[12:49] <pitti> hi
[12:50] <rodarvus> hi there
[12:50] <zul> hey pitti
[12:50] <zul> and rodarvus 
[12:50] <rodarvus> hey pitti, zul
[12:52] <doko> hi
[12:54] <zyga> hi :)
[12:57] <Riddell> evening all
[12:58] <fschoep> Hello everyone.
[01:00] <sfllaw> Hello all!
[01:00] <iwj> Hello.
[01:00] <zul> hi
[01:00] <sfllaw> mdz asked me to moderate this meeting, because he's in an aeroport right now.
[01:00] <pitti> hey Simon
[01:01] <ogra> excuses !
[01:01] <Keybuk> that's hardly a "creative" excuse
[01:01] <sfllaw> I know.
[01:01] <ogra> theer are surely hotspots :)
[01:01] <sfllaw> Anyway, it feeds my lust for power.
[01:01] <sfllaw> So who am I to argue?
[01:01] <ogra> hehe
[01:01] <Keybuk> he wouldn't let us get away with that one
[01:01] <Keybuk> it'd be "well, dial in on your mobile then"
[01:02] <sfllaw> Has anyone seen heno?
[01:02] <ogra> hehe, yeah
[01:02] <Keybuk> did he even send in a report?!
[01:03] <sfllaw> BenC, Kamion, fschoep, Riddell, pitti, mvo, seb128: Ping!
[01:04] <seb128> sfllaw: pong
[01:04] <BenC> sfflaw: pong
[01:04] <mvo> hello
[01:04] <fschoep> sfllaw: pong
[01:04] <Riddell> I've ponged
[01:04] <Riddell> Kamion will be holidaying
[01:04] <Keybuk> sfllaw: Kamion is still on Holiday
[01:04] <sfllaw> Oh.
[01:04] <pitti> sfllaw: Kamion is still on holiday
[01:04] <pitti> Keybuk: /me takes a penalty card for being snapped
[01:04] <sfllaw> :)
[01:04] <Riddell> fschoep ponged too
[01:04] <BenC> sfllaw: Not sure if anyone told you, but Kamion is on holiday :)
[01:05] <sfllaw> doko: Ping.
[01:05] <sfllaw> BenC: StaffCalendar is not very reliable these days.
[01:05] <pitti> sfllaw: it's not supposed to be any more
[01:05] <pitti> sfllaw: canonicaladmin.com :)
[01:05] <Keybuk> sfllaw: are you using the canonicaladmin.com one
[01:05] <BenC> we have the mondo admin app now
[01:05] <pitti> Keybuk: snap!
[01:06] <doko> sfllaw: here from the beginning
[01:06] <iwj> So ... shall we go ?
[01:07] <sfllaw> Yup.
[01:07] <sfllaw> infinity?
[01:07] <infinity> sfllaw: I need about 5 mins.  Just woke up.  Sorry.
[01:07] <sfllaw> It's cool.
[01:07] <sfllaw> BenC?
[01:07] <BenC> * Implemented remainder of kernel side for apport.
[01:07] <BenC> * Implemented auto-module loading for speakup synth modules.
[01:07] <BenC> * Burned through a lot of kernel bugs.
[01:07] <BenC> * Benchmarked i386 and amd64 kernels. Result, kernels will be reduced to one generic of each of i386 and amd64, SMP enabled. Server kernels haven't changed. A -386 kernel will be retained as an alternate target for systems that need non-SMP capable (legacy) drivers.
[01:07] <BenC> * ia64 and hppa32 have been reduced to two SMP enabled kernels. The UP versions were removed.
[01:07] <BenC> * Lots of other trivial and not so trivial kernel stuff.
[01:07] <BenC> * Started implementing changes for Intel platforms: drm, e1000, scheduler fixups, iommu changes for IOAT.
[01:07] <BenC> * libata-for-all-disks: Pretty much stalled because of me. I think someone proposed some time for this at the distro-sprint, and it needs it. It's not hard, just needs some eyes and hands to get it done.
[01:08] <Keybuk> I did indeed propse time
[01:08] <Keybuk> randomly, I notice my ATA driver is still not in the list
[01:08] <Keybuk> (ALi -- FTB or some other reason?)
[01:08] <BenC> not all of them were turned on
[01:08] <BenC> some were "done, but never tested"
[01:09] <BenC> I honestly think that for edgy, we may not enable these drivers by default
[01:09] <BenC> but doing so in edgy+1 will be a lot easier
[01:10] <BenC> we should at least finish the UUID conversion regardless of the date of libata-for-all-disks
[01:10] <BenC> s/date/fate/
[01:10] <Keybuk> yeah; I'm inclined towards "edgy+1 when it's in mainline anyway" but have everything in place so that there's a switch in edgy they could throw if they wanted
[01:11] <BenC> right, I feel much better about that scenario too
[01:11] <Keybuk> ok, I'm done :p
[01:11] <sfllaw> Anyone else?
[01:12] <rodarvus> yes
[01:12] <rodarvus> BenC, the drm stuff you mention is the agpgart driver, right?
[01:12] <rodarvus> (the updates to it on intelinuxgraphics.org, I mean)
[01:12] <BenC> agp and drm
[01:12] <BenC> right
[01:12] <rodarvus> *nods*, thanks
[01:12] <doko> BenC: do you care about the misdn user tools, or should that somebody else?
[01:13] <BenC> are you doing the xorg side?
[01:13] <rodarvus> . o O ( we seriously need a machine with a i965g board )
[01:13] <rodarvus> BenC, its done, already
[01:13] <BenC> doko: Considering I don't have isdn, I would prefer someone else do it :)
[01:13] <BenC> rodarvus: excellent
[01:13] <rodarvus> I'll upload a new mesa later today, but it only has a minor fix
[01:13] <BenC> we have one such machine
[01:13] <BenC> it's in Montreal
[01:13] <BenC> we should bug jbailey about it
[01:13] <infinity> sfllaw: Kay, I guess I'm readyish now.
[01:13] <sfllaw> rodarvus: Or cr3.
[01:14] <rodarvus> cr3 said he didn't have one on his hands (but I might have read what he said incorrectly)
[01:14] <sfllaw> Perfect.  infinity?
[01:14] <infinity> Done:
[01:14] <infinity>  * build-failure-process: After many talks with cprov and some tests, this is rolled out in production, but not turned on, awaiting one final fix, which should be done today.
[01:14] <infinity>  * Spent lots of time this week with Team Soyuz, discussing their specs, discussing new and shiny bugs, and generally giving them gentle shoves in the directions we need.
[01:14] <infinity>  * General archive maintenance, NEW processing, etc.
[01:14] <infinity>  * Re-rolled, tested, published, and re-released the 6.06.1 Ubuntu Server CD for sparc.
[01:14] <infinity>  * General buildd maintenance, as usual.
[01:14] <infinity>  * Some random bugfixing, bootstrapping, and other faff not worth expanding.
[01:14] <infinity> To do:
[01:14] <infinity>  * While everyone is off sprinting, I intend to finish up what's left of larger-livefs, live-cd-stacked-filesystems, livefs-build-speedups, and debian-maintainer-field.  None have a great deal of work left, but all have some odd requirements here and there.
[01:14] <infinity>  * Need to put the pieces together with pitti to get ddebs off the buildds and onto rookery.
[01:14] <infinity>  * Need to do a couple dozen uploads for FTBFS issues to get edgy's out-of-date count back down to zero.
[01:15] <Keybuk> I got to 'p' in the NBS before I got bored
[01:15] <infinity> Awesome, thanks.
[01:15] <Riddell> NBS?
[01:15] <infinity> Not Built from Source.
[01:15] <infinity> ie: Removing old cruft.
[01:15] <Riddell> right
[01:16] <Riddell> infinity: are you coming to Wiesbeiden?
[01:16] <pitti> Riddell: Wiesbaden :)
[01:16] <Riddell> no, presume not from your update
[01:16] <Riddell> pitti: thingy
[01:16] <infinity> Nope.
[01:16] <Keybuk> UDMTW
[01:16] <pitti> Keybuk: Ubuntu Distro Meeting Thingy Wiesbaden?
[01:17] <Keybuk> that would work too
[01:17] <sfllaw> I just got a bug with an apport crash report.  It's sexy.
[01:17] <pitti> sfllaw: :)
[01:17] <Keybuk> I was just thinking of a Fawlty Towers scene
[01:17] <ogra> ugh
[01:17] <ogra> why did i read airport there ?
[01:18] <Keybuk> Irn Bru
[01:18] <Keybuk> of which, the only good thing that can be said is that it washes away the taste of the haggis
[01:18] <mvo> LOL
[01:18] <sfllaw> Any more questions for infinity?
[01:18] <ogra> hahaha
[01:18] <Keybuk> (actually, I rather like haggis, but anyway)
[01:18] <iwj> I think not judging by the conversation ...
[01:18] <pitti> infinity: happy to IRC meet with you next week for the ddeb stuff
[01:18] <pitti> infinity: (to do the rookery side)
[01:18] <infinity> pitti: Yeahp, will do.
[01:20] <Riddell> sfllaw: poke, do the clerking thing
[01:21] <pitti> Riddell: just go next :)
[01:21] <iwj> Yep, Riddell, go next.
[01:21] <Riddell> done:
[01:21] <Riddell>     kubuntu-hwdb: implemented
[01:21] <Riddell>     kubuntu-accessibility: implemented, just waiting on casper and gfxboot support from kamion/mithrandir
[01:21] <Riddell> todo:
[01:21] <Riddell>     kubuntu-edgy-package-manager: have a go at implementing commercial repository support in adept-installer
[01:22] <sfllaw_> Woah, sorry about that.
[01:22] <pitti> wb sfllaw_ 
[01:22] <Riddell> sfllaw: we're going without you
[01:22] <Keybuk> iwj: next :p
[01:22] <iwj> sfflaw_: Hello.  We decided to have Riddell next because he put his hand up.
[01:22] <sfllaw_> Nice.
[01:22] <pitti> Riddell: did you see any problems with langpacks-desktopfiles-kde?
[01:22] <mvo> Riddell: let me know if  I can do something for you there (commercial support)
[01:22] <iwj> Keybuk: I'll wait for us to finish with Riddell :-).
[01:23] <Riddell> pitti: seems to be working, although most of KDE needs recompiled to add it
[01:23] <pitti> cool
[01:23] <Riddell> mvo: we might also look at a kubuntu dist-upgrader at the sprint
[01:23] <mvo> Riddell: ok
[01:24] <mvo> Riddell: lets see how far we get with the support from python-konsole :)
[01:24] <Riddell> yep
[01:24] <Riddell> no kwwii this week, in the US
[01:24] <Riddell> I make it iwj next
[01:25] <iwj> firefox 2.0 beta merge: Finished.  Sorry for the mess last week.
[01:25] <iwj> LP `1.0' UI: Got involved in some discussions.  Not sure how fruitful it was.
[01:25] <iwj> automated-testing-deployment: No change since last week.
[01:25] <iwj> suggest-packages-for-filetypes: Not started.  I hope to discuss this briefly with mvo at the Sprint and implement it shortly after that; it doesn't look hard.
[01:25] <iwj> package-dependency-field-breaks: Following feedback after a deployment in firefox, it now seems that the changes to apt are an essential part of this.  I've started to understand the code for this.  If a ff theme package isn't available by late Friday I'll upload a firefox without Breaks to make the dependency problems go away, so that the theme ends up installed but silently broken.
[01:25] <doko> iwj: dselect aborts
[01:25] <iwj> doko: Coo.
[01:25] <iwj> Bug# ?
[01:26] <mvo> iwj: I would be interessted if you could let me know about the implementation plan in apt
[01:26] <fschoep> iwj: Are you waiting for me to do the FF2 theme (by tomorrow)?
[01:26] <iwj> mvo: I'll keep you posted.  I'm still reading code atm.
[01:26] <mvo> iwj: thanks
[01:26] <iwj> fschoep: I'm not really waiting on you, in that you're not blocking me.
[01:27] <doko> iwj: bug 56761
[01:27] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56761 in dpkg "dselect aborts on select" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/56761
[01:27] <fschoep> iwj: OK, that's fair - but it's kind of high prio, then?
[01:27] <iwj> fschoep: But the current situation wrt the Breaks in firefox is suboptimal and it needs to be made to go away either by having fixed themes or by changing firefox.
[01:27] <iwj> fschoep: So I agreed with mdz that if the theme wasn't ready by tomorrow I'd upload a new ff without Breaks.
[01:28] <iwj> fschoep: That has nearly no effect on you I think.
[01:28] <iwj> doko: Thanks.
[01:28] <fschoep> iwj: OK, when I finish the theme, it won't give you headaches if it's after tomorrow?
[01:28] <iwj> fschoep: No.
[01:28] <fschoep> iwj: OK, good to know.
[01:28] <iwj> But I think it would be good to have it sooner so we can test it, play with it, people can complain about things they don't like, etc.
[01:29] <iwj> doko: Ooo.  Thanks.  Will fix tomorrow.
[01:29] <fschoep> That's true, holds up for everything I think.
[01:29] <sfllaw> Any more quetsions for iwj?
[01:29] <iwj> doko: I know why that's happening and I should have thought of it ...
[01:30] <sfllaw> Right.  fschoep?
[01:30] <iwj> fschoep: Is it probably going to be after tomorrow ?  If so I can do the ff thing more or less straight away (after sleeping).
[01:30] <fschoep> Done:
[01:30] <fschoep>  * ubuntu-art-complete-highcontrast-icons, : find and document icons which need work
[01:30] <fschoep>  * starting up / assisting sound engineering, filtering proposals
[01:30] <fschoep>  * ubuntu-art-cd-dvd-artwork: communication with Jane / Kenneth on improving media package artwork
[01:30] <fschoep>  * attract some new active members to the artwork team
[01:30] <fschoep> Ongoing:
[01:30] <fschoep>  * art-polish-human-gtk-theme: summarize improvements, implement
[01:30] <fschoep> To-do:
[01:30] <fschoep>  * approve artwork production directions, then kick off production phase for community artwork
[01:30] <fschoep>  * update the Human icon priority list with the contents of the PDF to-do list
[01:30] <fschoep> iwj: yes, sorry to disappoint you.
[01:30] <iwj> fschoep: No problem; that doesn't cause me trouble.  It's good to know.  Thanks.
[01:32] <fschoep> Well... Anyone?
[01:32] <sfllaw> I suppose you were very clear!  :)
[01:32] <sfllaw> pitti?
[01:32] <pitti> Done:
[01:32] <pitti>  * automated-problem-reports:
[01:32] <pitti>   - some tweaks and bug fixes, added to ubuntu-desktop, announced to u-d-a
[01:32] <pitti>   - wrote tool for regenerating apport report backtraces with symbols
[01:32] <pitti>   - some thoughts how to improve the kernel<->apport protocol, to be discussed again at the sprint with BenC, seb128, and anyone else interested (registered slot on wiki page)
[01:32] <pitti>  * mentored Kees Cook for security updates
[01:32] <pitti>  * many pkg-create-dbgsym fixes
[01:32] <pitti>  * security updates: krb5, gnupg2, heartbeat, binutils, imagemagick
[01:32] <pitti>  * some general bug fixing
[01:33] <pitti>  * SoC project (apt-offline): horrible state, no way to get this ready by Monday; I deem the bounty failed, but maybe he'll continue working on it after Soc
[01:33] <pitti> To Do:
[01:33] <pitti>  * apt-get-debug-symbols: implement rookery side of ddeb cowboying once infinity finished the buildd side
[01:33] <pitti>  * have fun on distro sprint
[01:33] <pitti>  * vacation week!!!
[01:33] <Riddell> you're on holiday during distro sprint?
[01:33] <seb128> pitti: you are on VAC during the sprint? ;)
[01:33] <pitti> the week after
[01:34] <seb128> ah, ok ;)
[01:34] <sfllaw> The apport stuff looks very good.
[01:34] <iwj> I'm on holiday that week too.
[01:34] <pitti> seb128: of course not, we need to drink champagner together
[01:34] <sfllaw> It will make triaging a lot faster.
[01:34] <sfllaw> So thanks.
[01:34] <pitti> you're welcome :)
[01:34] <seb128> pitti: and schnaps too :p
[01:34] <infinity> pitti: Your update failed to mention if she said "yes".
[01:34] <pitti> let's hope that it'll get even better during the spring
[01:34] <pitti> s/g$/t/
[01:34] <pitti> infinity: she did!
[01:34] <sfllaw> pitti: Congrats!
[01:35] <pitti> http://www.piware.de/verlobung.jpg
[01:35] <mvo> CONGRATS pitti
[01:35] <infinity> pitti: See, that's the only news worth reporting. :)
[01:35] <pitti> thanks
[01:35] <zul> congrats
[01:35] <iwj> pitti: Excellent :-).
[01:35] <seb128> pitti: Congrats ;)
[01:35] <ajmitch> congrats pitti :)
[01:36] <sfllaw> doko?
[01:36] <pitti> so, as I threatened, prepare for champagner next week
[01:36] <doko> I was waiting for the champagne ...
[01:36] <doko> - this week
[01:36] <doko>   - edgy-toolchain: look at and finally find the cause for the gcc build
[01:36] <doko>     failures on powerpc, took too long.
[01:36] <doko>     state of edgy-toolchain: mostly implemented. remaining bugs/bits should
[01:36] <doko>     be addressed next week (libstdc++ link errors).
[01:36] <doko>   - some more tests with -mtune=generic, enabled now on i386 and amd64 in
[01:36] <doko>     gcc-4.1 and gcj-4.1.
[01:36] <doko>   - edgy+1-toolchain: look at the sparc biarch build failures in gcc-4.2
[01:36] <doko>     / gcc-snapshot; found it. the sparc developer machine is SLOW! where are
[01:36] <doko>     the niagaras?!
[01:36] <doko>   - java-roadmap: updated gcj-4.1, packaged gcj-4.2 with the new libgcj-bc;
[01:36] <doko>     rebuilt and updated required packages, updated java-gcj-compat,
[01:37] <doko>     updated and rebuilt the gnome java bindings (jni libraries), eclipse update
[01:37] <doko>     will need some UVF exceptions for java libraries.
[01:37] <doko>     some phone calls for packaging coordination.
[01:37] <doko>   - openoffice.org: OOo 2.0.4~m1 test build; would like to upload the 2.0.4rc1
[01:37] <doko>     to edgy (mdz?). glad to read the job offer for an OOo maintainer :)
[01:37] <doko>   - other: sun-java5 update; considering upload to dapper-updates after some
[01:37] <doko>     days.
[01:37] <doko>   - python-roadmap: no news
[01:37] <doko>   - python2.5: updated to python2.5~rc1, upload tomorrow
[01:37] <doko>   - other specs: no progress
[01:37] <doko> - next week
[01:37] <doko>   - stop uploading toolchain packages, the buildd's will need the time for OOo ;-)
[01:37] <doko>   - sprint: focus on toolchain bugs, java-roadmap, python2.5, ongoing OOo work.
[01:37] <pitti> wow, doko was really busy
[01:37] <infinity> Or just likes to type. :)
[01:38] <iwj> Oh, I'd just like to say:
[01:38] <sfllaw> doko: You'll have to talk to mdz when he gets back online.
[01:38] <iwj> ~++
[01:38] <pitti> well, -changes was full of dokoisms, too :)
[01:38] <sfllaw> Hey, hey!
[01:38] <sfllaw> Keep it down, boys.
[01:38] <doko> pitti: missed your fastjar updates ...
[01:38] <pitti> doko: no biggie, they are still on my list, too
[01:38] <doko> sfllaw: yes, maybe needs to wait until Monday
[01:38] <rodarvus> doko, regarding the OOo maintainer - have you talked with Pavel Janik? he is (or was) he biggest community contributer, back in my OOo time. Also he did some work for Novell, but it looks like he doesn't works there anymore (but I might be wrong)
[01:39] <rodarvus> I haven't talked with him, but I think he could be a great maintainer of OOo
[01:39] <Keybuk> what will doko do if he doesn't maintain OOo
[01:40] <doko> rodarvus: he's working on his own, and AFAIK all job offers are for full timers; I'be at OOoCon in September; hope to meet some people there
[01:40] <rodarvus> *nods*
[01:40] <doko> Keybuk: I'll find another office package ;)
[01:41] <mvo> doko: write one!
[01:41] <pitti> doko: you enjoy pain, don't you? :-P
[01:41] <sfllaw> Any other questions?
[01:41] <doko> pitti: yes, I love ssp ;-P
[01:41] <zul> i thought i was the one who enjoyed pain
[01:42] <pitti> zul: it's not limited to just one person, don't worry :)
[01:42] <sfllaw> mvo?
[01:42] <zul> pitti: oh ok...thank god
[01:42] <mvo> Did:
[01:42] <mvo> - apt:
[01:42] <mvo>   * merged ddtp support into apt, python-apt, synaptic, libapt-front, adept (rebuild aptitude too)
[01:42] <mvo>   * uploaded first ddtp tarball to the archive, a lp problem prevents full usage currently
[01:42] <mvo>   * added "--fix-policy" switch to apt (works like fix- borken and looks for not-satisfied recommends)
[01:42] <mvo>   * announced the --install-recommends support in apt
[01:42] <mvo> - gnome-app-install:
[01:42] <mvo>   * added better integration of the popcon data in gnome-app-install (sortable popularity column)
[01:42] <mvo>   * fix in the icon extraction code
[01:42] <mvo>   (should we enable it by default with next upload?)
[01:42] <mvo>   * work on the g-a-i cache (cPickle) branch (40% startup time reduction)
[01:42] <mvo> - gnome-system-tools/system-tools-backends work
[01:42] <mvo> - bug triage
[01:42] <mvo> - misc (update-manager, update-notifier, dist-upgrader, new realplayer dapper-commerical,apt)
[01:42] <mvo> Blocked:
[01:42] <mvo> * review of the "AlwaysEnableUniverseMultiverse" spec
[01:42] <mvo> Will do:
[01:43] <mvo> - devel meeting in wiesbaden
[01:43] <iwj> mvo: Thanks for that --auto-deconfigure change in apt, btw.
[01:43] <mvo> cheers
[01:43] <Riddell> mvo: anything I should look at with respect to AlwaysEnableUniverseMultiverse and adept?
[01:44] <mvo> Riddell: it is not accepted yet, I guess we can talk about it in wiesbaden
[01:44] <mvo> Riddell: there is a "plan b" in the spec :)
[01:44] <Riddell> ok
[01:45] <sfllaw> Questions?
[01:45] <iwj> mvo:
[01:45] <iwj> You have a bit of time at the sprint to talk about the suggest-packages-for-filetypes ?
[01:45] <iwj> You can tell me what you've done and I'll pick it up.
[01:46] <iwj> Shouldn't take too long.
[01:46] <mvo> iwj: I except so, yes. the gnome-app-install bits should be more or less done (modulo further startup optimizations)
[01:46] <iwj> Right.
[01:47] <sfllaw> ogra?
[01:47] <ogra> * this-week:
[01:47] <ogra>  - thinclient-local-devices many good changes in the implementation, nearly done, waiting for ltspfs/d MiR and promotion to main, floppy handling missing yet
[01:47] <ogra>  - student-control-panel-completion parts of the dbus interface implemented
[01:47] <ogra>  - gnome-screensaver update and bugfix
[01:47] <ogra> * next-week:
[01:47] <ogra>  - finish thinclient-local-devices
[01:47] <ogra>  - finish student-control-panel-completion
[01:47] <ogra>  - implement ltsp-dhcpd-autogeneration
[01:47] <ogra>  - start on fully-automatic-swap-server with rodarvus
[01:47] <ogra> * specs: 
[01:47] <ogra>  - ltsp-dhcpd-autogeneration (started/suspended, resume planned before knot-2 to have it in there for testing)
[01:48] <ogra>  - student-control-panel-completion: (waiting for approval, slow progress)
[01:48] <ogra>  - ltsp-daily-image-tarballs: (in progress, scripts and tarballs available at http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ltsp-tarballs/)
[01:48] <ogra>  - ltsp-convergence: (no progress, multi distro meeting sept. 14th-19th)
[01:48] <ogra>  - ltsp-netboot-enhancement: (no progress debian patches applied locally)
[01:48] <ogra>  - thinclient-local-devices (good progress)
[01:48] <ogra>  - fully-automatic-swap-server (no progress)
[01:48] <ogra>  - ltsp-login-and-session-handling (no progress yet)
[01:48] <ogra>  - edubuntu-xfce-desktop (no progress yet)
[01:49] <sfllaw> Questions?
[01:49] <pitti> ogra: let's sit together and finish the ltsp mount stuff
[01:49] <pitti> ogra: i. e. the suid mount wrapper and the gnome-vfs bug fix you wanted me to do
[01:50] <pitti> ogra: (next week)
[01:50] <ogra> pitti, sbalneav shuld have done the last bits ... i think he sent you the last changes
[01:50] <pitti> he did, will audit it tomorrow
[01:50] <ogra> yep
[01:50] <ogra> i thin its nearly done ...
[01:50] <ogra> *think
[01:51] <ogra> but lets sit down for the gnome-vfs stuff (also the cd thing is bothering me)
[01:51] <ogra> i'll bring my thin client and a bunch of local devcies ...
[01:51] <sbalneav> ogra: should we file a bug about g-v-m adding stuff in /tmp?
[01:52] <ogra> sbalneav, not if i'm working face to face with pitti on it anyway ;)
[01:52] <sbalneav> ah, ok :)
[01:52] <iwj> suid mount wrapper> Time for me to plug userv again ? :-)
[01:52] <ogra> btw, for anyone who didnt know it, that localdevice implementation is the sexiest ever !
[01:53] <ogra> thanks to sbalneav !
[01:53] <ogra> its completely desktop independent and i didnt need to make seb128 unhappy with ugly nautilus scripthacking ;)
[01:54] <seb128> cool :)
[01:54] <ogra> yep, we mount in /media now ... nautilus just picks it up :)
[01:55] <seb128> nice
[01:55] <seb128> sfllaw_: only 5 min before timeout for the meeting, can we move on?
[01:55] <sfllaw> rodarvus
[01:55] <rodarvus> Done:
[01:55] <rodarvus>  * Much Edubuntu administrativia
[01:55] <rodarvus>  * Planning OLPC Edubuntu Effort
[01:55] <rodarvus>  * X.Org bugfixing
[01:55] <rodarvus>  * Preparing for Wiesbaden Developers Sprint
[01:55] <rodarvus> Todo:
[01:55] <rodarvus>  * Wiesbaden Developers Sprint
[01:55] <rodarvus>    - X.Org bugfixing
[01:55] <rodarvus>    - Discuss OLPC effort with (at least) mdz and ubuntu-archive team, others welcome too :)
[01:55] <rodarvus>    - Work on fully-automatic-swap-server (pair programming with ogra)
[01:56] <sfllaw> Questions?
[01:56] <sfllaw> Keybuk?
[01:57] <seb128> 3min :p
[01:57] <rodarvus> >:-)
[01:57] <sfllaw> seb128: We started 5 minutes late as people were still showing up.
[01:57] <sfllaw> We've got 8.
[01:57] <seb128> sfllaw: we always do but we are on time usually ;)
[01:57] <sfllaw> That would be cool.
[01:58] <sfllaw> Well, Keybuk doesn't seem to be present...
[01:58] <sfllaw> seb128?
[01:58] <seb128> This week:
[01:58] <seb128> - caught up with most of my mails and SoC lag
[01:58] <seb128> - bug triage, bug triage, bug triage: a good number of bugs triaged or fixed but almost as many new ones coming
[01:58] <seb128> - worked on evolution, evolution-data-server, evolution-exchange news versions from GNOME 2.14.3 for dapper-proposed
[01:58] <seb128> - backport some desktop fixes to dapper-updates
[01:58] <seb128> - some GNOME updates to edgy
[01:58] <seb128> . 
[01:58] <seb128> Next week:
[01:58] <seb128> - distro sprint to Wiesbaden
[01:58] <seb128> sfllaw: BTW thank you for the 4 bug changes you did on desktop bugs during the week :p
[01:59] <sfllaw> seb128: Was that sarcasm I detect?
[01:59] <sfllaw> Questions?
[01:59] <seb128> sfllaw: maybe ;)
[01:59] <sfllaw> Done
[01:59] <sfllaw>  * UbuntuBugDay
[01:59] <sfllaw>  * Bug triaging
[01:59] <sfllaw> To do
[01:59] <sfllaw>  * Prepare for UbuntuBugDay at the summit
[01:59] <sfllaw>  * Bug triaging
[01:59] <sfllaw>  * E-mailing CEGEPs about interns
[01:59] <seb128> sfllaw: an hand on desktop bugs would still be appreciated :)
[01:59] <sfllaw> seb128: I've been triaging across the board, as the number still keep climbing.
[02:00] <sfllaw> seb128: We have done bug days for desktop bugs, though.
[02:00] <seb128> right
[02:00] <Keybuk> sfllaw: sorry, got caught by a typing break there
[02:00] <sfllaw> Keybuk: I know the feeling.
[02:00] <sfllaw> You're up.
[02:00] <Keybuk> Done:
[02:00] <Keybuk>  * ReplacementInit: now only a few final bits to tidy up, notably initial console settings.
[02:00] <Keybuk>  * BootMessageLogging: implemented as part of upstart
[02:00] <Keybuk> To do:
[02:00] <Keybuk>  * Package upstart and get it into the archive (pre-Wiesbaden)
[02:00] <Keybuk>  * Wiesbaden: have everyone test while there, and with high bandwidth to me if things go wrong
[02:00] <Keybuk>  * Wiesbaden: UUID migration needs help from other people (LVM, MD, RAID, devmapper, sparc, ia64, hppa, PowerPC, etc.)
[02:00] <seb128> sfllaw: we have some people working on them which is nice, but having an hand from the QA master would be appreciated too ;)
[02:01] <sfllaw> Questions?
[02:02] <pitti> Keybuk: does it work? :)
[02:02] <sfllaw> rodarvus: I went an rejected some today.
[02:02] <rodarvus> (bug triaging X.Org bugs, I mean)
[02:02] <Keybuk> pitti: yeah, very well
[02:02] <rodarvus> sfllaw, thanks
[02:03] <pitti> Keybuk: \o/
[02:03] <sfllaw> Thanks everyone!  Please update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelTeamMeeting20060817.
[02:03] <rodarvus> I was unable to read my "bugs" mailbox today :/
[02:03] <iwj> I just wanted to say quickly that if I don't forget I'll have two UK->Euro adapters with me and only need one.  So if you're one short do ask me.  (I was going to post this to distro-team but it's not working for me atm.)
[02:04] <ogra> pitti, btw, getting the MiR approved for ltspfs/d would speed me up a bit ;)
[02:04] <pitti> ah, yeah, MIR is haunting me again
[02:04] <ogra> iwj, i'll bring a collection of powerstrips with me ... so we can multiply the adapters
[02:04] <sfllaw> I need to find North American power strips that won't short at 240V.
[02:04] <ogra> aww, indeed that doesnt wotk in that direction ... ignore me :)
[02:04] <iwj> I don't think I have a spare 4-way, unfortunately.
[02:05] <iwj> sfllaw: Ug.
[02:05] <infinity> sfllaw: Just get European plugs for all your auto-switching gear.  It's what I do.
[02:05] <infinity> sfllaw: Much less hassle.
[02:05] <iwj> sfllaw: You could buy a lead for your laptop with a sensible plug.
[02:06] <iwj> Now we'll be in the middle of a town I can buy a euro lead for my laptop.
[02:06] <infinity> sfllaw: I have a US, AU, EU, and UK plug for my laptop, just pack what I feel is appropriate.
[02:06] <Keybuk> I can't seem to find my EU one ;'(
[02:06] <Keybuk> I usually bring them all, as there's always *some* kind of power strip nearby, and not always the one you'd expect
[02:06] <iwj> Bed for me now though.
[02:07] <doko> good night
[02:07] <iwj> ttfn all
[02:08] <pitti> thanks to all, and good night!
[02:08] <Keybuk> night all
[02:08] <fschoep> Thanks everyone and good night. See you next week.
[02:08] <seb128> 'night
[10:09] <shawarma> @schedule copenhagen
[10:09] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/Copenhagen: 22 Aug 18:00: Community Council | 23 Aug 14:00: Edubuntu | 29 Aug 22:00: Technical Board | 30 Aug 22:00: Edubuntu | 31 Aug 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team