[12:26] <lfittl> phanatic: launchpad product is bzr-wmt (https://launchpad.net/products/bzr-wmt)
[12:27] <phanatic> lfittl: subscribed ;)
[12:29] <lfittl> :)
[12:29] <phanatic> oh, ubuntu bug day again... i'm away again...
[12:30] <lfittl> and I have to work :/
[12:31] <lfittl> why aren't there bug days on the weekend, that would be nicer..
[12:32] <lfittl> should go to bed, gn8 everybody
[12:32] <phanatic> lfittl: me too, good night :)
[01:40] <bddebian> Heya gang
[01:40] <imbrandon> heya bddebian
[01:40] <bddebian> Hi imbrandon
[01:57] <LaserJock> hi bddebian and imbrandon
[01:58] <bddebian> Heya LaserJock
[01:59] <imbrandon> heya LaserJock
[02:00] <imbrandon> content lacking atm ( havent re-imported all my old stuff from my old blog yet ) can i get some opinions on my {gimp,photoshop} and layout work on the new wordpessized http://www.imbrandon.com
[02:00] <imbrandon> LaserJock , bddebian ^^ ( and anyone else that cares to waste 5 minutes )
[02:00] <crimsun> wordpressed, you mean?
[02:01] <imbrandon> heh yea
[02:01] <crimsun> heh, I was wondering what "wordpessized" entail
[02:01] <crimsun> +ed
[02:01] <bddebian> Nice :-)
[02:01] <bddebian> crimsun: I remember what I was going to ask you.  What issues should I look for in mythtv from Marillat?
[02:02] <imbrandon> heh well it was ahome grown php solution before , i decided i was spending more time coding the blog then bloging so i installed wordpress and am converting my old db posts ;)
[02:02] <trygg> Heh, why cant i apt-get mplayer? I only find kmplayer.
[02:02] <imbrandon> trygg: you need universe and multiverse enabled
[02:02] <imbrandon> !repos
[02:02] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:02] <trygg> imbrandon: i have them enabled!
[02:02] <trygg> Thats the wierd thing.
[02:02] <LaserJock> make sure you have updated
[02:03] <LaserJock> because it's in there
[02:03] <imbrandon> brandon@voyager:~$ apt-cache madison mplayer
[02:03] <imbrandon>    mplayer | 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu4 | http://192.168.1.5 edgy/multiverse Packages
[02:03] <imbrandon>    mplayer | 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu4 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages
[02:03] <crimsun> bddebian: "everything".
[02:03] <trygg> madison mplayer?
[02:04] <LaserJock> madison gives you information about a package
[02:05] <trygg> Even if i update it wont find it, it says it has no installation candidate
[02:05] <bddebian> crimsun: Well it looks pretty clean afaict
[02:06] <imbrandon> trygg: pastebin your sources.list and lets take this to #{k}ubuntu
[02:06] <crimsun> lin{tian,da}-clean?
[02:07] <bddebian> crimsun: Me?  I haven't checked that yet.  I'm test-building it now
[02:07] <trygg> imbrandon: they said i should go here. :p
[02:08] <imbrandon> trygg: well this isnt a support channel but i'll be more than happy to help you in #kubuntu if you pastbein your sources.list and give me the url in there so we do not clutter up this channell any further
[02:11] <trygg> Gotcha.
[02:27] <imbrandon> i think that was the shortest TB meeting ever
[02:27] <imbrandon> heh
[02:27] <crimsun> did any candidates even bother to show?
[02:28] <TheMuso> Were there any?
[02:28] <imbrandon> no it was a whole 8 minutes .... hold on
[02:28] <crimsun> TheMuso: a couple iirc, but I didn't recognise them
[02:28] <imbrandon> http://pastebin.ca/133614
[02:29] <imbrandon> one whole screen , not even that
[02:29] <imbrandon> heh
[02:29] <TheMuso> heh
[02:29] <crimsun> lovely. :D
[02:31] <jsgotangco> lol
[02:31] <TheMuso> Hahahahaha!
[02:32] <bddebian> When was the meeting?  I tried to join.
[02:32] <jsgotangco> that was tight and intense
[02:32] <LaserJock> hehe
[02:32] <LaserJock> bddebian: you came in after I did I think
[02:32] <bddebian> Hmm
[02:33] <TheMuso> Yow! The latest alternate i386 image is big.
[02:36] <heras> Hi everyone, I've got a question about MOTU-School so I thought I'd ask here. Afew days ago I joined a session on packaging, hosted by Laserjock.
[02:37] <bddebian> Hi heras
[02:37] <bddebian> Shoot
[02:37] <imbrandon> ok heras ask away
[02:37] <heras> Now I want more. Is there an announce list of what, where and when on MOTU-School? Couldn't find it on the wiki page ...
[02:38] <imbrandon> bddebian: it was about 4 hours ago from ym logs
[02:38] <LaserJock> heras: it will be on the MOTU School wiki page
[02:38] <imbrandon> heras: they are announced on the Fridge and on the Fridge Calendar and also ..... /me looks for the mailing list
[02:39] <LaserJock> we just need teachers to sign up
[02:39] <LaserJock> it's a lot of work
[02:39] <LaserJock> wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/Requests is the list of requested topics
[02:39] <heras> Yes, and it's very much appreciated :)
[02:40] <imbrandon> heras: seems they are sent to ubuntu-motu, ubuntu-devel, kubuntu-devel
[02:40] <imbrandon> Mailing list also
[02:40] <heras> wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/Requests: excellent!
[02:40] <LaserJock> I just need to poke somebody to sign up for next week
[02:40] <LaserJock> *cough*bddebian*cough*
[02:41] <imbrandon> ;P
[02:41] <heras> I may end up contributing a package yet :D
[02:41] <LaserJock> good
[02:41] <LaserJock> we are also getting a sticky on the ubuntu forums
[02:41] <imbrandon> you can help with existing packages , merges, and syncs too ;)
[02:42] <heras> MAybe Ubuntu_demon can make a subforum for it. I'll ask him.
[02:42] <LaserJock> I don't know that we need a subforum
[02:42] <LaserJock> most of the actual material should stay on the wiki
[02:42] <LaserJock> but a sticky for announcements is good
[02:43] <imbrandon> yea
[02:43] <heras> Well, The fridge posted your session after it was done (the fisrt session)...
[02:43] <LaserJock> well, we just need to get better about annoucements
[02:44] <LaserJock> and plan before hand
[02:44] <LaserJock> but this is a significant time drain so it's not always easy to do
[02:45] <heras> Anyway, I think MOTU-School is really cool, I'll be joining as often as I can. Thank you for your effort and time!
[02:45] <LaserJock> thanks for joining in
[02:45] <LaserJock> we're glad that people appreciate it
[02:46] <heras> Ok :) thanks again and good night. Bed time for me.
[02:47] <ajmitch> hi
[02:47] <imbrandon> heya ajmitch
[02:51] <bddebian> Heya ajmitch
[02:52] <gnomefreak> hey does anyone feel like merging gnomebaker? im heading out of town in like 8 hours (my night time here) and i wont be back for a week or so? oh and it cant be synced its a manual merge(if that makes sense)
[02:53] <gnomefreak> after about an hour fighting with merge-buildpackage i threw up hands for now. so if someone wants it take it
[02:53] <bddebian> I don't do gnome packages anymore since I get in trouble :-)
[02:53] <crimsun> I'll look at it, assign it to me please.
[02:53] <gnomefreak> wtf just happened
[02:53] <crimsun> (I already got the rejected sync request)
[02:54] <gnomefreak> crimsun: i dont know how to assgin it siretart let me have it to learn on
[02:55] <crimsun> which bug?
[02:55] <crimsun> (no access to my e-mail atm)
[02:55] <gnomefreak> k hold on
[02:56] <gnomefreak> crimsun: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnomebaker/+bug/56001
[02:56] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56001 in gnomebaker "[Edgy MoM]  Please sync gnomebaker" [Untriaged,Rejected] 
[02:56] <imbrandon> anyone know what would cause this on an apt-get upgrade ? http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=8143  <-- a friend at my lug is getting it
[02:57] <gnomefreak> wth is happening here :(
[02:57] <crimsun> gnomefreak: click the name of the source package under Affects, then change Assigned to
[02:57] <gnomefreak> k
[02:57] <ajmitch> imbrandon: yes
[02:57] <tseng> bddebian: < sigh
[02:57] <imbrandon> ajmitch: and that is ?
[02:57] <tseng> bddebian: please hurt him
[02:57] <ajmitch> imbrandon: your friend has source that's most likely python 2.4-specific
[02:58] <ajmitch> Five is a zope product meant to provide zope 3 stuff on zope 2.x
[02:58] <imbrandon> in his sources.list ?
[02:58] <bddebian> tseng: :-)  Well I am curious what to do with snort
[02:58] <ajmitch> imbrandon: I've seen this error before :)
[02:58] <ajmitch> imbrandon: no, I mean the python source
[02:59] <gnomefreak> k its yours crimsun
[02:59] <imbrandon> mind if i ask him to pop in here or do you mind joining #kclug to help us get this fixed up ?
[02:59] <crimsun> gnomefreak: k.
[02:59] <imbrandon> ajmitch: ^^
[02:59] <ajmitch> imbrandon: is he trying to upgrade to dapper?
[02:59] <gnomefreak> ok i just had my backgrounds die on me brb
[03:01] <bddebian> crimsun: Well mythtv seems pretty linda/lintian clean
[03:02] <crimsun> ok, have you checked with funnyhat/whomever and the rest of the motumedia team for mythtv 0.19x plans?
[03:03] <crimsun> (frankly I don't know of any plans, so afaic, go nuts and upload it)
[03:06] <imbrandon> ajmitch: thanks for heling him ( or trying to ) , bbiab
[03:06] <imbrandon> s/heling/helping
[03:19] <welshbyte> re: https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/236934 when do these builds happen then? does it need someone to tweak the package first?
[03:20] <ajmitch> they happen automatically
[03:20] <ajmitch> there's a queue of packages that need built
[03:20] <welshbyte> ah ok
[03:21] <ajmitch> of course, you can usually view some of these queues when launchpad isn't breaking & complaining
[03:22] <welshbyte> i guess i'm still not sure of how the initial packaging --> binary package propagating to repositories flow works... is there a wiki page?
[03:22] <bddebian> crimsun: FunnyLookinHat was looking at it but didn't have time I guess
[03:23] <ajmitch> welshbyte: we upload source packages, they go into a queue for building if there are no new source/binary packages
[03:23] <ajmitch> it can take a little while
[03:23] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: you mean there are times when it isnt broken?  :P
[03:24] <ajmitch> https://launchpad.net/+builds <- we can see that the buildds are busy doing stuff
[03:24] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: so they claim
[03:24] <Hobbsee> hah
[03:24] <welshbyte> heh another nook of launchpad i've never seen before.. that thing needs a sitemap
[03:25] <ajmitch> it's a house that keeps getting rooms tacked on
[03:25] <zul> or when people ask to sync cdbs
[03:25] <ajmitch> you should be able to look at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+builds
[03:25] <ajmitch> except that it probably gives a timeout
[03:26] <zul> heh
[03:26] <Hobbsee> yay for gnomebaker.  manual merge
[03:27] <bddebian> Anyone have any thoughts/cares about snort?
[03:27] <welshbyte> i try to stay off the coke, myself :)
[03:27] <TheMuso> lol
[03:27] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:28] <ajmitch> bddebian: go ahead & do it, noone's stopping you
[03:28] <bddebian> ajmitch: That isn't the point
[03:28] <TheMuso> Anybody know how such a problem like what is shown in this build log: http://librarian.launchpad.net/3916301/buildlog_ubuntu-edgy-powerpc.xawtv_3.94-1.2ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz can be solved?
[03:29] <TheMuso> Package built ok on amd64, i386, and sparc. Needs building on ia64, but when the first attemt was made, the same error occurred.
[03:29] <TheMuso> I am trying it in a powerpc pbuilder again to see what happens here.
[03:35] <Hobbsee> TheMuso: console/fbtools.c:427: error: 'PAGE_MASK' undeclared (first use in this function)
[03:35] <Hobbsee> correct header file not included, or something?
[03:36] <TheMuso> Hobbsee: I don''t know. I am waiting for my powerpc pbuilder to finish to see what happens.
[03:36] <TheMuso> It is still working out deps. :)
[03:36] <Hobbsee> hah
[03:36] <Hobbsee> yeah
[03:36] <TheMuso> It is only a powermac G3 300 after all.
[03:36] <DarkMageZ> could someone have alook @ this .diff, patch is crying about line 286 and i just have no idea why http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20724
[03:37] <ajmitch> DarkMageZ: explain what patch is doing - is it rejecting that patch hunk?
[03:37] <DarkMageZ> " **** malformed patch at line 286: --- rhythmbox-0.9.5.orig/debian/rules
[03:37] <DarkMageZ> "
[03:38] <ajmitch> fun
[03:38] <ajmitch> how are you trying to apply this?
[03:38] <bddebian> Heya DarkMageZ
[03:38] <bddebian> Damn I hate outdated packages :-(
[03:38] <DarkMageZ> patch -p1 -i ../*patchname*
[03:39] <welshbyte> is it line 286 of the patch or the rules file?
[03:39] <ajmitch> against a clean upstream tarball?
[03:39] <ajmitch> unpacked tarball, that is
[03:40] <DarkMageZ> i'm trying to apply it against cvs, it was working last night (but other things wern't working then) so i ditched all my work and started again
[03:41] <bddebian> If we jump Debian from Upstream, do we automatically become the "Ubuntu maintainer"?
[03:42] <ajmitch> generally not
[03:42] <DarkMageZ> the cvs version of that file i'm trying to change hasn't changed in 2 years. i'm guessing i've just made some stupid mistake in the patch... tho i was very very careful
[03:43] <bddebian> Damn I hate not knowing what the "right" thing to do is
[03:46] <DarkMageZ> i've probably spent about 6 hours trying to build this package in total... and the patch only changes things in the /debian/ directory which hasn't changed in 2 years
[03:47] <LaserJock> bddebian: the right thing to do is help me figure out what the heck happended to edgy to make it not boot for me :-)
[03:50] <bddebian> LaserJock: What's happening?
[03:50] <LaserJock> I get this weird thing were it can't find / when booting
[03:50] <LaserJock> apparently it's happend in dapper to a lot of people
[03:50] <bddebian> LVM?
[03:51] <LaserJock> on 1 yes, on the other no
[03:51] <bddebian> Hmm
[03:51] <LaserJock> I've tried 2 today and got the same problem
[03:51] <bddebian> Doh
[03:51] <LaserJock> one I was able to edit grub to point to /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root
[03:51] <LaserJock> for LVM and it seems ok
[03:51] <LaserJock> but the other one I just have no idea
[03:52] <LaserJock> and I ended up having to reinstall dapper
[03:52] <bddebian> The non-lvm one is the one that doesn't boot?
[03:52] <LaserJock> well, I wiped the hard drive and installed dapper
[03:52] <LaserJock> but I'd like to try edgy again
[03:52] <ajmitch> did the initramfs have the appropriate drivers in it?
[03:52] <bddebian> Aye
[03:52] <LaserJock> I think so
[03:53] <welshbyte> i've heard of people having trouble with the UUID's in the grub config but that was in the context of RAID arrays
[03:53] <LaserJock> it just hangs on "waiting for  root filesystem"
[03:53] <LaserJock> welshbyte: yeah, something like that
[03:53] <welshbyte> could try replacing the UUID with /dev/hdX
[03:53] <ajmitch> LaserJock: quite usual if the drivers aren't there or LVM isn't initialised
[03:54] <ajmitch> also quite annoying
[03:54] <LaserJock> welshbyte: tried that
[03:54] <ajmitch> LaserJock: dapper or edgy?
[03:54] <LaserJock> edgy
[03:54] <LaserJock> dapper worked fine, on both machines
[03:54] <LaserJock> the current problem one doesn't use LVM
[03:54] <ajmitch> tried with /dev/sdX then?
[03:54] <LaserJock> yes
[03:54] <ajmitch> great
[03:55] <welshbyte> hmm
[03:55] <ajmitch> it woud have eventually dropped you to a shell
[03:55] <LaserJock> tried all combinations of /dev/sdX and /dev/hdX I could think of
[03:55] <ajmitch> where you could check what's there
[03:55] <welshbyte> no need to think, grub has tab complete ;)
[03:55] <LaserJock> it didn't work
[03:55] <LaserJock> it couldn't find anything
[03:55] <ajmitch> welshbyte: tab completion is useless there
[03:55] <welshbyte> oh :/
[03:56] <welshbyte> oh yeah, only works with the (hdx,y) format doesn't it
[03:56] <ajmitch> LaserJock: are you currently using that machine, or do you have it with you?
[03:56] <LaserJock> I'm not using it right now
[03:56] <LaserJock> it's about 4 ft from me ;-)
[03:57] <ajmitch> ok
[03:57] <ajmitch> can you start it & let it drop to busybox after the timeout?
[04:01] <LaserJock> well, I'm dist-upgrading so it'll take a bit ;-)
[04:01] <LaserJock> I'll let you know when I'm ready
[04:13] <jsgotangco> lol Redhat network is not available at the moment grrrr
[04:15] <imbrandon> heh
[04:16] <imbrandon> hrm i need to find a good regex primer /me google's
[04:34] <FunnyLookinHat> bddebian, were you looking into the new marillat package for mythtv 0.19 or was that someone else?  I cannot recall
[04:34] <FunnyLookinHat> I'm about ready to get back into the swing of things this weekend after my move and wanted to catch up on the progress of that
[04:34] <ausimage> I was wondering what is the status of updating Deps on Pysol and Scribus to the current Edgy Python packages. It has been stalled for weeks.
[04:35] <FunnyLookinHat> ausimage, is there a bug out for it?  there may be comments pending it's status
[04:35] <ausimage> I filed bug #56281 for pysol
[04:35] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56281 in pysol "Edgy Dependency Issue" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/56281
[04:35] <ausimage> though I forgot for scribus
[04:35] <bddebian> FunnyLookinHat: I filed a sync request for it :-)
[04:36] <FunnyLookinHat> bddebian, oh awesome, sweet.  Now I don't have to make my first package submission that horrible project  ; )
[04:36] <ausimage> bddebian both Pysol and Scribus?
[04:36] <FunnyLookinHat> ausimage, he was referring to mythtv I believe
[04:36] <ausimage> oh
[04:37] <FunnyLookinHat> ausimage, that bug hasn't yet been confirmed nor triaged...  hopefully the team will get to it in the next day or so, they are about to begin a huge bug sorting event tomorow
[04:37] <bddebian> ausimage: Scribus is in main
[04:38] <ausimage> K... then I will make it is noted then
[04:41] <ajmitch> looks like pysol needs remerged anyway
[04:42] <bddebian> Aye but he left :-)
[04:42] <Hobbsee> why would i?
[04:43] <ajmitch> because you're doing every other merge there?
[04:46] <bddebian> Every other merge where?
[04:49] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: far from it.
[04:49] <ajmitch> mmm
[04:50] <ajmitch> 24" panel for $1300 NZD
[04:50] <ajmitch> if only I could..
[04:50] <imbrandon> heh
[04:52] <imbrandon> hrm am i doing this right ..... will " ^Subject. \[Bug.+\]  " match something like "Subject: [Bug #3534532]  dfgdftw sdfs sdf"
[04:53] <imbrandon> fskin mail filters gonna kill me sooner or later
[04:54] <imbrandon> ^Subject. \[Bug.+?\]  .... hrm i need a way to check these against strings before i put them in .procmailrc
[04:55] <ajmitch> grep
[04:55] <ajmitch> or egrep, as the case may be
[04:55] <imbrandon> egrep?
[04:58] <imbrandon> hrem grep dosent like ^ or $
[05:09] <TheMuso> Which will hopefully fix the ia64/powerpc problems.
[05:10] <Hobbsee> TheMuso: it ftbfs or is complicated.  either one.
[05:10] <TheMuso> Hobbsee: ?
[05:10] <TheMuso> You mean the build log I pasted earlier?
[05:10] <TheMuso> Well it matters not now.
[05:11] <Hobbsee> TheMuso: xawtv - i actually meant the merge of it
[05:11] <TheMuso> Tis actually not very complicated at all, but a lot has changed in the debian version.
[05:11] <Hobbsee> ah
[05:11] <Hobbsee> right
[05:12] <Hobbsee> that was probably it, whihc is why i didnt merge it myself
[05:17] <Laser_away> ajmitch: hmm, it didn't happen the second time
[05:17] <Laser_away> but I gotta get going, so I'll have to fight with nvidia tomorrow, at least I can boot now
[05:18] <ajmitch> have fun
[05:26] <jsgotangco> fight nvidia?
[05:26] <jsgotangco> good luck!
[05:45] <TheMuso> phew. Merged version of xawtv builds fine on i386.
[05:47] <TheMuso> Damn! Same error on powerpc as previous version.
[06:29] <bddebian> Gnight folks
[06:43] <Sp4rKy> hey
[06:57] <LaserJock> wow, it's a party place in here tonight :-)
[06:58] <Hobbsee> hi Sp4rKy
[06:58] <Sp4rKy> :)
[06:59] <Hobbsee> yay :)
[06:59] <LaserJock> but it fails miserably and lands in the Pacific ;-)
[06:59] <Hobbsee> haha
[07:00] <LaserJock> taken one for the team
[07:00] <Sp4rKy> if i change OBJECTIVE_SONAME_SUFFIX in Makefile.in , that will change the real name of the library or only is soname
[07:00] <LaserJock> taking
[07:00] <LaserJock> I meant
[07:04] <Sp4rKy> ??
[07:04] <LaserJock> taking one for the team, regarding Fujitsu's attempt to save ajmitch
[07:05] <Fujitsu> Yep, there are few enough of us....
[07:08] <Sp4rKy> and nobody could take a few second to help a desperate packager ?
[07:08] <Hobbsee> Sp4rKy: probably just that we dont know, or something
[07:11] <Toadstool> 'morning everybody
[07:11] <Sp4rKy> heya Toadstool :)
[07:12] <Toadstool> hi Sp4rKy
[07:12] <Sp4rKy> Hobbsee, rhoooo :(
[07:12] <Sp4rKy> Toadstool, i'm (re)building audacious
[07:20] <imbrandon> would i be out of line asking bluefoxy to tone down the language a bit, we all slip now and then but it seems almost more from him and almost intentional at time , just to see if he can push the limits of -devel
[07:20] <imbrandon> nvm
[07:21] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: no, i doubt it.  but you'd probably need to be prepared for any responses you get.
[07:21] <LaserJock> imbrandon: it would be nice at some point
[07:32] <TheMuso> hehe imbrandon that was very well worded. :)
[07:33] <imbrandon> heh
[07:33] <imbrandon> cept for the normal typos from me ...
[07:33] <imbrandon> lol
[07:34] <TheMuso> Did he PM you?
[07:34] <imbrandon> no
[07:34] <TheMuso> Might have gone to bed.
[07:34] <TheMuso> I would be sure he would respond.
[07:34] <imbrandon> dunno heh
[07:34] <TheMuso> I thought he would anyway
[07:35] <Hobbsee> more likely to respond via a blog post,i expect
[07:35] <TheMuso> heh true tha.
[07:35] <TheMuso> that
[07:35] <imbrandon> heh
[07:36] <imbrandon> anyhow, so whats new in the MOTU world ? anything ?
[07:42] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: you on the -motu mailing list?  there's some stuff there, i think
[07:42] <imbrandon> yea
[07:49] <imbrandon> woot , i just realized my nick was over a year old on freenode ;) Registered: 1 year 4 weeks 1 day (3h 3m 5s) ago
[07:49] <imbrandon> not that that matters i guess heh ;)
[07:50] <Amaranth> 3 years 18 weeks 1 day (6h 59m 39s) ago
[07:50] <imbrandon> Amaranth: nice ;)
[07:50] <imbrandon> heh
[07:51] <Amaranth> i had another nick for about a year, can't remember what it was
[07:51] <imbrandon> yea i had another nick on here  a long while back but i forgot it also
[07:51] <imbrandon> never used it much
[07:52] <imbrandon> on this netwrk that is
[07:52] <imbrandon> hehe
[07:53] <imbrandon> beat ya by ~7 weeks lol
[07:53] <Hobbsee> true
[07:53] <imbrandon> just barely hehe
[07:53] <Hobbsee> actually, the scary thing is that means i've only been using linux a bit longer than that.
[07:53] <imbrandon> heh
[07:54] <Hobbsee> and am already a dev
[07:54] <imbrandon> ;)
[07:57] <imbrandon> heh i think ajmitch has most of us beat with almost 6 years ;)
[07:59] <TheMuso> Hobbsee: But you're one of those people who just picks things up quickly.
[07:59] <Hobbsee> TheMuso: that is true.
[08:02] <LaserJock> imbrandon: how do you figure that out?
[08:02] <imbrandon>  /msg nickserv info LaserJock
[08:02] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:03] <imbrandon> looks like you and Hobbsee are almost dead even ;)
[08:03] <ajmitch> imbrandon: so I'm a slow learner..
[08:03] <imbrandon> hehehe
[08:03] <LaserJock> Hobbsee: mwuahahaha
[08:03] <LaserJock> beat hear by 2 days
[08:03] <LaserJock> her
[08:04] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: sorry mate.
[08:04] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: hehe
[08:04] <TheMuso> Registered: 1 year 43 weeks 1 day (20h 49m 45s) ago
[08:04] <LaserJock> but I've been using Linux for longer so I guess it evens out
[08:05] <imbrandon> yea i started my linux trek sometime in 95 and started actualy USING it pretty much full time at work 97ish and on the desktop in 2001ish
[08:05] <ajmitch> oh joy, Hobbsee is going nuts again in other channels
[08:05] <imbrandon> lol
[08:05] <LaserJock> sabdfl's got 2 years
[08:05] <imbrandon> ajmitch: u-o ?
[08:06] <ajmitch> imbrandon: of course
[08:06] <imbrandon> heh
[08:06] <ajmitch> I got booted from there with no reason
[08:06] <imbrandon> i took that off my autojoin last week , too many tabs
[08:06] <imbrandon> if i could just get used to irssi hehe
[08:06] <ajmitch> no point me rejoining, I'll just get booted
[08:06] <imbrandon> lol
[08:06] <Amaranth> ajmitch: Bad aim. :)
[08:06] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: sorry about that mate - bad nick completion.
[08:06] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: excuses
[08:07] <ajmitch> imbrandon: I'm not going to use that on her
[08:07] <imbrandon> heh
[08:07] <TheMuso> hahahaha
[08:08] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: you know a general area
[08:08] <crimsun> we've been through this before ;)
[08:08] <imbrandon> actualy i seen ubugtu clue-by-four someone the other day, i about fell out of my seat laughing litterly
[08:08] <ajmitch> crimsun: only a few hours ago
[08:09] <imbrandon> i know the general areat too, its on the ubuntu-dev world map ;)
[08:09] <imbrandon> area*
[08:09] <imbrandon> ajmitch: is the only circle on the whole island ( leaste on that map )
[08:09] <ajmitch> horrendously inaccurate thing
[08:09] <Laser_away> good night guys, and Hobbsee
[08:10] <ajmitch> night
[08:10] <imbrandon> night
[08:10] <Hobbsee> night Laser_away
[08:10] <ajmitch> imbrandon: besides, I haven't had anyone come & visit me yet :)
[08:10] <imbrandon> hehe
[08:11] <ajmitch> apart from LCA at the start of the year, of course
[08:11] <imbrandon> lca ?
[08:11] <ajmitch> linux.conf.au
[08:11] <imbrandon> ahh cool
[08:11] <imbrandon> yea i wanna make it to one of those here in the US sometime, probably not this year though obviously
[08:12] <imbrandon> ubucon would be cool too
[08:13] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: yes you will.
[08:13] <ajmitch> I will?
[08:13] <ajmitch> are you going to force-feed me or something?
[08:13] <imbrandon> would be a good idea ( to bother with it )
[08:13] <imbrandon> heh
[08:13] <ajmitch> considering the fun of trying to get to dunedin, I think you won't
[08:17] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: no...i dont think so...
[11:43] <Kaleo> hello
[12:38] <tseng> imbrandon: sigh @ hackergotchi
[02:18] <engla> I made an app that I want to be included in universe
[02:18] <engla> and an ubuntu package.. how do I know if the package is good enough?
[02:19] <Gloubiboulga> engla, we use REVU to check new packages
[02:19] <Gloubiboulga> !revu
[02:19] <ubotu> REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU
[02:20] <imbrandon> tseng: heh you dont like it ? its just temp anyhow untill i photoshop a real mugshot
[02:20] <tseng> imbrandon: ok
[02:30] <\sh> moins
[02:31] <zul> hey sh
[02:32] <ajmitch> hi \sh
[02:32] <\sh> how are the motus doing?
[02:32] <Hobbsee> hi all!
[02:32] <Hobbsee> wireshark?
[02:32] <ajmitch> \sh: good to see you still alive
[02:32] <\sh> I'm fighting with a compaq smartarray p600 sas raid controller in a hp dl360g4p...and grub from ubuntu is not working, strange
[02:35] <zul> \sh: is it using a special device?
[02:37] <\sh> zul: /dev/cciss/c0d0 as BOOT_DEVICE, /dev/cciss/c0d0p3 as boot_partition
[02:37] <\sh> zul: with SuSE Enterprise Linux Version 9 it works
[02:37] <zul> dapper or edgy?
[02:37] <\sh> zul: dapper
[02:37] <zul> hmmm...lemme check something..
[02:38] <\sh> error message is : GRUB hard disk error...regarding the documentation of grub, it tells me: wrong disk geometry from the bios
[02:39] <zul> it might be a patch in grub that isnt working correctly have you tried edgy on it?
[02:40] <\sh> zul: no...I can't use edgy
[02:40] <zul> ergh..
[02:40] <zul> i dont have an dapper box to look at the source :(
[02:41] <zul> wait...never mind...gimme a sec
[02:42] <zul> grub is looking for the /dev/cciss/c%dd%d where %d and %d is controller and drive
[02:43] <zul> \sh: can you extract the rpm source for suse and look for their raid_ccis patch?
[02:44] <\sh> zul: that's what I'm doing now :)
[02:44] <zul> ah
[02:49] <\sh> zul: they don't have any patches for raid_cciss...but they have a force-lba=off patch, initaddr patch etc.
[02:50] <zul> i thought they did..
[02:51] <\sh> zul: their version is 0.94 ... Im looking into the source ;)
[02:52] <\sh> we have cciss patches to grub, and in grub-0.94 is nothing to find about cciss
[05:27] <Lutin> Hi
[05:29] <Lutin> I don't know why, but the flags given in DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS are not used when running pbuilder
[05:30] <Lutin> would you know how to fix that ?
[05:55] <Lutin> no ideas ?
[05:56] <azeem> so they are used when not running pbuilder?
[06:03] <bluefoxicy> is there any chance of getting a new wine by edgy
[06:04] <bluefoxicy> 9.9 vs 9.19 you know, although I guess debian could be lagging *looks*
[06:04] <bluefoxicy> 9.15 is in debian
[06:04] <bluefoxicy> how do I request a merge from debian?
[06:05] <azeem> did you do the merge already?
[06:06] <bluefoxicy> azeem:  no, I mean debian unstable has wine 0.9.15, Ubuntu has 0.9.9, and 0.9.19 is out.  How do I request the package from Debian Unstable be merged into Edgy universe, if possible?
[06:06] <bluefoxicy> (which seems to be what most of the changelogs for stuff I'm getting say-- "sync from debian unstable" or "merged from debian unstable" or whatnot)
[06:06] <azeem> bluefoxicy: what do you mean, "request"?
[06:06] <azeem> this is a developer channel, I assume you want to do the work yourself
[06:07] <bluefoxicy> azeem:  Well.. I'm not ubuntu's wine maintainer, and somebody's doing it, I figured somebody else was in charge of it o_o
[06:07] <azeem> bluefoxicy: you should check what changes in the Ubuntu package are still needed and how to merge them
[06:07] <bluefoxicy> okay... is there a way to do that?
[06:07] <azeem> if somebody is already in charge, requesting it does not make sense
[06:08] <bluefoxicy> wow, it looks like nobody is in charge of it :)
[06:08] <bluefoxicy> all the changelog entries are from different people
[06:09] <azeem> MOTU is in charge
[06:11] <bluefoxicy> well I'll have to look at it later
[06:11] <bluefoxicy> I have to get ready to go take the security+
[06:12] <bluefoxicy> so maybe when I get back.
[06:15] <bddebian> Heya gang
[06:16] <Lutin> azeem: actually the flags are not used whether I use pbuilder or not
[06:17] <azeem> Lutin: paste your debian/rules to a pastebin
[06:17] <Lutin> ok
[06:18] <lfittl> hi bddebian
[06:18] <bddebian> Heya lfittl
[06:20] <Lutin> azeem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20776
[06:22] <azeem> Lutin: try putting that below the include directives
[06:22] <Lutin> azeem; trying right now
[06:24] <Lutin> azeem, right, that works
[06:24] <Lutin> thanks alot
[06:25] <azeem> cheers
[06:31] <azeem> bddebian: you mean I'm late for the beer hall? *g*
[06:32] <bddebian> Heh
[06:34] <LaserJock> morning guys
[06:34] <bddebian> Heya LaserJock
[06:34] <bddebian> azeem: I know someone in Debian is working on bkchem but do you have any interest in looking at what I put on REVU?
[06:35] <asimon> Wow, lintian not only detected that the FSF address in my copyright file was obsolete and gave me the new address, it even detected a spelling error in the description. Very cool. :-)
[06:35] <bddebian> heh
[06:40] <LaserJock> hmm, I can't figure out why X won't show up in edgy
[06:40] <LaserJock> anybody seen where X just doesn't show up?
[06:40] <bddebian> I have a box where it seems to have whacked the h and v refresh so I get a monitor error with no display :-)
[06:41] <LaserJock> that's the thing
[06:41] <LaserJock> I haven't been able to find an error
[06:41] <LaserJock> it just drops me to a tty
[06:41] <bddebian> Well I was getting that for a while before the i810 driver got fixed
[06:44] <LaserJock> well, this is on an nvidia card
[06:54] <azeem> bddebian: I'm off to the beer hall now :)
[06:54] <azeem> Debian birthday party
[06:54] <bddebian> azeem: Enjoy
[06:54] <bddebian> Thanks for the response on bkchem btw ;-P
[06:55] <azeem> bddebian: well, Daniel packaged it
[06:55] <azeem> bddebian: what was your motivation to package it?
[06:55] <bddebian> I didn't know someone had already done it and LaserJock mentioned he would like it
[06:56] <azeem> ok
[06:57] <LaserJock> doh, blame it on me
[06:58] <LaserJock> I said *I* was going to package it
[06:58] <LaserJock> that's what you get for stealing other people's packages ;-)
[06:58] <bddebian> Heh
[06:59] <LaserJock> you still get like 10 times more MOTU work done than me so...
[06:59] <azeem> I'm off now for real, laters
[07:00] <bddebian> Later azeem
[09:15] <zul> what are those icons in forums called again?
[09:48] <phanatic> good evening
[10:02] <chanakya> Hi, I want to join MOTu/Games team , tell me how i can help
[10:03] <crimsun> what's your LP username?
[10:04] <chanakya> crimsun, gauravtechie
[10:07] <chanakya> crimsun, ???
[10:07] <crimsun> chanakya: have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/Games ?
[10:09] <chanakya> crimsun, yep, Would like to help in packaging , But can`t have access to IRC at workplace
[10:09] <chanakya> crimsun, would love if we have a mailing list , it`s easier to follow
[10:09] <lfittl> hey phanatic, found some time to look at bzr-wmt? :)
[10:10] <chanakya> crimsun, top of all would like to know whom do i approach for help ?
[10:10] <phanatic> lfittl: not yet :( i was hunting laptops all day
[10:11] <lfittl> phanatic: k, just ping me when you found time, would be interested in your feedback ;)
[10:11] <phanatic> lfittl: sure :)
[10:13] <crimsun> chanakya: any of the MOTU listed at the top of that page
[10:14] <chanakya> crimsun, thanks
[10:16] <chanakya> crimsun, My request to Join Motu-games at Launchpad has not yet been answered
[10:17] <crimsun> chanakya: it will be when the admins have free time
[10:17] <chanakya> crimsun, Lathiat is the Owner
[10:18] <chanakya> crimsun, ok
[10:18] <crimsun> since the vast majority of us are volunteers with real non-Canonical-paid jobs, it behooves us to be patient :)
[10:22] <chanakya> crimsun, :)
[10:24] <chanakya> Cya all
[11:53] <ajmitch> morning
[11:53] <bddebian> Heya ajmitch
[11:53] <lfittl> morning ajmitch
[11:53] <zul> eveninig
[11:54] <LaserJock> hi ajmitch et al.
[11:55] <zul> hey lj
[11:55] <bddebian> Heya LaserJock, lfittl, zul :-)
[11:56] <LaserJock> and that's what seperates the scientists from the the common folk ;-)
[11:56] <LaserJock> j/k
[11:57] <ajmitch> harsh
[11:57] <zul> that scientists make smartass jokes ;)
[11:57] <bddebian> Later folks
[11:57] <LaserJock> piled higher and deeper
[11:57] <zul> hehe
[11:58] <LaserJock> pin-headed dope
[11:58] <LaserJock> I've heard them all
[11:58] <ajmitch> I've heard the first one