[01:29] <zul> hey
[07:19] <AnAnt> what is the version of ieee80211 & ipw2200 that is in Edgy ?
[07:22] <crimsun> git-1.1.13 and git-1.1.1, respectively
[07:25] <AnAnt> is there a reason that the latest versions are not used ?
[07:28] <crimsun> because they're in 2.6.17?
[07:28] <crimsun> have you asked Ben to pull from upstream's git overlays, etc.?
[07:28] <crimsun> (or provided patches)
[07:32] <AnAnt> oh
[07:32] <AnAnt> Ben who ?
[07:32] <AnAnt> what does upstream's git overlays mean ?
[07:34] <crimsun> AnAnt: BenC; the git overlays refer to what's referenced on {ieee80211,ipw2200}.sf.net
[07:34] <AnAnt> oh
[07:34] <AnAnt> BenC is a bot ?
[07:35] <crimsun> no, he's a real live human being who happens to be the kernel lead.
[07:35] <AnAnt> oh
[07:35] <AnAnt> oh, you mean that Ben=Benc
[07:35] <AnAnt> that was 2 answers
[07:35] <AnAnt> ok, I got it, thanks
[07:36] <AnAnt> you got an idea how to install new firmware for ipw2200 ?
[07:36] <AnAnt> yes, I will ask BenC
[07:36] <AnAnt> BenC: u awake ?
[07:37] <crimsun> new firmware? I don't see anything referenced on http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/firmware.php
[07:37] <AnAnt> I downloaded the firmware, but dunno how to install it
[07:38] <crimsun> AnAnt: it's already included in both Dapper and Edgy linux-image* binary packages.
[07:39] <TheMuso> AFAIK it has actually been inclulded as early as warty/hoary, but I am not entirely sure about that.
[07:39] <crimsun> Breezy I think was the earliest.
[07:40] <TheMuso> Right. Well I am pretty sure the 2100 firmware was included earlier.
[07:40] <crimsun> oh, sorry, Hoary.
[07:41] <AnAnt> crimsun: what is included ? the firmware ?
[07:42] <AnAnt> crimsun: you mean the latest version of firmware is already included ? how can I check that, do you know ?
[07:42] <crimsun> AnAnt: the latest is in Dapper & Edgy.
[07:43] <AnAnt> crimsun: thanks 
[07:43] <crimsun> TheMuso: well, apparently (happily) I'm incorrect. It's in Warty, too.
[07:43] <TheMuso> Right.
[07:43] <TheMuso> Because I remember just being able to use my ipw2100 on my notebook in warty without any problems.
[07:44] <crimsun> must be my senility ;)
[07:44] <TheMuso> Not at all.
[07:44] <dilinger> anyone know what the timeline is for the next dapper kernel?
[07:44] <dilinger> i see benc's last commit was 5 days ago or so
[07:46] <TheMuso> ...or maybe not.
[07:54] <AnAnt> crimsun: ok, if I compile new versions of ipw2200 & ieee80211 will I need to reinstall the firmware ?
[07:57] <crimsun> no
[07:57] <AnAnt> cool
[07:58] <AnAnt> thanks
[02:05] <zul> hey
[02:06] <ajmitch> hi zul 
[03:02] <zul> .win 10
[03:02] <zul> damn it
[03:32] <hackdown> hi guys
[03:55] <fabbione> BenC: 
[03:55] <fabbione> headers-i386            i386                    x86_64
[03:55] <fabbione> this is in debian/config/archmap
[03:55] <fabbione> x86_64 ?
[03:56] <fabbione> (edgy)
[04:25] <BenC> fabbione: the i386 hdr_install target only installs the x86 headers
[04:26] <BenC> while the x86_64 target installs the x86 and x86_64 headers
[04:26] <fabbione> yeah but that map was supposed to install the x86 headers
[04:26] <fabbione> so you are shipping both in both x8 and x86_64...
[04:26] <fabbione> x86 even
[04:26] <fabbione> if so it's all good
[04:26] <BenC> we are shipping both in i386 and amd64
[04:27] <fabbione> yup ok then
[04:27] <fabbione> you win :)
[04:27] <BenC> :)
[04:27] <fabbione> BenC: i am going to take some fancy hw down to Germany so we can have some fun
[04:27] <fabbione> i have a bunch of flash/memory cards for pcmcia
[04:27] <fabbione> a webcam
[04:27] <BenC> any ide-cd pcmcia type cards?
[04:27] <BenC> err, ide-cs
[04:28] <fabbione> nope :(
[04:28] <fabbione> i can get scsi-cs
[04:28] <fabbione> from gdd
[04:28] <BenC> ide-cs is causing some crashes in certain situations
[04:28] <fabbione> but i am not sure if i will get to see him before i get down to germany
[04:28] <mjg59> Flash for PCMCIA is generally ide-cs
[04:29] <fabbione> ok
[04:29] <fabbione> i don't remember how linux look at them
[04:29] <fabbione> they are old intel flash
[04:29] <fabbione> and i remember i managed to make them work once with 2.4
[04:29] <fabbione> that's it
[04:29] <Mithrandir> I could bring an pcmcia-to-smartmedia card with some memory.  Would that do?
[04:30] <mjg59> Almost certainly
[10:02] <zul> right im heading home for a nap c ya later
[10:33] <mdz> BenC: I will bring Mark's device (the one I reported a bug about) to Wiesbaden
[10:34] <BenC> mdz: ok, Mark promised me some keyboard time on his system in Wiesbaden for that and two other bugs
[10:34] <BenC> he's not going to be there?
[10:34] <mdz> he is
[10:34] <mdz> but I have his PCMCIA card
[10:35] <mdz> here with me
[10:36] <BenC> I may be able to test that directly on my pb
[11:47] <zul> hey
[12:02] <dilinger> BenC: what kind of timeframe are you planning for the next dapper kernel upload?
[12:03] <dilinger> i'm currently using a git snapshot for a cd; it would be nice to use a proper release :)