no compiling 11:48
willnapiersorry, I mean run a script by typing ./compile-kmobiletools.sh11:49
willnapierthat is the name of the .sh11:49
imbrandonk can you pastebin your errors and the shell script contents ?11:50
willnapierI am new to irc - how do I pastebin?11:50
imbrandon!pastebin11:50
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:50
willnapierok thanks11:51
imbrandontoma: when you merged the showimg did you use the ubuntu source ? its not likeing the orig tarbal you have11:52
imbrandonRejected:11:52
imbrandonSHA1 sum of uploaded file does not match extant file in archive11:52
tomaimbrandon: i dont recall, it was last friday11:52
imbrandonok, is it on the merges page ?11:53
tomayes11:53
imbrandonok use the grab-merge.sh and get it that way11:53
DaSkreechwillnapier: When you paste the contents give us back the url11:53
Riddelltoma: done11:54
DaSkreechwillnapier: As a tip highlight the error with the mouse and then use middle click to paste11:54
DaSkreechNight guys11:54
tomaimbrandon: grab-merge.sh?11:54
imbrandonhttp://merges.ubuntu.com/grab-merge.sh11:54
willnapierhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2070511:55
imbrandonthen you make a new dir and type "grab-merge.sh showimg" it will get the ubuntu merged files11:55
imbrandonfrom MoM11:55
willnapierthat is a sample of my attempts and errors11:55
imbrandonmoins Riddell11:55
tomaimbrandon: wow, great. 11:55
imbrandon;)11:56
imbrandonwillnapier: it loks like you dont have autoconf ( among other things ) installed, may i ask why your compiling it from source ?11:56
imbrandons/loks/looks11:56
willnapierimbrandon: gosh is that what I'm doing?? well, I have been advised that some features I want are only in the svn version, ie the nightly11:57
willnapierimbrandon: I have done apt-get install autoconf and the paste shows it is the latest version11:58
imbrandonwillnapier: tbh compileing isnt for the inexperinced , your likey to have more problems than what you solve , what version are you looking for specificly ?11:58
willnapierI was told the 'svn' version - and was pointed to the nightly builds, so I chose the latest11:59
imbrandonnightly builds implys they compiled it though, you are compiling11:59
imbrandonwhom pointed you to it ?12:00
willnapiersomeone on the kmobiletools channel12:00
DaSkreechwillnapier: Sorry I came back for something12:00
DaSkreechDid you try sudo apt-get install kmobiletools?12:01
willnapierDaSkreech: no I'll try now12:01
willnapieralready newest version12:01
imbrandonwillnapier: and to get the tolls needed to build it you can sudo apt-get build-dep kmobiletools also12:02
DaSkreechah so why do you want this version you are compiling?12:02
imbrandonwillnapier: but honestly past that ( the build-dep ) your likely to get better help in that channell not here12:02
imbrandonas they know the specifics of that package better12:02
willnapierimbrandon: ok, thanks. I have been told it may be best to wait till there is a deb package available12:02
willnapierfor the beta version12:03
imbrandonwillnapier: yes that is truely the best way12:03
willnapierimbrandon: ok well i'll give myself an honourable discharge then12:03
imbrandonthat way you can get help if needed, if you compile your self , hardly anyone will be willing to help12:03
willnapierok thanks12:04
willnapierI've learnt something!12:04
imbrandon;)12:04
willnapier(including how to use irc)12:04
imbrandonheh you might hang out in #kubuntu , they are a great bunch of people12:04
imbrandonfor general help and chit chat 12:05
imbrandon;)12:05
DaSkreechwillnapier: try /join #kmobiletools :)12:05
DaSkreechGone again12:05
=== DaSkreech [n=skreech@196.1.142.242] has joined #kubuntu-devel
willnapierDaSkreech: thanks - I have been there and they advised to wait for a package too.12:06
tomaimbrandon: i will sign the next upload. that is now sorted12:08
imbrandonnp ;) just poke me when ever, if i'm arround i'll shove it up12:08
tomaimbrandon: great12:09

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!