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nixternaljjesse: i think this is the longest online streak i have seen from you in some time ;)12:16
LaserJock:-)12:23
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robotgeeknixternal: ping02:35
robotgeekbtw, i should be working in trunk, right?02:44
LaserJockyes02:44
robotgeekhey LaserJock , how goes it?02:44
LaserJockok02:45
LaserJockrealy busy :-)02:45
LaserJockhow about you?02:45
robotgeeksame here, started working. looks like i am going to have to go back to school because of visa issues. 02:45
LaserJock:/02:46
LaserJockwhere are you living these days?02:46
robotgeekhuntsville, al02:46
crimsunthat's not a bad thing02:47
crimsunnormally doctoral students are much better funded than masters02:47
crimsunand you get an extra few years to twiddle your sponsors' money02:47
crimsun(no, I'm not cynical at all)02:47
LaserJockhehe02:47
robotgeekheh. 02:47
jsgotangcoheh02:48
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nixternalwhats up robotgeek?02:52
robotgeeknixternal: how about we split up the KDG02:53
nixternalwe can do that02:53
nixternali hadn't realized i was working on that just yet ;)02:53
nixternaloh ya, i replied saying i could help, thats right02:53
robotgeekheh02:53
nixternaljust read your email02:53
LaserJocklol02:54
nixternalman...digg is in the process of killing the new usernetwork02:54
LaserJockyou know you're doing too much when you start forgeting you signed up for things :-)02:54
LaserJockreally?02:55
nixternalheh, and that was within the last 24 hours02:55
LaserJocknixternal: got a link for digg?02:55
nixternalgoogle.com02:56
nixternallol02:56
robotgeeklol02:56
nixternalLaserJock: it is on the front page02:56
nixternalwww.digg.com02:56
nixternali almost did diff..i only created 30 of um today02:56
nixternali see our new quote of the day02:56
nixternalKJay says "Wow, looks like Ubuntu is the new Apple."02:56
crimsunthat's kinda insulting.02:58
nixternalheh02:58
nixternali like the poeple who are like, ubuntu and linux need to figure out how apple does all their stuff with a gui, and with linux you still have to use the terminal...just like the us gov't, always wanting to dumb things down02:59
LaserJockhmm, I've had a lot more frustration with OS X than Ubuntu03:01
LaserJockbut that might be because I want OS X to behave like Ubuntu ;-)03:01
nixternali can't stand osx03:02
LaserJockI'm liking it a lot more after I kinda let go of Ubuntu habits03:02
LaserJock"don't try to bend the spoon" or something like that03:02
nixternalhehe03:03
LaserJockqucksilver is awesome03:04
robotgeekin kde, i have same keyboard shortcuts as in OS X. just cause os x wont behave like kde 03:04
LaserJockbut unfortunately I reinstalled OS X the other day and now I don't have MS Office03:05
LaserJockwhich I kinda need03:05
LaserJockI feel so dirty :-)03:06
LaserJockI hate needing MS crap, grrr :(03:06
jsgotangcoi am glad i am in a work that doesnt require me to do MS stuff03:07
LaserJockoh my goodness03:08
LaserJockand now Firefox is crashing all the time03:08
LaserJockwhat a day03:08
jsgotangcofirefox on xp?03:08
LaserJockI started out with 2 edgy dist-upgrades going bad03:08
LaserJockOS X03:08
jsgotangcoi heard safari isn't like great at all?03:08
LaserJockactually no OS X browsers are that great03:08
LaserJockI've tried safari, camino, opera, and firefox03:09
jsgotangcohow does opera stack up?03:09
LaserJockand they all stink to varying extents03:09
LaserJockopera's not bad03:09
LaserJockbut they all vary in their level of integration with OS X03:09
LaserJockexcellent, now firefox won't even start up03:10
jsgotangcoi would say opera would be most stable among those you mentioned03:10
jsgotangcoits pretty consistent in most platforms ive used03:10
jsgotangcoeven on my mobile phone03:10
jsgotangcoor my nintendo ds even03:11
LaserJockyeah, I like opera ok03:11
LaserJockI don't know, I've never really found a browser I've liked03:11
jsgotangcoive just warmed to epi03:13
LaserJockyeah, I did for a while too03:13
jsgotangcobut opera has this really nasty bug of suddenly going berzerk and open up its own instance without any toolbars03:14
robotgeeknasty03:14
LaserJockwell, as far as I can tell all OS X browsers have nasty tab behavior03:14
jsgotangcos/opera/epi03:14
robotgeekanyways, gotta cook food. later03:15
jsgotangcoopera just doesn't look great in linux either03:15
jsgotangcofonts rendering isnt consistent03:15
LaserJockok, well OS X is acting real odd, like it's going to explode into tiny bits any second03:18
LaserJockI think I'll reboot03:18
LaserJockbrb03:18
LaserJock:-)03:18
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LaserJockhmm, well that was fun03:24
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Madpilotright, I've basicaly decided that LP karma is mostly random... I've done nothing, zip on LP for at least a week, but I seem to have gained around 10,000 karma points...12:16
mptMadpilot, that's kind of a design bug in the way karma is distributed12:36
Madpilotis it connected to activity by the teams I'm part of, or is that karma gain really just random?12:37
mptMadpilot, currently if people do more work in (for example) specifications, that makes less karma available overall for (for example) bugs and translations12:38
mptI just showed your complaint to sabdfl and we agreed the current approach was kinda bong :-)12:39
mptso I'll talk to stub about it12:39
Madpilotheh. I know LP is very much a work-in-progress... the random nature of karma is actually quite amusing ;)12:40
mptYes, but time is one of the dimensions of design12:41
mptSo for example, if people learn to ignore karma now, they'll keep ignoring it even once it becomes accurate12:41
Madpilottrue12:43
lloydinhoI wrote a huge blogpost comparing various karma systems, if you're interested:01:04
lloydinhohttp://eskar.dk/andreas/blog/?p=15401:04
Kamping_Kaiserhi lloydinho 01:17
lloydinhohi Kamping_Kaiser01:19
lloydinhoKamping_Kaiser, thank you for the praise on the Karma article. Much appreciated. :-)01:21
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Kamping_Kaiserlloydinho, np, it was a good read :)01:23
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dsas"If this book sells well, there will be another, and we can keep having a high quality official guide for Ubuntu." heh02:25
jsgotangcoheh that sounds a bit hmmmm02:28
jsgotangconot so promising? heh02:28
dsasDunno, It's from Jono Bacons blog. I was just hehing at needing to buy the book in order to have a high quality official guide.02:30
jsgotangcoyeah there is some irony of sorts02:30
jsgotangcodepends on how you interpret the statement i guess02:30
dsasI suppose. Though I've only read the sample chapters of the book anyway, so I'm probably not the best placed to comment.02:32
jsgotangcosame here02:35
jsgotangcowe'll see amazon reviews soon though02:35
mpt"Guide" is a weasel term :-)02:38
jsgotangcoouch planet ubuntu demon02:57
jsgotangco"At first the NUN was nothing more than an IRC channel (#ubuntu-nun on the freenode network) that we could bring a user from #kubuntu or #ubuntu into, for one-on-one work that couldn't be done in the busier support channels. Since then, it has become a popular haven for geeks and new users alike," says Rich Johnson, a NUN mentor.04:27
jsgotangconixternal: ^^04:27
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nixternalBurgwork: hangin' out with Adam I see ;)  smack him around and tell him to hurry up and get ubuntuchicago blog rollin' ;)10:52
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