[12:01] <anabain> why thers is no resolv.conf file in ubuntu?
[12:01] <Warbo> anabain: There is for me
[12:01] <trygg> Hm, my ubuntu keeps locking up on me randomly. Can i look somewhere what it can depend on?
[12:02] <kjm> anabain :  The correct question would be why is there no resolv.conf file on YOUR Ubuntu
[12:02] <posthuman> whats a common gnome cd burner?
[12:02] <cica> anyone here have flash player 7 installed on their system?
[12:02] <sbarn> TheGateKeeper, I was wondering if ubuntu was working on their patched 2.6.17 kernel. I dont want the vanilla kernel
[12:02] <Warbo> nautilus
[12:02] <posthuman> does anyone know? :p
[12:02] <anabain> Warbo, really? then what should I install? kjm?
[12:02] <Warbo> or gnomebaker
[12:02] <tuliomgui> posthuman: k3b
[12:02] <NemesisUK> posthuman, gnomeburner
[12:02] <posthuman> ok thanks
[12:02] <TooTallJones> anyone want to try helping me out with cdrom problems?
[12:02] <jayt> trygg, have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions it might be useful
[12:02] <trygg> posthuman: bonfire also works.
[12:02] <cica> !flashplayer
[12:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:02] <kjm> trygg : look in /var/log
[12:02] <compengi> posthuman, k3b works on ubuntu
[12:03] <TooTallJones> I get unable to mount: too many levels of symbolic links when trying to open a cd.
[12:03] <TooTallJones> this all happened after I installed cedega
[12:03] <posthuman> k :)
[12:03] <Raubkopierer> how i can get the driver for my ITE IT8212 IDE/Raid controller into ubuntu because it dont boot...
[12:03] <lior83> can you help me? I upgraded my ubuntu to dapper and now my cdrom and usdbdoesn't works, its not in the kernel or config files, may be its a module that not loaded, what module should i look for? i see the usbcore and cdrom modles
[12:03] <TheGateKeeper> sbarn: sorry don't really know, those howto's I found as I was scanning the howto's for usefull bits & pieces
[12:03] <lior83> what can i do?
[12:03] <Warbo> TooTallJones: That sounds like there is a link which points to a link (ie. no real file)
[12:03] <sbarn> TheGateKeeper, oic
[12:03] <kjm> anabain : apt-cache search resolv.conf
[12:04] <bestial-> I need some serious help
[12:04] <anabain> ok, thanx a lot
[12:04] <TooTallJones> Warbo: yeah I think so too, i'm not sure how to resolve it though =x
[12:04] <tyler_d> gaining permissions to access to my ntfs hard drive any help?
[12:04] <pau1> hi can anybody help? i installed ubuntu and although my hard drive is showing in the disc admin area i cannot use it
[12:04] <pau1> second ahrd drive
[12:04] <lior83> :(
[12:05] <kjm> paul : Is it mounted?
[12:05] <pau1> no it will not mount kjm
[12:06] <kjm> Can you paste the command and any errors you get from mounting?
[12:06] <trygg> Nope, cant find anything in /var/log/,
[12:06] <trygg> Man this sucks.
[12:06] <pau1> kjm:  error: device /dev/hdb1 is already mounted to /
[12:06] <pau1> error: could not execute pmount
[12:06] <kjm> trygg : you looked through /var/log/syslog ?  There maybe something in there showing you what's going on.....
[12:06] <bestial-> I rebooted my computer, and when Ubuntu where loading and I though that the login-screen where ought to come up I got a message that there was some problems with X.
[12:07] <bestial-> Some graphical-problems and that I had to do something i xorg.
[12:07] <trygg> kjm: i looked there, and i could find where it says "reboot", but nothing particular before it.
[12:07] <kjm> paul : Have you checked if you can see the volume in /media, or /mnt?
[12:07] <Raubkopierer_> ...
[12:08] <kjm> trygg : kk, if something major was hanging the system it should be noted somewhere in one  of those log files......so, I dunno.
[12:08] <pau1> kjm: not in media or mnt
[12:08] <Raubkopierer_> can somebody help me please?
[12:08] <jayt> !ask
[12:08] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:08] <NemesisUK> trygg, are you overclocking or is your computer getting hot?
[12:09] <tyler_d> help me get onto my ntfs file system
[12:09] <tyler_d> ?
[12:09] <FunnyHat> !ntfs
[12:09] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[12:09] <FunnyHat> !fuse
[12:09] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:09] <tyler_d> funnyhat: already done that
[12:09] <FunnyHat> weird.
[12:09] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, what errors are you getting?  or what's not working?
[12:09] <tyler_d> funnyhat: says that I don't have the correct permissions?
[12:10] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, probably relating to your line in /etc/fstab file
[12:10] <kjm> NTFS have to be mounted as root AFAIK
[12:10] <Raubkopierer_> i cant boot my system... it says that hhd2 dont exist...
[12:10] <tyler_d> funnyhat: so how would I go about changing that?
[12:10] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, are you throwing the stuff into /etc/fstab or just running a line in the console like mount -p etc. etc.
[12:10] <pau1> ?
[12:10] <Locke> gah
[12:10] <Cunali> I attempted to boot up Ubuntu with the AMD64 Live CD, however shortly after it begins booting up the GUI, it simply freezes and doesn't progress any further. Though I do hear the ubuntu start up sound. I was suggested to turn acpi off at boot, but that didn't seem to work either. I have an AMD 64 3800 & Nvidia 7800GT. It does get some weird video artifacting, could it be my video card? CTRL+ALT+F1 also doesn't do anything
[12:10] <posthuman> o.O
[12:11] <posthuman> netsplit?
[12:11] <Cunali> hmm gotta love the netsplits
[12:11] <kjm> ouch, problems in paradise
[12:11] <posthuman> lol
[12:11] <Raubkopierer_> LOL
[12:11] <Locke> i just got split off undernet earlier today too
[12:11] <Raubkopierer_> LOOOOL
[12:11] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: just going to places computer and trying to access it there
[12:11] <jayt> bestial-, try this - log in to a terminal, >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << run that command - and unless you have been playing with xgl it may restore to something useful, if  you have been playing with xgl you need to be in the channel #ubuntu-xgl
[12:11] <posthuman> i got lost on one of those once, and suddenly i was in an empty room
[12:11] <posthuman> i stayed there wondering where everyone went
[12:11] <posthuman> lol
[12:11] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, ahh ok, that's because the drive is not actually mounted probably
[12:11] <pau1> can anybody help with my disc problem?
[12:11] <Locke> k anyone know how i can change hdc3 to hde3 in my grub
[12:11] <Locke> since it wont boot without it
[12:11] <tyler_d> FunnyHat:how would I mount it through term?
[12:11] <connyosis> ouch, thats a netsplit for ya
[12:12] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, give me a second to get a console line for you
[12:12] <FunnyHat> !ntfs
[12:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[12:12] <NemesisUK> Cunali, can you press ctrl + alt + F1 and get to a command line?
[12:12] <trygg_> I think its my graphiccard that gets overheated, can i check the temp on it somehow?
[12:12] <Cunali> NemesisUK, i tried that, and it does nothing :(
[12:12] <Locke> i just swapped mobos, power supplies, and everything else about 6 times last night and this is what i came up with hehe
[12:12] <Warbo> Locke: press "e" in GRUB, then when it is booted change /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:12] <Locke> e huh
[12:12] <Locke> ok lemme try
[12:12] <NemesisUK> Cunali, can you boot up in single user mode?
[12:12] <bestial-> jayt, but how do I get to the terminal if I cant logon to Ubuntu
[12:12] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: I have already done that, and it didn't let me access it
[12:13] <jayt> bestial-, if you can't log on "CTRL ALT F1" at the same time
[12:13] <Cunali> NemesisUK, perhaps...if I knew what that is or how? o.o (sorry, bit of a linux newbie :( )
[12:13] <Raubkopierer_> i cant boot my ubuntu... how can i bind the driver for my ITE IT8212 IDE/Raid controller in ubuntu when i cant boot it?
[12:13] <TooTallJones>  what's the register command again? so I can PM
[12:13] <BlueEagle> cunali: Grub doesn't know hdc or hde.
[12:13] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, you mounted it to a directory in your system somewhere?
[12:13] <Raubkopierer_> <- noob
[12:13] <RichW> kjm: the framebuffer fixed it yay..
[12:13] <NemesisUK> Cunali, at boot you have the option to press escape to get to the grub boot menu
[12:14] <BlueEagle> cunali: You will however want to change from (hd2,2) to (hd4,2)
[12:14] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, that does not make sense because if it was correctly mounted then you would be able to access it, however the links in the Computer area under places do not necessarily work if done manually
[12:14] <kjm> RichW : Awesome!  Glad I could help.
[12:14] <Locke> k changed it
[12:14] <RichW> kjm: will the framebuffer affect video performance at all?
[12:14] <Locke> its waiting for filesystem now
[12:14] <bestial-> jayt: then the terminal should come up
[12:14] <bestial-> ?
[12:14] <BlueEagle> cunali: (provided hda, hdb and hdd are harddrives
[12:14] <kjm> RichW : It shouldn't AFAIK.
[12:14] <Raubkopierer_> help... i need somebody...
[12:14] <Raubkopierer_> :(
[12:14] <Cunali> NemesisUK, okie, then what?
[12:14] <RichW> kjm: nice :)
[12:14] <BlueEagle> cunali: if any of them are CD-Roms you'll need to subtract some
[12:14] <jayt> bestial-, it should and you use ctrl alt f7 to get back the gui
[12:14] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: I followed the directions and installed diskmounter
[12:14] <pau1> any ideas for me kjm? :(
[12:15] <BlueEagle> cunali: if (when in grub) you type (hd and press TAB you'll get a list of devices)
[12:15] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, hmmm... I don't like dismounter... I can help you do it manually quickly that I think will work quite well
[12:15] <bestial-> jayt: but, thats the problem, I cant login to the GUI
[12:15] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: sure lets try it
[12:15] <tyler_d> FunnyHat:
[12:15] <Raubkopierer_> i cant boot my ubuntu... how can i bind the driver for my ITE IT8212 IDE/Raid controller in ubuntu when i cant boot it?
[12:15] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, pop open a terminal and type the following: sudo pico /etc/fstab
[12:15] <Spydon> !mp3
[12:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:15] <NemesisUK> Cunali, from the live cd, check out the help sections F1 etc and you should be able to choose what vid driver you use. Try Vesa
[12:15] <Locke> how about the root (0,1)
[12:15] <Cheate1> Hi, I am trying to install ubuntu
[12:15] <Locke> is it possible that needs changing too
[12:16] <jayt> bestial-, you go to terminal - you log in - you use command already given - you move back to gui "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:16] <Cunali> BlueEagle, I have two hard drives. HDA is my windows drive. HDB is what I'd like to use for my linux installation. It's a clean 80gig drive unpartitioned yet
[12:16] <Locke> it didnt boot with just the hde change
[12:16] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: ok
[12:16] <bestial-> jayt: Ill try
[12:16] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, do you see a line that looks like this:
[12:16] <damian_> how do you install an icon theme in gnome
[12:16] <Locke> oh wait nevermind
[12:16] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, /dev/hda1 /media/window ntfs ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[12:16] <Cheate1> I have a laptopwith 2 hard drives. The internal already has windows xp, and I am trying to install to the external one
[12:16] <Locke> i didnt boot with the customfile
[12:16] <Locke> i just went back
[12:16] <Cunali> NemesisUK, well, I was reading that nvidia cards require an extra binary driver to work properly. Could that be the problem?
[12:16] <Locke> and booted with the same one lol
[12:16] <damian_> I want to install this theme:
[12:16] <damian_> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=31618
[12:16] <tyler_d> Funnyhat: yes
[12:16] <Seventh> I accidentally renamed a '.htaccess' file to '..' inside /var/www/subdir/, and now i cannot access the www root from ftp or cpanel. What to do?
[12:16] <Cheate1> The installation went fine, I just can't boot ubuntu
[12:16] <damian_> but don't know what to do
[12:17] <Cheate1> grub doesn't even show up
[12:17] <NemesisUK> Cunali, not just to use the live cd
[12:17] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, please paste that line
[12:17] <tyler_d> Funnyhat: /dev/hdd1 /media/hdd1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[12:17] <BlueEagle> cunali: then your windows drive will be (hd0) and your linux drive will be (hd1). Partitions on the linux drive will be (hd1,*)
[12:17] <Blinker> Cheate1 - did you change your bios boot settings to allow you to boot from the external?
[12:17] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, ok, go to Places - Home Folder
[12:18] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: ok
[12:18] <TooTallJones> I'm new to linux and my cdroms give mount: too many levels of symbolic links when i try to use them(happened after I installed cedega) anyone mind trying to help me through this?
[12:18] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, Now click the button labeled "Up" twice
[12:18] <Cunali> NemesisUK, oh okie...so at the ubuntu screen I should press F1 and choose the vesa display driver...then escape to go to grub menu, and then? o.o
[12:18] <Cheate1> It is able to boot from usb devices. But when i tried booting from the external hard drive, nothing happened
[12:18] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: ok
[12:18] <Locke> ok i'm now in recovery mode
[12:18] <BlueEagle> cunali: What was the problem again?
[12:18] <Locke> now i'm changing hdc to hde in my menu.lst
[12:18] <pau1> can anybody help me get my second hard drive working?
[12:18] <NewtoUbuntu> Hey guys the other day i installed a printer and it worked fine however today it is not printing at all when i try to print something it prints a blank page, when i do the test page it prints without a problem, The Printer is A Hp Deskjet 882c, im using dapper drake, Can any1 help me or tell me a channel where i can get help?
[12:18] <Blinker> Cheate1 - make sure it's not only enabled, but appears on the list before HDD boot
[12:18] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, click on the directory labeled "Media"
[12:18] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: I"m there
[12:18] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, and then open the directory labeled hdd1
[12:18] <NemesisUK> Cunali, boot it as normal and hopefully it'll work
[12:19] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, Is it showing you the files for that drive that you were trying to access?
[12:19] <sbassett> pau1: should be easy, what type is it?
[12:19] <BlueEagle> pau1: Not unless you can tell us why it's not working. Did you try: sudo fdisk -l
[12:19] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: hdd1 shown with an x in the top right
[12:19] <Cheate1> I manually selected to boot from the usb device, so I know it was booting off it
[12:19] <Cunali> BlueEagle, when booting from the LiveCD, it gets the point of loading the GUI and I hear the initial ubuntu startup sound. but then everything freezes. sometimes i can move mouse, sometimes i cant. and cant do anything else
[12:19] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, it's empty?
[12:19] <Cunali> NemesisUK, ok, so vesa display driver and boot normally?
[12:19] <NewtoUbuntu> Hey guys the other day i installed a printer and it worked fine however today it is not printing at all when i try to print something it prints a blank page, when i do the test page it prints without a problem, The Printer is A Hp Deskjet 882c, im using dapper drake, Can any1 help me or tell me a channel where i can get help?
[12:19] <BlueEagle> cunali: I see. Are you using IDE discs?
[12:19] <NemesisUK> Cunali, yup
[12:19] <Blinker> Cheate1 - did you set the bootable flag on the external's partition?
[12:19] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: no no... has cdrom cdrom0 floppy floppy0 and hdd1
[12:19] <pau1> sbassett is a fireball 4.3gb. installed ubuntu, shows it in disc manager as a extended 3 file system but will not mount
[12:19] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, ooh ok, open up hdd1
[12:19] <sulo_> hi
[12:19] <Cunali> BlueEagle, yes, both drives are IDE as well as both DVD/DVDRW drives
[12:19] <Cheate1> I don't know, is that set automatically in the installation?
[12:19] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: says I don't have permissions
[12:20] <Blinker> Cheate1 - no
[12:20] <Cheate1> then how do I set it
[12:20] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, strange....  give me a second
[12:20] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: k
[12:20] <NewtoUbuntu> any1 here who can help me with my printer or point me to a channel where i might get help?
[12:20] <sulo_> im trying to install XGL on Xubuntu ... but get errors because of old packeges oO
[12:20] <sbassett> pau1 - ide? primary or secondary, master or slave?
[12:20] <BlueEagle> cunali: Have you set either of the four IDE devices to "Auto Select"? I know that's confused installers before. Not sure if that should be an issue now tho.
[12:20] <sulo_> i didn't finde anything about that in the tuts
[12:20] <sulo_> anyone had the save problems?
[12:20] <sulo_> and can tell me how to solve them
[12:21] <Cunali> BlueEagle, well, I can't even get to the point of the installer. It won't even load up the Ubuntu Live CD completely.
[12:21] <Blinker> Cheate1 - partition editors will do it for you - one sec.
[12:21] <pau1> sbasset: ide, slave
[12:21] <pau1> Disk /dev/hda: 6488 MB, 6488294400 bytes
[12:21] <pau1> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 788 cylinders
[12:21] <pau1> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[12:21] <pau1>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[12:21] <pau1> /dev/hda1   *           1         752     6040408+  83  Linux
[12:21] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, are you familiar with pastebin?
[12:21] <pau1> /dev/hda2             753         788      289170    5  Extended
[12:21] <pau1> /dev/hda5             753         788      289138+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[12:21] <FunnyHat> !pastebin
[12:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:21] <pau1> Disk /dev/hdb: 4310 MB, 4310433792 bytes
[12:21] <pau1> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 524 cylinders
[12:21] <BlueEagle> cunali: I am talking about the hardware jumpers on the backs/sides of the devices.
[12:21] <pau1> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[12:21] <pau1>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[12:21] <FunnyHat> paul, PLEASE stop
[12:21] <pau1> /dev/hdb1   *           1         510     4096543+  83  Linux
[12:21] <Blinker> Cheate1 - are you already familiar with linux or are you a new user?
[12:21] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell pau1 about pastebin
[12:21] <Cheate1> I'm new
[12:21] <Cunali> But no, none of my drives are set to auto select. All the jumpers are set to the proper master/slave configuration
[12:21] <pau1> sorry :(
[12:21] <NewtoUbuntu> Hey can any1 help me with my printer or point me to a place where i can get help?
[12:21] <Blinker> Cheate1 - slide over to channel #blinker and i'll help ya out
[12:21] <BlueEagle> pau1: shame on you
[12:22] <sbassett> pau1: easy on the output :)
[12:22] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste the results of this command in a terminal: for i in /dev/[hs] d[a-z] ; do sudo fdisk -l $i; done
[12:22] <Cheate1> k once sec
[12:22] <jayt> crimsun, I have to go, unfortunately I have to get up early in the morning :-( thanks for the attention, maybe I can call back tomorrow
[12:22] <Blinker> np
[12:22] <Canute> So i'm trying to install a new driver for my wireless network card, how do I find out what it is?
[12:22] <zzsputnik> hallo
[12:22] <NewtoUbuntu> any1 here help me with my printer?
[12:22] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell canute about wireless
[12:22] <jayt> !de
[12:22] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:22] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, then throw me the link that you get after submitting that paste so I can see the output
[12:23] <NewtoUbuntu> is that english?
[12:23] <zzsputnik> can somebody help me with manually resizing my desktop
[12:23] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: That depends on what's wrong with your printer.
[12:23] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, also, if you could paste your entire /etc/fstab file that would be helpful
[12:23] <pau1> what do you think?
[12:23] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: It helps to ask a question and not asking if you can ask a question.
[12:23] <NewtoUbuntu> BlueEagle: the other day i installed a printer and it worked fine however today it is not printing at all when i try to print something it prints a blank page, when i do the test page it prints without a problem, The Printer is A Hp Deskjet 882c, im using dapper drake, Can any1 help me or tell me a channel where i can get help?
[12:23] <Cunali> BlueEagle, I'm going to try NemesisUK's suggestion of choosing an alternative display driver, and see what happens with that. If that doesn't work, guess can start trying other things ^_^
[12:23] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: ok
[12:23] <harisund> what kernel package is the best for turion64 32 bit kernel? 686 or k7 or k8 or ????
[12:23] <andy912> Hi all sup
[12:24] <BlueEagle> pau1: I think /dev/hda* is one of your disks and /dev/hdb1 is the first partition of your second disk.
[12:24] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: which Cups driver are you using?
[12:24] <pau1> why can i not access second disk blue?
[12:24] <BlueEagle> cunali: kk
[12:24] <NewtoUbuntu> Sorry, im new and i dont know what a cups driver is
[12:24] <zybreak> hi, i just installed 6.06.1. and i think i found a bug in xorg.conf, the script which generated the file put in a resolution called "1024x1024"
[12:24] <FunnyHat> harisund, well, 64bit support for apps with a 64 bit kernel is not what i would call stable quite yet, so i would stick with 686 probably
[12:24] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: ls -l on shows this.. dr-x------ 1 root root 12288 2006-08-13 21:29 hdd1
[12:24] <BlueEagle> pau1: Ehh.. have you tried mounting it?
[12:25] <pau1> yes, it wont mount :(
[12:25] <BlueEagle> pau1: Ok. Which error message are you getting?
[12:25] <harisund> FunnyHat so both of k7 and k8 are for 64 bit? I am running a 32 bit kernel (regular Ubuntu, not AMD64 UBuntu) only
[12:25] <BlueEagle> pau1: and which command are you using when you are trying to mount it?
[12:25] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, whoah.  Did you format your drive completely when you installed ubuntu?  Are you sure that there is more than one partition (let alone a windows partition) in your computer?
[12:25] <pau1> i am just double clicking on the icon
[12:25] <Locke> OK
[12:25] <pau1> error: device /dev/hdb1 is already mounted to /
[12:25] <pau1> error: could not execute pmount
[12:26] <Locke> im booted, but its still trying to check hdc3
[12:26] <zybreak> it clearly should be "1024x768" and after a manual change it worked fine
[12:26] <tyler_d> there is more then one partition on that drive
[12:26] <Locke> it stops during bootup and wants me to manually check it
[12:26] <Locke> so i resume bootup, and it gets all the way till the nvidia logo screen comes up
[12:26] <TCK0> anyone here having problems with beep-media-player randomly pausing ?
[12:26] <FunnyHat> harisund, no, k7 is still 32 bit, and k8 iirc is also 32bit...  but it is a safe bet to go with 686 compiled packages for any modern chip
[12:26] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: There is more then one partition. and that one was a windows part
[12:26] <bruenig> pau1, what is your problem?
[12:26] <Locke> then it tries to start a few times and then wont
[12:26] <BlueEagle> pau1: I see. Well if you open ie. a terminal and type: cd /
[12:26] <pau1> I cannot mount my second hard drive brueing
[12:26] <Locke> in the server output it shows it trying to access /dev/wacom a bunch of times, then GLX fails
[12:27] <tuxtux> bye
[12:27] <BlueEagle> pau1: then you'll be on your root partition (which is /dev/hdb1 and your "second" disk)
[12:27] <Locke> so i was gonna reinstall my nvidia drivers, when i found out that my /home is gone
[12:27] <zzsputnik> would like to know anyhow
[12:27] <Locke> there is nothing in /home i mean
[12:27] <NewtoUbuntu> BlueEagle could u perhaps tell me what a Cups Driver is?
[12:27] <bruenig> pau1, what is the name of your second harddrive?
[12:27] <bruenig> hdb?
[12:27] <pau1> ok blue done that
[12:27] <Locke> my /usr still exists though
[12:27] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: Only if I start googling for your printer.
[12:27] <Locke> and /home is on the same partition as /, /usr is a seperate partition
[12:27] <pau1> hdb1 brueing
[12:27] <Kill_X> wtf?
[12:28] <NewtoUbuntu> Well do u knwo if it is a common problem or if there is a different chat room for this more specific topic?
[12:28] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, ok, this is a quick fix probably
[12:28] <Kill_X> harisund, where the hell do you get a K8 kernel image for i386 platform from?
[12:28] <dell500> why does my 300gb NTFS usb drive not mount?
[12:28] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: lets hope
[12:28] <NemesisUK> NewtoUbuntu, what is you printer
[12:28] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, sudo chmod -R 777 /media
[12:28] <dell500> says wrong filesystem
[12:28] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: Recommended driver: hpijs http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_882C
[12:28] <bruenig> pau1, judging from the error above, unmount it first (sudo umount /dev/hdb), then create a directory where you want to mount it (mkdir ~/hdb) sounds good, then do sudo mount /dev/hdb ~/hdb
[12:29] <NewtoUbuntu> It is a Hp Deskjet 882c
[12:29] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, then try to open up hdd1 in the file navigator that we were at before (the graphical one)
[12:29] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: its going to town on something
[12:29] <NemesisUK> NewtoUbuntu, are you in gnome?
[12:29] <BlueEagle> funnyhat: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/DEVICENAME /PATH/TO/MOUNTPOINT
[12:29] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, yes it should take a short minute
[12:29] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: lol, thats awsome, changing the permissions??
[12:29] <FunnyHat> BlueEagle, He's already mounted it, the permissions seem to be his issue
[12:29] <bruenig> hdb1
[12:29] <FunnyHat> BlueEagle, fstab appeared correct
[12:29] <NewtoUbuntu> yes i am Nemesisuk
[12:29] <bruenig> sorry I didn't name it right
[12:29] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, did it work?
[12:30] <roger> does anybody here have a working TV card?
[12:30] <darkyoshi372> How can I watch streaming H.264, or whatever format Apple is using to stream WWDC? I want to watch it.
[12:30] <BlueEagle> funnyhat:
[12:30] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: that drive is full... but it is working
[12:30] <BlueEagle> mt
[12:30] <harisund> Kill_X ok thanks for that confirmation ..guess I was getting way over my head back then seeing the number of options I had :)
[12:30] <FunnyHat> ;)
[12:30] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: I will prolly get back to you in 30 or so... lol thank-you
[12:30] <NemesisUK> ok goto gnome menu-system-administration-printing
[12:30] <pau1> it says device is busy when i try to unmount it bruenig
[12:30] <NewtoUbuntu> kk
[12:30] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, you will NOT be able to write to the dirve
[12:30] <dell500> paul what size drive?
[12:30] <Kill_X> harisund, use the k7 image
[12:30] <BlueEagle> dell500: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/DEVICENAME /PATH/TO/MOUNTPOINT
[12:30] <pau1> 4.3gb dell
[12:30] <TheGame> how do i remove volumes from my desktop
[12:30] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, there is a separate piece of software (albeit slightly unstable) that can help you with that
[12:30] <NemesisUK> NewtoUbuntu, there a printer setup gui there
[12:31] <dell500> BlueEagle, i did that, says wrong filesystem
[12:31] <TheGame> i know theres an option somewhere
[12:31] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: Don't want to, just need some pics off of it
[12:31] <BlueEagle> dell500: did you specify -t ntfs ?
[12:31] <dell500> ya
[12:31] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, awesome, I'll be afk for a while so if you have issues try asking the general channel rather than me specifically
[12:31] <bruenig> pau1, what is on /dev/hdb1? anything important or just data or nothing?
[12:31] <NewtoUbuntu> MY printer is set up and was working yesterday but today when i go to print it prints a blank Page NemesisUk
[12:31] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: fo sho mang... tyvm for your help
[12:31] <BlueEagle> dell500: sudo fdisk -l
[12:31] <pau1> brueing, there are some music and files i would like to keep if poss
[12:31] <flo> hi, how can I get a link to the garbage bin to the desktop?
[12:31] <BlueEagle> dell500: which partition type is your usb stick?
[12:31] <Kill_X> harisund, for i386... I am using that with my Athlon64... runs like hell ;)
[12:32] <TheGame> how do i remove volumes from my desktop whats the option
[12:32] <NemesisUK> NewtoUbuntu, thats strange, have you checked the #cups channel
[12:32] <harisund> Kill_X what processor do you have?
[12:32] <NewtoUbuntu> hmm no whats that channel for?
[12:32] <dell500> BlueEagle, it's a 300gb Seagate USB-SATA drive that I enclosed myself.
[12:32] <Kill_X> harisund, Athlon64 3200+, venice core.
[12:33] <harisund> Kill_X ah ok . and you are running a 32bit OS, with k7 image. That was all I needed to know. Great! Thanks a ton.
[12:33] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: still permission denied
[12:33] <Locke> anyone recommend any files to change hdc to hde in?
[12:33] <bruenig> pau1, do sudo gedit /etc/fstab and see if there is any mention of hdb1
[12:33] <BlueEagle> dell500: That didn't really answer my question.
[12:33] <harisund> I guess Turion64 is just a reworked Athlon64 for laptops, if I am not much msitaken Kill_X
[12:33] <BlueEagle> dell500: when you run `sudo fdisk -l` does the drive show up at all?
[12:33] <dell500> BlueEagle, I know sorry, fdisk says there are 4 partitions on it... not sure how that happened
[12:33] <dell500> BlueEagle, ya
[12:33] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, crappit.
[12:34] <pau1> it does mention it bruenig
[12:34] <BlueEagle> dell500: ...and which partition types are they?
[12:34] <bruenig> pau1, what is the mount point?
[12:34] <BlueEagle> dell500: and which device node is the usb/sata disk on?
[12:34] <Kill_X> harisund, Turion64 compared to Athlon64 is - as far as i know - nothing else than Athlon compared to Duron.
[12:34] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: what was the name of that software?
[12:34] <pau1> bruenig: just /
[12:34] <NewtoUbuntu> Hmm there seems to be know one currently in that channel NemesisUk
[12:34] <felipe__> Hello, which is the scrip to recongifure X server?
[12:34] <harisund> Kill_X thanks for everything.
[12:34] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, one second, I will find it for ya
[12:34] <Kill_X> harisund, never mind :o
[12:34] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: k
[12:35] <BlueEagle> felipe__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:35] <ardchoille> felipe__: You mean the command?
[12:35] <dell500> BlueEagle, i don't know which node, all the types are unknown or Novell Netware 386
[12:35] <BlueEagle> felipe__: if I remember correctly :)
[12:35] <NemesisUK> NewtoUbuntu, sometimes you have to wait awhile for someone to answer
[12:35] <NewtoUbuntu> ok
[12:35] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=mount+partition
[12:35] <BlueEagle> dell500: Please take the output from fdisk -l and put it on pastebin.
[12:35] <bruenig> pau1, you need to change that mount point to somewhere else, for instance the /home/username/hdb1 I mentioned before, or whatever you want to call it
[12:35] <felipe__> BlueEagle, thanks
[12:35] <tyler_d> I can sudo ls that drive now and see contents
[12:36] <pau1> how do i do that bruenig? I Am a newbie sorry !
[12:36] <bruenig> pau1, make sure of course that where you say you want it to mount is somewhere that exists, if you didn't make the hdb1 directory before and you do in fact put it there make sure you make that directory
[12:36] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: how can I now open it using root permissions?
[12:36] <bruenig> pau1, just change where it says mount point in the fstab file
[12:36] <Locke> my new proc is a duron 1g
[12:36] <Locke> whats the disadvantage of duron
[12:36] <dell500> BlueEagle, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20597
[12:36] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, well I suppose you could throw sudo before each command and go through the terminal:  i.e.
[12:36] <bruenig> change / to /home/username/hdb1, putting in your username of course
[12:37] <bestial-> sudo dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg where an incorrect command, according to the terminal, when I was logged in as root.
[12:37] <phuzz> does anyone have a link to setup vnc as a system service kinda thing (something like rdesktop whare you can logon/out threw the same window as the local machine)
[12:37] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, sudo cd /media/hdd1
[12:37] <tyler_d> command not found
[12:37] <Cunali> NemesisUK and BlueEagle, if you're still here, changing video driver seemed to have no effect >.>
[12:37] <harisund> Kill_X I know this probably sounds dumb, but what happens if you install, say, a k7 image on a pentium machine?
[12:37] <tyler_d> funnyhat: command not found
[12:37] <bruenig> pau1, do you not what the filesystem is? ntfs, fat32, ext3? make sure that if you do know what the file system is that the fstab has the same thing under type
[12:37] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, you typed that exactly?          sudo cd /media/hdd1
[12:38] <BlueEagle> dell500: Well, now you can partition /dev/sdc can't you? What was the problem again?
[12:38] <NewtoUbuntu> Any1 know a PRinting channel?
[12:38] <NewtoUbuntu> (Besides Cups)?
[12:38] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, oh i'm sorry
[12:38] <ezenu> does the mythtv package work in the repositories? I get hundreds of SQL syntax erros when running the setup
[12:38] <Crazed> does some one here know a good tool to control my linux box remotely using http
[12:38] <tyler_d> Funnyhat: I cut/paste it
[12:38] <NemesisUK> Cunali, can you get the alternate install cd and do it that way or do you need to use a live cd
[12:38] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, yea that will not work
[12:39] <Cunali> NemesisUK, well, it doesn't matter to me. I just wanna get it installed so I can stop using windows >.<
[12:39] <Blinker> locke, youre wondering what duron's disadvantages are?
[12:39] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, let's try to remount the hard drive quickly
[12:39] <Kill_X> harisund, basically, I don't know... You might get some serious problems due to missing 3DNow! extensions and stuff...
[12:39] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, type this
[12:39] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, mkdir /media/windows
[12:39] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdd1 /media/windows
[12:39] <Kill_X> harisund, because Intel cores miss them
[12:39] <harisund> Kill_X ok I am not going to bug you any more. Thanks again :) Catch ya later!
[12:39] <bruenig> pau1, did you get all of that?
[12:40] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, after that, try navigating to /media/windows to see if you can access your files...      I will be right back, pizza got here
[12:40] <Locke> Blinker, yeah
[12:40] <Crazed> does some one here know a good tool to control my linux box remotely using http??
[12:40] <Cunali> NemesisUK, is it much harder to install from the alternate cd?
[12:40] <Locke> not that itll influence me to put the athlon 850 back in
[12:40] <pau1> bruenig my mistake it was not there, hda1 was! hdb is not on the fstab file
[12:40] <BlueEagle> dell500: I recomend you run `sudo fdisk /dev/sdc` and remove all the partitions there and re-create the ones you want (a 300gb ntfs drive is a waste imo) and then you should be able to format them.
[12:40] <pau1> sorry
[12:40] <Crazed> something like remotelyanywhere ..
[12:40] <Kill_X> harisund, I'm here to help people, as well as people are here to help me.
[12:40] <Blinker> they run hot, and to properly utilize their speed you need to use ddr memory
[12:40] <NemesisUK> Cunali, use the alternate install cd then, it's not any harder
[12:40] <pau1> it is an ext3 system
[12:40] <BlueEagle> dell500: Also do note that linux doesn't write NTFS as of yet.
[12:40] <tyler_d> Funnyhat: mount: /dev/hdd1 already mounted or /media/windows busy
[12:40] <NewtoUbuntu> Hey When i Attempt to Enable the Community Maintained Repository it says this error
[12:40] <NewtoUbuntu> http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[12:40] <NewtoUbuntu> http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1
[12:41] <Cunali> NemesisUK, okie. Guess I'll go download that now then. Wish my internet was faster, ugh T_T
[12:41] <NemesisUK> Cunali, it just uses a text interface and is quite intuitive
[12:41] <Blinker> Locke - you'll want a high output fan on the chip + a good case fan if you plan on working it hard.
[12:41] <Crazed> tyler_d,  paste your fstab (/etc/fstan) on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:41] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, umount /dev/hdd1
[12:41] <tyler_d> Funnyhat: ok
[12:41] <Crazed> follow FunnyHat  :)
[12:41] <bruenig> pau1, ok here is what your entry should look like /dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1            ext3/ntfs/fat32    defaults              0       0 replace ext3/ntfs/fat32 with whatever it is. Just add this to the bottom of the fstab file
[12:41] <t> does anyone know a way to find the most recently edited file from a directory?
[12:42] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, then repeat that command I showed you, hitting the up arrow in console should bring it back up for you w/o having to retype it
[12:42] <newpZ> hi when i try to download big files like an iso from bittorrent, my wireless dies and the only way to get it ack working is to reboot the router... this was not a problem with 5x.. has anyone heard of this?
[12:42] <tyler_d> Funnyhat: is mounted multiple times
[12:42] <bruenig> t, you could go into nautilus, choose view as list and then click on last modified
[12:42] <pau1> it is not there brenig
[12:42] <BlueEagle> dell500: Just out of shere morbid curriousity. How did you format that drive?
[12:43] <bruenig> pau1, add it, just copy and paste what i put down there and except make the change where ext3/ntfs/fat32 is
[12:43] <Cunali> NemesisUK, okie :) Should take me about 15 min to dload the alternate cd, and I'll give that a shot
[12:43] <dell500> BlueEagle, through winblows
[12:43] <ahFeel`> hi :) is there a way to FORCE xorg's resolution ?
[12:43] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, ok hold on a sec
[12:43] <NemesisUK> Cunali, cool
[12:43] <BlueEagle> dell500: and it was just one partition on it you say?
[12:43] <Noia> is there a good link for a how-to on how to get mp3 support on Unbuntu ?
[12:44] <Elephant> t:  ls -t | sort might do it
[12:44] <BlueEagle> dell500: as far as windows was concerned?
[12:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3
[12:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:44] <pau1> done bruenig
[12:44] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell noia about mp3
[12:44] <Cunali> NemesisUK, would like to say, thank you very much for your help so far ^_^
[12:44] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, you said that you got an error with umount /dev/hdd1   ?
[12:44] <bruenig> ok save it
[12:44] <pau1> saved :)
[12:44] <bruenig> pau1, now go into the terminal and do sudo mkdir /media/hdb1
[12:45] <pau1> ok done
[12:45] <dell500> BlueEagle, ya, i just wanted to format it so i can use it on linux, xp, and macos
[12:45] <dell500> BlueEagle, so fat32 or something would be best
[12:45] <bruenig> pau1, now where would you want the folder to be that has all of the files?
[12:45] <bruenig> once it is mounted of course
[12:45] <BlueEagle> dell500: Yes, I would recomend fat32 for that.
[12:45] <Jack_Sparrow> dell500: yes fat32
[12:45] <tyler_d> funnyhat: yes... said it was mounted multiple times
[12:45] <pau1> my home folder or desktop if poss
[12:45] <BlueEagle> dell500: But that doesn't really explain why there are four partitions on it all of a sudden.
[12:46] <dell500> BlueEagle, ya i know
[12:46] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, ok, reboot your computer, it's the quickest way I can think to fix that problem.  Then go umount /dev/hdd1     then we'll do the sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdd1 /media/windows
[12:46] <bruenig> ok for desktop do this in terminal ln -s ~/Desktop/hdb1
[12:46] <dell500> BlueEagle, i just did sudo fdisk /dev/sdc, then did made a new partition, primary 1, block starts at 1 - 36481 or whatever, now i'm writing it
[12:46] <BlueEagle> dell500: now I assume that what you pasted to pastebin was edited and not the entire output from fdisk -l
[12:47] <tyler_d> funnyhat: ok gimme 2 secs
[12:47] <Locke> ok i changed my fstab and stuff
[12:47] <Locke> im crossing my fingers
[12:47] <dell500> BlueEagle, true
[12:47] <pau1> it says permission denied
[12:47] <BlueEagle> dell500: :)
[12:47] <bruenig> pau1, put sudo in front of it
[12:47] <Blinker> Locke - did you catch what I said about the duron earlier?
[12:47] <[Jessica1> Fuck. the person who was helping me left.
[12:47] <pau1> ok done
[12:47] <robmoore518> Have a dapper install issue. Asked it earlier but no one could help me. When I boot to the cd, I get the splash screen and choose "Start or install UbuntU." It loads right up to starting the X interface, then goes black. I get an arrow that I can move around with my mouse, but nothing else. How do I get past this?
[12:47] <dell500> BlueEagle, but it still says the disk has 4 part.
[12:48] <BlueEagle> dell500: even after writing the partition table?
[12:48] <bruenig> ok, now restart your computer, the fstab file will mount it during the reboot and then that shortcut on the Desktop will allow you to browse the disk
[12:48] <ardchoille> !language > [Jessica1
[12:48] <pau1> thanks bruenig, wish me luck!
[12:48] <BlueEagle> pau1: break a dependency
[12:48] <bruenig> if it doesn't work I will still be here
[12:49] <bruenig> should though
[12:49] <bit_doidao> robmoore518, try the alternate install method, it goes thru the the install in text mode
[12:49] <dell500> BlueEagle, ya, but i just deleted all the parts (1-4) so it should be kool, i just made a new partition of linux system, how do i define it as fat32?
[12:49] <bruenig> pau1, you still there?
[12:49] <bruenig> damn
[12:49] <bit_doidao> robmoore518, maybe your computer doesnt have memoey enought  to run the live cd
[12:49] <bruenig> !language > bruenig
[12:50] <BlueEagle> robmoore518: Did you try different vga mode?
[12:50] <y0shi> say, what is a good replacement for a winamp fan like me?
[12:50] <robmoore518> I have a gig of ram
[12:50] <FunnyHat> bruenig, ; )
[12:50] <TheGame> can some1 tell me how to remove drives from my desktop
[12:50] <FunnyHat> y0shi, xmms
[12:50] <TheGame> permanently
[12:50] <y0shi> ok:)
[12:50] <Doodluv> y0shi: xmms very similar to the olderversionso winamp
[12:50] <Blinker> y0shi - xmms
[12:50] <FunnyHat> y0shi, it's like, exactly the same and I LOVe it
[12:50] <finalbeta_> Ok, this wil sound a bit stupid, but sinse yesterday my laptop is cut of from google. I didn't install anything yesterday. My desktop loads google fine. Even pages that have google adds don't load anymore
[12:50] <y0shi> sounds good
[12:50] <bit_doidao> robmoore518, isnt memory ;)
[12:50] <bruenig> well either way he will come back when it doesn't work, I put the symbolic link for the wrong directory
[12:50] <finalbeta_> using firefox atm
[12:50] <robmoore518> is the alternate install method available with this CD or do I need to download another iso?
[12:50] <Locke> YAY
[12:50] <finalbeta_> how can I debug this?
[12:50] <tyler_d> funnyhat: what was that command to mount again?
[12:50] <FunnyHat> robmoore518, you will have to download the alternate install cd
[12:51] <TheGame> how the hell
[12:51] <TheGame> nobody ?!
[12:51] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdd1 /media/windows
[12:51] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, but
[12:51] <dell500> BlueEagle, any idea?
[12:51] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, do this first:   umount /dev/hdd1
[12:51] <bit_doidao> robmoore518, actually you'll have to download it
[12:51] <robmoore518> I'll try more vga modes, then dl the other iso. thanks.
[12:51] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, sudo umount /dev/hdd1 i meant
[12:51] <BlueEagle> dell500: tjaa.. try disconnecting and reconnecting it perhaps
[12:51] <BlueEagle> dell500: not sure why it should make any difference but it's the best idea I've got.
[12:52] <tyler_d> FunnyHat: k its not found
[12:52] <dell500> BlueEagle, k, well i need to change the system from Linux to fat32 though
[12:52] <TheGame> so nobody knows the answer to my question?
[12:52] <BlueEagle> dell500: also do a sudo fdisk -l with it disconnected.
[12:52] <bruenig> TheGame, what is it?
[12:52] <FunnyHat> tyler_d, please join channel #funnyhat so i can have you paste exactly what you are typing and what it is saying
[12:52] <BlueEagle> dell500: You can do that in fdisk
[12:52] <finalbeta_> What could be on my ubuntu desktop that cuts me of from google? I can ping it, can't load http pages
[12:52] <dell500> BlueEagle, i know, but what's the option to change it in fdisk
[12:52] <bit_doidao> robmoore518, i had one issue one time, related with lvm and evms. it "hooks" on the boot for 20 minutes. after installing, i desabled the services and everything was ok
[12:53] <bruenig> finalbeta_, you can load other pages I assume?
[12:53] <TheGame> bruenig, im looking for the option where i can stop drives being shown on my desktop
[12:53] <finalbeta_> bruenig, if they don't have google adds they load fine.
[12:53] <TheGame> i 4got which system app its in
[12:53] <Phaqui> does ubuntu ship with php?
[12:53] <BlueEagle> dell500: t -> partition number -> c
[12:53] <Jack_Sparrow> finalbeta try this   216.239.57.99 instead of google
[12:53] <bruenig> finalbeta_, sorry don't know
[12:53] <BlueEagle> dell500: c should be Fat23 LBA
[12:53] <dell500> not just W95 FAT32?
[12:54] <bit_doidao> robmoore518, when booting, try to access others ttys (alt+shift+F1) and look for information.
[12:54] <dell500> so it should be LBA, BlueEagle
[12:54] <robmoore518> bit_doidoa: so let it sit for 20min or so and it will keep going?
[12:54] <y0shi> lol XMMS does seem alot like winamp.
[12:54] <bruenig> TheGame, I assume those drives on the desktop are symbolic links, you should be able to just click on them and hit delete
[12:54] <Sanne> Phaqui: php is in the repositories. I don't think it's on the CD:
[12:54] <BlueEagle> dell500: For big drives it should be LBA (Large Block Addressing)
[12:54] <TheGame> but then next time i reboot theyll be there
[12:54] <Phaqui> yea, I noticed
[12:54] <Doodluv> TheGame: isnt there a config somewhere where you check boxes for the types of objects you want on the desktop
[12:54] <ych> hiya
[12:54] <Phaqui> I tried  sudo apt-get install php5
[12:54] <dell500> BlueEagle, gotcha :) thanks a lot
[12:54] <ych> guys, i have a driver/harddrive question... i have an older machine running a socket A asrock board, which requires drivers for the sATA drives to be seen, or at least in windows it does. i want to convert it to linux, and i put in the liveCD to try it out, and if i click on Places --> Computer, the sATA hard drive (which is currently NTFS) shows up allright, allthough i havent tried mounting it yet. if it shows up in there now does that mean I'll be 
[12:54] <Phaqui> I bet that is it :)
[12:54] <TheGame> ya there is but i cant find it
[12:54] <dell500> BlueEagle, hopefully it works
[12:54] <ych> sorry, long paragraph
[12:54] <Doodluv> aaaah
[12:54] <Jack_Sparrow> TheGame: To Remove Icons from Desktop after running Diskmounter Use Terminal and type gconf-editor browse to /apps/nautilus/desktop and uncheck volumes_visable
[12:54] <dell500> BlueEagle, i'm gonna go eat some pizza, bbl
[12:54] <bruenig> TheGame, do sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[12:54] <BlueEagle> dell500: ofcourse you'll need to format it too.
[12:54] <ych> (though its only 3 lines here)
[12:55] <Doodluv> im not in front of my ubuntu box right now...
[12:55] <BlueEagle> dell500: save a slice for me, will you? :p
[12:55] <TheGame> thanks Jack_Sparrow thats the command i was looking for
[12:55] <Sanne> Phaqui: wait a sec, I'll find you something
[12:55] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[12:55] <bit_doidao> robmoore518, in my particular case, with a computer in brazil. i dont know why ubuntu installs lvm and evms by default. but every time, including in the install, the boot stopped on those items.
[12:55] <trygg_> Why cant ADOM be apt-get'd in ubuntu but in debian and elive?
[12:55] <Sanne> Phaqui: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=php&titlesearch=Titles
[12:56] <bruenig> what is ADOM? oh and the other answer is different repositories = different packages
[12:56] <bit_doidao> robmoore518, i personaly dont like the install via live cd. its very slow, because the computer needs to load all the stuff from the cd. alternate install is the one ;)
[12:56] <sun_> how do you search the package list for a particular file?
[12:56] <dell500> BlueEagle, says /dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table...
[12:56] <Blinker> ych, if it shows up then I don't see why you wouldn't be able to mount it. ubuntu/linux supports sata drives just fine
[12:56] <kjm> sun_ : apt-cache search <foo>
[12:57] <viksa> somebofy to tell me how to configure my tv tuner please
[12:57] <bruenig> pau1, my fault, on that last command, made a slight error, can be fixed though
[12:57] <kjm> sun_ : apt-policy <foo>
[12:57] <ych> ok, i mean its not so much sATA itself, but the sATA controller, which you need a driver for win to see, whereas newer sata controllers show up on win
[12:57] <BlueEagle> dell500: Aren't you eating pizza already?
[12:57] <pau1> bruenig it works, i can see the files but not modify them
[12:57] <dell500> BlueEagle, it's next door, might be gone lol, how do you format it? :)
[12:57] <trygg_> bruenig: a roguelike game. Oh.
[12:57] <BlueEagle> dell500: Well since it is an usb drive that might be troo.
[12:57] <Blinker> ych - just as well
[12:57] <ych> but if it can see it now, it's not likely to disappear is it?
[12:57] <bruenig> pau1, open up a terminal, do cd Desktop, then do ln -s /media/hdb1
[12:57] <BlueEagle> troo?
[12:57] <ych> good
[12:57] <kjm> sun_ : last one is wrong....
[12:57] <dell500> no idea lol
[12:57] <BlueEagle> wth does troo mean? :p
[12:57] <BonKk> alguien en espaol?
[12:57] <Blinker> ych - no...this isn't kansas anymore...
[12:58] <ych> aight
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !sata
[12:58] <Blinker> =p
[12:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:58] <bruenig> pau1, unless of course it did happen to show the mounted disk did it?
[12:58] <ych> just makin sure, woulda been a PITA otherwise
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[12:58] <ych> k, time to get backing up my data for the switch
[12:58] <dell500> BlueEagle, ya, i need to format it, how can that be done? :)
[12:58] <BlueEagle> dell500: It might be that you need to format /dev/sdc and not really make partitions on it since it's an usb drive. Not sure about that tho.
[12:58] <bruenig> !SATA
[12:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SATA - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:58] <Blinker> ych - smart man
[12:58] <bluefox83> how do i get ubuntu to always mount /dev/hdb2 /d3 ?
[12:58] <pau1> bruenig cd desktop does not work
[12:58] <bluefox83> i need it to do that on startup
[12:58] <dell500> anyone know how to format an USB SATA drive? :)
[12:59] <bruenig> pau1, capitlize Desktop
[12:59] <kjm> paul : cd ~/Desktop
[12:59] <pau1> it shows the mounted disk
[12:59] <dell500> here, i'll leave myself a note and come back, bbl
[12:59] <BlueEagle> dell500: mkfs.vfat
[12:59] <dell500> aw yes!
[12:59] <pau1> but the files are read only
[12:59] <kjm> paul : Is the drive formatted NTFS?
[12:59] <BlueEagle> dell500: or rather mkdosfs
[12:59] <dell500> BlueEagle, any idea what flags to use?
[12:59] <pau1> no ext3
[12:59] <bruenig> pau1, do this sudo chown username -R /media/hdb1, replace username
[12:59] <dell500> or options i mean
[12:59] <Kyle122139> could someone tell me how to make an ubuntu livecd?
[01:00] <kjm> paul : what he said
[01:00] <bruenig> !iso
[01:00] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[01:00] <BlueEagle> dell500: mkdosfs -n myusbdrive /dev/sdc
[01:00] <kjm> Kyle22139 : Goto www.ubuntu.org and download ?
[01:00] <BlueEagle> dell500: if that doesn't work try /dev/sdc1
[01:00] <BonKk> I've a problem with compiz, it works but the fast keys doesn't
[01:00] <dell500> what's the n option, name?
[01:00] <pau1> ok done brueing
[01:00] <TheGame> BonKk,
[01:00] <bruenig> pau1, should be a link on the desktop and all the files should be good
[01:00] <ardchoille> !celtx
[01:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about celtx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:00] <TheGame> join #ubuntu-xgl and ill help you there
[01:00] <BlueEagle> dell500: volume-name
[01:01] <ych> hmmm i wish there were 25GB dvds ;(
[01:01] <dell500> BlueEagle, says 'mkdosfs: Will not try to make filesystem on full-disk device '/dev/sdc' (use -I if wanted)'
[01:01] <TheGame> theyre called hd-dvds ych
[01:01] <ych> lol but they dont fit in my burner
[01:01] <dell500> BlueEagle, last time I did this it kept freezing
[01:01] <bruenig> pau1, did it work?
[01:01] <dell500> BlueEagle, but it just did it in a jiffy just now wierd
[01:01] <TheGame> BonKk, go to #ubuntu-xgl
[01:01] <BlueEagle> dell500: man mkdosfs
[01:01] <BonKk> thanks
[01:02] <pau1> bruenig, you are a hero, it works !!! thank you so much
[01:02] <bluefox83> how do i set ubuntu to mount a standard ide drive on startup?
[01:02] <BlueEagle> dell500: -I is to force it to make the filesystem on the entire disk. ie. superfloppy format.
[01:02] <bruenig> ok good, felt a little bad about that mistaken symbolic link there at the beginning but the ends are good so that is what matters I suppose, off to do my homework
[01:02] <BonKk> join #ubuntu-xgl
[01:02] <BlueEagle> dell500: not sure if that's "the right way" but it being a usb disk I think it is.
[01:02] <trygg_> I cant even find opera in the packagelist?
[01:02] <PovRayMan> hey all, i'm was enjoying the remote desktop in gnome or whatever but now i'm using window maker and i don't have the remote desktop enabled anymore.  What is it that I gotta run via command line to startup the remote desktop server in ubuntu without running gnome?
[01:02] <dell500> BlueEagle, wouldn't a 300gb take a while to format?
[01:02] <BlueEagle> dell500: on the other hand I would try /dev/sd1 first
[01:03] <BlueEagle> dell500: You will probably be able to finish your pizza. :)
[01:03] <dell500> BlueEagle, sdc1 doesn't work
[01:03] <dell500> lol
[01:03] <dell500> BlueEagle, i'll bb soon, it's running mkdosfs right now
[01:03] <TheGame> dell500,  u could do a quick format
[01:03] <BlueEagle> kk
[01:03] <BlueEagle> gl
[01:03] <Meez> hey, i found an old sb live card, installed it today... yet... i still cant use two audio apps at once properly, or hear 2 people @ once on vent, or similar... i know it has hardware mixing... am i missing something?
[01:04] <BlueEagle> thegame: I wouldn't recomend it for vfat on a usb disk that shows four phantom partitions. :)
[01:04] <TheGame> oh
[01:04] <BlueEagle> meez: running pure alsa or alsa-oss
[01:04] <BlueEagle> ?
[01:05] <PovRayMan> How is everyone doing? :)
[01:05] <Meez> BlueEagle, how to check?
[01:05] <Meez> alsa-oss is installed, should i try removing that & reboot?
[01:06] <Gun_Smoke> Can I connect to a windows machine remotely?
[01:06] <freebse> meez: maybe this will help: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Sound
[01:06] <BlueEagle> meez: doesn't alsamixer list the driver it's using?
[01:06] <PovRayMan> I too would like a quick pointer for remote desktop
[01:07] <Meez> it tells me card and trip
[01:07] <Meez> *chip, reading that link freebse
[01:07] <devhen> Gun_Smoke: yes. you can install an ssh server with cygwin or you can setup windows desktop connection on XP and use terminal server client on linux to connect
[01:07] <PovRayMan> haha
[01:07] <rafael_> hi everyone!!
[01:07] <Meez> BlueEagle, should i be using alsa-oss or pure alsa?
[01:07] <PovRayMan> I just wanna know how to start up the remote desktop server when not using gnome
[01:07] <Gun_Smoke> devhen:  I don't have a copy of windows..
[01:07] <rafael_> is there a mirror for the freecontrib?
[01:08] <devhen> Gun_Smoke: so what windows machine are you trying to connect to?! o.O
[01:08] <anabain_> how can I know which version of the forcedeth driver module have I installed?
[01:08] <Gun_Smoke> devhen:  Roommates laptop
[01:08] <FunnyHat> !ntfs
[01:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:08] <BlueEagle> povrayman: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu%20remote%20desktop
[01:09] <devhen> Gun_Smoke: do want to connect to it graphically, ina point and click environment, or would SSH do?
[01:09] <rafael_> im trying to download the packages with easyubuntu and apt get
[01:09] <BlueEagle> meez: now that you ask I'm not sure. Did you check the link freebse gave you?
[01:09] <rafael_> but the site is dont answer
[01:09] <Gun_Smoke> devhen:  Point and click
[01:09] <Meez> reading it now
[01:09] <freebse> meez: alsa
[01:09] <cephalopod> Hi, what's the package name that provides support for MP3 playback?
[01:10] <PovRayMan> BlueEagle: What I want to know is how to run it not in gnome, that info is for gnome
[01:10] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell cephalopod about mp3
[01:10] <ljlolel> so, my computer sees my usb hard drive (even the partitions and each size), but it doesn't mount it.  When I try to mount the drives, i get the error: could not execute pmount, why is this?  , btw, this usbhd works on two other computers, windows and linux
[01:10] <BlueEagle> povrayman: how do you want to run it then, if not in gnome?
[01:10] <bluefox83> is there nothing in ubuntu to configure sound? i need to run something to configure alsa >.>
[01:11] <devhen> Gun_Smoke: is this laptop running XP?
[01:11] <cephalopod> bluefox83: Have you tried alsamixergui?
[01:11] <PovRayMan> BlueEagle: I use windowmaker instead of gnome and I'd just like to have the server running so i can login to the linux box at anytime
[01:11] <bluefox83> cephalopod, yes...it doesn't seem to know what driver to use for my soundcard (sound blaster live)
[01:11] <BlueEagle> povrayman: Have you concidered running a secure shell server and enable X11 forwarding?
[01:11] <rafael_> the packages in the freecontrib dont asnwer! Somebody knows any mirrors??
[01:11] <foomanchew> bluefox83, what soundcard ?
[01:11] <foomanchew> bluefox83, exactly I had the exact same problem
[01:11] <bluefox83> foomanchew, already said it..sound blaster live
[01:12] <foomanchew> bluefox83, i missed that
[01:12] <BlueEagle> povrayman: That's what I do with my server and then I run cygwin's X11 server on my windows box if I need to do something while logged in there.
[01:12] <PovRayMan> That sounds a bit complex, should I just look for something else? I was googling before coming here and I saw something like NX something, I think that's a server app for vnc too
[01:12] <rafael_> i dont get the packages in the easyubutu!
[01:12] <Gun_Smoke> devhen:  Yes
[01:12] <TooTallJones> can someone help me with ubuntu, my cdroms won't mount it tells me there are too many symbolic links
[01:13] <TooTallJones> i'm not finding any answers going through forums
[01:13] <foomanchew> bluefox83, mine is fixed using SB live
[01:13] <devhen> Gun_Smoke: enable Windows Desktop Connection (http://www.windowsnetworking.com/j_helmig/wxprmdtp.htm)
[01:13] <BlueEagle> povrayman: and I find it simpler than running VNC as I never am physically working on my server. ( it's in a closet)
[01:13] <bluefox83> foomanchew, how'd you setup alsa to use it though?
[01:13] <devhen> Gun_Smoke: then use terminal server client to connect to it by pointing it to the IP of the laptop (sudo apt-get install tsclient)
[01:13] <TooTallJones> anyone with some knowledge I can PM about this?
[01:14] <ljlolel> so, my computer sees my usb hard drive (even the partitions and each size), but it doesn't mount it.  When I try to mount the drives, i get the error: could not execute pmount, why is this?  , btw, this usbhd works on two other computers, windows and linux
[01:14] <Gun_Smoke> devhen:  thanks
[01:14] <devhen> np
[01:14] <BlueEagle> tootalljones: Have you tried mounting them from the terminal?
[01:14] <mcphail> PovRayMan: freenx will do what you need
[01:14] <ljlolel> how do you mount from the terminal?
[01:14] <TooTallJones> Yes I get the same error
[01:14] <TooTallJones> too many symbolic links
[01:15] <TooTallJones> i'm new to all of this though, so perhaps I did the commands wrong
[01:15] <BlueEagle> ljlolel: sudo mount /dev/DEVICENAME /PATH/TO/MOUNTPOINT usually does the trick
[01:15] <TooTallJones> but I think I have one file linking to the same file? not sure
[01:15] <ljlolel> BlueEagle, why does the nautilus gui try to mount with pmount instead of mount?
[01:15] <TooTallJones> that was the best explaination I could come up with, but I have no clue how I would resolve that
[01:15] <BlueEagle> ljlolel: I really do not know.
[01:16] <rafael_> exit
[01:17] <foomanchew> anyone got a easy link to setting up XGL on dapper
[01:17] <misaki> I compiled WINE using step-by-step instructions, now I need to uninstall it but I can't figure out how
[01:17] <foomanchew> any scripts out there ?
[01:17] <foomanchew> for XGL/compiz on ATI ?
[01:17] <sethk> misaki, why do you need to uninstall it?
[01:17] <bluefox83> !nvidia
[01:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:18] <TooTallJones> is there a way I can revert back to default symbolic links for my cdroms?
[01:18] <NemesisUK> foomanchew, check out #xgl and their guides
[01:18] <TooTallJones> they worked before, but after I installed cedega I ran into this problem
[01:18] <NemesisUK> foomanchew, worked for me :)
[01:18] <argument> how can i get ubuntu through bittorrent?
[01:18] <riaal> I got some stupid warning from Azureus that wont dissaper! Something like "Azureus did not shutdown tidily, bla bla." all i can "push" is "hide" and it don't dissaper. PLEASE help me =(
[01:18] <foomanchew> NemesisUK, sharp thanks dude
[01:19] <misaki> sethk, I'm trying to follow another set of instructions for how to get WoW working, and the first thing it tells me to do is uninstall previous versions of WINE. But since I didn't install it from the package manager when I type in the command it tells me to, it says no package found.
[01:19] <mcphail> riaal: exit azureus cleanly and restart
[01:19] <NemesisUK> foomanchew, :)
[01:19] <riaal> mcphail: well i did, but the message is still there and if i kill it it will come back
[01:20] <riaal> mcphail: is there like a "soft kill" or somthing?
[01:20] <mcphail> riaal: you probably didn't quit azureus completely. You need to select "exit" from the "file" dialog
[01:20] <Gun_Smoke> devhen:  Is there any information on using it?
[01:21] <riaal> mcphail: oh, thats so lame! thanks for the help :P
[01:21] <trygg> The packagelist for ubuntu is pretty kde-heavy right? I mean i find kmplayer but i cant find mplayer? :c
[01:22] <jordanau> what is the best wireless sniffer?
[01:22] <goochy> I'm new to linux - when trying to extract an archive into /usr/bin it tells me I don't have permission do to that
[01:22] <freebse> trygg: mplayer is not in the list you need to compile it to get gmplayer... or maybe there is a package somewhere else
[01:22] <riaal> Is it possible to use the "TV out" on the graphic card under ubuntu?
[01:22] <Kill_X> trygg, well... I don't think so :o
[01:22] <jordanau> goochy, you need to use the sudo command
[01:23] <Kill_X> jordanau, uhm... try netstumbler
[01:23] <freebse> riaal: which card
[01:23] <denstark> I have a quick question. I just installed a server (proftpd) and just need to figure out how to start the damn thing. if I try to do it from the command line, it tells me its managed by inetd. I'm clueless haha.
[01:23] <trygg> Seems wierd that not mplayer or opera is there
[01:23] <trygg> not gproftpd either
[01:23] <TooTallJones> will anyone try to help me troubleshoot this mounting problem in PM?
[01:23] <Kill_X> mplayer is definitely there.
[01:23] <trygg> Maybe i have a wierd sources.list
[01:23] <freebse> trygg: Opera is, you can get it from another source
[01:24] <TooTallJones> it's not finding /dev/hdc and it's also telling me there are too many symbolic links
[01:24] <Kill_X> opera is within the canonical commercial repository
[01:24] <freebse> Kill_X: it ism but whitout the skins from gmplayer
[01:24] <devhen> Gun_Smoke: on using what? tsclient?
[01:24] <CyDrive> does anyone know of a proxy tester?
[01:24] <Gun_Smoke> devhen: yes
[01:24] <Kill_X> freebse, yeah, that's right O:-)
[01:25] <TooTallJones> pretty please?
[01:25] <devhen> Gun_Smoke: its extremely easy. in computer: put the IP of the laptop, for protocol use RDP,
[01:25] <Blinker> CyDrive - what kind of tests?
[01:25] <Gun_Smoke> devhen:  And on his end?
[01:25] <riaal> freebse:  NV36.2 [GeForce FX 5700] 
[01:25] <CyDrive> i need a proxy tester just to see if the proxy is still working and if possible tell me if its anonymous
[01:26] <devhen> Gun_Smoke: did you see the link I posted about seting up windows desktop connectioN?
[01:26] <freebse> Kill_X: so there is no ither way than compile :) I did it as well, or you use vlc which is much better anyways
[01:26] <trygg> Kill_X: how come i cant find mplayer? :/
[01:26] <Gun_Smoke> devhen:  No
[01:26] <riaal> why can't i see others avatars im aMSN 0.95? =S
[01:26] <brk3> hi, my pc has 2 hardrives I want to use the first one for linux/windows and the second for storage.. would resierFS on the storage drive work with both..?
[01:26] <jordanau> anyone know of a good wireless sniffer for linux?
[01:26] <devhen> Gun_Smoke: (http://www.windowsnetworking.com/j_helmig/wxprmdtp.htm)
[01:26] <Kill_X> trygg, what is your sources.list ?
[01:27] <Kill_X> TooTallJones, PM me, but please start all over again :o
[01:27] <freebse> brk3: you van not really access Reiser from WinDOS
[01:27] <foomanchew> anyone know what happend to ALSACONFIG ?
[01:27] <brk3> freebse: is there anything else that would work?
[01:27] <NemesisUK> brk3, fat32 you can read/write from linux and windows
[01:27] <riaal> anyone have any ide why i can't se avatars in my aMSN?
[01:27] <Gun_Smoke> devhen:  thanks
[01:27] <brk3> NemesisUK: is there not disadvantages to fat32?
[01:28] <looktj> hi
[01:28] <searayman> any good eye candy for us non nvidia/ati users?
[01:28] <looktj> i need help
[01:28] <looktj> !wireless
[01:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:28] <NemesisUK> brk3, you could use ext3 and use the ext2ifs driver in windows
[01:28] <freebse> brk3: FAT32m ext2, ext3 wgut drivers for WinDOS (like ext-explorer) FAT32 is the vest choice it can be read by both
[01:28] <CyDrive> anyone know of a proxy tester to see if the proxy work?
[01:29] <looktj> help! my laptop wont connect to internet
[01:29] <searayman> any good irc things for linux?
[01:29] <FunnyLookinHat> !restricted
[01:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:29] <searayman> looktj:  are u using wirless?
[01:29] <looktj> yea
[01:29] <searayman> looktj:  do u have a wep key?
[01:30] <CyDrive> lookj: what kinda networking card are you using?
[01:30] <looktj> i have wireless card, my wireless router does not have
[01:30] <looktj> hmm In
[01:30] <looktj> Intell 200 something
[01:31] <looktj> sorry for bad spelling
[01:31] <noel> hi, is there anyone here who could help me out a bit with a printer?
[01:31] <searayman> looktj:  is there a password to get on to our network?
[01:31] <riaal> i can't play sound in any program but vlc? somthing about blocking the soundcard? (no vlc running in ps)
[01:31] <looktj> nope no wep or anything
[01:31] <searayman> ok
[01:31] <looktj> i installed it recently
[01:32] <looktj> default thingy is "lo"
[01:32] <searayman> looktj:  in the top right of the screen is there a computer mopnitor with a red circle with a white line throu it?
[01:32] <riaal> how do i change working space if the icons are blocked? (by a STUPID azureus warning)
[01:32] <searayman> anyone know of any good eye candy for us no nvidia/ati users?
[01:33] <looktj> let me go boot my laptop up
[01:34] <trygg> Kill_X: pastebin is having some problems.
[01:34] <NemesisUK> Seantater, xgl
[01:34] <Kill_X> well, just one second
[01:34] <searayman> looktj:  ok, and when u type to me so i dotn miss your typing please start with my username with a : after it, you can do that by startign to type the first letters then hit tab and it will finish my name
[01:34] <noel> hi, is there anyone here who could help me out a bit with a printer?
[01:35] <Kill_X> trygg,  http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste <-- use that one.
[01:35] <riaal> is there any softer kill than just "kill"?
[01:35] <sethk> riaal, kiill with no arguments is soft
[01:35] <sethk> riaal, there are arguments to make it harder
[01:35] <sethk> riaal, kill, by itself, instructs the application to do a clean normal shutdown
[01:35] <searayman> any good eye candy for us non nvidia/ati card users?
[01:36] <Kill_X> trygg, first text input field means display name
[01:36] <trygg> Kill_X: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/2843/
[01:36] <Kill_X> ah okay
[01:36] <riaal> sethk: i keep getting this warnings frome my torrent client Azureus, and the "hide" button don't work. any inde? thanks for the kill help  btw
[01:37] <sethk> riaal, warnings about kill, you mean?
[01:37] <y0ss1_77> can someone tell me how to use wine
[01:37] <riaal> sethk:  yes, and I can't get them to go away whit out rekilling the program
[01:38] <riaal> sethk:  there is a "hide" button on the warning but it doesnt work =((
[01:38] <Kill_X> trygg, what package-manager did you use for searching?
[01:38] <sethk> riaal, you'll just have to ignore the warnings.  If the app is properly coded then kill is safe.  (plain kill, not kill -9 or others).
[01:38] <sethk> riaal, if the app isn't coded correctly, well, then you are pretty much SOL
[01:39] <riaal> sethk:  the problem is I have a warning all over my screan that i can't get ridd of whit out killing (exeting) the program, then it comes again.........
[01:39] <y0ss1_77> anyone
[01:39] <y0ss1_77> can you tell me how to run wine
[01:40] <searayman> any good eye candy for non nvidia/ati users?
[01:40] <jrib> y0ss1_77: wine /path/to/exe
[01:40] <y0ss1_77> k
[01:40] <jrib> !wine > y0ss1_77
[01:40] <searayman> y0ss1_77: do u have wine installed?
[01:40] <y0ss1_77> yes
[01:40] <CyDrive> how do i use a proxy in ubuntu?
[01:40] <foomanchew> anyone got DOD running via Wine ?
[01:40] <CyDrive> !proxy
[01:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proxy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:41] <y0ss1_77> jrib: do i need to mkdir c:\windows for it to work
[01:41] <feet> hello. my programs complain they dont have neccesary permissions for /dev/null/ no matter how many times i chmod /dev/null, bash reports Permission Denied. how can i fix that? cheers!
[01:41] <searayman> y0ss1_77:  ok then when u have a .exe downloaded you go into termianl and cd to the directory, then type sudo wine [filename] .exe
[01:41] <CyDrive> use sudo in the front
[01:41] <noel> hi, is there anyone here who could help me out a bit with a printer?
[01:41] <CyDrive>  y0ss1_77: use sudo it makes the program act like its root
[01:41] <PovRayMan> hmm ok i give up trying to figure out freenx
[01:41] <jrib> y0ss1_77: nope, you don't need to create that yourself, wine creates ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/
[01:41] <y0ss1_77> kk
[01:41] <trygg> Kill_X: apt-cache
[01:42] <PovRayMan> anytime i try to run vncserver it launches a new gnome session, i just want it to work with windowmaker and not make a new session
[01:42] <CyDrive> i meant feet sorry
[01:42] <feet> i know that
[01:42] <Kill_X> trygg: well I understand.
[01:42] <feet> but that wont always work
[01:42] <Kill_X> trygg, what platform are you on?
[01:42] <meez^> freebse, that guide didnt really help :(
[01:42] <searayman> anyoen know any good eye candy for ubuntu???????
[01:42] <bobbyd_> hi
[01:42] <feet> in fact, sudo and logging in as root dont make any difference
[01:43] <mcphail> riaal: did you exit azureus cleanly as i suggested?
[01:43] <meez^> still cant hear 2 people on vent, or hear GAIM events while on vent
[01:43] <jrib> !themes > searayman
[01:43] <bobbyd_> what's the best way to duplicate a hard drive to another identicle drive? can I use dd somehow on the block device?
[01:43] <trygg> Kill_X: p3, dont really know what that is. i386?
[01:43] <CyDrive> How do i setup a proxy in ubuntu?
[01:43] <searayman> jrib: no not themes thats boring eye candy, i want fun stuff, but be able to use it not having a nvidia card
 maybe your card is too old, what card do you have
[01:43] <meez^> sb live
[01:43] <noel> hi, is there anyone here who could help me out a bit with a printer?
[01:44] <Kill_X> trygg, try to search for mplayer-686
[01:44] <jrib> CyDrive: system > preferences > network proxy  (I don't know too much detail)
[01:44] <lumgwada> hi can anyone suggest a way to increase, the sensitivity of  metacity windows 'snapping' or rubbing against corners with mouse drags?
[01:44] <meez^> its of the emu10k chipset, and i _know_ it has hardware mixing :)
[01:44] <meez^> i think ill try a last hard reboot to see if its fixed
[01:44] <meez^> brb
[01:44] <jrib> searayman: xcompmgr is nice to play with, it still causes some system instability though in my experience
[01:44] <trygg> Kill_X: nothing
[01:45] <jrib> searayman: not sure if that works without nvidia cards or not though
[01:45] <trygg> kmplayer i find though
[01:45] <searayman> jrib:  yea i know i had an episode with that today lol, anythign else? i seemed to keep losing my gnome nbar withthat
[01:46] <riaal> mcphail: I did, but now some stupid warning messege about IF I have a router bla bla bla and i can't get ridd of it
[01:46] <Doodluv> !xgl
[01:46] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:46] <jrib> searayman: 3ddesktop?  I guess xgl didn't work for you?
[01:46] <misaki> i'm trying to uninstall an application that i compiled, is there an easy way to do that?
[01:46] <jrib> misaki: how did you install it?
[01:46] <FunnyLookinHat> !paste
[01:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:47] <searayman> jrib: yea xgl ddosent work cause i have a s3 unichrome, i havent tried xgl i just hear my card dosent support it
[01:47] <riaal> anyone know's if it is possible to just turn off the warnings in Azureus?
[01:47] <jrib> searayman: yeah, I'm in the same boat and I have an nvidia (crappy laptop card)
[01:47] <trygg> Kill_X: should i just give up? :p
[01:47] <riaal> im just going to try the old windows fix, reboot :P
[01:47] <riaal> brb
[01:47] <nzk> Has anyone here seen "Ghost Ship"?
[01:47] <nzk> Has anyone here seen "Ghost Ship"?
[01:47] <jrib> misaki: did you type 'make install' when you installed it?
[01:47] <nzk> Has anyone here seen "Ghost Ship"?
[01:47] <jrib> !repeat
[01:47] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:48] <searayman> jrib:  yea i am soooo mad!!!!! i want xgl so badly
[01:48] <Phenax> searayman: It's an overrated fad imo :/
[01:48] <_NUKE_> hey guys sory for disturbing but i am a noob in distress. I have heard of a "pack" (is that what you call it?) that instals all of the codecs that you will need like divx and mp3 and other stuff like java and flash. it does this all in one go. I have tried searching for it but cant find it. does anyone know what i am talking about?
[01:48] <nzk> Has anyone here seen "Ghost Ship"?
[01:48] <NemesisUK> Seantater, just goto #xgl and follow one of their many guides
[01:48] <NemesisUK> Seantater, sorry
[01:48] <misaki> i followed step-by-step instructions, i wasn't possible to install a package because one of the files needed to be patched (this was for WINE)
[01:48] <searayman> Phenax:  really? i think it looks fun
[01:48] <jrib> nzk: what is "Ghost Ship", a movie?
[01:48] <fblade> hey guys anyone help me in trying to get 3d stuff working on ubuntu it says the libsdl cannot be found
[01:49] <nzk> jrib: yes its a movie
[01:49] <Kill_X> trygg, hm... I am busy with helping TooTallJones atm... He's got a serious mount problem...
[01:49] <SonicChao> _NUKE_: try EasyUbuntu
[01:49] <searayman> Phenax: right now the only eye candy i got going is xdesktopwaves witch i think is a blast :-)
[01:49] <SonicChao> !easyubuntu > _NUKE_
[01:49] <misaki> NUKE: read this I think https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[01:49] <NemesisUK> searayman, at #xgl they have guides for getting xgl working
[01:49] <Phenax> searayman: Lol, that app is pretty funny
[01:49] <jrib> nzk: try to keep #ubuntu for support, but feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss movies
[01:49] <Phenax> searayman: It doesn't do all that much more than a compositor and 3ddesktop
[01:50] <Phenax> searayman: And for the resources those things punch out I don't think it's worth it
[01:50] <Kill_X> trygg, are you able to wait until tomorrow? :S
[01:50] <searayman> NemesisUK:  i cant use xgl i have an s3 unichrome gfc
[01:50] <trygg> Kill_X: i sure am ! :)
[01:50] <Herbal> im trying to help me friend install ubuntu. everything goes till it gets to installing grub where it fails and so does lilo. it says install to target it doesent name a partition...anyone know how to fix this?
[01:50] <NemesisUK> searayman, lol sorry
[01:50] <_NUKE_> thanks guys ill try those out...
[01:50] <searayman> Phenax:  see i had 3ddekstop but i dotn switch desktops that much
[01:51] <Phenax> searayman: Well, you'll need DRM and DRI enabled in your kernel if it's S3 Unichrome (I'm fairly sure), but I'm too lazy to explain
[01:51] <misaki> jrib: yes I did type `make install'
[01:51] <trygg> Kill_X: anywho, thanks!
[01:51] <y0ss1_77> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\Yazak.exe": Module not found
[01:51] <y0ss1_77> what should i do
[01:51] <searayman> Phenax:  what..do u mean i could get xgl workign on s3 unichrome?
[01:51] <Kill_X> trygg, great, I'd be happy to help you another time :)
[01:51] <jrib> misaki: you can try 'make uninstall' and see if the developer included it.  In the future, consider using checkinstall to install what you compile with a package
[01:51] <searayman> y0ss1_77:  u were the internet guy right?
[01:52] <jrib> !checkinstall > misaki
[01:52] <Phenax> searayman: Last time I checked DRM and DRI could handle it, I'm not positive though
[01:52] <y0ss1_77> dunno
[01:52] <y0ss1_77> lol
[01:52] <Phenax> searayman: Best thing to do is probably google 'xgl on s3 unichrome' or whatnot
[01:52] <misaki> ty jrib, i'll do that
[01:52] <searayman> Phenax:  i just get things that say its not supported
[01:52] <y0ss1_77> im tryin to get yazak installed now its installed but wont run
[01:52] <searayman> Phenax:  what is this drm and dri stuff
[01:53] <Phenax> searayman: Oh, then it may not be. AIGLX is in Xorg 7.1 by default and may work better for you (I think)
[01:53] <Phenax> Has similar features
[01:53] <Phenax> searayman: It's probably enabled if 3ddesktop works for you
[01:53] <Herbal> im trying to help me friend install ubuntu. everything goes till it gets to installing grub where it fails and so does lilo. it says install to target it doesent name a partition...anyone know how to fix this?
[01:54] <searayman> Phenax:  how do i get aiglx workign
[01:54] <Phenax> Herbal: it says "Install to target it doesn't name a partition" huh?
[01:54] <harisund> Can someone explain what is the difference between the various folders in my home directory? There is a .gconf, .gconfd, .gnome2. .gnome2_private, .metacity, .nautilus?Also, which file do I edit to remove update-manager instead of using the sessions properties?
[01:54] <Phenax> searayman: I have no idea. I don't use/ever have used Ubuntu. I'd wait until X.org 7.1 goes stable
[01:55] <Herbal> yea everything installs fine but the bootloader wont install
[01:55] <Phenax> I believe 6.8.2 or 6.9.0 is stable now, 7.0 is just 6.9.0 modularized
[01:55] <searayman> Phenax:  u know how long that will be?
[01:55] <Phenax> Herbal: Well an exact error would help
[01:55] <yossman> phenax, you've never used ubuntu ? ;)
[01:55] <yossman> wat'r you doin' here then ;p
[01:55] <searayman> Phenax:  i want them so i can use compiz! so i can get the compiz themes and compiz has like an expose feature liek mac osx
[01:55] <Phenax> yossman: Helping where I can? It's all Linux
[01:55] <yossman> phenax, kudos to you sir ;)
[01:56] <y0ss1_77> lol
[01:56] <yossman> woa, y0ss ;)
[01:56] <y0ss1_77> need help please:(
[01:56] <Phenax> searayman: Well, then unfortunately it sounds like comppiz doesn't support your intigrated video device and you'll have to wait for support or possibly grab a CVS and check for support. I still advise googling it.
[01:56] <fblade> when i try and run bzflag  i get this error if i run it through termnial any idea? X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[01:56] <fblade>   Major opcode of failed request:  135 (XFree86-VidModeExtension)
[01:56] <fblade>   Minor opcode of failed request:  10 (XF86VidModeSwitchToMode)
[01:56] <fblade>   Value in failed request:  0x3e
[01:56] <fblade>   Serial number of failed request:  122
[01:56] <fblade>   Current serial number in output stream:  124
[01:56] <jrib> !paste > fblade
[01:56] <yossman> y0ss try just asking the q
[01:57] <Phenax> fblade: It sounds like it's trying to set a resolution, maybe 'pre-make' a configuration file to set it to a resolution that you know?
[01:57] <y0ss1_77> im tryin to run yazak with wine but it aint workin
[01:57] <y0ss1_77> how do i get it to work
[01:57] <Phenax> fblade: As in, it sounds like it's trying to start up at a resolution not supported by your video card or similar device
[01:57] <andrivid> I booted ubuntu install on IA64, but when it detected hardware it said i had a non-ubuntu cd.........why did this error happen?
[01:57] <litos_> hello
[01:58] <fblade> how can i make it so it starts at resolution that works?
[01:58] <Phenax> fblade: Well, I don't know any specifics on the bzflag configuration file but you'll probably have to edit it.
[01:58] <Phenax> fblade: Look for a .bzflag or similar file in your ~ folder (/home/user)
[01:59] <searayman> Phenax:  i think i found a good website but its in spanish lol
[01:59] <searayman> Phenax:  and the google translation makes it choppy
[01:59] <Phenax> searayman: Try using Google translation tools
[01:59] <Phenax> searayman: Oh, well can't help there.. I suck at Spanish
[01:59] <FunnyLookinHat> !multiverse
[01:59] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:59] <FunnyLookinHat> !easysource
[01:59] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:00] <Phenax> searayman: Or possibely ask in #xgl or similar, a channel in relation to
[02:00] <Phenax> searayman: About the status of S3 unichrome and XGL
[02:00] <searayman> Phenax:  i am pretty good, but anywho they say to try the live cd koraa because it has built in xgl+compiz and they said to use that as a test
[02:00] <y0ss1_77> is there anyway to get yazak to run on linux using wine?
[02:01] <Phenax> y0ss1_77: I'd say install wine and execute the file through it?
[02:01] <y0ss1_77> i did but it gives an error
[02:01] <twisted> hey, how do I turn off auto-mounting?
[02:01] <Phenax> y0ss1_77: The wine application database holds the status for many Window's applications, maybe you want to check that
[02:01] <y0ss1_77> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\Yazak.exe": Module not found
[02:01] <searayman> Phenax:  http://kororaa.org/static.php?page=static060318-181203
[02:01] <twisted> because I want to use the ntfs-3g driver instead of the normal ntfs, but gnome already has it mounted
[02:01] <Phenax> twisted: Automounting is generally a feature of your Window manager with support of DBUS, it's probably in your window manager configurations
[02:02] <Phenax> twisted: umount /dev/devicenameforwindows
[02:02] <twisted> true
[02:02] <twisted> hmm... can't I replace the auto-mount properties to use ntfs-3g instead of ntfs? or something? u said it was dbus... let's see
[02:02] <y0shi> is there an OS X like menu in ubuntu?
[02:03] <twisted> which ya mean
[02:03] <twisted> the dock?
[02:03] <Phenax> twisted: ntfs-3g is a kernel module. You'll probably need to manually mount it because I doubt many window managers notice it yet.
[02:05] <looktj> i sersiously need help with getting intel pro 2200bg to work
[02:05] <Phenax> looktj: What's an 'intel pro 2200bg', a modem?
[02:05] <Phenax> A ethernet card?
[02:05] <looktj> wireless card
[02:05] <_paul> hi, just wondering why suspend2 isnt included with ubuntu seen as its said to work much better that whatever methods already there>?
[02:05] <y0ss1_77> Phenax where do i find the file to see what happened with wine
[02:06] <josh> how do i login as root?
[02:06] <y0ss1_77> the app database?
[02:06] <Phenax> looktj: Generally, you'd look for the module name and see if you can't load it. If that fails manually compile the kernel with support for it?
[02:06] <jrib> !root > josh
[02:06] <eyequeue> josh, don
[02:06] <eyequeue> josh, don't
[02:06] <eyequeue> !rootsudo > josh
[02:07] <y0shi> you can log in as root if you REALLY want:P
[02:07] <looktj> it was working before i reintalled ubuntu
[02:07] <Phenax> looktj: And I believe wifi requires a bit of extra configuration here and there, maybe try using dhcpcd to obtain the info (dhcpcd wlan0), your device name may not be wlan0
[02:07] <_paul> hi, just wondering why suspend2 isnt included with ubuntu seen as its said to work much better that whatever methods already there>?
[02:07] <Phenax> josh: I believe it's 'sudo passwd', then set your root password, then you'll be able to login as root (or use su)
[02:07] <yossman> on my laptop, the wifi device is 'eth1' instead of 'eth0'
[02:07] <josh> im trying to install a flavor of linux on one of my drives, but when i try to mount or do anything, it says i need to be root
[02:07] <yossman> it's a mini PCI IBM/intel wireless card
[02:07] <y0ss1_77> Phenax: how do i check the application database for wine
[02:07] <eyequeue> Phenax, that is deprecated in this channel, please don't
[02:07] <y0shi> see in http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3304682858126153303&q=xgl&hl=en the OS like menu? can it be installed on ubuntu?
[02:08] <Phenax> y0ss1_77: I'd google for it.. It's a website
[02:08] <y0ss1_77> ohhh
[02:08] <y0ss1_77> kk
[02:08] <looktj> i put my network on eth1 and changed it to my router, "lookwire"
[02:09] <antox_> good evening. I've got the following questions: where interface names are defined for physical network adapters? and where can I include module names, which I want to be inserted at boot-time?
[02:09] <looktj> i also rebooted ubuntu
[02:09] <looktj> still doesnt work
[02:09] <josh> thanks, sudo passwd worked
[02:09] <GTX> Whats the asterix channel name on freenode?
[02:09] <yossman> antox_, try /etc/network/interfaces
[02:10] <twisted> windows scares me
[02:10] <GTX> who doesnt it scare twisted
[02:10] <GTX> :p
[02:10] <josh> oh sweet, this ubotu thing is telling me things
[02:10] <harisund> Can somebody please tell me how to stop ssh-agent from running at boot time?
[02:10] <twisted> omfg
[02:10] <bobbyd_> is ext3 slower than ext2?
[02:10] <GTX> harisund, remove it from /etc/init.d/
[02:10] <twisted> I suddenly realise why I can't boot it
[02:11] <looktj> if i cant get my dell 600m internet to work i going back to xp
[02:11] <GTX> Don't give up that easy looktj !
[02:11] <searayman> can i burn an iso in ubuntu?
[02:11] <antox_> yossman, there is nothing concerning physical adresses in /etc/network/interfaces. :/
[02:11] <h8tred> wondered if someone could help me with making a link to my C: drive, which is a ntfs partition, on my desktop with the hard disk icon, i currently have made a soft link on my desktop, which works, but it does not have the hard disk icon
[02:11] <GTX> In gnome <searayman>, just right click file and click burn
[02:12] <ajmitch> antox_: interface name->MAC mappings are likely to be in /etc/iftab
[02:12] <yossman> antox, oh you're looking for MAC address?
[02:12] <yossman> antox, just 'ifconfig -a' in terminal
[02:12] <looktj> i had working the first time i installed ubuntu which i messed up x-server
[02:12] <searayman> GTX:  and it will burn the sio bootable?
[02:12] <yossman> will tell you hardware address
[02:12] <antox_> ajmitch, 10x a lot!
[02:12] <GTX> of course <searayman>
[02:12] <harisund> GTX: it's not a service that can be stopped. That's what annoys me. A 'ps axjf' listing tells me it is being run as a part x-session-manager but I don't know how to stop x-sessoin-manager from running ssh-agent
[02:12] <FantasticFoo> how do you connect to a wireless network in linux?
[02:12] <FantasticFoo> windows lets me
[02:12] <DanaG> argh, Ubuntu prepackaged kernel == no suspend2.
[02:12] <searayman> GTX:  thank you very much
[02:12] <GTX> no problem <searayman>
[02:12] <DanaG> Time to roll my own.
[02:12] <FunnyLookinHat> ubotu, tell tyler_d about ati
[02:12] <FantasticFoo> it automatically recognizes the signal
[02:12] <DanaG> !kernel > DanaG
[02:13] <eyequeue> josh, such as why we don't use root in ubuntu, read them
[02:13] <GTX> Whats the asterix channel name on freenode?
[02:13] <FantasticFoo> but i don't know how to connect to a wireless network with my laptop
[02:13] <looktj> i reinstall, boom, the internet doesnt work
[02:13] <FunnyLookinHat> !ati
[02:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:14] <josh> im never gonna use root in ubuntu
[02:14] <josh> i just needed to act as root to work with mounting
[02:15] <mythtv> is mythtv supposed to give thousands of SQL syntax errors when mythfilldatabase is run?
[02:15] <TheGame> whats the best stickies program for gnome
[02:15] <Elephant> josh:  Don't say never.
[02:15] <Elephant> Say 'almost never'
[02:15] <TheGame> any1
[02:15] <looktj> my mom is bugging me for this computer, i told her my interent doesnt work and trying to get help
[02:16] <DanaG> How safe is it to "git" the Edgy kernel in Dapper?
[02:16] <antox_> Is there a special file, where on-boot-inserted modules are listed? Or should I add "modprobe" command?
[02:17] <TheGame> nobody uses stickies/
[02:17] <tritium> antox_: /etc/modules
[02:17] <DBO> DanaG, foolish at best
[02:17] <DanaG> Then I should go with the latest Dapper?
[02:17] <DBO> yes
[02:17] <DanaG> I want to go with 2.6.17
[02:17] <tritium> DanaG: why?
[02:17] <josh> haha, ok
[02:17] <DBO> so upgrade to Edgy DanaG
[02:17] <josh> i will almost never login as root
[02:17] <mrbayHU> hello
[02:18] <josh> scouts honor
[02:18] <eyequeue> DanaG, not
[02:18] <antox_> tritium, thank you.
[02:18] <tritium> sure, antox_
[02:18] <pushpop> How do I install flash for firefox?
[02:18] <looktj> brb
[02:18] <nzk> !sex
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <twisted> rofl
[02:18] <TheGame> ?
[02:19] <josh> what the
[02:19] <twisted> Ubuntu seems to take a very long time to "Mounting root partition"
[02:19] <mrbayHU> can i compile additional modules to my apache which was installed from the pkg?
[02:19] <DanaG> Hmm, maybe I don't.
[02:19] <DanaG> I'm looking through changelogs on kernel.org.
[02:19] <twisted> does it always take long when it's a scsi disk?
[02:19] <sysdoc> nzk, ... ahhh nevermind, lol
[02:20] <josh> flash, shockwave and java are already implemented right?
[02:20] <josh> or am i totaly wrong
[02:20] <tritium> josh: you still have to install them
[02:20] <TheGame> shockwave isnt
[02:20] <josh> this is my first time even booting into ubuntu
[02:20] <TheGame> theres no shockwave for linux
[02:20] <Bangers> hi all, im having some issues with ubuntu 6.06 - i have two video cards on my PC onboard and PCI (PCI is connected to monitor though)
[02:21] <ucordes> is there any way to convert BSD applications to ubuntu conformity?
[02:21] <searayman> i want flash 9 for linux!! lol
[02:21] <tritium> pushpop: you want to install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:22] <goof> is there even flash 8 for linux yet?
[02:22] <Bangers> but ubuntu is tryign touse my onboard video as my display which isnt hooked up to the monitor
[02:22] <eyequeue> DanaG, read the last paragraph here:  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-June/000150.html
[02:22] <Bangers> how do i change it
[02:22] <Awesome-o2000> Bangers, diasable it in the bios
[02:22] <Awesome-o2000> disable
[02:23] <pablo_> hello, tmsnc doent works correctly on ubuntu console, it doesnt draws all the characters, what can i do?
[02:23] <Bangers> Awesome-o2000: I already tried, theres no disable option, only "chose first video" which i set to PCI
[02:23] <Awesome-o2000> Bangers, set it to agp
[02:23] <redcard> Hey , does anyone in here have any experience with the iMic USB sound card?  Does that work in Ubuntu on PPC?
[02:23] <jrib> searayman: the only option I know of for flash9 on linux is to use wine
[02:24] <searayman> jrib:  dose that work well
[02:24] <eyequeue> is anyone else experiencing freenode troubles currently?  * Ping reply from eyequeue: 64.54 second(s)
[02:25] <gnomefreak> jrib: would you need ff build for windows also for that
[02:25] <jrib> searayman: works fine, I only tested it out and keep it around in case I ever encounter a dumb site that requires flash9.  Just install firefox through wine and then go to the flash page and install it
[02:25] <finalbeta_> How do I get multiple instances of totem?
[02:25] <looktj> i give up
[02:25] <jrib> gnomefreak: yeah, just get the windows installer for firefox
[02:25] <looktj> i going back xp
[02:25] <finalbeta_> running it several times...
[02:27] <Kill_X> jeez...
[02:27] <lconcepts> i cant get tzdata debian package to install....it says Failed to install package...but shows no other erros
[02:27] <lconcepts> any ideas?
[02:27] <twisted> anyone know if there is finder-clone for linux?
[02:27] <Kill_X> how long does that guy's system take to reboot :o
[02:27] <looktj> i cant my internet to work at all!!!!!!!!!!!:@
[02:27] <TooTallJones> lol
[02:27] <TooTallJones> I have dial-up ;p
[02:27] <effer> my adept notifier keeps telling me i have updates to get....i get the updates, but the icon is still there....i click it and it still wants to update the same 2 packages, but next to them it says 'no change', and i can't get them to go away....what do i do?
[02:27] <Kill_X> :D
[02:27] <Kill_X> I see
[02:28] <finalbeta_> How do I get multiple instances of totem? running it several times.
[02:28] <looktj> i have wireless laptop
[02:28] <next> twisted: I'm not familiar with Finder, but I've heard that Beagle is perhaps similar?
[02:28] <next> Have you tried that?
[02:28] <Cale> Hi, I just compiled a new kernel (since I need reiser4 support), and I lost the pretty status display on bootup and shutdown. Perhaps I'm missing a kernel option? Do I have to do anything special when/before running make-kpkg to get this?
[02:29] <picasso> dumb question: where is "Burn ISO" option in nautilus?
[02:29] <Cale> (It just goes black for those times)
[02:29] <sethk> Cale, console modes, perhaps?
[02:29] <Cale> sethk: hmm
[02:29] <looktj> im getting dell's sopport
[02:29] <looktj> :P
[02:29] <sethk> Cale, I'm assuming that X is working normally.
[02:30] <twisted> next: beagle is like spotlight
[02:30] <Cale> sethk: yes, everything's fine except that :)
[02:30] <sethk> Cale, I forget the exact wording, but turn on the thing that lets you use consoles of other than 80x24
[02:30] <next> Ah, okay.
[02:30] <picasso> anybody? i know it's here somewhere.. how do i burn an ISO file w/ gnome/nautilus?
[02:30] <DanaG> Oh, the one fix I do need isn't even in any of the kernels yet.
[02:30] <DanaG> I need frequency tables for Yonah.
[02:31] <Cale> picasso: I was unaware that you could do that.
[02:31] <harisund> does anybody know how to stop ssh-agent from being started during gnome-login?
[02:31] <Cale> picasso: You can construct a new data CD and burn it though
[02:31] <eyequeue> picasso, gnomebaker
[02:31] <twisted> next: :)
[02:31] <pushpop> How do you uninstall a package you just installed?
[02:31] <finalbeta_> How do I get multiple instances of totem? running it several times.
[02:31] <eyequeue> picasso, right click on the filename
[02:31] <xnull> what ports it's running cyrus pop3d? 110 ?
[02:31] <eyequeue> pushpop, dpkg --purge foo
[02:31] <picasso> eyequeue: ok, just was a bit confusing. i assumed that meant put the actual file on the CD
[02:31] <pushpop> thanks
[02:32] <picasso> i'm trying the context menu item of the ISO, "Write to Disk"
[02:32] <DanaG> I also could use a newer version of ALSA.
[02:32] <picasso> hopefully it'll give me a nice bootable ISO :)
[02:32] <looktj> OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! i hate laptops
[02:32] <eyequeue> picasso, that file is a cd image, and you can also loop-mount it without burning, heh
[02:32] <effer> i'm having some problems...my adept notifier keeps telling me there are updates for two packages...if i get the updates, it says updates complete, goodbye...i close it, and the icon is still there....i click it, the same packages want updates...next to them it say no change.  what should i do?
[02:32] <andrivid> i booted the ubuntu installer on ia64, but when it detected hardware it errored non-ubuntu cd..why?
[02:32] <twisted> damnit
[02:32] <redcard> Does anyone here have a system76 laptop, on that note?
[02:32] <twisted> gonna have to reinstall windows
[02:32] <twisted> *swears*
[02:33] <twisted> I _hate_ ntfs
[02:33] <harisund> !ssh-agent
[02:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ssh-agent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:33] <Miek> :)
[02:33] <looktj> ntfs is more secured and faster
[02:33] <mcquaid> hello, is there an alternative to baobab?  I found baobab is not reporting the correct size on some folders and is not sorting by size properly
[02:33] <next> twisted: I have had similar woes with NTFS. :p
[02:34] <twisted> yep
[02:34] <twisted> off to reinstall
[02:34] <twisted> hopefully back in 30min
[02:34] <twisted> else me passed out
[02:34] <andrivid> helol?????????????
[02:34] <looktj> !intel pro wireless
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel pro wireless - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <amonkey> i can't get freenx installed, it says Invalid value "COMMAND_START_GNOME in nxsetup, what should i do] 
[02:35] <DanaG> looktj: What do you need help with?
[02:35] <looktj> wireless internet
[02:35] <DanaG> My Intel wireless is in linux-restricted-modules -- it's ipw3945, in my case.
[02:36] <finalbeta_> How do I get multiple instances of totem? running it several times.
[02:36] <DanaG> You can add a "network monitor" to the panel.
[02:36] <tritium> looktj: what the problem?
[02:36] <Cainus> hey... is there a way around doing sudo for everything I want to do as root?  I'm doing like 30 lines in a row of sudo to config apache how I like it
[02:36] <DanaG> sudo -i
[02:36] <looktj> i cant get my intel wireless to work tritium
[02:36] <DanaG> as I found out the other day.
[02:37] <DanaG> Define "not work"
[02:37] <Cainus> DanaG: thanks :)
[02:37] <tritium> looktj: how is it configured?  The module should auto-load at boot.  Do you use WEP or WPA?
[02:37] <Cainus> ahhhhh
[02:37] <harisund> amonkey what desktop environment are you using?
[02:37] <amonkey> harisund, the gnome
[02:37] <looktj> firefox, giam dont connect to internet and i do not use a password on my router
[02:38] <harisund> amonkey how did you install FreeNX?
[02:38] <eyequeue> effer, try using apt-get, aptitude, or synaptic?
[02:38] <harisund> Cainus you could temporarily become root.
[02:39] <Cainus> harisund: sudo -i ?
[02:39] <tritium> Cainus: better to use sudo -i
[02:39] <effer> eyequeue, what should i do though?  i've tried dpkg --configure -a, and apt-get install -f
[02:39] <harisund> Cainus sorry, I didn't see DanaG's reply.
[02:39] <Cainus> np... thanks guys
[02:40] <eyequeue> effer, updates for which two packages?  i'd try 'sudo apt-get install foo bar'
[02:40] <mainer> effer: its dpkg-reconfigure    no spaces one dash
[02:40] <looktj> 	Intel (R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection is working but nothing is connecting internet such as firefox
[02:41] <DanaG> Okay, it could be a DHCP problem.
[02:41] <DanaG> My wired DHCP doesn't work.
[02:41] <madmax> question... i tried "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" like it says on the ubuntu site and it says that "GDM already running. Aborting!"
[02:41] <Ares> Anyone know of any good [free]  pornographic blocker[s]  in apt-get? I've tried searching Google, synpatic and searchforge to no avail. [Then again I suck at searching Ubuntu repositories. By porn I mean blocking the images, not one of those chat monitor applications that block out swears and such.
[02:41] <looktj> hmm
[02:41] <DanaG> adblock plus.
[02:41] <Ares> not really a pornoblocker.
[02:41] <DanaG> You'd have to filter, though.
[02:41] <Ares> Pretty easy to bypass.
[02:42] <redcard> Ares: dansguardian is in the repos, I think
[02:42] <DanaG> oh, I see, not just blocking accidental.
[02:42] <Ares> Ahh, ok.
[02:42] <DanaG> I hate when people post porn as tech site forum avatars.
[02:42] <Ares> how would I install dansguardian? apt-get install dansguardian ?
[02:42] <looktj> me too
[02:42] <DanaG> If I want porn, I look for it.  Otherwise, keep it away!@
[02:42] <effer> eyequeue, lame and libfaad2-0
[02:43] <madmax> question... i tried "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" like it says on the ubuntu site and it says that "GDM already running. Aborting!"
[02:43] <redcard> ares: Yep.   tho I wouldn't know how to set it up
[02:43] <effer> mainer, that command gave me this : /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: please specify a package to reconfigure
[02:43] <scrappy_> Ares: apt-cache search dansguardian if it shows up apt-get install the package name
[02:43] <Ares> Redcard: Oh they joy then =P
[02:43] <skroll> Is there any good ncurses based ftp client (something with a semi-gui)?
[02:43] <redcard> Ares: I think www.dansguardian.org has info on it.
[02:43] <nullbnx> hey yall, just looking for some info... what makes ubuntu the *nix distro to use....
[02:43] <Ares> thanks, I'm downloading it now through apt.
[02:43] <mainer> effer: what are you trying to do,exactly??
[02:43] <redcard> I know that a christian distribution of ubuntu is using it
[02:44] <ScreaminIke> if i'm hooked up to a lan, but dialed to the internet, how do i allow one of the lan machines to acces the net, too?
[02:44] <nullbnx> i went from fbsd for a long time, to suse now, and just wondering why so man people are deciding to go to ubuntu...
[02:44] <skroll> nullbnx: Ubuntu makes using Linux as a desktop much easier then any other distro I've used.
[02:44] <scrappy_> ScreaminIke: most people would install firestarter i think and setup connection sharing
[02:44] <Ares> redcard: I'm scared the Christian distribution would block out the word "evolution" and "stem cell research" =P
[02:45] <skroll> nullbnx: Especially on the configuration side, I've toyed with quite a few distros, and I run freebsd as server, but Ubuntu makes the desktop painless
[02:45] <ScreaminIke> firestarter? the firewall?
[02:45] <nullbnx> Ubuntu: features such as...
[02:45] <freebse> nullbx: why did you change from freebsd - gm I can not understand it
[02:45] <madmax> i use ubuntu because i like the debian package manager (i can update my entire system with a few clicks and just leave it overnight to download) and it has the latest gnome
[02:45] <goochy> nullbnx: I'm a linux newb and even I can configure Ubuntu for everyday desktop use
[02:45] <pablo_> hello, in my console i am missing non ascii caharcters
[02:46] <pablo_> for example i dont have the 
[02:46] <redcard> Ares: Nah, just porn :)
[02:46] <lookt> now where can i find wireless moducules?
[02:46] <pablo_>    
[02:46] <skroll> nullbnx: on top of that, when I installed off the live cd, it automatically configured the media buttons on my laptop, the widescreen in X, and sound.
[02:46] <madmax> does anyone know how i can get some plugins for totem to view divx (and such) files? are there any in synaptic ?
[02:46] <nullbnx> but im not a nix newb...
[02:46] <skroll> nullbnx: I had to fight with gentoo for ages to get my X to work properly
[02:46] <nullbnx> skroll, thats def. cool for lappys
[02:46] <nullbnx> skroll, as did i w/ fbsd...
[02:47] <skroll> nullbnx: just check out the livecd for a bit
[02:47] <nullbnx> skroll, but with systems like fbsd there so secure and tight and configured to you and only you that you won't have any system problems knowing what your doing...
[02:47] <lookt> brb
[02:47] <Commander-Crowe> I have ubuntu and xubuntu install on a machine with no internet
[02:47] <nullbnx> skroll, what im worried about with these "easy" distros are leaks in the kernels and too many other random problems
[02:47] <Commander-Crowe> and I now have Kubuntu on a disc
[02:48] <freebse> from scratch :) with bsd LOL
[02:48] <pablo_> what do i have to install to have all the characters on the console?
[02:48] <scrappy_> lookt: modules? look install the restricted modules for your kernel first thing apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` i think
[02:48] <Commander-Crowe> I want to install Kubuntu right along side Ubuntu and Xubuntu
[02:48] <andrivid> this  chat is useless
[02:48] <jrib> Commander-Crowe: you can just install the kubuntu-desktop package
[02:49] <Commander-Crowe> jrib: I have no internet on the comp
[02:49] <skroll> nullbnx: it's worth a shot.
[02:49] <jrib> Commander-Crowe: I know the ubuntu cd can be used as a repository, I assume the same is true for the kubuntu cd, did you try?
[02:49] <skroll> nullbnx: it's pretty well rounded out
[02:49] <effer> i'm having some problems...my adept notifier keeps telling me there are updates for two packages...if i get the updates, it says updates complete, goodbye...i close it, and the icon is still there....i click it, the same packages want updates...next to them it say no change.  what should i do?
[02:49] <Led_Zeppelin> Okay, just installed Ubuntu Graphical, now its keep saying 'No Operating system'
[02:49] <Commander-Crowe> jrib: how do i set that up?
[02:49] <scrappy_> Commander-Crowe: there is an apt-zip application never used it though other than that the dvd image i guess
[02:50] <DanaG> Okay, I'm confused about how the Ubuntu kernel setup works.
[02:50] <redcard> DanaG: How so?
[02:50] <DanaG> In other distros, it goes into /usr/src/linux-<versioin>
[02:50] <jrib> Commander-Crowe: do you use synaptic or do you prefer apt-get?
[02:50] <DanaG> in mine, when I ran "git", it put it in my home/
[02:50] <redcard> Actually, it can go anywhere.
[02:50] <freebse> exactly
[02:51] <DanaG> Also, there are separate .config files.  How do I make there be just one .config?
[02:51] <Commander-Crowe> jrib: doesn't matter but lets go apt-get
[02:51] <redcard> Hmm.. I dunno ..
[02:51] <jrib> Commander-Crowe: well synaptic, you would just go edit > add cdrom, or instead in the terminal you can do 'apt-cdrom add'
[02:51] <redcard> There should be a howto on doing it at Ubuntuforums.org
[02:51] <h8tred> wondered if someone could help me with making a link to my C: drive, which is a ntfs partition, on my desktop with the hard disk icon, i currently have made a soft link on my desktop, which works, but it does not have the hard disk icon
[02:52] <madmax> how do people here see movies? i tried totem but it won't open any file
[02:52] <h8tred> madmax: get mplayer
[02:52] <jrib> !multimedia > madmax
[02:52] <freebse> madmax: vlc
[02:52] <pablo_> why it appears this 
[02:52] <jrib> madmax: I prefer mplayer as well, but ubotu should have sent you info on getting totem to play your files
[02:52] <pablo_> instead of 
[02:53] <Commander-Crowe> jrib: I'll try that once SuSE finishes install
[02:53] <madmax> i was going to... but i'm too lazy to do it today :) i just migrated from slackware and there totem worked with all the files
[02:53] <madmax> ubotu?
[02:53] <freebse> madmax: this is a codec problem
[02:53] <GigaClon> when i install sun-java5-jre where does the JVM go?
[02:53] <Commander-Crowe> !ubotu
[02:53] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:53] <scrappy_> madmax: wiki.ubuntu.com search for mp3 or divx etc
[02:53] <h8tred> madmax: you know, mr. ubotu, lol
[02:54] <madmax> oh... i saw the message... new version of xchat :)
[02:54] <eyequeue> effer, 'sudo apt-get install lame libfaad2'
[02:54] <freebse> madmax: just install all gstreamer files and the w32-codecs
[02:54] <eyequeue> !restrictedformats > madmax
[02:54] <aferthas> Hello there! I have problem with building my nvidia kernel module... I'm fresh out of Gentoo, so please help me...
[02:55] <Warbo> aferthas: I use module-assistant to do everything, then change my xorg.conf manually
[02:55] <effer> eyequeue, can i IM you the output of that?
[02:55] <aferthas> Warbo, Hm.. Sounds scary...
[02:55] <DanaG> I just want to use a custom config, and perhaps one patch (vesafb-tng).
[02:55] <Warbo> !info module-assistant
[02:55] <Cale> madmax: I used "Easy Ubuntu" to get codecs and Java and Flash set up. You can google for it, it's handy.
[02:55] <ubotu> module-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.2 (dapper), package size 72 kB, installed size 368 kB
[02:56] <GigaClon> when i install sun-java5-jre where does the JVM go?
[02:56] <Warbo> Has anyone here started getting problems with fetchyahoo?
[02:56] <effer> Reading package lists... Done
[02:56] <effer> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:56] <effer> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[02:56] <effer> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[02:56] <effer> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[02:56] <effer> or been moved out of Incoming.
[02:56] <effer> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[02:56] <effer> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:56] <effer>   lame: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is to be installed
[02:56] <Warbo> GigaClon: /usr/lib/something
[02:56] <effer>   libfaad2-0: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is to be installed
[02:56] <effer> E: Broken packages
[02:56] <Warbo> !paste > effer
[02:56] <effer> juztin@ubuntujuztin:~$
[02:56] <DanaG> Heck, there is no 2.6.17 vesafb-tng.
[02:56] <effer> yes i know
[02:56] <Warbo> then use
[02:57] <effer> that was meant to be pm'd
[02:57] <Warbo> !pastebin > effer
[02:57] <eyequeue> effer, sure thing
[02:57] <jrib> GigaClon: dpkg -L packagename, will tell you where files go
[02:57] <effer> Warbo, i got it, thanks
[02:57] <phargle> !pastebin effer
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin effer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <aferthas> Actually, the problem I have when installing the nvidia kernel module is that it just fails, with the message: nvidia.ko failed to build!
[02:57] <effer> !pastebin > phargle
[02:57] <dubious> anybody got any favorite ubuntu reference / resource sites?
[02:57] <effer> i know
[02:57] <effer> i know i know i know
[02:57] <Warbo> GigaClon: It sounds like you might be after "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[02:58] <effer> it was an accident!
[02:58] <effer> jeez
[02:59] <Warbo> Can somebody here who hasn't used any external repositories try something for me please?
[02:59] <rs31337> Warbo, sure
[02:59] <gpled> can't seem to get jre to work
[03:00] <gpled> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[03:00] <gpled> any ideas?
[03:00] <Warbo> rs31337: OK, I am getting a problem when I run "sudo apt-get build-dep enlightenment" and I have filed a bug, but the maintainer says it is fine in a regular Dapper install
[03:00] <rs31337> okay, will try that
[03:01] <Warbo> rs31337: Can you run that and see if there is an error about "xlibs-data"? You don't have to install anything, since it doesn't get that far for me
[03:01] <rs31337> i also get shot down; E: Package xlibs-data has no installation candidate
[03:01] <Warbo> rs31337: Yes! Right, off to Launchpad I go...
[03:01] <rs31337> okay :)
[03:08] <mythtv> my mythtv audio seems to be ~1 second ahead of the video. anyone know how to fix?
[03:09] <tyler_d> help me to get my dual monitor working with a radeon 9600 please??
[03:11] <Ares> Anyone know how to get dansguardian working, I keep getting an error. =(
[03:12] <Ares> "invoke-rc.d: initscript dansguardian, action "start" failed."
[03:12] <tyler_d> help me to get my dual monitor working with a radeon 9600 please??
[03:14] <ardchoille> I'm sitting at 192.168.0.4, ssh'd into 192.168.0.2. Is there an app that will let the user sitting at that box chat/communicate with me sitting at this box?
[03:14] <ardchoille> Yes, I'm too lazy to climb two flights of stairs ;)
[03:14] <Ares> You can get gaim and chat to yourself =P
[03:15] <scrappy_> Ares: write
[03:15] <scrappy_> ardchoille: er ^ ;p
[03:15] <Led_Zeppelin> hey, can someone give me screenshots of Ubuntu Graphical installer?
[03:15] <ardchoille> scrappy_: write? I didn't know I had it
[03:15] <Led_Zeppelin> or where I can find them?
[03:16] <Ares> scrappy_: Huh?
[03:16] <tyler_d> does anyone have dual monitors running?
[03:16] <scrappy_> ardchoille: i only use it to annoy others on the network
[03:16] <Ares> Oh, ok; nevermind.
[03:16] <ardchoille> scrappy_: Wowsers, write will work fine, Thanks
[03:16] <ardchoille> scrappy_: lol
[03:17] <MrWoo> hello
[03:17] <Ares> scrappy_: Know how to get dansguardian working =P
[03:17] <scrappy_> Ares: sorry never used it ;-)
[03:17] <Ares> Do you know the Christian IRC then? =P
[03:18] <tyler_d> anyone please... cries dual monitors...
[03:18] <tyler_d> ??
[03:19] <ardchoille> tyler_d: If someone knows, they will answer
[03:19] <tyler_d> ardchoille: thanks.... just anxious is all
[03:19] <MrWoo> i am currently using a 3500+ AMD, X1600XT radeon graphics card, belkin 54G wireless card, 120 western digital ata100 hard drive, will ubuntu play nice with these components if i install it?
[03:19] <mcquaid> I'd like to get kde looking more like gnome for the odd kde app.  I use tango in gnome, but it looks a little daunting to get it for kde
[03:19] <ardchoille> :)
[03:19] <rs31337> tyler_d, have you searched ubuntuforums.org?
[03:19] <bruenig> perhaps try the forums or the wiki
[03:19] <rs31337> i'm guessing there are threads on that
[03:20] <mythtv> I forgot: where is the GUI location to set what sound drivers to use? e.g., alsa vs oss
[03:20] <scrappy_> MrWoo: nice setup id switch to nvidia though thats a pretty new ati card
[03:20] <Phat32> Can anyone help me with my fstab setup? I want to mount /dev/hdb1 so that my normal user account can access it, not root only. It is an ext3 partition.
[03:20] <bruenig> Phat32, yeah
[03:20] <DanaG> argh, :
[03:20] <DanaG> +#ifdef CONFIG_X86_SPEEDSTEP_CENTRINO_BUILTIN_YONAH
[03:20] <DanaG> +	/* Builtin tables for Yonah CPUs */
[03:20] <DanaG> +	// To Do
[03:20] <DanaG> +#endif /* CONFIG_X86_SPEEDSTEP_CENTRINO_BUILTIN_YONAH */
[03:20] <MrWoo> scrappy, well i don't really have that luxury, i'm sticking with the ati card
[03:20] <Phat32> bruenig, Thanks ahead of time
[03:20] <rs31337> MrWoo, i did have issues with a belkin 54g once
[03:20] <MrWoo> i was having some trouble with a copy of breezy badger a friend gave me\
[03:20] <Ares> Hmm, ok dansguardian isn't working, any help on getting censornet installed through the installing from source crap?>
[03:21] <bruenig> Phat32, does it already mount or do you need to add that entry?
[03:21] <DanaG> In other words, I won't get SpeedStep.
[03:21] <MrWoo> rs31337, like what?
[03:21] <maxx03> hey ppl... can anyone recommend a program which searches for wireless networks?
[03:21] <Fenster> hey fellas.. anyone know a good app launcher in gnome
[03:21] <Fenster> somethin catchy
[03:21] <Phat32> bruenig, I need to add that entry
[03:21] <Fenster> maxkelley,   network-manager-gnome ?
[03:21] <mcquaid> ah it looks like way too much work to get tango in kde. too bad
[03:21] <rs31337> MrWoo, well, i couldn't get ndiswrapper to work with it (using windows drivers)
[03:21] <Fenster> maxx,   network-manager-gnome ?
[03:22] <maxx03> Fenster, ok thanks i'll try it out
[03:22] <MrWoo> rs31337, i have no idea what ndiswrapper is
[03:22] <Fenster> it replaces the current network manager
[03:22] <Fenster> it is nice
[03:22] <DanaG> Oh, and why is "Support for hot-pluggable devices" NOT enabled in the Ubuntu configs?
[03:22] <Fenster> and adds wpa support
[03:22] <bruenig> Phat32, open up a terminal first to create the directory where it will be mounted (sudo mkdir /media/hdb1)
[03:22] <ardchoille> Fenster: app launcher? please elaborate
[03:22] <Fenster> like one of those neat launchers like mac
[03:22] <TheGame> can some1 tell me why frostwire is gray
[03:22] <Fenster> like with cool mouseover effects
[03:22] <Phat32> bruenig, I have done that part but I called the directory storage and not hdb1
[03:22] <ardchoille> Fenster: Oh, ok
[03:23] <rs31337> MrWoo, ah, well, a lot of wireless devices do not have open source drivers for Linux (yet) and instead are supported by using ndiswrapper, which is a program that allows you to use windows wireless drivers in linux
[03:23] <Phat32> bruenig, What next?
[03:23] <bruenig> Phat32, ok that is fine
[03:23] <bruenig> Phat32, do sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[03:23] <MrWoo> rs31337, i c
[03:23] <Phat32> bruenig, ready
[03:23] <MrWoo> rs31337, were you ever able to get it to work?
[03:23] <ardchoille> bruenig: not a good idea to use sudo with graphical apps. use gksudo
[03:23] <rs31337> MrWoo, you might have success with it though.  just expect to have to do a little reading
[03:24] <Phat32> bruenig, I'll use nano
[03:24] <rs31337> MrWoo, eh, i ended up returning it for a Netgear 54G card ;)
[03:24] <DanaG> PCIe support is also disabled.
[03:24] <bruenig> the entry should look like this /dev/hdb1       /media/storage           ext3    defaults        0       0
[03:24] <DanaG> As well as cardbus support.
[03:24] <DanaG> What gives?
[03:24] <MrWoo> rs31337, thats not very encouraging :-)
[03:24] <bruenig> you can change the ext3 if it is another filesystem (ntfs, fat32, etc) and you can change /media/storage to whatever the mount point is
[03:24] <rs31337> MrWoo, i know :(  i have seen many cases where the same card is revised two or three times, and each one has a different chipset
[03:24] <Phat32> bruenig, thanks! I'll try that. One sec, brb
[03:24] <rs31337> MrWoo, i very likely had a different card, even if it's the same spec and manufacturer
[03:25] <bruenig> Phat32, there is one more thing
[03:25] <MrWoo> rs31337
[03:25] <Fenster> you can change to ext3?
[03:25] <MrWoo> rs31337, well i'm making it a dual boot config anyway
[03:25] <DanaG> All these things are disabled in the config, and yet they work.
[03:25] <Phat32> bruenig, What's that?
[03:25] <bruenig> Phat32, you need to do sudo chown -R username /media/storage, substitute username for your's and /media/storage to whatever it is
[03:25] <MrWoo> rs31337, so i can always go back to my XP if anything goes wrong (actually thats what i'm doing right now, for some reason x server won't work)
[03:25] <maxx03> Fenster, ok i installed it... how to i run it? it doesn't seem to have put an entry in my start menu or whatever it's called
[03:25] <rs31337> MrWoo, good call; you might have no trouble getting it working, but if you do, at least then you won't be completely without connectivity
[03:26] <bruenig> so that you can view it as a normal user and not root
[03:26] <Fenster> restart
[03:26] <Fenster> it will take over
[03:26] <bruenig> after that restart and it will go
[03:26] <Fenster> then click on it
[03:26] <maxx03> oh ok sweet
[03:26] <rs31337> MrWoo, good luck.  i gotta go eat. ;D
[03:26] <maxx03> ok i'll come back if i have any problems
[03:26] <maxx03> thanks
[03:26] <farous> any one know what is the normal operating temp for external hard drives? what is the max in partic.
[03:26] <MrWoo> which brings me to my next question, i have a radeon X1600XT, i tried installing breezy badger and X server crashed, is that related to my graphics card?
[03:26] <Phat32> bruenig, I have to do that before or after it is mounted?
[03:27] <DanaG> Oh, I see, the premade .config files are b0rked.
[03:27] <fiveiron> so whats a good backup solution for linux?
[03:27] <DanaG> Copying the CURRENT config works.
[03:27] <bruenig> Phat32, you can do it after it is mounted, it doesn't matter
[03:27] <fiveiron> as in storage backup
[03:27] <Ares> Hmm, I'm curious, dansguardian, does it actually block connections from the computer it's installed on?
[03:27] <Fenster> it will be up in the top right
[03:27] <redcard> Ares: If it's set up correctly, yeah..
[03:27] <ych> farous 40C would be realistic, anything beyond 50C is high
[03:27] <fiveiron> Ares, I recommend using squidGuard
[03:27] <Ares> squidguard
[03:27] <Phat32> bruenig, Ok I will try it
[03:27] <Ares> how do I get that?
[03:27] <bruenig> but if you don't do it, you it will be read only
[03:27] <fiveiron> Ares, apt-get install squidguard
[03:27] <bruenig> -you
[03:27] <sagarp> does anyone know of a standalone sound visualizing program?
[03:28] <ych> but something below 40 would be even better
[03:28] <Cheate1> anyone know if grub supports booting off ean external hard driv
[03:28] <farous> ych: thanx do you know of any sensors package that can be used to measure the temp for usb drives
[03:28] <ych> hmmm
[03:28] <ych> dunno sorry
[03:28] <ych> dont have one myself
[03:28] <MrWoo> does anyone know if my radeon X1600XT is the culprit behind Xserver not working?
[03:28] <farous> ych: the prob is mine is really high when i touch it i know it is high which bother me a lot
[03:28] <fiveiron> Ares, and if you want to block stuff on the computer squidGuard is installed on, you must either setup squid to be a transparent proxy, or change the proxy settings in your browser to point to squid's port
[03:28] <ych> hmmm
[03:28] <sagarp> mrwoo: did you check the X logs
[03:28] <DanaG> It's impossible to get SMART from USB.
[03:28] <tin_nqn> hello people. How can I get easyubuntu full, to install his features without an internet connection?
[03:28] <ych> are you using something to monitor temps for your internal drives right now?
[03:29] <DanaG> USB only supports a small subset of SCSI commands.
[03:29] <MrWoo> sagarp, yea, i couldn't make any sense of them
[03:29] <tin_nqn> is it possible?
[03:29] <DanaG> Too bad, I need the same.
[03:29] <ych> oh ok
[03:29] <farous> i thought it won't be a prob but i would guess around 60
[03:29] <farous> ych: yah lmsensors
[03:29] <ych> hmm
[03:29] <MrWoo> sagarp, i'm kinda new to linux, but i know a fair deal about hardware
[03:29] <scrappy_> tin_nqn: i think that might take the 'easy' out of easybuntu
[03:29] <Cheate1> Does anyone know if grub supports external drive boots?
[03:29] <kingwolf> Has anyone here installed GDM themes?  The man says file type must be tar.gz (as mine is), but I get an "invalid file type" error when selecting the theme.tar.gz...Thoughts?
[03:29] <ych> ok, well, the hardware specs of most HDDs state max temp as 60 or 65
[03:29] <ych> you can google it if you know the mfg
[03:30] <farous> yah say ambient temp
[03:30] <sagarp> mrwoo: what does X do when you try to start it?
[03:30] <ardchoille> kingwolf: gdm themes can also be .tar.bz2
[03:30] <farous> which mean surrond temp max 60
[03:30] <Cheate1> Does anyone know if grub supports external drive boots?
[03:30] <ych> however I'd suggest going for at least 10 under for a longer lifetime
[03:30] <ych> 60C is abit hot though....
[03:30] <kingwolf> ardchoille, Any thought as to why it won't accect the standard tarball?
[03:30] <ych> if you can measure it to be that high with a normal thermometer...
[03:30] <Ares> fiveiron: Do you know of any good docs to do that? =/
[03:30] <farous> ych: it is basically a desktop hd put in case
[03:31] <bruenig> Phat32, if you are still there, you can make a symbolic link to it if you don't want to always navigate to /media/storage by doing 'cd /whatever/directory/you/want/' 'ln -s /media/storage'
[03:31] <MrWoo> i don't try to start anything, ubuntu starts up and the login screen (in command line form) comes up, then goes away, then comes up, then goes away, then Xserver says its not working
[03:31] <bruenig> just a tip, not necessary
[03:31] <ardchoille> kingwolf: I can only guess that something about the way the tarball was packaged it causing the problem
[03:31] <Cheate1> Does anyone know if grub supports external drive boots?
[03:31] <ardchoille> !patience > Cheate1
[03:31] <fiveiron> Ares, msg me
[03:31] <farous> ych: maxtor 6l300r0 to be precise
[03:31] <sagarp> mrwoo: did you find any lines with EE in the front of them in /var/logs/Xserver.0.log
[03:31] <MrWoo> i don't know, i didn't look in there
[03:31] <tin_nqn> scrappy_, I need install a system to play mp3, and multimedia in general in an offline PC. Do you know something? a List of packages to download once?
[03:31] <kingwolf> ardchoille, I DL'd them from Gnome look, I would think they'd be packaged properly...
[03:32] <farous> and the temp i measure at the case whcih make me wonder what the true temp is
[03:32] <sagarp> mrwoo: that's the X log...where it will put errors if it finds any
[03:32] <MrWoo> sagarp, i'm using breezy badger distro, does that not play well with very new ATI cards?
[03:32] <sagarp> mrwoo: /var/log ** sorry, not logs
[03:32] <ardchoille> kingwolf: Just because they ar on gnome-look.org doesn't mean the author didn't make a mistake
[03:32] <ardchoille> kingwolf: I have found quite a few tarballs there that weren't packaged correctly
[03:32] <sagarp> mrwoo: i have no idea, but i'm sure it works fine..unless you're using the incorrect driver
[03:33] <MrWoo> sagarp, i'm not on linux right now, i'm on the same computer but with my windows running
[03:33] <Phat32> bruenig, It works very well now! Thank you very much!
[03:33] <Jimbo_> does anyone know the package name for installing wxwindows? i'm trying to compile an app that needs it. All i can find it the gtk lib and some others. Is there a main package?
[03:33] <bruenig> good
[03:33] <MrWoo> sagarp, but i'll go check those x server logs
[03:33] <scrappy_> tin_nqn: if you search wiki.ubuntu.com for mp3 the same page has instructions on other codecs you can download the packages by themselves
[03:33] <sagarp> mrwoo: oh then it's probably definitely NOT a video card problem...i'm pretty sure the "radeon" or "ati" drviers would work in breezy
[03:33] <Cheate1> Does anyone know if grub supports external drive boots?
[03:33] <bruenig> !grub
[03:33] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:33] <ardchoille> kingwolf: You might untar that tarball, retrieve the author's email address and contact him/her
[03:34] <kingwolf> ardchoille, Hmm, -every- one I DL'd isn't opening.  Even the tar.bz2
[03:34] <drbreen> is there a repository for the gimme panel ?
[03:34] <scrappy_> tin_nqn: they will just be deb files so after download sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:34] <drbreen> or a deb file ?
[03:34] <Ares> Fiveiron, you getting any of my messages?
[03:34] <DanaG> How does lsmod work?
[03:35] <tin_nqn> scrappy_, ok, thanks.
[03:35] <DanaG> Does it show module THEN dependency, or dependency THEN module?
[03:35] <Ares> Fiveiron: Just my luck, you left -,-
[03:35] <scrappy_> tin_nqn: you can also dowload them from packages.ubntu.com i think
[03:35] <DanaG> Is it dependencies or dependants?
[03:35] <Ryan27> Hi everyone, I have a problem installing Ubuntu on my Mac Mini. I need to edit the repo list that was installed onto the hard drive while I'm currently running a chrooted terminal. How do I do this?
[03:35] <ardchoille> kingwolf: you can untar the gdm theme into /usr/share/gdm/themes and then open the gdm theme manager and see if it recognises it. I always just untar them into /usr/share/gdm/themes anyway.
[03:35] <pschulz01> Greetings.. just received my ShipIT CDROM's... a big thankyou.
[03:35] <pschulz01> Ryan27: Old or new MacMini?
[03:35] <Ricesteam> Hi, I accidently removed the "taskbar" from gnome panels and I don't know how to get it back??
[03:36] <drbreen> danag: dependencies
[03:36] <Ryan27> New
[03:36] <Ryan27> Intel Core Solo
[03:36] <DanaG> I get "in use".
[03:36] <fiveiron> Ares, i'm still here... check your msg
[03:36] <drbreen> ardchoille: you know a decent gdm greeter theme xml tutorial ?
[03:36] <Ares> fiveiron: I don't think my messages ever worked in Gaim IRC.
[03:36] <Ares> fiveiron: Sorry =/
[03:36] <fiveiron> oh
[03:36] <drbreen> ricesteam: left click on panel
[03:37] <ardchoille> drbreen: No, sorry. I wish there was a gdm theme designer
[03:37] <fiveiron> Ares, you can just look at the squid docs at http://www.squid.org
[03:37] <bruenig> Ricesteam, did you lose the whole panel or just the task bar part?
[03:37] <drbreen> ricesteam: choose "add stuff" from the menu
[03:37] <DanaG> rmmod speedstep_centrino
[03:37] <DanaG> ERROR: Module speedstep_centrino is in use
[03:37] <drbreen> ardchoille i wish too
[03:37] <Ricesteam> the taskbar
[03:37] <Ricesteam> i thought i was removing a seperator
[03:37] <ardchoille> drbreen: Are you good with xml?
[03:37] <Ricesteam> but i removed the "taskbar"
[03:37] <drbreen> ricesteam: did you kill the whole panel ?
[03:37] <kingwolf> What is the term command for moving a file to another folder?
[03:37] <Ricesteam> no the panel is still there
[03:37] <Ares> fiveiron: Thats the wrong site =P
[03:37] <bruenig> Ricesteam, right click on the panel you want it on where you want it and do add to panel, then windows list i think
[03:38] <drbreen> ardchoille: i suppose no. but i managed to build my gdm theme...
[03:38] <Phenax> kingwolf: mv
[03:38] <Ricesteam> no i dont need window list, i need the taskbar
[03:38] <kingwolf> ardchoille, If permission is denied, how do I change that (access to theme folder)
[03:38] <drbreen> kingwolf: dont change permissions, use sudo
[03:38] <bruenig> Ricesteam, the entire panel, or just that part? I guess an easier way to ask is, how many panels do you have?
[03:38] <ardchoille> drbreen: I just take apart other themes, mix and match, edit the xml file in gedit and repackage. I hear that is what most people do anyway
[03:39] <drbreen> ardchoille: yeah, me too
[03:39] <Ares> fiveiron: Yep, can't find any documentation on what I want to do.
[03:39] <fiveiron> Ares, sorry... http://www.squid-cache.org
[03:39] <ardchoille> kingwolf: use sudo in a term or gksudo nautilus. Please don't change the perms on that folder.
[03:39] <kingwolf> Phenax drbreen , Is there an easy way to move 15 items at once?
[03:39] <Ricesteam> bruenig i have the panel, i just removed a component of the panel by accident, and in my case, i removed teh "taskbar" as I am not sure what is is called in Gnome terms
[03:39] <bruenig> Ricesteam, I refer you to previous post
[03:39] <bruenig> follow that
[03:39] <bruenig> windows list is task bar component
[03:39] <drbreen> kingwolf: yeah it is - hust use the wildcard '*'
[03:39] <Jimbo_> hmm, has anyone built/installed mute on ubuntu?
[03:39] <robert_> blah
[03:39] <robert_> I can't get gbsplay to work
[03:40] <singleton> anyone out there use freenet 0.7? GNU/Nix newbie trying to find his way through some problems...
[03:40] <drbreen> jimbo_: wtf mute ?
[03:40] <DanaG> Is it worthwhile to compile things like yenta-socket into the kernel rather than as modules?
[03:40] <robert_> it wants OSS
[03:40] <Jimbo_> drbreen: it's a p2p app
[03:40] <kingwolf> drbreen, Can I get that written explicitly? :D
[03:40] <fiveiron> Ares, and for more in depth installation of the squidGuard content filter for squid, check out http://www.squidguard.org
[03:40] <drbreen> kingwolf: exactly *what* is your problem ?
[03:41] <fiveiron> i've got it running on my network currently...  very very nice.  all ads pretty much are blocked, and anything else I want blocked
[03:41] <MrWoo> sagarp, there was not file
[03:41] <bruenig> Jimbo_, do you mean mutella or mute?
[03:41] <justin420> hi all. can anybody tell me or show me a good FAQ as reguarding to autostarting say x11vnc on ubuntu dapper? Using gnome? I tried using .gnomerc and it seems to show zombie processes from starting my app using .gnomerc.
[03:41] <MrWoo> sagarp, i check var/log/xserver.0.log and it said no such file or directory existed
[03:41] <drbreen> ardchoille: do you know a lightweight html WYSIWYG / WYSIWYM editor that i could use if i really badly wanted a "gdm greeter designer" ?
[03:41] <Jimbo_> bruenig: mute
[03:41] <sagarp> MrWoo: there's always a file....where did you look? it should be /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:41] <kingwolf> drbreen I have 15 tarballs on my desktop that I need to move to /usr/share/gdm/themes.  But it won't let me move them there without sudo.
[03:42] <MrWoo> sagarp, thats what i checked
[03:42] <Flannel> drbreen: nvu is as lighweiht as they get, I believe.
[03:42] <MrWoo> sagarp, it said it didn't exist
[03:42] <Ares> fiveiron: Thanks for your help, you've been great haha, though, I have absolutely no idea how to do any of this in the next hour. =(
[03:42] <sagarp> MrWoo: it's always there...are you sure you checked in /var/log? or did you forget the first slash, and jsut type var/log ?
[03:42] <Jimbo_> bruenig: it had alot of errors while building. probably to do with wxwidgets, which i can't seem to find a main package for.
[03:42] <Ares> fiveiron: Anyway, thanks and bye.
[03:42] <fiveiron> Ares, are you using ubuntu
[03:42] <willzzz> how do i change my windowmanager back to the gnome default?
[03:42] <fiveiron> ?
[03:42] <MrWoo> sagarp, i'll try again, also it said taht X Server was configured improperly
[03:42] <steve___> can anyone jog my memory a little...  I lost my hdd and installed kubuntu on my dell 700m and now fn+esc doesn't put it to stand by...  i know i had to wrestle with it 8 months ago to get it to work and currently my brain is drawing a blank
[03:43] <drbreen> kingwolf: sudo cp ~/Desktop/*.tar /usr/share/gdm/themes && sudo tar -xzf /usr/share/gdm/themes/*.tar
[03:43] <drbreen> okay ?
[03:43] <MrWoo> sagarp, cause thats helpful to me
[03:43] <DanaG> ... anyone?
[03:43] <bruenig> jimb_, tis what it says on download site Downloading and running this application
[03:43] <bruenig> is just one click away. No need to install!
[03:43] <willzzz> i installed kubuntu-desktop and want gdm back
[03:43] <singleton> anyone know where the .jar file extracts to once I run this...
[03:43] <singleton> wget http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/installer/new_installer.jar
[03:43] <singleton> java -jar new_installer.jar
[03:43] <sagarp> MrWoo: okay...if you dont want to keep restarting to get back on irc, download irssi...it's a CLI irc client
[03:43] <eyequeue> pschulz01, how long did shipit take for you?
[03:43] <Ares> fiveiron: Yeah?
[03:43] <MrWoo> sagarp, i have no internet once i boot linux
[03:43] <Flannel> MrWoo, sagarp, irssi is already installed
[03:44] <bruenig> jimbo_, nevermind that was a mute client, not mute itself, it was called klik
[03:44] <bruenig> my fault
[03:44] <MrWoo> sagarp, i think ubuntu doesn't like my wireless internet card
[03:44] <sagarp> MrWoo: oh lol never mind then
[03:44] <fiveiron> Ares, you should just be able to do "sudo apt-get install squidguard"  one sec... lemme make sure thats the right package name
[03:44] <drbreen> flannel: nvu doe not seem to be that lightweight.... anything else ?
[03:44] <miguelsr> some one know how to optimizer openoffice?
[03:44] <ardchoille> drbreen: No, I do all xml/html/python/perl editing in vim
[03:44] <sagarp> Flannel: oh yeahi just noticed :P
[03:44] <Flannel> drbreen: "lightweight WYSIWYG" is a contradiction in terms
[03:44] <MrWoo> sagarp, i have a belkin 54g wireless card and when ubuntu was trying to configure dhcp it failed
[03:44] <TheGame> whats a good stickies program
[03:44] <Jimbo_> bruenig: http://mute-net.sourceforge.net/ - the unix source i'm trying to build
[03:44] <Ares> fiveiron: It is it is, I can install it but I just don't have any time to configure it into a proxy filter thing.
[03:44] <kingwolf> drbreen Is that all one command?
[03:44] <drbreen> ardchoille: i use gedit, so i am the noob (:
[03:44] <DanaG> DHCP fails on my WIRED ethernet card too.
[03:45] <Ricesteam_> How do I add a "taskbar" component to my Gnome panels?
[03:45] <kingwolf> drbreen Or is there a break at the second sudo?
[03:45] <drbreen> kingwolf: tear it and take it apart if you dont like it
[03:45] <bruenig> Jimbo_, did you try cd into the directory then running ./runToBuild
[03:45] <fiveiron> Ares, i can get you a site that gives you the like 5-10 steps you need to do.... do you have a sec?
[03:45] <Ares> Sure!
[03:45] <fiveiron> there really isnt much to it
[03:45] <MrWoo> and whats the command for shuting down in linux
[03:45] <miguelsr> some one know how to optimizer openoffice?
[03:45] <drbreen> mrwoo: sudo halt
[03:45] <sagarp> MrWoo: oh, i'm pretty sure that card is usable on linux...so you'll probably have no trouble once you get X...or maybe you want to get internet before X :S
[03:45] <drbreen> miguelsr: disable java vm ?
[03:45] <kingwolf> drbreen cp: cannot stat `/home/kingwolf/Desktop/*.tar': No such file or directory
[03:45] <Jimbo_> bruenig: ye, thats what i ran. loads of errors during build. related to wxwidgets.
[03:46] <bruenig> Ricesteam_, i already told you
[03:46] <drbreen> kingwolf: i assume there is no break b/c of the && operator
[03:46] <MrWoo> why would it be sudo halt, why not sudo shutdown, i guess i'll have to learn
[03:46] <bruenig> Jimbo_, did you try cd Mute (subdirectory in the other one) and then running ./configure
[03:46] <bruenig> MUTE*
[03:46] <drbreen> kingwolf: on your desktop are there tar or tar.gz files ?
[03:46] <fiveiron> Ares, one q, is the computer you're on the only pc connected to the internet?
[03:46] <miguelsr> drbreen : i think not but  i use azureus it will have a problem?
[03:46] <Ares> fiveiron: Correct.
[03:46] <DanaG> init 0
[03:46] <fiveiron> ok
[03:46] <Jimbo_> bruenig: ye, that just asks a couple of questions the same as runtobuild script
[03:46] <Ricesteam_> bruenig: told me what?
[03:46] <Ares> Fiveiron: I only have one pc, this is I. =P
[03:47] <Ricesteam_> bruenig: i got disconnected
[03:47] <bruenig> Ricesteam_, right click on the panel, click add to panel, then go to windows list
[03:47] <drbreen> kingwolf: you said tarballs so i assumed .tar
[03:47] <Ricesteam_> Windowlist is not what I'm looking for
[03:47] <drbreen> miguelsr: as far as i know that makes oo.org a bit less resource hungry
[03:47] <bruenig> Ricesteam_, yes it is unless I am confused as to what a taskbar is
[03:47] <Jimbo_> bruenig: i think the problem lies with wxwidgets. I can't actually find the main package to install it. Is it not in the respos?
[03:47] <Ricesteam_> you know your volume control?
[03:48] <fiveiron> Ares, ok, now this is very important:
[03:48] <Ricesteam_> what is that on?
[03:48] <mytruehero> I'm new to Linux, so if this is a facepalm type of question, feel free to tersely point me to the proper help file or web page. I have an external USB drive. I connected it to my computer, turned the computer on, but I can't find it anywhere in the filesystem. How do I access it? Do I need to mount it manually? If so, how?
[03:48] <bruenig> !info libwxgtk2.6-dev
[03:48] <ubotu> Package libwxgtk26-dev does not exist in dapper
[03:48] <Ricesteam_> I am missing that component...ie gaim goes on that "taskbar"
[03:48] <Ares> fiveiron: Yes?
[03:48] <Ricesteam_> kind of lame..i might have to reinstall ubuntu to get it back...:(
[03:49] <DanaG> WTF is ATM networking?
[03:49] <drbreen> miguelsr: don't think azureas will have a problem - but if you are running other java apps, the java vm s loaded regardless of oo.org using it (?), maybe then disbaling vm in oo.org does NOT help ;)
[03:49] <ardchoille> kingwolf: use /home/kingwolf/Desktop/*.tar.bz2 ?
[03:49] <Flannel> Jimbo_: wxwidgets is in universe
[03:49] <bruenig> Jimbo_, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wxwidgets2.6/libwxgtk2.6-dev_2.6.1.2ubuntu2_i386.deb
[03:49] <bruenig> Ricesteam_, in linux that is called the notification area, in windows it is called the tray
[03:49] <bruenig> or in gnome I should say not linux
[03:49] <fiveiron> Ares, when you edit the squid configuration file, there is a directive called "http_port"
[03:50] <Ricesteam_> bruenig: Thank you!
[03:50] <cmatheson> what programs can view video from a webcam?
[03:50] <drbreen> lol, bruenig thinks linux is GNOME. tomorrow i'll run into one who thinks ubuntu is GNOME
[03:50] <Jimbo_> Flannel: i have universe and multiverse setup and there is not one main package that i can see for wxwidgets. only the gtk individual libs. :(
[03:50] <bruenig> drbreen, I corrected myself
[03:50] <fiveiron> Ares, you MUST set an IP address to run this port on, and it MUST be either your local network, or your localhost ip (i.e. - 192.168.x.x, or 127.0.0.1).  the reason being, if no local IP is set, it will run on your external IP address thus making your box an open proxy, and you will get k-lined from freenode servers....
[03:51] <Flannel> Jimbo_: wx-common
[03:51] <fiveiron> so then it would be something like "http_port 127.0.0.1:3128"
[03:51] <drbreen> bruenig: i know, but there are plenty ppl out there who may not graps the concept at all - one my little brothers, for example did think that linux is gnome until i showed off kde
[03:51] <bruenig> I was simply trying to dumb down the answer as the person asking was clearing not the brightest, (e.g.though the tray was called the taskbar)
[03:52] <fiveiron> Ares, beyond that, here is a site for other settings you need:  http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/TransparentProxy-4.html
[03:52] <Ares> fiveiron: What is the conf you're talking about, I'm unable to find mine on the site that documentation lists?
[03:52] <szf> mytruehero: the external drive simply won't "show up" ,eh?
[03:52] <fiveiron> squid.conf
[03:52] <bruenig> drbreen, yeah well too many gui = operating system, but when all other operating systems only have on gui, that is to be expected
[03:52] <bruenig> too many people*
[03:53] <bruenig> wow, that statement was riddled with typos
[03:53] <drbreen> bruenig: that won't save you. when you don't emphatize the differences , you make yourself guilty of spreading dumbness (:
[03:53] <vedder> Hi people :D
[03:53] <harisund> anybody has any experience with Dapper Gnome sessions? Why on earth am I not able to remove update-manager from my Gnome Sessions startup list? Only the 'enable' and 'disable' options are present. How do I delete it?
[03:53] <Jimbo_> Flannel: i manually installed that but i'm still getting loads of wxwidget errors. hmm, i think this source code must be problematic :(
[03:53] <MrWoo> sagarp, long story short, i found a line that had a EE infront of it
[03:53] <bruenig> perhaps, but again I did make the distinction quickly after
[03:53] <sagarp> lol
[03:53] <drbreen> bruenig: one time really some guy asked me what the game is called i play the whole day
[03:53] <fiveiron> Ares, i gotta run... email me at aaron@westwoodbaptist.org if you have any problems with it (or if you accidentally get k-lined from freenode... I've done it before... heh heh)
[03:53] <vedder> How can i get all the dev's files to compile a jde pack?
[03:53] <sagarp> MrWoo: did you fix it
[03:53] <Ares> fiveiron: Heh, ok.
[03:53] <Ares> Thank You.
[03:53] <Ares> By the way.
[03:53] <bruenig> lol
[03:53] <drbreen> bruenig: he is only 15, but the game was called KDE
[03:53] <fiveiron> np
[03:53] <vedder> kde*
[03:53] <MrWoo> sagarp, it said "EE NO Devices detected" then below "Fatal Server error: No Screen Found"
[03:54] <MrWoo> sagarp, o i haven't fixed it yet
[03:54] <MrWoo> sagarp, i have not idea how to go about fixing that
[03:54] <bruenig> at 15, I would have at least asked, how you got windows to look like that
[03:54] <bruenig> not, what game are you playing
[03:54] <sagarp> MrWoo: hmm you probably need to setup the driver or something, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:54] <MrWoo> sagarp, the what
[03:55] <MrWoo> sagarp, i know what drivers are, but how do you set them up
[03:55] <vedder> please help i need to download all the dev to compile ktorrent, but i have problems
[03:55] <bruenig> !info ktorrent
[03:55] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 738 kB, installed size 2964 kB
[03:55] <vedder> kdelibs4 wont download
[03:55] <bruenig> vedder, ktorrent is available in the repos, why not use that and have all of the dependencies solved for you
[03:56] <harisund> anybody has any experience with Dapper Gnome sessions? Why on earth am I not able to remove update-manager from my Gnome Sessions startup list? Only the 'enable' and 'disable' options are present. How do I delete it?
[03:56] <vedder> because is a really old version and is banned in mant sites..i want to use the latest one
[03:56] <sagarp> MrWoo: perhaps someone can correct me because i'm not sure about ATI cards....but on breezy i tihnk the driver is called ati...it should already be installed, but just in case, install xserver-xorg-driver-ati (i'm also not sure if that's right on breezy, just search for it)
[03:56] <MrWoo> allright, i'll try
[03:56] <sagarp> MrWoo: and then sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and find the devices section and change the driver to ati, or whatever it is
[03:56] <vedder> anyway that is not the problem..u want to compile any source if i need it or want it..i can't do that with ubuntu?
[03:57] <MrWoo> so wait
[03:57] <bruenig> vedder, that was indecipherable, you can compile source with ubuntu
[03:57] <MrWoo> sagarp, i'm gonna log in, then type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.cong and look for the ati driver
[03:58] <vedder> what where i can get the dev if i add all the repost (kubuntu kde too) i i cant download the devs?
[03:58] <bruenig> vedder, here you go http://ftp.sayclub.com/pub/X/KDE/stable/3.5.2/kubuntu/pool-dapper/kdelibs/kdelibs4-dev_3.5.2-0ubuntu0_i386.deb
[03:58] <vedder> what i have to do? download all that dev from debian?
[03:58] <sagarp> er.., MrWoo: no...log in...then type sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-ati
[03:58] <forkmantis_> I have a question about virtualization
[03:58] <bruenig> install it with gdebi
[03:59] <bruenig> or if you want sudo dpkg -i  package
[03:59] <vedder> Thanks :D
[03:59] <forkmantis_> I'm trying to get win2k running under ubuntu...
[03:59] <vedder> i hope that now i can download the other ones..
[03:59] <sagarp> MrWoo: then type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and scroll to the DEVICE section, and where it says "Driver" change its value to "ati"
[03:59] <MrWoo> allright, i'll be right back
[03:59] <searayman> need help with a compilign error!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:00] <meathead> i heart cock and ubuntu.
[04:00] <bruenig> vedder, a little tip, go to google and do 'filetype:deb packagename', google will only search for .deb files of the package you want, that is how I found that
[04:00] <bruenig> !language > meathead
[04:00] <forkmantis_> I've tried two separate avenues... under vmplayer and under qemu
[04:00] <dukeofnewyork> hello?
[04:00] <meathead> sorry
[04:00] <forkmantis_> I can get win2k installed in both qemu and vmplayer
[04:00] <petriborg> hey anyone around today that would know anything about the ubuntu libraries and why df and ubuntu in general is freaking out thinking that my drives are full when they are not? (maybe some problem with glibc or something)
[04:00] <searayman> compiling error, need quick help  :-)
[04:00] <bruenig> forkmantis, did you try vmware server, I installed windows with that pretty easily
[04:00] <meathead> I gues I justh heart ubuntu
[04:00] <meathead> even though I really do love the other thing.
[04:01] <forkmantis_> bruenig: was hoping for a free solution
[04:01] <pschulz01> eyequeue: Looking it up..
[04:01] <forkmantis_> bruenig: in qemu, the one app I need to run doesn't run
[04:01] <miguelsr> some one know how to update my amsn?
[04:01] <bruenig> forkmantis_, it is free, you can download it from their website, they give you a serial to use, unless by free you mean open source, which I am not sure
[04:01] <vedder> great tip thanks again :D
[04:01] <forkmantis_> bruenig: in vmplayer, I can't get the resolution above 640x480
[04:01] <searayman> what is qt?
[04:01] <kjm> i find it hard to believe that Ubuntu doesn't install make by default.....
[04:01] <forkmantis_> hmmm....
[04:01] <dukeofnewyork> hey guys, i got a problem
[04:02] <Led_Zeppelin> Hi All, I am getting Error 17 when trying to boot up ubuntu
[04:02] <Led_Zeppelin> any help?
[04:02] <forkmantis_> I did not know vmware server was free.
[04:02] <forkmantis_> I thought only vmplayer was.
[04:02] <mister_roboto> forkmantis_: use vmware server and install the vmware tools (i think they are called that)
[04:02] <searayman> qt ?
[04:02] <harisund> Does anybody know how to disable the splash screen when shutting down? I want my old school shutdown
[04:02] <petriborg> Ledz, just google "grub error 17" and you'll find what you need
[04:02] <petriborg> grub is very well documented on the net
[04:02] <petriborg> :-)
[04:02] <bruenig> forkmantis_, I used this, I installed XP but I am sure it is the same just switch XP for 2k http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209
[04:02] <dukeofnewyork> when i run the ubuntu cd, even in safe graphics mode, the xserver doesn't start. i have an nvidia 5700LE.
[04:02] <searayman> petriborg:  what is qt?
[04:03] <forkmantis_> bruenig: thanks
[04:03] <forkmantis_> mister_roboto: thanks
[04:03] <monkster> does Zen also do virtualization? What is zen exactly?
[04:03] <Led_Zeppelin> can anyone help me?
[04:03] <petriborg> qt is a GUI  library used by KDE
[04:03] <dukeofnewyork> when i run the ubuntu cd, even in safe graphics mode, the xserver doesn't start. i have an nvidia 5700LE. anyone help?
[04:03] <searayman> what dose this mean: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[04:03] <pschulz01> eyequeue: Shipit requested 2006-07-06, approved 2006-07-12, arrived 2006-08-15
[04:03] <bruenig> !nvidia
[04:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:04] <dukeofnewyork> How can i install drivers if i cant even install?
[04:04] <eyequeue> pschulz01, cool
[04:04] <bruenig> dukeofnewyork, install with the alternate cd
[04:04] <searayman> bruenig:  can i ask u a compiling question?
[04:04] <petriborg> Led_Zeppelin - do what i said, google "grub error 17" it means can't mount your partition
[04:04] <Led_Zeppelin> petriborg, no real good matches
[04:04] <Led_Zeppelin> I have tried everything now, my grub files look perfect
[04:04] <dukeofnewyork> How do I install Nvidia drivers if I cant even install?
[04:04] <bruenig> searayman, don't compile much, try to go with debs as much as possible but go ahead, ask the entire channel probably helps your odds
[04:04] <petriborg> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=120802
[04:05] <petriborg> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1669.html
[04:05] <petriborg> there are lots of them
[04:05] <petriborg> check your /etc/fstab and make sure its valid
[04:05] <next> bruenig: Wouldn't you also be able to install as a server, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, then fix the driver?
[04:05] <petriborg> make sure you don't have a HD problem
[04:05] <searayman> bruenig:  the entire channel seems to be ignoring my question lol
[04:05] <searayman> bruenig:  but anywho i get this error: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[04:05] <petriborg> (try mounting it manually "mount /dev/hdXX /mnt/foo
[04:06] <dukeofnewyork> So, I install as a server. then install apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[04:06] <Led_Zeppelin> petriborg, I can mount it manually fine
[04:06] <petriborg> +")
[04:06] <bruenig> !qt
[04:06] <ubotu> qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.
[04:06] <Led_Zeppelin> petriborg, with CD, I can mount it perfectly!
[04:06] <bruenig> !info libqt3-mt-dev
[04:06] <ubotu> libqt3-mt-dev: Qt development files (Threaded). In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 48 kB, installed size 160 kB
[04:06] <Led_Zeppelin> petriborg, just can't start up automatically without CD
[04:06] <searayman> bruenig:  thanks will try it
[04:06] <bruenig> install that package
[04:06] <MrWoo> sagarp, sudo apt command not round
[04:06] <petriborg> LZ yeah ok got you
[04:06] <MrWoo> *found
[04:06] <goldenflaw> Hey, I just installed Dapper Drake on my MacBook and the grub loader is stuck at "Starting Grub, please wait.."
[04:06] <siratik000> Has anyone here ever done the perfect setup+ispconfig setup - I have a really simple question(my installation is at 192.168.1.100) and in the installation instructions it says "Please enter the IP address of the ISPConfig web: E.g. 192.168.0.1". Should i enter 192.168.1.100 here instead of 192.168.0.1?
[04:06] <petriborg> LZ what does your /etc/fstab entry look like for the drive
[04:07] <next> duke: I can't vouch for it, but it seems like it might work. Then you wouldn't need to boot the live CD to install it. However, installing as a server will leave you without X or Gnome.
[04:07] <Led_Zeppelin> petriborg, /dev/sda1 = ext3 = /
[04:07] <petriborg> and then check the grub config and make sure it says /dev/sda1
[04:07] <dukeofnewyork> is there a whole package that will install gnome for me?
[04:07] <sagarp_> MrWoo, it's sudo apt-get install etc etc
[04:07] <bruenig> dukeofnewyork, if your problem is that xserver doesn't like your graphics card, you still will have problems, but you could at least install it do that and then work on getting the drivers installed afterwards
[04:07] <sagarp_> MrWoo,  not sudo apt
[04:07] <Led_Zeppelin> petriborg, which file?
[04:07] <next> duke: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop would then install it. Read the article for installing the driver, then start Gnome.
[04:07] <MrWoo> ahhhh
[04:08] <searayman> bruenig:  ok, i got farther
[04:08] <petriborg> i'll see if i can find an exact path for you...
[04:08] <bruenig> dukeofnewyork, the ubuntu-destop installs everything that is on the ubuntu cd, so you can get the server cd, then when you get the command prompt do that
[04:08] <searayman> bruenig:  but whast thsi mean: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[04:08] <searayman> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[04:08] <MrWoo> i put a space between apt and -get
[04:08] <MrWoo> damn it
[04:08] <sagarp_> lol
[04:08] <dukeofnewyork> Thanks guys, i'll give it a try.
[04:08] <next> duke: Yeah, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop puts X, Gnome, etc all on. They're all dependent.
[04:08] <siratik000> Has anyone here ever done the perfect setup+ispconfig setup - I have a really simple question(my installation is at 192.168.1.100) and in the installation instructions it says "Please enter the IP address of the ISPConfig web: E.g. 192.168.0.1". Should i enter 192.168.1.100 here instead of 192.168.0.1?
[04:08] <dukeofnewyork> Big help btw
[04:08] <sagarp_> wait a minute, my name isnt sagarp_!
[04:08] <goldenflaw> I just installed Dapper Drake on my MacBook and the grub loader is stuck at "Starting Grub, please wait.."
[04:08] <next> Good luck. =P
[04:08] <goldenflaw> what should I do?
[04:08] <bruenig> !info kdebase-dev
[04:08] <ubotu> kdebase-dev: development files for the KDE base module. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 76 kB, installed size 476 kB
[04:09] <bruenig> install that, that should resolve a lot of dependencies
[04:09] <siratik000> i'll do the 192.168.1.100
[04:09] <searayman> bruenig:  so whast that mean?
[04:09] <bruenig> searayman, what is the version of ktorrent you are installing?
[04:10] <searayman> bruenig:  k torrent?
[04:10] <searayman> bruenig:  thats not what i am installing
[04:10] <petriborg> LZ - you want to look in /boot/grub/device.map probably for starters
[04:10] <bruenig> searayman, oh, somebody was earlier, I figured since you were doing a bunch of kde stuff it was you
[04:10] <bruenig> what are you instaling
[04:10] <goldenflaw> hello?
[04:10] <searayman> bruenig:  nope sorry
[04:10] <petriborg> LZ - that file maps the /dev/sda drive to grubs internal naming hd0 hd1 etc
[04:11] <bruenig> searayman, what are you installing then, perhaps there is a deb available or maybe it is in the repos
[04:11] <petriborg> LZ - and then you want to look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:11] <searayman> SuperKaramba,
[04:11] <searayman> bruenig:  SuperKaramba
[04:12] <miguelsr> some one know how to update my amsn?
[04:12] <petriborg> LZ - which gives you the def for each of your boot options in grub and will have something like root (hd1,0) for your boot partition
[04:12] <bruenig> !info superkaramba
[04:12] <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 504 kB, installed size 1376 kB
[04:12] <bruenig> it is in the repos, in universe
[04:12] <bruenig> unless you are installing a beta or something newer
[04:12] <GoClick> My GNOME interface seems VERY slow but the machine has a decent 128MB video card a 2.something Ghz proc and 1GB ram
[04:13] <dukeofnewyork> You install video drivers?
[04:13] <next> GoClick: You probably need to install video drivers.
[04:13] <varsendaggr> hey are the repos down??
[04:13] <bruenig> no
[04:13] <dukeofnewyork> Doubt it.
[04:13] <GoClick> Uhmm no but I mean like SERIOUSLY slow like chop chop chop
[04:13] <bruenig> GoClick, sounds like a driver problem to me
[04:13] <dukeofnewyork> Installing drivers would be a good start
[04:13] <goochy> sure?  I can't seem to get the nvidia-glx from the repos right now
[04:13] <GoClick> hrm ok
[04:13] <sproingie> GoClick: is top reporting anything using 99% cpu?
[04:14] <searayman> bruenig:  ur stuff worked, the configure worked
[04:14] <GoClick> nope
[04:14] <bruenig> goochy, I just did an apt-get update and worked great
[04:14] <next> Do the forums work for anyone?
[04:14] <MrWoo> sagarp, "E: cound't find package xserver-xorg-driver.ati"
[04:14] <bruenig> good searayman, I was just shooting in the dark myself, educated shooting in the dark I guess
[04:14] <sproingie> GoClick: could still be drivers then.  once you start doing stuff like video or even fancy web pages, a bad driver is death for performance
[04:14] <next> Maybe it's just my connection flaking.
[04:14] <sagarp> MrWoo, it's xserver-xorg-driver-ati, not driver.ati
[04:14] <GoClick> ok
[04:15] <MrWoo> sagarp, damn....
[04:15] <goldenflaw> I just installed Ubuntu on my MacBook and the grub loader is stuck at "Starting Grub, please wait.." I've tried to reinstall ubuntu a couple of times but it didn't change anything, I've also checked the cd for errors
[04:15] <bruenig> next, the forums are sometimes slow, pretty heavy time right now for sure
[04:15] <sagarp> MrWoo, if you dont have internet --
[04:15] <sagarp> er, never mind :P
[04:15] <Coffeegrinds> hey, has anyone ever set up bamboo
[04:16] <next> bruenig: Ah, alright. I can't access them at all at the moment. I've never even noticed then going slowly, so I was surprised.
[04:16] <st> Howdy!
[04:16] <dukeofnewyork> Whats bamboo?
[04:16] <next> Oh, there it goes finally. I take that back..
[04:16] <Coffeegrinds> or for that matter any sort of colaborative groupware
[04:16] <ardchoille> !info bamboo
[04:16] <ubotu> bamboo: website creation tool with wiki-like features. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.3-2 (dapper), package size 148 kB, installed size 656 kB
[04:16] <st> Has anybody had any success with getting the Microsoft Media Center Remote to work with Dapper?
[04:17] <eitch0000> is security.ubuntu.com down?
[04:17] <Coffeegrinds> dukeofnewyork. kinda like egroupware.
[04:17] <dukeofnewyork> kk. thx
[04:17] <Flawless> there isn't any mirror for security.ubuntu.com, is there?
[04:17] <Flawless> and is it down for anyone else?
[04:17] <bruenig> st, wow, if you could get that working, that would be one hell of a feat
[04:17] <goochy> Flawless: I can't connect currently either
[04:17] <st> that's what I like to hear.
[04:17] <Flawless> ok
[04:17] <eitch0000> Flawless: good question... I'm quite pissed that I can't get my package now =))
[04:17] <next> Flawless: The forums seem down too.
[04:18] <Flawless> eitch0000: me too
[04:18] <next> Or slow to the point of not loading. Either or.
[04:18] <Flawless> next: :(
[04:18] <st> Do y'all know whats keeping it from being supported?
[04:18] <ardchoille> lol, Ok, who pulled the plug on the internet?
[04:18] <Flawless> would anybody happen to have konqueror-nsplugins in their apt cache?
[04:19] <Flawless> I really need that package right now (for i386)
[04:19] <st> I don't, sorry.
[04:19] <Gullstad> Whats a good program to find wireless transmiters?
[04:19] <Flawless> st: ok. thanks though
[04:19] <bruenig> perhaps they are, I reloaded the page I opened earlier to test nexts claim and it isn't loading
[04:19] <dukeofnewyork> Anybody know if World of Warcraft works on Ubuntu?
[04:19] <next> Gullstad: You mean APs?
[04:19] <bruenig> however this loaded pretty fast http://ubuntuforums.org.nyud.net:8090/
[04:19] <next> duke: I know it works with Cedega.
[04:19] <Gullstad> next: APs?
[04:19] <bigfuzzyjesus> duke: i think you can get WoW through wine
[04:19] <st> Duke - I hear it works just fine in Wine
[04:19] <monkster> Sound on this hpdv5000t laptop works, but is not as loud as it should be--card is Intel HDA--modules snd-hda-intel and others are loaded. Is there anything else to do to get the sound louder? Any ideas? In Windows, sound is fine. Any help or clues?
[04:19] <next> Gullstad: Access Points, or wireless routers.
[04:20] <Gullstad> next: mhm
[04:20] <next> Gullstad: www.kismetwireless.net
[04:20] <dukeofnewyork> Thanks guys.
[04:20] <eitch0000> Flawless: which package you need?
[04:20] <dukeofnewyork> !info kismet
[04:20] <ubotu> kismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2005.08.R1-1.2 (dapper), package size 910 kB, installed size 2408 kB
[04:20] <Flawless> eitch0000: konqueror-nsplugins (i386)
[04:20] <next> I'm still fighting to get Guild Wars to run decently in Cedega...let alone Wine.
[04:21] <dukeofnewyork> How much do you pay for Cedega?
[04:21] <cyphase> who here is going to be at Ubucon?
[04:21] <dukeofnewyork> Where is Ubucon at?
[04:21] <st> Gull, if you're just looking to connect to a wifi network, the Networking panel in 'preferences' (i think) will get you setup
[04:21] <cyphase> dukeofnewyork: Google
[04:21] <CalcMaster86>  are there any tools you guys like for limiting the network traffic of certain users?
[04:21] <eitch0000> Flawless: give me a mo, I might jsut have a rep running with that package...
[04:21] <Flawless> eitch0000: cool, thanks
[04:22] <next> duke: I don't pay for it. I installed it to test it out, and it barely works. When I get a new card I'll probably buy it. It's something like $5/month and comes with free updates.
[04:22] <MrWoo> sagarp, xserver-xorg-drvier-ati is already the newest version
[04:22] <CalcMaster86>  for example, users that ssh into computer?
[04:22] <dukeofnewyork> haha..i did google it.
[04:22] <dukeofnewyork> Ubacon didn't bring up nothing
[04:22] <sagarp> MrWoo, ok..good then, did you change the driver to ati in xorg.conf?
[04:22] <dukeofnewyork> next: thanks
[04:22] <cyphase> dukeofnewyork: ubucon. and i meant it's at google's headquarters
[04:22] <MrWoo> sagarp, there wasn't anything for me to change
[04:22] <dukeofnewyork> oh lol...i wont be there then
[04:23] <sagarp> MrWoo, it already said ati in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:23] <bruenig> Gubuntu is back!, remember that bs awhile back
[04:23] <OPP> whats gubuntu
[04:23] <MrWoo> i typed sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.cong, and nothing was there for me to select
[04:23] <next> Gullstad: If you want something simpler, I suggest Wi-Fi Rader. It's in the repos.
[04:23] <MrWoo> wait is that case-sensitive
[04:23] <MrWoo> *conf
[04:23] <sagarp> MrWoo, yes it is
[04:24] <Awesome-o2000> google linux?
[04:24] <MrWoo> .....i appologize
[04:24] <bruenig> http://www.huddledmasses.org/jaykul/gubuntu-linux/
[04:24] <sagarp> MrWoo, you shuold probably learn to use tab-completion and/or the ls command :P
[04:24] <MrWoo> what is that
[04:24] <sagarp> so you dont have to keep restarting
[04:24] <harisund> Please, does anybody at all knows how to stop the 'update-manager' from loading on bootup? The sessions properties only allows me to disable it (which doesn't work across session), not completely remove it.
[04:24] <MrWoo> sagarp, how do i use that
[04:25] <sagarp> MrWoo, when you're typing commands, you can hit TAB part of the way through, and the command or filename will be completed for you, or a list of possible completions will be shown
[04:25] <Dr_Fate> harisund, uninstall it
[04:25] <MrWoo> i c
[04:25] <MrWoo> and whats the ls command
[04:25] <sagarp> MrWoo, and the ls command just lists the conents of a directory...so if yuo type ls /etc/X11, it will list allt he files, in cluding xorg.conf
[04:25] <Dr_Fate> list
[04:25] <st> ls = dir for MS. Dos
[04:25] <MrWoo> ok
[04:25] <verbose> MrWoo: the first thing you need to learn is man
[04:25] <verbose> man ls
[04:25] <rockzman> Can anyone hnelp me?
[04:25] <MrWoo> what?
[04:25] <MrWoo> man ls?
[04:25] <bruenig> i never used man, always command --help
[04:25] <kjm> can someone send me the sources.list that is default with ubuntu Dapper?  I am trying to fix the damage of automatix
[04:25] <st> rock - what do you need?
[04:25] <Dr_Fate> I remember DOS
[04:26] <rockzman> st freeglut  ERROR:  Function <glutBitmapCharacter> called without first calling 'glutInit'.
[04:26] <bruenig> !sources
[04:26] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:26] <rockzman> what does it means
[04:26] <bruenig> !easysource
[04:26] <harisund> Dr_Fate you serious? I am afraid of uninstalling anything in UBuntu for fear of it breaking something big time. Last time I uninstalled Firefox and had to practically reinstall my entire machine.
[04:26] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:26] <kjm> ty
[04:26] <Dr_Fate> kjm google one up
[04:26] <Flawless> eitch0000: security is back up!
[04:26] <sagarp> MrWoo, yeah the man command shows you documentation
[04:26] <st> I have no idea.
[04:26] <sagarp> oh
[04:26] <sagarp> lol
[04:26] <rockzman> Great st
[04:26] <rockzman> freeglut  ERROR:  Function <glutBitmapCharacter> called without first calling 'glutInit'.
[04:26] <kjm> Dr_Fate : google just gave me a tonne of customized ones that I don't trust.
[04:26] <Awesome-o2000> its a strange world where a search engine has its own distro
[04:26] <rockzman> Does anyone know what does that means?
[04:26] <bruenig> !easysource > kjm
[04:27] <monkster> sagarp, i came in late... what is MrWoo trying to do?
[04:27] <harisund> Seriously. Is Ubuntu's Gnome documentation that bad?
[04:27] <kjm> I regret being lazy when I set this box up and used Automatix.....things seem to work.......but I have a shaky suspiscion that things will break soon.
[04:27] <eitch0000> Flawless: cool... gotta try it... but otherwise here's a rep: deb http://apt.gsi-services.ch/dapper/ dapper main
[04:27] <sagarp> monkster, his X wont start because it cant find any "suitable screens" or something, and he's using some ATI card
[04:27] <monkster> oh
[04:27] <bruenig> kjm, automatix's sources are fine
[04:27] <posthuman> Does anyone know of a program that can convert FLV files to AVI or MPG?
[04:27] <Flawless> eitch0000: ok, thx
[04:27] <st> rock - when are you getting that error?
[04:28] <bruenig> they wont install anything you don't want to install anyways, look at the packages when it updates and determine if you want
[04:28] <sagarp> monkster, but he's new to linux and has no internet in ubuntu so every time he makes a mistake he has to restart to get back on #ubuntu :P
[04:28] <monkster> ouch
[04:28] <RichW> Anyone in here know anything bout icecast video streaming?
[04:28] <harisund> Ok if nobody knows that, then this one: how do I start a gnome-sessoin without having to start gdm first? I tried to do startx and Gnome gave me plenty of errors. Iam forced to run from gdm only.
[04:28] <bruenig> if you absolutely must have the original, there you go
[04:28] <kjm> bruenig : are they?  Cause, that list is huge.  I figure it won't hurt to go back to original list
[04:28] <kethinov> can someone direct me to a list of ubuntu apt mirrors?
[04:28] <kjm> Thanks, I'd just like to compare.
[04:29] <bruenig> change the name to sources.list, not from sources.list.old
[04:29] <Cunali> Hello, my sound doesn't seem to work on ubuntu. It was working just a few minutes ago, but after a restart it doesn't seem to work any more. Any help please?
[04:29] <eitch0000> Flawless: it's my own rep for emergencies like these, but it might not always be up to date, feel free to use it though =))
[04:29] <bruenig> kjm, always backup
[04:29] <Flawless> eitch0000: ah - thx :)
[04:29] <kjm> I know, i know.  Got lazy with this install.
[04:30] <harisund> Does anybody here customize their Gnome?
[04:31] <bruenig> kjm, generally automatix backs stuff up if you do ls /etc/apt, i bet there will be quite a few sources.list backups
[04:31] <bruenig> harisund, I customized it, not that much, just different theme, background, and gdm
[04:31] <dukeofnewyork> harisund: yes, i added the Novell SLED menuy
[04:31] <bruenig> or I suppose login window interface, not gdm
[04:31] <bruenig> the SLED window looks terrible IMO
[04:32] <harisund> bruenig hmmm..  Iwant to remove update-manager and a ton of nonsense from my startup, but I am not able to. If I go to my sessions and see my startup tab, I don't even get the choice of removing update-manager. It is either disable or enable (and disable doesn't work across sessions)
[04:32] <dukeofnewyork> It's nothing cool, but i like it.
[04:32] <MrWoo> sagarp, the driver value was already set to ati
[04:32] <kjm> bruenig : Yup, it seems you're right.  I just got nervous.  Was looking through the source of automatix and saw a lot of apt --force calls......
[04:33] <cycom> I have an odd problem.  My logitech keyboard that worked on previous versions of ubuntu suddenly has become problematic.  The volume down key now seems to produce the keycode for leftclick...  very strange.
[04:33] <robert_> blah; I can't get gbsplay to work- it wants OSS
[04:33] <cycom> Several keys seem to be doing this.
[04:33] <bruenig> harisund, a lot of work but, all of the startup scripts are at /etc/init.d, you may be able to find whichever one starts update manager and delete it or move it or change it or whatever
[04:34] <harisund> bruenig that's the problem. update-manager is not a service, s you won't find it in /etc/init.d. It starts only with Gnome. That's what really annoys me. If it was a /etc/init.d/ script, it would have started merely when I boot my system, which is not the case really. ....
[04:34] <bruenig> oh
[04:35] <rafael_> hi
[04:35] <rafael_> brazil?
[04:35] <harisund> bruenig when my system starts, everything is perfect, I have only those processes that running that I want. When I start Gnome it starts a boatload of crap that I want.
[04:35] <penguinsuckers> is the cupsd that ubuntu has broken?
[04:35] <PurpleTen> ok, i was just tryin to add a new user to samba, using this cmd "sudo smbpasswd -a username"
[04:36] <PurpleTen> but i get an error
[04:36] <bruenig> harisund, it may be one of those unfortunate times where the answer is "if you want that kind of configurability, you need KDE", maybe not I don't know but I am not sure where the gnome start up stuff happens
[04:36] <PurpleTen> "something like "does this user exist in the unix password database"
[04:37] <harisund> bruenig I am afraid you might actually be right there :)
[04:37] <themdg> arrg.  I'm having trouble mounting a samba mount from one server (debian) to a kubuntu box on the network.
[04:37] <themdg> gives me wrong fs type, bad options, bad superblock etc.  Anyone have mounting skills?
[04:37] <themdg> I'll trade for bowstaff skill.s
[04:38] <bruenig> hmmm, well since he told a joke I guess I must assist
[04:38] <elkbuntu> harisund, tried seeing what's in 'system > preferences > sessions' ?
[04:38] <bruenig> he said he had
[04:38] <bruenig> although now that I am looking at it, there is a startup program called update-notifier, that looks pretty conspicuous
[04:39] <harisund> elkbuntu: Yes I did. First, I only have the choice of clicking on 'enable' or 'disable'. I just can't click 'remove'. Second, there are just 3 items listed in there while my ps axjf listing gives me a ton of nonsense I don't want running
[04:39] <gary[ubuntu] > !java
[04:39] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:39] <harisund> elkbuntu I don't want something called nautilus-cd-burner running. I don't have a CD burner. I don
[04:39] <bruenig> harisund, you don't have the startup program called update-notifier, I do, seems to be the thing
[04:39] <harisund> elkbuntu I also don't want Nautilus running. I know nautilus is only showing my desktop, but I prefer not to have it running, since I odn't have use for a desktop
[04:40] <harisund> bruenig I also do?
[04:40] <bruenig> delete it
[04:40] <bruenig> ah, it wont let you
[04:40] <Coffeegrinds> has anyone ever attempted installing bamboo/ the wiki'ish software not the shoot
[04:40] <harisund> bruenig When I click on it, the delete optoin is greyed out.
[04:40] <bruenig> well disable
[04:40] <sagarp> MrWoo, still there?
[04:40] <harisund> disable doesn't work across sessions.
[04:40] <bruenig> sure it does
[04:40] <MrWoo> sagarp, the driver value was already set to ati
[04:41] <MrWoo> it even detected my monitor type, an hp mx75
[04:41] <bruenig> or at least it has for me, not with update-notifier, but with some of my personal startup stuff
[04:41] <harisund> bruenig it disables it now, and then the program nicely runs itself. I want to know in which file these programs are listed and delete the entry from the file directory. I feel comfortable only when I do sometihng over the command line, modifying config files. GUI scares me.
[04:41] <shawnr_> can anyone help me out... load time between GDM and Gnome seems to get slower and slower every day. Is there anything I can tweak to speed it up?
[04:41] <mytruehero> I'm looking for a simple program to make daily, weekly, and monthly backups of my home directory to an external harddrive. Any suggestions?
[04:41] <sagarp> MrWoo, hmm, i dont know much about using ati cards on linux (always used nvidia) but maybe there's somehting wrong with it...try using the vesa driver instead...it's a generic driver that should work properly
[04:41] <harisund> bruenig I am afraid I will eventually end up like shawnr_ here, complaining the same thing.
[04:42] <MrWoo> how do i do that
[04:42] <sagarp> MrWoo, change ati to vesa, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:42] <Brokenstein> anybody here know how to get gamepad working in liquid war? my pads work fine in other apps...
[04:42] <MrWoo> allright
[04:43] <themdg> this, from the syslog on my mount issue:  smbfs: mount_data version 1684370019 is not supported
[04:43] <harisund>  bruenig oh well looks like I will have to give KDE a try too. Else it is xfce
[04:44] <bruenig> harisund, yeah I feel the same generally, you could make a symbolic link for update-notifier and have it go to somewhere else
[04:44] <bruenig> I once found the directory that had the startup scripts, I know it is in one of those hidden directories in the home folder, I am looking now but I forget which
[04:45] <harisund> bruenig hmm..ok ..if you find out, please leave me a message. I have to go now. Thanks a real ton for atleast chatting with me :) Nobody here seems to even bother about Gnome's customization.
[04:45] <bcron> hey, I have an obvious question... If you have updated your Ubuntu you don't need the new 6.06.1 release right?
[04:46] <shawnr_> bcron, right
[04:46] <bcron> shawnr_, thanks
[04:46] <bcron> I checked distrowatch after a few days and I felt left out
[04:46] <PurpleTen> im still lost with this smaba, can someone help me.. i cant add user
[04:46] <shawnr_> bcron, the new 6.06.1 release is just dapper repackaged with all the same updates you've been installing. so people who install for the first time don't have to download so many update
[04:47] <bcron> PurpleTen, what is the problem?
[04:47] <shawnr_> mytruehero, what did you say you were looking for?
[04:47] <PurpleTen> well ive shared a folder which i can see from my xp computer
[04:48] <PurpleTen> but i cant access it
[04:48] <PurpleTen> it asks for a pass n username
[04:48] <bcron> PurpleTen,  OK, Ive run into this before.  You have to create a samba user and give him a password
[04:48] <PurpleTen> it says i need to add a user in samba, but i cant seem to do that
[04:49] <PurpleTen> how do you do that
[04:49] <bcron> Im gonna try and find the instructions... one sec
[04:49] <PurpleTen> i did the "sudo smbpasswd -a username"
[04:49] <z0rz> Evolution doesn't ask me for a password and just gives an error when trying to acess my imap4 server .. anyone know why?
[04:49] <PurpleTen> that gave me some error sayin cant find user in unix password database
[04:51] <meathead> i heart pee pee and ubuntu.
[04:51] <bcron> PurpleTen, did you use a username that was setup in Ubuntu already or a new name?
[04:51] <PurpleTen> a new one
[04:52] <PurpleTen> do i use the username that i made when installin ubuntu?
[04:52] <dukeofnewyork> meathead: apt-get install you're_fkin_sick-1.243
[04:52] <codecaine> anybody know a better x view then using vnc?
[04:52] <bcron> PurpleTen, It doesn't have to be the one you used during install but it should be one you have on Ubuntu
[04:52] <TheGame> how do i get my soundback
[04:53] <dukeofnewyork> automatix
[04:53] <PurpleTen> ohk
[04:53] <jarrod06> hi
[04:53] <PurpleTen> ill try that
[04:53] <TheGame> if my sound goes out
[04:53] <TheGame> how do i get it back
[04:53] <varsendaggr> !automatix
[04:53] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[04:53] <bcron> PurpleTen, This is the link that I followed and it worked like a charm for me... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605&highlight=login+samba+xp
[04:53] <z0rz> Why does firefox have 100% usage when I click and hold anywhere in the browser?
[04:53] <z0rz> Is there a way to fix this?
[04:53] <shawnr_> TheGame, close apps using sound.. including firefox. in terminal run "killall esd"  then try again
[04:54] <TheGame> let me try it
[04:54] <shawnr_> TheGame, turn off esd sound mixing in prefs>sounds
[04:54] <kev900> hey everyone, whats the best way to watch an mpg video in ubuntu?
[04:54] <TheGame> didnt work
[04:54] <kev900> I currently don't have a decoder installed
[04:54] <alus> how do I list the files associated with a given package?
[04:55] <TheGame> still no sound
[04:55] <varsendaggr> kev900, mplayer
[04:55] <gary[ubuntu] > !esd
[04:55] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[04:55] <TheGame> brb
[04:55] <gary[ubuntu] > !alsa
[04:55] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[04:55] <TheGame> im going to restart gnome
[04:55] <MrWoo> sagarp, HEY THAT WORKED!
[04:55] <PurpleTen> sick! thx bcron
[04:55] <kev900> varsendaggr, when I open it in mplayer it says I do not have a decoder installed
[04:55] <PurpleTen> thanks heaps man
[04:55] <shawnr_> kevor, i use xvidcap
[04:56] <varsendaggr> apt-cache search mplayer adn install everyhting that looks like codecx
[04:56] <shawnr_> kev900, i use xvidcap
[04:56] <MrWoo> sagarp, now if i could just get it to recognize my wireless adapter i'd be set
[04:56] <rockzman> Does anyone knows if it is possible to run a Directx Game using Wine?
[04:56] <MrWoo> !wine
[04:56] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:56] <bimberi> alus: dpkg -L package
[04:57] <shawnr_> kev900, http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/   make sure you download the latest tar and compile.
[04:57] <bcron> PurpleTen, no problem
[04:57] <kev900> great thanks for the advice, I'll give it a try
[04:57] <TheGame> sound still doesnt work even after restarting gnome
[04:58] <shawnr_> TheGame, what are you running that isn't working exactly
[04:58] <TheGame> no sound works
[04:58] <sagarp> MrWoo, there's still a problem, you want X to use the correct ATI driver, so that you can use it to the fullest (full hw acceleration)...using vesa is a temporary fix
[04:58] <TheGame> gaim doesnt work
[04:58] <TheGame> music doesnt work
[04:58] <TheGame> login logout doesnt work
[04:58] <y0ss1_77> can someone tell me how to mount the cd rom drive?
[04:58] <TheGame> no sound whatsoever
[04:58] <lmosher> Is my sound device on /dev/dsp? how can i tell?
[04:58] <shawnr_> TheGmae , did it work with the live cd?
[04:58] <Cunali> 'm having a sound problem too, though, it seems to be with only flash while inside firefox...all other system sounds and such seem to work, and i've tried two workarounds i've found online but neither seems to work for me :(
[04:58] <TheGame> it was working a few mins ago
[04:59] <TheGame> now theres no sound
[04:59] <z0rz> Why does firefox have 100% usage when I click and hold anywhere in the browser?
[04:59] <y0ss1_77> mount/dev/cd1?
[04:59] <TheGame> i have ubuntu installed to my hd
[04:59] <shawnr_> TheGame, did you restart X or do a full system restart?
[04:59] <lmosher> y0ss1_77, It should mount automatically. Technically the command is "sudo mount /dev/to/your/CDrom /mount/directory
[04:59] <y0ss1_77> or what?
[04:59] <z0rz> CPU Usage that is
[04:59] <TheGame> restarted X
[04:59] <y0ss1_77> it didnt mount automatically
[04:59] <bcron> y0ss1_77, sudo mount /dev/cd1 or whatever it's called
[04:59] <TheGame> should i restart the system
[04:59] <shawnr_> TheGame, why don't you try restarting completely. not usually needed
[04:59] <shawnr_> but give it a shot
[05:00] <y0ss1_77> bcron how do i see what the name of it is
[05:00] <TheGame> whats the cause for this do u thin
[05:00] <lmosher> y0ss1_77, type 'mount /dev/cd' then hit tab for completion options...
[05:00] <y0ss1_77> k
[05:00] <lmosher> y0ss1_77, touble-tap tab, rather, to see the list
[05:00] <shawnr_> TheGame, somthing could be locking up the soundcard, not letting anything else use it
[05:01] <TheGame> ok let me restart
[05:01] <shawnr_> TheGame, are you getting err msg when you try to run somethign that uses sound like mplayer?
[05:01] <lmosher> y0ss1_77, But it really depends on your system unfortunately. For example I have a DVD player and a dvdrw so mine are /dev/dvd and /dev/dvdrw
[05:01] <TheGame> no error
[05:01] <shawnr_> huh
[05:01] <TheGame> sound just doesnt play
[05:01] <TheGame> like it will play the song
[05:01] <TheGame> its just i dont hear anything
[05:01] <y0ss1_77> mount: No medium found
[05:01] <shawnr_> I hate to ask
[05:01] <TheGame> yes its not on mute
[05:01] <shawnr_> Did you check your cables
[05:01] <y0ss1_77> do i need to load it in mod
[05:01] <TheGame> im on a laptop
[05:02] <shawnr_> TheGame, speakers pluged into the headphone jack?
[05:02] <TheGame> nope
[05:02] <TheGame> laptop speakers
[05:02] <TheGame> let me restart
[05:02] <TheGame> brb
[05:02] <shawnr_> hm
[05:02] <shawnr_> k
[05:02] <PurpleTen> !lamp
[05:02] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:02] <lmosher> how do I find out the location of my sound device? is it /dev/dsp? /dev/snd? How do I tell?
[05:03] <oo1> I'm paritioning mu Ubuntu server and I was wondering what setup is best to use.. I've got 1x 250gb disc and 1x 120gb disc
[05:03] <bcron> y0ss1_77, mine is /dev/cdrom0 - Im not sure how to find it if it's not recognized
[05:03] <y0ss1_77> k
[05:03] <lmosher> oo1, That question is highly dependent on who is using the system, how robust you need.. etc. etc. etc. For example I don't give a crap what's on my system, I put all 250gb on / (except swap and boot, heh)
[05:04] <y0ss1_77> idk it says no medium found
[05:04] <oo1> It will be a ftp+ file server at home and a lamp server
[05:04] <y0ss1_77> what does that mean?
[05:05] <TheGame> hmm
[05:05] <EpP-PPC> if i buy a laptop that has a broadcom, will it for sure not work?
[05:05] <TheGame> what causes the sound to do that
[05:05] <bcron> it didn't work... I know Ive found it under /media in other distros
[05:05] <lmosher> oo1, hehe ok so you'll probably want somethin gmore robust than my lump solution.
[05:05] <lmosher> bcron, /media is where it mounts to in the fstab, not the device location
[05:05] <bcron> gotcha
[05:05] <bcron> I am sure I knew that... brainfart
[05:05] <EpP-PPC> are some broadcoms supported?
[05:05] <y0ss1_77> bcron it gives the error no medium found
[05:06] <lmosher> hang on I'm trying to figure out how to check the startup logs for where it puts the optical stuff...
[05:06] <y0ss1_77> what does that mean?
[05:06] <oo1> lmosher: do you have any suggestions on how I can get the most out of this?
[05:06] <lmosher> oo1, Sorry no that's way out of my league. The most I've ever done is make two partitions, one for the OS and one for a misc. downloads directory and a DVD-authorting working directory :P
[05:07] <bcron> y0ss1_77, It means it doesn't see the cdrom, I guess.   You can use the cdrom from a liveCD or other distros or Windows?
[05:07] <oo1> lmosher: thanks anyway :p
[05:07] <rast4> I downloaded something from the repository, and updated my sourcesm the program is BitchX and I found it in the usr/lib dir, but I cna't find an executable. Am I suppose to compile it? If so, there aren't any files that look like it can be compiled
[05:07] <rast4> forgive my typos please
[05:07] <thompa> i cant get evolution to open anymore
[05:07] <siratik000> Need help on ISPConfig (Ubuntu Perfect ISPConfig setup): Getting Internal Server Error with no descriptive messages on my web server, how do I get more detail into why?
[05:07] <EpP-PPC> Im getting a laptop with a turion 64 x2. Pretty sure it has broadcom. will i have to ndiswrapper?
[05:08] <thompa> evolution had a message in outbox and crashed now it wont open
[05:09] <rast4> ok let me ask this then, can I download packages that are for Linux and compile them on Ubuntu?
[05:10] <DBO> rast4, yes
[05:10] <DBO> you can download the source and compile
[05:10] <rast4> what do I do with programs that Synaptic downloads?
[05:10] <rast4> I can't find executables for it
[05:11] <__mikem> DBO, its too quiet in ubuntu-offtopic
[05:11] <rast4> yes the direscories are there
[05:11] <rast4> yes/yet*
[05:11] <rast4> omg
[05:11] <__mikem> nevermind
[05:11] <rast4> directories*
[05:11] <DBO> rast4, what are you looking for specifically?
[05:12] <rast4> I updated everything, and then used Synaptic to get BitchX
[05:12] <lmosher> how do I find out the location of my sound device? is it /dev/dsp? /dev/snd? How do I tell?
[05:12] <rast4> but I can't find the BitchX executable in usr/lic
[05:12] <rast4> lib*
[05:12] <rast4> so I can't launch it
[05:12] <ootz0rz> hi, does anyone know how i can change my default audio device? i have two audio controllers in my computer (onboard and pci card) i wanna use the pci card, but it keeps defaulting to the onboard one
[05:12] <DBO> rast4, just type bitchx in a terminal
[05:12] <siratik000> What group is apache2 on by default, user is www-data. So to get the webserver to properly have access to a file - what is the group if chmod www-data:? somefile?
[05:12] <BeepAU> does anyone know how to change the language in wine? i tried asking in the wine channel, but got no help.
[05:13] <rast4> I'm going to feel foolish if that works
[05:13] <rightcoast> does naultius have the windows equivent of ctrl-shift to select a group?
[05:13] <ootz0rz> i tried to change from preferences -> sound, but it doesnt keep the setting
[05:13] <rast4> here goes nothing
[05:13] <rast4> hahahah
[05:13] <rast4> thanks DBO
[05:13] <soheil> hi room
[05:13] <DBO> its cool =)
[05:13] <rast4> I'm learning
[05:13] <rast4> ;)
[05:13] <bcron> y0ss1_77, I think I found a relevant thread for you... it's debian and not Ubuntu but close enough http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=b9c94bbb0946bd4dd4d32390605a22fd&t=253778
[05:13] <rast4> appreciate it
[05:13] <crimsun> ootz0rz: use asoundconf set-default-card
[05:14] <siratik000> apache2 runs as www-data , but what group does apache2 run at? (Or could someone tell me the group-equivalent of whoami?)?
[05:14] <soheil> I have a duual-boot system, running both ubuntu and window
[05:14] <y0ss1_77> ty
[05:14] <soheil> I'm also a chess player
[05:14] <ootz0rz> crimsun: doing so gives me an "IndexError: list index out of range"...
[05:14] <siratik000> that is incredibly offtopic
[05:14] <rast4> that is scary
[05:14] <rast4> that's like Ubuntu Personals
[05:14] <rightcoast> like say i have a directory with 10 files of size x i want to keep, so i sort by size, can i do something like ctrl-shift to select the rest?
[05:15] <rast4> should toss an a/s/l in there ;)
[05:15] <rightcoast> and delete them
[05:15] <soheil> my chess games run under windows,l but can't run them under ubuntu
[05:15] <kjm> I am also a pedofile who uses Unix, Posix like operating systems.  I also enjoy long walks on the beach, candle lit dinners and sensitive 16 yr. olds.
[05:15] <bcron> I have a problem with printing from XP using samba... and Im a libra who likes long walks in the rain and soft jazz
[05:15] <EpP> do some broadcoms work fine in dapper?
[05:15] <rast4> install Wine perhaps to run Wine under Ubuntu
[05:15] <rast4> err
[05:15] <kjm> soheil : look into the wine project
[05:15] <siratik000> apache2 runs as www-data , but what group does apache2 run at? (Or could someone tell me the group-equivalent of whoami?)? Its not "whoamiwith"!
[05:15] <willzzz> yea broadcom works fine but it's soemtimes the driver freezes
[05:15] <rast4> Install Wine to use your chess program in Ubuntu
[05:16] <kjm> bcron : I like long walks on the beach. . .perhaps when it rains next you'll join me?
[05:16] <willzzz> like randomly sometimes when I boot it doesn't auto connect or sometimes it refuses to connect
[05:16] <EpP> i hear that you have to use ndiswrapper
[05:16] <rast4> hahah
[05:16] <bcron> soheil, I had problems running Chessmaster in wine but if you want to play chess use native programs... Knights is good and XBoard, Eboard etc...
[05:16] <willzzz> i have to enable/disable the interface to get it working again
[05:16] <EpP> willzzz: do u u se ndiswrapper?
[05:16] <dasGewitter> I have an external hdd, yet it keeps saying that it's a read only drive
[05:16] <dasGewitter> any help?
[05:16] <soheil> where is it
[05:16] <willzzz> EpP, i use bcm43xx, the latest native linux drivers for broadcom
[05:16] <bcron> kjm, it's a date [/creeped self out] 
[05:17] <EpP> oh ok
[05:17] <soheil> could u run chess master?
[05:17] <bcron> soheil, nope
[05:17] <ardchoille> Folks, this is an Ubuntu support channel. Please take the off-topic stuff to #ubuntu-offtopic. We don't need you filling the channel with ot stuff.
[05:17] <bcron> soheil, I am sure it works with enough work but there are good alternatives in Linux so it's no big deal
[05:17] <rast4> oops sorry
[05:17] <ardchoille> rast4: Did you just CTCP the entire channel?
[05:18] <rast4> accidentally
[05:18] <dasGewitter> anybody about the hdd?
[05:18] <rast4> my apologies
[05:18] <soheil> alternatives?
[05:18] <bcron> ardchoille, getting something to work in Ubuntu is a support question no?
[05:18] <CheetahMk2> ?
[05:18] <ootz0rz> can anyone else perhaps help? my system seems hell ent on using my onboard sound card rather than my pci sound card. changing the default from preferences -> sound doesn't work neither does doing it from asoundconf set-default-card...
[05:18] <soheil> where can u get tutorials?
[05:18] <rast4> was just trying to get BX to say my version
[05:18] <imbrandon> rast4 ok, dont let it happen again please, this is your only warning
[05:18] <bcron> soheil, Knights is good... use apt-get or synaptic and check it out
[05:18] <rast4> I said sorry, not much else I can say
[05:19] <soheil> where can I find wine?
[05:19] <bcron> soheil, apt-get or synaptic to get wine
[05:20] <xxzx> i set up a pppoesever just now ,when the pppoe client send the configuration request to my pppoe sever,but the server do not respone
[05:20] <siratik000> What is the command to list all the users on a system?
[05:21] <p4> Hello/ How to update Ubuntu from Hoary to Dapper?
[05:21] <drbreen> users
[05:21] <drbreen> siratik000: try 'users'
[05:21] <siratik000> I'm trying to figure out what group apache2 is running on, and I know its www-data , but what is the group?
[05:21] <HellDragon> heh
[05:21] <DrkLrd> p4, go to wiki
[05:21] <drbreen> !upgrade
[05:21] <siratik000> so just "groups"
[05:21] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[05:21] <DShepherd> drbreen: that's logged in users..
[05:21] <DrkLrd> guys am having problems with video players
[05:21] <DrkLrd> i installed mplayer and codecs
[05:22] <drbreen> DSheperd, siratik000: then look at /etc/passwd , wtf.
[05:22] <DrkLrd> when i play video for the first time it plays fine but the second time the colours are all washed
[05:22] <DShepherd> siratik000: you mean users logged in now? or users that have ever logged onto the system?
[05:22] <DrkLrd> in mplayer and totem both
[05:22] <rast4_> drklrd: try VLC
[05:22] <DrkLrd> rast4_, they are washed in both totem and mplayer mate
[05:22] <siratik000> DSheperd: I mean groups that are available to assign ownership from/to
[05:22] <DrkLrd> first movies i run is fone
[05:22] <DrkLrd> but then next is crap
[05:22] <rast4_> VLC has it's own codecs though
[05:22] <rast4_> wouldn't that matter?
[05:22] <DrkLrd> dunno
[05:22] <BrMiHi08> Is there a way to do a smaller version of the ubuntu install?
[05:23] <rast4_> I sort of had the same proglem
[05:23] <rast4_> problem*
[05:23] <rast4_> try it, it can't hurt
[05:23] <siratik000> BrMiHi08: server
[05:23] <DrkLrd> yeah lemme see
[05:23] <rast4_> I prefer that program on my windows boxes and ubuntu
[05:23] <BrMiHi08> siratik000 all I need to do is get it on a 4.3gig hard drive
[05:23] <scrappy_> BrMiHi08: i usually do a server install then apt-get xserver-xorg and xinitrc and such
[05:23] <bimberi> siratik000: type 'groups www-data' will tell you what groups that user is in (usually just a group with the same name - www-data)
[05:24] <DrkLrd> rast4_, tried fast ubuntu script? :)
[05:24] <bimberi> siratik000: the standard install will fit on 4.3G
[05:24] <soheil> hey. it says wine is a windows emulatur
[05:24] <rast4_> DrkLrd: I haven't
[05:24] <siratik000> bimberi: You get props, i've asked that question in 6 rooms and never got a str8 response - thanks everyone
[05:24] <soheil> u may run windows programs using it
[05:24] <rast4_> I'm relatively new to Ubuntu, but I am learning day vy day ;)
[05:24] <rast4_> by*
[05:24] <drbreen> soheil: winje isn't. it is an api-layer-hack or something like that
[05:24] <DrkLrd> rast4_, ah!
[05:24] <BrMiHi08> the install keeps locking up, but i can still move my mouse, can't click on anything though
[05:24] <rast4_> but I had to get the Video and Audio down before anything
[05:25] <rast4_> all I do is watch movies and listen to music
[05:25] <bimberi> siratik000: np (and that 2nd response wasn't actually for you sorry ;) )
[05:25] <rast4_> so that was #1 in my book of things to figure out
[05:25] <siratik000> arite
[05:25] <DrkLrd> lol
[05:25] <soheil> Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)
[05:25] <soheil> While Wine is usually thought of as a Microsoft Windows emulator, the Wine
[05:25] <soheil> developers would prefer that users thought of Wine as a Windows compatibility
[05:25] <soheil> layer for Linux. Wine does not require MS Windows, but it can use native system
[05:25] <soheil> dll files in place of its own if they are available.
[05:25] <soheil> This package includes a program loader, which allows unmodified Windows
[05:25] <soheil> binaries to run under compatible hardware.  This package also includes the
[05:25] <soheil> library that implements the Wine project's free version of the Windows API,
[05:25] <soheil> allowing successful running
[05:25] <ardchoille> !paste
[05:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:25] <DrkLrd> soheil, wtf
[05:25] <soheil> of programs ported directly from Windows.
[05:25] <siratik000> woa
[05:25] <bcron> soheil, wine runs windows programs but not all windows programs and not very easily
[05:25] <leboff> o
[05:25] <siratik000> no pasting into the thing
[05:26] <leboff> i'm having trouble accessing an old linux drive from a new linux box... for some reason the filesystem wont mount.. anyone here that can help out?
[05:26] <drbreen> bcron: not very easily ? "apt-get install wine" is uneasy
[05:26] <rast4_> anyone that wants to help with networking my windows network to the ubuntu?
[05:26] <rast4_> that's where I'm stuck at so far
[05:26] <drbreen> leboff: error message anyone ?
[05:26] <rast4_> I've been reading but I can't get it to work
[05:26] <bcron> soheil, they actually sell more robust versions of wine... some take more libs than others and a lot of tweaking...
[05:27] <bcron> drbreen, I had no problem installing wine, getting everything working in wine was another thing
[05:27] <scrappy_> soheil: if youre not 3d gaming id just use vmware or qemu to run xp..
[05:27] <crashtest> Anybody know how i'd check to see what the maximum filesize is for a logical volume?
[05:27] <bcron> drbreen, what is uneasy about apt-get for wine?
[05:28] <drbreen> bcron: did you expect everything to work ? i did not but was surprised: i can only name one program i may need which did not run in wine or had a better (red: free) alternative: cisco packet tracer
[05:28] <leboff> mount: /dev/hdc5 already mounted or /mnt/hde busy
[05:28] <sanddrag> I have a problem.  I am on thje live CD and I cannot change tghe resolution to anything other than 640x480.  I want to install to HD but I cannot see the buttons on the bottom of the install window and I cannot resize it smaller.
[05:28] <sanddrag> what do I do?
[05:28] <drbreen> bcron: </sarcasm style="don't:try-this@home">
[05:29] <[Ex0r] > ping me
[05:29] <[Ex0r] > please*
[05:29] <drbreen> sanddrag: hold down alt, click on a window and draw it around ;)
[05:29] <bcron> drbreen, I either understand nothing you have said and you me or we are in violent agreement
[05:29] <leboff> drbreen, its not mounted.. and i dont know what would make /mnt/hde busy
[05:29] <drbreen> leboff: did ya try to mount manually ?
[05:30] <leboff> drbreen thats what i'm doing.. i got the one partition to mount in the disk manager.. but thats just the boot partition so all i ahve is the grub and things..
[05:30] <drbreen> bcron: we agree violently, wine isn't uneasy to install, but sometimes a PITA for those who want to do serious work
[05:31] <leboff> and now using 'sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/hdc5 /mnt/hde' i get that message
[05:31] <drbreen> leboff: did you try "man mount" in the console ?
[05:31] <drbreen> or sorry
[05:31] <drbreen> leboff: what is the text of the message ?
[05:31] <sanddrag> hey thanks drbreen.  holding alt works. However, is there a reason I cannot pick any other resolution.  Is it not recognizing my graphics card or something?
[05:31] <magneticmos> re
[05:31] <drbreen> leboff: busy stuff ?
[05:32] <leboff> mount: /dev/hdc5 already mounted or /mnt/hde busy
[05:32] <drbreen> leboff: open a terminal, type 'mount' then pastebin it
[05:32] <bcron> drbreen, yeah we agree... all of my experience before ubuntu was slackware so everything seems easier but less fulfilling now
[05:32] <Jbirk> Hello, I have a question
[05:32] <drbreen> bcron: hey, i started with slackware too, then went off to ubuntu ;)
[05:32] <ardchoille> leboff: type mount and see if /dev/hdc5 is mounted or see if there is any device mounted to /mnt/hde
[05:32] <bcron> Jbirk, shoot
[05:32] <sanddrag> so does anyone know why I cannot change the resolution to anything other than 640x480?
[05:32] <rast4_> what's the command to switch in between channel windows in BitchX?
[05:33] <Jbirk> I would like to get a Trash Can and a Computer Icon on my GNOME desktop
[05:33] <SEJeff> bcron: I played with gentoo for the longest time but found I like getting work done versus tweaking everything
[05:33] <soheil> I guess I ran out of H.D.D
[05:33] <meathead> i heart pee pee and ubuntu.
[05:33] <soheil> my ubuntu ran out of space?!
[05:33] <meathead> I just wanted everyone to know.
[05:33] <ardchoille> Jbirk: Open gconf-editor, go to apps/nautilus/desktop and check the items you want on your desktop
[05:33] <Jbirk> I recently installed ubuntu
[05:33] <soheil> :-?
[05:33] <SEJeff> Jbirk: gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/preferences
[05:33] <drbreen> jbirk: open the gconf-editor and look under "desktop" or stuff - there is a switch to configure that
[05:33] <bimberi> Jbirk: run 'gconf-editor' and navigate to /apps/nautilus/desktop
[05:33] <bcron> SEJeff, yeah!  I tried gentoo for a week... I love slackware but I figured I'd try and learn more networking stuff and less getting my mouse to scroll
[05:33] <leboff> drbreen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20625
[05:33] <eigenlambda> soheil: is that what the system monitor is telling youL
[05:34] <[Ex0r] > i think I am lagging.. bad
[05:34] <SEJeff> Jbirk: *ahem* I mean /apps/nautilus/desktop. There you can just check computer_icon_visible, and trash_icon_visible
[05:34] <next> sanddrag: X didn't detect a higher resolution. You need to close X and get to a terminal. (ctrl-alt-F2 I think) Then type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg After that, when you get to the section on resolutions, find your resolution and hit space bar, then enter and continue with the config.
[05:35] <magneticmos> ANYONE RUNNING MYTHTV ON UBUNTU HERE?
[05:35] <Jbirk> how do I open gconf-editor?
[05:35] <[Ex0r] > magneticmos- #mythtv-users :)
[05:35] <SEJeff> Jbirk: ALT F2 and type it
[05:35] <[Ex0r] > very helpful bunch of people
[05:35] <ardchoille> Jbirk: ALT+F2 and type in  gconf-editor
[05:35] <eigenlambda> !caps
[05:35] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:36] <ardchoille> eigenlambda: Sorry, it's a habit to use caps in alt+f2 things
[05:36] <eigenlambda> lol not you
[05:36] <Jbirk> Wiow
[05:36] <Jbirk> Wow
[05:36] <Jbirk> This is almost like regedit
[05:36] <SEJeff> Jbirk: fix it?
[05:36] <eigenlambda> of course you use caps to type key names
[05:36] <scrappy_> Jbirk: dont ever say that again
[05:36] <leboff> drbreen: can you think of anything
[05:36] <SEJeff> Jbirk: but it tells you what the keys do most of the time and you can script it easily using the gconftool-2 command. regedit isn't near as easy to script
[05:36] <ardchoille> eigenlambda: oh, ok, I scrolled up and saw it.. thought you meant me.
[05:36] <eigenlambda> lol gconftool is not regedit
[05:37] <eigenlambda> no way
[05:37] <rast4> test
[05:37] <ardchoille> scrappy_: lol
[05:37] <eigenlambda> gconf is much more sophisticated, powerful, and damage-resistant than a hacked-up binary .ini
[05:38] <PurpleTen> SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('random');
[05:38] <PurpleTen> is this right?
[05:38] <Jbirk> Thanks a ton
[05:38] <SEJeff> eigenlambda: I wrote the script on this blog post:  http://www.dylanknightrogers.com/2006/07/17/faster-dappersh/ and yes, I know gconftool-2. To be specific, gconf is just an xml database of settings.
[05:38] <drbreen> leboff: does not looks suspicious
[05:38] <Jbirk> So much better than my ln -s to make a trash icon
[05:38] <drbreen> leboff: is /mnet/hde symlinked somewhere ?
[05:39] <leboff> shouldnt be.. i made it about 10 minutes ago
[05:39] <ardchoille> PurpleTen: It's not a good idea to enable the root account.
[05:39] <PurpleTen> the root?
[05:39] <PurpleTen> why not
[05:39] <PurpleTen> its for mysql
[05:39] <ardchoille> PurpleTen: oops, sorry
[05:39] <PurpleTen> ?
[05:39] <ardchoille> PurpleTen: ignore me.. I've had way too much caffeine
[05:39] <PurpleTen> what do you mean ardchoille?
[05:40] <PurpleTen> lolk
[05:40] <GoDawgs> nalioth, hello there friend :)
[05:40] <Jbirk> I would like to thank you guys for liberating me.  Ubuntu is the only distro that ever worked right after burning the ISO
[05:40] <rellim> what replaced hotplug?
[05:40] <rellim> i just realized that hotplug isn't in the repos
[05:40] <nalioth> GoDawgs: howdy
[05:40] <Jbirk> Serriously, it detected my Laptop's 1920 x 1200 and my NIC, and my Wireless Card, and sound device
[05:40] <rellim> what replaced hotplug?
[05:40] <rellim> anyone??
[05:40] <SEJeff> Jbirk: Glad to help even though ardchoille beat me to the answer you needed
[05:41] <ardchoille> Jbirk: This is the best channel on freenode, IMHO. Also, visit http://ubuntuforums.org  that's the best forums :)
[05:41] <GoDawgs> nalioth, how goes it dude?
[05:41] <bcron> Jbirk, and saved you countless hours of "learning"
[05:41] <nalioth> GoDawgs: come on into #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:41] <tuxvix> hello
[05:41] <tuxvix> does any one know what other command I can use to download remote files from shell
[05:41] <SEJeff> rellim: because hotplug was integrated into HAL and the kernel. hotplug itsself has been deprecated for awhile
[05:41] <tuxvix> other then wget
[05:41] <Jbirk> I checked out the forums
[05:42] <Jbirk> google sent me there
[05:42] <DrkLrd> rast4_, nah vlc has same prob
[05:42] <ardchoille> Jbirk: Good to see you're using google :)
[05:42] <SEJeff> tuxvix: wget or curl for download only. w3m for a console www browser
[05:42] <tuxvix> =) thx, let me try ...
[05:43] <SEJeff> night guys
[05:43] <ardchoille> g'nite SEJeff
[05:43] <meathead> unless you are sshing
[05:43] <meathead> there are different commands for sshing
[05:43] <tuxvix> I am using shell tru putty
[05:43] <khoda`> how do i get videos to work on websites (youtube, google)
[05:43] <meathead> figured
[05:44] <SEJeff> tuxvix: from the putty side, download pscp.exe. rename it to scp.exe and copy it into C:\windows\system. Now you could do things like scp username@remotehostname:/path/to/file/you/want .
[05:44] <meathead> tuxvix, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_copy_files.2Ffolders_from_remote_Ubuntu_machine_into_local_machine_.28scp.29
[05:44] <soheil> Ican't execute hda1 nor hda2
[05:44] <tuxvix> =) thank you
[05:44] <Luke> is there a way to change your computers host name?
[05:45] <nalioth> Luke: open a terminal and type 'man hostname'   be very careful you know what you are doing
[05:45] <khoda`> how do i get videos to work on websites (youtube, google)
[05:45] <meathead> Luke: use "hostname"
[05:45] <Luke> nalioth: already did that - it just changed back to the old one
[05:45] <SEJeff> !flash
[05:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:45] <soheil> Ican't execute hda1 nor hda2
[05:45] <scrappy_> khoda`: you want flash i think its sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:45] <soheil> I can't execute hda1 nor hda2
[05:45] <soheil> why?
[05:46] <soheil> it says I don't have privillages
[05:46] <SEJeff> soheil: because they aren't executables, they are block devices
[05:46] <khoda`> scrappy_: couldnt find the package
[05:46] <eigenlambda> why does faster-dapper think cfq is the right scheduler?
[05:46] <SEJeff> khoda`: enable multiverse + universe and then try again
[05:46] <soheil> I can't see their contents, I mean
[05:46] <khoda`> SEJeff: how?
[05:47] <bcron> whoopsie
[05:47] <scrappy_> khoda`: the restricted formats would i think have instructions for enabling the repos
[05:47] <SEJeff> eigenlambda: Easy... upstream kernel.org adopted it for the latest kernel. Also, so did the Ubuntu devs. Don't believe me?
[05:47] <scrappy_> khoda`: page
[05:47] <eigenlambda> no
[05:47] <eigenlambda> i was just wondering, is all
[05:47] <SEJeff> eigenlambda: You can email me about that script if you have any questions... jeff.schroeder2@us.army.mil
[05:47] <tuxvix> wow ;) when I use curl, all kinds of weard characters flashes before my eyes =)
[05:47] <tuxvix> what the heck is gowing on
[05:48] <tuxvix> can I use curl in the way as wget?
[05:48] <tuxvix> to see progress
[05:48] <tuxvix> crap my putty crashed *shet
[05:48] <soheil> how to see hda1 contents?
[05:48] <tuxvix> ok, never mind it's still gowing in the background =)
[05:48] <DShepherd> soheil: mount it
[05:48] <SEJeff> soheil: mount it and then
[05:49] <tuxvix> how can I stop showing this crap on the screen with curl ?
[05:49] <SEJeff> eigenlambda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CFQbyDefault
[05:49] <tuxvix> It looks like matrix =) hahahaha
[05:49] <GoDawgs> tritium, hello there. :)
[05:49] <meathead> I get this error a lot, can someone help to fix it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20628
[05:49] <khoda`> scrappy_: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail able)
[05:49] <khoda`> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it?
[05:49] <eigenlambda> sweet
[05:50] <johnnyg> I have an external USB hard drive attached to my computer. Once instead of unplugged it, I selected "unmount". Since then, it doesn't pop up when I plug it in. How can i re-locate my USB hard drive?
[05:50] <tuxvix> how can I download wma file with curl?
[05:50] <DanaG> !kernel > danag
[05:50] <tuxvix> I mean *wmv
[05:51] <SEJeff> eigenlambda: Use the man page and google... that is how I learned :)      All that stuff is self taught for me. You might also download the pdf of the advanced bash scripting manual
[05:51] <eigenlambda> naturally
[05:51] <DanaG> When is edgy scheduled for release?
[05:51] <DanaG> !edgy
[05:51] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:51] <jordo23> Hey
[05:51] <DanaG> !schedule
[05:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:52] <jordo23> I just installed an older version of warty and my sources.list file is screwed. Everytime I try to apt-get something it says not found and referred to by another package....what do I do?
[05:52] <tuxvix> any other command besides curl and wget?
[05:52] <cyanics> i am one lucky bugger. spilt a doc. pepper on my laptop 2 days ago. working just fine today
[05:52] <jordo23> Ideally I would like to upgrade the dist. Haven't used Linux in a while
[05:53] <meathead> tuxvix: curl and wget both won't work when sshing, you want scp
[05:53] <meathead> in the lionk I sent you
[05:53] <johnnyg> How do I view all plugged in USB devices?
[05:53] <jordo23> anyone?
[05:53] <meathead> I get this error a lot, can someone help to fix it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20628
[05:53] <scrappy_> jordo23: id distupgrade a few times man
[05:53] <tuxvix> mount -l
[05:53] <jeff303> anyone else have FF 1.5.0.5 randomly crash on you?
[05:53] <bimberi> johnnyg: lsusb
[05:53] <SEJeff> tuxvix: scp
[05:53] <jordo23> scrappy_:  I want to.....my sources.list is screwed up though
[05:54] <tuxvix> crap it is denied too, ok thx everyone
[05:54] <bimberi> jeff303: yes, after installing aiglx/compiz
[05:54] <siratik000> anyone know anything about ispconfig
[05:54] <soheil> how to mount hda1?
[05:54] <jeff303> bimberi: what package is that?
[05:54] <meathead> mount /dev/hda1
[05:54] <khoda`> what does this mean??
[05:54] <khoda`> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail able)
[05:54] <khoda`> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it?
[05:54] <johnnyg> bimberi: thanks, now for the big one, how do I mount a USB external hard drive that has worked in system before but was unmounted last time I used it
[05:55] <meathead> khoda; that means you need to type sudo to do whatever you're doing. you don't have proper permissions
[05:55] <scrappy_> jordo23: cant find a working one online to copy?
[05:55] <meathead> orr, another program is actually using that
[05:55] <bimberi> jeff303: various, but i wouldn't recommend it
[05:55] <meathead> like... synaptic
[05:55] <jordo23> Scrappy_: no....have no more CD's either...
[05:55] <bimberi> johnnyg: unplug/replug ?
[05:55] <SEJeff> siratik000: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10
[05:55] <johnnyg> bimberi: tried that, also restarted an booted
[05:55] <jordo23> Scrappy_: would like to upgrade through apt, but my sources.list doesn't work
[05:56] <jordo23> I have it available if anyone wants to read it
[05:56] <ardchoille> khoda`: Do you have Synaptic open?
[05:56] <khoda`> meathead: i did type sudo
[05:56] <khoda`> ardchoille: no, i closed it
[05:56] <bimberi> johnnyg: does 'dmesg | tail' show anything immediately after plugging it in?
[05:56] <ardchoille> khoda`: k
[05:56] <meathead> khoda`: are you trying to install or uninstall a package?
[05:56] <Slaj_R> Question... Here's the error message I get when I try to play a video on a web page...
[05:57] <khoda`> ardchoille: when i open it back up the multiverse/universe is unchecked... is that suppsoed to happen
[05:57] <khoda`> meathead: yes
[05:57] <Slaj_R> Totem could not play 'mms://<file address>.wmv'.
[05:57] <Slaj_R> No URI handler implemented for "mms".
[05:57] <SEJeff> bimberi: dmesg | tail won't work like you want it. I think you mean tail -f /var/log/messages
[05:57] <ardchoille> khoda`: I don't know, I do everything from command line
[05:57] <meathead> khoda`: then close synaptic or whatever other package managing program you have open
[05:57] <Slaj_R> Can someone point me in the right direction for a solution?
[05:57] <bimberi> SEJeff: it will, but your way is better :)
[05:57] <scrappy_> jordo23: well ideally youd find one for hoarty and just apt-get update
[05:58] <scrappy_> jordo23: hoary
[05:58] <lmosher> Does anyone know how to find information about my sound driver in ubuntu?
[05:58] <jordo23> scrappy_: can you look at my sources.list if i post it?
[05:58] <meathead> goto system, preferences, sound?
[05:58] <ardchoille> jordo23: pastebin it, I'll look at it
[05:58] <tomasz27> I just installed Ubuntu. It is freakin awsome!
[05:58] <jordo23> ok
[05:59] <ardchoille> tomasz27: YAY! :)
[05:59] <meathead> tomasz27: sweet!
[05:59] <khoda`> ardchoille: how do you enable multiverse/universe from command line
[05:59] <khoda`> ardchoille: i just want to install flash
[05:59] <scrappy_> jordo23: paste.ubuntu-nl.org    yeah
[05:59] <tomasz27> SCREW Windows
[05:59] <crashtest> any ideas?
[05:59] <crashtest> please?
[05:59] <ardchoille> !repos > khoda`
[05:59] <rockzman> Does anyone know where can i get a free source of cedega?
[06:00] <meathead> uhh, I pay for cedega
[06:00] <DanaG> cvscedega, but it doesn't work.
[06:00] <DanaG> It won't even compile.
[06:00] <scrappy_> rockzman: no because that is wrong and i dont like to talk about isohunt
[06:00] <Asenchi> crashtest: could be a MAX setting in the kernel, just an idea
[06:00] <johnnyg> bimberi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20629
[06:00] <DanaG> At least the last time I tried.
[06:00] <rockzman> meathead: i heard that  there is a source code for paid cedega
[06:00] <Slaj_R> Also, anyone know what happened to the option of de-selecting some screensavers in xscreensaver (random mode)?
[06:00] <rockzman> scrappy_: wahh -.- geek
[06:00] <rockzman> rofl
[06:00] <meathead> the cvs yeah, but it never compiles like DanaG said
[06:00] <crashtest> asenchi: hmmm
[06:01] <rockzman> meathead: oh this "free" code is the cvscedega?
[06:01] <meathead> yeah
[06:01] <scrappy_> rockzman: either pirate it or pony up the money :)
[06:01] <rockzman> scrappy_: :P 1st option, thank you
[06:01] <SEJeff> rockzman: install frostwire and get it there...
[06:01] <skypa> hi, I'd like to loop through a variable line by line in a bash script.. any ideas on how to do that?
[06:01] <meathead> maybe if someone said whether or not they need 64 bit someone in the channel might just happen to send them a binary of the program?
[06:01] <jordo23> Pastebin link:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20630
[06:01] <rockzman> SEJeff: im doing it with eMule
[06:02] <meathead> I get this error a lot, can someone help to fix it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20628
[06:02] <skypa> I already know how to do it with a file (while read line etc), but not how to to it with a variable :)
[06:02] <SEJeff> skypa: pastebin how you think it should look to give me an idea and I'll give you working code
[06:02] <rockzman> SEJeff: thanks anyway
[06:02] <bimberi> johnnyg: do those messages just keep coming? - try 'tail -f /var/log/messages' (as SEJeff said)
[06:02] <skypa> alrighty
[06:02] <ardchoille> jordo23: ok, what is the problem?
[06:03] <scrappy_> jordo23: if you comment out the cdrom line and apt-get update does that fix?
[06:03] <jordo23> ardchoille:  everytime I try to apt-get or upgrade it states that packages don't exist and are referred to by another
[06:04] <johnnyg> bimberi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20631
[06:04] <Asenchi> crashtest: i found somehting, one second
[06:04] <jordo23> scrappy_: cdrom line?
[06:04] <rockzman> !source'o matic
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about source'o matic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <rockzman> !source o'matic
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about source o'matic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <ardchoille> jordo23: jordo23 You're using warty?
[06:05] <scrappy_> jordo23: first thing i do after install is put a # in front of deb cdrom at the top and remove any # in front of other deb lines
[06:05] <UpMarc> Hi all!
[06:05] <scrappy_> jordo23: then sudo apt-get update
[06:05] <jordo23> ardchoille:  old dist.....want to upgrade to current
[06:05] <UpMarc> please, I'm a beginner and need some help
[06:06] <bimberi> johnnyg: and they just keep coming?
[06:06] <Jbirk> Any really cool password management util?
[06:06] <Jbirk> for Ubunut?
[06:06] <Jbirk> Ubuntu
[06:06] <jordo23> Then do dist-upgrade?
[06:06] <UpMarc> I'm trying to install Jahshaka for Ubuntu
[06:06] <ardchoille> jordo23: You'll need to upgrade from warty to breezy, then from breezy to dapper
[06:06] <johnnyg> bimberi: no, after Aug 14 22:58:44 localhost kernel: [17180697.916000]  usb 5-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 21 it just blinks and I don't get another command prompt
[06:06] <jordo23> ardchoille: cool with me
[06:07] <jordo23> distupgrade?
[06:07] <SEJeff> johnnyg: I wrote up a tutorial on this awhile back on the ML of my Linux User Group. Here it is: http://www.taclug.org/pipermail/taclug-general/2004-November/012985.html
[06:07] <UpMarc> but after commands: sudo apt-get update (done) and sudo apt-get install jahshaka
[06:08] <UpMarc> the message is: Impossible to find package jahshaka
[06:08] <jordo23> ardchoille: did apt-get dist-upgrade and it seems to be working
[06:08] <johnnyg> SEJeff: thanks much, I'll read it and pop back in with questions (or to say thank for you getting it working)  :)
[06:08] <ardchoille> !info jahshaka
[06:08] <ubotu> Package jahshaka does not exist in dapper
[06:08] <SEJeff> Jbirk: Get revelation from Universe. I use it all the time as a password manager and it's awesome. make sure to play with the preferences
[06:08] <ardchoille> UpMarc: That's why
[06:08] <SEJeff> johnnyg: well I am leaving sometime soon like I said I was 20 minutes ago...
[06:08] <Asenchi> crashtest: i lied, no solutions. but google has some returns on people with similar problems, just can't find a solution
[06:08] <ardchoille> Jbirk: I second what SEJeff said, revelation is a very good password manager :)
[06:08] <jeff303> has anyone else had their nvidia-glx package stop working after upgrading from breezy->dapper?  (what I really mean is, device "nvidia" doesn't work in the xorg.conf)
[06:09] <jordo23> scrappy_: does that sound right to you (I already did apt-get update and it worked)
[06:09] <crashtest> hrm.
[06:09] <johnnyg> SEJeff: boo!
[06:09] <skypa> SEJeff, took a while, pastebin.com is painfully slow today: http://monoport.com/933
[06:09] <Asenchi> i am sure it is a kernel setting, or sometype of login processor that limits file{creation,size,opened}
[06:09] <SEJeff> johnnyg: Hey I am doing this for free at 12:09AM... you get what you pay for ;-)
[06:10] <bimberi> johnnyg: hmmk, unfortunately the hits i'm getting on those messages relate to bad disk or usb power issues - this thread is interesting: http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2005/03/msg00368.html
[06:10] <ardchoille> Asenchi: Hi :)
[06:10] <Asenchi> i know BSD's have something where you can set these things... just can't remember where in Linux something similar would be.
[06:10] <scrappy_> jordo23: bear in mind its only updating to latest version that is in sources.list if you want to move to breezy you have to paste a breezy sources.list and apt-get update again
[06:10] <Asenchi> ardchoille: hey :)
[06:10] <jordo23> scrappy_: where do I get a new sources.list?
[06:10] <scrappy_> jordo23: youre using gedit to edit the file?
[06:11] <jordo23> scrappy_: wasn't....using PICO
[06:11] <jordo23> scrappy_: through root term....pico
[06:11] <morphix> How do i make startx execute upon logining into shell from a certain user, i tried adding to ~/.bash_profile but that still doesnt work :(
[06:12] <scrappy_> jordo23: i would think you could just replace any warty with breezy and then save and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:12] <johnnyg> I'm heading into windows to see if it pulls there, brb
[06:12] <jordo23> scrappy_:  will try.....one minute
[06:12] <jordo23> scrappy_: how do you check which dist is currently running through command line?
[06:12] <scrappy_> cat /etc/lsb-release i think
[06:13] <SEJeff> jordo23: cat /etc/issue
[06:13] <jordo23> rhx
[06:13] <jordo23> thx
[06:14] <ardchoille> jordo23: open a term and do:  lsb_release -a
[06:15] <Cainus> anyone know if there's a way to wget to standard io?
[06:15] <Cainus> instead of a file
[06:15] <drbreen> man wget ?
[06:16] <Cainus> tried wget --help ... guess I can try that
[06:16] <godtvisken> Where are keymaps/keyboard layouts stored?
[06:16] <jordo23> Seems to be working replacing warty with breezy.....just to be sure to I do dist-upgrade or just upgrade?
[06:16] <scrappy_> Canute: | ?
[06:16] <Cainus> I to nothing?
[06:16] <Cainus> errrr
[06:16] <Cainus>  | to nothing?
[06:16] <scrappy_> Cainus: i cant be bothered with every little detail
[06:16] <scrappy_> :)
[06:17] <Cainus> heh well that's essentially what I'm asking :)
[06:17] <jordo23> scrappy_: I updated the package lists after replacing warty with breezy, do I dist-upgrade or just upgrade?
[06:17] <rellim> what does ubuntu use to manager usb devices?
[06:18] <Whyvas> lsusb!
[06:19] <rellim> Whyvas: thanks
[06:19] <scrappy_> jordo23: dist-upgrade
[06:19] <godtvisken> How can I search for a directory name?
[06:19] <p4> Hello/ How to upgrade SERVER configuration of Hoary to Dapper?
[06:19] <rellim> Whyvas: what daemon is server that?
[06:19] <rellim> p4: same way you do a desktop install ... only difference is the packages
[06:19] <p4> Server installation
[06:20] <Whyvas> rellim, ???
[06:20] <Cainus> wget google.com | /dev/stdout gives me a permission denied error
[06:20] <Whyvas> rellim, what do you want to do?
[06:20] <p4> Thank you
[06:20] <poison> same way from breezy to dapper? /etc/apt/sources.list and change all entries that say hoary to dapper and do apt-get update apt-get upgrade?
[06:20] <rellim> p4: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_upgrade_from_Hoary_Hedgehog_-.3E_Breezy_Badger_-.3E_Dapper_Drake
[06:20] <rellim> p4: no problem
[06:20] <bimberi> godtvisken: 'locate blah' will find any file or directory with blah in it.  Make sure the locate database is up to date with 'sudo updatedb'
[06:21] <godtvisken> bimberi: thanks (:
[06:21] <jordo23> scrappy_/ardchoille:  thanks!  seems to be working....
[06:21] <jordo23> back in a bit
[06:22] <mrPolite> gftp is ugly and difficult to use any suggestions for an alternative ftp client?
[06:22] <rellim> Whyvas: my friend can't get his usb to work, just wanted to make sure he had the daemon/module loaded and didn't know what its called
[06:23] <meathead> hello>?
[06:23] <rellim> hello
[06:23] <willzzz> anyone here having a problem with an outdated package dependency with compiz? specifically libsvg-cairo (compiz needs >= 0.1.6, package in ubuntu repos is 0.1.5-0)
[06:24] <arcanistherogue> How do you unzip .rar files on ubuntu?  I checked the repositories but I can't find any rar or unrar package
[06:25] <Madpilot> arcanistherogue, the rar packages are in Universe or multiverse repos
[06:25] <scrappy_> arcanistherogue: its in multiverse
[06:25] <bimberi> !rar
[06:25] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:25] <arcanistherogue> aha
[06:25] <arcanistherogue> thanks everyone for fast help
[06:26] <rellim> arcanistherogue: we, as a whol, try ... (i know i didn't jump on that one, but i think i speak for everyone on that)
[06:26] <neunhundertsechs> germans here ??
[06:26] <poison> so how long has everyone been on ubuntu now?
[06:26] <ardchoille> !dk
[06:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu diskussion paa dansk kan foeres i #ubuntu-dk
[06:26] <ardchoille> sorry, wrong one
[06:27] <Schlurmann> hello
[06:27] <rellim> poison: 3 months .... i am a 6 year debian user gone in the direction of user friendliness, convenience and a plesant community
[06:27] <neunhundertsechs> exists a ubuntu-de channel ?
[06:27] <scrappy_> poison: since warty for me.  but im just here to secretly recruit ubuntuers to freebsd
[06:27] <neunhundertsechs> exists a ubuntu-de channel ?
[06:27] <ardchoille> !de
[06:27] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:27] <Jbirk> How can I force dismout a volume?
[06:27] <Jbirk> as in really quick?
[06:27] <Jbirk> I.e. if someone is accessing data
[06:27] <Jbirk> and I neeed to stop it
[06:27] <rellim> poison: thus, i am now a ubuntu user ... (Xubuntu actually because i <3 xfce)
[06:28] <rellim> Jbirk: if you are root ... err, sudo privilaged
[06:28] <Jbirk> so
[06:28] <Jbirk> $sudo umount data
[06:28] <Jbirk> to force dismount the data volume?
[06:28] <Jbirk> I want it to dismount even if it has open handles
[06:28] <rellim> Jbirk: yeah
[06:28] <Jbirk> i.e. if a database is running from it
[06:28] <poison> I just got on it again. Was using Breezy a while back and switched to debian and now back to ubuntu for a week now.
[06:28] <godtvisken> How can I use my own custom keymap?
[06:28] <Jbirk> and I am willing to drop it flat on its face
[06:28] <rellim> Jbirk: hold ... there might be a force command
[06:29] <rellim> Jbirk: "sudo umount -f <disk>"
[06:29] <scrappy_> Jbirk: umount -l is handy too   lazy umount
[06:30] <neunhundertsechs> where i can find a good tutorial to install my nvidia card perfect ?
[06:30] <ardchoille> !away > meathead
[06:30] <rellim> neunhundertsechs: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[06:30] <Jbirk> Yeah
[06:30] <Jbirk> because let's say I am running samba
[06:30] <Jbirk> and someone is copying a file
[06:30] <Jbirk> and I want to stop it
[06:30] <scrappy_> neunhundertsechs: if you want to use the nvidia installer google for latest dapper nvidia or somesuch its in the forums
[06:30] <Jbirk> becuase I cannot let them have the file
[06:31] <Jbirk> any ideas?
[06:31] <Jbirk> other than stopping samba
[06:31] <mrPolite> !enter
[06:31] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[06:31] <threethirty> hey I was wondering if there is any support for touchscreens in Ubuntu
[06:32] <Jbirk> you man like a tablet?
[06:32] <scrappy_> threethirty: which one?
[06:32] <rellim> Jbirk: pull the ethernet plug?
[06:32] <mrPolite> threethirty:  i use a wacom tablet
[06:32] <Jbirk> that effectivly stops all traffic to that NIC
[06:32] <threethirty> i have an unknow external monitor that is  touchscreen, it came from a movie theater
[06:33] <mrPolite> Jbirk: why are the files available and shared in samba if you don't want to allow copies?
[06:33] <Al-Ashtar> hi
[06:33] <Jbirk> This is just hypothetical
[06:33] <Jbirk> I can't wait to have kids
[06:33] <sethk> Jbirk, is making the mount read only useful?
[06:33] <Jbirk> sure
[06:34] <Jbirk> I think I can just change the permissions on the file
[06:34] <Jbirk> seems helpful
[06:34] <Jbirk> Thanks
[06:34] <Jbirk> I can't wait to have kids
[06:34] <mrPolite> !tell Jbirk about enter
[06:34] <ardchoille> making the mount read only? How will that stop someone from reading a file?
[06:34] <mrPolite> read = copy
[06:34] <Jbirk> I will get to tell them stories like, "When I was your age ... if you unplugged the ethernet cable, you had to reboot to get it working again"
[06:35] <rellim> Jbirk: lol
[06:35] <morphix> !ati > morphix
[06:35] <ardchoille> read != copy
[06:36] <mrPolite> if a file can be viewed or played via samba, then a local copy can be saved
[06:36] <morphix> !nvidia > neunhundertsechs
[06:36] <kjm> Jbirk - When I was your age,  if I unplugged the modem cable, it froze my C64 and I had to shut down for 10 minutes for it to restart without melting.
[06:36] <kjm> so, pfffft
[06:36] <yossman> haha kjm
[06:36] <godtvisken> If I have a file filled with stuff like, key <AC01> { [a, A, ae, AE]  }; where does it belong so I can use it? (keymap file)
[06:36] <Al-Ashtar> I was using xchat 2.6.6 with the spell checking feature working ok, but yesterday I was forced to do a "fsck" upon boot up. after the reboot I lost the spell checking feature. so I tried re-compiling from source with --enable-spell=static just as the xchat FAQ said, but again it doesn't work. and google doesn't return anything useful.
[06:36] <Jbirk> I had to suffer Widnows 98 for ages
[06:37] <dann> helllooooo
[06:37] <morphix> Al-Ashtar: u just learn how to spell instead of relying on xchat to do it
[06:37] <cdew4545> does anyone know the system requirements for 6.06?? i've searched the forums and the documentation but cant seem to find it
[06:37] <morphix> could**
[06:37] <Al-Ashtar> morphix: not an option
[06:37] <dann> hahah
[06:37] <Al-Ashtar> :P
[06:37] <ardchoille> cdew4545: Well, I run Ubuntu on a PII with 128Mb ram
[06:37] <Jbirk> It has a Readyness analyser
[06:37] <morphix> cdew4545: 256mb ram 2gb hdd space
[06:38] <morphix> cdew4545: thats what it says on cd.
[06:38] <morphix> depends on what u have on it. and running
[06:38] <cdew4545> ok, i was just checking, i figured it was low, but how about install time for an older system?
[06:38] <Jbirk> Just pop the live CD in and it will run the readiness analyser much like Windows.  Only you will know for sure if it works or not before installing.
[06:38] <morphix> i had ubuntu running on my old p1 200mhz 64mb ram :)
[06:38] <kjm> cdew4545 - depends on how much stuff you want to install.  I would use the text installer though.
[06:38] <ardchoille> cdew4545: It took me about 45 min to install Ubuntu on that system and almost an hour to completely update it.
[06:39] <cdew4545> i've tried installing a few times but it seems to hang...from the same install disk i used for this comp
[06:39] <cdew4545> ok
[06:39] <ardchoille> morphix: nice :)
[06:39] <cdew4545> thanks a lot
[06:39] <Jbirk> How can I update Ubuntu?  I have not done that yet
[06:39] <morphix> if u do a slim install u can use very min req.
[06:39] <kjm> Jbirk - $sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:39] <poison> apt-get update apt-get upgrade
[06:40] <end_us> anyone have any idea why ubuntu is telling me that my obviosly -not-mounted-drive is suddenly in use when i try to mount it?
[06:40] <cdew4545> is that an option when you pop in the cd and restart?  i have just tried the first option regular install so far
[06:40] <Lil_Shank> can anyone help me configure my computer so it will use my dsl modem to connect to the internet?
[06:40] <Al-Ashtar> dist-upgrade handles better dependances
[06:40] <Al-Ashtar> errr I need my spell checking feature
[06:40] <end_us> Lil_shank: plug it into the modem and voila?
[06:40] <Jbirk> end-us, that happens to me all the time.  If I play a DVD via selecting /dev/hdc it does that
[06:40] <morphix> Lil_Shank: what type of dsl modem? usb, ethernet?
[06:41] <end_us> Jbirk: hrm.. any way to not make it do it? i cant even see whats on the disk ..
[06:41] <Lil_Shank> morphix: it uses both, I would prefer to use the usb but when i checked it said there wasnt a way to configure the usb
[06:41] <cdew4545> i have another question....do all of you use gcc to compile?
[06:41] <morphix> Lil_Shank: use ethernet instead of usb, its better
[06:41] <ardchoille> cdew4545: What are you compiling?
[06:42] <Goblyn> is there any way to make evolution minimize to the system tray?
[06:42] <Lil_Shank> morphix: how can i configure the ehternet to connect?
[06:42] <cdew4545> well its seems like a lot of programs i try to get for linux make you install first
[06:42] <Jbirk> Well, with me, if I stop any application accessing the devices directly, I can mount the device
[06:42] <cdew4545> er compile them first
[06:42] <end_us> weird .. i dont think its doing anything at all right now ..
[06:42] <ardchoille> cdew4545: Check the repos before installing. Many people compile and then later find out the app was in the repos
[06:43] <morphix> Lil_Shank: depends on your modem, could u give some more info? brand, model, etc
[06:43] <ardchoille> s/installing/compiling/
[06:43] <cdew4545> ok
[06:43] <one_stinky_bum> hello folks
[06:43] <one_stinky_bum> what's the best tablet PC for ubuntu?
[06:43] <end_us> Lil-shank: dont umm.. doesent it just do it for you .. like when you plug it in ?
[06:43] <Lil_Shank> end_us: it doesnt for some reason
[06:44] <end_us> gotcha
[06:44] <cdew4545> also... by chance does anyone out there use a dlink 520 wireless card??? i have tried so hard to get that to work but dont knwo what im doing wrong, so i have to use windows to access the web for everything
[06:44] <Stegozor> Hi everyone, I swtiched to GNU/Linux -Ubuntu dapper a few days ago. I'm having problems with dosemu. Did anyone here install it from Synaptic?
[06:44] <one_stinky_bum> nobody knows about tablet pcs?
[06:44] <ardchoille> cdew4545: I have been using Ubuntu since Hoary, on 11 machines. I also build computers, install Ubuntu and donate them.. I've not had to compile anything yet :)
[06:45] <morphix> one_stinky_bum: i reckon most would work fine
[06:45] <end_us> one_stinky_bum: no man. not this guy at least
[06:45] <one_stinky_bum> ok
[06:45] <scrappy_> Stegozor: its in multiverse assuming you have that enabled it should just install
[06:45] <cdew4545> ardchoille:  probably jsut my lack of experience with linux and installing files....I have my computer in a location where i have to have wireless internet and i havent gotten that to work for ubuntu yet so i have to run windows for everything basically
[06:45] <Jbirk> Has anyone here ever tired palying Xvid?
[06:46] <one_stinky_bum> but I currently have the gateway m280
[06:46] <poison> stegozor I could not get dosemu to work but I did get dosbox to work
[06:46] <one_stinky_bum> the digitizer doesn't work
[06:46] <morphix> cdew4545: Dlink DWL-520?
[06:46] <cdew4545> yes morphix
[06:46] <one_stinky_bum> I was looking for a tablet pc that would work best out of the box with 6.06
[06:46] <one_stinky_bum> I was going to sell my gateway
[06:46] <cdew4545> rev E
[06:46] <DanaG> I have the m685 -- it works nicely.
[06:46] <Stegozor> poison : is it a bug concerning ubuntu ? because  people using other distribs tell on USENET that they use dosemu fine
[06:47] <morphix> cdew4545: rev E1?
[06:47] <dougsko> anyone know why after installing the libdvdcss2 package, i still dont get sound on my one dvd?
[06:47] <cdew4545> morphix:  yep
[06:47] <end_us> one_stinky_bum: just pick one man. it'll be the right one
[06:47] <one_stinky_bum> LOL
[06:47] <Lil_Shank> morphix: my modem is an Actiontec GT701-WG
[06:47] <dougsko> i needed libdvdcss2 to unscramble it, all my other dvds play fine
[06:47] <one_stinky_bum> I already have one, it's not the right one apparently
[06:47] <end_us> =o
[06:47] <morphix> cdew4545: ok, go to, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/DWL-520vE1?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[06:48] <TheGame> sup
[06:48] <TheGame> i have to say ubuntu with xgl is the most pleasant os experience
[06:48] <one_stinky_bum> oh well... no help
[06:48] <yossman> yea thegame agree'd
[06:48] <one_stinky_bum> where is that windoze cd
[06:48] <TheGame> one_stinky_bum:  what do u need
[06:49] <one_stinky_bum> I need some help with a tablet pc
[06:49] <TheGame> oh
[06:49] <cdew4545> morphix:  what if a wlan0 already shows up when i install?
[06:49] <one_stinky_bum> I've got a gateway m280 but the digitizer doesn't work
[06:49] <TheGame> does any1 know if theres a touchpad setup in ubuntu
[06:49] <cdew4545> morphix:  does that mean it already recognizes the card?
[06:49] <one_stinky_bum> so I was wondering if there was a "best" tablet pc for ubuntu
[06:49] <TheGame> oh
[06:49] <Stegozor> going to bed, see you soon
[06:49] <dougsko> TheGame: yeah theres a synaptic package i think
[06:49] <TheGame> oh really
[06:49] <gutano> can I do a server install from a desktop install disk? (I'm out of CD's, and I'd rather get my install going tonight)
[06:49] <TheGame> let me open up syn
[06:50] <dougsko> TheGame: theres an article in the wiki about it i think
[06:50] <morphix> cdew4545: it might, but doesnt mean it will properly, i had that with a buffalo wireless card.
[06:50] <TheGame> which wiki dougsko
[06:50] <dougsko> the ubuntu wiki, its like wiki.ubuntu.org
[06:50] <TheGame> ok ill check it out
[06:51] <Jbirk> Sorry to bother you, but what is xgl?
[06:51] <TheGame> theres ksynaptics and qtsynaptics
[06:51] <cdew4545> morphix:  I will run through that again, but im pretty sure I already tried that.  Does it matter if the network is encrypted or not?  In ubuntu it always seems to want a key, but i live out in the country and only am keeping my wireless router here for another week so i didnt bother with encryption
[06:51] <morphix> Lil_Shank: i assume u normally connect through USB and use PPP login in windows??
[06:51] <robert_> is there a ubuntu guide to configuring Kerberos V?
[06:51] <dougsko> Jbirk: its eyecandy stuff
[06:51] <TheGame> ill try qsynaptics
[06:52] <dougsko> TheGame: k=kde, qt=gnome
[06:52] <TheGame> on to my next question
[06:52] <dougsko> TheGame: for the most part
[06:52] <TheGame> how do i disable system beep
[06:52] <c0rrupt`> hi has anyone tried the ac97 audio drivers for realtek ?
[06:52] <dougsko> TheGame: somewhere in the sounds setup i think
[06:52] <one_stinky_bum> :(
[06:52] <gutano> qt = gnome?  O.o
[06:52] <c0rrupt`> i recently installed them, and alsamixer crashes when run now
[06:52] <morphix> cdew4545: shouldnt matter at all as long as u configure everything properly
[06:52] <meeko> Does Ubuntu have a strings command?
[06:52] <meeko> like every other distro I've used in my life
[06:52] <TheGame> ya it was in sound] 
[06:52] <Lil_Shank> morphix: yes, but i use the ethernet as well
[06:52] <TheGame> i guess i never really looked
[06:53] <morphix> c0rrupt`: which ones? there are plenty drivers... i have a realtek
[06:53] <dougsko> gutano: i said sort of. its built on the qt libraries
[06:53] <ardchoille> dougsko: that's not true. qt != gnome and "k" doesn't always mean a kde app
[06:53] <morphix> Lil_Shank: so both ways u use a PPP login?
[06:53] <Gog123> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1165754797197197496
[06:53] <dougsko> ardchoille: i said *sort of*
[06:53] <Gog123> first time ive seen mark shuttleworth speak
[06:53] <dougsko> i knew i was gonna catch heck for that
[06:53] <Jbirk> What makes XGL worth the effort of installing it?
[06:54] <Lil_Shank> morphix: yes, but when i configured it on a different machine (different version of ubuntu) it let me use it without the PPP
[06:54] <gutano> dougsko: kde is built on the qt library... gnome is built _primarily_ on the gtk library (although gtk is widely used outside gnome)
[06:54] <gutano> hehe
[06:54] <morphix> Lil_Shank: if u put the modem in non-bridge mode and use ethernet u would just have to plug the ethernet cable into ur pc and viola
[06:55] <gutano> was just reading your catch heck line... don't mean to hastle you for not caring if you always say things exactly right
[06:55] <erisco> good evening everyone, I have an issue regarding haulting ubuntu 6.06 and powering off the computer
[06:55] <Lil_Shank> morphix: how do i set it up as non-bridge mode
[06:55] <gary[ubuntu] > !dvd
[06:55] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:55] <erisco> I will either use the GUI or manually type in halt -p
[06:55] <yossman> Jbirk> What makes XGL worth the effort of installing it?
[06:55] <yossman> man.  it is one of the coolest desktop extentions i've ever used
[06:55] <TheGame> hmm
[06:55] <erisco> however, the screen will nearly instantly turn black and the power is never turned offf
[06:55] <yossman> on a computer
[06:56] <gutano> can I do a server install from a desktop install disk? (I'm out of CD's, and I'd rather get my install going tonight)
[06:56] <Jbirk> I kind of want a list of what it does?  Does it do fancy Macintosh type stuff?
[06:56] <yossman> Xgl + compiz + cgwd is very cool
[06:56] <yossman> it gets cooler every day
[06:56] <cbx33> yossman, I agree
[06:56] <morphix> Lil_Shank: i honestly dont know, go into the web interface of the modem to change it
[06:56] <cbx33> vvveerrryyy coool
[06:56] <dougsko> so does anybody have any idea why lidvdcss unscrambles my dvd fine, but there's still no sound?
[06:56] <erisco> I can't tell if ubuntu has safely halted or not, and it is still a bother with the power not turning off because then I have to pull the plug every time
[06:56] <ardchoille> Jbirk: You'd have to read up on XGL to see if it suits you. I feel that XGL is nothing more than a resource wasting toy.
[06:56] <yossman> i showed it to like 20 people the other day
[06:56] <yossman> i spun the cube desktop and they're all WOA
[06:56] <yossman> 'can i get a copy of that!'
[06:56] <cbx33> heheh
[06:56] <erisco> does anyone have an resources or knowledge of situations like this?
[06:56] <yossman> and then they ask how much it is
[06:56] <genpatton7> hello, I just installed ubuntu on my WD external HD and my computer won't recognize it
[06:56] <yossman> they're like .. what do you mean free
[06:56] <Lil_Shank> morphix: i tried but it says it cant connect to a server, is there a way to bring up that in the terminal?
[06:56] <yossman> what?
[06:56] <erisco> I am thinking it is simply compatibility with my computer, which is an AMD
[06:57] <genpatton7> any ideas?
[06:57] <erisco> not a 64 bit processor
[06:57] <yossman> genpatton, have you told your BIOS to boot from USB HDDs
[06:57] <neunhundertsechs> ive installed the nvidia driver, and now its frozen...how can i restore ?
[06:57] <morphix> Lil_Shank: so u tried goin in firefox and going to http://192.168.0.1 ?? with the modem plugged in via ethernet
[06:57] <erisco> Windows on this computer (it dual boots) is completely capable of restarting and shutting off the computer
[06:57] <Lil_Shank> morphix: yes, but without the http://
[06:57] <erisco> unforunately ubuntu is not
[06:57] <genpatton7> yossman: BIOS doesn't recognize it
[06:58] <erisco> can anyone help me here or am I wasting my time?
[06:58] <yossman> erisco, it sounds like a problem with the power management on your machine
[06:58] <yossman> erisco, check for a BIOS firmware update ?
[06:58] <dougsko> erisco: does the reboot command work?
[06:58] <yossman> genpatton, well
[06:58] <yossman> that might be an issue
[06:58] <erisco> dougsko:no
[06:58] <yossman> not sure if you can do that with GRUB or not
[06:58] <TheGame> stupid qsynaptics doesnt work
[06:58] <PurpleTen> anyone know a webproxy site?
[06:58] <yossman> does anyone know, can grub install to hdd1 in the system and tell the system to boot from USB next?
[06:59] <yossman> to help genpatton7
[06:59] <end_us> erisco: i can'  thelp you
[06:59] <neunhundertsechs> ive installed the nvidia driver, and now its frozen...how can i restore the old setting?
[06:59] <TheGame> how do i disable the touchpad
[06:59] <erisco> yossman:Windows has no issue shutting off and restarting the computer. I think it would be compatibility between ubuntu and my power management, but not solely the power management
[06:59] <TheGame> just remove the driver?
[06:59] <gutano> erisco: the kernel you are using probably doesn't have the correct power management functions compiled in, if this is a stock ubuntu kernel, your choices are to install your own outside the package manager, roll your own package, look for someone else to give you a package (if they have fixed a similar issue), or deal with it....  depending on your level of motivation and technical skill (I may have missed an approach)
[06:59] <genpatton7> yossman: Windows doesn't recognize the drive now either
[06:59] <yossman> erisco, so yea maybe ubuntu doesn't know your system's particular APM management
[06:59] <yossman> genpatton, and it won't, no
[07:00] <yossman> erisco, actually heh that might be it, if your system uses APM instead of ACPI that could be a problem
[07:00] <erisco> gutano yossman, so my solutions are to find what my APM management version or type is
[07:00] <yossman> erisco, do a search on ubuntuforums.org for your motherboard
[07:00] <yossman> brand, model
[07:00] <yossman> see if anyone else has similar issues
[07:00] <dougsko> erisco: yeah thats a tough one, that might even be a kernel problem. does dmesg give any clues?
[07:00] <yossman> you could also expand that search to google.com
[07:01] <gutano> erisco: it is a simple option in the kernel... usually not very hardware specific
[07:01] <loopout> Anyone willing to answer a  'install-css.sh' question?
[07:01] <erisco> gutano, what are you suggesting then
[07:01] <ardchoille> yossman: Can you form complete sentences please? Your filling up my buffer needlessly :)
[07:01] <neunhundertsechs> how i can uninstall the nvidia drivers ? ive now only the console
[07:01] <neunhundertsechs> how i can uninstall the nvidia drivers ? ive now only the console
[07:01] <c0rrupt`> does anyone know why..
[07:01] <erisco> dougsko, pardon my ignorance, what is dmesg?
[07:01] <majd_> !ssh
[07:01] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[07:01] <gutano> I would compile a kernel from source
[07:02] <c0rrupt`> nvidia drivers require 2.6.15-23?
[07:02] <c0rrupt`> im using 2.6.15-26 now
[07:02] <morphix> !xorg
[07:02] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:02] <c0rrupt`> and it keeps trying to install old kernel source
[07:02] <Jbirk> wow
[07:02] <yossman> ard i'll try to remember ;)
[07:02] <Jbirk> I looked it up on google videos, XGL is awsome
[07:02] <ardchoille> yossman: Thank you :)
[07:02] <Jbirk> Sweet ALT tab
[07:02] <dougsko> erisco: its messages that the system prints during boot up/down
[07:02] <Jbirk> and cube thing
[07:02] <Jbirk> and the windows wiggle when moved
[07:02] <dougsko> just type dmesg in a shell
[07:02] <morphix> !nvidia > neunhundertsechs
[07:03] <yossman> ard, the nature of IRC is a bit disjointed anyway .. so ;)
[07:03] <c0rrupt`> ?..
[07:03] <erisco> dougsko, is this a log? or is it shown on the screen? if it is on the screen, I never get a 'boot down' screen, it just turns black
[07:03] <c0rrupt`> nvidia-glx needs 2.6.15-23??
[07:03] <c0rrupt`> wtf
[07:03] <ardchoille> yossman: ok, I'll just put you on my iggy list, no problem :)
[07:03] <dougsko> its also good for when you plug in a usb device or something and you want to know the name of it so you can mount it
[07:03] <morphix> c0rrupt`: no it shouldnt.
[07:03] <loopout> Anyone willing to answer a  'install-css.sh' question?  it errors out saying 'no acceptable C compiler in $path
[07:03] <c0rrupt`> ok well
[07:03] <c0rrupt`> i have 2.6.15.23 completly removed
[07:03] <Lil_Shank> should i try restarting the computer with the modem plugged in to the ethernet connection?
[07:03] <c0rrupt`> and now i type
[07:03] <yossman> ard, whatever ;)
[07:03] <morphix> loopout: thats a shell script/intaller
[07:03] <c0rrupt`> udo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:03] <c0rrupt`> s*
[07:04] <c0rrupt`> The following extra packages will be installed:
[07:04] <c0rrupt`>   linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386
[07:04] <c0rrupt`> so wtf?
[07:04] <morphix> just let that install than do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:04] <dougsko> erisco: yeah its a log, just read through it and if youve booted up or down recently enough, youll see all the stuff your system was doing during the boot
[07:04] <dougsko> erisco: then you might be able to tell what its doing last
[07:05] <c0rrupt`> ok ill try that morphix
[07:05] <erisco> dougsko, that is a great idea. do you know the abouts of the log?
[07:05] <c0rrupt`> dist-upgrade didnt do anything
[07:05] <c0rrupt`> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:05] <dougsko> erisco: just type, "dmesg"
[07:05] <dougsko> but it's also in /var/log/dmesg i think
[07:06] <loopout> morphix - yea, it errors out though saying 'no accepatble C compiler in $path' what C compiler should I install?
[07:06] <slid3r> sorry had a little crash there
[07:06] <genpatton7> Why does my external HD not show up in Windows after installing Ubuntu to it?
[07:06] <erisco> dougsko, what would I be looking for? I see things about APCI
[07:06] <Tonren> Hey guys, whenever I access external media (hard drives, flash memory, MP3 players, etc) and I delete something, it moves the files into a special trash folder ON THE external media!!! How do I get GNOME to stop doing that?
[07:06] <erisco> dougsko, some bluetooth thing
[07:06] <dougsko> erisco: also, you may want to look in /var/log/messages, /var/log/error something, basically, theres a bunch of logs in /var/log that *might* prove useful
[07:06] <c0rrupt`> hmm
[07:06] <Tonren> genpatton7: By default, Windows cannot recognize the filesystem used by Linux (ext3)
[07:06] <morphix> loopout: i dont know why a shell script would be saying that, gcc is the normal compiler for building
[07:06] <dougsko> erisco: i dont know, maybe some sort of errors
[07:07] <anzio_> Does anyone know what ports the default Ubuntu client uses?
[07:07] <Tonren> genpatton7: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[07:07] <dougsko> erisco: or maybe whats going on right before the system hangs
[07:07] <genpatton7> Tonren: Any way to boot from that HD or set up a dual-boot?
[07:07] <loopout> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[07:07] <loopout> See `config.log' for more details.
[07:07] <loopout> make: *** [build-stamp]  Error 1
[07:07] <erisco> dougsko, this is a log of when I last turned on? Or last turned off?
[07:07] <anzio_> !bittorrent
[07:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bittorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <c0rrupt`> morphix, did what u said. ran nividia-glx-config enable
[07:07] <c0rrupt`> and restarted x server
[07:07] <c0rrupt`> still not running on nvidia. wtfz0r
[07:08] <Tonren> genpatton7: Hmm... I'm not sure how you'd go about dual-booting, since I use Ubuntu's default boot loader setup that happens when you partition your hard drive.
[07:08] <dougsko> erisco: last turned it on, i think, i kind of forget
[07:08] <Tonren> genpatton7: In fact, I'm not sure if you CAN set up your computer to boot from a USB hard drive (assuming your external is USB).
[07:08] <morphix> hmm
[07:08] <TheGame> any1 know how to disable the touchpad
[07:08] <end_us> how the heck do you become the root user in terminal in ubuntu!
[07:08] <yossman> he needs to check his bios
[07:08] <morphix> end_us: sudo su
[07:08] <Tonren> !tell end_us about sudo
[07:08] <stritar> the networking on my desktop stopped working over the weekend. it runs VERY slow (30b/s) and everything times out. every now and then i can connect via ssh, but then it disconnects. anyone know what it could be?
[07:08] <erisco> dougsko, thats np. Well, I see everything having to do with starting this and starting that. Nothing about turning off
[07:08] <genpatton7> tonren: yeah that's the problem, BIOS doesn't recognize the external HD
[07:09] <erisco> dougsko, I can't view the log after I shut down either now can I? heh
[07:09] <dougsko> erisco: theres a kernel log too in /var/log
[07:09] <c0rrupt`> o.0
[07:09] <c0rrupt`> why would this shit require old kernel..
[07:09] <dougsko> erisco: i wish i could help you more, but that's really all i got
[07:09] <morphix> c0rrupt`: it doesnt, install linux-restricted-modules-686
[07:09] <pricklysponge> hey
[07:09] <morphix> that should upgrade that package to the latest kernel
[07:09] <Tonren> genpatton7: Hang on, I'm sure there's a way.  Let me google for a sec
[07:09] <anzio_> does anyone know of a good bit torrent program for Ubuntu? or perhaps a website where I can get information on the default Ubuntu bit torrent client?
[07:09] <c0rrupt`> 686?
[07:09] <genpatton7> tonren: thanks
[07:10] <erisco> dougsko, don't worry about it
[07:10] <morphix> c0rrupt`: also, are u sure u r actually booted into that kernel?
[07:10] <Tonren> Does anyone know how to make trashed files on external media go to the actual trash, instead of a special trash INSIDE the external media?
[07:10] <c0rrupt`> yea.
[07:10] <Flannel> anzio_: btdownload[frontend] 
[07:10] <c0rrupt`> booted into latest kernel
[07:10] <Tonren> anzio_: sudo aptitude install bittornado bittornado-gui
[07:10] <morphix> c0rrupt`: yeh well just install linux-restricted-modules-686
[07:10] <c0rrupt`> the old kernel had the drivers working
[07:10] <anzio_> thanks
[07:10] <Tonren> anzio_: np
[07:10] <morphix> it installs the extra modules for ur current kernel
[07:10] <erisco> dougsko, the only problem is I see a lot of things having to do with starting up, but not things about shutting down
[07:10] <pricklysponge> would somone by any chance, be able to tell me how to join the #politicalcrossfire chatroom?
[07:11] <erisco> dougsko, is there a way to save a 'shut-down' log?
[07:11] <Tonren> genpatton7: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB
[07:11] <c0rrupt`> morphix, reinstall nvidia-glx?
[07:11] <erisco> dougsko, a ha
[07:11] <yossman> prickly, /join #politicalcrossfire
[07:11] <erisco> dougsko, what is wtmp?
[07:11] <morphix> c0rrupt`: yeh and do a dpkg --reconfigure on it aswell
[07:11] <c0rrupt`> okay
[07:11] <pricklysponge> ok, i'll try that, yossman
[07:11] <c0rrupt`> in what order
[07:11] <c0rrupt`> =P
[07:11] <genpatton7> tonren: thanks
[07:12] <erisco> dougsko, the halt command gives an option of writing a wtmp log upon shut down
[07:12] <loopout> I've got a question: why don't I have admin priv's in the file browser?  in terminal I do, but not in the file browser!
[07:12] <Tonren> genpatton7: It looks pretty complex... well, maybe just a little.  Good luck!
[07:12] <Tonren> loopout: gksudo nautilus
[07:12] <Lil_Shank> THank you everyone for helping, my modem works now
[07:12] <erisco> to anyone, what is a wtmp? I figure a type of log... any info on that?
[07:12] <loopout> tonren  thanks, i'll try that
[07:12] <Tonren> erisco: What's the context?
[07:12] <Tonren> loopout: no prob
[07:12] <Tonren> Does anyone know how to make trashed files on external media go to the actual trash, instead of a special trash INSIDE the external media?
[07:12] <c0rrupt`> dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure
[07:12] <erisco> Tonren, using -w with the halt command
[07:13] <Jbirk> In Ubuntu, how can I get the gui shutdown
[07:13] <Jbirk> but still be in linux
[07:13] <Jbirk> and just using the console
[07:13] <erisco> Tonren, if it can tell me what happens upon shut down it would help a lot, but I do not know where I would access this log afterwards
[07:13] <Tonren> Jbirk: I feel like it's Ctrl + Alt + Escape or something
[07:13] <pricklysponge> yossman, it tells me "unknown host"
[07:13] <c0rrupt`> --configure ?
[07:13] <ardchoille> Jbirk: ctrl+alt+f1
[07:13] <Tonren> Jbirk: Howcome you want to get rid of X?
[07:13] <yossman> pricklysponge you type that on IRC..
[07:13] <Tonren> ardchoille: Ah, F1, not Esc.
[07:13] <Jbirk> I don't
[07:13] <ardchoille> Tonren: ;)
[07:13] <Jbirk> I just want to be able to get under X at times
[07:14] <stritar> how do i debug network issues? the network is not really working anymore (it says its connected though)
[07:14] <pricklysponge> ho do I get in IRC?
[07:14] <Flannel> pricklysponge: you're in it
[07:14] <Jbirk> Then how do I get back to X?
[07:14] <yossman> pricklysponge, like just while you're talking to us here, try /join #politicalcrossfire
[07:14] <yossman> pricklysponge, you're already on IRC, welcome ;)
[07:14] <Tonren> erisco: The answer to your question is in the first few lines of "man halt"
[07:14] <ardchoille> pricklysponge: You're in it
[07:14] <Tonren> Jbirk: Why don't you just run a terminal?
[07:14] <ardchoille> Jbirk: ctrl+alt+f7
[07:14] <ardchoille> Jbirk: You can consoles in f1 - f6, f7 is the display that the desktop runs on
[07:15] <Jbirk> I usually do
[07:15] <Jbirk> consoles are cool though
[07:15] <yossman> heh
[07:15] <bpont> anyone know how i can determine what's blocking my audio?
[07:16] <GoDawgs>  /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:16] <GoDawgs> no kidding dude
[07:16] <erisco> Tonren, how do I 'read' this log file?
[07:16] <EpP> im getting a lenovo!
[07:16] <damian_> is there a way to have different wallpapers on each desktop?
[07:16] <erisco> Tonren, I am trying to get a log of what is happening when my computer shuts down
[07:16] <genpatton7> tonren: thanks again, bye
[07:16] <Tonren> erisco: A nice, simple way to read something from terminal is by typing "less (filename)"
[07:17] <Koba> yo
[07:17] <Jbirk> CAn I run X more than once?
[07:17] <Jbirk> I.e. can I run X on F7 and F8?
[07:17] <Flannel> Jbirk: sure
[07:17] <Jbirk> wow
[07:17] <Jbirk> How can I do that?
[07:17] <Tonren> erisco: To navigate less, use J and K to go up and down.  Hit / to search for a string.  g brings you to the top of the document, and G brings you to the bottom.
[07:17] <erisco> Tonren, the wtmp file seems to be binary... this certainly isn't what I was going for
[07:17] <cschneid> how do I get the current version of an installed package out of apt-get?
[07:17] <Koba> Sorry to bother you guys, but I really need help.
[07:17] <c0rrupt`> morphix, i think u meant 386
[07:17] <c0rrupt`> not 686
[07:17] <stritar> where can I find a log of installed packages?
[07:17] <stritar> like what the last ones were?
[07:17] <EpP> should i get a hp or lenovo?
[07:17] <stritar> lenovo
[07:17] <c0rrupt`> there we go.
[07:18] <c0rrupt`> working now i think
[07:18] <stritar> ibm/lenovo pwn
[07:18] <Tonren> erisco: Ah, I see.  wtmp isn't a log, but a special file used by the BIOS (I presume) to figure out how to boot up again.
[07:18] <jbroome> i lean towards thinkpads
[07:18] <erisco> oh dear
[07:18] <stritar> thinkpads are ver ywell built
[07:18] <Jbirk> How can I force kill the X server?
[07:18] <erisco> Tonren, I really really hope I did not just mess it up... that would be bad
[07:18] <Jbirk> and kill tasks?
[07:18] <stritar> Is there a package install log anywhere?
[07:18] <Jbirk> Sometimes I open 2 copeis of VLC
[07:18] <Tonren> erisco: Don't worry - less will NEVER harm a file.
[07:18] <EpP> jbroome: the hp is dual core... lenovo is pentium M
[07:18] <PurpleTen> ctrl + z ?
[07:18] <Jbirk> playing the same video and the system hangs
[07:18] <erisco> Tonren, that isn't the problem, It is the fact I wrote something to it
[07:19] <damian_> is there a way to have different wallpapers on each desktop?
[07:19] <erisco> Tonren, using halt -w
[07:19] <jbroome> EpP: i'd still go for the lenovo
[07:19] <Jbirk> what is halt w?
[07:19] <Tonren> erisco: THat shouldn't be a problem, I don't think
[07:19] <erisco> Tonren, how can I get a log of what happens when my computer shuts down? I need to confirm that everything is being stopped
[07:19] <Tonren> Jbirk: "Dont actually reboot or halt but only write the wtmp record (in the /var/log/wtmp file)."
[07:19] <jbroome> i'm on a t42 right now
[07:19] <EpP> jbroome: , ok then... but hp has nvidia... lenovo has ati
[07:19] <scrappy_> damian_: kde is alot more customizable that way
[07:20] <damian_> scrappy_: I know
[07:20] <Jbirk> I just want to know how to kill stuff when the system appears frozen
[07:20] <jbroome> EpP: i'm aware of that
[07:20] <Jbirk> Is there a key combination?
[07:20] <visham> hi folks
[07:20] <Jbirk> CTRL ALT BACKSPACE and CTRL ALT DEL are useless
[07:20] <meeko> How do I download the strings command?
[07:20] <visham> how do i change the font of my console?
[07:20] <EpP> jbroome:  yoour mydecider... lenovoitis
[07:20] <Tonren> erisco: You know, I actually don't know off-hand.  Someone in this room MUST know where the system log lives, though
[07:20] <visham> in gdm off mode
[07:21] <Koba> When I boot up my newly installed ubuntu dapper, I get corrupted video and distorted color lines all over the screen, I have a nVidia 6800GS, and I have heard there are some issues with that card. I found some guides to fix the issue, but I cannot see anything on my screen, so I can't type in any of the commands that are needed to fix the problem. Does anyone have a solution?
[07:21] <erisco> Tonren, well we found the log file for a boot record. I kinda need the other end of it though hehe
[07:21] <stritar> nobody knows how to find out what my last packages installed were?
[07:21] <scrappy_> Koba: alt-ctrl-f2
[07:21] <visham> hey folks
[07:21] <jbroome> stritar: history | grep apt-get
[07:21] <visham> how to change the fonts?
[07:21] <yossman> tonren, re: less will never hurt a file, i've noticed more modern less and more tools have a hotkey that loads the file into vi
[07:21] <Tonren> Koba: Have you tried plugging your monitor into the integrated video output of your motherboard (if applicable)?
[07:21] <yossman> if you're not careful you actually could use 'less' or 'more' to edit a file and not know you were doing it.
[07:21] <visham> Tonren: how to change the screen fonts
[07:21] <stritar> jbroome, will that work if they were updated through the GUI?
[07:22] <visham> Tonren:in the console mode
[07:22] <Tonren> yossman: Even then, Vi won't write to a read-only file.
[07:22] <EpP> k, im off to bed thx jbroome
[07:22] <Koba> scrappy, what does that do? tonren I'll check right now
[07:22] <visham> Tonren: gdm off
[07:22] <yossman> tonren, yes good call
[07:22] <yossman> still, that's a conditional thing ;)
[07:22] <Tonren> visham: I actually don't know what "gdm off" means.  What does that do?
[07:22] <Tonren> yossman: true!
[07:22] <jbroome> stritar: um, no.  kinda forgot people use the gui for pkg mgt. :)
[07:22] <visham> Tonren: that turn off the gnome
[07:22] <scrappy_> Koba: you have a series of console login shells f1-f6 i think by default
[07:22] <Tonren> visham: Hmmm.  I don't know.  Maybe you're stuck with one font.
[07:23] <majd_> could somebody please help me connect my imac to my ubuntu?
[07:23] <majd_> through ssh
[07:23] <majd_> i can't figure it out
[07:23] <majd_> i have openssh-server isntalled
[07:23] <visham> Tonren: how to add fonts then?
[07:23] <majd_> *installed
[07:23] <Tonren> majd_: How are your two computers set up, as far as network goes?
[07:23] <stritar> jbroome, only when it bugs me to update ;)
[07:23] <Koba> thanks a ton scrappy, I got into console, I can fix it now :P
[07:23] <davidrincon2006> this program is a pin
[07:23] <Tonren> visham: I'm not sure.  It may not be possible.
[07:23] <davidrincon2006> pain
[07:23] <Tonren> Koba: What does that hotkey do, anyway?
[07:23] <stritar> jbroome, my networking stopped working over the weekend on my server and i'm trying to figure out wh
[07:23] <stritar> why*
[07:23] <Koba> this will be my solid switch from shitty windows to linux :P
[07:23] <majd_> Tonren, well, right now for testing purposes, they're on a LAN (although i'm trying to access it using my public ip
[07:23] <visham> hey anyone expert in fonts in here
[07:23] <UpMarc> hi all
[07:23] <Tonren> majd_: Are they both connected to the same router?
[07:23] <davidrincon2006> hi all
[07:24] <Koba> tonren, it switches from x11 to console
[07:24] <majd_> Tonren, yeah
[07:24] <UpMarc> can someone help me with the installation of an application?
[07:24] <Tonren> majd_: There is your problem!  When you try to access a computer using the WAN (public) IP, the router doesn't know which computer to forward the request to.
[07:24] <onelife151> morning
[07:24] <stritar> jbroome, there is no central log for apt?
[07:24] <onelife151> what application in partiuclar
[07:24] <UpMarc> onelife151: jahshaka
[07:24] <majd_> Tonren, but i made port 93 forward to my ubuntu machine
[07:24] <Tonren> majd_: There are two solutions.  1) Connect using your LAN IP (the one starting with 192.168), or 2) Set up port forwarding on your router.  Since you are just testing, 1 is --  ah.
[07:25] <Tonren> majd_: So, what error message do you get?
[07:25] <Flannel> majd_: do you have sshd listening on 93?
[07:25] <majd_> sftp is ssh right?
[07:25] <UpMarc> u run the sudo apt-get install jahshaka up to the end
[07:25] <visham> hey anyone expert in fonts in here
[07:25] <Tonren> majd_: You may also be experiencing problems because sometimes, when you try to access your public IP address, your DNS server says, "That's yourself, you jerk," and you never actually get to the router.  In other words, sometimes it "Defualts" to localhost.
[07:25] <UpMarc> but cannot find it anywhere
[07:26] <morphix> majd_: if ur modem/router has a built in firewall it might block u trying to get back through ur network, since its similar activity to that of a land attack
[07:26] <visham> i need to change the console fonts in here
[07:26] <majd_> Flannel, in my router's settings, i have app 'ssh' forwarding ports 91-95 to my local ip
[07:26] <majd_> morphix, hmmm
[07:26] <majd_> the problem is
[07:26] <ardchoille> UpMarc: That app isn't in the repos, which is why apt-get cannot find it
[07:26] <majd_> i can't test it
[07:26] <Tonren> visham: You can change them in gnome-terminal, but I don't nkow about gdm off.  Why do you need to change the font?
[07:26] <jbroome> !u
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about u - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <majd_> unless i'm in the same house
[07:26] <meeko> How do I download the strings command?
[07:26] <majd_> should i try testing it with local ips
[07:26] <Tonren> meeko: What is the context of that problem?
[07:26] <visham> Tonren: i am bored with the default one
[07:26] <Tonren> majd_: Yeah.  Narrow it down
[07:26] <Flannel> majd_: First get it working with local IPs, then port forwarding should be a drop in replacement
[07:27] <majd_> but, what username and password should i use?
[07:27] <Tonren> visham: Unfortunately, the console can be boring.  If you want to change things around, it's best to stick with GNOME.
[07:27] <majd_> the ones i use for logging in at bootup?
[07:27] <UpMarc> ardchoille: I'm new to all this... what shall I do, then?
[07:27] <slid3r> can anyone tell me what k3b needs to convert an mp3 to cda?
[07:27] <visham> Tonren:isn't there a way to change the fonts
[07:27] <Tonren> majd_: That, or you can create a new user.
[07:27] <Tonren> visham: Not that I know of.
[07:27] <ardchoille> UpMarc: Your options are: 1. Try to find an Ubuntu .deb for it 2. Compile it yourself.
[07:27] <majd_> hmm
[07:28] <majd_> the application "quits unexpectedly" when i try to connect
[07:28] <meeko> I need the GNU strings command, but it's not in apt-get, and I have all the repositories
[07:28] <Tonren> majd_: This is when you're typing "ssh 192.168.2.***"?
[07:28] <majd_> yeah
[07:28] <meeko> I suspect that it may be in some larger package
[07:28] <morphix> ssh user@ip
[07:28] <Flannel> majd_: what client are you using?
[07:28] <majd_> Tonren, one second
[07:28] <morphix> ^^
[07:28] <Tonren> meeko: Is this to compile a particular program?
[07:28] <UpMarc> ardchoille: I also have the .deb file, but must learn how to compile it
[07:28] <majd_> i'm trying it through terminal
[07:28] <majd_> Flannel, Transmit (mac)
[07:28] <morphix> majd_: its ssh user@ip
[07:29] <Flannel> majd_: is transmit a ssh client? ;)
[07:29] <meeko> Tonren: nope, it's just to use the command from the shell
[07:29] <Flannel> majd_: and yeah, you log in with your ubuntu user details
[07:29] <majd_> Flannel, my understanding was that sftp=ssh
[07:29] <scrappy_> slid3r: i forget what its called just apt-cache search mp3 | grep kde
[07:29] <ardchoille> UpMarc: Are you sure that .deb file is for Ubuntu? It's not good to use .deb packages which were made for other distros.
[07:29] <visham> hey folks any one know which channel deals with networks?
[07:29] <Flannel> majd_: sftp is related to ssh.  they arent the same thing
[07:30] <majd_> i'm trying it through terminal right now
[07:30] <slid3r> thanks
[07:30] <UpMarc> ardchoille: I'm sure about it
[07:30] <majd_> IIRC it takes a while to establish a connection
[07:30] <Tonren> majd_: It shouldn't... not on a LAN
[07:30] <majd_> i dont' need to specify port if i'm connecting through LAN right?
[07:30] <UpMarc> it was indicated in the site....
[07:30] <Tonren> majd_: You shouldn't need to specify a port at all if everything is set up default.
[07:30] <Tonren> meeko: Hmm.. I'm having trouble finding a download, too.  Weird.
[07:30] <carthik> Can I use evolution to read mail that I currently read with mutt. The mail is already procmail+fetchmailed to my local box?
[07:31] <ardchoille> UpMarc: If you're sure it was made for Ubuntu, open a terminal and do:  sudo dpkg -i /path/file.deb
[07:31] <majd_> ok, i get nothing
[07:31] <majd_> wait
[07:31] <jbroome> meeko: binutils is what you're looking for
[07:31] <Tonren> meeko: You know, I have the command.
[07:31] <Tonren> meeko: jbroome's probably right
[07:31] <majd_> i have to authenticate
[07:31] <UpMarc> ardchoille: ok... I'll try it
[07:31] <majd_> weird
[07:32] <gfxstyler> hi
[07:32] <majd_> it asked me a yes/no question
[07:32] <majd_> then it added the ip to my known hosts
[07:32] <jbroome> i must have gotten it through build-essential
[07:32] <majd_> and then it closed the connection
[07:32] <Tonren> majd_: Odd that it closed the connection.
[07:32] <jbroome> keys don't match?
[07:32] <majd_> is my RSA key fingerprint sensitive info?
[07:32] <Tonren> majd_: Would you mind PMing me with your IP so I can see what happens?
[07:33] <cdew4545> morphix:  hey, im back with another question on my Dwl-520 wireless problem
[07:33] <end_us> !tell end_us about sudo
[07:34] <morphix> cdew4545:?
[07:34] <cdew4545> morphix:  at the beginning of the help document you gave me.... its said CONFIG_NET_RADIO option must be enabled
[07:34] <meeko> thanks!  jbroome and Tonren, installing binutils worked
[07:34] <Tonren> meeko: noice.
[07:34] <cdew4545> but when i got to that part of the instructions it failed and said it wasnt enabled
[07:34] <stritar> anyone know how to check what version of forcedeth is installed?
[07:35] <Tonren> stritar: forcedeth -v??? not sure
[07:35] <morphix> cdew4545: i dont know, i never used that card, i am just passing a help guide on
[07:35] <stritar> its a kernal module
[07:36] <vegalabs> hi, strange problem. my system is able to play flash perfectly with sound, but no other system sounds play. i cannot play songs, nothing. not even the ubuntu gdm start up sounds work. just flash. (very recent development). is this a known problem with a known fix?
[07:36] <Tonren> Does anyone know how to make trashed files on external media go to the actual trash, instead of a special trash INSIDE the external media?
[07:36] <c0rrupt`> im trying out the WASTE secure linux client.. but getting this error when run.. libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.5.so.3
[07:36] <c0rrupt`> anyone know the -exact- library i need to install
[07:36] <stritar> i can't even find out what package forcedeth is in
[07:36] <stritar> bah
[07:37] <cdew4545> morphix:  ok, but do you know about enabling that option?
[07:37] <c0rrupt`> libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.5.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:37] <due> bah, is there any way to make gnome terminal utf-8/unicode?
[07:38] <cdew4545> morphix:  sorry to single you out for the questions, but you just seemed like a good source
[07:38] <meeko> logout
[07:38] <morphix> cdew4545: unfortunately not. i'll take a look tho
[07:38] <Madpilot> due, Ubuntu is UTF8 by default, AFAIK
[07:39] <vegalabs> and the sound appear to be playing, but no sound is actually generated. only flash managed to produce something.
[07:39] <morphix> cdew4545: what part of the guide does it give u an error?
[07:39] <due> Madpilot: hm, gnome terminal is having some issues displaying general accented characters
[07:39] <Madpilot> due, really? I've had all sorts of oddball characters displayed in gnome-term, never seen any issues
[07:40] <due> might just be the programming i'm running out of the terminal.
[07:40] <karl> on my xubuntu laptop, when I plug in my network card and look in dmesg, it tells me that acpi turned off my pcimcia card slot. This only happens with a broadcom card; an orinoco works fine. Any idea what is up?
[07:40] <UpMarc> ardchoille: add/remove says jahshaka is installed, but i cannot find it anywhere :-(
[07:41] <morphix> karl: is it a bcm43xx chipset?
[07:41] <Goblyn> my sound will only allow on thing to play at once, if i have a song and i get an IM, it doesn't play this IM, or if i get an IM as a song is starting, the song won't make any sound, any idea's how to fix this?
[07:41] <karl> no
[07:41] <UpMarc> ardchoille: (in advanced options)
[07:41] <karl> rt2500
[07:41] <ardchoille> UpMarc: ok
[07:41] <orasis1> Has anyone had experience with XFCE4 menu's that just stop working?
[07:41] <Jbirk> good night
[07:41] <orasis1> Worked fine before I went to sleep, I want up - and no go
[07:41] <karl> orasis, yes
[07:42] <orasis1> wake up even*
[07:42] <due> Madpilot: ah, thanks. appears to be the program, bah.
[07:42] <karl> orasis, this has happened to me twice
[07:42] <Tonren> orasis1: Were you trying to edit it?
[07:42] <orasis1> Karl, how did you fix it?
[07:42] <phx198> Anyone familiar with dvd::rip?  I'm not sure what goes in the "cdrecord device (n,n,n or fliename)" field.
[07:42] <Madpilot> due, ah - too bad
[07:42] <orasis1> Ton, No I was sleeping and it worked fine when I went to bed..
[07:42] <Tonren> Does anyone know how to make trashed files on external media go to the actual trash, instead of a special trash INSIDE the external media?
[07:42] <cdew4545> morphix:  right at the dpkg -i hostap-modules-XXXXX.deb instruction
[07:42] <karl> orasis1: i fixed it by removing ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml
[07:43] <karl> that worked once
[07:43] <ardchoille> UpMarc: Type: which jahshaka  and tell me what is says
[07:43] <karl> the next time it happened that file was gone
[07:43] <karl> so I reinstalled :(
[07:43] <Tonren> karl: lame...
[07:43] <drako> server irc.blitzed.org
[07:43] <karl> for sure
[07:43] <drako> oops
[07:43] <karl> but I needed to be back up quick
[07:43] <karl> and it was faster to reinstall in a half hour than fiddle around until I got it to work
[07:44] <cdew4545> morphix:  i found some help to enable that so Im going to go try that, but thanks for putting up with me haha
[07:44] <karl> Tonren: if you do a shift-delete it will delete the file instead of trashing it
[07:44] <karl> but maybe you don't want that
[07:44] <Tonren> karl: I think taht could work... also there's an option to include a "Delete (bypass trash)" context menu item
[07:44] <Tonren> karl: It should be smart enough to figure it out by itself though.  That is extremely unexpected behavior
[07:45] <Goblyn> my sound will only allow on thing to play at once, if i have a song and i get an IM, it doesn't play this IM, or if i get an IM as a song is starting, the song won't make any sound, any idea's how to fix this?
[07:45] <karl> is it on another drive, or on a remote machine (samba)?
[07:45] <karl> I haven't had that happen before
[07:46] <thundr> Goblyn, is it a first-gen sound blaster 16?  Because that's normal then.
[07:46] <UpMarc> ardchoille: 2.Orc3 (Installed)
[07:46] <ardchoille> UpMarc: Type: which jahshaka  and tell me what is says
[07:46] <majd_> ok, i'll try to connect from school
[07:46] <majd_> i have to go to sleep now
[07:46] <majd_> good night
[07:46] <majd_> thanks for the help
[07:46] <ubuntu_realuser> hey
[07:47] <ubuntu_realuser> i have ubuntu installed to my hd
[07:47] <UpMarc> ardchoille: jahshaka_2.0rc3_i386.deb
[07:47] <karl> when i run a dmesg after plugging in my ralink card into my pcmcia bus I get a pci interupt disabling the port due to acpi. anyone know how to change this?
[07:47] <orasis1> Karl, yeah I am hoping I do not have to re-install, because I just did and that is what started to happen before I had to re-install last time...
[07:47] <ubuntu_realuser> and i want to backup some files
[07:47] <ubuntu_realuser> through the live cd
[07:47] <orasis1> Well if it happens again, I will simply abandon XFCE for Gnome or something else
[07:47] <ubuntu_realuser> but im getting an error when i try to access the drive
[07:47] <karl> that is what I was thinking
[07:47] <ubuntu_realuser> can any1 help
[07:47] <thundr> ubuntu_realuser, what is the error?
[07:47] <karl> i am a fluxbox user in general; i've been thinking of going that way
[07:47] <ardchoille> UpMarc: You aren't doing what I asked you to do
[07:47] <Goblyn> thundr: nope
[07:47] <ubuntu_realuser> device /dev/sda1 is not removable
[07:47] <Tonren> karl: fluxbox was too hardcore for me.  I stuck with GNOME.
[07:47] <thundr> Goblyn, what kind of card is it?
[07:47] <ubuntu_realuser> and
[07:48] <ubuntu_realuser> could not execute pmount
[07:48] <karl> GNOME isn't bad
[07:48] <karl> very pretty
[07:48] <Tonren> karl: I tried out Xfce, but it had some serious usability flaws that eventually drove me back to GNOME
[07:48] <karl> Tonren: agreed
[07:48] <Tonren> karl: KDE was great for a while, but it clobbered my GNOME, and it was very, VERY bloated
[07:48] <karl> I think it is just XFCE4 for ubuntu
[07:48] <carthik> Can I use evolution to read mail that I currently read with mutt. The mail is already procmail+fetchmailed to my local box?
[07:48] <karl> I have used xfce4 on gentoo, and it seems much better
[07:48] <UpMarc> ardchoille: I'm brand new to all this.... then I'm really not understanding what you want me to do :-(
[07:48] <ubuntu_realuser> any ideas thundr
[07:49] <scrappy_> Tonren: tried since breezy? xfce in dapper is better imo
[07:49] <morphix> karl: i use xfce4 on ubuntu (since i have xubuntu) and mines perfect.
[07:49] <karl> morphix: i'm happy to hear it is working
[07:49] <morphix> using dapper btw
[07:49] <UpMarc> ardchoille: where do you want me to look for that?
[07:49] <thundr> ubuntu_realuser, what are you using to backup the files?
[07:49] <karl> morphix: try changing your background, making a background list
[07:49] <karl> i am as well
[07:49] <Tonren> scrappy_: Yeah, I used Dapper.  It was really great!  I used it for a good month or so.  I don't actually remember what drove me back to GNOME, but it was something simple yet impossible in Xfce4.
[07:49] <ardchoille> UpMarc: Open a terminal. In the terminal, type this:  which jahshaka
[07:49] <ubuntu_realuser> i just want to copy and paste them onto my external hd
[07:49] <ardchoille> UpMarc: That will give you a path to the binary.
[07:49] <karl> Tonren: chances are you are still using dapper
[07:49] <karl> :)
[07:50] <Tonren> karl: There are reasons to stay with Breezy?
[07:50] <karl> neg.
[07:50] <karl> I don't think so
[07:50] <Koba> woah
[07:50] <gfxstyler> is there any command in bash to remove the first 3 lines of a textfile?
[07:50] <UpMarc> it says: /usr/bin/jahshaka
[07:50] <Koba> wierd, I don't even have a xorg.conf file...
[07:50] <karl> gfxstyler: try #bash
[07:50] <Koba> after a brand new installation of ubuntu...
[07:50] <gfxstyler> karl:  thanks
[07:50] <UpMarc> ardchoille: what I do next?
[07:50] <ardchoille> UpMarc: Good, now in the terminal, type this to run jahshaka:  /usr/bin/jahshaka
[07:50] <karl> Koba: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:51] <ubuntu_realuser> and if i try to mount it int erminal
[07:51] <Canute> I got my wireless working earlier today with Network Manager, so after a while i plugged a normal cable into it, had some small problems but it seemed to work. However, now I want to change back and the Network Manager only shows "Wired Network" grayed out.. if i right click, it shows Enable Networking, but not Enable Wireless. My wireless card is activated, so is there any simple solution?
[07:51] <ubuntu_realuser> i get  can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:51] <karl> Canute: is this a laptop?
[07:51] <Tonren> Canute: In my experience Network Manager is the personification of suck
[07:51] <esteban> hola
[07:51] <karl> Tonren: roger that
[07:51] <Canute> karl: indeed
[07:51] <karl> Canute: take your wireless card out of the slot, unplug the cable, and push it back in
[07:52] <ubuntu_realuser> i just want to access the harddrive through the livecd
[07:52] <karl> Canute: it is likely it will just autoconnect
[07:52] <ubuntu_realuser> but i cant
[07:52] <XiXaQ> hmm
[07:52] <UpMarc> ardchoille:bash: run: command not found
[07:52] <morphix> ubuntu_realuser: what fs?
[07:52] <Canute> karl: uhm, wireless card? It's an internal card.
[07:52] <karl> ahh
[07:52] <karl> Canute
[07:52] <ubuntu_realuser> ext3
[07:53] <ardchoille> UpMarc: What did you type into the terminal?
[07:53] <ubuntu_realuser> or maybe ext2
[07:53] <scrappy_> Canute: ifconfig iwlist iwconfig dhclient you should get comfortable with those tools
[07:53] <davidrincon2006> hello
[07:53] <Tonren> karl: Is there a way to actually just permanently disable Network Manager?
[07:53] <karl> Canute: messege me the output of "sudo ifconfig"
[07:53] <XiXaQ> Canute: try this. I'm not sure It'll work, but it might. System > Networking.. Select Default Gateway device...
[07:53] <davidrincon2006> hola amigos!!!
[07:53] <orasis1> Perhaps it is something to do with the screensaver I used.. ..
[07:53] <karl> Tonren: iunno
 amigos
[07:53] <ubuntu_realuser> whatever default ubuntu fs is
[07:53] <UpMarc> ardchoille:  run jahshaka: /usr/bin/jahshaka
[07:53] <Canute> XiXaQ: i have lots of times ;)
[07:53] <Tonren> karl: because it hinders WAY more than it helps.  It's gotta be the buggiest freaking GUI ever
[07:53] <orasis1> I cannot even access the right click menu.. grrrr
[07:53] <ardchoille> UpMarc: just type: /usr/bin/jahshaka
[07:53] <davidrincon2006> any gOOD PROGRAMS THAT I CAN DOWNLOAD?
[07:53] <karl> i'm just used to command
[07:53] <davidrincon2006> I AM NEW WITH UBUNTU
[07:54] <orasis1> Tonren, what is the buggiest GUI ever?
[07:54] <morphix> ubuntu_realuser: have u gone to "Disks" in Administration?? u can mount in there aswell
[07:54] <Tonren> davidrincon2006: Please don't type in all caps
[07:54] <Tonren> orasis1: Network Manager
[07:54] <scrappy_> davidrincon2006: congrats
[07:54] <jbroome_> !caps
[07:54] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:54] <orasis1> ahh ok
[07:54] <davidrincon2006> SoRrY
[07:54] <phx198> davidrincon2006:  What sort of of progs are you looking for?
[07:54] <playtime3> hi i want to install a antivirus program, from synaptic. Which one is good?
[07:54] <phx198> playtime3: clamAV
[07:54] <jbroome_> f-prot and clamav are nice
[07:54] <ardchoille> clamav
[07:54] <Madpilot> davidrincon2006, there's about 18,000 programs in Ubuntu's repositories, that'll keep you busy for a while
[07:54] <davidrincon2006> is there any programs that can improve performance?
[07:54] <davidrincon2006> of ubuntu
[07:54] <ardchoille> Madpilot: lol
[07:55] <tyler_d> anyone know how to get dual monitors working?
[07:55] <ubuntu_realuser> i cant mount it there either
[07:55] <scrappy_> i never had virus problems when i used windows cant imagine with linux
[07:55] <morphix> tyler_d: what video card??
[07:55] <Madpilot> ardchoille, s/programs/packages, to be strictly accurate, but whatever ;)
[07:55] <phx198> davidrincon2006:  performance? ...  what's not working like you would like it to?
[07:55] <playtime3> Cool, thanks I will install that
[07:55] <tyler_d> morphix: radeon 9600
[07:55] <ardchoille> :)
[07:55] <davidrincon2006> repositories????? where the hec is that?
[07:55] <Goblyn> what port does Ekiga use?
[07:55] <morphix> tyler_d: have u installed fglrx?
[07:55] <jbroome_> i get lots of emails that say they can improve my performance
[07:56] <Canute> karl: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20637
[07:56] <morphix> !ati > tyler_d
[07:56] <tyler_d> morphix: no, would you walk me through that.... I have installed all of the binary drivers
[07:56] <ardchoille> Madpilot: I liked the "that'll keep you busy" part
[07:56] <scrappy_> davidrincon2006: wiki.ubuntu.com is handy for general questions like mp3 play back etc
[07:56] <alienseer23> hello, I was wondering if anybody knew if there is a version of bitpim, or a similar program available for linux/ubuntu (it is a cell phone utility)
[07:56] <Madpilot> davidrincon2006, when you install stuff thru Add/Remove Apps or Synaptic, they're coming from Ubuntu's online repositories
[07:56] <davidrincon2006> i cannot burn dvds
[07:56] <davidrincon2006> or cds
[07:57] <playtime3> !samba
[07:57] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:57] <Madpilot> davidrincon2006, really? You don't get a popup when you put a blank CD-R in your burner?
[07:57] <UpMarc> ardchoille: it has openned the jahshaka... ty.... but it seems not to be what I was waiting for :-(
[07:57] <davidrincon2006> mmm let me try
[07:57] <ardchoille> UpMarc: Glad it is running. Well, maybe you can find what you need. What exactly are you wanting to do?
[07:58] <Goblyn> does anyone know what port does Ekiga use?
[07:58] <davidrincon2006> nah nothing happen
[07:58] <scrappy_> davidrincon2006: check out k3b too. its interface is sort of like nero
[07:58] <tyler_d> !ati
[07:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:58] <thundr> alienseer23, there is a version for linux, not sure if there's a package for ubuntu (or debian), but you can install from source
[07:58] <davidrincon2006> i am trying to burn a DVD
[07:58] <ardchoille> UpMarc: Are you wanting to just play music? Or make your own music?
[07:58] <Canute> wops
[07:58] <Canute> haha
[07:58] <Madpilot> davidrincon2006, blank DVDs should get a popup too, asking if you want to burn a DVD
[07:58] <alienseer23> thundr, no kidding? its on sourceforge?
[07:58] <Canute> wrong button
[07:58] <Madpilot> Canute, kill the np script, thanks
[07:58] <ardchoille> Canute: I'd say
[07:58] <alienseer23> I didn't see it, will go look again
[07:58] <Canute> np :p
[07:59] <thundr> alienseer23, yeah, if not there, then something like bitpm.org
[07:59] <davidrincon2006> no it doesn't say anything
[07:59] <UpMarc> ardchoille: I want and editing films, clips and video application, so that I can mount the clips the way I like
[07:59] <alienseer23> cooooooool
[07:59] <alienseer23> Thank you very much
[07:59] <thundr> alienseer23, just out of curiousity, what phone are you using it with?
[07:59] <Madpilot> davidrincon2006, do normal CDs get automounted?
[07:59] <ubuntu_realuser> ok im trying to do this
[07:59] <ubuntu_realuser>  sudo mount -t ext3  /dev/sda1 /recovery -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[07:59] <thundr> alienseer23, no problem
[07:59] <ubuntu_realuser> but it says ext3 is not a fs
[07:59] <UpMarc> I used to do that with WMM (I want its correpondent for Ubuntu)
[07:59] <ardchoille> UpMarc: I understand.. but I don't know any apps for that. Maybe someone here can point you in the right direction for film editing apps
[07:59] <ubuntu_realuser> so what do i type instead of ext3
[07:59] <alienseer23> it's a samsung ...ehhhh hang on
[08:00] <tyler_d> binary drivers are insatlled for radeon 9600.... anyone know anything about getting multiple monitors working?
[08:00] <alienseer23> thundr, samsung A840
[08:00] <morphix> tyler_d: i have multiple monitors on my 9800
[08:00] <UpMarc> ardchoille: never mind, I must have taken the wrong .deb from a list.... I'll try the others
[08:00] <ardchoille> Which apps are available for film editing? UpMarc needs this info
[08:00] <davidrincon2006> i doesnt work
[08:01] <davidrincon2006> how can i burn cd or dvds
[08:01] <ubuntu_realuser> any1?
[08:01] <tyler_d> morphix: how did you get them working?
[08:01] <scrappy_> davidrincon2006: k3b or gnomebaker
[08:01] <Madpilot> davidrincon2006, when you put a blank CD or DVD in your burner, does it show up in the file manager?
[08:01] <davidrincon2006> no, no file manager
[08:01] <davidrincon2006> nothing happens
[08:01] <morphix> tyler_d: using fglrx-config
[08:01] <morphix> tyler_d: install fglrx-control and use that do set it up
[08:02] <UpMarc> ardchoille: all help I could get on this took me to a list.... then another list... nobody told me "take this application.deb file
[08:02] <Madpilot> davidrincon2006, Places->Home Folder, CD-R or DVD-R should show up at the bottom of the list
[08:02] <UpMarc> ardchoille: always from list to list
[08:02] <davidrincon2006> no i cant see it
[08:03] <Madpilot> davidrincon2006, odd - it looks like your system isn't auto-mounting stuff. What happens when you put an audio CD in?
[08:03] <robert_> does anybody have experience with configuring krb5 on ubuntu?
[08:03] <UpMarc> ardchoille: I just don't understand why I cannot see what is installed in my app list
[08:03] <ardchoille> UpMarc: Most of the time you will be referred to a webpage, you'll need to do some reading on your own to improve your Ubuntu skills :)
[08:03] <Madpilot> davidrincon2006, or an existing data CD
[08:03] <Tonren> Hey guys, how can you make the Winkey open the Applications menu?
[08:03] <ivx> hey when i try to install a program and get to the make part in the terminal it always says "bash: make: command not found" anyone know whats up with that
[08:03] <playtime3> ok i've just intall clamAV how do scan my computer
[08:03] <Madpilot> ivx, have you installed build-essential?
[08:03] <davidrincon2006> o wait now it is running (CD)
[08:03] <karl> ivx, you need build-essential
[08:03] <ardchoille> UpMarc: Sometimes, the author of the app may forget to add a menuitem for a certain app.
[08:04] <ivx> no i am newbie how do i do that madpilot
[08:04] <davidrincon2006> now it opened a cd/dvd creator
[08:04] <UpMarc> ardchoille: I tryed... but a so brand new user may let something escape....
[08:04] <david___> hi!
[08:04] <Canute> i think i've found the problem, somehow, the network refuses (through the gui) to set eth1 as defualt gateway, is it possible to do that with a command?
[08:04] <Madpilot> ivx, if you're a newbie, why are you messing with compiling? There's a massive amount of stuff in Ubuntu's repos...
[08:04] <playtime3> ok i've just intall clamAV how do scan my computer?
[08:04] <tyler_d> morphix: how do I run the control once it is installed
[08:04] <davidrincon2006> what do i do now
[08:04] <Madpilot> davidrincon2006, cool, was it just really slow to start?
[08:04] <ivx> i am trying to install a program, i am following supplied instructions
[08:04] <ardchoille> UpMarc: What is your native language?
[08:05] <Madpilot> ivx, which program?
[08:05] <morphix> tyler_d: sudo fglrx-control from a terminal
[08:05] <davidrincon2006> can i jus t drag and drop?
[08:05] <UpMarc> ardchoille: lol.... Portuguese.... why? :-)
[08:05] <ivx> ndiswrapper to get my wifi card to work
[08:05] <ubuntu>  hey, i'm trying to use ubuntu to recover some data from an old windows pc.. i can mount the drives and access them but i can't write to
[08:05] <ubuntu>                 them. i tried to enable samba through System -> Administration -> Shared Folders but it freezes during the installation... any ideas of a
[08:05] <ubuntu>                 way around this?
[08:05] <Madpilot> davidrincon2006, yes, just drag & drop, there's a Burn button on the top-right
[08:05] <davidrincon2006> ok
[08:05] <playtime3> !clamAV
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clamAV - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <ardchoille> UpMarc: I was thinking that there may be a portuguese Ubuntu channel that may be better for you
[08:05] <Madpilot> !pt
[08:05] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[08:05] <ubuntu> sorry about the flood i copied and pasted wrong.. asked in ##linux first.. sorry
[08:05] <tyler_d> morphix: command not found... package is installed though
[08:05] <davidrincon2006> thank you, but now how can i see the hard drive from windows
[08:05] <ardchoille> Madpilot: Thank you :)
[08:05] <morphix> ubuntu: linux doesnt have native ntfs write support
[08:06] <morphix> tyler_d: hmm..
[08:06] <ubuntu> morphix: it's a vfat drive that i'm trying to access
[08:06] <ubuntu_realuser> nobody knows the answer/
[08:06] <Madpilot> ivx, ndiswrapper is in Ubuntu's repos
[08:06] <davidrincon2006> i got anohter hard drive with the files
[08:06] <davidrincon2006> but it is NTFS
[08:06] <UpMarc> ardchoille: there is #ubuntu-br... but all sleeping now.... and they are very few either....
[08:06] <ivx> whats repos
[08:06] <Madpilot> davidrincon2006, are you trying to see a Windows HDD from Ubuntu?
[08:06] <davidrincon2006> yeah
[08:06] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell ivx about repos
[08:06] <ardchoille> UpMarc: Oh, ok
[08:07] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell davidrincon2006 about ntfs
[08:07] <davidrincon2006> is it possible
[08:07] <UpMarc> ardchoille: I was there until the last one went away
[08:07] <Madpilot> davidrincon2006 & ivx - check your PMs & follow those URLs ;)
[08:07] <UpMarc> ardchoille: before coming here
[08:07] <ubuntu_realuser> Madpilot, can u help me with mounting
[08:07] <morphix> tyler_d: actually use aticonfig instead
[08:07] <Madpilot> ubuntu_realuser, if it's an ntfs drive, do /msg ubotu ntfs
[08:08] <nearfar> has anyone here followed the instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/iPodVideoTransferring and found gtkpod not working for video?
[08:08] <nearfar> iPod Video in Ubuntu
[08:08] <ubuntu_realuser> its an ext3 drive
[08:08] <ivx> thanks
[08:08] <nearfar> my gtkpod-aac version is 0.99.2-0ubuntu4, but the wiki page says it must be 0.99.4
[08:08] <ardchoille> UpMarc: Also, check out http://ubuntuforums.org  That is one of the best forums I have ever seen :)
[08:08] <ubuntu_realuser> im on a livecd and it wont mount the ubuntu installed on my hard drive
[08:08] <karl> where can i edit my grub.conf?
[08:08] <karl> where is it in ubuntu?
[08:08] <nearfar> I don't get 'video' list as show in the screenshot (gtkpod) - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/iPodVideoTransferring
[08:08] <tyler_d> morphix: what extention should I put on that to configure that?
[08:08] <Flannel> karl: /boot/grub/
[08:08] <Madpilot> ubuntu_realuser, odd, I thought the LiveCD would auto-mount ext3 partitions now - guess not
[08:09] <UpMarc> ardchoille: I'll try the jahshaka1s forum.... and also the one you mentioned... but very many thanks anyway
[08:09] <ubuntu_realuser> ya it gives me an error saying it cant mount it
[08:09] <ubuntu_realuser> so i guess i have to dl knoppix
[08:09] <karl> Flannel: it isnt there...that is where I looked first
[08:09] <davidrincon2006> hey guys
[08:10] <davidrincon2006> thank you
[08:10] <davidrincon2006> it works
[08:10] <Flannel> karl: it's menu.lst not grub.conf
[08:10] <argument> !flash
[08:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:10] <davidrincon2006> hey is it possible to play games from windows in here?
[08:10] <karl> Flannel: thx
[08:10] <Madpilot> ubuntu_realuser, open a terminal, do "df" - does the partition you want to mount show up there?
[08:10] <morphix> tyler_d: should be just fine to aticonfig
[08:10] <ardchoille> UpMarc: You're welcome :)
[08:10] <argument> davidrincon2006, yes of course
[08:10] <argument> davidrincon2006, cedega is probably what you want
[08:10] <davidrincon2006> how?
[08:10] <ubuntu_realuser> no
[08:10] <Madpilot> davidrincon2006, some games, thru wine or Cedega, yes. There are Linux ports of popular games, too
[08:11] <UpMarc> ardchoile: good-bye then... gone....
[08:11] <morphix> tyler_d: the last time i set mine up was a while ago.. been working fine for ages, so i cant remember exactly all teh commands
[08:11] <davidrincon2006> cadega where can i get it?
[08:11] <Madpilot> ubuntu_realuser, hmm, if it's not showing up in df, I'm not sure what's wrong
[08:11] <Goblyn> how do i add a script to iptables?
[08:11] <ubuntu_realuser> can u post ur /etc/fstab to the pastebin
[08:11] <Madpilot> davidrincon2006, cedega is payware
[08:11] <argument> davidrincon2006, yeah either use Cedega or buy the Linux version... Quake has a linux port... UT2004 is crossplatform and comes with a Linux and Windows version
[08:11] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell davidrincon2006 about cedega
[08:11] <ubuntu_realuser> i might be able to figure it out if i can see what arguments its supposed to have
[08:11] <argument> Madpilot, davidrincon2006 yeah but it's only like $6
[08:12] <scrappy_> Goblyn: installl firestarter until your comfortable doing it manually
[08:12] <argument> if you're willing to spend $40 on the game you can spend $6 to run it in linux :)
[08:12] <Madpilot> ubuntu_realuser, mine? Sure, just a sec.
[08:12] <scrappy_> Goblyn: sorry didnt read question fully
[08:12] <rlaptop> hey all
[08:12] <tyler_d> morphix: canada tv's are pal-a-b-c-d etc or ntsc??
[08:13] <rlaptop> is anyone using cgwd themer? i need some help applying it, i don't know how to exactly
[08:13] <morphix> tyler_d: assume ntsc since its in the region
[08:13] <Madpilot> ubuntu_realuser, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20641 - if that'll help - note that my HDD is SATA
[08:13] <ubuntu_realuser> what filesystem do u run
[08:14] <ubuntu_realuser> ok ext3
[08:14] <Goblyn> how do i add a script to iptables?
[08:14] <argument> !nvidia
[08:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:14] <Madpilot> ubuntu_realuser, it's all ext3
[08:14] <rlaptop> !cgwd
[08:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cgwd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <carthik> What does "Expunge" in Evolution do, actually?
[08:14] <ubuntu_realuser> yep i got it
[08:14] <ubuntu_realuser> thanks for the pastebin
[08:14] <Madpilot> ubuntu_realuser, np
[08:14] <ubuntu_realuser> i had to mount it to a dir
[08:15] <Madpilot> ubuntu_realuser, yeah, you've got to specify a mount point
[08:15] <ubuntu_realuser> so i did a mount -t ext3 /madedir
[08:15] <rlaptop> can anyone help me apply the cgwd themes?  i have cgwd themer in my system preferences, but i don't know how to apply them
[08:15] <ubuntu_realuser> ya
[08:15] <scrappy_> Goblyn: ive heard of scripts to configure iptable rules maybe you could explain a little more
[08:15] <rockzman> can someone help me to set my nvidia able to openGL?
[08:15] <rlaptop> rockzman, are you trying to use xgl or something?
[08:15] <ubuntu_realuser> so can i write to this mount point?
[08:16] <Awesome-o2000> is icmp disabled in iptables for ubuntu by default? I dont seem to be able to get a successful traceroute
[08:16] <rockzman> rlaptop: um actually my graphics driver is working fine i see a "nvidia" greeting before gdm but OpenGL is not workin do you know why?
[08:16] <Goblyn> scrappy_: i dunno, Ekiga told me to add a script to iptables
[08:16] <rlaptop> rockzman, here's a good site that might help you with nvidia: http://tazforum.thetazzone.com/viewtopic.php?t=2189
[08:16] <scrappy_> Goblyn: what are you trying to do?
[08:16] <Madpilot> ubuntu_realuser, you should be able to - I'm not an expert, though
[08:16] <rlaptop> not sure, i have intel or ati, and haven't had any kind of problem like that.
[08:16] <Goblyn> scrappy_: just get Ekiga to work
[08:17] <davidrincon2006> The selected location does not have enough space to store the disc image (106 MiB needed).
[08:17] <davidrincon2006> what does this mean? The selected location does not have enough space to store the disc image (106 MiB needed).
[08:17] <rlaptop> no one uses cgwd themer in herE?
[08:17] <rockzman> rlaptop: look pal my driver is working fine i just wanna know if i need to set anything extra to have the opengl render workin
[08:17] <morphix> davidrincon2006: maybe the location is full
[08:17] <ubuntu_realuser> hmm
[08:17] <ubuntu_realuser> im not able to execute files on it
[08:18] <rlaptop> rockzman, easy man, i'm trying to help, sorry
[08:18] <davidrincon2006> no the dvd is empty
[08:18] <rlaptop> rockzman, i'm not sure what's goin on with it
[08:18] <davidrincon2006> ohh may be it is too big?
[08:18] <HellDragon> hi i got a problem , everytime i try to apt-get install something i get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:18] <scrappy_> Goblyn: if you havent configured iptables it should be set to accept everything
[08:18] <rockzman> rlaptop: well no need to be sorry man
[08:18] <scrappy_> Goblyn: do sudo iptables -L to see
[08:19] <rlaptop> davidrincon2006, yeah it sounds like its too big by 106MB
[08:19] <rockzman> rlaptop: its ok ^^ i did everything on that website to have my nvidia working well but open gl is not workin
[08:19] <rockzman> rlaptop: but thanks anyway
[08:19] <HellDragon> my apt-get was working earlier
[08:20] <rlaptop> rockzman, maybe look into some stuff about aiglx...that uses openGL to provide the effects, perhaps you might find a solution there?
[08:21] <davidrincon2006> The selected location does not have enough space to store the disc image (3504 MiB needed).
[08:21] <scrappy_> Goblyn: i am seeing a script for iptables in their documentation if you wanted to run that you would copy the whole thing to a document in gedit and save it to a file then sudo sh filename
[08:21] <davidrincon2006> no i took some of the files but it still says that The selected location does not have enough space to store the disc image (3504 MiB needed).
[08:21] <Goblyn> scrappy_: alright, thx
[08:22] <davidrincon2006> do i need a lot of space in the main hdd for creating the dvdimage?
[08:22] <HellDragon> im pissed off
[08:22] <davidrincon2006> i got around 800mb
[08:22] <HellDragon> everytime i try to apt-get install something i get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:23] <lostsync> davidrincon2006, creating a disk image requires at least as much space as is on the disk you are copying the image from
[08:24] <ubuntu_realuser> can someone tell me how to add read/write permissions to a mounted file system
[08:24] <ubuntu_realuser> i have read but i need write so i can copy and paste
[08:24] <jbroome> chmod
[08:25] <davidrincon2006> damn
[08:25] <Tonren> ubuntu_realuser: Is the mounted file system NTFS?
[08:25] <ubuntu_realuser> no its ext3
[08:25] <davidrincon2006> damn it
[08:25] <HellDragon> no help ?
[08:26] <ubuntu_realuser> i use  sudo mount -t ext3  /dev/sda1 /recovery -o defaults
[08:26] <HellDragon> everytime i try to apt-get install something i get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:26] <ubuntu_realuser> but i cant copy anything from that mount
[08:26] <Thunderpants> HellDragon, do u have enough free space to install?
[08:27] <HellDragon> Thunderpants: yes
[08:27] <HellDragon> 1.9gb
[08:27] <Koba> sweeeeeet
[08:27] <Madpilot> HellDragon, is that 1.9Gb free, or 1.9Gb total to install into?
[08:27] <Koba> I fixed my video corruption :P
[08:27] <Koba> thanks guys
[08:27] <Thunderpants> i just googled and the suggestion was not enough space on drive, in that case im stuck, sorry
[08:27] <HellDragon> free space:1.9 gb and the packet takes like 300kb
[08:28] <ardchoille> HellDragon: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=171107
[08:28] <ardchoille> HellDragon: google is your friend ;)
[08:28] <ubuntu_realuser> nevermind i got it
[08:29] <HellDragon> i already did apt-get -f install
[08:29] <ubuntu_realuser> im thatuh damnuh gooduh
[08:29] <HellDragon> it doesnt work ardchoille
[08:29] <rlaptop> HellDragon, try sudo apt-get install -f
[08:29] <rlaptop> would that make a difference?
[08:29] <HellDragon> hm yeah it works
[08:29] <ardchoille> HellDragon: Did you try *all* of the advice in the second post? or just the first line
[08:29] <HellDragon> thanks
[08:30] <rlaptop> no prob
[08:30] <rlaptop> glad its working
[08:30] <davidrincon2006> my internet does nt work
[08:30] <davidrincon2006> i cant open websites
[08:30] <ardchoille> rlaptop: that was the same I gave him and he said it didn't work
[08:30] <davidrincon2006> i need help
[08:30] <davidrincon2006> please
[08:30] <davidrincon2006> how can i see my DNS
[08:30] <Canute> ok, i'll try again: I got my wireless working earlier today with Network Manager, so after a while i plugged a normal cable into it, had some small problems but it seemed to work. However, now I want to change back and the Network Manager only shows "Wired Network" grayed out.. if i right click, it shows Enable Networking, but not Enable Wireless. My wireless card is activated, so is there any simple solution?
[08:30] <Madpilot> davidrincon2006, first, ease up on the Enter key, please
[08:31] <rlaptop> ardchoille, haha...he had to have inputted it wrong, i don't know why you'd type the -f before the install command
[08:31] <davidrincon2006> sorry :(
[08:31] <rlaptop> davidrincon2006, here's how i always get it to work
[08:31] <Madpilot> davidrincon2006, DNS issues are more likely to be your ISP's problem, in my experience
[08:31] <ajay> please please someone help me out. I updated my installation but now when i play a video file the first file works fine but then when i try to play any other vid after that the colours of all the vids are washed . Rebooting is fine but then again after first vid then washed colours. It happens in all players mplayer,vlc, totem . please help me out
[08:31] <davidrincon2006> no no it was working before
[08:32] <rlaptop> davidrincon2006, make sure all your settings are absolutely correct.  then go to network-tools, select your wireless card, in my case its eth1, and ping google.  For me, it starts pinging google and then it works
[08:32] <CrashProne> So um...  Hewp mehh!!
[08:32] <ardchoille> rlaptop: Because that was what was in the post that others said worked for them. I guess googling isn't always the right way to go
[08:32] <ardchoille> My bad
[08:33] <rlaptop> someone please help me with cwgdthemer? i don't know why it won't apply the themes!
[08:33] <rlaptop> ardchoille, yeah, apparently. haha.
[08:33] <davidrincon2006> how can i see my DNS
[08:33] <Madpilot> CrashProne, it helps if you actually ask a question :)
[08:33] <rlaptop> your dns is the first three of your ip, and then 1
[08:33] <rlaptop> like i have a dlink, so my dns is 192.168.0.1
[08:33] <davidrincon2006> the ping thing works but my internet doesn't work
[08:34] <CrashProne> Well... I have my onboard sound, and my sound card.  I use them both at once because it's awesome.. but sometimes they change places in Linux for no evident reason... like, onboard is usually dsp0, but sometimes swaps with my Audigy for no reason.. ideas?
[08:34] <rlaptop> davidrincon2006, you can ping www.google.com?
[08:34] <lostsync> lol
[08:35] <lostsync> i love that, "I use them both at once because it's awesome"
[08:35] <davidrincon2006> yes
[08:35] <CrashProne> I use TeamSpeak separated up onto my headset! :-D and everything else on the speakers.
[08:35] <davidrincon2006> it works
[08:35] <calcite> I have a problem, I have no sound on ubuntu, i've had sound on the live cd and ubuntu 5.10 , but not even those distro have sound enabled, can someone help me out, lspci shows the soundcard but /proc/asound/cards says no cards
[08:35] <lostsync> i used to use an SBLive with front and rear outputs and i loved it :)
[08:36] <rlaptop> could it be a problem with your browser? that's crazy that you can ping it but it doesn't work
[08:36] <ajay> no solution to my prob?
[08:36] <ajay> :(
[08:36] <davidrincon2006> anyone that can help me please? my computer does not open the websites
[08:36] <ajay> davidrincon2006: no sites at all? try pinging
[08:37] <orasis1> Has anyone every had their XFCE menu stop working?, I did nothing to it - only went to bed, woke up and it no longer fucntions
[08:38] <davidrincon2006> i already pinging, but i doesn't open the websites
[08:38] <lostsync> davidrincon2006, are you on IRC from the same computer you're trying to fix?
[08:38] <davidrincon2006> it connects but when i use firefox i does not connect to the thing
[08:38] <davidrincon2006> yes
[08:39] <jay__> what is XFCE?
[08:39] <ajay> davidrincon2006: apt-get another browser and try
[08:39] <Geoffrey2> anyone know how to get mplayer to play midi files?
[08:39] <ajay> jay__: windows manager
[08:41] <davidrincon2006> does ubuntu has another browser
[08:41] <argument> how do i reload /etc/fstab after changing it?
[08:41] <Flannel> davidrincon2006: ubuntu has quite a few browsers
[08:41] <ajay> davidrincon2006: apt-get install mozilla or epiphany
[08:41] <argument> davidrincon2006, there are numerous browsers in ubuntu: firefox, opera, dillo, galeon, epiphany
[08:41] <Thunderpants> davidrincon2006, do u have swiftfox in ur repos?
[08:41] <richiefrich> ajay u back
[08:42] <lostsync> *cough*lynx*cough*
[08:42] <Thunderpants> noooooooooooooooo
[08:42] <richiefrich> davidrincon2006 i sugest --> flock
[08:42] <argument> cough *CLI* isn't for everyone *cought*
[08:42] <lostsync> i was just kidding
[08:42] <jay__> oh,Xfce is a lightweight desktop environment for various *NIX systems.
[08:42] <odat> anyone able to test something for me?
[08:42] <ajay> richiefrich: yo man! sup #worlddomination
[08:43] <lostsync> odat, i'll do it
[08:43] <TheGame> oh yes
[08:43] <argument> jay__, not really that lightweight... XFCE is ok minimal, but when you start adding features and plugins it gets easly as slow as GNOME
[08:43] <TheGame> ohhhh yes
[08:43] <odat> lostsync, go here and tell me if all the pictures show up at the bottom  www.fossystems.com
[08:44] <lostsync> odat, it appears that your venture has been a marvelous success!
[08:44] <odat> lostsync, ?
[08:44] <lostsync> odat, it worked
[08:45] <odat> lostsync, there should be a small ad then a standard ad then another small one       are they appearing like that?
[08:45] <PhilsenAsk> can i close the thunderbird und firefox over the terminal?
[08:45] <Flannel> PhilsenAsk: kill their processes
[08:45] <PhilsenAsk> ?
[08:46] <lostsync> yes, i see sports medicine, a big nuxified banner, and some purple-headded anime chick
[08:46] <odat> lostsync, ok one of my friends isn't getting the small ad on the right  its just a blank space  any idea why?>
[08:46] <PhilsenAsk> how i can kill their processes
[08:47] <lostsync> PhilsenAsk, killall firefox, etc
[08:47] <PhilsenAsk> danke
[08:47] <lostsync> odat, doesn't work even if he refreshes the page?
[08:47] <odat> lostsync, nope just blank
[08:48] <lostsync> odat, and the other two work?
[08:48] <brl4n> so I'm trying to get my linksys wusb54gs working on 6.06.  It can "see" it in the device manager but not sure what version of the usb device I have.  lspci doesn't seem to list it.  what am I to do
[08:48] <lostsync> and are the ads served from 1 service or 3?
[08:48] <masked> i am installing xubuntu and its stuck on configuring apt - scanning the mirror... the pc has no net connection, is that normal?
[08:48] <odat> lostsync, yea
[08:48] <odat> lostsync, 3
[08:49] <lostsync> odat, my guess would be that he's having connectivity problems between himself and that service.  try another friend and see what results you get
[08:49] <alienseer23> thundr, are there any special tweaks I need to do to get bitpim to load on ubuntu? nothing happens at all?
[08:49] <lostsync> odat, if it works for me it should work for anyone, afaik
[08:50] <odat> lostsync, they are in canada
[08:50] <lostsync> odat, i suppose it's possible that they have a ban on purple headed anime chicks in canada, but i find it doubtul ;)
[08:51] <odat> lostsync, LOLOL those crazy canadians
[08:51] <odat> lostsync, were you here when i started this?
[08:51] <compotatoj> ...Ok. What did I miss?
[08:51] <thundr> alienseer23, I haven't used it, but if it's a source tarball, you should just have to extract it and compile it
[08:51] <lostsync> odat, no, i just started paying attention not longa go
[08:51] <compotatoj> ban on purple anime chicks?
[08:51] <thundr> alienseer23, what kind of file is it?
[08:52] <lostsync> grr somethign somewhere in my apartment keeps beeping and i have no idea what it is
[08:52] <odat> lostsync, ahh  paying attention?
[08:52] <compotatoj> lostsync, maybe it is the smoke detector
[08:52] <masked> i am installing xubuntu and its stuck on configuring apt - scanning the mirror... the pc has no net connection, is that normal?
[08:52] <alienseer23> its rpm
[08:52] <alienseer23> convert with alien right?
[08:52] <lostsync> compotatoj, you could be on to something there!
[08:52] <lostsync> odat, well im always here but seldom watching
[08:53] <compotatoj> lostsync, it is probably low on battery.. does it happen like every 30 seconds to 1.5 minutes?
[08:53] <thundr> Yeah, alien
[08:53] <odat> lostsync, so you have seen the site evolving in its short life
[08:53] <carthik> !offtopic
[08:53] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:53] <compotatoj> sorry carthik
[08:53] <lostsync> man that's a strict rule ;)
[08:54] <carthik> no problem compotatoj :) just be considerate to those that may actually have ubuntu issues :) #ubuntu-offtopic is a fun place to hang out.
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> is wpa supplicant dependent on the router? I have a supported network card, but wpa supplicant doesn't pick up the key. Router is WRT54G
[08:54] <compotatoj> fyrestrtr, supplicant? do you mean support?
[08:54] <compotatoj> fyrestrtr, that router should have wpa
[08:55] <Koba> Heh, i'm back... with one last issue. I created a new account, deleted the oem account, and now I have like, no frickin powers, synaptic don't shot up in the menu, and none of the commands in terminal work.
[08:55] <alienseer23> the folks at bitpim.org say I should have an acm driver, or something like /dev/usb/ttyACM0 or similar. There is nothing like this
[08:55] <fyrestrtr> it has wpa -- it has about 4 kinds of wpa settings. like wpapersonal, wpa2personal, wpaenterprise, etc.
[08:55] <fyrestrtr> compotatoj: yes, support.
[08:55] <thundr> alienseer23, that sounds like it has something to do with the connection to the phone, I don't know why it would be a prereq.
[08:56] <alienseer23> its the driver I need
[08:56] <carthik> fyrestrtr, try googling for "wpa supplicant wrt54g ubuntu" and see if your problem is covered
[08:56] <alienseer23> for the phone
[08:56] <alienseer23> but, with or without that, there is no bitpim, just...nothing happens
[08:56] <fyrestrtr> what is bitpim?
[08:56] <thundr> alienseer23, how does the phone connect to the computer?  Have you installed bitpm?
[08:57] <alienseer23> bitpim is an opensource utility for accessing mobile phones
[08:57] <alienseer23> yes, I have installed it, and the phone is connected via usb
[08:57] <Hellavator> whenever I check the box to change a file permission on my external hard drive it unchecks itself? Does anyone know why this happens?
[08:58] <alienseer23> I go to run it and nothing happens
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> Hellavator: maybe the external drive has a file system that doesn't support permissions -- or -- you don't have sufficient rights to change permissions.
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> alienseer23: what phone?
[08:59] <thundr> alienseer23, I don't know.
[08:59] <Hellavator> I believe it is FAT32 does this support permissions?
[08:59] <alienseer23> samsung a840
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> Hellavator: no.
[08:59] <jmghost> Damn Dapper is worse than XP when it comes to forced reboots/logouts.
[08:59] <Thunderpants> ?
[08:59] <morphix> !nvidia
[08:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:59] <brl4n> ugg, i hate wireless nics
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> jmghost: you only have to reboot when changing the kernel, or anything that has to do with the kernel (like drivers)
[09:00] <alienseer23> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20643    I get this error
[09:00] <jmghost> fyrestrtr: I'm talking about unscheduled reboots
[09:00] <Awesome-o2000> !kernel
[09:00] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:01] <bragi> jmghost: Than you are making something really bad..
[09:01] <jmghost> fyrestrtr, as in the kernel's alive and well, but the desktop is dead
[09:01] <fyrestrtr> alienseer23: you need to install libtiff4 and libtiff4-dev
[09:01] <alienseer23> k
[09:01] <jmghost> bragi, Yes, it was pretty bad. I tried using rdesktop and now the mouse no longer sends any event. Not very useful.
[09:02] <Koba> does anyone have a solution to my problem? sorry to bug, just kinda annoying, not being able to do anything.
[09:02] <thundr> jmghost, I've never had it ever reboot suddenly.  Freeze a couple times, maybe a hard freeze once, but nothing like that
[09:02] <Hellavator> fyrestrtr: If I need apache to access my external harddrive what are my options?
[09:02] <morphix> can u get GL and tv out function on a nvidia geforce 3??
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> jmghost: 'unscheduled reboots' don't happen often, unless its a hardware problem (like your computer overheats, your power supply is going out, etc). Describe the issue -- with preferrably more detail than 'desktop is dead'.
[09:02] <alienseer23> fyrestrtr, I just need the dev, already have the other
[09:03] <argument> !restricted
[09:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:03] <fyrestrtr> Hellavator: mount it with a liberal umask (like umask=0000) and then try it. I would recommend you copy the files to the on board drive if you need apache to access them. Or, if you are using Apache to transfer files from one machine to the other, just use scp.
[09:03] <jmghost> thundr, fyrestrtr I'm talking about a situation where I have no choice but to reboot the machine (or at least kill the X server) and lose whatever I was doing. Just becuase there's no fault isolation -- whenver an app does something wrong, it makes the system unusable.
[09:04] <alienseer23> fyrestrtr, didn't do the trick
[09:04] <bragi> jmghost: Not really.
[09:04] <alienseer23> same error
[09:04] <fyrestrtr> jmghost: I have never run into that problem, but it just seems like your system is not configured correctly.
[09:04] <bragi> jmghost: My Computer at work runs since the first reboot after updating to dapper
[09:04] <mneptok> greetings users
[09:04] <bragi> jmghost: And iam using tons of graphical apps
[09:05] <trygg> !ati
[09:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> alienseer23: hrmm, try apt-get install python-imaging
[09:06] <alienseer23> already have it
[09:06] <fyrestrtr> jmghost: on my machine, when an app hangs or appears to be stuck, I can always kill the process from the console, or use xkill to kill the offending screen. Very rarely has X server completely died on me, and if it has, then it has always been my fault (ie, wrong module compiled in, syntax error in the xorg.conf, etc).
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> alienseer23: is this bitpim that you are trying, or something elsE?
[09:07] <argument> !multiverse
[09:07] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:07] <alienseer23> bitpim
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> alienseer23: well, I know the problem -- it can't find the library files; but it could be due to many reasons -- it can't read the proper environment variables (ie, it can't find it in the path) -- you need to re-setup the program (or run ./configure again if you compiled it) etc. Many things to try, but I don't have enough information about your setup to give you anything other than guesses.
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> so unless you tell me from the top what you did, I can't help you :)
[09:09] <alienseer23> resetup? you mean to reinstall it? just did that
[09:10] <alienseer23> i downloaded the rpm, cponverted with alien, and went to install, other than that, jsut what you suggested
[09:10] <alienseer23> if I knew how to compile, I suppose that would help, eh?
[09:10] <mneptok> alienseer23: what app is this?
[09:11] <alienseer23> mneptok, bitpim
[09:11] <Flannel> !tell alienseer23 about compile
[09:12] <mneptok> alienseer23: have you tried running bitpim from the terminal to see what errors (if any) it gives you?
[09:12] <Thunderpants> !make > Thunderpants
[09:12] <fyrestrtr> alienseer23: ... rpm > alien ?! Oh geez.
[09:12] <alienseer23> yeah, I pasted it a bit ago
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> it probably is looking for the libraries where redhat puts them, not where they are in ubuntu.
[09:13] <alienseer23>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20643    I get this error
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> easier if you compile it from source.
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> I don't know much about alien -- other than, x-files and ET.
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> but anytime you say 'rpm' followed by 'convert' -- I know that's just troubel.
[09:14] <shinobi2> how do i rotate my gnome screen 90 degrees?
[09:14] <Thunderpants> turn ur monitor on its side :)
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> shinobi2: pick up your monitor (carefully) and lay it on its side. Then, tilt your head.
[09:14] <mneptok> alienseer23: Ubuntu ships with libtiff.so.4 and not libtiff.so.3
[09:14] <jmghost> fyrestrtr, bragi: I have so far four examples of apps that can screw up my system to the point of forcing a reboot
[09:14] <shinobi2> Thunderpants: haahhaa, did that
[09:15] <Thunderpants> :)
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> jmghost: like?
[09:15] <mneptok> alienseer23: it seems that the rpm you downloaded depends on libtiff-3
[09:15] <jmghost> fyrestrtr, bragi: 1) evolution 2) Amarok 3) Octave 4) rdesktop
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> mneptok: aah, good catch. Didn't see it.
[09:15] <alienseer23> what can I do to resolve this?
[09:15] <shinobi2> dell has a nice driver to rotate screen
[09:15] <alienseer23> just install the 3?
[09:16] <mneptok> fyrestrtr: that's why they pay me the big bucks. :)
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> jmghost: I have used both evolution and amarok -- no problem (use them every day, in fact, evolution runs 24hrs on my work desktop). As for octave, I don't even know what it is.
[09:16] <jmghost> 1) 2) and 3) do that by very quickly requiring *lots* of memory and making my system swap so much that it's equivalent to being crahed (no hope of recovering)
[09:16] <jmghost> 4) does weird things to the mouse and leave me with an X server that doesn't receive any event from the mouse anymore
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> jmghost: so wait, you are saying that because a program requires ram, and its hitting swap -- its equivalent to 'being crashed'??
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> how much ram is on your system?
[09:17] <jmghost> fyrestrtr: 1 Gig RAM.
[09:17] <alienseer23> is there anyway to fix the problem with this program?
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> jmghost: and how big is your swap?
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> alienseer23: compile from source.
[09:17] <alienseer23> ok, one last question
[09:17] <jmghost> fyrestrtr: I'm talking about a bug in the evolution composer. Once in a while, it just goes into a memory leak loop and eats whatever memory is available.
[09:17] <mneptok> jmghost: i ran Firefox, Evolution, GAIM, a terminal, and Rhythmbox daily on a machine with 512MB with no issues.
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> jmghost: I guess I should count myself as lucky seeing as I have never ran into this problem.
[09:18] <orasis1> Alright so that worked, if your XFCE menu stops working delet .config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml ...
[09:18] <alienseer23> it sais that the phone I am using with this program depends on a driver called acm, but the only acm I can find is in synaptic, and its a game...the bitpim.org people say most modern linux distros come with it, but it isn't here? where can I get it?
[09:18] <jmghost> fyrestrtr: One machine with 1 Gig swap, the other with 2 Gig. On the machine with 1 Gig, it takes 15 minutes for the OOM killer to get triggered and un-hang my machine. On the 2 Gig one, it's hopeless
[09:18] <alienseer23> any ideas?
[09:19] <Hellavator> fyrestrtr: my external hdd is mounted automatically? Is there anywhere where I can look at the fstab options that it currently uses?
[09:19] <Flannel> alienseer23: your best bet is to figure out what ACM stands for ;) then you can do a little bit more useful googling
[09:19] <alienseer23> gotcha, I'm a bit burned out or I probably would have done that by now
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> and line mneptok -- I have two machines that run ubuntu. One is a laptop with 1GB RAM (2.0 Centrino) -- the other is a desktop with 512 RAM and 2.8 P4. On the desktop, I run dual screens, xgl, evolution, firefox, opera, gaim, xmms, streamtuner, xterm, gnome-term and gdesklets (just reading what's running now). On the laptop, firefox, opera, xchat, xterm, oo writer, evolution, thunderbird. No problems on either machine.
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> Hellavator: it will be in /etc/fstab
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> s/line/like
[09:20] <alienseer23> must go sleep...happy trails, and thank you for the help, I appreciate it greatly
[09:20] <Hellavator> /etc/fstab doesn't currently list an entry for it
[09:20] <jmghost> mneptok: Doesn't matter how much memory you have. If the app goes into an infinite loop of allocating memory, your machine will start swapping. At some poing, the swap is so bad that the the X cursor doesn't even move and there's nothing you can do except rebooting.
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> jmghost: type 'mount' without the quotes
[09:20] <jmghost> fyrestrtr: What info do you want?
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> jmghost: are you running dapper with the release versions of these apps?
[09:21] <jmghost> fyrestrtr: Yes, except for Amarok
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> you compiled it from source?
[09:21] <mneptok> jmghost: i understand how swap works. what i'm telling you is that the behavior you describe does not happen to all users of Ubuntu/Evolution/GNOME etc. what is happening to you is not universal. so i would suggest looking into what is causing *your* machine to go sideways.
[09:21] <Hellavator> fyrestrtr: /etc/fstab doesn't currently list an entry for it
[09:21] <jmghost> fyrestrtr: It's a fundamental problem, there's no resource limitation, so any app that screws up can starve the system badly. It would be the same if a buggy app accidently started a forkbomb.
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> Hellavator: type 'mount' in a console.
[09:22] <richiefrich> ompaul whats up man
[09:22] <Hellavator> fyrestrtr: AH thanks
[09:22] <richiefrich> ompaul how u been anything new on the front..
[09:22] <OsirisX11> hi all! is there any Konfabulator type apps for linux?
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> jmghost: well, if its a fundamental problem, there would be hell about it on the X server mailing lists; but so far, nothing.
[09:22] <trygg> Heh, i just gotta ask why i get '/usr/bin/gitfm: fatal error: `chdir' failed: permission denied.' when trying to git something?
[09:22] <mneptok> OsirisX11: try Opera. they have widgets.
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> OsirisX11: what is konfabulator?
[09:22] <ompaul> richiefrich, na just doing a late morning boot :-)
[09:22] <Thunderpants> OsirisX11, gdesklets and superkaramba
[09:23] <jmghost> mneptok: I think the difference between my machine and yours is not about the swap, but the fact you haven't run into an app that had that problem.
[09:23] <richiefrich> omnid ahh
[09:23] <OsirisX11> thank you Thunderpants
[09:23] <richiefrich> ompaul ^^
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> trygg: whatever its trying to acces, the user you are running it as, doesn't have permissions.
[09:23] <Thunderpants> yvw
[09:23] <mneptok> jmghost: i assure you, i have used a LOT of Linux apps.
[09:23] <kauschovar> jmghost, same thing can happen on windows
[09:23] <trygg> I guess its bad to do chmod 777 chdir?
[09:23] <trygg> Because root cant run it
[09:23] <jmghost> fyrestrtr: By fundamental problem, I mean that a forkbomb will kill and Dapper machine if a buggy app triggers it.
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> trygg: ermm, no.
[09:23] <OsirisX11> superkaramba is for kde only though right?
[09:23] <coasterdude90> hey guys
[09:23] <Thunderpants> yes i think so OsirisX11
[09:24] <jmghost> kauschovar: Windows has lots of buffer overflows, is it Ok to have that in Linux as well?
[09:24] <trygg> fyrestrtr: so i can do it?
[09:24] <mneptok> fyrestrtr: hmm?
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> trygg: I'm saying, that's not a solution. Try to figure out what its trying to do.
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> mneptok: never seen an official canonical employee.
[09:24] <coasterdude90> I'm trying to install Ubuntu but it won't install
[09:24] <jmghost> mneptok: Have you ever triggered the bug where the evolution composer starts leaking ~50 MB/second?
[09:24] <coasterdude90> or basically I'm having install problems
[09:24] <richiefrich> OsirisX11 yes kde --> A tool to create interactive applets for the KDE desktop.
[09:24] <mneptok> fyrestrtr: there are others here. but they are mostly quiet.
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> trygg: if you chmod 777, it will work, but its not the right solution to the problem.
[09:24] <jmghost> mneptok: Have you ever triggered the bug where Amarok starts leaking ~50 MB/second?
[09:24] <OsirisX11> but i love gnome!
[09:25] <jmghost> I suspect the result would be the same.
[09:25] <Thunderpants> OsirisX11, gdesklets then
[09:25] <OsirisX11> gdesklets sucks balls doesn't it? it did last time i used it
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> mneptok: do you take the problems here and escalate them if enough people complain about them?
[09:25] <mneptok> jmghost: no, i have not. and if you can reproduce it regularly on a few different machines and a few different architectures i would submit a bug to Novell.
[09:25] <trygg> Yeah, gnome is really getting unified and its great. .)
[09:25] <trygg> fyrestrtr: gotcha.
[09:25] <Koba> oi, does anyone know how to get a user back on the sudoers list?
[09:25] <wide-eye> jmghost, turn off your swap, then it will get killed faster :)
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> Koba: add the user to the 'admin' group
[09:25] <mneptok> fyrestrtr: if i catch something that's definitely a bug and not already in LP, sure.
[09:25] <Koba> I can't use any sudo command, I can't get in the users-admin
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> mneptok: :) neat
[09:26] <kauschovar> jmghost, wow.  that wasn't even what we were talking about.  you're just arguing for the sake of arguing
[09:26] <tengil> where should failed ssh attempts be logged by default when i installed unbuntu and ssh?
[09:26] <richiefrich> OsirisX11 lol
[09:26] <mneptok> Koba: boot to recovery mode and run visudo
[09:26] <jmghost> mneptok: Well, the problem is that it happens at random, several days apart...
[09:26] <Koba> how do I boot to recovery mode?
[09:26] <richiefrich> user00265 lol
[09:26] <mneptok> Koba: hit <ESC> as GRUB loads
[09:26] <Koba> oh, ok
[09:27] <Koba> well, brb
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> mneptok: do you know if the issue with ubuntu -- where if the kernel boots into maintainance mode -- since there is no root password, a lot of people have been stuck there. Are they working to fix it?
[09:27] <jmghost> I've so far reported more than a dozen bugs on Ubuntu. One has been fixed so far (for which my bug report was a dupe anyway)
[09:27] <mneptok> fyrestrtr: dunno that issue exactly. is it in LP?
[09:27] <OsirisX11> how can i hide kernel boot text?
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> mneptok: I haven't checked to be honest, but a few people have come in here complaining about it.
[09:28] <Ademan> what xml editor do you guys use? (other than gedit of course)
[09:28] <OsirisX11> i will be putting ubuntu on a few pcs in a web cafe
[09:28] <jmghost> kauschovar: My point is that Dapper (and other Linux distros) assume that applications behave and it'll effectively hang when they don't.
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> Ademan: I use cream (since I like vim)
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> jmghost: I don't see any truth to that, in my experience with Linux.
[09:29] <jmghost> fyrestrtr: Any truth to what? You think I'm making this up or what?
[09:29] <OsirisX11> jmghost: yes. that's what he said. :)
[09:30] <ikonia> is there an X configuration tool in ubuntu
[09:30] <wide-eye> jmghost, there may be an assumtion that people will switch to a term and run killall -KILL if required
[09:30] <mneptok> jmghost: i think that claiming "Evolution has a race condition bug" based on one of your machines having an issue "every few days" is a bit trigger-happy.
[09:30] <mneptok> jmghost: i'm not saying Evolution does NOT have the bug, just that better triaging work has to be done before you can make definitive statements
[09:30] <mneptok> *shrug*
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> jmghost: no no, I'm not saying that. I'm saying, its a rare case, so you shouldn't fault linux -- unless you are extremely knowledgable about the problem. But, here is the beauty of open source -- you find a problem, you can try to fix it yourself (I've *tried* this before -- worked, once) -- or you can complain to the developers; however, to come out and declare something such as what you said, a broad generalization about linux base
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> d on your experience with amarok, will generally get you responses akin to a flaming.
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> richiefrich: vimtutor :)
[09:31] <ikonia> something along the lines of Xconfigurator - that will allow dual head configuration
[09:31] <DARKGuy> Yay for nano :P
[09:31] <mneptok> OsirisX11: one word. "inertia"
[09:31] <jmghost> mneptok: I've had that problem on more than one machine. But in any case, my point isn't against evolution. Bugs happen. My problem is that a bug in evolution can *effectively* bring my system down.
[09:31] <OsirisX11> mneptok: more like inert.
[09:31] <mneptok> OsirisX11: the only reason i use nano. traction and inertia.
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> ikonia: xinerama -- if you have an nvidia based card, twinview is very easy to setup.
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> !xinerama > ikonia
[09:32] <ikonia> fyrestrtr: yup - know how to use xinerama, looking for a setup tool in ubuntu
[09:32] <jmghost> fyrestrtr: I'm not faulting Linux -- the kernel, I'm faulting Linux -- the distribution(s) for not limiting resources properly.
[09:32] <richiefrich> fyrestrtr  vimtutor ??  url ?
[09:32] <DARKGuy> Greetings, anybody know how to search files in a an SMB shared folder through any GUI utility, or know a file searcher that isn't the nautilus internal file searcher? that doesn't even seem to work even in my local PC so... :P
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> richiefrich: just type it at a console
[09:32] <mneptok> jmghost: a bug in any app on any OS can effectively bring the machine down. all OSes allow userspace apps access to swap. swap fills, performance tanks. c'est la vie.
[09:33] <mneptok> DARKGuy: ls | grep ?
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> DARKGuy: find?
[09:33] <mneptok> DARKGuy: locate ?
[09:33] <DARKGuy> Can't mount the drive in the console, dunno why
[09:33] <DARKGuy> Else I'd try that ^^
[09:33] <jmghost> wide-eye: killall is a fine solution only when you're machine is responsive enough for you to type in anything. When it's swapping like crazy, it can be 15 minutes before you can type a single caracter.
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> DARKGuy: so how do you expect to search it?
[09:33] <richiefrich> fyrestrtr ty man
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> jmghost: drop to a console.
[09:34] <wide-eye> jmghost, ctl-alt-backspace
[09:34] <DARKGuy> fyrestrtr: Letting a non-console program mount it for me and search?
[09:34] <wide-eye> jmghost, or c-a-f1
[09:34] <DARKGuy> just like nautilus does, too bad the file searching doesn't seem to work =(
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> DarkAudit: don't know what you mean exactly, but you can use Places > Connect to server....
[09:34] <wide-eye> jmghost, like i said before if you really dont want to wait for the swap to fill up, turn off swap
[09:34] <jmghost> fyrestrtr, wide-eye: I know how to use a console (been using Linux since '95). That also won't work when the machine just doesn't respond.
[09:35] <wide-eye> jmghost, so it will get killed sooner and you get on with life
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> jmghost: you have a rare case, I have *never* had a machine completely freeze -- and it wasn't a hardware issue.
[09:35] <mneptok> jmghost: have you tried a stack trace against the offending app and sent it to the devs?
[09:35] <jmghost> wide-eye: And you'll pay for the 2G extra RAM?
[09:35] <wide-eye> jmghost, 1 gig is enough for what you've mentioned, plenty even
[09:36] <Koba> hah! thanks a ton!
[09:36] <jmghost> wide-eye: 1 GB+1GB swap is at the limit for what I'm doing (especially when using octave)
[09:36] <Koba> worked like a charm :P
[09:36] <wide-eye> jmghost, but you might play with adj. swappiness in proc
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> mneptok: I have a question about evolution for you. Have you ever had a problem, with evolution not notifying of new emails?
[09:37] <mneptok> fyrestrtr: nope. POP or IMAP?
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> mneptok: its IMAP ... sort of.
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> its actually scalix.
[09:37] <mneptok> fyrestrtr: someone else here has had that issue. with our own MTA. :O
[09:37] <jmghost> fyrestrtr: I'm not talking about a hard freeze. When X doesn't send mouse event of the machine is swapping like crazy, it's not frozen -- it's just as good as frozen from the desktop experience POV though.
[09:37] <mneptok> fyrestrtr: i suspect it's a problem with Evo <-> various MTAs
[09:38] <mneptok> fyrestrtr: it may well be that certain IMAP implementations make Evolution dizzy.
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> mneptok: yeah, I just wanted to confirm it wasn't something I hadn't set. By the way, do you remember there used to be an evolution with a neat start page, with weather updates, etc. Whatever happened to that?
[09:38] <mneptok> (to be honest, i only use Evo at work because to dogfood it. otherwise i use T-bird.)
[09:38] <jmghost> mneptok: I tried running evolution in valgrind but it's too slow to use for any reasonnable amount of time. (and there's so much error that everything's lost in noise anyway).
[09:39] <brl4n> why can't I su root?
[09:39] <brl4n> i need to install drivers...ugg
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> !root > brl4n
[09:39] <brl4n> wtf
[09:39] <mneptok> brl4n: sudo is your friend
[09:39] <mneptok> touch it
[09:39] <mneptok> love it
[09:39] <wide-eye> sudo su -
[09:39] <trygg> Hm, xorg whines about 'Section "ServerLayout"', that 'Screen "Default Screen"' is undefined when trying to get fglrx to work?
[09:39] <mneptok> LIBE MEIN PASCHMONKEY!
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> bring it over for dinner.
[09:40] <brl4n> su root doesn't like my password
[09:40] <jmghost> mneptok: But in any case, I would accept evolution crashing once every few days. I don't accept that my OS lets it eat 2 GB memory before pulling the plug.
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> trygg: you don't have a 'Default Screen' section, or the setup program re-named it. Just edit xorg.conf.
[09:40] <wide-eye> jmghost, you might try starting evo from a screen/term so you have some clue as to what goes wrong
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> brl4n: use sudo with your own pass.
[09:40] <richiefrich> brl4n then u need to fix it
[09:40] <Drako60> hmm i need some assistance
[09:40] <brl4n> yeah thanks
[09:40] <Madpilot> brl4n, don't use su, use sudo...
[09:40] <jmghost> mneptok: I can send you a 10-line program that *simulates* the effect and will render your machine unusable if you have enough swap space.
[09:40] <compotatoj> brl4n, yeah, that is because you shouldn't enable the root account
[09:40] <richiefrich> brl4n does sudo work
[09:41] <Drako60> i just did a dist-upgrade to dapper and i can't boot to the new kernel, it goes from loading modules to mounting root file system then stalls
[09:41] <iter> sudo -s
[09:41] <trygg> fyrestrtr: if i comment it out, fglrxinfo says i use indirect mesa stuff.
[09:41] <mneptok> jmghost: and i could send you a 1 line program that reformats your root partition. what's the point? ;)
[09:41] <richiefrich> brl4n if not then u need to -->  boot to livecd and mount chroot and then change it
[09:41] <brl4n> ok
[09:41] <richiefrich> cowmilk whats up
[09:41] <richiefrich> and su - should work
[09:41] <trygg> Should i name it 'Screen "Screen"'?
[09:41] <cowmilk> how can i search through my terminal commands history for all commands that have the word "cron" in them?
[09:41] <mneptok> Drako60: how long have you waited for the mount to complete?
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> mneptok: do you know what I'm talking about re: evolution? I remember before fedora came out, the evolution that came with redhad had all these plugin options, had a 'Today' screen akin to Outlook. Whatever happened to that?
[09:42] <cowmilk> richiefrich: oh hi. you're friendly
[09:42] <Drako60> about 5 minutes
[09:42] <Ademan> if i install the xserver-xorg-air-core package and i have an nvidia card, am i in trouble?
[09:42] <due> cowmilk: grep "cron" .bash_history
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> trygg: pastebin your xorg.conf
[09:42] <iter> cowmilk: history | grep cowmilk
[09:42] <jmghost> mneptok: The format program is malicious and would need to run as root. The example I'm talking about is very close that what a buggy app can actually do.
[09:42] <brl4n> i'm trying to get my usb wireless nic working and I'm going to scream
[09:42] <mneptok> fyrestrtr: removed upstream, i think.
[09:42] <cowmilk> richiefrich: what were we talking about in the past?
[09:42] <iter> err grep cron
[09:42] <richiefrich> cowmilk Ctrl + r
[09:42] <OsirisX11> damn SuperKaramba sucks balls too.
[09:42] <trygg> fyrestrtr: hold on then. :)
[09:42] <pluffsy> is it hard to setup a caldav server? what software should I use?
[09:42] <Drako60> if i boot the old kernel from breezy it goes through load modules, load /dev, mount root filesystem, and boots fine
[09:42] <richiefrich> cowmilk your err  new hdd
[09:42] <richiefrich> cowmilk i helped u mount it .. remember ?
[09:43] <cowmilk> richiefrich: oh, Thank you very Much!!! it works great
[09:43] <richiefrich> cowmilk cool
[09:43] <cowmilk> richiefrich:  i did ctrl + R, but how do i see a list?
[09:43] <richiefrich> cowmilk did u try --> Crtl + r   <--- in a ter, ?
[09:43] <richiefrich> cowmilk then u type -->  cron
[09:43] <mneptok> Drako60: what kernel are you using? stock i386 or 686 or SMP or ... ?
[09:43] <richiefrich> cowmilk u type what cmd u are looking for
[09:44] <Drako60> x86_64 and64
[09:44] <cowmilk> richiefrich: i typed cron, then what?
[09:44] <richiefrich> cowmilk what does it return
[09:44] <carrus85> okay, I have a bit of a problem... I tried to use suspend mode, and now my mouse won't work (even after a complete reboot)...
[09:44] <cowmilk> i was expecting to see a complete listing of all past commands i ran with the word "cron"
[09:44] <Drako60> 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic
[09:44] <mneptok> Drako60: try turning off ACPI
[09:44] <carrus85> any ideas?
[09:44] <Drako60> hmm alright
[09:44] <jmghost> mneptok: In an ideal OS, no (non-root) user could crash a machine. While this is hard to do, I think it's reasonnable to expect that no buggy app run as a user should be able to crash (or make unusable) the system. For example, that's why we have protected memory..
[09:44] <trygg> fyrestrtr: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/2849/
[09:44] <brl4n> thanks frying_fish
[09:44] <brl4n> er fyrestrtr
[09:44] <cowmilk> richiefrich: it returns: crontab /home/cowmilk/.crontab
[09:45] <mneptok> jmghost: so what's the solution? not allow userspace access to swap?
[09:45] <richiefrich> cowmilk  is that what u wanted..
[09:45] <Drako60> acpi still had issues huh, well alright, whats the grub command for that btw?
[09:45] <richiefrich> cowmilk if not do what iter said
[09:45] <richiefrich> cowmilk  history | grep cron
[09:46] <mneptok> Drako60: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21189.html
[09:46] <cowmilk> richiefrich: ctrl R only brings up the most recent instance, eh?
[09:46] <iter> yeah ctrl r is cool but not everything
[09:46] <iter> history | grep cron
[09:46] <jmghost> mneptok: Could be adding some fairness to (temporarily) stop an application that swaps too much. Could be to have a default of not allowing applications to use more than (e.g.) 80% of the psysical RAM (you could override the default for specific apps).
[09:46] <mneptok> jmghost: so get coding. ;)
[09:47] <cowmilk> iter so  ctrl R only brings up the most recent instance, only?
[09:47] <shinobi2> i have problem with xrandr  --> http://rafb.net/paste/results/UDKd9k21.html
[09:47] <carrus85> can anyone help?  I'm not sure exactly where to look to try to fix a dead mouse (especially one that was working not 10 minutes ago.)
[09:47] <shinobi2> trying to rotate screen 90 degrees
[09:47] <jmghost> mneptok: I've got better things to code on (http:www.speex.org). I don't ask people to fix my bugs, but it'd be nice if they fixed theirs.
[09:47] <snoops> could someone suggest/recommend a calculator I can use to calculate incredibly large numbers - 1000000^1291021 for instance?
[09:47] <mneptok> jmghost: what you are describing is not a bug. it is a feature request.
[09:48] <richiefrich> iter yes but if u need  something quick .. ctrl+r is nice if u have any clue what the cmd is
[09:48] <jmghost> mneptok: FYI this is my experience so far with bug reporting on Ubuntu. https://launchpad.net/people/jean-marc-valin/+reportedbugs
[09:48] <Ademan>  if i install the xserver-xorg-air-core package and i have an nvidia card, am i in trouble?
[09:48] <mneptok> jmghost: what you are describing is not a bug. it is a feature request. (x2)
[09:48] <tengil> i am logging iptables to debug and in syslog.conf i have set so all kern.debug messages goes to /var/log/iptables and all the other kern messages goes to /var/log/kern.log. this works fine. however when i type dmesg i still get all the iptables stuff in there. how do i get rid of that?
[09:49] <jmghost> mneptok: So I compose a message and I need to reboot my machine and it's not a bug?
[09:49] <qhoore> halo semua
[09:49] <OsirisX11> is there any gnome panels to display rss? or any widgets that will do the job? (don't say superkaramba or gdesklets)
[09:49] <cowmilk> what is the technical name for what ctrl + R is? Because i want to wikipedia it.
[09:50] <trygg> OsirisX11: hold on
[09:50] <mneptok> jmghost: you *yourself* have said you cannot reproduce this bug consistently. and then you say "i want Unix to do this with swap instead of this. and if it doesn't, it's a bug."
[09:50] <iter> cowmilk: reverse-i-search
[09:50] <trygg> OsirisX11: http://www.gnomefiles.com/app.php/Alligator is it this you want?
[09:50] <OsirisX11> is it just me or has jmghost been trolling all night?
[09:50] <StreetSmart> Hey guys. Im wondering if there is anything wrong with apt-get on my system. I just installed 6.06.1 and did the apt-get upgrade but there doesnt seem to be anything to upgrade is this correct?
[09:51] <trygg> OsirisX11: no, not that, sorry.
[09:51] <Shinzetsu^IRSSI> StreetSmart: It gets the packages really fast, it seems it didnt update but it did :)
[09:51] <mneptok> jmghost: it may surprise you to learn that many thousands of people use Evolution every day and do not encounter the problem you describe. in fact, you're among them. the problem only happens "every few days"
[09:51] <jmghost> mneptok: Because I can't reproduces it consistently doesn't mean it's not a bug.
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> trygg: I'm editing your config file, just a sec.
[09:51] <mneptok> jmghost: but it sure as heck does mean that triaging it won;t be easy, and no one is going to do it for you.
[09:51] <trygg> OsirisX11: http://www.gnomefiles.com/app.php/GNUsTicker - this i meant.
[09:52] <trygg> fyrestrtr: sounds awesome.
[09:52] <OsirisX11> i'm trying to display my NINAN rss feed but of course it is not something i'd like to open up a newsreader to see.. i'd ideally want it plastered to my desktop but i'll settle for a scrolling panel
[09:52] <StreetSmart> Shinzetsu^IRSSI: lol but it told me that 0 packages were ungraded....
[09:52] <slon`> Hello
[09:52] <jmghost> mneptok: evolution does that every few days (well, did because I switched to thunderbird). Then Amarok sometimes does that. So does rdesktop, ...
[09:52] <Shinzetsu^IRSSI> StreetSmart: hmm, did it get the packages though?
[09:52] <cowmilk> iter, i learned something cool about reverse-i-search:  if you wish to go back further without typing any more letters you can hit Ctrl-r multiple times
[09:52] <cowmilk> from http://suso.suso.org/docs/adv_shell/bangcharacter.phtml
[09:52] <StreetSmart> Shinzetsu^IRSSI: no.. thats what im saying.
[09:52] <Shinzetsu^IRSSI> StreetSmart: like this is list of 'getting package <link>'
[09:53] <cowmilk> iter: did you know that?
[09:53] <Shinzetsu^IRSSI> StreetSmart: try and enable universe and multiverse in synaptic advanced options, maybe itll work then
[09:53] <iter> nah I never use it
[09:53] <StreetSmart> adam@adam-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:53] <StreetSmart> Password:
[09:53] <StreetSmart> Reading package lists... Done
[09:53] <StreetSmart> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:53] <StreetSmart> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:53] <cowmilk> i should tell richie, but he left
[09:53] <Shinzetsu^IRSSI> StreetSmart: use pastebin.com next time if youre pasting
[09:53] <StreetSmart> Shinzetsu^IRSSI: sorry boss.
[09:53] <richiefrich> cowmilk ?
[09:53] <iter> or paste your password
[09:53] <Shinzetsu^IRSSI> StreetSmart: not a problem
[09:54] <cowmilk> richiefrich: oh, you're here. http://suso.suso.org/docs/adv_shell/bangcharacter.phtml says " if you wish to go back further without typing any more letters you can hit Ctrl-r multiple times". did you know this colo thing?
[09:54] <Shinzetsu^IRSSI> StreetSmart: well i cant help you, seems it cant find anything
[09:54] <OsirisX11> iter: ;)
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> trygg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20645
[09:54] <Shinzetsu^IRSSI> StreetSmart: sorry
[09:54] <jmghost> mneptok: I'll tell you another story. The one of a suspend to RAM *regression* in the kernel. I reported it on the mailing list. They asked me to track it down. I tracked it down the the version (took a week because it's hard to trigger). Said it was too vague, so I spend 2 months tracking it down to a release candidate. Wasn't enough. Then I tracked it down to a single day.
[09:54] <iter> omg this is hell
[09:54] <richiefrich> cowmilk so what u hit.. Ctrl+r then  cron and then u hit ctrl=r again ?
[09:54] <iter> online interactive sexual harassment training
[09:55] <StreetSmart> Shinzetsu^IRSSI: i got my source list from http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources.php
[09:55] <StreetSmart> Shinzetsu^IRSSI: is there anything wrong with copying that?
[09:55] <richiefrich> cowmilk cool
[09:55] <mneptok> jmghost: and the action item for me in that story is ... ?
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> StreetSmart: always use an official source list.
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> !easysource
[09:55] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:55] <Shinzetsu^IRSSI> StreetSmart: if youre adding it, no, if you replaced it, yes
[09:55] <OsirisX11> trygg: thank you
[09:55] <Shinzetsu^IRSSI> I gotta go now, good luck
[09:55] <trygg> OsirisX11: Youre welcome. :)
[09:55] <jmghost> mneptok: wasn't enough for the developers, none of which had spent much time looking at the problem. At this point, I gave up and promised myself I wouldn't waste as much time if the developers weren't really interested.
[09:55] <cowmilk> richiefrich: yes, cool
[09:55] <jmghost> (sorry, got interrupted)
[09:55] <trygg> fyrestrtr: lemme try it out then. :)
[09:55] <richiefrich> cowmilk nice man ty i didnt know
[09:55] <StreetSmart> Shinzetsu^IRSSI: how do i get a good enough source list?
[09:55] <iter> I had to click on a virtual postcard in the virtual office
[09:56] <richiefrich> cowmilk now u are teaching me :P
[09:56] <mneptok> jmghost: did you file a bug on kernel.org?
[09:56] <iter> it said "san francisco is great but there are too many gays here"
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> StreetSmart: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:56] <OsirisX11> i get cow's milk locally. :)
[09:56] <jmghost> mneptok: Of course I did.
[09:56] <snoops> :( no can can recommend a calculator allowing me to work out ridiculously large values? Such as 12128192^83948394 ?
[09:56] <mneptok> jmghost: then you went to the right place.
[09:56] <snail> is there a command line program that allows me to take screen shots?
[09:56] <OsirisX11> snoops: mathlab?
[09:56] <cowmilk> due: iter: what's the diffierence between  history | grep cron    and  grep "cron" .bash_history?
[09:56] <snail> snoops: dc / bc
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> snoops: mathematica?
[09:56] <iter> snoops: how about any mathmatics package
[09:57] <iter> matlab or mathmatica
[09:57] <StreetSmart> fyrestrtr: thats... confusing dude.
[09:57] <snoops> thank you :D
[09:57] <OsirisX11> cowmilk: the latter only runs one process :)
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> StreetSmart: or you can just use mine :)
[09:57] <jmghost> mneptok: The point is you can't ask users to do all the work for you. Especially for an "end-user" application.
[09:57] <snail> cowmilk: speed, efficiency, possibly defaults
[09:57] <carrus85> Anyone know where I can look to see if my mouse is even being detected anymore?  (So I can determine if X is at fault or if something else has broken)...
[09:57] <vedix> hello
[09:57] <cowmilk> snail: huh?
[09:57] <jn> hey im running ubuntu dualboot with win xp.. everytime i restart and boot xp, when i go back to ubuntu the time is off by 7 hrs
[09:57] <StreetSmart> fyrestrtr: are you using 6.06.1?
[09:57] <Geoffrey2> ok, before I give up on this for the evening....does anyone know of a straight forward way to play midi files on Linux?
[09:57] <due> cowmilk: won't work if you don't have a ~/.bash_history file.
[09:58] <cowmilk> OsirisX11: so the latter is more efficienct with my old processor?
[09:58] <argument> carrus85, cat /dev/input/mice
[09:58] <vedix> anybody here running CVS E17 with Ubuntu?
[09:58] <iter> haha more efficient
[09:58] <jn> anyone else have this problem?
[09:58] <argument> carrus85, move your mouse, if you get funny chars your mouse is detected
[09:58] <OsirisX11> cowmilk: i can't say.
[09:58] <iter> dude, we have more than 640K these days
[09:58] <carrus85> argument: I've already tried that, nothing is actually printed...
[09:58] <jmghost> Wow! My X server un-hanged itself after ~20 minutes...
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> StreetSmart: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20646
[09:58] <OsirisX11> alright that's it.
[09:58] <OsirisX11> bye. thanks jmghost
[09:59] <carrus85> *sigh*... now to figure out WHY it isn't being detected
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> Geoffrey2: double click them?
[09:59] <snail> jn: windows and ubuntu are bitching over whether or not the hardware clock is GMT or local time
[09:59] <StreetSmart> fyrestrtr: is it ok to use this source list for 6.06.1 ?
[09:59] <jmworx> hi OsirisX11 :-)
[09:59] <carrus85> I think I'm going to remove as many usb devices from the system as possible...
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> StreetSmart: yes.
[09:59] <carrus85> and reboot
[09:59] <Geoffrey2> fyrestrtr, using what program?
[09:59] <jn> ill set local time thanks
[09:59] <madmax> does anyone know how i can install java in firefox ? is there a package in synaptic ?
[09:59] <snail> jn: I'm guessing that your local timezone is GMT+7 hours?
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> Anything, any audio player. The default one will play them.
[10:00] <jmworx> snail: no
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> !java > madmax
[10:00] <vedix> madmax, search, if not, add repos
[10:00] <Geoffrey2> fyrestrtr, right now I double click on it, mplayer comes up and just sits there
[10:00] <jmworx> snail: oops :-)
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> Geoffrey2: open up a terminal, then type mplayer name-of-file.mid and see what error you get.
[10:00] <jn> hm. i went to /etc/default/rcS to set UTC=no but it's already set as no....
[10:01] <jn> snail: im pacific time
[10:01] <jn> cali
[10:01] <brl4n> so I guess my wireless card isn't supported
[10:01] <brl4n> crapola
[10:01] <jn> but i didnt set time properly when i installed ubuntu :x
[10:01] <carrus85> unless anyone has any other suggestions...  It was being detected not to long ago (and now it isn't)...
[10:01] <jn> should i set UTC=yes ??
[10:01] <brl4n> why doesn't stuff just work.  linksys can lick my balls
[10:02] <iter> carrus85: you could try booting from a livecd
[10:02] <snail> jn: probably. I don't do dual boot
[10:02] <kernel-panic> nas
[10:02] <iter> if your mouse works then it's not harware erlated
[10:02] <mneptok> jn: time is set by copying from /usr/share/timezone to /etc/localtime
[10:02] <fyrestrtr> !language
[10:02] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:03] <trygg> fyrestrtr: Heh, now i get tons of 'API ERROR' when i try to run fglrxinfo and X is slow as hell.
[10:03] <mneptok> jn: find the time zone file you want and cp it to /etc/localtime
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> trygg: that's a different problem ;)
[10:03] <carrus85> iter: well, I highly doubt it is hardware related (considering it worked before I tried to use suspend)...
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> trygg: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log and the output of fglrxinfo
[10:03] <iter> oh it's acpi? why didnt you say
[10:03] <iter> you are fucked mi amigo
[10:03] <Flannel> !language
[10:03] <iter> ;\
[10:03] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:03] <iter> oh lo siento
[10:04] <brl4n> families need to learn the language
[10:04] <brl4n> heeh
[10:04] <Shinzetsu^Afk> iter: is that spanish?
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> they won't be learning it here.
[10:04] <jn> there is nothing in /usr/share/timezone
[10:04] <brl4n> ;)
[10:04] <brl4n> touche
[10:04] <iter> si espanol lo siento = I'm sorry
[10:04] <Shinzetsu^Afk> iter: #ubuntu-es
[10:05] <Shinzetsu^Afk> meh im getting sick of this irssi gonna reboot
[10:05] <iter> mmm my spanish is not that good
[10:05] <StreetSmart> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20647 is that okay???
[10:05] <iter> irssi >> *
[10:05] <jn> iter
[10:05] <jn> you following me?
[10:05] <rast4> is there a way to get Adobe Flash Player 9 on ubuntu instead of Macromedia 7?
[10:06] <Geoffrey2> ah, missing .dll....now to go find a copy of it
[10:06] <wide-eye> jn,  /usr/share/zoneinfo
[10:06] <mneptok> jn: sudo cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Pacific /etc/localtime
[10:06] <jn> wide-eye: nothing there
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> StreetSmart: yes.
[10:07] <Flannel> rast4: Macrodobe hasn't released Flash 9 for linux yet.
[10:07] <StreetSmart> fyrestrtr: thanks. my system needs a restart. thanks for the help dude.
[10:07] <rast4> ty Flannel
[10:07] <rast4> Flannel: I value your knowledge so may I ask what you recommend the easiest way to get my ubuntu laptop on a windows network?
[10:07] <brl4n> i'm getting a hardware not present in ndis-gtk
[10:07] <drako> mneptok, acpi=off didn't work, oddly the 2.12-9-amd64-generic goes through one more step befor it mounts the root filesystem
[10:08] <Flannel> rast4: samba, probably
[10:08] <wide-eye> jn, do you have libc6 installed?
[10:08] <rast4> I was afraid you'd say that
[10:08] <rast4> ;\
[10:08] <Flannel> rast4: whys that?
[10:08] <iter> rast4: install swat
[10:08] <rast4> I have never had decent luck with getting samba set up
[10:08] <iter> samba web administration
[10:08] <rast4> I believe I did
[10:09] <rast4> how would I access it
[10:09] <Flannel> rast4: did you follow the guide?
[10:09] <rast4> here's where I hang my head in shame and ask "what guide"
[10:09] <iter> rast4: web browser to localhost:9001 iirc
[10:09] <rast4> :(
[10:09] <Flannel> !tell rast4 about samba
[10:09] <jn> ya libc6 is newest version
[10:09] <rast4> thank you guys
[10:09] <jn> but i dont have any timezones
[10:09] <Flannel> rast4: the guide ubotu just sent you ;)  second url, at that
[10:09] <mneptok> jn: sudo cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Pacific /etc/localtime
[10:09] <trygg> fyrestrtr: /var/log/Xorg.0.log is like a billion lines, thats okay right? :D
[10:10] <rast4> excellent, here goes nothing
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> trygg: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:10] <jn> mneptok: i have no /usr/share/zoneinfo/US
[10:10] <mneptok> jn: then your installation is seriously horked
[10:11] <mneptok> jn: that directory and its children exist by default in every Ubuntu install
[10:11] <gorski> how to change language on the desktop?
[10:11] <trygg> Heh, oh
[10:11] <jn> i must have deleted it
[10:11] <mneptok> gorski: System>Admin>Language
[10:11] <Orasis1> jn recreate it then..
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> ...why would you do that?
[10:11] <Flannel> jn: randomly deleting random system files is never a good thing
[10:11] <mneptok> jn: That's Uncool(tm)
[10:11] <wide-eye> jn, try to reinstall libc then
[10:11] <jn> heh
[10:11] <Orasis1> FLannel, heh
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> That's Stupid(tm)
[10:11] <gorski> it is not working.
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> what timezone are you in jn?
[10:12] <dibblego> http://rafb.net/paste/results/RNkwSC93.html is there any obvious reason why my ethernet connection to my router won't work?
[10:12] <vinnybinny> anyone else use mame?
[10:12] <vinnybinny> xmame rather
[10:12] <jn> so apt-get remove libc6 && apt-get install libc6
[10:12] <iter> what, reinstall libc over the clock?!@!?
[10:13] <zoidberg> hey guys
[10:13] <wide-eye> jn, wouldn't remove,
[10:13] <zoidberg> a few of the sites i
[10:13] <drako> i can't figure out why this thing will not boot
[10:13] <wide-eye> jn, that would kill your install
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> jn: did you forget That's Stupid(tm)?
[10:13] <zoidberg> a fw of the sites i've been to require java runtime environment plugin for FIREFOX
[10:13] <zoidberg> how and where can i download that plugin?
[10:13] <trygg> fyrestrtr: Do you really want to see fglrxinfo? It just seems like its complaining about everything
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> !java > zoidberg
[10:14] <wide-eye> jn, if there is a way to just reapply it I would do that
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> trygg: yes
[10:14] <jn> is there?
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> jn: what timezone do you want?
[10:14] <iter> jn
[10:14] <jn> pacific
[10:14] <mneptok> jn: sec, i'll set you up
[10:14] <Orasis1> Only think I hope is that Xubuntu is updated soon, because there is a serious bug within its XFCE which makes the menu constantly fail every few days forcing the user to delete ~/.config/justin/desktop/xfce4/menu.xml..
[10:14] <iter> jn vi /etc/default/rcS
[10:14] <Orasis1> only thing* even
[10:15] <iter> change UTC=yes to UTC=no
[10:15] <iter> problem solved
[10:15] <jn> nah
[10:15] <jn> it was already UTC=no
[10:15] <iter> install ntp
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> his bigger problem is, he's missing files that are part of the base layout.
[10:15] <jn> installed
[10:15] <jn> no timezone
[10:15] <trygg> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20648 :)
[10:15] <Orasis1> fyre, Fglrx is horrible.. use "radeon" or update your card, because it is very buggy with older cards..
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> trygg: what card do you have?
[10:16] <trygg> radeon 9000
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> Orasis1: thanks for the tip, but its for trygg :)
[10:16] <trygg> I have had fglrx work on it before
[10:16] <Orasis1> fyre, ahh ;D
[10:16] <jn> what's in that Pacific file i'll make it
[10:17] <rast4> May i ask, when we use apt-get <whatever> and it downloads the program/app we are wanting, does it automatically set up that particular program?
[10:17] <Madpilot> Orasis1, is that XFCE bug filed?
[10:17] <zoidberg> if i install the java 5 runtime environment from the universal repositories....will that include the firefox plugin?
[10:17] <rast4> Like we don't need to do a make, make install, etc?
[10:17] <Madpilot> rast4, no, it does the installation & setup w/ the apt-get
[10:17] <rast4> that absolutely rocks
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> trygg: ermm, fglrx is not for your card.
[10:17] <trygg> And its smokin fast too!
[10:17] <argument> zoidberg, no
[10:18] <rast4> why did it take so long to get a flavor of *nix like this :P
[10:18] <zoidberg> argument, where can i get the firefox plugin
[10:18] <trygg> Have they upgraded it?
[10:18] <argument> !java > zoidberg
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> zoidberg: no, the plugin is something else.
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> zoidberg: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[10:18] <Zylak> hello everyone
[10:18] <iter> hmm I don't seem to have /usr/share/timezone
[10:18] <Orasis1> Madpilot, I am not sure ...
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> trygg: you need to use the radeon driver.
[10:18] <Orasis1> I doubt it though
[10:19] <trygg> fyrestrtr: Is it possible to have openGL with it? :)
[10:19] <Madpilot> Orasis1, check bugs.ubuntu.com, search for XFCE bugs
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> trygg: I don't know -- one more thing you can try....is the binary driver from ati.com
[10:19] <DARKGuy> Hm. It is possible to make the Gnome (I'm using Ubuntu) clock use 12h time format, even when I've already selected that I'm in a country that uses 12h time format? :/
[10:19] <Zylak> i'd like to know if RhythmBox has plugin support and if yes, how should i proceed to create one
[10:19] <Zylak> can someone pint me in the right direction? xD
[10:20] <Zylak> point*
[10:20] <madmax> ok... i am REALLY pissed off here... what is the difference between the edit and add buttons in the software repositories selection?
[10:20] <Orasis1> Ma
[10:20] <Orasis1> Madpilot: doing that right now.
[10:20] <madmax> cause there seems to be none... they do the same thing
[10:20] <trygg> fyrestrtr: maybe thats what i used to use. Sorry for wasting your time, it was 'Your card model is an entire number in the 9xxx series' that fooled me at the binarydriverhowto. :c
[10:20] <zsh> synaptic keeps saying "could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade" yet it reloads the repos ok. has any one come accross this problem? there isnt much info in the forums.
[10:20] <Madpilot> madmax, edit edits an existing entry, add creates a new entry, AFAIK
[10:21] <madmax> well, no... .i click add and instead of a new entry appearing i get and existing one changed
[10:21] <madmax> i can only change the number of entries by removing them... and i did... and i can't add them back
[10:21] <Geoffrey2> ok, what directory would I find wine located under?
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> DARKGuy: open up gconf-editor, apps > nautilus > preferences -- then click on date_format, and change it to 'informal'
[10:22] <madmax> try search...
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> Geoffrey2: usually, ~/.wine
[10:22] <DARKGuy> thanks a lot fyrestrtr :D
[10:22] <iter> omfg whoever came up with this interactive online sexual harassment training has a special circle of hell reserved for them
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> zsh: run sudo apt-get upgrade from the terminal.
[10:23] <mneptok> zsh: great nick ;)
[10:23] <brl4n> i don't know how you guys deal with hardware.
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> we don't buy crap hardware :)
[10:23] <DARKGuy> it has its tricks brl4n :P
[10:23] <zsh> mneptok, thanks man. fyrestrtr, will do.
[10:23] <DARKGuy> lol
[10:24] <Dromen> is there a way to administer a linux box from remote location by viewing what is on the screen of that box ??
[10:24] <arooni> hey folks i was trying to install kdesvn and i got this error checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! .....
[10:24] <brl4n> seems like all the mainstream hardware isn't supported
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> Dromen: vnc?
[10:24] <arooni> i was trying to isntall it first with ./configure
[10:24] <brl4n> seems kinda backwards to me
[10:24] <DARKGuy> Dromen: you can use VNC
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> brl4n: lol like?
[10:24] <Orasis1> Madpilot: Oh yeah it is there with quite a presence, seems like I am not the only one.. oh well will have to continue deleting menu.xml every few days until they release a fix I guess.
[10:24] <Dromen> hmm fyrestrtr i shall have a look now :)
[10:24] <DARKGuy> lol, same answer :P
[10:24] <GNAM> FAAD2 not found
[10:24] <brl4n> fyrestrtr:my linksys usb wNIC
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> arooni: sudo apt-get install kdesvn kdesvn-kio-plugins
[10:25] <brl4n> 2 hours trying to get it to work and nothing works
[10:25] <Dromen> !vnc
[10:25] <trygg> fyrestrtr: It says on ati.com's site that their ati driver (thats installing fglrx right now) supports radeon 8500, confusing stuff. :B
[10:25] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[10:26] <Dromen> and its gui yeh ???
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> yeh
[10:27] <trygg> radeon 8500 and newer*
[10:27] <Dromen> excellent, heh i only wanna admin the pc in a room about 10 feet away, how lazy
[10:27] <brl4n> fyrestrtr:if ndis-gtk or whatever is reporting the driver and the hardware is present why does't it show up in network settings
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> trygg: I don't think the ati.com driver and the driver from repos are the same. On my laptop I use the ati.com one because it has powermanagement features (and comes with a nice control panel).
[10:27] <BluDragon> hiya all
[10:27] <brl4n> do I have to restart?
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> brl4n: don't know -- all my hardware works fine (including wireless)
[10:28] <wide-eye> jn-, try to install locales, dpkg --search /usr/share/zoneinfo/PST9PDT says that is the package for it
[10:28] <brl4n> fyrestrtr:lucky\
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> brl4n: I just take a livecd to the store and pop it in before I decide on purchasing something. Tells me right away what works and what doesn't.
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> brl4n: plus, I happen to know that IBM's hardware has great linux support :D
[10:29] <brl4n> yeah i guess I have to buy hardware before software then
[10:29] <mneptok> fyrestrtr: are you in the US?
[10:29] <Inferus> Hi all, i'm trying to set up privoxy on my ubuntu box, how do I actually get to the web-interface please?
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> mneptok: no
[10:29] <brl4n> seems backwards but i guess I am
[10:29] <Inferus> or find out what port it is running on
[10:29] <dibblego> privoxy is on TCP/8118 by default
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: are you running a proxy, or trying to connect to one?
[10:29] <wide-eye> brl4n, have you tried to modprobe -r / modprobe ?
[10:29] <mneptok> fyrestrtr: too bad. IBM shareholders in the US and Canada get sweet discounts on IBM hardware.
[10:29] <Flannel> brl4n: it's because some hardware companies are more cooperative to linux (or have interfces that are easier to reverse engineer) than others
[10:29] <zsh> fyrestrtr, that upgrades all my packages, i only wanted to install a few
[10:29] <Inferus> I have the proxy installed on my ubuntu
[10:30] <Inferus> now, what i want to achieve is access the web-interface
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> mneptok: I know :( Its already expensive here as it is, but I get the company to pay for my toys :)
[10:30] <Inferus> and configure it
[10:30] <StreetSmart> whats the proper way of setting gdesklets to load with gnome does?
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> zsh: you should upgrade first, before you install.
[10:30] <Inferus> but i can't get onto it as i dont know what the port is
[10:30] <dibblego> IBM hardware for IBM employees is more expensive than competitor's hardware at retail
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> StreetSmart: system > preferences > sessions > startup tab
[10:31] <zsh> fyrestrtr, its never done that before
[10:31] <Inferus> Any idea dibblego / fyrestrtr?
[10:31] <Goblyn> is there any way to get Evolution to minimize to the system tray?
[10:31] <dibblego> Inferus, use a browser and go to port 8118
[10:31] <trygg> Goblyn: If nothing else you could use the little app 'alltray'
[10:31] <Inferus> doesnt work dibblego
[10:31] <dibblego> Inferus, then privoxy isn't running
[10:31] <Inferus> connection refused
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: are you sure its running?
[10:31] <Inferus> ok
[10:31] <brl4n> well the hardware shows up but I guess WPA isn't supported now
[10:31] <brl4n> man I can't win tonight
[10:31] <Sakunix> hi all attempting to install ubuntu-server-6.06-i386 onto one of the pc's I had laying aronud and I hit up start install and it starts to spam " [<number>,<number>]  Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block <number>"
[10:32] <Inferus> Setting up privoxy (3.0.3-5) ...
[10:32] <Inferus> Starting filtering proxy server: privoxy.
[10:32] <Inferus> :s
[10:32] <Sakunix> the numbers change each time but the message gets spamed about 50-100 times
[10:32] <zsh> fyrestrtr, today is the first time it said that "could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade"
[10:32] <brl4n> i guess I'll try linux in another 3 years
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> Sakunix: hrmm, how old is the hard disk?
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> zsh: happens from time to time.
[10:32] <Inferus> it should be running dibblego :S
[10:32] <mneptok> brl4n: WPA works perfectly for me on both my desktop and laptop
[10:32] <dibblego> cat /etc/privoxy/config | grep listen-address
[10:33] <wide-eye> lsof -i | grep privoxy
[10:33] <brl4n> mneptok:its asking for WEP key
[10:33] <zsh> fyrestrtr, ok, now i wait for 8 hours :)
[10:33] <Sakunix> fyrestrtr, it was made recently
[10:33] <brl4n> in hex
[10:33] <jn> who was helping me a sec ago?
[10:33] <mneptok> brian|lfs: network-manager-gnome?
[10:33] <jn> the time did not change after restarting gnome
[10:33] <Sakunix> fyrestrtr, it came out of an xbox console
[10:33] <Inferus> listen-address  127.0.0.1:8118
[10:34] <dibblego> telnet localhost 8118
[10:34] <brl4n> mneptok:network settings.  i guess
[10:34] <Sakunix> fyrestrtr, 10gb seagate not older than 2001
[10:34] <Inferus> dibblego:
[10:34] <Inferus> HTTP/1.0 400 Invalid header received from browser
[10:34] <Inferus> Connection closed by foreign host.
[10:34] <HeXiOn> hello. Is there a way to send a key from console to a x program? (like irxevent does with LIRC)
[10:34] <mneptok> brl4n: install network-manager-gnome and save yourself some headaches
[10:34] <www> Our hearts go out to the recent 14 victims of internet fraud.
[10:34] <dibblego> Inferus, then it is running and you're not typing the correct address in the browser
[10:35] <Inferus> well i am typing
[10:35] <Inferus> the servers ip
[10:35] <Inferus> then :8118 to access it
[10:35] <Inferus> but that doesnt work, as i think that is the port you use to actualy use the proxy
[10:35] <brl4n> mneptok:well is it that the interface just doesn't support WPA or that my driver doesnt
[10:35] <Inferus> not to configure uit
[10:35] <Inferus> it*
[10:35] <brl4n> or something else
[10:35] <DBO> www, finishing that joke will get you a quick and easy ban
[10:35] <dibblego> cat /etc/privoxy/config | grep listen-address
[10:35] <dibblego> do you see your server's IP there?
[10:35] <zsh> fyrestrtr, thanks for the help, i see you r also helping out nearly everyone else. :) God Bless You
[10:35] <mneptok> brl4n: the GNOME network prefs do not support it
[10:35] <mneptok> brl4n: install network-manager-gnome and save yourself some headaches (x2) ;)
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> Sakunix: try running badblocks on it.
[10:36] <brl4n> mneptok:i heard you the first time
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> zsh: I try :)
[10:36] <drako> can anyone help with, i'm still having problems booting the newest kernel
[10:36] <Goblyn> how do i get rhythmbox to play .ogg songs?
[10:36] <Inferus> dibblego
[10:36] <Inferus> no i dont
[10:36] <Inferus> i see localhost ip
[10:36] <Sakunix> fyrestrtr, how? not to sound like a nub or nothing lo,l
[10:36] <Inferus> my server's ip is 90.0.4.15
[10:36] <dibblego> Inferus, so there's your answer
[10:36] <gutano> can anyone here recomment a good guide for courier-webadmin? (or help me troubleshoot a little)
[10:37] <Inferus> ok
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> Sakunix: I believe its just badblocks /dev/hda
[10:37] <mneptok> fyrestrtr: PM?
[10:37] <Sakunix> need to put it into a machine with an existing install?
[10:37] <microsuck> no wonder i want to switch to windows
[10:37] <Sakunix> or gnopix or something yes fyrestrtr
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> I believe you can do it from the cd itself.
[10:37] <DBO> microsuck, thats your choice, but dont nickspam please
[10:37] <Sakunix> got a console up off the cd
[10:38] <Sakunix> and no badblocks
[10:38] <Inferus> dibblego no luck :s
[10:38] <drako> even though i do give it the apic=off switch it still doesn't boot, it just sits at "loading kernel" i'm not sure what is causing it
[10:38] <microsuck> its annoying mods that think they're god that make me want to go buy windows vista
[10:38] <Inferus> oh wait i need to restart
[10:38] <Inferus> wooooooooooo
[10:38] <dibblego> Inferus, don't put your server's IP address there unless you want to have an open proxy
[10:38] <microsuck> "oh my god! they said a naughty word like crap! ban ban ban!!!"
[10:39] <DARKGuy> Yay.
[10:39] <brl4n> mneptok:is that on CD?
[10:39] <Inferus> dibblego i have done now, and I can connect to the internet through it
[10:39] <ompaul> drako, wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions might give you some more stuff
[10:39] <DARKGuy> DBO, Eh, when they go like that, it's the best solution =(
[10:40] <Inferus> however mate, how do I get to the config screen for it please?
[10:40] <mneptok> brl4n: i think it's in main
[10:41] <brl4n> synaptic doesn't have it
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> Sakunix: hrmm, try from the desktop cd.
[10:41] <Sakunix> ok think I fond problem fyrestrtr
[10:41] <Sakunix> i look in /dev
[10:41] <Sakunix> /dev/hda is not there
[10:41] <Sakunix> this is odd
[10:41] <Orasis1> apt-get update xfce-desktop <-- is that how I update XFCE, without updating my whole dist?
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> Sakunix: dmesg should offer some hints.
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> Orasis1: just do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:42] <Sakunix> hda error all over the place
[10:42] <Inferus> Hey can anyone else help me please? I am trying to configure privoxy and I get this
[10:42] <Inferus>  This is Privoxy 3.0.3 on itadvantage.fletcherssolicitors.co.uk (90.0.4.15), port 8118, enabled
[10:42] <Sakunix> DriveStatusError
[10:42] <Inferus> When I click on the configure screen
[10:42] <brl4n> mneptok:i'm confused on where I could even obtain that
[10:43] <Sakunix> you think the HDD is still locked to the xbox motherboard?
[10:43] <Orasis1> Fyre, yeah but I would rather not update my whole system - I am pretty current I think, I am on Dapper Drake..
[10:43] <Inferus> Privoxy is not being used
[10:43] <brl4n> mneptok:searching doesn't help on ubuntu.com
[10:43] <mp3guy_> I've got a problem with my bottom panel in gnome, I'm using Xgl, and my bottom panel has a load of launcher icons on it and is set to autohide, but when I first boot only one or two icons appear and I have to restart X to fix this, what do I need to do?
[10:43] <Orasis1> fyrestrtr: Nevermind, you are right it is not the same thing. - I am not worthy :D
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> Sakunix: I don't think there is a way to do that (I've never heard of it) but it could be. I don't know much about xbox -- other than Halo and Halo 2 :)
[10:44] <mneptok> brl4n: Synaptic
[10:44] <Inferus> Guys I have privoxy running, and on certain pages I can query it for information. However the actual configuration screen does not work! Anyone have any ideas please? :S
[10:44] <brl4n> mneptok:hmm, it isn't there.
[10:45] <mneptok> brl4n: i assure you, it is. enable Universe
[10:45] <vicscandl> !apache > vicscandl
[10:45] <ebrsc> hi ! can we install packages during a live session ? Thanks
[10:45] <TLE> Hey does anybody know a good "howto patch" or "inside the patch" tutorial ?
[10:46] <vicscandl> !apache2 > vicscandl
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apache2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> TLE: cd /the/directory/of/the/source then patch -p1 < somefile.patch
[10:46] <rast4> I'm having a problem getting Swat to work, anyone have any ideas?
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> !lamp > vicscandl
[10:47] <vicscandl> yea, thats not helping... having issues with getting the server up and responding on localhost
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> vicscandl: what do you get in the logs?
[10:48] <Awesome-o2000> is there a utility that will let me adjust my cpu voltage through software anywhere?
[10:48] <brl4n> mneptok:well I have it checked and I added the CDROM and it isn't there.  this is6.06 yes?
[10:48] <TLE> fyrestrtr: thanks but it is actually not that I need to patch something. I have a patch for an older version af a package, and I want to make sure it work for the new version also, so to do that I need to understand the syntax of the patch, so I can figure out what it is doing
[10:49] <vicscandl> fyrestrtr: no errors, thats the funny part
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> TLE: I believe that patches are just diff files.
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> vicscandl: what do you get when you try to browse to http://127.0.0.1 ?
[10:50] <vicscandl> fyrestrtr: no connection, stays in 'Loading...' state
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> vicscandl: nothing in the logs?
[10:51] <vicscandl> fyrestrt: nada. one minute... gonna try something
[10:51] <DBO> Awesome-o2000, you want to adjust your vcore... in software... while your computer is running?
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> TLE: maybe the new version already has the patch?
[10:51] <rast4> is there anything on swat on the command you ops use for us?
[10:51] <Inferus> Can anyone recommend me a Linux proxy tool that comes with a web-interface please
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> rast4: /msg ubotu swat (you can play with the bot in a query window)
[10:51] <madmax> damn it... where do i send a suggestion? software properties is one of the worst proggies i've ever seen
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: squid
[10:51] <rast4> ah nifty
[10:52] <rast4> ty
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> !bugs
[10:52] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[10:52] <madmax> it's not a bug, thank you
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> madmax: :) ^^^^^
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> its the same place.
[10:52] <Inferus> fyrestrtr I have squid now, where do i get to the web interface please
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: webmin has a module for squid.
[10:52] <Inferus> oooh
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> but I think webmin is a 'no-no' in ubuntu
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> but you can be wewy wewy qwiet and use it ;)
[10:53] <Madpilot> madmax, file it as a bug, change the classification to "Wishlist"
[10:53] <vicscandl> fyrestrtr: any issues with having both apache and apache2 installed?
[10:53] <vicscandl> !beer
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <madmax> thank you
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> vicscandl: *blink* yeah, unless you configure one to listen on anything other than 80
[10:53] <mneptok> brl4n: yes, 6.06
[10:54] <rast4> there is nothing regarding swat on the samba config page :(
[10:54] <brl4n> mneptok:i'm just going to use iwconfig i guess.
[10:54] <vicscandl> fyrestrtr: more of just both being installed, not both running at the same time. ;)
[10:54] <rast4> is it a different package altogether?
[10:54] <TLE> fyrestrtr: Yes I think I've read that somewhere to, and I think I have figured out the syntaxbut I would like to be sure. so I just need to find somewhere where somebody has written "This is a patch/diff file, theis is what the different parts mean...." :: I know it doesn't, it's against the policy of the programmers, nothing illegeal or anything like that though, it just changes the way it works from what they decided is the best
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> vicscandl: I don't know about that, I have just always used apache2
[10:54] <mneptok> brl4n: path of least resistance is network-manager-gnome. enable universe and multiverse, refresh repos, and grab it.
[10:55] <brl4n> mneptok:it isn't there man
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> TLE: man diff :) -- you can patch anything. Just try it on text files first.
[10:55] <TLE> fyrestrtr: It's the window placement algorithm i metacity...
[10:56] <Kimppa> Hello. I still haven't upgraded ubuntu, but I was thinkin of making a clean install today. I just remeber that the install has somehow managed to mess upp my partitions, in other words, formated the entiren HD and not only the selected partiton. Has anyone had similar problems with the new ubuntu installer?
[10:56] <TLE> Yeah I checked the man file and it isn't what I was looking for, but I suppose your right, I could just mess a little around with on a textfile, and learn that way
[10:56] <StreetSmart> can anyone tell me how to add icons to StarterBar in gdesklets ?
[10:56] <fyrestrtr> Kimppa: no, but sounds like user error to be honest.
[10:57] <Kimppa> fyrestrtr: sounds like that to me too :)
[10:57] <fyrestrtr> StreetSmart: right click on it, and click configure.
[10:57] <fyrestrtr> Kimppa: fwiw, I always use the alternate cd. More control.
[10:57] <brl4n> mneptok:i practically have everything checked.  i search for manager- and nothing comes up so where coudl it be?
[10:57] <mneptok> brl4n: http://www.birdhouse.org/~mnep/n-m-g.png
[10:57] <Kimppa> fyrestrtr: oh, what's the difference?
[10:57] <StreetSmart> fyrestrtr: theres nothing in there to add more icons
[10:58] <mneptok> brl4n: search by name for network-manager
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> Kimppa: well, it has more options, allows you to install only the basics, has no graphical interface (for problematic hardware), etc. etc. Its what used to be the install cd.
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> StreetSmart: its somewhere.
[10:58] <brl4n> mneptok:nothing appears when i search for that
[10:59] <mneptok> brl4n: well, Works For Me(tm)
[10:59] <mneptok> brl4n: see that screenshot
[10:59] <brl4n> mneptok:you must have downloaded them then
[11:00] <Awesome-o2000> DBO, more like measure - ill be doing a bit of screwing with pins and wires evidently
[11:00] <DBO> Awesome-o2000, lmsensors can tell you
[11:00] <Awesome-o2000> pentium-m chip only runs at 1.2 in a regular socket 478 mobo
[11:00] <El_Che> any exiftol wizzards around?
[11:00] <El_Che> exiftool -DateTimeOriginal+=7.5 test
[11:00] <Awesome-o2000> DBO, nice, thx
[11:00] <El_Che> Can't add ExifIFD:DateTimeOriginal (not a List type)
[11:00] <El_Che> any clues?
[11:02] <Madpilot> !info network-manager
[11:03] <ubotu> network-manager: network management framework (daemon). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 532 kB
[11:03] <StreetSmart> anyone use starterbar for gdesklets here????
[11:04] <mneptok> ooo! we're in the /topic!
[11:04] <candyban> Hi guys
[11:04] <BluDragon> I am trying to mount a couple of NTFS partitions, but when I run mount -a i get the error "unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-fuse'" - how do I load fuse on boot? (assuming that is what I need to do)
[11:04] <candyban> Is there a way to find out which devices are "seen" by alsa? Like some sort of lspci for alsa?
[11:04] <brl4n> so my version just doesn't want to have it?
[11:04] <brl4n> this isn't worth the hassle
[11:05] <troozers_> does anyone know why ubuntu will freeze as soon as you try and power down?  started happening when I installed the nvidia drivers?
[11:05] <mneptok> brl4n: enable. the. other. repositories.
[11:05] <brl4n> mneptok:i have 'em all checked.
[11:05] <brl4n> no internet access obviously
[11:05] <rast4_> isn't swat suppose to be located in /etc/samba/swat?
[11:05] <linux_user400354> !grub
[11:05] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:06] <Inferus> Hey guys, how can I get the squid plugin for webmin plz, its not available on apt-get says no installation candidate found
[11:06] <Inferus> :s
[11:06] <Madpilot> brl4n, you've got no net access on your Ubuntu machine?
[11:06] <candyban> Anyone knows anythng about alsa?
[11:06] <brl4n> Madpilot:not yet.
[11:07] <brl4n> been trying to get it to work for like 4 hours no
[11:07] <mneptok> brl4n: well, that would explain why you can't find things in *network repositories*
[11:07] <p_masho> how do I find the ip address of my Ubuntu - ip is asigned by dhpc
[11:07] <brl4n> mneptok:i have CD disk Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (binary) checked.
[11:07] <brl4n> and all dervis
[11:08] <mneptok> brl4n: it's not on the CD.
[11:08] <Inferus> if i have a .deb file, how do i go about installing it please?
[11:08] <p_masho> oops dhcp... tia :-)
[11:08] <brl4n> blah.  i have to have network access to get network packages.  catch-22......
[11:08] <brl4n> ahh genius, genius
[11:09] <mneptok> brl4n: the machine has no wired connection?
[11:09] <linux_user400354> !squid
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about squid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <Madpilot> Inferus, double-click on it
[11:09] <linux_user400354> !alsa
[11:09] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:09] <brl4n> no.  my router is kinda far away
[11:09] <Inferus> Weird
[11:09] <Madpilot> Inferus, but first, check that whatever it is isn't in repos - far easier
[11:10] <Inferus> If i go to install webmin-squid it says webmin isnt installed, yet im sat here looking at it :S
[11:10] <linux_user400354> Inferus: dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:10] <mneptok> brl4n: something tells me that you could get the PC to the router or the router to the PC in 4 hours ;)
[11:10] <linux_user400354> anyone tried dsniff package in synaptic?
[11:10] <Inferus> thx linux_user400354
[11:10] <Inferus> doesnt work though for this file =[
[11:10] <brl4n> mneptok:why would I do that.
[11:11] <linux_user400354> Inferus: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:11] <Dromen> fyrestrtr: u there?
[11:11] <fyrestrtr> yes
[11:11] <linux_user400354> Inferus: remember though you will probably need other dependency packages since you are not using apt-get or synaptic
[11:11] <Dromen> i have vnc setup and working but its using the xfce desktop how do i change that ??
[11:11] <fyrestrtr> Dromen: what do you want it to use?
[11:12] <Dromen> to show fluxbox or gnome etc..
[11:12] <belatucadros> k anyone in here know why my BattleField 2 tells me my CD key is invalid when I try to join a server despite having a lgit copy
[11:12] <brl4n> seems odd that they couldn't just have it on the CD.
[11:12] <linux_user400354> Inferus: you could try adding the package into synaptic with apt-cache and then installing it to get the dependency packages
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> Dromen: do you have any of those installed on your machine?
[11:12] <Dromen> fyrestrtr: both have flux + gnome
[11:12] <Dromen> + kde as well
[11:13] <fyrestrtr> Dromen: just set gnome as the default session, and login, then restart vnc -- should work.
[11:13] <Dromen> ok
[11:13] <Dromen> shall try
[11:13] <belatucadros> is cedega the cause for it saying the key is invalid?
[11:14] <Dromen> i think gnome is default on both anyways
[11:14] <linux_user400354> can wine run IE7?
[11:14] <Dromen> im certain it is
[11:14] <noobie0057> hello I would like to ask for some help partitioning a usb drive
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> linux_user400354: http://appdb.winehq.org
[11:14] <mneptok> linux_user400354: the better question is "why would anyone care?" ;)
[11:14] <Madpilot> Dromen, Xubuntu uses XFCE, not Gnome
[11:14] <belatucadros> kde is default on kubuntu gnome is default on ubunta and xfce is default on Xubuntu
[11:14] <Dromen> Madpilot: one is ubuntu the other is mepis
[11:15] <Dromen> i didnt even know xfce was installed on the other
[11:15] <Madpilot> Dromen, ah, sorry, thought you were wondering about Xubuntu... my bad...
[11:15] <linux_user400354> thanks fyrestrtr
[11:15] <Dromen> nup
[11:15] <Dromen> maybe its not xfce actually
[11:15] <Dromen> dont look like any wm
[11:16] <belatucadros> Xubuntu is decent it uses Xfce as default which is a light desktop environment so nice and fast
[11:16] <NickGarvey> xubuntu is excellent
[11:16] <vicscandl> fyrestrtr: only error from apache2 is complaints about not having a FQDN and using 127.0.0.1
[11:16] <belatucadros> I use Kubuntu but for what I use my computer for its more practical
[11:16] <mneptok> Xubuntu is also not officially supported (yet?)
[11:16] <Dromen> im actually not sure if this is working right :)
[11:16] <NickGarvey> mneptok: it is
[11:16] <mneptok> NickGarvey: it's not, i promise you.
[11:17] <mneptok> NickGarvey: we develop and release it, but no support is available for it.
[11:17] <belatucadros> I would think it is supported
[11:17] <mneptok> Ubuntu and Kubuntu only. that may change.
[11:18] <rast4_> does anyone have experience with SWAT? I've been reading the pages, but I can't even find the proper files. According to Synaptc, I installed it.
[11:18] <Spydon> !mp3
[11:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:18] <Inferus> Anyone able to help me out here please: configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[11:18] <belatucadros> Im sure it will cause for some Xubuntu would be a good enviro especially if they put it on the server side being that its such a light enviro
[11:18] <noobie0057> how can use cfdisk on a usb drive ?  I mean how can I find the path to the drive
[11:18] <mneptok> Inferus: install libstc++-dev
[11:18] <Selig5>   /join opera-users
[11:18] <Dromen> inferus
[11:18] <mneptok> Selig5: i think you want to be on OperaNet ;)
[11:18] <Dromen> sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[11:19] <Inferus> k
[11:19] <Dromen> u need build essentials
[11:19] <Selig5> thanks
[11:19] <Dromen> not sure if that will work 100% if not search synaptic
[11:19] <Inferus> thank you
[11:19] <NickGarvey> mneptok: I thought it was because of "Today sees the release of Xubuntu 6.06.1 LTS (Long Term Support). "
[11:19] <mneptok> Inferus: but the particular problem of not being able to create executables is due to not having C++ dev libs/headers
[11:19] <Dromen> yes
[11:19] <Inferus> checking for lber.h... no
[11:19] <Dromen> http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1bu6.png
[11:19] <Inferus> checking for ldap.h... no
[11:19] <Inferus> configure: error: could not locate <ldap.h>
[11:20] <Dromen> thats what it looks like
[11:20] <belatucadros> well apt-get can't find build essentials
[11:20] <Dromen> which sucks ass
[11:20] <NickGarvey> belatucadros: drop the s,
[11:20] <Inferus> how on earth do i find out what ldap.h is?!
[11:20] <mneptok> NickGarvey: "LTS" refers to updates and fixes, not official Canonical support.
[11:20] <Dromen> fyrestrtr:  any ideas?
[11:20] <NickGarvey> belatucadros: buildessential
[11:20] <belatucadros> ah ic
[11:20] <Inferus> build-essential it is
[11:20] <Dromen> :)
[11:20] <belatucadros> there we go
[11:20] <NickGarvey> mneptok: ah, I understand
[11:20] <Dromen> hope it works
[11:20] <NickGarvey> Inferus: heh ja
[11:20] <NickGarvey> Inferus: silly -
[11:20] <Inferus> anyone tell me what ldap.h is please?
[11:20] <mneptok> Inferus: ldap.h is an LDAP header
[11:20] <Inferus> ok
[11:21] <Dromen> :(
[11:21] <mneptok> Lightweight Directory Access Protocol
[11:21] <fyrestrtr> you probably need ldap dev package though, not build-essential
[11:21] <freaky_> hola, is it possible to enable the gnome remote desktop thingy from the shell? can only access the machine remote through ssh... would have sworn it was on :/
[11:21] <fyrestrtr> Dromen: sorry, no.
[11:21] <Dromen> it looks messed up
[11:21] <Inferus> im trying to install LDAP support for squid authentication
[11:21] <belatucadros> I still can't figure how BF2 sees my cd key as invalid online :s
[11:21] <freaky_> the user does automatically log on btw, so X is running under that user
[11:21] <DigitalGheko> !multiverse
[11:21] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:21] <brl4n> mneptok:thanks for your help
[11:21] <noobie0057> how can I partition a usb drive?
[11:22] <freaky_> belatucadros: bf2 sucks (and i'm a fanatic player... the game is buggy as hell)
[11:22] <NickGarvey> mneptok: Technical Support for Xubuntu 6.06 is available from a variety of sources: from the community, from *Canonical Ltd*, ...,mailing lists and IRC channels:
[11:22] <Inferus> im trying to install LDAP support for squid authentication but I can't get it sorted :s
[11:22] <NickGarvey> mneptok: I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just very confused
[11:22] <mneptok> NickGarvey: that's incorrect, and i'll fix it now.
[11:22] <freaky_> belatucadros: i have a friend that had the same thing under windows, he had to reinstall it btw...
[11:22] <NickGarvey> mneptok: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XubuntuDapperReleaseNotes#head-020b827005e24488cfa5b1847b4e670603bea13d
[11:22] <mneptok> NickGarvey: URL?
[11:22] <mneptok> thanks
[11:22] <belatucadros> it works fine on windows just not online with cedega
[11:22] <freaky_> anyone on the gnome thingy?
[11:23] <freaky_> belatucadros: like i said, my friend had the same under windows :) so perhaps it's not a cedega thingy
[11:23] <belatucadros> yes but Ive never had probs with it on windows this is the first time Ive had a prob
[11:23] <Spydon> i cant listen to any music can somebody help me?
[11:24] <belatucadros> Spydon try sudo apt-get install xmms
[11:24] <mneptok> Spydon: sudo apt-get install ears ? ;)
[11:24] <Spydon> ok
[11:24] <Spydon> hehe
[11:24] <belatucadros> xmms has mp3 support automatically
[11:24] <mneptok> Spydon: what app do you *want* to use?
[11:24] <Spydon> but ogg doesnt work either
[11:24] <mneptok> Spydon: Rhyhtmbox?
[11:25] <belatucadros> if ogg don't work you got bigger probs lol
[11:25] <mneptok> Spydon: check the mixer settings. do you get a sound at the login prompt? during GNOME start up?
[11:25] <Spydon> nope no music works
[11:25] <Inferus> im installing xubuntu ^_^
[11:25] <Spydon> yes im getting sound at startup
[11:25] <freaky_> Spydon: no music, or no sound at all
[11:25] <Spydon> no music
[11:25] <Spydon> sound works
[11:25] <Inferus> mp3 playback is fudged?
[11:25] <belatucadros> bah in the words of Linus Torvalds don't go near gnome use KDE lol
[11:25] <mneptok> Spydon: then check the GNOME volume adjuster
[11:25] <linux_user400354> Spydon: do you have 2 or more video cards?
[11:25] <NickGarvey> Spydon: (phew), no sound would be a whole other ball game
[11:26] <Inferus> lol belatucadros, he really say that?
[11:26] <belatucadros> he recommends KDE as far as Ive heard lol
[11:26] <Spydon> no i think i just have 1
[11:26] <Inferus> weird
[11:26] <Inferus> :)
[11:26] <NickGarvey> Inferus: yeah he ddi
[11:26] <mneptok> Inferus: Linus uses KDE because he likes the customizability. i use GNOME because i like the consistency and quality.
[11:26] <Inferus> :>
[11:27] <mneptok> NickGarvey: just checking with Mark to see if i can edit that page. nice catch. thanks.
[11:27] <belatucadros> KDE has much better quality and the consistency is really no different
[11:27] <NickGarvey> Inferus: http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS6060826007.html
[11:27] <NickGarvey> mneptok: yup
[11:27] <belatucadros> I say that cause Ive used both and added xfce to the mix along the waay
[11:28] <Spydon> is the GNOME volume adjuster the speaker in the right upper corner?
[11:28] <linux_user400354> Dromen: how did you get your desktop to look like that? is it all just a theme? what all did you have to do?
[11:28] <mneptok> Spydon: it is
[11:28] <Spydon> is it is my sound i on full volume and not muted
[11:28] <Dromen> look like what?
[11:28] <linux_user400354> Dromen: different than ubuntu looks by default
[11:28] <zanpakuto> hello, anyone with ibm ipssend or serveraid 7k experience?
[11:28] <mneptok> Spydon: what are you using to play the .ogg file(s)?
[11:29] <Dromen> ah yeh i changed most of it
[11:29] <belatucadros> bah anything invloving mandriva is crap
[11:29] <Spydon> idk ive tested alot of programs, nothing works
[11:29] <linux_user400354> Dromen: you need to add some things in your ~.vnc/xstartup
[11:29] <belatucadros> mandriva is decent for noobs but if you want to actually do stuff I find debian based distros are the best
[11:30] <riaal> easyest burning software for ubuntu?
[11:30] <freaky_> zanpakuto: nope, just an adaptec raid using I2O driver, runs great tho'
[11:30] <Dromen> linux_user400354: such as ?
[11:30] <linux_user400354> riaal: gnomebaker
[11:30] <Dromen> linux_user400354:  http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotrq5.png
[11:30] <Dromen> is my desktop atm
[11:30] <riaal> linux_user400354: thanks
[11:30] <angelo> Ciao raga, ma per usare wine, quando inserisco il nome del progr devo inserire tutto il path?
[11:31] <linux_user400354> riaal: if you are trying to create a music cd, you can use serpentine that comes with ubuntu in Applications>Music
[11:31] <belatucadros> actually another thing I don't like about gnome is the dual bars in it... that annoys the hell out of me
[11:31] <zanpakuto> freaky_, i see
[11:31] <freaky_> words of wisdom on the desktop
[11:31] <mjr> belatucadros, you can easily drag the necessary stuff to one bar and then delete the other one
[11:31] <mneptok> s/wisdom/naivete/ ;)
[11:31] <riaal> linux_user400354:  oh, think i need something like dvd decrypter
[11:31] <freaky_> belatucadros: got a suse 10.1 install here, somehow they managed to make it 1 bar.... don't ask me how :P
[11:31] <linux_user400354> Dromen: i can tell you changed it, but what did you do.
[11:32] <belatucadros> yea but still its a pain that you don't get with kde on the bat
[11:32] <Spydon> yeah thx teh gxine thingy works
[11:32] <mneptok> linux_user400354: http://www.gnome-look.org
[11:32] <Spydon> bye and thx
[11:32] <belatucadros> yea I dislike suse to its way to restricted
[11:32] <Dromen> changed background
[11:32] <freaky_> belatucadros: problems are in the eye of the beholder :D
[11:32] <belatucadros> true
[11:32] <Dromen> changed icons, about it and changed colours
[11:32] <freaky_> it's opensuse btw
[11:32] <linux_user400354> riaal: gnomebaker might be able to do the same functions as dvd decrypter, but if not, you can check a program that automatrix installs. it says dvd rip when automatrix installs it, but im not sure of the name of the program.
[11:32] <Dromen> i just added a new menu thingy too
[11:33] <freaky_> zanpakuto: did you run into troubles, or haven't tried it yet?
[11:33] <belatucadros> whatever open suse  suse all the same to me but like I said it falls into the same category as redhat 9 and mandriva/mandrake distros as being far to limited in what you can do on it
[11:34] <riaal> linux_user400354: okey, thanks a lot
[11:34] <linux_user400354> mneptok: besides moving your taskbar from the top to the bottom, was all you did just install a theme from gnome-look.org?
[11:34] <Dromen> linux_user400354: what do i need to change in my xstartup
[11:34] <freaky_> belatucadros: i don't care about the distro, i don't like it either, but it's one of those distro's supported by closed source apps (they usually only support 3-4) that's why i have it running so i can test some stuff quickly (i love vmware server :D)
[11:34] <mneptok> linux_user400354: i think you mean Dromen
[11:34] <belatucadros> yea where can you get themes for kubuntu anyway?
[11:35] <zanpakuto> freaky_, I am pretty new with hardware RAID. sent a command ipssend synch 1 1 . Its not finished 'synching' , so I looked at the logs, and I saw those messages I mentione earlier. I was wondering if its normal :)
[11:35] <Dromen> no
[11:35] <linux_user400354> Dromen: besides moving your taskbar from the top to the bottom, was all you did just install a theme from gnome-look.org?
[11:35] <mneptok> linux_user400354: but yes, with a theme for GNOME, metacity, and an icon set, things can look really different
[11:35] <CBMz> Hey all
[11:35] <Dromen> i changed other stuff
[11:35] <Dromen> and used multiple themes
[11:35] <linux_user400354> Dromen: why dont you use vino instead?
[11:35] <freaky_> zanpakuto: didn't see those sorry. when RAID has just been setup, depending on the raid controller, it can take several hours before the disks are synced
[11:35] <Dromen> no i dunno what that is?
[11:36] <Dromen> !vino
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vino - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <Inferus> this is peeing me off now
[11:36] <belatucadros> I would love to see what kinds of themes I could get for kubuntu so long as they arent a pain to install lol
[11:36] <Inferus> checking for lber.h... no
[11:36] <Inferus> checking for ldap.h... no
[11:36] <Inferus> configure: error: could not locate <ldap.h>
[11:36] <Inferus> Can't find ldap.h and i dont know what I need?
[11:36] <linux_user400354> Dromen: apt-cache search vino
[11:36] <Dromen> what is it?
[11:36] <linux_user400354> Dromen: apt-cache show vino
[11:37] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: sudo apt-get install libdap2 libldap2-dev
[11:37] <Dromen> hmm ok
[11:37] <mneptok> Inferus: sudo apt-get install libldap2-dev
[11:37] <zanpakuto> freaky_,  oh my bad. did not post the message here sorry! here it is (kernel log), "program ipssend not setting count and/or reply_len properly"
[11:37] <Dromen> linux_user400354: is that easy to setup?
[11:37] <linux_user400354> Dromen: is the computer that you are trying to vnc to running gnome?
[11:37] <zanpakuto> freaky_,  kernel: sg_write: data in/out 4304/4304 bytes for SCSI command 0xd--guessing data in;
[11:37] <Dromen> yes
[11:37] <Mukunda> I've just tried to get Xgl going on my system and something has killed direct rendering, is this common, and how do I fix it?
[11:37] <Dromen> both are
[11:37] <fyrestrtr> mneptok: is there a way to set passive ftp in nautilus?
[11:38] <fyrestrtr> Mukunda: this is normal with xgl.
[11:38] <Inferus> yaaaaaaaay
[11:38] <linux_user400354> Dromen: yes, it is much better, and you probably already have it installed without knowing
[11:38] <Inferus> sorted thanks mneptok fyrestrtr
[11:38] <noobie0057> I'm trying to use cfdisk to partition a usb drive,, how can I find the partition
[11:38] <Dromen> linux_user400354: ok know a howto??
[11:38] <riaal> Anyone knows if it is possible to write dvd immages whit K3B (like whit DVD-decrypter for win)?
[11:38] <Dromen> linux_user400354: if ur interested in eye candy try that http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledjn7.jpg
[11:38] <fyrestrtr> noobie0057: mount
[11:38] <Mukunda> fyrestrtr: okay, think I can fix it. thanks.
[11:39] <Inferus> guys what do i do after i've done ./configure please?
[11:39] <freaky_> zanpakuto: never seen those... dunno how good the driver is either, usually they first get things running, management apps n such usually come later
[11:39] <mneptok> fyrestrtr: iirc, it defaults to PASV
[11:39] <freaky_> zanpakuto: seems to be just info tho'...
[11:39] <noobie0057> fyrestrtr it is mounted
[11:39] <noobie0057> I just don't know the location for the cfdisk command
[11:39] <fyrestrtr> mneptok: I have a real problem with FTP -- dog slow with nautilus, very fast from the cli.
[11:39] <mneptok> Inferus: ./configure -> make -> sudo make install
[11:39] <zanpakuto> freaky_, Ok.
[11:39] <mneptok> fyrestrtr: yeah, Nautilus' FTP implementation needs help. or fire.
[11:40] <linux_user400354> Dromen: you don't need a howto. System>Prefs>Remote Desktop
[11:40] <Dromen> oh ok
[11:40] <Inferus> mneptok: i did that and got a big list of erros
[11:40] <Dromen> nice
[11:40] <Inferus> errors*
[11:40] <Inferus> :S
[11:40] <vicscandl> is apache started from somewhere other than /etc/init.d/apache2 ?
[11:40] <mneptok> Inferus: but did it compile and install?
[11:40] <Inferus> ./configure went through fine
[11:40] <gnomefreak> Inferus: now run make
[11:41] <fyrestrtr> noobie0057: sudo updatedb && which cfdisk
[11:41] <noobie0057> cfdisk /dev/sda or somewhere else ?
[11:41] <Inferus> pam_ldap.c:3910: warning: passing argument 1 of _conv_sendmsg from incompatible pointer type
[11:41] <Inferus> pam_ldap.c:3922: warning: passing argument 1 of _conv_sendmsg from incompatible pointer type
[11:41] <Inferus> pam_ldap.c:3932: warning: passing argument 1 of _conv_sendmsg from incompatible pointer type
[11:41] <Inferus> pam_ldap.c:3942: warning: passing argument 1 of _conv_sendmsg from incompatible pointer type
[11:41] <Inferus> pam_ldap.c:3951: warning: passing argument 1 of _conv_sendmsg from incompatible pointer type
[11:41] <Inferus> make: *** [pam_ldap.o]  Error 1
[11:41] <Inferus> and more ^
[11:41] <Dromen> linux_user400354: wow i already got it  =)
[11:41] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: don't worry about those.
[11:41] <gnomefreak> Inferus: dont paste in here
[11:41] <Dromen> madness
[11:41] <mneptok> Inferus: warnings are par for the course. most devs are lazy about removing them.
[11:41] <Inferus> yea
[11:41] <vicscandl> spamalamadingdong!
[11:41] <zanpakuto> freaky_, am I right to assume that if the raid controller is installed and the two hard disk setup as raid 1 . When I installed ubuntu there, only 1 drive gets seen. Am I assumming right that the 'mirroring' aspect is already being done on the background?
[11:41] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: what are you trying to build anyway?
[11:41] <Inferus> make: *** [pam_ldap.o]  Error 1
[11:41] <Inferus> ^^
[11:41] <riaal> what program can burn DVD immages as DVD-decrypter
[11:41] <Inferus> that
[11:42] <Inferus> pam_ldap
[11:42] <Inferus> so i can use ldap authentication on my squid proxy
[11:42] <fyrestrtr> riaal: do you mean dvd iso files? Or dvd movies?
[11:42] <Dromen> linux_user400354: what command do i issue to connect to pc?
[11:42] <ajmitch> Inferus: why are you trying to compile pam_ldap? is the package in universe not suitable?
[11:42] <specht> huhu
[11:42] <freaky_> zanpakuto: yes, the controller will show the RAID-1 as a single disk to the OS
[11:42] <linux_user400354> vncviewer hostip
[11:42] <CBMz> Hey all
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: sudo apt-get install libpam-ldap
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: *always* search first.
[11:43] <Inferus> doh
[11:43] <Inferus> thanks
[11:43] <Inferus> :D
[11:43] <freaky_> zanpakuto: true hardware raid always does that, it only shows what they call the logical disks to the os
[11:43] <CBMz> Anyone knows the wine channel?
[11:43] <Inferus> search on where fyrestrtr?
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> !software
[11:43] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> there ^^^
[11:43] <Dromen> same thing
[11:43] <Inferus> kk ty
[11:43] <Inferus> im guessing
[11:43] <Dromen> no desktop just blank thingy
[11:43] <Inferus> ldap server host
[11:43] <zanpakuto> freaky_, so does it mean mirroring will work without doing anything?
[11:43] <Dromen> i try other way round
[11:43] <Inferus> is my domain server
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: its where ldap is running.
[11:44] <freaky_> zanpakuto: it should.. some bad hardware raid controllers (but have only seen this with IDE raid controllers) sometimes present both the IDE disks and the logical disk (the raid set) which is crappy. never seen it with real raid controllers tho (scsi ones)
[11:44] <Inferus> well fyrestrtr its not ldap, its microsoft network :)
[11:44] <Dromen> linux_user400354: it worked =)
[11:44] <linux_user400354> Dromen: good
[11:45] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: wait, you want to get squid to authenticate against active directory?
[11:45] <freaky_> zanpakuto: what's your disk? /dev/sda? do a 'dmesg | grep sda' and see what name/brand/etc the disk has
[11:45] <mneptok> "Microsoft" and "network" are two words that should never be brought within 3 light years of one another.
[11:45] <fyrestrtr> freaky_: lshw works better for that :)
[11:45] <Dromen> linux_user400354: how do i set it not ask for permission each time?
[11:45] <freaky_> mneptok: heh, why? they just stole the bsd ip stack :D
[11:45] <linux_user400354> Dromen: can you tell me how you got that eye candy in the last picture and what theme you are using to make your computer look like os-x
[11:45] <freaky_> fyrestrtr: hmm dunno that one yet :) usually just browse /proc :D
[11:45] <Dromen> i will one sec
[11:46] <linux_user400354> Dromen: /usr/bin/vino-preferences
[11:46] <freaky_> fyrestrtr: is that installed by default/
[11:46] <mneptok> freaky_: that's like saying "this is a good car, beacuse they stole the cigarette lighter from a Bugatti!"
[11:46] <fyrestrtr> I don't think they 'stole' it, wasn't it released?
[11:46] <freaky_> mneptok: hehe sort of, but atleast the cigaret lighter is a good one :P
[11:47] <noobie0057> fyrestrtr: your command returned /sbin/cfdisk  ?? I don't understand I want to know what command to supply cfdisk to create a 2 partition usb drive
[11:47] <fyrestrtr> bugatti's don't come with cigarette lighters :P
[11:47] <freaky_> fyrestrtr: yea yea it's licensed and they mention it :D
[11:47] <mneptok> freaky_: little consolation when you get into an accident and learn the bumpers are origami.
[11:47] <fyrestrtr> noobie0057: you need to read the manual for it.
[11:47] <gudalo> hi all
[11:48] <fyrestrtr> freaky_: there are plenty of things about Windows to complain about, lets not start making them up though.
[11:48] <freaky_> mneptok: the software ain't always that bad... it's just the company and it's morality
[11:48] <freaky_> fyrestrtr: linux has it's disadvantages as well, use what you need, when you need it
[11:48] <mneptok> there you go using words like "Microsoft" and "morality" together again
[11:48] <fyrestrtr> yeah, and right now, I need a drink -- so brb
[11:49] <freaky_> mneptok: hehe :)
[11:49] <njan> mneptok, now now, be nice :)
[11:49] <mneptok> njan: see Bug #1
[11:49] <mneptok> ;)
[11:49] <zanpakuto> freaky_, yep its /dev/sda.
[11:49] <Ng> discussions about morality are definitely off-topic for this channel
[11:49] <freaky_> mneptok: link? :P
[11:49] <njan> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1
[11:50] <freaky_> zanpakuto: what does the 'dmesg | grep sda' tell you? or lshw, still compiling it myself (on gentoo, run ubuntu on my vmware server as the host os)
[11:50] <njan> and there's no mention of morality in it.. bug no. 1 only explicitly refers to marketshare and productivity. It cites free software as a good replacement, but it doesn't make any value judgements as to whether that's better or more desirable other than by means of the added productivity it provides.
[11:50] <mneptok> freaky_: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[11:50] <freeze_> I recently installed Ubuntu 6.06 on an old box we use for administrative tasks. installation went fine, only resolution was stuck at 640x480. This was solved by editing xorg.conf (added HorizRefresh and VertSync in monitor section). Resolution is fine now but I can't lock my screen either by using the standard logoff dialog nor by using the lock screen button i added to the gimp bar
[11:51] <njan> It says non-free software is "restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential, globally."
[11:51] <freeze_> any ideas?
[11:51] <Ng> freeze_: check gnome-screensaver is running
[11:51] <freaky_> haha nice
[11:51] <njan> Which doesn't either espouse anything morally, or justify bashing of any software vendor in particular ;)
[11:51] <Inferus> lets be honest
[11:52] <Inferus> ms arent gonna turn around and say linux is good now are they
[11:52] <Inferus> make no business sense to
[11:52] <Inferus> :)
[11:52] <freeze_> Ng: doesn't seem to be, why not? ;)
[11:52] <mneptok> njan: i think it quite pointedly bashes Microsoft. you don;t see Apple mentioned there, depsite their proprietary software.
[11:52] <Ng> freeze_: possibly it died or something. hit alt-f2 and run it from there
[11:52] <Ng> Inferus: mneptok njan: could you continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[11:52] <Inferus> My companies IT strategy is to use as much open source software as possible :)
[11:53] <freeze_> Ng: Excellent, that solved it, thanks very much
[11:53] <zanpakuto> freaky_, servers been up for a while so dmesg |grep sda returns nothing
[11:53] <freeze_> Ng: hope it starts automatically at next boot up
[11:54] <Ng> freeze_: it ought to be saved in your session next time you log out
[11:54] <Ng> zanpakuto: grep sda /var/log/dmesg
[11:54] <freaky_> zanpakuto: the lshw looks very nice :) a long output
[11:54] <fyrestrtr> mneptok: apple is just bsd with a shiny wrapper.
[11:54] <mneptok> fyrestrtr: not really. they don;t use a BSD kernel.
[11:55] <rambo3> apple is a company
[11:55] <Ng> apple is off-topic, please discuss it elsewhere ;p
[11:56] <freeze_> another thing: after the fresh install i did an update, updating 165 packages, the updater stopped at capplets-data (or something similar) and seemed to be stuck. the process scrollkeeper was running at 100PU, i killed it manually and everything went on from there, the updater skipping the packages that relied on that one. after all were complete the updater tried the respective packages again and all looked good the second time. it showed an error for the 
[11:56] <freeze_> as that error for the first try or did something go wrong?
[11:57] <rambo3> tryed -f flag with install
[11:57] <riaal> how to unpack rar files? =P
[11:57] <Ng> freeze_: scrollkeeper can take a while to rebuild things. how long did you wait before killing it?
[11:57] <Thunderpants> riaal, unrar
[11:57] <Ng> riaal: install rar or unrar from multiverse
[11:57] <zanpakuto> Ng, freaky_ : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20649
[11:57] <Ng> riaal: you should then be able to use the regular archive manager
[11:57] <freeze_> Ng: I waited about 7 Minutes...then I got nervous
[11:58] <Ng> freeze_: hmm, that does seem unusually long. perhaps it got itself confused and hung
[11:59] <fyrestrtr> what does scrollkeeper do anyway?
[11:59] <freeze_> Ng: the capplets package installed very quickly on the second try...perhaps scrollkeeper didn't try again?
[11:59] <freeze_> Ng: So should I just hope everything is fine?
[11:59] <Ng> freeze_: it may have skipped over it, or managed to work the second time
[11:59] <shaantanu> !vmware
[11:59] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[11:59] <compengi> what's the newest kernel?
[11:59] <Ng> fyrestrtr: it indexes various bits of gnome documentation afaik
[11:59] <Ng> compengi: in dapper, 2.6.15-26
[11:59] <freeze_> Ng: So the second time, after all updates are complete, does completely try the packages again right?
[11:59] <shaantanu> hey can somebody tell me how much disk space do i need to have if i plan to go for vmwar
[11:59] <shaantanu> e
[11:59] <compengi> Ng ty :)
[12:00] <freeze_> Ng: Otherwise it should still show in available updates?
[12:00] <riaal> Ng: thanks a lot
[12:00] <Ng> freeze_: if apt/updatemanager says you are up-to-date, you are. The only thing you might be missing would be some of the gnome documentation, but I'm not sure that's worth worrying about ;)
[12:00] <fyrestrtr> shaantanu: enough for ubuntu + your guest os + vmware binaries.  You should be more worried about ram.
[12:00] <freeze_> Ng: Thanks. you have been extremely helpful :)
[12:01] <lassegs> does anyone know if the Creative Zen Vision:M runs with ubuntu?
[12:01] <freeze_> Oh another thing: I remember when installing Ubuntu the last time about a year ago that it made sense to add more repositories (Multiverse?) is there a guide how and where to do that?
[12:01] <linux_user400354> !eyecandy
[12:01] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy
[12:02] <Ng> freeze_: yep
[12:02] <Ng> !repos > freeze_
[12:02] <zyclop> greetings, fellow users
[12:02] <freeze_> great. thanks
[12:03] <twisted> ey, I got a question, booting ubuntu takes _ages_, I got a SCSI hdd, but... it seems to take forever (approx 20-30sec) to "Mount root"
[12:03] <twisted> how can I check what the hell it is tryin to do, and how I can make it stop doing it so it just... speeds up?
[12:03] <Inferus> guys, when i do a find "something" it takes 0 time at all, and never returns results, am i missing something plaese?
[12:03] <Inferus> please*
[12:04] <twisted> Inferus: find . -name "bla"
[12:04] <twisted> Inferus: u mean that?
[12:04] <Inferus> yea
[12:04] <tomasz> hi - I'm having serious problems with debugging a simple C code -> quite random exceptions from _mcleanup () function in libc.so.6 occure quite ofthen. it wasn't the case for the previous version of Ubuntu. did anybody complain about similar issues ? thanks
[12:04] <Thunderpants> does vmware player allow me to install windows or do i need vmware workstation for that?
[12:04] <Inferus> thx
[12:04] <rambo3> i like locate more
[12:04] <twisted> Inferus: in that case it will only find "bla" and not "blabla"
[12:04] <Inferus> ok
[12:04] <twisted> Inferus: so use: find . -name "bla*" afaik
[12:05] <twisted> rambo3: locate is ok, but annoying cause it gotta be updated... rlocate is kewl, but very cpu expensive and still very unstable...
[12:05] <freaky_> how safe is that lshw tool? it appears to hang...
[12:05] <twisted> Thunderpants: you can
[12:05] <Thunderpants> thx twisted
[12:05] <freaky_> can't kill it either
[12:05] <twisted> Thunderpants: http://johnbokma.com/mexit/2005/10/26/vmware-player-windows-xp.html
[12:06] <daurn|laptop> hi all
[12:06] <twisted> Thunderpants: but then again, why not use VMWare Server? it's free like the player...
[12:06] <shaantan1> !vmware
[12:06] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[12:06] <daurn|laptop> i just burnt an ubuntu cd
[12:06] <Inferus> thanks twisted
[12:06] <daurn|laptop> booted it
[12:07] <daurn|laptop> and i get to the boot menu
[12:07] <daurn|laptop> but, when i choose an option
[12:07] <daurn|laptop> it says error
[12:07] <daurn|laptop> and MUST reboot
[12:07] <Thunderpants> thx twisted i'll have a read up
[12:07] <twisted> Thunderpants: np
[12:07] <Inferus> daurn|laptop are you trying to run it on your laptop ?
[12:07] <daurn|laptop> no
[12:07] <daurn|laptop> lol
[12:07] <Inferus> oh
[12:07] <daurn|laptop> deskto
[12:07] <shaantan1> i m plaing to go for vmware how much space shud i have on my disk ??
[12:07] <freeze_> Ng: oh my i think i really managed to delete my source source now
[12:07] <freaky_> shaantan1: uh how would we know?
[12:08] <Inferus> by the way, does anyone know how I can get ubuntu to install, and run at a 16:10 resolution please?
[12:08] <zyclop> I'm having some problems with my network: ping works in one direction but not in the other
[12:08] <daurn|laptop> so, what do i do?
[12:08] <twisted> shaantan1: well, depends on the os
[12:08] <riaal> I just installed "unrar -free" but i can't find the program?
[12:08] <shaantan1> ubuntu and windows
[12:08] <freaky_> shaantan1: in vmware you're going to run virtual machines, that will be your biggest concern determining diskspace, since i can't determine how much diskspace you want to assign to the guests, only you can decide
[12:08] <shaantan1> but to download and install .. how much space is needed
[12:09] <jneves> Has anyone seen something like this: [4294691.150000]  ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:09.1[B] : no GSI - using IRQ 11
[12:09] <jneves> [4294696.309000]   [<c013e7fc>]  __do_IRQ+0xbc/0xe0
[12:09] <jneves> [4294696.309000]   [<c010597a>]  do_IRQ+0x1a/0x30
[12:09] <jneves> [4294696.309000]  Disabling IRQ #11
[12:09] <shaantan1> I just have 1 ext3 partition with 1.2 GB left on iit
[12:09] <jneves> it's an adaptec controller
[12:09] <daurn|laptop> OHHH
[12:09] <daurn|laptop> the download is corrupt
[12:09] <daurn|laptop> damn
[12:09] <riaal> how hard can it be to unrar some files? =S
[12:09] <shaantan1> laptop : way to go
[12:09] <daurn|laptop> how can i repair without totally redownloading?
[12:09] <mneptok> riaal: not hard if you install unrar
[12:10] <riaal> mneptok: I did, the "free one", now what?
[12:10] <jneves> riaal: without a definition of the format? you'll need the proprietary program that's in multiverse
[12:10] <mneptok> now unrar the file
[12:10] <freaky_> shaantan1: workstation, server, esx... etc... 150-200 mb should be enough to install server i think
[12:10] <daurn|laptop> that was a great use of 2 blank cds
[12:10] <riaal> jneves: ??
[12:10] <jneves> riaal: unrar-free -x file.rar
[12:10] <shaantan1> whats the total download size .. any idea ??
[12:10] <freaky_> riaal: rar offers linux binaries
[12:10] <shaantan1> freaky_:
[12:10] <jneves> riaal: it might not work - you'll notice
[12:10] <daurn|laptop> how can i repair without totally redownloading?
[12:11] <twisted> bbl
[12:11] <freeze_> I think i accidentally deleted my Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (source) channel...is there a way to get it back?
[12:11] <fyrestrtr> !easysource
[12:11] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:12] <andres> Does anybody knows the reason why ubuntu doesnt use a new enough apt to support diffs for the Packages and Sources list?
[12:12] <andres> This saves quite much bandwith/time
[12:12] <riaal> jneves: I got "failed" ye, what did i do wrong? is the "fee" one the wrong version?
[12:12] <zcat[1] > would save even more time if every new version of OOo could be diffs instead of a 120M download :)
[12:13] <jneves> riaal: the free version doesn't support all versions of rar
[12:13] <jneves> riaal: you need the non-free version in multiverse
[12:13] <andres> zcat[1] , thats also planned afaik.
[12:14] <riaal> jneves: multiverse? hold on a sec
[12:14] <andres> zcat[1] , but the diffindex thingie is in debian testing for some time i think.
[12:14] <riaal> jneves: what address? =S
[12:14] <jneves> riaal: it's a repository
[12:15] <fyrestrtr> !multiverse
[12:15] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:15] <riaal> jneves: whats that? =S
[12:15] <wthww>  i finally figured out why my comp wouldnt boot ubuntu
[12:15] <freeze_> is there a way to get the repositories back to standard values? i cant get my sources repository back through th UI it seems
[12:15] <wthww> ram.
[12:15] <fyrestrtr> !easysource > freeze_
[12:16] <riaal> jneves: oh, so "not free" is free? :D
[12:16] <jneves> free as in beer, not free as in freedom
[12:16] <fyrestrtr> it has to do with source, not price.
[12:20] <IRCMonkeyX> hi, should i install winrar via wine ?
[12:20] <yeager> ircmonkeyx: why?
[12:20] <fyrestrtr> why do you want winrar? You can use unrar from repos
[12:20] <fyrestrtr> !rar > IRCMonkeyX
[12:20] <IRCMonkeyX> ok thanx, let me download unrar
[12:23] <Inferus> i do not understand linux =[
[12:23] <arooni> when i grep thru a directory, is it possible to tell it not to search thru svn stuff?
[12:23] <arooni> and just regular files?
[12:23] <fyrestrtr> arooni: define 'svn stuff'
[12:23] <romanov> Hi all! Is anyone try read hotmail emails with Kmail and gotmail... Last ninght I try anything but not work me, any ideas is more than wellcome...
[12:24] <arooni> fyrestrtr: anything inside a .svn subversion file
[12:24] <Flannel> arooni: svn stuff are just regular files ;)
[12:24] <arooni> i belive they are hidden
[12:24] <arooni> Flannel: well i would like not to search them if possible
[12:24] <Inferus> bloody stupid thing =[ webmin cant connect to my ldap server, well active directory anyway
[12:24] <Inferus> anyone have any ideas?
[12:24] <arooni> as its just duplicate results
[12:25] <IRCMonkeyX> fyrestrtr: i downloadad unrar, but i still cant open the package that is at my desktop which is a rar file made in xp ?
[12:25] <daurn|laptop> any1?
[12:25] <fyrestrtr> arooni: find -t f -exec 'grep foo {}\;' ?? something like that, my syntax is probably off.
[12:25] <daurn|laptop> how can i fix a broken ubuntu iso download?
[12:25] <fyrestrtr> daurn|laptop: redownload it.
[12:25] <daurn|laptop> don't have the bandwidth
[12:25] <fyrestrtr> daurn|laptop: order a cd from ship-it
[12:26] <geoffDeGeoffGeof> what would cause a weird flash on my screen when i open firefox or my home folder?
[12:26] <daurn|laptop> takes too long
[12:26] <Flannel> arooni: you'll just have to modify your regexp to exclude .svn directories
[12:26] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: you need samba
[12:26] <fyrestrtr> daurn|laptop: wait
[12:26] <Inferus> fyrestrtr i have samba
[12:26] <daurn|laptop> ah
[12:26] <daurn|laptop> a torrent can fix it
[12:26] <daurn|laptop> yay
[12:26] <arooni> Flannel: im just a little unsure of how to do that
[12:27] <fyrestrtr> you have a partially downloaded .iso image file?
[12:27] <daurn|laptop> yes
[12:27] <fyrestrtr> daurn|laptop: and you can't 'resume' it? Why did you say its 'broken'?
[12:27] <IRCMonkeyX> friends,  i downloaded unrar, but i still cant open the package that is at my desktop which is a rar file made in xp ?
[12:27] <daurn|laptop> i dled with http
[12:27] <romanov> Kmail with gotmail not read my mails from hotmail, any idea to fix it ! I use kde 3.5.4 and kmail is 1.9.5 ...
[12:27] <daurn|laptop> i just got the torrent
[12:28] <daurn|laptop> and it will fix the broken http download
[12:28] <daurn|laptop>  - i hope
[12:28] <IRCMonkeyX> can anyone give a hint ?
[12:28] <fyrestrtr> IRCMonkeyX: install unrar-nonfree
[12:29] <timmy_> Hey, I had to install the ubuntu dapper server version because both text and graphical installs suck, and I cant get X to work, I did a sudo apt-get install gdm and its dependencies were satisfied but X still wont work, I get a bunch of bull when I start my comp and do startx. Help?
[12:29] <timmy_> Im runnin irssi now
[12:29] <riaal> what program to burn a DVD image? (like dvd decrypter for win)
[12:29] <fyrestrtr> timmy_: wow, that has got to be the most PRECISE TECHNICAL description of a problem I have ever read ... </sarcasm>
[12:29] <timmy_> ...
[12:30] <Dromen_> is there anyway to have your kde desktop icons and your gnome desktop icons seperate
[12:30] <fyrestrtr> riaal: right click on the image file, write to disc
[12:30] <Dromen_> as in when i boot kde, i get my gnome icons on my desktop but id rather have a different set?
[12:30] <riaal> fyrestrtr: ???
[12:31] <fyrestrtr> riaal: that's how you write iso image files.
[12:31] <fyrestrtr> riaal: or you can use k3b, but its just easier to right click on the iso file, and choose write to disc
[12:31] <timmy_> so, can nobody help, or should I post my problem at the ubuntu forums?
[12:32] <riaal> fyrestrtr: Don't have the burner in the coumuter, what do I need to install 2 do that? ok I will try to install k3b, thanks
[12:32] <fyrestrtr> timmy_: you haven't really told us anything.
[12:32] <timmy_> Alright, fuck it
[12:32] <fyrestrtr> riaal: you don't have a dvd burner?
[12:32] <Inferus> fyrestrtr am i supposed to bind my server to the windows domain
[12:32] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: you need samba to have your pc part of the ad domain.
[12:33] <riaal> fyrestrtr: not right now, swaping it from my other comp as soon as i know it is possible to brun img's, like now =) thanks
[12:33] <Inferus> it is, as far as i know
[12:33] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: install samba, and then configure it to join the domain. Its a bit of a hassle, but it does work.
[12:33] <Inferus> how do i join it to the domain
[12:33] <Inferus> it is viewable in windows if i go to "my network places" its listed in there
[12:34] <IRCMonkeyX> fyrestrtr: thanx, i did it
[12:34] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: read http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Adding_a_Samba_Server_into_an_existing_AD_Domain
[12:35] <Inferus> k ty
[12:36] <Flannel> arooni: something like this: grep -H [rest of normal grep]  | grep (?!\.svn/)  that.. *should* return all lines of the original grep, without .svn/ in them, of course, I just put that together, it may not ;)  If you wanted to further narrow that down (so you wouldnt un-match lines with .svn/ in the text) you could add some anchors, and some wildcards, to match only before the colon
[12:37] <arooni> ah nifty
[12:37] <arooni> thanks Flannel !
[12:37] <Flannel> arooni: I have no idea if that's the most efficient way, but... in theory that works
[12:37] <Inferus> fyrestrtr this is far too much effort :/
[12:37] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> hello
[12:37] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> what programs i need to program c/c++
[12:37] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> ?
[12:38] <Jowi> !compile
[12:38] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:38] <Flannel> arooni: oh, you'll ahve to add an option to specify that it's a regexp, on the second grep
[12:39] <Orasis1> [36C] m4sterm1nd: Well you simply need a text editor, and a compiler..
[12:39] <Orasis1> You can use anything to code in C/C++, to compile it you will need a compiler like GCC etc
[12:39] <Jowi> [36C] m4sterm1nd: read that link that ubotu spat out. that will give you the basic tools to compile
[12:40] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> i wanne start programming c:) :P
[12:40] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> or do u think i can better try someting els?
[12:40] <Flannel> arooni: er, a perl regexp even, since basic and extended don't include lookaheads.
[12:41] <Orasis1> [36C] m4sterm1nd: How much experience do you have in coding?
[12:41] <Orasis1> If you are just starting, why not try something easier to get your feet wet.. such as Python or TCL/TK.
[12:41] <Orasis1> If you want to *start* coding, you are looking for the wrong thing, you are looking for programs when you should be seeking books and knowledge...
[12:42] <mneptok> or Ruby
[12:42] <ompaul> Madpilot, no :-)
[12:42] <Madpilot> ompaul, fair enough ;)
[12:42] <ompaul> :)
[12:43] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> lol i can php:P
[12:43] <[36C] m4sterm1nd> just wanne try to make simpel programs:)
[12:43] <gnomefreak> airzer came back?
[12:44] <ompaul> no
[12:44] <ompaul> but his ban is staying
[12:44] <Inferus> What is a kerberos server in my realm :s
[12:44] <Inferus> 127.0.0.1
[12:44] <Inferus> ?
[12:44] <gnomefreak> good :)
[12:45] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: I think you need the assistance of someone else with this, if you are asking questions like that ;)
[12:45] <zyclop> my network interface doesn't respond to ping, the echo request packet however reaches its destination. What is wrong?
[12:47] <linux_user400354> i was thinking for a good laugh. i could move the firefox somewhere else and then put a script in its place thats name is firefox so it would run instead of firefox. the script would start firefox and sleep for about 10 seconds, then killall firefox.
[12:47] <Paddy_EIRE> hey i downloaded a rar file 189mb, when i extract it the folder is empty...? I already did sudo apt-get install unrar and it successfully installed any ideas to what the problem might be?
[12:47] <Inferus> ffs] 
[12:47] <Inferus> why is this so friggin difficult to install a proxy with ldap authentication
[12:47] <Inferus> i've been doing it now for 2 and a half hours, its rediculous.
[12:47] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: if your proxy and your ldap are both on linux machines, then its easy. Now, if you are trying to authenticate against AD from a linux machine, then its complicated.
[12:48] <Inferus> Its a microsoft network
[12:48] <Inferus> i just have this linux server, a Xeon 2.8
[12:48] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: does it have a domain controller?
[12:48] <Inferus> yes
[12:48] <Inferus> two
[12:48] <Inferus> 89.0.4.4 and 90.0.4.4
[12:48] <linux_user400354> Paddy_EIRE: maybe the archive is owned by root or you dont have permissions to read and execute it
[12:48] <fyrestrtr> and the users you are trying to authenticate, are they in the active directory?
[12:48] <Inferus> yes
[12:49] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: then you need to first join the server to the AD domain (using samba).
 funny thing is I downloaded this file before and it worked wonderfully now it doesnt
[12:49] <Inferus> i think i already have fyrestrtr
[12:49] <Inferus> how can i check?
[12:49] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: logon to your DC and see if the computer shows up in your AD listing.
[12:50] <zyclop> help, my NIC doesn't respond to ping
[12:50] <linux_user400354> Paddy_EIRE: maybe its corrupt. in that case, you should download it again.
[12:50] <Inferus> well
[12:50] <fyrestrtr> zyclop: does it work otherwise?
[12:50] <Inferus> i created the user months ago fyrestrtr
[12:50] <Inferus> and the computer name
[12:50] <Inferus> should i try deleting it and letting the server force AD to create it/
[12:50] <dafart> hi there
 used bittorrent and it worked continually
[12:50] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: that doesn't mean anything. You can create a computer account on the PDC, but you need to join a PC to the PDC before it becomes part of the AD.
[12:50] <dafart> is there still a bug in ubuntu using openoffice with cups?
[12:51] <zyclop> fyrestrtr: yes, it even gets the echo request packets but doesnt respond
[12:51] <Inferus> well how do i check
[12:51] <Inferus> ?
[12:51] <fyrestrtr> rofl -- that line reminds me of Good Morning Vietname.
[12:51] <JdGordon> has anyone got ati dualhead working without using MergedFB? or alternativly, has anyone got sdl working with MergedFB doing the dualhead?
[12:51] <TLE_02> fyrestrtr: Hey, I figured it out. And I got the patch changed so that it matches the current version of the sourcecode, I applied it and generated the new .deb's and it works like a charm. Very groovy man. I was wondering, would the .deb's I generated could be used on other peoples Ubuntu as weel ?
[12:52] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: if your computer is part of the domain, then it will show up in your active directory, you will be able to browse it from other pcs in the same domain.
[12:52] <Inferus> well
[12:52] <Inferus> i can see it there yes
[12:52] <Inferus> but when i click on it, it asks for a username and password, and i have no idea what they are
[12:52] <fyrestrtr> TLE_02: they should, assuming all the deps are there.
[12:53] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: it shows up where? under 'my workgroup computers'?
[12:53] <Inferus> yea
[12:53] <Inferus> then when i double click on it, its asking for a username and password
[12:54] <TLE_02> fyrestrtr: but if I build it from a official metacity(Ubuntu) package, then doesn't it still contain the info on dependencies, so they can be installed automatically ?
[12:54] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: forget that, go to the PDC, browse the Computers, does your linux machine show up?
[12:55] <Inferus> well, it was listed, but i think it was manually inputted fyrestrtr
[12:55] <fyrestrtr> TLE_02: I believe so, but I am not an expert in that to be honest. Here is what I do know. If the deb is part of the official repos, and you just patched it, it will still work.
[12:55] <Inferus> i'll reboot samba and see if it recreates the computer in AD
[12:55] <TLE_02> fyrestrtr: Ok thanks a lot
[12:55] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: type net ads info on the ubuntu box.
[12:56] <Inferus> i'll /q you the result fyrestrtr
[12:56] <zanpakuto> anyone tried xen (the one in edgy) here? I was wondering if that same kernel should be to used for booting domU s?
[12:56] <Inferus> that ok?
[12:56] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: unless you typed a command -- something like net ads join -U Administrator at the ubuntu machine, its not part of the domain.
[12:56] <Inferus> fyrestrtr? i'll /q you the result, ok?
[12:56] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: it doesn't automatically add itself.
[12:57] <fyrestrtr> pastebin it please, in case someone else also wants to contribute.
[12:57] <Inferus> ok
[12:58] <Inferus> fyrestrtr
[12:58] <Inferus> http://paste.lisp.org/display/24165
[01:00] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: type wbinfo -u at the ubuntu box, do you get a list of users from AD?
[01:00] <Inferus> wbinfo command not found
[01:02] <Inferus> =[
[01:02] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: hrmm, do you have smbldap-tools package installed?
[01:03] <Inferus> dont know
[01:03] <Inferus> i dont have the winbind tools though
[01:04] <Inferus> administrator@itadvantage:/$ wbinfo -u
[01:04] <Inferus> Error looking up domain users
[01:04] <Inferus> fyrestrtr ^
[01:04] <fyrestrtr> hrmm -- there is an issue then.
[01:04] <fyrestrtr> net ads status
[01:05] <Inferus> administrator@itadvantage:/$ sudo net ads status
[01:05] <Inferus> root's password:
[01:05] <Inferus> [2006/08/15 12:04:49, 0]  libads/kerberos.c:ads_kinit_password(164)
[01:05] <Inferus>   kerberos_kinit_password root@FLETCHERSSOLICITORS.CO.UK failed: Improper format of Kerberos configuration file
[01:05] <Inferus> [2006/08/15 12:04:49, 0]  utils/net_ads.c:ads_startup(191)
[01:05] <Inferus>   ads_connect: Improper format of Kerberos configuration file
[01:05] <musasabi> Is there a smaller install CD (only have 650mb blank CDs) ?
[01:06] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: oh geez - I hate kerberos.
[01:06] <Inferus> i only just installed it
[01:06] <Inferus> i have webmin if that helps
[01:06] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: why don't you just read that gentoo wiki entry? It explains it better than my memory of doing this from 3 years back.
[01:06] <Inferus> lol
[01:06] <Inferus> i dont understand it
[01:06] <Inferus> =[
[01:07] <fyrestrtr> what part?
[01:07] <Inferus> all of it
[01:07] <Inferus> theres so much writing, and i dont even need most of it
[01:07] <fyrestrtr> I'd say you need all of it.
[01:07] <fyrestrtr> are you like -- afraid of words?
[01:08] <Inferus> i get bored easily :)
[01:08] <wthww> hey guys-- i finally gots ubuntu worxing on my biostar motherboard-- it was the ram, lol
[01:08] <fyrestrtr> lol then setting this up really isn't for you. Unless this gives you that tingle and excites you, hooking up samba to AD is not really something everyone does. If you have an intern that you want to torture, have him/her do it.
[01:09] <wthww> lol fyrestrtr
[01:09] <Inferus> no one in my company has the foggiest clue about linux
[01:09] <Inferus> my boss installed ubuntu, thinking hes being clever
[01:09] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: I do offer consulting services.........
[01:09] <Inferus> and somehow didnt put sudo on
[01:09] <Inferus> so you had to login as root
[01:09] <Inferus> and then it was root, with null password
[01:09] <Inferus> GREAT IDEA MATE
[01:09] <Inferus> xD
[01:10] <drummer87> hi, i'm trying to change gtk themes to one using the murrine engine (installed from a deb) but it ain't seem to be working..
[01:10] <rambo3> Inferus your leet
[01:11] <fyrestrtr> but seriously, configuring samba to work with AD is something that requires alot of reading what some may call dry material. It does work, but its not without its quirks (just like most things with samba). I did it at my previous workplace having the PDC on Win2003, and one BDC that was Samba, and another Samba file share service (also part of the AD). It took me the longest to configure the first one (almost 3 hours), but the second
[01:11] <fyrestrtr> one was easy.
[01:11] <jujimufu> hye
[01:11] <jujimufu> can I edit my kernel in ubuntu?
[01:11] <jujimufu> there is nothing inside /usr/src/ ...
[01:11] <fyrestrtr> jujimufu: why do you think you need to?
[01:11] <drummer87> all that happens is the icons change, but not any of the wigets
[01:12] <drummer87> any help anyone?
[01:12] <jujimufu> fyrestrtr: I need to enable a couple of modules to have DRI (3d acceleration) with my i810 intel card.
[01:12] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: that gentoo wiki is very detailed (in fact, their wiki is one of the best community docs for linux). Read it, then -- read it again. Second time around, it will make more sense. Also helps if your current network admin (the guy who control the AD) is hanging around you to explain to you some of the terms.
[01:12] <fyrestrtr> jujimufu: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Video
[01:13] <jujimufu> oh, ok thanks :)
[01:13] <KenSentMe> I have a question about the Fridge rss-feed. Why do some posts show up three times in my rss reader Liferea?
[01:13] <fyrestrtr> Inferus: if you get stuck, ask in #samba
[01:13] <fyrestrtr> KenSentMe: bad feed?
[01:13] <wthww> wow... la gmuch-- installing nero linux :P
[01:14] <KenSentMe> fyrestrtr: i see that quite a lot, also with other feeds. Are they all bad feeds?
[01:15] <fyrestrtr> KenSentMe: I'd have to look at the feed, but if they show up in another reader properly, then you know its the reader, not the feed.
[01:16] <compengi> i have users that i give them access to my pc, but the thing is that i locked my home directory but all the other part of the HDD the root one is accessible, i want to lock it in such a way to make them access only there own home directory
[01:16] <compengi> can anyone help
[01:16] <KenSentMe> fyrestrtr: you're right. I'll check that
[01:17] <fyrestrtr> compengi: if you assign them permissions properly, they can only access their home directory. They may be able to see what's in the other directories, but nothing more.
[01:17] <drummer87> anyone?
[01:17] <drummer87> :(
[01:18] <drummer87> i'm getting bored of the human theme...
[01:19] <fyrestrtr> drummer87: I hear compiz has some nice themes :)
[01:20] <Hox> has somebody here made a internet connection via bluetooth -> phone (GPRS) -> internet?
[01:20] <Sakunix> how do you run a start a program at cmdline such that it stays open even when you close the terminal
[01:20] <drummer87> fyrestrtr: yes, i have that now, it's very nice, but the gtk theme is still plain human...
[01:20] <fyrestrtr> Sakunix: send it to the background by putting a & at the end of it. Like $hello &
[01:20] <jrib> Sakunix: nohup program, or just use screen
[01:21] <drummer87> the gtk theme's won't change :(
[01:21] <Sakunix> how do you recall it?
[01:21] <jrib> !screen > Sakunix
[01:21] <Sakunix> I have got this machine up and running finally want to run a half-life dedicated server on it
[01:21] <Sakunix> it has no keyboard and mouse plgued in
[01:22] <Sakunix> or screen
[01:22] <Sakunix> only ssh from thismachine
[01:22] <Sakunix> its annoying server goes down when I close the terminal here
[01:22] <jrib> Sakunix: screen is a program that lets you attach and detach sessions from terminals
[01:22] <Sakunix> awesome
[01:22] <Sakunix> sounds great
[01:22] <Sakunix> apt-get?
[01:23] <Jowi> drummer87: on some gtk themes you need something called an engine as well. make sure you install both the engine and the theme (if the theme need one)
[01:23] <Jowi> drummer87: some engines are at art.gnome.org
[01:24] <jrib> Sakunix: not sure if it is installed by default, but yeah it is in the repositories as 'screen'.  Basic usage for attaching and detaching:  to detach you can just close the terminal or hit ctrl-a d, to reattach just type 'screen -r'
[01:24] <Sakunix> great thanks
[01:24] <Jowi> drummer87: some engines are installable through synaptic as well (search for "engine")
[01:24] <drummer87> Jowi: i have both engine and theme, but the gtk wigets won't change
[01:25] <pluma> Okay, I'm running a fresh installation of Ubuntu 6.06 and everything works fine, except that the Intarwebs are slow as hell. Apparently the bit that slows browsing down so badly is the domain look-up, but running Look Up via the Network Tools works perfectly fine. Even lynx hangs in the Look Up phase for quite a while, though.
[01:25] <Jowi> drummer87: where did you install the theme to?
[01:25] <pluma> The software updates had a download speed of ~125 KB/s so it can't be a general problem.
[01:26] <fyrestrtr> drummer87: wait a second, let me put something together for you.
[01:27] <drummer87> thanks, this is driving me nuts, i can't see what's wrong...
[01:27] <compengi> i give users access to my pc, but they can access my files i locked my own home directory but they still can access files behind home dir, i want to make the users access only there own home dir, can anyone help
[01:27] <linux_user400354> has anyone ever compiled a kernel for ubuntu?
[01:27] <pluma> In fact, the look up is so slow that I get a time-out on Google. ANY Google.
[01:27] <linux_user400354> !kernel
[01:27] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
 are you running any firewalls?
[01:28] <flo> hi, is there a way to convert flash video files to xvid or divx?
[01:28] <jujimufu> pluma: that could interfer with the speed.
[01:28] <jujimufu> flo: camtasia
[01:28] <jujimufu> or flash MX
[01:28] <fyrestrtr> drummer87: http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?images=screenshotgw6.png
[01:29] <fyrestrtr> drummer87: http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotgw6.png (typo in the first one)
[01:29] <pluma> jujimufu: it's only the look-up, nothing else. And only via web browsers and the like (GAIM doesn't seem to be affected). However, I am behind a router and the network should be set up properly (static IP and everything).
[01:29] <pluma> *static local IP, that is
[01:30] <drummer87> one other thing, the gnome panel changes with the theme change, and that's about all
[01:30] <freezey> i have a backup system running on windows... just a regular ROBOCOPY... when i direct it toward my slackware shared folder it cant find the file specified but when i direct it towards my ubuntu box on its shared folder it can find the folder and backs up with no errors... any reasons why?
[01:30] <drummer87> fyrestrtr: that pic isn't loading
[01:30] <fyrestrtr> drummer87: second link
[01:30] <fyrestrtr> drummer87: http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotgw6.png
[01:31] <jujimufu> pluma: so, you're saying only when you are trying to find pages from your browser, it is slow? Try pinging the pages that are slow to see if it's the browser or the connection.
[01:31] <jujimufu> brb
[01:31] <jujimufu> I have to restart X
[01:32] <zool2005> my computer does not automatically check for updates even though I have selected this option. (or if it does it doesn't tell me)
[01:32] <fyrestrtr> pluma: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[01:32] <pluma> Ping works fine. Look-up works fine. Whois works fine. Traceroute works fine. Everything works fine. Except for browsers taking ages to "look up" domains.
[01:32] <marioubuntu> hello
[01:33] <_jumbo> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153384&page=4 <-- can any body tell me if this bottom post will work, or do i need to update the kernals to work with JMicron?
[01:33] <jujimufu> back
[01:33] <pluma> jujimufu: Ping works fine. Look-up works fine. Whois works fine. Traceroute works fine. Everything works fine. Except for browsers taking ages to "look up" domains.
[01:34] <fyrestrtr> pluma: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[01:34] <pluma> fyrestrtr: am reading
[01:34] <drummer87> a-ha.. looks nice, but the problem is i can't get other themes to work for me like that.
[01:35] <zool2005> gdmflexiserver is not working correctly on my machine....Where would I find error report?
[01:35] <pluma> fyrestrtr: I just bought the motherboard and the Ethernet is OnBoard. It *should* support IPv6, just as the router *should* support it.
[01:35] <Mangey> hello all
[01:35] <Ahmed> hello
[01:35] <Miek> hi
[01:35] <pluma> It's a 64bit MoBo after all.
[01:36] <Mangey> Can anyone tell me what and where to get patch for breezy to automount usb flash?
[01:36] <dools> hi, i have the ubuntu live cd and i'm putting it into an ibook. it runs apparently correctly, but gets to a blinking underscore and stays there forever
[01:36] <fyrestrtr> pluma: it has nothing to do with your router or your network card, in fact, the protocol doesn't work on that layer. The problem is, most DNS servers do not support ipv6, so when you try to query a domain in firefox, it will query using ipv6, then time out, then query using ipv4. That's why it takes time to "look up" domains.
[01:36] <fyrestrtr> pluma: if you disable ipv6, this lag will go away.
[01:37] <Gnutz> Anybody know how to get the installer CD to boot on a G3 iBook (O.F. 3)?
[01:37] <pluma> fyrestrtr: Ah. The wiki made it sound like the hardware being outdated being the problem.
[01:38] <dools> Gnutz: jinx :)
[01:38] <pluma> fyrestrtr: So, basically, the DNS I'm trying to query doesn't support the protocol and that's why it times out?
[01:38] <zool2005> Mangey, Breezy should mount it automatically anyway
[01:38] <dools> Gnutz: what stage are you getting to? i'm trying the same thing now, it runs, but then hangs at a blank black cursor
[01:38] <andres> since when does hardware has anything to do with the layers relevant for ipv6?
[01:38] <J_P> hi all
[01:38] <Mangey> no such luck
[01:38] <agliv5> Greetings :)  I'm having problems installing and configuring samba... can anyone help?
[01:39] <damned[office] > hi all. anybody got strange problem when evolution freezes when "reply" button is pressed?
[01:39] <zool2005> Mangey, is it a standard USB thumbdrive you are trying to use?
[01:39] <Baltazar^2> agliv5: explain :)
[01:39] <ajt> What with?
[01:39] <Mangey> it doesn't have /dev/sda<n> devices so I was wondering if the kernel needs to be rebuilt
[01:39] <Gnutz> dools: I can't even bypass the hard drive.
[01:39] <_jumbo> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153384&page=4 <-- can any body tell me if this bottom post will work, or do i need to update the kernals to work with JMicron?
[01:39] <Mangey> since I think the usb flash uses the scsi drivers
[01:39] <dools> Gnutz: bypass the hard drive? which iso did you download?
[01:40] <Mangey> zool: yep and it mounts fine on my FC3 machine
[01:40] <fyrestrtr> pluma: technically, your the server is only listening on ipv4, not ipv6 addresess, but your analogy is correct.
[01:40] <zool2005> Mangey, I presume you have a fully updated version?
[01:40] <Baltazar^2> agliv5: did you install samba through apt-get install samba ?
[01:40] <Ahmed> hello
[01:40] <Baltazar^2> Ahmed: hi
[01:40] <Gnutz> 6.0.6 powerpc desktop
[01:40] <Mangey> well I downloaded all the latest patches last night in the hope of fixing the problem without searching
[01:40] <dools> Gnutz: and what are you typing in to boot?
[01:40] <passenger> i'm tring to install wine on my ubuntu dapper amd64. wine complains about that he doesn't find freetype libs but i already have them in /usr/lib32 ? What could be wrong ?
[01:41] <compengi> i give users access to my pc, but they can access my files i locked my own home directory but they still can access files behind home dir, i want to make the users access only there own home dir, can anyone help
[01:41] <Mangey> zool: I even have to manually mount the floppy drive on a mount point
[01:41] <Gnutz> I was holding the "C" key, but that didn't work, so I tried "boot cd:0" in Open Firmware.  Still didn't work.
[01:41] <pluma> fyrestrtr: Aye. Thanks for the troubleshooting. I'll reboot and see if that did it. ;)
[01:41] <dools> Gnutz: so you mean it won't actually boot from the cd?
[01:41] <Gnutz> dools: Exactly
[01:41] <agliv5> Baltazar^2: I was using the guide at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Samba_Server and the install returned some errors, hang on I'll try and find out what it said...
[01:41] <Mangey> zool: /dev/fd0 does not automount
[01:42] <dools> Gnutz: hmm mine 'just works'
[01:42] <Mangey> zool: I recall someone telling me about a patch for this problem
[01:42] <dools> Gnutz: well... up to a point
[01:42] <zool2005> Mangey, I just stuck my USB drive in the port and SDA appeared in DEV, it wasn't there before
[01:42] <zool2005> Mangey, Is your fstab file correct?
[01:42] <Gnutz> OS 9 keeps giving me an error about the disk not being formatted correctly, so I can't change the boot disk from the OS.
[01:42] <dools> Gnutz: but i've deleted macos off it already because i tried to get netbsd running on it first
[01:42] <Mangey> zool: yep it is
[01:43] <Baltazar^2> agliv5: If you follow these steps from ubuntuguide it's shoud worked
[01:43] <agliv5> Baltazar^2: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:43] <Mangey> zool: so before putting ur thumb drive in u didn't have a /dev/sda1 file??
[01:43] <zool2005> Mangey, no
[01:43] <Gnutz> Hmmm...maybe I should try NetBSD.
[01:44] <fiveiron> rofl
[01:44] <zool2005> Mangey, I checked first then stuck it in, refreshed the page and I got SDA & SDA1!
[01:44] <Baltazar^2> agliv5: Try dpkg-reconfigure samba or something like that
[01:44] <fiveiron> yeah, bsd is a lot easier than linux... :-P
[01:44] <Mangey> zool: I am wondering if my kernel has support for scsi but that doesn't explain the non-automount of floppy
[01:44] <dools> Gnutz: just make sure you put ofwboot.xcf on an Apple_HFS partition prior to install
[01:44] <_jumbo> does the latest kernal build suport jmicron?
[01:44] <fiveiron> trust me, i'm running BSD machines and Ubuntu machines.... for ease of setup, Linux is better....
[01:44] <Mangey> zool: how about from command window?
[01:45] <fiveiron> BSD is a VERY nice OS tho
[01:45] <Baltazar^2> agliv5: try this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=171107
[01:45] <Gnutz> Dunno.  Apple.com says there's a firmware update required to install OS X.  Maybe I need that for Linux, too.
[01:45] <dools> Gnutz: the install doc for macppc is H000ge, but if you follow it, it should work. the mistake i made is that i didn't put the boot partition on the drive before i installed, and can't do it with pdisk afterwards
[01:45] <Gnutz> Can't tell, because I'm using 9.0 and the patch is for 9.1
[01:45] <dools> Gnutz: well if you're patient and good at reading then give netbsd a go
[01:46] <Gnutz> I'd rather use Linux.  NetBSD is a pain in the ass.
[01:46] <dang`r`us> hello there. Does the stock ubuntu kernel have traffic shaping capabilities? (htb)
[01:46] <dools> fiveiron: yeah, i was blown away when i put my ubuntu cd and it just started booting, but now it's not working and there's nothing i can do
[01:47] <zool2005> Mangey, unfortunately I have to go, my daughter needs changing! Sorry can't help more.
[01:48] <Mangey> zool: no probs tq
[01:48] <fyrestrtr> dang`r`us: do you know a way to check for that? I can check for you.
[01:48] <fiveiron> dools, what do you mean its "not working"
[01:48] <Mangey> Hello all does anyone else know of a patch to get USB flash to automount in breezy??
[01:48] <agliv5> Baltazar^2: Than
[01:49] <CBMz> Hello, how do i restart alsasound?
[01:49] <fyrestrtr> Mangey: the patch is dapper :)
[01:49] <dang`r`us> fyrestrtr, I unfortunately don't ... sitting in front of a ubuntu box myself, it's been years since I last touched htb
[01:49] <dang`r`us> but it looks like it's there.
[01:49] <fyrestrtr> dang`r`us: I seem to recall when setting up shorewall that it detected it, but this was also a while back.
[01:49] <agliv5> Baltazar^2: That's apparently not working, got the error that it's not correctly installed, am going to try to de-and then reinstall
[01:50] <dools> fiveiron: it get to the yaboot prompt. i've tried live, live video=ofonly, live-powerpc and live-powerpc video=ofonly and all of them appear to run correctly through the boot and configuration process, but then i just get a blinking cursor on a blank black screen
[01:52] <SmartUnix> Hello
[01:52] <SmartUnix> I have problem after upgrade to 6.06
[01:52] <fiveiron> dools, are you trying to run the livecd installation?
[01:53] <monteiro> my sound in ubuntu is very low, is any non-opensource driver for the  Intel Corporation 82801G ?
[01:53] <Warbo> Does anyone know of a Theora DVD ripper, like thoggen, which supports subtitles? I know MPlayer/Mencoder does, but I don't think it can output Theora
[01:53] <SmartUnix> the Screem editor can't save Arabic files , it's stop and show for me "Close" "Inform Developer"
[01:53] <Mangey> fyrestrtr: so you are aware of the problem and know that this is the fix?
[01:54] <dools> fiveiron: well, no i want to install it
[01:54] <_jumbo> why when i mute the sound (using keyboard shortcut, or change it up top right) does sound continue to play?
[01:54] <fyrestrtr> Mangey: what problem?
[01:54] <compengi> is there any way i can know how much does a program takes processes?
[01:54] <agliv5> Baltazar^2:  E:samba: Unterprocess pre-removal script error 102?
[01:54] <Warbo> compengi: System>Admin>System Monitor?
[01:55] <fiveiron> dools, i gotta run, but here is my advice:  download 5.10 and install it (it uses a non-graphical installation), then just upgrade to 6.06 from within ubuntu... trust me... its a lot easier
[01:55] <fyrestrtr> _jumbo: yes.
[01:55] <Mangey> fyrestrtr, thumb drives and floppy's not automounting
[01:55] <compengi> Warbo i don't mean this
[01:55] <dools> fiveiron: where can i get that file?
[01:55] <agliv5> Baltazar^2: It's apparently not letting me deinstall...
[01:55] <fyrestrtr> Mangey: I don't know of the problem in Breezy, I have only used Dapper on the desktop (Breezy on the server)
[01:56] <CBMz> Hello
[01:56] <CBMz> How do i configure my sound card?
[01:56] <_jumbo> [12:55:03]  <fyrestrtr> _jumbo: yes. <-- ?
[01:56] <fyrestrtr> yes it continues to play. If you mute, it doesn't stop the music.
[01:56] <Mangey> fyrestrtr: I installed Version 5.10 from the live CD
[01:57] <dools> where can i download 5.10 from?
[01:57] <dools> the ubuntu site only has 6.06
[01:57] <Warbo> !sound > CBMz
[01:57] <compengi> Warbo you know that you can limit number of processes per user, i want to know how much processes does logging to pc takes and how much a specific program takes processes so i can limit it
[01:58] <_jumbo> fyrestrtr:  i mean i can still here it playing, as in althought it shows to be muted, its not actually muted
[01:58] <_jumbo> (my bad :P)
[01:58] <_jumbo> also *hear
[01:58] <Warbo> compengi: Well you could look at "ps ax" to see all of the running processes as soon as you log in, then see what happens when you start each program you want to use. I have never looked into such a thing though
[01:59] <Sikon> can someone help me with installing Ubuntu on an Asus laptop?
[01:59] <Sikon> I can't figure out how to boot from the CDE
[01:59] <dools> all i can find is the bloody list of release parties, i want the iso
[01:59] <Sikon> CD
[01:59] <Mangey> compengi: typically one process per application but a process can use a lot of CPU if it has a problem
[02:00] <compengi> Mangey have you ever used psybnc?
[02:00] <Mangey> no
[02:00] <Mangey> hang on let me check it out
[02:00] <CBMz> How do i configure my sound card to use ALSA?
[02:01] <fyrestrtr> !sound
[02:01] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:01] <Mangey> a game??
[02:01] <_jumbo> can amarok play mp3s ?
[02:02] <CBMz> i have no option called multimedia system selector.
[02:02] <GNAM> yes jumbo
[02:02] <compengi> Mangey are you talking to me?
[02:02] <GNAM> with some stuff
[02:02] <Mangey> compengi: yep sorry
[02:02] <_jumbo> i can play mp3s in 'movie player' but it skips to thenext track in amarok?
[02:02] <_jumbo> whats wrong?
[02:03] <Mangey> if you want to run some commands from bash you can see all the process info
[02:03] <compengi> Mangey psybnc is a program which you upload it to a shell
[02:03] <compengi> and use it in irc
[02:03] <Mangey> compengi: to do what?
[02:03] <compengi> Mangey to make you nick be always up
[02:03] <_jumbo> xmms and rhytm box can play mp3's but amarok doesnt seem able to?
[02:03] <Mangey> compengi: do you mean NIC?
[02:03] <_jumbo> any body help me out to what ive done / what needs to be done to fix it?
[02:03] <CBMz> fyrestrtr: i have no option called Multimedia System Selector
[02:04] <compengi> no
[02:04] <compengi> mirc
[02:04] <Mangey> compengi: compengi: oh I see
[02:04] <compengi> Mangey psyBNC. This program is useful for people who cannot be on irc all the time. Its used to keep a connection to irc and your irc client.
[02:05] <cyphase> who's gonna be at linuxworld this morning?
[02:05] <Mangey> compengi: I see. So you want to see how many processes it uses or how much cpu the process is using?
[02:05] <compengi> yes
[02:05] <compengi> :)
[02:05] <Mangey> compengi: which one?
[02:05] <compengi> processes
[02:06] <Mangey> compengi: I assume you are familiar with shell commands and have root access?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> cyphase: please keep offtopic chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:06] <compengi> my pc is the root
[02:06] <cyphase> blah
[02:06] <cyphase> :)
[02:07] <zoidberg> hey guys i have a question
[02:07] <Mangey> compengi: so you are running ubuntu and have logged in as the root user?
[02:07] <compengi> yes
[02:07] <Mangey> compengi:  ru familiar with shell commands?
[02:07] <agliv5> Baltazar^2: I'm not sure what I did, but it seems to be working now... ;)
[02:07] <compengi> not much
[02:08] <zanpakuto> anyone installed the xen kernel package from edgy?
[02:08] <dmsantam> zanpakuto, nope. what is it?
[02:08] <zoidberg> i have an old G3 powerbook 64 mb ram....330 mhz...dvd...anyways i put linux on it but i think i messed something up when trying to install an alternate XUBUNTU version...anyways can i boot a ubuntu iso from a flashdrive on this powerbook?
[02:08] <zanpakuto> dmsantam, xen is similar to vmware.
[02:08] <geoffDeGeoffGeof> why would there be a strange flash when i click on firefox icon or home folder?
[02:08] <Mangey> compengi: well if ur game open a command window and run the command "top" this will show the top process automatically ordered according to most cpu usage
[02:08] <zanpakuto> dmsantam, you can create lots of ubuntu virtual machines in one box :)
[02:09] <dmsantam> zanpakuto, wow. i might check that out :)
[02:09] <Mangey> compengi: of course this is not specific
[02:09] <Sikon> and this is probably not the best place to ask this, but can I delete the RECOVERY partition on my ASUS laptop?
[02:09] <Mangey> compengi: if you run "ps -ef|grep <your process name or part there of> it will list processes
[02:09] <Mangey> compengi: if you get the PID number you can run the command again but grep on the PID
[02:09] <compengi> Mangey i know where to limit number of processes per user, but don't know how much each program needs
[02:10] <zoidberg> guys...can you boot a G3 Powerbook from an ubuntu iso image on a FLASHDRIVE????
[02:10] <Mangey> compengi: this will list all process associations
[02:10] <fyrestrtr> zoidberg: no
[02:10] <CBMz> My totem outputs a message about not being able to connect to sound server. what should i do?
[02:10] <Mangey> compengi: you don't appear to understand how processes work in Linux (no insult intended)
[02:10] <GoSu> I want to install Wine for Amd64 but i get this error when i attempt to download the Wine package, http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[02:10] <Dodzey> Sikon: if you ever want to get your laptop back to factory default using the recovery cd, then No
[02:11] <zoidberg> fyrestrtr, are you sure?
[02:11] <fyrestrtr> zoidberg: 120% :)
[02:11] <Sikon> what if I DON'T want it back to factory default?
[02:11] <Sikon> I don't even want Windows, as a matter of fact
[02:12] <Dodzey> Sikon: is it in warranty?
[02:12] <compengi> Mangey your right =/
[02:12] <Sikon> apparently no longer
[02:12] <Mangey> compengi: Only the programmer knows how many processes a programme will use.
[02:12] <Dodzey> sikon: check your warranty, see how they would react if you didnt have windows installed
[02:12] <jdahm> good morning
[02:12] <Dodzey> sikon: ok, well aslong as your sure, then you can delete it, but i personally wouldnt unless i could get XP installer from somewhere else
[02:13] <Sikon> well, I can
[02:13] <Mangey> compengi: He may choose to multithread a single process or have multiple process using IPC (Inter-Process COmmunication)
[02:13] <Dodzey> skion: if your ring your laptops manufacturer you could ask them for the full lot of CD's that includes data on the restore partition
[02:13] <compengi> Mangey do you know any programer that can help?
[02:13] <Dodzey> sikon: then you'll always have it just in case
[02:13] <jdahm> I have a problem with my liveCD, I booted from it once and it worked pefectly (beautifully) but I ran out of batteries and had to reboot afer plugging it in, and now when I choose install/run ubuntu from the LiveCD menu, it hangs
[02:14] <jdahm> anyone know how I can get it to boot again?
[02:14] <Dodzey> hmm
[02:14] <Dodzey> strange problem there
[02:14] <Mangey> compengi: how about you contact the psyBNC support?
[02:14] <Mangey> compengi: What is ur problem exactly?
[02:15] <Dodzey> jdahm, this might be a long shot but have you tried booting it without your laptop plugged into mains?
[02:15] <CBMz> Hello, i have no sound.
[02:15] <CBMz> typing esd in the terminal gives:
[02:15] <CBMz> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:819:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[02:15] <Dodzey> jdahm, that seems to be the only thing you have changed since it worked
[02:15] <bilss_> hi
[02:16] <compengi> Mangey i'm trying to adjust my shell accounts in a proffessional way
[02:16] <jdahm> Dodzey, hmm potentially good idea :P, lemme try it
[02:16] <Sikon> #ubuntu is the most populated Linux-related channel I've ever seen on Freenode
[02:16] <stelki> mmmmmm ubuntu stickers :)!
[02:16] <Sikon> #debian used to be more populated, but not anymore
[02:16] <bilss_> wants the command line to give rrot privlages to uer admin?
[02:16] <jdahm> Dodzey, also, do you know why there is a ' -- ' after the kernel parameters?
[02:16] <bilss_> root
[02:17] <Sikon> can I order an Ubuntu DVD somewhere? the site only has CD versions, the DVDs are only available for download
[02:17] <jdahm> Dodzey, still doesnt work
[02:17] <Mangey> compengi: so the accounts are defined in /etc/passwd. i.e. they are users on ur server?
[02:17] <Dodzey> jdahm: so what were you doing when your computer powered down?
[02:17] <stelki> Sikon, what would be special about a dvd version anyway?`its all on the cd version, no?
[02:17] <compengi> Mangey and give everyone limited number of processes as they had requested
[02:17] <Nilvio> how i do if i want burn dvd Cd ?
[02:17] <Sikon> it has more packages
[02:18] <jdahm> Dodzey, it just said critical battery! and then powered down for me Ubuntu halted the computer for me
[02:18] <Sikon> including development packages
[02:18] <Nilvio> i have VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS
[02:18] <compengi> Mangey i'm still adjusting things up
[02:18] <Dodzey> jdahm: were you installing it at the time? or just using the live cd?
[02:18] <Nilvio> and in VIDEO_TS is vob files how i can burn it dvd ?
[02:18] <Mangey> compengi: so are you worried about your users deliberately starting too many process instances?
[02:18] <jdahm> Dodzey just using the LiveCD
[02:18] <Juftus> CBMz: Used to have sound before?
[02:18] <CBMz> Juftus: yes.
[02:18] <Dodzey> jdahm: that is really odd, try the silly little things like taking the cd out and putting it back in etc
[02:19] <compengi> Mangey yes because every process costs differently
[02:19] <CBMz> Juftus: i had sound until i installed wine
[02:19] <Juftus> CMBz, did you use any sound application prior to losing sound?
[02:19] <PerlRonin> Hey, does anybody have a pointer how to install dapper from a usb stick?
[02:19] <jdahm> Dodzey, alright, booting from the first HD
[02:19] <Mangey> compengi: no. processes are given equal time by the scheduler.
[02:19] <CBMz> Juftus: i used to listen to music yesterday, in totem
[02:20] <compengi> Mangey i didn't get it
[02:20] <Mangey> compengi: I think you may be worrying about things that you don't have to worry about
[02:20] <CBMz> Juftus: Totem gives an error says "Could not connect to sound server" now.
[02:20] <Dodzey> jdahm: theres no logical reason why a power down when using the live CD would stop it from booting next time
[02:20] <Mangey> compengi: How many usrs are you talking about?
[02:20] <jdahm> Dodzey, hmm I think I found the problem, let me try to explain
[02:21] <compengi> Mangey as much as you want, depends on incoming users
[02:21] <Sikon> it's really annoying when I ask for something and the first reply is "why would you want it?"
[02:21] <jdahm> Dodzey, now when I boot it gets to Loading Linux Kernel 15% and then hangs, so maybe my mem is full (and I know my HD is FULL
[02:21] <jdahm> Dodzey, is there a way to clear the mem?
[02:21] <Dodzey> jdahm: when you reboot your memory is cleared
[02:22] <Juftus> CBMz, I heard some apps cause errors. For example Skype has to be quit before some other apps can use sound. Dunno if there's any wine-related problems like that. Or totem.
[02:22] <jdahm> Dodzey, well it definitely hangs at 18 percent, which is a little further than last time
[02:22] <Dodzey> jdahm: and your hard drive being full will not matter UNTIL you decide that you wish to install it
[02:22] <jdahm> Dodzey, I was going to fdisk it anyways
[02:23] <Dodzey> jdahm: try powering down your computer, unplugging from mains, so its completely off, then switch it back on
[02:23] <Mangey> compengi: Sorry I think I'm talking about Linux system admin and your are talking about users connecting to a service on ur machine. Two different things. I still think you have nothing to worry about and I have to go. Good Luck!
[02:23] <timmow> hi has anyone compiled there own version of grep with the -P flag?
[02:24] <jdahm> Dodzey, there! finally booted the kernel
[02:24] <jdahm> Dodzey, I took it out and blew on the disk
[02:24] <jdahm> Dodzey, but darn! its almost time for class
[02:24] <Dodzey> jdahm: told you it'd be one of the little things
[02:25] <mike-e> !easysource
[02:25] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:26] <jdahm> Dodzey, I have another small question, what is hw_random
[02:26] <square|> hey guys, just installed ubuntu from the livecd, to the slave (hdb) drive which is ide, and windows is on the sata drive
[02:26] <square|> but it doesnt seem to have installed a bootloader of any kind so i just go straight to windows
[02:26] <bilss_>  what is the command line to give root privlages to uer admin
[02:26] <Poromenos> bilss_: sudo
[02:26] <Poromenos> how do i check if i have the nvidia driver installed?
[02:27] <Dodzey> jdahm: as far as i know hw_random is not needed, it is only available on some chipsets
[02:27] <Doodluv> sudo lsmod |grep nvidia is one way
[02:28] <Poromenos> Doodluv: that shows nothing, but i did install the package
[02:28] <Doodluv> try sudo modprove nvidia
[02:28] <Doodluv> *modprobe
[02:28] <linux_user400354> just installed ubuntu and the internet wont connect help!!
[02:28] <Poromenos> Doodluv: not found :(
[02:28] <Nordelta> podes pegarte una vuelta por www.misecretito.com.ar y ver las cosas que nos cuentan todos los das, esta muy divertido !
[02:29] <Thunderpants> !es Nordelta
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es Nordelta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <Doodluv> Poromenos: you are sure that the install finished successfully?
[02:29] <Shart> hi! where i can get info about d-link DWL-G520+ (WiFi) on Ubuntu?
[02:29] <Thunderpants> !es > Nordelta
[02:29] <KenSentMe> !es > Nordelta
[02:29] <Poromenos> Doodluv: yes, i used it too. then i changed the screen resolution and X couldn't boot, and the nvidia module doesn't exist now
[02:29] <Juftus> linux_user400354: What kind of connection do you have?
[02:29] <fyrestrtr> !wifi > Shart
[02:29] <Poromenos> now i'm using nv and it works, but nvidia is gone
[02:30] <Shart> what? 8|
[02:30] <linux_user400354> i have a VDSL connection and the internet is not working in ubuntu. help please.
[02:30] <Doodluv> Poromenos: Im sorry wish i could help you further but i have to run
[02:30] <Poromenos> Doodluv: it's ok, thanks for your help :)
[02:30] <Doodluv> Poromenos: np, good luck
[02:30] <bilss_> Poromenos:thanks alredytried that and got  sudo postfix stop admin is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[02:30] <Juftus> I think there's a network manager in system -> administration. Did you check that?
[02:31] <square|> anyone?
[02:31] <Poromenos> Doodluv: thanks :)
[02:31] <Poromenos> bilss_: I don't know what to tell you, then :(
[02:32] <Poromenos> it's odd
[02:32] <bilss_> o dear ok thanks
[02:32] <jdahm> hmm my wireless isnt working either
[02:32] <KenSentMe> square|: maybe you should adjust the boot settings in your bios to boot from the second hd, instead of the first
[02:32] <Juftus> linux_user400354: ... or if you don't find anything there, just do sudo pppoeconf on command line and answer the questions it asks. That could do it, as well.
[02:32] <square|> KenSentMe, yeah but the most useful thing would be for ubuntu to install some sort of bootloader
[02:32] <square|> like grub or lilo
[02:33] <KenSentMe> square|: the bootloader may well be installed, but if your system doesn't look on the hd it's installed, the bootloader  wont be loaded
[02:33] <Shart> fyrestrtr: thanks, i didn't noticed at first time :)
[02:33] <KenSentMe> square|: ubuntu installes grub by default
[02:33] <square|> KenSentMe, yeh ok.. but it should give you the option to install it on the mbr  rather than the root parition
[02:33] <square|> or that drive
[02:33] <square|> of*
[02:34] <Juftus> linux_user400354: Let me know if it helped.
[02:34] <virus> How I Install a program in Ubuntu???for example I downloaded winrar for Linux...How I install it???...I`m loking for the .exe file or setup...:)))
[02:34] <KenSentMe> square|: i don't know for sure, but the alternate install cd may have that feature. The standard installation doesn't have any advanced options
[02:35] <square|> KenSentMe, i guess.. thanks
[02:35] <Poromenos> virus: try the synaptic package manager
[02:35] <Sikon> virus> is it a tar.gz archive or a deb file?
[02:35] <virus> is a tar.gz file
[02:35] <Sikon> it's probably a source archive, you have to build it
[02:35] <KenSentMe> virus: read this first about installing aps https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/add-applications.html
[02:35] <Sikon> but where did you find "winrar for Linux" to begin with?
[02:36] <virus> on winrar site
[02:36] <Sikon> hmm
[02:36] <KenSentMe> !rar
[02:36] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[02:36] <KenSentMe> virus: check this too ^^^^
[02:36] <msoul> Hello, I just installed ubuntu and for somereason I can't use the arrow keys not the alt+tab to switch
[02:36] <msoul> any idea?
[02:36] <Sikon> you shouldn't need it, Ubuntu's default archiver should have support for RARs when you install the console unrar
[02:36] <msoul> s/not/nor
[02:37] <Sikon> msoul> in GNOME or KDE?
[02:37] <msoul> gnome
[02:37] <virus> but can i use it with synaptics???
[02:37] <Sikon> did you check the keyboard settings?
[02:37] <KenSentMe> virus: read the links i gave you
[02:37] <Sikon> virus> try "apt-get install unrar"
[02:37] <msoul> I couldn't find anything that related to the arrow keys nor alt+tab
[02:38] <virus> yes I will read it...thx
[02:39] <msoul> Sikon: any idea?
[02:40] <Sikon> well, you can try gconf-editor, but it's too advanced for an inexperienced user, sort of like the Windows registry editor
[02:41] <agliv5> Greetings :)  I've (hopefully) installed samba correctly and ran testparm without any noticable errors; however rcsmb start isn't working...  Any ideas?
[02:41] <msoul> mmm
[02:43] <Sikon> msoul> try Ctrl-F1
[02:43] <Sikon> does it do anything?
[02:43] <msoul> Sikon: no
[02:43] <KenSentMe> agliv5: try sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[02:44] <Sikon> try gnome menu -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[02:44] <Sikon> or have you already been there?
[02:45] <Sikon> in Dapper, it's in the Control Center
[02:45] <msoul> Sikon: yeah but honestly didn't know exactly what to do
[02:45] <msoul> err
[02:45] <mrbayHU> hello
[02:46] <mrbayHU> how can i get to recovery mode in the server version?
[02:46] <agliv5> KenSentMe:  * Starting Samba daemons...                                             [ ok ] 
[02:46] <agliv5>  Was that it?
[02:46] <yeager> mrbayHU: type recover at the lilo prompt
[02:46] <mrbayHU> k
[02:46] <yeager> when booting on the installation media
[02:46] <KenSentMe> agliv5: with this you start samba, if that's what you want, then that's it
[02:47] <thegve> Hello. Does anyone know how I can execute as the root window in Nautilus. So you'll get an "active desktop" idea?
[02:47] <agliv5> KenSentMe: What I ment is that I don't "see" that samba is running?
[02:47] <Sikon> msoul> can you post a screenshot of the shortcut configuration window?
[02:48] <KenSentMe> agliv5: what do you mean by that. It's not a program that has an interface. It runs when the daemons are started
[02:49] <kikko> Hi
[02:49] <msoul> Sikon: I wish I could do that either
[02:49] <kikko> I recently noticed
[02:49] <kikko> that there is no mention of "nameserver"
[02:49] <jacaru> Please can anyone help me with this problem? I posted about it in ubuntu forums: 'Logitech Bluetooth MX900 + evdev'
[02:49] <jacaru> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=236760
[02:49] <kikko> in the interfaces manpage anymore
[02:49] <KenSentMe> !enter
[02:49] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[02:49] <Sikon> msoul> so the PrintScreen button doesn't work either?
[02:50] <agliv5> KenSentMe: That answers my question; however after starting samba and trying to call smbclient, it says command not found...
[02:50] <kikko> am I supposed to edit resolv.conf directly if all interfaces are configured with static adresses?
[02:50] <KenSentMe> agliv5: with samba you installed the server, not the client. try sudo apt-get install smbclient
[02:50] <msoul> Sikon: you want me to take a screenshot 'keyboard shortcuts'?
[02:51] <Sikon> yes
[02:51] <Sikon> gnome-settings-daemon
[02:51] <Sikon> oops
[02:51] <agliv5> KenSentMe: Ah, that sounds famaliar... ;)
[02:51] <Orasis1> How much more system resources will I lose using GNOME instead of XFCE or FluxBOx?
[02:52] <n1ck0> re les gars :p
[02:52] <n1ck0> biiijourrr!!!
[02:52] <Sikon> Orasis1> use KDE :p
[02:52] <n1ck0> Orasis1, essaye icewm
[02:52] <agliv5> KenSentMe: Seems to be working now, thanks :)
[02:52] <n1ck0> jai matter a et je trouve icewm impecc
[02:52] <KenSentMe> agliv5: no problem
[02:53] <Orasis1> n1ck0: No, I already have.. I prefer XFCE..
[02:53] <n1ck0> http://www.visionfutur.com/linux-article-icewm.htm chouette article
[02:53] <chemikal> I like Gnome better than KDE
[02:53] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell n1ck0 about fr
[02:53] <BlueEagle> ...or was it spanish?
[02:53] <Orasis1> Sikon: ? KDE lol, I am trying to save system resources, not kill them :P
[02:53] <KenSentMe> !fr > n1ck0
[02:53] <KenSentMe> BlueEagle: french
[02:54] <Sikon> Orasis1> you can try Xubuntu
[02:54] <n1ck0> Orasis1, yep xubuntu=xfce
[02:54] <Sikon> it's Ubuntu with Xfce
[02:55] <compengi> i give users access to my pc, but they can access my files i locked my own home directory but they still can access files behind home dir, i want to make the users access only there own home dir, can anyone help
[02:55] <tuxtux> ciao
[02:55] <jacaru> is there anyway to upgrade dapper to xorg 7.1?
[02:55] <BlueEagle> orasis1: Well the system resources you "save" will (in most cases) go to extra disk cache. That is unless you've got a pittyful amount of RAM.
[02:55] <Orasis1> I know, that is what I have right now XUbuntu - I am considering running a "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop", which would install Gnome, since it is a metapackage of 774 megs, and cannot be uninstalled - I want to know, how much more CPU power on average does GNOME steal?
[02:55] <KenSentMe> compengi: how do you 'give them access' and how have you locked your home?
[02:56] <patpond> hey guys,
[02:56] <Orasis1> BlueEagle: I have 256mb of ram.. not a great ammount, but runs XFCE perfectly
[02:56] <patpond> anybody got a second to PM me?
[02:56] <compengi> KenSentMe i locked my home folder
[02:56] <Paddy_EIRE> how do i set the default music player
[02:56] <KenSentMe> compengi: how?
[02:56] <BlueEagle> orasis1: Gnome uses more ram than xfce but the processing power required isn't all that much freater afaik.
[02:56] <Orasis1> Last time I remember Gnome it was pretty harsh on the resources, but not as bad as KDE, KDE is a resource hog./
[02:56] <compengi> KenSentMe not the whole folder
[02:56] <BlueEagle> greater*
[02:56] <compengi> KenSentMe let me search for the command
[02:56] <KenSentMe> compengi: did you create user accounts for the other users?
[02:56] <compengi> KenSentMe yes
[02:57] <prower> Orasis1: Yes, KDE is pretty heavy...on the other hand it also does quite a lot, so I guess there's a tradeoff :>
[02:57] <compengi> KenSentMe but still running as beta
[02:57] <BlueEagle> orasis1: You will notice a greater laod time and 256 ram is a bit short for running gnome imo. Well unless you intend only to run gnome an no applications on top then it's ok. :p
[02:57] <compengi> KenSentMe testing and trying
[02:57] <Orasis1> prower: Yeah, but I enjoy building my own system up :) KDE robs all that fun away from me :))
[02:57] <Sikon> Orasis1> if you install GNOME, nobody obliges you to use it, right?
[02:57] <BlueEagle> prower: did you concider LFS or Gentoo? :p
[02:57] <Orasis1> BlueEagle: Hah, yeah well I will still have my trusty XFCE, too bad I cannot uninstall it
[02:58] <chemikal> I'm on a 256 ram-computer with Gnome and it's working just fine for me.
[02:58] <Orasis1> Sikon: Well being meta.. it's pretty much stuck there
[02:58] <KenSentMe> compengi: standard the files created in the home dir have read access for other users, they can't write and execute. As i understand you don't want other users to even see your personal files, is that right?
[02:58] <paran> Orasis1: why do you belive that ubuntu-desktop can't be uninstalled?
[02:58] <Paddy_EIRE>  how do i set the default music player
[02:58] <prower> BlueEagle: I assume that wasn't meant for me :> But if it was then no, the only two OS's that I use at home now are Ubuntu and FreeBSD
[02:58] <BlueEagle> chemikal: Even when running OOo writer and calc and a webbrowser? That should be enough to kill it iirc.
[02:59] <Orasis1> Paran, from what I know you cannot totally remove it
[02:59] <chemikal> >BlueEagle: not a problem so far.
[02:59] <BlueEagle> prower: You are so rigth.
[02:59] <KenSentMe> Paddy_EIRE: right click on a music file (like mp3), choose properties and 'open with' and select the program
[02:59] <Orasis1> Ubuntu, should make a mubuntu version, with all WM's Gnome,KDE,XFCE,ICEWM,FLUX :D
[02:59] <compengi> KenSentMe i forgot the command but the idea is that i locks only my home folder where they can see and access the rest of the root folders
[02:59] <BlueEagle> chemikal: o'rly. What is your load average like if you keep swapping between the three?
[03:00] <paran> Orasis1: when you uninstall a meta package all packages that was installed to satisfy the meta packages dependencies will also be uninstalled
[03:00] <Sikon> Orasis1> and Enlightenment
[03:00] <KenSentMe> compengi: but you don't want them to enter your home folder, right?
[03:00] <Orasis1> Sikon: yes ;D
 i want it to be click song in folder and amarok loads.. I know what u mean though
[03:00] <msoul> back
[03:00] <Orasis1> paran: Are you sure about that?
[03:00] <msoul> bah I can't even pageup
[03:00] <agliv5> I've got a quick question, how do I configure Ubuntu to automatically start samba?
[03:00] <omnid> Someone said my name aparently
[03:00] <compengi> KenSentMe i want then only to be able to access there home folder only
[03:00] <compengi> them*
[03:00] <omnid> But it scrolled too much for me to know what was said
[03:00] <KenSentMe> Paddy_EIRE: if you do it through the properties it's for all the mp3 files
[03:00] <Paddy_EIRE> ahh
[03:01] <BlueEagle> agliv5: samba should (in theory) start automatically when it's installed iirc.
[03:01] <KenSentMe> compengi: so they can't go out of their home folder?
[03:01] <compengi> KenSentMe yes that's right
[03:01] <paran> Orasis1: anyway, even if you have gnome installed it won't "steal" any CPU power if you don't use it :)
[03:01] <Orasis1> paran: I do not think you can totally remove "ubuntu-desktop" after you install it
[03:02] <Orasis1> paran: No it wont, but it will steal the space its on though :))
 how do i get ubuntu to start playing a song when i move the mouse over it.... does it have to be an ogg file
[03:02] <KenSentMe> compengi: the other users may be able to access other folders, but they can't do anything, just open the files and that's it. So they can't destroy anything
[03:02] <agliv5> BlueEagle: ok, I'll see if you're right the next time I start ;)
[03:02] <KenSentMe> Paddy_EIRE: i don't know that
[03:02] <msoul> is there any other way to enable keyboard shortcuts
[03:02] <msoul> since I can't use anything
[03:02] <BlueEagle> agliv5: if you want to start it right away: sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[03:02] <plouk> hello everybody
[03:02] <msoul> pageup, alt+tab etc
[03:02] <compengi> KenSentMe i tried it by my self i can access my files and see them too
[03:02] <plouk> mp32ogg
[03:03] <BlueEagle> agliv5: but ut should have had its startup script added to /etc/rc2.d/
[03:03] <paran> Orasis1: it is a package like any other, you can remove it
[03:03] <BlueEagle> it*
[03:03] <Orasis1> paran: I will hold you to that word, if it proves untrue - I must destroy you sir. :P
[03:03] <Sp4rKy> does anyone use djplay ?
[03:04] <BlueEagle> !info djplay
[03:04] <ubotu> Package djplay does not exist in dapper
[03:04] <Orasis1> As for Samba, save teh headaches and simply install an ftp server on your windows machine ;D
[03:04] <BlueEagle> sp4rky: apperantly not. :p
[03:04] <KenSentMe> compengi: if you want to secure your home dir do this: chmod -R g-r /home/compengi
[03:04] <Sp4rKy> BlueEagle, :|
[03:04] <compengi> KenSentMe this what i had done
[03:04] <Sp4rKy> i now, i'm packaging it for edgy :D
[03:04] <msoul> Could you guys atleast explain to me why I can't use the keyboard shortcuts? pageup/alt+tab etc?
[03:04] <KenSentMe> compengi: did you use the -R option?
[03:04] <BlueEagle> sp4rky: #ubuntu+1
[03:04] <agliv5> BlueEagle: There are a lot of files in /etc/rc2.d/ but I can't identify any as sama startup script...
[03:04] <paran> Orasis1: however. I recomend you use aptitude, not apt-get when installing
[03:05] <compengi> KenSentMe yes
 why aptitude
[03:05] <Sp4rKy> BlueEagle, i know, i just would know if someone use it (custom compil) :)
[03:05] <Orasis1> paran: Reason?
[03:05] <KenSentMe> compengi: try chmod -R 0700 /home/compengi
[03:05] <compengi> but KenSentMe they still can go back to the main root folders and access them
[03:05] <paran> i think apt-get don't always mark packages as being installed to satisfy dependencies of other packages
[03:06] <Paddy_EIRE> oh
[03:06] <BlueEagle> agliv5: mine is called /etc/rc2.d/S20samba
[03:06] <KenSentMe> compengi: that's right, but you can't help that and it's no big deal. They can't do anything
[03:06] <compengi> KenSentMe how sure are you
[03:06] <Paddy_EIRE> is there a way of getting aptitude to go over all installed packages to catalogue them properly as i've always been using apt-get
[03:07] <KenSentMe> compengi: i have a server installed and i can only really do things using sudo, like altering config files in /etc/ or reading mails from my mailserver in /var/mail
[03:07] <paran> that might also have been fixed in apt-get now, I don't know :)
[03:07] <agliv5> BlueEagle: I've got a file K09Samba... but it's a incorrect shortcut...
[03:08] <compengi> KenSentMe and what does chmod -R 0700 /home/compengi do?
[03:08] <BlueEagle> agliv5: that would be in /etc/rc0.d/ or /etc/rc6.d/ I guess.
[03:08] <plouk> Bonjour les gens
[03:08] <jisatsu> I installed Ubuntu, and my network worked with the live CD mode, but now that it's installed, it's not working, I can't even load the gateway (192.168.1.1), any ideas why?
[03:08] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell plouk about fr
[03:08] <Paddy_EIRE> whats the most low resource version of linux avail anyone, needs gui, office web browser and the like
[03:09] <BlueEagle> plouk: Hello. For french support please use the channel specified by ubotu. :)
[03:09] <plouk> ya que des anglais ici
[03:09] <plouk> lol
[03:09] <paran> Paddy_EIRE: I don't know any automatic way, but you can do it manually for each package in aptitude.
[03:09] <KenSentMe> compengi: it sets the rights of all files and dirs in your home to read, write and execute for the owner only, group and others have no rights
[03:09] <KenSentMe> !fr > plouk
[03:09] <agliv5> BlueEagle: whatever, that's way over my understanding of ubuntu... either it automatically starts, or I just start it manually ;)
[03:10] <BlueEagle> plouk: any distro can be configured to use only a very very light weight windowmanager and the applications you specified.
[03:10] <thrillho> does anyone else have a problem with large fonts in firefox?
[03:10] <plouk> ok but what is the name of the saloon
[03:10] <bluefox83> Paddy_EIRE, gentoo, but it's not all easy-install happy like ubuntu is..
[03:10] <compengi> KenSentMe then it's more strikt then the previous one right
[03:10] <ucordes_> anyone here who is good in FreeBSD and ubuntu?
[03:10] <plouk> the french saloon
[03:10] <BlueEagle> agliv5: if you don't find S20samba in /etc/rc2.d/ then something is amiss.
 thats alright i wanna learn
[03:10] <rizo_> hi everyone
[03:11] <thegve> I'll ask again if you don't mind.. Does anyone know how I can execute as the root window in Nautilus. So you'll get an "active desktop" idea?
[03:11] <bluefox83> Paddy_EIRE, you'll get to compile *everything* you install...lol
[03:11] <brosnan> thrillho, In the menus and what not?
[03:11] <KenSentMe> compengi: probably not, because standard i think only the group has read rights in your home and since you've removed that right with chmod g-r, there hasn't changed much i think
[03:11] <rizo_> How can upgrade to Dapper Drake from Breezy using Dapper install cd?
[03:11] <mrbayHU> ubuntu is good!
[03:11] <mrbayHU> bye, cya later
[03:11] <thrillho> brosan: not necessarily menus, but certain webpages override my settings
[03:11] <shaantanu> I m plaining to download vmware ... any idea how much is the download ... and what r the space requirements ??
 what gentoo download is the latest and is there a dvd rom download
[03:12] <KenSentMe> thegve: you mean, run gksudo nautilus from command line?
[03:12] <thegve> shaantanu: download is about 70 MB or so
[03:12] <agliv5> BlueEagle: as long as I can share files over the network, then I'm not really worried about samba autmatically starting...
[03:12] <BlueEagle> agliv5: :)
[03:12] <bluefox83> Paddy_EIRE, i don't know..google their website and check it out yourself, you said you wanted to learn :)
[03:12] <thegve> shaantanu: but their website isn't very difficult, so you should be able to find out fast enough
 yeah
[03:12] <thrillho> brosan: I have 'allow pages to choose their own fonts...' unchecked in prefs but some pages still have very large fonts
[03:12] <msoul> can I get an explanation atleast guys
[03:12] <bluefox83> msoul, for what?
[03:12] <msoul> I can't use alt+tab pageup nor any of the other keys
[03:12] <BlueEagle> is there a curses script or similar text-mode version to configure which services are started at boot time?
[03:12] <brosnan> thrillho, websites can set the size of the fonts that they wish
[03:13] <rizo_> How can upgrade to Dapper Drake from Breezy using Dapper install cd?
[03:13] <compengi> KenSentMe do you know how much does a running shell with a psybnc needs processes so that i can limit it
[03:13] <Paddy_EIRE> trying to get shortcut as i should have went for the alternate ubuntu rather than the live
[03:13] <jrib> rizo_: do you have the alternate install cd for dapper?
[03:13] <Sikon> can someone help me with apt?
[03:13] <bluefox83> msoul, i dunno :/
[03:13] <KenSentMe> compengi: no, sorry
[03:13] <thrillho> brosan: but shouldn't that setting cause firefox to ignore the size specified by websites?
[03:13] <rizo_> Yes i have the install cd
[03:13] <msoul> bluefox83 it's a pity, I just installed ubuntu
[03:14] <Sikon> I tried to install a package and it wanted to remove a lot of other packages, so I said no
[03:14] <bluefox83> msoul, give it time, play with it..you'll get it to work
[03:14] <Sikon> but now, whenever I try to install a package, apt-get prompts me to remove all those
[03:14] <compengi> KenSentMe okay, and do you know to setup vhosts for mirc users?
[03:14] <msoul> bluefox83 hopefully :-)
[03:14] <KenSentMe> compengi: nope
[03:14] <brosnan> thrillho, what setting?
[03:14] <bluefox83> msoul, don't let something like your keyboard shortcuts keep you from enjoying a perfectly good distro ^_^
[03:14] <jrib> rizo_: specifically you need the _alternate_ cd to perform an upgrade, or at least this is what the download web site claims
[03:15] <compengi> KenSentMe can this command help me see the processes "ps -ef|grep <your process name or part there of>?
[03:15] <Sikon> what is the alternate CD anyway?
[03:15] <msoul> bluefox83 hehe it wont, it is just annoying
[03:15] <thrillho> brosan: tools > preferences > content > fonts & colors - advanced > allow pages to choose their own fonts... -- I have unchecked this
[03:15] <KenSentMe> compengi: i think so
[03:15] <KenSentMe> !alternate
[03:15] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.
[03:15] <bluefox83> msoul, try "System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts"
[03:16] <compengi> KenSentMe should i run it from the root or from the user's account?
[03:16] <Vlet> I've been using ubuntu for a while now on a desktop system, but last night I installed it on my laptop, and could not get wireless working at all, but it would work when booted off the live CD. Any ideas why?
[03:16] <msoul> bluefox83 I tried that and didn't understand it
[03:16] <KenSentMe> compengi: i think it should work without root
[03:16] <funky1> hi there ppl, i have a problem i just rebooted my ubuntu and now i can not access my sound card anymore or my tvcard, say i have no permissions, but with sudo i can, how to i change it back?
[03:17] <KenSentMe> !wireless > Vlet
[03:17] <KenSentMe> Vlet: check what ubotu sends you
[03:17] <compengi> KenSentMe thank you very much for your help :)
[03:17] <bluefox83> Vlet, yuou might try booting the live cd again, then go through and check all the temp settings and such, copy them over
[03:17] <BlueEagle> !info rcconf
[03:17] <ubotu> rcconf: Debian Runlevel configuration tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.17 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 112 kB
[03:17] <KenSentMe> compengi: no problem and good luck
[03:17] <BlueEagle> agliv5: sudo aptitude install rcconf
[03:17] <agliv5> BlueEagle: I tried to access my samba server from my windows computer and it said something to the effect "incorrect paramaters"... Any ideas?
[03:17] <compengi> KenSentMe ty ^.^
[03:17] <BlueEagle> agliv5: that will help you determine which services is started.
[03:18] <BlueEagle> agliv5: That really depends on how you configured your samba server. It's not as easy as install-and-go unfortunately.
[03:18] <compengi> KenSentMe do you any one that can help me with vhosts, i will appriciate it
[03:18] <jim__> does anyone know how I can get mozilla browser to watch a video clip  for windows media player, The gxnine says failed to start
[03:18] <Vlet> Thanks y'all
[03:18] <KenSentMe> compengi: just ask it here in this channel, if anyone knows they will help
[03:19] <compengi> ok
[03:19] <shaantanu> how much space shud i have in my linux partiotion for running vmware ??
[03:19] <funky1> hi there ppl, i have a problem i just rebooted my ubuntu and now i can not access my sound card anymore or my tvcard, say i have no permissions, but with sudo i can, how to i change it back?
[03:20] <compengi> do anyone know how to setup vhost for mirc
[03:20] <agliv5> BlueEagle: I was following a guide and did all the steps...  Unfortunately, the guide is not in english, but I can explain the steps...
[03:20] <jim__> Can anyone help with a media plugin proublem?
[03:20] <shaantanu> temme jim
[03:21] <fuzzybunny> can anyone in here produce a link with info on the ubuntu certified professional certification, its requirements, etc etc?
[03:21] <jim__> Well I can't watch video clip in browser
[03:21] <jim__> Says xnine plugin failed
[03:21] <POVaddct> funky1: check the group permissions of the devices and which groups your used belongs to
[03:21] <BlueEagle> agliv5: You could take your /etc/samba/smb.conf to pastebin and paste it there for me
[03:21] <BlueEagle> !pastebin
[03:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:21] <Thunderpants> jim__, have u tried mozilla-mplayer with w32codecs?
[03:22] <jim__> Where can I get that?
[03:22] <funky1> POVaddct: to which groups should i set it, i checked the video device it is set to root, but i didn't play around with that...
[03:22] <jim__> no I dont think I have
[03:22] <Thunderpants> dunno jim__ i used automatix
[03:22] <KenSentMe> fuzzybunny: maybe you'll find more info here: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/lpi1
[03:22] <jim__> Ill look for it
[03:22] <jim__>  thanks
[03:22] <Thunderpants> think there are in multiverse but i couldnt swear to it
[03:22] <KenSentMe> !restricted
[03:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:22] <fuzzybunny> KenSentMe: thank you
[03:22] <KenSentMe> jimcooncat: check that ^^^
[03:23] <POVaddct> funky1: there should be groups audio and video
[03:23] <fuzzybunny> KenSentMe: btw do you think that cert is worthwhile?
[03:23] <BlueEagle> funky1: which group is set for /dev/dsp and /dev/whateveryourtvcariscalledperhaps"btXXX"
[03:23] <BlueEagle> ?
[03:23] <POVaddct> funky1: can't check that now, i have no ubuntu system here
[03:23] <KenSentMe> fuzzybunny: have no idea, just knew there was a news article on the subject
[03:23] <compengi> does anyone know how to setup vhost for mirc
[03:23] <fuzzybunny> fkn worst spammer/flooder in here is the dam bot
[03:23] <BlueEagle> funky1: You might have to be in the audio, video and tv groups (if such a thing exists as a tv group)
[03:23] <funky1> BlueEagle: root
[03:23] <fuzzybunny> kk thank you KenSentMe
[03:23] <funky1> there are audio and video group
[03:24] <funky1> just added them to my user
[03:24] <BlueEagle> funky1: so /dev/dsp is root:root?
[03:24] <funky1> do i have to restart gdm then?
[03:24] <BlueEagle> funky1: yes.
[03:24] <BlueEagle> funky1: you need to log in again after changing a users groups.
[03:24] <funky1> dsp is root:audio
[03:24] <BlueEagle> funky1: then it's the audio group (not root).
[03:24] <bartm> I wonder why some ubuntu packages are clearly not free at all
[03:24] <funky1> ah oki maybe it will be fixed then, will relogin
[03:24] <BlueEagle> :=
[03:24] <BlueEagle> :)
[03:25] <POVaddct> funky1: you have to logout and login again if you changed groups for your user
[03:25] <funky1> oki thx for the help ppl :)
[03:25] <DanHowell> afternoon all
[03:25] <BlueEagle> fuzzybunny: You are allowed to /ignore ubotu if it bothers you. If you use irssi I recomend /ignore -replies ubotu which also will eliminate people going "ubotu: do something."
[03:25] <agliv5> BlueEagle: I only made the changes that the guide specified.... here's the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20659
[03:26] <KenSentMe> bartm: maybe because they are in the non-free repository
[03:26] <bartm> KenSentMe: I don't think so, for instance this one: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/u/ubuntu-calendar/ubuntu-calendar_5.03-2/copyright
[03:26] <bartm> KenSentMe: it's ubuntu specific, has no distribution license, so it's not allowed to redistribute this
[03:27] <KenSentMe> bartm: don't know about that
[03:27] <DanHowell> I've just installed 6.06 and my laptop isn't getting on with the power management system. How can I convince ubuntu that I'm using a desktop?
[03:27] <Tarandus> How can I setup a NAT firewall using Ubuntu?
[03:27] <zeroflag> are there packages for setting up apache with mod_mono?
[03:27] <BlueEagle> agliv5: from the windows box you can specify \\192.168.178.21\sharename if I remember correctly.
[03:27] <bartm> KenSentMe: I guess many ubuntu users don't know about the licenses...
[03:27] <compengi> does anyone know how to setup vhost for mirc
[03:27] <Tarandus> Is there a HowTo for me?
[03:28] <BlueEagle> agliv5: That will get past any difference in workgroups.
[03:28] <BlueEagle> agliv5: also I assume you've added a samba user.
[03:28] <eyequeue> compengi, this is #ubuntu
[03:28] <lemsx1> !aiglx
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aiglx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <Tarandus> !firewall
[03:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[03:29] <lemsx1> how do i unleash aiglx in Edgy?
[03:29] <BlueEagle> agliv5: sudo smbpasswd -a username
[03:29] <compengi> eyequeue do you have any other suggestions?
[03:29] <fyrestrtr> DanHowell: sudo apt-get remove --purge laptop-mode
[03:29] <eyequeue> !windows
[03:29] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[03:29] <baskew> !xgl
[03:29] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:29] <lemsx1> i have xcompmgr running fine and glx is active...
[03:29] <zeroflag> are there packages for setting up apache with mod_mono?
[03:29] <eyequeue> compengi, see ubotu
[03:30] <lemsx1> Compiz runs on aiglx in edgy? (i know it doesn't in other distros)
[03:30] <agliv5> BlueEagle: dirrectly inputing the network address under windows worked :)
[03:30] <compengi> eyequeue O.o what's ubotu
[03:30] <ubuntu> Hey everyone, I have been trying to get ubuntu to work on my iMac G3 but gdm wont start up, *I first made all the necessary changes then restarted* there is an error file but I dont know how to understand it, that and because its a live cd and I am using the console I do not know how to show you guys the file.
[03:30] <zeroflag> are there packages for setting up apache with mod_mono? (and does ubuntu use the same atp-get system as the classical debian?)
[03:30] <eyequeue> !windows > compengi
[03:30] <BlueEagle> agliv5: then your windows computer might be in a different workgroup (ie not Jedi-Rat) than the linux computer.
[03:30] <DanHowell> fyrestrtr: apparently laptop-mode isn't installed
[03:30] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell compengi about ubotu
[03:31] <fyrestrtr> DanHowell: that's what you need then, to get the power management working.
[03:31] <compengi> eyequeue do you know what's vhost is
[03:31] <KenSentMe> compengi: mIrc is a windows tool, it doesn't work on ubuntu
[03:31] <eyequeue> compengi, and i know what mirc is
[03:31] <eyequeue> compengi, we don't support thatr in #ubuntu
[03:32] <KenSentMe> compengi: sorry, my fault i said you could as around in this channel
[03:32] <tanlaan> sorry for the name "ubuntu"
[03:32] <KenSentMe> tanlaan: yeah, we all hate that name :p
[03:33] <compengi> guys lol my question wasn't concerning if mirc works on linux or no i'm not stupid, i was asking if someone knows how to setup vhosts
[03:33] <agliv5> BlueEagle: That's not the problem...  I can open the workgroup Jedi-Rat and see both the windows system and the samba server, but when I try to access the samba server from this dir it doesn't work... But who cares, it works with the IP :) Thanks!
[03:33] <DanHowell> fyrestrtr: I've tried sudo apt-get install laptop-mode but the system thinks the archive is at 1.0.0.0
[03:33] <tanlaan> anyways can anyone help?
[03:33] <BlueEagle> agliv5: You're welcome, and it might be windows caching your samba user creds. Not sur how to fix that tho.
[03:33] <fyrestrtr> DanHowell: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:33] <KenSentMe> compengi: but you asked of someone knows how to set up vhosts in mirc
[03:33] <tux> hola
[03:34] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell tux about es
[03:34] <tux> hay algun canal en espanol de ubuntu
[03:34] <compengi> KenSentMe because users use vhosts for irc
[03:34] <BlueEagle> tux: Hello. For spanish help please use the channel ubotu specified.
[03:34] <eyequeue> !es > tux
[03:34] <DanHowell> fyrestrtr: the terminal isn't doing the DNS lookup at all
[03:34] <Sikon> !windows
[03:34] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[03:35] <fyrestrtr> DanHowell: sounds like you have bigger problems. Network works?
[03:35] <DanHowell> I'll leave the problem for now. thanks very much
[03:35] <DanHowell> fyrestrtr: yes, and I can browse
[03:35] <DanHowell> but the terminal's not picking the DNS up
[03:36] <fyrestrtr> DanHowell: type dig yahoo.com
[03:36] <BlueEagle> danhowell: sounds like a broken source.list
[03:36] <DanHowell> I had to ping this server to give the numerical IP addy to irssi to get here in the first place
[03:36] <DanHowell> dig yahoo.com worked fine
[03:36] <fyrestrtr> DanHowell: then your sources list is not correct.
[03:36] <fyrestrtr> !easysource
[03:36] <DanHowell> ok
[03:36] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:37] <tanlaan> Hey everyone, I have been trying to get ubuntu to work on my iMac G3 but gdm wont start up, *I first made all the necessary changes then restarted* there is an error file but I dont know how to understand it, that and because its a live cd and I am using the console I do not know how to show you guys the file.
[03:38] <penguin42> tanlaan: is it pointing you to /var/log/Xorg.0.log or something similar?
[03:39] <tanlaan> penquin42: no, I meant that I found a hidden error file
[03:39] <DanHowell> fyrestrtr: where's sources.list?
[03:39] <penguin42> tanlaan: A hidden one?
[03:39] <tanlaan> penquin42: it was called ".xsession-errors" in my home folder
[03:39] <penguin42> ah ok that one
[03:40] <penguin42> tanlaan: Its unusual for a problem starting gdm to end up in there - exactly how far does it get?
[03:40] <compengi> KenSentMe do you know any channel for the stuff i need
[03:40] <tanlaan> penquin42: well when i do
[03:40] <tanlaan> penquin42: grr
[03:40] <DanHowell> fyrestrtr: where should sources.list be?
[03:41] <KenSentMe> compengi: i don't even know what vhosts in irc are, so i can't help you
[03:41] <tanlaan> penquin42: "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" it will stop gdm then when it tries to start it fails
[03:41] <penguin42> tanlaan: Don't growl at your mac - you'll scare it
[03:41] <penguin42> tanlaan: What happens if you just try and start X?
[03:41] <fyrestrtr> DanHowell: read that website
[03:41] <tanlaan> penguin42: how do i do that?
[03:41] <penguin42> tanlaan: Try     startx
[03:41] <bluefox83> DanHowell, /etc/apt/
[03:42] <penguin42> tanlaan: I assume at this point you are outside X at a plain console prompt?
[03:42] <lemsx1> no compiz-aiglx package in Edgy uh?
[03:43] <fyrestrtr> tanlaan: read the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log -- it will tell you why gdm is not starting
[03:43] <compengi> KenSentMe it's a virtual host that will replace your ip with something cool when you whois him for instance KenSentMe@some.thing.cool.net
[03:43] <BusMaster> i have installed dapper drake on my pc having 384 mb ram. After about 40 minutes of usage (firefox, evolution, xmms) the memory becomes full (free -m shows that all swap is used and about 2 mb of memory is free). then system slows to a crawl adn I have to preset the reset switch. What should I do to solve the problem?
[03:43] <eyequeue> #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[03:43] <penguin42> BusMaster: How much swap have you got?
[03:43] <BusMaster> this did not happen on sarge, which I was using previously
[03:43] <BusMaster> Penguin: 133mb
[03:44] <BusMaster> Penguin: i've run hoary, breezy, debain potato and sarge on the same machine without any issues
[03:44] <tanlaan> fyrestrtr: is there anywhere i should look specifically?
[03:44] <penguin42> BusMaster: That's a bit on the low side these days - firefox eats ram
[03:44] <lemsx1> BusMaster: swap should be 1.5 times the real RAM
[03:44] <fyrestrtr> tanlaan: its pretty verbose about X not starting. Usually the first few lines will tell you
[03:44] <lemsx1> BusMaster: 380 * 1.5 = ?
[03:45] <BusMaster> Penguin: lemsx1 : but what you are saying implies that if I increase my swap, the problem will go away. but swapping to disk is still slow, isn't it?
[03:45] <penguin42> lemsx1: That's only a rule of thumb
[03:45] <lemsx1> BusMaster: you can always add swap by making a simple file
[03:45] <BusMaster> lemsx1: how?
[03:45] <tanlaan> fyrestrtr: actually it was at the bottom and it was having an error finding /dev/wacom
[03:45] <lemsx1> penguin42: yep. a general rule that should work for most people... firefox is getting better at not leaking memory, and it works good in dapper
[03:46] <lemsx1> BusMaster: google is your friend
[03:46] <penguin42> BusMaster: Yes, if you increase swap then you won't run out - standard Ubuntu does seem to be fairly RAM/swap hungry; my Dapper box with 512M ram is currently using 355M RAM and 320M swap
[03:46] <lemsx1> BusMaster: look for "adding swap space as regular file"
[03:46] <fyrestrtr> tanlaan: that's not it, its something else then.
[03:46] <BusMaster> Penguin: lemsx1 in sarge, which I was using previously with the same configuration...I could open many many programs for several days and not face any memory problems. is something in dapper leaking memory?
[03:46] <penguin42> BusMaster: Were you running full Gnome and firefox?
[03:47] <lemsx1> BusMaster: should be as simple as: dd if=/dev/zero of=/swap_file count=1024 bs=1M (for 1GB)
[03:47] <DanHowell> going to reboot and give this another go
[03:47] <BusMaster> Penguin: i was running gnome and galeon
[03:47] <tanlaan> fyrestrtr: well I'm not seeing anything else
[03:47] <penguin42> BusMaster: firefox seems to be hungry
[03:47] <jisatsu> Ubuntu doesn't pick up my network, but it works with the live CD, any ideas why?
[03:47] <BusMaster> lemsx1: and i guess swapon later on
[03:47] <lemsx1> BusMaster: Dapper is a desktop (real one). memory hungry bastard
[03:47] <jisatsu> I'm using the live CD right now btw
[03:47] <lemsx1> BusMaster: Sarged used 2.6.8 kernel... ;-)
[03:48] <BusMaster> lemsx1: is kde less memory hungry than gnome?
[03:48] <penguin42> it is embarrassingly memory hungry
[03:48] <BusMaster> lemsx1: and you mean 2.6.15 uses more ram?
[03:48] <lemsx1> BusMaster: i dislike KDE. and don't want to start that conversation here
[03:48] <BusMaster> lemsx1: ok :)
[03:48] <penguin42> BusMaster: If you are tight on RAM you might want to look at xubuntu which I think uses xfce or something
[03:48] <lemsx1> BusMaster: depending on how much drivers and stuff you are using, i believe so. 2.6.12+ kernels use a lot more ram
[03:49] <BusMaster> Penguin: I'll try creating a swap file and put it in my startup[ scripts
[03:49] <lemsx1> BusMaster: that's when initramfs was introduced
[03:49] <compengi> is there any HTML channel on this server?
[03:49] <BusMaster> lemsx1: oh, i see
[03:49] <lemsx1> BusMaster: startup scripts? no /etc/fstab only my friend
[03:49] <penguin42> lemsx1: Why do you believe initramfs uses a lot of RAM? Doesn't it free it after the pivot?
[03:49] <jisatsu> anyone? I can't even connect to my gateway, which leads me to believe the network interface isn't functioning
[03:49] <BusMaster> lemsx1: that simple...i'll google immediately
[03:49] <lemsx1> BusMaster: google that first. dd only creates the file, then you need to format it and add it to your /etc/fstab file. then use swapon -a
[03:50] <kalessin> hi
[03:50] <frogzoo> compengi: if you find a way to connect to freenode on port 80, I'd like to know
[03:50] <penguin42> jisatsu: does an ifconfig -a     show your eth0 ?
[03:50] <yeager> jisatsu: sudo ifconfig -a. which interfaces are listed?
[03:50] <brosnan> BusMaster, http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/memusage.html and http://kb.mozillazine.org/Standard_diagnostic_-_Firefox
[03:50] <lemsx1> penguin42: i'm just saying that 2.6.12 kernels and up use more ram than 2.6.8 (used in Sarge)
[03:50] <jisatsu> I can't check this minute, I'm using the live CD, but I'll give it a go when I reboot :)
[03:50] <compengi> frogzoo are you kidding me?
[03:50] <lemsx1> penguin42: be it initramfs or whatever other code/driver
[03:51] <frogzoo> compengi: no, I'm dead serious
[03:51] <penguin42> jisatsu: OK, get the output of ifconfig -a,    and    route
[03:51] <jisatsu> it /did/ show a network adapter being there when I looked under administration -> networking
[03:51] <BusMaster> brosnan: thanks
[03:51] <penguin42> there is a #webtech somewhere
[03:51] <tanlaan> fyrestrtr: hmmm, theres a warning that the video bios cant be found
[03:51] <jisatsu> ok, brb a sec then
[03:52] <siratik000> Anyone know of a place to find tutorials on optimizing LAMP on ubuntu?
[03:52] <yeager> siratik000: google knows
[03:52] <lemsx1> siratik000: howtoforge.com <--- there
[03:52] <edgarin> Hi to all you know about LTSP?
[03:53] <BusMaster> if I said that galeon is better than firefox with respect to memory usage, would I be right?
[03:53] <yeager> busmaster: then you're right (even though that memory costs almost nothing)
[03:54] <BusMaster> yeager: ok. I'm switching back to galeon, rather than figuring out where firefox is hogging memory and optimizing it :)
[03:54] <camer0ff> quick question: how do i get mp3's, avi's, and wmv's working under ubuntu?
[03:54] <linux_user400354> !paste
[03:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:54] <ych> !restricted
[03:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:58] <doublehp> (15:58:06) wotdu: go rea
[03:58] <doublehp>  how to start GDM twice at a time in 2 different terms ?
[03:58] <doublehp> ( sorry for garbage )
[03:58] <steven43126_> Anyone got freenx running under ubuntu, i can manage to authenticat fine but get the following errors ? http://www.copypot.com/467
[04:01] <BusMaster> lemsx1: ok..I added 600mb more swap..lets see if that helps
[04:01] <jisatsu> I booted back into Ubuntu, and suddenly the network's working :) so no idea what happened there, thanks for the help though
[04:01] <penguin42> doublehp: Hmm it should be possible - although starting 2 X servers can be touchy depending on the drivers
[04:02] <doublehp> penguin forget driver problem; if possible, how to ?
[04:02] <cooncat> 
[04:03] <compengi> any dvd to vcd converters and burner for ubuntu?
[04:03] <penguin42> doublehp: let me just check I understand what you are trying to do; you want to start two gdm's each on a different virtual console so you can flick between them with ctrl-alt-f7 and ctrl-alt-f8  ?
[04:03] <siratik000> Everyone: How would i scan a directory structure for htaccess files? ls .htaccess doesn't seem to work even though i'm pretty sure they are there
[04:04] <doublehp> penguin42:  Y
[04:04] <eyequeue> siratik000, you may need ls -a
[04:04] <penguin42> doublehp: OK, I think I know how to start 2 X servers, but I'm not sure how to start 2 gdm's
[04:04] <yeager> doublehp: why two gdm's? The X server has support for dual heads but running 2 gdm's is not good
[04:05] <compengi> does anyone knows a dvd to vcd converter and burner for ubuntu?
[04:05] <penguin42> yeager: It doesn't like he wants two heads - which is why I asked
[04:05] <doublehp> yeager: penguin42 6y experience with many things; today, monohead, I want two parallel X running, but I Cant use startx/xinit; I absolutely require a ligin interface; so asking you about gdm, while reading man xdm apart
[04:06] <jmspeex> mneptok: About what I was mentioning earlier, don't you think it would make sense for the Xsession (not servers) stuff to set limits like (e.g for a 1GB machine) memoryuse=800G maxproc=1000 and things like that?
[04:06] <penguin42> doublehp: Yeh - the only time I've seen something similar done is when people do remote start of X servers but they are Xvnc servers I'm thinking of
[04:06] <jmspeex> oops
[04:07] <steven43126_> doublehp, can't you use xinit and specify to gdm which xserver it works on ?
[04:07] <doublehp> steven43126_: I just said I need a login screen for security reasons
[04:08] <tappad> Hi, does anyone know about the networking-problem with nforce-lan and MS dual-booting
[04:08] <eyequeue> doublehp, i didn't understand the logon bit either
[04:09] <penguin42> doublehp: Hmm, look in gdm.conf - there is a '[servers] ' section, there is a    0=Standard uncommented and a commented out one below that which is #1=Standard
[04:09] <steven43126_> doublehp, take a look at gdmdynamic
[04:09] <Denial> hi all
[04:09] <DARKGuy> Greetings :) it's me again (I'm so annoying, lol :P)... anyhow!. Full sound like in Windoze is impossible in Linux right? as when any app starts using sound, others, or lose it for the moment, or can't use it anymore, or just don't load it :( for example I want to use XMMS while playing WoW. Cedega can use ALSA and OSS, XMMS uses ALSA, OSS doesn't work but ESD does. Also in the sound settings the ESD setting is on, and I can play system sounds while usin
[04:09] <DARKGuy> g XMMS (tried a few mins ago) so... what's the problem here :( ?
[04:09] <Denial> do someone know how to extract *.daa files ?
[04:10] <lens> it seems like the search feature doesn't work well ... I have lost a program (a folder) and search engine cant find it.  so how do I find out where I put it?
[04:11] <steven43126_> anyone got FreeNX working under ubuntu ?
[04:11] <erUSUL> DARKGuy: if you want to use more than one app to play sounds and dmix does not work for you you have to use esd in all apps
[04:11] <DARKGuy> lens: through the console: ls | grep ? find ? locate?
[04:11] <compengi> does anyone knows a dvd to vcd converter and burner for ubuntu?
[04:11] <penguin42> steven43126_: Neat
[04:11] <eyequeue> Denial, http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=DAA
[04:11] <designdream> anyone have any recommendations for a versioning filesystem for webdesigners?
[04:11] <lemsx1> compengi: GUI or not?
[04:11] <lens> DARKGuy oh ok, thanks I will try those commands.
[04:11] <lemsx1> compengi: v2v.sf.net Perl script (my project)
[04:12] <lemsx1> compengi: shameless plug :-P
[04:12] <DARKGuy> lens: welcome :P
[04:12] <lens> thanks :-P
[04:12] <eyequeue> Denial, sounds proprietary, write them
[04:13] <DARKGuy> erUSUL: Hm, aMSN asks for a "command" for playing sound, what would be the one for ESD then? in Cedega settings it won't screw up my card (I think o.O?) if in the OSS setting I put ESD devices or I'm just talking gibberish :P? (it has something like /dev/dsp and such)
[04:13] <Denial> eyequeue, i dont have an dvdrom i need only some files from the daa file ...
[04:13] <doublehp> steven43126_ cant find how to ... gdmgreeter also seems nice, but there is no good doc
[04:14] <eyequeue> lens, also, tryically you should only write to your home directory (~)   next time
[04:15] <Darkhack> Can anyone here give me some insight on prism54usb AKA: islsm?  Can it be installed on a default Dapper install?
[04:15] <Denial> eyequeue, but i dont have poweriso in source list ... `!?
[04:15] <eyequeue> Denial, if it is "compressed, password protected, etc" i think you're stuck
[04:15] <lens> eyequeue... ok, thanks :)
[04:16] <eyequeue> Denial, no, as i said, it sounds proprietary
[04:17] <steven43126_> doublehp, no can't find a decent howto either the format appears to be something like gdmdynamic -a something -dev device to start it on ?
[04:17] <eyequeue> Denial, pay then #30, plus pay that other company for their "os" if you need those files, i guess
[04:18] <Denial> eyequeue,  proprietary ?
[04:18] <Denial> eyequeue,  what os ? sorry i dont understand
[04:18] <doublehp> steven43126_: as for xinit, I was hoping xdm -- :1 or so ...
[04:18] <ymlu> DARKGuy: i just try xmms and mpg321 and sound working perfect
[04:18] <ymlu> both
[04:19] <eyequeue> Denial, $29.95 http://www.poweriso.com/    plus microsoft windows
[04:19] <erUSUL> DARKGuy: alsa has osss emulation but you should avoid usin oss as it is an obsolete api. Apps should have an explicit option to use esd
[04:19] <eyequeue> Denial, i don't know what ms charges these days for that
[04:19] <Denial> eyequeue, mkay , is there no Open src tool for ?
[04:20] <steven43126_> no one here using freeNX ?
[04:20] <DARKGuy> yes ymlu, MPlayer and XMMS work together though =/ that's what puzzles me
[04:20] <eyequeue> Denial, as i said, it seems to be a proprietary format, write them and ask them to use OPEN protocols
[04:20] <DARKGuy> erUSUL: lol, too bad :(, and it's even a commercial app.... shame shame :P o.o I'll have to live with it I guess
[04:20] <ymlu> now mplayer xmms and mpg321 working together
[04:20] <DARKGuy> o.o
[04:21] <ymlu> xubuntu
[04:21] <DARKGuy> ah, ubuntu only here :P shouldn't have difference though oO
[04:21] <Denial> eyequeue, lol i understand now ;o)
[04:22] <ymlu> perfect, i even dont touch sound config
[04:22] <ych> ok, i need some help on my real basic unix commands... how do i connect to and log into another machine with command promt?
[04:23] <Orasis1> Hrmm
[04:23] <doublehp> ok ... How to start "just X", and specify the terminal where to start it (vt8 or vt9) and also the programs to start in ...
[04:23] <Orasis1> Does the default XFCE/UBUNTU terminal Lack "transparency" abilities? - or is it that the "radeon" driver does not allow it?
[04:23] <Denial> eyequeue, thx
[04:23] <Ad> can I move my whole unstallation to a new disk?
[04:23] <eyequeue> Denial, np
[04:23] <kevin__> anybody have any clue why my boot disk doesn't work when i retart my system? it definetly works because i was using the browser for it
[04:23] <eyequeue> Ad, dd
[04:23] <DARKGuy> Orasis1: Transparency's working here, default config, so it should
[04:24] <kevin__> restart*
[04:24] <DARKGuy> Orasis1: you just have to configure it in the Profiles menu
[04:24] <eyequeue> Ad, you'll need to change your grub configs to point to it of couse
[04:25] <steven43126_> doublehp,  xterm  -geometry  +1+1  -n  login  -display  :0
[04:25] <Ad> eyequeue: yup, can i move grub to the new drive too?
[04:25] <Orasis1> DARKGuy: What do you mean the "profiles" menu?
[04:25] <ych> whats the command to connect to a remote machine?
[04:25] <eyequeue> Ad, yes, man dd
[04:25] <eyequeue> ych, ssh, typically
[04:25] <skroll> Does anyone know of a decent console based ftp client with a gui (sort of like midnight commmander, but with bookmarks and a queue)?
[04:26] <ych> thanks
[04:26] <DARKGuy> Orasis1: sorry, my mistake. Edit menu, Actual Profile
[04:26] <Frankenstein> did anyone elses ubuntu restart today?
[04:26] <Sikon> can I hide the text log under the progressbar from the boot splash screen?
[04:26] <DARKGuy> Actual, or current
[04:27] <_xXx_> algun latino por el set
[04:27] <kevin__> do you need to download something else before you pop in the live cd?
[04:27] <DARKGuy> Orasis1: then Effects tab, transparent background option
[04:27] <Frankenstein> i looked in my /var/log/messages and found this: Aug 15 07:24:03 localhost syslogd 1.4.1#17ubuntu7: restart.   but i wasnt there at 7:24AM this morning...
[04:27] <Ad> eyequeue: thanx
[04:27] <DARKGuy> _xXx_: yo, pero el mejor canal para espaol es #ubuntu-es, ac no les gusta mucho que hables en espaol :P
[04:28] <Orasis1> DARKGuy: I have edit -> preferences, set transparency.. set it max and middle to no avail
[04:28] <DARKGuy> Orasis1: How weird oO! must be your X then, or the drivers... it's weird, even the standard config without any special drivers can do it :/ dunno what to tell you then =(
[04:28] <eyequeue> Ademan, no prob
[04:29] <Orasis1> DARKGuy: Which distro are you running?, Ubuntu Gnome?, Kubuntu or XUbuntu?
[04:29] <_xXx_> ok
[04:29] <DARKGuy> Orasis1: Ubuntu :P
[04:30] <Orasis1> DARKGuy: Ahh perhaps thats why I am on Xubuntu with XFCE, I am sure it uses a different Terminal program..
[04:31] <djcabz> there is a non gnome/kde ubuntu....
[04:31] <mathieu_> if i build a kernel where nothing changes except the processor type, can i still use the same initrd ?
[04:32] <DARKGuy> Orasis1: Ah, it might be too, but if it uses XFCE's internal terminal program... I'm not sure but I think that one can't do it, I remember my times with XFCE I guess. You'll have to try another terminal that fits your needs. Try aTerm, that one supports transparency (through the command line)
[04:32] <MightyBall> i'm having trouble with my gnome/gconf stuff. various things are behaving wierd. mouse acceleration screwed up and wont save, can't change themes, etc.
[04:32] <beesandflowers> hello all. i am trying to install ubuntu as dual boot on a laptop (next to xp). i used sysresccd.org to partition my harddisk as instructed in an ubuntuform. now i wonder, do i need to set the root partition active before i install ubuntu? now i have to hda1 (xp) as active disk
[04:32] <MightyBall> and tons of keys in gconf say the schema is missing
[04:32] <steven43126_> mathieu, depends if the processor arch has changed
[04:33] <Orasis1> DARKGuy: Yeah I was reading it cannot do it :( ah well
[04:33] <DARKGuy> djcabz: XUbuntu. It isn't Gnome, neither is KDE. Uses XFCE which is based on Gnome and looks similar, and lightweight
[04:33] <DARKGuy> :( sorry Orasis1, aterm is a good one for those cases :)
[04:33] <djcabz> now I know why I idle in here some days... learn something new!  thanks.
[04:33] <Orasis1> djcabz: So do I but transparency would not be a bad thing to add :))
[04:33] <mathieu_> steven43126_: i would be changing the kernel config to be i386
[04:34] <eyequeue> beesandflowers, specify which partition you want to install on at the time
[04:34] <quickblaine> hey, can anyone help out with ubuntu/ipod problems? (.trash folder, permissions etc)
[04:34] <Orasis1> I like Gnome, but still too heavy - and KDE, eww.. too much way too much bloat
[04:34] <beesandflowers> ok, i will boot the ubuntu cd and stay online to ask ...
[04:35] <cr3> what part of Ubuntu automatically mounts USB devices I plug into my machine?
[04:35] <steven43126_> mathieu, the initrd has kernel modules, and programs in it, just like a mini file system so if the rest of your programs will continue to just work so should the initrd
[04:35] <eyequeue> beesandflowers, just don't choose any option that makes all your choice for you (whatever that one is called)
[04:35] <djcabz> Orasis1:  I share that opinion.  ultimately it does depend on what one is planning to do.  I got hooked on xfce through the lfs project, but I think Ubuntu is the linux distro of choice these days..?
[04:35] <godzirra> is there a way to upgrade to mysql 5 on ubuntu?
[04:35] <steven43126_> mathieu, but to be safe id always use one compiled with the same tool chain and setup of the kernel
[04:35] <ych> a boot drive doesn't have to be master does it?
[04:35] <beesandflowers> eyequeue: ok. do i need to boot the live cd before installation? i would like to install without that, but i cannot find the necessary options i need to start the cd with
[04:36] <rainbird51> hello
[04:36] <eyequeue> beesandflowers, any of the cds, but i've always booted my install media, i don't know of any way to do it otherwise
[04:37] <eyequeue> beesandflowers, the alternate cd is good if you like :)
[04:37] <beesandflowers> well i will do the live cd boot then install thingy
[04:37] <designdream> anyone have an opinion on wayback versioning file system?
[04:37] <Orasis1> djcabz: Ubuntu has the power of super cows.
[04:38] <djcabz> lol..  well, the ubuntu philosophy is what I think will win the day....
[04:38] <MightyBall> any gnome experts in here?
[04:40] <mathieu_> if i build a kernel where nothing changes except the processor type, can i still use the same modules that were built for my current kernel ?
[04:40] <fredrin> Anyone here uses the OTRS ticket system?
[04:42] <rainbird51> I am new to Linux, when I try to do a sudo apt-get I get an error: not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/apt-get' as root on localhost.localdoman
[04:42] <rainbird51> I am in the sudo group
[04:42] <DARKGuy`WoW> rainbird51: you're already root, no need to use sudo. You shouldn't though. Login with your normal user and then use sudo
[04:43] <eyequeue> rainbird51, weird.  ls -l /usr/bin/apt-get
[04:43] <DARKGuy`WoW> rainbird51: using root as the normal user account is dangerous as you can screw things up without even knowing x_X
[04:43] <rainbird51> here is the whole error
[04:43] <rainbird51> rainbird51@1[~] $ sudo apt-get
[04:43] <rainbird51> Sorry, user rainbird51 is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/apt-get' as root on localhost.localdomain.
[04:43] <torpedo|dog> DARKGuy`WoW: are you sure he's already running as root?
[04:44] <eyequeue> rainbird51, i was hoping "as root" meant using sudo.  what DARKGuy`WoW said
[04:44] <eyequeue> rainbird51, ls -l /usr/bin/apt-get
[04:44] <slicslak> where are the gnome settings kept?  just .gnome and .gnome2?
[04:44] <DARKGuy`WoW> Yeah, he looks like being running sudo while already being root oO oh well
[04:45] <torpedo|dog> slicslak: mostly in .gnome2, but also in GConf.
[04:45] <rainbird51> rainbird51@1[~] $ ls -l /usr/bin/apt-get
[04:45] <rainbird51> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 129332 2006-04-18 12:47 /usr/bin/apt-get
[04:45] <DARKGuy`WoW> told ya
[04:45] <slicslak> torpedo|dog, i'm looking for directories to delete.  GConf is an application right?
[04:46] <torpedo|dog> slicslak: GConf is a way for applications to store settings. I think it stores its stuff in .gnome2.
[04:46] <slicslak> ok, thanks.
[04:46] <torpedo|dog> slicslak: if you're looking for things to delete, clear out your .thumbnails directory.
[04:46] <slicslak> ya, i just want to remove my old settings.
[04:46] <penguin42> there is also a .gconf and .gconfd directory on mine
[04:47] <rainbird51> how do I fix it?
[04:47] <torpedo|dog> DARKGuy`WoW: How'd you 'tell ya'?
[04:47] <godzirra> is there a way to upgrade to mysql 5 on ubuntu?
[04:47] <rainbird51> or am I using it wrong
[04:47] <djcabz> !es
[04:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:47] <djcabz> morning!
[04:47] <DARKGuy`WoW> torpedo|dog: well it said running 'sudo as root' so oO
[04:48] <slicslak> penguin42, oh?  there wasn't on mine.  thanks
[04:49] <torpedo|dog> godzirra: are you using Ubuntu Breezy or Dapper?
[04:50] <godzirra> torpedo|dog: I dont think so.  How do I tell?
[04:50] <godzirra> torpedo|dog: and if not, how do I upgrade?
[04:50] <doublehp> penguin42 I found a tutorial in my ~/ about my gdm problem; tuto says to edit /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf , then duplicate 0=Standard , and create 1=Standard1, and also duplicate the section [server-Standard]  ; in each, the command shall have the form "command=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -br -audit 0 vt8" which can be tweaked vt7 or vt9
[04:50] <torpedo|dog> godzirra: go to System > About Ubuntu, and tell me what is italicised.
[04:51] <penguin42> doublehp: Ah OK
[04:52] <ro3> i have kde running on my normal 0 display (TTY7), but i want gnome to run on tty8, i can get a Xserver to start on tty8, but how do i start gnome on there?
[04:53] <ToHellWithGA> If anybody has experience with CUPS or LPD and konica/minolta QMS printers i'd appreciate some help.  When printing a test page i get a few lines of text followed by one line of characters printed over each other
[04:54] <ro3> i have kde running on my normal 0 display (TTY7), but i want gnome to run on tty8, i can get a Xserver to start on tty8, but how do i start gnome on there?.
[04:54] <MightyBall> i'm having trouble with my gnome/gconf stuff. various things are behaving wierd. mouse acceleration screwed up and wont save, can't change themes, etc.
[04:54] <ToHellWithGA> The legible lines are "POST / HTTP/1.1\nContent-Length: 259\ Content-Type: application/ipp\nHost: 192.168.1.100\nUser-Agent: CUPS/1.2.2\nExpect: 100-continue"
[04:55] <Ng> ro3: do you have a shell or something running on it? if so just run gnome-session
[04:55] <ToHellWithGA> s/\\ /\\n/
[04:55] <Ng> ro3: you could probably tinker with GDM's config to make it spawn itself (and thus X servers) on tty7 and 8
[04:55] <ro3> Ng: how?
[04:55] <ro3> like whats the term comand
[04:56] <Ng> ro3: if you have a terminal running, "gnome-session", if you've just run X on its own you'll need to use something like startx or the GDM thing I mentioned
[04:56] <javiolo> hi
[04:56] <ro3> isnt there a command just to display gnome session on tty8? like DISPLAY=:1 gnome session?
[04:57] <ro3> but that aint working
[04:57] <javiolo> is it possible to make a server install from the alternate cd or the desktop cd ?
[04:57] <che> could someone paste his fstab (preferably reiserfs) and grub.conf?
[04:58] <MightyBall> argh
[04:59] <penguin42> ro3: A simple way (that I just tried) is to go to System->Quit, and do switch user and then log in with kde on the other session - that landed on ctrl-alt-f9 for me
[04:59] <DrOiD> p+p
[05:00] <BlueEagle> javiolo: You can make a server install from the alternate cd
[05:00] <fuzzybunny> Can anyone recommend a good Linux cert like MCSA level?
[05:00] <javiolo> BlueEagle ok thanks
[05:01] <BlueEagle> javiolo: Atleat you can from the xubuntu alternate cd. I would be amazed if that option was not present on the ubuntu alternate.
[05:01] <Lane> rhce
[05:01] <XiXaQ> Help! I have one user account, but I made a mistake, and now that user doesn't have sudo access. How do I fix this?
[05:01] <Lane> Redhat Certified Enggineer
[05:01] <javiolo> ok one more thing when I go to the console ctrl + alt+ f1 the font used is too big and doesnt fit all nice, any idea ?
[05:01] <g-nome> hello, can i use google talk in ubuntu?
[05:02] <ych> ok, i got a problem here. i installed ubuntu on my other machine, and when i reboot after the install progress is complete, i get the following:     "Searching for Boot Record from IDE-2..OK    -    Error loading operating system"
[05:02] <Lane> Anyone know a security channel for Ubuntu
[05:02] <BlueEagle> ych: is that before or after the boot menu shows up?
[05:02] <javiolo> lane dont know just ask here...
[05:02] <XiXaQ> g-nome: I'm not sure wether you can use the program or not. I think Google Talk uses Jabber protocol. There are numerous of clients for that protocol available in Ubuntu.
[05:02] <ych> what is the boot menu?
[05:02] <BlueEagle> lane: ubuntu-hardened?
[05:02] <erUSUL> XiXaQ: from a livecd editing /etc/sudoers or/and /etc/groups
[05:03] <BlueEagle> ych: It is the one where you choose which kernel to load.
[05:03] <g-nome> XiXaQ: i know, but i mean google talk with wine, does it work?
[05:03] <XiXaQ> g-nome: I'll read up on google talk and hopefully give you a better answer in a few minutes.
[05:03] <BlueEagle> ych: it lists your kernel as the first entry then it lists it again with (safe mode) appended.
[05:03] <ych> i havent had a selection like that, no
[05:03] <ych> i dont even remember getting that when i boot on this machine....
[05:03] <BlueEagle> ych: Then I think you installed GRUB to the wrong disk.
[05:03] <marcel__> I thinkyou can use google talk
[05:03] <Lane> Thank you BlueEagle
[05:03] <g-nome> marcel__, did you test it?
[05:04] <ych> what is GRUB?
[05:04] <g-nome> the boot manager
[05:04] <BlueEagle> ych: GRUB = Grand Unified Boot Loader.
[05:04] <BlueEagle> ych: it is what starts linux.
[05:04] <marcel__> well, I opend my gmail and then catted with my friend
[05:04] <ubunewb> hi, does anybody know how do I add a shortcut to icewm/gdm ?
[05:04] <ych> how do i select what to install it to?
[05:04] <marcel__> chatted, so yes
[05:04] <g-nome> marcel__: but i mean "Google talk", so also speech
[05:04] <BlueEagle> ych: There should have been an option for that when you installed ubuntu,
[05:04] <ych> ummm not really
[05:04] <BlueEagle> ych: yes there should.
[05:04] <ych> when should i have had that option?
[05:04] <marcel__> that I haven't tried
[05:05] <danf_1979> is there any console install command in the live cd?
[05:05] <BlueEagle> ych: One of the last steps is to install the boot loader.
[05:05] <ych> well i dont remember it, any idea of where it woulda been?
[05:05] <XiXaQ> g-nome: According to Google, you cannot use Google Talk in Linux. You may be able to do so using WiNE.. However, Google lists some alternatives.. First of all GAIM (Which supports MSN, IRC, Jabber (Google Talk) and others.
[05:05] <BlueEagle> danf_1979: no.
[05:05] <g-nome> marcel__: it's very cool i would ;-)
[05:05] <danf_1979> ok
[05:05] <BlueEagle> danf_1979: You will need the alternate install cd for that.
[05:05] <g-nome> XiXaQ: thanks, i already saw that, but i wonder if it works fine with Wine
[05:05] <danf_1979> Uhm, I'll download it and see thanks
[05:05] <BlueEagle> ych: where what would have been?
[05:05] <marcel__> you want to open you gmail and try?
[05:05] <ych> hmmm i had to select language and stuff like that, then pick a hard drive and partition to install linux to, and i did that, and then it started installing
[05:05] <ych> the option, but you answered that allready
[05:06] <XiXaQ> g-nome: are you running Ubuntu now?
[05:06] <BlueEagle> ych: and please, when sending text to me please precede it with: blueeagle:
[05:06] <BlueEagle> ych: it helps me catchi it.
[05:06] <ych> ok
[05:06] <bit_doidao> XiXaQ, probably a lot :)
[05:06] <g-nome> ANYONE USING *GOOGLE TALK* in Ubuntu here!?
[05:06] <ych> BlueEagle: ok
[05:06] <g-nome> XiXaQ: not atm, but i will certainly try
[05:06] <g-nome> to install
[05:06] <bit_doidao> XiXaQ, ops, o readed anyone using ubuntu now? :P
[05:06] <BlueEagle> ych: as for repairing it that's a tad difficult. Do you know if your network was set up correctly on the livecd?
[05:06] <bit_doidao> XiXaQ, ops, i readed anyone using ubuntu now? :P
[05:06] <che> could someone paste his fstab (preferably reiserfs) and grub.conf?
[05:06] <ych> didnt test it, no
[05:07] <XiXaQ> g-nome: You don't have to install it in order to try it you know.
[05:07] <XiXaQ> bit_doidao: thanks for clearing that up. It confused me abit. :)
[05:07] <g-nome> XiXaQ: ok so how? i'm a big newbie with wine as inever used it
[05:07] <ych> BlueEagle: hmm is it possible that it installed grub on my existing win boot partition?
[05:07] <bit_doidao> XiXaQ, huashuahsas, owk!
[05:07] <forevertheuni> hi gnomes's ubuntu have a autorun cd capability like kde 3.5?
[05:07] <ych> BlueEagle: so i have to boot from my win disk, and not my linux disk?
[05:07] <BlueEagle> ych: That is what it should have done but it appears that it didn't.
[05:07] <eyequeue> che, ubuntu doesn't use grub.conf
[05:08] <BlueEagle> ych: First off. Tell me about your harddisks. How are they set up and where did you install linux?
[05:08] <forevertheuni> if I put a video dvd in cd tray will it open the dvd player automatically?
[05:08] <XiXaQ> g-nome: download the Desktop CD Image and burn it to a CD. Reboot with the cd in the drive. Ubuntu will boot directly from the cd-rom. You don't have to do anything with your harddrives.
[05:08] <che> eyequeue: what does ubuntu use then
[05:08] <bit_doidao> forevertheuni, yes
[05:08] <XiXaQ> g-nome: obviously, installing Ubuntu will make it run alot faster.
[05:08] <shawnr_> !flash
[05:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:08] <bit_doidao> forevertheuni, also if you insert an ipod, digital camera...
[05:08] <ych> BlueEagle: hmm no, maybe it did, I'm trying to boot from 2ndary slave right now, which is where i installed linux, but maybe i should boot from primary master, where win is on
[05:09] <g-nome> XiXaQ: ah, no i HAVE ubuntu installed , but not google talk
[05:09] <id10t> hi all... whats the iptables command to allow all UDP traffic?
[05:09] <eyequeue> che, menu.lst
[05:09] <ych> BlueEagle: ok, that works, so how to i boot my windows again?
[05:09] <BlueEagle> ych: There should be an option in the boot menu.
[05:09] <forevertheuni> bit_doidao, ok it's just..my grandfather called me in the morning asking why didn't he could play a dvd :/....probably he inserted the dvd  upside down :D
[05:09] <forevertheuni> ehehe
[05:09] <XiXaQ> g-nome: ah, I see.. :) Have you installed WINE?
[05:09] <ych> ok i'll reboot
[05:09] <BlueEagle> ych: It should be at the bottom.
[05:09] <Ng> id10t: -p udp -j ALLOW
[05:09] <id10t> Ng, many thanks...
[05:10] <g-nome> XiXaQ: no, but i will i guess, to try google talk on it
[05:10] <wheels3572> What does this Error Mean:  Failed to run time-admin
[05:10] <wheels3572> The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[05:10] <Ng> id10t: you either need to -A that to a table, or insert it above whatever is blocking UDP
[05:10] <bit_doidao> forevertheuni, show him the totem programa. put an icon at the desktop
[05:10] <id10t> Ng, well, i'm not doing anything with iptables at all, but something is blocking udp connections from localhost to localhost...
[05:10] <BlueEagle> wheels3572: It means that the user that is attempting to run time-admin using sudo is not allowed to use sudo.
[05:10] <XiXaQ> g-nome: right. And don't forget; Using GAIM, you'll be able to chat with Google Talk users.
[05:11] <g-nome> XiXaQ: but speec?
[05:11] <g-nome> h
[05:11] <wheels3572> BlueEagle, Only one problem with that is I am the Admin lol.
[05:11] <ych> BlueEagle: oh cool thanks, i never noticed that screen before, it just kinda blows by
[05:11] <BlueEagle> ych: :)
[05:11] <bit_doidao> XiXaQ, if you want talk voice in googletalk, try the tapioca
[05:11] <BlueEagle> wheels3572: I see. How do you attempt to start time-admin then?
[05:11] <shawnr_> Can someone help me fix my flash issue? i have sound but its way out of sync.
[05:11] <bit_doidao> XiXaQ, i dont know if gaim already have support to it
[05:11] <wheels3572> I am in Xubuntu and clicking on Time and Date
[05:12] <BlueEagle> wheels3572: I see. Hang on. Let me reboot to xubuntu and please join #xubuntu for support on that.
[05:13] <HeXiOn> hello
[05:13] <Kimppa> Hi. Does anyone know how to install a wireless moues (logitech) on dapper? I found a few guides for mouses plugged into USB, but this is a PS/2
[05:13] <zanpakuto> anyone using xen here?
[05:13] <HeXiOn> is there any command to send a key to a X aplication?? (from a terminal)
[05:14] <beesandflowers> ok. i have arrived at the moment of installation where i require some help. now the partition manager shows me a couple of partitions that i have prepared
[05:14] <forevertheuni> bit_doidao, yes probably I'll do that
[05:14] <flasher> i'm following the instruction #2 on http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1343209&postcount=2 and tried to install gsfonts-x11, but it doesn't seem to be in repository. Can you help me install it, please?
[05:14] <POVaddct> HeXiOn: xcuckoo i guess
[05:14] <forevertheuni> bit_doidao, brasileiro?
[05:14] <xst> I have an ssh/rsync question: Normally I will not allow root login through ssh but in a backup script I need rsync to login as root automatically through some "authorized_keys" stuff or similar. How can I permit rsync on my specific host access but deny root login from all others?
[05:14] <VincentMX> hi
[05:14] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: thank you, going to get more info about that
[05:14] <Tarandus> !firewall
[05:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[05:14] <bit_doidao> forevertheuni, sure! Brasileirssimo :)
[05:15] <forevertheuni> bit_doidao, :/ ok :D
[05:15] <ubunewb> what is the package that allows GUI control of menu/programs items in Ubuntu?
[05:15] <ubunewb> i was told it was alacarte but installing that produced nothing useful
[05:15] <forevertheuni> well tnx bye
[05:15] <POVaddct> HeXiOn: no xcuckoo is a clock... hmm, but the name was something similar
[05:16] <waspius> hello..i want to compile a packaan error..can someone help?ge and i have downloaded build-essential and some other packages but i get
[05:16] <KenSentMe> ubunewb: go to Applications, Accessoires, Alacarte
[05:16] <i3dIn> xst: have you tried using rsyncd.conf?
[05:16] <ubunewb> I don't have that sorry, I did not install using the Desktop ISO
[05:16] <bit_doidao> Ubugtu, or right click in applications > edit menus
[05:16] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: I was going to tell you that, it's a clock xDD
[05:16] <KenSentMe> ubunewb: do you use gnome?
[05:16] <bit_doidao> ubunewb,  right click in applications > edit menus
[05:17] <beesandflowers> i have now 4 partitions on my disk (ntfs, ext3 5gb, ext3 18gb and linux-swap @ 1gb) and i suppose i must click on the 5gb partition to start the installation?
[05:17] <ubunewb> KenSentMe: it is icewm and gdm so that should be gnome right?
[05:17] <BlueEagle> wheels3572: Hmm.. when I double click the clock I get nothing.
[05:17] <flasher> !info gsfonts-x11
[05:17] <ubotu> gsfonts-x11: Make Ghostscript fonts available to X11. In component main, is optional. Version 0.17ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 9 kB, installed size 116 kB
[05:17] <bit_doidao> ubunewb, no. alacarte == menu editor for *gnome*
[05:17] <Orasis1> Has anyone experienced this in XMMS? - It sounds like your MP3 is being slowed down, every once in a while?
[05:17] <VincentMX> i'm booting from the kubuntu livecd, but i dont have any sound. and restarting the soundsystem or switching to alsa or oss dont really make any difference
[05:18] <flasher> i tried installing gsfonts-x11, but it seems like i Can't. help, any kind person.
[05:18] <HeXiOn> POVaddct, do u remember any example of use of that program? it can be useful to find the name
[05:18] <ych> ok, how do i allow remote connections to my machine?
[05:18] <Orasis1> But it only does it with classical music for some reason, rap rock techno etc - do not seem to be affected
[05:18] <ubunewb> hmm... ok, guess I will just have to install gnome instead
[05:18] <BluDragon> hiya all.  I am trying to mount a NTFS partition using Fuse.  Works fine using ntfsmount, but when I try to add it to fstab, and run 'mount -a' I get an unknown file system error.  Can someone help please?
[05:18] <VincentMX> ych: gui?
[05:18] <bit_doidao> ubunewb, or look for icewm related info ;)
[05:18] <ych> VincentMX: just in a command promt
[05:18] <POVaddct> HeXiOn: xvkbd can do that
[05:18] <waspius> can anyone help
[05:19] <bit_doidao> ubunewb, try #icewm
[05:19] <VincentMX> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[05:19] <hyperactivecrond> waspius: what is your problem?
[05:19] <VincentMX> should do it
[05:19] <bit_doidao> wasauce, dont ask for asking. just ask :)
[05:19] <ych> thanks
[05:19] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: isn't that a graphical keyboard?
[05:19] <bit_doidao> waspius, dont ask for asking. just ask :). oops
[05:19] <shawnr_> How do you create templates for new documents in natilus?
[05:20] <waspius> VincentMX: i want to compile a package so i can install it..so i get the error
[05:20] <waspius> king for libxml - version >= 2.0.0... no
[05:20] <waspius> *** The xml2-config script installed by LIBXML could not be found
[05:20] <waspius> *** If libxml was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
[05:20] <waspius> *** your path, or set the XML2_CONFIG environment variable to the
[05:20] <waspius> *** full path to xml2-config.
[05:20] <waspius> configure: error: libxml2 must be installed.
[05:20] <POVaddct> HeXiOn: it can also run from command line sending contents of a file to a specified X app
[05:20] <bit_doidao> waspius, dont paste here. use our paste bin
[05:20] <waspius> sorry but i dont remeber the page where you paste big parts
[05:20] <godzirra> torpedo|dog: oh.. I dont really use x... lol How do I upgrade?  I'm pretty suire I'm running an older version
[05:20] <Ambimom> Does anyone know if Pan supports nzb files?
[05:20] <KenSentMe> !paste > waspius
[05:20] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: ok, I'll read the manual. Thank you! :)
[05:20] <VincentMX> waspius: use pastebin
[05:20] <torpedo|dog> godzirra: Oh, okay.
[05:20] <bit_doidao> waspius, look the topic
[05:20] <waspius> ok thanx
[05:21] <VincentMX> i dont know anything about compiling btw
[05:21] <VincentMX> i do, bueverytime i try, something goes wrong
[05:21] <hyperactivecrond> VincentMX: what are you trying to compile?
[05:21] <waspius> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20670
[05:21] <waspius> but i have installed the file
[05:21] <bit_doidao> VincentMX, i first compiled php5 last week. it was simple...
[05:21] <BluDragon> Can someone help me with a problem I am having with fuse? (mounting an NTFS partition)
[05:21] <hyperactivecrond> !ntfs > BluDragon
[05:22] <VincentMX> hyperactivecrond: im not trying to compile, waspius is
[05:22] <hyperactivecrond> waspius: did you install libxml2?
[05:22] <torpedo|dog> godzirra: to figure out whether you're running Breezy or Dapper, 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list' and tell me whether you see a breezy or dapper anywhere.
[05:22] <waspius> hyperactivecrond: yes
[05:22] <bit_doidao> VincentMX, well, anyway, you should try to compile something now :P
[05:23] <GraveRaven> doesnt Ubuntu support my Radeon X800XL ? I cant install because of the X server
[05:23] <godzirra> hoary...
[05:23] <torpedo|dog> :O
[05:23] <godzirra> I'm guessing thats old ;)
[05:23] <beesandflowers> ups: installer crashed :-( had this before
[05:23] <jclark4_> hey
[05:23] <bit_doidao> godzirra, hoary is... dapper is much better now
[05:23] <godzirra> lol
[05:23] <jclark4_> xgl help?
[05:24] <VincentMX> GraveRaven: why even use X11? dont a command line work fine?
[05:24] <VincentMX> there are ati drivers btw
[05:24] <VincentMX> !ati
[05:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:24] <waspius> i want to install valknut and i have downloaded the source and i want to compile it but i get that error
[05:24] <godzirra> bit_doidao: so how do I upgrade?
[05:24] <torpedo|dog> godzirra: Do you want to upgrade your entire OS or just MySQL?
[05:24] <godzirra> the entire os is fine, but mysql is thje most important at the moment
[05:24] <VincentMX> !ati > GraveRaven
[05:24] <GraveRaven> VincentMX: I want a interface.. I'm kinda new to Linux.. and I cant even install it because of it
[05:24] <bit_doidao> godzirra, from hoary to dapper, a better deal is to reinstall from scratch
[05:25] <godzirra> Thats not an option right now.
[05:25] <Ng> godzirra: you'd need to do hoary->breezy and then breezy->dapper
[05:25] <VincentMX> GraveRaven: check your xchat window
[05:25] <Ng> I don't think hoary->dapper is a good plan
[05:25] <godzirra> I'm cool with doing that.  But how do I do that?
[05:25] <airwind> Hi! I just installed Ubuntu for the first time. My system is a dual-boot system, with Ubuntu sharing it with WinXP. It is a P-3, 1Ghz, 128MB RAM system. I see that ubuntu is very, very slow when compared to WinXP. Any ideas why?
[05:25] <Ng> !upgrade > godzirra
[05:25] <bit_doidao> godzirra, i dont know if it will work. but the correct way is to jump from hoary do breezy and then to dapper
[05:25] <godzirra> Thanks.
[05:25] <godzirra> I'll go read.
[05:25] <bit_doidao> godzirra, it will be a lot of downloads :P
[05:25] <torpedo|dog> godzirra: I think there's a package mysql-server-5.0m but not sure.
[05:26] <torpedo|dog> godzirra: and lose that 'm' at the end ;)
[05:26] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: errors when compiling it.. I'll have to find another client :(
[05:26] <VincentMX> GraveRaven: type !ati
[05:26] <lostinc> I was wondering if I compiled programs for the i686 a sempron would they perform faster then the i386 or i486 packages that you get through synaptic?
[05:26] <pequatre> airwind, 128MB is a bit too low for ubuntu
[05:26] <GraveRaven> VincentMX: ye I saw that
[05:26] <POVaddct> HeXiOn: which error?
[05:26] <VincentMX> ok
[05:26] <godzirra> I'll take a look
[05:26] <godzirra> thanks guys
[05:26] <DanC> is there a gnome tool for managing lvm stuff?
[05:26] <BluDragon> hyperactivecrond - I have followed the info on the page from !fuse, and am still getting an error when I mount it using fstab
[05:26] <bit_doidao> godzirra, be our guest
[05:26] <GraveRaven> VincentMX: but I cant install the drivers if I cant even install the OS
[05:27] <godzirra> uhh
[05:27] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: mmm.. I think I have to install xaw
[05:27] <godzirra> the breeze upgrade page has nothing on it
[05:27] <pequatre> lostinc, yes
[05:27] <godzirra> breezy
[05:27] <penguin42> lostinc: Maybe a little - but I doubt there would be much in it
[05:27] <airwind> I thought linux works well with a just 128MB. BTW, when WinXP monster works ok, why not Ubuntu?
[05:27] <neenaoffline> anyoone know how to run a command everytime xscreensaver fires up
[05:27] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: the first 6 errors complain about that
[05:27] <neenaoffline> !xscreensaver
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xscreensaver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <lostinc> So you dont think there would be a signifigant gain then?
[05:27] <POVaddct> HeXiOn: you need the header files for libXaW
[05:27] <neenaoffline> ubotu:
[05:27] <pequatre> airwind, linux, but ubuntu uses gnome which uses lots of ram. Try installing xfce or xubuntu
[05:27] <POVaddct> HeXiOn: should be called libxaw-dev or something
[05:28] <neenaoffline> !motu
[05:28] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[05:28] <godzirra> Ng: Any ideas where else to read on how to upgrade from hoary to breezy?  That page the bot gave me was blank.
[05:28] <ubunewb> does xfce has an easy inbuilt menu editor?
[05:28] <pequatre> lostinc, some people say so. try with one app and you'll see by yourself
[05:28] <GraveRaven> VincentMX: right?
[05:28] <Spy_> Hey my apache doesn't want to read .htpasswd and .htaccess files.. is there any switch in apache to enable this?
[05:28] <pequatre> ubunewb, mousepad
[05:28] <POVaddct> HeXiOn: i also had a linker error about missing libxaw3d. i changed the linker call to link libxaw instead.
[05:28] <neenaoffline> airwind: I'm on Xubuntu with 64 MB RAM and 450Mhz P3 OC'ed to 500Mhz
[05:28] <lostinc> I should. I am just wondering if I am a good judge or not
[05:28] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: libxaw-dev
[05:28] <airwind> pequatre: how do I install these?
[05:29] <ubunewb> thanks, peq, guess I'll try xfce instead of gnome since I'm on an old machine
[05:29] <godzirra> Spy_: yes there is, but I don't know what it is offhand.  I usually ask in #apache
[05:29] <lecaros> hi all
[05:29] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: yes, I removed the line in Imakefile.. no need for xaw3d
[05:29] <lostinc> How much more RAM does GNOME use over XFCE?
[05:29] <lecaros> anyone using zabbix currently?
[05:29] <godzirra> So can anyone tell me how to upgrade from Hoary to Breezy?  The bot can't.
[05:29] <penguin42> zabbix?
[05:29] <xst> Can anyone tell me what is wrong with this syntax? rsync -n -a -R --delete root@myserverhost:/foo /my/destination/dir
[05:29] <neenaoffline> lostinc: almost twice , well , it works almost 4 times slower
[05:30] <Ng> godzirra: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade
[05:30] <sproingie> xst: you probably want -e ssh
[05:30] <lostinc> neenaoffline gnome works four times slower?
[05:30] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: /usr/bin/ld: no se puede encontrar -lXaw3d
[05:30] <VincentMX> HeXiOn: well, XFCE can run on 32MB
[05:30] <waspius> does anyone use guarddog?
[05:30] <airwind> neenaoffline: how did you install xubuntu?
[05:31] <VincentMX> HeXiOn: and gnome requires 128
[05:31] <sproingie> airwind: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:31] <shrift> has anyone noticed in Dapper, that when unlocking the screensaver, we now need to "wake it up" before typing our password? Previously I could just type my password, and it would grab it all. Anyone?
[05:31] <VincentMX> as does kde
[05:31] <hume> waspius, yes
[05:31] <POVaddct> HeXiOn: change to -lXaw
[05:31] <neenaoffline> airwind: www.xubuntu.org
[05:31] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: ok
[05:31] <lostinc> Wig a gig of ram in my laptop does it matter? (128 shared video)
[05:32] <airwind> Ok, tell me, is it obsolutely impossible to improve the performance of my 128MB RAM machine with gnome on? I tried use_dma on for my HD, and also increased SWAP, not big change. Any more ideas?
[05:32] <gerhard> I need to install ATI drivers for Radeon X200. is there a special chan for it or can you tell me how to? I didnt find anything on the ATI website
[05:33] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: I changed it but still complains...
[05:33] <pequatre> airwind, there's a script called "faster-dapper" on the web but i dunno what it's worth
[05:33] <waspius> who uses a firewall in here?
[05:33] <POVaddct> HeXiOn: where did you change it?
[05:33] <airwind> peq: Thanks, I shall see what that is...
[05:33] <HeXiOn> at Imakefile
[05:33] <waspius> i have downloaded guarddog but i have a problem setting it up
[05:33] <sproingie> airwind: turn off ALL eye candy like transparencies.  128 megs, sadly, is not enough for a modern linux desktop
[05:34] <vaz> gerhard: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[05:34] <gary[ubuntu] > !ati > gerhard
[05:34] <gerhard> thanks
[05:34] <POVaddct> HeXiOn: i just copied the linker call from the shell and edited in on the command line
[05:34] <neenaoffline> airwind: If you already have ubuntu installed then , what sproingie said
[05:34] <dylan_> Why is it that after I'm done recording an audio track in Audacity, then hit the record button again after taking a break in Audacity, the next track makes my voice sound really really low?
[05:34] <sproingie> was reading on the mono blogs something about how insanely bloated some gnome apps just from linking in libs they never actually use
[05:34] <beesandflowers> can anybody tell me how i can boot the ubuntu 6.06 cd so that installation starts immediately? i have a problem using the installation from the live cd. performance is non-existant. thank you!
[05:35] <sproingie> gnome's libs seem to be suckers for spurious allocation
[05:35] <sproingie> something like dozens of duplicates of the same icon cache
[05:35] <neenaoffline> airwind: why do you need GNOME so badly ?
[05:35] <POVaddct> HeXiOn: so the final gcc line was: gcc -m32 -o xvkbd -g -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing      -L/usr/X11R6/lib   xvkbd.o findwidget.o    -lXaw -lXmu -lXt -lSM -lICE -lXpm -lXext -lX11 -lXtst
[05:35] <HeXiOn> now the error is /usr/bin/ld: no se puede encontrar -lXaw
[05:35] <vaz> can someone help me with how to use ifconfig to start my wifi network
[05:35] <mlehrer> last time i rebooted, the sound stopped working, alsamixer says no devices - what is the easiest way to reconfigure the sound driver?
[05:35] <penguin42> sproingie: There is also a set of slides in Ottawa Linux Symposium entitled something like '101 things not to do in user space' which shows some silly things that happen
[05:35] <mlehrer> it is a sound blaster audigy something
[05:35] <shrift> beesandflowers you cannot immedieately install from the "live cd" you need to download another cd the "alternate install" cd
[05:35] <vaz> i said ifup eth1
[05:35] <vaz> but its already configured
[05:36] <HeXiOn> maybe I need more than the headers...
[05:36] <sproingie> penguin42: my only solace is knowing windows does similarly stupid things
[05:36] <HeXiOn> I'll try
[05:36] <beesandflowers> shrift: thank you. i will check the ubuntu.com
[05:36] <penguin42> Heartsbane: Try   apt-get install libxaw6-dev
[05:36] <shawnr_> can anyone help me fix my sound in flash?
[05:36] <penguin42> sproingie: Maybe, but I've got a feeling Gnome is getting worse quicker
[05:36] <POVaddct> penguin42: you mean HeXiOn
[05:36] <vaz> is therer a way to switch between eth0 and eth1
[05:36] <gerhard> vaz, how do I launch easy ubuntu
[05:36] <penguin42> HeXi0n: Try   apt-get install libxaw6-dev
[05:36] <ubuntu__> afternoon all
[05:36] <penguin42> POVaddct: Thanks - damn autocomplete :-)
[05:36] <shrift> beesandflowers: yeah, you should be able to find what you need from this page: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[05:37] <noxxik> Hello
[05:37] <gerhard> hi
[05:37] <HeXiOn> why libxaw6 and not libxaw7?
[05:37] <sproingie> penguin42: agreed, but perhaps it has to get to a pain point before the devs change their ways
[05:37] <shawnr_> sound in flash is out of sync anyway to fix this?
[05:37] <noxxik> Anyone who knows something about gfxboot-coding?
[05:37] <penguin42> HeXi0n: Oops my mistake, yes 7 - but you need the -dev package
[05:37] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: still same error :|
[05:37] <sproingie> penguin42: for kde it was mico, which was so awful that they ditched corba outright
[05:37] <ubuntu__> i've installed ubuntu  via the livecd to the slave ide drive what would be the easiest way to install a bootloader without killing windows on the primary drive
[05:37] <u221e> Is there a way to install Ubuntu Server if I just have the Ubuntu desktop version on CD?
[05:38] <shrift> I have the same problem with flash sound as shawnr_ anyone have ideas about that?
[05:38] <HeXiOn> POVaddct:complains about /usr/bin/ld
[05:38] <noxxik> I?m want to remove the resolution menu from gfxboot but can?t figured it out?
[05:38] <penguin42> sproingie: Nod; IMHO the Gnome guys spent too much time rubbishing KDE for using C++ and how that would make stuff slow
[05:38] <POVaddct> HeXiOn: and what if you just apt-get install xvkbd ?
[05:38] <mlehrer> in Ubuntu how do i get the proper sound driver installed
[05:39] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: I haven't it at my repositories
[05:39] <gerhard> vaz, I understand
[05:39] <mlehrer> e.g. red hat has "sndconfig" to determine the proper driver
[05:39] <shrift> u221e: unfortunately you will need to download the "server install CD" to install just the server on a fresh install.
[05:39] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: it's the first I probed, and in the web there's only sources
[05:39] <IRCMonkeyX> hi , could you suggest me a program to change my ip? like hideip , steganos proxy etc ?
[05:39] <penguin42> Does anyone know anything about what happens before Ubuntu releases a new release - what is the release process? Is there a specific test set that gets run? Does anyone look at memory usage?
[05:39] <penguin42> (Or failing that, where to ask?)
[05:39] <noxxik> gerhard: Do you know something about it?
[05:39] <shrift> u221e: the desktop CD has a preset install image, it will install that, there is no way to tweak that until it is installed. however, you can play around more with the "server install CD" and the "alternate install CD" sounds like youw ant eh server install CD.
[05:39] <Ng> penguin42: check the wiki, there's probably a fair bit in there
[05:40] <POVaddct> HeXiOn: hmmm. debian has it. i wonder why ubuntu does not have it.
[05:40] <dylan_> Why is it that when I record an audio track in Audacity, then hit stop to record another track after taking a break, the next track makes my voice sound really low?
[05:40] <gerhard> noxxik, about what? i dindt read the chan so far
[05:40] <Kyral_Laptop> penguin42: we have stable snapshots of the tree. (In Dapper they were called Flights
[05:40] <sproingie> penguin42: i would imagine that unless there was a performance group with specific must-pass criteria, it's just "whatever runs, ships"
[05:40] <noxxik> gerhard: Howto remove things in gfxboot
[05:40] <Kyral_Laptop> penguin42: eventually we have a "Release Canditate"
[05:40] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: then I'll search the .deb package better :)
[05:40] <shrift> penguin42: yes, we have snapshots leading up to the release, for Edgy I believe they are being called "knots"
[05:40] <penguin42> Kyral_Laptop: Yeh but I mean actual tests that are made sure to be run on a RC before it goes out rather than just hoping lots of people test it
[05:40] <Kyral_Laptop> sproingie: actually sabdfl has said that Edgy will most likely be less stable then Dapper
[05:40] <eyequeue> Kyral_Laptop, Knot 1 is out, for Edgy :)
[05:40] <gerhard> noxxik, I think I dont know what gfxboot is, so...
[05:41] <Kyral_Laptop> eyequeue: I run Arch :P I'm just good enough with Linux to keep helping here :P
[05:41] <sproingie> Kyral_Laptop: good, considering dapper is supposed to be supported for a while, it's nice to see more radical changes in the bleeding edge
[05:41] <shrift> penguin42: i don't know that the developers have test PCs available to them. they just use what they have, and rely on the community for feedback.
[05:41] <eyequeue> Kyral_Laptop, i'm not really sure how the "flight" or "knot" name is chosen myself
[05:41] <IRCMonkeyX> hi , could you suggest me a program to change my ip? like hideip , steganos proxy etc ?
[05:41] <beesandflowers> 2,2 MB/s azureus download speed of ubuntu alternate! i luve linux!
[05:41] <penguin42> sproingie: Hence the reason I'm asking - ideally you would have a set of easy run tests prior to release and something would scream 'its using 3T of RAM'
[05:42] <sproingie> Kyral_Laptop: i guess we'll see what long term support really means after edgy, of course
[05:42] <u221e> shrift... I don't want to download another 500MB and burn it to CD
[05:42] <hyperactivecrond> sup kyral
[05:42] <Kyral_Laptop> sproingie: in the email that "announced" the goals for Edgy he said that since Dapper was rock solid, he is giving the devs cart blance for Edgy
[05:42] <square> anyone?
[05:42] <penguin42> shrift: IMHO that isn't actually good enough
[05:42] <eyequeue> sproingie, 3 years on the desktop, 5 years on the server, they say
[05:42] <Kyral_Laptop> sproingie: so basically Edgy is the Devs playground
[05:42] <sproingie> penguin42: it's hard to quantify, but i would probably have a performance audit team that at least compared what was packaged with comparable alternatives to see if there was a radical difference
[05:42] <Kyral_Laptop> sproingie: akin to Debian Testing (if Dapper is Debian Stable)
[05:42] <POVaddct> HeXiOn: apt-cache show xvkbd tells me it is in dapper universe
[05:42] <sproingie> Kyral_Laptop: it is until it's released anyway
[05:42] <hume> anyone knows about the palm sync problem with kernel 2.6.15? My palm is not recognized at all bu the computer (usb connection)
[05:43] <IRCMonkeyX> people, noone uses ip changer ?
[05:43] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: found here :)  http://ftp.gva.es/mirror/debian/pool/main/x/xvkbd/xvkbd_2.7a-3.1_i386.deb
[05:43] <Kyral_Laptop> sproingie: in general
[05:43] <penguin42> sproingie: Nod, but a first step would be to have an easy to run set of tests that spit out some figures
[05:43] <duoxing> hello all
[05:43] <square> i've installed ubuntu  via the livecd to the slave ide drive what would be the easiest way to install a bootloader without killing windows on the primary drive
[05:43] <POVaddct> HeXiOn: no do not mix debian pkgs with ubuntu ones
[05:43] <hyperactivecrond> square: install grub
[05:43] <sproingie> Kyral_Laptop: let's hope it doesn't go the linux kernel route and become a playground forever with no more stable releases forthcoming
[05:43] <HeXiOn> apt-cache don't shows anything.. strange, there's no package in ubuntu (I have multiverse and universe)
[05:43] <POVaddct> HeXiOn: use the ubuntu repo
[05:43] <airwind> neenaoffline: Not that I want gnome badly, just installed ubuntu off-the-shelf :-)
[05:43] <shrift> u221e: I agree that sucks. sorry man. But that is the nature of the desktop CD. It just isntalls the image that it is running. You cannot edit it in that situation. Honestly, the Ubuntu installer doesn't offer a lot of control over what is installed. If you want more control, you may want to try Debian.
[05:43] <hyperactivecrond> square: winxp has no problem with grub
[05:43] <dUICE> i have set up a server now i want to use my windows to look at my linux shares, but it ask's me for a username and password, in wht format do i place the username in E.G. server\username or just username
[05:43] <Kyral_Laptop> sproingie: Whats wrong with the LK :P
[05:44] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: but I made an apt-cache search and doesn't show anything
[05:44] <square> hyperactivecrond: why didnt the ubuntu installer install grub?
[05:44] <neenaoffline> airwind: okay :)
[05:44] <penguin42> So where do things like release testing get discussed?
[05:44] <POVaddct> HeXiOn: then you don't have universe in your sources.list
[05:44] <sproingie> penguin42: those tests exist already, you can run processes with accounting and other forms of instrumentation.  i'd probably equip the team with valgrind or something, but there's more than one way...
[05:44] <airwind> I am actually looking at installing xubuntu now.
[05:44] <HeXiOn> xvkbd - software virtual keyboard for X11
[05:44] <sproingie> Kyral_Laptop: The Curious Case of the Missing Version 2.7
[05:44] <plastic> Hi, i installed cvoicecontrol to my box sucsessfuly, but when i run microphone_config i get this error 'Error opening terminal: xterm.' -hmmzz.. But the problem is that that i have xterm working on my box properly.. Any ideas?
[05:44] <neenaoffline> airwind: smart move
[05:45] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: wait, I had writen bad first time, it found that
[05:45] <hyperactivecrond> square: do you have an XFS partition for /?
[05:45] <penguin42> sproingie: Tools aren't the same thing as tests; some prebuilt scripts that use those tests and spit out some bottom line numbers that can be compared are better
[05:45] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: but cannot install with apt-get install
[05:45] <airwind> thanks! but, that's all I can think off with this 128MB ram, and no wanting for an upgrade now.
[05:45] <sproingie> penguin42: valgrind can be made to spit out stats after a run
[05:45] <POVaddct> HeXiOn: why? which error message?
[05:45] <brush01uk> Greetings everyone , 2nd day of useing Unbuntu, where to start/begin ?
[05:46] <flasher> i've installed msttcorefonts, yet i still can't see the text in flash. help
[05:46] <HeXiOn> sudo apt-cache search xvkbd
[05:46] <HeXiOn> xvkbd - software virtual keyboard for X11
[05:46] <hyperactivecrond> brush01uk: use it.
[05:46] <duoxing> ????????????
[05:46] <neenaoffline> anyoone know how to run a command everytime xscreensaver fires up
[05:46] <sproingie> penguin42: personally i'd use dtrace but there's no real equivalent for linux yet.  tho for simple stuff like this, kprobes would probably suffice
[05:46] <hyperactivecrond> duoxing: lay off the ?s
[05:46] <square> hyperactivecrond: i dont know.. dont think so
[05:46] <HeXiOn> :|
[05:46] <penguin42> sproingie: Yeh, but someone needs to put a set together - and define the set of figures to watch - it's not about tools, it is about a defined set of uses for them
[05:46] <jbroome> brush01uk: just use it like you'd normally use win and see if you have any questions
[05:46] <shrift> brush01uk: I would reccomend you go over to channel #ubuntu-nun It is a new channel created just to help new users get acquainted.
[05:46] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: you'll kill me... It was already installed!!! LOL!!!!
[05:46] <square> hyperactivecrond: the primary drive is sata and the secondary (where ubuntu is) is ide
[05:46] <shrift> brush01uk: also, welcome!
[05:46] <sproingie> penguin42: that's why there should be a team with that as their only job
[05:46] <POVaddct> HeXiOn: muhahahaha
[05:46] <plastic> Hi, i installed cvoicecontrol to my box sucsessfuly, but when i run microphone_config i get this error 'Error opening terminal: xterm.' -hmmzz.. But the problem is that that i have xterm working on my box properly.. Any ideas?
[05:46] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: I'm so blind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:46] <brush01uk> thankyou  ,true, trying to forget windows :-)
[05:46] <Spy_> hey can sum1 help me mount a folder to another folder please...
[05:47] <duoxing> nothing
[05:47] <blind> I'm so HeXiOn
[05:47] <HeXiOn> lol!!!
[05:47] <dUICE> so how do i connected onto a samba server?
[05:47] <POVaddct> hehehe
[05:47] <sproingie> penguin42: the nice thing about the comparison approach is that it doesn't much matter what instrumentation tools you use, since your results are always relative
[05:47] <HeXiOn> we'll after this I think I better come back crying to windows world xDDD
[05:47] <penguin42> sproingie: That would be nice; but I'm thinking if there is a test structure that already exists then letting people add tests to that
[05:48] <sproingie> penguin42: e.g. metacity might be ok to take a couple megs more than fluxbox, but if it takes 20 more, then there's something wrong
[05:48] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: thanks a lot for your help ;)
[05:48] <brush01uk> ok, shrift   Thankyou
[05:48] <penguin42> sproingie: Or more importantly if it goes up 20 between release n and release n+1
[05:48] <POVaddct> HeXiOn: no problem
[05:48] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: I go and bury myself for a while :)
[05:48] <shrift> brush01uk: no problem... I'm over there too... it's a nice quiet environment over there... this is a bit crowded.
[05:48] <HeXiOn> bye
[05:49] <penguin42> sproingie: So my real question is who to ask about this stuff?
[05:49] <brush01uk> no more windows, plenty of docs to read
[05:50] <brush01uk> ok. i will pop in in a moment, on the phone
[05:50] <sproingie> penguin42: #ubuntu-dev possibly, assuming there's a reasonably detailed proposal behind it
[05:50] <sproingie> penguin42: possibly the dev mailing lists, whatever those are
[05:51] <penguin42> sproingie: Hmm I might try #ubuntu-dev first, my first question is what already exists
[05:51] <sproingie> penguin42: probably best to research it some, there might even be a performance group already.  far as i know tho, it's up to each individual group
[05:51] <flasher> how can i see text in flash?
[05:52] <godzirra> I keep getting errors from perl warning that "Setting locale has failed"
[05:52] <trygg> What do i have to apt-get to have gtk+-2.6 ?
[05:52] <sproingie> penguin42: as for me, i've sort of settled into "good enough" ... i don't even customize my kernel these days
[05:52] <jdong|coreduo> is there any way for pbuilder/dpkg-buildpackage to parallel jobs on a SMP box?
[05:52] <jdong|coreduo> i.e. execute make with -j3
[05:52] <penguin42> sproingie: Indeed - Ubuntu kernel seems pretty decent, but I'd love some good tests
[05:52] <shrift> penguin42: this may be something related to what you are looking for: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing
[05:52] <neenaoffline> trygg: apt-cache search gtk+-2.6
[05:53] <penguin42> shrift: Ah - thanks!
[05:53] <shrift> penguin42: maybe you can at least find someone who would know the answers to your questions.
[05:54] <dUICE> ok tyring to access my own samba shares, its asking for a using name and passowrd, i enter in the account name and password but will not let me in?
[05:54] <trygg> neenaoffline: yeah i know, i cant find it?
[05:54] <sproingie> dUICE: are you accessing it from a windows box?
[05:54] <dUICE> yes
[05:54] <neenaoffline> trygg: maybe it's on edgy repos , ask #ubuntu-moyu
[05:54] <neenaoffline> trygg: maybe it's on edgy repos , ask #ubuntu-motu
[05:54] <sproingie> dUICE: make sure your password encryption settings match
[05:54] <dUICE> done
[05:54] <dUICE> wait wht do u mean match
[05:54] <plastic> Hi, i installed cvoicecontrol to my box sucsessfuly, but when i run microphone_config i get this error 'Error opening terminal: xterm.' -hmmzz.. But the problem is that that i have xterm working on my box properly.. Any ideas?
[05:55] <sproingie> dUICE: simple way is to disable password encryption on the windows side.  for a while that was the only way, i think NTLMv2 might be supported now tho
[05:55] <sproingie> dUICE: it's been at least 6 years since i've done samba or even messed with NTLM, so i'd be the wrong person to ask how
[05:55] <dUICE> thanks anyway
[05:55] <sproingie> dUICE: the short of it being that windows is encrypting the password in a way that samba doesn't understand
[05:56] <sproingie> dUICE: check your samba logs, i think it'll give some detail on the error, something like "NTLMv2 not supported"
[05:57] <gamars> Hi all. I have a short question and I don't really know where to ask. So here it is, if you could point me to the place to look for. I am looking for someone who could help administer a single (so far) server. I am starting a large scale project and don't have the time and or resources to do it myself. PLease let me know :-)
[05:57] <penguin42> shrift: Most of those tests are basic install tests - but still, a starting point
[05:57] <sproingie> dUICE: i also find sniffing the traffic with ethereal is very helpful for diagnosing SMB problems
[05:58] <shrift> penguin42: yeah I didn't think it was quite what you were looking for... however, maybe youc an find a name to email in there. Whoever wrote all that should definitely be able to answer some/point you in the right direction.
[05:58] <penguin42> nod
[05:58] <mpowell> Hi, I'd like to install both the xorg-driver-fglrx and xorg-driver-nvidia at the same time for quad monitor support (xinerama). using apt-get the drivers appear to be mutually exclusive. Is that truely the case?
[05:58] <square> bah, i dont understand why ubuntu never installed grub/lilo into the mbr of the primary drive
[05:58] <square> or at least give me the option
[05:58] <IRCMonkeyX> how to setup proxy ?
[05:58] <sproingie> gamars: more specific, if it's a worthy cause you'll find no end of takers
[05:58] <sproingie> gamars: what's the server for?
[05:59] <IRCMonkeyX>  !proxy
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proxy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <HeXiOn> I got it!!!!!    xvkbd -xsendevent -text f -window gedit
[05:59] <sproingie> gar, late to work, gotta go,,,
[05:59] <mangobot>  HI!!! whe n irun 'dmesg | greps drm", no output comes...
[06:00] <spoon> So, I have a package that is not quite installed right that needs uninstallation
[06:00] <HeXiOn> I can't remember your nick, but thank you very much!! :)
[06:00] <mangobot> does this mean the kernel doesn't recognize my vid card?
[06:00] <gamars> sproingie: The server is for Development use for a potential commercial project. I wish I could say more but I'd have to kill you then ;-). Teh server runs intenssive ORACLE storage and (hopefully soon) massive // mathematical computing...
[06:00] <spoon> I can't apt-get remove it, and I can't apt-get install it...
[06:00] <riaal> My ubuntu computer totaly crashed today =( It wont boot. Stoping on "filesystem check". Message: atform/i82365.0/bus' failedt[] 3436] : wait_for_sysfs: waiting for 'sys/devices/ps.. really need help plz.
[06:00] <kev900> hey everyone, what's the best way to run an mpeg file?  is there a codec I can download for mplayer?
[06:00] <riaal> kev900: vlc
[06:00] <spoon> kev900 try vlc
[06:01] <spoon> automatix is nice...
[06:01] <riaal> kev900: sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:01] <spoon> getautomatix.com
[06:01] <kev900> okay great, thanks, I'll try that now
[06:01] <mangobot>  HI!!! when i run 'dmesg | greps drm", no output comes...what does this mean?
[06:01] <riaal> please, really need help =((
[06:01] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: I finally got it!!!   xvkbd -xsendevent -text f -window gedit
[06:02] <shrift> spoon: try sudo apt-get install -f (for fix broken)
[06:02] <richiefrich> mangobot u do mean  grep and not greps
[06:02] <mindmedic> mangobot: there is no module loaded containing drm in its name
[06:02] <POVaddct> HeXiOn: yeah :)
[06:02] <mangobot> ok....
[06:02] <riaal> over 800 ppl in here, someone must know what to do??
[06:02] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: I'll use with LIRC, to save a button :)
[06:02] <richiefrich> mangobot and also why would outcome back ?
[06:02] <ubunewb> kev:automatix might break your sound instead
[06:02] <mangobot> because my vid card won't accelerate 2d or 3e
[06:02] <mangobot> 3d
[06:02] <HeXiOn> POVaddct: thank you very much! :)
[06:02] <spoon> E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[06:02] <ubunewb> kev: that's what happened when I tried to use it to get mpeg and mp3 playback
[06:02] <richiefrich> mangobot u are grepping the wrong file
[06:02] <mangobot> and i'm trying to fix that
[06:02] <mangobot> ok
[06:02] <HeXiOn> bye
[06:02] <mangobot> so, what should i do?
[06:02] <Stabwound> stupid question, but how to you install a .pcf font correctly?
[06:03] <mpowell> Hi, I'd like to install both the xorg-driver-fglrx and xorg-driver-nvidia at the same time for quad monitor support (xinerama). using apt-get the drivers appear to be mutually exclusive. Is it possible to have both nvidia and ati cards in the same machine?
[06:03] <mindmedic> mangobot: lsmod
[06:03] <spoon> ubunewb, what kind of sound card/sound system were you using?
[06:03] <richiefrich> mangobot  grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:03] <POVaddct> HeXiOn: i prefer apps that run in screen(1). so everything can be remote controlled with ssh (even if it wasn't started in a ssh session)
[06:03] <richiefrich> mangobot  grep WW  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:03] <mangobot> k....
[06:03] <richiefrich> mangobot  grep  drm  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:03] <ubunewb> spoon: laptop, standard intel stuff, pretty straight forward
[06:03] <square> god damn this
[06:03] <kev900> ubunewb: thanks for the advice, I'll hold off on trying automatix then, even though it looks like a cool program (I just google'd it)
[06:03] <mpowell> Automatix worked great here.
[06:03] <IRCMonkeyX> !ip masqudering
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ip masqudering - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <spoon> Stabwound, i know if in nautilus, you enter fonts:/// after clicking go -  location
[06:04] <Thunderpants> automatix worked well for me but ymmv
[06:04] <ubunewb> kev900: check the ubuntu forum, I think I got sound/mpeg/mp3 all to work from one of the faq threads there with all the steps to install alss, filters and vlc
[06:04] <mangobot> richiefrich: so how do i get my vid card working, then?
[06:04] <IRCMonkeyX> no one uses proxy here??
[06:04] <Thunderpants> your mileage may vary
[06:04] <mangobot> i'm pretty sure it's not being recognized...
[06:04] <ubunewb> richiefrich: your mileage might vary
[06:04] <shrift> spoon: have you recently edited your repositories?
[06:04] <spoon> kev900, havent tried it, but there's also easyUbuntu
[06:04] <richiefrich> ubunewb ty
[06:05] <richiefrich> mangobot i need more info please
[06:05] <mangobot> ok
[06:05] <richiefrich> mangobot what card
[06:05] <POVaddct> IRCMonkeyX: ip masquarading one-liner: echo 1 > /proc/sys/ipv4/ip_forward ; iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $public_iface -j MASQUERADE
[06:05] <mangobot> my card is ati rage mobility 2x pm agp rev 2
[06:05] <richiefrich> paste me your xorg.conf
[06:05] <ubunewb> kev: I'm sure automatix worked for most people, but just in case you get screwed like I did :D
[06:05] <mangobot> ok
[06:05] <POVaddct> IRCMonkeyX: ip masquarading one-liner: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ; iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $public_iface -j MASQUERADE
[06:05] <spoon> shrift, I did, to try to install jedit, but I think the one I got to work was the jar, which I installed after unsucessfully installing the .deb I downloaded, and I think I deleted some of the files installed by the .deb in the process
[06:05] <richiefrich> what errors do u see in the log
[06:05] <kev900> what's easyUbuntu?
[06:06] <richiefrich> !easyUbuntu
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easyUbuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:06] <kev900> !easyubuntu
[06:06] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[06:06] <shrift> spoon: can you apt-get remove jedit?
[06:06] <kev900> oh awesome I didn't realize we could do commands like that
[06:06] <IRCMonkeyX> POVaddct: thank you very much, will it change my country ip range ?
[06:06] <Thunderpants> kev900, http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[06:06] <claus> I have got a wireless 54 mb card on my laptop with ubuntu 6.06, and i can't get through to the internet. Can anyone please explain how or link to a site that explains. I've tried googling it for about to hours total, and I can't seem to find a solution.
[06:06] <richiefrich> kev900 thats the opposet of hardubuntu :P
[06:06] <spoon> shrift: i get this error : E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[06:06] <claus> two*
[06:07] <spoon> I have the .deb, but if i try to reinstall it...
[06:07] <kev900> hahah, richie
[06:07] <richiefrich> u like that
[06:07] <richiefrich> i got more
[06:07] <waspius> i have installed guarddog which is a firewall..i have made some configurations but i when enabled i cannot use kopete, i cannot access some webpages ie.hotmail
[06:07] <mangobot> richiefrich: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d20672
[06:07] <richiefrich> mangobot hold please
[06:08] <zish> Hello everyone. I have a perplexing problem regarding Ubuntu Server 6.0.6.1 install on an HP Proliant DL140 (Intel Xeon). A few seconds into "Detecting Hardware to find CD-Rom Drives", my screen goes blue. At this point, the cd-rom drive spins up, but nothing further. I can still switch to a different virtual terminal for about 30 seconds before the machine completely locks up, and the red error LED on the front of the machine comes on. The last dmesg e
[06:08] <spoon> automatix has worked great for me on the 5 desktops I have installed it on...
[06:08] <fileserver> ok i think i need to get samba and linux username database working together is there a command for this (DO U UNDERSTAND)
[06:08] <IRCMonkeyX> POVaddct: it says bad argument ?
[06:09] <shrift> spoon: try this: sudo dpkg --purge jedit
[06:09] <spoon> dpkg: error processing jedit (--purge):
[06:09] <spoon>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[06:09] <spoon>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[06:09] <spoon> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:09] <spoon>  jedit
[06:10] <msoul> hello, can you guys tell me how can I install openssl-devel cause I'm getting this
[06:10] <erUSUL> !paste > spoon
[06:10] <shrift> spoon: ok try reinstalling it.
[06:10] <msoul> apt-get install openssl-devel
[06:10] <msoul> Reading package lists... Done
[06:10] <msoul> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:10] <msoul> E: Couldn't find package openssl-devel
[06:10] <erUSUL> msoul: is libssl-devel
[06:10] <erUSUL> msoul: do not paste here please!!
[06:10] <erUSUL> !paste > msoul
[06:10] <neenaoffline> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8030785497.html
[06:10] <h4ch3r> hello guys
[06:11] <spoon> sorry about hte paste
[06:11] <msoul> oh, sorry for that
[06:11] <spoon> E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[06:11] <h4ch3r> I'm crazy...but don't install this program
[06:11] <h4ch3r> HELP ME
[06:11] <Lynoure> I mapped backspace to my capslock key but the new backspace does not repeat? How can I make it repeat without affecting other keys? (I used xkb not xmodmap)
[06:11] <albacker> `restrictedformat
[06:11] <h4ch3r> http://www.silentcoder.co.za/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=DireqCafe
[06:11] <doraemon81> anyone here has ever face problem with their LCD monitor + ubuntu??
[06:11] <fileserver> dam this im going but to win2k3
[06:11] <msoul> erUSUL: same thing
[06:11] <shrift> spoon: reinstall it with the .deb that you ahve, then try removing it.
[06:11] <msoul> couldn't find package libssl-devel
[06:11] <erUSUL> !sources > msoul
[06:11] <Leng> How can I get Dapper (Desktop) to get its hostname via dhcp?
[06:12] <spoon> shrift, doesn't work,t ried it...
[06:12] <Shimfs> hi
[06:12] <Shimfs> i have just installed ubuntu as my first linux os ever
[06:12] <erUSUL> msoul: libssl-dev ?? do a search with apt-cache search...
[06:12] <msoul> lemme read, brb
[06:12] <TheGateKeeper> msoul: openssl-dev
[06:12] <msoul> TheGateKeeper: I did that
[06:12] <Shimfs> but i am having troublet to get my laptop with ubuntu on it, to get connection
[06:12] <doraemon81> i.e., the behavior ubuntu with LCD monitor is strange. for example, if u didn't shut down ubuntu properly, the next day u turn on ubuntu, the whole LCD monitor will get blank.
[06:12] <Shimfs> my brother have set all the options in the network program from the system line, but i cant get any network
[06:12] <msoul> it's libssl-dev
[06:12] <shrift> shimfs: head to #ubuntu-classroom it is targeted entirely to new users.
[06:13] <Shimfs> ok thanks
[06:13] <riaal> Can someone please help me?? My startup is locking on this: http://www.soundaddict.se/HelpMePlz.jpg
[06:13] <msoul> thanks erUSUL and TheGateKeeper
[06:13] <TheGateKeeper> msoul: ooops libcurl3-openssl-dev
[06:13] <doraemon81> even go to F1, reconfigure xorg won't help. my workaround is to disconnect LCD, connect to an old CRT monitor, shut down properly, reconnect to LCD and turn on power again
[06:13] <Shimfs> it just says there will be a new class in 4 days
[06:13] <beesandflowers> cannot find any relevant help about the following error that is halting my ubuntu adventure: your installatino cdrom couldnt be mounted. of course the cd is in the drive. am i missing an article on the www that tells me what to do now?
[06:13] <doraemon81> then only ubuntu will shown up the display no problem
[06:13] <shrift> there are people in there now that can help you
[06:13] <Shimfs> ok
[06:13] <TheGateKeeper> msoul: you found it :-)
[06:14] <Hoxzer_> TheGateKeeper: HeAR me  BABE
[06:14] <Hoxzer_> ooops
[06:14] <beesandflowers> one solution seems to be changing the cd drive, which seems rather expensive as a guess for my laptop...
[06:14] <riaal> Anyone? what to do about: http://www.soundaddict.se/HelpMePlz.jpg  (its locking up)
[06:14] <Hoxzer_> aargh I keep going off topic while listening Led zeppelin
[06:14] <h4ch3r> they can help me to install this program
[06:14] <h4ch3r> http://www.silentcoder.co.za/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Installation
[06:14] <msoul> TheGateKeeper: yeah it was libssl-dev
[06:14] <msoul> need to find ncurses-devel
[06:15] <msoul> bleh
[06:15] <msoul> ncurses-dev :-)
[06:15] <sethk> beesandflowers, it doesn't give you any etail about the error?
[06:15] <sethk> beesandflowers, detail, that is
[06:15] <fileserver> hwo to open a file under root
[06:15] <Lane> I am having problems connecting to my wireless network. My card appears to be working (eth1), however if I use kwifimanager it either doesnt show any networks or shows my networks and does not let me connect
[06:15] <TheGateKeeper> msoul: it will generally be whatever-dev not -devel or other variants
[06:15] <ymlu> libncurses5-dev
[06:15] <riaal> Why is everyone ignoring me? someone here must know this? its like scandisk error in windows??? =((((
[06:15] <sethk> fileserver, open how, to edit?  the same way as any other file, only preceed with sudo
[06:16] <sethk> riaal, let me look
[06:16] <spoon> dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute old post-removal script: No such file or directory
[06:16] <riaal> sethk: thanks man
[06:16] <riaal> sethk: http://www.soundaddict.se/HelpMePlz.jpg
[06:16] <spoon> wont install or uninstall...
[06:16] <plastic> just srearch in synaptic libncurses..
[06:16] <msoul> TheGateKeeper: I guess I won't forget that now would i? :-)
[06:16] <spoon> I put the whole message in the ubuntu pastebin...
[06:16] <kev900> easyubuntu worked great for playing mpegs, thanks guys
[06:17] <shrift> spoon: ummm where is the pastebin?
[06:17] <sethk> riaal, do what it is telling you.  run e2fsck -b 32768 /dev/hdc1, then run fsck.ext3 /dev/hdc1
[06:17] <h4ch3r> Shimfs:
[06:17] <richiefrich> ok i was helping someoone ?
[06:17] <mangobot> yeah
[06:17] <mangobot> hi!
[06:17] <richiefrich> video ati
[06:17] <h4ch3r> shrift:
[06:17] <spoon> shrift: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:17] <riaal> sethk: how? I can't do anything?
[06:17] <h4ch3r> they can help me to install this program
[06:17] <h4ch3r> http://www.silentcoder.co.za/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Installation
[06:17] <richiefrich> mangobot hi xchat crashed
[06:17] <sethk> riaal, /dev/hdc1 must not be mounted when you do it.
[06:17] <sethk> riaal, oh, boot a live cd
[06:17] <richiefrich> mangobot  what was that pastebin
[06:17] <mangobot> richiefrich: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20672
[06:18] <godzirra> Ng: Occasionally I'm getting this in my error logs now for apache:  /usr/sbin/apache2: relocation error: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libnss_dns.so.2: symbol __res_maybe_init, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[06:18] <sethk> riaal, if you are talking about the error at the end about sysfs, I can only see part of the line
[06:18] <riaal> sethk: omg i dont have a cdrom, im really thinking about trowing the computer out the window
[06:18] <richiefrich> mangobot line 102
[06:18] <sethk> riaal, how did you install?
[06:18] <spoon> shrift, It told me that 3 times, no such file, then said subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[06:18] <riaal> sethk: me2? there is no way to se the hole line =(
[06:19] <shrift> spoon: yeah I'm looking at the pastebin... hmmmmm
[06:19] <richiefrich> mangobot   change to  -->,  fglrx  <-- not  aikt
[06:19] <sethk> riaal, what happens after that partial line?
[06:19] <richiefrich> ati*
[06:19] <riaal> sethk: it has worked perfect for like 4 mounths
[06:19] <shrift> spoon: try this sudo dpkg -r --force-all jedit
[06:19] <Lane> Hello can someone help? I am having problems connecting to my wireless network. My card appears to be working (eth1), however if I use kwifimanager it either doesnt show any networks or shows my networks and does not let me connect
[06:19] <mangobot> ok...
[06:19] <mangobot> i've done that before, but it doesn't do much
[06:19] <richiefrich> mangobot and do u have .. ati-drivers installed?
[06:19] <beesandflowers> sethk: no. i downloaded the alternate cd because i had problems with the live cd installation. there is no further messag next to: "Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted. This probably means that the CD-ROM was not in the drive. If so you can insert it and try again. Try again to mount the CD-ROM? <YES> <NO>. no success choosing yes. cd-rom is defenitely in the drive
[06:19] <mangobot> ummm
[06:19] <mangobot> i'm not sure
[06:19] <mangobot> how do i get those??
[06:20] <richiefrich> mangobot   and did i -->  modprode fglrx
[06:20] <plastic> Lane, try to use SWScanner
[06:20] <riaal> sethk: what kind of problem is it? I was trying to install a cd-rom when it occur
[06:20] <kev900> there's no easy way to install mythtv is there?
[06:20] <sethk> beesandflowers, I've seen that before when there is confusion about which device is the cd (confusion from the perspective of the kernel)
[06:20] <kev900> I've been struggling with that for a couple days now (I'm a n00b)
[06:20] <ymlu> i just compiled cool program rtorrent
[06:20] <waspius> does anyone know how to install a bootsplash?
[06:20] <beesandflowers> sethk: i would be happy for any and all resources about solving this problem...
[06:20] <zeroflag> does the ubuntu installation disk have raid drivers?
[06:20] <dr_willis> !bootsplash
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:21] <mangobot> richiefrich: ok... what does that do?
[06:21] <sethk> riaal, I'm not really sure, but your root file system is ok and you should be able to boot.
[06:21] <shrift> spoon: did that last command help at all?
[06:21] <sethk> beesandflowers, you might tree using the flag that tells it to not use dma, which I believe is ide=nodma
[06:21] <dgrantwork> how can I add edgy sources but not have them show up on apt-get upgrade. ie. leave dapper as the default
[06:21] <beesandflowers> sethk: will do
[06:21] <dgrantwork> this used to be possible in debian
[06:21] <sethk> beesandflowers, you said this is a laptop?  What kind of hard drive does it have?
[06:21] <richiefrich> mangobot well that gives u 3d
[06:22] <sethk> riaal, can you borrow another machine and burn yourself a rescue cd?
[06:22] <beesandflowers> sethk i think an ata drive 5400 seagate momentus
[06:22] <mangobot> richiefrich
[06:22] <scenestar> can someone tell me how i set the DEFAULT-WM value again
[06:22] <Lane> plastic: Thank you, I will have to try it when I get home because I am behind a corprate firewall that does not allow packages to be downloaded
[06:22] <mangobot> oh...really?
[06:22] <sethk> beesandflowers, ide, not sata?
[06:22] <scenestar> was it xinitrc or something else
[06:22] <beesandflowers> i rather thought so, but i don't know
[06:22] <richiefrich> manopulus   http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[06:22] <beesandflowers> i thought ide
[06:22] <shrift> riaal: have you try booting in the safe mode? sorry but butt in, just thought I'd ask.
[06:22] <kaffien> how do i use CIFS in ubuntu?
[06:22] <richiefrich> mangobot    http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[06:22] <richiefrich> manopulus not for u
[06:22] <sethk> beesandflowers, unless it is a very new laptop it wouldn't be sata.  Even for a new one it is likely not sata in a laptop
[06:22] <riaal> sethk: I just smashed the keyboard and a prompt appered :D shall i just type "e3fsck"?
[06:23] <sethk> riaal, try  fsck.ext3 /dev/hdc1
[06:23] <mangobot> richiefrich: glxgears is still slow as hell for me...
[06:23] <sethk> beesandflowers, I only asked because I saw a similar problem yesterday with an ide cdrom and an sata hard drive.
[06:23] <plastic> Lane, ok.. if in any case i will be here..tell me how it goes..
[06:24] <spoon> shrift, it didn't
[06:24] <Lane> plastic: Thanks again and I will let you know.
[06:24] <beesandflowers> ok, booting with ide=nodma results in a kernel panic
[06:24] <shrift> spoon: what did it say? same thinga s before?
[06:24] <richiefrich> mangobot u have no 3d
[06:24] <beesandflowers> and i am panicky as well :)
[06:24] <spoon> shrift, similar error, but shorter... I put it in the pastebin...
[06:24] <richiefrich> mangobot fglrxinfo
[06:24] <richiefrich> what  that do ?
[06:24] <kyja> Installing DD606 with the alternitave cd... it only asks you to set a password for new user.... so once done I cant log in... what is that user name that goes with that password...thx
[06:25] <msoul> thanks again erUSUL and TheGateKeeper
[06:25] <beesandflowers> sethk: just to make sure i boot the alternate cd press f6 and simply write ide=nodma?
[06:25] <riaal> salah: "bla bla, looks bad, bla bla, Recollect?<Y>" shall I?
[06:25] <willys_fueguino> Can I upload photos ringtones and games to an usb motorola v220 cell-phone??
[06:25] <kyja> realy?
[06:25] <kaffien> any idea on CIFS for ubuntu?
[06:25] <kyja> what does that do?
[06:25] <cedric_> is there some bcm43xx users here ?
[06:25] <sethk> beesandflowers, I'm not certain because I've only done it with breezy and you are using dapper.  The help should tell you
[06:26] <kyja> yes cedric
[06:26] <kaffien> it allows you to mount windows shares
[06:26] <tenco> how can i colour "grep"'s output?
[06:26] <spoon> This damn program will not uninstall because I manually removed some files...
[06:26] <sethk> kaffien, use samba to mount windows shares in linux
[06:26] <fileserver> ok time to install windows again aleast it easyer to work!!!
[06:26] <mangobot> richiefrich: it can't find the command....
[06:26] <riaal> sethk?
[06:27] <Pozzy> hi
[06:27] <richiefrich> mangobot then u dont have the drivers installed
[06:27] <sethk> riaal, sorry, I wasn't here for a minute.  did you ask something?
[06:27] <mangobot> oh
[06:27] <kaffien> cifs is part of samba.....
[06:27] <kyja> !new user
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about new user - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <sethk> kaffien, yes
[06:27] <richiefrich> mangobot  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[06:27] <sethk> kaffien, I didn't know if you are asking or answering
[06:27] <park_canada> hi. i have another computer in the network using ubuntu. how do i "see" one computer from the other? (like Windows network places)
[06:27] <richiefrich> mangobot all u need :P
[06:27] <willys_fueguino> Can I upload photos ringtones and games to an usb motorola v220 cell-phone??
[06:27] <kaffien> im asking how to install cifs support
[06:27] <sethk> park_canada, typically using NFS file systems
[06:27] <kaffien> samba uses it to mount windows 2003 server shares
[06:27] <tenco> how can i colour "grep"'s output?
[06:28] <park_canada> sethk: ok, can u tell me how to do it ?
[06:28] <richiefrich> mangobot  u should exit X and goto console  1st
[06:28] <park_canada> sethk: what to choose on the menu ?
[06:28] <riaal> sethk: "bla bla, looks bad, bla bla, Recollect?<Y>" shall I?
[06:28] <shrift> spoon: look here please, and try the 7th post. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149382
[06:28] <mangobot> ok
[06:28] <sethk> kaffien, should be installed when you install samba.  It wasn't?
[06:28] <willys_fueguino> How can I upload photos ringtones and games to an usb motorola v220 cell-phone??
[06:28] <willys_fueguino> How can I upload photos ringtones and games to an usb motorola v220 cell-phone??
[06:28] <richiefrich> tenco man grep :P
[06:28] <kaffien> negative
[06:28] <tenco> :\
[06:28] <kaffien> smbmount wasnt even isntall
[06:28] <kaffien> we have letss seee here  3.0.22
[06:28] <shrift> spoon: got to run for a bit, I'll check back with you in a bit.
[06:28] <sethk> park_canada, I don't know how to do it with menus.  At the command line you create a file, /etc/exports, then you run the exportfs command, then you mount from the other machine as -t nfs
[06:29] <park_canada> ok i;ll try
[06:29] <sethk> kaffien, smbmount wasn't installed?  Is this dapper?  Possibly the package names have changed, I'm not sure.
[06:29] <willys_fueguino> How can I upload photos ringtones and games to an usb motorola v220 cell-phone??
[06:29] <richiefrich> tenco  grep --color=always
[06:29] <park_canada> roy@roy-desktop:~$ cd /etc/exports
[06:29] <park_canada> bash: cd: /etc/exports: No such file or directory
[06:29] <spoon> shrift, thanks
[06:30] <sethk> riaal, say yes to all the questions about whether it should fix.  wait, though...
[06:30] <riaal> sethk: what do you think, shall i "Relocate?"
[06:30] <richiefrich> willys_fueguino  plug it in
[06:30] <tenco> richiefrich, thanks
[06:30] <sethk> riaal, yes, but ...
[06:30] <richiefrich> willys_fueguino  and use the motorla app
[06:30] <richiefrich> in wine
[06:30] <sethk> riaal, we should run the command that was shown on the screen in the error message, I believe it was tune2fs -b?
[06:30] <mwob> Hi there ubuntu gurus ;) Can anyone tell me how to "bounce" my netwrok connection? I am using a ADSL modem, and I want to disconnect and re-connect
[06:30] <willys_fueguino> richiefrich: thanxx I'll try
[06:30] <richiefrich> ok
[06:30] <dgrantwork> how come apt is ignoring my APT::Default-Release setting?
[06:30] <richiefrich> it works
[06:31] <sethk> riaal, here it is:  run e2fsck -b 32768 /dev/hdc1
[06:31] <richiefrich> willys_fueguino if u had usb
[06:31] <richiefrich> willys_fueguino if u had  bluetooth on that phone
[06:31] <riaal> sethk: ok, thanks a lot
[06:31] <sethk> riaal, e2fsck is the same as fsck.ext3 (at least in this instance)
[06:31] <richiefrich> it be easier
[06:31] <sethk> riaal, then do the fsck.ext3 command, and say Y to any questions about whether to fix
[06:31] <sethk> riaal, the only reason to say N is if you intend to do a raw backup of the partition.
[06:32] <sethk> riaal, otherwise, since you can't use it without fixing it, you might as well just say Y
[06:32] <willys_fueguino> richiefrich: I have usb
[06:32] <richiefrich> willys_fueguino  i meat  bluetooth
[06:32] <willys_fueguino> richiefrich: ok
[06:32] <willys_fueguino> ;-)
[06:32] <Nach_Fred> hi all
[06:32] <sethk> willys_fueguino, usually it should look like a usb drive with a VFAT partition (or possibly fat16)
[06:33] <Nach_Fred> simple question : is it possible to only list the directory with "LS" ?
[06:33] <riaal> sethk: so Y to relocate at the first one? fsck.ext3? it will do the same thing as the other one? right?
[06:33] <praetor> hi
[06:33] <park_canada> what is the cmd to creat a new file ?...
[06:33] <praetor> my brother has a laptop, and he wants to run xubuntu on it
[06:33] <shrift> spoon: any luck?
[06:33] <sethk> riaal, yes, they are the same, and, yes, answer Y there
[06:33] <willys_fueguino> sethk: Where??
[06:33] <spoon> shrift, it worked, i removed the post-removal script and it unistalled with the sudo dpkg-r --force-all jedit
[06:33] <kyja> I still cant find how to login first time after a alternate cd install :(
[06:34] <praetor> the wireless and all that jazz on my brother's laptop - will it work finely under xubuntu?
[06:34] <shrift> spoon: excellent.
[06:34] <sethk> willys_fueguino, run dmesg after connecting it and turning it on.  There should be a message saying it is /dev/sda1 (or sdb1, or sdc1, etc)
[06:34] <mwob> anyone? just want to bounce the ADSL connection
[06:34] <shrift> spoon: so what are you trying to do originally?
[06:34] <spoon> shrift: install jedit
[06:34] <shrift> spoon: and that version didn't work?
[06:34] <spoon> shrift, I am using the jar file, it works great
[06:34] <sethk> riaal, have to go for a bit; I'll be back.
[06:34] <shrift> spoon: ok so you're all set now?
[06:35] <praetor> does anyone here have any experience with ubuntu (xubuntu preferably) and laptops?
[06:35] <spoon> shrift: no, but im all set now
[06:35] <shrift> spoon: great. good luck.
[06:35] <kyja> :(
[06:35] <spoon> shrift, the jar works great....  and I have seen a howto on installing hte other one, after i tried
[06:35] <park_canada> y do i get: bash: exportfs: command not found
[06:35] <shrift> spoon: ahhh, good.
[06:35] <willys_fueguino> sethk: nop. It detects it as a modem
[06:36] <shrift> praetor: probably a lot of people have had experience with that.... what is your question exactly?
[06:36] <mindmedic> praetor: i tested xubuntu-desktop yesterday on a fujitsu-amilo, what is your problem
[06:36] <sethk> willys_fueguino, as a modem?  why do you say that?  what's the message?
[06:36] <park_canada> can any1 help me define the other computer in my network (ubuntu too) so they can "see" each other ?
[06:36] <sethk> willys_fueguino, if it is because it has a name like ttyUSB, that doesn't mean it thinks it is a modem
[06:36] <shrift> praetor: also, you should probably head over to #ubuntu-laptop
[06:36] <spoon> park_canada, are you using nfs or samba?
[06:37] <sethk> park_canada, you have to install nfs server and client
[06:37] <park_canada> spoon: i dont know...
[06:37] <praetor> shrift: my brother has a laptop (relatively new, as far as the hardware is concerned).  he wants to run xubuntu on it.  is the driver support for laptop-specific hardware (wireless, graphics, etc) decent?
[06:37] <park_canada> spoon: i'll be happy if u can guide me thorugh the procedure ;)
[06:37] <manopulus> park_canada, you want to exchange files between ?
[06:37] <willys_fueguino> sethk: says ttyACM0: USB ACM device
[06:37] <cedric_> praetor : look at the wiki
[06:37] <park_canada> manopulus: yes
[06:37] <mindmedic> spoon: do you want to exchange files between the two computers or do something else...
[06:37] <sethk> park_canada, you need to install nfs server and client.  samba is only for windows type shares, and shouldn't be used for linux to linux
[06:37] <albacker> is there any tutorial on how to read DVDs under ubuntu cos mplayer isn't working and i have already installed libdvdread and libdvdcss.
[06:38] <shrift> praetor: well that really depends on the specific hardware. In general practice yes. However, I'd do a google search for something like "linux + (your laptop model name here)
[06:38] <park_canada> manopulus: that's the point actually. no other matter
[06:38] <park_canada> sethk: ok. thorugh synaptec ?
[06:38] <manopulus> park_canada, then you need samba server and samba client, and if you have xubuntu or ubuntu(gnome) you probably have it (in settings file sharing)
[06:38] <msoul> one last question
[06:38] <sethk> park_canada, yes, that's the easiest way
[06:38] <spoon> mindmedic: I think park_canada wants to...
[06:38] <msoul> can't install ncurses5-dev
[06:38] <willys_fueguino> sethk: this is with lsusb: Bus 001 Device 010: ID 22b8:4902 Motorola PCS E398 GSM Phone
[06:38] <Roadkill^> hi... why does my ubuntu installer only show one empty partition, when i have 3 partitions on disk?
[06:38] <manopulus> park_canada, in console type apt-cache search samba and install necessary stuff
[06:38] <msoul> with apt-get install that is
[06:38] <TLE> Does anybody know if there is a list of which kind af action automatix takes. More specifically, I'd like to know which application are only installed with apt-get
[06:38] <park_canada> sethk: nfs-user-server ?
[06:38] <albacker> is there any tutorial on how to read DVDs under ubuntu cos mplayer isn't working and i have already installed libdvdread and libdvdcss.
[06:39] <shrift> praetor: and really, #ubuntu-laptop a whole channel just for laptop discussion, I'd bet you have a chance of someone over there having used the laptop. Also, you can get a live CD and try that, if that works, then the real install will work.
[06:39] <sethk> park_canada, let me check, hang on a moment.
[06:39] <riaal> can anyone help me? im trying to use the "e2fsck" and gets the message: "Inode table for group 570 is not in group. WARNING SEVEREDATA LOSS POSSIBLE. Reclocate?" how serious is this??
[06:39] <park_canada> manopulus: but he just said samba is not good 4 me
[06:39] <spoon> albacker, try vlc
[06:39] <park_canada> sethk: thanks a lot
[06:39] <sethk> park_canada, yes, nfs-user-server
[06:39] <park_canada> always very helpful.. :):)
[06:39] <park_canada> ok thans
[06:39] <sethk> park_canada, you also need nfs-kernel-server
[06:39] <snook353> i'm having trouble reinstalling opera
[06:39] <mindmedic> albacker: have you tried totem -> file -> open media "name"
[06:39] <park_canada> oh ok
[06:40] <snook353> its not doing it
[06:40] <sethk> park_canada, I think that will bring in all the dependencies
[06:40] <willys_fueguino> sethk: says ttyACM0: USB ACM device
[06:40] <park_canada> ok
[06:40] <willys_fueguino> sethk: this is with lsusb: Bus 001 Device 010: ID 22b8:4902 Motorola PCS E398 GSM Phone
[06:40] <snook353> its no uninstalling
[06:40] <sethk> willys_fueguino, yes, I saw that.
[06:40] <park_canada> sethk: what's after?
[06:40] <riaal> please, please help me! im dying here!
[06:40] <albacker> spoon, what is it ?
[06:40] <albacker> player ?
[06:40] <sethk> park_canada, what is after what?
[06:40] <willys_fueguino> sethk: what you think of that?
[06:40] <spoon> park_canada, click system_administration_shared folders
[06:40] <albacker> mindmedic, yes, and didn't work either, totem gives me error about libdvdcss [library which i installed] .
[06:40] <waspius> i need some guidance with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20675
[06:40] <park_canada> sethk: what do i do to see the other computer? (it is now installed there too right now)
[06:40] <sethk> willys_fueguino, it's identified it as a phone, which is good.  Does it give you /dev/anything in the dmesg output?
[06:41] <spoon> albacker, video lan client, you can apt-get install it, it comes from videolan.org
[06:41] <park_canada> spoon: thanks
[06:41] <Roadkill^> hi... why does my ubuntu installer only show one empty partition, when i have 3 partitions on disk? This happened when windows installation overwriten my MBR...
[06:41] <spoon> albacker, plays everything...
[06:41] <riaal> can anyone help me? im trying to use the "e2fsck" and gets the message: "Inode table for group 570 is not in group. WARNING SEVEREDATA LOSS POSSIBLE. Reclocate?" how serious is this??
[06:41] <sethk> park_canada, you export the file system on one machine, on the other you mount the file system.
[06:41] <riaal> sethk: still here?
[06:41] <Roadkill^> i can load all the partitions from a livecd linux...
[06:41] <mike-e> how can i view ip history of logins?
[06:41] <sethk> park_canada, so, on the machine that is mounting the other machine's data, you do:   mount -t nfs machinename:/path /local/mount/point
[06:41] <Roadkill^> mike-e: try command "w" in terimnal
[06:41] <shrift> waspius: what are you trying to install? and how? are you custom compiling something?
[06:42] <sethk> park_canada, on the server side, you create file /etc/exports and run exportfs
[06:42] <mike-e> road: i need the history, not cuirrent
[06:42] <riaal> sethk: im dying here =)
[06:42] <park_canada> what is the machine name and path ?
[06:42] <mindmedic> albacker: i got libdvdcss2 and it works perfect in totem & mplayer... you could also try vlc... i believe vlc brings its own dvd support.
[06:42] <sethk> park_canada, the machine name is whatever you named it.  You can see it by typing hostname
[06:42] <Orasis1> Hmm, Can I run MAC OS X in VMWARE on Linux?
[06:42] <park_canada> oh, ok
[06:42] <spoon> sethk, you can click system_administration_shared folders in gnome...
[06:42] <park_canada> and path ?
[06:42] <sethk> park_canada, the path is whatever you are exporting.  If you are exporting, for example, /usr/local, then it is /usr/local
[06:42] <hume> is there anywhere I can find older ubuntu kernel-images, like 2.6.12?
[06:42] <albacker> mindmedic, did you need to install totem-xine or just totem ?
[06:43] <park_canada> ok
[06:43] <park_canada> thasnks spoon and seth!!
[06:43] <sethk> park_canada, spoon is giving you a way to do the same thing with the gui
[06:43] <mindmedic> i've got totem-xine---
[06:43] <park_canada> that's even better
[06:43] <Apeiron> hey all :) i need to compile the dazuko kernel module for my dapper drake, could someone help me a little bit with that? thx for help in advance :)
[06:43] <mindmedic> totem-xine uses the w32codecs package...
[06:43] <willys_fueguino> sethk: this could work??? usb 1-2.1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5
[06:44] <shrift> waspius: you there?
[06:44] <mindmedic> so you get a better support for most proprietary formats out there..
[06:44] <Roadkill^> argh.. can anyone help meee? :)
[06:44] <spoon> sethk, now how do I browse the shared folder with a gui on the other ubuntu machine...
[06:44] <waspius> shrift: yep
[06:44] <msoul> TheGateKeeper: anyidea on how can I install ncurses5-dev? :)
[06:44] <Roadkill^> this is killing me... how do i restore my partition table?
[06:44] <sethk> willys_fueguino, yes, but it should also print that it is treating it as /dev/something.  Perhaps you can paste the output of dmesg to the paste bot?
[06:44] <fr500> hello
[06:44] <shrift> waspius: what is it you are trying to install exactly? and are you trying to install from source or a .deb?
[06:44] <riaal> Can anyone please help me?? im trying to use e2fsck and gets the message: "Inode table for group 570 is not in group. WARNING SEVERE DATA LOSS POSSIBLE. Reclocate?" What to do? How serious is this???
[06:44] <erUSUL> Roadkill^: try gpart
[06:44] <erUSUL> !info gpart
[06:44] <ubotu> gpart: Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1h-4 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 112 kB
[06:44] <Roadkill^> tnx, wil try
[06:45] <sethk> spoon, once it is mounted you browse it the same way you browse local directories.
[06:45] <msoul> erUSUL: what was the two websites you point it to me
[06:45] <mindmedic> albacker: ubotu should know about restricted formats. i don't know how to ask him though
[06:45] <msoul> erUSUL: want to install ncurses5-dev
[06:45] <park_canada> i defined it. but how do i see it ?
[06:45] <sethk> spoon, I don't know the hard way to mount it, with the gui.  the easy way is  mount -t nfs machine_name:/path /mount/point
[06:45] <waspius> shrift: i want to install a package of window decorations..it is source
[06:45] <albacker> mindmedic, i already read about that
[06:45] <park_canada> is there a "network places" folder ?
[06:45] <willys_fueguino> sethk: how???
[06:45] <Roadkill^> bbl
[06:45] <sethk> willys_fueguino, how to paste to the paste bot?
[06:45] <riaal> why is everyone ignoring me? im dying here =)
[06:45] <sethk> willys_fueguino, do   dmesg > filename
[06:46] <mindmedic> albacker: i used easyubuntu on my laptop which worked fine too
[06:46] <sethk> willys_fueguino, edit the file you just created with an editor, say gedit
[06:46] <willys_fueguino> sethk: yes... I dont know how
[06:46] <erUSUL> msoul: is libncurses5-dev
[06:46] <riaal> sethk: please?
[06:46] <msoul> oh
[06:46] <sethk> willys_fueguino, then paste it to the browser.  the url for the paste bot is in the topic
[06:46] <sethk> riaal, sorry, what?
[06:46] <shrift> waspius: ok, looks like it is a package that requires kde libraries, you are using ubuntu or xubuntu I assome?
[06:46] <moonlite1> how do i turn of the new caching in epiphany?
[06:46] <waspius> shrift: i do not know
[06:46] <riaal> sethk: "Inode table for group 570 is not in group. WARNING SEVERE DATA LOSS POSSIBLE. Reclocate?" What to do?
[06:46] <park_canada> spoon: where to navigate to the place i defined ?
[06:47] <albacker> mindmedic, nevermind im going to try a few other packages and get vlc than :) thanks for all :)
[06:47] <shrift> ok, are you using gnome for your desktop?
[06:47] <mike-e> how can i view the last ip addresses to log into a shell account?
[06:47] <waspius> shrift: im using kubuntu
[06:47] <shrift> waspius: hmmm that is odd, ok lets get you some -dev packages then.
[06:47] <sethk> riaal, you are going to simply have to tell it to try to fix it, and pray.  If you have the ability to back up the raw partition first, that's a good idea.  To back up the raw partition you need that amount of space free.  If, say, /dev/hdc1 is a two gig partition, you need to have 2 gig free on another partition to back up.
[06:47] <sethk> riaal, if you can't, or don't want to, back up, then as I said you just tell fsck to try to fix it, and pray.
[06:47] <spoon> park_canada, what kind of machine you using ont he other end?
[06:47] <mindmedic> albacker: vlc is available in universe or multiverse... the newest version can be obtained via the nightlies repository available on videolan.org
[06:47] <moonlite1> my campus makes you auth through a website for the local wlan and now i can't reach a certain site because firefox/epiphany has cached the wlan-login-page instead
[06:47] <MrWoo> can anyone help me with my wireless card?
[06:47] <sethk> riaal, is it going to be a disaster is you lose everything on /dev/hdc1?
[06:48] <plastic> I installed cvoicecontrol to my box sucsessfuly, but when i run microphone_config i get this error 'Error opening terminal: xterm.' -hmmzz.. But the problem is that that i have xterm working on my box properly.. Any ideas?
[06:48] <park_canada> spoon: ubuntu on lap
[06:48] <waspius> shrift: i have kubuntu..that is what u asked right?
[06:48] <Orasis1> Hrmm, how can I remove the I386 kernel and replace it with the I686 kernel?
[06:48] <park_canada> and here its ubuntu on regular
[06:48] <shrift> waspius: yes, that is what I was wondering... hold on.....
[06:48] <riaal> sethk: how the hell did this happen? its a 250gb disk =/ linux really suck
[06:48] <sethk> someone tell park_canada how to mount an NFS file system on the client side through the gui?  I only know how to do it the easy way, from the command line.
[06:48] <siratik000> How would I foudn out how much memory (RAM) I have?
[06:48] <sethk> riaal, Did the machine crash?
[06:49] <park_canada> hah seth :) the easy way is the gui!...
[06:49] <sethk> riaal, any file system is potentially vulnerable to a hardware failure.  To avoid that you have o use hardware raid
[06:49] <mindmedic> siratik000: free -m
[06:49] <albacker> mindmedic, i can play the dvd with mplayer [i had to install mencoder]  but it runs kinda slow :S
[06:49] <sethk> park_canada, actually, no, but people are afraid to do it from the command line so they find a harder way, from the gui.
[06:49] <park_canada> sethk: i think i mounted it bt i dont know how to open it ...
[06:49] <siratik000> I only have 2mb?
[06:49] <kyja> I realy dont know why the alternate install cd never asked for user name only password to create user. so how do I log in please please please
[06:49] <MrWoo> can i upgrade from breezy badger to daper drake? or do i have to uninstall ubuntu and reinstall
[06:49] <sethk> park_canada, if you mounted it, you browse it just as if it were a local file system.
[06:49] <park_canada> sethk: can u tell me how to "connect" it through the command line ?
[06:49] <mindmedic> albacker: thats mostly related to videocard configuration
[06:49] <siratik000> Mem:          2027        932       1095  ? Only 2mb or 2gb?
[06:49] <sethk> park_canada, once it is mounted, you are done
[06:50] <mindmedic> make sure you use "xv" output which is hardware scaled video
[06:50] <park_canada> sethk:  so i dont see it :( both comps have the same name btw
[06:50] <sethk> park_canada, the point of nfs is that it makes a file system on another machine look exactly like a local file system
[06:50] <mindmedic> you card has to support it.. most modern cards do
[06:50] <MrWoo> can i upgrade from breezy badger to daper drake? or do i have to uninstall ubuntu and reinstall
[06:50] <sethk> park_canada, both have the same host name?  that's a bad idea.  Use the IP address instead of the host name, then.
[06:50] <albacker> mindmedic, thanks, that was iT :D
[06:50] <spoon> sethk, so I tried the mount -t nfs machine.ip:/path /mount/point and it didnt work
[06:50] <plastic> siratik000, you have 2027mb
[06:50] <park_canada> seth: can i change the name?
[06:50] <siratik000> plastic: Thank you plastic
[06:50] <sethk> spoon, did you get an error message?
[06:51] <mindmedic> MrWoo: setting your /etc/apt/sources.list to dapper sources and doing an "apt-get dist-upgrade" will update your system to dapper
[06:51] <spoon> mount to nfs server "192.168.0.x" failed
[06:51] <sethk> spoon, you have to export the file system on the server side.  you do that by creating file /etc/exports, and then running the exportfs -a  command
[06:51] <mindmedic> however there are more detailed articles on that in the wiki
[06:51] <fr500> !picasa
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about picasa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <riaal> sethk: can i see whats on the disk?
[06:51] <fr500> !picassa
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about picassa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <sethk> spoon, make sure nfs server is running on the side that exports.  Run exportfs on the server side.
[06:52] <mindmedic> albacker: you're welcome
[06:52] <fr500> !google earth
[06:52] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[06:52] <MrWoo> mindmedic, thats all i have to do is type those commands?
[06:52] <spoon> sethk:the etc/exports, is it supposed to have info about the path im exporting?
[06:52] <mindmedic> fr500: its called picasa
[06:52] <MrWoo> mindmedic, in the terminal
[06:52] <sethk> riaal, depends what you mean by "see".  You can back up the raw data, which it sounds like would take a lot of space.
[06:52] <sethk> spoon, right
[06:52] <fr500> mindmedic: i see
[06:52] <park_canada> can u tell me please how to change my computer name ?
[06:52] <albacker> mindmedic, all i want now is another DVD/CD writer app [i dont have one] .. would you suggest any or k3b is ok [even if im a Gnome user]  ?
[06:52] <fr500> mindmedic: some repos?
[06:52] <mindmedic> MrWoo: you need to update your installation sources first
[06:52] <shrift> waspius: try this: "sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev qt3-apps-dev qt3-apps-dev kdelibs-dev kdebase-dev kde-devel kdegraphics-dev
[06:52] <plastic> !dvd rip
[06:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd rip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <plastic> !dvdrip
[06:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdrip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <riaal> sethk: well i can i see what the name of the directorys is?
[06:52] <sethk> spoon, man exportfs   should give you info
[06:53] <shrift> waspius: that should install a bunch of development libraries that you will probably need for compiling your package.
[06:53] <mindmedic> eg: change every occurrence of "breezy" in your sources.list file to "dapper"
[06:53] <sethk> riaal, no, not unless fsck is successful
[06:53] <sethk> riaal, you can find the mount point for /dev/hdc1 in /etc/fstab
[06:53] <Apeiron> could someone give me the .ko kernel module from dazuko for ubuntu or help me to compile my own? thx in advance for help :)
[06:53] <poison> mindmedic yup
[06:53] <mindmedic> MrWoo: and then do an apt-get update to update them
[06:54] <shrift> waspius: after that stuff is installed, you can simply move the the directory that the source has been unpacked into, and type "./configure"
[06:54] <willys_fueguino> sethk: its uploading with the name dmesg_willys_fueguino
[06:54] <MrWoo> allright
[06:54] <poison> mindmedic then apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade to upgrade
[06:54] <plastic> initNG how fast is it in percent?
[06:54] <shrift> waspius: then, if that all works well, do a "make" in the same directory.
[06:54] <shrift> waspius: after that do "sudo checkinstall"
[06:54] <riaal> sethk: Well i can't se whats in the other 5 disc's.. why? not mounted?
[06:54] <sethk> willys_fueguino, ok, when it is done it will give you a url that you can paste here.
[06:54] <mindmedic> poison: dist-upgrade will upgrade and remove conflicting packages...
[06:54] <mindmedic> think of it as a more agressive "upgrade"
[06:55] <shrift> waspius: you will probably need to install checkinstall first "sudo apt-get install checkinstall"
[06:55] <MrWoo> ubuntu see's my wireless card, but when i go into network settings I can't select it, its not there, only my ethernet port is, what should i do?
[06:55] <the_empty> Was w32codecs removed from the repositories?
[06:55] <dr_willis> !info network-manager
[06:55] <ubotu> network-manager: network management framework (daemon). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 532 kB
[06:55] <sethk> riaal, possibly.  mount (with no arguments) will show you what is mounted.  You can mount the others that are in the fstab with:   mount mount-point  or mount device (for example, mount /dev/hdb1)
[06:55] <Warbo> !info w32codecs
[06:55] <ubotu> Package w32codecs does not exist in dapper
[06:55] <poison> mindmedic I would to apt-get upgrade. that is what worked for me. someone in here said dist-upgrade is better at finding dependencies
[06:55] <Warbo> Yep
[06:55] <shrift> the_empty: that package was never in the real repos
[06:55] <waspius> shrift: i already have config utilities
[06:55] <dr_willis> !info networkmanager
[06:55] <ubotu> Package networkmanager does not exist in dapper
[06:55] <dr_willis> hmm
[06:55] <the_empty> shrift, right but was in multiverse I though... *shrug* OK thanks
[06:55] <shrift> waspius: good, did you try to do a ./configure?
[06:56] <MrWoo> network manager doesn't have my wireless card in there
[06:56] <riaal> sethk: thanks i will try it out.
[06:56] <waspius> shrift: yes
[06:56] <shrift> the_empty: I use this repo for w32codecs: deb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ dapper main
[06:56] <MrWoo> when i look at the hardware ubuntu see's I have it shows my card, but when i go into the network manager thing, my wireless card is not an option
[06:56] <sethk> dr_willis, some things have changed NetworkWhatever from network-whatever.  e.g., breezy's network-admin is dapper's NetworkAdmin
[06:56] <plastic> initNG how faster is it in % than init.d?
[06:56] <mindmedic> poison: when you update and you have a package that relies on an older package version it will prevent a full update of your system..
[06:56] <shrift> waspius: ok what is the output of that? did it work, or did it fail?
[06:57] <dr_willis> sethk,  joy
[06:57] <waspius> shrift: but i get this error checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[06:57] <MrWoo> ubuntu see's my wireless card, but when i go into network settings I can't select it, its not there, only my ethernet port is, what should i do?
[06:57] <mindmedic> so you could do a normal upgrade, and then try a dist-upgrade and look if some packages need to be removed...
[06:57] <Warbo> !repeat > MrWoo
[06:57] <shrift> waspius: can you please pastebin that? From the point where you entered ./configure to where it fails.
[06:58] <waspius> shrift: sure
[06:58] <kyja> I dont understand. does someone have an answer for me?
[06:58] <MrWoo> what do you mean by normal upgrade?
[06:58] <poison> mindmedic I guess if you knew the path to the repository that had your package you could keep it in there. I did not have any problems upgrading. what package is it complaining about?
[06:58] <mindmedic> "apt-get upgrade"
[06:58] <sethk> kyja, I don't see a question from you.  can you repeat?
[06:59] <mindmedic> poison: my system runs fine.. i try to help MrWoo
[06:59] <MrWoo> mindmedic, i don't have any connection to the internet when i use ubuntu
[06:59] <kyja> install of alternate 606 asks only to create password for new user.. so I dont know how to login.
[06:59] <willys_fueguino> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20677
[07:00] <richiefrich> kyja 606 ?
[07:00] <kyja> ubuntu 6.06
[07:00] <mindmedic> MrWoo: thats different.. i suppose you could update from cd.. however i never did it...
[07:00] <waspius> shrift: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20678
[07:00] <Warbo> kyja: You were upgrading from 5.10 to 6.06 or were installing 6.06 from scratch?
[07:00] <willys_fueguino> kyja: try with oem user and the passwd you used in the install
[07:00] <sethk> kyja, so don't you have a user name and password?  the user name and password of the new user you created?
[07:00] <kyja> instll scratch
[07:00] <MrWoo> mindmedic, yea, i'm trying to avoid that, i'd really just prefert to get my wireless card working
[07:00] <sethk> kyja, you have the password you set, and the user name for which you set the password
[07:00] <kyja> right installer only asks to make password. not a user
[07:01] <squee> is it a problem if i have to disable apic to boot?
[07:01] <MrWoo> mind medic, i have the windows drivers for the card with me on a cd, somebody told me something about like an ndiwrapper or something
[07:01] <sethk> kyja, oh, that sounds like a bug.  Someone said the user name is oem
[07:01] <MrWoo> mindmedic, could i use that
[07:01] <Warbo> Could it possibly be a password for root?
[07:01] <sethk> kyja, so try oem, with the password you set
[07:01] <kyja> oh !!
[07:01] <kyja> oem I will try
[07:01] <mindmedic> MrWoo: do that first and then enjoy updating via network...
[07:01] <kyja> thx alot
[07:01] <MrWoo> mindmedic, how do i do that
[07:01] <mindmedic> MrWoo: some cards work using ndiswrapper
[07:01] <richiefrich> kyja try  root  too
[07:01] <the_empty> shrift, thanks- I nabbed the .deb rather than adding the repo
[07:01] <kyja> k
[07:01] <sethk> Warbo, in breezy the expert install has you set the root password and a password for a user.  Not sure about 6.06 alternate, haven't done an install that way.
[07:01] <willys_fueguino> kyja:  the default user name in the instalation is oem
[07:01] <mindmedic> which chipset have you got?
[07:02] <richiefrich> willys_fueguino thats qute dumb.. imo
[07:02] <kyja> =]  you saved my hair guys.
[07:02] <Warbo> sethk: I upgraded a Breezy to a Dapper, and installed a Dapper using desktop CD, so I don't know either
[07:02] <willys_fueguino> richiefrich: what thing??
[07:02] <MrWoo> mindmedic, let me see if i can find out
[07:02] <sethk> willys_fueguino, I'm looking up how you use the ACM device
[07:02] <soheil> hi room
[07:03] <richiefrich> willys_fueguinothe default user name in the instalation is oem  <-- that u should be allowed to make your own
[07:03] <sethk> Warbo, ok.  If kyja tried oem, and it worked, I guess the name is oem   :)
[07:03] <richiefrich> why set a default
[07:03] <shrift> the_empty: sure.
[07:03] <sethk> thanks willys_fueguino for the user name
[07:03] <soheil> any1 here has done and GUI staff using ubuntu?
[07:03] <sethk> richiefrich, I agree, a default user name is bizarre.
[07:03] <sethk> richiefrich, but apparently that's what it does, so ...
[07:03] <richiefrich> sethk no dumb
[07:03] <kyja> I will tell you in a few minutes. ok =]  I tried running installer again and is still installing.
[07:03] <willys_fueguino> richiefrich: in the alternate cd when you install in the oem mode thats the user wich installs the ubuntu..
[07:03] <mindmedic> MrWoo: if your card is not recognized already, find out what card it is and google for it... i made sure my cards work before i bought them, so I don't know anything about ndiswrapper, wlan-ng, etc.
[07:04] <shrift> waspius: ok try this: sudo apt-get install x-window-system-dev then run the ./configure again.
[07:04] <soheil> any1 here has done and GUI staff using ubuntu?
[07:04] <trappist> soheil: what?
[07:04] <tmccrary> I need to reinstall cups completely, with stock config files and everything. How do I do this? I've tried apt-get --reinstall install cupsys and dpkg-reconfigure cupsys but it won't nuke everything
[07:04] <soheil> how ro do GUI program using ubuntu?
[07:04] <waspius> shrift: couldnt find package
[07:04] <Warbo> An OEM system asks for username and password after it has been installed, so the computer can be sold preinstalled and the user sets it up themselves. However, if tweaks are needed by the vendor then having an oem user seems sensible
[07:04] <soheil> how ro do GUI program using ubuntu?
[07:04] <MrWoo> mindmedic, well ubuntu actually sees the card, i went into hardware manager and it sees the card there, it knows its a belkin 45G
[07:04] <MrWoo> *54g
[07:04] <willys_fueguino> richiefrich: and when you first boot lets you make the users but if xserver fails you can't make the users
[07:04] <tuxtux> bye bye
[07:04] <soheil> how ro do GUI program using ubuntu?
[07:04] <trappist> soheil: please stop repeating yourself.
[07:04] <Warbo> soheil: You want to program a GUI?
[07:04] <richiefrich> willys_fueguino so u must then go del him and then make a new one once u boot.. that seems so logical to me ..  *sarcasm*
[07:05] <mindmedic> i think that card works out of the box...
[07:05] <soheil> a program that uses GUI
[07:05] <mindmedic> can you connect to wlans using the network manager?
[07:05] <sethk> Warbo, someone is going to install ubuntu and not tell the person buying the computer how to log in?
[07:05] <soheil> like windows, menus,..
[07:05] <Warbo> soheil: Check out Glade and Gazpacho
[07:05] <sethk> Warbo, that's useless, because without the password, having the user name is worthless
[07:05] <the_empty> soheil ask your real question don't dance around it
[07:05] <kyja> I this laptop I have running bcm4306 but it only works with 11M. but thats ok for now.
[07:05] <Warbo> soheil: Or even Gambas
[07:05] <tmccrary> is it even possible in ubuntu?
[07:05] <MrWoo> mindmedic, thats the thing i can't do, when i go into my network manager, it shows my eth0 interface and my IEE1384, but not my wireless
[07:06] <shrift> waspius: how is that working?
[07:06] <kyja> did you try iwconfig
[07:06] <sethk> soheil, there are several different packages.  the primary underlying libraries are gtk++ and qt.
[07:06] <Warbo> sethk: No, I mean that after the computer is set up and installed, the person takes it home, turns it on and then is asked for their password
[07:06] <sethk> soheil, gnome is built on gtk++, and kde is built on qt
[07:06] <Warbo> (well, username, password, details, etc.)
[07:06] <mindmedic> well are there any wlans around for you to connect...
[07:06] <willys_fueguino> richiefrich: it's oem@ubuntu $ sudo oem-config-prepare then reboot and automaticly erases that user and lets you create your user but thats only if the xserver works fine
[07:06] <MrWoo> yea
[07:06] <sethk> Warbo, they are asked for the user name and password, not just the password
[07:06] <waspius> shrift: it says no couldnt find package
[07:06] <kyja> woot
[07:06] <gnomefreak> tmccrary: sudo apt-get remove --pruge
[07:06] <MrWoo> i'm using the WLAN right now, my computer is set up to dual boot and i'm on my XP
[07:06] <gnomefreak> oops
[07:06] <shrift> hmmmm
[07:07] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get remove --purge
[07:07] <the_empty> tmccrary, try apt-get --purge cupsys;
[07:07] <sethk> gnomefreak, pruge?
[07:07] <sethk> :)
[07:07] <mindmedic> have you left-clicked on the network-manager icon or right-clicked
[07:07] <gnomefreak> :)
[07:07] <mindmedic> that was my error once :)
[07:07] <the_empty> err with the remove in it, sorry
[07:07] <MrWoo> mindmedic, left clicked i guess
[07:07] <MrWoo> mindmedic, i mean i got in there
[07:08] <Warbo> sethk: Yes, but DURING the install only the password is asked for, since the OEM vendor is not going to be using the computer, the user is. But in case they need to alter the setup (drivers, etc) then a default user "oem" is made, and to keep the system secure it asks the vendor for a password. Then the customer never sees that account
[07:08] <shrift> waspius: try libx11-dev
[07:08] <MrWoo> mindmedic, will something different happen if i right click
[07:08] <mindmedic> well, one thing i dont like about the network manager applet is the huge difference of a left or right click.
[07:08] <kyja> =]  makes sence indeed. we would be our own oem
[07:08] <willys_fueguino> sethk: you saw the pastebin??
[07:08] <kyja> thats cool
[07:08] <squee> is it a bad thing if i have to turn off apic to boot while installing ubuntu?
[07:08] <sethk> Warbo, I still say, since you have to give the password to someone, there is no advantage in giving only the password rather than the user name and password
[07:09] <lnx^_> hiya
[07:09] <MrWoo> mindmedic, so i should right click on the applet when starting it?
[07:09] <lnx^_> how do I convert .3gp -> .avi?
[07:09] <sethk> willys_fueguino, yes, I'm looking up how to use it.  You need to install a package; I'm trying to find which one.
[07:09] <shrift> waspius: did that work?
[07:09] <mindmedic> MrWoo: look in the wiki for your card... if there are problems with it i'm sure its the best place to get them solved... left-click shows available networks
[07:09] <selinuxium> Hi all, I am trying to configure xdmcp but now the login via xdmcp has disappeared... Any ideas?
[07:09] <Warbo> lnx^: There is a QT tool for that I think on kdeapps.org (I think that is the right address)
[07:09] <soheil> :((abudhabichess requiers IE
[07:09] <willys_fueguino> sethk: I'll be eternaly grateful
[07:09] <MrWoo> mindmedic, i can't click on the card period
[07:09] <siratik000> Help, how do I figure out if someone is "calling" the phone line my modem is on?
[07:10] <sethk> willys_fueguino, I'm looking, but I can't promise I'll find it.  I have breezy here but not dapper.
[07:10] <Warbo> siratik000: Pick it up?
[07:10] <lnx^> Warbo: works in gnome too?
[07:10] <park_canada> can u tell me how to change my computer name ?
[07:10] <Warbo> lnx^: Yes, but obviously uses a QT theme
[07:10] <lnx^> and it's kde-apps.org AFAIK
[07:10] <mindmedic> if your laptop has a hardware on/off switch make sure it is enabled too...
[07:10] <park_canada> if u did im sorry i missed it..
[07:10] <mindmedic> what do you mean by click on the card?
[07:10] <Warbo> park_canada: "sudo hostname"
[07:10] <shrift> waspius: and try xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-dev        you're using dapper right?
[07:10] <MrWoo> mindmedic, i'm on a desktop
[07:10] <mindmedic> i am talking about the networkmanager icon in the system tray
[07:10] <siratik000> Warbo: How do i know when to pick it u if i don't know if its ringing?
[07:11] <siratik000> And worse yet, I have to figure this out from the command line
[07:11] <shrift> waspius: also xorg-dev
[07:11] <park_canada> roy@roy-desktop:~$ sudo hostname neta
[07:11] <park_canada> roy@roy-desktop:~$ sudo hostname
[07:11] <park_canada> sudo: unable to lookup neta via gethostbyname()
[07:11] <MrWoo> mindmedic, when i go click on the network manager icon to start it up, i go in, and there is not choice for my wireless card
[07:11] <waspius> shrift: the same error shows up
[07:11] <shrift> waspius: ok try xorg-dev too
[07:11] <willys_fueguino> richiefrich: You used the alternate cd even once??
[07:12] <shrift> waspius: andyou are using dapper right?
[07:12] <lnx^> Warbo: can it convert both FROM 3gp and TO 3gp?
[07:12] <richiefrich> willys_fueguino no i just find ikt odd
[07:12] <richiefrich> it*
[07:12] <jdt> hi
[07:12] <mindmedic> better set your card up then and make sure "iwconfig" shows wireless extensions for your card
[07:12] <MrWoo> whats iwconfig
[07:12] <Warbo> lnx^: I can't remember. I think it was mainly to, but could also do from. I forget what it was called ("3gpwiz" or something)
[07:12] <Apeiron> could someone give me the .ko kernel module from dazuko for ubuntu or help me to compile my own? thx in advance for help :)
[07:12] <MrWoo> yea i don't think my card is set up
[07:13] <shrift> waspius: so you have xorg-dev installed now? and you are using dapper, right?
[07:13] <Daniel0> hey, i installed the things on this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=226298 for testing, but i can't figure out how to remove it again. can somebody help me?
[07:13] <jdt> i setup wine but when i try to get my cd/dvd drives keep deleating them?
[07:14] <rixxon> how do i connect to a VPN
[07:14] <willys_fueguino> richiefrich: I had to use cause I'm a newbie and I coudn't fix xorg... with it that cd I learnt a lot...
[07:14] <willys_fueguino> *to use it
[07:14] <mindmedic> MrWoo: when you type iwconfig in a console it shows which network interface has wireless extensions
[07:14] <MrWoo> awesome, thanks i'll try that out, be back in a bit
[07:14] <CheetahMk2> Is there any way to get Xorg 7.1 working on Dapper? Any repos or anything like that for a .deb package
[07:15] <rixxon> !vpn
[07:15] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[07:15] <rixxon> !pptp
[07:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pptp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:15] <drezha> how can I edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file whilst in cmd line mode?
[07:15] <jdt> can i get Quick tv to work on ubuntu?
[07:15] <squee> I have the network manager set up and managing my wireless very well, but everytime i reboot, it asks me for the keyring password.  Is there anyway to let this program just get it without needing intervention?
[07:15] <waspius> shrift: yes
[07:15] <CheetahMk2> drezha: sudo nano /etc/X11xorg.conf
[07:15] <Warbo> drezha: "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[07:15] <drezha> cheers
[07:15] <shrift> waspius: good have you tried it again after install the xorg-dev package?
[07:15] <jdt> how?
[07:16] <waspius> shrift: yes
[07:16] <drezha> I edited the vert refresh and horiz sync and messed up :(
[07:16] <shrift> waspius: same error?
[07:16] <waspius> shrift: i get the same error in the end
[07:16] <brush01uk> #ubuntu classroom
[07:16] <shrift> waspius: hmmmmmmm
[07:16] <richiefrich> willys_fueguino no i been using since 93.. but i run arch and gentoo and that oem seems really odd to me thats all
[07:17] <riaal> im trying to enter a folder whit some windows special charr in it. when i type cd and press tab it apperars like a square. how do i type /enter that??? please
[07:17] <Warbo> riaal: You can always use ? as a single wildcard
[07:17] <jdt> can Quick tv wok on ubuntu
[07:17] <brush01uk> hi Shrift any luck on your W network, how do i get back to the classroom p[lease
[07:17] <willys_fueguino> richiefrich: oks.... ;-)
[07:17] <Warbo> (so "weird\ file?s\ name")
[07:18] <lookt> how do i activate my wireless card?
[07:18] <CheetahMk2> lookt: depends on what one you have, and what security you have on the access point
[07:18] <shrift> brush01uk: simply type /join #ubuntu-classroom
[07:18] <riaal> Warbo: ? please take that one more time?
[07:19] <brush01uk> thankyou
[07:19] <drezha> after I've edited it with nano, how do I save it and retsart X?
[07:19] <CheetahMk2> drezha: you press CTRL+O, specify the filename, and hit enter.
[07:19] <drezha> cheers
[07:19] <CheetahMk2> Or, you hit CTRL+X to exit, and it will prompt then
[07:19] <jdt> 
[07:20] <waspius> shrift: i hae installed build essential and some additional packages..maybe i have not installed them all
[07:20] <lookt> CheetahMk2: 	Intel (R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
[07:20] <CheetahMk2> lookt: type iwconfig, tell me what it says.
[07:21] <fake-> what does everyone use in place of itunes?
[07:21] <CheetahMk2> there should be a couple interfaces, only tell me which ones have 'wireless extentsions'
[07:21] <sblackstone> anyone have a suggestion: compiz: Support for non power of two textures missing...old RIVA TNT2 with the older nvidia driver
[07:21] <sblackstone> searched eveywhere for this.
[07:21] <trygvea1> How can I install grub? I'm om a ubuntu-live cd now.
[07:21] <Orasis1> What is "compiz"?
[07:21] <sblackstone> new window manager
[07:21] <lookt> CheetahMk2:brb, to my laptop
[07:22] <baskew> !compiz
[07:22] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:22] <shrift> waspius: I think you are probably good... try installing kdebase-dev
[07:22] <drezha> @trygvea1: install just grub or Ubunutu?
[07:22] <trygvea1> just grub
[07:22] <Orasis1> baskew: ;D
[07:22] <trygvea1> Ubuntu is installed
[07:22] <baskew> =] 
[07:23] <ArisTos> hello
[07:23] <waspius> shrift: should i uninstall the packages i installed?previously?
[07:23] <drezha> thought it installed as deafult when you installed ubuntu
[07:23] <trygvea1> windows has overwritten it
[07:23] <shrift> waspius: also try xlibs-dev    No leave all the packages installed, they will not hurt anything.
[07:24] <ArisTos> fresh ubuntu installed on notebook. The problem is the console fonts looks bad with subpixel smoothing... any advice?
[07:24] <lookt> CheetahMk2: Eth1 has wireless extension
[07:25] <CheetahMk2> Hm.. that's odd. Oh well, I guess run with that.
[07:25] <Orasis1> Windows on a 3d cube?, .. :)) wow, a pure eyecandy window manager..
[07:25] <CheetahMk2> You know that networking thingie in the upper right corner?
[07:25] <CheetahMk2> double click it. In that box, type Eth0, then click the configure button
[07:25] <siratik000> I need to figure out what number my modem is dialing from HOW to do this!!@$~, I don't have any regular phones (all 6 pin modular jacks). Is there a way to call an ANI number from a modem and record the result from ubuntu-server?
[07:25] <CheetahMk2> er.. Eth1
[07:25] <lookt> CheetahMk2: its connected, but firefox doesnt connect
[07:26] <shrift> waspius: I have to go for a while. Good luck while I am gone.
[07:26] <CheetahMk2> click on 'support'
[07:26] <waspius> shrift: thank you very much|!!!!
[07:26] <CheetahMk2> does it list an IP or anything?
[07:26] <lookt> no
[07:26] <CheetahMk2> Does your wireless access point have a password (WEP, WPA)
[07:26] <lookt> is it a DCHP problem?
[07:27] <CheetahMk2> Maybe
[07:27] <CheetahMk2> but first tell me if your AP has a password/security or not
[07:27] <lookt> No
[07:27] <CheetahMk2> ok, then click the 'configure' button.
[07:27] <CheetahMk2> you'll have to type in your admin password
[07:28] <CheetahMk2> You should see 'wireless connection' 'ethernet connection' and maybe 'modem connection'.
[07:28] <CheetahMk2> What does it say on 'Wireless connection'?
[07:29] <lookt> im on different pc, brb
[07:29] <GoDawgs> greetings all
[07:29] <lnx^> Warbo: thanks a lot, got it working
[07:29] <GoDawgs> Hey Guys, how do I install a .sh file?
[07:29] <eyequeue> install?
[07:29] <CheetahMk2> GoDawgs: put it where you want it, then run sudo chmod +x <filename>
[07:30] <eyequeue> do you want to run it?
[07:30] <GoDawgs> CheetahMk2:  thank you.... ok... let me give it a shot
[07:30] <CheetahMk2> wait... I forgot about my question : p
[07:30] <JackMacOKC> GoDawgs: chmod +x filename.sh then ./filename.sh
[07:30] <CheetahMk2> How do I stop libGL warning: 3d driver claims to not support visual #### errors
[07:30] <BeBraw> how can i make a shortcut to a bash script?
[07:31] <CheetahMk2> sudo ln -s <old file> <link you want>
[07:31] <CheetahMk2> I think
[07:31] <GoDawgs> JackMacOKC:  thank you :)
[07:31] <eyequeue> BeBraw, what is shortcut?
[07:31] <xyr|x> hi guys, i'm running ubuntu 6.06.. i ran wine and my system crashes.. now its unableto log on to the GUI login.. it will boot into console login.. any idea how to fix it?
[07:31] <BeBraw> eyequeue: an icon that i need to hit to execute the script
[07:32] <eyequeue> BeBraw, a symlink?  ln -s foo bar
[07:32] <BeBraw> thanks for help fellas
[07:32] <TheGateKeeper_> xyr|x: did you try Ctrl + Alt + F7 ?
[07:32] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x: in the console, run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' first to make sure your xsession is properly configured
[07:32] <GoDawgs> CheetahMk2:  Nothing happend when I ran the command
[07:32] <eyequeue> BeBraw, a symlink?  ln -s foo.sh bar
[07:32] <xyr|x> ctrl alt f7 is blank
[07:33] <xyr|x> jackmacokc : i try that..
[07:33] <GoDawgs> JackMacOKC:  where does one put software?
[07:33] <TheGateKeeper_> xyr|x: worth a try :-)
[07:33] <CheetahMk2> GoDawgs: nothing would happen, you just set permissions on the file
[07:33] <siratik000> How do I foudn out if my modem is installed ?
[07:33] <CheetahMk2> Not all files can be 'run' by default
[07:33] <GoDawgs> CheetahMk2:  To do what?
[07:33] <JackMacOKC> GoDawgs: usually in /usr/local
[07:33] <CheetahMk2> now you type the name of the script, and it *can* run now
[07:33] <erUSUL> !modem > siratik000
[07:33] <GoDawgs> JackMacOKC:  ok...
[07:33] <nocti> http://www.clublaugh.com/es-items/712.swf
[07:33] <siratik000> No I don't want to connect via dialup
[07:33] <JackMacOKC> GoDawgs: but it depends on what it is
[07:33] <siratik000> I'm setting up hylafax
[07:34] <GoDawgs>  CrossOver Office
[07:34] <eyequeue> /opt
[07:34] <erUSUL> siratik000: it is a serial modem or winmodem (most internal)
[07:34] <colinmart> just upgraded my hh rlease to v6.06...curious what the primary upgrades actually are; any new apps or anything cool I should know about?
[07:34] <GoDawgs> JackMacOKC:  It says I dont' have permissions to move it to that folder
[07:35] <siratik000> I told it to look for the modem at ttys0 but i'm not sure if thats where the modem is at
[07:35] <JackMacOKC> GoDawgs: what are you installing?
[07:35] <eyequeue> GoDawgs, $HOME/bin/ is for non-global
[07:35] <siratik000> no its a real modem
[07:35] <lookt> CheetahMk2: it says eth1 is active - which is the wireless extension
[07:35] <GoDawgs> JackMacOKC:  I'm trying to install CrossOver office.
[07:35] <xyr|x> jackmacokc : i've ran that cmd.. will now reboot
[07:35] <GoDawgs> eyequeue:  non-global what?
[07:35] <eyequeue> GoDawgs, /usr/local/bin/ is for global (requiring root)
[07:35] <eyequeue> GoDawgs, apps
[07:35] <GoDawgs> eyequeue:  oh...
[07:35] <CheetahMk2> lookt: ok, now go into the configuration for that one... 'Properties', I think
[07:35] <GoDawgs> then how does one drag and drop a program from one folder to the next?
[07:35] <CheetahMk2> Make sure DHCP is checked
[07:35] <siratik000> So how do I find out if ubuntu can see my modem and use it?
[07:35] <erUSUL> siratik000: sudo echo "ATZ" > /dev/ttyS0
[07:35] <manmadha> how to put the startup task in ubuntu(song) like windows???
[07:36] <JackMacOKC> GoDawgs: yes as he said, if its just for you put it in $HOME somewhere
[07:36] <eyequeue> GoDawgs, so, if you want it global, sudo mv foo /usr/local/bin
[07:36] <lookt> it is
[07:36] <wasauce> anyone here at linuxworld in SF? or does anyone know if there is a linuxworld room?
[07:36] <CheetahMk2> And enter in the SSID of the AP you want
[07:36] <siratik000> erUSUL: nada back
[07:36] <eyequeue> GoDawgs, so, if you want it per-user, mv foo bin/
[07:36] <GoDawgs> JackMacOKC:  ok
[07:36] <GoDawgs> eyequeue:  I only have one user... myself!
[07:36] <erUSUL> siratik000: look at the leds of your modem
[07:36] <lookt> i put lookwire
[07:36] <siratik000> its an internal - non winmodem
[07:36] <gorski> how do i restore the grub menu when i install windows after ubuntu?
[07:37] <siratik000> No lights
[07:37] <JackMacOKC> gorski: grub-install
[07:37] <manmadha> how to put the startup task in ubuntu(song) like windows???
[07:37] <lookt> cause that is the name of my router
[07:37] <CheetahMk2> lookt: that should be about it. If your AP had WPA, you'd need to get something called network-manager
[07:37] <GoDawgs> JackMacOKC:  ok, so I have it in my folder... now how do I actually install the bugger?
[07:37] <erUSUL> siratik000: then it should be on ttyS2 or ttyS3. look in dmesg (dmesg | less)
[07:37] <CheetahMk2> lookt: if you ever want a snazzier (but a bit unstable) interface, sudo apt-get instlal network-manager
[07:37] <JackMacOKC> GoDawgs: probably ./foo.sh
[07:37] <CheetahMk2> that has AP scanning and such, but kicks you off a lot
[07:38] <gorski> i suppose i will not have any grub menu when i install windows?
[07:38] <JackMacOKC> i dont use crossover office so i dont know
[07:38] <eyequeue> !grub
[07:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:38] <manmadha> how to put startup task in ubuntu?
[07:38] <eyequeue> manmadha, man update-rc.d
[07:38] <GoDawgs> JackMacOKC:  ok....
[07:38] <xyr|x> jack : i still cnt boot into the GUI logon
[07:38] <GoDawgs> eyequeue:  do you know how to install CrossOver office?
[07:38] <siratik000> Oh god, its like acronym soup
[07:38] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x: still blank?
[07:38] <manmadha> eyequeue, thank u
[07:38] <lookt> CheetahMk2: when i did "iwconfig" it says missed beacon: 25
[07:39] <eyequeue> GoDawgs, not sure what it is
[07:39] <JackMacOKC> brb
[07:39] <eyequeue> manmadha, no problem
[07:39] <GoDawgs> eyequeue:  the program?   it allows one to run windows apps...
[07:39] <siratik000> erUSUL: How do I read this dmesg | less?
[07:39] <varsendaggr> hey how do i uninstall openoffice2?
[07:39] <xyr|x> jack : not blank.. it automatically went using console.. using tty1
[07:39] <eyequeue> GoDawgs, eww, no desire for that, sorry
[07:39] <GoDawgs> eyequeue:  I don't have the desire either... but it's a necessity at this point.
[07:39] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x: hmm..let me think for a sec
[07:40] <erUSUL> siratik000: type in a terminal the command as is ' dmesg | less' less aloows you to view it one screen at time using the space bar
[07:40] <gorski> how do i restore the grub menu when i install windows after ubuntu?
[07:40] <eyequeue> GoDawgs, don't they have "wine" or something for that?  sudo apt-get install wine
[07:40] <gorski> i suppose i will not have any grub menu when i install windows?
[07:40] <siratik000> what am I looking for here?
[07:40] <eyequeue> !grub > gorski
[07:40] <GoDawgs> eyequeue:  yeah they do... but I don't think it runs illustrator
[07:40] <xyr|x> jack: i can run startx flawlessly..
[07:40] <BeBraw> how can i make programs to automatically execute on startup? i have these gdesklet and checkgmail programs that i would like to open automatically
[07:41] <varsendaggr> GoDawgs, Inkscape is prettty good
[07:41] <gorski> thank you
[07:41] <erUSUL> siratik000: which of the serial lines is the modem bind to there are a few ttySn
[07:41] <BeBraw> GoDawgs: another alternative is xara lx
[07:41] <T`ch> how does ubuntu autocomplete options for a program?
[07:41] <T`ch> like apt-get [tab] [tab] 
[07:41] <BeBraw> GoDawgs: perhaps even dtpblender if you are familiar with blender
[07:41] <T`ch> it fills with possible options...
[07:41] <varsendaggr> BeBraw, system administaration services
[07:42] <GoDawgs> varsendaggr:  BeBraw:  thank you.... I'll try that in the future... but right now I'm on a deadline.... haven't got time to learn a new prog
[07:42] <GoDawgs> BeBraw:  no, i'm not unfortunately
[07:42] <siratik000> [42949376.770000]  serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
[07:42] <varsendaggr> BeBraw, Dtpblender also comes hightly reccomended by me.
[07:42] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x: have you made sure gnome is installed? i know it sounds silly, but just thinking out loud... maybe try an apt-cache policy gdm
[07:42] <varsendaggr> BeBraw, it will be cool when they come out witht the traceer
[07:43] <BeBraw> varsendaggr: yup
[07:43] <lookt> CheetahMk2: when i did "iwconfig" it says missed beacon: 25
[07:43] <erUSUL> siratik000: those are the normal serial connectors in the back of the computer
[07:43] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : gnome works fine before the crash
[07:44] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x: so if you startx it works fine, its just starting automatically?
[07:44] <manmadha> how to find the ip & mac address of the computers with in our network??
[07:44] <treitter> has anyone set up rsync for serving?
[07:44] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : nope.. manually
[07:44] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x: ok, but it does start fine when done manually, right
[07:44] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : gdm is not installed.. it went missing
[07:44] <JackMacOKC> sudo apt-get install gdm
[07:44] <TheGateKeeper_> manmadha: ifconfig
[07:45] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : startx works fine..
[07:45] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x: sudo apt-get install gdm and reboot and see how it goes
[07:45] <treitter> the example rsyncd.conf says "don't use /var/run/rsync.pid for your pid file if you're running it from the init script", but it doesn't say why not
[07:46] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : aight.. downloading right now..
[07:46] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : gdm is the GUI boot logom?
[07:46] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x yes
[07:46] <Infecto> hello i`v got problem with ubuntu and grub reinstalation, i install first ubuntu then windows and i`v got prolem with grub, when i`m try to reinstall it from rescue mode it fail
[07:46] <manmadha> TheGateKeeper_, no i want how to trace the ip& mac of the other systems.....?
[07:47] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x: well, its the gnome desktop manager
[07:47] <GoDawgs> so I take it one can not install an SH file in Ubuntu?
[07:47] <CheetahMk2> lookt: It seems I have run into a problem that requires my attention, I think someone else can help from here. Again, try apt-get install network-manager
[07:47] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x: i'm no expert, but i do know its 'needed'
[07:47] <JackMacOKC> GoDawgs: sure you can
[07:47] <GoDawgs> is that right?
[07:47] <erUSUL> GoDawgs: sh file.sh does not work?
[07:47] <Infecto> and when i`m trry to do it manualy it says that file stage1 not read correctly
[07:47] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : sounds logical to me
[07:47] <GoDawgs> JackMacOKC:  erUSUL let me try that... i just tried install sh foo.sh
[07:47] <GoDawgs> that didn't work for me
[07:48] <TheGateKeeper_> manmadha: traceroute??
[07:48] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : i used redhat-based system before.. i notice that ubuntu inittab defaults at runlevel 2(multiuser).. redhat multiuser is at runlevel 5
[07:48] <manmadha> TheGateKeeper_, ya
[07:48] <siratik000> How to remove modem in hylafax
[07:48] <Gun_Smoke> I can't seem to get wine to run.. I checked over at #winehq And they have no clue.
[07:48] <JackMacOKC> GoDawgs: with an sh script, you can usually 'chmod +x script.sh' then './script.sh' to execute it
[07:48] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : if i change it to 5.. is there any effect? the comment said 2-5 is multiuser..
[07:48] <GoDawgs> erUSUL:  That worked!  Thank you!!!!
[07:48] <erUSUL> GoDawgs: no problem
[07:48] <Gun_Smoke> Any known problems with wine 0.9.19 and 6.06 or something I'm missing?
[07:49] <GoDawgs> JackMacOKC:  erUSUL helped me get it to work... thank you :)
[07:49] <pawsilver> hi there
[07:49] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x: i'm not possitive if thers any big effect. i've played with the runtime levels before myself and never saw a change so i left it as is
[07:49] <siratik000> How to remove modem in hylafax?
[07:49] <JackMacOKC> GoDawgs: sweet
[07:49] <pawsilver> Does anyone know how to re-install repositries in Synaptic package Manager
[07:49] <pawsilver> ???
[07:49] <rixxon> how to authenticate with the "pptp" program
[07:50] <JackMacOKC> pawsilver: what do you mean re-install?
[07:50] <carthik> !repositories
[07:50] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:50] <GoDawgs> JackMacOKC:  that's what I said! :)
[07:50] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : i thought it was runlevel.. because the same thing happen with redhat if i'm logging in using single-user more
[07:50] <Crooper> pawsilver edit your /etc.apt/sources.list
[07:50] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x: i see. did it come back up yet?
[07:50] <Crooper> etc/apt/sources.list
[07:50] <JackMacOKC> !repositories > pawsilver
[07:51] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : not yet.. still dloding gdm+deps
[07:51] <pawsilver> JackMacOKC, the package seems to be currupt it opens tells me to reload then says it can't and closes
[07:51] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x: yeah that might take a few. i gotta go afk for a few, let me know how it turns out in a few
[07:51] <JackMacOKC> pawsilver: which package?
[07:52] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : aight.. np.. last question.. gdm should be installed by default if using ubuntu desktop ISO right?
[07:52] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x: yes
[07:52] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x: if its not there, you might have accidently removed it when installing something else is only thing i can guess
[07:53] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : i was running synaptic.. then i ran FM2005 using wine when the system crash..
[07:53] <pawsilver> JackMacOKC, the Synaptic package
[07:54] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x: now thats interesting
[07:54] <JackMacOKC> whats FM2005?
[07:54] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : football manager 2005(game) *sigh*
[07:54] <JackMacOKC> hah
[07:54] <pawsilver> !repositories
[07:54] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:54] <pawsilver> !easysource
[07:54] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:54] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x: remind me to not join your fantasy league ;)
[07:54] <mandaponium> my system's gone all wrong :(
[07:55] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : it crash when i use "alt+tab" to check my synaptic process
[07:55] <mandaponium> i upgraded to 6.06 and after a couple of reboots it's told me that the file system's bad
[07:55] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : haha.. why not?
[07:55] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x: joke...if you have that kind of luck with the game, i dont want to be near you for the season :)
[07:56] <mandaponium> it asked me for the root password, and i'm now in the console but i don't know what to do next
[07:56] <mandaponium> anyone any ideas?
[07:56] <JackMacOKC> mandaponium: what did you upgrade from, hoary?
[07:56] <mandaponium> badger i think
[07:57] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : i'm getting hooked with this apt-get/synaptic via package repos.. doesnt have to find rpm no more ;)
[07:57] <JackMacOKC> mandaponium: did you dist-upgrade
[07:57] <y0ss1_77> how do i installl a binary
[07:57] <mandaponium> i used the upgrade manager thingy
[07:57] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x: yeah, i like apt. its a Good Thing.
[07:57] <mandaponium> but it didn't complete
[07:57] <xyr|x> y0ss1_77 : what binary?
[07:57] <jorgg> What is the name of the mail program in linux? The program where i can send messages to other uses with the command: mail
[07:57] <mandaponium> so i ran apt-get dist-upgade
[07:57] <y0ss1_77> realplayer
[07:58] <y0ss1_77> i know its -i file but what command
[07:58] <michael003> jorgg: I think it's mailx
[07:58] <jrib> !realplayer > y0ss1_77
[07:58] <JackMacOKC> mandaponium: i feel your pain. the ugprade process is less than perfect. i had to redo my system as a result as well
[07:58] <slicslak> what's the diff between apt-get and aptitude?
[07:58] <JackMacOKC> jorgg: sendmail?
[07:58] <jorgg> michael003: okay
[07:58] <Crooper> does anyone know how to get evolution to retrieve webmail...in particular yahoo?
[07:58] <jorgg> JackMacOKC: ok.. take a look at the suggestions
[07:58] <mumbles-laptop> anyone know if i can change the startup when you loginto ssh ?
[07:58] <xyr|x> slicslak : aptitude is apt-get gui i suppose..just like synaptic
[07:59] <manopulus> Crooper, yahoo have pop3
[07:59] <mandaponium> if i redo the system does that involve losing data?
[07:59] <djcabz> whoa!!  this place gets mad busy...
[07:59] <Crooper> i don't think so...they won't give it up if they do
[07:59] <xyr|x> mandaponium : yup.. better backup to otherpartition first
[08:00] <manopulus> Crooper, i have mail at yahoo.co.uk
[08:00] <manopulus> Crooper, beleive :) i use it :) was in evolution, now sylpheed
[08:00] <JackMacOKC> mandaponium: if you have your /home partition on its own partition you can save most everything
[08:00] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : grep: /etc/X11/default-display-manager: No such file or directory
[08:00] <TomaszD> how do I change my shell back to /bin/bash? I have dash now
[08:00] <mandaponium> JackMacOKC, how do i check that?
[08:00] <JackMacOKC> mandaponium: if you don't - this is a good lesson to always keep your /home partition seperate :(
[08:00] <Crooper> hmmm... i'll try harder then
[08:01] <xyr|x> invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.
[08:01] <Crooper> thnx manopulus
[08:01] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : i shld restart now?
[08:01] <djcabz> TomaszD:  try chsh
[08:01] <yc1> !ntfs
[08:01] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:01] <yc1> !fuse
[08:01] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:01] <JackMacOKC> mandaponium: 'df -h' is a good way to see your partitions
[08:02] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x: couldnt hurt
[08:02] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : rebbot.. in a sec brb
[08:02] <GoDawgs> JackMacOKC:  now that the program is installed, how do I put an icon in my apps menu for it?
[08:02] <eyequeue> "very unsafe"
[08:03] <TomaszD> djcabz, doesn't work, I've done something like this earlier: update-alternatives --install /bin/sh sh /bin/dash 1
[08:03] <mandaponium> ok, it seems that /dev/hda1 is the only partition :(
[08:03] <jorgg> michael003: mailx was right! thanks! :)
[08:03] <JackMacOKC> GoDawgs: look for the alacart menu editor
[08:03] <michael003> jorgg: Pleasure
[08:03] <GoDawgs> jac
[08:03] <GoDawgs> JackMacOKC:  ok...
[08:03] <mandaponium> is it possible to force a home partition now and move stuff into it?
[08:03] <JackMacOKC> GoDawgs: should be in one of the existing menus
[08:03] <alek> hello
[08:04] <JackMacOKC> mandaponium: no, but you can always recover from a live disc
[08:04] <mandaponium> or should i attempt to start proftpd and backup stuff across the network?
[08:04] <SNippL> so already noticed the bittorrent tracker is shutting down, when u r shutting down ur dapper?
[08:04] <mandaponium> well i do have a live disc - i think... it's the one i installed from at first
[08:04] <JackMacOKC> mandaponium: i would use a live disc and backup over the network, thats probably the easiest, then when you redo your system do some googling on partition setup for linux
[08:04] <GoDawgs> JackMacOKC:  ok let me look
[08:04] <manmadha> can any one tell how to install gmail drive in ubuntu?
[08:05] <djcabz> TomaszD:  hmmm, first things first, lets make sure the bash binary is there...  ls -al /bin/bash
[08:05] <mandaponium> thanks JackMacOKC
[08:05] <JackMacOKC> sure thing
[08:05] <eyequeue> !gmailfs
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gmailfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <eyequeue> manmadha, google for gmailfs
[08:05] <mandaponium> should i tell the wife i might be some time?
[08:05] <TomaszD> djcabz, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 669740 2006-04-22 00:51 /bin/bash
[08:05] <mandaponium> should i get some beer?
[08:05] <JackMacOKC> might be a good idea
[08:05] <Gun_Smoke> manmadha:  Is that like the firefox extention?
[08:06] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : yeah.. thanx dude! now back using GUI logon
[08:06] <manmadha> Gun_Smoke, ya gmail php
[08:06] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x: sweet! glad a dummy could help
[08:06] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : still wondering whres my gdm went during the crash
[08:06] <GoDawgs> JackMacOKC:  I see it in the Alacarte but I don't see it in my apps dropdown
[08:06] <Gun_Smoke> manmadha:  Ah... I think I'll look into it myself.
[08:06] <manmadha> eyequeue, i read them but i can not modify (fstab)....
[08:06] <djcabz> TomaszD:  what happens if you simply type /bin/bash ?
[08:06] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x: who knows, but like i said..sounded silly...but sometimes the silly solution is the right one
[08:07] <GoDawgs> JackMacOKC:  nevermind, I figured it out
[08:07] <GoDawgs> JackMacOKC:  thanks though :)
[08:07] <JackMacOKC> GoDawgs: you'll need to create a new entry to the binary you installed, using the alacarte
[08:07] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : ;)
[08:07] <manmadha> Gun_Smoke,i didn't get u
[08:07] <Krondor> Does anyone know if I can get the package repository lists for Ubuntu from their website?  I can't find it and I'm trying to determine what version a package is in 6.06.
[08:07] <eyequeue> manmadha, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[08:07] <pawsilver> Hi any-one can help?   I get this error when I run Synaptic Package Manager??  Thanx
[08:07] <JackMacOKC> !repositories > Krondor
[08:07] <mandaponium> ok... fsck says this:
[08:07] <pawsilver> "E: Malformed line 22 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[08:07] <pawsilver> E: Unable to lock the list directory"
[08:07] <Warbo> Krondor: Search on packages.ubuntu.com
[08:07] <eyequeue> Krondor, packages.ubuntu.com
[08:07] <djcabz> TomaszD:  excuse me, I mean  /bin/bash --version
[08:07] <mandaponium> "/ contains a file system with errors, check forced."
[08:07] <Krondor> Thanks guys
[08:08] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : by any chance, do u know the equivalent of redhat's "ntsysv" in order to check n uncheck service startup?
[08:08] <mandaponium> "Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks and sizes
[08:08] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x yes, theres an app for that, but i cant remember off the top of my head what it is
[08:08] <tmorton> Anybody here using inkscape from the autopackage of it? I need somebody to help me debug something
[08:08] <TomaszD> djcabz, GNU bash, version 3.1.17(1)-release (i486-pc-linux-gnu)
[08:08] <Warbo> !info bum
[08:08] <ubotu> bum: graphical runlevel editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.5-1build1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 484 kB
[08:08] <squee> how can i figure out what is wrong if my computer keeps locking up in the install?
[08:08] <JackMacOKC> xyr|x check the forums, i know i've used it in breezy
[08:08] <mandaponium> "I nodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found. Fix<y>?"
[08:08] <xyr|x> JackMacOKC : aight.. np
[08:08] <TomaszD> djcabz, but that's not helping, I still cannot run the ati installer which is known to bail out on dash
[08:08] <chrisbudden14> how are external hard drives in Ubuntu?
[08:09] <Warbo> tmorton: I had to compile it myself after filing a bug in the stable version :(
[08:09] <TomaszD> I had this problem today with another workstation djcabz
[08:09] <Warbo> chrisbudden14: I run off one
[08:09] <JackMacOKC> chrisbudden14: i have no problems with them
[08:09] <siratik000> Can anyone help my find my modem/setup hylafax: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20685
[08:09] <method|> are broadcomm wireless cards automatically recognized by ubuntu or do I have to d/l drivers and setup?
[08:09] <djcabz> TomaszD:  you really should be able to simply type  /bin/bash   and be in the bash shell.
[08:09] <JackMacOKC> method|: depends on the model
[08:10] <siratik000> wow djcabz - my real name is ThomasD
[08:10] <TomaszD> djcabz, I know, I wouldn't be here if it was that easy to fix :)
[08:10] <chrisbudden14> Warbo, and JackMacOKC how are the backup features of them?  are they press a button and they pull the data off?
[08:10] <method|> i guess i have a model that isnt recognized then
[08:10] <xyr|x> !ymessenger > xyr|x
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ymessenger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:10] <JackMacOKC> chrisbudden14: no, i dont have that type of external drive. its simply an external drive. in order to do backups you have to use rsync or oether
[08:11] <Warbo> !backup
[08:11] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[08:11] <nahoj> hi everyone. I have a problem with my laptop-screen-resolution. model: acer travelmate 4072wlmi, graphic chipset i915GM. when i run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and i choose to "auto detect monitor" the screen goes black and kicks me out of X, unable to finish the configuration. I have tried to do the same thing without having X running but that didn't give any results. I was then able to finish the configuration though.
[08:11] <nahoj> but the resulotion is still 1024x768.
[08:11] <JackMacOKC> method| what model is it
[08:11] <chrisbudden14> oh cool thanks JackMacOKC  Warbo and ubotu
[08:11] <tmorton> Warbo, bug in inkscape or in autopackage?
[08:12] <djcabz> TomaszD:  I think we've run up to the limit of my knowledge on this topic then...  however, I did notice that your /bin/bash binary was a different size versus mine, yet, the version numbering is the same?
[08:12] <TomaszD> djcabz, I've screwed the other workstation up to the point of the terminal crashing upon start and having no sh interpreter. I had to reinstall that one completely, I don't want to screw this one up
[08:12] <POVaddct> nahoj: apt-get install 915resolution
[08:12] <Warbo> tmorton: Inkscape
[08:12] <mandaponium> nahoj - is the TM screen capable of 1280?
[08:12] <tmorton> ah
[08:12] <mandaponium> mine isn't
[08:12] <mandaponium> although mine's the 855GM
[08:12] <TomaszD> djcabz, ok thanks anyway, will try to get this fixed
[08:12] <nahoj> mandaponium, yes
[08:12] <nahoj> POVaddct, checking that one out
[08:12] <Warbo> tmorton: If using gradients in masks the object would disappear after saving. I lost loads of work because of that :( but it's fixed now
[08:12] <djcabz> TomaszD:  keep asking someone here may know more...
[08:13] <TomaszD> ok
[08:13] <nahoj> POVaddct, nice, something was installed anyway.. should i just restart X?
[08:13] <mandaponium> hmmm, one of the deleted inodes has zero dtime
[08:14] <POVaddct> nahoj: yes, restart X
[08:14] <siratik000> Can anyone help my find my modem/setup hylafax: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20685
[08:14] <JackMacOKC> TomaszD: whats your /etc/shells file look like
[08:14] <djcabz> TomaszD:  what happens when you ls -al /bin/sh
[08:15] <misieq> !mplayer
[08:15] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[08:15] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[08:15] <xyr|x> !mirrot
[08:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mirrot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:15] <xyr|x> !mirror
[08:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[08:15] <JackMacOKC> TomaszD: also check /etc/passwd to see what your shell is set at
[08:15] <nahoj> POVaddct, ty very very much!!
[08:15] <POVaddct> nahoj: no problem
[08:16] <POVaddct> nahoj: 915resolution patches the video bios (which does by default not contain the native display resolution)
[08:16] <siratik000> I have a question: How do I find out if I have a modem (er.. that ubuntu recognizes that I have a modem). And how do I see its status and its serial locations (no its not a winmodem)?
[08:16] <nahoj> POVaddct, very nice to know in the future! =)
[08:17] <cpete> im looking to make the leap into ubuntu later this week, how easy is the setup for raid + dual monitor?
[08:17] <djcabz> I think it is a link issue...  but if running /bin/bash doesn't get you into bash, I'm at a loss.
[08:17] <POVaddct> nahoj: nearly all notebooks with intel shared memory gfx and non-standard resolutions have this problem
[08:17] <JackMacOKC> TomaszD: have you tried changing your shell with the chsh command? you might man chsh
[08:17] <Warbo> siratik000: It should be /dev/ttys0 if it is detected. Try using that in gnome-ppp or something and see if you get a dial tone
[08:17] <siratik000> Warbo: on server
[08:18] <Warbo> siratik000: Ah. Maybe use wvdial to dial then (gnome-ppp is just a GUI for wvdial anyway)
[08:18] <djcabz> JackMacOKC:  what does this command do, update-alternatives --install /bin/sh sh /bin/dash 1  (which is what s/he ran prior to asking here)
[08:18] <TomaszD> JackMacOKC, it shows that the one I'm using is /bin/bash, so it isn't really helping
[08:18] <yc1> !nfs
[08:18] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[08:18] <TomaszD> JackMacOKC, this script is the culprit http://www.dylanknightrogers.com/faster-dapper.sh
[08:18] <siratik000> apt-get install wvdial
[08:18] <Warbo> siratik000: Wrong window?
[08:19] <siratik000> yep
[08:19] <JackMacOKC> hmm..let me go check it out
[08:19] <Warbo> :)
[08:19] <siratik000> Arghh! Hylafax installation is masochistic
[08:19] <misieq> !tell me about mplayer
[08:19] <misieq> !tell misieq about mplayer
[08:20] <KamModMatt> Hello all, I am new to ubuntu as of this morning (and linux for that matter). I installed ubuntu 6.06 x86 and when it finally loads into the OS all I get is a series of colored vertical bars. I thought it might be a resolution issue so I loaded the live CD with various low resolutions with the same issue. I have tried dissabling my SLi and I still have the same issue. Any suggestions?
[08:20] <Warbo> !mplayer > misieq
[08:20] <mandaponium> JackMacOKC, fsck fixed it all :)
[08:20] <ymlu> !tell ymlu about mplayer
[08:20] <siratik000> Wow , wvdial sent an initialization string somewhere, but it didn'
[08:20] <siratik000> t tell me!~
[08:20] <rsk> KamModMatt: try installing the nvidia binary drivers and se if the problem still exsicts
[08:20] <Warbo> ymlu and misieq: Use "/msg ubotu mplayer" instead please
[08:21] <KamModMatt> rsk: how would I do that exactly?
[08:21] <Warbo> siratik000: I think it is all controlled by something in /etc, if I remember right
[08:21] <siratik000> Its ttys4!!! WTF, Why would ubuntu put my modem up on ttys4
[08:21] <Leng> Can someone help me get a Dapper Desktop to get its hostname via dhcp?
[08:21] <siratik000> yep, etc/wvdial.conf
[08:21] <mvhenten> Hello, who's a I have to ... to find out what black magic to use to type an euro sign in abiword on a us keyboard?
[08:21] <jorgg> is there any IM-programs for console that support jabber, msn ICQ etc?
[08:22] <pawsilver> Hi I get this message when reloading in Synaptic Package manager "E: Malformed line 22 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[08:22] <pawsilver> E: Unable to lock the list directory"   help????
[08:22] <Warbo> mvhenten: Applications>Accessories>Character Map
[08:22] <siratik000> pawsilver: sudo apt ...
[08:22] <xyr|x> jorgg :use GAIM! ;)
[08:22] <mvhenten> Warbo: but where if I want to type the damn thing?
[08:22] <xyr|x> !tell jorgg about gaim
[08:22] <mvhenten> I need it more then once a day.
[08:22] <Leng> jorgg: I used something called naim which did a few. aim, icq, irc
[08:22] <rsk> KamModMatt: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:22] <jorgg> xyr|x: does gaim supprt console?
[08:23] <KamModMatt> rsk: thank you very much for the help, I appreciate your time!
[08:23] <pawsilver> siratik000, What u mean?
[08:23] <Warbo> mvhenten: I don't know, I don't use Euro signs or US keyboards (well, unless some dodgy distro doesn't let me change it!)
[08:23] <mvhenten> I think it is quite silly to have a sticky note with a euro sign in it after having euro as a currency for over 6 years now!
[08:23] <jorgg> Leng: okay
[08:23] <xyr|x> jorgg : meaning of console?
[08:23] <Warbo> !euro
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about euro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <jorgg> i mean not in X. working in a terminal
[08:23] <Warbo> Worth a try
[08:23] <Leng> jorgg: I am not sure if it does msn
[08:23] <astroraptor> Hi, can someone help me out with Ubuntu-Lite?
[08:23] <jorgg> Leng: ah.. okay
[08:23] <mvhenten> alt-gr E pops up the abiword menu, not an euro.
[08:24] <xyr|x> jorgg : ic..nope.. gaim runs in X
[08:24] <astroraptor> I'm having difficulty install it =/
[08:24] <jorgg> Leng: Ill check
[08:24] <jorgg> xyr|x: okay..
[08:24] <Leng> jorgg: I just used it for aim.
[08:25] <TomaszD> JackMacOKC, and, how's the script?
[08:25] <burned> ela
[08:25] <burned> ela?
[08:25] <burned> uparhei kanenas ellinas edw??
[08:26] <burned> min gamiswwww....
[08:26] <astroraptor> TomaszD: :O
[08:26] <Warbo> burned: English please
[08:26] <burned> is anyone from greece here??
[08:26] <burned> ti english re arhidi?
[08:26] <Warbo> Ah, Greek. Sorry, I didn't know where to redirect you
[08:26] <burned> ok..
[08:27] <TomaszD> astroraptor, ?
[08:27] <burned> mpa
[08:27] <chavilog> jj
[08:27] <astroraptor> TomaszD: didn't think I'd see you in here
[08:28] <TomaszD> astroraptor, you hang out in #skyos ?
[08:28] <astroraptor> yes
[08:28] <TomaszD> well I'm having a problem, I've decided to drop in, usually kind folk in here
[08:28] <pawsilver> Hi I get this message when reloading in Synaptic Package manager "E: Malformed line 22 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[08:28] <pawsilver>  E: Unable to lock the list directory"   help????
[08:29] <rsk> pawsilver: how does line 22 in sources.list look like?
[08:29] <TomaszD> pawsilver, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list . Check the 22nd line
[08:29] <TomaszD> you probably forgot to put "deb" in front of the address
[08:29] <astroraptor> TomaszD: same thing, only thing is it's with Ubuntu-Lite so I'm not sure how many people use it can help me
[08:30] <xyr|x> !tell xyr|x about enlightenment
[08:31] <Warbo> Gah! It makes no mention of E16! E17 is not a newer version of E16, they are seperate WMs
[08:32] <xyr|x> anybody knows which repos have the enlightenment package? my synaptic doenst display the current version thus i cant download it
[08:32] <Dravas> Where are the Cursors in
[08:32] <Dravas> I wanna add more cursors
[08:32] <Warbo> xyr|x: I compiled the latest version myself (0.16.8.2)
[08:32] <TheGateKeeper> xyr|x: universe
[08:32] <Warbo> Dravas: Install the "gcursor" package
[08:33] <Dravas> ok
[08:33] <iratsu> which ubuntu kernel images should be used on intel macs?
[08:33] <Warbo> Dravas: Then look in System>Preferences
[08:33] <xyr|x> Warbo : will give it a try.. but im interested in getting the package
[08:33] <Dravas> ok thanks Warbo
[08:33] <xyr|x> TheGateKeeper: universe?
[08:34] <Warbo> xyr|x: Unless you want to use composite in it then the one in Universe is fine
[08:34] <godzirra> Hrm.  since I upgraded my system, apache2 can't find mod_perl.pm anymore.
[08:34] <TheGateKeeper> !repos > xyr|x
[08:34] <godzirra> Any suggestions how to fix that?  It says its installed when I try and install it via my package manager.
[08:34] <Warbo> !universe > xyr|x
[08:34] <xyr|x> thanx
[08:34] <treitter> does anyone know why "use chroot" in /etc/rsyncd.conf might not be applied when I start the daemon?
[08:34] <alek> hello
[08:34] <xyr|x> !easysource
[08:34] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:35] <TheGateKeeper> xyr|x: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[08:35] <godzirra> anyone know?
[08:35] <godzirra> Ng: upgrading screwed up my mod_perl :/  I'm not sure how to fix it.
[08:36] <TomaszD> how do I force an update-alternatives on sh when it tells me that there's only dash to choose from? I want bash
[08:36] <harisund> I have a quick question. On Breezy I used to use ndiswrapper to get my wireless card to work. Now on breezy it doesn't. I think I need to blacklist or remove some bcmwl module. Can someone help me do that?
[08:36] <harisund> Sorry I meant in Dapper it doesn't now.
[08:36] <xyr|x> TheGateKeeper : tq!
[08:36] <pawsilver> Tom39Away, Thanx  it was so easy!!  I got all this source code off a site and all I needed was where to put it!!  Its working again thanx
[08:37] <Jowi> harisund: the blacklist is in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:37] <TheGateKeeper> xyr|x: yw :-)
[08:37] <harisund> Jowi what is the name of the module I need to remove to get ndiswrapper working?
[08:37] <Jowi> harisund: no idea - no wireless here
[08:37] <harisund> Jowi I do not want to use fwcutter or anything. I prefer my Breezy method of ndiswrapper to get it to work in dapper as well.
[08:38] <dell500> anyone here know if it's possible to format a 300gb USB SATA drive via fdisk for fat32 (LBA)? I tried, but nothing seems to be progressing
[08:39] <plastic> Hello my tux friends ;-)
[08:39] <dell500> howdy
[08:40] <TomaszD> JackMacOKC, djcabz - I managed to fix this myself :)
[08:42] <stjepan> !gtk
[08:42] <ubotu> gtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications
[08:42] <xyr|x> !tell xyr|x about rcconf
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rcconf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <stjepan> hi
[08:42] <stjepan> can I install new gtk 2.10 in Ubuntu??
[08:42] <JackMacOKC> TomaszD: what did you have to do?
[08:43] <stjepan> in Gentoo I would just emerge it (there is gtk 2.10 ebuild), but ubuntu afaik has no packages for gtk 2.10
[08:43] <xyr|x> dell500 : any specific reason 4 using fat32?
[08:43] <TomaszD> JackMacOKC, sudo update-alternatives --install /bin/sh sh /bin/bash 1 && sudo update-alternatives --config sh (and then I've chosen /bin/bash)
[08:43] <heeeelp> hi, can someone help me find the root of a DMA issue?  I have to put in linux ide=nodma to fix the "mounting root filesystem" hang, and then I have to use sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda after the boot to re-enable it or my os is extremely slow!  Can someone please help me fix this?  I'm a linux newb-  so PLEASE PLEASE explain in a way I can understand.  I've used xp my whole life.
[08:44] <c0rrupt`> hi i have a D-Link DWL 520+ driver but am having trouble finding drivers, does anyone have this card or can help me for a sec
[08:44] <argument> heeeelp, disabling DMA can make your OS slower yes... you also need it for MP3s to play well in XMMS
[08:44] <gutano> I'm having alot of trouble getting a network card working in Ubuntu, it shows up in lscpi as a Realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[08:44] <c0rrupt`> minus the first driver.
[08:44] <nahoj> hmm.. I need some serious help again. when I try to install updates with sudo apt-get update - apt get is complaining about broken deps. how to solve?
[08:44] <gutano> c0rrupt`: /wave
[08:44] <c0rrupt`> lol
[08:44] <heeeelp> argument:  I'm quite aware of that, however I was enquiring how to fix the dma problem, not as to what dma does.
[08:44] <c0rrupt`> u have the card too?
[08:44] <plastic> xyr|x, you can share your partitions with windows on same box..
[08:44] <argument> heeeelp, k, well what kind of hard disk do you have
[08:44] <gutano> c0rrupt`: my d-link works, hehe... 530-TX+
[08:44] <heeeelp> Western Digital 80GB
[08:44] <argument> heeeelp, and what version of ubuntu and what exactly is going on
[08:45] <c0rrupt`> its the "+" thats getting me
[08:45] <heeeelp> IDE
[08:45] <gutano> c0rrupt`: but this is a server, and I'm sitting here with very little resources to lookup on my own
[08:45] <c0rrupt`> i found drivers for dwl-520 but
[08:45] <gutano> c0rrupt`: got 1 nic working, heh
[08:45] <gkappe> Good evening, after I have installed dapper on my father's pc, I get a kubuntu splash boot screen while I installed ubuntu. Anybody have a clue to change it to ubuntu?
[08:45] <c0rrupt`> good for u?
[08:45] <heeeelp> I'm using xorg 7.0, uh....ubuntu version....
[08:45] <heeeelp> eh...
[08:45] <argument> heeeelp, so it's not SATA?
[08:45] <heeeelp> how do i check the version?
[08:45] <gutano> c0rrupt`: I can make it to irc =DS
[08:45] <xyr|x> plastic : i am using my win partition under the same box.. ntfs though :P
[08:45] <pau1> hi all, does anybody know a music program that will play mp3s?
[08:45] <heeeelp> argument, no its not but it has dma
[08:45] <argument> heeeelp, well when did you download your ubuntu CD
[08:45] <c0rrupt`> i dont care if u cant help me
[08:45] <c0rrupt`> ;p
[08:45] <heeeelp> argument yesterday
[08:45] <gutano> c0rrupt`: I'll try =D
[08:46] <c0rrupt`> o rly
[08:46] <xoan> alguien habla espaol?
[08:46] <argument> heeeelp, ok, then you're on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake
[08:46] <c0rrupt`> ok well. i need to find the chipset
[08:46] <heeeelp> Yes
[08:46] <c0rrupt`> but uh
[08:46] <c0rrupt`> "+" = bitch
[08:46] <gutano> lspci should list the chipset
[08:46] <argument> heeeelp, and so what happens when you insert the CD into the drive and attempt to boot from it
[08:46] <xoan> por favor alguien me puede ayudar con un problema
[08:46] <lawine> #es
[08:46] <gutano> lspci | grep Ethernet
[08:46] <xoan> thanks
[08:46] <plastic> xyr|x, ntfs is one of posabilities..
[08:46] <plastic> too
[08:46] !lilo:*! There will be a minor server rehubbing in about 30 seconds. Affected users: about 330.
[08:46] <pau1> I cannot play my mp3 files in rythambox
[08:47] <argument> heeeelp, what make and model is your hard drive
[08:47] <heeeelp> argument, it hangs (Kernel Panic) if I dont disable dma.  In the quiet splash it just says "Mounting root filesystem"
[08:47] <argument> pau1, rhythmbox suxors :) use xmms
[08:47] <plastic> pau1, xmms will do the stuff
[08:47] <siratik000> How do you install ghostscript?
[08:47] <lawine> argument: waht about bmp?
[08:47] <pau1> xmms do I need to down load it?
[08:47] <heeeelp> but later when I enable dma it works smoothly again
[08:47] <heeeelp> make/model?
[08:47] <heeeelp> uh..
[08:47] <dell500> xyr|x, FAT32 can be used on tri-os (linux, xp, and mac)
[08:47] <argument> lawine, bmp is just a better xmms isn't it?
[08:47] <gkappe> Hello, anybody have a suggestion in how to change a faulty bootsplash on dapper?
[08:47] <argument> "better" being all relative here
[08:47] <siratik000> How do you install ghostscript?
[08:47] <lillpelle> uhm, it is possible to play mp3s with rhythmbox
[08:47] <heeeelp> argument well i cant exactly rip it out and look at it....is there a console command that pulls it up?
[08:48] <rsk> lillpelle: yes
[08:48] <plastic> not only xp more like any-Win*os
[08:48] <lawine> argument: so i heard, i got told it would use by multimedai keyboard keys (but doesn't atm)
[08:48] <pau1> it is? is xmms better ?
[08:48] <lawine> argument: it does plays my mp3 well enough :)
[08:49] <lawine> pau1: xmms is like winamp
[08:49] <Crooper> xmms is the best
[08:49] <waspius> does anyone know where i can get an icon for trash which will show me when full and when empty..cause know it either shows only full or empty
[08:49] <siratik000> Is it gs-gpl?
[08:49] <sans> anyone knows what the kde base directory is?
[08:49] <Crooper> i even watch my avi's with it
[08:49] <michael003> pau1: You need to install the MP3 plugin for gstreamer. It's one of the gstreamer0.10-plugins packages
[08:49] <heeeelp> argument well i cant exactly rip it out and look at it....is there a console command that pulls it up?
[08:49] <siratik000> I've tried apt-cache search ghostscript | grep ghostscript and no straight result came up
[08:49] <holycow> does anyone know or have recommendations for SCSI raid cards that have default support in debian/ubuntu systems?
[08:49] <argument> heeeelp, why can't you?
[08:49] <siratik000> apt-get install ? , what ? = ghostscript ?
[08:50] <argument> heeeelp, have you ever opened your computer case before?
[08:50] <lillpelle> siratik000: gs instead
[08:50] <holycow> !raid
[08:50] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:50] <siratik000>  lillpelle: thanks
[08:50] <plastic> waspius, its full when there is something and its empty when not..
[08:50] <argument> heeeelp, and if so how do you know that it has DMA support :P
[08:50] <sans> kde base directory? anyone knows?
[08:50] <argument> heeeelp, maybe the DMA support that it's trying to load is corrupt, or maybe your hardware is corrupt
[08:50] <heeeelp> argument, yes-  I just built it- I have it open right now, but i can't see it lol :P  and yes, I know it has dma support because when I enable it I am able to operate my system smoothly again :)
[08:50] <TheGateKeeper> xyr|x: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=15196  repo for ntfs-3g --> deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ dapper main
[08:51] <argument> heeeelp, ok so when you do linux=nodma what happens
[08:51] <heeeelp> argument, however I can't find the source of this problem
[08:51] <heeeelp> it disables the dma.
[08:51] <bruenig> what is the printer command? I am trying to print a pdf and adobe only gives me a print to file, which I assume is postscript or a printer command but I don't know what the printer command is? I assume something /bin/something or /usr/bin/something
[08:51] <waspius> plastic: yea great tell me something i dont know...!!!
[08:51] <argument> heeeelp, i know that
[08:51] <Orasis1> Hrmm.. how can i use RAR's?
[08:51] <Orasis1> !rar
[08:51] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:51] <waspius> plastic: the problem is it only shows one status
[08:51] <heeeelp> it boots fine when I do that
[08:51] <waspius> plastic: according to the i con i choose
[08:51] <plastic> waspius, yep
[08:51] <heeeelp> but then it runs like shit
[08:52] <xyr|x> TheGateKeeper : tq ;)
[08:52] <heeeelp> and then I do the hdparm
[08:52] <heeeelp> and its fine again
[08:52] <holycow> is ubuntuforums.org related to ubuntu.com?
[08:52] <plastic> waspius, and your piont is?
[08:52] <plastic> holycow, you bet..
[08:52] <waspius> plastic: that when i put something in it it is supposed to change and show full..not show it is empty
[08:52] <bruenig> how do your print a pdf
[08:52] <bruenig> you*
[08:52] <TheGateKeeper> xyr|x: you new to linux?
[08:53] <xyr|x> TheGateKeeper : new to debian-like system.. new to linux desktop computing
[08:54] <plastic> wasauce, oh..that's the problem.. i think a little trick with Themes should work.. try to choose other one..
[08:54] <dell500> how do you format a USB-SATA drive?
[08:54] <bruenig> I guess I will just go with postscript until I can find out otherwise
[08:54] <TheGateKeeper> xyr|x: put some usefull links together here: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home what distro have you used previously?
[08:54] <xyr|x> TheGateKeeper : previous n currently,i used redhat.. for servers.. not for personalcomputing
[08:55] <dell500> !format
[08:55] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[08:55] <pebblestone> hi, which is the best way to keep ssh session alive? TCPKeepAlive or ClientAliveInterval?
[08:55] <heeeelp> yeah, I disable the DMA to boot or it hangs, and then I have to re-enable it later-  how do I track down the source of this?  IT's a Western Digital 80GB Hd....WD800 I bleieve
[08:55] <plastic> waspius, oh..that's the problem.. i think a little trick with Themes should work.. try to choose other one..
[08:55] <roxlu> whats the newest flash player plugin for firefox for ubuntu?
[08:55] <argument> heeeelp, google
[08:55] <argument> !flash roxlu
[08:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash roxlu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:55] <TheGateKeeper> xyr|x: I prefer Synaptic/apt-get to rpm based distros
[08:55] <argument> !flash > roxlu
[08:56] <heeeelp> Well, I doubt I would be in here had i not scowered the net already-
[08:56] <waspius> plastic: i have also installed crystal widows decoration...but for some reason it is not transparent..any idea on that?
[08:56] <xyr|x> TheGateKeeper : me too.. i getting used to synaptic day after day
[08:56] <Leng> How can I install ubuntu without setting a hostname and having it get its hostname via dhcp?
[08:56] <argument> heeeelp, well i can't make the assumption that you have or haven't until you've told us
[08:56] <nemesis_> hi there
[08:56] <dell500> what's the correct syntax for formatting a USB SATA drive that's 300gb? 'sudo mkdosfs -c /dev/sdc1' ??
[08:56] <nemesis_> anybody here?
[08:56] <pebblestone> anybody pls answer my question? (;
[08:56] <xyr|x> TheGateKeeper : updates made easy ;) dependencies made easier ;)
[08:56] <heeeelp> lol good point argument, I almost forgot this was a support chan  lol!
[08:57] <plastic> waspius, i heard that there is problems for transperent things with nvidia or ati video cards.. what is yours?
[08:57] <waspius> ati
[08:57] <waspius> plastic: ati
[08:57] <TheGateKeeper> xyr|x: true cool :-) having a little fling with sourcemage myself at the moment on my test box
[08:57] <nemesis_> i have some problem with xgl compiz
[08:57] <Orasis1> nemesis_: Why do you want a 3D cube as your desktop? :D
[08:58] <nemesis_> is this the good channel?
[08:58] <Orasis1> Im just curious, how is that effective
[08:58] <plastic> waspius, try to google it.. i dont realy remember about that...
[08:58] <Herbal> Nemesis, join #ubuntu-xgl
[08:58] <nemesis_> thx herbal
[08:58] <jeff303> if Firefox randomly quits, is there somewhere I can see an error log?
[08:58] <waspius> plastic: ok thanx
[08:58] <xyr|x> TheGateKeeper : after using ubuntu.. i'll definitely will try debian-ized servers at my office..
[08:59] <NickGarvey> xyr|x: :)
[08:59] <plastic> waspius, no prob..
[08:59] <heeeelp> hi, can someone help me find the root of a DMA issue?  I have to put in linux ide=nodma to fix the "mounting root filesystem" hang, and then I have to use sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda after the boot to re-enable it or my os is extremely slow!  Can someone please help me fix this?  I'm a linux newb-  so PLEASE PLEASE explain in a way I can understand.  I've used xp my whole life.
[08:59] <argument> heeeelp, please don't repeat
[08:59] <argument> heeeelp, you're probably *much* better off using the forums for that issue
[09:00] <xyr|x> TheGateKeeper : most of my servers ran on redhat EL/centos ..tired of up2date/yum
[09:00] <heeeelp> Oh, I was seeing if someone else would remotely attempt to give tech support.
[09:00] <plastic> heeeelp, ubuntu.com and search..
[09:00] <TheGateKeeper> xyr|x: don't which one is the best, ubuntu seem to be making muterings about getting into that market
[09:00] <heeeelp> plastic:  been there, done that- they dont have any documentation on this.
[09:00] <argument> heeeelp, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ <-- forums and bulletin boards and wiki's are often better resources for support
[09:00] <Orasis1> heeeelp: You should be careful, it's not too wise to invite strangers into your machines :P
[09:00] <heeeelp> seen it-  tried it
[09:00] <argument> heeeelp, as in it might take longer to get the answer but a lot of devs DO read the forums and don't care about IRC
[09:01] <plastic> heeeelp, they have docimentation on DMA
[09:01] <Yamaraj> Is i810 DRI working in Edgy?
[09:01] <heeeelp> they have it on DMA but they dont have it on my support problem
[09:01] <argument> heeeelp, so post your support problem on the forums! geez!
[09:01] <heeeelp> if they did...I wouldn't be in here lol!
[09:01] <heeeelp> argument I did
[09:01] <xyr|x> TheGateKeeper : it's all linux in general.. but the xtra fudgie wudgie that matters ;P
[09:01] <argument> heeeelp, ok, well then basically the most you can do is wait
[09:01] <argument> heeeelp, wait a few hours then try your question in here again
[09:02] <argument> heeeelp, wait a day or so then check the forum
[09:02] <heeeelp> It would seem so, by the sound of the "official ubuntu support channel"
[09:02] <TheGateKeeper> xyr|x: to true :-)
[09:03] <argument> heeeelp, support == help for people with systems that are working fairly normally. your question sounds like it needs a dev to solve it. either that or you haven't read enough about configuring DMA... one of the two
[09:03] <facugaich> I'm about to erase my Win partition and clean install over, in the same harddrive there's the ubuntu partition... any advice before I begin?
[09:03] <argument> heeeelp, *and* either way, developers tend to hang on the forums more so than IRC
[09:03] <argument> heeeelp, official support channel != official channel where the devs hang out
[09:04] <heeeelp> Argument, its a gui based os.  I shouldn't need to know that stuff lol;  and yes, I've heard your schpeel.
[09:04] <santa99> ls
[09:04] <NemesisUK> heeeelp, have you thought of using hdparm.conf to re-enable the drives dma?
[09:04] <santa99> hi guys
[09:04] <heeeelp> thanks anyway.
[09:04] <heeeelp> nemesis, no-  Im a linux newb lol
[09:04] <argument> heeeelp, no, don't confuse windows with linux
[09:04] <NemesisUK> do a search on hdparm.conf :)
[09:04] <argument> heeeelp, the attitude of "i shouldn't need to know this" is part of the issue
[09:05] <argument> heeeelp, in linux your attitude should be "i must know and understand this in and out"
[09:05] <Tarcio> hello,
[09:05] <heeeelp> nemesis, will do.  You've been infinitely more helpful in your two lines of correspondence then the last 30 minutes of responses I've gotten :)
[09:05] <NemesisUK> heeeelp, enable the service and you can enable dma for devices at boot
[09:05] <eyequeue> and i never considered linux to be a "gui based os"
[09:05] <santa99> anyboday here knows some tutorials for example network programs
[09:06] <Tarcio> the gcc is not work in ubuntu 6.06 server64
[09:06] <manmadha> santa99, ya
[09:06] <Tarcio> somebody help me?
[09:06] <rsk> Tarcio: how does it not work?
[09:06] <argument> heeeelp, except i already told you that waht you needed to do was learn more about DMA, and though NemesisUK gave you a quick idea you could have found that data on your own
[09:06] <eyequeue> !doesn't work
[09:06] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[09:06] <rsk> Tarcio: what gcc ? do gcc -v
[09:06] <Tarcio> gcc -o out out.c
[09:06] <Tarcio> OK
[09:06] <Tarcio> wait a minute
[09:07] <hid3> Evening everyone. How can I echo coloured text in bash?
[09:07] <argument> heheheh
[09:07] <Tarcio> Using built-in specs.
[09:07] <Tarcio> Target: x86_64-linux-gnu
[09:07] <Tarcio> Configured with: ../src/configure -v --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran,objc,obj-c++,treelang --prefix=/usr --enable-shared --with-system-zlib --libexecdir=/usr/lib --without-included-gettext --enable-threads=posix --enable-nls --program-suffix=-4.1 --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-libstdcxx-debug --enable-mpfr --enable-checking=release x86_64-linux-gnu
[09:07] <Tarcio> Thread model: posix
[09:07] <spoon> siratik000: apt-get install gs-gpl
[09:07] <Tarcio> gcc version 4.1.2 20060729 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-10)
[09:07] <argument> heeeelp is kinda useless to himself, so it doesn't much matter
[09:07] <eyequeue> argument, don't waste breath on those who don't want help and just want to complain, you'll live longer
[09:07] <santa99> manmadha,  could you tell me the pages you know
[09:07] <ToHellWithGA> I'm having trouble printing.  When I do a "test" page, the legible lines are "POST / HTTP/1.1\nContent-Length: 259\nContent-Type: application/ipp\nHost: 192.168.1.100\nUser-Agent: CUPS/1.2.2\nExpect: 100-continue"
[09:07] <argument> eyequeue, good idea
[09:07] <spoon> a little late...
[09:07] <ToHellWithGA> !tell tarcio about pastebin
[09:09] <dell500> can someone please help me with a formatting/partition table problem i'm having with my USB SATA (300gb)?
[09:09] <xyr|x> TheGateKeeper : after installing ntfs-3g.. any adjustments need to be made to enable full read / write xs to my other ptions?
[09:09] <JackMacOKC> whats the problem dell500
[09:09] <NemesisUK> argument, some ppl just need to be given a prode in the right direction or sometimes a good hard shove :)
[09:09] <Jack_Sparrow> xyr|x: Do you really intend to write to NTFS...
[09:10] <dell500> JackMacOKC, well i've used fdisk to make the partition table... i then use fdisk -l to see if it worked, and it didn't, but my main problem is formatting with mkdosfs but doesn't work
[09:10] <xyr|x> TheGateKeeper : just testing.. :)
[09:10] <TheGateKeeper> xyr|x: sorry never used it, so I can't comment :-(
[09:10] <santa99> manmadha, still here ?
[09:10] <derekS> does anyone have mutt + smtp setup? how are you guys doin int
[09:10] <xyr|x> TheGateKeeper : could use xtra GB's.. then can queue more torrents at my win movies partition :)
[09:11] <Warbo> Is Configuration Editor available in System Tools by default, or does it need to be enabled in Alacarte?
[09:11] <manmadha> santa99, u want the links for networking?
[09:11] <Amaranth> Warbo: that second one
[09:11] <Warbo> Amaranth: Ah, thknks
[09:11] <Warbo> *thanks
[09:11] <santa99> manmadha, yeah that would be very kind of you
[09:11] <sharperguy> how comes i cant get a better resolution than 1024x768?
[09:12] <shrift> waspius: you had any luck yet?
[09:12] <JackMacOKC> dell500, are you trying to format the drive in fat32?
[09:12] <cheesy1> heh dumb question but where are my kernel headers installed ?
[09:12] <TheGateKeeper> xyr|x: you will have the movie gestapo after you :-)
[09:12] <dell500> JackMacOKC, ya
[09:12] <h4ch3r> some use direqtcafe in ltsp-4.2:???
[09:12] <Jack_Sparrow> sharperguy: what drivers did you install on what type of video card?
[09:12] <eyequeue> cheesy1, /usr/src
[09:12] <tximas_> hi
[09:12] <tximas_> i am installing ubuntu 6.06 on my emac but when start the Xserver i dont see enything
[09:12] <xyr|x> TheGateKeeper : :D hehe.. i have only 20 GBs for ubuntu
[09:12] <sharperguy> nvidia, i have configured xorg so that 1024x768 is not even available and it still only gives me that option
[09:13] <heeeelp> NemesisUK:  I have been using the hdparm command to enable it (DMA) manually on bootup...was that what you were referring to?
[09:13] <Jack_Sparrow> sharperguy: when you type in terminal glxgears -printfps what do you get..
[09:13] <TheGateKeeper> xyr|x: bought a HDD caddy system 80Gb for windows, 200Gb for Kubuntu
[09:13] <JackMacOKC> dell500, have you looked at this http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/mkfs.vfat.8.html
[09:14] <cheesy1> eyequeue, yeah thats what i figured. install scripts says it can't find them when i point it to /usr/src/linux-headers (which is a symlink to /usr/src/linux-header-2.15.26 )
[09:14] <sharperguy> umm, wrong syntax
[09:14] <dell500> JackMacOKC, mkfs.vfat is the same as mkdosfs...
[09:14] <tximas_> i press control+alt++ or - but dont change
[09:14] <tomasz27> where do I get XGL?
[09:14] <NemesisUK> heeeelp, you can set hdparm to start at boot and setup dma on your drives using hdparm.conf you'll find it in /etc. you then set hdparm to start at boot
[09:14] <xyr|x> TheGateKeeper : haha..mine is reversed.. 240GB win.. 20GB ubuntu
[09:14] <JackMacOKC> dell500, oh yeah my bad..you said you were using mkdosfs
[09:14] <dell500> JackMacOKC, ya
[09:14] <JackMacOKC> dell500, is it giving you an error?
[09:14] <Jack_Sparrow> sharperguy: Did you install the drivers as per the help wiki here or some other way off nvidia website or automatix or easyubuntu
[09:15] <dell500> JackMacOKC, ya
[09:15] <sharperguy> automatix
[09:15] <ymlu> !tell ymlu about XGL
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about XGL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <sharperguy> it dont think thats the problem
[09:15] <JackMacOKC> dell500, what is the error?
[09:15] <sharperguy> !myself
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <dell500> JackMacOKC, mkdosfs: Will not try to make filesystem on full-disk device '/dev/sdc' (use -I if wanted)
[09:15] <shaantanu> !k3b
[09:15] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/K3BHowto
[09:15] <NemesisUK> !tell heeeelp about hdparm
[09:15] <heeeelp> sharperguy:  looking for yourself?? lol  Seek, grasshopper.
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdparm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <sharperguy> !xorg.conf
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorg.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <shaantanu> !gnomebaker
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnomebaker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <ymlu> !beer
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <heeeelp> lmao
[09:16] <heeeelp> !list
[09:16] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:16] <heeeelp> oh
[09:16] <sharperguy> !knowing stuff
[09:16] <shaantanu> !GnomeBaker
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knowing stuff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about GnomeBaker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <NemesisUK> heeeelp,  just type man hdparm.conf in a terminal
[09:16] <heeeelp> you know on some servers !list is an automatic permanent ban...
[09:16] <heeeelp> will do
[09:16] <eyequeue> ENOUGH
[09:16] <eyequeue> !msgthebot
[09:16] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[09:16] <Jack_Sparrow> sharperguy: Just for my own information, how did you install the drivers?
[09:17] <shaantanu> hey guys what shud I go for GnomeBaker or k3b
[09:17] <sharperguy> automatix
[09:17] <eyequeue> shaantanu, ubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:17] <sharperguy> i dont think its an issue however
[09:17] <NickGarvey> shaantanu: gnomebaker if you use gnome, k3b if you use kde
[09:17] <shrift> shaantanu what do you mean exactly?
[09:17] <Jack_Sparrow> sharperguy: I kinda already knew..
[09:17] <nemesis_> hi, can anybody help me with xgl and compiz?
[09:17] <NickGarvey> !xgl
[09:17] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:17] <shaantanu> ubuntu ....
[09:17] <sharperguy> ?
[09:17] <Jack_Sparrow> sharperguy: just had to admit your shame...
[09:17] <shrift> shaantanu: are you asking which program you should use?
[09:17] <sharperguy> ??
[09:17] <eyequeue> shaantanu, gnomebaker will use your gnome libs, without pulling in all the kde libs
[09:18] <shaantanu> does it really mater ... k3b will work fine on ubuntu as well
[09:18] <sharperguy> ???
[09:18] <shaantanu> ok
[09:18] <shaantanu> whats the default thats installed wid ubuntu
[09:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia > sharperguy
[09:18] <eyequeue> shaantanu, but k3b will add bloat to your system
[09:18] <shrift> shaantanu: it does really matter to some people. You need to ask a specific question.
[09:18] <bruce89> k3b looks wrong in gnome
[09:18] <shaantanu> hmm
[09:18] <shrift> shaantanu: there is no default in ubuntu. We have built in burning, it comes with gnome. Some people prefer a program though, so they get one.
[09:19] <sharperguy> I dont think it's a driver issue
[09:19] <heeeelp> damn.  none of this documentation is for newbs.  It's like a soap opera- you can never really get into it because the story started two weeks before you found the channel.
[09:19] <shaantanu> ok ... thanx
[09:19] <NickGarvey> shaantanu: I would do gnomebaker, less dependancys
[09:19] <ymlu> gtk apps look good in kde
[09:19] <dell500> JackMacOKC, any ideas?
[09:19] <Jack_Sparrow> sharperguy: what do you get for glxgears?
[09:19] <tximas_> alguien habla espaol???
[09:19] <shaantanu> thanx everybody
[09:19] <jujimufu> I do update-rc.d 915resolution start 99 defaults but it says " update-rc.d: error: expected runlevel [0-9S]  (did you forget "." ?) "
[09:19] <NemesisUK> heeeelp, pm me mate
[09:19] <eyequeue> !es > tximas_
[09:19] <shrift> shaantanu: like the others were saying though, for Ubuntu, I reccomend GnomeBaker. for Kubuntu, KD3
[09:19] <JackMacOKC> dell500, pastebin your fstab
[09:19] <sharperguy> 2311 frames in 5.1 seconds = 449.425 FPS
[09:19] <eyequeue> jujimufu, man update-rc.d, you have a syntax error
[09:19] <sharperguy> i am using xgl but not compiz
[09:20] <jikanter> Where is a good tutorial on dual booting with grub on the MBR?
[09:20] <dell500> JackMacOKC, that might be what's wrong... hmmmm
[09:20] <NickGarvey> sharperguy: I don't think.. you can do that...
[09:20] <waspius> shrift: yep it all worked fine thanx allot!!!can uremind me which packages i downloaded so i can use them if i need them in the future?
[09:20] <sharperguy> but i dont think thats an issue either
[09:20] <cpete> heeeelp: i find soap operas the opposite... no matter when u start watching someone just came out of a coma or died
[09:20] <TheGateKeeper> heeeelp: this what you are looking for? ---> Windows to Ubuntu Transition Guide:http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/917/
[09:20] <jujimufu> eyequeue: I just copy-pasted this command from an ubuntu help thread: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver
[09:20] <Jack_Sparrow> sharperguy: and what nvidi card is it... my Nvidia 6600 pci-e gives 6000 +
[09:20] <JackMacOKC> dell500, well lets start there so pastebin it and we'll look at it
[09:20] <heeeelp> jikanter:  install your second boot first, ubuntu second, it will setup grub automatically, then look up how to edit the grub list file.
[09:20] <eyequeue> jujimufu, man update-rc.d, the thread has a syntax error, in that case
[09:20] <dell500> JackMacOKC, k, one sec
[09:20] <jikanter> cool heeeelp
[09:20] <shrift> waspius: well there is really no reason to uninstall. But I think that the ones we ended up needing were kdebase-dev and xorg-dev. but I'm not 100% sure.
[09:21] <jikanter> thanks
[09:21] <manmadha> santa99, http://rapidshare.de/files/2434316/TCPIP_Illustrated_Volume_1__Addison_Wesley-1993__Richard_Stevens.chm.html
[09:21] <heeeelp> you want ubuntu on hda or it'll schitz out all the time
[09:21] <sharperguy> gforce4 mx 440
[09:21] <shrift> waspius: so you ca just leave all of those packages on your system, they will not hurt anything.
[09:21] <waspius> shrift: ok np..it just if i reinstall at some point kubuntu not to do everything from scratch
[09:22] <dell500> JackMacOKC, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20692
[09:22] <Jack_Sparrow> sharperguy: Good luck, I'd double check your driver....
[09:22] <cpete> is there a minimum suggested graphics card requirement for XGL to run smoothly?
[09:22] <waspius> shrift: the problem is though that although i installed crystal it is not transparent..and i cannot find how to change it plus my trash always shows that it is empty even though it is not
[09:23] <harisund> How do I add cpufrequency scaling applet to my Xubuntu panel/
[09:23] <JackMacOKC> dell500, which drive are we talking about? and is it an ipod?
[09:23] <ymlu> harisund: top
[09:23] <harisund> ymlu what to/
[09:23] <harisund> top?
[09:24] <brl4n> when you install a new package does is it automatically supposed to get added to the program listing?
[09:24] <ymlu> harisund: open terminal and top
[09:24] <shrift> waspius: yeah, those sound like problems to ask the developer of the theme your using. Also, I don't use KDE, sorry I have no idea.
[09:24] <brl4n> i'm trying to get network-manager-gnome to show up so I can configure WPA support
[09:24] <dell500> JackMacOKC, that's why i was like hmmmm, cause the ipod is sdc2 .... but in fdisk it says it's a 300gb sata
[09:24] <harisund> ymlu oh no, that is not what I want. What I am looking for is a way to find out at what speed my processor is running.
[09:25] <waspius> shrift: no problem u helped me lots anyway..i just need to find how to setup my firewall now and i am done i think
[09:25] <JackMacOKC> dell500, try a 'df -h' and see if it shows up there
[09:25] <dell500> JackMacOKC, nope...
[09:25] <harisund> ymlu my processor supports scaling. It can switch between 800 Mhz and 1600 Mhz. In Windows the AMD power monitor shows me that my processor runs at 800 Mhz, except when there is a sudden increase in the usage of CPU when it gets scaled to 1600 Mhz. Is Xubuntu capable of that?
[09:25] <facugaich> Windows' installer doesn't recognize the FAT32 partition I created with Gparted as valid. help?
[09:25] <ymlu> harisund: in top u see: Cpu(s):  5.0% us  1.7% sy,  0.0% ni, 81.2% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.7% si
[09:25] <jeff303> does anyone else have the problem where Firefox seems to stop accepting keyboard input on forms and the address/search boxes, etc?
[09:26] <JackMacOKC> dell500, did you create a mount point for it yet?
[09:26] <harisund> ymlu top only shows me what percentage of my cpu is being used. that's not quite the same as what speed it is running on.
[09:26] <dell500> JackMacOKC, ya, /media/usb-sata
[09:26] <ymlu> harisund: right
[09:26] <shrift> !firewall
[09:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[09:26] <harisund> ymlu utilization is one thing, processor frequency is another. I want the latter, not former ... in Gnome there was a nice applet that showed me the frequency. Looks like Xubuntu doesn't have one.
[09:26] <ymlu> harisund: i need such cpu too
[09:27] <shrift> waspius: type "!firewall" in the IRC chat here.
[09:27] <waspius> shrift: ok thanx
[09:27] <harisund> ymlu well, I am using Turion64 but 32 bit kernel. The processor scaling is primarily for battery saving.
[09:27] <waspius> !firewall
[09:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[09:27] <shrift> waspius: np.
[09:28] <JackMacOKC> dell500, try a sfdisk -l /dev/sdc
[09:28] <waspius> shrift: yes but i do not have iptables installed
[09:28] <shrift> waspius: sorry, I should have told you to type: /msg !firewall. They don't like us typing info questions right in the chat. My bad.
[09:28] <NemesisUK> heeeelp, this is what you want http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-16360.html
[09:28] <waspius> ok np
[09:29] <JackMacOKC> dell500, it might not be /dev/sdc, might try sdb or sdd
[09:29] <eyequeue> waspius, you don't?
[09:29] <dell500> JackMacOKC, says no partitions found... which i think is true because it's a new drive
[09:29] <eyequeue> !info iptables
[09:29] <ubotu> iptables: Linux kernel 2.4+ iptables administration tools. In component main, is standard. Version 1.3.3-2ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 309 kB, installed size 972 kB
[09:29] <eyequeue> waspius, it is standard
[09:29] <JackMacOKC> dell500, oh my bad..its brand new. duh
[09:30] <waspius> eyequeue: no..i think it is not..cause i tried before to find it but nothing..but wait..
[09:30] <dell500> JackMacOKC, ya, and sda and sdb are both sata drives in the comp on a raid array
[09:30] <cpete> is anyone running XGL with dual monitor? im looking for a new graphics card but I have a few limitations such as AGP 8x, 1 slot, and dual dvi
[09:30] <xyr|x> TheGateKeeper : i'm writing to my ntfs... any known hazards?
[09:30] <waspius> eyequeue: ok i have it
[09:31] <waspius> eyequeue: but i installed guarddog
[09:31] <tuxtux> ciao
[09:31] <eyequeue> waspius, i don't do kde, sorry
[09:31] <dell500> JackMacOKC, Disk /dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table
[09:32] <eyequeue> waspius, but it looks like that is a frontend
[09:32] <waspius> eyequeue: np
[09:32] <waspius> eyequeue: what is a frontend?
[09:32] <TheGateKeeper> xyr|x: used to be well dodgy, and could trash your system, what I gave you is still in beta, but Xandos are using it, and claim to be one of the few linux distro that read / write to ntfs out of the box
[09:32] <heeeelp> i.e windows, gnome
[09:32] <Skippy> hey everyone
[09:32] <TheGateKeeper> xyr|x: time will tell :-)
[09:32] <heeeelp> waspius^
[09:32] <JackMacOKC> dell500, so when you sudo fdisk /dev/sdc it wont let you create any partitions?
[09:32] <eyequeue> waspius, but it looks like guarddog is a frontend to iptables
[09:33] <dell500> JackMacOKC, I mean it does, it goes into the prompt and stuff, then i write it, and it doesn't do anything to the drive...
[09:33] <waspius> heeeelp: ??
[09:33] <JackMacOKC> hmm
[09:33] <Skippy> i just changed my resolution from 1024x768 to 1280x800
[09:33] <Skippy> but my fonts seems funny
[09:33] <Skippy> does anyone know why
[09:33] <shrift> waspius: he is saying that guarddog is a program that simply creates a nice interface for you to view what the iptables are doing.
[09:34] <dell500> JackMacOKC, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20693 this is the fdisk output at the beginning
[09:34] <JackMacOKC> dell500, you hit n to create a new partition, then w to write the partition table and its not writing it? thats weird
[09:34] <waspius> shrift: oh ok..thanx for the clarification.
[09:34] <waspius> but still dont know how exactly to configure it
[09:34] <xyr|x> gtg.. thanx guys! be back when problem comes. . . .
[09:35] <gabone> hello
[09:35] <dell500> JackMacOKC, you wanna see the process i just did with fdisk to get an idea?
[09:35] <JackMacOKC> dell500, well you're running this under sudo right?
[09:35] <shrift> waspius: you are using kde right? maybe you can find better help on the kde irc channels.
[09:35] <JackMacOKC> dell500, yeah you are...crap
[09:35] <dell500> JackMacOKC, yes
[09:36] <waspius> shrift: ok i will try thanx
[09:36] <dell500> JackMacOKC, what's wrong with that?
[09:36] <shrift> waspius: good luck!
[09:36] <waspius> shrift: thanx allot
[09:36] <JackMacOKC> dell500, no thats what you want..i'm just stumped.
[09:36] <sharperguy> chicken niggets
[09:36] <shrift> waspius: maybe youc an get more help in #ubuntu-classroom too.
[09:36] <dell500> JackMacOKC, check that pastebin again cause it went without any errors or anything
[09:36] <waspius> shrift: i will check that out also..thanx
[09:36] <dell500> JackMacOKC, it worked that time, now there is a correct partition in there of /dev/sdc1
[09:37] <JackMacOKC> dell500, yeah the output looks ok...so it worked that time? what did you do different?
[09:37] <dell500> JackMacOKC, mkdosfs is working!!!!
[09:37] <dell500> JackMacOKC, i switched from my front usb to the back usb.... wierd
[09:38] <JackMacOKC> dell500, that is weird, but common. the front usb ports on computers are usually not suplied the same power as the back
[09:38] <brl4n> i'm trying to get network-manager-gnome to show up so I can configure WPA support.  I installed it but how do I add the applet or whatever so I can actually use it.  There doesn't seem to be any documentation that explains how to get it running
[09:38] <dell500> JackMacOKC, really? cause of the voltage difference or whatever it is cause it's not accually connected to the mobo directly or something
[09:38] <michael003> brl4n: Run nm-applet
[09:39] <JackMacOKC> dell500, yes its usually connected with a connector rather than straight to the mobo, we have problems with kb/mouse all the time for the same reason
[09:39] <Skippy> does anyone know how to fix the quality of the fonts after changing resolution
[09:39] <brl4n> michael003:ok.  seems odd that it doesn't just add it automatically
[09:39] <sonicvanajr> Hi, I have a video card that is supported by the kernel, but I want to input via the component cables, not by the rf/cable adapter, does anyone know of a program that can do this ?
[09:40] <JackMacOKC> dell500, glad you got it working. sorry i'm such a dummy. we're all learning here
[09:40] <dell500> JackMacOKC, no way, you helped a lot. that's all i really needed to was someone to go through it with me :)
[09:40] <Ych> sonicvanajr: i don't think computers are capable of accepting HD (component) inputs at all....
[09:41] <Lord_Shimfs> hi
[09:41] <JackMacOKC> dell500, no problem. glad i could help
[09:41] <sonicvanajr> Ych, I used the wrong term. I just mean the normal red, yellow, white jacks
[09:41] <Lord_Shimfs> i have a little problem, i cant get my broadcom wireless card to work with my ubuntu os (im new to linux)
[09:41] <Ych> composite that would be
[09:41] <Jowi> !broadcom
[09:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:41] <sonicvanajr> Ych, thats the one !. Can I get input from that ?
[09:41] <dell500> JackMacOKC, I'll keep you in the loop to let you know what goes on with this though, I'm guessing a 300gb drive will tkae a while to format, so I'm gonna go to downtown to get some stuff done, peace and thanks a lot
[09:41] <Ych> sonicvanajr: so, you want to input a signal into your comp?
[09:42] <waspius> shrift: hey maybe you can help me with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20697 i get it when i try to make in configuration
[09:42] <sonicvanajr> Yeah, from an xbox
[09:42] <JackMacOKC> dell500, nah, should take no time at all..maybe a few minutes at the most
[09:42] <Ych> sonicvanajr: I knot its possible by hardware, i used to do it on windows, but i assume you know that
[09:42] <sonicvanajr> Hehe yeah
[09:42] <JackMacOKC> dell500, i formated 1TB on my system just last weekend and it only took a few minutes
[09:42] <brl4n> Lord_Shimfs:join the club.  it took me a while to figure out just what to do.  you gotta learn 10 things just to get it to work
[09:42] <Soulfly> Hi. i have problems with special swedish letters in licq. when I type them I get an error-message saying "Error encoding to UTF-16 form" and message sent is clipped. i've tried "LANG=xxx licq" in various forms. im running xgl. Anyone that can help?
[09:42] <dell500> JackMacOKC, alright, i'll stay around to see what happens then... wow, 1TB? shizzle
[09:42] <Ych> sonicvanajr: haven't tried it on linux yet, but i figure there should be some info on VIVO for linux on the net
[09:42] <Ych> !vivo
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vivo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <Lord_Shimfs> i know the wireless documentation, but my friend who is good at linux tells me that broadcom wireless is hard to get to work
[09:43] <Ych> too bad
[09:43] <sonicvanajr> Ych, thanks
[09:43] <Ych> well i can't help you there, sorry
[09:43] <Ych> np
[09:43] <JackMacOKC> Ych you're better getting a capture card then using vivo
[09:43] <Ych> really?
[09:43] <JackMacOKC> imo
[09:43] <Ych> i have a capture card myself, but i've also used vivo before
[09:43] <elesouef> Hi all, someone can help me with sending files to a cell phone via bluetooth using dapper ?
[09:43] <JackMacOKC> the capture cards are better suited to, well, capturing :)
[09:44] <Ych> well ok, but tell that to sonicvanajr
[09:44] <Ych> :D
[09:44] <JackMacOKC> plus the driver support is there for a lot of capture cards already..i had no problems getting my leadtek working under breezy
[09:44] <Ych> hmmm, that reminds me though, i need to try to set up my capture card sometime....
[09:44] <Ych> yeah i got a leadtek too, i might do that today...
[09:44] <Ych> !capture
[09:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about capture - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <Ych> !tv card
[09:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv card - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <JackMacOKC> mines a 2000 deluxe, and it works great in linux
[09:45] <Ych> arrgh
[09:45] <Juftus> Lord_Shimfs: Got wireless working on my laptop which has Broadcom 4318. Wasn't that bad, though I haven't edited the startup scripts yet so anytime I wanto to use wireless, I have to run 2 commands manually.
[09:45] <Ych> how'd you do it?
[09:45] <Ych> any specific program?
[09:45] <DanHowell> good evening friends
[09:45] <JackMacOKC> Ych, just chedked the forums..theres lots of people who have set it up..its no thing at all
[09:45] <Ych> ok ill google around
[09:45] <Ych> thanks
[09:45] <omong_kosong> !nm-applet
[09:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nm-applet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <Ych> !topic
[09:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <Skippy> does anyone know how to fix the fonts after changing resolution
[09:45] <Ych> ooops
[09:46] <gepatino> does anyone knows how to upload the firmware to an epson stylus?
[09:46] <gepatino> I need to print w/o cups, lp, etc?
[09:46] <DanHowell> which is the file with "nameserver 123.45.67.89" in it?
[09:46] <JackMacOKC> gepatino: probably done over usb
[09:46] <POVaddct> DanHowell: /etc/resolv.conf
[09:47] <JackMacOKC> gepatino: and probably a utility only exists for windows would be my guess
[09:47] <JackMacOKC> gapatino: which stylus?
[09:47] <gepatino> JackMacOKC: stylus c67
[09:48] <gepatino> JackMacOKC: it works ok using cups, but i need to print directly to the port
[09:48] <DanHowell> should resolv.conf have "nameserver <my router IP>" in it?
[09:48] <gepatino> JackMacOKC: and i was told that you need to upload the firmware first
[09:48] <shrift> waspius: out of curiosity, isn't there a package in the repo that you can use for kopete?
[09:48] <JackMacOKC> gepatino: i used to have a c62 that worked just fine in breezy. why do you need to direct print?
[09:49] <POVaddct> DanHowell: depends on whether your router does dns forwarding or not
[09:49] <robert_> is there a default CN=, DN= for a freshly-instaleld OpenLDAP server?
[09:49] <waspius> shrift: do u mean adept the update manager?yes but it does not find any updates
[09:49] <shrift> waspius: sorry, I think that is another question for the Developers.
[09:49] <robert_> installed*
[09:49] <JackMacOKC> gepatino: if you're trying to print direct pcl, that might require a firmware update for sure. i doubt you'll be able to do that in linux though. i imagine that epson has a utility thats windows only to update that
[09:49] <gepatino> JackMacOKC: it for a special app runing on a livecd, and its easier to open the port and write, that detecting the printer.... configurie cups, etc
[09:49] <gepatino> JackMacOKC: i need it to be totally automatic
[09:49] <shrift> waspius: no... the package. do this "sudo apt-get install kopete"
[09:50] <JackMacOKC> robert_: i dont know, but i wouldnt think so
[09:50] <shrift> waspius: or do you mean by that that youa re looking for a later version that is on the repositories?
[09:50] <LeeJunFan> anyone have any ideas how I can setup a time quote per user per day for our library? I need something that will allow a user to be able to use a workstation X minutes then notify them a couple minutes before they get logged off.
[09:50] <LeeJunFan> s/quote/quota
[09:51] <waspius> shrift: i have done that but it says i have the latest version..although i found one which is later
[09:51] <waspius> shrift: dont you know what the problem might be here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20697
[09:52] <CyDrive> can someone help me for some reason only on this computer my internet is running really slow and in some cases not allowing me to connect to servers. My apt-get function dosent work at all neither does trying to install programs through synaptic package manager
[09:53] <shrift> waspius: you found one later... wehre did you find it? On the internet? Because what the package manager is saying is thatyou have the latest version that has been packaged for your Kubuntu release version. So in other words, the version packaged for kubuntu is what you have, However, out in the world somewhere, the people that write the kopete software are still working and realeasing new versions. That new version has not been imported to Kubuntu yet,
[09:53] <shrift> however.
[09:53] <waspius> shrift: i found it on the kopete webpage
[09:54] <shrift> waspius: yes, then that is a version of the software that has not yet been packaged for Kubuntu.
[09:54] <Lane> I am in need of medical err...computer assistance: when I use p0f I recieve this error:[-]  ERROR: pcap_open_live failed: socket: Operation not permitted
[09:54] <waspius> shrift: ok but how can i install it?
[09:54] <Lane> Is that a firewall deal?
[09:54] <waspius> shrift: by compiling it!so all i need is to solve the problem right?
[09:55] <shrift> waspius: you do not need to compile it fortunately. On their site they have a binary all prepared for Ubuntu Dapper. Use this link to get it: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/kopete/kopete_0.12-beta1-dapper-1_i386.deb
[09:55] <alex-weej> anyone managed to get flashplayer plugin working in epiphany in ubuntu edgy?
[09:55] <waspius> shrift: thanx..i dont understand though why i get these problems when trying to compile..what can be the fault to all this?
[09:55] <shrift> waspius: hmmm looks like that is the same version as is on Ubuntu.
[09:56] <DanHowell> resolv.conf has "nameserver <my router IP>" in it. My router has no DNS options that I can see.
[09:56] <sahal> i am running xubuntu.  i installed easyubuntu.  totem used to play videos now it doesn't.  it gives error "Could not get/set settings from/on resource."
[09:57] <Ych> !xgl
[09:57] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:57] <DanHowell> resolv.conf only has "nameserver <my router IP>" in it. My router has no DNS options that I can see. My browser is working DNS out properly, as is ping. Nothing else seems to be.
[09:58] <Lane> Does anyone know what this means? when I use p0f I recieve this error:[-]  ERROR: pcap_open_live failed: socket: Operation not permitted
[09:58] <NemesisUK> DanHowell, check out you host providers help pages for their dns server addresses
[09:59] <Ych> what is better to use, Xgl or AIGLX? considering i have dual monitors...
[09:59] <POVaddct> DanHowell: which is not working with dns for example?
[10:00] <shrift> waspius: this is the deal. In Ubuntu/Kubuntu etc, we have people that take software programs from other developers in the world, Like Gnome, Firefox, KDE, Kopete, and they compile them to work specifically on Ubuntu/Kubuntu. However, they only compile a certain version of it at a time. So we end up with a "stable" version of the software for Ubuntu. Meanwhile in the world people are still writing new software, but we cannot just introduce that into our S
[10:00] <shrift> table Ubuntu without causing problems. Therefore that new software doesn't get in until the next release of Ubuntu.
[10:00] <waspius> shrift: ok i understand..can u tell me what make and clean make have as a difference?
[10:01] <shadeofgrey> hey does anybody here know lots about smart phone cell phones?
[10:01] <EGLN|BF2|Miniman> helloo!
[10:01] <EGLN|BF2|Miniman> Anyone alive
[10:02] <shrift> waspius: ok and so then the trouble with compiling. when you try to compile something it calls all of these dependencies. Dependencies are other packages and libraries taht contain information taht your current package wants. When that dependency is not installed, your package complains when you try to compile it.
[10:02] <waspius> shrift: ok i get that
[10:02] <shrift> waspius: so the compiling process goes like this, the ./configure command checks your system to make sure it has all of the dependencies, and then the "make" command prepares the actual files for install
[10:03] <waspius> shrift: ok
[10:03] <omong_kosong> infobash
[10:03] <shrift> waspius: "make clean" removes the changes that "make" made to the files, in case you need to start over.
[10:03] <omong_kosong> !infobash
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about infobash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <waspius> shrift: ok got it..thanx allot allot:)
[10:04] <shrift> waspius: after that, I reccomend using "checkinstall" to install the program, because this makes the file into a .deb instead of using "make install" because make install just puts the files on the system without using our package manager.
[10:04] <heeeelp> does anyone know how to set up hdparm.conf?
[10:05] <shrift> waspius: so what you should do when trying to compile something is go to the developer's website and look for a list of dependencies that you need to have installed.
[10:05] <bigb> i need help, my screen seems to freeze during a milisecond once per second(even in desktop), so i can't play games
[10:05] <NemesisUK> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-16360.html heeeelp
[10:05] <shrift> waspius: and keep in mind that when you are looking for those depencencies in the repositories, you need the -dev version of them.
[10:05] <waspius> shrift: ok..thanx...by the way checkinstall command is not found
[10:05] <heeeelp> NemesisUK, what were you referring to with the 'session' screen?!?
[10:06] <NemesisUK> heeeelp, doesnt matter would mean creating a script and the link i sent you is simpler
[10:07] <robert_> where is slapd.conf under 6.06?
[10:07] <bigb> i need help, my screen seems to freeze during a milisecond once per second(even in desktop), so i can't play games
[10:07] <heeeelp> k
[10:07] <shrift> waspius: sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[10:07] <looktj> finally
[10:07] <shrift> waspius: here is the info and dependencies you need for compiling kopete: http://kopete.kde.org/buildtips.php
[10:08] <looktj> i got my wireless to work on the internet
[10:08] <waspius> shrift: ok thanx..sorry for all this mess
[10:08] <shrift> waspius: no problem, there is a definite learning curve to compiling. I am glad to help. I remember being frustrated learning it all myself.
[10:08] <brl4n> i installed updates and now ubuntu won't boot
[10:10] <Toge> how can I convert avi(dvix/xvid) to DVD (.vob, .ifo)?
[10:10] <Toge> do you know some program?
[10:10] <rsk> mencoder
[10:11] <bobby> I am having a difficult with the Ubuntu Installer
[10:11] <Toge> does mencoder have GUI?
[10:11] <NemesisUK> Toge, k3b or mencoder
[10:11] <Stegozor> Hi everyone, I'm new to ubuntu and hav e some questions : my default mail application is Thunderbird, but when I right click on a file on my desktop and then choose to send it, only evolution is suggested, I can't choose TB. What should I do to get TB that way?
[10:11] <Toge> I cant convert with K3b, only record
[10:12] <zzaza> hi all
[10:12] <bobby> How can i fix the ubuntu installer erroring "non-ubuntu cd detected"?
[10:13] <NemesisUK> Toge, http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/AVI_to_DVD check that out
[10:14] <DanHowell> I am trying to edit /etc/resolv.conf as root, and it's insisting it's read only
[10:14] <Jowi> Stegozor: http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/cat-fileproc.php (see "send file as email attachment - Thunderbird" script). don't ask me how to install it. i don't have nautilus here :)
[10:14] <digital__> How do I install all of open office? I just installed XUbuntu and it didn't come with it.
[10:14] <rsk> digital__: with synaptic
[10:15] <digital__> rsk: yes with synaptic. Is there a package that installes all of open office
[10:15] <yonasb> how can I generate pdf file out of sgml file?
[10:15] <POVaddct> DanHowell: ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[10:15] <digital__> rsk: Or do I have to select all of them
[10:15] <Stegozor> Jowi : thanks. I also would like to replace the default application to play music from Totem to VLC. Where & how can I do that?
[10:16] <Jowi> Stegozor: there should be a "default applications" setting in gnome somewhere. I also don't use gnome atm
[10:16] <compilerwriter> hello there.
[10:16] <bruce89> for xfce - sudo aptitude install openoffice.org-gtk
[10:16] <DanHowell> POV: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23 2006-08-13 23:52 /etc/resolv.conf
[10:16] <Noah0504> Good day to all.
[10:16] <POVaddct> DanHowell: then it is writable for root
[10:16] <bruce89> !info openoffice.org-gtk
[10:16] <ubotu> Package openofficeorg-gtk does not exist in dapper
[10:17] <NemesisUK> Stegozor, right click on the media file goto open with and select your app from there
[10:17] <Stegozor> yeah, there's a default applications setting, but only for terminal web and mail, nothing else. Somewhat strange, in windows such things are much easier
[10:17] <DanHowell> POV: so just gedit /etc/resolv.conf?
[10:17] <plastic> Noah0504, Or good night to someone.. ;-)
[10:17] <compilerwriter> I have a quick question.  I just installed Ubuntu on my PC   and love it, but am not sure if there is already a skype program installed or if I need to go get one?
[10:17] <POVaddct> DanHowell: if you are root, yes
[10:17] <Jowi> !skype
[10:17] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[10:17] <DanHowell> still read only.
[10:17] <hbi> hey i have a problem once i get from the kubuntu load screen no login screen appears only the kbuntu load screen how can i fix it?
[10:17] <NemesisUK> compilerwriter, do you have ekiga installed
[10:17] <digital__> Do I want the gtk version of open office or just the x version
[10:17] <Stegozor> NemesisUK : that's what I'm doing, but as Totem doesn't want to play mp3 files, I'd like to replace it with VLC on the top of the contextual menu
[10:18] <compilerwriter> I am not sure but will go look.
[10:18] <POVaddct> DanHowell: are you root on the shell from where you start gedit?
[10:18] <JackMacOKC> digital: gtk
[10:18] <Noah0504> plastic: I'll include both next time.
[10:18] <Noah0504> :)
[10:18] <bruce89> DanHowell, gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[10:18] <DanHowell> POV: yep, prompt is root@my-computer
[10:18] <digital__> JackMacOKC: OK
[10:18] <plastic> Noah0504, NICE :)
[10:18] <POVaddct> DanHowell: what is the output of: id
[10:18] <hbi> any1 got any ideas for me?
[10:18] <Stegozor> compilerwriter : give wengophone a try, it's open source (GPL).
[10:18] <Stegozor> from synaptic
[10:18] <ych> !xgl
[10:18] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:19] <DanHowell> POV: uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[10:19] <POVaddct> DanHowell: hmm, then the file must be on a filesystem that is mounted read-only
[10:19] <NemesisUK> Stegozor, if it not in the list use properties-open with add and then add vlc to the list
[10:19] <DanHowell> ?
[10:19] <NemesisUK> *its
[10:20] <POVaddct> DanHowell: can you do this: cp /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf.BAK
[10:20] <Stegozor> NemesisUK : it was exactly what I was looking for, thank you :)
[10:21] <DanHowell> POV: yes, that worked
[10:21] <NemesisUK> Stegozor, np :)
[10:22] <disastorm> hi
[10:22] <hbi> hey i have a problem once i get from the kubuntu load screen no login screen appears only the kbuntu load screen how can i fix it?
[10:22] <DanHowell> POV: what's the next step?
[10:22] <POVaddct> DanHowell: can you use another editor? do you have mcedit?
[10:22] <disastorm> hi i installed the ubuntu ati drivers and they worked but then i installed ati drivers and i got only 150 fps on glxgears so i tried to reinstall the other drivers but im still getting 150 fps
[10:23] <NemesisUK> DanHowell, use nano -w /etc/resolv.conf
[10:23] <heeeelp> actually, NemesisUK I just realized that the nodma is required whether I'm mounting my hard drive OR my cdrom for a live boot.  Would that mean that the problem is more likely to be a motherboard/BIOS problem?????
[10:23] <Squisher> Hi, my dapper system now always stops at checking filesystems, jumps the text mode console and won't continue until I press CTRL-C... anyone know why?
[10:23] <POVaddct> NemesisUK: i wonder why gedit tell him it is read-only
[10:23] <NemesisUK> heeeelp, sounds like a bios issue or maybe the mobo, check for a newer bios
[10:24] <NemesisUK> POVaddct, it's strange for sure
[10:24] <disastorm> hi i installed the ubuntu ati drivers and they worked but then i installed ati drivers and i got only 150 fps on glxgears so i tried to reinstall the other drivers but im still getting 150 fps
[10:24] <jrib> how can I logout of gnome without using the menu entry in the panel?
[10:24] <heeeelp> NemesisUK:  I dont think the RS480 Bios is supported anymore, is it??  I've googled the shit out of it
[10:24] <DanHowell> POV: still not getting permission
[10:24] <NemesisUK> heeeelp, got a full mobo model name and number
[10:24] <DanHowell> bigger problem. looks like my entire filesystem is read only
[10:24] <heeeelp> brb
[10:25] <Lord_Shimfs> it makes me cry that i cant get my damn boardcom internal wlan card to work on ubuntu :(
[10:25] <POVaddct> DanHowell: if you just want to put in one line in the file, you can also use this: echo "namserver 1.2.3.4" > /etc/resolv.conf
[10:25] <POVaddct> DanHowell: correction: echo "nameserver 1.2.3.4" > /etc/resolv.conf
[10:25] <hbi> fuck ill have to reinstall
[10:25] <hbi> ooh sorry
[10:25] <hbi> swore
[10:26] <h4ch3r> hbi: 66
[10:26] <h4ch3r> 
[10:26] <hbi> 66?
[10:26] <disastorm> hi i installed the ubuntu ati drivers and they worked but then i installed ati drivers and i got only 150 fps on glxgears so i tried to reinstall the other drivers but im still getting 150 fps
[10:26] <Daishi> so i was editing kopt= in /boot/grub/menu.1st and then ran update-grub and it removed the changes
[10:26] <NemesisUK> disastorm, how fast was other 3d stuff tho
[10:27] <disastorm> i dunno i havnt run other 3d stuff but before i got 2000 or 3000 fps on glxgears
[10:27] <hbi> can anyone tellme how to fix the fact that my splash screen doesnt come up so i cnat login
[10:27] <NemesisUK> disastorm, did you run fgl_glxgears
[10:27] <Stegozor> how can I set Thunberbird to send files when I right click on them and then choose send to? What do you use, Evolution or something else for that?
[10:27] <disastorm> oh
[10:27] <disastorm> hold on let me try
[10:27] <DanHowell> permission to alter denied
[10:27] <disastorm> maybe thats what i ran before
[10:27] <Jowi> Stegozor: I just gave you a link a few minutes ago
[10:28] <disastorm> oh wait
[10:28] <cyfr> Hello PLEASE could someone tell me how to reset the alsamixer settings to default? My sound sounds like shit and I dont know what ive done because theres so many options!!
[10:28] <disastorm> it gives me a floating point exception
[10:28] <POVaddct> DanHowell: you are certainly NOT root in the shell from where you try this
[10:28] <Stegozor> Jowi I know, but I couldn't manage to install it.  So before suffering more, I hoped that a softer way existed... :/
[10:28] <disastorm> i get a floating point exception
[10:28] <NemesisUK> disastorm, i'd uninstall fglrx drivers and reinstall em cause it shouldnt be doing that
[10:28] <Jowi> Stegozor: ah :)
[10:28] <Jowi> night all.
[10:28] <heeeelp> NemesisUK: RS480-M Rev: 1
[10:28] <disastorm> how do i do that
[10:29] <Stegozor> Right now I'm playing with gconf, and I think I'll end up with a big mistake soon
[10:29] <hbi> can anyone tellme how to fix the fact that my splash screen doesnt come up so i cnat login!!!!
[10:29] <egkamp> hello, I'm trying to install over a windows xp using the Live CD, but it is *slow*, taking over an hour to display the desktop, and clicking "Install" icon has taken over 20 minutes to open a window, which is still trying to fill the language selection...is there still a non-live installation CD? where to get the iso? any help is appreciated!
[10:29] <NemesisUK> heeeelp, what bios version do you have now? is it lover that 1.2c
[10:30] <NemesisUK> *lower
[10:30] <DanHowell> POV: root@Dan-Laptop:~# echo "nameserver 212.159.13.49" > /etc/resolv.conf
[10:30] <DanHowell> bash: /etc/resolv.conf: Permission denied
[10:30] <Flannel> egkamp: the alternate CD
[10:30] <cyfr> Hello PLEASE could someone tell me how to reset the alsamixer settings to default? My sound sounds like shit and I dont know what ive done because theres so many options!!
[10:30] <disastorm> how do i do uninstall and reinstall fglrx drivers
[10:30] <egkamp> Flannel: thanks, I saw that but wasn't sure if it wasn't overkill for a simple desktop install
[10:31] <POVaddct> DanHowell: btw, how did you become root? by sudo -s ?
[10:31] <NemesisUK> disastorm, sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx and then sudo rm -rf /usr/src/fglrx*
[10:31] <DanHowell> POV; yeah
[10:31] <Flannel> egkamp: yeah, its an installer for the desktop, without a liveCD, textmode installer.  The extra flexibility it allows stems from not using the liveCD instller
[10:31] <NemesisUK> disastorm, then use the drivers from ati, if you have any problems pm me :)
[10:31] <POVaddct> DanHowell: hmmm, i'm getting out of ideas
[10:32] <NemesisUK> DanHowell, try sudo nano -w /etc/resolv.conf
[10:32] <disastorm> after those 2 commands i follow the walkthrough for the ati drivers?
[10:32] <egkamp> flannel: am wget-ing it now :-) again, thanks!
[10:32] <NemesisUK> disastorm, yup
[10:32] <disastorm> ok
[10:32] <Stegozor> Another question : on synaptic, latest version of OPen Office is 2.0.2 but on the website 2.0.3. Same for Firefox, synaptic 1.5.0.5, web 1.5.0
[10:32] <cyfr> Does nobody know how to reset the sound? I thouht it would be something simple
[10:32] <POVaddct> NemesisUK: if even shell redirection doesn't work, why should nano?
[10:32] <Stegozor> I mean 1.5.0.6
[10:32] <iturk> hi there !! i am getting Cannot open device /dev/wacom No such file or directory when running the xserver ?? what can it be the problem ??
[10:33] <Lamego> Stegozor, ubuntu only applies security and other minor fixes after the release
[10:33] <NemesisUK> POVaddct, it's the sudo part im interested in seeing what it does for him in root
[10:33] <POVaddct> NemesisUK: ah okay
[10:33] <NemesisUK> POVaddct, out of interest and all
[10:34] <h4ch3r> some use the Ubuntu edgy eft 6.10 ?
[10:34] <Stegozor> Lamego : so to get latest versions I should directly download the packages myself?
[10:34] <cyfr> *cries*
[10:34] <Lamego> Steggy, yes, or hope they get into the ubuntu backports, and add the backports repository to your list
[10:34] <rkd> Stegozor: check out the ubuntu backports, i think this is what they're for
[10:34] <Flannel> h4ch3r: not yet.  Its still really unstable.  you can go to #ubuntu+1 for help and support, if you need it
[10:34] <h4ch3r> Flannel:
[10:34] <h4ch3r> thanks guy
[10:34] <DanHowell> POV: still getting Permission Denied messages, as root
[10:34] <h4ch3r> ;-)
[10:35] <NemesisUK> DanHowell, can you do ls -l /etc/resolv.conf again for us
[10:35] <NemesisUK> DanHowell, and post the output I missed it last time
[10:36] <cyfr> Hello PLEASE could someone tell me how to reset the alsamixer settings to default? My sound sounds like shit and I dont know what ive done because theres so many options!!
[10:36] <hbi> can anyone tellme how to fix the fact that my splash screen doesnt come up so i cnat login!!!!
[10:36] <looktj> Ctrl+F7?
[10:36] <Lamego> hbi, switch to the text console with CLTR-ALT-F1
[10:36] <doublehp> how can I upgrade to firefox 1.5 ?
[10:36] <DanHowell> POV: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23 2006-08-13 23:52 /etc/resolv.conf
[10:37] <Lamego> hbi, then type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:37] <cyfr> Anyone? :'(
[10:37] <looktj> Ctrl+Alt+F7
[10:37] <hbi> thanks lamgo
[10:37] <doublehp> cyfr: nobody
[10:37] <hbi> Lamego,
[10:37] <cyfr> :(
[10:37] <treitter> does anyone know if/how sshd automatically handles rsync connections?
[10:37] <cyfr> Ah well back to windows xp :p
[10:37] <Flannel> doublehp: youre using breezy?
[10:37] <treitter> most importantly, how would I configure the rsync part of it?
[10:38] <h4ch3r> Flannel:
[10:38] <POVaddct> DanHowell: which version of ubuntu do you run?
[10:38] <Lamego> treitter, it does if you use the ssh command on the rsync options
[10:38] <cyfr> Seems sad that I have to go use xp... ubuntu support used to be amazing :(
[10:38] <NemesisUK> DanHowell, , you tried from your user accnt with sudo?
[10:38] <treitter> Lamego: you mean if I use user@host:/path/to/files syntax?
[10:38] <Lamego> treitter, it is the way around sshd does not support the rsync protocol, rsync does support using ssh
[10:38] <DanHowell> POV: just went over to 6.06
[10:38] <DanHowell> POV: yes, that too
[10:39] <Down_II> does anyone know how to get back into dapper after adjusting screen resolution in xorg i think and then dapper restarting and only going into text version
[10:39] <POVaddct> DanHowell: do you have a separate partition for /etc ?
[10:39] <DanHowell> POV: no.
[10:39] <waspius> shrift: thanx allot for everything good night
[10:40] <Lamego> Down_II, reconfigure your X Server with  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:40] <compengi> how to limit disc space per user
[10:40] <NemesisUK> DanHowell, can you delete the file with rm -rf and then create it again from scratch
[10:40] <shrift> waspius: np, hope you have happy compiling, bye!
[10:40] <cyfr> Hello PLEASE could someone tell me how to reset the alsamixer settings to default? My sound sounds like shit and I dont know what ive done because theres so many options!!
[10:40] <Lamego> compengi, sudo apt-get install quota && man quota
[10:41] <Lamego> cyfr, please do not repeat
[10:41] <compengi> Lamego, is it what i want?
[10:41] <cyfr> Someone please answer then :( its so simple and ive been trying days
[10:41] <DanHowell> POV: Operation not permitted, as root
[10:41] <Lamego> compengi, that installats quota support, you will need to read the manul to understand how to use it
[10:41] <Flannel> !tell cyfr about patience
[10:41] <iturk> i have the Wacom input driver installed in the xorg !! but when i do startx i get Xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom No such file or directory !! What can it be the problem ??
[10:42] <POVaddct> DanHowell: Operation not permitted is not the same as Permission denied
[10:42] <Lamego> cyfr, because it is not so simple, there is no one answering, repeating will not get you better results
[10:42] <cyfr> I have no patience after days. I'd rather install windows where I know how to reset sound settings :|
[10:42] <rattboi> I have a non-ubuntu-specific question
[10:42] <DanHowell> POV: right
[10:42] <NemesisUK> DanHowell, has you hostname got messed up somehow, cause I had a similar prob with ubuntu when that happened to me
[10:43] <Flannel> Eh, cyfr.  That was more about 'no one knows at the moment, keep asking (although not every 5 minutes as you have been) and eventually you'll hit someone who knows the answer.  In the meantime, google, and check the forums (and maybe post in them)
[10:43] <coopster> cyfr, look in google, it is a simple question, and googling "alsamixer restore default" should do the trick.
[10:43] <mr> question, does ubuntu breezy badger come with ndiswrapper on it
[10:43] <POVaddct> DanHowell: lsattr /etc/resolv.conf
[10:43] <Flannel> mr: yes
[10:43] <rattboi> I want to set up a cross-compiler so I can compile x86 linux apps from ppc ubuntu
[10:43] <DanHowell> POV: ----i------------ /etc/resolv.conf
[10:43] <ych> how do i move around the cube in XGL by default?
[10:43] <Flannel> rattboi: gcc can do that
[10:43] <POVaddct> DanHowell: ha! some dumbass set it immutable
[10:44] <rattboi> Flannel: yeah, but there's no package, right?
[10:44] <POVaddct> DanHowell: chattr -i /etc/resolv.conf
[10:44] <mr> allright then how come ndiswrapper command is not found
[10:44] <Flannel> rattboi: package?
[10:44] <rattboi> so I'll have to compile my own x86-gcc or something?
[10:44] <Flannel> rattboi: no, use PPC gcc, and specify a target arch
[10:44] <Flannel> mr: it's in universe, if I remember correctly
[10:44] <mr> flannel: what does that mean
[10:45] <rattboi> Flannel: no, that can't be right
[10:45] <Flannel> ych: ctrl (or alt) click and drag the desktop.  #ubuntu-xgl for XGL support
[10:45] <rattboi> I mean, not if that arch isn't compiled into my version of gcc
[10:45] <Flannel> rattboi: why can't it?
[10:45] <gudalo> hi all
[10:45] <Flannel> !tell mr about repositories
[10:45] <treitter> Lamego: thanks!
[10:45] <Lamego> rattboi, you dont need an i386 compiler to generate i386 code
[10:45] <DanHowell> POV: ok, that worked
[10:46] <rattboi> Lamego: I know that
[10:46] <DanHowell> going to try something, back shortly
[10:46] <POVaddct> DanHowell: it should be writable now
[10:46] <mr> all i'm saying is when i type ndiswrapper -i filename.inf it tells me the command is not found
[10:46] <rattboi> but doing "apt-get install build-essential" won't let me build x86 stuff
[10:46] <Flannel> mr: right, you need to install ndiswrapper first
[10:46] <rattboi> I need x86 targetted binutils and gcc
[10:46] <adam> hello?
[10:46] <mr> flannel: why didn' you say so
[10:46] <adam> good I can speak.
[10:46] <DanHowell> I think that worked
[10:46] <Flannel> rattboi: build-essential contains gcc
[10:47] <rattboi> but the ppc version isn't targetted to x86
[10:47] <DanHowell> POV: will that change next time I log in?
[10:47] <mr> flannel: so its on there but i have to install it, how do i do that
[10:47] <POVaddct> DanHowell: yes. i really wonder who or what set the file attributes to +i
[10:47] <POVaddct> DanHowell: i don't know if it is set on reboot
[10:48] <DanHowell> POV: I know who did it, and there was a good reason which I can't recall right now
[10:48] <NemesisUK> DanHowell, resolv.conf will be set a boot if your using dhcp
[10:48] <ptley> hello, anyone have familiarity getting evdev/gunzets to work in xorg?
[10:48] <Lamego> maybe it was a bad way to deny dhcp from changing the dns list ?
[10:48] <adam> can anyone convert the Myspace IM client for windows to work with Ubuntu?  I have a .msie executable at http://adamfitch.com/fileserv/install_flash_player.exe which I would like to work on my Ubuntu PC.
[10:48] <rattboi> so nobody knows?
[10:48] <hbi> back i got into ubuntu
[10:48] <Lamego> rattboi, not me :P
[10:49] <POVaddct> NemesisUK: but dhcp surely wouldn't set attr +i for the file
[10:49] <hbi> but i cant edit my login window
[10:49] <Drako60> i need some help guys
[10:49] <Lamego> adam, try running it with wine
[10:49] <adam> Lamego:  good tip
[10:49] <NemesisUK> Lamego, maybe POVaddct nope it wouldnt
[10:49] <hbi> i go to open and it says something about kde conflicting
[10:49] <Orasis1> What kind of feed is "ITPC"?
[10:49] <inv_Arp> any lnks to switching desktops...  I have xfce4/kde
[10:49] <cyfr> coopster: I tried googling it. The restore command just restores settings which i've already set, I want them to be how they were when I first installed ubuntu
[10:49] <adam> Lamego:  do you know the easiest way for me to open the WINE application?
[10:49] <Lamego> adam, wine file.exe
[10:49] <h4ch3r> i see guys
[10:49] <NemesisUK> POVaddct, lets put it down to user error :)
[10:49] <Lamego> after installing it with: sudo apt-get install wine
[10:49] <POVaddct> NemesisUK: yes :)
[10:50] <adam> Lamego:  what is the easiest way I can reach the command prompt through the GNOME desktop?
[10:50] <DanHowell> POV, Nemesis; yes, file under PEBCAK
[10:50] <Drako60> i did a dist-upgrade to dapper and i can not boot to the new kernel, i've tried various boot flags but it will not mount the root file system
[10:50] <Lamego> adam, ALT-F2, type wine file.exe
[10:50] <adam> Lamego:  Gracias Amigo.
[10:50] <doublehp> Lamego: STOP : he wants to install FLASH ! how the hell do youe xpect wine to help installing MS applications in / ?
[10:50] <Lamego> adam, install wine from the synpatic package manager
[10:50] <NemesisUK> DanHowell, lol
[10:50] <Flannel> !tell mr about ndiswrapper
[10:50] <Lamego> doublehp, not he does not, he wants to install a windows flash based IM client
[10:51] <Flannel> mr: read the link ubotu sent you
[10:51] <Lamego> at least that was what he requested
[10:51] <adam> doublehp:  but only through wine
[10:51] <k31th> anyone used ispconfig ?
[10:51] <POVaddct> DanHowell: at least we found it. thanks to qemu i could play around with chattr in my to-be-f*cked-up system :)
[10:51] <Lamego> ops, the file seems to be the flash player
[10:51] <mr> thank you
[10:52] <Flannel> rattboi: google 'cross compile gcc', its doable.  I don't know why you think it isnt
[10:52] <POVaddct> DanHowell: :o)
[10:52] <ptley> anyone know a good knowledge base for getting touchscreens to work with xorg
[10:52] <Lamego> adam, erm, is that a windows program you are tring to run ? I mean the target program, not the flash player
[10:52] <NewUbuntuUser> how do you get to the x-server configuration wizard (command line) to fix the screen resolutions
[10:52] <Lamego> NewUbuntuUser, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:52] <DanHowell> ok; back to the original problem. how do I persuade this machine that it's a laptop?
[10:53] <eternalswd> does anyone know how to issue xchat commands via the terminal.  I'd like to write a script that another program uses to automate sending a message to a specific channel.
[10:53] <POVaddct> DanHowell: huh?
[10:53] <Lamego> eternalswd, this channel is not for help with xchat scripting :)
[10:54] <disastorm> hi UK guy it still didnt work
[10:54] <djcabz> ssh -Y -l root 172.28.96.55
[10:54] <didinux> DanHowell: sudo laptop_mode
[10:54] <djcabz> hmmm...
[10:54] <eternalswd> Lamego, you know somewhere I can go for assistance?
[10:54] <djcabz> sometimes ya gotta look when ya type.
[10:54] <Lamego> xchat channel ?
[10:54] <NemesisUK> disastorm, what gpu is it
[10:54] <mr> flannel: problem, it says i have to download ndiswrapper, however the computer i have ubuntu on has no internet connection
[10:54] <inv_Arp> any lnks to switching desktops...  I have xfce4/kde
[10:54] <DanHowell> dj: abled, not active [unchanged] .
[10:54] <DanHowell> that's _disabled_
[10:54] <shaantanu> hi everyone : while trying to configure PLS repository, I screwed up my source.list and now my installers wont work . Plz help
[10:54] <NewUbuntuUser> what was that command again?
[10:55] <disastorm> hey nemesis i got the non-ati drivers to work again and i got 3k fps on glxgears but the fgl_glxgears still gave me pointer exception
[10:55] <Drako60> does no one know why i can't boot kernel 2.6.15.24-K8 64-bit?
[10:55] <Flannel> mr: you'll need to download the deb (packages.ubuntu.com) and then sneakernet it over and use dpkg -i to install it
[10:55] <disastorm> but right now i tried the manual ati ones and it brought it back down to 100 fps on glxgears again
[10:55] <disastorm> and fgl_glxgears still gives me the exception
[10:55] <Flannel> shaantanu: just put the source list back to how it was, and then sudo apt-get update
[10:55] <ych> help! my window borders disappeared
[10:55] <eternalswd> Lamego, I checked their site and I couldn't find one.
[10:55] <disastorm> i have radeon 9500
[10:55] <shaantanu> how do i put it back
[10:55] <NewUbuntuUser> what was the command to get to the x-server config wizard ?
[10:55] <POVaddct> ych: probably your window manager crashed
[10:56] <ych> i installed xgl, and now im back to gnome, but lost my window borders
[10:56] <disastorm> what exactly is fgl_glxgears?
[10:56] <Warbo> ych: Try running "metacity --replace"
[10:56] <disastorm> is that like opengl or something
[10:56] <NemesisUK> disastorm, your not getting them install properly I  have a 9500 running fine with them pm me and I'll talk you thru what I did
[10:56] <eternalswd> nevermind, there's one on this server.
[10:56] <Flannel> shaantanu: yeah, comment out everything you added
[10:56] <disastorm> how can i pm
[10:56] <ych> thanks
[10:56] <ych> worked
[10:56] <shaantanu> i added thru synaptic
[10:56] <shaantanu> so i dont know what i added
[10:56] <Lamego> shaantanu, you can generate one at http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:56] <disastorm> did u get that
[10:57] <shaantanu> how do i add the PLS repository ??
[10:57] <DanHowell> dj: sudo laptop_mode gives me: disabled, not active [unchanged] .
[10:57] <Warbo> shaantanu: You mean PLF?
[10:57] <shaantanu> ya sorry
[10:57] <NewUbuntuUser> what's the command to get to the x-server reconfiguration wizard ?
[10:57] <NemesisUK> disastorm, you registered your nick in here?
[10:57] <Warbo> shaantanu: System>Admin>Software Properties, and bear with me....
[10:57] <Herbal> today i tried to add transparent backround to xchat and it BROKE...it wont load now...anyone know why
[10:57] <jrib> NewUbuntuUser: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:57] <disastorm> no
[10:57] <Kjohnview> hi all
[10:57] <Lamego> NewUbuntuUser, I have already told you, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:57] <grogoreo> hi
[10:58] <disastorm> i dont think so
[10:58] <disastorm> unless i did it a long time ago
[10:58] <grogoreo> I want to reinstall MySQL, how can I do this with apt?
[10:58] <NemesisUK> disastorm, register then you can pm me
[10:58] <disastorm> ok
[10:58] <michael003> DanHowell: AFAIK, it only activates laptop-mode when running on battery.
[10:58] <Lamego> DanHowell, check /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf
[10:58] <sparkling> hi all
[10:58] <NemesisUK> !tell disastorm register
[10:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell disastorm register - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <DanHowell> michael: in that case, why is the laptop fan stopping every few minutes, only coming back when I tap the mousepad?
[10:59] <Warbo> shaantanu: OK, "Add">"Custom" and put in "deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free"
[10:59] <interbird> Hi, I downloaded the 2.6.15 ubuntu kernel sources but they are version 2.6.15-7 and not -23 or -26 -- correct ?
[10:59] <NemesisUK> !tell disastorm about register
[10:59] <NemesisUK> damn
[10:59] <Warbo> interbird: The sources don't have minor version numbers, just 2.6.15
[10:59] <adam> Lamego: I have Add Applications open, how might I learn how to install WINE from here?
[11:00] <didinux> DanHowell: sudo apt-get install laptop-mode laptop-mode-tools
[11:00] <didinux> DanHowell: sudo laptop_mode
[11:00] <Lamego> Intangir, to install the current  version use: sudo apt-get install linux-source
[11:00] <didinux> DanHowell: sudo laptop_mode start
[11:00] <sparkling> i'm trying to install postfix and qpopper, with postfix all ok..but i don't understand how i can start qpopper...
[11:00] <doublehp> how can I upgrade to firefox 1.5 ?
[11:00] <Lamego> adam, could you rewrite your question ? The program you have mentioned is the flash player. There is a flash player for linux
[11:00] <sparkling> i've installed with apt-get but i don't find any command to start it
[11:00] <Warbo> doublehp: Get Dapper, it is probably easiest
[11:00] <sparkling> anyone can help me?
[11:00] <michael003> DanHowell: My bad, that's not the problem. Just checked mine and it is enabled.
[11:01] <DanHowell> ok
[11:01] <Flannel> doublehp: are you on breezy? (again)
[11:01] <Lamego> sparkling, there should be a script on /etc/init.d for it, unless it runs from inetd
[11:01] <DanHowell> didi: disabled, not active (unchanged)
[11:01] <interbird> Warbo: I have a 2.6.15.7 tarball -- .7 is a minor number, not ? -- I would like to get the sources to build 2.6.15.26
[11:01] <Warbo> sparkling: Try "sudo dpkg -L qpopper" which will list the files installed by it, then look for stuff in "/usr/bin"
[11:01] <Ozux> hi, I want to use Qemu and tune It works in Debian Sarge but not in ubuntu  (maybe)  I try: modprobe tun then I try ifconfig tun0 192.168.0.1 up but it get some errors like:SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[11:02] <sparkling> in init.d there isn't ...then i've installed xinetd but how i can run it with inetd or xinetd?
[11:02] <doublehp> Flannel: did not see previous "?" : /etc/apt/sources.list says "deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted"
[11:02] <didinux> DanHowell: have u done this cmd apt-get install laptop-mode ?
[11:02] <gfxstyler> hi
[11:02] <gfxstyler> does someone use xgl in here?
[11:02] <Flannel> doublehp: yeah, youre on breezy.  You have two options, upgrade to dapper, or install 1.5 on breezy.
[11:02] <sparkling> Warbo, /usr/sbin/in.qpopper can be it?
[11:02] <Lamego> sparkleytone, xineted is a service, it should be started with /etc/init.d/xinetd start
[11:02] <Flannel> gfxstyler: #ubuntu-xgl for XGL related support
[11:02] <DanHowell> didi: excellent!
[11:02] <DanHowell> qa'pla
[11:03] <gfxstyler> Flannel:  thanks
[11:03] <didinux> DanHowell: pleasure :)
[11:03] <Flannel> !tell doublehp about firefox
[11:03] <Warbo> interbird: I think the minor versions for the linux-image packages are just different options, patches, etc. selected when compiling the generic linux-source package. Since you are compiling your own kernel anyway you may as well use all of the latest patches, so the linux-source is always the newest
[11:03] <Flannel> doublehp: that has instructions on installing 1.5 on breezy
[11:03] <DanHowell> right. well, I've installed laptop-mode
[11:03] <Warbo> sparkling: I don't know, try it (I think sbin folders are only used by sudo)
[11:03] <adam> !tell adam about flash player
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <DanHowell> but it's still not starting when I sudo laptop-mode start
[11:03] <sparkling> Lamego, Starting internet superserver: xinetd is it correct?
[11:03] <adam> !tell adam about flash
[11:03] <adam> !tell adam about wine
[11:04] <Warbo> interbird: If you are after the source because a driver says you need it, then just get linux-headers instead
[11:04] <sparkling> Lamego, also after that command the port 110 is close
[11:04] <adam> Lamego:  how may I upgrade my flash to v9 in linux?
[11:04] <Lamego> Spec, yes, and no, you can't launch the qpoper with in.qopper thats to be ued by inetd
[11:04] <Lamego> i meant, sparkling
[11:04] <interbird> Warbo: Ubuntu tweaks the kernel, so a stock kernel is of no use -- I'm looking for the Ubuntu 2.6.15-26 sources -- the ones in the repository say they are -7
[11:04] <Warbo> adam: Get Wine, get Windows Firefox, install it in Wine then go to a Flash site and install th plugin
[11:04] <Lamego> sparkling, check your xinetd.conf the service needs to be enabled their
[11:04] <Spec> Lamego: thanks for that information
[11:05] <adam> Warbo:  thank you.
[11:05] <sparkling> Lamego, xinetd.conf is empty
[11:05] <Tinned_Tuna> can Ubuntu 6.06.1 mount/read ntfs drives?
[11:05] <Warbo> interbird: They cannot be equivalent to a linux-image-2.6.15-7 because Ubutn uhas never used such a kernel
[11:05] <inv_Arp> how can i switch between desktops...  I have xfce4/kde
[11:05] <Lamego> wait, let me install qpopper here to follow up with you
[11:05] <POVaddct> Tinned_Tuna: read yes, write no
[11:05] <Flannel> Tinned_Tuna: no, not safely.  Just read.
[11:05] <Tinned_Tuna> because my friend is having trouble mounting it
[11:05] <ydnar_> what possible causes would i have the ubuntu startup sound, but not be able to listen to mp3s and other system sounds?
[11:05] <cyfr> Hello please can someone help me restore the default settings of alsamixer from when I first installed dapper. I have serached the forums and I have searched google and due to these particular key words meaning different things the problem is not easy to find an answer to on google. I know it must be a simple command or config file so please can someone just tell me.. x
[11:05] <Warbo> !mount > Tinned_Tuna
[11:05] <adam> ydnar_:  speaker out
[11:06] <interbird> Warbo: See for your self -- they the makefile states -7
[11:06] <ydnar_> adam, what do i need to do to fix that?
[11:06] <didinux> DanHowell: any errors notices ?
[11:06] <drezha> lol - was about to ask about updating but it's all sorted now
[11:07] <Warbo> interbird: Think about it this way: Ubuntu's first 2.6.15 kernel was 2.6.18, so 7 updates later we have 2.6.15-26, correct?
[11:07] <DanHowell> well, I've been able to start it now. Let's see how the next few minutes go
[11:07] <didinux> DanHowell: okay
[11:07] <Khamael> does 64-bit ubuntu run 32-bit apps?
[11:07] <Lamego> sparkleytone, did an install here, qpopper is working on 110
[11:07] <Warbo> (well, about)
[11:07] <interbird> Warbo: 2.6.15 != 2.6.18 -- I guess you mean 2.6.15-18
[11:08] <Lamego> i have apt-installed qpopper and xinetd
[11:08] <Warbo> Khamael: Yes, but it may take a little extra work
[11:08] <Warbo> Oh yeah, oops
[11:08] <Lamego> OK Qpopper (version 4.0.5) at lamego-desktop starting.
[11:08] <Khamael> Warbo: so it is still work to be done to make it work for "joe user"
[11:08] <Khamael> ?
[11:08] <drezha> how do I add a program to run on startup but have it work in it's own folder in Home?
[11:09] <interbird> Warbo: The repository say: linux-source-2.6.15-26, but the makefile says it's -7
[11:09] <Lamego> Dracon, you mean a program ran by a regular user ?
[11:09] <Lamego> drezha,
[11:09] <drezha> yeah
[11:09] <Warbo> Khamael: I don't know, I think they work fine, it's just that specific x86 stuff is not in Synaptic's x86_64 repositories, so they must be downloaded an installed manually (in fact, the same way as Windows users do. And people say that is perfect for "joe user")
[11:09] <Lamego> sparkling, i do have an /etc/inetd.conf
[11:10] <sparkling> me too and it's not empty
[11:10] <Lamego> Khamael, it does not, unless you setup a 32 bits chroot
[11:10] <sparkling> pop-3		stream	tcp	nowait	root	/usr/sbin/tcpd	/usr/sbin/in.qpopper -f /etc/qpopper.conf
[11:10] <Lamego> well, i have installed both inetd and xinetd
[11:10] <sparkling> Lamego,
[11:10] <inv_Arp> how can i switch between desktops... ?   I have xfce4/kde
[11:10] <ignorantcow> Hi, booting the livecd gives me a kernel panic? http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9130/dsc01008bs6.gif
[11:10] <Lamego> then removed both, and just installed xinetd
[11:10] <DanHowell> hm. looking good, now
[11:11] <interbird> What is the current kernel for Ubuntu please ?
[11:11] <Khamael> Lamego: if I do that, and install things manually, how does that affect the users on my system?
[11:11] <inv_Arp> ignorantcow: overclock / heated processor? bad mem..
[11:12] <Khamael> Lamego and Warbo: is 64-bit faster/better?
[11:12] <Lamego> Khamael, there are some tutorials on how to do it, i dont use 64 bits myself, I guess you would need to setup links to the 32 bit apps
[11:12] <Warbo> Khamael: It probably isn't noticable in day to day use
[11:12] <Lamego> Khamael, it should, if you are running 64 bits apps, not if you are running 32 bits
[11:12] <ignorantcow> inv_Arp: wow, that sounds bad. I did have a problem with a burnt motherboard a while ago that I replaced, but I've not oc'ed anything.
[11:13] <Lamego> Khamael, there is some software which is not available for 64 bits
[11:13] <Khamael> Lamego: like cedega?
[11:13] <Warbo> You can either make a 32bit install and chroot it, then link to the chrooted system, or use linux32 which keeps 32bit versions of libraries and stuff seperate so 32bit and 64bit can run together in harmony
[11:13] <Lamego> and the flash player
[11:13] <sparkling> i've tried to restart inetd and xinetd but port 110 is close...
[11:14] <Warbo> Khamael: Take a look on help.ubuntu.com/community and see if you think it's worth it
[11:14] <Lamego> sparkleytone, remove xinetd, and install inetd
[11:14] <Khamael> seems like the best thing to do is wait for things to work, before I go for 64-bit
[11:14] <DanHowell> thank you all
[11:14] <Lamego> Khamael, if you dont want to spend much time resolving problems or setting up a mixed environment, 32 bits is the best option
[11:16] <Khamael> Lamego: are the ubuntu devs working on making 64-bit easier? and is it better?
[11:16] <sparkling> ohhhhhh finally thanks Lamego
[11:16] <lch> hey, is it possible to localize even the boot messages that you see during startup?
[11:16] <sparkling> unistalled xinetd and reinstalled inetd
[11:16] <sparkling> now is all ok
[11:16] <sparkling> thanks
[11:16] <sethk> Khamael, no, it isn't better.  It is a different platform
[11:17] <sethk> Khamael, for some apps you'll get a performance improvement
[11:17] <Warbo> Khamael: 32bit/64bit systems should be seamless by Edgy+1 I think
[11:17] <sethk> Khamael, but that improvement is small.
[11:17] <Warbo> (on x86 architecture)
[11:17] <meez> hey, anyone know the name of the partitioner that comes with ubuntu? :o
[11:17] <meez> (preferbly gui)
[11:17] <Warbo> !gparted
[11:17] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[11:17] <meez> thank
[11:18] <Khamael> sethk: so there is no point in changing?
[11:18] <sparkling> now there is the last problem...i've installed postfix and configured as internet site and installed qpopper, how i can try to send emails and receive it?
[11:18] <sparkling> Lamego,
[11:18] <Stegozor> another newbie question : why control alt del doesn't work on Ubuntu ? what sequence should I press to get a window as in windows so I can kill an unresponsive application?
[11:18] <MTecknology> I am running vncserver on a fresh install of kubuntu (lan port on wireless), I am trying to connect with my laptop (on wireless) - when I try to connect vncviewer will not even ask me for a password and tell me the connection has been refused. Any tips?
[11:19] <MTecknology> my laptop is Ubuntu
[11:19] <Lamego> Khamael, ubuntu 64 is just easy as 32 bits, the harder part is with proprietary applications, like the flash player, cedega, etc
[11:19] <jrib> Stegozor: system > administration > system monitor
[11:19] <Warbo> Stegozor: Alt-F2>"gnome-system-monitor" (or find it in System>Administration)
[11:19] <Bazzi> !info neverball
[11:19] <ubotu> neverball: 3D arcade games: neverball & neverputt. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 158 kB, installed size 468 kB
[11:19] <POVaddct> neverball rocks
[11:19] <sethk> Khamael,  Lamego is correct, you are dealing with a lack of available pieces, there is nothing inherently harder in 64 bit.
[11:19] <Khamael> Lamego: I use both. so I guess I`ll have to wait
[11:20] <Lamego> sparkling, you need to install an email client :) ?
[11:20] <sparkling> already done
[11:20] <sparkling> i've also a dynamic dns configured
[11:20] <Lamego> sparkleytone, so just set it up to use localhost
[11:20] <Phenax> Khamael: Well take the time to ditch your addiction to those horrible applications :)
[11:20] <Lamego> for both sending and receiving
[11:20] <sparkling> mmm ok trying
[11:20] <connyosis> is there a text based bootup manager for ubuntu?
[11:21] <Stegozor> jrib : yes but sometimes everything becomes frozen, so I can't click on menus and so on. I need a control alt del "hot" reset.
[11:21] <Warbo> connyosis: "man update-rc.d"
[11:21] <Lamego> sparkling, for sending you can just use the "echo test | sendmail email"
[11:21] <jrib> Stegozor: well ctrl-alt-backspace should restart X for you, if that's what you want
[11:21] <sparkling> for the moment i need only to receive
[11:21] <Lamego> then you would check if it is received on the unix mailbox
[11:21] <connyosis> Warbo: cool thanks
[11:21] <Lamego> and just then, check it with a POP client
[11:21] <Stegozor> testing
[11:21] <sparkling> so the problema is: what is the mail account?
[11:21] <sparkling> how i can create new accounts?
[11:22] <inv_Arp> sparkling: useradd
[11:22] <sethk> sparkling, it is the user name
[11:22] <Lamego> sparkleytone, system user names and the domain you have provided when installing postfix
[11:22] <sparkling> useradd to add a normal ubuntu user?
[11:22] <Khamael> Phenax: is cedega horrible?
[11:22] <sparkling> mmm ok
[11:22] <Lamego> sparkling, yes
[11:22] <Phenax> Khamael: Yep
[11:22] <Khamael> Phenax: flash too? lots of fun flash files out there
[11:22] <sparkling> so my user working with postfix yet?
[11:22] <Lamego> sparkling, you should add it with a null shell if you only want to give him an email account
[11:22] <sparkling> so also my user working with postfix yet?
[11:23] <Lamego> sparkling, it should be working
[11:23] <Phenax> Khamael: Yep, I don't like either. Cedega ripped off Wine, still promising to release newer versions of those code (Yeah right), and many companies don't make Linux ports because Cedega says they run it fine and it's not needed
[11:23] <Lamego> locally, to work from the internet, you will need to have a DNS record for it
[11:23] <godzirra> Anyone have issues using the perl CPAN module with dapper?
[11:23] <sethk> sparkling, you may have to set up a mailbox.  there is an easy way to find out, try sending an email
[11:23] <sparkling> mmm seems don't work
[11:23] <Phenax> Flashplayer people don't take the time to give even remotely up-to-date versions for UNIX users and have already gained license incompatibilities with FreeBSD
[11:23] <godzirra> I did a completel reinstall of my system and now everytime I do perl -MCPAN -e 'install module' it fails with a bad makefile.PL return.
[11:24] <Warbo> I have no problem with Cedega, since they HAVE to work in the way they do, and if not then many people would still be using Windows.
[11:24] <sparkling> wait i try to reconfigure postfix
[11:24] <Lamego> sparkleytone, echo "This is a test" | sendmail youruser@yourdomain
[11:24] <dirtdawg> Xubuntu Rules! I am finding this out as we speak
[11:24] <Lamego> Check /var/log/mail.log
[11:24] <Phenax> Warbo: If you want a stable interface into Windows, use a processor emulator. If you want to play games choose out of the many native ones UNIX has.
[11:25] <Phenax> Or try WINE, it works fine for just about every game Cedega works for.
[11:25] <Warbo> Phenax: I don't play games. It's just that Transgaming needs a license to legally circumvent copy protection, so therefore they have to pass that cost on
[11:25] <lch> hey, is it possible to localize even the boot messages that you see during startup and shutdown of the system?
[11:25] <Khamael> Phenax: I see what you mean. but when I want to rund linux and play Guild Wars at the same time, what choice do I have? I don`t want dual boot
[11:25] <Phenax> Khamael: Try using WINE atleast.
[11:26] <Warbo> lch: You could always edit the files in /etc/init.d with a superuser text editor (gksudo gedit for instance)
[11:26] <sparkling> ok i've reconfigured postfix with smarthost
[11:26] <rupert> I can't seem to get network-manager to recognize my wireless connection, what do I have to do to make it realize its there?
[11:26] <sparkling> now i try to access to pop3 account of my user
[11:26] <Lamego> lch, those strings are hardcoded at /etc/init.d/mysql
[11:26] <Phenax> Warbo: Well, they shouldn't have ripped a FOSS project, I wouldn't care if they didn't.
[11:26] <Lamego> sparkling, uh ?
[11:26] <Phenax> And everygame considered being ported to Linux Cedega says "Oh, it works perfect here, no need for a port!" and they don't.
[11:26] <Lamego> smarthost ? to setup a local mail server ?
[11:27] <sparkling> ok now it seems to work
[11:27] <Warbo> Phenax: Either a) They don't use WINE, then there is no point doing it and many people would be without their games, or b) They do, they make their code available, then get shut down by the RIAA or whoever
[11:27] <sparkling> i can check mails with my user
[11:27] <Lamego> ok
[11:27] <sparkling> is not a local mail server Lamego
[11:27] <lch> thanks Warbo, Lamego
[11:27] <sparkling> i want to receive email from out
[11:27] <Phenax> Warbo: No, there code was available for a while, and CVS builds should remain available but they don't release them because so many people were just grabbing the CVS
[11:27] <khobar> hello can i have one lame question?
[11:27] <Phenax> Warbo: They ripped off WINE, fair and straight.
[11:27] <sethk> sparkling, yes, that doesn't mean it's not a local mail server
[11:28] <aschimedes> hi guys
[11:28] <sparkling> oh ok
[11:28] <aschimedes> do you know xsupplicant?
[11:28] <Khamael> Phenax: cedega does better than loki did
[11:28] <khobar> so can I  ? :P
[11:28] <Lamego> khobar, ask
[11:28] <sparkling> however now the pop3 protocol works
[11:28] <Warbo> Phenax: WINE developers recommend it to users, so I don't think they are too miffed
[11:28] <adminx> hello room
[11:28] <sparkling> now i try to send an email and receiv it trough internet
[11:28] <sethk> khobar, ask your question, don't ask whether you can ask your question
[11:28] <khobar> I just installed apache ...and tried to change chmod for /var/www
[11:28] <Phenax> Warbo: Well that's their opinion, not mine. Cedega is horrible.
[11:28] <khobar> did accidentaly chmod  -rwx
[11:29] <Warbo> Phenax: I agree, that's why I don't use it. The end
[11:29] <sethk> khobar, ok
[11:29] <khobar> and now i can't change it to +rwx
[11:29] <Lamego> khobar, sudo chmod
[11:29] <wifiworks> ls | cat | gedit
[11:29] <aschimedes> nobody knows xsupplicant?
[11:29] <sethk> khobar, did you use   sudo chmod +rwx /var/www  ?
[11:29] <wifiworks> how can i make that work
[11:29] <wifiworks> ls | cat | gedit
[11:29] <wifiworks> put the ls into gedit
[11:29] <khobar> well i was triyng sudo chmod /var/www +rwx :P
[11:29] <jeff_> What channel should I ask wine questions in??
[11:29] <lch> I even found https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/localized-startup now... I really can't understand why they are holding back on this
[11:30] <khobar> is it a big diferance?
[11:30] <Phenax> wifiworks: ls > file.txt && gedit file.txt
[11:30] <yasso> ahjaaaaaaaaaa
[11:30] <Warbo> wifiworks: cat `ls` < gedit?
[11:30] <yasso> deutsch?
[11:30] <wifiworks> Phenax: ok fair enough
[11:30] <Lamego> khobar, next time, man chmod
[11:30] <yasso> wow.. who are the people here?
[11:30] <sparkling> is it possible to see postfix status when i send an email to it?
[11:30] <Warbo> oh wait: gedit < cat `ls`
[11:30] <yasso> where do you come from..
[11:30] <Stegozor> yeah, control alt backspace works fine, thanks
[11:31] <yasso> ???
[11:31] <yasso> h??
[11:31] <khobar> when i typed chmod +rwx /var/www he said that i can't do it :P
[11:31] <wifiworks> Phenax: how about ls > file.txt && gedit file.txt && rm file.txt
[11:31] <khobar> that i don\t have authority
[11:31] <POVaddct> yasso: this is an international channel
[11:31] <Warbo> !sudo > khobar
[11:31] <yasso> ahh thx (=
[11:31] <POVaddct> yasso: and we do speak english here
[11:31] <Phenax> ls | gedit  might do it
[11:31] <khobar> oh..sorry forgot about it
[11:31] <Phenax> I don't use gedit but the few editors I use support piping to it
[11:31] <Warbo> I think he wants the contents of the files
[11:31] <wifiworks> nup
[11:31] <tarraballo> spanish please??
[11:31] <khobar> thx a lot
[11:31] <jeff_> How can I force a window to close?
[11:32] <yasso> aha and you are talking about  linux and ubunte the whole day ???
[11:32] <Phenax> ls | cat * | gedit
[11:32] <Warbo> "cat * >> file && gedit file"
[11:32] <Phenax> ls | cat * | gedit   -> Works fine in my text editor
[11:32] <Warbo> yasso: Look at the topic
[11:32] <POVaddct> yasso: if you have a ubuntu question, just ask
[11:32] <bruce89> jeff_, force quit, it's a panel applet
[11:33] <adminx> kill
[11:33] <wifiworks> ~$ ls | vim
[11:33] <wifiworks> Vim: Warning: Input is not from a terminal
[11:33] <wifiworks> Vim: Error reading input, exiting...
[11:33] <wifiworks> Vim: preserving files...
[11:33] <wifiworks> Vim: Finished.
[11:33] <wifiworks> ^[[>1;1202;0c
[11:33] <wifiworks> :(
[11:33] <Warbo> !paste > wifiworks
[11:33] <wifiworks> Phenax: oh cool
[11:33] <wifiworks> ill try the *
[11:33] <Phenax> wifiworks: I use GNU Nano
[11:33] <dubious> does anybody know any useful references for learning the terminal for a newb?
[11:33] <jeff_> bruce89: how do I know which # to kill?
[11:34] <yasso> oh i habev a  quetion and noone can help me becouse they all have windows.. i think you know scype.. but my PC didnt. allow scype.. and it it allways an arroe.. y ?
[11:34] <yasso> my english is verry bad XD
[11:34] <Phenax> Skype
[11:34] <POVaddct> yasso: i don't use skype
[11:34] <wifiworks> Warbo: sorry so anoying pastebing little 3 liners though
[11:34] <wifiworks> but  ok
[11:34] <yasso> F***-... ok .. thx ^^
[11:35] <Warbo> 6 lines.....
[11:35] <POVaddct> yasso: there is skype for linux i think. but i never tried it.
[11:35] <khobar> hmm ok one last question and I'm gone
[11:35] <NemesisUK> yasso, your english isn't that bad you've got swearing down quite well ;)
[11:35] <khobar> how to change the default apache directory
[11:35] <Lamego> dubious, help.unbuntu.com
[11:35] <Warbo> Skype works on Linux, but it's sound can be dodgy (OSS I think)
[11:36] <slimz> hi im on a winxp machine, and i would like to vnc to my ubuntu box, but i cant figure out how to find out the ip address of the machine on my network, does anyone know the command in command prompt to find it/
[11:36] <slimz> ?
[11:36] <khobar> what shall i do to have all those files not in /var/www but for example in /home/khobar/www ?
[11:36] <Phenax> Warbo: The newer Skype's use ALSA or OSS, and OSS is quite fine
[11:36] <amonkey> is there a trick to getting networkmanager to play with ndiswrapper?
[11:36] <POVaddct> NemesisUK: and he is impatient like most of the clueless newbies
[11:36] <bruce89> !skype
[11:36] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[11:36] <Khamael> does wine support 64-bit?
[11:36] <Phenax> Khamael: WINE should run fine on x86_64
[11:36] <bruce89> Kgamael, no
[11:36] <Lamego> khobar, , edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[11:36] <Warbo> I have bad experiences with OSS (making Flash movies in Moho and testing them in Epiphany. Two OSS apps together can be bad)
[11:36] <NemesisUK> POVaddct, why try linux if your impatatient?
[11:36] <Okto> slimz, use /sbin/ifconfig
[11:36] <phxheat> hi, i just did a fresh install of ubuntu regular, ... what apt-get command do i run to install the ubuntu server packages?
[11:37] <bruce89> an AMD64 version of wine is not in the repos
[11:37] <adminx> yep ifconfig
[11:37] <Phenax> bruce89: That doesn't mean that it doesn't work, does it?
[11:37] <Khamael> Phenax: ok. is there an easy way to change from 32-bit to 64-bit? or do I need a full reinstall?
[11:37] <bruce89> but I suppose you could compile it yourself, not sure if it works though
[11:37] <khobar> thx Lamego will try that :] 
[11:37] <Phenax> Khamael: There's not really an 'easy' way
[11:37] <bruce89> you'll have to reinstall, AFAIK
[11:37] <Warbo> Khamael: Wine will not build for 64bit, but linux32 should run 32bit Wine (eff-all Windows programs are 64bit, so there is no point making Wine 64bit)
[11:37] <Lamego> phxheat, there is no such thing as "server packages", if you need the LAMP stack, install apache2 mysql-server php5
[11:37] <phxheat> lamego, ok thanks
[11:37] <TylerE> Can you setup LVM using the default iso?
[11:38] <Warbo> TylerE: Maybe with CLI, but you will not be able to install onto it. You can do it with the alternat CD easily
[11:38] <Lamego> Khamael, full reinstall, but you could keep the /home on a differente partition to make the change easier
[11:38] <Phenax> Warbo: There is a point on making WINE x86_64, to allow people with an x86_64 OS to use it. Anyways it can be ran fine with emul-* libraries/etc no need for linux32
[11:38] <Raziekiel> Does ubuntu work fine with 64 bit and dual core?
[11:39] <Warbo> Phenax: What I am saying is that compiling Wine for 64bit would be pointless, so just make it available like any other 32bit app on 64bit
[11:39] <finalbeta> How do I run multiple instances of totem?
[11:39] <jeff_> How can I find the PID of a window???
[11:39] <adminx> Should see it as a standard SMP system
[11:39] <corpxicle_> hello
[11:39] <Lamego> jeff_, if you know the program name, you can look for it with "ps -ef | grep -i program"
[11:39] <viveknz76> hi
[11:39] <corpxicle_> im having some problems
[11:40] <corpxicle_> after messing around a lot with windowmanagers, suddenly theres no sound =P
[11:40] <Warbo> The problem with x86_64 is the lack of a standard way of installing 32bit apps (like dpkg)
[11:40] <jordanau> how do you find your local ip address?
[11:40] <viveknz76> I am having problems seeing network devices in network manager
[11:40] <jeff_> Lamego, what if you don't know the program name?
[11:40] <Warbo> jordanau: ifconfig
[11:40] <corpxicle_> amarok seems to think there is a output device
[11:40] <viveknz76> can anyone help??
[11:40] <corpxicle_> but theres no sonud
[11:40] <wifiworks> Phenax: ls > file.txt && gedit file.txt && rm file.txt does the job with anything ill stick with it
[11:40] <Lamego> jeff_, you are doomed :)
[11:40] <Phenax> Warbo: That's an Ubuntu-specific problem really. :] 
[11:40] <POVaddct> jordanau: ifconfig
[11:40] <Ambimom> corpxicle, I'm having sound issues too
[11:41] <Warbo> Phenax: That's what I meant :)
[11:41] <corpxicle_> Ambimom: but it worked 5 minutes ago =)
[11:41] <Phenax> Anyways, why would anyone want to run an x86 program on x86_64 operating system when 95% are x86_64-compliant?
[11:41] <Ambimom> I know...check your systems preferences sound
[11:41] <wifiworks> !wifi
[11:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:41] <Ambimom> corpxicle check your system preferences sound...what does it say?
[11:41] <wifiworks> !mouse
[11:41] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[11:41] <jordanau> how about your ip that is outside of the local network?
[11:41] <Warbo> Phenax: I assure you that 90% of the problems people have with 64bit Ubuntu is not GIMP
[11:42] <Phenax> Warbo: GIMP works fine on x86_64 here?
[11:42] <corpxicle_> Ambimom: check what ?
[11:42] <viveknz76> Can someone help me with the network devices in network manager?  I am unable to see them in network manager
[11:42] <Ambimom> Dapper seems to have sound bugs
[11:42] <wifiworks> wiki is slow
[11:42] <Phenax> Warbo: I don't use, and never have used Ubuntu, but every application I've tried works fine here
[11:42] <Warbo> Phenax: I mean the 5% of 32bit-only apps are the cause of 90% of the problems :)
[11:42] <POVaddct> jordanau: you mean if your machine is behind a nat gateway and you want to know the official ip of the nat gateway?
[11:42] <Warbo> (GIMP is not tied to 32bit, so nobody has a problem with it)
[11:43] <Khamael> wine won`t run Guild Wars. at least not without more tweaking
[11:43] <Phenax> ndiswrapper or whatnot can get 32-bit flash working on 64-bit browser perfectly :)
[11:43] <Raziekiel> jordanau, showmyip.com?
[11:43] <Warbo> ndiswrapper is only for wifi drivers isn't it?
[11:43] <jordanau> POVaddct, yes
[11:43] <Phenax> well, I don't know the actual name, ndis*
[11:43] <rsk> Warbo: no it works for other stuff to
[11:43] <slimz> hi im on a winxp machine, and i would like to vnc to my ubuntu box, but i cant figure out how to find out the ip address of the machine on my network, does anyone know the command in command prompt to find it?
[11:43] <Phenax> ndis-something
[11:43] <jordanau> is there a way in linux other than myip.com?
[11:43] <rsk> jordanau: ifconfig
[11:44] <finalbeta> How do I run multiple instances of totem?
[11:44] <mnepton> slimz: ifconfig
[11:44] <Warbo> OK, useful to know. I have a RaLink Wifi card though (I put "wifi pci linux" into ebay :) )
[11:44] <Phenax> jordanau: No, it'd be VERY hard to obtain your WAN Ip from your operating system without an external address
[11:44] <WillyWortel> slimz, on yor ubuntu-machine use command  /sbin/ifconfig
[11:44] <POVaddct> jordanau: you could connect to some website that is telling your ip address etc.
[11:44] <slimz> mnepton : thanks
[11:44] <jordanau> great thanks
[11:44] <mnepton> POVaddct: won't work behind a NAT
[11:44] <NemesisUK> slimz, cant you connect by hosname?
[11:45] <NemesisUK> *hostname
[11:45] <slimz> WillyWortel : is there any way i can keep the ip address on my ubuntu machine always the same? it always changes
[11:45] <jordanau> trying to figure out how to access my vnc server from outside the network, i wish they made a portable vnc client for flash drives
[11:45] <Warbo> finalbeta: Try "man totem"
[11:45] <slimz> NemesisUK: no, i didnt know i can do that. how do i find out the hostname?
[11:45] <mnepton> ugh ... why am i working now?
[11:45] <POVaddct> mnepton: of course it works. the web server sees the ip adress of the nat gateway.
[11:45] <sethk> slimz, yes, but you have to coordinate with your DHCP server so that the one you use is never assigned to another machine
[11:45] <finalbeta> Warbo , something usefull please
[11:45] <NemesisUK> slimz, the name you gave the machine when you installed it
[11:45] <mnepton> POVaddct: right, and if the ports aren;t forwarded etc etc they will not be able to connect from outside.
[11:46] <viveknz76> any help would be appreciated... please help with the network devices not showing up in network manager
[11:46] <WillyWortel> slimz, your using a dhcp-adress wich you possibkle get from your router or a DHCP-server ( if you got one). You have to use a static IP-adres
[11:46] <mnepton> ennyhoo, i'm off until my shift begins
[11:46] <slimz> NemesisUK: oh, i dont even remember what ic alled it :)
[11:46] <POVaddct> mnepton: he said nothing about connecting from the outside
[11:46] <interbird> So, there is no way to compile the current kernel from source ?
[11:47] <NemesisUK> slimz, as WillyWortel said give the ubuntu box a static ip would make life a lot easier
[11:47] <POVaddct> jordanau: oh, i missed the bit with connecting via vnc
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> interbird: you compile kernels if you want to, there are Howto's on the ubuntu forums
[11:48] <jordanau> POVaddct, would i be better off getting a dyndns name for my computer?
[11:48] <azureal> hi, is there a way to display all the colors that your terminal is using?  (i.e., show what color0, color1, etc. are assigned to?)
[11:48] <interbird> TheGateKeeper: You don't understand my probbie, i guess...
[11:49] <ych> !apt-get
[11:49] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:49] <POVaddct> jordanau: if you are behind a nat gateway you will need port forwarding on the gateway, regardless of using dyndns
[11:49] <ICE> grr having problems with nxserver
[11:49] <viveknz76> ??
[11:49] <TheGateKeeper> interbird: being a bit optimistic arn't you :-)
[11:49] <jordanau> POVaddct, already forwarded by router ports
[11:49] <rattboi> do all the debian tools work on ubuntu?
[11:50] <Lamego> jordanau, you can only forward to that comput if it was setup with a static ip
[11:50] <POVaddct> jordanau: why use vnc? it's too much bandwidth and it's not encrypted. use ssh instead.
[11:50] <ICE> does anyone have freenx
[11:50] <ICE> maybe could help me
[11:50] <rattboi> there's a few build tools I'm not familiar with
[11:50] <rattboi> like tpkg-install-libc
[11:50] <interbird> TheGateKeeper: Can you explain that ? -- Would I be optimistic to want to comiple the latest ubuntu kernel ?
[11:50] <jordanau> POVaddct, i just want to be able to access my home folder from my school library nothing more
[11:51] <POVaddct> jordanau: you can't transfer files with vnc
[11:51] <Lamego> rattboi, not necessarily
[11:51] <ICE> !freenx
[11:51] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[11:51] <TheGateKeeper> no you would be optimistic if you thought I understood your problem :-)
[11:51] <POVaddct> jordanau: vnc is just for remote desktop
[11:51] <rattboi> Lamego: I found a debian guide for setting up a cross-compiler
[11:51] <rattboi> http://people.debian.org/~debacle/cross/
[11:52] <Lamego> jordanau, whatever you want to do you will need to use a static IP to get to that system from the internet
[11:52] <rattboi> but I'm not sure if it will fully work on Ubunut
[11:52] <Daishi> erm what ubuntu repo has w32codecs and libdvdcss? i dont see them even in multiverse
[11:52] <rattboi> maybe some of the packages aren't available
[11:52] <sethk> rattboi, cross compiler is easy, you just specify the run and target environments in the ./configure
[11:52] <miketech> Hi
[11:52] <TheGateKeeper> Daishi:
[11:52] <TheGateKeeper> wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[11:52] <TheGateKeeper> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[11:52] <jordanau> Lamego, yes that is why i will use dyndns to get a steady place to connect to
[11:52] <NemesisUK> Daishi, their not search for ubuntu and plf
[11:53] <NemesisUK> at google
[11:53] <Daishi> ahh k
[11:53] <Daishi> thanks TheGateKeeper and NemesisUK
[11:53] <viveknz76> has anyone downloaded the 686 kernel
[11:53] <ICE> does anyone user freenx here
[11:53] <Lamego> rattboi, both toolchain-source and  dpkg-cross are available, checked it right now
[11:54] <Lamego> viveknz76, yes i have installed it once
[11:54] <viveknz76> Is it better than 386
[11:54] <Grue_Lovah> What's a good Ubuntu-friendly quicken-alternative?
[11:54] <TheGateKeeper> Daishi: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability   http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[11:54] <sethk> viveknz76, the same.
[11:54] <jordanau> Grue_Lovah, gnucash
[11:55] <Lamego> vice-versa, i noticed no difference, but yes, it is expected to perform better on a 686 system
[11:55] <viveknz76> so what's the difference
[11:55] <Grue_Lovah> thank you!!
[11:55] <sethk> viveknz76, just build with some different compiler flags.
[11:55] <Lamego> viveknz76, it is expected to perform better
[11:55] <sethk> viveknz76, improvement in performance is very close to zero.
[11:55] <viveknz76> is it worth upgrading to 686...
[11:55] <Grue_Lovah> now one more quick question. Is there anyway to make firefox seem like another browser?
[11:55] <sethk> viveknz76, probably not
[11:55] <Lamego> it doesn't hurt
[11:56] <Lamego> Grue_Lovah, sure, just look for a theme
[11:56] <cablesm102> I need some help with sound in Flash. Some days sound works, some days it doesn't.
[11:56] <viveknz76> thanks... sethk have you worked with network manager...
[11:56] <Grue_Lovah> ah. not quite what I was asking about
[11:56] <sethk> viveknz76, a bit, yes, why?
[11:56] <Lamego> or you mean, to look, like, to identify itself as
[11:56] <Grue_Lovah> that's it: to identify itself as...
[11:56] <TheGateKeeper> Grue_Lovah: identify itself as IE6?
[11:56] <Grue_Lovah> gatekeeper:yup
[11:56] <viveknz76> I just installed it.. I can see the icon but when i click it says network devices not found
[11:56] <Lamego> I believe there is an extension for that
[11:57] <vadersolo> hallo
[11:57] <Grue_Lovah> thank you as always
[11:57] <vadersolo> I install blackbox
[11:57] <ICE> freenx anyone user it here
[11:57] <vadersolo> how do I tell ubunto to start it
[11:57] <TheGateKeeper> Grue_Lovah: such plugins exist: http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/
[11:57] <Daishi> TheGateKeeper: cool..thanks a lot
[11:57] <vadersolo> since I dont want gnome
[11:57] <cablesm102> vader, do you mean start the program at startup?
[11:57] <TheGateKeeper> Daishi: yw :-)
[11:57] <sethk> viveknz76, ifconfig shows network interfaces, I take it?
[11:57] <due> vadersolo: Click on the options button in the bottom left hand side of the startup screen and select "Select session".
[11:57] <SaLoMoN> hi
[11:57] <Lamego> vadersolo, don't you get a blackbox option on the login session selection ?
[11:57] <viveknz76> Yes
[11:58] <vadersolo> cablesm102: yes I want to start the vm
[11:58] <vadersolo> Lamego: no
[11:58] <WillyWortel> how can i list (ls) only my directory(names)
[11:58] <TheGateKeeper> Grue_Lovah: it has been the topic of converstaions in usenet linux groups
[11:58] <sethk> viveknz76, this is with dapper?
[11:58] <SaLoMoN> i upgraded my debian server to ubuntu dapper drak, and now my postfix with mysql auth and auxprop plugin doenst work anymore
[11:58] <viveknz76> yes it is..
[11:58] <Daishi> WillyWortel: i wanna say ls -d
[11:58] <SaLoMoN> Aug 15 14:05:21 h621111 postfix/trivial-rewrite[3506] : fatal: mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_mailbox_domains.cf(0,100): table lookup problem
[11:58] <sethk> viveknz76, did you use sudo to run the manager?
[11:58] <Daishi> hrm..no
[11:58] <Grue_Lovah> gatekeeper:aha. Thank you!
[11:58] <cablesm102> vader, I'm not so good at the internals of the desktop environment. I can't help.
[11:58] <SaLoMoN> any ideas?
[11:59] <viveknz76> you mean.. sudo NetworkManager
[11:59] <viveknz76> or sudo NetworkManager --no-daemon
[11:59] <Daishi> WillyWortel:  find ./ -type d
[11:59] <sethk> viveknz76, either
[11:59] <Lane> Help with p0f?:p0f - passive os fingerprinting utility, version 2.0.5
[11:59] <Lane> (C) M. Zalewski <lcamtuf@dione.cc>, W. Stearns <wstearns@pobox.com>
[11:59] <Lane> [-]  ERROR: pcap_open_live failed: socket: Operation not permitted
[11:59] <quiet> evolution-exchange broken for anyone else?
[11:59] <Daishi> that that will recurse into lower dirs
[11:59] <tvgm2___> Grue_Lovah: the extension to change your user agent is here - http://chrispederick.com/work/useragentswitcher/
[11:59] <cablesm102> I need some help with sound in Flash applets. Some days sound works, some days it doesn't.
[11:59] <maria> hi does anyone know how i can find out what my ubuntu machine is named?\
[11:59] <TheGateKeeper> Grue_Lovah: good luck hunting it down, sorry I don't where it is exactly, but I know it's in there somewhere :-)
[11:59] <POVaddct> maria: hostname
[11:59] <viveknz76> I tried it.. it gives an error
[11:59] <Lane> type hostname in the terminal
[11:59] <WillyWortel> Daishi: ls -d  also show normal files, i only wanna list of my dirs
[12:00] <Daishi> yea
[12:00] <maria> POVaddct, thanks! :)
[12:00] <Grue_Lovah> tvgm2:mucho thank you
[12:00] <Lamego> WillyWortel, find -type d
[12:00] <sethk> viveknz76, what is the error?
[12:00] <tvgm2___> np
[12:00] <cablesm102> maria, try hostname
[12:00] <viveknz76>  nm_dbus_init() could not acquire the NetworkManager service as it is already taken (ret=3). Is the daemon already running?
[12:00] <Daishi> Lamego: that recurses though
 [1155679421.501584]  main (): nm_dbus_init() failed, exiting. Either dbus is not running, or the NetworkManager dbus security policy was not loaded.
[12:00] <sethk> WillyWortel, find . -type d
[12:00] <viveknz76> I am baffled
[12:00] <thrillho> cablesm102: I've heard this works: http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/
[12:00] <sethk> WillyWortel, if you do not want to decend, then find . --maxdepth 1 -type d
[12:00] <sethk> s/descend/decend/
[12:01] <Lane> Hey better question...where do I ask this question p0f isnt working and returns this error message: p0f - passive os fingerprinting utility, version 2.0.5
[12:01] <Lane> (C) M. Zalewski <lcamtuf@dione.cc>, W. Stearns <wstearns@pobox.com>
[12:01] <Lane> [-]  ERROR: pcap_open_live failed: socket: Operation not permitted
[12:01] <sethk> viveknz76, the underlying middleware layer isn't found, but I don't know why