[12:16] <nixternal> jjesse: i think this is the longest online streak i have seen from you in some time ;)
[12:23] <LaserJock> :-)
[02:35] <robotgeek> nixternal: ping
[02:44] <robotgeek> btw, i should be working in trunk, right?
[02:44] <LaserJock> yes
[02:44] <robotgeek> hey LaserJock , how goes it?
[02:45] <LaserJock> ok
[02:45] <LaserJock> realy busy :-)
[02:45] <LaserJock> how about you?
[02:45] <robotgeek> same here, started working. looks like i am going to have to go back to school because of visa issues. 
[02:46] <LaserJock> :/
[02:46] <LaserJock> where are you living these days?
[02:46] <robotgeek> huntsville, al
[02:47] <crimsun> that's not a bad thing
[02:47] <crimsun> normally doctoral students are much better funded than masters
[02:47] <crimsun> and you get an extra few years to twiddle your sponsors' money
[02:47] <crimsun> (no, I'm not cynical at all)
[02:47] <LaserJock> hehe
[02:47] <robotgeek> heh. 
[02:48] <jsgotangco> heh
[02:52] <nixternal> whats up robotgeek?
[02:53] <robotgeek> nixternal: how about we split up the KDG
[02:53] <nixternal> we can do that
[02:53] <nixternal> i hadn't realized i was working on that just yet ;)
[02:53] <nixternal> oh ya, i replied saying i could help, thats right
[02:53] <robotgeek> heh
[02:53] <nixternal> just read your email
[02:54] <LaserJock> lol
[02:54] <nixternal> man...digg is in the process of killing the new usernetwork
[02:54] <LaserJock> you know you're doing too much when you start forgeting you signed up for things :-)
[02:55] <LaserJock> really?
[02:55] <nixternal> heh, and that was within the last 24 hours
[02:55] <LaserJock> nixternal: got a link for digg?
[02:56] <nixternal> google.com
[02:56] <nixternal> lol
[02:56] <robotgeek> lol
[02:56] <nixternal> LaserJock: it is on the front page
[02:56] <nixternal> www.digg.com
[02:56] <nixternal> i almost did diff..i only created 30 of um today
[02:56] <nixternal> i see our new quote of the day
[02:56] <nixternal> KJay says "Wow, looks like Ubuntu is the new Apple."
[02:58] <crimsun> that's kinda insulting.
[02:58] <nixternal> heh
[02:59] <nixternal> i like the poeple who are like, ubuntu and linux need to figure out how apple does all their stuff with a gui, and with linux you still have to use the terminal...just like the us gov't, always wanting to dumb things down
[03:01] <LaserJock> hmm, I've had a lot more frustration with OS X than Ubuntu
[03:01] <LaserJock> but that might be because I want OS X to behave like Ubuntu ;-)
[03:02] <nixternal> i can't stand osx
[03:02] <LaserJock> I'm liking it a lot more after I kinda let go of Ubuntu habits
[03:02] <LaserJock> "don't try to bend the spoon" or something like that
[03:03] <nixternal> hehe
[03:04] <LaserJock> qucksilver is awesome
[03:04] <robotgeek> in kde, i have same keyboard shortcuts as in OS X. just cause os x wont behave like kde 
[03:05] <LaserJock> but unfortunately I reinstalled OS X the other day and now I don't have MS Office
[03:05] <LaserJock> which I kinda need
[03:06] <LaserJock> I feel so dirty :-)
[03:06] <LaserJock> I hate needing MS crap, grrr :(
[03:07] <jsgotangco> i am glad i am in a work that doesnt require me to do MS stuff
[03:08] <LaserJock> oh my goodness
[03:08] <LaserJock> and now Firefox is crashing all the time
[03:08] <LaserJock> what a day
[03:08] <jsgotangco> firefox on xp?
[03:08] <LaserJock> I started out with 2 edgy dist-upgrades going bad
[03:08] <LaserJock> OS X
[03:08] <jsgotangco> i heard safari isn't like great at all?
[03:08] <LaserJock> actually no OS X browsers are that great
[03:09] <LaserJock> I've tried safari, camino, opera, and firefox
[03:09] <jsgotangco> how does opera stack up?
[03:09] <LaserJock> and they all stink to varying extents
[03:09] <LaserJock> opera's not bad
[03:09] <LaserJock> but they all vary in their level of integration with OS X
[03:10] <LaserJock> excellent, now firefox won't even start up
[03:10] <jsgotangco> i would say opera would be most stable among those you mentioned
[03:10] <jsgotangco> its pretty consistent in most platforms ive used
[03:10] <jsgotangco> even on my mobile phone
[03:11] <jsgotangco> or my nintendo ds even
[03:11] <LaserJock> yeah, I like opera ok
[03:11] <LaserJock> I don't know, I've never really found a browser I've liked
[03:13] <jsgotangco> ive just warmed to epi
[03:13] <LaserJock> yeah, I did for a while too
[03:14] <jsgotangco> but opera has this really nasty bug of suddenly going berzerk and open up its own instance without any toolbars
[03:14] <robotgeek> nasty
[03:14] <LaserJock> well, as far as I can tell all OS X browsers have nasty tab behavior
[03:14] <jsgotangco> s/opera/epi
[03:15] <robotgeek> anyways, gotta cook food. later
[03:15] <jsgotangco> opera just doesn't look great in linux either
[03:15] <jsgotangco> fonts rendering isnt consistent
[03:18] <LaserJock> ok, well OS X is acting real odd, like it's going to explode into tiny bits any second
[03:18] <LaserJock> I think I'll reboot
[03:18] <LaserJock> brb
[03:18] <LaserJock> :-)
[03:24] <LaserJock> hmm, well that was fun
[12:16] <Madpilot> right, I've basicaly decided that LP karma is mostly random... I've done nothing, zip on LP for at least a week, but I seem to have gained around 10,000 karma points...
[12:36] <mpt> Madpilot, that's kind of a design bug in the way karma is distributed
[12:37] <Madpilot> is it connected to activity by the teams I'm part of, or is that karma gain really just random?
[12:38] <mpt> Madpilot, currently if people do more work in (for example) specifications, that makes less karma available overall for (for example) bugs and translations
[12:39] <mpt> I just showed your complaint to sabdfl and we agreed the current approach was kinda bong :-)
[12:39] <mpt> so I'll talk to stub about it
[12:40] <Madpilot> heh. I know LP is very much a work-in-progress... the random nature of karma is actually quite amusing ;)
[12:41] <mpt> Yes, but time is one of the dimensions of design
[12:41] <mpt> So for example, if people learn to ignore karma now, they'll keep ignoring it even once it becomes accurate
[12:43] <Madpilot> true
[01:04] <lloydinho> I wrote a huge blogpost comparing various karma systems, if you're interested:
[01:04] <lloydinho> http://eskar.dk/andreas/blog/?p=154
[01:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi lloydinho 
[01:19] <lloydinho> hi Kamping_Kaiser
[01:21] <lloydinho> Kamping_Kaiser, thank you for the praise on the Karma article. Much appreciated. :-)
[01:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> lloydinho, np, it was a good read :)
[02:25] <dsas> "If this book sells well, there will be another, and we can keep having a high quality official guide for Ubuntu." heh
[02:28] <jsgotangco> heh that sounds a bit hmmmm
[02:28] <jsgotangco> not so promising? heh
[02:30] <dsas> Dunno, It's from Jono Bacons blog. I was just hehing at needing to buy the book in order to have a high quality official guide.
[02:30] <jsgotangco> yeah there is some irony of sorts
[02:30] <jsgotangco> depends on how you interpret the statement i guess
[02:32] <dsas> I suppose. Though I've only read the sample chapters of the book anyway, so I'm probably not the best placed to comment.
[02:35] <jsgotangco> same here
[02:35] <jsgotangco> we'll see amazon reviews soon though
[02:38] <mpt> "Guide" is a weasel term :-)
[02:57] <jsgotangco> ouch planet ubuntu demon
[04:27] <jsgotangco> "At first the NUN was nothing more than an IRC channel (#ubuntu-nun on the freenode network) that we could bring a user from #kubuntu or #ubuntu into, for one-on-one work that couldn't be done in the busier support channels. Since then, it has become a popular haven for geeks and new users alike," says Rich Johnson, a NUN mentor.
[04:27] <jsgotangco> nixternal: ^^
[10:52] <nixternal> Burgwork: hangin' out with Adam I see ;)  smack him around and tell him to hurry up and get ubuntuchicago blog rollin' ;)