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imbrandonhavent seen one of those in a while12:11
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LaserJockhehe, are we supposed to clap or something? ;-)01:11
ajmitchor run away screaming01:12
ajmitchtake your pick01:12
LaserJocklol01:12
ajmitchhow are you?01:13
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LaserJockajmitch: hangin' in there01:13
ajmitchit's a start01:13
LaserJockafter this week I should hopefully be a tad less busy01:13
LaserJockI'm trying to work on landscaping in the back yard a bit01:13
LaserJockand doing some research01:14
LaserJockbut Ubuntu stuff is more fun most of the time01:14
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welshbytegood _("evening")01:14
ajmitchLaserJock: yeah, I just met someone about some work - I'll be working part-time from next week01:15
ajmitchleaving a bit of time for ubuntu01:15
TheMusoHey all.01:15
LaserJockajmitch: cool01:15
ajmitchyeah, it should work out fairly well01:17
ajmitchdoing some sysadmin work on debian, and some coding01:17
LaserJockcool01:18
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bddebianHeya gang01:27
LaserJockhi bddebian01:27
bddebianHeya LaserJock01:27
ajmitchhello bddebian01:27
bddebianHeya ajmitch01:27
bddebianMore critiques on my critiques? :-)01:28
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ajmitchsigh01:29
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bddebianUh oh01:30
ajmitchit's annoying when it's a duplicate of a fixed bug01:30
ajmitchbut the fix is only in edgy so far01:30
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=== LaserJock wonders if his "production" box will survive the update-manager dist-upgrade to edgy
LaserJockit's telling me now it will take over 1hr just to install the packages01:41
LaserJocksurely that can't be right01:41
bddebianAlways a joy :-)01:41
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LaserJockhmm, that seems weird01:42
lfittlbddebian: welcome back :)01:49
bddebianlfittl: Thx :-)01:50
lfittlbddebian: have started working on attal, may I ask what exactly you have changed in the diff?01:50
lfittlbddebian: because it seems you added several files, I didn't dig deeper into it, but rather tried a clean cvs export + debian dir01:51
bddebianlfittl: The entire data branch01:52
bddebianlfittl: The build system expects themes to be in the tree now01:52
lfittlbddebian: I know, I tried it with exporting the modules src2 and themes, and putting themes into the src2 directory, fixing the paths should work01:53
bddebianFixing the paths?01:53
lfittlattal looks for the themes in /usr/local, I somehow have to set ATT_PREFIX, but it simply won't work01:54
bddebianOh.  Mine doesn't work?01:54
lfittlyours does work, but as I said, I tried a clean export + debian dir01:55
lfittlas I wanted to avoid the big diff01:55
bddebianHow would it be any less big since you have to include the themes trunk?01:55
bddebianOr did you make your own orig.tar.gz?01:56
lfittlI created my own orig.tar.gz, I know its bad, but simply works better in this case, as we are already doing a cvs checkout and creating our own orig tarball anyway01:56
bddebianAye01:56
lfittlso you haven't changed any paths?01:57
bddebianI'm checking, now that you mention it :-)01:57
bddebianIt's been so long ago ;-P01:58
lfittl:)01:58
lfittlI will try to get the upload to ubuntu done first, as I have a sponsor for all the debian packages, and I want to send them to him in one batch02:00
lfittland it will take some time until I have prepared my other packages for debian02:00
LaserJockwahoo, 45 min to go02:01
LaserJockI sure wish dpkg could be speaded up02:01
bddebianlfittl: Hmm, it appears I did hack attalCommon.cpp02:03
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lfittlbddebian: seems like ATT_PREFIX is the way to go though, any idea how I can set this one? Environment vars don't seem to work, and I want to avoid modifying the makefiles if possible02:06
bddebianHack config.pro or create a devel.pro?02:10
lfittlhmm02:11
lfittlno way to set this by using a parameter to qmake-qt4?02:11
bddebianHey, I'm the dumb one here.. :-)02:12
lfittlme too, have never used qmake before ;)02:12
lfittlso its too dumb ones hacking around, that will give a nice package :D02:13
bddebian:-)02:13
lfittls/too/two..02:13
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lfittlI start to hate this package again, I have been working 2 hours on it now, I somehow knew this would happen02:15
bddebian:-)02:15
lfittlbtw., I dediced to not create a package for the cyberpunk theme, it is not usable yet02:16
lfittlthe reason for updating to a cvs snapshot were build fixes, right?02:17
lfittls/build/build system/02:17
LaserJockanybody think it's ok to reject a bug that only happens with the fglrx drivers?02:19
lfittlLaserJock: which bug exactly?02:20
LaserJockBug #4666002:20
UbugtuMalone bug 46660 in maxima "broken" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4666002:20
gnomefreaki think it should be changed to fglrx maybe02:21
lfittlLaserJock: try to find out what exactly breaks, and then assign it to fglrx02:21
LaserJocklfittl: cool, thanks02:21
bddebianlfittl: qmake-qt4 ATT_PREFIX=/foo/bar Makefile.pro doesn't work?02:22
lfittlbddebian: tried that one, but there is a slight possibility I had some changes applied with that, trying again02:22
lfittlLaserJock: the chance that it will get resolved is still minimal, but at least its reported somewhere ;)02:23
LaserJockyeah02:23
LaserJockand if it moves from maxima to fglrx it makes my bug count go down ;-)02:24
lfittl:)02:24
lfittlbddebian: interesting, compilation now always fails with some error about ATT_PREFIX, hmm02:25
bddebiansweet02:25
lfittlbuilding again with original tarball + debian dir..02:27
bddebianWill fail on gcc 4.1 iirc02:27
lfittlwhy do you think that?02:28
lfittlattalCommon.cpp:63: error: 'ATT_PREFIX' was not declared in this scope02:28
lfittlsame error I had with the previous ones, I hate that02:29
bddebianlfittl: I think I pulled from CVS because of some gcc 4.1 issues02:33
lfittlbddebian: ah, good to know, as I somehow have to mention the cvs snapshot in the debian/changelog ;)02:34
lfittlbuilding now works again, I removed dE02:36
lfittlargh02:36
bddebianRemoved what?02:36
lfittlI removed the DEB_MAKE_INVOKE line from debian/rules to test something, and forgot to add it again02:36
lfittlsry, pressed the enter key too early02:37
bddebian:-)02:37
lfittlnow it works, with ATT_PREFIX added to the qmake-qt4 line, stupid me for removing DEB_MAKE_INVOKE, could have saved me lots of time not doing it ;)02:39
lfittldo you want to take a final look at the packages before I search for somebody to upload? (don't you also have upload rights for universe? that would make this part easier)02:40
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bddebianYeah, I can upload to Universe02:49
slomobddebian?02:50
bddebianslomo: Sorry, that was for lfittl :-)02:50
lfittlbddebian: REVU or upload somewhere else?02:50
bddebianlfittl: Doesn't matter02:51
lfittlbddebian: k, one last pbuilder test build, then I will upload to REVU, finally we will have updated attal packages :)02:53
bddebianSweet, thanks lfittl02:54
lfittlthanks too :)02:54
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slomocrimsun: ping?03:07
crimsunhi03:07
slomoah :) was your backporting yesterday successful and do you have something to test for me? :)03:07
crimsunI haven't looked at the init code (non-alsa)03:07
crimsunI'm fairly certain (95% confidence) it's not an alsa issue, and I _think_ I have a similar methodology for testing on the hardware here (laptop, however)03:08
lfittlIs there a good reason why I would want to use my @ubuntu.com address, instead of my @fsfe.org one? just wondering if this affects any tools ;)03:13
lfittlfor maintainer fields and changelog entries03:13
crimsunthe former are whitelisted-ACCEPT03:14
crimsunwell, I guess it's moot now that we have soyuz03:14
lfittlsoyuz manages this with the launchpad teams, right?03:14
crimsunso no, I guess there's no real incentive03:14
lfittlk, thanks :)03:14
lfittlbddebian: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=288003:16
hubmy upload got rejected03:16
hubno reason03:16
hub*sigh*03:16
hubhow can I know?03:17
crimsunit normally states the reject reason03:17
crimsunis the e-mail blank, or did you simply get no notification?03:18
lfittlbddebian: I hope the credits in the changelog file are ok this way, if you want specific changes attributed to you, tell me ;)03:18
hubcrimsun: it doe snot03:18
hubthe mail says03:18
hubRejected:03:18
hubhugin 0.6-0ubuntu1 was REJECTED.03:18
hub        Component: main Section: graphics03:18
hubah crap.03:19
hubwtf is "main"?03:19
crimsunit's the main component03:19
crimsunare you in core-dev?03:19
hubyeah but why is it?03:19
hubI'm supposed to upload to universe03:19
hubor is that an error from the NEW queue processor03:20
hubbecause it is not an automatic reject03:20
hubthe pacakge with dput a while ago03:20
crimsun hugin [Source]    0.6-0ubuntu2  Release  2006-08-10 16:50:05 EDT03:20
crimsunthat's in the NEW queue03:20
hubah right03:21
hubthere havebeen a 2 later03:21
crimsun1) it's still in NEW; 2) your version number is _lower_ than what's in the queue03:21
hubcrimsun: where can I see the queue?03:21
hubcrimsun: I uploaded 1 and 203:21
hubmake sense, I'll wait then03:21
crimsunhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+queue03:21
crimsunnot so mysterious :)03:22
hubyeah03:22
hubI keep that in mind03:22
hubcrimsun: is it real time?03:25
slomoyes03:26
slomohub: libccc? do you have a upstream url? :)03:31
hubhttp://live.gnome.org/Criawips/CriaCanvas03:31
slomothanks03:33
hubit is missing the download link03:34
hubI think it was on herzi blog03:34
bddebiancrimsun: Am I going to need a second nod before uploading attal?03:35
slomohub: svn is fine too :) i was just curious what it is and can do03:35
bddebiando be do be doo03:49
lfittlbddebian: will go to bed now, if there are any problems with attal, ping me or write mail, thx ;)03:50
lfittlgn8 motu world03:50
bddebianlf.. gah03:53
zuldo do do03:54
bddebianAnyone?  Do I need a second nod for attal to upload?03:54
slomobddebian: is it a NEW package not synced from debian or somewhere else?03:55
bddebianslomo: It's a new release from Upstream03:59
slomothen get it up :)04:00
bddebianUhm.. ;-)04:00
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imbrandonugh , how can this DD be getting diffrent lithian output than me ...... *thinks*04:18
tsengdifferent lintian version?04:20
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tsengruning it on different files?04:20
imbrandonhe is using sid, and i'm using a sid chroot, should be the same04:20
tsengi think you can urn it on dsc or changes04:20
bddebianOr .deb04:21
tsengor .deb04:21
imbrandonhrm i'm running it on *_source.changes he is running it on _i386.changes04:21
imbrandondoes that matter ?04:21
ajmitchyes04:21
imbrandondoh ok04:21
imbrandonthats the problem then04:21
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tsengoh!04:23
bddebiancrimsun: Still around?04:23
imbrandonajmitch: i talked to the upstream of apt-mirror again today , he dident understand the debian/ubuntu versioning so i got him all streight and he liked my patches enough to give me svn commit access , yay \0/04:23
ajmitchgood04:24
zul...you can break it04:25
tsengimbrandon: woo04:25
imbrandonhehe04:25
bddebianIf mythtv is GPL, why is it in Universe?  Because of the plugins?04:25
tsengread that line again04:25
tsengand tell us what you meant04:26
imbrandonso soon-ish i should be able just to sync it from debian to ubuntu ( with only one outstanding delta for the conf that will remain ) and upstream --> debian --> ubuntu will all finaly be in sync hehe04:26
bddebiandebian/copyright says mythtv is licensed under GPL04:26
tsengyou meant multiverse04:26
bddebianOh, heh, yeah04:27
bddebianNone of the deps/build-deps jump out at me as being non-free either?04:30
imbrandondumb question , has it ALWAYS been gpl ?04:31
imbrandondunno i've never used it so i have no idea, just shooting at the dark04:31
bddebianHmm, it has to be something with the encoders?04:31
imbrandons/at\ the/in\ the/g04:31
bddebianDunno04:32
bddebianHeya LaserJock04:43
LaserJockhi bddebian04:43
crimsunbddebian: yes, the encoders.04:51
crimsunbddebian: (and no, I'm not around still.)04:51
LaserJockhmm, well getting kubuntu and xubuntu off is not working as well as I had thought :-)04:51
crimsunas in purging?04:52
LaserJockkubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop that is04:52
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bddebian;-P04:52
imbrandonremoving KUBUNTU , blasphmey , lol just teasin04:52
LaserJockas in going back to stock ubuntu04:52
crimsunthat's straightforward. Remove libartsc* and libxfce*04:52
LaserJockimbrandon: well, it's just to dist-upgrade to edgy, then it''l be back04:52
imbrandonLaserJock: or remove kdebase*04:53
LaserJockcrimsun: hmm, maybe that would have been a good idea04:53
LaserJockinstead I found a long apt-get remove line on the web04:53
imbrandonheh04:53
LaserJockbut for some reason it is uninstalling way more than just kubuntu and xfce stuff04:53
LaserJockhttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php04:53
imbrandonhrm where can i get info on getting rid of this warning http://pastebin.ca/13205204:54
crimsunwell, what's in your postinst?04:54
crimsunLaserJock: the libavahi-core4 part.04:56
imbrandoncrimsun: http://pastebin.ca/13205604:57
LaserJockcrimsun: you're talking to me?04:57
bddebianLaserJock: Well he doesn't talk to me.. ;-P04:57
imbrandonlol bddebian04:57
crimsunLaserJock: you seem surprised that it's removing "way more than just kubuntu and xfce stuff"04:57
LaserJockyeah, like latex, science apps, thunderbird, etc.04:58
ajmitchLaserJock: you're better off without kubuntu, honestly04:58
zulnight04:58
LaserJockall I want to do is get down to a system I can dist-upgrade with04:58
ajmitchnight zul04:58
ajmitchLaserJock: this is why I was careful04:58
LaserJockI can't seem to do it with both ubuntu and kubuntu on there04:58
ajmitchand avoided dist-upgrade for most of it04:58
ajmitchprobably due to the apt upgrade04:58
LaserJockwell, I'm using update-manager04:59
ajmitchrecent apt ABI change, adept needs rebuilt iirc04:59
LaserJockas mdz said to try it out04:59
ajmitchfun04:59
ajmitchit does require the archive to be somewhat consistent with regards to installable packages04:59
LaserJockit seems to work, you just can't have both kubuntu and ubuntu on there or it can't resolve dependencies05:00
ajmitchas I said05:00
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LaserJockanyhow, it's off and running now05:00
ajmitchuh oh, rob's here :)05:00
LaserJocktook ~2hr on the computer at work :/05:00
welshbyteimbrandon: i'm just a newb but at a guess it looks like lines 33 onwards aren't needed *duck*05:01
LaserJock30 min to download and 1 1/2 hr to install05:01
rob:)05:02
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bddebianHobbsee: So you going to be the new Kubuntu Queen? ;-)05:16
Hobbseehi all05:16
Hobbseebddebian: i've yet to read the meeting logs.05:16
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ajmitchhello Hobbsee05:16
Hobbseehi ajmitch05:16
nictukuhi, I'm makign a python package with cdbs and python-central, but oddly it's only running dh_python and dh_pycentral for one of the binary packages, skipping the other05:16
LaserJockmostly like "hmm, ok. whatever"05:16
nictukuwhat could I be missing here?05:17
bddebiannictuku: What's your build and/or install target look like in debian/rules?05:18
ajmitchnictuku: you're missing the magic to make it work on all packages?05:18
crimsunI'd override the binary-install target for each binary package that the source generates.05:18
ajmitchhttp://wiki.debian.org/DebianPython/NewPolicy05:18
ajmitchhas how to do that manually05:18
LaserJockHobbsee: I though it was a little odd, but whatever :-)05:18
ajmitchnictuku: does it use distutils?05:18
HobbseeLaserJock: ah right05:19
nictukuajmitch, that way I would follow "the hard way".05:19
nictukuyes it uses distutils05:19
nictukuis this needed? include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/simple-patchsys.mk05:20
ajmitchno, it's not05:20
ajmitchwith distutils it *ought* to work for each package05:20
LaserJockif you are using simple-patchsys it is isn't it?05:20
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crimsun/usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/simple-patchsys.mk is not necessary unless you're using it. You should not need to override binary-install if your package uses distutils.05:21
nictukumaybe my setup.py is borked05:21
Hobbseehah.  it seems firefox really broke, looking at this meeting.05:22
ajmitchlooking at python-distutils.mk, it doesn't appear to run dh_pycentral multiple times05:22
nictukuhmm05:23
ajmitchto get that, we need cdbs 0.4.4505:23
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ajmitchright, looks like we need to resync with debian05:24
ajmitchrequires UVF exception, of course05:24
DrkLrdhow do u become a maintainer?05:25
LaserJockyou learn how to package, and when you know what you are doing you can ask the Technical Board for upload rights05:25
DrkLrdah thanks LaserJock05:25
LaserJockthat's the short version05:26
imbrandonshort short version ;)05:26
imbrandonhehehe05:26
DrkLrdlol05:26
nictukuI'll call dh_python and dh_pycentral manually for now, then05:26
imbrandonbrb more mt dew05:26
nictukuajmitch, thank you05:26
LaserJockbut you can help out all you want without becoming an uploader05:26
ajmitchnictuku: I'll follow it up with mdz05:26
LaserJockyou just have to have your work sponsored05:26
DrkLrdsponsored by whom?05:26
LaserJocka MOTU05:26
imbrandonany MOTU05:26
LaserJocka person with upload rights05:26
DrkLrdno one will sponser me cos i am very irregular here :D05:27
LaserJockthat's not a problem exactly05:27
crimsunthe source code speaks for itself.05:27
imbrandonDrkLrd: you can do it via LP and REVU also05:27
kjmHow do you go about starting to help out?  Is there a maintained ToDo list?05:27
Hobbsee!ping05:27
ubotupong05:27
LaserJockas long as you do good work05:27
DrkLrd!pong05:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pong - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:28
DrkLrdlol05:28
imbrandonkjm: in the /topic is a good place to start05:28
kjm:) ty05:28
LaserJockyeah, it's really hard to maintain a ToDo list05:28
DrkLrdanyone here on edgy?05:28
LaserJockbut right now we are doing merge/sync to get Edgy update to Debian unstable05:28
ajmitchnearly everyone05:28
imbrandonDrkLrd: most of us05:28
DrkLrdcool05:28
LaserJockand doing bug fixes05:28
DrkLrdi am still with dapper05:29
DrkLrdfinding bugs05:29
DrkLrd:D05:29
LaserJockI'm even bitting the bullet, I wasn't going to do it05:29
LaserJockbut it's nice to actually try the release you are working on ;-)05:29
DrkLrdi thought of starting Teen ubuntu project05:29
imbrandoneasier to see what needs fixed too05:29
DrkLrdso that teenagers can help a lot05:29
DrkLrdu know provide them with a OS that does everything05:30
DrkLrdcustomized ubuntu05:30
LaserJockI thought that was Ubuntu ;-)05:30
imbrandonDrkLrd: there are teen MOTU's age dosent matter much as long as you can do the work ;)05:30
DrkLrdi know that mate05:30
DrkLrdbut this was other project i was goint o start :P05:30
kjmbbl - just reinstalled XfCe, wanna check it out / config away05:30
DrkLrdLaserJock, it doesnt have ROCK stars wallpapers dont play mp3 and vids by default05:31
DrkLrdbut ITS COOL05:31
imbrandoncool i'm all for people helpnig but you might look into if its really needed or if you can just help ubuntu as a whole ;)05:31
bddebianExcept for us old farts :-)05:31
DrkLrdimbrandon, am helpin ubuntu as much as i can05:31
DrkLrd:)05:31
LaserJockhmm, well I don't know that mp3's and vids matter, but perhaps theming might work05:31
DrkLrdLaserJock, teen want mp3 and vids mate05:32
LaserJockalthough I'm partial to the Ubuntu wallpaper05:32
LaserJockDrkLrd: so does everybody else05:32
DrkLrdLaserJock, there is a school exhibition mate and i cam showcasing edubuntu there  :)05:32
LaserJockah very cool05:33
DrkLrdand will give away cd too :D05:33
LaserJockgreat05:33
DrkLrddamn am having problems05:33
LaserJockI'm trying to get Edubuntu at my university05:33
DrkLrdi updated05:33
DrkLrdand then mplayer and totem play a vid fine for the first time and then go haywire when i play next movie05:34
DrkLrdcolours are all washed :(05:34
DrkLrdLaserJock, u on ubuntu or kubuntu?05:42
imbrandonDrkLrd: most of us use {both,all} to some extrent to test etc, we may focus in our own areas of intrest but at some point most MOTUS run them all05:43
DrkLrdcool imbrandon05:44
imbrandons/MOTUS/MOTUs/g05:44
DrkLrdi got all 4 of em on my lappy now05:44
DrkLrdbut i dont use kubuntu dunno why :)05:44
imbrandonits all personal prefrence , i personaly run kubuntu most/90% of the time05:45
imbrandonbut like i said its personal prefrence05:45
DrkLrdOo05:46
DrkLrd:)05:46
LaserJockDrkLrd: I use both05:48
DrkLrdedubuntu ?05:48
LaserJockI don't really use edubuntu as I don't have a need for LTSP05:49
LaserJockbut I work on it05:49
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Hobbseebddebian: get to it05:53
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crimsun(so I'm not sure what barry was asking about, since he hasn't actually addressed it? ;)05:53
bddebiancrimsun: ?05:54
crimsunbddebian: what am I ignoring?05:54
bddebianI forget now :-)05:54
ajmitchsenility...05:55
bddebianHeh, no kidding05:55
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ajmitchI love cdbs05:56
ajmitchit's so much fun05:56
DrkLrdcarthik, sup mate05:56
Hobbseeajmitch: exactly :D05:57
ajmitchHobbsee: I'm just trying to merge in the changes from debian that we need05:57
carthikhey DrkLrd05:57
Hobbseeajmitch: ahhh...fun...05:57
ajmitchas I said05:57
LaserJock\o/ only 10 min of downloading left :-)06:02
ajmitchyay06:08
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ajmitchok, cdbs patches ported forward to 0.4.4606:24
bddebianBed time for this old man.  Gnight folks06:25
ajmitchnight bddebian06:25
imbrandongnight06:25
LaserJockdoh06:25
LaserJocknot fast enough, again06:25
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ajmitchmakes compared patch hunks & applying them a lot easier06:26
ajmitchs/compared/comparing/06:26
imbrandonyup , exactly ajmitch06:26
imbrandoni love dual monitors, once i got used to them i dunno how i did without them06:26
crimsunthe same way the rest of us poor folk do, vimdiff -g or its $EDITOR equiv.06:27
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LaserJockI'm still on a 17" CRT here at home :/06:41
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kjmkjm has 2 23" http://www.apple.com/ca/displays/specs.html06:43
LaserJocknice06:44
kjmgot one from work to compliment.  They are gorgeus.06:44
kjmUpgraded from a 17" CRT.  The difference was insane06:45
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crimsunhmm, my key for -security stills seems to be borked09:44
crimsunanyone free to apply a debdiff?09:44
crimsun(universe source, of course)09:45
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imbrandoncrimsun: sure09:46
Gloubiboulgacrimsun, I'd be happy to sponsor your upload ;)09:47
imbrandonyou cant uplaod ?09:47
Gloubiboulgaah, imbrandon, you're faster than I am09:47
imbrandonheh09:47
crimsunoh I can upload, but -security will silently reject it because it has a cached copy of my expired key09:47
crimsunessentially "no, I can't upload"09:47
imbrandonkk09:48
crimsunimbrandon: http://www.trilug.org/~crimsun/oprofile_0.9.1-8ubuntu0.1.debdiff09:48
crimsundput stanza for -security:09:49
crimsun[security] 09:49
crimsunfqdn = security.upload.ubuntu.com09:49
crimsunincoming = /09:49
crimsunlogin = anonymous09:49
imbrandondo i need to get the dapper source ?09:49
crimsunyes09:49
imbrandonk09:49
crimsunthanks09:49
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imbrandonhrm ok patch applied so now i need to debuild it with my key so it uploads in my name right since your key wont work?09:55
crimsuncorrect, dsc+source.changes+diff.gz will need to be signed with your key09:56
crimsunI don't mind, obviously, if you want to change the e-mail attribution in debian/changelog , too09:56
imbrandonkk done09:57
crimsunI've already OKed it by pitti, so it doesn't matter who "gets credit for the upload"  [https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/security-review/2006-August/000425.html] 09:58
imbrandonkk yea uploading now ...09:58
imbrandonoprofile (0.9.1-8ubuntu0.1) dapper-security; urgency=low09:58
imbrandon  * Sponsored upload for Daniel T Chen <crimsun@ubuntu.com>09:58
imbrandoni put that at the top09:58
imbrandonabove what you added09:59
crimsunno need, really, but ok09:59
imbrandonheh wasent sure and had it done by the time you asaid so ;)09:59
imbrandonok upload done, i dunno what ML it comes accross but you might check it as i've never uploaded to -security before10:00
crimsunyou'll get an e-mail (your key)10:00
imbrandonohh yea10:01
imbrandonlol10:01
imbrandonhrm no mail yet, hopefully it dosent silently die , http://pastebin.ca/13233710:05
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crimsunI'll just have to ping elmo again. Thanks anyway.10:14
imbrandonnp , sorry bout that , figured it would work heh10:15
imbrandonunless it has i dunno how to tell without the ML or a email confromation10:16
imbrandonbut somehow i think it silently died10:16
crimsunI dunno (-security uses a completely different workflow).10:18
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StevenKYay!10:27
StevenKMy Dapper CDs turned up!10:27
crimsunhoo-rah10:27
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imbrandonokies time for bed, gnight fellas ( any ladies if any are {arround,awake} )10:48
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Sp4rKyhi11:27
geserhi11:30
Sp4rKyi've some issue with libjack0.100.0-dev11:31
geserit looks like you pbuilder is messed up as the version of libc6 listed yesterday points to dapper and not edgy11:33
geseror not uptodate11:33
Sp4rKystrange11:33
Sp4rKyi've done a pbuilder update --override-config yesterday11:33
Sp4rKySp4rKY-laptop% grep -i edgy ~/.pbuilderrc11:34
Sp4rKyDISTRIBUTION=edgy11:34
Sp4rKySp4rKY-laptop% grep -i dapper ~/.pbuilderrc11:34
Sp4rKySp4rKY-laptop%11:34
Sp4rKydo you have a edgy pbuilder ?11:35
geseryes11:35
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geserhave you tried to recreate the pbuilder?11:36
Sp4rKyno11:36
Sp4rKyjust update11:36
Sp4rKygo for recreate11:36
Sp4rKyroot@Sp4rKY-laptop:/# apt-cache policy libc611:37
Sp4rKylibc6:11:37
Sp4rKy  Installed: 2.3.6-0ubuntu2011:37
Sp4rKy  Candidate: 2.3.6-0ubuntu2011:37
Sp4rKyis right ?11:37
Sp4rKydo you have the same ?11:37
geser     libc6 | 2.4-1ubuntu8 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages11:37
Sp4rKyoups11:38
Sp4rKystrange11:38
Sp4rKyrecreating ...11:38
geserI created my edgy pbuilder with sudo pbuilder create edgy11:39
Sp4rKyi'm doing the same11:39
Sp4rKyi hope it 'll work11:39
Sp4rKythx11:39
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Sp4rKygeser, works :D thx !!!12:33
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LutinHi12:46
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Sp4rKyhi Lutin01:05
Sp4rKyask you question and wait for an answer01:06
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Seveasneutrinomass, please join #ubuntu-bugs01:21
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Lutindo you know what is the library linked with the -lm flag ?01:39
thommaths iirc01:39
StevenKThe math library01:39
Lutinok, thanks :)01:41
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Hobbsee*waves01:41
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Seveasogra, hehe01:42
=== Hobbsee wonders what it was
=== Hobbsee wants a laugh, after everything that's happened tonight.
=== StevenK tickles Hobbsee.
SeveasHobbsee, it actually was about you01:44
SeveasHobbsee, what happened tonight?01:44
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HobbseeSeveas: car died, called up the onroad assistance, they took about 60 min to show up, they got my car down to be somewhere where it could be towed, tow truck was supposed to come in 60 mins, so i called htem again in an hour and 40 mins.  they were lost, everything was in a shambles, they didnt want to come tow my car, etc ("you've got heaps of government busses coming thru here, you can fit a tow truck!"), they eventually came, had mum hackin01:47
Hobbseeto the dealer, etc,etc,etc....oh yeah.  and i almost walked in front of a bus in the process.  i finally got home 4 hours and 20 mins after i'd intended to.01:47
Seveaswoah...01:47
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Hobbseeand my phone credit ran out in the process.01:47
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Hobbseeoh yeah.  and mum went thru my room as well.  grrr.01:48
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=== Hobbsee hugs ogra in return
FujitsuPoor Hobbsee.01:49
Hobbseeoh yeah.  and they gave us an assignmetn to do in 51 hours.01:49
Hobbseedeadline is tomorrow, 5pm01:49
FujitsuTerrific.01:49
Hobbseeit was up earlier, they just didnt actually bother to go and *tell* anyone about it.  or when it was due.01:49
Hobbseejust that "there is a physics assignment due sometime"01:49
SeveasHobbsee, this was the mail ogra lol'ed about: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-August/090730.html01:50
HobbseeSeveas: hehe!  it really was about me!01:51
SeveasWould I lie to you?01:51
HobbseeSeveas: make sure you add in there that i dont actually use gnome at all01:51
Hobbseetrue that01:51
Hobbseei thought you were joking01:51
HobbseeSeveas: a) i dont use gnome b) i rarely use dapper.  :P01:52
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Hobbseeoh yeah.  and with the stuff earlier, the fire alarms at the uni went off too.02:05
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Goshawkhi04:22
Sp4rKyhi Goshawk04:26
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phanaticafternoon04:37
LaserJockgrr04:39
LaserJockI can't seem to get edgy upgrades to work well04:40
HobbseeLaserJock: how so?04:41
LaserJockI've tried 3 and I usually have major problems04:41
LaserJocklast nights try now won't boot04:41
Hobbseeah04:42
LaserJockI mean, obviously it's Edgy and all04:42
LaserJockbut it'd be nice to actually be able to try it out sometime04:42
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selinuxiumHi all, I have just changed jobs which has freed up some time. So I want to get more involved. Is there a London LUG or something where I can get some mentoring? Or can I do that online>04:52
selinuxium?04:52
LaserJockonline is probably best for MOTU work04:52
Hobbseethere's definetly a London LUG, i expect04:52
selinuxiumHi LaserJock, I think I spoke to you about a year ago on this subject!04:53
thomHobbsee: there is, but i doubt GLLUG will be too interested in ubuntu mentoring04:54
selinuxiumPossibly less. I keep wanting to get more involved but the world gets in the way....04:54
Hobbseeah04:54
selinuxiumHi Hobsee, The UK edition of Linux Format Magazine is nearly 50% Ubuntu with pics of dholbach and sabdfl !04:55
selinuxiumSo is the easiest way to help still to do some packaging?04:56
LaserJockwork on bugs, merge packages from Debian into Edgy04:56
selinuxiumOK I now have a laptop that I can use in the lounge so the other half complains less that she doesn't see me! I will go through the Motu pages in the wiki again.04:58
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QuestionMarkCounHello *, can anybody here give me a hint, how to setup gpg for signing my own ubuntu cd images?05:06
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ChonsQuestionMarkCoun: Why don't you take a look at the wiki?05:51
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jdong|coreduocan pbuilder use makeopts like -j2? I want things to be a bit more utilized on my multi-core box05:53
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tryggHeh, anyone know why i cant find anything when i 'apt-cache search gtk+-2.6'?05:55
Gloubiboulgasearch for gtk2.0 :)05:56
QuestionMarkCounChons: Ok, can you tell me where in the wiki?05:56
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tryggGloubiboulga: I cant find anything thats 2.6 there either. I find libgtk-something and thats already newest version05:57
Gloubiboulgatrygg, are you trying to find the version 2.6 of gtk2?05:58
tryggGloubiboulga: Heh, 'Checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.6... failed'05:59
Gloubiboulgatrygg, the package you need is libgtk2.0-dev05:59
tryggOoh. :)05:59
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Gloubiboulgathe 2.0 in the package name is not the version ;)06:00
tryggYeah i get that, but i didnt know which of the libs i needed. B)06:00
tryggThanks.06:00
LaserJockjdong|coreduo: I think it can, just man pbuilder06:01
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LaserJockQuestionMarkCoun:06:01
LaserJockhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto06:01
tryggGloubiboulga: while were on the subject, is not mplayer supposed to be apt-getable? I only find kmplayer.06:01
Gloubiboulgatrygg, when you compile something, you usaully want to install -dev packages, they contain the .h files needed to buil, and informations about the library (such as CFLAGS)06:02
QuestionMarkCounLaserJock: thank you06:03
Sp4rKyi need some help with lintian overiting06:07
penguin42hi, I'm interested in what automated testing is performed prior to release for Ubuntu releases - I've seen the wiki/Testing page, but I'm more interested in automatic tests and things like memory use stats, and torture tests - is this the right place to ask?06:08
Sp4rKyi've wrote "audacious source: package-name-doesnt-match-sonames libaudacious3.0.0" to debian/source.lintian-overrides but i've always my error with lintian06:08
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bddebianHeya gang06:09
welshbyteyo bddebian06:10
bddebianHi welshbyte06:11
Sp4rKyhey bddebian06:12
bddebianHi Sp4rKy.  Any luck?06:12
Sp4rKyjust a few issue with audacious06:13
Sp4rKyand djplay doesn't working at all06:13
bddebianNo? :-(06:14
Sp4rKybddebian, if you have a few minutes, could you help me with lintian ovverides ?06:14
bddebianI can try06:14
Sp4rKyno, at all :(06:14
Sp4rKythx06:14
Sp4rKyi've this !06:15
Sp4rKys/!/:/06:15
Sp4rKySp4rKY-laptop% cat debian/source.lintian-overrides06:15
Sp4rKyaudacious source: package-name-doesnt-match-sonames libaudacious3.0.006:15
Sp4rKybut when i use lintian with the /deb, i've always this warning06:16
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Sp4rKybddebian (or other), any idea ?06:22
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bddebianSp4rKy: Sorry, give me a sec06:24
bddebianSp4rKy: Did you add dh_lintian?06:25
Sp4rKynop :|06:26
Sp4rKyhow should i add it ?06:26
Sp4rKybefore dh_installdeb ?06:26
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bddebianSp4rKy: Oh, it doesn't exist, nevermind06:27
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Sp4rKy:)06:29
bddebianSp4rKy: But I believe that you do have to install it into /usr/share/lintian/overrides/<package>06:29
Sp4rKyok06:29
Sp4rKybut lintian will always say the same error even if i install it, right ?06:31
Toadstoolhi everybody06:33
Sp4rKyhi Toadstool :)06:33
ToadstoolSp4rKy: if you install your override file to /usr/share/lintian/overrides/<package> as bddebian said, lintian will read this file and ski the tests listed in it06:37
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Toadstool*skip even06:37
penguin42if no one has any thoughts on my testing question, any suggestions where eles to ask?06:39
Sp4rKyToadstool, k06:40
carthikpenguin42, memory use tests and torture tests are generally to see the breaking point of hardware - may I ask why you are interested in that? In any case, you are welcome at #ubuntu or #ubuntu-bugs to ask questions regarding these. This is a just a channel for packagers, sort of.06:43
penguin42carthik: I'm more interested in torture tests of the kernel - e.g. how it handles low memory; torture testing for filesystem or networking bugs; memory useage tests to know whether edgy will use more RAM than Dapper for example06:44
carthikpenguin42, not so sure this is the right place to continue the conversation. Please ask at #ubuntu or #ubuntu-bugs. Thanks.06:45
penguin42ok, I've tried #ubuntu - I'll try #ubuntu-bugs06:46
penguin42thanks06:46
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kagouhub, around ?06:55
hubhere06:57
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hubkagou: what was your question?06:58
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kagouhub, i can not found hugin on launchpad or on revu.tauware.de ?!06:59
kagouhub, is it normal ?07:03
hubkagou: still in the NEW queue07:05
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hubkagou: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+queue?start=007:06
hubkagou: so it will have to wait until made available07:07
hubkagou: as for REVU, make sure you displayed "Archived" uploads07:07
kagouok thanks hub07:07
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Goshawkin https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU?action=show&redirect=REVU i read: Be sure that you have a [WWW]  Launchpad account and that you have added your GPGKey to it. Then ask to [WWW]  be added to the Ubuntu Universe Contributors team. One of the REVU admins will add you then to the group (== Upload rights for REVU). i read this: To add your key, send a signed email with your GnuPG key ID asking to be added to the REVU keyring to07:27
Goshawk <keyring@tiber.tauware.de>. One of the REVU admins will add you to the uploaders keyring and reply to your email. You don't need a password to upload packages, only to log in to the website and to reply to comments. at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/ubuntu-upload.html . What should i do to have upload rights?07:27
Goshawksorry for this long message07:28
LaserJockyou  need a gpg key07:34
LaserJockand you need to join the ubuntu-universe-contributors Launchpad team07:34
GoshawkLaserJock: already done07:35
LaserJockthen upload something and see if it works07:35
LaserJock:-)07:35
Goshawkok... so i don't need to mail the REVU admins07:35
LaserJockno07:36
welshbytecan i join that team on the off-chance that i'll be uploading something to REVU in the nearish future? :)07:36
LaserJockit's open to anybody07:37
bddebianHeya LaserJock07:37
welshbytegroovy07:37
LaserJockhi bddebian07:37
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welshbytenow i just need to wait for the cd burning bug to get fixed so i can test my package on edgy07:41
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DrkLrdsup LaserJock08:11
LaserJockhi DrkLrd08:14
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LaserJockyes, I think a BddebianForXGod page might be appropriate ;-)08:32
mc44ha08:33
bddebianI truly appreciate the love and admiration I get around here... ;-P08:33
LaserJockthat's good08:34
LaserJockwe don't want you to feel like we hate you or anything08:35
bddebianheh08:35
mc44I just hope they are expanding the dev team rather than iwj, doko and BenC having quit :-/08:35
thommc44: those three people have far bigger roles than just the stuff listed on the jobs page08:35
thomso no worries there i think08:35
mc44excellent :)08:36
Sp4rKyToadstool, doesn't works :/08:47
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lfittlSomebody have some time to approve 4 sync bugs? (bug #56451, #56453, #56454, #56455)09:50
UbugtuMalone bug 56451 in gnustep-examples "[Sync Request]  gnustep-examples 1:1.0.0-2" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5645109:50
UbugtuMalone bug 56453 in gtamsanalyzer.app "[Sync Request]  gtamsanalyzer.app 0.42-2" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5645309:50
UbugtuMalone bug 56454 in gworkspace "[Sync Request]  gworkspace 0.7.0-1.2" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5645409:50
UbugtuMalone bug 56455 in helpviewer.app "[Sync Request]  helpviewer.app 0.3-3" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5645509:50
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crimsunlfittl: done.10:02
lfittlcrimsun: thanks :)10:02
bddebianlfittl: Aren't you an MOTU yet? :-)10:07
lfittlbddebian: not yet, I know Technical Board Meeting is now, but I don't think I have enough recent work, will apply when the next meeting comes ;)10:08
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lfittlbddebian: basic problem is, although I have those 10 packages maintained (and now 11 with attal), most of them did not have an upload except the initial one, because there were no bugs or new upstream versions10:09
crimsunthere are a dozen or so -dev applicants I've never heard of10:09
lfittlbddebian: and that makes it look like I am not doing that much packaging work ;)10:10
lfittlis there no cleanup script that removes them after some time?10:11
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phanaticlfittl: is your bzr management tool available for download?10:16
lfittlphanatic: there is not much there yet, just calling some bzr stuff from PHP, I could make a bzr branch of it though if you are interested10:16
bddebianlfittl: Ah10:16
phanaticlfittl: i'm really interested, so if you have a little time, please put up a branch somewhere. thanks :)10:17
lfittlphanatic: k, give me 20 mins to add licenses and stuff :)10:18
phanaticlfittl: k :)10:18
lfittlphanatic: are you also interested in the database structures that are needed for it to run? (basically user auth table + branch information, postgresql)10:19
phanaticlfittl: of course, since i'd like to test it, too :)10:20
Toadstoolre10:21
bddebianBah, no better test than production ;-P10:21
bddebianwb Toadstool10:21
lfittl:)10:22
lfittlphanatic: hmm, sshfs won't work, add another 10 min to that10:23
Toadstoolhey bddebian10:24
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phanaticlfittl: okay, i'll be here till midnight (i'm pretty sure we're in the same tz)10:24
lfittlphanatic: good, and you're right, we are in the same tz :)10:25
Toadstoolgnomefreak: around?10:27
gnomefreakyep10:28
Toadstoolhi10:28
gnomefreakhi :)10:28
Toadstoolhave you seen that the sync for gnomebaker's been rejected?10:29
gnomefreakyeah10:29
Laser_awayso was there a TB meeting or no?10:29
gnomefreakLaser_away: not really10:29
sander_Hello. I'be been waiting over a month now for a sync from Debian for my package. Could anyone take a look at it? I think it's fallen though the cracks :-)10:29
Toadstoolgnomefreak: d'you want to prepare a "merge"?10:29
gnomefreakToadstool: im not sure how to doa  manual merge10:29
lfittlphanatic: oh, and you will need some rewrite rules too, I will add mine for lighttpd, but if you use apache you have to write them yourself ;)10:29
gnomefreakand im leaving town til sunday tomorrow morning10:29
phanaticlfittl: i hope that will be the biggest issue ;)10:30
Toadstoolhi LaserJock10:30
lfittlphanatic: me too ;)10:30
gnomefreakis there any docs on how to do a manual merge that i can look at see if i have time tonight to run through it10:31
Toadstoolgnomefreak: crimsun's MOTU School session ;)10:31
Toadstoolhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/Merging-and-Syncing10:31
gnomefreakyeah i got lost in that10:31
Toadstoolgnomefreak: basically, you just have to get the magical script on merges.ubuntu.com, have it grab the different package version for you and then merge-buildpackage the merged package10:33
LaserJockI also have a bit of a merge tutorial in the packaging guide10:36
LaserJockbut it's a bit outdate10:36
LaserJockd10:36
gnomefreakthats it?10:37
gnomefreaki dont have to manually go into files change things rebuild than merge?10:38
LaserJockwell, you have to figure out why an ubuntuX package was there in the first place10:38
Toadstoolyep10:38
LaserJockand make any changes necessary to keep that10:39
gnomefreakthe report tells me that i thought10:39
gnomefreaklet me grab the packages real fast10:39
bddebiansander_: What is it?10:41
Toadstoolgnomefreak: hmm, if they are conflicting diff between the ubuntu and debian versions, you'll have to check whether you want to keep ubuntu specific changes in the package (which I doubt since you and I have already checked the package for the sync)10:42
sander_it's gnome-hearts. It hit debian on July 5 before UVF and it's still not in edgy. See bug 5354410:43
UbugtuMalone bug 53544 in Ubuntu "Please sync gnome-hearts from Debian" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5354410:43
bddebiansander_: I'll try to take a look10:43
sander_Thanks :-)10:43
Toadstoolgnomefreak: if you want to "justify" the sync, merge the icon path thing in the desktop file ;)10:43
Toadstools/sync/merge/10:44
kagouhub, i can't find information on "iie". Do you have a link for ?10:44
gnomefreakim having issues runnign the script atm10:44
gnomefreakok its grabbing the files10:47
hubkagou: somewhere10:47
hubkagou: http://dev.mmgsecurity.com/projects/iie/10:48
hubfound with google10:48
LaserJockok, so I'm 0 for 2 today with edgy upgrades :/10:48
kagouthnx hub (i'm doing modifications on photo team page)10:49
hubwhere is the best place to ask about adding thieself to Planet? mostly a bzr issue10:59
gnomefreakLaserJock: do you have your how to on merges handy?10:59
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LaserJockgnomefreak: it's in the Packaging Guide (look on help.ubuntu.com)11:02
gnomefreakk i think i have that page11:03
gnomefreakty11:03
Toadstoolgood night everybody11:06
bddebianWhoa, just booted DSL on my Windows machine.. Pretty cool11:06
bddebianGnight Toadstool11:06
gnomefreakToadstool: since we both looked at it and decided that debians is newer all i really have to do is merge-buildpackage?11:06
gnomefreaknight11:06
lfittlphanatic: just doing some quick bug fixes, expect it in 15 mins ;)11:09
phanaticlfittl: great :)11:09
bddebianLater folks11:20
lfittlphanatic: creating the branch now, that takes some minutes again, sry11:28
phanaticlfittl: no problem, i can wait :)11:28
lfittlphanatic: good :)11:28
lfittlphanatic: http://projects.ixios-software.com/bzr-wmt11:40
phanaticlfittl: thanks a lot :)11:41
lfittlphanatic: no problem, please report bugs, there is a good chance there is a lot of them still in there, and remember its in early development ;)11:41
lfittlphanatic: will create a launchpad product for it, makes the bug reporting part easier :)11:42
phanaticlfittl: great, expect to hear some stuff from me :) i'll have something to play around for the trip tomorrow :)11:43
lfittlphanatic: perfect, mail me if you have questions and I am not online11:43
phanaticlfittl: k11:44
lfittlphanatic: one last note, GeSHI is only required if you want to use view.php, and you need the development version, not the stable one11:45
phanaticlfittl: what's GeSHI btw? :)11:45
lfittlphanatic: Generic Syntax Highlighter -> http://qbnz.com/highlighter/ ;)11:46
lfittlphanatic: useful tool if you want to highlight something in PHP11:47
phanaticlfittl: oh, good to know, thanks :)11:47
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