[12:05] <MitchM> very nice
[12:05] <MitchM> I just "barrowed" a company UPS label for such purposes =)
[12:05] <MitchM> got about 4 per side
[12:05] <MitchM> stickered my "cubicle"
[12:09] <jenda> nixternal: are those from the german site?
[12:10] <nixternal> nope, i made those today
[12:10] <jenda> ah
[12:10] <nixternal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PoweredBy
[12:10] <jenda> And... you did know that I already did quite a bit of work on stickers... right?
[12:10] <jenda> :)
[12:11] <jenda> http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/Batch%201,%20Stickers/
[12:11] <jenda> That's all the works in progress too.
[12:11] <nixternal> i just replied to John's email...
[12:11] <MitchM> jenda : with the stickers I ordered what color do i get?
[12:12] <nixternal> nice work jenda
[12:12] <jenda> MitchM: brown
[12:12] <jenda> as on the wiki
[12:13] <nixternal> jenda, i likey likey those stickers
[12:13] <jenda> nixternal: should I add yours on there too?
[12:13] <nixternal> i don't care ;)
[12:13] <nixternal> add um, hack um, do whatever ;)
[12:13] <jenda> Actually, I think I should write a report of my activity to the ML...
[12:13] <jenda> hehe ;)
[12:13] <MitchM> =)
[12:14] <jenda> actually, it might be best to just commit them to bzr - we have some diy in there... damn I gotta make some order in that :(
[12:15] <jenda> OK - I won't touch them now, but ASAP, I'll try to figure out the best way for us to store such data.
[12:15] <nixternal> im talking to one of the Ubuntu Chicago guys at Ubucon right now..he is on his blackberry, chillin' with Corey Burger at the Gnome booth
[12:15] <jenda> aww
[12:15] <nixternal> i didn't know you could jabber with a blackberry
[12:20] <jenda> nixternal: Aha - I see. Yours include Kubuntu and the rest...
[12:20] <jenda> I wonder if I could sell those if I printed them.
[12:21] <jenda> (Oh, and BTW, all those stickers aren't my design. I worked only on the case badges - Ville "Commodore" Sokk designed the rest)
[12:24] <nixternal> i just whipped the ones on that page up in less then 5 minutes i think
[12:24] <nixternal> the hardest part was the rounded rectangle ;)
[12:24] <MitchM> you should include a batch with the url nixternal
[12:25] <MitchM> that way people that dont know what it is can just go to the website
[12:26] <nixternal> i can that
[12:26] <nixternal> that is actually a great idea
[12:28] <jenda> nixternal, I have a suggestion...
[12:28] <jenda> http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/Batch%201,%20Stickers/poweredbyubuntularge.svg
[12:29] <jenda> That might be a good base for a "download Ubuntu at www.ubuntu.com" sticker...
[12:29] <jenda> nixternal: and please see: http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/Batch%201,%20Stickers/download.svg
[12:39] <johnlittle> The Houston Chronicle contacted me about Ubuntu Video today..they might be doing a story on it.
[12:39] <jenda> wow )
[12:39] <johnlittle> 7th biggest us paper..I might know something this week
[12:41] <johnlittle> so how many different batches of stickers are you guys printing up?
[12:41] <jenda> That is very cool.
[12:41] <jenda> I'm printing three - wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Shipping
[12:45] <lophyte> johnlittle: I've got a couple of people from Toronto meeting up next week to discuss videos :)
[12:45] <lophyte> I'll have to keep you updated about what we're doing
[12:45] <johnlittle> awesome
[12:45] <johnlittle> start a wiki
[12:45] <johnlittle> how'd you find them?
[12:45] <lophyte> they're members of Ubuntu Canada
[12:46] <johnlittle> very cool
[12:46] <lophyte> I'm thinking I'll start a wiki subpage under the CanadianTeam page
[12:46] <lophyte> like CanadianTeam/Toronto
[12:46] <johnlittle> feel free to lay down a Rush track and drink beer on camera
[12:47] <lophyte> haha
[12:47] <johnlittle> I just talked my 14 year old niece into staring in some linux commercials..we might make some this weekend
[12:48] <johnlittle> shes a goofball so that could be interesting
[12:49] <lophyte> niice
[12:50] <lophyte> I'll forward you an idea someone just tossed out on the ubuntu-ca mailing list
[12:50] <johnlittle> k
[12:52] <lophyte> sent
[12:53] <johnlittle> very cool..you guys are going all out huh
[12:53] <johnlittle> just do anything but an Xgl demo please ;)
[12:54] <lophyte> haha
[12:54] <johnlittle> 900 linux video on the web and 850 of them are Xgl demos
[12:54] <lophyte> well, we'll see what happens next week
[12:54] <johnlittle> cool..whatever you come up with will be cool
[12:54] <johnlittle> it doesnt have to be uber professional
[12:57] <nixternal> you can't get paid since you hang out here int he marketing channel..otherwise i will sue you all and own your stinkin' cameras ;)
[12:57] <nixternal> typical new york snobbish attitude..you detect that at all?
[12:57] <nixternal> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2261
[12:57] <johnlittle> wha?
[12:57] <nixternal> woohoo...kubuntu is gonna have the hardware info db built in now
[12:58] <nixternal> we sure could use access to that
[12:58] <nixternal> http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/
[01:00] <johnlittle> maybe you wont krash as much
[01:00] <johnlittle> ;P
[01:01] <johnlittle> lots of laptops
[01:05] <johnlittle> amazing video: http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=6313613059572588466&hl=en
[01:13] <MitchM> what program is that?
[01:15] <johnlittle> Penmount touchscreen
[01:15] <johnlittle> the guy is running gentoo but its so cool i may post it anyway
[01:15] <johnlittle> what do you think?
[01:18] <johnlittle> oh man he drops the F bomb right in the middle
[01:19] <nixternal> ya typical gentoo ricer user
[01:19] <nixternal> i wouldn't post it, plus you can easily do that with every other os there is
[01:21] <johnlittle> make me an ubuntu version ;p
[01:22] <johnlittle> i could post it with the headline "Typical Gentoo User" and watch the war start
[01:23] <ompaul> be nice
[01:23] <ompaul> :)
[01:23] <johnlittle> But of course
[01:24] <johnlittle> nothin but love ;)
[03:43] <rjian> Hello people
[04:02] <elkbuntu> rjian, where abouts are you located? .au?
[04:16] <elkbuntu> rjian, ping?
[04:22] <rjian> hello elkbuntu
[04:24] <elkbuntu> rjian, where abouts are you located? .au?
[04:25] <rjian> nope Philippines
[04:26] <rjian> y elkbuntu?
[04:28] <elkbuntu> rjian, just wondering. if you were from .au i was going to invite you into the loco team channel
[04:36] <rjian> elkbuntu you mean u want me to join on ur team?
[05:37] <poningru> http://www.osnews.com/img/15517/linuxworld2.jpg
[05:37] <poningru> anyone recognize??
[05:38] <bimberi_> Corey Burger and Jorge Castro
[05:55] <elkbuntu> johnlittle, ping?
[05:55] <johnlittle> elkbuntu: pong
[05:56] <elkbuntu> how can i sort of shrink the resolution of a vid? i've made one with xvidcap of the akamaru kiba dock.. but it's sort of 1280x768 frames :|
[05:56] <elkbuntu> it's an mpeg
[05:57] <elkbuntu> i cant seem to see a way to record with smaller frames.. or im not understanding how...
[05:58] <johnlittle> crazy huh lol
[05:58] <johnlittle> let me look at something
[05:59] <ormiret> elkbuntu: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-rescale.html
[05:59] <elkbuntu> thanks ormiret
[06:00] <johnlittle> what he said
[06:42] <johnlittle> G'Night marketing gurus
[06:53] <poningru> :)
[06:53] <poningru> night dude
[07:13] <MitchM_> night gang
[07:36] <johnlittle> elkbuntu: ping
[07:37] <elkbuntu> johnlittle, pong? thought you went to bed
[07:37] <johnlittle> checking my mail one last time and saw your post..awesome. its up on the site. thanks
[07:37] <elkbuntu> nice
[07:38] <elkbuntu> ah.. one thing.. it's not my dock
[07:38] <johnlittle> You didn't record the demo?
[07:38] <elkbuntu> as in, i didnt make it
[07:38] <elkbuntu> i did
[07:38] <johnlittle> close enough..that's what I meant
[07:38] <elkbuntu> but.. say it's my dock might get people annoyed
[07:39] <johnlittle> hmm
[07:39] <Madpilot> nixternal, nice Powered By... graphics, btw
[07:39] <johnlittle> there
[07:40] <johnlittle> worked your name into the body
[07:40] <elkbuntu> ok ;)
[07:40] <johnlittle> ok thanks again..nite
[07:41] <elkbuntu> nite john
[08:00] <nixternal>  thx Madpilot
[08:01] <Madpilot> nixternal, I'm actually working on a more colourful version of your Ubuntu one right now :)
[08:01] <nixternal> sweet!
[08:01] <nixternal> im a newbie when it comes to graphics..so of course mine are very basic
[08:05] <Madpilot> nixternal, they work, only problem is they use MS fonts :(
[08:07] <nixternal> i used arial i know..but the other fonts in linux i really don't like
[08:07] <nixternal> samanta or whatever is kind of cool, but renders poorly at small sizes
[08:10] <Madpilot> nixternal, http://www.warbard.ca/temp/PbU-colour.png
[08:10] <nixternal> thats purty ;)
[08:11] <nixternal> inkscape is a weakness for me..i can't do the funky stuff yet
[08:11] <Madpilot> thanks
[08:11] <Madpilot> great Inkscape textbook, online: http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/
[08:12] <Madpilot> that dark red/maroon colour at the bottom of the PbU might be too dark, but it's such a nice colour...
[08:23] <poningru> yarr
[08:52] <Madpilot> nixternal, one minor tweak to the coloured version: http://www.warbard.ca/temp/poweredbyubuntu-coloured.png
[08:52] <Madpilot> SVG here: http://www.warbard.ca/temp/poweredbyubuntu-coloured.svg
[08:53] <Madpilot> I'll create a space for them on the PoweredBy page in a bit
[08:53] <nixternal> what was the tweak
[08:54] <Madpilot> grey drop shadow under the logo
[08:55] <jenda> Madpilot: i don't think the two colors will look good on paper.
[08:57] <Madpilot> jenda, the dark red, you mean? I'm afraid of that myself
[08:58] <rjian> hello people
[08:59] <mdke> Madpilot: if you are tweaking, how about removing the "linux"?
[09:00] <nixternal> keep the linux, thats what Ubuntu is
[09:00] <elkbuntu> or changing it to GNU/linux
[09:00] <nixternal> arg, that stinkin' GNU always shovin' its nose in ;)
[09:00] <Madpilot> RMS/Linux ;)
[09:00] <elkbuntu> lol
[09:00] <nixternal> arg, rms is over with
[09:01] <nixternal> Thank you for taking part in the Microsoft Future Assured Quiz.
[09:01] <nixternal> Your copy of Windows Vista Beta 2 CD will be dispatched shortly
[09:01] <mdke> just because people are still making the mistake that the OS is called "Ubuntu Linux" and we should avoid encouraging that
[09:01] <jenda> Madpilot: I mean the color break... I'd go with a single color
[09:01] <nixternal> haha
[09:01] <elkbuntu> jenda, how much do your stickers cost?
[09:02] <jenda> Madpilot, nixternal, the name is Ubuntu - not Ubnutu Linux...
[09:02] <jenda> elkbuntu: $3 for 10, $5 for 20, $10 for 50
[09:02] <nixternal> well "linux for human beings" wouldn't fit
[09:02] <jenda> err... make thta $8 for 40 - I don't have 50 left anymore :-D
[09:02] <mdke> yeah, nothing is better
[09:02] <Madpilot> nixternal, it would, but not readably :)
[09:02] <nixternal> and like i said...you are free to change it
[09:02] <elkbuntu> which currency?
[09:03] <nixternal> im not changing it
[09:03] <mdke> nixternal: what's the reason, you just don't have time, or you actively want to promote the name "Ubuntu linux"?
[09:03] <elkbuntu> and im willing to wait for the next batch
[09:03] <nixternal> i created revision 1, release it to the world..the great thing about open source is people can do what ever they want with..im promoting open source, go ahead and hack away ;)
[09:04] <mdke> I don't know how to change that, and Madpilot seems to be playing with it now, so I thought I'd mention it
[09:04] <nixternal> that, and im about to goto bed ;)
[09:04] <elkbuntu> nixternal, personlly, "Ubuntu Linux - Linux for Human Beings" is like saying "Automatic Teller Machine Machine" (for ATM Machine)
[09:04] <nixternal> i will change it eventually ;)
[09:04] <Madpilot> http://www.warbard.ca/temp/poweredbyubuntu-coloured2.png
[09:04] <nixternal> i was going to do it earlier, but got sidetracked
[09:05] <mdke> nice
[09:05] <nixternal> well see, if im sitting n the cafe, which i normall do, and people see "Powered by Ubuntu Linux" then they don't ask me what Ubuntu is, and i stay peaceful ;)
[09:05] <nixternal> looks good Madpilot ;)
[09:05] <Madpilot> thnx
[09:05] <elkbuntu> Madpilot, a. like the shadow, b. move "ubuntu" down a wee bit
[09:07] <Madpilot> use the source, elkbuntu ;) http://www.warbard.ca/temp/poweredbyubuntu-coloured2.svg
[09:07] <Madpilot> what's 'a wee bit'? into the middle of the box it's in?
[09:08] <elkbuntu> meh, i was just suggesting, it looks odd being non-centered without the 'linux' bit at the bottom to balance it
[09:08] <Madpilot> true
[09:12] <nixternal> our wiki is garbage
[09:13] <nixternal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PoweredBy
[09:13] <nixternal> mdke: updated!!!
[09:13] <nixternal> ;)
[09:13] <mdke> I knew if i nagged enough...
[09:13] <mdke> thanks
[09:13] <nixternal> lol
[09:14] <nixternal> i forgot just how simple it was to just remove the linux anyways
[09:14] <Madpilot> nixternal, isn't SVG cool? :)
[09:14] <nixternal> that is a great thing w/o a doubt
[09:14] <nixternal> i just wish i was better with it
[09:17] <elkbuntu> practice practice practice ;)
[09:19] <Madpilot> open Inkscape for half an hour every day and just mess around
[09:19] <Madpilot> http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu-distorted1.png
[09:20] <nixternal> looks like a donut that sat out in the sun for to long
[09:20] <Madpilot> heh
[09:20] <Madpilot> got sat on by a cop, perhaps ;)
[09:21] <Madpilot> http://www.warbard.ca/temp/C152-photo2.png - photo converted into SVG, effects added in Inkscape
[09:29] <jenda> Madpilot, nixternal, do you think I could ask you to upload your results to doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing?
[09:30] <jenda> I PM'd you both the password.
[09:30] <jenda> The password is to be given freely to all MT members who need it
[09:30] <nixternal> i was gonna say...i am not that cool :)   but i guess i am ;)
[09:31] <Madpilot> jenda, the wiki can store files just fine - why spread things out further?
[09:31] <jenda> And... there's a DIY diractory - Please make an appropriately named subdir for your work :)
[09:31] <jenda> Madpilot: it would be a pain to store all the stuff in the DIY on the wiki.
[09:31] <jenda> A lot of work, that is.
[09:31] <nixternal> put it under stickers jenda?
[09:32] <jenda> nixternal, yes, but please make it a Batch 2 directory
[09:32] <nixternal> k
[09:32] <nixternal> are we talking svn commit here?
[09:32] <jenda> since I will be picking for those for the second batch...
[09:33] <jenda> nixternal, nope. We have a bzr branch, but it seems to be of no use - it's not accessible through browser.
[09:33] <nixternal> ahhh ha
[09:33] <nixternal> gotcha
[09:34] <jenda> Madpilot: or is there a simpler way?
[09:35] <Madpilot> jenda, for file storage? Not really, AFAIK
[09:35] <jenda> Now the wiki should link to the material, I agree.
[09:35] <jenda> So - please don't hesitate to link to that directory whereever appropriate.
[09:36] <nixternal> im definitely lost
[09:36] <jenda> hm?
[09:36] <nixternal> use the bzr branch on launchpad to upload to?
[09:36] <jenda> no! ;)
[09:37] <nixternal> how else am i to upload to doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing?
[09:38] <jenda> ssh
[09:38] <jenda> phone
[09:38] <nixternal> gotcha
[09:39] <jenda> In your ubuntu, you can just click connect to server, ...
[09:39] <jenda> ahh...
[09:39] <jenda> I forgot: username - marketing :-)
[09:41] <jenda> nixternal, the directory that will show on that URL is /home/marketing/public_html
[09:42] <nixternal> i am in the process of upin' now ;)
[09:42] <jenda> OK ;)
[09:44] <jenda> Madpilot: In fact, I was tending towards putting the showcase material on the wiki - whatever you want people to see, and have the bulk of the source files and discarded stuff on doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing (for example, .svg files for .pngs shown on the wiki).
[09:44] <jenda> It would seem overkill to put all of those things on the wiki.
[09:45] <nixternal> http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/Batch_2_Stickers/
[09:46] <jenda> perfect
[09:49] <Madpilot> OK, it's been ages since I've set up an SSH connection on Nautilus... why can't I connect?
[09:50] <Madpilot> Connection Type: SSH; Server: doc.ubuntu.com; User Name: marketing
[09:51] <nixternal> ssh marketing@doc.ubuntu.com
[09:51] <nixternal> from the cmd line
[09:51] <mindspin> hehe
[09:51] <nixternal> im so used to CLI, sorry ;)
[09:51] <nixternal> my first 6 years in Linux were CLI, as the DE's were garbage then
[09:52] <mindspin> in konqueror its fish//remote-adress
[09:52] <nixternal> yup
[09:52] <nixternal> good ol' fish
[09:52] <nixternal> i rarely use konqi, except to look at images
[09:52] <mindspin> but nautilus, no idea
[09:52] <nixternal> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:52] <nixternal> thats hwo
[09:52] <nixternal> ;)
[09:53] <mindspin> I recently started to use konqui, its not bad at all
[09:53] <mindspin> for scping
[09:53] <nixternal> i have been messing with the kio structure and what not a little bit helping out the kde devs with some testing..thats about it
[09:53] <nixternal> i tried it for web browsing, and i cussed more than ever i think
[09:54] <Madpilot> You all inflict either the command line or KDE on yourselves? Am I the only Gnome user here?
[09:54] <mindspin> hehe
[09:54] <mindspin> ask in #ubuntu ;-)
[09:55] <mindspin> I would use console
[09:55] <nixternal> lol
[09:56] <Madpilot> I could, but I'd like to get it set up in Nautilus - so convenient
[09:56] <mindspin> convinient, thats why I use konqui sometimes for that
[09:57] <nixternal> 3am and i start a freakin' vmware install
[09:57] <nixternal> like i need another linux distro running in vmware
[09:57] <jenda> Madpilot: Gnome here
[09:57] <jenda> but I can't see what's wrong there..
[09:57] <Madpilot> jenda, good to know there's at least one other sane person present :)
[09:57] <jenda> hehe :)
[09:58] <mindspin> I spent three hours last nite for a remote upgrade from hoary to breezy to dapper and it failed at last because the disk was full :-(
[09:58] <digitalmouse> greetings programs!
[09:58] <elkbuntu> Madpilot, no, i use gnome :P
[09:58] <Madpilot> jenda, I'm probably doing something stupid WRT SSH setup... don't do it often enough
[09:58] <elkbuntu> Madpilot, pebkac :)
[09:58] <mindspin> Madpilot: ssh is installed?
[09:58] <jenda> yep
[09:59] <jenda> Madpilot: hmm... when you click Connect to Server, don't forget to select SSH, since FTP is default...
[09:59] <Madpilot> mindspin, it's an outgoing SSH connection, I know they work, I just can't remember how to get Naut to cooperate :)
[09:59] <Madpilot> jenda, done that
[09:59] <jenda> hm
[09:59] <elkbuntu> jenda, ...schwaaaa? ssh.. click.. wtf?
[09:59] <jenda> works OK here
[09:59] <jenda> elkbuntu: sorry :)
[09:59] <elkbuntu> scp ftw
[10:00] <jenda> Madpilot: try setting /home/marketing/ as the directory... maybe we don't have permissions elsewhere..
[10:00] <jenda> elkbuntu: could you send me an email with your order? I'll put you in the queue if folks don't ask for what they've ordered...
[10:01] <jenda> Damn, I think I'll order the next batch straight away.
[10:01] <elkbuntu> jenda, what currency do you need the $$ in?
[10:01] <jenda> No!
[10:01] <jenda> Gotta wait for feedback
[10:01] <jenda> That was USD, but I happily accept euro too
[10:01] <jenda> different price in that.
[10:01] <jenda> How many would you like, elkbuntu?
[10:02] <Madpilot> jenda, /home/marketing works - the server wasn't liking the short forms... :|
[10:02] <elkbuntu> jenda, just 10
[10:03] <elkbuntu> jenda, im presuming you accept paypal too :P
[10:04] <jenda> yes
[10:04] <jenda> Madpilot: great ;)
[10:04] <elkbuntu> then i'll definately send to you in euro, so paypal doesnt steal too much of it, they like to hike the exchange rates in their favour
[10:05] <elkbuntu> unless you're in the states.. hard to tell with cloaked hostmasks :P
[10:09] <jenda> No, i'm in the Czech Republic...
[10:09] <jenda> and I thought USD transfers were cheaper... or at least last time I checked...
[10:09] <jenda> $0.30 vs 0.35...
[10:09] <elkbuntu> jenda, not when you then transfer it from usd to euro
[10:10] <jenda> ah
[10:10] <jenda> wow ;)
[10:10] <jenda> tricks
[10:10] <elkbuntu> they get twice the hidden exchange fee then ;)
[10:10] <jenda> So, how many would you like?
[10:10] <jenda> ah
[10:10] <jenda> 10
[10:10] <jenda> missed it
[10:10] <elkbuntu> i'm writing the email now, that way you cant forget
[10:10] <jenda> OK ;)
[10:11] <jenda> thx
[10:11] <jenda> it's easier to track that way.
[10:11] <jenda> (jenda, please don't use enter as punctuation...)
[10:11] <elkbuntu> lol
[10:16] <elkbuntu> strange how long it takes to type 2 lines of text sometimes...
[10:37] <nixternal> g'nite everyone!!!
[10:41] <digitalmouse> nite!
[10:41] <mindspin> sleep tight
[10:41] <digitalmouse> nite??
[10:42] <mindspin> chicago....
[10:42] <digitalmouse> 10:41 am here :-p
[10:42] <mindspin> @now chicago
[10:42] <jenda> elkbuntu: gotcha ;)
[10:42] <mindspin>  time chicago
[10:42] <digitalmouse> still morning in chicago.. that should be g'morning!
[10:42] <mindspin> early morning
[10:42] <digitalmouse> very
[10:42] <jenda> mindspin: no Ubugtu here ;)
[10:42] <mindspin> i see
[10:43] <mindspin> but someone did a time thing yesterday here
[10:46] <poningru> yarr
[11:45] <jenda> matthewrevell: Hello
[11:45] <matthewrevell> jenda: hi
[11:47] <jenda> I was thinking about the fridge+stickers a bit. I think it could make it to be a story as soon as I get a bit of feedback on from the end-users. THen i'll print a second batch, and then a bit of refridgeration would be great. I will even offer stickers for free who send stamped envelopes ;)
[11:47] <jenda> Except I'm not sure how I'll manage that part internationally. They'll probably have to send a dollar bill instead of a stamped envelope to pay for Czech stamps here...
[11:49] <matthewrevell> Yep, that's great.
[11:49] <matthewrevell> I'm sure we can do a follow-up
[11:49] <matthewrevell> I think I prefer your stickers, particularly as you offer a Czech version :)
[11:52] <jenda> hehe
[11:52] <jenda> I was planning a french one, but I was afraid I wouldn't find enough of a 'market'.
[11:52] <matthewrevell> Ah, ubuntu-fr is pretty active.
[11:52] <matthewrevell> My mate Bruno is a big chap for that sort of thing
[11:54] <jenda> Bruno?
[11:56] <matthewrevell> sorry, kNo' is his nick
[11:56] <matthewrevell> I'm just talking to him about it in #lugradio
[11:56] <matthewrevell> You're welcome to join us :)
[11:58] <jenda> ;)
[11:58] <jenda> I'm inquiring in #ubuntu-fr
[12:00] <matthewrevell> cool
[12:06] <elkbuntu> hehe
[12:12] <matthewrevell> Cool :)
[12:46] <jenda> Oi... if one of the people who ordered stickers want a 10 sticker bonus... i need help with creating a one or two page website for it, and it would really be a lot of work to learn for me.
[12:48] <elkbuntu> jenda, i can do something, and no need to worry about any bonus
[12:48] <jenda> hehe :)
[12:49] <jenda> I don't mind sending 10 more. The printer gave me a bonus anyway :)
[12:49] <elkbuntu> hehe
[12:49] <elkbuntu> i wouldnt know what to do with the extra 10
[12:49] <elkbuntu> i only have 3 machines
[12:51] <jenda> Spread the love.
[12:51] <jenda> I made it 8, because that way I don't have to cut as much. 
[12:52] <jenda> Ooh, australia. That'll probably make good use of the extra 0.50 ;)
[12:53] <elkbuntu> ;)
[12:53] <MenZa> jenda: would you mind if I sent a couple to Sweden? A guy just requested some from me.
[12:54] <digitalmouse> sounds like you are running a regular printing racket, jenda :-)
[12:54] <elkbuntu> MenZa, you can make the site for him for the bonus stickers ;)
[12:54] <jenda> MenZa: well what can I do ;)
[12:54] <jenda> elkbuntu: great idea! ;)
[12:54] <MenZa> jenda: it was more the fact that I already sold them to you :)
[12:54] <jenda> elkbuntu: MenZa has his own stickers which i bought off him... I don't remember why, though :)
[12:55] <elkbuntu> so you can have a collection?
[12:55] <jenda> MenZa: can you do basic web design?
[12:55] <MenZa> jenda: I can. Why?
[12:55] <jenda> elkbuntu: of 300 extra sticks? sure... :-D
[12:55] <elkbuntu> jenda, well.. case stickers dont necissarily have to show any of the case :D
[12:56] <jenda> MenZa: we'll make a deal - you'll make me a simple one page ubuntu-themed site (no real content needed), and you can send all you want...
[12:56] <MenZa> jenda: deal. Do you have any mockups ready?
[12:56] <jenda> elkbuntu: great point. But the keyboard of my laptop should show.
[12:56] <jenda> MenZa: nope
[12:56] <MenZa> jenda: I'll see what I can do.
[12:56] <MenZa> I'll look at it in an hour or two.
[12:57] <elkbuntu> i was going to do it but im arguing with some of my hosts atm, so im not in the best position
[12:57] <jenda> Basically, an Ubuntu header, and a place to put a few pictures, some descriptions and a short article describing the project should be enough.
[12:57] <jenda> MenZa: no hurry
[12:57] <MenZa> Good then :)
[12:58] <jenda> I'll add space later on, encouraging others to do similar projects, and offering to host those projects there as well. So that a visitor can choose from all the people who send out DIY material around the world.
[12:58] <MenZa> Just a single page?
[12:58] <elkbuntu> im having a real crap week internet wise. two webhosts being silly and brother sucked all the bandwidth so we're shaped to dialup speed :(
[12:58] <MenZa> Do you want room for more pages?
[12:59] <MenZa> e.g. a navigation bar?
[12:59] <jenda> If it's possible
[12:59] <jenda> yes, it would be great.
[12:59] <MenZa> Will do.
[12:59] <jenda> OK, I'm going to the post office.
[12:59] <jenda> I'm counting on giving a few to you rather in person, MenZa.
[12:59] <MenZa> jenda: Speaking of which, we might get a bit of time for ourselves :)
[12:59] <matthewrevell> elkbuntu: seen the ML lately?
[01:00] <jenda> MenZa: that's great :)
[01:00] <elkbuntu> well, jenda later on after MenZa's done some awesome css stuff, he's better at it than me, i can dynamicise it for later projects
[01:00] <jenda> Ourselves, and beer.
[01:00] <elkbuntu> matthewrevell, yes. ompaul had a snigger about it too
[01:00] <jenda> elkbuntu: perfect, thanks
[01:00] <MenZa> elkbuntu: why, thank you :)
[01:00] <jenda> matthewrevell, elkbuntu... would you be referring to JB?
[01:01] <elkbuntu> jenda, indeed
[01:01] <ompaul> elkbuntu, it was more like - who'd a thunk it eh?
[01:01] <jenda> hehe
[01:01] <elkbuntu> jenda, he has no sense of humour, as ompaul said
[01:01] <ompaul> the guy did not / does not get OSS
[01:01] <MenZa> jenda: can't promise that, I'm pretty sure I'll be shipped off home if I drink ;)
[01:01] <jenda> He didn't lack enthusiasm... and free time, though.
[01:02] <jenda> hehe, OK, MenZa. I'll have a beer, you can have a coke. :-D
[01:02] <ompaul> it is not centralized - it is distributed
[01:02] <MenZa> Great :)
[01:02] <MenZa> (I don't mind beer myself, but my teachers... groan.)
[01:03] <ompaul> .ie
[01:03] <ompaul> I thought I was in -offtopic sorry
[01:03] <MenZa> lol
[01:03] <elkbuntu> ompaul, market it as 'if you use ubuntu we'll ship you here' ;)
[01:04] <ompaul> for beer?
[01:04] <MenZa> Yummy, beer.
[01:04] <elkbuntu> im sure we'd get plenty of underage switchers
[01:04] <ompaul> elkbuntu, 18 is legal here
[01:04] <elkbuntu> yeah, but under 21 in most states of america is underage drinking
[01:04] <MenZa> 16 for Denmark.
[01:05] <elkbuntu> MenZa, lucky bugger
[01:05] <MenZa> :D
[01:07] <jenda> Wow, very lucky
[01:07] <MenZa> ^^
[01:38] <MenZa> jenda: I have a mockup ready for you in a second.
[01:38] <jenda> wow, great
[01:39] <jenda> I was just about to REALLY leave for the post office :)
[01:39] <jenda> will you give me 40 minutes?
[01:39] <jenda> 
[01:39] <MenZa> jenda: then go, I'll have it done when you're back ;)
[01:39] <jenda> OK, great.
[01:39] <elkbuntu> hmm?
[01:39] <MenZa> Any chance you can make a couple of feeds with the data from the counter? e.g. total number of users, total number of ubuntu users, total machines, clusters etc. etc.
[01:40] <MenZa> (brb)
[01:40] <elkbuntu> yeah, i've been meaning too, even though i suck with xml
[01:41] <MenZa> Not as much as I do ;)
[01:42] <elkbuntu> afk also, i'll find a tute to hug like a teddy bear when i get back
[01:42] <MenZa> O_o
[01:42] <MenZa> My idea is to include a parser here, which says how many users are using Ubuntu.
[01:42] <MenZa> ^_^
[02:21] <elkbuntu> the fridge wants something similar also i believe
[02:21] <FirstStrike> zomg
[02:22] <MenZa> why hullo thar.
[02:23] <jenda> yay, shipped
[02:24] <MenZa> yay
[02:24] <MenZa> jenda: just a second.
[02:27] <MenZa> jenda: ping
[02:28] <MenZa> http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/487/ubuntumarkos7.png
[02:28] <MenZa> :D
[02:31] <FirstStrike> i'm the anime geek out of the three
[02:31] <MenZa> lol
[02:31] <MenZa> Anime++
[02:31] <MenZa> ;d
[02:31] <MenZa> Anyway, jenda. Ping!.
[02:32] <jenda> pong
[02:32] <jenda> looks great :)
[02:35] <MenZa> No worries.
[02:35] <MenZa> I'm gonna start coding this then :)
[02:35] <jenda> Thanks
[02:43] <MenZa> I need the RSS feeds from Elkbuntu though.
[02:43] <jenda> Half the stickers are gone, and 76% has been paid for. Looks optimistic.
[02:43] <MenZa> :O
[02:43] <MenZa> Wow.
[02:43] <jenda> The shipping is cheaper than i expected, so where the stickers, and some people leave tips :-D
[02:43] <jenda> It's great - the profit will be used to fuel some marketing efforts...
[02:44] <MenZa> :D
[02:44] <jenda> It will also help fund the next batch, starting by what I'm buying from you. How many will there be left?
[02:44] <MenZa> I'm not sure, 280-300 or so.
[02:45] <jenda> Good nuff
[02:45] <jenda> basically, it boils down to $1/10pcs, which is a good price. The same I had.
[02:45] <MenZa> gd, gd :)
[02:45] <jenda> I'll buy it from the profit, if there turns up to be one (I'm still $30 in the red)
[02:46] <MenZa> Ah.
[02:52] <elkbuntu> the rss feeds might be a bit off, MenZa sort of run out of space on the counter hosting 'cos of the stats... negotiating with the host now
[02:52] <matthewrevell> wooh, my Ubuntu membership got approved
[02:52] <elkbuntu> yay
[02:52] <MenZa> elkbuntu: good, good :)
[02:52] <jenda> matthewrevell: CONGRATULATIONS!
[02:52] <MenZa> congrats matthewrevell :)
[02:52] <jenda> Welcome to the team!
[02:52] <matthewrevell> cheers :)
[02:52] <jenda> You deserve it.
[02:52] <matthewrevell> thanks
[02:53] <MenZa> elkbuntu: point out it's a non-profit project helping thousands of people.
[02:53] <elkbuntu> MenZa, it's el-cheapo hosting
[02:53] <matthewrevell> jenda: when did you ubuntu.com address get sorted?
[02:53] <MenZa> elkbuntu: no way as cheap as mine.
[02:54] <elkbuntu> MenZa, no, it's not free :P
[02:54] <MenZa> lol elkbuntu
[02:54] <MenZa> Point taken.
[02:54] <jenda> matthewrevell: it took a while... I'm not sure how long.
[02:54] <jenda> anywhere from 3 days to 14 :-D
[02:54] <matthewrevell> jenda: Ah, okay. No rush.
[02:55] <jenda> elkbuntu: MitchM was offering hostage... I dunno if it's still up for grabs, though.
[02:55] <jenda> Hello hybrid
[02:55] <elkbuntu> jenda, the cost is no bother, it's just.. i didnt realise the account was so full
[02:56] <bimberi> matthewrevell: i thought it happened automatically from the launchpad id
[02:56] <jenda> I didn't mean cost - but maybe the quality is better, dunno.
[02:56] <jenda> bimberi: it does, but takes a while.
[02:56] <matthewrevell> MitchM: Yeah? oh.
[02:57] <bimberi> matthewrevell: congrats btw - i didn't get the chance to say that herding the marketing team cats was worth double points ;)
[02:57] <matthewrevell> bimberi: :-D
[02:57] <MenZa> jenda: XHTML done.
[02:57] <MenZa> Now for the tricky part.
[02:57] <MenZa> CSS:
[02:58] <jenda> :-D
[02:58] <MenZa> lol
[02:58] <MenZa> HTML part is done. CSS isn't.
[02:58] <MenZa> Ask elkbuntu. She knows what I'm talking about.
[02:58] <MenZa> ;)
[02:58] <jenda> That i did understand :-D
[02:58] <jenda> In fact, I even know what they stand for.
[02:59] <elkbuntu> it can be, but that looks like it'll be ok, just a bit fiddly between browsers
[02:59] <MenZa> not necessarily.
[02:59] <MenZa> I just hate CSS because it's a hassle.
[02:59] <MenZa> And you have so much code to do.
[03:03] <matthewrevell> MenZa: CSS is superb!
[03:03] <MenZa> It does great stuff.
[03:03] <MenZa> But it's so faulty.
[03:03] <MenZa> Bug number one of CSS: The W3 are unable to properly spell words like 'colour'.
[03:03] <MenZa> ;)
[03:03] <MenZa> W3C
[03:04] <matthewrevell> MenZa: It's implementation varies too much between browsers, but that's largely because the W3C standards are a bit vague, AFAIK.
[03:04] <MenZa> Yes, they are.
[03:05] <elkbuntu> matthewrevell, not really.. the standards are set, ie makes up their own, firefox deviates a slight bit, opera is the most strict
[03:08] <MenZa> KHTML too, elkbuntu.
[03:08] <MenZa> I think.
[03:08] <MenZa> Konqueror passes the Acid2 test, right?
[03:08] <elkbuntu> no idea
[03:08] <MenZa> I believe it does.
[03:08] <elkbuntu> but i believe so
[03:08] <MenZa> And Safari, too--I believe.
[03:08] <MenZa> (no TinyMCE support though ;D)
[03:08] <jenda> MenZa: do you need the $25 now?
[03:09] <MenZa> jenda: nah, I can wait.
[03:09] <jenda> (or want)
[03:09] <MenZa> heh, no worries.
[03:09] <MenZa> Just pay me when you feel you can afford it ;)
[03:09] <MenZa> brb
[03:09] <jenda> OK, that'd be now :)
[03:09] <MenZa> Detached the tab by accident
[03:09] <MenZa> brb
[03:09] <jenda> OK, MenZa, what's your paypal account?
[03:10] <MenZa> menza@menza.org
[03:10] <MenZa> Don't send them if you don't feel you can afford it :)
[03:13] <jenda> Of course I can - I have nothing to do with the money on that paypal account :-D
[03:14] <jenda> I can't withdraw them, and there's nothing I plan to buy straight away.
[03:16] <jenda> sent
[03:36] <jenda> matthewrevell: ping
[03:41] <matthewrevell> jenda: hello
[03:41] <jenda> oi ;)
[03:42] <jenda> If you send me your address, I can send you the stickers, you know ;)
[03:42] <matthewrevell> jenda: Oh, sorry, I keep forgetting.
[03:42] <matthewrevell> hang on
[03:44] <elkbuntu> jenda, how much did the postage to .au cost?
[03:45] <jenda> 11 CZK, prioritaire :)
[03:45] <jenda> which is $0.5
[03:45] <jenda> (USD)
[03:45] <jenda> (almost exactly)
[03:45] <elkbuntu> ah good, the extra .5 was worth it then :)
[03:57] <digitalmouse> menza:  if you have not already seen this: http://www.webdevout.net/browser_info_prefs.php  it's a decent cross-reference to see how the different browsers stack up to the standards at the moment (might not be 'real-time', but it's recent)
[03:57] <MenZa> oh nice
[03:57] <MenZa> thanks.
[03:57] <MenZa> jenda: almost done with the first code here
[03:58] <jenda> great ;)
[03:59] <jenda> elkbuntu: Well, in fact, I already counted that in, and I counted in a fair percentage of risk-fee (to cover the expenses of lost packages, unsold stickers, unpaid-for ones etc.).
[04:00] <jenda> So the 50 is an appreciated tip :)
[04:00] <elkbuntu> fair enough :)
[04:01] <elkbuntu> if you havent already done so, you should set a 'pay by' period at which point they will go back on the market
[04:01] <elkbuntu> ie, 14 days, 21 days etc
[04:04] <MagicFab> hello
[04:05] <MagicFab> I am looking to compare Fedora and ubuntu in servers environment. Does anyone know of resources with white paper /case study structure ?
[04:05] <jenda> I guess i'have to do that, yeah.
[04:05] <jenda> hmm
[04:05] <jenda> Afraid not, MagicFab..
[04:05] <matthewrevell> MagicFab: Hmmm, it'd be great if we did.
[04:06] <matthewrevell> MagicFab: I'll put it on the list of things to do.
[04:06] <MagicFab> I have a customer for 4 servers pushing for Fedora, unless I can prove my point :)
[04:07] <elkbuntu> hmm.. the security response time article would be a good start
[04:08] <matthewrevell> MagicFab: Canonical are gathering case studies at the moment, but I don't know if anything they have is comparative.
[04:08] <matthewrevell> jenda: I think we need to greatly simplify the "Marketing team purpose" section of the wiki page
[04:09] <MagicFab> elkbuntu, nice suggestion, I have it somewhere
[04:09] <elkbuntu> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/481
[04:09] <jenda> matthewrevell: agreed... for ages :)
[04:09] <matthewrevell> MagicFab: I think Fedora and Ubuntu come equal on that case study.
[04:09] <matthewrevell> elkbuntu: Definitely a good suggestion tho
[04:10] <matthewrevell> jenda: I'd like to see something very simple there. We have too little structure to be too specific, at the moment.
[04:10] <matthewrevell> jenda: I'll post suggested text to the ML
[04:11] <elkbuntu> did jb unsubscribe?
[04:11] <matthewrevell> elkbuntu: yep
[04:11] <elkbuntu> ok then.. because he'd probably take this as proving him right and he'd jump right back in
[04:12] <matthewrevell> elkbuntu: What, changing some of the text on the team wiki page?
[04:13] <elkbuntu> i dunno.. i sorta think he was wanting to do that or something, or that's the jist i got from his rambling
[04:14] <matthewrevell> I think there was a lot going on that he felt uncomfortable with
[04:14] <elkbuntu> Meanwhile.. i really dont get why people do this: "The newest Ubuntu Cluster is: ubuntu (1  Ubuntu Dapper)"
[04:15] <jenda> Probably because they do not know what a cluster is.
[04:16] <jenda> It shouldn't be too difficult to prevent that, no?
[04:17] <elkbuntu> jenda, in the user cp it says cluster/network
[04:18] <jenda> hm
[04:18] <elkbuntu> it doesnt matter really
[04:18] <elkbuntu> still gets counted up right... it's just there to let people with 101 machines add them as easily as if they had 1
[04:19] <jenda> right
[04:19] <jenda> cool
[04:19] <elkbuntu> hmm maybe they might consider them a cluster because of distributed clustering
[04:20] <jenda> Hello sara
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, 1 box is 1 box. :)
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> if they are a node on seti, they dont /own/ a cluster
[04:22] <elkbuntu> i know.. the cluster thing is a convenience thing more than a statistical thing
[04:23] <jenda> Kamping_Kaiser: BTW, i got Canonical's approval on the easyubuntu logo
[04:23] <jenda> I _think_ I sent it to the EU ML
[04:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> jenda, rock on :). thanks mate
[04:23] <jenda> np
[04:24] <jenda> I think it doesn't work, anyway :)
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok, RFC: should i (try and) do tafe work , or (try and) write a letter of resignation?
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[05:06] <MenZa> jenda: I got distracted, sorry. I'm almost done with it now.
[05:33] <MenZa> jenda: ping
[05:42] <MenZa> jenda: ping
[05:44] <MenZa> http://um.menza.org
[05:44] <MenZa> Any thoughts?
[05:44] <elkbuntu> looking now
[05:45] <MenZa> And elkbuntu, how'd that discussion with your host end up?
[05:45] <MenZa> You're not exclusive enough.
[05:45] <MenZa> :)
[05:45] <elkbuntu> main one sort of sorted, the other still being annoying
[05:45] <MenZa> ;\
[05:46] <MenZa> How's the design?
[05:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[05:46] <MenZa> Right :)
[05:47] <elkbuntu> the gold around the edges doesnt match with the rest in ie6 in wine
[05:47] <ompaul> MenZa, CHANGE that bit now: Current number of machines running Ubuntu:   To Current number of counted boxes we think there are about 6 million but hey we won't know til they are counted :)
[05:47] <MenZa> heh
[05:48] <elkbuntu> ompaul, lol
[05:48] <MenZa> likes the*
[05:49] <elkbuntu> take the link colours up a touch in darkness, the colour on the white is a bit fuzzy with my eyes
[05:49] <elkbuntu> even worse in the counter box :|
[05:54] <MenZa> elkbuntu: refresh.
[05:55] <elkbuntu> yeah that's better
[05:55] <MenZa> :)
[05:56] <elkbuntu> i wouldnt bother about the ie thing.. unless it does it in native as well
[05:56] <MenZa> IE?
[05:56] <MenZa> Er
[05:56] <MenZa> "IE thing"
[05:56] <MenZa> :p
 the gold around the edges doesnt match with the rest in ie6 in wine
[06:00] <MenZa> oh?
[06:01] <MenZa> that's because IE6 = horrible at rendering PNGs.
[06:01] <MenZa> :p
[06:01] <MenZa> But I refuse to use any other file format (oh, such a rebel I am
[06:01] <MenZa> )
[06:01] <elkbuntu> hehe
[06:04] <MenZa> IE6 is teh lose :p
[06:04] <elkbuntu> duh.. but we dont want to look tacky
[06:04] <MenZa> True, true.
[06:05] <MenZa> For you, elkbuntu, I'll convert them to jpegs.
[06:05] <MenZa> ;D
[06:05] <elkbuntu> ;)
[06:05] <MenZa> I can't believe it; even IE7 displays PNGs wrong.
[06:05] <MenZa> AND doesn't support :before
[06:05] <MenZa> Bastards.
[06:05] <elkbuntu> ... effing ms
[06:06] <MenZa> Yeah.
[06:10] <MenZa> hi jenda
[06:10] <MenZa> I'm almost done with it
[06:11] <elkbuntu> guys.. convo i had earlier with a mcse dutch friend who lives in switzerland: http://meldra.no-ip.info:8080/ok-no-suse.txt
[06:14] <MenZa> Uploading, elkbuntu.
[06:16] <MenZa> You didn't bother telling him about OpenSuSE?
[06:16] <MenZa> :D
[06:16] <MenZa> And OS X is leet
[06:16] <MenZa> It > any Linux distro imo ;)
[06:16] <MenZa> http://um.menza.org
[06:16] <MenZa> (still uploading)
[06:17] <elkbuntu> MenZa, hell no
[06:17] <MenZa> and jenda, you too.
[06:17] <MenZa> I'd use it any day.
[06:17] <elkbuntu> i want him to try ubuntu, fool
[06:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> os x=prorietary, and opensuse is still novel, just with freedom ;)
[06:20] <elkbuntu> MenZa, much better
[06:20] <MenZa> :D
[06:42] <MitchM> greetings all
[06:58] <ompaul> MenZa, please change: Current number of machines running Ubuntu: to Current number of registered machines counted at the community counter: or something like that  (check with elkbuntu for phrasing) ;-)
[06:59] <elkbuntu> or check the counter ;)
[06:59] <ompaul> Register with the counter
[06:59] <ompaul> elkbuntu, then it is incumbent on you to provide a path back to where it came from if it came from "a recognised" ubuntu site :)
[07:00] <elkbuntu> you mean like the (register) he has on there? or whatever it is
[07:01] <elkbuntu> hehe
[07:01] <elkbuntu> what email addy?
[07:01] <MitchM> i believe it was mitch@kci.net
[07:01] <ompaul> MitchM, now there is service
[07:02] <MitchM> where?
[07:02] <MitchM> around*
[07:02] <MitchM> :)
[07:03] <MitchM> Does anyone want to make me a 1 page website for Devubuntu.com ?
[07:03] <ompaul> I read it again and am still stunned :)
[07:03] <MitchM> basiclly just saying "contact me for free webhosting"
[07:03] <MitchM> ok omplaul I was going to try and pretend I knew what you were talkinga bout
[07:04] <MitchM> but im really lost :-P
[07:04] <MitchM> you are talking about the "doesnt want to re-register" ?
[07:06] <ompaul> MitchM,  elkbuntu is the the boss of the counter type of coffee? :-)
[07:07] <MitchM> ompaul: Well -- let me go crawl into my dark corner for a little bit... maybe I'll wake up in an hour.
[07:07] <elkbuntu> MitchM, no so soon
[07:08] <ompaul> MitchM, ohh no you don't ;-)
[07:08] <MitchM> lol
[07:08] <ompaul> get back 'ere
[07:08] <elkbuntu> did you ever get an email when you registered, pray tell, mitch?
[07:08] <MitchM> Oh I believe I did...
[07:08] <MitchM> Among... the "stuff"
[07:09] <elkbuntu> did you cahnge the email registered afterwards at all?
[07:09] <MitchM> negative
[07:09] <MitchM> what is the subject line of the automated e-mail>
[07:09] <MitchM> ?
[07:09] <elkbuntu> is .inet a regular domain extention now-days?
[07:10] <MitchM> I dont believe so.
[07:10] <elkbuntu> the email for your accoutn is listed as: mitch@kci.inet
[07:10] <MitchM> *chuckles*
[07:10] <MitchM> good ol' typo
[07:10] <elkbuntu> i hope you remember the password
[07:10] <MitchM> I have an idea ?
[07:10] <MitchM> what is the username?
[07:11] <MitchM> same as e-mail addy
[07:11] <elkbuntu> i pm'd you
[07:11] <MitchM> ?
[07:11] <MitchM> affirm
[07:11] <MitchM> =) tahts me
[07:11] <MitchM> thats*
[07:11] <elkbuntu> hehhe
[07:12] <MitchM> my gaming alias...
[07:12] <elkbuntu> hheh. try log in.. i can reset the password if you cant remember it
[07:12] <MitchM> k
[07:13] <MitchM> thats a negative =)
[07:14] <elkbuntu> hehe sec while i encrypt a string for you
[07:20] <MitchM> Anyone care to make a 1 page "ad" for free hosting for me?
[07:21] <MitchM> I know some in here possess far greater design skills...
[07:22] <elkbuntu> MitchM, if by tomrorow menza hasnt, then i will
[07:22] <MitchM> :-) awesome
[07:22] <MenZa> Wha'?
[07:22] <MitchM> I joined the marketing team to help out; and all I get is help...
[07:22] <MitchM> kind of backwards =)
[07:24] <elkbuntu> we started using linux because it was free stuff for us, now we're helping make it. ironies never cease to amaze ;)
[07:24] <MitchM> well put
[07:42] <elkbuntu> ninite marketeers