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Cr4sh5farious: I remind you that my laptop has no internet what so ever...so im on a different comp12:09
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JazonSeicherlBoB: write it all down, exactly what you did and how you did it and contribute it to the wiki man12:10
farousCr4sh5: you asked how to compile the ndiswrapper12:10
SeicherlBoBJazon: sure. good idea12:10
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mikkiand i thought i did install it in adept12:10
farousi told you it is already there all you need is sudo modprobe ndiswrapper12:10
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Jazonthen i can follow it when i do mine :P12:10
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farousCr4sh5: just take care of spell mistakes12:11
Cr4sh5farious: nothing happens when I do that...it just pulls up the next line12:11
farousCr4sh5: then it worked perfectly it is supposed to do that12:11
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reddwolfhello12:11
farousCr4sh5: to make the command automatically loaded12:11
farousCr4sh5: do the following, ksu kate /etc/modules12:12
farousCr4sh5: add ndiswrapper to the end of the list12:12
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Gh0st75is Keep what i should be using to make backups of Kubuntu?12:12
jon_new tower and power supply =)12:12
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anssi_now it installed java i installed it from the konsole...hope it works12:12
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farousCr4sh5: all you need now is follow the help pages on ndiswrapper. You need the ndiswrapper-utils package installed + you need the .inf file of your card12:13
reddwolfi'm looking for a little bit of help i'm trying to play mp3s  on my linux but none of the music players support it12:13
reddwolfcan anyone jug gest anything12:13
reddwolf*suggest12:14
Cr4sh5farious: how do i get permission to add ndiswrapper to the end of the list12:14
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farousCr4sh5: if you used ksu kate /etc/modules12:14
farousyou would be asked for your passwd and already have permission12:15
Cr4sh5bash: ksu: command not found12:15
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faroushmm12:15
jottkdesu ;)12:15
farousanyone is it kde12:15
farousok got it12:15
faroususe jott command12:15
waspius_anyone know why my trash does not show when it is full??12:15
farousjott: using fluxbox here :)12:16
waspius_anyone?12:16
jottfarous: no problem ;) just say sudo next time it's wm independent ;)12:17
farousjott: not recommend for gui appl12:17
farousi only use sudo nano or sudo vi here12:17
Cr4sh5farious: okay I added ndiswrapper to the end of the list12:17
reddwolfi'm looking for a little bit of help i'm trying to play mp3s  on my linux but none of the music players support it12:17
farousCr4sh5: great do you have the .inf file for your card12:17
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Cr4sh5farous: I dont know what that is where can I get it?12:18
anssi_another thing...what command for installing flashplayer12:18
jottfarous: you could also do xhost +local:root and use su ;)12:18
farousjott: and start a flam war on ubuntu :)12:19
jotthaha ;)12:19
Cr4sh5farious: whats teh Inf?12:19
Idsa12:20
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reddwolfi'm looking for a little bit of help i'm trying to play mp3s  on my linux but none of the music players support itor how i can get my dvd to work12:20
farousCr4sh5: wait looking for a link for you12:20
Cr4sh5thanks12:20
farousCr4sh5: i thought you already have that as you were installing ndiswrapper12:20
anssi_sudo apt-get install flash.plugin ...am i correct?12:20
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jottanssi_: flashplugin-nonfree12:21
Cr4sh5farious: well...I want wireless and someone told me to get ndiswrapper12:21
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farous!ndiswrapper12:21
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:21
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anssi_package not found?????12:21
farouseasier then looking into my bookmarks :)12:21
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jott!flash12:21
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:21
anssi_i cant get flash12:22
anssi_but i could get java..strange12:22
JazonCr4sh5: i also suggested www.linuxant.com    it is point and click...12:22
farousCr4sh5: can you see your card on this list https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:22
reddwolfok what does linus support if it does not supoort mp3 or wav files12:23
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jottanssi_: you have to enable multiverse repository...12:23
Gh0st75reddwolf: it supports those formats, just not by default12:23
farousCr4sh5: and here is the page on ndiswrapper https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%2912:23
anssi_jett...i have it enabled12:23
Cr4sh5farous: nope.12:24
anssi_jott..sorry12:24
reddwolfoh ok12:24
farousCr4sh5: i sent you the page on ndiswrapper look it up have the remaning steps and the steps we already covered12:24
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anssi_thats strange12:24
Gh0st75ubotu got any guides on using Keep?12:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about got any guides on using Keep? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:24
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farous!keep12:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about keep - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:25
farous!backup12:25
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi12:25
reddwolfis there a program i can get for linux to change from those formates to awhat linux does suport12:25
obf213any idea why code in c works on windows but not in linux.12:25
farousobf213: install build-essential package12:26
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obf213ok12:26
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link_36pCan vlc save network streams?12:26
aliasfredlink_36p: yes12:26
obf213farous i have that packet12:26
chabreddwolf: install gstreamer12:26
anssi_what about the flash12:26
Gh0st75heh, lots of links for Ubuntu programs, but not many for Kubuntu proggies yet12:26
reddwolfwere is that at12:27
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anssi_cant install i have multiverse enabled12:27
obf213farous kdeveloper makes me open a hello world template, which runs, then ihave to clear it and type in my code which never works but the same code works on windows c programmers12:27
farousobf213: and gcc won't work with you12:27
jottanssi_: did you apt-get update ?12:27
JazonCr4sh5: look at your priv msg12:27
obf213farous installed, let me shwo you the erro rmesage12:27
anssi_jott..yheah12:28
Nickenyfikenis the sudo system in Kubuntu bugged? Some programs require me to start from run... as root user. If i dont it loads for a while after the prompt for password and nothing more happens12:28
anssi_yeah12:28
chabreddwolf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats12:28
chabjust do what it says there12:28
reddwolfthanks12:28
jottanssi_: so apt-cache search flashplugin returns nothing?12:29
farousgtg now take care obf213 hope you figure out your prob :)12:29
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anssi_no12:30
reddwolfok12:30
link_36paliasfred: Do you save it by doing Open Network Stream > Stream Output > File12:31
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aliasfredlink_36p: i dont remember how exactly but i already did it, what you suggest seems goo12:32
aliasfredd12:32
anssi_blaaah im getting bored about these broplems with java nad flash12:32
anssi_problems sorry12:33
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StrudelNinja_anyone know how to install the new filters from http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=40122 into krita?12:34
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obf213!libraries12:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libraries - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:36
anssi_help me!!!12:36
obf213!c12:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about c - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:37
obf213!programming12:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about programming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:37
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anssi_i really would like to get flash for my browser12:37
anssi_flashplugin12:38
SeicherlBoBJazon, jott: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo12:38
anssi_!flashplugin12:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flashplugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:38
plugswhat does BREAK (upgrade) mean?12:38
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anssi_!aargh12:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aargh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:39
anssi_lol12:39
nagyvHello! Is there someone who is using the 3.5.4 kde? I would like to use kopete 0.12 to be able to voicechat with others, but on the http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Kopete+Jabber+Jingle site there are some dependencies and config options specified. Can I fulfill them if installing via http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php ?12:39
Cr4sh5farous: okay I was following i made a dir in home called repos and then I CD to that directory and and did sudo dpkg -i ndiswrapper-utils_1.1-4ubuntu2_i386.deb and if gives me errors12:40
JazonSeicherlBoB: thx 4 the plug... :P12:40
Jazoncool - well done m812:40
anssi_anyone who can help me about my problems with flash12:40
anssi_???12:40
Jazonanssi_: state your problem12:40
SeicherlBoBJazon: sure mate. thanks. gotta go now drink a beer! CHEERS!12:40
Cr4sh5okay I was following i made a dir in home called repos and then I CD to that directory and and did sudo dpkg -i ndiswrapper-utils_1.1-4ubuntu2_i386.deb and if gives me errors12:41
JazonSeicherlBoB: i will join you!12:41
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anssi_i have multiverse enabled but it wont let me install flashplugin nonfree12:41
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anssi_what should i do?12:42
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larson9999anssi_: get java working in konqueror?12:42
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nagyvAnyone who is voicechatting useing kopete 0.12?12:44
anssi_nothing works12:45
obf213no12:45
larson9999nagyv: i'm getting ready to try that and webcam on my son's pc to see if he can use that to chat with his grandma in thailand instead of windows12:45
obf213any c programmers on here12:46
anssi_i installed java...dont work still...i hate this kubuntu system12:46
obf213i need get libraries like genlib and stuff, plus i have a feelign that linux require different syntax12:46
nagyvlarson9999: what do you mean getting ready? (sorry, my english) could you use it or you will try it in the near future?12:46
obf213anssi, how does java not work12:46
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larson9999nagyv: i'll probably try this weekend12:46
larson9999anssi_: what do you mean "won't let you install?"12:47
nagyvlarson9999: would you like to go through my questions now?12:47
larson9999anssi_: what's the message you get?12:47
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anssi_it says flashplugin nonfree is not available12:47
larson9999nagyv: not for sake since i haven't tried it yet12:48
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anssi_or not found...sorry12:49
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nagyvlarson9999: actually I would like to know only 2 things: 1. how to know wheather the precompiled package is comfigured with --enable-jingle; 2. how to find out the necessary packages listed as dependencies? the link:  http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Kopete+Jabber+Jingle12:49
larson9999anssi_: are you still set on using konqueror instead of firefox?12:49
anssi_can i download it from somewhere and install it otherwise12:49
anssi_yeah12:49
rambo3new to kubuntu here , how do i install launch bar menu theme ?12:49
mikkihow do i open .rar files12:50
anssi_dont have firefox12:50
rambo3unrar12:50
nagyvanssi_: unrar, but first you should install it12:50
larson9999anssi_: i've never used them in konqueror.12:50
anssi_oh sorry i downloaded firefox12:50
larson9999anssi_: if you REALLY want i could try to install in konqueror.12:51
anssi_how do i install it12:51
larson9999anssi_: firefox?12:51
anssi_no you dont have to tell me how do i install firefox12:51
larson9999you probably have it already.  type firefox and see12:51
mikkii installed something caled unrar-free12:51
mikkiis that right?12:51
larson9999anssi_: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox12:51
anssi_i have a file firefox-1.5.tar.gz12:52
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anssi_what do i do now12:52
jujimufuhey, I downloaded the sources for autoconf (because it doesn't exist in any repo), and although the ./configure finishes normally, when I type "make" it says "command not found"12:52
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rambo3anssi learn to use synaptic12:52
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larson9999anssi_: if you want me to help just do what i say.  when you get more experience, you can do otherwise.  just my advice of course12:53
rambo3apt-get install make12:53
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rambo3!build-esential12:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about build-esential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:53
anssi_synaptic???? ...i have adept12:53
larson9999anssi_: just open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox"12:53
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jujimufuwhy the fuck would kubuntu not have make alreayd installed ;(12:53
jottanssi_: adept sucks...12:53
jujimufuit's just one executable, ffs.12:54
obf213anssi: adept is the same thing12:54
anssi_so now its loading firefox12:54
larson9999jujimufu: most distros don't have the bulid stuff installed unless you tell it to.  in my experience anyway12:54
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mikkiis it unrar-free i should install to get .rar files to work???12:54
rambo3!rar12:54
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free12:54
Riddelljujimufu: we don't have space for development tools on the CD.  and mind your language12:54
jujimufuok, sorry :(12:55
jottlarson9999: gentoo without build stuff would be funny ;)12:55
jujimufulol12:55
jujimufu:)12:55
mikki!info unrar-free12:55
anssi_but kubuntu dont have synaptic12:55
ubotuunrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB12:55
jujimufujott: without emerge either :)12:55
larson9999jott: i was going to use gentoo but then i figured i'd have less to compile if i used lfs12:55
jottjujimufu: true ;)12:55
rambo3haha funny or i dont know what i am talking about funny12:55
jujimufularson9999: lol :D12:55
mikkiThe utility unrar is not in your PATH., what does that mean?12:56
larson9999anssi_: so you got firefox installed now?12:56
jujimufularson9999: they say Linus started making linux because gentoo was too hard for him to install...12:56
anssi_22 seconds and then it installs firefox12:56
anssi_sorry yes i have12:56
rambo3echo $PATH12:56
larson9999anssi_: you said you are coming from windows. you didn't use firefox or mozilla in windows?12:56
anssi_or no i dont12:56
anssi_no12:57
jottlarson9999: opera rocks all os ;)12:57
jujimufuwell12:57
jujimufujott: doubt that12:57
larson9999jott: opera is ok, too.12:57
jujimufujott: I still prefer rock n roll12:57
jujimufu:)12:57
jujimufuI like the Book of Mozilla12:57
anssi_it dont show anywhere that ive got firefox now12:57
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larson9999anssi_: do what this says: http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/faq#plugins12:58
jujimufuanssi_: in the K menu (the K in the panel), Internet -> firefox12:58
jujimufuit should be there12:58
mikkiThe utility unrar is not in your PATH., what does that mean? i installed unrar12:58
jujimufuand if it's not, try running "firefox" from a konsole12:58
anssi_no its not there12:58
larson9999anssi_: if it isn't there, either try firefox or mozilla-firefox from a konsole12:58
rambo3mikki it means its no in "short cut" or know usual path12:58
anssi_now it opened it12:59
mikkiis there some way to fix that?12:59
jottjujimufu: i like elinks in 256 color mode ;)12:59
larson9999anssi_: do what this says: http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/faq#plugins and then check out this site: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/12:59
larson9999pick out the things you think you'd like01:00
anssi_why dont it show on the K menu?01:00
larson9999anssi_: sometimes it takes a bit for things to show in the k-menu.  it should be under internet -> web browsers01:01
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anssi_nah01:01
larson9999anssi_: you might even need to log out and back in.  i've used kde in many distros and the start menu hardly ever work the way you'd think01:01
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mikkiwhen i install unrar where does it eend up?01:02
larson9999anssi_: if you installed from that tar file it might not have created a menu item01:02
rambo3mikki i  dont remember now , you can alwas locate unrar i  use it from there or ask somone else about how to add path to $PATH01:03
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larson9999anssi_: here is a ubuntu specific plugin site http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/distronotes/ubuntu-x86.html01:04
link_36pAnyone know how to save netowrk streams?01:04
anssi_no i did just what you said larson01:04
anssi_okay just a moment i log out and back in01:04
larson9999anssi_: ok.  like i said, it may take a bit for it to show up01:04
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kbrooksHi all.01:05
mikkisomeone else how do i add path to PATH?01:05
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rambo3kbfx is for a newer kde or is it in kubuntu too?01:06
jottmikki: edit /etc/environment ..01:06
anssi_yeah that worked now it shows on my  K menu01:06
jotttemporary you can use    export PATH=$PATH:thepathyouwantoadd01:06
kbrooksmikki: export PATH=directory:$PATH - You will need to put this in /etc/environment.01:06
kbrooksjott: Wait.01:06
larson9999anssi_: the kde start menu definitely has issues.  something people will tell me otherwise.  usually when i tell them the things that don't work they end up saying stuff like, "well, i don't use it anyway."01:07
kbrooksmikki: In a terminal, type "kdesu kate /etc/environment"01:07
jujimufuI do ./autogen.sh (according to this site: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building) and I get this error:01:07
jujimufuconfigure.ac:28: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_DISABLE_STATIC01:07
jujimufu      If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.01:07
jujimufu      See the Autoconf documentation.01:07
jujimufuconfigure.ac:29: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL01:07
jujimufuautoreconf: /usr/local/bin/autoconf failed with exit status: 101:07
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rambo3there is some command after editing /etc/environment to update it all01:07
mikkihmm i have no idea what u are saying01:07
anssi_i like the looks of kde01:08
larson9999anssi_: ok, now check out this ubuntu specific plugin site http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/distronotes/ubuntu-x86.html01:08
mikkilets start with step 101:08
kbrooksmikki: step 1. open a terminal.01:08
jottjujimufu: check you are using the correct version of autoconf that is needed..01:08
kbrooksI forgot how, I'm not in Kubuntu at the moment.01:09
mikkiDONE01:09
StrudelNinja_anyone know how to install filters in krita?01:09
mikkii need step 2:S01:09
kbrooksmikki: now, type kdesu kate /etc/environment01:09
ubuntukbrooks: you're in what?01:09
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rambo3step 2 would be to find where unrar is01:09
kbrooksubuntu: What your nickname says.01:09
rambo3use find or updatefb  and locate01:09
kbrooksrambo3: Don't confuse mikki.01:10
anssi_okay then what01:10
ubuntuI thought ubuntu and kubuntu were the same01:10
ubuntuit's mostly gnome vs kde01:10
kbrooksubuntu: Yeah.01:10
mikkihehe no dont do that01:10
rambo3kbrooks: so are you just going to guess where unrar is located or type random dirs01:10
ubuntuha, right, so it isn't the same apps01:11
kbrooksrambo3: he didnt ask about unrar.01:11
mikkii got kate now01:11
kbrooksrambo3: Find out who asked about unrar.01:11
anssi_is x86 same as if i have a 64 bit system?01:12
rambo3<mikki> The utility unrar is not in your PATH., what does that mean? i installed unrar01:12
larson9999anssi_: actually, you might just want to look at the regular linux plugin doc.  the ubuntu specific stuff looks like it might be outdated.  at any rate, the mozilla plugin sites give you what you want.01:12
kbrooksmikki: scroll down, using the down arrow key or page down, or the scroll bars, to the end of the text file. You may need to use the down arrow key  to get to the end of it.01:12
ubuntudoes anyone find that ubuntu is slower than other distribs?01:13
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mikkiits 4 lines01:13
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anssi_how do i uninstall konqueror?01:14
kbrooksanssi_: Why do you want to?01:14
mikkibut yes im trying to open a .rar file and i get this message: The utility unrar is not in your PATH01:14
kbrooksanssi_: You shouldn't.01:14
chabkbrooks: what kind of answer is that?01:14
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ubuntusomeone asking how to remove konqueror in kubuntu01:15
kbrookschab: in KDE, Konqueror is used a lot.01:15
ubuntuthat's quite fun01:15
anssi_why should i have two browsers?01:15
rambo3kbrooks: now you say sorry i just jumped in the middle of conversation and i dont know what you are  talking about01:15
ubuntuanssi_: it isn't only a browser01:15
kbrookschab: including by KDE itself.01:15
anssi_oh yeah it shows my folders etc...01:15
jujimufuanssi_: in windows, you had Explorer and Internet Explorer: one to view your files, and one to surf the internet01:15
chabkbrooks: err, you don't have to tell me, i just asked you what kind of answer your "why do you want to?" is..01:16
anssi_sorry i forgot01:16
mikkikbrooks: now back to me01:16
kbrooksrambo3: ok ok, i apoologise01:17
chabkbrooks: but since you'd like to educate me, what does konqueror do except file-browser/webbrowser?01:17
kbrooksmikki: turning you over to rambo301:17
mikkihehe01:17
kbrookschab: fish:/,  man:/01:17
kbrooksgopher:/01:17
mikkii dont think he wants me01:17
larson9999anssi_: it just seems that most like konqueror as a file manager and another 'real' browser for the web.  now the konqueror people will tell you that's not fair but i think it is01:18
kbrooksmikki: you don't think who wants you? me?01:18
chabkbrooks: okay, let me put it this way, what does konqueror do that absolutely without any doubt requires konqueror to be installed?01:18
larson9999anssi_: you can open konqueror in 'filemanager' mode01:18
kbrookschab: I gave you several schemes. :-)01:18
mikkirambo3:01:18
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kbrookschab: But um, I'm not sure.01:19
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rambo3what now ,01:19
chabkbrooks: yes, yes you did. now tell me, can these schemes not be accomplished by other, possibly better, software?01:19
anssi_it said in one finnish magazine that linux is not for people who dont know anything about computers and not for old ladies01:19
anssi_i think im an old lady then01:19
larson9999anssi_: well, my converted and didn't need any help from me :)01:20
rambo3mikki: is /usr/bin/  in your /etc/environment01:20
larson9999anssi_: well, my aunt converted and didn't need any help from me :)01:20
mikkiyes01:20
anssi_shes smart then01:20
kbrooksanssi_: Thats a myth01:20
kbrooksanssi_: Linux can be used by people like kids.01:21
rambo3mikki: in terminal /usr/bin/unrar -h01:21
anssi_i still continue using windows and keep this as an intresting pasttime activity01:21
larson9999take windows: how many old ladies do you think can install it?01:21
chabwhy do people believe the crap shitty magazines write?01:21
kbrooksanssi_: I'm a kid, and I installed Linux when i was 14.01:21
mikkibut i search for unrar and found on file and thatss in /usr/share/doc/bash/completion-contrib/01:21
chabthey should stick to their stories about which queen did which king..01:22
kbrookschab: swearing isnt appreciated here01:22
chabkbrooks: you'll survive01:22
anssi_im no kid anymore im 31 and started using pcs when i was 2901:22
kbrookschab: Irrevelant01:22
kbrooksanssi_: I said "like".01:22
mikkirambo3: /usr/bin/unrar: No such file or directory01:23
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anssi_so its no wonder if i dont know how everything works01:23
rambo3ook mikki typ sudo updatedb && locate unrar01:23
kbrookschab: The ubuntu coc specifically  disallows swearing.01:23
kbrookschab: "Be respectful. The Ubuntu community and its members treat one another with respect."01:24
Gh0st75probably easier to get the initial grasp of linux if you haven't been using windows for a long time, so kids have an advantage, they don't have to un-learn windows habits like us older folks making the switch01:24
jottunrar will be installed in /usr/bin when you install it from the repositories.....01:24
chabkbrooks: i don't remember agreeing to the coc.. and how could you name it coc?01:24
kbrookschab: code of conduct01:24
chabkbrooks: i know what coc stands for01:25
chabkbrooks: i was referring to the similarity to cock01:25
mikkidone that, what now01:25
anssi_i got a driver for my soundcard for linux it was a zip file but i dont know how to install it01:25
kbrookschab: Don't swear please.01:25
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chabkbrooks: how old are you?01:25
mikki /usr/share/doc/unrar-free01:25
chabkbrooks: besides, cock isn't a swear word ;)01:25
kbrookschab: I refuse to give that out.01:25
Gh0st75a person can learn to be respectful of others at any age01:25
anssi_coc is corrosion of conformity...rock rock01:26
Gh0st75lol, haven't heard that band in ages01:26
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anssi_good band01:26
kbrooksI'm not a operator. I am asking you to abide to it, chab.01:26
larson9999anssi_: are you an anti linux plant?01:26
chabkbrooks: even if you were, what's the difference01:26
rambo3mikki if that the only answer you got then its not installed01:27
anssi_no im not anti linux...if i was would i ask for advice or try to use it01:27
mikkii got some more01:27
rambo3any bin in there01:27
rambo3sbin01:27
mikkiall files is in that folder01:27
mikki /usr/bin/unrar-free and this01:28
anssi_but i think its better to explore the possibilities of linux before i start to use it fulltime01:28
mikki/var/lib/dpkg/info/unrar-free.md5sums01:28
mikki/var/lib/dpkg/info/unrar-free.list01:28
mikkiand that01:28
kbrooksmikki: Try that.01:28
kbrooksunrar-free01:28
chabunrar-free is a waste of code.. get unrar for linux from winrars site and replace it..01:28
mikkiadd that to the envoire..01:29
kbrooksmikki: No.01:29
D4rklylol01:29
Gh0st75i'm enjoying linux a great deal, only keeping my windows partition for Neverwinter Nights 2, since i hear it won't have a linux port like the first game did01:29
kbrooksmikki: It's in your PATH.01:29
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anssi_sorry if you dont get what i say think my english is a bit rusty cause i havent used it in ages01:29
kbrooksmikki: (/usr/bin/ )01:29
kbrooksmikki: Run unrar-free in a terminal.01:30
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Talwinhey01:31
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Talwin<- new user01:31
D4rklyhas anyone got vmware working ?01:31
Talwinim sure you get a million in here..01:31
anssi_how can i use messenger in linux if all my friends have windows and i dont01:31
chabunrar-free will fail on most archives..especiall split-archives01:31
Talwinquick question regarding rar files.01:31
kbrooksTalwin: Welcome to the world of Kubuntu.01:31
kbrooksTalwin: Ask.01:31
Talwinthanks :)01:31
anssi_thats why i use windows01:31
Talwinhow do i extract them.01:31
chabanssi_: by using a messenger that supports the messenger protocol of whatever your friends use01:32
Talwini tried tar -xj01:32
D4rklyanssi_ KOPETE01:32
Talwinbut it didnt work.01:32
kbrooksanssi_: Use kopete.01:32
kbrooksTalwin: Get unrar.01:32
mikkimikki@mikki:/usr/share/doc/unrar-free$ ls01:32
mikkiAUTHORS  changelog.Debian.gz  copyright  README.Debian  todo01:32
chabkopete..bah.. use gaim01:32
anssi_so kopete and messenger work together?01:32
Talwindo i have to download it or is it already available via apt-get?01:32
anssi_try to decide what i should use01:32
kbrooksanssi_: no. it's a client to the various things.01:32
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kbrooksTalwin: Avoid the terminal. Use adept: search for unrar.01:33
rambo3mikki: i am guessing the unrar-free is just addon for ark or arhivehandler in ubuntu ,01:33
kbrooksrambo3: no, its not.01:33
chabkbrooks: why tell him to avoid the terminal??01:33
Gh0st75kopete is like trillian for windows.....it's one interface and you have your contacts from aim/msn/yahoo/etc all in one contact list01:33
kbrooksrambo3: it's a complete cli.01:33
Gh0st75it's great01:33
anssi_so if someone is in messenger how can i contact him or her from linux01:33
kbrooksanssi_: Use kopete.01:33
anssi_like in messenger01:33
anssi_okay01:33
jujimufukbrooks: gaim is also user friendly01:34
rambo3okay then ,01:34
kbrooksanssi_: Kopete is in Kubuntu. Just start it from the menu.01:34
Gh0st75i've used both, just a matter of preference for visual appeal01:34
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jottkbrooks: adept is so broken i would not recommend to use it..01:34
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kbrooksjujimufu: This is Kubuntu, not Ubuntu.01:34
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jujimufukbrooks: yeah, but it is downloadable :|01:35
kbrooksjott: It worked for me.01:35
Talwinsorry im being dumb here01:35
Talwini opened adept and typed unrar01:35
jottkbrooks: try to install anything that needs a user confirmation ;)01:35
Talwinbut it shows nothing01:35
nagyvhello! could someone help me to compile a program (kopete) from the kde svn repository? As I see $AUTOCONF is not set in the cvs.sh script, but I am not pretty good in hacking.01:35
jottkbrooks: also see topic "known problems" ;)01:35
jujimufuok, so I try to install Mesa by running "make linux-dri-x86" and this is what I get: http://pastebin.ca/13544601:35
kbrooksjujimufu: I know, but he might not want to get GTK+.01:35
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jujimufukbrooks: oh, well. GTK will anyways be needed for GIMP, and if he's interested in finding something similar to photoshop, he will install gimp anyway. And generally, gtk is useful for lots of stuff.01:36
jujimufukbrooks: btw, tell him about easyubuntu and automatix.01:36
chabas if a noob even knew what gtk is..01:36
jujimufukbrooks: those set most of the things in my PC with just a few clicks, no adept and stuff.01:36
D4rklyanyone interested on getting vmware running join #kubuntu_vmware :)01:36
jottjujimufu: install Xorg devel stuff..01:36
jujimufuchab: shush you. n00bs don't like to be called noobs...01:36
kbrooksjujimufu: You tell him.01:36
jujimufuoh, ok01:36
chabjujimufu: too bad01:36
anssi_oh yeah it works01:36
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rambo3error: DirectColor  some missing libs ? jujimufu01:36
jujimufulike what?01:36
jujimufujott: where od I find those? are there in any repos?01:37
Talwinperhaps im doing something dumb?01:37
Talwinive opened adept.01:37
rambo3i dont know why dont you ask people who made it or use apt-build if package is repos01:37
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Talwinin the search box typed unrar.01:37
Talwinand get nothing.01:37
jujimufuanssi_: there are two programs which will help you install many things (like codecs for videos and plugins for firefox etc)01:37
D4rklyalso could someone who has already got vmware running also join #kubuntu_vmware and lend a hand lol :)01:37
anssi_now some zanou has me in his or hers list of contacts..what the heck01:37
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jujimufuanssi_: and you won't have to go to console and all01:37
StrudelNinja_ok this is a real idiot question...how do I open the layer/channel/path window in gimp01:37
jujimufuanssi_: are you interested?01:37
jordo23I just installed the latest Kubuntu and am trying to apt-get superkaramba but it keeps stating that the package isn't found....any ideas?01:38
anssi_yeah juji....01:38
jujimufuStrudelNinja_: open a new file, then, in the window that just opened go DIalogues and choose "Layers"01:38
jottjujimufu: xorg-dev xserver-xorg-dev01:38
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rambo31repos > jordo2301:38
rambo3!repos > jordo2301:38
StrudelNinja_ahah01:39
Nriktell me some DC client01:39
StrudelNinja_thanks01:39
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kbrooksnalioth: ping. mikki had a error message  - it said that unrar ws not on his PATH. But he has /usr/binunrar-free01:39
jordo23rambo3:  I know the packages are divided into repositories, but it states that it is available for dapper....01:39
jujimufuanssi_: open a console and just paste the commands as I give them to you, by pressing Ctrl+Insert (Ctr+V won't work on a console)01:39
Nriklike Valknut01:39
kbrooksnalioth: /usr/bin/unrar-nonfree01:39
jujimufu!easyubuntu01:40
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.01:40
jujimufu!automatix01:40
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.01:40
naliothmikki: in your console, type 'which unrar' please01:40
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kbrooksnalioth: No, he has /usr/bin/unrar-nonfree01:40
kbrooksnalioth: I meant /usr/bin/unrar-free01:41
jujimufuanssi_: wget http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/files/easyubuntu-3.022.tar.gz01:41
kbrooksnalioth: Sorry, this gets a bit confusing! :-)01:41
francolqHello. This is the first time I boot my amd64 kubuntu dapper. I enabled universe and multiverse but still cant find webmin... some help?01:41
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nagyvthere is a .pl (perl?) script that searches for autoconf, it traverses the PATH variable, and although whereis sais that autoconf is in there, it doesn't find it. Could someone help me in this problem?01:41
naliothkbrooks: mikki please join me in #ubuntu-classroom01:42
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anssi_juji then what01:44
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jordo23How do you install superkaramba for the latest version of kubuntu?01:47
kbrooksTalwin: ping01:47
TheHighChildnewb question: When adding an alias to your .bashrc is it possible to read that without starting a new session?01:47
jordo23I can't find it in Adept, and can't find it through Apt01:47
kbrooksTheHighChild: . ~/.bashrc01:47
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Talwinhey01:47
TheHighChildjordo23: give me a se and I will take a look01:47
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jordo23thx01:47
Talwini cant find that unrar in the adept list01:47
kbrooksTalwin: Well01:47
kbrooks!repo01:47
Talwini tried downloading it.01:47
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource01:47
TheHighChildkbrooks: Not sure what you're trying to tell me01:47
Talwingot it as a tgz file.01:48
Talwinextracted it.01:48
kbrooksTheHighChild: Type ". ~/.bashrc" in a terminal01:48
JucatoI think the Superkaramba in the repos is the latest?01:48
Talwinbut i dont know how to run it.01:48
Talwintried sudo apt-get install unrar again but still no change01:48
jordo23Can't find Superkaramba01:48
kbrooksTalwin: Read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:49
Jucatojordo23: Superkaramba is in the universe repository. Is it enabled?01:49
TheHighChildnice, thanks kbrooks, didn't see that period to start. appreciate it01:49
TheHighChildJucato: he wants the latest, which the repos don't have01:49
anssi_jujimufu!!!01:49
jordo23jucato: do I edit sources.list or can I enable it through adept?01:49
JucatoTheHighChild: isn't the one in the repos already the latest?01:49
JucatoThe latest Superkaramba version is 0.39, released March 2006, according to the website01:50
Jucatojordo23: you can do it in Adept01:50
D4rklyif anyone knows how to get vmware working please join #kubuntu_vmware :)01:51
TheHighChildI thought the repos had .3701:51
JucatoTheHighChild: mine is 0.40 @_@01:51
Jucatobut I'm not sure if that's because of KDE 3.5.4, or that's the stock version in the repos01:51
Jucatolet me check...01:51
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TheHighChildJucato: Their site shows the latest as 0.3901:52
JucatoTheHighChild: yeah, I know. but when I right-click on Superkaramba and choose "About Superkaramba", it shows 0.4001:52
jordo23jucato: I enabled the universe lines....what next?01:53
Jucatojordo23: click on Apply, then on Fetch Updates01:53
Jucatojordo23: after it's done fetching updates, you'll be able to find Superkaramba01:53
Talwingreat kbrooks!01:54
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Talwingot the file01:54
Talwinwhats the command line for it?01:54
Talwinor another website?01:54
jordo23jucato: exactly which line should I enable?01:54
reddwolfcan some one help me figure something out01:54
jordo23jucato: a few of them state Universe01:54
Jucatojordo23: the one with "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe" where xx is for your local server (us.,uk., etc)01:55
nagyvthere is a .pl (perl?) script that searches for autoconf, it traverses the PATH variable, and although whereis sais that autoconf is in there, it doesn't find it. Could someone help me in this problem?01:55
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nagyvI would like to complie kopete from the svn. there is a .pl (perl?) script that searches for autoconf, it traverses the PATH variable, and although whereis sais that autoconf is in there, it doesn't find it. Could someone help me in this problem?01:56
Talwinnm got it!01:57
Talwin:P01:57
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jordo23jucato: thanks! Got it01:58
Jucatosure, no problem!01:58
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Talwinthanks for your help!01:59
Talwinespecially kbrooks01:59
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reddwolf_<reddwolf> i'm on a web sight with instructions but i can't make heads or tale of it02:01
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anssi_good night or goodbye everybody..depending where you are : )02:02
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Jucatoehehe! 8 AM here :-D02:03
reddwolf_<jucato> wow02:03
anssi_its 3.03 in here02:03
reddwolf_8:5 pm here02:03
reddwolf_8:0802:03
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Jucato12 hour difference, eh reddwolf_? @_@02:04
reddwolf_yep02:04
anssi_i can go to sleep you cant lol02:04
fendermanhi everybody :)02:04
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reddwolf_lol02:04
Jucatolol! just woke up. no plans of going back to sleep02:04
reddwolf_jucato would you be able to help me out02:04
Jucatoreddwolf_: I'll try02:05
Jucatowhat is it?02:05
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anssi_its early morning in finland so its time to sleep now02:05
Jucatoanssi_: kool! sweet dreams! :-D02:05
kbrooks;p;/02:05
reddwolf_i'm trying to get xine multimediaplayer installed and i can make heads or tails of the instruction page02:05
kbrookslol*02:05
anssi_thanks have a good day jucato02:05
reddwolf_night anssi02:06
fendermani have a problem with mplayer on dapper, can anybody help me? please?02:06
Jucatoreddwolf_: could you provide the link for that instruction page?02:06
anssi_and reddwolf too02:06
anssi_bye all02:06
reddwolf_sure02:06
Jucatobye!02:06
reddwolf_http://xinehq.de/index.php/faq#BUILDING02:06
kbrooksreddwolf_: Ubuntu repos have xine.02:07
Jucatoreddwolf_: yeah, any reason you'd want to compile your own version?02:07
reddwolf_oh02:07
Jucatothose are instructions for compiling xine02:07
Jucato!info xine-ui02:07
ubotuxine-ui: the xine video player, user interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1567 kB, installed size 3512 kB02:07
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reddwolf_all i want to do is get my dvds and music to play on here02:07
Jucatoreddwolf_: what kind of music? MP3s?02:08
reddwolf_mp3 and wmas02:08
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Jucatowell, you don't need to install xine for that :-D02:08
Jucatobut you do need to install some codecs02:08
reddwolf_i went to this one page and folloed some things and then it said something about xine02:08
reddwolf_how do i do that02:09
fendermani have a problem with mplayer on dapper, can anybody help me? please?02:09
reddwolf_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  i tryed the stuff on this page ( plus i'm new on using linux02:10
Jucatoreddwolf_: give me a few secs to pull up some links :-D02:11
reddwolf_ok02:11
reddwolf_i hope i can under stand them with me being a first time user02:11
fendermanmplayer won't play anything on Kubuntu since i upgraded to Dapper, only a small window appears for less than a second and then it goes away02:11
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kbrooks!EASYUBUNTU02:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about EASYUBUNTU - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:11
Jucato!easyubuntu02:12
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.02:12
fendermanplease, help me02:12
kbrooksreddwolf: try easyubuntu02:12
Jucatoeheheh! why do I keep on forgetting easyubuntu and automatix...02:12
Jucatoreddwolf_: you can try using easyubuntu or automatix (take your pic) to help you install codecs, flash, etc.02:12
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Jucato!automatix02:12
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.02:12
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reddwolf_does that work with kubuntu02:13
Jucatohmm... why doesn't ubotu have a link for Automatix?02:13
reddwolf_thats what i'm running02:13
Jucatoreddwolf_: yes it (should) work02:13
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Jucatoreddwolf_: which one are you running? easyubuntu or automatix?02:13
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Jucatohey actinic! howdy!02:14
actinicjey man, what's up?02:15
fendermanplease help me, i really need mplayer and i can't use it since i upgraded to Dapper02:15
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reddwolf_easyubuntu i'm trying this one02:15
Jucatohow's the folding@home doing? (still couldn't understand the concept... need to do some more research)02:15
actinici'm a bit disappointed, Jucato.  I know there's a few crunching as we speak, but no points other than mine so far :(02:16
actinici've improved the FAQ02:16
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fendermanno help???02:16
Jucatofenderman: sorry, I'm not familiar with mplayer... :-(02:16
Jucatoactinic: kool! I'm gonna check it out02:17
actinichttp://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7868.002:17
fendermanthanks jucato02:17
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actinic!mplayer02:17
ubotumplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer02:17
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.02:17
Jucatoactinic: ah krap! you didn't catch claydoh. He was here a while ago...02:17
fendermanthanks a  lot actinic and ubotu02:17
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actinicJucato, was he looking for me?02:18
actinicor a mod be he?02:18
Jucatonah. but weren't you looking for forum mods?02:19
Jucatoyep. he's a mod02:19
actinicok02:19
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actinicfenderman, good luck02:19
fendermanthanks a lot for your help02:19
fendermando you think i should compile from scratch???02:19
actinici wouldn't02:20
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actinicunless you're a gentoo kinda guy :)02:20
Jucatoehehe!02:20
fendermanno no no02:20
actinicbrb02:20
fendermanthanks a lot, byebye :)02:20
Jucatothere's nothing wrong from compiling, though. but just not everything :-D02:20
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footAnyone have ANY ideas why kubuntu would change my resolution to the lowst setting every so often after reboot? and it won't let me change it thru the visual interface.02:24
kbrooksfoot: no, but!02:24
kbrooks!fixres02:24
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:24
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west-enhmm need help02:30
west-encan i get it here?02:30
LeeJunFanargh, trying to burn DVD's fruitlessly - mkisofs logs report it gets to about 5-6% and then claims it's done.02:30
west-eni need help with midi, someone that can help me?02:30
Jucatoerrr.. time for (late) breakfast02:31
Jucatooopss... wrong channel02:31
Jucato @#_@02:31
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footubotu: thanks but it chocked on it02:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thanks but it chocked on it - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:32
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Talwinback again!02:32
Talwinok this time its the graphics drivers.02:32
TalwinI have a radeon 9600xt02:32
west-encan someone help me?02:33
footyup for a short time. seems that it does that to me every once in a while, then a reboot fixes it02:33
Talwini have been on adept and installed xorg drivers02:33
Talwinwell i say installed.02:33
Talwinapt-get install xorg blah blah02:33
footTalwin: lol02:33
Talwinwhen i go into system setting it still says i have these drivers that dont work02:33
Talwin:o02:33
actinic!midi02:34
ubotuTrouble playing midi files? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo02:34
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Talwinpoint and laugh at me, not a problem..02:34
west-enyes i need help with midi02:34
Talwinjust point me to where i can learn to fix it ;P02:34
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west-enit says that i dont have /dev/sequencer02:34
west-enand i dont have that either02:34
Talwinanyone got anyideas?02:34
actinicwest-en, could be a missing codec.  you might want easyubuntu to help you install them02:35
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actinic!easyubuntu02:35
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.02:35
west-enok i install that02:35
shadeofgreyhey02:35
west-enthanks for support!02:35
actinicno problem02:35
shadeofgreydoes anytbiody here know if there are programs fdoir ubuntu or kubuntu that handle address books in celkl phone format?02:36
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shadeofgreyi have 2,700 entries in my smartphone that i need to transsfer to the new phone im getting tomorrow02:36
shadeofgrey'and i was jusyt wondering if theres anapplication that can handle transfering the numbers from one to the other if i have usb cables for both?02:37
reddwolfi tyred the easyubunto but i still can't play mp302:37
reddwolfis there another way02:37
shadeofgreyreddwolf: use        beep mediua playuer02:37
shadeofgreyapt-get install beep-media-player02:37
shadeofgreyit looks just like winamp for windows02:38
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shadeofgreyand works way better than n thart really shitty xmms player02:38
yuriylapreddwolf: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs didn't work?02:38
yuriylapreddwolf: ^ to play mp3's in amarok and kaffeine02:38
yuriylap!mp302:38
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:38
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reddwolfi'm new to the kubunto  so i'm not sure what these programs are02:39
yuriylapreddwolf: what have you tried?02:39
reddwolfeasyubunto02:39
reddwolfand i have been in and out of here most of my night trying diffrent things02:40
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jordo23Is there a RDP/VNC default program in the most recent version of Kubuntu?02:40
gekko`reddwolf: is liblame0 installed?02:40
reddwolfi have no idea02:40
shadeofgreycan kubuntu handle SLI graphics configuratiojns?02:41
reddwolfhow can i find that out02:41
yuriylapreddwolf: amarok is the music player that comes with kubuntu. it will play mp3's after you follow the directions on the RestrictedFormats page linked above02:41
reddwolfi tryed that one02:41
ErikTheRedshadeofgrey: yes they can02:41
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gekko`reddwolf: sudo apt-get install -s liblame002:41
ErikTheRedyou just have to add a line in the device section of your xorg.conf02:42
yuriylapreddwolf: Kmenu > system > adept    will open up the package manager where you can search for and install packages and see what's installed02:42
jordo23Anyone know how I get my clock off of military time?02:42
ErikTheRedit's: Option "SLI" "true"02:42
jordo23I can't find the option.02:42
west-ennope still got problem02:42
west-eni executed easyubuntu and checked midi, but it still doesen't work02:43
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yuriylapjordo23: right click on the clock, go to date & time format, date & time tab, change the time format to the second one02:43
west-enhe is saying that /dev/sequencer may be opened02:43
yuriylapjordo23: haven't tried that before. rather cryptic option i have to agree02:44
nagyvI would like to complie kopete from the svn. there is a .pl (perl?) script that searches for autoconf, it traverses the PATH variable, and although whereis sais that autoconf is in there, it doesn't find it. Could someone help me in this problem?02:44
yuriylapalthough it does say time format02:44
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Cr4sh5hey can someone explain how I can install ndiswrapper step by step Im a newb.02:44
Cr4sh5I have all the files02:45
jordo23yuriylap: It is still on military time...02:45
timsdfd02:45
west-eni doesen't have any /dev/sequencer02:45
reddwolfsudo apt-get is not in my list for sudo02:45
yuriylapjordo23: you set the time format to the "pH:MM:SS AMPM" option?02:45
timhello can any 1 hear me?02:45
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Cr4sh5tim: I hear you02:45
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reddwolfi have sudo installed and a sudo-idap not intalled02:46
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timNoobish question, what is this messeging service used for?02:46
jordo23yuriylap: Yeah....that one....changed it to that option under Time Format (second one down)02:46
timI am new to linux and don't know what all the apps are for02:47
gekko`reddwolf: use adept to find the package liblame002:47
lukas_brauche hilfe bei rarlinux installation... kann mir jemand die ntigen befehle verraten???02:47
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timGerman?02:47
Jucatotim: are you asking what Konversation is for? or what the #kubuntu channel is for?02:47
timwhat is Konversation used for?02:47
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yuriylapjordo23: that ought to do it... :(02:47
gekko`tim: for germans there's #kubuntu-de #ubuntu-de02:48
Jucatotim: Konversation is an IRC (Internet Relay Chat) client02:48
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yuriylap!irc02:48
ubotuirc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines02:48
yuriylaptim: ^02:48
Jucatojordo23: I think this should be the contents of the time format: "pH:MM:SS AMPM" ??02:48
timahh thanks for the info02:48
jordo23yuriylap: Yeah....on the config menu it shows the correct time, but on the clock it still is military02:48
yuriylapjordo23: did you click ok?02:48
west-ennobody that can help med with midi?02:48
Jucatooh, you have to logout to make it take effect, I think02:48
jordo23jucato: yeah...I see what you mean.....I changed it to that....but it's still on military time02:49
jordo23YES I CLICKED OK!! LAFF02:49
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reddwolffound it and it was not intalled but i'm geting02:49
reddwolfit02:49
Jucatojordo23: try logging out and back in02:49
jordo23jucato: Yeah...your right....02:49
pete_Hi, I just installed kubuntu 6.06 on an AMD64 laptop, and I can't get the cpu frequency scaling to work so I'm pegged at 800mhz.02:49
yuriylapjordo23: sorry, just checking.  try logging out and logging back in as jucato said02:49
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jordo23jucato: Think I briefly saw something like that, but it stated log out and back in to change language02:50
jordo23jucato: Is there a default VNC/RDP program built into Kubuntu?02:50
Jucatoerr... I wouldn't know. I don't even know what VNC is... :-D02:50
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jordo23jucato: You know....Remote desktop....ubuntu has it02:50
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ErikTheRedjordo2302:51
JucatoYeah I think Kubuntu has one02:51
ErikTheRedthere is an RDP client built in02:51
reddwolfwhat does liblame0 do02:51
jordo23Erik: do you know the name?02:51
ErikTheRedit's called krdp02:51
ErikTheRedit's under the internet menu02:51
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Jucatonot Krfb?02:51
timok02:51
ErikTheRederr02:51
ErikTheRedkrfb is right02:52
ErikTheRedsry02:52
gekko`reddwolf: mp3 support02:52
rensweeSomeone mind revealing the secret to getting kubuntu to "finding" libjava.so?02:52
yuriylapit's krdc to connect, krfb to make a server02:52
Jucatoi was just guessing :-D02:52
ErikTheRederr shit02:52
ErikTheRedkrdc02:52
reddwolfkrfb jucato and kubuntu does have it02:52
jordo23found it....thanks02:52
Jucato ok.. I'm not really sure... I don't know what krfb and krdc do. ehehe! I'm an absolute noob in those areas :-D02:53
ErikTheRedi dunno about krfb, but krdc allows you to remotely control a windows machine02:53
reddwolfstill can't do mp3's or dvds02:53
yuriylaprenswee: i'm not sure what you mean, but try "sudo update-alternatives --config java"02:53
rensweeBeen there done that.02:53
Jucatoreddwolf: you used EasyUbuntu?02:54
reddwolfyes and nothing02:54
Jucatothat's strange...02:54
reddwolfwhat about automatrix02:54
Jucatocan you check if the package "libxine-extracodecs" is installed?02:54
reddwolfwas not installed02:55
reddwolfbut i'm getting it02:55
Jucatoreddwolf: that's the one you need02:55
reddwolfok02:55
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reddwolfYES it finaly works02:57
Jucatoehehe! congratulations :-D02:57
reddwolfthanks what about dvds02:57
JucatoI'm not really sure,but that should be covered also by the same codec. Encrypted DVD's are a different matter, I think02:57
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Jucatojust check the page for RestrictedFormats if there are special instructions02:58
reddwolfi had done that the first time02:58
Jucatoreddwolf: btw, did EasyUbuntu also install w32codecs? You need it for WMA and RealMedia02:58
reddwolfnot sure02:58
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Jucatoyou can check in Adept if it's installed02:59
Jucatoif it's not, don't bother looking for it. it's not available in the repositories02:59
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reddwolfoh03:00
Jucatois it installed?03:00
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reddwolfi had an error on easyubunto03:01
Jucatoooh....03:01
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tobias__hello all :)03:04
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CheeseBurgerManHowdy, tobias__03:04
tobias__I was wondering how I get that icon that makes it possible for me to change the volume level in kubuntu?03:04
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CheeseBurgerMantobias__: In the system tray?03:04
tobias__its not there for some reason03:05
CheeseBurgerMantobias__: Run kmix03:05
tobias__ok:)03:05
tobias__thanx03:05
tobias__it might be how my friend set up my kubuntu03:05
tobias__it looks very nice03:05
tobias__but no sound icon hehe03:05
tobias__great stuff03:05
tobias__now i can play my game without waking my friends03:06
CheeseBurgerManhehe, headphones are also good for that. ;)03:06
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Cr4sh5hey03:06
CheeseBurgerManHello03:06
tobias__hehe:)03:06
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tobias__im still awed by all the helpfull people in this channel, i will never go back to windows.. I think this is my... 8th or 9th kubuntu day03:07
tobias__heya cr4sh5:)03:07
Cr4sh5I need help I succesfully installed ndiswrapper-utils and some other files that I had to following a guide, and I added my wireless card .inf and i am suppose to go into gnome...whats gnome?03:07
CheeseBurgerMantobias__: Heh, I went Windows free for about a month, but then I wanted to play games without tweaking stuff. :)03:07
CheeseBurgerManCr4sh5: The default desktop environment in Ubuntu. If you're using Kubuntu (since this is #kubuntu, I'll assume you are), just log into KDE.03:08
tobias__cheeseburgerman: I heard that there was this thing called vine that makes everything very simple?03:08
tobias__I havent tried it though03:08
CheeseBurgerMantobias__: It's wine, and it works OK for some things, but not everything.03:08
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tobias__aha03:08
Cr4sh5CheeseBurgerMan: katapult?03:09
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tobias__cheeseburgerman: I hope they develop it so it will rock! do u know what games one can play in it? directx?03:09
CheeseBurgerManCr4sh5: Eh? Katapult is a program launcher. KDE is the whole desktop environment.03:10
rensweeSomeone mind revealing the secret to getting kubuntu to "find" libjava.so?03:10
Cr4sh5CheeseBurgerMan: okay...so how do I know if my card is working?03:10
tobias__renswee: tried adept?03:10
CheeseBurgerMantobias__: Cr4sh5 run 'ndiswrapper -l' to see if it has detected everything03:10
Cr4sh5CheeseBurgerMan:k03:11
rensweeTo begin with, yes.03:11
tobias__im just happy i can play my java blood bowl game :)03:11
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Cr4sh5CheeseBurgerMan: Installed ndis drivers: lsbcmnds INVALID DRIVER!03:12
tobias__renswee: Im a noob just thought it might be in there somewhere:)03:12
rensweetobias__, it is.  It just doesn't work.03:12
tobias__renswee: strange03:13
Cr4sh5CheeseBurgerMan: This is the tutorial I followed for my card (same card) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=564503:13
nrdbI am having a problem start up X, when I do a 'startx' I get the the error message "xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom" can anyone help please?03:13
CheeseBurgerManCr4sh5: OK, something's not working, (obviously) Did you install the .inf rather than the .sys?03:13
CheeseBurgerManCr4sh5: OK, let me have a look at it.03:13
tobias__renswee: does it complete the install?03:13
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Cr4sh5CheeseBurgerMan: akay thanks03:13
rensweeNo, because it "can't find" libjava.so.03:13
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tobias__renswee: are u trying to install java on your machine I take it?03:14
rensweeYep.03:14
CheeseBurgerManCr4sh5: This is something I rarely recommend, but if you haven't, try rebooting.03:14
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tobias__renswee: cus I managed to install on mine so I might actually be helpfull I think hehe03:15
rensweeTried it Sun's way which has never failed me before and has the same exact complaint.03:15
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tobias__renswee: maybe not the same java thing u need03:15
Cr4sh5CheeseBurgerMan:I did03:15
Cr4sh5CheeseBurgerMan:let me try again?03:15
tobias__renswee: I found something called "libjavascript-perl" and "libjavascript-rpc-perl" when i searched for libjava are these maybe the things u neeD?03:16
CheeseBurgerManCr4sh5: Nah, that won't help anything. Uninstall the driver & start over. I don't see anything wrong with the guide. (although I do have limited experience with ndiswrapper)03:16
rensweetobias__, nope.  libjava.so is part of java.03:17
tobias__renswee: ah, there are some installation packages for java in the adept program03:17
tobias__renswee: there you need sunjavajre?03:18
tobias__renswee: version 503:18
Cr4sh5CheeseBurgerMan: uninstall the lsbcmnds driver?03:18
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yokobrhi03:18
yokobrplease03:18
yokobri cant get to 1024x76803:19
CheeseBurgerManCr4sh5: yeah.03:19
rensweetobias__, I know.  They fail to install because they can't find it.  Installing from Sun's installation package doesn't help either because Kubuntu seems incapable of finding libjava.so.03:19
tobias__renswee: its the runtime enviroment for java version 5 its what i installed to play my blood bowl game03:19
tobias__ah!03:19
tobias__I know!03:19
tobias__renswee: same problem I got03:19
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yokobronly 1280x 85403:19
tobias__renswee: fixed it by installing manually03:19
CheeseBurgerManCr4sh5: It's definatly not going to work, if it's installed properly it should say something like 'bcmwl5          driver present, hardware present'03:19
tobias__renswee: at least i think its the same thing03:19
nrdbI am having a problem start up X, when I do a 'startx' I get the the error message "xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom" can anyone help please?03:19
yokobrpleasee03:19
rensweetobias__, tried it.03:19
yokobri cant get to 1024x768 with nvidia drive03:20
yokobrdriver*03:20
tobias__renswee: its not the have to accept licence agreement problem?03:20
tobias__renswee: ok..03:20
Cr4sh5CheeseBurgerMan: okay so what do you want me to uninstall? ndiswrapper?03:20
yokobrpleasee ='(03:20
tobias__renswee: then it goes beyong my meager skills im afraid03:20
tobias__beyond03:20
tobias__even03:20
CheeseBurgerManCr4sh5: No, just the driver.03:20
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CheeseBurgerManCr4sh5: 'ndiwrapper -e <driver>'03:21
tobias__renswee: ask google if no one here knows :)03:21
Cr4sh5CheeseBurgerMan: okay and how abouts do I do that? =P03:21
CheeseBurgerManCr4sh5: Already answered. :P03:21
Cr4sh5CheeseBurger::P haha thanks03:21
rensweetobias__, why do you think I'm here.  Google failed.03:21
tobias__why cant renswee install java? anyone know?03:21
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yokobrhi guys03:22
yokobri have a little problem03:22
tobias__hey yokobr03:22
yokobrsince ive installed nvidia drivers, i cant get to 1024x76803:23
yokobronly 1280x 85403:23
yokobri need to know the file to mannualy change resolution03:23
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yokobrany shots?03:24
Cr4sh5CheeseBurgerMan: okay so I go sudo ndiswrapper -i lsvcmnds.inf03:25
yokobrits really hard to be on 640x48003:25
rensweeyokobr: /etc/X11/xorg.conf to manually edit.03:25
yokobrthanx man!!03:25
yokobra looooooooot03:25
Cr4sh5lsbcmnds.inf*03:25
actinicwhere's the kubuntu bug report site?03:25
CheeseBurgerManCr4sh5: Yup03:25
yokobri was on kubuntu, then ive changed to suse, and now im back!03:25
Cr4sh5CheeseBurgerMan: ok cross your fingers rebooting03:25
yokobr'cause i know that kubuntu is the best!03:25
actinicbetter yet, who's a member of launchpad that's on this board?03:26
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Jucatoactinic: you can register in Launchpad yourself. no requirements except for a working e-mail addy03:27
actinicJucato, thanks.  Where's the official kubuntu bug report url?03:28
Jucatoactinic: that's the big question. :-D03:28
actiniclol, u mean there ISN'T one?03:29
JucatoI think Kubuntu bugs can be filed in http://kde.bugs.org03:29
actinichow do u know if it's a kubuntu or KDE issue?03:29
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JucatoAlthough I think you can also file it in Launchpad.net03:29
Erich-KWhen i try to use ./configure it gives me the error "qt was not found, Please set QTDIR first (/usr/lib/qt3?) or try scons -h for more options" so then i type "QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3/" and it seems to work, but i still get the error message. Any ideas?03:29
JucatoI'm no bug reporting expert... I'm traumatized by it :-D03:29
yokobri cant change on there..03:30
yokobri will try to download and install again03:30
Cr4sh5CheeseBurgerMan: it didnt work, it says invalid driver again03:30
Cr4sh5CheeseBurgerMan: is it possible to just use Wireless Assistant03:30
CheeseBurgerManCr4sh5: Only if you're card is already detected.03:30
Cr4sh5CheeseBurgerMan: mhmm...and thats not happening okay let me see if I can find some other drivers03:31
CheeseBurgerManCr4sh5: Yeah, they may be corrupted somehow. If you have a  Windows CD with the drivers on it, try taking them from there. Or you can search on http://ndiswrapper.sf.net/03:32
yokobri really love kubuntu03:33
yokobrs203:33
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Erich-KWhen i try to use ./configure it gives me the error "qt was not found, Please set QTDIR first (/usr/lib/qt3?) or try scons -h for more options" so then i type "QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3/" and it seems to work, but i still get the error message. Any ideas?03:35
tobias__got to sleep now, gnite all! :)03:35
Erich-KHow do i set the directory?03:35
arepie!flash03:36
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:36
Erich-K!flash03:37
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:37
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Erich-K!qt03:37
ubotuqt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.03:37
Erich-K!qtdir03:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about qtdir - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:37
maltaethironhey, can anyone tell me the difference between a binary and source download03:40
Jucatomaltaethiron: binary: something that's executable/installable directly. source: you have to compile it first03:41
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maltaethironso binary is best for a noob then03:42
Jucatomaltaethiron: yep03:42
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cl187ok03:45
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cl187fucking a03:45
cl187got wireless working03:45
cl187about damn time lol03:45
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yokobrhi, please , i cant intall nvidia drivers03:46
cl187thanks for all the help last night03:46
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glickhowdy03:46
yokobrasks for "binutils"03:46
cl187now what are the other pack installers that i can use03:46
Jucatoyokobr: I think you need to have "build-essential" installed?03:47
glickscuse me in the kubuntu installer, you cant choose reiserfs for your filesystem?03:47
yokobrerrr03:47
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yokobrwhat is that?03:47
Jucatoyokobr: it installs every that's needed to compile stuff. it's a package03:48
Jucato!b-e03:48
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)03:48
Jucato!info build-essential03:48
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB03:48
yokobrok, thanx03:48
glickanyone? can you choose reiserfs for your filesystem during kubuntu install?03:48
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Jucatoglick: yes, I don't think the installer on the Desktop CD has that option.03:49
Jucatoglick: I think the Alternate Install CD does. I'm not absolutely sure, though03:49
glickwhy on earth not? reiserfs is like 100 times faster and better then ext303:49
Jucatoglick: I dunno03:50
m_tadeuhi...does anyone know anything about modems? I have a usb modem and its not being detected as one03:50
Erich-KWhere are the KDE includes located?03:50
Jucatoprobably because ext3 is the default filesystem supported by the Linux kernel?03:50
Cr4sh5m_tadeu: is it only USB? I would suggest using the ethernet cords03:51
cl187now what are the other pack installers that i can use03:51
cl187instead of Adep03:51
m_tadeuCr4sh5: usb only unfortunately03:51
cl187instead of Adept*03:51
Cr4sh5m_tadeu: hmmm, Sorry I don't know how I can help you :(03:51
Jucatocl187: Synaptic? KPackage? or you can use apt-get or aptitude in the command line? (btw, they're called package managers)03:52
m_tadeuits an analog modem, btw03:52
yokobrplease03:52
yokobrjust another thing03:52
cl187heh03:53
tdm1hey guys, it's me again, and I have more problems.  I can't get my wireless to work unless I load my old kernel.  I still can't get my graphics drivers running.  My displays are still messed up.  And a laundry list of other problems.  Anyone out there who can help me? :)03:53
cl187thanks Jucato03:53
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holsteintdm1: you upgraded from the default 386 kernel to 686?03:54
cl187Adept wont load for some reason03:54
maltaethiron!info stepmania03:54
ubotuPackage stepmania does not exist in dapper03:54
maltaethiron!stepmania03:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about stepmania - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:54
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tdm1holstein, no, I just opened my repos and did an adept upgrade03:55
Jucatocl187: can you try starting Adept from the command line, and check what error messages you get? "kdesu adept" (without the quotes)03:55
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holsteintdmg: ok, 'cause I lost wifi and stuff by upgrading to 68603:56
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holsteinthe j-restricted was missing03:56
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tdmgwell, who should I talk to about all my other problems?03:56
holsteintdmg: can you check if your kernel packages also have the restricted equiv?03:56
tdmgwhere do I go?03:56
tdmgbecause I've actually retrograded so far......03:57
tdmgI don't know what restricted equiv is, sorry :-/03:57
StrudelNinja_hey amarok closed on me so I reopened it. an error popped up and then it closed again and now I can't reopen it at all03:57
tdmgI'm still a beginner03:57
thedcmHOWCOME THE UBUNTUS HAVE THE SUCH BLACK PEOPLE NAME??03:57
maltaethirontdmg: w00t for beginners!03:57
Cr4sh5thedcm: do you have a problem with black people?03:58
reddwolfjucato about that error i got for the easyunbutu03:58
thedcmYES THEY SMELL VERY ODDLY03:58
tdmg......yeah......woot.......03:58
maltaethironheheh03:58
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thedcmWANCE A BLAKC PEOPLE BEAT ME UP CUZ I WAS WHITE03:58
CheeseBurgerManthedcm: Uh, do you understand how caps lock work?03:58
Cr4sh5thedcm: maybe you should go...suffer with windows...03:58
thedcmyES I UNDERSTAND IT CHANGE THING03:58
holsteintdmg: i meant, a package like linux-image-2.6.x.yz, and a linux-restricted- with same number03:58
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Erich-KWhere are the kde includes located?03:58
thedcmSorry GUYS03:59
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tdmgholstein, you are loosing me even more now.......03:59
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Jucatoreddwolf: what about it?03:59
holsteintdmg: sorry. :|03:59
tdmglosing*03:59
reddwolf<jucato> i got that error message again and this time i copied03:59
reddwolfif you want to see03:59
thedcmso can i get kubuntu 2 chang name 2 blue cap linux03:59
holsteintdmg: are you currently on your problematic machine?03:59
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Jucatoreddwolf: wait, is it quite long?04:00
Jucatobetter use pastebin if it's a multi-line error message04:00
reddwolfif i could i was going to email it to you04:00
tdmgholstein, I'm on my desktop right now04:00
Jucato!pastebin04:00
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:00
thedcm!pastebin04:00
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:00
thedcmWHAT MATTER OF SORCERY IS THIS04:00
tdmgmy "problem" laptop is in front of me04:00
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thedcmBOTS ARE ILLEGAL ON #KUBUNTU04:00
CheeseBurgerManthedcm: Yeah, sure...just get the source & change everything from 'Kubuntu' to 'Blue cap Linux'04:00
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thedcmtHANKS04:00
maltaethironthedcm: shush, youre hurting my ears04:01
thedcmCheeseBurgerMan: i shal forever honor ur memory04:01
CheeseBurgerManthedcm: Please, turn off caps lock. It's disrupting.04:01
holsteintdmg: use adept (your package manager) and do a search for linux-restricted04:01
thedcmi alredy did gjeez04:01
tdmgokay04:01
thedcmwat r u retartd or sumtin04:01
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holsteinand another one for linux-image04:01
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holsteinthe version number should match.04:01
soulriderhi04:01
Erich-KWhere are the kde includes located?04:01
Jucatohi soulrider04:01
cl187wow this is going to take some learning lol04:01
holsteinwhat model of laptop?04:01
reddwolfi put it in the pastbin04:01
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cl187does ubuntu work with usb hard drives04:02
holsteinthey are often tricky to get right :(04:02
thedcmuh no04:02
cl187and can i add in ntfs suport?04:02
JucatoErich-K: I'm not absolutely sure, but it might be in kde-devel?04:02
thedcmubunut does nolt use hard drives!04:02
thedcmi trid it wance didnt recognize my hard drives!04:02
D4rklywhere can i get vmware tools ?04:02
CheeseBurgerManthedcm: It does if you actually install it.04:02
thedcmuh no CheeseBurgerMan !04:02
D4rklyand do i need them :) ?04:02
thedcmit segfaults04:02
CheeseBurgerManthedcm: Ah, that falls beyond my skills.04:03
actinicJucato, u sure http://kde.bugs.org is a valid url?04:03
thedcmr u fat CheeseBurgerMan04:03
Erich-KWhere is kde-devel?04:03
Jucatoactinic: err... man! so sorry04:03
Jucatoactinic: http://bugs.kde.org ...04:03
thedcmCheeseBurgers have much greece and fats04:03
nagyvWhere could I get an automake>=1.6.1? apt-get gives me version 1.4-p604:03
CheeseBurgerManthedcm: No, I'm not fat, and 'Greece' is a country.04:03
Cr4sh5CheeseBurgerMan:  is there anything I have to do after I install the .inf file? before I reboot?04:03
actinick thanks.  I'm thinking of downgrading to 3.5.304:03
JucatoErich-K: kde-devel is in the universe repositories04:04
tdmgholstein, I have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386 and common installed04:04
thedcmuh no i live in the america but thanx CheeseBurgerMan04:04
holsteintdmg: ok, and versions matches.04:04
CheeseBurgerManCr4sh5: Assuming that it installs properly, add 'ndiswrapper' to /etc/modules.04:04
Jucatoactinic: no luck finding the process in the forums04:04
actinicI think their current version was a step backwards04:04
holsteintdmg: that means your problem is not like I had.04:04
Jucato(that was supposed to be a question...)04:04
holsteintdmg: let me guess; video card is an ATI...04:04
reddwolf<jucato>  its in the pastebin for you to look at04:04
tdmgso, what do I do now?04:04
actinicno luck so far04:04
Jucatoactinic: I'm not 100% sure, but I think this is only a Kubuntu KDE 3.5.4 thing04:04
Jucatoactinic: there seems to be no problem with other KDE distros04:05
holsteintdmg: in the ubuntu wiki, there is some infos about various laptop model.04:05
actinicinteresting04:05
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Jucatoreddwolf: what's the URL?04:05
Jucatoreddwolf: where's the link?04:05
holsteinfor mine, I was lucky to find 2 differents pages listings how the guys tweakted their installs..04:05
tdmgholstein, they don't have mine :-/04:05
holsteintdmg: what is the model?04:05
tdmgI have a brand new Compal HGL30, so it won't be there :P04:05
reddwolfhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2083904:06
thedcm!pastebin04:06
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:06
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thedcmguys04:06
thedcmpastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:06
thedcmstart using it04:06
actinicJucato: apparantly media devices like flash drives no longer automount upon insertion04:06
yokobris there a package manager that automatically does the update?04:06
thedcmyokobr: are you stupid?04:06
Jucatothedcm are you here to help or what?04:06
thedcmyes04:07
Jucatoactinic: yeah, that's quite buggy to04:07
thedcmim helping04:07
actinici know mine doesn't any more04:07
Jucatos/to/too04:07
thedcmStrudelNinja_: reinstall amarok04:07
Jucatohow is asking "are you stupid" helping?04:07
yokobrnope04:07
thedcmJucato: im helping the world04:07
holsteintdmg: I did not knew this brand; they probably don't sell in canada04:07
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thedcmsorry you selfish prick04:07
yokobri need to know how to update my repositories under apt get04:07
yokobri dont want to download it manualy04:07
holsteintdmg: looks like a nVidia card04:07
Jucatothis is not the place to help the world. this is a Kubuntu support channel04:07
yokobryeap...04:08
holsteinprobably installable with Automatix or Easyubuntu...?04:08
yokobrim under kubuntu04:08
holsteinnot sure, I specifically choose a intel video card, since they support linux better04:08
yokobri dont have them...i will try to get one04:08
tdmgholstein, I know it's an nVidia card04:08
ching_hi04:08
tdmgbut adept won't let me download the drivers04:08
tdmgit gave me this problem last night04:09
tdmgand Dr_Willis had no clue what was up :-/04:09
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Jucatoyokobr: no package manager can automatically do updates with asking for your password04:09
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Jucatoit can, however, automatically inform you if updates are available04:09
Drenheadhas anyone had any luck converting .tivo files to be playable on Kubuntu?04:10
Jucatothen you can just click on the notification, enter you password, click on Fetch Updates, and then Apply Changes04:10
thedcmtouche Jucato04:10
holsteintdmg: well, I'm sorry, I'm not much help for this... never had to install an nvidia drivers. :(04:10
tdmgwho should I talk to?04:10
holsteintdmg: but the rest of the hardware seems ok for linux04:10
Drenheadon XP, i use directshow dump to get rid of the .tivo wrapper so it is just a regular .avi file.  I can't get DS dump to load using wine, however.04:11
reddwolf<jucato> what do you think might be my problem04:11
Jucatoreddwolf: are you trying to install both ATI and NVIDIA drivers?04:11
reddwolfnot sure04:11
Jucatoreddwolf: I'm still trying to decipher this, I'm not familiar with EasyUbuntu...04:11
reddwolfi have a on video card04:11
Cr4sh5CheeseBurgerMan: I went to the linksys webpage and got the right drivers over Live Chat so they should be perfec why do they appear as invalid?04:11
reddwolfand a another on the is not part of the main mother board04:12
CheeseBurgerManCr4sh5: To be honest, I have no idea.04:12
holsteintdmg: maybe this would help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia04:12
Jucatohm... which one are you using right now?04:12
Cr4sh5okay04:12
tdmgholstein, already tried that last night04:12
tdmgthanks though :D04:12
actinictdmg, you got an answer from Jucato so what's the prob?04:12
reddwolfthe one that is not part of the mother board04:12
reddwolfand i'm not sure what that is04:12
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tdmgactinic, everything........04:12
holsteintdmg: well... I'm done then.. :D04:12
actinictdmg, do you try doing what Jucato said?04:13
CheeseBurgerManCr4sh5: Ubotu has a link about ndiswrapper, it may help you. That's about all I can do.04:13
Jucatoerr... that's gonna be a problem...04:13
holsteintdmg: good luck anyway.. :)04:13
Jucatowhat did I say?!?! @_@04:13
Cr4sh5!ndiswrapper04:13
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:13
reddwolfgive me a few and i can cheack04:13
tdmgI didn't see what Jucato said, I'll go back.....04:13
reddwolfbut i will have to log off04:13
actinicJucato: about using Adept04:13
maltaethironhey, when in nano, when saving, i get options that say "mac format" and "dos format"....what are those?04:13
Jucatooh...04:13
holsteintdmg: going to bed now anyway. keep asking here, sure you'll get answer!04:13
reddwolfbrb04:13
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Jucatotdmg: what's the problem again with installing NVIDIA drivers?04:14
yokobrjust a last thing04:15
tdmgadept won't let me..........04:15
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actinicwhy not tdmg?04:15
GNULinuxGeekHwllo all.  For some reason Konqueror has broken and re-installing does not fix it.  S, I would like to install all of KDE 3.5.4 on my Dapper box.  Found a number of sites that have the stable version packages.  Do I have to download all of them and install one at a time?04:15
actinicbe specific04:15
yokobri need to know how to install my native language instead of english04:15
tdmgokay, I'll get you the error message again....04:15
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CheeseBurgerManGNULinuxGeek: No, look here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php04:16
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:16
thedcmlike fuck04:16
tdmgJucato, I think it might be working now..........I didn't do anything different though :-/04:16
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Jucatoreddwolf: so? how did it go?04:18
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reddwolfati radeon graphics card04:18
actinicmodel radeon?04:18
tdmgJucato, I can't seem to have nvidia-glx installed at the same time as nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig, why is that?04:18
Jucatooh, so it's ATI. it seems that you set EasyUbuntu to also install NVIDIA drivers.04:18
reddwolfnot sure on that one04:18
thedcm!defiling the dead04:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about defiling the dead - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:18
ubuntugrub error 17 who can help me04:19
reddwolfhow can i chang that04:19
reddwolf*change04:19
Jucatotdmg: it's really supposed to be like that. nvidia-glx installs its own versions of nvidia-settigns and nvidia-glx04:19
Cr4sh5who can help me getting my wireless card working04:19
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reddwolfoh04:19
yokobrhi04:19
Cr4sh5hi04:19
Jucatoreddwolf: err.. that's what I'm not familiar with... T_T04:19
tdmggreat :)04:19
reddwolfi can still use my navida one04:20
Jucatoreddwolf: but you can't install both drivers...04:20
JucatoI'm not familiar with how to use EasyUbuntu04:20
reddwolfi have the ati in cus i use a program on xp that deals with solid modleing04:20
Jucatoare there no checkboxes which allow you to choose what it installs?04:20
reddwolfyes04:20
tdmgJucato, how do I set up my computer so that it uses both me external display and my laptop screen, because right now it is only using my external monitor04:21
thedcmwhy do you need two monitors you monitor whore04:21
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reddwolfthats my problem then i was cheacking everything04:22
Jucatothedcm: I thought you were here to help?04:22
reddwolfand not reading what it was saying04:22
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Jucatotdmg: sorry, I'm not familiar with dual monitors04:23
thedcmnobody needs help on linux04:23
thedcmjeez its not like it's windows04:23
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actinici luv the trolls that show up04:23
reddwolfi only have one moniter04:24
Jucatoyou should have been here yesterday...04:24
reddwolfbut this time i'm running the easyubuntu with the nivda uncheacked04:24
Jucatoreddwolf: can you still run EasyUbuntu and uncheck those that you don't need?04:24
otaku-sanactinic: me too but it's best to just let em' live in there own world and ignore em'04:24
Jucatoyou could also uncheck the GStreamer stuff.04:24
Jucatootaku-san: except that they can be very disruptive at times...04:25
tdmgJucato, who should I speak to about dual monitors?04:25
reddwolfi'm running it right now04:25
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nixternalquit ctcp'n me please04:25
thedcmwhy04:25
Kr4t05thedcm: don't mass CTCP04:25
thedcmwhy04:25
nixternalbecause i asked nicely04:25
thedcmwhy04:25
CheeseBurgerManAm I the only one who wants to call the kops?04:26
nixternalgood bye04:26
nixternalget um imbrandon04:26
Jucatotdmg: err... try asking again??  I'm not really sure who to ask04:26
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nixternalattack04:26
Jucatoyey!!!04:26
nixternal;)04:26
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thedcmYOU NIGGERS04:26
Jucatoerr...04:26
CheeseBurgerMan!kops04:26
ubotuHelp! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak04:26
nixternalhahaha04:26
thedcmI HATE YOU SMELLY APES04:26
nixternali love you04:26
thedcmWITH YOUR DUMB LINUX04:26
tdmgcan someone help me set up my dual monitors? :D04:26
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CheeseBurgerManThanks.04:26
soulrider!jaav04:26
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nixternalthank you!04:26
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ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository04:26
Hobbseesigh.04:26
actinicman I wish I could get that delete button!04:26
Hobbseethansk nalioth04:26
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Cr4sh5*cries* this is not working04:27
reddwolfjucato sofar so good no errors04:27
Jucatothank you imbrandon and nalioth04:27
GNULinuxGeek For some reason Konqueror has broken and re-installing does not fix it.  S, I would like to install all of KDE 3.5.4 on my Dapper box.  Found a number of sites that have the stable version packages.  Do I have to download all of them and install one at a time?04:27
CheeseBurgerManGNULinuxGeek: No, look here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php04:27
JucatoGNULinuxGeek: you just need to add one of the repositories in the page that CheeseBurgerMan gave04:27
otaku-sanJucato: Do I speak to soon?  Do they who disrupt leave?04:28
actinicGNULinuxGeek, 3.5.4 is very buggy04:28
Jucatobut for some reasons, I couldn't recommend KDE 3.5.404:28
GNULinuxGeekCheese did look there and can't seem to get it loaded.  I originally load ubuntu but then added KDE.  That might be part of the problem.04:28
CheeseBurgerManGNULinuxGeek: That shouldn't make any difference.04:28
Jucatootaku-san: he was just got kicked/banned04:28
Cr4sh5Anyone here get a wireless linksys card working on Kubuntu?04:28
Hobbseeimbrandon: chanserv seems really slow today....04:28
imbrandonHobbsee: i noticed04:29
HobbseeCr4sh5: which chipset?  check with lspci04:29
Hobbseeimbrandon: right.  i've gone and banned him in most of the user channels.04:29
yokobrwhere i have to change on Xorg.conf? to change my resolution04:29
JucatoGNULinuxGeek: add one of the repositories, like the "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages...", then sudo apt-get update first04:29
CheeseBurgerManGNULinuxGeek: Did you run 'sudo apt-get update' after adding the line?04:29
otaku-sanJucato: I know..I was just seeing if it was true...ok back to Kubuntu04:29
GNULinuxGeekCheese No. will try04:29
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Jucatootaku-san: eheheh :-D04:29
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Jucatoyokobr: it wasn't automatically detected/set when you installed the drivers?04:30
Jucatoreddwolf: keeping my fingers crossed :-D04:30
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reddwolfi'm seeing errors but its still running04:30
yokobrwel...the probles is that i does not have 1024x768 o display manager...04:30
yokobrso i have to manualy change my xorg.cong04:31
yokobrconf*04:31
Phoenix92xHi, I'm running Dapper on a Latitude D610 kernel 2.6.15-26-686 and am having a madenning problem. Two applications, gam_server and kded are taking around 40% of my processor each. It fluctuates a tiny bit, but basically my system is almost unuseable. I've googled these apps some and they seem to be fairly important so I can't just get rid of them. Could somebody please help me?04:31
Jucatooh04:31
yokobrand....i cant install nvidia drivers04:31
Jucatoyokobr: how come you can't? what's wrong?04:32
yokobrbecaus i need build-essentials and i cant get it trough apt-get04:32
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Jucatolet me check for a while...04:32
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otaku-sanHey ok I've had a prob with deKorator...for a while now.  I got it and untarred it, ./configed it and it said all was ok....but when I went to "make" it b0rkz....should I nuke it and rehash from the beggining?04:32
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actinicPhoenix92x, what's your system memory?04:33
Phoenix92x1024 MB DDR204:33
Jucatoyokobr: err... my bad, you don't need build-essentials after all. which guide are you following btw?04:33
Jucatootaku-san: what do you mean by "borked"?04:33
Jucatoer... b0rkz04:33
yokobrlook this04:33
actinicPhoenix92x, how much is being used?  type 'free' without the quotes in a console04:34
yokobrtheres another site to post unless pastebin.com?04:34
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otaku-sanJucato: I mean Konsole came up with errors for days....which I though configure was there for...to stop errors.04:34
Jucatoyokobr: you can just paste the link here04:34
larson9999yeah kuickshow!04:34
yokobryeapp, but i need to know a site to paste..04:35
yokobrbecause paste bin is too slow04:35
Phoenix92xactinic: Mem:       Total: 1034524     Used: 757868     Free: 27665604:35
Jucatoyokobr: err... I wouldn't know anything else04:35
actinicPhoenix92x, hmm that's similar to mine04:35
Phoenix92xEveything's so slow I dont see what I'm typing into this box for around 10 seconds04:36
actinicPhoenix92x, u have a swap file?04:36
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Phoenix92xyes, a 2048 MB swap partition04:36
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actinicman i'm drawing a blank.  does your research suggest anything?04:36
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Phoenix92xactinic: not in particular, the machine is just about unuseable04:37
reddwolfi think i got it most of the errors were for programs like skype and some that i don't need04:37
Phoenix92xbrb, food's here,04:37
Jucatoreddwolf: ehehe! that's what you get for checking everything :-D04:37
otaku-sanJucato: do you want me to pastebin the errors?04:37
Jucatootaku-san: sure. but I'm not sure if I can absolutely help04:38
reddwolfso i ran again but only cheaked what i needed04:38
actinicPhoenix92x: sata drive per chance?04:38
otaku-sanJucato: I totally understand....I'm the same way!  Hehe04:38
GNULinuxGeekCheeseBMan:  It seems to be working, Thanks04:39
CheeseBurgerManGNULinuxGeek: You're welcome. :)04:39
otaku-sanJucato: I'll just post em' and hope maybe someone if they look at it recognize the errors04:39
Jucatosure! go for it04:39
john___hey is here someone willing to help me to install Quake3 from a bin file?04:39
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reddwolfyes i can play dvds now04:40
yokobrhere!!04:40
yokobrhttp://pastebin.ca/13562004:40
yokobrjucato?04:41
Phoenix92xactinic: yes04:41
yokobrhttp://pastebin.ca/13562004:41
Jucatolooking04:41
yokobrits my error message04:41
yokobrwhile installing nvidia04:41
reddwolfjucato i got dvd video know04:41
Jucatocool! congratulations reddwolf04:42
reddwolfwatching land of the dead04:42
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ErtainDoes anyone know of a program that can find duplicates of a certain file in a directory?04:42
Jucatoyokobr: I need the link to the guide you are following for installing NVIDIA drivers04:42
Phoenix92xactinic: it is a sata drive, ye04:43
Phoenix92x*yes04:43
yokobrhttp://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8762.html04:43
Phoenix92xgam_server uses about 5 MB of RAM04:43
Phoenix92xkded around 17MB04:43
Phoenix92xactinic: I reallllly hope you have an idea I havn't thought of =) that would cheer me up04:45
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bkudriadoes the dapper livecd include ntfsresize?  ...because i can't resize my partiton using qtparted...04:46
yokobrJucato?04:47
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Jucatoyokobr: have you tried this? http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper04:47
Jucatouse Method 1, it's much simpler than what you were trying to do04:48
actinicPhoenix92x, i've heard of some sata issues relating to high cpu use but that's all i can think of04:48
reddwolfi will catch yall later04:49
reddwolfneed some sleep04:49
Jucatoreddwolf: bye! enjoy your DVD's! :-D04:49
reddwolfi will thanks for you help04:49
Phoenix92xactinic: I see, gah though....I can barely use the machine! I want to just scream half the time04:49
otaku-sanJacato: whoa!  hehe don't do kwin --replace....I just did something pretty n00b04:50
Jucato O_o04:50
Kiongkuanyone ever tried prozilla here?04:50
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Jucatoerr. no  man pages for kwin...04:51
JucatoKiongku: ehehe you're back04:51
Kiongku!info kwin04:51
ubotukwin: the KDE window manager. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 957 kB, installed size 3200 kB04:51
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Kiongkujucato: o04:51
Kiongku*yo04:51
Jucatootaku-san: kwin --replace                 Replace already-running ICCCM2.0-compliant window manager04:51
Kiongkulol04:52
Jucatogrr... I just wish there was some way for Firefox to integrate nicely with KDE... then I probably would be using it more than Konqueror...04:52
bigbill52akdesu konqueror does not work...i can use gksudo nautilus while in kde..that works...04:52
D4rklyvmware 4tha win :)04:53
otaku-sanJacato: Hahaha thank goodness nothing major happened...just some windows popping up and down for a second like popcorn04:53
Phoenix92xactinic: any idea of who I should talk to next or what I should look into? I absolutely need to solve this04:53
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Jucatobigbill52a: try running the command in Konsole to see what error messages it spits out04:53
bigbill52asometimes it doesnt work..does anyone know why?04:53
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Jucatoa kdesu bug, I think04:53
actinicPhoenix92x, sorry no04:54
Jucatosometimes it launches immediately, sometimes it needs a second nudge04:54
otaku-sanJucato: you mean like themes?  Like you have everything the same look but Firefox looks completly different?04:54
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Jucatootaku-san: no. I mean Firefox using kio slaves and KGet04:54
otaku-sanJucato: oh...hehe...never used that...so never had to worry I guess04:55
bigbill52ait is working now..but earlier it didnt work..but check flood for an error message i see quite often04:55
Jucatoehehe04:55
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Kiongkujucato: btw.. now using prozilla.. its better and easier than i thought04:55
Phoenix92xactinic: allright, thank you.  If anyone else has any ideas as to why gam_server and kded are taking a combined total of 80 PERCENT of my processor please help ^_^04:55
yokobrdidnt worked....04:55
JucatoKiongku: cool. :-D04:55
maltaethironhey, is there any way that i can use my xbox 360 controller on kubuntu?04:56
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yokobrjucato04:56
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Jucatoyokobr: how did it not work?04:56
Kiongkujucato: .. now i want to test out the resume function O_o.. i wonder if restarting my pc will delete the files already downloaded..04:56
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yokobri dont know04:56
yokobrit say something about dependencies..04:57
yokobrlook04:57
Jucatobrb04:57
Kiongkumaltaethiron: lol u connected ur gamepad to ur pc?04:57
yokobrabout gcc304:57
david_how do i get the applications button back?04:57
kbrooksPhoenix92x: Try killing them.04:57
yokobrpearl base04:57
david_My son deleted on04:57
maltaethironyup, my usb controller from xbox36004:57
maltaethironi wanna use it as a mouse04:57
yokobrlibc604:57
Phoenix92xkbrooks: I kill them they restart in less than 2 seconds04:57
maltaethironthat'd be so tight04:57
yokobrand much more04:58
Kiongkudavid_: its vague ur qustion04:58
Kiongkumaltaethiron: sorry, i dunt have any controllers.. so i cant test it out myself04:58
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maltaethironmm04:58
maltaethiron!xbox04:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xbox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:58
david_The button up top of your screen that accesses all your programs is gone04:59
Kiongkudid u try right click on the taskbar to see?04:59
Kiongku*david04:59
Phoenix92xkbrooks: crap...ok I anaged to kill kded  but now gam_server is now taking 70-85% of the processor just by itself, and I can't manage to kill gam_server no matter what I do04:59
david_ill try that h05:00
Kiongkuyokobr: type that sudo apt-get -i build-essential05:00
kbrooksPhoenix92x: How did you kill gam_server (or try?)05:00
Phoenix92xsudo killall gam_server05:01
otaku-sanok n00b question...how do I make Konversation transparent?  I've looked all over and can't find anything05:01
kbrooksPhoenix92x: Not enough - TRY killall -HUP gam_server05:01
Phoenix92xkills it for under a second05:02
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Phoenix92xit comes back taking 70-85%05:02
Kiongkuotaku-san: why make it transparent?05:02
david_I looked i don't see anything05:02
kbrooksPhoenix92x: interrupting (with the default, -INT) didnt work05:02
Kiongkudavid_: ok ok.. tell me exactly what is gone?05:02
kbrooksPhoenix92x: ok, try killall -KILL gam_server05:02
actinicor killall -9 gam_server05:02
Phoenix92xkbrooks: doesnt do a thing05:03
kbrooksPhoenix92x: sudo05:03
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Phoenix92xkbrooks: was already doing it with sudo05:03
Kiongkudavid_: is it the k menu?05:03
otaku-sanKiongku: hehe why not?  It's not windoze so I'm not forced to tke what's given to me...I have control...except the transparency of Konverstion05:03
kbrooksPhoenix92x: ok, another program is starting it.05:03
Phoenix92xkbrooks: even doing it as root via sudo su doesnt do a thing05:03
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Kiongkuotaku-san: ah lol05:03
kbrooksPhoenix92x: ^^^^^05:04
yokobrive tryied, but lots of dependencies are required05:04
Phoenix92xkbrooks: should I start killing programs and seeing the effect then?05:04
actinicPhoenix92x, go to system settings --> system services05:04
david_The word on the top of the screen that says "Applications" that when you click on it it brings down a menu of all your applications05:04
kbrooksPhoenix92x: No05:04
Kiongkuyokobr: did u enable all ur repositories and then update?05:04
otaku-sandavid_: so your Kmenu button was deleted by your son?05:04
kbrooksPhoenix92x: follow  actinic;s instruction05:04
Kiongkuotaku-san: same thought here05:04
actinicPhoenix92x, then click 'administrator mode'05:04
david_yes05:05
actinichighlight the offending service and click the stop button'05:05
otaku-sanKiongku: in the deletion of buttons or transparency?05:05
Phoenix92xactinc: doing it, but it will take a while, the system is extremely sow05:05
Phoenix92x*slow05:05
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Kiongkuotaku-san: button goners05:05
kbrooksPhoenix92x: how much ram, and whats the cpu speed?05:06
Phoenix92x1024 MB05:06
otaku-sandavid_: ok all is not lost...it's just a matter of finding it...I mean it's easy to delete it so it'll be easy to recover05:06
Phoenix92xCentrino 2GHz05:06
Kiongkudavid_: right click task bar > add application to panel > Add this menu. May be that will be good?05:06
kbrooksPhoenix92x: modern enough05:06
Phoenix92xquite =)05:06
Kiongkudavid_: ehrm better. Add applet and look for k menu05:07
Kiongkuright click task bad > add applet > look for k menu05:07
kbrooksPhoenix92x: Why do you want gam_server gone?05:07
Phoenix92xkbrooks, actinic: its not listed05:07
otaku-sandavid_: Yeah try that....I'll experiment with my Kmenu and see if I can delete and recover it05:07
Phoenix92xkbrooks: its taking 70-85 % of my processor and rendering my system nearly unuseable05:07
Kiongkuotaku-san: its removal05:07
kbrooksPhoenix92x: Should be killed, then.05:07
otaku-sandavid_: found it05:08
Phoenix92xkbrooks: should, but it won't die05:08
kbrooksPhoenix92x: and I said should :p05:08
otaku-sandavid_: heres what you do05:08
Phoenix92xlol05:08
kbrooksPhoenix92x: ##linux time?05:08
Phoenix92xthe channel is called ##linux and not #linux?05:08
kbrooksPhoenix92x: Right.05:09
actinicPhoenix92x, ok hit ctrl-esc05:09
Jucatogrr.. phone call05:09
Phoenix92xactinic: allright05:09
actinicthat should bring us running processes05:09
kbrooksactinic: er, gam_server is background05:09
otaku-sandavid_:right click your a button on your panel, then go to add applet to panel05:09
kbrooksok, bed time.05:09
actinichmm05:09
Phoenix92xactinin: the list is up05:09
actinicany gam listing there?05:09
otaku-sandavid_: scroll down a bit to Kmenu...click it and it will be added05:10
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Phoenix92xgam_server is listed05:10
actinichighlight it05:10
Phoenix92xuser % = ~2005:10
yokobrhi05:10
Phoenix92xsystem % = ~40-5005:10
actinicright click05:10
Phoenix92xk05:10
actinicsend signal05:10
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yokobrwhat is the command to shutdown in a specific time?05:10
Phoenix92xk05:10
kbrooksPhoenix92x: idf you cant kill it, give it less priority.05:10
otaku-sanKiongku: hehe you said that too... I feel retarded05:11
actinicsigkill maybe?05:11
yokobrshutdown -h 120?05:11
yokobror what?05:11
Phoenix92xactinic: it doesnt even disappear fro the list, it goes to 0 for a moment and then shoots right back up05:11
kbrooksPhoenix92x: Then less priority05:11
actiniclol an outta control app05:11
yokobrshutdown -h 120?05:12
Phoenix92xkbrooks: how do I give it less priority?05:12
yokobrat konsole05:12
kbrooksPhoenix92x: Give it 20 priority05:12
Phoenix92xkbrooks: I dont know how to do that05:12
Jucatoyokobr: sorry. i had to take a phone call05:12
Kiongkuotaku-san:nah.. i remember u were here before me =)05:12
yokobrok05:12
kbrooksPhoenix92x: No idea how in GUI. Do you have a terminal open?05:12
yokobrwhat is the command to shutdown in a specific time?05:12
Jucatoerr...05:12
Phoenix92xkbrooks: I can open a terminal05:13
kbrooksyokobr: that command.05:13
kbrooksyokobr: Add sudo05:13
otaku-sanKiongku: hehe in what way?05:13
Jucatoyokobr: shutdown -t <seconds>05:13
Phoenix92xkbrooks: terminal open05:13
yokobrand for 2 hours?05:13
yokobr-h?05:13
Kiongkuotaku-san: i'm only a 3 days old linux user XD?05:13
Hawkwindyokobr: 2x60x6005:13
Jucato2*60*6005:13
kbrooksPhoenix92x: ls -a | grep gam05:13
Hawkwindyokobr: -h is halt05:13
Jucato-h means "halt"05:13
Jucatolol!05:14
JucatoHawkwind beat me to it05:14
yokobryeap..05:14
kbrooksJucato: it acceptsv a time05:14
Hawkwindyokobr: If it helps, man shutdown will help you if noone else knows the answer05:14
yokobrhalt is shut down05:14
Phoenix92xit says triangle_game.hs05:14
kbrooksin factt, now is valid05:14
Phoenix92xbut that file isnt open....or running...05:14
Kiongku2*60*60 = 7200.. too much maths for me05:14
Hawkwindkbrooks: He wants to specify a time, not 'now'05:14
Jucatoyokobr: halt means "stop", which incidentally means shut down05:14
kbrooksPhoenix92x: that's not it05:14
Phoenix92xkbrooks: what should I have done then?05:14
kbrooksPhoenix92x: sorry, ps05:14
otaku-sanKiongku: Yeah your so uber n00b!!! ;)  Naw so am I...I sux0r when it starts getting down and dirty with the kernel....*shivers05:15
kbrooksPhoenix92x: i typoed, sorry05:15
Phoenix92xps -a | grep gam?05:15
kbrooksPhoenix92x: right on. :p05:15
Kiongkuotaku-san: lol the kernel i'm using i compiled it yesterday05:15
Phoenix92xkbrooks: didnt do a thing05:15
KiongkuKiongku: its my 2nd try.. much much better =)05:15
yokobrso, to turn off my oc in two hours , $ - shutdown -t 2*60*60 ?05:15
KiongkuXD** oosp otaku-san05:15
kbrooksPhoenix92x: no ?05:15
kbrooksyokobr: NO!05:15
otaku-sanKiongku: Oh man elite!!!!  I feel n00b05:16
Jucatoyokobr: no. compute it...05:16
kbrooksyokobr: calucate the '2*60*60'05:16
yokobrshutdown -h 120?05:16
Jucato720005:16
yokobrits on min. ?05:16
kbrooksyokobr: 2 minutes.05:16
kbrooksyokobr: seconds05:16
yokobrhummmmm05:16
Kiongkuotaku-san: i'm no eilte.. follow one of the guides and u can get one too :P05:16
Phoenix92xkbrooks: it doesnt give any output at all05:16
Jucato2 hours x 60 minutes x 60 seconds05:16
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actinicHawkwind, i want to downgrade kde per your site.  Any issues you've heard?05:16
kbrooksPhoenix92x: Dud you remove the ?05:17
kbrooksPhoenix92x: question mark.05:17
Phoenix92xI put in "ps -a | grep gam"05:17
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Phoenix92xwithout the quotes05:17
kbrooksPhoenix92x: try that as root05:17
yokobri quit05:17
Jucatoyokobr: something like "shutdown -t 7200"05:17
kbrooksPhoenix92x: Dont use sudo su05:17
otaku-sanKiongku: hehe!  Yeah...I mean why do you think Howtos were made...a bunch of gurus got tired of us n00bs so they wrote the things...thank goodness05:17
kbrooksPhoenix92x: use sudo <command>05:18
Phoenix92xhow do I get to root without using sudo su?05:18
Hawkwindactinic: Nope.  Everyone has been successful that has done it so far05:18
Phoenix92xok05:18
Phoenix92xkbrooks: tried it, no output at all05:18
Kiongkuotaku-san: or we would have hacked all their lives asking the questin for the 100th time05:18
kbrooksPhoenix92x: sudo -s is fine for a shell05:18
actinicHawkwind, ok good to hear05:18
yokobri ve used shutdown -h 120, or 120t....i dont remember05:18
kbrooksPhoenix92x: Seems like it WAS already killed then.05:18
Phoenix92xkbrooks, I put in  "sudo -s ps -a | grep gam"05:18
kbrooksyokobr: THE corrrect thing is shutdown -h 720005:18
Phoenix92xand it said05:19
kbrooksPhoenix92x: No, i mean a interactive shell.05:19
Phoenix92x"/bin/ps: /bin/ps: cannot execute binary file"05:19
actinic808 points now for Team Kubuntu.  Only me, however :(05:19
actinichttp://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=5123805:19
Kiongkuactinic: folding team?05:19
actinicyep05:19
otaku-sanKiongku: or they would start to creat meaner things to say than RTFM!!! Hahaha05:19
actinici'm so lonely :)05:19
Phoenix92xkbrooks: an interative shell?05:19
Phoenix92x*active?05:20
Kiongkuotaku-san haha..05:20
Phoenix92xIm already in a shell...05:20
Kiongkuactinic: i'll see if i'll join..05:20
kbrooksPhoenix92x: sudo -s is a root shell.05:20
Phoenix92x*nods*05:20
KiongkuOk everyone.. school starts soon. C ya all.. laters05:20
actinicwoohoo, I'd appreciate it Kiongku05:20
Phoenix92xI did "ps aux | grep gam_server"05:20
Phoenix92xand it said /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server05:20
Phoenix92xso something is running it....05:21
kbrooksPhoenix92x: full line05:21
kbrooksdont edit output05:21
Phoenix92xits taking 76% of my proc05:21
Kiongkuactinic: it'll be later though :P.. i need quit now05:21
Phoenix92xIm sorrry?05:21
Phoenix92xwhat do you mean by full line?05:21
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Kiongkuactinic: send me the quick link to ur page. i'l bookmark it05:21
kbrooksPhoenix92x: i neeed the full line thast you got the gam_server info from, the output05:21
Phoenix92xrighto05:21
actinichttp://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7868.0, Kiongku05:22
Phoenix92xI did 'ps aux | grep gam_server' what came out was05:22
kbrooksNO05:22
Kiongkuactinic: ok05:22
kbrooksdnt paste here05:22
david_I couldn't find what you were talking about, but i did find something that works, xfce menu05:22
Phoenix92xphoenix 17006 71.0 0.4 6020 4800 ?       R 22:11 6:34 /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server05:22
kbrooksPhoenix92x: paste thawt one line here05:22
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kbrooksh/o05:23
Phoenix92xphoenix  17006 71.0  0.4   6020  4800 ?        R    22:11   6:34 /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server05:23
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kbrooksi saw it.05:23
kbrooksno need to repaste.05:23
otaku-sanhey does anyone know why when I used Automatix and installed Frostwire I can't find it anywhere?05:23
D4rklyanyone know how to install codecs for kaffine ?05:23
kbrooksPhoenix92x: ps axjf - paste output to rafb.net/paste05:24
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Kiongkuactinic: btw u forgot how to instruct disabling it :p05:24
Phoenix92xhow do I do that?05:24
kbrooksPhoenix92x: select all output, copy it, paste to textbox05:24
actinicKiongku, that was deliberate :)05:24
Phoenix92xto textbox?05:25
Phoenix92xohhh rafb.net is a site05:25
Phoenix92xlol05:25
Phoenix92xsorry05:25
actinicD4rkly, try easyubuntu05:25
actinic!easyubuntu05:25
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.05:25
Phoenix92xI did ps axjf and is errored on me05:25
kbrooksPhoenix92x: and show link05:25
Phoenix92xnever mind05:25
Phoenix92xI inputted wrong05:25
Phoenix92xlol05:25
Kiongkuactinic: scary... i just got kubuntu work well. Dunt want to do somethign without a safe refeversal XD05:25
Jucatoehehe05:26
Jucatoscary indeed05:26
actinicKiongku, don't worry about it.  It's a standalone app05:26
actinicdoesn't affect anything else05:26
actiniclol05:26
actinicbut don't quote me on that :)05:27
Kiongkuactinic: hahaha.. i'll do some more research before deciding.. ok c ya got to run now05:27
kbrooksKiongku: it looks like its standalone though05:27
actinicok, i'm watching the dance finals on tv ... brb05:27
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kbrooksBTW ALL. EU and AX are not mutually exclusive, iirc05:28
DShepherdDaSkreech: hey05:28
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kbrooksok bed tme05:29
kbrooksbye bye.05:29
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Phoenix92xkbrooks05:30
Phoenix92xhttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/aI0YrJ43.html05:30
Phoenix92xdammit...he already left...05:31
LeeJunFanyokobr: btw - you could do shutdown -h -t $((2*60*60))05:31
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JRH3K5!shell05:31
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands05:31
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Phoenix92xcrap....I really wanted to try and get gam_server to stop taking over my computer too...05:32
LeeJunFananyone having problems with k3b burning DVD's? I get to about 5% and k3b says it's done however mkisofs never exits, and k3b won't quit until I kill mkisofs [even though the DVD has already ejected] 05:33
Phoenix92xwell05:33
Phoenix92xif anyone cacn help me with the whole gam_server problem Id really appreciate it...05:34
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otaku-sanKiongku: Yo!!!!! That kwin thing messed up my desktop...it's all ...messed up!!!  should I just run kwin?  or try kwin --replace again?05:35
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Phoenix92xperhaps there is some way for me to engage in honorable combat with this wretched 'gam_server' thing...05:35
Phoenix92xbahhhh *shakes fist* foolish gamin witchcraft!05:35
JRH3K5How do I change a user's shell from /bin/ssh to /bin/rssh?05:36
JRH3K5(from the terminal)05:36
otaku-sanKiongku: all of the tops of my windows pulled up are missing!!!05:36
LeeJunFanJRH3K5: usermod -s /bin/rssh [username] 05:36
JRH3K5usermod, thanks05:36
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otaku-sananybody else with some good ideas on what to do when kwin goes nuts?05:37
Jucatootaku-san: try running kwin again?05:38
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pierrethhello05:38
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pierrethwhat the name of the program used to add new applications?05:39
otaku-sanJucato: got that idea right as I saw you type it up!  Yep it worked...should of seen that...kwin --replace...well replaces it so running kwin will reestablish it05:39
JucatoAdept?05:39
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Jucatoehehe05:39
pierrethJucato: where this is suppose to be?05:39
JucatoK Menu > System05:39
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Phoenix92xshould I perhaps ask my gam_server question in ##linux ?05:40
pierrethit is not there05:40
Jucatothe Add/Remove Programs is a simplified version. Adept is the more poweful/complete version05:40
otaku-sanJucato...but I can't close Konsole cause now I've lost the tops of my windows again.......oh jeez....Hawkwind I think I may need to reboot05:40
Jucatootaku-san: no need to reboot05:40
Jucatojust restart X05:40
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Phoenix92xshould I ask about the gam_server thing in ##linux instead?05:40
LeeJunFanPhoenix92x: is gam kde specific? if not I'd try ubuntu. I haven't used anything other than kde in so long I don't know if gam is used by anything else.05:41
Jucatopierreth: try pressing Alt+F2 then enter "adept" (without the quotes)05:41
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pierrethJucato: i just made an install of it05:41
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otaku-sanJucato: holy moley...thats a bit harsh...tho' lead this n00b please who stuck his big ole' nose to far into the deeps of Linux05:41
pierrethit now works! :-)05:42
pierrethcurious, it was gone05:42
otaku-sanJucato: how do I restart X?05:42
Jucatootaku-san: restarting X is less harsh than rebooting :-D05:42
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D4rklyctrl-alt backspace to restart X05:42
Jucatootaku-san: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace. It's going to shutdown ALL grpahical apps05:42
LeeJunFanotaku-san: ctrl-alt-backspace [perhaps twice] 05:42
Jucatos/grpahical/graphical05:42
D4rklyctrl-alt backspace i done it for the glx nvidia drivers05:43
otaku-sanJucato: I don't know....It stinks but after being a Windoze user it kinda loses it's edge...ok now restarting X05:43
Jucatootaku-san: save everything you need to save...05:43
D4rklylol05:43
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Jucatootaku-san: at least you don't have to restart everything :-D05:44
otaku-sanJucato: ok...whats that s/grpahical/graphical .....hehe yeah so Linux users just restart X!05:44
Jucatosubstitute grpahical with graphical (typos...)05:45
D4rklyi got vmware working with a bit of help now i can run xp inside a window :)05:45
Jucatogrr.. gotta go. I'm starving05:45
Jucato:-D05:45
otaku-sanrun that in Konsole?  Oh and whats the keyboard shortcut to Konsole....I can't get to it05:45
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otaku-sanSee ya!05:45
LeeJunFanotaku-san: the s/[search] /[replace]  is syntax for the sed command05:45
Jucatootaku-san: no. I made a typo, so I corrected myself05:45
otaku-sanok eat man!!!05:46
D4rklyF4 from a dir05:46
JucatoCtrl+Alt+Backspace to restart X05:46
Jucatoyou can make your own shortcut for launching Konsole05:46
JucatoI made mine Ctrl+Alt+T (for terminal)05:46
Jucatoguess he restarted X... ehehe05:46
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otaku-sanwhoot!  it worked....talk about give me a hard attack I thought it had died!05:49
Jucatolol05:49
Jucatoglad to hear it worked05:49
Jucatonow to eat05:49
otaku-sanJucato: ok man go eat!  Thanks alot05:49
Jucatoitadakimasu!!!!05:49
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otaku-sanoh hehe I need to learn Japanese05:50
otaku-sanmore05:50
otaku-sanoh hehe typo that's w00t!05:51
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kirstenhelp! my apt-get is broken! every time i try to use it it says The package hl1440lpr needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.05:55
NoooBieneed help!!! how can i open a dokument with roots?05:58
otaku-sankirsten: not to be un-helpful but this is the first time I've ever heard of that happening!05:58
otaku-sanNoooBie: like what kind?  an open office?05:58
HawkwindNoooBie: kdesu kwrite /path/to/file05:59
NoooBieyes05:59
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HawkwindNoooBie: Replace kwrite with your favorite editor of choice05:59
NoooBiethx05:59
otaku-sanHawkwind: dang I had em'05:59
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otaku-sanHawkwind: just trying to put your knowledge to good use master! ;)06:00
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valehola06:00
osiriswhat is the apt-get dist upgrade command? i must be doing something wrong06:00
Hawkwindotaku-san: Heh06:00
valesolicito ayuda en redes06:00
Hawkwindosiris: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:00
otaku-sankirsten: have you tried googling it?06:00
Hawkwindvale: #Kubunut-ES06:00
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osiristhx Hawkwind, forgot the -06:01
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otaku-sanHawkwind: have you ever heard of kirstens prob?06:01
Hawkwindosiris: Tab/Bash completion :P06:01
Hawkwindjeephy: Are you done changing nicks yet ?06:01
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Hawkwindotaku-san: Nope06:01
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otaku-sanHawkwind: sounds dangerous to me...adepts a big thing it Linux06:02
otaku-sanor Debian06:02
otaku-sanor Ubuntu....Kubuntu06:02
Hawkwindpansatoy: Would you please stop that.  If you're going to change nicks constantly, part all channels please06:03
D4rklyhas anyone managed to get an ati tv wonder working ?06:03
osirisHawkwind, the hardware works.  now to rebuild everything06:03
D4rklyalso does adept have codes for kaffine ?06:03
HawkwindCodes for kaffiene ?06:04
D4rklylol typo codecs06:04
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Hawkwind!codecs06:05
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:05
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osirishow do i get matching sources for my kernel ?06:08
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Hawkwindosiris: What are you trying to install ?06:08
osirisgonna do nvidia in a tic here06:08
Hawkwind!nvidia > osiris06:08
Hawkwindosiris: Use the stuff that comes in the repos. Much easier06:09
osirisHawkwind: i here the official drivers run better06:09
osirisidk06:09
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Hawkwindosiris: They are all the same06:09
D4rklyhow do enable multiverse and universe ?06:09
osirisok. roger that06:09
Hawkwind!repos > D4rkly06:09
Hawkwindosiris: As soon as you get things done, then you going to build your kernel using the LFD how-to ?06:10
otaku-sanhey is there another irc thing like Konversation that allows transparent backgrounds?  Konversation soesn't support it!06:10
Hawkwindotaku-san: Xchat06:10
Hawkwindotaku-san: Or if you want a CLI client, irssi06:10
otaku-sanHawkwind: You use that right...I've seen it on some of your screenshots...or something like that06:11
otaku-sanwhat is a CLI client?06:11
Hawkwindotaku-san: Yes.  I use Xchat exclusively06:12
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otaku-sanhehe I'll go check it out!06:12
Hawkwindotaku-san: CLI = Command Line Interface, console, terminal, konsole client.  irssi is non-graphical, pure text06:12
Hawkwindotaku-san: sudo apt-get install xchat06:12
Hawkwindotaku-san: If you want the very latest xchat, then http://SeerOfSouls.com/ubuntu.html and add my deb repo to your sources.list06:12
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otaku-sanSweet!  You are the man...ok thanks a billion.  See you in a bit...on Xchat!06:13
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D4rklywhats Canonical commercial repositories ?06:17
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rich0rdahoi everyone, i am trying to install a network printer here, does anyone know if there are linux drivers for a sagem printer (combined fax, scanner, printer) after all - it's a sagem mf 308006:20
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D4rklyhow can i add divx support ?06:21
D4rklyto kaffiene06:22
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rich0rdD4rkly: i would recommend to use xine as a movie player, after all i dislike kaffeine06:26
D4rklybut kaffeine uses xine engine :)06:27
rich0rd:-D i like the ui of xine better , i should've said xine-ui06:28
D4rklyoh :)06:29
D4rklyi havnt seen it yet ill check out some screen shots06:29
rich0rdjust try it 'sudo apt-get install xine-ui'06:30
D4rklywow you can output video in ascii :)06:31
D4rklymatrix style lol06:31
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otaku-sanHeyo!06:31
pierrethhow can i see my list of tasks?06:33
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otaku-sanHawkwind: you there...I don't seem to have a thing to check whos on right now....06:33
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pierrethok, i found it06:35
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rich0rdD4rkly: just fire up aaxine filename :-D06:36
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Ashexhas anyone else had a problem with Amaroks global keys being killed after using automatix bleeder to install compiz/xgl?06:41
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HobbseeAshex: havent tried it, but i'm not surprised06:42
Ashexmeh06:43
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AshexI can reassign them, but i liked the defaults :(06:44
matt___Ashex: what do you mean by killed?06:44
Ashexthey stopped working06:44
Ashexthey're set in amarok, but they don't respong at all06:44
Ashexrespond*06:44
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matt___does the system totally freeze and only a reboot will get the system working again?06:44
Phoenix92xI FIGURED IT OUT!!!06:45
maltaethironhey, who can tell me how to get sound for mpgs in kaffien06:45
Ashexmatt___, nah, that's not it06:45
Ashexeven when Compiz isn't running, it doesn't work06:45
Phoenix92xas soon as I closed my konqueror windows gam_server dropped to 0.5 % of the CPU and it hasn't gone about 2%06:45
matt___sorry then Ashex, I only have very limited knowledge of Amarok - but I know that mine totally freezes the system06:48
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Ashexmatt___, have tried running it from terminal and checking for error messages?06:49
actinicway to go!06:49
Ashexhave you*06:49
matt___no, thats a good point06:49
matt___Ill try that now!06:49
Ashexi've had my share of problems with amarok, on one install, it randomly stopped playing songs on my ntfs partition06:49
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matt___but its really good when it works!06:50
Ashexhehe, yeah06:50
AshexWhat are you using for music now?06:50
matt___kaffine - but I think that its a sound issue, as that does the same ever so often06:52
Ashexah06:52
Ashexi recommend you try out quodlibet if you can't solve it06:52
nrdbI am having a problem start up X, when I do a 'startx' I get the the error message "xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom" can anyone help please?06:52
Ashexthat's what I was using instead06:52
Ashexplug in your Wacom Tablet nrdb06:52
matt___i like the visualisations, nearly as good as winamps06:52
Ashex"nearly"06:53
Ashex:P06:53
nrdbAshex: there has never been a tablet attached.06:53
Ashexoff06:53
Ashexer06:53
Ashexodd06:53
Ashexdpkg-reconfigure xfree-xf8606:53
Ashexor something like that06:54
Ashexwhichever X package it is your using06:54
nrdbAshex: default kunbuntu install.06:55
Hawkwindnrdb: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0  Follow that how-to on my forum.  It will probably help you06:55
Ashexare you using a usb mouse/keyboard?06:55
Hawkwindnrdb: That's assuming you don't have a wacom tablet on your system06:55
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nrdbHawkwind: just a trackball06:57
D4rklyive mounted my ntfs drive but dont have permission to open it in KDE, but i can cd to it in terminal using sudo06:58
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AshexD4rkly, you need to modify the permissions in fstab to allow a regular user to access it06:58
Ashexcheck man mount for details06:59
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D4rklyi wanted to manually mount it though is there anyway i can give user permission via konsole07:00
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Ashexyes, the fstab is basically the line you would execute07:00
D4rklyoh ok :)07:00
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D4rklywhats noauto07:02
Ashexthat's if you don't want the system to automatically mount it when it's attached07:03
Ashexso, you can add the line into fstab, and not worry about it being automatically mounted when the system starts07:03
D4rklycool :)07:04
Ashexat least, that's how I understand it07:04
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daoudHi07:12
daoudNeed help please, i cant find a Par2 repair for Kubuntuu07:12
farousdaoud: ?07:13
daoudPlease07:13
daoudIm looking for a Par2 repair for Kubuntu07:13
farousdaoud: do not know what a par207:13
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wolfmanzits a repair program you use on files that come off the newsgroups07:14
Ashexdaoud, apt-cache search par207:14
Ashex:P07:14
link_36pDoes anyone know of a good audio stream riipper?07:14
farouswolfmanz: ok thanx07:14
chingsound test07:15
daoud<Ashex: Kubuntu DD doesnt find it07:15
Hawkwindpar2 - Parity Archive Volume Set, for checking and repair of files07:16
Hawkwinddaoud: Sure it does07:16
Hawkwind!par207:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about par2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:16
Hawkwind!info par207:16
ubotupar2: Parity Archive Volume Set, for checking and repair of files. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.4-6 (dapper), package size 116 kB, installed size 368 kB07:16
daoudOH thanks07:16
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daoud<Hawkwind: Great got it working!07:19
daoudthanks all07:19
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Ashexwoops07:20
AshexI did not know that shortcut logged me out07:20
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D4rklyi dont have enough permissions to read /mnt/2 how can i give user permission ?07:20
Ashexgrr, damn scripts07:21
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jon_hey i mounted my second hard drive but it only wants the root user to access its contents. how can i change that?07:26
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jon_how do i change the permissions on a mounted hd?07:32
farous!ntfs07:33
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse07:33
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farous!fuse07:34
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse07:34
actinic!kmenu07:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kmenu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:34
actinichow do I make the kmenu semi-transparent?07:34
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jon_farous thanks, big help07:54
osiriswow this box is faster than my old one07:54
farousjon_: :)07:55
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farousisis was here looking for u07:56
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link_36pAnyone here know how i could rip "mms://a351.v13817b.c13871.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/351/13871/v0001/sony.download.akamai.com/13871/wm.sony.global/Columbia/PeteYorn/092892_01_02_full_56.wma" with mplayer ive tried "mplayer -dumpstream" and "mplayer -dumpaudio" neither worked :(07:59
jon_now i shall cross my fingers and restart08:00
jon_and hope i dont blow a fuse08:00
jon_snark08:00
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otaku-sanactini: go to Run Program in your kmenu08:05
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otaku-sanactini: then type in kcontrol...when that comes up go to Style08:05
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igorhello08:06
igorcan anybody help me with my printer configuration08:06
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otaku-sanactinic: go to Run Program in your Kmenu08:06
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otaku-sanactinic: then type in kcontrol...when that comes up go to Style08:07
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otaku-sanactinic: Then in that go to Effects in the tabs near the top, and look down to Menu Transparency08:08
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jon_man i did everything fuse told me to do, i can even see the files on a terminal, but only the root user has access to the files08:22
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jon_how do i change permissions>?08:41
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jon_i tried chmod 777 but the term said operation not supported?08:41
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Dimon08jon_ use sudo chmod 77708:48
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Ashexfor some reason, k3b doesn't support mp3's....08:50
fritschAshex: install libk3b2-mp308:51
Ashexheh, yeah, just found that :p08:51
fritschAshex: !RestrictedFormats08:51
Ashexi just find it as an oddity08:51
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Ashexstupid russians with their mp3 copyright stuff08:52
farousthat is realy funny they have dll and exe files to run wine under windows:)08:52
insanekaneAshex: ? :)08:52
fritschAshex: mp3 is copyrighted from the Fraunhofer Institut ...08:52
fritschfarous: wine is NOT installed by default in ubuntu08:52
AshexYeah, Germany08:53
Ashex>_>08:53
fritschAshex: :-)08:53
farousfritsch: i know i am at winehq they ported it to window :)08:53
Ashexfor some reason i always mix the two up08:53
fritschAshex: ...08:53
AshexWhat?!08:54
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fritschAshex: http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/maps/2000s/2004world1600.jpg08:55
Ashexhush08:55
Ashex:P08:55
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jon_dimon08 i tried sudo chmod 77709:00
jon_it says operation not supported09:01
farouswhat type of file you are chomod for09:01
jon_its a hard drive09:01
jon_ntfs09:01
jon_i tried fuse too09:02
jon_i thought it worked but it didnt09:02
jon_i can view the contents in a terminal, i just cant access anything09:02
farousyou cn not do that to window file sys either fat or ntfs09:02
farousjon_: try mounting it as user09:02
farouslet me give you the command09:02
jon_as user?09:02
jon_ok09:02
jon_i cant remember my root account09:03
farousjon_: but ntfs is risky you might loose all your data09:03
jon_i dont remember setting one up09:03
jon_you think so09:03
farousjon_: just type sudo will give you root priv09:03
jon_i tried that09:03
farousso lets say you want to copy09:03
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faroustype sudo cp <filename> <to filename>09:03
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jon_sudo chmod 777 /mnt/ntfs tells me operation not supported09:04
jon_i know how to use sudo, but in this case its not working for some reason09:04
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farousjon_: i think you can not chmod an ntfs file nor even give it ownership09:05
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jon_then how do i access it?09:06
_rince_mrgn09:06
jon_linux says it supports ntfs09:06
farousjon_: reading from09:06
farouswriting to ntfs is still riscy09:06
jon_thats cool i just want to be able to play my music09:07
farousjon_: i will be busy config wine for a while take care09:07
jon_thnx09:07
_rince_and what does not work?09:07
farousjon_: use totem go to the folder and just play it09:07
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jon_theres nothing to access...09:10
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jon_its denied09:10
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_rince_so 'ls' works, but you can't read any files?09:10
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jon_right09:11
jon_i cant use the GUI to open the hd09:11
jon_but i can ls in a term09:11
_rince_what's the exact output of 'ls -la somefile'?09:11
jon_total 80842409:12
jon_-rw------- 2 root root  48519332 2006-03-01 23:46 alembic TX.wav09:12
jon_etc09:12
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_rince_you mounted this ntfs with the wrong parameters09:13
jon_what should the parameters be?09:13
jon_and is this something to edit in fstab?09:13
_rince_yep09:14
jon_how do i find out what to edit09:14
_rince_have a look at the manual, especially umask, gid and uid09:14
jon_dammit09:14
jon_why does windows have to be so easy09:14
_rince_this determines as which user and group the volume is mounted09:14
jon_i set the GID at 100109:14
_rince_and umask says which permissions are given to them09:14
jon_which is what fuse said to do09:14
jon_umask is on 009:15
jon_which i thought meant all access09:15
_rince_nope, umask sets the default permissions, usually for newly created files, but in this case for the whole volume09:16
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jon_when i man umask09:16
jon_it says 002209:16
_rince_and keep in mind, that those permissions are virtual in some way, because ntfs does not support permissions09:16
jon_right09:16
_rince_you're looking at the wrong manual :)09:16
jon_crap09:16
jon_can you just tell me what the parameters should be? =)09:17
_rince_depends on your system ;)09:18
_rince_/dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       109:18
_rince_works for me09:18
jon_how do i pull up the man pages again?09:19
_rince_but only because i'm in the group 'plugdev' which is gid 4609:19
_rince_try 'man mount'09:19
jon_im pretty sure my group id is 100109:19
_rince_sounds reasonable for the first user on a kubuntu system09:20
Dimon08jon_, in lubuntu u may go to the System Settings09:20
Dimon08jon_, and there is an option for partitions, I don't remeber it's name09:20
_rince_then try something like 'mount -t ntfs /dev/windows-foo /some/mountpoint -ogid=1001'09:20
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Dimon08then u enter Administrator mode09:20
Dimon08and change ya ntfs partition owner to your user instead of root09:21
Dimon08so u don't need to edit fstab manually09:21
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jon_but im not on root09:21
jon_user09:21
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Dimon08when u will click Administrator mode it will ask u for the password09:22
jon_i cant find it09:22
Dimon08go to the system settings first09:22
Dimon08from K menu!09:22
jon_under system/administration?09:23
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jon_im on dapper09:23
testI want to create a automated Installed, that installs all the packages that I have right now... like the ubuntu installer, but then only with the packages that I have...09:23
Dimon08on Kubuntu dapper?09:23
jon_hm09:23
jon_i think its ubuntu09:23
jon_i had ubuntu breezy and i distro upgraded09:24
Dimon08oh:)09:24
jon_i figured i still had ubuntu09:24
Dimon08then I don't know where it is in GNOME09:24
Dimon08i like KDE09:24
jon_yea i hear its good09:24
jon_maybe i should swap09:24
Dimon08and maybe then u need to go to channel #ubuntu09:24
jon_good idea09:24
jon_how do i do that09:25
Dimon08tipe "/join #ubuntu"09:25
Dimon08*type09:25
jon_thanks =)09:25
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Dimon08np:)09:26
testI want to create a automated Installed, that installs all the packages that I have right now... like the ubuntu installer, but then only with the packages that I have...09:26
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kdotskyi've tried everythin, i can't get my usb wirelesss working in dapper, i give up09:35
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kdotskyi used breezy for a while and loved it, but i can't continue09:36
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jon_not much help over there =\09:36
kdotskynope09:36
JohnFluxkdotsky: i have no idea about usb wireless sorry09:37
JohnFluxkdotsky: all i can suggest is google :/09:37
kdotskyyeah i know, i'm just being frustrated out loud09:37
JohnFluxkdotsky: or ask on a mailing list or something.  It's annoying that such simple things are still hard to do09:37
kdotskyi've done everything that google has told me :)09:37
JohnFlux:-)09:37
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kdotskyi read a ubuntuforums thread with other ppl complaining how dapper is actually worse with wireless support09:38
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JohnFluxkdotsky: forward 2 steps, backwards 1 step ;)09:38
JohnFluxkdotsky: and I speak as a kde coder myself09:38
JohnFluxkdotsky: but hopefully we'll get there... eventually ... ;-)09:38
kdotskyyeah i'm just really dissappointed09:38
kdotskycuz i've been using linux exclusively for a couple years09:39
kdotskyand proud of it09:39
kdotskyand never was i this completely stuck09:39
kdotskyand it just seems like it's over now09:39
JohnFluxkdotsky: do you see the interface in ifconfig?09:39
kdotskyyeah, and iwconfig09:39
JohnFluxkdotsky: and it just doesn't work?09:40
kdotskyi can't scan for networks, and i can't change the essid09:40
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JohnFluxah, something wrong with the kernel module09:40
JohnFluxkdotsky: did you try an older kernel?09:40
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kdotskywell it's a fresh install of dapper... no update or anything09:41
kdotskyso that would mean what, using breezy?09:41
JohnFluxkdotsky: nah nothing so drastic09:41
JohnFluxkdotsky: do:  uname -a09:42
JohnFluxkdotsky: and paste the result here please09:42
JohnFluxor copy09:42
JohnFluxjust the kernel part i'm interested in09:42
JohnFlux2.6.15-23-amd64-generic   is mine09:42
JohnFluxyours probably isn't amd6409:42
kdotsky2.6.15-23-38609:42
JohnFluxdo:  apt-cache search kernel | grep image09:43
fritschkdotsky: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:43
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kdotskyfritsch: internet is the problem here09:44
JohnFluxfritsch: isn't that the most recent one?09:44
JohnFluxkdotsky: doh right right ;)09:44
JohnFluxkdotsky: you have some cdrom or something though?09:44
fritschkdotsky: no -26-386 is the newest09:44
fritschJohnFlux: ah okay just got it ...09:44
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jon_Dimon08 - got it to work =)09:44
fritschJohnFlux: did he mentian the chipset of his usb wireless?09:44
kdotskyif you guys really believe an update would help i could get a wheelbarrow and move my computer to a jack09:44
fritschkdotsky: no just wait09:45
kdotskyyes i installed dapper from cdrom09:45
fritschkdotsky: please open a terminal09:45
JohnFluxkdotsky: don't think it will09:45
fritschkdotsky: plug out your usb wireless09:45
fritschkdotsky: plug it in again09:45
fritschkdotsky: run "dmesg" an see what it says09:45
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kdotskyuname -a gives 2.6.15-23-38609:46
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JohnFluxfritsch: you want the chipset09:46
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fritschJohnFlux: I want to know what the kernel says09:47
kdotskyok i think plugging it back in froze me09:47
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kdotskylol09:47
fritschkdotsky: really? it froze your machine09:47
kdotskywell i'll give it a sec09:47
fritschkdotsky: what "wireless" is it? name, etc.09:47
kdotskyi ain't making it up tho09:47
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kdotskynegear wg111v209:48
kdotskyusb09:48
kdotskyi done all the googles09:48
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fritschkdotsky: mmmh you have the windows drivers in place?09:48
kdotskyyes09:48
kdotskyndiswrapper09:48
fritschyes09:48
kdotskyhad native drives, tried that09:48
fritschndiswrapper finds it?09:48
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kdotskyblacklisted the native drives following a guide, used ndiswrapper09:49
fritschkdotsky: okay? but nothing worked?09:49
fritschkdotsky: why the the "original" (blacklisted) drivers not work?09:49
kdotskyi don't know why, but i saw advice that they were experimental and to use ndiswrapper, and most the threads on ubuntuforums for this device use ndiswrapper too09:50
fritschkdotsky: okay09:50
fritschkdotsky: did it freeze?09:50
kdotskyi believe it was actually a similar problem, it was detected and everything but it just wouldn't work09:50
kdotsky(with the native drives)09:50
kdotskyyes it's done frozen solid09:51
fritschkdotsky: okay, please reset, reboot09:51
kdotskylike windows style09:51
kdotskylol09:51
fritschkdotsky: sorry :-) it was the kernel *G*09:51
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fritschkdotsky: reboot, but do not plugin you card09:51
fritschkdotsky: lets do this later09:51
kdotskyfritsch: other ppl have gotten this device to work, might it have something to do with my hardware?09:52
nickenyfikenwhat is wrong if login screen resolution is different then the on when im logged in?09:52
kdotskyfritsch: ok09:52
fritschkdotsky: no just wait09:53
fritschnickenyfiken: perhaps you messed up with krandrtray09:53
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kdotskyfritsch: i'm rebooted09:53
fritschkdotsky: okay, pug in the usb wireless09:53
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fritschkdotsky: and tell me, what "dmesg" says09:54
nickenyfikenfritsch: i don't even know what krandrtray is09:54
kdotskywlan0: vendor: 'Realtek ....'09:54
fritschkdotsky: okay09:54
kdotskywlan0: ndiswrapper ethernet device <mac> using driver ....09:55
fritschkdotsky: this is okay09:55
kdotskywlan0: encryption modes supported: ...09:55
kdotskyok09:55
fritschkdotsky: now do: ifconfig09:55
fritschkdotsky: which devices do you see?09:55
kdotskywlan0 is there09:55
fritschkdotsky: cool ;-)09:55
fritschkdotsky: now do: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan09:55
kdotskyno scan results09:55
kdotskyi'm predicting09:55
kdotskyyup09:56
fritschkdotsky: but there has te be scan results?09:56
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kdotskyexact words: "wlan0     No scan results"09:56
fritschkdotsky: wireless is near you? i think09:56
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kdotskyi'm talking through it right now09:56
fritschkdotsky: cool :-)09:56
fritschkdotsky: you do not hide the ESSID, or?09:56
kdotskynope, no security, broadcast (meaning everyone can see it?)09:57
fritschkdotsky: try: sudo iwconfig wlan0 "ESSID" (where ESSID, is your essid)09:57
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elias_My ROOT is mounted read-only but mount says it is (rw)?09:57
kdotskythe essid won't change, i've tried it09:57
elias_XFS says unknown mount option acl in dmsg and now is read-only. But this is my ROOT fs. How to get it back rw?09:57
eeosdoes anyone know about a graphical pppe client for kde?09:57
fritschkdotsky: okay! sudo ifconfig wlan0 down && sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "YOURS"09:58
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kdotskysry, not trying to be rude09:58
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farouskdotsky: it might be the driver had similar prob like yours tried 11 drivers till got the one that worked did you look at http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page09:58
fritschkdotsky: you also checked this before, i think09:59
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fritschkdotsky: sorry, just wanted to start "from the beginning"09:59
kdotskyfritsch: completely understand09:59
kdotskyfritsch: did that command, essid is still "off/any"10:00
fritschkdotsky: could you at last give me "the whole Realtek ...." from dmesg10:00
Ashexnight10:00
fritschkdotsky: so i can hel googling?10:00
kdotskyfarous: wlan0: vendor: 'Realtek RTL8187 Wireless Lan USB NIC"10:00
kdotskyer, fritsche:10:00
kdotskyi get back to farous10:01
kdotsky:)10:01
farous:)10:01
kdotskyslightly intoxicated to, FWIW10:01
kdotskyhehe10:01
kdotskyfarous: so i've seen that page, there's a few different entries for my device10:02
fritschkdotsky: last idea: compile ndiswrapper from source and try again10:02
farousi had a broadcom so had too many entries for mine :)10:03
kdotskyso if i try >= 11 it works?10:03
farousthe window drive never worked that came with my laptop10:03
kdotskyhehe10:03
fritschkdotsky: mmmh, i read sth.10:03
farouskdotsky: i guess i was lucky i got it after 11 haha10:03
fritschkdotsky: you said its a netgear card?10:03
kdotskysth?10:03
kdotskyyes10:03
fritschkdotsky: with realtek chip10:04
fritschkdotsky: please try the original realtek driver10:04
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fritschkdotsky: http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?showtopic=1908410:04
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fritschme goes -> university :-) cz10:05
fritschcu10:05
kdotskyfritsch: leaving?10:05
fritschkdotsky: yes - please try the original Realtek driver mentioned above10:06
fritschkdotsky: this should work (this guy uses a very old suse from 2005)10:06
kdotskyfritsch: thanks for the help, i'll give it a shot tomorrow10:06
fritschkdotsky: no problem @all (happy to help)10:07
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link_36pStupid question, but is there a cammand to delete a directory and all its contents?10:13
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stray77rm - rf <directory>10:13
farouslink_36p: sure but why not use the gui konq10:13
stray77rm -rf10:13
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link_36pfarmous: I clocked "move to trash" and it replied to me "Could not rename file /home/patrick/bin/MPlayer-1.0pre8."10:14
chakie_workis mplayer still at "pre 1.0"? it's been so for a few centuries now10:15
link_36p1.0pre810:15
farouslink_36p: and you can not just empty the trash10:16
link_36pah10:16
farousrealplay annon it will release a free mplayer but who know when10:16
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alpha232Mornin... Anyone here notice that Kubuntu's kernel is somewhat different than the Stock Ubuntu, not that it matters too much but i'm running it under vmware and the tools don't like the kernel lol10:25
kdotskyso there's no kubuntu channel just for my wireless usb stick10:25
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alpha232kdotsky: you're trying to network using a USB wifi? eww10:25
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kdotskyalpha232: worse than eww, it's a complete show stopper10:26
alpha232why? and what kind of usb adaptor is it, and what have you tried?10:26
alpha232wifi for me was a showstopper then i just spent $10 on ebay and got a sweet pcmcia card10:27
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kdotskyalpha232: i've tried it all10:27
kdotskyalpha232: it's for a desktop10:27
kdotskyalpha232: maybe i should buy a pci card10:27
alpha232why not just wire it in10:27
alpha232unless you're gonna be movin stuff around... its better to just hardwire it10:28
kdotskyalpha232: i was told that' even harder10:28
kdotskyalpha232: jk10:28
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alpha232well what kind of usb wifi thing is it10:28
alpha232who makes it10:28
kdotskynetgear wg111 v210:29
alpha232ok and what does it show up as when you do  lsusb?10:29
stray77kdotsky, theres lots of support for netgear wireless usb10:29
kdotskymy 4 roomates prolly won't appreciate a 50 foot ethernet cable going from upstairs to downstairs10:29
stray77drill10:29
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alpha232why not get a wireless bridge?10:30
kdotskyi've pretty much tried it all, google, ubuntu forums, etc10:30
alpha232gives you an ethernet port10:30
kdotskyinteresting, i've never heard of that10:30
tkkdotsky: so use a longer one... people should always appreciate more of something more ;)10:31
alpha232did you read this one, bahh damnit i can't paste vmware tools isn't installed yet10:31
kdotskytk: how long is recommended10:31
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stray77kdotsky, is your wifi usb stick listed here? -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported#head-603c9481d6c6288b6b674cc50132d21f6d539c5310:31
kdotskyprolly10:31
alpha232kdotsky: have you read, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthreat.php?t=5199310:31
MattchewieHowdy folks!10:31
alpha232er10:31
alpha232kdotsky: have you read, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5199310:32
tkhehe, get you a nice 1000ft or so... gives you plenty of mobility and still provides network access ;)10:32
kdotskytk: i live the idea of being able to drive to the gas station with my desktop, where do i get one?10:32
stray77wg111-v1 works, i dont see v2 tho10:32
tkkdotsky: lol, where the hell you live that theres a gas station that close?10:33
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alpha232vmware is fun heh10:33
kdotskyalpha232: that link takes me to forum home10:33
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kdotskytk: i have no concept of 1000 ft10:33
fek_moin10:33
tkkdotsky: lil longer than a football field?10:33
alpha232kdotsky: sorry i had to type it inlol, no cut/paste here...  search it for   ubuntu and your model number, it should find you a fix10:33
stray773 football fields10:34
stray77approx10:34
kdotsky3 football fields not that far for a gas station right?10:34
MattchewieQuestion: I have a Nvidia FX5200 in a crappy little Acer Aspire SA80 and I followed the binary instructions for installing nvidia-glx but when I restart x, I don't see a logo. Is there a way I can "verify" that everything is working other than if I see the logo or not?10:34
tkstray77: woops yah, math aint my strong point after work :P10:34
kdotskyalpha232: i've prolly searched it, found it, and tried it10:34
stray77https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG11110:35
stray77try that page10:35
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kdotskystray77: done it10:36
alpha232kdotsky: well do it again, it does work10:36
alpha232kdotsky: follow the directions, make sure you have the right drivers10:36
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kdotskyi dunno how many more times i can do it10:36
tkanyone here using 64bit with the 32bit FF for flash?10:36
kdotskytk: use 256bit it works out of the box10:37
alpha232After upgrading to Dapper Drake (6.06), I fould significant problems trying to get the WG111 working. Here are the instructions that I fould worked on a Compaq Deskpro EN desktop and IBM Netvista. This section describes a successful setup procedure for the Netgear WG111 (version 2) -- a USB-based wireless dongle -- in Ubuntu 6.0610:37
alpha232kdotsky: maybe start reading there if you're running 60610:37
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tkkdotsky: when processors make it up to 256bit I might consider that :P10:38
romanLaunch the Terminal Application/Window and navigate to the /usr/share/fglrx folder10:38
romanhow do you do this10:38
romannavigate to10:38
tkroman: run konsole, then type cd /usr/share/fglrx10:38
romanok10:38
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kdotskyalpha232: don't take offense, but seriously, i've tried everything... i've gotten past those instructions and the problem is after that... i can't do an iwlist scan and i cant change my essid using iwconfig10:39
tkalpha232: wdm?10:40
stray77it doesnt look supported to me, only v110:40
kdotskysomeone in #ubuntu that wrote a guide on ubuntuforums confirmed that everything should be working correctly10:40
kdotsky(a guide on getting this particular dongle to work)10:40
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alpha232tk: windows manager, OW, KDE, et al10:40
debIs there a way to make the user-list background transparent in KDM ?10:40
kdotskyit's basically goodbye to ubuntu for me10:40
alpha232kdotsky: oh well... if you're not willing to work for it, may you live with gates happily10:41
tkkdotsky: ahhh, I figured that, b ut I didnt think you would actually have meant windows desktop manager as that was all I could think of for the "D"10:41
tkerr10:41
tkalpha rather10:41
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tkmy by10:41
link_36pAnyone know why this isnt working? http://pastebin.ca/13590810:41
tkugh, BAD10:41
kdotskyalpha232: i've spent the past 2 days working on it10:41
alpha232lol10:42
kdotskyalpha232: and i've used linux the past 2 years so i'm not *completely* ignorant10:42
alpha232kdotsky: never said you were ;)  rule 1 with ndiswrapper, make sure you have the right driver10:42
tkkdotsky: if you arent against spending some money, you can go the wfi bridge route that was suggested earlier.... as iwas said, it takes a wifi signal and provides a remote hardwire link to the network.10:42
kdotskyalpha232: i might try a few more drivers10:43
kdotskyalpha232: though i dont see why the one that came with the cd shouldn't work (as it did for other ppl)10:43
alpha232kdotsky: don't try a few more, try the right one, goto netgear and download it..10:43
alpha232kdotsky: the cd may have multiple drivers on it, are you sure you grabbed the right one10:43
kdotskycomon, i know the model number10:43
alpha232kdotsky: manufacturers usually put all the drivers for a series of products on it... windows knows how to figure out which is which10:44
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stray77wg111v1 works with a tivo which is linux and comes with linux drivers on the cd from netgear, v2 doesnt work with tivo and doesnt come with drivers on cd.10:44
alpha232kdotsky: downloaded drivers are usually more specific because they can be done one-off without the expense of a CD production run10:44
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kdotskytk: i did not get your joke at all earlier, but i will definitely look into the bridge suggestion10:45
alpha232kdotsky:  were you using the NDIS3, NDIS4 or NDIS5 drivers?10:45
kdotskyalpha232: maybe we're getting somewhere, cuz your question is gibberish to me10:46
alpha232then you didn't follow the guide listed here, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG11110:46
kdotskylol, trickery!10:47
stray77he told me he did all that10:47
alpha232make sure to move down to the portion titled, WG111 HowTo (Part 2: DAPPER DRAKE)10:47
kdotskyok hold on everyone10:47
kdotskyi know what's going on now10:47
tkkdotsky: s'ok was just the old "turn the radio down" so you turn it up idealogy :P10:47
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stray77This page describes the setup procedure for the Netgear WG111 (version 1)10:47
stray77hes got version 210:48
stray77they aint the same at all10:48
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kdotskyyes i know10:48
kdotskyone sec plz10:48
alpha232Stray: read the fscking thing his section describes a successful setup procedure for the Netgear WG111 (version 2) -- a USB-based wireless dongle -- in Ubuntu 6.06.10:48
stray77my bad10:48
kdotskyokay for that particular guide, i have no idea where this ndis5 driver is located10:48
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alpha232or as we would say on /.  rtfoa|p10:48
alpha232kdotsky: on the install cd with the drivers on it, the pretty round silver shiny thingy10:49
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kdotskyi threw that out immediately10:49
kdotskyfine hold on10:49
noaXesssomebody uses the smartmontools?10:50
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kdotskyright so that's one place i looked for this ndis directory and couldn't find it, but i'll look again right now10:51
eeoshow do you recompile a packae on kubuntu?10:51
alpha232kdotsky: put the cd in the drive, and mount it (if you don't have automounting on)10:52
alpha232kdotsky: then change directory to /cdrom10:52
kdotskyalpha i can do this stuff (thx)10:52
alpha232kdotsky: and type in  "find . | grep -i ndis5"  and see what it says10:52
kdotskyah i see where we're going10:53
kdotskynothing10:53
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stray77http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/WG111U.asp10:53
stray77ndis5 is in both xp and 98 driver packs10:54
kdotskyi got the drivers from the driver/WINXP dir10:54
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alpha232kdotsky: ok and what files are in there?10:55
kdotskyinf cab and sys?10:55
eeos how do you compile a packages on kubuntu?10:55
eeosusing sources from kubuntu repository of course10:55
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anssi_java....why wont it work?10:56
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anssi_!java10:56
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository10:56
kdotskynet111v2.cat  net111v2.inf  TRANS.TBL  wg111v2.sys10:56
farouseeos: apt-build package name10:56
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alpha232ok... so you need the .inf and the .sys10:57
kdotskyright10:57
eeosfarous can you pass compilation options?10:57
farouseeos: not sure look at the apt man give me a min will give you the link10:57
stray77what about the ar5523.bin10:57
alpha232kdotsky:  so use ndiswrapper to install the driver...10:57
alpha232sudo ndiswrapper -i <blah>.inf10:58
kdotskydone that10:58
alpha232kdotsky: umm Did you do it just now, or are you saying you've done it in the past?10:58
kdotskyin the past10:58
alpha232i give up10:58
alpha232go back to windows10:58
alpha232feed yourself for a day10:59
kdotskybecause i'm being an ass?10:59
alpha232and may you never need to learn how to fish10:59
alpha232ass, no, not willing to help yourself, yes10:59
stray77give a man a fish, he eats for the night, teach a man to fish and he eats every night.11:00
farouseeos: can not find it now you can google apt-build or try the man pages11:00
eeosfarous thanks11:00
alpha232one thing about ubuntu... it is 99.993% reproduceable...11:00
farouseeos: sorry am working on something now :)11:00
eeosfarous thanks in any case, you gave me the right hint can use the man pages now11:00
alpha232if someone does it, then replicates it and documents it... it will work for everyone in the same boat... almost all the time.11:00
farous:)11:00
alpha232you're just not willing to duplicate somthing you think you already did11:01
kdotskyalpha232: i agree11:01
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kdotskyi'm just frustrated right now, i could come in here every day and have someone google the answer for me and have me go through it from the beginning11:02
alpha232kdotsky: well i can't help you any more than you're willing to help yourself, however look at the source for the information...help.ubuntu.com11:03
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alpha232kdotsky: oh and it was stray77 who suggested that webpage and you even made him second guess himself...11:05
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kdotskyalpha232: everything appears as if it should work, the diagnostic commands as well as iwconfig and ifconfig, if it were a driver prob we'd probably get to the same end11:05
stray77;)11:05
fritschkdotsky: wireless working?11:05
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alpha232kdotsky: when it clearly covers your situation... i'm lible to a linus stance now... its yours, run with it until you fall flat on your face and break it.11:06
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kdotskyalpha232: about the guide?  yes i went through it and never foudn the NDIS5 directory they were talking about11:06
stray77then you couldnt go through it11:06
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stray77(now that i read the whole page)11:06
kdotskystray77: it would be impossible if my CD doesn't say what they said it has11:06
stray77website of manufacturer11:07
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stray77drivers11:07
stray77download11:07
alpha232if i find it there before you, you aughta be shot11:07
fritschkdotsky: you downloaded the realtek drivers, i was pointing you one hour ago?11:07
kdotskylol11:07
stray77i already did11:07
alpha232cause that is the first place you shoulda looked11:07
stray77ndis5 is in both driver packages at11:07
stray77http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/WG111U.asp11:08
alpha232stray77: ooh you're fast11:08
basheei have a problem which occurs about once a day suddenly (cannot reproduce): the mouse pointer gets _very_ jerky and then stays that way. even restarting x/kdm does not help. only rebooting helps. does someone now what for a service it is i have to restart or knows another help?11:08
stray77batteries in mouse?11:08
basheeno. cable mouse. logitech.11:09
basheealso occurs with gnome.11:09
alpha232got it!11:09
alpha232bashee: is this a fresh install?11:10
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basheeits an ubuntu with installed kde and kubuntu packages :). its about two weeks old11:10
kdotskystray77: is that same version? i'm wg111 and it's wg111u11:11
alpha232stray77: hmm looks like the XP driver is a ndis3 driver11:11
basheein fact i changed to kde because of that. but after one week it now also happens in kde ;(11:11
alpha232stray77: nevermind, i found it ;)11:11
link_36pAnyone here got experience with mencoder?11:11
alpha232rtl8187 whoot11:12
stray77u=usb in this case11:12
kdotskyoh11:12
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kdotskystray77: i see win98/me and "initial driver"11:13
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stray77both have a ndis5 folder containing the files you need11:16
kdotskyk11:16
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stray77http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i2085711:17
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TheHighChildany wireless users out there?11:19
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alpha232TheHighChild: ummmm yeah11:19
TheHighChildI know my wireless works, just not sure what the best method to connect is, I can't seem to at the moment11:20
romanyeah am ati vga card is working fine with the new ati driver11:20
alpha232TheHighChild: how do you mean, best method?11:20
romanbut openGL is not working11:20
TheHighChildwell, I would like to use the command line11:20
TheHighChildjust not sure how to connect to my wireless11:21
romanand USBcardreader is also not working11:21
stray77thehighchild, heres an example using WEP11:21
stray77sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid ACCESS_POINT_NAME mode managed key TEXT_WEP_KEY restricted11:21
alpha232stray77: speed daemon11:22
stray77c/p from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG11111:22
stray77hehehe11:22
romanis the no driver for my cardreader11:22
romanit's based on a realtek chipset11:23
alpha232stray77: ahh i moved off of that and on to my own problem, getting iptables -j TARPIT to work11:23
alpha232can't seem to find a single useful how-to11:24
stray77roman, what product is it?11:24
romancardreader11:24
romanusb11:24
romanwhen i connect it nothing happens11:25
stray77brand name model no.?11:25
stray77or specific realtek chipset11:26
romanchipset = realtek RTS5101-01E11:26
neoncodeHow do I connect to an NFS share?11:27
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alpha232buggerall11:28
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GameXhow do i can see connected usb hardware11:30
aliasfredGameX: lsusb ?11:30
GameXok11:31
GameXmy cardreader is not regonized11:32
GameXmy logitech mouse is regonized11:32
GameXus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:000011:32
GameXBus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:c03d Logitech, Inc.11:32
GameXBus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:000011:32
GameXBus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:000011:32
GameXBus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:000011:32
GameXi found the problem11:33
GameXlinux only regonized my 4 usb ports and not the 2 other usb ports11:34
GameXi connect my usb cardreader to an another usb port and its working11:34
stray77yay11:34
stray77i couldnt find anythin on installing one11:35
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GameXbut the 2 other usb ports are working in winXP fine11:35
michael__anyone here have any luck burning mp3 to audio w/o converting separately first?11:35
GameXwy not in linux11:35
fritschGameX: interrupt problem perhaps11:35
fritschGameX: try booting with routeirq=pci11:36
GameXi have got 6 usb ports11:36
GameXbut the 4 on the back of my computer are only working11:36
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tucozHi, I am having problems with adept and synaptic. Adept stopped responding a few days ago, so I killed all the adept processes to update with apt-get. However, both synaptic and adept refuses to start now.11:36
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alpha232kdotsky has been idle for 21 minutes and 19 seconds... hmm i wonder11:38
alpha232damn 5:37am and i still don't have tarpit bugger... time to look into rebuilding a kernel or two11:38
kdotskywhat might he be up to11:41
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GameXhas anyone dslinux on hid nintendo ds11:47
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GameXhas someone an nintendo ds11:56
GameXwith linux11:56
alpha_k time to destroy my kubuntu install11:56
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sdfstray77: when installing the driver, ndiswrapper -l says driver present12:06
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kdotsky`but no mention of hardware12:07
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kdotsky`i installed wg111u.inf from the ndis5 dir12:07
KaleoRiddell: bug 55973 would love some attention :)12:08
RiddellKaleo: added to my TODO12:09
Kaleothanks :)12:10
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kdotsky`stray77: and that page u linked has no mention of it being v2?  this page seems more relavant: http://kbserver.netgear.com/release_notes/D102843.asp but it does not have ndis5 directory, it is similar to the directories on the cd the came with it12:13
Knightlustquestion: how do you start the network connection in konsole? what command do i need to type in/12:14
Knightlustthanks in advance12:14
fritschKnightlust: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart12:14
fritschKnightlust: but should already be done when your computer is starting up12:15
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Knightlusti accidentally unplugged my router. i had to reboot to restart my connection12:15
Knightlustfritsch, thank you for your reply12:15
Knightlustwill try it out12:15
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kdotsky`fritsch: i tried that realtek driver, it seemed to install ok but i'm ending up where i was before12:21
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jujimufuwhen I do "apt-get install xserver-xorg-dev" I get this error : http://pastebin.ca/13598112:24
hunt0rhello, I have a Problem with konsole and transparency. It works when I have only one tab open but if I have more tabs open all other tabs are not transparent anymore except the first one12:24
Igorotsfritsch: thank you, it worked12:24
insanekanehunt0r: thats how it works12:25
hunt0rinsanekane: hmm? Only the first tab should be transparent?12:26
insanekanehunt0r: if you want all your new tabs to follow the first style, then you have to "set to default"12:26
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Phiraxhi, i'm attemping to install kubuntu 6.06 desktop AMD64, and after the splash screen is done loading daemons, kubuntu continues to load but i have no display, my display actually turns off (aka my monitor goes to sleep), i have tried safemode, and tried hitting ctrl-alt-backspace, ctrl-alt-f1 -> f7 and can't bring up even the console, this is my first time trying kubuntu, i've always used redhat/fedora until i decided to have a go a12:27
Phiraxideas?12:27
tucozPhirax, maybe you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:28
Phiraxwell i can't cos i can't even get there12:28
hunt0rinsanekane: well that does not work for me12:29
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insanekanehunt0r: thats why i said "new tabs"12:29
insanekanehunt0r: select a tab, change the schema, set to default, *open a new tab* ... you will see the *new tab* will have the default schema which you have selected12:29
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Phiraxi heard that its a bug with my ati driver and changing to vesa may work, but no idea how to do that without any display at all12:29
insanekanehunt0r: from then on, all the new tabs will have the default schema12:29
tucozPhirax, hmm, right. sorry. didn't see the ctrl-alt-backspace ,,,part of your message12:30
tucozPhirax, safe mode doesn't work?12:30
hunt0rinsanekane: well that does not work... Could that be a BUG?12:30
Phiraxtucoz: nah yeah safemode does the same12:30
insanekanePhirax: well, you will have to change your default runlevel in the GRUB screen, and when you login, reconfigure the xserver12:30
insanekanehunt0r: it possibly isn't, because it works for me12:30
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insanekanehunt0r: close all your tabs (except the very first one) ... change your schema, then, Save as Default. Next, open a new tab12:31
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Phiraxtucoz: is there a way to install using text only? maybe then i can disable xorg from loading and messing up the whole system12:32
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Phiraxinsanekane: to init level 3?12:32
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hunt0rinsanekane: hmm... If I go back to the settings where I can modify the schemes I check the chackbox by transperency correct? but If I go back to this setting tab after I click apply and closed the setings dialof Transperancy is not chacked anymore12:32
insanekanePhirax: did you try changing the runlevels ?12:32
insanekanePhirax: umm, let me check12:32
tucozPhirax, listen to insanekane. That is, press e or whatever in the grub screen to change runlevel.12:32
Phiraxinsanekane: well i don't have grub since i can't even install12:33
insanekanePhirax: use 1 (single user) just to be sure12:33
insanekanePhirax: uh ... what do you mean ? kubuntu install CD doesnt load up X as far as I know12:33
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Phiraxinsanekane: apparently it does for me12:34
insanekanePhirax: you might be talking about the live CD12:34
insanekanePhirax: if you are, then there should be a cheat code to load up vesa12:35
Phiraxinsanekane: oh i see, hmm, well the iso i have is "kubuntu-6.06-desktop-amd64.iso"12:35
angelHi u12:35
insanekanePhirax: ok, thats the live CD ... alternate is the install CD12:35
Phiraxinsanekane: ahh oh ok12:35
angeli juste say I try kunbutu   and i think is good12:36
Phiraxinsanekane: getting a tad confused, not used to how ubuntu does things12:36
insanekaneangel: cool :)12:36
Phiraxinsanekane: bit too used to redhat i expect12:36
insanekanePhirax: hehe, me too :) i rather liked it when it was "live CD"/"install CD" ..12:36
insanekanehunt0r: did you "Save as Default" ?12:37
Phiraxinsanekane: i think the server i got it off tricked me, i'm pretty sure it said it was a live/install iso, then again my isp is known for making stupid mistakes12:37
hunt0rinsanekane: yes :(12:37
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insanekanePhirax: well, the thing is, the "live CD" *is* the install CD now ...12:38
insanekanePhirax: they have an "alternate install" CD which does only installation (no live)12:38
insanekanehunt0r: well, are you using Konsole ?12:38
Phiraxinsanekane: ahh ok, so what is, kubuntu-6.06-dvd-amd64.iso ?12:39
Phiraxinsanekane: would that be an install one?12:40
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jujimufuwhen I do "apt-get install xserver-xorg-dev" I get this error : http://pastebin.ca/13598112:40
hunt0rinsanekane: and If I choose this color scheme again then it is not transparent anymore it seems like konsole is not saving the scheme correctly12:40
hunt0rinsanekane: but I don't know why the first tab is then transparent12:40
insanekanePhirax: uh ... where are you downloading this ?12:40
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insanekanehunt0r: the schema is set for each tab seperately12:41
Phiraxinsanekane: files.bigpond.com12:41
Phiraxinsanekane: its my isp's files area, so it doesn't count to me internet cap12:41
insanekanePhirax: is there some reason why you arent using the Kubuntu download location ?12:41
insanekanePhirax: ah ok :)12:41
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Phiraxinsanekane: i only get 10gbs so that can go really quick12:41
insanekanePhirax: yes i understand12:42
insanekanePhirax: that site loads real slow for me12:42
insanekanehunt0r: follow me ... you are using Konsole correct ?12:42
hunt0rinsanekane: yes12:43
insanekanehunt0r: ok, close all the tabs12:43
insanekanehunt0r: (only one will remain)12:43
hunt0rinsanekane: it is that bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/5299912:43
insanekanehunt0r: let me check12:44
Phiraxinsanekane: yeah well its local for me so i get 1000+kbps12:44
insanekanePhirax: oho ok12:44
hunt0rinsanekane: sry I can not explain that well in english ;)12:45
insanekanehunt0r: its ok :)12:45
insanekanehunt0r: where are you from ?12:46
hunt0rgermany12:46
insanekaneah ok12:46
insanekanePhirax: that site doest load up for me ...12:46
insanekanePhirax: see, even if you have a live CD, you can use it for installation12:47
hunt0rinsanekane: and this works for you wich version of konsole have you?12:47
insanekanePhirax: there is a GUI for installing it on the live CD12:47
insanekanehunt0r: 1.6.212:47
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hunt0rI have 1.6.412:48
Phiraxinsanekane: i think they block those who aren't with the isp, yeah that i figured but since the display goes can't do anything12:48
insanekanePhirax: what i suggest is that you look up the cheat codes and use vesa as you had read elsewhere12:48
Phiraxinsanekane: cheat codes?12:48
hunt0rinsanekane: I have the 3.5.4 packages installed but I had this bug also before the upgrade to the new kde12:48
insanekanehmm12:49
insanekanePhirax: yes, cheat codes ...12:49
insanekanePhirax: when you put the live CD in ... you can use the "help" option to see the cheat codes12:49
Phiraxinsanekane: ah ok cheers i'll have a go thanx12:50
insanekanePhirax: you may want to read up before you do that :)12:50
insanekanePhirax: the cheat codes docs are probably quite sparse12:50
Phiraxinsanekane: well i've just plug'd my laptop in so i can browse the web at the same time as fiddling with the install12:51
insanekanePhirax: ah cool :)12:52
insanekanehunt0r: wierd, it works for me here12:52
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hunt0rinsanekane: I remeber that I installed the "old" kubuntu and the umgraded to the 6.06 on my laptop and there it worked12:54
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west-eni've got midi problems, someone that can help me?12:54
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west-eni have tried many programs, but it doesen't work in any of them12:56
west-enwhen i for example try in kmid, i egt this error:12:56
west-en"/dev/sequencer"12:57
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Phirax_On_Laptopinsanekane: hi it me again, just wondering if you know how to force 'vesa' for my display adapter?12:58
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Phirax_On_Laptopinsanekane: i had a google but couldn't find anything12:59
insanekanePhirax_On_Laptop: :) thats what I was searching for a few minutes12:59
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insanekanePhirax_On_Laptop: didnt you see a help option in the grub screen/bootup screen ?01:00
Phirax_On_Laptopinsanekane: yeah but has no info about it, atleast that i can find01:00
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insanekanePhirax_On_Laptop: i'm looking01:02
west-enwhats your problem Phirax_On_Laptop?01:02
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Phirax_On_Laptopinsanekane: ok thanx, my laptop is a tad old takes 6months to open a webpage,01:03
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insanekanewest-en: he needs a boot option to change his display adapter to vesa01:03
west-enhmm, you can do that in kkontrol01:03
west-enkcontrol01:03
west-eni did that, but my boot option avs vesa and i changed it to ati01:04
Phirax_On_Laptopwest-en: well i got an ati radeon x850xt, and apparently there is a bug in the ait drivers, i can't do anything cos the screen just switches off when xorg tries to load01:04
west-enok!01:04
Phirax_On_Laptopwest-en: and i can't get into the console either01:04
west-enaha!01:04
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west-enhmm you apparently need to boot another system01:05
west-enand change xorg.conf in that system01:05
Phirax_On_Laptopwest-en: well thats the thing i can't even get to the install process01:05
Phirax_On_Laptopwest-en: so essentially i have no xorg file01:06
west-enwhat?? you should be able to boot from the cd!01:06
aliasfredPhirax_On_Laptop: there is a boot option about 'fb' as in framebuffer. look in this direction01:06
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aliasfredif you have trouble launching X, boot in 'safe mode' and modify the xorg conf with nano01:07
TheFuzzballhello, who can tell me how to install grub with /sbin/grub-install when I have 2 partitions?01:07
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insanekanealiasfred: could it be, fb=vesa ?01:07
Phirax_On_Laptopaliasfred: thats the problem i can't launch anything no x no console01:08
insanekanePhirax_On_Laptop: try fb=vesa01:08
aliasfredinsanekane: yep seems good :)01:08
Phirax_On_Laptopok will try01:08
TheFuzzballhello?01:08
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west-enmidi, anyone?01:09
frost_im having trouble with my Conceptronic C54RC wlan pcmcia card01:09
frost_it hangs up my system at boot01:09
west-enaha01:10
west-enrun nopcmcia as a boot option01:10
west-en"nopcmcia"01:10
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frost_but it used to work util yesterday01:10
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Phirax_On_Laptopok i just added 'fb=vesa' will that be right?01:10
frost_when i unplug the card evrything is fine01:10
west-enyes vut frost, I haved the sam problem a time ago, and i solved it with the boot option "nopcmcia"01:10
west-enok01:11
grothesk_How do I do a network restart when recovering from hibernate?01:11
west-enha01:11
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west-enstartx kcontrol01:11
west-enin the consol01:11
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west-enand go to network settings and inactivate your card01:11
west-enand activate it again01:11
pierciao01:11
Phirax_On_Laptophmm didn't work (fb=vesa) i prolly put it in the wrong place01:11
grothesk_west-en: Do you talk to me?01:11
west-enyes01:12
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waspiushello...anyone know how i can make my trash icon change when it is full?01:12
grothesk_I want it to get up on it's own.01:12
west-eni try to help others, but i need help myself with midi01:12
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west-enwaspius: change icon set in kcontrol01:12
waspiuswest-en: i have many times but no difference01:13
west-endownlaod more sets?01:13
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grothesk_Network ist up when hibernating, but connection is lost when waking up again. Now I want a '/etc/init.de/networking restart' to be executed.01:13
tari_does any one here know how to get amorok to play mp3's and mp4's01:13
TheFuzzballhello, who can tell me how to install grub with /sbin/grub-install when I have 2 partitions?01:13
grothesk_tari_: Install xine and use amarok-xine01:14
west-entari: dont use amarok01:14
insanekane!tell tari_ about RestrictedFormats01:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about RestrictedFormats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:14
west-enit isn't a good player01:14
insanekane!tell tari_ about mp301:14
tari_sets01:14
tari_where do I download sets01:14
west-entry vlc, or mplayer instead01:14
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waspiusanyone?01:14
west-enhmm what do you mean by "full"?01:14
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insanekanewest-en: hehe :)01:14
grothesk_vlc or mplayer are good video players but no audioplayer...01:14
west-enyes01:15
insanekane!codecs01:15
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:15
waspiuswest-en: when it is empty it shows empty..when it is full it still shows empty01:15
west-enyou can play music excellent in both mplayer and vlc01:15
insanekane!tell tari_ about codecs01:15
west-enI use them to mp3:s01:15
hunt0rwest-en: you are joking or?01:15
west-enWhat? no?01:15
west-enwhy should i joke?01:15
insanekanetari_: what you need to do is get the right codecs01:15
Dimon08!01:16
Dimon08!help01:16
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage01:16
tari_yeah ok cool I understand but from where I have a ipod all my songs played in itunes now I need to use amork and I can;t why not01:17
west-enokok but please can someone help me with midi?01:17
insanekanetari_: its because you dont have the right codecs01:17
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insanekanetari_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:19
insanekanetari_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats01:19
insanekanePhirax_On_Laptop: try video=vesa01:20
waspiusanyone know how i can make all my keyboard keys to work??01:21
west-enchange keyboard layout?01:22
west-enwhich contry?01:22
waspiuswest-en: i am using a laptop and i have extra keys01:22
west-enaha you mean like that!01:22
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insanekanemaybe lineak01:22
west-eni am using a laptop to, but i never use the special keys01:23
waspiuswest-en: mmm is there though no way to fix it?01:23
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west-eni don't know01:23
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jottwaspius: easy way: check if you find a compatible keyboard layout01:24
jottwaspius: hard way: use xev and find out your keys and make your own01:24
waspiuswest-en: do u know how i can make shortcuts to programs then..ie make f1 open xmms?01:24
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waspiusjott: if i search for a compatible keyboard layout where will i look for it?and i i choose the hard way can i find some guidance somewhere?01:25
jottwaspius: well how many special keys you have got?01:25
tari_why can I play mp3's in xmms but not in amarok  then01:25
Phirax_On_Laptopyeah still no go01:26
jotttari_: install libxine-extracodecs from multiverse...01:26
waspiusjott: 801:26
Phirax_On_Laptopi guess there is no way around it01:26
jottwaspius: check system settings -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard layout01:26
Phirax_On_Laptophehe it so typical i have the one ati card type that has problems in linux01:26
jottwaspius: you may want to try out a keybord model like "internet keyboard" or logitech..... if you can't find your own..01:27
waspiusjott: ok i will check thanx01:27
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Emessgoddamn mofo wine :(01:28
Emessgives LOTS fo errors when running photoshop 7 :(01:28
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tari_thx jott01:30
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RawSewageDid the fonts change?01:34
RawSewageMy fonts changed01:34
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kbrooksHi all.01:37
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RawSewageDid anyone's fonts change?01:37
Emesswhat fonts?01:38
Phirax_On_Laptop??01:38
Phirax_On_Laptopnot sure you can change our fonts01:38
Phirax_On_Laptopit would be silly01:38
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RawSewagemy system fonts01:39
RawSewagethey got sort of fuzzy01:39
kbrooksPhirax_On_Laptop: you can.01:39
Phirax_On_Laptopchange the fonts on mine? how so?01:40
kbrooksPhirax_On_Laptop: its all customixable01:40
kbrooksnot locked in01:40
Phirax_On_Laptopi'm confussed :O01:41
kbrooksPhirax_On_Laptop:  don't know how, but i can guess a use: "i cant see the fonts"01:41
XVampireXHEY01:41
XVampireXSpeaking of fonts01:41
XVampireXSomeone tell me a good SMOOTH font to use?01:41
Phirax_On_LaptopMS Sans if :P01:41
kbrooksPhirax_On_Laptop: I repeat: it is very logical to change fonts.01:42
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jujimufuwhat is the package for the linux kernel sources?01:42
Phirax_On_Laptopkbrooks: i got the idea he/she was trying to change the font in irc01:42
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Phirax_On_Laptopkbrooks: i was tripping out thats all01:43
Phirax_On_Laptopto many drinks i guess01:43
Phirax_On_Laptop:P01:43
Kiongkujujimufu: what u mean.. the one coming with kubuntu?01:44
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jujimufuKiongku: I want to build a new kernel. What packages do I need to download?01:45
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Kiongkujujimufu: go search on the forums.. u'll find everything u need to know01:47
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anssi_!kubuntu01:48
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. To downgrade your version of kubuntu to an older version see: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=609.001:48
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Dimon08!linux01:48
ubotulinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux01:48
Dimon08!unix01:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about unix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:48
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kbrooksDimon08: Dont abuse Ubotu01:48
Dimon08:)01:48
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anssi_i did install kubuntu again cause i wont get it working no matter what i do01:50
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Phirax_On_Laptopanssi_: atleast you can get it to install, i'm failing that part :P01:51
kbrooksanssi_: maybe i can boot back into it :p01:51
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anssi_i tried 2 times now first time internet did not work01:52
anssi_then it worked on the second time01:52
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anssi_!kubuntu guide01:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu guide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:53
kbrooksanssi_: there's none.01:53
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anssi_i think im going to go mad with this ...i never will get java or flash working...tried many different sources lists ...and syill no!01:54
XVampireXCan anyone help me?01:54
anssi_hello kbrooks01:55
XVampireXNot really a problem, but rather for the sake of customization01:55
tsdgeosXVampireX: first you'll have to ask the question01:55
GameXdo you want to have java?01:55
XVampireXI need some smooth fonts to use01:55
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XVampireXAnd I'd like to know if there's a good editor in KDE/kubuntu that has tabbed view01:55
XVampireXSimilar to how gedit handles tabs01:55
anssi_i want java and flash and a working sources list..cause i have a clean installation now01:56
RawSewagewhy did my fonts get like this all of a sudden?01:56
GameXok01:56
GameXlisten01:56
XVampireXSo anyone knows?01:56
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waspiusthis http://rick.vanrein.org/linux/funkey/ is a page i found that tells you how to configure the rest of your keys on your keyboard..i hope it helps01:56
tsdgeosXVampireX: kate has a nice multidocument view that i like01:56
GameXgo to k menu->ad/remove programs01:56
tsdgeosbut don't know if it is similar to gedit as never used it01:56
Emessanyoen know what fiel extension wine themes need?01:56
XVampireXI don't like kate multidocument, it's good for MANY files, but not for what I need01:57
anssi_im there01:57
GameXok01:57
RawSewagetry KWrite01:57
Emesspico01:57
GameXthen type in search:java01:57
anssi_no result01:57
GameXwait01:57
EmessXVampireX: open up a terminal, naviagte to teh fiel you want, type pico filename.extension01:58
XVampireXpico01:58
anssi_i think i need to enable repositories first01:58
Emessthen down teh bottom it tells you the commands01:58
XVampireXhmm01:58
kbrooksEmess: no pico01:58
Emessno pico? what os?01:58
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Emesseverything but slackware and bsd has pico01:58
kbrooksXVampireX: pico was removed from debian, nonfree01:58
XVampireXI don't want pico01:58
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Emessheh, use vi then01:58
Emessor nano01:58
GameXmake sure unsupported and proprietary software is selected01:59
XVampireXI want tabbed like gedit01:59
XVampireXAnd graphical01:59
kbrooksEmess: the actual pico01:59
anssi_a working sources list would be nice...one that would let me install java and flashplugin01:59
RawSewagetry KWrite01:59
kbrooksEmess: pico is linked to nano here01:59
GameXand KDE must be any suite01:59
XVampireXI tried kwrite, looks like it opens up new documents in new windows01:59
anssi_no result01:59
GameXthen search for java01:59
nagyvHow could I find out wheather I use arts or alsa? I would like to set up Skype the best possible way. I have already read about dsp_hijacker, but now found a forum (http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=48195) and also a possible kopete integration with a different tip (http://extragear.kde.org/apps/kopete%20skype/)02:00
RawSewageXVampireX, it's all configurable02:00
GameXif no result you must start adept02:00
GameXk menu ->system->adept02:00
XVampireXI'm gonna try KWrite configuration02:00
anssi_it shows java web start but wont let me install02:00
GameX?02:01
GameXmaybe you must enable the univerese multiverse repositories02:01
anssi_yeah i do02:01
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anssi_a working sources list would be nice02:02
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nagyvanssi_: did you slept last night? When I left 6 hours ago, you were here for at least 3-4 hours. (surprised) I hope everything will be fine soon! :)02:02
NDPTAL8522,000 Indiana Students using Linux laptops: http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/breakingnews.jhtml?articleId=19220138602:03
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Emessanssi_: whats the problem?02:04
anssi_just a moment....02:04
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kbrooksXVampireX: PM me please02:06
kbrooksXVampireX: or try to02:06
XVampireXI am02:06
anssi_im just a linux noob who cant do anything right...but soon i will have multiverse repos enabled02:07
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Tm_T!repositories02:08
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource02:08
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Tm_Tanssi_: see those02:08
Tm_Terr, look (and you will see) =)02:08
Tm_Tanssi_: btw02:08
Tm_T!fi02:08
ubotuSuomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi02:08
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Emessbrb02:09
anssi_now i can install jaca on add remove programs02:09
anssi_ubotu speaks finnish???02:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about speaks finnish??? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:10
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anssi_sorry ubotu02:11
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waspiusonce you add new fonts how do u save them?02:13
anssi_kubunti.fi is quiet you can hear only your own "voice"02:14
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anssi_but now i got adept loading java : )02:15
Tm_Tgood02:16
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guillehi?02:16
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cosmahello all, problem: I have a partition automounted with fstab, but cannot set its access rights in order to have my normal usuale write on it (always need to "kdesu konqueror").. how can I set it right? tnx02:17
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Dimon08cosma, u use kubuntu?02:19
anssi_only 2 things to do after that...install flash and codecs..dont need anything else02:19
cosmayes Dimon0802:20
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Dimon08u should edit ya partiotion owner uid and guid; u may manually edit fstab or02:21
anssi_tim_t u are finn i see02:21
Dimon08if u re under kubuntu02:21
Dimon08go to the System Settings02:21
Dimon08there is an option for partitions02:21
cosmaOk, found02:21
Dimon08then click on Administrator mode02:21
Dimon08enter password02:21
cosmadone02:21
guillei'm having a problem installing vmplayer with the adept manager , when I get to accept de EULA license I cannot click on "ok". Does anyone knows how to solve this?02:21
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larson9999cosma: anyone stay in #mandriva?02:22
Dimon08and now u may edit partitions click on Edit02:22
Dimon08button02:22
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Dimon08and change owner there02:22
Dimon08to your user02:22
anssi_hello larson999902:22
Dimon08then disable and enable partition again02:22
larson9999anssi_: you're still her?  logged in using your windows box?02:22
larson9999:)02:22
Dimon08that's it02:23
anssi_no kubuntu02:23
larson9999anssi_: sweet02:23
cosmathe only settings I see that seems related is the "mount permission", are you talking about that?02:23
anssi_i still have windows02:23
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Dimon08cosma I think yes, I'm under windows at the moment02:23
anssi_and wont get rid of it untill i find out more about kubuntu02:24
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cosmaI changed it from "one user at a time can enabled/disable" to "any user may enable/disable"02:24
larson9999anssi_: how are things going?02:24
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anssi_just got java installing from adept02:24
Dimon08well there should be other settings02:24
anssi_had to install kubuntu again02:24
larson9999cosma: click advanced02:24
larson9999anssi_: how many times now?02:25
anssi_but now i made a bacup of my new system with keep02:25
anssi_i think 4 -5 in last 24 hours02:25
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larson9999anssi_: never heard of keep.  but then i back things up with gparted02:25
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larson9999anssi_: that's good practice but i'm guessing most of your problems really wouldn't require i reinstall02:26
anssi_so you dont use kubuntu02:26
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cosmacrashed Konversation :)02:26
cosmaok, I found the advanced button02:26
larson9999anssi_: who doesn't use kubuntu?02:26
anssi_but im a "noob" in linux02:27
anssi_you larson02:27
larson9999anssi_: i do use kubuntu for about a month or so now.02:27
anssi_if you have never heard of keep02:27
anssi_theres a keep program in the menu and it says backup system02:28
cosmaAllow the SUID and SGID attributes have to be enabled?02:28
larson9999anssi_: well there are lots of things i never heard of.  and since i have a backup solution i may have seen it but not paid attention02:28
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Dimon08cosma no u don't need them02:29
larson9999anssi_: yep.  there it is02:29
cosmaok02:29
Dimon08cosma, just change user from root to yours02:29
cosmaI don't see any "user" field...02:29
anssi_now it has downloaded java but wont start to install it02:29
anssi_preparing..for a minut or so now02:30
larson9999anssi_: want my advice?  you don't have to take it but since you seem determined to get into linux i think it would help you.02:30
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anssi_tell me02:31
Dimon08cosma, sorry I don't have kubuntu here:) try asking someone else:)02:31
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cosmathank you anyway Dimom :)02:31
anssi_adept stopped working suddenly or it halted02:32
larson9999anssi_: read 2 tutorials at least through beginning chapters.  1. on the *nix command line.  2.  on the destktop or window manager you decided to use most.02:32
anssi_okay02:32
Dimon08cosma np:)02:32
anssi_what the... why dont it install now02:33
Dimon08anssi_, btw what hardware do u have?  why so many problems?:)02:34
larson9999cosma: there is no use in that dialogu.  there is a place for options though.  aren't you an old nick i've seen in chat rooms for a while now?02:34
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anssi_i hawe athlon 64 300+ and asus A8N-E motherboard02:34
anssi_and i have 64 bit kubuntu02:35
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jottanssi_: adept is broken when userinteraction takes place.. see known problems...02:35
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Dimon08anssi_, and it won't get installed:)?02:35
jottanssi_: either try to click on details and confirm (will probably not work)02:35
jottanssi_: or use command line..02:35
anssi_so what do i do now it has stopped02:36
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jottanssi_: or try to install "libqt-perl" then do "dpkg-reconfigure debconf" and choose kde..02:36
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anssi_i had to accept the licence...stupid me!!!02:36
Tm_T:p02:36
cosmalarson9999, I've been in chat rooms, maybe in the #gentoo ones before I switched to kubuntu :)02:37
anssi_okay now it started to install java wuhuu!!!02:37
larson9999cosma: i think i'm thinking of another nick maybe cosmi or cosmo02:37
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cosmalarson9999, i tried to remove the "defaults" option (that include nousers) and explicitly add users and rw options, but no luck..02:37
cosmalarson9999: probably :)02:38
larson9999anssi_: oh 64 bit.  that could have it's own issues.  i haven't ventured there yet02:38
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larson9999anssi_: but i hear tell there are somethings for which a 64 bit version doesn't exist.  and it happens that flash and media codecs are on the list.  aren't those things you were having problems with?  now i dont' run 64 bit so i'm speaking a bit out of turn.02:39
anssi_i thoght that the 64 bit system would suit my harware02:39
anssi_yeah02:40
larson9999cosma: so when it mounts, you don't have read/write access?02:40
larson9999cosma: what kind of media?02:40
cosmalarson9999: not with my normal user, its a normal hard disk partition02:41
larson9999anssi_: it would suite your hardware but from what i've heard, it's probably not ready for the newbie.02:41
cosmalarson9999: I'm trying to also check access rights in the mount point folder02:41
anssi_okay maybe i should switch to ubuntu 32 bit cause i have that too02:42
larson9999cosma: that's was i was going to recommend, umount the drive, and change permissions on the mount folder02:42
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larson9999anyone here using 64 bit want to chime in on whether it's 'newbie ready'?02:42
Shan_what does it mean when a clamscan of my windows partition gices me a Broken PE Header" error/02:42
Shan_?02:42
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Shan_what does it mean when a clamscan of my windows partition gices me a "Broken PE Header" error?02:43
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Shan_anyone?02:43
cosmalarson9999: ok, now it works :) thank you very much... I had already tried that, but always when the fs was mounted02:43
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larson9999cosma: yeah, you have to umount it first.  since we're here NEVER fsck a mounted drive.02:44
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cosmalarson9999: ok, thanks for the tip02:45
Shan_:/02:45
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[GuS] Hello!!!02:46
[GuS] i have a question...02:46
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[GuS] I have here Kubuntu dapper 64... and for some reason or some upgrade/update... the fonts of some apps (like adept, add/remove programs, firestarter and so on) has no antialiasing02:47
[GuS] and this, does not happen in the 32 bits edition02:47
waspiusanyone know to to setup dcgui?02:48
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[GuS] never mind... i've fixed...02:50
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larson9999how can you tell if your fonts  are anti aliased?02:50
nick_do sombody know a good ( ?popup free?) free php webhosting?02:51
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kbrookshow isnt 64bit ready for a newbie on Ubuntu02:52
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Hawkwindabattoir: Good morning02:58
abattoirhi Hawkwind :)02:58
Hawkwindabattoir: You're here earlier than normal.  You must off of work or something02:59
Tm_Tnah, he's one of those workhourcheaters03:01
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Tm_T"I have to do one taks in home" and he goes to closest bar to get some beer03:01
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Tm_Terr, task even03:02
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abattoirhaha, LOL03:03
Tm_TI know that type ;)03:04
abattoirHawkwind: just woke up ;) ... and i have no fixed times till college begins03:04
abattoirTm_T: i think i know why :P03:04
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abattoirTm_T: your boss has come home to check up on you? :P03:05
Tm_Tabattoir: I don't have a job (I wonder why)03:05
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Tm_Thi Hobbsee :)03:05
abattoirTm_T: you're too cool for one :)03:05
abattoirHobbsee: hello :)03:05
Tm_Tabattoir: must be :p03:06
Hobbseehi Tm_T, abattoir03:06
HawkwindHobbsee: Good morning(my time in the world) so good evening to you03:06
Hobbseehi Hawkwind03:06
Hobbsee:)03:06
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dooglusI can "sudo" and "gksu", but "kdesu" always tells me I typed the wrong password.  What's wrong?03:09
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abattoirdooglus: any other error message?03:13
iberthi! does anyone know a tool, to create ASCII-Escaped Unicode text-files like it is possible with ultraedit on Windows?03:13
dooglusabattoir: no03:13
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abattoirdooglus: and what application are you trying to launch?(adept?)03:14
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dooglusabattoir: slight correction:  I can use sudo and gksudo, but gksu and kdesu both fail with "incorrect password... try again"03:14
dooglusabattoir: xclock03:14
nagyvI would like to install the skype addon for kopete. On its site it is written to install it under the addons directory, but I don't know where it is. Any ideas to find it?03:15
intelikeyxdm question, xdm wont allow user to login who has no password.   where/how can this be changed ?03:16
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intelikeynagyv cli    find / -type d -name '*addon*'03:16
abattoirdooglus: have you tried some other application(s)? do you get the same error?03:17
abattoirnagyv: also, i think you'd need to downgrade your dbus version, for it to work properly03:17
dooglusabattoir: yes.  it also says "Sorry" and "sn_launcher_context_initiate called twice for the same SnLaunchContext" in the terminal03:18
nagyvabattoir: hmm, this sounds badly :(03:18
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dooglusgksu and gksudo are the same program.  I don't understand why one works and the other doesn't03:18
Jucatogksu and gksudo are actually not the same, iirc03:19
dooglus/usr/bin/gksudo -> gksu03:19
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dooglusit's a symlink03:19
intelikeylike bash & sh03:19
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intelikeysh is a symlink but they are not the same.03:20
dooglus/bin/sh -> dash03:20
dooglussh is a symlink to dash, not bash03:20
h3sp4wnOnly in edgy03:20
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intelikeyonly if you choose that03:21
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dooglushow do sh and bash differ?03:21
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intelikeybut the point is the name of the file called affects the behaviour of the file03:21
intelikeydooglus type sh and see03:22
Jucato @_@03:22
dooglusintelikey: only if the program was designed that way - and if so, it should be documented03:22
Jucatosorry, didn't mean to raise a different issue...03:22
reagleBRKLNug, just updated and my fonts look like crud now03:22
h3sp4wnYou can still use bashism's when bash is launched as /bin/sh03:22
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JucatoreagleBRKLN: try setting up the fonts again in System Settings03:23
intelikeyfor bash/sh it is.   i haven't checked gksu    but you want a better example  look at halt reboot  in /sbin03:23
Jucatohttp://www.penguin-soft.com/penguin/man/1/gksu.html - gksu is a frontend to su and gksudo is a frontend to sudo.03:23
intelikeyh3sp4wn heh actually you are using sh'ism in bash  :)03:24
JucatoI guess you could check the man pages for gksu. I can't coz I don't have it installed03:24
reagleBRKLNJucato: what do you mean, setting up again?03:24
dooglusthe "bash" man page says "If bash is invoked with the name sh, it ..." - ie. it documents the difference.  I don't see this in the gksu man page03:24
reagleBRKLNthe fonts still look cruddy in the choose selector03:24
JucatoreagleBRKLN: err.. sorry. I meant, try unchecking, then checking again the anti-aliasing option in System Settings > Appearance > Fonts03:25
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Jucatoso I installed gksu just to check... @_@03:26
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Jucatothe man page says: gksu is a frontend to su and gksudo is a frontend to sudo.03:27
dooglusok - so if I set a root password, gksu works.03:28
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doogluswhen I click on the 'update notified' in the notification area, it seems to be using gksu03:29
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dooglusJucato: my man page for gksu doesn't say that at all03:30
ChuckIve got a problem: Openoffice shows everything in greek font, and if its opened kopete shows the baloon tip even in the same layout, does anybody knows?03:30
Jucatodooglus: really? that's strange...03:30
reagleBRKLNhrmm... gonna restart kde and see if that helps the fonts. brb.03:30
ChuckI did, but it did not help, I ran through a Version of Dicoo and changed the regional settings, but did not help-03:31
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intelikeymine doesn't either.  i have no man on gksu  :)03:32
Jucato @_@03:32
Jucatowhere on earth did I get that...03:33
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intelikeyJucato from the man pages i guess03:33
Jucatointelikey: you wouldn't have the gksu man if you don't have gksu installed...03:33
dooglusJucato: you found it on the web?03:33
reagleBRKLNwoe is me, fonts are still ghastly03:33
intelikeyi don't have gk squat   so i didn't expect a man page03:33
Jucatothat's why I had to install gksu, to confirm what that web page was saying03:33
reagleBRKLNis there a way to figure which packages changed in the last day, so I know what to revert?03:34
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JucatoreagleBRKLN: you upgraded to KDE 3.5.4?03:34
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reagleBRKLNyes, been using 3.5.4 for a bit now, but the fonts package upate was this morning03:34
Chuckyeah, maybe, but I got a 56k modem03:34
Jucatohm... I didn't get any font package update...03:34
dooglusreagleBRKLN: I run this to see a list of changed packages:    zgrep -h -E -e " (installed|remove) $arg " /var/log/*dpkg.log* | sort | less03:35
Chuckand that would be a loong night.03:35
dooglusreagleBRKLN: (where $arg is '.*' if I want all packages)03:35
Chuckk03:35
ChuckI check...03:35
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Chucknope...03:35
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reagleBRKLNdooglus: awesome!03:36
reagleBRKLNJucato: 2006-08-17 09:16:55 status installed libfreetype6 2.2.1-0ubuntu103:36
abattoirreagleBRKLN: edgy?03:37
red_can anyone help fix my problem with apt-get install? this is my problem: http://pastebin.ca/13614803:37
Hawkwindred_: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox03:37
reagleBRKLNah.. this is probably the culprit03:37
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JucatoHawkwind: isn't it just "firefox" ??03:37
reagleBRKLN*** 2.2.1-0ubuntu1 003:38
reagleBRKLN        500 http://xgl.compiz.info dapper/main Packages03:38
reagleBRKLN        500 http://www.beerorkid.com dapper/main Packages03:38
reagleBRKLN        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status03:38
HawkwindJucato: 'firefox' should work too, but here as of late it's been giving everyone that error that red_ just got03:38
reagleBRKLNI once used ANYkeyOptimizer/ and it added those sources03:38
abattoirred_: you have main enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list?03:38
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red_Hawkwind: that didn't work either03:38
intelikeyxdm question, xdm wont allow user to login who has no password.   where/how can this be changed ?03:38
JucatoHawkwind: and it has nothing to do with repositories?03:38
dooglusreagleBRKLN: I have these lines in my ~/.bashrc: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/wheninst.txt03:38
Hawkwindred_: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox libnss303:38
red_abattoir: i had whatever was on there by default, that didn't work - someone helped me with this problem and i did the same changes to source.list as i did on the other computer, and it worked03:39
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red_Hawkwind: that didn't work, either03:39
Gh0st75how do i do a backup of my Kubuntu so i won't mess it up? I've got just about everything working that i need to, afraid i'll have to do it all again if i try anything new03:39
Hawkwindred_: Can you pastebin your sources.list then please03:40
red_Hawkwind: sure03:40
HawkwindGh0st75: There are many different ways03:40
HawkwindGh0st75: I have a bash script that just uses tar to tar up certain directories.  Makes it quick and simple03:40
Gh0st75no data on the ext3 drive, all data is on my fat32 drive, just don't want to have to download all the packages again with my slow conx03:40
reagleBRKLNdooglus: is that bash?03:40
HawkwindreagleBRKLN: Yes03:40
HawkwindreagleBRKLN: That's why it's in the .bashrc file :P03:41
red_Hawkwind: http://pastebin.ca/13615003:41
Gh0st75quick and simple is good03:41
dooglusreagleBRKLN: tes03:41
dooglusreagleBRKLN: yes03:41
Jucatostrange... the sources.list seems fine03:41
Hawkwindred_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox03:42
Jucatooh03:42
Jucatowait03:42
intelikeyGh0st75 you can save your downloaded packages. (/var/cache/apt/archives/*) to what ever media, then if you reinstall copy them back to /var/cache/apt/archives and you wont have to dl them again.03:42
JucatoHawkwind: is it possible that the proble is that the dapper-security repos are disabled?03:42
Gh0st75ooh, that's useful to know03:43
Gh0st75thanks for the tip03:43
JucatoAFAIK, the latest Firefox versions are in dapper-security03:43
Gh0st75good for if i go somewhere and want to do an offline install03:43
intelikeyGh0st75 np.   i'm on dialup i know how that is.03:43
red_Hawkwind: it's working on updates now, good sign?03:43
Gh0st75i've got a 140k conx, not much better03:43
Gh0st75had a 5mb conx but tryin to cut some bills down a bit03:44
HawkwindJucato: Even so, it should install an older version if it didn't pull the newest from the dapper-security repo03:44
Hawkwindred_: Possibly03:44
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JucatoHawkwind: you're right. so it is strange that he couldn't install firefox...03:45
intelikeyso nobady knows where xdm can be set to allow passwordless login ?03:45
red_Hawkwind: ok, firefox is installing, tyvm03:45
Jucatokool! it was as simple as 'sudo apt-get update' :-D03:46
red_so now does apt-get work by reading a local repo list?03:46
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intelikeyyep03:46
red_i'm used to rhel, yum, which will look on the servers every time i tell it to install03:46
Jucatored_: everytime you make changes to sources.list, you have to do a 'sudo apt-get update'03:47
red_oh ok, so it was a broken sources.list again03:47
red_i didn't remember updating on the first machine03:47
red_makes sense though03:47
intelikeylist and database    change the list update the db03:47
Hawkwindred_: No problem.  You just always should remember to do 'sudo apt-get update' ever so often so that you get the latest list of packages in the repos03:47
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red_Hawkwind: will do03:48
Jucatored_: well, apt-get does search the servers when you want to install something. but without a sources.list, or without updating, it won't know which repositories to look into03:48
larson9999red_: you can tell yum to you cach.  but yum is slow freakin slow.  i have fc5 on my son's machine now.  yum is ok functionality wise but it is so slow.  i'm thinking of putting apt on it instead of yum03:48
Gh0st75256mb total of packages in the archives folder, backin that up to my fat32 Backup drive as a zip file03:48
Hawkwindcannonball: Good morning :P03:48
larson9999s/to you/to use/03:48
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cannonballHawkwind: heh, good morning.  I just installed to see what all the fuss is about.  Very slick so far.03:48
Hawkwindcannonball: Awesome.  Welcome aboard and if you need help, this is certainly the place or a majority of us in #LFD have switched over too as you know03:49
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Gh0st75Hawkwind: what directories should i back up to be able to recover my current Kubuntu state/settings?03:49
intelikeyJucato i take occasion with that.  apt will not search any server unless the database tells it there is a package matching that name in 'url'03:49
larson9999Hawkwind: is anyone left in #mandriva?03:49
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HawkwindGh0st75: I backup /etc /home and a couple other personal partitions.  It's really all up to you but /etc and /home contain a majority of all your config files03:50
red_is there an apt-get for mozilla flash?03:50
Hawkwind!flash > red_03:50
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Jucatointelikey: oh, sorry. I'll try to be more careful in giving inaccurate info...03:50
Gh0st75great, i can just use Keep to do that too right?03:50
Hawkwindlarson9999: There are a few left at the moment.  But they'll learn soon enough where their bread is buttered and make the switch :P03:50
larson9999lol03:51
cannonballHawkwind: The most impressive for me was that it found the 802.11g card (Proxim) and set it all up.03:51
intelikeyJucato now lets not start that again.03:51
Hawkwindcannonball: Very nice03:51
cannonballHawkwind: I think I'll convert this box eventually, we'll see how it handles an ATI 9800 Pro with dual head.03:51
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Hawkwindcannonball: I'm so happy with my switch over to *Ubuntu.  I wish I had done it a lot sooner than I did(June 1st, 2006)03:52
Gh0st75never heard much about mandrivia, figure eventually, i'll set up another partition to mess around with Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Fluxbox, or Gentoo03:52
larson9999Hawkwind: i only gave ubuntu a try because i liked the idea of a company who'd ship a free cd.  but i'm also trying fc5 and will likely use centos since i'm hoping to get a gig on rhel.03:52
Jucatointelikey: no really... I should be more careful. I tend to do these things so I really should watch it. don't want to be sued. ehehe03:52
JucatoHawkwind: what's LFD?03:52
Gh0st75so far i'm really liking Kubuntu tho03:52
cannonballHawkwind: if suspend works like it did with my coworker's box, then that means my laptop becomes useful for me.03:52
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HawkwindJucato: It's my channel here on Freenode that corresponds with my http://LinuxForDummies.org/ domain.  It's a general Linux help channel03:53
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Jucatooh kool03:53
intelikeyJucato sounds like lsd with a lisp   ;/03:53
Jucatolol03:53
granbarHey. Do any of you guys know anything about shotguns?03:53
Hawkwindgranbar: Kind of offtopic for this channel I'd say :P03:53
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Gh0st75ooh, another link for me to read at work, thanks Hawkwind03:54
HawkwindGh0st75: Heh, no problem03:54
larson9999granbar: as in weddings?03:54
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HawkwindGh0st75: I've got Ubuntu and Kubuntu sections there.  They are becoming more active now that I've been using the distro for a bit03:54
red_tyvm guys03:54
intelikeygranbar "anything" is pretty broad.   might be better to ask the question and then be griped at for being off topic... :)03:54
granbarHawkwind: Sorry about that :P. I'm just having some trouble with my shotgun.03:55
Gh0st75great, i notice there's no shortage of ubuntu information, nice to see a bit more kubuntu specific stuff03:55
Hawkwindgranbar: Might ask in #Kubuntu-OffTopic then03:55
granbarintelikey:hehe03:55
Hawkwindgranbar: Many of the users from this channel are there I'm sure03:55
larson9999granbar: you aren't drinking a beer and thinking about saying anything that starts with, "earl, hold my beer and watch this." are you?03:55
JucatoHawkwind: actually, not that many :-D03:55
granbarthanks, Hawkwind :P03:55
granbarlarson9999: Luckily no hehe03:56
intelikeylarson9999 lol03:56
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Jucatoonly 22 users :-D03:56
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intelikeymaybe someone should start an official channel for fire arms03:57
HawkwindJucato: Ahh.  Figured there would be more there.  I've never been there so I was assuming03:57
intelikeyjat03:57
larson9999intelikey: i'm sure there are many such channels03:57
Jucatolol03:57
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intelikeysure or guessing ?03:57
larson9999intelikey: pretty sure.03:58
Kiongkuyo.. kopete crashes.. with the signal 1103:58
tkthat means "i guess" doesnt it? :P03:58
larson9999tk: i'm sure it does03:58
intelikeytk i presume03:58
Jucatoerr... would any of you guys know if K3b could continue a CD multisession that was started in Nero (Windows XP)03:58
Kiongkuguys. Do ur koepet works?03:58
larson9999:)'03:58
Kiongku*Kopete03:58
tkheh03:58
tkI had to switch to kopete because GAIM was being wonky.... so yes, it works :)03:59
JucatoKiongku: yeah. what protocol are you trying to use?03:59
Hawkwindlarson9999: According to the channel lists, there are no channels about firearms03:59
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tkJucato: sessions should be sessions, regardless of OS/app used03:59
abattoirJucato: should work... they all follow ISO standards... havent tried it though03:59
KiongkuJucato: protocol?.. msn04:00
intelikeyhmmmm wonder if i couldn't do something like   /list > freenode      to generate a list of channels ?04:00
Hawkwindabattoir: MS followed a standard at some point ?04:00
Jucatostrange... I can't seem to make it work in K3b. it's complaining that the ... err... I forgot the error message... let me try that again04:00
HawkwindHeh04:00
larson9999hawkwind they are disguising their name to hide from 'the man'04:00
abattoirHawkwind: well, Nero isnt owned by MS(last i knew)... and didnt they license technology for windows xp(for burning) rather than make their own? ;)04:01
Jucatothere are IRC channels for guns. they just aren't in freenode, so you won't see them04:01
Hawkwindabattoir: Good point. No wonder things are right :)04:01
KiongkuJucato: btw what IM do u use?04:01
larson9999i thought i saw nero for linux.  maybe not04:01
JucatoKiongku: Kopete, but I don't use the MSN protocol. no one there to talk too. :-D04:01
Gh0st75yes, there is a nero for linux04:02
Hawkwindlarson9999: Nero is for linux, but it's horribly coded and doesn't work very well, and is horribly slow from what everyone reports04:02
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KiongkuJucato: damn my kopete crashes.. know how to change its protocol without runnign it?04:02
rolandohello04:02
intelikeylinux negro ?04:02
larson9999http://www.nero.com/en/NeroLINUX.html04:02
intelikeys/g//04:02
Gh0st75i love the little tune K3B plays at the end of a burning session, lol04:03
rolandohow can i find a package for a c to MIPS cross compiler?04:03
Jucatoer.. so basically, in K3b, if I want to continue on a multisession CD, I just need to do a "New Data CD Project" then select continue multisession?04:03
Hawkwindintelikey: Yes.  Nero for linux has been out for a year or more now04:03
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rolandoin the repositories i have i dont have such a thing, is there a place with specific packages like this one?04:03
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JucatoKiongku: unfortunately, no. So kopete crashes even when you just start it up?04:03
larson9999Hawkwind: yeah but i figured if k3b wouldn't work, then nero for linux would.  if there is some burning need.04:03
KiongkuJucato: ya.. open 2 secs then crash04:03
JucatoKiongku: what was the last thing you did before it started behaving like this?04:04
larson9999 Hawkwind or 'might' since it is still nero.  seems like you might as well copy it in k3b though04:04
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Jucatogreat, it complains that I need to use an appendable medium04:05
larson9999Hawkwind: is your system amd64?04:05
HawkwindKiongku: You could always do this: mv ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete-old   Then try starting kopete04:05
Jucatonow I have to reboot into Windows just to do this....04:05
Hawkwindlarson9999: Nope.04:05
KiongkuJucato: Ehrm enter msn.. closed.. then i tried aMSN.. its the 1st time i'm opening it again after that04:05
maltaethironhey guys, i want to burn an iso to a disc, what program to i use?04:06
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Jucatomaltaethiron: K3b04:06
Hawkwindmaltaethiron: k3b04:06
KiongkuHawkwind: ya.04:06
maltaethironty04:06
Jucatowhat a coincidence. K3b again...04:06
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rolandoanyone has tried to install gcc-mips or something like that, cross compiler?04:06
Jucatogrr... have to reboot...04:07
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KiongkuHawkwind: great.. what u did is remove the old config?04:07
rolandocuz i need to compile nachos04:07
larson9999Hawkwind: i bought a new system that is and was wondering if the 64 bit was ready for dummies like me.04:07
KiongkuHawkwind: no more crash04:07
HawkwindKiongku: It moved it out of the way and gave it a different name so that you still have a copy of it if you need it for anything04:07
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Hawkwindlarson9999: I won't use a 64Bit system for atleast another year.  Once they mature and things work a lot better.  Most 64Bit distros still have lib issues04:08
Hawkwindrolando: You don't compile nachos, you eat them for dinner :P04:08
larson9999Hawkwind: that's what i figured04:08
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rolandoHawkwind: lol, but seriously ever played with it?04:09
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Gh0st75i'm using the 64 bit Kubuntu04:09
rolandoi cant "make" it04:09
KiongkuHawkwind: it wunt mind if i delete it? nothing important in it anyway04:09
Gh0st75not sure how much of a difference it makes tho04:10
HawkwindKiongku: You can delete the -old one now if you want, sure04:10
larson9999Gh0st75: oh, then maybe that's another reason i won't try it yet :)04:10
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abattoirKiongku: its still the same kopete.... :P04:11
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abattoirKiongku: its only your settings, that you have 'reset'04:11
Kiongkuabattoir: i know.. but it crashes kopete so..04:11
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abattoirok, ok :)04:12
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intelikeyi can't seem to get xdm to allow user login without passwd,   any body know anything about that ?04:12
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h3sp4wnrolando: What exactly are you trying to do ? I have used openwrt's buildroot (and tried and failed to use dpkg-cross)04:13
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rolandoh3sp4wn: i have to do some work with nachos, and i need a c to mips cross compiler04:13
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h3sp4wnrolando: What is the target device ?04:13
rolandoh3sp4wn: this is supposed to install the mips compiler tar -C / -xvzf gcc-mips.tgz04:14
intelikeyi edited /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config   and added xlogin.Login.allowNullPasswd: true   but it doesn't help....    someone surely has done this    no ?04:14
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rolandoh3sp4wn: and the trying to make it will give this error04:14
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MetaMorfoziSis there any way to setup the swap using of a program? for ex: i want to a program use the memory, and don't use swap04:14
MetaMorfoziS?04:14
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rolando++ -g -Wall -Wshadow -fwritable-strings -I../threads -I../machine -DTHREADS -DHOST_i386 -DHOST_LINUX -DCHANGED -c ../threads/main.cc04:15
rolandocc1plus: error: no se reconoce la opcin de lnea de comando "-fwritable-strings"04:15
intelikeyMetaMorfoziS if you don't run out of ram  you can  sudo swapoff -a   that will turn all swap off.04:15
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rolandoh3sp4wn: so i was wondering if there is a package availabla for kubuntu, which i couldnt find04:15
MetaMorfoziShoh it's not possible... i have 512mb ram, kde needs 2-30004:16
h3sp4wnrolando: Do you need big or little endian ?04:16
MetaMorfoziSand ut2004 needs all of the memory on the world04:16
KiongkuGuys i think kopete does not like MSN protocol04:16
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intelikeyMetaMorfoziS kde needs about 38m of ram04:16
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MetaMorfoziSKiongku: the os cummunity doesn't like the msn protocol04:16
rolandoh3sp4wn: i dont know, doesnt mention anything about that04:17
larson9999what do i need to change so the login screen has users and icons for the uses listed?  i used to have that but now i don't.  i use it for my son to click on his icon to log in04:17
MetaMorfoziSintelikey: and why it said the it uses 3-400mb04:17
MetaMorfoziSokay, i know the shared memory04:17
MetaMorfoziSbut it's irreal...04:17
h3sp4wnrolando: Have you the link of what you are trying to do ? Which mips machine are you trying to compile for ?04:17
MetaMorfoziSnot 3-4 2-3:D04:17
KiongkuMetaMorfoziS: os?04:17
MetaMorfoziSopen source04:18
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KiongkuMetaMorfoziS: because of microsoft :P?04:18
MetaMorfoziSKiongku: use jabber... it's secure and better... (okay i know, other lamas uses msn....)04:18
KiongkuMetaMorfoziS: whats jabber?04:19
rolandoh3sp4wn: this is the compiler im given http://sopa.dis.ulpgc.es/so/material-didactico-practico/nachos/gcc-mips.tgz04:19
MetaMorfoziSJabber is an im protocol, like icq or aim or mn...04:19
MetaMorfoziSm$n...04:19
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rolandoand with this tar -C / -xvzf gcc-mips.tgz i shuold install it04:19
MetaMorfoziSbut, it's free,, based on xml, and it's working like email04:19
Emessgrrr alltray isnt working right...04:20
MetaMorfoziSmore inf: http://jabber.org04:20
intelikeyMetaMorfoziS i have no idea where you got the information.   but practical usage and tests have proved to me that kde uses about (and this is a rough estimate because it veries slightly)  32-44 M  of ram.   there are things that use more and things that use less   according to your actual kde configuration.04:20
MetaMorfoziSand kopete supports it well, with ssl!04:20
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KiongkuMetaMorfoziS: send me ur link in that IM :P04:20
rolandoh3sp4wn: but i dont know anything about deps, so installing it via apt-get or something like that would be great04:20
MetaMorfoziSwhat?04:20
KiongkuMetaMorfoziS: enable SSL?04:21
h3sp4wnrolando: But what mips machine are you going to run the code that the cross compiler generates on ?04:21
stormhi04:21
MetaMorfoziSintelikey: how can you test it? i'm writed a php script that adds ps aux memory percent, and calculates the ram usage04:21
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MetaMorfoziSKiongku: do you know what is ssl?04:21
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stormwhat are you04:22
pete_Hi, I'm having problems installing compiz. It says I need libsvg-cairo 0.1.16, but 0.1.15 is in the repositories04:22
KiongkuMetaMorfoziS: MetaMorfoziS: secure socket layer or something?04:22
MetaMorfoziSyes04:22
Kiongkuoops sorry for dual name04:22
stormok04:22
pete_I would normally just compile it myself, but this is ubuntu, so Idon't want to get involved with source packages04:22
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MetaMorfoziSKiongku: try it! apt-get install ethereal - it's a network analyzer (sniffer)04:22
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Hawkwind!compiz04:22
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems04:22
MetaMorfoziSand send 2 message on jabber and msn.04:22
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stormhello04:22
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maltaethironguys, k3b doesnt open up04:23
MetaMorfoziSyou feel the difference04:23
MetaMorfoziS:)04:23
anssi_how can i uninstall grub04:23
stormhi04:23
anssi_or kubuntu04:23
rolandoh3sp4wn: nachos runs on a mips machine, and the cross compiler is supposed to emulate a mips in my laptop, that is what i understand04:23
stormanyone here04:24
maltaethironhawkwind: you know anything about fixing k3b? it wont start04:24
KiongkuMetaMorfoziS: its nice to be on jabber but i haev no one to talk to XDD04:24
anssi_im bored about the problems i have with this thing04:24
Hawkwindmaltaethiron: Have you run k3b-setup as sudo first ?04:24
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stormhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooo04:24
Hawkwindstorm: Patience04:24
MetaMorfoziSyes, like i said^^ some lamers uses msn... but you may tell about jabber to others, and you may turn off the autoconenct to msn...04:24
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stormsorry04:24
maltaethironso in konsole run sudo k3b-setup?04:24
abattoirstorm: hello... if you have a question, please ask04:24
Hawkwindstorm: Try asking a question if you need help04:24
Hawkwindmaltaethiron: Yes04:24
h3sp4wnrolando: All a cross compiler will allow you to do is generate code which can be run on a mips - you would need some type of a mips emulator (or some type of a mips machine) to run the generated code04:24
intelikeyMetaMorfoziS i tested it with loading kde in an environment that only had X amount of ram     any system with 64m of ram can run kde without any swap.   "be advised, i was testing kde not subsystems"   that is to say if you have 50 processes running in the back ground and they are eating 2m each don't expect anything to load in 128m   but on a clean system kde only uses about 38m04:24
rolandoh3sp4wn: tak, is there a package that will install this cross compiler?04:25
anssi_i think i stop using kubuntu for a while until im not so pissed off cause nothing works04:25
stormno i'm ok04:25
KiongkuMetaMorfozis: wanna be my first add in it o0?04:25
maltaethironhawkwind: k3b-setup: command not found04:25
MetaMorfoziSKiongku: metamorfozis@jabber.hu04:25
MetaMorfoziS:)))04:26
abattoirmaltaethiron: try k3bsetup04:26
Kiongkuhungarian :P?04:26
MetaMorfoziSyes04:26
stormdoes anyone have flash04:26
anssi_so how can i remove kubuntu without it it effecting windows starting04:26
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TheGateKeeperstorm: yes I have installed it04:26
rolandostorm: just until version 704:26
MetaMorfoziSstorm only flash 7 available today under linux.04:26
larson9999anssi_: same harddrive?04:26
cannonballh3sp4wn: http://kegel.com/crosstool/04:26
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larson9999anssi_: or did you install on different hard drives?04:27
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intelikeyanssi_ boot to windows fix your mbr and use fdisk on the drive.04:27
abattoiranssi_: the quick and dirty way would be to format the kubuntu partitions(and swap)... booting from the win xp cd and in rescue mode run fixmbr04:27
anssi_i cant even install flash and java even with multiverse enabled04:27
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Hawkwindmaltaethiron: k3b(hit the tab key)04:27
maltaethironok, because i was about to throw my error into pastebin for you04:28
intelikeyanssi_ if you want to wash linux from the system do it from M$   just like if you want to wash M$ from the system, do it from linux.04:28
anssi_yeah its on same drive as windows04:28
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Hawkwindmaltaethiron: Learning to use tab completion is your best friend when working in the terminal04:28
Hawkwindmaltaethiron: It's just like tab/nick completion here on IRC04:28
maltaethironi hit the tab key, and all that happens is it beeps04:28
anssi_whats M$04:28
larson9999anssi_: i thought earlier you said you were going to install 32 bit kubuntu04:28
larson9999anssi M$=MS04:29
intelikeyanssi_ micro $oft04:29
Hawkwindmaltaethiron: Type: k3b  then hit the tab key a couple of times04:29
anssi_never too much trouble04:29
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maltaethirongot it04:29
TheGateKeeperanssi_: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox04:29
maltaethironwell kindof hawkwind04:30
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anssi_what could be wrong i cant install java or flash that pisses me off cause i have multiverse enabled04:30
h3sp4wn!info toolchain-source04:30
ubotutoolchain-source: The GNU binutils and gcc source code. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.4-5 (dapper), package size 45824 kB, installed size 55240 kB04:30
maltaethironi gotta go to work, it's 10:30 now, will you be on around 4:30?04:30
larson9999it's my guess that much of anssi_ problems are due to trying 64 bit.04:30
MetaMorfoziSintelikey: and did you tried any other dekstop environments? like gnome or blackbox?04:30
Hawkwindmaltaethiron: The command is actually k3bsetup04:30
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intelikeyanssi_ just be sure to fixmbr before you reboot, after you remove linux   or all it will do is    Grub error 21  or something.04:30
larson9999i could be wrong.  but don't you have chroot some of that in 64 bit?04:30
intelikeyMetaMorfoziS yessir04:30
abattoiranssi_: do you have a 64-bit windows ?04:31
MetaMorfoziSand what is your test results?:D04:31
anssi_if i cant do anything with this system so why would i keep it?04:31
anssi_no04:31
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h3sp4wnrolando: http://silicon-verl.de/home/flo/software/cross.html (that looks like it would work)04:31
intelikeygnome uses about 2m more than kde     bb much lighter  it will run in 16m04:31
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storm_hello I have got flash but it won't work04:31
maltaethironhawkwind: i gotta go now, we can try to tackle this whole thing later04:31
anssi_ehhehee04:31
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Hawkwindmaltaethiron: Ok.  Enjoy the work day04:32
anssi_i cant even get flash04:32
maltaethironehh, thanks04:32
anssi_or that java........argh04:32
TheGateKeeperstorm give me a url04:32
rolandoh3sp4wn: thanx a lot, i was about to kill myself reading among google groups04:32
abattoiranssi_: well, if you had that, you'd know it isnt a kubuntu problem... try the 32-bit version04:32
rolandoill give it a try04:32
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larson9999CBTF I will say this there's no native 64bit version of flash. though you can get the 32bit version of it to run. Have a look at this Howto Install 32 bit Firefox with Flash w/sound and Java for AMD6404:32
anssi_yeah ill right now04:32
anssi_bye04:32
intelikeyanssi_ if you don't like don't use it.   we don't all like the same thing  thats why more than one automobile exists04:32
larson9999anssi_: i think that's why you can't bit flash04:33
intelikeythere is no 64bit flash04:33
larson9999anssi_ CBTF I will say this there's no native 64bit version of flash. though you can get the 32bit version of it to run. Have a look at this Howto Install 32 bit Firefox with Flash w/sound and Java for AMD6404:33
anssi_intelikey..thats not the problem...problem is java and flash04:33
larson9999anssi_: and other things too.  i think the deal is you just have to use 32 bit.04:34
TheGateKeeperanssi_: got a working system??04:34
intelikeynot my problem. i don't use java or flash.04:34
intelikeyor a gui most of the time.04:34
anssi_yeah got it ill install ubuntu 32 right now04:34
larson9999TheGateKeeper: she does but anssi_ is new and trying to use flash and java on 64 bit and having headaches04:35
__osh__there will be a 64-bit flash when enough windows users use 64-bit windows machines. :-/04:35
ibertI need a tool to escape unicade chars in a stream. any idea?04:35
larson9999TheFuzzball: actually just trying to INSTALL them04:35
larson9999TheGateKeeper:  actually just trying to INSTALL them04:35
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TheGateKeeperanssi_: larson9999 this is what you folks nedd :-) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava04:35
anssi_okay can i get in here from ubuntu?04:36
intelikeyanssi_ na you should go back to windows for a while.  if you get board with it later on, then try linux again.  don't let these zealots talk you into something that will just frustrate you.04:36
intelikeybut to answer yout Q yes you can.04:36
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storm__oh and how does java work04:36
h3sp4wnThere is nspluginwrapper (I have it working fine on dapper 64 bit)04:36
intelikeyand there is also  #ubuntu04:36
TheGateKeeperanssi_: just follow the instructions in that url, you will also need 32bit multimedia to get codecs to run correctly too04:36
anssi_linux dont frustrate me its fine but getting things to work does04:37
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intelikeythat's part of linux04:37
larson9999TheGateKeeper: well, i'm not using 64bit.  i just figured anssi_ would have fewer headaches with 32 bit04:37
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larson9999anssi_: don't let the naysayers like intelikey dissuade you either04:37
storm__64 bit what04:37
__osh__TheGateKeeper: works but is hardly an elegant solution, no? More like a clever hack.04:37
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intelikeyQ. " what do linux users do ? "    A. " they install software. "04:38
TheGateKeeperlarson9999: just give the 34bit people that url, most of them go away happy :-)04:38
anssi_im followin gatekeepers instructions now04:38
TheGateKeeper64bit even ooops04:38
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storm__what is 64bit04:39
larson9999TheGateKeeper: i'll use it myself maybe.  i just bought an amd64 but just used my old 32bit installation because i've heard there are plenty of headache with 6404:39
storm__oh04:39
TheGateKeeper__osh__: just means no one has bothered to port to 64bit04:39
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intelikeystorm__ k804:39
ibertno idea?04:39
storm__k8 what04:39
anssi_now firefox is downloading04:39
larson9999TheGateKeeper: but for people new to linux i figured if there are headaches and work around needed, maybe they should use 32bit for a while to get used to linux04:39
ibert I need a tool to escape unicode chars in a stream. any idea?04:39
TheGateKeeperlarson9999: probable a good idea :-)04:40
anssi_lets see if i can get it working04:40
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larson9999anssi_: go for it.  it'll be a good test04:40
intelikeyibert \ not work ?04:40
TheGateKeeperanssi_: worked for others :-)04:40
anssi_how do i untar a file?04:41
h3sp4wnnspluginwrapper allows 32bit plugins to work fine with firefox 64 bit (maybe a bit of a pain to setup) but it works04:41
TheGateKeeperanssi_: tar -xvf [filename] .tar tar -zxvf [filename] .tar.gz04:42
ibertintelikey: no, I need the conversion to \uXXXX04:42
ibertintelikey: for each single "special" unicode character...04:42
TheGateKeeperanssi_: tar -xvf [filename] .tar OR  tar -zxvf [filename] .tar.gz04:42
storm__good bye04:43
anssi_okay thanks04:43
dooglusanssi_: just "tar xf file.tgz" or "tar xf file.tar".  don't bother remembering all the other options, you don't need them04:43
Hawkwindanssi_: Though the - is obsolete and is *not* needed anymore.  It's been obsolete for years so you can do tar xzvf filename.tar.gz /directory if you want04:43
MetaMorfoziS[16:33:36]  <intelikey> gnome uses about 2m more than kde     bb much lighter  it will run in 16m04:44
MetaMorfoziS2megabytes more ? or 2 times?04:44
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storm__oh and adept04:44
intelikeydooglus tar doesn't need compression switchs ?04:44
TheGateKeeperlarson9999: problems as far as I know mainly exist where software has not been ported to 64bit, so you have to install 32bit, not sure if problems extend to drivers etc04:44
dooglusintelikey: no, it doesn't.  just "x" to extract and "f" to tell it the filename04:44
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TheGateKeeperanssi_: another one to book mark :-) Windows to Ubuntu Transition Guide:http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/917/04:45
anssi_could you please write a complete command how to untar firefox1.5 i dont get it04:45
intelikeyi think it stinks the way they are moving away from switch indicators -  --  to all arguments....04:46
Hawkwinddooglus: You have to specify x for .tar.gz or j for .tar.bz2 actually04:46
dooglusanssi_: to untar anything just type "tar xf " into a terminal, then the filename to untar04:46
dooglusHawkwind: actually you don't.  read the docs04:46
dooglusHawkwind: I think you meant 'z' for .tar.gz.  But you don't need it anyway.04:46
Hawkwinddooglus: Sorry, yes, z for .tar.gz and j for .tar.bz204:47
dooglusHawkwind: not needed04:47
anssi_firefox directory does not exist..and i just downloaded it04:47
Hawkwindhawkwind@Britannia:~$ tar xf downloads.tar.bz2 downloads/04:47
Hawkwindtari_: downloads.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory04:47
Hawkwindtari_: Error is not recoverable: exiting now04:47
HawkwindAckkk, sorry about the paste04:47
Hawkwinddooglus: Oops, that was the right channel04:48
dooglusHawkwind: that's because you put "downloads/" at the end.04:48
Hawkwinddooglus: Because I want to tar a directory04:48
dooglusHawkwind: we're talking about extracting tarfiles04:48
Hawkwinddooglus: downloads happens to be the directory I want to tar.  Therefore z and or j are needed04:48
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TheGateKeeperanssi_: you doing it in /opt directory?04:48
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dooglusyou're using "x" - that means "extract"04:48
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intelikeyi just confirmed that compression switches are not needed for -x04:49
Freddy2hi04:49
anssi_ssshit04:49
intelikeyany compression04:49
anssi_ooops04:49
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Hawkwinddooglus: Ahhh, I read it as tarring files, sorry :P04:49
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dooglusHawkwind: so why specify the "x" flag then?04:50
anssi_i cant untar that firefox file aaaaaaaaaaargh04:50
intelikeyand thankfully it's not reading the .ext to find the compression alg04:50
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anssi_complete command for firefox-1.504:50
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anssi_please04:50
dooglusintelikey: it checks the first few bytes of the file to see what compression is used04:51
anssi_im so  stupid04:51
Hawkwindanssi_: Why don't you just install firefox with sudo apt-get install firefox ?04:51
intelikeyanssi_ you have been told several times.    tar xf <filename>04:51
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bkudriai just installed dapper on my hp pavilion dv6000, and startx gives me a black screen....what can i do?04:51
intelikeyi would still say   tar -xf <filename>04:51
fritschanssi_: if its a "tar.gz" do tar xvfz filename04:51
anssi_directory does not exist04:52
Hawkwindintelikey: Even the - is obsolete though. It hasn't been needed for years04:52
Emesswell this sint good, still cant get transparency working04:52
intelikeyfritsch no.   tar -xf file    for any tar archive.  with any compression  haven't you been paying attention.04:52
anssi_try to decide which one it is to untar a pakgage04:52
Hawkwindintelikey: But old habits are hard to break.  I don't think I could get used to not using all the switches for extracting a file that I've used for years04:53
anssi_!!!!!!!!!!!!04:53
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Hawkwindanssi_: They all work04:53
Hawkwindanssi_: But again, why not use Kubuntu's package manager to install firefox for you instead of compiling it04:53
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fritschintelikey: okay, me reads the man04:53
Freddy2i've recently installed (the first time for me) a debian-based distro, exactly kubuntu 6.06.1 LTS, but when going to install ssh/ftp servers i wasnt able to do it.. searches with aptitude search were not giving any result, probably because i need to update the source.list for apt04:54
anssi_oh its installing it in the pagkage manager04:54
fritschintelikey: the man page still says tar xvfz04:54
Freddy2where can i find updated sources for this?04:54
dooglusfritsch: the man page is just a stub.  the documentation is in texinfo format04:54
intelikeyfritsch so the manual is old04:54
Freddy2(well, maybe "common" sources.. not only for this kind of servers)04:54
Hawkwind!repos > Freddy204:54
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TheGateKeeperFreddy2: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories04:55
fritschdooglus: okay04:55
Freddy2ok thx04:55
anssi_now its installing it .)04:55
Freddy2!repos04:55
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource04:55
kikowsshi to all04:55
dooglus"info tar" tells me: "Reading compressed archive is even simpler: you don't need to specify any additional options as GNU `tar' recognizes its format automatically."04:55
HawkwindFreddy2: I sent you the info in pm so you didn't have to do it here04:55
kikowssi need some help pls04:55
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fritschintelikey: even the help is wrong?tar -xf archive.tar          # Extract all files from archive.tar.04:56
Freddy2ok04:56
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abattoirkikowss: what do you need help with?04:56
fritschintelikey: cool feature without chaning help, man, etc.04:56
anssi_and the thing halted on java installation.....ive had enough of 64 bit kubuntu now...bye04:56
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fritschanssi_: don` t give up too early ...04:56
kikowssi can't run skype04:56
anssi_this is just a pile of shit04:56
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Hawkwindanssi_: Please watch the language04:56
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fritschanssi_: okay, just ship me your Operating System and i` ll try yours04:57
abattoirkikowss: 32-bit or 64-bit?04:57
intelikeyfritsch first thing i did was test all compression forms and extentions  then when confirmed, i jumped on the band wagon.04:57
waspiushey..when i get send an emotion through kopete and i save it how can i use it after?04:57
fritschanssi_: you can only say shit to something, when you can make it better04:57
kikowss32-bit04:57
anssi_blaaaah04:57
fritschintelikey: okay04:57
anssi_had enough04:57
fritschintelikey: it `s defenitely cool04:58
abattoirkikowss: you installed from the skype site(or canonical's repo)? do you get any errors when you run it from the terminal?04:58
intelikeyyep.  but i still use switch indicators for all switches.  ;/04:58
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intelikeymore habbit than anything else.04:58
intelikeynow  anybody know how i can make xdm let me login ?04:59
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kikowssno but it's can't start ?? i don't know what to do04:59
kikowssit's very stupid04:59
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abattoirkikowss: you still havent answered my questions... did you install from a .deb, or did you extract the tar version?05:00
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intelikeyxdm refuses to allow user login without a password  (null passwd)    any way to change this ?05:00
kikowssfrom deb05:00
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abattoirkikowss: ok, so does running 'skype' in a terminal give you any errors?05:01
kikowssno05:01
Jucatogrrr that was so annoying!05:01
JucatoI thought K3b was the one having problems...05:01
abattoirkikowss: so you run it... and nothing happens? do you get the prompt back?05:02
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Jucatoit turned out that my sister didn't burn a multisession disc like she insisted...05:02
kikowssno05:02
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intelikeyQuestion,   do i need ssh-agent to run for xfce to work properly ?05:03
intelikeyJucato :)05:03
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intelikeyfriends and familey will get you every time.05:04
Jucatoto think that I had to reboot into XP just to check with Nero... only to realize that the error was between the keyboard and the chair...05:04
intelikeypebcak  ?05:04
tobiasomg! he said the X word!!?05:04
tobias:)05:04
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Jucatolol! yeah I think I did... may the great penguin god forgive my sin05:05
tobiasthose two letters should never be combined in such an unholy way05:05
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intelikeyQusetion.  where are the security settings for X ?05:05
waspiushttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages can someone help me with this cause i dont understand what to do?05:06
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abattoirwaspius: you just want to add his repo... right?05:07
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waspiusabattoir: add the repo and get the decs for dvd playing05:07
bkudriai just installed dapper on my hp pavilion dv6000, and startx gives me a black screen....what can i do?05:08
abattoirwaspius: 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'05:08
waspiusabattoir: yes05:08
abattoirwaspius: aah, it is a useful repo, but if libdvdcss is the only thing you need, there is a script which fetches it05:08
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waspiusabattoir: i dont know what else it offers..but basically i think i only need libdvdcss05:09
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TheGateKeeperwaspius: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability05:09
abattoirwaspius: do you have libdvdread installed?05:09
larson9999TheGateKeeper: i wonder if hercules will run on amd64.  i think i'll wait until i play with it more before i try switching05:09
abattoirwaspius: libdvdread3 to be precise05:10
waspiusabattoir: i think no05:10
waspiusTheGateKeeper: thanx05:10
abattoir!info libdvdread305:10
ubotulibdvdread3: Simple foundation for reading DVDs. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.4-5.1 (dapper), package size 51 kB, installed size 168 kB05:10
abattoirwaspius: its in main, please install that...05:10
TheGateKeeperwaspius: if you have repos problems try this:http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories05:10
abattoirwaspius: i think the guide says the same... so you can follow it if you want05:11
waspiusthanx allot05:11
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TheGateKeeperlarson9999: are there any 64bit drivers for hercules??05:11
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larson9999TheGateKeeper: i don't know.  it's a mainframe emulator.05:14
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TheGateKeeperlarson9999: stick with 32bit for a bit :-)05:15
larson9999TheGateKeeper: yeah.05:15
Kiongku!krusader05:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about krusader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:16
Kiongku!info krusader05:16
ubotukrusader: Twin-panel (commander-style) File Manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.60.1-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1940 kB, installed size 5280 kB05:16
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Emessanyone know how to change konsole text colour?05:16
m4g1csettings --> schema05:17
waspiusTheGateKeeper: do u know how i can make my trash to show when empty when full?cause now it only shows empty05:17
Emessscjema isnt helping...05:18
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TheGateKeeperwaspius: sorry I don't :-(05:18
m4g1chave u tried settings --> configure konsole05:18
abattoirEmess: Settings->Configure Konsole-> schema should give you more options05:19
abattoirheh05:19
Emessnot for text colour tho05:19
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intelikeyEmess yes it's there.  first tab maybe.05:20
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intelikeyEmess you can change text colour background highlighted everything05:21
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intelikeys/tab/button/05:21
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abattoirEmess: changing konsole colour does nothing?(in the schema tab)05:22
redi need ati drivers05:22
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abattoir!ati05:22
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto05:22
abattoirred: ^^^ that might help you05:22
SonicChaoAre there any good tablets for my Linux system? Not Tablet PCs, the things that you draw on.05:22
redabattoir:  tyvm05:22
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abattoirred: np :)05:22
abattoirSonicChao: wacom ?05:22
SonicChaoabattoir: Wacom?05:23
SonicChao...?05:23
Jucatowacom tablet05:23
Jucatoa dream that didn't become a reality last week... :-(05:23
SonicChaohm, never heard of it.05:23
stray77http://www.wacom.com/index2.cfm05:23
Jucatoerr...05:23
JucatoI thought Wacom is the most famous tablet manufacturer.. :-D05:24
SonicChaoSorry, I just needed one recently. =)05:24
SonicChaoDon't know anything about tablets.05:24
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Jucatoehehe! same here. All I know is that Wacom's seem to be the most recommended :-D05:24
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larson9999i know two things about tablets: 1. i have 2 but no pens.  2. the ubuntu xorg.conf has plenty of lines dedicated to them even though none are plugged in.05:26
Jucatolarson9999: yeah. at one point in Kubuntu, those lines were messing with my Xorg.conf05:26
Jucatoand not allowing me to start X05:26
stray77There is an open source 3rd party driver for Linux that supports Intuos2, Graphire2, Graphire3 and Cintiq as well as older Wacom tablets.05:26
SonicChaolarson9999: So, Tablets would work in Linux?05:26
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Jucatowhoa. how about Graphite 4?05:26
larson9999SonicChao: i haven't tried but from what i've read and seen they should work.05:27
SonicChaoYeah, I did the test to see which one I should get and is said Graphite 405:27
Jucatodarn! if only up to Graphite 3 is supported, I better start looking for one... most shops here just sell Graphite 405:27
stray77http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/05:27
SonicChaoJucato: eBay. =)05:27
stray77Supported USB Devices05:27
stray77Graphire 1, 2, 3 & 405:28
SonicChaoOk, good.05:28
SonicChaoSo I'll be able to get a Wacom tablet.05:28
SonicChaoThanks!05:28
Kiongkui dutn have the money to get a tablet to play with :_:05:28
Jucatolol! If it were only possible for me to buy stuff online, I wouldn't be taking pains to look for a local shop :-D05:28
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JucatoKiongku: true. A tablet is something you usually don't buy to play with :-D05:28
Tokeiitohello05:28
Kiongkujucato: lol.. well the main i put linux.. is to play with it XD05:29
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Jucatostray77: thanks for that link!05:29
GravedeFinsAnyone know a good tutorial for setting up a Bluetooth Network, 2 computers ,1 acting as server for the other to acces the internet ?05:29
SonicChaoXD Kiongku...I'll see what they cost on Wacom/ebay05:29
Tokeiitohave such error message when try to load any X program from console:05:29
TheFuzzballhello, who can tell me how to install grub with /sbin/grub-install when I have 2 partitions?05:29
SonicChao=P05:29
JucatoKiongku: ehehe! but Linux is free (at least most distros are :-D ). Tablets... well...05:29
TokeiitoError: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16605:29
TokeiitoError: Major opcode: 14605:29
TokeiitoError: Minor opcode: 305:29
TokeiitoError: Resource id: 0x005:29
TokeiitoError: Failed to open device05:29
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SonicChao!pastebin > Tokeiito05:29
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Tokeiitohow to fix this ***05:29
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SonicChaoJucato: I'd never get an unfree distro.05:30
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TokeiitoSonicChao: sory. i know pastebin, but there are only 5 lines.05:30
JucatoTokeiito: do those programs still run, even with the error messages?05:30
HawkwindTokeiito: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.005:30
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Tokeiitoyes they run05:30
abattoirTokeiito: Hawkwind has a link for it05:30
cannonballTheFuzzball: grub-install /dev/partition_mounted_as_root05:30
abattoiraah :D05:30
HawkwindTokeiito: Read that post on my forums05:30
Alextremo((wenass))))))))05:30
JucatoSonicChao: I "couldn't" get an paid distro :-D05:30
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TokeiitoHawkwind: thank you05:30
HawkwindTokeiito: No problem05:31
Jucato*sigh*05:31
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KiongkuJucato: XD... i just hoped Cedega was free too :(( i have to switch to win each time i want play Guild wars ~_~05:31
Hawkwindabattoir: We need some info about that added to the bot05:31
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Jucatoisn't there a way for the system to modify xorg.conf,depending on whether or not a tablet is present/connected?05:31
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JucatoKiongku: Cedega CVS is free, though05:31
TheFuzzballcannonball: Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.05:32
abattoirHawkwind: sure... but the ops dont seem to like me... whatever I add gets rejected... :(05:32
Jucatoso many people have been complaining about this "false errors"...05:32
Hawkwindabattoir: How do you go about adding it ?05:32
cannonballTheGateKeeper: Is /boot a seperate partition or part of the root partition?05:32
D4rklyhi i have created a share in the settings for vmware but when power up xp where can i find the vmware share ?05:32
HawkwindJucato: It seems several times a day they complain05:32
Jucatoyeah. not that it's getting annoying, but I really pity them. imagine the stress and confusion it's causing05:33
abattoirHawkwind: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage05:33
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Hawkwindabattoir: I'll see what happens. I'll add it then possibly talk to nixternal or someone to verify it gets added05:34
D4rklyanyone know how i can access a share i created in vmware ?05:34
abattoirHawkwind: i think imbrandon and Hobbsee have privs. too05:35
SonicChaoO_O05:35
TheGateKeepercannonball: I think it depends how you set things up05:35
HobbseeHawkwind: what's this?05:35
cannonballD4rkly: NFS or Samba share?  NFS: machinename:/export   Samba: \\MACHINENAME\share05:35
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JucatoHawkwind: could it be possible to have a sticky for that in Kubuntuforums as well?05:36
abattoirHobbsee: about the addition of a ubotu factoid, which details how to get rid of the X error messages(wacom) those are printed out05:36
HawkwindHobbsee: We got a lot of users complaining about the Bad Device Errors and I've got a how-to on my forums to fix it.  I just added the fact to the bot if you could approve it05:36
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cannonballTheGateKeeper: Grub thinks /boot is a seperate partition.  I'm asking you if you set it up that way.05:36
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HawkwindJucato: You want me to post it on the Kubuntu forums ?05:36
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SonicChaoJucato: There are great deals for tablets on eBay05:36
D4rklycannonball i am using vmware run run XP and in the vmware settings i chose to share a folder off linux filesystem to share with vmware but dont know where to find it ?05:36
HawkwindHobbsee: I can paste it to you in pm if that would help you05:37
SonicChaoJucato: eBay wants $50 while the Wacom store wants $20005:37
JucatoHawkwind: if you wouldn't mind. or just a link to your forum if you want. A lot of people have been asking about it there, too05:37
abattoirHobbsee: oh, ok... i though i'd seen a few entries that you had added...05:37
stray77If you've done the VMWare Server settings right all you have to do is to create a network share in (virtual) Windows and then go to the 'Places' menu and look under 'Network Servers'.05:37
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springman!ati05:37
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto05:37
HobbseeHawkwind: true.  or just  put it in again05:37
stray77You should be able to find all available Windows shares under there including the one from your vitual PC on your virtual network05:37
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Hobbseeabattoir: i do have access - i wasnt in the channel though, so didnt see it05:37
JucatoSonicChao: like I said, online instructions for me are quite unfeasible/improbable/impossible :-D05:37
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cannonballD4rkly:  I think you have the wrong interpretation of the word "share".  I'm no vmware expert though, so I'll wait and see if someone else can answer it before I give my thoughts on it.05:38
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cannonballD4rkly: If you selected share folder from within windows, then you could use something like smb4k to browse to that share.05:38
D4rklyvmware has a share folder setting05:39
cannonballD4m4ge: But you said you chose to share a folder "in vmware settings".  I'm not sure exactly what that means.05:39
Hawkwindabattoir: Hobbsee to the rescue for us :)05:39
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cannonballsomeone with more vmware experience will have to help you with that.05:39
HawkwindJucato: abattoir:  For future references, it should be !bad device error05:39
waspiuswhat is the difference between kdesu,sudo and su?05:39
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D4rklyif you edit the xp vm's settings the go to options there is a shared folders options in which you can choose a linux folder to share but i just cant find in in xp05:40
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cannonballwaspius: In a very generic nutshell, sudo allows you to do things as root (or as whatever user is specified in the sudo config file) without having to know that user's password.  You only need to verify that you are who you say you are by using _your_ password, instead of that target user's.05:41
Jucato!kdesu05:41
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo05:41
Jucato!sudo05:41
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:41
TheGateKeepercannonball: going to have answer your question with a question. What are you trying to do?05:41
Jucato!su05:41
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:41
Jucatoerr... no entry for su. lol05:41
waspius:05:41
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waspius:)05:41
Hobbsee!bad device error is <reply>If you are receiving the warning messages similar to: Error: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 then please follow this how-to to solve the problem:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.005:42
ubotu('bad device error', 's!.*!<reply>If you are receiving the warning messages similar to: Error: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 then please follow this how-to to solve the problem:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0!')05:42
Hobbsee!bad device error is <reply> If you are receiving the warning messages similar to: Error: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 then please follow this how-to to solve the problem:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.005:42
ubotu('bad device error', 's!.*!<reply> If you are receiving the warning messages similar to: Error: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 then please follow this how-to to solve the problem:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0!')05:42
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JucatoI think "su" is used to log in as any user, you have to specify, though, otherwise it tries to login as the root user by default.05:42
cannonballTheGateKeeper: trying to figure out if your /boot is a seperate partition than your /, because grub thinks it is and can't find the device (/dev/whatever) that it thinks /boot is mounted with.05:43
BloodyNOI just installed Sun JRE and Opera browser's text is completely blurry - does anyone recognizes this problem?05:43
Jucatoso "su <username>" will try to log you in as  <username> in the command line. but plain "su" will try to log you in as root05:43
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Jucatobut since Ubuntu doesn't have a root account by default, "su" will not normally work (unless you enable a root account)05:43
HawkwindJucato: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7964  I can't make it sticky on the Kubuntu forums unfortunately but it's there05:44
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Hobbsee!baddeviceerror is <reply> If you are receiving the warning messages similar to: Error: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 then please follow this how-to to solve the problem:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.005:44
ubotu('baddeviceerror', 's!.*!<reply> If you are receiving the warning messages similar to: Error: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 then please follow this how-to to solve the problem:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0!')05:44
HobbseeHawkwind: still borked.05:44
JucatoHawkwind: cool! thanks for that. I'll try asking one of the mods to make it a sticky05:45
TheGateKeepercannonball: well on my pc you will have the MBR that grub will use to start the OS off, a swap partition, root partition and home partition, as far as I am aware /boot would be in the root partition on my pc05:45
HawkwindHobbsee: Chop the bots head off, maybe that will help :P05:45
Hobbseehah05:45
Jucatolol05:45
HobbseeHawkwind: or the guy who wrote the bot05:45
Hobbseei think that would be against the CoC though....05:45
HawkwindHobbsee: Who can we report this problem to ?05:45
cannonballTheGateKeeper: try added --recheck  to the grub-install commandline to make it rescan for devices.05:46
cannonballTheGateKeeper: Also, put your /etc/grub/menu.lst into a pastebin and let us take a look at it.05:46
HawkwindHobbsee: We could chop his head off with all due respect.  In a positive manner :P05:46
HobbseeHawkwind: seveas?  i'll whine at him when i next see him05:46
Hobbseeif i remember05:46
Hobbseehehe05:46
TheGateKeepercannonball: that's not to say some put /boot in a seperate partition05:46
cannonballTheGateKeeper: while you're at it, put 'cat /proc/mounts' into that pastebin too.05:46
cannonballTheGateKeeper: and 'cat /etc/fstab'05:46
Jucatohow do you chop one's head off with all due respect? "Oh, excuse me, but we would like to respectfully chop off your head.Please do not try to move, as we do not with to make a mess. We will try to make it as swift and painless as possible. Thank you for your cooperation."05:47
Jucatos/with/wish05:47
HawkwindJucato: Exactly.  Then we shouldn't be violating the CoC :P05:47
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Jucatoright... the CoC doesn't mention anything about online/virtual homicide, right?05:48
Jucatolol05:48
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HawkwindJucato: It probably will after we get done though05:48
HawkwindHah05:48
TheGateKeepercannonball: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2089305:49
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D4rklyanyone got WoW working in wine if i use -opengl it wont load05:49
cannonballTheGateKeeper: and when you do a grub-install, you're doing 'grub-install /dev/hda2' or 'grub-install /dev/hda'?05:52
cannonballAdd to that pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst05:52
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larson9999D4rkly: i think darrkness said he did.  i htink these are the sites he said worked for him: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50414 http://transgaming.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3149&sid=ad258914a9a2c11baf1ab86a0b7abfbe05:52
larson9999D4rkly: he said that 2nd was for cedaga but it worked in wine05:53
D4rklyok cool :) thx05:53
TheGateKeepercannonball: hmm never had to do one, I would have thought  /dev/hda what does the documentation say?05:53
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cannonballTheGateKeeper: the documentation just says "put it where you need it".  We're trying to determine which one you need it to be.05:53
larson9999D4rkly: i copied the links because i'm going to give it a try but i haven't yet05:54
cannonballTheGateKeeper: put your /boot/grub/menu.lst into the pastebin so I can look and see how grub is configured.05:54
TheGateKeepercannonball: probable need to ask someone with more knowledge than me :-)05:54
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TheGateKeepercannonball: ok05:54
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gan|y|medhello05:56
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TheGateKeepercannonball: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2089405:56
TheGateKeepercannonball: let me know what works :-)05:57
gan|y|medhow is the ipw2200 (wlan) firmware implemented in ubuntu? i have my own kernel, but there is no hotplug dir to put the firmware into. but the standard kernel works with wlan.05:57
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waspiusdo u know how to setup hotmail with thunderbird?05:58
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Hawkwindwaspius: Get yourself a Gmail account and leave hotmail for Windows users :)05:59
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waspiusHawkwind: :) i cannot cause i have it for many years05:59
Hawkwindwaspius: You can forward your hotmail email to another email account IIRC06:00
waspiusHawkwind: is that good?06:00
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TheGateKeeperwaspius: want an gmail invite?06:01
waspiusTheGateKeeper: sure06:02
Hawkwindwaspius: If you can forward it from hotmail, I surely would06:02
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TheGateKeeperwaspius: pm me a email address to send it to06:02
waspiusok06:02
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waspiusTheGateKeeper: do u pay for iirc?06:03
TheGateKeeperwaspius: no!06:03
gan|y|medhow is wlan firmware implemented in ubuntu? udev?06:03
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TheGateKeeperwaspius: I am a yorkshire, don't pay b****er all if I don't have to :-)06:04
Tokeiitocould any one give name of good RPG or Strategic game for linux. Now i'm playing freeciv, but it become boring...06:04
Tokeiitotryed planeshift, but my graphic card is too week for it06:05
waspiusTheGateKeeper: lol..which is the webpage for it?06:05
TheGateKeeperwaspius: for what?06:05
waspiusTheGateKeeper: iirc06:05
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waspiuscant seem to find it06:06
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TheGateKeeperwaspius: this what you are after?? http://f0rked.com/articles/irssi06:07
larson9999linux rocks!06:08
waspiusTheGateKeeper: yep thanx06:08
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larson9999Tokeiito: have you looked in the linux game tomb?06:09
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TheGateKeeperlarson9999: had to use the command line in windows today, dreadfull, bash has spoilt me :-)06:09
Ace2005Windows has a command line?06:09
trappistAce2005: sort of06:09
TheGateKeeperAce2005: debatable :-)06:10
Tokeiitotomb?06:10
larson9999TheGateKeeper: well, if you HAVE to use windows, put some unix commands on.  you can get it looking pretty close to *nix06:10
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TheGateKeeperAce2005: trappist a bad excuse for one06:10
Ace2005Maybe its just never used i guess06:10
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larson9999Ace2005: you were serious?  sure it's got a command line.06:11
TheGateKeeperlarson9999: hmmm that's a good idea06:11
Ace2005yes i am serious06:11
Freddy2larson9999: not so close.. but gnu command line utils for windows (including also bash) does its job "great"06:11
trappistit's not terribly useful06:11
larson9999TheGateKeeper: there are lots of the linux commands that have been ported.  shells, too.06:11
Ace2005i just type stuff like ping xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx in the run boc06:12
trappistyeah if you install cygwin suddenly it's not so bad06:12
larson9999Freddy2: well, kinda close.  windwos will never be linux.06:12
larson9999trappist: i was talking withough cygwin06:12
larson9999without06:12
TheGateKeeperlarson9999: interesting idea, but using konsol is just a much more pleasent experience06:12
Ace2005Yup i like konsole06:13
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trappistlarson9999: yeah there are ways to get this and that unix cli utility, but if you install cygwin you get pretty much everything you'd want06:13
Freddy2i'd like to have a multi-tab konsole for windows, but.. xD06:13
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larson9999TheGateKeeper: i just meant if you HAVE to like for work etc.  i had to do some bat files at work so i installed sed, et al to make things sane.06:13
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larson9999trappist: yeah but sometimes you can't install cygwin.  and i was just pointing out that even if you can't use cygwin you can still do a lot to make the command prompt reasonable.  that's all06:14
TheGateKeeperlarson9999: I am in the same position, my primary OS at home is now linux, but at work I still have to use windows06:15
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larson9999TheGateKeeper: i don't want that to change really.  windows has made me a lot of money :)06:15
waspiusi installed thunderbird and now i cannot remove it...apt-get remove thunderbird shows that it is not installed and adept shows it is not installed..but it is still in the menu and it still works06:15
Ace2005waspius: Install it again and then remove it06:16
waspiusok06:16
larson9999waspius: did you install it outside of apt?06:16
TheGateKeeperlarson9999: alright for everyone else :-) :-)06:16
Kiongkuhey ppl. u know where qt-config is found?06:16
waspiuslarson9999: yes06:16
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west-encan i get help with midi?06:16
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gebruiker123how much memmory is needed for Kubuntu?06:17
epyfro25606:17
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larson9999waspius: if you installed it without using apt, it won't think it's installed and you'll have to uninstall without apt, too.  afiak06:17
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gebruiker123epyfro: you use 256?06:17
TheGateKeepergebruiker123: works on my test box P3, 12Mb RAM 20Gb HDD06:17
Freddy2epyfro: 256 without X running?06:17
waspiuslarson9999: so what should i do???apt-get remove thunderbird does not work06:17
epyfrono i use 2g06:18
TheGateKeeper128Mb RAM ooops can't type today06:18
gebruiker123i have 256 here and kde is slow as hell06:18
epyfroyep06:18
larson9999waspius: check out the thunderbird site and see how it says to uninstall it.06:18
gebruiker123why?06:18
waspiusok06:18
gebruiker123kde should run smooth right?06:18
waspiusthanx06:18
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Freddy2sure.. kde uses lots of resources06:18
gebruiker123(with 256 mb..)06:18
Ace2005Its not called thunderbird is it? isn't it mozilla-thunderbird or something?06:18
gebruiker123so why is 256 not enough?06:18
TheGateKeepergebruiker123: can be a bit resource hungry06:19
gebruiker123konquror is slow06:19
gebruiker123(in starting)06:19
waspiusAce2005: yes i think u r right06:19
waspiusthanx06:19
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gebruiker123so why does kubuntu say 256 mb needed?06:19
Freddy2you'll have to upgrade your system, or move to another lighter desktop06:19
larson9999Ace2005: oh yeah waspius if you installed via apt, it's called mozilla-thunderbird and not thunderbird06:19
waspiusok i removed it06:19
TheGateKeepergebruiker123: what processor?06:19
pierrethhello, how can I add an icon to a kicker menu item?06:19
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gebruiker123TheGateKeeper: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.53GHz06:20
TheGateKeeperpierreth: right click Menu editor06:21
Freddy2celeron sux06:21
Kiongkugot 1 Gb ram.. no prob06:21
Kiongkuand yeah celeron sucks.06:21
trappistpierreth: run kmenuedit and edit the entry06:21
dooglusgebruiker123: I'm running KDE, firefox, evolution, emacs, mplay, konsole and gaim - it's using 277mB in totaol.06:21
gebruiker123Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.53GHz | 256 mb | 38GB06:22
dooglusgebruiker123: 2.2GHz Intel P406:22
waspiusis there a way to make the auto run to show any program i want in it?ie if i input a dvd to get xine to start?06:22
gebruiker123Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.53GHz | 256 mb | 38GB  (Should it be that it takes quite a while to fireup konq or firefox?06:22
gebruiker123)06:22
pierrethtrappist: there is no way to add on icon with this editor06:23
TheGateKeepertrue also with my P3 box06:23
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Freddy2without using amarok and akregator you shouldn't have much problems when using kde, i think06:23
trappistpierreth: but there is.  you click the square where you would see the item's icon if it already had one, and you get an icon selection interface06:24
pierrethtrappist: ok, I see!06:25
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gebruiker123TheGateKeeper: what does you hdparm output look like?06:25
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KiongkuFreddy2: nice.. makes me remember to start my amarok for some music XD06:26
Freddy2xD06:26
gebruiker123 Timing cached reads:   1152 MB in  2.01 seconds = 574.36 MB/sec06:27
gebruiker123 Timing buffered disk reads:   46 MB in  3.04 seconds =  15.15 MB/sec06:27
gebruiker123TheGateKeeper: normal?06:27
TheGateKeepergebruiker123: sorry no idea, haven't got my test box connected up at the moment06:27
Freddy2gebruiker123: and of course don't use superkaramba if you have a high cpu usage06:27
larson9999big day today... going to install linux on my wife's laptop06:27
TheGateKeeperlarson9999: does she know?06:28
Freddy2xDD06:28
gebruiker123Freddy2: i don't use superkaramba just default kubuntu settings06:28
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gebruiker123 VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT82 <-- my hd06:28
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larson9999lol@ TheGateKeeper: yeah.  just on an external hd.  but i've been prepping her for the idea for years06:28
gebruiker123[  177.803552]  VP_IDE: VIA vt8237 (rev 00) IDE UDMA133 controller on pci0000:00:06:29
pierrethis there a version of konsole that is less buggy?06:30
gebruiker123aterm?06:30
TheGateKeeperlarson9999: still got her comfort zone then lol06:30
Freddy2konsole buggy? what kde version?06:30
pierrethFreddy2: how can i know?06:31
Freddy2at konqueror/konsole, help / about kde06:32
TheGateKeeperlarson9999: keep threatening my other half with a linux install of her laptop :-)06:32
larson9999TheGateKeeper: yeah, but she has used linux off and on for a while.  i'm setting up a separate machine that will only run mainframe emulator that we'll also network into so hopefully soon enough this house will be very close to most of the enviroments i've worked in.06:32
pierrethFreddy2: i don't have the konsole06:32
Freddy2not konqueror or any other k-app too?06:33
TheGateKeeperlarson9999: cool :-)06:33
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pierrethFreddy2: 3.5.2 from konqueror06:33
larson9999TheGateKeeper: she has masters in CIS(i think that's right) but doesn't work and doesn't really want to 'practice' but i'm doing my best to make her.  i've finally got her convinced start a project that makes toddler levels for OSS games that include level editors.06:33
Freddy2hmm what do you mean "buggy"?06:34
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pierrethFreddy2: you type a loooong line, it continues on the same lines instead of going down06:34
doogluspierreth: doesn't that depend what program you're running inside it?06:35
Freddy2i had never seen it before..06:35
pierrethdooglus: no, i don't this problem with Terminal from xfce06:35
Freddy2but this appears only using bash inside konsole? that's a bit strange06:36
pierrethdooglus: using bash for example06:36
TheGateKeeperlarson9999: CIS??06:36
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pierrethFreddy2: i don't know....06:37
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Freddy2pierreth: try to upgrade to 3.5.4, or simply post a new bug at kde's site06:37
Freddy2what distro are you using?06:37
larson9999TheGateKeeper: computer major.  i didn't go to college and don't listen well to my wife so i don't know the acronym  :)06:37
pierrethFreddy2: ok, is 3.5.4 ready for production?06:37
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TheGateKeeperlarson9999: we all suffer from that one (not lisening to hard :-) )06:38
Freddy23.5.4 is better than 3.5.3, and this one is better than 3.52, and so on06:38
pierrethok06:38
Freddy2*3.5.206:38
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larson9999one thing i notice in 3.5.4 is that progress bars extend beyond their boundaries06:38
pierrethFreddy2: i should go to the kde website and see how to upgrade?06:39
enzoI cannot log into my desktop. It keeps looping to my login screen06:39
larson9999maybe progress bar isn't the proper term06:39
Freddy2what distro are you using?06:39
enzoany ideas?06:39
cannonballTheGateKeeper: Sorry for the delay, had something to attend to.06:39
pierrethFreddy2: Kubuntu06:39
TheGateKeepercannonball: you winning?06:39
cannonballTheGateKeeper: your config looks ok.  Unless /dev/hda and /dev/hda2 don't exist, I'm not sure what the problem is.06:39
TheGateKeeperpierreth: use the (k)ubuntu wiki site06:40
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TheGateKeeperpierreth: there is a repo for 3.5.406:40
pierrethTheGateKeeper: Ok06:40
Freddy2http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php06:40
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TheGateKeepercannonball: try download gparted livecd see what it makes of it, can you backup and reinstall as a last resort?06:42
TheGateKeepercannonball: you using SATA?06:42
Cavallohi06:43
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Cavallohow I can connect to vpn netwrok at workplace ?06:43
TheGateKeeperCavallo: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_Configure_and_start_PPTP_tunnels_.28VPN.2906:44
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pierrethTheGateKeeper: how can I use the package file?06:44
cannonballTheGateKeeper: no, we use scsi only.06:45
TheGateKeeperadd it to /etc/apt/sources.list06:45
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cannonballTheGateKeeper: I'm a little confused now.  Why are you asking me questions?  My system is working fine.  We're trying to fix your grub install problem.  No?06:45
TheGateKeepercannonball: not a driver problem so not recognising your HDD correctly??06:45
pierrethTheGateKeeper: you mean append the file?06:46
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cannonballtrappist: Holy cow.  It's been years since I've seen you around.  Good to see you're still alive!06:46
TheGateKeepercannonball: I haven't got a grub install problem, think you have picked on the wrong person, I thought it was you with the problem :-)06:47
Freddy2haha06:47
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TheGateKeepercannonball: woundered why that question came out of the blue :-)06:48
Kiongkuanyone konws where i can find the qtconfig in kubuntu?06:48
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cannonballTheGateKeeper: you're right, it was TheFuzzBall (nick completion bangs me this time) :-)06:48
GameXzxc06:49
TheGateKeepercannonball: close :-)06:49
Freddy2Kiongku: a common place is /usr/lib/qt3/bin, but try find06:49
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Kiongkui cant find the bin06:49
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Romansdsd06:50
nagyvhello! how can I kill a defunct program (Skype) that uses my sound device?06:50
Romanchil06:50
Romanwy can skype not share my sound device with other programs06:51
trappistcannonball!06:51
trappistcannonball: so you've found the light too, eh?06:51
cannonballLong time no see.  Join the #Kubuntu-Offtopic channel, let's catch up?06:51
roberto1HElp my os crashes due to kernel32.dll06:51
Freddy2wtf?06:51
roberto1in wine06:51
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Admiral_Chicagoroberto1, oh06:52
roberto1in wine06:52
Admiral_Chicagoi was about to call you a super n00b06:52
Freddy2xD06:52
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roberto1why Admiral_Chicago ?06:52
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pierrethTheGateKeeper: OK06:52
nagyvRoman: because it is buggy, but there are several wrappers/workarounds06:52
Admiral_Chicagobecause i thought you were asking for help in a linux room for some windows error06:52
roberto1Admiral_Chicago,  how is Jerry SPringer doing?06:52
Admiral_Chicagoroberto1, i have no idea, i don't use wine06:53
roberto1beer only huh?06:53
roberto1:P06:53
Admiral_ChicagoI don't think he's on, but I'm not exactly looking for him06:53
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roberto1oh06:53
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luizhenriqueunicgalera06:54
luizhenriqueunicalguem pode me ajudar06:54
Freddy2si hablas en ingles.. seguramente06:55
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juanchinhohello06:56
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Romannagyv i dont understond06:56
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windis it possible to install ubuntu alongside kubuntu?06:56
windthen switch between the two06:57
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windso i don't lose all the settings and whatnot on kubuntu06:57
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jeff_hannwind: why not install gnome-desktop?06:58
nagyvRoman: what? google for skype_dsp_hijacker and look at http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=4819506:58
D4rklyyou should be able to put in on another drive or create more partitions. you may need to reconfigure grub though06:58
windi can do that?06:58
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jeff_hannof course06:58
nagyvRoman: the tips&tricks can be useful here http://extragear.kde.org/apps/kopete%20skype/#cp-content too06:59
jeff_hannsudo apt-get install gnome-desktop06:59
windhow06:59
Admiral_Chicagowind, you could dual boot?06:59
Admiral_Chicagooh wait, yea you can06:59
windyeah06:59
windi want to duel boot06:59
winddual06:59
pierrethTheGateKeeper: i will wait for the upgrade, it is too complicated :-(06:59
Admiral_Chicagoresize your partition, then install ubuntu as regular06:59
nagyvRoman: I have found these steps. Until today I used the dsp_hijacker, I tryed to switch to the forum's solutions, but I am not really satisfied albeit its first nice results.07:00
Admiral_Chicagothen in konsole type "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"07:00
Admiral_Chicagowind, i think you can also make it so your settings stay on one part07:00
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Admiral_Chicagojust log in in Gnome or KDE depending07:00
Admiral_Chicagounless you want different settings and date....07:00
windi have kubuntu right now07:00
windi want to have ubuntu too?07:00
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windcan both share everything i've done?07:00
windsame bookmarks, same settings, codecs, etc07:01
waspiusanyone play cs ?07:01
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Admiral_Chicagowind, yea just install Gnome by doing apt-get install gnome-desktop I think...07:02
windk07:02
jeff_hannand switch from kdm07:02
Admiral_Chicagocheck in adept/synaptic07:02
windwould it let me change through the login manager?07:03
windlike when i reboot, i get the login screen then i can pick kubuntu or ubuntu07:03
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Admiral_Chicagoyea07:04
Admiral_Chicagolog in as Gnome or KDE07:04
Kiongkuanyone compiled krusader here?07:04
roberto1does xgl work with kde?07:04
HawkwindKiongku: Why would you need to compile it ?  Just sudo apt-get install krusader07:05
roberto1FRIENDS!!!!!!07:05
roberto1FELLOW GEEKS!! :P07:05
Hawkwindroberto1: Easy on the caps07:05
roberto1ok :)07:05
roberto1soz07:05
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Admiral_Chicagodoes anyone know the font used in the ubuntu logo07:06
Hawkwind!xgl > roberto107:06
nagyv!xgl > nagyv07:06
TheFuzzballhow do I upgrade from KDE 3.5.2 to 3.5.4 in Dapper07:06
HawkwindTheFuzzball: Add the right sources to your sources.list07:06
Romannagyv no not skype for google07:07
Admiral_ChicagoTheFuzzball, kubuntu.or07:07
Admiral_Chicagokubuntu.org07:07
Admiral_Chicagoadd the key07:07
Admiral_Chicagoand add the line to your sources.list07:07
nagyvRoman: sorry, what not for what? :)07:07
HawkwindTheFuzzball: # kubuntu.org packages for the latest KDE version (packages, GPG key: DD4D5088)07:08
Hawkwind#deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main07:08
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trappistso, gpg --recv-keys DD4D5088; gpg --export --armour DD4D5088 > kubuntu.asc; sudo apt-key add kubuntu.asc07:09
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jaspreethi07:15
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gabrielhi?07:18
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windok i installed ubuntu now what07:20
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winddo i have to setup a login or can i use the one i have now07:20
magdahalo?07:20
gabrielI have problems installing a wireless internet conection on my hp nx 6125, does anyone knows how to solve this problem??07:21
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gabrielI've checked tutorials on the web but they didn't work07:21
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nagyvwinxpert: you can use the same one07:23
nagyvwinxpert: sorry, I wanted to reply to wind07:24
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juanIs there any way to export the mail in Evolution or Thunderbird in something like the PST's of Outlook?07:33
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nnn0hm i'm having trouble getting vsftpd to work, anyone done this ?07:35
Hawkwindnnn0: Curious...why are you using vsftpd instead of proftpd ?07:36
nnn0hm why would i do that ?07:36
MitchMits easier.07:36
HawkwindIt's easier, and more popular.07:36
nnn0i don't want easy, i want secure :)07:36
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nnn0hm07:37
HawkwindIt happens to be very secure07:37
ymlhello07:37
nnn0k07:37
MitchMits only as secure as _you_ make it07:37
nnn0maybe i should give it a go, but i'm just so used to vsftpd :)07:37
MitchMftp is ftp07:37
aliasfredq. is there a way to redirect the output of a program in the input of anot\her ? ala jack ?07:37
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nnn0ehehe07:37
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ymlI would like to start a bash file each time I am loging in. This bash file define the xmodmap configuration.07:38
aliasfredyml, in .bashrc or /etc/profile07:38
ymlDoes someone could tell me what is the ubuntu way of doing this.07:38
dooglusyml: what do you mean by "logging in"?07:39
fritschdooglus: i think when logging into kde session07:39
ymldooglus> I mean each time I am do a "login"07:39
fritschyml: there is a difference, text-login, graphical login07:40
fritschyml: but if you want to load "xmodmap" i think it is X07:40
ymlaliasfred>so far there is no .bashrc so I have created a .xmodmaprc07:40
dooglusyml: you run the "login" command?  or you use kdm?  or gdm?  or what?07:41
fritschyml: you could just place this script into ~/.kde/Autostart/07:41
ymlfritsch> yes it is x "login"07:41
dooglusif you're talking about logging in using the graphical kdm login screen, then .bashrc won't help you, 'cos bash isn't involved in the process07:41
ymlfritsch> this is what I was loking for07:41
yml~/.kde/Autostart/07:42
fritschyml: mmh, this is only for your user ... look, that the script is executable (chmod +x)07:42
Freddy2and you can also create ~/.kde/shutdown/ if you want to07:42
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ymlfritsch> it is already07:42
ymlvery interesting07:43
fritschyml: it is working?07:43
robertoDo you guys no what happend in 1997 between Steve Jobs and Bill Gates when MS invested 150 million in apple? I do Mac OSx will be apple to run xp apps without running xp by implementing a windows api layer in OSX 10.507:43
ymlbtw what is katapult?07:43
robertorunning xp apps w/o getting infected :o07:43
fritschyml: Press ALT SPACE07:43
ymlnice picture07:44
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robertoyml i lub u :007:44
ymlis there something usefull?07:44
fritschyml: now press a command like k3b or so07:44
Freddy2roberto: m$ owns near 40% of apple.. apple is not a far different company07:44
fritschyml: now type i mean07:44
robertoFreddy2 but if the rumors are true i am getting a mac07:44
fritschyml: it` s a quick starter for applications a katapult ;-)07:45
joschadoes anybody know of amarok 1.4.2b1 debs for kubuntu?07:45
robertorunning xp apps on mac w/o xp07:45
Freddy2it's your choice..07:45
ymlfritsch> I do not understand what do you mean by press a command07:45
robertois great07:45
roberto;o07:45
roberto=p07:45
fritschyml: press alt space07:45
fritschyml: after that type: k3b07:45
fritschyml: press enter07:45
robertobest of both worlds07:45
fritschyml: now clear?07:45
robertoand open source can also run on it07:45
Freddy2why i would need xp apps, having linux apps? for those certain unable at linux you can try crossover, so.. why mac? i don't need it at all07:46
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fritschroberto: it`s so cool, that you could create an own channel on irc for it?07:46
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Freddy2xD07:46
fritsch:-)07:46
robertohttp://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/07:46
roberto:P07:47
ymlfritsch> yes very nice07:47
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robertofritsch,  i lub u2 btw :007:48
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fritschroberto: thx07:50
robertoDoes anybody use crossover to run office on linux?07:51
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robertofrom codeweavers?07:51
ymlfritsch> Autostart is a folder so I should drop my script in it, isnt it?07:51
fritschroberto: www.openoffice.org07:51
fritschyml: yes07:51
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robertofritsch,07:52
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robertooffice is the standard07:52
robertoand better than openoffice07:52
fritschroberto: better is no relation like ">" in math07:53
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fritschroberto: so at least you have to do "structural induction"07:53
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ballchalkhello07:53
robertomore functionality and compatibility with existing fileformats07:53
MitchMhah.07:53
robertothus more efficient07:53
MitchMopenoffice > m$ office :-)07:53
Freddy2hoho07:53
Toti85die im #ubuntu.de laestern ueber kde T_T07:53
intelikeyooh  poo    what was that problem in /dev again when k3b cant find any scsi purner ?07:53
ballchalki'm using windows 2003 and i thot it was superior to linux until i spent 5 hours doing my laptop07:53
fritschroberto: compatibility *G* - the whole world has to be compatible to them ...07:54
robertodamn you open source zea lots :'(07:54
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robertoyou made me cry :'(07:54
intelikeywhat is the scsi control devices ?07:54
fritschstop talking to him ;-) he just wants this07:54
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Freddy2fritsch: sure07:54
MitchMaffirm.07:54
ballchalkhow often does ubuntu updates new versions?07:54
robertoTrue or False: open source is for people that can't afford a macintosh?07:54
fritschFreddy2: MitchM: We could play a game07:54
roberto:D07:54
MitchMsounds good.07:54
intelikeyballchalk 6 month07:55
MitchMwhat did you have in mind?07:55
fritschWhat would you buy, if you had 150 euro + 220 euro (which you did not pay to M$ OS and Office)?07:55
fritschno sorry, we leave him alone, this would be better07:55
intelikeyroberto true or false you are just here to troll ?07:55
Freddy2TRUE! xD07:55
ballchalkintelikey i'm downloading kubuntu 6.06 and would it be easy to upgrade like recompiling kernel? htis is something i know nothing about07:55
robertoinc|freaky, FALSE07:56
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MitchMballchalk: It is easy to upgrade from one to the other.07:56
robertointelikey, FALSE*07:56
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intelikeyballchalk no recompiling at all.   just two commands to upgrade.07:56
inc|freakyroberto: oO07:56
ballchalkfor example if i am using 6.06 and 6.08 comes out....is there a great difference? how easy will i be able to patch to 6.08?07:56
fritschroberto: i think the "*" point to TRUE07:56
ballchalkwow really07:56
aliasfredopen source is for people who cant stand the ridiculness of apple marketing :)07:57
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Admiral_Chicagoaliasfred, and who wont pay for a unix system07:57
intelikeyballchalk yes.  you update your sources.list and do a  apt-get dist-upgrade    badabing.07:57
ballchalki was trying to decide if freebsd was good but then their platform doesnt do kernel upgradabiilty07:57
ballchalko07:57
MetaMorfoziSwhat is db2 certification?07:58
serzholinoballchalk: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade, that's all07:58
Admiral_Chicagoballchalk, or do a sudo "dist-update -d"07:58
Admiral_Chicagoor some command like that07:58
serzholinoto upgrade to next release07:58
ballchalkalso ibm has HCL and redhat detects all the devices in my thinkpad laptop.....so......does that mean ubuntu will work the same way detecting my devices redhat will detect also?07:58
Admiral_Chicagogksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.07:58
serzholinoyep, there are many apt frontend07:58
fritschballchalk: which IBM do you own?07:58
ballchalkT4307:59
fritschballchalk: with radeon chipset?07:59
ballchalkradeon video intel 915 chipset07:59
ballchalkradeon v320007:59
fritschballchalk: pretty much should really run out of the box07:59
ballchalkit was the tops when i got it07:59
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ballchalkwow07:59
fritschballchalk: wireless, suspend, etc.07:59
ballchalkits also got a biometric fingerprint reader07:59
ballchalkcool08:00
fritschballchalk: mmmh this is a "more" problem08:00
ballchalkoh08:00
ballchalkibm has it08:00
ballchalki'll look for it but not important08:00
ballchalkso ok08:00
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ballchalkACPI is implemented?08:00
fritschballchalk: of course08:00
ballchalki was using Mac os x on my thinkpad and it ran hot08:00
fritschballchalk: www.thinkwiki.org08:00
ballchalknot powermanagement08:00
texas319_test08:00
ballchalkniiice08:00
fritschballchalk: look there, about you modell08:00
texas319_hey all08:00
ballchalkeya08:01
ballchalki thikn i already did08:01
ballchalkima look again08:01
MitchMhello texas319_08:01
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texas319_can I add kubuntu to a windows based domain08:01
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texas319_as a client08:01
ballchalkyo texas where u from?08:01
MitchMfor what purpose?08:01
ballchalki don't mean texas08:01
texas319_Houston08:01
ballchalkwow08:01
ballchalki'm from alief08:01
texas319_Lol08:01
texas319_koo08:01
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ballchalkyea08:01
ballchalki moved to jersey tho 6 mos08:02
texas319_i am at work up here in jersey Village now08:02
ballchalkfamily still there in houston08:02
texas319_koo08:02
ballchalkWTF08:02
ballchalkand you're in NJ?08:02
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ballchalki'm in NJ08:02
texas319_naww08:02
ballchalkoh08:02
texas319_Jersey Village up in north houston... 290 and beltway area08:02
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ballchalkyeap houston traffic worsening?08:03
ballchalkby the year08:03
texas319_yea08:04
texas319_i live in clear lake08:04
texas319_so i see the brunt of it08:04
Polarbeerhas anyone here installed a HP printer? i can't get mine to work.08:04
ballchalkoh ok08:04
texas319_now i am back to ubuntu08:05
texas319_lol08:05
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ballchalkyea ur way out hehe08:05
ballchalkback?08:05
ballchalkwhat else'dju use08:05
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fritschPolarbeer: me08:05
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ballchalki installed went from mac os x on my thinkpad to windows2003 now looking at kubuntu08:05
Polarbeergreat08:05
fritschPolarbeer: KDE-Icon-Settings-Printer08:06
ballchalki went into #freebsd and they flamed me man08:06
fritschPolarbeer: get Systemadmin08:06
fritschPolarbeer: add your printer08:06
Polarbeeri have done everything according to instructions, but it still doesnt work08:06
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fritschPolarbeer: GDI Printer?08:06
PolarbeerGDI? whats that?08:07
fritschPolarbeer: you chose the correct port? LPT/USB?08:07
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fritschPolarbeer: a windows printer08:07
Polarbeeryes08:07
PolarbeerPhotosmart 131508:07
fritschPolarbeer: mmh, sorry no "diagnostic" idea08:07
fritschPolarbeer: cannot see the logfiles08:07
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Polarbeerthanks anyway08:08
ballchalkoh great so thinkwiki doesn't just talk about redhat but covers all distros as a whole?08:08
ballchalkso anything that works in redhat will work in kubuntu then ?08:09
fritschballchalk: yes08:09
ballchalkwhoa08:09
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ballchalkok cool kubuntu i tis08:09
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fritschballchalk: install, update08:10
ballchalkyea also i don't wanna stay handicapped to the same kernel in *bsd not to mention the heated community08:10
ballchalkwhat the heck are they all pissed off about all the time anyway08:10
fritschballchalk: you aren` t08:10
fritschballchalk: you can always build your own08:10
pete_I'm new to ubuntu but I've been using linux for years.  Why in god's name do you rely so heavily on sudo?08:10
fritschballchalk: but, if everything is working?08:10
fritschballchalk: no problem, or?08:10
MitchMpete_ : Its just for the use of "newer" users08:11
fritsch!sudo > pete_08:11
fritsch!sudo08:11
nagyvRoman: I just learned that Skype 1.3 beta is out for Linux. It finally supports ALSA, so with a simple setup it will work out of the box. Download: http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/13beta.html , toread for existing bugs: http://juljas.net/linux/skype/08:11
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:11
ballchalkso what are the main differences or philosphies of each linux distro anyway?08:11
Romanoooooooo nice08:11
pete_I know what it does, I just am not certain its easier for new users.  I'm not new, so I'm biased, but I don't like it.08:12
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MitchMpepe_ I remove sudo from my ubuntu install and just login as root when I need to do something that requires such access08:12
Freddy2pete_: i also don't like it.. su is greater imho, but..08:12
pete_since everyone has sudo rights, does that mean that its easier to compromise a ubuntu machine since if you can get user rights, you win?08:12
pete_or is that not true somehow?08:13
MitchMnot everyone should have sudo rights.08:13
Freddy2everyone?08:13
MitchMonly the _main_ non-root user should have sudo rights08:13
pete_well, I only made one user account08:13
Freddy2by default only the first created account..08:13
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pete_so the first user account is a quasi-administrator08:13
Freddy2certainly08:13
georghi08:13
pete_and everyone else has no sudo rights08:13
MitchMother users get nasty "error" messages when they try to use sudo08:13
nagyvI just tried to install Skype 1.3 beta, but it requires a package called Desktop. What is this for?08:13
texas319_has anyone added kubuntu to a windows domain before08:13
texas319_is this even possible08:13
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MitchMtexas319_ why would you want to do so?08:14
MitchMand what does google say on the matter?08:14
Freddy2MitchM: but can you return to a classic root based system?08:14
Admiral_Chicagono08:14
Admiral_Chicagonot on ubuntu08:14
MitchMsure.08:14
Admiral_Chicagounless you want to break the box08:14
MitchMJust remove sudo from the system08:14
MitchM^.^08:14
Admiral_Chicagofrom what i understand08:14
fritschMitchM: no08:14
texas319_because my companies is windows based and i need to access some stuf on the domain08:15
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Freddy2Admiral_Chicago: i this it's possible, by setting the password for root.. isn't it?08:15
fritschMitchM: you can set a root pwd for login, etc.08:15
fritschMitchM: but kde apps are compiled for sudo support08:15
pete_sudo passwd08:15
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fritschpete_: yes of course ... but k3b for example asks for the user password08:15
ymlme again still fighting with my key binding pb for my laptop08:15
Admiral_ChicagoFreddy2, from what I understand, Ubuntu is set up not to require a root account08:15
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fritschpete_: on debian it wants the root login08:15
pete_fritsch: that certainly changes things08:15
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MitchMCLI > GUI08:16
pete_what happens if you aren't the sudo user and are trying to use k3b?08:16
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Freddy2Admiral_Chicago: for several admin tasks su is better than sudo.. you don't have to keep the password valid for a certain period of time like sudo does (15 min i think)08:16
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fritschpete_: thats bad08:16
ymlNow I have store my xmodmap in ~/kde/Autostart but this script reference XF86mail for example08:16
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Freddy2pete_: i suppose you can try kdesu08:17
pete_ah08:17
Admiral_Chicagofrom my own experience, I have yet to find anything that requires me to be su, i have done everythiing sudo08:17
ymlwhere the relation between XF86mail and thunderbird need to be done08:17
fritschyml: you have to store the script there, not the modmap08:17
Admiral_Chicagoi guess if you want to do kdesu kate you can08:17
fritschyml: try xkbsetup08:17
Admiral_Chicagoi just do a sudo nano...08:17
fritschyml: h xbindkeys08:17
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pete_I'm just dissapointed, everyone talks about ubuntu like it's the best thing since sliced bread.  But for experienced users, its really not that great.08:18
MitchMvim > nano08:18
Kiongkuhey guys.. kpersonalizer keeps starting each time i boot up my system.. how to stop it?08:18
MitchMbut ubuntu _is_ great08:18
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nnn0aarg what's up with inetd on kubuntu08:18
MitchMits a "pretty debian"08:18
MitchMand if you think about all the new users to Linux08:18
pete_MitchM: this is true, but I prefer the debian way to the ubuntu way, most of the time08:19
MitchMit is doing great hings08:19
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Freddy2pete_: maybe you should try gentoo, and compile every program you must install08:19
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MitchMname one thing that you like about Debian that ubuntu does wrong?08:19
pete_Freddy2: my HD got hosed, which had gentoo on it. I installed ubuntu since I want have time to recompile gentoo until next week08:19
ymlfritsch>none of these files exist08:19
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Kiongku!kpersonalizer08:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kpersonalizer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:20
Kiongku!info kpersonalizer08:20
ubotukpersonalizer: installation personalizer for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 474 kB, installed size 772 kB08:20
pete_So I'm the last person ubuntu is aiming for, I just thought I'de give it a try since it's all the rage today.08:20
MitchMpete_ name one thing that you like about Debian that ubuntu does wrong?08:20
pete_MitchM: sudo08:20
Admiral_Chicagopete_, you like it?08:20
pete_MitchM: but I understand that its for new users08:20
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MitchMand is that all?08:20
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pete_MitchM: there's not much different. I don't like the brown08:20
MitchMbah08:20
MitchMuse Kubuntu08:21
MitchMkubuntu > ubuntu08:21
pete_MitchM: I am actually08:21
Freddy2well, some people use debian, others (k)ubuntu, others suse.. and i think most people use fedora.. simply try and compare08:21
MitchMah.08:21
MitchMthen change the theme =)08:21
tsdgeosmost people use fedora?08:21
tsdgeoslol08:21
tsdgeosthat's not the perception i have08:21
Admiral_Chicagoi used it at one time08:21
tsdgeosbut yours may be08:21
Admiral_Chicagodidn't like it08:21
Admiral_Chicagoas much as i like kubuntu, its awesome08:21
aliasfredthere is a distwatch about that08:22
Freddy2well, i use opensuse, and currently i'm giving a try to kubuntu.. but i've seen many people trying fedora08:22
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nagyvI am trying to set up a local repository using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocalAptGetRepositoriesTrivial, but I don't know how to set up pbuilder. Could someone help me?08:22
aliasfredubuntu being far ahead, suse behind and the rest being negligible08:22
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fritschFreddy2: first thing i did with opensuse, i installed smart08:22
pete_Fedora is my preferred binary distro.  Ubuntu isn't far behind.  The duo thing and some little annoyances are all that separates them08:22
pete_s/duo/su08:22
fritschFreddy2: yast etc. is sooo damn slow08:22
Admiral_ChicagoFreddy2, i really like kubuntu, its pretty easy to use out of the box08:22
pete_Like why doesn't su forward you X environment variables08:23
pete_you can's su ad them open emacs in a window for example08:23
Freddy2fritsch: i like a simple distro, but i love configure & cia xD08:23
pete_I'm really sorry, I can't type today08:23
fritschpete_: do with your X logged in user: xhost + 127.0.0.108:23
fritschpete_: now it works ...08:23
joschaxhost +localhost @ pete08:24
pete_thank you08:24
robertoCan you get a windows virus in wine?08:24
joschaand then su & emacs08:24
Admiral_Chicagoroberto, no08:24
Freddy2roberto: still here?08:24
fritschroberto: you not :-)08:24
robertolol08:24
robertoi love you guys :P08:24
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joscharoberto: sure, if the apis the virus uses is implentet in wine...08:24
robertolol08:24
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fritschjoscha: could be easier, just copy the content of an infected disk into it - done :-) virus is in08:25
ballchalkhow do i install kubuntu into 1 partition?08:25
Freddy2no swap??08:25
robertois it possible to have a bootcamp virus that can go from os to os or have a virus that runs on machine level?08:25
ballchalkas in having /var /home /etc all in the same disk08:25
joschammmmh the virus could delete all your mp3s in your homedirectory...08:25
ballchalkswap too08:25
ballchalklike mac os x08:26
robertolol08:26
ballchalkroberto no08:26
Freddy2so you need 2 at least.. isnt it?08:26
aliasfredhttp://distrowatch.com/ <- look at 'page hit ranking' it is a sort of the OS run by the people visiting their site... a way to evaluate how widely used is each distro. among their visitors08:26
ballchalkhahah08:26
ballchalkfor swap im not sure if the mac08:26
ballchalkwell08:26
joscharoberto: sure... a virus could start directly after booting the bios and could start the host-OS inside an VM08:26
ballchalkhmmm i dont think so cuz it can span as many swp dumps08:26
pete_aliasfred: and ubuntu wind by a landslide08:26
robertocool joscha08:26
joschabut this would be a pretty complex-virus08:26
robertoyeah08:27
robertolets make it :P08:27
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ballchalkmachine level? never heard of it08:27
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ballchalkheh08:27
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fritschroberto: for "let` s" <- us, you have also to work?08:27
robertowhat shall we call it the open source virus :p08:28
Freddy2ballchalk: well, it could be seen as a way to have a dynamic swap space.. that's all i suppose08:28
ballchalkyea08:28
ballchalkso uh08:28
robertolets make an open source virus under gnu license :p08:28
robertolet everybody help08:28
Freddy2but you need free space for it.. you can use any common file for this (inside a partition)08:28
ballchalkso what did the torvalds say about the new gpl?08:28
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ballchalkwas it a big thing?08:28
fritschroberto: i would pay you 30000 $ for your thoughts while shaving ...08:29
prooghey, i am running kubuntu on my laptop. its max screen resolution is 1280x800, but kubutu will only allow me to go up to 1024x768, which is also good, but i would really like to use the max res. what can i do?08:29
proog*kubuntu08:29
fritschproog: intel chipset?08:29
proogyes08:29
fritschproog: okay, can be tricky08:29
proogbut how?08:30
fritschproog: look at 915resolution tool08:30
Polarbeerwhat about DC? anyone here use it?08:30
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joschadomain controller?08:30
Freddy2XDD08:30
fritschPolarbeer: me again, you mean dc++?08:30
ballchalkonly if fritsch were to be a freebsd user then all would be peaceful08:30
Polarbeeryes08:30
fritschPolarbeer: try valknut08:30
Polarbeerive downloaded it through Adept, but it dnt seem to work08:30
Polarbeernot valknut though08:31
Polarbeeris that better?08:31
fritschproog: download valknut08:31
fritschproog: sorry08:31
proogok08:31
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Freddy2valknut seems to have problems with certain options enabled at windows DC servers, but.. i think it's the best choice08:31
ccc_Polarbeer: linuxdc++ is great08:31
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ccc_it's gtk+ though08:32
fritschproog: sudo apt-get install 915resolution08:32
ccc_fat superior to valknut which hasn't been updated for more than a year08:32
proogso... not valknut?08:32
ccc_*far08:32
fritschproog: after that reboot?08:32
Freddy2ccc_: hmm i've heard about some recent changes in valknut.. maybe at cvs08:33
proogso i apt-get 915resolution and reboot?08:33
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derekSis anyone else here having a problem with lm-sensors? http://pastebin.ca/136483   <---- that is my error, please help :)08:33
fritschproog: please try, yes08:33
Kiongkuppl. How write a script for modprobe to Autostart?08:33
ccc_Freddy2: ok. the GUI gives me a headache though. it's a real mess.08:33
fritschproog: this tool tries to find your resolution automatically08:33
nnn0why can't i find inet.d ?08:34
fritschFreddy2: no real late changes08:34
proogfritsch: couldntfind package 915resolution08:34
nnn0i mean inetd08:34
Freddy2ccc_: certainly its gui is a bit strange08:34
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fritschproog: no?08:34
fritschproog:08:34
fritsch!915resolution08:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 915resolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:34
fritschits in universe08:35
proogok08:35
fritschbut if you have an intel 855 chip08:35
fritschproog: you have to use 855resolution08:35
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Freddy2ccc_: is it a unix port of windows dc++?08:35
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fritschproog: look here: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver08:35
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Freddy2or is simply copying its gui?08:36
fritschFreddy2: ldcpp.berlios.de <- this am i using08:36
ymlI am sorry to insist but I search on all the computer for "XF86mail" and I found a single file where this string is: inet in X11/xkb/symbols08:36
ccc_Freddy2: yes, exactly. there's also a new project called dc-qt which looks promising for us kde users, but it's still (very) alpha.08:36
fritschFreddy2: sorry http://linuxdcpp.berlios.de08:36
Freddy2http://linuxdcpp.berlios.de/articles.php?um=index08:36
proogfritsch: i think it is an Intel 855GME + ICH408:36
ccc_Freddy2: on linuxdc++, there's a great guide at ubuntuforums on installing it (from cvs)08:36
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fritschproog: okay wait08:36
ballchalkburning kubuntu to disc woohoo08:37
nnn0can someone please help me with inetd ?08:37
waspiusi installed some programs with wine but i had a problem and i want to uninstall them,...i clicked on uninstall but they dont uninstall although the process goes through what can i do?08:37
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ymlthis file is not where I can do the mapping between XF86mail and thunderbird08:37
Polarbeervalknut doesnt seem to work either08:37
Polarbeernothing happens when i click "connect"08:37
fritschproog: you can take the howto, but use 855resolution08:37
bigbill52adoes anyone have a kdm default kdmrc?08:37
proogok08:37
Freddy2well, i've tried to and it really works08:37
ccc_Freddy2, Polarbeer: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19398408:37
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Polarbeerty08:38
z421hy08:38
Freddy2ccc_: thx, i'm downloading sources from cvs08:38
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bigbill52ai would like to use a debian default kdmrc...so i can have more control over my log in screen08:39
derekSso no one knows anything about my lm-sensors issue?08:39
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fritschproog: have to leave08:39
proogok08:39
proogbye, fritsch08:39
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z421which sources do i need to install the sun jre?08:40
z421in the debian sid, its in the non-free tree, but where is it in ubuntu?08:41
Hawkwind!java > z42108:41
z421Hawkwind: thanx08:42
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nnn0noone here knows nothing about inetd - i find that hard to believe08:42
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aliasfredyeah me too08:43
aliasfredmaybe some secrets stuff is happening08:43
nnn0:)08:43
Swatgosshi all, i'm french, some1 experienced connection trouble under Kubuntu ?08:44
Swatgosslong loading times under browsers08:44
Swatgossand FTP transfer blocking08:45
aliasfredwhat is your isp08:45
Freddy2modem? router?08:45
Swatgoss1 modem08:45
Swatgoss2 others Pc on router, under win XP08:45
Swatgossand works fine08:45
aliasfredand is the web page downloading ultimatly08:45
aliasfredwhat is your isp08:45
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Swatgossafter a looooong time08:45
aliasfredok ipv608:45
SwatgossFree (in france)08:45
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Freddy2np with linux compatibility and your modem?08:46
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aliasfredyou have to disable ipv608:46
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Swatgossipv6 on my kubuntu ?08:46
aliasfredthe long time is the resolution of dns in ipv608:46
aliasfredit timesout08:46
aliasfredyep08:46
ballchalkbrb08:46
Swatgossand how :/08:46
aliasfreddont remember :) but very simple :)08:46
MitchMjfgi08:46
Swatgosssudo ipv6 -> ipv4 :p08:47
Freddy2hmm something about /etc/modules.conf was related to this08:47
Swatgossbut don t XP use ipv6 too ?08:47
aliasfredhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-87798.html <- Swatgoss08:47
Swatgossty, will look at this08:48
MitchMXP does not use ipv608:48
MitchMnot by default at least08:48
MitchMyou can install it optionally08:48
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Swatgossok, i saw it some times ago in updates or something like this08:48
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MitchM=)08:48
Polarbeerccc_: it doesnt work08:48
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rafaHI all, would like to know why I can't install ssh server08:49
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rafaI only have access to openssh-client08:49
ccc_Polarbeer: at what point doesn't it work?08:49
z421does anyone know if it's possible to regulate more channels with the kmix at the same time? like in the gnome mixer, where you can set which channels are regulated?08:49
MitchMsudo apt-get install ssh?08:49
rafaall the repositoires are up08:49
rafaMitchM: it won't work08:49
Freddy2haha, that's exactly what has happened to me this morning xD08:49
MitchMwhat error do you get?08:49
Freddy2rafa: have you changed your source.list and updated apt?08:49
Polarbeerwhen i hit the cvs-d....08:50
rafait sas that the package isn't available, but some other package references it08:50
rafaFreddy2: yes08:50
MitchMsudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list08:50
MitchMapt-get update08:50
rafaMitchM: ssh just won't work... instead I have openssh-client08:50
MitchMsudo apt-get update*08:50
rafabut no server08:50
Polarbeerit says "bad cvsroot"08:50
Freddy2rafa: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories08:51
MitchMI understand ;-)08:51
MitchMtry; sudo apt-get update08:51
MitchMthen sudo apt-get install ssh and tell me what it says08:51
Swatgoss(oh, does the ping www.xxxxxxx.com in Konsole work ?)08:51
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MitchMswatgoss it should.08:51
Freddy2Swatgoss: why not?08:51
Swatgossbecause its the same comand as CMD.exe08:52
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rafaMitchM: same thing08:52
Freddy2what?08:52
MitchMit says "package isnt available"08:52
rafaMitchM: I've changed the sources.list file for what that page says08:52
Polarbeerccc_: when i type cvs-d:pserver.anonymous... it says "bad CVSROOT"08:52
Swatgosssome commands in Konsole aren't the same as in cmd.exe08:52
Freddy2and why should be the same?08:52
rafaMitchM: great, now it works! really don't know what was missing on my sources.list08:53
rafathanks!!08:53
rafabe right back, thanks!08:53
MitchMrafa: yup :-) anytime08:53
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nnn0so not one of you guys use inetd ? :)08:53
MitchMi use inetd 24/708:53
SwatgossFreddy2: i don't know/care :p just asking if it work, to verify the connection is up08:53
Freddy2which ping08:53
nnn0well do you use inetutils-inetd or netkit-inetd ?08:53
MitchMinetutils08:54
ccc_Polarbeer: works for me. check your typing08:54
aliasfredSwatgoss: yep "ping your.hostname.goes.here" do work08:54
ccc_Polarbeer: copy and paste08:54
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Polarbeerhow do i paste into konsole?08:55
Freddy2shif + insert08:55
aliasfredSwatgoss: "man ping" will give you some documentation about ping. or "ping -h" or "ping --help"08:55
Freddy2shift + insert08:55
ccc_Polarbeer: shift-insert08:55
nnn0k thx08:55
Polarbeerok08:55
Polarbeerthx08:55
Swatgossraaaaa can't translate my sentence in english ...08:55
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Swatgosswhen a page fail in browser, i verify server with "ping www.server.com"08:56
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Swatgossunder Win08:56
anaskiALC850_Linux.zip....how do i install these drivers08:56
MitchMnn0: yup08:56
MitchMnnn0: yup08:56
aliasfredSwatgoss: same on linux. do "ping google.com" to check08:56
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MitchMand then ctrl + c to stop the ping swatgoss08:56
Polarbeerthanks ccc_, now it worked. obviously misspelled something...08:57
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Swatgossuseful to know MitchM08:57
MitchMswatgoss affirmative :-)08:57
anaskior should i go to ubuntu channel but where is that?08:57
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anaski!untar08:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about untar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:58
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MitchMctrl + c is an all-round "end" command08:58
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MitchMuntar?08:58
MitchMtar -xf <filename>08:58
Swatgossunrar08:58
anaskicould you tell me some instructions how to untar and install an untarred file08:58
MitchMto extract08:58
Swatgossoh ...08:59
MitchMtar -xf <filename>08:59
anaskior something08:59
MitchM./configure in the directory08:59
Freddy2ccc_: linuxdc++ looks great.. i'll try it :D thx08:59
MitchMor make install08:59
MitchMthen install\08:59
jujimufuanaski: to extract a tar file, you must say if it's a tar.gz or tar.bz2 . If it's tar.gz, do "tar -xzf filename.tar.gz". If it's tar.bz2, do "tar -xjf filename.tar.bz2"08:59
anaskiits zip08:59
ccc_Freddy2: glad to inform you ;)09:00
MitchMunzip <filename>09:00
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anaskiokay09:01
anaskithen how do i install09:01
anaskiinstall/ filename?09:01
MitchMtry just install09:01
anaskidont know09:01
MitchMor make install09:01
MitchMor ./configure09:02
anaskihow do i make install09:02
MitchMjust type "make install" in the directory09:02
jujimufuanaski: do ./configure09:02
MitchMif your doing this from source09:02
anaskifrom the console09:02
jujimufuanaski: if it finishes without errors, do "make" and if that finishes also without errors, do "sudo make install"09:02
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jujimufuanaski: yeah, from the console. Have you untarred the file?09:03
anaskiive unzipped it now09:03
anaskiit was a zip file09:03
MitchMcd <directory>09:03
MitchM./configure09:03
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jujimufuanaski: ok, do "cd" and then type the name of the directory that just appeared. It's where you extracted it.09:03
MitchMmake09:03
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Swatgossis there any op or moderators on this chan ?09:06
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anaskinow in the directory is a bz2 file09:06
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epitaf-laptopi'm on an AMD Athlon XP-A, 1100 MHz. Should I get the i386 or the AMD64 install?09:06
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SwatgossK lol09:06
SwatgossK709:06
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likuEvening.09:06
Swatgossepitaf-laptop try to find a K7 version09:07
Swatgossand in any case use a AMD64, u don't have a A6409:07
bkudriai am tryng to install kdelibs4c2a, but it complains "kdelibs4c2a: Depends: liblua50 (>= 5.0.2-5ubuntu1) but 5.0.2-5 is to be installed"...how do i fix this?09:07
anaskialc-082604.tar.bz2????09:07
anaskiwhat do i do with this09:08
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Swatgossepitaf-laptop (i mean NEVER use a AMD64 version ...)09:08
anaskiuntar it somehow? and install..that  came from the zipfile09:08
Hawkwindanaski: Untar it09:08
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epitaf-laptopSwatgoss, are you saying that I should NOT use a AMD64? Your sentence was a little hard to understand :)09:08
epitaf-laptopAs far as k7 goes, i cant find a k7 version09:09
Hawkwindanaski: tar xjvf alc-082604.tar.bz09:09
Hawkwindanaski: tar xjvf alc-082604.tar.bz209:09
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ccc_epitaf-laptop: you can install the k7-kernel when the system is installed... so go with the i386 install09:09
bkudriai am tryng to install kdelibs4c2a, but it complains "kdelibs4c2a: Depends: liblua50 (>= 5.0.2-5ubuntu1) but 5.0.2-5 is to be installed"...how do i fix this?09:09
Swatgossepitaf-laptop i know, i'm not english ... use a K7 version, or at least i386 would work, i tested 386 on my Barton09:09
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beleepitaf-laptop: you should use i386 version09:09
anaskithanks09:09
epitaf-laptopok, thanks09:09
anaskibye09:09
likuQuick question: is there somewhere a guide describing *whole* process, how to compile a new kernel on (k/x)buntu?09:10
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Swatgossepitaf-laptop you use CD to install ubuntu ? or do you update your existing kernel ?09:11
Hawkwindliku: I have one09:11
ccc_Polarbeer: you got it working yet?09:11
Hawkwindliku: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=611.009:11
Swatgossepitaf-laptop if u install from a CD select a 386 one, and after, update it to K709:11
Hawkwindliku: That's the one on my forums.  Works very well as I'm currently running 2.6.17.809:11
HawkwindLinux Britannia 2.6.17.8 #1 SMP Wed Aug 9 11:20:13 CDT 2006 i686 GNU/Linux09:11
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fdovingliku: this maybe? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild09:12
likuHawkwind: Does it work with ubuntu? I used to compile my own kernels, but with ubuntu things are a bit different, bootsplash, initrd, etc.09:12
likuHawkwind: I'll take a look.09:13
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epitaf-laptopSwatgoss, i am using a cd09:13
epitaf-laptopok i will update to k7 after the install09:13
epitaf-laptopi might come back and ask how to do :D09:13
Hawkwindliku: I see no reason why it wouldn't work.  It allows you to build what you want or don't want09:13
Hawkwindliku: It also can use your current kernel .config file which makes things a bit easier09:13
Swatgossepitaf-laptop youre (will be ?) welcome :p09:13
DrenheadI cannot get flash to work correctly in Firefox or Opera.  they run for about 2 seconds then freeze.09:14
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likuHawkwind: Perfect, that's what I was looking for :) - thanks.09:14
epitaf-laptophehe thanks (in advance?) ;)09:15
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bkudriai am tryng to install kdelibs4c2a, but it complains "kdelibs4c2a: Depends: liblua50 (>= 5.0.2-5ubuntu1) but 5.0.2-5 is to be installed"...how do i fix this?09:15
Swatgossbkudria install liblua50 ?09:15
epitaf-laptopSwatgoss, I might add that it's Ubuntu I'm installing, but maybe that doesn't make a difference?09:16
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Swatgossepitaf-laptop nope don't make much difference09:16
epitaf-laptopok09:16
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bkudriaSwatgoss: i did...but it still complaisn09:17
bkudriacomplains*09:17
fdovingbkudria: 'sudo apt-get install liblua50=5.0.2-5ubuntu1'09:17
Swatgossepitaf-laptopi think kernels are the same (is it wright ?)09:17
ccc_epitaf-laptop: except kubuntu is better ;)09:17
ccc_Swatgoss: yes that's correct. same repos09:17
Swatgossbkudria like in windows, remove/reinstall09:17
fdovingbkudria: and remove unofficial repositories from /etc/apt/sources.list or kmenu -> system -> adept manager -> manage repositories.09:17
bkudriafdoving: i used the source-o-matic...i should undo that09:18
bkudria?09:18
bkudriaSwatgoss: ok, i'll try09:18
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fdovingbkudria: maybe, can you put the output of 'apt-cache policy liblua50' on http://kubuntu.pastebin.com ?09:18
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Swatgoss(network "stupid" question/confirmation: FTP transfers are affected by ipv6 slow down ?)09:22
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likuSwatgoss: Yes, assuming that ftp goes through ipv6.09:22
aliasfredSwatgoss: only the connection establishement is affected.09:22
Hawkwindliku: Glad to hear it.  Let me know how it works out for ya09:22
Swatgossoh, i had problems during transfers :p09:22
Swatgosssomething strange09:23
likuHawkwind: I will have to wait till tommarow :/, at the moment I don't have a decent Inet connection.09:23
Hawkwindliku: Ok.  You can always register on my forums and post a comment or let me know here as well09:25
HawkwindSeveas: You around by chance ?09:25
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SeveasHawkwind, yes09:25
Tokeiitowhat lib has SDL.h file?09:25
HawkwindSeveas: Got a minute for a pm concerning the bot ?09:25
SeveasTokeiito, libsdl1.2-dev oslt09:25
jeff_hannlibsdl09:25
TokeiitoSeveas: thanx09:26
SeveasHawkwind, if it's about not being able to add/edit factoids: I know, otherwise: sure, pm is open 09:26
bkudriafdoving: the kubuntu paste timed out, but here you go: http://pastebin.ca/13654509:26
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fdovingbkudria: ok, looking..09:26
HawkwindSeveas: Ah ok.  Wasn't sure if you got the message or not.  Hobbsee tried to add one for me this morning and the bot told her no :P09:26
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Kiongkuhey guys.. how can i setup this command "modprobe videodev" to auto load on startup?09:27
SeveasHawkwind, i've been working on the bot but unfortunately it's in a semi-broken state for a few days already -- some personal things got in the way of finishing the update.09:27
aguilarhello09:28
SwatgossHow can i set my own desktop resolution on my desktop, under Kubuntu (basic system, just after a fresh install), on win i use a 1200x900 desktop on 2 screens (2400x900 if u prefer), and i got a 6600GT09:28
fdovingbkudria: oh.. you're on breezy. Are you sure you don't have any dapper repositories in your sources.list? mixing dapper and breezy might make problems.09:28
HawkwindSeveas: Ah ok.  Well glad to hear you are aware of it and hopefully we can get the facts added soon enough09:28
aguilartengo un problema con la placa de red en kubuntu09:28
SeveasHawkwind, sure -- tonight won't be possible but if it's not fixed by tomorrow I should be fired ;)09:29
bkudriafdoving: i'm on breezy?  oh...maybe i checked the wrong option in source-o-matic...i'm actually on dapper09:29
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bkudriafdoving: that would explain it...thanks09:29
HawkwindSeveas: Hah!  Can't have you fired, then noone would maintain the bot :)09:29
fdovingbkudria: that's explains it then. :)09:29
fdoving-'s09:29
aguilarno hay un canal spanish ?'09:29
Hawkwindaguilar: English here.  Or try in #Kubuntu-ES09:29
Kiongkuhawkwind: any idea to my question?09:29
aguilarthank09:30
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HawkwindKiongku: When you modprobe something, it should set that to be loaded on boot automatically09:30
HawkwindKiongku: That's the point of modprobe09:30
KiongkuHawkwind: well that one modprobe videodev does not.. i have to put it each time my system restart09:31
HawkwindKiongku: Have you tried adding videodev to your /etc/modules file ?09:32
bkudriafdoving: thanks for the help !09:32
KiongkuHawkwind: yeah trying now brb restart system as test09:32
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Kiongkuhawkwind: nah its still not good..09:37
KiongkuHawkwind: one more thing.. kpersonalizer keeps opening each time i boot up.. how do i stop it?09:37
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office_hello09:38
HawkwindKiongku: Remove it from your startup file09:38
office_can anyone help me install one movie player?09:38
Swatgossdo u got Kaffeine ?09:38
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Swatgossu just need codecs to get it wrok09:38
belehmm is there an easy way to solve my problem: clock was set to future (one hour or so). I set NTP on and voila - correct time. But now I'm unable to sudo anything09:38
office_i have it09:38
Swatgosswork*09:38
KiongkuHawkwind: where is it?09:38
office_but it does nt works properly09:39
Swatgoss!codecs09:39
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:39
office_ah09:39
office_and how can i install codecs?09:39
Swatgosssee restricted formats09:39
office_!codecs09:39
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:39
belesudo: timestamp too far in the future:09:39
Swatgossi found all codecs i need to play all format09:39
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Swatgossand before this i spend at least 3 weeks without MP3 or vids ...09:39
office_this is first time when i use linux09:40
Swatgosswasn't mine :'(09:40
Swatgossits not difficult09:40
Swatgossu just have to add some repositories09:40
belewell ... I guess my problem will be solved in one hour or so :)09:40
Swatgosson /etc/apt/sources.list (i'm not sure)09:40
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Swatgossadd them and install the packages listed09:41
Swatgossand enjoy :p09:41
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HawkwindKiongku: Can you paste your /etc/modules to a pastebin09:42
HawkwindKiongku: Startup file is in ~/.kde or something IIRC09:42
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draikHello everyone09:45
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draikI am not able to log into my kubuntu desktop09:45
draikI am stuck on a loop trying to log in09:46
KiongkuHawkwind: cant find startup file09:47
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HawkwindKiongku: I don't remember where it is since I don't use KDE :P09:47
KiongkuHawkwind: hehe lol09:48
KiongkuHawkwind: btw there's nothingn much in the modules.. just lp and psmouse on different lines09:48
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HawkwindKiongku: Yeah I can't find the file Ubuntu uses.  In Mandriva it was /etc/modprobe.conf09:49
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KiongkuHawkwind: doh.. nvm its my webcam and i dunt use it often anyway.. just got to remember that command XD09:50
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charles1952Help please! Being a newbie I have been messing with things that I shouldn't...namely the resources.list repository file. After doing a complete update I apparently installed a non-stable version of Kubuntu or the KDE front end. I find that many programs that I try to install crash during the installation process. Does anyone know how I can go back to the original configuration without having to do a completely new re-install?09:55
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Hawkwindcharles1952: You upgraded KDE to 3.5.4 and want to revert ?09:55
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larson9999hmmm my machine has locked up a few times now with a white screen09:56
draiklarson9999, I can't even log in09:56
draikI'm stuck in console09:56
larson9999draik: lol09:56
charles1952I don't know the version number. I do get a boot prompt that asks whether I want Kubuntu 23 or 26 to boot.09:56
larson9999ok that's not funny09:56
larson9999draik: well, then you're logged on09:57
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Hawkwindcharles1952: Ok.  What happens when the system boots ?09:57
draiklarson9999, not really09:57
draikno kde09:57
larson9999sounds like you just need your graphics card setup09:57
h3sp4wnkde 3.5.4 hardlocks various machines for me (approx 1 / 2 times a day)09:57
Swatgosscharles1952 this looks normal ... (grub screen)09:57
larson9999h3sp4wn: happened to me twice on 3.5.2.  that's why i upgraded :)09:57
xav_wow09:57
draiklarson9999, I needed to log in this morning to get my resume for a job and I had to tell him to get it from online.09:57
Hawkwinddraik: Are you using Nvidia drivers and recently done a kernel update or something and haven't reinstalled the drivers ?09:57
draikluckily I added it09:57
xav_kubuntu seems awfully unstable hearing you09:58
Hawkwindcharles1952: Please keep the conversation here in the channel09:58
draikHawkwind, nothing but the recent updates from adept09:58
draiksorry, adept updater09:58
xav_better use windows09:58
larson9999h3sp4wn: i'll try gnome out and see if it happens there.09:58
Hawkwindcharles1952: Open something like konqueror and click on Help then About09:58
h3sp4wnlarson9999: what is the problem ?09:58
Hawkwindcharles1952: That will tell you your KDE version09:59
charles1952okay09:59
charles1952BRB09:59
larson9999the screen goes white and no manner of key combinations i know do anything i can tell.09:59
LeeJunFanh3sp4wn: no lock problems for me.09:59
charles1952Version 3.5.4 is what I'm running.09:59
larson9999h3sp4wn: i googled for white screen and didn't find anything that looked like my prob10:00
draiknot being able to log in is annoying10:00
Hawkwindcharles1952: So you want to revert back to 3.5.3 then ?10:00
charles1952Hawkwind: And I will keep the conv. in this panel..thanks.10:01
h3sp4wnlarson9999: what video card ?10:01
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charles1952Is 3.5.3 the latest stable release?10:01
larson9999h3sp4wn: radeon xpress 200.  it's embedded in my mobo10:01
Hawkwindcharles1952: Yes.  3.5.4 has had issues for many users.  I reverted back to it as well10:01
draikHawkwind, I go to log in, type my password, it seems like its about to log in and then just goes back to asking me for my password again10:01
h3sp4wnlarson9999: Are you using the fglrx from the repos or the later ones ?10:01
Hawkwinddraik: Error messages in pastebin would be a lot more helpful10:01
charles1952Hawkwind: Okay...how do I revert?10:02
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draikI can't go online to pastebin10:02
draikit's just a loop10:02
Hawkwindcharles1952: First, can you put your /etc/apt/sourcs.list into http://pastebin.ulteo.us please10:02
Hawkwinddraik: There are console browsers, like links or lynx10:02
h3sp4wndraik: Sounds like some files in your home directory are possibly owned by root10:02
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draikh3sp4wn, how would I go about changing that?10:03
LeeJunFanEver since upgrading to 3.5.4 I haven't been able to burn DVD's well, oddly though k3b doesn't seem to be a package which was updated according to /var/log/dpkg.log, and mkisofs,growisofs also have not been updated.10:03
charles1952Hawkwind: Okay...give me a minute and I will send the URL10:03
larson9999h3sp4wn: hmmm i forgot how i installed this.  this is my time with ati.  i'll figure that out and let you know.10:03
Hawkwindcharles1952: Ok, thanks10:03
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h3sp4wndraik: chown -R yourusername * && chown -R yourusername .* (as root)10:04
larson9999h3sp4wn: is installed using #4 from this site: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/64489-ati-radeon-xpress-200-cant-change-screen-resolution.html10:05
draikholy crapolla...10:05
draikI am using 100% of my partition10:05
draikI'm sure that's what's causing it10:05
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larson9999draik that'll cause all sorts of problems :)10:05
h3sp4wn5% should be reserved for root by default10:05
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charles1952Hawkwind: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/55 is where it is stored.10:06
draikhow do I delete a directory?10:07
Hawkwindcharles1952: PM me and I'll help you revert back to 3.5.310:07
Hawkwinddraik: rm -r10:07
draikrm -?10:07
draikthank you10:07
draikOk.10:08
draikHere goes nothing10:08
draikTime to log back in10:08
SwatgossCan Konqueror show the usage% of a HDD, like Win do ? (i use df to see it, but not really simple way to see this info)10:09
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enzoSwatgoss, open konsole and type 'df -h'10:10
enzoThat's basic though10:11
Swatgossin Konqueror :p10:11
cannonballSwatgoss: kdf is an app that does what you want, though not in konq.10:11
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LeeJunFanSwatgoss: you can go to "Storage Media" and right click a device and get properties, and then check size but it actually does a more intensive check of all files sizes and takes a while.10:11
LeeJunFanwhich I think is a bit stupid.10:12
Swatgossyep thats why i asked for Konqueror option like "df"10:12
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chbaker__hello all...10:12
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Swatgossi also can use the "space use displayer" (don't know the name in english10:13
Swatgoss)10:13
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Swatgossbut not as ergonimic as win display ...10:13
h3sp4wnlarson9999: I would try downloading the very latest drivers from ati.com - then opt to build packages for dapper10:14
Freddy2why don't u use kdf?10:14
Swatgosscause i just think about the option in konqueror :p10:14
h3sp4wnlarson9999: They have made alot of changes recently which are worth havnig10:14
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draikI'm in10:16
draikThank you all for your help10:16
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larson9999h3sp4wn: ok i will10:17
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Polarbeerccc_: sorry... had to do other things for a while. Now it seems to be working. I'm connected and all, but i get the message "Hashing Failed: Unable to read hash data file"10:19
larson9999h3sp4wn: i tried that before but one of the options wasn't build for dapper so i didn't know what to pick10:20
Freddy2http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/17/sun_buys_hp/ <- "hewlett packard/compaq" is the same than "hewlett and packard"?10:20
h3sp4wninci10:20
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slow-motionhallo10:21
h3sp4wnlarson9999: when you get the file just do chmod +x ATI-whatever.run10:21
ccc_Polarbeer: you installed it to /usr/local as the howto described, right?10:21
h3sp4wnlarson9999: then ./ATI-whatever.run --help (the option is something like --buildpkg Ubuntu/Dapper10:21
larson9999h3sp4wn: ok.10:21
Polarbeerccc_: yes10:21
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h3sp4wnlarson9999: It should give you a few debs - possibly not the kernel module for the running kernel - but it may do (I don't have any ati stuff anymore)10:22
ccc_Polarbeer: do: ls -l ~/.dc++/      to see if you own the contents of that dir10:22
larson9999h3sp4wn: i'll check it out.10:23
Freddy2hmm next time i'll try to read also the body of the article.. XD10:23
larson9999Freddy2: just yell at them for not making better titles10:23
ccc_Polarbeer: what i meant was your username should be to the left of the file names, in both the user and group column :)10:24
Polarbeerccc_: i do, except for HaschData.dat10:24
Polarbeeri created the file as root, because i got an error10:24
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Polarbeerbefore it said "couldnt locate file hashdata.dat" or something10:25
Polarbeerso i created it10:25
Polarbeerbut i used chmod to give myself permissions (i was logged in as root)10:25
ccc_Polarbeer: you mean you ran the program as root?10:25
Polarbeerno10:25
Polarbeercreated it manually in console mode, just an empty file10:26
Polarbeerrunning the console as root10:26
ccc_Polarbeer: oh ok, i wouldn't recommend that. delete the file and restart10:26
Polarbeerrestart dc++?10:26
ccc_yes10:27
Polarbeerok10:27
ccc_as your user10:27
Polarbeerok10:27
trappistafter upgrading to an amd64 install, kmail can no longer do ntlm authentication.  anybody know where I should start looking to fix this?10:27
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larson9999ok, going to start building my mainframe.  this is just about as exciting as when i first found out i can run unix at home!10:28
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Polarbeerccc_: ok, now its hashing very much10:31
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ccc_\o/10:31
jordo23Is there a help doc or howto on how to install flash player for Konqueror?10:31
h3sp4wnlarson9999: You can get some seriously cool looking sun stuff quite cheap these days10:31
Polarbeerccc_: thanks for your help! :D10:32
Swatgossfor Konq ? i installed the flash for mozilla and Konq play flashs10:32
larson9999h3sp4wn: you mean real sun stuff?  i'm taking mainframe emulator10:32
jordo23I don't have Mozilla installed.10:32
Swatgosstry to install its plugin10:32
Swatgossfrom flash.com (or something like that)10:33
Swatgoss(mozilla = firefox for me=10:33
Swatgoss)10:33
jordo23Swatgoss: If I install it for Firefox it will work for Konq?10:33
h3sp4wnlarson9999: I am talking about having a mainframe10:34
ccc_Polarbeer: glad to help :)10:34
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Swatgosson my sys it works on Konq and firefox, since i iinstalled the plugin10:34
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larson9999h3sp4wn: me too.  i'm going to set up a machine deditcated to running hercules + mvs38j.  very close to the first mainframe i worked on.  and not too terrible different from the one i work on now(or did until a couple weeks ago).10:35
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larson9999h3sp4wn: i've tried it out and it works rather well.10:36
larson9999h3sp4wn: and the price is right :)10:37
Polarbeerccc_: den blockar mig frn att PM:a (oregistrerad anvndare..). tack fr tipsen!10:37
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apallo19is anyone familiar with attaching evolution to exchange server?10:37
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h3sp4wnlarson9999: xen and usermodelinux are quite interesting10:39
larson9999yeah10:39
office_who is romanian in here?10:40
fdovingapallo19: you might have more success asking that in #ubuntu, as evolution is the default PIM there. we use kontact/kmail.10:40
apallo19ahh10:40
apallo19thanks10:40
fdovingyou're welcome.10:40
jottapallo19: what's the actual problem? worked fine here.. ;)10:41
jeff_hannoffice_, i am10:41
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_uwohi all. have question regarding ipod - when i mount the ipod it mounts correctly, i can sync it, everything OK, but it is displayed as a "mounted camera" and gets the "camera" icon. where are these settings set? how can i change it to being recognised as an ipod or at least a removable drive?10:44
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Swatgossi make smthing in my aliases list, it tells to reboot ... Ctrl+Alt+Bckspace is enough or computer restart needed ?10:48
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fdovingSwatgoss: what alias list?10:48
Swatgossthis one /etc/modprobe.d/aliases10:49
Swatgossfor deactivating ipv610:49
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fdovingSwatgoss: reboot to activate changes, as the modules are loaded at boot time. and the ipv6 module is loaded already. If you don't want to reboot you can unload the ipv6 module with the command 'sudo rmmod ipv6'.10:51
Swatgossi prefer reboot :p windows stale :p10:51
fdovingit's often the easiest :)10:51
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Swatgossu tell me how to unload but how to reload :p i will have to reboot too ...10:52
fdovingi tell you how to unload, not reload.10:52
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xav_hu, rebooting instead of simply removing a module is stupid10:53
SwatgossI'm stupid :p10:53
xav_for some more complicated stuff, I don't know, but here..10:53
fdovingxav_: it's not stupid if you want to check that it's not re-loaded at boot time.10:53
xav_fdoving: you'll reboot sooner or later to find out10:54
Swatgoss!codecs10:54
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fdovingxav_: sure, but then you might have forgotten some of the changes you did that should be activated during next reboot, and so on.. a reboot of a desktop system doesn't hurt if you have the time and patience :)10:55
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Swatgossi got loooot of time ...10:55
Swatgossand moooore patience10:55
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SwatgossSee You all :p10:56
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jordo23I am trying to install flashplayer for Konq, and I show it as a listed plugin under the config section, but it does not work. Anyone know why?10:56
jordo23I ran through the installer script for flashplayer and it stated it was complete with no errors.10:57
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xav_first kde 3.5.4 kubuntu packages had problems?10:57
kyle_ello10:58
kyle_just installed kubuntu10:58
xav_jordo23: I'm glad when flash doesn't work, what a stupid crap :)10:58
jordo23xav: I want it to work though....any ideas?10:58
xav_sorry, no10:58
kyle_does anyone know how i can increase the mouse sensitivity?10:58
kyle_wait10:59
xav_which mouse?10:59
kyle_how do i enable root?10:59
Freddy2xDD10:59
xav_you don't10:59
xav_use sudo10:59
kyle_the trackpad on the laptop10:59
kyle_oh10:59
xav_ho10:59
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xav_hm10:59
kyle_so how would i go enabling root?10:59
xav_you don't10:59
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kyle_er10:59
Dasnipa`xav_, you _can_11:00
xav_you don't need to11:00
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Dasnipa`you can enable root but sudo works as well11:00
xav_actually, it annoyed me the first time11:00
kyle_yea i can see why11:00
h3sp4wnjordo23: "Settings" (next to Help) > "Configure Konqueror" Scroll down the side to plugins #11:00
kyle_security reasons11:00
h3sp4wnjordo23: "Settings" (next to Help) > "Configure Konqueror" Scroll down the side to plugins Click "Scan for new plugins"11:00
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h3sp4wn#11:00
xav_but recently, I finally found I preferred using sudo :)11:00
kyle_well the trackpad response is really bad11:00
xav_so it always uses my user settings11:01
h3sp4wnjordo23: It should fid it then (if you installed flashplugin-nonfree from multiverse)11:01
xav_and completion works out of the box11:01
xav_it kicks ass :)11:01
xav_kyle_: maybe you can edit xorg.conf11:01
kyle_like my index finger is aching cuz the trackpad isn't sensitive11:01
kyle_oh ok11:01
xav_kyle_: you don't know which driver is used?11:01
kyle_lemme get to it11:01
swatgossSwat is back11:01
kyle_xav uh no idea11:01
jordo23h3sp4wn: what's the package name?11:01
xav_hm I had a weird bug on debian11:01
xav_don't know if it happens on ubuntu too11:01
kyle_i am a switcher from mac os x --> kubuntu11:02
xav_try modprobe -r psmouse && modprobe psmouse11:02
kyle_ok modprobe it is11:02
kyle_hold on11:02
h3sp4wnjordo23: flashplugin-nonfree11:02
kyle_do i sudo for that?11:02
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xav_kyle_: yes11:02
office_so11:03
office_i can`t play movies11:03
office_:(11:03
kyle_awe crap11:03
office_!codecs11:03
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swatgoss(translation ? modprobe in french, or at least the complete name of this "thing" in english ?)11:03
kyle_my mouse froze11:03
kyle_what the he1111:03
xav_kyle_: did you reload it?11:03
kyle_how? i ran that command and my mouse froze11:03
kyle_how do i unfreeze it?11:03
xav_sudo modprobe psmouse11:04
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swatgossmicrowave ?11:04
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xav_maybe that too11:04
swatgoss(sorry)11:04
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kyle_xav it took that command but didn't unfreeze it11:04
kyle_still frozen11:04
h3sp4wnjordo23: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats (If you just install everything on that page you will have everything you need)11:04
kyle_i dind't crash the mouse cursor did it11:04
xav_you're 100% sure you reloaded it?11:05
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xav_lsmod | grep psmouse11:05
kyle_xav how do i reload it?11:05
kyle_ok hold on11:05
swatgossreset button on PC case ...11:05
kyle_it shows psmouse running i think?11:06
kyle_lsmod |grep psmouse shows it11:06
xav_works fine here11:06
xav_what do you see in dmesg ?11:07
kyle_hmmm11:07
kyle_holdon11:07
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kyle_dmesg | grep *ouse displays ps2 mouse device common for all device whatever thta means11:09
kyle_ok ima restart11:09
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office_ok still not workking11:09
office_getting angry11:09
kyle_xav u there?11:09
Freddy2kyle_: ps2 mouses require to switch off the pc completely, and then restart for working again11:09
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office_installed codecs and mplayer and nothing...11:09
office_:((11:09
kyle_awe man11:10
kyle_thanks freddy11:10
kyle_brb11:10
office_!player11:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:10
office_!players11:10
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs11:10
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office_!mplayer11:10
ubotumplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer11:10
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.11:10
TheGateKeeperoffice_: I use amaroK, xine engine, libxine-extracodecs and w32codec11:10
swatgosscool after 75secs deconnection Konversation loads the missed sentences11:11
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gebruikerI need to clone my hd to other hd's trough cd/dvd automaticly. What options are there?11:16
swatgosson 2 PCs ?11:16
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gebruikerswatgoss: 10 pc's but no network11:17
swatgossouch11:17
gebruikerall identical hardware11:17
swatgossi only got 2 PCs in my room :p11:17
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dragonkhhello11:17
MitchM_did you use our friend google gebruiker11:17
MitchM_?11:17
swatgossso i don't have large scale solutions for u ...11:17
dragonkhmy 64 bit dapper install hangs on vga frambuffer line 0 any one got a clue11:18
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gebruikerMitchM_: not found anyuthing usefull11:18
kyle_hlloo11:18
kyle_got mouse back11:18
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kyle_ok11:18
kyle_down to mouse issues11:18
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kyle_how do i increase mouse sensitivity?11:18
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MitchM_gebruiker - so you want to create/setup a single machine; and then make an install cd based on the configuration of that machine?11:20
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swatgosskyle_ Mouse in system parameters11:21
gebruiker MitchM_ I want to store this instlation on other identical hardware machines, yes, through a install cd/dvd.11:21
TheGateKeeperkyle_: System Settings -> mOUSE11:21
Fri13Hello, is rt2570 WLAN drivers how well supported with kubuntu?11:21
xav_kyle_: you can try to edit them in the control center. if this doesn't work, in X config11:21
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MitchM_try partimg11:21
TheGateKeeperooops11:21
MitchM_partimage*11:21
MitchM_!info partimage11:21
ubotupartimage: backup partitions into a compressed image file. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-14 (dapper), package size 261 kB, installed size 936 kB11:21
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h3sp4wngebruike: If they are identical you can just use dd (nothing fancy is needed)11:22
MitchM_!info dd11:22
ubotuPackage dd does not exist in dapper11:22
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h3sp4wncoreutils: /bin/dd11:23
MitchM_!info mondo11:23
ubotumondo: powerful disaster recovery suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.06-1 (dapper), package size 462 kB, installed size 1352 kB11:23
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TheGateKeeperMitchM_: is partimg better than just using tar??11:24
MitchMfor what purpose?11:24
TheGateKeeperMitchM: backup11:24
MitchMof?11:24
MitchMMySQL databases?11:25
TheGateKeeperhard disk11:25
MitchMor an entire install?11:25
MitchMsi.11:25
MitchMcheck into mondo11:25
MitchMalso11:25
MitchM"man mondo"11:25
MitchMtar is better for "smaller" projects11:25
MitchMlike creating rotating backups on an existing HD11:25
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MitchMi.e. mysql databases11:25
MitchMlogs11:26
MitchMetc etc11:26
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h3sp4wngebruiker: http://www.rajeevnet.com/hacks_hints/os_clone/os_cloning.html (I have done what you want just using dd and netcat)11:26
TheGateKeeperMitchM: no man:mondo so probable have to install it11:27
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MitchMwell; you can install it or google the man docs.11:27
MitchMlet me pull up a url for you11:27
TheGateKeeperMitchM: got it thanx :-)11:28
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MitchMyuppers11:29
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swatgossyuppee + supers ?11:29
swatgosslol11:29
MitchMor...11:29
kyle_how do i run firefox?11:30
MitchMyup + pers11:30
kyle_i just downloaded it11:30
swatgossK menu > Internet > firefox web browser11:30
MitchMwell the crude way of doing it would be going into the CLI11:30
admin__anyone know why when I set my preferences to use VLC instead of amarok it doesn't stay tat way?11:30
MitchMaye. what he said.11:30
swatgosskyle_ downloaded or installed ?11:30
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SakirethGuys, in KDE, when i try to configure my second panel, it configures to bottom panel, the main one. there's no neat popup, whatsoever, either. and i really need the solution to this quick, because i need to sleep.11:30
kyle_swatgoss it's not installed11:30
kyle_i only extracted it11:30
swatgosskyle_ use ADEPT11:30
swatgosswill install all u need11:31
swatgossautomaticaly11:31
swatgossdependencies, libs, updates11:31
swatgossK menu > System > Adept11:31
swatgossand search firefox11:31
MitchMor in the sli type sudo apt-get install firefox11:31
Sakirethanyone?11:31
SakirethGuys, in KDE, when i try to configure my second panel, it configures to bottom panel, the main one. there's no neat popup, whatsoever, either. and i really need the solution to this quick, because i need to sleep.11:31
MitchMsudo apt-get install firefox11:31
fdovingSakireth: please don't repeat your question every minute. We did see your first post.11:32
MitchMsorry sakireth; I have no answers for you.11:32
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dragonkhanyone got a clue what my frambuffer install problem is on dapper?11:32
Sakirethfdoving: Good. but, the problem is, i can't sleep until i know it11:32
MitchMgoogle; its your friend.11:32
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MitchMno idea dragonkh11:33
MitchMcan you boot into the command line?11:33
MitchMi.e. install a "server" copy11:33
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MitchMand then try and isntall a GUI from there11:33
Sakirethsolved it11:33
Sakireth^_^11:33
dragonkhI cant boot up at all from the install disk - it switches to frambuffer and then hangs11:34
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MitchMhmm11:34
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fdovingSakireth: doesn't matter to me, be polite and wait for answers. You're not more important than others requesting help. Now, to your problem, in the 'panel configuration' on top of the page, you can choose the panel to configure in the dropdown menu..  'main panel' and your other panels.11:34
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h3sp4wndragonkh: desktop or altenative iso ?11:34
kyle_apt-get downloads a whole new firefox11:35
kyle_i've already donwloaded it11:35
swatgossthe one from adept is better :p11:35
kyle_so if i were to run the install off my drive, how would i do that11:35
dragonkhh3sp4wn 64 bit install disk - desktop11:35
kyle_oh i just ran adept and updated my system but i didn't see firefox11:35
swatgosskyle_ do u have multiverse ?11:36
swatgossi think its in multiverse11:36
kyle_whre do i find thta in my system?11:36
swatgossin your sources.list11:36
kyle_uhm11:36
swatgossadd multiverse repos11:36
kyle_ok firefox installed11:36
kyle_but it's not in the menu11:37
kyle_where did i tog11:37
kyle_heh11:37
swatgosssometimes firefox don't appear exactly when u install it11:37
kyle_gotta go run and  type firefox11:38
Freddy2try launching manually from konsole.. if works create a new shorcut at desktop (for example)11:38
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kyle_yea i ran from command line11:38
kyle_whereis firefox will find it?11:38
Sannekyle_: be aware that when you download and install programs manually, the package manager of kubuntu has no way of knowing of this program, and also can't add it to the menu.11:38
swatgosstry restarting GUI for updating menus ... (i don't know other way to update them)11:38
kyle_go tit11:38
h3sp4wndragonkh: Try the alterntive iso - or do you not have the means to download and burn it ?11:38
kyle_haha goooo tit11:38
kyle_got it11:38
Sannelol11:38
kyle_sanne i used apt-get11:39
Freddy2which firefox11:39
dragonkhh3sp4wn - hmm I could burn it tomorrow at work11:39
kyle_which would you prefer that i use?11:39
Sannekyle_: ahm you did? Sorry then... :)11:39
kyle_im new to kubuntu11:39
Freddy2simply try to11:39
fdovingSakireth: did that work for you?11:39
swatgosskyle_try to use ADEPT at its max11:39
kyle_i used os x and man no acpi on my laptop11:39
dragonkhh3sp4wn I have a nvidia 7950 - maybe thats the problem - maybe linux doesnt support it11:39
Sannekyle_: if you're new, definitely stick with the package manager if possible.11:39
swatgossif u don't want to eat command lines11:39
MitchM<Sakireth> solved it11:39
MitchM[15:34]  <Sakireth> ^_^11:39
kyle_swatgoss really11:39
kyle_?11:39
kyle_o11:39
fdovingMitchM: thanks :)11:39
kyle_cap11:40
MitchMfdoving: Affirmative :-)11:40
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kyle_crap* so if i wanna uninstall firefox then .........11:40
kyle_how would i do it11:40
swatgossno idea :p11:40
swatgosswith ADEPT just check uninstall :p11:40
swatgossand apply11:41
kyle_awe crap11:41
kyle_ok11:41
fdovinggnite.11:41
h3sp4wndragonkh: I think it will support it (with the binary nvidia drivers) if you install with the other cd you will install in a vga text mode - then you can install the binary nvidia drivers and you should be fine11:41
cannonballWhat's a gui app to use to do a suspend?11:42
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h3sp4wndragonkh: You could try adding xforcevesa - to the boot line11:44
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kyle_how can i add an icon to firefox?11:44
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swatgosskyle_right clic modify11:45
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testerhey guys, I'm trying to get chinese characters to dispaly in kubuntu, can anyone help?11:45
kyle_swatgoss on the shell script11:46
kyle_?11:46
swatgossshell ?11:46
swatgossdunno11:46
testerkyle_: on the icon on your desktop11:46
kyle_yea i found the /usr/bin/firefox11:46
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swatgosskyle_ u can change the icon from menu editor11:46
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swatgossbut if u use the default "FIREFOX" icon, it sux a bit on the board11:47
kyle_yea i dont' have an icon11:47
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dragonkhh3sp4wn - ok thanks - what does that do11:48
swatgossdefault ... mean icon named firefox in menu editor11:48
kyle_so everytime i run firefox i'll have to fire up the terminal?11:48
h3sp4wndragonkh: It would use the vesa driver instead of nv (I think)11:48
h3sp4wndragonkh: The easiest method would be to just download the alternative iso though11:49
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swatgosskyle_ u installed it from ADEPT ? if yes u will have an icon in K menu11:49
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kyle_that's the thing i didn't i got firefox via apt-get11:51
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kyle_so i just did ln -s /usr/bin/firefox firefox11:52
kyle_o well11:52
kyle_thanks heh11:52
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solus_hello, if anyone knows anything about 6.06 on pavillion notebooks i would appreciate a little advice on a hardware issue11:53
kyle_hmmm11:54
swatgosssolus_ wich kind ?11:54
kyle_ADEPT does show i got firefox installed after i did it using apt-get11:54
kyle_brb11:54
solus_zv5230us11:55
swatgosskyle_ adept rocks :p11:55
swatgosssolus_ and in HUMAN language ? :p11:55
solus_umm, wait, 5320us lol11:55
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swatgosssolus_ CPU RAM GC ?11:55
swatgoss+ chipset11:55
solus_ok, got you, its an athelon 3200+, 512 ram, nvidia chipset11:56
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swatgosssolus_ and your problem is ?11:56
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solus_that everything works perfectly except anything on the outside of the comp, lol.  for example, the sound card works well, but the headphone jack doesnt owrk11:57
solus_neither do the usbs, mic jack, and the oddest thing, the volume controls11:57
solus_who light up when i use the mixer to mute or such, so they only half dont work11:57
swatgosssolus_ jack don't work !!!! ????!!!!11:57
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cannonballsolus_: You have an interesting definition of "works perfectly".11:58
solus_correct, i tried it with 3 different headphones.11:58
solus_i said everything inside workd perfectly, lol11:58
cannonballheh11:58
swatgosssolus_ the jack is solded to sound card :p11:58
swatgossin a kind of short cut ...11:58
solus_i know, im better building pcs then i am with this software part11:59
swatgosssolus_ u have another OS installed ?11:59
solus_the jack worked 9 days ago under windows, and 3 sets of headphones didnt work11:59
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solus_not anymoew11:59
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solus_i couldnt get windows back on after the last crash, so i wiped and linuxed, and now i learn as i go11:59
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swatgosssolus_ very strange ... every time i got jack not working it was a physical problem12:00
solus_alright, then as long as that isnt a usual thing, ill check out the hardware tomorrow in the light12:00
swatgosssolus_ try an other live CD ?12:01
solus_only knoppix, and there is works12:01
swatgosssolus_ very very strange :p12:01
solus_but everything always works for me on knoppix12:01
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solus_i dont know if knpx3.04 has a different way of doing things, but this is odd12:01
swatgosswhy u don't use knoppix so ? :p12:01
whizz-i was running ksystemlog and saw something strange in there: every second the message "keyboard.c: can't emulate rawmode for keycode 240" is printed about 15-20 times12:01
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solus_haha, and reinstall everything everytime i reboot, i already ahve ahd my share of learning how to install this week12:02
swatgossnot specialy a live CD12:02
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swatgossu can install it on last version ... (i tested a knoppix based live CD with install option, Kaella Live CD)12:03
solus_at this point im determined to get kubuntu to work, i like it, my comp has never run so quickly and smoothly, and i already tried 3 linux distributions before this one...  it took me 18 hous to get suse installed, lol12:03
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Vgeonly 18?12:03
swatgosslol12:03
solus_hey, the magazine told me it hsould take less than 212:03
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swatgosssuse recompil whole system ?12:04
solus_i have no idea what it did, but i know that then after i used the install program that came with it to install addons from its own cd, it wouldnt boot anymore12:04
swatgossor somethind like that :p12:04
swatgosswow12:05
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Vgewell, to be honest, kubuntu takes some time too work nicely12:05
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solus_yeah, it didnt like me, so far the only problem ive had other than this new found hardware stuff was when i killed my own sudo not knowing how to use it, and i was able to fix that12:05
solus_that was already 10 steps ahead of suse and red hat12:05
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kyle_is wine available for kubuntu?12:06
swatgossyep12:06
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kyle_through adept?12:06
swatgoss(for wine)12:06
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kyle_i couldn't find it12:06
swatgossi didnt look at it12:06
solus_then try synaptic12:06
whizz-i was running ksystemlog and saw something strange in there: every second the message "(process: kernel) keyboard.c: can't emulate rawmode for keycode 240" is printed about 15-20 times12:07
kyle_solus where is synaptic?12:07
swatgosssynaptic don't use the same repos as adept ????12:07
solus_its easier to use, and you can customize more of your settings12:07
swatgosssynaptic is to be installed12:07
solus_you ahve to dl synaptic through adept12:07
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kyle_oh ok12:07
kyle_brb12:07
swatgossinstall installer :p12:07
kyle_haha12:07
solus_oull ahve to reboot your system to get it to show in your program menu, kyle12:08
swatgossno other solutions for updating the menus ?12:08
kyle_solus i searched for synaptec in adept and nothing12:08
solus_its synaptic12:08
kyle_oh12:08
swatgossjust look synapt12:08
swatgosscan you reduce the font size of system messages only ?12:09
kyle_installed12:09

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