[12:05] very nice [12:05] I just "barrowed" a company UPS label for such purposes =) [12:05] got about 4 per side [12:05] stickered my "cubicle" [12:09] nixternal: are those from the german site? [12:10] nope, i made those today [12:10] ah [12:10] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PoweredBy [12:10] And... you did know that I already did quite a bit of work on stickers... right? [12:10] :) === jenda searches for URL [12:11] http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/Batch%201,%20Stickers/ [12:11] That's all the works in progress too. [12:11] i just replied to John's email... [12:11] jenda : with the stickers I ordered what color do i get? [12:12] nice work jenda [12:12] MitchM: brown [12:12] as on the wiki [12:13] jenda, i likey likey those stickers [12:13] nixternal: should I add yours on there too? [12:13] i don't care ;) [12:13] add um, hack um, do whatever ;) [12:13] Actually, I think I should write a report of my activity to the ML... [12:13] hehe ;) [12:13] =) [12:14] actually, it might be best to just commit them to bzr - we have some diy in there... damn I gotta make some order in that :( [12:15] OK - I won't touch them now, but ASAP, I'll try to figure out the best way for us to store such data. [12:15] im talking to one of the Ubuntu Chicago guys at Ubucon right now..he is on his blackberry, chillin' with Corey Burger at the Gnome booth === jenda inclines towards the simplicity of the ssh server. [12:15] aww [12:15] i didn't know you could jabber with a blackberry [12:20] nixternal: Aha - I see. Yours include Kubuntu and the rest... [12:20] I wonder if I could sell those if I printed them. [12:21] (Oh, and BTW, all those stickers aren't my design. I worked only on the case badges - Ville "Commodore" Sokk designed the rest) [12:24] i just whipped the ones on that page up in less then 5 minutes i think [12:24] the hardest part was the rounded rectangle ;) [12:24] you should include a batch with the url nixternal [12:25] that way people that dont know what it is can just go to the website [12:26] i can that [12:26] that is actually a great idea === nixternal gets to work [12:28] nixternal, I have a suggestion... [12:28] http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/Batch%201,%20Stickers/poweredbyubuntularge.svg [12:29] That might be a good base for a "download Ubuntu at www.ubuntu.com" sticker... [12:29] nixternal: and please see: http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/Batch%201,%20Stickers/download.svg === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [12:39] The Houston Chronicle contacted me about Ubuntu Video today..they might be doing a story on it. [12:39] wow ) [12:39] 7th biggest us paper..I might know something this week [12:41] so how many different batches of stickers are you guys printing up? [12:41] That is very cool. [12:41] I'm printing three - wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Shipping [12:45] johnlittle: I've got a couple of people from Toronto meeting up next week to discuss videos :) [12:45] I'll have to keep you updated about what we're doing [12:45] awesome [12:45] start a wiki [12:45] how'd you find them? [12:45] they're members of Ubuntu Canada [12:46] very cool [12:46] I'm thinking I'll start a wiki subpage under the CanadianTeam page [12:46] like CanadianTeam/Toronto [12:46] feel free to lay down a Rush track and drink beer on camera [12:47] haha [12:47] I just talked my 14 year old niece into staring in some linux commercials..we might make some this weekend [12:48] shes a goofball so that could be interesting [12:49] niice [12:50] I'll forward you an idea someone just tossed out on the ubuntu-ca mailing list [12:50] k [12:52] sent [12:53] very cool..you guys are going all out huh [12:53] just do anything but an Xgl demo please ;) [12:54] haha [12:54] 900 linux video on the web and 850 of them are Xgl demos [12:54] well, we'll see what happens next week [12:54] cool..whatever you come up with will be cool [12:54] it doesnt have to be uber professional [12:57] you can't get paid since you hang out here int he marketing channel..otherwise i will sue you all and own your stinkin' cameras ;) [12:57] typical new york snobbish attitude..you detect that at all? [12:57] http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2261 [12:57] wha? [12:57] woohoo...kubuntu is gonna have the hardware info db built in now [12:58] we sure could use access to that [12:58] http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/ [01:00] maybe you wont krash as much [01:00] ;P [01:01] lots of laptops [01:05] amazing video: http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=6313613059572588466&hl=en === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:13] what program is that? [01:15] Penmount touchscreen [01:15] the guy is running gentoo but its so cool i may post it anyway [01:15] what do you think? [01:18] oh man he drops the F bomb right in the middle [01:19] ya typical gentoo ricer user [01:19] i wouldn't post it, plus you can easily do that with every other os there is [01:21] make me an ubuntu version ;p [01:22] i could post it with the headline "Typical Gentoo User" and watch the war start [01:23] be nice [01:23] :) [01:23] But of course [01:24] nothin but love ;) === rjian [n=IHMC@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjian [n=IHMC@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjian [n=IHMC@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === hybrid [n=x@dpc6745217221.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [03:43] Hello people === lophyte [n=dave@HSE-MTL-ppp70578.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === hybrid [n=x@easyubuntu/supporter/hybrid] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:02] rjian, where abouts are you located? .au? === sara [n=sara@pool-70-106-97-34.pskn.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Rinchen [n=Rinchen@ubuntu/member/rinchen] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjian [n=IHMC@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:16] rjian, ping? [04:22] hello elkbuntu [04:24] rjian, where abouts are you located? .au? [04:25] nope Philippines [04:26] y elkbuntu? [04:28] rjian, just wondering. if you were from .au i was going to invite you into the loco team channel === rjia1 [n=IHMC@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjia1 is now known as rjian [04:36] elkbuntu you mean u want me to join on ur team? === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-89.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === bimberi_ [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjian [n=IHMC@203.87.182.102] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] [05:37] http://www.osnews.com/img/15517/linuxworld2.jpg [05:37] anyone recognize?? [05:38] Corey Burger and Jorge Castro === rjian [n=rjian@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:55] johnlittle, ping? [05:55] elkbuntu: pong [05:56] how can i sort of shrink the resolution of a vid? i've made one with xvidcap of the akamaru kiba dock.. but it's sort of 1280x768 frames :| [05:56] it's an mpeg [05:57] i cant seem to see a way to record with smaller frames.. or im not understanding how... === johnlittle has never done video stuff [05:58] crazy huh lol [05:58] let me look at something [05:59] elkbuntu: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-rescale.html [05:59] thanks ormiret [06:00] what he said === rjian [n=IHMC@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjian [n=IHMC@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MitchM_ [i=MitchM_@72.174.227.36] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:42] G'Night marketing gurus [06:53] :) [06:53] night dude === rjian [n=IHMC@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:13] night gang [07:36] elkbuntu: ping [07:37] johnlittle, pong? thought you went to bed [07:37] checking my mail one last time and saw your post..awesome. its up on the site. thanks [07:37] nice [07:38] ah.. one thing.. it's not my dock [07:38] You didn't record the demo? [07:38] as in, i didnt make it [07:38] i did [07:38] close enough..that's what I meant [07:38] but.. say it's my dock might get people annoyed [07:39] hmm [07:39] nixternal, nice Powered By... graphics, btw [07:39] there [07:40] worked your name into the body [07:40] ok ;) [07:40] ok thanks again..nite [07:41] nite john [08:00] thx Madpilot [08:01] nixternal, I'm actually working on a more colourful version of your Ubuntu one right now :) [08:01] sweet! [08:01] im a newbie when it comes to graphics..so of course mine are very basic === rjian [n=IHMC@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:05] nixternal, they work, only problem is they use MS fonts :( [08:07] i used arial i know..but the other fonts in linux i really don't like [08:07] samanta or whatever is kind of cool, but renders poorly at small sizes [08:10] nixternal, http://www.warbard.ca/temp/PbU-colour.png [08:10] thats purty ;) [08:11] inkscape is a weakness for me..i can't do the funky stuff yet [08:11] thanks [08:11] great Inkscape textbook, online: http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/ [08:12] that dark red/maroon colour at the bottom of the PbU might be too dark, but it's such a nice colour... [08:23] yarr === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjia1 [n=IHMC@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === spiral777 [n=spiral@ip70-186-103-228.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === spiral777 [n=spiral@ip70-186-103-228.ma.dl.cox.net] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] === {alejandro} [n={alejand@c-69-255-34-121.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjia1 is now known as rjian === coopster [n=bcoop@c-68-52-251-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjia1 [n=IHMC@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjia1 is now known as rjian [08:52] nixternal, one minor tweak to the coloured version: http://www.warbard.ca/temp/poweredbyubuntu-coloured.png [08:52] SVG here: http://www.warbard.ca/temp/poweredbyubuntu-coloured.svg [08:53] I'll create a space for them on the PoweredBy page in a bit [08:53] what was the tweak [08:54] grey drop shadow under the logo [08:55] Madpilot: i don't think the two colors will look good on paper. [08:57] jenda, the dark red, you mean? I'm afraid of that myself [08:58] hello people [08:59] Madpilot: if you are tweaking, how about removing the "linux"? [09:00] keep the linux, thats what Ubuntu is [09:00] or changing it to GNU/linux [09:00] arg, that stinkin' GNU always shovin' its nose in ;) [09:00] RMS/Linux ;) [09:00] lol [09:00] arg, rms is over with [09:01] Thank you for taking part in the Microsoft Future Assured Quiz. [09:01] Your copy of Windows Vista Beta 2 CD will be dispatched shortly [09:01] just because people are still making the mistake that the OS is called "Ubuntu Linux" and we should avoid encouraging that [09:01] Madpilot: I mean the color break... I'd go with a single color [09:01] haha [09:01] jenda, how much do your stickers cost? [09:02] Madpilot, nixternal, the name is Ubuntu - not Ubnutu Linux... [09:02] elkbuntu: $3 for 10, $5 for 20, $10 for 50 [09:02] well "linux for human beings" wouldn't fit [09:02] err... make thta $8 for 40 - I don't have 50 left anymore :-D [09:02] yeah, nothing is better [09:02] nixternal, it would, but not readably :) [09:02] and like i said...you are free to change it [09:02] which currency? [09:03] im not changing it [09:03] nixternal: what's the reason, you just don't have time, or you actively want to promote the name "Ubuntu linux"? [09:03] and im willing to wait for the next batch [09:03] i created revision 1, release it to the world..the great thing about open source is people can do what ever they want with..im promoting open source, go ahead and hack away ;) [09:04] I don't know how to change that, and Madpilot seems to be playing with it now, so I thought I'd mention it [09:04] that, and im about to goto bed ;) [09:04] nixternal, personlly, "Ubuntu Linux - Linux for Human Beings" is like saying "Automatic Teller Machine Machine" (for ATM Machine) [09:04] i will change it eventually ;) [09:04] http://www.warbard.ca/temp/poweredbyubuntu-coloured2.png [09:04] i was going to do it earlier, but got sidetracked [09:05] nice [09:05] well see, if im sitting n the cafe, which i normall do, and people see "Powered by Ubuntu Linux" then they don't ask me what Ubuntu is, and i stay peaceful ;) [09:05] looks good Madpilot ;) [09:05] thnx [09:05] Madpilot, a. like the shadow, b. move "ubuntu" down a wee bit [09:07] use the source, elkbuntu ;) http://www.warbard.ca/temp/poweredbyubuntu-coloured2.svg [09:07] what's 'a wee bit'? into the middle of the box it's in? [09:08] meh, i was just suggesting, it looks odd being non-centered without the 'linux' bit at the bottom to balance it [09:08] true [09:12] our wiki is garbage [09:13] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PoweredBy [09:13] mdke: updated!!! [09:13] ;) [09:13] I knew if i nagged enough... [09:13] thanks [09:13] lol [09:14] i forgot just how simple it was to just remove the linux anyways [09:14] nixternal, isn't SVG cool? :) [09:14] that is a great thing w/o a doubt [09:14] i just wish i was better with it [09:17] practice practice practice ;) [09:19] open Inkscape for half an hour every day and just mess around [09:19] http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu-distorted1.png [09:20] looks like a donut that sat out in the sun for to long [09:20] heh [09:20] got sat on by a cop, perhaps ;) [09:21] http://www.warbard.ca/temp/C152-photo2.png - photo converted into SVG, effects added in Inkscape [09:29] Madpilot, nixternal, do you think I could ask you to upload your results to doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing? [09:30] I PM'd you both the password. [09:30] The password is to be given freely to all MT members who need it [09:30] i was gonna say...i am not that cool :) but i guess i am ;) [09:31] jenda, the wiki can store files just fine - why spread things out further? [09:31] And... there's a DIY diractory - Please make an appropriately named subdir for your work :) [09:31] Madpilot: it would be a pain to store all the stuff in the DIY on the wiki. [09:31] A lot of work, that is. [09:31] put it under stickers jenda? [09:32] nixternal, yes, but please make it a Batch 2 directory [09:32] k [09:32] are we talking svn commit here? [09:32] since I will be picking for those for the second batch... [09:33] nixternal, nope. We have a bzr branch, but it seems to be of no use - it's not accessible through browser. [09:33] ahhh ha [09:33] gotcha [09:34] Madpilot: or is there a simpler way? [09:35] jenda, for file storage? Not really, AFAIK [09:35] Now the wiki should link to the material, I agree. [09:35] So - please don't hesitate to link to that directory whereever appropriate. [09:36] im definitely lost [09:36] hm? [09:36] use the bzr branch on launchpad to upload to? [09:36] no! ;) [09:37] how else am i to upload to doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing? [09:38] ssh [09:38] phone === Klaidas [n=klaidas@unaffiliated/klaidas] has joined #Ubuntu-marketing [09:38] gotcha [09:39] In your ubuntu, you can just click connect to server, ... [09:39] ahh... [09:39] I forgot: username - marketing :-) [09:41] nixternal, the directory that will show on that URL is /home/marketing/public_html [09:42] i am in the process of upin' now ;) [09:42] OK ;) [09:44] Madpilot: In fact, I was tending towards putting the showcase material on the wiki - whatever you want people to see, and have the bulk of the source files and discarded stuff on doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing (for example, .svg files for .pngs shown on the wiki). [09:44] It would seem overkill to put all of those things on the wiki. [09:45] http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/Batch_2_Stickers/ [09:46] perfect === mindspin [n=mindspin@pD95FEAD2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [09:49] OK, it's been ages since I've set up an SSH connection on Nautilus... why can't I connect? [09:50] Connection Type: SSH; Server: doc.ubuntu.com; User Name: marketing [09:51] ssh marketing@doc.ubuntu.com [09:51] from the cmd line [09:51] hehe [09:51] im so used to CLI, sorry ;) [09:51] my first 6 years in Linux were CLI, as the DE's were garbage then [09:52] in konqueror its fish//remote-adress [09:52] yup [09:52] good ol' fish [09:52] i rarely use konqi, except to look at images [09:52] but nautilus, no idea [09:52] sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [09:52] thats hwo [09:52] ;) [09:53] I recently started to use konqui, its not bad at all [09:53] for scping [09:53] i have been messing with the kio structure and what not a little bit helping out the kde devs with some testing..thats about it [09:53] i tried it for web browsing, and i cussed more than ever i think [09:54] You all inflict either the command line or KDE on yourselves? Am I the only Gnome user here? [09:54] hehe [09:54] ask in #ubuntu ;-) [09:55] I would use console [09:55] lol [09:56] I could, but I'd like to get it set up in Nautilus - so convenient [09:56] convinient, thats why I use konqui sometimes for that [09:57] 3am and i start a freakin' vmware install [09:57] like i need another linux distro running in vmware [09:57] Madpilot: Gnome here [09:57] but I can't see what's wrong there.. [09:57] jenda, good to know there's at least one other sane person present :) === digitalmouse [n=jimm@p5481D516.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [09:57] hehe :) [09:58] I spent three hours last nite for a remote upgrade from hoary to breezy to dapper and it failed at last because the disk was full :-( [09:58] greetings programs! [09:58] Madpilot, no, i use gnome :P [09:58] jenda, I'm probably doing something stupid WRT SSH setup... don't do it often enough === digitalmouse re-reads the last 12 hours of logs [09:58] Madpilot, pebkac :) [09:58] Madpilot: ssh is installed? [09:58] yep [09:59] Madpilot: hmm... when you click Connect to Server, don't forget to select SSH, since FTP is default... [09:59] mindspin, it's an outgoing SSH connection, I know they work, I just can't remember how to get Naut to cooperate :) [09:59] jenda, done that [09:59] hm [09:59] jenda, ...schwaaaa? ssh.. click.. wtf? [09:59] works OK here [09:59] elkbuntu: sorry :) [09:59] scp ftw [10:00] Madpilot: try setting /home/marketing/ as the directory... maybe we don't have permissions elsewhere.. [10:00] elkbuntu: could you send me an email with your order? I'll put you in the queue if folks don't ask for what they've ordered... [10:01] Damn, I think I'll order the next batch straight away. [10:01] jenda, what currency do you need the $$ in? === jenda slaps himself [10:01] No! [10:01] Gotta wait for feedback [10:01] That was USD, but I happily accept euro too [10:01] different price in that. [10:01] How many would you like, elkbuntu? [10:02] jenda, /home/marketing works - the server wasn't liking the short forms... :| [10:02] jenda, just 10 [10:03] jenda, im presuming you accept paypal too :P [10:04] yes [10:04] Madpilot: great ;) [10:04] then i'll definately send to you in euro, so paypal doesnt steal too much of it, they like to hike the exchange rates in their favour [10:05] unless you're in the states.. hard to tell with cloaked hostmasks :P [10:09] No, i'm in the Czech Republic... [10:09] and I thought USD transfers were cheaper... or at least last time I checked... [10:09] $0.30 vs 0.35... [10:09] jenda, not when you then transfer it from usd to euro [10:10] ah [10:10] wow ;) [10:10] tricks [10:10] they get twice the hidden exchange fee then ;) [10:10] So, how many would you like? [10:10] ah [10:10] 10 [10:10] missed it [10:10] i'm writing the email now, that way you cant forget [10:10] OK ;) [10:11] thx [10:11] it's easier to track that way. [10:11] (jenda, please don't use enter as punctuation...) [10:11] lol [10:16] strange how long it takes to type 2 lines of text sometimes... [10:37] g'nite everyone!!! [10:41] nite! [10:41] sleep tight [10:41] nite?? [10:42] chicago.... [10:42] 10:41 am here :-p [10:42] @now chicago [10:42] elkbuntu: gotcha ;) [10:42] time chicago [10:42] still morning in chicago.. that should be g'morning! [10:42] early morning [10:42] very [10:42] mindspin: no Ubugtu here ;) [10:42] i see [10:43] but someone did a time thing yesterday here [10:46] yarr === rjian [n=IHMC@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === matthewrevell [i=synchron@outbound.silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [11:45] matthewrevell: Hello [11:45] jenda: hi [11:47] I was thinking about the fridge+stickers a bit. I think it could make it to be a story as soon as I get a bit of feedback on from the end-users. THen i'll print a second batch, and then a bit of refridgeration would be great. I will even offer stickers for free who send stamped envelopes ;) [11:47] Except I'm not sure how I'll manage that part internationally. They'll probably have to send a dollar bill instead of a stamped envelope to pay for Czech stamps here... === jenda saw that the fridge already had a 'free stickers' story, but the difference is that i send them out in bulk to local Marketeers :) [11:49] Yep, that's great. [11:49] I'm sure we can do a follow-up [11:49] I think I prefer your stickers, particularly as you offer a Czech version :) [11:52] hehe [11:52] I was planning a french one, but I was afraid I wouldn't find enough of a 'market'. === jenda joins #ubuntu-fr and asks around a bit... [11:52] Ah, ubuntu-fr is pretty active. [11:52] My mate Bruno is a big chap for that sort of thing [11:54] Bruno? [11:56] sorry, kNo' is his nick [11:56] I'm just talking to him about it in #lugradio [11:56] You're welcome to join us :) [11:58] ;) [11:58] I'm inquiring in #ubuntu-fr [12:00] cool === jenda is very proud of himself :) Managed to communicate with the french folks without a problem, but I will ask them to write the message to their forums for me, because I wouldn't like it to be in glaringly wrong french :-D [12:06] hehe [12:12] Cool :) === MenZa [n=menza@0x50a16082.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [12:46] Oi... if one of the people who ordered stickers want a 10 sticker bonus... i need help with creating a one or two page website for it, and it would really be a lot of work to learn for me. [12:48] jenda, i can do something, and no need to worry about any bonus [12:48] hehe :) [12:49] I don't mind sending 10 more. The printer gave me a bonus anyway :) [12:49] hehe [12:49] i wouldnt know what to do with the extra 10 [12:49] i only have 3 machines [12:51] Spread the love. [12:51] I made it 8, because that way I don't have to cut as much. [12:52] Ooh, australia. That'll probably make good use of the extra 0.50 ;) [12:53] ;) [12:53] jenda: would you mind if I sent a couple to Sweden? A guy just requested some from me. [12:54] sounds like you are running a regular printing racket, jenda :-) [12:54] MenZa, you can make the site for him for the bonus stickers ;) [12:54] MenZa: well what can I do ;) [12:54] elkbuntu: great idea! ;) [12:54] jenda: it was more the fact that I already sold them to you :) [12:54] elkbuntu: MenZa has his own stickers which i bought off him... I don't remember why, though :) [12:55] so you can have a collection? [12:55] MenZa: can you do basic web design? [12:55] jenda: I can. Why? [12:55] elkbuntu: of 300 extra sticks? sure... :-D === matthewrevell [i=synchron@outbound.silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [12:55] jenda, well.. case stickers dont necissarily have to show any of the case :D [12:56] MenZa: we'll make a deal - you'll make me a simple one page ubuntu-themed site (no real content needed), and you can send all you want... [12:56] jenda: deal. Do you have any mockups ready? [12:56] elkbuntu: great point. But the keyboard of my laptop should show. [12:56] MenZa: nope === MenZa grinds teeth [12:56] jenda: I'll see what I can do. [12:56] I'll look at it in an hour or two. [12:57] i was going to do it but im arguing with some of my hosts atm, so im not in the best position [12:57] Basically, an Ubuntu header, and a place to put a few pictures, some descriptions and a short article describing the project should be enough. [12:57] MenZa: no hurry [12:57] Good then :) [12:58] I'll add space later on, encouraging others to do similar projects, and offering to host those projects there as well. So that a visitor can choose from all the people who send out DIY material around the world. [12:58] Just a single page? [12:58] im having a real crap week internet wise. two webhosts being silly and brother sucked all the bandwidth so we're shaped to dialup speed :( [12:58] Do you want room for more pages? [12:59] e.g. a navigation bar? [12:59] If it's possible [12:59] yes, it would be great. [12:59] Will do. [12:59] OK, I'm going to the post office. === bimberi [n=dave@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [12:59] I'm counting on giving a few to you rather in person, MenZa. [12:59] jenda: Speaking of which, we might get a bit of time for ourselves :) [12:59] elkbuntu: seen the ML lately? [01:00] MenZa: that's great :) [01:00] well, jenda later on after MenZa's done some awesome css stuff, he's better at it than me, i can dynamicise it for later projects [01:00] Ourselves, and beer. [01:00] matthewrevell, yes. ompaul had a snigger about it too [01:00] elkbuntu: perfect, thanks [01:00] elkbuntu: why, thank you :) [01:00] matthewrevell, elkbuntu... would you be referring to JB? [01:01] jenda, indeed [01:01] elkbuntu, it was more like - who'd a thunk it eh? [01:01] hehe [01:01] jenda, he has no sense of humour, as ompaul said [01:01] the guy did not / does not get OSS [01:01] jenda: can't promise that, I'm pretty sure I'll be shipped off home if I drink ;) [01:01] He didn't lack enthusiasm... and free time, though. [01:02] hehe, OK, MenZa. I'll have a beer, you can have a coke. :-D [01:02] it is not centralized - it is distributed [01:02] Great :) [01:02] (I don't mind beer myself, but my teachers... groan.) === ompaul starts a business shipping americans here between the ages of 18 and 21 [01:03] .ie [01:03] I thought I was in -offtopic sorry [01:03] lol [01:03] ompaul, market it as 'if you use ubuntu we'll ship you here' ;) [01:04] for beer? [01:04] Yummy, beer. [01:04] im sure we'd get plenty of underage switchers [01:04] elkbuntu, 18 is legal here [01:04] yeah, but under 21 in most states of america is underage drinking [01:04] 16 for Denmark. === MenZa dances [01:05] MenZa, lucky bugger [01:05] :D [01:07] Wow, very lucky [01:07] ^^ === matthewrevell [i=synchron@outbound.silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:38] jenda: I have a mockup ready for you in a second. [01:38] wow, great [01:39] I was just about to REALLY leave for the post office :) [01:39] will you give me 40 minutes? [01:39] [01:39] jenda: then go, I'll have it done when you're back ;) [01:39] OK, great. === MenZa prods elkbuntu [01:39] hmm? [01:39] Any chance you can make a couple of feeds with the data from the counter? e.g. total number of users, total number of ubuntu users, total machines, clusters etc. etc. [01:40] (brb) [01:40] yeah, i've been meaning too, even though i suck with xml [01:41] Not as much as I do ;) [01:42] afk also, i'll find a tute to hug like a teddy bear when i get back [01:42] O_o [01:42] My idea is to include a parser here, which says how many users are using Ubuntu. [01:42] ^_^ [02:21] the fridge wants something similar also i believe === FirstStrike [n=firsty@nv-76-3-148-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:21] zomg [02:22] why hullo thar. [02:23] yay, shipped [02:24] yay [02:24] jenda: just a second. [02:27] jenda: ping [02:28] http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/487/ubuntumarkos7.png [02:28] :D [02:31] i'm the anime geek out of the three [02:31] lol [02:31] Anime++ [02:31] ;d [02:31] Anyway, jenda. Ping!. [02:32] pong [02:32] looks great :) === jenda is writing down the shipping costs - accounting, sorry for not concentrating :) [02:35] No worries. [02:35] I'm gonna start coding this then :) [02:35] Thanks [02:43] I need the RSS feeds from Elkbuntu though. [02:43] Half the stickers are gone, and 76% has been paid for. Looks optimistic. [02:43] :O [02:43] Wow. [02:43] The shipping is cheaper than i expected, so where the stickers, and some people leave tips :-D [02:43] It's great - the profit will be used to fuel some marketing efforts... === Klaidas [n=klaidas@unaffiliated/klaidas] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:44] :D [02:44] It will also help fund the next batch, starting by what I'm buying from you. How many will there be left? [02:44] I'm not sure, 280-300 or so. [02:45] Good nuff [02:45] basically, it boils down to $1/10pcs, which is a good price. The same I had. === MagicFab [n=magicfab@modemcable113.78-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:45] gd, gd :) [02:45] I'll buy it from the profit, if there turns up to be one (I'm still $30 in the red) [02:46] Ah. === matthewrevell [i=synchron@outbound.silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === hybrid [n=x@dpc6745217221.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:52] the rss feeds might be a bit off, MenZa sort of run out of space on the counter hosting 'cos of the stats... negotiating with the host now [02:52] wooh, my Ubuntu membership got approved [02:52] yay === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:52] elkbuntu: good, good :) [02:52] matthewrevell: CONGRATULATIONS! [02:52] congrats matthewrevell :) [02:52] Welcome to the team! [02:52] cheers :) [02:52] You deserve it. [02:52] thanks [02:53] elkbuntu: point out it's a non-profit project helping thousands of people. [02:53] MenZa, it's el-cheapo hosting [02:53] jenda: when did you ubuntu.com address get sorted? [02:53] elkbuntu: no way as cheap as mine. [02:54] MenZa, no, it's not free :P [02:54] lol elkbuntu [02:54] Point taken. [02:54] matthewrevell: it took a while... I'm not sure how long. [02:54] anywhere from 3 days to 14 :-D [02:54] jenda: Ah, okay. No rush. === hybrid [n=x@dpc6745217221.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:55] elkbuntu: MitchM was offering hostage... I dunno if it's still up for grabs, though. [02:55] Hello hybrid [02:55] jenda, the cost is no bother, it's just.. i didnt realise the account was so full [02:56] matthewrevell: i thought it happened automatically from the launchpad id [02:56] I didn't mean cost - but maybe the quality is better, dunno. [02:56] bimberi: it does, but takes a while. [02:56] MitchM: Yeah? oh. [02:57] matthewrevell: congrats btw - i didn't get the chance to say that herding the marketing team cats was worth double points ;) [02:57] bimberi: :-D [02:57] jenda: XHTML done. [02:57] Now for the tricky part. [02:57] CSS: === MenZa groans === jenda doesn't understand, so doesn't groan... [02:58] :-D [02:58] lol [02:58] HTML part is done. CSS isn't. === jenda does, in fact. Marginally. [02:58] Ask elkbuntu. She knows what I'm talking about. [02:58] ;) [02:58] That i did understand :-D [02:58] In fact, I even know what they stand for. [02:59] it can be, but that looks like it'll be ok, just a bit fiddly between browsers [02:59] not necessarily. [02:59] I just hate CSS because it's a hassle. [02:59] And you have so much code to do. [03:03] MenZa: CSS is superb! [03:03] It does great stuff. [03:03] But it's so faulty. [03:03] Bug number one of CSS: The W3 are unable to properly spell words like 'colour'. [03:03] ;) [03:03] W3C [03:04] MenZa: It's implementation varies too much between browsers, but that's largely because the W3C standards are a bit vague, AFAIK. [03:04] Yes, they are. [03:05] matthewrevell, not really.. the standards are set, ie makes up their own, firefox deviates a slight bit, opera is the most strict [03:08] KHTML too, elkbuntu. [03:08] I think. [03:08] Konqueror passes the Acid2 test, right? [03:08] no idea [03:08] I believe it does. [03:08] but i believe so [03:08] And Safari, too--I believe. [03:08] (no TinyMCE support though ;D) [03:08] MenZa: do you need the $25 now? [03:09] jenda: nah, I can wait. [03:09] (or want) [03:09] heh, no worries. [03:09] Just pay me when you feel you can afford it ;) [03:09] brb === MenZa [n=menza@0x50a16082.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["o_O"] [03:09] OK, that'd be now :) === MenZa [n=menza@0x50a16082.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [03:09] Detached the tab by accident [03:09] brb [03:09] OK, MenZa, what's your paypal account? [03:10] menza@menza.org [03:10] Don't send them if you don't feel you can afford it :) [03:13] Of course I can - I have nothing to do with the money on that paypal account :-D [03:14] I can't withdraw them, and there's nothing I plan to buy straight away. [03:16] sent [03:36] matthewrevell: ping [03:41] jenda: hello [03:41] oi ;) [03:42] If you send me your address, I can send you the stickers, you know ;) [03:42] jenda: Oh, sorry, I keep forgetting. [03:42] hang on === jenda hangs [03:44] jenda, how much did the postage to .au cost? [03:45] 11 CZK, prioritaire :) [03:45] which is $0.5 [03:45] (USD) [03:45] (almost exactly) [03:45] ah good, the extra .5 was worth it then :) [03:57] menza: if you have not already seen this: http://www.webdevout.net/browser_info_prefs.php it's a decent cross-reference to see how the different browsers stack up to the standards at the moment (might not be 'real-time', but it's recent) [03:57] oh nice [03:57] thanks. === MagicFab [n=magicfab@modemcable113.78-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [03:57] jenda: almost done with the first code here === digitalmouse [n=jimm@p5481D516.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] [03:58] great ;) [03:59] elkbuntu: Well, in fact, I already counted that in, and I counted in a fair percentage of risk-fee (to cover the expenses of lost packages, unsold stickers, unpaid-for ones etc.). [04:00] So the 50 is an appreciated tip :) [04:00] fair enough :) [04:01] if you havent already done so, you should set a 'pay by' period at which point they will go back on the market [04:01] ie, 14 days, 21 days etc [04:04] hello [04:05] I am looking to compare Fedora and ubuntu in servers environment. Does anyone know of resources with white paper /case study structure ? [04:05] I guess i'have to do that, yeah. [04:05] hmm [04:05] Afraid not, MagicFab.. [04:05] MagicFab: Hmmm, it'd be great if we did. [04:06] MagicFab: I'll put it on the list of things to do. [04:06] I have a customer for 4 servers pushing for Fedora, unless I can prove my point :) [04:07] hmm.. the security response time article would be a good start [04:08] MagicFab: Canonical are gathering case studies at the moment, but I don't know if anything they have is comparative. [04:08] jenda: I think we need to greatly simplify the "Marketing team purpose" section of the wiki page [04:09] elkbuntu, nice suggestion, I have it somewhere [04:09] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/481 [04:09] matthewrevell: agreed... for ages :) [04:09] MagicFab: I think Fedora and Ubuntu come equal on that case study. [04:09] elkbuntu: Definitely a good suggestion tho [04:10] jenda: I'd like to see something very simple there. We have too little structure to be too specific, at the moment. [04:10] jenda: I'll post suggested text to the ML [04:11] did jb unsubscribe? [04:11] elkbuntu: yep [04:11] ok then.. because he'd probably take this as proving him right and he'd jump right back in === mindspin [n=mindspin@pD95FEAD2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:12] elkbuntu: What, changing some of the text on the team wiki page? [04:13] i dunno.. i sorta think he was wanting to do that or something, or that's the jist i got from his rambling [04:14] I think there was a lot going on that he felt uncomfortable with === sara [n=sara@pool-70-106-97-34.pskn.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:14] Meanwhile.. i really dont get why people do this: "The newest Ubuntu Cluster is: ubuntu (1 Ubuntu Dapper)" [04:15] Probably because they do not know what a cluster is. [04:16] It shouldn't be too difficult to prevent that, no? [04:17] jenda, in the user cp it says cluster/network [04:18] hm [04:18] it doesnt matter really [04:18] still gets counted up right... it's just there to let people with 101 machines add them as easily as if they had 1 [04:19] right [04:19] cool [04:19] hmm maybe they might consider them a cluster because of distributed clustering [04:20] Hello sara [04:21] elkbuntu, 1 box is 1 box. :) [04:21] if they are a node on seti, they dont /own/ a cluster === Kamping_Kaiser goes back under his hole [04:22] i know.. the cluster thing is a convenience thing more than a statistical thing [04:23] Kamping_Kaiser: BTW, i got Canonical's approval on the easyubuntu logo [04:23] I _think_ I sent it to the EU ML [04:23] jenda, rock on :). thanks mate [04:23] np === Kamping_Kaiser hasnt got email from that list for yonks, dont know if i'm on it [04:24] I think it doesn't work, anyway :) [04:26] ok, RFC: should i (try and) do tafe work , or (try and) write a letter of resignation? [04:26] :) === Steggy [n=josh_ste@65.167.140.170] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:06] jenda: I got distracted, sorry. I'm almost done with it now. [05:33] jenda: ping [05:42] jenda: ping [05:44] http://um.menza.org [05:44] Any thoughts? === MenZa prods elkbuntu === MenZa prods Klaidas [05:44] looking now === MenZa prods ompaul === Kamping_Kaiser slaps MenZa before he gets poked [05:45] And elkbuntu, how'd that discussion with your host end up? === MenZa wasn't going to poke Kamping_Kaiser [05:45] You're not exclusive enough. [05:45] :) [05:45] main one sort of sorted, the other still being annoying [05:45] ;\ [05:46] How's the design? [05:46] :) === ompaul pokes MenZa I'll look in a few minutes [05:46] Right :) [05:47] the gold around the edges doesnt match with the rest in ie6 in wine [05:47] MenZa, CHANGE that bit now: Current number of machines running Ubuntu: To Current number of counted boxes we think there are about 6 million but hey we won't know til they are counted :) [05:47] heh [05:48] ompaul, lol === MenZa kinda like sthe outcome [05:48] likes the* [05:49] take the link colours up a touch in darkness, the colour on the white is a bit fuzzy with my eyes [05:49] even worse in the counter box :| [05:54] elkbuntu: refresh. [05:55] yeah that's better [05:55] :) [05:56] i wouldnt bother about the ie thing.. unless it does it in native as well [05:56] IE? [05:56] Er [05:56] "IE thing" [05:56] :p [05:56] the gold around the edges doesnt match with the rest in ie6 in wine [06:00] oh? [06:01] that's because IE6 = horrible at rendering PNGs. [06:01] :p [06:01] But I refuse to use any other file format (oh, such a rebel I am [06:01] ) [06:01] hehe [06:04] IE6 is teh lose :p === MenZa checks the page in IE7 [06:04] duh.. but we dont want to look tacky [06:04] True, true. [06:05] For you, elkbuntu, I'll convert them to jpegs. [06:05] ;D [06:05] ;) [06:05] I can't believe it; even IE7 displays PNGs wrong. [06:05] AND doesn't support :before [06:05] Bastards. [06:05] ... effing ms [06:06] Yeah. === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:10] hi jenda [06:10] I'm almost done with it [06:11] guys.. convo i had earlier with a mcse dutch friend who lives in switzerland: http://meldra.no-ip.info:8080/ok-no-suse.txt [06:14] Uploading, elkbuntu. [06:16] You didn't bother telling him about OpenSuSE? [06:16] :D [06:16] And OS X is leet [06:16] It > any Linux distro imo ;) === MenZa prods elkbuntu [06:16] http://um.menza.org [06:16] (still uploading) [06:17] MenZa, hell no [06:17] and jenda, you too. === MenZa shrugs [06:17] I'd use it any day. [06:17] i want him to try ubuntu, fool === Klaidas [n=klaidas@unaffiliated/klaidas] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] [06:18] os x=prorietary, and opensuse is still novel, just with freedom ;) [06:20] MenZa, much better [06:20] :D [06:42] greetings all === spiral777 [n=spiral@ip70-186-103-228.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:58] MenZa, please change: Current number of machines running Ubuntu: to Current number of registered machines counted at the community counter: or something like that (check with elkbuntu for phrasing) ;-) [06:59] or check the counter ;) [06:59] Register with the counter [06:59] elkbuntu, then it is incumbent on you to provide a path back to where it came from if it came from "a recognised" ubuntu site :) === ompaul is getting rather evil there === MitchM lost his ubuntu counter username & e-mail isnt working.... [07:00] you mean like the (register) he has on there? or whatever it is === MitchM doesnt want to re-register for a larger number =) [07:01] hehe [07:01] what email addy? [07:01] i believe it was mitch@kci.net === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:01] MitchM, now there is service [07:02] where? === MitchM looks aroudn [07:02] around* === ompaul looks at MitchM I can't believe you just said that :) [07:02] :) [07:03] Does anyone want to make me a 1 page website for Devubuntu.com ? [07:03] I read it again and am still stunned :) [07:03] basiclly just saying "contact me for free webhosting" [07:03] ok omplaul I was going to try and pretend I knew what you were talkinga bout [07:04] but im really lost :-P [07:04] you are talking about the "doesnt want to re-register" ? === MitchM slaps himself and smells the coffee. [07:06] MitchM, elkbuntu is the the boss of the counter type of coffee? :-) [07:07] ompaul: Well -- let me go crawl into my dark corner for a little bit... maybe I'll wake up in an hour. [07:07] MitchM, no so soon [07:08] MitchM, ohh no you don't ;-) [07:08] lol [07:08] get back 'ere === MitchM runs for the closet. [07:08] did you ever get an email when you registered, pray tell, mitch? [07:08] Oh I believe I did... [07:08] Among... the "stuff" [07:09] did you cahnge the email registered afterwards at all? [07:09] negative [07:09] what is the subject line of the automated e-mail> [07:09] ? [07:09] is .inet a regular domain extention now-days? [07:10] I dont believe so. [07:10] the email for your accoutn is listed as: mitch@kci.inet [07:10] *chuckles* [07:10] good ol' typo [07:10] i hope you remember the password [07:10] I have an idea ? [07:10] what is the username? [07:11] same as e-mail addy [07:11] i pm'd you [07:11] ? [07:11] affirm [07:11] =) tahts me [07:11] thats* [07:11] hehhe [07:12] my gaming alias... [07:12] hheh. try log in.. i can reset the password if you cant remember it [07:12] k [07:13] thats a negative =) === spiral777 [n=spiral@ip70-186-103-228.ma.dl.cox.net] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] [07:14] hehe sec while i encrypt a string for you === MitchM bows down to elkbuntu [07:20] Anyone care to make a 1 page "ad" for free hosting for me? [07:21] I know some in here possess far greater design skills... [07:22] MitchM, if by tomrorow menza hasnt, then i will [07:22] :-) awesome [07:22] Wha'? [07:22] I joined the marketing team to help out; and all I get is help... [07:22] kind of backwards =) [07:24] we started using linux because it was free stuff for us, now we're helping make it. ironies never cease to amaze ;) [07:24] well put === mooey [n=chris@85-210-23-12.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:42] ninite marketeers === MitchM waves === Steggy [n=josh_ste@208.13.218.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MenZa [n=menza@0x50a16082.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === sara [n=sara@pool-70-106-97-34.pskn.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MenZa` [n=menza@0x50a16082.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === airjump [n=MZ@p508AE588.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === airjump [n=airjump@p508AE588.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === spiral777 [n=spiral@ip70-186-103-228.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === spiral777 [n=spiral@ip70-186-103-228.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MitchM_ [n=mitch@bouncer.kci.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === poningru_ [n=poningru@pool-72-64-211-106.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === poningru__ [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-89.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === airjump [n=airjump@p508AE588.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] === MagicFab [n=magicfab@modemcable113.78-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing