[12:11] <imbrandon> havent seen one of those in a while
[01:11] <LaserJock> hehe, are we supposed to clap or something? ;-)
[01:12] <ajmitch> or run away screaming
[01:12] <ajmitch> take your pick
[01:12] <LaserJock> lol
[01:13] <ajmitch> how are you?
[01:13] <LaserJock> ajmitch: hangin' in there
[01:13] <ajmitch> it's a start
[01:13] <LaserJock> after this week I should hopefully be a tad less busy
[01:13] <LaserJock> I'm trying to work on landscaping in the back yard a bit
[01:14] <LaserJock> and doing some research
[01:14] <LaserJock> but Ubuntu stuff is more fun most of the time
[01:14] <welshbyte> good _("evening")
[01:15] <ajmitch> LaserJock: yeah, I just met someone about some work - I'll be working part-time from next week
[01:15] <ajmitch> leaving a bit of time for ubuntu
[01:15] <TheMuso> Hey all.
[01:15] <LaserJock> ajmitch: cool
[01:17] <ajmitch> yeah, it should work out fairly well
[01:17] <ajmitch> doing some sysadmin work on debian, and some coding
[01:18] <LaserJock> cool
[01:27] <bddebian> Heya gang
[01:27] <LaserJock> hi bddebian
[01:27] <bddebian> Heya LaserJock
[01:27] <ajmitch> hello bddebian
[01:27] <bddebian> Heya ajmitch
[01:28] <bddebian> More critiques on my critiques? :-)
[01:29] <ajmitch> sigh
[01:30] <bddebian> Uh oh
[01:30] <ajmitch> it's annoying when it's a duplicate of a fixed bug
[01:30] <ajmitch> but the fix is only in edgy so far
[01:41] <LaserJock> it's telling me now it will take over 1hr just to install the packages
[01:41] <LaserJock> surely that can't be right
[01:41] <bddebian> Always a joy :-)
[01:42] <LaserJock> hmm, that seems weird
[01:49] <lfittl> bddebian: welcome back :)
[01:50] <bddebian> lfittl: Thx :-)
[01:50] <lfittl> bddebian: have started working on attal, may I ask what exactly you have changed in the diff?
[01:51] <lfittl> bddebian: because it seems you added several files, I didn't dig deeper into it, but rather tried a clean cvs export + debian dir
[01:52] <bddebian> lfittl: The entire data branch
[01:52] <bddebian> lfittl: The build system expects themes to be in the tree now
[01:53] <lfittl> bddebian: I know, I tried it with exporting the modules src2 and themes, and putting themes into the src2 directory, fixing the paths should work
[01:53] <bddebian> Fixing the paths?
[01:54] <lfittl> attal looks for the themes in /usr/local, I somehow have to set ATT_PREFIX, but it simply won't work
[01:54] <bddebian> Oh.  Mine doesn't work?
[01:55] <lfittl> yours does work, but as I said, I tried a clean export + debian dir
[01:55] <lfittl> as I wanted to avoid the big diff
[01:55] <bddebian> How would it be any less big since you have to include the themes trunk?
[01:56] <bddebian> Or did you make your own orig.tar.gz?
[01:56] <lfittl> I created my own orig.tar.gz, I know its bad, but simply works better in this case, as we are already doing a cvs checkout and creating our own orig tarball anyway
[01:56] <bddebian> Aye
[01:57] <lfittl> so you haven't changed any paths?
[01:57] <bddebian> I'm checking, now that you mention it :-)
[01:58] <bddebian> It's been so long ago ;-P
[01:58] <lfittl> :)
[02:00] <lfittl> I will try to get the upload to ubuntu done first, as I have a sponsor for all the debian packages, and I want to send them to him in one batch
[02:00] <lfittl> and it will take some time until I have prepared my other packages for debian
[02:01] <LaserJock> wahoo, 45 min to go
[02:01] <LaserJock> I sure wish dpkg could be speaded up
[02:03] <bddebian> lfittl: Hmm, it appears I did hack attalCommon.cpp
[02:06] <lfittl> bddebian: seems like ATT_PREFIX is the way to go though, any idea how I can set this one? Environment vars don't seem to work, and I want to avoid modifying the makefiles if possible
[02:10] <bddebian> Hack config.pro or create a devel.pro?
[02:11] <lfittl> hmm
[02:11] <lfittl> no way to set this by using a parameter to qmake-qt4?
[02:12] <bddebian> Hey, I'm the dumb one here.. :-)
[02:12] <lfittl> me too, have never used qmake before ;)
[02:13] <lfittl> so its too dumb ones hacking around, that will give a nice package :D
[02:13] <bddebian> :-)
[02:13] <lfittl> s/too/two..
[02:15] <lfittl> I start to hate this package again, I have been working 2 hours on it now, I somehow knew this would happen
[02:15] <bddebian> :-)
[02:16] <lfittl> btw., I dediced to not create a package for the cyberpunk theme, it is not usable yet
[02:17] <lfittl> the reason for updating to a cvs snapshot were build fixes, right?
[02:17] <lfittl> s/build/build system/
[02:19] <LaserJock> anybody think it's ok to reject a bug that only happens with the fglrx drivers?
[02:20] <lfittl> LaserJock: which bug exactly?
[02:20] <LaserJock> Bug #46660
[02:20] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 46660 in maxima "broken" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/46660
[02:21] <gnomefreak> i think it should be changed to fglrx maybe
[02:21] <lfittl> LaserJock: try to find out what exactly breaks, and then assign it to fglrx
[02:21] <LaserJock> lfittl: cool, thanks
[02:22] <bddebian> lfittl: qmake-qt4 ATT_PREFIX=/foo/bar Makefile.pro doesn't work?
[02:22] <lfittl> bddebian: tried that one, but there is a slight possibility I had some changes applied with that, trying again
[02:23] <lfittl> LaserJock: the chance that it will get resolved is still minimal, but at least its reported somewhere ;)
[02:23] <LaserJock> yeah
[02:24] <LaserJock> and if it moves from maxima to fglrx it makes my bug count go down ;-)
[02:24] <lfittl> :)
[02:25] <lfittl> bddebian: interesting, compilation now always fails with some error about ATT_PREFIX, hmm
[02:25] <bddebian> sweet
[02:27] <lfittl> building again with original tarball + debian dir..
[02:27] <bddebian> Will fail on gcc 4.1 iirc
[02:28] <lfittl> why do you think that?
[02:28] <lfittl> attalCommon.cpp:63: error: 'ATT_PREFIX' was not declared in this scope
[02:29] <lfittl> same error I had with the previous ones, I hate that
[02:33] <bddebian> lfittl: I think I pulled from CVS because of some gcc 4.1 issues
[02:34] <lfittl> bddebian: ah, good to know, as I somehow have to mention the cvs snapshot in the debian/changelog ;)
[02:36] <lfittl> building now works again, I removed dE
[02:36] <lfittl> argh
[02:36] <bddebian> Removed what?
[02:36] <lfittl> I removed the DEB_MAKE_INVOKE line from debian/rules to test something, and forgot to add it again
[02:37] <lfittl> sry, pressed the enter key too early
[02:37] <bddebian> :-)
[02:39] <lfittl> now it works, with ATT_PREFIX added to the qmake-qt4 line, stupid me for removing DEB_MAKE_INVOKE, could have saved me lots of time not doing it ;)
[02:40] <lfittl> do you want to take a final look at the packages before I search for somebody to upload? (don't you also have upload rights for universe? that would make this part easier)
[02:49] <bddebian> Yeah, I can upload to Universe
[02:50] <slomo> bddebian?
[02:50] <bddebian> slomo: Sorry, that was for lfittl :-)
[02:50] <lfittl> bddebian: REVU or upload somewhere else?
[02:51] <bddebian> lfittl: Doesn't matter
[02:53] <lfittl> bddebian: k, one last pbuilder test build, then I will upload to REVU, finally we will have updated attal packages :)
[02:54] <bddebian> Sweet, thanks lfittl
[02:54] <lfittl> thanks too :)
[03:07] <slomo> crimsun: ping?
[03:07] <crimsun> hi
[03:07] <slomo> ah :) was your backporting yesterday successful and do you have something to test for me? :)
[03:07] <crimsun> I haven't looked at the init code (non-alsa)
[03:08] <crimsun> I'm fairly certain (95% confidence) it's not an alsa issue, and I _think_ I have a similar methodology for testing on the hardware here (laptop, however)
[03:13] <lfittl> Is there a good reason why I would want to use my @ubuntu.com address, instead of my @fsfe.org one? just wondering if this affects any tools ;)
[03:13] <lfittl> for maintainer fields and changelog entries
[03:14] <crimsun> the former are whitelisted-ACCEPT
[03:14] <crimsun> well, I guess it's moot now that we have soyuz
[03:14] <lfittl> soyuz manages this with the launchpad teams, right?
[03:14] <crimsun> so no, I guess there's no real incentive
[03:14] <lfittl> k, thanks :)
[03:16] <lfittl> bddebian: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2880
[03:16] <hub> my upload got rejected
[03:16] <hub> no reason
[03:16] <hub> *sigh*
[03:17] <hub> how can I know?
[03:17] <crimsun> it normally states the reject reason
[03:18] <crimsun> is the e-mail blank, or did you simply get no notification?
[03:18] <lfittl> bddebian: I hope the credits in the changelog file are ok this way, if you want specific changes attributed to you, tell me ;)
[03:18] <hub> crimsun: it doe snot
[03:18] <hub> the mail says
[03:18] <hub> Rejected:
[03:18] <hub> hugin 0.6-0ubuntu1 was REJECTED.
[03:18] <hub>         Component: main Section: graphics
[03:19] <hub> ah crap.
[03:19] <hub> wtf is "main"?
[03:19] <crimsun> it's the main component
[03:19] <crimsun> are you in core-dev?
[03:19] <hub> yeah but why is it?
[03:19] <hub> I'm supposed to upload to universe
[03:20] <hub> or is that an error from the NEW queue processor
[03:20] <hub> because it is not an automatic reject
[03:20] <hub> the pacakge with dput a while ago
[03:20] <crimsun>  hugin [Source]    0.6-0ubuntu2  Release  2006-08-10 16:50:05 EDT
[03:20] <crimsun> that's in the NEW queue
[03:21] <hub> ah right
[03:21] <hub> there havebeen a 2 later
[03:21] <crimsun> 1) it's still in NEW; 2) your version number is _lower_ than what's in the queue
[03:21] <hub> crimsun: where can I see the queue?
[03:21] <hub> crimsun: I uploaded 1 and 2
[03:21] <hub> make sense, I'll wait then
[03:21] <crimsun> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+queue
[03:22] <crimsun> not so mysterious :)
[03:22] <hub> yeah
[03:22] <hub> I keep that in mind
[03:25] <hub> crimsun: is it real time?
[03:26] <slomo> yes
[03:31] <slomo> hub: libccc? do you have a upstream url? :)
[03:31] <hub> http://live.gnome.org/Criawips/CriaCanvas
[03:33] <slomo> thanks
[03:34] <hub> it is missing the download link
[03:34] <hub> I think it was on herzi blog
[03:35] <bddebian> crimsun: Am I going to need a second nod before uploading attal?
[03:35] <slomo> hub: svn is fine too :) i was just curious what it is and can do
[03:49] <bddebian> do be do be doo
[03:50] <lfittl> bddebian: will go to bed now, if there are any problems with attal, ping me or write mail, thx ;)
[03:50] <lfittl> gn8 motu world
[03:53] <bddebian> lf.. gah
[03:54] <zul> do do do
[03:54] <bddebian> Anyone?  Do I need a second nod for attal to upload?
[03:55] <slomo> bddebian: is it a NEW package not synced from debian or somewhere else?
[03:59] <bddebian> slomo: It's a new release from Upstream
[04:00] <slomo> then get it up :)
[04:00] <bddebian> Uhm.. ;-)
[04:18] <imbrandon> ugh , how can this DD be getting diffrent lithian output than me ...... *thinks*
[04:20] <tseng> different lintian version?
[04:20] <tseng> runing it on different files?
[04:20] <imbrandon> he is using sid, and i'm using a sid chroot, should be the same
[04:20] <tseng> i think you can urn it on dsc or changes
[04:21] <bddebian> Or .deb
[04:21] <tseng> or .deb
[04:21] <imbrandon> hrm i'm running it on *_source.changes he is running it on _i386.changes
[04:21] <imbrandon> does that matter ?
[04:21] <ajmitch> yes
[04:21] <imbrandon> doh ok
[04:21] <imbrandon> thats the problem then
[04:23] <tseng> oh!
[04:23] <bddebian> crimsun: Still around?
[04:23] <imbrandon> ajmitch: i talked to the upstream of apt-mirror again today , he dident understand the debian/ubuntu versioning so i got him all streight and he liked my patches enough to give me svn commit access , yay \0/
[04:24] <ajmitch> good
[04:25] <zul> ...you can break it
[04:25] <tseng> imbrandon: woo
[04:25] <imbrandon> hehe
[04:25] <bddebian> If mythtv is GPL, why is it in Universe?  Because of the plugins?
[04:25] <tseng> read that line again
[04:26] <tseng> and tell us what you meant
[04:26] <imbrandon> so soon-ish i should be able just to sync it from debian to ubuntu ( with only one outstanding delta for the conf that will remain ) and upstream --> debian --> ubuntu will all finaly be in sync hehe
[04:26] <bddebian> debian/copyright says mythtv is licensed under GPL
[04:26] <tseng> you meant multiverse
[04:27] <bddebian> Oh, heh, yeah
[04:30] <bddebian> None of the deps/build-deps jump out at me as being non-free either?
[04:31] <imbrandon> dumb question , has it ALWAYS been gpl ?
[04:31] <imbrandon> dunno i've never used it so i have no idea, just shooting at the dark
[04:31] <bddebian> Hmm, it has to be something with the encoders?
[04:31] <imbrandon> s/at\ the/in\ the/g
[04:32] <bddebian> Dunno
[04:43] <bddebian> Heya LaserJock
[04:43] <LaserJock> hi bddebian
[04:51] <crimsun> bddebian: yes, the encoders.
[04:51] <crimsun> bddebian: (and no, I'm not around still.)
[04:51] <LaserJock> hmm, well getting kubuntu and xubuntu off is not working as well as I had thought :-)
[04:52] <crimsun> as in purging?
[04:52] <LaserJock> kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop that is
[04:52] <bddebian> ;-P
[04:52] <imbrandon> removing KUBUNTU , blasphmey , lol just teasin
[04:52] <LaserJock> as in going back to stock ubuntu
[04:52] <crimsun> that's straightforward. Remove libartsc* and libxfce*
[04:52] <LaserJock> imbrandon: well, it's just to dist-upgrade to edgy, then it''l be back
[04:53] <imbrandon> LaserJock: or remove kdebase*
[04:53] <LaserJock> crimsun: hmm, maybe that would have been a good idea
[04:53] <LaserJock> instead I found a long apt-get remove line on the web
[04:53] <imbrandon> heh
[04:53] <LaserJock> but for some reason it is uninstalling way more than just kubuntu and xfce stuff
[04:53] <LaserJock> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php
[04:54] <imbrandon> hrm where can i get info on getting rid of this warning http://pastebin.ca/132052
[04:54] <crimsun> well, what's in your postinst?
[04:56] <crimsun> LaserJock: the libavahi-core4 part.
[04:57] <imbrandon> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/132056
[04:57] <LaserJock> crimsun: you're talking to me?
[04:57] <bddebian> LaserJock: Well he doesn't talk to me.. ;-P
[04:57] <imbrandon> lol bddebian
[04:57] <crimsun> LaserJock: you seem surprised that it's removing "way more than just kubuntu and xfce stuff"
[04:58] <LaserJock> yeah, like latex, science apps, thunderbird, etc.
[04:58] <ajmitch> LaserJock: you're better off without kubuntu, honestly
[04:58] <zul> night
[04:58] <LaserJock> all I want to do is get down to a system I can dist-upgrade with
[04:58] <ajmitch> night zul
[04:58] <ajmitch> LaserJock: this is why I was careful
[04:58] <LaserJock> I can't seem to do it with both ubuntu and kubuntu on there
[04:58] <ajmitch> and avoided dist-upgrade for most of it
[04:58] <ajmitch> probably due to the apt upgrade
[04:59] <LaserJock> well, I'm using update-manager
[04:59] <ajmitch> recent apt ABI change, adept needs rebuilt iirc
[04:59] <LaserJock> as mdz said to try it out
[04:59] <ajmitch> fun
[04:59] <ajmitch> it does require the archive to be somewhat consistent with regards to installable packages
[05:00] <LaserJock> it seems to work, you just can't have both kubuntu and ubuntu on there or it can't resolve dependencies
[05:00] <ajmitch> as I said
[05:00] <LaserJock> anyhow, it's off and running now
[05:00] <ajmitch> uh oh, rob's here :)
[05:00] <LaserJock> took ~2hr on the computer at work :/
[05:01] <welshbyte> imbrandon: i'm just a newb but at a guess it looks like lines 33 onwards aren't needed *duck*
[05:01] <LaserJock> 30 min to download and 1 1/2 hr to install
[05:02] <rob> :)
[05:16] <bddebian> Hobbsee: So you going to be the new Kubuntu Queen? ;-)
[05:16] <Hobbsee> hi all
[05:16] <Hobbsee> bddebian: i've yet to read the meeting logs.
[05:16] <ajmitch> hello Hobbsee
[05:16] <Hobbsee> hi ajmitch
[05:16] <nictuku> hi, I'm makign a python package with cdbs and python-central, but oddly it's only running dh_python and dh_pycentral for one of the binary packages, skipping the other
[05:16] <LaserJock> mostly like "hmm, ok. whatever"
[05:17] <nictuku> what could I be missing here?
[05:18] <bddebian> nictuku: What's your build and/or install target look like in debian/rules?
[05:18] <ajmitch> nictuku: you're missing the magic to make it work on all packages?
[05:18] <crimsun> I'd override the binary-install target for each binary package that the source generates.
[05:18] <ajmitch> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPython/NewPolicy
[05:18] <ajmitch> has how to do that manually
[05:18] <LaserJock> Hobbsee: I though it was a little odd, but whatever :-)
[05:18] <ajmitch> nictuku: does it use distutils?
[05:19] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: ah right
[05:19] <nictuku> ajmitch, that way I would follow "the hard way".
[05:19] <nictuku> yes it uses distutils
[05:20] <nictuku> is this needed? include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/simple-patchsys.mk
[05:20] <ajmitch> no, it's not
[05:20] <ajmitch> with distutils it *ought* to work for each package
[05:20] <LaserJock> if you are using simple-patchsys it is isn't it?
[05:21] <crimsun> /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/simple-patchsys.mk is not necessary unless you're using it. You should not need to override binary-install if your package uses distutils.
[05:21] <nictuku> maybe my setup.py is borked
[05:22] <Hobbsee> hah.  it seems firefox really broke, looking at this meeting.
[05:22] <ajmitch> looking at python-distutils.mk, it doesn't appear to run dh_pycentral multiple times
[05:23] <nictuku> hmm
[05:23] <ajmitch> to get that, we need cdbs 0.4.45
[05:24] <ajmitch> right, looks like we need to resync with debian
[05:24] <ajmitch> requires UVF exception, of course
[05:25] <DrkLrd> how do u become a maintainer?
[05:25] <LaserJock> you learn how to package, and when you know what you are doing you can ask the Technical Board for upload rights
[05:25] <DrkLrd> ah thanks LaserJock
[05:26] <LaserJock> that's the short version
[05:26] <imbrandon> short short version ;)
[05:26] <imbrandon> hehehe
[05:26] <DrkLrd> lol
[05:26] <nictuku> I'll call dh_python and dh_pycentral manually for now, then
[05:26] <imbrandon> brb more mt dew
[05:26] <nictuku> ajmitch, thank you
[05:26] <LaserJock> but you can help out all you want without becoming an uploader
[05:26] <ajmitch> nictuku: I'll follow it up with mdz
[05:26] <LaserJock> you just have to have your work sponsored
[05:26] <DrkLrd> sponsored by whom?
[05:26] <LaserJock> a MOTU
[05:26] <imbrandon> any MOTU
[05:26] <LaserJock> a person with upload rights
[05:27] <DrkLrd> no one will sponser me cos i am very irregular here :D
[05:27] <LaserJock> that's not a problem exactly
[05:27] <crimsun> the source code speaks for itself.
[05:27] <imbrandon> DrkLrd: you can do it via LP and REVU also
[05:27] <kjm> How do you go about starting to help out?  Is there a maintained ToDo list?
[05:27] <Hobbsee> !ping
[05:27] <ubotu> pong
[05:27] <LaserJock> as long as you do good work
[05:28] <DrkLrd> !pong
[05:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pong - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:28] <DrkLrd> lol
[05:28] <imbrandon> kjm: in the /topic is a good place to start
[05:28] <kjm> :) ty
[05:28] <LaserJock> yeah, it's really hard to maintain a ToDo list
[05:28] <DrkLrd> anyone here on edgy?
[05:28] <LaserJock> but right now we are doing merge/sync to get Edgy update to Debian unstable
[05:28] <ajmitch> nearly everyone
[05:28] <imbrandon> DrkLrd: most of us
[05:28] <DrkLrd> cool
[05:28] <LaserJock> and doing bug fixes
[05:29] <DrkLrd> i am still with dapper
[05:29] <DrkLrd> finding bugs
[05:29] <DrkLrd> :D
[05:29] <LaserJock> I'm even bitting the bullet, I wasn't going to do it
[05:29] <LaserJock> but it's nice to actually try the release you are working on ;-)
[05:29] <DrkLrd> i thought of starting Teen ubuntu project
[05:29] <imbrandon> easier to see what needs fixed too
[05:29] <DrkLrd> so that teenagers can help a lot
[05:30] <DrkLrd> u know provide them with a OS that does everything
[05:30] <DrkLrd> customized ubuntu
[05:30] <LaserJock> I thought that was Ubuntu ;-)
[05:30] <imbrandon> DrkLrd: there are teen MOTU's age dosent matter much as long as you can do the work ;)
[05:30] <DrkLrd> i know that mate
[05:30] <DrkLrd> but this was other project i was goint o start :P
[05:30] <kjm> bbl - just reinstalled XfCe, wanna check it out / config away
[05:31] <DrkLrd> LaserJock, it doesnt have ROCK stars wallpapers dont play mp3 and vids by default
[05:31] <DrkLrd> but ITS COOL
[05:31] <imbrandon> cool i'm all for people helpnig but you might look into if its really needed or if you can just help ubuntu as a whole ;)
[05:31] <bddebian> Except for us old farts :-)
[05:31] <DrkLrd> imbrandon, am helpin ubuntu as much as i can
[05:31] <DrkLrd> :)
[05:31] <LaserJock> hmm, well I don't know that mp3's and vids matter, but perhaps theming might work
[05:32] <DrkLrd> LaserJock, teen want mp3 and vids mate
[05:32] <LaserJock> although I'm partial to the Ubuntu wallpaper
[05:32] <LaserJock> DrkLrd: so does everybody else
[05:32] <DrkLrd> LaserJock, there is a school exhibition mate and i cam showcasing edubuntu there  :)
[05:33] <LaserJock> ah very cool
[05:33] <DrkLrd> and will give away cd too :D
[05:33] <LaserJock> great
[05:33] <DrkLrd> damn am having problems
[05:33] <LaserJock> I'm trying to get Edubuntu at my university
[05:33] <DrkLrd> i updated
[05:34] <DrkLrd> and then mplayer and totem play a vid fine for the first time and then go haywire when i play next movie
[05:34] <DrkLrd> colours are all washed :(
[05:42] <DrkLrd> LaserJock, u on ubuntu or kubuntu?
[05:43] <imbrandon> DrkLrd: most of us use {both,all} to some extrent to test etc, we may focus in our own areas of intrest but at some point most MOTUS run them all
[05:44] <DrkLrd> cool imbrandon
[05:44] <imbrandon> s/MOTUS/MOTUs/g
[05:44] <DrkLrd> i got all 4 of em on my lappy now
[05:44] <DrkLrd> but i dont use kubuntu dunno why :)
[05:45] <imbrandon> its all personal prefrence , i personaly run kubuntu most/90% of the time
[05:45] <imbrandon> but like i said its personal prefrence
[05:46] <DrkLrd> Oo
[05:46] <DrkLrd> :)
[05:48] <LaserJock> DrkLrd: I use both
[05:48] <DrkLrd> edubuntu ?
[05:49] <LaserJock> I don't really use edubuntu as I don't have a need for LTSP
[05:49] <LaserJock> but I work on it
[05:53] <Hobbsee> bddebian: get to it
[05:53] <crimsun> (so I'm not sure what barry was asking about, since he hasn't actually addressed it? ;)
[05:54] <bddebian> crimsun: ?
[05:54] <crimsun> bddebian: what am I ignoring?
[05:54] <bddebian> I forget now :-)
[05:55] <ajmitch> senility...
[05:55] <bddebian> Heh, no kidding
[05:56] <ajmitch> I love cdbs
[05:56] <ajmitch> it's so much fun
[05:56] <DrkLrd> carthik, sup mate
[05:57] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: exactly :D
[05:57] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: I'm just trying to merge in the changes from debian that we need
[05:57] <carthik> hey DrkLrd
[05:57] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: ahhh...fun...
[05:57] <ajmitch> as I said
[06:02] <LaserJock> \o/ only 10 min of downloading left :-)
[06:08] <ajmitch> yay
[06:24] <ajmitch> ok, cdbs patches ported forward to 0.4.46
[06:25] <bddebian> Bed time for this old man.  Gnight folks
[06:25] <ajmitch> night bddebian
[06:25] <imbrandon> gnight
[06:25] <LaserJock> doh
[06:25] <LaserJock> not fast enough, again
[06:26] <ajmitch> makes compared patch hunks & applying them a lot easier
[06:26] <ajmitch> s/compared/comparing/
[06:26] <imbrandon> yup , exactly ajmitch
[06:26] <imbrandon> i love dual monitors, once i got used to them i dunno how i did without them
[06:27] <crimsun> the same way the rest of us poor folk do, vimdiff -g or its $EDITOR equiv.
[06:41] <LaserJock> I'm still on a 17" CRT here at home :/
[06:43] <kjm> kjm has 2 23" http://www.apple.com/ca/displays/specs.html
[06:44] <LaserJock> nice
[06:44] <kjm> got one from work to compliment.  They are gorgeus.
[06:45] <kjm> Upgraded from a 17" CRT.  The difference was insane
[09:44] <crimsun> hmm, my key for -security stills seems to be borked
[09:44] <crimsun> anyone free to apply a debdiff?
[09:45] <crimsun> (universe source, of course)
[09:46] <imbrandon> crimsun: sure
[09:47] <Gloubiboulga> crimsun, I'd be happy to sponsor your upload ;)
[09:47] <imbrandon> you cant uplaod ?
[09:47] <Gloubiboulga> ah, imbrandon, you're faster than I am
[09:47] <imbrandon> heh
[09:47] <crimsun> oh I can upload, but -security will silently reject it because it has a cached copy of my expired key
[09:47] <crimsun> essentially "no, I can't upload"
[09:48] <imbrandon> kk
[09:48] <crimsun> imbrandon: http://www.trilug.org/~crimsun/oprofile_0.9.1-8ubuntu0.1.debdiff
[09:49] <crimsun> dput stanza for -security:
[09:49] <crimsun> [security] 
[09:49] <crimsun> fqdn = security.upload.ubuntu.com
[09:49] <crimsun> incoming = /
[09:49] <crimsun> login = anonymous
[09:49] <imbrandon> do i need to get the dapper source ?
[09:49] <crimsun> yes
[09:49] <imbrandon> k
[09:49] <crimsun> thanks
[09:55] <imbrandon> hrm ok patch applied so now i need to debuild it with my key so it uploads in my name right since your key wont work?
[09:56] <crimsun> correct, dsc+source.changes+diff.gz will need to be signed with your key
[09:56] <crimsun> I don't mind, obviously, if you want to change the e-mail attribution in debian/changelog , too
[09:57] <imbrandon> kk done
[09:58] <crimsun> I've already OKed it by pitti, so it doesn't matter who "gets credit for the upload"  [https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/security-review/2006-August/000425.html] 
[09:58] <imbrandon> kk yea uploading now ...
[09:58] <imbrandon> oprofile (0.9.1-8ubuntu0.1) dapper-security; urgency=low
[09:58] <imbrandon>   * Sponsored upload for Daniel T Chen <crimsun@ubuntu.com>
[09:58] <imbrandon> i put that at the top
[09:59] <imbrandon> above what you added
[09:59] <crimsun> no need, really, but ok
[09:59] <imbrandon> heh wasent sure and had it done by the time you asaid so ;)
[10:00] <imbrandon> ok upload done, i dunno what ML it comes accross but you might check it as i've never uploaded to -security before
[10:00] <crimsun> you'll get an e-mail (your key)
[10:01] <imbrandon> ohh yea
[10:01] <imbrandon> lol
[10:05] <imbrandon> hrm no mail yet, hopefully it dosent silently die , http://pastebin.ca/132337
[10:14] <crimsun> I'll just have to ping elmo again. Thanks anyway.
[10:15] <imbrandon> np , sorry bout that , figured it would work heh
[10:16] <imbrandon> unless it has i dunno how to tell without the ML or a email confromation
[10:16] <imbrandon> but somehow i think it silently died
[10:18] <crimsun> I dunno (-security uses a completely different workflow).
[10:27] <StevenK> Yay!
[10:27] <StevenK> My Dapper CDs turned up!
[10:27] <crimsun> hoo-rah
[10:48] <imbrandon> okies time for bed, gnight fellas ( any ladies if any are {arround,awake} )
[11:27] <Sp4rKy> hi
[11:30] <geser> hi
[11:31] <Sp4rKy> i've some issue with libjack0.100.0-dev
[11:33] <geser> it looks like you pbuilder is messed up as the version of libc6 listed yesterday points to dapper and not edgy
[11:33] <geser> or not uptodate
[11:33] <Sp4rKy> strange
[11:33] <Sp4rKy> i've done a pbuilder update --override-config yesterday
[11:34] <Sp4rKy> Sp4rKY-laptop% grep -i edgy ~/.pbuilderrc
[11:34] <Sp4rKy> DISTRIBUTION=edgy
[11:34] <Sp4rKy> Sp4rKY-laptop% grep -i dapper ~/.pbuilderrc
[11:34] <Sp4rKy> Sp4rKY-laptop%
[11:35] <Sp4rKy> do you have a edgy pbuilder ?
[11:35] <geser> yes
[11:36] <geser> have you tried to recreate the pbuilder?
[11:36] <Sp4rKy> no
[11:36] <Sp4rKy> just update
[11:36] <Sp4rKy> go for recreate
[11:37] <Sp4rKy> root@Sp4rKY-laptop:/# apt-cache policy libc6
[11:37] <Sp4rKy> libc6:
[11:37] <Sp4rKy>   Installed: 2.3.6-0ubuntu20
[11:37] <Sp4rKy>   Candidate: 2.3.6-0ubuntu20
[11:37] <Sp4rKy> is right ?
[11:37] <Sp4rKy> do you have the same ?
[11:37] <geser>      libc6 | 2.4-1ubuntu8 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages
[11:38] <Sp4rKy> oups
[11:38] <Sp4rKy> strange
[11:38] <Sp4rKy> recreating ...
[11:39] <geser> I created my edgy pbuilder with sudo pbuilder create edgy
[11:39] <Sp4rKy> i'm doing the same
[11:39] <Sp4rKy> i hope it 'll work
[11:39] <Sp4rKy> thx
[12:33] <Sp4rKy> geser, works :D thx !!!
[12:46] <Lutin> Hi
[01:05] <Sp4rKy> hi Lutin
[01:06] <Sp4rKy> ask you question and wait for an answer
[01:21] <Seveas> neutrinomass, please join #ubuntu-bugs
[01:39] <Lutin> do you know what is the library linked with the -lm flag ?
[01:39] <thom> maths iirc
[01:39] <StevenK> The math library
[01:41] <Lutin> ok, thanks :)
[01:41] <Hobbsee> *waves
[01:42] <Seveas> ogra, hehe
[01:44] <Seveas> Hobbsee, it actually was about you
[01:44] <Seveas> Hobbsee, what happened tonight?
[01:47] <Hobbsee> Seveas: car died, called up the onroad assistance, they took about 60 min to show up, they got my car down to be somewhere where it could be towed, tow truck was supposed to come in 60 mins, so i called htem again in an hour and 40 mins.  they were lost, everything was in a shambles, they didnt want to come tow my car, etc ("you've got heaps of government busses coming thru here, you can fit a tow truck!"), they eventually came, had mum hackin
[01:47] <Hobbsee> to the dealer, etc,etc,etc....oh yeah.  and i almost walked in front of a bus in the process.  i finally got home 4 hours and 20 mins after i'd intended to.
[01:47] <Seveas> woah...
[01:47] <Hobbsee> and my phone credit ran out in the process.
[01:48] <Hobbsee> oh yeah.  and mum went thru my room as well.  grrr.
[01:49] <Fujitsu> Poor Hobbsee.
[01:49] <Hobbsee> oh yeah.  and they gave us an assignmetn to do in 51 hours.
[01:49] <Hobbsee> deadline is tomorrow, 5pm
[01:49] <Fujitsu> Terrific.
[01:49] <Hobbsee> it was up earlier, they just didnt actually bother to go and *tell* anyone about it.  or when it was due.
[01:49] <Hobbsee> just that "there is a physics assignment due sometime"
[01:50] <Seveas> Hobbsee, this was the mail ogra lol'ed about: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-August/090730.html
[01:51] <Hobbsee> Seveas: hehe!  it really was about me!
[01:51] <Seveas> Would I lie to you?
[01:51] <Hobbsee> Seveas: make sure you add in there that i dont actually use gnome at all
[01:51] <Hobbsee> true that
[01:51] <Hobbsee> i thought you were joking
[01:52] <Hobbsee> Seveas: a) i dont use gnome b) i rarely use dapper.  :P
[02:05] <Hobbsee> oh yeah.  and with the stuff earlier, the fire alarms at the uni went off too.
[04:22] <Goshawk> hi
[04:26] <Sp4rKy> hi Goshawk
[04:37] <phanatic> afternoon
[04:39] <LaserJock> grr
[04:40] <LaserJock> I can't seem to get edgy upgrades to work well
[04:41] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: how so?
[04:41] <LaserJock> I've tried 3 and I usually have major problems
[04:41] <LaserJock> last nights try now won't boot
[04:42] <Hobbsee> ah
[04:42] <LaserJock> I mean, obviously it's Edgy and all
[04:42] <LaserJock> but it'd be nice to actually be able to try it out sometime
[04:52] <selinuxium> Hi all, I have just changed jobs which has freed up some time. So I want to get more involved. Is there a London LUG or something where I can get some mentoring? Or can I do that online>
[04:52] <selinuxium> ?
[04:52] <LaserJock> online is probably best for MOTU work
[04:52] <Hobbsee> there's definetly a London LUG, i expect
[04:53] <selinuxium> Hi LaserJock, I think I spoke to you about a year ago on this subject!
[04:54] <thom> Hobbsee: there is, but i doubt GLLUG will be too interested in ubuntu mentoring
[04:54] <selinuxium> Possibly less. I keep wanting to get more involved but the world gets in the way....
[04:54] <Hobbsee> ah
[04:55] <selinuxium> Hi Hobsee, The UK edition of Linux Format Magazine is nearly 50% Ubuntu with pics of dholbach and sabdfl !
[04:56] <selinuxium> So is the easiest way to help still to do some packaging?
[04:56] <LaserJock> work on bugs, merge packages from Debian into Edgy
[04:58] <selinuxium> OK I now have a laptop that I can use in the lounge so the other half complains less that she doesn't see me! I will go through the Motu pages in the wiki again.
[05:06] <QuestionMarkCoun> Hello *, can anybody here give me a hint, how to setup gpg for signing my own ubuntu cd images?
[05:51] <Chons> QuestionMarkCoun: Why don't you take a look at the wiki?
[05:53] <jdong|coreduo> can pbuilder use makeopts like -j2? I want things to be a bit more utilized on my multi-core box
[05:55] <trygg> Heh, anyone know why i cant find anything when i 'apt-cache search gtk+-2.6'?
[05:56] <Gloubiboulga> search for gtk2.0 :)
[05:56] <QuestionMarkCoun> Chons: Ok, can you tell me where in the wiki?
[05:57] <trygg> Gloubiboulga: I cant find anything thats 2.6 there either. I find libgtk-something and thats already newest version
[05:58] <Gloubiboulga> trygg, are you trying to find the version 2.6 of gtk2?
[05:59] <trygg> Gloubiboulga: Heh, 'Checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.6... failed'
[05:59] <Gloubiboulga> trygg, the package you need is libgtk2.0-dev
[05:59] <trygg> Ooh. :)
[06:00] <Gloubiboulga> the 2.0 in the package name is not the version ;)
[06:00] <trygg> Yeah i get that, but i didnt know which of the libs i needed. B)
[06:00] <trygg> Thanks.
[06:01] <LaserJock> jdong|coreduo: I think it can, just man pbuilder
[06:01] <LaserJock> QuestionMarkCoun:
[06:01] <LaserJock> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[06:01] <trygg> Gloubiboulga: while were on the subject, is not mplayer supposed to be apt-getable? I only find kmplayer.
[06:02] <Gloubiboulga> trygg, when you compile something, you usaully want to install -dev packages, they contain the .h files needed to buil, and informations about the library (such as CFLAGS)
[06:03] <QuestionMarkCoun> LaserJock: thank you
[06:07] <Sp4rKy> i need some help with lintian overiting
[06:08] <penguin42> hi, I'm interested in what automated testing is performed prior to release for Ubuntu releases - I've seen the wiki/Testing page, but I'm more interested in automatic tests and things like memory use stats, and torture tests - is this the right place to ask?
[06:08] <Sp4rKy> i've wrote "audacious source: package-name-doesnt-match-sonames libaudacious3.0.0" to debian/source.lintian-overrides but i've always my error with lintian
[06:09] <bddebian> Heya gang
[06:10] <welshbyte> yo bddebian
[06:11] <bddebian> Hi welshbyte
[06:12] <Sp4rKy> hey bddebian
[06:12] <bddebian> Hi Sp4rKy.  Any luck?
[06:13] <Sp4rKy> just a few issue with audacious
[06:13] <Sp4rKy> and djplay doesn't working at all
[06:14] <bddebian> No? :-(
[06:14] <Sp4rKy> bddebian, if you have a few minutes, could you help me with lintian ovverides ?
[06:14] <bddebian> I can try
[06:14] <Sp4rKy> no, at all :(
[06:14] <Sp4rKy> thx
[06:15] <Sp4rKy> i've this !
[06:15] <Sp4rKy> s/!/:/
[06:15] <Sp4rKy> Sp4rKY-laptop% cat debian/source.lintian-overrides
[06:15] <Sp4rKy> audacious source: package-name-doesnt-match-sonames libaudacious3.0.0
[06:16] <Sp4rKy> but when i use lintian with the /deb, i've always this warning
[06:22] <Sp4rKy> bddebian (or other), any idea ?
[06:24] <bddebian> Sp4rKy: Sorry, give me a sec
[06:25] <bddebian> Sp4rKy: Did you add dh_lintian?
[06:26] <Sp4rKy> nop :|
[06:26] <Sp4rKy> how should i add it ?
[06:26] <Sp4rKy> before dh_installdeb ?
[06:27] <bddebian> Sp4rKy: Oh, it doesn't exist, nevermind
[06:29] <Sp4rKy> :)
[06:29] <bddebian> Sp4rKy: But I believe that you do have to install it into /usr/share/lintian/overrides/<package>
[06:29] <Sp4rKy> ok
[06:31] <Sp4rKy> but lintian will always say the same error even if i install it, right ?
[06:33] <Toadstool> hi everybody
[06:33] <Sp4rKy> hi Toadstool :)
[06:37] <Toadstool> Sp4rKy: if you install your override file to /usr/share/lintian/overrides/<package> as bddebian said, lintian will read this file and ski the tests listed in it
[06:37] <Toadstool> *skip even
[06:39] <penguin42> if no one has any thoughts on my testing question, any suggestions where eles to ask?
[06:40] <Sp4rKy> Toadstool, k
[06:43] <carthik> penguin42, memory use tests and torture tests are generally to see the breaking point of hardware - may I ask why you are interested in that? In any case, you are welcome at #ubuntu or #ubuntu-bugs to ask questions regarding these. This is a just a channel for packagers, sort of.
[06:44] <penguin42> carthik: I'm more interested in torture tests of the kernel - e.g. how it handles low memory; torture testing for filesystem or networking bugs; memory useage tests to know whether edgy will use more RAM than Dapper for example
[06:45] <carthik> penguin42, not so sure this is the right place to continue the conversation. Please ask at #ubuntu or #ubuntu-bugs. Thanks.
[06:46] <penguin42> ok, I've tried #ubuntu - I'll try #ubuntu-bugs
[06:46] <penguin42> thanks
[06:55] <kagou> hub, around ?
[06:57] <hub> here
[06:58] <hub> kagou: what was your question?
[06:59] <kagou> hub, i can not found hugin on launchpad or on revu.tauware.de ?!
[07:03] <kagou> hub, is it normal ?
[07:05] <hub> kagou: still in the NEW queue
[07:06] <hub> kagou: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+queue?start=0
[07:07] <hub> kagou: so it will have to wait until made available
[07:07] <hub> kagou: as for REVU, make sure you displayed "Archived" uploads
[07:07] <kagou> ok thanks hub
[07:27] <Goshawk> in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU?action=show&redirect=REVU i read: Be sure that you have a [WWW]  Launchpad account and that you have added your GPGKey to it. Then ask to [WWW]  be added to the Ubuntu Universe Contributors team. One of the REVU admins will add you then to the group (== Upload rights for REVU). i read this: To add your key, send a signed email with your GnuPG key ID asking to be added to the REVU keyring to
[07:27] <Goshawk>  <keyring@tiber.tauware.de>. One of the REVU admins will add you to the uploaders keyring and reply to your email. You don't need a password to upload packages, only to log in to the website and to reply to comments. at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/ubuntu-upload.html . What should i do to have upload rights?
[07:28] <Goshawk> sorry for this long message
[07:34] <LaserJock> you  need a gpg key
[07:34] <LaserJock> and you need to join the ubuntu-universe-contributors Launchpad team
[07:35] <Goshawk> LaserJock: already done
[07:35] <LaserJock> then upload something and see if it works
[07:35] <LaserJock> :-)
[07:35] <Goshawk> ok... so i don't need to mail the REVU admins
[07:36] <LaserJock> no
[07:36] <welshbyte> can i join that team on the off-chance that i'll be uploading something to REVU in the nearish future? :)
[07:37] <LaserJock> it's open to anybody
[07:37] <bddebian> Heya LaserJock
[07:37] <welshbyte> groovy
[07:37] <LaserJock> hi bddebian
[07:41] <welshbyte> now i just need to wait for the cd burning bug to get fixed so i can test my package on edgy
[08:11] <DrkLrd> sup LaserJock
[08:14] <LaserJock> hi DrkLrd
[08:32] <LaserJock> yes, I think a BddebianForXGod page might be appropriate ;-)
[08:33] <mc44> ha
[08:33] <bddebian> I truly appreciate the love and admiration I get around here... ;-P
[08:34] <LaserJock> that's good
[08:35] <LaserJock> we don't want you to feel like we hate you or anything
[08:35] <bddebian> heh
[08:35] <mc44> I just hope they are expanding the dev team rather than iwj, doko and BenC having quit :-/
[08:35] <thom> mc44: those three people have far bigger roles than just the stuff listed on the jobs page
[08:35] <thom> so no worries there i think
[08:36] <mc44> excellent :)
[08:47] <Sp4rKy> Toadstool, doesn't works :/
[09:50] <lfittl> Somebody have some time to approve 4 sync bugs? (bug #56451, #56453, #56454, #56455)
[09:50] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56451 in gnustep-examples "[Sync Request]  gnustep-examples 1:1.0.0-2" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/56451
[09:50] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56453 in gtamsanalyzer.app "[Sync Request]  gtamsanalyzer.app 0.42-2" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/56453
[09:50] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56454 in gworkspace "[Sync Request]  gworkspace 0.7.0-1.2" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/56454
[09:50] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56455 in helpviewer.app "[Sync Request]  helpviewer.app 0.3-3" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/56455
[10:02] <crimsun> lfittl: done.
[10:02] <lfittl> crimsun: thanks :)
[10:07] <bddebian> lfittl: Aren't you an MOTU yet? :-)
[10:08] <lfittl> bddebian: not yet, I know Technical Board Meeting is now, but I don't think I have enough recent work, will apply when the next meeting comes ;)
[10:09] <lfittl> bddebian: basic problem is, although I have those 10 packages maintained (and now 11 with attal), most of them did not have an upload except the initial one, because there were no bugs or new upstream versions
[10:09] <crimsun> there are a dozen or so -dev applicants I've never heard of
[10:10] <lfittl> bddebian: and that makes it look like I am not doing that much packaging work ;)
[10:11] <lfittl> is there no cleanup script that removes them after some time?
[10:16] <phanatic> lfittl: is your bzr management tool available for download?
[10:16] <lfittl> phanatic: there is not much there yet, just calling some bzr stuff from PHP, I could make a bzr branch of it though if you are interested
[10:16] <bddebian> lfittl: Ah
[10:17] <phanatic> lfittl: i'm really interested, so if you have a little time, please put up a branch somewhere. thanks :)
[10:18] <lfittl> phanatic: k, give me 20 mins to add licenses and stuff :)
[10:18] <phanatic> lfittl: k :)
[10:19] <lfittl> phanatic: are you also interested in the database structures that are needed for it to run? (basically user auth table + branch information, postgresql)
[10:20] <phanatic> lfittl: of course, since i'd like to test it, too :)
[10:21] <Toadstool> re
[10:21] <bddebian> Bah, no better test than production ;-P
[10:21] <bddebian> wb Toadstool
[10:22] <lfittl> :)
[10:23] <lfittl> phanatic: hmm, sshfs won't work, add another 10 min to that
[10:24] <Toadstool> hey bddebian
[10:24] <phanatic> lfittl: okay, i'll be here till midnight (i'm pretty sure we're in the same tz)
[10:25] <lfittl> phanatic: good, and you're right, we are in the same tz :)
[10:27] <Toadstool> gnomefreak: around?
[10:28] <gnomefreak> yep
[10:28] <Toadstool> hi
[10:28] <gnomefreak> hi :)
[10:29] <Toadstool> have you seen that the sync for gnomebaker's been rejected?
[10:29] <gnomefreak> yeah
[10:29] <Laser_away> so was there a TB meeting or no?
[10:29] <gnomefreak> Laser_away: not really
[10:29] <sander_> Hello. I'be been waiting over a month now for a sync from Debian for my package. Could anyone take a look at it? I think it's fallen though the cracks :-)
[10:29] <Toadstool> gnomefreak: d'you want to prepare a "merge"?
[10:29] <gnomefreak> Toadstool: im not sure how to doa  manual merge
[10:29] <lfittl> phanatic: oh, and you will need some rewrite rules too, I will add mine for lighttpd, but if you use apache you have to write them yourself ;)
[10:29] <gnomefreak> and im leaving town til sunday tomorrow morning
[10:30] <phanatic> lfittl: i hope that will be the biggest issue ;)
[10:30] <Toadstool> hi LaserJock
[10:30] <lfittl> phanatic: me too ;)
[10:31] <gnomefreak> is there any docs on how to do a manual merge that i can look at see if i have time tonight to run through it
[10:31] <Toadstool> gnomefreak: crimsun's MOTU School session ;)
[10:31] <Toadstool> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/Merging-and-Syncing
[10:31] <gnomefreak> yeah i got lost in that
[10:33] <Toadstool> gnomefreak: basically, you just have to get the magical script on merges.ubuntu.com, have it grab the different package version for you and then merge-buildpackage the merged package
[10:36] <LaserJock> I also have a bit of a merge tutorial in the packaging guide
[10:36] <LaserJock> but it's a bit outdate
[10:36] <LaserJock> d
[10:37] <gnomefreak> thats it?
[10:38] <gnomefreak> i dont have to manually go into files change things rebuild than merge?
[10:38] <LaserJock> well, you have to figure out why an ubuntuX package was there in the first place
[10:38] <Toadstool> yep
[10:39] <LaserJock> and make any changes necessary to keep that
[10:39] <gnomefreak> the report tells me that i thought
[10:39] <gnomefreak> let me grab the packages real fast
[10:41] <bddebian> sander_: What is it?
[10:42] <Toadstool> gnomefreak: hmm, if they are conflicting diff between the ubuntu and debian versions, you'll have to check whether you want to keep ubuntu specific changes in the package (which I doubt since you and I have already checked the package for the sync)
[10:43] <sander_> it's gnome-hearts. It hit debian on July 5 before UVF and it's still not in edgy. See bug 53544
[10:43] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 53544 in Ubuntu "Please sync gnome-hearts from Debian" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/53544
[10:43] <bddebian> sander_: I'll try to take a look
[10:43] <sander_> Thanks :-)
[10:43] <Toadstool> gnomefreak: if you want to "justify" the sync, merge the icon path thing in the desktop file ;)
[10:44] <Toadstool> s/sync/merge/
[10:44] <kagou> hub, i can't find information on "iie". Do you have a link for ?
[10:44] <gnomefreak> im having issues runnign the script atm
[10:47] <gnomefreak> ok its grabbing the files
[10:47] <hub> kagou: somewhere
[10:48] <hub> kagou: http://dev.mmgsecurity.com/projects/iie/
[10:48] <hub> found with google
[10:48] <LaserJock> ok, so I'm 0 for 2 today with edgy upgrades :/
[10:49] <kagou> thnx hub (i'm doing modifications on photo team page)
[10:59] <hub> where is the best place to ask about adding thieself to Planet? mostly a bzr issue
[10:59] <gnomefreak> LaserJock: do you have your how to on merges handy?
[11:02] <LaserJock> gnomefreak: it's in the Packaging Guide (look on help.ubuntu.com)
[11:03] <gnomefreak> k i think i have that page
[11:03] <gnomefreak> ty
[11:06] <Toadstool> good night everybody
[11:06] <bddebian> Whoa, just booted DSL on my Windows machine.. Pretty cool
[11:06] <bddebian> Gnight Toadstool
[11:06] <gnomefreak> Toadstool: since we both looked at it and decided that debians is newer all i really have to do is merge-buildpackage?
[11:06] <gnomefreak> night
[11:09] <lfittl> phanatic: just doing some quick bug fixes, expect it in 15 mins ;)
[11:09] <phanatic> lfittl: great :)
[11:20] <bddebian> Later folks
[11:28] <lfittl> phanatic: creating the branch now, that takes some minutes again, sry
[11:28] <phanatic> lfittl: no problem, i can wait :)
[11:28] <lfittl> phanatic: good :)
[11:40] <lfittl> phanatic: http://projects.ixios-software.com/bzr-wmt
[11:41] <phanatic> lfittl: thanks a lot :)
[11:41] <lfittl> phanatic: no problem, please report bugs, there is a good chance there is a lot of them still in there, and remember its in early development ;)
[11:42] <lfittl> phanatic: will create a launchpad product for it, makes the bug reporting part easier :)
[11:43] <phanatic> lfittl: great, expect to hear some stuff from me :) i'll have something to play around for the trip tomorrow :)
[11:43] <lfittl> phanatic: perfect, mail me if you have questions and I am not online
[11:44] <phanatic> lfittl: k
[11:45] <lfittl> phanatic: one last note, GeSHI is only required if you want to use view.php, and you need the development version, not the stable one
[11:45] <phanatic> lfittl: what's GeSHI btw? :)
[11:46] <lfittl> phanatic: Generic Syntax Highlighter -> http://qbnz.com/highlighter/ ;)
[11:47] <lfittl> phanatic: useful tool if you want to highlight something in PHP
[11:47] <phanatic> lfittl: oh, good to know, thanks :)