[12:14] <orange_lady> whois orangelady
[12:14] <hackman2007> how do I install the build-essential package?
[12:14] <word> trappist: i get an error saying mythfrontend: cannot connect to X server :1 :-/ is there a way i can find out what the x server's name is?
[12:15] <hackman2007> anyone know how to install the build-essential package in Kubuntu?
[12:16] <Agios> apt-get install build-essencial
[12:17] <hackman2007> k
[12:17] <hackman2007> thanks
[12:17] <Agios> np
[12:17] <gnomefreak> build-essential
[12:19] <orange_lady> hackman2007: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:20] <pagan0ne> can someone help me with xorg.config i have an issue with my dual head setup where the desktop doesnt fit on my monitor, it scrolls from edge to edge
[12:22] <word> pagan0ne: all the time or have you restarted x since the problem started?
[12:23] <gravespit> how do i get unrar?
[12:24] <DaSkreech> apt-get install unrar
[12:24] <jordanR> unrar-free
[12:24] <DaSkreech> Whatever :)
[12:24] <gravespit> ahhh okey thanks!
[12:24] <pagan0ne> can someone help me with xorg.config i have an issue with my dual head setup where the desktop doesnt fit on my monitor, it scrolls from edge to edge
[12:25] <word> pagan0ne: all the time or have you restarted x since the problem started?
[12:25] <gravespit> couldnt find the package unrar-free
[12:25] <word> pagan0ne: before you start repeating yourself maybe you should watch for replies..
[12:25] <jordanR> gravespit: just sec
[12:25] <pagan0ne> word: i had sevral client crashse, but the problem developed immedently after i switched to nvidia drivers and set up my dual display setup
[12:26] <pagan0ne> word: sorry about the repeats, but everythime i said sompthing, i got disconnected
[12:26] <gravespit> jordanR:okey
[12:26] <DaSkreech> gravespit: You have universe?
[12:26] <word> pagan0ne: are you using dapper?
[12:27] <jordanR> yeah is it apt-get unrar-free check the site. http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/utils/
[12:27] <gravespit> DaSkreech: think so
[12:27] <jordanR> opps
[12:27] <jordanR> apt-get install unrar-free
[12:27] <pagan0ne> word: yep, fresh install, did an update using adept, then installed nvidia drivers and tried to get 2nd display up and running
[12:27] <gravespit> well that dont work so maybe i dont have universe?
[12:28] <word> did you follow the tutorial NvidiaTVOut on the wiki?
[12:28] <DaSkreech> gravespit: I would say yes :-) can you pastebin your sources?
[12:28] <word> pagan0ne: ^
[12:28] <gravespit> DaSkreech: sure if you tell me where i can see it? was in it long time ago
[12:28] <pagan0ne> word: im not using the tv output, im using the vga and dvi outputs (dvi using the supplied dvi2vga converter that comes with nvidia cards
[12:28] <orange_lady> gravespit: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:29] <DaSkreech> gravespit: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:29] <word> pagan0ne: did you follow the tutorial NvidiaTVOut on the wiki?
[12:29] <word> (yes or no question) :P
[12:29] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Where'd you get narried?
[12:30] <gravespit> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20596
[12:30] <pagan0ne> word: im looking at it now, i was just using the toold provided to me from the "system settings" menu, i dont know much about xorg config
[12:30] <darkyoshi372> How can I watch streaming H.264, or whatever format Apple is using to stream WWDC? I want to watch it.
[12:31] <orange_lady> gravespit: do you have breezy?
[12:31] <apallo19> can someone help me mount a shared folder?
[12:32] <word> pastebin your xorg config pagan0ne
[12:32] <gravespit> orange_lady: ive got unrar-free now
[12:32] <orange_lady> gravespit: how?
[12:33] <gravespit> orange_lady: tokk away the # in front of the universe repositories, and updated and tried again and i t worked
[12:34] <orange_lady> gravespit: great, found it out yourself..., btw, do you still have breezy or do you just have an old sources.list?
[12:34] <apallo19> i have a shared drive on my windows box that i want to mount as a drive on my kubuntu box, but it isn't working. Could someone help me?
[12:35] <gravespit> orange_lady: still have breezy :)
[12:35] <DaSkreech> gravespit: I was jsut noting that
[12:35] <gravespit> orange_lady: but how can i make it work with Ark?
[12:35] <orange_lady> gravespit: why? just a question?
[12:36] <DaSkreech> gravespit: I think It should work now
[12:36] <gravespit> orange_lady: Whyi have Breezy? well it works :)
[12:36] <orange_lady> gravespit: i actually don't know, I'm a newbie myself and haven't used Ark...
[12:37] <gravespit> DaSkreech: nah i doesnt work
[12:38] <DaSkreech> Strange worked for me :-(
[12:38] <DaSkreech> at least I think it did I don't recall doing anything etra
[12:38] <DaSkreech> you can unrar from the command line?
[12:38] <apallo19> do i need voice to be seen here?
[12:38] <jordanR> nope
[12:39] <apallo19> ahh, just being ignored then
[12:39] <gravespit> DaSkreech: unrar <filename> <path>  ?
[12:39] <jordanR> or no one can help you out :)
[12:40] <DaSkreech> apallo19: Don't know about mount
[12:40] <DaSkreech>  have you tried smb:/ ?
[12:40] <apallo19> that's true
[12:40] <apallo19> yep
[12:40] <orange_lady> apallo19: what have you done so far? I'm a newbie so i don't think i can help you much, but i'll try
[12:40] <apallo19> i've tried about 10 variations of mount
[12:40] <DaSkreech> And it's there?
[12:40] <apallo19> i have tried doing it from the drive thingy in kde
[12:41] <apallo19> it keeps failing, and i'm at a loss as to why
[12:41] <terrilsj> hello, i need some help with grub, is this the right channel
[12:41] <apallo19> i just wanna listen to my mp3's
[12:41] <ru> kubuntu just installed - yippee
[12:41] <DaSkreech> What command are you using?
[12:42] <terrilsj> when i install grub from kubuntu - it recognizes my sata drive as hd2 and only installs that way
[12:42] <ru> can someone tell me is there a vnc server built into kubuntu? I can only find client software so far (linux nube)
[12:42] <terrilsj> however at boot time, i have to hit e and edit the line to hd0
[12:42] <terrilsj> if i edit menu.lst , grub automatically changes it
[12:42] <DaSkreech> ru:  check under internet in the KMeu
[12:43] <terrilsj> and i have to keep just editing it at boot time
[12:43] <DaSkreech> apallo19: so you can see it in smb:/ ?
[12:43] <apallo19> yes
[12:44] <apallo19> but it wont mount
[12:44] <DaSkreech> but you can't go into it?
[12:44] <DaSkreech> What does it say?
[12:44] <apallo19> when i run mount  -t smbfs -o username=foo,password=bar //servername/mp3 /mnt/mp3
[12:44] <apallo19> it comes back telling me that the wrong fs is picked
[12:45] <apallo19> when i change it to autofs or ntfs, it tells me it cant find the drive
[12:46] <ru> DaSkreech: Its not there :( how can I install it?
[12:47] <apallo19> all the guides tell me to use smbmount, but it's not installed
[12:47] <DaSkreech> apallo19: Then apt-get install smbount
[12:47] <apallo19> i tried that, says it can't find it
[12:47] <DaSkreech> ru: Oh wait vnc
[12:47] <DaSkreech> Umm
[12:48] <DaSkreech> ru: Know how to use adept?
[12:48] <ru> DaSkreech: yip
[12:48] <DaSkreech> ru then Go to it :)
[12:48] <mrono_> two questions
[12:48] <DaSkreech> Search for VNC and see which one you like
[12:48] <apallo19> and apt-get doesn't know where it is, or what it is
[12:49] <mrono_> 1, what's the required packages to configure, make, etc
[12:49] <DaSkreech> apallo19: Maybe smbclinet?
[12:49] <mrono_> 2, how do I make the desktop change with the mouse
[12:49] <DaSkreech> apallo19: Smb4k I mean
[12:49] <DaSkreech> !b-e > mrono_
[12:50] <apallo19> that it found
[12:50] <apallo19> :)
[12:50] <DaSkreech> mrono_: Not sure what you mean
[12:50] <actinic> mrono_, answer to #1 i believe is 'build-essential'
[12:51] <mrono_> yep
[12:52] <mrono_> I want the desktop to change to the right when the mouse goes to the right side, as well as te left
[12:52] <mrono_> btw, it looks like someone deleted the configure page, it's still in the recent edits.
[12:53] <actinic> hey everyone i've started a kubuntu linux folding@home team ...
[12:53] <actinic> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7868.0
[12:53] <actinic> now let's catch Ubuntu :)
[12:53] <DaSkreech> How big are they?
[12:53] <actinic> huge
[12:54] <DaSkreech> Phat Huge?
[12:54] <apallo19> thank you soooo much daskreech
[12:54] <apallo19> it worked!@
[12:54] <actinic> even phatter
[12:54] <DaSkreech> apallo19: Jammin now?
[12:54] <apallo19> yepp
[12:55] <actinic> here's Ubuntu:  http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=45104
[12:56] <actinic> and here's us: http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=51238
[12:56] <actinic> :( see the difference?
[12:56] <larson999> !ati
[12:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:57] <DaSkreech> actinic: Not really. seems pretty close :)
[12:57] <actinic> lol, well they've got a bit of a head start :)
[12:58] <actinic> !windows
[12:58] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[12:58] <Firetech> I have a strange problem with kdm/X.org/The Kernel in Dapper (I update often, yes.). Everytime I cold-boot the machine (which thankfully isn't often), all I get is a black screen after the boot process. I can't switch to tty, I can't do anything. I have to press the reset button, but the next boot works fine. It happens everytime I cold boot, and sometimes when I reboot after a long uptime too...
[12:58] <Firetech> The syslog shows nothing strange
[12:59] <Firetech> It seems to be a kernel panic, since the machine isn't reachable via ssh...
[12:59] <larson999> so i went and done: i bought a computer with embedded ati.  i guess i'll see how the drivers are coming along.
[01:03] <LeeJunFan> larson999: laptop?
[01:03] <LeeJunFan> larson999: I'm happy to report that the newest drivers FINALLY will allow me to suspend to RAM.
[01:03] <hackman2007> build essential still won't build, it says "Invalid operation :(
[01:04] <gnomefreak> hackman2007: what command?
[01:04] <DaSkreech> hackman2007: What does?
[01:04] <hackman2007> sudo apt-get build-essential
[01:04] <gnomefreak> build essential isnt a command you use its a meta package
[01:04] <gnomefreak> install
[01:04] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:04] <gnomefreak> hackman2007: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:04] <Jucato> or better yet, "sudo aptitude install build-essential" (without the quotes)
[01:05] <mrono_> hmm
[01:05] <hackman2007> oh ok
[01:05] <hackman2007> I just typed in what I typed lol
[01:05] <DaSkreech> hackman2007: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:05] <larson999> LeeJunFan: no, i display model from circuit city.  was pretty packed for only $350.  my 6 year old mobo finally died and after telling my wife i'd need a mobo, cpu, and ram, she let me get a new system because all of that would have added up to nearly as much or more than that
[01:05] <mrono_> I'm doing a configure and it's looking for the 'x includes'
[01:05] <hackman2007> I didn't type the install part ;)
[01:05] <hackman2007> it's working now :D
[01:07] <mrono_> what do i need?
[01:07] <DaSkreech> mrono_: Just checking what are you installing?
[01:08] <mrono_> i'm configuring a modified version of lipstik
[01:08] <mrono_> I found what i'm looking for
[01:08] <mrono_> RMPL i guess
[01:08] <hackman2007> do I have to install a graphics driver for Kubuntu?
[01:09] <DaSkreech> hackman2007: Do you have graphics?
[01:09] <hackman2007> I have integrated graphics
[01:10] <DaSkreech> Umm. Well If you can see then I think that you should be good
[01:10] <hackman2007> lol
[01:11] <LeeJunFan> mrono_: you probably want x-dev, xserver-xorg-dev, x11proto-core-dev, libx11-dev   --- one of those may depend on the others, I don't recall.
[01:13] <henk> Hi, I have a sd cardreader in my laptop and I'm trying to use it. If I insert an sd card (2G), dmesg tells me that a mmcblk0 was found and it even shows the 2G. But If i do a cfdisk on it to create some partition tables the do not become persistant. Dmesg shows me an error about block0 not being read and about hardware interupts timeout. Does this sound familiar? does anyone know how to get this working ?
[01:24] <Pagan0ne> ok this is getting really annoying, i still cant get the xorg problem fixed, and it seems kubuntu is extreamly unstable on my system
[01:25] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: what xorg problem? and is the unstability known to be related or not to the xorg problem?
[01:27] <Dasnipa`> hmm can someone help me get the s/pdif digital output working on my soundcard?
[01:27] <apallo19> is there a terminal command to list the process that are running?
[01:27] <Dasnipa`> apallo19, top
[01:28] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: i just setup xorg to run nvidia drivers, with a dual head display, and when i changed the resolution, the desktop became larger than the monitor, causing a scrolling issue inside of each monitor. about the instability, im not sure, but it seems my system randomly hangs between 20-40 miniutes of uptime, i cannot telnet into it, and ctrl+alt+bk-space doesnt work, mouse still responds, but it stuck moving around on
[01:28] <apallo19> thanks
[01:28] <LeeJunFan> apallo19: ps - I like ps xauw
[01:28] <newbie_1000> Anyone know about installing Gecko on Konqueror?
[01:28] <Dasnipa`> apallo19, also ps -aux
[01:29] <newbie_1000> who's here?
[01:32] <Agios> If you want Gecko why not just use Firefox?
[01:32] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: im sorry did you get my last message, it seems i got disconnected....
[01:33] <newbie_1000> I like how Konqueror integrates with KDE. I know it can be done, but how?
[01:33] <Jucato> I don't think Gecko can be installed on Konqueror, as it uses its own engine (KHTML, on which Mac OS X's Safari is based)
[01:33] <newbie_1000> I know about KHTML, but I was googling and there is way to put Gecko into Konqueror as a KPart, KMozilla.
[01:34] <DaSkreech> Jucato: There is a thingy to switch the engien to gecko :)
[01:34] <Jucato> newbie_1000: that project was abandoned a few years ago
[01:34] <Jucato> DaSkreech: you're not talking about Browser Identification are you?
[01:34] <newbie_1000> really?
[01:34] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Nope :-P
[01:34] <Jucato> DaSkreech: care to share?
[01:35] <newbie_1000> rendering engine
[01:35] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: yeah. Sry - I haven't had the opportunity to play with nvidia or dual monitors so I'm afraid I can't be much help there.
[01:35] <Jucato> DaSkreech: open source your knowledge. :-D
[01:35] <newbie_1000> I like the integrated Gecko's. K-Meleon on windows, Galeon on GNOME, is there a QT Gecko?
[01:36] <DaSkreech> newbie_1000: Another abandoned project
[01:36] <taylor> can some tell me how to install azureus without the need to install mozilla, since i already have firefox
[01:36] <newbie_1000> so, XUL is the toolkit to use?
[01:36] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: yeah it got so annoying i had to boot back indo windows to chat, because every time i tried to get on irc to get help, i would get told to google it, or read the wiki, by the time i read and understood the wiki, and compaired it to my own settings, still to no avil, my system would freeze, and id need to reboot...
[01:37] <taylor> when i do an 'apt-get install azureus' it wants to install mozilla as a dep
[01:38] <Jucato> I thought Mozilla doesn't ship Gecko without Firefox as of now? an Ubuntu devs said that it's one of the reasons why Firefox can't be uninstalled in Ubuntu. But how come Epiphany ang Galen can use Gecko? (presuming Epiphany is using Gecko)
[01:40] <DaSkreech> Pagan0ne: No problem using one system to debug another
[01:41] <taylor> is there a no dependancy option for apt-get?
[01:41] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech: well i just cant figure out why a 2+ year old install of xp should be stanle but a brand new default install of kubunutu, with the only modification being im running nvidia drivers should be so unstable
[01:41] <newbie_1000> What do I have to do to configure WINE?
[01:42] <DaSkreech> sinecfg
[01:42] <hackman2007> how do I install firefox on Kubuntu?
[01:42] <DaSkreech> Pagan0ne: is it unstable before the drivers?
[01:42] <Jucato> hackman2007: sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:42] <DaSkreech> hackman2007: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[01:42] <newbie_1000> or use Add/Remove Programs.
[01:42] <newbie_1000> If you like GUIS
[01:43] <newbie_1000> *GUIs
[01:43] <hackman2007> nah I hate the Kubuntu GUI lol
[01:43] <hackman2007> sometimes it's just easier to do it with Konsole
[01:43] <taylor> is there a no dependency option for apt-get?  I don't know why I need to have mozilla for azureus, b/c i have firefox installed
[01:44] <paul_> lol @ DaSkreech
[01:44] <hackman2007> any good software I should look into?
[01:44] <taylor> and when i go to remove mozilla it unistalls azureus
[01:44] <newbie_1000> hope nothing breaks in this upgrade. It's got two minutes left of downloading.
[01:45] <hackman2007> ok I did that sudo command
[01:45] <hackman2007> anything else I have to do to install it?
[01:45] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech: arg this is so annoying, ive been wi it since like 3 today, and i cant get any help from anyone on irc, and although kubunutu works alot better on my system (asfar as having hardware support... i can accualy get dual heads up and running, and it now reconices my webcam and nic right off the bat) it is now more unstable than i can deal with and its just stressing me out
[01:45] <newbie_1000> hackman2007: I know you don't like the GUI, but it's great for browsing available software and stuff, even if you don't install with it
[01:45] <soulrider> !seen tk
[01:45] <ubotu> I last saw tk (i=tk@61.34.142.149) 18m 13s ago, quiting: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
[01:46] <soulrider> damn, i allways miss him!
[01:46] <DaSkreech> Pagan0ne: What's happening?
[01:46] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech: ive been waiting to change over to 100% linux now for like 5 years, and every time i look into it theres features on windows that linux doesnt have that i cant live without, not linux finally supports everything i need, its more unstable than windows
[01:46] <soulrider> anyways, does anoye have any idea of why i canm mount my usb drive manually but not using KDE?
[01:47] <Jucato> soulrider: are you using KDE 3.5.4?
[01:47] <maltaethiron> can i get azureus on kubuntu??
[01:47] <soulrider> yes
[01:47] <soulrider> until yesterday i ahd no problem
[01:47] <soulrider> but niw its screwed
[01:47] <Jucato> when did you upgrade to KDE 3.5.4?
[01:47] <soulrider> funny thing is i had a problem that fixed itself:
[01:47] <soulrider> uhm
[01:47] <soulrider> week ago?
[01:47] <soulrider> or more
[01:47] <Jucato> oh
[01:48] <Jucato> I think there's a bug with KDE 3.5.4 and HAL in Kubuntu...
[01:48] <soulrider> yea
[01:49] <soulrider> i upgraded hAL today
[01:49] <newbie_1000> hey, just curios, but which version of Debian does *Ubuntu correspond to?
[01:49] <maltaethiron> guys, can anyone tell me if azureus is available for kde?
[01:49] <soulrider> its weird
[01:49] <soulrider> i could mount my pen drive well but in home i didnt see my ntfs drives
[01:49] <Skrot> maltaethiron: It's java, so yes.
[01:49] <Jucato> AFAIK, Debian Sid
[01:49] <soulrider> now i see my ntfs drives but i cant mount
[01:49] <maltaethiron> !azureus
[01:49] <DaSkreech> Pagan0ne: What's Happening
[01:49] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[01:50] <taylor> maltaehiron you can get azureus with kubuntu
[01:50] <LeeJunFan> bah, just use ktorrent.
[01:51] <taylor> the problem is it just wants to install a bunch of deps like Mozilla for some reason
[01:51] <newbie_1000> I'd just as soon use KTorrent. I don't use torrent much anyways.
[01:51] <taylor> LeeJunFan does ktorrent offer the end to end encryption?
[01:51] <actinic> opera's bittorrent is quite nice
[01:51] <Skrot> It offers "protocol encryption"
[01:51] <LeeJunFan> taylor: the newest version 2.0 does if you compile from source.
[01:52] <soulrider> taylor it does
[01:52] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech: well my kds desktop doesnt fir on my monitor, ie when i mouse to the edge of the screen, ir scrolls more desktop onto the screen, and every 20-40 miniutes the system freezes completly, i cant telnet in, ctrl+alt+bk-space wont work, and the mouse is trapped on the monitor it was on, and everything is just locked, like kde went kaput and took everything but X with it. (ie i can move my mouse around on that monitor
[01:52] <Skrot> So.. is there an "official" ecryption protocol for bittorrent?
[01:52] <taylor> its not in the repos yet?
[01:52] <LeeJunFan> taylor: only for edgy
[01:52] <LeeJunFan> unstable
[01:52] <taylor> i moved away from gentoo b/c i got tired of compiling
[01:52] <actinic> Pagan0ne, is this issue repeatable using the liveCD?
[01:52] <taylor> but after all its only one program
[01:53] <LeeJunFan> Skrot: yeah, it's meant to confuse ISP's who limit or block filesharing.
[01:53] <Jucato> isn't there a KTorrent 2.0 .deb package for Dapper on their site?
[01:53] <Skrot> LeeJunFan: I see. My main concern was if there was a "standard" for it
[01:53] <taylor> i'll check it out, in the mean time does any1 know if there is option for no dependencies
[01:53] <Pagan0ne> Skrot: well it doesnt seem there will ever be an official encryption method as Bram Cohen doesnt beleave that is the answer to bittorrents problems
[01:53] <DaSkreech> Pagan0ne: have you tried #ubuntu-xgl or #nvidia ?
[01:53] <LeeJunFan> taylor: yeah, I agree with that. But like you said - it's only one program. I compile only a few things on my system, kopete, ktorrent and madwifi-ng, everything else is from repositories.
[01:53] <taylor> so i can say apt-get install <no deps=mozilla> azurues
[01:54] <goemon4> hey all, can anyone help me with openGL and sdl (on where to get them)
[01:54] <Skrot> Pagan0ne: I get that. But if a lot of clients deceide on one, it'll be the defacto way of encryping bittorrent :)
[01:54] <Pagan0ne> actinic: using the live-cd i cant get it to come up in dual display mode, as i needed to install the nvidia drivers to do that
[01:54] <Pagan0ne> actinic: as far as locking up i havent had it in live-cd mode long enough to find out, but i dont think so
[01:55] <taylor> i like to stick w/ ktorrent but for some reason some of the torrent files take forever to start in ktorrent, but then they load up right away on azureus
[01:55] <actinic> Pagan0ne, in your research are there issues with dual display?
[01:55] <taylor> azureus is a bit of a cpu hog
[01:55] <LeeJunFan> taylor: I had that problem too with the older versions, but as soon as I updated to 2.0 those files that had all been waiting forever started downloading.
[01:56] <Jucato> actually, it's more of a RAM hog, IIRC
[01:56] <taylor> well then ill give it a shot
[01:56] <Pagan0ne> actinic: i havent ever been able to find any information that is of any use to me for dual display systems, but no i havent seen anyone else complain of this problem, or of any other simmilar issues with dual head systems
[01:56] <taylor> i definitly like the ability to search within the client like ktorrent offers
[01:57] <taylor> nice ktorrent offers a deb on their site
[01:57] <taylor> for 2.0
[01:57] <taylor> http://ktorrent.org/index.php?page=downloads
[01:58] <willnapier> Hi is anyone out there? I'm new to irc
[01:58] <hackman2007> it won't let me get into add/remove programs anymore, it says "conversation with su failed"
[01:58] <willnapier> oo there is!
[01:58] <hackman2007> hi
[01:58] <DaSkreech> Skrot: What' about encryption?
[01:58] <willnapier> hi hackman
[01:58] <LeeJunFan> taylor: I tried that the other day and didn't get any plugins with it, so I compiled from source and was okay.
[01:59] <actinic> Pagan0ne, does this thread apply? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=468997
[01:59] <taylor> ok, ill will compile then
[02:00] <DaSkreech> willnapier: Hi
[02:00] <willnapier> Hi DaSkreech
[02:00] <DaSkreech> Welcome to IRC
[02:01] <willnapier> I'm looking for advice on getting KMobileTools up and running
[02:01] <willnapier> thanks
[02:01] <DaSkreech> Well I don't know what Kmobiletools are. Something to help you carry hammers?
[02:02] <Pagan0ne> actinic: well that doesnt rea;;y hit either of my issues on the head
[02:02] <DaSkreech> Pagan0ne: #nvidia ?
[02:02] <willnapier> Something to manage cellphone/mobilephone contacts
[02:02] <willnapier> from your pc
[02:02] <Pagan0ne> actinic: my first issue is that my desktop is larger than my monitor, unless i reduce my resolution to sompthing like 800x600 on my 19"monitor
[02:03] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech: i think its more of a xorg.conf problem than a driver problem, only reason i mentioned i was using nvidia drivers is because i couldnt even get dual display running w/o them
[02:03] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: can you put your /etc/X11/xorg.conf on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?
[02:03] <DaSkreech> Pagan0ne: Is it unstable before the drivers?
[02:04] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech well when i went back to running standard nv drivers i beleave it was just as unstable
[02:04] <actinic> if it's unstable with a liveCD it could be overheating or some other hardware prob
[02:05] <Pagan0ne> actinic: i dont think its a heat issue, my system runs pretty cool, and its stable in my 2+ yr old install of xp, ive had uptimes of months in my xp install
[02:07] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20606 i posted it, it is the file generated by the install, and kubunutu's own setup utilities....
[02:07] <DaSkreech> Pagan0ne: Do you have any logs of the crashes?
[02:09] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech: where could i go to look for the logs, i have looked at log files before, however they never make much sence to me...
[02:09] <DaSkreech> Erm.. the X logs?
[02:10] <DaSkreech> I forget gimmie a second
[02:11] <LeeJunFan>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log I think.
[02:11] <DaSkreech>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:12] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech: i have 2 log files, i just coppied over to my windows partition
[02:13] <DaSkreech> Man there should be a way to ignore / commands
[02:13] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech: to me the logs fdont show any signs of a crash or a panic
[02:14] <DaSkreech> Your system freezes though?
[02:14] <DaSkreech>  can you ssh in?
[02:14] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech: i cant ssh in and ctrl+alt+backspace doesnt work either
[02:14] <JRH3K5> !quota
[02:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quota - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:14] <JRH3K5> !disk quota
[02:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about disk quota - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:14] <JRH3K5> >:(\
[02:14] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: I thought I would see something in your config that would explain why your resolution was low, but view area was high, but nothing really.
[02:15] <DaSkreech> ssh in not working is a pretty bad sign
[02:15] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: well my resolution is high, but i can only see like 80% of the desktop on screen, if i move mouse to edge of screen, it scrolls over to show the rest of the desktop
[02:17] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: try running xwininfo in a shell, then click on your background image [not a window]  and see what it says for geometry.
[02:17] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: ah, you're not running it now are you?
[02:17] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech: the only log that shows signs of trouble is evms-engine.log
[02:17] <DaSkreech> Does the time seem about right?
[02:18] <rocketman768> anyone know how to use bluetooth with bitpim?
[02:18] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: no i booted into xp so i could stay on irc longer as previously i kept being told to read the man, or the wiki, and by the time i was done, my system was locked
[02:18] <rocketman768> or can anyone tell me what "port" i should direct bitpim to?
[02:18] <Pagan0ne> h/o let me see if i can setup another system so i can chat on that one while working on this one
[02:18] <belatucadros> I can't seem to get wine to install it saays package is missing or obsolete
[02:20] <DaSkreech> Pagan0ne: Wouldn't happen to have a live cd?
[02:21] <DaSkreech> belatucadros: Where are you installing it from?
[02:21] <belatucadros> CLI
[02:22] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech: yes thats what i installed off of, i just installed it today
[02:22] <DaSkreech> belatucadros: I mean what repository
[02:22] <belatucadros> lol nvm I somehow managed to fix it lol
[02:22] <belatucadros> I just disabled the DVD use for packages and enabled all the repositories guess that must have done it for it
[02:23] <dek> I don't know wtf happened but I now get KPersonalizer every time I boot Linux, the desktop runs extremely slow (even mouse pointer) and when it starts to work OK after some minutes, desktop becomes blank. When I reboot again I get KPersonalizer and this behaviour repeats. Any help?
[02:24] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: your desktop spans 2 monitors, when you move your mouse to the left edge does just one monitor scroll the image or does it scroll the whole image across both monitors?
[02:27] <DaSkreech> dek:turn off Kpersonalizer maybe?
[02:28] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: ok well say both monitors are on the far left, i start moving my mouse to the right, monitor 2 does nothing, mouse on monitor 1 moves toward edge of screen, mouse gets to what looks like the edge, instead of moving to monitor 2, it pushes the monitor over to view the other 20% of the desktop, then it rolls onto monitor 2, it then moves accrost monitor 2, and again when it gets to what looks like the egde, it pus
[02:28] <dek> uninstall?
[02:28] <dek> will remove, lets see if it helps
[02:29] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: so both monitors scroll but individually?
[02:29] <Pagan0ne> yes
[02:31] <declan> HI! anyone wanna do a Dr. House and help diagnose a problem with apt?
[02:31] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: there's an option called ViewPort for X that might help that, it looks like the default res when you boot is going to be 1280x1024 on the gateway, and 1024x768 on the other monitor. If you add ViewPort 1280 1024 line to the subsection display and 1024 768 to the other one it may fix the scrolling problem.
[02:32] <LeeJunFan> declan: it's pigeon poop, you've been growing your weed on the roof and pigeons are pooping in it - mad you sick.
[02:32] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: can you provide a breif example including the line above and below where this option should go?
[02:33] <DaSkreech> dek: You have it in the system tray?
[02:33] <dek> I now removed KPersonalizer to see if it helped but i still get extremely slow desktop at startup, then background turns black and icons disappear. What's wrong?
[02:33] <declan> damn! I forgot the first 3 diagnoses are always wrong! And Linux always lies
[02:33] <dek> no, only Konversation in tray
[02:34] <DaSkreech> declan: second opinon. You need some sysmptms to diagnose?
[02:35] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20608
[02:35] <Viper550> I made a nice new Grub splash, wanna see?
[02:36] <DaSkreech> Viper550: Why not?
[02:36] <Viper550> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=44238
[02:36] <DaSkreech> dek: Do you have a saved session?
[02:36] <Viper550> Goes nice with Kubuntu's new default colors
[02:36] <declan> I have internet connection as evidenced by me being here. Konqueror also works ok. However, apt-get cannot connect. I have tried many source lists including ones that are known to work fine. still, it just times out!
[02:36] <DaSkreech> declan: can you pastebin your sources?
[02:36] <belatucadros> damn mac users are azzhats
[02:37] <DaSkreech> belatucadros: All Computer users are :-)
[02:37] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: if you change your resolution then you'll want to change those viewports to match, by default X will start with the first resolution listed in modes line in display subsection, so if you later want to change your resolution just put the one you want first in the list.
[02:37] <belatucadros> I guess your right there
[02:37] <declan> sure, but im pretty sure its not that. I just reinstalled the system. Didn't help.
[02:37] <DaSkreech> declan: can You ping the servers?
[02:37] <belatucadros> this guy was telling me if I go out and buy the Mac OSX I can't legally install it on any hardware I want
[02:38] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: when it comes to manualy editing a config file, your talking to someone who could mess up editing a lilo.conf file with no problem
[02:38] <drbreen> blatucadros: can't you compile darwin for your pc and put os  files on top of it ?
[02:38] <LeeJunFan> declan: 2 things to verify. 1. you can DNS lookup the server (host [repository hostname] ), and that you're not using any kind of proxy.
[02:39] <dek> DaSkreech: manually you mean? How do I do that?
[02:39] <declan> pasted it. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20609
[02:39] <belatucadros> I was talking about buying a legit Mac OS and doing a plain from scratch install on an AMD system
[02:39] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf.working first.
[02:39] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: im loading up an old PII 266MHZ system so i can chat on irc while on my main box, h/o and i can get into some more indepth troubleshooting
[02:39] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: then you can restore from the working one later if needed.
[02:39] <belatucadros> not compiling necessary since the one I would purchase is the x86 edition
[02:39] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: ive already got 3 copys of it i know to backup before i start
[02:40] <declan> LeeJunFan: You'll have to talk me through those. I'm more or less a newbie.
[02:40] <belatucadros> and the only way for the ppl of mac to tell is if they were invading your privacy which is a huge no no
[02:40] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: it just seems whenever i take advice from strangers whatever they tell me never works, and what they tell me wont work, works
[02:41] <belatucadros> would be nice if I coudl get my copy of cedega to install on kubuntu but it doens't seem to want to
[02:41] <Pagan0ne> lol, my room now looks like hacker heaven, i got like 6 monitors, only 2 of which are actualy on a desk, the rest are sitting ontop of coverless cases, running old hardware :^
[02:42] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: well, like I said I'm not an nvidia or xinerama user, but that scrolling you are talking about would be caused by the viewport stuff, so I figured maybe I can help you with at least that one issue.
[02:42] <glj12> hi all!
[02:42] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: i would appreciate it, if you give me a second, and let this old dinasour boot, then i can log on from there, and if anything goes wrong maby ill have a better shot at fixing it
[02:43] <glj12> i absolutely kubuntu, just wanted to let you guys know, except for one problem...
[02:43] <glj12> konquerer is painfully slow for wifi, and my connection signal is very strong, and 3mbps dsl connection
[02:43] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[02:43] <glj12> so i wanted to use firefox instead
[02:43] <Commander-Crowe> I got Kubuntu today
[02:43] <LeeJunFan> declan: first I guess, can you open konsole and 'ping gb.archive.ubuntu.com' ?
[02:43] <glj12> sweet
[02:43] <DaSkreech> dek: I never said manually
[02:44] <glj12> but do you know how to install firefox?
[02:44] <Commander-Crowe> I want to install it right alongside with ubuntu and xubuntu
[02:44] <glj12> cool
[02:44] <Commander-Crowe> without removing Xubuntu and UBuntu
[02:44] <belatucadros> sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:44] <glj12> multi boot with grub?
[02:44] <Commander-Crowe> how is this accomplised>
[02:44] <glj12> i did that
[02:44] <glj12> let me give you the error message belatucadros
[02:44] <belatucadros> k
[02:44] <dek> DaSkreech: where does KDE save it's configuration files? maybe if I completely delete them...
[02:45] <glj12> However the following packages replace it:
[02:45] <glj12>   libnss3
[02:45] <glj12> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[02:45] <Commander-Crowe> no anser?
[02:45] <Commander-Crowe> answer*
[02:45] <glj12> Commander-Crowe: I am a noob, sorry. :(
[02:45] <belatucadros> did you try sudo apt-get update
[02:45] <belatucadros> and then the install
[02:45] <glj12> i am more of a knoppix guy
[02:45] <Commander-Crowe> I have the Kubuntu disc
[02:45] <glj12> i did, yes, and update stated...
[02:45] <Commander-Crowe> but no internet on that computer
[02:46] <belatucadros> well thats odd Ive never had that problem
[02:46] <glj12> Reading package lists... Done
[02:46] <glj12> thats all it says
[02:46] <glj12> then it goes back to the glj12@lordofatlantis blah blah
[02:46] <Pagan0ne> damn it takes forever for a 266Mhz machine to load up the latest kubunutu live cd :^
[02:46] <glj12> lol Pagan0ne
[02:46] <belatucadros> once the update is done just try again and if it still doesn't work Im not to sure what the prob could be
[02:47] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: it doesn't help if the CD drive is 2x or something :p
[02:47] <glj12> belatucadros: yeah, already done all of that
[02:47] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: lol its 24x, not that it matters much, it only has 100Mb sd ram
[02:47] <glj12> belatucadros: so i mean... no other ideas? :(
[02:47] <LeeJunFan> declan: you still there?
[02:47] <declan> LeeJunFan: Arghh. It won't stop; 64 bytes from gb.archive.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.182): icmp_seq=108 ttl=52 time=29.0 ms
[02:47] <belatucadros> could be maybe a repository but Im unsure on that one
[02:48] <LeeJunFan> declan: hit ctrl-c
[02:48] <glj12> hmm... can you refer me to anyone else?
[02:48] <rocketman768> how do i refer to a serial port on a bluetooth device?
[02:48] <declan> LeeJunFan: ah. good. So, does that mean its working or not working?
[02:48] <belatucadros> possibly DaSkreech
[02:48] <LeeJunFan> declan: you got responses so that means you CAN reach the servers, now try this 'ping -s 1472 -M do gb.archive.ubuntu.com' and see if that works.
[02:49] <Pagan0ne> lol its been 10 miniutes and its just now loading HAL
[02:49] <glj12> ok, thanks belatucadros
[02:49] <belatucadros> no probs
[02:49] <LeeJunFan> declan: that means you have a working route for traffic to pass between you and the repository, but now we need to figure out why it's not passing the traffic.
[02:49] <glj12> DaSkreech: Hi, are you around?
[02:49] <declan> LeeJunFan:
[02:49] <declan> 6 packets transmitted, 6 received, 0% packet loss, time 5004ms
[02:49] <declan> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 81.612/82.111/82.528/0.270 ms
[02:49] <glj12> DaSkreech: I am having dificulty retrieving firefox via apt-get and Adept.
[02:50] <declan> LeeJunFan: Seems to work there too.
[02:50] <LeeJunFan> declan: okay, that means it's not an MTU problem (honestly that was a far shot but since I just had one of those I figured I'd try) :p
[02:50] <Pagan0ne> oh yeah, i better burn another copy of the live cd to help troubleshoot this system :^who wants to bet it will be dont burning before the other system is done booting?
[02:50] <glj12> hmm... since no one at the moment can hel me with my firefox problem, can anyone help me with playing videos or hearing anything audio?
[02:50] <glj12> help*
[02:51] <LeeJunFan> declan: can you go to gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu in a browser succesfully?
[02:51] <rocketman768> glj12: you tried aptitude?
[02:51] <glj12> what is that?
[02:52] <glj12> i might have
[02:52] <rocketman768> go to a console, type "sudo aptitude"
[02:52] <Pagan0ne> done burning, and still no kdm yet
[02:52] <glj12> ok
[02:52] <glj12> i went there
[02:52] <glj12> no installed packages
[02:52] <declan> LeeJunFan: yep. although before I reinstalled kubuntu, firefox didn't work, while konqueror did. Not sure why one could connect and one could not. Seems apt is on firefoxes side
[02:52] <rocketman768> glj12: ok, now type "/firefox"
[02:53] <glj12> where?
[02:53] <glj12> in patitude?
[02:53] <rocketman768> yes
[02:53] <rocketman768> when you press the "/" key, it should bring up a search box
[02:53] <glj12> aptitude*
[02:53] <glj12> it does a search
[02:53] <glj12> oh, ok
[02:53] <rocketman768> right
[02:53] <glj12> some things come up
[02:54] <rocketman768> so, now press "n" untill you come to mozilla-firefox
[02:54] <rocketman768> or firefox
[02:54] <rocketman768> i forget which
[02:54] <rocketman768> probably just firefox
[02:54] <rocketman768> then press the "+" key to tell it you want to get it
[02:55] <rocketman768> then press "g" (you may have to do it twice) to download and install
[02:55] <Pagan0ne> whats the best console IRC client included on the live-cd?
[02:55] <glj12> ok
[02:55] <glj12> wait, n?
[02:55] <glj12> it dings
[02:55] <glj12> or, does the bell thing
[02:55] <glj12> wow, what
[02:55] <glj12> mmm
[02:55] <glj12> let me list you what it says if thats alrght
[02:56] <rocketman768> glj12: the dinging means it didn't come up with a match
[02:56] <larson9999> new computer!  i'm stylin now.  finally got rid of the gremlins
[02:56] <glj12> acpi-support
[02:56] <glj12> acpid
[02:56] <DaSkreech> glj12: What's the issue?
[02:56] <glj12> anacron
[02:56] <glj12> apmd, ap, apt-utils, aptitude, at
[02:56] <glj12> sorry to bother you too
[02:56] <glj12> i just want firefox
[02:56] <glj12> :)
[02:56] <larson9999> i thought my old one was fast enough.  this one smokes it
[02:56] <LeeJunFan> declan: in your /etc/apt/apt.conf file does the AcquireProxy line say true or false?
[02:57] <rocketman768> why doesn't "sudo apt-get install firefox" work?
[02:57] <nikkiana> hey... what's the best ftp program?
[02:57] <glj12> it states something else
[02:57] <glj12> um..
[02:57] <glj12> it reccomends something else
[02:57] <glj12> its weird
[02:58] <rocketman768> "it"?
[02:58] <glj12> and now i cant get it to do it again. >.<
[02:58] <glj12> h/o
[02:58] <declan> LeeJunFan: says false
[02:58] <glj12> crud
[02:58] <glj12> how do i kill aptitude
[02:58] <LeeJunFan> declan: can you pastebin your results of running 'sudo apt-get update'
[02:58] <rocketman768> "q"
[02:59] <glj12> i did killall aptitude and tha worked
[02:59] <glj12> :)
[02:59] <glj12> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:59] <glj12> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:59] <glj12> is only available from another source
[02:59] <glj12> However the following packages replace it:
[02:59] <glj12>   libnss3
[02:59] <glj12> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[02:59] <declan> LeeJunFan: Sure
[02:59] <glj12> thats what it said when i did that
[02:59] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Hi again :)
[02:59] <nikkiana> hi DaSkreech
[02:59] <rocketman768> glj12: hmm
[02:59] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, i'm looking for recommendations for an FTP program.
[02:59] <glj12> see that too DaSkreech?
[03:00] <LeeJunFan> nikkiana: lftp, ncftp, konqueror
[03:01] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: kBear
[03:01] <DaSkreech> glj12: try sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[03:02] <rocketman768> glj12: i would suspect this is a problem in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[03:02] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: If you like GUI :)
[03:02] <rocketman768> check it and see if you have lines that look like "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe"
[03:02] <Jucato> err... Firefox is in main
[03:03] <Jucato> not in universe
[03:03] <rocketman768> jucato: just an example
[03:03] <Jucato> oh
[03:03] <glj12> mmm
[03:03] <glj12> blah
[03:03] <glj12> can you guys see me?
[03:03] <Jucato> :-D
[03:04] <glj12> BLAH!
[03:04] <glj12> stupid wifi
[03:04] <glj12> sorry, i missed a lot
[03:04] <glj12> what were you guys saying?
[03:04] <glj12> before my wifi dies again
[03:04] <rocketman768> gjl12: looking at /etc/apt/sources.list?
[03:04] <glj12> want me to go there?
[03:05] <LeeJunFan> glj12: get rid of the 2.4GHz phone.
[03:05] <rocketman768> glj12: see if you have a line that says "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted"
[03:05] <glj12> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[03:05] <glj12> #deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main
[03:05] <glj12> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[03:05] <glj12> #deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main
[03:05] <glj12> # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[03:05] <glj12> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[03:05] <LeeJunFan> !paste
[03:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:05] <rocketman768> glj12: ahhhh
[03:05] <rocketman768> there's yer problem
[03:06] <glj12> ?
[03:06] <rocketman768> glj12: uncomment those lines (take out the pound sign)
[03:06] <glj12> LeeJunFan: No 2.4ghz phone.
[03:06] <rocketman768> the ones that start with "deb"
[03:06] <glj12> oh, alright
[03:06] <glj12> kays
[03:06] <declan> LeeJunFan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20611
[03:06] <glj12> wonder why it was commented
[03:06] <glj12> :(
[03:06] <LeeJunFan> those are all only security - there's no main, etc, in his list.
[03:07] <rocketman768> worth a shot
[03:07] <declan> LeeJunFan: that guy, glj12 seems to have a similar problem.
[03:07] <glj12> erm...
[03:07] <glj12> chown is my friend?
[03:07] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Where did you get married?
[03:08] <declan> LeeJunFan: mine failed to verify at installation too.
[03:08] <rocketman768> lol, might want to try "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[03:08] <glj12> :)
[03:08] <Jucato> err.. kdesu kate...
[03:08] <glj12> kays
[03:08] <Jucato> !kdesu
[03:08] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[03:09] <Pagan0ne> still loading......
[03:09] <rocketman768> muck up eh?
[03:09] <glj12> i uncommented all of those deb things at the end
[03:09] <glj12> nope, same schpeal
[03:09] <glj12> :(
[03:09] <rocketman768> oh well
[03:09] <glj12> update works though
[03:09] <glj12> :)
[03:09] <glj12> well, thats a start
[03:10] <glj12> right?
[03:10] <rocketman768> do you even have the line i pasted above?
[03:10] <glj12> what do you mean
[03:10] <glj12> what line, where>
[03:10] <glj12> ?
[03:11] <LeeJunFan> declan: see the 1.0.0.0 after the repos hostname? that's the IP apt thinks the repository is at - which obviously is wrong.
[03:11] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, I got married at Pats Peak in Henniker, NH
[03:11] <rocketman768> glj12: "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted"
[03:11] <declan> LeeJunFan: Cool. so why does it think that?
[03:12] <declan> LeeJunFan: Do I have an idiot APT?
[03:12] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: :-) sounds like somewhere I used to live
[03:12] <LeeJunFan> declan: I'm not sure - I've heard of this before but I don't know the proper solution.
[03:12] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, i'm attempting to set up gallery at the moment so i can upload pictures of the wedding :)
[03:12] <glj12> oh, no
[03:12] <glj12> wait...
[03:12] <glj12> what the hell, worthless ctrl f
[03:12] <glj12> it couldnt find it before. :P
[03:12] <glj12> yeah, i see it now
[03:12] <glj12> but its commented, so it shouldnt work, right?
[03:13] <rocketman768> right, uncomment it
[03:13] <glj12> oh, ok
[03:13] <LeeJunFan> declan: for now - edit /etc/hosts, add the following line '82.211.81.182 gb.archive.ubuntu.com'
[03:13] <declan> LeeJunFan: Oh. Not good. Seemed to happen overnight. Could it be to do with my home network?
[03:13] <LeeJunFan> declan: you could try restarting your router.
[03:13] <larson9999> ok, well i don't have opengl yet on this ati card
[03:13] <glj12> broken packages now
[03:14] <declan> LeeJunFan: tried that. But its worth trying again
[03:14] <glj12>  firefox: Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.9.0) but it is not installable
[03:14] <glj12>            Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.8.0) but it is not installable
[03:14] <glj12>            Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.12.2) but it is not installable
[03:15] <Pagan0ne> heh, i just got done watching vanishing point :^
[03:15] <rocketman768> glj12: hm, did you try an upgrade from a previous version of kubuntu?
[03:16] <LeeJunFan> declan: how about pastebin your /etc/resolv.conf file as well - so I can see what DNS servers your system is using.
[03:16] <declan> LeeJunFan: should it look like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20613
[03:17] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: cool send me a link :)
[03:17] <glj12> i am with the latest version atm
[03:17] <glj12> only one i've used
[03:17] <glj12> wow
[03:17] <glj12> my wifi is very crappy
[03:17] <glj12> rocketman768: ?
[03:17] <glj12> mmmm
[03:17] <LeeJunFan> declan: yeah, come to think of it you'll need one for 195.248.90.23 security.ubuntu.com - as well.
[03:17] <declan> LeeJunFan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20614
[03:18] <glj12> did i miss anything you said rocketman768?
[03:18] <Scak> mmm, anyone know a codecs package that contains mpeg layer 2/3 audio for kaffeine?
[03:18] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, i will.... as soon as i figure out how to upload photos to a Gallery2 gallery :P
[03:18] <rocketman768> glj12: you come in and go out and like 5 of your posts appear at once
[03:18] <rOOb> !wireless
[03:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:19] <LeeJunFan> declan: try running 'dig' in a console to see if you have it.
[03:19] <glj12> rocketman768: ew, i'm sorry, why s my wifi so shitty?
[03:19] <glj12> is*
[03:19] <glj12> i have a negear 108mbps router
[03:19] <LeeJunFan> declan: using dig we can see which of those 2 dns servers is giving bogus info.
[03:19] <glj12> the thing is that i am connected to utcht constantly, maybe its this server
[03:19] <pp> algun espaol
[03:19] <rocketman768> pp: yo si
[03:20] <declan> LeeJunFan:
[03:20] <declan> ; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>>
[03:20] <declan> ;; global options:  printcmd
[03:20] <declan> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[03:20] <pp> de donde eres
[03:20] <glj12> rocketman768: anyway, ideas?
[03:20] <rocketman768> pp: estados unidos pero soy medio chileno
[03:21] <LeeJunFan> declan: cool, try this 'dig @192.168.1.1 gb.archive.ubuntu.com' then try with the other DNS server 192.168.123.254
[03:21] <pp> yo de espaa
[03:21] <rocketman768> glj12: maybe you can do some sort of upgrade to fix the broken packages
[03:21] <glj12> how can i do that, in what way do you mean
[03:22] <pp> hablais del kubuntu
[03:22] <LeeJunFan> declan: one of them will probably give you a line under ANSWER SECTION with A 1.0.0.0 - that's the bad DNS server.
[03:22] <rocketman768> pp: tienes algun problema?
[03:23] <pp> no, me ha costado bastante configurarme la distro , pero para mi guto la tengo perfecta
[03:23] <glj12> rocketman768: i got adept to show things, and now they are always broken installs
[03:23] <glj12> broken files and what not
[03:24] <rocketman768> glj12: there is a "resolver" in aptitude if that helps
[03:24] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Hmm I played with that once
[03:24] <declan> LeeJunFan: both in pastebin
[03:25] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, it's.... interesting.
[03:25] <rocketman768> pp: si...siempre es dificil configurar linux. Pues, para mi lo es. Ahora tengo un problema con el bluetooth, pero el Kubuntu es mas o menos weno
[03:25] <glj12> ok rocketman768
[03:26] <glj12> what about audio/video problems
[03:26] <glj12> any good with that?
[03:26] <rocketman768> gjl12: such as?
[03:27] <glj12> erm, i get a black screen fr video
[03:27] <glj12> and i get no sound
[03:27] <glj12> =/
[03:27] <rocketman768> glj12: using what program?
[03:28] <LeeJunFan> declan: well they both report the correct address, but the 192.168.123.254 seems to leave out some stuff.
[03:28] <pp> siento no poder ayudarte, ne tengo bluetooth, y no se configurarlo, si es que tu problema es de configuracion
[03:28] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, photo album applications and me just don't seem to mesh, it seems....
[03:28] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: It's apache based?
[03:28] <declan> LeeJunFan: Just tried apt again and got this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20617
[03:29] <LeeJunFan> declan: that means it's working but because of the /etc/hosts entry which is a kludge, unfortunately it may be the only thing we have to make it work.
[03:30] <LeeJunFan> declan: a working kludge is better than no kludge I guess. :p
[03:30] <rocketman768> glj12: still there?
[03:31] <declan> LeeJunFan: does that mean we leave it as a mystery? Is it a common problem? Has it happened recently as a result of an update or a kernal change?
[03:31] <rocketman768> pp: ah, entonces, como esta espana? que hay de contar?
[03:31] <glj12> back
[03:31] <glj12> sorry
[03:32] <pp> mucho calor
[03:32] <LeeJunFan> declan: it's one of those dns servers not playing nice, but why? who knows...
[03:32] <glj12> it was that coffee bean looking program, kaffiene or something?
[03:32] <declan> LeeJunFan: thank-you very very much. I really appreciate your time. If you believe in God, may he bless you and if not, may fate treat you well.
[03:32] <larson9999> if i installed the fglrx drivers properly for this ati radeon express 200 embedded card, shoul opengl stuff work fast?  or does ati suck that much?
[03:32] <scotty> Hello. I'm a brand new Kubuntu user (installing on my laptop as we speak, actually), as my Windows XP was corrupted and I decided instead of reinstalling and suffering through the pains of microsoft again, I'd just use Linux. I have a small question. Kubuntu will be running on a cheap dell, and it seems the wireless card isn't working. I'd assume this is because the drivers for it were Windows based. I still have the CD with the wireless card's dri
[03:32] <scotty> vers on it, but I think they are for Windows. How would I go about getting my wireless card to be recognized?
[03:32] <rocketman768> gjl12: i've never gotten kaffeine to work properly. You might check out mplayer and see if that works for you
[03:33] <LeeJunFan> declan: just remember that if sometime in the future you can't reach the repositories it could be related to the /etc/hosts changes we made. If the IP address for the gb repos changes your machine will be looking in the wrong place for them.
[03:33] <glj12> oh, ok rocketman768
[03:33] <rocketman768> pp: lo mismo aca...como 33C normalmente
[03:33] <farous> larson9999: fglrx is not for that card
[03:33] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: What have you done so far?
[03:33] <glj12> and what might you reccomend for sound?
[03:33] <pp> mas o menos como aqui
[03:33] <declan> LeeJunFan: so I'll need to go to etc/hosts and change the ip address that relates to the repo?
[03:33] <larson9999> farous: oops! what is?
[03:33] <LeeJunFan> larson9999: should be fast, run fglrxinfo and see if it says the vendor is ATI.
[03:34] <LeeJunFan> declan: yes, if it ever changes.
[03:34] <archangel__> which is the BEST p2p software for linux?
[03:34] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, i installed it..... and now i don't know what to do next....
[03:34] <declan> LeeJunFan: or if I want to add another repo like the PLF?
[03:34] <rocketman768> pp: en que parte vives?
[03:34] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: How did you install it?
[03:34] <pp> alicante
[03:34] <larson9999> LeeJunFan: OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[03:34] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, I cheated and used Fantastico because the host I'm on doesn't have shell access (but I don't pay for it so beggers can't be choosey)
[03:35] <pp> lo conoces
[03:35] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[03:35] <LeeJunFan> declan: depends on if it can resolve it w/o hacking up hosts, problem is that you may find other sites you can't get to w/o figuring out the root of the problem.
[03:35] <DFM> scotty, you need to check and see if it is listed as a supported card.
[03:35] <DaSkreech> fantasico?
[03:35] <steve___> can anyone jog my memory a little...  I lost my hdd and installed kubuntu on my dell 700m and now fn+esc doesn't put it to stand by...  i know i had to wrestle with it 8 months ago to get it to work and currently my brain is drawing a blank
[03:35] <DFM> if not you may be able to get it to work with ndiswrapper
[03:35] <scotty> DFM, where do I go to check that, and what happens if it isn't a supported card
[03:35] <LeeJunFan> you could manually remove one of the nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf and see if it fixes the problem w/o the lines in hosts.
[03:35] <LeeJunFan> declan: ^^
[03:36] <farous> larson9999: oh is it xpress 200
[03:36] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, the trouble is i'm kinda confused as to what i'm supposed to do if i want to upload using FTP.... i've always just used the Gallery Remote when I've used it in the past, I'm not a big fan of that method though.... you can upload to Gallery using F-Spot but F-Spot seems to be VERY prone to crashing.
[03:36] <declan> LeeJunFan:  thanks again. I'm off to download a million updates. Take care!
[03:36] <LeeJunFan> declan: in either hosts or resolv.conf you can simply comment out lines by putting # in front of them.
[03:36] <DFM> I spent a week trying to get 3 different cards working and just gave up and bought one that was linux supported
[03:36] <LeeJunFan> declan: no prob.
[03:36] <declan> LeeJunFan: I'll try that
[03:36] <rocketman768> pp: m, no...no creo. Es una region muy populada?
[03:36] <DFM> let me see if i can find you a link
[03:36] <larson9999> farous: yeah.
[03:36] <farous> larson9999: sorry i take it back i miss read it
[03:36] <DFM> or I can tell you what card i bought that worked out of the box
[03:37] <pp> esta en el este del pais
[03:37] <farous> larson9999: do you have the kernel package installed
[03:37] <pp> a nivel de turismo es bastante conocida
[03:37] <larson9999> farous: so it should be fast.  for instance, chromium should play at normal speed.  i followed this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3713
[03:37] <scotty> DFM, I'd prefer not to have to spend money
[03:37] <farous> larson9999: integrated cards are not that fast
[03:37] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Well I'd just guess it would make a folder called Gallery that you can upload stuff to
[03:37] <farous> larson9999: test if it is running properly
[03:38] <scotty> So I may take the ndiswrap route if it isn't supported.
[03:38] <farous> fglrxinfo
[03:38] <scotty> *ndiswrapper
[03:38] <larson9999> farous: i know that but i figure it should be fast enough for chromium.  my old nvidia 16mb card runs it pretty fast
[03:38] <rocketman768> pp: m, todavia no he viajado a europa
[03:38] <rocketman768> pp: tu viajas mucho?
[03:38] <farous> larson9999: do you know if it is config properly is 3-d accel supported
[03:39] <DaSkreech> rocketman768: Spanish?
[03:39] <rocketman768> DaSkreech: yeah
[03:39] <DFM> give me a minute
[03:39] <DaSkreech> !es
[03:39] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:39] <larson9999> farous: i don't know.  i'm totally new to ati.  always used nvidia.  here is what flglxinfo says: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3713
[03:39] <DFM> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[03:40] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, you'd think that.... but it doesn't seem to work that way.... it wants me to set up some sort of tmp folder to upload to and i'm confused because the directions are a little ambiguous.
[03:40] <pp> por lo poquito que entiendo el ingles, veo que la gente expone aqui sus problemas con la distro y no quiero molestar.
[03:40] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Where are the directions?
[03:40] <pp> bye
[03:40] <DFM> you can find the card I have for about $37
[03:40] <declan> LeeJunFan:Just for your notes, that didn't work. Looks like the workaround is the best I can do at the mo. Thanks though. Its still a big help!
[03:40] <scotty> okay, thanks DFM
[03:40] <farous> larson9999: in a terminal type fglrxinfo. if it returned it is using ati or fglrx driver it is ok. also glxinfo |grep render. if it said direct rendering=yes you are in the clear
[03:40] <DFM> np
[03:41] <rocketman768> pp: no te tienes que ir
[03:41] <DFM> for your info i have only been runinng kubuntu for 2 weeks
[03:41] <DFM> and i was able to get wi-fi up so it isn't a real big deal
[03:42] <larson9999> farous: it doesn't say anything about a driver. renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:42] <silentdawn> my kubuntu gives me sound in my messengers but not my media playersm or internet....wtf is up with that?
[03:42] <farous> larson9999: you do not have 3-D accel yet
[03:42] <LeeJunFan> declan: you commented (#) out the lines we put in /etc/hosts and one of the nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf? if so try the other nameserver and try again? One of them has got to be bad.
[03:42] <larson9999> !ati
[03:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:42] <farous> larson9999: did you install the fglrx driver from the repos
[03:42] <rocketman768> anybody know about bluetooth?
[03:43] <DFM> rocketman, what do you want to know?
[03:43] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, i sent you a PM seeing as we've deviated greatly from Kubuntu ;)
[03:43] <larson9999> farous: yeah.  i followed instructions from a site.  i'm looking at the instructions recommended here now
[03:43] <silentdawn> i need soiund in my media players!!!help!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:43] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Umm
[03:43] <DaSkreech> Where? :-)
[03:43] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: You have some kinda instant messenger?
[03:44] <farous> larson9999: ok there is another package you need. sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[03:44] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, Like as in the PMs on IRC?
[03:44] <rocketman768> silentdawn: what media player?
[03:44] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Like i didn't see it :) are you registered?
[03:44] <DaSkreech> silentdawn: WHat are you trying to play?
[03:44] <silentdawn> amarok
[03:45] <nikkiana> whoops!
[03:45] <silentdawn> shoutcast stream
[03:45] <nikkiana> i forgot to put my password in. D'oh!
[03:45] <silentdawn> i got sound in my messengers but a damn thing else
[03:45] <Jucato> I'm having problems creating the Application Index for KHelpCenter. it always fails. anyone else experiencing this?
[03:46] <declan> LeeJunFan: I did that. I ran apt twice each time with a different nameserver commented out (and the hosts we added also commented out) each time the connection timed out trying to go to 1.0.0.0
[03:46] <LeeJunFan> declan: Do you have a dlink router?
[03:46] <Agios> silentdawn: kmix, raise all the vars, click all the green buttons
[03:46] <rocketman768> silentdawn: it's most likely something easy to fix, but xmms always works for me so you might try "sudo apt-get install xmms"
[03:46] <Agios> uh, not vars, bars
[03:46] <larson9999> farous: i installed that already
[03:47] <DaSkreech> silentdawn: Did you install MP3 support?
[03:47] <declan> LeeJunFan: I think its a safecom. I have tried using direct connection to the modem-router but same result.
[03:47] <silentdawn> i installed anything kubuntu told me to...and some extra but nothing in the driver sense
[03:48] <farous> larson9999: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:48] <farous> will tell you what is wrong
[03:48] <DaSkreech> silentdawn: Ok more explicitly did you install libxine-extracodecs?
[03:48] <silentdawn> nope
[03:48] <LeeJunFan> declan: Everything I can google tells me that it's your router, although most complaints seem to be d-link, the solution is always to upgrade firmware.
[03:49] <DaSkreech> silentdawn: Install that :)
[03:49] <silentdawn> whaere woulod i come by"that"?
[03:49] <Agios> Jucato: I had a problem with khelpcenter after installation but the problem went away after a reboot.
[03:49] <jontec> Hola. I just installed mySQL. ^_^ So how do I use it?
[03:50] <Agios> jontec: you know SQL?
[03:50] <jontec> nope
[03:50] <jontec> I'm just going to the mySQL site to get documentation
[03:50] <Agios> perhaps a SQL tutorial would be a good place to start.
[03:50] <DaSkreech> !multiverse . silentdawn
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multiverse . silentdawn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <DaSkreech> !multiverse > silentdawn
[03:52] <declan> LeeJunFan: I have a safecom modem/router connected to a safecom 4 port router. Since the problem seems to be there when I use only the modem/router, I'll try upgrading its firmware. Cheers!
[03:52] <silentdawn> i just want sumthin quick to install to fix my chick man
[03:52] <LeeJunFan> declan: good luck.
[03:53] <DaSkreech> silentdawn: Open adept
[03:53] <silentdawn> if i had it......
[03:53] <silentdawn> oopos thinkin of wrong program lol
[03:54] <larson9999> farous: there is a repo i need to install.  security or something i think but i'm not sure.  i'm also new to unbunt but i had to do that a couple weeks ago with my nvidia card.
[03:54] <scotty> Has anyone here ever used ndiswrapper for a Dell 1350 wireless card?
[03:54] <thompa> too many web sites using flash 8 or something
[03:54] <Agios> artsplay some.wav :)
[03:54] <farous> !info fglrx
[03:54] <ubotu> Package fglrx does not exist in dapper
[03:55] <thompa> !flash
[03:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:55] <jontec> Okay, question. I'm at documentation for mySQL. the mysql-server-5.0 is version 5.0, correct?
[03:55] <farous> !info xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:55] <ubotu> xorg-driver-fglrx: Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 7.0.0-8.25.18+2.6.15.11-3 (dapper), package size 10309 kB, installed size 29468 kB
[03:56] <farous> larson9999: the driver is in restricted repos. do not know what security have to do with it
[03:57] <thompa> so flash 8 only works with windows, why are so many sites using it then
[03:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> Because most people are using WIndows.
[03:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> Flash 8 also works with a mac. Just not Linux. ;)
[03:57] <Agios> cause they don't care if the 3% liunx world can see their site or not
[03:58] <DaSkreech> And Amiga!
[03:58] <thompa> but so many of these sites seem independant or something, whats up with their IT
[03:58] <thompa> well myspace is total garbage anyway
[03:58] <Agios> thompa: they have a "Contact Us", ask them :)
[03:58] <rocketman768> real html is considered obsolete which is a shame
[03:59] <thompa> i will
[03:59] <larson9999> farous: i forgot where i found that but the deal for the nvidia driver was that the kernel was upgraded and in the regular repos but the nvidia driver upgrade wasn't in the regular repos but in security(or something like that).  or vice versa.
[03:59] <thompa> good idea, esp. if its an indy media type site, they should support linux
[03:59] <farous> larson9999: ok good luck never heared of it myself
[04:00] <DaSkreech> silentdawn: You ok?
[04:00] <AtKaaZ> hi, does anyone know how to setup ssl for apache2 under kubuntu 6.06 ?
[04:01] <larson9999> farous: my kernel is 2.6.15-23-386.  i'm guessing that since fglxr is 2.6.15.11-3 it's not loading and giving the error in the xorg log
[04:01] <silentdawn> wwwwwwwwwwwwwoooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhooooooooooo thats right thats techno commin from my linuk OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH
[04:01] <silentdawn> linux*lol
[04:01] <farous> larson9999: yah that might cause a prob
[04:02] <silentdawn> the xmms made a difference
[04:02] <DaSkreech> silentdawn: Nice AOL keyboard
[04:02] <thompa> so what is the alternative to site development instead of flash, ive never used it.
[04:02] <DaSkreech> silentdawn: ok as long as you are happy "_
[04:02] <larson9999> farous: same exact prob with nivida card a while back.  somewhere i found a site that said what repo to add but now i have a new system and forgot:)   and i'm assuming it's the same thing here
[04:02] <DaSkreech> Gnash
[04:02] <silentdawn> wtf does that mean?
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> Gnu Flash (or something like that)
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> !gnash
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <DaSkreech> silentdawn: I was going to get mp3 working in Amarok for you but if xmms makes you happy Go ahead :)
[04:03] <thompa> ok thanks
[04:03] <DaSkreech> !info gnash
[04:03] <ubotu> Package gnash does not exist in dapper
[04:03] <farous> larson9999: did you try installing it from the ati provided installer. the howto tell you how to generate deb files from that
[04:03] <silentdawn> lol w/e plays my techno makes me happy
[04:04] <DaSkreech> silentdawn: Ok Now that it jamming want some help in getting the rest of your players to play it?
[04:04] <DaSkreech> Or not
[04:05] <thompa> i found something called freescale
[04:05] <thompa> nevermind thats flash ram
[04:05] <archangel__> has anyone here used 3d desktop?
[04:06] <archangel__> it looks cool as crap
[04:06] <thompa> is 3d desktop in repos?
[04:06] <DaSkreech> archangel__: That depends on how much you like crap I take it
[04:06] <archangel__> lol
[04:06] <archangel__> I enjoy letting it go
[04:06] <thompa> oh, is that the one where you see the little box,
[04:06] <DaSkreech> thompa: It's lilke the first thing in it :)
[04:07] <archangel__> thompa: not sure
[04:07] <thompa> i was running compiz for a while, but its a mess
[04:07] <thompa> at least it did something strange to xubuntu
[04:07] <ErikTheRed> is security.ubuntu.com down right now?
[04:08] <larson9999> farous no.  but i think i found the site i saw before.  i'll see of the same repos work for this.  if not i'll got that route.
[04:09] <farous> :)
[04:09] <posthuman> hey does anyone know of a program that can convert FLV to AVI or MPG?
[04:09] <silentdawn> what is a good dvd player for kubuntu?
[04:09] <ErikTheRed> vlc plays dvds and just about any other media format well
[04:10] <silentdawn> anything i can just snag from adept?
[04:10] <archangel__> what does kubuntu have to download mp3's?
[04:10] <ErikTheRed> vlc is in adept
[04:10] <silentdawn> tight
[04:11] <ErikTheRed> archangel: what do you mean by "download mp3's"
[04:11] <actinic> loose
[04:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> archangel__: wget?
[04:12] <archangel__> hmmm, dont rememeber seeing that
[04:12] <Ertain> Does anyone know an alternative to the Mac OS X Fontbook?
[04:12] <posthuman> archangel: use museek
[04:12] <posthuman> very good program
[04:12] <posthuman> but you have to compile it
[04:14] <posthuman> http://www.museek-plus.org/
[04:15] <groovis> question: how the hell do I change the kubuntu animated icon in kde?
[04:16] <ErikTheRed> which icon?
[04:16] <groovis> the one when Konq is already open - you click it and it gives you a new window
[04:17] <groovis> I can't seem to do it from the toolbar properites, but other icons will change easily
[04:17] <groovis> from the same location...
[04:17] <ErikTheRed> i seem to recall seeing that there is a way to do it, just can't remember right now...
[04:18] <Ertain> Hey, I never thought of changing that.  Interesting. :-S
[04:18] <groovis> well, the kubuntu icon they picked is ugly...
[04:19] <groovis> besides, it doesn't match the rest of my icons...
[04:19] <ErikTheRed> i think i found it
[04:19] <groovis> shoot
[04:19] <ErikTheRed> so within konqueror go to settings->configure toolbars
[04:19] <groovis> yeah...I've already changed it from there
[04:20] <ErikTheRed> oh
[04:20] <ErikTheRed> does it not work when you do that
[04:20] <groovis> it shows in there that it's changed, but the icon hasn't changed.
[04:20] <groovis> nope.
[04:20] <ErikTheRed> hmm
[04:20] <groovis> and it's the only one that doesn't change
[04:20] <groovis> I can change all the others that way...just not this one.
[04:20] <silentdawn> anything i can snag from adept that will allow me to download media?
[04:21] <ErikTheRed> groovis: that is rather strange
[04:21] <groovis> ain't it?
[04:21] <ErikTheRed> silentdawn: what exactly do you mean
[04:21] <silentdawn> video,music,files shite like that
[04:21] <groovis> silentdawn: go to a music store. Pay.
[04:21] <ErikTheRed> yeah really
[04:22] <silentdawn> not all can afford
[04:22] <ErikTheRed> that's a terrible excuse
[04:22] <groovis> apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[04:22] <ErikTheRed> the loser left...
[04:22] <groovis> lol
[04:22] <ErikTheRed> the support channel is hardly the place to ask for P2P software
[04:22] <groovis> no kidding
[04:22] <groovis> so..I'm stumped.
[04:23] <groovis> I can't even figure out what the icon is called
[04:23] <DaSkreech> Woot!! I got songbird working
[04:23] <DaSkreech> Have to install gnome stuff though
[04:24] <pterandon> hi
[04:24] <pterandon> security.ubuntu.com is down?  Well, it's hanging up for me on first updates just after install.  :(
[04:25] <ErikTheRed> pterandon: yeah i'm running into the same problem
[04:25] <pterandon> I do apt-get update, and this one times out:   195.248.90.23
[04:25] <ErikTheRed> it won't even return pings
[04:25] <pterandon> okay.  I am so glad you're having the problem, Erik.
[04:25] <pterandon> :) It means I'm neither insane nor an idiot!
[04:26] <ErikTheRed> that's always good
[04:26] <groovis> ping 195.248.90.23
[04:26] <groovis> PING 195.248.90.23 (195.248.90.23) 56(84) bytes of data.
[04:26] <groovis> 64 bytes from 195.248.90.23: icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=101 ms
[04:26] <groovis> 64 bytes from 195.248.90.23: icmp_seq=2 ttl=51 time=100 ms
[04:26] <pterandon> oh wait it went
[04:26] <groovis> works fine for me...
[04:26] <pterandon> does this second now for me.
[04:26] <groovis> odd.
[04:26] <ErikTheRed> i'll try it again now
[04:26] <groovis> router fart.
[04:26] <groovis> or burp.
[04:26] <pterandon> Is there an update-menus command?
[04:26] <ErikTheRed> looks like it's working
[04:27] <posthuman> Does anyone know of a program that can convert FLV files to AVI or MPG?
[04:28] <ErikTheRed> what program makes an FLV file?
[04:28] <groovis> ErikTheRed: can you actually change the icon ? or is it just me?
[04:28] <ErikTheRed> i can't change it either
[04:28] <groovis> ah ha.
[04:28] <groovis> then it isn't me.
[04:28] <Reddler> flash video
[04:28] <groovis> http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=FLV
[04:29] <groovis> filext.com answers all those questions...
[04:29] <DaSkreech> The: Hi
[04:29] <pterandon> I'm having a problem installing flash player.
[04:29] <TheDom> hello
[04:29] <pterandon> it says command not found.
[04:29] <ErikTheRed> posthuman: sorry no idea what program to use
[04:30] <TheDom> i wanted thedom but it gave me the there for a sec lol
[04:30] <posthuman> ah ok
[04:30] <posthuman> thanks though
[04:30] <pterandon> I found (but lost) on the web a suffix to put in front: /bin/sh??
[04:30] <ErikTheRed> what kind of file is the installer
[04:31] <pterandon> flash_player-installer from Adobe
[04:32] <pterandon> okay I solved it-- it require /bin/sh flashplayer-installer
[04:32] <ErikTheRed> you know you don't have to type /bin/sh
[04:33] <ErikTheRed> you can just go: sh flashplayer-installer
[04:33] <The> is it ppossible to start ur own chat channel?
[04:33] <ErikTheRed> or ./flashplayer-installer
[04:33] <DaSkreech> The: Yes
[04:33] <pterandon> k cool thx.     Adobe's incorrect instructs say    flashplayer-installer   , per se
[04:33] <otaku-san> The: type /query
[04:33] <otaku-san> then a space and the person you want to chat to
[04:34] <The> ...i mean on a much lager scale
[04:34] <The> something like this room
[04:34] <otaku-san> DaSkreech probably knows...I forget
[04:35] <The> lol
[04:35] <otaku-san> *shakes head sadly
[04:35] <DaSkreech> #noonesroom
[04:35] <DaSkreech> The: join that
[04:35] <The> how
[04:36] <DaSkreech> the: are you in konversation?
[04:36] <The> indeed
[04:36] <DaSkreech> Just click on it
[04:36] <The> woohoo done
[04:37] <Kiongku> hi. I just did the tut for kernel upgrade. But now kubuntu boots with a black screen just before login. Can someone help me?
[04:37] <DaSkreech> The: have fun
[04:37] <The> lol oh look myself have not chated with him in awhile
[04:38] <pterandon> Hello, what is recommended package manager:  is adept best, or will I run into trouble w/ synaptic?
[04:38] <DaSkreech> pterandon: Which ever floats your packages
[04:39] <pterandon> cool
[04:39] <Kiongku> hi. I just did the tut for kernel upgrade. But now kubuntu boots with a black screen just before login. Can someone help me?
[04:41] <otaku-san> Kiongku: no need to post twice...we all saw it's just we don't know how to fix your problem...like I have no clue what could be the prob.  Tho' try to post later. Or go to #linux
[04:42] <nihil> Hello people.
[04:42] <nihil> Hi from a friend
[04:42] <nihil> From Brazil
[04:43] <rocketman768> nihil: as in nihilism?
[04:44] <Kiongku> otaku-san sorry could have told me =) ty
[04:44] <DaSkreech> nihil: Hello
[04:44] <Kiongku> its not really a prob.. just annoying.
[04:45] <nihil> Yes
[04:45] <otaku-san> Kiongku: ok, sorry we couldn't help...try later and you might catch someone who knows his stuff or google your prob
[04:45] <nihil> Yes
[04:46] <rocketman768> you a nihilist?
[04:46] <Kiongku> ok. well how to upgrade the kde? by package manager?
[04:46] <nihil> I try
[04:46] <rocketman768> nihil: haha, what do you mean 'you try'?
[04:47] <nihil> I try to be a nihilist
[04:47] <nihil> haha
[04:47] <otaku-san> Kiongku: yes you can use apt-get probably to upgrade...DaSkreech back me up on this
[04:48] <DaSkreech> Ok
[04:48] <Kiongku> ty
[04:48] <rocketman768> nihil: you like the movie "I heart hucklebees"?
[04:48] <nihil> I never see it
[04:48] <rocketman768> *huckabees
[04:48] <nihil> sorry for my bad English
[04:48] <rocketman768> you should watch it
[04:49] <rocketman768> it's a comedy about nihilism and other things
[04:49] <Kiongku> did anyone try the kernel 2.6.17.8 on kubuntu?
[04:49] <nihil> cool
[04:50] <rocketman768> Kiongku: i got 2.6.17.5 going
[04:51] <Kiongku> otaku-san should i keep the original kubuntu kernel?.. i just upgraded
[04:51] <nihil> Sorry, but I have to go away
[04:51] <DaSkreech> nihil: Bye
[04:51] <nihil> By my friends
[04:51] <DaSkreech> otaku-san: What? I backed you up
[04:51] <nihil> A friend from Brazil
[04:52] <rocketman768> nihil: bye brazilian friend
[04:52] <nihil> Bye
[04:52] <nihil> Hasta la vista bay
[04:52] <nihil> And I'll be back
[04:52] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: true...true...
[04:53] <otaku-san> Kiongku: ok so you went to apt-get and upgraded?
[04:54] <Kiongku> otaku-san: for the kde yes but the kernel is a custom built i made myself. Not supported by kubuntu. so should i keep the original one as backup?
[04:55] <DaSkreech> Kiongku: can't kill you :)
[04:55] <otaku-san> Kiongku: YES!!!!! Oh most defiantly!!!! RULE number one on hacking.  Never not back up
[04:55] <otaku-san> Kiongku: Backup=Good
[04:55] <Kiongku> ah lol xD thx for the energetic response
[04:56] <Kiongku> btw.. i started kubuntu just yesterday..
[04:56] <Kiongku> XDDD
[04:56] <DaSkreech> Kiongku: Welcome
[04:57] <Kiongku> I'm glad.. in reallity i started 1 week ago.. but crazy eagle-usb problem solution found at lastr yesterday
[04:58] <otaku-san> Kiongku: me/ joins DaSkreech in welcoming you
[04:58] <Kiongku> k. one question... u know the screen just before login that spews out all sort of devices loading etc?
[04:58] <otaku-san> ok that did not work but welcome!
[04:58] <DaSkreech> heehee
[04:58] <DaSkreech> Broke the new toy?
[04:58] <Kiongku> what can cause it to stop showing up?
[04:59] <Kiongku> a bit. Onyl that part for now :p
[04:59] <Kiongku> *Only
[04:59] <Kiongku> i heard someone saying to remove splash in grub ._o
[05:01] <lmosher> how do I tell what sound device I'm suing? is it /dev/dsp?
[05:01] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: You wish man!
[05:02] <Kiongku> lol
[05:02] <Kiongku> 7 am..
[05:02] <Kiongku> been on the new kernel since 5 am XD
[05:03] <Kiongku> i found something on the forum about my problem but no solution ._.
[05:05] <otaku-san> Imosher: what kind of sound device?
[05:06] <DaSkreech> ##former-mspenguins
[05:07] <lmosher> otaku-san, my builtin sound card...
[05:08] <lmosher> Any ideas?
[05:09] <Kiongku> lmosher: why u want to fiddle with the sound device? no sound?
[05:09] <otaku-san> Imosher: hehe sound cards are my weakness....anything about them crashes me...ask here #linux
[05:09] <lmosher> Kiongku, I get sound in all apps except this one, which is asking me where my sound device is :)
[05:11] <Kiongku> lmosher: ah lol k. I not yet had this problem
[05:13] <reddwolf> hello
[05:14] <reddwolf> does any one now how to open a bin file
[05:14] <sergiusens> reddwolf: ./mybinfile.bin
[05:14] <reddwolf> thaks
[05:14] <reddwolf> *thanks
[05:16] <reddwolf> when i tryed that i got this message
[05:16] <reddwolf> An error occurred while loading http://./mybinfile.bin:
[05:16] <reddwolf> Unknown host .
[05:17] <sergiusens> reddwolf: what is your bin file? a vcd image or an executable?
[05:17] <DaSkreech> actinic: Where do we sign up?
[05:17] <reddwolf> its for the realplayer
[05:18] <mighty-d> hi, can anyone tell me how can i find out what version of ntfs-3g i'm using?
[05:18] <Hawkwind> mighty-d: dpkg -l ntfs-3g
[05:18] <mighty-d> thank you Hawkwind
[05:19] <sergiusens> right button on your file in the filemanager (konqueror) and select permissions -> and check 'is executable'
[05:20] <reddwolf> got it\
[05:20] <reddwolf> it says the same thing
[05:21] <sergiusens> reddwolf: did you click on it or write down what i told you to in the location bar?
[05:22] <actinic> DaSkreech, just follow the thread: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7868.0
[05:22] <reddwolf> but it the location bar
[05:22] <actinic> oh, and welcome aboard!  :)
[05:22] <DaSkreech> actinic: WHy don't we just combine the *buntus? ;-0
[05:22] <reddwolf> nothing happens when i click on it
[05:23] <sergiusens> open konsole
[05:23] <actinic> DaSkreech, because I believe ubuntu isn't worthy and kubuntu is better
[05:23] <actinic> :)
[05:23] <Jucato>  @_@
[05:23] <reddwolf> ok
[05:24] <Jucato> Kubuntu needs a lot of loving, but from the other end (the developers...)
[05:24] <rOOb> !vmware
[05:24] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[05:24] <actinic> i think we'll turn some heads
[05:24] <sergiusens> reddwolf: if the file is in your home directory then type in ./[followed the bin file name] 
[05:25] <sergiusens> reddwolf: eg. if the file is named realplay.bin type in ./realplay.bin
[05:25] <actinic> Jucato, are u a mod over at the forums?
[05:25] <Jucato> actinic: nope. :-D
[05:26] <actinic> ah man
[05:26] <Jucato> why?
[05:26] <actinic> i want to get the folding thread stickied
[05:26] <sergiusens> reddwolf: that's it for me, it's 00.26 and i had a busy day today
[05:26] <actinic> or in it's own forum
[05:26] <Jucato> oh...
[05:26] <charles1952> Newbie to linux here....I was in the middle of doing a system update using adept...it downloaded all the packages (about 124 of 'em)...but encountered an error during installation. Now when I try to run adept it says there is another instance of adept or apt-get running, and it won't let me run the program. I killed the auto-updater process running in the task-bar...what else do I need to do? Help please???!!!
[05:27] <reddwolf> ok
[05:27] <Jucato> too bad PMs are disabled in the forums right now
[05:27] <reddwolf> it said no such file excist
[05:27] <actinic> didn't know that
[05:27] <actinic> shucks
[05:27] <Jucato> non of the mods are online, anyway
[05:27] <DaSkreech> charles1952: from the command line run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:28] <DaSkreech> a FOLDING forum?
[05:28] <actinic> ever?
[05:28] <charles1952> okay...Ill try it.
[05:28] <Jucato> no, just right now
[05:28] <actinic> DaSkreech, yes.  You gotta see some other team's forums.
[05:28] <Jucato> actinic: you can check who's online in the side panels
[05:29] <Jucato> err... I don't get this Folding @ Home thing....
[05:29] <actinic> global supercomputing effort for medical research
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Jucato: It;s like Orogami but @ home!!!
[05:29] <actinic> you join teams and get points
[05:29] <actinic> or seti, without the aliens :)
[05:29] <charles1952> Thanks...it seemed to work just fine. What did I do?
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Which You turn in For free Kool Aid :)
[05:30] <DaSkreech> charles1952: continued the installation
[05:30] <actinic> or free beer!
[05:30] <Jucato> lol
[05:30] <DaSkreech> charles1952: You should be good now :0
[05:30] <JRH3K5> !quotas
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quotas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <JRH3K5> I hate you, ubotu
[05:30] <charles1952> Here's a cold one for the help...thanks a bunch!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:30] <JRH3K5> You're useless.
[05:30] <actinic> check out the top teams: http://fahstats.com/
[05:31] <JRH3K5> Anyone here know where I can read about disk quotas?
[05:31] <DaSkreech> charles1952: Thank You Please come again
[05:31] <Hawkwind> JRH3K5: Google.com/linux and tldp.org
[05:32] <actinic> Hawkwind, what's the link to your site?  I forgot.
[05:32] <DaSkreech> actinic: So you don't really care if we get the most beer just as long as we can get more ineberaited than Ubnutu :)
[05:33] <actinic> DaSkreech, that's right & also because the heat generated from an app running 100% cpu load creates a warm environment, thus the great need for another cold one!
[05:33] <Hawkwind> actinic: To the forums ?  http://LinuxForDummies.org/  To the deb repo, http://SeerOfSouls.com/
[05:34] <actinic> :)
[05:34] <actinic> ok thanks, that's it
[05:35] <actinic> we've got potential for a real kick ass team, or at least an inebriated one
[05:35] <Jucato> I'll go for the inebriated one :-D
[05:35] <actinic> well i'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
[05:37] <soulrider> hey Hawkwind i gto something to ask you :P
[05:37] <soulrider> this morning i upgraded HAL and since then in media:/ i can see my NTFS drives BUT i cant open or mount my pen drive unless i do it via CLI
[05:37] <DaSkreech> actinic: Wouldn't it make more sense just to havea  clustering forums?
[05:38] <soulrider> do you have any ideas of what can be happening?
[05:38] <jontec> Gah. The one thing that kills open source is merely the documentation and support.
[05:38] <jontec> The mySQL documentation is much too broad and... just isn't easy to follow.
[05:38] <Jucato> soulrider: a bug in KDE 3.5.4 and Kubuntu's HAL...
[05:38] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Revert back to an older version of HAL.  I know other distros that have the same problems and there doesn't seem to be any work around other than reverting
[05:39] <soulrider> ok, how do i revert? :/
[05:39] <actinic> DaSkreech, there was a faq about clusters both pro & con.  Haven't researched it
[05:39] <soulrider> it fixed one thing and broke another thing! :D
[05:39] <Jucato> Hawkwind: I'm listening, too :-D
[05:39] <actinic> but it sounds interesting!
[05:39] <Hawkwind> soulrider: You using KDE 3.5.4 ?
[05:39] <soulrider> yes
[05:39] <Jucato> me too, me too! :-D
[05:39] <soulrider> lol Jucato
[05:40] <Jucato> actually, the problem doesn't exist if you don't have HAL installed/updated
[05:40] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Jucato:  This how-to will revert you from KDE 3.5.4 to 3.5.3 which I did myself due to issues with konqueror outside of KDE since I do *not* use KDE:   http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=609.0
[05:40] <Jucato> but I don't know what I'm missing without HAL
[05:40] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Jucato:  That is a how-to I wrote with some help of a couple of others here so I posted it on my forums
[05:40] <soulrider> i dont even know what hal is for :P
[05:41] <soulrider> grat Hawkwind, ill register too :)
[05:41] <actinic> hardware abstraction layer, whatever that means
[05:41] <Hawkwind> HAL handles the automounting of devices and such
[05:41] <DaSkreech> I'm sorry soulrider I can't allot you to know that
[05:41] <DaSkreech> allow
[05:41] <Jucato> Hawkwind: err.. so you mean downgrade KDE 3.5.4? I thought you meant downgrading HAL to an earlier version
[05:41] <Hawkwind> It handles mounting, unmounting and various other things dealing with media sources
[05:42] <soulrider> ah
[05:42] <soulrider> lol DaSkreech
[05:42] <Hawkwind> Jucato: You probably could do that, but if it's a bug in KDE 3.5.4 then reverting HAL probably won't work
[05:42] <soulrider> when i saw there was an upgradable package adn that is was hal i thought of 2001 a space odysey :P
[05:43] <Jucato> Hawkwind: when I installed "this" Kubuntu I'm using right now, it didn't have HAL installed (until a few hours ago). KDE 3.5.4 was working properly, and I could still mount/unmount drives.
[05:43] <Jucato> then when I realized I didn't have HAL installed, I installed it, and WHAM, bugged again
[05:43] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Then try removing HAL.  But chances are you had HAL installed and just didn't know it
[05:43] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Ahhh, so remove it and see what happens
[05:43] <Jucato> Hawkwind: no. i really didn't have HAL installed
[05:45] <Jucato> 2006-08-14 22:31:52 install hal <none> 0.5.7-1ubuntu18.1
[05:47] <Jucato> I'll try removing HAL, but I'm quite too lazy right now to have to log out/restart for it to take effect :-D
[05:47] <vinicius_> teste
[05:48] <actinic> i'm hoping these 3.5.4 issues are resolved quickly
[05:48] <actinic> almost seems it wasn't bug tested enough
[05:48] <actinic> it's also slower
[05:49] <Jucato> well, you can bet the devs are working on it
[05:49] <Jucato> hm... I find it a bit faster, if just a bit
[05:49] <soulrider> Hawkwind: i coultn downgrade :S
[05:49] <soulrider> i followed the steps but it didnt install packages
[05:50] <actinic> is it common for KDE to come out with small upgrades, like 3.5.4.1, 3.5.4.2, etc?
[05:50] <Hawkwind> soulrider: You need to make sure you are using the right mirrors and also make sure your sources.list doesn't have any source that contains 3.5.4 currently
[05:50] <Hawkwind> actinic: No
[05:51] <Jucato> the 3.5.4 itself is the small upgrade...
[05:51] <soulrider> i will re check
[05:51] <actinic> what was the wait time from 3.5.3 to 3.5.4?
[05:51] <actinic> or are they going directly to 4?
[05:52] <Jucato> actinic: I think the next release will be KDE 4
[05:52] <Hawkwind> Jucato: No
[05:52] <Hawkwind> The next release will be 3.5.5
[05:52] <actinic> sounds like we'lll be stuck with 3.5.4 for awhile
[05:52] <Jucato> there will be a 3.5.5?
[05:52] <Jucato> whoa
[05:52] <actinic> oh
[05:52] <Hawkwind> And probably a 3.5.6 and a 3.5.7
[05:53] <actinic> hey i've got a 357 in my closet!
[05:53] <soulrider> aparently i got 82 upgrades waiting :/
[05:53] <soulrider> guns kill people :P
[05:54] <soulrider> or is it the morons using htem? :/
[05:54] <Jucato> oh yeah I forgot, they're doing extended releases because KDE 4 aint that close yet...
[05:55] <actinic> my linux links site is coming along.  check it out:  http://www.whatsinyourbox.org/index.php/topic,1714.0.html
[05:55] <soulrider> Hawkwind: i think its downgrading :)
[06:04] <actinic> ok, don't forget:  join the kubuntu folding team & get inebriated :)
[06:04] <actinic> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7868.0
[06:04] <actinic> actinic out
[06:05] <cristian> boa noite
[06:07] <larson9999> yeah! my ait driver is working!  but i don't see yet why ati gets a bad rap.  is it only recently the drivers worked right?  or something else?
[06:13] <Hawkwind> larson9999: ATI has been the worse of the two for a couple of years now.  Their drivers are just very difficult to install and get working.
[06:13] <Hawkwind> larson9999: That might change now that they aren't going to be ATI anymore.  AMD has decided since the buyout to drop the ATI name all together
[06:19] <soulrider> Hawkwind: i started the downgrade
[06:20] <soulrider> it downloaded everything
[06:20] <soulrider> but adept said it had a problem and could break packages
[06:20] <soulrider> so it stopped
[06:20] <soulrider> hang on
[06:20] <soulrider> im reading, i think i gotta use sudo apt-get install -f
[06:20] <Hawkwind> Ummmm, hence why the how-to was written for doing it from the CLI
[06:20] <Hawkwind> I do *not* believe in GUI package managers.  They just never seem to work as well as doing things from the command line IMO
[06:22] <soulrider> i gotta restart x server now right?
[06:22] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Did you finish the downgrade with the -f option ?
[06:23] <soulrider> i did
[06:23] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Then restarting X is the best thing to do
[06:23] <soulrider> kk, brb
[06:23] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i know they used to be way worse 199* - 2000 time frame so i never tried them.  but my mobo crapped out and i found a pretty decent machine for pretty cheap so it made more since to buy a new machine than buy a mobo, ram, and cpu.
[06:24] <larson9999> Hawkwind: but this runs fine and was pretty easy to install.
[06:24] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Consider yourself lucky then :P
[06:24] <larson9999> Hawkwind: aha, i just have the one card that goes well?
[06:25] <Hawkwind> I won't support ATI since they won't make their drivers as easy to install as Nvidia.  I'm an Nvidia guy for a very long time to come
[06:25] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Everything ok ?
[06:25] <soulrider> le em check :P
[06:25] <soulrider> 3.5.3 ;)
[06:25] <soulrider> =d
[06:25] <soulrider> lets dot he pen drive test :P
[06:26] <larson9999> Hawkwind: well, i wouldn't have bought ati but it happened to be embedded.  it was so cheap that i just figured i'd use one of my nvidia cards with it.  but it installed ok so there you go.
[06:27] <soulrider> YES!
[06:27] <soulrider> WORKS!!! I LOVE YOU Hawkwind ;P
[06:27] <Hawkwind> soulrider: See how easy that was :)
[06:27] <Hawkwind> Hah
[06:28] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Glad I could help.  That how-to is very easy and works great IMO
[06:28] <soulrider> yes, it does!
[06:29] <soulrider> i feel like listening music form the 90's :P
[06:29] <soulrider> dunno why
[06:29] <Hawkwind> I'm listening to 80's stuff, of course, on my stream
[06:30] <soulrider> i like 80s music
[06:30] <soulrider> everyones gonna hate me for thsi, but i love Depeche Mode: P
[06:31] <Hawkwind> soulrider: I do too.  Awesome group
[06:31] <larson9999> i'm in hog heaven.  someone turned me on to this mainframe emulator and it rocks.  the thing i can't figure out is why i didn't see it before.  i google for emulators about every 2 months or so.
[06:31] <soulrider> Hawkwind: ever heard of fischerspooner ?
[06:31] <soulrider> if you like DM youll probably like them
[06:32] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Yep.  I have some of their stuff too
[06:32] <soulrider> :O
[06:32] <soulrider> im the biggest FS fan lol
[06:36] <erikdravn> Hello all.. a quick question.. has anyone else had trouble with the epositories being flakey lately (i.e. the last few days.. maybe a week or two)
[06:37] <Hawkwind> erikdravn: Which ones specifically ?
[06:37] <erikdravn> Wll, a times, I've found all odf them tobe down or not reachable
[06:37] <erikdravn> at
[06:37] <erikdravn> sorry, my keyboard is being flakey as well lol
[06:37] <Hawkwind> Sounds like a DNS issue on your end then
[06:38] <erikdravn> I thought so too..but I have tried it at 4 different location/networks
[06:39] <Hawkwind> I now archive.ubuntu.com was/is down so you have to use a mirror of it.  I switched to se.archive.ubuntu.com and the issues went away.  I have a *ton* of sources too and they all work
[06:39] <erikdravn> *nods*  Kool
[06:41] <erikdravn> Well, right now I'm updating my laptop and it couldn't connect to.. security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main kdelibs-bin 4:3.5.2
[06:41] <Hawkwind> erikdravn: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.0   That's my sources list there if you want to take a look at it
[06:41] <erikdravn> awesome.. thanks
[06:41] <Hawkwind> No problem
[06:42] <Hawkwind> Failed to fetch http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/dapper-seveas/all/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[06:42] <Hawkwind> Heh, that's the only one that failed for me just now
[06:42] <erikdravn> :)
[06:43] <erikdravn> wow, you have a tonof repositries listed lol
[06:44] <Hawkwind> Hah yeah
[06:45] <erikdravn> I basically just have the ones listed at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[06:46] <erikdravn> ND I only added those because the oes I had would no connect at all.
[06:46] <erikdravn> and
[06:46] <larson9999> Hawkwind: speaking of package managers i've been running fc5 on my son's machine last week.  yum kinda sucks
[06:47] <erikdravn> I'm REALLY getting anoyed at this keyboard issue.. my key are sticking (ok, no jokes about sticky keys either lol)
[06:48] <erikdravn> if Iturn on key repeate.. i get all kina of lettersscrolling acros the screen so I switched it off.. but now it skipps keystrokes.. I can't win lol
[06:49] <erikdravn> I'm sure thats just a driver issue though
[06:49] <rOOb> !vmware
[06:49] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[06:50] <erikdravn> Ok, what exactly does vmware do?
[06:50] <erikdravn> Sorry for sounding so much ike a newb.. I'm not as new as I seem lol
[06:52] <erikdravn> ok, I seem to have oversayed my welcome ;) have a good one people
[06:54] <rOOb> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?
[06:55] <Hawkwind> /usr/src
[06:55] <rOOb> thansk Hawkwind
[07:04] <shrewd> hey guys, is there a program for linux which can scan websites for possible vulnerabilities or security flaws? (testing own website here not someone elses :)
[07:04] <soulrider> lol
[07:04] <soulrider> not that i know of, sorry
[07:04] <shrewd> damn :)
[07:05] <shrewd> i figured linux *should* have one, being integral to webserving & hacking :)
[07:05] <shrewd> i'm aware of many network scanners which can scan a network for vulnerabilities, but thats not really what i need ...
[07:10] <rOOb> hmm well i cant get vmware to install any one have any ideas...it keeps saying it cant find linux/version.h ive tried almost eveery dir in /usr/src
[07:10] <Jucato> rOOb:  have you tried installing the linux-headers package?
[07:11] <Jucato> !info linux-headers
[07:11] <ubotu> Package linux-headers does not exist in dapper
[07:11] <Jucato> hmm...
[07:11] <Jucato> I forgot the exact name of the package
[07:11] <rOOb> yea i have them
[07:12] <Jucato> hmm...
[07:12] <rOOb> yea
[07:13] <Dimon> hey does anybody knows, i have the following problem:
[07:13] <Dimon> I have a local ubuntu repository here
[07:14] <Dimon> but if i want to upgrade to kde 3.5.4 amarok 1.4.1 etc, what repositories should be mirrored?
[07:14] <Dimon> i want to ask admins about creating them..
[07:15] <Jucato> I think the website lists the repositories for KDE 3.5.4, etc
[07:15] <Jucato> For KDE 3.5.4: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[07:16] <Jucato> For Amarok 1.4.1: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[07:17] <Jucato> Take note, though, that a special repository is created for every new release. There's a "kde-latest" repository, but I'm not sure how reliable it is. Some said that it also contains RC (release candidates) sometimes, not always the stable/final release
[07:17] <Dimon> I mean: if there is a one repository which holds them all, maybe http://kubuntu.org/packages/ dapper main
[07:17] <Dimon> kde-latest is ubuntu repo or kde repo?
[07:18] <Jucato> kubuntu repo
[07:18] <Jucato> I'm not really  sure how reliable it is, though
[07:18] <Dimon> ok thanks i will ask them to create a mirror for kde-latest then :) i need it for my home pc so it's ok even to install rcs:)
[07:19] <Jucato> ok, just be careful. Like I said, some told me that sometimes, kde-latest also contains RC/beta releases, not always the stable ones. I can't confirm it though
[07:43] <Tonren> Does anyone know how to install kubuntu-desktop without clobbering gnome-desktop?
[07:44] <farous> clobbering ?
[07:45] <unix_infidel> does anyone get that distortion when they up the pcm device to max?
[07:45] <unix_infidel> where as if they max the master device, they dont get that distortion.
[07:45] <unix_infidel> (fyi: i'm running some senns here, its def not them)
[07:45] <Grundee> I am trying to compile and play a game written in python (Frets on Fire), but I am not able to compile one of the dependencies for some reason, I copied the library that it required from the binary distro of the game. I placed it in the same directory as the rest of the source and attempted to run the game. For some reason it gives the EXACT path to the library, followed by "cannot open shared object file: No fire or directory." Th
[07:45] <Grundee> e file is RIGHT THERE, and it appears that it located it. I am running a 64 bit version of kubuntu, would it give this error if the library was compiled for 32 bit?
[07:45] <farous> unix_infidel: me
[07:46] <unix_infidel> farous: know how i can fix that?
[07:46] <farous> do not know i just stopped putting it to max
[07:46] <farous> i thought it was my sound card
[07:46] <crimsun> Grundee: yes.
[07:47] <Tonren> farous: Every time I install kubuntu-desktop, the next time I log into GNOME, everything is fuxed
[07:47] <Grundee> Ok, thanks.
[07:48] <farous> Tonren: can you give more details what you mean by that i have them both installed no prob here
[07:48] <geneo93> crimsun:  did you get a chance to see if btaudio was in new kernel
[07:48] <farous> just cluttered menus
[07:48] <glick> hey
[07:48] <Tonren> farous: When I log back into GNOME, all of my bootup programs (gnome-panel, glipper, gnome-clock-manager, etc.) give errors, and I get a pretty much blank screen
[07:49] <Tonren> farous: It may work better now that there have been a few update,s but I'm too terrified to try because I don't want to have to reinstall again
[07:49] <glick> hey does kubuntu have any network applications runnign by default?
[07:49] <geneo93> kdelibs/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.2-0ubuntu18.1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[07:49] <geneo93> why is this borked
[07:49] <glick> network services?
[07:49] <farous> Tonren: i never had this prob here. by the way my preferred wm are fluxbox and ion
[07:50] <crimsun> geneo93: looks like it to me:  filename:       /lib/modules/2.6.17-6-686/kernel/sound/oss/btaudio.ko
[07:50] <geneo93> so it might be something else then
[07:50] <Tonren> farous: fluxbox was too hardcore for me.  I like GNOME because it's pretty, and has a lot of neat plugins.  I've never heard of Ion.  What kind of changes do you make to fluxbox for it to fit your needs?  What's Ion like?
[07:50] <geneo93> crimsun:  what about alsa driver
[07:51] <farous> Tonren: ion is hardcore. fluxbox is pretty simple copuled with gkrellm for system status was all i needed
[07:51] <Tonren> farous: Hmm.  What's gkrellm?
[07:51] <Tonren> farous: I'll try them both out again.  I was a FAN of fluxbox, it's just... well, it was FUGLY for one thing
[07:51] <unix_infidel> lol.
[07:52] <crimsun> geneo93: this one?  /lib/modules/2.6.17-6-686/kernel/sound/pci/snd-bt87x.ko
[07:52] <unix_infidel> if you think aeroglass is decent looking...ya i think you could call fluxbox fugly.
[07:52] <unix_infidel> but you'd be wrong.
[07:52] <unix_infidel> *shrug* :P
[07:52] <glick> does anyone know what network services kubuntu starts by default
[07:52] <geneo93> wonder why it dont work
[07:52] <glick> ?
[07:52] <farous> Tonren: found it more usable here just get some themes from the net and check grellm on the net
[07:54] <glick> ?
[07:55] <geneo93> crimsun:  this is what i get from dmesg bt878: probe of 0000:03:0a.1 failed with error -22
[08:00] <crimsun> geneo93: before or after snd-bt87x is loaded?
[08:00] <glick> yay futurama
[08:00] <geneo93> i dont think it ever finds it
[08:00] <phx198> Here's a stupid question:  Is there any way to make the Windows Start Key (on they keyboard) open the K Menu?
[08:01] <Tonren> phx198: I'm sure... there HAS to be a way
[08:01] <Tonren> phx198: Let's see... normally, Alt + F1 does it, right?
[08:02] <phx198> Tonren:  Apparently so... (didn't know that...I just keep finding myself pressing that winkey to open the menu and getting frustrated when nothing happens).
[08:02] <Tonren> phx198: Well, do you think you can handle switching to Alt + F1, or is the winkey too useful?  I think that should totally be possible
[08:03] <geneo93> crimsun:  this is whole section http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20639
[08:03] <Tonren> phx198: The problem is that you'd want the Key UP event to open it, and not Key Down, and I'm not sure how you can specify that, even with something like Xbindkeys
[08:03] <phx198> Tonren:  It's not really any sort of problem, just something that would really make sense.
[08:03] <Tonren> phx198: Of course.  That's what linux is for.
[08:04] <Jucato> I remember seeing a sort of HOWTO in the ubuntuforums for that. I just can't seem to locate it now
[08:04] <Jucato> you could also try to just map the K Menu to Win+Space
[08:05] <Jucato> System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts options > Popup Launch Menu
[08:06] <Lynoure> Has anyone here has luck with kpilot? Here it has recently started going unresponsive when any of the settings is accessed and the small kpilot applet icon shows a "no" sysbol of a circle with a slash through it. What could I do?
[08:08] <unix_infidel> anyone used the tor pkg for dapper with breezy with any success?
[08:11] <Lynoure> Often it's easier to build your own than try to use wrong version...
[08:11] <crimsun> upstream also provides debs.
[08:14] <geneo93> kdelibs/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.2-0ubuntu18.1_i386.deb can someone fix this
[08:16] <crimsun> seems fine to me.
[08:16] <geneo93> what the deb or dmesg
[08:17] <geneo93> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdelibs/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.2-0ubuntu18.1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[08:20] <jontec_> does anyone know how to install the mySQL extensions for php5?
[08:20] <jontec_> other than recompiling it?
[08:27] <Philip5> jontec_: use apt-get
[08:27] <geneo93> !apci
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <Jucato> !info apci
[08:28] <ubotu> Package apci does not exist in dapper
[08:28] <geneo93> !apic
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <Philip5> jontec_: suso apt-get install php5-mysql or php5-mysqli
[08:29] <jontec_> thanks
[08:29] <Philip5> depending on if you want the improved module or not
[08:30] <obf213> hey i plug usb speakers in my laptop how do iget them to work
[08:30] <obf213> !sound
[08:30] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:30] <obf213> !speakers
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about speakers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <jontec_> what are the start/stop commands for apache? does anyone know?
[08:31] <jontec_> in Konsole I mean
[08:32] <Philip5> jontec_: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[08:33] <Philip5> or sudo apache2ctl start
[08:33] <jontec_> thanks again. I forgot the 2 at the end of the command. T_T
[08:36] <noiesmo> why does openoffice have to be a dependancy of kubuntu-desktop adds like 80mb to download is there a way to get around itwent to novell suse 10 lauch apparently a world first -- they were showing of there new server 10 and desktop 10 release and of course xgl
[08:36] <noiesmo> why does openoffice have to be a dependancy of kubuntu-desktop adds like 80mb to download is there a way around it
[08:37] <Jucato> ask the devs... if it's not OpenOffice, maybe they would have put KOffice instead
[08:37] <geneo93> yes just use kde
[08:37] <farous> noiesmo: you can just remove it
[08:37] <unix_infidel> anyone here used the tor deb for breezy?
[08:37] <unix_infidel> and had any problems?
[08:37] <Philip5> noiesmo: you can use xgl with kubuntu too...
[08:38] <farous> kubuntu-desktop is a meta package
[08:38] <Jucato> kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage (quite annoying actually) that makes installing/uninstalling the default Kubuntu stuff easier...
[08:38] <noiesmo> I have removed it farous i'm running ubuntu and want to add kubuntu as well I will just use kde
[08:38] <geneo93> apt-get insrtall kde
[08:38] <thompa> is evolution supposed to work in kde?
[08:38] <geneo93> yes it will
[08:39] <Jucato> noiesmo: if you have ubuntu already, wouldn't you also have openoffice as well?
[08:39] <noiesmo> Philip5, thanks dude I know I just had to reinstall my system after edgy upgrade and i had a ubuntu disc here already check the link for tinyurl here
[08:39] <noiesmo> !xgl
[08:39] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:39] <farous> noiesmo: many are fans of openoffice i am one. it is the best office suite i used so far on linux and is necessity for any desktop
[08:39] <thompa> i guess im being sarcastic, its locking up and i have to terminate, it only works again after reboot
[08:40] <noiesmo> farous, yes yes it was just a q have been using linux openoffice for years
[08:40] <Jucato> I'm a fan of any office suite that uses ODF. Although I wish they're more compatible with each other...
[08:40] <thompa> evolution is totally unstable for me it seems, this is like the 3rd time ive tried it
[08:41] <farous> hm best i ment most mature
[08:41] <thompa> i guess i go back to kontact
[08:41] <thompa> evo is crashing whenever i try to send a reply
[08:42] <Jucato> thompa: maybe it's just Evolution on KDE. maybe Evolution on GNOME works better?
[08:42] <thompa> on my earlier version of ubuntu it crashed horribly and i lost all my email
[08:43] <Jucato> oh
[08:43] <thompa> i dont know why i keep trying it
[08:43] <farous> thompa: evol is my main mail server no probls what so ever here
[08:43] <farous> strange eh
[08:43] <thompa> great
[08:43] <thompa> ive tried it on 2 laptops and 2 computers nothing but trouble
[08:44] <thompa> now it wont even open so i can read email
[08:44] <geneo93> well unistall and reinstall
[08:44] <thompa> me?
[08:44] <farous> thompa: did you try typing evolution in a terminal. will give you a hint of the error
[08:44] <thompa> ok
[08:44] <geneo93> yes mine works just fine
[08:45] <thompa> CalDAV Eplugin starting up...
[08:45] <thompa> thats all
[08:45] <thompa> nothing else happens
[08:45] <Jucato> I've used Evolution lightly for about a month. seems to be working fine, although I used it in GNOME
[08:45] <geneo93> i use it in kde
[08:45] <thompa> so what is CalDAV, calendar i guess
[08:45] <Jucato> thompa: if/when it crashes, it would output the error messages in the terminal
[08:46] <thompa> CalDAV Eplugin starting up... is all i get
[08:46] <Jucato> and it won't open?
[08:46] <thompa> its stuck there
[08:46] <thompa> wont open
[08:46] <Jucato> hmm...
[08:46] <thompa> maybe its my pda
[08:46] <thompa> i did try to syn my pda once
[08:47] <thompa> sync
[08:47] <farous> thompa: your best bet is to ask on  #evolution on irc.gimp.org
[08:47] <thompa> but that was some days ago
[08:47] <thompa> i know
[08:47] <thompa> well kontact has never given me trouble so might as well just go back there
[08:47] <geneo93> ok then rename file in home dir and try it
[08:47] <thompa> its weird though
[08:48] <geneo93> .evolution
[08:48] <thompa> ok
[08:48] <rikioh> !pastebin
[08:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:49] <thompa> geneo93: like what file should i rename?
[08:49] <geneo93> .evolution
[08:49] <thompa> and then start it with new name?
[08:49] <geneo93> you need to view hidden
[08:50] <thompa> i can see it in command
[08:50] <farous> thompa: from my exp with evol. it is too integrated with gnome that it is best to reconfigure it using gconf-editor
[08:50] <geneo93> no use blank as if it was first time
[08:50] <thompa> ok ill try that
[08:51] <thompa> i can always reboot,
[08:51] <geneo93> sudo killall evolution
[08:51] <thompa> ok
[08:52] <wolfmanz> how do i updatye kde to the latest version?
[08:52] <thompa> after kill all its still stuck on CalDAV Eplugin starting up ...
[08:53] <thompa> i wonder if its kpilot or something
[08:53] <thompa> im trying to hack a tungsten t5
[08:53] <TheHighChild> hey guys
[08:53] <Lynoure> thompa: I've had endless trouble with kpilot, and possibly visor module :/
[08:54] <thompa> Lynoure: are you syncing with anything then?
[08:54] <Lynoure> thompa: jsut earlier asked if anyone has gotten them to work but no one said so
[08:54] <TheHighChild> Question: Any suggested mail servers for ubuntu? I'd like a webmail interface(ajax desired). It will only be supporting 1 user though
[08:54] <Lynoure> thompa: at the moment it does not seem to be happening. Previously, about once per boot, then I'd get a nasty error about visor module.
[08:55] <thompa> i had kpilot working up to 90%,
[08:55] <thompa> hmmm
[08:55] <geneo93> well your not the only one having trouble
[08:55] <geneo93> .com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2006-August/msg00047.html
[08:56] <thompa> kpilot is synching, but it gets stuck at around 90%, so i just pull the plug
[08:56] <thompa> all the data is their i think
[08:57] <geneo93> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2006-August/msg00054.html   another hint
[08:57] <thompa> ill try that , thanks
[08:58] <Lynoure> thompa: are you synching over the normal usb or some other means? And does it usually work fine for you?
[08:58] <geneo93> you renamed the file before to old or something right
[08:59] <thompa> Lynoure: usb, im going to try it just now, hang on
[09:00] <thompa> its syncing
[09:00] <thompa> now its backing up data
[09:01] <thompa> so far so good
[09:02] <thompa> genoa93: i have a couple of .cmeta files , not sure what to do
[09:03] <thompa> regarding evo that is
[09:03] <Lynoure> thompa: and you use dapper with the latest kubuntu kernel? If so, thank you for providing hope (if not, thank you anyway)
[09:03] <geneo93> just move them to temp like it says
[09:03] <thompa> Lynoure: well its at 95%
[09:04] <Lynoure> thompa: hmm...
[09:04] <thompa> Lynoure: just install all the kpilot stuff and choose kde for sync i guess
[09:04] <thompa> Lynoure: its backing up wifisetup, and some astronamy stuff
[09:05] <thompa> genoa93: thanks will do
[09:05] <Lynoure> thompa: That's what I have been trying to do. But often get stuck at around 30% or when the synch does not start at all. This morning I was about to give up and start backing up to a SD
[09:05] <thompa> Lynoure: kpilot crash signal 11
[09:06] <Lynoure> thompa: anything related in dmesg?
[09:06] <thompa> Lynoure: crashed whiel backing up PmNet Library
[09:06] <thompa> all my info is there, it crashes but works
[09:07] <thompa> Lynoure: i think i should maybe not backup apps
[09:07] <thompa> going to try again
[09:07] <Lynoure> thompa: so there was nothing in dmesg about error in visor module?
[09:08] <_rince_> mrgn
[09:08] <geneo93> not enough space
[09:08] <thompa> Lynoure: im looking at dmesg
[09:10] <thompa> im doing fast sync now, i did not see any errors
[09:10] <Lynoure> thompa: ok, thank you.
[09:10] <thompa> Unable to read system information from Pilot error
[09:11] <thompa> stuck at 30%
[09:13] <thompa> geneo93: do you think not enough space for data
[09:14] <geneo93> could be on pilot
[09:15] <thompa> well fast sync does not seem to work but hot sync does somewhat
[09:16] <thompa> geneo93: sorry, i mean all my data is on pilot
[09:16] <thompa> theres nothing in kontact as a source
[09:17] <TheHighChild> any mail server gurus?
[09:17] <geneo93> ok i need to reboot for newer kernel
[09:22] <danl> how do you save your session in kde?
[09:22] <geneo93> should be in kcontrol
[09:23] <danl> thanks
[09:24] <geneo93> kde componets
[09:26] <danl> anyway to force save a session, because everytime i reboot, kbfx and universal sidebar go away
[09:36] <m0ns00n> Hey! Anyone know how to turn off the F1 keyboard shortcut for KdeHelpcenter
[09:36] <m0ns00n> It's really annoying when I change desktop with ctrl+f1 and accidentially load the helpcenter...
[09:36] <m0ns00n> Tried to eradicate the shortcut but I'm left wondering if it's built in
[09:37] <m0ns00n> I see the helpcenter almost 20 times each day now! =) And I don't need it, I could just as well uninstall the whole thing
[09:37] <geneo93> well alt ctrl f1 works fine for me
[09:37] <m0ns00n> Sure
[09:37] <m0ns00n> But when I sometimes miss ctrl
[09:37] <m0ns00n> :-)
[09:37] <m0ns00n> quickly change from ctrl f1 f2 f3 etc
[09:37] <geneo93> that your fault not kdes
[09:38] <m0ns00n> geneo93: explain
[09:38] <m0ns00n> I know you want to
[09:38] <m0ns00n> You're telling me I can't switch off the hotkey for kde helpcenter?
[09:39] <shrewdy> look it up in helpcenter? :P
[09:39] <m0ns00n> I did
[09:39] <shrewdy> sorry i know thats not helpful i couldn't resist
[09:39] <m0ns00n> I know
[09:39] <m0ns00n> We're all used to it, and I guess we all wanna be on the dark side from time to time ;-)
[09:39] <shrewdy> i don't know how to turn it off, tbh i didn't even realise it was a link key for HC until you said so
[09:40] <shrewdy> and i use ctrl f1 all the time
[09:40] <m0ns00n> Weird that I'm the only one having this problem
[09:40] <m0ns00n> Many times when I quickly go to desktop 1, I just flip on ctrl-f1, and miss the ctrl :-)
[09:40] <m0ns00n> Then ... LOADING KDE HELP CENTER ARGHH! hehe
[09:40] <m0ns00n> Like I get punished for a typo
[09:40] <m0ns00n> =)
[09:40] <mulder_> hello there
[09:41] <shrewdy> it takes a split second to load ... is it really that anoying?
[09:41] <m0ns00n> imagine somebody slapping your wrist each time you wrote gwkki instead of hello
[09:41] <m0ns00n> =)
[09:41] <geneo93> you need hot keys package then
[09:41] <m0ns00n> shrewdy: yes, it takes 4+ seconds on a 700mhz
[09:41] <mulder_> I am new to Linux and have been enjoying it so far, but I have some problems solving a few things. Is this the right place to get help?
[09:41] <Jucato> System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts options > Application Shortcuts tab > Help
[09:42] <Jucato> m0ns00n: did you get that?
[09:42] <m0ns00n> Jucato: Yes.
[09:42] <m0ns00n> Jucato: Guess what f1 does
[09:42] <m0ns00n> heheheh
[09:42] <Ademan>  if i install the xserver-xorg-air-core package and i have an nvidia card, am i in trouble?
[09:43] <m0ns00n> Jucato: It seems it doesn't matter if it's switched off or not, f1 still prevails :-)
[09:43] <mulder_> I am trying to have Kubuntu recognizes my duo core cpu...don't know how to do it
[09:43] <geneo93> 686 kernel
[09:44] <mulder_> where do I start Geneo?
[09:44] <mulder_> really newbie
[09:45] <Jucato> m0ns00n: (Did you click on Apply?) also check your K Menu entry for KHelpCenter and make sure it doesn't have a shortcut for it, and don't forget to save it
[09:45] <geneo93> maybe you shoulld have dvd and use text to install
[09:46] <mulder_> I have the disk yes, but how can I get into text mode?
[09:46] <ninHer> hi all
[09:46] <m0ns00n> Jucato: I did
[09:47] <m0ns00n> Jucato: And I checked the kmenu
[09:47] <geneo93> mulder_:  have you installed it yet
[09:47] <mulder_> Yes Kubuntu is installed, dual boot with xp
[09:47] <m0ns00n> "Current shortcut key" "none"
[09:47] <Jucato> okay... running out of ideas...
[09:47] <geneo93> mulder_:  uname -a and paste the results
[09:48] <mulder_> in the terminal?
[09:48] <m0ns00n> Jucato: That's why I came here :-) Can you turn it off? Verify for yourselv?
[09:48] <geneo93> yes
[09:48] <m0ns00n> Jucato: If you can't it might be a long standing bug?
[09:49] <mulder_> Linux gman 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:49] <geneo93> yeah i see i386
[09:49] <mulder_> what does that mean Geneo?
[09:50] <geneo93> that means you have wrong kernel
[09:50] <Jucato> m0ns00n: couldn't turn it off after all... :-D
[09:50] <mulder_> is there something I can do?
[09:51] <geneo93> Linux kubuntu 2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 03:13:28 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:51] <geneo93> this is what you should have
[09:51] <mulder_> I used an Ubuntu disc, and installed the kde desktop
[09:51] <geneo93> yeah sudo apt-get install linux-image-686
[09:51] <mulder_> can I do tha?
[09:51] <mulder_> that
[09:52] <geneo93> sure
[09:52] <mulder_> Do I need anything, I mean do I have to do something special before typing in the terminal?
[09:53] <geneo93> no
[09:54] <mulder_> I can't type my password :-(
[09:54] <geneo93> if you had networking during install it  already update repositories
[09:54] <mulder_> I don't understand sorry
[09:55] <geneo93> why cant you type your passwd
[09:55] <Ademan>  if i install the xserver-xorg-air-core package and i have an nvidia card, am i in trouble?
[09:56] <mulder_> I don't know...I just can't type it
[09:56] <m0ns00n> Jucato: Then it is a KDE bug
[09:56] <geneo93> use your user passwd
[09:56] <m0ns00n> bargh
[09:56] <m0ns00n> geneo93: so much for it being my fault :-P
[09:57] <geneo93> m0ns00n:  yes your typos
[09:57] <mulder_> still the same very strange...
[09:58] <geneo93> you sure caps lock aint on or something
[09:59] <mulder_> yes I can type in here, but not my paswod in terminal
[09:59] <m0ns00n> mulder_: Perhaps you already verified your password
[09:59] <Jucato> mulder_: the password you type in the terminal isn't really visible
[09:59] <geneo93> did you paste that line
[09:59] <m0ns00n> mulder_: Then it's already remembered
[09:59] <m0ns00n> mulder_: you don't have to type in the password each time you "sudo"
[09:59] <mulder_> but when I type sudo apt-get install linux-image-686 it is fine
[10:00] <mulder_> then it ask for the password
[10:00] <m0ns00n> aha
[10:00] <m0ns00n> Then write the password
[10:00] <m0ns00n> =)
[10:00] <m0ns00n> then hit <enter>
[10:00] <m0ns00n> =)
[10:00] <geneo93> oh it dont show just hit enter after
[10:01] <m0ns00n> yup
[10:01] <m0ns00n> no ***
[10:01] <mulder_> ok trying
[10:01] <m0ns00n> mulder_: Have you found the truth out there yet?
[10:01] <m0ns00n> :-)
[10:01] <Jucato>  @_@
[10:02] <mulder_> done
[10:02] <mulder_> it says sexyscully
[10:02] <mulder_> nope not that
[10:02] <mulder_> Couldn't find package linux-image-686
[10:03] <rx_> hi. im using latest kubuntu and i cant get mp3 to work with amarok. i installed libxineengine-extra and libmad0... i dont know why it doesnt work... i guess i wont have the choice to install gstreamer right? :|
[10:04] <mulder_> I have no idea about packages...mOnsoon, Geneo.
[10:05] <mulder_> do I have to download something before I try the sudo apt-get install linux-image-686 command?
[10:05] <geneo93> sudo apt-get update try that
[10:06] <geneo93> m0ns00n:  i got mine to stop working
[10:06] <mulder_> 0% [Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  [Connecting to archive.ubunt
[10:07] <mulder_> I don't know if it is connecting
[10:07] <Jucato> mulder_: try changing the gb. to uk. there seems to be a slight problem with the gb. servers
[10:08] <mulder_> witing the terminal?
[10:08] <mulder_> within
[10:08] <geneo93> no you cant
[10:08] <mulder_> ah
[10:08] <mulder_> 0% [Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  [Connecting to archive.ubunt
[10:08] <geneo93> you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:09] <mulder_> oh...hwere...how?
[10:09] <m0ns00n> mulder_: And you can do: "apt-cache search mykeyword | grep mysubkeyword"
[10:09] <m0ns00n> mulder_: the part "| grep..." is optional
[10:09] <geneo93> nano  /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:10] <mulder_> it says: GNU nano 1.3.10                          File: /ect/apt/sources.list
[10:11] <mulder_> and a few bit of extra stuff down
[10:11] <geneo93> oh yeah need sudo before that
[10:11] <mulder_> so it is: sudo nano....
[10:12] <geneo93> yes
[10:13] <geneo93> while your there remove the # in front of universe
[10:13] <mulder_> it gave me the same thing as before
[10:14] <mulder_> and still password is a pain
[10:14] <geneo93> and edit the file
[10:14] <geneo93> it wont ever show
[10:14] <geneo93> just hit enter
[10:15] <mulder_> geneo...all there is in the window is: GNU nano 1.3.10            and File: /ect/apt/sources.list
[10:16] <geneo93> well look at the file
[10:16] <mulder_> and a few things like get help, exit, writeout,etc
[10:17] <geneo93> yes you need to use arrow keys to move up down
[10:17] <geneo93> maybe you should read some then
[10:18] <mulder_> arrow keys don't work either
[10:18] <geneo93> they do if you click on terminal
[10:19] <mulder_> I am in terminal geneo
[10:19] <mulder_> and I typed the sudo nano...
[10:21] <geneo93> well then it should scroll down with down arrow
[10:21] <mulder_> scroll down to where geneo...?
[10:22] <Dimon> !help
[10:22] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:22] <geneo93> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper  multiverse
[10:22] <geneo93> you'll see line like this
[10:23] <Darkkish> hey
[10:23] <mulder_> not at all
[10:23] <geneo93> man i cant hold your hand
[10:24] <mulder_> I am sorry I am following what you are saying, but nothing is showing up
[10:24] <Darkkish> brb
[10:24] <Darkkish> or not
[10:24] <geneo93> you dont have souces list then
[10:24] <Darkkish> k i'm a linux n00b
[10:24] <Darkkish> and i need help installing nvidia drivers
[10:24] <geneo93> you must have used gui installer
[10:24] <mulder_> probably not...I am lost at sea here
[10:24] <Darkkish> i can wait in line no prob
[10:25] <mulder_> do I have to reinstall Kubuntu/ubuntu?
[10:25] <geneo93> !repositories
[10:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:25] <geneo93> mulder_: follow those instrutions
[10:26] <Darkkish> i don't suppose there is a repository for nvidia drivers?
[10:26] <mulder_> I am listening
[10:26] <Darkkish> i'm guessing that would be easier
[10:26] <geneo93> above i posted that thing
[10:26] <geneo93> Darkkish:  you too
[10:26] <Darkkish> k
[10:26] <mulder_> yes the link
[10:27] <Darkkish> i know a little bit about repositorys
[10:27] <mulder_> I know nothing
[10:27] <mulder_> they can be found in the synptic package manager right?
[10:27] <Darkkish> or adept...
[10:27] <Darkkish> if you have it
[10:28] <Darkkish> i think its the default
[10:28] <mulder_> I have adept yes
[10:29] <Darkkish> geneo93:  do i install nvidia-glx?
[10:29] <geneo93> yes
[10:29] <Darkkish> k thanks
[10:29] <Darkkish> what about legacy and kernal
[10:29] <geneo93> then you need to enable it
[10:29] <mulder_> what should I do geneo?
[10:29] <mulder_> I am in adept
[10:30] <geneo93> follow those instructions
[10:30] <geneo93> you need repositories
[10:30] <mulder_> from synaptic?
[10:30] <geneo93> it wont work if you have nothing in list
[10:30] <Darkkish> do i need to restart?
[10:30] <Darkkish> anything?
[10:30] <geneo93> christ
[10:31] <geneo93> wait
[10:31] <mulder_> ok I am in the Synaptic Package Manager
[10:32] <mulder_> and clicked on settings to show repositeries
[10:32] <geneo93> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable  then hit ctrl alt backspace
[10:33] <mulder_> and Software Preferences opened up
[10:34] <geneo93> you have no repositories in list though
[10:35] <geneo93> !repositories
[10:35] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:35] <geneo93> mulder_:  read above
[10:35] <geneo93> and go there
[10:36] <mulder_> ok
[10:36] <geneo93> you want main universe and multiverse and that should be all you need
[10:37] <Darkkish> getting an error message
[10:37] <geneo93> from what
[10:37] <Darkkish> "Your X configureation has been altered."
[10:37] <Darkkish> from that command
[10:37] <mulder_> is that ok if it didn't ask me for my password to log as super user?
[10:37] <geneo93> well it has
[10:37] <Darkkish> yeah but it also says "This script cannot proceed automatically.
[10:38] <geneo93> mulder_:  yes it will stay for 10-15 minutes
[10:39] <geneo93> Darkkish:  did you restartx
[10:39] <Darkkish> ctrl alt backspace
[10:39] <geneo93> see nvidia logo
[10:39] <Darkkish> nopr
[10:39] <Darkkish> nope*
[10:39] <geneo93> maybe you dont have nvidia then
[10:39] <Darkkish> lol
[10:39] <Darkkish> GeForce 6600GT
[10:40] <geneo93> should work then
[10:40] <Hawkwind> You won't always see the Nvidia logo
[10:40] <geneo93> try a reboot
[10:40] <Hawkwind> Darkkish: Did you edit your xorg.conf file accordingly ?
[10:40] <geneo93> well mine is a flash of black screen
[10:40] <Darkkish> k i'll be bacl
[10:40] <Darkkish> what?
[10:41] <Darkkish> no i havn't edited it
[10:41] <geneo93> he enabled it
[10:41] <Hawkwind> You need to make sure that Driver "nv" got changed to "nvidia" as it doesn't always get done via the installer as it says
[10:41] <Darkkish> k that fixed it
[10:41] <Darkkish> thanks
[10:42] <Darkkish> ^_^
[10:42] <geneo93> Hawkwind:  this aint mandriva
[10:42] <Darkkish> no that was the problem dude
[10:42] <Hawkwind> geneo93: Notice it worked when he edited it
[10:42] <Darkkish> :p
[10:42] <Hawkwind> geneo93: It's a known Nvidia problem
[10:42] <Darkkish> brb
[10:43] <geneo93> well mine did it without any trouble
[10:43] <Hawkwind> geneo93: It works for some, but far from all
[10:43] <Hawkwind> geneo93: It does it in every distro out there
[10:44] <geneo93> the only one i ever had trouble with was mandriva
[10:45] <mulder_> geneo I have added multiverse, clicked apply and closed...but it says waiting for headers and get stuck at 0%
[10:45] <mulder_> doesn't seem to download
[10:46] <Hawkwind> Change mirrors from archive.ubuntu.com to something like se.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:46] <geneo93> uk
[10:46] <geneo93> i know that works
[10:46] <mulder_> ok
[10:47] <geneo93> close adept
[10:47] <mulder_> done
[10:47] <geneo93> glad they got rid of that ugly thing
[10:47] <mulder_> who windows users?
[10:47] <geneo93> sudo apt-get update
[10:48] <geneo93> adept
[10:51] <mulder_> shall I close everything?
[10:52] <geneo93> like what do you have open
[10:53] <mulder_> it is strange because my repositories were enabled by default
[10:54] <mulder_> and I have many choices for the type
[10:54] <geneo93> well now you need synaptic
[10:54] <mulder_> ok
[10:55] <geneo93> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[10:55] <mulder_> opened
[10:55] <geneo93> ok mark updates
[10:56] <geneo93> then apply
[10:56] <mulder_> I have Mark all upgrades
[10:56] <intelikey> geneo93 not like adept ?
[10:56] <geneo93> no it sucks
[10:57] <geneo93> it removed it here and i'm glad
[10:57] <intelikey> sucks ?    low pressure ?
[10:57] <geneo93> blows high presure
[10:57] <mulder_> nothing happens geneo
[10:58] <geneo93> what did you install from
[10:58] <mulder_> A dvd...magazine dvd
[10:58] <darkkish> grrr
[10:58] <geneo93> you have all repositories checked
[10:58] <darkkish> man my linux won't boot now
[10:59] <darkkish> i'm on live CD
[10:59] <darkkish> >_>
[10:59] <darkkish> i did ctrl alt backspace
[10:59] <mulder_> yes
[10:59] <darkkish> and my moniter went into standby and wouldn't come out
[10:59] <darkkish> so i restarted
[10:59] <Hawkwind> darkkish: Change nvidia back to nv then
[10:59] <darkkish> >_>
[11:00] <darkkish> i can't mount
[11:00] <darkkish> on live CD O.O
[11:00] <mulder_> checked Installation media, internet updates, and there are two choices in authentification
[11:00] <martascz> nkdo kdo um esky.....-)
[11:01] <darkkish> ?
[11:01] <intelikey> darkkish why not?    what does  sudo fdisk -l      tell you the partition number/address is ?
[11:01] <belatucadros> would anyone in here by chance know what could cause my BattleField 2 to tell me my CD key is invalid?
[11:01] <darkkish> yes
[11:01] <darkkish> if someone else gets it via keygen
[11:01] <darkkish> and trys it
[11:01] <darkkish> OR
[11:02] <darkkish> if you enter it wrong
[11:02] <belatucadros> doubtful mine is legit
[11:02] <mulder_> Geez I have lost a few hair trying to sort this out...
[11:02] <belatucadros> and its the right key but I can't get into any online servers
[11:02] <darkkish> ID is 83(?)
[11:02] <darkkish> sudo fdisk -l
[11:02] <darkkish> oops
[11:02] <darkkish> /dev/hda5   *       20968       24661    29672023+  83  Linux
[11:03] <intelikey> so sudo mount /dev/hda5 /mnt
[11:03] <mulder_> can't have duo core cpsus recognized, can't have my ati x1400 displaying in 1280x800...and cannot get updates
[11:03] <Arkkis> darnit darkkish, your nick has mine inside it, I get hilights :D
[11:04] <darkkish> k thanks
[11:04] <darkkish> lol wierd
[11:04] <darkkish> never noticed that
[11:04] <darkkish> or expected that*
[11:04] <martascz> kdo poradi? mam problem se zvukem na Kubuntu .6,06  AC Via 97 integr.....
[11:04] <belatucadros> Im trying to be the first person to go to the local lan and be running linux...I have 2 probs first it says my CD key is invalid and second it exits the game at random for no apparent reason
[11:04] <darkkish> er
[11:04] <darkkish> try the channel for yoru language
[11:04] <Hawkwind> martascz: English only here please
[11:05] <martascz> no english speek......help mee....
[11:05] <Hawkwind> martascz: What language do you speak ?
[11:05] <mulder_> guess I better give up Linux.Thanks for your help.
[11:05] <martascz> czech...
[11:05] <Hawkwind> !cz
[11:05] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[11:05] <geneo93> hey try a different source for install
[11:06] <oliver_> hi
[11:06] <darkkish> k now i'm getting a write protection error
[11:07] <mulder_> I have no idea of what I am doing...clicked all the boxes, nothing download
[11:07] <belatucadros> there's this friend of a friend who is an MS fan and my other reason for linux is so I can rub in the fact that BattleField 2 will run on linux as good as windows
[11:07] <darkkish> lol
[11:07] <darkkish> you have to hit apply changes or w/e
[11:07] <geneo93> did you click reload
[11:07] <darkkish> belatucadros: unlikely
[11:07] <zarbos> hi
[11:07] <oliver_> still trying to get RADEON - fglrx 3D support installed, can someone help ???
[11:08] <belatucadros> actually up until I get the game exiting on me it runs as smooth so far
[11:08] <geneo93> mulder_:  click reload
[11:08] <belatucadros> but like I said the game exits at random and tells me for online play that the CD key is invalid :S
[11:09] <pexi> hi
[11:09] <darkkish> Gene k so now that i changed nvidia back to nv
[11:09] <darkkish> geneo93:  k so now that i changed nvidia back to nv will my drivers still not work?
[11:09] <pexi> someone use kubuntu in ibook g3?
[11:10] <darkkish> >_>
[11:10] <darkkish> i g2g real soon
[11:10] <darkkish> i'ma try restarting
[11:10] <darkkish> and i'll take care of it later if it doesn't work
[11:15] <intelikey> hmmm i found a good use for /usr/bin/yes    :)        yes >> /dev/fd0u1440      bug squasher !
[11:16] <mulder_> sorry geneo yes I did
[11:16] <mulder_> nothing happens...no connection
[11:17] <mulder_> what can't I get the updates rolling when I am connected to the internet.Annoying
[11:18] <mulder_> Also need to install newest version of firefox, only running 1.5.03
[11:19] <noiesmo> mulder_, can you surf the web. even though updates not working
[11:19] <mulder_> yes
[11:19] <noiesmo> do you have a d-link modem or router
[11:19] <mulder_> Konqueror and fireofx working
[11:19] <mulder_> dlink
[11:19] <mulder_> router wireless
[11:19] <noiesmo> a mates got the same problem
[11:20] <noiesmo> its to do with ipv6
[11:20] <mulder_> I changed this into firefox from false to true
[11:20] <mulder_> about:config
[11:20] <noiesmo> yes thats why firefox works
[11:20] <mulder_> but can't download any packages and update anything...
[11:21] <mulder_> new kde or updates for kubuntu
[11:21] <mulder_> need to have ny duo core cpu recognized, as well as my ati x1400
[11:21] <noiesmo> from memory dns could also be your issue it wants to use say 10.0.0.1 which is your router but this doesnt work for some reason
[11:22] <noiesmo> i havent sorted it he just comes over here every now and then and i update for him
[11:22] <mulder_> I am really new to all this, and I am lost
[11:22] <noiesmo> this doesnt help you I know but it might lead to a solution
[11:22] <mulder_> better than nothing :-)
[11:23] <mulder_> I mean I have no problem under windows...the router works fine
[11:23] <mulder_> on Kubuntu, wireless was recognized straight away.
[11:23] <noiesmo> yes same for me mate
[11:24] <noiesmo> he's dual boot system
[11:24] <intelikey> one can edit [ /etc/modprobe.d/aliases ]     and change line    { alias net-pf-10 ipv6 }    to    { alias net-pf-10 off }     then restart.    to disable ipv6
[11:24] <noiesmo> intelikey, i will try this you could be my hero :)
[11:24] <mulder_> what does that do Intel?
[11:25] <intelikey> turns ipv6 off in the kernel   if i understand it correctly mulder_
[11:27] <mulder_> I mean my main problems right now are: can't update anything/cannot have my 2 cpus recognized/cannot have a 1280x800 display res
[11:27] <mulder_> where do turn the ipvc6 off from Intel?
[11:28] <intelikey> mulder_ the file i mentioned ^
[11:28] <mulder_> not from the terminal?
[11:28] <intelikey> mulder_ as to the smp question  use the i686 kernel
[11:29] <mulder_> geneo kindly helped me but I can't get the file
 not from the terminal? <-- i would edit it from the terminal   but you don't have to
[11:30] <intelikey> well actually console rather than terminal but that's superflutious.
[11:30] <mulder_> from console ok
[11:30] <geneo93> konsole in kde
[11:30] <intelikey> yeah that would be a terminal
[11:31] <mulder_> so what do I have to type in there?
[11:31] <intelikey> nano /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[11:32] <intelikey> err sudo that
[11:32] <xst> Are there any significant changes in kde 3.5.4 (would you recommend an upgrade) or is it primary minor fixes?
[11:32] <Tm_T> xst: wide minor fixes sums up to big difference
[11:33] <mulder_> ok in there
[11:33] <xst> But why doesn't it go into dapper automatically?
[11:33] <intelikey> change  { alias net-pf-10 ipv6 }    to    { alias net-pf-10 off }   save and exit.
[11:33] <Tm_T> xst: because of version freeze
[11:33] <xst> ok
[11:34] <xst> thanks
[11:34] <Tm_T> xst: upstream versions get locked sometime before release so we can make sure relase stay stable
[11:35] <Tm_T> all extra like newer KDE etc will go to next release and extra repositories
[11:35] <mulder_> save as defaut right?
[11:35] <intelikey> yes
[11:35] <Tm_T> xst: that way user can choose upgrade or not :)
[11:35] <mulder_> ok done
[11:35] <mulder_> what next Intel?
[11:36] <geneo93> you can have larest kde in dapper
[11:36] <intelikey> restart is required to affect that change.... err at least it's the easy way
[11:36] <geneo93> latest
[11:36] <mulder_> restart kubuntu?
[11:36] <Tm_T> yup, from extra repository, kubuntu.org <3
[11:36] <intelikey> restart linux
[11:37] <noiesmo> mulder_,  reboot
[11:37] <mulder_> ok will come back here after
[11:37] <intelikey> ok
[11:39] <intelikey> back in a few.
[11:39] <noiesmo> k
[11:40] <sfkhooper> anyone seen thompa online?
[11:41] <mulder> ok back
[11:41] <mulder> what should I do from now?
[11:41] <Tm_T> !seen thompa
[11:41] <ubotu> I last saw thompa (n=thom@c-69-180-208-122.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) 2h 20m 39s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[11:41] <Tm_T> sfkhooper: there you go
[11:42] <sfkhooper> Tm_T: cool, thanks
[11:43] <freeze_> hello
[11:43] <mulder> Intel?
[11:43] <noiesmo> mulder, try updateing or install a package
[11:43] <mulder> ok
[11:43] <noiesmo> mulder, he'll be back shortly
[11:44] <freeze_> is there someone who could give me some advice? i am quite new to ubuntu though...
[11:44] <noiesmo> !ask > freeze_
[11:44] <mulder> doesn't seem to work :-(
[11:45] <intelikey> ok back.
[11:45] <noiesmo> intelikey, it doesnt seem to work for mulder
[11:45] <noiesmo> maybe its dns related
[11:45] <intelikey> mulder do   apt-get update   and watch for error messages.
[11:46] <noiesmo> mulder, open a konsole and type sudo apt-get update
[11:46] <mulder> in terminal yes?
[11:46] <mulder> ok
[11:46] <noiesmo> whats error
[11:46] <intelikey> sudo that ^
[11:46] <freeze_> ok, well: I recently installed Ubuntu 6.06 on an old box we use for administrative tasks. installation went fine, only resolution was stuck at 640x480. This was solved by editing xorg.conf (added HorizRefresh and VertSync in monitor section). Resolution is fine now but I can't lock my screen either by using the standard logoff dialog nor by using the lock screen button i added to the gimp bar
[11:46] <noiesmo> freeze_, just ask you question if someone knows they'll answer
[11:47] <freeze_> yep, just took some time to type in ;)
[11:47] <noiesmo> np :)
[11:47] <mulder> I can't type my password in
[11:47] <mulder> I had that prblem before...
[11:48] <geneo93> it wont show
[11:48] <intelikey> !password
[11:48] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StrongPasswords
[11:49] <intelikey> not that one
[11:49] <mulder> ok ubotu...you're a nice bot
[11:49] <geneo93> he thinks he should see it
[11:49] <geneo93> just type it in and hit enter
[11:49] <mulder> sudo nano apt-get update? right
[11:49] <intelikey> no
[11:50] <freeze_> oh, just saw i am in Kubuntu, using Ubuntu though
[11:50] <intelikey> sudo apt-get update
[11:50] <mulder> ok
[11:51] <mulder> ok it is saying connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)
[11:51] <mulder> but it stays at 0%
[11:52] <geneo93> i thought you changed it to uk
[11:52] <intelikey> ah gb.   try another mirror   ihave seen several have trubble with gb.    try nl.
[11:52] <geneo93> uk is best for uk
[11:53] <intelikey> mulder or even remove the gb.  and let it default to first hit.
[11:53] <noiesmo> its a dns problem mulder intelikey
[11:53] <intelikey> noiesmo resolved by ?
[11:54] <mulder> says could not connect...timed out
[11:54] <noiesmo> I don't know as i said earlier i've got a mate with same issue
[11:54] <geneo93> ok edit your sources then to uk instead of gb
[11:54] <mulder> repositories again?
[11:54] <geneo93> yes
[11:55] <intelikey> noiesmo i'm no network admin    more like network illiterate     but i have seen some with gb.  change it and then apt would work.
[11:56] <mulder> I have many sources showing...
[11:56] <geneo93> so change them all to uk
[11:56] <intelikey> so unless you have a better idea,  i'd say try that.   worst case user frustration.
[11:56] <intelikey> @ noiesmo ^
[11:56] <noiesmo> intelikey, yes thats no probs i was just saying
[11:58] <noiesmo> was hopeing someone else here might have known intelikey
[11:58] <intelikey> well i know when i'm stabbing in the dark, and am ready for any input...  so i replied like i did.   ;)
[12:00] <mulder> nothing
[12:01] <mulder> geez...
[12:01] <geneo93> try pinging one of those
[12:01] <geneo93> ping url
[12:02] <noiesmo> ok maybe get you isp dns ip and add it to /etc/resolv.conf
[12:02] <geneo93> mulder:  pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:02] <noiesmo> this should be the dns your routers using
[12:02] <mulder> in konsole?
[12:03] <geneo93> yes
[12:03] <geneo93> well you can use konqueror
[12:03] <noiesmo> mulder, can you ping www.google.com or does it say 1.0.0.0 as ip
[12:03] <noiesmo> in terminal or konsole
[12:04] <mulder> hold on...what should I type in konsole. getting confused now
[12:04] <noiesmo> try ping www.google.com
[12:05] <mulder> command not found
[12:05] <noiesmo> ping www.google.com
[12:05] <intelikey> mulder ok,  let me digress here for a moment.     you are talking to us on the box you are working on ?     so then it's not a lack of contenuity per'se .   the apt update request times out, so the server or local config is at fault.   changing the mirror should eliminate the former.    that leaves the local configs.      process of elimination.    pastebin your sources.list
[12:05] <geneo93> 87-80-19-112  mulder thats the ip your should have in resolve.conf
[12:06] <mulder> ok it is pinging google
[12:07] <geneo93> gimme your sources list
[12:08] <mulder> 216.239.59.103 is that right?
[12:08] <mulder> or is it googlr
[12:08] <geneo93> you can get your ip from getmyip
[12:09] <mulder> 87.80.19.112
[12:09] <geneo93> thats what i got but it maybe different
[12:09] <mulder> that's the one
[12:10] <geneo93> http://www.getmyip.co.uk/
[12:11] <mulder> done it geneo that 87.80.19.112
[12:11] <geneo93> your dns will be a bit different though
[12:12] <mulder> you want my ip or dns?
[12:12] <mulder> ip is the one above
[12:13] <geneo93> your dns should be in resolv.conf
[12:13] <mulder> in konsole?
[12:13] <geneo93> no in /etc/resolv.conf
[12:13] <intelikey> cat /etc/reslov.conf
[12:14] <intelikey> hehhe typo  s/lo/ol/
[12:14] <mulder> 10.1.1.1
[12:15] <geneo93> no thats not right
[12:15] <intelikey> something like
[12:15] <intelikey> nameserver 205.171.3.65
[12:15] <intelikey> nameserver 205.171.2.65
[12:17] <mulder> pfewwww. where do I type cat /etc/resolv.conf?
[12:17] <geneo93> apt-get update
[12:18] <geneo93> in terminal
[12:21] <mulder> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:21] <mulder> E: Unable to lock the list direc
[12:21] <mulder> from the terminal
[12:21] <geneo93> you have synaptic open
[12:21] <intelikey> or adept
[12:21] <mulder> I had
[12:22] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> eey
[12:22] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> hello
[12:23] <mulder> same message
[12:23] <geneo93> give it a minute
[12:23] <geneo93> sudo remember
[12:25] <mulder> ok trying again
[12:26] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> can u help me ?
[12:27] <intelikey> i find it odd that you can have executables /bin/this /usr/bin/this /usr/local/bin/this   and which ever one is first in your path, if you exec it.  then rm it.  bash can't find any of the others  it just errors command not found.
[12:27] <mulder> same message again guys
[12:27] <mulder> ready to throw the towel
[12:27] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> whet program can i use to program c of c++?
[12:28] <geneo93> mulder:  reboot
[12:28] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> what?
[12:28] <intelikey> kdevelop ?
[12:28] <intelikey> emacs ?
[12:28] <intelikey> vim ?
[12:29] <intelikey> nano   but i wouldn't recomend it.
[12:29] <intelikey> [36C] m4sterm1nd install  build-essential   first.
[12:30] <intelikey> xemacs might like you    idk.
[12:30] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> ok
[12:31] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> i installing build-essential:)
[12:31] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> done
[12:31] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> ok
[12:31] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> done:P
[12:31] <intelikey> give kdevelop a chance.
[12:32] <intelikey> install kdevelop
[12:32] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> what do i need now to program c or c++?
[12:32] <intelikey> you need to know C    hehhe.
[12:32] <Healot> a text editor, or an IDE, a compiler toolchain for C/C++ and knowledge of
[12:33] <Healot> C/C++ :)
[12:33] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> lol
[12:33] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> yea k
[12:33] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> bt what program
[12:33] <aliasfred> !build
[12:33] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:34] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> he can't fing kdevelop..
[12:34] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> find..
[12:34] <intelikey> !info kdevelop
[12:34] <ubotu> Package kdevelop does not exist in dapper
[12:34] <intelikey> guess not.
[12:34] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> :)
[12:34] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> so?
[12:35] <mulder> ok back on again
[12:35] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> lol
[12:35] <intelikey> !info kdevelop3
[12:35] <ubotu> kdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB
[12:35] <geneo93> mulder:  make sure your resolv.conf didn't change
[12:36] <intelikey> forgot they incliude the number.
[12:36] <mulder> where do I check Geneo?
[12:36] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> adept manager don't find it..
[12:36] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> :(
[12:36] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> :P
[12:36] <geneo93> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[12:37] <intelikey> In component universe, is optional. <^   repos dude
[12:37] <intelikey> !repos
[12:37] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:37] <mulder> still from terminal right?
[12:37] <geneo93> yes
[12:38] <mulder> name server says 10.1.1.1
[12:38] <geneo93> ok your have to edit that
[12:38] <mulder> lead the way :-)
[12:40] <geneo93> hey open it with konqueror and edit as root
[12:40] <mulder> how can I edit that Geneo?
[12:40] <mulder> ok
[12:40] <geneo93> it'll be under actions
[12:41] <geneo93> just right click it
[12:41] <mulder> hold on I am in konqueror now
[12:42] <mulder> where do I go
[12:42] <geneo93> ok then hit the up arrow
[12:42] <geneo93> twice
[12:42] <mulder> huh?
[12:42] <geneo93> on the browser
[12:42] <mulder> yes
[12:42] <geneo93> the one next to the house
[12:43] <geneo93> open etc
[12:43] <mulder> yes but not highlighted
[12:43] <geneo93> find it
[12:44] <geneo93> down in the bottom section
[12:44] <intelikey> wooooWWW   i installed from kubuntu live CD   tweeked my system.    i just typed in urpmi kde and it says "Need to get 219MB of archives. is this ok ? "   i think not!   dialup has an unsavory aroma when it comes to ld'ing more than 5m...
[12:45] <mulder> well many folders there, root too
[12:45] <geneo93> well kde installs all of kde
[12:45] <geneo93> you want etc
[12:45] <mulder> ok
[12:45] <Dimon> there is kubuntu-desktop packade..
[12:45] <Dimon> *package
[12:46] <mulder> in there now
[12:46] <geneo93> scrool down to bottom
[12:46] <mulder> yes
[12:46] <geneo93> ok right click it
[12:47] <geneo93> actions
[12:47] <geneo93> edit as root
[12:47] <Jucato> "kde" is a metapackage that installs all main kde packages. kde-base (w/c installs kdebase, arts, etc),kdeaddons, kdeutils, kdemultimedia,kdegraphics, kdenetwork
[12:47] <intelikey> yeah i can get kde-core at the reasonable price of 1328kB  :)
[12:47] <mulder> is it that wvdial.conf?
[12:47] <geneo93> no resolv.conf
[12:47] <mulder> ok yes
[12:48] <Jucato> kde-core only installed 79 packages on my system :-D
[12:48] <mulder> in there now
[12:48] <geneo93> hope you know your dns
[12:48] <mulder> it opened KWrite
[12:48] <geneo93> well dont open it
[12:48] <geneo93>  do what i said
[12:48] <intelikey> Jucato 34 here.
[12:49] <mulder> ok following you
[12:49] <geneo93> right click
[12:49] <mulder> where?
[12:49] <geneo93> actions
[12:49] <Jucato> wow. only 79? hmm... I must have had my universe repos enabled that time...
[12:49] <geneo93> on the file
[12:49] <Jucato> s/79/34
[12:49] <mulder> resolv.conf?
[12:50] <geneo93> yes
[12:50] <mulder> done that...
[12:50] <mulder> it opened Kwrite
[12:50] <mulder> and name server 10.1.1.1 in it
[12:50] <intelikey> Jucato it only installs what it depends on that is NOT already installed.
[12:50] <geneo93> crist
[12:50] <Jucato> intelikey: oh yeah :-D
[12:51] <mulder> he is in peace Geneo..let him b
[12:51] <geneo93> man this is impossible
[12:51] <intelikey> lol
[12:51] <mulder> come on don't give up on me now
[12:52] <intelikey> mulder you somphin else dude   ;)
[12:52] <mulder> the truth is out there buddy
[12:52] <geneo93> well your going to have to learn nano then
[12:52] <mulder> I have been in nano mode the day I installed ubuntu
[12:52] <geneo93> back to terminal
[12:52] <mulder> what do i do with the Kwrite thingy?
[12:53] <mulder> close it?
[12:53] <osh_> If I open konqueror in a directory and right-click, I get the option to create a new (Write/Spreadsheet/Impression) document. Unfortunatly they seem to be connected to koffice, not oo.o that's been installed. How do I change that?
[12:53] <intelikey> yeah close it.
[12:53] <mulder> oky dokey
[12:53] <intelikey> then sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[12:53] <geneo93> sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[12:54] <geneo93> mulder:  get that now
[12:54] <geneo93> should be two lines
[12:55] <intelikey> isn't there a wiki on resolv.conf   i've seen several hammer this thing before....
[12:55] <mulder> name server 10.1.1.1
[12:55] <geneo93> well he can follow me
[12:55] <mulder> :-)
[12:55] <geneo93> you there
[12:55] <mulder> one of my best case here .Yes there
[12:56] <geneo93> ok click on line
[12:56] <mulder> name server...?
[12:56] <geneo93> yes
[12:56] <mulder> ok
[12:56] <geneo93> use arrow key to move curser
[12:56] <mulder> ok
[12:57] <geneo93> get rid of numbers and put in correct one
[12:57] <geneo93> backspace should remove them
[12:57] <mulder> correct ones?
[12:57] <geneo93> yes your dns
[12:58] <mulder> I need to get thr right dns dude
[12:58] <geneo93> your isp number
[12:58] <mulder> ok
[12:58] <J4t______> geneo93: couldnt he just get them from the dhcp? or have i missed smth
[12:58] <geneo93> he has firewall built in router
[12:59] <geneo93> dhcp dont work
[12:59] <J4t______> in that case the router holds the dhcp?
[12:59] <mulder> my isp have two dns number
[12:59] <geneo93> right
[12:59] <mulder> prmiary and secondary
[12:59] <geneo93> yes
[12:59] <J4t______> oh well :)
[12:59] <geneo93> enter those
[12:59] <geneo93> two lines
[12:59] <intelikey> seperate lines
[12:59] <mulder> after name server
[12:59] <mulder> ok
[01:00] <intelikey> nameserver ******
[01:00] <intelikey> nameserver ******
[01:00] <intelikey> like that ^
[01:00] <geneo93> yes
[01:00] <geneo93> dont forget the periods
[01:00] <mulder> the dots you mean
[01:01] <intelikey> nameserver #.#.#.#
[01:01] <mulder> guys I am in konsole is that right?
[01:01] <geneo93> its a period
[01:01] <intelikey> in numbers it decimal ?
[01:01] <intelikey> :)
[01:01] <geneo93> point
[01:02] <geneo93> seperator
[01:02] <mulder> ok fellas konsole or terminal?
[01:02] <mulder> I am in konsole right now
[01:02] <geneo93> konsole
[01:02] <mulder> ok
[01:02] <geneo93> thats same thing
[01:02] <mulder> entered
[01:02] <geneo93> xterminal really
[01:02] <mulder> save as default
[01:03] <geneo93> ok ctrl o
[01:03] <intelikey> ^o
[01:03] <mulder> then exit?
[01:03] <geneo93> then ctrl x
[01:03] <intelikey> ^x
[01:04] <mulder> and?
[01:04] <geneo93> crtrl works just fine
[01:04] <geneo93> your done for now
[01:04] <geneo93> now try update
[01:04] <intelikey> sudo apt-get update
[01:05] <intelikey> ^c  if it doesn't work   :)
[01:05] <mulder> ok hold on
[01:06] <intelikey> geneo93 assuming this fixes him,  what will you sujest to make that permanant ?
[01:06] <geneo93> oh we'll get there
[01:06] <mulder> unable to connect to http
[01:07] <mulder> stuck at 16%...
[01:07] <geneo93> he going to have to set up static ip
[01:07] <intelikey> 16%
[01:07] <intelikey> 16%   means it hit.
[01:07] <geneo93> i want your sources list damn it
[01:07] <mulder> and stop there
[01:08] <geneo93> !pastebin
[01:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:08] <mulder> should all of them have multiverse and universe?
[01:08] <geneo93> go there and paste them in
[01:08] <geneo93> well you need main also
[01:09] <mulder> Errhttp: dapper-security Release.gpg
[01:09] <mulder>   Unable to connect to  http:
[01:09] <mulder> Ign http: dapper-security Release
[01:09] <mulder> Ign http: dapper-security/main Packages
[01:09] <mulder> Ign http: dapper-security/universe Packages
[01:09] <mulder> Ign http: dapper-security/universe Sources
[01:09] <geneo93> mulder:  go to site above and paste sources.list
[01:09] <mulder> Errhttp: dapper-security/main Packages
[01:09] <mulder>   Unable to connect to  http:
[01:09] <mulder> Errhttp: dapper-security/universe Packages
[01:09] <mulder>   Unable to connect to  http:
[01:09] <mulder> Errhttp: dapper-security/universe Sources
[01:10] <mulder>   Unable to connect to  http:
[01:10] <mulder> Errhttp://uk.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg
[01:10] <mulder>   Could not connect to uk.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[01:10] <mulder> Errhttp://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg
[01:10] <mulder>   Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed ou
[01:10] <Jazon_init3> hi folks.  has there been any recent developments with dapper and acpi issues?
[01:11] <intelikey> there's the answer we've all been looking for.   sources.list is hosed.
[01:11] <geneo93> thats why i want it
[01:12] <intelikey> yeah i asked him to pastebin that ah hour ago
[01:12] <geneo93> well i think i did two hours ago
[01:12] <geneo93>  but someone said it wasn't the problem!!
[01:14] <mulder> done
[01:14] <geneo93> you get them all now
[01:14] <mulder> Well guys don't rant about me, I have no clue what I am doing as I am starting :-)
[01:14] <geneo93> ok sudo apt-get dist-ugrade
[01:15] <geneo93> you have to remember these steps though
[01:15] <geneo93> or write them down
[01:15] <mulder> Reading package lists... Done
[01:15] <mulder> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:15] <mulder> Calculating upgrade...Done
[01:15] <mulder> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:16] <intelikey> or save bash_history into a script    :)
[01:16] <geneo93> so you must have 6.06-1
[01:16] <geneo93> hey mulder
[01:17] <intelikey> lsb-release -a ?
[01:17] <mulder> I have installed ubuntu, and then added kde
[01:17] <geneo93> uname -a in terminal
[01:17] <intelikey> that doesn't give distro info
[01:17] <geneo93> paste the results here
[01:17] <geneo93> yes
[01:17] <intelikey> only kernel info
[01:17] <mulder> Linux gman 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:17] <geneo93> it tell me what i need to know
[01:18] <geneo93> nope he needs updates
[01:18] <mulder> and he needs sanity because he is losing it
[01:19] <intelikey> mulder you are just starting in linux   no?
[01:19] <mulder> yes absolute beginner
[01:19] <geneo93> well let me paste my sources list and you copy and paste it in your home dir
[01:19] <intelikey> mulder how many years did you play with M$   before you could admin and setup the system ?
[01:20] <mulder> a few...I am no IT guru
[01:20] <mulder> not a mole either I learned
[01:21] <intelikey> mulder it takes. time to learn linux.   and your knowledge of other os's work against you,   you think you should know; when in truth it's easier if you start with no computer knowledge...
[01:21] <geneo93> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20654   go here and copy this
[01:22] <mulder> where should I copy it geneo?
[01:22] <geneo93> just in home dir for now
[01:23] <mulder> ok what is home dir?
[01:23] <mulder> or where?
[01:23] <geneo93> the little thing next to menu button
[01:23] <mulder> home folder?
[01:24] <geneo93> yes
[01:24] <intelikey> mulder be patient,  you'll learn it quickly enough.   and when you have began to think in linux terms rather than M$ terms,  you'll be hooked; just like the rest of us...  :)
[01:24] <intelikey> ok that was just a "hopefully" incuraging word,  not meant to distract.
[01:24] <geneo93> i've been using linux since 1999 and nothing but
[01:25] <mulder> I know guys that is why I want to learn...you have been very helpful :-)
[01:25] <geneo93> get that copied
[01:26] <mulder> how?
[01:26] <geneo93> highlight it then copy
[01:26] <mulder> ok done
[01:27] <geneo93> start at the top and drag mouse down the whole text
[01:27] <mulder> done
[01:27] <mulder> copied and pasted
[01:27] <geneo93> ok save it as sources.list
[01:28] <geneo93> or name it that
[01:29] <mulder> save as text file though?
[01:29] <geneo93> ok ready for some tricks
[01:30] <geneo93> yes
[01:30] <mulder> ok
[01:30] <geneo93> only copy text in main box right
[01:30] <mulder> yes father
[01:31] <Kiongku> hi. I need help. My usplash shows blank screen
[01:31] <geneo93> ok now in konsole type sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:32] <Kiongku> geneo93: u are not telling me right?
[01:32] <geneo93> no
[01:32] <Kiongku> ah. guessed so..
[01:32] <geneo93> mulder:  get that
[01:32] <mulder> rm: cannot remove `/etc/apt/sources.list': No such file or directory
[01:33] <intelikey> Kiongku he's been with mulder now for about 2 hours  and they are 2/3 finished. i'd guess.
[01:33] <intelikey> Kiongku i'd offer to help with the usplash issue but i never use usplash.
[01:33] <geneo93> mulder:  you sure its not there
[01:33] <ultimate-`> yooo
[01:33] <ultimate-`> anyone up
[01:34] <mulder> that is the message I get
[01:34] <ultimate-`> i`m tryin to install kubuntu on vmware , it booted as a live cd and now when its installing , one of the progress shows scanning for mirrors (but my internet connection is not shared
[01:34] <ultimate-`> the thing is not timing out what should i do
[01:34] <exceswater> hi
[01:34] <Kiongku> intellikey: what boot splash u use? or u dunt put any
[01:34] <intelikey> Kiongku none
[01:35] <geneo93> ok the try sudo cp /home/username/sources.list
[01:35] <mulder> cp: missing destination file operand after `/home/username/sources.list'
[01:35] <mulder> Try `cp --help' for more information.
[01:35] <geneo93> username is your name
[01:35] <Kiongku> intellikey: black screen boot?
[01:36] <jujimufu> hey, I tried enabling 3d acceleration for my 855G (i810 intel) card, according to this site: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver and I restarted X, but in glxinfo, it still says "direct rendering: No"
[01:36] <geneo93> mulder:  what is the name of user
[01:36] <intelikey> Kiongku text    yes  gray on black.
[01:36] <geneo93> i knew you'd do that
[01:36] <intelikey> Kiongku also not running X    console user am i
[01:36] <Kiongku> intellikey: ehrm ok.. 1st question.. the line fb_vesa in config.. should it be m or y?
[01:37] <intelikey> y
[01:37] <mulder> ok even with mulder it fails
[01:37] <geneo93> yes you need destination
[01:37] <intelikey> Kiongku which is it ?     and you are talking about building the kernel there arent you ?
[01:38] <mulder> I am going banana...
[01:38] <Kiongku> intellikey: i already built my kernel..my new kernel cant use usplash thats why
[01:38] <geneo93> ok sudo cp /home/mulder/sources.list /etc/apt/
[01:39] <intelikey> yep that's why.    you can have fb with your vidio cards driver rather than using vesa   but yeah  just for a few seconds of a startup picture.... vesa is more than plenty.
[01:39] <intelikey> @ Kiongku ^
[01:39] <mulder> well I typed that one and it stays there
[01:39] <Kiongku> intellikey: and vga16 and frambbuffer console.. also y?
[01:40] <tobias___> my amaroK visualiser dont work and i have installed all the libvisual stuff i found in adept and i restarted the machine three times, what to do? I want to see it in full screen and change between visualisers like i did in *sigh* winamp and windows media player *sigh*
[01:40] <geneo93> ok now check cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:40] <intelikey> yes
[01:40] <Kiongku> intellikey:sudo dpgk-reconfigure linux-image-(your kernel version)
[01:40] <Kiongku> now that line does not work for me also
[01:41] <mulder> does the same nothing happens
[01:41] <Kiongku> intellikey: konsole says cant find the image of my new kernel
[01:42] <intelikey> Kiongku can't reconfigure with dpkg something you compiled and installed with make       solution  compile then make a deb out of it and install with dpkg
[01:42] <intelikey> or simply put.   yes.
[01:42] <geneo93> mulder:  i hate to tell you this but i think your wasting your time you've got a bad install or something
[01:42] <mulder> crap
[01:42] <Kiongku> intellikey: the image was in .deb format and i did dpkg to install my new kernel
[01:43] <geneo93> yuor sure its not there
[01:43] <mulder> the file is the home folder yes
[01:43] <intelikey> hmmm then it should reconfigure
[01:43] <ultimate-`> i`m tryin to install kubuntu on vmware , it booted as a live cd and now when its installing , one of the progress shows scanning for mirrors (but my internet connection is not shared
[01:43] <geneo93> mulder:  did you use live cd to install
[01:43] <ultimate-`> how can i skip that
[01:44] <Kiongku> intellikey: in menu.lst for grub is this line any good "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17.8 root=/dev/hdb1 vga=794"
[01:44] <intelikey> update-rc.d   remove networking  maybe ultimate-`
[01:44] <Kiongku> or should it be "kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17.8 root=/dev/hdb1 reo quiet splash"
[01:44] <Kiongku> *ro
[01:44] <ultimate-`> ok
[01:45] <geneo93> mulder:  i have to sleep it almost 8 am here
[01:46] <intelikey> Kiongku hmmm 794    yeah  but you might try 788  if you are having trubble with 794    remember that is using vesa  so rez is not what your vidio card can handle, it's what vesa knows it can handle
[01:46] <Kiongku> geneo93: lol 15 46 here
[01:46] <Kiongku> intellikey: whats does ro quiet splash means then?
[01:46] <geneo93> well i'm on the other side
[01:47] <geneo93> quiet means its not going to bitch
[01:47] <intelikey> yes as far as i can tell, Kiongku that should work ok.
[01:47] <geneo93> splash i use nosplash
[01:47] <Kiongku> lol
[01:48] <Kiongku> btw dpkg really cant find my new kernel in its database -_- could it be the reason?
[01:48] <mulder> well thanks for your help geneo, Intel...I am giving up on trying to make Linux works. I go back to windows. Thanks for your help.
[01:48] <geneo93> i have stupid things like M$ uses
[01:48] <intelikey> geneo93 splash not working was Kiongku's issue to begin with.  :)
[01:48] <geneo93> mulder:  come back later and i'll help you more
[01:49] <Kiongku> whats was the prob for mulder?
[01:49] <geneo93> Kiongku:  he has a mess
[01:49] <Kiongku> lol?
[01:49] <roman_> joooooooow
[01:49] <Kiongku> clean install from live cd not good for him o0
[01:49] <mulder> mulder rimes with murder...i can kill any os right now
[01:49] <geneo93> yeah
[01:50] <geneo93> needs to do text install
[01:50] <roman_> is hier imand nederlander
[01:50] <Kiongku> geneo93: that hurts..
[01:50] <intelikey> Kiongku if dpkg installed something and then can't find it in it's db  there is something dreadfully wrong there.    i question that you actually both compiled and used dpkg to install after compiling.....   what command did you issue to build the .deb file ?
[01:51] <Kiongku> intellikey: i realised something in adept.. my image is considered as binary image
[01:51] <mulder> ok I am off now...thanks for your help guys.
[01:51] <intelikey> well
[01:51] <intelikey> mulder keep your chin up
[01:52] <intelikey> it gets easier.
[01:52] <Kiongku> intellikey: dpkg -i "filename"
[01:52] <mulder> Cheers Intel...if only this could have worked.
[01:52] <ultimate-`> intelikey : thxn it worked i removed the NIC but it should time out after 1-2 mins auto :/
[01:52] <ultimate-`> or ask me for options
[01:52] <Timmmm> Massive flaw in the (admittedly already pretty crap) linux sound system (i.e. alsa) - sometimes the order of my cards changes (seems to be random) so hw:2 and hw:1 swap. How the hell are you supposed to configure apps to *sometimes* access hw:1 but mostly hw:2 depending on ... something?
[01:53] <ultimate-`> the installer is messed up
[01:53] <geneo93> ok i'm off to sleep
[01:53] <mulder> how can I uninstall ubuntu from my dual boot with xp and try reinstalling a proper version of kubuntu?
[01:54] <Kiongku> geneo93: good night or morning :p
[01:54] <intelikey> ultimate-` the installer on the live CD    'messed up' ???     you jest.     surely you jest.     </sarcasm>
[01:55] <intelikey> mulder just install to the existing partition,  the installer will format it.
[01:55] <ultimate-`> intelikey : i meant to say that , i had a lan card w/ no connectivity it wasnt moving ahead
[01:55] <ultimate-`> i had to remove it
[01:55] <ultimate-`> as in , there is no timeout limit for the mirror scanning?
[01:55] <mulder> I guess I better install the latest version of kubuntu right?
[01:55] <intelikey> right.
[01:56] <mulder> is KDE 3.5.4 with it too?
[01:57] <intelikey> Kiongku ultimate-` mulder any quick quesrtions before i leave ?     i'm about 3 minutes from gone.
[01:57] <roman_> i cant play movies from internet in konqeur
[01:57] <Kiongku> intellikey: intellikey: i found the prob and tried to reconfigure.. on the line looking for splash image it says none found
[01:57] <Kiongku> *oops sorry
[01:57] <mulder> guess I am done...need fresh air
[01:57] <mulder> see you later Intel. Thanks for help
[01:58] <intelikey> gooday gents.
[01:58] <Kiongku> ok bye bye intelli
[01:58] <ultimate-`> 1 more question , is there a way i can make my usb2 harddrive read in it ? (its ntfs format)?
[01:59] <Kiongku> ntfs format? dunno but i know for hdd linux can only read for now and not write
[01:59] <roman_> yes
[02:00] <Kiongku> thats all.. dunno about usb2
[02:00] <djclue917> ultimate-`: http://zakame.spunge.org/blog/2006/08/11/ntfs-3g-love/
[02:00] <Kiongku> ok i trying to reboot to test usplash -_-
[02:00] <roman_> i have got w32codecs but cannot play movies form iternet sites
[02:01] <ultimate-`> mydrive already got data hehe
[02:01] <ultimate-`> checking
[02:01] <djclue917> roman_: which browser do you use?
[02:02] <roman_> i also intalled ati driver but i cant play games in fullscreen
[02:02] <ultimate-`> man if i can watch videos and xxs my drives i m moving to kubutun for good
[02:02] <roman_> konquer
[02:02] <djclue917> roman_: oh i see. you shouldn't have a problem since kaffeine would readily embed into konqueror to be able to play media files.
[02:03] <djclue917> roman_: just make sure that kaffeine is configured properly.
[02:03] <roman_> how
[02:03] <roman_> wat for konfiguration
[02:04] <djclue917> roman_: have you run kaffeine for the first time already?
[02:04] <roman_> yes
[02:04] <roman_> i cannot open wmv files
[02:05] <djclue917> after you've installed the w32codecs?
[02:05] <roman_> i think thats the problem
[02:05] <roman_> yes
[02:05] <djclue917> roman_: what do you mean you can't open wmv files? kaffeine can't play them?
[02:05] <roman_> yes
[02:06] <djclue917> roman_: what's the error message of kaffeine?
[02:06] <djclue917> roman_: something like "can't handle stream"?
[02:06] <roman_> wait a sec
[02:07] <djclue917> roman_: "There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins" is that the error?
[02:08] <roman_> wait iam downlaoding an wmv file
[02:08] <roman_> and then iam goint to open it
[02:08] <roman_> 1min
[02:10] <ultimate-`> anyirc client u ppl know for linux?
[02:10] <ultimate-`> something like mirc ?
[02:10] <roman_> in kaffeine its working fine
[02:10] <djclue917> roman_: so what's the problem then?
[02:11] <roman_> but not in konkuer
[02:11] <roman_> konqueror
[02:12] <Kiongku> gah
[02:12] <Kiongku> usplash still dunt want lol
[02:12] <galdarian> ultimate-`: Try opera 9
[02:12] <Kiongku> any usplash expert here :D?
[02:13] <roman_> if go to a site with a movie on it he sad gstreamer is not running
[02:13] <roman_> in konqueror
[02:13] <gnomefreak> !usplash
[02:13] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[02:13] <djclue917> roman_: kaffeine should readily embed in konqueror when a multimedia file is embedded in a web page
[02:13] <gnomefreak> Kiongku: ^^^ its a good hot to
[02:13] <gnomefreak> how to*
[02:13] <_kalm> hey does anyone here know where to find a file called "rc.local"? Please help i need this
[02:14] <roman_> how
[02:14] <roman_> embed
[02:14] <Kiongku> i already followed it anyway i'm not trying to edit usplash.. i'm trying to bring it back o0
[02:14] <djclue917> _kalm: /etc/rc.local
[02:14] <_kalm> thanks
[02:15] <djclue917> oops.
[02:15] <pierreth> hello
[02:16] <Xera`> i'm having problems upgrading KDE i've been told to add the repos to sources.list, and open adept and click fetch updates, then click preview, but nothing shows up in preview, so i checked what repos it was checking, and it isnt even showing the one i added..
[02:17] <Xera`> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper is the repos i tried
[02:18] <djclue917> Xera`: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[02:18] <roman_> in konqueror he wont play wmv files
[02:18] <djclue917> Xera`: please put the output in the pastebin.
[02:18] <Xera`> k, sec
[02:18] <roman_> in kaffeine he wil
[02:19] <Xera`> http://pastebin.se/3442
[02:19] <roman_> maybe something is wrong with streaming
[02:20] <djclue917> Xera`: you're still using the repo for KDE 3.5.3
[02:20] <Xera`> yes, because the one for 3.5.4 didnt work either
[02:20] <Xera`> so i tried that..
[02:20] <djclue917> Xera`: should be "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main" instead of "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper"
[02:21] <Xera`> ok :)
[02:21] <djclue917> roman_: does kaffeine show any error messages?
[02:21] <roman_> no
[02:21] <roman_> the movie not downloaded
[02:22] <roman_> but i want to stream it from the site
[02:22] <roman_> can send you a screenshot
[02:22] <djclue917> roman_: oh i see. may you give the link of the site?
[02:22] <roman_> about what i mean
[02:22] <roman_> ok
[02:22] <ultimate-`> how can i install wine?
[02:22] <Xera`> sudo aptitude install wine
[02:22] <Xera`> :)
[02:23] <Xera`> then winecfg
[02:23] <Xera`> btw, it still doesnt work -.-
[02:23] <djclue917> Xera`: what doesn't work?
[02:23] <roman_> http://www.tussenhaakjes.nl/forum/view/id/27486/d/pc_start_niet_op
[02:23] <Xera`> it doesnt even notice the repos
[02:24] <roman_> if i click on it the movie won't play
[02:24] <djclue917> roman_: oh, the site needs a username and password.
[02:24] <roman_> username=GameWizard
[02:24] <roman_> password=A7V133
[02:25] <djclue917> roman_: is that your account? you better change the password later. ;-)
[02:25] <Xera`> lol
[02:25] <roman_> yes
[02:25] <roman_> muhahah
[02:25] <Xera`> xD
[02:25] <Xera`> ;)
[02:25] <roman_> i don't care
[02:26] <Xera`> :p
[02:27] <djclue917> roman_: haha. i forgot that I've installed the mplayer plugin. the movie loads fine in mplayer. Sorry but I can't confirm your problem.
[02:28] <ultimate-`> whats the default pass for root?
[02:28] <ultimate-`> :/
[02:28] <roman_> o so it will not work with xine
[02:28] <ultimate-`> it never asked me
[02:28] <djclue917> roman_: as far as I can remember, the last time I've played a movie in konqueror via kaffeine, everything went well.
[02:28] <ultimate-`> during the install
[02:28] <roman_> then i think i know wat the problem is
[02:28] <djclue917> ultimate-`: there's no default password for root
[02:28] <djclue917> ultimate-`: you could change it by "sudo passwd root"
[02:29] <ultimate-`> worked :D
[02:29] <ultimate-`> how can i install wine :/
[02:29] <Xera`> sudo aptitude install wine
[02:29] <Xera`> then when that is finished
[02:29] <Xera`> winecfg
[02:29] <djclue917> ultimate-`: you could install wine via "sudo apt-get install wine" if you don't want to use aptitude. ;-)
[02:29] <ultimate-`> winecfg is notworking
[02:30] <ultimate-`> i did this => sudo aptitude install wine
[02:30] <roman_> thanx
[02:31] <ultimate-`> it says
[02:31] <ultimate-`> package wine is not aviable
[02:32] <roman_> if i copy the url in kaffeiene its working
[02:32] <djclue917> ultimate-`: I think you haven't enabled the universe repo
[02:32] <ultimate-`> how can i do that
[02:32] <djclue917> roman_: so that's might be a konqueror configuration issue.
[02:33] <ulti-kbuntu> :)
[02:33] <Xera`> ultimate-`: do sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:33] <Xera`> then remove the # from all the lines that start with deb or deb-src
[02:33] <ulti-kbuntu> how can i enable the universe
[02:33] <ultimate-`> heh i coudlnt
[02:34] <ultimate-`> get any msgs on the unbuntu cleint
[02:34] <ultimate-`> its like only i m talking lo
[02:34] <ultimate-`> l
[02:34] <roman_> yes i think so
[02:36] <ultimate-`> sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:37] <ultimate-2> ok i removed the # from the deb lines what should i do next
[02:38] <Xera`> then do sudo aptitude update
[02:38] <Xera`> after saving the file :P
[02:39] <paran> i am thinking about installing the kde 3.5.4 packages. is there some reason why they are in a separate repository? couldn't they be put in dapper-backports for example?
[02:39] <roman_> now the next problem
[02:39] <roman_> the new ati driver is not working fine
[02:39] <ultimate-2> its connecting to some sites and downloading random stuff
[02:39] <ultimate-2> lol
[02:39] <roman_> i cant play games in fullscreen
[02:41] <Xera`> ultimate-2: yes
[02:41] <Xera`> it's not random stuff
[02:41] <Xera`> ;)
[02:41] <Xera`> just let it run
[02:41] <Xera`> then after do sudo aptitude install wine; wine cfg
[02:41] <ultimate-2> hehe ok
[02:41] <ultimate-2> its stucked on 99% on a site
[02:41] <ultimate-2> ok working again
[02:41] <Xera`> just leave it xD
[02:42] <ultimate-2> thnx :D
[02:42] <Xera`> :)
[02:42] <ultimate-2> i heard u can run .exe w/ wine so i wanted to check it out lol
[02:42] <Xera`> yes u can
[02:42] <Xera`> :P
[02:43] <Xera`> not all of them
[02:43] <Xera`> but most programs can be run under wine
[02:43] <ultimate-2> thats cool
[02:43] <Xera`> mm hm :)
[02:43] <paran> Riddell: the 3.5.4 packages are signed by your key, so you probably have the answer to my previous question :)
[02:44] <Riddell> paran: -backports is not functional
[02:45] <hitomi> hi :)
[02:45] <hitomi> i have a question :)
[02:45] <Chuck> say it
[02:46] <hitomi> I don't know if ubuntu is safety like people say but when I "port scan" in hacker watch I have all my port closed but reached
[02:46] <hitomi> is this safety ?
[02:46] <Chuck> its ok, when they are closed.
[02:47] <hitomi> but reachabled
[02:47] <Chuck> Ubuntu and Linux itself have an internal firewall.
[02:47] <hitomi> closed but reachable doesn't mean secured :(
[02:47] <Chuck> its safety, you can trust:)
[02:47] <ultimate-2> nice working :D
[02:47] <ultimate-2> Xera : is there a way i can read my ntfs files from my external harddrive which is usb2
[02:47] <Chuck> oh that you mean.
[02:47] <hitomi> thanks
[02:47] <hitomi> I wish it's safe :)
[02:47] <Chuck> you can download a frontend for this firewall.
[02:48] <hitomi> what does that mean frontend ?
[02:48] <hitomi> a tool to configure firewall ?
[02:48] <v3ctor>    graphical tool used to manipulate firewall
[02:49] <hitomi> to xera : you must define what is your usb device by typing "sudo fdisk -l"
[02:49] <Jucato> frontend: something that you see in front of you, that hides what a back-end is doing O_o
[02:49] <Chuck> its an GUI, graphical user interface
[02:49] <hitomi> oh ok
[02:49] <hitomi> like lokkit :)
[02:49] <Chuck> not a konsole based programm like apt
[02:50] <Jucato> (methinks not all frontends are graphical...)
[02:50] <hitomi> to xera : after that you must change your /etc/fstab with gedit :)
[02:50] <hitomi> which prog I must use ?
[02:51] <kraut> moin
[02:51] <Chuck> moin
[02:51] <paran> Riddell: ok. whats wrong with it? I don't find very much about -backports on the web/wiki/mailinglists :)
[02:51] <djclue917> Chuck: APT is a front-end for DPKG, just like Adept, Synaptic, and Aptitude are front-ends for APT.
[02:52] <Jucato> Ubuntu backports are down/inactive/unavailable..
[02:52] <Riddell> paran: there's no support for backports in our archive tools
[02:52] <hitomi> I will try it after finishing my music download , thanks :)
[02:53] <paran> Riddell: i see
[02:53] <ultimate-2> is there a way i can read my  usb2 harddrive which is ntfs and has data on it?
[02:53] <hitomi> lol
[02:53] <Chuck> k:)
[02:53] <hitomi> just read the "system documentation" it's really easy :)
[02:53] <hitomi>  you must define what is your usb device by typing "sudo fdisk -l"
[02:54] <hitomi>  after that you must change your /etc/fstab with gedit :)
[02:55] <Jucato> Riddell: Hi! Just want to ask if there will be any updates for Kubuntu/KDE soon, regarding the KDE-HAL-media:/ bug?
[02:56] <hitomi> wish that God knows :D
[02:56] <Chuck> God is dead, I thought.
[02:57] <Jucato> well, according to Nietzsche (not sure about the spelling)
[02:57] <hitomi> science can't explain that yet , gotta wait :D
[02:58] <Riddell> Jucato: nothing planned, although I will look at that issue after feature freeze
[02:58] <larson9999> what kde hal media bug?  seems to work good here
[02:58] <Jucato> Riddell: ok. thanks! :-D
[02:58] <hitomi> I just want to notice you about a prob with gaim (all version) :
[02:59] <hitomi> sometimes gaim can't receive IM from your friend :(
[02:59] <hitomi> I lost my love because of it :((
[02:59] <Jucato> larson9999: I'm not sure if I'm the only one experiencing it. Partitions that aren't mounted during startup don't appear in "media:/". If you try to mount them later (after you're logged in), they still won't appear in media:/ but can be accessed through ?media/<mount_point>.
[03:00] <hitomi> I have the same prob with mount
[03:00] <hitomi> I have to do "sudo mount -a" at start up :(
[03:00] <Jucato> oh ok, so there's one confirmation that I'm not a lunatic (yet). :-D
[03:02] <hitomi> I've searched in the forum a few day and a lot of people have this prob but ...... no solution yet :(
[03:02] <Jucato> well, I'm afraid that there ain't any solution coming soon..
[03:02] <larson9999> Jucato: maybe something is wrong here too.  i'll check.  i've never really learned the ins and outs of the automounter thingie.  i'm just glad if my stuff mounts at all.  but i do know that to get my usb stuff to mount sometimes i have unplug the usb cable and plug it back in
[03:02] <Jucato> other than either 1)downgrade to KDE 3.5.3 or 2) remove HAL :-D
[03:03] <hitomi> try to install usbmount
[03:03] <Jucato> I wish intelikely was around...
[03:04] <hitomi> have anyone try autofs ?
[03:04] <hitomi> kernel-based automounter for Linux
[03:04] <hitomi> Autofs controls the operation of the automount daemons. The
[03:04] <hitomi> automount daemons automatically mount filesystems when they
[03:04] <hitomi> are used and unmount them after a period of inactivity. This
[03:04] <hitomi> is done based on a set of pre-configured maps.
[03:04] <hitomi> The kernel automounter implements an almost complete SunOS
[03:04] <hitomi> style automounter under Linux. Automounter version 4
[03:04] <hitomi> (autofs4) has to be enabled when compiling the kernel.
[03:04] <hitomi> Debian packaged kernels have it enabled.
[03:04] <larson9999> things are great these days.  i just bought a new computer that was just a tiny bit out.  great features and only $350.  time was that's have been $2,500-$3,000.
[03:05] <larson9999> s/out/old/
[03:05] <hitomi> 350 $ :o
[03:05] <hitomi> lol
[03:05] <Jucato> I hope somebody can help me with my system notification problem: from time to time, my system stalls for 1-2 seconds everytime it tries to play a system notification (sound). But it doesn't happen always, but it does happen quite frequently...
[03:06] <larson9999> Jucato: the intermittent problem.  we all love to solve those.
[03:06] <Jucato> intermittent problem? please elaborate... @_@
[03:07] <hitomi> I elaborate but i have no idea
[03:07] <Jucato> lol
[03:08] <larson9999> there should be a dilbert about tintermittent problems
[03:09] <Jucato> oh.. so that's what it means...
[03:09] <Ein_vir_Stein> masmix
[03:10] <Jucato> and here I was thinking it was some Linux bug .... @_@
[03:10] <glj12> hey
[03:11] <glj12> video and audio should work automatically, right?
[03:11] <hitomi> we are not animaux so stop saying hey
[03:11] <hitomi> no
[03:11] <hitomi> it'll not work automatically
[03:11] <Jucato> not if they're MP3s or AVIs
[03:11] <glj12> alright
[03:11] <hitomi> you have to install codecs
[03:11] <glj12> oh, alright
[03:12] <Jucato> if they're OGGs or OGMs, then they're good to go (I think...)
[03:12] <larson9999> Jucato: you mean i spelled it correctly?
[03:12] <hitomi> just use automatix and it resolve the prob :)
[03:12] <Jucato> larson9999: not the second one (tintermittent...)
[03:13] <larson9999> Jucato: yeah, in IT one of the first steps to debugging and issue is duplicating the problem.  that's hard to do with intermittant problems.  kinda like how your car never makes the sounds while the mechanic is around
[03:13] <Jucato> ugh! a bug that couldn't be duplicated...
[03:13] <glj12> isnt kubuntu supposed to play sounds? I mean...
[03:14] <glj12> i guess i need to do something to get audio working, period
[03:14] <hitomi> yes it's supposed to play sound :)
[03:14] <Jucato> glj12: yep, system sounds mostly, (they're in OGG format)
[03:14] <glj12> ok, well, i guess my audio is messed
[03:14] <hitomi> but it depend on which type of sound :)
[03:14] <hitomi> what is your file type  ?
[03:14] <glj12> how do i go about fixing my audio then
[03:14] <glj12> erm.... kubuntu doesnt play any sounds
[03:15] <glj12> mp3 is my type
[03:15] <glj12> and wma
[03:15] <hitomi> use automatix to install all sound codecs :)
[03:15] <glj12> ok
[03:15] <glj12> apt-get?
[03:15] <hitomi> no
[03:15] <hitomi> wait :)
[03:15] <glj12> well, i dont have automatix
[03:15] <Jucato> I wonder if ubotu knows..
[03:15] <Jucato> !automatix
[03:15] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:15] <Jucato> err...
[03:16] <Jucato> Automatix for Kubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203294
[03:16] <glj12> ok
[03:16] <glj12> cant i just use adept?
[03:16] <hitomi> yes
[03:16] <Jucato> sure
[03:16] <hitomi> I will give you the command :_
[03:16] <hitomi> :)
[03:16] <glj12> ok, thanks
[03:16] <Jucato> automatix is just the "easy way out"
[03:17] <glj12> heh
[03:17] <Jucato> Adept... commands... :-D
[03:17] <glj12> well, i dont know what else i am supposed to do to get any sort of audio/video working
[03:17] <hitomi> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[03:17] <hitomi> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[03:17] <hitomi> gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
[03:17] <hitomi> gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
[03:17] <hitomi> gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[03:17] <hitomi> install all of it :)
[03:17] <glj12> just in the console
[03:17] <Jucato> hitomi: why are you giving GNOME codecs?
[03:17] <hitomi> I don't use adept
[03:17] <hitomi> :D
[03:17] <hitomi> sorry
[03:17] <glj12> ?
[03:17] <hitomi> I'm gnome :D
[03:17] <Jucato>  @_@
[03:17] <glj12> im kde.
[03:17] <hitomi> it's not ok ?
[03:18] <hitomi> I think it's the same man :D
[03:18] <Jucato> of course it's ok
[03:18] <glj12> ok
[03:18] <hitomi> =))
[03:18] <Jucato> but Kubuntu uses only one codec
[03:18] <glj12> so i apply those lines in the console?
[03:18] <Jucato> libxine-extracodecs
[03:18] <hitomi> apt-get install ...
[03:18] <glj12> ok
[03:18] <Jucato> glj12: not yet
[03:18] <glj12> mmm... ok
[03:18] <Jucato> glj12: you need to add multiverse to your repositories first
[03:18] <hitomi> IE: apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[03:18] <Jucato> hitomi: ... multiverse...
[03:19] <larson9999> i've been a 'text' programming for years.  got my first gui project.  the question is qt or gtk?
[03:19] <glj12> apt-getinstall multiverse ?
[03:19] <glj12> erm
[03:19] <Jucato> nope
[03:19] <hitomi> it's not add ? :O
[03:19] <hitomi> :((
[03:19] <larson9999> wow my mind is numb.  programming=programmer.  people will thing english is my 3rd or 4th language instead of only.
[03:19] <Jucato> glj12: I'll try to walk you through the steps in Adept....
[03:20] <hitomi> he's yours :D
[03:20] <glj12> thanks dude
[03:20] <Jucato> larson9999: depends on which desktop you're trying to develop for, or which language you're most comfortable with, or if you're planning to release software commercially...
[03:20] <Jucato> glj12: open up Adept
[03:20] <glj12> k, im there
[03:21] <djclue917> larson9999: QT! :D
[03:21] <Jucato> in the Adept menu (first menu to the left), click on Manage Repositories
[03:21] <Jucato> lol! just take note that to release a commercial software using Qt, you would need to buy the license
[03:21] <glj12> im there
[03:22] <Jucato> glj12: now look for a line that resembles this "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe", where xx is for our local server (us, uk, gb, au, etc)
[03:23] <glj12> found it
[03:23] <Jucato> right-click on it, then choose Enable
[03:23] <glj12> ok
[03:23] <Jucato> then (we're not done yet. :-D)
[03:23] <glj12> already enabled
[03:23] <Jucato> click on the word "universe" so that it will become editable
[03:23] <glj12> i uncommented those lines yesterday
[03:24] <glj12> oh, ok
[03:24] <Jucato> then add (do not replace) the word "multiverse" to it
[03:24] <glj12> space afer it?
[03:24] <Jucato> yep
[03:24] <glj12> like, universe multiverse
[03:24] <glj12> k
[03:24] <glj12> done
[03:24] <Jucato> next, repeat the same steps for the lines with "dapper-security" and "dapper-upgrades"
[03:25] <glj12> there are two dapper-security universe
[03:25] <glj12> d it to both?
[03:25] <glj12> do*
[03:25] <Jucato> only the one starting with "deb", not with "deb-src"
[03:25] <glj12> oh, ok
[03:25] <glj12> woops
[03:26] <glj12> dont have a dapper-upgrades
[03:26] <glj12> dapper-updates the same
[03:26] <glj12> ?
[03:26] <Jucato> errr
[03:26] <Jucato> my mistake
[03:26] <Jucato> dapper-updates
[03:26] <glj12> its ok
[03:27] <glj12> it says main restricted
[03:27] <tk> howdy everyone
[03:27] <glj12> still ok?
[03:27] <Jucato> glj12: then add universe and multiverse to that line, making it "deb ----- main restricted universe multiverse"
[03:28] <Jucato> IF there are no separate lines for dapper-updates universe
[03:28] <glj12> oh, ok
[03:29] <glj12> done with that
[03:29] <Jucato> you might want to disable those lines with "deb-src", unless you want/need to download source code for packages. Disabling them will make fetching updates faster.
[03:29] <Jucato> your choice
[03:29] <glj12> ah, its alright
[03:29] <glj12> i'll leave well enough alone
[03:29] <Jucato> :-D
[03:29] <glj12> :)
[03:29] <Jucato> now click on Apply (at the bottom) then on Fetch Updates (at the top)
[03:30] <glj12> k
[03:30] <hitomi> bye all ;)
[03:30] <glj12> so many pretty blue lines. :P
[03:30] <hitomi> Good bless u ;)
[03:30] <Jucato> hitomi: before you go
[03:30] <glj12> bye hitomi
[03:30] <hitomi> yes ?
[03:30] <glj12> ok, done updating
[03:30] <Jucato> why are we teaching glj12 how to download the codecs?
[03:31] <glj12> i have no audio
[03:31] <glj12> or video of any kind
[03:31] <glj12> not even sounds from kubuntu
[03:31] <Jucato> oh
[03:31] <Jucato> hmm.... we need to make a test to really see if the codecs will solve it
[03:31] <hitomi> because he ask us
[03:31] <Jucato> ^_^
[03:31] <hitomi> and God tell me to help him :D
[03:31] <glj12> i just wanted sounds from kbuntu at least. >.<
[03:31] <glj12> kubuntu*
[03:32] <Jucato> glj12: try going to /usr/share/sounds and try playing any of the sounds there
[03:32] <hitomi> salut ;)
[03:32] <glj12> ok, h/o
[03:32] <hitomi> bye
[03:32] <Jucato> hitomi: here's to hoping it's not a deeper audio/video problem @_@
[03:33] <Jucato> glj12: I do hope that this is just a codec problem. coz if it's not... I'm practically clueless. :-(
[03:33] <Jucato> wb djclue917
[03:33] <glj12> lol
[03:33] <glj12> nothin
[03:33] <glj12> just says playlist finished
[03:33] <glj12> :(
[03:33] <Jucato> aww krap...
[03:33] <Jucato> hm...
[03:33] <glj12> it detects my sound integrated
[03:33] <djclue917> hello Jucato
[03:33] <Jucato> is this a very fresh installation of Kubuntu?
[03:33] <glj12> yes
[03:33] <glj12> just yesterday
[03:34] <glj12> i love it b/c it atomatically recognized my wifi
[03:34] <glj12> :)
[03:34] <Jucato> and nothing out of the ordinary happened during installation?
[03:34] <glj12> nopers
[03:34] <Jucato> hm... strange indeed...
[03:34] <LeeJunFan> and it's nothing simple like the PCM or master volume being muted or turned down all the way?
[03:34] <glj12> pcm was fairly low, just changed it now
[03:34] <glj12> h/o
[03:35] <glj12> nope
[03:35] <glj12> nothin
[03:35] <Jucato> hm...
[03:35] <VincentMX> hi
[03:35] <Jucato> check if Amarok is using the xine Engine. (Settings > Configure Amarok > Engine options)
[03:35] <Jucato> hi
[03:36] <newbie_1000> just curios, is there a way to grep or something through the apt database to see what I can install?
[03:36] <larson9999> Jucato: i'm not planning on making it particular to any desktop.  i don't use software that way.  i know lots of people do but i use kde, gnome or whatever app independent of the desktop i'm using.  and prefer to make stuff that doesn't depend on the desktop.  so if i used qt it wouldn't be the 'kde qt'  likewise with gtk and gnome.  it'll be gpl most likely.  and i'm purposely using a language i'm not comfortable with.
[03:36] <glj12> VIA 8237 is my audio integrated lappy sound
[03:36] <glj12> :
[03:36] <glj12> :)
[03:36] <VincentMX> im booting from the kubuntu livecd but i have no sound, and my screen isnt set to the right resolution, and i cant change that either
[03:37] <Jucato> glj12: lol. mine is VIA 8235 :-D
[03:37] <glj12> then it should be easy, right? :P
[03:37] <Jucato> glj12: no. it shouldn't even be an issue...
[03:37] <glj12> hmmm
[03:38] <glj12> what about at least getting video working? :P
[03:38] <glj12> i mean, i just want something to work
[03:38] <newbie_1000> do I have to restart after an apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:38] <glj12> probably newbie_1000
[03:38] <Jucato> newbie_1000: not unless a new kernel was installed
[03:38] <tk> newbie_1000: you only ever have to restart after a kernel update
[03:38] <glj12> oh, well, yeah
[03:38] <glj12> i shouldnt make assumptions
[03:38] <newbie_1000> ok.
[03:38] <Jucato> glj12: I think there are sample videos in /usr/share/example-content ??
[03:38] <tk> glj12, probably isnt really an assumption its more like "maybe..." :P
[03:39] <LeeJunFan> newbie_1000: you may have to log out/in to get your desktop updates [kde]  to take effect though.
[03:39] <glj12> tk: :P
[03:39] <newbie_1000> thanks.
[03:39] <glj12> ok, im lookin Jucato
[03:39] <newbie_1000> examples are simlinked into the home directory.
[03:39] <Jucato> newbie_1000: oh yeah, thanks for reminding me :-D
[03:39] <Jucato> I removed it so I didn't remember
[03:39] <newbie_1000> np
[03:40] <glj12> hmmm....
[03:40] <glj12> what is the extension
[03:40] <glj12> for a vdeo file there
[03:40] <Jucato> hmm.. ogg or ogm?
[03:40] <Jucato> if you're viewing the files in Konqueror, pretty thumbnails should tell you which one
[03:40] <newbie_1000> the one called experience-ubuntu.ogg is a video, the sax one is audio.
[03:40] <glj12> yay! video works
[03:41] <glj12> yeah
[03:41] <glj12> but it shows an x through the audio
[03:41] <Jucato> glj12: does the video have sound?
[03:41] <glj12> nope
[03:41] <newbie_1000> ya sure?
[03:41] <glj12> there's an x through the audio thing
[03:41] <Jucato> ok... some one with more hardware know-how please take over... I'm stumped... :-(
[03:41] <glj12> well, wait
[03:42] <glj12> you can help me with my avi's
[03:42] <Jucato> glj12: yep, install the package called "libxine-extracodecs"
[03:42] <glj12> adpet?
[03:42] <Jucato> it will also allow you to play MP3s
[03:42] <newbie_1000> just watching the experience ubuntu.ogg video. there is sound.
[03:42] <glj12> hmmm
[03:42] <glj12> not for me. :(
[03:42] <Jucato> glj12: anywhere, now that you have the right repositories :-D
[03:42] <glj12> but im on a lappy, but i mean... :/
[03:43] <glj12> yay! :)
[03:43] <newbie_1000> what else does the extre codecs libary install besides MP3?
[03:43] <zvi> did anybody experienced Firefox crash in Kubuntu, just sudden crash, for example, clicking on some link, and boom, FF dissapears?
[03:43] <glj12> it installs mp3 and avi?
[03:43] <glj12> sweet
[03:44] <glj12> i thought it was only videos
[03:44] <glj12> video*
[03:44] <newbie_1000> What about DVD? what's the library for that?
[03:44] <Jucato> larson9999: I'm not really sure about this, but if you're developing using Qt or GTK, you will still be using KDE or GNOME libraries. the good thing is that you won't be reinventing the wheel for some libraries (unless you want to)
[03:44] <Jucato> newbie_1000: I think that's covered by libxine-extracodecs,too. Encrypted DVD's are a different matter, though
[03:45] <glj12> what audio player should i use?
[03:45] <Jucato> wb djclue917 (again.. :-D )
[03:45] <Jucato> glj12: Amarok :-D
[03:45] <glj12> ok
[03:45] <newbie_1000> jacot: Oh, well I was just curiose. Got no DVD player on this machine.
[03:45] <glj12> hmmm... nothin still
[03:45] <glj12> bah
[03:45] <djclue917> Jucato: seems like KDE 3.5.4 has really a problem with HAL.
[03:45] <glj12> arg, my taskbar wont unhide itself
[03:45] <glj12> :(
[03:45] <Jucato> djclue917: ah shucks...
[03:46] <larson9999> Jucato: hmmm, i thought you could use either and not use the gnome or kde libraries.  just would have more work :)
[03:46] <newbie_1000> do I add the kubuntu.org repo to get new KDE?
[03:46] <djclue917> newbie_1000: yup
[03:46] <glj12> but seriously
[03:46] <glj12> its not unhiding itself, what the heck?
[03:47] <newbie_1000> gli12: you have to go to the panel control panel, click hiding, and then there's a lot of hiding options.
[03:47] <Jucato> larson9999: like I said, I'm not really sure. I'll cross the bridge when I get there. I'm studying, too
[03:47] <glj12> i mean,  cant get to it
[03:47] <Jucato> lol
[03:47] <glj12> im hovering my mouse over it
[03:47] <newbie_1000> how so?
[03:47] <Jucato> glj12: press alt+F2
[03:47] <glj12> and it wont appear like it normally does
[03:47] <Jucato> then enter "systemsettings"
[03:47] <glj12> ok
[03:47] <glj12> sweet
[03:47] <glj12> thanks
[03:47] <Jucato> ^_^
[03:48] <glj12> anyway...
[03:48] <glj12> let me try playing an avi
[03:48] <glj12> since we know that mp3's wont play still
[03:48] <newbie_1000> It's easier to right click the pane and click Configure Panel.
[03:48] <glj12> or anything audio
[03:48] <Jucato> newbie_1000: not if the panel isn't visible
[03:48] <newbie_1000> good point.
[03:49] <glj12> yay! video works
[03:49] <glj12> but no sound yet
[03:49] <tk> well mp3s wont play by default in kubuntu
[03:49] <glj12> i installed the codec
[03:49] <glj12> and kubuntu doesnt play any sounds, system sounds)
[03:49] <Jucato> I think this is really a deeper audio problem
[03:50] <glj12> ogg's dont play sound, etc
[03:50] <Jucato> something to do with hardware and/or ALSA/aRts
[03:50] <glj12> wow, my laptop blows
[03:50] <glj12> it lags on video
[03:50] <glj12> ts a new lappy, but it was the cheapest one at best buy
[03:50] <glj12> $399. :P
[03:51] <newbie_1000> what's the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[03:51] <djclue917> glj12: have you unmuted the sound?
[03:51] <newbie_1000> the act the same to me.
[03:51] <glj12> yes i have...
[03:51] <glj12> and turned everything up
[03:51] <glj12> this is a laptop, if that makes any dif
[03:52] <Jucato> well, I don't think it should...
[03:52] <glj12> k
[03:52] <glj12> oh, maybe you can help me with a smaller problem in the mean time
[03:52] <Jucato> ??
[03:53] <glj12> how can i get the wireless assistant to automatically connect to a certain essid on startup?
[03:53] <glj12> no biggy if you dont know off hand
[03:53] <Jucato> err... ok, something I can't help you with... hopefully someone else here knows :-D
[03:53] <glj12> ah, dont worry about it
[03:53] <glj12> just takes time to do it each time on startup. :)
[03:53] <glj12> but any ideas about the audio?
[03:54] <Jucato> Things I know nothing about in Linux: hardware (including audio) setup, Wireless and printers
[03:54] <glj12> and my lapy is laggy in kubuntu b/c of only 256mb of ram, right?
[03:54] <Jucato> glj12: probably.
[03:54] <glj12> aight, do you know how to tone down affects in kdm?
[03:55] <glj12> or kde, w/e
[03:55] <Jucato> hmm... let me see...
[03:55] <Jucato> you can either do them one by one or...
[03:56] <Jucato> you can install a program called "kpersonalizer" which is like a wizard that sets up the effects you want
[03:56] <glj12> cool, ok
[03:56] <glj12> adept is my friend?
[03:56] <Jucato> yep.
[03:56] <Jucato> apt-get too, once you learn how to use it
[03:57] <glj12> oh, alright
[03:57] <glj12> sweet
[04:03] <glj12> ooo... i just saw my first crash
[04:03] <Jucato>  @_@
[04:03] <Jucato> what crashed?
[04:03] <glj12> idk, gave me that timebomb thng
[04:03] <glj12> thing*
[04:03] <xst> I just upgraded to kde 3.5.4 but now it seems that my the font in gtk apps is no longer antialised. Or at least, is antialised poorly. What to do?
[04:03] <Jucato> what were you doing/running when it crashed?
[04:03] <glj12> what you had said
[04:03] <glj12> kpersonalizer
[04:04] <glj12> after i clicked finished, it gave that resonse
[04:04] <Jucato> xst: try checking the settings in System Settings > Appearance > GTK Style and Fonts
[04:04] <Jucato> hmm... strange... very strange...
[04:04] <glj12> do you thnik it worked?
[04:04] <larson9999> i was crashing about once a day(well, locking up)  finally figured out my mobo was crapping out
[04:05] <larson9999> i thought i had gremlins
[04:05] <Jucato> glj12: only one way to find out. test it
[04:05] <glj12> new latop bought less thana week ago?
[04:05] <Jucato> :-D
[04:05] <glj12> :P
[04:05] <glj12> so, no one can help me with audio? :(
[04:06] <xst> Jucato: That helped. Thanks
[04:06] <Jucato> glj12: hmm... you can also try posting your questions over at http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/forums
[04:07] <Jucato> no problem
[04:07] <glj12> mmm
[04:07] <glj12> alright, i guess  got no choice. :)
[04:07] <Jucato> glj12: you could also wait until more people come in :-D
[04:08] <glj12> heh, i like that one! :)
[04:08] <glj12> can you forward my queston to anyone
[04:08] <Jucato> lol
[04:09] <glj12> guess not. ^_^
[04:11] <Jucato> can anyone reproduce this crash? In System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts options > click on Command Shortcuts tab. Mine crashes when  I click on that...
[04:15] <zvi> did anybody experienc Firefox crash in Kubuntu  dapper? just sudden crash, for example, clicking on some link, and boom, FF dissapears?
[04:16] <newbie_1000> zvi: occasionally I close a window, just some random window, and my session crashes and I'm back at the login.
[04:18] <newbie_1000> zvi: what version of FF are you running?
[04:19] <ultimate-`> where can i get the xvid plugin ?
[04:19] <newbie_1000> no idea. search for it in Adept maybe.
[04:19] <zvi> newbie_1000: I had 1.5.0.4
[04:20] <Jucato> AFAIK, divx/xvid should be covered by libxine-extracodecs
[04:20] <zvi> then I upgraded to 1.5.0.5, still the same
[04:20] <zvi> I have upgraded my KDE to 3.5.4  did not happen yet
[04:21] <ultimate-`> Jucato how to install libxine-extracodecs ? sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs not working
[04:22] <djclue917> ultimate-`: you need to enable the multiverse repo
[04:22] <ultimate-`> yeap
[04:22] <ultimate-`> its enabled thats how i installed wine
[04:22] <glj12> anyone here good with audio problems?
[04:25] <ultimate-`> i cant find libxine-extracodecs
[04:25] <ultimate-`> in adept
[04:26] <ultimate-`> :/
[04:29] <ultimate-`> h
[04:29] <ultimate-`> i
[04:29] <ultimate-`> what should i do :/
[04:30] <edu> testando
[04:34] <djclue917> ultimate-`: enable the multiverse repositoru
[04:34] <djclue917> *repository
[04:34] <ultimate-`> djclue917 i did
[04:34] <ultimate-`> i installed wine like that
[04:34] <djclue917> ultimate-`: then do an apt-get update
[04:34] <ultimate-`> um k
[04:35] <ultimate-`> it says
[04:35] <ultimate-`> file is locked :/
[04:35] <ultimate-`> how do i enable what ur sayin
[04:35] <waspius> hello..i have 2 questions..first i have installed guarddog but i have some problems so if someone can help...and second how can i update kopete?
[04:35] <ultimate-`> working now
[04:38] <tk> ultimate-` you get that error if you have adept or another application that updates packages/installs packages open
[04:39] <ultimate-`> ok
[04:40] <ultimate-`> i m rebooting lol
[04:40] <ultimate-`> i m rebooting lol
[04:40] <tk> ultimate-`: did you update your kernel? if not, rebooting isnt needed
[04:41] <Jucato> ultimate-`: libxine-extracodecs is in multiverse. (wine is in the universe repositories)
[04:41] <ultimate-`> how to enable multiverse
[04:41] <ultimate-`> pls 2 tell
[04:41] <Hawkwind> !multiverse > ultimate-`
[04:41] <Jucato> ooh Hawkwind's here :-D
[04:42] <tk> does that mean we get another free show? :D
[04:43] <Hawkwind> tk: If you don't........Heh, just kidding :P
[04:43] <Hawkwind> tk: Actually.....I'd make everyone pay so I can get some royalties from ticket sales
[04:43] <tk> lol
[04:44] <Jucato> lol
[04:46] <ultimate-`> ok i read it
[04:46] <ultimate-`> so how do i enable multiverse?
[04:47] <ultimate-`> apt is some what a tool to get packages am i right?
[04:47] <ultimate-`> and i need the multiverse package list first apt can recognize it?
[04:47] <ultimate-`> and for that i need to enable multiverse and update the list ?
[04:47] <ultimate-`> so how do you enable multiverse and update its list
[04:48] <djclue917> ultimate-`: are you comfortable with commands?
[04:48] <ultimate-`> yea sure
[04:48] <djclue917> ultimate-`: ok.
[04:48] <ultimate-`> but i dont know much lol
[04:48] <Jucato> ultimate-`: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:48] <djclue917> ultimate-`: it' just ok.
[04:48] <Jucato> there's a guide there on how to add multiverse
[04:48] <Jucato> it's Adept stuff (GUI).
[04:48] <waspius> what is the package you need for config?
[04:49] <ultimate-`> i tried to update adept's list .. but it wont show libxine-extracodecs because i dont have multiverse enabled i guess
[04:49] <ultimate-`> reading
[04:50] <djclue917> ultimate-`: actually, you'll just have to append "multiverse" in "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe "
[04:53] <waspius> does anyone know the package for configuring????
[04:53] <djclue917> ultimate-`: sudo sed -i -e 's/archive.ubuntu.com\/ubuntu dapper universe/archive.ubuntu.com\/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse/' /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:53] <djclue917> waspius: configuring what?
[04:53] <pierreth> hello
[04:54] <pierreth> how can i get a full copy of Kontact?
[04:54] <abattoir> pierreth: full copy? :P
[04:54] <djclue917> pierreth: what do you mean? Kontact is already installed by default.
[04:54] <abattoir> pierreth: which modules are you looking for?
[04:54] <waspius> packages
[04:54] <ultimate-`> djclue917 u want me to paste that in konsole ?
[04:54] <pierreth> abattoir: HELLO
[04:54] <abattoir> pierreth: hi :)
[04:55] <djclue917> ultimate-`: yes. ;-) if you haven't added the multiverse repo yet.
[04:55] <pierreth> it is because i want to have it in xfce :-)
[04:55] <djclue917> ultimate-`: that should do the trick...
[04:55] <waspius> djclue917: packages..source
[04:55] <pierreth> mine is like old
[04:55] <abattoir> pierreth: it should have most modules... which ones are you looking for?
[04:56] <Gh0st75> just home on lunch break, anyone have any ideas on how to re-enable sound in kubuntu if installing java disabled it?
[04:56] <pierreth> my notes seems old
[04:56] <djclue917> ultimate-`: if you're curious on what it does, it simply searches for "archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe" in /etc/apt/sources.list and replaces that line with "archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse"
[04:56] <Gh0st75> if no ideas i'll just try reinstalling after work
[04:56] <pierreth> i don't have the news
[04:56] <ultimate-`> djclue917 i did it and i fetch the updates and extracodes is now on the list
[04:56] <ultimate-`> and its downloading now
[04:56] <abattoir> pierreth: see if you have akregator installed
[04:56] <ultimate-`> its also downloading another package which it requires
[04:57] <djclue917> ultimate-`: sed is really a handy tool. ;-)
[04:57] <tk> hehe
[04:57] <djclue917> ultimate-`: that's good.
[04:57] <tk> sed and awk :P
[04:57] <pierreth> i have the lib akregator
[04:57] <djclue917> tk: yeah. they are indeed very useful. :)
[04:57] <VincentMX> hi
[04:57] <ultimate-`> djclue917 : i enabeld universe from sed
[04:57] <ultimate-`> xera helped me
[04:57] <tk> i actually saw someone explain the s/blah/bleh as an Internet acronym that meant sorry/replacethis/withthat
[04:58] <ultimate-`> :o
[04:58] <VincentMX> hi
[04:58] <Jucato> the metapackage "kdepim" will install everything related to Kontact
[04:58] <djclue917> tk: is that explanation true?? haha
[04:58] <tk> djclue917: no, its a regex replace not an acronym :P
[04:59] <djclue917> tk: yeah i know. i just thought that the 's
[04:59] <Gh0st75> nobody?
[04:59] <VincentMX> im booting from the livecd, but i cant hear any sound
[04:59] <v3ctor> s = search for
[04:59] <djclue917> tk: that the 's' was like 'sorry' or something.. hehe
[04:59] <pierreth> impossible to find kdepim for me :-(
[04:59] <tk> nah, this person said it was for sorry... but its for search like v3ctor said :P
[05:00] <pierreth> ok, i found it now :-)
[05:00] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Good morning.  Been a couple of days since we seen ya :)
[05:00] <djclue917> s = sorry. haha. i wonder if that person was joking or was really serious...
[05:01] <tk> djclue917: they may have dumbed it down for the person that asked what it mean... but I didnt have the gaul to ask
[05:01] <abattoir> Hawkwind: good morning :). indeed, life finally caught up :P... have i lost my place in the 'charts' ? ;)
[05:01] <pierreth> i am installing!
[05:02] <ubuntu> http://www.tiscali.it
[05:02] <djclue917> tk: well, maybe. sometimes we really have to do analogies or stuff like that to explain things more easily..
[05:02] <Hawkwind> abattoir: A bit.  You were so far ahead though that you have only fallen to 2nd in most of them
[05:02] <pierreth> some packages are missing
[05:03] <maltaethiron> hey, can anyone help me make my soundcard work
[05:03] <abattoir> Hawkwind: hehe... it doesnt matter at all, its just fun to look at, that's all... but...
[05:03] <ultimate-`> still get error on this xvid video file :/
[05:03] <ultimate-`> are there any other video plugins
[05:03] <Gh0st75> at least you're getting errors, my sound just doesn't work
[05:03] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Hah yeah true.  It's just kewl to see who is around a lot and helps others quite often
[05:03] <pierreth> i guess i can't have it on ppc
[05:03] <maltaethiron> !mixer
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mixer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <tk> and who puts on a good show, who draws the biggest crowds, and gets the most tips too right? oh wait... wrong job :P
[05:04] <pierreth> ok thank you anyway
[05:04] <pierreth> abattoir: bye
[05:05] <abattoir> pierreth: worked?
[05:05] <abattoir> or rather work?
[05:05] <abattoir> *workss
[05:05] <pierreth> no, missing packages
[05:05] <abattoir> ewww
[05:05] <maltaethiron> hey, how do i go about getting synaptic?
[05:05] <pierreth> i always miss something on ppc
[05:05] <abattoir> pierreth: which ones are missing? you have all the repos enabled right?
[05:05] <abattoir> maltaethiron: 'sudo apt-get install synaptic'
[05:06] <pierreth> repos?
[05:06] <maltaethiron> i did that
[05:06] <maltaethiron> and it didnt work
[05:06] <abattoir> pierreth: repositories
[05:06] <abattoir> maltaethiron: you have main enabled?
[05:06] <maltaethiron> hold on, ill show you the messege
[05:06] <pierreth> i have libcupsys2-dev_1.2.1-0ubuntu2_powerpc.deb
[05:06] <pierreth> libtiffxx0c2_3.7.4-1ubuntu3.1_powerpc.deb
[05:06] <maltaethiron> paul@paul-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install synaptic
[05:07] <maltaethiron> Reading package lists... Done
[05:07] <maltaethiron> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:07] <maltaethiron> Package synaptic is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:07] <maltaethiron> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:07] <maltaethiron> is only available from another source
[05:07] <maltaethiron> E: Package synaptic has no installation candidate
[05:07] <pierreth> ibtiffxx0c2_3.7.4-1ubuntu3.1_powerpc.deb
[05:07] <pierreth> missing!
[05:07] <abattoir> maltaethiron: please dont paste it here
[05:07] <abattoir> maltaethiron: use pastebin
[05:07] <ultimate-`> i`m getting vlc for
[05:07] <abattoir> !pastebin
[05:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:07] <ultimate-`> ubuntu
[05:07] <maltaethiron> oh sorry, forgot about pastebin
[05:07] <abattoir> maltaethiron: make sure you have main enabled
[05:07] <maltaethiron> how do i enable main?
[05:08] <abattoir> maltaethiron: the repository main, in /etc/apt/sources.list(or through adept), that is
[05:08] <pierreth> abattoir: can i do something?
[05:08] <abattoir> pierreth: could you pastebin your error?
[05:08] <pierreth> abattoir: sure
[05:08] <abattoir> !main > maltaethiron
[05:09] <abattoir> maltaethiron: look at the info, that should help you :)
[05:09] <maltaethiron> thanks
[05:09] <abattoir> !source-o-matic
[05:09] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:09] <abattoir> maltaethiron: ^^^^ that might also be useful :)
[05:09] <maltaethiron> oh cool
[05:09] <maltaethiron> thanks
[05:10] <newbie_1000> can anyone else connect to the us ubuntu repositories? the seem to be down.
[05:10] <pierreth> abattoir: ok, done
[05:11] <Hawkwind> pierreth: You need to give us the resulting pastebin URL
[05:11] <abattoir> newbie_1000: pinging it works for me... dont know how reliable that is though
[05:11] <pierreth> sorry http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20667
[05:12] <newbie_1000> ping works. when I try openning the url in a web browser, it says that it can connect but got nothing. It doesn't have an index.html page but it shows me the contents of the folder when it works.
[05:12] <abattoir> pierreth: 404, the file cant be found
[05:12] <abattoir> pierreth: try another mirror, see if that works
[05:12] <Hawkwind> I'm still getting 404 errors on Seveas's mirror
[05:12] <Hawkwind> Failed to fetch http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/dapper-seveas/all/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[05:12] <pierreth> abattoir: how can i change it?
[05:12] <newbie_1000> abattoir: just go to the homepage of the pasteboard. there's a list of recent posts.
[05:13] <abattoir> pierreth: did you modify the file manually?
[05:13] <pierreth> i am using a graphical installer
[05:13] <abattoir> pierreth: i see a 'de' before the link... i wonder if that should read 'deb' instead
[05:13] <newbie_1000> Hawkwind: I can't connect to US repositories.
[05:14] <Hawkwind> newbie_1000: So change the us. part to something else
[05:14] <pierreth> abattoir: what can i do?
[05:14] <newbie_1000> Hawwind: part?
[05:14] <newbie_1000> what if I get french programs from the canadian server?
[05:14] <Hawkwind> newbie_1000: Open up your /etc/apt/sources.list file and you'll see us.archive.ubuntu.com and change the us. part to another mirror.  I personally use se.
[05:14] <abattoir> pierreth: could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[05:15] <pierreth> abattoir: ok
[05:15] <Hawkwind> newbie_1000: The mirrors all contain the same thing.  Doesn't matter where in the world they come from
[05:15] <newbie_1000> ok
[05:15] <maltaethiron> Hawkwind: what mirror is se?
[05:15] <abattoir> maltaethiron: sweden
[05:15] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Sweden
[05:15] <newbie_1000> its working now, anyway. just had to wait. :$
[05:16] <lied> hi guys, i have got a ati 9600, im installing xorg-driver-fglrx. do i need anything else?
[05:17] <pierreth> abattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20668
[05:17] <abattoir> pierreth: what is 'de' in french? :P
[05:18] <pierreth> abattoir: yes, it means 'of'
[05:18] <pierreth> abattoir: or 'from'
[05:18] <abattoir> pierreth: so it roughly says error retrieving that file... right?
[05:19] <Hawkwind> pierreth: Looks like you need to uncomment some of those sources.  You only have 2 sources active
[05:20] <pierreth> abattoir: i don't where the text is in french
[05:20] <pierreth> Hawkwind: how can i do this?
[05:21] <abattoir> pierreth: do a 'sudo apt-get update' and then try again
[05:21] <abattoir> pierreth: i think there are new packages
[05:22] <abattoir> pierreth: the error messages that you first pastebin'd are in french
[05:22] <abattoir> pierreth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20667
[05:24] <pierreth> abattoir: ok the first one, yes well it is both french and english
[05:24] <viper550> With all the people switching to Firefox as their web browser or using other GTK apps and noticing how ugly they look, think maybe we should use QtCurve as the default Kubuntu theme?
[05:24] <pierreth> ok i made the sudo apt-get update
[05:24] <wind> how do i mount a pcmcia
[05:24] <pierreth> but it changes nothing
[05:25] <pierreth> it works but the application is still the same
[05:25] <abattoir> pierreth: also, reg. enabling universe and multiverse, add 'universe multiverse' after 'main restricted' in the first line
[05:25] <wind> it's a sd card reader, someone helped me before with it but i can't figure it out once i take the card out and put it back in
[05:25] <pierreth> abattoir: the first line of what?
[05:25] <abattoir> pierreth: try doing a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' or if you want only the latest version of those packages, do 'sudo apt-get install <package>'
[05:25] <abattoir> pierreth: your /etc/apt/sources.list file :P
[05:25] <waspius> i want to install valknut and i have downloaded the source and i want to compile it but i get that error
[05:26] <waspius> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20670
[05:26] <abattoir> viper550: doesnt the gtk-qt engine give it a 'qt-ish' look?
[05:26] <pierreth> i should edit sources.list?
[05:26] <viper550> But still, QtCurve looks very nice, and fits with the Kubuntu style looks wise
[05:27] <Hawkwind> waspius: What's wrong with doing: sudo apt-get install valknut ??
[05:27] <abattoir> pierreth: well, you asked Hawkwind how to enable extra repositories... :)
[05:27] <pierreth> ok
[05:27] <abattoir> viper550: i guess you could send a message to the Mailing list, or discuss later in a meeting... not sure which is the right course though, would do the former first
[05:28] <waspius> Hawkwind: :)..yep that is a good idea...did not think of that:(
[05:28] <abattoir> *I would do....
[05:29] <pierreth> abattoir: ok i am updatting
[05:30] <pierreth> abattoir: it is updating everything i think
[05:30] <waspius> does anyone use guarddog?
[05:31] <Hawkwind> I have a guarddog that lays by the front door waiting on strangers to knock :P
[05:31] <waspius> :)
[05:32] <lied> can someone past me his xorg.conf?
[05:32] <pierreth> abattoir: why does it updates all my apps?
[05:34] <Hawkwind> pierreth: It only updates apps that are installed that have updates on the repos.  It doesn't update 'everything' unless 'everything' has a new version
[05:35] <pierreth> Hawkwind: well, it is a lot anyway
[05:35] <Hawkwind> pierreth: It will be if you've never updated your install before
[05:36] <pierreth> Hawkwind: well, my system is new
[05:36] <Hawkwind> pierreth: Then that's why you have so many updates.  Tons of things have been updated since the release of the ISO images
[05:37] <pierreth> Hawkwind: well, i made the update from the graphical installer
[05:37] <pierreth> Hawkwind: after the installl i think it is checking for updates automatically
[05:38] <pierreth> abattoir: i succed with my Java install
[05:38] <Sikon> I installed the Russian language pack for KDE and it worked, but KDM is still in English
[05:39] <Sikon> is there a way to localize KDM?
[05:39] <pierreth> ok, it is done!
[05:39] <abattoir> pierreth: cool :)
[05:39] <waspius> do you know how i can update kopete?
[05:39] <pierreth> abattoir: i have eclipse installed
[05:39] <wind> what do i need to put in fstab to get my pcmcia sd card reader to... read
[05:39] <wind> or nount
[05:40] <pierreth> Kontact is still the same :-(
[05:40] <wind> mount
[05:40] <Hawkwind> waspius: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade    If there is a newer version, it should update it assuming you have all the right repos
[05:40] <longbean> Sikon: there might be something in the KDE control panel. look for "login manager" or similar
[05:40] <waspius> Hawkwind: if i do not have the right repso??cause i think i dont..i have not added any new ones except by adding multiverse
[05:41] <abattoir> pierreth: kontact is part of KDE, hence you'd get the *latest* by upgrading to 3.5.4
[05:41] <pierreth> abattoir: ok, i must move to kde to have it?
[05:41] <Hawkwind> !repos > waspius
[05:41] <waspius> Hawkwind: thank
[05:41] <abattoir> pierreth: aah, i forgot that you are on xfce
[05:41] <waspius> !repos
[05:41] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:42] <Hawkwind> waspius: It sent you the info in pm already
[05:42] <pierreth> abattoir: i don't like kde, the Terminal is buggy
[05:42] <Hawkwind> waspius: That was what I did when I did !repos > waspius
[05:42] <Hawkwind> pierreth: So use a different terminal within KDE
[05:42] <abattoir> pierreth: maybe adding the kde 3.5.4 repos and then installing it might help
[05:42] <Hawkwind> pierreth: You don't have to use KDE apps only within KDE
[05:43] <abattoir> pierreth: heh, that's a nice reason for not using an entire DE :P
[05:43] <pierreth> Hawkwind: yes but by default it starts kde apps
[05:43] <Hawkwind> I don't use KDE at all.  Yet I use konqueror and konsole
[05:43] <yuriy> i got a random email asking for help with kubuntu o_O
[05:43] <yuriy> in russian
[05:43] <Hawkwind> pierreth: So stop it from starting those apps and set it up the way *you* want it and what *you* want it to run or not run
[05:43] <Hawkwind> yuriy: Guess you better go help :P
[05:43] <trappist> yuriy: that's what you get for being named yuriy
[05:44] <abattoir> yuriy: someone here must have noticed your name :P
[05:44] <pierreth> Hawkwind: you think it is possible?
[05:44] <Hawkwind> pierreth: This is linux, anything is possible :)
[05:44] <yuriy> took me a few minutes to read
[05:44] <pierreth> Hawkwind: can i install kde, remove the kicker and add the xfce panels?
[05:45] <abattoir> pierreth: if i may ask... what's wrong w/ kicker?
[05:45] <Hawkwind> pierreth: Of course you can
[05:45] <trappist> absolutely nothing.  except a few bugs.
[05:45] <abattoir> pierreth: you can do a 'killall kicker' to close kicker
[05:45] <pierreth> abattoir: i don't like the taskbar
[05:46] <trappist> but some people like a pretty bare-bones desktop.  and those folks might prefer something like fluxbox.  which I would like a lot better if it came with or interacted well with kicker.
[05:46] <pierreth> abattoir: the buttons are talking all the place and i must read them to know where to go
[05:46] <yuriy> trappist: like what?   ==> bugs.kde.org :)
[05:46] <Hawkwind> So remove the taskbar from kicker or run the Xfce panel
[05:46] <trappist> yuriy: don't worry, I've reported my bugs :)
[05:47] <abattoir> pierreth: you have a vertical kicker?
[05:47] <trappist> but using launchpad is much more pleasant than using bugs.kde.org
[05:47] <Hawkwind> trappist: What problems did you have with kicker in fluxbox ?  I used to run kicker a while back in flux but it's been quite some time
[05:47] <abattoir> or had?
[05:47] <pierreth> abattoir: no the vertical is even wrost, it is very slow
[05:47] <trappist> Hawkwind: it runs, but it doesn't seem to communicate properly with all my open windows.
[05:47] <yuriy> trappist: i agree, but reporting the bugs upstream makes them more likely to be fixed
[05:47] <pierreth> can i install kde on top of my xfce?
[05:48] <david__> hi
[05:48] <Hawkwind> trappist: Strange.  I never had that problem.  But it's been well over a year since I really used fluxbox.  I'm now an E17 person for life.
[05:48] <longbean> pierreth: you can run kde apps from xfce, no problem
[05:48] <gnomefreak> pierreth: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   it will let you choose than to boot whatever one you want to at the time
[05:48] <david__> where would I find the sources of the network settings module of kubuntu? also in the kde svn?
[05:48] <Hawkwind> pierreth: You can install KDE along side of Xfce
[05:48] <trappist> yuriy: depends - often it's a packaging problem.  but yeah most of my kicker problems probably do need to be fixed upstream.  I do submit my important bugs there.
[05:48] <abattoir> pierreth: i dont understand what you mean, the icons are only 20somethingx20something.. you can remove them if you dont want
[05:49] <trappist> yuriy: all my kicker bugs involve running two kickers on multiple displays
[05:49] <pierreth> abattoir: the icons are ok, you cannot remove the text
[05:49] <waspius> Hawkwind: i did what u said and added one repo deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main..that is all i found..i had already added the multiverse...but still no update for kopete..and it needs one i think
[05:49] <Hawkwind> pierreth: Yes you can
[05:49] <pierreth> Hawkwind: how?
[05:49] <longbean> pierreth: you mean the stuff that pops up when you mouse-over?
[05:50] <Hawkwind> waspius: You need to add stuff like universe as well
[05:50] <abattoir> longbean: no, i think he means the actual text(title of the window) on the tasbar entries
[05:50] <pierreth> no, i mean the text of the buttons on the taskbar
[05:50] <Hawkwind> pierreth: Right click on the icon, then in that screen remove any of the text you want
[05:50] <waspius> Hawkwind: ok..thanx allot
[05:51] <pierreth> Hawkwind: the news apps are going to appear with text
[05:51] <DaSkreech> MOrning
[05:51] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Good morning
[05:51] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: What happened to ebuntu?
[05:51] <abattoir> hello DaSkreech :)
[05:51] <Hawkwind> pierreth: I haven't run KDE in a while, but I had it set up for my dad and he had no text on any icons as I had removed it all as he didn't like it either
[05:51] <DaSkreech> abattoir: Morning :)
[05:51] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: What do you mean ?
[05:52] <DaSkreech> Hi nixternal
[05:52] <pierreth> Hawkwind: ok, i will install and you will help me. ok? :-)
[05:52] <DaSkreech> There was a ebuntu project (tentative)
[05:52] <Hawkwind> pierreth: Hah!  I don't run KDE man.  I just know a bit of how it works
[05:52] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Yeppers.  Still is AFAIK
[05:52] <DaSkreech> There are so many people who hang around here who use E why isn't there more activity?
[05:53] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Because not many can build good E17 deb packages unfortunately
[05:53] <wille> mits ihmett ?
[05:53] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Really? Elive doesn't seem to have much issue
[05:53] <pierreth> Hawkwind: No?
[05:53] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I have setup my own E17 Ubuntu repo on my http://SeerOfSouls.com/ site though.  We are working with a new script to get even cleaner builds
[05:53] <DaSkreech> wille: Hello What Language?
[05:54] <abattoir> !fi
[05:54] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[05:54] <abattoir> wille: ^^^
[05:54] <Hawkwind> pierreth: Most anyone here can help you configure KDE though.
[05:54] <nixternal> hiya DaSkreech
[05:54] <nixternal> my computer just straight locked up windows style
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: I know :) But shouldn't there be reports from the ebuntu team?
[05:54] <DaSkreech> nixternal: Yeah that happens to me all the time
[05:54] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: But they don't build 100% proper packages unfortunately.  Atleast not good enough to be accepted into a distro like Ubuntu
[05:54] <abattoir> nixternal: hi :)... edgy?
[05:54] <nixternal> not me it doesn't ;)
[05:54] <nixternal> dapper
[05:54] <pierreth> Hawkwind: :-)
[05:54] <nixternal> edgy runs like a charm ;)
[05:55] <abattoir> nixternal: i have problems w/ kwin in edgy :(
[05:55] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: There probably should be.  I really don't know what's what when it comes to Ebuntu.  I should try and get involved since I have an E17 repo
[05:55] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: #ebuntu
[05:56] <DaSkreech> Contact the guy who owns this room
[05:56] <trappist> channel
[05:56] <Hawkwind> Heh.  I knew that was coming
[05:56] <Hawkwind> trappist: Some things never change :)
[05:56] <trappist> some things never will :)
[05:56] <DaSkreech> trappist: Thanks
[05:56] <pierreth> ok, i'll take some sleep, see you later...
[05:57] <DaSkreech> pierreth: Later
[05:57] <pierreth> thank you
[05:58] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Hah!  Noone is even in #Ebuntu except for ChanServ
[05:58] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: I know that :-P
[05:58] <DaSkreech> The onl;y person who hangs out there is me
[05:58] <Hawkwind> That's really sad to be honest.  Seems it would be more popular
[05:58] <DaSkreech> #ubuntu-libre hhas more people
[05:58] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: That's what I'm saying. The chan has a owner though right?
[05:59] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Yeah.  One that hasn't been seen in almost 9 weeks now
[05:59] <larson9999> i've been banging around on a few different distros.  lots to like.  yum is a little dubious though
[05:59] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Right but that would be the person to contact. He's the official link between Canonical and Ebuntu so that would be the place to start
[06:00] <DaSkreech> larson9999: Try grml :)
[06:00] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Yeah I'm going to email him right now and see what the latest status is.  The wiki page hasn't been updated with any new info since July 13th and even then there was nothing really added
[06:01] <DaSkreech> Yup yup I knwo I've been following
[06:01] <DaSkreech>  nbuntu is more active than this and I don't even think that's a real Distro :-D
[06:02] <larson9999> ok, going to do my first real gui programming.  hope i don't drown
[06:02] <MasterEvil`Lapto> there anyway to set a shortcut on desktop to turn off my monitor, *screen blank, etc) ?
[06:03] <MasterEvil`Lapto> if i set it to 30 minutes automatically in my xorg, it doesn't work.. if i set it to 15 it does owrk..
[06:03] <TheFuzzball> is there a channel to help people with Adept?
[06:04] <wind> what do i need to put in fstab to get my pcmcia sd card reader to... moun
[06:04] <wind> t
[06:05] <Philip5> !pastebin
[06:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:05] <TheFuzzball> is there a channel to help people with Adept?
[06:05] <TheFuzzball> !Adept
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Adept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:06] <larson9999> things are working well with this new pc.  now the questions are do i just leave windows media center installed or mess with installing xp pro?  i don't use windows for much at atll.  and do i mess the athestics up by putting my beige 3 1/5" - 5 14" combo floppy drive in this nice black case?
[06:06] <abattoir> TheFuzzball: i dont think one exists... what's up?
[06:06] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I've just emailed the guy and asked a few questions.  I'll keep you informed as to what he replies with, if he replies
[06:07] <TheFuzzball> abattoir: I can't install anything without it saying Unmet Dependencies and then giving me a list of the apps I can't install
[06:07] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Not like you're going to be showing it off at a show or something.  Put the hardware in it if you need it
[06:07] <abattoir> TheFuzzball: you might need to enable additional repositories
[06:07] <abattoir> TheFuzzball: have you tried apt-get?
[06:08] <larson9999> Hawkwind: oh, i forgot.  my wife will likely give me an earful :)  but i do play some old games.  the eternal question: games or girls?
[06:08] <TheFuzzball> abattoir: I have, you want me to give you a pastebin of what I typed?
[06:08] <abattoir> TheFuzzball: sure :)
[06:08] <GoatBoy> anyone able to help with geting a 3com witeless pcmcia card to work
[06:08] <Hawkwind> larson9999: I bought my dad a new computer that has Windows MC on it and it's quite nice compared to XP.  Not saying I'd use it, as I don't. But it has a nicer feel/look than any XP does IMO
[06:09] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Well colors of hardware have no bearing on how the system works.  If it works, it works.  I'd make that perfectly clear to her :)
[06:09] <waspius> as kubuntu does not have a root user do i need to create one or not?
[06:09] <Hawkwind> waspius: Use sudo
[06:09] <Sikon> how to add directories to the "System" places menu?
[06:09] <Hawkwind> waspius: You *can* create one if you so desire by doing: sudo passwd
[06:09] <larson9999> Hawkwind: yeah, i think i'll leave it at least until i think there's a reason.
[06:09] <rkd> waspius: technically it does have a root user, you merely don't know the password
[06:10] <Sikon> the one that's on the taskbar by default and has a computer as its icon
[06:10] <wind> hey hawkwind, what do i need to put in fstab to get my pcmcia sd card reader to... mount
[06:10] <wind> or am i going about it the wrong way
[06:10] <TheFuzzball> abattoir: pastebin is running slowly
[06:11] <abattoir> Sikon: not sure about that, but you can create your own menu...
[06:11] <Hawkwind> wind: I honestly don't know.  I've never messed with an sd card reader and surely wouldn't want it mounted on boot
[06:11] <Sikon> abbatoir> how?
[06:11] <larson9999> shouldn't it just mount to media?  this automounting stuff is confusing to me
[06:11] <abattoir> Sikon: so you could try recreating the system menu thing w/ the things you need
[06:11] <wind> i just want it to mount, so if i need to take it out and put it back in i don't have to constantly mount it
[06:11] <abattoir> TheFuzzball: if ubuntu-nl is slow, you can try pastebin.ca
[06:11] <wind> well its reading as a external hd
[06:12] <Hawkwind> wind: What /dev does it say it is in dmesg ?
[06:12] <larson9999> my usb stuff doesn't have ftab entries and they mount.  in mandriva there were fstab entries for them.
[06:12] <larson9999> but they mount to media instead of mnt
[06:12] <abattoir> Sikon: its not very straightforward... you should run kmenuedit, add your own menu, then rt.click on the panel->add appl. to panel->add your menu, and then remove that menu from kmenuedit(if you dont need it)
[06:13] <Lynoure> I mapped backspace to my capslock key but the new backspace does not repeat? How can I make it repeat without affecting other keys? (I used xkb not xmodmap)
[06:13] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Thanks. :-)
[06:14] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: New beta of elive is out. They have a pretty detailed changelog
[06:14] <aliasfred> !restricted
[06:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:14] <roman_> thanx
[06:14] <roman_> for that sites
[06:15] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Yeah.  I know Thanta very well and see most of what's going on with Elive since I know all the devs for it and most of the ones for E itself.  They are doing a great job on Elive
[06:15] <Sikon> wait, I can place the bookmarks/favorites thing
[06:15] <DaSkreech> I know
[06:15] <Sikon> that's what I need
[06:15] <trappist> Hawkwind: make em fix Eterm for amd64
[06:15] <trappist> actually that's a libast2 fix not an Eterm fix
[06:15] <waspius> Hawkwind: but is it safe that way?or is the other better?
[06:15] <Hawkwind> trappist: Talk to KainX he's the Eterm maintainer.
[06:16] <GoatBoy> can anyone help with geting a 3com pcmcia card to work
[06:16] <Hawkwind> trappist: Ah yeah, the good ole libast2 issue
[06:16] <roman_> where can i find the w32codecs
[06:16] <trappist> Hawkwind: I got the fix into dapper, so I'm happy.  but it oughtta go upstream.
[06:16] <Hawkwind> waspius: I've done it.  It's no different than having a traditional root account
[06:17] <Hawkwind> trappist: Who maintains libast2 ?
[06:17] <Sikon> roman_> on the mplayer site, I believe
[06:17] <Hawkwind> roman_: From PLF
[06:17] <trappist> Hawkwind: my first guess is: nobody
[06:17] <Hawkwind> !plf
[06:17] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[06:17] <Sikon> hmm
[06:17] <Sikon> !rms
[06:17] <ubotu> rms is Richard Matthew Stallman, founder of the GNU project. See !gnu and also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman
[06:17] <roman_> can give me a link
[06:17] <Hawkwind> roman_: The bot just did, look up about 5 lines where ubotu spoke
[06:18] <roman_> jo
[06:18] <Sikon> how can I change the columns displayed in the Detailed List view in Konqueror?
[06:19] <roman_> i cant find it
[06:19] <Hawkwind> roman_: Can't find what ?
[06:19] <fdoving> Sikon: view -> view details.
[06:19] <roman_> w32codecs
[06:20] <Hawkwind> roman_: Did you add a PLF source ?
[06:20] <roman_> to play avi
[06:20] <dr_willis> !w32codec
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <dr_willis> !w32codecs
[06:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:20] <dr_willis> i alwyas get the latest .debs for them from the mplayer homepage.
[06:20] <roman_> thanx that was what i need
[06:21] <wind> when i try to mount the card reader it gives me the error
[06:21] <wind> can't find /dev/hdc1 in /etc/fstab
[06:21] <dr_willis> try a sudo fdisk -l    and see what partitions are being detected by the os.
[06:21] <Sikon> this isn't very convenient, though -  have to open the menu four times to hide four columns
[06:22] <waspius> does anyone know how to install a bootsplash?
[06:22] <Sikon> I do
[06:22] <Sikon> for GRUB?
[06:22] <waspius> kde
[06:22] <dr_willis> I recall a wiki page on the topic waspius.
[06:22] <TheGateKeeper> roman_:
[06:22] <TheGateKeeper> wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[06:22] <TheGateKeeper> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[06:22] <dr_willis> kde dosent use a 'bootsplash'  theres different 'splash' things.
[06:23] <waspius> ie?
[06:23] <roman_> i have got already now the codecs
[06:23] <roman_> he is installing now
[06:23] <h3sp4wn> waspius: splashy is pretty good
[06:23] <Remo_A> hi all
[06:23] <dr_willis> ya got the grub background/consold background. ya got the fancy animated booting scene. then ya got when kde loads a little animated splash sequence
[06:23] <waspius> h3sp4wn: ok i will check it out thanx
[06:24] <granbar> Hello
[06:24] <Remo_A> I can't use kile(latex frontend) because it shows error while compiling, when I type something in a .tex file and save it, the message is, that "Selected encoding cannot encode every unicode character in this document.
[06:24] <waspius> h3sp4wn: does it use allot of memory?
[06:24] <granbar> Why is it so that I can't install libxine-extracodecs?
[06:24] <Remo_A> what is messed up with the locals?
[06:25] <DaSkreech> granbar: You can't see a libxine-extracodecs?
[06:25] <h3sp4wn> waspius: No
[06:25] <Remo_A> kile is set up to ISO 8859-1 <- german encoding
[06:25] <TheGateKeeper> Remo_A: the one in the repos no good???
[06:26] <Sikon> so KDM can't be configured to be fullscreen, like GDM?
[06:26] <Remo_A> TheGateKeeper: exactly that one, yes
[06:26] <granbar> DaSkreech: I've enabled universe and multiverse, and neither apt-get nor apt-cache finds it.
[06:26] <waspius> h3sp4wn: and can i use bootsplash icons on it?
[06:26] <granbar> DaSkreech: It is refered to though
[06:26] <TheGateKeeper> Remo_A: enable universe apt-get install kile
[06:26] <DaSkreech> granbar: Are you sure?
[06:26] <dr_willis> Sikon,  Huh? the KDM login manager  is full screen as far as i know.. theres dozens of themes for it also to twiddle with.
[06:27] <granbar> DaSkreech: I'll check over sources.list once again, but I'm pretty sure
[06:27] <dr_willis> Sikon,  your definition of 'full' screen may be different from mine. :P
[06:27] <darkkish> hey
[06:27] <Remo_A> TheGateKeeper: universe and multiverse repos enabled
[06:27] <granbar> DaSkreech: Yes. I have uncommented all the additional lines in sources.list
[06:27] <carlos> anyone here, have worked with QT libraries?
[06:27] <carlos> specifically qFTP ?
[06:28] <DaSkreech> granbar: And added the words Multiverse?
[06:28] <darkkish> yesterday i screwed up my linux trying to install nvidia drivers, it just wont boot anymore
[06:28] <Hawkwind> granbar: Why don't you paste your sources.list to http://pastebin.ca
[06:28] <longbean> granbar: and you've run apt-get update?
[06:28] <TheGateKeeper> Remo_A: having problems try this for size: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[06:28] <carlos> darkkish: wich card do u have?
[06:28] <Hawkwind> darkkish: Won't boot, or won't start a graphical interface ?
[06:28] <granbar> DaSkreech, Hawkwind and longbean: I'll paste the sources.list into the pastebin. Gimme a sec.
[06:29] <DaSkreech> granbar: Ok
[06:29] <Remo_A> TheGateKeeper: what the hell! This is not a repository thing! my input encoding is just different than the one used in kile
[06:30] <Kr4t05> Remo_A: Take a breather.
[06:30] <Remo_A> sorry
[06:30] <Kr4t05> How can I resize my swap partition?
[06:30] <TheGateKeeper> Remo_A: you said you had problems compiling, which suggested you where trying to compile from source and install
[06:30] <Remo_A> no, lol
[06:30] <darkkish> can someone help me in PM with my nvidia graphics driver problem?
[06:31] <Remo_A> kile compiles tex into dvi and then to pdf or whatever
[06:31] <Remo_A> well not kile exactly obviously
[06:31] <Kr4t05> Is there any way I can get qparted to resize my swap partition?
[06:31] <Remo_A> that's just the frontend
[06:31] <granbar> DaSkreech, Hawkwind and longbean: http://pastebin.ca/133038
[06:31] <Remo_A> this is an encoding thing, I just need to know where I can change the input encoding
[06:32] <TheGateKeeper> Remo_A: ok, don't use the package so not familiar with what it get up too sorry :-(
[06:32] <Remo_A> i hate this ISO-xxx vs. UTF war
[06:32] <Remo_A> TheGateKeeper: easy
[06:32] <DaSkreech> granbar: You have multiverse on backports
[06:33] <DaSkreech> granbar: Might want to add it to the lines above that have universe
[06:33] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know why I can't resize ext2/3 partitions?
[06:33] <Remo_A> this is pretty simple question: where can I change the input encoding to ISO 8859-1
[06:33] <draggho> Kr4t05: maybe they are mounted?
[06:33] <draggho> Kr4t05: try to use gparted from LiveCD
[06:33] <Kr4t05> draggho: In the live-cd?
[06:33] <dr_willis> Kr4t05,  using parted/gparted/qtparted?
[06:33] <draggho> okey
[06:33] <draggho> right
[06:33] <darkkish> how do i mount my drive in live cd?
[06:33] <granbar> DaSkreech: Okay. Thanks. I'll try that :)
[06:33] <darkkish> i forgot
[06:34] <Hawkwind> darkkish: What's the device number ?
[06:34] <dr_willis> mount /dev/whatever /mountit/whever
[06:34] <Hawkwind> darkkish: mount /dev/something /mnt/whatever
[06:34] <darkkish> thanks
[06:34] <draggho> Kr4t05: sometime, when you have complicated partition scheme, parted doesn't work :(
[06:34] <Hawkwind> darkkish: As sudo of course
[06:34] <draggho> Hawkwind: not in the LiveCD :P
[06:34] <darkkish> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[06:34] <darkkish> ues
[06:35] <darkkish> sudo
[06:35] <darkkish> in the live cd
[06:35] <granbar> DaSkreech: Thanks, it works! :)
[06:35] <draggho> Hawkwind: need to give -t option
[06:35] <DaSkreech> granbar: Excellent
[06:35] <darkkish> yesterday i swear all i typed
[06:35] <granbar> DaSkreech: And I'm really impressed by both Kubuntu and it's community :)
[06:36] <darkkish> was sudo mount /dev/hda5 /mnt
[06:36] <Kr4t05> draggho: /dev/hda1 - ext3 Mounted at / | /dev/hda2 - swap | /dev/hdb1 - FAT32  /dev/hdb2 - NTFS
[06:36] <DaSkreech> granbar: Cool Score one point for us :)
[06:36] <Kr4t05> Gar...
[06:36] <DaSkreech> darkkish: Then you need an auto somewhere
[06:36] <bele> Hi, anyone here using compiz with KDE? Is it really usable for a non-developer?
[06:36] <DaSkreech> darkkish: I'm not sure have you looked under /media I remember some drives automounting under there
[06:37] <Kr4t05> I need to resize a partition on my primary drive, because, if I don't, the Windows installer has a spazz.
[06:37] <darkkish> none of my drives are mounted and when i rightclick > mount, i get an  error
[06:37] <DaSkreech> bele: Pretty much yes. Ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:37] <bele> DaSkreech: thanks
[06:37] <Hawkwind> darkkish: mount -t auto /dev/hda5 /mnt/some-directory-you-created
[06:38] <darkkish> w00t
[06:38] <darkkish> thanks
[06:38] <darkkish> ok now to fix my GeForce drivers -_-
[06:39] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:39] <Leafw> where is the dns config file? Which file under /etc ?
[06:39] <Leafw> I mean the file that has the dns servers
[06:39] <darkkish> how can i uninstall my graphix card drivers in live cd?
[06:39] <draggho> resolve.conf
[06:40] <draggho> Leafw: resolve.conf
[06:40] <Leafw> that's it!
[06:40] <Leafw> thanks
[06:40] <Leafw> (coudln't recall the name)
[06:41] <draggho> Kr4t05: I think LiveCD mounts swap
[06:41] <draggho> check it out
[06:41] <Kr4t05> draggho: It says its mounted.
[06:42] <draggho> Kr4t05: so you have to unmount it, or swapoff it
[06:42] <darkkish> can someone help me uninstall my graphix drivers WHILE i'm on live CD?
[06:42] <Kr4t05> draggho: do you have an exact command for swapoff?
[06:43] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: link
[06:43] <dr_willis> swapoff /dev/hda2
[06:43] <darkkish> i tried changing nvidia back to nv, but that didn't help
[06:44] <dr_willis> then ya got some issues
[06:44] <draggho> Kr4t05: swapon -s
[06:44] <draggho> gives you the partition
[06:44] <darkkish> the odd thign is in this file it says "ATI Technologies, inc. Radeon RV100 QY"
[06:44] <draggho> then sudo swapoff /dev/something
[06:44] <draggho> leaves swap
[06:44] <draggho> then umount /partition
[06:45] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: link for the meeting
[06:50] <darkkish> hmm
[06:50] <darkkish> i think i figured out how to fix the problem
[06:50] <darkkish> bbiab if it doesn't work
[06:50] <Orasis1> Anyone know how I can remove the I386 kernel and replace it with the I686 kernel?
[06:51] <dr_willis> install the 686 first
[06:52] <waspius> is there a package that will have some basic games to download?
[06:55] <trappist> waspius: kdegames
[06:55] <waspius> trappist: it says it is an empty directory
[06:55] <tRSS> hi everyone. i need help with amarok and my usb headset. i can't get my usb headset to work with amarok 1.4.1.
[06:56] <dr_willis> it works otherwise?
[06:57] <tRSS> dr_willis: is that a question for me?
[06:57] <trappist> waspius: what says what?
[06:57] <waspius> trappist: in adept
[06:58] <Orasis1> dr_willus, dapper does not give me a kernel option at install.
[06:58] <Orasis1> So now my system is already installed with I guess the default 386 kernel, - so I cannot update it to the 686?
[06:59] <dr_willis> yes you can Orasis1
[06:59] <wind> when i try to mount the card reader it gives me the error can't find /dev/hdc1 in /etc/fstab... what do i do
[06:59] <tRSS> got it working. lol, choose alsa, and then in devices, enter hw:1,0
[07:00] <Orasis1> dr_willis: How?, I saw no option for it in the install - it went straight to a graphical GUI and I clicked installed - it never asked me for a kernel
[07:00] <waspius> trappist: did u check?
[07:03] <DaSkreech> waspius: Waht games do you like?
[07:03] <DaSkreech> !games
[07:03] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[07:03] <trappist> waspius: you just say `sudo apt-get install kdegames`
[07:03] <waspius> DaSkreech: thanx
[07:03] <waspius> trappist: ok
[07:05] <dr_willis> Orasis1,  fire up the package manager, search , install.
[07:06] <Orasis1> dr_willis: :)) That is what I was doing, I was asking if it would work - or send my machine into a kernel panic on reboot.
[07:08] <DaSkreech> Orasis1: It will work
[07:09] <maltaethiron> !wardriving
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wardriving - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <c13398> owa
[07:10] <TheHighChild> kismet
[07:13] <TheHighChild> maltaethiron: http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials/article.php/3595531
[07:14] <maltaethiron> oo, thank you TheHighChild
[07:14] <TheHighChild> maltaethiron: np, how many wireless cards are you going to use?
[07:14] <maltaethiron> 5
[07:15] <maltaethiron> so kismet is a package sniffer?
[07:18] <osh_> Someone here who could help me confirm a bug? Have a look here on how to reproduce it. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20680
[07:18] <TheHighChild> yes
[07:18] <TheHighChild> sorry, maltaethiron yes it's a sniffer
[07:19] <maltaethiron> thanks
[07:21] <maltaethiron> thehighchild: when enabling multiverse repositories, do i change ALL sections to universe multiverse, or just the ones that already say universe?
[07:22] <TheHighChild> maltaethiron: Not all of the repos have multiverses, you're better off using !source-o-matic
[07:22] <TheHighChild> !easysource
[07:22] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:23] <TheHighChild> Always make sure to make a backup of your current
[07:25] <TheHighChild> maltaethiron: So what are you trying to do with wardriving? Just mapping or are you trying to crack WEP networks?
[07:25] <maltaethiron> wardriving with googleearth
[07:25] <maltaethiron> and like mapping
[07:26] <waspius> does anyone know why i cannot send files in kopete?i have no option for it
[07:26] <TheHighChild> maltaethiron: http://www.perrygeo.net/wordpress/?p=55
[07:26] <maltaethiron> well what im getting at with the repositories is which ones do i have to change to be able to get kismet through synaptic
[07:29] <|lostbyte|> !ntsf
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntsf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <TheGateKeeper_> maltaethiron: you need to enable universe: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[07:29] <|lostbyte|> !ntfs
[07:29] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:29] <TheHighChild> maltaethiron: It's in the Universe
[07:29] <waspius> i have installed some kde games but i cannot see them in the menu bar why?
[07:32] <wind> how do i install a .tar.gz
[07:32] <wind> through the shell
[07:36] <TheGateKeeper_> wind: depends if it's source code or binaries
[07:37] <psb154> wind: tar xvfc file
[07:37] <psb154> xvfz sorry
[07:37] <wind> hm
[07:41] <darkkish> k so
[07:41] <darkkish> that didn't work ether
[07:42] <darkkish> i tried going into... safe mode and doing "nvidia-glx-config disable"
[07:42] <darkkish> i kept getting these wierd keybind errors
[07:42] <osh_> Someone here who could help me confirm a bug? Have a look here on how to reproduce it. It's quite simple. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20680
[07:44] <darkkish> O.o
[07:44] <darkkish> right click where?
[07:44] <soulrider> hi everyone
[07:44] <osh_> darkkish: in that konqueror dir.
[07:45] <darkkish> i don't even have that choice :p
[07:45] <chavo> osh_, I get the same thing here with 3.5.4
[07:45] <darkkish> can you help me with a grpahics driver problem?
[07:46] <osh_> chavo: I've got it in 3.5.4 too but I'd like to know if that's a 3.5.4 issue or if it was present earlier too.
[07:46] <chavo> ok
[07:47] <chavo> might be a problem with kubuntu-default-settings also
[07:47] <osh_> darkkish: no "Create new" entry in that menu that comes up? You should be able to create Text document, directories and other things.
[07:47] <darkkish> maybe not
[07:47] <maltaethiron> how do i save a file in nano?
[07:47] <darkkish> right now i'm on live CD?
[07:47] <osh_> chavo: might be.
[07:48] <darkkish> anyways
[07:48] <darkkish> i
[07:48] <darkkish> am having a driver problem
[07:48] <darkkish> with my nvidia drivers
[07:48] <darkkish> and now i can't boot into linux
[07:48] <darkkish> idk how to uninstall them
[07:48] <darkkish> i tried changing nvida back to nv but it didn't fix the problem
[07:49] <darkkish> nvidia*
[07:49] <osh_> darkkish: sorry, never done anything with gfx-drivers other than the open ones.
[07:49] <larson9999> i thought everything was going fine.  now this has happened twice.  my screen just turns white and i don't see a cursor and no key combination does anything.  in xorg i get a bunch of these error messages.  radeon xpress 200. kde http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20682
[07:50] <macpheec> darkkish - Can you boot into console?
[07:50] <darkkish> yeah
[07:50] <darkkish> but
[07:50] <darkkish> i have no idea what to do from there
[07:50] <osh_> darkkish: what you could do is to move xorg.conf to xorg.conf.OLD and do a dpkg-reconfigure xorg (or whatever that package name is). From console, that is.
[07:50] <darkkish> uh
[07:50] <darkkish> so just rename it?
[07:51] <darkkish> to .OLD ?
[07:51] <osh_> darkkish: yeah, to keep a copy of it for future reference (should you need it).
[07:51] <darkkish> yeah
[07:51] <darkkish> and then how do i configure the package?
[07:52] <darkkish> ?
[07:52] <chavo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:53] <darkkish> there is no way to do it from the console in live CD?
[07:54] <darkkish> ?
[07:55] <osh_> darkkish: there is, but it involves mounting the right disks and doing changeroots and stuff. Probably easier to just reboot and do it right from the start.
[07:55] <darkkish> >_>
[07:55] <darkkish> i know what disks to mount
[07:55] <darkkish> i don't know how to do changeroots
[07:56] <darkkish> i guess i'll just write down the package and try it
[07:56] <darkkish> k
[07:56] <darkkish> wish me luck] 
[08:02] <larson9999> this machine is amd64 but i'm just using 32.  is the 64bit distro ready for a loser like me or is it still kinda troublesome?
[08:09] <boldii> hi
[08:10] <rkd> hi
[08:10] <boldii> can I somehow get the audio which is heard atm into a local file? I want to save audio heard with flash as an ogg-file.
[08:10] <Kr4t05> !grub
[08:10] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:10] <nicolas__> how do i move kde panel applets ?
[08:11] <rkd> boldii: iirc, audacity can record from "wave out"
[08:13] <darkkish> hey
[08:13] <darkkish> ok
[08:13] <heinkel_111> does any of the dapper drake installers support reiserfs filesystems?
[08:13] <darkkish> that did NOT work >_>
[08:13] <darkkish> i need someones help doing it in the console
[08:13] <darkkish> maybe remote desktop or something but it either way it would work better in PM
[08:13] <heinkel_111> i need a live cd or text based installer that can create reiserfs filesystems
[08:13] <darkkish> this is such a clean version of kubuntu i might just reinstall it
[08:14] <DaSkreech> heinkel_111: THey all can
[08:14] <nicolas__> isnt there a Move button on the kde applets ?
[08:14] <DaSkreech> If that's all you need it for try gprated
[08:14] <DaSkreech> nicolas__: Should be
[08:14] <heinkel_111> DaSkreech: i didn't get reiserfs option?
[08:14] <nicolas__> DaSkreech: seems its invisible
[08:14] <larson9999> gparted
[08:14] <heinkel_111> gparted isn't on the livecd
[08:14] <heinkel_111> qtparted is
[08:14] <DaSkreech> nicolas__: On Right click? The one at the top?
[08:15] <larson9999> gparted is a live cd
[08:15] <larson9999> and is better imo that qtparted
[08:15] <darkkish> ooh nicolas. cool, that how i spell my name :-O not that anyone cares :p
[08:15] <osh_> darkkish: Ok, mount the disks. Let's have a go at it.
[08:15] <heinkel_111> ah..yes, now i understand, there is a live cd distro version of gparted?
[08:15] <DaSkreech> !away > maltaethiron
[08:15] <larson9999> heinkel_111: yeah and it's a small download
[08:16] <darkkish> osh_:  can we talk in pm?
[08:16] <larson9999> heinkel_111: well, relatively
[08:16] <heinkel_111> because i know it as a program i installed with adept on my other machine (this one=
[08:16] <heinkel_111> thx
[08:16] <pm> in pm? interesting :P
[08:16] <osh_> darkkish: dunno, did you get my messages? I'm not a registered user.
[08:16] <darkkish> oh
[08:16] <darkkish> probably not
[08:16] <darkkish> its easy to register though O.o
[08:16] <darkkish> /ns register <password>
[08:16] <osh_> darkkish: yeah, but I can't be bothered... ;-)
[08:17] <darkkish> lol >_>
[08:17] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[08:17] <DaSkreech> There isa kMobiletools
[08:17] <heinkel_111> larson9999: yes gparted looks smoother than qtparted, but i guess it is the same under the lid
[08:18] <adaran> how do i put my laptop into suspend-to-ram or suspend-to-disk mode?
[08:18] <larson9999> heinkel_111: maybe.  but i had issues with ntfs with qtparted that i didn't have in gparted.  but then again maybe under the hood there were different versions of things
[08:20] <heinkel_111> i think they branched at some point and gparted is more recently updated
[08:20] <heinkel_111> but basically much the same, we don't deal with ntfs, do we?   ;-)
[08:21] <heinkel_111> larson9999:
[08:21] <Aeron> 4/5
[08:22] <larson9999> heinkel_111: when people pay use to, we do. don't we?
[08:23] <heinkel_111> oh well, we do date, but we are not cheap dates then :P
[08:23] <larson9999> lol
[08:24] <bele> adaran: from systray icon you can choose suspend or hibernate
[08:25] <adaran> bele: ah, well, that only suspends without telling me what it really does. i'd like to see S3 working.
[08:25] <zipper> Hmm... apparently my soundcard works fine in firefox, however, i get no sound from any other application. I have 2 soundcards, perhaps i should disable one of them? If so, how is that done?
[08:25] <sans> i don't know if anyone can help me with this, knights, the kde chess client, hangs indefinitately and uses an insane amount of cpu on its third move, I can't use it, anyone got an idea?
[08:25] <adaran> bele: it seems to just power off the monitor, fans are still running and all
[08:33] <marcio> qual o canal do ubuntu brasil?
[08:35] <NickGarvey> what command would I run to check what version of KDE I have?
[08:36] <gnomefreak> NickGarvey: apt-cache policy kdebase
[08:36] <gnomefreak> marcio: join #uubntu-br
[08:36] <gnomefreak> oops
[08:36] <gnomefreak> marcio: /j #ubuntu-br
[08:36] <DaSkreech> !br
[08:36] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[08:37] <NickGarvey> gnomefreak: the kde I have isn't from the repos
[08:37] <gnomefreak> dont matter
[08:37] <DaSkreech> NickGarvey: I just open up some random application and go help -> about KDE
[08:37] <gnomefreak> NickGarvey: it will still tell you it will say installed ....
[08:37] <NickGarvey> thank you
[08:37] <NickGarvey> 3.5.4a :)
[08:37] <NickGarvey> thanks
[08:37] <bele> adaran: for my HP laptop there's actually three levels of suspend to choose from, first (suspend) suspends to memory, fans and all are swithed off
[08:37] <Hawkwind> kde-config --version | grep KDE
[08:38] <DaSkreech> I'm not sure why you need a CLI check for a blatantly graphic application
[08:39] <heinkel_111> Hawkwind: if you use Konversation, /sysinfo will provide this output amongst other things
[08:39] <heinkel_111> as example:
[08:39] <Hawkwind> heinkel_111: I don't need the info, and I don't use KDE, at all :)
[08:39] <heinkel_111> oh, carry on then :P
[08:40] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Heh true.  I was just giving another way to check incase he didn't have X working or something :P
[08:41] <DaSkreech> Sysinfo for 'Released': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2800+ at 2083 MHz (4171 bogomips), , RAM: 495/503MB, 127 proc's, 1.1d up
[08:41] <DaSkreech> Woah :-)
[08:46] <DaSkreech> waspius: yo
[08:46] <waspius> DaSkreech: hey
[08:47] <sans> does anyone know what the kde base directory is in kubuntu?
[08:48] <sans> i mean in ubuntu + kubuntu-desktop
[08:53] <zipper> I have two soundcards in my pc, and i only want to use one of them, since the other one messes things up. How do i disble one of them?
[08:54] <mpc1000> bios?
[08:54] <zipper> i still want to use the second soundcard in windows, so thats not an option
[08:54] <ironfroggy> my laptop has both a touchpad and one of those nubs on the keyboard. when i adjust the pointer acceleration in KDE, however, it only seems to affect the speed of the nub, not the touchpad.
[08:54] <mpc1000> ditch windows 100%
[08:54] <mpc1000> :P
[08:55] <zipper> the thing is, my audigy4 is well supported, while my onboard Realtek ALC882 isn't
[08:55] <zipper> i would, if game developers used openGL instead of directx
[08:55] <Nuked> I have  a problem, when I try to remove an account from kopete it crashes.
[08:55] <mpc1000> get a console
[08:55] <zipper> mpc1000, stop being stupid. If you dont know the answer, the just leave it please
[08:55] <larson9999> only play/buy games that support linux
[08:55] <mpc1000> buddy
[08:55] <mpc1000> relax
[08:56] <zipper> mpc1000, i am actually quite relaxed
[08:56] <mpc1000> right
[08:56] <Nuked> so anyone know why kopete is crashing?
[08:56] <larson9999> not that hard.  if you've played all the linux games, you need a job :)
[08:56] <mpc1000> why don't
[08:56] <mpc1000> you goto google.com
[08:56] <mpc1000> and get your answer
[08:56] <mpc1000> i see it right there
[08:56] <mpc1000> :P
[08:56] <Nuked> mpc1000: you know thats the response the asshats at deban give you
[08:57] <zipper> mpc1000, you don't think i've been to google already? Interesting
[08:57] <Nuked> debian*
[08:57] <trappist> zipper: disable it in your BIOS
[08:57] <mpc1000> worst part about ubuntu is it turned a ton of "linux users" dependant on copy and pasting
[08:57] <zipper> Nuked, it's not a debian thing. Every distro has its elitists assholes
[08:57] <mpc1000> there solutions
[08:57] <mpc1000> no one goes out and fishes for answers
[08:57] <zipper> trappist, not an option unfortunately, need the soundcard for windows
[08:57] <Nuked> ahhh zipper, thanks for the clarification
[08:57] <zipper> trappist, and when it gets supported in linux, i need it there as well
[08:57] <mpc1000> ok
[08:58] <mpc1000> zipper, since your still using windows
[08:58] <mpc1000> why don't you make a 20 second trip into the bios
[08:58] <mpc1000> on each reboot?
[08:58] <mpc1000> that would stop any conflict 100%
[08:58] <mpc1000> when your in nix
[08:58] <zipper> cus' that would be a very stupid solution dont you think?
[08:58] <mpc1000> no
[08:58] <ironfroggy> yea seriously, stop being stupid and giving jackass answers mpc1000
[08:58] <mpc1000> lol
[08:58] <zipper> i refuse to believe it's impossible for linux to disable a device
[08:58] <mpc1000> hyperactive bitches
[08:58] <Hawkwind> !ops
[08:58] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak
[08:59] <Hawkwind> mpc1000: Seriously, chill with the name calling and all please
[08:59] <zipper> mpc1000, i'm glad you tried, thank you. Now, can someone with some real answers give me a hint please?
[08:59] <ironfroggy> it shouldnt be trouble to configure arts to use the specific card you want and not the other one.
[08:59] <trappist> zipper: I had to do this once.  your answer involves invoking asoundconf, but I forget the details.
[08:59] <DaSkreech> larson9999: Possibly in making linux games :)
[08:59] <mulder> hello all
[08:59] <zipper> trappist, thanks, i'll look into that
[08:59] <Kiongku> hi. i need to recompile my kernel if i want to add vesafb.ko module?
[08:59] <trappist> zipper: or, you could look into what driver is being loaded for your soundcard, and blacklist it
[09:00] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: Are you sure it's not already compiled into the kernel ?  Have you tried to modprobe it ?
[09:00] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: modprobe vesafb ?
[09:00] <slicslak> i tried installing kword but when i run it it says: WARNING: Libray files for ".la" not found in paths.
[09:00] <zipper> trappist, i think it's being loaded as an intel card (even though it isnt). Is there an article on the wiki about how to blacklist modules?
[09:00] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: You can try.  Not sure exactly what you are trying to do
[09:00] <Kiongku> no its not in
[09:00] <mulder> was here this morning, geneo and Intel helped me. Was trying to have my two cpus recognized, a decent 1280x800 reso set up and and being able to download update.
[09:01] <mulder> Anybody can help?
[09:01] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: i recompiled my kernel and now usplash does not work
[09:01] <mpc1000> http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=3&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Fp%3D1361091&ei=4RniRPOuK8v8igG0kJnGBg&sig2=nyKThKFv1ReUSDtKm-ek3g
[09:01] <Hawkwind> mulder: Have you installed the linux-686 kernel package ?
[09:01] <Kiongku> Kiongku: i think i miss fb modules
[09:01] <mpc1000> Disabling Onboard Sound without BIOS - Ubuntu Forums
[09:01] <Kiongku> XD
[09:01] <mulder> ah hawkind
[09:01] <Kiongku> oops sorry HAwkwind
[09:01] <mulder> basically i have resintalles the latest kubuntu version
[09:01] <Nuked> dude why is kopete crashing over removing an account?
[09:01] <mulder> so trying to set things up again
[09:01] <dell500> I'm having some major problems formatting my 300gb USB Sata drive for some reason... i've used fdisk and tried formatting with mkdosfs.
[09:02] <Hawkwind> mulder: linux-686 is what you need for HT/SMP processors
[09:02] <zipper> mpc1000, see, you are able to not give jackass answers if you want to. Unfurtunately, that thread didnt do me much good, already read it
[09:02] <mulder> ok...how can I do that Hawkind?
[09:02] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: Do i need fb modules for usplash to work?
[09:02] <Hawkwind> mulder: sudo apt-get install linux-686
[09:02] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: No idea.  I don't know anything about usplash
[09:02] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: Though it's highly possible just taking a random guess
[09:03] <larson9999> mpc1000 the problem is that people give answers instead of helping people find the answers.  i know because i've been the answer guy at work for years.  years back i started making everyone send me their questions in an email.  i think documentd them and forced people to read the doc before asking me anything.  if they still didn't find the answer and it was in there, i told them it was and to look again.  if they still can't find
[09:03] <larson9999> it, i look myself and amend the doc if it's hard to see or really isn't there :) and then show there where it is.  if it's not there i find the answer and add it.  amazing how that cuts down on my wasted time and makes people more independent.  i think that wouldn't be such a bad idea for help channels.  create they're own docs either with solutions or links to the 'officail' solution the channel endorces and only answer questions
[09:03] <larson9999> that are in the doc and also modify the doc as needed.  just my 2 cents
[09:04] <Nuked> larson9999 then what do you think of the kopete crash issue?
[09:04] <mulder> ok it says E: Couldn't find package linux-686
[09:04] <larson9999> Nuked: i don't konw haven't used it lately.  it doesn't work?
[09:04] <Hawkwind> mulder: Have you enabled all of the sources like multiverse and universe ?
[09:04] <mulder> huh not sure
[09:04] <Nuked> dude it crashes when I try to remove an aol account
[09:05] <DaSkreech> Nuked: Which version?
[09:05] <mpc1000> 3
[09:05] <Hawkwind> !repos > mulder
[09:05] <zipper> larson9999, i get where you are going. Unfortunately, the channels that are run that way end up being populated by a very small handfull of elitists who never gives any help, and just talk smack to people whenever they ask for help. I've seen it happend before, and i doubt it would be no different here
[09:05] <larson9999> Nuked: i should mention i'm the answer gut at work on the mainframe not *nix :)
[09:05] <Nuked> DaSkreech: the latest one provided with kde
[09:05] <Nuked> 3.5.4
[09:05] <larson9999> zipper: perhaps i forget to mention i do it with class and style and not with an asshat on
[09:05] <DaSkreech> 0.12?
[09:05] <Nuked> yeah
[09:06] <zipper> larson9999, ofcourse you do, i have no doubt of that. But in time, following thoose guidelines, people will forget about style and class all together
[09:06] <Nuked> 0.12.1
[09:06] <zipper> larson9999, at least, thats my experience
[09:06] <zipper> larson9999, ofcourse people need to read the guides, yes, but i don't think being strict about it is the way to go
[09:07] <larson9999> zipper: well at work i'm the only one so it's easy for me to keep that in check.
[09:07] <Nuked> DaSkreech: need the backtrace?
[09:07] <mulder> ok added multiverse...but still not downloading
[09:07] <osh_> larson9999: ekerim, is that you?
[09:07] <k3B> hej all im looking network sources , which net sources we use??
[09:07] <DaSkreech> Nuked: I'm using 0.11 so I'm a bit at a loss for reproducing it
[09:07] <ironfroggy> What do i need to get flash applets to play sound through arts?
[09:07] <mulder> do I have to add multiverse for all of them?
[09:07] <waspius> i have installed crystal window decoration but it is not transparent any help?
[09:08] <Hawkwind> mulder: Yes
[09:08] <Hawkwind> mulder: As well as universe
[09:08] <ironfroggy> zipper: are you still looking for a solution?
[09:08] <mulder> I feel like a carpet whore in a baghdad market
[09:08] <jujimufu> ok
[09:08] <mulder> ok Hawk
[09:08] <mpc1000> zipper, did you check the link i posted?
[09:08] <zipper> ironfroggy, sure... just reading different forums at the moment
[09:08] <Nuked> shit i figured it out
[09:08] <zipper> mpc1000, if you read what i said to you, you would know the answer to that question.
[09:08] <jujimufu> so, I tried enabling 3d acceleration on my i810 (855G) intel card, and I followed the instructions on this site: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver
[09:08] <larson9999> zipper: i'm not talking about guides.  that's too hard.  i'm talking about directing their searches by pointing them to the specific section of a specific document i think provides the best answer.  like "read the 3rd paragraph on page 7.  if that doesn't work come see me."  not like rftm
[09:09] <DaSkreech> Nuked: I guess you canpastebin the backtrace though Someone will probably jump ono it and help
[09:09] <TheGateKeeper> mulder: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[09:09] <larson9999> osh_: no it isn't
[09:09] <Nuked> DaSkreech: i figured it out using backtrace
[09:09] <DaSkreech> Nuked: Cool what is it?
[09:09] <DaSkreech> It's fixable?
[09:09] <jujimufu> and in the end, it says to make a new file, called /etc/init.d/915resolution and write some stuff on it, but a file like that alreayd exists. Any ideas?
[09:09] <ironfroggy> zipper: have you tried the 'Override device location' option in arts?
[09:09] <Nuked> DaSkreech: the desklist plugin when enabled will not allow you to delete accounts. disable it and do whatever you want
[09:10] <mulder> Thanks Gate K...how do I make a back up of the file?
[09:10] <mpc1000> ease up selectah
[09:10] <zipper> larson9999, yeah i know... and i agree, it's a good solution. However, i've experienced a tendency where people over time go away from the "Read/search for X" to "rtfm noob!" very quickly. I think it need some good management of the ops in the channels to make it work, which i haven't seen done yet. Not saying it's not doable, i just never seen it done in practice.
[09:10] <zipper> ironfroggy, uhm, no
[09:10] <osh_> Could someone not running kde3.5.4 check this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20688
[09:11] <zipper> ironfroggy, i dont even have 'arts'
[09:11] <larson9999> zipper: and i provide step by step screenshots.  so the first time a question is asked by anyone i don't say rtfm.  i give an answer and log it.  but then it becomes an question i answered.  anyway, it works very well for me at work.
[09:11] <Nuked> shit DaSkreech, now I cant do anything!
[09:11] <trappist> zipper: if you have kde you have arts
[09:11] <zipper> larson9999, i have no doubt of that, but irc is quite different from work :)
[09:12] <zipper> "arts: command not found"
[09:12] <zipper> ? =/
[09:12] <trappist> zipper: it doesn't work like that.  artsd (the arts daemon) runs in the background to handle your sound mixing.
[09:12] <Nuked> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20691 someone take a look at this and see what they can make of it
[09:12] <Kr4t05> !grub
[09:12] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:13] <larson9999> zipper:  yeah, i haven't seen it work too well.  but i think this channel could use ubotu that way and be pretty effective
[09:13] <zipper> trappist, ahh, so i just have to use kmix/alsamixer or whatever in order to "override device location"
[09:13] <mulder> starting to hae headaches again
[09:13] <zipper> ironfroggy, where do i find that "override device location" thing?
[09:13] <mulder> is it gb.archive or uk.archive?
[09:13] <trappist> zipper: I don't know :)  I don't use arts and I disabled my onboard card in the bios
[09:13] <Nuked> it seems that kopete is choking on the desklist plugin
[09:13] <zipper> larson9999, well, doesnt it already do that?
[09:14] <larson9999> zipper: if it's the climate, people come around.  i here people use that method when i'm gone.
[09:14] <pedro> Good night everyone
[09:14] <zipper> trappist, oh okay, thanks anyway
[09:14] <pedro> I recently installed ntfs-3g
[09:14] <bele> osh_: 3.5.2 and kspread doc is created
[09:14] <trappist> zipper: there used to be a quick and easy solution to this - alsaconf - but it's been disabled in the alsa-utils package.  there's a bug open where you can add your gripe to the list of reasons to bring it back until it can be properly replaced.
[09:14] <pedro> everything was all right except that I cannot see well accents and ""
[09:15] <larson9999> zipper to a degree but the thing that's missing is people answer not using ubotu.  i only give answers via the doc i use to record questions and answers.
[09:15] <pedro> My system is in spanish and maybe it is a problem of configuration of fstab
[09:15] <trappist> zipper: the *reason* I don't use arts is that I have an audigy, which does hardware mixing and makes arts unnecessary... once you get your other card out of the way
[09:15] <tdmg> I am trying to install Kubuntu 6.06 on my laptop.  I want to resize my Windows NTFS partition, make a shared FAT32, then my root and swap.  However, it only seems to allow me to make 3 partitions.  Why is this?  What can I do to get all four partitions?
[09:15] <osh_> bele: and you don't have koffice installed either?
[09:16] <mulder> strange I look in the packages installed and it shows linux-386...is it the 686 one that I need?
[09:16] <Nuked> tdmg: please defragment first
[09:16] <bele> osh_: no koffice installed here
[09:16] <trappist> zipper: also, why do you need that card in windows?  doesn't your audigy work in windows?
[09:16] <tdmg> Nuked.  I did
[09:16] <osh_> bele: Thanks a bunch.
[09:16] <bele> osh_: no prob
[09:16] <zipper> trappist, both work in windows. I would like to use both of them in linux as well, but according to different places on the web, my onboard soundcard isnt (yet) supported in linux
[09:17] <tdmg> I made sure by defraging a second time
[09:17] <Nuked> damn dude maybe you specified one of the partitions to be too big
[09:17] <DaSkreech> tdmg: And don't use primamry partitions
[09:17] <trappist> zipper: I'm terribly curious - how do you benefit from using two sound cards?
[09:17] <zipper> trappist, and thereby it is causing me some problems.... like, firefox can playback sound fine, no problems. Kaffeine and/or vlc is another case though, i get no sound from those
[09:17] <jujimufu> I do update-rc.d 915resolution start 99 defaults but it says " update-rc.d: error: expected runlevel [0-9S]  (did you forget "." ?) "
[09:17] <jujimufu> what am I supposed to do?
[09:17] <pedro> is there any help?
[09:18] <tdmg> DaSkreech:  How do I go about that?  Which ones are primary or not?  I thought I couldn't specify the file type if it was extended.
[09:18] <mulder> guys how can I do a back up of the file sudo cp -p /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup before I edit?
[09:18] <DaSkreech> tdmg: That's false. You can
[09:18] <zipper> trappist, well, i can easily have my amplifier/stereo connected while still having my headphones plugged in. That, and my onboard soundcard doesnt support openAL, which my audigy does (the main reason i got it)
[09:18] <tdmg> okay
[09:18] <DaSkreech> Make it extended and continue doing what ever you need
[09:19] <tdmg> thanks guys/girls! :D
[09:19] <trappist> zipper: can't you do all that with just your audigy?
[09:20] <zipper> trappist, well, i could. But then i would loose the ability to having both my stereo and headphones plugged in at once. I could ofcourse buy a splitter cable, but i don't feel like doing that. Besides, the question is never "why?" it's always "how?" :)
[09:20] <mulder> Anybody who can tell me how to back a file?
[09:20] <waspius> anyone know why i cannot send files in kopete?
[09:21] <DaSkreech> mulder: make a copy of it
[09:21] <trappist> zipper: don't worry, I'm not the "buy different hardware" guy.  I'm curious is all.
[09:21] <trappist> mulder: I'm confused.  your answer was built into the question the first time you asked it - cp file newfile
[09:22] <DaSkreech> trappist: Mee too but maybe he just needed some back up support :)
[09:22] <zipper> trappist, ok... well, the main reason is the openAL support, and then i just kept using the onboard soundcard for my stereo (since creative cards suck bigtime for music anyway), and my audigy for games/headphones
[09:23] <mulder> trappist...I am trying to have my duo cpus recognized for a start...and I can't do it
[09:23] <zipper> waspius, is your router setup to forward the nessesary ports?
[09:23] <trappist> zipper: yeah I need openAL support too for ut2004 - one of the many reasons I keep buying creative cards - but I have a slew of output jacks, each with its own volume control, so I figure I could use headphones and an amp at the same time, though I've never tried
[09:24] <trappist> mulder: what does backing up files have to do with smp support?
[09:24] <waspius> zipper: i am using a network just two pcs..and the problem is i dont even have the option to send a file
[09:24] <zipper> trappist, i think i could do that as well, seeing i have a few outputs as well. But i forgot to mention that my tv is also plugged into my onboard soundcard, which makes things a little tricky
[09:25] <zipper> waspius, that sounds wierd... not sure what could be causing that
[09:25] <mulder> well I need to be able to download linux-686 I guess...and repositories are not allowing me to download anything I suppose
[09:25] <mulder> so to activate the repositories I need to edit a few things
[09:25] <waspius> zipper: long ago with a previous version of kubuntu i had to update kopete..now i cannot find and update...probably no reps or something else is wrong
[09:25] <mulder> as shown here http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[09:26] <zipper> waspius, if you're running 6.06, my guess is that you're somewhat up-to-date
[09:27] <heinkel_111> i have installed kubuntu on a machine witout available network
[09:27] <heinkel_111> and now i am about to network it
[09:27] <waspius> zipper: kopete is 3.5.2
[09:27] <waspius> zipper: sorry 0.11.1
[09:27] <heinkel_111> is there a wizard i can use to get right network config?
[09:27] <heinkel_111> like running the installer again or something?
[09:28] <heinkel_111> i am using the amd-64  alternate (text based) install cd
[09:29] <zipper> waspius, i was talking about the version of (k)ubuntu
[09:29] <mulder> I am going banana again
[09:29] <waspius> zipper: a ok yes it is
[09:30] <zipper> heinkel_111, depends... if you just need to setup ip addresses and such, yes. If you need to install a specific driver for it, probably not.
[09:30] <zipper> waspius, i haven't used kopete enough to debug problems people experience with it, sorry
[09:30] <maltaethiron> its cyrus the virus!
[09:30] <waspius> zipper: dont worry i found an update
[09:31] <heinkel_111> zipper: do i need a specific driver for an ordinary asus/nvidia motherboard ethernet config?
[09:32] <mulder> oh man I am giving up for good
[09:32] <zipper> heinkel_111, depends on which onboard ethernet device you've got. Try clicking the big "k" icon -> "System Settings" -> "Connections"
[09:32] <zipper> heinkel_111, from there, you should be able to configure any already installed networking devices
[09:32] <zipper> mulder, i get that feeling all the time =/
[09:32] <heinkel_111> ok, thanks for help
[09:32] <zipper> heinkel_111, np
[09:33] <heinkel_111> i am not completely plugged in yet..
[09:33] <heinkel_111> but i think i will get a long enough cable in some minutes :P
[09:33] <mulder> geez I am not trying to build a rocket to jupier...just getting some updates and have a decent os so i can get rid of that bindows!
[09:36] <mulder> help folks. I will even give you Scully's mobile number if you ask!
[09:36] <zipper_> uuuh
[09:36] <zipper_> scully's phone number
[09:37] <mulder> :-)
[09:37] <mulder> Kubuntu looks so nice when it is optimised
[09:38] <Kr4t05> I can't seem to get GRUB back after installing Windows.
[09:38] <Tm_T> ugh
[09:38] <mulder> I want to have the basic things running, then after I learn alone
[09:38] <Kr4t05> The howto isn't helping.
[09:38] <zipper_> mulder, i would love to help you, but i'm a bit tied up. Apparently, the soundcards in my stationary AND laptop is hardly supported in linux, and i still need to figure out how to make twinview work properly
[09:38] <Tm_T> mulder: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png
[09:38] <Tm_T> mulder: like? ;)
[09:38] <Tm_T> hmm, should fix this broken iconset
[09:39] <zipper_> Tm_T, it's nice, but there's too much stuff going on for my taste... i like it clean
[09:39] <zipper_> and cmon... there's no reason to use a console irc client anymore
[09:39] <Tm_T> zipper_: well, I have 8 desktops and everyone has something ;)
[09:39] <Tm_T> zipper_: oh there is
[09:39] <DaSkreech> mulder: Don't learn alone :) what do you want to do?
[09:39] <Tm_T> zipper_: and I have 3 irssi running in tabs there
[09:40] <mulder> be rich and get rid of windows!
[09:40] <zipper_> Tm_T, what can irssi do, that no other gui client can do?
[09:40] <DaSkreech> mulder: I can help with the first part
[09:40] <DaSkreech>  Buy stock in Microsoft >_<
[09:40] <mulder> have the two cpus recognized, my ati x1400 too
[09:41] <zipper_> DaSkreech, heh, but then he isn't exactly rid of windows :)
[09:41] <mulder> damn everything is so slow suddenly
[09:41] <Tm_T> zipper_: well, it can't run in shell server
[09:41] <DaSkreech> zipper_: That's why I helped him with first one:)
[09:41] <gnomefreak> zipper_: irssi is extreamly powerful. i know people that have run it for 3-4 years and still havent found out everything about it
[09:41] <DaSkreech> mulder: What's up?
[09:41] <Tm_T> zipper_: sit in screen, nor can be as clean looking easy to use
[09:42] <Tm_T> zipper_: I don't need some shiny buttons to irc :)
[09:42] <mulder> genview made my lappy really really slow, mouse cursor was like walking on the moon
[09:42] <zipper_> gnomefreak, oh i agree. Irssi is a very good client. I just dont see the point of sticking to a console client, when good quality gui clients are available
[09:42] <gnomefreak> gui clients need the mouse :(
[09:42] <zipper_> Tm_T, me neither. I do like good looking, high res, antialiased text
[09:42] <Kr4t05> I'm having problems getting my grub back.
[09:42] <mulder> looks like gnenview is responsible
[09:42] <Tm_T> zipper_: have you ever tried to irc with Konvi in over 50 channels?
[09:42] <fritsch> zipper_: you can run irssi in a screen and resume from everywhere (university, etc.)
[09:42] <zipper_> gnomefreak, depends which one you're using. LostIRC doesnt require a mouse at all afaik
[09:43] <Kr4t05> I'm in the grub prompt, and when I type root (hd0,0) it tells me the device doesn't exhist.
[09:43] <zipper_> Tm_T, 50 channels? Why would you want to join that many anyway?
[09:43] <Kr4t05> hd0,0 is /dev/hda1/, right?
[09:43] <zipper_> fritsch, sure, but you could just as easily setup a bnc to do that, and still have the ability to resume it anywhere
[09:43] <Tm_T> zipper_: err, I just happen to be sometimes...
[09:43] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[09:43] <gnomefreak> true it doesnt last time i used it but i have everything in terminal my 20 irc channels my bash term(s)
[09:44] <fritsch> zipper_: a bit slow, or?
[09:44] <dein> but he talks like a gentleman, like you imagined him, when you were youuung
[09:44] <gnomefreak> oh and some really nice themes out there for irssi
[09:44] <zipper_> fritsch, slow? Why?
[09:44] <mulder> ok I give up. I go back to windows when I can manage things. thanks for the help guys
[09:44] <fritsch> zipper_: you mean vnc connection?
[09:44] <DaSkreech> mulder: What do you need help with?
[09:44] <fritsch> zipper_: more slow than just a shell
[09:44] <MasterEvilAce> anyway to set a script to run w/ a certain keypress?
[09:44] <Tm_T> zipper_: anyway, gui-client doesn't offer anything to me I should switch over
[09:44] <zipper_> fritsch, no, i mean an irc bouncer
[09:44] <dein> whats the problem mulder?
[09:44] <fritsch> zipper_: what`s that?
[09:45] <gan|y|med> hello
[09:45] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: bulky and annoying = gui-clients
[09:45] <zipper_> Tm_T, well, luckily there's something for all of us :)... i guess it's just a matter of personal preferences
[09:45] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: cloumsy mostly :)
[09:45] <Tm_T> zipper_: yup
[09:45] <gan|y|med> anybody here who could help me with initng?
[09:45] <gnomefreak> that too
[09:45] <mulder> I need to have my duo core aspire running fine with Kubuntu. Only one cpu is recognized, res is crap and slow and I can't get updates and packages
[09:45] <DaSkreech> mulder: You need a new kernel
[09:45] <fritsch> mulder: which kernel is installed?
[09:45] <mulder> I know,
[09:46] <nonex> People how to make what the desktop was as in windows 2 times pressing windows and so on opened?
[09:46] <Tm_T> behave well, I'm going to sleep ->
[09:46] <zipper_> fritsch, something that makes you able to be online at all times, and resume the connection at any point from any irc client. Thats roughly what an irc bouncer is
[09:46] <mulder> I think it is 386
[09:46] <DaSkreech> mulder: Lets fix the no packages first
[09:46] <DaSkreech>  Can You pastebin your sources?
[09:46] <fritsch> mulder: try the linux-image-686?
[09:46] <bigb> i need help, my screen seems to freeze for a milisecond once per second, so i can't play games
[09:46] <DaSkreech> fritsch: he can't get packages
[09:46] <nonex> ~~~~~~~~~People how to make what the desktop was as in windows 2 times pressing windows and so on opened?~~~~~~~~~
[09:46] <DaSkreech> That's the bigger issue
[09:46] <fritsch> DaSkreech: why not? he has internet?
[09:46] <mulder> I do yes
[09:46] <DaSkreech> fritsch: He's talking to us. He has internet
[09:46] <mulder> otherwise I wouldn't be here
[09:47] <waspius> can someone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20697  ?
[09:47] <mulder> konqueror works fine
[09:47] <mulder> I browse and all that
[09:47] <fritsch> mulder: why can`t he get packages?
[09:47] <DaSkreech> mulder: What happens when you try to get packages?
[09:47] <fritsch> mulder: did you setup a proxy?
[09:47] <zipper_> fritsch, my guess is his sources.list is messed up
[09:47] <mulder> nope
[09:47] <mulder> haven't changed anything
[09:47] <fritsch> mulder: do sudo apt-get update
[09:47] <zipper_> guess not then
[09:48] <fritsch> mulder: what is reported
[09:48] <mulder> same xp pro no problemconnection running under
[09:48] <DaSkreech> waspius: join #kubuntu-devel
[09:48] <DaSkreech> waspius: I think they have a deb for that
[09:48] <waspius> DaSkreech: ok thnx
[09:48] <fritsch> mulder: what does sudo apt-get update say?
[09:50] <bigb> i need help, my screen seems to freeze for a milisecond once per second, so i can't play games
[09:50] <mulder> )% [connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0]  [Connecting to security.ubunty.com (1.0.0.0)] 
[09:50] <fritsch> mulder: cool ;-)
[09:50] <mulder> 0%
[09:50] <mulder> and stays there
[09:50] <fritsch> mulder: what did you configure as proxy in konqueror?
[09:50] <fritsch> mulder: CTRL C it
[09:50] <CVirus> how can I start amarok from command line without all that output it spits ?
[09:51] <gnomefreak> CVirus: cant really
[09:51] <fritsch> mulder: try export http_proxy="YOURPROXY:PORT"
[09:51] <fritsch> mulder: after that sudo apt-get update
[09:51] <mulder> hold on
[09:51] <mulder> ctrl c where?
[09:51] <fritsch> mulder: stop the apt-get update process
[09:51] <gnomefreak> CVirus: you can make a icon for it so you click the icona nd it launches
[09:51] <fritsch> mulder: first of all, did you configure a proxy in kde?
[09:52] <mulder> nope
[09:52] <mulder> did nothing
[09:52] <fritsch> mulder: lol
[09:52] <mulder> :-)
[09:52] <fritsch> mulder: he cannot resolv archive.ubuntu.com
[09:52] <mulder> honest hey
[09:52] <fritsch> mulder: what does the command: export |grep -i proxy say?
[09:53] <paul_> hi, glxgears isnt printing out any frame rate, just wondering why?
[09:53] <bigb> is there a kubuntu spanish channel?
[09:53] <Darkkish> #kubuntu_es ?
[09:53] <Darkkish> is that spanish?
[09:53] <gnomefreak> bigb: /j #kubuntu-es
[09:53] <mulder> in the konsole?
[09:53] <bigb> thanks
[09:53] <fritsch> paul_: zless /usr/share/doc/mesa-utils/*Debian*gz ...
[09:53] <brk3> fritsch: ?
[09:54] <CVirus> gnomefreak: well .. I'm writting a python program ... cant do that
[09:54] <fritsch> brk3: this writes about the changes in glxgears an the additional parametres
[09:54] <fritsch> mulder: yes in the console
[09:54] <gnomefreak> CVirus: try #python :)
[09:54] <mulder> nothing
[09:54] <brk3> fritsch: should it not show it in the konsole though?
[09:54] <charles1952> Hello all...slight problem here and need some help. I did an install of Firefox (latest version 1.5.6), then install Java runtime for Firefox, EN help files. Firefox loads okay, but I get a "can not connect to server" error msg. each time I try to connect to webpages. I have no proxies. Could anyone suggest a remedy?
[09:54] <mulder> it gives me my name again
[09:54] <CVirus> gnomefreak: Thanks
[09:54] <gnomefreak> CVirus: you have to find an element that will kill the verbose output
[09:54] <fritsch> brk3: just read the changelog (with the command above)
[09:54] <mulder> is it command....or just the rest?
[09:55] <fritsch> brk3: it was "patched" out by Daniel Stone
[09:55] <CVirus> gnomefreak: thats what I need
[09:55] <fritsch> mulder: try ping archive.ubuntu.com
[09:55] <fritsch> mulder: what is happening?
[09:55] <brk3> fritsch: cheers its working
[09:55] <mulder> I get a ping yes
[09:55] <fritsch> mulder: cool
[09:55] <fritsch> mulder: now try ping gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:56] <mulder> same
[09:56] <fritsch> !pastebin
[09:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:56] <brk3> one other problem, the sound volume is very low and the master is definatly full, anything i can tr?
[09:56] <mulder> a lot of pingy pings
[09:56] <fritsch> mulder: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in the pastebin
[09:56] <fritsch> mulder: i`look into it
[09:56] <mulder> how can I do thatp please?
[09:57] <fritsch> !pastebin > mulder
[09:57] <fritsch> mulder: look above
[09:57] <fritsch> mulder: what is in /etc/apt/apt.conf ?
[09:59] <mulder> what do i have to type Fritsch ?
[09:59] <fritsch> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:59] <fritsch> mulder: go to this url and paste:
[09:59] <fritsch> mulder: /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:59] <fritsch> mulder: and /etc/apt/apt.conf
[09:59] <bigb> i need help, my screen seems to freeze during a milisecond once per second(even in desktop), so i can't play games
[10:00] <fritsch> bigb: does "top" say sth. with 100 % CPU
[10:00] <DaSkreech> fritsch: He can't resolve the server? Can he ping it?
[10:00] <fritsch> bigb: just go to a terminal and start top
[10:00] <fritsch> DaSkreech: yes he can
[10:00] <TheHighChild> Any folks here use Kontact?
[10:00] <fritsch> DaSkreech: an he has no proxy
[10:00] <mulder> bash: /etc/apt/apt.conf: Permission denied I get this
[10:00] <mulder> is the right command?
[10:00] <gnomefreak> mulder: use sudo
[10:01] <gnomefreak> sudo /etc/apt/apt.conf
[10:01] <fritsch> mulder: sudo cat /etc/apt/apt.conf
[10:01] <mulder> remember I am an absolute beginner
[10:01] <fritsch> mulder: i do, okay
[10:01] <fritsch> mulder: do: sudo cat /etc/apt/apt.conf is there sth. written about Acquiere:http::Proxy
[10:01] <mulder> I have this Acquire::http::Proxy "false";
[10:02] <fritsch> mulder: okay
[10:02] <bigb> fritsch: cpu 17%
[10:02] <fritsch> mulder: run: sudo apt-get update
[10:02] <Darkkish> hey is anyone in here using nvidia graphics drivers with a 6600GT?
[10:02] <fritsch> bigb: mmmh no "idea" then ... just let it run in the background and look from time to time
[10:02] <mulder> I get the same 0% thingey that I had before
[10:03] <fritsch> Darkkish: it`s me (hiding)
[10:03] <ganymed_> anybody here who could help me with initng?
[10:03] <fritsch> mulder: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list in the pastebin, as written above
[10:03] <farous> mulder: is your pc have live internet connection
[10:03] <fritsch> farous: he talks to us :-)
[10:04] <farous> fritsch: so. another pc :)
[10:04] <farous> have to check
[10:04] <Darkkish> bbl
[10:04] <charles1952> Hellp! slight problem here and need some help. I did an install of Firefox (latest version 1.5.6), then installed Java runtime for Firefox, & the EN help files. Firefox loads okay, but I get a "can not connect to server" error msg. each time I try to connect to webpages. I have no proxies. Could anyone suggest a fix? :-{
[10:04] <fritsch> farous: ah! good point
[10:04] <mulder> I am on a wireless
[10:04] <Kr4t05> How do I add a Windows entry to my grub menu?
[10:04] <fritsch> mulder: you are talking with us from the PC which cannot do sudo apt-get update?
[10:04] <mulder> yes sir
[10:05] <fritsch> mulder: ah :-) not so formal - perhaps i am even younger than you
[10:05] <fritsch> !pastebin
[10:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:05] <fritsch> mulder: do kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:05] <fritsch> mulder: copy everything and paste it in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:05] <fritsch> mulder: click on send and give us the url
[10:06] <mulder> kate does the same as gnenview...slow everything!!!
[10:06] <mulder> geez can't move the mouse
[10:06] <fritsch> mulder: does not matter, copy the text and paste
[10:06] <farous> mulder: in a term cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:06] <fritsch> mulder: :-) I think you are on vesa
[10:07] <fritsch> farous: if he cats it he cannot paste it online :-)
[10:07] <fritsch> farous: so i thought of kate
[10:07] <farous> fritsch: he can copy and paste from the screen :)
[10:07] <mulder> kate won't open
[10:07] <farous> and from the konsle
[10:07] <mulder> no pun intended
[10:07] <fritsch> mulder: do what farous said
[10:07] <fritsch> mulder: sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:07] <mulder> the fast and the farous!
[10:08] <mulder> ok will do
[10:08] <fritsch> mulder: mark everything with the mouse and paste it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:08] <fritsch> mulder: in linux you can just mark and then paste (without CTRL C and CTRL V)
[10:08] <farous> fritsch: if something is hogging his sys did you try top to see what is it
[10:08] <intelikey> could i trubble someone to post the output of ls -l /dev/psaux  please
[10:09] <fritsch> farous: he just cant do sudo apt-get update
[10:09] <fritsch> farous: lets fix this problem first
[10:09] <mulder> i pasted what I had
[10:09] <fritsch> okay, give me the url
[10:09] <mulder> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20699
[10:09] <fritsch> mulder: mom
[10:09] <farous> intelikey: am afraid running debian here now. if it is the same i can send it to you
[10:09] <mulder> she is ok don't worry
[10:10] <intelikey> farous yes it's the same  i just need the major and minors
[10:10] <mulder> me on the other hand....
[10:10] <Kr4t05> How do I add an entry for Windows XP to my GRUB menu?
[10:10] <fritsch> mulder: please paste the output of: "sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:10] <mulder> hello intel
[10:10] <farous> crw-rw---- 1 root root 10, 1 2006-08-15 08:03 /dev/psaux
[10:10] <ganymed_> so linux has damaged my battery (lasted only 10 month). is this possible?
[10:10] <intelikey> 10 1 thank you farous
[10:10] <farous> ur welcome
[10:11] <fritsch> mulder: got it?
[10:11] <farous> ganymed_: how come linux did that. have it here never had a prob like that
[10:11] <bigb> i have problems with my nvidia, wich channel should i check?
[10:12] <mulder> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20700
[10:12] <fritsch> bigb: in which way problems, i run your card ...
[10:12] <mulder> why gnenview and kate are making the system sluggish?
[10:12] <ganymed_> well, i have a decent reason to believe it "can". any ideas about how to prevent it?
[10:12] <Kr4t05> I suppose you people don't really want me adding a GRUB entry for Windows, do you? :P
[10:13] <farous> Kr4t05: lol :)
[10:13] <gnomefreak> fritsch: take a look at bug #56503 might give you a little help with mulder
[10:13] <fritsch> gnomefreak: cool, thx - i`ll have a look
[10:14] <fritsch> mulder: so far everything perfectly fine :-)
[10:14] <bigb> fritsch: i'm using the last drivers correctly, my card is XFX 5200, but the screen is not flowing smoothly
[10:14] <fritsch> mulder: do the floowing
[10:15] <fritsch> bigb: sorry, don`t know sth. about this problem
[10:15] <fritsch> mulder: sudo vim /etc/apt/proxy.conf
[10:15] <ganymed_> how can i make ksensors show me any voltage params?
[10:15] <bigb> fritsch: ok, don't worry
[10:15] <fritsch> mulder: move with your cursor to the Acquire HTTP line
[10:15] <fritsch> mulder: press "dd"
[10:15] <fritsch> mulder: the line sould be deleted
[10:16] <fritsch> mulder: after that press ":wq"
[10:16] <fritsch> mulder: dont forget the ":"
[10:16] <waspius> is there a program that can be put on kashbar or someplace which tells u how much memory is being used and how much disk space u have left??
[10:16] <bigb> fritsch: where can i get some help with that?
[10:16] <fritsch> bigb: try #nvidia (if exists)
[10:17] <fritsch> mulder: you are fine?
[10:17] <mulder> I get this Fritsch when I type the sudo vim...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20701
[10:18] <fritsch> mulder: somebody already accessing /etc/apt/apt.conf
[10:18] <fritsch> mulder: please kill the "kate"
[10:19] <mulder> kate was killed
[10:19] <ganymed_> has nobody tried initng?
[10:19] <fritsch> mulder: retry
[10:19] <fritsch> mulder: /etc/apt/apt.conf is opened, thats the problem
[10:20] <fritsch> mulder: or try: ' echo "APT::Authentication::TrustCDROM "true";" > /etc/apt/apt.conf '
[10:20] <mulder> man I am giving up...i have been trying all day sorting this thing. I have to leave it. Sorry Fritsch
[10:21] <fritsch> mulder: no, the time shall not be wasted
[10:21] <charles1952> Well....I'll return later to see if someone can assist with Firefox...in the meantime, all of you please have a beer on me...BARTENDER!!!
[10:21] <fritsch> mulder: please try my last command, everything between ' '
[10:21] <mulder> I am off for now...need  a breal from all the falied commands
[10:21] <farous> charles1952: what is yoru quest regarding firefox
[10:21] <fritsch> mulder: we get this go :-)
[10:21] <mulder> failed
[10:21] <fritsch> mulder: just 5 minutes
[10:21] <mulder> ok
[10:21] <mulder> what do you need?
[10:21] <fritsch> mulder: ' echo "APT::Authentication::TrustCDROM "true";" > /etc/apt/apt.conf '
[10:21] <bigb> fritsch: i'm using the last drivers correctly, my card is XFX 5200, but the screen is not flowing smoothlycartera
[10:22] <charles1952> Oh! I installed it...everything in the installation went fine. I can open it...
[10:22] <fritsch> mulder: everything between ' '
[10:22] <charles1952> but when I try to connect to webpages I get a "can not connect to server" msg. I have no proxies...and other browser can connect.???
[10:22] <mulder> etc/apt/....
[10:22] <bigb> fritsch: i didn't mean to sent you that
[10:23] <farous> charles1952: you installed from the repos right. that is a strange err
[10:23] <mulder> Ok I am off...will try later on maybe. Thanks big time Fritsch
[10:23] <charles1952> Yup...standard repos.
[10:24] <mulder> geez I thought it would be a bit easier..
[10:24] <fritsch> :-(
[10:24] <fritsch> every start is hard, such a bug is f*ck
[10:24] <charles1952> farous: and i set the "connections setting in FF to "Cannect directly to Internet"
[10:24] <farous> charles1952: did you put anything in the bookmarks. I mean is it safe to reset it. remove the folder .mozilla
[10:25] <charles1952> farous: Yes...its safe to remove.
[10:25] <heinkel_111> can someone help me a little bit? i have a router with 2 pcs running kubuntu connected; this one, and another one
[10:25] <farous> charles1952: rm -rf .mozilla
[10:25] <fritsch> bigb: what does cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status say?
[10:25] <farous> kill all firefox first
[10:25] <heinkel_111> but it seems like the other computer won't recognize the router?
[10:26] <heinkel_111> i set the routes to same value as for this computer
[10:26] <charles1952> farous: DOne
[10:26] <heinkel_111> also dns server is connected similarly
[10:26] <farous> charles1952: in a terminal try firefox gmail.com
[10:26] <heinkel_111> but the other comp just son't seem to connect to router?
[10:26] <farous> see if there are any error messages
[10:26] <heinkel_111> doesn't
[10:27] <farous> heinkel_111: did you check the security on the router. like mac sec
[10:27] <charles1952> farous: "foxfire not found"
[10:27] <heinkel_111> no, what would that do?
[10:27] <farous> charles1952: in a terminal try firefox gmail.com
[10:27] <farous> firefox not foxfire
[10:27] <heinkel_111> faarous, the router is recognized when i boot that comp using winxp32
[10:27] <heinkel_111> farous:
[10:28] <farous> heinkel_111: ok
[10:28] <farous> can you ping the router ip
[10:28] <farous> heinkel_111: ok what type of connect wireless wired
[10:28] <heinkel_111> farous: it is wired
[10:28] <TheHighChild> anyone know how to fix frequent kontact/kmail crashes?
[10:29] <charles1952> farous: Okay...I got tons of error msgs...but it opened an instance of firefox - blank page.
[10:29] <heinkel_111> farous: ping gives me network is unreachable reply
[10:29] <farous> heinkel_111: did you set the name server to the router ip in /etc/resolv.conf
[10:30] <heinkel_111> farous: no....why should i?
[10:30] <charles1952> (sorry 'bout the foxfire...brain is scrambled :-}
[10:30] <farous> charles1952: past the error messages on the pastebin
[10:30] <charles1952> okay
[10:30] <heinkel_111> farous: on this computer name server is remote adresses
[10:30] <farous> heinkel_111: do you use dhcp
[10:30] <milos> I need help with the sound. Weird thing, when I poweron the machine and boot the Dapper, the sound works for first several minutes (for example). After that it suddenly stops working completly. I cannot play any audio file, not with arts (amarok,mplayer) or with alsa (mplayer, for example). Applications keep playing, but nothing comes out. Perhaps I should note that I've installed the smartlink drivers for modem. Can anyone help me?
[10:31] <heinkel_111> farous: in theory yes, but i think there might be a problem with it so that it does not start?
[10:31] <heinkel_111> run kubuntu installer from disk again?
[10:31] <farous> heinkel_111: i use static ip here. that is why
[10:32] <charles1952> farous:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20702
[10:32] <heinkel_111> machine was orginally installed with kubuntu in offline mode
[10:32] <farous> did not use dhcp for quite long time
[10:32] <heinkel_111> so there was no network config in setup
[10:32] <fritsch> heinkel_111: can you paste bin your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:33] <heinkel_111> fritsch...no
[10:33] <heinkel_111> because that computer can't access the web
[10:33] <fritsch> heinkel_111: okay, yes
[10:33] <fritsch> heinkel_111: *g*
[10:34] <farous> charles1952: can not know i would recommend reinstalling firefox. sudo aptitude reinstall firefox
[10:34] <fritsch> heinkel_111: just look if there are 2 lines:
[10:34] <fritsch> heinkel_111: auto eth0
[10:34] <fritsch> heinkel_111: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[10:35] <charles1952> farous: Okay thanks for all the help...I'll try that next and return if there continues to be problems...Here is the beer I promised :-}
[10:35] <fritsch> heinkel_111: this sould get up your eth0 device with dhcp
[10:35] <heinkel_111> fritsch: it says auto eth1 in the first of those
[10:35] <heinkel_111> that may be the explanation maybe?
[10:35] <fritsch> heinkel_111: is eth1 the correct one? with the cable in?
[10:35] <fritsch> heinkel_111: mmmh no
[10:35] <farous> thanx: i accept though i do not drink beer :)
[10:35] <heinkel_111> fritsch: no should be eth0
[10:35] <fritsch> heinkel_111: good, so change it
[10:35] <heinkel_111> i will, and reboot, reporting back in 5 ins
[10:36] <farous> heinkel_111: no reboot
[10:36] <heinkel_111> minutes
[10:36] <farous> heinkel_111: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:36] <fritsch> heinkel_111: change all eth1 to eth0
[10:36] <fritsch> heinkel_111: not only the "auto" one
[10:36] <Darkkish> sudo aptitude update not working
[10:36] <farous> heinkel_111: that will restart the net after fixing it
[10:36] <fritsch> heinkel_111: only reboot a linux after kernel upgrade :-)
[10:37] <cryptom> Hi all, what is the most powerful and configurable tool for linux laptop users, that often use different networks (pcmcia, builtin, wlan, dhcp but also static, proxy, noproxy, ipsec but on some places not, ...)? laptop-net, divine, whereami, network-manager? Something else?
[10:37] <fritsch> cryptom: use networkmanager and knetworkmanager
[10:37] <fritsch> cryptom: network-manager knetworkmanager and vpnc
[10:37] <fritsch> cryptom: not perfect, but sometimes working
[10:38] <zipper> cryptom, i use wireless assistant, but i only have a build-in wireless card, couldn't tell if it's good for you, but you might want to check it out
[10:38] <cryptom> fritsch, what does vpnc?
[10:38] <farous> cryptom: network-manager last time i checked had probs with static ip
[10:38] <fritsch> cryptom: it establishes ipsec connections
[10:38] <heinkel_111> fritsch: i may have been too quick...there are auto eth1 and auto eth0 lines
[10:39] <fritsch> heinkel_111: please look for iface eth0 inet dhcp and iface eth1 inet dhcp
[10:39] <fritsch> heinkel_111: no the auto was the problem ...
[10:39] <cryptom> fritsch, I use strongswan, but I just want to call it, when really necessary
[10:39] <milos> I need help with the sound. Weird thing, when I poweron the machine and boot the Dapper, the sound works for first several minutes (for example). After that it suddenly stops working completly. I cannot play any audio file, not with arts (amarok,mplayer) or with alsa (mplayer, for example). Applications keep playing, but nothing comes out. Perhaps I should note that I've installed the smartlink drivers for modem. Can anyone help me?
[10:39] <Darkkish> I <3 adept
[10:39] <Darkkish> windows needs something like adept
[10:39] <heinkel_111> fritsch: found, both of them, and auto is one both
[10:39] <waspius> goodnight thanx for th help
[10:39] <fritsch> the dhcp, too?
[10:39] <DaSkreech> Darkkish: Bittorrent?
[10:40] <Darkkish> haha
[10:40] <Darkkish> i guess
[10:40] <cryptom> I hate to change proxy settings on all browsers twice a day...
[10:40] <Darkkish> but its not the same
[10:40] <fritsch> cryptom: yes, me too :-(
[10:40] <Darkkish> adept has a nice finite list
[10:40] <DaSkreech> milos: I take it that it worked before installing the drivers?
[10:40] <cryptom> is network manager able to change that as well?
[10:40] <heinkel_111> fritsch: auto eth0 and auto eth1 yes
[10:40] <fritsch> heinkel_111: grrr *G*
[10:40] <fritsch> heinkel_111: look for the lines iface eth0 inet dhcp
[10:40] <fritsch> "iface eth0 inet dhcp" and "iface eth1 inet dhcp"
[10:41] <heinkel_111> both present
[10:41] <milos> DaSkreech: It worked, but I'm not quite sure
[10:41] <fritsch> heinkel_111: cool
[10:41] <obf213> yo is frostwire not in respositories
[10:41] <fritsch> heinkel_111: what does route -n say?
[10:41] <cryptom> fritsch, I dont find a recent documentation or project website about laptop-net, is it still in development?
[10:41] <fritsch> heinkel_111: what does cat /etc/resolv.conf say?
[10:41] <milos> DaSkreech: That's beacuse the mp3 didn't work before I downloaded the needed packages, so I didn't pay much attention to it.
[10:41] <fritsch> crabstic: mmmh don`t know of laptop-net, sorry
[10:42] <heinkel_111> fritsch: route -n: looks like an empty table
[10:42] <DaSkreech> milos: :-)
[10:42] <obf213> !frostwire
[10:42] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[10:42] <fritsch> heinkel_111: okay, please run dhlient eth0
[10:42] <DaSkreech> You still have sound devices just no sound?
[10:42] <Darkkish> yeah the next thing i need to do is install mp3 support
[10:42] <fritsch> heinkel_111: sudo dhclient eth0 what is happening?
[10:43] <milos> Yap
[10:43] <milos> Yup
[10:43] <milos> I get the sound only tens of seconds after the login
[10:43] <milos> Then, it simply disappears
[10:43] <psb154> night
[10:43] <fritsch> milos: perhaps kmix mutes it for you
[10:44] <milos> No, it doesn't
[10:44] <fritsch> milos: check if the volume is zero
[10:44] <fritsch> milos: check also in a terminal with "alsamixer"
[10:44] <milos> Checked that one too
[10:44] <fritsch> milos: which soundcard?
[10:44] <fritsch> milos: intel8x0?
[10:44] <heinkel_111> fritsch: dhclient reports: Listening, sending, seinding,DHCPDISCOVER on port 67 intervals 6,19,14,21,11 ----no DHCPOFFERS received
[10:44] <milos> It's some AC97 shit
[10:45] <zipper> I want to remove some bluetooth tools which i'm never going to use. That requires me to remove kubuntu-desktop, should this cause any problems?
[10:45] <fritsch> heinkel_111: now please do: sudo dhclient eth1
[10:45] <farous> milos: lsof /dev/dsp
[10:45] <Kr4t05> Does anyone here dual-boot?
[10:45] <milos> farous: nothing
[10:46] <farous> milos: grest nothing is using the oss device
[10:46] <heinkel_111> fritsch: which adress should the DHCPDISCOVER call go to?
[10:46] <Kr4t05> I need help adding a Windows option to my GRUB menu, can anyone help me out?
[10:46] <heinkel_111> it goes to 255.255.255.255
[10:47] <fritsch> heinkel_111: its okay
[10:47] <fritsch> does eth1 get an ip?
[10:47] <heinkel_111> fritsch: same reply as on eth0, basically, no DHCPOFFERS
[10:47] <farous> milos:  aplay /usr/share/sounds/gaim/leave.wav
[10:47] <fritsch> heinkel_111: okay pleas look if you network cable is plugged in!
[10:47] <fritsch> heinkel_111: seems like it is not plugged in
[10:47] <DaSkreech> farous: Ahhh Gaim@!
[10:47] <fritsch> heinkel_111: or your router does not give you an adress
[10:47] <farous> DaSkreech: any sound file is all i need :)
[10:48] <DaSkreech> I know. Just seemed strange to pick Gaim for all random sounds
[10:48] <milos> Just a moment, I'm going to restart the machine, I played with modprobe, and probably messed something up.
[10:49] <farous> forgot i am in kubuntu room but i really prefer gaim
[10:49] <farous> running both kde and gnome here. picking up the applications i like from both :)
[10:49] <DaSkreech> farous: Me too but using non standard applications esp directly after install isn't going to help the person
[10:50] <Darkkish> lol i installed gnome
[10:50] <obf213> hey i just installed frostwire but i can seem to open it
[10:50] <DaSkreech> obf213: You have Java?
[10:50] <obf213> its in my menu under internte tbut when i double click i see nothing
[10:50] <obf213> yes
[10:50] <DaSkreech> obf213: open it from the Command line. You'll get an error
[10:50] <obf213> i have sun java webstart?
[10:50] <Darkkish> why is linux using ALL of my ram?
[10:51] <obf213> DaSkreech I get nothing
[10:51] <fritsch> Darkkish: why not?
[10:51] <obf213> it just closes the command line
[10:51] <fritsch> Darkkish: "free" its useless
[10:51] <DaSkreech> What? it closes the command line?
[10:51] <farous> DaSkreech: most if it is cach to speed up your appl
[10:51] <Darkkish> fritsch:  what?
[10:51] <DaSkreech> Darkkish: Using all of your RAM is good
[10:51] <milos> Ok, a friend of mine needs to use the phone, I'll be back in a minute. Please wait:)
[10:51] <DaSkreech> Why did you put it in if not to use
[10:51] <Darkkish> hmm
[10:52] <DaSkreech> milos: Ok :)
[10:52] <Darkkish> but i don't ahve any programs open
[10:52] <Darkkish> at all
[10:52] <Darkkish> shouldn't some of it be free
[10:52] <obf213> DaSkreech your right, i need to upgrade to JRE 1.4
[10:52] <fritsch> Darkkish: look with top, if really sth. is eating it up
[10:52] <DaSkreech> obf213: What java did you install?
[10:52] <fritsch> Darkkish: press "M" in top, to get it sort by memory usage
[10:53] <DaSkreech> Darkkish: When you open a application it will open up the RAM for it
[10:53] <fritsch> heinkel_111: still there?
[10:53] <Darkkish> xorg
[10:53] <fritsch> heinkel_111: found your cable not connected
[10:53] <zipper> oh my god... amarok actually is quite nice
[10:53] <Darkkish> is using 200M
[10:53] <fritsch> heinkel_111: not good, this is not good
[10:53] <fritsch> heinkel_111: what graphics driver?
[10:53] <heinkel_111> fritsch: yes i am still here
[10:53] <heinkel_111> hang on
[10:53] <DaSkreech> zipper:  :-D
[10:54] <DaSkreech> waspius: Welcome back
[10:54] <heinkel_112> hello
[10:54] <fritsch> Darkkish: sorry, not good - what graphics driver
[10:54] <zipper> DaSkreech, i've always been using xmms, but i'll give amarok a real try now
[10:54] <fritsch> heinkel_112: lol?
[10:54] <fritsch> heinkel_112: it was the cable?
[10:54] <heinkel_112> fritsch: this is me in opera after rebooting to windows
[10:54] <obf213> DaSkreech: I saw the error in the command line but i do have sun java installed at a more recent version than needed
[10:54] <fritsch> heinkel_112: ah okay
[10:54] <obf213> for some reason it cant fidn it or something
[10:54] <fritsch> heinkel_112: please look at you IP Configuration
[10:54] <DaSkreech> obf213: can You run sudo update-alternatives java ?
[10:54] <heinkel_112> fritsch: network cable proven? :P
[10:54] <fritsch> heinkel_112: if you set it up "non auto"
[10:55] <DaSkreech> and change to the right java
[10:55] <fritsch> heinkel_112: so - 2 chances_
[10:55] <Darkkish> i only have 32MB freespace and i have almost no programs open
[10:55] <fritsch> heinkel_112: first: your router does not dhcp
[10:55] <heinkel_111> fritsch: where to look?
[10:55] <fritsch> heinkel_112: Righ Click on Network Connection
[10:55] <obf213> DaSkreech im about to
[10:55] <fritsch> Darkkish: which graphics driver?
[10:55] <zipper> !nvidia
[10:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:56] <Darkkish> fritsch: the defaults
[10:56] <fritsch> Darkkish: argh :-( this depends on the system
[10:56] <Darkkish> :(
[10:56] <Darkkish> brb
[10:56] <Darkkish> logging to kde
[10:56] <obf213> DaSkreech: got it thanks
[10:56] <heinkel_111> fritsch: use heinkel_111 ...then i get an audio when you msg here
[10:56] <fritsch> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Driver
[10:56] <DaSkreech> obf213: Works now?
[10:56] <fritsch> heinkel_111: okay
[10:56] <DaSkreech> obf213: Try Alt+Space
[10:57] <fritsch> heinkel_111: you looked into your network settings?
[10:57] <obf213> DaSkreech: it works
[10:57] <DaSkreech> obf213: Sweet :-)
[10:57] <heinkel_111> fritsch: i am trying to do that yes, but i am in windows right now, i am not so fast
[10:58] <Darkkish> k
[10:58] <Darkkish> clean logon
[10:58] <fritsch> heinkel_111: no problem, i think you have configured your things statically here
[10:58] <Darkkish> only thing open us konversation
[10:58] <fritsch> Darkkish:  you are running dapper?
[10:58] <Darkkish> Memory: 865,012 KB used, 171,084 KB free
[10:58] <Darkkish> yes
[10:59] <fritsch> Darkkish: okay cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Driver
[10:59] <farous> Darkkish: type free to see how much in cach
[10:59] <fritsch> Darkkish: perhaps you use vesa here or we can finetune anything
[11:00] <Darkkish> i don't understand fritsch
[11:00] <fritsch> Darkkish: do the following command "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Driver"
[11:00] <Darkkish> yeah?
[11:00] <fritsch> Darkkish: what does it say?
[11:00] <zipper> I'm trying to install nvidia drivers, and as usual i'm using the wiki guide for doing so. However, i keep on getting an error i've never seen before : http://pastebin.dk/index.php?show=2050. Anyone knows whats wrong?
[11:01] <fritsch> zipper: this is normal (TM)
[11:01] <fritsch> zipper: because of the synaptics touchpad settings in xorg.conf
[11:01] <fritsch> zipper: because of the "painting" thing i mean
[11:01] <zipper> oh?
[11:02] <fritsch> zipper: there is a device section for graphics tablette, if you restart kdm, then you should use nivia i think
[11:03] <zipper> fritsch, but i'm not, tried that already. By the way, when i try running glxgears, i get informed that "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." even though the GLX module should be loaded according to xorg.conf
[11:03] <fritsch> zipper: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:04] <zipper> fritsch, as i said earlier, i was following the wiki guide, so i already got nvidia-glx installed
[11:05] <fritsch> zipper: please try: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[11:05] <fritsch> zipper: just for be sure
[11:05] <zipper> already got that one as well
[11:05] <zipper> but i'll try it just to be sure
[11:05] <zipper> uuh
[11:05] <fritsch> :-)
[11:06] <zipper> something interresting here
[11:06] <zipper> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686
[11:06] <fritsch> tell
[11:06] <zipper> hmm, so if you want to use SMP, you cant get the restricted modules?
[11:06] <fritsch> try sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686
[11:07] <zipper> ehrm
[11:07] <zipper> i just told you, that package doesnt exist
[11:07] <fritsch> zipper: sudo apt-get update
[11:08] <fritsch> zipper: apt-cache search linux-restricted |grep 686
[11:08] <farous> zipper i think you need to update your repos
[11:08] <farous> !repos > zipper
[11:10] <StrudelNinja__> whenever I play an mp3 in amaroK it says it's done immediately and nothing plays
[11:10] <fritsch> !RestrictedFormat
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about RestrictedFormat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <fritsch> !RestrictedFormat > StrudelNinja
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about RestrictedFormat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <DaSkreech> !mp3 > StrudelNinja
[11:11] <fritsch> !RestrictedFormats > StrudelNinja
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about RestrictedFormats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <fritsch> wargh
[11:11] <DaSkreech> fritsch: I win :)
[11:11] <StrudelNinja> huh
[11:11] <fritsch> hehe
[11:11] <StrudelNinja> ah I see
[11:12] <DaSkreech> :-) If you have more questions We'll be happy to make a bot talk to you again ;-)
[11:12] <willnapier> Hi everyone I'm trying to compile a .sh -  how do I do that in kubuntu?
[11:12] <zipper> farous, i appriciate your help, but i already know this. The problem is, the restricted modules package i need, apparently doesnt exist. I installed a kernel from the repositories in order to enable dual-core (SMP)
[11:12] <DaSkreech> willnapier: You don't .. Ever
[11:12] <fritsch> zipper: what does uname -r say?
[11:13] <fritsch> zipper: ah okay, know it from above :-)
[11:13] <willnapier> hi DaSkreech
[11:13] <farous> zipper: ah ok :)
[11:13] <DaSkreech> willnapier: You want to run a .sh
[11:13] <heinkel_111> fritsch: i am going to try to configure the network using dhcp after disconnecting this machine...back in 5 minutes
[11:13] <willnapier> ok I'm trying to get a latest version of kmobiletools
[11:14] <willnapier> it tells me to run compile-kmobiletools.sh
[11:14] <DaSkreech> willnapier: and you have that file?
[11:14] <willnapier> and I wondered how to do this (or is it inadvisable?
[11:14] <willnapier> I have that file
[11:14] <DaSkreech> willnapier: If it says to do it ... :)
[11:14] <willnapier> hehe
[11:14] <willnapier> ok
[11:14] <DaSkreech> Are you in the folder with it?
[11:14] <willnapier> so how do I do it?
[11:14] <willnapier> yes
[11:14] <farous> zipper: is it nividia or ati
[11:14] <DaSkreech> Either in konqueror or in the command line?
[11:14] <willnapier> I'm in a terminal
[11:14] <fritsch> zipper: you have this deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[11:15] <fritsch> zipper: restricted is important
[11:15] <DaSkreech> willnapier:type ./compile-kmobiletools.sh
[11:15] <zipper> farous, it's nvidia... usually i dont have any trouble installing it, but i guess the new kernel i installed is causing trouble. Perhaps i should be using 2.6.15-23 instead of 2.6.15-25? Seems like there's restricted modules for 15-23
[11:15] <zipper> fritsch, i have all of them, including multiverse and universe
[11:15] <farous> zipper: you can install nividia-kernel-source
[11:15] <farous> then use module-assistant
[11:16] <farous> all you need is the kernel driver for it to work
[11:16] <fritsch> hups ;-)
[11:16] <willnapier> DaSkreech: it says that a command is not found in line 33 - ./admin/cvs.sh
[11:16] <willnapier> it also says 'AUTOCONF NOT FOUND
[11:17] <darkyoshi372> If I set my password to blank, will I get auto-login?
[11:17] <DaSkreech> willnapier:type gcc and tell me what it says
[11:17] <zipper> fritsch, is there a guide for doing it that way?
[11:18] <DaSkreech> darkyoshi372: That's irrelevant
[11:18] <fritsch> zipper: i prefer giving you the online link for your kernel
[11:18] <willnapier> DaSkreech: command not found
[11:18] <DaSkreech> darkyoshi372: What matters is wether you set autologin
[11:18] <fritsch> zipper: what says uname -r
[11:18] <zipper> fritsch, since i've tried to install the drivers directly from nvidia.com, but i cannot do that without the kernel headers/restricted modules
[11:18] <fritsch> zipper: you can
[11:18] <DaSkreech> willnapier: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:18] <zipper> fritsch, 2.6.15-26-686
[11:18] <willnapier> ok
[11:18] <fritsch> zipper: mom
[11:19] <farous> zipper: by the way the linux restricte modules package is in the repos section restricted
[11:20] <darkyoshi372> Thanks, DaSkreech!
[11:20] <link_36p> Does anyone know how to configure kxdocker?
[11:20] <DaSkreech> darkyoshi372: You probably want a password
[11:20] <farous> !info linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686
[11:20] <ubotu> Package linux-restricted-modules-2615-26-686 does not exist in dapper
[11:20] <obf213> can you find itune libaries iwth amarok
[11:20] <obf213> !itunes
[11:20] <ubotu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[11:20] <obf213> lol well nevermind
[11:21] <obf213> !banshee >timi
[11:21] <farous> !info linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686
[11:21] <ubotu> Package linux-restricted-modules-2615-26-686 does not exist in dapper
[11:21] <willnapier> DaSkreech: ok all done, but I tried ./compile-kmobiletools.sh again and got the same error messages
[11:21] <DaSkreech> obf213: the Amarok on the trunk has it
[11:21] <link_36p> Does anyone know how to configure kxdocker?
[11:21] <farous> lol that is stupid
[11:21] <obf213> Da
[11:21] <obf213> DaSkreech: the trunk?
[11:21] <DaSkreech> willnapier: and gcc gives you ?
[11:21] <fritsch> zipper:
[11:21] <DaSkreech> obf213: teh code they are working on now
[11:21] <fritsch> zipper: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686_2.6.15.11-3_i386.deb
[11:21] <obf213> ok
[11:21] <fritsch> zipper: they really do exist
[11:21] <willnapier> DaSkreech: gcc gives 'no input files'
[11:21] <farous> ok take care bye for now
[11:21] <obf213> !banshee >timi
[11:21] <fritsch> zipper: just download it and dpkg -i this one
[11:21] <obf213> !banshee >obf213
[11:22] <DaSkreech> willnapier: ok. Good what does the ./compile-kmobiletools.sh give you?
[11:22] <fritsch> heinkel_111: ?
[11:22] <zipper> fritsch, hmm, how come i cant get it directly from apt-get then?
[11:23] <willnapier> DaSkreech: it is several lines long - how do I show you (it says not to post here)
[11:23] <fritsch> zipper: which apt mirror do you use?
[11:23] <DaSkreech> !paste
[11:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:23] <fritsch> zipper: just download it and install it ...
[11:23] <TheHighChild> Does anyone use Knode?
[11:23] <DaSkreech> Use that website
[11:23] <heinkel_111> fritsch: i tried 1) to run installer again 2) switch plugs at router, so that it should run with same settings as here
[11:23] <zipper> fritsch, i use nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[11:23] <heinkel_111> fritsch: no dhcp
[11:24] <DaSkreech> obf213: I take it you don't want to compile code :-)
[11:24] <zipper> fritsch, i know, and thank you very much for finding that package, but i really want to have it in my repositories
[11:24] <fritsch> heinkel_111: windows uses dhcp? what LAN Card do you use?
[11:24] <obf213> DaSkreech: waht do i have to do
[11:24] <obf213> lol
[11:24] <fritsch> zipper: plese remove every "nl" from your apt sources.list
[11:24] <obf213> can i jut download the source code or whatever
[11:25] <DaSkreech> obf213: Yeah but if you are not comfortable just use banshee for now :)
[11:25] <heinkel_111> it is onboard my Asus M2N-SLI mainboard which has Nvidia 570 chipset
[11:25] <fritsch> zipper: after that: sudo apt-get update and retry
[11:25] <zipper> fritsch, so just archive.ubuntu.com ? Will it automaticly detect which mirror is closest to me or?
[11:25] <fritsch> heinkel_111: could be the problem
[11:25] <fritsch> zipper: yes
[11:25] <willnapier> DaSkreech: it says ./admin/cvs.sh: line 33: --version: command not found
[11:25] <willnapier> DaSkreech: also autoconf not found
[11:25] <zipper> fritsch, sweet, didnt know that
[11:25] <willnapier> DasSkreech: also KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or higher
[11:26] <ubuntu__> hi im new to this
[11:26] <heinkel_112> fritsch: it still seems to work in windows, though
[11:26] <obf213> DaSkreech: its a kernel no?
[11:26] <DaSkreech> well type autoconf --version
[11:26] <heinkel_112> rebooted to windows :P
[11:26] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: Welcome
[11:26] <fritsch> heinkel_111: do lsmod |grep force
[11:26] <obf213> i had to get an smp kernel for my dual core
[11:26] <ubuntu__> kubuntu rules
[11:26] <DaSkreech> obf213: Is whata kernel?
[11:26] <willnapier> DaSkreech: also ./configure: no such file or directory
[11:26] <fritsch> heinkel_111: or try sudo modprobe forcedeth
[11:27] <fritsch> heinkel_111: sudo modprobe forcedeth
[11:27] <heinkel_112> hmm fritsch: i will do that tomorrow..i am giving up for today
[11:27] <milos> I'm back
[11:27] <fritsch> heinkel_111: after that: sudo dhclient eth0
[11:27] <willnapier> DaSkreech: and for make it says 'no targets specified
[11:27] <fritsch> heinkel_112: wargh everybody is giving up today :-(
[11:27] <heinkel_112> thanks for very much assistance
[11:27] <DaSkreech> willnapier: what does autoconf --version say ?
[11:27] <obf213> DaSkreech nvm
[11:27] <fritsch> zipper: working?
[11:27] <willnapier> DaSkreech: it says command not found
[11:28] <fritsch> willnapier: sudo apt-get install autoconf
[11:28] <Darkkish> i finished the problem
[11:28] <Darkkish> fixed
[11:28] <willnapier> DaSkreech: ok done
[11:28] <fritsch> Darkkish: already upgraded
[11:29] <fritsch> willnapier: now what does autoconf --version say?
[11:29] <milos> I tried to play a bit with the sound. First of all, it worked just until a moment ago (and for some longer time), and now it's again off. I don't think it's the modem, since the music worked together with the pppd for some time.
[11:29] <willnapier> DaSkreech: it says 2.59
[11:29] <zipper> fritsch, sorry, being semi-afk here, i'll try it very soon and let you know
[11:31] <willnapier> DaSkreech: but I still get the same error messages, ie KDE requires 2.53 or higher
[11:31] <willnapier> DaSkreech: that is, when I try ./compile-kmobiletools.sh
[11:31] <DaSkreech> Sudo apt-get install autoconf
[11:32] <milos> DaSkreech, are you there?
[11:32] <DaSkreech> milos: I think so
[11:32] <DaSkreech> The Net just died
[11:32] <willnapier> DaSkreech: did that and it says that autoconf is the newest version
[11:33] <milos> I tried to play a bit with the sound. First of all, it worked just until a moment ago (and for some longer time), and now it's again off. I don't think it's the modem, since the music worked together with the pppd for some time.
[11:33] <DaSkreech> willnapier: and autoconf --version doesn't give you anything ?
[11:33] <willnapier> DaSkreech: yes, it gives the 2.59 version
[11:33] <DaSkreech> milos: Ah Ok who was helping you before? They would have more info than me currently
[11:34] <DaSkreech> willnapier: Ah ok Where did you get this script?
[11:34] <willnapier> from the kmobiletools svn
[11:34] <milos> Oh, hell, I can't remeber:)
[11:34] <willnapier> from the nightly
[11:35] <DaSkreech> fritsch: Were you helping milos? :-)
[11:35] <fritsch> DaSkreech: no?
[11:35] <DaSkreech> willnapier: ooer :)
[11:35] <willnapier> hehehe I
[11:35] <DaSkreech> Doh farous?
[11:35] <willnapier> I've never been that brave before
[11:35] <fritsch> DaSkreech: he went for sleep
[11:35] <DaSkreech> Ah.
[11:36] <DaSkreech> Well I'm about to leave so I want to help willnapier not sure I can take on two :-(
[11:36] <milos> Here I go again: I have a weird sound problem with the Kubuntu 6.06. When I log on the machine, it works for some time. Then it suddenly stops working. With modem or without modem, it just stops working. Any ideas?
[11:36] <milos> DaSkreech: No problem
[11:37] <willnapier> DaSkreech: :-)
[11:37] <zecarlos> Gente, instalei o KDE aqui no ubuntu. Agora o gerenciador padro ficou sendo do KDE. Queria voltar ao normal com o gerenciador de inicializao do GNOME
[11:37] <DaSkreech> milos: cool attitude :)
[11:37] <fritsch> milos: do you use an intel8x0?
[11:37] <milos> Ah, it's some via chipset.
[11:37] <milos> How do I check that?
[11:37] <fritsch> milos: lsmod |grep snd
[11:38] <milos> snd_via82xx and ac97
[11:38] <fritsch> milos: i still think sth. is muting you card
[11:38] <milos> No, because it works for some time.
[11:38] <fritsch> milos: because it just "walks" without sound :-)
[11:39] <fritsch> milos: strange
[11:39] <willnapier> DaSkreech: the other part of the error message was that no makefile was found
[11:39] <milos> Master, Master M, Headphones, PCM, etc. are all unmuted.
[11:39] <fritsch> milos: could you check with alsamixer before and after?
[11:39] <milos> In alsamixer
[11:39] <willnapier> DaSkreech: and no targets specified
[11:40] <fritsch> milos: perhaps it enables "Line Jack" or Digital out
[11:40] <milos> In alsamixer or ...?
[11:41] <TheHighChild> Any knode users?
[11:41] <fritsch> milos: yes
[11:42] <milos> I don't see any of such entries.
[11:43] <fritsch> milos: in kmix everything normal?
[11:43] <fritsch> milos: what does dmesg say? some error?
[11:44] <milos> As far as i can tel, there are no errors.
[11:44] <milos> Would the output of dmesg help?
[11:44] <fritsch> in kmix nothing muted
[11:44] <milos> Nope
[11:44] <fritsch> milos, if your soundblaster "gives up" perhaps
[11:45] <willnapier> DaSkreech: there is a note on the website saying that the svn requires qt4 and so you have to 'downgrade'
[11:45] <DaSkreech> Dang
[11:45] <fritsch> milos: sorry, i really do not have an idea
[11:45] <milos> :)
[11:45] <TheHighChild> milos: have you tried typing 'killall artsd' in the konsole and then retrying your sound apps?
[11:45] <milos> Yes, been there
[11:45] <willnapier> DaSkreech: that is, downgrade the admin directory
[11:45] <willnapier> (whatever that means|)
[11:45] <DaSkreech> willnapier: Ha You may want to jump into #kubuntu-devel and get some help with installing a edgy build :-)
[11:45] <milos> It's really, really weird.
[11:46] <Darkkish> it worked
[11:46] <Darkkish> thanks a ton
[11:46] <Darkkish> KDE 3.5.4
[11:46] <fritsch> Darkkish: cool *G* also look at the "new" amarok
[11:46] <willnapier> DaSkreech: yes ok thanks
[11:47] <Darkkish> will do
[11:47] <milos> I might try to reinstall the whole Kubuntu later.
[11:47] <willnapier> #kubuntu-devel
[11:47] <willnapier> oops
[11:47] <Darkkish> the "whole kubnutu"?
[11:47] <charlie_> hey all
[11:47] <DaSkreech> willnapier: try /join #kubuntu-devel
[11:47] <fritsch> milos: mmmh now
[11:47] <TheHighChild> milos: Does the sound work after restarting your X session or only after a reboot?
[11:47] <fritsch> milos: no, i dont think so
[11:47] <willnapier> DaSkreech: thanks!
[11:47] <milos> I think it only works after a poweroff!!
[11:47] <fritsch> milos: which apps do not make sound?
[11:47] <fritsch> just kde apps?
[11:48] <milos> I tried the mplayer with the  -ao alsa too
[11:48] <fritsch> milos: try
[11:48] <zipper> fritsch, hmm, changing my repositories to archive.ubuntu instead of nl.archive.ubuntu didnt change much. I still cannot find restricted-modules-2.6.15-26, only 2.6.15-23
[11:48] <fritsch> zipper: you did apt-get update?
[11:48] <fritsch> zipper: changed the right lines?
[11:48] <zipper> fritsch, ofcourse
[11:49] <milos> Ok, I'm gonna try the reboot option first, to check if the bloody thing works only after the poweroff.
[11:49] <fritsch> zipper: aah i sea
[11:49] <TheHighChild> zipper: I have the same modules you do, also
[11:49] <fritsch> zipper: please just install the -23 version
[11:49] <fritsch> these are running on my -686 but did not see it
[11:50] <fritsch> zipper: please just install:
[11:50] <zipper> fritsch, and they're working? You're using .6.15-26 as well?
[11:50] <fritsch> zipper: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-686
[11:51] <fritsch> zipper: it does all you need
[11:51] <zipper> great, thanks
[11:52] <fritsch> zipper: after that sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[11:52] <fritsch> zipper: modprobe nvidia
[11:52] <charlie_> hey guys I was wondering if I could get some help enabling the nvidia-glx drivers for my onboard Nvidia Video.
[11:52] <fritsch> zipper: nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:52] <zipper> fritsch, i know what to do once i have the restricted modules, thanks
[11:52] <fritsch> zipper: after that sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[11:53] <zipper> i know, i know. I've been installing nvidia drivers countless of times, but thanks anyway
[11:53] <charlie_> oh someone else is having issues too I see heh
[11:53] <fritsch> charlie_: there?
[11:53] <fritsch> charlie_: what does uname -r say?
[11:53] <fritsch> charlie_: "uname -r"
[11:54] <charlie_> well my problem is I know the command to enable it, but every time I do, I get this error message in the console "
[11:54] <charlie_> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[11:54] <charlie_> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[11:54] <charlie_> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[11:54] <charlie_> command:
[11:54] <fritsch> charlie_: don`t paste
[11:54] <milos> Ok, it seems that only the poweroff "enables" the sound
[11:54] <zipper> charlie_, so, tried using the command it suggests you?
[11:54] <charlie_> yes I have
[11:54] <zipper> charlie_, you might want to take a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf first
[11:54] <zipper> charlie_, and?
[11:54] <milos> Might be some freaky hardware stuff, but the cursed XP doesn't have the same problem.
[11:54] <charlie_> and I always get that message
[11:55] <milos> The sound works every time in it.
[11:55] <fritsch> milos: look in dmesg what happens
[11:55] <fritsch> milos: after it does not work anymore
[11:55] <zipper> charlie_, are you following the guide on the wiki?
[11:55] <Darkkish> hey fritsch my computer has almost twice as much free ram now :-D
[11:55] <milos> Ok, I'll be back (tm by the whoever has the rights on Terminator 2:)
[11:56] <charlie_> no I haven't checked the wiki yet on that issue
[11:56] <zipper> Darkkish, what did you do?
[11:56] <west-en> what's the real reason to get K Desktop Enviroment?
[11:56] <zipper> charlie_, theres a good guide there for installing nvidia drivers
[11:56] <Darkkish> updated kde
[11:56] <Darkkish> @ zipper
[11:56] <zipper> !nvidia > charlie_
[11:56] <zipper> Darkkish, ah, to what version?
[11:56] <charlie_> I'm running Kubuntu on an eMachine
[11:56] <Darkkish> zipper:  the current one
[11:57] <west-en> what's the real reason to get K Desktop Enviroment?
[11:57] <zipper> west-en, linus likes it more than gnome =] 
[11:57] <Darkkish> its user friendly in my opinion
[11:57] <Darkkish> also what zipper said
[11:57] <west-en> ok, here i got one reason! some more?
[11:58] <Darkkish> hmm
[11:58] <Darkkish> i honestly don't know why
[11:58] <west-en> i want to now the reasons why KDE is "better" than gnome and XFCE
[11:58] <Darkkish> i just likeit more
[11:58] <zipper> west-en, some like the look of kde more than gnome
[11:58] <Darkkish> oh oh
[11:58] <charlie_> ok I lspci and I'm definitely using Nvidia.. I believe it's Nvidia 6100 OnBoard
[11:58] <zipper> west-en, it's not really "better". It's mostly a matter of taste and personal preference
[11:58] <Darkkish> http://www.psychocats.net/essays/kdevsgnome.php
[11:58] <west-en> yes i have heard that switchers from Windows to Linux likes KDE because it is similar to Windows, what do you think about this?
[11:59] <Darkkish> read that west-en
[11:59] <Darkkish> it will answer all of yoru questions
[11:59] <west-en> ok i am reading
[11:59] <fritsch> west-en: have fun
[11:59] <TheHighChild> west-en: Most people, including myself like KDE because of the budnled packages. A lot of them just rock like kontact
[12:00] <west-en> yes, thaok
[12:00] <zipper> fritsch, didnt work. I still get the same wierd error. I also get it sometimes when i run easyUbuntu, and i have no idea whats causing it. http://pastebin.dk/index.php?show=2050
[12:01] <fritsch> zipper: you have nvidia-glx installed?
[12:01] <fritsch> zipper: you have! loaded the nvidia modul?
[12:01] <fritsch> zipper: lsmod |grep nvidia
[12:01] <Darkkish> how do i get stuff off of my programs menu?
[12:01] <fritsch> zipper: just to be sure
[12:01] <Darkkish> nvm
[12:01] <Darkkish> figured it out
[12:01] <ubuntu__> hi has anyone managed to get vmware working ?
[12:01] <fritsch> zipper: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo modprobe nvidia
[12:02] <fritsch> ubuntu__: yes, me
[12:02] <zipper> fritsch, as i said, no, it didnt work. the nvidia module is not loaded
[12:02] <ubuntu__> fritsch was it an easy setup
[12:02] <fritsch> zipper: what is the error message?
[12:02] <fritsch> ubuntu__: http://www.achsedesbloeden.com/fritsch/index.php?action=blogpart&&getartikel=349
[12:02] <fritsch> zipper: you "just" have to do modprobe nvidia
[12:03] <ubuntu__> nice nice :)
[12:03] <fritsch> zipper: sudo modprobe nvidia
[12:03] <zipper> fritsch, sigh
[12:03] <zipper> fritsch, even if i get the nvidia module installed, i still need to fix that error
[12:03] <fritsch> zipper: you won`t understand me, or?
[12:03] <fritsch> zipper: you only need to have 2 things
[12:04] <fritsch> zipper: first nvidia modul has to be load in order to start x
[12:04] <zipper> fritsch, i cannot modprobe the nvidia module.
[12:04] <word> why do certain programs not startup with the session but others do?
[12:04] <fritsch> zipper: nvidia-glx has to be installed, too
[12:04] <zipper> it doesnt exist
[12:04] <fritsch> zipper: ah!!!
[12:04] <fritsch> zipper: cd /lib/modules
[12:04] <fritsch> zipper: find . -iname *nvidia*
[12:04] <ubuntu__> fritsch is there enough support with vmware to install xp and run battlefield2 and WOW
[12:04] <fritsch> zipper: find /lib/modules *nvidia*
[12:05] <milos> dmesg didn't report anything after the sound stopped working.
[12:05] <fritsch> ubuntu__: yes, no, no
[12:05] <zipper> fritsch, i can find the nvidia driver for my current kernel there. What to do with it?
[12:05] <fritsch> zipper: please tell me the error message of "modprobe nvidia"
[12:05] <milos> Should I provide it with some -n option?
[12:06] <fritsch> milos: no, sorry :-(
[12:06] <zipper> fritsch, told you already, "FATAL: Module nvidia not found."
[12:06] <fritsch> zipper: do a "sudo depmod -a"
[12:06] <fritsch> zipper: and modprobe again
[12:06] <rafael_> hi people
[12:06] <zipper> fritsch, still doesnt find it
[12:06] <rafael_> i just installed ubuntu linux, and im trying to install ut2004.
[12:06] <ICE> does anyone user freenx here?
[12:07] <rafael_> i see a .sh file on the dvd, how do i run it?
[12:07] <ICE> the server is telling me I have to log in to nxserver but can't seem to log in
[12:07] <fritsch> zipper: you have this one: 2.6.15-23-686/volatile/nvidia.ko
[12:07] <fritsch> zipper /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-686/volatile/nvidia.ko
[12:08] <milos> rafael: What's the name of the .sh file?
[12:08] <zipper> fritsch, nope, dont have that one.
[12:08] <zipper> sigh
[12:08] <fritsch> zipper: puh, mom
[12:08] <ubuntu__> fritsch how come you cant run battlefield or wow in vmware ?
[12:08] <zipper> fritsch, the easy way is just to install 2.6.15-23 instead... probably not worth the trouble of getting 2.6.15-26