[01:27] <bddebian> Howdy
[01:32] <DaSkreech> woot
[01:32] <jjesse> woot what?
[01:33] <bddebian> He's an owl ;-)
[01:40] <DaSkreech> It's a hoot!@
[01:40] <bddebian> :-)
[03:30] <imbrandon> ...
[03:33] <bddebian> ....
[03:34] <DaSkreech> .....
[04:00] <imbrandon> quiet night ..... i guess thats good
[04:00] <jjesse> everyone's asleep :)
[04:01] <DaSkreech> ZZZzzzZZzzzzzzzz.......
[04:01] <DaSkreech> *burp*
[04:02] <imbrandon> heh yea but there is SOME traffic most of the time , hehe
[04:02] <imbrandon> even u-devel and -motu are slow ;)
[04:04] <bddebian> Hey, speak for yourself ;-P
[04:04] <imbrandon> hehe
[04:10] <jjesse> isn't this week a big holiday for europe?
[04:11] <bddebian> Isn't EVERY week a holidy for Europe? ;-P
[04:11] <DaSkreech> Touche
[04:14] <imbrandon> lol @ bddebian , +1
[05:15] <DaSkreech> Hi Hobbsee
[05:16] <Hobbsee> hi all
[05:16] <Hobbsee> hi DaSkreech :)
[05:16] <DaSkreech> :-) And that prompts me to leave
[05:16] <Hobbsee> :( no
[05:17] <DaSkreech> Umm ok I can wait around for a few more minutes
[05:17] <DaSkreech> Someone is starting a folding@home kubuntu group
[05:18] <Hobbsee> oh nice
[05:18] <DaSkreech>  Just so we can beat on the Ubuntu one
[05:18] <DaSkreech> http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=45104
[05:18] <DaSkreech> Ubuntu
[05:18] <DaSkreech> http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=51238
[05:18] <DaSkreech> Us
[05:20] <imbrandon> heh we're a little behind
[05:21] <Hobbsee> i dont think we'll ever beat them, nor should we want to.
[05:21] <DaSkreech> Yeah :-) So if anyone feels like saving Humanity ( and beating up on Ubuntu) please feel free
[05:21] <Hobbsee> we're a little down on people :P
[05:21] <imbrandon> yea we whoudl realy combine them
[05:22] <imbrandon> hehe
[05:22] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: they in effect *are* combined.  it's bad for us to be segregated off, and it's something that we need to change.
[05:22] <Hobbsee> haha
[05:23] <imbrandon> depends on the thing we're talking about stuff like this yea
[05:23] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: See the main Kubuntu channel :)
[05:23] <imbrandon> some things are better togather some better apart ;)
[05:24] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:25] <Hobbsee> and Riddell spelt my nick wrong!!!!
[05:25] <imbrandon> lol
[05:25] <DaSkreech> You are still bitter over that huh?
[05:27] <Hobbsee> no
[05:27] <Hobbsee> i'm just surprised that he did it again 
[05:28] <DaSkreech> Cool 6.06.1 got Distrowatched
[05:28] <DaSkreech> I am as well FWIW
[05:29] <Hobbsee> this is cool :)
[05:29] <DaSkreech> :-)
[05:32] <DaSkreech> Oh Hobbsee did you see the It goddesses?
[05:32] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: the IT goddesses?
[05:33] <DaSkreech> http://www.itgoddess.info/calendar.htm
[05:33] <Hobbsee> ohh...yeah, i saw that a while ago, iirc
[05:33] <Hobbsee> yeah
[05:33] <DaSkreech> having a tiny debate about i tnow
[05:34] <DaSkreech> Yea or Nay?
[05:35] <Hobbsee> i, and a lot of other woman, fight very hard *not* to be viewed as a sex object.  this really does seem like a step in the wrong direction.
[05:35] <Hobbsee> s/woman/women/
[05:36] <DaSkreech> That's what I figured
[05:37] <DaSkreech> http://www.utasce.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3189&sid=d879147dcdb63d0c9dc4fe81920102a9#3189
[05:37] <DaSkreech> From one of our Female members
[05:37] <DaSkreech> Well yeah It's obvious if you read that :)
[05:38] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:38] <crimsun> I venture the vast majority of computer users slip into a pseudo-[ if not outright] puerile mode. Not that it's an excuse, but it happens because we tend to be lax about most things.
[05:39] <crimsun> Objectification occurs from the top of the hierarchy downward if you consider the stratification we have (a leader, minions, and so on).
[05:40] <DaSkreech> So minons never objectify if the leader does not?
[05:41] <crimsun> that's a bit of a leap
[05:42] <imbrandon> LOL
[05:42] <DaSkreech> I got leader and minions
[05:43] <Hobbsee> i mean, i sort of did, but it was more complicated and confusing than my recent physics lecture!
[05:43] <Hobbsee> crimsun: you're saying that if the leader views a group of people in a certain way, the rest of the team will follow, and do the same thing?
[05:43] <DaSkreech> Pfft Physics is easy when compared to ...<chooses random word> Stratification 
[05:44] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:45] <DaSkreech> Well wanted to get someone else's e-opinion
[05:46] <DaSkreech> How did I type that?
[05:46] <DaSkreech> Typo even :-P
[05:46] <imbrandon> lol
[05:47] <Hobbsee> sigh.  the later stuff in the meeting is exactly how we should never let kubuntu, or any other team run.
[05:47] <DaSkreech> The I'd pose for the calendar but that's cause I'm hot kind of threw me but then  I guess I should 't have been that surprised
[05:48] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:48] <crimsun> Hobbsee: not precisely. We have a sort of self-perpetuating problem in the FLOSS world (not that it's limited to FLOSS, but for the sake of examination here...)
[05:48] <Hobbsee> right
[05:50] <Hobbsee> oh dear.  the example in the meeting is *exactly* what i never want to happen for kubuntu, or any other team.
[05:50] <DaSkreech> crimsun: What's that?
[05:50] <crimsun> Part of the problem is that we embrace a sort of stratification that's both necessary for security (core-dev vs. dev vs. member vs. non-member), but that same mentality also perpetuates the myth of "stronger is better". Since we tend to model virtual societies on real life (RL), we tend to fall back on what we "know best."
[05:52] <imbrandon> i guess i need to read the log, i dident catch the meeting
[05:53] <Hobbsee> http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-meeting-2006-08-14.html
[05:53] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: ^
[05:53] <Hobbsee> crimsun: true that.
[05:55] <Hobbsee> yay!  apt wants to remove adept,etc!
[05:55] <imbrandon> hehe yea adept needs a rebuild , ABI change or soemthing
[05:55] <Hobbsee> apt and aptitude, in fact
[06:11] <DaSkreech> Yeah that last par tdoes seem dodgy
[06:11] <DaSkreech> Any way I'm going to bed
[06:11] <DaSkreech>  Night
[06:22] <bddebian> Gnight DaSkreech
[06:22] <imbrandon> ohh man that was nuts
[09:17] <hunger> Could somebody please upload cmake 2.4.3? It will be the min. required version to build kde4 in 2 weeks.
[09:17] <hunger> Thanks!
[09:19] <imbrandon> hunger: yes Riddell will make sure kde4 will build in edgy 
[09:20] <imbrandon> hrm cmake is in universe? i can do that i guess
[09:20] <imbrandon> hunger:  has 2.4.3 hit debian sid yet ?
[09:21] <hunger> imbrandon: No idea, I'll check, one sec.
[09:21] <imbrandon> i just did, it has
[09:21] <hunger> imbrandon: Just read a mail that 2.4.3 will be required on kde-devel:-)
[09:21] <imbrandon> i'll look and see if it needs a merge or sync
[09:21] <hunger> imbrandon: Thanks!
[09:23] <crimsun> not much to read.
[09:23] <crimsun>      cmake |    2.4.2-1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages
[09:23] <nixternal> moins Hobbsee
[09:23] <crimsun>      cmake |    2.4.2-1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Sources
[09:23] <imbrandon> yea dosent look like it has a delta
[09:24] <imbrandon> its not on the merges list yet but i could request a sync then
[09:24] <Hobbsee> hi nixternal 
[09:24] <Hobbsee> tuesdays are evil, and should be banned.
[09:24] <imbrandon> heya Hobbsee
[09:24] <crimsun> imbrandon: it wouldn't be on the merges list.
[09:24] <imbrandon> yea true
[09:24] <crimsun> not a merge, hence not on the merges list.
[09:25] <imbrandon> heh yea if no ubuntu delta no merge hehe
[09:26] <Hobbsee> anyone got a spare car?
[09:28] <imbrandon> hunger: bug #56419 reported, should be sync'd to edgy in less than ~24 hrs ( approx ) , sometimes less
[09:28] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56419 in cmake "Please sync cmake 2.4.3-1 from Debian unstable" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/56419
[09:32] <crimsun> (that depends on an overworked Scott)
[09:33] <Hobbsee> true
[09:34] <hunger> imbrandon: Great!
[09:34] <imbrandon> heh
[09:34] <hunger> imbrandon: Then it will be in place before kde4 requires it;-)
[09:35] <imbrandon> yea it should definately hit before the 2 weeks , even if scott is busy ;)
[09:36] <imbrandon> no car?
[09:36] <crimsun> cars are for wimps. Real BOFHs live in computer labs.
[09:37] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: oh i have a car.  it starts.  but it wont go backwards or forwards.
[09:37] <imbrandon> ouch 
[09:37] <Hobbsee> except for incredibly slowly
[01:07] <raphink> hi 
[01:07] <raphink> Riddell: do you think it's possible to introduce string variables in a moodin ksplash?
[01:07] <raphink> to display random sentences at boot
[01:08] <Riddell> raphink: it would mean a patch
[01:08] <raphink> yes I guess
[01:08] <raphink> :s
[01:08] <raphink> oh talking about a patch
[01:08] <raphink> I need to modify the konqueror about page
[01:08] <raphink> and I saw that I have to patch the source and this is obviously an issue
[01:08] <raphink> so we've been wondering, with some other devs
[01:09] <raphink> if it would be possible to patch konqueror so it uses .desktop files for the konqueror about page
[01:09] <raphink> maybe the way systemsettings deals with its modules
[01:09] <raphink> having a general xml layout
[01:09] <raphink> listing desktop files to include
[01:09] <raphink> and having each entry as a desktop file
[01:09] <raphink> with an icon, short text, long text and command (link)
[01:10] <Riddell> probably could, although startup time is an issue for about:
[01:10] <apachelogger> raphink: is there an easy way to get a package built with GCC 3.4 instead of 4?
[01:11] <raphink> Riddell: the about page currently requires to read mo files for translation, would using desktop files make it really slower? 
[01:11] <raphink> apachelogger: no idea sorry
[01:11] <apachelogger> Riddell: you know a way?
[01:11] <Riddell> apachelogger: install gcc-3.4 and set CC=gcc-3.4
[01:11] <apachelogger> thx :D
[01:11] <raphink> Riddell: note that such a modularization of the about page would also allow Kubuntu to not patch konqueror but add desktop files in kubuntu-default-settings instead
[01:12] <raphink> and would ease derivatives
[01:12] <Riddell> raphink: sounds nice
[01:12] <Riddell> but the about page is more than just konqueror
[01:12] <raphink> how do you mean?
[01:12] <Riddell> it's also khelpcentre, kcontrol, kontact, kmail and kbugbuster
[01:12] <raphink> well sure
[01:13] <raphink> hmmm
[01:13] <raphink> really?
[01:13] <raphink> :s
[01:13] <raphink> I don't get that
[01:13] <raphink> I'm talking about the page that opens in konqueror by default
[01:13] <Riddell> me too
[01:13] <raphink> this one
[01:13] <raphink>  /usr/share/apps/konqueror/about/launch.html
[01:14] <raphink> well this file is only the layout though ;)
[01:14] <raphink> but you get the point
[01:15] <raphink> I don't see where this page is used in other apps
[01:17] <Riddell> it's not, each application uses the same artwork but implemented differently
[01:17] <raphink> ok
[01:17] <raphink> but I don't want to modify the artwok
[01:17] <raphink> only the way this launch.html page is dealt with
[01:17] <raphink> which is, instead of being generated at build
[01:17] <raphink> to use desktop files for each entry
[01:17] <raphink> if possible
[01:17] <raphink> so entries can be added without having to recompile konqueror
[01:18] <raphink> and which would also allow to translate these entries without recompiling
[01:18] <Riddell> right
[01:18] <Riddell> sure, go ahead
[01:18] <raphink> phehe
[01:18] <raphink> if I can :)
[01:33] <Hobbsee> hi all
[01:34] <Hobbsee> crimsun: i thought i really was going to live in the computer lab tonight.
[01:49] <Riddell> freeflying: who did you send them too?
[01:50] <Hobbsee> Riddell!
[01:50] <Hobbsee> hey you
[01:50] <Hobbsee> hi freeflying 
[01:50] <Riddell> Hobbsee!
[01:50] <Hobbsee> see -motu for a further explanation.
[01:50] <freeflying> Riddell: most of them are end users, some are developers in suse and other distros in china 
[01:50] <freeflying> Hobbsee: hey
[02:47] <jjesse> morning Hobbsee
[02:47] <Hobbsee> hi jjesse 
[03:33] <seaLne> mornfall: does adept just need the depends version changed or will it actually break with the new version of apt in edgy?
[03:33] <insanekane> hi ... where do we have to install .desktop files so that they are recognized for the KMenu ?
[03:34] <Hobbsee> insanekane: that's in the packaging guide, kubuntu section
[03:34] <Hobbsee> insanekane: i dont currently remember
[03:34] <Hobbsee> seaLne: may need a rebuild, apparently
[03:34] <seaLne> Hobbsee: rebuild etc was what i ment, as apposed to changing code
[03:35] <Hobbsee> insanekane: hah.  dream on.  they're useful
[03:35] <sebas> Why is KDirWatch on kde 3.5.4 so incredibly verbose, is it compiled with --debug or something?
[03:35] <Hobbsee> sebas: ask Riddell 
[03:35] <sebas> Yeah, was kinda doing that in fact.
[03:36] <apachelogger> I like it that way ^^
[03:37] <apachelogger> omg!
[03:38] <apachelogger> nmm is still compiling
[03:38] <Hobbsee> apachelogger: nmm?
 * nmm = http://www.networkmultimedia.org/  [added by: apachelog] 
[03:38] <Hobbsee> ahhhh :)
[03:43] <seaLne> Hobbsee: btw when i upgraded to 354 i lost antialiased fonts but things look ok now
[03:44] <Hobbsee> seaLne: was it antialiased fonts, or did it change from regular to light?
[03:44] <seaLne> antialiased fonts
[03:45] <Hobbsee> odd
[03:45] <seaLne> i can't remember when things started to work again but it wasn't for a few weeks
[03:51] <apachelogger> mp3play.cpp:253: error: no matching function for call to 'NMM::CEvent::CEvent(NMM::CEvent)'
[03:57] <insanekane> Hobbsee: ok ... where is the packaging guide ?
[03:57] <Hobbsee> !packagingguide
[03:57] <ubotu> The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources
[03:57] <insanekane> Hobbsee: thanks muchly;
[04:11] <Riddell> sebas: only different is it's compiled without fam/gamin
[04:12] <Hobbsee> there must still be universe stuff still waiting for rebuilds, due to that, too
[04:13] <sebas> Riddell: Hm, I'm getting a lot of crap on STDOUT though.
[04:13] <sebas> I recall that that was different in earlier versions.
[04:27] <Hobbsee>  /usr/include/kde/kconfigbackend.h:256: error: 'KLocale' has not been declared....interesting
[04:31] <Hobbsee> which is in kdelibs4-dev
[04:33] <Hobbsee> must have broke in kde 3.5.4
[04:39] <Hobbsee> hi abattoir 
[04:39] <abattoir> hello Hobbsee :)
[04:40] <seaLne> ah adept has been rebuilt
[04:40] <Hobbsee> seaLne: they got it rebuilt so soon?
[04:41] <seaLne> well its been uploaded
[04:41] <Hobbsee> ah
[05:03] <Hobbsee> goodnight all
[05:49] <david__> where would I find the sources of the network settings module of kubuntu? also in the kde svn?
[05:49] <david__> hi ^^
[06:01] <Riddell> david__: knetworkconf is in kdeadmin from KDE
[06:01] <Riddell> david__: why?
[06:02] <david__> Riddell: hi, because a collegue and me experienced problems with it today at work and we were thinking about checking it out and looking into it. we found it already then.
[06:03] <Riddell> david__: it's not the most bug free bit of software
[06:03] <Riddell> all patches happily accepted
[06:03] <Riddell> it's a C++ frontend to the gnome-system-tools perl backend
[06:03] <david__> but aaron just said that the guidance people already work on a replacement
[06:06] <insanekane> david__: is that true ? I was myself about to embark on a network configuration tool ... 
[06:08] <david__> insanekane: I don't know. I'm not really involved. even if they are working on a replacement I think knetworkconf still would need some fixing. especially the part with the network profiles
[06:09] <abattoir> Riddell: hi :)
[06:09] <bddebian> Hello
[06:10] <abattoir> Riddell: oem-config seems to be broken w/ current edgy...
[06:13] <insanekane> david__: by "aaron" do you mean aseigo ?
[06:14] <david__> insanekane: yes
[06:14] <insanekane> ok thanks
[06:32] <DaSkreech> greenphone?
[06:32] <seaLne> http://www.trolltech.com/company/newsroom/press-kit/greenphone-press-office/index
[06:32] <seaLne> http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/15/141244&from=rss
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Nice
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Kde 3.5.5 has lifted teh string freeze
[06:34] <abattoir> does it come in colours other than green? :P
[06:35] <DaSkreech> A Suse phone?
[06:42] <abattoir> yaay, it has wifi too :D
[06:44] <seaLne> Linux kernel 2.4.19 seems weird tho
[07:02] <DaSkreech> How do you get this?
[07:04] <DaSkreech> seaLne: So this comes with a compiler?
[07:25] <nixternal> i need kwwii ;)
[07:25] <nixternal> http://home.comcast.net/~nixternal/
[07:25] <nixternal> i want a good "Get Kubuntu" thing for the bottom right hand corner
[07:29] <apachelogger> we should clone him
[07:33] <jjesse> so how are things going today?
[07:33] <nixternal> just peachy, and you? ;)
[07:34] <jjesse> good, getting lots of work done :)
[07:34] <nixternal> im working on getting lots of work done ;)
[07:37] <jjesse> so you are pretending to get stuff done?
[07:38] <nixternal> actually finally getting to the Kubuntu meeting minutes from 5 days ago
[07:38] <nixternal> b4 Hobbsee gets on me with a sharp pointy stick ;)
[07:38] <jjesse> i was wondering when they would be up :)
[07:38] <nixternal> within the next couple of hours of course ;)
[07:45] <Sime> hi all
[07:45] <nixternal> hiya Sime
[08:09] <jjesse> hello Sime
[08:12] <Sime> jjesse: hey
[08:28] <Riddell> abattoir: what's up with oem-config?
[08:29] <Riddell> insanekane: there's no plans for a guidance network module
[08:36] <Sime> Riddell: is the purple colour scheme staying for edgy? it is the colour of insanity after all.
[08:36] <jjesse> i like the purple :)
[08:37] <DaSkreech> Me too 0_oO-o >_<
[08:38] <DaSkreech> Ignore the other signs of insanity 
[08:39] <Sime> i'm not against it
[08:44] <DaSkreech> Ha ha KDE4 doesnt sound so hard
[08:44] <DaSkreech> Draw the black border around the thumbnail. This fixes our TODO list for
[08:44] <DaSkreech> the initial KDE4 port.
[09:14] <toma> imbrandon: ping
[09:17] <Lure> apachelogger: you should poke people here or on #ubuntu-motu
[09:18] <apachelogger> yeah, probably :)
[09:18] <apachelogger> first I gotta put some more package up ^^
[09:20] <insanekane> Riddell: is it ?
[09:28] <apachelogger> someone will have a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2590
[09:32] <apachelogger> and in case we have some digg.com posters here: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2881
[09:48] <waspius> hello can someone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20697 ?
[09:48] <DaSkreech> Or if you have a kopete 12.2 deb :-)
[09:49] <waspius> :)
[09:51] <waspius> anyone here?
[09:52] <apachelogger> .2 is already out? Oo
[09:56] <DaSkreech> :-)
[10:00] <apachelogger> guess hobbsee will take care of upgrade ^^
[10:18] <seaLne> ooh basket is in feature freeze it would be cool if it was ready in time for edgy, the kontact integration looks really nice
[10:19] <Riddell> Sime: I've never heard it called the colour of insanity
[10:23] <allee> apachelogger: how's the procedure to get update pkgs into the dapper repo of kubuntu.de?
[10:24] <DaSkreech> Riddell: I have
[10:25] <apachelogger> allee: mail them to marcus.czeslinski A|-|T gmail.com
[10:26] <apachelogger> czessi is working on a upload procesdure, but that's kind of nifty stuff
[10:26] <allee> apachelogger: I mail him the diff.gz?
[10:27] <apachelogger> the dsc, the diff.gz and the orig.tar.gz
[10:27] <apachelogger> usually
[10:27] <allee> apachelogger: thx for the info
[10:28] <apachelogger> if you just changed soemething in debian dir dsc and diff.gz should be enough IMO
[10:28] <allee> apachelogger: in principle it's just a sync when Mark has uploaded knemo ;)
[10:28] <apachelogger> Riddell: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/133320 looks good?
[10:29] <apachelogger> allee: hehe, guess diff and dsc should be enough then
[10:47] <DaSkreech> Seem to be doing a lot better on help today
[10:57] <toma> Riddell, imbrandon: please ack https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kscope/+bug/56519
[10:57] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56519 in kscope "Please sync 1.4.0-1 from debian." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  
[11:09] <seaLne> grr i find that the search box when in "file browser" mode dosen't google
[11:10] <seaLne> +very annoying
[11:10] <apachelogger> hehe, I always open new tab to google ^^
[11:13] <seaLne> not as annoying as search box not auto clearning
[11:25] <imbrandon> toma: pong ( and ack'd 56519 )
[11:26] <toma> imbrandon: hi, did you upload showimg already?
[11:26] <toma> (and thanks ;-))
[11:26] <imbrandon> no i dident , i thought you had someone else do it
[11:26] <imbrandon> what was the url ?
[11:26] <toma> http://kubuntu.omat.nl
[11:27] <imbrandon> k gimma a minute to grab a soda and i'll grab it
[11:27] <toma> sure
[11:36] <imbrandon> toma: do you have a directory that is in, those fonts are like 20x tooo small for me to read
[11:36] <toma> ?
[11:38] <imbrandon> http://imbrandon.sytes.net/ss3.png  <--- tooo small to tell whats what
[11:41] <toma> ctrl-scroll?
[11:41] <imbrandon> yea i did and made it bigger, just letting you know
[11:41] <imbrandon> default its tiny
[11:41] <toma> imbrandon: i'll have a look at it
[11:42] <imbrandon> hrm you dident sign the changes or dsc, want me to sign it and sponsor the upload ?
[11:43] <toma> imbrandon: yes please, or tell me what to do ;-)
[11:44] <imbrandon> ok i'll will , next time you can build it with debuild -S -sa and it will sign with your key, no biggie though
[11:44] <toma> i use pbuilder
[11:44] <allee> toma: when pbuild is done: debsign *.changes and (re)upload ;)
[11:45] <toma> let me try that anyho
[11:45] <toma> w
[11:45] <imbrandon> also target edgy too ( still targeted unstable hehe )
[11:45] <allee> but pbuilder conf file needs some tweak (I have not done) to always include the orig.tar
[11:45] <toma> imbrandon: oops
[11:46] <imbrandon> hehe no biggie i changed it
[11:47] <toma> hmm, seems that i should use toma@kovoks.nl instead of tomalbers@kde.nl
[11:47] <DaSkreech> incoming
[11:47] <imbrandon> you could add both to your key and use either one ( once its reuploaded to the keyserver )
[11:48] <willnapier> Hi everyone
[11:48] <willnapier> I'm having some difficulty compiling a .sh from a nightly build of kmobiletools svn
[11:48] <imbrandon> 'ello
[11:48] <willnapier> Hi imbrandon
[11:48] <imbrandon> an .sh ? thats aa shell script , no compiling 
[11:49] <willnapier> sorry, I mean run a script by typing ./compile-kmobiletools.sh
[11:49] <willnapier> that is the name of the .sh
[11:50] <imbrandon> k can you pastebin your errors and the shell script contents ?
[11:50] <willnapier> I am new to irc - how do I pastebin?
[11:50] <imbrandon> !pastebin
[11:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:51] <willnapier> ok thanks
[11:52] <imbrandon> toma: when you merged the showimg did you use the ubuntu source ? its not likeing the orig tarbal you have
[11:52] <imbrandon> Rejected:
[11:52] <imbrandon> SHA1 sum of uploaded file does not match extant file in archive
[11:52] <toma> imbrandon: i dont recall, it was last friday
[11:53] <imbrandon> ok, is it on the merges page ?
[11:53] <toma> yes
[11:53] <imbrandon> ok use the grab-merge.sh and get it that way
[11:53] <DaSkreech> willnapier: When you paste the contents give us back the url
[11:54] <Riddell> toma: done
[11:54] <DaSkreech> willnapier: As a tip highlight the error with the mouse and then use middle click to paste
[11:54] <DaSkreech> Night guys
[11:54] <toma> imbrandon: grab-merge.sh?
[11:54] <imbrandon> http://merges.ubuntu.com/grab-merge.sh
[11:55] <willnapier> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20705
[11:55] <imbrandon> then you make a new dir and type "grab-merge.sh showimg" it will get the ubuntu merged files
[11:55] <imbrandon> from MoM
[11:55] <willnapier> that is a sample of my attempts and errors
[11:55] <imbrandon> moins Riddell
[11:55] <toma> imbrandon: wow, great. 
[11:56] <imbrandon> ;)
[11:56] <imbrandon> willnapier: it loks like you dont have autoconf ( among other things ) installed, may i ask why your compiling it from source ?
[11:56] <imbrandon> s/loks/looks
[11:57] <willnapier> imbrandon: gosh is that what I'm doing?? well, I have been advised that some features I want are only in the svn version, ie the nightly
[11:58] <willnapier> imbrandon: I have done apt-get install autoconf and the paste shows it is the latest version
[11:58] <imbrandon> willnapier: tbh compileing isnt for the inexperinced , your likey to have more problems than what you solve , what version are you looking for specificly ?
[11:59] <willnapier> I was told the 'svn' version - and was pointed to the nightly builds, so I chose the latest
[11:59] <imbrandon> nightly builds implys they compiled it though, you are compiling
[12:00] <imbrandon> whom pointed you to it ?
[12:00] <willnapier> someone on the kmobiletools channel
[12:00] <DaSkreech> willnapier: Sorry I came back for something
[12:01] <DaSkreech> Did you try sudo apt-get install kmobiletools?
[12:01] <willnapier> DaSkreech: no I'll try now
[12:01] <willnapier> already newest version
[12:02] <imbrandon> willnapier: and to get the tolls needed to build it you can sudo apt-get build-dep kmobiletools also
[12:02] <DaSkreech> ah so why do you want this version you are compiling?
[12:02] <imbrandon> willnapier: but honestly past that ( the build-dep ) your likely to get better help in that channell not here
[12:02] <imbrandon> as they know the specifics of that package better
[12:02] <willnapier> imbrandon: ok, thanks. I have been told it may be best to wait till there is a deb package available
[12:03] <willnapier> for the beta version
[12:03] <imbrandon> willnapier: yes that is truely the best way
[12:03] <willnapier> imbrandon: ok well i'll give myself an honourable discharge then
[12:03] <imbrandon> that way you can get help if needed, if you compile your self , hardly anyone will be willing to help
[12:04] <willnapier> ok thanks
[12:04] <willnapier> I've learnt something!
[12:04] <imbrandon> ;)
[12:04] <willnapier> (including how to use irc)
[12:04] <imbrandon> heh you might hang out in #kubuntu , they are a great bunch of people
[12:05] <imbrandon> for general help and chit chat 
[12:05] <imbrandon> ;)
[12:05] <DaSkreech> willnapier: try /join #kmobiletools :)
[12:05] <DaSkreech> Gone again
[12:06] <willnapier> DaSkreech: thanks - I have been there and they advised to wait for a package too.
[12:08] <toma> imbrandon: i will sign the next upload. that is now sorted
[12:08] <imbrandon> np ;) just poke me when ever, if i'm arround i'll shove it up
[12:09] <toma> imbrandon: great