[12:10] <solus_> so, the next question, the usbs, those ive known that i would have to do something to get to work since i installed kubuntu, but i really dont know enough about linux yet to understand the ocumentation on that
[12:10] <swatgoss> solus_ do you searched the USb controler on your laptop ?
[12:10] <solus_> yes, you can, go into system settings/appearance/fonts
[12:10] <kyle_> wow
[12:11] <kyle_> synaptic cool
[12:11] <kyle_> deatils
[12:11] <swatgoss> oh no not system mess from linux just in IRC :p
[12:11] <solus_> usb controller
[12:11] <swatgoss> texas instrument ...
[12:11] <swatgoss> smthing like that
[12:11] <swatgoss> realtek ?
[12:11] <solus_> how do i search for it in linux
[12:11] <solus_> i think its realtek
[12:11] <solus_> that sounds mroe familiar
[12:12] <kyle_> ok so synaptic is just a pakcage manager?
[12:12] <swatgoss> uhu, try google :p
[12:12] <solus_> there is no TI anything on here
[12:12] <kyle_> does it download packages?
[12:12] <solus_> yes, kyle
[12:12] <kyle_> ok i searched wine and saw it but it's empty
[12:12] <swatgoss> kyle_ do the same work as adept
[12:12] <kyle_> brb
[12:12] <swatgoss> solus_ look on google ?
[12:13] <swatgoss> you will have more chance to find something ionteresting than in linux if i try to make u search it :p
[12:13] <solus_> actualy, looking on hps site, waiting for the page to load
[12:14] <swatgoss> solus_ do your pages loading is longer than Windows ones ?
[12:15] <swatgoss> solus_ i just deactivated ipv6 on my kubuntu and now it work at least 4x faster
[12:15] <whizz-> can i safely delete syslog.x.gz files in /var/log ?
[12:15] <h3sp4wn> whizz-: yes
[12:16] <kyle_> ok
[12:16] <kyle_> help
[12:16] <kyle_> i can't get wine
[12:16] <solus_> swatgoss: yes, tis realtek
[12:16] <kyle_> only options i have are reload / mark all upgrades and search
[12:16] <Vge> mark all updates?
[12:17] <swatgoss> solus_ try to find a driver on your system (already installed), or try to find one ...
[12:17] <solus_> swatgoss: no, it usually doesnt take longer, but we are 4 fast pcs on one dsl 1000 connection until we move in 2 weeks
[12:17] <swatgoss> solus_ but absolutely no idea on how to
[12:17] <swatgoss> solus_ only 3 PCs here on 5.5Mb/s connec ...
[12:17] <swatgoss> 8Mb/s IP
[12:18] <Vge> hmm, are broadcom wireless drivers easy to install allready? ;)
[12:18] <swatgoss> solus_ and before november, moving to 24Mb/s IP :p
[12:18] <solus_> ok, i found the drivers already on here, they are libusb-0.1-4, usbutils, and xserver-xorg-driver-sisusb
[12:18] <farous> Vge: there are two ways to do that ndiswrapper and open source bcm43xx
[12:19] <solus_> when we move in 2 weeks well ahve 2 pcs on a dsl 6000
[12:19] <Vge> farous: i know, then i guess no
[12:19] <swatgoss> solus_ now i'm out of date ... i can't do more to help you ... sry
[12:19] <solus_> its ok
[12:19] <farous> Vge: both have their down side but i think it will be better in the future
[12:19] <farous> Vge: i have ndiswrapper no probs so far
[12:20] <Vge> shoud try that one better when i have the time
[12:21] <kyle_> brb
[12:21] <swatgoss> someone know a jacky channel ?
[12:21] <Vge> got any ndiswrapper guide for idiots, specific to broadcom? im kinda tired with it
[12:22] <swatgoss> lol ... bad joke ... need a #jacky chan !
[12:22] <farous> Vge: am afraid i knew the steps and did it myself. did not need a guide. the main prob is getting a proper driver for your card that will work
[12:24] <farous> !ndiswrapper
[12:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:24] <farous> do not know if this will be of any help
[12:24] <Vge> well i see if they have updated it since i last tryed it
[12:24] <maltaethiron> guys, is there any way besides k3b that i can burn an iso to a disc?
[12:24] <farous> vge they wre mainly 3 steps
[12:25] <farous> Vge: install ndiswrapper-utils, blacklist the bcm43xx module. install a driver that will work with your card
[12:26] <swatgoss> 20sec ping ...
[12:26] <maltaethiron> hawkwind:  you around buddy?
[12:27] <farous> Vge: ah and i forgot load the ndiswrapper module
[12:27] <maltaethiron> !seen hawkwind
[12:27] <ubotu> Hawkwind is on IRC right now!
[12:27] <Sanne> maltaethiron: you could use cdrecord from the command line
[12:28] <Vge> farous: well i have been close, but some part has allways been in the way, main problem is that i dont have wireless device at home, so testing is kinda hard
[12:28] <maltaethiron> and that would write an ISO file to a disc?
[12:28] <farous> Vge: ah i understand. so you should not worry about wireless that much.But if you want to go throught the steps i would be glad here to help :)
[12:29] <soulrider> do any FTP clients come with kubuntu ?
[12:29] <Sanne> maltaethiron: cdrecord is a cd burning program, I think k3b uses it as a backend. To find the correct command, you would need to read the manpage (man cdrecord). I'm afraid I don't know further, because I use k3b ;)
[12:29] <h3sp4wn> soulrider: I would recommend ncftp (from the repos)
[12:29] <Vge> soulrider: try gFTP
[12:29] <soulrider> thanks
[12:29] <maltaethiron> sanne: im having problems with k3b
[12:29] <soulrider> ill get both
[12:30] <maltaethiron> sanne: as in, it doesnt work
[12:30] <maltaethiron> sanne: it doesnt open
[12:30] <h3sp4wn> soulrider: ncftp has a little to learn but after you learn the basics its very good
[12:30] <Sanne> maltaethiron: when you try to start it from the console, what error do you get?
[12:31] <maltaethiron> hold on, lemme get it for you
[12:31] <Sanne> ok
[12:31] <maltaethiron> ill get it if you can type a pastebin url for me
[12:31] <maltaethiron> ok, nvm, it opened
[12:32] <maltaethiron> O_o
[12:32] <maltaethiron> it wouldnt earlier
[12:32] <Sanne> maltaethiron: pastebin is in the topic
[12:32] <Sanne> ojh!
[12:32] <Sanne> cool :)
[12:32] <maltaethiron> well, thanks for youre willingness to help
[12:32] <Sanne> anytime ;)
[12:36] <francolq> Hello, dapper problem here. My internet connection was very slow (when it worked), so read the forums and succesfully disabled IPV6. Now internet is faster (but slower than mi previous Breezy) and works on boot, but sometimes it hangs up and if i disable eth0 y cannot enable it and get an IP again.
[12:36] <nagyv> I am just installing kubuntu for a friend, and I have never partitioned anything using LVM. Is it worthwile to try? If yes, what is the recommended setup?
[12:37] <bipolar> nagyv: it's not worth it unless you're doing a server
[12:38] <francolq> Hello, dapper problem here. My internet connection was very slow (when it worked), so read the forums and succesfully disabled IPV6. Now internet is faster (but slower than mi previous Breezy) and works on boot, but sometimes it hangs up and if i disable eth0 y cannot enable it and get an IP again.
[12:39] <tsdgeos> francolq: no need to say the same twice ;-)
[12:39] <seren> hello
[12:40] <seren> i was wondering how to have wlassistant to have wireless start when i reboot the pc
[12:41] <seren> without any intervention
[12:41] <supaNICK> I return
[12:42] <supaNICK> Is there a way can resize my main panel without making my icons and stuff bigger?
[12:42] <supaNICK> I need the task space
[12:42] <supaNICK> dead room huh?
[12:43] <seren> i guess
[12:43] <supaNICK> that's weird.
[12:43] <supaNICK> 247 people and nobody chats :P
[12:43] <seren> supaNICK, sady im new to ubuntu, although im a gentoo vet, how do i add processes to boot?
[12:43] <supaNICK> what do you mean "to boot"?
[12:44] <seren> like setting boot processes
[12:44] <supaNICK> I'm a linux nub :P
[12:44] <imbrandon> seren: install the package bum ( bot up manager ) sudo apt-get install bum
[12:44] <imbrandon> and use it
[12:44] <ndl> hi, guys!
[12:44] <seren> imbrandon, thx
[12:44] <supaNICK> hiyo..
[12:44] <imbrandon> s/bot/boot/
[12:44] <supaNICK> I do need help though
[12:44] <imbrandon> !helpme
[12:44] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:45] <seren> imbrandon, how do i get wireless to start on boot
[12:45] <supaNICK> lol
[12:45] <supaNICK> I did ask my quesiton without responses
[12:45] <ndl> i need some help with Konqueror.... trying to tweak its interface. can anyone help?
[12:45] <supaNICK> yeah, use firefox instead :-)
[12:45] <seren> ha
[12:45] <imbrandon> seren: just configure the card and set it to auto in /etc/netword/interfaces
[12:45] <imbrandon> s/network/
[12:45] <supaNICK> anyway, how can I resize my main panel without enlarging the icons?
[12:46] <imbrandon> supaNICK: you cant
[12:46] <supaNICK> why not?
[12:46] <supaNICK> that sucks.
[12:46] <supaNICK> :'(
[12:46] <seren> imbrandon, well i used wlassistant, should i configure it manually and forget about wlassistant?
[12:46] <imbrandon> supaNICK: becouse thats not a option in kicker, try something else
[12:46] <supaNICK> like what?
[12:46] <supaNICK> I'm a newb.
[12:47] <seren> imma ask in #kde about wlassistnt
[12:47] <imbrandon> seren: no idea, i have never used wlassistant, check that file or use the kde setting -> network to configure it
[12:47] <ndl> hhow can i make Konqueror show my Windows share under the Storage Media section? i have already mounted the share using "smbmount"
[12:47] <imbrandon> seren: it doesent have much to do with kde its self ;)
[12:47] <seren> wlassistant = Kde wireless assistant
[12:47] <imbrandon> seren: i know what it is
[12:48] <imbrandon> ndl make sure its mounted in /media/somefolder and it should
[12:49] <mpupu> I'm planning on reinstalling Kubuntu, but I don't have enough space to backup my /home
[12:49] <mpupu> Is it ok if I just rename it, delete everything else and install in the same partition without reformatting?
[12:49] <jujimufu> so, I compiled a new kernel, 2.6.17.8, and I try to boot with it, and I get this error: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[12:50] <seren> imbrandon, wow im a tard, i guess it was too simple
[12:50] <imbrandon> mpupu: that would work
[12:50] <ndl> @ imb: i?l try that now... back in a minute. thnx! :-)
[12:50] <seren> suppose im use to using the terminal to set everything
[12:50] <farous> mpupu: do not know if that will work. A better practice is to have a seperate partition for home. by the way you can alwasy reinstall the packages you have
[12:51] <seren> jujimufu, are you booted to another kernel on the same box?
[12:51] <mpupu> farous: I know, but it's already in the same partition as everything else, and I don't have the space to make a copy now
[12:52] <farous> jujimufu: did you have your rfs type as a built in driver into the kernel?
[12:52] <farous> mpupu: you can always reinstall problematic packages no need for full install. sudo aptitude purge <package name> then sudo aptitude install
[12:52] <jujimufu> seren: I installed a new kernel on the same box.
[12:53] <jujimufu> farous: rfs? what do you mean?
[12:53] <imbrandon> jujimufu: did you one follow the wiki ? if you did you must be running edgy becouse there isnt a mechanisim to do this in dapper safely without much experince, it is recomended you DONT compile the kernel unless you have a very specific need, can i ask why you are compiling it ?
[12:53] <seren> whats the root fs
[12:53] <jujimufu> oh oh
[12:53] <farous> jujimufu: what is you root file system type
[12:53] <mpupu> farous: ok, thanks
[12:53] <ndl> @ imbrandon: is the "/media" directory available in all distros?
[12:53] <imbrandon> ndl: not all no
[12:53] <ndl> shoot :-(
[12:54] <ndl> strange, coz Konq shows "media:/" on the Location Bar anyway....
[12:54] <imbrandon> media:/ is the kio slave
[12:55] <ndl> so how does Konq access the drives on "media:/" if the directory isnt present?
[12:55] <ndl> hmmm
[12:55] <imbrandon> you are getting the filesystem and the kio slave confused ;)
[12:55] <ndl> any solution, then?
[12:56] <ndl> very likely....
[12:56] <imbrandon> solution to what ? what exactly are you trying to do ?
[12:56] <luciano> hey guys
[12:57] <luciano> i a total noob, and i need some help
[12:57] <luciano> i'm a win developer switching from windows, need help with my crt monitor, it flickering
[12:57] <ndl> well, i come from windows, so i used to have shares of other computers from my LAN to show on Windows Explorer as a drive letter. i see Konq shows drives under the "Storage Media" section, but it only shows the local drives and partitions...
[12:57] <luciano> actually, my LCD monitor ;P
[12:57] <duane> hello?
[12:58] <duane> how come it can't find my qt libs/headers?
[12:58] <imbrandon> ndl: correct ....
[12:58] <francolq>  Hello, dapper problem here. My internet connection was very slow (when it worked), so read the forums and succesfully disabled IPV6. Now internet is faster (but slower than mi previous Breezy) and works on boot, but sometimes it hangs up and if i disable eth0 y cannot enable it and get an IP again.
[12:58] <farous> luciano: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:58] <duane> ./configure errors with this: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[12:58] <jujimufu> farous: ext3, I thought it was default. Isn't it?
[12:58] <luciano> Il try it, farous
[12:58] <duane> it's definetly there :
[12:59] <farous> jujimufu: you have to select it to be loaded into the kernel. the default is that they are loaded as sep modules. imbrandon had really good question for you and you should consider it
[12:59] <duane> anyone?
[01:00] <jujimufu> farous: imbrandon: I wanted to activate DRI for my intel i915 (855G)
[01:00] <farous> ndl: you can mount network drivers too is that what you are trying
[01:00] <seren> jujimufu,
[01:00] <seren> grep EXT3 /usr/src/linux/.config
[01:00] <imbrandon> duane: its prety self explanitory , you dont have the QT headers ( and probably many other things ) installed to compile a QT app
[01:01] <duane> :)
[01:01] <duane> I obviously DO :p
[01:01] <seren> jujimufu, if /usr/src/linux is the location of the kernel source
[01:01] <imbrandon> jujimufu: that can be done by compiling the kernel module for it at worst case, afaik though its just an xorg setting to do that
[01:02] <imbrandon> duane: obviously you do what ? i guess its not so obvious ?
[01:02] <farous> francolq: frankly i tried to understand your question but could not. if you have two question can you post them seperately
[01:02] <duane> well, they're there! :p
[01:03] <imbrandon> are they where .configure is looking for them ( not likely as that is wanting a very old qt )
[01:03] <imbrandon> duane: what are you compling ?
[01:03] <duane> calypso...
[01:03] <duane> it's a raytracer
[01:03] <farous> duane: look at the config help for a setting on specifing the location of the header files you need. ./configure --help can be good start or just open readme file
[01:03] <duane> let me find a link somewhere...
[01:04] <ndl> well, i have the Windows share mounted.... it shows under "/mnt", but it doesnt show on Konq under "Storage Media". this whole odissey started when i tried to play my MP3s (stored in my Win machine) and AmaroK dint play them coz they werent local....
[01:04] <duane> yea, I've been trying various --withs...
[01:05] <luciano> farous: i finished the wizard, how do i restart X ?
[01:05] <duane> great. got past the qt header warnings, now it gives me this:
[01:05] <duane> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[01:05] <duane> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[01:05] <duane> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[01:05] <imbrandon> duane: i do not need a link, if you wish to compile this you need the pre requsite sotware installed, if you have qt dev files installed and confugure cont find them it is configures fault and you need to either one pass it or two but the developers to fix the bug
[01:05] <duane> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[01:05] <duane> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[01:05] <duane> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[01:05] <imbrandon> !paste
[01:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:05] <duane> :)
[01:05] <farous> duane: here is what i did for lyx ./configure --with-frontend=qt --with-extra-dir=/usr/share/qt3/lib --with-extra-inc=/usr/include/qt3
[01:06] <farous> luciano: it should start autom
[01:06] <farous> luciano: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[01:07] <imbrandon> moins bimberi
[01:08] <h3sp4wn> duane: Have you tried regenerating ./configure with autoconf ?
[01:08] <bimberi> heya imbrandon
[01:08] <francolq> farous: sorry, very bad english. I would like to know if there is any other idea than disabling IPV6 to solve network problems in Dapper.
[01:08] <ndl> mouting the windows sahre to "/dev" instead of "/media" (that i dont have in my distro) would have the same effect?
[01:09] <duane> yea, I have
[01:09] <farous> francolq: i do not have any problems with ipv6 here frankly
[01:10] <h3sp4wn> ndl: put it in some subdirectory of /mnt not in /dev
[01:10] <duane> is there anything wrong with this?
[01:10] <duane> ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 --with-extra-includes=/usr/include/kde3 --with-extra-libs=/usr/lib/kde3
[01:11] <duane> ahh
[01:11] <ndl> h3sp4wn: i did. i see it there. but i trying to make the windows share appear as a drive in Konq....
[01:12] <h3sp4wn> ndl: At the moment it is just a folder correct ?
[01:12] <ndl> yep
[01:12] <francolq> farous:  there are several messages about these problem at the forums... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237052
[01:12] <ndl> a folder under /mnt
[01:12] <luciano> hey farous
[01:13] <luciano> i restarted it, then it said "cannot connect to server on 0:0' then i put the old xorg back
[01:13] <luciano> thing is
[01:13] <farous> francolq: i read the forum some people say ipv6 have no effect other say no it has. I tried my net with and without ipv6 and got the same speed on test my network speed site :)
[01:13] <ndl> h3sp4wn: i want the sahre to appear as a drive, for easier browsing in Konqueror
[01:13] <luciano> my monitor is 17 inch widescreen, i have to use 1280x768
[01:14] <luciano> at 1024x768 the monitor doesn't flicker, but everything is stretched
[01:14] <farous> luciano: normally you specify that when you run dpkg-reconfigure
[01:14] <luciano> at 1280x768 the resolution is fine, but the monitor flickers
[01:14] <farous> luciano: flicker as in freq setting ?
[01:14] <luciano> yeah
[01:14] <luciano> the other day i ran some command to vieww the monitor setup
[01:15] <luciano> and the tutorial said that hsinc and vsinc should be equal,
[01:15] <farous> luciano: with my ati card i specify 1040X1050@60 for ex
[01:15] <luciano> and it wasn't my case, but i couldn't make them to be equal
[01:15] <farous> luciano: normally there is another commn i can not remember now
[01:15] <luciano> hummmm...
[01:16] <farous> luciano: give me a min
[01:16] <luciano> it's a shame, i've been triying to get this right for 5 days now, and I take screen shots, they look GREAT when i open them in windows ;P
[01:16] <luciano> ok, i'll wait
[01:16] <farous> crtHsync and Vrefresh do not need to be equal
[01:17] <farous> here are a setting i used
[01:17] <luciano> that means that linux is understanding the resolution nice and smooth, the antialias is great (far better than cleartype) but the monitor isn't caching up...
[01:17] <farous>        Option          "CRT2Hsync" "50-75"
[01:17] <farous> #        Option          "CRT2VRefresh" "30-82"
[01:17] <luciano> let me check mine now
[01:18] <luciano> Section "Monitor"
[01:18] <luciano>         Identifier      "Generic Monitor"
[01:18] <luciano>         Option          "DPMS"
[01:18] <luciano>         HorizSync       28-51
[01:18] <luciano>         VertRefresh     43-60
[01:19] <h3sp4wn> luciano: use the xfree86 modeline generator
[01:19] <luciano> in the manual, it says that Hsinc should be 47.70 and vsinc 60, so it should be setting up properly with that config
[01:19] <luciano> how do i do that h3sp4wn ?
[01:19] <h3sp4wn> What resolution do you want ?
[01:20] <luciano> 1280x768
[01:20] <h3sp4wn> This is a widescreen laptop screen right ?
[01:20] <luciano> thing is i am using the resolution, fine.... but the monitor flickers
[01:20] <luciano> not laptop, but LCD widescreen, yeah
[01:20] <luciano> 17 inch
[01:22] <farous> again luciano my card support 1024x768@87 with the flgrx driver. do  not know if it will work with the open source or not
[01:22] <h3sp4wn> luciano: Modeline "1280x768@60" 79.75 1280 1312 1608 1640 768 783 791 807
[01:22] <luciano> i'll try that, 1 sec
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> luciano: put that in section monitor
[01:23] <luciano> ahn ok
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> luciano: then change all instances of "1280x768" to "1280x768@60" (most lcd's work best at 60hz)
[01:25] <cozomo> About halfway through any compilation on my dapper drake, my computer halts for some reason, anyone know anything about this?
[01:26] <luciano> made the changes... restart x again then ?
[01:27] <luciano> restarting....
[01:28] <h3sp4wn> luciano: yep
[01:29] <farous> h3sp4wn: do you need to specify the modline with the new xorg
[01:30] <JRH3K5> Anyone here know what port I have to open on the firewall to allow ping packets through?
[01:30] <h3sp4wn> farous: To get my monitor to run at 60hz (which is the recommended its an lcd panel) with the binary nvidia drivers
[01:31] <h3sp4wn> farous: That is the only way (otherwise it goes at 75hz which the monitor manual says is not optimum) maybe there is a better way
[01:31] <farous> h3sp4wn: i know that 60Hz is recommended for lcd. I was asking do you need to put the modeline. or just putting 1024x768@60 is sufficinet
[01:31] <farous> h3sp4wn: just wondering thats all for this is hte way i used in my xorg.conf file
[01:32] <Blissex> farous: just limit the max 'VertRefresh' to 60. The modeline will be chosen automagically.
[01:32] <farous> did not put the modeline
[01:32] <h3sp4wn> farous: I am not sure - maybe the modeline is not necessary
[01:32] <Blissex> farous: actually limit it to 61 to be sure.
[01:32] <farous> Blissex: ok thanx and thanx h3sp4wn
[01:33] <h3sp4wn> farous: Its only with the binary nvidia driver that I need the modeline (I can just select 60 with any of the free drivers)
[01:33] <luciano> h3sp4wn, I'm still flickering here.... :S
[01:34] <farous> luciano: i think you are not used to the 60Hz for big screens at 60Hz it have to flicker
[01:34] <farous> luciano: did you try it on window
[01:34] <farous> h3sp4wn: cool with fglrx bin drive i did not need to specify the modeline. no harm in putting it though :)
[01:34] <luciano> it works ok in windows, no flickering... 1280x768@60
[01:37] <luciano> i took a picture from the screen, does any one wants to see it ?
[01:38] <farous> luciano: put it on the pastebin
[01:38] <luciano> how ?
[01:38] <farous> !pastebin
[01:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:41] <farous> luciano: hope you solve your prob take care
[01:43] <luciano> im posting
[01:46] <bubu1uk> luciano: dont forget link to pastebin here too. :p
[01:47] <ndl> i guess im gonna give up on the "mounting as drive" prob....might not be possible
[01:48] <luciano> ok,
[01:48] <ndl> another question: how to make screenshots of the boot process? is it possible or i will need to use a camera?
[01:49] <Blissex> ndl: you can with a virtual machine, else camera...
[01:49] <ndl> not familiar with VM...
[01:49] <ndl> something i will install on my distro?
[01:51] <luciano> ok, so this is my desktop flickering at 1280x768: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i20930
[01:51] <waspius> [Desktop Entry] 
[01:51] <waspius> Type=Directory
[01:51] <waspius> Icon=trashcan_full
[01:51] <waspius> EmptyIcon=trashcan_empty
[01:51] <waspius> Name=Trash
[01:52] <waspius> sorry mistake
[01:52] <luciano> and this is at 1024x768. it's not flickering, but it's stretched since the monitor is widescreen http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i20931
[01:53] <waspius> in order to create a trash bin on my desktop do i just create a new link to location trash:/?
[01:53] <luciano> actually, sorry, they're the same, it's the flickering version
[01:53] <luciano> i uploaded the same file, sorry
[01:53] <luciano> but it's the one that matters anyway
[01:54] <luciano> can someone try to help me ?
[01:54] <luciano> bubuluk, any toughts ?
[01:55] <bubu1uk> luciano: nope, sorry
[01:55] <luciano> thanks anyway...
[01:59] <dec_> I am new to linux and i just downloaded flash for linux and I do not know how to install the application any ideas
[02:00] <[Relic] > is there a way to set up a new HD and just copy over the current install instead of having to set everything up again?  or a way to log the files that were loaded to make one nice big install/upgrade of stuff?
[02:01] <otaku-san> Yo n00b question...how do I change the color of the font on the top of windows??? It's white and whoa dang is it hard to see!
[02:01] <[Relic] > thought that flash had the instructions right on the page that you got it from
[02:05] <inaki> hola
[02:05] <inaki> spanish?
[02:05] <[Relic] > where?
[02:06] <inaki> spanish channel please?
[02:06] <[Relic] > don't thik anyone is awake right now  :)
[02:06] <h3sp4wn> !es
[02:06] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:07] <[Relic] > bleh, I will just do a full install  and toss this old drive
[02:09] <kyle_> hello
[02:09] <kyle_> i can't umount
[02:09] <kyle_> sudo umount -f /dev/sbd# won't work
[02:09] <kyle_> says device is busy
[02:09] <magdi> I have just installed kubuntu, and would like to compile kopete 0.12, but I always get an error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:09] <kyle_> what do i do
[02:10] <dungkal> kyle_, what device is it?
[02:10] <rexbron> magdi: do you have build-essentials installed?
[02:10] <kyle_> it's an external hdd
[02:10] <magdi> rexbron: not yet, I think I was looking just for this reply :)
[02:11] <leagris> hi
[02:11] <rexbron> hey
[02:11] <dungkal> kyle_, did you check your Konsole and Konqueror, which may have pointed to your hdd device?
[02:11] <kyle_> yea i did
[02:11] <h3sp4wn> magdi: sudo apt-get build-dep kopete (but I think there are deb's around for kopete 0.12 somewhere)
[02:11] <kyle_> closed out of media players too
[02:11] <magdi> h3sp4wn: I would like to have it with jingle included, and as I know the precompiled version doesn't includes it
[02:12] <kyle_> oh woops
[02:13] <dungkal> kyle_, what now?
[02:13] <kyle_> done
[02:13] <kyle_> it wsa a media program minimized hard for me to see forgot about it
[02:13] <kyle_> umounted
[02:13] <kyle_> kubuntu is a bootiful OS
[02:13] <kyle_> much like mac os x
[02:13] <kyle_> jk haha
[02:13] <dungkal> kyle_, indeed.
[02:14] <kyle_> i macosx86 --> kubuntu migrated today
[02:14] <kyle_> nice
[02:14] <dungkal> that's nice.
[02:14] <dungkal> unlicensed windows xp --> kubuntu (this we did to all our 14 machines)
[02:15] <trpr11> dungkal: good move. the way ms operates that was a lawsuit waiting to happen
[02:16] <kyle_> oh wait i was actually windows2003 enterprise edition for 1 night then switched to kubuntu
[02:16] <dungkal> trpr11, yes, what with their Windows Genuine Advantage FUD tactic.
[02:16] <kyle_> windows took me 5 hours to config and set up drivers and crap
[02:16] <waspius> in order to create a trash bin on my desktop do i just create a new link to location trash:/?
[02:17] <kyle_> i was in the #freebsd and man were those ppl pissed off
[02:17] <dungkal> kyle_, why?
[02:17] <kyle_> piss about nothing but for some apparent reason it's like they don't want to be spoken to or sumthin
[02:17] <kyle_> i asked them what's the difference between linux and freebsd and got flamed
[02:18] <excitatory> waspius: there's a very nice kicker trash applet
[02:18] <dungkal> kyle_, you got served. :-)
[02:18] <kyle_> hahahha
[02:18] <magdi> What to do with this error message? checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[02:18] <waspius> excitatory: which does what?\
[02:19] <kyle_> yea i was looking at solaris 10 cuz i heard they improved
[02:19] <kyle_> but kernel 2.6 was pretty good and linux updates are easy to apply
[02:19] <kyle_> solaris was never easy to update to begin with for some reason
[02:20] <excitatory> waspius: gives you control over trash:/  .. you can open up the trash, empty, and even paste things into the trash.
[02:20] <excitatory> quite handy
[02:20] <excitatory> and i much prefer it to a desktop icon
[02:21] <waspius> excitatory: yeah but does that not use allot of memory?
[02:21] <excitatory> waspius: are you kidding?  it's a little link in your kicker.. wouldn't use any more than a desktop icon.
[02:22] <waspius> excitatory: ok so were do i find it?
[02:24] <excitatory> waspius: right click on your kicker (unlock it if it's locked)  >  Add Applet to panel..   >  then choose Trash.  I also recommend the storage devices one.. for all cds, dvds, and removeable storage devices that loaded, it will provide a quick access to them via an icon.. try it :D
[02:24] <waspius> excitatory: ok i will thanx
[02:24] <magdi> What to do with this error message? (Its a plain new install.) checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[02:25] <supernix> ok I have sort of a problem
[02:25] <leagris> someone know how to configure/use compiz-kde ?
[02:25] <magdi> supernix: I you sure about it?
[02:25] <magdi> !compiz
[02:25] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:25] <supernix> I boot up as usual but now for some reason grub wont allow me to move the selection up and down with my keyboard to select a different OS
[02:25] <trpr11> magdi: you are compiling something? did you get the build-essential package?
[02:26] <leagris> Ubugtu, this documentation is out of date and irrelevant for compiz-kde
[02:26] <magdi> trpr11: yes. I would like to compile kopete 0.12 with jingle, and I ahve already installed build-essentials
[02:27] <magdi> leagris: did you tried the #ubuntu-xgl channel ?
[02:27] <leagris> thx magdi didn't know there was one
[02:28] <trpr11> magdi: how about the x-dev package?
[02:28] <trpr11> magdi: i am uncertain which package you need, but you need the header files, which would be in some sort of dev package
[02:29] <magdi> trpr11: thx, I will try the x-dev (actually x11proto-core-dev according to adept :) )
[02:35] <magdi> I just noticed that my laptops screen is not used in its full size. How could I change it? Is this a resolution problem or something else?
[02:37] <dungkal> magdi, did you try vesa as the default video driver? better yet, what does the command lspci say about your VGA controller?
[02:38] <magdi> dungkal: I think you are interested in this line: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  661/741/760/761 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
[02:43] <dungkal> please check what driver is used: less /etc/X11/xorg.conf. then look for the Section "Device" and find out the driver.
[02:43] <nnn0> what's the best iptables gui ? :)
[02:44] <nnn0> i was thinking about firestarter or kmyfirewall
[02:45] <kyle_> is anyone running WINE on kubuntu?
[02:46] <Blissex> nnn0: http://www.sabi.co.UK/Notes/linuxFwConfig.html for a list
[02:46] <dungkal> kyle_, I do.
[02:46] <nnn0> yeah i've been looking on the net, but it's difficult to decide :)
[02:46] <Blissex> nnn0: usually the most powerful is 'FwBuilder.org'
[02:46] <kyle_> dungkal is there a kubuntu package for it?
[02:46] <nnn0> k
[02:46] <nnn0> thx
[02:47] <dungkal> yes,
[02:47] <kyle_> or do i have to get it from them and install it myself?
[02:47] <kyle_> can you tell me where i can find it?
[02:47] <kyle_> i tried synamtic and adept
[02:47] <kyle_> but i can't find anything
[02:47] <adidas> salut les linuxiens :D
[02:48] <dungkal> kyle_, it's with your repository list. i'll find out the category of wine in mine.
[02:48] <jontec> I need to know about ISO images, is there a program that can read a cd and create an iso image on linux?
[02:48] <jontec> before I go looking on adept?
[02:49] <magdi> dungkal: the driver is vesa
[02:49] <actinic> jontec, i believe the iso thing is native to linux
[02:49] <kyle_> repository list? where is the repository list?
[02:50] <magdi> kyle_: under /etc/apt/sources.list, but you can edit it with adept too
[02:50] <dungkal> kyle_, change your repository file. sudo kedit /etc/apt/sources.list. then append 'universe' and 'multiverse' to each line you see that starts with 'deb' and 'deb-src'.
[02:50] <magdi> kyle_: a usable list can be found at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[02:51] <dungkal> then on Konsole, sudo apt-get update.
[02:51] <dungkal> then try to install wine: apt-get install wine.
[02:55] <magdi> dungkal: any ideas?
[02:56] <dungkal> magdi: try to change it to sis. sudo kedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf. then change the line that says "driver vesa". change that to "driver sis".
[02:58] <dungkal> magdi: i'm not sure though about my advice. i'm also using a laptop with the same SIS VGA controller.
[02:58] <magdi> dungkal: and you are using the vesa or the sis driver?
[02:58] <dungkal> sis driver.
[03:02] <jontec> thanks actinic, Does anyone know if the Dapper Kubuntu cds have a "server" version on them for low end pcs? My hands are tied, I'm on dial-up (can't download iso s), I can't get any more cds and Kubuntu dapper/Ubuntu dapper/breezy are all I have...
[03:03] <francolq> Hello. I installed Dapper but the network is very slow. Disabling IPV6 (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1389280&postcount=9) didn't work. Any idea?
[03:05] <[Relic] > will this work  ->  basic install ->  copy old drive to new drive with * and -r -a -> reboot and have everything working as it was?
[03:05] <max> cool
[03:05] <max> has anyone here used Bittorrent on Kubuntu?
[03:05] <kyle_> dugkal if i do apt-get for wine then adept will have no control of it won't it?
[03:06] <francolq> max: i use the bittornado client
[03:06] <adidas> hi guys
[03:06] <adidas> u okay all ?
[03:06] <adidas> what's up ? :D
[03:06] <[Relic] > think ktorrent is a bittorrent interface
[03:06] <magdi> I would like to use the last.fm player, but it sais that it need qt4 to compile. Is it safe to install it?
[03:06] <adidas> what's the different betwen ubuntu's software and kubuntu's please ?
[03:07] <adidas> -t +ce
[03:07] <jontec> kubuntu runs KDE
[03:07] <sans> hi all
[03:07] <jontec> ubuntu runs Gnome
[03:07] <sans> people, what are your favourite kde applications?
[03:07] <dungkal> kyle_, either konsole or adept will work.
[03:07] <magdi> sans: konversation :)
[03:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> sans: katapult
[03:07] <sans> haha, I love those two
[03:07] <sans> i just ran konversation through katapult :-D
[03:08] <jontec> umm.... Kate
[03:08] <sans> i'm in big, big love with kde at the moment, even though I used to hate it
[03:08] <sans> the apps just got me
[03:08] <jontec> amaroK, and Konversation has helped me a lot ^_^, Adept is really good too
[03:08] <adidas> thanks jontec, bye !
[03:08] <adidas> cya all
[03:09] <magdi> I would like to use the last.fm player, but it sais that it need qt4 to compile. Is it safe to install it?
[03:09] <kyle_> wait
[03:10] <kyle_> dungkal if i uncomment the 2 lines with universe and multiverse......do i have to comment out the first 2 lines without universe and multiverse?
[03:10] <sans> i'm in so much love with kile, kate, kjots, kalarm, karm, TaskJugglerUI, amarok, akregator, the who kontact shebang, kdissert, digikam
[03:10] <sans> the whole* kontact
[03:11] <miyako> is there a package to get the source for the installer, or would I need to get that from CVS?  I had some trouble during installing kubuntu and I would like to try to see if I can fix the bug and submit a patch
[03:11] <sans> do you guys too have software that just doesn't work on your machine? I'm having problems with 1) knights 2) kat 3) kerry
[03:12] <charlie5> are dvd players easy/hard/impossible to install for the average Joe (or in this case charlie ;) ... ?
[03:12] <magdi> charlie5: use easyubuntu
[03:13] <miyako> charlie5, the wiki has a good guide on getting dvd playback working
[03:13] <dungkal> kyle_, let me try if I can send my sources.list file to you. wait.
[03:13] <charlie5> um, i mean hardware install, btw
[03:13] <charlie5> magdi: thanks, i've not heard of easyubuntu ... i'll check it out
[03:14] <magdi> charlie5: it's software install
[03:14] <miyako> charlie5, hmm, I never considered it something that is difficult to do, basically just plugging in two things (power and the IDE cable) but I guess if you've never installed anything in your machine before it might be a little intimidating
[03:14] <jontec> giggity giggity. I think I have an iso image.
[03:14] <brk3> hi, does usb speakers in linux not require a soundcard?
[03:14] <kyle_> hmm
[03:15] <kyle_> dungkal is it sending?
[03:15] <charlie5> miyako: ah, thanks ... i've installed ram & video cards, but never a cd or dvd ... it's not too hard then ? ... great, i'll have a crack at it
[03:16] <dungkal> it says 100% in my status window but it still says sending. how about in your end?
[03:16] <kyle_> dungkal nothing yet
[03:16] <kyle_> where do i check the file?
[03:16] <kyle_> lemme look
[03:17] <kyle_> dungkal nothing
[03:17] <dungkal> if there's a problem, i may post here each line of my sources.list or send it to you through email. what'd you think?
[03:17] <kyle_> email
[03:17] <max> i am pretty new at this... how would i go about getting Bit Tornado going if i have already installed the package
[03:17] <paul_> can someone here help out a total newbie to linux?
[03:18] <paul_> I'm running ubuntu
[03:18] <paul_> well, through vmware
[03:18] <paul_> I dunno how to install vmware tools though
[03:18] <paul_> anyone able to help?
[03:18] <brk3> paul_: whats the prob
[03:19] <paul_> hi... well, I've managed to unzip the files to my desktop
[03:19] <paul_> I'm supposed to run vmware-install.pl, but I think I have to do it from the terminal
[03:19] <paul_> and I dont know how to do that in linux
[03:19] <brk3> ok
[03:19] <brk3> go to your start menu
[03:19] <brk3> under system, open 'konsole'
[03:20] <brk3> got that open?
[03:20] <paul_> ok yeah
[03:20] <fakedsymp> Anyone here available to help me out?
[03:20] <brk3> now type: cd Desktop
[03:21] <paul_> says no such file or directory
[03:21] <brk3> type: cd ~
[03:21] <adidas> hey guys it's me again :D
[03:21] <brk3> then try cd Desktop
[03:21] <paul_> ok did that
[03:21] <paul_> ok hang on
[03:21] <paul_> still says the same thing
[03:21] <brk3> em..
[03:22] <brk3> can you extract the files to your home directory then?
[03:22] <brk3> instead of your desktop
[03:22] <dungkal> kyle_, please check out for a tab named dungkal.
[03:22] <paul_> the command line says paul@paul-desktop:~$
[03:22] <paul_> dunno if that means anything to you
[03:22] <brk3> ya it does
[03:22] <fakedsymp> can anyone help me out? I'm having trouble getting something to load in firefox
[03:22] <brk3> just dunno why you cant change to your desktop folder
[03:22] <fakedsymp> running kubuntu
[03:22] <brk3> type: ls
[03:22] <paul_> ok
[03:22] <brk3> and paste the output
[03:23] <farous> !ask
[03:23] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:23] <dungkal> fakedsymp, and that something is?
[03:23] <paul_> says this: Desktop  Examples  logs
[03:23] <brk3> good
[03:23] <brk3> type exactly, cd Desktop
[03:23] <brk3> this is case sensitive
[03:23] <dads> how can i tel if my smp is runnin for a dual core cpu
[03:23] <paul_> oooh I'm in... I didnt realise it was case sensitive
[03:23] <brk3> dads: i want to know this too :)
[03:23] <adidas> i'm actually trying to find some software for my computer and i have a small list of windows' software that i want to have on linux or similary softs
[03:23] <paul_> oops lol
[03:24] <paul_> ok I'm there so far
[03:24] <fakedsymp> Okay. I'm simply tryin' to play a game at addictinggames (www.addictinggames.com/classroom3.html), but the box where the game should be is just a solid blue color
[03:24] <brk3> lol
[03:24] <adidas> someone is okey to help me ? :D
[03:24] <brk3> now type: chmod +x vmware-install.pl
[03:24] <farous> fakedsymp: might be you need the java plugin
[03:24] <fakedsymp> I have a flashplayer installed, and I think the plugin works 'cause youtube videos work and stuff, which run on flash...but I dunno why the hell I can't get the game to work
[03:24] <paul_> ok hang on
[03:24] <fakedsymp> it's java?
[03:24] <adidas> or must i go on google for 2 news hours ? :(
[03:24] <brk3> paul_: or no actually, just type: perl vmware-install.pl
[03:24] <brk3> quicker :)
[03:24] <fakedsymp> I got java from automatix
[03:25] <farous> fakedsymp: firefox will tell you which plugin is missing
[03:25] <paul_> oh ok
[03:25] <farous> !automatix
[03:25] <paul_> one se
[03:25] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:25] <fakedsymp> it told me to download a flashplayer and install it
[03:25] <brk3> does anyone here have usb speakers?
[03:25] <paul_> one sec
[03:25] <fakedsymp> But I have a flashplayer
[03:25] <fakedsymp> and youtube videos DO work, and they're flash based, aren't they?
[03:25] <farous> fakedsymp: linux only have flash 7
[03:25] <jontec> does it require flash 8?
[03:25] <farous> it might need a newer one
[03:25] <fakedsymp> oh. maybe. I dunno. >_>
[03:25] <paul_> hm... said 'please re-run as super user'
[03:25] <brk3> fakedsymp: im not sure if the youtube videos are flash
[03:26] <fakedsymp> Regardless, I"ll go download the latest version of flash
[03:26] <farous> brk3: they are flash am watching them now
[03:26] <paul_> doing the chmod thing didnt seem to do anything
[03:26] <brk3> paul_: ok, type: sudo perl vmware-install.pl
[03:26] <paul_> ok
[03:26] <dungkal> fakedsymp: i tried the site. it's a flash stuff. please try to right click on it and click on settings.
[03:26] <brk3> and then your root password when it asks
[03:26] <brk3> farous: ok, sorry
[03:26] <paul_> ah cool it's doing something now
[03:26] <adidas> ok so i see that everyone wanna help me so here the softs i want : winrar, winamp, ventrilomix and mIRC :D
[03:26] <farous> brk3: no need to be sorry just telling info :)
[03:27] <paul_> asking me what directory I want to install to
[03:27] <jontec> Konqueror: mIRC
[03:27] <jontec> Linux has several programs like winamp.
[03:27] <jontec> they play .ogg files natively i believe
[03:27] <farous> adidas ok you need rar and unrar xmms and perhaps xchat ventrilo i do not know what it is
[03:27] <fakedsymp> I checked the settings, but it doesn't seem to have anything to do with making the game work.
[03:27] <paul_> I think it's doign it now brk3
[03:27] <brk3> farous: :)
[03:27] <paul_> thanks for that :)
[03:27] <brk3> paul_: sweet :)
[03:27] <jontec> and ArK may do .rar archieves... I'm not sure
[03:28] <dads> i thought you could extract rars but not compress them
[03:28] <adidas> xmms is a little stange :S
[03:28] <jontec> archives*
[03:28] <farous> adidas: get one of its winamp skins
[03:28] <jontec> adidas: have you tried amarok?
[03:28] <fakedsymp> okay, I downloaded the flashplayer. but I'm relatively new to linux, and I"ve never installed anything I downloaded from a website before
[03:28] <dungkal> it seems the game relies on webcam and/or microphone?
[03:28] <brk3> adidas: xmms sucks! use amarok, or listen which you can get from automatix
[03:28] <jontec> listen to farous... :D
[03:28] <fakedsymp> and the file extension is like....tar.gz or something
[03:28] <farous> !flash
[03:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:28] <kyle_> dungkal got it
[03:28] <jontec> not about what you said brk3
[03:29] <brk3> huh?
[03:29] <fakedsymp> uh. it doesn't rely on webcam or microphone >_>
[03:29] <sans> does anyone here use rox-filer
[03:29] <jontec> right after you said... adidas: xmms sucks! use amarok, or listen which you can get from automatix...
[03:29] <fakedsymp> I can play it on my desktop running windows.
[03:29] <jontec> I said listen to farous.. they weren't related
[03:29] <brk3> ok
[03:29] <adidas> ok ok ty for ur help i gonna search for these softs and come back if i have others problems :D thanks
[03:30] <jontec> Isn't amaroK installed with all dapper releases?
[03:30] <farous> adidas: no need to search install through adept
[03:30] <farous> they are all in the repos. perhaps the skins you will search for one you like
[03:30] <jontec> oh, I guess he might not be using dapper.. nvm.
[03:31] <adidas> ok i'll try
[03:31] <farous> :)
[03:31] <adidas> ty ;)
[03:32] <Gh0st75> evening folks
[03:32] <maltaethiron> yo
[03:32] <kyle_> dungkal wheres wine?
[03:32] <kyle_> i just installed it through adept
[03:32] <Finetuch> i got a celeron d cpu and i was wonderin how to check if the dual core is being ulitized
[03:32] <Gh0st75> tonight's challenge for our intrepid linux neophyte.....to install EPSXE and get it working :)
[03:32] <Finetuch> can anyone help
[03:33] <dungkal> fakedsymp: i'm sorry i can't help. perhaps the stuff is version 8 and linux's latest supported version is 7 yet.
[03:33] <fakedsymp> how do I install a .tar.gz?
[03:33] <maltaethiron> a .tar.gz is a compressed file
[03:33] <jontec> tar.gz is an archive file i believe
[03:33] <fakedsymp> right
[03:34] <dungkal> kyle_, please try to issue wine on Konsole.
[03:34] <fakedsymp> but I dunno how to uncompress the installer in it, and run it
[03:34] <farous> fakedsymp: you need sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> fakedsymp: It may be source code, but to decompress it either use ark or run 'tar zxvf <tar.gz file>'
[03:34] <brk3> Gh0st75: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:35] <kyle_> dungkal i just did but no windows program to test it with haha
[03:35] <farous> fakedsymp: then run sudo update-flashplugin after the installation
[03:35] <jontec> fakedsymp: right click the file and choose extract
[03:35] <dungkal> kyle_, wine is run together with an .exe file you're trying to open.
[03:35] <kyle_> so is there going to be an icon once i rebooot?
[03:35] <dungkal> no, i don't think so.
[03:35] <kyle_> dungkal oh nice so i can just double click on an exe and it will run? nice
[03:35] <brk3> Gh0st75: do that?
[03:35] <rah> hi...how change resolution boosplash image to 1280x1024 ?
[03:36] <dungkal> i think so, kyle_. i tried with some other distros before.
[03:36] <kyle_> rah if u find out tell me
[03:36] <kyle_> oh ok
[03:36] <kyle_> dungkal how do i check what resolution i'm running?
[03:36] <Gh0st75> brk3: was just following the steps i found on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=95835 actually
[03:36] <fakedsymp> what's the terminal command to delete a file?
[03:36] <arepie> is it normal update using automatix take till 2 days ?
[03:37] <kyle_> rm -f
[03:37] <brk3> Gh0st75: ok, hope it works
[03:37] <farous> fakedsymp: rm filename
[03:37] <fakedsymp> okay, thanks
[03:37] <rah> arepie if you net speed ist 1kB:P
[03:37] <arepie> and it is not finish yet..
[03:37] <Gh0st75> i'll be askin for help if i run into any trouble with it, thanks
[03:37] <arepie> omg.. im using broadband 1mb
[03:37] <brk3> arepie: not unless your on dialup
[03:37] <brk3> althogh that would prob take 2 years on dialup
[03:37] <kyle_> haha
[03:37] <brk3> np
[03:38] <jontec> how big is the file, I'll tell you, I have dial-up
[03:38] <jontec> :D
[03:38] <dungkal> K-Menu->System-Settings. then click on the Display icon.
[03:38] <jontec> nvm, I didn't read.
[03:38] <osiris> how do i solve the "scrolling desktop" issue.  its drawing the screen bigger than my monitor, and it scrolls around when i move the mouse
[03:38] <fakedsymp> okay, I have the installer extracted...but I dunno how to run it to install it
[03:40] <farous> fakedsymp: ./filename you need to run usually .bin
[03:40] <farous> for flashplugin
[03:40] <Gh0st75> doh, so much for that....once again, only instructions available online were for Ubuntu, not Kubuntu...i got as far as having everything downloaded and installed, but when trying to create a shell script to launch it, it doesn't recognize the command sudo gedit /usr/local/bin/epsxe
[03:40] <jontec> I'm cool. I'm using debian documentation to install ubuntu breezy.
[03:41] <fakedsymp> bash: ./install_flash_player_7_linux: is a directory
[03:41] <fakedsymp> that's what it returned when I put in "./install_flash_player_7_linux"
[03:41] <brk3> osiris: you need to increase your screen resolution
[03:41] <farous> fakedsymp: you need the file under the dir
[03:41] <magdi> Gh0st75: gedit is for gnome, try kate instead
[03:41] <fakedsymp> eh?
[03:41] <Gh0st75> so just replace any instance of gedit with kate?
[03:41] <Gh0st75> will try that
[03:42] <magdi> fakedsymp: it is pretty easy to install flashplayer using easyubuntu
[03:42] <dungkal> kyle_, there are built-in .exe files in your wine package that you can test, like notepad.exe. open konqueror. go to ~/.wine/drive_c/windows.
[03:42] <adidas> jontec: i just have installed amarok and when i try to play a sound, it says me the Playlist is finished
[03:42] <fakedsymp> Yeah but I'm a total linux newb
[03:42] <brk3> adidas: you need to install libxine-extracodecs
[03:42] <brk3> adidas: use automatix
[03:42] <farous> !automatix
[03:42] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:43] <farous> the use at your own risk mean something
[03:43] <kendrick> hello
[03:43] <Gh0st75> followed the rest of the install guide, but when i type epsxe in the terminal, i get this error: ./epsxe: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:43] <kendrick> hi
[03:43] <brk3> farous: automatix is the best thing thats happened to ubuntu, pity the bot has to give it such a lame description
[03:43] <brk3> Gh0st75: open up adept and install libncurses
[03:44] <adidas> what is automatix ?
[03:44] <farous> brk3: the boot have tht for a reason :)
[03:44] <kendrick> hello di i join something or wat
[03:44] <osiris> brk3, i have this set for 1024x768, i dont think this monitor supports much higher
[03:44] <farous> !ask
[03:44] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:44] <farous> ke: hi
[03:44] <osiris> its a 17in gateway vivitron
[03:44] <kendrick> hi
[03:44] <Gh0st75> libncurses5 i already installed
[03:45] <brk3> osiris: right click on ur desktop and go to configure
[03:45] <dungkal> hi kendrick.
[03:45] <Gh0st75> libncursesw5 is already installed as well
[03:45] <kyle_> who's running 1280x1024 ?
[03:45] <osiris> brk3, are you looking for me to go to systemsettings ?
[03:45] <brk3> osiris: then go to the display section and make sure the screen size is at the highest
[03:45] <kendrick> hi wat r u talking about
[03:45] <brk3> osiris: no just right click on your desktop and go to 'configure' on the menu that pops up
[03:46] <adidas> and with xmms i have one problem too : the window doesn't appear when i start a music, but the music is playing :(
[03:46] <brk3> kendrick: if you have a question, just ask rather than asking to ask
[03:46] <adidas> oops i spoke too fast, it's ok now
[03:46] <tdmg> Guys, I'm in deep doo doo :(   After installing my nVidia drivers last night and setting up my dual monitors I now can't boot, except in recovery mode.  Also, my newest kernel is still broken, I have other drivers I need set up, and a host of other issues.  Could someone please help me!?
[03:46] <toliman> adidas: it's a preconfig'd set of scripts to get software pre-installed
[03:46] <adidas> ok
[03:46] <sans> how do i get rid of konqi?
[03:46] <kyle_> adidas haha
[03:46] <kendrick> is this just talking about computers
[03:46] <brk3> osiris: any luck?
[03:46] <toliman> tdmg: welcome to xorg.conf ... the text file of dooooom
[03:46] <sans> i don't want him showing up on the log-out dialog
[03:47] <farous> sans yo do not
[03:47] <adidas> Kyle_: X(
[03:47] <sans> i don't like lizards
[03:47] <farous> sans: it is too much integrated to kde that if you do you will break kde
[03:47] <tdmg> toliman, could I get a concrete answer :P
[03:47] <sans> oh
[03:47] <osiris> brk3, yeah.  when i take it off from the highest setting
[03:47] <tdmg> I'm really screwed here
[03:47] <kyle_> how do i increase my laptop's trackpad sensitivity?
[03:47] <jontec> kendrick: yes, Please take off-topic conversations to #kubuntu-offtopic".... I quoted that from the welcome message
[03:47] <sans> what if someone has a reptile phobia
[03:47] <toliman> tdmg: check dmesg |grep nv for errors, see if the kernel module compiled ok
[03:47] <tdmg> my issues just get worse
[03:47] <osiris> brk3, but i bet 50 says it dont rememgber the settings
[03:47] <kendrick> is this just talking about computer problems
[03:47] <kyle_> the skin on my index finger is wearing thin
[03:47] <jontec> kendrick: yes
[03:48] <brk3> osiris: bet it will :)
[03:48] <farous> kendrick: type /topic and you will know this is a support channel not a general chat one
[03:48] <tdmg> toliman, I'm a beginner, you have to go step by step.  I have no clue how to get there and what I would look for when I got there
[03:48] <kendrick> thanx
[03:48] <toliman> use ctrl-alt-f1 to get into the first vty, then login.
[03:48] <brk3> kyle_: i think this might be in the mouse sectino of kde setup
[03:48] <adidas> ok i come back with XCHAT B)
[03:48] <farous> :)
[03:48] <tdmg> toliman, I'd also like to get my drivers fixed first.  I can always just use the old kernel
[03:49] <toliman> once youre there, either run 'dmesg' to see what the last few lines are, or run dmesg |less and scroll through the list of entries until you see one called nvidia
[03:49] <brk3> tdmg: so your not totally screwed :)
[03:49] <tdmg> brk3, no
[03:49] <tdmg> but I want this to work
[03:49] <tdmg> I have school and a job, I don't have 20 hours to fix this
[03:50] <tdmg> and it's very frustrating
[03:50] <osiris> brk3, nope.  didnt work
[03:50] <kyle_> how do i know if i got ncurse binary installed
[03:50] <toliman> tdmg: most times, nvidia modules screw up after install. check they were created OK, and that they are running.
[03:50] <kyle_> i did a find -name / ncurse* and found something but some files in /var and some in /usr/share/doc/
[03:50] <brk3> osiris: what didnt work
[03:50] <tdmg> toliman, I have no clue how to do any of that.......
[03:51] <osiris> brk3, everytime i restart X, it forgets the resolution
[03:51] <tdmg> I know how to turn on my computer and do some GUI stuff, and the tiniest bit of CLI stuff
[03:51] <Gh0st75> would automatix make install of epsxe easier?
[03:51] <kyle_> dungkalk u there?
[03:51] <brk3> osiris: maybe you need to change something in your xorg.conf file then
[03:52] <brk3> Gh0st75: no dont think it has that in it
[03:52] <toliman> kyle_: check with aptitude install libncurses5
[03:52] <brk3> Gh0st75: are you still getting that ncurses thing?
[03:52] <Gh0st75> yep
[03:52] <Gh0st75> i don't see a .so libcursers package
[03:52] <toliman> tdmg: dmesg is a log file, /var/log/dmesg, that reports (mostly ) kernel errors. if you use the command dmesg, it reports back what goes
[03:53] <tdmg> okay
[03:53] <tdmg> I'll check that
[03:53] <kyle_> what's aptitude install?
[03:53] <adidas> :D
[03:53] <brk3> Gh0st75: make sure you have all the respitories enabled
[03:53] <toliman> if you use dmesg | grep nvidia , youll see only those lines that have nvidia
[03:53] <kyle_> adept shows that i got libncurses
[03:53] <kyle_> installed
[03:53] <toliman> kyle_: aptitude is apt-get with smarts
[03:54] <toliman> not real smarts, but you get the idea
[03:54] <Gh0st75> you mean the universe and multiverse? they are
[03:54] <farous> !find libncurses5
[03:54] <ubotu> Found: libncurses5, libncurses5-dbg, libncurses5-dev
[03:54] <toliman> just libncurses5
[03:54] <farous> Gh0st75: look at ubotu
[03:54] <toliman> you can also use 'sudo aptitude search ncurses'
[03:54] <Gh0st75> i should install the dbg and dev ones too?
[03:55] <farous> Gh0st75: you need libncurses5
[03:55] <toliman> no point
[03:55] <tdmg> toliman, I don't know how to view dmesg.......
[03:55] <tdmg> I don't know CLI :(
[03:55] <toliman> ncurses-dev is used if you need to compile from source
[03:55] <Gh0st75> i have libncurses5 and libncursesw5 installed
[03:55] <farous> Gh0st75: do you need it to compile someht as toliman say
[03:55] <toliman> tdmg: type in dmesg, then hold down shift to get the pipe symbol if you need to.
[03:56] <farous> then you need the dev package right
[03:56] <tdmg> okay
[03:56] <Gh0st75> i was just tryin to get epxse workin :)
[03:56] <toliman> Gh0st75: what complains about ncurses ?
[03:56] <toliman> epsxe ... erp. try running ldconfig
[03:56] <tdmg> okay, I have it open, what should I be looking for?
[03:56] <Gh0st75> when i type epsxe in Konsole i get this error:     ./epsxe: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:57] <Gh0st75> ldconfig: Can't create temporary cache file /etc/ld.so.cache~: Permission denied
[03:57] <toliman> ahh, sudo ldconfig
[03:57] <Gh0st75> done
[03:57] <brk3> Gh0st75: run it with sudo before it
[03:58] <toliman> tdmg: after you get dmesg to fill the screen with text, you need to look at the last few things. are there errors , etc ?
[03:58] <tdmg> will it say "error"?
[03:58] <tdmg> because I don't see anything that says "error"
[03:58] <toliman> warning, error, not installed, tainted, problem, segfault
[03:59] <toliman> try dmesg |grep taint
[03:59] <tdmg> "cdrom: open failed" is about as negative as it gets
[03:59] <toliman> if you dont see nvidia in the dmesg output, the new module isnt running yet.
[03:59] <tdmg> ah
[03:59] <tdmg> something
[04:00] <tdmg> "nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel."
[04:00] <tdmg> with the time stamp before it
[04:01] <tdmg> toliman?
[04:01] <toliman> yep. taint means, you need to remake the module to 'suit' the kernel
[04:01] <tdmg> okay
[04:01] <tdmg> so
[04:01] <tdmg> what do I do?
[04:02] <toliman> you should be able to follow the instructions on the forums to do it ... ... ...
[04:02] <toliman> ah
[04:02] <toliman> ok
[04:02] <toliman> maybe not so much
[04:02] <tdmg> :-/
[04:02] <toliman> hmm. what dist you running ?
[04:03] <tdmg> Kubuntu.........
[04:03] <tdmg> DD
[04:03] <kyle_> helloo
[04:03] <kyle_> what are the files in /usr/share/doc/bash/completion-contrib ???
[04:03] <kyle_> i can't even sudo run thoes
[04:04] <toliman> maybe theyre placeholders. do ls -al /usr/share/doc/bash/
[04:05] <toliman> tdmg: read through the list of things here ... its wieldy http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper#WHAT_HAPPENS_IF_YOU_CHANGE_YOUR_KERNEL_OR_IF_YOUR_KERNEL_IS_UPDATED
[04:05] <fakedsympathy> what's the command to install wine?
[04:06] <Gh0st75> still getting the same errors, doesn't appear the sudo ldconfig changes anything
[04:06] <tdmg> toliman, I was using my old kernel when I installed the drivers because the new kernel wouldn't recognize my wireless card, so I don't know what this would have to do with it......
[04:07] <toliman> old kernel, old modules. new kernel, new modules
[04:07] <toliman> new kernel, old modules, linux marks as tainted
[04:07] <kyle_> toliman what are placeholders for?
[04:08] <toliman> i.e. to prevent amusing errors, but also, to prevent backdoors and malicious intent
[04:08] <fakedsympathy> what's the command to install wine?
[04:08] <toliman> placeholders ... symlinks to docs elsewhere or non existing.
[04:08] <tdmg> well, I couldn't sudo in the new kernel, so I can't get any drivers there :-/
[04:08] <kyle_> oh
[04:08] <kyle_> so they're not actual applications?
[04:09] <toliman> tdmg: whats the name of the kernel ... try uname -r
[04:09] <[Relic] > anyone know if I can just mass copy an old install onto a new one w/o too many problems or do I need to reinstall everything?
[04:09] <toliman> [Relic] : change your sources list to dapper, run dist-upgrade
[04:10] <[Relic] > switching HDs not upgrading
[04:10] <mpupu> does adept manage software removal the same way as aptitude? (removing unneeded dependencies)
[04:10] <tdmg> toliman, I had just installed Kubuntu, might it be more worthwhile for me to reinstall Kubuntu rather than fret over this?
[04:10] <kendrick> hey all
[04:10] <tdmg> I only got more problems as I went along
[04:10] <kyle_> mpupu how do you know if they're unneeded dependencies?
[04:10] <tdmg> maybe I should just start from scratch again.....
[04:11] <toliman> tdmg: maybe. i had to build my drivers yesterday, laptop install. fiddly as all (*^%
[04:11] <tdmg> well
[04:11] <tdmg> I'll install again and then come back to you guys :P
[04:11] <mpupu> kyle_: more or less everything you didn't install manually
[04:11] <toliman> if it worked before you 'fixed' it... do it from scratch
[04:11] <kyle_> mpupu i was looking in adept and pretty much everything was installed haha
[04:12] <[Relic] > just wondering if I copy over the /usr /bin /etc  etc. directories and reboot will everything previously installed be installed?
[04:12] <kyle_> i dont' think i'll be needing 90% of them
[04:12] <tdmg> toliman, it "worked" better
[04:12] <toliman> at least its not gentoo. all source, all 15 hours needed to get xorg + kde compiled from scratch. one wrong move and its a deep learning curve
[04:12] <fakedsympathy> what's the command to install wine?
[04:12] <tdmg> the resolution was all messed up, and still was/is
[04:12] <toliman> fakedsympathy: from cvs, or from the muiltiverse source list ?
[04:13] <fakedsympathy> uh. i dunno what you just said >_>
[04:13] <fakedsympathy> see, I"m a newb here.
[04:13] <toliman> tdmg: if you try this line ... sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` ...
[04:13] <toliman> that would put all the modules into place that are needed
[04:13] <kyle_> coooool my wine works
[04:13] <toliman> however, reinstall might be quicker
[04:14] <toliman> and less pain
[04:14] <adidas> what do think about "wine" ?
[04:14] <tdmg> I'll ask you about that again when I have Kubuntu running in 30 minutes toliman :D
[04:14] <toliman> fakedsympathy: in adept, check your sources list
[04:14] <kyle_> adidas i dunno my cousin just sent me notepad.exe
[04:14] <toliman> 'manage repositories'
[04:15] <adidas> kyle_: oh really ? mine send me mspaint.exe
[04:15] <fakedsympathy> gimmie a sec
[04:15] <adidas> it's soo cooool
[04:16] <fakedsympathy> Okay I'm in "manage repositories"
[04:16] <fakedsympathy> now what?
[04:16] <toliman> add a new line ...
[04:16] <toliman>  deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[04:16] <toliman>  deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[04:17] <kyle_> whoa i got a problem i can't play mp3
[04:17] <fakedsympathy> Cool, wine shows up now. what's "wine-dev"?
[04:17] <toliman> kyle_: yep
[04:17] <kyle_> amarok opens but there's nothing
[04:18] <toliman> need to update xine/arts something so u can play mp3
[04:18] <toliman> i found that one out yesterday
[04:18] <toliman> it does it automatically tho
[04:19] <toliman> fakedsympathy: anything with -dev is for compiling other programs that need libraries from the original app. irrelevant in most cases
[04:19] <kyle_> toliman how? adept?
[04:20] <toliman> umm ... i cant recall. it just b0rked when i tried it, then said ... installing xine-restricted/extras something
[04:20] <toliman> hmm...
[04:21] <toliman> you have xine as the engine in amarok ?
[04:21] <kyle_> toliman
[04:21] <kyle_> yea
[04:21] <BlackNine> i need some help
[04:21] <BlackNine> getting kubuntu LiveCD running
[04:21] <fakedsympathy> Okay. So I installed wine. Now what do I do? >_> I'm trying to play a game on addictinggames and was told using wine was the only way to get it to work.
[04:21] <BlackNine> I start it up and it gives a blue screen
[04:22] <toliman> fakedsympathy: ahhhh, ok. no.
[04:22] <fakedsympathy> what?
[04:22] <toliman> fakedsympathy: try cedega. it costs like $5, but you can get it from bittorrent.
[04:22] <kyle_> toliman it's installed but how do i update it?
[04:22] <fakedsympathy> The guys I talked to said it needed flash 8 or 9 that linux didn't have
[04:22] <fakedsympathy> so they said wine would work
[04:22] <toliman> ohh
[04:22] <fakedsympathy> money? LOLE. no.
[04:22] <toliman> flash, not wine then
[04:22] <toliman> just flash player
[04:23] <fakedsympathy> that's the thing
[04:23] <fakedsympathy> the latest flashplayer available to linux is 7
[04:23] <fakedsympathy> but this needs higher
[04:23] <fakedsympathy> so they said get wine to emulate it
[04:23] <fakedsympathy> and I have wine now. I just don't know how to use it.
[04:24] <BlackNine> I need help getting kubuntu running, I start it up and it gives a blue screen
[04:25] <BlackNine> without words or anything
[04:25] <toliman> BlackNine: tried installing from the text install menu option ?
[04:25] <kyle_> toliman shoudl i try to reinstall xine
[04:25] <toliman> fakedsympathy: flash8 might be a problem. if swf-player or the GNU swf tools wont play, youll need a wine setup
[04:26] <BlackNine> huh? sorry this is my first time with linux, not i just do normal start up from CD Drive
[04:26] <toliman> kyle_: install the xine extras
[04:26] <fakedsympathy> why is that?
[04:26] <fakedsympathy> doesn't wine just emulate windows?
[04:27] <toliman> its a DLL emulator in a way. it makes windows apps believe they are hooked into windows.
[04:27] <toliman> sort of a half-wacky emulation
[04:27] <kyle_> kk
[04:27] <toliman> there might be a flash8 linux thing on the web
[04:27] <drbreen> its no emulation
[04:27] <drbreen> its an api layer
[04:28] <fakedsympathy> damn this linux stuff confuses my brain v_v
[04:28] <drbreen> thats a big difference
[04:28] <toliman> yes. it is. but api layer is more of a concept than explanation
[04:28] <toliman> anyway
[04:28] <drbreen> yeah but with a windows "emulator" stuff would work on other platforms than i386 too
[04:29] <fakedsympathy> so? What's your point?
[04:29] <fakedsympathy> are you saying pretty much any kinda windows emulator would work or something?
[04:29] <drbreen> an emulator is a fake of the entire device (e.g. a virtuel pc)
[04:29] <D4rkly> wine isnt available for amd64 you need to use i386
[04:29] <fakedsympathy> I'm on i386
[04:29] <drbreen> so with an emulator there be speed problems
[04:30] <drbreen> with this api hook there's only a marginal speed punishment
[04:30] <D4rkly> im running wine and vmware :)
[04:30] <kyle_> toliman there's nothing as xine-extras in adept
[04:31] <toliman> heh .... http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_flash_player
[04:31] <fakedsympathy> what version is that?
[04:31] <D4rkly> i have mp3 support in kaffeine but not amarok ?
[04:31] <fakedsympathy> you sly boots
[04:31] <drbreen> fakedsympathy: download flash player 8 from THE EVIL WEBSITE
[04:31] <drbreen> fakedsympathy: and install it using wine
[04:31] <fakedsympathy> I dunno how to use wine
[04:31] <fakedsympathy> and I dunno what "THE EVIL WEBSITE!" is >_>
[04:31] <toliman> uhh, adept, libxine-extracodecs amarok-xine
[04:32] <drbreen> in a console type: wine myexecutyable.exe
[04:32] <drbreen> or when you click on ot
[04:32] <kyle_> ok search for libxine-extracodecs ?
[04:32] <drbreen> open with "wine"
[04:32] <kyle_> hold on
[04:32] <fakedsympathy> oh. I see
[04:32] <fakedsympathy> thanks
[04:32] <kyle_> toliman foudn it!!!
[04:32] <kyle_> ok
[04:32] <toliman> fakedsympathy: 1) install wine, then 2) win32 version of firefox inside wine, then 3) visit a site that needs flash to install it.
[04:33] <kyle_> what about aRts for xine?
[04:33] <kyle_> what does that do?
[04:33] <drbreen> aRts is an audo engine
[04:33] <drbreen> audio
[04:33] <toliman> arts is the engine for kde/aq
[04:33] <maltaethiron> ok guys, time to help out maltaethiron
[04:33] <toliman> qt
[04:34] <kyle_> uh so do i need that aRts plugin for xine?
[04:34] <toliman> arts runs the sound mixers and audio output in most of the kde audio apps. xine is a video player that also plays audio files
[04:34] <kyle_> ok so best to go yes on it i think
[04:34] <kyle_> brb
[04:34] <DFM> need help trying to reconfigure etho. installed for a friend. worked here but when he plugs in he can't surf on his kubuntu box
[04:35] <DFM> i upgraded his version of kde not thinking about it and now it is a little different
[04:35] <toliman> dfm: what kind of network is it
[04:35] <DFM> so I can't follow along
[04:35] <osiris> what is the equivilent of xscreensaver in kubuntu
[04:35] <DFM> wired ehternet
[04:35] <toliman> osiris: isnt one
[04:35] <osiris> for those of us not using the k in kubuntu
[04:36] <DFM> port is working he has other computer's working fine just need to get the linux box to pull from his network
[04:36] <DFM> dhcp
[04:36] <toliman> xscreensaver hooks into xorg, not a kde thing.
[04:36] <toliman> dfm: check /etc/defaults/network
[04:37] <D4rkly> kaffiene plays off my ntfs drive but amarok wont ?
[04:37] <toliman> erm, /etc/network/interfaces
[04:37] <toliman> i was thinking of something else
[04:37] <kyle_> shyt
[04:37] <maltaethiron> i need to play DVDs cause im going on vacation...how do i do this?    note: kaffeine gives me an odd error
[04:37] <kyle_> mp3s still wont work
[04:37] <DFM> ah thats why I can't find it lol
[04:37] <maltaethiron> is there any other program i can get?
[04:38] <toliman> dfm: tried dhclient eth0 ?
[04:38] <kyle_> it tells me playlist finished
[04:38] <DFM> what do I need to look for in here?
[04:38] <toliman> maltaethiron: try another app. vlc / ogle, xine-ui. do a search
[04:38] <drbreen> malthaethiron: use Videolan Client (VLC Media Player)
[04:38] <drbreen> its in universe
[04:38] <DFM> blows my mind that he couldn't just plug in and go
[04:39] <maltaethiron> ok thanks drbreen
[04:39] <maltaethiron> and toliman
[04:39] <drbreen> !VLC > maltaethiron
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about VLC - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <drbreen> !dvd > maltaethiron
[04:39] <toliman> dfm: dhcp isnt always auto. you can run ifup eth0 as well
[04:39] <maltaethiron> ill get it through synaptic
[04:39] <toliman> yup
[04:39] <DFM> that command from a shell?
[04:39] <toliman> sudo ifup eth0
[04:40] <DFM> keep forgetting the super user
[04:40] <toliman> :)
[04:40] <toliman> its chronic
[04:40] <DFM> lol
[04:43] <kyle_> man this is not good
[04:43] <kyle_> can't play mp3s
[04:43] <kyle_> do i need to reboot or what
[04:44] <kyle_> brb
[04:45] <toliman> eh, close amarok, open it again
[04:46] <tk> was anyone else in here interested in those wallpapers that we were discussing the other night?
[04:46] <adidas> what is Xorg?
[04:46] <tdmg> toliman, okay now, I've reinstalled Kubuntu.  Now I want to update everything and get all the programs that I'll need for daily stuff.  Can you help me out? :D
[04:46] <erofee> you know what would be a great feature for k/ubuntu.
[04:46] <D4rkly> how can i get my ati usb rf remote to work ?
[04:46] <erofee> the ability to rate packages in adept/synaptic
[04:47] <adidas> it tooks so much of my memory :(
[04:47] <erofee> so that way when you were after an application to do X and you found 5 of them, you could pick the best one first off.
[04:48] <tk> erofee: te "best" is more often than not a relative term to the person using it ;)
[04:48] <toliman> erofee: yeah ... i know what you mean
[04:48] <erofee> that's true
[04:48] <erofee> but it took me weeks to get onto amarok.
[04:48] <toliman> once youve seen 'ogle', you wonder who would ever use it.
[04:48] <erofee> i was using kaffeine for sooo long.
[04:48] <tdmg> toliman, *poke* :P
[04:48] <tk> some people think Paint Shop Pro is the best thing in the world... others (like me) cant stand it.... :P
[04:49] <kyle_> back
[04:49] <toliman> tdmg: automatix
[04:49] <erofee> GIMP....that's the ticket
[04:49] <toliman> will save you about 20 minutes
[04:49] <tdmg> automatix?
[04:49] <toliman> do a web search
[04:49] <tdmg> okay
[04:49] <toliman> automatix ubuntu
[04:49] <trpr11> i don't think rating the packages would be productive for the developers of all those applications that weren't so popular
[04:49] <erofee> that is true
[04:49] <toliman> add the repos using adept and copy/paste
[04:50] <kyle_> d
[04:50] <toliman> and the script does the rest
[04:50] <h3sp4wn> I would strongly advise against automatix (having seen it trash many systems)
[04:50] <tdmg> toliman, automatix is better than easyubuntu?
[04:51] <h3sp4wn> tdmg: I would recommend against using any of those things and following the restricted howto
[04:51] <h3sp4wn> !restricted
[04:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:52] <camerons> anyone know how to get kmail to sync an imap account so I can then go offline and still read all the messages?
[04:52] <tdmg> thanks :D
[04:52] <toliman> well, restricted is fun. so it doing stuff the long way
[04:52] <tdmg> I want to update my kernel first.  What is the right way to do it? because last time I messed up :(
[04:53] <toliman> why update ?
[04:53] <tdmg> so I shouldn't update everything?
[04:54] <toliman> preferably, stick with the release modules first, since they are compatible with the kernel images & apps
[04:54] <[Relic] > how do you mount HDs with the live cd running?
[04:54] <[Relic] > mount
[04:55] <camerons> anyone know anything about kmail with imap?
[04:55] <toliman> [Relic] :  the hal / pmount progs  usually mount all the FS it recognises into the /media/ folder.
[04:56] <swatgoss> how to verifiy i use a SMP kernel ?
[04:56] <toliman> swatgoss: uname -a
[04:56] <swatgoss> ty
[04:56] <D4rkly> will lirc work for rf remotes too ?
[04:56] <h3sp4wn> swatgoss: cat /proc/cpuinfo (see if you have 2 proc's listed)
[04:56] <swatgoss> some guys here got HT P4 on laptops ?
[04:56] <tdmg> so, no updating my kernel? I'm still confused.......
[04:57] <swatgoss> h3sp4wn uname -a works too :p
[04:57] <tdmg> I just want to make sure
[04:57] <trpr11> tdmg: i wouldn't unless you have a reason (ie to get some funky hardware working)
[04:57] <toliman> tricky stuff SMP. /proc isnt entirely reliable.
[04:57] <tdmg> okay
[04:57] <tdmg> now, the nVidia drivers
[04:57] <kyle_> toliman my mp3s still won't work
[04:57] <kyle_> any ideas?
[04:57] <h3sp4wn> swatgoss: but that won't tell you whether hyperthreading is working
[04:57] <swatgoss> kyle_ do u got all codecs ?
[04:58] <toliman> kyle_: go into amarok config, see what the engine is called
[04:58] <kyle_> well yea i installed the extra xine pack
[04:58] <swatgoss> h3sp4wn i think it is ... the CPU fan is working ALL time ...
[04:58] <kyle_> k
[04:58] <swatgoss> under win it work 30sec every 2minutes ...
[04:58] <swatgoss> kyle_ ALL codecs ?
[04:58] <kyle_> it's xine engine
[04:58] <h3sp4wn> swatgoss: If you are not running the 686 kernel (in uname -r) then you can't have hyperthreading
[04:58] <toliman> swatgoss: cpufreq-info
[04:58] <tdmg> guys, when I search for nVidia in adept I only get "nvidia-kernel-common" what happened to everything else?
[04:58] <swatgoss> kyle_ and i got some problems with some mp3 on my sys too
[04:59] <kyle_> yea what's up with that
[04:59] <kyle_> kaffiene same chyt
[04:59] <swatgoss> kyle_ encode ur mp3 to ogg :p
[04:59] <toliman> it might be that its under 'restricted' license
[04:59] <erofee> what errors are you getting, if any?
[05:00] <swatgoss> h3sp4wn CAN'T ?
[05:00] <kyle_> restricted?
[05:00] <tdmg> so how do I get access to the nVidia drivers?
[05:00] <[Relic] > Device is not removable error with pmount
[05:00] <swatgoss> h3sp4wn why this should be deactivated on 686 kernels ?
[05:00] <DFM> use easyubuntu for the driver's
[05:00] <erofee> tdmg: you could try the nVidia website.
[05:00] <h3sp4wn> swatgoss: I didn't say that it only works on the 686 kernel
[05:00] <tdmg> why would something so common as an nVidia driver be restricted?
[05:00] <DFM> that to nvidia does have a linux driver
[05:00] <toliman> nvidia stuff should have nvidia-glx everywhere
[05:01] <trpr11> tdmg: its not open source. nvidia gave us the middle finger.
[05:01] <swatgoss> h3sp4wn sry my mistake
[05:01] <DFM> proprietary (bad spelling)
[05:01] <tdmg> but just yesterday I had a whole slue of nVidia packages to choose from......
[05:01] <swatgoss> h3sp4wn its 5am in my country ... i'am a bit tired i think :p
[05:01] <erofee> did you run an update
[05:01] <swatgoss> h3sp4wn and i got a 686 SMP kernel
[05:01] <erofee> maybe your most recent update wiped the packages from the list
[05:01] <DFM> however they do have a driver you can download but if I am not mistaken you will have to compile it against your kernel. not hard though
[05:01] <toliman> debian is anal about OSS , if it's not source compiled, its restricted
[05:02] <tdmg> erofee, I just reinstalled Kubuntu :P
[05:02] <erofee> that could be it
[05:02] <tdmg> so......
[05:02] <toliman> so hardware drivers, licensed software, voip, mp3, mpeg2, dvd css, etc. is all restricted
[05:02] <erofee> try the nVidia website to see if they offer it.,
[05:02] <trpr11> they offer it of course
[05:02] <tdmg> couldn't I just open my repos or something?
[05:02] <DFM> they do I have used it before
[05:03] <toliman> its all available, but you need to modify your repositories so that apt can access nvidia stuff
[05:03] <DFM> you could use easyubuntu to install it
[05:03] <erofee> if you can download the debian install you can just cli install it
[05:03] <DFM> at least it says it will, I have ati and have a much more difficult time
[05:03] <tdmg> is it a bad idea to enable all my repos though?
[05:03] <swatgoss> is there a way to control fans with a "embedded program" ?
[05:03] <erofee> it is really up to you
[05:04] <tdmg> I don't know the pros and cons
[05:04] <kyle_> what do u mean ? why restricted?
[05:04] <kyle_> they don't like music?
[05:04] <swatgoss> kyle_ mpeg layer 3 = Fraunhoffer ...
[05:04] <swatgoss> not free
[05:05] <trpr11> kyle_: restricted as in not an open format.. as in a company somewhere charges people to program players that will use the format
[05:05] <erofee> if you open universe/multiverse repos, you are letting yourself have access to a wider range of not-thoroughly tested apps
[05:05] <kyle_> so thats why my kaffiene and amarok can't play my mp3s?
[05:05] <erofee> i have never struck a problem with any packages i have got from them, but you never know.
[05:05] <swatgoss> kyle_ i don't think ... probably an encoding stuff that is bugging ...
[05:06] <toliman> mp3 codec and tech is licensed to fraunhofer group. fhg. they developed mpeg1 layer 3 tech. but layer 2 is ok.
[05:06] <toliman> its just wierd restrictions is all
[05:06] <DFM> any one have any idea why sometimes when I boot my machine my resolution will go to 800x600 when default is 1024x768. It just started doing it. I have rebooted and restarted x several times. my wife's desktop will only display 8x6
[05:06] <kyle_> isn't there a way to make it work against that then?
[05:06] <swatgoss> kyle_ if u want them NOW
[05:06] <swatgoss> install XMMS
[05:06] <trpr11> kyle_: i think all you need is the libmad0 package.. not sure though
[05:06] <kyle_> awwww
[05:07] <swatgoss> or try to get some codecs ...
[05:07] <toliman> if you change the repository entry to deb http://blah dapper main ..... to dapper "main restricted universe multiverse "
[05:07] <toliman> and then update it, no more problems
[05:07] <kyle_> swatgoss i installed the xine extra codecs already but still same problem
[05:07] <swatgoss> kyle_ i do it too ... it play some mp3 but not 100% of them
[05:08] <kyle_> man i never heard of this kinda problem
[05:08] <kyle_> some mp3 works but not all hahaha
[05:08] <swatgoss> codecs used to encode them ...
[05:08] <swatgoss> vbr ...
[05:08] <swatgoss> profiles ...
[05:08] <kyle_> i think i did add restricted universe multi
[05:08] <swatgoss> all kind of stuff like that
[05:08] <kyle_> o
[05:08] <toliman> yeah, mp3 is a shitstorm in linux circles... since you throretically have to pay to encode/decode it.
[05:08] <[Relic] > think I need to edit the fstab but not 100% sure what I need to copy this one drive onto the next
[05:09] <swatgoss> all this kind of parameters can bug the playback
[05:09] <trpr11> there isn't drm in the mp3s are there? would make sense if only *some* of them refused to play
[05:09] <toliman> not so much now, but its why its not included on the distribution.
[05:09] <swatgoss> toliman shitstorm ... in french its "tempete de merdes" ... sounds good :p
[05:10] <kyle_> man if they got dvd to play on linux i sure don't see why the heck not
[05:10] <swatgoss> DVD = AC3 ...
[05:10] <keleus> amarok won't use visualizations, says libvisual might not be installed. It is... what do I try next...
[05:10] <toliman> trpr11: not the files itself, the tech is licensed to fhg. each time you decode an mp3, someone has paid (ideally you) for the ability to decode it. companies usually foot the bill to buy a license and break the cost down
[05:10] <swatgoss> or some other specifik codecs
[05:10] <kyle_> the idea just pissed me off not the OS
[05:10] <toliman> sme with ac3 and DTS,
[05:11] <maltaethiron> guys, still having problems playing DVDs
[05:11] <trpr11> toliman: hrm. thats what i thought. so there isn't anything in the mp3 itself that would prevent it from playing on an unlicensed player?
[05:11] <maltaethiron> how would i play a DVD in vlc
[05:11] <toliman> maltaethiron: open drive
[05:11] <swatgoss> but ac3 have lot less personalised codecs
[05:11] <maltaethiron> (just wanna make sure theres nothng tricky)
[05:11] <toliman> bleh, open disc
[05:11] <maltaethiron> toliman: like physically or on the computer
[05:11] <maltaethiron> ?
[05:11] <keleus> maltaethiron, go to open disc, and choose dvd(menus)
[05:11] <swatgoss> maltaethiron do you have libdvdcss2 or something like that ?
[05:11] <toliman> theres a menu item called open disc
[05:12] <maltaethiron> no swatgoss
[05:12] <toliman> you *might* need libdvdcss2 ... HEH
[05:12] <swatgoss> maltaethiron try to get them :p
[05:12] <toliman> thats not going to be fun.
[05:12] <keleus> maltaethiron, hold on
[05:12] <maltaethiron> well, lets do this
[05:12] <swatgoss> !codecs
[05:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:12] <kyle_> ok so does anybody know which repository main restricted universe multi for an all rounded mp3 engine?
[05:12] <Iam8up> !hcl
[05:12] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:13] <swatgoss> kyle_ XMMS
[05:13] <swatgoss> play all mp3
[05:13] <swatgoss> winamp like ...
[05:13] <keleus> maltaethiron, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-38508785e53c611dde1859232189b2e823135eb9
[05:13] <swatgoss> (install XMMS skins package too :p some are not bad)
[05:13] <keleus> to jump to your question specifically
[05:14] <kyle_> yea i kno
[05:14] <toliman> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205467&highlight=libdvdcss2
[05:14] <kyle_> can kaffiene or amarok use xmms mp3 engine?
[05:14] <S|lv3r_d|CK> spanish
[05:14] <Iam8up> questino..if ubuntu supports it, does kubuntu support it? how well do kubuntu and ubuntu go together? what i mean is..if theres a change with ubuntu, is kubuntu parralled to the change?
[05:14] <kyle_> in any way?
[05:14] <swatgoss> i don't think so
[05:14] <kyle_> ahhhhh
[05:14] <kyle_> hah
[05:14] <swatgoss> its XMMS plugins
[05:14] <kyle_> i thot i got some linux smarts
[05:14] <keleus> Iam8up, kubuntu = ubuntu but with KDE default not Gnome. They have all the same packages
[05:15] <kyle_> i'm sure xmms is opensource rite
[05:15] <Iam8up> keleus - ok, thanks
[05:15] <toliman> kyle_: switch to amarok-arts in adept. see if it helps
[05:15] <kyle_> so in theory.............
[05:15] <swatgoss> kyle_ opensource doesnt mean compatible :p
[05:15] <kyle_> redevelop a xmms mp3 plugin for amarok/kaffiend
[05:15] <swatgoss> probably already done
[05:15] <S|lv3r_d|CK> HELP
[05:16] <kyle_> really?
[05:16] <toliman> Iam8up: you just need to install kubuntu-desktop, it makes the change for you.
[05:16] <DFM> I have a question. I have about 10 gigs of downloaded music all with drm and require winmedia 10. any way to play them on linux?
[05:16] <kyle_> already done as in u know where or have seen it somewhere?
[05:16] <Iam8up> toliman - what changes..?
[05:16] <kyle_> brb
[05:16] <syntaxx> anyone using tvtime? my sound seems not working properly
[05:16] <swatgoss> woot a bug :p
[05:16] <toliman> changes to the bootup, installs kde apps, etc. you can have both
[05:17] <toliman> but you can only have one kind of boot manager,
[05:17] <[Relic] > what's the best way to copy on drive to another  -dpRv *  ?
[05:17] <swatgoss> speaking about boot ... how to remove/remove a kernel image ?
[05:17] <[Relic] > ls -la
[05:17] <toliman> [Relic] : dd is the best way. but unorthodox
[05:17] <kyle_> toliman installing amarok-arts in adept
[05:17] <swatgoss> lol remove/deinstall sry
[05:17] <[Relic] > :)
[05:17] <toliman> swatgoss: remove the kernel itself or the entry in grub ?
[05:18] <swatgoss> entry and image
[05:18] <toliman> either way, its in /boot/
[05:18] <Dani> question: i installed firefox in kubuntu drapper but when click the executable nothing happens
[05:18] <kyle_> wow this is nuts i didn't know mp3 was restricted
[05:18] <toliman> vmlinuz-version and initrd-version. dont do it lightly
[05:18] <kyle_> i've never heard of anything that's "restricted" format
[05:18] <swatgoss> in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:18] <keleus> freaking javascript! sf.net download script is not only annoying but has killed konquerer on me twice...
[05:18] <[Relic] > what is dd?    (basically I am replacing a drive that is questionable in preformance so I don't want to reset everything on the new drive)
[05:19] <kyle_> i mean coming from goody mac /windows environ
[05:19] <toliman> kyle_: if you can make money from it, its likely to be licensed.
[05:19] <kyle_> heh
[05:19] <toliman> drugs, alcohol, firearms, mp3's, dvd's
[05:19] <kyle_> yeap
[05:19] <kyle_> brb
[05:20] <keleus> ARG 3 times now. wget time
[05:20] <syntaxx> anyone using tvtime? my sound seems not working properly
[05:20] <toliman> [Relic] : dd copies the raw data from the disc, byte by byte from the drive in raw form. like norton ghost does.
[05:21] <toliman> [Relic] : you can use a regular backup app, which reads the filesystem and uses compression, error checking, etc.
[05:21] <Dani> which is best irc client for windows
[05:21] <DFM> chatzilla
[05:21] <swatgoss> Dani mIRC ?
[05:21] <swatgoss> i only used this one
[05:21] <toliman> Dani, mIRC is the first choice. not best, but first.
[05:21] <Dani> how about hydra irc
[05:21] <[Relic] > not backing it up though everything needs to be normal and usable once I shut down and remove the old drive
[05:21] <syntaxx> i wonder whats wrong in tvtime sound in debian it works fine but when i shift to ubuntu my sound not working properly anyone who can help me?
[05:22] <stray77> you can check alsamixer settings
[05:22] <toliman> if youre lucky you can even get IRC in firefox as a plugin
[05:22] <bubs> dani: xchat
[05:22] <swatgoss> Konversation isn' on win ?
[05:22] <DFM> that's what I use w/o any problems and it's easy to get
[05:22] <swatgoss> +t
[05:22] <syntaxx> stray77: tvtime have sound but no voices
[05:22] <Dani> yeah i want a plugin for firefox
[05:22] <DFM> when on kubuntu box I use konversation
[05:22] <Dani> but my firefox doesn't startup on kubuntu
[05:23] <swatgoss> do u restarted the GUI ?
[05:23] <DFM> remove it and erinstall it
[05:23] <swatgoss> since u installed Ffox ?
[05:23] <toliman> yup. you can make knoversation like mIRC and mIRC like konversation
[05:23] <swatgoss> toliman not only the interface
[05:23] <Dani> well i used the script the from kubuntu support forums
[05:24] <toliman> well, all the shortcuts look/work ok too
[05:24] <swatgoss> complete/free "moving" (portage in french) of Konversation to win
[05:24] <Dani> i also did the tar zip thing for firefox and went directly to folder and tried to start it but nothing happens
[05:25] <Dani> i guess it might be system requirements but i am total noob
[05:25] <swatgoss> system ?
[05:25] <toliman> Dani, its probably a linux thing
[05:25] <swatgoss> i d'ont think :p
[05:25] <DFM> dani, did you try and get it from adept?
[05:25] <swatgoss> Dani Firefox could run on my smartphone :p
[05:25] <toliman> Dani: if you unpacked firefox-bin, did you chmod u+x
[05:26] <Dani> does anybody know something similar but open source to VM WARE WORKSTATION
[05:26] <toliman> use a package manager, its faster, cleaner, easier, less prone to evil
[05:26] <toliman> vmware player
[05:26] <DFM> amen
[05:26] <Kiongku> hey guys.. my kpersonalizer keeps showing up at each session.. how i stop it
[05:26] <keleus> Dani, Xen, or qemu
[05:26] <swatgoss> what kind oe "evil" ?
[05:26] <swatgoss> -e +f
[05:26] <Dani> no i didn't use chmod u+x after unpacking
[05:26] <DFM> the evil that makes ur head hurt trying to figure something out
[05:26] <keleus> Dani, but VMWARE Server is currently free (as in $$$)
[05:26] <syntaxx> i wonder whats wrong in tvtime sound in debian it works fine but when i shift to ubuntu my sound not working properly anyone who can help me?
[05:27] <Dani> i am very new to linux
[05:27] <keleus> Dani, suggested reading: http://tldp.org
[05:27] <toliman> evil, as in the random acts that installing and updating software can make things very broken if the files are needed elsewhere
[05:27] <swatgoss> lol
[05:27] <toliman> syntaxx: tvtime uses esd ?
[05:27] <DFM> dani you have to make the package and make it executable
[05:27] <DFM> I think that was put right
[05:28] <syntaxx> toliman: no idea
[05:28] <Dani> thankx i am currently reading the linuxcommand.org to learn bash
[05:28] <keleus> Dani, linux like systems are more secure then windows in that files need to be marked as executable before the system will run them as programs/scripts
[05:28] <toliman> uhuh. in tvtime, what does it say under output.
[05:29] <Dani> how do i mark it executable
[05:29] <syntaxx> toliman: in output configuration is just the overscan settings apply matte 16:9 output all about windows
[05:29] <syntaxx> toliman: but in input conf preferred audio mode mono stereo sap
[05:29] <keleus> your opinion: bison or byacc?
[05:29] <CVirus> anybody using gmail with Kmail ?
[05:30] <swatgoss> Dani try to use ADEPT or synaptic most of the time u install things (this words mean "use it everytime")
[05:30] <keleus> CVirus, yea
[05:30] <CVirus> keleus: what are the exact settings for sending ?
[05:30] <keleus> CVirus, hold on a sec
[05:30] <CVirus> keleus: sure
[05:30] <syntaxx> toliman: my sound is just buzzzz no voices
[05:30] <Dani> well when i load adept what do i do
[05:30] <keleus> host smtp.gmail.com
[05:30] <toliman> using dvb or analog tuner ?
[05:30] <DFM> i couldn't get evolution working because of certain ports needing to be set up, haven't tried kmail
[05:30] <swatgoss> Dani search for program u want to install
[05:30] <keleus> port 465
[05:31] <keleus> requires authentication
[05:31] <keleus> use your full email as account
[05:31] <swatgoss> Dani then request install :p and its done ...
[05:31] <syntaxx> toliman: im using pinnacle tv tuner
[05:31] <keleus> use SSL encryption and PLAIN login-type
[05:31] <toliman> keleus: i think it needs pop-then-smtp for login credentials. i cant remember
[05:31] <CVirus> keleus: login ?
[05:31] <swatgoss> Dani it will /downlaod/install everything it will need
[05:32] <swatgoss> Dani and make a beautiful shortcut in the correct cat. of programs in K menu
[05:32] <Dani> thankx guys
[05:32] <keleus> CVirus, hold on
[05:32] <Dani> did anybody check out the google notebooks
[05:32] <kyle_> swatgoss what is Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) and Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger)  ?
[05:32] <Dani> its pretty cool now i can save all my notes online
[05:32] <_kapay_> #msg nickserv indetify
[05:32] <swatgoss> kyle_ 2 versions of Ubuntu :p
[05:32] <toliman> notebooks ?
[05:32] <swatgoss> kyle_ 5.10 is "ancient"
[05:32] <Dani> yes its a new service by google
[05:32] <DFM> kyle, dapper is the latest version with Long Term Support
[05:33] <toliman> you can always dist-upgrade to dapper
[05:33] <kyle_> i found codec for the two versions of ubuntu but tey're different
[05:33] <swatgoss> kyle_ prefer dapper ...
[05:33] <Dani> goto google labs and click google notebooks
[05:33] <kyle_> ok
[05:33] <Dani> if u need a gmail invite let me know
[05:33] <toliman> dapper will stay minty fresh for longer, theoreteically
[05:33] <DFM> anyone got gmail to work in evolution?
[05:33] <toliman> until 6.11 comes out
[05:34] <toliman> ive got gmail to work in outlook, i dont imagine it to be any more difficult
[05:34] <DFM> it is
[05:34] <swatgoss> toliman ?!? outlook ?
[05:34] <toliman> use the outlook settings from the gmail support pages
[05:34] <DFM> doesn't give me a place to set the ports that gmail requires
[05:34] <keleus> CVirus, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1356706 - instructions for KMAIL midway down the first post
[05:34] <maltaethiron> toliman and swatgoss: you made it sound like getting libdvdcss2 would be hard
[05:34] <stray77> at least he didnt say outlook express
[05:34] <CVirus> DFM: try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[05:34] <CVirus> keleus: Thanks alot
[05:35] <DFM> ah well duh I should have known, thanks
[05:35] <swatgoss> maltaethiron add repos, install libdvdcss2 and play dvd ?
[05:35] <swatgoss> maltaethiron u could need some other codecs too
[05:35] <maltaethiron> swatgoss: i already took care of my repos like a week ago..i just got libdvdcss2 and now the dvds work fine
[05:35] <swatgoss> !codecs
[05:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:35] <keleus> How do I set up my system to use "-02 -pipe" all the time when compiling?
[05:36] <on3egs> je suis la ?
[05:36] <swatgoss> maltaethiron u get all codecs from the list here ?https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:36] <syntaxx> hmm
[05:36] <h3sp4wn> keleus: put it in CFLAGS
[05:36] <maltaethiron> on3egs: tu parles francais?
[05:36] <syntaxx> well i think ill be back my debian box =\
[05:36] <D4rkly> has anyone got the ati rf remote to work with lirc ?
[05:36] <swatgoss> t'es francais en plus ... mais c'est pas permis de pas demander :p
[05:37] <on3egs> oui belgique
[05:37] <keleus> h3sp4wn, is that variable stored somewhere on ubuntu? every other distro ive tried had /etc/make.conf but not here :/
[05:37] <swatgoss> pas possible parfois IRC ...
[05:37] <CVirus> keleus: Unrecognized sending protocol .. unable to send
[05:37] <CVirus> transport*
[05:37] <on3egs> lol je suis new sous unbuntu
[05:37] <maltaethiron> swatgoss: did you just say that its against the rules in here? haha, its been a few months since i last spoke french
[05:38] <swatgoss> Ubuntu ou Kubuntu ?
[05:38] <keleus> CVirus, use SMTP not sendmail, if you arn't already
[05:38] <on3egs> je suis windowsien et veux devenire linuxiens lol
[05:38] <swatgoss> maltaethiron ... mouarf
[05:38] <h3sp4wn> keleus: just put it in your .bashrc
[05:38] <swatgoss> on3egs amene tes miches sur #Kubuntu-fr
[05:38] <CVirus> keleus: its SMTP for sure
[05:38] <h3sp4wn> keleus: I think its only bsd type distro's that have /etc/make.conf
[05:38] <keleus> h3sp4wn, can you give me an example? so i dont mess my syntax?
[05:38] <on3egs> oui
[05:39] <on3egs> c dja fait de puis quelque jours :)
[05:39] <toliman> CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe"
[05:39] <keleus> h3sp4wn, export CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
[05:39] <kyle_> toliman how can i install a .deb package in kubuntu?
[05:39] <Dani> what do i need to run my kubuntu windows server or windows server client from vm ware
[05:39] <toliman> dpkg -i
[05:39] <h3sp4wn> keleus: yep you would probably want to set the arch though
[05:39] <Megaqwerty> I'm installing KDE on Ubuntu and it is asking me what I want for my Postfix configuration...What is that?
[05:39] <on3egs> pas bcp de francais ici ?
[05:40] <maltaethiron> on3egs: est-ce que tu parles anlgais?
[05:40] <toliman> Megaqwerty: postfix = local mail server
[05:40] <maltaethiron> anglais**
[05:40] <on3egs> no sorry men :) dsoler pas vraiment lol dommage pour moi
[05:40] <Megaqwerty> so, what do I want to select?
[05:40] <keleus> h3sp4wn, "Linux epicenter 2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 03:13:28 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux" - use i686 for the arch?
[05:40] <toliman> Megaqwerty: use localhost if its an option.
[05:41] <on3egs> j ai un strees sur adept manager
[05:41] <Megaqwerty> thanks...I have "Local only"
[05:41] <Megaqwerty> should I use that?
[05:41] <swatgoss> viens sur #kubuntu-fr
[05:41] <on3egs> veux plus dmarrer
[05:41] <on3egs> comment je fais
[05:41] <on3egs> comment je fais ?
[05:41] <swatgoss> clic sur le lien en bleu ptetre ? :p
[05:41] <on3egs> lol oki
[05:41] <swatgoss> ou tu tapes /join #kubuntu-fr
[05:41] <Kiongku_> bah.. on ne parle pas francais ici :D
[05:41] <toliman> yep, if your CPU is a pentium 3 or 4 / amd athlon, i686 is fine as arch.
[05:41] <Dani> ---keleus--- do i need the vm ware server or the server client
[05:42] <Kiongku_> maltaethiron: francais O_o
[05:42] <swatgoss> Kiongku_ belge je crois
[05:42] <toliman> bonjour, cava, je ne pas francais
[05:42] <on3egs> oui
[05:42] <Kiongku_> ah lol dac
[05:42] <maltaethiron> kiongku: oui, et?
[05:42] <on3egs> Enghien 7850
[05:42] <Megaqwerty> toliman: should I make the mail name "localhost" ?
[05:42] <swatgoss> moi francais pas contre
[05:42] <on3egs> lol
[05:42] <toliman> yep
[05:43] <swatgoss> paR contre
[05:43] <Kiongku_> maltaethiron: rien.. :P juste par simple curiosity.. ok i stopping talking french
[05:43] <swatgoss> mouhahaha
[05:43] <Megaqwerty> simple percentage this has french channel?
[05:43] <maltaethiron> haha, nice kiongku...yeah i just took it in school
[05:43] <on3egs> bye les amis ;)  73
[05:43] <maltaethiron> i speak it a lot though
[05:43] <on3egs> gtood bye my friends 73
[05:43] <maltaethiron> bye on3egs
[05:44] <Kiongku_> curiosite but dunt know wehre the freaking special characters in linux
[05:44] <keleus> aaah march=pentium4 would be better
[05:44] <maltaethiron> me niether
[05:44] <keleus> if i want MMX and such
[05:44] <swatgoss> yep, difficult tu make an  with QWERTY
[05:44] <Kiongku_> maltaethiron: btw u know where kdestart is in kubuntu?
[05:44] <toliman> must be the 6 hours i spent not sleeping in french class. i only remember bad greetings, counting and how to insult french people (pretend u have an american accent)
[05:44] <Kiongku_> swagoss; hahaha
[05:44] <Kiongku_> *swatgoss: hahaha
[05:44] <snowman_> wondering if anyone could give me a hand with a stupid, yet annoying, floppy drive question :P
[05:44] <Megaqwerty> Merci pour votre aide!
[05:45] <maltaethiron> uh, isnt kde a part of kubuntu
[05:45] <maltaethiron> ?
[05:45] <Dani> in firefox does anybody if its possible to turn off flash pictures sounds active x with 1 click each separatly
[05:45] <keleus> h3sp4wn, should i use march or mtune? If for some reason i change kernel to i386 or i586?
[05:45] <snowman_> basically, I have the normal fstab line, and no matter what disk I put in it's telling me I have to specify the fs type.
[05:45] <Kiongku> maltaethiron: yeah.. but kpersonalizer keeps springing up each time i start kde
[05:45] <toliman> Kiongku: open .kderc
[05:45] <swatgoss> some1 want special lesson for french insults ?
[05:45] <Snowmadic> this I have: /dev/fd0        /media/floppy   auto    rw,user,noauto,sync     0       0
[05:46] <maltaethiron> swatgoss: i have this book called merde
[05:46] <h3sp4wn> keleus: I would use march but unless you are going to use apt-build to rebuild everything anything from the repos won't be optimised
[05:46] <maltaethiron> swatgoss: its kicks ass
[05:46] <swatgoss> do u read "Ta mere" from Arthur
[05:46] <maltaethiron> swatgoss: its labeled as "all the stuff you DIDNT learn in french class"
[05:46] <maltaethiron> no
[05:46] <maltaethiron> where are you from swatgoss?
[05:46] <swatgoss> South of france
[05:47] <Kiongku> toliman: .kderc where?
[05:47] <swatgoss> Montpellier
[05:47] <maltaethiron> ah nice, im just some kid from america that took french in school
[05:47] <Kiongku> i'm from ile de france or the former ile de france :p
[05:47] <toliman> in 90% of cases, custom cflags dont add performance benefits. however, you have to spend a lot of time (installing gentoo for instance) to find this out.
[05:47] <syntaxx> i wonder whats wrong in tvtime sound in debian it works fine but when i shift to ubuntu my sound not working properly anyone who can help me?
[05:48] <keleus> h3sp4wn, well the few things im going to build are going to be CPU intensive...
[05:48] <maltaethiron> thats cool that you folks are from france
[05:48] <toliman> Kiongku: check ~/.kderc or ~/.kde/Autostart/
[05:48] <toliman> places in ~/.kde/ might help
[05:48] <Snowmadic> montpellier, VT?
[05:48] <Kiongku> toliman ~/.kderc does not exist and there's no script in Autostart
[05:48] <h3sp4wn> keleus: Are they already in the repositories ? (if they are you can optimise with apt-build)
[05:48] <Hawkwind> VT = Vermont
[05:48] <swatgoss> how to use more than 5 partitions in ubiquity ? (Kubuntu live CD installer)
[05:48] <maltaethiron> VT = ?
[05:49] <maltaethiron> ah
[05:49] <h3sp4wn> keleus: Or if they are in debian sid or edgy you can also use apt-build and backport
[05:49] <maltaethiron> here comes hawkwind to save the day
[05:49] <Snowmadic> vermont, yes.  that's what I was asking.
[05:49] <Kiongku> haha
[05:49] <keleus> h3sp4wn, nope, not in the repos (too recent)
[05:49] <Kiongku> BRB.. going to restart to check if that f****ing kpersonalizer keeps showing his nose
[05:49] <h3sp4wn> keleus: even not in debian unstable/experimental ?
[05:49] <toliman> umm ... kde does stuff ... by tiself all the time
[05:49] <maltaethiron> good luck kiongku
[05:50] <Snowmadic> *ponder* no suggestions on the fstab thing then?
[05:50] <syanures> forgot to say hi.
[05:50] <syanures> hi all
[05:50] <Snowmadic> greetings syanures
[05:51] <keleus> h3sp4wn, checking
[05:51] <keleus> h3sp4wn, yep, its in the repos. just download the .deb and use dpkg? ( i dont want to have the whole debian tree in my repos )
[05:52] <h3sp4wn> keleus: no add the deb-src line and use apt-build to optimise it
[05:52] <Dani> chat zilla doesn't have spyware right
[05:53] <keleus> h3sp4wn, i dont feel like doing that really..
[05:53] <DFM> not that I am aware of. just download the extension through your firefox browser
[05:53] <Danish> cool thankx dfm
[05:53] <keleus> h3sp4wn, but i may do that all later...
[05:53] <DFM> np
[05:53] <Danish> it chatzilla feels a little slow
[05:53] <Snowmadic> argh.  what's the point of an "auto" option if you still get told to specify the type?
[05:54] <h3sp4wn> keleus: If you just force install those deb's you will probably have problems
[05:54] <toliman> Dani: you never know unless you read all the source code... but no. no spyware.
[05:54] <DFM> I only use cz when I am on my win system and it seems to take awhile to log in to a channel but after that it's fine
[05:54] <Dani> thankx
[05:54] <DFM> no probs ever with anything related to forefox, as of yet anyway
[05:54] <toliman> use merk. thats what its there for. the login time is usually the server getting to know you
[05:55] <Dani> how do i add to favorites on chatzilla
[05:55] <Danish> nvm got it
[05:55] <Danish> i selected open this channel at startup
[05:56] <DFM> that's what I did since I only use a few channels
[05:56] <keleus> h3sp4wn, if i do then i will just build them myself :) i was halfway done before i stopped to pursue this :)
[05:56] <Danish> i am gonna be on kubuntu channel for quite a while i fell in love with linux b/c of BASH its so powerful
[05:57] <kyle_> toliman i tried sudo dpkg -i sharpmusique_1.0-1_i386.deb and it wont work
[05:57] <Danish> i ultimately want to build using linux from scratch as guide A FLAVOR for developing C++ apps
[05:58] <farous> kyle_: did you look for sharpmusique in the repos
[05:58] <toliman> Danish: if you want to do the whole LFS thing, you can also start with gentoo
[05:58] <Danish> which one is better btwn debian and gentoo
[05:59] <Danish> i heard gentoo is extremely stable
[05:59] <kyle_> yea i did
[05:59] <keleus> h3sp4wn, as you expected - they didnt like my glibc version (oh well, it compiles fine)
[05:59] <toliman> or, if you really want to learn, delete a whole bunch of random files in /lib/ and then get the system working again without using a package manager
[05:59] <swatgoss> !sharpmusique
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sharpmusique - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <farous> !find sharpmusique
[05:59] <ubotu> No packages matching 'sharpmusique' could be found
[05:59] <swatgoss> !info sharpmusique
[05:59] <ubotu> Package sharpmusique does not exist in dapper
[05:59] <kyle_> farous what?
[05:59] <farous> ok i have it then from a non official repos
[05:59] <kyle_> i know it's a deb package
[06:00] <kyle_> how did u install it using dpkg?
[06:00] <Danish> dang the vmware installing is takin' it sweet time
[06:00] <toliman> danish: gentoo recompiles source files for installing apps. the time taken to install is exponentially longer for any app.
[06:00] <poningru> dpkg -i
[06:00] <poningru> kyle_: ^^
[06:00] <kyle_> ok so i do 'dpkg -i lalala.deb'  ??
[06:01] <toliman> however, the benefit is that all the code is secure, optimised for the system, and is cleaner in some ways. however, you probably wont notice the difference unless you are watching a clock
[06:01] <h3sp4wn> using the ~x86 package mask gentoo can be pretty difficult keep working properly and the stable package mask is probably older apps than dapepr
[06:01] <h3sp4wn> *dapper
[06:01] <farous> kyle_: i did have it a while ago did not like it so i just removed it. normally i look for a bin package before i look for the deb one for testing
[06:01] <toliman> i would disavow ppl using ~x86 on gentoo. too much breaks
[06:01] <toliman> package masking is fine
[06:01] <Danish> toliman: i am a beginner rigth now but thankx for the tips
[06:01] <kyle_> farous which alternatives are there?
[06:02] <toliman> compared to debian, masking unstable packages is much much better than waiting 6 months for an app to be comsidered 'acceptably stable'
[06:02] <farous> kyle_: give me the site for i said it was a while ago and i hated it. every music i searched for was for a fee nothing free at all
[06:02] <Shan_> boot sector problems.. windows gives a stop error... problrem  with grub?
[06:02] <farous> kyle_: now i use itunes on wine
[06:02] <kyle_> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[06:02] <kyle_> good one
[06:03] <kyle_> did u install quicktime with it?
[06:03] <Shan_> anyone
[06:03] <toliman> if grub has badly installed to the MBR, you can do 2 things
[06:03] <Shan_> ?
[06:03] <farous> kyle_: yes i have it here
[06:03] <farous> an older ver though for only used it to access stanford publick lect
[06:03] <Shan_> toliman, i dont know if its grub that is the problem.. it worked well before.. the problem started yesterday
[06:04] <toliman> 1, fix the MBR using a windows boot disk in recovery console mode and typing fixmbr, 2 install grub manually using a linux giude to help out
[06:04] <Shan_> can I remove grub and install lilo?
[06:04] <Shan_> i prefer the gui
[06:04] <swatgoss> toliman or sometimes ... just booting on XP installation CD works :p
[06:05] <swatgoss> toliman for NTLDR it works in most case
[06:05] <kyle_> farous here it is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:05] <Shan_> can I?
[06:06] <swatgoss> try the XP cd boot ?, its free :p
[06:06] <Shan_> lol i lost the cd
[06:06] <swatgoss> only takes about 5 mins
[06:06] <Shan_> :/
[06:06] <swatgoss> lost and no images to burn ?
[06:06] <farous> kyle_: i think i went for the tar.gz
[06:06] <Shan_> thats right
[06:06] <Shan_> i figured once i had kubutnu.. why'd I need windblows?
[06:06] <swatgoss> ... try to "get" one :p
[06:06] <Shan_> hehehe
[06:06] <farous> kyle_: unpack it in a local dir. press the prog to run it then if you like it you might install it later
[06:07] <Snowmadic> feh.  baclk.  my appologies to anyone who replied, I missed it.
[06:07] <Shan_> too big a d/l
[06:07] <Shan_> ?
[06:07] <Shan_> wouldnt reinstalling grub or lilo work too?
[06:07] <swatgoss> Shan_ i killed 4 HDD with linux install ...
[06:07] <swatgoss> oh
[06:07] <swatgoss> yeah it will work :p
[06:07] <Shan_> rofl
[06:07] <Danish> toliman how do i make the windwos xp default boot option instead kubuntu
[06:07] <Snowmadic> how do you kill a hdd installing an OS?
[06:07] <Shan_> yeah how?
[06:07] <toliman> danish: edit the /boot/grub/grub.conf
[06:08] <Snowmadic> I've had some completely fubar installs, but have always been able to wipe the drive and recover.
[06:08] <kyle_> farous i got wine but didnt' even think about itunes in linux what was it that you didn't like in sharpmusique as opposed to itunes?
[06:08] <swatgoss> power shutdown during MBR writing ?
[06:08] <Shan_> i killed mine when i dropped it from the 3rd floor balcony
[06:08] <toliman> change the default option in the config
[06:08] <swatgoss> killed ... softwarely killed :p
[06:08] <Snowmadic> swatgoss that should still be recoverable.
[06:08] <swatgoss> i recovered them all :p
[06:08] <Danish> toliman thx
[06:08] <toliman> sometimes grub installs to the partition instead of the MBR. can happen.
[06:08] <osiris> !restricted formats > osiris
[06:09] <toliman> screws up bootable paritions
[06:09] <Shan_> so.... coming back ...lol
[06:09] <Snowmadic> that's what's annoying me atm.  I've done that and gotten back form it, but getting this stupid file off this floppy for work is DRIVING ME MAD
[06:09] <Shan_> how do I overwrite grub with lilo?
[06:09] <swatgoss> uninstall and reinstall ?
[06:09] <swatgoss> or just reinstall ...
[06:09] <Shan_> oh
[06:09] <Shan_> apt-get should work?
[06:09] <toliman> Shan, remove grub files. install lilo files, add lilo to MBR of hdd
[06:09] <swatgoss> reinstall should rewrite everything
[06:10] <swatgoss> u can boot without grub ???
[06:10] <Danish> ok i installed the vmware server what do i do now to boot kubuntu
[06:10] <Shan_> toliman, is there a lin somewhere that explains how?>
[06:10] <Shan_> <--- nooob
[06:10] <toliman> if youre very lucky, lilo will actually boot a 2.6 kernel with initrd ... very very lucky
[06:10] <toliman> Shan_:  man lilo
[06:10] <Shan_> No manual entry for lilo
[06:10] <Danish> nvm
[06:11] <swatgoss> source.lst time :p
[06:11] <Shan_> hehe
[06:11] <Snowmadic> ok, getting the same error now when I use fdformat on a disk and try to mount that.
[06:11] <Snowmadic> suggestions folks?
[06:11] <toliman> Shan_:  be aware, pre-packaged kernels need initrd images to load modules beofre the kernel starts, etc. lilo needs to be configured properly is all
[06:11] <Snowmadic> has my fdd died?
[06:11] <Snowmadic> or am I just missing something stupid? :P
[06:11] <Shan_> toliman, well.. thats why i need a how to on this
[06:11] <Shan_> to avoid screw ups
[06:11] <stray77> snowmadic, is your floppy drive 10yrs old like mine is?
[06:12] <Snowmadic> stray77: nope. 1.5
[06:12] <Shan_> hmm.. apt-get goes for the cd
[06:12] <Crell42> Hey folks.  Is it possible to do a command line install from a Kubuntu Dapper CD?
[06:12] <toliman> Shan_ better the devil you know. you can set grub to display different screens tho
[06:12] <Crell42> The graphical installer keeps locking up for me, so I want to try the command line version.
[06:13] <swatgoss> Crell42 from live cd system ?
[06:13] <Crell42> swatgoss: Yes.
[06:13] <Shan_> hows that
[06:13] <swatgoss> Crell42 i don't think u can install anything from cd to live session ... i can be wrong
[06:13] <swatgoss> and moreover on HDD
[06:13] <Shan_> how do i normally fix a bad boot sector
[06:14] <Shan_> w/o the cd
[06:14] <Shan_> lol
[06:14] <swatgoss> Acronis disk directorsuite ?
[06:14] <Crell42> I tried installing the Ubuntu server and then apt-getting kubuntu-desktop, but I think the kernel for that doesn't have the madwifi driver.
[06:14] <swatgoss> bootable CD of Acronis manager :p
[06:14] <Crell42> swatgoss: Um, as of Dapper the live cd and install cd are merged.
[06:14] <swatgoss> Crell42 i know but u can't install a prog on a live session i think
[06:15] <swatgoss> Crell42 form the cd u booted on
[06:15] <Crell42> swatgoss: Have you used Dapper yet?
[06:15] <swatgoss> yeah
[06:15] <Crell42> The live cd is the install cd.
[06:15] <Crell42> But it's a GUI installer.
[06:15] <swatgoss> i didnt managed to create fstab on the live session
[06:15] <Crell42> I want to use a CLI installer instead.
[06:16] <swatgoss> use the server CD ?
[06:16] <Snowmadic> ok, mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy should work, yes?
[06:16] <swatgoss> server CD is in command line ?
[06:16] <Crell42> Doesn't have a wifi driver in its kernel.  That's what I did first.
[06:16] <Crell42> Yes.
[06:16] <Shan_> yeah
[06:16] <Snowmadic> *bangs head on desk*
[06:16] <Shan_> whats the error?
[06:16] <Snowmadic> "You must specify the filesystem type"
[06:16] <Shan_> format it then
[06:17] <Shan_> try again
[06:17] <swatgoss> u can enter a parameter before booting the live session, F6 or F7 as i remember
[06:17] <swatgoss> but i don't know the parameter ...
[06:17] <toliman> installing lilo onto ubuntu -- http://bin-false.org/?p=17
[06:17] <Snowmadic> Shan_: did
[06:17] <Snowmadic> same
[06:18] <Shan_> did it format it? thern thertes nothing wrong with the drive
[06:18] <Snowmadic> or rather, got another floppy, formatted that (fdformat) and tried that.
[06:18] <Snowmadic> the file is fine, the other disc formatted, and the 2nd disk reads fine in my other linux box.
[06:18] <Snowmadic> so the drive at least _creates_ usable floppies
[06:18] <Shan_> press tab after tryping "fd" sometimes it assins dif nmukmbers
[06:18] <Shan_> numbers
[06:18] <Snowmadic> fd0 works to format, though
[06:19] <Shan_> hmm
[06:19] <Snowmadic> and the formatted disks mount fine using the same fstab line on my other box :P
[06:19] <Snowmadic> see my confusion? :|
[06:19] <Shan_> wtf
[06:19] <toliman> Crell42: i paritioned using disk director myself, and used text install to install ubuntu. no real issues.
[06:20] <Shan_> Snowmadic, do a google lol
[06:20] <Snowmadic> Shan_: thanks :P  been there, tried that.  this is kinda anoying me :P
[06:20] <toliman> if you mount a floppy, sometimes you need to explicitly use FAT
[06:20] <Snowmadic> thinking about sending the floppy back and insisting that they use usb keys ;)
[06:20] <toliman> its so arcane
[06:21] <Snowmadic> toliman: a la mount -t FAT /dev/fd0 /mount/floppy ?
[06:21] <toliman> "email me a boot disc"
[06:21] <Crell42> swatgoss: It doesn't seem to have an option from F6 to do a CLI install.
[06:21] <toliman> ye
[06:21] <toliman> you can make a usb key bootable
[06:21] <toliman> :P
[06:21] <swatgoss> Crell42 hummm
[06:21] <Snowmadic> I know..
[06:21] <Snowmadic> this is just for file transfer.
[06:21] <Snowmadic> the machine it's coming off doesn't have a usb port :(
[06:21] <Snowmadic> it's _OLD_
[06:21] <Snowmadic> legacy system.
[06:22] <cozomo> hay guys, how do I install an audio device? I get this when I try to play .avi's via MPlayer: [AO OSS]  audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[06:22] <toliman> cozomo: dont use oss. use alsa or esd
[06:22] <swatgoss> Crell42 can't u install from a server CD and install a kernel with wifi ?
[06:22] <cozomo> toliman: how do I reconfigure?
[06:22] <toliman> you need an audio output that mixes
[06:22] <Crell42> I'd have to get a kernel with wifi that I can install.
[06:23] <toliman> mplayer -ao=alsa
[06:23] <toliman> edit ~/.mplayer/config
[06:23] <toliman> or just edit kmplayer / gmplayer
[06:23] <unix_infidel> hey guys for some reason my sleep button in KUbuntu isnt working with my thinkpad whereas in breezy it worked fine.
[06:23] <Shan_> wtf i cannot remove grub using Synaptic.. it asks for the CD?
[06:24] <unix_infidel> regular acpi stuff still works like cpufreq and screen off.
[06:24] <keleus> ok, amarok still says libvisual is not installed or no plugins installed, even though i have tried libvisual-0.2.0 and libvisual 0.2.0-plugins from the repo. Failing still, i removed those and built/installed from source 0.4.0
[06:24] <keleus> STILL wont work
[06:24] <cozomo> thanks toliman
[06:24] <swatgoss> Shan_ how did u managed to boot on a system without MBR/grub ?
[06:24] <toliman> it might be called Advanced Linux Sound Arch
[06:24] <toliman> which is ALSA
[06:24] <toliman> sic
[06:25] <Shan_> swatgoss, its there.. but it wont boot in windows... it gives a stop error and reboots (which i ma assumin is a bad boot sector problem) so i want to resolve that
[06:25] <Snowmadic> *ponder*
[06:25] <Snowmadic> do I dare?  serial -> usb dongle -> usb drive? :P
[06:25] <keleus> WTF
[06:25] <toliman> amarok. eevil, so very eevil
[06:25] <Snowmadic> can't work any less than this damned drive is.
[06:25] <keleus> why is amarok looking in /usr/lib/amarok/amarok_libvisual shouldn't it be looking in /usr/lib/libvisual?
[06:25] <keleus> arg! symlink time
[06:26] <toliman> legacy file transfer ... hmm. network, serial, parallel cables.
[06:26] <swatgoss> Shan_ do u modofied menu.lst or any file of this kind ?
[06:26] <toliman> network preferably
[06:26] <Shan_> not that i recollet swatgoss
[06:26] <swatgoss> recollet ? typo or real word :p ?
[06:26] <toliman> perhaps its french
[06:27] <swatgoss> recoller ?
[06:27] <swatgoss> ou rigoler ?
[06:27] <toliman> silent l's, r's, c's
[06:27] <swatgoss> chuis largu la :/
[06:28] <Shan_> recollect
[06:28] <Shan_> lol
[06:28] <toliman> some vague moaning of vowels, im sure it will be comprehended
[06:28] <Shan_> its recollect ok!
[06:28] <Shan_> lol
[06:28] <swatgoss> ... if u say so :p
[06:28] <Shan_> hehe
[06:28] <toliman> oui
[06:28] <Shan_> i insist!
[06:28] <swatgoss> i think my brain (ou ce qu'il en reste) need some sleep ...
[06:28] <h3sp4wn> keleus: If you were building the new amarok kubuntu.org has packages of it already
[06:29] <Ademan> does wine have a support channel?
[06:29] <kyle_> has anyone installed itunes using wine???
[06:29] <swatgoss> either with recollect i don't understand :/
[06:29] <swatgoss> 6:30am ... time to go back IRL
[06:29] <Shan_> lol
[06:29] <h3sp4wn> Ademan: #winehq (I think its a development channel though)
[06:30] <Shan_> you asked me if I modified a file swatgoss
[06:30] <swatgoss> and u didn't ?
[06:30] <Shan_> so i said not that I recollect(remmeber)
[06:30] <Shan_> nope
[06:30] <swatgoss> ok
[06:30] <Ademan> h3sp4wn: thanks i guess if nothing else they might be able to direct me to a support channel
[06:30] <swatgoss> les voiles d'ombres s'claircissent !
[06:30] <swatgoss> +
[06:31] <Shan_> :/
[06:31] <Kiongku> darn.. ppl its annoying.. kpersonalizer just keeps opening at new session..
[06:31] <h3sp4wn> Ademan: They will help you but expect you to have read the documentation
[06:31] <Kiongku> and i cant find the config files or kdestart itself -_-
[06:31] <swatgoss> if u need me nudge me :p
[06:32] <Shan_> heh
[06:32] <Shan_> k
[06:32] <Shan_> anyways i'm off to work
[06:32] <Shan_> lata
[06:32] <Ademan> h3sp4wn: damn, i'm illiterate :-p
[06:33] <Ademan> and i do have a nasty tendancy to ask first before looking things up
[06:33] <Ademan> :-(
[06:33] <h3sp4wn> Ademan: Expect to be flamed then
[06:33] <Hawkwind> LOL
[06:34] <Hawkwind> If you refuse to help yourself and read a bit when it comes to linux, it makes it very difficult to get help most of the time
[06:34] <Healot> hey kubuntuans
[06:35] <keleus> Help! /usr/lib/amarok/amarok_libvisual is missing
[06:37] <keleus> Anyone have a good replacement for Adept? thing is useless...
[06:37] <Hawkwind> keleus: apt-get from the command line
[06:37] <h3sp4wn> keleus: aptitude
[06:37] <keleus> Hawkwind, something that isnt impossible to find things in
[06:37] <keleus> h3sp4wn, same response as too Hawkwind
[06:37] <Hawkwind> keleus: apt-get from CLI
[06:37] <Hawkwind> keleus: Learn to use what works
[06:38] <h3sp4wn> sudo aptitude (gui - works better than anything else)
[06:38] <Hawkwind> keleus: Might try reading the docs on it too.  It has tons of commands to do anything you want
[06:38] <Hawkwind> LOL @ gui works better than anything
[06:38] <keleus> h3sp4wn, the searching in aptitude doesn't work well
[06:38] <Hawkwind> keleus: apt-cache search works beautifully
[06:38] <h3sp4wn> aptitude with its gui and cli modes is superior to apt-get
[06:39] <h3sp4wn>  /apt-cache
[06:39] <keleus> Hawkwind, tell me how to search for packeges AND tell me their status... apt-cache search only gives me a mess of stuff that may or may not be already present
[06:39] <h3sp4wn> keleus: aptitude search appname~i
[06:39] <Hawkwind> I hate GUI package managers.  They never seem to do everything that a package manager from the command line can do.  That's in every distro I've ever tried
[06:39] <Hawkwind> keleus: apt-cache policy, apt-cache madison  Also, try reading the docs
[06:40] <keleus> i would be back in gentoo if the damn thing would come with madwifi (ubuntu does, dont understand why its not part of the default gentoo kernel)
[06:40] <h3sp4wn> building madwifi is not difficult
[06:40] <keleus> if i need to study pages of docs to show me what packeged match a pattern, and whether they are installed or not, then im not using that tool
[06:40] <keleus> h3sp4wn, it is when you are networkless
[06:41] <kyle_> helooooooo
[06:41] <kyle_> i can't run itunes in wine anybody have ideas?
[06:41] <h3sp4wn> keleus: so download the source first onto a usb keychain
[06:42] <FearMoth> I'm trying to install Kubuntu Dapper on my iMac g3, and when I boot from the cd with "live" or "liveppc" it runs through loading up with the kubuntu logo, and then after a while it stops with "restarting system logger       [fail] " or something along those lines and freezes.. anyone know why it does this?
[06:42] <Hawkwind> keleus: If you refuse to read when it comes to Linux, chances are you won't get help from majority of the IRC users.  You gotta help yourself before others will help you
[06:43] <cozomo> sup pedro_
[06:43] <keleus> Hawkwind, im only complaining because something so necessary is not straightforward
[06:43] <h3sp4wn> keleus: If you just learn the aptitude search regexps (takes maybe 5/10 mins) then that is all you need
[06:44] <Hawkwind> keleus: Most things in Linux aren't.  Learn to read docs and teach yourself before complaining
[06:44] <keleus> Hawkwind, i printed (and read) the freebsd 6.1 handbook. im not adverse to docs.
[06:44] <keleus> h3sp4wn, any resources for learnign regexp? those make my brain hurt.
[06:45] <Healot> like \d{1,12}\.\d{2}?
[06:45] <h3sp4wn> keleus: http://people.debian.org/~dburrows/aptitude-doc/en/ch02s03.html (that is all you need for basic searching)
[06:47] <Healot> panic manic, split
[06:48] <unix_infidel> hey guys i'm having trouble getting Fn+F4 buttons to work on my thinkpad (which enables standby mode) it worked fine on breezy but ever since this upgrade i've been having this one problem.
[06:51] <[Relic] > where's the grub info stored?
[06:52] <jontec> how can I unmount the floppy from inside Konsole?
[06:52] <DFM> fearmoth, do you have the version for a mac?
[06:52] <Healot> .. /boot/grub/menu.lst << the grub menu
[06:56] <rOOb> hello all im wondering if someone could help me figure out a: how to hook my camcorder up b: captureing video from the camcorder when i plug my camcorder in i dmesg says this : http://pastebin.ulteo.us/58
[06:58] <rOOb> i tried to use win xp in a vm with vmware....and it wokred but the video came out very choppy and low quality,,,,,so im hoping i can be able to import videos in linux
[06:58] <unix_infidel> anyone for my acpi question?
[07:07] <ballchalk> hello
[07:12] <Kiongku> yo.. silent
[07:12] <Jucato>  O_o
[07:12] <rouge8> O.O
[07:12] <Jucato>  ^_^
[07:12] <Kiongku> lol?
[07:12] <Kiongku> hi Jucato
[07:12] <Jucato> hehehe! silent because... um... nothing to talk about? ehehe
[07:12] <Jucato> hi Kiongku! how's prozilla doing?
[07:13] <Kiongku> damn kpersonalizer gaves me headaches since morning.. and i went the pc to find startkde
[07:13] <Kiongku> Jucato: fine very good
[07:13] <Kiongku> *went all ove the pc
[07:13] <Jucato> you got hit by the kpersonalizer KDE 3.5.4 bug eh?
[07:13] <Kiongku> ya hit very hard
[07:13] <Kiongku> did u get it?
[07:14] <Jucato> i was lucky enough to have dodged it :-D
[07:14] <Kiongku> how?
[07:14] <Jucato> i don't know. KPersonalizer was never installed during the upgrade
[07:14] <Kiongku> ah lol..
[07:14] <Kiongku> i dutn give a damn to kpersonalizer.. it does nothign great anyway that cant be solved in kcontrol
[07:15] <Jucato> I did get hit by a more annoying bug... you're lucky it's easy to fix that KPersonalizer thingy
[07:15] <Kiongku> lol what bug?
[07:15] <Jucato> the media:/ HAL bug
[07:15] <Kiongku> send me a link i see what it talks about
[07:15] <Jucato> I don't know if it was reported already
[07:16] <Jucato> but it was confirmed by one of the Kubuntu devs here
[07:16] <Jucato> (I won't mention the name so as not to bother him...)
[07:16] <Jucato> btw, KPersonalizer is great when you want to tone down the eye-candy stuff, and you don't want to go all around KControl to set them
[07:17] <Jucato> specially if you don't know which ones to change
[07:17] <ibert> hi! Anybody knows a simple CAD Application in the ubuntu universe?
[07:17] <rouge8> Jucato: what's the HAL bug?
[07:17] <Kiongku> Jucato: there is kpersonalizer command :P.. i dutn want it to start up each time lol
[07:17] <Jucato> partitions that are not mounted during startup do not appear in media:/
[07:18] <Kiongku> Jucato: then what does HAL means o0
[07:18] <Jucato> they still don't appear even if you mount them, as long as they were not mounted during startup
[07:18] <rouge8> I wonder if that has anything to do with my poor SD card reader not working
[07:18] <rouge8> it used to work with breezy and fedora core 4, but that was also with a different mobo
[07:18] <Kiongku> Jucato: ahh freaking prob
[07:18] <Jucato> rouge8: I think that's also affected. But I'm not absolutely sure
[07:19] <Jucato> the partitions are still accessible through /media/<mount_point> though
[07:19] <Jucato> they just don't appear in the media:/ kio slave
[07:19] <rouge8> now if only I could find an SD card to see if that's it >.<
[07:19] <Kiongku> Jucato: btw.. if kde works well with the new startkde.. can i remove the old one?
[07:20] <Jucato> Kiongku: probably. But I'd keep it around for backup. what's a few KB anyway :-D
[07:20] <Kiongku> rouge8: did u do a thorough search on the net about ur sd card with the current kubuntu?
[07:20] <Kiongku> Jucato: hehe.. how much mem u have?
[07:20] <rouge8> unfortunately no, because I have no idea what model the reader is or anything :(
[07:21] <Kiongku> rouge8: connected by usb?
[07:21] <Jucato> btw, Kiongku, the original intent of KPersonalizer was for it to startup when you first log into KDE. Kubuntu devs decided to remove it
[07:21] <rOOb> who has a firewire card that works 100% in linux...im looking to buy one off new egga nd wanna make sure i get one that WILL work
[07:21] <rouge8> internally
[07:21] <rouge8> plugs into JUSB2 on the motherboard
[07:21] <Jucato> my card reader usually does a "trial and error" thing
[07:21] <Jucato> sometimes it reads, sometimes it doesn't
[07:21] <Kiongku> Jucato: I agree with the devs.. it does not have lots of functions that requires it to start each time
[07:22] <Kiongku> JUSB2?
[07:22] <Kiongku> is it USB?
[07:22] <rouge8> aye
[07:22] <rouge8> it's one of the internal connectors
[07:22] <Jucato> Kiongku: it was not supposed to start each time. I said "first time you log into KDE". notice the "first time"?
[07:22] <Kiongku> did u try lsusb in terminal?
[07:22] <rouge8> yup, not there :(
[07:22] <Kiongku> Jucato: well.. mine decided he was a boss and needed to start each time... now i kicked him out of the window
[07:23] <Kiongku> rouge8: hmm.. darn i never used a SD card reader..
[07:23] <Jucato> ehehe.. that's why it's a bug. It's behaving in a way that it shouldn't.
[07:23] <dein_> is anyone having trouble upgrading from ktorrent 2.0rc1 to 2.0
[07:23] <dein_> ?
[07:23] <Kiongku> Jucato: anyway.. as u said.. a few KBs.. is not the end of the world.. prolly i'll keep it around esp. with the many modifications i'm doing
[07:23] <Kiongku> kubuntu might go haywire anytime
[07:23] <rouge8> out of curiosity, are the nForce drivers from nVidia's website necessary for anything?
[07:24] <Kiongku> rouge8: what card u have?
[07:24] <Jucato> dein_: there's no KTorrent 2.0 in the repositories. the current version available in the repositories is 1.2
[07:24] <rouge8> not the graphics card, the motherboard chipset
[07:24] <ballchalk> hello
[07:24] <ballchalk> how do i start a process?
[07:24] <Kiongku> Jucato: hey.. u know the code to show all the mem in konsole?
[07:24] <dein_> this is from the website, a downloaded .deb file
[07:24] <ballchalk> restart*
[07:24] <Kiongku> rouge8: ah lol
[07:24] <dein_> dpkg: error processing ktorrent-2.0-i386.deb (--install):
[07:24] <dein_>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop', which is also in package kdelibs-data
[07:24] <dein_> thats the error
[07:25] <Jucato> dein_: you'd probably want to remove the older KTorrent first
[07:25] <Jucato> Kiongku: by mem, do you mean RAM usage?
[07:25] <Kiongku> dein_: may be uninstall and then install again?
[07:25] <dein_> i uninstalled it, got rid of one of the error messages
[07:25] <Kiongku> Jucato: i mean everything from ram to hdb sda
[07:25] <Kiongku> etc..
[07:25] <dein_> that one still remains though
[07:25] <Kiongku> dein_: hmm
[07:26] <Jucato> Kiongku: hmm...
[07:26] <Kiongku> XD
[07:26] <dein_> its also been purged
[07:26] <Kiongku> dein_ reset all dependencies?
[07:26] <Kiongku> i forgot the code.. i need to look for again
[07:27] <Jucato> Kiongku: for RAM usage, you can look at KInfoCenter, under the Memory options
[07:27] <dein_> did a sudo apt-get check already
[07:27] <Jucato> for a command line version, you could probably use "free"
[07:27] <Kiongku> Jucato: i mean in konsole.. theres a command u can write.. i cant remember it thought
[07:27] <Jucato> free
[07:27] <Kiongku> dein_: its not the command.. wait i thinking
[07:28] <Kiongku> darn i just used the code yesterday i think.. so short memory
[07:29] <Jucato> Kiongku: code for what?
[07:29] <Jucato> (or do you actually mean "command"?)
[07:30] <Kiongku> Jucato: reset the dependencies.. it was dpkg depmod -a or something
[07:30] <Kiongku> or i think it is..
[07:30] <Jucato> "sudo dpkg --configure -a" ??
[07:30] <dein_> kk
[07:30] <Kiongku> yeah may be.
[07:31] <Kiongku> dein_ try
[07:31] <Jucato> brb, gotta check my laundry...
[07:31] <Kiongku> lol ok
[07:31] <dein_> nope
[07:31] <D4rkly> anyone know how i can enable the 2 side buttons on my mouse ?
[07:31] <acad> what permissions should the cd writer have to use it as a user?
[07:32] <Kiongku> dein_: by nope what u mean
[07:32] <dein_> didn't work
[07:32] <unix_infidel> anyone with some insight on my acpi question, i cant seem to get fn+f4 to work on my thinkpad with dapper whereas it worked fine in breezy.
[07:32] <Kiongku> dein_: did the command work?
[07:32] <unix_infidel> this is a clean install and acpid acpi and tpb re installed.
[07:32] <dein_> did dpkg --configure -a and then tried install
[07:33] <Kiongku> hmm
[07:33] <dein_> the command worked but didn't affect the problem
[07:33] <Kiongku> tell me what ur installing again
[07:33] <dein_> ktorrent 2.0 final
[07:33] <dein_> had rc1 on there previously
[07:34] <Kiongku> its not in the repositories?
[07:34] <Jucato> nope
[07:34] <Jucato> KTorrent 1.2 is the one in the repositories
[07:34] <Kiongku> Doh.. trying to install somethign not in rep... >> trouble seeking..
[07:34] <Jucato> dein_: I'm presuming you're trying to install the .deb built specifically for Kubuntu?
[07:34] <Kiongku> well i do that myself XD..
[07:35] <dein_> yes
[07:35] <Jucato> hmm...
[07:35] <dein_> it keeps referring to /usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop
[07:35] <unix_infidel> argh, anyone??
[07:35] <Jucato> MIME type problem...???
[07:35] <danish> toliman hy
[07:35] <Kiongku> lol Jucato got a heart attack
[07:35] <dein_> says that it cant overwrite it
[07:35] <danish> i selected the executable thing on firefox it still doesn't work
[07:36] <Jucato> dein_: of course you are installing with "sudo dpkg -i <package_name>" right?
[07:36] <dein_> perhaps because i have konqueror open???
[07:36] <dein_> yes
[07:37] <Kiongku> hey dein_:http://ktorrent.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4184&sid=03ecc462ee68374bf329c573c04dfad2 check this man.. may be it'll be of use
[07:37] <Jucato> hm... you could try if closing Konqueror does solve it
[07:38] <dein_> im going to try restarting my x-session brb
[07:38] <Kiongku> dein_: lol ..as u want
[07:39] <dein> didn't work
[07:39] <dein> brb
[07:39] <Jucato> dein:
[07:39] <dein> going to ktorrent forum
[07:39] <Jucato> try the link Kiongku gave
[07:40] <dein> whats that link again :)?
[07:40] <Jucato> http://ktorrent.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4184&sid=03ecc462ee68374bf329c573c04dfad2
[07:40] <Jucato> but it has some typos
[07:40] <Kiongku> yah
[07:40] <Kiongku> overwrite not overwritte
[07:41] <Jucato> and it's actually "--force-overwrite"
[07:41] <Kiongku> dein: may be u should thiink trying remove x-torrent.desktop as instructed in the forum
[07:41] <dein> i hadn't checked the forum
[07:42] <dein> i did the force overwrite
[07:42] <dein>  thanks ^^
[07:42] <dein> next time ill rtfm
[07:42] <Jucato> or, RTF (read the forums)
[07:43] <dein> lol
[07:43] <Kiongku> dein: lol
[07:43] <Kiongku> i solved most ppl problem by simply googling it
[07:43] <Kiongku> XDD
[07:43] <Kiongku> its amazing how little ppl think to google 1st before asking
[07:43] <dein> psshhh googling isn't for me
[07:43] <Kiongku> haha
[07:43] <phoenix198> Could anyone help me install ndiswrapper?  I'm running into a couple of issues on the install.  (I have checked the wiki  and didn't see what I needed).
[07:43] <dein> its always better to bother people who are busy
[07:43] <Jucato> lol
[07:44] <Kiongku> dein: lol.. i'll ignore u then :p
[07:44] <Jucato> Google doesn't always bring up the results you want
[07:44] <dein> nooo ; ;
[07:44] <Jucato> I've had experiences of finding the results I need in the 3rd or 4th pages
[07:44] <Kiongku> Jucato: i found the command type df -k in konsole
[07:44] <Kiongku> Jucato: same here.. buts its woth it
[07:44] <Jucato> Kiongku: well, df -h might be better (-h = human-readable)
[07:45] <Kiongku> for e.g Dein's problem was on the 4th page in google
[07:45] <Kiongku> Jucato: sorry i typoed.. yeah df -h
[07:45] <Jucato> df = checking disk space, free = memory usage, top = processes/CPU/memory usage
[07:45] <phoenix198> Anyone know anything about ndiswrapper?
[07:45] <dein> yes
[07:45] <rOOb> phoenix198, whats the prob
[07:46] <maltaethiron> hey, who wants to tell maltaethiron how to rip an ISO from a DVD movie
[07:46] <phoenix198> r00b:  I am getting errors when trying to install (following the wiki's directions)
[07:46] <dein> enable all ubuntu repositories and get ndisgtk
[07:46] <Kiongku> XD
[07:46] <rOOb> phoenix198, have u installed build-essentials?
[07:46] <h3sp4wn> phoenix198: Use the absolute latest version of ndiswrapper and the recommended driver (see the ndiswrapper wiki)
[07:46] <Jucato> "all" repositories?!?!
[07:46] <Kiongku> Jucato: whats ur df -h :P just curious
[07:46] <dein> yes
[07:46] <maltaethiron> kiongku: bro, do you ever sleep? lol
[07:46] <Kiongku> maltaethiron: yeah.. 6 hrs
[07:47] <Jucato> for which /dev/ ??
[07:47] <phoenix198> h3sp4wn:  Can't get it installed, not to that point yet.
[07:47] <maltaethiron> guys, how do i rip an iso from a dvd movie?
[07:47] <Kiongku> maltaethiron: thought the day before it was only 1 hr.. head aches afterwards
[07:47] <rOOb> phoenix198, im betting u need build-essentials
[07:47] <dein> k3b?
[07:47] <maltaethiron> nice kiongku
[07:47] <phoenix198> r00b:  Sorry, was attempting to check -
[07:47] <Kiongku> maltaethiron: lol... need more sleep..zzzz
[07:48] <Jucato> lol
[07:48] <rOOb> maltaethiron, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/where/u/want/the.iso
[07:48] <phoenix198> r00b:  What are build-essentials for it?
[07:48] <maltaethiron> kiongku: its almost 2 in the morning for me right now..im leaving for vacation in 3 hours
[07:48] <Kiongku> Jucato: ur main drives :D
[07:48] <Kiongku> maltaethiron: XD nice.. here its 9:48 am
[07:48] <maltaethiron> kiongku: so i wont be here for a week or so...so dont worry about me or anything =P
[07:48] <rOOb> phoenix198, installed make and other stuff needed to compile things
[07:48] <h3sp4wn> maltaethiro: Its 7am here (maybe I should get a little sleep)
[07:48] <Jucato> Kiongku: I have 2 HDDs, with 7 partitions in total (actually, 8, but an extended partition doesn't show up)
[07:49] <rOOb> *installs
[07:49] <maltaethiron> haha h3sp4wn
[07:49] <Kiongku> maltaethiron: i wunt.. i'll just save up a list of bugs for asking u :P
[07:49] <maltaethiron> please do kiongku, lol
[07:49] <WarOfAttrition> so 15k rpm hard drives are worth it?
[07:49] <phoenix198> r00b:  make is installed - I think everything else is as well - once I run "make" it goes through the install for a while and then comes back with errors.
[07:49] <Kiongku> Jucato: OH O_o.. whats the size of the 2 hdds?
[07:49] <Kiongku> dein: how is the ktorrent2.0beta working?
[07:49] <Jucato> hda is 20GB (old one), hdb is 80GB (slightly newer)
[07:50] <dein> its out of beta
[07:50] <D4rkly> where can i find this /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file ?
[07:50] <Kiongku> Jucato: lol.. why put the old 20gb as master XD?
[07:50] <rOOb> phoenix198, try to install build-essentials
[07:50] <dein> its 2.0 final
[07:50] <Jucato> yeah. it's an official release
[07:50] <Kiongku> dein: ah sorry.. well is it any good?
[07:50] <Jucato> Kiongku: coz it has windows xp...
[07:50] <dein> but rc1 served me well too
[07:50] <dein> yes
[07:50] <phoenix198> r00b:  running through the process once more (3rd time, ran make distclean first).  I'll post to where ever you would prefer my errors to be posted once I get them.
[07:50] <Kiongku> i wonder why the ubuntu repos are not updated yet with the final
[07:50] <dein> upnp works now
[07:51] <dein> and it has basic dht support
[07:51] <Jucato> Kiongku: 2.0 didn't make it to Feature Freeze
[07:51] <Kiongku> Jucato: oh i see. same prob here my master hdd is taken up by win
[07:51] <Kiongku> Jucato: Feature Freeze?
[07:51] <Kiongku> Jucato: u mean its release is to recent?
[07:51] <dein> ya
[07:51] <Jucato> it's a time in the development of a distro where no more new versions/releases of apps are accepted
[07:52] <Jucato> so when Dapper hit Feature Freeze, the latest KTorrent version available was 1.2
[07:52] <dein> there should be an unstable .deb repository though
[07:52] <Jucato> hehehe! we're not Debian :-D
[07:52] <phoenix198> r00b:  Almost 100% certain all build prerequisites are installed.  Where should I post my errors?
[07:52] <dein> so you can download new packages like new xine-lib
[07:52] <rOOb> phoenix198, pastebin
[07:52] <Jucato> before, there were the Backports. but they said it has been non-functional for quite some time
[07:53] <dein> well i likes my bleeding edge
[07:53] <Jucato> dein: ehehe! no one's stopping you. just don't go blaming Kubuntu/Canonical if something goes wrong :-D
[07:54] <h3sp4wn> phoenix198: What card are you using ?
[07:54] <dein> lol i wont
[07:54] <phoenix198> r00b: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20948
[07:54] <Jucato> basically, almost anything in the universe repositories fall out of the "official" support of Canonical/Ubuntu
[07:54] <phoenix198> h3sp4wn: bcm4306 I believe.  (laptop, builtin to the comp - eMachines M6410)
[07:54] <maltaethiron> r00b: oh.my.god
[07:55] <Kiongku> Well my term to try out the new ktorrent
[07:55] <Kiongku> *turn
[07:55] <Jucato> ehehe
[07:55] <Jucato> good luck!
[07:55] <maltaethiron> r00b:i typed what you had put, and nothing happened
[07:55] <D4rkly> :) [07:55] <D4rkly> lots of good tips
[07:55] <Kiongku> I'll be doing through source compile hehe :p
[07:55] <maltaethiron> so THEN r00b, i put in just the first half, and almost woke my entire house with beeps
[07:55] <phoenix198> h3sp4wn:  BCM4306, Broadcom Corp 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller
[07:55] <Jucato> Kiongku: @_@... messy messy...
[07:56] <rOOb> maltaethiron, lol
[07:56] <rOOb> maltaethiron, makde sure u have the 1st device
[07:56] <h3sp4wn> phoenix198: have you tried bcm43xx ?
[07:56] <h3sp4wn> !bcm43xx
[07:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:56] <maltaethiron> r00b: ?
[07:56] <Kiongku> Jucato: thats my life XD..
[07:56] <rOOb> maltaethiron, like yours may be somthing else besides the one i had
[07:56] <maltaethiron> ah
[07:56] <Kiongku> dein: what did u install the normal or rc1?
[07:56] <dein> normal
[07:56] <Jucato> Kiongku:http://ktorrent.org/index.php?page=downloads
[07:56] <Kiongku> ah
[07:57] <phoenix198> h3sp4wn:  event not found - however I have tried the bcm43xx fwcutter...etc..  and got limited results
[07:57] <dein> i upgraded from rc1
[07:57] <Kiongku> yah.. dling source
[07:57] <maltaethiron> !iso
[07:57] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:57] <Jucato> the ones at the top
[07:57] <rOOb> dd if=/dev/yourdevice of=/home/username/folder/the.iso
[07:57] <Kiongku> Jucato: I filled my hdd with devs files.. should be quite ok
[07:57] <h3sp4wn> phoenix198: just use the downloaded http://drinus.net/airport/wl_apsta.o
[07:57] <Jucato> lol
[07:58] <rOOb> maltaethiron, that command will make an exact image....if u are looking to make a dvd-r that will fit on a standard burnable dvd od use somthing else
[07:58] <phoenix198> h3sp4wn:  alright, stupid question (I haven't looked into this for about a week - decided today to try ndiswrapper)  Once downloaded, what do I do with that file?
[07:58] <Kiongku> dein: u mean u did from ktorrent2.0rc1 --> ktorrent2.0 o0?
[07:59] <dein> yep
[07:59] <Kiongku> lol
[07:59] <rOOb> phoenix198, u dl it extract it..cd in in it....type make then sudo make install
[07:59] <h3sp4wn> phoenix198: just copy it to /lib/firmware
[07:59] <Kiongku> starting compile process. wish me luck
[07:59] <dein> ktorrent2.0rc1 didnt give me any trouble
[07:59] <h3sp4wn> phoenix198: then sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[08:00] <Jucato> Kiongku: luck!
[08:00] <maltaethiron> r00b: ok here's the situation: i have eurotrip in my drive.  i have to give it back to my cousin tomorow, and so i want to burn it myself on my mac later on (no dvd burner here)..SO i want to get the iso so i can then send it to my mac...
[08:00] <Kiongku> zzzz..
[08:00] <Kiongku> long process
[08:00] <Jucato> lol
[08:00] <Kiongku> oh one error gmp missing
[08:01] <Jucato> you wanna snooze while compiling? try out Slackware :-D
[08:01] <Kiongku> XD
[08:01] <Kiongku> and here we go.. another dev files to my big list
[08:02] <Kiongku> my hdd is liek 40% dev files and 60% programs
[08:02] <Kiongku> i think o0
[08:02] <maltaethiron> r00b: so what should i do?  any app i should get?
[08:02] <phoenix198> r00b, h3sp4wn:  I have it d/l'ed to a folder (wl) on desktop and directly in the /lib/firmware folder.  In both folders I extracted with "bcm43xx-fwcutter wl_apsta.o" and received no errors.  modprobe bcm43xx shows nothing
[08:02] <Kiongku> no error
[08:03] <rOOb> maltaethiron, k then id use a diff proggie......a exact iso of a dvd9 can be like 8 gigs .....id use somthing else
[08:04] <rOOb> im trying to remeber the name of the app...theres 2 good ones
[08:04] <phoenix198> r00b, h3sp4wn:  If either of you would like to do a remote desktop share, I would gladly provide one of you the IP to connect to - I would really like to get my Wireless working.
[08:04] <rOOb> !dvd
[08:04] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:06] <maltaethiron> alright, well im gonna get some sleep, 12 hour drive comin up tomorow
[08:06] <Kiongku> hehe
[08:06] <maltaethiron> see you in a week kiongku
[08:06] <Kiongku> night
[08:06] <Kiongku> maltaethiron : c ya :P
[08:06] <Kiongku> have fun
[08:06] <Kiongku> and safe trip o0
[08:06] <maltaethiron> thanks
[08:06] <rOOb> maltaethiron, k8copy
[08:06] <rOOb> *k9copy
[08:06] <rOOb> is one of the apps
[08:07] <rOOb> that should make a smaller iso of it
[08:07] <maltaethiron> k9copy is what i want to get that iso then?
[08:07] <maltaethiron> alright thanks a lot man
[08:07] <cozomo> Would anyone know the cause of kubuntu halting suddenly while compiling, or when CPU usage is consistantly high?
[08:07] <cozomo> thats on i386
[08:07] <rOOb> yea that will make a iso from the dvd
[08:07] <rOOb> and np
[08:07] <sizzam> cozomo:  could it be a heat issue
[08:08] <cozomo> I dont think so, I've never had this problem before on windoze
[08:08] <cozomo> if it is, how could I get the fan working
[08:08] <maltaethiron> lol, windoze
[08:09] <cozomo> lol internet
[08:09] <sizzam> cozomo: i had those kinds of problems when i was working the kinks out of my system.  i ended up buying a new heatsync for my processor, one with a copper core
[08:09] <sizzam> havent had any problems since then
[08:09] <unix_infidel> is it possible to change everything in init.d to their default runlevels with dpkg?
[08:12] <newbie263> hi, have just installed kubuntu from the DVD but cant install any other software from the DVD how do i add it to the sources.list file?
[08:13] <StrudelNinja____> could it have to do with me having a 19 day uptime
[08:13] <maltaethiron> alright, im leaving for real now, ill talk to you guys in a week
[08:13] <maltaethiron> later bros
[08:14] <newbie263> hi, have just installed kubuntu from the DVD but cant install any other software from the DVD how do i add it to the sources.list file?
[08:14] <dein> why dont you install off the internet?
[08:15] <Jucato> well, if he/she has the DVD and doesn't have the bandwidth...
[08:15] <newbie263> dein: internet slow, also i had downloaded dvd cause i wanted to pre-install a couple of boxes with a full KDE install
[08:15] <h3sp4wn> newbie263: use apt-cdrom ?
[08:15] <newbie263> dein: wont have an internet connection where i install...
[08:15] <Jucato> isn't it that most installations don't comment out the CD/DVD repos after installation?
[08:16] <newbie263> h3sp4wn: hmm.. thanks, let me try that...
[08:16] <newbie263> Jucato: this one does, not sure why...
[08:17] <Jucato> newbie263: is the cdrom line still there in your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[08:17] <newbie263> Jucato: its gone, no cdrom line, well.. at least i can use apt-cdrom... thnk u
[08:18] <h3sp4wn> sudo apt-cdrom add (if that doesn't work you may need to use -d /dev/dvd or some other switch)
[08:19] <Kiongku> done
[08:19] <Kiongku> compiled and installed
[08:19] <Jucato> ehehe
[08:19] <Kiongku> --force-overwrite is needed by this way too
[08:19] <Kiongku> seems cant access
[08:19] <Kiongku> the x-bittorrent or something
[08:20] <Kiongku> i only need a torrent feeder to check it now :p
[08:23] <Kiongku> damn i want a dual core cpu..
[08:23] <Jucato> hehe! I want a processor faster than 1.5Ghz!
[08:23] <Kiongku> whats ur specs?
[08:24] <stray77> Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Dual Core Processor LGA775 Conroe 2.40GHZ 1066FSB 4MB Retail
[08:24] <stray77> im gettin next week
[08:24] <stray77> if available
[08:24] <stray77> fastest machine i got now is piii600 hahahahah
[08:24] <Jucato> AMD Sempron 2200 1.5Ghz, 640MB DDR-RAM
[08:25] <Kiongku> damn
[08:25] <Kiongku> the new duo core
[08:25] <Jucato> ehehe
[08:25] <Kiongku> stray77: lucky bastard
[08:25] <stray77> ive been saving up
[08:25] <Kiongku> joking.. dunt take bastard seriously :p
[08:25] <Kiongku> wow
[08:25] <Kiongku> $$$
[08:25] <Kiongku> stray77: working?
[08:26] <stray77> 2 gb ddr2 800 and im gonna grab ati x1900xtx
[08:26] <stray77> not yet, next week, its all on order
[08:26] <Jucato>  @_@
[08:26] <Kiongku> stray77: no i mean.. to save up so much money.. are u a working person?
[08:26] <stray77> yes
[08:26] <stray77> i work for my money
[08:27] <vursitis> what is the command to stop KDE and go into nano?
[08:27] <dein> dont the duo-cores need i986 kernels?
[08:27] <Hawkwind> vursitis: You don't need to stop KDE to use nano
[08:27] <stray77> dein, i dunno yet
[08:27] <Jucato> vursitis: open up Konsole, and type use nano
[08:27] <dein> i hear they work on i386, but only make use of one core
[08:28] <Jucato> if you want the whole thing to fill up your screen, press Ctrl+Shfit+F (fullscreen mode)
[08:28] <Kiongku> :(..
[08:28] <Kiongku> i'm a student..
[08:28] <dein> ditto
[08:28] <Jucato> I'm a bum! :-D
[08:28] <dein> i want a dual-core
[08:29] <Kiongku> lol Jucato
[08:29] <dein> actually no i dont
[08:29] <Kiongku> dein: same here
[08:29] <Kiongku> xD
[08:29] <Kiongku> LOL.. u want a triple core :P?
[08:29] <Jucato> I don't want dual core.. I just want something fast lol
[08:29] <dein> thinking about it, im satisfied with what ive got right now
[08:29] <dein> thanks to penguin power of course
[08:29] <unix_infidel> Jucato: linux is pretty fast with most anything assuming you're running it with out a lot of bloat.
[08:30] <unix_infidel> the same goes for windows.
[08:30] <vursitis> ?
[08:30] <Jucato> yeah it's fast... but it probably could do a bit faster....
[08:30] <Kiongku> jucato: doh?
[08:30] <unix_infidel> Jucato: if you want kde optimized, compile it for i686
[08:30] <dein> kubuntu with 3.5.3 is noticeably faster than win xp completely stripped down
[08:30] <Jucato> lol
[08:30] <unix_infidel> that's about as fast as your going to get.
[08:30] <danish> hey toliman
[08:31] <Jucato> unix_infidel: as in compile? as in it doesn't matter if I'm using the K7 kernel?
[08:31] <Kiongku> unix_infidel:.. i compiled but really dunno XD
[08:31] <danish> whats the best antivirus for linux
[08:31] <unix_infidel> Jucato: like i said, the kernel is only one layer.
[08:31] <dein> clamav?
[08:32] <unix_infidel> if you want KDE specifically faster.
[08:32] <unix_infidel> try compiling it for i686
[08:32] <Jucato> oh ok
[08:32] <unix_infidel> that's only marginally faster but that's REALLY about as fast as your going to get.
[08:32] <Kiongku> unix_infidel: ehrm u mean recompile kde manually?
[08:32] <_rince_> mrgn
[08:33] <dein> does anyone know if 64 bit wlan drivers have been released for bcmw34xx wlan?
[08:33] <unix_infidel> Kiongku: like i said its pretty asinine to do so.
[08:33] <Jucato> I was just impressed by MEPIS 6's speed, considering it's Ubuntu based and just using a 386 kernel. I was hoping the same could be done with Kubuntu
[08:33] <unix_infidel> but if your a speed junky.
[08:33] <unix_infidel> Jucato: there are probably other things that mepis traded off with for speed vs. ubuntu's functionality
[08:33] <unix_infidel> probably stuff you couldnt see.
[08:33] <Jucato> yeah... probably... that's why I'm investigating...
[08:33] <Hawkwind> Rebuilding KDE for 686 will NOT make it any faster.  Whoever believes that doesn't know much about how KDE is made
[08:34] <dein> kubuntu is pretty fast already
[08:34] <dein> and hawkwind, thems fighting words
[08:34] <Jucato> Hawkwind: he was talking about compiling the kernel, net KDE
[08:34] <unix_infidel> Jucato: nope, i was talking about KDE.
[08:34] <Hawkwind> Jucato: He said compile KDE
[08:34] <Jucato> I also thought Kubuntu was fast. until I installed MEPIS
[08:34] <unix_infidel> some distro's claim i686 optimization.
[08:34] <Jucato> oh... my mistake...
[08:34] <unix_infidel> whether that's founded in anything is really up to benchmarks.
[08:34] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: He doesn't build KDE and doesn't know that building it for 686 gives you absolutely no speed increase
[08:34] <Kiongku> doh ktorrent not good XD
[08:35] <Jucato> Kiongku: how come?
[08:35] <dein> whats wrong kiongky?
[08:35] <vursitis> does anyone know the command to shut down KDE and just run in nano?
[08:35] <dein> erm...
[08:35] <Kiongku> Jucato: the download stays stalled
[08:35] <Hawkwind> vursitis: You do NOT need to stop KDE to use nano
[08:35] <Hawkwind> vursitis: I mentioned that once already
[08:35] <Jucato> Kiongku: and it's KTorrent's fault? @_@
[08:35] <vursitis> i understand that but i dont want the GUI running at the moment
[08:36] <danish> i am trying to install avast antivirus for linux does anybody know which out of the 3 .deb .rpm or .tar.gz which package is better
[08:36] <dein> kiongku, got ports open or upnp?
[08:36] <dein> .deb
[08:36] <dein> or tar
[08:36] <Jucato> vursitis: Ctrl+Alt+F1, then "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[08:36] <Hawkwind> vursitis: killall kdm
[08:36] <h3sp4wn> danish: not necessary (unless its a mail server scanning for windows clients)
[08:36] <vursitis> thankyou much
[08:36] <Kiongku> dein: XD?? i never used ktorrent.. whats upnp
[08:37] <Hawkwind> danish: sudo apt-get install clamav
[08:37] <dein> go into preferences and go to plugins
[08:37] <king4tt4ck> hallo kann ihr wer deutsch? :D
[08:37] <Jucato> KTorrent works well by default... of course, I installed it from the repos :-D
[08:37] <dein> click upnpplugin and hopefully it works with your router
[08:37] <danish> why not avast i use avast on windows
[08:37] <Kiongku> dein: i use a usb modem
[08:37] <dein> otherwise you'll have to forward ports on your own
[08:38] <dein> no hardware firewall?
[08:38] <rredd4>  I get "cpufreq change failed with new_state 1 and result 0"  and  "psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte  1" a lot in dmesg ... can this be fixed?
[08:38] <dein> you need to punch a few holes in any firewall you may have up in order to get any torrent client working well
[08:38] <Snowmadic> anyone know of a good howto for usb keys under linux/kubuntu?
[08:38] <Kiongku> dein: hmm i dunt think so
[08:38] <danish> hawkwind: HOW do i install .deb package
[08:39] <Hawkwind> danish: Give up on the 'Windows junk'  You're using Linux now
[08:39] <dein> hmmmm
[08:39] <Hawkwind> danish: sudo apt-get install <package> or if you downloaded a .deb package for some unknown reason, dpkg -i filename.deb
[08:39] <king4tt4ck> are the kubuntu apt sources.list and the ubuntu sources.list the same?
[08:39] <trpr11> yes
[08:39] <danish> hawkwind: thx
[08:40] <danish> hawkwind: but i'll go with clam if u say
[08:40] <king4tt4ck> but i cant finde some packages for amarok
[08:40] <Hawkwind> danish: What did you download a .deb package of ?
[08:40] <Kiongku> hey guys.. i just realised i dunt have firewall, any suggestion?
[08:40] <dein> try putting 192.168.1.1 in konqueror kiongku?
[08:40] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: Got a router ?
[08:40] <dein> usb modem
[08:40] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: nope using a usb modem
[08:40] <hsn_> is there RIPv1 (routed) daemon?
[08:40] <Kiongku> dein: cannot connect to host
[08:41] <dein> hmm
[08:41] <trpr11> Kiongku: because there aren't any ports open by default, the firewall isn't setup by default for some stupid reason.. its just iptables though.
[08:41] <danish> hawkwind: avast antivirus
[08:41] <trpr11> Kiongku: so you can create a iptables firewall script or get a frontend for iptables to do it for you
[08:41] <Snowmadic> no?
[08:41] <dein> i didn't think iptables was set up by default on kubuntu
[08:41] <Kiongku> trpr11: so so? what should i install.. from the norma repos
[08:42] <Kiongku> guys.. is shorewall any good?
[08:42] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: No
[08:43] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: But that's a personal opinion
[08:43] <trpr11> Kiongku: maybe someone can recommend a frontend. i have no idea; i usually create a script of iptables commands. iptables should already be installed, but without any rules defined
[08:43] <danish> Reading package lists... Done
[08:43] <danish> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:43] <danish> Package clamav is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:43] <danish> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:43] <danish> is only available from another source
[08:43] <danish> E: Package clamav has no installation candid
[08:43] <Hawkwind> danish: STOP!
[08:43] <Hawkwind> !pastebin
[08:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:43] <Hawkwind> danish: ^^^^^^^^^^^^
[08:43] <trpr11> Kiongku: try sudo iptables -L ... should bring up a blank list of rules
[08:43] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: ok.. normally ur personal opinion are nice.. whats ur opinion for one then :p
[08:43] <danish> hawkwind; thats the messege i got
[08:43] <Kiongku> trpr11: ok i trying
[08:44] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: ipkungfu which is written and coded by trappist here in #Kubuntu
[08:44] <dein> hmm he may need to learn to use iptables though
[08:44] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: It's not graphical at all.  But I set it up all by myself after only using Linux for 10 days at the time
[08:44] <Kiongku> ya iptables not set
[08:44] <Kiongku> hmm ipkungfu.. where the heck is it :p
[08:45] <Kiongku> doh i see it.. ok i give it a try
[08:45] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: sudo apt-get install ipkungfu
[08:45] <dein> btw kiongku, what torrent are you trying to get?
[08:46] <Kiongku> pirates of the caribean XD..
[08:46] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: what is ur version of ipkungfu
[08:46] <dein> you sure the torrent isnt just dead
[08:46] <dein> ?
[08:46] <Kiongku> dein: we'll know soon. setting up iptables
[08:47] <dein> cuz alot of "those" torrents aren't seeded often, and as such are perpetually stalled
[08:47] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: I don't use it anymore.  I have a router and this box has no services/ports open to it.  My outside boxes use 0.60 which isn't in Ubuntu.  0.52 is available in most all distros
[08:47] <Kiongku> dein: yah
[08:47] <Kiongku> ah ok
[08:47] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: I used it for many years though.  I remember back in the 0.10 days when it was just being developed
[08:48] <dein> kiongku: go to ktorrent, click the torrent you're downloading and see if there are any seeds or peers on what you're downloading
[08:48] <dein> its in the status tab under info
[08:48] <Kiongku> i installed it.. so its set now?
[08:48] <danish> hawkwind its not working
[08:49] <Hawkwind> danish: Can you be a bit more specific....It's not working means absolutely nothing
[08:50] <danish> hawkwind: the command u gave me for clamv
[08:50] <Hawkwind> danish: Enable the correct repositories or use apt-cache search clamav to search for the package name
[08:50] <noiesmo> !clamav > danish
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clamav - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: i installed ipkungfu.. what do i do with it now?
[08:51] <danish> hawkwind: nothing happened
[08:51] <Kiongku> dein: send me a torrent thats working so that i can test it
[08:51] <dein> ok
[08:51] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: man ipkungfu and read the docs.  It's probably the best documented app I've ever seen for linux
[08:51] <Hawkwind> !info clamav
[08:51] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.88.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 64 kB, installed size 200 kB
[08:52] <Hawkwind> danish: Again, that is a very broad and general statement.  You need to be specific when you are in need of help
[08:52] <dein> Kiongku: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//kubuntu/6.06/kubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[08:52] <danish> hawkwind: sorry i am new to all this i typed apt-cache search clamav in the console and nothing happened
[08:53] <noiesmo> danish you need the universe repo's in your sources.list based on the paste you did before
[08:53] <Hawkwind> danish: Then you need to enable all the repos
[08:53] <dein> be sure to delete that torrent and its files btw, its the 600 mb iso for kubuntu
[08:53] <Hawkwind> !repos > danish
[08:53] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: How do i come out of man ipkungfu?
[08:54] <dein> q
[08:54] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: q
[08:54] <Kiongku> dein: ya lol :p
[08:54] <Kiongku> ok
[08:54] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: sudo /etc/init.d/ipkungfu start    It will error with a message.  Read it and do what it says
[08:55] <azmodean> man, I remember being stuck in man and emacs for ages when I was first getting started
[08:55] <Kiongku> sure
[08:55] <Hawkwind> azmodean: Heh.  It's a crappy feeling.  I remember it too
[08:55] <dein> oh ya kiongku, you also wanna throttle your upload speed when using ktorrent, otherwise you risk it eating all your bandwidth and slowing your internet to a crawl
[08:55] <dein> when i first started linux i started on suse 9.3
[08:55] <dein> read nothing about it just installed it
[08:56] <dein> took me 3 weeks to get it working perfectly again (3d acceleration didnt work though)
[08:57] <Snowmadic> I can see something showing up on the usbfs, but can't seem to follow most of the howto's, as they refer to sda1, 2, etc, and I have no /dev/sd entries.
[08:57] <Snowmadic> :|
[08:57] <Kiongku> dein: i know
[08:57] <dein> oh ok
[08:57] <dein> it working?
[08:57] <Snowmadic> anyone know whether or not kubuntu does something differently that would explain the lack of an /dev/sda?  that's where I mount this usb drive on my debian box, wondering why it doesn't work now.
[08:58] <Snowmadic> or rather, why it doesn't work here.
[08:58] <dein> actually, i was wondering why my midi's don't work
[08:58] <dein> if anyone can help with that
[08:58] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: is it safe to run without a firewall?
[08:59] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: If you have a router, sure.  If you don't, then I'd say no
[08:59] <Jucato> i don't have a software firewall
[08:59] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: Your system is only as secure as *you* make it
[08:59] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: how i know if it is a router?
[08:59] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: You would know if you own a router or not.  Atleast I would hope you would
[08:59] <dein> well 192.168.1.1 usually configures routers
[09:00] <Snowmadic> or .0.1 for netgear
[09:00] <dein> since that didn't work on your system its probably safe to say you dont have one
[09:00] <Snowmadic> actually, both my dlink and my netgear configure on 192.168.0.1
[09:00] <dein> shhh
[09:00] <Kiongku> hmm
[09:01] <Snowmadic> blah.  I sleep now.  to hell with getting this file anywhere.
[09:01] <Kiongku> ~_~..
[09:01] <Kiongku> its a usb modem.. direct connect to net.. so i gues no router
[09:01] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: No, that's a modem
[09:02] <Hawkwind> A router is a router, a modem is a modem
[09:02] <Kiongku> :D
[09:02] <Kiongku> ok
[09:04] <Kiongku> doh
[09:04] <Kiongku> Desktopsecure
[09:04] <Kiongku> panda
[09:04] <unix_infidel> anyone know of a non de specific daemon / app that displays hardware sound volume not pcm or master?
[09:04] <Kiongku> i had a very bad experience with panda in windows.. i wunt touch it again
[09:04] <Jucato> I have an ADSL modem, is that also a router?
[09:05] <Kiongku> nah jacato..
[09:05] <Kiongku> *jucato
[09:05] <Kiongku> hawkwind says modem is modem
[09:05] <unix_infidel> Kiongku: try tab completion its yummy.
[09:05] <unix_infidel> eg type juc and then press [tab] 
[09:05] <Jucato> lol!! i've been using it a lot
[09:05] <Jucato> in Konsole, in Konversation... ehehehe
[09:06] <Kiongku> omg..
[09:06] <Kiongku> i was manually typing it XD
[09:06] <Jucato> ehehe
[09:06] <Jucato> something new you learned
[09:06] <unix_infidel> yes you were.
[09:06] <Kiongku> i cant understand anything for firewall in linux.. i dunt even know how to start ipkungfu
[09:06] <Jucato> you could also press Tab multiple times if there are multiple matches
[09:07] <Jucato> Kiongku: neither do I. I won't go in there yet. I'll read about it soon.
[09:07] <Jucato> Right now, I'm just presuming that I'm not important enough to be hacked :-D
[09:07] <Jucato> I'm sure that I don't have anything important anyway :-D
[09:07] <Kiongku> Jucato: k
[09:08] <Kiongku> Jucato: well.. i dutn care.. i toying with the system XD
[09:08] <_bulut> merhaba
[09:08] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: I told you how to start it earlier
[09:08] <Hawkwind> _bulut: English ?
[09:08] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: Sends me to a readme?
[09:08] <_bulut> no
[09:08] <_bulut> turkish
[09:09] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: No, it tells you what file to edit so that ipkungfu will start
[09:09] <Hawkwind> !turkish
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about turkish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <Hawkwind> !tk
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <Hawkwind> Hmmm, not sure what the country code for Turkey is
[09:09] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: doh
[09:09] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: I mentioned that earlier
[09:10] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: IPKF happens to be the best documented app I've ever seen for Linux.  You can't go wrong with it and it's so very easy to get running
[09:10] <Jucato> then there's Guarddog....
[09:10] <Kiongku> ok
[09:10] <Kiongku> lol
[09:11] <Jucato> lol
[09:11] <unix_infidel> http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40639000/jpg/_40639766_baby_afp203body.jpg
[09:11] <unix_infidel> muahaha.
[09:12] <ironfroggy> are there any packages for pyogre?
[09:15] <Kiongku> whem
[09:15] <Kiongku> Hawkwind
[09:15] <Kiongku> i cant run the command u gave me
[09:15] <Kiongku> does not exist
[09:22] <Kiongku> getting errors with ipkungfu o0
[09:23] <Kiongku> whats insmod
[09:24] <trpr11> insmod loads modules into the kernel
[09:25] <Jucato> lsmod displays which ones are loaded?
[09:25] <Jucato> and rmmod reoves them?
[09:25] <trpr11> yup
[09:25] <Jucato> removes*
[09:25] <Dimon08> an what is modprobe?
[09:25] <Jucato> if you removed a module, would they be restarted next time you boot?
[09:26] <trpr11> its like insmod, but it will load a modules dependencies as well
[09:28] <slougi> Jucato: it depends on whether the module was automatically loaded in the first place
[09:28] <Jucato> oh
[09:28] <slougi> if it was, yes, if not, no
[09:29] <slougi> so if when you boot up it was loaded, then it should be loaded again on the next boot
[09:29] <Jucato> oh...
[09:29] <slougi> there's /etc/modules where you can manually add modules to be loaded
[09:29] <trpr11> Jucato: looking in /etc/modules, i see modules that are loaded at boot
[09:29] <slougi> but that's usually not necessary nowadays...
[09:30] <trpr11> its a pretty short list. where is the rest of the behavior defined? modules.d?
[09:30] <Kiongku> whats iptables "mangle"?
[09:30] <Jucato> does lsmod display modules that are loaded on startup? coz l had 164 the last time. but after uninstalling a lot of stuff, it was reduced to 94
[09:30] <slougi> it often is autodetected nowadays, try running pcimodules
[09:30] <trpr11> Jucato: no. lsmod lists what is currently loaded
[09:31] <slougi> Jucato: lsmod lists what is currently loaded. some things require kernel modules to work, it might be that you had something like that installed
[09:31] <slougi> i seems to have 130 modules loaded
[09:31] <Jucato> thanks
[09:31] <slougi> I wouldn't worry about it as long as it works
[09:31] <slougi> :P
[09:32] <Jucato> anyone here who successfully installed/used Splashy?
[09:32] <trpr11> i agree. and i you are gonna worry about it, you might as well build a monolithic kernel.
[09:32] <charles1952> Can anyone tell me how to switch from Grub to Lilo...I hear it is better. Risks, tips, etc. would be appreciated. ????
[09:33] <Jucato> nah. I'm just worried about things that I don't need/use. that and startup seemed faster after I uninstalled some stuff
[09:33] <slougi> charles1952: why exactly do you want to switch? in my experience lilo is a lot more fragile than grub
[09:33] <trpr11> better how? because distributions have been making that switch the other way around. ditching lilo for grub
[09:33] <Phirax_On_Laptop> "charles1952: why exactly do you want to switch? in my experience lilo is a lot more fragile than grub" agreed
[09:34] <charles1952> Well...it's just htat sort of tip ihat is so helpful. I monitored an earlier converation....
[09:34] <slougi> Jucato: startup time is dominated by services loaded for the most part. stuff like mysql, apache, etc. module loading takes a few seconds at most
[09:34] <charles1952> where the two were discussed...someone said Lilo offer better stability.
[09:34] <Jucato> slougi: and ACPI, Powernowd, HP, CUPS, etc... these I didn't need
[09:34] <slougi> lilo is more traditional, yes. but it has to be rerun every time the kernel is upgraded, and it's conf file is a bit more obtuse...
[09:35] <slougi> stay with grub, it's cool ;)
[09:35] <charles1952> Phirax: 'scuse the typos...its late and I'm tired
[09:35] <slougi> Jucato: yeah, stuff like that
[09:36] <charles1952> slougi: thanks...seems to be a concensus to stay with Grub.
[09:36] <Kiongku> hey ppl.. how do i know if a firewall is running in my system?
[09:37] <slougi> charles1952: np
[09:39] <ubuntu> does anyone here know if atheros drivers (madwifi) is removed from 6.06.1? i'm on a 6.06 livecd and it findsmy card, but after i install and update and reboot it doesnt see it
[09:40] <unix_infidel> ubotu: nope, atheros drivers should work fine.
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nope, atheros drivers should work fine. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <Jucato> hehehe
[09:40] <unix_infidel> erm, he left :P
[09:41] <Jucato> no he didn't
[09:41] <Jucato> *** ubuntu is now known as taylor_slc.
[09:41] <taylor_slc> ok, thanks i will look into it more
[09:47] <apexified> whenever I add a to-do entry in kontact it asks which resource (of two choices) to use and then adds two of the same entries. that's not normal... right? :)
[09:48] <redblades> Hey all!
[09:48] <redblades> I use Ubuntu usually, but I thought I'd give KDE a go too.
[09:48] <redblades> (although I was slightly annoyed when konsole crashed the first time I installed it last night)
[09:54] <Jucato> I have a question about KMail. Is there a way to download ALL mail on the server (using Gmail), something like what happens with Outlook?
[09:55] <Kiongku> can a folder deny permission to access?
[09:55] <Jucato> Kiongku: if you set the permissions right
[09:55] <Kiongku> Jucato: .. hmm
[09:55] <Kiongku> Jucato: i want to access it XS...
[09:56] <ubuntu> whats up?
[09:56] <Kiongku> a folder denying me permission to access
[09:56] <Jucato> who is the owner of the folder, and what are the permissions on it?
[09:56] <dawiz> hey now
[09:56] <Kiongku> dunno
[09:56] <slougi> Jucato: you mean removing it from gmail when it's downloaded locally?
[09:56] <Kiongku> it was auto installed
[09:56] <Jucato> slougi: no.just download it all, both read and unread ones
[09:56] <dawiz> can anyone tell me how to edit this file?
[09:57] <Jucato> Kiongku: you can check it in Konqueror or by doing ls -l <directory name>
[09:57] <dawiz> trying to get my broadcom chips working
[09:57] <slougi> Jucato: ah, don't know
[09:57] <farous> Jucato: i think you need to set that on gmail
[09:58] <Jucato> because it seems that KMail only downloads unread mail, and only if it hasn't been fetched by any e-mail client. So if I read the mail in Gmail, or read it in Thunderbird or in XP, KMail won't download it anymore
[09:58] <dawiz> anyone?
[09:59] <slougi> Jucato: well, you can poke around the kmail settings a bit
[09:59] <dawiz> trying to enable universe repository
[09:59] <farous> Jucato: this is a gamail sett i had similar prob with evol
[09:59] <slougi> are you trying to edit /etc/apt/sources.list?
[09:59] <tk> dawiz: you can see the owner and permissions for the folder by doing "ls -la" in the directory that its in
[10:00] <dawiz> owner and permissions?
[10:00] <Jucato> farous: when I have fetched the e-mail in Evolution, KMail won't fetch it anymore...
[10:00] <dawiz> im trying to edit a file
[10:00] <Jucato> tk: Kiongku was the one asking about that
[10:00] <tk> woops
[10:00] <Jucato> ^_^
[10:00] <tk> dawiz: sorry, I crossed my eyes again :P
[10:00] <dawiz> sources.list
[10:00] <dawiz> all good
[10:00] <slougi> dawiz: you can edit sources.list directly in adept
[10:01] <dawiz> hmmm
[10:01] <slougi> hold on a sec...
[10:01] <Jucato> and when my sister was using Outlook, she would be able to download all the mail from her Gmail inbox...
[10:01] <dawiz> im not used to everything done in the gui
[10:01] <tk> or if you prefer a text editor, can do kdesu kate etc/apt/sources.list
[10:01] <Jucato> all ofit...
[10:01] <dawiz> coming from slack
[10:01] <slougi> try View | Manage Repositories
[10:01] <dawiz> powerpc
[10:01] <tk> dawiz:  vi familiar to you then?
[10:01] <dawiz> yeah
[10:01] <dawiz> or pico
[10:01] <slougi> dawiz: coming from slack, you should know vi, sudo, and what root is...
[10:02] <tk> sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:02] <dawiz> of course
[10:02] <dawiz> im in sources.list now
[10:02] <Jucato> (Ubuntu has no root, so regular "su" won't work unless you create/enable a root account)
[10:02] <dawiz> im in root already
[10:02] <dawiz> not sure how to script the line tho
[10:03] <tk> doesnt the bot have a trigger for repos?
[10:03] <slougi> Jucato: actually, all *nix systems need a superuser (ie root) account, ubuntu just doesn't set a password for it by default ;)
[10:03] <ubuntu> try sudo passwd
[10:03] <ubuntu> and set the root pass
[10:03] <dawiz> i hate when readme's say "edit this" expecting you to know what to edit
[10:03] <dawiz> lol
[10:03] <ubuntu> sure. hehe
[10:04] <dawiz> anybody running wifi?
[10:04] <Jucato> ok. so I presume that "disabled root account" just means a root account with no password?
[10:04] <ubuntu> me
[10:04] <dawiz> broadcom chipset?
[10:04] <ubuntu> noup
[10:04] <slougi> dawiz: deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse <- something like that
[10:04] <slougi> just choose a local mirror, and drop multiverse if you don't want it
[10:04] <slougi> Jucato: yes
[10:05] <slougi> Jucato: you can do for example `sudo su -` to get a real root shell
[10:05] <Jucato> or "sudo -i"?
[10:05] <tk> slougi: doesnt sudo -s do the same? :P
[10:05] <slougi> yes they do :p
[10:05] <Jucato> sudo -i and sudo -s....
[10:05] <Jucato> argh!
[10:05] <ubuntu> mjm
[10:05] <ubuntu> well see you
[10:05] <slougi> but I am used to typing that back from when I switched to ubuntu and had had only limited exposure to sudo ;)
[10:06] <ubuntu> im going to sleep
[10:06] <Jucato> me too. just a quick one-hour catnap :-D
[10:06] <tk> i think im gonna go back to 64bit this weekend and setup chroot or one of the flash setups and see how well that work
[10:06] <tk> +s
[10:07] <joop> mogguh mensen
[10:08] <joop> hallo?
[10:09] <dawiz> how can i tell if universe repositories is enabled?
[10:09] <joop> weet iemand misschien hoe ik een logitech webcam draaiende krijg in kubuntu linux?
[10:10] <joop> can somebody tell me how i can install a driver for logitech for kubuntu linux?
[10:10] <joop> iemand? anybody?
[10:11] <slougi> a driver for what exactly?
[10:11] <unix_infidel> !info mplayer
[10:11] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[10:11] <joop> for a logitech webcam
[10:11] <slougi> logitech makes lots of stuff, ranging from keyboards and mice to web cameras
[10:11] <slougi> what model?
[10:11] <unix_infidel> wow, vmware-player is in multivers?
[10:12] <joop> quickcam messenger
[10:12] <unix_infidel> but server isnt :P
[10:12] <farous> joop: test it first through camorama
[10:12] <joop> i get only a blue field in the window
[10:12] <joop> no picture
[10:13] <farous> !cam
[10:13] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:14] <joop> tnxs ubotu i go look there
[10:15] <dawiz> can someone tell me what to do here?  you can enable the universe component by editing the file "/etc/apt/sources.list" after installing ubuntu
[10:16] <farous> dawiz: uncomment (remove the #) the lines that have universe in the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:16] <dawiz> ahhh ok
[10:16] <dawiz> thanks
[10:16] <farous> :)
[10:16] <dawiz> couldnt remember
[10:16] <dawiz> osx has kinda dumbed me up
[10:17] <dawiz> havent had to edit anything in a while
[10:17] <dawiz> lol
[10:17] <farous> lol
[10:17] <tk> anyone knwo why I would have to reinstall fuse everytime I reboot to get it to work again?
[10:18] <dawiz> if theirs 2 #'s remove both right?
[10:18] <farous> tk do fuse provide a driver module
[10:18] <tk> farous: not sure
[10:19] <farous> tk yah it do it is the driver that is not loaded that is all
[10:19] <farous> tk: sudo nano /etc/modules and add fuse to the end of it
[10:19] <farous> tk: just for you to be sure lsmod |grep fuse will tell you it is loaded :)
[10:20] <tk> before I add this line to modules?
[10:20] <farous> dawiz: which 2 one for main the other for updates i think
[10:20] <tk> yah it is, I reinstalled it everyreboot to get my drives remounted :P
[10:20] <farous> lol
[10:20] <tk> when you find what works, you run with it ;)
[10:20] <farous> yah
[10:21] <tk> /etc/modules is empty
[10:21] <tk> nm
[10:21] <tk> /et/modules is empty ;)
[10:21] <farous> tk: strange give me a min
[10:21] <farous> might be a spell
[10:22] <dawiz> ##  uncomment  the following two lines to add software from the 'universe' repository
[10:22] <tk> farous: no no, I typod first time, I opened /et/modules ET/ not ETC ;/
[10:22] <farous> tk: nope it is correct i have fuse in it too :)
[10:22] <dawiz> take both off?
[10:22] <tk> maybe i need to add my bluetooth as well so I stop unplugging it everyreboot to get it to recognize my devices?
[10:22] <farous> dawiz: do not take this line off. only the ones that start with deb or deb-src
[10:23] <farous> tk: do you use fuse and sshfs for ntfs?
[10:23] <tk> fuse and ntfs-3g
[10:23] <farous> i use it just for remote ssh heard it might be for ntfs too
[10:24] <farous> ok thanx tk
[10:24] <farous> !repos dawiz
[10:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repos dawiz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:24] <dawiz> ok last two lines
[10:24] <dawiz> got em
[10:24] <farous> !repos > dawiz
[10:24] <Kiongku> anyone uses ipkungfu?
[10:24] <tk> ntfs-3g is nice... so far no reported failures since they released this version
[10:25] <farous> tk: have no need for it i nearlhy do not touch ntfs
[10:25] <dawiz> what is repos?
[10:25] <farous> dawiz repositories
[10:25] <tk> yah, my 300gig USB drive is NTFS because I dualboot
[10:25] <dawiz> oh
[10:25] <liku> Hello.
[10:26] <unix_infidel> how do i make it to where in konqueror when i want to enter a folder it have to double click instead of single click
[10:26] <unix_infidel> ?
[10:26] <farous> tk i was lucky i got it fat32 will format it ext3 in the near fut
[10:26] <liku> A quick question: could someone point me to repository, where can I find recent linux kernel sources? (I'm trying to follow some guide on ubuntu page, but I can't find one package)
[10:26] <farous> !repos
[10:26] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:26] <tk> farous: ahh if I oculdnt write to it in unix I'd just make more of my 100gig HD (internal) for kubuntu then ;)
[10:27] <farous> :)
[10:27] <tk> farous: but I had seen some good ntfs r/w systems just before I reinstaled kubuntu so i wasnt too worried
[10:27] <tk> now i just want to get bcak to 64bit and try to get 32bit flash working in it
[10:28] <farous> tk: my main prob is ownership and modes
[10:28] <unix_infidel> anyone?
[10:28] <tk> ownership in ntfs?
[10:28] <tk> unix_infidel: its in the system setting... under uhm
[10:28] <farous> is not supported that is why i do not like it
[10:28] <dawiz> n ow apt-get says it cant find fwcutter
[10:28] <farous> !info fwcutter
[10:28] <ubotu> Package fwcutter does not exist in dapper
[10:29] <farous> !info  bcm43xx-fwcutter
[10:29] <ubotu> bcm43xx-fwcutter: Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware. In component universe, is optional. Version 20060108-6build1 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 100 kB
[10:29] <dawiz> im reading the dapper how to
[10:29] <farous> there you go
[10:29] <tk> farous: ahh I dont use file ownership on mine anyways... just me and my wife and we each have our own laptops :P
[10:29] <unix_infidel> tk: thanks, now i know where to look.
[10:30] <dawiz> i know what it is
[10:30] <farous> tk: cool :)
[10:30] <dawiz> but where do i get it?
[10:30] <farous> dawiz: read ubotu link it say universe repos
[10:31] <liku> !easysource
[10:31] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:31] <farous> dawiz: did you sudo apt-get update
[10:32] <Kiongku> !netfilter
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netfilter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <Kiongku> !info netfilter
[10:32] <ubotu> Package netfilter does not exist in dapper
[10:33] <tk> unix_infidel: I used to know which panel it was under but now i cant find it... regional and accessibility is what stands out to me though
[10:33] <unix_infidel> tk: nah, its under mouse settings :P
[10:34] <unix_infidel> i wasnt being sarcastic....that was driving me nuts since i started using konq in KUbuntu like 4 months ago.
[10:34] <unix_infidel> LOL
[10:34] <tk> really? I looked there too, geez
[10:34] <tk> duh
[10:34] <unix_infidel> :P
[10:34] <tk> regional is for using a win-enabled keyboard :P
[10:34] <unix_infidel> maybe someone should create a factoid :P
[10:34] <unix_infidel> i bet that bothers a LOT of windows converts.
[10:35] <unix_infidel> maybe i should bring it up in the next #ubuntu-meeting meeting for KUbuntu.
[10:35] <tk> hehe
[10:36] <tk> unix_infidel:  my biggest annoyance is hitting win+r for run and not working :P but I know how to fix it
[10:36] <unix_infidel> tk: i dont have a windows button.
[10:36] <unix_infidel> (a godsend)  i just use control + r
[10:36] <tk> I have logitechs dinova desktop... i have a bunch extra keys ;)
[10:36] <tk> just a matter of getting them all to work...
[10:37] <tk> one I finish this forum update for my buddy, it wont matter, reinstalling 64bit and starting over with all my updates and crap *smirks*
[10:37] <tk> s/one/once
[10:38] <tk> and making a valiant attempt to setup dual monitor (svid + lcvd) so I Can still watch my tv shows on my tv instead of on the laptop with kubuntu
[10:38] <tk> lcd rather
[10:39] <unix_infidel> tk: yea, i have an s510 from logitech.
[10:39] <unix_infidel> wireless, no remote, but its nice, only 20bucks
[10:39] <tk> hehe, I wish mine only cost 20$ :P
[10:40] <tk> I like it though because I can use it as a remote in windows for WMP and Winamp when I'm watching movies on my tv.... so it feels like im watching cable or something back home with that extra over functional remote)
[10:41] <tk> which reminds me, I think im 2 weeks behind now on my tv shows :/
[10:41] <tk> too bad azureus wont boot right for me
[10:41] <unix_infidel> tk: heh, yea i dont have time for TV.
[10:42] <tk> unix_infidel: me either... so I download them and watch at my liesure :P I own a TV solely to hook it to my laptop and watch movies/shows on after work on on the weekend when I'm not working a project for my buddy in England
[10:42] <tk> that and it was $90 verus $200 and my wife wanted another TV for back home anways... so I'll just ship it home when I go back soon
[10:45] <unix_infidel> yea...
[10:46] <unix_infidel> why?
[10:46] <tk> crap... im gonna have to reboot just to do this update... because I cant get a stable ftp client in Kubuntu
[10:46] <tk> I got some friends that used to live there
[10:46] <unix_infidel> gftp is choice.
[10:46] <tk> I grew up a few hours south of there ;)
[10:47] <tk> yah gftp i think is the first i tried
[10:47] <h3sp4wn> tk: ncftp is rock solid
[10:47] <unix_infidel> it works well too.
[10:48] <tk> ok, gonna give it a try
[10:48] <tk> i use wget to download my ftp stuff... but I Dont think it does uploads does it?
[10:48] <h3sp4wn> wput
[10:49] <tk> said unrec command
[10:49] <h3sp4wn> !info wput
[10:49] <ubotu> wput: A tiny wget-like ftp-client for uploading files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5-3 (dapper), package size 46 kB, installed size 152 kB
[10:50] <tk> you would think it would come with wget *grumbles*
[10:53] <tk> h3sp4wn: thanks, didnt think to check repo for it :P uploading in progress
[10:53] <tk> maybe with a lil luck I'll have this crap done before another hour passes
[10:57] <dawiz> dont know how to haNdle .deb files
[10:58] <tk> one sec dawiz
[10:58] <dawiz> i have bcm43xx-fwcutter_20060501-5_powerpc.deb
[11:00] <tk> this is from a differnt package but just change the name
[11:00] <tk> sudo dpkg -i qc-usb-messenger-source_1.1-2_all.deb
[11:00] <dawiz> me?
[11:01] <tk> yes
[11:01] <tk> dawiz: sudo dpkg -i yourdebfilename here
[11:06] <dawiz> dpkg: error processing sudo (--install): cannot access archive: no such file or directory
[11:07] <tk> weird
[11:07] <dawiz> what directory shouild it be in?
[11:07] <tk> shouldnt matter
[11:09] <syntaxx> before i shift to ubuntu im using debian sarge my tvtime sound working fine.. but when i shift to ubuntu my sound have a problem no voice just buzzzzz anyone who can help me?
[11:10] <aliasfred> dpkg: error processing sudo (--install): cannot access archive: no such file or directory
[11:10] <aliasfred> you likely typed the wrong command
[11:10] <aliasfred> dpkg doesnt know about sudo
[11:11] <manu_> if u wanna login via root do #sudo passwd    then u can login as root
[11:12] <Healot> sudo -i
[11:12] <syntaxx> before i shift to ubuntu im using debian sarge my tvtime sound working fine.. but when i shift to ubuntu my sound have a problem no voice just buzzzzz anyone who can help me?
[11:14] <sorush20> the dumbest thing happens during adept package apdate
[11:15] <sorush20> first the logo comes up saying that there are updates then I click on the logo on the  task bar and upcomes the adept updater.. after that I'm asked to fetch updates instead of installing the updates its already detected ..
[11:15] <sorush20> why is that..
[11:16] <sorush20> if apt has already determined there are updates why is it wanting to check for updates again?
[11:19] <tk> sorush20:  i believe "fetching" in this sense, means downloading the files it needs to install them
[11:20] <Healot> tk, where is tl?
[11:20] <Healot> i mean tcl
[11:22] <tk> Healot: why are you asking me? heh
[11:23] <Healot> hehe you're tcl's partner
[11:23] <tk> ohhh I see, a comedian
[11:25] <aliasfred> tk: first time you hear this one i guess :)
[11:26] <tk> first time someone was uhm... yah, to actually say it, yes
[11:26] <Healot> just delivering my geek joke...
[11:26] <tk> references have been made before, but nothing like that
[11:26] <syntaxx> before i shift to ubuntu im using debian sarge my tvtime sound working fine.. but when i shift to ubuntu my sound have a problem no voice just buzzzzz anyone who can help me?
[11:27] <Healot> syntaxx, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base"; next adjust the volume using your favorite mixer
[11:27] <Healot> but to play mp3 or other restrictedformat media
[11:27] <Healot> !restrictedformat
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restrictedformat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <Healot> !mp3
[11:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:28] <Healot> hohoho
[11:28] <syntaxx> ok ill try it
[11:29] <dawiz> frickin sweet
[11:29] <tk> !restricted
[11:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:29] <tk>  thats what you were looking for ;)
[11:29] <Kiongku> bleh
[11:29] <syntaxx> Healot: it still buzzzing no voices
[11:29] <Kiongku> my 3dr kernel compile..
[11:30] <Kiongku> *3rd
[11:30] <vge> can somebody explain how i can do updates with apt-get when program that's beeing updated is running in the same time?
[11:31] <Kiongku> vge: why not close program?
[11:31] <vge> well it seems that i dont need to
[11:31] <vge> i just wanna know why is that
[11:31] <grothesk> How do I start kubuntu without X? Is there a grub command?
[11:32] <tk> vge: because unix isnt as restrictive as windows, you can reinstall an executable and restart it using kill -HUP and not have to shutdown at all
[11:33] <Kiongku> the power of linux XD
[11:33] <vge> tk: i know that in a degree, but how come the old prog still open dont mind that it has been updated, but works as nothing has happened?
[11:34] <vge> untill i restart it
[11:34] <tk> a program is generally loaded into memory... so HD access is minimal if at all if possible
[11:34] <Kiongku> tk: if i miss a module in kernel compile.. have to compile the kernel all over again?
[11:35] <tk> Kiongku: dunno, I dont do custom kernels, I would suspect you could just load the module on boot using /etc/modules though
[11:36] <Kiongku> tk: oh ok nvm.. if u miss the module .. it does not show up in new kernel.. no module to load
[11:36] <aliasfred> Kiongku: the module may be already compiled for you, if not, you would have to compile it yourself but no need to recompile the whole kernel tho
[11:37] <tk> Kiongku: I intsalled fuse w/o recompiling my kernel it still shows up at a module though
[11:37] <Kiongku> aliasfred: can u teach me how to compile the addiontal module or send me a link to HowTO
[11:37] <Kiongku> mine is ip table
[11:37] <Kiongku> iptable_mangle .. i miss that
[11:38] <aliasfred> Kiongku: hmm i dont remember on top of my head but i would say that iptable_mangle is already available, what make you think it is not already compiled ?
[11:39] <Kiongku> aliasfred: it is in normal dapper release.. but its a custom kernel i'm talking about
[11:39] <aliasfred> hmm you did recompile your kernel already ?
[11:39] <aliasfred> so you only want the instruction to build only the module ?
[11:40] <Kiongku> nah its in the process.. such a lenthy process XD... oh well nvm.. if its still not good i'll prolly ask
[11:40] <Kiongku> for now i'll let it compile .. in the background
[11:41] <Kiongku> aliasfred: any experinece with ipkungfu?
[11:41] <aliasfred> http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/Kernel-Build-HOWTO.html#MAKE-MODULES
[11:41] <aliasfred> no experience in ipkungfu
[11:41] <aliasfred> i dont understand where are you
[11:42] <aliasfred> i mean you need to recompile your own kernel, can you explain why ?
[11:44] <Kiongku> aliasfred: well i cant get iptable_mangle to load bcoz its not even presetn in the modules
[11:44] <aliasfred> so you recompile your kernel only to have iptable_mangle ?
[11:45] <aliasfred> other people seems to have it without recompiling http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-185151.html as an example
[11:45] <Kiongku> aliasfred: XD yeah.. it was the easiest solution for me
[11:46] <aliasfred> i think you should try to find it already compiled
[11:47] <Kiongku> aliasfred: modprobe iptable_mangle does not work.. with the limitied knowledge i have... already stuck
[11:47] <aliasfred> locate iptable_mangle ?
[11:48] <Kiongku> aliasfred: how?
[11:48] <aliasfred> just type "locate iptable_mangle" in a terminal and see if you got the module
[11:48] <aliasfred> it will try to find it on your whole disk, assuming locate db is up to date :)
[11:50] <Philip5> if i want to install kubuntu for a 64bit intel cpu should i still use the amd64 version???
[11:50] <Philip5> or is there no intell 64bit kubuntu release?
[11:54] <Kiongku> aliasfred: well anyway nvm.. i'll wait for my new kernel to finish
[11:55] <epitaf> hello. i cant get my sound card working, what should i do? its a audiophile 2496
[11:55] <aliasfred> ok
[11:56] <Kiongku> aliasfred: haha
[11:57] <Kiongku> epitaf: sorry.. no idea with sound.. my sound worked OOTB
[11:57] <epitaf> lspci gives me: 0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712 [Envy24]  PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller (rev 02)
[11:58] <epitaf> Someone told me before the linux install that i should intall something called K7 because i am on a non-64 AMD cpu. could that be a solution?
[11:58] <Kiongku> may be.
[11:58] <Kiongku> u can try
[11:59] <epitaf> i did a search in the package manager for k7, but i dont knwo what to choose
[12:00] <MuJ> linux-image-2.6.???-k7 something.. but it totally depends if you have k7 processor or not =)
[12:00] <epitaf> mr processor is a AMD Athlon XP-A, 1100 MHz (5.5 x 200)
[12:01] <Dimon08> hey I have athlon xp 1600, and my kernel is k7-smp; smp will be desabled by default or i need another kernel?
[12:02] <Kiongku> doh.. my intel processor rocks XD.. no need to look for strange kernel.. and compilingmy own :p
[12:02] <Kiongku> frankly whats k7 anyway o0?
[12:02] <epitaf> MuJ: any idea?
[12:02] <epitaf> i listed my cpu above
[12:03] <MuJ> epitaf: k7 works for you.. if you update your kernel you need to reinstall your graphics drivers too and possibly some other stuff
[12:03] <stray77> epitaf, did you try 'sudo modprobe snd-via82xx'
[12:03] <Dimon08> k7-smp is the only k7 kernel in Dapper?
[12:04] <epitaf> stray77: no, i'll try right away
[12:04] <MuJ> though I'd rather use 686 kernel than k7 :/
[12:04] <Kiongku> stray77: stray.. whats k7?
[12:04] <stray77> amd cpu i assume
[12:04] <epitaf> stray77: i got: FATAL: Module snd_via82xx not found. FATAL: Error running install command for snd_via82xx
[12:05] <stray77> try replacing the xx with actual chipset numbers of your sound chip
[12:05] <Kiongku> hey.. should he not try locate if he has or not that snd_via82xx thingi
[12:05] <epitaf> stray77: would that be "ICE1712"
[12:05] <sorush20> tk: no its not downloading the files in the sense to install its really just doing a sudo apt-get update..
[12:08] <syntaxx> before i shift to ubuntu im using debian sarge my tvtime sound working fine.. but when i shift to ubuntu my sound have a problem no voice just buzzzzz anyone who can help me?
[12:08] <epitaf> stray77 : i got: FATAL: Module snd_via82ICE1712 not found.
[12:10] <Sanne> epitaf: you can do a : modinfo snd_via<tab> to list available modules
[12:10] <Kiongku> yay my new kernel has finished compiling
[12:10] <Kiongku> installing new kernel..
[12:10] <epitaf> Sanne : i dont think it has available modules.. all i get is a pc speaker beep
[12:11] <epitaf> Sanne : I have disabled the onboard AC97 controller though, beucase I only want to use the audiohpile 2496
[12:11] <Sanne> epitaf: hmmm, I get none either. modinfo snd<tab> lists all, but that may not help...
[12:11] <JohnFlux> epitaf: do:   ls /lib/modules/$(uname -4)/kernel/sound/pci
[12:11] <Kiongku> BRB ppl.. moving to new kernel :p
[12:12] <JohnFlux> uh
[12:12] <JohnFlux> epitaf: do:   ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/sound/pci
[12:12] <epitaf> Sanne :  modinfo snd<tab> gives the pc speaker sound too
[12:12] <epitaf> JohnFlux : ls: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/sound/pci: No such file or directory
[12:13] <JohnFlux> epitaf: one sec
[12:14] <JohnFlux> epitaf: this is a normal kernel?  you didn't install your own or anything?
[12:14] <epitaf> JohnFlux : that "sound" catalog does not exist on my computer
[12:14] <JohnFlux> epitaf: do:   ls /lib/modules
[12:14] <JohnFlux> epitaf: what kernels does it list there?
[12:14] <fek_> moin
[12:14] <epitaf> JohnFlux : this is a normal kernel, i did the alternate install
[12:14] <epitaf> JohnFlux : 2.6.15-26-386
[12:14] <Sanne> epitaf: that's weird, the modules should have been installed with the kernel.
[12:15] <epitaf> is it because i disabled the ac97 controller in my BIOS?
[12:15] <stray77> epitaf, when you do an lsmod, do you see soundcore?
[12:16] <epitaf> stray77 : no
[12:16] <stray77> epitaf, if youre tryin to get the onboard sound goin it need to be enabled in bios, if youre trying to install a soundcard, leave onboard  sound disabled
[12:16] <JohnFlux> epitaf: do:   apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.15-26-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386
[12:16] <stray77> you need soundcore
[12:16] <JohnFlux> epitaf: maybe a reinstall will work
[12:16] <JohnFlux> ;)
[12:17] <epitaf> JohnFlux : shouldnt i get the k7 image?
[12:17] <epitaf> i have been told so
[12:17] <stray77> as opposed to what?
[12:17] <JohnFlux> well currently you aren't running the k7 image
[12:17] <epitaf> JohnFlux : no, but my cpu is AMD Athlon XP-A, 1100 MHz (5.5 x 20
[12:17] <JohnFlux> stray77: you are running the generic 386 image
[12:18] <epitaf> and someone told me to get the k7 after i installed
[12:18] <JohnFlux> you can if you want
[12:18] <JohnFlux> you probably won't notice a difference
[12:18] <JohnFlux> up to you
[12:18] <epitaf> ok, then i wont then :)
[12:18] <epitaf> i'll just go with what you said
[12:19] <epitaf> JohnFlux : E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:19] <epitaf> JohnFlux : E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:19] <epitaf> oh
[12:19] <JohnFlux> epitaf: close the ubuntu update program thingy
[12:19] <epitaf> hehe, my bad i think
[12:19] <JohnFlux> you probably have that open
[12:19] <epitaf> the synaptic package manager was running
[12:19] <JohnFlux> yeah
[12:20] <JohnFlux> that's it
[12:20] <JohnFlux> ;)
[12:20] <epitaf> :)
[12:21] <epitaf> JohnFlux : ok, its done. i'll reboot and brb
[12:22] <JohnFlux> epitaf: good luck
[12:22] <JohnFlux> epitaf: if it doesn't work, try a different kernel ;)
[12:22] <epitaf> thanks :)
[12:25] <stray77> epitaf, you sure that card works in a pc as opposed to a mac?
[12:25] <stray77> oops
[12:29] <flaccid> i have problem where i can't sudo
[12:29] <flaccid> i get incorrect passwd
[12:30] <flaccid> yet it works from another account
[12:30] <flaccid> is there a sudo'ers list or something?
[12:30] <flaccid> how can i troubleshoot
[12:32] <Riddell> flaccid: you need to be in the admin group
[12:33] <nagyv> Hello! Yesterday I have installed kubuntu to one of my friends, and the basic settings are so nice, that I would like to reset my whole system. (Includeing the installed applications.) Is there a simple way, but reinstall?
[12:33] <adivoinea> hello. is there a way to install postscript (pfm/pfb) fonts on ubuntu?
[12:34] <epitaf> JohnFlux : what do you know, it works :) thanks a lot!
[12:34] <thoreauputic> nagyv: if you mean the KDE interface, you can get back to defaults by moving ~/.kde I think
[12:34] <flaccid> hehe thanks Riddell just realised that
[12:34] <stray77> epitaf, r u saying your sound works now?
[12:35] <nagyv> thoreauputic: I would like to do more then this, a whole reset including the installed programs, and so
[12:35] <thoreauputic> nagyv: ah, that's a bit more work :)
[12:36] <thoreauputic> nagyv: probably not really worth the time and bother
[12:36] <nagyv> thoreauputic: my idea is to click on purge for the linux kernel (or something similar  core program), and then click on install for kubuntu-desktop
[12:36] <flaccid> Riddell: done, but still not work? anything else i have to do, whats that command to see my groups?
[12:37] <thoreauputic> nagyv: you can probably purge the qt libraries ( that will get rid of pretty much everything in KDE) Riddell might have a better idea as he is a developer for Kubuntu
[12:38] <jott> Riddell: could you please explain why the amarok (k)ubuntu diffs are changing all Makefiles (unlike the debian patches)? is this really needed?
[12:38] <yannoickb44> hello, i have kubuntu dapper on a AMD64 and it worked fine until two days ago. Now i get a black screen just after kdm. Do you know this problem ?
[12:38] <epitaf> stray77 : yes it works :)
[12:39] <Riddell> flaccid: `groups`, you need to log out and in again
[12:39] <nagyv> thoreauputic: I was already messing up so much everything on my laptop, that I think kde won't be enough, this is why I think about purgeing something more important thing :(
[12:39] <thoreauputic> nagyv: or purge  kdelibs*
[12:39] <flaccid> ty
[12:39] <Riddell> jott: that's just autoconf doing it's thing.  debian has debian/patches/buildprep.diff
[12:39] <thoreauputic> nagyv: well if you have gtk stuff you could do something similar with libgtk* I imagine
[12:40] <thoreauputic> nagyv: fairly drastic steps :)
[12:40] <nagyv> thoreauputic: and after if I click on install in the same adept session, then should it be ok? (and as a final step I would delete the .* files from my home dir)
[12:40] <flaccid> Riddell: still didn't work
[12:40] <syntaxx> before i shift to ubuntu im using debian sarge my tvtime sound working fine.. but when i shift to ubuntu my sound have a problem no voice just buzzzzz anyone who can help me?
[12:41] <flaccid> i can su no problem, but sudo don't work after logging back in groups command returns admin
[12:41] <nagyv> thoreauputic: I have already tryed to get rid of everything {ubuntu, but not kubuntu} packages
[12:41] <thoreauputic> nagyv: how re you going to use adept after purging stuff it depends on? Unless it is in RAM it will disappear in a puff of smoke I would think
[12:41] <thoreauputic> nagyv: if you must do this, i would use apt-get and or aptitude from the command line
[12:41] <jott> Riddell: there is no buildprep.diff (at least not in the amarok_1.4.1-3.diff) also they also made ruby as dependency ... so are there other critical issues?
[12:42] <nagyv> thoreauputic: I don't wan't to accept the changes (purging), just get a view of them, and then change back the very basic things to installed
[12:42] <jott> Riddell: (i'm building a svn deb)
[12:42] <thoreauputic> nagyv: try sudo apt-get -s remove < list of things you want to try here >
[12:43] <thoreauputic> -s for "simulate"
[12:44] <sorush20> if there a ubuntu program that  Ican use to unformat
[12:44] <Riddell> jott: actually debian does a tar within .orig for amarok so they don't have buildprep Makefile changes
[12:45] <west-en> best bruning program is ... ?
[12:45] <west-en> what is the best burning program fr kubuntu?
[12:45] <Riddell> but they have DEB_KDE_CVS_MAKE := yes so the result is the same
[12:45] <yannoickb44> hello, i have kubuntu dapper on a AMD64 and it worked fine until two days ago. Now i get a black screen just after kdm. Do you know this problem ?
[12:45] <thoreauputic> west-en: k3b
[12:45] <Riddell> jott: amarok in edgy also has ruby as a dependency
[12:46] <west-en> k3b? but i already have that, and i can't make supervideocds in it
[12:46] <thoreauputic> I don't even know what a "supervideocd" is :)
[12:46] <jott> Riddell: yes.. i looked at this patch as it metioned that this is difference to the debian package ...
[12:47] <MuJ> #kubuntu
[12:47] <MuJ> #kubuntu [13:46]  [MuJ(+i)]  [16:#kubuntu(+cfn #ubuntu-unregged)] 
[12:47] <MuJ> [#kubuntu]  #kubuntu
[12:47] <MuJ> aaarhg... stupid putty
[12:47] <west-en> a supervideocd is like a videocd but better queality
[12:47] <jott> Riddell: but as for now it will be fine to use some modified debian patches i guess....
[12:51] <visham> hey can anyone tell me how to change the console colors(no gnome, kde etc ie., when gdm is off)?
[12:51] <without-wires> hello
[12:53] <visham> hey can anyone tell me how to change the console colors(no gnome, kde etc ie., when gdm is off)?
[12:55] <Sanne> nagyv: I have a list of installed packages just after my kubuntu installation, would that somehow help you?
[12:55] <west-en> r det bara jag som hr det i extremt lngsam takt
[12:55] <visham> hey can anyone tell me how to change the console colors(no gnome, kde etc ie., when gdm is off)?
[12:55] <nagyv> Sanne: I think so :)
[12:56] <Sanne> nagyv: ok, wait a sec, I'll upload it somewhere.
[12:57] <Sanne> nagyv: http://sanne.phpnet.us/kubuntu/kubuntu-6.06-packages.txt
[12:58] <nagyv> it's really weird! I started (just to see what should I change) to purge and remove everything. Then I added bakc kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-core, and the Linux kernel is still would not be installed. It seems that they doesn't depend on it.
[12:58] <nagyv> Sanne: thx
[12:59] <nagyv> Sanne: is there a program to have a similar file for my actual installation?
[12:59] <Sanne> nagyv: you're welcome :). Keep in mind that the versions don't reflect the 6.06.1 updates, though.
[12:59] <nagyv> Sanne: of course, the name will be hopefully enough for me
[12:59] <Sanne> nagyv: I'll get you the command I used, just have to verify quickly, sec.
[01:02] <Sanne> nagyv: replace "filename.txt" with a name of your choice: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l > filename.txt
[01:04] <nagyv> Sanne: thx
[01:05] <Sanne> nagyv: yw. Want me to explain the parts of the command so you can adjust if needed?
[01:07] <nagyv> Sanne: thx, what I see: CLOUMNS the width of the table, dpkg the package manager, with option -l (probably list), > put it into filename.txt I am right? I am more-or-less novice, so I understand a lot, but can do little on my own.
[01:07] <Sanne> nagyv: yeah, all correct :)
[01:09] <nagyv> I think I arrived to froze Adept. :( Will the changes be saved? (I hope not!)
[01:10] <Sanne> nagyv: usually if you need kill an app it won't save
[01:20] <jujimufu> ok, so I try to reboot on my PC with my old ubuntu menu.lst file and initrd and all, and while it boots normally, I get to the screen with the blueish kubuntu logo and the loading bar below, and it says the usual stuff like "Starting Network     Ok" etc etc, but then, after all of this finishes, I get to the same screen, with the loading bar empty, and writing nothing below and doing absolutely nothing. It just freezes there., Any ideas?
[01:22] <jujimufu> now ,after waiting for 5 minutes, it says "restarting Common Unix printing system: cupsd                        ok" and it just stays there...
[01:23] <Kiongku> new kernel up and working
[01:23] <Kiongku> aliasfred: yo u here?
[01:24] <Philip5> jujimufu: try to set spash=off when you boot and if the kubuntu splash screen first turn black and then you see the kubuntu logo again then i think it's your xorg.conf that need tweaking
[01:24] <Philip5> splash=off
[01:26] <jujimufu> wait
[01:30] <jujimufu> Philip5: I still get the kubuntu screen
[01:30] <jujimufu> Philip5: I will reboot and chroot to my disk and restore my backed up xorg.conf
[01:31] <Philip5> jujimufu: do you get a splash screen even with splash=off?
[01:31] <jujimufu> yeay
[01:32] <Philip5> try splash=silent then
[01:32] <jujimufu> but that splash screen used to work fine
[01:32] <jujimufu> then I experimented with a new kerne;
[01:32] <jujimufu> the new kernel wouldn't boot, so I restored my menu.lst and tried to reboot
[01:32] <Philip5> but if you don't have the splash screen you will see what happens better
[01:32] <jujimufu> yeah
[01:33] <jujimufu> well, I will restore my xorg.conf and see what happens then
[01:33] <buz> is anyone using google earth linux on dapper?
[01:33] <jujimufu> thanks :)
[01:33] <jujimufu> buz: I've used it, yeah :)
[01:33] <buz> jujimufu: mine is totally buggy
[01:33] <Philip5> jujimufu: have you updated your kernel but use ati or nvidia drivers?
[01:33] <jujimufu> buz: it is? where id you get it from
[01:33] <buz> randomly inserts totally wrong textures
[01:33] <jujimufu> Philip5: I have intel i915
[01:33] <buz> google
[01:33] <jujimufu> buz: I got it from automatix.
[01:33] <jujimufu> buz: getautomatix.org
[01:33] <jujimufu> !automatix
[01:33] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[01:34] <jujimufu> it is a script that automatically installs LOTS of stuff.
[01:34] <buz> could it be that the nvidia drivers are troubling because i use twinview?
[01:34] <buz> i know automatix ;)
[01:34] <jujimufu> I wouldn't know, I have intel i915
[01:34] <buz> is i915 fast enough for google earth?
[01:34] <buz> (that is about the only thing i ever use 3d for anywaY)
[01:34] <jujimufu> google for "google earth"+linux+nvidia+twinview or something
[01:35] <jujimufu> buz: well, it runs xgl just fine on kororaa, so yeah, I think it is :)
[01:35] <buz> i must have another definition of running fine ;)
[01:35] <jujimufu> eh
[01:35] <buz> something that doesnt survive 1 day of work isn't running fine ;)
[01:36] <jujimufu> well..
[01:36] <jujimufu> yeah :)
[01:39] <crazy_penguin> Good afternoon everyone!
[01:41] <jujimufu> ok guys
[01:41] <jujimufu> the link /etc/X11/X , where does it normally link to?
[01:41] <fdoving> jujimufu: /etc/X11/X -> /usr/bin/Xorg
[01:41] <VincentMX> hi
[01:43] <jujimufu> fdoving: do I do something wrong? The command for linking is: ln -s <target directory> <filename>, isn't it?
[01:43] <jujimufu> because I type ls X and it just prints the filename
[01:43] <fdoving> jujimufu: ln -s /usr/bin/Xorg /etc/X11/X
[01:43] <jujimufu> ok thanks
[01:43] <VincentMX> does anybody know why i dont have sound on my laptop? multimedia applications do run, but none of them make any sound
[01:43] <fdoving> jujimufu: ln -s sourcefile newlink
[01:44] <_thumper_> hi all
[01:44] <_thumper_> having issues with ipv6
[01:44] <_thumper_> I have blacklisted it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:44] <_thumper_> rebooted
[01:44] <_thumper_> but#
[01:44] <_thumper_> modprobe -l ipv6 shows it loaded
[01:44] <SleepGoss> blacklist ?
[01:44] <_thumper_> yeah
[01:44] <jujimufu> Philip5: I found what the problem was - I had accidentally removed /etc/X11/X ...
[01:44] <SleepGoss> why u didn't use aliases list ?
[01:45] <jujimufu> fdoving: thanks ;)
[01:45] <z421> hello!
[01:45] <Philip5> jujimufu: then it's not strange it didn't work :)
[01:45] <jujimufu> hey z421
[01:45] <fdoving> _thumper_: did you follow a howto?
[01:45] <jujimufu> Philip5: yeah, but I hadn't noticed :)
[01:46] <z421> yesterday i changed my hostname in the /etc/hostname file, and today (after a reeboot) i can't access sudo, because auf that error: "sudo: unable to lookup winnie via gethostbyname()". what can i do agnainst this problem?
[01:46] <_thumper_> fdoving: not a real howto but one on ubuntuforums
[01:46] <jujimufu> how do I start kdm from console?
[01:46] <fdoving> _thumper_: do you have the link?
[01:46] <jujimufu> meh, nevermind
[01:46] <_thumper_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206692
[01:47] <_thumper_> from gOOn, post #7
[01:47] <z421> can it be, that the problem ist in the /etc/hosts? because 127.0.1.1 is linked to z421-desktop.
[01:48] <_thumper_> my apt-get has ip addresses resolved to 1.0.0.0
[01:48] <fdoving> z421: yes, you have to edit /etc/hosts too.
[01:48] <_thumper_> seems to be our router here stuffs up on ipv6
[01:48] <SleepGoss> _thumper_ i followed a howto yesterday, (but don't remember URL) that tell to add 3 lines in aliases list and comment the original one
[01:48] <fdoving> _thumper_: you're just half way there.
[01:48] <z421> fdoving: and how can i do this now?
[01:48] <_thumper_> SleepGoss, I also changed the alias file as well#
[01:49] <_thumper_> but IIRC it was just changing ipv6 to something else
[01:49] <z421> fdoving: but why!? under debian it wasn't nessacery to do this ...
[01:49] <fdoving> z421: depends on the configuration of /etc/host.conf
[01:50] <_thumper_> alias net-pf-10 ipv6 -> alias net-pf-10 off
[01:50] <_thumper_> in aliases
[01:50] <fdoving> z421: i belive debian have the same configuration as we ((k)ubuntu).
[01:50] <fdoving> _thumper_: correct, did you do that too?
[01:50] <_thumper_> yep
[01:51] <z421> fdoving: thanx, i'll use the ubuntu live cd to correct this problem.
[01:51] <fdoving> _thumper_: this is what i do: in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases change: alias net-pf-10 off
[01:51] <fdoving> ehm.. bad paste. anyway..
[01:51] <fdoving> change alias net-pf-10 ipv6 to alias net-pf-10 off
[01:52] <_thumper_> fdoving, yep did that yesterday
[01:52] <fdoving> _thumper_: and at the bottom set: alias ipv6 off
[01:52] <_thumper_> fdoving, ahh, missed that bit
[01:52] <fdoving> that's the missing part then.
[01:52] <_thumper_> fdoving, thanks - rebooting now
[01:55] <demente> hi all!
[01:56] <Kiongku> hey guys.. how do i write a command in autostart to be executed as root?
[01:56] <fdoving> at boot time? or at login time?
[01:57] <demente> Hello? Sorry, I'm not sure If I've logged in yet or not....
[01:57] <Kiongku> fdoving i want sudo ipkungfu to be executed at login time i guess
[01:57] <fdoving> Kiongku: what ipkungfu?
[01:57] <Kiongku> fdoving: its a firewall
[01:57] <fdoving> ok, you want the firewall to be setup before the network interface is brought up, right?
[01:58] <Kiongku> fdoving: nope i rather it runs after that.. it fetch ip from the interface
[01:58] <fdoving> Kiongku: you can put a file in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ make it executable and put your ipkungfu into it.
[01:58] <fdoving> ah, ok.
[01:59] <fdoving> Kiongku: then i'd suggest using /etc/network/if-up.d/ instead
[01:59] <Kiongku> hmm
[02:00] <Kiongku> fdoving: shoudl i put script or ipkungfu itself?
[02:00] <Kiongku> and will it run as root bcoz it need root access otherwise it returns error
[02:00] <fdoving> yes, that's exactly what /etc/network/if-up.d/ is for.
[02:01] <fdoving> _thumper_: did it work for you?
[02:01] <Kiongku> ok.. so i put ipkunfu itself?
[02:01] <_thumper_> fdoving, does "lsmod | grep ipv6" mean that it isn't loaded?
[02:01] <Kiongku> *ipkungfu?
[02:01] <_thumper_> if it returns nothing
[02:01] <Kiongku> ya
[02:01] <z421> re
[02:01] <z421> okay, it's working again.
[02:01] <fdoving> _thumper_: that would mean success, yes :)
[02:01] <_thumper_> fdoving, then it wasn't my problem :(
[02:02] <Kiongku> fdoving: ehrm.. should i pu a script or ipkungfu itself?
[02:02] <fdoving> _thumper_: ok, what is the symptoms of your problem then?
[02:02] <_thumper_> if I do apt-get update, I get names resolved to 1.0.0.0
[02:02] <_thumper_> if I then ping, ping works
[02:02] <fdoving> Kiongku: if ipkungfu is a script, you can safely put it there.
[02:02] <Kiongku> fdoving: i'l give it a try
[02:02] <Jucato> still with the ipkungfu?!?!?!
[02:02] <_thumper_> Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)
[02:02] <Kiongku> jucato: hehe yeah man
[02:02] <_thumper_> ING archive.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.182) 56(84) bytes of data.
[02:03] <_thumper_> missing P
[02:03] <Jucato> don't you ever go to sleep? ehehe
[02:03] <fdoving> _thumper_: ok, hang on.
[02:03] <Swatgoss> stupid question ... we use ipv4, ipv6 is configured by default, but where is ipv5 ?
[02:03] <fdoving> _thumper_: try to run 'env|grep -i proxy' from the commandline.
[02:03] <VincentMX> anybody knows how i can set my sound deamon to arts?
[02:03] <Kiongku> Jucato: Lol
[02:04] <fdoving> Swatgoss: doesn't exist :)
[02:04] <Swatgoss> Jucato i just wake up ...
[02:04] <_thumper_> fdoving: nothing
[02:04] <fdoving> _thumper_: ok, do you have any proxy settings anywhere, that you're aware of?
[02:04] <_thumper_> fdoving: it is a fairly new install
[02:04] <_thumper_> none that I'm aware of
[02:04] <Swatgoss> fdoving don't exist like AMD K9 archi or noone never worked on it ?
[02:04] <Jucato> whoa! how many hours of sleep did you get? I just went for a short catnap, and ended up sleeping for 3 hours...
[02:05] <Jucato> err.. now he left :-D
[02:05] <Swatgoss> Jucato me ?
[02:05] <Jucato> no. Kiongku :-D
[02:05] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: I never bothered with sleeping (and its too late now)
[02:05] <fdoving> Swatgoss: never been thought of at all, i guess. :)
[02:05] <Jucato> lol ehehe
[02:05] <fdoving> _thumper_: ok, do you have a /etc/apt/apt.conf file? does it say anything about proxies?
[02:06] <asimon> Swatgoss: ipv5 was an experimental protocol which never got public usage.
[02:06] <Jucato> let's see what Google spits out about ipv5 :-D
[02:06] <Jucato> kool! asimon's here :-D
[02:06] <_thumper_> fdoving: it is commented out with //
[02:06] <asimon> Jucato: :)
[02:06] <Jucato> wb Kiongku
[02:06] <_thumper_> / Acquire::http::Proxy "false";
[02:06] <Kiongku> fdoving: to test out if it works.. should i restart completely or just end session and relog in?
[02:06] <fdoving> Swatgoss: http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2003/06/what_ever_happened_to_ipv5.html
[02:06] <Swatgoss> asimon lol like K9 archi :p would be surprising that it had never been used ...
[02:06] <Jucato> Swatgoss: and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv5
[02:07] <Swatgoss> ty
[02:07] <Jucato> fdoving: that's the first search result in Google, eh? :-D
[02:07] <asimon> Jucato: That is where I have my ipv5 knowledge from. ;-)
[02:07] <fdoving> Kiongku: flush any firewall rules, bring down the network interface, and bring it back up.
[02:07] <fdoving> Jucato: yes.
[02:07] <kai> Hi there!
[02:07] <Jucato> kool
[02:07] <Kiongku> Kiongku: bring it down? and how flush..
[02:07] <Kiongku> oops
[02:07] <Jucato> lol
[02:07] <Kiongku> fdoving:  XD.. bad habti of mine
[02:08] <fdoving> Swatgoss: so it apparently exists :)
[02:08] <kai> My Kubuntu-splash during boot-time is gone. reinstalling the packages doesn't help. Ideas?
[02:08] <Kiongku> Jucato: i still yet to master tab
[02:08] <Jucato> ^_^
[02:08] <Kiongku> fdoving: how flush?..
[02:08] <Jucato> SubNet: what does it show now when you boot?
[02:08] <SubNet> Texct-Bootmessages
[02:09] <Jucato> hmmm...
[02:09] <SubNet> Same thing during shutdown
[02:09] <Jucato> do you remember doing anything before this started happening?
[02:09] <fdoving> Kiongku: download and run this: http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/scripts/rc.flush-iptables.txt
[02:09] <SubNet> I had problems with this before. After an update through adept-updater it happened
[02:09] <fdoving> Kiongku: that will flush all your iptables rules.
[02:10] <SubNet> Maybe grub is the problem?
[02:10] <Swatgoss> as far as i red (sry, don't remember my past time of read) no reason are explained, not fast enough, major incompatibility ... all this kind of thingsenough
[02:10] <Jucato> SubNet: nope. nothing to do with grub. something with USplash
[02:10] <SubNet> kernel-option splash should start the splash, doen'
[02:10] <SubNet> t it
[02:10] <Swatgoss> - enough
[02:10] <Jucato> SubNet: try entering this command in Konsole: "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so"
[02:10] <SubNet> OK.
[02:11] <Jucato> then choose the one labelled "kubuntu-artwork-something..."
[02:11] <fdoving> Kiongku: now you can check that all rules were flushed with 'sudo iptables-save', then bring down the interface 'sudo ifdown eth0' if eth0 is your network interface. and then 'sudo ifup eth0' to bring it back up, to check that the firewall script was executed use 'sudo iptables-save'
[02:11] <asimon> fdoving: Regarding that script: shouldn't the flush commands come before defaulting the policies to accept?
[02:11] <VincentMX> anybody knows how i can set my sound deamon to arts?
[02:11] <Jucato> "kubuntu-splash.so"...
[02:11] <fdoving> asimon: don't think that would matter. would it?
[02:12] <scorpion007> Hi, has anyone got problems running KWord in dapper? It fails to load with the following errors: koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: kwordpart.desktop not found. koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: Run 'kde-config --path services' to see which directories were searched, assuming kde startup had the same environment as your current shell. koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: Check your installation (did you install KOffice in a different 
[02:12] <scorpion007>  ?)
[02:12] <Jucato> SubNet: what does it show?
[02:12] <fdoving> asimon: http://www.faqs.org/docs/iptables/rcflush-iptablestxt.html
[02:12] <asimon> fdoving: Well the tiny timeframe between could accept unwanted traffic. Probably not much to do havok, but I think it would be better practive to first flush the talbes and then set the policies to accept.
[02:12] <scorpion007> The funny thing is, I'm able to run it with kdesu
[02:13] <Kiongku_> ehrm..
[02:13] <Jucato> ...
[02:13] <Kiongku_> bringing now interface.. it means cutting the internet conenction right?
[02:13] <Kiongku_> *down
[02:13] <fdoving> kiongku_, correct.
[02:13] <Jucato> cut cut cut...
[02:14] <Kiongku_> fdoving: crap.. not work
[02:14] <fdoving> kiongku_, what didn't work? executing the script? is it executable?
[02:15] <Kiongku_> fdoving: when i do ls it appears as green
[02:15] <fdoving> that's good.
[02:15] <Kiongku_> i suppose its executable?
[02:15] <fdoving> yes.
[02:16] <Kiongku_> doh nvm.. that guy wants me to sudo ipkungfu each time i come in ~_~
[02:16] <scorpion007> Interesting...I ran kbuildsycoca and KWord now loads normally...
[02:16] <asimon> scorpion007: Is this from a new installation or did you updated from an older version?
[02:16] <fdoving> kiongku, ok then you can put it in ~/.kde/Autostart/
[02:17] <Kiongku_> fdoving: ehe if in Autostart.. it does not run as root right?
[02:17] <fdoving> kiongku, i'd suggest adding a wrapper-script to invoke it with 'kdesu ipkungfu'
[02:17] <scorpion007> asimon: well, this was a fresh install, but I've been using it since it was out
[02:17] <Kiongku_> its a script console
[02:18] <fdoving> that would however require you to type your password.
[02:18] <Kiongku_> @_@ ah forget it.. my head.. hurts i had enough for today.. i recompiled my kernel today for the 3rd time
[02:18] <Kiongku_> i forgot iptable_mangle module.. missing item for ipkungfu
[02:19] <syntaxx> i remove alsa-base and i still have sound after reboot how can i fix that? im trying to fix my tvtime
[02:19] <SubNet> Jucato: mom - telephone
[02:20] <asimon> scorpion007: I just see that this bug is already filed into the bug tracking system (Bug #39724)
[02:21] <Jucato> oh
[02:21] <scorpion007> asimon: whats the ling to the bug system?
[02:21] <asimon> scorpion007: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/39724
[02:21] <Jucato> SubNet: so how did it go?
[02:22] <Jucato> 2 months till Edgy...
[02:22] <scorpion007> Well, I googled but couldn't find it...
[02:23] <Kiongku_> Jucato: hey Jucato go to this site and tell me what u get from the scan of ur ports https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
[02:24] <Kiongku_> scorpion007: which program?
[02:24] <Jucato> I don't have a software firewall, btw
[02:24] <Kiongku_> Jucato: i know let me know :P
[02:24] <Jucato> which part should I read?
[02:24] <Kiongku_> Jucato: i just want to know how ur system reacts
[02:25] <Kiongku_> Jucato: Proceed.. and scan for common portsd
[02:25] <Jucato> okie
[02:25] <SubNet> Jucato: No alternatives for kubuntu-aplsh.so
[02:26] <Jucato> SubNet: kubuntu-splash.so ?
[02:26] <SubNet> kubuntu-splash.so ...
[02:26] <Kiongku_> usplash
[02:26] <SubNet> ahh - now i understand :)
[02:26] <SubNet> mom
[02:26] <syntaxx> how can i go back to grub when i installed lilo?
[02:27] <scorpion007> Kiongku_: just KWord wouldn't load but i've fixed it...
[02:27] <Jucato> SubNet: try to check (in Adept) if the package called "kubuntu-artwork-usplash" is installed and that "usplash" is also installed
[02:27] <Jucato> Kiongku: it's done. which part/result are you interested in?
[02:27] <SubNet> The command lets me select between usplash-default and kubuntu-splash.
[02:27] <Jucato> all the ports are closed...
[02:27] <SubNet> kubuntu-splash is default
[02:27] <Jucato> SubNet: yes
[02:28] <Jucato> hmm...
[02:28] <SubNet> Have a look at adept ...
[02:28] <SubNet> mom
[02:28] <Jucato> mom???
[02:28] <SubNet> wait am MOMent
[02:28] <Jucato> aaah
[02:28] <Jucato>  @_@
[02:28] <SubNet> ;)
[02:28] <fdoving> syntaxx: you can try: 'sudo apt-get remove lilo;sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub' if that doesn't do it, you can also try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow grub'
[02:29] <syntaxx> ok thanks
[02:29] <Jucato> Kiongku: I think I failed the tests. coz I got big FAILED stamps
[02:29] <Kiongku_> :p
[02:29] <fdoving> syntaxx: if that also fails, you can use 'grub-install /dev/hda' given /dev/hda is the disk where you want grub to be installed.
[02:29] <waspius> i am trying to make shift+alt to change language in the keyboard...but it is not allowing me..anyone know what i can do?
[02:29] <Kiongku_> Jucato: i got a big green pass ^^
[02:30] <SubNet> Jucato: kubuntu-artwork-usplash and usplash are installed properly
[02:30] <Jucato> hm....
[02:30] <Jucato> now I'm stumped...
[02:30] <fdoving> _thumper_: any news on your problem?
[02:30] <Jucato> SubNet: did you modify your menu.lst before this started happening?
[02:30] <Jucato> Kiongku_: coz you've got a firewall...
[02:30] <Kiongku_> Jucato: :D
[02:30] <Jucato> bleh
[02:30] <SubNet> maybe ... i often modify it
[02:30] <Kiongku_> SubNet: What u want to do?
[02:31] <Jucato> his USplash doesn't show up
[02:31] <SubNet> Want my usplash back, Kiongku_ :)
[02:31] <Kiongku_> SubNet: did u compile a kernel recently?
[02:31] <SubNet> Kiongku_: no
[02:32] <Jucato> I think the kernel line in menu.lst should end in "ro quiet splash". something like "kernel /boot..... root=.... ro quiet splash"
[02:32] <Jucato> for the normal mode. (the recovery mode ends in "ro single" only...)
[02:32] <SubNet> \/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/sda6 ro quiet splash vga=normal
[02:32] <Jucato> SubNet: try removing the vga=normal part
[02:33] <SubNet> mybe vga=normal makes this not work?
[02:33] <SubNet> :)
[02:33] <SubNet> OK
[02:33] <SubNet> Back in 2 Minutes ...
[02:33] <Kiongku> SubNet: hmm check /boot/config-`uname -r` and see if VGA16, VESAFB and Framebuffer console are enabled (Y)
[02:33] <Jucato> cool
[02:33] <_thumper_> fdoving, no, I'm just writing up a fuller description for ubuntuforums
[02:33] <Jucato> Kiongku: nah, I think the vga=normal does it
[02:33] <Jucato> I mean, removing it
[02:33] <fdoving> _thumper_: ok, give me the link to the post when you're done. And i'll take a look at it. :)
[02:33] <SubNet> Kiongku: this worked before and i did not change things manually ...
[02:33] <Kiongku> SubNet: ya.. strange vga=normal.. normally its a number
[02:34] <SubNet> I try without vga=normal ... be back soon
[02:34] <Jucato> or totally absent
[02:34] <_thumper_> fdoving, ta
[02:34] <Jucato> the default menu.lst doesn't have it
[02:34] <Jucato> grr... now I can't get those big FAILED stamps off my mind...
[02:34] <syntaxx> what sound card driver does kubuntu install by default? i remove alsa-base alsa-utils and linux-sound-base but there's still sound
[02:35] <Kiongku> Jucato: heh?
[02:35] <Jucato> the thought of failing will nag me until I setup a firewall... grrrr!
[02:35] <Jucato> syntaxx: arts?
[02:36] <fdoving> _thumper_: you don't have a keyword blocking feature in your router do you?
[02:36] <Kiongku> Jucato: hehe then see u in 4 hrs. i have to go out
[02:36] <Jucato> lol
[02:36] <Jucato> I'll try to fight hard the urge to install a firewall... not yet at least
[02:36] <fdoving> _thumper_: you can also try to delete the proxy line in /etc/apt/apt.conf
[02:36] <Kiongku> Jucato: its easy the ipkungfu.. i'll help u with it later.. when i back
[02:37] <syntaxx> Jucato: hmm if i remove arts it will remove the kubuntu-desktop also
[02:37] <Jucato> IF i'm still here
[02:37] <Sanne> syntaxx: the sound card driver is a kernel module that gets loaded automatically after detecting your hardware. Type "lsmod | grep snd" to see which one is loaded.
[02:37] <Jucato> oooh
[02:37] <Jucato> didn't know that...
[02:37] <fdoving> kdelibs depend on arts. you can't uninstall it.
[02:38] <syntaxx> Sanne: im trying to fix my tvtime no voice only buzzzz sound anyone know how?
[02:38] <fdoving> you can however remove the executable bit on the artsd binary.
[02:38] <fdoving> if you really want to disable it.
[02:38] <Sanne> syntaxx: not really, but checking if the correct driver is loaded would be worth a try.
[02:38] <syntaxx> my tvtime sound works fine before i shift to ubuntu
[02:38] <syntaxx> im using debian before and it works good
[02:38] <syntaxx> now no voice only buzzz sound
[02:39] <ubuntu__> alguem do brazil ae?
[02:39] <asimon> Arts can also be deactivated by System Settings->Sound System, uncheck 'Enable the sound system'. Then it wont be started by KDE.
[02:39] <Sanne> syntaxx: can you find your card with "lspci -vv"?
[02:39] <Jucato> SubNet: did it work?
[02:39] <SubNet> Re
[02:39] <ubuntu__> /linuxajuda
[02:39] <SubNet> jup
[02:39] <SubNet> thx :)
[02:39] <Jucato> kool!
[02:40] <Jucato> glad to hear that. :-D
[02:40] <SubNet> Jucato: where are you from?
[02:40] <syntaxx> Sanne: multimedia audio control intel corporation 82801EB/ER AC'97 Audio Controller
[02:40] <Jucato> Philippines
[02:40] <SubNet> Ahh - OK ... germany ...
[02:40] <ubuntu__> porra
[02:40] <ubuntu__> alguem do brazil ae
[02:40] <ubuntu__> nao?
[02:41] <Jucato> oooh
[02:41] <syntaxx> Sanne: the other one is Subsystem: Pinnacle Systems Inc. PCTV pro <-- my capture card
[02:41] <syntaxx> Jucato: kabayan :D
[02:41] <SubNet> worldwide interoperability :D
[02:41] <Jucato> kool
[02:41] <SubNet> really cool :)
[02:41] <Sanne> syntaxx: let's try to find out which driver module your card needs. Let's go here and search for your card: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/
[02:41] <Jucato> (kool is becoming a favorite word...)
[02:41] <SubNet> Thx guys ... cu
[02:41] <SubNet> seems so
[02:41] <h4_net-deeds> ?
[02:41] <Jucato> ehehehe
[02:41] <waspius>  i am trying to have a shortcut to change keyboard languages back and forth..the default is alt+cntrl+k but it only changes once..plus i would like to make it shift+alt but i cannot
[02:41] <h4_net-deeds> niguem
[02:41] <h4_net-deeds> ahhhh caralho
[02:41] <Sanne> syntaxx: oh, which card is it? Or do you need both?
[02:41] <h4_net-deeds> como faz pra entrar na brasnet
[02:42] <h4_net-deeds> ????
[02:42] <Jucato> !brazil
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brazil - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:42] <Jucato> hmm...
[02:42] <syntaxx> Sanne: my pctv capture card connects to my sound card so i think both
[02:43] <Sanne> syntaxx: what does the pctv capture card do?
[02:43] <fdoving> !br
[02:43] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[02:43] <syntaxx> Sanne: my soundcard module is VIA southbridge AC97 audio
[02:43] <asimon> waspius: Shift+Alt is probably not working because they are both modifier keys. You probably need at least one non-modifier key, just a wild guess.
[02:43] <syntaxx> Sanne: watching tv.. recording/capturing from a dvd player/vhs player
[02:44] <Jucato> you could probably try something like Shift+Alt+Space?
[02:44] <Sanne> syntaxx: ah, thanks. So let's focus first on the AC97 sound. Did you find the name of the kernel module?
[02:44] <waspius> asimon: yes but even if i leave it as it is..it will only change once..it does not change back..
[02:44] <Jucato> what's the IRC command to join multiple channels?
[02:45] <syntaxx> Sanne: i lsmod | grep snd and here's what i have snd_intel8x0 snd_ac97_codec
[02:45] <waspius> i can change from english to greek but not back..i have to click on the flag at the bottom
[02:45] <SubNet> Does anybody know what about the port of mozilla to a kpart? Is this work still in progress?
[02:45] <syntaxx> Sanne: and in debian when i run alsaconf it gives me snd_intel8x0
[02:46] <Jucato> SubNet: AFAIK, it's dead
[02:46] <Sanne> syntaxx: hmm, seems that snd_intel8x0 is correct, then
[02:46] <fdoving> Jucato: /join #channel1,#channel2,#channel3
[02:46] <Jucato> fdoving: no spaces in between?
[02:46] <SubNet> Jucato: sad - that would have been a good thing imho
[02:46] <Sanne> syntaxx: does it work in Debian?
[02:46] <fdoving> Jucato: commas.
[02:46] <syntaxx> Sanne: yes it works good
[02:47] <Jucato> fdoving: kool! I've been doing #channel, #channel....
[02:47] <fdoving> :)
[02:47] <syntaxx> Sanne: but now when i shift to ubuntu it has no voice only buzzzz sound
[02:47] <asimon> waspius: Which KDE version do you run? 3.5.4 from kubuntu.org?
[02:47] <Jucato> fdoving: thanks! I hate having to automatically join channels at startup, but I also don't want to join them one by one... :-D
[02:48] <Sanne> syntaxx: bummer, then I'm afraid I'm at the end of my knowledge. I believe there's a wiki page for sound troubleshooting, I'll get it for you, sec.
[02:48] <Jucato> SubNet: probably. but it gives KHTML the chance to grow on its own. And now that there is a project to unify it with WebKit, we might see some improvements soon
[02:48] <syntaxx> Sanne: ok
[02:48] <waspius> asimon: 3.5.2
[02:49] <Jucato> KHTML isn't all that bad. If it was, Apple wouldn't have chosen to use it as a base for Safari...
[02:49] <SubNet> What is WbKit?
[02:49] <SubNet> KHTML is quite good, but imho gecko still is better
[02:50] <Jucato> "WebKit is an open source web browser engine. WebKit is also the name of the Mac OS X system framework version of the engine that's used by Safari, Dashboard, Mail, and many other OS X applications." (http://webkit.opendarwin.org/)
[02:50] <Sanne> syntaxx: better still, I'll try to send you the bot's hints on sound...
[02:50] <SubNet> KHTML is continously improving - tht is nice to see, but it is slower and not that "compatible" as gecko
[02:50] <asimon> waspius: I run KDE 3.5.4 on Edgy and can switch back and forth with ALT+CTRL+k between different key maps. If this is important for you I would recommend to upgrade to KDE 3.5.4 (see http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php)
[02:50] <Sanne> !sound > syntaxx
[02:50] <Jucato> considering how much Gecko has been developed before it was in Firefox, I'm not surprised.
[02:50] <waspius> asimon: thanx
[02:51] <SubNet> Ahh - OK ...
[02:51] <syntaxx> Sanne: ok ill try this one
[02:51] <asimon> waspius: But only the kde version, don't upgrade to Edgy, keymap switching works but it's broken in many other ways. ;-)
[02:51] <SubNet> I#m shure KHTML will come closer to gecko's performance soon
[02:51] <Sanne> syntaxx: can you see the message from ubotu?
[02:51] <syntaxx> yes
[02:51] <Jucato> Remember that Gecko and Mozilla were under Netscape once. KHTML didn't have the luxury of having a company behind it...
[02:52] <Sanne> syntaxx: ah, then I got it correctly :). Good lick.
[02:52] <Sanne> luck
[02:52] <SubNet> That's right, Jucato.
[02:52] <waspius> asimon: which means that i should or should not apgrade?
[02:52] <waspius> upgrade
[02:52] <SubNet> KDE-user, Jucato?
[02:52] <Jucato> SubNet: huh?
[02:52] <SubNet> But KDE is as good as that company driven thing i guess ;)
[02:53] <asimon> waspius: kubuntu.org has KDE packages for Dapper. So you can have the newest shiniest KDE version with dapper.
[02:53] <SubNet> Jucato: sure - thougt I was in #ubuntu ...
[02:53] <Jucato> well, it's not really a company.
[02:53] <Jucato> ehehe
[02:54] <syntaxx> Sanne: now im getting shhhhhhhh
[02:54] <Sanne> syntaxx: hmmm, at least some change... heh
[02:55] <flaccid> i'm getting sorry try again for sudo but i'm in the admin group?
[02:55] <SubNet> Sure Mozilla is no longer company-driven but it profited a lot from that before and from the Win-User-Community - it is simply bigger
[02:55] <JRH3K5> !power management
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about power management - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <jollyroger> can someone help me get my atherosWiFi-card working?
[02:56] <Sanne> syntaxx: maybe it is an issue with alsa getting confused about your tv card? Just a wild guess, but that something about this problem on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:56] <Jucato> yeah, that's why projects like Mozilla (Firefox and Thunderbird) and OpenOffice.org will always be at an advantage over the other alternatives (Evolution, Kontact, KOffice) because of the companies behind them
[02:56] <fdoving> flaccid: did you type your password correct? no caps?
[02:57] <flaccid> correct
[02:57] <flaccid> su works, but not sudo
[02:57] <flaccid> and groups return admin
[02:57] <fdoving> how does /etc/sudoers look then?
[02:57] <syntaxx> Sanne: even i put in hardware sound is no audio input/output i still have the buzzzz
[02:57] <fdoving> if you can su you can take a look at it with 'visu'
[02:58] <Sanne> syntaxx: what do you get with: cat /proc/asound/cards
[02:58] <flaccid> Defaults        !lecture,tty_tickets,!fqd root    ALL=(ALL) ALL %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL
[02:58] <flaccid> line breaks removed
[02:59] <fdoving> jollyroger: i can point you to this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Madwifi
[02:59] <syntaxx> Sanne: 0 [ICH5    ] : ICH4 - Intel ICH5 Intel ICH5 with AD1888 at 0xfebff800, irq 201
[02:59] <fdoving> flaccid: ok, looking good. you did type your users password, right? not roots.
[02:59] <jollyroger> gracias!
[02:59] <Sanne> syntaxx: looks correct, yes?
[02:59] <flaccid> ah right
[02:59] <syntaxx> Sanne: yea
[03:00] <flaccid> i'm a dipshit
[03:01] <flaccid> thanks fdoving
[03:01] <syntaxx> Sanne: the only problem is the tvtime i can play movie in totem without problems in sound
[03:01] <Sanne> syntaxx: what I would do if I were in your situation (as I'm at the end of my software troubleshooting abilities), I would pull out the tv card temporarily and see if the sound works without it, to see if it's the tv card giving problems.
[03:01] <fdoving> no problem flaccid :)
[03:01] <Sanne> syntaxx: huh? oh!
[03:02] <Sanne> syntaxx: ok, misunderstanding, might be I didn't catch your initial posting
[03:02] <syntaxx> Sanne: yeah just the tv having problem
[03:02] <Sanne> syntaxx: sorry for pulling you through all this ...
[03:02] <syntaxx> Sanne: in debian it works fine even i play movie and watching tv at the same time
[03:02] <syntaxx> Sanne: thats ok
[03:02] <texjoachim> hi!
[03:03] <larson9999> is there something in kubuntu that cleans out temp on a regular basis?  i put stuff in there that i don't care about but in other distros stuff stays in there until i delete it.  but it seems like kubuntu deletes it
[03:03] <syntaxx> Sanne: i think its conflicting some driver modules
[03:03] <texjoachim> can anyone help me make my parallel zip drive known to ubuntu dapper?
[03:03] <Sanne> syntaxx: might be also because I don't have an idea what tvtime is ;)
[03:03] <syntaxx> Sanne: tvtime.sourceforge.net :D
[03:04] <Sanne> syntaxx: looking. So you have normal sound when listening to music?
[03:04] <syntaxx> Sanne: yes and playing movie in totem
[03:05] <Sanne> syntaxx: ah! So it all comes down to tvtime then. It should direct it's audio to your soundcard, shouldn't it?
[03:06] <syntaxx> Sanne: yes and not just the tvtime.. also the kdetv
[03:08] <fdoving> larson9999: yes,  /etc/init.d/bootclean clears /tmp at every boot.
[03:08] <Sanne> syntaxx: kdetv... another program that gives you bzzzzz?
[03:08] <syntaxx> Sanne: yes
[03:08] <larson9999> fdoving: can i turn that off?
[03:09] <waspius> anyone play counter strike?
[03:09] <Sanne> syntaxx: I assume you have read the help available at the tvtime site?
[03:09] <waspius> or warcraft?
[03:09] <Swatgoss> looool
[03:10] <syntaxx> Sanne: yes but it doesnt says when you have problems in sound bzzz
[03:10] <waspius> anyone know how i can make warcraft and counter strike work??
[03:10] <Swatgoss> waspius wine
[03:10] <Hawkwind> waspius: Join #WineHQ and ask the experts who run wine
[03:11] <waspius> ok thanx
[03:12] <Sanne> syntaxx: heh, yes, I assumed so :). Well, as much as I would like to help further, I'm running out of ideas, since I don't have any experience with video capture. Maybe ask the developers directly?
[03:12] <larson9999> D4rkly_: did you try those wow links i gave you yesterday?
[03:13] <nagyv> is it possible to install ubuntu on a running Linux? I have a 3 partitions: hda2, hda3, hda4. I have 1 ubuntu on hda2 and /home on hda4, and would like to get a frech ubuntu install on hda3 while still working on the hda2 ubuntu. Is it possible?
[03:13] <larson9999> waspius: darrkly(sp) said he got wow to work.  he gave me the links that he said worked for him.
[03:13] <syntaxx> Sanne: well maybe ill post in the bug reports or something they got no forum and in #tvtime no response
[03:13] <waspius> larson9999: can i get them 2:)
[03:14] <Sanne> syntaxx: might be a sensible road to follow, yes
[03:14] <larson9999> speaking of tvtime, this new pc has a tuner card.  think i'll try it out
[03:14] <larson9999> waspius: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50414
[03:15] <waspius> larson9999: thanx
[03:15] <fdoving> larson9999: you can delete /etc/rcS.d/S36mountall-bootclean.sh (that is a link to /etc/init.d/mountall-bootclean.sh).
[03:15] <larson9999> waspius: he said that although this one was for cedaga it worked for him with wine: http://transgaming.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3149&sid=ad258914a9a2c11baf1ab86a0b7abfbe
[03:15] <syntaxx> Sanne: but the problem is i think in ubuntu coz in debian it works just fine
[03:16] <waspius> larson9999: thanx i will check
[03:17] <larson9999> fdoving: between now and then i made a backup of bootclean and then made bootclean a dummy program that doesn't do anything.
[03:17] <Sanne> syntaxx: yes, it seems so. Still, maybe the tvtime devs can best help with that. Of course, you could also file a bug about this in launchpad for Ubuntu.
[03:18] <larson9999> waspius: let me know if it works for you too as i'm putting together a doc for my windows friends on linux.  wow would be nice for hte game section
[03:18] <waspius> larson9999: ok np
[03:19] <mike|shizzle> hi
[03:20] <mike|shizzle> anyone here?
[03:20] <mike|shizzle> need help installing my kubuntu
[03:21] <dhq> i have a portable usb drive i used it well onkubuntu for quite sometime i could delete transfer etc now i cant delete transfer nothing
[03:21] <fdoving> larson9999: ok,that will also do it. :)
[03:21] <kubunturocks> i install and then uninstalled clamav and now I am getting errors when I do an apt-get upgrade.  Can anyone help me?
[03:21] <larson9999> fdoving: i didn't know if something was depending on it to run :)
[03:22] <mike|shizzle> i tried to install kubuntu but when the screen tells me "initializing harddisks"
[03:22] <fdoving> larson9999: mountall-bootclean.sh depends on /etc/init.d/bootclean to run.
[03:22] <waspius> larson9999: do u know if windows cracks will work here?ie no cd crack etc?
[03:22] <mike|shizzle> it freezes
[03:23] <dhq> now it tell me my directory is read only what do i do
[03:23] <kubunturocks> mikeshizz - do you know if your hardware is supported ?  Do you have version 6.0.6.1?
[03:23] <fdoving> waspius: that is waaay off topic in here. cracks and similar that is.
[03:23] <waspius> fdoving: where should i ask?
[03:24] <fdoving> waspius: somewhere else i don't know, i don't do windows nor cracks.
[03:24] <kubunturocks> waspius - maybe #whywindowssux
[03:24] <waspius> ok
[03:24] <larson9999> waspius: i do not.
[03:24] <waspius> thanx
[03:24] <kubunturocks> lol
[03:24] <waspius> and sorry
[03:24] <flaccid> :p
[03:25] <_thumper_> fdoving: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1393584#post1393584
[03:25] <kubunturocks> i install and then uninstalled clamav and now I am getting errors when I do an apt-get upgrade.  Can anyone help me?
[03:26] <fdoving> kubunturocks: please paste the error message you get to http://pastebin.ca/ and post the link here.
[03:26] <fdoving> _thumper_: looking.
[03:26] <_thumper_> fdoving, thanks
[03:26] <larson9999> fdoving: i'll leave it this way and see if it works ok.
[03:26] <kubunturocks> fdoving - http://pastebin.ca/137539
[03:27] <fdoving> _thumper_: ah.. it works after the pings?
[03:27] <kubunturocks> fdoving I tried to dpkg purge but still no dice
[03:27] <mike|shizzle> it's an old computer and its the newest version
[03:27] <_thumper_> fdoving, for a short while
[03:27] <fdoving> _thumper_: sounds to me like a broken firewall/router.
[03:28] <mike|shizzle> just want this computer for internet/samba server
[03:28] <_thumper_> fdoving, frustrating though that everything else works, firefox, konversation, skype, WinXP
[03:29] <_thumper_> fdoving, more likely to be a quirk somewhere
[03:29] <fdoving> _thumper_: indeed. very frustrating. did you try another mirror? like se.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[03:29] <_thumper_> fdoving, yes, initially they were all uk.
[03:29] <kubunturocks> anyone know how to resolve this http://pastebin.ca/137539 error?
[03:29] <_thumper_> fdoving, firefox also used to hurl until I turned off ipv6 in about:config
[03:29] <fdoving> kubunturocks: try 'sudo mkdir -p /var/run/clamav;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[03:30] <fdoving> _thumper_: ok..
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> kubunturocks, i don't
[03:31] <kubunturocks> fdoving - still the same err =(
[03:32] <kubunturocks> fdoving - doesnt apt have MAGIC COW powers. lol =)
[03:32] <Admiral_Chicago> mine does
[03:32] <asimon> kubunturocks: You don't need/want clamav anymore? Just remove clamav-base and clamav-freshclam too.
[03:33] <Admiral_Chicago> asimon, did you read the paste error
[03:33] <pierreth> abattoir: hello
[03:33] <fdoving> kubunturocks: sure it does. did you delete anything manually before using apt-get?
[03:33] <Admiral_Chicago> actully, i didnt
[03:33] <asimon> Admiral_Chicago: Yes, it tries to setup packages which are probably not needed anymore.
[03:33] <Admiral_Chicago> asimon, i take the point back...
[03:34] <pierreth> pierreth:testing
[03:34] <pierreth> is it possible to see the notification area if the kicker is hidden?
[03:35] <kubunturocks> asimon - thanks man.  I didnt see those other packages but I got em outta there in aptitude. =)
[03:35] <fdoving> kubunturocks: ok, this will do it: open konsole, get a root shell with 'sudo -s', then run 'echo "exit 0" > /var/lib/dpkg/info/clamav-base.postinst;dpkg --configure -a'
[03:35] <kubunturocks> fdoving - Its all good now
[03:36] <fdoving> ok, great :)
[03:36] <kubunturocks> thanks to u both. =)  Have a great friday
[03:37] <kubunturocks> Anyone really good with Amarok?
[03:37] <waspius> what does multi-download mean?in valknut
[03:37] <asimon> kubunturocks: what's the problem with amarok?
[03:38] <pierreth> kubunturocks: i am not good with it
[03:38] <kubunturocks> asimon - whenever I open any media file it just says - playlist ended and plays NOTHING
[03:38] <pierreth> kubunturocks: it does not play my iTunes music :-(
[03:38] <kubunturocks> VLC and all others works
[03:39] <kubunturocks> pirreth - it dont work at all for me =(
[03:39] <asimon> kubunturocks: Probably you don't have mp3 support installed. Install libxine-extracodecs
[03:39] <asimon> !restricted
[03:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:39] <pierreth> kubunturocks: well, i was not able to play a sound from it wet
[03:39] <kubunturocks> asimon - I have that installed and it works in VLC
[03:39] <kubunturocks> Video Lan Client
[03:40] <pierreth> ubotu: but i love aac
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about but i love aac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <asimon> kubunturocks: what format are those media files in?
[03:40] <abattoir> hello pierreth :)
[03:40] <pierreth> abattoir: hello!
[03:40] <kubunturocks> aimon - mp3 and ogg
[03:40] <pierreth> abattoir: i am back in kubuntu!
[03:41] <kubunturocks> as I said all other media players work just fine - its just Amarok
[03:41] <asimon> kubunturocks: They should be played with out problems. Did you check that your amarok is configured to use the Xine Engine?
[03:41] <Swatgoss> "con d'or" in french translated in english its "goldendumb" ...
[03:42] <kubunturocks> asimon - yes its set to Xine with output plugin to autodetect
[03:42] <kubunturocks> aimon - it always just says playlist finished and goes to the end of the file.  Nada =(
[03:43] <Swatgoss> u have all codecs ?
[03:43] <Swatgoss> and does it play some mp3 at least ?
[03:43] <kubunturocks> swatgos - nope. but all other players can without any issue
[03:44] <Swatgoss> on my sys amarok don't play all mp3, but before i install codecs it was doing the same thing
[03:44] <Swatgoss> and XMMS work on 100% files
[03:44] <asimon> kubunturocks: And you really have libxine-extracodecs installed (other players may not use the libxine)? Hmm ... I am sorry, in that case I don't know what could be wrong.
[03:46] <Swatgoss> some1 experience FTP transfer stops during transfer ? (with or without ipv6)
[03:47] <Swatgoss> especially on user to user transferts (Kopete and aMSN ...)
[03:48] <redblades> Hi, I just installed kubuntu-desktop today, and for somereason konsole isn't working, and gave this error.
[03:48] <redblades> http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e95/muthamunky/love.jpg
[03:48] <redblades> NO!!!!
[03:48] <redblades> SORRY
[03:48] <Swatgoss> yippi for Klipper :p
[03:48] <Jucato> ...
[03:49] <Jucato> lol
[03:49] <redblades> Konsole is unable to open a PTY (pseudo teletype). It is likely that this is due to an incorrect configuration of the PTY devices. Konsole needs to have read/write access to the PTY devices.
[03:49] <redblades> Ah that's it.
[03:49] <Admiral_Chicago> thats awful
[03:49] <kubunturocks> asimon - there is no package by that name - libxine-extracodecs
[03:49] <Jucato> don't yopu just love it when Klipper uses the wrong content? :-D
[03:49] <redblades> Yeah, it's lovely.
[03:49] <redblades> Admiral_Chicago: sorry about that..
[03:50] <asimon> kubunturocks: In that case you probably haven't the multiverse repository enabled, the package is in that repo.
[03:50] <Admiral_Chicago> i lol'ed (literally) so its all good
[03:50] <Swatgoss> would prefer a www.minou.com page ... (if i rememberthe URL right)
[03:51] <redblades> So, any ideas why konsole isn't working???
[03:51] <asimon> kubunturocks: Do you know how to add this repo to your sources.list?
[03:52] <kubunturocks> asimon - yes i just don't know which one it is - I do see this one --->
[03:52] <kubunturocks> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[03:52] <kubunturocks> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[03:53] <asimon> redblades: I remember a bug report from a XFCE user who had the same problem with starting konsole. But no fix for it so far.
[03:53] <Jucato> kubunturocks: not those...
[03:53] <kubunturocks> Which ones then?
[03:53] <Jucato> kubunturocks: look for the line with "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe" and add the word "multiverse" at the end
[03:54] <Jucato> so that it will be "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse"
[03:54] <asimon> kubunturocks: and make sure the line jucato pointed out doesn't start with an '#' ;-)
[03:54] <pierreth> abattoir: ?
[03:54] <Jucato> ^_^
[03:54] <redblades> asimon: that.... "5U><0R5"
[03:55] <asimon> redblades: Hu?
[03:55] <Jucato> I think he means "that sucks"
[03:55] <pierreth> thank you for the links about media
[03:55] <asimon> oh, I understand. hehe
[03:56] <kubunturocks> thanks jucato & asimon !!!
[03:56] <Jucato> ^_^
[03:56] <asimon> kubunturocks: After you added it, apt-get update, then you can install this libxine-extracodecs. Then restart amarok and it should work.
[03:56] <Swatgoss> Suxors ?
[03:57] <Jucato> suxx0rz = l33t (leet, elite) speak for "sucks"
[03:57] <kubunturocks> asmov - got it.  =)  Amarok now WORKS!  bRAVO guys!
[03:57] <Swatgoss> 5UC|<5
[03:57] <Jucato> lol
[03:57] <Swatgoss> kubunturocks what do u installed ?
[03:57] <Swatgoss> *did*
[03:57] <Jucato> libxine-extracodecs
[03:58] <Swatgoss> just this one ?
[03:58] <kubunturocks> yes
[03:58] <kubunturocks> apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[03:58] <Jucato> yeah. I'm glad that it covers almost all multimedia codecs
[03:58] <Swatgoss> -_- don't work on all my mp3 ...
[03:58] <dhq> what is the default root password for kubuntu
[03:58] <kubunturocks> dhq you need to use sudo
[03:58] <Jucato> dhq: nothing. root is disabled. your password is the administrator's password
[03:58] <Jucato> !sudo
[03:58] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:59] <asimon> kubunturocks: There is work underway to make this easier for people. Instead of just going to the end of the playlist, amarok will open a dialog, explaining what's wong/missing and give you the option to install the missing package. The current behaviour is really stupid.
[03:59] <redblades> Jucato: It wasn't even worth the time it took me to type that... hehe
[03:59] <dhq> Jucato: sudo user
[03:59] <Jucato> lol
[03:59] <dhq> :p
[03:59] <kubunturocks> asimon - that would be awsome.  the larger issue is the stupid patent issues that keep these things from being included within free and open source software
[03:59] <Jucato> asimon: it should. usability-wise, it should
[04:00] <asimon> kubunturocks: Yes, that's of course the root of the whole issue.
[04:01] <Jucato> I really look forward to the day when OGG really catches up with MP3 in terms of popularity. Quality-wise, it's almost there
[04:01] <kubunturocks> asimon - i am using only open formats in everthing I do.  Im so sick of how proprietary crap is getting in the way of Linux
[04:01] <asimon> Jucato: My ears can't tell the difference anyway. ;-)
[04:01] <asimon> kubunturocks: in everything but music. ;-)
[04:02] <Jucato> mine too. I can barely tell the difference between MP3, OGG, and WMA, specially if their qualities are almost the same
[04:02] <Jucato> I prefer to use OGG, resorting only to MP3 when necessary...
[04:03] <Swatgoss> Jucato try AAC+v2
[04:03] <Admiral_Chicago> I would use OGG but almost all my music is mp3
[04:03] <kubunturocks> asimon - yeah in general media. Ms/Real/Apple still dominates
[04:03] <Admiral_Chicago> and some AAC
[04:03] <Swatgoss> 64Kpbs = 128Kbps mp3
[04:03] <exceswater> hi people
[04:03] <Jucato> I would probably convert my MP3 files into OGG one of these days, regardless of quality loss
[04:03] <Admiral_Chicago> exceswater, hey
[04:03] <asimon> kubunturocks: Yes, where the money is.
[04:03] <exceswater> who can help me to install something
[04:03] <Admiral_Chicago> exceswater, i'll try
[04:03] <exceswater> it seems like i have a problem ...
[04:03] <exceswater> 10x
[04:03] <exceswater> sometimes
[04:03] <Jucato> btw, Real would probably be making it easier to play Windows Media in the near future, according to the news from LinuxWorld...
[04:04] <kubunturocks> asimov - they all suk - I am opting out =)
[04:04] <exceswater> if i take some sources...
[04:04] <exceswater> i unzip them
[04:04] <exceswater> and when i try : make
[04:04] <exceswater> make install
[04:04] <exceswater> nothing happens
[04:04] <exceswater> why ?
[04:04] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo?
[04:04] <exceswater> i am noob
[04:04] <Hawkwind> exceswater: What are you trying to compile ?
[04:04] <Admiral_Chicago> try make / sudo make install
[04:04] <exceswater> a game
[04:04] <Jucato> err.. Hawkwind beat me to the question
[04:04] <Hawkwind> exceswater: It's possible what you need to compile is already in a deb file
[04:04] <kubunturocks> jucato - real is a pile of stinking dung
[04:04] <Hawkwind> exceswater: Be specific...what game ?
[04:05] <Jucato> kubunturocks: hehehe! I'm actually surprised it has made it this far. :-D
[04:05] <kubunturocks> jucato - they might as well call it spyware/adware player
[04:05] <exceswater> pingui
[04:05] <exceswater> a lemmings clone
[04:05] <exceswater> sorry
[04:05] <exceswater> PINGUS
[04:05] <intelikey> exceswater because this is a binary distro not a source distro   first learn to use the package manager to install binarry packages then you can install the build essential package
[04:05] <kubunturocks> jucato - yea me too
[04:05] <Hawkwind> exceswater: sudo apt-get install pingus
[04:06] <Hawkwind> exceswater: Use the package manager that the distro comes with.  No need to compile most things that are included in the distros repos
[04:06] <Admiral_Chicago> exceswater, open up a terminal and type sudo apt-get install pingus
[04:06] <Admiral_Chicago> as Hawkwind suggested
[04:06] <exceswater> 10x
[04:06] <Hawkwind> !info pingus
[04:06] <ubotu> pingus: Free Lemmings(TM) clone. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-8.3 (dapper), package size 656 kB, installed size 1664 kB
[04:06] <Jucato> yep. you can install it straight from Adept
[04:06] <exceswater> it's working
[04:07] <exceswater> and you know how to make the same with CLanbomber
[04:07] <Jucato> actually Real Media isn't that bad, I think. maybe the player could just do away with some of the ads...
[04:07] <exceswater>  ??
[04:07] <Hawkwind> exceswater: apt-cache search pingus   You can search for apps by replacing 'pingus' with what you want to find
[04:07] <exceswater> ok
[04:07] <exceswater> 10x
[04:07] <Jucato> exceswater: yep
[04:07] <Hawkwind> exceswater: sudo apt-get install clanbomber ?
[04:07] <Jucato> !info clanbomber
[04:07] <ubotu> clanbomber: Bomberman like game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.05cdbs-3 (dapper), package size 127 kB, installed size 376 kB
[04:07] <exceswater> and the last thing
[04:07] <Jucato> exceswater: you can search for those game titles in Adept.
[04:07] <kubunturocks> jucato - i love free/open applications more than anything =).
[04:07] <exceswater> sometimes... when i install games from Adept
[04:08] <exceswater> i cannot find them in my folders or  in my menus ?
[04:08] <exceswater> why ?
[04:08] <Jucato> an annoying Kubuntu bug...
[04:08] <Hawkwind> exceswater: Probably because your menus haven't updated when you check
[04:08] <exceswater> i have to say that i am a new user to kubuntu...
[04:08] <Jucato> the K Menu isn't updated immediately
[04:08] <Swatgoss> exceswater u have a ADD/REMOVE PROGRAMS in Kmenu ?
[04:08] <exceswater> even after restart ?
[04:08] <exceswater> yes
[04:08] <Swatgoss> exceswater u have some games in here :p
[04:08] <exceswater> yes Swatgoss
[04:08] <Hawkwind> exceswater: You can run kmenuedit, click on Save then the menus should show the new stuff
[04:08] <kubunturocks> excesswater - we are all nice here so dont worry =)
[04:09] <reagleBRKLN> is there a dapper src for kplayer? can't find it anywhere anymore
[04:09] <Jucato> exceswater: it will be added after you log out and back in again. or type this in Konsole (command line): "kbuildsycoca --incremental"
[04:09] <waspius> i tried to upgrade kde to kde3.5.4 but after downloading all of the files it still shows i am 3.5.2
[04:09] <Jucato> kubunturocks: yeah, but I was talking about the media format. :-D
[04:09] <Hawkwind> waspius: Have you restarted KDE ?
[04:09] <waylandbill> waspius, were any packages held back?
[04:09] <exceswater> ok
[04:09] <exceswater> 10x guys
[04:09] <waspius> i restarted my pc
[04:09] <exceswater> you've been a great help
[04:10] <exceswater> bye
[04:10] <waspius> waylandbill: no i dont think so
[04:10] <exceswater> and have a nice weekend :D
[04:10] <Hawkwind> waspius: dpkg -l kdeabse
[04:10] <Hawkwind> waspius: What does that tell you for the version number ?
[04:10] <intelikey> anyone here ever use linux as a telephone answering service ?    how hard is the setup ?   what apps ?
[04:10] <Jucato> hm.. "dpkg -l kdebase"
[04:10] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Heh, thanks
[04:10] <fdoving> _thumper_: do you have a d-link router?
[04:10] <Jucato> ^_^
[04:11] <waylandbill> waspius, for some reason, when I went to 3.5.4 it held back stuff until I did a dist-upgrade for some unknown reason.
[04:11] <Jucato> yeah, you probably should dist-upgrade... though I'm not sure if that's the proper way to do it...
[04:11] <Un-punkt-tot> hi there
[04:12] <waspius> Hawkwind: it says need an action option
[04:12] <Un-punkt-tot> I have some question about the dapper drake live cd: how long does it take to start cups?
[04:12] <Swatgoss> 3 days
[04:12] <Un-punkt-tot> sorry: cupsd
[04:13] <intelikey> 3days 2hours  then
[04:13] <Jucato> waspius: btw, how are you checking the KDE version?
[04:13] <waspius> Jucato: from help
[04:13] <Jucato> ok
[04:13] <Jucato> hm..
[04:13] <Un-punkt-tot> you are kidding or you are not talking to me, are you?
[04:13] <Hawkwind> waspius: kde-config --version | grep KDE
[04:14] <waspius> Hawkwind: 3.5.2
[04:14] <Jucato> hmm...
[04:14] <Hawkwind> waspius: Then it seems packages got held back and not everything got updated
[04:14] <intelikey> Un-punkt-tot yes kidding... >:)    really only a few seconds  unless there is a network error that has to time out.
[04:14] <_thumper_> fdoving: netgear dg632
[04:14] <Hawkwind> waspius: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:14] <Jucato> waspius: have you tried "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"??
[04:15] <Jucato> grr! Hawkwind beat me to it again
[04:15] <Jucato> :-p
[04:15] <waspius> Jucato: no cause they told me not to upgrade distro cause it has some proble
[04:15] <waspius> ms
[04:15] <Jucato> ah!! I remember why a normal upgrade won't work!
[04:15] <Un-punkt-tot> intelikey, I try to boot from the live cd, and it always stops at cupsd. does it need cupsd to install properly, or can I somehow switch that off?
[04:16] <Hawkwind> waspius: Who said that ?
[04:16] <waspius> someone in ubuntu
[04:16] <waspius> or kde
[04:16] <Jucato> kdelibs-bin is supposed to be replaced/superceded by kdelib4c2 in KDE 3.5.4, that's why it has to be removed. But a plain upgrade doesn't remove packages, it only upgrades installed packages, right?
[04:16] <intelikey> Un-punkt-tot the live cd is krap imo.  if possable dl and install from the alternate cd
[04:16] <Jucato> btw, I personally can't recommend upgrading to KDE 3.5.4, unless you have an absolute need to..
[04:17] <Hawkwind> waspius: Have you run sudo apt-get install -f   ?
[04:17] <waspius> Hawkwins but it is all fined: ye
[04:17] <Un-punkt-tot> great :(
[04:17] <fdoving> _thumper_: did you check for firmware updates for it?
[04:17] <intelikey> Un-punkt-tot yeah.  i was very disappointed with shipit
[04:17] <_thumper_> fdoving: nope, not looked at that - it's not my router (work one)
[04:18] <Un-punkt-tot> intelikey, is there some online doc how to install from the alternate cd like for gentoo?
[04:18] <Hawkwind> waspius: Why are you wanting to upgrade to 3.5.4 anyways ?
[04:18] <waspius> Hawkwind: i basically wantes to upgrade cause i want my keyboard language to change back and forth with the shortcut but it does not
[04:18] <Hawkwind> waspius: It still has many issues.  You should stick with 3.5.3
[04:18] <Jucato> aaah
[04:18] <fdoving> _thumper_: after googling for a while i can see most of the people with the same problem fixes it by either forcing another DNS (you can use ipaddress. 4.2.2.1), or doing a firmware upgrade on the router.
[04:18] <Hawkwind> waspius: You won't enjoy 3.5.4 with all the problems it has
[04:18] <Jucato> waspius: try KDE 3.5.3. it might have fixed that
[04:18] <waspius> Hawkwind: i have 3.5.2
[04:19] <_thumper_> fdoving: thanks, I'll follow that up
[04:19] <intelikey> Un-punkt-tot there is a short help screen [f1]  at the boot prompt that can help you get started yeah
[04:19] <Hawkwind> waspius: I understand that.  Update to 3.5.3
[04:19] <waspius> Jucato: how do i go to 3.5.3?
[04:19] <Jucato> same way you could get 3.5.4, through a special repository
[04:19] <Hawkwind> waspius: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353/ dapper main
[04:19] <waspius> Hawkwind: thanx
[04:19] <Jucato> ^_^
[04:19] <Jucato> wasn't fast enough...
[04:20] <Timmmm> Why not use 3.5.4?
[04:20] <Un-punkt-tot> great... I'll be dead tomorrow :(
[04:20] <waspius> just insert that in repos right?
[04:20] <Hawkwind> Timmmm: It's got lots of issues
[04:20] <Hawkwind> waspius: Add it to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:20] <waspius> ok
[04:20] <Hawkwind> waspius: Then do:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:20] <Jucato> waspius: and remove the line for KDE 3.5.4
[04:20] <isenburk> hey everyone, im still a newbie, and i was wondering if there was any way to get the user's IP ADDRESS on KOPETE ?
[04:20] <waspius> ok done..thanx
[04:20] <Hawkwind> waspius: Or remove the line for kde-latest
[04:21] <Jucato> there's another KDE 3.5.4 bug in System Settings that makes it crash
[04:21] <intelikey> Un-punkt-tot also there "may" be a way to force no cupsys loading on the live cd  but even then  the installer is still krap warmed over.
[04:21] <Jucato> this one I'm sure was reported already in Launchpad and bugs.kde.org
[04:22] <Timmmm> System Settings in general is a bit rubbish (Except for the search thing - that is really cool). It doesn't even show all the kcm modules.
[04:22] <Un-punkt-tot> ok, i have managed to install gentoo, so why shouldn't I manage kubuntu, thanks a lot intelikey
[04:22] <isenburk> hey everyone, im still a newbie, and i was wondering if there was any way to get the user's IP ADDRESS on KOPETE ?
[04:23] <fdoving> isenburk: please don't repeat your question every 2 minutes. We did see you the first time.
[04:23] <Buldden> hi
[04:24] <waylandbill> isenburk: the app talks to a central server, not another user directly, so if the server doesn't provide this info, then you don't necessarily have access to it without a direct connection.
[04:25] <magdi> Hello! I would have 2 w
[04:25] <Hawkwind> isenburk: /dns <nick>   If the user doesn't have a user cloak furnished by Freenode, then you will get their IP#
[04:25] <intelikey> error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[04:26] <magdi> Hello! I would have 2 questions. 1. what is the md5 sum of the kubuntu alternative iso? 2. (I forget it)
[04:26] <intelikey> report from 'startx'
[04:26] <Hawkwind> magdi: Get it from the mirror you downloaded the ISO from
[04:26] <Jucato> magdi: you have to check it from the page where you downloaded it.
[04:26] <Jucato> grr!! Hawkwind types fast...
[04:26] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Type faster :P
[04:26] <JohnFlux> Jucato: uh
[04:26] <magdi> Jucato: Hawkwind: I can't find it there
[04:26] <JohnFlux> Jucato: what's the point of checking the md5sum from the page you download it from
[04:26] <Hawkwind> magdi: What mirror did you download it from ?
[04:27] <Jucato> JohnFlux: because it will tell you whether your download was corrupted or not
[04:27] <Hawkwind> JohnFlux: He wants to verify the md5sum is correct
[04:27] <magdi> Oh, my 2nd question. How could I setup my touchpad mouse to use its right side as a scroller?
[04:27] <intelikey> Jucato or set Hawkwind on ignore then you wont know he posted first.  :)
[04:27] <magdi> Europe (the 1st)
[04:27] <Jucato> intelikey: lol!
[04:27] <JohnFlux> Hawkwind: surely the point would for security
[04:27] <Hawkwind> intelikey: LOL
[04:27] <Hawkwind> JohnFlux: Ummm no
[04:27] <Jucato> ha! beat you to that one Hawkwind
[04:27] <magdi> Hawkwind: using torrent
[04:27] <JohnFlux> Hawkwind: tcp/ip is pretty decent errorchecking wise hmm
[04:27] <Hawkwind> magdi: Then it's included in the download more than likely
[04:27] <JohnFlux> Hawkwind: okay it will still allow certain errors, but seems unlikely
[04:28] <Hawkwind> JohnFlux: Doesn't mean it can't still error.  You should 'always' md5sum any downloaded ISO file
[04:28] <Jucato> Hawkwind: nope. the md5sums aren't included in the torrent
[04:28] <soulrider> hi everyone
[04:28] <Jucato> hi soulrider
[04:28] <JohnFlux> Hawkwind: why?
[04:28] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Strange.  They should be included
[04:28] <magdi> Hawkwind: I thought that it will be, but it isn't! And every time when I booted the system from the CD, and checked it, it wrote me that it is corrupted.
[04:28] <JohnFlux> Hawkwind: oh misread the first part sorry
[04:28] <Hawkwind> JohnFlux: To verify integrity so you don't waste your time burning it to a CD to find out the download was bad
[04:28] <Jucato> dunno why they aren't, if they're supposed to be
[04:28] <intelikey> hmmm i suppose that error was because /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy does not exist....    ;/
[04:29] <Hawkwind> magdi: Look at any mirror with the ISO images then
[04:29] <magdi> Hawkwind: slooooooooooow :)
[04:29] <Hawkwind> magdi: Slow what ?
[04:29] <magdi> Hawkwind: to download the iso images
[04:29] <Jucato> magdi: the md5sums are in the MD5SUM file that at the top  of the list of any mirror/download page
[04:30] <Hawkwind> magdi: You don't need to download the ISO again.  Just look at a mirror and get the md5sum.asc file
[04:30] <magdi> Jucato: I use this page, where is the md5? http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.06/
[04:30] <waylandbill> yes TCP has some error correction, but certainly there are more factors than just the transfer, such as hardware issues causing a corruption or damaged media.
[04:30] <magdi> oh, I see it, thx%
[04:30] <intelikey> not even a /etc/X11/xserver dir    is that normal ?
[04:30] <magdi> !
[04:30] <Jucato> err...
[04:30] <Jucato>  @_@
[04:31] <Jucato> Hawkwind:  there are no .asc files
[04:31] <syntaxx> how can i put a my computer icon on my desktop?
[04:31] <Jucato> only MD5SUM
[04:31] <magdi> Hmmm, it's strange, it gave me the same sum, although at the before-install-check it gave me an error
[04:31] <Jucato> magdi: the it could probably have been a bad burn
[04:31] <magdi> syntaxx: what do you mean by "My Computer"?
[04:31] <intelikey> well made the dir and touched the security file   that stopped the error message.
[04:32] <syntaxx> magdi: that shows my devices like cd rom floopy drive hard disk
[04:32] <syntaxx> magdi: just like windows my computer
[04:32] <magdi> something like media:/ in konqueror?
[04:32] <syntaxx> magdi: yes
[04:33] <JohnFlux> syntaxx: we have system:/   which is closer
[04:33] <syntaxx> ok
[04:33] <Jucato> syntaxx: right-click on the destkop Create New > Link to URL
[04:33] <jott> intelikey: mine is a link to
[04:33] <jott> /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[04:33] <jott> ....and part of xserver-xgl
[04:33] <Jucato> in the the Enter link to location part, enter system:/ or media:/ (your choice)
[04:33] <pescobar> hello
[04:34] <Jucato> then give it a name like My Computer (yech...)
[04:34] <Jucato> ^_^
[04:34] <intelikey> what generates this ERROR message when starting k3b "can't talk to klauncher!" ?
[04:34] <waylandbill> syntaxx: keep in mind that many automount devices will appear on the desktop when they mount, unless told not to.
[04:34] <syntaxx> waylandbill: when i put media:// in konqueror i cant find my cd rom in it
[04:35] <Jucato> syntaxx: it won't show up unless there's a CD in it
[04:35] <syntaxx> Jucato: theres a cd in it
[04:35] <waylandbill> syntaxx: is it mounted?
[04:35] <intelikey> jott yeah thanks.   i'm trying to get k3b to burn cd's     actually not kde but xfce4  that shouldn't matter.
[04:36] <Jucato> [Commercial]  Interesting video about Ubuntu, XGL, and Touchscreens: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx9FgLr9oTk
[04:36] <intelikey> error i'm getting is "can't talk to klauncher!"
[04:36] <syntaxx> waylandbill: how can i mount it if theres no media cd rom icon in there?
[04:37] <Jucato> you could check if it's mounted/read properly by going to /media/<mount point for CD-ROM>
[04:37] <waylandbill> syntaxx: if it's in the /etc/fstab and set to auto mount, it should just mount.
[04:37] <Jucato> in my case it's /media/cdrom0 or /media/cdrom1
[04:37] <syntaxx> waylandbill: ok
[04:37] <syntaxx> thanks
[04:39] <intelikey> ok so i'll manually start klauncher  then start k3b   and it says.....
[04:40] <intelikey> hmmm same error.    "can't talk to klauncher!"
[04:41] <swatgoss> try shouting :p
[04:41] <Jucato>  @_@
[04:41] <syntaxx> waylandbill: now its mounted how can i make it to run? i tried to cd /cdrom but it doesnt have any file in it
[04:42] <waylandbill> syntaxx: what do you mean make it run? like open to show the files?
[04:42] <jott> intelikey: have you checked you have access to /tmp/.ICE-unix ?
[04:42] <syntaxx> waylandbill: im trying to install the file using wine
[04:42] <intelikey> jott i hope root has access...
[04:43] <syntaxx> waylandbill: so wine /cdrom/file.exe?
[04:43] <Jucato> syntaxx: actually it's "wine <.exe file>
[04:43] <waylandbill> syntaxx: you need to give the exe as an argument to wine
[04:43] <Jucato> (no quotes)
[04:43] <waylandbill> syntaxx: right, wine [mount point] /file.exe
[04:43] <syntaxx> Jucato: but how can i run .exe file if theres not .exe in /cdrom?
[04:43] <intelikey> that's another thing.  i can't seem to get xdm to allow user login with null passwd....
[04:44] <Jucato> syntaxx: err... I thought you were trying to install something from the CD ROM?
[04:44] <syntaxx> Jucato: yes
[04:44] <waylandbill> intelikey: i thought null password disables login
[04:44] <Jucato> then there should be an .exe file there. otherwise, how will it run, even in Windows?
[04:44] <syntaxx> but when i try to wine /dev/hdc/Install.exe wont work cannot find the file
[04:44] <syntaxx> hdc is my cdrom
[04:45] <Jucato> syntaxx: no you don't go to /dev directly
[04:45] <swatgoss> can a routeur "bug" some specific ports randomly ?, my connection is tilting, 1sec it work (slowly but work) and the sec after it don't ...
[04:45] <Jucato> you use the mount points
[04:45] <syntaxx> Jucato: whats the mount points then? hdc?
[04:45] <pierreth> why cannot select a package in adept?
[04:45] <syntaxx> Jucato: or /cdrom?
[04:45] <intelikey> syntaxx   mount   should show a list of what's mounted.    sudo mount /dev/hd? /cdrom    where ? is the proper ide device  a,b,c,d  should mount an ide cdrom device
[04:45] <Jucato> syntaxx: check your fstab for that info
[04:45] <waylandbill> syntaxx: [mount point]  refers to the actual mounted point. :-D
[04:45] <Jucato> syntaxx: it will have something like "/dev/hdc /media/<whatever is here>
[04:46] <intelikey> waylandbill locked password disables login.
[04:46] <syntaxx> ok thanks i got it
[04:47] <intelikey> waylandbill null password is passwordless login.  you only type the name, it doesn't prompt for a password because everything matches.
[04:47] <Jucato> it will probably be something like /media/cdrom0 or /media/cdrom1 (the /media/cdrom is just a link)
[04:47] <swatgoss> some1 know a network help channel ?
[04:47] <syntaxx> Jucato: well it wont install since it was a 4 cd it needs to be mounted also
[04:47] <waylandbill> intelikey: ick. I don't like the thought of that!
[04:47] <swatgoss> (not specific to linux or win)
[04:47] <Jucato> syntaxx: it can still install even if it's a multiple CD installer
[04:47] <intelikey> waylandbill on your system i wouldn't either.
[04:48] <syntaxx> :D
[04:48] <waylandbill> intelikey: convenience login is enough itself. :-)
[04:49] <waspius> how can i make irc join automaticly 4 channels?
[04:49] <intelikey> convenience ?
[04:49] <pierreth> i am unable to install audacity
[04:49] <intelikey> as in automated
[04:49] <intelikey> pierreth sudo apt-get install audacity   ?
[04:49] <JRH3K5> Is there a good piece of software that would allow my Kubuntu machine to hibernate and wake on LAN?
[04:49] <Hawkwind> waspius: Depends on the IRC client
[04:49] <waylandbill> intelikey: yeah, where you skip kdm and go right to the splash on the selected user.
[04:50] <waspius> Hawkwind: kirc
[04:50] <pierreth> intelikey: no, the package is not there, i am in adept
[04:50] <intelikey> !repos > pierreth
[04:50] <Hawkwind> pierreth: From a terminal type: sudo apt-get install audacity
[04:50] <Hawkwind> !info audacity
[04:50] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1842 kB, installed size 5460 kB
[04:51] <Hawkwind> waspius: Can't help ya there.  I only use Xchat
[04:51] <waspius> Hawkwind: is that better?
[04:51] <pierreth> Hawkwind: i does not work, no package audacity
[04:51] <waspius> pierreth: try through afept
[04:51] <Hawkwind> pierreth: So enable all the repos, like universe
[04:52] <waspius> pierreth: sorry adept
[04:52] <Hawkwind> waspius: He is trying through adept
[04:52] <waspius> oh ok
[04:52] <intelikey> !repos > intelikey
[04:52] <Hawkwind> waspius: It's better for me as I like it.  You should try it yourself and see how *you* like it
[04:52] <waspius> Hawkwind: ok thanc
[04:52] <waspius> x
[04:52] <intelikey> i could sware i sent that message   ^^^^^
[04:52] <pierreth> waspius: i have it in adept, but when i check the checkbox, it get again unselected
[04:52] <Hawkwind> intelikey: You did
[04:53] <Hawkwind> pierreth: Read what the bot sent you in pm about enabling all the repos
[04:53] <pierreth> Hawkwind: ok, I will do that, thank you
[04:53] <waylandbill> waspius: the universal answer to "better" or "best" is if it does what you need it to do.
[04:53] <waspius> Hawkwind: but as he can see it does that not mean that his repos are enabled?
[04:54] <waspius> waylandbill: coorect:)
[04:54] <intelikey> the factoid on repos is very un-informative btw
[04:55] <intelikey> most of the factoids are.  ;/
[04:55] <Hawkwind> intelikey: I agree.  The ops should put someone in charge of making them better and more user friendly
[04:56] <intelikey> Hawkwind they used to be and every improvement was met with a reverting to less usefulness and even deletion
[04:56] <intelikey> bot is very near useless nowadays
[04:58] <ballchalk> helllloooo
[04:58] <Hawkwind> Maybe we could talk Seveas or someone like Hobbsee to convince him of letting us redo the db in the bot to make it better for all of us
[04:58] <JohnFlux> the debian bot lets anyone add factoids
[04:59] <intelikey> but it's all in the name of progress    make it more windowish/WindowUserFriendly      so mo pow to em   hehhe
[04:59] <Seveas> the Ubuntu bot not due to the very high volume of abuse
[04:59] <deb> Hi *
[04:59] <ballchalk> has anyone been able to get itunes running thourgh wine?
[04:59] <ballchalk> i can't get mine to install
[04:59] <Seveas> if you have suggestions for improvement, just say so
[04:59] <JohnFlux> Seveas: why does the debian one work so well ?
[04:59] <JohnFlux> Seveas: and they don't get such abuse?
[05:00] <Seveas> simple, the people in #debian scare people away
[05:00] <deb> I just upgraded to edgy and now I am not able to mount a ntfs partition .
[05:00] <JohnFlux> Seveas: what crap
[05:00] <Jucato> errr... i was about to "lol"... but...
[05:00] <deb> any suggestions ?
[05:00] <intelikey> now there's a thought
[05:00] <Seveas> JohnFlux, it's true though
[05:00] <JohnFlux> Seveas: no it's not - it's has more than double the number of people on the channel compared to here
[05:01] <Hawkwind> Seveas: Not really improvements that are needed.  The facts need redoing for a lot of them to make them more user friendly and to provide a bit better information
[05:01] <Seveas> JohnFlux, #ubuntu channel has become bigger than #debian within a year
[05:01] <Seveas> Hawkwind, if you have suggestions for improvement, just say so
[05:01] <Seveas> JohnFlux, with those users a lot of abuse also came in
[05:01] <Jucato> JohnFlux: this it the #kubuntu channel... it's bound to have less people than #ubuntu
[05:02] <Hawkwind> Seveas: Is the bug with adding/updating facts fixed now ?
[05:02] <Seveas> Hawkwind, almost -- it would have been fixed if people wouldn't keep interrupting me for nonsens
[05:02] <JohnFlux> Seveas: the point still stands. they have >600 people - why can't we have an open bot but they can?  just putting it down to them "scaring away users" is just silly
[05:02] <Seveas> JohnFlux, we have 900 users, they jave less than 600
[05:03] <Seveas> JohnFlux, to sum it up: it was open, a lot of abuse was the result so it is now closed. live with it or ignore it
[05:03] <intelikey> Seveas he may have meant a kubotu
[05:03] <intelikey> ?
[05:04] <Jucato> nah! no need for a kubotu. we just need to update the docs to include Kubuntu instructions
[05:04] <Admiral_Chicago> wow, #ubuntu is huge
[05:04] <intelikey> but why?  isn't kubuntu supposed to be a fork ?
[05:04] <Jucato> I'm scared to go there :-D
[05:04] <Seveas> intelikey, no
[05:05] <intelikey> oh.  ok.
[05:05] <Seveas> if factoids could be improved for kubuntu, just suggest improvements. Many factoids have instructions for both ubuntu and kubuntu
[05:05] <ballchalk> can anyone help me with sound? i mean to play restricted mp3s? i've installed the pakcages still won't wokr
[05:05] <Seveas> !mp3 > ballchalk
[05:05] <ballchalk> excse my spelling
[05:05] <Jucato> Kubuntu is a derivative distro, not a fork
[05:06] <nagyv> how can I check the md5sum of a CD? I know what was the sum of the iso, but don't know wheather the burning was successful.
[05:06] <Seveas> nagyv, mdvsum /dev/hdc (or whatever your cd drive is)
[05:06] <Hawkwind> Seveas: If someone like myself wanted to add/edit a bunch of the facts, would it be best to email you a list of everything ?
[05:06] <Seveas> md5sum*
[05:06] <Admiral_Chicago> ballchalk, what guide did you use?
[05:06] <Seveas> Hawkwind, or simply ask to be added as editor ;)
[05:06] <JohnFlux> couldn't we have an open bot, and a closed one?
[05:07] <Hawkwind> Seveas: Ahhh.  Can I be added as an editor :)
[05:07] <Seveas> JohnFlux, that's about as useless as it gets
[05:07] <JohnFlux> Seveas: why?
[05:07] <Jucato> Seveas: actually the factoids aren't just the problem. Some of the wiki/help pages that ubotu points to doesn't have Kubuntu-specific instructions
[05:07] <Seveas> Hawkwind, sure, once I fix the thing so edits actually work ;)
[05:07] <Seveas> Jucato, then the wiki page has to be improved
[05:07] <Hawkwind> Seveas: Many thanks.  Just let me know when
[05:07] <Seveas> it's a wiki, iprove it 
[05:07] <hoopy> i just installed kubuntu, how does one become super user???
[05:07] <JohnFlux> Seveas: better than having a closed useless bot
[05:07] <Hawkwind> Jucato: That's where you and I come into play and fix the wiki page(s) :P
[05:07] <hoopy> it never had me set up a root password
[05:07] <Seveas> hoopy, sudo -i
[05:07] <Jucato> Seveas: yeah, that was what I was telling intelikey :-D
[05:07] <dr_willis_> !sudo
[05:07] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:08] <hoopy> cool
[05:08] <waspius> does anyone knoe how i can make a remote desktop connection with windows?
[05:08] <Seveas> JohnFlux, useless people are even worse and if you'll excuse me, you're now on /ignore
[05:08] <ballchalk> seveas what?
[05:08] <Admiral_Chicago> waspius, under linux?
[05:08] <Hawkwind> ballchalk: Read what the bot said to you in pm
[05:08] <waspius> Admiral_Chicago: yes
[05:08] <Jucato> kdrc and kfrb?
[05:08] <ballchalk> admiral_chicago i used that 3 links on the ubuntu web and installed all the packages that were in the list
[05:09] <nagyv> ballchalk: pm = private message
[05:09] <Admiral_Chicago> ballchalk, did you check alsamixer
[05:09] <ballchalk> i use kaffiene and amarok still wont do it
[05:09] <Admiral_Chicago> run the command "alsamixer" under konsole
[05:09] <ballchalk> the ugly and bad and evil packages are installed lol
[05:09] <dr_willis_> waspius,  could use vnc on both of them.. or  use that windows remote desktop feature and the gnome/kde remote desktop tool
[05:09] <Admiral_Chicago> and try changing the sound engine to alsa or oss and back
[05:09] <ballchalk> hawkwind yea i did those were the sites
[05:09] <intelikey> 0x61 0x00 0x00  that is  a s.square s.square   is some sort of face ?
[05:10] <pierreth> thank you, have now audacity
[05:10] <ballchalk> admiral_chicago oh not yet
[05:11] <excitatory> question.. i just did a fresh install on a second machine..i'm attempting to install openssh, but it's not working.  The error appears to be something with locking the passwd file.  Here is the dpkg output: http://subfluous.net/dpkg-output.txt
[05:11] <waspius> dr_willis_: do i run desktop sharing or remote desktop connection
[05:12] <intelikey> well i need this cd burner working....   guess i'll leave so i can fix it.
[05:13] <ballchalk> admiral_chicago where can i find engine setting ? i dont see it in kmix or alsamix
[05:14] <Admiral_Chicago> no in amarok
[05:14] <ballchalk> k brb
[05:14] <Admiral_Chicago> settings, config amarok, engine
[05:14] <dr_willis_> waspius,  i always just install the vncservers and clients and do it that way. Ive not messed with the 'windows variant of desktop shareing' whatever its called.
[05:15] <dr_willis_> waspius,  since i think that feature is sort of disabled part way in XP home.
[05:16] <waspius> dr_willis_: ok thanx
[05:17] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone
[05:17] <ballchalk> Admiral_Chicago:  changed
[05:17] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey abattoir!
[05:18] <Admiral_Chicago> did it work?
[05:18] <ubuntu> Hello qll
[05:18] <ballchalk> tryin
[05:18] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hi :)
[05:18] <ubuntu> back again trying to use K
[05:19] <ballchalk> hmmm
[05:19] <ballchalk> Admiral_Chicago: no won't work
[05:20] <ballchalk> Admiral_Chicago: kaffiene doesn't even let you change engines
[05:20] <ubuntu> hi people
[05:20] <ballchalk> Admiral_Chicago: amarok just exits
[05:21] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir Query?
[05:22] <Hawkwind> MilhousePunkRock: Only if you pay $20 in advance :P
[05:22] <abattoir> hehe
[05:22] <abattoir> hello Hawkwind
[05:23] <ballchalk> Admiral_Chicago: omg xmms wont even work?!?!
[05:23] <ballchalk> wtf
[05:23] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Good morning
[05:23] <Admiral_Chicago> ballchalk, no idea
[05:23] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey Hawkwind... You in #e as well?
[05:23] <Hawkwind> MilhousePunkRock: I never leave there :)
[05:23] <Admiral_Chicago> you've exhausted my knowledge on audio... :\
[05:23] <MilhousePunkRock> Aight, I'll be there in a second with e-specific questions...
[05:24] <ballchalk> ahhhh
[05:24] <ballchalk> shii
[05:24] <philippe_> hello
[05:25] <philippe_> It's the first time for me on irc
[05:25] <philippe_> is there someone from belgium in here ?
[05:25] <ballchalk> Admiral_Chicago: so sound works for you? which player do u use to play mp3s?
[05:25] <Admiral_Chicago> amarok
[05:25] <Admiral_Chicago> when it doesn't work, I reboot
[05:25] <ballchalk> and it works?
[05:25] <Admiral_Chicago> the windows method but it works
[05:25] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[05:25] <Hawkwind> !belgium
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about belgium - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <ballchalk> hmmmm
[05:26] <MilhousePunkRock> !be
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about be - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <ballchalk> can u check to see it's dependencies?
[05:26] <Hawkwind> What's the country code for Belgium ?
[05:26] <Hawkwind> MilhousePunkRock: Ahhh, thanks
[05:26] <philippe_> 32
[05:26] <MilhousePunkRock> Seems there is no belgian channel...
[05:26] <MilhousePunkRock> philippe_ French or Dutch, what do you prefer?
[05:26] <pierreth> can i move the scroll of my applications to the left side?
[05:26] <philippe_> I'm noob on irc
[05:26] <philippe_> french
[05:26] <MilhousePunkRock> !fr
[05:26] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:26] <pierreth> i mean the scroll bar
[05:27] <philippe_> thanks
[05:27] <pierreth> philippe_: allo
[05:27] <philippe_> humm how do I go there from this now on?
[05:27] <philippe_> allo pierret
[05:27] <philippe_> h
[05:27] <dr_willis_> pierreth,  cant say that ive seen that done. other then in 'xterm'
[05:27] <JohnFlux>   
[05:27] <philippe_> ?
[05:27] <ballchalk> Admiral_Chicago: i can stream mp3s
[05:27] <Un-punkt-tot> philippe_, type "/join <channelname>"
[05:28] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i don't understand
[05:28] <pierreth> dr_willis_: ok, why you have that choice there?
[05:28] <philippe_> thanks Un-punk-tot
[05:28] <Admiral_Chicago> try rescanning your collection
[05:28] <Un-punkt-tot> np
[05:28] <philippe_> hello
[05:28] <pierreth> philippe_: est-ce que tu veux que je t'aide en franais?
[05:28] <philippe_> oui je veux bien ...
[05:28] <dr_willis_> pierreth,  its an old-skool X application. and it is customizeable in ways that people today find... weird. :)
[05:28] <philippe_> merci
[05:29] <dr_willis_> like a lot of the old pure Xlib apps.
[05:29] <Tm_T> !fr
[05:29] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:29] <abattoir> !ja
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ja - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <abattoir> !jp
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <Tm_T> abattoir: ?
[05:29] <pierreth> dr_willis_: for me it is now weard :-)
[05:29] <dr_willis_> actually with xterm (and other terminals poerhaps?) there may be a left side scroll option.
[05:29] <philippe_> J'ai install le dernier jdk java  l'aide du .bin
[05:29] <Tm_T> philippe_: please use english ;)
[05:29] <philippe_> oops
[05:30] <dr_willis_> sort of sad whenyou see/rember cool ways things used to work.. and now the 'new and improved' stuff dosent have the same functionality
[05:30] <pierreth> Tm_T: we will help him in french to help him move
[05:30] <soulrider> hey everyone
[05:30] <philippe_> I've donwload and installed the latest JDK on my kubuntu distro (default)
[05:30] <abattoir> Tm_T: sorry, my mistake... was trying to see if there were japanese channels... should've pm'd ubotu
[05:30] <philippe_> so, all is installed in /~
[05:30] <pierreth> philippe_: are you ok with english?
[05:30] <Tm_T> pierreth: no problemo
[05:31] <philippe_> Qustion 1 : How could I move this installation for it to be available from all users on my computer ?
[05:31] <pierreth> Tm_T: no problema :-)
[05:31] <MilhousePunkRock> Atari pwns Amiga, dr_willis_
[05:31] <philippe_> yes it is ok for me in english (I'll do my best) thx pierreth
[05:31] <abattoir> Hawkwind: hehe :P
[05:32] <dr_willis_> MilhousePunkRock,  yea.. sure they did.. :)
[05:32] <dr_willis_> Activision :)
[05:32] <pierreth> philippe_: what computer architecture are you using?
[05:32] <philippe_> i386
[05:32] <Tm_T> pierreth: nooo, it's "no problemo" to me ;)
[05:32] <MilhousePunkRock> Not in the literal way though, but there was always competition back than between atari and amiga users...
[05:32] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all, i have kubuntu dapper... is it possible - and have it any intellect - to compile my own kde?
[05:33] <Tm_T> MetaMorfoziS: yes it is
[05:33] <Tm_T> MetaMorfoziS: but possibly it's not wise
[05:33] <pierreth> Tm_T: ok for me it is no problema :-) no problema
[05:33] <Tm_T> hehe
[05:33] <MetaMorfoziS> Is there any manual, for how to start...
[05:33] <MetaMorfoziS> :DDD
[05:33] <MetaMorfoziS> why?
[05:33] <dr_willis_> it can be a pain in the (#*#*# :)
[05:33] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[05:33] <Tm_T> MetaMorfoziS: well, in best case, you just psend much time for nothing
[05:33] <dr_willis_> and can take some time i am betting.
[05:34] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[05:34] <Tm_T> MetaMorfoziS: in worst, you don't have anything working in your hands in the end
[05:34] <philippe_> ? pierreth
[05:34] <pierreth> philippe_: are you having a problem with this right now?
[05:34] <Tm_T> MetaMorfoziS: have any reason to do so?
[05:34] <philippe_> well it's my second question ... in deed
[05:34] <MetaMorfoziS> hoh, like nvidia driver manual install... it's familiar
[05:34] <MetaMorfoziS> Tm_t i'm weariness...:)
[05:34] <MetaMorfoziS> and i want to start to friend the compiling...
[05:34] <philippe_> the default settings of kubuntu is to use the gnu free java interpreter ...
[05:35] <Tm_T> I see I see
[05:35] <pierreth> philippe_: just change the owner of your installation if it is the case
[05:35] <philippe_> I want to use the original (the one from sun) to launch my application
[05:35] <Tm_T> MetaMorfoziS: well, to get build dependencies, "apt-get build-dep kdelibs kdebase" is good start
[05:36] <MetaMorfoziS> hm... so if it isn't wise i have an other idea
[05:36] <JohnFlux> 
[05:36] <pierreth> philippe_: just make the java sun first in your path
[05:36] <MetaMorfoziS> uh
[05:36] <MetaMorfoziS> JohnFlux: is you normal?:D
[05:36] <philippe_> ok thanks but how ?
[05:36] <MetaMorfoziS> so i want to make a virtual machine, and test how many ram needs the different wm-s and de-s
[05:36] <Tm_T> MetaMorfoziS: after that, check http://kdesvn-build.kde.org/
[05:36] <pierreth> philippe_: how to change your path?
[05:37] <Un-punkt-tot> JohnFlux, how do you do that? writing Japanese....
[05:37] <philippe_> pierreth : Yes, how can I change it ... I'just migrate from winblows ... you know ... (ashamed)
[05:37] <MetaMorfoziS> 
[05:37] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[05:37] <Tm_T> ...
[05:37] <Tm_T> please behave
[05:37] <dr_willis_> export PATH=new/path:statements/go/here:$PATH
[05:37] <ballchalk> hah
[05:37] <dr_willis_> :)
[05:37] <MetaMorfoziS> okay, sorry:)
[05:37] <pierreth> philippe_: is for application to start from the command line only?
[05:37] <dr_willis_> bash basics. check out some of the bash tutorials.
[05:38] <philippe_> for all application, I'm a java developer and teacher ...
[05:38] <pierreth> philippe_: edit your ~/.bashrc
[05:38] <dr_willis_> or .bash_profile
[05:38] <dr_willis_> system wide - theres a /etc/bashprofile (I think)
[05:38] <waylandbill> philippe_: migrating from windoze is nothing to be ashamed of.. smart enough to make the switch. :-)
[05:39] <pierreth> philippe_: add the line dr_willis_ told you to the file
[05:39] <philippe_> thx waylandbill
[05:39] <dr_willis_> better - learn how the PATH stuff in Linux works. :P
[05:39] <dr_willis_> what path are we setting anyway>
[05:39] <pierreth> philippe_: after that, you'll be able to start java app like 'java some.jar'
[05:40] <philippe_> the path to official jre and jdk
[05:40] <philippe_> yes I'learn it but I need this install to work NOW
[05:40] <pierreth> philippe_: you don't where is your jre?
[05:40] <epitaf> ahem.. a person trieX to help me binX a commanX to winXows-button-X. X in my sentence means the key that I now cannot write, namely the last letter of the man in the sky, GOX, get what key I mean? Can someone please help me remove this binX?
[05:40] <MetaMorfoziS> what is the little-st linux?
[05:40] <jott> philippe_: you do not need to change your path when you have the sdk installed from repository.. do "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[05:40] <MetaMorfoziS> that debian based?:D
[05:41] <dr_willis_> Hmm.. I never had to mess witht he PATH to get Java working
[05:41] <jott> philippe_: and choose the vm you want..
[05:41] <dr_willis_> yea what jott  said.. but i dont think i ever had to do that either.
[05:41] <jott> dr_willis_: well you might still use gcj ;)
[05:41] <dr_willis_> jott,  nope. :P i rember checking that onc3
[05:42] <philippe_> thanks jott it worked fine
[05:42] <philippe_> ithks dr_willis and pierreth
[05:42] <epitaf> hrm, anyone avialable?
[05:42] <philippe_> why should I use gcj ?
[05:42] <pierreth> philippe_: try 'which java' to know if you have the good java
[05:43] <jott> pierreth: this will not help as it points to a symlink
[05:43] <dr_willis_> java -version
[05:43] <philippe_> still pointing to gcj ... must I open a new bash session to validate the changes
[05:44] <pierreth> philippe_: or 'java --version'
[05:44] <jott> philippe_: yes you have to update the env..
[05:44] <jott> philippe_: just start a new bash
[05:44] <jott> (or do source /etc/environment)
[05:49] <philippe_> hmmm it seems that there is prob with my install of jdk ?
[05:49] <philippe_> jre is still pointing to gij
[05:49] <gan|y|med> hi
[05:50] <pierreth> philippe_: I think you have to change JAVAPATH
[05:50] <philippe_> yes I think too but I can't find any $PATH lines in my .bashrc
[05:51] <jott> philippe_: hm it should work by using update-alternatives..
[05:51] <jott> philippe_: double check you have selected the sun vm there ;)
[05:51] <wimpies> HI all, I read somewhere there are packages for xserver-xgl and compriz-kde and that I
[05:51] <asimon> philippe_: Did you run update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun ? That should point all java related alternatives to sun's implementation.
[05:51] <wimpies> should be able to install from dappe'rs repositories using apt-get
[05:51] <gan|y|med> how can i disable bluetooth functionality in kcontrol?
[05:51] <wimpies> However the specified packages are not there
[05:51] <philippe_> jott: the proposed version are GIJ or GCJ ? Not my installed JDK
[05:51] <wimpies> Does anybody know where they are
[05:52] <Jucato> !xgl
[05:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:52] <jott> philippe_: have you installed jdk via apt or manually?
[05:52] <pierreth> philippe_: the solution of asimon is probably the way to go
[05:52] <philippe_> i'll try the soluce from asimon
[05:52] <asimon> philippe_: I forget, you may want to put a 'sudo' before that command.
[05:53] <jott> asimon: is there a diffence between update-alternatives and update-java-alternatives? (in the result) ?
[05:53] <philippe_> asimon: unknown argument '-s' ???
[05:53] <asimon> jott: No, but the update-java-alternatives updates all java related alternatives in one go.
[05:53] <philippe_> i manually installed the .bin downloaded from java;sun.com
[05:54] <Jucato> is there a way to make Konqueror use the font/style/color of the web page it's viewing rather than the system's settings?
[05:54] <philippe_> chmod +x java... .bin
[05:54] <jott> philippe_: oh i see
[05:54] <philippe_> sh jdk ... .bin
[05:54] <jott> philippe_: you should have fetched it via apt.. would make things easier ;)
[05:54] <philippe_> and then all was installed in my homedir (sic) and not for all users
[05:55] <waspius> anyone know what system monitor to use but which will not use allot of memory
[05:55] <gan|y|med> where is the "autostart" for kde?
[05:55] <jott> !java
[05:55] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:55] <h3sp4wn> ~.kde/Autostart
[05:55] <abattoir> gan|y|med: ~/.kde/Autostart :)
[05:56] <philippe_> which command for apt-get java ?
[05:56] <abattoir> hello h3sp4wn :)
[05:56] <jott> philippe_: apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[05:56] <jott> (prepend sudo ...)
[05:56] <Jucato> err.. isn't it supposed to be sun-java5-jre or sun-java5-bin?
[05:56] <gan|y|med> thx
[05:56] <Jucato> jdk = development kit right?
[05:57] <gan|y|med> ciao
[05:57] <jott> jre = rutime environment...
[05:57] <philippe_> jott: pfff ... where the hell ... (do you ALL know the apt package-names ...)
[05:57] <jott> apt-cache search ...
[05:57] <philippe_> jucato: right
[05:57] <asimon> philippe_: You also need to have the multivers repository activated. It's not enabled by default. The Sun Java packages for *buntu reside in this repo.
[05:57] <h3sp4wn> If you want the later version you can use java-package
[05:57] <Jucato> or, apt:/ in Konqueror (nice GUI)
[05:57] <philippe_> pff ... i need a book with all these tips
[05:58] <sickgirl> make
[05:58] <philippe_> multiverse enabled
[05:59] <philippe_> all : ... installing jdk via aptitude
[05:59] <cosma> hello.. I'm trying to compile a kernel module (an USB wireless stick) but make complains about a missing /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-amd64-generic/build directory.. what am I missing? Tnx
[06:00] <philippe_> nice apt:/ gui thanks a lot jucato
[06:00] <Jucato> no problem
[06:01] <waylandbill> philippe_: the tips all come with time.
[06:01] <cosma> I've downloaded linux-source and linux-headers... is there something else I need?
[06:02] <philippe_> I know but it is a little bit grrr ... the soluce was so simple
[06:02] <philippe_> Is the jre moz-java plugin also installed for web browsers ?
[06:03] <philippe_> ... with the default install by apt ???
[06:03] <asimon> philippe_: For the plugin install the package 'sun-java5-plugin'
[06:04] <monkey13> I just switched my laptop to use the ati drivers and WOW did it make a nice difference at 1400x1050
[06:04] <philippe_> asimon: thanks
[06:04] <monkey13> I may even try xgl again
[06:05] <pierreth> is there a way to see the notification area even when the kicker is hidden?
[06:05] <philippe_> thanks to all : java is installed and ok for all
[06:06] <pierreth> philippe_: :-)
[06:06] <asimon> pierreth: AFAIK only by unhiding it.
[06:07] <pierreth> asimon: well, this is not very efficient
[06:07] <k4s> hey all
[06:07] <pierreth> hi
[06:08] <ballchalk> hello
[06:08] <asimon> pierreth: No, it isn't.  But you could maybe add a small extra panel with just the notification area on it and keep that visible all the time.
[06:08] <ballchalk> synaptic and adept use the same repository?
[06:08] <asimon> ballchalk: yes.
[06:08] <waspius> how do i check my ip?
[06:08] <fritsch> waspius: ifconfig
[06:08] <D4rkly_> ifconfig
[06:08] <waspius> thanx
[06:09] <pierreth> asimon: really? how can i do?
[06:09] <k4s> how can i turn the windows transparent in KDE
[06:09] <k4s> i got the menus to do it but cant find the option for the windows
[06:10] <waspius> k4s: u need to install the windows decorations called crystal...if i am not mistaken
[06:10] <fritsch> waspius: you are
[06:10] <waspius> :(
[06:10] <fritsch> waspius: k4s, you have a damn fast computer?
[06:10] <asimon> pierreth: For a new panel: right-click on a free space on your panel, choose 'Add new panal'->Panel.
[06:10] <fritsch> k4s: sorry, was for you
[06:11] <waspius> fritsch: that is what i had done..and it was ok...now in my new installation it dont work
[06:11] <k4s> oh
[06:11] <k4s> lol
[06:11] <fritsch> k4s: look here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Xorg_X11_and_Tranparency
[06:11] <k4s> yea i got a fast computer
[06:11] <fritsch> k4s: really not everysthing is relevant, but some parts ...
[06:12] <fritsch> k4s: mmmh, if i think :-) only one thing is important, rest ist done by kde
[06:12] <fritsch> k4s: wait
[06:12] <k4s> k
[06:12] <fritsch> k4s:
[06:12] <fritsch> Section "Extensions"
[06:12] <fritsch>     Option "Composite" "true"
[06:12] <fritsch> EndSection
[06:12] <asimon> pierreth: Then move that new panel whereever you wish, add the 'system tray' applet to it and configure the panel like you want, i.e. make it smaller, etc.
[06:12] <fritsch> k4s: put this in you /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:12] <fritsch> sorry for pasting ;-)
[06:13] <k4s> man its been so long since i edited a xorg file
[06:13] <k4s> lol
[06:13] <fritsch> k4s: hehe
[06:13] <fritsch> k4s: just add it, without deleting anything, no problem
[06:13] <ballchalk> yo how do i check dependencies in adept or synaptic?
[06:13] <asimon> pierreth: Before you are able to add the system tray applet to a new panel, you have first to remove it from the other panel, because of some unknown reasons there can be only one system tray.
[06:13] <cosma> do you have a /lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)/build in your system? pls I'm stuck :|
[06:13] <fritsch> k4s: after that you can edit window settings in kde control panel
[06:13] <fritsch> cosma: yes of course
[06:13] <pierreth> asimon: OK
[06:14] <fritsch> cosma: these are the modules you are currently running
[06:14] <epitaf> does a directory need to be empty for the rmdir to work??
[06:14] <fritsch> epitaf: mmmh:
[06:14] <fritsch> fritsch@dantooine:~$ whatis rmdir
[06:14] <fritsch> rmdir (1)            - remove empty directorie
[06:14] <fritsch> epitaf: so yes ;-)
[06:14] <k4s> i am gonna try it in a few
[06:14] <epitaf> ahh :)
[06:14] <fritsch> epitaf: but you can use rm -r directory ...
[06:15] <ballchalk> i got a question
[06:15] <waylandbill> epitaf: you could use rm -rf if you are careful
[06:15] <ballchalk> if i installed a package............
[06:15] <epitaf> thanks guys
[06:15] <fritsch> epitaf: this deltes recursively your dir <- so the whole dir
[06:15] <ballchalk> it downloads like 4 files
[06:15] <ballchalk> so when i uninstall that 1 package.........does it mean those 4 files it downloaded will be uninstalled also?
[06:15] <cosma> fritsch: do you know any reason why I have not one? :)
[06:16] <waylandbill> ballchalk: I think aptitude removes those orphans but apt-get wouldn't
[06:16] <fritsch> cosma: you MUST have one
[06:16] <epitaf> fritsch : if i use rm -r /usr/local/protux , thats just going to remove the protux dir right?
[06:16] <fritsch> cosma:or you could not be "now" in your ubuntu
[06:16] <fritsch> epitaf: yes
[06:16] <epitaf> fritsch : nice, thanks
[06:16] <waylandbill> you can use deborphan (sometimes needs more than one iteration)
[06:16] <ballchalk> waylandbill: what are orphans? are they dependents?
[06:16] <ballchalk> just making sure
[06:16] <cosma> cosma@cosma-desktop:/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-amd64-generic$ cd build \ bash: cd: build: No such file or directory
[06:16] <fritsch> cosma: you could try: sudo apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r` --reinstall
[06:17] <cosma> fritsch:  I'm
[06:17] <fritsch> cosma: what says: uname -r
[06:17] <cosma> trying tnx
[06:17] <waylandbill> orphans should be dependancies that are no longer depended on
[06:17] <fritsch> cosma: no! wait
[06:17] <ballchalk> waylandbill: because if i only use the package once and decide to remove it......then i wonder if those orphans will still stick and stay there just taking up space
[06:17] <cosma> it says 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic
[06:17] <ballchalk> waylandbill: oh i c
[06:17] <cosma> fritsch: ok, waiting :)
[06:17] <fritsch> cosma: do cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`
[06:17] <waylandbill> ballchalk: yes if you apt-get'd them, they'll be left behind.
[06:17] <k4s> fritsch: can i edit my xorg file in kde? or do i need to do it via a terminal
[06:17] <fritsch> cosma: after that ls
[06:17] <ballchalk> ok so i'ma adept for aptitude
[06:18] <fritsch> k4s: you can edit it in kde, but after that you have to restart kdm
[06:18] <fritsch> k4s: be very careful! if only one thing is wrongly edited your kde wont come up anymore
[06:18] <cosma> fritsch: I'm in /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-amd64-generic
[06:18] <epitaf> I've got another problem.. can someone help me unbinD my D key? I cant make little D...
[06:18] <fritsch> cosma: ls gives nothing?
[06:19] <cosma> fritsch: ls shows a couple of files, but not the "build" dir
[06:19] <ballchalk> whoa
[06:19] <fritsch> epitaf: what happens, if you press "shift" and d
[06:19] <k4s> fritsch: what method do you sugest
[06:19] <ballchalk> aptitude is konsole based
[06:19] <fritsch> cosma: build dir should not be there anyway
[06:19] <epitaf> fritsch: i get big D
[06:19] <fritsch> epitaf: cool ;-) soory dont know immo
[06:19] <epitaf> fritsch: its because i trieD to make a binD earlier
[06:19] <waylandbill> I'm not sure which adept is a front end to.
[06:19] <cosma> fritsch: mmm then the makefile for that module is bugged?
[06:19] <epitaf> fritsch: let me show you the commanDs I useD
[06:19] <Hawkwind> Adept is a front end to apt-get
[06:20] <fritsch> cosma: try: sudo apt-get install linux-header-`uname -r
[06:20] <fritsch> cosma: linux-header-`uname -r `
[06:20] <philippe_> I'm searching an emulator for Kubuntu ?
[06:20] <fritsch> cosma: after that try recompiling your "modul"
[06:20] <epitaf> fritsch: gconftool-2 -t str --set /apps/metacity/global_keybindings/run_command_9 "<Super_L>D"
[06:20] <fritsch> cosma: mmmh, but the latest kernel ist -26- won`t upgrade?
[06:20] <epitaf> fritsch: gconftool-2 -t str --set /apps/metacity/keybinding_commands/command_9 "<Control><Alt>D"
[06:21] <fritsch> epitaf: the last help is to delete your config files
[06:21] <waylandbill> Hawkwind: just found that on the project homepage. thanks. :-D
[06:21] <ballchalk> waylandbill: what repository does aptitude use? same as adept?
[06:21] <fritsch> epitaf: i am not familiar with gnome, sorry
[06:21] <cosma> fritsch: Ok I'm doing it using adept
[06:21] <epitaf> fritsch: ok, thanks anways
[06:21] <epitaf> i'll try in #Ubuntu
[06:21] <waylandbill> ballchalk: yes. They both use apt's sources
[06:21] <cosma> fritsch: before that I had downloaded the wrong version of headers (-26 instead of -23)
[06:22] <fritsch> cosma: please upgrade to newest kernel, because of security
[06:22] <ballchalk> waylandbill: what does purge do in that?
[06:22] <fritsch> cosma: it's currently the -26 i think
[06:22] <dvd> hello, i just installed kubuntu 6.06 and i would like to know how to show my FAT32 partitions?
[06:22] <cosma> fritsch: tnx for the advice, I'll do that ASAP :)
[06:22] <fritsch> k4s: ?
[06:22] <fritsch> k4s: you got it edited?
[06:22] <waylandbill> (I think) it tosses the downloaded packages.
[06:23] <fritsch> waylandbill: no
[06:23] <fritsch> waylandbill: --purge deletes the config files
[06:23] <fritsch> waylandbill: sudo apt-get clean "tosses"? the downloaded files
[06:24] <nagyv> !compiz >nagyv
[06:25] <waylandbill> fritsch: yes. you're right. was just reading the aptitude page.
[06:25] <ballchalk> wheere's the aptitude page?
[06:25] <fritsch> ballchalk: man aptitude
[06:26] <ballchalk> one thing i don't like about windows is that trash dlls get left over
[06:26] <philippe_> how to install my internal card reader (ricoh) ?
[06:26] <fritsch> ballchalk: this is really a big problems in debian/ubuntu too
[06:26] <fritsch> philippe_: i think you need a kernel patch
[06:26] <waylandbill> everyone hates left over junk
[06:26] <fritsch> philippe_: this patch is in stable 2.6.17
[06:26] <dvd> anyone out there knows how to solve my problem?
[06:27] <fritsch> dvd: what is your problem?
[06:27] <ballchalk> what's good about aptitude comapared to adept and synaptic?
[06:27] <philippe_> thx i just update the dapper dist
[06:27] <philippe_> ? how must i patch the kernel
[06:27] <ballchalk> aptitude runs in the konsole but what features does it have?
[06:27] <fritsch> ballchalk: mmmh don`t know, used just apt for my live
[06:27] <fritsch> philippe_: this is a very "advanced" topic, it`s not easy
[06:27] <fritsch> philippe_: you need the correct patches to apply
[06:27] <fritsch> philippe_: and correctly rebuild it
[06:27] <ballchalk> fritsch: what's the problem with deb/ubuntu???
[06:28] <fritsch> ballchalk: if you upgrade, lets say from breezy to ubuntu, there are some packages just "lost"
[06:28] <philippe_> I know ... do you have a tutorial for that ? what package ?
[06:28] <philippe_> sorry what patch
[06:28] <fritsch> ballchalk: the stay installed, but not needed etc.
[06:28] <ballchalk> fritsch: the pakcages that lost you mean .........ohhhh
[06:28] <fritsch> philippe_: mmmh sdhci patch was it, if i remember correctly
[06:28] <fritsch> philippe_: just a mom
[06:28] <ballchalk> fritsch: so it becomes a messy system once you upgrade?
[06:29] <fritsch> ballchalk: yes, "not that big" but, yes :-(
[06:29] <waylandbill> ballchalk: if you have it enabled, aptitude removes unneccessary packages as needed.
[06:29] <ballchalk> waylandbill: great where would i go to enable that?
[06:30] <fritsch> philippe_: fun of experimenting? -> lets build 2.6.17.8 kernel :-)
[06:30] <waylandbill> if you run without commands, you'll get the konsole gui, then F10 to the menu and move over to options.
[06:30] <philippe_> fritsch: How to get my kernel Serial ?
[06:30] <cosma> fritsch: installing the right headers done the job, the build folder is there :) thank you
[06:31] <fritsch> cosma: no prob! (here to help)
[06:31] <fritsch> philippe_: we have to build 2.6.17.8 from source ...
[06:31] <philippe_> fritsch: how ?
[06:31] <fritsch> philippe_: 5 steps
[06:31] <philippe_> ok I take note
[06:31] <pierreth> can i have the weather with the kicker?
[06:31] <ballchalk> waylandbill: u there?
[06:32] <waylandbill> ballchalk: yes
[06:32] <fritsch> philippe_: donwload it, unpack it, copy ubuntu config, make oldconfig, enable SDHCI reader, correctly build it, install it, reboot, hope
[06:32] <waylandbill> ballchalk: if you run aptitude without arguments, you'll get the konsole gui, then F10 to the menu and move over to options.
[06:32] <fritsch> philippe_: it`s a very hard job, please register your nick, we could do it in a private window ...
[06:32] <philippe_> haaaaaa ... so simple ... wich prayer must i Say ?
[06:32] <ballchalk> hey kubuntu has gnome installed????
[06:32] <ballchalk> i didn't know that
[06:32] <fritsch> philippe_: its not that hard *g*
[06:33] <philippe_> how could i register a nick
[06:33] <fritsch> ballchalk: some libs perhaps
[06:33] <waylandbill> ballchalk: I don't think it's the whole of gnome, but probably some gtk dependencies
[06:33] <ballchalk> ohhh
[06:34] <dvd> so, anyone knows how to see fat32 partitions in  kubuntu?
[06:34] <fritsch> philippe_: /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER
[06:34] <MitchM> dvd kubuntu has fat23 support built in
[06:34] <condor> \help
[06:34] <ballchalk> waylandbill: ok so to set aptitude to remove orphans i choose Clean obsolete files?
[06:34] <MitchM> dvd: just mount the partition
[06:35] <ballchalk> how does it know if it's obsolete?
[06:35] <ballchalk> sorry i'm getting too technical
[06:35] <fritsch> ballchalk: he could look for "are there any programs depending on me ..."
[06:35] <ballchalk> fritsch: ohhhh
[06:35] <ballchalk> ok
[06:35] <ballchalk> brb
[06:35] <dvd> MitchM:  how do i mount the partition?
[06:35] <fritsch> ballchalk: but i really don`t knwo, never saw this option before
[06:36] <waylandbill> ballchalk: depenency handling "remove unused packages automatically"
[06:36] <ballchalk> hmm just did it but it didn't really run anything
[06:36] <MitchM> !info moutn
[06:36] <ubotu> Package moutn does not exist in dapper
[06:36] <MitchM> !info mount
[06:36] <ubotu> mount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.12r-4ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 149 kB, installed size 336 kB
[06:36] <cosma> mmmm... it's "gcc" the right command to invoke the compiler?
[06:36] <HailandKill> This is driving me insane.. so my guides say different things! Where do I actually configure wireless network devices? And are there any good guides for kubuntu. I'm using breezy
[06:36] <ballchalk> waylandbill: gotta look for the dependency thing hold on
[06:37] <dvd> hmm still cant find it
[06:37] <ballchalk> waylandbill: it doesn't do it
[06:38] <MitchM> dvd: mount /dev/hda1/ /mnt/fat32 -- for example... replace /dev/hd with your proper drive
[06:38] <ballchalk> waylandbill: or wait do i have to go through each and everyone package and run dependency ?
[06:38] <ballchalk> it doesn't it doesn't go through the whole list?
[06:38] <fritsch> philippe_: still there?
[06:39] <waylandbill> ballchalk: when you use aptitude to remove a package it installed, it will take out the left over orphans on remove.
[06:39] <fritsch> waylandbill: i am not sure of this - will read
[06:39] <dvd> thank you MitchM
[06:39] <dvd> it works
[06:39] <MitchM> anytime dvd
[06:39] <MitchM> =)
[06:40] <waylandbill> deborphan is another way to get the orphans out too.
[06:40] <fritsch> waylandbill: cool, good know, me prefers lookin at this
[06:40] <dvd> i have another question... i have a synaptics touchpad and i would like to disable tapping. are there anyway i can disable it?
[06:40] <ballchalk> ohhh
[06:40] <ballchalk> hmm
[06:41] <ballchalk> so there's nothing that will actually go through all the packages and check for orphans unless you remove that particular package?
[06:41] <MitchM> dvd: that would be a question for Google =)
[06:41] <fritsch> dvd: yes, in /etc/X11/xorg
[06:41] <MitchM> or fritsch...
[06:41] <fritsch> MitchM: you thnk of ksynaptic?
[06:42] <MitchM> fritsch: come again?
[06:42] <ballchalk> WHOA
[06:42] <fritsch> MitchM: ah okay, got it ;-)
[06:42] <ballchalk> ok now i'm gettin gsomewhere
[06:42] <ballchalk> i got 6 orphans
[06:42] <MitchM> fritsch: hah k =)
[06:42] <fdoving> openvpn is so cool.
[06:42] <ballchalk> no wonder i can't play fraunhofer mp3s
[06:42] <fritsch> dvd: look here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=160209
[06:42] <ballchalk> hmmmmmmmmmmm
[06:43] <dvd> fritsch: i tried that out. but it said i cant save it. it says something about  write access
[06:43] <ballchalk> brb
[06:43] <ballchalk> gotta park my car
[06:43] <MitchM> dvd: open the file as root
[06:43] <MitchM> or use sudo nano (filename)
[06:43] <cosma> sorry, do you know why the shell cannot find gcc? I've installed the gcc-4.0, gcc-4,.
[06:43] <cosma> 0-base etc....
[06:43] <fritsch> cosma: which gcc
[06:44] <fritsch> cosma: "which gcc" ;-)
[06:44] <fritsch> cosma: its a command
[06:44] <fritsch> cosma: try: update-alternatives --config gcc
[06:44] <cosma> mmm... I've installed the "gcc" dependency package and now it works :)
[06:45] <cosma> again, tnx
[06:45] <dvd> how do i open the file as root
[06:45] <MitchM> use sudo
[06:45] <pierreth> kweather does not work on my system
[06:45] <MitchM> or su
[06:45] <MitchM> then root password
[06:45] <MitchM> then open the file
[06:46] <JohnFlux> MetaMorfoziS: that was my gf typing japanese hehe
[06:46] <Kiongku> Konbanwa
[06:46] <MetaMorfoziS> :))
[06:47] <MetaMorfoziS> You are ansvered fast:D
[06:47] <MetaMorfoziS> (i'm asked that about a half hour)
[06:47] <Kiongku> hey ppl.. what do u think about gentoo
[06:47] <MetaMorfoziS> hey Kiongku:)
[06:47] <Kiongku> hi meta
[06:48] <MetaMorfoziS> i think you are asking that in a wrong  place:)
[06:48] <HailandKill> I need help setting up a wireless network...
[06:48] <waylandbill> Kiongku: not bad, but I have too little patience to compile KDE. :-D
[06:48] <Kiongku> waylandbill: lol?.. then what desktop it uses
[06:49] <waylandbill> Kiongku: whatever one you want to compile and install
[06:49] <dvd> lol. i still cant get inside . what exactly is the command to go inside the root
[06:49] <HailandKill> Do I configure it just like a wired one in etc/network/interfaces?
[06:49] <Kiongku> dvd: sudo su
[06:50] <GameCat> hi - can anyone help me with instructions for adding a new soundcard (soundblaster) to a working dapper?
[06:51] <ballchalk> cosma how do you find the gcc dependency package?
[06:51] <Kiongku> GameCat: ALSA should work with it right?
[06:51] <ballchalk> my gcc won't work either
[06:51] <GameCat> Kiongku: no idea
[06:51] <HailandKill> Seriously, it's driving me insane. Every website says something different.. does no one have a wireless network?
[06:51] <fritsch> ballchalk: apt-get install gcc
[06:51] <Kiongku> ballchalk: apt-get -i build-essential
[06:52] <Kiongku> GameCat: i'm not sure but i think it should be good.. do a little search on net
[06:52] <apallo19> what's the name of the packlage that smbmount comes with?
[06:52] <MitchM> dvd: su
[06:52] <MitchM> dvd <root-password>
[06:52] <dvd> thanks
[06:52] <MitchM> yup
[06:53] <dr_willis> apallo19,  Samba i think.
[06:53] <ballchalk> fritsch: the base packages of gcc 3 and 4 are installed but the compiler themselves arent
[06:53] <ballchalk> is that what i need?
[06:53] <cosma> ballchalk: the "gcc" package seems to be the dependency package.. previusly I had installed the gcc-4.0 and gcc-4.0-base packages and some others
[06:53] <GameCat> Kiongku: how do I tell ALSA it's there? Will it detect it on first boot?
[06:53] <ballchalk> gcc 3.3 and 4 compilers?
[06:54] <fritsch> ballchalk: no, dont think so
[06:54] <fritsch> ballchalk: what says: gcc --version
[06:54] <Kiongku> GameCat: Dapper should have the ALSA drievrs by default
[06:54] <apallo19> thanks
[06:54] <ballchalk> gcc command doesn't exist
[06:54] <Kiongku> ballchalk: did u do apt-get -i build-essential ???
[06:54] <ballchalk> adept shows i got base of both 3.3 and 4 installed though
[06:54] <dvd> fritsch: i changed the value from "true" to "false" in xorg.conf            but, its still the same. i cant make it to disable tapping
[06:54] <GameCat> Kiongku: thanks, I guess I'll just have to try it then - it's not my machine so I'm a bit wary of experimenting :/
[06:55] <MitchM> dvd: try restarting your machine.
[06:55] <ballchalk> doing that now
[06:55] <ballchalk> hold on
[06:55] <MitchM> dvd: or at least your xserver
[06:55] <waylandbill> !b-e
[06:55] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:55] <dvd> ok, i'll restart
[06:55] <HailandKill> # ifconfig ath0 up makes the card flash it's lights and everything, so I assume breezy has some sort of native support?
[06:55] <ballchalk> what the..........
[06:55] <Kiongku> ballchalk: ?
[06:55] <ballchalk> apt-get -i build-essential doesn't work
[06:56] <ballchalk> i can do apt-get -i build-dep
[06:56] <Kiongku> ballchalk: did u enable all repositories?
[06:56] <ballchalk> but i haven't
[06:56] <sethk> ballchalk, you did apt-get update ?
[06:56] <ballchalk> yea i did uncommented all
[06:56] <Kiongku> update?
[06:56] <Kiongku> u need to update to get the headers
[06:57] <ballchalk> sethk: did the update
[06:57] <Kiongku> ballchalk: try again then
[06:57] <HailandKill> has anyone got a wireless connection on breezy?
[06:57] <ballchalk> but seems like apt-get doesn't know what -i build-essential means
[06:58] <Kiongku> HailandKill: using dapper.. no idea
[06:58] <muut> hitto teidn kanssanne.
[06:58] <Kiongku> !info build-essential
[06:58] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[06:58] <muut> Nrtit!!!
[06:58] <Kiongku> ballchalk: then do apt-get install build-essential
[06:58] <ballchalk> ok
[06:59] <waylandbill> I was wondering what -i was for. wasn't in the man page.
[06:59] <HailandKill> would the assumption that wireless support on dapper is better than breezy be correct?
[06:59] <ballchalk> woops maybe i had adept running
[06:59] <ballchalk> hold on
[06:59] <Kiongku> ballchalk: use adept directly then XD.. same thing
[06:59] <dr_willis> HailandKill,  i think so.
[06:59] <Kiongku> dr_willis: or else we would never need to have a better version if nothing gets better
[07:00] <ballchalk> Kiongku: ok works now
[07:00] <nagyv> !compiz > nagyv
[07:00] <dr_willis> Kiongku,  :P well we all know that MS-Office gets worse every new release4.
[07:00] <dr_willis> :P
[07:00] <Kiongku> ballchalk: hehe
[07:00] <GameCat> I'm off - thanks for the advice Kiongku
[07:00] <ballchalk> so this option for build-essential is only for the compilers?
[07:00] <Kiongku> dr_willis: who said better for customer always.. MS does it better for himself
[07:00] <Vainaja> jeejee
[07:00] <Vainaja> im dead.
[07:01] <Kiongku> GameCat: np i dunt have soundblaster but i think alsa should do it.. u can check out if i'm right
[07:01] <dr_willis> ballchalk,  it installs the core tools needed to compile apps.
[07:01] <Vainaja> nerds.
[07:01] <dvd> hmm its still not working. i still have the tapping
[07:01] <apallo19> i'm trying to mount my windows shares, and it's telling me that the mount folders (which i created arent there)
[07:01] <ballchalk> dr_willis: oh
[07:01] <dr_willis> apallo19,  then make the directories like its hinting at. :P
[07:01] <apallo19> this is frusturating
[07:01] <apallo19> i did
[07:01] <dr_willis> you SURE ya got the names right?
[07:01] <waylandbill> ballchalk: it's not just to compile. It has stuff to make debian packages too
[07:01] <apallo19> sorry, miss spoke
[07:01] <dr_willis> apallo19,  you sure the rest of the command is right. :P
[07:02] <hectorx> do anyone know howto access serial port with linux assembly?
[07:02] <ballchalk> thanks works now
[07:02] <Kiongku> waylandbill: and its the best solution.. never have to worry again
[07:02] <Upt-k-install> can I do a kubuntu install from the alternate cd without a working network connection?
[07:02] <Kiongku> ballchalk: ur welcome
[07:02] <apallo19> well, the command line one works, but my fstab entries dont
[07:02] <dr_willis> Upt-k-install,  yes.
[07:02] <ballchalk> Kiongku: thanks
[07:02] <Kiongku> Upt-k-install: should be
[07:02] <Upt-k-install> thx, first good news today
[07:02] <ballchalk> i thought if i do apt-get then adept can't keep a track of it won't it?
[07:03] <Kiongku> ballchalk: adept uses apt-get.. adept is an GUI interface to apt-get
[07:03] <ballchalk> o nevermind adept shows that changes has been made
[07:03] <ballchalk> yea
[07:03] <Kiongku> ballchalk: hehe.. bcoz apt-get is simplye the command code u perform while using adept
[07:04] <waylandbill> ballchalk: apt-get and therefore adept don't track dependencies for removal later, no
[07:04] <apallo19> is there like a special command that i need to use to make the folders mountable
[07:04] <dr_willis> linux is all about legos and Layers. :P
[07:04] <ballchalk> yea didn't know there was a front end
[07:04] <apallo19> ?
[07:04] <dr_willis> apallo19,  No.
[07:04] <Kiongku> waylandbill: u got sypnatic
[07:04] <ballchalk> oh
[07:04] <dr_willis> apallo19,  i would guess you got the fstab line inforrect.
[07:04] <ballchalk> synaptic same for apt-get?
[07:04] <killerMonkey> hi
[07:04] <Kiongku> dr_willis: mwahha.. i will make a pirate and ship linux then
[07:04] <dr_willis> http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[07:04] <waylandbill> Kiongku: no. I don't have synaptic. that's just a frontend to apt-get too, right?
[07:04] <killerMonkey> synaptic is only a frontend for apt-get
[07:05] <Kiongku> ballchalk: synaptic is the ubuntu gnome application for adept
[07:05] <dr_willis> Life is a front end  :)
[07:05] <killerMonkey> jojo
[07:05] <killerMonkey> synaptic = gtk adept = qt
[07:05] <waylandbill> dr_willis: lol
[07:05] <ballchalk> ohhh
[07:05] <Kiongku> synaptic can remove the dependencies a+ over adept
[07:05] <Kiongku> i use synaptic
[07:05] <killerMonkey> i use apt-get
[07:06] <ballchalk> this is confusing when u have many things that do the same thing
[07:06] <Kyral_Laptop> CLI FTW
[07:06] <Kiongku> killerMonkey: XD i can use it too
[07:06] <killerMonkey> alright
[07:06] <waylandbill> Kiongku: oh. didn't know synaptic did that. I use aptitude myself.
[07:06] <Kiongku> waylandbill: hehe
[07:06] <killerMonkey> yes thats nice when you don't have x11 stuff working
[07:06] <qadesh> fritsch ?
[07:07] <fritsch> qadesh: -> window ... ncurses are next
[07:07] <waylandbill> ballchalk: that's the joy of linux. so may tools for you to pick your own poison. :-D
[07:07] <qadesh> [505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[07:07] <Kiongku> killerMonkey: as long as u know what ur doing.. u should not run into any trouble
[07:07] <ballchalk> heh
[07:07] <fritsch> qadesh: please register
[07:07] <Kiongku> waylandbill: a lot of flavours :p
[07:07] <killerMonkey> mmh
[07:07] <fritsch> qadesh: or confirm login, look on the "freenode" tab
[07:07] <qadesh> it's allready registered by me ?!!!
[07:07] <dr_willis_> My **@* isp is really starting to annoy me.
[07:08] <ballchalk> Kiongku: how does synaptic remove dependencies?
[07:08] <killerMonkey> check the sources
[07:08] <fritsch> qadesh: no you have to identify
[07:08] <killerMonkey> lcu
[07:08] <fritsch> qadesh: /msg NickServ IDENTIFY
[07:09] <Kiongku> ballchalk: its automatically done by the program
[07:09] <waylandbill> Kiongku: does it keep it's own cache like aptitude?
[07:10] <Kiongku> waylandbill: what u mean by cache?
[07:10] <ballchalk> oh
[07:10] <stray77> walylandbill, no
[07:11] <Kiongku> stray77: yo stray ^^
[07:11] <stray77> if you used aptitude to install, use aptitude to remove.
[07:11] <stray77> yo Kiongku
[07:12] <waylandbill> stray77: right, I know cause it tracks what it installed. I meant if synaptic had a similar mechanism for determining what to remove.
[07:12] <Kiongku> stray77: u know how to run an autoscript that needs root access?
[07:12] <stray77> waylandbill, i dont think so
[07:13] <apallo19> why is the folder i just created not visible in konqurer?
[07:14] <ballchalk> ok done
[07:14] <ballchalk> waylandbill: hey does ur computer play mp3s?
[07:14] <stray77> Kiongku, dunno, sry.
[07:15] <ballchalk> waylandbill: i got w32codecs listed and an orphan
[07:15] <Kiongku> stray77: nvm
[07:15] <ballchalk> how do i use it?
[07:15] <feloness>  29 check it http://www.goolook.ru/?ref_id=11389
[07:15] <waylandbill>  ballchalk: I installed mp3 support at home, not here
[07:15] <ballchalk> oh
[07:16] <waylandbill> I hardly ever listen to mp3's regardless.
[07:16] <nagyv> what is preferred way to install the proprietary ATi drivers? by hand or using easyubuntu?
[07:17] <Kiongku> ballchalk: probably u need libxine-extracodecs
[07:17] <waylandbill> nagyv: the easy ubuntu did just fine last I used it. I think it just enables the repo and apt-gets it anyway.
[07:18] <ballchalk> Kiongku: yea i got that installed and it's not an orphan but just dont know why amarok wont play
[07:18] <dr_willis_> easy ubuntu did not work for me..  i just followed the !ati wiki page
[07:18] <ballchalk> i got 6 orphans that i need to make work so i can listen to mp3s
[07:19] <ballchalk> how do i set my computer to ues those i dunno
[07:19] <Kiongku> ballchalk: hmm u using xine?
[07:20] <ballchalk> Kiongku: xine gui?
[07:20] <ballchalk> i got xine engine i think
[07:20] <Kiongku> ballchalk: i mean the xine engine
[07:20] <ballchalk> i got xine engine for both kaffiene and amarok
[07:21] <nagyv> waylandbill: and after the install should I reboot or is it enough to restart kdm?
[07:21] <Kiongku> ballchalk: strange.. working good for me
[07:21] <waylandbill> nagyv: restart the x server (ctrl-alt-bspace) should do fine.
[07:22] <ballchalk> i dunno
[07:22] <waylandbill> hmm.. hopefully he saved his work first. :-D
[07:22] <stef_> is there a way to install ubuntu on a 1gb partition? the graphical installer says the partition should be at least 2.4 GB
[07:23] <nagyv> waylandbill: alright I restarted it, now how can I check wheather it is in use and properly configured?
[07:25] <Kiongku> stef_ i think the installer is right
[07:26] <Kiongku> stef_: u will not get much from 1 gb.. what the heck is 1 gb now o0.. cant u do better?
[07:26] <Rodil> hi, I just installed kubuntu for the first time and am having problems with the modem not working.  I don't think it's being detected at all, its an rj11 modem in a laptop, any ideas?
[07:26] <Kiongku> Rodil: did u check the net if ur modem requires special drivers?
[07:26] <bigbill52a> if anyone wants to see my kdmrc that pretty much restores the log in screen to debian...see #flood...make a backup copy to kdmrc before making changes
[07:26] <waylandbill> nagyv: it should tell in the control center somewhere I think
[07:26] <stef_> Kiongku: i have a 60gb ibook. i can't spare more than 1gb
[07:27] <Kiongku> stef_: heh lol?.. well i recommend a 10 gb partition for linux.
[07:27] <Rodil> I don't know the specifics on the modem before I started all this, any way to get that info now?
[07:27] <Kiongku> stef_: i have really no idea if can compact it to that size
[07:27] <stef_> Kiongku: okay thanks
[07:27] <shreddy>  7 test it http://www.goolook.ru/?ref_id=11389
[07:27] <Kiongku> Rodil: whats the specs of ur modem according to windows? to a net search
[07:28] <Rodil> Kio:I went all out and was trying for just kubuntu on the system and didnt check the specs of the modem before I wiped windows. :(
[07:28] <Kiongku> stef_: sorry i cant help.. may be others can
[07:29] <Kiongku> Rodil: how ur running then?
[07:29] <DocTomoe> Rodil: what model is your laptop?
[07:29] <Rodil> I'm on my desktop right now... the laptop is a gateway mx6214
[07:30] <tobias____> I hate windows!
[07:30] <tobias____> really really do
[07:30] <ballchalk> what is gstreamer ugly set?
[07:30] <Rodil> only info I have found says its a '56k ITU V.92 ready fax/modem'  no info on make or model
[07:30] <ballchalk> and bad multiverse?
[07:31] <tobias____> i got to linuxify the independent youth house here in trondheim so i can print my flyers with out hassle!
[07:31] <Kiongku> 1 RJ-11 (modem)
[07:31] <stef_> so there's no way to trick the ubuntu desktop CD into letting me install a base system onto a 1gb drive?
[07:31] <Kiongku> Rodil: its a dial up modem?
[07:32] <Rodil> yep
[07:32] <MitchM> stef_ im sure there is some boot option you can put in... did you google it?
[07:33] <Kiongku> Rodil: did u try KPPP?
[07:33] <stef_> mitchm: i did, couldnt find anything useful
[07:33] <Kiongku> stef_: anyway u need a swap file too.. so it will be 1 gb + (swap file usually the amount of ram u have)
[07:34] <stef_> okay
[07:34] <Rodil> yeah, problem with kppp is that it needs a port address and its one of those built into the motherboard bits, thats what RJ-11 is I think.  anyways, no matter which port setting I try in Kppp it comes up as 'modem is busy'
[07:35] <Kiongku> Rodil: is ur laptop running next to u?
[07:35] <Rodil> Kio: yep
[07:37] <Kiongku> Rodil: http://www.atnf.csiro.au/people/Chris.Phillips/Dell_Inspiron_1100.html take a look at this
[07:37] <Kiongku> may provide some clues
[07:37] <Kyral_Laptop> 1100 eh
[07:37] <cannonball> Is there any official statements anyway (Debian or Ubuntu or Kubuntu) that talks about why there is a 127.0.1.1 entry in /etc/hosts (I'm not complaining, I can see the utility, but was looking for authoritative answers as to why it's there).
[07:37] <Kyral_Laptop> so I'm not the only one with one still
[07:37] <Kyral_Laptop> 127.0.0.1?
[07:37] <Kyral_Laptop> Dude, thats loopback :P
[07:38] <Kyral_Laptop> its yourself
[07:38] <DocTomoe> cannonball: I do not have a 127.0.1.1 ?
[07:38] <Kyral_Laptop> Its needed
[07:38] <cannonball> No, that's localhost.  There's also a 127.0.1.1 entry.
[07:38] <Kyral_Laptop> Dunno I never saw hat entry
[07:38] <DocTomoe> cannonball: negative, cannot confirm
[07:39] <cannonball> Both I and my coworker have it on our laptops that we just did a fresh install of kubuntu.  Could be a laptop special config?  (since network isn't always connected, give it a fighting chance of resolving stuff without timeouts due to missing dns servers?)
[07:39] <cannonball> s/stuff/itself/
[07:40] <Kiongku> cannonball: i think if the network is not connected.. the connect does a loopback to ur pc.. hence the 127.0.0.1
[07:40] <Kyral_Laptop> the loopback is ALWAYS connected
[07:40] <Kyral_Laptop> its highly useful
[07:41] <DocTomoe> cannonball: Maybe that's really a phenomeon on your machines. I do not have it on my Acer, tought. Maybe it has somewhat connected to some occult network device?
[07:41] <DocTomoe> Kyral_Laptop: he does not speak about loopback.
[07:41] <Kyral_Laptop> DocTomoe: someoen else did :P
[07:41] <cannonball> Kyral_Laptop: yes, hence my suspicion that 127.0.1.1 is some special laptop config to handle those nonconnected times, but was looking for documentation somewhere that studies its effects (or reasoning).
[07:42] <Kyral_Laptop> cannonball: what model of lappy?
[07:42] <cannonball> DocTomoe: It is the loopback technically since the netmask is /8.
[07:42] <DocTomoe> cannonball: basically, yes.
[07:42] <cannonball> Kyral_Laptop: ASL LT320, it's old, P3 750.
[07:42] <Kyral_Laptop> ah
[07:43] <cannonball> I'm googling for it now, so if I find anything definitive, I'll report back.
[07:43] <Kyral_Laptop> 127.0.1.1 might be /dev/loop or something
[07:43] <apallo19> this just isnt working....
[07:44] <apallo19> i do all the steps to mount a network share, and it still keeps failing
[07:44] <apallo19> i must be missing somethig
[07:44] <utricul>  6 check this http://www.goolook.ru/?ref_id=11389
[07:45] <cannonball> Found it:  http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2005/06/msg01047.html
[07:48] <menta> hey there
[07:48] <menta> how can i change languages in kubuntu ?
[07:48] <menta> i added the language that i want, but then ?
[07:49] <ballchalk> does anyone know if amarok uses gstreamer plugins?
[07:49] <Kyral_Laptop> ballchalk: it should accept them
[07:49] <fritsch> ballchalk: no! it does not
[07:49] <fritsch> ballchalk: cannot find the changelog anymore
[07:49] <Kyral_Laptop> ballchalk: apt-cache search amarok | grep gstreamer
[07:49] <fritsch> ballchalk: ah wait! 1.3.9 still uses
[07:49] <fritsch> ballchalk: but 1.4.1 only suppors xine
[07:49] <Kyral_Laptop> why not just use good old Xine
[07:49] <draik> I am trying to run Adept Updater, but I get this error 'Su returned with an error'
[07:49] <draik> any ideas?
[07:49] <Kyral_Laptop> draik: its a bug lol
[07:49] <Kyral_Laptop> file it on Launchpad
[07:49] <cannonball> Kyral_Laptop: Oddly enough, Windows seems to do the same thing (0.1 for localhost and 1.1 for machinename) in its hosts file.
[07:50] <Kyral_Laptop> draik: for the time being use Apt-Get in the console to upgrade
[07:50] <menta> any idea how do i change languages ? :/
[07:50] <fritsch> draik: open a terminal and do: sudo apt-get -f install
[07:50] <fritsch> draik: and have a look
[07:50] <fritsch> draik: what it says
[07:50] <apallo19> has anyone successfully mounted a windows network share?
[07:50] <Kyral_Laptop> fritsch: the problem was that Adept was trying to execute "su" instead of "sudo"
[07:51] <Kiongku> menta: system settings > regional and accessibility > regional /language
[07:51] <draik> fritsch, 'sudo: unable to lookup Matrix via gethostbyname()'
[07:51] <menta> is there a shortcut for that ?
[07:51] <Kyral_Laptop> draik: did you change your hostname recently?
[07:51] <menta> like shift alt in windows ?
[07:51] <Kiongku> menta: its just a couple of clicks XD..
[07:52] <draik> Kyral_Laptop, nope. Haven't changed anything like that
[07:52] <menta> i see
[07:52] <Kyral_Laptop> draik: hmm, check /etc/hosts /etc/hostname, etc
[07:52] <ballchalk> fritsch: i just did the apt-cache search and it foudn nothing
[07:52] <draik> Matrix has been the hostname I've had since the initial install
[07:52] <Kyral_Laptop> draik: make sure they ALL agree
[07:52] <Kyral_Laptop> draik: but since you cannot get to root, you are gonna have to pull a Rescue Mode or LiveCD
[07:52] <fritsch> ballchalk: sudo apt-get update
[07:52] <ballchalk> oh yea forgot
[07:52] <fritsch> ballchalk: apt-cache search "packagename"
[07:52] <ballchalk> holdon
[07:54] <ballchalk> fritsch: same thing nothing
[07:54] <fritsch> !pastebin > ballchalk
[07:54] <fritsch> ballchalk: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in the pastebin
[07:55] <cosma> what a mess.. I can't get wireless RT73 driver module to compile... :|
[07:55] <draik> Kyral_Laptop, what am I checking for
[07:56] <Kyral_Laptop> draik: to make sure the hostname "Matrix" is set in everywhere
[07:56] <ballchalk> fritsch: how do i post in pastebin?
[07:56] <Kyral_Laptop> draik: you may have to man getbyhostname to find out what files it references
[07:56] <ballchalk> !pastebin >ballchalk
[07:56] <pete___> I found something about kubuntu that I like!
[07:57] <draik> The /etc/hostname file only says 'Matrix'
[07:57] <pete___> When you maximize windows, the window border is not visible, how do I set up KDE to do that in other distro's?  (where is the KDE option for this?)
[07:57] <draik> The /etc/hosts says 'enzo-laptop'
[07:58] <ballchalk> got it
[07:58] <ballchalk> !pastebin > fritsch
[07:59] <nagyv> I would like to set up 3D acceleration with an ATi M-Radeon 9600. Before I was able to get it with the radeon driver, but the final xorg.conf is a huge mess. Could someone help me?
[07:59] <pete___> just install fglrx
[07:59] <ballchalk> fritsch: did u ge tit/
[07:59] <fritsch> pete___: no do not
[07:59] <pete___> I
[07:59] <pete___> I'm using fglrx right now
[07:59] <fritsch> ballchalk: no, you have to paste mi the link
[07:59] <pete___> its fine
[08:00] <fritsch> pete___: cool, it su nfree and ATI stops X devs to produce cool OSS drivers
[08:00] <pete___> on a mobile radeon 9600 too
[08:00] <qadesh> what is fglrx
[08:00] <fritsch> pete___: no base of support
[08:00] <draik> Kyral_Laptop, I did 'man getbyhostname' and got this error 'No manual entry for getbyhostname'
[08:00] <pete___> fritsch: I agree, but the OSS driver isn't as good
[08:00] <Kyral_Laptop> draik: ugh I know I have had this problem before
[08:01] <pete___> fritsch: do you use the radeon or ati driver?
[08:01] <Kyral_Laptop> draik: 'cept I keep forgetting how to solve it lol
[08:01] <draik> lol
[08:01] <nagyv> pete__: I have already tried it (with easyubuntu I installed xorg-driver-fglrx and fglrx-control, but the opengl screensavers didn't worked after (this is my 3d test, is it good for it?)
[08:02] <pete___> nagyv: I can't say
[08:02] <nagyv> pete__: and what would be the right way?
[08:02] <pete___> nagyv: well, I always have used fglrx with no real problems
[08:03] <pete___> nagyv: but if fritsch will help you with the radeon driver, I say go for it
[08:03] <nagyv> pete__: this means that if you set up an opengl screensaver it is not flickering?
[08:04] <ballchalk> !pastebin > ballchalk
[08:05] <ballchalk> !pastebin > ballchalkhm
[08:05] <MetaMorfoziS> re sorry, wtf is this? i'm disconencted...
[08:05] <ballchalk> i dsunno
[08:05] <Hawkwind> ballchalk: No bot at the moment due to a netsplit
[08:05] <MetaMorfoziS> okay , so i'm last saw your "yes, but better with"
[08:05] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^ i'M not alone
[08:05] <ballchalk> what is netsplit
[08:05] <MetaMorfoziS> hoho wrong channel
[08:05] <Hawkwind> ballchalk: Google.com and type   define:netsplit
[08:05] <nagyv> fritsch: could you then help me to set up the radeon driver with the mobility radeon 9600?
[08:06] <Alatriste__> HI
[08:06] <Alatriste__> i have a small problem with crontab an kcron
[08:06] <Alatriste__> i have programmed a task to an hour
[08:07] <fritsch> nagyv: you just have to make sure, that xorg uses "radeon" driver
[08:07] <Alatriste__> but when it's thah hour nothing happens (the command is "sudo shutdown -t3 now"
[08:07] <fritsch> nagyv: please pastebin the output of glxinfo
[08:08] <Alatriste> what is wrong with crontab??
[08:08] <nagyv> fritsch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20998
[08:08] <fritsch> nagyv: this is okay?!?
[08:09] <fritsch> nagyv: please do: glxgears -printfps
[08:09] <nagyv> fritsch: I think the same, but the fact is that it doesn't work well
[08:09] <fritsch> nagyv: what do you get?
[08:10] <nagyv> fritsch: 3 moving aaa (what is the english word, aha KDEs :) )
[08:10] <fritsch> nagyv: tell it in your langauge
[08:10] <fritsch> nagyv: ill look it up *g*
[08:10] <waspius> anyone know a system monitor ti use?
[08:10] <waspius> to
[08:10] <nagyv> fritsch: fogaskerk
[08:10] <ballchalk> oh i see
[08:10] <Kyral_Laptop> waspius: for?
[08:10] <fritsch> nagyv: *G* okay did not get it
[08:11] <unix_infidel> waspius: there's a gkrellm port for win32 if you can find it.
[08:11] <fritsch> nagyv: just tell me the numbers
[08:11] <waspius> Kyral_Laptop: to sho me cpu,memory etc
[08:11] <nagyv> fritsch: cog, gear
[08:11] <Kyral_Laptop> waspius: KSysguard
[08:11] <Kyral_Laptop> waspius: uuhh KSysmon...look on KDE-Apps.org for some
[08:11] <waspius> Kyral_Laptop: ok thanx
[08:12] <fritsch> nagyv: let it walk a bit, there ar coming numbers
[08:12] <fritsch> nagyv: glxgears -printfps
[08:12] <nagyv> fritsch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20999
[08:13] <nagyv> fritsch: this is what you wanted?
[08:13] <fritsch> nagyv: okay, there something is not! working
[08:13] <draik> Kyral_Laptop, I think I got it
[08:13] <apmyp> how to in konversation change codepage to cp1251?
[08:13] <draik> I'm rebooting and hoping I'm right
[08:13] <nagyv> fritsch: should I pastebin my xorg.conf?
[08:13] <fritsch> nagyv: yes
[08:13] <fritsch> nagyv: please do: sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri
[08:14] <Alatriste> i have a small problem with crontab an kcron
[08:14] <Alatriste> i have programmed a task to an hour
[08:14] <Alatriste> but when it's thah hour nothing happens (the command is "sudo shutdown -t3 now"
[08:14] <fritsch> nagyv: sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri
[08:16] <nagyv> fritsch: it was already installed
[08:17] <fritsch> nagyv: your xorg conf, please
[08:17] <fritsch> nagyv: did you mess around with some files?
[08:17] <draik> If I change my '/etc/hosts' file, would that not allow for me to go online?
[08:18] <nagyv> fritsch: with xorg.conf, but I have tried the original one, and I changed only one line ati->radeon
[08:18] <apmyp> how to in konversation change codepage to cp1251?
[08:18] <Upt-k-install> Do I have to use special options when trying to install on a sata hd?
[08:19] <nagyv> fritsch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21001
[08:19] <txx2> Hello. I'm having trouble with ndiswrapper. http://pastebin.com/771416
[08:19] <tsdgeos> no
[08:19] <cannonball> Upt-k-install: the sata controller needs to be recognized by the kernel and the proper module loaded.  After that it looks like any other scsi device.
[08:20] <cannonball> Upt-k-install: modification: the "installer" needs to reconize the sata controller.
[08:21] <Upt-k-install> I know that, the problem is: does it recognize the controller automatically or do I have to tell the installer before installing?
[08:22] <cannonball> Depends which sata controller you have.  I'm new to Kubuntu myself so I'm not sure what config file the installer uses to determine all that.
[08:22] <fritsch> nagyv: sorry, just a mom
[08:23] <nagyv> fritsch: I wait :)
[08:23] <fritsch> nagyv: you messed around a bit?
[08:23] <fritsch> nagyv: your config looks okay
[08:23] <nagyv> fritsch: I was precautious :)
[08:23] <fritsch> nagyv: are you member of the video group?
[08:24] <fritsch> nagyv: cat /etc/group |grep video
[08:24] <nagyv> fritsch: nope, what is the ... I check it now
[08:24] <draik> Kyral_Laptop, What happens when I change my /etc/hosts file? I changed it to reflect my hostname. I can't get my laptop to recognize the Ethernet adapter
[08:24] <nagyv> fritsch: I think I am
[08:24] <Upt-k-install> well, the hd is enlistes on wiki, so maybe it could work automatically, but it does not seem to
[08:25] <Kyral_Laptop> draik: its the ips that it uses for hostnames
[08:25] <Kyral_Laptop> or somesuch
[08:25] <draik> ips?
[08:25] <fritsch> nagyv: please look it up
[08:25] <Kyral_Laptop> IP Addresses
[08:26] <nagyv> fritsch: what to look up? this was the output: video:x:44:nagyv
[08:26] <fritsch> nagyv: please run:  export LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo
[08:26] <fritsch> nagyv: good
[08:26] <fritsch> nagyv: sorry export LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose
[08:26] <nagyv> fritsch: nothing happened
[08:26] <fritsch> nagyv: and after thtat. glxinfo
[08:26] <fritsch> please pastebin the whole
[08:27] <nagyv> fritsch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21004
[08:27] <draik> Kyral_Laptop, I wonder what's going on that it won't read it as it should. Everything is reading perfectly now, but it won't connect online (I am on my desktop, laptop is bugging)
[08:27] <Kyral_Laptop> draik: whats the problem exactly?
[08:28] <fritsch> nagyv: have it
[08:28] <fritsch> nagyv: libGL error: unable to find driver: r300_dri.so
[08:28] <nagyv> fritsch: and what is the solution? :) where can I get it?
[08:28] <fritsch> nagyv: sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri
[08:28] <draik> Kyral_laptop, I was originally getting 'Su returned with an error' and I didn't have a hostname coming up except when in konsole.
[08:29] <Kyral_Laptop> yah so now it no connect?
[08:29] <nagyv> fritsch: it's already installed (the newest version)
[08:29] <draik> Kyral_laptop, so I changed my /etc/hosts file to say 'Matrix' for my hostname instead of what was there before
[08:29] <txx2> Hello. How do I add a mount point in kwidisk?.. it's not able to see the hda3 disk and it's a normal ext3 file system
[08:29] <draik> Kyral_laptop, I rebooted, and now it won't connect to the net
[08:30] <fritsch> nagyv: sudo apt-get install libgl1-mea-dri --reinstall
[08:30] <Kyral_Laptop> draik: mine says "127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
[08:30] <waspius> i found some applets in kde-apps that show cpu,memory etc..but there is one for each..if i use them will it use alot of memory?
[08:30] <fritsch> nagyv: mmmh, i think you did sth. very "undebian" deleted some files *G* ?
[08:30] <draik> let me get you a pastebin for it
[08:30] <draik> !pastebin
[08:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:31] <Rodil> hmmm, installing something, it tells me to type 'su - root' which I do, then it asks for my password which I give, and then it says auth failure, my auth works fine with sudo commands, why isn't it working here?
[08:31] <Upt-k-install> Where can I get a really _good_ documentation for a alternative install(textbased)?
[08:31] <Kyral_Laptop> !sudo
[08:31] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:31] <nagyv> fritsch: nothing like that. As I said I tried easyubuntu's ATi install. When it didn't worked I checked the dpgk log and apt deleted the two installed packages. That's all!
[08:32] <nagyv> fritsch: after the reinstall an Alt+Ctrl+Backspace is enough?
[08:32] <fritsch> nagyv: we have it :-)
[08:32] <fritsch> nagyv: you just said it
[08:32] <nagyv> fritsch: what?
[08:32] <fritsch> nagyv: fglrx install "synmlinked" the libraries
[08:33] <nagyv> fritsch: aha, so what? :)
[08:33] <fritsch> nagyv: sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/libgl1*
[08:33] <waspius> anyone?
[08:33] <sms_> hello
[08:33] <nagyv> fritsch: and now the alt-ctr-back?
[08:34] <sms_> does anyone know how to get smb4k running? mounting alway's fails.
[08:34] <draik> Kyral_laptop, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21007
[08:34] <nagyv> sms_: I have used it half year ago, then I had to install some other samba files too, probably smbfs, or client or something like this
[08:35] <nagyv> sms_: it was still breezy
[08:35] <fritsch> nagyv: no
[08:35] <nagyv> fritsch: then what?
[08:35] <Kyral_Laptop> draik: I dunno....change it back
[08:35] <danish> what operating system do KDE developers use
[08:35] <fritsch> nagyv: just again glxgears -showfps?
[08:35] <Kyral_Laptop> danish: prolly Linux and the BSDs
[08:35] <fritsch> nagyv: sorry glxgears -printfps
[08:35] <danish> which flavor like debian fedora or which
[08:36] <Kyral_Laptop> danish: honestly does it matter? :P
[08:36] <nagyv> fritsch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21009
[08:37] <sms_> nagyv: smbfs is set to mount, and mounting with mount -t smbfs on the command line works.
[08:37] <Upt-k-install> Where can I get a really _good_ documentation for a alternative install(textbased)?
[08:37] <fritsch> nagyv: mom
[08:37] <nagyv> sms_: sorry, I am not an expert
[08:37] <Kyral_Laptop> Upt-k-install: the "alternate" install is basically the installer that was used in Breezy, Hoary, and Warty
[08:37] <nagyv> fritsch: what?
[08:37] <fritsch> nagyv: just wait, me reads
[08:37] <danish> uptk: I READ some on ubuntu.org
[08:37] <sms_> nagyv: on an actual debian etch it works in the same network without problems, i'll check the deps from the debian package, to see if something is missing.
[08:37] <sms_> nagyv: thanx for the hint
[08:38] <Kyral_Laptop> Its also basically Debian's installer
[08:38] <fritsch> nagyv: what says: dpkg -l |grep fglrx
[08:39] <nagyv> ii  xorg-driver-fglrx                      7.0.0-8.25.18+2.6.15.11-3               Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators
[08:39] <nagyv> fritsch:
[08:39] <fritsch> nagyv: sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:39] <fritsch> nagyv: sudo dpkg --purge xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:40] <Upt-k-install> taht does not change the fact, that I cannot find any documentation for installing kubuntu
[08:40] <nagyv> now the dpkg | grep was empty
[08:40] <fritsch> nagyv: sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/libgl1-mesa*
[08:40] <Upt-k-install> I only find docs for installing software
[08:41] <Kyral_Laptop> Upt-k-install: the Alternative Install is basically Debian's Installer
[08:41] <danish> upt-k-install: what kind of documents do u need. if u are a noob lie me try linuxcommand.org and tdlp.org
[08:41] <Kyral_Laptop> Upt-k-install: so read Debian's documentation
[08:41] <nagyv> fritsch: glxinfo at  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21010
[08:42] <Upt-k-install> I'm not really noob, the only thing I really need right how are bootoptions which help me to get my sata working
[08:42] <Kyral_Laptop> Upt-k-install: GRUB Supports SATA doesn't it?
[08:42] <nagyv> fritsch: I think it works now, glxgears gives cc 18000 frames / 5 sec, and even the screensaver is cool
[08:42] <Kyral_Laptop> Last I knew there are no issues booting from SATA
[08:42] <fritsch> nagyv: now glxgears -printfps
[08:42] <jujimufu> has anyone enabled dri (that is, to manage and have "direct rendering: Yes" in glxinfo) in kubuntu with an i915?
[08:42] <fritsch> nagyv: yes it does :-) i saw it
[08:42] <fritsch> nagyv: grats :-)
[08:42] <nagyv> fritsch: thx! :)
[08:43] <Upt-k-install> well apparently there are. my pc tried for about two hours to read my hd, and i cannot belief this is the way this should work
[08:43] <danish> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation try this i m not really sure it'll help
[08:43] <nagyv> fritsch: is it possible to use it with compiz? I would like to try it if yes. (after a bakcup)
[08:43] <fritsch> nagyv: mmmh yes it is
[08:43] <fritsch> nagyv: but a little buggy, as the whole compiz
[08:44] <fritsch> nagyv: fglrx would be better, but mmmh no go for me
[08:44] <Upt-k-install> thx danish, but i've been through that, and it didn't help
[08:44] <nagyv> fritsch: I know, but I have to try!
[08:45] <nagyv> fritsch: and would you recommend xgl or aiglx? according the wiki aiglx is better for oss drivers, but ATi
[08:46] <danish> upt-k-install: have u ruled out the problems with harddrive it self same thing happened to me i downloaded the software from manufacturer to scan it. the hard drive was damaged. windows just ignored the bad sectors so i didn't know until i put linux
[08:46] <fritsch> nagyv: i would not recommand one now
[08:46] <fritsch> nagyv: just wait
[08:46] <ballchalk> hello
[08:46] <fritsch> nagyv: you can install *g* but without "my" support
[08:46] <ballchalk> is there anyway how i can install amarok 1.4.1 through adept?
[08:47] <fritsch> ballchalk: yes
[08:47] <Upt-k-install> danish: I bought the pc just yesterday, and windows is already running
[08:47] <cannonball> Upt-k-install: if you mount the dvd iso and look in isolinux/isolinux.cfg, you'll see several options that the initial boot screen passes to the kernel/installer.
[08:47] <nagyv> fritsch: I am happy to use your time until now! :)
[08:47] <fritsch> ballchalk: www.kubuntu.org
[08:47] <Upt-k-install> so the hd can't be damaged, i suppose
[08:47] <fritsch> ballchalk: very on the bootom there is a link for amarok 1.4.1
[08:47] <danish> ballchalk: start adept and there is a search bar on top just type amarok and look for package
[08:47] <fritsch> ballchalk: just add the source line to /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:48] <fritsch> ballchalk: after that: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:48] <fritsch> ballchalk: done
[08:48] <Upt-k-install> cannonball, first I use a cd, second is this list equal to what the help screen offers?
[08:48] <cannonball> Yes.
[08:49] <fritsch> danish: yes, but he looks for 1.4 version
[08:49] <fritsch> danish: only 1.3.9 is in the default installation
[08:49] <danish> fritsch: srry i just found out that adept has 2.2
[08:50] <fritsch> danish: 2.2 :-)
[08:50] <fritsch> danish: no problem
[08:50] <ballchalk> fritsch: what line do i add to source.list?
[08:50] <dhq> how to disable people from stealing pictures from php and apache webserver sites
[08:50] <fritsch> ballchalk: hehe *G* you did not read, or?
[08:50] <fritsch> ballchalk: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141 dapper main
[08:50] <ballchalk> oh i did added that
[08:51] <fritsch> ballchalk: please whole!! line from [deb till main] 
[08:51] <Upt-k-install> cannonball,  then it won't help me either
[08:51] <ballchalk> brb
[08:51] <fritsch> ballchalk: done?
[08:51] <danish> fritsch: what does the "2:" stand for
[08:51] <cannonball> Upt-k-install: I'm looking in the squashfs filesystem that the installer uses trying to find the installer.
[08:51] <fritsch> danish: mmmh don`t know
[08:52] <fritsch> danish: but it is defenetily not the version
[08:52] <ballchalk> uhm hold on
[08:52] <danish> fritsch: if i have the gcc 4 can i remove the gcc 3
[08:52] <apmyp> how to in kopete change codepage from non-changebal Big5 to koi8r or cp1251 or utf8?
[08:52] <ballchalk> it tells me signatures can't be verified or something
[08:52] <ballchalk> i got hits tho
[08:53] <Heruka> Pairing problems with bluetooth ...kubuntu...any ideas for frustrated newbie?
[08:53] <ballchalk> waaaaaaaiiiit
[08:53] <ballchalk> geesze
[08:53] <ballchalk> i got adept open again
[08:53] <fritsch> ballchalk: what?
[08:53] <fritsch> ballchalk: tja ...
[08:53] <fritsch> mmh adept sucks anyway :-)
[08:53] <fritsch> too graphicall
[08:53] <fritsch> man uses apt (joking)
[08:54] <tomaczec> hi
[08:54] <ballchalk> fritsch: http://kubuntu.org line ........there's no key so i can't access that repository
[08:54] <fritsch> ballchalk: yes you can
[08:54] <D4rkly> what is port localhost:54822 used for can someone do a netstat -a and see if they have it aswell ?
[08:54] <fritsch> ballchalk: man, sometimes reading would be cool ;-) but uncle fritsch does it for you
[08:55] <fritsch> ballchalk: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[08:55] <ballchalk> alright
[08:55] <ballchalk> lemme see what to do then
[08:55] <fritsch> ballchalk: wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[08:55] <fritsch> ballchalk: sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[08:55] <danish> Please insert the disc labeled 'Kubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release amd64 (20060531)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[08:55] <fritsch> danish: do so
[08:56] <danish> fritsch: what about doing it from the web i am installing all the gcc packages
[08:56] <fritsch> danish: you have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:56] <ballchalk> fritsch: woops sorry man ahahah
[08:56] <ballchalk> it's right there
[08:56] <fritsch> danish: comment out your cd here
[08:56] <fritsch> danish: and perhaps comment in universe, multiverse if you are "just there"
[08:57] <fritsch> danish: after that sudo apt-get update ...
[08:57] <fritsch> danish: close adept before
[08:57] <danish> fritsch: thx i disabled the cdrom in repository wow i am learning so much
[08:58] <tomaczec> fritsch: just if you got time -> what's the diff w/ universe and multiverse?
[08:58] <fritsch> !universe
[08:58] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:59] <fritsch> tomaczec: just to read some stuff above?
[08:59] <fritsch> tomaczec: is this okay?
[08:59] <tomaczec> fritsch: yeah, thx.
[08:59] <fritsch> !universe > tomaczec
[09:00] <GreyRodil> I'm trying to install something and the instructions say to use 'su - root' but my access won't work for that command...
[09:01] <GreyRodil> it works fine for sudo commands...
[09:01] <fritsch> GreyRodil: use "sudo su" instead
[09:01] <GreyRodil> ahh, kk
[09:01] <tomaczec> fritsch: this bot was a bit rushing in (did not get warned, but ok to me ;-)
[09:01] <ubuntu> hey evreyone
[09:01] <ubuntu> i have a question
[09:01] <fritsch> hehe *G*
[09:01] <ubuntu> i am a first timer
[09:01] <fritsch> tomaczec: yes happened to me the first time, too
[09:02] <ubuntu> right now
[09:02] <ubuntu> i am running a live Ubuntu cd
[09:02] <fritsch> ubuntu please change your nickname with: /nick "name"
[09:02] <abattoir> ubuntu: cool :) . What's your question?
[09:02] <ubuntu> and i don't know how to see my files on the hard drives
[09:02] <fritsch> ubuntu: your files from windows?
[09:03] <geleven> so
[09:03] <geleven> i changed it
[09:03] <fritsch> geleven: cool ;-)
[09:03] <nick_> ok i have a static ip, installed without an internet connection, the installer disabled all my repos. quick fix?
[09:03] <geleven>  i don't know how to see my files on the hard drives
[09:03] <geleven> is the first time i am on Linux
[09:03] <fritsch> geleven: on the "house" symbol
[09:03] <west-en> fast answer: what is the partition manager in kubuntu called?
[09:03] <geleven> ?
[09:03] <fritsch> geleven: you can see this one?
[09:03] <fritsch> west-en: qtparted
[09:03] <geleven> yes
[09:03] <fritsch> west-en: me wants the first price
[09:04] <fritsch> geleven: now try to navigate to /media
[09:04] <fritsch> geleven: in there you sould see your windows partitions
[09:04] <west-en> nope i wrote qtparted in the console, but he don't find it
[09:04] <geleven> i write that in run command?
[09:04] <fritsch> west-en: you are running the live cd?
[09:04] <geleven> ?
[09:04] <west-en> no
[09:04] <fritsch> geleven: ah okay
[09:04] <nick_> ok i have a static ip, installed without an internet connection, the installer disabled all my repos. quick fix?
[09:05] <geleven> ok?
[09:05] <fritsch> geleven: do Run Command and type: /media ENTER
[09:05] <fritsch> west-en: you have dapper instelld=?
[09:05] <geleven> i did
[09:05] <fritsch> west-en: sudo apt-get install qtparted
[09:05] <fritsch> west-en: then you can run it
[09:05] <geleven> and is a root with all sorts
[09:05] <geleven> but no files
[09:05] <abattoir> geleven: try media:/ in the run command box
[09:06] <geleven> is sais this  i don't know how to see my files on the hard drives
[09:06] <geleven> wait
[09:06] <fritsch> abattoir: very good hint
[09:06] <geleven> mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[09:06] <abattoir> geleven: click ok
[09:06] <fritsch> geleven: first timer *g*
[09:06] <abattoir> fritsch: thanks :)
[09:06] <fritsch> geleven: ah okay (me does not know the graphical stuff ... debian, debian)
[09:06] <geleven> same thing
[09:07] <abattoir> geleven: ok, so you have only one partition?
[09:07] <west-en> THANKS! i installed it and qtparted, works fine!
[09:07] <fritsch> west-en: only! use it on umounted partitions
[09:07] <fritsch> and he was gone ... could not wait to loose his data ...
[09:07] <abattoir> heh
[09:08] <geleven> i se a root list with bin...and mnt
[09:08] <geleven> and i know that in mnt shoud be my files
[09:08] <geleven> but when i click it is none
[09:08] <fritsch> geleven: no
[09:08] <tomaczec> fritsch: west-en installed qtparted that fast... i guess he knows what he/she does. :)
[09:08] <fritsch> geleven: try /media
[09:08] <abattoir> geleven: in (k)ubuntu, your partitions are mounted in /media
[09:08] <fritsch> tomaczec: i told him the exact command
[09:08] <abattoir> geleven: but you havent answered my question... you have only one partition?
[09:08] <blackflag> Hello all
[09:08] <fritsch> tomaczec: he has just pastet i think
[09:09] <geleven> 2
[09:09] <Heruka> hi .. bluetooth pairing nightmare... many days..any suggestions
[09:09] <geleven> in media/:unionfs/media?
[09:09] <abattoir> geleven: ok, open up a terminal(konsole)
[09:09] <geleven> is nothing
[09:09] <tomaczec> fritsch: would you (as a a noob) ask for qtparted ?
[09:09] <geleven> k
[09:09] <fritsch> tomaczec: yes
[09:09] <fritsch> tomaczec: be cause i read of it
[09:09] <abattoir> geleven: enter 'sudo mkdir /media/hda1'
[09:09] <blackflag> can someon tell me what I have to do when I want to run a daemon with another user?
[09:10] <abattoir> geleven: w/o the quotes of course
[09:10] <ballchalk> fritsch: when i clicked on amarok it's still 1.3.9
[09:10] <fritsch> abattoir: wait?
[09:10] <fritsch> abattoir: using pmount for test could be better?
[09:10] <abattoir> fritsch: ok :)
[09:10] <fritsch> abattoir: pmount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[09:10] <Upt-k-install> ich mach net mich fertig, sondern das d?mliche betriebssystem
[09:10] <fritsch> abattoir: just for "testing"
[09:10] <tomaczec> fritsch: well, i he/she read about it... i hope he/she read about it in _whole_. not ya prob i feel.
[09:10] <fritsch> Upt-k-install: nicht aufregen
[09:10] <abattoir> fritsch: anyways, its just the live cd :)
[09:10] <Upt-k-install> my appologies, wrong window
[09:11] <fritsch> Upt-k-install: lol, tjaha ich habs verstanden
[09:11] <geleven> k
[09:11] <danish> how do i install KDEVELOP latest version
[09:11] <danish> adept doesn't show any packages at all
[09:11] <fritsch> danish: mmh latest is perhaps difficult
[09:11] <Upt-k-install> fritsch: I have spent more time with trying to install kubuntu than I need to install gentoo from a commandline
[09:11] <geleven> i did....
[09:11] <fritsch> danish: what says apt-cache show kdevelop
[09:11] <geleven> now waht?
[09:11] <abattoir> geleven: did 'pmount /dev/hda1 /mnt' ?
[09:11] <danish> fritsch: what about stable
[09:11] <draik> Kyral_Laptop, talk about unfortunate events
[09:11] <fritsch> Upt-k-install: mmmh sure?
[09:11] <Upt-k-install> and that is _really_ annoying
[09:11] <Upt-k-install> yes
[09:12] <fritsch> Upt-k-install: you could try the alternate installer
[09:12] <Upt-k-install> I have three gentoo systems running, I have been through that install really often
[09:12] <geleven> sais must not occur in label name
[09:12] <fritsch> danish: 3.3.4-0ubuntu1~dapper1 this version is in dapper
[09:12] <geleven> fritsch?
[09:12] <fritsch> geleven: ja?
[09:12] <geleven> sais must not occur in label name
[09:13] <geleven> i wrote your command
[09:13] <danish> i typed apt-cache show kdevelop it just went to the following prompt
[09:13] <fritsch> geleven: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[09:13] <Upt-k-install> I TRY the alternate installer, but every time it tries to read my physical volumes, it gets stuck. it tried nearly two hours before I stopped it last time
[09:13] <fritsch> geleven: this is an "EL" a small "EL" l
[09:13] <fritsch> geleven: fdisk -l /dev/hda
[09:13] <geleven> ok
[09:13] <fritsch> Upt-k-install: mmmh some screwed partitions?
[09:13] <geleven> i see the partisions
[09:13] <geleven> ntfs
[09:14] <fritsch> no problem
[09:14] <geleven> and the space
[09:14] <fritsch> geleven: pmount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[09:14] <ballchalk> helloo
[09:14] <danish> upt-k-install: could u change ur username i typed it in the console
[09:14] <Upt-k-install> no screwed partitions, I checked that from the windows, which is already running
[09:14] <danish> LOL
[09:14] <ballchalk> fritsch: did amarok -version and it said 1.4.1 but when i click on it it's still 1.3.9??
[09:15] <geleven> still the same error
[09:15] <danish> THX BETTER
[09:15] <fritsch> ballchalk: open a terminal
[09:15] <tomaczec> Upt-k-install: physical volumes -> means 'hard disks'?
[09:15] <fritsch> geleven: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[09:15] <ballchalk> its open
[09:15] <fritsch> geleven: "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt"
[09:15] <fritsch> geleven: whithin the ""
[09:15] <fritsch> ballchalk: sudo apt-get update
[09:15] <Un-punkt-tot> everything, that is physical and could cary data I believe... so yes I think it is harddisks
[09:16] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: windows is on the first parition?
[09:16] <geleven> it sais no such file or directory
[09:16] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: live cd is working?
[09:16] <Un-punkt-tot> tomaczec, I think whatever it is it should not take two hours
[09:16] <geleven> u askin me>?
[09:16] <ballchalk> fritsch: done
[09:16] <geleven> yes i am workin a live cd
[09:16] <fritsch> geleven: sudo mkdir -p /media/hda1
[09:16] <fritsch> ballchalk: sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:16] <Un-punkt-tot> fritsch, 1) yes 2) no, cupsd gets stuck, it simply stops doing anything
[09:16] <geleven> if is not installed on the system it could be possible for my files not to be mounted?
[09:16] <danish> fritsch: i got the taz.gz package for kdevelop what do i do now
[09:17] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: ah while installing
[09:17] <fritsch> danish: not good
[09:17] <Un-punkt-tot> yes
[09:17] <tomaczec> Un-punkt-tot: got a similiar prob w/ a broken installation cd rom.
[09:17] <ballchalk> fritsch: i upgraded through adept already after installing the key
[09:17] <ballchalk> i'll do it again
[09:17] <abattoir> geleven: nope, that is not the case... it should work
[09:17] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: you checked your cd drive?
[09:17] <ballchalk> fritsch: done nothing to upgrade
[09:17] <abattoir> geleven: create the directory and then try mounting to it
[09:17] <ballchalk> all 0's
[09:17] <geleven> i wrote that and nothing...another console line appeared
[09:17] <geleven> does it mena it did it?
[09:18] <Un-punkt-tot> fritsch I bought it yesterday, and all hardware is working really fine, as far as I see
[09:18] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: ah i have an idea
[09:18] <abattoir> geleven: ok, that's good, now do 'sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1'
[09:18] <danish> fritsch: how do i install kdevelop then
[09:18] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: try booting with the parameters: irqpoll routeirq=pci
[09:18] <fritsch> danish: sudo apt-get install kdevelop
[09:19] <abattoir> geleven: works?
[09:19] <geleven> it sais it's mounted on /mnt
[09:19] <fritsch> ballchalk: dpkg -l |grep amarok
[09:19] <geleven> already
[09:19] <Un-punkt-tot> what will that do?
[09:19] <abattoir> geleven: ok, then your partition is in /mnt
[09:19] <fritsch> geleven: hehe, then this worked before
[09:19] <geleven> i know that
[09:19] <abattoir> geleven: type that in the file manager
[09:19] <geleven> type what?
[09:19] <geleven> i could not see the files ion mnt before
[09:20] <abattoir> geleven: ok, open the Run command dialog, and type /mnt and press enter
[09:20] <ballchalk> fritsch: it shows me amarok , the amarok engine and the xine engine all 1.4.1
[09:20] <fritsch> ballchalk: cool
[09:20] <fritsch> ballchalk: you see, no 1.3.9
[09:20] <tomaczec> fritsch: would a boot param influence the installation of the system?
[09:20] <Un-punkt-tot> fritsch, what will those parameters change? and which install should work with them?
[09:20] <fritsch> ballchalk: now start amarok
[09:20] <geleven> it sais i don't have acces rights
[09:20] <geleven> come oin
[09:20] <fritsch> tomaczec: yes, the will change the kind of the kernel talks to the cdrom drive
[09:21] <danish> Reading package lists... Done
[09:21] <fritsch> tomaczec: there were some problems in the past with this
[09:21] <danish> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:21] <danish> Package kdevelop is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:21] <danish> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:21] <danish> is only available from another source
[09:21] <danish> However the following packages replace it:
[09:21] <danish>   kdesdk-scripts
[09:21] <danish> E: Package kdevelop has no installation candidate
[09:21] <ballchalk> what wierd
[09:21] <fritsch> danish: do not past
[09:21] <crimsun> it's kdevelop3, of course.
[09:21] <danish> fritsch: thats the message i got
[09:21] <danish> ok sorry
[09:21] <fritsch> danish: sorry sudo apt-get install kdevelop3
[09:21] <ballchalk> fritsch: thank you uncle fritsch it only works when you tell my computer what to do whats with that
[09:21] <ballchalk> hahaha
[09:22] <danish> E: Couldn't find package kdevelop3
[09:22] <GreyRodil> is there any way to update the package list without getting online?
[09:22] <ballchalk> faster than 1.3.9
[09:22] <crimsun> !info kdevelop3
[09:22] <ubotu> kdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB
[09:22] <crimsun> note the component.
[09:22] <fritsch> danish: you have to enable universe
[09:22] <fritsch> crimsun: thx
[09:23] <Un-punkt-tot> fritsch, what will those parameters change? and which install should work with them?
[09:23] <ballchalk> man
[09:23] <LeeJunFan> ugh, I hate fsck'ing a damn full terabyte partition.
[09:23] <GreyRodil> I'm working on a modem issue and a lot of the fixes that I've run across involve having the make command which I can't seem to get without updating my package list...
[09:23] <ballchalk> mp3 still don't work but streams work alot better
[09:24] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: these change the type of "talking" betwenn mainboard and cd rom drive
[09:24] <tomaczec> Un-punkt-tot: and fritsch already said this! ;)
[09:24] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: you could try install with the params: "noapic nolapi acpi=off routeirq=pci irqpoll"
[09:24] <danish> fritsch: thankx i found it in adep after doing universe and multiverse thx
[09:24] <draik> Kyral_Laptop, my adapter is what gave out on me. All fixed now. Thank you for your help
[09:24] <fritsch> danish: me has to ask an adept user
[09:25] <fritsch> danish: can you enable universe, multiverse in adept?
[09:25] <Un-punkt-tot> sorry, did not see it then
[09:26] <fritsch> danish: yes! this is working cool!
[09:26] <tomaczec> Un-punkt-tot: dont just look at what is addressed at you directly. other ppl may be involved in a discussion. no matter.
[09:26] <Un-punkt-tot> tomaczec, I am not in a chat for the first time, and I scanned what was written an did not see it, ok?
[09:26] <danish> fritsch i just clicked repository in from adept menu and then click enable and apply
[09:26] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: you dont live near me, or? so i come to you and help installing (nothing to do this eveing, wanted to go headbaning)
[09:27] <fritsch> danish: yes i saw, cool ... the graphic tools
[09:27] <danish> fritsch: 1 problem i can't find kdevelop in k menu do i have to restart
[09:27] <tomaczec> Un-punkt-tot: it's ok. as told -> no matter.
[09:28] <fritsch> danish: yes, this is a "smal bug" in kde version 3.5.2
[09:28] <fritsch> danish: you could upgrade to 3.5.4, but you can run it from console anyway
[09:28] <danish> fritsch: i have 3.3.2
[09:28] <fritsch> danish: kde version? klick in Konversation on "help" then on "about kde"
[09:29] <fritsch> danish: what is written there?
[09:29] <fritsch> danish: perhaps kdevelop 3.3..2 but not the desktop environment
[09:29] <danish> fritsch: oooooooooo i though u meant  kdevelop
[09:29] <fritsch> danish: what version? (me wants to sell 3.5.4)
[09:30] <tomaczec> fritsch: i know it was a typo... but it's nice to know that you go 'to ban your head'. ;)
[09:30] <danish> it is 3.5.2
[09:30] <danish> g2g fritsch thx for help
[09:30] <fritsch> tomaczec: hehe, i thouht this too after wrting and found it jokey
[09:30] <danish> fritsch: how do i add u to friends
[09:30] <fritsch> danish: mmmh, dont know?
[09:31] <danish> k bye
[09:31] <fritsch> danish: bye!
[09:31] <fritsch> danish: much fun
[09:31] <fritsch> danish: was nice to help
[09:31] <fritsch> so guys, what to do?
[09:31] <fritsch> nobody has a question
[09:32] <fritsch> so i go head banging alone :-)
[09:32] <Un-punkt-tot> I am sure to find a new one any minute :(
[09:32] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: could you try with your old cd drive=
[09:33] <Un-punkt-tot> unfortunately not, its broken
[09:33] <GreyRodil> is there any way to update the package list without getting online?
[09:33] <tomaczec> fritsch: i saw you here 2 times... you deserve a time off. even, to ban your head for some hours. ;-))
[09:33] <Un-punkt-tot> but I am not finished trying the bootoptions you gave me
[09:34] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: please try all of them at once :-)
[09:34] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: no joke
[09:35] <Un-punkt-tot> thats what I am doing, was clear that I should not try them single
[09:35] <fritsch> okay
[09:35] <nick_> my dual monitors don't work
[09:35] <fritsch> nick_: these kind of setups i dont like *g*
[09:35] <fritsch> nick_: you want to clone them?
[09:36] <thompa> im wondering if its possible to install a new kernel like the one edgy has like 2.6.17-5-amd64-generic?
[09:36] <fritsch> nick_: or on every one another picture, being able to move throuh?
[09:36] <fritsch> thompa: you could try to rebuild
[09:36] <nick_> move through
[09:36] <fritsch> thompa: but dapper udev is not the newest ...
[09:36] <nick_> I want one for code and one for product
[09:37] <fritsch> nick_: okay, what is your graphics card?
[09:37] <thompa> fritsch: i know, i tested edgy and its really fast
[09:37] <fritsch> thompa: just compiled a vanilla kernel 2.6.17.8 on dapper some minutes before, the person could boot up just fine
[09:38] <fritsch> thompa: but not only chaning kernel brings speed
[09:38] <fritsch> thompa: kernel is not such a big factor at last
[09:38] <ballchalk> brb
[09:39] <thompa> fritsch: do you mean a kernel from kernel.org
[09:40] <fritsch> thompa: yes
[09:40] <fritsch> thompa: just build with ubuntu config ... for hardware testing
[09:40] <nick_> fritsch: nvidia
[09:40] <nick_> 6600
[09:41] <fritsch> nick_: you use the binary drivers?
[09:41] <thompa> fritsch: i may try it, thanks. edgy booted so fast unfortunately no kubuntu
[09:41] <fritsch> nick_: 3d hardware acceleartion?
[09:41] <nick_> i don't know
[09:41] <fritsch> thompa: mmmh, perhaups the use now extensive preloading
[09:41] <fritsch> nick_: open a terminal, do: "lsmod |grep nvidia"
[09:41] <thompa> fritsch: boot was about 20 seconds
[09:41] <fritsch> nick_: without the ""
[09:42] <thompa> to login
[09:42] <fritsch> thompa: hehe *G* they hast disabled the default filesystem check
[09:42] <fritsch> thompa: and finished *g*
[09:42] <thompa> oh
[09:42] <fritsch> thompa: sorry, not correct defenetily
[09:42] <nick_> nvidia               4550772  12
[09:42] <thompa> fritsch: so maybe its temporary for developers
[09:43] <fritsch> thompa: this was disturbing in dapper ... the always check whole fat drives
[09:43] <fritsch> nick_: okay
[09:43] <fritsch> nick_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[09:43] <fritsch> nick_: NO!!! stop
[09:43] <fritsch> nick_: STOP
[09:44] <fritsch> nick_: soory! broken universe package
[09:44] <nick_> ok
[09:44] <fritsch> nick_: puuuh
[09:44] <nick_> yea
[09:44] <nick_> i did a apt-get isntall nvidia-xlg before i cam here
[09:44] <fritsch> nick_: try this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27871
[09:45] <fritsch> nick_: seems very easy
[09:45] <nick_> fritsch: ok thanks i'll give it a whurl
[09:45] <tomaczec> fritsch: you take me wonders! how could you realize that fast that a universe package is broken?
[09:46] <fritsch> tomaczec: i tried to install it myself
[09:46] <tomaczec> fritsch: in a sec?
[09:46] <fritsch> tomaczec: and it wanted to remove nvidia-glx
[09:46] <fritsch> tomaczec: yes ;-)
[09:47] <tomaczec> fritsch: does not decrease my level of wondering. :)
[09:49] <tomaczec> fritsch: you give here answers to the questions of  a couple of ppls, in another frame you do a 'apt-get install' and realize an error... who you are?
[09:49] <fritsch> tomaczec: mmmh just used debian very long time
[09:50] <fritsch> tomaczec: and as a user a had the same problems, so sometimes know what to do
[09:50] <tomaczec> fritsch: well, i switched from Debian to Kubuntu also...
[09:50] <tomaczec> s/switched/switching/
[09:50] <fritsch> tomaczec: me 2, 2 times
[09:51] <fritsch> tomaczec: today i had to install a cool old Duron 850 with debian sarge
[09:51] <fritsch> tomaczec: sarge rocks, it works no probs
[09:51] <fritsch> tomaczec: but it is so old now ... uargh *g*
[09:51] <fritsch> tomaczec: and unstable, made my friends very upset with me ... so now kubuntu
[09:51] <fritsch> tomaczec: debian unstable : every dist-upgrade a new world
[09:52] <theine> fritsch: that's what I like about it
[09:52] <tomaczec> fritsch: are you involved in this NUN (just read about it today)?
[09:52] <fritsch> theine: me was so too, but now i have to work with my system
[09:52] <fritsch> theine: can`t break my kde for 3 weeks
[09:52] <fritsch> theine: or have vim or german language support broken for 3 weeks
[09:53] <fritsch> theine: or no firefox locale support for over 3 months ...
[09:53] <theine> fritsch: well, it hasn't been that bad for me since I switched to unstable
[09:53] <fritsch> theine: yes, if you are english native speaker -> less problems in usability
[09:53] <ryan> howdy
[09:53] <theine> fritsch: ...which was a month ago so I don't have very good statistics...
[09:54] <fritsch> theine: me at 23:30 always did a dist-upgrade and was llooking forware ... what weill be comming *G*
[09:54] <[GuS] > hello there!!
[09:54] <ryan> i just started using kubuntu a few months ago
[09:54] <fritsch> theine: i build nearly every git kernel earlier this year *g*
[09:54] <ryan> hi gus
[09:54] <fritsch> hi
[09:54] <tomaczec> fritsch: are you involved in this NUN (just read about it today)?
[09:54] <[GuS] > i have one question... there is a problem in Kaffeine with video controls? i change those and has no effect
[09:54] <fritsch> tomaczec: what is NUN? soory dont know
[09:54] <[GuS] > hi ryan
[09:54] <ryan> this is the first time i have ever used IRC
[09:54] <theine> fritsch: actually, unstable doesn't really boot for me right now, so I guess that proves your point
[09:55] <fritsch> theine: ah yes, the upgrade from tonight (kde stuff etc. was broken)
[09:55] <[GuS] > i want to change bright for example and has no effect
[09:55] <fritsch> theine: i am chatting with a friend to repair it ... just now
[09:55] <[GuS] > this happen with every Kubuntu dapper instalation i have
[09:55] <Un-punkt-tot> sorry fritsch, but it does not seem to have any effect
[09:55] <tomaczec> fritsch: new users network. i thought you are a guy who is part of it. as said, just read about it today. goggle for 'ubuntu nun'.
[09:55] <ryan> what do you mean as in bright?
[09:55] <ryan> gus?
[09:56] <fritsch> tomaczec: ah now, me is not part ... mmh good idea
[09:56] <theine> fritsch: it's much more serious than a broken KDE I'm afraid: if I boot into unstable, I'm thrown into runlevel 1 right away for maintainance
[09:56] <[GuS] > in video controls ryan
[09:56] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: could it be a fault cdrom?
[09:56] <ryan> oh
[09:56] <[GuS] > whatever option i change.. has no effect
[09:56] <[GuS] > and that does not happen before...
[09:56] <ryan> hmm could be your video card
[09:56] <Un-punkt-tot> hopefully not
[09:56] <[GuS] > is not
[09:56] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: could you go to Win$ and try to rip an entiere audio cd?
[09:56] <ryan> hmm
[09:56] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: or copy the content of a dvd
[09:56] <[GuS] > read me please: this happen in every Kubuntu dapper have in 20 computers
[09:56] <[GuS] > so is not a video problem
[09:56] <ryan> what kind of computer are you usin gus?
[09:57] <fritsch> then this seems a kafeine problem
[09:57] <fritsch> would fill a bug report
[09:57] <[GuS] > ryan, the thing is that before, was working
[09:57] <Un-punkt-tot> one moment please
[09:57] <ryan> it works fine for me on my laptop
[09:57] <ryan> wierd
[09:57] <fritsch> [GuS] : chaning brightness, you say?
[09:57] <[GuS] > yes
[09:57] <ryan> yes
[09:57] <[GuS] > or whatever another thing in video controls
[09:57] <[GuS] > has no effect
[09:57] <ryan> that is odd gus
[09:58] <[GuS] > yeah
[09:58] <theine> I love aptitude
[09:58] <[GuS] > for example
[09:58] <[GuS] > first fresh install of Kubuntu, works fine
[09:58] <[GuS] > after updates, no
[09:58] <ryan> im pretty savy with windows but linux is somethin i have learned to use fairly quickly
[09:58] <fritsch> [GuS] : does not work here either
[09:58] <ryan> u mean in control panel?
[09:58] <[GuS] > so... is kaffeine problem.. or maybe xine?
[09:59] <[GuS] > control panel? i don't use windows :P
[09:59] <ryan> system settings
[09:59] <fritsch> ryan: no
[09:59] <[GuS] > i am not a newbie.. i just enter here to know is that is a bug from kaffeine
[09:59] <fritsch> ryan: he change sbrightness during wathcing a newbie
[10:00] <fritsch> [GuS] : it is kaffeine, but i look in the man, if they write something they recommand for brightness
[10:00] <ryan> newbie u mean movie?
[10:00] <fritsch> hehe ;-)
[10:00] <[GuS] > fritsch, ?
[10:00] <[GuS] > lol
[10:01] <[GuS] > well.. i will check that un launchpad
[10:01] <[GuS] > in*
[10:01] <fritsch> [GuS] : mmmh it is working for someone
[10:01] <[GuS] > fritsch, but is not in 20 computers i have in my company
[10:02] <[GuS] > so i think is a problem with kaffeine or xine engine
[10:02] <ryan> very odd indeed
[10:02] <ballchalk> hi
[10:02] <ballchalk> how do i get torrent to work in ktorrent?
[10:02] <ryan> just gotta say im happy to be rid of windows
[10:03] <ryan> hi ballchalk
[10:03] <fritsch> [GuS] : not working for me, too
[10:03] <[GuS] > ok
[10:03] <[GuS] > i willl fill the bug report
[10:03] <fritsch> ballchalk: sudo apt-get install ktorrent
[10:03] <ballchalk> it is installed
[10:03] <TD-Linux> I went to http://www.microsoft.com/, and it crashed Konqueror :)
[10:03] <fritsch> ballchalk: just click on a torrent, it opens automatically
[10:03] <ryan> lol td
[10:03] <ballchalk> i'm trying to download limewire but status is "stalled"
[10:03] <fritsch> TD-Linux: i try
[10:03] <TD-Linux> segfault :)
[10:04] <TD-Linux> haha
[10:04] <fritsch> TD-Linux: which kde version
[10:04] <fritsch> ballchalk: just wait ...
[10:04] <TD-Linux> it did it again
[10:04] <TD-Linux> haha
[10:04] <ryan> why would ya wanna go to microsoft.com anyways
[10:04] <TD-Linux> it's repeatable!
[10:04] <[GuS] > this is kaffeine 0.8.1
[10:04] <fritsch> ballchalk: ktorrent is defenetily working
[10:04] <TD-Linux> I have Kubuntu 6.06, just updated.
[10:04] <TD-Linux> KDE ver...
[10:04] <fritsch> [GuS] : i got an idea, me has the same version
[10:04] <ryan> gus did you upgrade kde?
[10:04] <tomaczec> TD-Linux: not too funny at all... they just not be able to do this. dot.
[10:05] <fritsch> [GuS] : perhaps it cannot do it because of "divx" codec?
[10:05] <[GuS] > mm
[10:05] <fritsch> [GuS] : have tried other formats=
[10:05] <[GuS] > has the same effect on mpeg and so on
[10:05] <TD-Linux> 3.5.2
[10:05] <[GuS] > so i don't think so
[10:05] <fritsch> TD-Linux: try again with 3.5.4
[10:05] <fritsch> TD-Linux: upgrading is worth ;-)
[10:06] <[GuS] > i will enter to kaffeine channel
[10:06] <TD-Linux> can't do that with 6.06 :/
[10:06] <fritsch> TD-Linux: you can
[10:06] <TD-Linux> not off the 'official' repositories
[10:06] <fritsch> TD-Linux: which version? 386 amd64?
[10:06] <TD-Linux> I can, yes
[10:07] <fritsch> TD-Linux: http://kubuntu.org
[10:07] <theine> TD-Linux: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[10:07] <TD-Linux> 686 pentium
[10:07] <fritsch> theine: thx
[10:07] <theine> yw
[10:07] <ballchalk> hey how do i open RPM packages?
[10:07] <ryan> use synaptic
[10:07] <fritsch> ballchalk: would not suggest you
[10:08] <alef0> www.microsoft.com crashes my konqueror, too. (kde 3.5.4)...
[10:08] <theine> TD-Linux: while you're at it, you might wanna check out the newest amarok version as well
[10:08] <fritsch> ballchalk: but convert them to deb with "alien"
[10:08] <ballchalk> fritsch: ok
[10:08] <tomaczec> Konquerer 3.5.2 www,microsoft.com works.
[10:08] <Un-punkt-tot> fritsch, ripping a cd worked flawless
[10:08] <ballchalk> oh i can?
[10:08] <ballchalk> coool
[10:08] <ballchalk> haha alien
[10:08] <mortal5> hi everyone.  I'm trying to get chinese support running on kubuntu.  Anyone have any docs you could point me to?
[10:08] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: mmmh, original cd?
[10:08] <Un-punkt-tot> yes
[10:08] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: ah! try to copy whole kubuntu CD to your windows dekstop
[10:08] <fritsch> ballchalk: sudo apt-get install alien
[10:08] <ryan> microsoft.com works for me in KDE 3.5.4
[10:09] <fritsch> ballchalk: sudo alient --to-deb LALA.rpm
[10:09] <nalioth> alien should not be used except as a last resort
[10:09] <nalioth> ballchalk: what pkg are you after?
[10:09] <fritsch> ballchalk: sorry s/alient/alien/
[10:09] <ryan> hmm that is odd
[10:09] <ryan> it does crash konq
[10:09] <fritsch> nalioth: yes you are right
[10:09] <ballchalk> i know that because it's rpm for rh not deb
[10:10] <ballchalk> why is it that bad
[10:10] <fritsch> ballchalk: what do you want to install?
[10:10] <ryan> but not in firefox
[10:10] <ballchalk> is it because it unpacks in different places?
[10:10] <ballchalk> limewire
[10:10] <fritsch> ballchalk: because of "iohter default locations" other groups permissions
[10:10] <TD-Linux> okay, I'm installing the newest KDE now :)
[10:10] <TheGateKeeper> !frostwire
[10:10] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[10:10] <ballchalk> ohhh
[10:10] <ryan> it gives a SIGSEGV  konq
[10:10] <nalioth> ballchalk: that reason and that most programs in rpms are compiled to run on redhat based systems
[10:10] <ballchalk> it unpacks to different locations = noooo
[10:11] <ballchalk> ic i
[10:11] <fritsch> ballchalk: use frostwire ...
[10:11] <ballchalk> c
[10:11] <ballchalk> frost wire i read has limited connections
[10:11] <ryan> anyone know of any other Linux IRC chats?
[10:11] <ryan> nm ill do a google
[10:11] <nalioth> ballchalk: no, frostwire = limewire + limewire pro
[10:12] <nalioth> ryan: irssi
[10:12] <TheGateKeeper> ryan: there are loads /list will give you them anyone in particular?
[10:12] <Tm_T> nalioth: hi :)
[10:12] <ballchalk> kubuntu kics ass
[10:12] <ryan> no not any in particular
[10:12] <ballchalk> only if you can get the things you want to run that is haha
[10:12] <Tm_T> ryan: yes, irssi is good one if you don't afraid to use console based apps
[10:12] <Un-punkt-tot> ^_
[10:12] <ballchalk> i'm only short of mp3 playing
[10:12] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: worked?
[10:13] <pierreth> i'm having a hard time try to install my printer
[10:13] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: or cd not "okay" for your drive?
[10:13] <Tm_T> ballchalk: 22:26 < Amarok> * mp3onkubuntu = http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Ubuntu_5.10
[10:13] <ryan> in what way ballchalk?
[10:13] <Un-punkt-tot> still in progress
[10:13] <Tm_T> ballchalk: does that help? ;)
[10:13] <nalioth> Tm_T: where have you been hiding?
[10:13] <ryan> thanks guys for the hint
[10:13] <Tm_T> nalioth: in the woods
[10:13] <fritsch> ballchalk: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[10:13] <ballchalk> Tim_T im on daper drake
[10:13] <Tm_T> ballchalk: shouldn't matter
[10:13] <fritsch> ballchalk: saw above?
[10:14] <ballchalk> fritsch: yea i did extra codecs
[10:14] <fritsch> ballchalk: dpkg -l |grep xine |grep extra
[10:14] <Un-punkt-tot> fritsch, what do you mean with "or cd not ok for your drive?"
[10:14] <ballchalk> xmms is also broken no mp3 support
[10:14] <ryan> where do i put that irssi?
[10:14] <fritsch> ballchalk: what does this give?
[10:14] <ryan> im still new to this IRC stuff so bear with me
[10:14] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: sometimes some cd drives do not want to read some cds
[10:14] <Tm_T> nalioth: but I afraid I will be around bothering you and the guys more often in the future ;)
[10:14] <fritsch> ballchalk: nothing is broken
[10:15] <Un-punkt-tot> ah I see, but I burned the cd in that drive
[10:15] <fritsch> !RestrictedFormats > ballchalk
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about RestrictedFormats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <fritsch> wargh
[10:15] <fritsch> !restrictedformats
[10:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:15] <fritsch> !restrictedformats > ballchalk
[10:15] <ballchalk> fritsch: ii  libxine-extracodecs                    1.1.1+ubuntu1-2                         the xine video/media player library,                                                                                                         binary
[10:15] <fritsch> hehe
[10:15] <Un-punkt-tot> but I dont think that's it, because I have copied about 80 percent
[10:15] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: sorry, no idea ...
[10:16] <ballchalk> yea i read it
[10:16] <ballchalk> i even installed gstreamer packs
[10:16] <[GuS] > fritsch, i forgot to say... this problen does not exist in Kubuntu Dapper 64
[10:16] <ballchalk> ugly and bad repository
[10:16] <Un-punkt-tot> never choose a system for being "easy" .... what a pitty :(
[10:16] <[GuS] > problem*
[10:16] <fritsch> [GuS] : mmmh strange
[10:16] <[GuS] > yeah
[10:16] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: you can`t say this
[10:16] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: like that
[10:17] <Un-punkt-tot> why not?
[10:17] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: because it does not work for you
[10:17] <RingerE> http://www.wsmfm.com/dogs/entries  vote for molly, the cockerspaniel... if she gets enuogh votes i win crap ;o)
[10:17] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: or your hardware ...
[10:17] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: but generalizing things is always wrong *G* (for mathematics)
[10:18] <Un-punkt-tot> well all hardware is listed as supported hardware beside one thing I knew from the beginnig, so why should ot not work?
[10:18] <Un-punkt-tot> and so I am saying that
[10:18] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: okay
[10:18] <pierreth> does anyone knows how to setup a printer?
[10:19] <fritsch> pierreth: [KDE Icon]  Settings Printer
[10:19] <ryan> i personally think kubuntu is one of the easiest distros to use, i have tried quite a few and just wasnt happy with them at all
[10:19] <TD-Linux> oops
[10:19] <Un-punkt-tot> besides I know a bunch off people happy with kubuntu, that's how I found out about that distribution
[10:19] <TD-Linux> I treid to install the new version of KDE
[10:19] <pierreth> fritsch: ok, but when i click the admin button, it crash
[10:19] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: you could try the graphical installer
[10:19] <TD-Linux> and... it uninstalled the old versoin, but failed to isntall the new
[10:19] <TD-Linux> retrying...
[10:19] <fritsch> pierreth: what is your kde version?
[10:19] <pierreth> 3.5.2
[10:20] <fritsch> pierreth: perhaps worth upgrading
[10:20] <ryan> TD-linux; i did it, and im a total newbie so it cant be that hard
[10:20] <fritsch> theine: you have the link *g*?
[10:20] <Un-punkt-tot> I tried, but it always stops when starting cupsd
[10:20] <pierreth> fritsch: i don't know how
[10:20] <fritsch> pierreth: we help you
[10:20] <TD-Linux> okay :)
[10:20] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: have you plugged in a printer?
[10:20] <TD-Linux> probably just some conflicts with some crazy packages I installed :)
[10:20] <ryan> i upgraded my kde once it was said it was safe to do it
[10:21] <fritsch> ryan: hehe
[10:21] <Un-punkt-tot> no
[10:21] <ballchalk> in adept what is the diifference between sun java5-jre and sun java5-bin ???
[10:21] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: sorry no idea anymore
[10:21] <ryan> fritsch what funny?
[10:21] <fritsch> ballchalk: the one is runtime
[10:21] <TD-Linux> it didn't work again :(
[10:21] <fritsch> ballchalk: the other is compiler etc
[10:21] <pierreth> what should i do?
[10:21] <fritsch> ballchalk: jre java runtime environment
[10:21] <Un-punkt-tot> thanks anyway fritsch
[10:21] <fritsch> ballchalk: jsdk java sofwarte development kit
[10:21] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: where do you live in germany?
[10:22] <Un-punkt-tot> -->query?
[10:22] <fritsch> pierreth: still there?
[10:22] <pierreth> fritsch: yes!
[10:22] <fritsch> pierreth: open a terminal
[10:22] <pierreth> ok
[10:22] <tomaczec> really, i am using kde for about 6 yrs now -> an KDE upgrade never turns out to me to be _safe_ ... a try to avoid it as long as possible.
[10:22] <crazy_penguin> Good night to all! Sleep well!
[10:22] <fritsch> pierreth: type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:22] <fritsch> pierreth: it is one command
[10:23] <[GuS] > done, reported: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kaffeine/+bug/56847
[10:23] <fritsch> pierreth: "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:23] <TD-Linux> fixed
[10:23] <pierreth> fritsch: should i type 'type'
[10:23] <fritsch> pierreth: now
[10:23] <[GuS] > ops
[10:23] <fritsch> only the in ""
[10:23] <ryan> hmm dunno maybe im a linux prodigy n didnt even know it
[10:23] <ballchalk> so why netsplit now?
[10:23] <ryan> wow whats with all the joining stuff
[10:24] <tomaczec> ballchalk: no split... they all come back.
[10:24] <fritsch> pierreth: a editor window opens
[10:24] <[GuS] > ryan, restart or server splits
[10:24] <fritsch> pierreth: still there?
[10:24] <ryan> can i get rid of them? so i dont have to see them
[10:24] <[GuS] > they are fixing thigs
[10:25] <pierreth> fritsch: yes
[10:25] <adz21c> anyone know how to find out what repository a file is being stored in using apt-get/synaptic/ whatever?
[10:25] <fritsch> pierreth: have typed the command?
[10:25] <pierreth> fritsch: the editor is now open
[10:25] <pierreth> fritsch: yes
[10:25] <fritsch> pierreth: got to the end of this file
[10:25] <fritsch> pierreth: add in a new line
[10:25] <fritsch> pierreth: "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main"
[10:25] <Un-punkt-tot> fritsch, dresden and heilbronn(at the moment)
[10:25] <fritsch> pierreth: wihtout the "" but everythuing between ""
[10:26] <fritsch> heilbronn
[10:26] <TheGateKeeper> adz21c: apt:/ in konqueror
[10:26] <fritsch> hehe da fhrst an Sinsheim vorbei afu der Autobahn
[10:26] <ryan> well im gonna split gang was nice meeting you all
[10:26] <Un-punkt-tot> genau
[10:26] <fritsch> hehe *G*
[10:26] <pierreth> fritsch: this line was already there
[10:26] <fritsch> me lives in Karlsruhe
[10:26] <fritsch> sure?
[10:26] <Un-punkt-tot> quite near
[10:26] <fritsch> pierreth: okay, close the editor window
[10:26] <fritsch> pierreth: now type: sudo apt-get update
[10:27] <fritsch> pierreth: tell me when it has finished
[10:27] <TheGateKeeper> adz21c: firefox has also got a package search engine also dpkg -l | grep <partial package name>
[10:27] <Un-punkt-tot> why do you ask, fritsch?
[10:27] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: wanted to take the train for helping
[10:27] <pierreth> fritsch: done
[10:28] <adz21c> TheGateKeeper: excellent, thanks
[10:28] <Un-punkt-tot> no, thank you
[10:28] <fritsch> pierreth: now type: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:28] <fritsch> pierreth: and press Y
[10:28] <ballchalk> fritsch: i dowlnoaded the java5-jre and it's also grabbing java5-bin
[10:28] <ballchalk> i guess they're dependents
[10:28] <pierreth> fritsch: :-)
[10:28] <TheGateKeeper> adz21c: yw :-) if you google apt you will other methods too
[10:28] <fritsch> pierreth: yes?
[10:28] <pierreth> fritsch: still in progress
[10:29] <fritsch> not it is dist-upgrading?
[10:29] <fritsch> what does it install?
[10:29] <tomaczec> pierreth: on isdn line?
[10:29] <fritsch> pierreth: wargh! did not know *G*
[10:29] <pierreth> fritsch: ???
[10:30] <TheGateKeeper> ballchalk: how to install loads of software e.g. Java http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[10:30] <fritsch> pierreth: how long does it take?
[10:30] <pierreth> fritsch: it is hald done now
[10:30] <adz21c> TheGateKeeper: cool stuff ... ok other question ... I been looking at the kernels and its like the naming and/or versioning style changes, thats why i asked, too see if one set of packages is stored in some other none official repo
[10:30] <pierreth> fritsch: half done
[10:31] <adz21c> 2.6.15-26.46 or 2.6.15.24??? what would be the latest?
[10:31] <fritsch> pierreth: wait a mom, my chinese neighbour is singing a song -me joins
[10:32] <TheGateKeeper> adz21c: there are quite a few other repos like PLF for non-free stuff as shown here: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[10:32] <tomaczec> fritsch: you speak chinese?
[10:32] <fritsch> tomaczec: no, but thats no probleme
[10:32] <fritsch> tomaczec: me listens
[10:33] <StrudelNinja> anyone else having problems with xine in amaroK?
[10:33] <fritsch> tomaczec: she is really cool, always smiles, etc.
[10:33] <StrudelNinja> ...Kaffeine isn't working either.
[10:33] <TheGateKeeper> adz21c: if you want to build a custom kernel, then ubuntu forum howto's are the bast place to look
[10:33] <fritsch> tomaczec: the other germans always look sad etc.
[10:33] <tomaczec> fritsch: 'to join a singing' means to me you sing along... ;)
[10:33] <ninHer> hi all
[10:33] <fritsch> tomaczec: you can beat the rhythm
[10:33] <fritsch> tomaczec: hehe
[10:33] <adz21c> TheGateKeeper: not looking to build a custom ... just install whats there
[10:34] <fritsch> pierreth: finished?
[10:34] <TheGateKeeper> !seveas
[10:34] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:34] <pierreth> fritsch: it is installing now
[10:34] <TheGateKeeper> adz21c: also ^^^^
[10:34] <tomaczec> fritsch: yeah, sure, the rythms of chinese songs are really... worth a real drummer. ;)
[10:35] <Un-punkt-tot> fritsch, are you a student?
[10:35] <TheGateKeeper> adz21c: googling also comes up with people's recomendations :-)
[10:35] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: yes
[10:35] <Un-punkt-tot> :)
[10:35] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: a student who wanted to got head banging
[10:35] <fritsch> Un-punkt-tot: but every one has gone home :-(
[10:35] <TheGateKeeper> brb
[10:36] <adz21c> TheGateKeeper: yea but its like not recommendations i really need ... i just wanna know which is the latest packages or whatever its like the naming scheme changes and it makes it a lil confusing
[10:36] <Seveas> !seveas =~ s/$/ - Seveas needs new mirrors, poke him if you have 50GB/month to spare
[10:36] <ubotu> ('seveas', 's/$/ - Seveas needs new mirrors, poke him if you have 50GB/month to spare')
[10:36] <Seveas> urgh
[10:36] <pierreth> fritsch: it is done
[10:36] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[10:36] <fritsch> pierreth: now reboot?
[10:36] <intelikey> when trying to run k3b  it says 'can't talk to klauncher'  and also cant find any cd writer       'knee thoughts ?
[10:36] <fritsch> pierreth: yes reboot, because of new hal, etc.
[10:36] <Un-punkt-tot> which subject? *curious me*
[10:36] <tomaczec> this ubotu... yeah, i know that guy. ;)
[10:37] <pierreth> fritsch: ok, goodbye, i will come back :-)
[10:37] <fritsch> intelikey: you run k3b with the same user you have installed k3b?
[10:37] <intelikey> fritsch yep root
[10:37] <fritsch> kdesu k3bsetup
[10:37] <fritsch> intelikey: root!!!
[10:37] <intelikey> yep
[10:37] <fritsch> intelikey: you are running X as root?
[10:37] <intelikey> yep
[10:38] <fritsch> intelikey: wargh
[10:38] <fritsch> intelikey: no
[10:38] <fritsch> intelikey: help
[10:38] <intelikey> yes
[10:38] <fritsch> -> i need a coffe
[10:38] <tomaczec> fritsch: coming from debian i know 'root'... but what is 'root' under Kubuntu?
[10:38] <intelikey> tomaczec same thing it is in any other linux
[10:38] <fritsch> tomaczec: i think he has "enabled" root login, and logged in kde
[10:39] <vranikx> hello all, i have little problem with kaffeine: when i set to opengl it won`t show me subtitles...does anybody knows how can i solve this problem?
[10:39] <SCANMAKER> buona sera
[10:39] <fritsch> intelikey: NEVER, please never login as root into kdm
[10:39] <fritsch> intelikey: this is windows way of unsecurity
[10:39] <ballchalk> awe crap
[10:39] <ballchalk> i am using adept to install my java runtimes and it's stuck at 28%
[10:39] <intelikey> fritsch what is that to you ?    my box is secure.
[10:40] <tomaczec> intelikey: well, what is my root password after installing Ubuntu?
[10:40] <ballchalk> i click on Show Details and it's got a terminal-like screen and i cant click on OK in that thing
[10:40] <fritsch> intelikey: you are running a kdm session as root?
[10:40] <fritsch> intelikey: logged in as root?
[10:40] <intelikey> tomaczec there isn't one.  unless you set it.   sudo and use your own passwd
[10:40] <fritsch> intelikey: every script from the net could kill your whole data ...
[10:40] <pierreth> fritsch: i am back
[10:40] <fritsch> pierreth: printer working?
[10:41] <intelikey> fritsch net can't access my box    sheez
[10:41] <pierreth> fritsch: i will try again
[10:41] <fritsch> intelikey: k3bsetup
[10:41] <fritsch> intelikey: this is defenetily NOT the debian way ... i told you (off for root logs in kdm diskussion for my part)
[10:42] <tomaczec> intelikey: ok, now i see how i can set it for root. but isn't this a bit strange?
[10:43] <ballchalk> help
[10:43] <ballchalk> i can't install java in adept
[10:43] <[GuS] > ballchalk,
[10:43] <intelikey> tomaczec it default in *buntu
[10:43] <intelikey> !root
[10:43] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:43] <ballchalk> there's a screen in show details and i can't interact with the ok button
[10:43] <pierreth> fritsch: i have a message that it is possible to load the driver
[10:43] <LeeJunFan> omg: finally kde3.5.4 mounts drives according to FS label in /media. I've only been bitching about that for 6 or so years.
[10:43] <intelikey> you can read there ^
[10:43] <LeeJunFan> hehe
[10:44] <[GuS] > sun-java5 is the name... search sun-java5* for wich you want
[10:44] <ballchalk> [GuS] : it's installing but i'm stuck in the middle
[10:44] <pierreth> fritsch: ?
[10:44] <[GuS] > ballchalk, is a problem, showing the license
[10:44] <fritsch> mom
[10:44] <[GuS] > do oit under console
[10:45] <ballchalk> uhm
[10:45] <ballchalk> ok so i cancel installation?
[10:45] <[GuS] > yes
[10:45] <ballchalk> how do i resume in the konsole?
[10:45] <intelikey> fritsch thanks for your concern.  i know you mean well.
[10:45] <[GuS] > ballchalk, exactly wich package you are installing?
[10:45] <ballchalk> ok i quit adept
[10:45] <ballchalk> uhm
[10:45] <[GuS] > is for java plugin?
[10:45] <ballchalk> java5-jre
[10:45] <[GuS] > ok
[10:45] <ballchalk> and java5-bin
[10:45] <tomaczec> thx 4 all the help... hafta
[10:45] <[GuS] > sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[10:46] <ballchalk> java5-bin is what gave me that license crap
[10:46] <[GuS] > yeah
[10:46] <[GuS] > just type that command
[10:46] <[GuS] > and will install the bin too
[10:46] <fritsch> intelikey: k
[10:46] <[GuS] > if.. is allready installed.. just uninstall it by: sudo apt-get remove sun-java5-bin
[10:47] <[GuS] > and then install it again to show the license
[10:48] <angenis> suck my dick
[10:48] <ballchalk> not too good with apt-get brb
[10:48] <[GuS] > O.
[10:48] <pierreth> fritsch: ?
[10:49] <ballchalk> reopenning adept and remove what was installed
[10:49] <fritsch> pierreth: girlfrind @ phone
[10:49] <[GuS] > ballchalk, type what i told...
[10:49] <pierreth> fritsch: :-(
[10:49] <ballchalk> i did
[10:49] <ballchalk> it gave me an error
[10:49] <[GuS] > wich
[10:49] <ballchalk> hold on
[10:49] <fritsch> pierreth: her laptop make a "lighening"
[10:50] <[GuS] > yeah, the error is because you cancelled the installation
[10:50] <pierreth> fritsch: it prints but it is not the recommanded driver
[10:50] <ballchalk> sudo apt-get sun-java5-jre
[10:50] <jeff_hann> hi FuzzyTheBear
[10:50] <jeff_hann> :)
[10:50] <ballchalk> i updated the list beforehand though
[10:50] <[GuS] > ?
[10:50] <ballchalk> i did update or someting
[10:50] <FuzzyTheBear> hi jeff
[10:50] <ballchalk> sudo apt-get update
[10:51] <[GuS] > for what?
[10:52] <pierreth> fritsch: thank you :-)
[10:52] <StrudelNinja_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26308&page=2&highlight=amaroK says to try $rm ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc but I'm getting command not found
[10:52] <ballchalk> gotta reboot brb
[10:52] <fritsch> pierreth: what is your printer modell?
[10:52] <fritsch> pierreth: ah it works *G* cool
[10:53] <fritsch> pierreth: schin, was happy to help
[10:53] <pierreth> fritsch: i have hp deskjet 1220c
[10:53] <pierreth> fritsch: are you from chineese?
[10:54] <fritsch> pierreth: no, sorry
[10:54] <fritsch> pierreth: just live in a students "barack"? whichis multicultural
[10:55] <pierreth> fritsch: from where are you?
[10:55] <fritsch> pierreth: german
[10:55] <fritsch> pierreth: y
[10:55] <pierreth> fritsch: you name sound germain, i am from quebec canada
[10:56] <fritsch> pierreth: i have ancestors there, but never saw them :-(
[10:56] <fritsch> pierreth: fritsch came once from fridge ;-)
[10:56] <pierreth> fritsch: you're cool!
[10:56] <jujimufu> I am downloading the kernel sources according to the wiki, and I am downloading them with git. For about 30 minutes now, it's stuck to this:
[10:56] <jujimufu> pack/pack-d8977b6892bc8be0ef0801f5428d1e78aa088473.idx
[10:56] <jujimufu> pack/pack-d8977b6892bc8be0ef0801f5428d1e78aa088473.pack
[10:57] <jujimufu> is this what it's supposed to do?
[10:59] <D4rkly> anyone know how i can chown a folder ?
[11:00] <fritsch> jujimufu: you want to build a custom kernel?
[11:00] <fritsch> jujimufu: a stable one?
[11:00] <fritsch> jujimufu: then git sould not be your way to go
[11:00] <fritsch> D4rkly: chown 755 Folder
[11:01] <fritsch> D4rkly: man chown
[11:01] <fritsch> D4rkly: sorry, totally
[11:01] <fritsch> D4rkly: chmod 755 Folder *G*
[11:01] <fritsch> D4rkly: man chmod *G* as said before
[11:02] <fritsch> D4rkly: but you want chown i see *G*
[11:02] <fritsch> D4rkly: sudo chown pille:users /root -R would change the owner of /root to pille from groups users
[11:02] <fritsch> D4rkly: rest ist goolging
[11:02] <fritsch> *G*
[11:03] <jujimufu> fritsch: I just did what the kernelcustombuild wiki article in the ubuntu wiki siad.
[11:03] <pierreth> someone is using Thunar with kde here?
[11:03] <fritsch> jujimufu: okay :-) have fun
[11:05] <Heruka> Hi Can't pair bluetooth with mobile phone..any suggestions
[11:08] <ballchalk> something broke my video
[11:08] <ballchalk> now my video is in pieces
[11:08] <cozomo> hammers do that
[11:08] <ballchalk> i can't change the resolution
[11:08] <ballchalk> yea
[11:08] <ballchalk> it's like tiled or something
[11:09] <ballchalk> how do i fix tihs?
[11:10] <ballchalk> anybody?
[11:10] <TheGateKeeper> !fixres
[11:11] <ballchalk> in konsole?
[11:11] <ballchalk> i dunno it's not just only res problem but my output is like tile wrap
[11:11] <jujimufu> fritsch: no, really, what should I do?
[11:11] <ballchalk> image in 2 places and all
[11:12] <fritsch> jujimufu: mom tel
[11:12] <ballchalk> i can't go higher than 1024x768
[11:12] <jujimufu> fritsch: mom tel?
[11:13] <qadesh> anyone know how to set up a global env variable on kubuntu dapper
[11:13] <fdoving> qadesh: /etc/environment
[11:14] <qadesh> ok fdoving and ...
[11:14] <ballchalk> how can i fix my video?
[11:14] <fdoving> qadesh: put your environment variables in there.
[11:14] <qadesh> ok but how ?
[11:15] <qadesh> create a file ? do some misterious command ?
[11:15] <fdoving> how? with a text editor.
[11:15] <fdoving> qadesh: for example 'kdesu kate /etc/environment'
[11:16] <cozomo> somg! kDESUDESUDESU
[11:16] <cozomo> Suiseiseki for KDE
[11:16] <Chousuke> :P
[11:16] <Chousuke> kdesu needs to be renamed :(
[11:16] <cozomo> what is kdesu?
[11:17] <fdoving> Chousuke: why?
[11:17] <Chousuke> it's a KDE su utility.
[11:17] <cozomo> oh my thats lame
[11:17] <cozomo> no suiseiseki?
[11:17] <fdoving> why is that lame?
[11:17] <Chousuke> fdoving: because I always think of it as k desu instead of kde su :P
[11:17] <qadesh> thanks fdoving
[11:17] <fdoving> qadesh: you're welcome.
[11:17] <ballchalk> how do i reconfigure my resolution?
[11:18] <fdoving> ballchalk: from konsole 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg'
[11:18] <ballchalk> i had 1600x1200 and now it's only 1024x768
[11:18] <ballchalk> k
[11:18] <fritsch> ballchalk: hehe "now its only" and of course you did not change anything?
[11:23] <ballchalk> fritsch: i dunno what i did
[11:23] <ballchalk> i didn't mess with the video - only trying to install jre
[11:23] <ballchalk> ima reboot brb
[11:25] <cozomo> lol internet
[11:26] <hivemind> So, anyone know how I can remove the Kubuntu 'splash' from the startup? (When it tells you how it's setting up your system for use)
[11:27] <soulrider> hi
[11:27] <Un-punkt-tot> gn8
[11:27] <apallo19> hello everyone!
[11:28] <hivemind> Hi! ^_^
[11:28] <apallo19> i need help :|
[11:28] <soulrider> whats wrong apallo19
[11:29] <soulrider> wow! i got an 8 second lag! O.O
[11:29] <apallo19> i am trying to mount my windows network shares on my linux box
[11:29] <apallo19> it looks like it's working, but no drive shows up
[11:29] <fdoving> hivemind: remove 'splash' from the kernel arguments in grub/lilo.
[11:29] <soulrider> oh
[11:29] <soulrider> i ahvnt done that yet
[11:29] <fritsch> cu @ all
[11:30] <fritsch> have fun
[11:30] <Blissex> apallo19: try to mount them by direct name. Also the browse list takes a while to appear.
[11:30] <soulrider> bye fritsch
[11:30] <apallo19> i'm using the command line mount stuff
[11:31] <apallo19> mount -t smbfs -o username=username,password=password //server/share /media/mountpoint
[11:31] <hivemind> fdoving, I don't mean a bootloader splash. I mean the stage after that.
[11:31] <hivemind> fdoving, unless that's what you're talking about and I'm a tool.
[11:32] <daoud> Hoi
[11:33] <apallo19> it goes ok with no errors, but the drive doesn't show up on the desktop, and when i try to cd to the mountpoint and do an ls, it tells me access denied
[11:34] <apallo19> actually it's:     ls: .: Permission denied
[11:35] <apallo19> being a noob sucks
[11:35] <apallo19> i don't even know where to start
[11:42] <solemnwarning> Why is xchat not in the kubuntu repos?
[11:42] <crimsun> it is.
[11:42] <crimsun> !info xchat
[11:42] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[11:42] <crimsun> note the component.
[11:42] <solemnwarning> o_O
[11:42] <solemnwarning> Not according to apt
[11:42] <solemnwarning> oh
[11:42] <crimsun> again, note the component.
[11:42] <solemnwarning> Why is it in universe?
[11:43] <crimsun> because it was demoted for various reasons to which I can't recall currently.
[11:43] <phoenix_> hola?
[11:43] <solemnwarning> xchat-gnome is horrible
[11:43] <dawiz> hey now
[11:43] <phoenix_> alguien abla spaol?
[11:43] <dawiz> kde rocks
[11:44] <crimsun> the same can be said for xchat, but that's probably off-topic.
[11:44] <dawiz> whois <phoenix>
[11:44] <solemnwarning> Also, how can I make the system speaker not beep every time \a is printed in terminal?
[11:45] <phoenix_> haw i can see wmv files?
[11:45] <daoud_213> No habla amigo
[11:45] <daoud_213> Anyone know abotu terms of Paid Kubuntu Support? where can i find the terms??
[11:45] <dawiz> phoenix: depends on the codec
[11:45] <dawiz> try vlc
[11:45] <phoenix_> daoud_213 hablas espaol?
[11:45] <dawiz> or amarok
[11:46] <Blissex> daoud_213: look at http://WWW.Canonical.com/
[11:46] <daoud_213> Phoenix no habla espanol amigo , desole.
[11:46] <dawiz> but, wmv9 heh good luck
[11:46] <Blissex> !es
[11:46] <Blissex> !sapnish
[11:46] <hivemind> Okay, so I disabled the Kubuntu splash, but is there anyway I can change it?
[11:46] <Blissex> !spanish
[11:46] <phoenix_> i have the programs and the codecs... & i can't see the film
[11:46] <dawiz> is it wmv9?
[11:46] <Blissex> hivemind: sure, do a web search....
[11:47] <daoud_213> Ok thank  you Blissexxx
[11:47] <solemnwarning> Is there a certain way I should install madwifi under kubuntu or should I just grab the source and compile it like under debian?
[11:47] <daoud_213> Bye
[11:47] <Blissex> dawiz: a recent, very proprietary MS codec.
[11:47] <phoenix_> blissex you are spanish? or speack spanish?
[11:47] <Blissex> solemnwarning: both Debian and Fedora have madwifi
[11:48] <dawiz> phoenix: your english seems fine
[11:48] <solemnwarning> They do?
[11:48] <Blissex> phoenix_: no, just trying to find the factoud for phoenix_
[11:48] <solemnwarning> I never noticed o_O
[11:48] <angenis> yo
[11:48] <solemnwarning> I just compiled from source
[11:48] <angenis> whats
[11:48] <angenis> up
[11:48] <dawiz> dont use madwifi
[11:48] <phoenix_> my english fine? lol....
[11:48] <angenis> people
[11:48] <solemnwarning> dawiz: Why?
[11:48] <dawiz> what chipset do you have?
[11:48] <angenis> guys
[11:48] <solemnwarning> Cant remember, been ages since I last went driver hunting for it
[11:49] <dawiz> yeah, your english seems to be holding up so far
[11:49] <dawiz> solem: first you need to know the mfg of your chipset
[11:49] <soulrider> phoenix_: si encesitas ayuda con el ignles aca estoy
[11:49] <soulrider> auqnue en unos minutos em voy a tener que ir :P
[11:49] <soulrider> !es
[11:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:49] <Mez> Out of curiosity, who would be interested in a linux based poker client ? like - a limux version of partypoker
[11:50] <solemnwarning> dawiz: madwifi works
[11:50] <phoenix_> soulrider
[11:50] <dawiz> sometimes
[11:50] <solemnwarning> Why should I find another driver?
[11:50] <dawiz> depends on your chipset
[11:50] <soulrider> si
[11:50] <phoenix_> tengo un problema.. no puedo ver archivos wmv..
[11:50] <solemnwarning> I've been using it under other distros for over a year
[11:50] <Mez> !tell phoenix_ about es
[11:50] <soulrider> ah
[11:50] <solemnwarning> I _think_ it works
[11:50] <soulrider> !w32codecs
[11:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:51] <dawiz> if you have a 2.6 kernel you shouldnt need it
[11:51] <soulrider> phoenix, bajate los w32codecs y podes abrir los archivos con kaffeine
[11:51] <soulrider> sorrya obut our spanish guys
[11:51] <soulrider> were done
[11:51] <Mez> !tell soulrider about es
[11:51] <dawiz> sorry?
[11:51] <solemnwarning> Well, I do
[11:51] <dawiz> lol
[11:51] <dawiz> isnt there a spanish room?
[11:51] <Mez> dawiz - yes :D
[11:51] <dawiz> then go to it
[11:51] <soulrider> if yous croll up you can see my typing !es ;)
[11:52] <Mez> !tell Mez about backports
[11:52] <dawiz> or should i go in there and expect everyone to speak english for me
[11:52] <dawiz> lol
[11:52] <soulrider> just let go
[11:52] <Mez> soulrider - use the !tell function
[11:52] <soulrider> didnt know about it
[11:52] <adidas> !fonts
[11:52] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[11:52] <Mez> it makes less channel noise :D
[11:52] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[11:53] <dawiz> i cant use flash
[11:53] <dawiz> sux
[11:53] <dawiz> anyone using flas on powerpc?
[11:53] <dawiz> flash*
[11:53] <soulrider> g2g, ill see you al later!
[11:55] <dawiz> kubuntu rocks
[11:55] <dawiz> a bit dumbed up compared to slack tho
[11:55] <dawiz> but good luck running slack on ppc
[11:55] <Mez> dawiz: I'd say more "new-user friendly" than "dumbed up"
[11:55] <dawiz> yeah
[11:55] <dawiz> lol
[11:56] <dawiz> im not a new user
[11:56] <dawiz> but missed linux
[11:56] <dawiz> all my notebooks are apple now so.....
[11:56] <dawiz> best for ppc
[11:56] <Mez> dawiz: to be honest - theres not really anything in kubuntu you cant do the same old way you used to in slack ...
[11:56] <dawiz> true
[11:56] <Mez> it's just we provide the tools to do it in an easier manner
[11:56] <dawiz> yep
[11:56] <dawiz> much easier
[11:57] <dawiz> darwin is nice tho
[11:57] <Mez> and whats wrong with that ?
[11:57] <dawiz> nothing
[11:57] <dawiz> im just getting used to having things already done for me in linux
[11:57] <cozomo> would anyone know how to change from oss to alsa? I get this whenever I try to play stuff on mplayer: [AO OSS]  audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy, it happens on noatun, amarok, kaffine and everything but VLC
[11:58] <dawiz> im def glad to be M$ free again tho
[11:58] <Mez> cozomo, I'm guessing you have arts running - thats probably why
[11:58] <dawiz> although darwin def rocked
[11:59] <Mez> cozomo, if you go into the system settings - goto the options and disable the sound server...
[11:59] <Mez> then you should be able to play stuff in vlc...
[11:59] <Mez> and then just re-enable it after..
[12:00] <dawiz> like linux but well supported and compatible with just about everything
[12:00] <Mez> dawiz: probably more
[12:01] <dawiz> osx rocks
[12:02] <dawiz> compatible with way more
[12:02] <dawiz> mez: are you a developer on the kubuntu project?
[12:03] <|lostbyte|> Hi, ..
[12:03] <Mez> dawiz: yes...
[12:03] <dawiz> right on
[12:03] <cozomo> Mez: didnt seem to work
[12:03] <adidas> someone knows how to install Live MSN Messenger on Kubuntu by Wine please ?
[12:04] <|lostbyte|> (WW) NVIDIA(0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-0, any idea ?
[12:04] <dawiz> thanks for devoting your time
[12:04] <Mez> adidas -> #wine-hq
[12:04] <adidas> thanks
[12:04] <Mez> dawiz: not done much atm - but for edgy+1 I'll be doing a lot
[12:04] <dawiz> right on
[12:05] <dawiz> sometimes id like to get into coding just to help out
[12:05] <dawiz> but networking is my thing
[12:05] <Blissex> dawiz: writing docs is the best help one can give to free sw. Free sw developers hate writing them.
[12:06] <Mez> Blissex, too true
[12:06] <Mez> dawiz - you have a query
[12:06] <dawiz> i could see that
[12:06] <dawiz> no
[12:06] <Blissex> dawiz: the second best help is to support a bit people on IRC :-)
[12:06] <dawiz> i do what i can
[12:08] <archangel_> whats up folks