=== arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-6-76-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === stevemidgley [n=stevemid@63.83.184.200] has joined #edubuntu === stevemidgley [n=stevemid@63.83.184.200] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #edubuntu [01:40] Hello === lecaros [n=JoseLeca@84-12-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz@149-24-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:14] Evening all [02:17] sbalneav ! [02:17] ogra! [02:17] Burning the midnight oil? [02:17] heh, a bit [02:17] I was just going to address pitti round two, then start looking at ltsp-manager. [02:17] we need to change your naming in /media [02:18] Sure, what would you like? [02:18] ogra2-cdrom wont be recognized by g-v-m [02:18] make it /media/ogra2/cdrom [02:18] Oh! Will it "see" into subdirectories? [02:18] ogra, you have a sec for me? [02:18] Sure, easy peasy. [02:18] sbalneav, yup, totally [02:18] :) [02:18] then we have the right icons [02:19] gimme 5 five minutes. [02:19] i'll have to rethink cdpinger [02:19] :/ === mhz is now known as mhz_off [02:19] since ltspfsd constantly triggers CDROM.CDROM_DISC_STATUS ... [02:20] Want me to put some thought to that? I had a couple of idears anyway. I'll hash 'em out, try to get something something working. [02:20] shouldnt be a big prob, i can check for CDROM_DISC_CHANGED [02:21] but now that i got the current code working some funnny things started to hapen, like nautilus popping up a window everytime ltspfsd triggers the cd [02:21] pygi, yep [02:22] ogra, why would I get "/usr/include/libburn/0/libburn/" instead of normal "/usr/include/libburn/libburn"? [02:22] wow [02:22] phew, no idea [02:22] you guys are still awake [02:22] heh [02:22] ogra, this is bugging me :-/ [02:22] jsgotangco, hardly [02:22] you're all supposed to sleep [02:22] :D [02:22] jsgotangco, 2:23 am [02:22] yeah [02:22] hmm [02:23] seems croatia is 1 munite ahead of me [02:23] jsgotangco, I can't sleep until I solve this, so ^_^ [02:23] *minute [02:23] i hear ya i've been there [02:23] any solutions? [02:23] ogra, hehe :) [02:24] not really, find out why the 0 is added :) [02:24] o joy, will bug someone else later then :) [02:24] once I wake up, I hope :P [02:24] are you talking abou tthe package build or the compiler run ? [02:25] this doesn't have anything to do with package [02:25] ok, so its the linking ... [02:25] ogra: Do you want ltspmount to make the intermediate "/media/uid/" directory, or will the script do it? [02:26] no, wait, I have to do it [02:26] I'm the setuid one [02:26] i'm fine leaving that to ltspmount [02:26] yeah [02:26] k, [02:26] ogra, oki, thanks anyway ^_^ [02:26] that will take.... more than 5 minutes :( [02:27] oh, right ... you need to add a lot of checks :( [02:35] hmm, easy ... the cdpinger just needs a check if /dev/cdrom is in /proc/mounts [02:35] smart === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-6-76-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:49] ogra: ok, got it. Haven't addressed a couple of pitti's concern's yet, but It works for testing. emailing.... [02:50] sended [03:05] hrm [03:05] /proc/mounts doesnt help [03:05] i should stop for today ... [03:05] indeed it gets unmounted by ltspfsd [03:05] so it doesnt show up in /proc/mounts [03:06] sbalneav, how do you work around that problem in lbus ? [03:07] Well, in lbus, adding a cdrom doesn't actually do the mount. When it detects MEDIA, then it does the mount. [03:07] right [03:07] cdpinger does the same [03:07] then you keep checking media, and when the media goes away you unmount. [03:08] hmm, i thought thats what i do as well [03:08] so all cdpinger needs to do, i figure, is just idle on a cdrom, and when you see media, add it to /tmp/fstab, and kick off the mount [03:09] So the UDEV part shouldn't add anything to fstab, but rather, when you detect a cdrom device, launch a cdpinger for it. [03:09] udev doesnt touch fstab [03:09] not for cdroms [03:09] cdpinger does everything cdrom related [03:09] sure it does. you touch any block device, yes? [03:09] hmm [03:10] or am I reading the rules wrong that keybuck gave us? [03:10] no [03:10] i'm wondering how to tell udev to exclude CDs here [03:10] so, isn't there a sysfs{removable} or something that could help us? [03:10] intrestingly udev did never pick up my cd here [03:11] I can play with that here tonight. [03:11] get some sleep, or you'll fall over. [03:11] mail me what you've got so far, and I'll work with it. [03:11] its currntly totally ripped apart [03:11] leave the cdpinger part to me ... [03:12] so? I'm good at jigsaws! tar it up, dude, I'm here to help! [03:13] no, i mean the code is unusable atm [03:13] its in the middle of a shuffle ... [03:13] i'd like to keep the overview in that one ... but i'll package the other stuff now [03:14] ok, well, I'll play around and see if I can come up with some ideas. I was going to address pitti's concerns tonight as well. [03:14] i think essentially ltspfsd shouldt unmount cdroms ... [03:14] *shouldnt [03:14] well, that's easy enough [03:14] its not needed [03:15] quick modify to /sbin/ltspfs_mount script. [03:15] there will be no write operations unless we implemented burning over ltspfs ;) [03:15] which i plan to do together with audiocd support [03:15] in edgy+n [03:15] ah, well, that's for the next version. By then we'll be all muekow, so it'll be easier. [03:17] erm, if i modify the ltspfs_mount script that wont solve the frequent unmounting [03:18] sorry, _umount [03:18] :) [03:18] meh, i'm really to tired [03:18] indeed [03:19] sleep, sleepyhead. [03:19] Let uncle scotty play for a bit :) === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu [03:28] hmm [03:28] ltspmounter dies if the dir in media exists ? [03:30] ha ! [03:30] works !! [03:34] gah [03:34] unmounting doesnt [03:38] \o/ [03:38] hmm [03:38] /o\ [03:39] why does the drive ignore fcntl.ioctl(f, CDROM.CDROM_LOCKDOOR, 0) if its mounted via ltspfs [03:39] it works fine if i just fuse mount it [03:41] Well, the ltspfsd isn't doing anything with ioctls at all. It simply reads files under a directory. [03:41] but apparently it blocks the tray [03:44] i'm silly [03:47] the /sbin/ltspfs_mount script would indeed need the ioctl now ... [03:47] Ah, so you need to mount it nolock? === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu [03:53] got it, but it still doesnt unmount ... [03:53] heh [03:53] i really should go to sleep ... [03:53] i just forbid ltspfsd to unmount cdroms ... [03:54] indeed it cant unmount then :) [04:06] sbalneav, http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ltsp-localdev-scripts.tar.bz2 updated [04:06] (beware, the cdpinger is very noisy (but works)) [04:07] its missing a check if the cd is really mounted before running the unmount commands ... i'll jump on that tomorrow === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco thinks you should sleep === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@202.149.56.110] has joined #edubuntu [04:11] will do so :) [04:11] night all [04:11] :) === cafuego [n=cafuego@ppp73-82.lns1.mel3.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === CrashTest [n=pteglia@c-24-16-175-243.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:21] Hi all! Can someone help me out with an OpenOffice Writer question? [05:25] sure but you'll probably get better replies in #ubuntu [05:27] Cool, well I will ask there as well :) [05:28] I am trying to figure out how to view "Comments" that exist in Word docs. The "Comment" menu item in "Changes" is greyed out. === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === CrashTest [n=pteglia@c-24-16-175-243.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === Cornellius [n=Alain@142-217-38-112.telebecinternet.net] has joined #edubuntu === Ghost_Printer [n=geek4lif@S0106006067664bde.no.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === Ghost_Printer [n=geek4lif@S0106006067664bde.no.shawcable.net] has left #edubuntu [] === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-195-106.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [07:27] why does this thing look oversized :/ === jsgotangco kicks OOo2 [07:36] Snore. Old man /me's getting tired. Off to bed. 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[12:27] shhh, we'we huntin wabbits === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu [12:35] good morning [12:37] good afternoon === willvdl does UTC to SAST conversion, looks at watch and chokes [12:52] morning rodarvus and willvdl [12:57] hey willvdl, highvoltage [12:58] hi guys ... been lurking while I cath up on other stuff [12:59] hi RichEd === rodarvus is preparing himself to next week's developers sprint [01:00] rodarvus: will i get the OLPC status info from you soon ? i'd prefer to have it before we have our core meeting [01:00] even a high level one to start ... we can drill down when time permits [01:01] RichEd, I wanted to have a formal plan before sending you this, but I can send a high level one in a few minutes if you want [01:01] (doing that) [01:01] thanks ... we can then do a education core meeting tomorrow some time ... quick 30 mins [01:02] ( not a long session like ladt week :) i know you & ogra are both busy bees [01:02] I believe I'll be able to have most (low level) stuff ready for the end of the day today [01:02] last <- ladt [01:02] rodarvus, do you know when we have the distro meeting tomorrow ? [01:03] ogra: yes, 23:00 UTC [01:03] ah, k [01:03] thats fine then [01:03] are we all on for the meeting tonight ? and will it need 2 hours ? === RichEd is off to a meeting at my kids school ... 1 hour max [01:11] RichEd, I don't think the meeting tonight will last two hours, unless one of you really has a lot to say :) [01:12] good ... was up 'till late with emails last night energy level is -----> low === ogra guesses it wont even be 1h === JanisLee [n=JanisLee@201-25-141-4.ctame704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === markit86 [n=markit86@80-41-62-166.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #edubuntu === Georg_G [n=opera@dslb-084-061-002-227.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #edubuntu === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu === Petaris [n=Petaris@216.56.37.162] has joined #edubuntu === Georg_G [n=opera@dslb-084-061-002-227.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #edubuntu === Georg_G [n=opera@dslb-084-061-002-227.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #edubuntu [] === Georg_G [n=opera@dslb-084-061-002-227.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #edubuntu === Georg_G [n=opera@dslb-084-061-002-227.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #edubuntu [] === willvdl whips out typing-tutor to prepare for meeting === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AFDCA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:21] hmm === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl sees double [02:25] ? === RichEd sees backwards [02:32] RichEd: hi! [02:33] i think hit some strange key combo in Evolution ... when i type in the email it "writes backwards" as in "sdrakcab setirw" [02:33] anyoje got any ideas what i did and how i odnu ? [02:33] anyone <- anyoje [02:33] Your keyboard is upside-down? [02:33] wow [02:34] is that for real? [02:34] i must have selected chinese or jewish input ... [02:34] yes, it looks like somehow you selected jewish input [02:34] yep ... no lies ... XTalk is fine ... evolution must be in a different language mode ... [02:35] let me open a new mail, and see if it is an individual mail or evolution wide setting ... i suspect latter === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [02:35] fine in a new mail ... strange ... [02:36] that is fascinating === RichEd checks his "package" to see if it still has its "polo neck" [02:37] 1,2,3 yip, all there [02:37] googling "evolution" + "backwards" + anything else opens up a whole new can of worms === sankarshan is now known as help === help is now known as sankarshan [02:43] Is the change of CookBook to HandBook an _official_ name change yet? [02:50] i.e. one that reflects online? [02:52] honestly i do not know its status [02:52] speaking of which [02:52] its official, I think [02:52] did we even have a meeting today [02:52] jsgotangco, see the fridge :P [02:53] ugghh i tend to get confused with these UTC things lately [02:53] 4AM YAY [02:54] 10pm. hope I'm sober [02:54] thats no essential requirement :) [02:55] ogra: honestly i feel i am out of the loop lately, but trying [02:55] noticing there are quite a few online cookbook references for changing....ug === jsgotangco *sniff* [02:56] willvdl, please talk to the cookbook team before changing any links etc ... only they know wats recent ... its a big chaos [02:56] oh, was not going to stick fingers in. [02:57] Just reading up on stuff and updating my bookmarks [02:57] ah [02:58] I notice there's some duplication on www.edubuntu.org and wiki.edubuntu.org [02:59] which one will be used in the future? [03:00] well [03:00] willvdl: if you look at the personal wiki page for Matt Nuzum, he has noted things like TLD site duplication, and wants to build a search that goes across all possible TLDs [03:00] the main site runs drupal [03:00] (in his new to the job task list observations) [03:01] and the wiki is moin that encompasses all the projects [03:01] so there's a disconnect [03:02] ah, thanks === AM|R [n=gomo@linux.opensource.org.my] has joined #edubuntu === AM|R [n=gomo@linux.opensource.org.my] has left #edubuntu [] === willvdl compares to ubuntu main site and clicks [03:09] ALL: I think that due to the sprint on the horizon next week, we'll keep the meeting short & sweet tonight for the sake of Oliver & Rodrigo. They can tell us what they are up to between now and the end of the Sprint. Followed by a short update from all of us. The rest of us will meet again next week, while the dev. boys are wrapped up in a coding frenzy in Chermany.. [03:09] sure [03:09] okie [03:10] hi jsgotangco: didn't reply to your greeting ^^^ === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AD304.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:30] who is will van der leij? [03:30] ahhh === jsgotangco ignore him [03:30] me [03:30] i mean ignore me [03:30] :) [03:35] willvdl, you need to create a wikipage and list your contributions and yu need to sign the code of conduct [03:36] http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember === neurogeek [n=neurogee@201.248.239.219] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [03:54] Morning all! [03:55] hi! [03:55] hey jsgotangco!! [03:56] ogra: agreed. there are a few admin thingies I need to take care of still. Will do asap === sbalneav is now known as sbalneav_away === willvdl [n=willvdl@196.36.161.235] has left #edubuntu [] [04:41] wow we now have 12 planets === sbalneav_away is now known as sbalneav [04:41] we have the universe (and the multiverse as well) :) [04:42] ogra_: Hey, dude! How's it goin' eh? [04:42] cdpinger done [04:42] i'll start to rewrite th eserver side script in python later today [04:43] btw, no need to bind mount cdroms [04:43] No? [04:43] gnome-vfs just picks them up, regardless wher we mount them [04:43] Even in /tmp? [04:44] i spent my morning with digging for the reason why i always had 2 cdroms on the desktop :) [04:44] its likely a bug in gnome-vfs :) [04:44] even in /tmp [04:44] or wherever you want [04:45] I'd say. I thing we should bindmount to media, if for no other reason than that's the "proper" place to put them [04:45] as long as the device is called cdrom [04:45] sure, but currently you'll have to live with two desktop and device entries in nautilus then [04:46] Get the new ltspmount.c last night? I was wearing out my usb port last night plugging and unplugging memory sticks. Seems to work pretty schweeeet. [04:46] yep [04:46] using it ;) [04:47] with the new cdpinger and ltspfsmounter (we need new names !) you now have the right icons on your desktop as well ;) [04:47] i'll look later today how to patch nautilus so we dot get the eject entry if LTSP_CLIENT is set [04:47] *dont [04:48] then we nly have floppies left [04:48] which i dont have around here [04:49] ogra_: well it makes any planet-based edu app in our repo obsolete :D [04:50] ogra_: I've got a couple of rigs with floppies. let me handle that one. [04:50] i think it should work out of the box, but lest see [04:50] *lets [04:51] udev should handle it just fine [04:51] the only think i see is that we cant get the proper icon here [04:51] yeah, the device node's being created, that much I know. [04:51] then its also mounted [04:51] but as soon as the label is used instead of the name floppy we wont get the right icon [04:52] same prob as cdroms have [04:52] they need to be called cdrom in /media [04:53] It's getting pretty nice, I gotta say. [04:53] yeah [04:54] its the sexiest localdev implementation ever :) [04:54] Hey, is pitti working on the blocker bug? [04:54] sure, he marked it "in progress" [04:55] and he uses to work with german precision ;) [04:55] so it should be fixed until release in any case [04:55] awesomeness. [04:56] ok, I'm gonna spend an hour finishing up on pitti's concerns, and autoconf/"gnu"ing it. [04:56] We're calling it "ltspmount", do we want another name? [04:56] i'll have to gnu my stuff as well :) [04:57] ltspbindmounter? [04:57] haha [04:57] lbinder ? [04:57] lbind ? [04:57] our names start getting quite longish :) [04:57] lbindmount [04:58] lbmount? [04:58] that sounds good [04:58] lbmount it is. [04:58] okie, gimme a bit. [04:58] sbalneav: sort of the wrong channel for this question, but I see you are more active here than in #lstp at the moment. do you know the names of the fedora & debian & red hat people coming to the fest ? [04:59] i'm motivating to mark to support my invitation :) [04:59] RichEd: heh, I'm in both. You're talking the summit at jammcq's in September? [05:00] Is that the one you're taling about? Or right now in LWCE? [05:00] no ... i've been invited as an education observer to start some relationships - i'm the new Canonical Education Programme Manager ... and the fest is a good place to meet a whole bunch of people at once [05:01] jammcq's yes ... and to meet Ogra as well :) we just know each other digitally and have not met as yet [05:01] Ah, ok well.... [05:01] RichEd: you're talking to the next-in line god of LTSP! [05:01] :D === jsgotangco hides [05:01] Fedora: Warren Togami, head of Fedora [05:02] Debian: vagrantc, hangs out in #ltsp all the time [05:02] jsgotangco ++ === RichEd is humble and well aware of the impeccable credentials :) === jinty [n=jinty@121.Red-83-56-157.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:02] Ubuntu: Ogra, teutonic Edubuntu warrior [05:02] heh :) [05:03] and I think jammcq's gonna see if he can shame someone from SuSE into coming. [05:03] On the LTSP side, we'll have jammcq, me, and gadi. === ogra goes to swing his teutonic lawnmower for a moment now ... [05:03] + Eric Harrison ... Eri & Jim & Oliver yourself are the primary reason to come [05:04] the rest are a bonus ! [05:04] jsgotangco: next in line God? Please, my proper title is demi-God :) [05:04] ack! [05:04] Ah, yes, Eric as well, how could I forget. === jsgotangco begs for divine mercy [05:04] hope that's no relation to demi-Moore ;) [05:04] Granted, my child :) [05:05] come to where? [05:05] What name does vagrantc go by when he walks the real world ? [05:06] It should be awesome. [05:06] Umm, hold on lemme look [05:06] And is the RedHat person a reality or a rumour at this stage ? [05:06] Or is he bundled with Fedora ;) [05:06] Vagrant Cascadian [05:06] tx. [05:07] Jammcq told me yesterday that it's confirmed that Warren's bought his plane ticket. [05:07] err what's happening here? [05:07] LTSP sprint? [05:08] yes jsgotangco : LTSP hack fest [05:08] or a bunch of gods that decided to go meet at mount olympus [05:08] and decide the fate of the world [05:08] It is an effort to find a common ground amongst all distros, as to how LTSP should be implemented in a common way === RichEd cuts & pastes that great 1 line summary into his motivation [05:09] Ubuntu's the first distro to implement the "muekow" spec we came up with, and vagrantc's moved it into debian. [05:09] yes so i iheard [05:10] The trick will be to get the RPM world and the DEB world to agree on a common way (if possible) to do things, so that LTSP will simply be an installable package under any distro. [05:11] any news on: and i'm hoping for a Novell guy ? [05:11] then i'll stop with the questions already and leave you to get back to work :) [05:14] Ubuntu/Debian have the advantage that they've already DONE the heavy lifting, so I'm sort of hoping we can basically say "ok, lets look at Ubuntu/debian, and figure out how we do the same thing on Fedora/Redhat/Suse [05:14] RichEd: The novell thing we'll find out at some point today. [05:14] schweet === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [05:14] that's really really nice === RichEd is most greatful for the info [05:15] grateful :D [05:15] If we can get Fedora + Novell + Ubuntu + Debian at the same table, that's like, what, 90+% of all Linux's out there? === jsgotangco orders RichEd to write it down 10 times on the board [05:15] greatful = same as grateful, just a greater appreciation level ;) [05:15] yeah eventually, all the others will follow suit [05:16] Fedora gets to go to RHEL [05:16] Once you get it in Fedora, that means it's just a matter of time before it's in RHEL, and it's easy to port it to Mand[rake|riva] [05:16] Novell, well goes to themselves [05:17] Basically, I see this as the summit where the future of thin client on Linux gets decided, and moves ahead to the next phase. [05:17] I've said this lots of times, and I'll say it again: [05:18] If you're going to deploy Linux in any scale, at a business or a school: [05:18] Thin client is the ONLY way to go. [05:18] ping ogra === jsgotangco claps at the inspiring chat logs [05:19] And if there's a good, stable, capable thin client implementation included in any distro, then that blows the whole thing right to the next level of awesomeissitude. [05:19] sbalneav: i'll be doing a presentation in 2 weeks that can alter the LTSP landscape here [05:19] *if* it gets implemented [05:19] Down in the Phillipines? [05:19] yeah [05:19] Cool. At schools? [05:19] we're targeting GILAS [05:19] yeup [05:19] yep [05:19] gila mosters? Can they type? :) [05:20] What are GILAS? [05:20] http://www.philippinenews.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=37a79420dfb7aaddcc2a048ecb43bc46 [05:21] Ah, awesome. [05:22] Edubuntu slots in perfectly. [05:22] Interestingly, MS is part of GILAS but hasn't done anything [05:22] that's where I come in [05:23] so yeah i think i need a haircut soon [05:23] ogra, I'm going to have some time to work on scp tonight, if you get time, could you look at the code I did in my bzr branch, scp-client and scp-server run the server, then the client and see if that's what you were thinking of === cbx33 needs another haircut [05:23] i need a *real* haircut [05:23] Think I'm gonna go lead-singer-of-muse haircut [05:23] if i dont get it cut soon itll be as long as ogras [05:25] paper based education story: http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=13&art_id=vn20060816110655719C284059 [05:26] "Mark's multi-million rand surprise for mayor" [05:26] RichEd: i really need some help on the case studies :/ [05:27] "A canon was fired to kick off the ceremony. " [05:28] next week, they fire a bishop, then soon a cardinal ! [05:29] jsgotangco: been looking around in the gaps in my time but not easy ..,. as we said ... will look some more in-between my meetings tonight [05:30] thanks i couldn't find really good data myself [05:41] ping Amaranth [05:42] jsgotangco, that is quite some hair then :p [05:43] fairly; it grows too fast === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd is going for some dinner === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #edubuntu [06:15] Hello [06:21] ogra: heh, this thing's bloated to about 315 lines of code!! :) === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [06:42] ok, away for lunch for a bit. [06:42] be back in an hour. [06:42] Ogra, just sent off the (hopefully) final vierson to pitti. [06:42] cc'd you. [06:42] thanks ! [06:42] 338 lines [06:42] enjoy your lunch [06:43] for a setuid wrapper [06:43] i'll look at it :) [06:43] Secure programming is hard [06:43] going for my walk. bbl === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:18] rodarvus: ping??? === Valery [n=valery@217.196.165.225] has joined #edubuntu === Valery [n=valery@217.196.165.225] has left #edubuntu [] === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [07:51] ogra: Back from walk. === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-225-177.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [08:04] LaserJock, pong === mhz [n=mhz@149-24-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === caravena [n=caravena@222-34-50.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu [08:14] hi all [08:14] rodarvus: pm :-) sorry for ping [08:14] is the mmeting up for 1:45 more hours? === willvdl [n=will@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu [08:23] Hi folks. Proud owner of Dapper on a travelmate. === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-207-169.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === neurogeek [n=neurogee@201.248.239.219] has joined #edubuntu === KenSentMe [n=KenSentM@a82-92-80-8.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #edubuntu === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:54] hi th1a :) [08:55] Hi RichEd. [08:56] I just got a call that Steve is running behind & won't make it. [08:56] how are you doing ? is it early or mid morning for you ? [08:56] It is 3:00 PM. [08:56] okay ... no problem ... we can chat [08:56]