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lfittlphanatic: launchpad product is bzr-wmt (https://launchpad.net/products/bzr-wmt)12:26
phanaticlfittl: subscribed ;)12:27
lfittl:)12:29
phanaticoh, ubuntu bug day again... i'm away again...12:29
lfittland I have to work :/12:30
lfittlwhy aren't there bug days on the weekend, that would be nicer..12:31
lfittlshould go to bed, gn8 everybody12:32
phanaticlfittl: me too, good night :)12:32
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bddebianHeya gang01:40
imbrandonheya bddebian01:40
bddebianHi imbrandon01:40
LaserJockhi bddebian and imbrandon01:57
bddebianHeya LaserJock01:58
imbrandonheya LaserJock01:59
imbrandoncontent lacking atm ( havent re-imported all my old stuff from my old blog yet ) can i get some opinions on my {gimp,photoshop} and layout work on the new wordpessized http://www.imbrandon.com02:00
imbrandonLaserJock , bddebian ^^ ( and anyone else that cares to waste 5 minutes )02:00
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crimsunwordpressed, you mean?02:00
imbrandonheh yea02:01
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crimsunheh, I was wondering what "wordpessized" entail02:01
crimsun+ed02:01
bddebianNice :-)02:01
bddebiancrimsun: I remember what I was going to ask you.  What issues should I look for in mythtv from Marillat?02:01
imbrandonheh well it was ahome grown php solution before , i decided i was spending more time coding the blog then bloging so i installed wordpress and am converting my old db posts ;)02:02
tryggHeh, why cant i apt-get mplayer? I only find kmplayer.02:02
imbrandontrygg: you need universe and multiverse enabled02:02
imbrandon!repos02:02
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource02:02
tryggimbrandon: i have them enabled!02:02
tryggThats the wierd thing.02:02
LaserJockmake sure you have updated02:02
LaserJockbecause it's in there02:03
imbrandonbrandon@voyager:~$ apt-cache madison mplayer02:03
imbrandon   mplayer | 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu4 | http://192.168.1.5 edgy/multiverse Packages02:03
imbrandon   mplayer | 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu4 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages02:03
crimsunbddebian: "everything".02:03
tryggmadison mplayer?02:03
LaserJockmadison gives you information about a package02:04
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tryggEven if i update it wont find it, it says it has no installation candidate02:05
bddebiancrimsun: Well it looks pretty clean afaict02:05
imbrandontrygg: pastebin your sources.list and lets take this to #{k}ubuntu02:06
crimsunlin{tian,da}-clean?02:06
bddebiancrimsun: Me?  I haven't checked that yet.  I'm test-building it now02:07
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tryggimbrandon: they said i should go here. :p02:07
imbrandontrygg: well this isnt a support channel but i'll be more than happy to help you in #kubuntu if you pastbein your sources.list and give me the url in there so we do not clutter up this channell any further02:08
tryggGotcha.02:11
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imbrandoni think that was the shortest TB meeting ever02:27
imbrandonheh02:27
crimsundid any candidates even bother to show?02:27
TheMusoWere there any?02:28
imbrandonno it was a whole 8 minutes .... hold on02:28
crimsunTheMuso: a couple iirc, but I didn't recognise them02:28
imbrandonhttp://pastebin.ca/13361402:28
imbrandonone whole screen , not even that02:29
imbrandonheh02:29
TheMusoheh02:29
crimsunlovely. :D02:29
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jsgotangcolol02:31
TheMusoHahahahaha!02:31
bddebianWhen was the meeting?  I tried to join.02:32
jsgotangcothat was tight and intense02:32
LaserJockhehe02:32
LaserJockbddebian: you came in after I did I think02:32
bddebianHmm02:32
TheMusoYow! The latest alternate i386 image is big.02:33
herasHi everyone, I've got a question about MOTU-School so I thought I'd ask here. Afew days ago I joined a session on packaging, hosted by Laserjock.02:36
bddebianHi heras02:37
bddebianShoot02:37
imbrandonok heras ask away02:37
herasNow I want more. Is there an announce list of what, where and when on MOTU-School? Couldn't find it on the wiki page ...02:37
imbrandonbddebian: it was about 4 hours ago from ym logs02:38
LaserJockheras: it will be on the MOTU School wiki page02:38
imbrandonheras: they are announced on the Fridge and on the Fridge Calendar and also ..... /me looks for the mailing list02:38
LaserJockwe just need teachers to sign up02:39
LaserJockit's a lot of work02:39
LaserJockwiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/Requests is the list of requested topics02:39
herasYes, and it's very much appreciated :)02:39
imbrandonheras: seems they are sent to ubuntu-motu, ubuntu-devel, kubuntu-devel02:40
imbrandonMailing list also02:40
heraswiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/Requests: excellent!02:40
LaserJockI just need to poke somebody to sign up for next week02:40
LaserJock*cough*bddebian*cough*02:40
imbrandon;P02:41
herasI may end up contributing a package yet :D02:41
LaserJockgood02:41
LaserJockwe are also getting a sticky on the ubuntu forums02:41
imbrandonyou can help with existing packages , merges, and syncs too ;)02:41
herasMAybe Ubuntu_demon can make a subforum for it. I'll ask him.02:42
LaserJockI don't know that we need a subforum02:42
LaserJockmost of the actual material should stay on the wiki02:42
LaserJockbut a sticky for announcements is good02:42
imbrandonyea02:43
herasWell, The fridge posted your session after it was done (the fisrt session)...02:43
LaserJockwell, we just need to get better about annoucements02:43
LaserJockand plan before hand02:44
LaserJockbut this is a significant time drain so it's not always easy to do02:44
herasAnyway, I think MOTU-School is really cool, I'll be joining as often as I can. Thank you for your effort and time!02:45
LaserJockthanks for joining in02:45
LaserJockwe're glad that people appreciate it02:45
herasOk :) thanks again and good night. Bed time for me.02:46
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ajmitchhi02:47
imbrandonheya ajmitch02:47
bddebianHeya ajmitch02:51
gnomefreakhey does anyone feel like merging gnomebaker? im heading out of town in like 8 hours (my night time here) and i wont be back for a week or so? oh and it cant be synced its a manual merge(if that makes sense)02:52
gnomefreakafter about an hour fighting with merge-buildpackage i threw up hands for now. so if someone wants it take it02:53
bddebianI don't do gnome packages anymore since I get in trouble :-)02:53
crimsunI'll look at it, assign it to me please.02:53
gnomefreakwtf just happened02:53
crimsun(I already got the rejected sync request)02:53
gnomefreakcrimsun: i dont know how to assgin it siretart let me have it to learn on02:54
crimsunwhich bug?02:55
crimsun(no access to my e-mail atm)02:55
gnomefreakk hold on02:55
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gnomefreakcrimsun: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnomebaker/+bug/5600102:56
UbugtuMalone bug 56001 in gnomebaker "[Edgy MoM]  Please sync gnomebaker" [Untriaged,Rejected] 02:56
imbrandonanyone know what would cause this on an apt-get upgrade ? http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=8143  <-- a friend at my lug is getting it02:56
gnomefreakwth is happening here :(02:57
crimsungnomefreak: click the name of the source package under Affects, then change Assigned to02:57
gnomefreakk02:57
ajmitchimbrandon: yes02:57
tsengbddebian: < sigh02:57
imbrandonajmitch: and that is ?02:57
tsengbddebian: please hurt him02:57
ajmitchimbrandon: your friend has source that's most likely python 2.4-specific02:57
ajmitchFive is a zope product meant to provide zope 3 stuff on zope 2.x02:58
imbrandonin his sources.list ?02:58
bddebiantseng: :-)  Well I am curious what to do with snort02:58
ajmitchimbrandon: I've seen this error before :)02:58
ajmitchimbrandon: no, I mean the python source02:58
gnomefreakk its yours crimsun02:59
imbrandonmind if i ask him to pop in here or do you mind joining #kclug to help us get this fixed up ?02:59
crimsungnomefreak: k.02:59
imbrandonajmitch: ^^02:59
ajmitchimbrandon: is he trying to upgrade to dapper?02:59
gnomefreakok i just had my backgrounds die on me brb02:59
bddebiancrimsun: Well mythtv seems pretty linda/lintian clean03:01
crimsunok, have you checked with funnyhat/whomever and the rest of the motumedia team for mythtv 0.19x plans?03:02
crimsun(frankly I don't know of any plans, so afaic, go nuts and upload it)03:03
imbrandonajmitch: thanks for heling him ( or trying to ) , bbiab03:06
imbrandons/heling/helping03:06
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welshbytere: https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/236934 when do these builds happen then? does it need someone to tweak the package first?03:19
ajmitchthey happen automatically03:20
ajmitchthere's a queue of packages that need built03:20
welshbyteah ok03:20
ajmitchof course, you can usually view some of these queues when launchpad isn't breaking & complaining03:21
welshbytei guess i'm still not sure of how the initial packaging --> binary package propagating to repositories flow works... is there a wiki page?03:22
bddebiancrimsun: FunnyLookinHat was looking at it but didn't have time I guess03:22
ajmitchwelshbyte: we upload source packages, they go into a queue for building if there are no new source/binary packages03:23
ajmitchit can take a little while03:23
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Hobbseeajmitch: you mean there are times when it isnt broken?  :P03:23
ajmitchhttps://launchpad.net/+builds <- we can see that the buildds are busy doing stuff03:24
ajmitchHobbsee: so they claim03:24
Hobbseehah03:24
welshbyteheh another nook of launchpad i've never seen before.. that thing needs a sitemap03:24
ajmitchit's a house that keeps getting rooms tacked on03:25
zulor when people ask to sync cdbs03:25
ajmitchyou should be able to look at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+builds03:25
ajmitchexcept that it probably gives a timeout03:25
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zulheh03:26
Hobbseeyay for gnomebaker.  manual merge03:26
bddebianAnyone have any thoughts/cares about snort?03:27
welshbytei try to stay off the coke, myself :)03:27
TheMusolol03:27
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Hobbseehehe03:27
ajmitchbddebian: go ahead & do it, noone's stopping you03:28
bddebianajmitch: That isn't the point03:28
TheMusoAnybody know how such a problem like what is shown in this build log: http://librarian.launchpad.net/3916301/buildlog_ubuntu-edgy-powerpc.xawtv_3.94-1.2ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz can be solved?03:28
TheMusoPackage built ok on amd64, i386, and sparc. Needs building on ia64, but when the first attemt was made, the same error occurred.03:29
TheMusoI am trying it in a powerpc pbuilder again to see what happens here.03:29
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HobbseeTheMuso: console/fbtools.c:427: error: 'PAGE_MASK' undeclared (first use in this function)03:35
Hobbseecorrect header file not included, or something?03:35
TheMusoHobbsee: I don''t know. I am waiting for my powerpc pbuilder to finish to see what happens.03:36
TheMusoIt is still working out deps. :)03:36
Hobbseehah03:36
Hobbseeyeah03:36
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TheMusoIt is only a powermac G3 300 after all.03:36
DarkMageZcould someone have alook @ this .diff, patch is crying about line 286 and i just have no idea why http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2072403:36
ajmitchDarkMageZ: explain what patch is doing - is it rejecting that patch hunk?03:37
DarkMageZ" **** malformed patch at line 286: --- rhythmbox-0.9.5.orig/debian/rules03:37
DarkMageZ"03:37
ajmitchfun03:38
ajmitchhow are you trying to apply this?03:38
bddebianHeya DarkMageZ03:38
bddebianDamn I hate outdated packages :-(03:38
DarkMageZpatch -p1 -i ../*patchname*03:38
welshbyteis it line 286 of the patch or the rules file?03:39
ajmitchagainst a clean upstream tarball?03:39
ajmitchunpacked tarball, that is03:39
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DarkMageZi'm trying to apply it against cvs, it was working last night (but other things wern't working then) so i ditched all my work and started again03:40
bddebianIf we jump Debian from Upstream, do we automatically become the "Ubuntu maintainer"?03:41
ajmitchgenerally not03:42
DarkMageZthe cvs version of that file i'm trying to change hasn't changed in 2 years. i'm guessing i've just made some stupid mistake in the patch... tho i was very very careful03:42
bddebianDamn I hate not knowing what the "right" thing to do is03:43
DarkMageZi've probably spent about 6 hours trying to build this package in total... and the patch only changes things in the /debian/ directory which hasn't changed in 2 years03:46
LaserJockbddebian: the right thing to do is help me figure out what the heck happended to edgy to make it not boot for me :-)03:47
bddebianLaserJock: What's happening?03:50
LaserJockI get this weird thing were it can't find / when booting03:50
LaserJockapparently it's happend in dapper to a lot of people03:50
bddebianLVM?03:50
LaserJockon 1 yes, on the other no03:51
bddebianHmm03:51
LaserJockI've tried 2 today and got the same problem03:51
bddebianDoh03:51
LaserJockone I was able to edit grub to point to /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root03:51
LaserJockfor LVM and it seems ok03:51
LaserJockbut the other one I just have no idea03:51
LaserJockand I ended up having to reinstall dapper03:52
bddebianThe non-lvm one is the one that doesn't boot?03:52
LaserJockwell, I wiped the hard drive and installed dapper03:52
LaserJockbut I'd like to try edgy again03:52
ajmitchdid the initramfs have the appropriate drivers in it?03:52
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bddebianAye03:52
LaserJockI think so03:52
welshbytei've heard of people having trouble with the UUID's in the grub config but that was in the context of RAID arrays03:53
LaserJockit just hangs on "waiting for  root filesystem"03:53
LaserJockwelshbyte: yeah, something like that03:53
welshbytecould try replacing the UUID with /dev/hdX03:53
ajmitchLaserJock: quite usual if the drivers aren't there or LVM isn't initialised03:53
ajmitchalso quite annoying03:54
LaserJockwelshbyte: tried that03:54
ajmitchLaserJock: dapper or edgy?03:54
LaserJockedgy03:54
LaserJockdapper worked fine, on both machines03:54
LaserJockthe current problem one doesn't use LVM03:54
ajmitchtried with /dev/sdX then?03:54
LaserJockyes03:54
ajmitchgreat03:54
welshbytehmm03:55
ajmitchit woud have eventually dropped you to a shell03:55
LaserJocktried all combinations of /dev/sdX and /dev/hdX I could think of03:55
ajmitchwhere you could check what's there03:55
welshbyteno need to think, grub has tab complete ;)03:55
LaserJockit didn't work03:55
LaserJockit couldn't find anything03:55
ajmitchwelshbyte: tab completion is useless there03:55
welshbyteoh :/03:55
welshbyteoh yeah, only works with the (hdx,y) format doesn't it03:56
ajmitchLaserJock: are you currently using that machine, or do you have it with you?03:56
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LaserJockI'm not using it right now03:56
LaserJockit's about 4 ft from me ;-)03:56
ajmitchok03:57
ajmitchcan you start it & let it drop to busybox after the timeout?03:57
LaserJockwell, I'm dist-upgrading so it'll take a bit ;-)04:01
LaserJockI'll let you know when I'm ready04:01
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jsgotangcolol Redhat network is not available at the moment grrrr04:13
imbrandonheh04:15
imbrandonhrm i need to find a good regex primer /me google's04:16
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FunnyLookinHatbddebian, were you looking into the new marillat package for mythtv 0.19 or was that someone else?  I cannot recall04:34
FunnyLookinHatI'm about ready to get back into the swing of things this weekend after my move and wanted to catch up on the progress of that04:34
ausimageI was wondering what is the status of updating Deps on Pysol and Scribus to the current Edgy Python packages. It has been stalled for weeks.04:34
FunnyLookinHatausimage, is there a bug out for it?  there may be comments pending it's status04:35
ausimageI filed bug #56281 for pysol04:35
UbugtuMalone bug 56281 in pysol "Edgy Dependency Issue" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5628104:35
ausimagethough I forgot for scribus04:35
bddebianFunnyLookinHat: I filed a sync request for it :-)04:35
FunnyLookinHatbddebian, oh awesome, sweet.  Now I don't have to make my first package submission that horrible project  ; )04:36
ausimagebddebian both Pysol and Scribus?04:36
FunnyLookinHatausimage, he was referring to mythtv I believe04:36
ausimageoh04:36
FunnyLookinHatausimage, that bug hasn't yet been confirmed nor triaged...  hopefully the team will get to it in the next day or so, they are about to begin a huge bug sorting event tomorow04:37
bddebianausimage: Scribus is in main04:37
ausimageK... then I will make it is noted then04:38
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ajmitchlooks like pysol needs remerged anyway04:41
bddebianAye but he left :-)04:42
=== ajmitch is surprised Hobbsee hasn't done it already
Hobbseewhy would i?04:42
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ajmitchbecause you're doing every other merge there?04:43
bddebianEvery other merge where?04:46
Hobbseeajmitch: far from it.04:49
ajmitchmmm04:49
ajmitch24" panel for $1300 NZD04:50
ajmitchif only I could..04:50
imbrandonheh04:50
imbrandonhrm am i doing this right ..... will " ^Subject. \[Bug.+\]  " match something like "Subject: [Bug #3534532]  dfgdftw sdfs sdf"04:52
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imbrandonfskin mail filters gonna kill me sooner or later04:53
imbrandon^Subject. \[Bug.+?\]  .... hrm i need a way to check these against strings before i put them in .procmailrc04:54
ajmitchgrep04:55
ajmitchor egrep, as the case may be04:55
imbrandonegrep?04:55
imbrandonhrem grep dosent like ^ or $04:58
=== TheMuso notices an update for xawtv, and goes to merge.
TheMusoWhich will hopefully fix the ia64/powerpc problems.05:09
HobbseeTheMuso: it ftbfs or is complicated.  either one.05:10
TheMusoHobbsee: ?05:10
TheMusoYou mean the build log I pasted earlier?05:10
TheMusoWell it matters not now.05:10
HobbseeTheMuso: xawtv - i actually meant the merge of it05:11
TheMusoTis actually not very complicated at all, but a lot has changed in the debian version.05:11
Hobbseeah05:11
Hobbseeright05:11
Hobbseethat was probably it, whihc is why i didnt merge it myself05:12
=== TheMuso executes a pbuilder session for xawtv on two machines simultaneously, i386, and powerpc.
Laser_awayajmitch: hmm, it didn't happen the second time05:17
Laser_awaybut I gotta get going, so I'll have to fight with nvidia tomorrow, at least I can boot now05:17
ajmitchhave fun05:18
jsgotangcofight nvidia?05:26
jsgotangcogood luck!05:26
TheMusophew. Merged version of xawtv builds fine on i386.05:45
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TheMusoDamn! Same error on powerpc as previous version.05:47
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bddebianGnight folks06:29
=== hub found some new food to package
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Sp4rKyhey06:43
LaserJockwow, it's a party place in here tonight :-)06:57
Hobbseehi Sp4rKy06:58
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Sp4rKy:)06:58
=== Sp4rKy working on audacious packaging ...
=== LaserJock launches a bottle rocket in Hobbsee's direction
Hobbseeyay :)06:59
LaserJockbut it fails miserably and lands in the Pacific ;-)06:59
=== Hobbsee diverts it so that it attacks ajmitch
Hobbseehaha06:59
=== Fujitsu saves ajmitch.
LaserJocktaken one for the team07:00
Sp4rKyif i change OBJECTIVE_SONAME_SUFFIX in Makefile.in , that will change the real name of the library or only is soname07:00
LaserJocktaking07:00
LaserJockI meant07:00
Sp4rKy??07:04
LaserJocktaking one for the team, regarding Fujitsu's attempt to save ajmitch07:04
FujitsuYep, there are few enough of us....07:05
Sp4rKyand nobody could take a few second to help a desperate packager ?07:08
HobbseeSp4rKy: probably just that we dont know, or something07:08
Toadstool'morning everybody07:11
Sp4rKyheya Toadstool :)07:11
Toadstoolhi Sp4rKy07:12
Sp4rKyHobbsee, rhoooo :(07:12
Sp4rKyToadstool, i'm (re)building audacious07:12
imbrandonwould i be out of line asking bluefoxy to tone down the language a bit, we all slip now and then but it seems almost more from him and almost intentional at time , just to see if he can push the limits of -devel07:20
imbrandonnvm07:20
Hobbseeimbrandon: no, i doubt it.  but you'd probably need to be prepared for any responses you get.07:21
LaserJockimbrandon: it would be nice at some point07:21
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TheMusohehe imbrandon that was very well worded. :)07:32
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imbrandonheh07:33
imbrandoncept for the normal typos from me ...07:33
imbrandonlol07:33
TheMusoDid he PM you?07:34
imbrandonno07:34
TheMusoMight have gone to bed.07:34
TheMusoI would be sure he would respond.07:34
imbrandondunno heh07:34
TheMusoI thought he would anyway07:34
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Hobbseemore likely to respond via a blog post,i expect07:35
TheMusoheh true tha.07:35
TheMusothat07:35
imbrandonheh07:35
imbrandonanyhow, so whats new in the MOTU world ? anything ?07:36
Hobbseeimbrandon: you on the -motu mailing list?  there's some stuff there, i think07:42
imbrandonyea07:42
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imbrandonwoot , i just realized my nick was over a year old on freenode ;) Registered: 1 year 4 weeks 1 day (3h 3m 5s) ago07:49
imbrandonnot that that matters i guess heh ;)07:49
Amaranth3 years 18 weeks 1 day (6h 59m 39s) ago07:50
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imbrandonAmaranth: nice ;)07:50
imbrandonheh07:50
Amaranthi had another nick for about a year, can't remember what it was07:51
imbrandonyea i had another nick on here  a long while back but i forgot it also07:51
imbrandonnever used it much07:51
imbrandonon this netwrk that is07:52
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imbrandonhehe07:52
imbrandonbeat ya by ~7 weeks lol07:53
Hobbseetrue07:53
imbrandonjust barely hehe07:53
Hobbseeactually, the scary thing is that means i've only been using linux a bit longer than that.07:53
imbrandonheh07:53
Hobbseeand am already a dev07:54
imbrandon;)07:54
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imbrandonheh i think ajmitch has most of us beat with almost 6 years ;)07:57
TheMusoHobbsee: But you're one of those people who just picks things up quickly.07:59
HobbseeTheMuso: that is true.07:59
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LaserJockimbrandon: how do you figure that out?08:02
imbrandon /msg nickserv info LaserJock08:02
imbrandon;)08:02
imbrandonlooks like you and Hobbsee are almost dead even ;)08:03
ajmitchimbrandon: so I'm a slow learner..08:03
imbrandonhehehe08:03
LaserJockHobbsee: mwuahahaha08:03
LaserJockbeat hear by 2 days08:03
LaserJockher08:03
Hobbseeajmitch: sorry mate.08:04
HobbseeLaserJock: hehe08:04
TheMusoRegistered: 1 year 43 weeks 1 day (20h 49m 45s) ago08:04
LaserJockbut I've been using Linux for longer so I guess it evens out08:04
imbrandonyea i started my linux trek sometime in 95 and started actualy USING it pretty much full time at work 97ish and on the desktop in 2001ish08:05
ajmitchoh joy, Hobbsee is going nuts again in other channels08:05
imbrandonlol08:05
LaserJocksabdfl's got 2 years08:05
imbrandonajmitch: u-o ?08:05
ajmitchimbrandon: of course08:06
imbrandonheh08:06
ajmitchI got booted from there with no reason08:06
imbrandoni took that off my autojoin last week , too many tabs08:06
imbrandonif i could just get used to irssi hehe08:06
ajmitchno point me rejoining, I'll just get booted08:06
imbrandonlol08:06
Amaranthajmitch: Bad aim. :)08:06
Hobbseeajmitch: sorry about that mate - bad nick completion.08:06
ajmitchHobbsee: excuses08:06
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ajmitchimbrandon: I'm not going to use that on her08:07
imbrandonheh08:07
TheMusohahahaha08:07
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ajmitchHobbsee: you know a general area08:08
crimsunwe've been through this before ;)08:08
imbrandonactualy i seen ubugtu clue-by-four someone the other day, i about fell out of my seat laughing litterly08:08
ajmitchcrimsun: only a few hours ago08:08
imbrandoni know the general areat too, its on the ubuntu-dev world map ;)08:09
imbrandonarea*08:09
imbrandonajmitch: is the only circle on the whole island ( leaste on that map )08:09
ajmitchhorrendously inaccurate thing08:09
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Laser_awaygood night guys, and Hobbsee08:09
ajmitchnight08:10
imbrandonnight08:10
Hobbseenight Laser_away08:10
ajmitchimbrandon: besides, I haven't had anyone come & visit me yet :)08:10
imbrandonhehe08:10
ajmitchapart from LCA at the start of the year, of course08:11
imbrandonlca ?08:11
ajmitchlinux.conf.au08:11
imbrandonahh cool08:11
imbrandonyea i wanna make it to one of those here in the US sometime, probably not this year though obviously08:11
imbrandonubucon would be cool too08:12
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Hobbseeajmitch: yes you will.08:13
ajmitchI will?08:13
ajmitchare you going to force-feed me or something?08:13
imbrandonwould be a good idea ( to bother with it )08:13
imbrandonheh08:13
ajmitchconsidering the fun of trying to get to dunedin, I think you won't08:13
Hobbseeajmitch: no...i dont think so...08:17
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Kaleohello11:43
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tsengimbrandon: sigh @ hackergotchi12:38
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englaI made an app that I want to be included in universe02:18
englaand an ubuntu package.. how do I know if the package is good enough?02:18
Gloubiboulgaengla, we use REVU to check new packages02:19
Gloubiboulga!revu02:19
ubotuREVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU02:19
imbrandontseng: heh you dont like it ? its just temp anyhow untill i photoshop a real mugshot02:20
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tsengimbrandon: ok02:20
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\shmoins02:30
zulhey sh02:31
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ajmitchhi \sh02:32
=== tseng hugs Hobbsee, wireshark
\shhow are the motus doing?02:32
Hobbseehi all!02:32
Hobbseewireshark?02:32
ajmitch\sh: good to see you still alive02:32
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=== Hobbsee is here to take over the world!
\shI'm fighting with a compaq smartarray p600 sas raid controller in a hp dl360g4p...and grub from ubuntu is not working, strange02:32
zul\sh: is it using a special device?02:35
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\shzul: /dev/cciss/c0d0 as BOOT_DEVICE, /dev/cciss/c0d0p3 as boot_partition02:37
\shzul: with SuSE Enterprise Linux Version 9 it works02:37
zuldapper or edgy?02:37
\shzul: dapper02:37
zulhmmm...lemme check something..02:37
\sherror message is : GRUB hard disk error...regarding the documentation of grub, it tells me: wrong disk geometry from the bios02:38
zulit might be a patch in grub that isnt working correctly have you tried edgy on it?02:39
\shzul: no...I can't use edgy02:40
zulergh..02:40
zuli dont have an dapper box to look at the source :(02:40
zulwait...never mind...gimme a sec02:41
zulgrub is looking for the /dev/cciss/c%dd%d where %d and %d is controller and drive02:42
zul\sh: can you extract the rpm source for suse and look for their raid_ccis patch?02:43
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\shzul: that's what I'm doing now :)02:44
zulah02:44
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\shzul: they don't have any patches for raid_cciss...but they have a force-lba=off patch, initaddr patch etc.02:49
zuli thought they did..02:50
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\shzul: their version is 0.94 ... Im looking into the source ;)02:51
\shwe have cciss patches to grub, and in grub-0.94 is nothing to find about cciss02:52
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LutinHi05:27
LutinI don't know why, but the flags given in DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS are not used when running pbuilder05:29
Lutinwould you know how to fix that ?05:30
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Lutinno ideas ?05:55
azeemso they are used when not running pbuilder?05:56
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bluefoxicyis there any chance of getting a new wine by edgy06:03
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bluefoxicy9.9 vs 9.19 you know, although I guess debian could be lagging *looks*06:04
bluefoxicy9.15 is in debian06:04
bluefoxicyhow do I request a merge from debian?06:04
azeemdid you do the merge already?06:05
bluefoxicyazeem:  no, I mean debian unstable has wine 0.9.15, Ubuntu has 0.9.9, and 0.9.19 is out.  How do I request the package from Debian Unstable be merged into Edgy universe, if possible?06:06
bluefoxicy(which seems to be what most of the changelogs for stuff I'm getting say-- "sync from debian unstable" or "merged from debian unstable" or whatnot)06:06
azeembluefoxicy: what do you mean, "request"?06:06
azeemthis is a developer channel, I assume you want to do the work yourself06:06
bluefoxicyazeem:  Well.. I'm not ubuntu's wine maintainer, and somebody's doing it, I figured somebody else was in charge of it o_o06:07
azeembluefoxicy: you should check what changes in the Ubuntu package are still needed and how to merge them06:07
bluefoxicyokay... is there a way to do that?06:07
azeemif somebody is already in charge, requesting it does not make sense06:07
bluefoxicywow, it looks like nobody is in charge of it :)06:08
bluefoxicyall the changelog entries are from different people06:08
azeemMOTU is in charge06:09
bluefoxicywell I'll have to look at it later06:11
bluefoxicyI have to get ready to go take the security+06:11
bluefoxicyso maybe when I get back.06:12
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bddebianHeya gang06:15
Lutinazeem: actually the flags are not used whether I use pbuilder or not06:16
azeemLutin: paste your debian/rules to a pastebin06:17
Lutinok06:17
lfittlhi bddebian06:18
bddebianHeya lfittl06:18
Lutinazeem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2077606:20
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azeemLutin: try putting that below the include directives06:22
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Lutinazeem; trying right now06:22
Lutinazeem, right, that works06:24
Lutinthanks alot06:24
azeemcheers06:25
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azeembddebian: you mean I'm late for the beer hall? *g*06:31
bddebianHeh06:32
LaserJockmorning guys06:34
bddebianHeya LaserJock06:34
bddebianazeem: I know someone in Debian is working on bkchem but do you have any interest in looking at what I put on REVU?06:34
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asimonWow, lintian not only detected that the FSF address in my copyright file was obsolete and gave me the new address, it even detected a spelling error in the description. Very cool. :-)06:35
bddebianheh06:35
LaserJockhmm, I can't figure out why X won't show up in edgy06:40
LaserJockanybody seen where X just doesn't show up?06:40
bddebianI have a box where it seems to have whacked the h and v refresh so I get a monitor error with no display :-)06:40
LaserJockthat's the thing06:41
LaserJockI haven't been able to find an error06:41
LaserJockit just drops me to a tty06:41
bddebianWell I was getting that for a while before the i810 driver got fixed06:41
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LaserJockwell, this is on an nvidia card06:44
azeembddebian: I'm off to the beer hall now :)06:54
azeemDebian birthday party06:54
bddebianazeem: Enjoy06:54
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bddebianThanks for the response on bkchem btw ;-P06:54
azeembddebian: well, Daniel packaged it06:55
azeembddebian: what was your motivation to package it?06:55
bddebianI didn't know someone had already done it and LaserJock mentioned he would like it06:55
azeemok06:56
LaserJockdoh, blame it on me06:57
LaserJockI said *I* was going to package it06:58
LaserJockthat's what you get for stealing other people's packages ;-)06:58
bddebianHeh06:58
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LaserJockyou still get like 10 times more MOTU work done than me so...06:59
azeemI'm off now for real, laters06:59
bddebianLater azeem07:00
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zulwhat are those icons in forums called again?09:15
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phanaticgood evening09:48
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chanakyaHi, I want to join MOTu/Games team , tell me how i can help10:02
crimsunwhat's your LP username?10:03
chanakyacrimsun, gauravtechie10:04
chanakyacrimsun, ???10:07
crimsunchanakya: have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/Games ?10:07
chanakyacrimsun, yep, Would like to help in packaging , But can`t have access to IRC at workplace10:09
chanakyacrimsun, would love if we have a mailing list , it`s easier to follow10:09
lfittlhey phanatic, found some time to look at bzr-wmt? :)10:09
chanakyacrimsun, top of all would like to know whom do i approach for help ?10:10
phanaticlfittl: not yet :( i was hunting laptops all day10:10
lfittlphanatic: k, just ping me when you found time, would be interested in your feedback ;)10:11
phanaticlfittl: sure :)10:11
crimsunchanakya: any of the MOTU listed at the top of that page10:13
chanakyacrimsun, thanks10:14
chanakyacrimsun, My request to Join Motu-games at Launchpad has not yet been answered10:16
crimsunchanakya: it will be when the admins have free time10:17
chanakyacrimsun, Lathiat is the Owner10:17
chanakyacrimsun, ok10:18
crimsunsince the vast majority of us are volunteers with real non-Canonical-paid jobs, it behooves us to be patient :)10:18
chanakyacrimsun, :)10:22
chanakyaCya all10:24
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ajmitchmorning11:53
bddebianHeya ajmitch11:53
lfittlmorning ajmitch11:53
zuleveninig11:53
LaserJockhi ajmitch et al.11:54
zulhey lj11:55
bddebianHeya LaserJock, lfittl, zul :-)11:55
LaserJockand that's what seperates the scientists from the the common folk ;-)11:56
LaserJockj/k11:56
ajmitchharsh11:57
zulthat scientists make smartass jokes ;)11:57
bddebianLater folks11:57
LaserJockpiled higher and deeper11:57
zulhehe11:57
LaserJockpin-headed dope11:58
LaserJockI've heard them all11:58
ajmitchI've heard the first one11:58
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