[12:26] phanatic: launchpad product is bzr-wmt (https://launchpad.net/products/bzr-wmt) [12:27] lfittl: subscribed ;) [12:29] :) [12:29] oh, ubuntu bug day again... i'm away again... [12:30] and I have to work :/ [12:31] why aren't there bug days on the weekend, that would be nicer.. [12:32] should go to bed, gn8 everybody [12:32] lfittl: me too, good night :) === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chiefofthejojos [n=bradpitc@86.59.25.121] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chiefofthejojos [n=bradpitc@86.59.25.121] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@rrcs-67-53-26-241.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@CPE-139-168-251-17.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Xnix [n=xnix@n157s046.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:40] Heya gang [01:40] heya bddebian [01:40] Hi imbrandon [01:57] hi bddebian and imbrandon [01:58] Heya LaserJock [01:59] heya LaserJock [02:00] content lacking atm ( havent re-imported all my old stuff from my old blog yet ) can i get some opinions on my {gimp,photoshop} and layout work on the new wordpessized http://www.imbrandon.com [02:00] LaserJock , bddebian ^^ ( and anyone else that cares to waste 5 minutes ) === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@CPE-139-168-251-17.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:00] wordpressed, you mean? [02:01] heh yea === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@ppp10-210.lns1.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:01] heh, I was wondering what "wordpessized" entail [02:01] +ed [02:01] Nice :-) [02:01] crimsun: I remember what I was going to ask you. What issues should I look for in mythtv from Marillat? [02:02] heh well it was ahome grown php solution before , i decided i was spending more time coding the blog then bloging so i installed wordpress and am converting my old db posts ;) [02:02] Heh, why cant i apt-get mplayer? I only find kmplayer. [02:02] trygg: you need universe and multiverse enabled [02:02] !repos [02:02] The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource [02:02] imbrandon: i have them enabled! [02:02] Thats the wierd thing. [02:02] make sure you have updated [02:03] because it's in there [02:03] brandon@voyager:~$ apt-cache madison mplayer [02:03] mplayer | 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu4 | http://192.168.1.5 edgy/multiverse Packages [02:03] mplayer | 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu4 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages [02:03] bddebian: "everything". [02:03] madison mplayer? [02:04] madison gives you information about a package === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === micahcowan [n=micahcow@69.36.252.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:05] Even if i update it wont find it, it says it has no installation candidate [02:05] crimsun: Well it looks pretty clean afaict [02:06] trygg: pastebin your sources.list and lets take this to #{k}ubuntu [02:06] lin{tian,da}-clean? [02:07] crimsun: Me? I haven't checked that yet. I'm test-building it now === welshbyte [n=welshbyt@cpc3-cwma2-0-0-cust276.swan.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:07] imbrandon: they said i should go here. :p [02:08] trygg: well this isnt a support channel but i'll be more than happy to help you in #kubuntu if you pastbein your sources.list and give me the url in there so we do not clutter up this channell any further [02:11] Gotcha. === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.160.148] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:27] i think that was the shortest TB meeting ever [02:27] heh [02:27] did any candidates even bother to show? [02:28] Were there any? [02:28] no it was a whole 8 minutes .... hold on [02:28] TheMuso: a couple iirc, but I didn't recognise them [02:28] http://pastebin.ca/133614 [02:29] one whole screen , not even that [02:29] heh [02:29] heh [02:29] lovely. :D === heras [n=heras@piranhaserver.student.utwente.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:31] lol [02:31] Hahahahaha! [02:32] When was the meeting? I tried to join. [02:32] that was tight and intense [02:32] hehe [02:32] bddebian: you came in after I did I think [02:32] Hmm [02:33] Yow! The latest alternate i386 image is big. [02:36] Hi everyone, I've got a question about MOTU-School so I thought I'd ask here. Afew days ago I joined a session on packaging, hosted by Laserjock. [02:37] Hi heras [02:37] Shoot [02:37] ok heras ask away [02:37] Now I want more. Is there an announce list of what, where and when on MOTU-School? Couldn't find it on the wiki page ... [02:38] bddebian: it was about 4 hours ago from ym logs [02:38] heras: it will be on the MOTU School wiki page [02:38] heras: they are announced on the Fridge and on the Fridge Calendar and also ..... /me looks for the mailing list [02:39] we just need teachers to sign up [02:39] it's a lot of work [02:39] wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/Requests is the list of requested topics [02:39] Yes, and it's very much appreciated :) [02:40] heras: seems they are sent to ubuntu-motu, ubuntu-devel, kubuntu-devel [02:40] Mailing list also [02:40] wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/Requests: excellent! [02:40] I just need to poke somebody to sign up for next week [02:40] *cough*bddebian*cough* [02:41] ;P [02:41] I may end up contributing a package yet :D [02:41] good [02:41] we are also getting a sticky on the ubuntu forums [02:41] you can help with existing packages , merges, and syncs too ;) [02:42] MAybe Ubuntu_demon can make a subforum for it. I'll ask him. [02:42] I don't know that we need a subforum [02:42] most of the actual material should stay on the wiki [02:42] but a sticky for announcements is good [02:43] yea [02:43] Well, The fridge posted your session after it was done (the fisrt session)... [02:43] well, we just need to get better about annoucements [02:44] and plan before hand [02:44] but this is a significant time drain so it's not always easy to do [02:45] Anyway, I think MOTU-School is really cool, I'll be joining as often as I can. Thank you for your effort and time! [02:45] thanks for joining in [02:45] we're glad that people appreciate it [02:46] Ok :) thanks again and good night. Bed time for me. === heras [n=heras@piranhaserver.student.utwente.nl] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] [02:47] hi [02:47] heya ajmitch [02:51] Heya ajmitch [02:52] hey does anyone feel like merging gnomebaker? im heading out of town in like 8 hours (my night time here) and i wont be back for a week or so? oh and it cant be synced its a manual merge(if that makes sense) [02:53] after about an hour fighting with merge-buildpackage i threw up hands for now. so if someone wants it take it [02:53] I don't do gnome packages anymore since I get in trouble :-) [02:53] I'll look at it, assign it to me please. [02:53] wtf just happened [02:53] (I already got the rejected sync request) [02:54] crimsun: i dont know how to assgin it siretart let me have it to learn on [02:55] which bug? [02:55] (no access to my e-mail atm) [02:55] k hold on === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:56] crimsun: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnomebaker/+bug/56001 [02:56] Malone bug 56001 in gnomebaker "[Edgy MoM] Please sync gnomebaker" [Untriaged,Rejected] [02:56] anyone know what would cause this on an apt-get upgrade ? http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=8143 <-- a friend at my lug is getting it [02:57] wth is happening here :( [02:57] gnomefreak: click the name of the source package under Affects, then change Assigned to [02:57] k [02:57] imbrandon: yes [02:57] bddebian: < sigh [02:57] ajmitch: and that is ? [02:57] bddebian: please hurt him [02:57] imbrandon: your friend has source that's most likely python 2.4-specific [02:58] Five is a zope product meant to provide zope 3 stuff on zope 2.x [02:58] in his sources.list ? [02:58] tseng: :-) Well I am curious what to do with snort [02:58] imbrandon: I've seen this error before :) [02:58] imbrandon: no, I mean the python source [02:59] k its yours crimsun [02:59] mind if i ask him to pop in here or do you mind joining #kclug to help us get this fixed up ? [02:59] gnomefreak: k. [02:59] ajmitch: ^^ [02:59] imbrandon: is he trying to upgrade to dapper? [02:59] ok i just had my backgrounds die on me brb [03:01] crimsun: Well mythtv seems pretty linda/lintian clean [03:02] ok, have you checked with funnyhat/whomever and the rest of the motumedia team for mythtv 0.19x plans? [03:03] (frankly I don't know of any plans, so afaic, go nuts and upload it) [03:06] ajmitch: thanks for heling him ( or trying to ) , bbiab [03:06] s/heling/helping === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@rrcs-67-53-26-241.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:19] re: https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/236934 when do these builds happen then? does it need someone to tweak the package first? [03:20] they happen automatically [03:20] there's a queue of packages that need built [03:20] ah ok [03:21] of course, you can usually view some of these queues when launchpad isn't breaking & complaining [03:22] i guess i'm still not sure of how the initial packaging --> binary package propagating to repositories flow works... is there a wiki page? [03:22] crimsun: FunnyLookinHat was looking at it but didn't have time I guess [03:23] welshbyte: we upload source packages, they go into a queue for building if there are no new source/binary packages [03:23] it can take a little while === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:23] ajmitch: you mean there are times when it isnt broken? :P [03:24] https://launchpad.net/+builds <- we can see that the buildds are busy doing stuff [03:24] Hobbsee: so they claim [03:24] hah [03:24] heh another nook of launchpad i've never seen before.. that thing needs a sitemap [03:25] it's a house that keeps getting rooms tacked on [03:25] or when people ask to sync cdbs [03:25] you should be able to look at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+builds [03:25] except that it probably gives a timeout === ajmitch ignores zul [03:26] heh [03:26] yay for gnomebaker. manual merge [03:27] Anyone have any thoughts/cares about snort? [03:27] i try to stay off the coke, myself :) [03:27] lol === welshbyte crawls into a hole [03:27] hehe [03:28] bddebian: go ahead & do it, noone's stopping you [03:28] ajmitch: That isn't the point [03:28] Anybody know how such a problem like what is shown in this build log: http://librarian.launchpad.net/3916301/buildlog_ubuntu-edgy-powerpc.xawtv_3.94-1.2ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz can be solved? [03:29] Package built ok on amd64, i386, and sparc. Needs building on ia64, but when the first attemt was made, the same error occurred. [03:29] I am trying it in a powerpc pbuilder again to see what happens here. === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@ppp10-210.lns1.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:35] TheMuso: console/fbtools.c:427: error: 'PAGE_MASK' undeclared (first use in this function) [03:35] correct header file not included, or something? [03:36] Hobbsee: I don''t know. I am waiting for my powerpc pbuilder to finish to see what happens. [03:36] It is still working out deps. :) [03:36] hah [03:36] yeah === neutrinomass [n=pandis@ppp26-100.adsl.forthnet.gr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:36] It is only a powermac G3 300 after all. [03:36] could someone have alook @ this .diff, patch is crying about line 286 and i just have no idea why http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20724 [03:37] DarkMageZ: explain what patch is doing - is it rejecting that patch hunk? [03:37] " **** malformed patch at line 286: --- rhythmbox-0.9.5.orig/debian/rules [03:37] " [03:38] fun [03:38] how are you trying to apply this? [03:38] Heya DarkMageZ [03:38] Damn I hate outdated packages :-( [03:38] patch -p1 -i ../*patchname* [03:39] is it line 286 of the patch or the rules file? [03:39] against a clean upstream tarball? [03:39] unpacked tarball, that is === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:40] i'm trying to apply it against cvs, it was working last night (but other things wern't working then) so i ditched all my work and started again [03:41] If we jump Debian from Upstream, do we automatically become the "Ubuntu maintainer"? [03:42] generally not [03:42] the cvs version of that file i'm trying to change hasn't changed in 2 years. i'm guessing i've just made some stupid mistake in the patch... tho i was very very careful [03:43] Damn I hate not knowing what the "right" thing to do is [03:46] i've probably spent about 6 hours trying to build this package in total... and the patch only changes things in the /debian/ directory which hasn't changed in 2 years [03:47] bddebian: the right thing to do is help me figure out what the heck happended to edgy to make it not boot for me :-) [03:50] LaserJock: What's happening? [03:50] I get this weird thing were it can't find / when booting [03:50] apparently it's happend in dapper to a lot of people [03:50] LVM? [03:51] on 1 yes, on the other no [03:51] Hmm [03:51] I've tried 2 today and got the same problem [03:51] Doh [03:51] one I was able to edit grub to point to /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root [03:51] for LVM and it seems ok [03:51] but the other one I just have no idea [03:52] and I ended up having to reinstall dapper [03:52] The non-lvm one is the one that doesn't boot? [03:52] well, I wiped the hard drive and installed dapper [03:52] but I'd like to try edgy again [03:52] did the initramfs have the appropriate drivers in it? === ajmitch has seen initramfs with no drivers occur on edgy [03:52] Aye [03:52] I think so [03:53] i've heard of people having trouble with the UUID's in the grub config but that was in the context of RAID arrays [03:53] it just hangs on "waiting for root filesystem" [03:53] welshbyte: yeah, something like that [03:53] could try replacing the UUID with /dev/hdX [03:53] LaserJock: quite usual if the drivers aren't there or LVM isn't initialised [03:54] also quite annoying [03:54] welshbyte: tried that [03:54] LaserJock: dapper or edgy? [03:54] edgy [03:54] dapper worked fine, on both machines [03:54] the current problem one doesn't use LVM [03:54] tried with /dev/sdX then? [03:54] yes [03:54] great [03:55] hmm [03:55] it woud have eventually dropped you to a shell [03:55] tried all combinations of /dev/sdX and /dev/hdX I could think of [03:55] where you could check what's there [03:55] no need to think, grub has tab complete ;) [03:55] it didn't work [03:55] it couldn't find anything [03:55] welshbyte: tab completion is useless there [03:55] oh :/ [03:56] oh yeah, only works with the (hdx,y) format doesn't it [03:56] LaserJock: are you currently using that machine, or do you have it with you? === rbelem [n=rodrigo@ubuntu/member/rbelem] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:56] I'm not using it right now [03:56] it's about 4 ft from me ;-) [03:57] ok [03:57] can you start it & let it drop to busybox after the timeout? [04:01] well, I'm dist-upgrading so it'll take a bit ;-) [04:01] I'll let you know when I'm ready === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@rrcs-67-53-26-241.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:13] lol Redhat network is not available at the moment grrrr [04:15] heh [04:16] hrm i need to find a good regex primer /me google's === welshbyte trundles off to get some sleep === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zen-afk [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ausimage [n=owner@pool-141-149-239-130.syr.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:34] bddebian, were you looking into the new marillat package for mythtv 0.19 or was that someone else? I cannot recall [04:34] I'm about ready to get back into the swing of things this weekend after my move and wanted to catch up on the progress of that [04:34] I was wondering what is the status of updating Deps on Pysol and Scribus to the current Edgy Python packages. It has been stalled for weeks. [04:35] ausimage, is there a bug out for it? there may be comments pending it's status [04:35] I filed bug #56281 for pysol [04:35] Malone bug 56281 in pysol "Edgy Dependency Issue" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56281 [04:35] though I forgot for scribus [04:35] FunnyLookinHat: I filed a sync request for it :-) [04:36] bddebian, oh awesome, sweet. Now I don't have to make my first package submission that horrible project ; ) [04:36] bddebian both Pysol and Scribus? [04:36] ausimage, he was referring to mythtv I believe [04:36] oh [04:37] ausimage, that bug hasn't yet been confirmed nor triaged... hopefully the team will get to it in the next day or so, they are about to begin a huge bug sorting event tomorow [04:37] ausimage: Scribus is in main [04:38] K... then I will make it is noted then === ubuntu_demon [n=depjayds@84-104-162-95.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ausimage [n=owner@pool-141-149-239-130.syr.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:41] looks like pysol needs remerged anyway [04:42] Aye but he left :-) === ajmitch is surprised Hobbsee hasn't done it already [04:42] why would i? === Hobbsee is currently dealing with kopete [04:43] because you're doing every other merge there? [04:46] Every other merge where? [04:49] ajmitch: far from it. [04:49] mmm [04:50] 24" panel for $1300 NZD [04:50] if only I could.. [04:50] heh [04:52] hrm am i doing this right ..... will " ^Subject. \[Bug.+\] " match something like "Subject: [Bug #3534532] dfgdftw sdfs sdf" === imbrandon hates regex sometimes [04:53] fskin mail filters gonna kill me sooner or later [04:54] ^Subject. \[Bug.+?\] .... hrm i need a way to check these against strings before i put them in .procmailrc [04:55] grep [04:55] or egrep, as the case may be [04:55] egrep? [04:58] hrem grep dosent like ^ or $ === TheMuso notices an update for xawtv, and goes to merge. [05:09] Which will hopefully fix the ia64/powerpc problems. [05:10] TheMuso: it ftbfs or is complicated. either one. [05:10] Hobbsee: ? [05:10] You mean the build log I pasted earlier? [05:10] Well it matters not now. [05:11] TheMuso: xawtv - i actually meant the merge of it [05:11] Tis actually not very complicated at all, but a lot has changed in the debian version. [05:11] ah [05:11] right [05:12] that was probably it, whihc is why i didnt merge it myself === TheMuso executes a pbuilder session for xawtv on two machines simultaneously, i386, and powerpc. [05:17] ajmitch: hmm, it didn't happen the second time [05:17] but I gotta get going, so I'll have to fight with nvidia tomorrow, at least I can boot now [05:18] have fun [05:26] fight nvidia? [05:26] good luck! [05:45] phew. Merged version of xawtv builds fine on i386. === TheMuso waits for powerpc. [05:47] Damn! Same error on powerpc as previous version. === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso decides to wait until tonight, and probe some devs about the build probs with xawtv on powerpc. === Marce_ [i=marce@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marce_ is now known as Marce [06:29] Gnight folks === hub found some new food to package === Sp4rKy [n=max@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:43] hey [06:57] wow, it's a party place in here tonight :-) [06:58] hi Sp4rKy === Hobbsee explodes a party cracker over LaserJock's head [06:58] :) === Sp4rKy working on audacious packaging ... === LaserJock launches a bottle rocket in Hobbsee's direction [06:59] yay :) [06:59] but it fails miserably and lands in the Pacific ;-) === Hobbsee diverts it so that it attacks ajmitch [06:59] haha === Fujitsu saves ajmitch. [07:00] taken one for the team [07:00] if i change OBJECTIVE_SONAME_SUFFIX in Makefile.in , that will change the real name of the library or only is soname [07:00] taking [07:00] I meant [07:04] ?? [07:04] taking one for the team, regarding Fujitsu's attempt to save ajmitch [07:05] Yep, there are few enough of us.... [07:08] and nobody could take a few second to help a desperate packager ? [07:08] Sp4rKy: probably just that we dont know, or something [07:11] 'morning everybody [07:11] heya Toadstool :) [07:12] hi Sp4rKy [07:12] Hobbsee, rhoooo :( [07:12] Toadstool, i'm (re)building audacious [07:20] would i be out of line asking bluefoxy to tone down the language a bit, we all slip now and then but it seems almost more from him and almost intentional at time , just to see if he can push the limits of -devel [07:20] nvm [07:21] imbrandon: no, i doubt it. but you'd probably need to be prepared for any responses you get. [07:21] imbrandon: it would be nice at some point === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:32] hehe imbrandon that was very well worded. :) === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:33] heh [07:33] cept for the normal typos from me ... [07:33] lol [07:34] Did he PM you? [07:34] no [07:34] Might have gone to bed. [07:34] I would be sure he would respond. [07:34] dunno heh [07:34] I thought he would anyway === elmargol [n=elmargol@host142-158.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:35] more likely to respond via a blog post,i expect [07:35] heh true tha. [07:35] that [07:35] heh [07:36] anyhow, so whats new in the MOTU world ? anything ? [07:42] imbrandon: you on the -motu mailing list? there's some stuff there, i think [07:42] yea === sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@ool-4577863a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:49] woot , i just realized my nick was over a year old on freenode ;) Registered: 1 year 4 weeks 1 day (3h 3m 5s) ago [07:49] not that that matters i guess heh ;) [07:50] 3 years 18 weeks 1 day (6h 59m 39s) ago === robitaille [i=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:50] Amaranth: nice ;) [07:50] heh [07:51] i had another nick for about a year, can't remember what it was [07:51] yea i had another nick on here a long while back but i forgot it also [07:51] never used it much [07:52] on this netwrk that is === Hobbsee got registered 49 weeks ago. [07:52] hehe [07:53] beat ya by ~7 weeks lol [07:53] true [07:53] just barely hehe [07:53] actually, the scary thing is that means i've only been using linux a bit longer than that. [07:53] heh [07:54] and am already a dev [07:54] ;) === sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@ool-4577863a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:57] heh i think ajmitch has most of us beat with almost 6 years ;) [07:59] Hobbsee: But you're one of those people who just picks things up quickly. [07:59] TheMuso: that is true. === redguy [n=mati@adr34.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:02] imbrandon: how do you figure that out? [08:02] /msg nickserv info LaserJock [08:02] ;) [08:03] looks like you and Hobbsee are almost dead even ;) [08:03] imbrandon: so I'm a slow learner.. [08:03] hehehe [08:03] Hobbsee: mwuahahaha [08:03] beat hear by 2 days [08:03] her [08:04] ajmitch: sorry mate. [08:04] LaserJock: hehe [08:04] Registered: 1 year 43 weeks 1 day (20h 49m 45s) ago [08:04] but I've been using Linux for longer so I guess it evens out [08:05] yea i started my linux trek sometime in 95 and started actualy USING it pretty much full time at work 97ish and on the desktop in 2001ish [08:05] oh joy, Hobbsee is going nuts again in other channels [08:05] lol [08:05] sabdfl's got 2 years [08:05] ajmitch: u-o ? [08:06] imbrandon: of course [08:06] heh [08:06] I got booted from there with no reason [08:06] i took that off my autojoin last week , too many tabs [08:06] if i could just get used to irssi hehe [08:06] no point me rejoining, I'll just get booted [08:06] lol [08:06] ajmitch: Bad aim. :) [08:06] ajmitch: sorry about that mate - bad nick completion. [08:06] Hobbsee: excuses === Hobbsee hugs ajmitch === imbrandon hands ajmitch a pointy stick ( just in case ) [08:07] imbrandon: I'm not going to use that on her [08:07] heh [08:07] hahahaha === Hobbsee knows where ajmitch lives. quite wise. [08:08] Hobbsee: you know a general area [08:08] we've been through this before ;) [08:08] actualy i seen ubugtu clue-by-four someone the other day, i about fell out of my seat laughing litterly [08:08] crimsun: only a few hours ago [08:09] i know the general areat too, its on the ubuntu-dev world map ;) [08:09] area* [08:09] ajmitch: is the only circle on the whole island ( leaste on that map ) [08:09] horrendously inaccurate thing === Hobbsee did have an address, but didnt write it down. [08:09] good night guys, and Hobbsee [08:10] night [08:10] night [08:10] night Laser_away [08:10] imbrandon: besides, I haven't had anyone come & visit me yet :) [08:10] hehe [08:11] apart from LCA at the start of the year, of course [08:11] lca ? [08:11] linux.conf.au [08:11] ahh cool [08:11] yea i wanna make it to one of those here in the US sometime, probably not this year though obviously [08:12] ubucon would be cool too === ajmitch wonders if he'll bother with dinner tonight [08:13] ajmitch: yes you will. [08:13] I will? [08:13] are you going to force-feed me or something? 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[02:19] engla, we use REVU to check new packages [02:19] !revu [02:19] REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU [02:20] tseng: heh you dont like it ? its just temp anyhow untill i photoshop a real mugshot === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AFDCA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:20] imbrandon: ok === nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:0:1ce:c01d] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:30] <\sh> moins [02:31] hey sh === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:32] hi \sh === tseng hugs Hobbsee, wireshark [02:32] <\sh> how are the motus doing? [02:32] hi all! [02:32] wireshark? [02:32] \sh: good to see you still alive === Hobbsee hugs tseng === Hobbsee is here to take over the world! [02:32] <\sh> I'm fighting with a compaq smartarray p600 sas raid controller in a hp dl360g4p...and grub from ubuntu is not working, strange [02:35] \sh: is it using a special device? === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:37] <\sh> zul: /dev/cciss/c0d0 as BOOT_DEVICE, /dev/cciss/c0d0p3 as boot_partition [02:37] <\sh> zul: with SuSE Enterprise Linux Version 9 it works [02:37] dapper or edgy? [02:37] <\sh> zul: dapper [02:37] hmmm...lemme check something.. [02:38] <\sh> error message is : GRUB hard disk error...regarding the documentation of grub, it tells me: wrong disk geometry from the bios [02:39] it might be a patch in grub that isnt working correctly have you tried edgy on it? [02:40] <\sh> zul: no...I can't use edgy [02:40] ergh.. [02:40] i dont have an dapper box to look at the source :( [02:41] wait...never mind...gimme a sec [02:42] grub is looking for the /dev/cciss/c%dd%d where %d and %d is controller and drive [02:43] \sh: can you extract the rpm source for suse and look for their raid_ccis patch? === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:44] <\sh> zul: that's what I'm doing now :) [02:44] ah === micahcowan [n=micah@adsl-69-236-70-149.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:49] <\sh> zul: they don't have any patches for raid_cciss...but they have a force-lba=off patch, initaddr patch etc. [02:50] i thought they did.. === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pirast [n=martin@p508B2AD2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] <\sh> zul: their version is 0.94 ... 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[05:56] so they are used when not running pbuilder? === bluefoxicy [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:03] is there any chance of getting a new wine by edgy === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns02-0048.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:04] 9.9 vs 9.19 you know, although I guess debian could be lagging *looks* [06:04] 9.15 is in debian [06:04] how do I request a merge from debian? [06:05] did you do the merge already? [06:06] azeem: no, I mean debian unstable has wine 0.9.15, Ubuntu has 0.9.9, and 0.9.19 is out. How do I request the package from Debian Unstable be merged into Edgy universe, if possible? [06:06] (which seems to be what most of the changelogs for stuff I'm getting say-- "sync from debian unstable" or "merged from debian unstable" or whatnot) [06:06] bluefoxicy: what do you mean, "request"? [06:06] this is a developer channel, I assume you want to do the work yourself [06:07] azeem: Well.. I'm not ubuntu's wine maintainer, and somebody's doing it, I figured somebody else was in charge of it o_o [06:07] bluefoxicy: you should check what changes in the Ubuntu package are still needed and how to merge them [06:07] okay... is there a way to do that? [06:07] if somebody is already in charge, requesting it does not make sense [06:08] wow, it looks like nobody is in charge of it :) [06:08] all the changelog entries are from different people [06:09] MOTU is in charge [06:11] well I'll have to look at it later [06:11] I have to get ready to go take the security+ [06:12] so maybe when I get back. === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:15] Heya gang [06:16] azeem: actually the flags are not used whether I use pbuilder or not [06:17] Lutin: paste your debian/rules to a pastebin [06:17] ok [06:18] hi bddebian [06:18] Heya lfittl [06:20] azeem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20776 === nathandh [n=nathandh@dD5779A06.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bazzi [n=Bastian@p508018AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:22] Lutin: try putting that below the include directives === nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:0:1ce:c01d] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nathandh [n=nathandh@dD5779A06.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:22] azeem; trying right now [06:24] azeem, right, that works [06:24] thanks alot [06:25] cheers === bddebian cheers azeem [06:31] bddebian: you mean I'm late for the beer hall? *g* [06:32] Heh [06:34] morning guys [06:34] Heya LaserJock [06:34] azeem: I know someone in Debian is working on bkchem but do you have any interest in looking at what I put on REVU? === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:35] Wow, lintian not only detected that the FSF address in my copyright file was obsolete and gave me the new address, it even detected a spelling error in the description. Very cool. :-) [06:35] heh [06:40] hmm, I can't figure out why X won't show up in edgy [06:40] anybody seen where X just doesn't show up? [06:40] I have a box where it seems to have whacked the h and v refresh so I get a monitor error with no display :-) [06:41] that's the thing [06:41] I haven't been able to find an error [06:41] it just drops me to a tty [06:41] Well I was getting that for a while before the i810 driver got fixed === Lutin [n=albin@lns-bzn-59-82-252-191-113.adsl.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["mv] === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:44] well, this is on an nvidia card [06:54] bddebian: I'm off to the beer hall now :) [06:54] Debian birthday party [06:54] azeem: Enjoy === nathandh [n=marc@dD5779A06.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:54] Thanks for the response on bkchem btw ;-P [06:55] bddebian: well, Daniel packaged it [06:55] bddebian: what was your motivation to package it? [06:55] I didn't know someone had already done it and LaserJock mentioned he would like it [06:56] ok [06:57] doh, blame it on me [06:58] I said *I* was going to package it [06:58] that's what you get for stealing other people's packages ;-) [06:58] Heh === bddebian was just trying to help :'-( [06:59] you still get like 10 times more MOTU work done than me so... [06:59] I'm off now for real, laters [07:00] Later azeem === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar is now known as jaldhar === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@85-125-227-23.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === joejaxx [i=jadaz87@unaffiliated/joejaxx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nathandh [n=marc@dD5779A06.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nathandh [n=na@dD5779A06.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@86.67.45.131] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@leary.ping.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@222-34-50.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral_Laptop [n=Kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schultmc [n=schultmc@zealot.progeny.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xopher [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === matid [n=matid@195.116.35.7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral_Laptop [n=Kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:15] what are those icons in forums called again? === nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:0:1ce:c01d] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GreyStar_ [n=SoS@cpe-24-167-43-76.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU === Hawkwind [n=SoS@ulteo/community/leader/forum/admin/Hawkwind] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU === mc44 [n=rddpr@ip-81-170-48-115.cust.homechoice.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:48] good evening === chanakya [n=guest@202.141.145.18] has joined #ubuntu-motu === evand [n=evan_d@72.20.218.20] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:02] Hi, I want to join MOTu/Games team , tell me how i can help [10:03] what's your LP username? [10:04] crimsun, gauravtechie [10:07] crimsun, ??? [10:07] chanakya: have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/Games ? [10:09] crimsun, yep, Would like to help in packaging , But can`t have access to IRC at workplace [10:09] crimsun, would love if we have a mailing list , it`s easier to follow [10:09] hey phanatic, found some time to look at bzr-wmt? :) [10:10] crimsun, top of all would like to know whom do i approach for help ? [10:10] lfittl: not yet :( i was hunting laptops all day [10:11] phanatic: k, just ping me when you found time, would be interested in your feedback ;) [10:11] lfittl: sure :) [10:13] chanakya: any of the MOTU listed at the top of that page [10:14] crimsun, thanks [10:16] crimsun, My request to Join Motu-games at Launchpad has not yet been answered [10:17] chanakya: it will be when the admins have free time [10:17] crimsun, Lathiat is the Owner [10:18] crimsun, ok [10:18] since the vast majority of us are volunteers with real non-Canonical-paid jobs, it behooves us to be patient :) [10:22] crimsun, :) [10:24] Cya all === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@85.25.104.205] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@ip67-155-75-49.z75-155-67.customer.algx.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:53] morning [11:53] Heya ajmitch [11:53] morning ajmitch [11:53] eveninig [11:54] hi ajmitch et al. [11:55] hey lj [11:55] Heya LaserJock, lfittl, zul :-) [11:56] and that's what seperates the scientists from the the common folk ;-) [11:56] j/k [11:57] harsh [11:57] that scientists make smartass jokes ;) [11:57] Later folks [11:57] piled higher and deeper [11:57] hehe [11:58] pin-headed dope [11:58] I've heard them all [11:58] I've heard the first one === ajmitch has a few friends that have done phds