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| Plug | Did/does Dapper have an (d-i) installation guide, like prior versions? | 02:20 |
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| Plug | or since Ubiquity became 'the way to install' was it dropped? | 02:20 |
| jsgotangco | it has the traditional install guide | 02:25 |
| jsgotangco | not sure about the desktop CD though | 02:25 |
| jsgotangco | since it boots directly to live | 02:26 |
| HighBit | http://tinyurl.com/m48lc | 02:28 |
| HighBit | who's excited about docs on a plane? | 02:28 |
| nixternal | whats up guys | 02:37 |
| nixternal | fo0d time | 02:37 |
| Plug | jsgotangco: I can't find it on the web | 02:43 |
| Laser_away | Plug: what? d-i? | 02:51 |
| Plug | yeah, for dapper | 02:55 |
| Plug | it stops at Breezy | 02:55 |
| bimberi | Plug: do you mean the guides off https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation ? | 02:56 |
| Plug | not as such | 02:58 |
| Plug | http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/apcs01.html exists | 02:58 |
| Plug | s/breezy/dapper/, 404. | 02:58 |
| Laser_away | hmm | 02:59 |
| Plug | It's important as dapper uses Etch's d-i, which has, among other things, removed base-config. | 02:59 |
| Laser_away | must have gone somewhere | 02:59 |
| Laser_away | honestly I've never seen any installation docs | 03:00 |
| Laser_away | but I must be looking in the wrong places | 03:00 |
| Laser_away | because people say they exist :-) | 03:00 |
| Plug | I think I've asked before and they've never been there :) I just went to the Debian d-i docs at the time | 03:01 |
| Plug | I'm doing a huge wikipage update on install CD cutomization | 03:01 |
| Laser_away | ah cool | 03:01 |
| jsgotangco | im pretty positive mdke had it placed on help.u.c during the dapper development cycle | 03:03 |
| jsgotangco | hmm this change in the front page of the wiki looks pretty self serving | 03:24 |
| bimberi | jsgotangco: the games stuff? i agree | 03:46 |
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| nixternal | i wish robotgeek would pop back up..he wanted to split the kdg, i want to know what he splits | 04:52 |
| nixternal | jjesse: SFW, what direction are we taking with it? are we going to split sections? deadline? anythign else you can think of put <here> ;) | 04:53 |
| Plug | so! | 04:57 |
| Plug | I've been busy | 04:57 |
| Plug | on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization | 04:57 |
| nixternal | looks good Plug | 04:58 |
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| poningru | http://www.osnews.com/img/15517/linuxworld2.jpg | 05:35 |
| poningru | err wtf | 05:36 |
| LaserJock | cool, Burgundiva and whiprush | 05:37 |
| bimberi_ | what's the award? | 05:39 |
| LaserJock | not sure | 05:41 |
| bimberi_ | "Golden Penguin Bowl" trophy - http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=15518 | 05:45 |
| nixternal | is it me or do the fedora guys look like jerry's kids? | 05:53 |
| nixternal | omg one of my old bosses is on page 2 | 05:54 |
| nixternal | lol | 05:54 |
| bimberi_ | nixternal: lemme guess, Mototola? | 05:56 |
| nixternal | haha ya | 05:56 |
| bimberi_ | :) | 05:56 |
| nixternal | guy martin, as a matter of fact, he is the head dude for the division now | 05:56 |
| nixternal | he is so stinkin' rich now it isn't even funny | 05:56 |
| poningru | yeah | 05:58 |
| poningru | apperantly they kicked novells ass | 05:58 |
| poningru | waah? | 05:58 |
| poningru | who? | 05:58 |
| jjesse | when? | 05:58 |
| bimberi_ | Burgundavia and whiprush - at bowling!? | 05:59 |
| nixternal | i know corey is there with one of the Ubuntu Chicago guys | 06:00 |
| poningru | he is on the planet iirc | 06:00 |
| poningru | so quick question, there was a to do list for the wiki a while ago | 06:05 |
| nixternal | jjesse: you working on ubuntu switching guide as well? | 06:06 |
| poningru | but now I cant find it | 06:06 |
| nixternal | poningru: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CategoryCleanup | 06:06 |
| nixternal | there you go..have at it ;) | 06:06 |
| poningru | :) | 06:06 |
| poningru | thanks | 06:06 |
| nixternal | that is pretty much the wiki todo list..at least it should be..but because of edgy and doc updates it has been put on a back burner | 06:07 |
| poningru | oh wtf | 06:07 |
| nixternal | lol | 06:07 |
| poningru | hmm ic | 06:07 |
| poningru | yeah /me was searching through the wiki | 06:07 |
| bimberi_ | nixternal: you're cruel | 06:07 |
| bimberi_ | ;) | 06:07 |
| poningru | you guys are nuts... :p | 06:07 |
| nixternal | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiToDo | 06:07 |
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| nixternal | lol | 06:08 |
| nixternal | the todo list is going to point you to the same thing ;) | 06:08 |
| poningru | hmm yeah | 06:09 |
| poningru | so is that geared toward lts or edgy? | 06:09 |
| poningru | anyone... | 06:11 |
| LaserJock | is what geared? | 06:12 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: any luck with the debiandoc stuff? | 06:15 |
| LaserJock | heh, not yet | 06:16 |
| LaserJock | I"m trying to get through the rest of the week | 06:16 |
| poningru | LaserJock: the to category cleanup thing | 06:17 |
| nixternal | hehe | 06:17 |
| LaserJock | I've got Ubucon on Friday | 06:17 |
| nixternal | nice..i tried to get some time to get there...but i got school crap to get ready for this weekend | 06:17 |
| nixternal | i emailed the professors and was like can we move this stuff until monday..i have a plane to catch for cali | 06:17 |
| nixternal | they are like..nope you have 1 week until class starts | 06:17 |
| LaserJock | well, I have 1 presentation almost done, and perhaps I will do another one (I don't know yet :( ) | 06:18 |
| nixternal | nice | 06:19 |
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| nixternal | im doin' a goofy lecture next week.. they call it a "lightning" something or other..im doing mine on KDE and PIM for PDA type stuff | 06:20 |
| nixternal | what answer? | 06:20 |
| nixternal | laod | 06:21 |
| nixternal | das | 06:21 |
| nixternal | lol | 06:21 |
| poningru | dude what is that category cleanup articles supposed to be geared towards? edgy or lts? | 06:21 |
| LaserJock | poningru: I don't think it really matters | 06:21 |
| poningru | if something comes up, leave it alone? | 06:21 |
| nixternal | i usually attack the easy ones truthfully | 06:22 |
| nixternal | get the little ones out of the way and pray someone comes along and takes care of the big ones | 06:23 |
| nixternal | the big ones usually have 4 or 5 other pages with the same stuff | 06:23 |
| nixternal | like NVidia and ATI | 06:23 |
| nixternal | they both have 23483423 pages each..and people keep creating versions that still don't work cuz the driver support is garbage | 06:23 |
| poningru | well the first on the list 32bit 64bit has pretty good explanation on the forums | 06:24 |
| poningru | so I was gonna go bug the author | 06:24 |
| nixternal | oh, and who could forget VMware..i have been working on that for who knows how long..and every time i start it back up..they change versions..and when they change versions you upgrade, or your license runs out | 06:24 |
| nixternal | so...i have been working on creating new..and then whiping the others out/merging them into 1 page | 06:25 |
| poningru | heh | 06:26 |
| poningru | http://digg.com/linux_unix/Gentoo_has_a_better_cow_than_Ubuntu | 06:28 |
| poningru | rofl | 06:29 |
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| jsgotangco | hey they actually dug a malone bug | 06:58 |
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| Madpilot | jsgotangco, which one? bug 1? | 07:19 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 1 in ubuntu-meta "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 07:19 |
| jsgotangco | no the super cow powers thing in apt | 07:20 |
| Madpilot | link, pls? it's not on digg's front page, and that's as far as I ever bother with digg ;) | 07:21 |
| bimberi_ | bug 56125 | 07:21 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 56125 in apt "doesnt look like a cow" [Unknown,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56125 | 07:21 |
| jsgotangco | its a critical bug | 07:22 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 07:22 |
| Madpilot | good lord | 07:22 |
| Madpilot | ;) | 07:23 |
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| Madpilot | hi robitaille | 08:14 |
| robitaille | Hi Madpilot | 08:14 |
| Plug | hi Madpilot | 08:15 |
| Madpilot | hi Plug | 08:15 |
| Plug | what needs cleaning up about h.u.c/coimmunity/ClamAV ? | 08:16 |
| Plug | I tidied it up some weeks ago but see its made it back in | 08:16 |
| Madpilot | Plug, ah, that was my fault, I see. If you think it's sane currently, go ahead and take it back out of Cleanup | 08:17 |
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| mdke | does anyone know if jjesse's patches are cumulative? | 10:22 |
| nixternal | i don't know..he just came up with a big chunk tonight, which i see you posted | 10:33 |
| nixternal | i don't think that included teh phil bull ones though | 10:33 |
| nixternal | phil bull has the preparing.xml patch | 10:34 |
| nixternal | couples posts ago | 10:34 |
| mdke | I'll let jonathan review it then | 10:35 |
| nixternal | i think he did, and that is what brought up the reason of him mailing the list..he couldn't commit | 10:36 |
| nixternal | i can review and validate local if you would like..or just wait for jonathan to do so | 10:36 |
| nixternal | actually..it is 3:30am..im off to bed | 10:36 |
| nixternal | g'nite | 10:37 |
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| mdke | does anyone know why we use this: | 12:59 |
| mdke | +<!ENTITY ubuntu '<phrase>Ubuntu</phrase>'> | 12:59 |
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| mdke | lloydinho: yeah, I'll do that now | 01:43 |
| lloydinho | mkde: cool | 01:43 |
| mdke | lloydinho: one thing - the interwiki links will not work | 01:43 |
| lloydinho | hm! | 01:43 |
| mdke | you can change those to urls afterwards, or before, if you prefer | 01:43 |
| mdke | before is better, if you want to put it on the website, if you want it to stay on the wiki, after is better | 01:44 |
| lloydinho | well... I'd much prefer to just have to do the changes once. | 01:44 |
| lloydinho | So I'll just do them now. | 01:44 |
| lloydinho | by "interwiki" you mean the links that refer to other pages in the Ubuntu wiki? Or pages in the Doc wiki? | 01:45 |
| mdke | both of those | 01:45 |
| lloydinho | okay, I'll get back to you shortly. | 01:45 |
| mdke | the latter doesn't exist though, right? | 01:45 |
| mdke | anything which isn't a url, basically | 01:46 |
| lloydinho | right, I'll run through the doc now, then. | 01:46 |
| mdke | (unlink LoCo, btw) | 01:46 |
| mdke | that's one hell of a document, great work | 01:47 |
| lloydinho | hm, I thought I found all of those. I'll check again. | 01:47 |
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| lloydinho | wow, running the whole doc again, there was a fair few things that needed fixing.. | 02:44 |
| lloydinho | mdke, it's all yours to export and commit, now. | 02:45 |
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| mdke | lloydinho: uploaded. I haven't tidied the xml because tidy seems to have an annoying bug which means that it loses a whitespace after a link | 03:04 |
| lloydinho | mdke: cool, thanks. Don't know what to do about the tidy bit, though. | 03:11 |
| mdke | we can use tidy then correct the spaces | 03:13 |
| lloydinho | well, you make it sound so easy ;-) | 03:14 |
| mdke | lloydinho: heh, am struggling with some validity issues with it though | 03:50 |
| lloydinho | yeah, I saw that. Mostly problems with the bold type, as far as I can see. | 03:51 |
| mdke | yes. I suspect a bug for mvirkkil | 03:51 |
| lloydinho | Actually, most of the bold types I'd rather turn into little info boxes - but I don't know if it is possible to do directly in the wiki. | 03:52 |
| mdke | mvirkkil: if you have time, a bug for you with emphasis tags not getting closed here: http://docbook.wikiwikiweb.de/MatthewEast/ContributeToUbuntu | 03:52 |
| lloydinho | (that would save some editing later on) | 03:52 |
| mdke | ooh, they don't get closed on the Moin page either | 03:53 |
| mdke | perhaps a moin bug then | 03:53 |
| lloydinho | strange, why would it do it in moin and not on the Ubuntu wiki? | 03:54 |
| mdke | devel version | 03:54 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: Ok. I'll try to see if I can fix it :) | 04:08 |
| mdke | mvirkkil: seems to be a moin bug, see #moin | 04:08 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: Yeah, I'm seeing it like that too :/ | 04:11 |
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| mdke | lloydinho: alright, I've hacked out all the errors, you should probably give it a quick proof read | 05:58 |
| lloydinho | mdke - cool. Will do. | 05:59 |
| mdke | lloydinho: that is one hell of a good job | 06:02 |
| mdke | congrats | 06:03 |
| Laser_away | hi lloydinho | 06:03 |
| lloydinho | mdke: thanks! | 06:03 |
| lloydinho | hi LaserJock | 06:03 |
| lloydinho | .. it's eaten the whitespaces after each link, but otherwise it looks fine. | 06:03 |
| LaserJock | lloydinho: check out http://www.chem.unr.edu/~mantha/ubuntu/ubucon.odp | 06:04 |
| LaserJock | it's getting close to done | 06:04 |
| mdke | oh damn, I corrected it once, then reverted and forgot to correct again | 06:04 |
| lloydinho | mdke, btw. People are still proof-reading the original on the wiki - I hope it won't be a problem to export it again later? | 06:05 |
| LaserJock | if there aren't that many changes we could probably use the moin diff and do it manually | 06:06 |
| mdke | well, I might have to go through it again and hack the errors out, we'll see | 06:06 |
| mdke | the bold bug has been fixed already though | 06:06 |
| mdke | maybe most of the errors were due to that | 06:08 |
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| lloydinho | mdke: I think so, I didn't notice any other problems when I first looked at it. | 06:09 |
| lloydinho | in any case, it is something we will have to figure out, if we are going towards more wiki-based doc writing. | 06:10 |
| mdke | i mean in terms of the docbook | 06:10 |
| mdke | yes, sure. | 06:10 |
| mdke | lloydinho: you can try the exporting procedure yourself by using the wiki at docbook.wikiwikiweb.de (http://docbook.wikiwikiweb.de/MatthewEast/ContributeToUbuntu) | 06:11 |
| lloydinho | mdke: yes, I meant the first docbook draft that you posted. | 06:11 |
| lloydinho | mdke: cool. I'll try it out. | 06:12 |
| mdke | you can test validity using the validate.sh script in our repo | 06:12 |
| mdke | wait until mvirkkil has updated the wiki though, because that will fix the bold bug | 06:12 |
| nixternal | when are we going to get that great feature? wiki2docbook that is | 06:12 |
| lloydinho | cool. Yes, I tried that before when I did patches for the desktop guides. | 06:13 |
| lloydinho | LaserJock, your presentation looks good. | 06:13 |
| lloydinho | A bit text heavy, maybe - but good. | 06:13 |
| LaserJock | ok | 06:14 |
| lloydinho | You should perhaps consider less information on each slide, or maybe just string the info out over several slides. | 06:14 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 06:14 |
| LaserJock | I'm used to science presentations :-) | 06:14 |
| lloydinho | and pictures! More pictures! | 06:14 |
| LaserJock | bah, pictures | 06:14 |
| LaserJock | ;-) | 06:14 |
| LaserJock | I'll try | 06:14 |
| mdke | nixternal: it's active on the wiki I posted above | 06:15 |
| mdke | already works quite well | 06:15 |
| LaserJock | jsgotangco suggested a picture or 2 from Paris | 06:15 |
| lloydinho | check the wiki pages for the various summits. There are lots of pictures there | 06:15 |
| nixternal | mdke: i use do the same thing actually..i use moinmoin, create the page, export it, and then delete it | 06:15 |
| nixternal | wow | 06:15 |
| nixternal | i do the same thing* | 06:15 |
| nixternal | fumblefingers already this morning | 06:15 |
| lloydinho | oh, and LaserJock - you should definitely have slide presenting yourself and how you got involved. | 06:16 |
| LaserJock | yeah, yeah | 06:16 |
| LaserJock | I was planning on doing more of talking about that | 06:17 |
| LaserJock | but maybe a slide would help out | 06:17 |
| lloydinho | Telling the sordid story of one mild-mannered chemist turned into a raging ubunt-holic. ;-) | 06:17 |
| lloydinho | *ubuntu-holic | 06:17 |
| nixternal | lloydinho: simply amazing work on the list you created...amazing job! | 06:18 |
| lloydinho | nixternal, thanks! | 06:18 |
| nixternal | i think everything is covered | 06:18 |
| nixternal | and then some | 06:18 |
| lloydinho | heh. Yeah, it's probably to big, too. Writing it, I really wanted there to be some procedure for creating new teams. | 06:20 |
| nixternal | heh, why create a team now, you listed every team known to man ;) | 06:20 |
| lloydinho | I think at least 2 or 3 new teams came up in the past 2 weeks. | 06:20 |
| lloydinho | "Forum howto to help.ubuntu.com" team, PDA testers team, what have you ... | 06:21 |
| lloydinho | and I haven't even gone through all of the launchpad teams.. *shudder* | 06:21 |
| LaserJock | mwuahaha | 06:22 |
| nixternal | oh ya, i see the pda team is on there now..hehe | 06:22 |
| LaserJock | I realized last night that I'm missing translation | 06:23 |
| lloydinho | yeah. It wasn't until a couple of days ago that I realized that I'd forgotten the Ubuntu Women's team. | 06:25 |
| lloydinho | Now, hopefully, the community won't grow any more :-P | 06:25 |
| nixternal | ooh, that would have been bad ;) | 06:26 |
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| trappist | by the way, I'm finally back to where I can work on docs. the guy who was living in the computer room has gone back to ireland :) | 11:13 |
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