| imbrandon | moins / evening everyone | 12:10 |
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| === imbrandon yawns | ||
| imbrandon | ugh who is John Dong | 12:14 |
| zul | he was the backport guy | 12:14 |
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| ajmitch | morning Hobbsee | 12:15 |
| ajmitch | you're up insanely early today | 12:15 |
| Hobbsee | morning all | 12:15 |
| Hobbsee | hi ajmitch | 12:15 |
| zul | imbrandon: what happened? | 12:15 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: i'm at uni insanely early. i have no working car. | 12:15 |
| imbrandon | did i miss something or is there s specific reason he rejected my backport request filed against package source , and refiled the EXACT some request agains a "ubuntu-backports" project | 12:15 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: how unfortunate, what broke? | 12:15 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: the automatic transmission | 12:16 |
| ajmitch | ouch | 12:16 |
| zul | copy cat.. | 12:16 |
| ajmitch | so you had to catch an early bus in? | 12:16 |
| imbrandon | zul : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kbfx/+bug/56527 to see what i mean | 12:17 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 56527 in dapper-backports "[backport] request for kbfx 0.4.9.1+20060611cvs-1 from edgy -> dapper-backports" [Medium,In progress] | 12:17 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: you mean a bus, train, and another bus. | 12:17 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: no, i got dad to give me a lift | 12:17 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: I guess it's his way of tracking stuff | 12:17 |
| zul | that must be a fun ride | 12:18 |
| imbrandon | afaik it should be filed against the package source, that make sense, so you get the other information, is this a documented change somewhere ? | 12:18 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: I guess it gives you more time to work on that assignment :) | 12:18 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: true that... | 12:18 |
| Hobbsee | which assingment :P | 12:18 |
| === Hobbsee seems to have about ten of them. | ||
| Hobbsee | okay...3....one with two parts, so that makes 4... | 12:18 |
| ajmitch | the physics one you were worrying about | 12:19 |
| Hobbsee | oh. that was due yesterday, and i did that in my broken car while waiting for the towtruck. | 12:19 |
| zul | imbrandon: no idea | 12:19 |
| ajmitch | ah | 12:19 |
| ajmitch | you got it done though? | 12:20 |
| imbrandon | hrm he put it "in progress to" wth is that? is it building now ? so theres soyuz support? i love chnges when no one says WTH they are doing | 12:20 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: I'd say it means he's checking it out - nothing to do with soyuz | 12:20 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: yeah | 12:20 |
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| imbrandon | ajmitch: rember the convo last night about age of nicks on IRC, check this, i think he has everyone beat ( 136 years ) http://www.thedailywtf.com/images/200608/gaim-wtf.gif | 01:43 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 02:59 |
| ajmitch | hello | 02:59 |
| imbrandon | hey bddebian | 02:59 |
| bddebian | Hi ajmitch, imbrandon | 02:59 |
| Laser_away | hi guys | 02:59 |
| === StevenK waves to * | ||
| bddebian | Heya Laser_away, StevenK | 03:00 |
| === Laser_away goes to hunt down some food somewhere by campus | ||
| Laser_away | I hate how most of the on-campus food places shut down for the summer :( | 03:01 |
| imbrandon | wendys ;) | 03:01 |
| bddebian | Taco Bell! | 03:01 |
| Laser_away | well yeah, if I could walk there | 03:01 |
| Laser_away | but the wife has got the car | 03:01 |
| zul_ | subway | 03:01 |
| === StevenK ponders food, and decides against it. | ||
| Laser_away | mmmm, now you guys are making me even more hungry | 03:02 |
| === bddebian is eating ice cream | ||
| Laser_away | doh | 03:02 |
| zul_ | im having a slurpee | 03:02 |
| imbrandon | lol yo quero taco bell ? | 03:02 |
| StevenK | Laser_away: One word can take away your apitite. | 03:02 |
| === ajmitch should consider having some breakfast as well | ||
| imbrandon | mmmm slurpee , /me loves 7-11 slurpees | 03:02 |
| bddebian | Heh | 03:02 |
| StevenK | Laser_away: "McDonalds" | 03:02 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: bad | 03:02 |
| Laser_away | Big Mac!! | 03:03 |
| imbrandon | heh i like mcdonalds ;) | 03:03 |
| === ajmitch shudders | ||
| Laser_away | guess what I ate when I went to Paris? | 03:03 |
| bddebian | A Royale with Cheese ? ;-P | 03:03 |
| imbrandon | hahahah | 03:03 |
| ajmitch | Laser_away: please don't | 03:03 |
| Laser_away | no, highvoltage ate the Royale | 03:03 |
| jsgotangco | haha | 03:03 |
| Laser_away | I had the bigmac | 03:03 |
| jsgotangco | he ate le big mac | 03:03 |
| bddebian | hehe | 03:03 |
| bddebian | Mayonaise on your fries? | 03:04 |
| === imbrandon is reminded of pulp fiction | ||
| tseng | ugh | 03:04 |
| StevenK | Damn, now look what I've done. | 03:04 |
| tseng | mcdonalds | 03:04 |
| Laser_away | and then latter I went to a nice Subway shop across the river from Notre Dame ;-) | 03:04 |
| bddebian | imbrandon: Exactly why I said that ;-P | 03:04 |
| imbrandon | bddebian: hehe yea i caught it ;) | 03:04 |
| jsgotangco | Laser_away was sick of eating fish and non-american food | 03:04 |
| imbrandon | i love that movie | 03:04 |
| jsgotangco | i think the raw beef was clincher | 03:04 |
| Laser_away | well, after that hotel food McDonald's was a God-send | 03:04 |
| imbrandon | lol | 03:05 |
| bddebian | imbrandon: That whole sequence is one of the funniest things I have ever seen | 03:05 |
| tseng | hotel at ubuntu paris? | 03:05 |
| Laser_away | I thought I was going to die of starvation | 03:05 |
| jsgotangco | yea | 03:05 |
| Laser_away | or worse | 03:05 |
| tseng | australia was the same deal | 03:05 |
| tseng | a bunch of green stuff | 03:05 |
| bddebian | ugh | 03:05 |
| ajmitch | and far too much fish | 03:05 |
| jsgotangco | this was worse | 03:05 |
| tseng | i had to get all my calories in with the english breakfast | 03:05 |
| ajmitch | fish every single day at UDU | 03:05 |
| Laser_away | I would have taken salad any day | 03:05 |
| bddebian | What, no vegemite? | 03:05 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: of course there was | 03:05 |
| tseng | Laser_away: this wasnt lettuce like we have in america | 03:05 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: I've got a jar of it here if you want some | 03:05 |
| jsgotangco | they totally ignored vegans/vegetarians | 03:06 |
| tseng | with real big pieces of lettuce | 03:06 |
| tseng | it was all kinds of funny little things | 03:06 |
| imbrandon | heh | 03:06 |
| Laser_away | well, we had raw beef and pate (sp?) | 03:06 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Uhm, no thanks :-) | 03:06 |
| tseng | raw beef? | 03:06 |
| tseng | wtf | 03:06 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 03:06 |
| imbrandon | raw beef ? | 03:06 |
| Laser_away | I thought maybe there was a natural gas outage or something | 03:06 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: uncultured... | 03:06 |
| Laser_away | nothing was cooked | 03:06 |
| jsgotangco | its france! | 03:06 |
| Laser_away | steak tartar | 03:06 |
| Laser_away | or something | 03:06 |
| bddebian | ugh | 03:06 |
| Laser_away | a big plate of thin sliced raw beef | 03:07 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: I don't deny that :-) | 03:07 |
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| zul_ | mmmmm....pate | 03:07 |
| jsgotangco | green avocado which is spicy | 03:07 |
| === ajmitch prefers his steak to be cooked | ||
| === imbrandon thinks of all the deseases from raw meat | ||
| tseng | i eat sushi | 03:07 |
| jsgotangco | sushi is good | 03:07 |
| Laser_away | ajmitch: oh man, what I would have given for a steak | 03:07 |
| tseng | or even a full sized sushi-grade tuna filet | 03:07 |
| tseng | cooked rare | 03:07 |
| ajmitch | sushi & raw beef are a bit different | 03:07 |
| tseng | raw beef | 03:07 |
| tseng | not so much | 03:07 |
| imbrandon | tseng: only with lots of umm hell whats that green hot stuff | 03:07 |
| imbrandon | heh | 03:07 |
| tseng | imbrandon: wasabi | 03:07 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: wasabi | 03:07 |
| imbrandon | YEA | 03:08 |
| jsgotangco | Laser_away: at least we got to eat in a real brasserie | 03:08 |
| imbrandon | i love that stuff | 03:08 |
| tseng | its ok | 03:08 |
| tseng | it kills germs | 03:08 |
| Laser_away | jsgotangco: yeah | 03:08 |
| === ajmitch doubts he'll be at the next developer summit | ||
| === bddebian only eats meat, potatoes, bread, and ice cream ;-) | ||
| === tseng doubts he'll be at any future summit | ||
| Laser_away | fortunately my view of France wasn't totally ruined | 03:08 |
| imbrandon | and SLURPIEES | 03:08 |
| jsgotangco | imbrandon: have you tasted green peas deep fried in wasabi | 03:08 |
| imbrandon | jsgotangco: cant say i have | 03:08 |
| imbrandon | ugh phone | 03:08 |
| imbrandon | brb | 03:08 |
| ajmitch | jsgotangco: the ones we get tend to be fairly bland | 03:09 |
| Laser_away | jsgotangco: are they good, I think I've seen them in the store here? | 03:09 |
| jsgotangco | Laser_away: yeah just dont eat a lot of it | 03:09 |
| Laser_away | ah, ok | 03:09 |
| jsgotangco | it goes through your nostrils | 03:09 |
| jsgotangco | the feeling that is, not the pea | 03:09 |
| Laser_away | my uncle was in the Army for a while and was stationed in South Korea | 03:09 |
| Laser_away | he got a taste for that nasty cabbage stuff | 03:10 |
| Laser_away | can't think of the name | 03:10 |
| jsgotangco | its callled kimchi | 03:10 |
| tseng | cole slaw? | 03:10 |
| jsgotangco | its delicious! | 03:10 |
| Laser_away | yeah!! | 03:10 |
| Laser_away | when he came back it was all he would eat | 03:10 |
| Laser_away | but my grandpa wouldn't let him come over to his house cause he smelled so bad ;-) | 03:10 |
| jsgotangco | Laser_away: there's actually a kimchi museum in seoul, you can look it up at the web | 03:10 |
| jsgotangco | well kimchi is a way to increase the storage life of vegetables back then in the long winter | 03:11 |
| jsgotangco | they made is spicier to heat up the body as well | 03:11 |
| Laser_away | ok, I'm off on a hunt. I think it'll either be Jimmy John's or Jim Boy's | 03:11 |
| Laser_away | jsgotangco: good to know if I'm ever deserted in the middle of Korea ;-) | 03:12 |
| jsgotangco | asian food is generally way better compared to european imho | 03:12 |
| tseng | jsgotangco: yes | 03:13 |
| tseng | jsgotangco: god yes | 03:13 |
| zul_ | im a steak and potatoes kind of guy | 03:13 |
| tseng | i almost nearly killed myself in Spain | 03:13 |
| tseng | I could not get a fucking steak to save my life | 03:13 |
| tseng | or a hamburger | 03:13 |
| tseng | everything had mussels | 03:13 |
| zul_ | macdonalds? | 03:13 |
| jsgotangco | you get blood sausages or something as well | 03:13 |
| tseng | i asked a guy how to get to mcdonalds | 03:13 |
| tseng | no fucking se | 03:13 |
| ajmitch | hah, only time I had mussels recently was having dinner at mpt's place | 03:13 |
| tseng | ajmitch: if i never see another mussel again.. | 03:14 |
| tseng | the only thing on menus we could recognize most places was paella | 03:14 |
| tseng | rice, mussels, shitty prawn | 03:14 |
| tseng | i am spoiled for life by australian prawn | 03:14 |
| zul_ | heh every summer when we came back from kenya the first thing we do is head to a macdonalds | 03:14 |
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| tseng | zul_: mcd is inedible | 03:15 |
| ajmitch | hello Hobbsee | 03:15 |
| zul_ | tseng: its ok | 03:15 |
| === bddebian covers his virgin ears from tseng's swearing | ||
| tseng | zul_: i like burgers made of beef | 03:15 |
| bddebian | Heya Hobbsee | 03:15 |
| zul_ | hey Hobbsee | 03:15 |
| tseng | bddebian: oh, you've seen nothing | 03:15 |
| === Hobbsee waves to all | ||
| ajmitch | tseng: rather than playing pick-that-animal? | 03:15 |
| Hobbsee | yay for simple programming exercises as quizzes. | 03:15 |
| bddebian | tseng: ;-P | 03:15 |
| zul_ | tseng: so do i, but when you need grease you need grease | 03:15 |
| tseng | ajmitch: is it an animal? | 03:15 |
| imbrandon | [20:10] <jsgotangco> its callled kimchi <-- that stuff rocks | 03:15 |
| ajmitch | not entirely sure | 03:15 |
| tseng | ajmitch: vegitable oil in meltodextrin? | 03:16 |
| tseng | ajmitch: who knows. | 03:16 |
| tseng | all of the above is my guess | 03:16 |
| tseng | but very little came from a cow | 03:16 |
| ajmitch | I should get pizza tonight or something | 03:16 |
| tseng | you should have seen it | 03:16 |
| jsgotangco | Laser_away: i should send you a box of duck eggs soon :D | 03:16 |
| tseng | me, davyd, desrt trying to order a pizza in catalan | 03:16 |
| === bddebian eats no seafood whatsoever | ||
| ajmitch | heh | 03:16 |
| tseng | what a joke | 03:16 |
| ajmitch | you didn't have jordi along to translate? | 03:16 |
| tseng | no | 03:16 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 03:17 |
| tseng | people spoke enough spanish to talk to them | 03:17 |
| jsgotangco | bddebian: landlubber! | 03:17 |
| tseng | which was the path i tried | 03:17 |
| ajmitch | jsgotangco: he's obviously not asian | 03:17 |
| tseng | next time, I am not going more than 2 feet from Miguel | 03:17 |
| bddebian | jsgotangco: I don't eat anything that swims around it it's own shit all it's life ;-P | 03:17 |
| jsgotangco | haha | 03:17 |
| imbrandon | lol | 03:17 |
| jsgotangco | i guess you haven't tasted octopus or shark even | 03:17 |
| tseng | bddebian: pork? | 03:17 |
| ajmitch | jsgotangco: some of us have | 03:18 |
| tseng | man, spain did have great calamari | 03:18 |
| imbrandon | tseng: i was thinking the same thing | 03:18 |
| zul_ | zebra meat is pretty good | 03:18 |
| ajmitch | kangaroo meat is pretty interesting | 03:18 |
| jsgotangco | is it the same as horse? | 03:18 |
| tseng | lightly fried with some lemon | 03:18 |
| imbrandon | zebra is the same as horse meat isnt it | 03:18 |
| bddebian | tseng: pork is good | 03:18 |
| tseng | of course it is | 03:18 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee can tell you all about eating kangaroo.. | 03:18 |
| tseng | but they life in their own dirt | 03:18 |
| bddebian | "pigs are filthy animals" | 03:19 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: so can you | 03:19 |
| bddebian | tseng: They don't breath it :-) | 03:19 |
| tseng | bddebian: no, they eat it | 03:19 |
| imbrandon | bddebian: nah they just eat it | 03:19 |
| bddebian | No they don't | 03:19 |
| imbrandon | yea they do , right along with the slop | 03:19 |
| tseng | have you seen the movie Snatch? | 03:19 |
| tseng | like dags? | 03:20 |
| ajmitch | yeah | 03:20 |
| bddebian | Uhm, my neighbors raised pigs | 03:20 |
| imbrandon | i'm sorry | 03:20 |
| tseng | they eat disgusting things | 03:20 |
| jsgotangco | yeah the key to raising pigs is to make sure their den is always clean | 03:21 |
| jsgotangco | and always have clean water too | 03:21 |
| bddebian | So do chickens if given the chance | 03:21 |
| bddebian | In fact there are no nastier creatures than chickens | 03:21 |
| tseng | I like dags. | 03:21 |
| jsgotangco | ive seen chicks kill each other and peck entrails | 03:21 |
| tseng | yum | 03:22 |
| bddebian | Oh yeah, if Chickens taste blood, they go nuts | 03:22 |
| tseng | at least it isnt just me that things international food blows | 03:23 |
| tseng | thinks | 03:24 |
| tseng | America wins again | 03:24 |
| imbrandon | lol | 03:24 |
| imbrandon | some international food is good, special after its been "american ized" hehe | 03:25 |
| ajmitch | americans.. | 03:25 |
| imbrandon | kimchi , mexian food ( all the same ingrediants just presented diffrent ) | 03:26 |
| jsgotangco | kimchi got americanized? | 03:26 |
| imbrandon | lots of other stuff i cant think of right now | 03:26 |
| bddebian | Some real mexican food is frightening | 03:26 |
| ajmitch | jsgotangco: how else could they eat it? | 03:26 |
| jsgotangco | pig brain taco | 03:27 |
| imbrandon | jsgotangco: most here prepare it a bit diffrent than the koreans i have seen prepare it | 03:27 |
| bddebian | I had some chicken thing in Mexico city that I swear they just threw the entire chicken in blender and stuck it on a tortilla | 03:27 |
| imbrandon | bddebian: hahaha probably | 03:27 |
| jsgotangco | when i was in seoul, the local Golden Arches had Bulgogi burger with kimchi siding | 03:27 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 03:28 |
| bddebian | I would definetly starve to death in an Asian country | 03:28 |
| imbrandon | korean kimchi is alot spicier from what ive seen | 03:28 |
| bddebian | Too many vegetables and seafood | 03:28 |
| ajmitch | poor bddebian | 03:28 |
| jsgotangco | that's why we probably live longer | 03:28 |
| jsgotangco | ;) | 03:28 |
| imbrandon | heh | 03:29 |
| jsgotangco | bddebian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balut | 03:29 |
| bddebian | jsgotangco: Aye :-) | 03:29 |
| imbrandon | native american food is good to ( well the way myt wife makes it ) , alot like mexian food | 03:29 |
| imbrandon | s/myt/my | 03:29 |
| welshbyte | i used to pretty fussy about food.. these days i eat just about anything put in front of me except any kind of curry | 03:30 |
| bddebian | OK, I have like 4 or 5 packages now that are outdated in Debian too :'-( | 03:31 |
| jsgotangco | curry is ok it just seeps in your pores if you have too much of it | 03:31 |
| welshbyte | makes me hurl :) | 03:32 |
| LaserJock | oh man guys, I'm trying to eat here ;-) | 03:32 |
| bddebian | haha | 03:32 |
| imbrandon | lol | 03:32 |
| === ajmitch was thinking about getting curry for lunch | ||
| bddebian | ack | 03:33 |
| welshbyte | heh | 03:33 |
| welshbyte | "can i get some food in my additives please?" | 03:34 |
| LaserJock | I've got an italian sub and chips right now | 03:34 |
| welshbyte | mmm | 03:34 |
| === ajmitch still hasn't eaten today | ||
| imbrandon | sounds good, with some oil and vinigar dressing to go on it | 03:34 |
| LaserJock | yep | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | bad ajmitch | 03:35 |
| LaserJock | had smoked salmon and havarti cheese pizza for lunch | 03:35 |
| LaserJock | my wife thought it would be fun | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: you're supposed to eat, you know! | 03:35 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: can't I just say it's your fault? | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: nope | 03:35 |
| === bddebian whips up a Prime Rib milkshake ;-P | ||
| ajmitch | darn | 03:35 |
| imbrandon | heh your makin me hungery now, mmmm pasta sounds good tonight | 03:35 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: No, because it's yours | 03:35 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: that's beside the point | 03:35 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: dude, that reminds me | 03:35 |
| welshbyte | oh great, 2:35am and i'm hankering for steak | 03:36 |
| LaserJock | the undergrad in my lab found a forum post of worst cooking ideas | 03:36 |
| imbrandon | lol | 03:36 |
| LaserJock | the worst I saw was a guy decided to make a burrito smoothie | 03:36 |
| ajmitch | uh oh | 03:36 |
| LaserJock | but it came out kinda thick | 03:36 |
| imbrandon | hahahahahahahahah | 03:36 |
| ajmitch | a bit lumpy? | 03:36 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: D00d, that is nasty :) | 03:36 |
| LaserJock | so he looked around for something Mexican to thin it out | 03:36 |
| LaserJock | so he found some tequila | 03:37 |
| imbrandon | LOL | 03:37 |
| imbrandon | sour cream | 03:37 |
| ajmitch | that'd be one tasty drink | 03:37 |
| LaserJock | so it became a burrito and tequila smoothie | 03:37 |
| bddebian | Oh man | 03:37 |
| bddebian | I had beer on corn flakes in college once | 03:37 |
| bddebian | Only things I had in the apartment | 03:38 |
| imbrandon | roflmao | 03:38 |
| ajmitch | sick man | 03:38 |
| bddebian | It was pretty nasty | 03:38 |
| ajmitch | I'm surprised you still had beer left | 03:38 |
| LaserJock | I knew a guy in college who was previously in the Army | 03:38 |
| LaserJock | and developed a Mt. Dew in cereal habit | 03:38 |
| bddebian | eww | 03:38 |
| imbrandon | ahhh now THAT sounds good ;) | 03:39 |
| jsgotangco | ugghh | 03:39 |
| StevenK | LaserJock: Ewwwwww | 03:39 |
| LaserJock | that was for you imbrandon ;-) | 03:39 |
| === ajmitch revises what he should do for lunch | ||
| imbrandon | mt dew in fruity pebbles ;) | 03:39 |
| ajmitch | jsgotangco: mt dew & mentos? | 03:39 |
| bddebian | Oh yeah, you definetly need more sugar with your Mt. Dew :-) | 03:39 |
| imbrandon | lol | 03:39 |
| jsgotangco | ajmitch: they explode | 03:39 |
| ajmitch | jsgotangco: it'd be fun though | 03:39 |
| bddebian | Even though Mt. Dew is the nectar of the Gods ;-P | 03:39 |
| imbrandon | http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/mt_dew.jpg | 03:40 |
| ajmitch | not like you haven't seen enough of them | 03:40 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: very very wrong | 03:40 |
| zul_ | heh...we get crippled mt dew | 03:40 |
| jsgotangco | what a waste of fridge space | 03:40 |
| bddebian | imbrandon: Nice :-) | 03:40 |
| ajmitch | decaf mt dew? | 03:40 |
| imbrandon | crippled mt dew ? | 03:40 |
| zul_ | yeah... | 03:40 |
| Yagisan | G'day all | 03:40 |
| imbrandon | heya Yagisan | 03:40 |
| ajmitch | hello Yagisan | 03:40 |
| LaserJock | no way!!! | 03:40 |
| bddebian | Decaf Mt. Dew? WTF?? | 03:41 |
| LaserJock | sorry, that was to zul_, not Yagisan | 03:41 |
| ajmitch | zul_: that just takes away the whole reason for the drink | 03:41 |
| zul_ | ajmitch: yep...thats why i dont drink it | 03:41 |
| imbrandon | [20:40] <jsgotangco> what a waste of fridge space <-- yea i still have room at the bottom for more huh ? | 03:41 |
| bddebian | That's like non-alcoholic beer, or decaf coffee | 03:41 |
| StevenK | As a matter of fact, Australian Mountain Dew doesn't have caffeine. | 03:41 |
| jsgotangco | imbrandon: put lots of cup noodles heh | 03:41 |
| LaserJock | I could sorta see diet mt dew cause you drink so much | 03:41 |
| imbrandon | StevenK: WOW | 03:41 |
| StevenK | So they doubled the amount of sugar. | 03:41 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: that's worrying | 03:41 |
| ajmitch | I'm sure that it has caffeine in NZ | 03:42 |
| Yagisan | can anyone think of an opensource alternative to FMOD. I'm running a argument to get it dropped from some code that I'd like to see in Ubuntu | 03:42 |
| jsgotangco | there was a local craze here a decade ago mixing raw egg with rootbeer | 03:42 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: Does it have a slightly bitter aftertaste? | 03:42 |
| LaserJock | jsgotangco: oh yeah, mt dew + ramen!!!! | 03:42 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: I don't know, I don't drink it | 03:42 |
| bddebian | So you don't stay up but your teeth rot faster? | 03:42 |
| StevenK | Heh | 03:42 |
| Yagisan | aussie mt dew is nice :) | 03:42 |
| StevenK | Yagisan: I prefered the Mountain Dew I drank in Finland. | 03:42 |
| imbrandon | + cafeine is good | 03:43 |
| Yagisan | StevenK, I eat suger from the pack - sweet is nice | 03:43 |
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| bddebian | I prefer Mt. Dew + vodka or so :-) | 03:43 |
| jsgotangco | unprocessed 7-11 slurpee | 03:43 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 03:43 |
| jsgotangco | pure sugar | 03:43 |
| LaserJock | well, I'm down to pretty much just diet soda because of my teeth :( | 03:43 |
| welshbyte | Yagisan: umm, you mean something like gstreamer? | 03:43 |
| imbrandon | bddebian: mt dew and everclear is GOOOOOOOD | 03:43 |
| imbrandon | everclear and pineapple juice is better ;) | 03:44 |
| Yagisan | welshbyte, something that supports all those useless formats no one uses, and is on *NIx, OSX and Win32 | 03:44 |
| === Yagisan checks gstreamer | ||
| welshbyte | if no one uses them, what's the point? :) | 03:45 |
| jsgotangco | what is everclear? | 03:45 |
| imbrandon | jsgotangco: 190 proof grain liquor | 03:45 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: sounds dangerous | 03:45 |
| jsgotangco | ahh ethanol | 03:45 |
| Yagisan | welshbyte, I tried that argument - it's not getting far - that's why I popped in to see my mates here | 03:45 |
| LaserJock | jsgotangco: dude, I don't even drink and I know what everclear is ;-) | 03:45 |
| jsgotangco | 190 proof? isnt that like fuel quality? | 03:46 |
| ajmitch | jsgotangco: ethanol with a touch of flavouring & other additives | 03:46 |
| LaserJock | I've got some 200 proof in the lab ;-) | 03:46 |
| imbrandon | jsgotangco: pretty much, we drove a motocycle on it one time for a few miles, but the spark plugs needed replaced after that | 03:46 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: that's just not as tasty | 03:46 |
| welshbyte | Yagisan: fair enough, well i'm no expert so maybe someone with more experience can help after they've finished discussing beverages ;) | 03:46 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: I doubt it, and you can only get it in small quantities | 03:46 |
| jsgotangco | youll die drinking it straight right? | 03:47 |
| imbrandon | LaserJock: 200 proof == 100% hehe | 03:47 |
| LaserJock | imbrandon: exactly | 03:47 |
| LaserJock | we have to do special purchasing to get it | 03:47 |
| bddebian | Oh Everclean, nice | 03:47 |
| imbrandon | jsgotangco: everclear ? nah you can drink it streight but it taste nasty by its self | 03:47 |
| LaserJock | because normal research ethanol they but nasty tasting additives so grad students won't drink it ;-) | 03:47 |
| bddebian | Yeah, it burns like hell | 03:47 |
| jsgotangco | ahh so you make cocktails with it | 03:47 |
| imbrandon | jsgotangco: yea normaly 1oz to a drink 8oz drink ;) | 03:48 |
| imbrandon | after 3 or 4 you forget your name or why you were drinking ;) | 03:48 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: shocking, as if grad students would ever drink it ;) | 03:49 |
| jsgotangco | hmm they are good for mountain treks then | 03:49 |
| jsgotangco | you use some to cook, then use a part to mix with cocktails | 03:49 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: no, they do mt. dew and ramen instead | 03:49 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 03:49 |
| imbrandon | n the United States, Everclear is a brand of grain alcohol (ethanol), available at concentrations of 95% alcohol (190 proof) and 75.5% (151 proof) [1] . By contrast, hard liquors such as rum and vodka generally contain 40% alcohol (80 proof). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everclear_(alcohol) | 03:50 |
| imbrandon | i dident know they made the 151 proof kind , hehe | 03:51 |
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| jsgotangco | its this like moonshine? | 03:51 |
| bddebian | jsgotangco: Pretty much yes | 03:51 |
| imbrandon | stronger normaly but same taste | 03:51 |
| LaserJock | well, more than moonshine | 03:51 |
| LaserJock | everclear is like research grade ethanol | 03:51 |
| imbrandon | moonshine is normaly about 75-80% | 03:52 |
| LaserJock | we use 95% for most research | 03:52 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 03:52 |
| imbrandon | its still good with mt dew ;) one shot per glass ;) | 03:53 |
| LaserJock | bah | 03:53 |
| LaserJock | I think that destroys the purity of the mt. dew :-) | 03:54 |
| imbrandon | heheh | 03:55 |
| LaserJock | I don't mix my mt dew with anything ;-) | 03:55 |
| imbrandon | mt dew should be the offical ubuntu drink ;) | 03:55 |
| bddebian | heh | 03:55 |
| bddebian | UbuntDew | 03:55 |
| StevenK | LaserJock: What sort of research uses 95% alchol? | 03:55 |
| imbrandon | lol | 03:56 |
| Hobbsee | nooo! coke! | 03:56 |
| StevenK | "I wonder how long it will take us to get pissed today" ? | 03:56 |
| LaserJock | I'm a chemist | 03:56 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee: more dev's and ppl in general drink mt dew ( everywhere but mexico ) heheh | 03:56 |
| StevenK | My question still stands. ;-P | 03:56 |
| bddebian | StevenK: Research into getting drunk ;-P | 03:56 |
| === StevenK high fives bddebian. | ||
| === Hobbsee will avoid getting drunk, thanks :P | ||
| LaserJock | ethanol is a really good solvent | 03:56 |
| Hobbsee | can you imagine a drunk hobbsee? | 03:56 |
| LaserJock | that's why it's not good for your body | 03:57 |
| imbrandon | LaserJock: at UNR i wouldent be suprised ;) | 03:57 |
| bddebian | Hobbsee: Not with any weapons nearby ;-) | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | you kinda end up dissolving your body in a way | 03:57 |
| imbrandon | or pointy sticks | 03:57 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 03:57 |
| StevenK | My father told me once that I was silly enough sober, and he never wanted to see me drunk. | 03:57 |
| imbrandon | LaserJock: dosent it work becouse its a poison ( all liquors ) | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | anyway, we use ethanol in my lab as a general purpose solvent and for cleaning optics | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | kinda yeah | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | we use a lot of methanol to (wood alchol) | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | it'll make you go blind | 03:58 |
| imbrandon | heh | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | so don't drink that | 03:58 |
| jsgotangco | im not going to doubt a chemist | 03:58 |
| jsgotangco | ;) | 03:59 |
| Yagisan | I see. after someone pukes after drinking it, you disolve the evidience with what's left over ;) | 03:59 |
| LaserJock | attacks your optical nerves or something | 03:59 |
| StevenK | Yagisan: Bwahaha | 03:59 |
| LaserJock | eewww | 03:59 |
| imbrandon | heh | 04:00 |
| LaserJock | I just never did understand the point of drinking alchol when such nice things a mt dew and pepsi existed | 04:00 |
| imbrandon | s/pepsi/more\ mt\ dew/g | 04:00 |
| LaserJock | whatever | 04:00 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 04:00 |
| StevenK | LaserJock: But Pepsi is *vile*. | 04:00 |
| jsgotangco | we have a local concoction here called royal rumble, its fanta orange with rhum nasty stuff | 04:00 |
| bddebian | ugh | 04:00 |
| LaserJock | pepsi is one of God's greatest gifts to humanity | 04:00 |
| === StevenK kills LaserJock. | ||
| LaserJock | sorry StevenK, it's a know fact | 04:01 |
| LaserJock | smart people drink pepsi | 04:01 |
| LaserJock | ;-) | 04:01 |
| === TheMuso prefers ginger beer if it has to be any softdrink. | ||
| StevenK | Not in this house, it isn't. | 04:01 |
| imbrandon | jsgotangco: we drink that here too, and another called "float your boat" something with root beer and captian morgan ( spice rum ) , its GOOOD too | 04:01 |
| === Hobbsee waves to TheMuso | ||
| TheMuso | Hey Hobbsee. | 04:01 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: i believe that killing is against the CoC :P | 04:01 |
| TheMuso | How is your day? | 04:01 |
| bddebian | Shit, I had prismstumbler building now it doesn't :-( | 04:01 |
| LaserJock | they thing for me is that all the alchoholic drinks try to be something else | 04:02 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: Hrm. | 04:02 |
| LaserJock | my friend was like "Kahlua + milk is like chocolate milk" | 04:02 |
| LaserJock | and I'm like, " | 04:02 |
| LaserJock | "why not just drink chocolate milk?" | 04:02 |
| imbrandon | no drunkie after a few ;) | 04:02 |
| Yagisan | speaking of Gnger Beer, the Bundaberg stuff is good (real giner) buy the imitation stuff tastes like crap | 04:03 |
| LaserJock | hmm, not time for that, I"ve got Quantum Mechanics to study ;-) | 04:03 |
| TheMuso | Yagisan: Saxby's is nice too. | 04:03 |
| StevenK | Quantum mechanics hurts my head. | 04:03 |
| === Yagisan will learn to type one day. Today is not that day however | ||
| LaserJock | StevenK: yes, it hurt mine the first few times as well | 04:04 |
| LaserJock | you just have to stick with it ;-) | 04:04 |
| Hobbsee | pepsi is vile though. diet pepsi, doubly so. | 04:04 |
| imbrandon | yea so is coke though too | 04:04 |
| bddebian | Diet anything is the work of Satan | 04:04 |
| imbrandon | mt dew > * | 04:04 |
| TheMuso | Go the soda water with cordial, or ginger beer I say! | 04:05 |
| jsgotangco | ugghh i hate ginger beer | 04:05 |
| imbrandon | man you all are gonna make me put a poll up for ubuntu devs/users on my blog about soda hehehe | 04:05 |
| TheMuso | IT doesn't bloat you nearly as much as soft drink like coke/pepsi | 04:05 |
| === StevenK hasn't tried soda water with cordial. | ||
| Yagisan | jsgotangco, you probally never had a real one then | 04:05 |
| LaserJock | pepsi > mt dew > dr pepper > everything else on the planet | 04:05 |
| === StevenK usually drinks water, actually. | ||
| TheMuso | Soda water with lime/lemon cordial/lemon barley water is beautiful, especially in summer. | 04:06 |
| jsgotangco | Yagisan: i had the one by blue tongue, it doesn't really jive welll with me but that's the only one i got | 04:06 |
| TheMuso | StevenK: So do I. | 04:06 |
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| LaserJock | yikes, now there's 2 | 04:06 |
| StevenK | Heh | 04:06 |
| imbrandon | lol | 04:06 |
| Hobbsee_ | two? | 04:06 |
| TheMuso | hah | 04:06 |
| imbrandon | two you | 04:06 |
| Yagisan | jsgotangco, if I see you in Aus, remind me, and I'll get you a real one | 04:06 |
| Hobbsee_ | what'd i miss? | 04:06 |
| LaserJock | now we are really in for a beating | 04:06 |
| StevenK | We're partiarly surrounded! | 04:06 |
| jsgotangco | i'll be in LCA | 04:07 |
| LaserJock | mhm | 04:07 |
| === Hobbsee_ gets out her long pointy stick | ||
| === Yagisan usually drinks tea (english) or japanese tea | ||
| LaserJock | I just haven't warmed up to tea :-) | 04:07 |
| imbrandon | indian ( native american ) tea is great, best tea i've ever had | 04:07 |
| jsgotangco | the ones we have here now are gree tea ice filtered | 04:07 |
| TheMuso | Right. Lets try again to get a cat out of our yard that got stuck there two days ago. :) | 04:08 |
| TheMuso | bbs | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | hhe | 04:08 |
| imbrandon | heh | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | yay, a prac on how to write html. | 04:08 |
| StevenK | Hah | 04:08 |
| StevenK | I got one of them two weeks ago. | 04:08 |
| imbrandon | <html>junk</html> | 04:08 |
| Yagisan | I did an exam over the internet a few days ago o_O | 04:09 |
| === LaserJock wonders what a computer science exame would look like | ||
| LaserJock | seems odd to me | 04:09 |
| bddebian | <H1>Bigger Junk</H1> | 04:09 |
| === Hobbsee is hiding against one of the walls of one of the prac labs. | ||
| LaserJock | I'd probably flunk | 04:09 |
| Hobbsee | next to....a powerpoint :D | 04:09 |
| Hobbsee | come on.... | 04:09 |
| Hobbsee | !ping | 04:09 |
| jsgotangco | essay type lol | 04:09 |
| ubotu | pong | 04:09 |
| Yagisan | I thought I had died and gone to heaven | 04:10 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: if it's anything like the last quiz...very easy | 04:10 |
| StevenK | Yagisan: There is no latency in heaven. | 04:10 |
| imbrandon | heh | 04:10 |
| imbrandon | StevenK: i dunno the voyager1 is pretty close to what some would call heaven and an icmp ping takes 28+ hours to reply ;) | 04:11 |
| Yagisan | StevenK, it was wonderful. It like one big open-book exam | 04:11 |
| StevenK | Heh | 04:11 |
| Yagisan | StevenK, I'm looking forward to the next 2 exams too :) (I shall try and do it faster next time) | 04:13 |
| LaserJock | has anybody done a presentation via Impress on an Ubuntu laptop? | 04:20 |
| LaserJock | I've always used Powerpoint and Windows and I'd like to not have any suprises | 04:21 |
| jsgotangco | sure | 04:21 |
| jsgotangco | just make sure your video can actually be used with a projector | 04:22 |
| jsgotangco | some laptops can't do it | 04:22 |
| LaserJock | hmm, if it works with Windows should it? | 04:22 |
| jsgotangco | unless you reboot with the projector attached | 04:22 |
| jsgotangco | well its a video card issue | 04:22 |
| LaserJock | I've done it before with Windows | 04:22 |
| LaserJock | but I'd like to do it in Ubuntu | 04:23 |
| jsgotangco | who hasn't heh | 04:23 |
| LaserJock | since this will be at an Ubuntu conference | 04:23 |
| jsgotangco | its best to try it with a projector before the event | 04:23 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 04:23 |
| LaserJock | I should be able to get there early | 04:23 |
| jsgotangco | because mine doesn't just work if i plug in the projector | 04:24 |
| jsgotangco | unless i reboot | 04:24 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 04:25 |
| StevenK | jsgotangco: What laptop? | 04:25 |
| jsgotangco | Tecra M2 with Nvidia | 04:25 |
| StevenK | Free or restricted drivers? | 04:26 |
| jsgotangco | both doesn't work | 04:26 |
| StevenK | Interesting. | 04:26 |
| jsgotangco | yep mjg59 said its upstream | 04:26 |
| jsgotangco | i met on of the xandros people before with the same laptop and it frustrates him as well | 04:26 |
| StevenK | My Sony Vaio only spoke to a projector if I plugged it before booting. | 04:27 |
| LaserJock | hehe, I just crashed bug buddy ;-) | 04:27 |
| StevenK | LaserJock: I wonder if it respawns itself to report that bug. | 04:27 |
| LaserJock | kinda | 04:27 |
| jsgotangco | StevenK: you still get both displays? | 04:28 |
| LaserJock | it got a few things and then some force quits | 04:28 |
| StevenK | jsgotangco: From what I recall, yes. | 04:28 |
| jsgotangco | mine only displays on the projector and the lcd is blank | 04:28 |
| StevenK | jsgotangco: The Vaio in question died, and I bought an X40. | 04:28 |
| jsgotangco | it just works in X40 right? | 04:28 |
| === StevenK nods. | ||
| StevenK | I haven't checked in Ubuntu, but I made it work under Debian. | 04:29 |
| jsgotangco | yeah its probably the most compatible unit you can find for linux generally | 04:29 |
| StevenK | Most of IBM laptops just work. | 04:29 |
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| LaserJock | jsgotangco: how many slides do you do roughly for a 1 hr presentation? | 04:35 |
| jsgotangco | 1 hour that;s a long time | 04:36 |
| jsgotangco | depends on your discussion | 04:36 |
| jsgotangco | the key is not to put everything on a slide | 04:36 |
| imbrandon | please tell me this is a joke https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/56125 | 04:36 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 56125 in apt "doesnt look like a cow" [Unknown,Unconfirmed] | 04:36 |
| jsgotangco | we actually have a cow in apt | 04:36 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: no, it's quite a serious bug | 04:36 |
| bddebian | apt has super cow powers | 04:36 |
| jsgotangco | but gentoo whips our arse | 04:36 |
| bddebian | Fsck Gentoo | 04:37 |
| jsgotangco | in the cow department | 04:37 |
| LaserJock | yeah, larry is awesome ;-) | 04:37 |
| jsgotangco | its worth confirming as a wishlist =) | 04:38 |
| === StevenK prefers what aptitude does. | ||
| imbrandon | brandon@voyager:~$ aptitude moo | 04:39 |
| imbrandon | There are no Easter Eggs in this program. | 04:39 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 04:39 |
| jsgotangco | wonder if smartpm has one | 04:39 |
| jsgotangco | :D | 04:39 |
| LaserJock | jsgotangco: mind taking a look at http://chem.unr.edu/~mantha/ubuntu/ubucon.odp and seeing if it looks retarded or not? | 04:39 |
| jsgotangco | ok | 04:40 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: Add a -v | 04:40 |
| jsgotangco | im honored to help a FOSS superstar like LaserJock | 04:40 |
| LaserJock | lol | 04:40 |
| LaserJock | whatever | 04:40 |
| imbrandon | StevenK: hahaha | 04:40 |
| imbrandon | brandon@voyager:~$ aptitude -v moo | 04:40 |
| imbrandon | There really are no Easter Eggs in this program. | 04:40 |
| jsgotangco | haha | 04:41 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: keep adding more -v's | 04:41 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: Keep adding -v | 04:41 |
| === StevenK high fives Hobbsee. | ||
| jsgotangco | bwahahaha | 04:41 |
| LaserJock | oh man, we are geeks | 04:41 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 04:41 |
| imbrandon | hahahahahaha | 04:41 |
| jsgotangco | hahahahaa | 04:41 |
| imbrandon | too cool | 04:41 |
| StevenK | steven@liquified:~% for i in "" -v -vv -vvv -vvvv -vvvvv -vvvvvv ; do aptitude $i moo ; done | 04:41 |
| jsgotangco | wth is that? | 04:41 |
| StevenK | .... | 04:41 |
| ajmitch | too often projectors are an issue - we had quite a few problems at LCA this year | 04:42 |
| === Hobbsee highfives StevenK :) | ||
| imbrandon | brandon@voyager:~$ aptitude -vvvvvv moo | 04:42 |
| StevenK | jsgotangco: Add another -v | 04:42 |
| imbrandon | What is it? It's an elephant being eaten by a snake, of course. | 04:42 |
| jsgotangco | an elephant eaten by a snake | 04:42 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 04:42 |
| imbrandon | someone had too much time on their hands | 04:43 |
| Yagisan | nice :) | 04:43 |
| === StevenK wonders if he can compress his for loop. | ||
| Yagisan | people are looking at me odd because i laughed at that | 04:43 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: dont remind me of the assignment i'm supposed to be writing | 04:43 |
| imbrandon | haha | 04:43 |
| jsgotangco | LaserJock: i guess the best presentation on inviting people to participate in Ubuntu is share your experiences as well | 04:43 |
| jsgotangco | LaserJock: the slides are ok, but adding a personal touch makes wonders | 04:44 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee, I've an assignment due tommorow. I should start it today | 04:44 |
| === StevenK remembers the first time he joined -motu | ||
| jsgotangco | stuff that people don't normally read on the websites | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | hah | 04:44 |
| LaserJock | jsgotangco: yeah, I kinda planned on a doing a little more with the MOTU part and a little about why I was talking in the first place | 04:44 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: what happened then? | 04:44 |
| jsgotangco | add pictures of yourself during paris | 04:44 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: scary place? | 04:45 |
| jsgotangco | to make things interesting | 04:45 |
| StevenK | Oh, I didn't think people were interested. :-) | 04:45 |
| LaserJock | hehe, yeah | 04:45 |
| StevenK | Um, ajmitch and I talked for a while, and I started doing universe merges. | 04:45 |
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| jsgotangco | that we're not all about doing gdb but talkign about moonshine and ethanol as well | 04:45 |
| StevenK | And easter eggs. | 04:45 |
| jsgotangco | a lot of slides in guadec focused on people having fun | 04:46 |
| Yagisan | I think I first came here *after* i turned up unannounced at UDU | 04:46 |
| === ajmitch can't remember talking to StevenK | ||
| ajmitch | but that's no surprise | 04:46 |
| ajmitch | irc is one long blur | 04:46 |
| jsgotangco | LaserJock: like eating raw beef | 04:46 |
| StevenK | "IRC is just one long line of text" | 04:46 |
| LaserJock | hehe, I think the first time I came to -motu bddebian and bmonty were hard at work getting Breezy out the door | 04:46 |
| Hobbsee | nwo come on....it's thursday lunch time....where are the freaking tutes???????????????? | 04:47 |
| Hobbsee | it's surely not *that* hard to put them up more than 4 days before they're due! | 04:47 |
| StevenK | That's the challenge. | 04:47 |
| StevenK | You need to find them and then do them. | 04:47 |
| Hobbsee | my uni is bloody incompetent. | 04:47 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: that's the way of university life | 04:48 |
| StevenK | It's a feature. | 04:48 |
| LaserJock | jsgotangco: you don't think the logos are weird? I kinda wanted to give it a community feel | 04:48 |
| ajmitch | just like launchpad is one big collection of features | 04:48 |
| jsgotangco | well | 04:48 |
| Hobbsee | hah | 04:48 |
| jsgotangco | LaserJock: let's just say art isnt your biggest strength, but then again, clean slides are much easier on the eyes for the audience instead of thiking of adding palettes | 04:49 |
| jsgotangco | ;D | 04:49 |
| LaserJock | doh | 04:49 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Pshaw, I'm never hard at work ;-P | 04:49 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 04:49 |
| === ajmitch refrains from commenting | ||
| jsgotangco | because when you pipe your laptop to a projector, the palette will look different | 04:49 |
| bddebian | Yeah, yeah, I know ajmitch | 04:50 |
| LaserJock | well, I'm used to science presentations where you get a white background, black text, and equations | 04:50 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 04:50 |
| LaserJock | I saw a few presentations on the wiki but they seemed hard to read | 04:50 |
| jsgotangco | also make sure your final slides have all formats | 04:50 |
| jsgotangco | odp, ppt, pdf | 04:50 |
| jsgotangco | just in case you are forced to use another guy's laptop | 04:51 |
| LaserJock | mmm, good point | 04:51 |
| LaserJock | I was going to do dop and ppt | 04:51 |
| LaserJock | odp | 04:51 |
| jsgotangco | dont forget ppt | 04:51 |
| LaserJock | but pdf is good too | 04:51 |
| LaserJock | I"m not used to being able to make pdf's so easy ;-) | 04:51 |
| jsgotangco | i know its strange to use it on a FOSS conference but things happen | 04:51 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I know that about conferences | 04:52 |
| jsgotangco | when i was in seoul, i couldn't use my laptop we had to use one running windows that didnt have office | 04:52 |
| jsgotangco | but had acrobat reader | 04:52 |
| jsgotangco | good thing i made a pdf | 04:52 |
| ajmitch | yes, never rely on being able to use your own laptop | 04:53 |
| LaserJock | well, I'm used to having to print out transparencies | 04:54 |
| LaserJock | there's nothing like a good wet-erase talk by a nobel prize winner ;-) | 04:54 |
| jsgotangco | well thats the extreme option | 04:55 |
| jsgotangco | but generally having the 3 formats on had on a keyfob will work | 04:55 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: when are you getting your nobel prize? | 04:56 |
| LaserJock | years from now | 04:56 |
| LaserJock | most Nobel prizes get awarded like 20 years after the work has been done | 04:56 |
| ajmitch | at least we can say that we knew you when you were slacking off with ubuntu :) | 04:56 |
| LaserJock | so I've got a little while to wait ;-) | 04:56 |
| bddebian | hehe | 04:56 |
| LaserJock | well, nobel prizes are cool, but you sure don't get much money anymore | 04:57 |
| LaserJock | you get USD$1 million | 04:57 |
| LaserJock | but if more than one person gets the prize (which happens a lot) you have to split it | 04:57 |
| jsgotangco | at least you get to be on the history books | 04:58 |
| ajmitch | the money probably isn't meant to be the main benefit now | 04:58 |
| LaserJock | yes, that's the real fun | 04:58 |
| === TheMuso returns | ||
| LaserJock | and you get to go around giving presentations with wet-erase markers | 04:58 |
| === bddebian turns his badge in to ajmitch | ||
| LaserJock | and everybody loves it | 04:58 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: ? | 04:58 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: I'm getting my arse kicked by a stupid little package | 05:00 |
| ajmitch | right | 05:00 |
| bddebian | Should configure be called before or after patch | 05:00 |
| ajmitch | so fix the package | 05:00 |
| ajmitch | depends what you're patching - generally after | 05:00 |
| bddebian | Thx | 05:00 |
| ajmitch | up to you, really | 05:00 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: yay :) | 05:02 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: di dyou succeed? | 05:02 |
| === Hobbsee pinches the easy merges. | ||
| bddebian | You mean you don't have them all done YET? ;-P | 05:03 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: leave some for the rest of us poor people who struggle along with stuff | 05:03 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 05:03 |
| bddebian | Yeah, I haven't done any yet.. :-) | 05:03 |
| Hobbsee | hah | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | get going, bddebian | 05:05 |
| bddebian | Nah, I'm useless | 05:05 |
| LaserJock | if I ever get to do MOTU work again I'll want some decent merges to do ;-) | 05:05 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: weren't you told that it's bad to lie? | 05:05 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: What am I lying about? :-) | 05:06 |
| Hobbsee | yay. something broke on LP | 05:06 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: hmmm, how about doing a MOTU School session? or are you busy with uni stuff? | 05:06 |
| ajmitch | wow, there's a surprise | 05:06 |
| Hobbsee | !ping | 05:06 |
| ubotu | pong | 05:06 |
| ajmitch | yes, teach us, Hobbsee | 05:06 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: busy with uni stuff, and i wouldnt make a good teacher with that sort of stuff | 05:06 |
| === Hobbsee couldnt teach ajmitch anything. | ||
| bddebian | w00t, frickin' A | 05:07 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: well you don't have to teach ajmitch, just people like me | 05:07 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: you're funny | 05:07 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 05:07 |
| LaserJock | but if your'e busy I'll let you go, this time | 05:07 |
| Hobbsee | yay. LP really did break. | 05:08 |
| LaserJock | I need somebody to teach me CDBS | 05:08 |
| bddebian | Don't we all? ;-P | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: i am rather, at the moment. what would it be on? | 05:08 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: good luck finding someone to teach that | 05:08 |
| welshbyte | i don't even know what CDBS stands for :/ | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | hah | 05:08 |
| bddebian | Common Debian Build System | 05:08 |
| bddebian | I think | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: sure i cant teach yada? | 05:09 |
| welshbyte | now i do :) | 05:09 |
| === Hobbsee ducks | ||
| ajmitch | LaserJock: hobbsee has patched cdbs in the past, get her to teach it | 05:09 |
| === Hobbsee runs away very quickly | ||
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: you merged it. | 05:09 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: that was my point ;-) | 05:09 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: you should do it. | 05:09 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: never | 05:09 |
| === Hobbsee has crappy timezones. | ||
| ajmitch | do you see any uploads by me? | 05:09 |
| LaserJock | actually, we need crappy timezones | 05:09 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: nope. i'll teach yada :P | 05:09 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: that shall be an easy lesson | 05:09 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: true, no | 05:09 |
| Hobbsee | didnt look | 05:10 |
| ajmitch | do you see any packages of mine that actually use cdbs? | 05:10 |
| Hobbsee | havent looked at them either | 05:10 |
| === bddebian builds zope with CDBS ;-P | ||
| === welshbyte makes a note to not use "will you teach me CDBS?" as a pickup line next time he's at a bar | ||
| ajmitch | you do that, bddebian | 05:10 |
| bddebian | welshbyte: ;-) | 05:10 |
| ajmitch | welshbyte: depends on what sort of bar it is | 05:11 |
| Hobbsee | hah | 05:11 |
| welshbyte | hehe | 05:11 |
| LaserJock | it might work at a Debian bar | 05:12 |
| welshbyte | unfortunately there aren't any bars in this city where that line would work :( | 05:12 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: we have our LUG meetings in a bar | 05:12 |
| LaserJock | hmmm | 05:13 |
| LaserJock | mine starts at an ISP and ends in a bar | 05:13 |
| ajmitch | heh | 05:13 |
| === Hobbsee tries again, to imagine herself drunk | ||
| === ajmitch doesn't want to imagine that | ||
| bddebian | mine starts at home and ends at home :-) | 05:13 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: you're bad enough sober :) | 05:14 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: hah | 05:14 |
| === Hobbsee gets out her whip | ||
| Hobbsee | say that again.... | 05:14 |
| ajmitch | it would be funny though | 05:14 |
| Hobbsee | indeed | 05:14 |
| ajmitch | that's ok, you're not in NZ | 05:14 |
| Hobbsee | maybe i'll have to get drunk at StevenK's or something. | 05:14 |
| === Hobbsee has a very very long whip :P | ||
| ajmitch | hah | 05:14 |
| LaserJock | I'd love to see a video of a drunk Hobbsee | 05:14 |
| ajmitch | poor StevenK | 05:14 |
| LaserJock | I bet she gets giggley | 05:15 |
| Hobbsee | like i dont anyway :P | 05:15 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: she's giggly enough as it is | 05:15 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: now be fair. you have seen me non-giggly, too | 05:16 |
| === Hobbsee might have just been drunk all the time that ajmitch was here. | ||
| ajmitch | true | 05:16 |
| ajmitch | though you were driving | 05:16 |
| ajmitch | and that scares me, the thought of you driving through sydney while drunk | 05:16 |
| Hobbsee | just think...you were in the car with me a lot... | 05:16 |
| === Hobbsee contemplates driving while drunk. | ||
| Hobbsee | !ping | 05:16 |
| ubotu | pong | 05:16 |
| ajmitch | stop abusing the poor bot | 05:17 |
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| Hobbsee | ajmitch: haha | 05:17 |
| === Hobbsee has a dodgy uni connection today, it seems | ||
| ajmitch | you mean a connection via a dodgy uni? | 05:17 |
| LaserJock | hmm, is ubuntu-bugsquad LP team still used? | 05:19 |
| LaserJock | or is it just ubuntu-qa | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | i more meant that i'm at uni, and have a dodgy connection | 05:19 |
| ajmitch | bugsquad is still there, not sure what practical use it has | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | boo | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: i think it is for meetings, and for a place to subscribe bugs | 05:20 |
| === Hobbsee steals a merge, and rebuilds a section of *gasp* nautilus. | ||
| imbrandon | oh i wish i would win the lottery | 05:21 |
| imbrandon | lol | 05:21 |
| LaserJock | hehe, make sure you don't get sucked into the dark side why you are doing it | 05:21 |
| LaserJock | imbrandon: hmmm, and you lived in Reno, right? ;-) | 05:22 |
| imbrandon | nooooo Hobbsee put the gtk program down ...... | 05:22 |
| imbrandon | LaserJock: yup | 05:22 |
| imbrandon | lol | 05:22 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 05:22 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: yeah, no danger of that | 05:22 |
| Hobbsee | i'd only need to get 175MB of archives, too... | 05:22 |
| LaserJock | heh, well I installed kubuntu today | 05:23 |
| imbrandon | ;) welcome to the light LaserJock | 05:23 |
| LaserJock | and then edubuntu-desktop | 05:23 |
| welshbyte | bah i didn't realise inheriting an open source project would be so much work.. and i haven't even started coding yet | 05:23 |
| LaserJock | hahahahaha | 05:24 |
| imbrandon | heh i might put edubuntu on box here to ltsp into it from my lappy just too see how it works | 05:24 |
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| LaserJock | welcome to our world, welshbyte ... mwhuauauaua | 05:24 |
| welshbyte | hehe | 05:24 |
| LaserJock | imbrandon: ogra brought a thin client to Paris with him, it was pretty cool | 05:24 |
| TheMuso | Hobbsee: Unfortunately not. | 05:24 |
| LaserJock | we set it up with highvoltage's laptop as the server | 05:25 |
| welshbyte | just setting up the web pages and trac/svn how i want them *sweat* | 05:25 |
| imbrandon | you i just realized that the DD that agreed to review apt-mirror on mentors.d.n idles in here ;) hehe ( even though i've never seen him speak ) | 05:25 |
| bddebian | Anyone here use prismstumbler? | 05:25 |
| imbrandon | s/you/you\ know/ | 05:25 |
| LaserJock | hmmm | 05:26 |
| imbrandon | LaserJock: nice | 05:26 |
| === LaserJock pokes around -motu looking for DDs | ||
| === bddebian points at ajmitch | ||
| imbrandon | he i dont know if he wants to be pingd or not , but its not hard to figure out i would imagine ( and no not ajmitch becouse like i said i've never seen this person talk in here ) | 05:27 |
| imbrandon | just idle | 05:27 |
| === ajmitch idles | ||
| === Hobbsee points at StevenK, but he's afk | ||
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| Hobbsee | ajmitch: is a good target, looking for DD> | 05:28 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: who, StevenK ? | 05:28 |
| bddebian | StevenK is a DD? | 05:28 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 05:28 |
| Hobbsee | i think so | 05:29 |
| === Hobbsee considers installing gnome. | ||
| ajmitch | bddebian: what do you think? | 05:29 |
| bddebian | Hobbsee: traitor | 05:29 |
| Hobbsee | guess there's not much point on this uni connection. | 05:29 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: My opinion means nothing | 05:29 |
| === imbrandon notes its the only person with a DD cloak that he see's , definately the first on the list | ||
| ajmitch | imbrandon: there are a number of DDs to lurk here | 05:29 |
| bddebian | azeem is a DD but don't know if he's around or not | 05:30 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: *are* we still here? | 05:30 |
| Hobbsee | do we want to still be here? | 05:30 |
| TheMuso | Where is here? | 05:30 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: I count at least 8 DDs currently in the channel | 05:30 |
| ajmitch | there are probably more | 05:30 |
| imbrandon | with DD cloaks ? | 05:31 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: a guy is asking in #ubuntu+1 if either of us are here | 05:31 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: no | 05:31 |
| TheMuso | I see it. | 05:32 |
| LaserJock | odd | 05:33 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: yes? | 05:33 |
| LaserJock | somebody wants to know if Hobbsee or ajmitch is there? | 05:33 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee , ajmitch : you all arround ? hehehe | 05:34 |
| imbrandon | ugh , i'm getting tired of kmail , anyone got a sugestion for a GRAPHICAL email client they prefer ? i need to try something new | 05:36 |
| imbrandon | maybe evolution | 05:36 |
| TheMuso | What about mutt? | 05:36 |
| Hobbsee | hah. i'm definetly not there then | 05:36 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: thunderbird's not too bad | 05:36 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee: thunderbird likes to eat my imap mail for some reason | 05:37 |
| imbrandon | 'kmail just isnt stable | 05:37 |
| TheMuso | Use something like offlineimap then. | 05:37 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: ahh... | 05:37 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: yeah, exactly | 05:37 |
| imbrandon | mutt/pine is console and i'd prefer not to use a console email app | 05:37 |
| === Hobbsee has never found that thunderbird has eaten her imap mail | ||
| === Hobbsee hugs imap | ||
| LaserJock | imbrandon: really, evo always eats my imap | 05:38 |
| LaserJock | thunderbird usually handles it fine | 05:38 |
| imbrandon | TheMuso: well i have a semi complicated setup as is, all my mail forwards to a gmail account then i grab it on the file server via fetchmail and use procmail to filter it into folders and connect to my local fileserver via courior imap | 05:39 |
| TheMuso | eeeeeeeeeeeeeew | 05:39 |
| imbrandon | best way i've found for me to get my mail anywhere from all my accounts without using a webmail interface ;) | 05:40 |
| welshbyte | i use thunderbird with a *lot* of config tweaks to get it close to how i want it | 05:40 |
| LaserJock | I just use whatever's handy | 05:41 |
| imbrandon | welshbyte: then i would have to tweak the config on every system i use here at home , i like to do all the configs ( main ones ) server side so i can use virtualy any client | 05:41 |
| imbrandon | but alas i havent found a client i like heh | 05:41 |
| imbrandon | although mail.app is nice but osx only heh | 05:41 |
| LaserJock | I still use thunderbird on OS X | 05:41 |
| LaserJock | mail.app is nice but it chokes on my imap at school | 05:42 |
| imbrandon | i use ff but not tb | 05:42 |
| imbrandon | yea mail.app chokes on large accounts | 05:42 |
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| imbrandon | it seems | 05:42 |
| LaserJock | I even tried MS Entourage or however it is spelled | 05:42 |
| welshbyte | oh i usually just scp the prefs.js to any new setups i have | 05:42 |
| imbrandon | welshbyte: thats a pita heh i used to do that, i even had a .thunderbird maped via nfs too and tried that way, simplest to do the tweaks via procmail | 05:43 |
| Hobbsee | gah. | 05:43 |
| imbrandon | plus one good thing about that is i can ssh into my home box when i'm on the road and use mutt is i HAVE to | 05:44 |
| imbrandon | s/is/if | 05:44 |
| Hobbsee | is this still the email discussion? | 05:45 |
| welshbyte | imbrandon: yeah i use procmail serverside for the email filtering stuff too, but i tweak the thunderbird prefs to get it to use plain text everywhere, insert the right "on foo, bar said:" line and lots of other stuff | 05:45 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee: nope talking about quantom physics | 05:45 |
| Hobbsee | ah right | 05:46 |
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| LaserJock | imbrandon: oh goodie | 05:46 |
| Hobbsee | hah | 05:46 |
| LaserJock | I was hoping for that | 05:46 |
| Hobbsee | you should have known better to mention such thigns with LaserJock around. | 05:46 |
| imbrandon | if evolution was avail in osx it would be nice, i wonder if its in fink | 05:46 |
| LaserJock | did you know that everything about an atom is described by an imaginary equation? | 05:46 |
| imbrandon | LaserJock: yup pretty much | 05:47 |
| imbrandon | LaserJock: have you ever read God Debris ? | 05:47 |
| LaserJock | everything there is to know about a molecule is described by a non-real wave | 05:47 |
| imbrandon | its fiction but very well thought out story touching such things | 05:47 |
| LaserJock | hmm, no | 05:47 |
| LaserJock | I'll have to look it up | 05:47 |
| imbrandon | its a free book ( pdf ) from the author of dilbert, you can read it all in one evening | 05:48 |
| imbrandon | but dosent have anything remotely to do with dilbert | 05:48 |
| imbrandon | heh | 05:48 |
| LaserJock | and oddly many problems in Quatum Mechanics take pages and pages to write out and end up with = pi/2 | 05:48 |
| imbrandon | lol | 05:48 |
| === imbrandon loves the fraction of a percent about what he knows about quantum stuff | ||
| LaserJock | and much of the math is totally "hand waving" as we call it | 05:49 |
| LaserJock | but in the end it works out and the universe is preserved, phew | 05:49 |
| imbrandon | yea there are 99.9999999% unknowns used in quantom stuff | 05:49 |
| imbrandon | lol | 05:49 |
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| imbrandon | you ever read the book "timeline" ? not the movie | 05:50 |
| imbrandon | it has some very cool "based on real" fiction too | 05:50 |
| imbrandon | about quantom stuff | 05:50 |
| welshbyte | *hand wave* light does travel as discrete packets of energy... these aren't the droids you're looking for | 05:51 |
| LaserJock | and matter really is a wave, it just doesn't look like it ;-) | 05:51 |
| imbrandon | its by michael creighton ( sp ? ) | 05:51 |
| welshbyte | crichton, i believe | 05:51 |
| imbrandon | yea | 05:51 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 05:52 |
| LaserJock | another weird thing in quantum physics, to me anyway, is time reversal symmetry | 05:52 |
| imbrandon | y? | 05:52 |
| imbrandon | err like ? | 05:53 |
| Hobbsee | screen -R | 05:53 |
| Hobbsee | oops | 05:53 |
| LaserJock | well, in the math used for quantum mechanics you have to look carefully at the symmetry of the equations | 05:53 |
| LaserJock | like if you replace x with -x do you get the same thing? | 05:53 |
| LaserJock | well, time is a funny thing | 05:54 |
| LaserJock | it isn't symmetric | 05:54 |
| bddebian | Anyone have a suggestion for what .desktop categories prismstumbler would belong to? | 05:54 |
| bddebian | Network;Utility ? | 05:54 |
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| imbrandon | yea time is messy | 05:55 |
| imbrandon | hard to explain it with math ( leaste in terms i can semi comprehend ) | 05:56 |
| imbrandon | bddebian: i would say so | 05:56 |
| imbrandon | bddebian: look what cate kismet is in , i would stick it in the same category | 05:56 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: some people like to complain about lack of docs, don't they? | 05:56 |
| bddebian | thx imbrandon | 05:56 |
| bddebian | imbrandon: It doesn't have any :-) | 05:58 |
| imbrandon | LaserJock: http://www.andrewsmcmeel.com/godsdebris/ <-- theres the link , very light ~150 pages or so, like i said its short but will make you think more about some of einsteins theorys and quantom stuff, well really look at it diffrent | 05:58 |
| imbrandon | bddebian: ouch hrm well yea network:utils would be a good place | 05:59 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: that they do | 05:59 |
| imbrandon | dont worry the name is misleading its not about God or religon though ;) | 06:00 |
| LaserJock | imbrandon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_reversal for some light reading ;-) | 06:02 |
| imbrandon | cool , kk | 06:02 |
| LaserJock | imbrandon: actually maybe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_of_time is an easier read | 06:05 |
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| imbrandon | crazy | 06:12 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: correct | 06:13 |
| Hobbsee | (die hobbsee, die!) | 06:13 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: you didn't know infinity was in .au? | 06:13 |
| TheMuso | Hobbsee: You should have. :p | 06:14 |
| bddebian | What permissions should dpatch files have? | 06:14 |
| Hobbsee | i vaguely knew | 06:15 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: heh, never met him | 06:15 |
| bddebian | Well dx has 0755 but I just made two for prismstumbler and pbuilder is complaining about them having 0755 | 06:15 |
| TheMuso | Its nice to see that launchpad plays a doesn't chuck some weird error message with elinks any more. | 06:22 |
| TheMuso | Used to get very annoying. | 06:22 |
| bddebian | Oh crap, that's not my problem, I get this: | 06:22 |
| bddebian | ./configure --prefix=/usr | 06:22 |
| bddebian | make: execvp: ./configure: Permission denied | 06:22 |
| bddebian | make: *** [configure] Error 127 | 06:22 |
| imbrandon | heh | 06:23 |
| bddebian | heh? | 06:23 |
| bddebian | I didn't get that until I added my dpatches :-( | 06:24 |
| Laser_away | ok, the wife is waiting with the car, good night MOTU land | 06:25 |
| ajmitch | night | 06:25 |
| bddebian | Gnight Laser_away | 06:25 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Any suggestions? ^^ | 06:25 |
| bddebian | Anyone? | 06:32 |
| hub | bddebian: are you sure that configure is runing the right shell | 06:34 |
| hub | bddebian: or is +x | 06:34 |
| bddebian | It was fine until I added two patches | 06:35 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: you're not supposed to break things... | 06:42 |
| bddebian | It doesn't make any sense | 06:44 |
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| tritium | hey bddebian | 06:48 |
| bddebian | Heya tritium | 06:48 |
| tritium | bddebian: anything new on the mythtv front? | 06:49 |
| bddebian | tritium: I have requested a sync of 0.19 from Debian Multimedia | 06:49 |
| tritium | bddebian: ooh, fantastic | 06:49 |
| tritium | bddebian: debian-multimedia is the new marillat repo name? | 06:54 |
| bddebian | Aye | 06:55 |
| tritium | Cool | 06:55 |
| tritium | bddebian: hopefully that will happen, then. Even backporting that to dapper would be a good thing | 06:59 |
| welshbyte | eep it's getting light | 06:59 |
| welshbyte | bed time | 06:59 |
| bddebian | Aye | 07:00 |
| bddebian | Gah, I give up. Gnight folks | 07:21 |
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| imbrandon | gnight folks its time for bed | 07:26 |
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| ajmitch | nice | 08:39 |
| ajmitch | someone broke soyuz well, it's spammed edgy-changes nicely | 08:39 |
| StevenK | Nice! | 08:42 |
| StevenK | doko's upload for glib-java seems to be the first. | 08:43 |
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| Seveas | ajmitch, StevenK: urgh indeed -- we now get source AND binary upload mails | 09:14 |
| StevenK | Do we have to? | 09:18 |
| === StevenK much prefered getting a source upload mail, and then checking build logs on LP. | ||
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| imbrandon | hrm whats up with edgy-changes showing all the diffrent arches for uploads now | 09:54 |
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| Toadstool | 'morning everybody | 10:24 |
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| StevenK | imbrandon: Yes, I wish it would stop. | 10:49 |
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| asimon | I wonder if revu.tauware.de is operational. I uploaded two packages yesterday but they didn't appear in the list. When I try to recover my password I get a python backtrace (global name 'REVUBASE' is not defined). I suppose something went wrong. | 12:09 |
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| ajmitch | asimon: before uploading, were you in the ubuntu-universe-contributors team on launchpad, and after joining, did you ask for the keyring to be resynced on revu? | 12:10 |
| asimon | ajmitch: Yes I am in the contributers group. I added a gpg key to my launchpad accound. What do I need to do to get the keyring on revu synced? | 12:11 |
| ajmitch | you need to ask a revu admin to do it, before you upload | 12:11 |
| === ajmitch is doing it now | ||
| asimon | ajmitch: Okay, thank you very much. | 12:12 |
| ajmitch | asimon: what were the packages you uploaded? | 12:14 |
| asimon | It looks like the part of asking for the keyring to be synced is missing on wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU ;-) | 12:14 |
| asimon | ajmitch: gtk2-engines-qtcurve_0.41.1-0ubuntu1 and kde-style-qtcurve_0.41.1-0ubuntu1 | 12:15 |
| ajmitch | ok, packages should be listed now | 12:16 |
| asimon | ajmitch: Great, thank you. | 12:16 |
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| siretart | asimon: where did you get the error about 'REVUBASE'? | 12:27 |
| asimon | siretart: When I click 'recover' to recover the password, i.e. http://revu.tauware.de/lostpw.py?email=andreas.w.simon@gmail.com | 12:28 |
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| asimon | siretart: See also here for the backtrace: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20862 | 12:29 |
| siretart | asimon: ok. lostpw.py is seriously fucked up. need to investigate that | 12:35 |
| asimon | siretart: Yes, such things happen ;-) | 12:37 |
| siretart | asimon: thanks for reporting anyway | 12:37 |
| asimon | siretart: you're welcome | 12:38 |
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| tepsipakki | preview-latex should be deleted from edgy, auctex replaces it now (and conflicts with it) | 01:14 |
| tepsipakki | does motu-powers suffice to do that?-) | 01:16 |
| tepsipakki | ok, filed a bug about it | 01:22 |
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| geser | hi | 01:30 |
| geser | is here someone familiar with gcj? | 01:30 |
| geser | I tried to rebuild pdftk against libgcj7-0 and it failed at the linking stage | 01:31 |
| geser | a log is attached to bug 56580 | 01:31 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 56580 in pdftk "[Edgy] Please rebuild against libgcj7-0" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56580 | 01:31 |
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| TheMuso | Hey Hobbsee. | 03:07 |
| Hobbsee | hi TheMuso | 03:07 |
| ajmitch | hello TheMuso, Hobbsee | 03:14 |
| TheMuso | Hey ajmitch. | 03:15 |
| Hobbsee | hi ajmitch | 03:15 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: debsign -r looks cool :) | 03:15 |
| TheMuso | Night folks. | 03:15 |
| Hobbsee | night TheMuso | 03:15 |
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| Hobbsee | asimon: please turn off the away messages | 04:23 |
| zul | but how do we know if he is truely away :) | 04:24 |
| Hobbsee | zul: hah | 04:24 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: Aren't you supposed to tell him that in a kick reason? :-P | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: i did think of that. in both channels. | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | make that in all three | 04:26 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 04:37 |
| Gloubiboulga | heya bddebian :) | 04:37 |
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| bddebian | Hi Gloubiboulga | 04:39 |
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| Gloubiboulga | siretart, hello, are you around? | 05:29 |
| siretart | Gloubiboulga: yes, but busy | 05:30 |
| Gloubiboulga | siretart, ok, I have a Permission issue on tiber, but it's not urgent | 05:31 |
| bddebian | siretart!! | 05:31 |
| siretart | Gloubiboulga: please /query me the issue | 05:31 |
| siretart | huhu bddebian | 05:31 |
| bddebian | siretart: Hey, can I hack up the MOTUGames page a little? For example the GL/GLU translations link should be dropped. | 05:32 |
| siretart | bddebian: just go on! i didn't have time lately to do anything on MOTUGames (besides fixing scorched3d) | 05:32 |
| bddebian | I've been trying but failing as usual :-( | 05:32 |
| siretart | scorched3d should be in quite reasonable state now. It still segfaults on amd64 on exit and with bird sound enabled | 05:34 |
| bddebian | OK, this error is still killing me.. :-( | 05:35 |
| bddebian | ./configure --prefix=/usr | 05:35 |
| bddebian | make: execvp: ./configure: Permission denied | 05:35 |
| bddebian | make: *** [configure] Error 127 | 05:35 |
| siretart | bddebian: chmod +x configure | 05:35 |
| bddebian | It is 0755 already | 05:35 |
| Kyral_Laptop | hmm I should start coding again | 05:35 |
| siretart | ro filesystem perhaps? | 05:35 |
| bddebian | In pbuilder | 05:36 |
| bddebian | ? | 05:36 |
| zul | i just thought of something when you enter a username in the installer what if you choose root what would happen? | 05:48 |
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| josesanch | hello | 08:26 |
| josesanch | i have uploaded a new version of gnomecatalog http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1560 a couple of times. | 08:26 |
| josesanch | But the new versions is not in motu | 08:27 |
| bddebian | josesanch: Have you fixed the issues raphink commented on? | 08:28 |
| josesanch | yes.. | 08:28 |
| josesanch | the problem is that i did a dput. Everything seens ok. But the new version is not there | 08:29 |
| josesanch | bbdebian: do you know why? | 08:35 |
| bddebian | josesanch: Oh, sorry. No, you need to ping a REVU admin. | 08:35 |
| josesanch | by e-mail? | 08:36 |
| josesanch | ok.. i'm going to search in wiki | 08:37 |
| bddebian | josesanch: No, usually there are some around | 08:37 |
| josesanch | ahh.. ok.. I'll wait | 08:38 |
| josesanch | bddebian: thanks a lot | 08:38 |
| bddebian | siretart: Still around? | 08:39 |
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| welshbyte | good evening | 09:40 |
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| bddebian | Heya welshbyte | 09:45 |
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| lfittl | Lathiat: ping | 09:54 |
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| AnAnt_ | I was wondering why didn't u guys try mutt-ng since it is on debian | 09:55 |
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| lfittl | siretart: ping | 09:59 |
| welshbyte | AnAnt_: looks like mutt-ng is in debian experimental... ubuntu gets its debian packages from debian unstable | 10:00 |
| AnAnt_ | welshbyte: ic | 10:00 |
| AnAnt_ | thanks | 10:00 |
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| micahcowan | There is a user having trouble with a particular program (tuxpaint) on a particular printer (Brother HL 2700CN). I have a few ideas as to how this might be fixed, but as I don't have that printer, I'd need the bug reporter to check them out. What is the approved way to do this? Should I give them a debdiff, and tell them how to build a .deb from it, or is it permissible to give them a .deb in their architecture, and ask them to install it (possibl | 10:11 |
| micahcowan | y trusting me not to do something nasty while my .deb's install gets root...)? | 10:11 |
| AnAnt_ | bddebian: you there ? | 10:12 |
| bddebian | Yessir | 10:12 |
| AnAnt_ | bddebian: I just checked your comment on kchmviewer | 10:13 |
| AnAnt_ | bddebian: I don't understand what should I do regarding that ? | 10:14 |
| bddebian | AnAnt_: the version? | 10:14 |
| AnAnt_ | bddebian: yes | 10:15 |
| AnAnt_ | bddebian: it is version 2.6 | 10:15 |
| AnAnt_ | bddebian: and that raises another question too | 10:16 |
| AnAnt_ | bddebian: I added a package (that doesn't exist on debian) called acon, which is to enable reading/writing arabic in virtual console. So does its NON-existance in debian make a problem ? | 10:17 |
| bddebian | AnAnt_: I think I commented on that too :-) | 10:18 |
| AnAnt_ | oh you want me to just change the version names, I didn't realize that | 10:19 |
| AnAnt_ | ok, that's it ? | 10:19 |
| bddebian | AnAnt_: No it's not a problem. But if the version is newer in Ubuntu or it doesn't existing in Debian, the release number should be -0ubuntu1 | 10:20 |
| AnAnt_ | other than that, the acon & kchmviewer are fine ? | 10:20 |
| bddebian | That way if it does get to debian and they make foo 1.0.1-1 we can sync it :-) | 10:20 |
| AnAnt_ | other than that, the acon & kchmviewer are fine ? | 10:21 |
| bddebian | kchmviewer yes. Acon, you don't need the entire GPL text in debian/copyright. Other than that and the version, it looks OK to me. | 10:29 |
| AnAnt_ | well, so what do I put in debian/copyright ? | 10:29 |
| Laser_away | micahcowan: did you get your question answered? | 10:29 |
| micahcowan | Not yet... :( | 10:30 |
| Laser_away | micahcowan: sure, send them a .deb | 10:30 |
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| Toadstool | heya folks | 10:32 |
| AnAnt_ | ok, I found an example | 10:33 |
| welshbyte | hm i might need a reminder here | 10:34 |
| welshbyte | i have a package that isn't in debian and i'm packaging it. it's currently version 0.4.2 ... does it go to 0.4.2-0ubuntu1 ? | 10:35 |
| crimsun | (yes) | 10:35 |
| bddebian | AnAnt_: Oh.. If you want more info, you can also read this page in the licensing section: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Reviewing | 10:35 |
| bddebian | welshbyte: Yes | 10:35 |
| welshbyte | woo i got it right :) | 10:35 |
| AnAnt_ | bddebian: ok, I just uploaded them now | 10:37 |
| bddebian | AnAnt_: I'm at work now but I'll try to check tonight. Of course we still need a second reviewer too :-) | 10:37 |
| AnAnt_ | is there something wrong with the password recovery on REVU ? | 10:37 |
| bddebian | That I don't know | 10:38 |
| bddebian | sorry | 10:38 |
| LaserJock | AnAnt_: at times | 10:39 |
| LaserJock | it's always worked for me | 10:39 |
| LaserJock | but other people have reported it just coming up empty | 10:39 |
| AnAnt_ | yup, that's what happened | 10:39 |
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| AnAnt | is there a way to build several .dsc files in the same pbuilder command (to avoid delay of unpacking pbuilder environment for every package) ? | 10:48 |
| LaserJock | well, you unpack the pbuilder to keep it clean | 10:50 |
| AnAnt | LaserJock: btw, what browser are you using ? | 10:51 |
| AnAnt | I tried lynx & elinks, both failed in password recovery | 10:51 |
| LaserJock | right now? | 10:51 |
| LaserJock | firefox | 10:51 |
| AnAnt | ok | 10:52 |
| AnAnt | sometimes it gives my a python error ! | 10:53 |
| AnAnt | well, anyways, thanks for the help | 10:54 |
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