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Next meeting: Edubuntu in 8 hours 58 minutes [01:10] !ping me === dsas [n=dean@host86-128-51-213.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === markit86 [n=markit86@80-41-62-166.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === irvin [n=ipp@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === irvin [n=ipp@ubuntu/member/irvin] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === vouzico [n=herve@ip-83-99-98-115.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AFDCA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === vouzico [n=herve@ip-83-99-98-115.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === MagicFab [n=magicfab@modemcable113.78-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === thekorn [n=markus@a81-14-151-213.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:53] @schedule manila [02:53] Schedule for Asia/Manila: 17 Aug 04:00: Edubuntu | 18 Aug 07:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 23 Aug 00:00: Community Council | 23 Aug 20:00: Edubuntu | 24 Aug 15:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 30 Aug 04:00: Technical Board [02:53] YAY [02:54] @schedule oslo [02:54] Schedule for Europe/Oslo: 16 Aug 22:00: Edubuntu | 18 Aug 01:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 22 Aug 18:00: Community Council | 23 Aug 14:00: Edubuntu | 24 Aug 09:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 29 Aug 22:00: Technical Board [02:54] @schedule wiesbaden [02:54] @schedule frankfurt [02:55] try Berlin [02:56] yeah, germany is somehow reduced to it ... :) [02:57] @schedule Munich [02:57] outrageious [02:57] @schedule berlin [02:57] Schedule for Europe/Berlin: 16 Aug 22:00: Edubuntu | 18 Aug 01:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 22 Aug 18:00: Community Council | 23 Aug 14:00: Edubuntu | 24 Aug 09:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 29 Aug 22:00: Technical Board [02:59] ogra, well, according to timezones, brazil is reduced to Sao_Paulo [03:00] imperial capitals! [03:00] (I think brazil is at least about 10-15x bigger than Germany ;) [03:00] probably Sao Paulo is 10-15x bigger than Berlin as well [03:03] nah, berlin is rather big (3.5 million habitants) [03:04] Sao Paulo only has 17 million habitants :D [03:04] oO === nalioth_ [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === DarkSun88 [n=michele@85-18-14-37.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === DarkSun88 [n=michele@85-18-14-37.fastres.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Sto] === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AD304.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm2-0-75146.0x535a2f1e.vgnxx2.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mvo [n=egon@p54A65EA7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === j_ack [n=rudi@p508DC01F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [04:12] @schedule montreal [04:12] Schedule for America/Montreal: 16 Aug 16:00: Edubuntu | 17 Aug 19:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 22 Aug 12:00: Community Council | 23 Aug 08:00: Edubuntu | 24 Aug 03:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 29 Aug 16:00: Technical Board [04:13] @now [04:14] Current time in Etc/UTC: August 16 2006, 14:14:03 - Next meeting: Edubuntu in 5 hours 45 minutes === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === sfllaw [i=sfllaw@debian/developer/coleSLAW] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === lfittl [n=lfittl@85-125-147-132.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === PWill [n=paul@cpe-24-208-191-36.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === airjump [n=MZ@p508ACDB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === j_ack [n=rudi@p508DC01F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === airjump [n=MZ@p508ACDB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === lfittl [n=lfittl@85-125-227-23.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === j_ack [n=rudi@p508DC01F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mhz [n=mhz@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === NickGarvey [n=nick@unaffiliated/nickgarvey] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ozamosi [n=ozamosi@ubuntu/member/ozamosi] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === MagicFab [n=magicfab@modemcable113.78-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === highvoltage [n=jonathan@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === PWill [n=paul@cpe-24-208-191-36.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === GreyStar_ [n=SoS@cpe-24-167-43-76.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #Ubuntu-Meeting === PWill [n=paul@cpe-24-208-191-36.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Hawkwind [n=SoS@ulteo/community/leader/forum/admin/Hawkwind] has joined #Ubuntu-Meeting === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:44] @schedule johannesburg [09:44] Schedule for Africa/Johannesburg: 16 Aug 22:00: Edubuntu | 18 Aug 01:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 22 Aug 18:00: Community Council | 23 Aug 14:00: Edubuntu | 24 Aug 09:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 29 Aug 22:00: Technical Board === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Current meeting: Edubuntu | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 17 Aug 23:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 22 Aug 16:00 UTC: Community Council | 23 Aug 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 24 Aug 07:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 29 Aug 20:00 UTC: Technical Board === mvo [n=egon@p54A65EA7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === airjump [n=airjump@p508ACDB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === willvdl [n=will@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:57] So, where's the doughnuts? [09:57] Not a proper meeting without doughnuts === cbx33 passes a doughnut to sbalneav [09:58] Ah, perfect. [09:58] sbalneav, and to drink sir? [09:58] we have a very rich '68 [09:58] Ummmm.... Coffee. Double Double. [09:58] hehe [09:58] coming right up === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-146-141-75.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:59] Thank you. Service here is excellent. I'll be back. [09:59] hi ... back in 2 mins ... [09:59] w00t, my work here is done === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === RichEd shakes up a martini for sbalneav [10:00] Man, a martini!?! I gotta come to these meetings more often. [10:00] hi guys [10:00] hey rodarvus === highvoltage sees that the south africans are gaining market share here :) === sbalneav puts on his red robe and Fez and changes into slippers. [10:00] evening === cbx33 sips his earl grey [10:00] hi ogra [10:00] hey ogra [10:00] hello ogra [10:00] dang it man..../me reaches for the diet coke, and passes one to highvoltage :p [10:00] hey y'all [10:00] hi ogra [10:01] highvoltage, thanks for the agenda update i didnt save fast enough ;) [10:01] np :) [10:01] so, lets get started [10:02] ogra ... you drive ? i'll do next wek when you are sprinting ? [10:02] i have to admit i was slacking a bit wrt CD images and edubuntu-meta, so i cant say much about the iso image status today, but i'll make sure they are usable on the weekend [10:03] we know you've been busy ogra [10:03] on the other hand, do we have local devices nearly done ... thanks a lot to sbalneav who did the moreimportant stuff like writing a suid wrapper to make pitti happy :) [10:03] :) [10:03] \o/ [10:03] that's a big one [10:03] and i must say its the coolest localdev implementation this world has wever seen [10:03] *ever [10:03] its really really sexy :) [10:03] :D:D [10:04] nice [10:04] wow. does that work like local devs on ltsp.org, or the fancy stuff that integrates with gnome an? === cbx33 hugs ogra and sbalneav [10:04] (i guess you get how thrilled i am ;) ) [10:04] do you have a timeframe for integrating it into our package? [10:04] just sent you off a gnuified tarball ready for packaging. As long as pittis happy with it, it's zehr gut. [10:04] you guys rock [10:04] t operates on the lowest possible level, so its for example totally desktop independent === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:04] wow [10:04] Should work with either kde or gnome. === highvoltage will rsync friday [10:05] indeed [10:05] e.g. you can use it similary on XFCE, KDE and GNOME [10:05] *grin* [10:05] the respective device handling app of the desktop can pick it up [10:06] ther is nothing to rsync yet, i'm waiting for pitti to approve the main inclusion of ltspfs/ltspfsd [10:06] then i'll add the stuff to the packages [10:06] and add it to the ltsp dependencys, so it gets installed by default [10:06] should happen during next week [10:07] really good! [10:07] ogra, sbalneav: congratulations :) [10:07] definitely [10:07] cbx33 did some work on scp i havent looked at deeply yet ... [10:07] but what he old me sounded very very promising ;) [10:07] Just doin' my job, ma'am [10:07] so scp is going forward as well [10:07] ok [10:08] ogra, need to have a chat to you about that at your easliest possible convenience [10:08] mdz asked for a list of every dev for specs that might get dropped ... [10:08] I have time tomorrow morning on train [10:08] ogra: like specs that aren't going to make it? [10:09] and wrt to the schedule i think its realistic to say i wont be able to implement them all [10:09] yep [10:09] LaserJock, yes. we need to make a decision next week, on which specs are going to be completed for edgy [10:09] he wants a realistic overview [10:09] and which ones are going to be defered for edgy+1 [10:09] right [10:09] right [10:09] ogra, with a little help scp will be done [10:10] scp is easy (at least for me, but apparently also for you ;) ) [10:10] I don't have specs anymore (they're with ogra now), but expect to have some news during (or after) next week [10:10] well, I thought if I did all I could it would free your time up for important things [10:10] rodarvus, is this the big secret you couldn't tell us about two meetings ago? [10:11] I'm not telling anything you about, yet :D [10:11] but yes, this is it. [10:11] what worries me is the swap server, we urgently need that [10:11] so i'll prioritize that one for the sprint [10:11] as well as ldm login and session handling [10:11] heheh [10:11] ogra, is ther eanything I can do to help out there? [10:11] the reason i bring it up in the meeting is that i want to hear from you guys if there is a spec you would consider urgent from a community POV [10:11] https://launchpad.net/people/ogra/+specs [10:12] hmm, is it me, or is LP slow [10:12] yeh a little [10:12] geez, those two specs you just mentioned were two of my most important ones since the first edubuntu release [10:12] seems ok to me [10:13] yeh [10:13] ogra: do you think you will try to fix sabayon? [10:13] the ltsp manager would be great too [10:13] ogra, do you want me to resume the swap server spec? [10:13] LaserJock, is this for you to do your spec [10:13] I had started working on it already [10:13] shouldn't take long for me to complete this one [10:13] and you could focus on the others [10:13] since we will start with autoconfigured dhcp this release (i.e. the user doesnt need to configure anything) what do you all think about shipping a predefined lts.conf ? === MagicFab [n=magicfab@modemcable113.78-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] [10:14] ogra, sounds like a plan [10:14] cbx33: sorta, I do'nt think we can use sabayon for my spec so if ogra is too busy maybe that would be something to drop for now [10:14] or maybe somebody else could fix sabayon [10:15] rodarvus, which one ? [10:15] so what i'd like to do for edubuntu is have a lts.conf that switches on the following as defaults: [10:15] LaserJock, I would if I could [10:15] ogra: i have always been a big proponent of including a default lts.conf, such as k12ltsp does [10:15] LaserJock, if I can help please let me know [10:15] * 16bit graphics (speeds up a lot and saves mem, while not breaking anything) [10:15] ogra: users are confused when you tell them 'change/edit this in lts.conf', and then the file isn't there [10:15] highvoltage, totally [10:15] even I got confused at that first hurdle [10:16] brb, workping [10:16] infact I remember we edited the install instructions on the wiki didn't we highvoltage ? [10:16] yep [10:16] to tell them to create it [10:16] ogra, this one -> https://blueprint.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/fully-automatic-swap-server [10:20] back [10:20] * local devices (might be problematic with very low specced clients) [10:20] * swap server ... (which indeed needs the server installed by default as well i.e. one addition to the server seed) [10:20] * sound ... (it will fail silently if no sound HW is avaliable) [10:20] thats it [10:20] rodarvus, ah, thanks :) [10:20] lets look over your stuff in wiesbaden, if you are busyi can surely pick up [10:20] (i'm lagging a lot here, my network is like a swamp) [10:20] ogra, yeh [10:20] seems very delayed === highvoltage too [10:20] ok, so we'll ship a preconfigured ltsp this time, great :) [10:21] ok, well I think we can ship a simple dynamic menu system with Edgy [10:21] ogra: Where's the swap server at? Can I give it any love? [10:21] from a technical pov, this release of edubuntu sounds like it will be superior in every way to the other edu distros [10:21] great work, ogra [10:21] sbalneav, rodarvus has some changes to nbd-server afaik ... [10:21] highvoltage, totally [10:21] I've got my edgy box up and going and will be working on making .menu files and perhaps get started on a simple GUI [10:22] rodarvus: anything I can help with, or have you got it in hand? [10:22] sbalneav, i was planning to jump on it during the sprint next week ... together with the ldm enhancements === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-70.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:22] sbalneav, its ok, thanks for the offer! [10:22] k [10:23] ogra, let me do this on the sprint, then [10:23] so thats all from tech side for this week ... a working iso should be there on the weekend as i said ... [10:23] (complete it, I mean) [10:23] oh, and please everyone twst willow/willowng [10:23] *test [10:24] (i'll mail edubuntu-devel with a cal for testers tomorrow) [10:24] that thing needs a lot testing [10:24] and we want to ship it as default :) [10:25] i wonder how many users out there run edubuntu edgy ... :) === LaserJock raises his hand as of today [10:25] ok, lets move on [10:25] i don't think much yet :/ [10:25] documentation : [10:25] anyone ? === ogra wonders what happened to HedgeMage [10:26] she wasnt around much recently [10:26] she's not freenode staff anymore is she? [10:26] I wonder if the Army got her? [10:26] or something [10:26] or so I heard [10:26] orga, i put edubuntu edgy on a desktop i had lying around [10:26] she dropped that months ago [10:26] I'd be happy to help document some of the localdevs stuff, and go over the ltsp documenation on the wiki [10:26] PWill, nice ! [10:27] and seeing as scp is going ahead, we'll need some scp docs, both in the Handbook and ingeneral? [10:27] ogra: not strictly documentation, but can i jump in with webste stuff here too? [10:27] Are we going to have a preinstalled manual for Edubuntu? [10:27] highvoltage, i thought you wanted to give that up :P [10:27] highvoltage, indeed :) [10:27] ogra: yes, that's what i want to discuss [10:28] i didn't initially want to give it up, but after elmo's mail i realised it's kind of inevitable [10:28] cbx33, scp-> yep ... as well as willowng (even though there is not much to document) [10:28] highvoltage, what's the problem? [10:28] ogra, yeh [10:28] it's not something i ever really had the time to maintain, just something i really wanted to [10:28] yep [10:28] ah I know the feeling [10:28] and i'd like to shift to more 'fun' stuff anyway [10:28] but for that we have a very good website ;) [10:29] yes [10:29] you did very well :) [10:29] so we needsome volunteers who wouls assist with maintenance and expantion of the site [10:29] fantastic work highvoltage [10:29] thanks:) [10:29] I'd like to say I'll jump in seeing as I know drupal really really well now [10:29] highvoltage, what kind of maintenance and expansion? [10:29] highvoltage: i do web design, i can help [10:30] highvoltage, RichEd is advertising i the K12LTSP community ;) [10:30] we can have another website meeting, where we can discuss what needs to be done on the site, and flesh out tasks and responsibilities [10:30] but I'm trying to get more into dev stuff [10:30] ogra: heh [10:30] it think most of it will be content management rather than webdesign [10:30] highvoltage, on the wiki? [10:30] ogra, yeh just drupal usage [10:30] maintenance is basically upgrading drupal now and again, and keeping the new section updated [10:30] i think the above is the main reason elmo freaked out === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:31] upgrading drupal can be scary :p [10:31] i'll give you guys more on web site & community later in my news [10:31] highvoltage, i thought thats donr by matthew ? [10:31] *done [10:31] cbx33: i was actually more referring to the news :) [10:31] oh :p [10:31] ogra: he can do that,yes [10:32] for the content we'd have to rely on our community mostly, as far as i understand [10:32] yep, that was the initial plan [10:32] but the community needs to grow ;) [10:32] we need a way to submit requests [10:32] ^^ as per my comment above we (Canonical) have a new dedicated community manager from Sept 4 [10:32] i want to get the wheel rolling on this, so is there any suggestions on a meeting time to discuss this? [10:33] RichEd, and he will deal with teachers ? [10:33] we would need about an hour or so [10:33] Jono Bacon .. well respected, good ideas. [10:33] yeh Jono is cool [10:33] He will work with me to build a Edubuntu community model within the greater Ubntu community [10:33] but i suspect his focus will lie more in the ubuntu community [10:33] ah, thats a nice plan :) [10:33] ogra: we are already chatting ... he is keen to work together [10:34] yup ... === highvoltage will post about the website stuff to the list with a request for meeting dates, and suggest one if no one else does [10:34] he has an "education bent" .... i.e. a passion and his own theories [10:34] RichEd, good good [10:34] ok, lets keep that for the commuity topic later ;) [10:34] any other doc stuff ? [10:35] doesnt seem like [10:35] ogra, do meeting minutes [10:35] fall under documentation [10:35] ;) [10:35] in a certain aount, yes :) [10:35] *amount [10:35] I wanted to ask if anyone actually uses the minutes I produce [10:35] yip [10:35] cbx33, yip [10:36] keeps me from asking inane redundant questions [10:36] ok, question answered [10:36] cbx33, your meeting minutes are always important :) [10:36] willvdl: really!? :p [10:36] its easier to look through them than to search the raw logs :) [10:36] the EdubuntuMeetingNotesNew page ? [10:36] ok, [10:36] cbx33, but dont feel forced :) [10:36] highvoltage: I'm on medication [10:36] no no it's fine [10:37] they take a while to produce [10:37] hence why I fall behind === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:37] once again sorry for that, just wanted to make sure my time was being well spent [10:37] according to the reactions it is ;) [10:38] ok, moving on ... [10:38] artwork: [10:38] any news from your two girl artwork team ? [10:38] oooh artwork [10:38] yes [10:38] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuArtwork/Palette [10:38] someone posted https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuSounds to edubuntu-users last week [10:38] we'll get to that [10:39] heh [10:39] lisa has been working hard [10:39] thats you in the first splash, right ? [10:39] on creating some initial ideas for a palette [10:39] nope [10:39] ogra, you don;t even know how handsome I am :p [10:39] cbx33, nice stuff [10:39] that's my brother in law [10:39] ah [10:39] yeah, very nice ! [10:39] jane is rather busy these days, her mother went under surgery last week [10:39] we liked the idea of a young person "working" [10:39] and "learning" [10:40] rodarvus, send her my regards [10:40] note that ldm wont be able to show such nice fullscreen pics [10:40] (we go to hospital every night to see her) [10:40] I'll keep them in my thoughts [10:40] cbx33, will do [10:40] ogra, sure [10:40] we can simplify === LaserJock tries to get his eyes to work again [10:40] yep [10:40] LaserJock, dont like the colors ? [10:41] just bright [10:41] yeh [10:41] maybe I've stared down too many lasers or something :-) [10:41] orange/yellow are colours of intelligence right? [10:41] as I said, this is a palette [10:41] orange/yellow are great [10:41] I like them, just a bit bright for me at the moment [10:41] LaserJock, turn down the contrast [10:41] (says the man who pinted his office orange last week) [10:41] *painted) [10:42] yikes [10:42] really?! [10:42] did it work? [10:42] yep :) [10:42] sweet [10:42] it does, yes [10:42] its a brownish orange [10:42] like working in a flowerpot ;) [10:42] oh, well that's a bit better [10:42] hehe [10:42] i made the room match my edubuntu desktop ;) [10:43] ogra, thats wonderful news for the artwork, ad i find it really slick ... :) [10:43] lisa has asked for a quick poll on everyones fav [10:43] 1,2,3 or 4 [10:43] splash 1 [10:43] gdm 4 [10:44] err [10:44] splash 3 [10:44] sorry [10:44] cbx33, is that you on the picture? :) [10:44] heh [10:44] i say splash 4 [10:44] rodarvus, no, my brother in law [10:44] i asked the same :) [10:44] splash 4 gmd 4 [10:44] willcdl knows what's up [10:45] splash and gdm one are really nice (but not sure if they could be used as default) [10:45] but very likely as alternative gdm theme [10:45] agree [10:45] why not as default ? [10:45] ah heck, I love them all :/ [10:46] rodarvus, willvdl ? [10:46] I like the inquisative, students in action kinda thing === RichEd has been chasing a mosquito around his office [10:46] hmm, yeah, I changed my mind [10:46] I think it could be the default one, indeed [10:47] :) [10:47] heh [10:47] lisa just made a big sigh of relief [10:47] LaserJock, i agree. we need more like that [10:47] I vote 3 ... looks like the desktop is on fire :) [10:47] ogra, the photographer isn't that relevant to me [10:47] willvdl, well, in th econtext LaserJock just gave i think he is ... [10:47] cbx33, you (lisa, or whoever took the picture) would need to formally agree on letting this picture be used, you know [10:48] lisa took it [10:48] he's documenting/learning whatever ... its a educational gesture (in a very rough view) [10:48] and my brother in law has just been informed and said...COOL [10:48] haha [10:48] ogra, true [10:48] someone needs to get a picture of a playground with kids on it [10:48] without getting arrested [10:48] willvdl, i agree that it porbably should be more intuitive :) [10:49] not to throw a spanner in, but from what janeW told me about previous decisions, when you use a singular person of a certain ethnicity, then there are sometimes "what about us" concerns [10:49] PWill: might be tough :-) [10:49] well, my mother is a teacher, maybe she could get her students to sign releases or something [10:49] RichEd: agree there too [10:49] RichEd, right, this is important [10:49] and lisa's brother seems to be blonde [10:49] or even from the politically correct side of the fence: what about them ? [10:49] RichEd, it's a little ambigous on a race/ethnicity issue [10:49] RichEd, well, we survived that once, we'll do it again ;) [10:49] RichEd: could we just vary it? or do we have to have "all in one" [10:49] but possibly not sex [10:49] (blondes are really rare here, for example) [10:50] rodarvus, photoshop is a wonderful tool :p [10:50] fair & equal representation [10:50] lol [10:50] heh [10:50] rodarvus, and anywhere north of the limpopo river [10:50] i.e one pic with all peoples ... [10:50] or one pic per peoples [10:50] RichEd, i have gotten mails where they called me racist back then because of it ... after the first shock you get used to just delete them ;) [10:50] Well, gotta go pick up the kiddies [10:50] or remove the human element entirely? [10:50] see you all later [10:50] sbalneav, thanks for attending ! [10:50] gah ! [10:51] willvdl: but that's pretty bad too [10:51] yeh [10:51] willvdl, thats a bad idea [10:51] the human element works [10:51] right back.. [10:51] really well [10:51] we hava situation in Brazil that a blong kid is always considered rich, so, not really ideal for the official image [10:51] if we take a decision we just have ot stad to it [10:51] *have [10:51] *stand [10:51] well the other alternative is to just have ambigouously coloured hands working on something [10:51] s/blong/blonde/ [10:51] body parts are fine as well [10:52]