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toma | imbrandon: the text at the top "these are unofficial..." should be the default font for you. | 12:13 |
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imbrandon | yup | 12:13 |
toma | judging from the screenie, irc is a lot bigger, so i was confused | 12:14 |
goldenear | I have a pb with automake: I try to compile an app from the kde svn and I then want to do: make -f admin/Makefile.common | 12:14 |
goldenear | but it doesn't work | 12:15 |
toma | does the file exists? | 12:15 |
goldenear | I have a warning about alocale and then error: m4_defn: undefined macro: _m4_divert_diversion | 12:15 |
goldenear | sure | 12:15 |
goldenear | I google to find the problem but I did not find anything | 12:16 |
toma | autoconf 2.52 ? | 12:16 |
goldenear | 2.59 | 12:16 |
toma | you seem to have a mismatch between autoconf and automake | 12:17 |
toma | can you see if either one is upgradable? | 12:17 |
goldenear | no upgrade available | 12:17 |
goldenear | both are the standard version installed with dapper... | 12:18 |
goldenear | I can't understand | 12:18 |
toma | is there an older version installed? | 12:19 |
toma | as well | 12:19 |
goldenear | nop | 12:19 |
goldenear | should I install an older version too (like the 1.4) ? | 12:20 |
goldenear | or a newer ( 1.9) version of automake ? | 12:20 |
toma | no | 12:21 |
toma | can you move aclocal.m4 to a temp place on your hd and try again? | 12:22 |
goldenear | I install 1.9 (and remove 1.8) and I have the same error... | 12:24 |
goldenear | toma: you mean all the aclocale dir ? | 12:26 |
toma | no | 12:26 |
toma | in the top source dir is here a file called aclocal.m4 ? | 12:26 |
goldenear | no, this file is created during the procedure | 12:28 |
goldenear | the problem is from: /usr/share/aclocal/glib.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GLIB | 12:28 |
toma | that is something else ;-) | 12:28 |
toma | imbrandon: site fixed, missing </small> after each block, thnxs | 12:43 |
imbrandon | np, dinner time for me, bbiab | 12:43 |
imbrandon | Riddell: i cc'd you on a reply mail from pitti to the ubuntu-devel list , when you have time to look it over , no hurries | 12:44 |
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bddebian | Hello | 01:40 |
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Hobbsee | nice! apachelogger did kopete 0.12.2! | 03:00 |
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Hobbsee | suspicious. md5sums and sizes of the .orig.tar.gz are different, between his version and the version off the kopete.kde.org site. boht were changed from .bz2 to .gz | 04:26 |
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imbrandon | hahahaha | 05:41 |
imbrandon | < shad0w1e> hmm sleepydog, you said that reiserfs would only be faster in some "extreme" situations | 05:41 |
imbrandon | < shad0w1e> would you consider KDE booting up to be an extreme situation? | 05:41 |
Hobbsee | lol! | 05:43 |
Hobbsee | to be fair, kde starts up much better with an empty session | 06:08 |
nixternal | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings/Minutes/2006-08-10 | 06:16 |
nixternal | meeting minutes are complete, please do a look over and see if they are ok | 06:16 |
nixternal | thanks | 06:16 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: cool, thanks | 06:19 |
nixternal | np, its ok? | 06:19 |
nixternal | i know it is probably the most professional ones to date ;) | 06:19 |
Hobbsee | :) indeed | 06:20 |
nixternal | i will tell lulu bell everyone appreciated it ;) | 06:21 |
Hobbsee | oh yay, kopete finished building. | 06:23 |
nixternal | woot | 06:23 |
nixternal | what is the trick to get my monitors from shutting off every 5 to 10 minutes? | 06:24 |
nixternal | ever since i up'd to 3.5.4, system settings -> display doesn't fix it anymore | 06:25 |
Hobbsee | dunno | 06:26 |
Hobbsee | i dont have that problem | 06:26 |
nixternal | it is a power feature tucked away somewhere | 06:26 |
Hobbsee | yay, forgot to copy to the right place, therefore ssh failed. | 06:26 |
nixternal | it happens on all 4 of my machines though | 06:26 |
nixternal | haha | 06:26 |
Hobbsee | well, scp | 06:26 |
Hobbsee | ssh is still up :) | 06:27 |
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Hobbsee | right | 06:29 |
Hobbsee | http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/kopete/ - testers required | 06:37 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: ping? | 06:41 |
imbrandon | pong | 06:42 |
imbrandon | well give me a sec, grabin a soda | 06:42 |
Hobbsee | ok | 06:43 |
imbrandon | kk back | 06:45 |
imbrandon | sup ? | 06:45 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, ? | 06:46 |
Hobbsee | [14:37] <Hobbsee> http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/kopete/ - testers required | 06:46 |
imbrandon | ahh okie | 06:46 |
Hobbsee | oh darn it, one of the bits in the control file didnt format properly | 06:47 |
imbrandon | so wait ? | 06:47 |
Hobbsee | no, so go for it | 06:48 |
Hobbsee | the binaries will be fine | 06:49 |
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imbrandon | k | 06:49 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: looks like i forgot to hit enter. i'm just updating the debdiff/.dsc/.diff.gz now | 06:49 |
Hobbsee | yep, done | 06:49 |
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imbrandon | heh you'll get to see soon enough if you write up the uvf for it | 06:51 |
Hobbsee | i need the changelog to write the UVF | 06:53 |
imbrandon | umm yup | 06:53 |
imbrandon | thats the main part ;) | 06:53 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Processes/UVF | 06:54 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: kopete's in main | 06:55 |
Hobbsee | i think i'ts just an email to mdz/kamion | 06:55 |
imbrandon | same process , thats what Riddell pointed me too for ktorrent and amarok , then you email mdz and point him to the bug | 06:56 |
Hobbsee | right | 06:56 |
imbrandon | ( mostly so its documented on LP and not just your email thats not arcived like a ML ) | 06:57 |
imbrandon | archived* | 06:57 |
Hobbsee | point, | 06:57 |
seaLne | just seeing that made me wonder whether the freenode server patch would be worthwile for dapper-updates? | 07:04 |
Hobbsee | seaLne: i'd prefer to backport the entire darn thing. i dobut it's worth it | 07:05 |
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Hobbsee | s/backports/updates/ | 07:05 |
seaLne | fair enough | 07:05 |
Hobbsee | and mdz checks those *very* carefully | 07:05 |
seaLne | do you ever use kopete for irc? | 07:06 |
Hobbsee | once in a blue moon | 07:06 |
Hobbsee | not to freenode | 07:06 |
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Hobbsee | hi poningru | 07:07 |
Hobbsee | seaLne: too many channels i'm on, on freenode, and no aliases that i know of | 07:07 |
seaLne | presumably ok for one | 07:08 |
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seaLne_ | yeah does look a lot unlike xchat or something | 07:08 |
Hobbsee | looks like trillian :P | 07:09 |
seaLne_ | never used that | 07:09 |
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poningru | :) | 07:10 |
poningru | hi | 07:10 |
seaLne | certainly fine for telling users to get to #kubuntu with | 07:10 |
Hobbsee | true | 07:10 |
seaLne | bit complicated | 07:14 |
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nixternal | Hobbsee: kopete is safe to try out? | 07:23 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: sure | 07:23 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: it's yet to blow up here | 07:23 |
Hobbsee | but i dont know what the upstream changelog is though | 07:23 |
nixternal | im not gonna get some weird pointy stick flashing across my screen ;) | 07:23 |
Hobbsee | haha | 07:24 |
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Hobbsee | now that would be fun. | 07:24 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: i have people eyeballing my stuff to main, remember? | 07:24 |
nixternal | ya, doesn't mean you can't hide a stick in there | 07:24 |
Hobbsee | heh | 07:24 |
nixternal | arg | 07:24 |
nixternal | is that for edgy? | 07:24 |
nixternal | lol | 07:24 |
nixternal | im a moron | 07:24 |
Hobbsee | just wait till i get -core-dev... | 07:24 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: yes | 07:24 |
nixternal | lol | 07:24 |
Hobbsee | i386, too | 07:24 |
nixternal | ok, let me switch machines | 07:24 |
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Pupeno | Hello. | 10:41 |
Pupeno | [OT] Is there any easy way, in PyKDE, to run kapp.exec_loop() in a separate thread so my application can continue to do other things ? | 10:41 |
Riddell | I guess you could run threads in the normal python way, but generally if you're running a mainloop that's what you want to be concentrating on | 10:43 |
Pupeno | I have another mainloop, that's the problem. | 10:44 |
Pupeno | Riddell: anyway, I haven't seen the 'normal way' to run a Python thread... except by creating a class. Do I have to create a class ? | 10:45 |
Riddell | no idea, never done it | 10:46 |
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freeflying | Riddell: I've sent you the debdiff of scim-chewing and scim-pinyin | 11:04 |
Riddell | freeflying: got that, will look at it today thanks | 11:08 |
freeflying | Riddell: would you mind have a look on scim-qtimm( doko's patch) | 11:08 |
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Riddell | freeflying: sure | 11:14 |
freeflying | Riddell: thanks | 11:14 |
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toma | morning | 12:10 |
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imbrandon | moins all | 02:22 |
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Hobbsee | hi all! | 02:32 |
toma | morning imbrandon, Hobbsee | 02:34 |
Hobbsee | hi toma | 02:34 |
=== Hobbsee bounces up and down | ||
imbrandon | heya toma | 02:34 |
Hobbsee | which bit of the world do i take over first? | 02:34 |
imbrandon | hehe | 02:34 |
toma | food market, /me is hungry | 02:34 |
=== Hobbsee is munching on dinner. it's hot | ||
=== Hobbsee continues to bounce arond | ||
Hobbsee | *around | 02:35 |
=== imbrandon is eating a bowl of fruity prbbles | ||
imbrandon | pebbles* | 02:35 |
=== toma should write new flash software for the bread machine, this is taking to long | ||
toma | too | 02:36 |
imbrandon | lol | 02:36 |
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Hobbsee | what'd i miss? | 02:37 |
imbrandon | [07:35] * Hobbsee continues to bounce arond | 02:37 |
imbrandon | [07:35] <Hobbsee> *around | 02:37 |
imbrandon | [07:35] * imbrandon is eating a bowl of fruity prbbles | 02:37 |
imbrandon | [07:35] <imbrandon> pebbles* | 02:37 |
Hobbsee | yeah, got that much | 02:37 |
imbrandon | [07:36] * toma should write new flash software for the bread machine, this is taking to long | 02:37 |
imbrandon | [07:36] <toma> too | 02:38 |
Hobbsee | [22:36] <Hobbsee> interesting | 02:38 |
Hobbsee | [22:36] <Hobbsee> do they taste rock-like? | 02:38 |
imbrandon | [07:36] <imbrandon> lol | 02:38 |
imbrandon | not much lol | 02:38 |
imbrandon | hahah no , you dont have them in AU ? | 02:38 |
Hobbsee | we might... | 02:39 |
Hobbsee | i likely just dont eat them | 02:39 |
imbrandon | wikipedia " Fruity Pebbles is a breakfast cereal introduced by Post Cereals in 1971 and featuring characters from the animated series The Flintstones. It contains fruit-flavoured crispy rice cereal bits. A similarly-themed cereal is Cocoa Pebbles. " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruity_Pebbles | 02:39 |
=== imbrandon is suprised it was in wikipedia LOL | ||
Hobbsee | ahhh.... | 02:39 |
Hobbsee | nope, we dont have them | 02:39 |
=== Hobbsee continues to bounce around happily | ||
imbrandon | heh, i'm gonna start caling you tigger ( please tell me you know tigger of whinnie the poo ) | 02:40 |
imbrandon | calling* | 02:40 |
Hobbsee | haha | 02:40 |
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imbrandon | lol | 02:41 |
Hobbsee | yeah, i do | 02:41 |
Hobbsee | hi Riddell! | 02:46 |
Riddell | hi Hobbsee | 02:46 |
imbrandon | moins Riddell | 02:46 |
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Hobbsee | no, i didnt find a secret stash of red cordial at work or something.... | 02:47 |
imbrandon | red cordial ? | 02:47 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: doesnt red cordial usually make people go hyper? | 02:47 |
Hobbsee | ohhhhh....you guys dont have red cordial, that's right. | 02:47 |
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Hobbsee | imbrandon: flavoured water. clear, not fizzy | 02:48 |
imbrandon | ahh | 02:48 |
imbrandon | kool aid | 02:48 |
imbrandon | ;) | 02:48 |
mornfall | look up kool-aid in jargon | 02:49 |
imbrandon | Kool-Aid is an artificially flavored soft drink concentrate made by Kraft Foods. Kool-Aid is sold as a powder to be mixed with water and a sweetener (sugar or an artificial sweetener). Some versions include the sweetener with the flavor concentrate, only requiring the addition of water. | 02:50 |
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Hobbsee | yep | 02:51 |
mornfall | jargon :p | 02:51 |
mornfall | not dictionary | 02:51 |
mornfall | The term originates in the suicide of 914 followers of Jim Jones's | 02:51 |
mornfall | People's Temple cult in Guyana in 1978. What they actually drank was | 02:51 |
mornfall | cyanide-laced Flavor-Aid, a cheap knockoff, rather than Kool-Aid | 02:51 |
mornfall | itself. There is a FAQ on this topic. | 02:51 |
imbrandon | heh crazy /me dident know that | 02:52 |
mornfall | to drink kool-aid -> to believe, loosely | 02:52 |
imbrandon | to me its a drink for small kids heheh | 02:52 |
mornfall | yeah... it has nasty connotations for many, though | 02:53 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: did you actually get your key signed, btw? | 02:53 |
imbrandon | next week | 02:54 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: nice :) | 02:54 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: i'm surprised they acked you for MOTU - it's listed as a requirement that you have a signed key | 02:54 |
=== imbrandon notes there are others with no signed key also ;) | ||
imbrandon | anyhow bbiab shower time | 02:55 |
Hobbsee | really? | 02:56 |
seaLne | that sounds bad | 02:57 |
Hobbsee | seaLne: unsigned keys? not really. it doesnt really matter that much who the person is behind this keyboard, as long as i'm in control of the key, and i dont abuse it | 02:58 |
Hobbsee | the fact that i have a name to go with the face, as proof doesnt mean that much per se. | 02:58 |
Hobbsee | ie, i'm more related to the work i do, rather than my name. my name rarely even comes up | 02:58 |
Hobbsee | if that makes sense | 02:58 |
seaLne | it depends, if you new that imbrandon was actually bill gates you might be a bit warey | 02:58 |
Hobbsee | true that | 02:59 |
seaLne | it also means that someone has met the person | 03:00 |
Hobbsee | also true | 03:00 |
Hobbsee | like, it has it's good points, but it's not *that* big a deal, in my view | 03:00 |
=== Hobbsee could go and hand her key out to others, and tell them her passphrase | ||
seaLne | depends if you would ever want to work in the computing field :) | 03:02 |
seaLne | i'm not sure prospectve employers finding that story via google would be impressed :) | 03:02 |
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Hobbsee | in fact, the only reason i got my .gnupg/ back was that it was on imbrandon's (and stevenk's) machines | 03:04 |
seaLne | admiting that would get your key revoked in debian afaik | 03:04 |
Hobbsee | seaLne: right, i wont admit it too loudly then | 03:06 |
Hobbsee | (but how am i supposed to upload signed stuff from other machines then?) | 03:06 |
Hobbsee | seaLne: it's still protected by passphrase | 03:06 |
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=== Hobbsee shrugs too | ||
ajmitch | Hobbsee: you're admitting it in a logged channel though | 03:08 |
ajmitch | seriously.. | 03:08 |
Hobbsee | point. | 03:08 |
ajmitch | for signed stuff on other machines - see debrsign | 03:08 |
Hobbsee | ahhh... | 03:08 |
=== Hobbsee wishes someone had told her that earlier. | ||
=== ajmitch revoked his key when his laptop was stolen in montreal, even though it was protected by a passphrase | ||
Hobbsee | ajmitch: well, i considered revoking when i'd lost my local copy. but then i'd be working with an unsigned key again. | 03:09 |
ajmitch | considering that you know where other developers live, it wouldn't be a challenge | 03:09 |
Hobbsee | true, it wouldnt be as hard as the first time. | 03:10 |
seaLne | the stalking paid ff then? | 03:10 |
Hobbsee | seaLne: hmmm? | 03:10 |
ajmitch | Hobbsee: don't expect me to fly over & sign it though | 03:10 |
seaLne | joking about you knowing where they live | 03:10 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: of course, yeah | 03:11 |
=== ajmitch should find his usb stick with his key on it | ||
Hobbsee | surely that's just as evil. if that got stolen... | 03:12 |
ajmitch | it's in my room | 03:12 |
ajmitch | the only problem is that the plastic attaching it to my keyring broke recently | 03:13 |
imbrandon | thus why you keep and encrypted backup on removeable media ;) | 03:13 |
ajmitch | & the key is on an encrypted partition | 03:13 |
imbrandon | yup | 03:13 |
ajmitch | imbrandon: that is the removeable media :) | 03:13 |
imbrandon | ajmitch: yea i meant more for Hobbsee benifet | 03:14 |
=== ajmitch was also intending to leave a cd with keys at parent's place | ||
ajmitch | Hobbsee also should never have keys on any computers but her own | 03:14 |
imbrandon | probably true | 03:15 |
imbrandon | i have a copy on 3 systems but i 100% control all 3 | 03:15 |
=== ajmitch doesn't have 3 systems that really work | ||
=== ajmitch must get to bed | ||
Hobbsee | night ajmitch | 03:18 |
imbrandon | gnight | 03:18 |
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Hobbsee | toma: yay :) | 03:24 |
Hobbsee | hey, if i revoke my old key, and create a new key, and add it to LP, what happens with regarding uploading packages? | 03:25 |
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seaLne | they get automatically deleted? probably nothing | 03:27 |
Hobbsee | seaLne: i dont want to lose my upload rights :P | 03:28 |
seaLne | probably worth speaking to some people about what they think | 03:28 |
Hobbsee | yeah, asking in LP now | 03:30 |
Lure | hi all | 03:41 |
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Lure | whom should I bug if my @ubuntu.com/@kubuntu.org address is not valid again? postmaster@ubuntu.com does not seem to respond... | 03:42 |
Riddell | Lure: canonical-sysadmin | 03:44 |
Lure | Riddell: which is (or where to get him)? | 03:45 |
Riddell | Lure: see launchpad people | 03:52 |
Lure | Riddell: so on #launchpad (never had any contact with Lunchpad folks) | 03:52 |
Riddell | you can ping them on irc usually, else e-mail | 03:52 |
Hobbsee | Lure: yeah. they're not that evil | 03:52 |
Lure | Hobbsee: ;-) | 03:55 |
Hobbsee | Lure: i've yet to be overly blasted by anyone tonight | 03:56 |
Riddell | Lure: on /msg | 03:59 |
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Lure | Riddell: sure | 04:04 |
Riddell | ladies and gentlement, announcing... | 04:16 |
Riddell | HWDB client: KDE! http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/hwdb/hwdb-client-kde_0.6-0ubuntu11_all.deb | 04:17 |
Riddell | and you'll be wanting http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/hwdb/hwdb-client-common_0.6-0ubuntu11_all.deb too | 04:17 |
Riddell | ** testers needed ^^ | 04:17 |
Hobbsee | ooh fun | 04:17 |
Hobbsee | does it kill much? | 04:17 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: i've done kopete 0.12.2, btw | 04:17 |
Riddell | doesn't kill anything | 04:18 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: is 0.12.2 released? | 04:18 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: yep | 04:18 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: got packages for testing? | 04:19 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: i386, yeah | 04:19 |
Lure | Riddell: hwdb-client-common depends on python2.4-gnome2 ??? | 04:19 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: apachelogger did a diff, but i dont know *where* he got the upstream tarball from. | 04:19 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/kopete | 04:19 |
Riddell | Lure: eek, I'll fix that | 04:21 |
Lure | Riddell: also | 04:21 |
Lure | hwdb-client-common depends on python-glade2; however: | 04:21 |
Lure | hwdb-client-common depends on fping; however: | 04:21 |
Lure | not sure what fping is... | 04:21 |
Riddell | install it :) | 04:22 |
fritsch | Hobbsee: is this kopete an edgy only built? | 04:23 |
Hobbsee | fritsch: currently, yes | 04:23 |
Hobbsee | sources are there | 04:23 |
fritsch | Hobbsee: :-) so i recompile | 04:23 |
Lure | Riddell: fping is fine, but gnome2 and glade bring all the gnome uglyness ;-) | 04:23 |
fritsch | Hobbsee: but is it worth updating? | 04:24 |
Hobbsee | fritsch: dunno. i've yet to actually see a changelog | 04:25 |
toma | Riddell: http://rafb.net/paste/results/5nnUbc10.html | 04:26 |
toma | just before the uploading screen | 04:26 |
Riddell | toma: what permissions do you have on /var/log/dmesg ? | 04:27 |
Riddell | Lure: fixed version uploaded | 04:27 |
toma | Riddell: -rw-r----- 1 root adm 18175 Aug 16 11:57 /var/log/dmesg | 04:27 |
Lure | Riddell: better - thanks | 04:28 |
Riddell | toma: curious | 04:28 |
toma | Riddell: 2 problem: http://rafb.net/paste/results/kMggOj43.html | 04:28 |
Riddell | toma: it's world readable for me | 04:28 |
toma | when wanting to see my personal results on the web | 04:29 |
toma | http://rafb.net/paste/results/cDWX2q33.html for copy to clipboard, probably same problem. | 04:31 |
Lure | Riddell: show online record fails: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20765 | 04:34 |
Lure | Riddell: copy to clipboard either: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20766 | 04:35 |
Lure | Riddell: otherwise ok | 04:35 |
toma | Lure: similar to my pasts | 04:35 |
Lure | (not sure what it does) | 04:35 |
toma | Lure: you can quit it and restart it | 04:35 |
toma | Lure: then you get back to the last page | 04:35 |
Lure | toma: did not check your logs before posting... | 04:35 |
toma | Lure: and the buttons will work | 04:36 |
Lure | toma: true | 04:36 |
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Riddell | Lure, toma: fixed packages uploaded; rm ~/.hwdb before running | 04:45 |
Hobbsee | yay for new gpg keys. | 04:47 |
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Riddell | Hobbsee: test hwdb! | 04:48 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: what does it do? | 04:48 |
Riddell | gives us your secret data so we can spy on you | 04:49 |
Lure | Riddell: sure? still see this problem... | 04:49 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: oh yay. | 04:49 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: you can tell i go to MQ uni. yay. | 04:49 |
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Riddell | Lure: what do you have in ~/.hwdb? | 04:51 |
Lure | Riddell: 4afce7d0e11f935217ab6fa743e6018d | 04:51 |
Lure | Riddell: but it works when restarted (as toma said) | 04:52 |
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Hobbsee | yes...that's cos it doesnt exist anymore???? | 04:54 |
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Hobbsee | ack. | 04:56 |
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fritsch | Hobbsee: recompiling kopete on dapper did not work, one error nearly at the end dh_install -pkopete | 04:58 |
Hobbsee | fritsch: what was the error? | 04:58 |
fritsch | Hobbsee: ./debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde3/plugins/designer/libkopetewidgets.so <- does not exist | 04:58 |
Hobbsee | i *fixed* that. | 04:58 |
Hobbsee | oh shit | 04:58 |
Hobbsee | i fixed that externally, but not locally | 04:59 |
Hobbsee | and then uploaded the local bits second. | 04:59 |
fritsch | Hobbsee: :-) kopete_3.5.4+kopete0.12.2-0ubuntu1.diff.gz <- this patch i have taken | 04:59 |
Hobbsee | fritsch: yeah, yeah. | 04:59 |
Hobbsee | give me a sec to think on that. | 04:59 |
fritsch | Hobbsee: | 05:00 |
fritsch | +debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde3/plugins/designer/libkopetewidgets.so | 05:00 |
fritsch | +debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde3/plugins/designer/libkopetewidgets.la | 05:00 |
fritsch | sorry, just remove these lines, from your patch? | 05:01 |
Hobbsee | fritsch: yeah, i know waht the problem is | 05:01 |
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fritsch | Hobbsee: cool, thx | 05:01 |
Riddell | Lure, toma: ok, fix reallu uploaded now | 05:04 |
Hobbsee | anyone got something simple for me to eyeball and upload? | 05:06 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: you could remove the konqueror middle-click-scoll and close-on-tab-icons options from k-d-s | 05:07 |
Hobbsee | i dont want something that takes forever to rebuild. | 05:07 |
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Riddell | kopete 0.12.2 seems to work | 05:10 |
Hobbsee | yay | 05:10 |
Riddell | although that .deb is larger than the source package | 05:11 |
Hobbsee | which is kinda scary | 05:12 |
Hobbsee | i'm not quite sure why | 05:12 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: if you're looking to build it from source, wait about 30 seconds. | 05:12 |
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Riddell | I'm not | 05:14 |
Hobbsee | right, now its' done | 05:14 |
Hobbsee | fritsch: fixed | 05:14 |
Riddell | I'm waiting for a changelog before that | 05:14 |
Riddell | but one does not seem to exist | 05:14 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: yeah. apachelogger should have one. | 05:14 |
Hobbsee | he found one for 0.12.1 somehow | 05:14 |
Hobbsee | oh good - i couldnt find it either | 05:14 |
fritsch | Hobbsee: thx | 05:15 |
fritsch | Hobbsee: building (can take a very long time ...) | 05:16 |
Hobbsee | fritsch: no kidding. | 05:17 |
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fritsch | Hobbsee: hehe, i think your compile was also faster ... | 05:17 |
Hobbsee | true that. imbrandon has a nice build machine. | 05:18 |
Hobbsee | fritsch: i didnt rebuild then, well...i didnt rebuild the binaries, anyway | 05:18 |
Hobbsee | the binaries work, i believe | 05:18 |
Hobbsee | they work here | 05:18 |
Hobbsee | oh gosh, i dont remember if they do or not anymore... | 05:18 |
Hobbsee | yes, they have to. | 05:18 |
Hobbsee | because i changed it externally, then rebuilt. so it didnt ftbfs | 05:19 |
Hobbsee | yes. all is okay. | 05:19 |
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fritsch | Hobbsee: coffee? | 05:23 |
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Hobbsee | grr. everything seems to requre the rotten automake, which doesnt seem to want to behave tonight. | 05:23 |
Hobbsee | fritsch: i dont drink it. | 05:23 |
Hobbsee | @time sydney | 05:23 |
Ubugtu | Current time in Australia/Sydney: August 17 2006, 01:23:29 | 05:23 |
fritsch | Hobbsee: marte? <- this drink the local hackers from the ccc here | 05:23 |
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Hobbsee | apparently there's a comp quiz on tomorrow :( | 05:24 |
fritsch | Hobbsee: it`s written mate, sorry | 05:24 |
Hobbsee | on classes, so it cant be too evil | 05:24 |
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Hobbsee | and i'll have to charge my laptop overnight again. grrr. | 05:25 |
Hobbsee | bedtime. night all | 05:25 |
allee | Hobbsee: nite | 05:25 |
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Hobbsee | allee: :) what's the deal w.r.t amarok and alioth? | 05:25 |
allee | Hobbsee: Dell Laptop? My battery will be exchanged ;) | 05:25 |
Hobbsee | allee: no, this is a toshiba. but it's prone to overheating. | 05:26 |
allee | Hobbsee: ah, alioth right, well, I've to write something together | 05:26 |
Hobbsee | ok | 05:26 |
Hobbsee | allee: i've already got a stack of changes to go into ubuntu's amarok - not sure how much should go into debian's too. | 05:27 |
fritsch | Hobbsee: the Debian unstable packages had a patch, which stopped listing artists, which are only on samplers | 05:27 |
allee | Hobbsee: Okay, I feel guilty. I change TODO for tonight and write an intro | 05:28 |
Hobbsee | allee: dont feel guilty. | 05:28 |
fritsch | Hobbsee: This was cool, so you did not have "all" of them extra listed | 05:28 |
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Hobbsee | fritsch: oh nice | 05:28 |
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Hobbsee | allee: good man :) | 05:28 |
Hobbsee | uh oh, i'm about to be yelled at | 05:28 |
Hobbsee | yay...yelling.... | 05:29 |
allee | Hobbsee: sleep! then you don't hear it ;) | 05:29 |
Hobbsee | fritsch: if you have the patch handy, then either filing a bug, or emailing it to me at hobbseeATkubuntu.org would be helpful | 05:30 |
Hobbsee | in fact, do that anyway, to rmeind me | 05:30 |
Hobbsee | *remind | 05:30 |
Hobbsee | allee: hmmm.....true that. | 05:30 |
Hobbsee | maybe | 05:30 |
fritsch | Hobbsee: I will look for it | 05:30 |
allee | Hobbsee: oh, does user@ubuntu.com imply a <user>@kubunto.org address? | 05:31 |
Hobbsee | allee: not necessarily | 05:32 |
allee | k | 05:32 |
Hobbsee | im' not sure what happens with that - kubuntu members get @kubuntu addresses, and vice versa. i'm not sureif they get both | 05:32 |
Hobbsee | allee: i've got both @ubuntu.com and @kubuntu.org | 05:32 |
Hobbsee | feel free to use either | 05:32 |
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Hobbsee | iirc i sign with @ubuntu.com but use @kubuntu.org normally | 05:33 |
Hobbsee | both are listed on the same key, so it makes no difference | 05:33 |
Hobbsee | night all | 05:34 |
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toma | nite | 05:34 |
allee | works. cool I have fix my gpg key ;) | 05:34 |
allee | toma: hi | 05:35 |
Riddell | toma: did that fix your hwdb problem? | 05:35 |
toma | hey allee | 05:35 |
toma | Riddell: sorry, my cat lay down, so i could not really move | 05:35 |
toma | +on me | 05:35 |
Riddell | that happens | 05:35 |
toma | let me check | 05:35 |
toma | Riddell: same urls? | 05:38 |
Riddell | yes | 05:38 |
toma | ok, no difference in that case | 05:39 |
Riddell | really? | 05:39 |
toma | really | 05:39 |
Riddell | with latest versions? I made two fixes | 05:39 |
toma | Riddell: http://rafb.net/paste/results/TIzgmZ93.html | 05:39 |
Lure | Riddell: same here | 05:41 |
Lure | where in code (line) did you fix? | 05:41 |
Riddell | Lure: last line of dataSent() method | 05:42 |
Riddell | should be "self.hwdb_lock = md5sum" | 05:42 |
toma | not here | 05:43 |
Riddell | ok, rebuilt, try wget http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/hwdb/hwdb-client-kde_0.6-0ubuntu11_all.deb | 05:44 |
Lure | this one looks ok (from source), old one did not - trying... | 05:45 |
toma | Riddell: works ok | 05:46 |
Lure | Riddell: here too! | 05:47 |
Riddell | rocking, thanks people | 05:47 |
toma | i dont like the moving when you choose an option | 05:47 |
toma | when the arrows are shown | 05:47 |
Riddell | on the Send button? | 05:47 |
Riddell | oh, the yes/no buttons? | 05:48 |
Lure | yes, that is a bit strange - and font size before sending in huge... | 05:48 |
toma | no, on the different pages | 05:48 |
toma | Lure: indeed | 05:48 |
Lure | and I hope we get kubuntu logo and some purple... ;-) | 05:48 |
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toma | and i would like to see what i'm sending to someone, but that is maybe personal ;-) | 05:48 |
Lure | Riddell: will this get menu in Utilities? | 05:48 |
Riddell | hmm, that's broken, there should always be an arrow by the radios | 05:49 |
Riddell | Lure: it's in System | 05:49 |
toma | Riddell: i'm not seeing them for the first two options | 05:49 |
toma | which package is that? | 05:49 |
Lure | Riddell: not here... | 05:50 |
Lure | Riddell: no .desktop file in .deb so I doubt it... | 05:50 |
toma | confirmed, it is not in system | 05:51 |
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fritsch | Hobbsee: kopete successfully compiled on dapper | 05:55 |
Riddell | .desktop file added to http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/hwdb/hwdb-client-kde_0.6-0ubuntu11_all.deb | 05:57 |
Lure | Riddell: are you sure? not in the one I downloaded with wget... | 06:01 |
Lure | ;-) | 06:01 |
Riddell | works for me | 06:01 |
Lure | Riddell: no .desktop in file... | 06:02 |
Riddell | wget http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/hwdb/hwdb-client-kde_0.6-0ubuntu11_all.deb; lesspipe hwdb-client-kde_0.6-0ubuntu11_all.deb | grep desktop | 06:06 |
Riddell | -rw-r--r-- root/root 1701 2006-08-16 14:01 ./usr/share/applications/kde/hwdb-kde.desktop | 06:06 |
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bddebian | Hello | 06:15 |
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toma | Riddell: it shows in system now, even translated. | 06:19 |
Riddell | super :) | 06:20 |
Riddell | well no response from ogra, I think I'll just upload it | 06:20 |
toma | nobody told me tomalbers@kubuntu.org simply works | 06:41 |
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seaLne | toma: it works for all kubuntu-members | 07:13 |
toma | seaLne: ok, i'll use that to sign from now | 07:14 |
seaLne | @ubuntu.com aswell | 07:14 |
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toma | seaLne: any more hidden features? (like a bog build cluster or something) | 07:34 |
toma | big | 07:34 |
seaLne | not yet | 07:47 |
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Riddell | hi apachelogger, do you have the kopete changelog? | 08:01 |
apachelogger | ah, now I rember why I joined #kopete before ^^ | 08:02 |
apachelogger | Riddell: no | 08:02 |
Riddell | hmm | 08:02 |
Riddell | kinday hard to get an upstream version freeze without one | 08:02 |
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Riddell | I think we need to wait for mattr | 08:03 |
apachelogger | yeah | 08:04 |
seaLne | woot i'm now on qa team :) | 08:04 |
Riddell | yay | 08:04 |
_Sime | yuriy: Hi | 08:09 |
apachelogger | hm | 08:13 |
apachelogger | now my notebook suffers from really strange bugs | 08:13 |
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apachelogger | battery status only gets updated after it has been hibernated once | 08:14 |
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yuriy | _Sime: hi | 08:18 |
_Sime | yuriy: how is wineconfig going? | 08:18 |
_Sime | yuriy: what is working, what is left to do? | 08:19 |
_Sime | yuriy: (SoC is almost over, y/n?) | 08:19 |
yuriy | yep it is | 08:20 |
yuriy | the only outstanding issue is really the audio | 08:20 |
yuriy | right now it just offers the whole list of drivers and no way to test | 08:20 |
yuriy | i didn't realize just how bad my C is until i tried to make a patch for winebrowser.. that took a while | 08:21 |
yuriy | so the sound test isn't going to be done by the 21st | 08:21 |
yuriy | i'm working on appearance settings | 08:21 |
yuriy | that'll get done | 08:21 |
yuriy | i'll make a couple default color schemes that will try to match plastik and such | 08:22 |
yuriy | + i've forwarded whatever widget styles i found to david (the other project) | 08:23 |
_Sime | k | 08:23 |
_Sime | yuriy: when do you have to go back to school? do you think you will be doing much work on it after the 21st? | 08:24 |
yuriy | YoKoZar started working on improving the .desktop file situation recently, so menus will be improving | 08:25 |
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yuriy | _Sime: i'm moving back to school on the 23rd, but it doesn't start until the 29th, except for some training thing for work | 08:26 |
_Sime | I haven't looked at it for a while. It looks like you've done a lot. ;-) | 08:26 |
yuriy | _Sime: so other than the move-in day, i'll have next week pretty much free | 08:26 |
yuriy | _Sime: the only thing that should be not working on there right now is the color schemes box - that does nothing | 08:27 |
yuriy | + the font size sets the right setting, but doesn't seem to have any effect (i've tried it with winecfg) | 08:28 |
_Sime | yuriy: so the audio tab works, but you just can't (as user) test what you've selected. Is that right? | 08:29 |
yuriy | _Sime: also the default browser setting doesn't quite work correctly, needs a patch for winebrowser that i submitted but hasn't been accepted yet | 08:30 |
yuriy | _Sime: I don't really know what to do with the general tab right now. There aren't really any other settings that I can think of that belong on there, but I can't think of a better place to put the version either | 08:32 |
_Sime | yuriy: you could seek it onto the Applications tab. | 08:35 |
_Sime | yuriy: since in the applications tab it talks about the default/global version setting. | 08:35 |
superstoned | hey, riddell, hwdb-kde is nice, but sound doesn't play, and it feels slow. resizing, typing... if Qt4 is supposed to be fast, what is this? :D btw, i don't have nvidia driver running atm, which slows certain stuff, that might be it... or is it just slow? | 08:36 |
yuriy | _Sime: heh that's something that kind of bothered me about winecfg | 08:36 |
yuriy | _Sime: though the main thing i didn't like about it there is that it implies that you're just selecting an application to set the version for, but it actually applies to the whole dialog | 08:36 |
_Sime | yuriy: call it the Default for all applications or something. | 08:37 |
yuriy | _Sime: a couple other reasons i don't want it there: | 08:40 |
yuriy | my appications tab doesn't appear in the application specific dialog | 08:40 |
Riddell | superstoned: shouldn't be slow, although resizing isn't great due to multiple layers being drawn | 08:41 |
yuriy | and if it did, again it would just be the one setting there just like the current "general" tab | 08:41 |
superstoned | riddell: it feels like it lags when typing. bit like krita when painting ;-) | 08:42 |
yuriy | and because I think the windows version should be one of the first visible setting for the user, but the specific applications thing shouldn't | 08:42 |
yuriy | especially considering david is planning to make a context menu for .exe's that you can get to the application specific settings from | 08:42 |
superstoned | riddell: but i can't test it again, it gives me the ID, and only the ID ;-) | 08:43 |
Riddell | superstoned: typing seems fine to me, no lag and definately better than konqueror | 08:43 |
Riddell | superstoned: rm ~/.hwdb | 08:44 |
Riddell | i'll add a re-run button at some point | 08:44 |
superstoned | should this be hardware accellerated (GL, RENDER) on good drivers, btw? if not, well, it looks nice, but i already have irritations concerning drawing speed on a 2.8 ghz AMD... | 08:44 |
superstoned | ok. guess it's a coincidence, with the nv driver which is slow anyway. sucks to depend on NVidia for drivers :( | 08:44 |
Riddell | there shouldn't be anything accelarated about it | 08:50 |
yuriy | superstoned: is it just that program? i get slight occasional lag just about everywhere with nv :( | 08:51 |
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_Sime | yuriy: :-/ combine the Default Version and the libraries tab perhaps... | 09:12 |
superstoned | yuriy: well, yes, everywhere a bit, but not that bad. if i type here (konversation) my cpu doesn't go up at all, while with the hwdb tool, it goes to 100% while i type. | 09:12 |
_Sime | Riddell: what do you think about the audiocd:/ IO-slave. It is used much by normal users? | 09:28 |
Riddell | _Sime: yes I think so | 09:32 |
Riddell | at least I use it :) | 09:33 |
_Sime | Riddell: I mean for ripping CDs? | 09:33 |
yuriy | i've used it in the past but i don't know what functionality it provides over media:/hdc or system:/media/hdc other than not involving the name of your cd drive | 09:34 |
yuriy | or are those audiocd:/ in the background anyways when it's an audio cd? | 09:35 |
Riddell | _Sime: so do I | 09:38 |
Riddell | yuriy: they are | 09:39 |
yuriy | Riddell: in that case I use it and i'm sure plenty of people do | 09:45 |
yuriy | _Sime: i think i have to finally learn to use KConfig | 10:16 |
yuriy | _Sime: need a good way to store color schemes | 10:16 |
_Sime | yuriy: you mean a custom colour scheme that someone has configured in wineconfig? | 10:17 |
yuriy | _Sime: yes, or a default one that I make (which i intend to do in wineconfig myself anyway) | 10:18 |
yuriy | _Sime: i'd like to put them in a config file (wineconfigrc) which so far i haven't had a real need to use. i could also make registry keys to store them (windows has them, but they are binary andd currently not used by wine). or i could make a sepearate .reg file forr each scheme which would make them easier to apply but annoying to store | 10:20 |
_Sime | yuriy: soooo kconfig it is! | 10:21 |
nixternal | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=44331 | 10:21 |
nixternal | enjoy ;) | 10:21 |
yuriy | _Sime: i know python also has a module to store and read data structures as text, it would make it a lot easier to store and read if i could use that. but that would be incompatible with the way KDE stores configuration right? | 10:23 |
yuriy | nixternal: now only to get some nice printable sticker paper! | 10:25 |
_Sime | yuriy: true. By using kconfig you won't have to worry about _where_ the info gets stored in the user's $HOME or whatever. | 10:25 |
nixternal | hehe | 10:25 |
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=== _Sime wonders how much it would cost to have that printed as a roll of stickers... | ||
nixternal | im definitely going to find out..i did it because "System76" was providing them free to residents int he US, so i thought everyone should be able to get something similar, so i created them | 10:27 |
nixternal | you can use the avery labels, as they work great, they are 2x4...or if you had a dymo printer or whatever they are called, you can get the 2x3 labels on a roll of 500 | 10:28 |
yuriy | _Sime: yep i know. any way to combine the two? :D | 10:33 |
_Sime | yuriy: kconfig is pretty easy to use | 10:33 |
yuriy | heh did some searching on the stickers. looks like about $1.70 per custom sticker in bulk quantities | 10:34 |
yuriy | does System76 have kubuntu or just ubuntu ones? | 10:34 |
=== yuriy shudders at the 3 dozen writeEntry methods for kconfigbase | ||
nixternal | just ubuntu ones | 10:39 |
nixternal | adept notifier icon in edgy is messed up here...same with anyone else? | 10:46 |
_Sime | yuriy: just pass in what you want to write to writeEntry() and PyKDE will work out what you mean. | 10:56 |
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yuriy | _Sime: yeah i know, just saying the documentation is daunting | 11:03 |
yuriy | _Sime: btw, my desktop is still showing a battery icon that's 50% charged and has 10 minutes of battery life left ; ) | 11:04 |
yuriy | the KConfig entry looks so much like the wine/windows registry entry it's scary | 11:11 |
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nixternal | imbrandon: why do i have to look at mr. potato head on my desktop? | 11:21 |
imbrandon | becouse you complained for so long that i had a socer ball, now deal ;) | 11:22 |
nixternal | http://buntudot.org/people/~nixternal/images/mrpotato.jpg | 11:23 |
nixternal | just for you | 11:23 |
apachelogger | yuriy: http://dev.bit-freaks.net/apachelogger/poweredbykubuntu/images.html ;-) | 11:23 |
nixternal | apachelogger: you printed some already? | 11:24 |
nixternal | im doing it now as well ;) | 11:24 |
apachelogger | :D | 11:24 |
=== apachelogger didn't stick it yet | ||
nixternal | you shrunk them down and made case badges? | 11:24 |
nixternal | oh dude you rock | 11:24 |
apachelogger | last time I did stick something geeky I lost mind and went insane | 11:25 |
apachelogger | Kay that was ;-) | 11:25 |
yuriy | apachelogger: the nice primitive konqueror generated picture gallery? :P | 11:25 |
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apachelogger | hehe, nebuchadnezzar isn't yet completely installed :P | 11:26 |
apachelogger | doesn't even have kipi | 11:26 |
apachelogger | Riddell: why don't we use knet for internet connection setup? ... people told me setting up DSL with a dialup modem is hell, though knet would support a GUI way for that | 11:44 |
nixternal | apachelogger: http://www.buntudot.org/people/~nixternal/images/poweredby/PoweredByKubuntu/ | 11:58 |
nixternal | im gonna go buy some of that glossy paper in a bit ;) | 11:58 |
apachelogger | ^^ | 11:59 |
fritsch | Riddell: you kubuntu hwdb is only working on edgy? because of the pyqt qt4 dependencies? | 12:00 |
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