=== bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === johnlittle [n=john@adsl-70-241-131-253.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:20] MenZa! [01:20] that's great [01:51] jenda, how did matthewrevell do at the meeting? [01:51] Not enough CC members present :( [01:51] so they didnt do memberships at all? [01:52] approved by mako, but that's it. [01:52] i guess it was good i didnt wait up and try myself then ;) [01:52] hehe :) [01:53] yarr [02:08] I still havent been to sleep [02:46] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMn72_unPWA [02:48] hey everyone [02:57] lophyte: yarr [03:01] it's not pirate day yet, poningru [03:01] elkbuntu: its pirate day everyday if you are a pirate [03:01] ;) === poningru is a pirate [03:01] #.^ [03:03] :D === poningru hugs elkbuntu [03:03] gaah wtf === poningru cant do unicode hex anymore [03:03] brb [03:07] lol === elkbuntu hugs poningru back [03:11] no seriously I cant do hexcode... [03:11] ctrl+shift isnt working === poningru goes bug hunting [03:27] can someone verify this [03:27] while holding down ctrl and shift, press b then press 5 [03:27] ? [03:27] what? [03:27] what do you get? [03:27] nothing o_o [03:27] sorry just trying to track down a bug [03:28] you on edgy? [03:28] ...er [03:28] wait [03:28] unicode? [03:28] [03:28] yeah [03:28] are you on edgy? [03:28] no, dapper [03:28] or dapper? [03:28] <-- that's what I get [03:29] yeah it seems like a bug in edgy [03:29] cant do unicode anymore through ctrl+shift [03:29] bummer :( === dinda [n=dinda@cpe-72-181-91-32.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === troy_s [n=aphorism@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === troy_s [n=aphorism@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["Parting"] === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === birula-na-aula is now known as birula === bimberi_ [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:37] Hi folks, anyone know who pays for the Ubuntu billboards in the US? [07:48] i'd guess one of the LUGs [07:55] there are LUGs with money? ;) [07:56] they might have got a grant from a rich person? [08:09] Canonical, for upcoming Ubuncon and what not [08:09] aha [08:10] notice they are all in the same area, preparing for the upcoming "Cons", Linuxcon and Ubucon...the new one is right by Google Headquarters [08:10] i just found out from and insider as a matter of fact ;) [08:10] not even 15 minutes ago === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:10] nice [08:10] haha carthik, from imbrandon at that [08:10] lol [08:10] lol [08:11] good $time_of_day corey :) [08:11] nixternal, imbrandon told you that? no kidding :) [08:12] ya, i just noticed you seen the same sign i did in the other channel [08:14] hi Burgundavia - you just going to stay up until you've got to catch that plane? [08:16] Madpilot: yep [08:16] heh [08:17] if the flight's at 0500, when do you have to be @ the terminal? [08:17] 0400 if you don't use a face cream. 0200 if you do :) [08:18] don't bother showing up if you want to take a bottle of water onto the plane :| [08:18] 0545, but the airport leaves downtown at 0410 [08:18] airporter, rather [08:18] getting a cab downtown, I assume? No busses at that unholy hour === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["Leaving"] [09:01] Burgundavia, you can take advantage of being up all night to dist-upgrade ubuntu.ca ;) [09:01] Madpilot: not going to happen [09:01] I need to get my laptop working [09:01] tried aiglx and it failed last night [09:01] that's what eyecandy gets you :) [09:01] no, likely a broken version of mesa [09:03] you running Edgy on the laptop too? [09:03] yep [09:03] aiglx is not available in dapper === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [09:15] Madpilot: apparently I am no aiglx enabled [09:15] however, I have no idea what to do now [09:15] enjoy the bling? [09:15] ;) [09:15] there is no bling [09:17] hey Burgundavia, fwiw, i had aiglx running on dapper the other night...it was pretty cool, but i got sick of gnome really quick ;) [09:17] nixternal: I am using aiglx and metacity [09:17] how do I enable the bling? [09:17] i followed the forums and it worked right from the get go [09:17] at term type [09:17] compiz-start [09:18] that should start the bling [09:18] right, using metacity, not compiz [09:18] doh [09:18] i couldn't tell ya then ;) [09:18] i thought compiz was the bling..then again, i really haven't read up on it...only seen the screencasts [09:18] right, but metacity has some bling around as well === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Burgundavia is sadly disappointed in the lack of bling [09:24] at least I got AIGLX running [09:24] I will play with compiz later [09:24] ya Burgundavia, compiz is pretty cool...i like some of the bling it offers, as it is actually functional..however, there is some bling i could do without [09:24] right === matthewrevell [i=synchron@outbound.silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [09:36] matthewrevell: http://ubuntu-ca.org/gnome-is-people2.svg or http://192.168.1.61/gnome-is-people.svg ? [09:41] the latter looks like it's on your home network [09:42] (as opposed to the internet) [09:47] mdke: oh, sorry, replace the 192 addy with ubuntu-ca.org [09:47] I cannot access my server from the url at home [09:57] Burgundavia, i prefer the second one you listed.. it's not as cliche a pic [09:58] elkbuntu: the 4 people? [09:59] yes [09:59] the other one is just too 'msn-like' [09:59] imho [09:59] I value all input === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:04] damn... what was that [10:06] Burgundavia: ooh, what's that for? [10:06] matthewrevell: GNOME booth at LWE [10:07] 11x17 poster [10:07] http://ubuntu-ca.org/why-gnome-brochure.pdf [10:07] ignore the issue with the fonts and the cutoff, those are easy to deal with [10:07] focus on teh words and the overall layout [10:07] matthewrevell: Cool. As elkbuntu said, I think the four people version works best. [10:07] glad you are good at talking to yourself there. Maybe that is why you make a good lugradio host ;) [10:07] I wish I had chance to look at the brochure, but I'm chock busy today :( [10:08] Sorry, just popped in to see what was going on. [10:08] no worries [10:08] matthewrevell: can you give it 10 secs? does it stand out? [10:08] Burgundavia: looking now [10:08] bur [10:08] Burgundavia: waiting for the pdf [10:09] my server might be slow [10:09] Burgundavia: I know it's easy for me to look at this and point out the bits I think don't work... [10:09] so, sorry [10:09] :) [10:09] but it does feel a bit cluttered to me [10:09] ok [10:10] something I was concerned about too [10:10] What's the LWE audience? [10:10] developers? [10:10] and users, business people mostly [10:11] Burgundavia: I think, then, it focuses too much of features/technologies, rather than benefits. Again,e asy for me to say. [10:11] just a bit [10:11] indeed [10:11] something a lot of marketing fails at [10:11] I mean, I'd want to know why I should care that it's released every six months [10:11] To me, as a business user, that could be more of a liability [10:12] yep [10:13] I'd be happy to give more thorough comments by email. [10:13] If that'd be useful [10:14] BTW - I don't understand the "More thanjust a Calculator" line === mindspin [n=mindspin@pD95FCAC4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:14] Is there a brand of calculator called "Gnome" in the US and Canada? [10:14] nope [10:15] ok, will dig around further [10:15] Burgundavia: Who did the copy? [10:15] I mean, did you? [10:15] the text? some of me and some of davyd [10:16] adapted from an old brochure [10:16] Right. [10:17] ok, thanks for the feedback [10:17] noprobs. [10:17] I don't realistically if I am going to have time to fix it [10:18] we need to have *something* to hand out [10:18] I'd be interested in rewriting the copy. [10:18] When do you need it for? [10:18] (I'm not saying my version would be perfect, but it's another option). [10:19] yesterday? [10:19] by the end of the day, your time, would be smashing [10:20] Ah, today's pretty difficult, but I'd love to find time for it. [10:20] I'll try to get something over later./ [10:20] sounds good === rjian [n=bot@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [11:07] rjian: ping? [11:07] I don't like your username. Please confirm not being a bot... [11:08] jenda: he is indeed a non-bot [11:08] OK, sorry. [11:08] no worries. He should still change it [11:10] What's wrong with that name? [11:10] KenSentMe: he has bot as his name [11:10] Hi, btw [11:11] KenSentMe, not his nick, but the first part of his actual username [11:11] "bot@..." [11:11] Ah, i see now [11:11] Never look at that part when someone logs in [11:13] How do you set that username? Can i change it somewhere? [11:13] I generally check that sort of thing, but then being an op in #ubuntu causes certain kinds of paranoia ;) [11:14] KenSentMe, in XChat's setup, it's listed as "Username" [11:14] I use irssi [11:14] But i know where to look [11:37] matthewrevell: email received and response sent [11:38] matthewrevell: UWN is a newspaper and journalism is hard(TM) [11:38] Burgundavia: erm, okay, that's fine, I just wanted to know where you guys found the info. === Klaidas [n=klaidas@unaffiliated/klaidas] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [11:39] matthewrevell: brains, igor, ours brains!!! === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [11:42] Burgundavia: I'm happy to do the legwork, but just wanted some pointers. [11:47] being a reporter is also a great way to "get out into the community" so to speak [11:57] cool === MenZa [n=menza@0x503ea710.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [12:16] Hey MenZa [12:16] hi === digitalmouse [n=jimm@p5481D755.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [12:20] greetings programs! [12:22] off to catch my flight, cya all === bimberi [n=dave@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:14] I have a question about the Fridge rss-feed. Why do some posts show up three times in my rss reader Liferea? [01:15] Is the feed a buggy one and shouldn't we fix it? [01:16] I've seen bugs like that with other feeds in my RSS reader (Opera's onboard one), so it's not just your RSS reader, whatever the bug is [01:18] Well, if it is buggy, then we should do something about it. It's a bit bad to have a buggy feed from an organisation that produces software [01:24] you might want to raise it with the fridge team [01:25] even better, offer to fix it, if you have some experience with drupal [01:26] mdke: sadly i don't. But maybe i can find the source of the problem [01:26] you can get hold of the fridge team at fridge-devel@lists.ubuntu.com [01:27] I have to say I can't see the problem on my feed reader (netvibes) [01:31] which feed exactly? I can try with my reader to see if I get the same behaviour [01:32] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/feed [01:44] I've installed a second feed reader, so now i only have to wait for a new double thread === Klaidas [n=klaidas@unaffiliated/klaidas] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] [01:47] I've found out that i get double posts when something is changed in the post, like spelling correction or something [01:52] KenSentMe: Isn't it just normal behaviour for an updated post to re-appear in a feed? You can, usually, configure your reader to ignore updated posts. === mindspin [n=mindspin@pD95FCAC4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:24] MenZa: Great thing you're coming this way. You think school would let you drop off for a bit and have a beer or something ;) [02:28] matthewrevell: i don't know for sure, but i thought that in my feed reader updated posts become unread again and aren't double posted [02:28] matthewrevell: looking for examples now [02:29] MenZa: you could even save for shipping and simply bring the stickers. [02:29] jenda: I'm 15, I doubt I'll be allowed to get a beer ;) [02:29] jenda: Whereabouts do you live? [02:30] Thursday, Sept. 28 I'll be in Prague. [02:30] MenZa: Getting a beer in Prague is no problem from the age of 3 or 4, and I live in the center of Prague. [02:30] [02:30] Well, I doubt the school would allow me anyway ;) [02:31] Well we could perhaps meet in Prague and I could give you the stickers at some point then... maybe. [02:31] (Of course, under the presumption that you want a beer - and in Prague, you are only expected to want a beer since about 10) [02:31] I don't know what the teachers'll say [02:31] hah [02:31] Yes, I like beer ;) [02:31] Well, if they give you any time off - be sure to drop a line [02:32] I will :) [02:32] My teacher said something about going to the opera at some point. [02:34] Live close to where that's located? [02:40] matthewrevell: perhaps if we avoid "create new revision" it will solve the problem [02:41] mdke: I've unticked that, but the update still appears in the feed. [02:42] mdke: It also appears that a new forum topic is created each time a story re-appears in the feed [02:42] yeah, saw that [02:43] MenZa: yes [02:43] quite close [02:43] How long will the stay be? [02:43] Just one day in Prague. [02:43] I see [02:44] in that case, it ain't all that probable that they'll let you wander off. But we could just meet en passant somewhere. [02:44] Yes, probably :) [02:45] matthewrevell: which version of drupal do you use for the fridge? === jenda runs off... need a nap :) [02:48] drupal eevviill! either that or I have stupid clients... most clients can't seem to get their head around Drupal's node terminology... yet Joomla or MODx seem to be fairly 'idiot-proof' for people new to CMSs... but otherwise drupal is nicely done. [02:48] *change 'yet' to 'but' [02:49] I've only used joomla, never tried drupal actually === Kamping_Kaiser must be /really really/ bad, as i didnt like joomla ;) [02:51] Kamping_Kaiser: you're evil ;) [02:52] :( [02:52] latest drupal and joomla are quite nice, in my opinion... just my clients seems to figure out joomla faster for some reason [02:53] maybe the interface is easier to 'grok' [02:53] KenSentMe: Sorry, not sure on the version [03:06] did my comments to the fridge list go through? [03:33] johnlittle, someone on the -marketing list seems to have gotten confused about you using the ubuntu site template [03:35] johnlittle: which comments? [03:36] mdke: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-marketing/2006-August/000978.html [03:37] KenSentMe: that isn't written by johnlittle [03:38] mdke: sorry - the comments to the fridge developers list about clean urls [03:38] elkbuntu: saw that [03:38] mdke: sorry, was confused by elkbuntu's post, sorry [03:39] johnlittle: only the first one, https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/private/fridge-devel/2006-August/000903.html [03:39] nothing since my reply to that [03:39] mdke: cant see that..login required [03:40] johnlittle: you're subscribed, aren't you? [03:40] mdke: ahh nm gmail burried your reply [03:40] it's your subscription login [03:43] mdke: got it..thanks [03:51] johnlittle: any ideas about what is needed source-wise? [03:55] mdke: I just replied to you [03:56] mdke: It's minor..template urls may be hardcoded and need tweaking and there may be a minor .htaccess edit required [03:56] mdke: not really coding - just edits [03:57] johnlittle: ok, let's move to #ubuntu-fridge [04:21] amazing how much european traffic im getting after the fridge plug..ubuntu must be doing well in europe [04:21] it does [04:21] johnlittle: I'm about to write up a story on the free Ubuntu stick offer. [04:22] johnlittle: I checked with them first, though, and thet seem happy enough. [04:22] johnlittle: Concerned it might overwhelm them. [04:22] the system76 guys? [04:22] johnlittle: yup [04:22] cool [04:25] I'm getting contacted by some of the people behind the videos ive posted already. [04:27] johnlittle: positive? [04:27] very..theyre offering to create more [04:28] johnlittle: superb! [04:54] johnlitte: (regarding your 'amazed at the european traffic) yes indeed! I'm in north-western Germany, and I do what I can to promote ubuntu- I also point people regularly to the Fridge [04:54] johnlittle* [04:55] digitalmouse: Ah, that explains it :-D [04:55] Digitalmouse: Great! I'm seeing lots of traffic from Germany [04:56] although I'm a little annoyed that my recent requests for more CDs have been rejected - but that's not the topic at hand (*goes back to sleep*) [04:57] I've probably dropped 30+ production CDs, and nearly as many self-burned copies to the unwashed MS masses... I'd say about 45% of them have left the 'dark side' [04:59] working on some kind of kubuntu/LTSP combo, and have dropped this idea to many locals, so it's possible that a large chunk of the Germany hits are people looking this stuff up to see what I was talking about :-p === jenda just checked and found his order rejected too. [05:01] could we do anything that merketing-tem members can get "more" cd's ? [05:01] marketing -team [05:03] mindspin: I've never used ShipIt, but I imagine that they judge each case on the information they're given. [05:04] mindspin: If we were in a position where we had a coordinated campaign that required ShipIt CDs and we gave them enough notice, I'm sure we could come to an arrangement with Canonical. [05:04] you can not give that much info over their website [05:04] http://planet.gnome.org/ [05:05] Yes, organised campaigns do get large amounts of CDs if needed. [05:05] matthewrevell: yes, absolutely you can get significant numbers of cds [05:05] especially through locoteam initiatives [05:05] While we will consider all requests, due to extremely high demand we may choose to send a smaller number of CDs, or refuse your request altogether. [05:05] Requesting a smaller number of CDs or a standard option will increase your chances of having the request approved. Remember, you can reuse the CDs! [05:06] Gah, please don't paste. [05:06] that#s what is stated on shipit when you go for larger amounts of cd's [05:06] ShipIt is, AFAIK, unique. Freespire, for example, will be charging its community for similar CDs. === jenda 's order was a standard request, but very shortly after another request I made, because I was ordering this package to a friend in a different country. They prolly didn't like the change of address. [05:07] As jenda and mdke say, if we have a coordinated campaign and can justify the need for larger numbers of CDs, they'll help us. [05:07] of course [05:07] I have no problem with burning the cd#s by myself, its the printed cardboard box which looks far ore professional ;-) [05:07] yes [05:08] mindspin, my last 2 orders from shipit *were* standard orders (a default selection of i386, 64-bit, and PPC CDs) for ubuntu and Kubuntu. and both rejected :-( [05:09] huh, so I was lucky, getting my "standard order" for kubuntu cd's [05:09] mindspin: That depends on how many previous orders digitalmouse had made recently. [05:09] previous order for kubuntu CDs were sent ok.. just my recent requests were bumped off [05:10] two sets of Breezy, one set of Dapper <-- these came ok, no trouble. 2 new requests for ubuntu and kubuntu standard orders: rejected [05:10] (er.. last 2 sets were dapper) [05:10] digitalmouse: There's a balance to be found, here. Of course, Canonical benefit from the distribution of ShipIt CDs. However, the CDs are a limited resource. If you've had a lot recently, or Germany has had loads, they may look to send to other people/countries the next time. [05:11] we gave away about 1000 at linuxtag in may [05:11] yep, free CDs are not a right, but a privilege [05:12] true, and good point... guess I'll need to invest in a couple of stacks of CDs, and use my new portable DVD burner (Philips model) - it has a grayscale printer built into the burner. I'll use that to create professional labels for now until Canonical catches up [05:12] digitalmouse: Wow, that sounds like a cool device. [05:12] digitalmouse: your local team may be able to help [05:12] haha [05:12] matthewrevell: i can confirm now that my feed reader just makes posts unread if they are changed and not makes a new post (except for the fridge) [05:13] KenSentMe: Arg :) Okay, thanks. It's been raised a few times now, but we need server access to fix it. [05:13] don't have the model here, but I'll pass it on... it burn on a specially covered Phillips CDs/DVDs... sort like the old dotmatrix printers that 'burned' or 'etched' images onto paper without needing ink... it gives a nice grayscale label output directly on the surface of the media... [05:13] gotta run.. catch oyu folks later [05:13] matthewrevell: do you already now how to fix it? [05:13] you* [05:14] KenSentMe: I don't, but we have a couple of offers of Drupal help. [05:14] matthewrevell: cool [05:23] elkbuntu: ping [05:23] johnlittle, pong [05:24] Have you been swamped with emails since the counter went live? [05:24] not really, ive had a few, mostly decent [05:25] thats good [05:26] yours is a bit more controversial though [05:27] johnlittle: I think, possibly, Hubert is missing the point in his blog post. [05:27] johnlittle: He's not your target audience. [05:28] johnlittle: The people you are targeting, I imagine, aren't already running Ubuntu. They do use Flash, they are happy to use YouTube. === matthewrevell feels a blog post coming on [05:28] matthewrevell: exactly. I'm not going to worry about the zealots. I'm confident in my mission :) [05:29] johnlittle: I believe in free software. I also believe in pragmatism and taking our message to people. [05:30] We can't be aloof and expect them to come to us. [05:30] same here [05:30] johnlittle, zealots are people too (cough cough cough) [05:30] theres a place for us all ;) [05:30] johnlittle, here in lies the truth [05:31] anyone think the old marketing list is gone a little quiet? === ompaul giggles [05:31] I should stop === ompaul stops [05:31] opaul: need a drama fix? [05:31] johnlittle, hahaha [05:32] a brilliant repost sire, I shall retire and laugh with the merryment [05:32] the ML and this channel seem like two different groups entirely [05:32] yeap [05:32] methinks some of the mailing list should actually be invited into the channel [05:33] scary thought [05:33] we tend to get some work done in here..not much debate about what is love? and the inclusiveness of marketing blabber [05:34] johnlittle, no I think after they were told in a chorus two or three times "Nooo thanks" they might try to engage within the normal scope of irc [05:34] maybe [05:36] ompaul, you noticed the 27hour lack of something also? [05:36] elkbuntu, yeap [05:42] sorry about the length of the next one I have reworked it twice -- it needs more [05:42] one of the assumptions that people make when they approach any FLOSS project (in particular for the first time) is that they assume that it would work better if X was in place, I think what I wanted to get across in my (this is the phrase I struggled to define for the last few weeks) "community map" is that there is no "leadership" in whatever their domain of expertise is, rather than seeing it as a disruptive technology and as such its in [05:42] terfaces are none obvious, to present them in a simple binary questionaire might be the easiest - do you want to find out more a) yes (send me anywhere) b) yes I have a technical problem c) yes I think this rocks and I can't see a way to participate can you show me one, is that a reasonable way of phrasing the question === ompaul goes to write 500 words [05:45] ompaul: you need a blog :) [05:46] matthewrevell, maybe [05:46] blogs are bad [05:46] they are evil [05:46] nixternal, and why is this? === matthewrevell bows out again. [05:47] :) [05:47] i don't know, but if and when i find out, i will make sure you are the first person i tell ;) [05:47] hehehe [05:47] ok, i know [05:47] i spent all day messing with mine trying to get it to look different than others, thats why [05:48] nixternal, no that is Tuesdays are evil [05:48] and 2, i have been so cheap, that i run other peoples domains and what not, but have never gotten my own...what kind of geek am i? [05:48] sounds like you got a case of the Mondays [05:48] ;) [05:49] nixternal, no I have the fridays 6pm and why am I still in work syndrome [05:49] nixternal, I don't let this stuff drop at all [05:50] right to the wordsmiths foundry === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:11] http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/about_ubuntu_video [08:12] Added an additional disclaimer since some people seemed fuzzy about the whole thing [08:16] very good work there johnlittle [08:17] Thanks [08:17] Where do you have that hosted? [08:17] hostingmatters [08:17] how much does that run? [08:17] great company. I've used the for about 4 years [08:18] I'll have to look into that [08:18] Um $11 a month now but I'll probably have to up it to a higher bandwidth account within a week [08:18] Getting good traffic? [08:19] for a new site very good but I expect it to grow: http://www.sitemeter.com/?a=stats&s=s25ubuntuvideo&r=6 [08:19] not bad at all [08:20] You partake at all in SpreadUbuntu? [08:20] The fridge article is getting it noticed but I haven't been around long enough to seed the search engines much [08:20] I'm not directly involved in that..my understanding is that it's kind of in flux..maybe being folded into the fridge [08:20] I don't know for sure though [08:21] very cool [08:21] Trying to get a grasp myself of everything thats going on in the puzzle of ubuntu [08:21] Good luck :) [08:21] hard to jump in somewhere when your just starting === MitchM chuckles [08:22] well if you need any help with anything I do some web design stuff and I can host sites for free [08:22] Read up on the team wiki and talk to people but don't be afraid to take initiative either. [08:23] read the wiki I have [08:23] idle here is what I came up with [08:23] =) [08:23]