[12:07] Keybuk: sorry, I can't unsubsribe -archive from that bug, description has been changed now anyway [12:10] is there any lsof equivalent in python ? === tsdgeos [n=tsdgeos@kde/aacid] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:10] hi [12:10] who packages poppler for ubuntu? === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:11] mdke: I'd talk to mvo [12:11] tsdgeos: check the Lauchpad page [12:12] tsdgeos: i made the last changes [12:12] slomo: someone told me you have zlib usage enabled [12:12] ajmitch: it's probably easier to just ask mdz directly than file a bug [12:13] tsdgeos: yes... there already is a bug about it upstream that it breaks under certain conditions [12:14] upstream lol [12:14] tsdgeos: if this is fixed soon i'll leave it, otherwise disable it again [12:14] so it now our fault that you enable things that should not be enabled? [12:14] we already know its broken [12:14] tsdgeos: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7798 [12:14] that's because it's disabled [12:14] Freedesktop bug 7798 in general "Crash in StreamPredictor::getChar" [Normal,New] [12:14] don't need to show me my bugs ;-) [12:15] tsdgeos: why is there no warning or something written somewhere else about it that it must not be enabled? if it is meant to be disabled i'll disable it again, no problem :) [12:15] probably because we suck as a project [12:16] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3948 [12:16] Freedesktop bug 3948 in general "Pdf fails when using zlib based decoder instead of xpdf one" [Normal,New] [12:17] is older and is the bug i opened to convice the others to disable it [12:17] hey Ubugtu is nice, how many bugzillas does he know? === givre [n=flo@APuteaux-152-1-5-96.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:18] slomo: what also happens is that Jeff wrote the zlib based code and noone else knows much about it and he is not much around lately so it's diffcult to touch the code [12:18] mdz: ping (cdbs UVF) [12:18] tsdgeos: ok, so what's the reason why nobody changes it to be disabled? :) i'll disable it now for the ubuntu package again [12:19] slomo: it is disabled [12:19] no? [12:20] well, you mean disabled completely? === givre_ [n=flo@APuteaux-152-1-5-96.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === givre_ [n=flo@APuteaux-152-1-5-96.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] [12:21] tsdgeos: that or at least add some warning to the configure flag or have a warning in the README [12:21] yeah [12:21] you're right, i'll add a coment to the configure --help [12:22] tsdgeos: thanks :) [12:23] --disable-zlib Don't build against zlib. This is the default value [12:23] as the zlib code is know to fail in some cases. [12:23] better? [12:24] yes [12:24] oki [12:25] don't you love open source? === tsdgeos commits === Gman [n=gman@nwkea-socks-1.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:29] bye === tsdgeos [n=tsdgeos@kde/aacid] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === didymo [n=ashley@CPE-61-9-197-223.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rgould [n=rgould@S010600014a5e5049.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@rrcs-67-53-26-241.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robertj [n=robertj@66-188-77-153.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:07] I can't help but wonder ... [01:08] what happens if you pass a file descriptor (using SCM_RIGHTS) to a process that wasn't expecting one [01:08] is that a way of preventing a file from being deleted? === gort [n=jgbiggs@cpe-24-175-10-187.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jvw_ is now known as jvw === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:29] hey [01:29] hello zul === reitblatt [n=mark@cpe-68-175-12-148.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:36] hey ajmitch [01:39] 'ello everyone === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:40] Howdy === jvw [i=jeroen@220pc220.sshunet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:51] mdz: I could drop resolvconf down to suggests if you want... [01:51] lamont: out of curiosity, why did you list it as recommends in the first place? [01:52] madduck: "standard reason" [01:53] lamont: which is? i am sorry, but i really don't know. [01:53] ("it seemed like a good idea at the time", or more specifically, someone convinced me it was a good idea) [01:53] :) [01:53] but then, at the time, nothing installed even recommends automatically.... [01:53] uh. revise! :) [01:54] so it was one of those "whatever, if it'll shut you up" kind of thought processes... hence the lack of care about changing it back to suggests === lamont will deal with that in the next day or 2. [01:54] makes perfect sense. glad that mdz pointed it out. === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === welshbyte [n=welshbyt@cpc3-cwma2-0-0-cust276.swan.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:11] bluefoxicy: You around? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.160.148] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:13] hi [02:14] did I do something useful while I wasn't paying attention? [02:14] bluefoxicy: Hi. Do you have any additional input on Bug #466 ? I'm not quite sure what to do with it [02:14] Malone bug 466 in snort "Snort 2.3 Inline Support" [Wishlist,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/466 [02:14] bddebian: Additional input: Snort 2.6 is out. Snort 2.4 was also out. Why are we so far behind? :) [02:15] bddebian: besides that I'm fairly sure --enable-inline still requires a library we don't have. === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:15] bddebian: do you know what version of snort is in latest debian unstable? [02:16] http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/snort.html [02:17] 2.3.3 [02:17] same here. [02:17] I would not worry too much about inline until somebody decides to care about snort again. [02:18] At this point I would say that most people who care enough about it are going to wind up building their own anyway, since version 2.3 is deprecated and I think 2.4 is also deprecated. [02:21] actually, I'm going to file a bug on that :| [02:22] lamont: I do want [02:22] lamont: I don't think it should be installed with postfix by default === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:30] lamont: "nothing installed recommends by default at the time"? Bah. We, the dselect users, collectively spit at thee. [02:31] Hahhaa/ [02:31] bluefoxicy: So is it OK if I reject 466? [02:33] infinity: what, you and elmo? [02:33] Keybuk: And kamion. [02:33] Keybuk: And iwj. [02:33] bddebian: can you defer it for later? [02:33] infinity: Hehe [02:33] Keybuk: And that may be the entire dselect community. :) [02:33] bddebian: or is it all or nothing [02:33] bluefoxicy: I can leave it but if 2.3 is dead why bother? [02:34] bddebian: I could change the description to 2.6 later, or you could kill it and I can open a new bug if we ever get 2.6 [02:34] bluefoxicy: Why don't you package 2.6? ;-) [02:34] bddebian: honestly? Too lazy to figure out what files to split into what packages. [02:35] (i.e. too busy playing Solar Jetman on my freshly modded NES) === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:35] bddebian: I'll take a crack at it maybe but I don't want to wind up being the new maintainer. [02:36] mjg59: /etc/acpi/suspend.d/05-acpi-lock.sh does not check if the lock is triggered; see bug 31935 and patch proposed [02:36] Malone bug 31935 in acpi-support "ThinkPad, Fn-F4 leads to double unsuspend" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31935 === Fujitsu hits notification-daemon a bit. [02:40] bluefoxicy: Do you have an upstream source for snort? [02:42] bddebian: somewhere on snort.org? Or what do you mean upstream source? just the source code right/ [02:42] http://snort.org/dl/ [02:42] Yeah, just found that but I was just reading the Debian about re-distribution issues with 2.4 [02:45] bddebian: oh? I thought the code was gpl [02:46] the rules are non-distributable but that doesn't matter, 1) there's release-time GPL rules; 2) a registered feed can be used with oinkmaster legally, but the user has to get it himself. [02:46] Aye, that's what the submitter says [02:46] there was some FUD that there were "no GPL rules" and that "oinkmaster no longer works" at one place. === johanbr [n=j@jupiter.physics.ubc.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:50] bluefoxicy: Are rules distributed in the current package? [02:51] memo-to-self ... printf ("%d" % getpid ()) ... does NOT work in C [02:52] bddebian: it seems we have snort-rules-default, which snort depends on (which I think it shouldn't because rules can come straight from oinkmaster anyway... and they will destroy the files installed by snort-rules-default) [02:53] Hmm, I don't know if I want to "break" any more packages in Universe :) [02:53] Keybuk: you need a comma, not a %. :) *not helpful, but friendly* [02:53] bddebian: srd is just the gpl rules === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F5093.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:54] bluefoxicy: Ah [02:55] and they get released at every snort release so the version is the same as snort === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:55] and then there was Hobbsee [02:55] bluefoxicy: The debian maintainer claims that the number of rules would drop from 3100 to like 30 [02:56] Heya Hobbsee [02:56] hi bddebian [02:57] bddebian: I claim we don't care because 1) the current ruleset is outdated, and outdated IDS/antivirus rulesets are USELESS (this is reactive security, it's useless by default); 2) Oinkmaster works, and snort is in general an alert system and not a protection (inline is a protection), so the user has to "know what he's doing" [02:58] lemme make sure oinkmaster has 2.6 stuff [03:00] -CURRENT seems to be 2.6 yes. === TomB| [n=ownthebo@ACD5D90D.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _TomB [n=ownthebo@AC8EC06C.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cprov [n=cprov@monga.dorianet.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@rrcs-67-53-26-241.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:08] c [03:09] c [03:09] crap [03:09] Keybuk: w.r.t eric, the only change that we may need to keep is that it replaces eric3, which doesnt exist on ubuntu anyway. what changes thinking about? [03:10] dunno, didn't look [03:10] the tool just tells me that there were changes, and you didn't say in the bug that it was ok to override them [03:10] Keybuk: right. well i confirmed it, so i'm not sure why you're asking for another confirmation :P [03:10] thanks for the syncs, btw [03:10] gnomefreak didnt, i'll bug him === Hobbsee only ack'd the thing === Hobbsee reconfirms it, with the required sentence. [03:12] you just confirmed that the non-ubuntu-dev member wasn't trying to h4x0r us ;) [03:12] Keybuk: heh. true [03:12] Keybuk: i think we're all getting lazy with the numbers of syncs being requested. [03:12] Keybuk: how do you know that i'm not trying to h4x0r us? you've never met me. [03:12] in person, at least :P === TomB [n=tomb@AC8EC06C.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:12] (you're in ubuntu-dev, that's moot) [03:13] crimsun: they still havent met me to find out if i'm an axe murderer or out to kill everything off. maybe i can just talk my way thru getting -dev rights. === Hobbsee likes playing devil's advocate at times :P [03:14] Hobbsee: enough of us have met you to sign your key, at least [03:14] point. [03:14] and the same could apply to any of us [03:14] also true [03:14] fo all we know, I could be trying to bring down the archive via cdbs, for example [03:14] true [03:14] cdbs manages that all on its own [03:14] then we discuss levels of paranoia, and sensible ones. [03:14] haha [03:15] Hobbsee: it's all about trust levels ... you hung around enough doing good works that you were passed for general upload access to universe by the Technical Board [03:15] obviously you could have just been good so you could be bad once you got access [03:15] but we didn't think so [03:15] Hobbsee: and here i am thinking that you are an axe murderer [03:16] Keybuk: that's true. [03:16] plus we know where you live [03:16] zul: you may well be right. [03:16] Hobbsee: you sure you arent lizzie borden [03:16] there's something very strange about an actor from the original Stargate movie turning up in the series playing something else === Hobbsee hasnt heard of lizzie borden. [03:17] Hobbsee: google lizzie borden === Hobbsee might eat something first. [03:21] zul: and you're in luck - i couldnt carry my axe with my textbooks/laptop/etc home last night. so you'll get a few days where i cant axe murder you [03:21] hum. i lost my .ssh key. === Hobbsee deletes that off LP === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:24] Hobbsee: you have to find me first.. [03:24] zul: point. === eggauah [n=daniel@c91fa07c.cps.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:24] and i dont give out my address to no stinking axe murderers [03:25] hah [03:30] yay, debtags/adept stuff didnt get fixed. === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi [n=wasabi@ubuntu/member/wasabi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-74-185.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi [n=wasabi@ubuntu/member/wasabi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi [n=wasabi@ubuntu/member/wasabi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@rrcs-67-53-26-241.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-74-185.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:19] hrm [04:20] apparently, i'm not getting any love out of the ng-ified madwifi in -6 === mdeslaur [n=mdeslaur@modemcable196.26-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zen-afk [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === DShepherd [n=dwight@port0045-acx-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robertj [n=robertj@66-188-77-153.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robertj [n=robertj@66-188-77-153.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === foo [n=foo@unaffiliated/foo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:11] err, I am getting this; The following packages have unmet dependencies: mplayer-nogui: Depends: libggi2 (>= 1:2.0.5) but it is not installable .. broken packages. I am on ubuntu, any ideas? This sounds like an RPM issue. I left that scene ... [05:13] foo, #ubuntu === Hobbsee waves to rodarvus. [05:14] hi Hobbsee :) [05:14] rodarvus: Uh, I asked in there. No one knows. [05:14] rodarvus: you didnt manage to break my X! shame on you! [05:14] hello rodarvus [05:14] foo: edgy/dapper? [05:14] hey ajmitch [05:14] Hobbsee: Dapper, 6.06 === Hobbsee looks [05:15] Thanks [05:15] foo: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin please? [05:15] Hobbsee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20729 [05:16] thanks [05:16] thank you [05:16] foo: line 22 and 23 - you're missing a "universe" before each multiverse [05:16] fix that, update sources list, no more problem, i expect === foo crosses fingers === Hobbsee actually tests it now. [05:17] foo: yep, there's your problem. [05:18] installs fine [05:18] Ah, thank you. I was questioning my switch from debian to ubuntu, but this PEBKAC. [05:18] foo: yeah. there seem to be a *lot* of PEBKAC errors w.r.t sources lists now. they redid the page on sources lists so it couldnt just be copy and pasted anymore. [05:19] Hobbsee: lame === Hobbsee glares at whoever did it. [05:19] ubuntu-desktop wants to be removed if python-support is removed; promote python-support to main or fix whatever... hm. o.o === foo [n=foo@unaffiliated/foo] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [05:19] sarah@sarah:~$ show python-support | grep main [05:19] Filename: pool/main/p/python-support/python-support_0.4.1_all.deb [05:19] Filename: pool/main/p/python-support/python-support_0.3.8_all.deb [05:19] bluefoxicy: ^ [05:20] bluefoxicy: it's already there mate [05:21] Hobbsee: cool, mine must be outdated. === robertj [n=robertj@66-188-77-153.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bluefoxicy avoids sarah connor jokes. === Hobbsee wouldnt understand them anyway. but it's likely wise, or else i might turn into a psycopathic bitch, you never know. [05:23] Sarah Connor IS a psychopathic bitch [05:23] she's the woman from the Terminator series [05:23] ah right [05:24] in the first movie she's attacked by a robot from the future; in the second, she's in a psycho ward for believing she got attacked by a robot from the future, and has trained herself to tear the shit out of any more robots from the future she meets. [05:30] right === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.4.119.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === DShepherd [n=dwight@port0045-acx-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:50] bluefoxicy; sounds like terminator [05:51] Sarah Connor IS a psychopathic bitch\nshe's the woman from the Terminator series [05:51] you left out "in the third one she's dead of cancer" [05:52] (thanks for spoiling T3, as I hadn't seen it!) [05:53] Heh [05:53] you find out about that pretty close to the start === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:00] crimsun: I'm pretty sure that discussing the plot of a movie isn't considered a "spoiler" three years after its release. :P [06:00] crimsun: (Granted that means it probably only ran in Australia a month ago, but for everyone else in the world, there's no excuse) [06:00] hah [06:00] hehe [06:01] infinity: of course not :) === Hobbsee hasnt seen any of the movies. sad, really :P [06:04] Hobbsee: I am not much of a movie buff either. [06:04] Except for some sci-fi/fanticy stuff. === jdub wonders if there's such a thing as 'backuppcfs' (fuse way of getting to backuppc 'real' files) === DShepherd [n=dwight@port0045-acx-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:20] when I run evolution, it complains a lot about "too many open files". [06:20] is there some way to increase the limit? [06:20] it's 1024 at the moment === sharms [n=ubuntu@64.244.234.3] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:30] quest upstart% ./client -p 4950 status ping [06:30] ping (stop) [06:30] currently waiting [06:30] quest upstart% ./client -p 4950 start ping [06:30] ping (start) [06:30] currently starting, process active [06:30] quest upstart% ./client -p 4950 status ping [06:30] ping (start) [06:30] currently running, process active [06:31] quest upstart% ./client -p 4950 stop ping [06:31] ping (stop) [06:31] currently running, process killed [06:31] quest upstart% ./client -p 4950 status ping [06:31] ping (stop) [06:31] currently waiting [06:31] \o/ === Fujitsu ? === Fujitsu shudders. [06:31] That looks somewhat like a Symantec Ghost client's status log. [06:32] replace "ping" with, say, "apache" [06:32] Keybuk: yay [06:32] I'm thinking that's part of Keybuk's init New World Order. [06:32] Keybuk: But ping is a way cooler service. [06:32] I guess so. [06:32] infinity, of course. Everything needs that service. [06:32] infinity: it was the best example of a long-running process that I could think of [06:32] Apache's not important :P [06:33] Keybuk: /usr/bin/yes [06:33] crimsun: oh dear. scary init New World Order === Hobbsee hides from it. [06:33] ooh [06:33] I like it... [06:33] And replacing cron'll be fun :) [06:34] Fujitsu: yeah, but if he gets unhappy, he might just decide to break everyone's systems cos he can. [06:34] True. [06:34] fortunately I'm always happy === Fujitsu looks suspiciously at Keybuk. === Keybuk chews on more Dried Frog Pills === infinity wonders if he's the only one who's ever done "yes | sed 's/y/n/'" [06:34] heeh [06:34] nes?? [06:35] infinity, you are., [06:35] Keybuk: dried frog pills? sounds like fun [06:35] poningru: No... "yes" is a binary that just outputs "y\n" forever until killed. Handy to feed to scripts that want affirmative input. I've done the above to feed negative input. === Fujitsu runs away from scary evil doctor Remnant. [06:35] infinity: I've done s/y/something else/ before [06:35] but not /n/ === infinity assume that this makes him insane. [06:35] it's the happy you have to watch out for === poningru hides [06:36] infinity: ah did not know that === Fujitsu drops to the floor and starts convulsing, remembering the melding of dpkg and yes that was Automatix. [06:37] What I really want is /usr/bin/guess that will semi-randomly output 'y' or 'n' on a whim, or perhaps based on time of day or mood. [06:37] I like it. [06:37] /usr/bin/maybe ? [06:37] yes with attitude. [06:37] Usage: yes [STRING] ... [06:38] HrdwrBoB: Oh, don't ruin my fun. I've never read the docs for yes. Ever. === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.197.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:38] heh [06:38] HrdwrBoB: Though I suppose we all learn something new every day. [06:38] though TBH, it's like find|grep [06:38] it's easier/quicker to find|grep [06:38] than to mangle the damn find options [06:38] rofl [06:39] Do we, infinity? You sure? [06:39] HrdwrBoB: or be told off by find for getting them the wrong way around... [06:39] Fujitsu: Well, I like to pretend I do, I can't speak for everyone, I guess. [06:39] Haha. [06:39] jdub: yeah, because if you can detect something is not ordered correctly, the correct course of action is to tell the user he/she's an idiot [06:39] Of course. [06:40] (and then fail) [06:40] It doesn't fail, it just carries on. [06:40] i'm waiting for [06:40] find: warning: WHATCHOOTALKIN'BOUTWILLIS? [06:40] I think we need to modify all CLI applications to simply output RTFM\n when bad syntax is provided. [06:40] haha [06:40] that could be fun === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:43] jdub: indeed, I never knew that you'd previously been a woman === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-70.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:15] what === bluefoxicy eyes Keybuk and jdub === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-70.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:16] infinity: yes n [07:18] infinity: 'yes bitch' works too [07:23] bluefoxicy: look man we all adults and we all have heard "adult" language but from you IMHO its take to extreemes a bit, can you try to tone it down a notch over all here in -devel ? not trying to start a flame , infact no direct response at all would be ideal but if you fell the need you are welcome to PM me. Just my 0.2c === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-195-106.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Sp4rKy [n=max@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@ool-4577863a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mneptok [i=mneptok@mneptok.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:48] arr! === robitaille [i=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@ool-4577863a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === irvin [n=ipp@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:06] Good morning [08:07] morning pitti [08:08] hi pitti [08:08] hey ajmitch [08:08] moin Hobbsee === basanta [n=basanta@202.79.37.177] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dsas [n=dean@host81-158-83-91.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === DShepherd [n=dwight@port0045-acx-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@159.225-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [n=egon@p54A64B5C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:56] hi there. Who could rebuild debian-installer for edgy? It would just need to pick up new versions of the udebs [08:58] ..because libnss-dns-udeb is fixed now [08:58] tepsipakki: any core dev should be able to do that [08:59] hobbsee: you ain't one, yet?-) [08:59] tepsipakki: they denied me :P === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:59] hobbsee: damn! :) [09:00] tepsipakki: yeah, darn. hasnt been *that* much of a problem, cos i've been concentrating on uni, and universe [09:02] It'll come, eventually ;) [09:04] ..membership, that is === marilize [n=marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel === olemke [n=olemke@iup.physik.uni-bremen.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:11] tepsipakki: got membership. in fact, i get to approve other people's membership :P core is the issue [09:13] hobbsee: ah yes, I got confused.. by "membership" I meant core :) [09:13] heck, I'm a member as well [09:14] tepsipakki: yes, iirc you had memberhsip at the same time as me [09:14] yes :) [09:14] cprov-ZzZ, infinity: does soyuz have difficulties picking up new uploads? [09:18] doko: What are you missing? === carlos [n=carlos@110.Red-81-39-99.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:20] infinity: gcc-snapshot === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.160.148] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:26] infinity: java-gcj-compat on amd64 === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:29] doko: FTBFS. === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.160.148] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:30] doko: gcc-snapshot is just taking a while cause it's a universe package, and way back in the give-back queue. === infinity retries java-gcj-compat and amd64. [09:31] quest upstart% ./client -p 26881 trigger startup ping (start) starting, process 29326 active [09:31] script (start) starting, process none [09:31] script (start) running, process 29327 active [09:31] startup event triggered [09:31] thanks [09:31] \o/ [09:31] infinity: you're rebuilding an architecture? :P [09:31] Keybuk: got my mail about zope, CC'ed to Fabio? [09:32] doko: yeah, but I didn't understand it [09:32] you seemed to answer your own question *shrug* [09:33] ? [09:34] how can you use bzr for Debian and Ubuntu when they freeze at different times ... [09:34] ... use two branches [09:34] call one "debian" and the other "ubuntu" === kagou [n=kagou@84.7.175.247] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:35] Keybuk: right, can we do that using the LP repository? technically: yes, is it wanted? === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-63-43.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:35] yes, yes [09:36] the LP repository is just a place to mirror it [09:36] or store it [09:39] ok, thanks [09:39] mvo: ok, so I fixed the Depends: parsing bug after all, since it also breaks caudium [09:40] pitti: ah, nice! === mvo hugs pitti [09:40] who do i ask for daily iso builds ? === pitti hugs mvo back [09:41] infinity: gnat-4.1 needs manual intervention, will query you [09:43] TheMuso: ok, pkg-create-dbgsym 0.11 uploaded; as soon as it's in the archive, caudium can be given-back [09:45] doko: Mmkay. [09:46] pitti: And by "given-back", you mean "removed from the archive", right? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.160.148] has joined #ubuntu-devel === infinity has yet to find anyone, other than caudium hackers, who actually uses caudium. [09:47] infinity: well, TheMuso just pointed me to http://librarian.launchpad.net/3915685/buildlog_ubuntu-edgy-i386.caudium_2%3A1.4.7-14.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:47] infinity: personally I don't care for caudium itself :) === Fujitsu_ [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-63-43.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:55] shawarma: ping [09:55] shawarma: can you please merge asterisk again to pick up the security fix? [09:59] so, could some core-dev rebuild debian-installer for edgy? === Spads [n=crack@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:11] tepsipakki: Kamion tends to prefer to be the only person who uploads d-i, but I suppose I could make an exception, given that he's off... [10:13] infinity: thanks :) [10:14] infinity: I think there's no harm in uploading it.. the current version is broken anyway === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dsas [n=dean@host86-129-23-247.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:16] tepsipakki: Yeah, I know. [10:16] tepsipakki: I broke it. I should know. :) [10:16] tepsipakki: I was counting on Colin doing a d-i upload before he took off on his vacation, but that didn't happen, s'all. *shrug* [10:20] mvo: anacron have a quite old change pending; see bug 36816 [10:20] Malone bug 36816 in anacron "Anacron doesn't work with suspend/hibernation" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36816 [10:21] -have+has [10:21] infinity: :) I'll look forward to testing it today.. maybe I'll finally reinstall my laptop with edgy, too === lloydinho [n=andreas@192.38.119.73] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lukketto [n=lukketto@host141-193.pool877.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:29] Kaleo: from what I see this needs to be added to acpi-support [10:30] Kaleo: hm, maybe not ... [10:33] mvo: do you have access to fix bugs in dapper-commercial? === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TMM [n=hp@ip5650d1ab.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:39] I'm wondering if anybody would be able to help me fix up a problem I am having with a universe merge. More specifically, the package fails to build on powerpc, whereas it succeeds on i386. [10:39] The build log is http://www.themuso.id.au/ubuntu/xawtv-powerpc-build.log [10:40] I recently did a merge for this package, which was uploaded. The package failed to build on ia64 and powerpc, but build alright on the other arches. [10:40] There is now an updated merge, and since this problem still persists in the new version, I would like to include a fix to make it build successfully on all arches before I upload the merge. [10:40] mdke: I should have, yes [10:41] TheMuso: hmm, error: 'PAGE_MASK' undeclared could be a difference in l-kernel-headers? [10:42] mvo: the slight problem is that I don't think bug reports are going to the right place. Take "realplayer" for example... it is getting reported on realplayer, but I think that refers to the package in multiverse. bug 52484 would be a 30 second fix, but I don't think people who can work on dapper-commercial have got bug mail about it [10:42] Malone bug 52484 in realplayer "Realplayer is in Graphics submenu, not Sound & Video." [Untriaged,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52484 [10:42] pitti: Not sure. The build chroots showed the same problem when the original merge was uploaded. [10:42] I hadn't thought of checking on ppc at the time, as it built on i386, and a MOTU confirmed that as well. [10:45] mdke: I fixed this in my latest upload [10:45] mdke: its not gone accepted yet though [10:45] mvo: cool, good news. what do you think about the issue of reporting bugs on dapper-commercial packages? [10:46] mdke: maybe we could add a tag for those? or create a group? I guess a group is the better choice [10:46] mvo: but do the packages exist for bugs to be filed on distros/ubuntu? === mneptok [i=mneptok@mneptok.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [10:47] distros/ubuntu/+source/opera doesn't exist, nor does /realplay [10:47] Launchpad is going down in 15 mins for its regular code update. Estimated downtime is under 10 minutes. === cymcy [n=cymcy@d213-103-232-77.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:48] mdke: hm, right === twilight_ [n=twilight@d83-176-30-14.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:51] Ok, it seems that powerpc doesn't have/use asm/page.h. For powerpc, it is only a stub, so I need the help of someone who understands the differences between powerpc and i386 framebuffer as well as the headers to work this one out. === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:53] mvo: I guess LP isn't used for dapper commercial? [10:53] s/LP/soyuz [10:53] mdke: correct [10:54] ah === geser [n=michael@85.25.104.205] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:58] infinity: it's as if you've never read a UNIX text book. [10:59] infinity: gar. was in scroll back with you talking about arguments to "yes" [10:59] ignore me === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-206-143.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === basanta [n=basanta@202.79.37.177] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:07] pitti, poke again :) [11:07] hey pygi [11:07] hey hey pitti [11:07] I would have questions again :) [11:08] why would I get "/usr/include/libburn/0/libburn/" instead of normal "usr/include/libburn/libburn/"? [11:09] pygi: I don't know, broken build system? [11:09] pygi: also, i/libburn0/ might be more appropriate === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-067-073.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:09] pygi: well, usually one API is enough at a time, so /usr/include/libburn/ sounds sufficient as well [11:09] pitti, broken build system yes, I just don't know which part ^_^ [11:10] pygi: some Makefile.am part probably, but I know little about autofoo [11:11] pitti, ahm,oki, will explore [11:11] pitti, you wanna test libburn by burning iso file?:) [11:11] I'll probably do it that way, sure [11:12] you can already do so, if you are willing [11:12] pygi: not right now, but maybe this afternoon? maybe you can mail me a link and some short instructions [11:12] ? [11:12] pitti, sure [11:14] thanks for the help === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:18] pitti, ah, weird me :) [11:18] libincludedir=$(includedir)/libburn/@BURN_MAJOR_VERSION@/libburn [11:18] ah, there you go [11:18] should I add minor version, or there is no need to have two api's at a time? [11:18]