[12:10] <imbrandon> moins / evening everyone
[12:14] <imbrandon> ugh who is John Dong
[12:14] <zul> he was the backport guy
[12:15] <ajmitch> morning Hobbsee
[12:15] <ajmitch> you're up insanely early today
[12:15] <Hobbsee> morning all
[12:15] <Hobbsee> hi ajmitch
[12:15] <zul> imbrandon: what happened?
[12:15] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: i'm at uni insanely early.  i have no working car.
[12:15] <imbrandon> did i miss something or is there s specific reason he rejected my backport request filed against package source , and refiled the EXACT some request agains a "ubuntu-backports" project
[12:15] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: how unfortunate, what broke?
[12:16] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: the automatic transmission
[12:16] <ajmitch> ouch
[12:16] <zul> copy cat..
[12:16] <ajmitch> so you had to catch an early bus in?
[12:17] <imbrandon> zul : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kbfx/+bug/56527 to see what i mean
[12:17] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56527 in dapper-backports "[backport]  request for kbfx 0.4.9.1+20060611cvs-1 from edgy -> dapper-backports" [Medium,In progress] 
[12:17] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: you mean a bus, train, and another bus.
[12:17] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: no, i got dad to give me a lift
[12:17] <ajmitch> imbrandon: I guess it's his way of tracking stuff
[12:18] <zul> that must be a fun ride
[12:18] <imbrandon> afaik it should be filed against the package source, that make sense, so you get the other information, is this a documented change somewhere ?
[12:18] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: I guess it gives you more time to work on that assignment :)
[12:18] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: true that...
[12:18] <Hobbsee> which assingment :P
[12:18] <Hobbsee> okay...3....one with two parts, so that makes 4...
[12:19] <ajmitch> the physics one you were worrying about
[12:19] <Hobbsee> oh.  that was due yesterday, and i did that in my broken car while waiting for the towtruck.
[12:19] <zul> imbrandon: no idea
[12:19] <ajmitch> ah
[12:20] <ajmitch> you got it done though?
[12:20] <imbrandon> hrm he put it "in progress to" wth is that? is it building now ? so theres soyuz support? i love chnges when no one says WTH they are doing
[12:20] <ajmitch> imbrandon: I'd say it means he's checking it out - nothing to do with soyuz
[12:20] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: yeah
[01:43] <imbrandon> ajmitch: rember the convo last night about age of nicks on IRC, check this, i think he has everyone beat ( 136 years ) http://www.thedailywtf.com/images/200608/gaim-wtf.gif
[02:59] <bddebian> Heya gang
[02:59] <ajmitch> hello
[02:59] <imbrandon> hey bddebian
[02:59] <bddebian> Hi ajmitch, imbrandon
[02:59] <Laser_away> hi guys
[03:00] <bddebian> Heya Laser_away, StevenK
[03:01] <Laser_away> I hate how most of the on-campus food places shut down for the summer :(
[03:01] <imbrandon> wendys ;)
[03:01] <bddebian> Taco Bell!
[03:01] <Laser_away> well yeah, if I could walk there
[03:01] <Laser_away> but the wife has got the car
[03:01] <zul_> subway
[03:02] <Laser_away> mmmm, now you guys are making me even more hungry
[03:02] <Laser_away> doh
[03:02] <zul_> im having a slurpee
[03:02] <imbrandon> lol yo quero taco bell ?
[03:02] <StevenK> Laser_away: One word can take away your apitite.
[03:02] <imbrandon> mmmm slurpee , /me loves 7-11 slurpees
[03:02] <bddebian> Heh
[03:02] <StevenK> Laser_away: "McDonalds"
[03:02] <ajmitch> StevenK: bad
[03:03] <Laser_away> Big Mac!!
[03:03] <imbrandon> heh i like mcdonalds ;)
[03:03] <Laser_away> guess what I ate when I went to Paris?
[03:03] <bddebian> A Royale with Cheese ? ;-P
[03:03] <imbrandon> hahahah
[03:03] <ajmitch> Laser_away: please don't
[03:03] <Laser_away> no, highvoltage ate the Royale
[03:03] <jsgotangco> haha
[03:03] <Laser_away> I had the bigmac
[03:03] <jsgotangco> he ate le big mac
[03:03] <bddebian> hehe
[03:04] <bddebian> Mayonaise on your fries?
[03:04] <tseng> ugh
[03:04] <StevenK> Damn, now look what I've done.
[03:04] <tseng> mcdonalds
[03:04] <Laser_away> and then latter I went to a nice Subway shop across the river from Notre Dame ;-)
[03:04] <bddebian> imbrandon: Exactly why I said that ;-P
[03:04] <imbrandon> bddebian: hehe yea i caught it ;)
[03:04] <jsgotangco> Laser_away was sick of eating fish and non-american food
[03:04] <imbrandon> i love that movie
[03:04] <jsgotangco> i think the raw beef was clincher
[03:04] <Laser_away> well, after that hotel food McDonald's was a God-send
[03:05] <imbrandon> lol
[03:05] <bddebian> imbrandon: That whole sequence is one of the funniest things I have ever seen
[03:05] <tseng> hotel at ubuntu paris?
[03:05] <Laser_away> I thought I was going to die of starvation
[03:05] <jsgotangco> yea
[03:05] <Laser_away> or worse
[03:05] <tseng> australia was the same deal
[03:05] <tseng> a bunch of green stuff
[03:05] <bddebian> ugh
[03:05] <ajmitch> and far too much fish
[03:05] <jsgotangco> this was worse
[03:05] <tseng> i had to get all my calories in with the english breakfast
[03:05] <ajmitch> fish every single day at UDU
[03:05] <Laser_away> I would have taken salad any day
[03:05] <bddebian> What, no vegemite?
[03:05] <ajmitch> bddebian: of course there was
[03:05] <tseng> Laser_away: this wasnt lettuce like we have in america
[03:05] <ajmitch> bddebian: I've got a jar of it here if you want some
[03:06] <jsgotangco> they totally ignored vegans/vegetarians
[03:06] <tseng> with real big pieces of lettuce
[03:06] <tseng> it was all kinds of funny little things
[03:06] <imbrandon> heh
[03:06] <Laser_away> well, we had raw beef and pate (sp?)
[03:06] <bddebian> ajmitch: Uhm, no thanks :-)
[03:06] <tseng> raw beef?
[03:06] <tseng> wtf
[03:06] <jsgotangco> yeah
[03:06] <imbrandon> raw beef ?
[03:06] <Laser_away> I thought maybe there was a natural gas outage or something
[03:06] <ajmitch> bddebian: uncultured...
[03:06] <Laser_away> nothing was cooked
[03:06] <jsgotangco> its france!
[03:06] <Laser_away> steak tartar
[03:06] <Laser_away> or something
[03:06] <bddebian> ugh
[03:07] <Laser_away> a big plate of thin sliced raw beef
[03:07] <bddebian> ajmitch: I don't deny that :-)
[03:07] <zul_> mmmmm....pate
[03:07] <jsgotangco> green avocado which is spicy
[03:07] <tseng> i eat sushi
[03:07] <jsgotangco> sushi is good
[03:07] <Laser_away> ajmitch: oh man, what I would have given for a steak
[03:07] <tseng> or even a full sized sushi-grade tuna filet
[03:07] <tseng> cooked rare
[03:07] <ajmitch> sushi & raw beef are a bit different
[03:07] <tseng> raw beef
[03:07] <tseng> not so much
[03:07] <imbrandon> tseng: only with lots of umm hell whats that green hot stuff
[03:07] <imbrandon> heh
[03:07] <tseng> imbrandon: wasabi
[03:07] <ajmitch> imbrandon: wasabi
[03:08] <imbrandon> YEA
[03:08] <jsgotangco> Laser_away: at least we got to eat in a real brasserie
[03:08] <imbrandon> i love that stuff
[03:08] <tseng> its ok
[03:08] <tseng> it kills germs
[03:08] <Laser_away> jsgotangco: yeah
[03:08] <Laser_away> fortunately my view of France wasn't totally ruined
[03:08] <imbrandon> and SLURPIEES
[03:08] <jsgotangco> imbrandon: have you tasted green peas deep fried in wasabi
[03:08] <imbrandon> jsgotangco: cant say i have
[03:08] <imbrandon> ugh phone
[03:08] <imbrandon> brb
[03:09] <ajmitch> jsgotangco: the ones we get tend to be fairly bland
[03:09] <Laser_away> jsgotangco: are they good, I think I've seen them in the store here?
[03:09] <jsgotangco> Laser_away: yeah just dont eat a lot of it
[03:09] <Laser_away> ah, ok
[03:09] <jsgotangco> it goes through your nostrils
[03:09] <jsgotangco> the feeling that is, not the pea
[03:09] <Laser_away> my uncle was in the Army for a while and was stationed in South Korea
[03:10] <Laser_away> he got a taste for that nasty cabbage stuff
[03:10] <Laser_away> can't think of the name
[03:10] <jsgotangco> its callled kimchi
[03:10] <tseng> cole slaw?
[03:10] <jsgotangco> its delicious!
[03:10] <Laser_away> yeah!!
[03:10] <Laser_away> when he came back it was all he would eat
[03:10] <Laser_away> but my grandpa wouldn't let him come over to his house cause he smelled so bad ;-)
[03:10] <jsgotangco> Laser_away: there's actually a kimchi museum in seoul, you can look it up at the web
[03:11] <jsgotangco> well kimchi is a way to increase the storage life of vegetables back then in the long winter
[03:11] <jsgotangco> they made is spicier to heat up the body as well
[03:11] <Laser_away> ok, I'm off on a hunt. I think it'll either be Jimmy John's or Jim Boy's
[03:12] <Laser_away> jsgotangco: good to know if I'm ever deserted in the middle of Korea ;-)
[03:12] <jsgotangco> asian food is generally way better compared to european imho
[03:13] <tseng> jsgotangco: yes
[03:13] <tseng> jsgotangco: god yes
[03:13] <zul_> im a steak and potatoes kind of guy
[03:13] <tseng> i almost nearly killed myself in Spain
[03:13] <tseng> I could not get a fucking steak to save my life
[03:13] <tseng> or a hamburger
[03:13] <tseng> everything had mussels
[03:13] <zul_> macdonalds?
[03:13] <jsgotangco> you get blood sausages or something as well
[03:13] <tseng> i asked a guy how to get to mcdonalds
[03:13] <tseng> no fucking se
[03:13] <ajmitch> hah, only time I had mussels recently was having dinner at mpt's place
[03:14] <tseng> ajmitch: if i never see another mussel again..
[03:14] <tseng> the only thing on menus we could recognize most places was paella
[03:14] <tseng> rice, mussels, shitty prawn
[03:14] <tseng> i am spoiled for life by australian prawn
[03:14] <zul_> heh every summer when we came back from kenya the first thing we do is head to a macdonalds
[03:15] <tseng> zul_: mcd is inedible
[03:15] <ajmitch> hello Hobbsee
[03:15] <zul_> tseng: its ok
[03:15] <tseng> zul_: i like burgers made of beef
[03:15] <bddebian> Heya Hobbsee
[03:15] <zul_> hey Hobbsee
[03:15] <tseng> bddebian: oh, you've seen nothing
[03:15] <ajmitch> tseng: rather than playing pick-that-animal?
[03:15] <Hobbsee> yay for simple programming exercises as quizzes.
[03:15] <bddebian> tseng: ;-P
[03:15] <zul_> tseng: so do i, but when you need grease you need grease
[03:15] <tseng> ajmitch: is it an animal?
[03:15] <imbrandon> [20:10]  <jsgotangco> its callled kimchi  <-- that stuff rocks
[03:15] <ajmitch> not entirely sure
[03:16] <tseng> ajmitch: vegitable oil in meltodextrin?
[03:16] <tseng> ajmitch: who knows.
[03:16] <tseng> all of the above is my guess
[03:16] <tseng> but very little came from a cow
[03:16] <ajmitch> I should get pizza tonight or something
[03:16] <tseng> you should have seen it
[03:16] <jsgotangco> Laser_away: i should send you a box of duck eggs soon :D
[03:16] <tseng> me, davyd, desrt trying to order a pizza in catalan
[03:16] <ajmitch> heh
[03:16] <tseng> what a joke
[03:16] <ajmitch> you didn't have jordi along to translate?
[03:16] <tseng> no
[03:17] <jsgotangco> heh
[03:17] <tseng> people spoke enough spanish to talk to them
[03:17] <jsgotangco> bddebian: landlubber!
[03:17] <tseng> which was the path i tried
[03:17] <ajmitch> jsgotangco: he's obviously not asian
[03:17] <tseng> next time, I am not going more than 2 feet from Miguel
[03:17] <bddebian> jsgotangco: I don't eat anything that swims around it it's own shit all it's life ;-P
[03:17] <jsgotangco> haha
[03:17] <imbrandon> lol
[03:17] <jsgotangco> i guess you haven't tasted octopus or shark even
[03:17] <tseng> bddebian: pork?
[03:18] <ajmitch> jsgotangco: some of us have
[03:18] <tseng> man, spain did have great calamari
[03:18] <imbrandon> tseng: i was thinking the same thing
[03:18] <zul_> zebra meat is pretty good
[03:18] <ajmitch> kangaroo meat is pretty interesting
[03:18] <jsgotangco> is it the same as horse?
[03:18] <tseng> lightly fried with some lemon
[03:18] <imbrandon> zebra is the same as horse meat isnt it
[03:18] <bddebian> tseng: pork is good
[03:18] <tseng> of course it is
[03:18] <ajmitch> Hobbsee can tell you all about eating kangaroo..
[03:18] <tseng> but they life in their own dirt
[03:19] <bddebian> "pigs are filthy animals"
[03:19] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: so can you
[03:19] <bddebian> tseng: They don't breath it :-)
[03:19] <tseng> bddebian: no, they eat it
[03:19] <imbrandon> bddebian: nah they just eat it
[03:19] <bddebian> No they don't
[03:19] <imbrandon> yea they do , right along with the slop
[03:19] <tseng> have you seen the movie Snatch?
[03:20] <tseng> like dags?
[03:20] <ajmitch> yeah
[03:20] <bddebian> Uhm, my neighbors raised pigs
[03:20] <imbrandon> i'm sorry
[03:20] <tseng> they eat disgusting things
[03:21] <jsgotangco> yeah the key to raising pigs is to make sure their den is always clean
[03:21] <jsgotangco> and always have clean water too
[03:21] <bddebian> So do chickens if given the chance
[03:21] <bddebian> In fact there are no nastier creatures than chickens
[03:21] <tseng> I like dags.
[03:21] <jsgotangco> ive seen chicks kill each other and peck entrails
[03:22] <tseng> yum
[03:22] <bddebian> Oh yeah, if Chickens taste blood, they go nuts
[03:23] <tseng> at least it isnt just me that things international food blows
[03:24] <tseng> thinks
[03:24] <tseng> America wins again
[03:24] <imbrandon> lol
[03:25] <imbrandon> some international food is good, special after its been "american ized" hehe
[03:25] <ajmitch> americans..
[03:26] <imbrandon> kimchi , mexian food ( all the same ingrediants just presented diffrent )
[03:26] <jsgotangco> kimchi got americanized?
[03:26] <imbrandon> lots of other stuff i cant think of right now
[03:26] <bddebian> Some real mexican food is frightening
[03:26] <ajmitch> jsgotangco: how else could they eat it?
[03:27] <jsgotangco> pig brain taco
[03:27] <imbrandon> jsgotangco: most here prepare it a bit diffrent than the koreans i have seen prepare it
[03:27] <bddebian> I had some chicken thing in Mexico city that I swear they just threw the entire chicken in blender and stuck it on a tortilla
[03:27] <imbrandon> bddebian: hahaha probably
[03:27] <jsgotangco> when i was in seoul, the local Golden Arches had Bulgogi burger with kimchi siding
[03:28] <imbrandon> ;)
[03:28] <bddebian> I would definetly starve to death in an Asian country
[03:28] <imbrandon> korean kimchi is alot spicier from what ive seen
[03:28] <bddebian> Too many vegetables and seafood
[03:28] <ajmitch> poor bddebian
[03:28] <jsgotangco> that's why we probably live longer
[03:28] <jsgotangco> ;)
[03:29] <imbrandon> heh
[03:29] <jsgotangco> bddebian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balut
[03:29] <bddebian> jsgotangco: Aye :-)
[03:29] <imbrandon> native american food is good to ( well the way myt wife makes it ) , alot like mexian food
[03:29] <imbrandon> s/myt/my
[03:30] <welshbyte> i used to pretty fussy about food.. these days i eat just about anything put in front of me except any kind of curry
[03:31] <bddebian> OK, I have like 4 or 5 packages now that are outdated in Debian too :'-(
[03:31] <jsgotangco> curry is ok it just seeps in your pores if you have too much of it
[03:32] <welshbyte> makes me hurl :)
[03:32] <LaserJock> oh man guys, I'm trying to eat here ;-)
[03:32] <bddebian> haha
[03:32] <imbrandon> lol
[03:33] <bddebian> ack
[03:33] <welshbyte> heh
[03:34] <welshbyte> "can i get some food in my additives please?"
[03:34] <LaserJock> I've got an italian sub and chips right now
[03:34] <welshbyte> mmm
[03:34] <imbrandon> sounds good, with some oil and vinigar dressing to go on it
[03:34] <LaserJock> yep
[03:35] <Hobbsee> bad ajmitch
[03:35] <LaserJock> had smoked salmon and havarti cheese pizza for lunch
[03:35] <LaserJock> my wife thought it would be fun
[03:35] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: you're supposed to eat, you know!
[03:35] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: can't I just say it's your fault?
[03:35] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: nope
[03:35] <ajmitch> darn
[03:35] <imbrandon> heh your makin me hungery now, mmmm pasta sounds good tonight
[03:35] <StevenK> ajmitch: No, because it's yours
[03:35] <ajmitch> StevenK: that's beside the point
[03:35] <LaserJock> bddebian: dude, that reminds me
[03:36] <welshbyte> oh great, 2:35am and i'm hankering for steak
[03:36] <LaserJock> the undergrad in my lab found a forum post of worst cooking ideas
[03:36] <imbrandon> lol
[03:36] <LaserJock> the worst I saw was a guy decided to make a burrito smoothie
[03:36] <ajmitch> uh oh
[03:36] <LaserJock> but it came out kinda thick
[03:36] <imbrandon> hahahahahahahahah
[03:36] <ajmitch> a bit lumpy?
[03:36] <bddebian> LaserJock: D00d, that is nasty :)
[03:36] <LaserJock> so he looked around for something Mexican to thin it out
[03:37] <LaserJock> so he found some tequila
[03:37] <imbrandon> LOL
[03:37] <imbrandon> sour cream
[03:37] <ajmitch> that'd be one tasty drink
[03:37] <LaserJock> so it became a burrito and tequila smoothie
[03:37] <bddebian> Oh man
[03:37] <bddebian> I had beer on corn flakes in college once
[03:38] <bddebian> Only things I had in the apartment
[03:38] <imbrandon> roflmao
[03:38] <ajmitch> sick man
[03:38] <bddebian> It was pretty nasty
[03:38] <ajmitch> I'm surprised you still had beer left
[03:38] <LaserJock> I knew a guy in college who was previously in the Army
[03:38] <LaserJock> and developed a Mt. Dew in cereal habit
[03:38] <bddebian> eww
[03:39] <imbrandon> ahhh now THAT sounds good ;)
[03:39] <jsgotangco> ugghh
[03:39] <StevenK> LaserJock: Ewwwwww
[03:39] <LaserJock> that was for you imbrandon ;-)
[03:39] <imbrandon> mt dew in fruity pebbles ;)
[03:39] <ajmitch> jsgotangco: mt dew & mentos?
[03:39] <bddebian> Oh yeah, you definetly need more sugar with your Mt. Dew :-)
[03:39] <imbrandon> lol
[03:39] <jsgotangco> ajmitch: they explode
[03:39] <ajmitch> jsgotangco: it'd be fun though
[03:39] <bddebian> Even though Mt. Dew is the nectar of the Gods ;-P
[03:40] <imbrandon> http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/mt_dew.jpg
[03:40] <ajmitch> not like you haven't seen enough of them
[03:40] <ajmitch> imbrandon: very very wrong
[03:40] <zul_> heh...we get crippled mt dew
[03:40] <jsgotangco> what a waste of fridge space
[03:40] <bddebian> imbrandon: Nice :-)
[03:40] <ajmitch> decaf mt dew?
[03:40] <imbrandon> crippled mt dew ?
[03:40] <zul_> yeah...
[03:40] <Yagisan> G'day all
[03:40] <imbrandon> heya Yagisan
[03:40] <ajmitch> hello Yagisan
[03:40] <LaserJock> no  way!!!
[03:41] <bddebian> Decaf Mt. Dew?  WTF??
[03:41] <LaserJock> sorry, that was to zul_, not Yagisan
[03:41] <ajmitch> zul_: that just takes away the whole reason for the drink
[03:41] <zul_> ajmitch: yep...thats why i dont drink it
[03:41] <imbrandon> [20:40]  <jsgotangco> what a waste of fridge space  <-- yea i still have room at the bottom for more huh ?
[03:41] <bddebian> That's like non-alcoholic beer, or decaf coffee
[03:41] <StevenK> As a matter of fact, Australian Mountain Dew doesn't have caffeine.
[03:41] <jsgotangco> imbrandon: put lots of cup noodles heh
[03:41] <LaserJock> I could sorta see diet mt dew cause you drink so much
[03:41] <imbrandon> StevenK: WOW
[03:41] <StevenK> So they doubled the amount of sugar.
[03:41] <ajmitch> StevenK: that's worrying
[03:42] <ajmitch> I'm sure that it has caffeine in NZ
[03:42] <Yagisan> can anyone think of an opensource alternative to FMOD. I'm running a argument to get it dropped from some code that I'd like to see in Ubuntu
[03:42] <jsgotangco> there was a local craze here a decade ago mixing raw egg with rootbeer
[03:42] <StevenK> ajmitch: Does it have a slightly bitter aftertaste?
[03:42] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: oh yeah, mt dew + ramen!!!!
[03:42] <ajmitch> StevenK: I don't know, I don't drink it
[03:42] <bddebian> So you don't stay up but your teeth rot faster?
[03:42] <StevenK> Heh
[03:42] <Yagisan> aussie mt dew is nice :)
[03:42] <StevenK> Yagisan: I prefered the Mountain Dew I drank in Finland.
[03:43] <imbrandon> + cafeine is good
[03:43] <Yagisan> StevenK, I eat suger from the pack - sweet is nice
[03:43] <bddebian> I prefer Mt. Dew + vodka or so :-)
[03:43] <jsgotangco> unprocessed 7-11 slurpee
[03:43] <jsgotangco> heh
[03:43] <jsgotangco> pure sugar
[03:43] <LaserJock> well, I'm down to pretty much just diet soda because of my teeth :(
[03:43] <welshbyte> Yagisan: umm, you mean something like gstreamer?
[03:43] <imbrandon> bddebian: mt dew and everclear is GOOOOOOOD
[03:44] <imbrandon> everclear and pineapple juice is better ;)
[03:44] <Yagisan> welshbyte, something that supports all those useless formats no one uses, and is on *NIx, OSX and Win32
[03:45] <welshbyte> if no one uses them, what's the point? :)
[03:45] <jsgotangco> what is everclear?
[03:45] <imbrandon> jsgotangco: 190 proof grain liquor
[03:45] <ajmitch> imbrandon: sounds dangerous
[03:45] <jsgotangco> ahh ethanol
[03:45] <Yagisan> welshbyte, I tried that argument - it's not getting far - that's why I popped in to see my mates here
[03:45] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: dude, I don't even drink and I know what everclear is ;-)
[03:46] <jsgotangco> 190 proof? isnt that like fuel quality?
[03:46] <ajmitch> jsgotangco: ethanol with a touch of flavouring & other additives
[03:46] <LaserJock> I've got some 200 proof in the lab ;-)
[03:46] <imbrandon> jsgotangco: pretty much, we drove a motocycle on it one time for a few miles, but the spark plugs needed replaced after that
[03:46] <ajmitch> LaserJock: that's just not as tasty
[03:46] <welshbyte> Yagisan: fair enough, well i'm no expert so maybe someone with more experience can help after they've finished discussing beverages ;)
[03:46] <LaserJock> ajmitch: I doubt it, and you can only get it in small quantities
[03:47] <jsgotangco> youll die drinking it straight right?
[03:47] <imbrandon> LaserJock: 200 proof == 100%  hehe
[03:47] <LaserJock> imbrandon: exactly
[03:47] <LaserJock> we have to do special purchasing to get it
[03:47] <bddebian> Oh Everclean, nice
[03:47] <imbrandon> jsgotangco: everclear ? nah you can drink it streight but it taste nasty by its self
[03:47] <LaserJock> because normal research ethanol they but nasty tasting additives so grad students won't drink it ;-)
[03:47] <bddebian> Yeah, it burns like hell
[03:47] <jsgotangco> ahh so you make cocktails with it
[03:48] <imbrandon> jsgotangco: yea normaly 1oz to a drink 8oz drink ;)
[03:48] <imbrandon> after 3 or 4 you forget your name or why you were drinking ;)
[03:49] <ajmitch> LaserJock: shocking, as if grad students would ever drink it ;)
[03:49] <jsgotangco> hmm they are good for mountain treks then
[03:49] <jsgotangco> you use some to cook, then use a part to mix with cocktails
[03:49] <LaserJock> ajmitch: no, they do mt. dew and ramen instead
[03:49] <LaserJock> :-)
[03:50] <imbrandon> n the United States, Everclear is a brand of grain alcohol (ethanol), available at concentrations of 95% alcohol (190 proof) and 75.5% (151 proof) [1] . By contrast, hard liquors such as rum and vodka generally contain 40% alcohol (80 proof). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everclear_(alcohol)
[03:51] <imbrandon> i dident know they made the 151 proof kind , hehe
[03:51] <jsgotangco> its this like moonshine?
[03:51] <bddebian> jsgotangco: Pretty much yes
[03:51] <imbrandon> stronger normaly but same taste
[03:51] <LaserJock> well, more than moonshine
[03:51] <LaserJock> everclear is like research grade ethanol
[03:52] <imbrandon> moonshine is normaly about 75-80%
[03:52] <LaserJock> we use 95% for most research
[03:52] <imbrandon> hehe
[03:53] <imbrandon> its still good with mt dew ;) one shot per glass ;)
[03:53] <LaserJock> bah
[03:54] <LaserJock> I think that destroys the purity of the mt. dew :-)
[03:55] <imbrandon> heheh
[03:55] <LaserJock> I don't mix my mt dew with anything ;-)
[03:55] <imbrandon> mt dew should be the offical ubuntu drink ;)
[03:55] <bddebian> heh
[03:55] <bddebian> UbuntDew
[03:55] <StevenK> LaserJock: What sort of research uses 95% alchol?
[03:56] <imbrandon> lol
[03:56] <Hobbsee> nooo!  coke!
[03:56] <StevenK> "I wonder how long it will take us to get pissed today" ?
[03:56] <LaserJock> I'm a chemist
[03:56] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: more dev's and ppl in general drink mt dew ( everywhere but mexico ) heheh
[03:56] <StevenK> My question still stands. ;-P
[03:56] <bddebian> StevenK: Research into getting drunk ;-P
[03:56] <LaserJock> ethanol is a really good solvent
[03:56] <Hobbsee> can you imagine a drunk hobbsee?
[03:57] <LaserJock> that's why it's not good for your body
[03:57] <imbrandon> LaserJock: at UNR i wouldent be suprised ;)
[03:57] <bddebian> Hobbsee: Not with any weapons nearby ;-)
[03:57] <LaserJock> you kinda end up dissolving your body in a way
[03:57] <imbrandon> or pointy sticks
[03:57] <Hobbsee> heh
[03:57] <StevenK> My father told me once that I was silly enough sober, and he never wanted to see me drunk.
[03:58] <imbrandon> LaserJock: dosent it work becouse its a poison ( all liquors )
[03:58] <LaserJock> anyway, we use ethanol in my lab as a general purpose solvent and for cleaning optics
[03:58] <LaserJock> kinda yeah
[03:58] <LaserJock> we use a lot of methanol to (wood alchol)
[03:58] <LaserJock> it'll make you go blind
[03:58] <imbrandon> heh
[03:58] <LaserJock> so don't drink that
[03:58] <jsgotangco> im not going to doubt a chemist
[03:59] <jsgotangco> ;)
[03:59] <Yagisan> I see. after someone pukes after drinking it, you disolve the evidience with what's left over ;)
[03:59] <LaserJock> attacks your optical nerves or something
[03:59] <StevenK> Yagisan: Bwahaha
[03:59] <LaserJock> eewww
[04:00] <imbrandon> heh
[04:00] <LaserJock> I just never did understand the point of drinking alchol when such nice things a mt dew and pepsi existed
[04:00] <imbrandon> s/pepsi/more\ mt\ dew/g
[04:00] <LaserJock> whatever
[04:00] <imbrandon> hehe
[04:00] <StevenK> LaserJock: But Pepsi is *vile*.
[04:00] <jsgotangco> we have a local concoction here called royal rumble, its fanta orange with rhum nasty stuff
[04:00] <bddebian> ugh
[04:00] <LaserJock> pepsi is one of God's greatest gifts to humanity
[04:01] <LaserJock> sorry StevenK, it's a know fact
[04:01] <LaserJock> smart people drink pepsi
[04:01] <LaserJock> ;-)
[04:01] <StevenK> Not in this house, it isn't.
[04:01] <imbrandon> jsgotangco: we drink that here too, and another called "float your boat" something with root beer and captian morgan ( spice rum ) , its GOOOD too
[04:01] <TheMuso> Hey Hobbsee.
[04:01] <Hobbsee> StevenK: i believe that killing is against the CoC :P
[04:01] <TheMuso> How is your day?
[04:01] <bddebian> Shit, I had prismstumbler building now it doesn't :-(
[04:02] <LaserJock> they thing for me is that all the alchoholic drinks try to be something else
[04:02] <StevenK> Hobbsee: Hrm.
[04:02] <LaserJock> my friend was like "Kahlua + milk is like chocolate milk"
[04:02] <LaserJock> and I'm like, "
[04:02] <LaserJock> "why not just drink chocolate milk?"
[04:02] <imbrandon> no drunkie after a few ;)
[04:03] <Yagisan> speaking of Gnger Beer, the Bundaberg stuff is good (real giner) buy the imitation stuff tastes like crap
[04:03] <LaserJock> hmm, not time for that, I"ve got Quantum Mechanics to study ;-)
[04:03] <TheMuso> Yagisan: Saxby's is nice too.
[04:03] <StevenK> Quantum mechanics hurts my head.
[04:04] <LaserJock> StevenK: yes, it hurt mine the first few times as well
[04:04] <LaserJock> you just have to stick with it ;-)
[04:04] <Hobbsee> pepsi is vile though.  diet pepsi, doubly so.
[04:04] <imbrandon> yea so is coke though too
[04:04] <bddebian> Diet anything is the work of Satan
[04:04] <imbrandon> mt dew > *
[04:05] <TheMuso> Go the soda water with cordial, or ginger beer I say!
[04:05] <jsgotangco> ugghh i hate ginger beer
[04:05] <imbrandon> man you all are gonna make me put a poll up for ubuntu devs/users on my blog about soda hehehe
[04:05] <TheMuso> IT doesn't bloat you nearly as much as soft drink like coke/pepsi
[04:05] <Yagisan> jsgotangco, you probally never had a real one then
[04:05] <LaserJock> pepsi > mt dew > dr pepper > everything else on the planet
[04:06] <TheMuso> Soda water with lime/lemon cordial/lemon barley water is beautiful, especially in summer.
[04:06] <jsgotangco> Yagisan: i had the one by blue tongue, it doesn't really jive welll with me but that's the only one i got
[04:06] <TheMuso> StevenK: So do I.
[04:06] <LaserJock> yikes, now there's 2
[04:06] <StevenK> Heh
[04:06] <imbrandon> lol
[04:06] <Hobbsee_> two?
[04:06] <TheMuso> hah
[04:06] <imbrandon> two you
[04:06] <Yagisan> jsgotangco, if I see you in Aus, remind me, and I'll get you a real one
[04:06] <Hobbsee_> what'd i miss?
[04:06] <LaserJock> now we are really in for a beating
[04:06] <StevenK> We're partiarly surrounded!
[04:07] <jsgotangco> i'll be in LCA
[04:07] <LaserJock> mhm
[04:07] <LaserJock> I just haven't warmed up to tea :-)
[04:07] <imbrandon> indian ( native american ) tea is great, best tea i've ever had
[04:07] <jsgotangco> the ones we have here now are gree tea ice filtered
[04:08] <TheMuso> Right. Lets try again to get a cat out of our yard that got stuck there two days ago. :)
[04:08] <TheMuso> bbs
[04:08] <Hobbsee> hhe
[04:08] <imbrandon> heh
[04:08] <Hobbsee> yay, a prac on how to write html.
[04:08] <StevenK> Hah
[04:08] <StevenK> I got one of them two weeks ago.
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[04:09] <Yagisan> I did an exam over the internet a few days ago o_O
[04:09] <LaserJock> seems odd to me
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[04:09] <LaserJock> I'd probably flunk
[04:09] <Hobbsee> next to....a powerpoint :D
[04:09] <Hobbsee> come on....
[04:09] <Hobbsee> !ping
[04:09] <jsgotangco> essay type lol
[04:09] <ubotu> pong
[04:10] <Yagisan> I thought I had died and gone to heaven
[04:10] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: if it's anything like the last quiz...very easy
[04:10] <StevenK> Yagisan: There is no latency in heaven.
[04:10] <imbrandon> heh
[04:11] <imbrandon> StevenK: i dunno the voyager1 is pretty close to what some would call heaven and an icmp ping takes 28+ hours to reply ;)
[04:11] <Yagisan> StevenK, it was wonderful. It like one big open-book exam
[04:11] <StevenK> Heh
[04:13] <Yagisan> StevenK, I'm looking forward to the next 2 exams too :) (I shall try and do it faster next time)
[04:20] <LaserJock> has anybody done a presentation via Impress on an Ubuntu laptop?
[04:21] <LaserJock> I've always used Powerpoint and Windows and I'd like to not have any suprises
[04:21] <jsgotangco> sure
[04:22] <jsgotangco> just make sure your video can actually be used with a projector
[04:22] <jsgotangco> some laptops can't do it
[04:22] <LaserJock> hmm, if it works with Windows should it?
[04:22] <jsgotangco> unless you reboot with the projector attached
[04:22] <jsgotangco> well its a video card issue
[04:22] <LaserJock> I've done it before with Windows
[04:23] <LaserJock> but I'd like to do it in Ubuntu
[04:23] <jsgotangco> who hasn't heh
[04:23] <LaserJock> since this will be at an Ubuntu conference
[04:23] <jsgotangco> its best to try it with a projector before the event
[04:23] <LaserJock> yeah
[04:23] <LaserJock> I should be able to get there early
[04:24] <jsgotangco> because mine doesn't just work if i plug in the projector
[04:24] <jsgotangco> unless i reboot
[04:25] <LaserJock> hmm
[04:25] <StevenK> jsgotangco: What laptop?
[04:25] <jsgotangco> Tecra M2 with Nvidia
[04:26] <StevenK> Free or restricted drivers?
[04:26] <jsgotangco> both doesn't work
[04:26] <StevenK> Interesting.
[04:26] <jsgotangco> yep mjg59 said its upstream
[04:26] <jsgotangco> i met on of the xandros people before with the same laptop and it frustrates him as well
[04:27] <StevenK> My Sony Vaio only spoke to a projector if I plugged it before booting.
[04:27] <LaserJock> hehe, I just crashed bug buddy ;-)
[04:27] <StevenK> LaserJock: I wonder if it respawns itself to report that bug.
[04:27] <LaserJock> kinda
[04:28] <jsgotangco> StevenK: you still get both displays?
[04:28] <LaserJock> it got a few things and then some force quits
[04:28] <StevenK> jsgotangco: From what I recall, yes.
[04:28] <jsgotangco> mine only displays on the projector and the lcd is blank
[04:28] <StevenK> jsgotangco: The Vaio in question died, and I bought an X40.
[04:28] <jsgotangco> it just works in X40 right?
[04:29] <StevenK> I haven't checked in Ubuntu, but I made it work under Debian.
[04:29] <jsgotangco> yeah its probably the most compatible unit you can find for linux generally
[04:29] <StevenK> Most of IBM laptops just work.
[04:35] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: how many slides do you do roughly for a 1 hr  presentation?
[04:36] <jsgotangco> 1 hour that;s a long time
[04:36] <jsgotangco> depends on your discussion
[04:36] <jsgotangco> the key is not to put everything on a slide
[04:36] <imbrandon> please tell me this is a joke https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/56125
[04:36] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56125 in apt "doesnt look like a cow" [Unknown,Unconfirmed] 
[04:36] <jsgotangco> we actually have a cow in apt
[04:36] <ajmitch> imbrandon: no, it's quite a serious bug
[04:36] <bddebian> apt has super cow powers
[04:36] <jsgotangco> but gentoo whips our arse
[04:37] <bddebian> Fsck Gentoo
[04:37] <jsgotangco> in the cow department
[04:37] <LaserJock> yeah, larry is awesome ;-)
[04:38] <jsgotangco> its worth confirming as a wishlist =)
[04:39] <imbrandon> brandon@voyager:~$ aptitude moo
[04:39] <imbrandon> There are no Easter Eggs in this program.
[04:39] <jsgotangco> heh
[04:39] <jsgotangco> wonder if smartpm has one
[04:39] <jsgotangco> :D
[04:39] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: mind taking a look at http://chem.unr.edu/~mantha/ubuntu/ubucon.odp and seeing if it looks retarded or not?
[04:40] <jsgotangco> ok
[04:40] <StevenK> imbrandon: Add a -v
[04:40] <jsgotangco> im honored to help a FOSS superstar like LaserJock
[04:40] <LaserJock> lol
[04:40] <LaserJock> whatever
[04:40] <imbrandon> StevenK: hahaha
[04:40] <imbrandon> brandon@voyager:~$ aptitude -v moo
[04:40] <imbrandon> There really are no Easter Eggs in this program.
[04:41] <jsgotangco> haha
[04:41] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: keep adding more -v's
[04:41] <StevenK> imbrandon: Keep adding -v
[04:41] <jsgotangco> bwahahaha
[04:41] <LaserJock> oh man, we are geeks
[04:41] <LaserJock> :-)
[04:41] <imbrandon> hahahahahaha
[04:41] <jsgotangco> hahahahaa
[04:41] <imbrandon> too cool
[04:41] <StevenK> steven@liquified:~% for i in "" -v -vv -vvv -vvvv -vvvvv -vvvvvv ; do aptitude $i moo ; done
[04:41] <jsgotangco> wth is that?
[04:41] <StevenK> ....
[04:42] <ajmitch> too often projectors are an issue - we had quite a few problems at LCA this year
[04:42] <imbrandon> brandon@voyager:~$ aptitude -vvvvvv moo
[04:42] <StevenK> jsgotangco: Add another -v
[04:42] <imbrandon> What is it?  It's an elephant being eaten by a snake, of course.
[04:42] <jsgotangco> an elephant eaten by a snake
[04:42] <jsgotangco> heh
[04:43] <imbrandon> someone had too much time on their hands
[04:43] <Yagisan> nice :)
[04:43] <Yagisan> people are looking at me odd because i laughed at that
[04:43] <Hobbsee> StevenK: dont remind me of the assignment i'm supposed to be writing
[04:43] <imbrandon> haha
[04:43] <jsgotangco> LaserJock: i guess the best presentation on inviting people to participate in Ubuntu is share your experiences as well
[04:44] <jsgotangco> LaserJock: the slides are ok, but adding a personal touch makes wonders
[04:44] <Yagisan> Hobbsee, I've an assignment due tommorow. I should start it today
[04:44] <jsgotangco> stuff that people don't normally read on the websites
[04:44] <Hobbsee> hah
[04:44] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: yeah, I kinda planned on a doing a little more with the MOTU part and a little about why I was talking in the first place
[04:44] <jsgotangco> yeah
[04:44] <Hobbsee> StevenK: what happened then?
[04:44] <jsgotangco> add pictures of yourself during paris
[04:45] <ajmitch> StevenK: scary place?
[04:45] <jsgotangco> to make things interesting
[04:45] <StevenK> Oh, I didn't think people were interested. :-)
[04:45] <LaserJock> hehe, yeah
[04:45] <StevenK> Um, ajmitch and I talked for a while, and I started doing universe merges.
[04:45] <jsgotangco> that we're not all about doing gdb but talkign about moonshine and ethanol as well
[04:45] <StevenK> And easter eggs.
[04:46] <jsgotangco> a lot of slides in guadec focused on people having fun
[04:46] <Yagisan> I think I first came here *after* i turned up unannounced at UDU
[04:46] <ajmitch> but that's no surprise
[04:46] <ajmitch> irc is one long blur
[04:46] <jsgotangco> LaserJock: like eating raw beef
[04:46] <StevenK> "IRC is just one long line of text"
[04:46] <LaserJock> hehe, I think the first time I came to -motu bddebian and bmonty were hard at work getting Breezy out the door
[04:47] <Hobbsee> nwo come on....it's thursday lunch time....where are the freaking tutes????????????????
[04:47] <Hobbsee> it's surely not *that* hard to put them up more than 4 days before they're due!
[04:47] <StevenK> That's the challenge.
[04:47] <StevenK> You need to find them and then do them.
[04:47] <Hobbsee> my uni is bloody incompetent.
[04:48] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: that's the way of university life
[04:48] <StevenK> It's a feature.
[04:48] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: you don't think the logos are weird? I kinda wanted to give it a community feel
[04:48] <ajmitch> just like launchpad is one big collection of features
[04:48] <jsgotangco> well
[04:48] <Hobbsee> hah
[04:49] <jsgotangco> LaserJock: let's just say art isnt your biggest strength, but then again, clean slides are much easier on the eyes for the audience instead of thiking of adding palettes
[04:49] <jsgotangco> ;D
[04:49] <LaserJock> doh
[04:49] <bddebian> LaserJock: Pshaw, I'm never hard at work ;-P
[04:49] <LaserJock> :-)
[04:49] <jsgotangco> because when you pipe your laptop to a projector, the palette will look different
[04:50] <bddebian> Yeah, yeah, I know ajmitch
[04:50] <LaserJock> well, I'm used to science presentations where you get a white background, black text, and equations
[04:50] <jsgotangco> yeah
[04:50] <LaserJock> I saw a few presentations on the wiki but they seemed hard to read
[04:50] <jsgotangco> also make sure your final slides have all formats
[04:50] <jsgotangco> odp, ppt, pdf
[04:51] <jsgotangco> just in case you are forced to use another guy's laptop
[04:51] <LaserJock> mmm, good point
[04:51] <LaserJock> I was going to do dop and ppt
[04:51] <LaserJock> odp
[04:51] <jsgotangco> dont forget ppt
[04:51] <LaserJock> but pdf is good too
[04:51] <LaserJock> I"m not used to being able to make pdf's so easy ;-)
[04:51] <jsgotangco> i know its strange to use it on a FOSS conference but things happen
[04:52] <LaserJock> yeah, I know that about conferences
[04:52] <jsgotangco> when i was in seoul, i couldn't use my laptop we had to use one running windows that didnt have office
[04:52] <jsgotangco> but had acrobat reader
[04:52] <jsgotangco> good thing i made a pdf
[04:53] <ajmitch> yes, never rely on being able to use your own laptop
[04:54] <LaserJock> well, I'm used to having to print out transparencies
[04:54] <LaserJock> there's nothing like a good wet-erase talk by a nobel prize winner ;-)
[04:55] <jsgotangco> well thats the extreme option
[04:55] <jsgotangco> but generally having the 3 formats on had on a keyfob will work
[04:56] <ajmitch> LaserJock: when are you getting your nobel prize?
[04:56] <LaserJock> years from now
[04:56] <LaserJock> most Nobel prizes get awarded like 20 years after the work has been done
[04:56] <ajmitch> at least we can say that we knew you when you were slacking off with ubuntu :)
[04:56] <LaserJock> so I've got a little while to wait ;-)
[04:56] <bddebian> hehe
[04:57] <LaserJock> well, nobel prizes are cool, but you sure don't get much money anymore
[04:57] <LaserJock> you get USD$1 million
[04:57] <LaserJock> but if more than one person gets the prize (which happens a lot) you have to split it
[04:58] <jsgotangco> at least you get to be on the history books
[04:58] <ajmitch> the money probably isn't meant to be the main benefit now
[04:58] <LaserJock> yes, that's the real fun
[04:58] <LaserJock> and you get to go around giving presentations with wet-erase markers
[04:58] <LaserJock> and everybody loves it
[04:58] <ajmitch> bddebian: ?
[05:00] <bddebian> ajmitch: I'm getting my arse kicked by a stupid little package
[05:00] <ajmitch> right
[05:00] <bddebian> Should configure be called before or after patch
[05:00] <ajmitch> so fix the package
[05:00] <ajmitch> depends what you're patching - generally after
[05:00] <bddebian> Thx
[05:00] <ajmitch> up to you, really
[05:02] <Hobbsee> TheMuso: yay :)
[05:02] <Hobbsee> TheMuso: di dyou succeed?
[05:03] <bddebian> You mean you don't have them all done YET? ;-P
[05:03] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: leave some for the rest of us poor people who struggle along with stuff
[05:03] <LaserJock> yeah
[05:03] <bddebian> Yeah, I haven't done any yet.. :-)
[05:05] <Hobbsee> hah
[05:05] <Hobbsee> get going, bddebian
[05:05] <bddebian> Nah, I'm useless
[05:05] <LaserJock> if I ever get to do MOTU work again I'll want some decent merges to do ;-)
[05:05] <ajmitch> bddebian: weren't you told that it's bad to lie?
[05:06] <bddebian> ajmitch: What am I lying about? :-)
[05:06] <Hobbsee> yay.  something broke on LP
[05:06] <LaserJock> Hobbsee: hmmm, how about doing a MOTU School session? or are you busy with uni stuff?
[05:06] <ajmitch> wow, there's a surprise
[05:06] <Hobbsee> !ping
[05:06] <ubotu> pong
[05:06] <ajmitch> yes, teach us, Hobbsee
[05:06] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: busy with uni stuff, and i wouldnt make a good teacher with that sort of stuff
[05:07] <bddebian> w00t, frickin' A
[05:07] <LaserJock> Hobbsee: well you don't have to teach ajmitch, just people like me
[05:07] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: you're funny
[05:07] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:07] <LaserJock> but if your'e busy I'll let you go, this time
[05:08] <Hobbsee> yay.  LP really did break.
[05:08] <LaserJock> I need somebody to teach me CDBS
[05:08] <bddebian> Don't we all? ;-P
[05:08] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: i am rather, at the moment.  what would it be on?
[05:08] <ajmitch> LaserJock: good luck finding someone to teach that
[05:08] <welshbyte> i don't even know what CDBS stands for :/
[05:08] <Hobbsee> hah
[05:08] <bddebian> Common Debian Build System
[05:08] <bddebian> I think
[05:09] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: sure i cant teach yada?
[05:09] <welshbyte> now i do :)
[05:09] <ajmitch> LaserJock: hobbsee has patched cdbs in the past, get her to teach it
[05:09] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: you merged it.
[05:09] <LaserJock> ajmitch: that was my point ;-)
[05:09] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: you should do it.
[05:09] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: never
[05:09] <ajmitch> do you see any uploads by me?
[05:09] <LaserJock> actually, we need crappy timezones
[05:09] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: nope.  i'll teach yada :P
[05:09] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: that shall be an easy lesson
[05:09] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: true, no
[05:10] <Hobbsee> didnt look
[05:10] <ajmitch> do you see any packages of mine that actually use cdbs?
[05:10] <Hobbsee> havent looked at them either
[05:10] <ajmitch> you do that, bddebian
[05:10] <bddebian> welshbyte: ;-)
[05:11] <ajmitch> welshbyte: depends on what sort of bar it is
[05:11] <Hobbsee> hah
[05:11] <welshbyte> hehe
[05:12] <LaserJock> it might work at a Debian bar
[05:12] <welshbyte> unfortunately there aren't any bars in this city where that line would work :(
[05:12] <ajmitch> LaserJock: we have our LUG meetings in a bar
[05:13] <LaserJock> hmmm
[05:13] <LaserJock> mine starts at an ISP and ends in a bar
[05:13] <ajmitch> heh
[05:13] <bddebian> mine starts at home and ends at home :-)
[05:14] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: you're bad enough sober :)
[05:14] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: hah
[05:14] <Hobbsee> say that again....
[05:14] <ajmitch> it would be funny though
[05:14] <Hobbsee> indeed
[05:14] <ajmitch> that's ok, you're not in NZ
[05:14] <Hobbsee> maybe i'll have to get drunk at StevenK's or something.
[05:14] <ajmitch> hah
[05:14] <LaserJock> I'd love to see a video of a drunk Hobbsee
[05:14] <ajmitch> poor StevenK
[05:15] <LaserJock> I bet she gets giggley
[05:15] <Hobbsee> like i dont anyway :P
[05:15] <ajmitch> LaserJock: she's giggly enough as it is
[05:16] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: now be fair.  you have seen me non-giggly, too
[05:16] <ajmitch> true
[05:16] <ajmitch> though you were driving
[05:16] <ajmitch> and that scares me, the thought of you driving through sydney while drunk
[05:16] <Hobbsee> just think...you were in the car with me a lot...
[05:16] <Hobbsee> !ping
[05:16] <ubotu> pong
[05:17] <ajmitch> stop abusing the poor bot
[05:17] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: haha
[05:17] <ajmitch> you mean a connection via a dodgy uni?
[05:19] <LaserJock> hmm, is ubuntu-bugsquad LP team still used?
[05:19] <LaserJock> or is it just ubuntu-qa
[05:19] <Hobbsee> i more meant that i'm at uni, and have a dodgy connection
[05:19] <ajmitch> bugsquad is still there, not sure what practical use it has
[05:19] <Hobbsee> boo
[05:20] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: i think it is for meetings, and for a place to subscribe bugs
[05:21] <imbrandon> oh i wish i would win the lottery
[05:21] <imbrandon> lol
[05:21] <LaserJock> hehe, make sure you don't get sucked into the dark side why you are doing it
[05:22] <LaserJock> imbrandon: hmmm, and you lived in Reno, right? ;-)
[05:22] <imbrandon> nooooo Hobbsee put the gtk program down ......
[05:22] <imbrandon> LaserJock: yup
[05:22] <imbrandon> lol
[05:22] <Hobbsee> haha
[05:22] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: yeah, no danger of that
[05:22] <Hobbsee> i'd only need to get 175MB of archives, too...
[05:23] <LaserJock> heh, well I installed kubuntu today
[05:23] <imbrandon> ;) welcome to the light LaserJock
[05:23] <LaserJock> and then edubuntu-desktop
[05:23] <welshbyte> bah i didn't realise inheriting an open source project would be so much work.. and i haven't even started coding yet
[05:24] <LaserJock> hahahahaha
[05:24] <imbrandon> heh i might put edubuntu on box here to ltsp into it from my lappy just too see how it works
[05:24] <LaserJock> welcome to our world, welshbyte ... mwhuauauaua
[05:24] <welshbyte> hehe
[05:24] <LaserJock> imbrandon: ogra brought a thin client to Paris with him, it was pretty cool
[05:24] <TheMuso> Hobbsee: Unfortunately not.
[05:25] <LaserJock> we set it up with highvoltage's laptop as the server
[05:25] <welshbyte> just setting up the web pages and trac/svn how i want them *sweat*
[05:25] <imbrandon> you i just realized that the DD that agreed to review apt-mirror on mentors.d.n idles in here ;) hehe ( even though i've never seen him speak )
[05:25] <bddebian> Anyone here use prismstumbler?
[05:25] <imbrandon> s/you/you\ know/
[05:26] <LaserJock> hmmm
[05:26] <imbrandon> LaserJock: nice
[05:27] <imbrandon> he i dont know if he wants to be pingd or not , but its not hard to figure out i would imagine ( and no not ajmitch becouse like i said i've never seen this person talk in here )
[05:27] <imbrandon> just idle
[05:28] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: is a good target, looking for  DD>
[05:28] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: who, StevenK ?
[05:28] <bddebian> StevenK is a DD?
[05:28] <Hobbsee> yeah
[05:29] <Hobbsee> i think so
[05:29] <ajmitch> bddebian: what do you think?
[05:29] <bddebian> Hobbsee: traitor
[05:29] <Hobbsee> guess there's not much point on this uni connection.
[05:29] <bddebian> ajmitch: My opinion means nothing
[05:29] <ajmitch> imbrandon: there are a number of DDs to lurk here
[05:30] <bddebian> azeem is a DD but don't know if he's around or not
[05:30] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: *are* we still here?
[05:30] <Hobbsee> do we want to still be here?
[05:30] <TheMuso> Where is here?
[05:30] <ajmitch> imbrandon: I count at least 8 DDs currently in the channel
[05:30] <ajmitch> there are probably more
[05:31] <imbrandon> with DD cloaks ?
[05:31] <Hobbsee> TheMuso: a guy is asking in #ubuntu+1 if either of us are here
[05:31] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: no
[05:32] <TheMuso> I see it.
[05:33] <LaserJock> odd
[05:33] <ajmitch> LaserJock: yes?
[05:33] <LaserJock> somebody wants to know if Hobbsee or ajmitch is there?
[05:34] <imbrandon> Hobbsee , ajmitch : you all arround ? hehehe
[05:36] <imbrandon> ugh , i'm getting tired of kmail , anyone got a sugestion for a GRAPHICAL email client they prefer ? i need to try something new
[05:36] <imbrandon> maybe evolution
[05:36] <TheMuso> What about mutt?
[05:36] <Hobbsee> hah.  i'm definetly not there then
[05:36] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: thunderbird's not too bad
[05:37] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: thunderbird likes to eat my imap mail for some reason
[05:37] <imbrandon> 'kmail just isnt stable
[05:37] <TheMuso> Use something like offlineimap then.
[05:37] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: ahh...
[05:37] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: yeah, exactly
[05:37] <imbrandon> mutt/pine is console and i'd prefer not to use a console email app
[05:38] <LaserJock> imbrandon: really, evo always eats my imap
[05:38] <LaserJock> thunderbird usually handles it fine
[05:39] <imbrandon> TheMuso: well i have a semi complicated setup as is, all my mail forwards to a gmail account then i grab it on the file server via fetchmail and use procmail to filter it into folders and connect to my local fileserver via courior imap
[05:39] <TheMuso> eeeeeeeeeeeeeew
[05:40] <imbrandon> best way i've found for me to get my mail anywhere from all my accounts without using a webmail interface ;)
[05:40] <welshbyte> i use thunderbird with a *lot* of config tweaks to get it close to how i want it
[05:41] <LaserJock> I just use whatever's handy
[05:41] <imbrandon> welshbyte: then i would have to tweak the config on every system i use here at home , i like to do all the configs ( main ones ) server side so i can use virtualy any client
[05:41] <imbrandon> but alas i havent found a client i like heh
[05:41] <imbrandon> although mail.app is nice but osx only heh
[05:41] <LaserJock> I still use thunderbird on OS X
[05:42] <LaserJock> mail.app is nice but it chokes on my imap at school
[05:42] <imbrandon> i use ff but not tb
[05:42] <imbrandon> yea mail.app chokes on large accounts
[05:42] <imbrandon> it seems
[05:42] <LaserJock> I even tried MS Entourage or however it is spelled
[05:42] <welshbyte> oh i usually just scp the prefs.js to any new setups i have
[05:43] <imbrandon> welshbyte: thats a pita heh i used to do that, i even had a .thunderbird maped via nfs too and tried that way, simplest to do the tweaks via procmail
[05:43] <Hobbsee> gah.
[05:44] <imbrandon> plus one good thing about that is i can ssh into my home box when i'm on the road and use mutt is i HAVE to
[05:44] <imbrandon> s/is/if
[05:45] <Hobbsee> is this still the email discussion?
[05:45] <welshbyte> imbrandon: yeah i use procmail serverside for the email filtering stuff too, but i tweak the thunderbird prefs to get it to use plain text everywhere, insert the right "on foo, bar said:" line and lots of other stuff
[05:45] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: nope talking about quantom physics
[05:46] <Hobbsee> ah right
[05:46] <LaserJock> imbrandon: oh goodie
[05:46] <Hobbsee> hah
[05:46] <LaserJock> I was hoping for that
[05:46] <Hobbsee> you should have known better to mention such thigns with LaserJock around.
[05:46] <imbrandon> if evolution was avail in osx it would be nice, i wonder if its in fink
[05:46] <LaserJock> did you know that everything about an atom is described by an imaginary equation?
[05:47] <imbrandon> LaserJock: yup pretty much
[05:47] <imbrandon> LaserJock: have you ever read God Debris ?
[05:47] <LaserJock> everything there is to know about a molecule is described by a non-real wave
[05:47] <imbrandon> its fiction but very well thought out story touching such things
[05:47] <LaserJock> hmm, no
[05:47] <LaserJock> I'll have to look it up
[05:48] <imbrandon> its a free book ( pdf ) from the author of dilbert, you can read it all in one evening
[05:48] <imbrandon> but dosent have anything remotely to do with dilbert
[05:48] <imbrandon> heh
[05:48] <LaserJock> and oddly many problems in Quatum Mechanics take pages and pages to write out and end up with = pi/2
[05:48] <imbrandon> lol
[05:49] <LaserJock> and much of the math is totally "hand waving" as we call it
[05:49] <LaserJock> but in the end it works out and the universe is preserved, phew
[05:49] <imbrandon> yea there are 99.9999999% unknowns used in quantom stuff
[05:49] <imbrandon> lol
[05:50] <imbrandon> you ever read the book "timeline" ? not the movie
[05:50] <imbrandon> it has some very cool "based on real" fiction too
[05:50] <imbrandon> about quantom stuff
[05:51] <welshbyte> *hand wave* light does travel as discrete packets of energy... these aren't the droids you're looking for
[05:51] <LaserJock> and matter really is a wave, it just doesn't look like it ;-)
[05:51] <imbrandon> its by michael creighton ( sp ? )
[05:51] <welshbyte> crichton, i believe
[05:51] <imbrandon> yea
[05:52] <LaserJock> hmm
[05:52] <LaserJock> another weird thing in quantum physics, to me anyway, is time reversal symmetry
[05:52] <imbrandon> y?
[05:53] <imbrandon> err like ?
[05:53] <Hobbsee> screen -R
[05:53] <Hobbsee> oops
[05:53] <LaserJock> well, in the math used for quantum mechanics you have to look carefully at the symmetry of the equations
[05:53] <LaserJock> like if you replace x with -x do you get the same thing?
[05:54] <LaserJock> well, time is a funny thing
[05:54] <LaserJock> it isn't symmetric
[05:54] <bddebian> Anyone have a suggestion for what .desktop categories prismstumbler would belong to?
[05:54] <bddebian>  Network;Utility ?
[05:55] <imbrandon> yea time is messy
[05:56] <imbrandon> hard to explain it with math ( leaste in terms i can semi comprehend )
[05:56] <imbrandon> bddebian: i would say so
[05:56] <imbrandon> bddebian: look what cate kismet is in , i would stick it in the same category
[05:56] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: some people like to complain about lack of docs, don't they?
[05:56] <bddebian> thx imbrandon
[05:58] <bddebian> imbrandon: It doesn't have any :-)
[05:58] <imbrandon> LaserJock: http://www.andrewsmcmeel.com/godsdebris/  <-- theres the link , very light ~150 pages or so, like i said its short but will make you think more about some of einsteins theorys and quantom stuff, well really look at it diffrent
[05:59] <imbrandon> bddebian: ouch hrm well yea network:utils would be a good place
[05:59] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: that they do
[06:00] <imbrandon> dont worry the name is misleading its not about God or religon though ;)
[06:02] <LaserJock> imbrandon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_reversal for some light reading ;-)
[06:02] <imbrandon> cool , kk
[06:05] <LaserJock> imbrandon: actually maybe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_of_time is an easier read
[06:12] <imbrandon> crazy
[06:13] <ajmitch> imbrandon: correct
[06:13] <Hobbsee> (die hobbsee, die!)
[06:13] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: you didn't know infinity was in .au?
[06:14] <TheMuso> Hobbsee: You should have. :p
[06:14] <bddebian> What permissions should dpatch files have?
[06:15] <Hobbsee> i vaguely knew
[06:15] <Hobbsee> TheMuso: heh, never met him
[06:15] <bddebian> Well dx has 0755 but I just made two for prismstumbler and pbuilder is complaining about them having 0755
[06:22] <TheMuso> Its nice to see that launchpad plays a doesn't chuck some weird error message with elinks any more.
[06:22] <TheMuso> Used to get very annoying.
[06:22] <bddebian> Oh crap, that's not my problem, I get this:
[06:22] <bddebian> ./configure --prefix=/usr
[06:22] <bddebian> make: execvp: ./configure: Permission denied
[06:22] <bddebian> make: *** [configure]  Error 127
[06:23] <imbrandon> heh
[06:23] <bddebian> heh?
[06:24] <bddebian> I didn't get that until I added my dpatches :-(
[06:25] <Laser_away> ok, the wife is waiting with the car, good night MOTU land
[06:25] <ajmitch> night
[06:25] <bddebian> Gnight Laser_away
[06:25] <bddebian> ajmitch: Any suggestions? ^^
[06:32] <bddebian> Anyone?
[06:34] <hub> bddebian: are you sure that configure is runing the right shell
[06:34] <hub> bddebian: or is +x
[06:35] <bddebian> It was fine until I added two patches
[06:42] <Hobbsee> bddebian: you're not supposed to break things...
[06:44] <bddebian> It doesn't make any sense
[06:48] <tritium> hey bddebian
[06:48] <bddebian> Heya tritium
[06:49] <tritium> bddebian: anything new on the mythtv front?
[06:49] <bddebian> tritium: I have requested a sync of 0.19 from Debian Multimedia
[06:49] <tritium> bddebian: ooh, fantastic
[06:54] <tritium> bddebian: debian-multimedia is the new marillat repo name?
[06:55] <bddebian> Aye
[06:55] <tritium> Cool
[06:59] <tritium> bddebian: hopefully that will happen, then.  Even backporting that to dapper would be a good thing
[06:59] <welshbyte> eep it's getting light
[06:59] <welshbyte> bed time
[07:00] <bddebian> Aye
[07:21] <bddebian> Gah, I give up.  Gnight folks
[07:26] <imbrandon> gnight folks its time for bed
[08:39] <ajmitch> nice
[08:39] <ajmitch> someone broke soyuz well, it's spammed edgy-changes nicely
[08:42] <StevenK> Nice!
[08:43] <StevenK> doko's upload for glib-java seems to be the first.
[09:14] <Seveas> ajmitch, StevenK: urgh indeed -- we now get source AND binary upload mails
[09:18] <StevenK> Do we have to?
[09:54] <imbrandon> hrm whats up with edgy-changes showing all the diffrent arches for uploads now
[10:24] <Toadstool> 'morning everybody
[10:49] <StevenK> imbrandon: Yes, I wish it would stop.
[12:09] <asimon> I wonder if revu.tauware.de is operational. I uploaded two packages yesterday but they didn't appear in the list. When I try to recover my password I get a python backtrace (global name 'REVUBASE' is not defined). I suppose something went wrong.
[12:10] <ajmitch> asimon: before uploading, were you in the ubuntu-universe-contributors team on launchpad, and after joining, did you ask for the keyring to be resynced on revu?
[12:11] <asimon> ajmitch: Yes I am in the contributers group. I added a gpg key to my launchpad accound. What do I need to do to get the keyring on revu synced?
[12:11] <ajmitch> you need to ask a revu admin to do it, before you upload
[12:12] <asimon> ajmitch: Okay, thank you very much.
[12:14] <ajmitch> asimon: what were the packages you uploaded?
[12:14] <asimon> It looks like the part of asking for the keyring to be synced is missing on wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU  ;-)
[12:15] <asimon> ajmitch: gtk2-engines-qtcurve_0.41.1-0ubuntu1  and  kde-style-qtcurve_0.41.1-0ubuntu1
[12:16] <ajmitch> ok, packages should be listed now
[12:16] <asimon> ajmitch: Great, thank you.
[12:27] <siretart> asimon: where did you get the error about 'REVUBASE'?
[12:28] <asimon> siretart: When I click 'recover' to recover the password, i.e.  http://revu.tauware.de/lostpw.py?email=andreas.w.simon@gmail.com
[12:29] <asimon> siretart: See also here for the backtrace: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20862
[12:35] <siretart> asimon: ok. lostpw.py is seriously fucked up. need to investigate that
[12:37] <asimon> siretart: Yes, such things happen ;-)
[12:37] <siretart> asimon: thanks for reporting anyway
[12:38] <asimon> siretart: you're welcome
[01:14] <tepsipakki> preview-latex should be deleted from edgy, auctex replaces it now (and conflicts with it)
[01:16] <tepsipakki> does motu-powers suffice to do that?-)
[01:22] <tepsipakki> ok, filed a bug about it
[01:30] <geser> hi
[01:30] <geser> is here someone familiar with gcj?
[01:31] <geser> I tried to rebuild pdftk against libgcj7-0 and it failed at the linking stage
[01:31] <geser> a log is attached to bug 56580
[01:31] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56580 in pdftk "[Edgy]  Please rebuild against libgcj7-0" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/56580
[03:07] <TheMuso> Hey Hobbsee.
[03:07] <Hobbsee> hi TheMuso
[03:14] <ajmitch> hello TheMuso, Hobbsee
[03:15] <TheMuso> Hey ajmitch.
[03:15] <Hobbsee> hi ajmitch
[03:15] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: debsign -r looks cool :)
[03:15] <TheMuso> Night folks.
[03:15] <Hobbsee> night TheMuso
[04:23] <Hobbsee> asimon: please turn off the away messages
[04:24] <zul> but how do we know if he is truely away :)
[04:24] <Hobbsee> zul: hah
[04:25] <StevenK> Hobbsee: Aren't you supposed to tell him that in a kick reason? :-P
[04:25] <Hobbsee> StevenK: i did think of that.  in both channels.
[04:26] <Hobbsee> make that in all three
[04:37] <bddebian> Heya gang
[04:37] <Gloubiboulga> heya bddebian :)
[04:39] <bddebian> Hi Gloubiboulga
[05:29] <Gloubiboulga> siretart, hello, are you around?
[05:30] <siretart> Gloubiboulga: yes, but busy
[05:31] <Gloubiboulga> siretart, ok, I have a Permission issue on tiber, but it's not urgent
[05:31] <bddebian> siretart!!
[05:31] <siretart> Gloubiboulga: please /query me the issue
[05:31] <siretart> huhu bddebian
[05:32] <bddebian> siretart: Hey, can I hack up the MOTUGames page a little?  For example the GL/GLU translations link should be dropped.
[05:32] <siretart> bddebian: just go on! i didn't have time lately to do anything on MOTUGames (besides fixing scorched3d)
[05:32] <bddebian> I've been trying but failing as usual :-(
[05:34] <siretart> scorched3d should be in quite reasonable state now. It still segfaults on amd64 on exit and with bird sound enabled
[05:35] <bddebian> OK, this error is still killing me.. :-(
[05:35] <bddebian> ./configure --prefix=/usr
[05:35] <bddebian> make: execvp: ./configure: Permission denied
[05:35] <bddebian> make: *** [configure]  Error 127
[05:35] <siretart> bddebian: chmod +x configure
[05:35] <bddebian> It is 0755 already
[05:35] <Kyral_Laptop> hmm I should start coding again
[05:35] <siretart> ro filesystem perhaps?
[05:36] <bddebian> In pbuilder
[05:36] <bddebian> ?
[05:48] <zul> i just thought of something when you enter a username in the installer what if you choose root what would happen?
[08:26] <josesanch> hello
[08:26] <josesanch> i have uploaded a new version of gnomecatalog http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1560 a couple of times.
[08:27] <josesanch> But the new versions is not in motu
[08:28] <bddebian> josesanch: Have you fixed the issues raphink commented on?
[08:28] <josesanch> yes..
[08:29] <josesanch> the problem is that i did a dput. Everything seens ok. But the new version is not there
[08:35] <josesanch> bbdebian: do you know why?
[08:35] <bddebian> josesanch: Oh, sorry.  No, you need to ping a REVU admin.
[08:36] <josesanch> by e-mail?
[08:37] <josesanch> ok.. i'm going to search in wiki
[08:37] <bddebian> josesanch: No, usually there are some around
[08:38] <josesanch> ahh.. ok.. I'll wait
[08:38] <josesanch> bddebian: thanks a lot
[08:39] <bddebian> siretart: Still around?
[09:40] <welshbyte> good evening
[09:45] <bddebian> Heya welshbyte
[09:54] <lfittl> Lathiat: ping
[09:55] <AnAnt_> I was wondering why didn't u guys try mutt-ng since it is on debian
[09:59] <lfittl> siretart: ping
[10:00] <welshbyte> AnAnt_: looks like mutt-ng is in debian experimental... ubuntu gets its debian packages from debian unstable
[10:00] <AnAnt_> welshbyte: ic
[10:00] <AnAnt_> thanks
[10:11] <micahcowan> There is a user having trouble with a particular program (tuxpaint) on a particular printer (Brother HL 2700CN). I have a few ideas as to how this might be fixed, but as I don't have that printer, I'd need the bug reporter to check them out. What is the approved way to do this? Should I give them a debdiff, and tell them how to build a .deb from it, or is it permissible to give them a .deb in their architecture, and ask them to install it (possibl
[10:11] <micahcowan> y trusting me not to do something nasty while my .deb's install gets root...)?
[10:12] <AnAnt_> bddebian: you there ?
[10:12] <bddebian> Yessir
[10:13] <AnAnt_> bddebian: I just checked your comment on kchmviewer
[10:14] <AnAnt_> bddebian: I don't understand  what should I do regarding that ?
[10:14] <bddebian> AnAnt_: the version?
[10:15] <AnAnt_> bddebian: yes
[10:15] <AnAnt_> bddebian: it is version 2.6
[10:16] <AnAnt_> bddebian: and that raises another question too
[10:17] <AnAnt_> bddebian: I added a package (that doesn't exist on debian) called acon, which is to enable reading/writing arabic in virtual console. So does its NON-existance in debian make a problem ?
[10:18] <bddebian> AnAnt_: I think I commented on that too :-)
[10:19] <AnAnt_> oh you want me to just change the version names, I didn't realize that
[10:19] <AnAnt_> ok, that's it ?
[10:20] <bddebian> AnAnt_: No it's not a problem.  But if the version is newer in Ubuntu or it doesn't existing in Debian, the release number should be -0ubuntu1
[10:20] <AnAnt_> other than that, the acon & kchmviewer are fine ?
[10:20] <bddebian> That way if it does get to debian and they make foo 1.0.1-1 we can sync it :-)
[10:21] <AnAnt_> other than that, the acon & kchmviewer are fine ?
[10:29] <bddebian> kchmviewer yes.  Acon, you don't need the entire GPL text in debian/copyright. Other than that and the version, it looks OK to me.
[10:29] <AnAnt_> well, so what do I put in debian/copyright ?
[10:29] <Laser_away> micahcowan: did you get your question answered?
[10:30] <micahcowan> Not yet... :(
[10:30] <Laser_away> micahcowan: sure, send them a .deb
[10:32] <Toadstool> heya folks
[10:33] <AnAnt_> ok, I found an example
[10:34] <welshbyte> hm i might need a reminder here
[10:35] <welshbyte> i have a package that isn't in debian and i'm packaging it. it's currently version 0.4.2 ... does it go to 0.4.2-0ubuntu1 ?
[10:35] <crimsun> (yes)
[10:35] <bddebian> AnAnt_: Oh.. If you want more info, you can also read this page in the licensing section: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Reviewing
[10:35] <bddebian> welshbyte: Yes
[10:35] <welshbyte> woo i got it right :)
[10:37] <AnAnt_> bddebian: ok, I just uploaded them now
[10:37] <bddebian> AnAnt_: I'm at work now but I'll try to check tonight.  Of course we still need a second reviewer too :-)
[10:37] <AnAnt_> is there something wrong with the password recovery on REVU ?
[10:38] <bddebian> That I don't know
[10:38] <bddebian> sorry
[10:39] <LaserJock> AnAnt_: at times
[10:39] <LaserJock> it's always worked for me
[10:39] <LaserJock> but other people have reported it just coming up empty
[10:39] <AnAnt_> yup, that's what happened
[10:48] <AnAnt> is there a way to build several .dsc files in the same pbuilder command (to avoid delay of unpacking pbuilder environment for every package) ?
[10:50] <LaserJock> well, you unpack the pbuilder to keep it clean
[10:51] <AnAnt> LaserJock: btw, what browser are you using ?
[10:51] <AnAnt> I tried lynx & elinks, both failed in password recovery
[10:51] <LaserJock> right now?
[10:51] <LaserJock> firefox
[10:52] <AnAnt> ok
[10:53] <AnAnt> sometimes it gives my a python error !
[10:54] <AnAnt> well, anyways, thanks for the help