[12:01] <tanath> baikonur: shouldn't be enough to worry about or be noticeable
[12:01] <tanath> baikonur: you need to install windows first, because it'll overwrite the mbr and you wouldn't be able to boot into ubuntu
[12:02] <tanath> baikonur: but with ubuntu installed 2nd, it'll let you install a boot loader (grub) that'll let you choose windows or ubuntu
[12:02] <Flannel> No.  you can recover : http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:02] <tanath> _tcc: yeh, try logging into a regular gnome session, and see if compiz appears there
[12:03] <_tcc> a regular gnome session?
[12:03] <tanath> baikonur: or, what Flannel said
[12:03] <majd> hey
[12:03] <majd> i just messed up
[12:03] <tanath> _tcc: at the login screen you should be able to choose your session.. gnome or xgl...
[12:03] <baikonur> do I need a /boot partition at the very beginning of the hard disk or is this only a problem with old computers?
[12:03] <_tcc> ok
[12:03] <_tcc> tanath, brb
[12:03] <tanath> _tcc: choose gnome
[12:03] <m0> i read the  link on wiki for xivd
[12:04] <avu> baikonur: that problem is long gone
[12:04] <m0> and I downloaded xvid codec from its website
[12:04] <m0> and I compiled ocnfigured and make && make install
[12:04] <m0> but I still can't view movies
[12:04] <m0> do I need to restart?
[12:04] <tanath> m0:
[12:04] <tanath> m0: no
[12:05] <tanath> m0: there are repositories you can add to install those codecs properly
[12:05] <baikonur> what's the advantage of a special partition just for the swap file?
[12:05] <m0> tanath:  i am trying to find how
[12:05] <guest1> Does the AMD64 build have any special customizations other than being built using 64-bit mode?
[12:05] <tanath> !codecs
[12:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:05] <tanath> m0: ^
[12:05] <m0> i read the first link
[12:06] <guest1> I have an Opteron server and wondering if I should use the i386 or AMD64 build
[12:06] <m0> the second link is movie editing
[12:06] <nicolas_> guest1: probably AMD64 will be faster
[12:06] <wind> with keyboard preferences what would the Fn key be for? (sony vaio laptop)
[12:06] <thedead1> Does anyone have time to help me?
[12:06] <_tcc> tanath, ok
[12:07] <wind> or is there a way to enable the Fn key
[12:07] <guest1> nicolas_, i don't care about binaries executing faster, i want better compatibility
[12:07] <Number_5> quest1 i have an amd64 and i use x86 build
[12:07] <nicolas_> guest1: compatibility with what?
[12:07] <tanath> _tcc: compiz there?
[12:07] <Snakehit> someone who haves a good guide for real newbies?
[12:07] <catadoxas> hey
[12:07] <guest1> nicolas_, im having trouble because our Opteron server has 2 raid cards in it
[12:07] <tanath> _tcc: go to apps > compiz > general > allscreens > options
[12:07] <guest1> nicolas_, the kernel fails to boot
[12:07] <tanath> _tcc: double-click active_plugins
[12:08] <catadoxas> i just fucked up my kernel config and did it again without removing the fucked up setup
[12:08] <_tcc> tanath, lol it's not there
[12:08] <guest1> nicolas_, says something about IRQ already taken, /dev/iop0
[12:08] <_tcc> !language
[12:08] <catadoxas> now it doesnt boot anymore
[12:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:08] <_tcc> catadoxas, ;) I just felt like doing that.
[12:08] <wind> anyone know?
[12:08] <catadoxas> where can I remove them compleetle
[12:08] <nicolas_> guest1: i386 (or i686 or k7) is usually more compatible with programs and stuff. AMD64 usually runs faster
[12:08] <s_v_e_n> Hi, How to find out , which paket to install to get the programm
[12:08] <tanath> _tcc: nuts... not sure what i did to get it there...
[12:08] <catadoxas> synaptic doesnt find them
[12:09] <_tcc> tanath, hrm, i have no idea how to set this up
[12:09] <_tcc> i don't really mess with the GUI
[12:09] <guest1> nicolas_, i386 is the default and what i am using
[12:09] <_tcc> i'm trying to emulate that guys style
[12:09] <_tcc> it's awesome
[12:09] <s_v_e_n> Hi, How to find out , which paket to install to get the programm 'lc' - i tryed to seach with apt-file but i dont think i get a good match
[12:09] <guest1> nicolas_, the problem is the iop0 IRQ conflict
[12:09] <atul> Hi every body
[12:09] <nicolas_> guest1: can't help you with the raid cards or the IRQ conflict, sorry
[12:09] <guest1> this is an I20 SCSI device
[12:09] <tanath> _tcc: try installing gset-compiz
[12:10] <lukaswayne9> How can I minimize a fullscreen X application?
[12:10] <_tcc> I can't find the packetge.
[12:10] <fyrestrtr> lukaswayne9: right click on its icon, minimize.
[12:10] <_tcc> packege
[12:10] <_tcc> package*!**!
[12:10] <tanath> lukaswayne9: alt+tab doesn't get you out? if not, there's prolly a kb shortcut for that app
[12:10] <catadoxas> if I installed a kernel like that "dpkg -r kernel-image-2.6.17.8_686_i386.deb
[12:10] <catadoxas> " how do i remove it
[12:10] <tanath> lukaswayne9: or other option
[12:11] <DrBanzai> Anybody know how to get minicom to talk to a serial device OTHER then a modem?
[12:11] <richiefrich> o.O
[12:11] <atul> can any body give me the link for Real Player
[12:11] <tanath> _tcc: install gset-compiz and then see if it's there
[12:11] <farous> catadoxas: the way you describe it with dpkg -r you remove the kernel :) not install it
[12:11] <lukaswayne9> tanath: i'd like to be able toggle between my games and gaim
[12:11] <catadoxas> em
[12:12] <catadoxas> thats what I tried
[12:12] <tanath> lukaswayne9: alt+tab doesn't work?
[12:12] <fyrestrtr> lukaswayne9: alt+tab
[12:12] <lukaswayne9> tanath: alt+tab doesn't work
[12:12] <catadoxas> it sais im must specify packages by their own names
[12:12] <catadoxas> etc
[12:12] <farous> catadoxas: so you did not install it you tries to remove it. in a terminal type man dpkg
[12:12] <_tcc> tanath, nope
[12:12] <fyrestrtr> atul: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:12] <lukaswayne9> fyrestrtr: tanath alt+tab works outside my fullscreen apsp, but when running a fullscreen app it doesn't
[12:12] <_tcc> might having gnome-compiz install have anything to do with it?
[12:12] <tanath> _tcc: did you run it?
[12:13] <ubuntu> qui parle franais?
[12:13] <blabi1> ok...stupid question i know, but i accidentally removed the garbage can from the bottom right panel, how do i get it back?
[12:13] <_tcc> tanath, i cannot find nor do i have it
[12:13] <fyrestrtr> blabi1: right click on the panel, add to panel.
[12:13] <Flannel> blabi1: right click, add to panel, then add the garbage thing
[12:13] <tanath> _tcc: sudo apt-get install gset-compiz
[12:13] <ubuntu> aider moi
[12:13] <_tcc> tanath, Couldn't find package gset-compiz
[12:13] <tanath> _tcc: if that doesn't work, you didn't add the repositories like the guide said...
[12:14] <soundray> !fr
[12:14] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:14] <_tcc> tanath, can you link me again?
[12:14] <ubuntu> who speak french?
[12:14] <soundray> ubuntu: the people in #ubuntu-fr do
[12:15] <ubuntu> help me
[12:15] <soundray> !helpme
[12:15] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:15] <DrBanzai> Anybody know how to get minicom to talk to a serial device OTHER then a modem?
[12:15] <tanath> _tcc: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168618
[12:15] <soundray> DrBanzai: what serial device
[12:15] <soundray> ?
[12:15] <m0> okay ,,,, In https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  it says Install the following packages to play most proprietary formats using Totem and Rhythmbox, which both come with Ubuntu.
[12:15] <m0> Now there are like 10 gstreamers
[12:16] <m0> how d I install it
[12:16] <DrBanzai> soundray, The console port on my ethernet switch
[12:16] <warlock__> !pastebin
[12:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:16] <ubuntu> comment configuer et installer dns?
[12:16] <m0> #
[12:16] <m0> gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[12:16] <m0> #
[12:16] <m0> gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[12:16] <ubuntu> rponder!!!
[12:16] <soundray> DrBanzai: just give it the proper device name (e.g. /dev/ttyS0) and it should be fine
[12:16] <antox> how can I add leading zeroes to a number to make a counter with a fixed digit-count in a shell-script?
[12:17] <ubuntu> parler fraais!!
[12:17] <DrBanzai> soundray, Ahh, SHOULD be...My minicom always says it's offline...how do I get it to go online?
[12:17] <soundray> antox: use seq with the -w switch
[12:17] <bbrazil> !fr
[12:17] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:17] <antox> soundray: 10x
[12:17] <ubuntu> ok merci
[12:17] <syntaxx> how can i start xorg?
[12:18] <m0> how do I install a package?
[12:18] <tanath> syntaxx: startx ?
[12:18] <jdahm> ##linux
[12:18] <ubuntu> oui mais je dbute moi
[12:18] <fyrestrtr> syntaxx: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:18] <tanath> m0: in synaptic or terminal?
[12:18] <syntaxx> tanath: it says command not found
[12:18] <m0> need to isntall this package according to that link gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[12:18] <soundray> DrBanzai: I'm not sure, but I think there is a configuration item somewhere where you can set it to ignore DTR or similar.
[12:18] <fyrestrtr> !synaptic > m0
[12:19] <tanath> odd
[12:19] <tanath> m0: if you have the repositories... sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[12:19] <tanath> m0: or find it in synaptic
[12:19] <m0> terminal I want to install it in terminal
[12:19] <m0> how do I get hte repositories?
[12:19] <tanath> m0: you sure you read the link? :P
[12:20] <m0> i read the description
[12:20] <m0> #
[12:20] <m0> nstall the following packages to play most proprietary formats using Totem and Rhythmbox, which both come with Ubuntu.
[12:20] <m0> #
[12:20] <m0> thats what it said....
[12:20] <ubuntu> aluno help me
[12:20] <m0> gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[12:20] <DanaG> Is it possible to make eth1 be called wlan0?
[12:20] <syntaxx> fyrestrtr: i just apt-get install xserver-xorg and trying out fluxbox bcoz i installed my ubuntu as base system install
[12:20] <DanaG> It's just a cosmetic issue.
[12:21] <fyrestrtr> syntaxx: oh okay.
[12:21] <syntaxx> fyrestrtr: i just wanna check out my desktop til the kubuntu-desktop is finished
[12:21] <soundray> DanaG: you'd have to modify and recompile the driver source. Not worth it
[12:21] <DanaG> Ah, okay.
[12:21] <tanath> m0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#what
[12:21] <DanaG> Well, then how about at least getting my wired eth0 to work with DHCP?
[12:21] <fyrestrtr> syntaxx: you need to configure X first.
[12:22] <tanath> m0: sorry, it's linked to on that page, but i guess it wasn't obvious
[12:22] <syntaxx> fyrestrtr: so how can i run it? startx says command not found
[12:22] <lummi> Does anyone know if it possible for a remote user to login via my server (which is allowed to login to serverX because my ip is allowed)?
[12:22] <syntaxx> fyrestrtr: yeah i done with configuring
[12:22] <DanaG> In SuSE it only worked if I checked "always request broadcast response", but I can find no such option in Ubuntu.
[12:22] <fyrestrtr> syntaxx: try /etc/init.d/xdm start
[12:22] <syntaxx> fyrestrtr: no such file or directory
[12:23] <fyrestrtr> you should have a startx somewhere, search for it.
[12:23] <fyrestrtr> or wait for kubuntu-desktop :)
[12:23] <sagarp> gnome-terminal in dapper now supprots transparency...does this mean that GTK also supports it?
[12:23] <ubuntu> parler franais deux second please!!
[12:23] <tanath> m0: fyi, the ways you install a package are normally with synaptic, or with apt-get in a terminal, or manually in a terminal by downloading the .deb package and running 'sudo dpkg -i package.deb'
[12:23] <syntaxx> fyrestrtr: lol waiting for 4hours? :D
[12:23] <damian_> I accidentally deleted my usr/share/pixmaps folder...does anyone know if I can get a replacement somewhere?
[12:24] <wind> how do i install the sonypi module?
[12:24] <_tcc> tanath, it still cannot find gset-compiz
[12:24] <DanaG> gset-compiz is obsolete.
[12:24] <_tcc> i updated and added the repos
[12:24] <m0> tanath: yea i guess I understand that, but I guess my problem is with reprosotorie
[12:24] <_tcc> not in that order :)
[12:25] <Ricesteam> Anyone have trouble skinning the Opera browser?
[12:25] <Sir_Fawnpug> Ricestream, try a sharp knife.
[12:25] <jvai> lol
[12:25] <Ricesteam> lol, but seriously
[12:25] <tanath> _tcc: you added these? deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ dapper main
[12:25] <tanath> deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main
[12:26] <syntaxx> fyrestrtr: oh well i locate startx but still no startx.. well i guess ill w8 for the kubuntu-desktop thanks
[12:26] <_tcc> tanath, yes
[12:26] <hakanw> damn, my ubuntu server has been up and running for 43 days. today we had to restart it, and now apache won't start. seems it isn't able to open the port 443. can someone help me? apache output is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20920
[12:26] <tanath> _tcc: then ran apt-get update, then apt-get install gset-compiz
[12:26] <_tcc> yes =)
[12:26] <DanaG> How can I fix my DHCP?
[12:26] <papo> hi
[12:26] <DanaG> (client.)
[12:27] <synic> hakanw: ps fax | grep apache
[12:27] <synic> hakanw: ps fax  |grep httpd
[12:27] <papo> what font does ubuntu use by default for the GUI (gnome stuff and everything non-fixed)
[12:27] <_tcc> DanaG, what is wrong with it?
[12:27] <DanaG> It can't get an IP.
[12:27] <richy> ciao raga;)
[12:27] <syntaxx> hakanw: seems to me the the port that he tries to bind to is already in use
[12:27] <_tcc> sudo dhclient
[12:27] <hakanw> synic: that's interesting. everytime I run that, I get 1 match but the pid keeps increasing by two for every time
[12:27] <richy> i have aproblem with my resolution
[12:27] <DanaG> As I said earlier:  "In SuSE it only worked if I checked "always request broadcast response", but I can find no such option in Ubuntu."
[12:28] <hakanw> $ ps fax | grep httpd
[12:28] <hakanw>  4200 pts/0    S+     0:00              \_ grep httpd
[12:28] <fourat> is there any 'GUI' application that is like Cain sniffer on windows ?
[12:28] <_tcc> DanaG, sudo dhclient
[12:28] <hakanw> ps fax | grep httpd
[12:28] <hakanw>  4202 pts/0    R+     0:00              \_ grep httpd
[12:28] <synic> hakanw: what about the apache one?
[12:28] <hakanw> etc.
[12:28] <richy> i'm blocked on 640x480
[12:28] <DanaG> Right now I have it set to manual IP.
[12:28] <richy> who i can sblock that?
[12:28] <syntaxx> hakanw: and i think you have installed apache and apache2
[12:28] <hakanw> syntaxx: I haven't
[12:28] <warlock__> !pastebin
[12:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:29] <hakanw> I am using a standard LAMP standard install
[12:29] <synic> hakanw: yah, that's actually just showing your grep process.  Does ps fax | grep apache show anything?
[12:29] <hakanw> synic: see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20921
[12:29] <syntaxx> hakanw: ps aux | grep apache
[12:29] <synic> hakanw: apache is already running
[12:29] <hakanw> why do I get the startup error then?
[12:30] <tanath> _tcc: try going here and downloading it manually http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/pool/main/g/gset-compiz/
[12:30] <synic> because it's already running... so it can't bind the ports.
[12:30] <hakanw> even when I try to restart the current process
[12:30] <fyrestrtr> is the error about 127.0.0.1 ?
[12:30] <syntaxx> hakanw: when boot does apache start too?
[12:30] <synic> /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[12:30] <syntaxx> hakanw: why do you have to use apachectl restart then?
[12:30] <synic> and make sure it's actually not running before you try to start it again.
[12:30] <tanath> _tcc: http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/pool/main/g/gset-compiz/gset-compiz_0.3.3-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[12:30] <hakanw> problem is, I restarted the computer
[12:30] <hakanw> after that the webserver doesn't work.
[12:31] <hakanw> so, I try to restart it with the init.d script
[12:31] <DanaG> That's odd: sudo dhclient works.
[12:31] <_tcc> tanath, i was about to do that, installed.
[12:31] <hakanw> and I get the error pasted.
[12:31] <syntaxx> hakanw: then you dont need to run apache restart
[12:31] <DanaG> But it won't work when set in network-admin.
[12:31] <synic> hakanw: stop it, and make sure it's stopped.
[12:31] <syntaxx> hakanw: just do apache start
[12:31] <_tcc> tanath, now wht?
[12:31] <hakanw> syntaxx: that doesn't help. it gives the same error
[12:31] <tanath> _tcc: k, then just run it and exit, and go back to gconf-editor
[12:31] <tanath> _tcc: see if that makes compiz appear
[12:31] <hakanw> synic: ok
[12:31] <syntaxx> hakanw: and if still try reconfiguring your apache again
[12:32] <_tcc> tanath, yes
[12:32] <hakanw> syntaxx: it's been running for more than a month, I can't start from scratch.
[12:32] <m0> test
[12:32] <tanath> _tcc: alrighty
[12:32] <hakanw> that's not very realistic
[12:32] <m0> hmm interesting,, i pressed a button to quit
[12:32] <tanath> _tcc: go to apps > compiz > general > allscreens > options
[12:32] <_tcc> ok
[12:32] <tanath> _tcc: double-click active_plugins
[12:32] <hakanw> synic: ok, it stopped.  then I tried to start it, and I get the same error about the address (port?) being in use
[12:32] <_tcc> ok
[12:33] <syntaxx> hakanw: do you have nmap?
[12:33] <DanaG> Hmm, now DHCP seems to work.
[12:33] <hakanw> syntaxx: it doesn't seem to be available, no.  this is a standard ubuntu-server LAMP install with no extras
[12:33] <DanaG> er, no.
[12:33] <tanath> _tcc: you want these: gconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place menu switcher
[12:33] <jdahm> I just installed ubuntu a few days ago and I really like it, but there are not too many packages for it, even in the universe and multiverse, is there any way to get more packages for it without just installing source?
[12:33] <tanath> _tcc: in that order
[12:34] <syntaxx> hakanw: ok then install nmap for you to make sure that the port you are running is available
[12:34] <tanath> _tcc: it's in the guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168618
[12:34] <hakanw> synic: does it have to do with my ssl virtual host conf?
[12:34] <pontifex> jdahm: do you have specific packages you're after?
[12:34] <ajcates> hello
[12:34] <DanaG> Ret removing ~/.gconf/apps/compiz.{i'm not sure}
[12:34] <DanaG> It will reset all compiz options.
[12:34] <DanaG> s/ret/try/
[12:35] <lwizardl> !nvidia
[12:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:35] <snoops> jdahm, what is it you're looking to get? Because from my point of view there are tens of thousands of applications in places like multiverse and universe
[12:35] <hakanw> syntaxx: I installed nmap, and ran "nmap localhost".  seems like https and http are both running
[12:35] <DanaG> !NetworkManager
[12:35] <ajcates> i can't get x to start
[12:35] <tanath> jdahm: there's quite a few... but you can install pretty much any .deb packages. there's many in the debian repositories, and elsewhere
[12:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about NetworkManager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:35] <Remy> !grub
[12:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:35] <hakanw> as well as mysql and ftp (but those work)
[12:35] <jdahm> pontifex, well I would have thought that at least irssi would be in the universe
[12:35] <ajcates> it says there are errors and stuff
[12:35] <syntaxx> hakanw: then you have 2 webserver installed
[12:35] <DanaG> What does NetworkManager do?  Just wireless?
[12:36] <syntaxx> hakanw: the only thing to make sure you only have 1 try sudo apt-get remove apache
[12:36] <tanath> jdahm: there's also restricted repositories though
[12:36] <jdahm> tanath, oh, is irssi in any of those?
[12:36] <hakanw> syntaxx: where would the other be?  it's not showing up in the processes
[12:36] <tanath> jdahm: yeah
[12:36] <hakanw> hmm
[12:36] <jdahm> tanath, which?
[12:37] <syntaxx> hakanw: it may different name try netstat -a
[12:37] <tanath> jdahm: not sure... lemme paste my sources.list
[12:37] <hakanw> is the standard apache2 supposed to be in usr/sbin/apache2? that one is running
[12:37] <warlock__> !pastebin
[12:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:37] <jdahm> tanath, ok pm or pastbin
[12:37] <syntaxx> hakanw: well i think so.. im not compilin my apache thru apt i always use source coz i need some options in it
[12:37] <curdaneta> hi
[12:38] <Tomosaur> guys I'm having a very very minor problem, but it's a little annoying: every time I open up a terminal, I see my environment being set
[12:38] <syntaxx> hakanw: have u try sudo apt-get remove apache?
[12:38] <snoops> jdahm irssi is in main
[12:38] <Tomosaur> anyone got any ideas?
[12:38] <pontifex> jdahm: it is
[12:38] <pontifex> jdahm: I am using it right now
[12:38] <hakanw> syntaxx: what should I look for in the netstat output? there's this
[12:38] <hakanw> tcp6       0      0 *:www                   *:*                     LISTEN
[12:38] <hakanw> tcp6       0      0 *:https                 *:*                     LISTEN
[12:38] <hakanw> among other things.
[12:38] <lmanul> Tomosaur: what do you see, for example?
[12:38] <tanath> jdahm: http://pastebin.ca/136813
[12:38] <thedead1> Hello, does anyone have a min to help meout?
[12:38] <jdahm> pontifex, hmm lemme search again but I didnt see it the first time
[12:38] <pontifex> jdahm: in fact irssi is in main
[12:38] <Tomosaur> declare -x XAUTHORITY="/home/tom/.Xauthority"
[12:39] <Tomosaur> that's the last line it echos
[12:39] <hakanw> syntaxx: is that really safe to run? I really don't want to accidently remove my whole webserver
[12:39] <_tcc> tanath, all those things are already in it
[12:39] <Tomosaur> but it echoes everything :/
[12:39] <VikJES> thedead1: what's up?
[12:39] <lmanul> Tomosaur: 1) can you type this :  echo $SHELL
[12:39] <syntaxx> hakanw: it is safe coz apt-get remove is just removing the software not the configuration
[12:39] <_tcc> compiz.real: No composite extension
[12:39] <lmanul> Tomosaur: and tell me what it says
[12:39] <tanath> _tcc: yeah, but you prollly have others that you DON'T want there
[12:39] <_tcc> I get that error when I try and run it.
[12:39] <Tomosaur> lmanul, /bin/bash
[12:39] <syntaxx> hakanw: if you want to remove the whole application and its conf you'll use dpkg --purge apache
[12:39] <hakanw> syntaxx: still, I don't want to remove apache ... would it tell me whether I have two of them?
[12:40] <lmanul> Tomosaur: Okay, so try and have a look at the  ~/.bashrc  file
[12:40] <snoops> jdahm you're using synaptic to find it?
[12:40] <tanath> _tcc: make sure you only have those ones
[12:40] <lmanul> Tomosaur: like   gedit ~/.bashrc
[12:40] <jdahm> snoops, hmm its in synaptic, but not add/remove packages
[12:40] <Tomosaur> lmanul, yeah I've done that, but there's nothing I can see :S
[12:40] <jdahm> snoops, why is that the case?
[12:40] <thedead1> VikJES I was following the persistantusbdrive wiki on the website, and when I try and boot for the first time I get an error saying "L 99 99 99...99 99"
[12:40] <Tomosaur> lmanul, I mean nothing I can see which would cause it
[12:40] <syntaxx> hakanw: try sudo dpkg -l | grep apache
[12:40] <tanath> _tcc: IIRC it was the shadow one messing you up
[12:40] <snoops> yeah add/remove packages is only a tiny subset of the repositories
[12:40] <lmanul> Tomosaur: have you tried other "dot" files like .login or such ?
[12:41] <_DjScrew_> can anyone help a noob auto mount ntfs partitions?
[12:41] <jdahm> snoops, whyy? thats a bad system
[12:41] <Tomosaur> oh wait lol, just fixed it ^_^
[12:41] <Tomosaur> lmanul, it was a bad extra path I'd put in, must've missed it earlier :P
[12:41] <syntaxx> hakanw: and if it doesnt show up try changing apache to httpd
[12:41] <lmanul> Tomosaur: Oh, good, solved then?
[12:41] <snoops> as far as I'm aware add/remove is only for very popular applications approved by the ubuntu guys
[12:41] <syntaxx> hakanw: dont paste in my private msg youll get ignored
[12:41] <Tomosaur> lmanul, yup cheers for your help :)
[12:41] <VikJES> thedead1: somehow 'lilo' is complaining about something, sorry i'm not familiar with this document on the wiki, let me look at it...
[12:42] <lmanul> Tomosaur: no problem :)
[12:42] <_tcc> tanath,
[12:42] <hakanw> syntaxx: sorry, thought that was kosher.
[12:42] <_tcc> gnome-window-decorator: Screen 0 on display ":0.0" already has a decoration manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current decoration manager.
[12:42] <jdahm> snoops, ahh cool, well all the pacakges I was looking for I found, thanks
[12:42] <Gun_Smoke> Guys are there any apps out there for linux like os X's xbench? www.xbench.com ?
[12:42] <syntaxx> hakanw: try sudo dpkg -l | grep httpd
[12:42] <tanath> _tcc: when did you get that?
[12:42] <_tcc> when i run it
[12:42] <hakanw> syntaxx: nothing
[12:42] <tanath> _tcc: run what?
[12:42] <thedead1> VikJES thanks! here is the link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[12:42] <_tcc> i was setting it up on another guide`
[12:42] <_tcc> `thefuture`
[12:42] <snoops> jdahm cool :)
[12:42] <lmanul> Gun_Smoke: what does it do?
[12:43] <syntaxx> hakanw: or just try apt-get remove apache it will ask you if you really wants to remove your apache so dont worry
[12:43] <tanath> _tcc: yeh, remove all changes made according to any other guides, and follow the one i gave you
[12:43] <k122901> hello
[12:43] <lmanul> Gun_Smoke: http://www.gameminutes.net/video.php?console=NES&name=Gun_Smoke  :-pp
[12:43] <antox> syntaxx: maybe it is apache2 ;)
[12:43] <syntaxx> hakanw: if it ask you then try apt-get remove apache2 if it still asked you then you have 2 apache running
[12:43] <k122901> how is eveyone
[12:43] <hakanw> syntaxx: it says "apache" is not installed.
[12:43] <_tcc> tanath, ok
[12:43] <tanath> _tcc: in particular, any changes made to /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom
[12:43] <hakanw> so only one apache, I'm pretty sure
[12:43] <Ych_> whats the prog to manage volume?
[12:43] <jdahm> snoops, just wondering, is there a command-line app similar to apt?
[12:43] <Gun_Smoke> lmanul:  Pretty much bench tests your entire system.. And gives you a score on performance.
[12:43] <syntaxx> hakanw: hmm weird
[12:43] <DanaG> I wonder what would happen if you used the _old_ 3ddesktop within XGL/Compiz
[12:43] <hakanw> I really haven't installed anything. it's a vanilla ubuntu-server LAMP install
[12:44] <tanath> _tcc: you do have direct rendering, right?
[12:44] <H080J03> can some one pirvet talk me, i have no X and need some help getting it back
[12:44] <_tcc> yea
[12:44] <hakanw> does it have to do with the hostname warning before?
[12:44] <syntaxx> hakanw: are you sure your firewall is up for the past 43days?
[12:44] <_DjScrew_> !ntfs
[12:44] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[12:44] <tanath> _tcc: k, then you're good to go
[12:44] <VikJES> thedead1: you get this error when you try to boot from you USB drive NOT from you HD?
[12:44] <hakanw> syntaxx: no firewall except the built-in one
[12:44] <_tcc> tanath, thanks brb!
[12:44] <hakanw> it has an external IP
[12:45] <gidim> Wow.
[12:45] <thedead1> VikJES yes, when I try and boot off the USB drive with NO CD in the drive
[12:45] <lmanul> Gun_Smoke: maybe try apt-cache search benchmark and see if there is anything you like among those
[12:45] <VikJES> thedead1: I was just worried that you hosed your HD by mistake
[12:45] <gidim> This doesn't bode well.
[12:45] <syntaxx> hakanw: hmm well i dont have any ideas left why your experiencing that problem though.. coz for me if i dont get it right i probably reconfigure it
[12:46] <hakanw> syntaxx: what about that hostname warning?
[12:46] <H080J03> can some one help me plz i need some help getting X back, try and pm me, i don't know if it will work
[12:46] <hakanw> syntaxx: apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[12:46] <hakanw> that's right before the fatal error
[12:46] <gidim> So um, anyone know how I can delete files from an NTFS drive under Dapper?
[12:46] <gidim> Without buying a driver.
[12:46] <lmanul> H080J03: tried something like sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[12:47] <syntaxx> hakanw: ok try go to your apache2 conf and change the servername 127.0.0.1 to your fqdn
[12:47] <Flannel> !tell gidim about fuse
[12:47] <thedead1> VikJES I have a NTFS hd, and it works fine
[12:47] <tanath> gidim: ntfsprogs package should do it.. i think
[12:47] <thedead1> VikJES i just get that error when I boot off the usb key
[12:47] <mooseman> heyt
[12:47] <hakanw> syntaxx: I think my hosts/hostname files are wrong somehow
[12:47] <mooseman> does anybody know a driver for a dell aio 922?
[12:47] <syntaxx> hakanw: to your gunner.blha.blah something then try
[12:47] <syntaxx> hakanw: type hostname
[12:47] <hakanw> when I tried to edit the name of the server, I changed those, and after that I always got that warning
[12:47] <VikJES> thedead1: I was about to was you if you did this from windows or ubuntu...
[12:47] <hakanw> hostname
[12:47] <hakanw> gunnar
[12:48] <VikJES> thedead1: to ask you I meant
[12:48] <syntaxx> hakanw: ok check your /etc/hosts
[12:48] <gidim> Flannel: Oh, I have that installed, I can read and write, but I can't delete. I really want to delete to get a better idea of what I need to backup before formatting the 300GB NTFS into EXT3 and breaking completely free of MS evil.
[12:48] <lwizardl> hi
[12:48] <hakanw> syntaxx: cat /etc/hosts
[12:48] <hakanw> 127.0.0.1       localhost
[12:48] <hakanw> 127.0.1.1       gunnar
[12:48] <syntaxx> im wondering why ubuntu doesnt ask for your domain name?
[12:48] <hakanw> (before the ipv6 junk)
[12:48] <mrproper> How do I get suspend working in ubuntu?
[12:48] <mooseman> has anybody got a dell aio 922 to work with ubuntu?
[12:49] <lwizardl> i have the nvidia drivers installed and now i still can't get higher than 640x480
[12:49] <Flannel> gidim: writing is deleting... unless that driver doesn't support deleting
[12:49] <thedead1> VikJES I made the key in linux, booting off the live CD
[12:49] <gidim> I'm running Apache2 under Ubuntu and it works fine, I had to set permissions on some of the folders.
[12:49] <whaley> lwizardl: is your xorg.conf configured properly?
[12:49] <tanath> gidim: tried ntfsprogs?
[12:49] <VikJES> thedead1: Ok, let me read the document, give 5 mins
[12:49] <syntaxx> hakanw: ok try putting localhost.localdomain localhost change the 127.0.0.1 localhost to 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
[12:49] <lmanul> mrproper: Dapper?
[12:49] <gidim> Flannel: I use writing as in I can modify existing files and save, but I can't create new files in certain directories, I guess because of fragmentation.
[12:49] <ajcates> help me i can't start X
[12:49] <lwizardl> whaley: should be i removed the 1200x res becuase my monitor can't handle it
[12:49] <thedead1> VikJES ok perfect, do you wanna use PM?
[12:49] <lwizardl> it says nv
[12:50] <lmanul> mrproper: Do you get the "Suspend" button while logging out?
[12:50] <gidim> And I can't delete anything.
[12:50] <mooseman> can anybody help me please?
[12:50] <hakanw> syntaxx: can I do that without also changing the "hostname" file?
[12:50] <mrproper> lmanul, I have a Hibernate button.  Use that?
[12:50] <whaley> lwizardl: change nv to nvidia
[12:50] <hakanw> syntaxx: last time I did the wrong order, and after that sudo didn't work :)(
[12:50] <syntaxx> hakanw: yes
[12:50] <lmanul> mrproper: They are slightly different, but Hibernate should be fine
[12:50] <lwizardl> whaley: did that and x fails
[12:50] <lmanul> mrproper: Suspend makes your PC "asleep"
[12:50] <VikJES> thedead1: good idea
[12:50] <whaley> lwizardl: do you have the right nvidia drivers installed?
[12:51] <avu> mrproper: suspend is suspend to ram, hibernate suspend to disk
[12:51] <whaley> what is your card?
[12:51] <DanaG> The Ubuntu kernel does not have suspend2.
[12:51] <ajcates> a;slfkdj
[12:51] <Okto> mooseman, just ask, mabe someone has an answer
[12:51] <quad3d> ppl should get kick in the head...
[12:51] <lwizardl> i have the glx installed
[12:51] <quad3d> ops, mt
[12:51] <syntaxx> hakanw: now your hostname should have 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost and 127.0.0.1 gunnar
[12:51] <mooseman> okto i already did
[12:51] <DanaG> Custom kernels don't have ipw3945
[12:51] <lmanul> mrproper: Hibernate doesn't use any power, but first saves everything on the hard disk so that when you boot again, you find everything as it was
[12:51] <whaley> lwizardl: which card do you have?
[12:51] <ajcates> how do you uninstall XGL and go back to normal X?
[12:51] <thedead1> VikJES let me just register
[12:51] <mooseman> im trying to help somebody setup their dell aio 922 with ubuntu but i cant find a working driver
[12:51] <hakanw> syntaxx: after I save the hosts file with thpose changes?
[12:51] <Remy> !javac
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about javac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <lwizardl> onboard geforce nv18
[12:51] <Remy> !java
[12:51] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:51] <mooseman> i heard it uses the same drivers as Lexmark x5270 but i cant find those either
[12:51] <syntaxx> hakanw: then try starting your apache again
[12:52] <m0> you could download the binary file from java.sun
[12:52] <m0> and then install that binary file from
[12:52] <hakanw> syntaxx: when I type "hostname" I still get "gunnar" back
[12:52] <DanaG> You might need the nvidia-glx-legacy.
[12:52] <m0> chmod +x *.bin && sudo ./*.bin
[12:52] <syntaxx> hakanw: thats ok try restarting your apache
[12:52] <hakanw> syntaxx: still getting "apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName"
[12:53] <syntaxx> hakanw: if you still having the same error try joining #apache
[12:53] <hakanw> maybe I need to change my apache conf too, one sec
[12:53] <lmosher> I'm running ubuntu on 64-bit and I'm running into a weird issue. In order to get flash to work, I installed a 32-bit firefox/flash/java. However, I also want to install Azureus, but that wants the 64-bit java. I could force the i686 of Azureus, but that would install a LOT of i686 pkgs. Is there any way to make both firefox and Azureus happy?
[12:53] <gunnar> hakanw : Whats with this "gunnar" stuff?
[12:53] <lwizardl> whaley:  "NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - nForce GPU] 
[12:53] <hakanw> gunnar: it's the name of my server :)
[12:53] <whaley> lwizardl: geforce4 should work with that set of drivers then
[12:53] <finfe> hello
[12:54] <burritoortega> i'm trying to open two different gmail accounts at once (different tabs / windows) with firefox, but seems like it can't be done... is there any way to open two completely independent instances, without using another browser?
[12:54] <ajcates> can some one help me plz to get X back?
[12:54] <m0> burritoortega: no it isn't possible
[12:54] <m0> burritoortega: each instance of a browser window is a session so ...
[12:54] <burritoortega> m0: ok thanks a lot
[12:54] <whaley> burritoortega: firefox windows share a common profile and only one profile can be open at a time
[12:54] <hakanw> syntaxx: my hosts file is now http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20923 (except for ip6 stuff)
[12:54] <whaley> the profile contains session info, as m0 stated
[12:55] <tanath> burritoortega, m0: yes it can
[12:55] <Remy> !multiverse
[12:55] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:55] <Remy> !easysource
[12:55] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:55] <whaley> tanath: how?
[12:55] <burritoortega> m0: even if i download a binary tgz of firefox, unpack it to opt or whatever, and run it from there?
[12:55] <m0> tanath: how?
[12:55] <burritoortega> tanath: tell me please?  :)
[12:55] <tanath> er, wait..
[12:55] <whaley> tanath: firefox -P won't let you open a new profile, will it?
[12:55] <tanath> read too fast
[12:55] <whaley> ;)
[12:55] <tanath> yes, you can have multiple profiles going at once
[12:55] <tanath> i've done that
[12:56] <m0> tanath: i thought only 1 profiel at a time...
[12:56] <whaley> tanath: that should be all you need then
[12:56] <tanath> and on windows, the IEtab extension may let you do it in one... not sure about that though
[12:56] <burritoortega> tanath: i'm on ubuntu not on windows  :)
[12:56] <m0> tanath: yea i was gonna tell him on ietab but wont work on linux
[12:56] <tanath> yeh :P
[12:56] <burritoortega> tanath: thanks anyway
[12:56] <gunnar> hakanw : I'm honored.  Gunnar has been a nic name that my family gave me.  ( After the motorcross racer Gunnar Lindstrum.  Look him up on wikipedia)
[12:57] <m0> tanath: IETab uses Windows folders to save the sessions cookies
[12:57] <tanath> but yeh, you can do it with 2 windows
[12:57] <ajcates> can some one plz help me get my X back?
[12:57] <hakanw> gunnar: :)   it's a common swedish name, especially for older men 50+ years old
[12:57] <burritoortega> tanath: no i can't do it with 2 windows, or at least it doesn't work here
[12:57] <gidim> Okay, one other issue that's bugging me everyone. I'm running an AMD64 with Ubuntu 64, and can only run Opera from NTFS in WINE, 32-bit version won't work for me.
[12:57] <tanath> burritoortega: i've done it
[12:57] <ajcates> just run firefox as root and then choose a differnt profile
[12:57] <burritoortega> damn i'll just use another browser, but i shouldn't  :(
[12:57] <gidim> I've checked all the boards and such I can find.
[12:57] <gidim> It seems to be that two-line java error.
[12:57] <tanath> burritoortega: i forget how. ask in irc.mozilla.com/firefox
[12:57] <burritoortega> tanath: thanks a lot anyway
[12:58] <tanath> burritoortega: uh... you seem to still think you can't do it, lol
[12:58] <fourat> how to check if am being sniffed, using arp poisoning, is there any app wich will detect any arp table infection ?
[12:58] <ajcates> i need help getting X running
[12:58] <burritoortega> tanath: no, i think i can't, but i also think it might not be worth the effort
[12:58] <tanath> burritoortega: just have 2 windows with 2 profiles
[12:58] <kbrosnan> burritoortega, export MOZ_NO_REMOTE=1 before running firefox
[12:59] <mrproper> So hibernate didn't work.  Restarting my system was literally a restart.
[12:59] <tanath> that's it!
[12:59] <burritoortega> kbrosnan: what will that do?
[12:59] <gidim> My hibernate doesn't work either.
[12:59] <m0> my hibernat wont work either
[12:59] <tanath> burritoortega: sets a variable that lets 2 windows use different profiles
[12:59] <francolq> Hello, dapper problem here. My internet connection was very slow (when it worked), so read the forums and succesfully disabled IPV6. Now internet is faster (but slower than mi previous Breezy) and works on boot, but sometimes it hangs up and if i disable eth0 y cannot enable it and get an IP again.
[12:59] <m0> windows hibernate is nice
[12:59] <mrproper> gidim, But the system went off.  I'm just trying to get less fans in my room at night running loud.
[12:59] <gidim> Yep.
[12:59] <tanath> burritoortega: then you run firefox with the profile manager and choose another profile
[12:59] <burritoortega> tanath: cool thanks a lot
[12:59] <gidim> My system goes to screensaver and powers down, but not if I tell it to hibernate.
[01:00] <gidim> Just shuts off the monitor I think. I get a no signal in the morning until I move the mouse.
[01:00] <BeepAU> i have a problem with vmware, can anyone help me?
[01:00] <sagarp> what problem BeepAU
[01:00] <kbrosnan> burritoortega, you don't want to set it as a global variable though as it will break applications ablity to pass urls to firefox
[01:00] <ajcates> i have a problem with X not running can any one help me?
[01:01] <TokenBad> ok I have a question about shoutcast tv servers...I want to watch them but seems none of the programs I use support them...any idea if can do that on ubuntu?
[01:01] <burritoortega> kbrosnan: oops... i guess i'll just run epiphany then  :P
[01:01] <burritoortega> thanks to all of you anyway
[01:01] <tanath> ajcates: state the error
[01:01] <finfe> TokenBad: Mplayer will do
[01:01] <BeepAU> sagarp -- i followed a guide to use a windows disc, but i can't get the vmx file to find where i've put the image
[01:01] <finfe> TokenBad: it works for me
[01:01] <BeepAU> sagarp -- that may sound confusing
[01:01] <ajcates> tanath: can we just talk to each other, its very hard to use irc with no X
[01:01] <TokenBad> finfe maybe I am missing something then...
[01:01] <finfe> TokenBad: codecs...
[01:01] <tanath> ajcates: i'm going to eat now...
[01:01] <ajcates> shux
[01:01] <gidim> So, I've been on Ubuntu for almost two weeks now, and it's so much nicer than Windows, I've just... you know, not been playing EverQuest, but I can play FF5 in SNES9x.
[01:01] <BeepAU> sagarp -- http://www.vdomck.org/blog/2006/06/15/running-windows-under-ubuntu/ that's the guide i followed
[01:01] <kbrosnan> burritoortega, it is better to open a command window and type SET MOZ_NO_REMOTE=1 just before firefox -P or use a simple 2 line shell script
[01:02] <finfe> TokenBad: did you install all the codecs in automatix?
[01:02] <tanath> ajcates: basically you need to configure your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file properly
[01:02] <sagarp> BeepAU, where did you put the image
[01:02] <tanath> ajcates: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:02] <BeepAU> sagarp -- i have a copy in the 'windows' folder
[01:03] <TokenBad> finfe, ok cool...mplayer does work...
[01:03] <ajcates> tanath: its configured
[01:03] <antox> which tool allows to merge a sequence of images to some movie file-format?
[01:03] <finfe> TokenBad: good ;)
[01:03] <BeepAU> sagarp -- i named it Windows.iso
[01:03] <sagarp> BeepAU, what windows folder...what is the path to the ISO?
[01:03] <TD00> is there a command i can use from the console to conver 1.mpg to 1.mov ?
[01:03] <tanath> ajcates: if it still doesn't work, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors and fix them in your xorg.conf
[01:03] <paradroid> Hi all. I am having trouble with the CD-ripper/encoder Grip. Anyone here using it?
[01:03] <finfe> paradroid: i used it once or twice
[01:03] <tanath> ajcates: but is it configured _properly_?
[01:04] <tanath> ajmitch: apparently not
[01:04] <ajcates> tanath: yes it is
[01:04] <ajcates> i can get X to start
[01:04] <tanath> ajcates: i thought you said you can't
[01:04] <tanath> ajcates: what's the prob then?
[01:04] <BeepAU> sagarp -- /home/user/windows/Windows.iso
[01:04] <lmosher> I have firefox32 installed and I got a 32-bit java plugin to work. However, I installed azureus and it updated my java to 64-bit, which broke the firefox plugin. How can I get firefox using a 32-bit java and azureus using 64-bit java?
[01:04] <ajcates> tanth: when it starts, its not that functionl
[01:04] <ajcates> it don't do anything
[01:04] <syntaxx> hakanw: hmm try joinin #apache and ask there whats wrong
[01:04] <ajcates> just a mouse
[01:04] <paradroid> finfe: :) Well, it's sort of a basic thing since Grip won't use my CD drives.
[01:04] <BeepAU> sagarp -- the guide told me to make a windows directory
[01:04] <hakanw> syntaxx: ok, thanks for your help
[01:04] <tanath> ajcates: what did you do?
[01:05] <cyphase> where can i download the Official Ubuntu Book?
[01:05] <ajcates> i don't know
[01:05] <finfe> paradroid: are you sure they're mounted?
[01:05] <baconbacon> lmosher: try to ask in #azureus about a command line switch to use another vm
[01:05] <Tomosaur> L/
[01:05] <paradroid> finfe: Other players/rippers are fine. Grip just tells me "No CD. I configured it to look for it in /dev/cdrom, /media/cdrom, etc. No good.
[01:05] <finfe> paradroid: i mean "mounted"
[01:05] <ajcates> i was messing around with my xgl settings
[01:05] <lmosher> baconbacon, ty
[01:05] <finfe> paradroid: ok
[01:05] <sagarp> BeepAU, oh...so you used the line that says ide1:0.fileName and set it to "/home/user/windows/Windows.iso" ?
[01:06] <ajcates> and then XGL crashed
[01:06] <BeepAU> sagarp -- no i haven't. i'll try that.
[01:06] <finfe> paradroid: i didn't use it enough, so i don't know any issue it can cause
[01:06] <finfe> paradroid: sorry
[01:06] <tanath> ajcates: so you're trying to use xgl + compiz?
[01:06] <tyler_d> could someone tell me how to install java?
[01:06] <lmosher> baconbacon, hehe not a lot of activity there :/ This thing is a nightmare
[01:06] <sagarp> BeepAU, make sure to uncomment that line, and the line under it...and comment out the two above it
[01:06] <eric__> Hi.  I was wondering if anybody would be interested in helping me set up XGL/Compiz on my machine.
[01:06] <paradroid> finfe: No problem. I can also go with Sound Juicer. I was just wondering. Any other app you would recommend for CD ripping/encoding?
[01:07] <eric__> I'm running on a Celeron with an NVIDIA card (GeForce FX5200).
[01:07] <lmosher> baconbacon, I don't want necessarily want azureus to work with the 32-bit java... I want firefox to work wit the 32-bit java and everything else to work with the 64-bit one. Should I try manually installing the 32-bit version somewhere else?
[01:07] <tanath> eric__: get direct rendering working?
[01:07] <finfe> paradroid: sound juicer?
[01:07] <finfe> ah
[01:07] <finfe> sorry
[01:07] <lmosher> Here's a better question, if I install 64-bit java w/ package manager and 32-bit one manually somewhere else and use it ONLY for firefox, will the system still be stable?
[01:07] <BeepAU> sagarp -- i'm sorry, but could you clarify what you mean by uncomment and comment out?
[01:08] <finfe> paradroid: that's the one you just mentioned
[01:08] <eric__> tanath: I think so.  I've been following the steps here: doc.gwos.org/index.php/installxgl
[01:08] <khobar> !paste
[01:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:08] <kaffeewoller> hi
[01:08] <finfe> paradroid: i don't do much CD ripping...
[01:08] <sagarp> BeepAU, uncomment means remove the # before that line...and comment means put a # at the front of a line
[01:08] <kaffeewoller> how do i make metacity transparent?
[01:08] <tanath> eric__, ajcates: once you have direct rendering working, follow this guide (remove changes made according to other guides first): http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168618
[01:08] <ajcates> and now when i restart my computer it says GDM: Xserver not found:XGL :0 - fullscreen :1 -ac -accel glx:pbufffer -accel xv:fbo & sleep z && DISPLAY=:1 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0 .Xauth -no listen tcp vt7
[01:08] <eric__> I've got it to ask me if I want to use x-server or gnome.
[01:08] <tanath> ajcates: you're mixing display 0 and 1
[01:08] <ajcates> sry i have to leave
[01:09] <compotatoj> how do I build a .deb from a cvs
[01:09] <eric__> tanath: but no fluffy windows or twisting workspace cubes..
[01:09] <ajcates> how do you change that?
[01:09] <troughton> i have mounted a second drive formated it in ext 3 but it has alocated it as root access only how can i change this permisson so i can wright to it ??
[01:09] <ajcates> i got to go
[01:09] <richy> pleeeeeeeeeeaseeeee help me, i see only 640x480, what can i do for having a choice on resolution selection????
[01:09] <tanath> eric__: undo your changes and use this guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168618
[01:09] <baconbacon> lmosher: the best way would be to install 64 as the default jvm and install 32 somewhere else (in $HOME ?). Then find a way to install java plugin locally for firefox
[01:09] <Flannel> !tell richy about fixres
[01:09] <compotatoj> richy, edit the xorg file and change 6480x480 to somethnig else
[01:09] <eric__> tanath: OK.  I'm not confident I have mesa running anyway.
[01:10] <tanath> eric__: uh, you don't want mesa
[01:10] <eric__> tanath: I'll do all this stuff and get back to you.
[01:10] <lmosher> baconbacon, Yeah I'm trying that out now. I think it will work since I can manually install the plugin, I'll just need to manually remove the j2re*-mozilla-plugin package or it wil break ti
[01:10] <tanath> eric__: you want your nvidia drivers
[01:10] <eric__> tanath: For my benefit - How come I don't want mesa?
[01:10] <BeepAU> sagarp -- so i put a # in front of these lines?
[01:10] <BeepAU> ide1:0.deviceType = "atapi-cdrom"
[01:10] <BeepAU> # Use this if you have an iso file instead of a CD
[01:10] <tanath> eric__: so you have direct rendering
[01:10] <tanath> !binarydrivers
[01:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:10] <fdsd> hey guys, My external harddrives dont mount automaticly on my copy of ubuntu, does anyone know why?  it was working before I installed gaim..
[01:10] <sagarp> BeepAU, no...put a # in front of the line that says "ide1:0.filename="auto detect" and the one below that
[01:11] <paradroid> richy: Did you try to "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[01:11] <eric__> tanath: so mesa overrides my nvidia drivers?
[01:11] <sagarp> BeepAU, and remove the # before the line that says "ide1:0.filename="windows.iso" and the line under that
[01:11] <tanath> eric__: mesa is your video drivers
[01:11] <eric__> tanath: So how will I know when I have direct rendering wortking?
[01:11] <BeepAU> sagarp -- ok. then i run vmware again?
[01:11] <eric__> workign.
[01:11] <eric__> working.
[01:11] <sagarp> BeepAU, yes
[01:11] <finfe> fdsd: did you check /etc/fstab?
[01:11] <tanath> eric__: well, you need to check the renderer string... glxinfo should tell you
[01:12] <fdsd> finfe, why what is in the /etc/fstab?
[01:12] <fdsd> finfe, if I wanted them to automount on boot then that would be cool
[01:12] <finfe> fdsd: all the settings about your devices
[01:12] <tanath> eric__: glxinfo|grep vendor
[01:12] <finfe> fdsd: delete the option "noauto" next to /dev/hda (your drive)
[01:12] <fdsd> finfe, im talking about external harddrives like a firewire or usb drive
[01:12] <tanath> eric__: if it says mesa, no good. if it says nvidia, all set
[01:12] <finfe> fdsd: it should be the same
[01:12] <fdsd> finfe, im not talking about the internel drive
[01:12] <troughton> i have mounted a second harddrive  but it only has read permisson how do i get wright permison ??
[01:13] <finfe> fdsd: when you plug it and mount it, type cat /etc/fstab
[01:13] <Fitzsimmons> did anyone else do the libfreetype update today and notice that the antialiasing is messed up on fonts now?
[01:13] <fdsd> finfe, that file doesnt change
[01:13] <finfe> fdsd: sorry, type "mount"
[01:13] <eric__> tanath: Shot down on step one "fglrxinfo" -> "command not found"
[01:13] <fdsd> finfe, and they are not automounting..
[01:13] <finfe> fdsd: so you know the name of the device
[01:13] <tanath> eric__: ignore that. that's for ati cards
[01:13] <paradroid> troughton: What are the mount infos for that drive?
[01:13] <fdsd> finfe, yes, I can even mount it manually
[01:14] <finfe> fdsd: i know
[01:14] <fdsd> finfe, its just not auto mounting
[01:14] <eric__> tanath: OK.  I gathered that.  Thanks.
[01:14] <tanath> eric__: use  glxinfo|grep vendor instead
[01:14] <lmosher> baconbacon, Yes that worked just fine. All you have to do is download the jre binary manually and extract it in yoru home directory (I moved it to /usr/local/java32) and then manually move the plugin into firefox32's plugins folder Thanks for the tip
[01:14] <finfe> fdsd: but in /etc/fstab you can configure it to mount automatically i guess
[01:14] <baconbacon> lmosher: good
[01:14] <tanath> eric__: once you have direct rendering, follow the rest of the guide, and it should be all good
[01:14] <fdsd> finfe, no, I want to plug externel drives into the machine like before and have them mount automaticly, if I wanted to make them mount on boot I would set my fstab
[01:15] <eric__> tanath: "glxinfo|grep -> Try 'grep --help' for more information; Error: unable to open display (null)
[01:15] <RadiantFire> fdsd: that should be the default behavior
[01:15] <fdsd> finfe, ubuntu by default auto mounts anything plugged in like a usb thumb drive or external harddrive, that functionality is not working, and I was wondering the app that controls that so I can fix it
[01:15] <finfe> fdsd: yea, you're right
[01:15] <finfe> fdsd: sorry
[01:15] <kaffeewoller> how do i make metacity transparent?
[01:15] <troughton> paradroid it has set it to root access only
[01:15] <tanath> eric__: try glxinfo -display :1
[01:15] <finfe> fdsd: it has to do with hotplugging then
[01:16] <fdsd> RadiantFire, ?
[01:16] <paradroid> troughton: can you give me the line from your fstab?
[01:16] <fdsd> finfe, i guess
[01:16] <MaCinTof> hi !
[01:16] <argument> how do I enable a site? e.g. there's sites-available and sites-enabled, is there a utility like a2enablesite, or do i just manually symlink?
[01:16] <Fitzsimmons> anyone know how to fix the fonts?  Please, I can barely read this terminal it is so blurry
[01:16] <argument> also where do I specify "ServerName"
[01:16] <MaCinTof> I have a problem with my dongle usb wifi running on ndiswrapper
[01:16] <argument> Fitzsimmons, fix what fonts? on what terminal?
[01:17] <bbrazil> argument: a2ensite
[01:17] <MaCinTof> can someone help me it's pretty important :(
[01:17] <argument> bbrazil, thx
[01:17] <troughton> /dev/hdc1   /backup  ext3 rw  0 0
[01:17] <skarface> after some of the recent updates my fonts have gone ugly and I can't seem to get it switched back as well
[01:17] <Fitzsimmons> argument: ever since I did the libfreetype update the antialiasing looks terrible
[01:17] <eric__> tanath: Long pause, then "Error: unable to open display :1"; so I tried replacing 1 with 0, which got me "xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server; xlib: No protocol specified."
[01:17] <bbrazil> argument: ServerName goes in your <VirtualHost> block usually
[01:17] <fdsd> does anyone know?
[01:17] <Fitzsimmons> argument: and by "this terminal" I mean the one I'm using to run irssi
[01:18] <finfe> fdsd: i am trying to check around
[01:18] <argument> bbrazil, tried that already but it still gives errors about "cannot figure out ServerName, using 127....."
[01:18] <fdsd> finfe, ok
[01:18] <bbrazil> argument: that sounds like a DNS issue
[01:18] <argument> Fitzsimmons, which terminal is that
[01:18] <finfe> fdsd: just to refund you of my messing around
[01:18] <finfe> :D
[01:18] <tanath> eric__: bah, try restarting x. i gotta go. find a good guide for getting direct rendering enabled with your card, and then follow that guide for xgl
[01:18] <Fitzsimmons> argument: does it matter?
[01:18] <argument> bbrazil, what kind of DNS issue
[01:18] <Fitzsimmons> argument: all my fonts are fucked
[01:18] <argument> Fitzsimmons, yes
[01:18] <tanath> eric__: sorry can't help more
[01:18] <fdsd> finfe, lol
[01:18] <argument> Fitzsimmons, language man
[01:18] <bbrazil> argument: one where it can't figure out what IP is associated with that servername
[01:19] <argument> bbrazil, it can't figure out what ip is associated with "localhost" ?
[01:19] <eric__> tanath: Thanks for the help.
[01:19] <argument> ServerName localhost
[01:19] <argument> that's what i have in the virtualhost section of my default config
[01:19] <paradroid> troughton: maybe giving it a umask=0000 will help...
[01:19] <bbrazil> argument: what's in your /etc/hosts? (pastebin)
[01:20] <argument> bbrazil, http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=8172
[01:21] <finfe> fdsd: maybe it's not really the solution
[01:21] <finfe> fdsd: but you can try to read this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=231629&highlight=hotplug+plug
[01:22] <sizzam> i'm looking for a terminal command to use to lock my workstation that i can put in Sessions to run on startup.   i tried gnome-screensaver --lock, but that doesn't seem to work on startup
[01:23] <syntaxx> sizzam: why do you need to lock your workstation on startup? you have your gdm user and password right?
[01:24] <sizzam> syntaxx: i auto-login with my account so that i'm always on vnc 5900
[01:24] <argument> bbrazil, any other thoughts?
[01:24] <troughton> it wont mount with umask paradroid
[01:24] <MaCinTof> Nobody can help me ? :(
[01:24] <argument> what about removing a site from the enabled-sites
[01:24] <troughton> says wrong fs type
[01:24] <syntaxx> sizzam: oic then set your screensaver to the lowest possible value?
[01:24] <argument> a2rmsite?
[01:24] <argument> a2unsite?
[01:25] <sizzam> syntaxx: that might create problems when i want to come out of screensaver mode.   i'm just looking for a way to start a screensaver from a command line
[01:25] <paradroid> troughton: Yeah, I should have known... sorry.
[01:25] <Fitzsimmons> does anyone know how to disable the anti-aliasing on fonts?
[01:25] <sizzam> syntaxx: gnome-screensaver doesn't have a man page :-(
[01:25] <dravas> I have a 60.5 GB FAT32 Partition and I want it to share between Windows and Ubuntu, I have no issue in Windows but Ubuntu gives me this error. error: device /dev/hda4 is not removable error: could not execute pmount
[01:25] <bbrazil> argument: the fix is to put a fqdn in /etc/hosts for localhost
[01:25] <bbrazil> argument: i.e. localhost.localdomain
[01:26] <dravas> :\
[01:26] <argument> k
[01:26] <bbrazil> argument: alternatively, don't put in any servername as it is the default vhost
[01:26] <argument> bbrazil, yeh well i'm trying to run one vhost on localhost and then another on my actual hostname
[01:26] <syntaxx> sizzam: hmm i haven't try that yet and im currently installing my kubuntu though sorry i cant help
[01:26] <argument> bbrazil, on local host i wanna run /var/www and on my actual hostname i wanna run /home/me/www
[01:27] <argument> bbrazil, e.g. i don't wanna enable UserDir
[01:27] <Kyja> greetings all. =]  please tell me why these flash wont work http://www.candystand.com/index.do and others do and there is no sound. Have I missed a tweak on flash for firefox?
[01:27] <bbrazil> argument: the default one is whichever is read first by apache (i.e. 000-default). As long as you have a servername on the actual hostname vhost, you should be fine
[01:27] <baconbacon> sizzam: try runnig /etc/acpi/lockbtn.sh what does it do
[01:27] <argument> bbrazil, that second sentence doesn't quite make sense to me... restate it another way please?
[01:28] <dravas> I have a 60.5 GB FAT32 Partition and I want it to share between Windows and Ubuntu, I have no issue in Windows but Ubuntu gives me this error. error: device /dev/hda4 is not removable error: could not execute pmount
[01:28] <[jb] > Kyja, maybe you need flash player 8 to run it
[01:28] <bbrazil> argument: in the virtaulhost block for the 'actual' hostname, as long as you have a ServerName it should work
[01:28] <Kyja> ah yes I think it was only 7 that installed
[01:28] <argument> hmm
[01:28] <Kyja> thx jb
[01:28] <argument> bbrazil, so then i can just leave the default one as is...
[01:29] <Wallakoala> hey does anybody know why after installing the nvidia drivers on my new ubuntu install the login screen is very squished? after that everything is fine
[01:29] <paradroid> dravas: Is this partition set to mount automatically via fstab?
[01:29] <sizzam> baconbacon: I can only get that to run using sudo, but it worked
[01:29] <[jb] > Kyja, and there's no plugin version 8 for linux
[01:29] <[jb] > Kyja, :( only windows
[01:29] <dravas> paradroid, no
[01:29] <paradroid> dravas: So you are trying to mount it manually at the moment and it won't?
[01:30] <dravas> yes
[01:30] <dravas> it wont
[01:30] <dravas> mount
[01:30] <paradroid> dravas: What command/parameters did you try?
[01:30] <baconbacon> sizzam: another way is sudo acpi_fakekey 152
[01:30] <Kyja> there is a gstreamer flash8 pluging =] 
[01:30] <dravas> paradroid, just through Natulus right click mount volume
[01:30] <Kyja> I think
[01:31] <[jb] > Kyja, and what this means?
[01:31] <Wallakoala> nobody knows why my login screen is squished? :(
[01:31] <paradroid> dravas: Oh, I never tried that. :) How about a terminal try?
[01:31] <sizzam> baconbacon: thats so close to solving my problem, now i just need something i don't have to be sudo to run
[01:31] <dravas> paradroid, please tell me how through the terminal?
[01:31] <sizzam> err use sud
[01:31] <Kyja> that it will perhaps handle flash files.
[01:32] <bbrazil> argument: yip
[01:32] <bbrazil> argument: sorry, GPU failure
[01:32] <paradroid> dravas: Well, this is just a try. First, do you have an empty folder to mount the partition? If not, create one, e. g. sudo mkdir /media/shared
[01:33] <dravas> ok
[01:33] <paradroid> dravas: "shared" or any other name will do. Whatever you prefer.
[01:33] <dravas> ok
[01:33] <baconbacon> sizzam: you mean a setuid script?
[01:33] <dravas> now what
[01:33] <ssdd534> i installed telnetd but i cant get it to run or accept any connections... any ideas?
[01:33] <Fitzsimmons> how do you downgrade a package?
[01:33] <finfe> gotta go to bed
[01:33] <finfe> night
[01:33] <finfe> :)
[01:33] <Fitzsimmons> I need to know before I pass out
[01:33] <Fitzsimmons> thanks
[01:33] <paradroid> dravas: You wrote the partition is dev/hda4?
[01:33] <dravas> yeah
[01:34] <argument> bbrazil, adding .localdomain fixed it thanks :)
[01:34] <paradroid> dravas: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda4 /media/shared
[01:34] <jrib> Fitzsimmons: you can sudo apt-get install package=version
[01:34] <sizzam> baconbacon: maybe.   i found that 'gnome-screensaver-command --lock' works if i punch it into a terminal, but i can't get it to work from Sessions on boot up for some reason
[01:34] <OpenMacNews> hi.  *finally) been asked by my sister to 'rescue' her from WinXP (blew up this wknd, and took out all her data etc!). so, it's a linux desktop.  narrowed it down to two -- for a really non-technical end-user -- Ubuntu & OpenSuSE w/ Gnome on the desktop.
[01:34] <OpenMacNews> Any good reviews comparing the two for *this* type of user?  Any opinioins here?
[01:34] <argument> heheheh "fixed" ... lol... "that's not a bug! THATs a feature!"
[01:34] <sizzam> baconbacon: brb
[01:34] <dravas> Thanks paradroid
[01:34] <dravas> It worked :D
[01:34] <Fitzsimmons> jrib: where can I find what to put for the version?
[01:35] <paradroid> dravas: That's only a temporary solution. Next time you boot you will have to do that again (at least the mount part). Or fix it in your /etc/fstab.
[01:35] <bbrazil> argument: make sure you have just 'localhost' as an alias
[01:35] <dravas> ok
[01:35] <jrib> Fitzsimmons: you need a repository with the version you want.  apt-cache policy packagename, can show you the available package versions
[01:36] <paradroid> dravas: Add this line to the fstab: /dev/hda4 /media/shared vfat umask=0000 0 0
[01:36] <paradroid> dravas: This will give access to other users than root, too.
[01:36] <dravas> ok
[01:37] <augustin> hey guys
[01:37] <baconbacon> salutations
[01:37] <augustin> just a quick question: how do i backup my partition table ? so that, in case of a crash, i just pop it and yazoo, everything works fine again
[01:37] <Fitzsimmons> jrib: is there a way to do this and ignore dependencies?  apparently it wants to remove 300 packages to downgrade libfreetype6
[01:37] <Fitzsimmons> which makes no sense because I was using the version I was downgrading to just this morning
[01:38] <pianoboy3333> anyone here using xchat-gnome, I need to know what the default font for it is
[01:39] <jrib> Fitzsimmons: I don't know.  Maybe you can download the deb and install it using dpkg, but I'm not sure if this will work or if it might even break your system since apt doesn't like the idea
[01:39] <baconbacon> pianoboy3333: bitstream vera sans mono roman 10
[01:39] <pianoboy3333> ok
[01:39] <pkh> is there a way to set up a secure ssh tunnel for _all_ network traffic from my computer? (aka vnc)
[01:39] <pianoboy3333> baconbacon: weird.... that's not what it used to be.....
[01:40] <argument> bbrazil, do what now?
[01:40] <argument> bbrazil, you mean ServerAlias?
[01:40] <pianoboy3333> baconbacon: I turned it on, and that's what it was...
[01:40] <Fitzsimmons> jrib: I'm lucky enough to have a previous deb in my chache
[01:40] <argument> bbrazil, instead of ServerName or in addition to ServerName?
[01:40] <Fitzsimmons> jrib: I was able to downgrade it with dpkg -i --force-downgrade
[01:40] <Fitzsimmons> now I can read my fonts without getting a headache \o/
[01:40] <jrib> Fitzsimmons: you may want to pin the version now
[01:40] <jrib> !pin
[01:40] <baconbacon> pianoboy3333:  well i had "terminal font" but i used that one and it didn't change, i never changed any font
[01:41] <ubotu> pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto
[01:41] <Fitzsimmons> jrib: which manpage will I find that in? ;)
[01:41] <jrib> Fitzsimmons: man 5 apt_preferences
[01:42] <Fitzsimmons> jrib: thanks.
[01:42] <DanaG> Is it possible to remove a package without removing its dependants?
[01:42] <DanaG> I want to install a new version of ALSA.
[01:43] <Kyja> ok right flash installed. everything works now.
[01:44] <ssdd534> i installed telnetd but i cant get it to run or accept any connections... any ideas?
[01:44] <Blissex> DanaG: yes, but not advisable. You can upgrade though.
[01:44] <lakshan> anyone have installed DLINK dsl-200 C1 on dapper ?
[01:44] <DanaG> Okay, then what should I do?
[01:44] <Blissex> DanaG: if you want to install a new version of something from sources, consider creating a ''substitute'' fake package for it, it keep dependencies happy.
[01:45] <bbrazil> argument: in hosts
[01:45] <DanaG> Oh, first let me look at the changelogs to verify why I need it.
[01:45] <crimsun> DanaG: what specifically do you need?
[01:46] <`m0> hi can someone tell me how to refresh the wireless  interface
[01:46] <`m0> my interface is called eth1
[01:46] <TokenBad> in ubuntu how ssh into another server?
[01:47] <`m0> i do sudo ifconfig eth1 down
[01:47] <`m0> TokenBad: you just use the ssh command
[01:47] <`m0> !ssh
[01:47] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[01:47] <johnnie423> can anyone help me with an mbr problem?
[01:48] <majd> !lamp
[01:48] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:48] <Remy> hey guys, I've just install the jdk, anyone know whether the API gets installed as well?
[01:48] <DanaG>       Fixes ALSA bug#2190 System hangs on unplugging Audigy 2 ZS       Notebook CardBus card.
[01:48] <Remy> and if so, where I can find it ?
[01:48] <Flannel> Remy: yes it does
[01:48] <DanaG> That's a new RC2
[01:49] <[sharma] > how can i make opera my default browser (that is associated with http:// prefix)
[01:49] <Remy> Flannel  - any idea where it would be ?
[01:49] <crimsun> DanaG: that's already committed.
[01:49] <cschneid> can I present a grub boot menu and launch into different runmodes from there based on the choice?
[01:49] <DanaG> The thing is, the repos don't have that ALSA version.
[01:49] <LJHarb> ok i want to make user accounts that have shell and ftp access, and have full privs within their user folder
[01:49] <Flannel> Remy: nope, probably /lib maybe /usr
[01:49] <LJHarb> whats the command for that?
[01:49] <DanaG> 2006-08-03   ALSA 1.0.12rc2 release | changes from 1.0.12rc1
[01:49] <gidim> Ooh, silly question: is the reverse true? Can NTFS read EXT3?
[01:49] <LJHarb> something with gpasswd i just dont know what
[01:50] <Flannel> gidim: NTFS is a file system
[01:50] <crimsun> DanaG: they don't need to; I backport them.
[01:50] <LJHarb> NTFS doesnt read anything
[01:50] <DanaG> Yes, Windows can:  http://www.fs-driver.org/
[01:50] <gidim> Fine, can Windows, on NTFS, read EXT3.
[01:50] <crimsun> DanaG: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2006-July/000959.html
[01:50] <DanaG> gidim: look at the link.
[01:50] <DanaG> crimsun:  Ooh, I didn't know that.
[01:51] <LJHarb> so whats the command with gpasswd to create a user account?
[01:51] <crimsun> DanaG: http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-dapper.git;a=commit;h=a3bc97fd751f7f74e31b27fd495b5a4f8e0fec64
[01:51] <Jeruvy> hmm is that just a silly question?  Can one file system read another file system.  No, none do.  You need a driver to read filesystems.
[01:51] <AndyCooll> gidim: No. You need Samba to do that for you
[01:52] <DanaG> Do I need a different repo to get the fixed version?
[01:52] <LJHarb> does nobody know how to create a user account?
[01:52] <gidim> Read link, looks nice. Andy: Samba, for?
[01:52] <DanaG> Oh, and how can I remove an in-use module?  I'd like to be able to rmmod snd-emu10k1 with it cascading through the dependants.
[01:52] <sp0rk> sudo adduser
[01:52] <crimsun> DanaG: no, just be patient. The fix is already committed (see above URL to git commit); it'll be in the next dapper-{security,updates) linux-source upload
[01:52] <jrib> LJHarb: system > administration > users, or use adduser
[01:52] <DanaG> Okay.
[01:52] <LJHarb> im commandline, but thanks ill use adduser
[01:53] <LJHarb> and how do i tell the user to change their password when they log in?
[01:53] <DanaG> That was one of my issues.  My other issue: no speedstep on Yonah.
[01:53] <crimsun> I only do alsa.
[01:53] <DanaG> LJHarb: sudo passwd -e username
[01:53] <AndyCooll> gidim: You install Samba on your LInux box. It then communicates with your Windows box and can enable it to see your Linux ext3 partitions
[01:53] <DanaG> -e is expire.
[01:53] <LJHarb> thanks danag
[01:54] <johnnie423> i can't reinstall grub, can someone help me?
[01:54] <DanaG> "Frequency tables for Yonah CPUs" is marked as to-do in current kernel changelogs.
[01:54] <DanaG> Therefore, there's nothing I can do.
[01:54] <troughton> can some one tell me how to change my second harddrive permssion from root so i can wright to it ??
[01:54] <gidim> Andy: Ahh, okay. I'm already having issues enough with Samba. I installed it, but when I try to share My Music (from the NTFS 300GB) on the network, it instead shares my Linux home folder.
[01:54] <jman888> Is there anyway to like completely admin my server over ssh? I know ubuntu has a ability to use filemanager ssh but what if i want Terminal ssh (To install packages remotely for instance)
[01:54] <ssdd534> im having difficulties getting telnetd to run any help?
[01:54] <waspius> in order to create a trash bin on my desktop do i just create new link to location trash:/?
[01:54] <jinnn> hails...
[01:54] <jrib> !icons > waspius
[01:55] <TheGame> hey
[01:55] <LJHarb> jman888: ssh is the same as sitting at the computer.
[01:55] <TheGame> how do i get network manager applet back in my tray
[01:55] <LJHarb> can i set a user account to auto-run screen with multiuser mode on at login?
[01:55] <TheGame> will i get help here
[01:56] <waspius> jrib: where is that
[01:56] <jman888> LJHarb, .... But how can i do remote commads such as apt-get install .... via ssh. Because i hate having to go to my server to install things.
[01:56] <jrib> waspius: did ubotu send you a private message?
[01:56] <waspius> yep
[01:56] <TheGame> i need network manager back in my tray
[01:56] <waspius> ok thanc
[01:56] <waspius> x
[01:56] <jrib> waspius: np
[01:56] <TheGame> or can some1 tell me how to connect to my wireless via wpa
[01:56] <croach> hi can anyone help me with a sound problem?
[01:57] <`m0> who here got Wireless to work with laptops on ubuntu?
[01:57] <TheGame> i had it working yesterday
[01:57] <Blissex> croach: bad question, and try #ALSA for example
[01:57] <nikin> m0: me, with wep 64
[01:57] <LJHarb> jman888: im new at this, and i only use ssh to install packages. you just have to do "sudo apt-get install whatever"
[01:57] <TheGame> with is wep 64
[01:57] <zenwhen> m0, I have wireless working on a laptop. What wireless chip do you have?
[01:57] <majd> hey
[01:57] <majd> hwo do i create a samba account or view samba accounts?
[01:57] <TheGame> how come when m0 asks a wireless question 34489 answer
[01:57] <majd> !samba
[01:57] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:57] <TheGame> but when i ask nobody answers
[01:57] <sethk> LJHarb, not ssh, ssh is a connection protocol.  You have a shell prompt.
[01:57] <croach> i got my wireless working but not the wpa
[01:57] <AndyCooll> TheGame: Right click on the panel, and select "add to panel"
[01:58] <TheGame> i did try that
[01:58] <TheGame> but networkmanager isnt there
[01:58] <troughton> can anyone tell me how to get access to my second hard drive it is ext3 formated but has been alocated for root access only
[01:58] <TheGame> but network monitor is
[01:58] <Novawo1f> Sorry to immediately delve into a question but: Trying to install, installer crashes and a message pops up saying / is low on space.
[01:58] <LJHarb> sethk: oh
[01:58] <lmosher> ok this is a new one!: gnome-terminal: Depends: gnome-terminal-data (= 2.14.2-0ubuntu1) but 2.14.2-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[01:58] <LJHarb> ok question: how can i set up a second listening port for ssh?
[01:58] <lmosher> Somehow apt-get uninstalled gnome-terminal. Is there a replacement package? help? lol
[01:58] <lmosher> I hate xterm
[01:58] <sethk> LJHarb, what I mean is you get the same thing by starting a terminal on your desktop, or by, say, using telnet
[01:58] <TheGame> any ideas how to get my wireless working
[01:58] <`m0> zenwhen: Intel CEleron Mobility
[01:59] <sethk> lmosher, reinstall it
[01:59] <lmosher> sethk, did you see the dependency error? how do I get around that.
[01:59] <dooglus> my desktop session acts as if I'm holding the alt key - typing numbers switches between tabs in firefox, for example.
[01:59] <dooglus> how can I get it to realise I'm not really holding alt?
[01:59] <sethk> lmosher, no, I didn't see it, I just got here
[02:00] <`m0> Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g wireless LAN Controller (rev 103)
[02:00] <dooglus> the virtual consoles are OK - which is how I can type this...
[02:00] <lmosher> gnome-terminal: Depends: gnome-terminal-data (= 2.14.2-0ubuntu1) but 2.14.2-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[02:00] <`m0> This is my wirless card when I do lspci command:   Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g wireless LAN Controller (rev 103)
[02:00] <LJHarb> anyone? how can i set up an alternate listening port for openssh?
[02:00] <lmosher> How do I force an install regardless of dependencies?
[02:00] <TokenBad> was mozilla-mplayer in hoary?
[02:01] <synic> `m0: you could probably get that working with bcm43xx
[02:01] <cafuego> `m0: That will work fine with the open dapper driver+firmware.
[02:01] <`m0> how do I do that?
[02:01] <`m0> any references?
[02:01] <cafuego> `m0: Yes, just a moment.
[02:01] <`m0> cafuego: I have it installed...
[02:01] <synic> `m0: sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[02:01] <`m0> cafuego: from lspci it shows that
[02:01] <sethk> lmosher, unmark mark 2.14.2-0ubuntu2
[02:02] <sethk> lmosher, it probably won't let you, but it should tell you why
[02:02] <cafuego> `m0: The driver yes, not the firmware. (It's not open, so not included)
[02:02] <cafuego> `m0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[02:02] <lmosher> sethk, Um. Yes. It does tell me why. Here's the WHOLE error. The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:02] <lmosher>   gnome-terminal: Depends: gnome-terminal-data (= 2.14.2-0ubuntu1) but 2.14.2-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[02:02] <cafuego> `m0: The easiest way by far is to grab the firmware package.
[02:02] <`m0> hmm
[02:03] <`m0> synic: I did that, now how do I test that?
[02:03] <cafuego> (I made it, I use it, on a 4306 too ;-)
[02:03] <synic> `m0: heh, that page he linked has all the info.
[02:03] <`m0> cafuego: hehe
[02:03] <`m0> ah okay
[02:03] <ragzoobken> Ack, I need some help, I've been fidling around with Dual screen, and now the taskbar etc takes an age to load, and the only sound I can get is squealing
[02:03] <cafuego> `m0: .. if you add it to sources.list you'll get future updates automagically.
[02:03] <synic> cafuego: was the open bcm43xx driver developed for the airport cards originally ?
[02:03] <TheGame> wow
[02:04] <cafuego> synic: yep
[02:04] <synic> cool
[02:04] <`m0> oh my
[02:04] <TheGame> can some1 tell me why network manager doesnt detect my wireless anymore
[02:04] <`m0> this is too confusing
[02:04] <sethk> lmosher, when it says "2.14.2-0ubuntu2" is marked for installation, that has to be because something else is marked for installation and 2.4.2-0ubuntu2 is a dependency
[02:04] <TheGame> it was working yesterday
[02:04] <cafuego> synic: I have one in an iBook and one as a pcmcia card, work work fine.
[02:04] <phxheat> does anyone know how i can spoof my ip? :) seriously though
[02:04] <LJHarb> can anyone tell me how to add a second listening port to openssh?
[02:04] <TheGame> and now today it doesnt even detect it
[02:04] <sethk> lmosher, So if you unmark it, it should say "you can't unmark it because ..."
[02:04] <TokenBad> was mozilla-mplayer in hoary?
[02:04] <ubuntuPLUS1> mm
[02:04] <synic> cafuego: I'm running it in a compaq presario with a 4318.  Also works just fine.
[02:04] <sethk> lmosher, the other alternative is to use the flag that says to ignore dependency errors, but that's potentially dangerous.
[02:04] <LJHarb> can i add a second Port line to /etc/shs/ssh_config ?
[02:05] <ubuntuPLUS1> when i boot up i get an error message that my boot sector doesnt match its backups
[02:05] <`m0> cafuego: What do I add to  sources.list
[02:05] <TheGame> so no1 wants to help m e
[02:05] <cafuego> synic: Yeah, I've heard of some issues with 4318's on ppc hardware on old firmware, but that's apprently sorted now.
[02:05] <ubuntuPLUS1> and a list of ?addresses? where it doesnt match... any clue how to fix that ?
[02:05] <Melissa|X> I just bought a new TI-84 Plus Silver Edition
[02:05] <ubuntuPLUS1> TheGame: whats yer prob
[02:05] <cafuego> `m0: "deb http://ubuntu.cafuego.net dapper-cafuego bcm43xx"
[02:05] <Melissa|X> it has USB
[02:05] <TheGame> i have network manager installed
[02:05] <cafuego> `m0: without the quotes.
[02:05] <TheGame> but it doesnt detect my wireless anymore
[02:05] <Melissa|X> I plug it in, and I have no idea what to do after that =(
[02:06] <TheGame> so i have to use wired
[02:06] <synic> TheGame: what card?
[02:06] <ubuntuPLUS1> ah i dont know anything about wireless TheGame sorry
[02:06] <TheGame> i have a dell m140
[02:06] <TheGame> xps
[02:06] <TheGame> so im not sure what card it is
[02:06] <`m0> cafuego ah its your driver
[02:06] <synic> TheGame: what does lspci say it is?
[02:06] <cafuego> `m0: No, that package contains the binary non-open firmware only. The driver is already in the kernel.
[02:06] <LJHarb> anyone know anything about openssh?
[02:06] <`m0> cafuego: where is sources.list?
[02:06] <waspius> jrib: the link u send me does not help..i cannot create a trash file unless i use url
[02:06] <TheGame> lspci lists many
[02:07] <cafuego> `m0: /etc/apt
[02:07] <TheGame> i dont know which is which
[02:07] <synic> TheGame: the one that says "network" and/or "wireless"
[02:07] <cafuego> `m0: You could add in a custom line via the Repositories option in Synaptic as well.
[02:07] <Melissa|X> using TiLP, I can't do anything at all
[02:07] <Melissa|X> http://pastebin.com/770948
[02:07] <TheGame> 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (r
[02:07] <Novawo1f> Lookit all the questions... well I'll ask again just in case: Installer is crashing saying / is out of space, my / I am formatting is 37g, is it the ramdisk thats running out?
[02:07] <Melissa|X> "node /proc/bus/usb/devices: does not exists"
[02:08] <cafuego> LJHarb: To be fair, the manpage explains to the letter .. ;-)
[02:08] <synic> TheGame: I don't think that's the wireless card.
[02:08] <TheGame> oh
[02:08] <LJHarb> cafuego: it explains how to /change/ the port, but i want to add a second one. i read it before asking.
[02:08] <Melissa|X> any way I can get /proc/bus/usb/devices?
[02:08] <synic> see any other "Ethernet" things in there?
[02:08] <TheGame> 0000:02:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG (rev 05)
[02:08] <Melissa|X> I'm not sure why it's not there
[02:08] <jrib> waspius: I didn't send you a link, it just had instructions for gconf-editor.  Did that work?
[02:08] <synic> TheGame: lsmod | grep ipw2
[02:09] <waspius> jrib: no
[02:09] <cafuego> LJHarb: So you saw where it says "Multiple options of this type are permitted." ?
[02:09] <kgeffert> LJHarb, I don't believe so, but you can use iptables to redirect a second port to the first
[02:09] <jrib> waspius: let me correct myself, there is a link.  But the link is for kde, you need to open gconf-editor and set the appropriate setting
[02:09] <`m0> cafuego: No bublic key available
[02:09] <TheGame> ipw2200               107308  0
[02:09] <cafuego> LJHarb: Essentially, just add more "Port xxx" lines.
[02:09] <waspius> jrib: meaning?
[02:09] <synic> TheGame: what does iwconfig say ?
[02:09] <`m0> cafuego: I added thru Synaptic
[02:10] <ubuntuPLUS1> when i boot up i get an error message that my boot sector doesnt match its backups.. know how to fix that?
[02:10] <TheGame> no wireless extensions
[02:10] <TheGame> oh wait
[02:10] <jrib> waspius: type 'gconf-editor' in a terminal and then go to /app/nautilus/desktop (in gconf-editor)
[02:10] <Urden> can anyone tell me how to add my ~/bin directory to my $PATH permanently?
[02:10] <cafuego> `m0: wget http://au.ubuntu.cafuego.net/969F3F57.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[02:10] <TheGame> let me post it in pastebin
[02:10] <synic> k.
[02:10] <LJHarb> cafuego: no i didnt, and i just checked, its not there. but ill try adding another line
[02:11] <waspius> jrib: command not found
[02:11] <LJHarb> kgeffert: if the second line doesnt work, ill ask you about iptables - i dont know how to use it
[02:11] <kgeffert> LJHarb, after reading the man page.. I retract my last statement... yes you should just have to add another one.
[02:11] <jrib> waspius: are you using GNOME?
[02:11] <TheGame> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20932
[02:11] <cafuego> LJHarb: It's in 'man sshd_config', not the manpage for the binary itself.
[02:11] <Novawo1f> Is there another install option besides booting into a livecd?
[02:11] <`m0> cafuego: It says no sch file or directory
[02:11] <LJHarb> ah
[02:11] <synic> TheGame: what about iwlist eth1 scan
[02:11] <cafuego> LJHarb: You can also add ListenAddress xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:yyy lines if you want specific ports on specific IPs.
[02:12] <waspius> jrib: no kde
[02:12] <`m0> cafuego: nevermind I forgot the - at the end :)
[02:12] <cafuego> `m0: Tssk ;-)
[02:12] <jrib> waspius: oh, ok I thought you were using GNOME for some reason.  In that case I don't know anymore than what that link suggested.  Maybe you can try in #kubuntu too
[02:12] <TheGame> let me pastebin again
[02:12] <waspius> jrib: ok thanx allot
[02:13] <`m0> cafuego: I guess I reloaded teh synaptic correctly
[02:13] <TheGame> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20934
[02:13] <`m0> cafuego: how did yo uknow thats the key?
[02:13] <cafuego> `m0: It's mine :-)
[02:13] <`m0> cafuego: ahh :)
[02:13] <`m0> cafuego: What should I do now?
[02:13] <cafuego> `m0: Now you want 'bcm43xx-firmware'
[02:13] <HeathenDan> what's a good desktop app for checking crp usage/drive stats/netstreams? (not gdesklet)
[02:13] <`m0> ah k
[02:13] <`m0> :)
[02:13] <HeathenDan> crp = cpu*
[02:14] <cafuego> `m0: Install it, reboot, voila, wifi!
[02:14] <`m0> cafuego: are you a developer for Ubuntu :)
[02:14] <cafuego> HeathenDan: I just sue the system monitor applet.
[02:14] <HeathenDan> i used to use them too
[02:14] <cafuego> `m0: No, just a hobbyist. I got my wifi to work, this is to make it easier for others to do the same.
[02:14] <synic> TheGame: heh.  well... looks like your card is working fine.
[02:14] <TheGame> good
[02:15] <TheGame> so why is network manager being like this
[02:15] <`m0> cafuego: Thank you very much :)
[02:15] <synic> TheGame: dunno, try restarting it?
[02:15] <jvai> i pray ubuntu neva dies out.. it's getting soo, good now
[02:15] <HeathenDan> but they're too bare. i saw this app from a fedora desktop, it seems to be good. but i dunno if it's available in ubuntu
[02:15] <`m0> okay restarting :)
[02:15] <TheGame> ive tried it
[02:15] <cafuego> HeathenDan: I imagine so, both are Gnome and essentially the same.
[02:15] <Novawo1f> Is there another way to install besides booting into livecd? Installer is saying / is out of disk space when installing.
[02:15] <HeathenDan> may i post a link here?
[02:15] <TheGame> but i guess ill play around
[02:16] <TheGame> or stay on ethernet
[02:16] <TheGame> thanks for the help anyway
[02:16] <cafuego> HeathenDan: If it's a single line, sure.
[02:16] <synic> TheGame: you can try manually just to make sure: iwconfig eth1 essid psbnet && iwconfig eth1 enc <yourwirelesskey> && dhclient eth1
[02:16] <TheGame> ok ill try that
[02:16] <TheGame> will that work with wpa?
[02:16] <jdahm> hmm Im having problems running  skype installed from the .deb
[02:16] <synic> oh... I dunno.  I've never used wpa.
[02:16] <TheGame> or wep whichever one dapper doesnt handle
[02:16] <DanaG> gkrellm, anyone?
[02:16] <cafuego> TheGame: If you use the NetworkManager applet, wpa will work.
[02:16] <TheGame> i have networkmanager
[02:16] <HeathenDan> http://polishlinux.org/stuff/screenshots/fedora/fedora_5_Andrzej_Orkan.jpg
[02:16] <HeathenDan> gotta make sure. on another network, some chans ban ppl who post links
[02:16] <synic> he's saying networkmanager is broken
[02:16] <TheGame> it doesnt detect the wireless router
[02:17] <TheGame> but my other laptop onw indows detects it fine
[02:17] <jdahm> it doesnt start when I just type the 'skype' command, but works with 'skype --help'
[02:17] <leagris> anyone know how to configure/use compiz-kde. I could not find up to date or relevant documentation in help.ubuntu.com
[02:17] <jdahm> anyone know why this might be?
[02:17] <Melissa|X> "node /proc/bus/usb/devices: does not exists"
[02:17] <Melissa|X> any way I can get /proc/bus/usb/devices?
[02:17] <Melissa|X> TiLP seems to fail otherwise
[02:17] <HeathenDan> i wanna know what that desktop app is, or something similar
[02:18] <cafuego> HeathenDan: That's some fluxbox thing from the looks of it.
[02:18] <jvai> lol
[02:18] <toxic> Melissa|X: check if usbfs is mounted on /proc/bus/usb
[02:18] <DanaG>  Hmm, I wonder when speedstep-centrino will work on Yonah.
[02:18] <HeathenDan> darn, it does seem so. so probably there's no port to gnome?
[02:18] <cafuego> HeathenDan: Why not email the takes of the screenshot and 1) ask what it is and 2) if you cna have a copy of their cfg file for it ;-)
[02:19] <HeathenDan> why do they have neatest toys :p
[02:19] <Melissa|X> toxic: it doesn't look like it according to /etc/mtab
[02:19] <`m0> cafuego: hehe now I don't see any Wirless connection in the Network Settings :)
[02:19] <HeathenDan> good idea, i'll try looking for the contact info
[02:20] <toxic> Melissa|X: then add run: mount -tusbfs none /proc/bus/usb
[02:20] <Novawo1f> Anyone know why the installer is crashing saying / is out of disk space? Is it talking about the ramdisk?
[02:20] <cafuego> `m0: Did you reboot or not?
[02:20] <jdahm> anyone have an idea about that skype issue?
[02:20] <`m0> cafuego: I think i did that :( echo 'blacklist bcm43xx' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:21] <`m0> cafuego: darn, how do I reverse that
[02:21] <cafuego> `m0: Ok, edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and remove that line.
[02:21] <sethk> Novawo1f, because / is out of disk space
[02:21] <`m0> okay :s
[02:21] <Novawo1f> Well, is there another way to isntall without booting into a livecd?
[02:21] <Melissa|X> thanks toxic ~_^ now I need to rerun TiLP as root.
[02:21] <Melissa|X> /me hopes beyond hope this works so I can play Mario on my new super calculator
[02:21] <`m0> whihc line should I remove
[02:22] <`m0> balcklist bcm43xx ?
[02:22] <cafuego> `m0: The ones that mentions bcm43xx
[02:22] <Melissa|X> Msg: Unable to open/find a USB device.
[02:22] <Melissa|X> Cause: Check that your cable is connected or not stalled. Check you rlibusb and usbfs, too.
[02:22] <Melissa|X> System: Inappropriate ioctl for device (errno = 25)
[02:22] <proselyte> anyone have experience with ndiswrapper?
[02:22] <cafuego> `m0: After that, run 'sudo modprobe bcm43xx'
[02:22] <leagris> someone can help or point me to up to date howto documentation on using the compiz-kde package ?
[02:22] <Melissa|X> it seems it can't find /dev/tiusb0
[02:23] <`m0> cafuego: what does modprobe do
[02:23] <`m0> !modprobe
[02:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:23] <Melissa|X> at least I think
[02:23] <cafuego> `m0: It loads the driver into the kernel.
[02:23] <erdrick> the latest radeon drivers are proken for the opengl how can i install the working version before the latest version
[02:24] <DanaG> Yonah, Yonah, wherefore art thou Yonah?
[02:24] <toxic> Melissa|X: maybe you need to load some module
[02:24] <Melissa|X> I thought so too, but the TiLP manual thingy says with USB it's not required
[02:24] <Melissa|X> I'm not sure what SilverLink is though
[02:24] <`m0> cafuego: Wow now iwscanning works :D
[02:24] <toxic> try loading tiglusb
[02:24] <cafuego> `m0: Yup.
[02:24] <`m0> iwlist scanning works :D
[02:24] <`m0> wo0t smart cafuego :p
[02:24] <DanaG> And wherefore art speedstep-centrino OMGbroken?
[02:24] <Melissa|X> FATAL: Module tiglusb not found.
[02:24] <tuxtux> bye at all
[02:24] <cafuego> `m0: The only thing that's not correct yet is the link strength reporting.
[02:25] <DanaG> Gaah, I just mangled classical English.
[02:25] <`m0> cafuego: ah how hard is it to fix that :)
[02:25] <ubuntu> hi guys
[02:25] <ubuntu> i have a small query regarding ubuntu OS
[02:25] <sizzam> how do you enable XDMCP on dapper?
[02:25] <ubuntu> any good online radio tools for ubuntu
[02:26] <cafuego> `m0: Too hard for me; but the authors of the bcm43xx driver are working on it.
[02:26] <erdrick> i'm guessing everyone here uses nvidea
[02:26] <DanaG> XDMCP?
[02:26] <DanaG> Beats me.
[02:26] <sizzam> ubuntu: check out amarok, it has some radio stuff built in
[02:26] <ubuntu> sizzam:  chk in login setup
[02:26] <cafuego> sizzam: Configure the login manager via the admin menu and tick the 'enable xdmcp' box.
[02:26] <`m0> hmm It takes forever in ubuntu to activate the interface wireless
[02:26] <ubuntu> sizzam:  thanks man
[02:26] <TokenBad> if a friend is running hoary...how does he get w32codecs?
[02:26] <toxic> Melissa|X: maybe try http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-32496.html
[02:26] <cafuego> `m0: Make sure you're using the latest dapper kernel. 2.,6.15-26-XXX
[02:26] <ubuntu> TokenBad:  hi
[02:26] <sizzam> cafuego: it looks like thats how it was in Hoary, but it changed in Dapper
[02:27] <ubuntu> TokenBad:  download from mplayerhq.org
[02:27] <sizzam> cafuego: i'm trying to do step one on this howto:   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[02:27] <Melissa|X> toxic, I'll check that out, thanks ~_^
[02:27] <DanaG> What is Edgy all about right now?
[02:27] <DanaG> And WTF is an Eft?
[02:27] <TokenBad> ubuntu I don't see a site at that url
[02:27] <`m0> cafuego: I downlaoded the image of ubuntu last night
[02:27] <cafuego> sizzam: Oh yeah, go to the 'Remote' tab.
[02:27] <cafuego> `m0: Which one, 6.06.1 or 6.06?
[02:28] <sizzam> cafuego: so, setting that to 'same as local' should do the same thing as enabling XDMCP?
[02:28] <`m0> cafuego:hmm
[02:28] <`m0> how do I find out?
[02:28] <ubuntu> TokenBad:  ok bro let me chk the correct url
[02:28] <sizzam> DanaG: http://museum.gov.ns.ca/mnh/nature/salamand/thumbs/images/red-eft.jpg
[02:28] <erdrick> the latest radeon drivers are broken for the opengl how can i install the working version before the latest version
[02:28] <cafuego> sizzam: ANything not-disabled will enable xdmcp; you'll also get an 'configure xdmcp' button to tweak stuff.
[02:29] <cafuego> sizzam: You _will_ need to restart gdm, probably. (not 100% sure)
[02:29] <cafuego> `m0: What does 'uname -r' say when you run it on a terminal?
[02:29] <sizzam> cafuego: thanks.   i had that set up, but when i vnc into :1, i get the grey  screen with no gdm
[02:29] <jdahm> wow amarok is pretty cool, are ther eany other cool music organization programs?
[02:29] <`m0> cafuego: 2.6.15-26-386
[02:29] <cafuego> sizzam: if you need vnc, you don't really need xdmcp at all.
[02:30] <cafuego> sizzam: Just enable System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[02:30] <ubuntu> TokenBad:  it is mplayerhq.hu
[02:30] <ubuntu> sorry
[02:30] <sizzam> cafuego:  i'm trying to get some resumable-session action going.  i have problems with the Remote Desktop stuff due to multiple users on the box
[02:30] <Melissa|X> I got /dev/tiusb0 set up, but it now fails on checking for tiusb usability
[02:30] <cafuego> sizzam: Hmmm....
[02:30] <sizzam> cafuego: those instructions start on page 7
[02:31] <cafuego> sizzam: I think resumable sessions in X are still highly experimental at best (though it's being worked on)
[02:31] <Melissa|X> there is no tiusb module, nor tiglusb
[02:31] <TokenBad> ubuntu thanks...
[02:31] <TokenBad> I guess its part of the essential codecs packages?
[02:31] <wind> heres my problem, i first installed kubuntu (a few days ago) and then installed gnome (ubuntu) now when i reboot and try to login it gives me an error about not being able to load the human theme, when i press ok the login screen appears and i can login. i go to login to ubuntu and it doesn't connect to the wireless router, kubuntu is perfectly fine though
[02:31] <Melissa|X> I have ti_usb_3410_5052, but I'm not sure what that does
[02:31] <ubuntu> TokenBad:  yep
[02:31] <sizzam> jdahm:  check out Listen Media Manager
[02:31] <DanaG> HOw do I enable myself to connect to other systems by xdmcp?
[02:31] <DanaG> I want to be a client, not a server.
[02:31] <`m0> cafuego: How do I connect to a certain cell.. ?
[02:31] <Melissa|X> doesn't seem to help any though
[02:32] <`m0> cafuego: I see my essid which is "Mansour"
[02:32] <TokenBad> ubuntu, ok after unarchive them how installed them?
[02:32] <Veris> How do I disable Shift + Backspace from restarting GNOME?
[02:32] <`m0> cafuego: Isn't there a "REPAIR" like in linux for wireless connection
[02:32] <lmosher> how do I find what provides libglitz-xgl.so.1?
[02:32] <ubuntu> freaking amarok crashed
[02:32] <ubuntu> dang it
[02:33] <Veris> Or whatever that key function does. :P
[02:33] <Awesome-o2000> `m0, thats called /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:33] <DanaG> How do I start a new GDM in a nested window?
[02:33] <cafuego> `m0: open a term and run 'nm-applet &'
[02:33] <cafuego> `m0: That will create a small icon on the panel, which will list all Networks and allow you to chosoe one.
[02:33] <lcmatte> hello, I cannot find /dev/sda to mount my usb pendrive. How can I do that?
[02:34] <cafuego> `m0: After choosing, it'll prompt for password/key/whatever if needed.
[02:34] <bartist> hello
[02:35] <`m0> thanks Awesome-o2000 and cafuego, now I am waiting till it restarts :S takes time
[02:35] <Melissa|X> from sourceforge mailing list "tiusb is obsolete. Use ticables2 instead."
[02:35] <wind> anyone help?
[02:35] <Melissa|X> now I need to figure that one out
[02:35] <DanaG> !xdmcp
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xdmcp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <DanaG> helpy meee!
[02:36] <kmasta> how do i make it so i can delet files, ubuntu says i don't have permission
[02:36] <`m0> cafuego: nm-applet &' gave  me rm-applet command not found
[02:37] <ubuntu> brb
[02:37] <sethk> kmasta, sudo
[02:37] <TokenBad> ubuntu, ok after unarchive them how installed them?
[02:37] <jdahm> What is with Automatix?
[02:37] <ubuntu> copy it to /usr/lib/win32
[02:38] <`m0> cafuego: How do I make nm-applet & work?
[02:38] <ubuntu> if it dont work goto rpmseek.com it has rpm of win32codec pack
[02:38] <ubuntu> just enter win32 codec for linux in search
[02:38] <TokenBad> ubuntu guess need to make the win32 dir
[02:38] <TheGame> well
[02:38] <ubuntu> TokenBad:  yes
[02:38] <uber_mort> Hey all, I'm having a few problems with my ATI drivers :-/  I've gone through all of the steps to install and it appears as though the driver is loading for 2D, but it can't seme to initalize DRI.  Any ideas?
[02:38] <lcmatte> kmasta: maybe because your file is from another owner
[02:38] <TheGame> still cant get network manager to detect my network
[02:38] <AskHL> Hello, when I try to start the sound recorder I get the following message: "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings." But where do I find these multimedia settings? They were there in Breezy but now I use dapper!
[02:38] <TheGame> even though it was working yesterday
[02:38] <Veris> LOL
[02:39] <TheGame> ?
[02:39] <DBO> jdahm, Automatix is discussed in #automatix, not here
[02:39] <Veris> I hit Shift + Backspace again by accident XD
[02:39] <kmasta> sudo what?
[02:39] <kmasta> sudo...
[02:39] <TheGame> does any1 know a good wpa applet besides network manager
[02:39] <Veris> Can anyone tell me how to fix that so I don't keep messing myself up?
[02:39] <uber_mort> ya veris, one second
[02:39] <TheGame> ya Veris stop pressing shift backspace
[02:40] <uber_mort> veris: xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace"
[02:40] <DBO> xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace"
[02:40] <`m0> how do I get packages?
[02:40] <`m0> sudo pkg PACKAGE NAME
[02:40] <Warbo> packages.ubuntu.com
[02:40] <DanaG> How do I log into a remote GDM?
[02:40] <`m0> what is the command ?
[02:40] <uber_mort> you'll have to make it an auto-start type script though unless you feel like typing it every time you load XGL+compiz
[02:40] <Magnus150> Hello, I am new to Linux and wanted to try Ubuntu as a friend recommended it. I'm experiencing a kernel panic even before setup is ran while the hardware drivers are mounting. I haven't found much information on the problem and I was wondering if anyone had any pointers on how to fix this.
[02:41] <Warbo> apt-get install packagename?
[02:41] <Veris> xmodmap:  commandline:1:  bad keysym name 'Backspace' in keysym list
[02:41] <`m0> dpkg
[02:41] <Warbo> sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb will install
[02:41] <DanaG> Oh, for XGL, try the "add to GDM" option!
[02:42] <`m0> cool
[02:42] <uber_mort> Veris: I'm not too sure! :-/  Thats what I've used to make it work for me!
[02:42] <`m0> I installed NEtwork-Gnome-Manager, how do I execute it?
[02:42] <DBO> Veris, are you gnome or kde?
[02:42] <Veris> Gnome
[02:42] <DBO> Veris, ok, go to your keyboard preferences and select your keyboard in there
[02:43] <DBO> Veris, system -> preferences -> keyboard
[02:43] <Warbo> `m0: Find the binary filename, usually by "sudo dpkg -L packagename | grep "/usr/bin""
[02:43] <uber_mort> Hey all, I'm having a few problems with my ATI drivers :-/  I've gone through all of the steps to install and it appears as though the driver is loading for 2D, but it can't seme to initalize DRI.  Any ideas?
[02:43] <Veris> Why was it unselected O.o
[02:43] <DBO> Veris, xgl loves you that way
[02:43] <Veris> Argum.
[02:43] <uber_mort> True!  DBO is right!
[02:43] <ubuntu> amarok aint working
[02:43] <lcmatte> hello, I cannot find /dev/sda to mount my usb pendrive. How can I do that?
[02:44] <Warbo> uber_mort: Maybe due to your card. ATI don't support a lot of their cards
[02:44] <`m0> Warbo: earlier today I installed network-gnome-manager
[02:44] <ubuntu> any other choice for radio for linux?
[02:44] <`m0> Warbo: And I want to execute it, don't know how
[02:44] <uber_mort> Warbo: I've had it working before, I had to fresh install this morning and now its not working again :-/
[02:44] <ubuntu> FirstStrike: u there man?
[02:44] <Veris> Is there any way I can make Firefox start up faster?  Not surf, but start up.
[02:44] <Warbo> `m0: It will put an executable in /usr/bin, so that command will show you what it has put there. I have no idea what network-gnome-manager is, so I can just help you to help yourself
[02:45] <Magnus150> Hey all, I having a bit of a problem with Ubuntu installation and I was wondering if anyone might lend me a hand.
[02:45] <ubuntu> aint the command gnome-network-manager?
[02:45] <UKMatt> Veris, not that I know of, but if youre worried about that Opera is faster on start up
[02:45] <UKMatt> magnus150, ya just gatta say what it is
[02:45] <Magnus150> Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill Init
[02:45] <Magnus150> I get this as the hardware drivers load up
[02:46] <Warbo> Magnus150: Check the message above that, since that will tell you the problem
[02:46] <DanaG> !gdm
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <Magnus150> Alright, I'll run it again and write down the error there
[02:46] <Veris> So Opera is a good browser for speed?
[02:46] <`m0> Warbo: I am trying to do nm-applet
[02:46] <ubuntu> Magnus150:  lol the kernel is angry , heh
[02:46] <sethk> Magnus150, the panic is after the important error
[02:46] <sethk> Magnus150, you'
[02:47] <Magnus150> Gotcha, I'll take it down. brb.
[02:47] <sethk> Magnus150, you will always get that panic when the init program does not complete
[02:47] <Warbo> `m0: Applets are usually added to the panel using Add to Panel
[02:47] <`m0> http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[02:47] <sethk> Magnus150, it is the error before that which is significant
[02:47] <UKMatt> Veris, yeah actually, I prefer firefox to it, but it is the fastest out of any out right now on start up, and I think even slightly faster on pages just because of the way it handles them... and it should be in synaptic
[02:47] <ubuntu> lot of good browsers r there
[02:47] <uber_mort> Anyone good with ATI driver installation?   I have some fun errors to take a look at :)
[02:47] <ubuntu> y stick to one :)
[02:48] <ubuntu> nothing like fun errors :(
[02:48] <Veris> Opera not in synaptic?  Oh well :(.
[02:48] <ubuntu> Veris:  opera.com
[02:48] <Warbo> Opera is in Applications>Add/Remove
[02:48] <Flannel> Veris: it's not open source.  There are repositories for it
[02:48] <Flannel> !tell Veris about opera
[02:48] <`m0> Warbo: I accidently deleted the Panel for NetworkManager
[02:48] <ubuntu> Flannel:  can i ask a ? too plz :)
[02:48] <Veris> By the way, update manager/synaptic has been throwing a fit at me because of "broken packages."  I forced some dependencies so I could install a program I wanted.
[02:48] <`m0> Warbo: Don't know how to readd it on :(
[02:48] <Flannel> ubuntu: of course
[02:48] <Flannel> ubuntu: just ask away!
[02:48] <ubuntu> Flannel:  i needa good online radio app.
[02:49] <ubuntu> any recomendation?
[02:49] <uber_mort> sorry ubuntu, this channel is for declaring royal proclimations only ;)
[02:49] <Flannel> ubuntu: you mean for listening to streaming radio type things?
[02:49] <ubuntu> Flannel:  yep
[02:49] <Warbo> `m0: Look, I have absolutely no idea what this thing is, but it will probably put stuff in /usr/bin, and applets are usually added to the panel by right clicking. That is really generic stuff which applies to anything and it is all I know
[02:49] <ubuntu> some1 advicsed amarok, but for some reason it aint  working
[02:49] <ubuntu> :(
[02:50] <uber_mort> If you're using Gnome try I *think* its just called listen.  You can catch last.fm streams from that.  If you're using KDE Amarok will allow for last.fm streams
[02:50] <uber_mort> ubuntu: I can go ask my roommate real quick which he uses (he runs gnome)
[02:50] <Flannel> ubuntu: personally, I have no idea.  I dont have sound.  Someone in here should be able to give you info.  like uber_mort!
[02:50] <UKMatt> Does anyone know of any good programs taht work with iPod (and podcasts would be a plus) other than gtkpod
[02:50] <Warbo> Listen is on listengnome.free.fr
[02:50] <ubuntu> any help will be apreciatted :)
[02:50] <mainer> streamtuner,xmms
[02:51] <uber_mort> Ubuntu: Well its looks like warbo verified it for me.  Try Listen audio player
[02:51] <mainer> are two of many
[02:51] <ubuntu> UKMatt:  i just saw some app for ipod in synaptic , do a search for ipod there
[02:51] <uber_mort> Ubuntu: Its supposed to be really good for last.fm streams
[02:51] <ubuntu> uber_mort:  ty so much
[02:51] <Warbo> Listen is probably the most insecure program in history, if you believe the bug tracker. Every bug is critical priority :)
[02:51] <waspius> Blissex: ok i found it and fixed it
[02:51] <ubuntu> Warbo:  wow really :O
[02:51] <Blissex> waspius: what was that?
[02:52] <Blissex> waspius: the icon?
[02:52] <Flannel> Warbo: probably just overzealous bug reporters ;)
[02:52] <waspius> Blissex: yes
[02:52] <uber_mort> ubuntu: No prob, good luck, and enjoy :)
[02:52] <Warbo> Looks like a lazy developer who can't be bothered to change values
[02:52] <ajcates> where is tanth?
[02:52] <matko> hello from slovakia
[02:52] <cafezt02> Anybody can help me about lazarus, message can't find system unit?
[02:52] <Blissex> waspius: ah good, that was a good guess by <Renze>
[02:52] <waspius> Blissex: i added this line EmptyIcon=trashcan_empty
[02:52] <ajcates> can somebuddy help me get X back?
[02:53] <uber_mort> ajcates: What'd you do to lose it?  I hear calling its name with a bowl of warm milk may lure it back
[02:53] <Blissex> waspius: ah yes, forgot about that.
[02:53] <ubuntu> ajcates:  had fight with ur x?
[02:53] <ubuntu> dang sorry bad joke :(
[02:53] <ajcates> yes
[02:53] <ajcates> we had a big fight
[02:53] <ajcates> i lost
[02:53] <ubuntu> ouch
[02:53] <waspius> Blissex: thanx for the help though...good night
[02:53] <ubuntu> whats wrong?
[02:53] <ajcates> cuz i don't have a gui any more
[02:53] <uber_mort> ajcates: Try ##dating-advice ;)
[02:53] <Warbo> !fixres
[02:53] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:53] <ubuntu> uber_mort:  haha
[02:54] <magdi> I just noticed that my laptops screen is not used in its full size. How could I change it? Is this a resolution problem or something else? I have already checked xorg.cond, and I have a vesa driver.
[02:54] <DanaG> Is it a toshiba?
[02:54] <sethk> ajcates, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:54] <DanaG> Toshiba has EDID issues.
[02:54] <ajcates> thank
[02:54] <ubuntu> what ahppens when u type startx?
[02:54] <dmb> did anyone make a dpkg for the updated nvidia drivers?
[02:54] <magdi> DanaG: if you asked it from me, then probably not
[02:55] <DanaG> Yeah.
[02:55] <mainer> ajcates: ctrl+alt+backspace kills x unconditionally,xorgconfig=inter-active script
[02:55] <Melissa|X> ticables: Found <TI84 Plus>.
[02:55] <Melissa|X> ticables: err: usb_set_configuration (could not set config 1: Device or resource busy).
[02:55] <nso> My sound went totaly out on xmms
[02:55] <magdi> DanaG: it is a laptop's LCD panel. according to lspci: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  661/741/760/761 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
[02:56] <DanaG> SiS?  Bleargh.
[02:56] <ubuntu> nso:  try reinstall :)
[02:56] <ubuntu> or try winamp
[02:56] <ubuntu> :)
[02:56] <uber_mort> Anyone want to help with some ATI driver problems? :)
[02:56] <DanaG> At least it isn't NeoMagic.
[02:56] <nso> how do I get winamp?
[02:56] <ajcates> ok
[02:57] <ubuntu> nso:  i forgot site name , google for winamp for linux
[02:57] <ajcates> what x sever driver should i get?
[02:57] <farous> xmms is similar to winamp
[02:57] <Blissex> nso: it is called XMMS or ZINF
[02:57] <ajcates> i have an nvidia geForce 5200
[02:57] <ubuntu> bliss there is winamp version for linux too, i aint talking bout xmms
[02:57] <harisund> Can someone quickly explain me the difference between downloading and installing using the server CD, using the alternate CD, and using the server version in the alternate CD?
[02:58] <nso> lolfind it and prove us bth wrong
[02:58] <ubuntu> nso:  smark cookie :)
[02:58] <ubuntu> smart
[02:58] <ubuntu> lol
[02:58] <ubuntu> hold on let me find it
[02:58] <nso> ty
[02:58] <farous> harisund: server cd is used to install the server ver. basically no gui. for desktop use alternate cd.
[02:59] <harisund> farous there is a 'server install' in the alternate CD as well?
[02:59] <farous> harisund: i would presume both are same but am not sure
[02:59] <harisund> farous: the so called 'server' version doesn't actually have any server right?
[02:59] <ubuntu> nso it is on filepedia.com
[02:59] <ubuntu> look for winamp for linux
[02:59] <ubuntu> ok?
[02:59] <nso> k ty
[02:59] <ardchoille> I used the Alternate CD for the first time yesterday, have been installing from the DesktopCD, and I like that the Alternate CD installer asks for monitor resolutions during the install :)
[03:00] <ubuntu> yw
[03:00] <harisund> ardchoille doesn't the alternate CD have a 'srever' installation too?
[03:00] <kmasta> what command do you use to delet a file
[03:00] <ardchoille> harisund: I didn't notice
[03:00] <Phenax> kmasta: rm
[03:00] <mainer> rm
[03:00] <Warbo> kmasta: "rm filename"
[03:00] <harisund> ok never mind .
[03:00] <ardchoille> harisund: I believe it did, yes
[03:00] <kmasta> thank you
[03:00] <DanaG> What is the "alternate CD"?
[03:00] <Warbo> kmasta: Or "rm -r foldername" to do a whole folder
[03:01] <harisund>  ardchoille So where do I get the famous 'lamp' installation of Ubuntu?
[03:01] <ardchoille> !lamp
[03:01] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:01] <[NP] Tangent> alright, I just rebuilt my kernel with the -rt low-latency patch... but now my wireless does not work with it
[03:01] <[NP] Tangent> eth1 no longer shows up
[03:01] <nso> are there supposed to be more sound drivers I'm supposed to download?
[03:01] <[NP] Tangent> why might this be? and how might I fix it?
[03:01] <ardchoille> harisund: My guess would be to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:01] <Phenax> Can anyone recommend me a UNIX-based lightweight web browser without heavy dependancies in a window manager? I usually just use links -g but.. meh
[03:01] <ubuntu> nso:  u have alsa right?
[03:02] <harisund> ardchoille ok, so the 'server' cD has 2 options: base install with no GUI and base install with A.M.P. The 'alternate CD' has 2 options as well, regular desktop and base installation with nothing basically.
[03:02] <ubuntu> Phenax:  try w3m
[03:02] <ardchoille> Phenax: dillo ?
[03:02] <ardchoille> or w3m
[03:02] <Phenax> I don't like dillo
[03:02] <francolq> Hello. I installed Dapper but the network is very slow. Disabling IPV6 (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1389280&postcount=9) didn't work. Any idea?
[03:02] <Phenax> It uses libungif, is my main problem
[03:02] <ubuntu> Phenax:  u can also try elinks
[03:02] <ardchoille> harisund: iirc, that is correct
[03:02] <nso> ubuntu: yes but i doesnt allow me to use sound on more that one program
[03:02] <farous> [NP] Tangent: building your own kernel means you are supposed to figure those minor details on your own :), now more inform is needed card and driver you use
[03:02] <harisund> thanks ardchoille, will catch up later :)
[03:03] <[NP] Tangent> I have an Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG card
[03:03] <ubuntu> nso:  yes u will get voice in use error
[03:03] <Phenax> nso: ALSA includes dmix which is a software mixer for that
[03:03] <[NP] Tangent> with the ipw2200 driver
[03:03] <[NP] Tangent> it works when I use my regular kernel.
[03:03] <Warbo> nso: ALSA lets you use sound from more than one app. OSS doesn't, so it is programs which aren't using ALSA which is the problem
[03:03] <farous> [NP] Tangent: modprobe ipw2200
[03:03] <farous> sudo infornt of that
[03:03] <[NP] Tangent> and I'm inexperienced with the kernel, so I just went straight with the directions
[03:03] <[NP] Tangent> k, I'll try that in a bit
[03:03] <[NP] Tangent> thanks
[03:03] <francis> i want to install apache and php5 on ubuntu.  what packages should i install to get php5 integrated with apache?
[03:03] <farous> [NP] Tangent: wait more setting is needed.
[03:04] <ubuntu> nso:  did u find winamp?
[03:04] <[NP] Tangent> farous, and what might that setting be?
[03:04] <ajcates> i have reconfigured my X
[03:04] <farous> lets see first did you compile the ipw2200 module into the kernel or as seperate module
[03:04] <[NP] Tangent> I didn't compile it into the kernel
[03:04] <[NP] Tangent> I followed the instructions at ubuntustudio.org
[03:05] <nso> ubuntu: yeah but I wanna fix my sound first: I have the alsa config files I think...and some mixers for it
[03:05] <farous> [NP] Tangent: this will be a help http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/
[03:05] <[NP] Tangent> ah, I see what I need to do then
[03:06] <ubuntu> nso:  ok kool
[03:06] <erdrick> how can i install the previous radeon drivers so i can get opengl working agian
[03:06] <farous> [NP] Tangent: lets see if you have the req modu. lsmod |grep ipw2200
[03:06] <nso> ubuntu: not really it still doesnt work is what I'm hinting at
[03:06] <[NP] Tangent> yeah
[03:06] <[NP] Tangent> I have it
[03:06] <Warbo> Does GIF have weird licencing issues still? I'm just wondering what format to use for some tiny animations in a game I'm making
[03:07] <farous> [NP] Tangent: great
[03:07] <Phenax> Warbo: I don't believe so
[03:07] <farous> [NP] Tangent: you just need the firmware then
[03:07] <[NP] Tangent> well, the card works great on my current kernel
[03:07] <[NP] Tangent> I just need it to work on this new one
[03:07] <Warbo> (I despise GIF by the way, but GTK doesn't seem to have ANIM5 support yet)
[03:07] <[NP] Tangent> but I'll take your advice
[03:07] <[NP] Tangent> and look at more instructions
[03:07] <ajcates> when ever i styart up my computer it says GDM Xserver not found:Xgl :0 - fullscreen :1 -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xu:fbo & sleep 2 && DISPLAY=:1 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0 .Xaouth -no listen tcp vt7
[03:07] <ajcates> and i have no X
[03:07] <farous> [NP] Tangent: go to the dir /lib/firmware/
[03:08] <farous> you will find a bunch of dir where the firmware is
[03:08] <Warbo> Phenax: OK, I suppose I could always change it later. Once I get the blooming thing working
[03:08] <Melissa|X> toxic: any solution to this?
[03:08] <Melissa|X> err: usb_set_configuration (could not set config 1: Device or resource busy).
[03:09] <farous> [NP] Tangent: create a dir with the name of your new kernel and place the firmware in it under /lib/firmware/ and hope it work. if it does not just put the firmware dir under /lib/firmware/
[03:09] <ajcates> can some one help me get my X back?
[03:09] <ubuntu> ajcates: still no luck?
[03:09] <ajcates> still none
[03:10] <Phenax> Can anyone recommend me a UNIX-based lightweight web browser without heavy dependancies in a window manager? I usually just use links -g but.. meh. Also, I'm not looking for a terminal-based web browser.
[03:10] <ubuntu> ajcates:  what error u get when u type startx?
[03:10] <ajcates> when ever i styart up my computer it says GDM Xserver not found:Xgl :0 - fullscreen :1 -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xu:fbo & sleep 2 && DISPLAY=:1 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0 .Xaouth -no listen tcp vt7
[03:10] <ajcates> that one
[03:11] <kruncher> hey guys, what is a good limewire clone (that is in the ubuntu repositories)??
[03:11] <ubuntu> ajcates:  so ur stuck at console?
[03:11] <ajcates> yeppers
[03:11] <ubuntu> ajcates:  do 1 thing
[03:11] <ajcates> what?
[03:11] <ubuntu> download kdm/kde
[03:11] <mainer> frostwire,maybe?
[03:11] <ubuntu> use that
[03:11] <ubuntu> apt-get install kdm
[03:11] <ajcates> alrighty
[03:11] <ubuntu> make kdm ur default manager
[03:11] <kruncher> E: Couldn't find package frostwire
[03:11] <mainer> ajcates: or re-install gdm
[03:12] <mainer> hmm
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !frostwire
[03:12] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[03:12] <wind> hey why would ubuntu start messing up (blank screen) when i change the theme from human to the one that makes everything look simple
[03:12] <wind> and how do i fix it
[03:12] <ubuntu> ajcates: u will have some downloading to do, hope u have a good connection
[03:12] <ajcates> i have a good connection
[03:12] <ajcates> i already have kde installed
[03:12] <ajcates> just installed kdm
[03:13] <ubuntu> kool
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> wind: what theme did you install from where?
[03:13] <ajcates> configureing it right now
[03:13] <ubuntu> make kdm ur default manager
[03:13] <ubuntu> run this command
[03:13] <wind> it was already with it
[03:13] <wind> when i installed gnome
[03:13] <wind> default was human
[03:13] <ajcates> um
[03:13] <ajcates> how to you go back and reconfigure kdm
[03:13] <ajcates> cuz i chose gdm
[03:13] <wind> i changed the them (system > themes or something) to something that was suppose to give me better performance and now ubuntu just gives me a blank screen when i reboot
[03:14] <ajcates> like an idiot
[03:14] <wind> i'm on kde now
[03:14] <mainer> dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[03:14] <ajcates> thx
[03:14] <Magnus150> Ok, i'm back from getting the error code from the install. I copied down a long string of numbers and letters that showed up as "code" right before the panic. Is that what's needed?
[03:14] <ubuntu> mainer:  ty bro
[03:14] <mainer> you need admin powers
[03:14] <ajcates> hmm
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> wind: What theme was supposed to improve performance
[03:14] <syntaxx> i miss configured my lilo and now kernel panic on boot is there a way i could bypass my lilo using a 5.10 ubuntu cd?
[03:14] <ubuntu> ajcates:  restart
[03:14] <ubuntu> or just type kdm
[03:14] <wind> i don't know the name offhand
[03:15] <ajcates> yea
[03:15] <ajcates> i typed kdm
[03:15] <ubuntu> any luck?
[03:15] <Grue_Lovah> any reason I cant use normal desktop ubuntu as a webserver with mysql and php?
[03:15] <ajcates> hmm
[03:15] <ajcates> i don't know
[03:15] <ubuntu> do 1 thing
[03:15] <syntaxx> i miss configured my lilo and now kernel panic on boot is there a way i could bypass my lilo using a 5.10 ubuntu cd?
[03:15] <mainer> Grue_Lovah: no,afaik
[03:15] <ajcates> it started up, then i alt ctlr back to tty1
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Grue_Lovah: Are you in Washington State?
[03:15] <ajcates> and know its gone
[03:15] <ubuntu> ur rcconf and disbale gdm from start up
[03:16] <Grue_Lovah> mainer=thank you, and Jack, nope. I'm in NYC
[03:16] <ubuntu> and enable kdm
[03:16] <ubuntu> make sure kdm is ur defalt manager
[03:16] <Sir_Brizz> does anyone know where to add services to boot in Ubuntu Server?
[03:16] <ubuntu> now restart
[03:16] <ubuntu> Sir_Brizz:  try rcconf
[03:16] <[sharma] > can i run kde apps like amaroK in gnome ?
[03:16] <ardchoille> [sharma] : yes
[03:16] <ubuntu> [sharma] :  yes
[03:16] <[sharma] > how ?
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> [sharma] : yes
[03:16] <ubuntu> just type the command
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> [sharma] : Install with apt-get ot synaptic
[03:17] <syntaxx> i miss configured my lilo and now kernel panic on boot is there a way i could bypass my lilo using a 5.10 ubuntu cd?
[03:17] <skos> opa, boa noite
[03:17] <[sharma] > ok ... thx :)
[03:17] <natural20> so is there a better channel for a complete unix noob to ask ubuntu questions?
[03:17] <Tutter> evenin'
[03:17] <skos> tutter como eu conecto na rede brasnet?
[03:17] <wind> anyway, how do i switch the ubuntu desktop back to the human theme so it doesn't just give me a blank screen?
[03:17] <boitano> can some one recommend a PCI-e graphics card that works well in ubuntu in the $75-$125 range?
[03:18] <ardchoille> natural20: This is the best channel for Ubuntu questions
[03:18] <wind> without being in ubuntu
[03:18] <Sir_Brizz> boitano, nVidia 6600GT
[03:18] <Hoxzer_> hi
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> boitano: ANy of the nvidia should be fine
[03:18] <kruncher> ok, so ive got frostwire install, but it needs java, on the ubuntu java page should i use the free version, sun, blackdown, or ibm?
[03:18] <H080J03_> hmm
[03:18] <ubuntu> wind:  try this
[03:18] <ubuntu> clik system
[03:18] <ubuntu> then admin
[03:18] <ubuntu> then themes
[03:18] <Hoxzer_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BridgeConnections?highlight=%28bridge%29 <- how do I enable bridge on startup ?
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> 6600gt for under $125 ?
[03:18] <boitano> what about ATI? I am looking for something that will work out of the box
[03:19] <Sir_Brizz> ATI don't work well with Linux
[03:19] <ajcates_> alrighty then
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> boitano: Nvidia
[03:19] <ubuntu> listen radio did notw ork
[03:19] <ajcates_> i have x running
[03:19] <ubuntu> :((
[03:19] <wind> ubuntu, i'm using kde right now, when i try to switch to gnome it just gives me a blank screen
[03:19] <ubuntu> ajcates_:  awesome :)
[03:19] <ajcates_> yea
[03:19] <Sir_Brizz> ubuntu, thanks that worked
[03:19] <ubuntu> Sir_Brizz: np
[03:19] <Sir_Brizz> ubuntu: how do I add services to that lisT? specifically svnserv?
[03:20] <ubuntu> Sir_Brizz:  add service to init.d
[03:20] <ajcates_> ok great
[03:20] <ajcates_> now i can't change my reslotion
[03:20] <ubuntu> lol
[03:21] <ubuntu> wind try this
[03:21] <ubuntu> in kde type
[03:21] <ubuntu> gnome-theme-manager
[03:21] <natural20> I'm looking for someone to walk me through installining Firefox 1.5 - I've tried the FAQs and walkthrough's I've found, but I don't know enough to know what I'm doing wrong.  I just want to check my email, man.
[03:22] <wind> ok, thanks ubuntu
[03:22] <ubuntu> np
[03:22] <wind> Jack_Sparrow: the theme is called "Simple"
[03:22] <Dev05> natural20, Should come with Ubuntu.
[03:22] <natural20> i have 1.07
[03:22] <Dev05> natural20, The upgrade should appear in the Updates Manager.
[03:22] <natural20> firefox upgrade?
[03:22] <Dev05> Yeah, something alike.
[03:23] <ajcates_> natural20 run this command sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:23] <natural20> ok
[03:23] <ubuntu> well gtg
[03:23] <ubuntu> bbl guys
[03:23] <ajcates_> that should bring you up to date with all the stuff
[03:23] <ubuntu> tc all and god bless
[03:23] <ajcates_> bye bye ubuntu
[03:23] <natural20> command result: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:23] <ubuntu> ajcates_:  bye
[03:23] <Dev05> In the Update Manager. Otherwise issue: sudo apt-get update firefox
[03:24] <ajcates_> then your up to date
[03:24] <natural20> but i'm still running 1.07, and my mail client says it's too old.
[03:24] <Dev05> ajcates_, He/She has 1.07. That's too old.
[03:24] <jvai> how long can i stay on hoary, & still get updates?
[03:24] <ajcates_> you can just upgrade to dapper
[03:24] <jvai> how long can i stay on hoary, & still get updates?
[03:25] <Dev05> jvai, I think is what, six years.
[03:25] <natural20> ajactes_ is dapper a new dist.?
[03:25] <ajcates_> yea
[03:25] <ajcates_> thats your prob, you have an old dist
[03:25] <jvai> cool
[03:25] <ajcates_> umm
[03:25] <natural20> breezy badger ?
[03:26] <jvai> i do "hoary-security" for updates..
[03:26] <jvai> i'm on hoary
[03:26] <rollses> anyone have any idea on which packages i need to install to get a webserver(apache) up and running that has mysql and php support?
[03:26] <ajcates_> run this command
[03:26] <ajcates_> apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:26] <Magnus150> I took a shot of the panic I get when I put the ubuntu cd and try to run setup. Anyone care to take a look and see what the problem is?
[03:26] <Dev05> natural20, Do this: http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/
[03:26] <ajcates_> but with a sudo at the front
[03:26] <Dev05> I mean, download that :)
[03:27] <ajcates_> Dev05, he needs a dist upgrade
[03:27] <Dev05> ajcates, It won't install?
[03:27] <ajcates_> no he is still in breezy
[03:27] <ajcates_> or her
[03:27] <Dev05> I thought it would install :(
[03:28] <natural20> it's a he - so i need 6.x?
[03:28] <ajcates_> yea
[03:28] <natural20> blargh
[03:28] <natural20> thx
[03:28] <Ricesteam> hi, anyone know what monitor program is running in the background of these screenshot? http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/zoom.php?shots/exoduz_fluxbox.jpg
[03:28] <ajcates_> run the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:28] <ajcates_> and you will upgrade to the new version of ubuntu
[03:29] <natural20> no good, says i'm up to date
[03:29] <Dev05> Magnus150, what's your problem? I didn't get it/
[03:29] <brk3> anyone here have usb speakers/headphones?
[03:29] <Dev05> brk3, Me.
[03:29] <jvai> rice.. that was a niice desktop
[03:29] <ajcates_> hmm
[03:30] <brk3> Dev05: just wondering, do they use the soundcard, or are they totally independant? cause my soundcard sucks and doesnt really work too well, so just wondering if i got some usb speakers would they be better supported
[03:30] <Magnus150> I'm sending you what it looks like Dev05
[03:31] <Dev05> brk3, USB speakers are the same as normal one, but they sound quite bad, mines do.
[03:31] <natural20> ajcates_ i got it, thanks
[03:31] <Ricesteam> jvai: its not mine :p...i'm wondering what that monitoring program is...
[03:31] <ajcates_> sweet
[03:31] <brk3> Dev05: what do you mean normal one?
[03:32] <brk3> normal speakers?
[03:32] <jvai> ooooo
[03:32] <workin> anyone in here willing to help me?
[03:32] <brk3> its just normal speakers use the soundcard but my soundcard sucks so im wondering if usb speakers use its own drivers
[03:32] <brk3> workin: ya
[03:32] <brk3> if i can
[03:32] <Dev05> brk3, By normal one I mean the ones that take the power from a power jack (110V - 220V), not the USB ones.
[03:32] <Sir_Brizz> is there a reason to use inetd over xinetd?
[03:32] <workin> I'm trying to install frozen-bubble
[03:33] <workin> I'm trying to install frozen-bubble
[03:33] <Dev05> working, Applications -> Add/Remove.
[03:33] <wind> ok, i'm loving ubuntu, will i be able to remove kde?
[03:33] <bruenig> working, sudo apt-get install frozen-bubble
[03:33] <workin> I'm usinc xubuntu
[03:33] <workin> I already tried that too. it says it can't find the package
[03:33] <DShepherd> workin: you need to enable the right repos
[03:33] <bruenig> wind, how did you come about having kubuntu installed
[03:33] <Magnus150> Devo5, is what you want this number before the panic? {4294767.278000}?
[03:33] <bruenig> !info frozen-bubble
[03:33] <ubotu> frozen-bubble: Pop out the bubbles !. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.0-6ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 72 kB, installed size 356 kB
[03:33] <bruenig> appears to be in universe, enable universe if you want it
[03:34] <workin> nevermind.. it says invalid operation install
[03:34] <wind> i installed kubuntu first, i just installed gnome about 2-3 hours ago
[03:34] <workin> I tried to enable it
[03:34] <workin> I think I did
[03:34] <wind> i had kubuntu installed for a good week or so
[03:34] <Dev05> Magnus150, Ohh, you get a Kernel Panic, that's what you meant? No idea then. I'm not that much hacker. :(
[03:34] <workin> but it's still not working...
[03:34] <Magnus150> Yes. I am getting a kernel panic whenever I try to run Ubuntu, whether it's from cd or install, can't even get to install screen.
[03:34] <Dev05> workin, Can't you open Add/Remove from Xfce.
[03:34] <Magnus150> I have a screenshot of the errors.
[03:35] <workin> I see nothing like that
[03:35] <Dev05> Magnus150, Send it.
[03:35] <bruenig> wind, for me, I would go with a fresh install because that is how I am, if you want to remove kde completely with one command, this is theoretically supposed to do it but it won't account for anything else you have added besides the default stuff and probably will miss other things http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php
[03:35] <Dev05> workin, run sudo synaptic
[03:35] <bruenig> working, do sudo gedit /etc/sources.list
[03:35] <workin> does the comp need to be connected to the internet to install universe?
[03:36] <ajcates_> ok how do you re configure packges?
[03:36] <DShepherd> workin: nope
[03:36] <bruenig> working, do not ever do sudo synaptic, all graphical programs should be opened with gksudo, so gksudo synaptic
[03:36] <ajcates_> dpkg --configure packagename
[03:36] <workin> then why doesnt it do it?
[03:36] <DShepherd> workin: !repos
[03:36] <workin> I tried that
[03:36] <workin> it doesnt appear there
[03:36] <workin> repos?
[03:36] <J-_> how can i change the default size of my icons on my desktop? too many icons accumulate in a short time...
[03:36] <bruenig> workin, you need to have internet to install things from the repos, yes
[03:36] <DShepherd> !repors
[03:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:36] <DShepherd> !repos
[03:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:36] <Dev05> bruenig, gksudo works in Xfce too?
[03:37] <DShepherd> !tell workin about repos
[03:37] <J-_> !icons
[03:37] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[03:37] <wind> bruenig: that's the big part, if i do a clean install (which i kind of don't want to) i have to reinstall all the codecs, all my settings, my files, my documents, etc etc etc, what i spent a week doing with kubuntu
[03:37] <wind> how much space does gnome and kde take up?
[03:37] <wind> is it a lot? if it isn't i can just leave it
[03:38] <workin> er...
[03:38] <workin> I still can't do it..
[03:38] <workin> I don't know
[03:38] <Dev05> wind, Go in Synaptic and remove kde-sessions and friends.
[03:38] <wind> ?
[03:38] <Magnus150> Waiting for your accept on file Dev05
[03:38] <amicrawler> what is the website for repository?
[03:38] <Dev05> Magnus150, How do I accept it? I use X-Chat.
[03:38] <bruenig> wind, you could keep both if you want. They take up a considerable amount of space and having both tends to bog the system a bit. If you only want codecs,  you could perhaps try easyubuntu or automatix which will install all of them automatically without problems
[03:38] <amicrawler> the easy  one
[03:38] <bruenig> !automatix
[03:38] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:38] <Dev05> wind, Open Synaptic.
[03:38] <bruenig> !easyubntu
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easyubntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <syntaxx> i need help.. i misconfigured my lilo and now i cant access my ubuntu box is there anyway i could bypass my lilo?
[03:38] <bruenig> !easyubuntu
[03:38] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:39] <Dev05> wind, I've done this before. Really easy, no need to re-install.
[03:39] <DShepherd> workin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu <-- read there
[03:39] <drbreen> HOW CAN I MAKE MY FONTS SMOOTH ?
[03:39] <wind> where is synaptic? :\
[03:39] <Dev05> wind, gksudo synaptic
[03:39] <bruenig> wind, gksudo synaptic, run that
[03:39] <Magnus150> Do you have an email you can send me? You can send it private and i'll send it that way. I guess this windows-based client won't do the trick
[03:39] <DShepherd> drbreen: massage them
[03:40] <amicrawler> i loaded ubuntu and got kde and it loaded kubuntu
[03:40] <Dev05> Magnus150, I'm in Linux...
[03:40] <ajcates_> or from the gnome panle click on system>admin>sysnptic
[03:40] <amicrawler> and would not start from there
[03:40] <wind> uh
[03:40] <wind> it says failed to open device
[03:40] <amicrawler> so i started from scratch
[03:40] <jman888> How do i upgrade Breezy to dapper (5.10-6.06)
[03:40] <bruenig> he is running xfce
[03:40] <rsk> !upgrade
[03:40] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[03:40] <Dev05> wind, ...
[03:40] <J-_> how can i change the default size of my icons on my desktop? too many icons accumulate in a short time...
[03:40] <syntaxx> i need help.. i misconfigured my lilo and now i cant access my ubuntu box is there anyway i could bypass my lilo? im using my live cd
[03:41] <Magnus150> I know. So there is no way to send files in between the clients? Guess I cant show the error. I'm going to try something for a second.
[03:41] <wind> hm
[03:41] <DanaG> Anyone use those automatix/easyubuntu things?
[03:41] <bruenig> DanaG, i have used them both before
[03:41] <DanaG> What do they do // should I bother with them?
[03:41] <wind> Dev05: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[03:42] <AlienX> anyone know of an easy to use latex editor?
[03:42] <Dev05> DanaG, They install software more easier...
[03:42] <Radiance`> hi
[03:42] <wind> i installed gnome with something like "sudo apt-get install gnome-something"
[03:42] <wind> i didn't use a cd or anything
[03:42] <jman888> Umm. Hello how do i upgrade to 6.06
[03:43] <amicrawler> where do i find  src  depots for ubnutu
[03:43] <Dev05> wind, OK, you want to do what exactly, I think I'm confusing you with somebody else :)
[03:43] <Radiance`> confidential
[03:43] <rsk> jman888: i showed how
[03:43] <bruenig> DanaG, they install codecs and java and flash and all the stuff that you need for a real desktop computer. Automatix goes a bit further and installs extra apps and stuff that are popular. Even though I could do all of it on my own without issue, using automatix on a fresh box is the easiest way to get it going
[03:43] <wind> i want to get rid of kde
[03:43] <rsk> jman888: look at what i last said
[03:43] <wind> but i installed kde first
[03:43] <rsk> jman888: and look what the bot responded
[03:43] <wind> used it for a week then installed gnome
[03:43] <Dev05> wind, OK, can you log on into Gnome now?
[03:43] <bruenig> wind, did you go to that url I gave you
[03:43] <syntaxx> i need help.. i misconfigured my lilo and now i cant access my ubuntu box is there anyway i could bypass my lilo? im using my live cd
[03:43] <wind> i'm on gnome now
[03:43] <wind> url?
[03:43] <workin> how do I install universe?
[03:43] <jman888> rsk You never sent me anything. Ive been here less than 5 min
[03:43] <Dev05> And gksudo synaptic doesn't work???
[03:43] <wind> it gives me a error
[03:44] <bruenig> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php
[03:44] <rsk> jman888: gah you dont even listen do you
[03:44] <workin> someone walked me through t but I guess it didn't quite work
[03:44] <DShepherd> workin: did you read the link i sent you?
[03:44] <Dev05> wind, OK, hold on.
[03:44] <workin> I'm sorry my step  dad stole the comp for a sec
[03:44] <bruenig> that should do a lot right there, but will still probably miss some because it intends to help somebody go back to gnome after installing kde on top of gnome
[03:44] <workin> I didn't get it
[03:44] <jman888> rsk, You never sent it to me. I never got a message from the bot or anything. Id lisnen if you told me.
[03:44] <rsk> !upgrade > jman888
[03:44] <DShepherd> workin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu there you go
[03:44] <wind> wow bruenig, that'll remove everything haha
[03:44] <workin> tank you
[03:44] <bruenig> wind, just kde stuff
[03:45] <wind> i kind of want to keep amarok
[03:45] <amicrawler> where do i find  src  depots for ubnutu
[03:45] <amicrawler> where do i find  src  depots for ubnutu
[03:45] <amicrawler> where do i find  src  depots for ubnutu
[03:45] <amicrawler> where do i find  src  depots for ubnutu
[03:45] <amicrawler> where do i find  src  depots for ubnutu
[03:45] <rsk> amicrawler: stop that
[03:45] <bruenig> !repeat
[03:45] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:45] <amicrawler> i want to add xfce
[03:45] <wind> or is there a equivalent for ubuntu
[03:45] <bruenig> wind, I would run that command and then reinstall it. Gnome has rhythmbox
[03:45] <ajcates_> what is the command to reconfigure X?
[03:45] <wind> ok
[03:46] <bruenig> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:46] <wind> what about this irc
[03:46] <wind> for konversation
[03:46] <Dev05> wind, So just keep KDE.
[03:46] <bruenig> wind, gnome has gaim, which has irc in it. or you can install xchat or something if you want
[03:46] <bruenig> I am on gaim right now
[03:46] <wind> hm ok
[03:46] <bruenig> or in gaim*
[03:46] <wind> i have gaim running right now
[03:47] <wind> well, is there a way to keep this desktop interface with kubuntu?
[03:47] <bruenig> yeah, just make a new account with irc and put username and such
[03:47] <Dev05> Magnus150, I didn't get any file, or doesn't seem like.
[03:47] <wind> with the 2 bars?
[03:47] <wind> the 2 thin bars :)
[03:47] <wind> then i can just remove gnome right?
[03:47] <bruenig> wind, you are only worried about panels? that is the only reason you are swiching over?
[03:47] <superjew9020> can someone help me im tryin to istall a pckage and it gives me the error: Dependency is not stisfiable: lilbc6
[03:47] <JohnSmith> hello
[03:47] <wind> possibly :x
[03:48] <syntaxx> i need help.. i misconfigured my lilo and now i cant access my ubuntu box is there anyway i could bypass my lilo? im using my live cd
[03:48] <JohnSmith> i need help
[03:48] <wind> ubuntu seems to load faster then kubuntu though
[03:48] <wind> which is nice
[03:48] <workin> when I try to do it
[03:48] <workin> I click reload and says that it could not download all repository indexes
[03:48] <JohnSmith> i am trying to configure pptp in ubuntu amd64 but dont know how?
[03:48] <bruenig> hmmm, I am not big on kde myself. Not sure if you can add new panels or kpanels or whatever they might have called it, but right clicking on the existing one and seeing what comes up is probably a good start
[03:48] <workin> and gives me a list of urls
[03:48] <[sharma] > in which directory lies the "make" command in ubuntu desktop ?  (gcc is installed)
[03:49] <workin> this comp isnt connected to the net btw
[03:49] <bruenig> kubuntu is much slower. I tried it for a while and it just took way too long to load and watching the bouncing icon and the hourglass was only fun for a while
[03:49] <wind> ok i guess i'll quit kubuntu cold turkey
[03:49] <wind> but let me make a irc account on gaim first
[03:49] <wind> exactly bruenig
[03:49] <JohnSmith> hello
[03:49] <workin> ello?
[03:50] <ablyss> opera web browsers built in irc is the best, imho
[03:50] <DanaG> Why does GDM start in runlevel 3?
[03:50] <DanaG> It should be in 5!
[03:50] <JohnSmith> i am trying to setup pptp in amd64 help
[03:50] <cafuego> DanaG: Nope.
[03:50] <FirstStrike> ubuntulog: what did you need?
[03:50] <bruenig> working, it is not possible to install frozen-bubble if you aren't connected to the net or don't have the package already
[03:50] <cafuego> DanaG: Not on Debian based systems.
[03:50] <workin> O.<
[03:50] <workin> I was told I did not need to be connected to the net.... v.v
[03:51] <bruenig> where are you supposing you are going to get the package?
[03:51] <cafuego> DanaG: They make then (not unreasonable) assumption that you want to run if if you installed it.
[03:51] <bruenig> just poof and it is there
[03:51] <bruenig> ?
[03:51] <FirstStrike> er
[03:51] <FirstStrike> guess he's not here
[03:51] <JohnSmith> hello
[03:51] <Dev05> bruenig, May be he comes from SuSE :)
[03:51] <bruenig> I think JohnSmith is a bot
[03:51] <workin> ok... I downloaded the frozen bubble tar file extracted it did a bunch of other stuff this guy walked me through and it isn't working
[03:51] <ne-bo|gen> hi .. a friend just installe ubuntu and got trouble whit the net but just whit http ... he got internet for IM and such but the http part doesn't work , any help would be appriciated
[03:52] <JohnSmith> how do i setup pptp in amd64 help
[03:52] <ablyss> ne-bo|gen: sounds like DNS needs updating
[03:52] <ne-bo|gen> ok
[03:52] <workin> ok... I downloaded the frozen bubble tar file extracted it did a bunch of other stuff this guy walked me through and it isn't working
[03:52] <DanaG> It makes it kinda hard to fix an "X freezes on startup" issue.
[03:52] <workin> I downloaded it with this computer and sent it to the other one with a jump drive
[03:52] <bruenig> we read you 47 seconds ago
[03:52] <DanaG> In SuSE I could just boot 3 and fix it.
[03:53] <amicrawler> where is the page for all the universe multiverse restricted
[03:53] <JohnSmith> how do i setup pptp in amd64 help
[03:53] <Dev05> workin, Did you ./configure, make and make install ?
[03:53] <bruenig> It is hard to help you figure out what happened when all you give us is that you extracted the tar and then did stuff to it
[03:53] <cafuego> workin: Any reason you didn't just install the 'frozen-bubble' precompiled package?
[03:53] <workin> I don't know where to find that
[03:53] <superjew9020>  can someone help me im tryin to istall a pckage and it gives me the error: Dependency is not stisfiable: lilbc6
[03:53] <bruenig> cafuego, no internet
[03:53] <workin> I didnt know there was one
[03:53] <amicrawler> can anmy body help me ?
[03:53] <workin> If I did I wouldn
[03:53] <workin> wouldn't* have gone through all this crap
[03:53] <cafuego> workin: There is, hold on.
[03:54] <cafuego> !info frozen-bubble
[03:54] <ubotu> frozen-bubble: Pop out the bubbles !. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.0-6ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 72 kB, installed size 356 kB
[03:54] <amicrawler> SuSE rocks
[03:54] <cafuego> workin: It's in universe.
[03:54] <workin> ok
[03:54] <workin> it's in universe
[03:54] <workin> I'm a noob
[03:54] <workin> whats that mean?
[03:54] <workin> how do I get it?
[03:54] <bruenig> working, I told you this 30 minutes ago
[03:55] <amicrawler> Dana  what suse do you use ?
[03:55] <workin> >.<
[03:55] <workin> I'm sorry...
[03:55] <DanaG> The only issue I had with SuSE was that things were in odd places.
[03:55] <eggzeck_> fuck, I'm having hell trying to install Ubuntu on this iBook
[03:55] <workin> *sigh*
[03:55] <cafuego> workin: in 99% of cases, you neither need nor want to compile and 'make install' stuff all over the system.
[03:55] <jbroome> !repositories > workin
[03:55] <Dev05> working, OK, let's go from the beggining simply, you use GNOME, KDE or Xfce?
[03:55] <eggzeck_> oops, exuse my language
[03:55] <wind> hey bruenig, how do i do this partition thing? could i make a partition and save my important documents and files to that, then erase everything else and install a fresh ubuntu?
[03:55] <ardchoille> !language > eggzeck_
[03:55] <workin> Xfce
[03:55] <kjm> wind : yes, that is possible.  Or it is possible that you will hose your system
[03:55] <bruenig> wind, you could yes, take a bit of work
[03:55] <bruenig> it won't hose it
[03:56] <wind> hose my system?
[03:56] <workin> Xfce
[03:56] <Dev05> workin, You're the guy that couldn't open Synaptic, is that correct?
[03:56] <workin> no
[03:56] <workin> I can open it
[03:56] <workin> I just cant figure out how to install frozen bubble
[03:56] <superjew9020>  can someone help me im tryin to istall a pckage and it gives me the error: Dependency is not stisfiable: lilbc6
[03:56] <kjm> wind : Yes, hose your system
[03:56] <bruenig> kjm, how would it hose it?
[03:56] <Dev05> workin, That's easy, can we go in PM???
[03:56] <workin> sure
[03:56] <workin> pm me then
[03:56] <croach> can someone say good freeware linux games?
[03:56] <kjm> i.e. Re-write the partition table, and lose all of the important data he is trying to save...
[03:56] <wind> what does that mean kjm
[03:56] <croach> that i can apt-get
[03:57] <JohnSmith> how do i setup pptp in amd64 help
[03:57] <ardchoille> superjew9020: Can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin please?
[03:57] <cafuego> croach: apt-cache search game
[03:57] <AskHL> croach, there's freeciv
[03:57] <Dev05> workin, you got my message?
[03:57] <croach> yep i searched already but any suggestions?
[03:57] <bruenig> if he uses gparted or something and doesn't rename stuff, he would be fine and since he is going to reinstall so long as he gets the data over the integrity of the other partitions are unimportant
[03:57] <kjm> Wind : Store any data you cannot afford to lose on an external media before ever partitioning a drive
[03:57] <wind> i was thinking about that
[03:57] <cafuego> croach: What types of games?
[03:57] <AskHL> croach, also if you're into old adventure games, install scummvm and beneath a steel sky.. and possibly flight of the amazon queen
[03:58] <croach> any type
[03:58] <wind> maybe i'll just grab a 2-300gb external drive, put it all on there, and reinstall clean?
[03:58] <cafuego> croach: wesnoth, ppracer, flozen-bubble, bzflag, nethack
[03:58] <JohnSmith> how do i setup pptp in amd64 help
[03:58] <AskHL> croach, there's probably a huge list you can browse in synaptic
[03:58] <kjm> bruenig : sure, optimally.  But, people who are new to partitioning (which I don't know if he is) can sometimes make an irrecoverable error and rewrite the partition table.  I wouldn't want that to happen to someone because they were told on an IRC channel that it is easy.
[03:58] <amicrawler> croach  what are you looking for ?
[03:58] <kjm> wind : Perfect idea
[03:58] <amicrawler> 3-d
[03:58] <amicrawler> 2-d
[03:59] <amicrawler> etc:
[03:59] <wind> hm
[03:59] <workin> dev?
[03:59] <wind> i guess i can do that
[03:59] <JohnSmith> how do i setup pptp in amd64 please help
[03:59] <Dev05> workin, Do you get my PM messages?
[03:59] <bruenig> wind, if you want. I still see very little harm in resizing your partition, making another for your stuff and copying it over. Maybe I am looking at it in a jaded way as and forgetting the bewildering nature of linux for the noob
[03:59] <cafuego> JohnSmith: Please stop repeating so often. if people know, they'll tell you.
[04:00] <ardchoille> Dev05: he may have got your pm, but he isn't id'd to nickserv so he may not be able to pm you back
[04:00] <superjew9020> ardchoille: i just pasted it
[04:00] <JohnSmith> sorry
[04:00] <wind> i don't know
[04:00] <ardchoille> superjew9020: I need the URL
[04:00] <wind> if i do the whole partitioning thing i can get it done tonight
[04:00] <wind> if i go out and get a external hd
[04:00] <wind> it'll go in until friday :[
[04:00] <workin> wtf?
[04:00] <wind> which i kind of don't want to do
[04:00] <Dev05> ardchoille, I know.
[04:00] <Dev05> workin, you have to Register.
[04:01] <bruenig> wind, if you follow step by step, you will have no problem
[04:01] <workin> register what?
[04:01] <kjm> Wind :  I don't mean to scare you off.  But, if there is anything on that drive that you absolutely cannot afford to lose, it is always a safer play to make backups on an external media.
[04:01] <Dev05> Your Nickname in the Server.
[04:01] <workin> irc?
[04:01] <workin> but I'm pooor.. you got AIM or yahoo?
[04:01] <croach> is there any firstperson shooters?
[04:01] <wind> it isn't that important
[04:01] <superjew9020> ardchoille nvm i fixed it
[04:01] <ardchoille> workin: it's free :)  /msg nickserv help register
[04:01] <wind> but it was a bitch transfering dvd after dvd after dvd over
[04:01] <amicrawler> yes
[04:01] <ardchoille> superjew9020: Ok, cool :)
[04:01] <Dev05> workin, Oh man... Just register.
[04:01] <amicrawler> unreal 2006
[04:02] <amicrawler> retrurn to wolfinstine
[04:02] <bruenig> wind, you seriously have dvds and dvds of absolutely essential data?
[04:02] <croach> but im looking for freeware
[04:02] <amicrawler> army iso
[04:02] <Dev05> !registration
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about registration - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <kjm> Chances are your data will be safe.  But, IMHO if there's even a 1/1000th chance of making a mistake, I backup first.
[04:02] <wind> yeah?
[04:02] <workin> uh... did I do it?
[04:02] <amicrawler> yes free ware
[04:02] <ardchoille> !register
[04:02] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:02] <Dev05> ardchoille, Thanks for that one.
[04:02] <workin> did I do it?
[04:03] <workin> I was just supposed to type that right?
[04:03] <ardchoille> Dev05: yw, I wasn't sure which one it was either
[04:03] <cafuego>  wolfinstine?
[04:03] <amicrawler> yes
[04:03] <amicrawler> castel woflinstine
[04:03] <cafuego> That's the worst spelling of it I've ever seen ;-)
[04:03] <Dev05> workin, read here: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:03] <amicrawler> 3d dukenuke
[04:03] <kjm> Wind, bruening : But, I am anal.  Raid array in my machine, plus everything is backed up nightly to a seperate machine in my house.  Weekly backups on DAT tapes stored outside of my house.  But, I do this because I have lost data before, and it is a pain.
[04:03] <ardchoille> cafuego: lol
[04:03] <wind> well i can always rescan my art but it's a tedius process
[04:04] <ruoho> anyone use easytag? how can u tell when its an id3v2 and not an id3v1 tag?
[04:04] <wind> so i just saved them to dvds
[04:04] <Comrade-Sergei> My ubuntu machine will not change the resolution wehn i try to whats wrong?
[04:04] <bruenig> ruoho, I always used a program called id3
[04:04] <[sharma] > which package do i have to instzall to use the "make" command ?
[04:04] <jbroome> build-essential
[04:04] <ruoho> also how do i edit both v1 & v2?
[04:04] <ardchoille> !fixres > Comrade-Sergei
[04:04] <amicrawler> make
[04:04] <amicrawler> and bash
[04:05] <workin> it says my nickname is registered?
[04:05] <ruoho> bruenig: do u have  a link handy?
[04:05] <DanaG> What can I use to MOVE an NTFS partition?
[04:05] <workin> it says my nickname is registered?
[04:05] <kjm> Well mate.  if you've got your valuables on DVD, I'd just go for it.  Probably a partition resize will be safe and then install Ubuntu and never look back.
[04:05] <DanaG> I want to move the front of a partition by 1 GB to the rear of the drive.
[04:05] <DanaG> s/to/toward/
[04:05] <Dev05> workin, Could be, you'll then need another nick.
[04:05] <ardchoille> workin: If your nick is regg'd and you didn't register it, that means it belongs to someone else and you need to reg a diff nick
[04:05] <kjm> workin : that means someone else has "protected" that nick for their use when they log into IRC
[04:05] <kruncher> is it true that you can use ssh like you can telnet? ascii connections and such
[04:05] <bruenig> sudo apt-get install id3, but I am not sure of the different versions. I very rarely use it, generally only when I pirate something and the tags are messed up, and it is command line only which doesn't bother me but may bother some
[04:06] <workin> hold on then
[04:06] <Comrade-Sergei> ardchoille it didnt work
[04:06] <kjm> kruncher : yes.
[04:06] <kruncher> kjm, what is the syntax for that?
[04:06] <kjm> kruncher : and do much more.
[04:06] <ardchoille> Comrade-Sergei: Did you run:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[04:06] <kjm> $ssh <username>@<server>
[04:06] <kruncher> i dont have a username
[04:07] <ruoho> yeah thought it was cli only
[04:07] <ruoho> nevermind
[04:07] <notworkin> ok I thuink I'm registered
[04:07] <kjm> then just $ssh <server address>
[04:07] <Comrade-Sergei> ardchoille how much ram should i dedicate to it out of 512
[04:07] <ardchoille> notworkin: yes, you're id'd now :)
[04:07] <kruncher> kjm, how do i specify a port to connect to?
[04:07] <notworkin> wOot~!
[04:07] <notworkin> where'd dev go?
[04:07] <amicrawler> DSL sucks big   ISDN ROCKS
[04:07] <kjm> kruncher : the default is 22, and you shouldn't have to specify
[04:08] <kjm> kruncher : if you need to specify a different port:
[04:08] <kruncher> kjm, im tryign to use it like i use telnet, to get raw ascii connections (like irc, smtp, etc)
[04:08] <kjm> $ssh xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:<port>
[04:08] <Dev05> notworkin, you're "workin"?
[04:08] <notworkin> yeah lol
[04:08] <notworkin> same dude
[04:08] <notworkin> different name
[04:08] <kjm> kruncher : Yes, so I assume you are logging into a remote machine . . . .
[04:09] <notworkin> registered now I belive...
[04:09] <notworkin> I am I'd I was told
[04:09] <bruenig> so wind, what are you going to do?
[04:09] <Dev05> notworkin, So you PM me.
[04:09] <Comrade-Sergei> ardchoille it still wont let me change the resolution
[04:09] <kruncher> kjm, here ill jsut tell you what im doing. I am trying to learn smtp. so ive been doing "telnet <mailserver> 25"
[04:09] <wind> the webpage
[04:09] <ardchoille> Comrade-Sergei: ok
[04:09] <wind> with the huge remove list
[04:09] <Comrade-Sergei> how do i fix it?
[04:10] <wind> that will make it completely ubuntu
[04:10] <wind> ?
[04:10] <bruenig> ah, you conservative bastard
[04:10] <kruncher> kjm: but ive been told not to use telnet ever, and that ssh is the only thing to use
[04:10] <bruenig> :D
[04:10] <J-_> how can i change the default size of my icons on my desktop? too many icons accumulate in a short time...
[04:10] <wind> i don't know
[04:10] <wind> if this completely removes kubuntu i guess i'm fine with that
[04:10] <bruenig> wind, it removes all the kubuntu elements that are defaultly installed with kubuntu
[04:10] <kjm> kruncher : Yes, it is better to use ssh, as it is way more secure.  So, you should be able to get into this remote machine using $ssh <mailserver>:22
[04:10] <bruenig> it will not remove anything that you have installed extra
[04:11] <wind> ok cool
[04:11] <bruenig> like codecs or gnome or the like
[04:11] <wind> the extra stuff i installed was a bitch to find and understand
[04:11] <Comrade-Sergei> ardchoille ?
[04:11] <kruncher> kjm: nope, still not working
[04:11] <wind> i forgot most of the stuff i installed so if i did a fresh install i would have to remember it all again
[04:11] <bruenig> it will still probably leave some kde libs as when you installed other stuff, other dependencies were probably installed with them
[04:11] <kjm> kruncher : the server may not have ssh enabled to allow connections.....
[04:11] <wind> and i'd end up forgetting onething or the other
[04:11] <DShepherd> J-_: nautilus , edit preference.. chance the 'icon view setting'
[04:11] <J-_> thanks
[04:11] <fafnir> Just looking for some opinions
[04:12] <fafnir> but, whats so good about ubuntu?
[04:12] <kruncher> kjm, thats what i figured, but ive heard ssh can do ascii, without encryption
[04:12] <ardchoille> Comrade-Sergei: You need to follow the page I sent you, it will fix the resolution problem. Are you sure you didn't miss a step? Did you restart X after following that page?
[04:12] <kruncher> or something
[04:12] <syntaxx> any helpers? im getting kernel panic
[04:12] <aparra> hi
[04:12] <DShepherd> J-_: zoom level.. that's it
[04:12] <bruenig> wind, I told you that you could just use automatix but I understand the pain. Although I have reinstalled so many times I can get my machine identical to how it is in like 3 hours with most of that time coming from waiting for the install and download times
[04:12] <aparra> how can i hibernate my laptop???'
[04:12] <Comrade-Sergei> ardchoille just use the defaults?
[04:12] <aparra> some one know?
[04:12] <wind> when i tried using automatix with kubuntu
[04:12] <kjm> kruncher : it can, but when you make a connection with ssh it is initially encrypted.
[04:12] <wind> it messed up something serious
[04:12] <wind> so i gave up on that
[04:13] <wind> plus i wanted to learn how to install the stuff manually
[04:13] <bruenig> I never used it with kubuntu
[04:13] <kruncher> kjm: so then theres no point in using ssh if i dont need encryption at all in the connection?
[04:13] <aparra> some ono know how can hibernate my laptop
[04:13] <syntaxx> any helpers? im getting kernel panic.. i upgrade my breezy to dapper and just apt-get install kubuntu and when i restarted i get a kernel panic anyone who can help me?
[04:13] <wind> since half of the stuff that installed with automatix i didn't need
[04:13] <aparra> this freeze when restart
[04:13] <bruenig> figured that was no hardly as hounded as the ubuntu one as kubuntu people probably tend to want to do stuff their own way anyways, hence why they are going kubuntu
[04:13] <Comrade-Sergei> ardchoille ?
[04:13] <kjm> kruncher : If you don't mind the potential of someone sniffing passwords, or seeing whats being passed back and forth.....no
[04:14] <lwizardl> hi
[04:14] <aparra> i need hibernate my laptop....
[04:14] <lwizardl> in gnome how do i control the sound level?
[04:14] <lwizardl> in kde i used kmix
[04:14] <bruenig> turn the knob on your speakers
[04:14] <aparra> haha
[04:14] <syntaxx> any helpers? im getting kernel panic.. i upgrade my breezy to dapper and just apt-get install kubuntu and when i restarted i get a kernel panic anyone who can help me?
[04:14] <Comrade-Sergei> ardchoille ?
[04:14] <lwizardl> bruenig: they are maxed
[04:15] <wind> kubuntu did seem to be a lot more familiar (coming from windows xp)
[04:15] <lastnode> aparra, gnome-sound-properties ?
[04:15] <wind> but i like gnome for some reason
[04:15] <Xenguy> syntaxx: Run away! :-)
[04:15] <wind> even though i don't know how to do half of the things
[04:15] <Comrade-Sergei> ARDCHOILLE?!?
[04:15] <wind> or what half of the stuff means it's cool
[04:15] <bruenig> that is why I didn't want kubuntu, so that I could make that clean break and not be teased by my windows buddies as using a windows knock off
[04:15] <bruenig> because of the similar look
[04:15] <aparra> lastnode, i think
[04:15] <lwizardl> wind: i like kde just i've had the kde kicker crash to often for me
[04:15] <Xenguy> syntaxx: roll-back to somewhere it's safe ;-)
[04:16] <aparra> someone know how hibernate
[04:16] <syntaxx> Xenguy, i just shift from debian.. and wanted to try ubuntu and now i know that debian is much easier to install than ubuntu
[04:16] <jdahm> hey, I just installed ubuntu a few days ago and when I go to use rythmbox when I import songs it fails and says the song is "not an audio stream".  How can I fix this?
[04:16] <sn00p> How do you fix your ident in #ubuntu?
[04:16] <Xenguy> syntaxx: can you just re-install?
[04:16] <bruenig> apparra, should be an option in system>quit
[04:16] <FirstStrike> run an ident server (it's not needed though)
[04:16] <Comrade-Sergei> sn00p /msg nicksrev identify (password)
[04:17] <bruenig> jdahm, what kind of file is the song?
[04:17] <Comrade-Sergei> sn00p or /msg nicksrev register (password)
[04:17] <sn00p> Comrade-Sergei not that ~sn00p in your whois
[04:17] <jdahm> bruenig, mp3
[04:17] <syntaxx> Xenguy, i wasted 2hrs in installing and 4hrs to download the kubuntu-desktop upgrade and you just want me to reinstall?
[04:17] <bruenig> jdahm, you have gstreamer and stuff going?
[04:17] <Comrade-Sergei> sn00p thats your host name
[04:17] <aparra> bruenig, but when restart the laptop stop
[04:17] <sn00p> it says ~sn00p@hostname
[04:17] <Xenguy> syntaxx: <shrug> it is up to you -- good luck
[04:17] <jdahm> gstreamer?
[04:17] <wikey> Hi, anyone done Ubuntu rebranding before? Something like Baltix
[04:18] <jdahm> bruenig, gstreamer?
[04:18] <Comrade-Sergei> sn00p what do you want hten?
[04:18] <bruenig> aparra, I have never used hibernate so I don't know anything past what that button
[04:18] <sn00p> I dont want that ~ in there I used to install pidentd and it went away but I cant figure out in ubuntu
[04:18] <Comrade-Sergei> ARDCHOILLE?!?
[04:18] <bruenig> !mp3 > jdahm
[04:18] <syntaxx> Xenguy, is that all? it is up to me? no one seems to help?
[04:18] <aparra> try
[04:21] <Krank> greets
[04:22] <amicrawler> where do i get multivers and non-free deb files from ?
[04:23] <bruenig> !repositories
[04:23] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:23] <a2xm> hi all, i've an error usb flashdrive and i want to format it. how to do that in linux?
[04:23] <farous> !info qtparted
[04:23] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 704 kB
[04:24] <neutrinomass> I think it can also be done from System->Administration->Disks ...
[04:24] <farous> a2xm: qtparted or gparted are good choices
[04:24] <wind> bruenig, xchat installed, i do believe everything essential for kde is gone
[04:24] <wind> :)
[04:24] <wind> oh
[04:24] <wind> how do i change the boot logo from the kubuntu to ubuntu
[04:24] <bruenig> wind, I never figured that out. I had gnome, installed kde, then uninstalled kde immediately and still was never able to drop the logo
[04:25] <bruenig> wind, I bet there is something in the forum on that though
[04:25] <wind> ;[
[04:25] <amicrawler> there was a list  of all the   multivers and non-free deb  files  that i could edit from a wiki page ?
[04:25] <AshDragonScale> wind:  Yeah I just did it last night... was easier than I expected
[04:26] <bruenig> amicrawler, what is it that you are looking to install
[04:26] <cps1966> identify chevy79
[04:26] <amicrawler> xfce and  flash 8 and realplayer 11
[04:26] <AshDragonScale> wind: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto?highlight=%28usplash%29
[04:26] <bruenig> amicrawler, you can't get flash 8, there is no linux port for it
[04:26] <amicrawler> the stuff i could get from suse
[04:26] <bruenig> amicrawler, for xfce, do sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop, You will be able to select whether or not you want to login into via the gdm
[04:27] <Veris> According to apt, I have broken packages.  Apt wants to remove them before doing anything else, but I want to keep them.  What do I do?
[04:27] <bruenig> Realplayer 10 is all that exists I believe for linux, that is all I have found
[04:27] <bruenig> !info realplay
[04:27] <ubotu> Package realplay does not exist in dapper
[04:27] <wind> bruenig, i have a bit of a reworking to do
[04:27] <wind> how do i click on a link in here and have it open a new tab in firefox
[04:27] <bruenig> !info realplayer
[04:27] <ubotu> realplayer: Real Player (installer). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 8.0.11 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 208 kB (Only available for i386)
[04:27] <amicrawler> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "xubuntu-desktop"No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[04:28] <ardchoille> wind: in gnome-terminal?
[04:28] <bruenig> !info xubuntu-desktop
[04:28] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: Xubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.32 (dapper), package size 8 kB, installed size 36 kB
[04:28] <wind> ?
[04:28] <Warbo> Realplayer 10 is in Add/Remove's commercial repo (under Graphics, not Sound and Video)
[04:28] <jdahm> how can I tell what package that is going to be installed is forcing another to be uninstalled?
[04:28] <AshDragonScale> wind:  copy paste if you can not click it
[04:29] <bruenig> wind, for xchat, right click on it and click open in browser, that is one of the reasons I like gaim, it is just a normal click
[04:29] <wind> hm
[04:29] <bruenig> wind, for it to open in a new tab, you need to change the preferences in firefox at edit>preferences
[04:29] <Veris> How do you make apt ignore some dependencies on a few packages?
[04:29] <wind> well when i open it, it opens a different browser
[04:30] <bruenig> Veris, apt doesn't like ignoring dependencies
[04:30] <amicrawler> it will net let me install xfce
[04:30] <Warbo> "sudo apt-get --ignore-depends install package"
[04:30] <Warbo> I think (I may be getting confused with dpkg syntax)
[04:30] <bruenig> amicrawler, do sudo apt-get update
[04:30] <Warbo> APT will complain next time you use it though
[04:30] <amicrawler> did
[04:30] <amicrawler> and a distro update to
[04:30] <bruenig> now do sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[04:31] <amicrawler> sayes 0 will be install
[04:31] <bruenig> !info xubuntu-desktop
[04:31] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: Xubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.32 (dapper), package size 8 kB, installed size 36 kB
[04:31] <bruenig> xubuntu is in main, it should exist
[04:32] <bruenig> amicrawler do apt-cache search xubuntu-desktop
[04:32] <amicrawler> 0
[04:32] <Veris> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop works fine for me
[04:32] <cafuego> That means it's ALREADY installed.
[04:32] <amicrawler> oh
[04:32] <amicrawler> brb
[04:32] <skel> wow this channels gotten huge
[04:33] <Veris> It still wanted to install a whole SLEW of packages though :(.
[04:33] <ardchoille> Veris: What are you trying to install?
[04:33] <Veris> xubuntu-desktop
[04:33] <bruenig> Veris, apt-get is a bad idea for something like that with so many dependencies because if you decide you don't want it, it takes a long time, that is why I suggested aptitude
[04:33] <wind> AshDragonScale, this looks like a lot of work to just change it from the kubuntu logo to the ubuntu logo
[04:33] <ardchoille> Veris: xubuntu-desktop is a meta package, it exists only to pull in the apps and deps for the xfce desktop
[04:33] <Veris> oh
[04:33] <AshDragonScale> it really is not...
[04:34] <skel> bruenig: how is aptitude any different in that regard?
[04:34] <amicrawler> xfce is not installed
[04:34] <skel> bruenig: does it deal with orphaned packages or something?
[04:34] <doug> hello
[04:34] <AshDragonScale> wind: why do you want to change it back? change it to something different...
[04:34] <Warbo> AshDragonScale: Did you have any luck creating a custom usplash?
[04:34] <doug> i really need some help
[04:34] <bruenig> Veris, doing apt-get install doesn't track dependencies. So when you do apt-get remove xubuntu it will only remove the meta package. But sudo aptitude install does track dependencies and so when you do sudo aptitude remove, it will uninstall everything
[04:34] <wind> are there some already made?
[04:34] <amicrawler> people i just need the easy source  page and i will be out of your hair
[04:34] <doug> i have lost my grub loader and don't know how to reinstall it
[04:34] <Veris> Oh :0
[04:34] <skel> ahhh
[04:34] <doug> i am now working from the live cd
[04:34] <Veris> So if I don't want it, I will then use aptitude.
[04:35] <bruenig> wind, this is linux, it is not like you will every be rebooting
[04:35] <syntaxx> when i startx it didnt load the x it saysFatal server error: no screens found XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
[04:35] <Warbo> !grub > doug
[04:35] <bruenig> ever*
[04:35] <ardchoille> bruenig: That will change in Edgy, the version of apt-get that will ship with edgy will have a new otion (--auto-remove) which will uninstall deps along with the app
[04:35] <doug> can anyone help me to reinstall the GRUB boot loader
[04:35] <AshDragonScale> wind: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Serengeti_Usplash_for_Dapper
[04:35] <Veris> When is Edgy going to ship?
[04:35] <syntaxx> how to fix that?
[04:35] <doug> warbo i know nothing about linux
[04:35] <doug> i love it but this is my second day on it
[04:35] <Veris> I'm going to test out Xfce in a moment #.#
[04:36] <Warbo> doug: Follow the guides Ubotu sent you then!
[04:36] <doug> they didnt send any guides
[04:36] <bruenig> ardchoille, that is good. The only thing I hope out of edgy is that it carries out a truly seamless multi arch OS, so I can actually use my 64 bits without penalty
[04:36] <Warbo> !grub
[04:36] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:36] <sproingie> ardchoille: aptitude will already uninstall anything that was automatically installed as a dependency if there's no manual dependencies left
[04:36] <Warbo> There
[04:36] <jdahm> bruenig, thanks that worked
[04:36] <AshDragonScale> wind: this will get you a script to run that will do all the work for you except grub... if you do not like the image that comes with just add the one you want in PNG format and change the name
[04:36] <syntaxx> when i startx it didnt load the x it saysFatal server error: no screens found XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. how to fix this?
[04:36] <bruenig> !repeat > syntaxx
[04:36] <Veris> I luv fast repositories XD.
[04:37] <Warbo> I have an Ubuntu bootup usplash and a Kubuntu shutdown usplash :)
[04:37] <ardchoille> sproingie: How do I tell aptitude to not treat recommended packages as required packages?
[04:37] <Veris> Warbo: strange :P
[04:37] <wind> Warbo, i have the exact same thing in reverse
[04:37] <doug>  iwas working with 2 HD and tried to update ubuntu after installing it
[04:37] <Warbo> I boot from a CD which is obviously fixed, but installed kubuntu-desktop which overwrote the shutdown one
[04:38] <Warbo> usplash is saved in the initrd, which I have on CD
[04:38] <Veris> I think I'm going to need a larger hard drive soon with this new broadband connection XD.
[04:38] <doug> i know i have to open a terminal but I can't figure out what to type in it
[04:38] <sproingie> ardchoille: it's in the options under Dependency Handling ->  Install Recommended packages automatically
[04:38] <TheGame> so any1 here got an answer to wpa wireless?
[04:38] <Warbo> doug: Did you click those links from ubotu?
[04:38] <argunda> HI I WENT TO storage Media and I right clicked on a Harddrive => mount and it said "mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab Please check that the device is plugged correctly." And I am pretty sure it is plugged in correctly
[04:38] <ardchoille> sproingie: Thank you :) That was the one reason I don't use aptitude, I'll change that :)
[04:38] <TheGame> ive been trying to search for an answer but cant find one
[04:38] <TheGame> there has to be a way
[04:39] <Warbo> !wpa
[04:39] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:39] <doug> i don't understand the language
[04:39] <doug> can anyone help me
[04:39] <TheGame> ive tried those Warbo
[04:39] <Warbo> doug: Go in System>Admin>Discs
[04:39] <doug> what do I type in the terminal to reinstall the grub loader
[04:39] <bruenig> argunda, is there an entry for the device in the /etc/fstab?
[04:39] <doug> ok i am opening system admin disks
[04:40] <joseluis> no entiendo nada help my
[04:40] <Warbo> AA! I can't use Gksudo!
[04:40] <Veris> bbs all
[04:40] <TheGame> i have network manager installed
[04:40] <TheGame> but it cant find my network for some reason
[04:40] <danielm> sound question: i have a strange problem where flash has sound, but nothing else. i can't play music or movies. no system sounds. just flash. what could be the problem here?
[04:40] <danielm> i can't find anything in the forums
[04:40] <doug> ok what am I looking at
[04:40] <Warbo> doug: I was trying to open the same tool to guide you through it, but I am forced to rely on memory now (my gksudo is broken)
[04:40] <doug> ok
[04:41] <bruenig> danielm, yeah that problem is one you probably are going to have to deal with it. I have tried tons of different ways of remedying that and they all either fail or caused firefox to crash.
[04:41] <Warbo> doug: Look for your main Ubutnu partition on your hard drive (root, or /) and look for it's device name (/dev/hda1 or something)
[04:41] <wind> AshDragonScale, how do i extract the archive?
[04:41] <cafuego> "IT. Have you tried turning it off and on again?"
[04:41] <TheGame> how is it that ubuntu is so far behind on something so simple
[04:41] <rrittenhouse> I have an ipod shuffle and I have realized under ubuntu (only distro ive tried) when Its plugged in to charge it never actually tells me its finished charging..
[04:41] <wind> i saved the serengeti .tar.gz file in home
[04:41] <argunda> bruenig: no?
[04:41] <doug> i took that HD out
[04:41] <rrittenhouse> is there a fix for this or am i just sol?
[04:41] <danielm> bruenig, yeah it's odd. it wasn't always like this. just one day, i can't play any sound except that which comes from flash in firefox.
[04:41] <cafuego> TheGame: It's not simple.
[04:41] <argunda> bruenig: no it doesnt
[04:41] <hardwarehank> when will ubuntu start shipping with iptables?
[04:42] <doug> should i put it back in or can I create the grub on this one
[04:42] <argunda> bruenig: how can I do it?
[04:42] <danielm> bruenig, and on my laptop, the reverse problem is true, where i can play any sound except flash :)
[04:42] <cafuego> hardwarehank: Back in 2004.
[04:42] <Warbo> doug: Basically, we need to know the name Linux is giving to the drive you boot from
[04:42] <TheGame> how is wpa not simple
[04:42] <hardwarehank> cafuego: why did they stop
[04:42] <Warbo> I don't like wireless encryption. I share my network
[04:42] <cafuego> hardwarehank: they didn't,.
[04:42] <doug> it looks like casper
[04:42] <danielm> of course, none of the fixes worked.
[04:42] <TheGame> ya but every router basically uses wpa
[04:42] <bruenig> argunda, do you want this device to mount at startup, as that is probably the easiest way to fix this, just have it mount everytime and not worry about the complexities of manually mounting it whenever you want
[04:42] <haasteem> hi, it is necessary to have ubuntu-desktop installed before upgrading to dapper?
[04:42] <hardwarehank> cafuego: its installable, but it doesnt ship with it
[04:42] <TheGame> so if i have to get on one with wpa then im screwed
[04:42] <Warbo> doug: That is the root for the CD, we need to know your installed system's one
[04:43] <cafuego> TheGame: WPA is. The problem is that for  avery long time, the cards that supported WPA had no drivers and no documentation on how to write those drivers.
[04:43] <argunda> bruenig: yes
[04:43] <bruenig> argunda, ok what is the name of the partition again?
[04:43] <Warbo> haasteem: It can prevent possible problems, and you can always remove it after (along with what you don't want)
[04:43] <doug> mapper?
[04:43] <TheGame> ok well atleast why doesnt network manager find my network anymore
[04:43] <TheGame> when it was working yesterday but now its not
[04:43] <cafuego> hardwarehank: It did as of 6.06
[04:44] <bruenig> it was /dev/sda2 right?
[04:44] <haasteem> Warbo: ok
[04:44] <doug> i took out one of the HD
[04:44] <doug> i had two in when I installed this
[04:44] <Warbo> I gave my brother a Wifi PCMCIA card so he could connect to the network, but it FORCED the security, it couldn't be turned off :(
[04:44] <argunda> bruenig: one sex
[04:44] <argunda> *sec    XD
[04:44] <haasteem> Warbo: it is just that when installing it, a whole lot of junk gets installed with it... i don't really like that...
[04:44] <bruenig> I mean i was going to help for free but I guess I can't turn that down
[04:45] <Warbo> haasteem: Yes, but there is new junk in Dapper, which useful programs may rely on
[04:45] <doug> help
[04:45] <doug> please
[04:45] <Warbo> doug: patience please
[04:45] <doug> i only have the drive that i installed ubuntu on
[04:45] <doug> ok
[04:45] <argunda> bruenig: /dev/hda1
[04:46] <doug> i took out the other one that had windows ME on it because I thought that was part of the problem
[04:46] <haasteem> Warbo: i see
[04:46] <bruenig> argunda, ok first do this sudo mkdir /media/hda1
[04:46] <argunda> ok
[04:46] <Warbo> doug: Linux calls drives /dev/XdX, where the first X is an h or an s, depending on what type of drive it is, and the second X is the drive's position. hda is the first IDE drive, and sdc is the third SATA/SCSI/USB drive for example
[04:46] <bruenig> argunda, now do this sudo chown -R username /media/hda1, insert your username
[04:46] <wheels3572> Anyone in here help me with VNCviewer
[04:47] <Warbo> doug: Could you try to make an educated guess at your drive's name?
[04:47] <haasteem> Warbo: is that only valid though for when i use gnome as the desktop manager (right, i am using blackbox)?
[04:47] <bruenig> argunda, you got that?
[04:47] <argunda> wait
[04:47] <doug> i have no idea
[04:47] <Warbo> haasteem: I would say so, but personally I would install ubuntu-desktop anyway, because I would think that the more customised the system, the more likely an upgrade problem is
[04:47] <argunda> space after the comma?
[04:48] <sizzam> i want to execute a shell script as sudo automatically whenever i log into my box, is there an easy way to do that?
[04:48] <argunda> bruenig: space after comma?
[04:48] <doug> it says that there are 2 HD but there are not
[04:48] <doug> there is just one
[04:48] <argunda> wait NVM LOL
[04:48] <bruenig> argunda, don't do that insert your username part, that was telling you to replace your username
[04:48] <bruenig> lol
[04:48] <argunda> LMAO
[04:48] <doug> the disk manager says both are unknown
[04:48] <wind> hey bruenig, if my screen res is 1280x800 what would i pick for step 5 (on this site: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Serengeti_Usplash_for_Dapper)
[04:48] <chungaroo> can someone help me sync my ipod with banshee?
[04:48] <argunda> sorry lack of sleep is getting to me  >.<
[04:48] <doug> one says casper
[04:48] <haasteem> Warbo: that's a good point... so revert to general first, and then customize back
[04:48] <Warbo> doug: Great, so educated guess means nothing then? I told you how they are named, and you know what type and order they are since you have been plugging/unplugging them
[04:48] <Krank> May I ask a newbie install question?
[04:49] <sizzam> whats up Krank?
[04:49] <bruenig> wind, USplash is so insignificant. I have no idea, pick as big a resolution as it will allow or the closest I guess I should say
[04:49] <bruenig> argunda, ok so you got that?
[04:49] <wind> k
[04:49] <Warbo> haasteem: Well don't switch back to GNOME, just install the ubuntu-desktop package. Then get rid of the stuff you don't want afterwards. No need starting from scratch
[04:49] <argunda> bruenig: yes
[04:49] <bruenig> argunda, ok now do sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:49] <Warbo> doug: The casper one is being used by the LiveCD, I told you
[04:50] <haasteem> Warbo: that's what i meant... to me ubuntu-desktop is part of "general" ;)
[04:50] <chungaroo> is there a channel that deals specifically w/ banshee?
[04:50] <doug> ok then the other says tmpfs
[04:50] <Warbo> doug: If you want a short answer then running "sudo grub-install /dev/hda" might do it. But your drive might not be hda
[04:50] <doug> and it says there are no partitions on it
[04:50] <bruenig> argunda, what is the filesystem of your drive? is it ext3, ntfs, fat32, another?
[04:50] <chops-> whats the default login name used when someone freshly installs ubuntu
[04:50] <bruenig> chops, ubuntu
[04:50] <Warbo> chops-: Whatever you told it to be
[04:51] <Krank> I have and XP and Vista B2 install. Xp on C and Vista on another drive G... I have not played with Vista much lately, so I want to give 6.06 a go. Will Grub and Vista's boot manager play well or should I get rid of Vista and have grub handle XP and Ub?
[04:51] <bruenig> chops, it should login automatically
[04:51] <doug> you just type that in a terminal?
[04:51] <argunda> bruenig: ntfs
[04:51] <bruenig> chops-, I thought you mean live cd, my fault, yeah it is whatever you said during configuration
[04:51] <Warbo> doug: Yes. If it complains about the device then it isn't hda, basically
[04:51] <bruenig> when that is open add this line, /dev/hda1       /media/hda1           ntfs    defaults        0       0
[04:51] <argunda> bruenig: in fstab?
[04:51] <haasteem> Warbo: anyways, thanks for the advice
[04:51] <bruenig> just copy and paste that argunda and save
[04:51] <bruenig> yes fstab
[04:51] <cerda> how can i mount a cd ive just copyed to HD ???
[04:51] <HeathenDan> need a little help. i can't make new appointments in evolution. it says the calendar is read-only
[04:52] <bruenig> it should line up real nicely with the stuff on top
[04:52] <Warbo> chops-: If you don't remember what you chose then by default Ubuntu uses your first name in lowercase
[04:52] <sizzam> anyone an op on #ubuntuforums?   for some reason i can't get in to the channel, says im banned
[04:52] <Warbo> cerda: As iso format?
[04:52] <chops-> i remember the password
[04:52] <cerda> Warbo no, i have just copyed the files
[04:52] <bruenig> cerda, so you just want to mount the hard drive?
[04:53] <Warbo> cerda: You cannot mount a folder full of files, since by definition it is already mounted!
[04:53] <HeathenDan> ok, figured it out. silly me.
[04:53] <argunda> bruenig: The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/fstab.
[04:53] <argunda> Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.
[04:53] <argunda> do I need to make myself root?
[04:53] <cerda> i want to mount them on the cd drive
[04:53] <Warbo> argunda: Use "sudo" before stuff like that
[04:53] <argunda> Warbo: ok
[04:53] <doug> whan i type that it says command not found
[04:53] <bruenig> argunda, close out of that, open a fresh terminal and do this sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:53] <cerda> so i dont need to put the CD every time i want to play warcraft :P
[04:54] <sizzam> anyone an op on #ubuntuforums?   for some reason i can't get in to the channel, says im banned
[04:54] <chops-> it said some default username then i was to change it once i had logged in but i never choose that one
[04:54] <Warbo> cerda: You seem to misunderstand the concept of mounting. Mounting a CD puts it's filesystem's root into a folder so it can be accessed. If you already have the contents in a folder then there is no need to mount anything, just tell it where the folder is
[04:55] <bruenig> sizzam, you might try the !ops factoid and see if there are some overlapping ops, warning though, they tend not to like being disturbed
[04:55] <ardchoille> !lamp
[04:55] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:55] <Warbo> chops-: Are you sure this is regular Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu?
[04:55] <doug> invalid device requested
[04:55] <bruenig> argunda, did you get the fstab open?
[04:55] <sizzam> bruenig: thanks
[04:55] <marcusgrazette> hi, i've got a question about repartitioning, when i installed ubuntu i kept windows xp so i could dual boot. so i had 3 partitions ntfs, ext3, and fat32 for sharing between win and ubuntu. now i want to get rid of the fat32 and enlarge the ext3 partition so that it uses all of the space that the fat32 used. i've tried using the ubuntu live cd and qtparted with no sucess. can anyone help with this? i can give more details/screenshots if needed
[04:55] <chops-> use i downloaded the iso and installed it
[04:55] <sizzam> !ops
[04:55] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[04:55] <Warbo> doug: Try sda, or hdb, or sdb, etc.
[04:56] <chops-> from the website
[04:56] <cerda> warbo cedega asks for cd when i try to play, and theres no place where i can tell the program to look for the cd on the hard drive :(
[04:56] <DBO> sizzam???
[04:56] <nalioth> sizzam: yes?
[04:56] <bruenig> marcusgrazette, are the fat32 partitions and ext3 partitions side by side?
[04:56] <imbrandon> ?
[04:56] <argunda> bruenig: /dev/hda1       /media/hda1           ntfs    defaults        0       0
[04:56] <chops-> the only name i put was the systems name and the password and the systems name is showing with the time/date
[04:56] <argunda> bruenig: oops LOL
[04:56] <nan> wow that bootup looks secksi
[04:56] <Crell42> Hi folks.  I'm  having an issue with Kunbuntu and wireless.  It's a desktop system with a D-Link Aetheros chipset PCI card.
[04:56] <argunda> bruenig: mount: only root can mount /dev/hda1 on /media/hda1
[04:56] <bruenig> argunda, yeah put that in the fstab at the bottom of the file
[04:56] <marcusgrazette> brueing: no there's a linux swap in the way
[04:57] <bruenig> don't use mount. put that in the fstab
[04:57] <Crell42> Kubuntu shows it in lspci, but iwconfig doesn't show a wlan0
[04:57] <nalioth> sizzam: what did you need?
[04:57] <argunda> ok
[04:57] <marcusgrazette> brueing:  http://flickr.com/photos/marcusg/216667213/ - that shows the layout
[04:57] <Warbo> Ah, Cedega. I don't know if emulating a CD drive is possible. Maybe it could use an iso as a CD drive? (to make an iso run "dd if=/dev/your-cdrom-drive of=/whatever/you/want/the/image/to/be/called.iso" then you can mount THAT with "sudo mount -o loop called.iso /wherever/you/want/to/access/it")
[04:57] <sizzam> nalioth: for some reason i'm banned from #ubuntuforums, trying to figure out whats wrong
[04:57] <argunda> bruenig: I did and saved
[04:57] <Crell42> The wiki says to play with ndiswrapper, but it's an Aetheros chip, so it shouldn't be necessary.
[04:57] <nalioth> sizzam: we are not affiliated with #ubuntuforums
[04:57] <Crell42> Any suggestions?
[04:58] <doug> i am doing this from the grub> prompt
[04:58] <doug> right
[04:58] <doug> ?
[04:58] <nalioth> sizzam: join #ubuntu-offtopic and see if you can get guidance there
[04:58] <bruenig> marcuxgrazette, it is not possible. well it is possible but it would take a lot of configuring. You would have to delete the swap. then delete the fat32, then resize the ext3 leaving enough room for the swap. remake the swap. By doing that you would likely change the name of the swap which means you would have to change the fstab entry.
[04:58] <Warbo> doug: From a terminal
[04:58] <sizzam> nalioth: oops, sorry  about that, someone suggested using ! ops, i'm not sure exactly what i'm doing
[04:58] <sizzam> thanks
[04:58] <doug> right and the prompt says grub>
[04:58] <doug> right?
[04:58] <Warbo> doug: "sudo grub-install /dev/devicename"
[04:58] <evil-tux> nite
[04:58] <bruenig> argunda. Ok do you want a link on your desktop to the device so you can browse it from there, most do so I figured I would ask
[04:58] <fivre> is there any way to run apt-get upgrade but not upgrade a particular package?
[04:58] <cerda> warbo thats what i was looking for, thanks =)
[04:59] <Warbo> doug: The prompt should say "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$" (or something like that)
[04:59] <evil-tux> nite
[04:59] <argunda> bruenig: ok
[04:59] <Crell42> fivre: aptitude hold packagename, I think.
[04:59] <bruenig> argunda, ok do cd ~/Desktop
[04:59] <marcusgrazette>  bruenig: when i try to delete the swap, qtparted says that it is already mounted.
[04:59] <Warbo> fivre: Use aptitude to hold it (using the = key)
[04:59] <bruenig> argunda, then do ln -s /media/hda1
[05:00] <Crell42> No ideas on wireless?
[05:00] <Warbo> marcusgrazette: Deleting swap? Have you "sudo swapoff /dev/device"d?
[05:00] <chops-> warbo no matter what i try i can't get in
[05:00] <bruenig> marcuxgrazette, you sure you want to do this? It might take 20 thirty minutes or so?
[05:00] <chops-> sudo i thought was the name it said
[05:00] <Warbo> chops-: sudo is a command
[05:00] <argunda> bruenig: did it but it doesnt show anything
[05:00] <bruenig> argunda, restart your computer and then it will all work
[05:00] <Warbo> chops-: You could boot into recovery mode and run "adduser" from there
[05:00] <argunda> bruenig: o ok thanks
[05:01] <joinertek> anybody a vnc guru?
[05:01] <bruenig> upon restart the hda1 will be mounted and you can view it in that folder
[05:01] <argunda> :D
[05:01] <argunda> w00t!
[05:01] <argunda> thank you!!!!!
[05:01] <marcusgrazette> bruenig: i have to use the live cd right? there's no way i can do it when the computer's running normally/
[05:01] <doug> not found or not a block device
[05:01] <Warbo> "sudo mount -a" surely mounts the contents of fstab?
[05:01] <bruenig> marcuxgrazette, yes you can
[05:01] <chops-> ok let me try that
[05:02] <bruenig> marcusgrazette, you need to deactivate the swap, then unmount it using the command warbo gave you should work. Or you can do it graphically in gparted by right clicking on it and then clicking deactivate
[05:03] <marcusgrazette> bruenig: ok, i've launched qtparted, but the status of hda is busy? would i be able to modify it?
[05:03] <bruenig> the command warbo gave you for deactivating it
[05:03] <bruenig> not unmounting it
[05:03] <Warbo> doug: Try "fdisk -l" and see what drives appear
[05:04] <chops-> warbo whats the best way to add a user under recover what commands
[05:04] <Warbo> chops-: "adduser" I think
[05:04] <marcusgrazette> bruenig: i've run warbo's command
[05:04] <Warbo> there is also "useradd" but it doesn't set up a lot of stuff like adduser does
[05:04] <chops-> adduser blahblah
[05:04] <doug> ok
[05:05] <Warbo> chops-: It should ask you stuff like username, password and stuff
[05:05] <doug> nothing
[05:05] <Warbo> doug: Do you have ANY real hard drives plugged in?
[05:05] <bruenig> marcusgrazette, ok now unmount it
[05:05] <doug> 2
[05:05] <marcusgrazette> bruenig: and deleted the swap
[05:05] <Warbo> Then it should show something
[05:05] <doug> this happened after I tried to update ubuntu
[05:05] <doug> it showed that I had no drives in the computer
[05:06] <bruenig> marcusgrazette. then delete the other drive and resize the ext3 and then make the swap
[05:06] <doug> but i clearly have 2
[05:06] <chops-> and what about adding the user i added with full axx
[05:06] <doug> one 40 gig the other 10
[05:06] <trygg> Ive followed 3 different how-to's that I've been directed to but to no avail.
[05:06] <trygg> I hate this stuff. I've tried to get my Radeon 9000 to work on ubuntu but it just wont do it.
[05:06] <bruenig> make sure the swaps device name is the same as it was before, if not you will have to tweak the fstab a bit
[05:06] <Megaqwerty> Is it possible to have both kde and gnome on ubuntu? And if so, can I choose which one to use at login?
[05:06] <Warbo> chops-: You would need to add that user to the group "admin", but I forget the command. Ask the channel for it
[05:06] <bruenig> Megaqerty, yes
[05:06] <Megaqwerty> bruenig: how? Is there a tutorial?
[05:06] <doug> i don't get it its like the drives arent there
[05:07] <doug> but they are
[05:07] <marcusgrazette> bruenig: there's an extended partition around the free space. there's no option to delete it and it wont let me resize the ext3
[05:07] <doug> one had windows ME the other ubuntu
[05:07] <doug> both working fine
[05:07] <bruenig> megaqwerty, do sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, it will install kde and then you will be able to pick which one to login to from the gdm before you login from the options at the bottom of the screen
[05:07] <doug> then after the update and restart it said operating sytem not found
[05:07] <doug> even in my bios it says there is no HD
[05:07] <Warbo> Megaqwerty: Just install "ubuntu-desktop" to get GNOME, "kubuntu-desktop" to get KDE, and there is a button "Session" on the login screen (in default login screen it may be under "Options")
[05:07] <doug> what does that mean
[05:07] <bruenig> marcusgrazette. Oh yeah. because the ext3 is running your ubuntu. Yeah, looks like livecd time
[05:08] <JoshYme1> help... all of my stuff is jacked up in synaptics.. something about sources..
[05:08] <Megaqwerty> thanks guys!!
[05:08] <JoshYme1> i can't use vnc either
[05:08] <bruenig> I didn't think about that part of it
[05:08] <Warbo> doug: Reinstalling GRUb will not help if your BIOS doesn't detect the drives
[05:08] <doug> but what happened
[05:08] <joinertek> vnc is kicking my a**
[05:08] <Warbo> In fact, reinstalling GRUB is impossible if the BIOS doesn't detect the drive
[05:08] <Megaqwerty> also, what is the gdm?
[05:08] <DrBanzai> Anybody know how to get minicom to talk to a serial device OTHER then a modem, like, directly to a console port?
[05:08] <doug> this all happened after I downloaded 152 updates for ubuntu then restarted my machinne
[05:08] <Warbo> Megaqwerty: The GNOME Display Manager. It is the login screen
[05:08] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[05:09] <bruenig> megaqwerty, yeah login screen sorry for the lingo if you can call it that
[05:09] <doug> did ubuntu do this
[05:09] <doug> because i had no problems until i did that
[05:09] <Warbo> doug: I would doubt it. It sounds like a hardware problem
[05:09] <Megaqwerty> bruenig: that is fine. I have to learn it sooner or later :)
[05:09] <JoshYme1> I am getting public key errors..
[05:09] <doug> this didn't happen until I ran that update for this ubuntu
[05:10] <marcusgrazette> bruenig: ok, i can reboot with the live cd, it'll take about 10 mins to install qtparted cus it doesnt seem to be included on the ubuntu cd
[05:10] <bruenig> doug, what happened again?
[05:10] <bruenig> marcusgrazette, gnome partition editor is on the live cd
[05:10] <doug> i had windows ME on this computer
[05:10] <bruenig> use that
[05:10] <doug> on a 10 gig drive
[05:10] <Warbo> doug: My 2 drive LVM setup didn't fail until I opened an image file. Try telling the image file that it caused the plates to stop spinning.....
[05:10] <doug> i installed ubuntu on a seperated drive 40 gig
[05:10] <doug> then it worked fine
[05:10] <marcusgrazette> ok i'll reboot and log back on to irc
[05:11] <doug> dual boot and everything
[05:11] <doug> then I saw trhat there wee updates for ubuntu
[05:11] <doug> i installed them
[05:11] <bruenig> !return
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about return - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <doug> restarted the machine
[05:11] <wind> how do i add things to the panel so when i minimize they minimize to their respective icon instead of being a bar like a window
[05:11] <bruenig> ~enter
[05:11] <bruenig> !enter
[05:11] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[05:11] <Warbo> One thing I like about Linux: After my drives did fail, I could continue to browse my pictures because they were loaded into memory :)
[05:11] <Kr0ntab> sup folks
[05:11] <JoshYme1> what does this mean? : GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available
[05:11] <doug> and when it booted up it says operating sytem not found
[05:11] <Warbo> wind: SOunds like you want E16's icon box
[05:12] <bruenig> doug, odd. I have installed probably 10 times, updating all the way everytime and it all worked seamlessly, perhaps there was something else that happened?
[05:12] <wind> ?
[05:12] <doug> nothing
[05:12] <keleus> amarok won't use visualizations, says libvisual might not be installed. It is... what do I try next...
[05:12] <Warbo> wind: A little applet that runs in the Enlightenment DR16 Window Manager
[05:12] <wind> i had gaim doing it for a bit
[05:12] <doug> it  asked me to int=stall those updates twice though
[05:12] <doug> i know that
[05:12] <wind> but then i accidently removed the gaim icon from the panel and i can't get it back
[05:12] <wind> i also want to put xchat on the panel
[05:13] <bruenig> wind, for gaim, just close it, it will remain in the notification area
[05:13] <eff> wind what about alacarte
[05:13] <bruenig> for rhythmbox, you click on the symbol to make it minimize to it
[05:13] <Warbo> keleus: It also supports XMMS visualisations, if you install them (I think the latest Amarok needs libvisual 0.4 and Ubutnu might not haver it)
[05:13] <wind> notification area?
[05:13] <bruenig> tray
[05:13] <ardchoille> wind: right-click the panel, choose Add to panel, look for the notification area applet in the applet gui, then drag it to the panel
[05:13] <bruenig> whatever you call it
[05:13] <Warbo> wind: By the clock
[05:13] <JoshYme1> can someone help me?
[05:13] <wind> ahh
[05:13] <wind> there it is
[05:13] <wind> the notification thing
[05:14] <doug> when i run system admin disks
[05:14] <wind> how do i add stuff to it, like xchat
[05:14] <doug> it shows the live drive and the ither drive
[05:14] <bruenig> wind, are you talking about something that launches programs or the thing by the clock?
[05:14] <wind> thing by the clock
[05:14] <ardchoille> wind: That would be taken care of by the app itself (xhcat) you need to find the icon properties in xchat options
[05:14] <bruenig> because things go there if they are intended to go there, they will go
[05:14] <bruenig> !info xchat-systray
[05:14] <ubotu> xchat-systray: xchat systray notification icon. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.5-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 51 kB, installed size 240 kB
[05:14] <bruenig> that package does it for xchat
[05:14] <doug> yes i did open an image file before this
[05:15] <doug> happened
[05:15] <Warbo> doug: You could try joining #hardware if it is a hardware issue
[05:15] <wind> woo
[05:15] <wind> thanks
[05:15] <Warbo> wind: Do you want an OSX style launcher bar?
[05:16] <wind> that thing on the bottom that gets bigger and smaller when you mouse over it?
[05:16] <doug> i dont get it
[05:16] <ardchoille> bruenig: lol
[05:16] <Warbo> wind: Yes, sounds like what you are after
[05:16] <eff> wind gdesklets
[05:16] <wind> widgets?
[05:16] <wind> or something
[05:16] <Warbo> Gdesklets, adesklets, cairo-panel
[05:16] <bruenig> widgets indeed
[05:16] <Warbo> (I think adesklets is the best)
[05:16] <JoshYme1> can someone please help me with apt???
[05:17] <wheels3572> JoshYme1, what do you need
[05:17] <wind> i've used that before on a g4
[05:17] <wind> it was pretty cool, can you do that with ubuntu?
[05:17] <JoshYme1> wheels3572, i'm getting the following error: : GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available
[05:17] <eff> wind
[05:17] <bruenig> one of the only things stopping me from going over to dreamlinux is that OSX style which even though I know I can change it can't stand. oh and all the forums are in brazilian
[05:17] <eff> sure
[05:17] <syntaxx> anyone using tvtime? my sound not working properly
[05:17] <Crell42> Is there a way to tell what kernel modules are compiled into my kernel?
[05:17] <BlueEagle> joshyme1: cat /etc/apt/sources.list and read the comments please.
[05:17] <Warbo> JoshYme1: It means that the archive you are getting packages from cannot be authenticated, so it could be installing evil spyware which eats children. It probably isn't though, so don't worry about it
[05:18] <BlueEagle> joshyme1: (assuming you used source-o-matic)
[05:18] <Crell42> Not just modules, but compiled in.
[05:18] <JoshYme1> for some reason though everything i try to istall it can't get.
[05:18] <bruenig> JoshYme1, you need to run some command that I forget with the gpg key
[05:18] <eff> I need help using MYSQL with java
[05:18] <Warbo> wind: The most cool one is on gnome-dock.org, but the most functional are gdesklets and adesklets
[05:18] <Warbo> !info gdesklets
[05:18] <ubotu> gdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 465 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[05:18] <BlueEagle> joshyme1: if you used source-o-matic there should be instructions in your sources.list for how to authenticate those repos.
[05:18] <Warbo> !info adesklets
[05:18] <ubotu> adesklets: interactive Imlib2 console for the X Window System. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-2 (dapper), package size 197 kB, installed size 544 kB
[05:18] <argunda> whats the equivilaent of My Computer on Kubuntu?
[05:18] <eff> I got as far as downloading Jconnector
[05:18] <JoshYme1> BlueEagle, i didn't how to do i run the gpg for he key??
[05:19] <wind> what's so cool about it
[05:19] <Warbo> argunda: The "Places" list in the left of Konqureor (I think it is called places...)
[05:19] <wind> i'm downloading gdesklets
[05:19] <eff> wind
[05:19] <marcusgrazette> bruenig: i'm back, running the live cd, where do i find gparted?
[05:19] <bruenig> wind, no........, your memory will have to work now
[05:19] <eff> I used it
[05:19] <eff> for a while
[05:19] <wind> ?
[05:19] <bruenig> marcusgrazette. System>administratio>gnome partition editor
[05:19] <BlueEagle> joshyme1: See  your /msg
[05:19] <eff> it was good
[05:20] <Warbo> wind: cairo-dock (gnome-dock is based on it but not released yet) is full of fancy animationy stuff, whilst the others can be a little slower and less flashy. I gave up on Gdesklets because it's seppd is terrible
[05:20] <Warbo> *speed
[05:20] <eff> you have to look for it ina huge list of desktop things
[05:20] <syntaxx> anyone using tvtime? my sound not working properly
[05:20] <bruenig> I need browser maximization, else the docklet is pretty cool
[05:20] <eff> there are clocks and a bunch of stuff
[05:20] <wind> ok, now it's uninstalled
[05:20] <wind> do i not want any of those?
[05:20] <bruenig> wind, it is in toolbars I think
[05:20] <BlueEagle> joshyme1: you will ofcourse need to replace KEY with the key to the repository in question.
[05:20] <eff> you just pick the one you need '
[05:21] <bruenig> wind, I use all of the system monitor things like CPU memory and net, those are pretty cool
[05:21] <Warbo> The only reason I don't have adesklets on right now is that it has decided to put itself on top of everything in E16.8 :(
[05:21] <Dev05> Can I make apt-get install .deb files from my local filesystem?
[05:21] <Warbo> Dev05: No. You can use dpkg to do it though
[05:21] <bruenig> Dev05, sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[05:21] <eff> wind
[05:21] <wind> what
[05:21] <BlueEagle> joshyme1: for archive.ubuntu.com the KEY should be 437D05B5
[05:21] <marcusgrazette> bruenig: i think i've figured it out
[05:21] <Dev05> Warbo, bruenig, Thanks!
[05:21] <eff> windL why don't you make a bigger panel and have only icons on it
[05:21] <bruenig> marcusgrazette, is the new swap the same name as the old swap?
[05:22] <wind> no clue
[05:22] <JoshYme1> BlueEagle, ok but how would I add that??
[05:22] <marcusgrazette> yeah 1024mb
[05:22] <nikosapi> Is it possible to install ubuntu without the cd and without a pxe network boot?
[05:22] <bruenig> marcusgrazette. the same name, as in dev/sda#
[05:22] <BlueEagle> joshyme1: Have you noticed that I sendt you a private message?
[05:22] <JoshYme1> BlueEagle, yes sir.. and i replied back
[05:22] <Warbo> Oh yeah, the default Firefox icon in the Gdesklets launcher for some reason opens at some USA university for some reason. You need to get rid of the "%u" after the firefox command. I have already submitted a bug report
[05:22] <JoshYme1> BlueEagle, i got an error message
[05:23] <marcusgrazette> bruenig: it's New Partition #1 at the moment
[05:23] <wind> with kubuntu there was this package program, adept
[05:23] <BlueEagle> joshyme1: You are not authenticated with nickserv so I didn't recieve your message.
[05:23] <wind> is there something like that with ubuntu
[05:23] <Remy> hey guys, I have a hp all-in-one printer (c3180) plugged in via USB.  anyone know how to get it working on ubuntu ?
[05:23] <Warbo> !synaptic
[05:23] <Remy> !hp
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[05:23] <JoshYme1> BlueEagle, oh i got this error: root@jylaptop:/etc/apt/apt.conf.d#  gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv KEY
[05:23] <JoshYme1> gpg: directory `/root/.gnupg' created
[05:23] <JoshYme1> gpg: new configuration file `/root/.gnupg/gpg.conf' created
[05:23] <JoshYme1> gpg: WARNING: options in `/root/.gnupg/gpg.conf' are not yet active during this run
[05:23] <JoshYme1> gpg: keyring `/root/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created
[05:23] <BlueEagle> joshyme1: did you replace the KEY with the actual key for the repository?
[05:23] <JoshYme1> gpg: keyring `/root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg' created
[05:23] <JoshYme1> gpg: "KEY" not a key ID: skipping
[05:23] <bruenig> marcusgrazette, wheneve it is made, make sure it is the same name as the old swap, because if not some fstab editing must be done
[05:23] <BlueEagle> !paste
[05:23] <bruenig> !past
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <wind> sudo apt-get install synaptic?
[05:23] <Warbo> !paste > JoshYme1
[05:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:23] <Warbo> wind: You should have it. If not then yes
[05:23] <chops-> anyone know how to give an account admin access via the recovery console ?
[05:24] <Elios> any one here
[05:24] <BlueEagle> joshyme1: Oh, I'm sorry. I pasted the comments from my sources.list. Comments in that file (and most configuration files) start with #
[05:24] <Warbo> Elios: 822 people
[05:24] <Elios> ok whats the default root pass
[05:24] <Elios> >.>
[05:24] <BlueEagle> joshyme1: You were not supposed to include that (ie it's not part of the command)
[05:24] <bruenig> !sudo > Elios
[05:24] <BlueEagle> elios: not set.
[05:24] <Warbo> Elios: There is not even a default root ACCOUNT :)
[05:24] <Elios> i just installed ubuntu
[05:24] <syntaxx> i wonder whats wrong in tvtime sound in debian it works fine but when i shift to ubuntu my sound not working properly anyone who can help me?
[05:24] <Elios> oh
[05:24] <JoshYme1> BlueEagle, i didn't include the #
[05:24] <Elios> ok
[05:24] <Elios> lol
[05:24] <Remy> !printin
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about printin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <Warbo> !root > Elios
[05:24] <marcusgrazette> bruenig: the swap was /dev/hda5 before...how do i change the name, there's no rename option when i right click. do i need to apply the changes first?
[05:24] <BlueEagle> joshyme1: o'rly?
[05:24] <Elios> ok
[05:24] <szf> Elios - root is disabled by default
[05:24] <Elios> ahhh
[05:25] <Warbo> USe sudo instead of su
[05:25] <Elios> ok
[05:25] <bruenig> marcusgrazette, just click the checkmark in the gui, that means apply
[05:25] <BlueEagle> 05:24 < JoshYme1> BlueEagle, oh i got this error: root@jylaptop:/etc/apt/apt.conf.d#  gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv KEY <= There are TWO errors here.
[05:25] <Elios> http://www.howtoforge.com/book/print/917
[05:25] <Elios> im trying to do that
[05:25] <szf> sudo passwd root
[05:25] <BlueEagle> joshyme1: 1: You didn't replace KEY with the actual key for the repository
[05:25] <Elios> i do that
[05:25] <bruenig> marcusgrazette, you can't rename it, you just need to change the fstab entry to reflect the new name
[05:25] <JoshYme1> BlueEagle, gotcha..
[05:25] <Elios> and it asks for a password
[05:25] <Elios> >.>
[05:25] <sslaura> hello.  does anyone know if it's possible to boot the PPC livecd and then remove the CD?  my hard drive is broken and I want to use the CD player
[05:25] <BlueEagle> joshyme1: 2: You included the # before gpg
[05:26] <BlueEagle> joshyme1: oh my.. you're not doing this as root are you? o.O
[05:26] <marcusgrazette> bruenig: ok i think i know how to do that....sudo nano /etc/fstab right?
[05:26] <Warbo> szf: If someone doesn't know about sudo then don't tell them how to enable root. If they say they don't like sudo and really want to enable root then that is OK
[05:26] <argunda> Warbo: couldn't find Places
[05:26] <szf> thats a new password - enter something reasonably strong
[05:26] <bruenig> marcusgrazette, not quite as your fstab is not mounted
[05:26] <JoshYme1> BlueEagle, yes don't i have to be root?
[05:26] <Warbo> argunda: Hang on, I'll install Konqueror
[05:26] <bruenig> that would be the fstab of the livecd
[05:26] <BlueEagle> joshyme1: No. Unless you know for a fact that you need to be root you should ALWAYS use your user account. And in the cases where you actually need to be root use sudo.
[05:26] <ruxpin> X detected my new video card settings automagically (how?) but defaulted to a wrong keyboard layout. how can I change the default it sets to?
[05:27] <marcusgrazette> bruenig: ok so i just need to find the path to the fstab on my hard dirve?
[05:27] <szf> warbo - Ia gree to a great extent - but I'm coming from a Fedora perspective
[05:27] <bruenig> marcusgrazette, do the following mdkir ~/bruenig
[05:27] <szf> I *really like* how ubuntu does it
[05:27] <bruenig> marcusgrazette, then do this sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda# ~/bruenig replace the number sign with whatever the name of the ext3 partition is that has your fstab
[05:28] <Crell42> Does Ubuntu-server's kernel not include the madwifi driver?
[05:28] <BlueEagle> joshyme1: (unless of course you need to do something like echo somestring >> somerootaccessonlyfile then you should use su -c)
[05:28] <BlueEagle> joshyme1: Helps keep your system safe from stupid mistakes.
[05:28] <Elios> ok
[05:28] <Elios> got it
[05:28] <Elios> thanks
[05:28] <JoshYme1> BlueEagle, ok so if I do what you told me.. what shoudl i put in the place of KEY ?"
[05:28] <Elios> i havent messed with nix in years
[05:28] <Elios> XD
[05:28] <Elios> but its coming back
[05:29] <Warbo> Gah, I can't get Konqueror out of web browser mode
[05:29] <marcusgrazette> bruenig:  the resizing failed. i'll try it again
[05:29] <BlueEagle> 05:22 < BlueEagle> joshyme1: for archive.ubuntu.com the KEY should be 437D05B5
[05:29] <mainer> i'm old school i keep both options open i su to root change passwd so apps need ing sudo prompt for it,gksu uses it, but su=new root-user passwd,but if new to linux,i won't recommend that
[05:29] <marcusgrazette> bruenig: i need to go for about 30 mins...i'll get back to you when i get back to the comptuer
[05:29] <bruenig> marcusgrazette, I wont be here
[05:29] <marcusgrazette> bruenig: ok
[05:30] <bruenig> what you need to do is make a directory, mount your root partition in it, then edit the fstab in there to reflect the new name
[05:30] <bruenig> then you will be done
[05:30] <Warbo> I use sudo -s -H and that lets me do enough stupid stuff :) (note: do not uninstall libc6 again)
[05:30] <marcusgrazette> bruenig: thanks
[05:30] <bruenig> sudo su
[05:30] <BlueEagle> joshyme1: oh, and one more thing. Pretty, pretty please do not execute commands whose function you do not understand just because someone tells you to. Please read the manual for commands you haven't used before and make sure you understand what they are doing. Too many systems has been lost by the combination of gullible users and "helpers" with a bad sense of humor.
[05:30] <syntaxx> i wonder whats wrong in tvtime sound in debian it works fine but when i shift to ubuntu my sound not working properly anyone who can help me?
[05:30] <wind> what is a good dvd movie player? with kubuntu i used kaffeine
[05:30] <holycow> anyone ever haveto go back and setup windows, windows server and some rdp clients?
[05:31] <holycow> oh my god what a nightmare
[05:31] <Warbo> How do I turn on Konqueror's sidebar thingie?
[05:31] <bruenig> my favorite command is sudo rm -rf /
[05:31] <Awesome-o2000> how can I prevent my /etc/resolv.conf from having the search line added to it when I get a new ip address via dhcp?
[05:31] <holycow> bruenig, i did that on / once :)
[05:31] <Elios> ok if i did this right i should be able to ssh in
[05:31] <BlueEagle> bruenig: I am talking exactly about people like you. Shame on you.
[05:31] <Warbo> I think everyone has done it once
[05:31] <nomin> wind:  I use kaffeine with ubuntu
[05:31] <eff> holycow: brave man you are
[05:31] <Elios> hmm
[05:31] <bruenig> shame on me. I never help anyone ever
[05:31] <Warbo> (Good thing I did it on Madrake. I hate it)
[05:31] <Elios> ok it didnt let me
[05:32] <Elios> i installed the ssh deamon
[05:32] <JoshYme1> BlueEagle, ok i did that now i try to install vnc and i get this: Package xvncviewer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:32] <JoshYme1> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:32] <JoshYme1> is only available from another source
[05:32] <JoshYme1> E: Package xvncviewer has no installation candidate
[05:32] <Elios> apt-get install ssh openssh-server
[05:32] <Warbo> !xvncviewer
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xvncviewer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <holycow> eff,  i had no choice, i cannot possibly explain the lame farkin hackery i just spent 3 days on.  people tell me linux is complicated and hard to learn, damn ... try actually solving a problem on windows
[05:32] <Elios> does that make it run after install?
[05:32] <jrsims> can I get some advice for installing the core fonts on ubunut?
[05:32] <bruenig> !info xvncviewer
[05:32] <ubotu> xvncviewer: Virtual network computing client software for X. In component main, is optional. Version 3.3.7-8ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 56 kB, installed size 208 kB
[05:32] <BlueEagle> !info xvncviewer
[05:32] <ubotu> xvncviewer: Virtual network computing client software for X. In component main, is optional. Version 3.3.7-8ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 56 kB, installed size 208 kB
[05:32] <holycow> i gotta say tho windows users tend to be nice tho
[05:32] <BlueEagle> bruenig: You're faster than me. :)
[05:32] <nomin> !fceu
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fceu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <Warbo> Oh, it's in main. (you beat me to !info as well)
[05:33] <BlueEagle> joshyme1: did you update after adding the key?
[05:33] <bruenig> indeed I am which is how I get those people to do the great sudo rm -rf /
[05:33] <JoshYme1> BlueEagle, ys
[05:33] <Elios> ok
[05:33] <bruenig> well I am off to sleep
[05:33] <Elios> question i can log in via ssh with the boxes ip but not its host name?
[05:33] <Elios> why?
[05:33] <BlueEagle> joshyme1: I see. Perhaps you should try source-o-matic. It helps assure you that you've got a good sources.list
[05:34] <Remy> hey guys, anyone know much about hplip and hp-setup ?
[05:34] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell joshyme1 about easysource
[05:34] <BlueEagle> remy: Probably the guys that made it. If you've got a question about it please ask the question instead of asking if people know about something.
[05:35] <Elios> hmm
[05:35] <Elios> ok
[05:35] <Elios> i REALY need to su
[05:35] <Elios> but it wont let me
[05:35] <Elios> >.>
[05:35] <wind> should iget totem xine or totem gstreamer
[05:35] <mainer> sudo su
[05:35] <BlueEagle> elios: Who provides the hostname?
[05:35] <Elios> and my user pass isnt working like with sudo
[05:35] <Elios> me
[05:35] <Elios> tomato is the hostname
[05:35] <kgeffert> Elios: run ssh -v "hostname" and see what it does
[05:35] <Elios> ok
[05:35] <Remy> I'm following the installation instructions found here: http://hplip.sourceforge.net/install/index.html  -  when I get to stage 4 it says to run hp-setup, which I try to, but it's not a recognized command on my system...
[05:35] <Remy> even though I have got HPLIP installed
[05:35] <BlueEagle> elios: let me rephrase: Where is the the hostname specified?
[05:36] <Megaqwerty> I'm installing KDE on ubuntu and it is asking me what I want for my postfix configuration...What is that?
[05:36] <JoshYme1> BlueEagle, ok.. great.. sources.list in /etc/apt right?
[05:36] <BlueEagle> elios: ie. are you using an external DNS server and attempting to connect from the local network?
[05:36] <BlueEagle> joshyme1: yes.
[05:36] <wheels3572> JoshYme1, your looking for the sources.list then yes in that directory
[05:36] <Elios> kgeffert from were my wintel box or on the server it self?
[05:36] <Elios> local network
[05:37] <syntaxx> i think ill shift again to my debian box
[05:37] <BlueEagle> elios: and where is the hostname specified?
[05:37] <szf> Elios - is tomato in the hosts file>
[05:37] <Elios> in setup
[05:37] <Elios> do i need to re-do it?
[05:37] <wheels3572> Hey BlueEagle What is JoshYme1 doing opening up the universal Repository?
[05:37] <BlueEagle> elios: Well noone but the server knows about its own hostname unless you tell them about it.
[05:37] <Elios> oh GOO QUESTION!
[05:37] <Elios> good*
[05:37] <Megaqwerty> I'm installing KDE on Ubuntu and it is asking me what I want for my Postfix configuration...What is that?
[05:38] <BlueEagle> wheels3572: Just getting a sources.list that works. Apperantly his main is out of order.
[05:38] <wheels3572> BlueEagle, Ahhhh could the us repos be down?
[05:38] <BlueEagle> wheels3572: Well he is able to update w/o errors
[05:39] <lmosher> what's the command to download the dependencies to build a package?
[05:39] <BlueEagle> !build_essential
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about build_essential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <BlueEagle> !build_essentials
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about build_essentials - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <BlueEagle> bahh
[05:39] <BlueEagle> !build-essential
[05:39] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:39] <Elios> 127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost
[05:39] <Elios> 192.168.1.10    tomato
[05:39] <Elios> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[05:39] <Elios> ::1     ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[05:39] <Elios> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[05:39] <Elios> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[05:39] <Elios> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[05:39] <BlueEagle> elios: !paste
[05:39] <Elios> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[05:39] <Elios> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
[05:39] <lmosher> it's build-essential I believe. but I'm looking for the apt ocmmand to install the deps
[05:39] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell elios about paste
[05:39] <Elios> sorry
[05:39] <Elios> didnt know
[05:39] <Elios> ^^;;
[05:39] <BlueEagle> lmosher: dpgk -i
[05:39] <Elios> !past
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <lmosher> BlueEagle, deps not debs. dependencies.
[05:40] <BlueEagle> elios: that's because you didn't read the topic. :)
[05:40] <Elios> lol sorry
[05:40] <Elios> ^^;;
[05:40] <lmosher> BlueEagle, I need to install a patch to something on apt. I downloaded the source but I'm missing some things. I konw thre's an apt command to install the dependencies for a source package
[05:40] <Elios> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20939
[05:40] <Elios> ok
[05:41] <Elios> thats what i get in the etc/hosts
[05:41] <BlueEagle> lmosher: Oh, well then you know more than I do. :)
[05:41] <BlueEagle> elios: is that on the server or the client you attempt to connect from?
[05:41] <wind> what do i need to download to get apple movie files to play? .mov files
[05:41] <ubuntu> hi guys
[05:41] <lmosher> BlueEagle, heh I remebered it finally. it's apt-get build-dep
[05:41] <Elios> thats what i get with cat /etc/hosts
[05:41] <Dev05> wind, Use MPlayer.
[05:41] <ubuntu> wind:  u need quicktime
[05:41] <Elios> via ssh
[05:41] <wind> i have totem
[05:42] <Dev05> !MPlayer @ wind
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about MPlayer @ wind - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <ubuntu> wind: totem will play if u have quicktime lib. installed
[05:42] <BlueEagle> elios: is that etc/hosts file on your server or on the client that you are attempting to connect form?
[05:42] <Elios> oh
[05:42] <Elios> thats the server
[05:42] <Elios> sorry
[05:42] <Elios> didnt make that clear
[05:42] <BlueEagle> elios: and is the error on the client or on the server side?
[05:42] <Elios> when i try and use putty to ssh in
[05:42] <Jbirk> Where can I get the ubuntu linux source code for the kernel?
[05:42] <Elios> i cant just use the host name ie. 'tomato'
[05:43] <Elios> but its ip 192.168.1.10 works
[05:43] <BlueEagle> elios: that is because the client doesn't know about tomato.
[05:43] <Elios> ok
[05:43] <JoshYme1> BlueEagle, ok.. that works.. now for my vnc problem.. i'm tryign to connect to my sisters computer and it says VNC server supports protocol 3.3 - vnc connection failed - no configured security tyep is supported by 3.3 viewer.. what can i do about that?
[05:43] <Elios> soo
[05:43] <Elios> i need to put that in my wintels etc/host then?
[05:43] <BlueEagle> elios: in windows you might want to have a look in c:\windows\system\drivers\etc\lmhosts or where they put that file.
[05:43] <szf> elios-BlueEagle is right, putty on windows cant resolve tomato as a hostname
[05:43] <Elios> heh
[05:44] <BlueEagle> elios: alternately you can run a domain name server (for small networks that's a waste)
[05:44] <Elios> lame
[05:44] <Elios> ah
[05:44] <szf> elios: unless you edit c:
[05:44] <Elios> well
[05:44] <BlueEagle> elios: a 3rd option is to add a routing path for tomato in your DSL router if you've got one.
[05:44] <ubuntu> edit c:?
[05:44] <Elios> whats most elagent way to do this?
[05:44] <szf> windows\hosts {?}
[05:45] <BlueEagle> elios: That depends on how big your network is.
[05:45] <ubuntu> szf:  how do u edit c?
[05:45] <Elios> well
[05:45] <Elios> i plan on hosting lanpartys
[05:45] <ResonantWave> I am trying to set up a PS2 keyboard to work on my laptop using a PS2 to USB converter. It doesn't appear to be recognizing the hardware. Any ideas?
[05:45] <Elios> so normal 4-5 clients
[05:45] <Elios> and atime 20+
[05:45] <szf> ubuntu: sorry, bad return key on my side - repsonde to Elios
[05:45] <Elios> at times*
[05:45] <wind> i installed the libquicktime0
[05:45] <wind> and it still doen't work
[05:45] <BlueEagle> elios: Which modem have you got?
[05:45] <agamotto> ResonantWave: Make sure that 'legacy' usb devices are activated in your BIOS
[05:46] <Elios> linksys cablemodem
[05:46] <ResonantWave> agamotto: Done and done.
[05:46] <agamotto> ResonantWave:  Hrm... strange
[05:46] <BlueEagle> elios: Has that modem got any router capabillities? (ie. which model?)
[05:46] <Elios> BEFCMU10 ver. 4
[05:46] <Elios> router is a linksys WRT54G
[05:46] <djcapch> hola
[05:46] <JoshYme1> BlueEagle,  any ideas??
[05:46] <Elios> the craptasic VxWorks one
[05:46] <djcapch> alguien abla espaol
[05:46] <syntaxx> i wonder whats wrong in tvtime sound in debian it works fine but when i shift to ubuntu my sound not working properly anyone who can help me?
[05:46] <chops-> anyone know how to give an account admin access via the recovery console ?
[05:47] <ubuntu> chops-:  winblows?
[05:47] <Kr0ntab> so does anyone know off the top of their head if there's a way to adjust flash plugin settings?  i.e. cache size, audio settings, etc.  I'm sure others have noticed delay in audio by a second or so when viewin flash videos.
[05:47] <Machtyn> Question:  what file stores the desktop resolution and refresh rate?  (I've got my pc connected to the tv, it it doesn't like what Ubuntu's defaults are)
[05:47] <chops-> nah in the ubuntu recovery prompt
[05:47] <ubuntu> chops-: become su?
[05:47] <chops-> i added a user it works but i need to give it admin access
[05:47] <sethk> chops-, there is nothing different there than any other place
[05:48] <BlueEagle> joshyme1: I've never used VNC so please ask the channel. :)
[05:48] <sethk> chops-, you can add the user to group root
[05:48] <ubuntu> chops-:  become a su
[05:48] <chops-> sethk and whats the command for that ?
[05:48] <ResonantWave> Machtyn: /etc/X11/xorg.conf  [I believe] 
[05:49] <ubuntu> chops-: usermod -g root username
[05:49] <Elios> ok i edited my windows hosts file
[05:50] <Elios> but is there a better way with out editing other PCs hosts file?
[05:50] <BlueEagle> elios: Well apperantly your modem doesn't do any routing so you may want to concider running a name server. However it would be very much easier to specify a static ip that is simple to remember.
[05:50] <Elios> well
[05:50] <Elios> what about my router >.>
[05:50] <Elios> WRT54G
[05:50] <BlueEagle> elios: not that I know why you would need people on a lan party able to easily connect to your server.
[05:50] <Elios> well
[05:50] <Elios> my room mates
[05:50] <BlueEagle> elios: If you've got a router then you can set up tomato together with the ip and people should be able to resolv it.
[05:50] <Elios> if thay want to use the server to compile code
[05:51] <Elios> ok
[05:51] <BlueEagle> elios: refer to the router documentation on how to set up such a static route.
[05:51] <Machtyn> ResonantWave: that's where you setup what the card can handle, but I thought to setup the screen resolution was handled on a per-user basis and was one one of the /home/user/.* files.
[05:51] <wefwef> hey i just tried to install ubuntu 6.06, but after it booted from cd, and i click in the menue "start or install ubuntu" i get an error it says "cd boot error....
[05:52] <Elios> soo like route name would be the host name
[05:52] <Elios> ?
[05:52] <BlueEagle> wefwef: have you tried to check the integrity of the cd?
[05:52] <szf> Elios-you said that your WRT is a Vx Works one - does that count out you "upgrading" to OpenWRT/HyperWRT?
[05:52] <wefwef> u mean in the boot menu ?
[05:52] <wefwef> the cd check ?
[05:52] <billytwowilly>  so I'm looking for an mp3 player that is small and has good bookmarking functionality. any recommendations?
[05:52] <ubuntu> billytwowilly:  amarok
[05:52] <szf> Elios-forgive me if this is off-topic...
[05:52] <BlueEagle> wefwef: yes.
[05:52] <ResonantWave> Machtyn: I don't know about that, sorry.
[05:52] <wefwef> it does the same cd boot error thing
[05:53] <billytwowilly> lol.
[05:53] <Elios> szf yes sadly
[05:53] <Elios> well i can...
[05:53] <lmosher> any 64-bit users here with xgl?
[05:53] <ResonantWave> Machtyn: I don't see a file like that, but I don't know.
[05:53] <billytwowilly> so I'm looking for a portable mp3 player that is small and has good bookmarking functionality. any recommendations?
[05:53] <Elios> but its a pita to use the micro of wrt-dd
[05:53] <BlueEagle> wefwef: o'rly? Then it does sound like a b0rked image or cd. How old is your cd-rom drive?
[05:53] <ubuntu> sorry bad joke ;))
[05:53] <Elios> and i realy dont want to brick szf
[05:53] <wefwef> its very new its a dvd buner combo
[05:53] <Elios> so yea
[05:54] <wefwef> BlueEagle: about 8 months old
[05:54] <billytwowilly> just return it and buy a wrt54gl...
[05:54] <BlueEagle> wefwef: Then it is probably a bad image download or a bad burn.
[05:54] <Elios> lol
[05:54] <ubuntu> wefwef:  u downloaded the iso?
[05:54] <Elios> to late
[05:54] <Elios> when this one dies(and it will) ill get the GL
[05:54] <Elios> lol
[05:54] <brush01uk> Greetings everyone, have a good day
[05:55] <billytwowilly> pour soda on it. That's how I killed my old wrt...
[05:55] <wefwef> it says linuxloader error
[05:55] <BlueEagle> brush01uk: Thank you.
[05:55] <Elios> actuly when this one dies
[05:55] <ubuntu> wefwef: if u did, did u perform a md5sum on it?
[05:55] <Elios> im throwing another nic in nix box >.>
[05:55] <Elios> lol
[05:55] <ubuntu> Elios: whats wrong?
[05:55] <BlueEagle> wefwef: Have you still got the .iso file?
[05:55] <wefwef> ubuntu: how i perform the md5 sum ?
[05:56] <Elios> ok so the best way is to set a static route for the host?
[05:56] <Elios> gahh
[05:56] <Elios> linksys is less then helpfull with that
[05:56] <Elios> lol
[05:56] <ubuntu> wefwef:  well when u download a .iso file it has md5sum.txt file
[05:56] <ubuntu> right?
[05:56] <BlueEagle> elios: the linksys (modem) will neven know or care. :)
[05:56] <ubuntu> u run the command md5sum filename.iso from konsole
[05:56] <wefwef> ubuntu: yes i downlaoded an the x86 desktop iso
[05:56] <chops-> looks like i have to reinstall
[05:56] <wefwef> and burned with nero
[05:56] <Elios> im talking the router
[05:57] <ubuntu> match it to the .txt file
[05:57] <chops-> forgetting the username for default admin was not good
[05:57] <ubuntu> chops-:  defualt name is root
[05:57] <wefwef> um i deleted the iso after burned i will redownload
[05:57] <Elios> when this linksys router dies im just going to make this nix box do every thing lol
[05:57] <Elios> but ill live with the edited host for now
[05:57] <Elios> back to following this howto
[05:57] <ubuntu> wefwef:  ok, good luck
[05:58] <Elios> still need a way to log in as su
[05:58] <Elios> so i dont have sudo every comand
[05:58] <Elios> >.>
[05:58] <BlueEagle> wefwef: http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/6.06/MD5SUMS is a list of md5 sums for the various CD images. Get md5sum.exe (from http://www.etree.org/md5com.html ) and run md5sum.exe ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso (or the image you've got)
[05:58] <Elios> atlest till im done setting every thing up
[05:58] <BlueEagle> wefwef: then it's just a matter of comparing the numbers.
[05:58] <Gog123> macromedia flash is failing on install
[05:58] <Gog123> how do i fix this?
[05:59] <chops-> nah the root user name is not working with the password i setup when install ubuntu
[05:59] <BlueEagle> wefwef: if they do not match then you need to d/l the .iso again. If they do match then you'll need to burn the .iso again.
[05:59] <ubuntu> chops-: do this man
[05:59] <BlueEagle> wefwef: if after that all fails then something is seriously amiss. :)
[05:59] <Elios> same here what chops- said
[05:59] <ubuntu> chops-:  sudo passwd root
[05:59] <ubuntu> now make new root password
[05:59] <ubuntu> and use that to use root account
[05:59] <Elios> ubuntu: i do that and it asks for a password
[06:00] <ubuntu> Elios: i'm talking to chops
[06:00] <Elios> nm
[06:00] <Elios> lol
[06:00] <tonyr1988> I'm throwing Ubuntu on an old comp. for my little cousins. Security is not an issue at all (no Internet or foreign files, ever). I'd like to set up two users, so they can have their own menus, wallpapers, etc. Any way to bypass the passwords? Should I put a * or ! or something else in place of the password in the shadow file?
[06:00] <BlueEagle> wefwef: ofcourse the md5sum.exe needs to be in the same directory as the .iso or you'll need to specify the entire path to the .iso file.
[06:00] <Elios> user error im dumb XD
[06:00] <Elios> lol
[06:00] <ubuntu> Elios:  lol ur funny
[06:00] <Elios> lol
[06:00] <Elios> thanks
[06:00] <ubuntu> cheer ~O)
[06:01] <Elios> well the sad part is
[06:01] <ubuntu> whats wrong though
[06:01] <ubuntu> what r u tryin to do?
[06:01] <Elios> i have my UNIX admin cert
[06:01] <Elios> but havent used any nix os in 5 years
[06:01] <ubuntu> Elios:  wow thats awesome some
[06:01] <Elios> so im realy realy rusty
[06:01] <sethk> Elios, that and a dollar gets you on the subway
[06:01] <ubuntu> aah out of touch syndrome
[06:01] <Elios> its slowly coming back
[06:02] <BlueEagle> tonyr1988: create a user with any passwordd and than go edit /etc/passwd and delete the x in the line of the username and you will no longer be required to type password for that user.
[06:02] <ubuntu> Elios:  u will figure it out, u just need some time man , relax :)
[06:02] <ubuntu> i'm a newbie here, i joined forum to learn linux :)
[06:02] <BlueEagle> tonyr1988: (extracted and modified from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17520 which was one of the first hits when googling ubuntu blank password)
[06:03] <ubuntu> and dang this OS is good
[06:03] <agamotto> ubuntu:  It can be, once you get used to it
[06:03] <Elios> oh
[06:03] <tonyr1988> BlueEagle: Oops....stupid me - I usually just search the Ubuntu forums for questions about it. I'm retarded....
[06:03] <ubuntu> agamotto:  im counting on it
[06:03] <agamotto> The learning curve is a bit steep, but it is worth it
[06:03] <Elios> putty is bitching about the rsa key
[06:03] <Elios> there away to make it happy?
[06:03] <ubuntu> i wana learn it , hate the site of billy microshits
[06:03] <chops-> it tells me system admin is not allowed to login from the gui screen lol
[06:03] <BlueEagle> tonyr1988: I don't see anyone arguing that. :p hehe
[06:04] <ubuntu> chops-: yes it is disbale
[06:04] <tonyr1988> BlueEagle: haha - ouch
[06:04] <ubuntu> u have to login as normal user and enable it chops
[06:04] <BlueEagle> ;)
[06:04] <ubuntu> ok?
[06:04] <szf> Elios: how did you generate the keys?
[06:04] <chops-> ok i am logging in as a user i made
[06:04] <Elios> not off hand
[06:04] <Elios> there a whoto out there?
[06:04] <Elios> howto*
[06:04] <BlueEagle> chops-: Pretty please explain to the class why you want to have root log in to X. I for one would love to hear it.
[06:05] <ubuntu> BlueEagle:  heh
[06:05] <chops-> i want admin access
[06:05] <Elios> O.o
[06:05] <Elios> in X
[06:05] <agamotto> Remote logins would be my guess
[06:05] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell chops- about sudo
[06:05] <Elios> why?
[06:05] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell chops- about gksudo
[06:06] <wefwef> what is the diffrence with the alternate install cd
[06:06] <ubuntu> wefwef:  alternate cd give text based installtion too
[06:06] <tonyr1988> Alternative install CD isn't a liveCD
[06:06] <BlueEagle> chops-: using sudo (and gksudo) will give you all the access you'll ever need.
[06:06] <agamotto> server (no gfx) install, some other widgets
[06:06] <tonyr1988> Good for systems with low memory
[06:06] <wefwef> ok
[06:06] <chops-> when i installed it asked me to set a password and also said a username what i should use for the first time and thats what i forgot
[06:06] <Flannel> wefwef: the Desktop ISO is a liveCD, and a graphical install.  Alternate gives a textbase, and more options
[06:06] <HellDragon> Because of Wene Man, Kurt got a court citation for being out past midnight.
[06:07] <ubuntu> Flannel:  hey dood :)
[06:07] <BlueEagle> chops-: Then you'll need to log in with single-user mode and reset the password for that user.
[06:07] <sethk> chops-, better to fix that in single user mode
[06:07] <sethk> chops-, you forgot the username, or the password?
[06:08] <chops-> i know the password but the user name i dont
[06:08] <sethk> chops-, oem, probably
[06:08] <BlueEagle> chops-: all the users are listed in /etc/passwd
[06:08] <h3h_timo> could someone please help me figure out why my xgl/compiz session is all messed up??
[06:08] <BlueEagle> sethk: good call.
[06:08] <tonyr1988> h3h_timo: What's your XGL/Compiz doing? Anything?
[06:08] <chops-> it was oem lol :)
[06:09] <chops-> thanks seth
[06:09] <h3h_timo> tonyr1988, well, right now, i am running in my xgl session, and its all supposed to be working, except i cant move windows, ancd there is not title bar at the top
[06:10] <h3h_timo> tonyr1988, and i cant switch between workspaces, or anything
[06:10] <tonyr1988> h3h_timo: Sorry....I've had some problems with my XGL / Compiz, and I was hoping maybe you had the same one I've had before....never had that happen to me.
[06:10] <h3h_timo> alright, i dunno whats goin on.. ill try to fix it
[06:10] <ubuntu> sethk:  hello
[06:10] <BlueEagle> h3h_timo: please also ask in #ubuntu-xgl which is the support channel for xgl/compiz on ubuntu.
[06:10] <ubuntu> BlueEagle: hi
[06:10] <BlueEagle> Hello ubuntu.
[06:10] <tonyr1988> h3h_timo: Basic question....do you have the right drivers for your card?
[06:10] <kgeffert> h3h_timo, are you saying that the window decorations are missing?  maximize, minimize close that kind of thing?
[06:12] <JonathanKent> I want to install the flash in my firefox
[06:12] <Tsukino> does anyone know of any sites that do proxy links? as in not using a proxy IP with a tunnel program, but being able to put a link into a site and having it go through that site instead
[06:12] <kgeffert> h3h_timo, are you saying that the window decorations are missing?  maximize, minimize close that kind of thing?
[06:12] <BlueEagle> kgeffert: I guess he's moved to the right channel. Se also !repeat
[06:13] <Elios> ok question i have friend thats going to help with this
[06:13] <ubuntu> JonathanKent:  synaptic has flash i think for browser
[06:13] <ubuntu> JonathanKent: plz chk
[06:13] <Flannel> !flash
[06:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:13] <Elios> is there a way we can both be loged in to box and he can see what i type?
[06:13] <Gog123> ubuntu is very buggy
[06:13] <sethk> Elios, screen can do that
[06:13] <Elios> via ssh?
[06:13] <sethk> Elios, yes
[06:13] <BlueEagle> elios: screen and screen -x
[06:14] <Elios> cool
[06:14] <Elios> ok
[06:14] <BlueEagle> elios: that's like multi-player terminal
[06:15] <BlueEagle> elios: One of you start a screen in a terminal with for example screen /bin/bash the other connects to the same screen with screen -x
[06:15] <BlueEagle> elios: if one of you wants to leave the screen w/o logging out the other use CTRL+A+D
[06:16] <ubuntu> ubotu:  do u have any links for screen HOWTO?
[06:16] <Frankenstein> night
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about do u have any links for screen HOWTO? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: man screen
[06:17] <ubuntu> yes i know that BlueEagle
[06:17] <ubuntu> but i want in more details
[06:17] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: What would be more detailed than the manual? o.O
[06:18] <crimsun> (the source.)
[06:18] <ubuntu> i guess
[06:18] <sethk> screen is really easy to use
[06:19] <sethk> you just start a screen session, then other people connect, do screen -ls to see your session, then screen -x to join it
[06:19] <ubuntu> sethk:  how they connect?
[06:19] <Thordasin> Hi all, anyone here use mythtv?
[06:19] <ubuntu> sethk:  sorry i'm still a newbie
[06:19] <sethk> ubuntu, I use ssh
[06:19] <sethk> ubuntu, if you have ssh working, just use it.
[06:19] <ubuntu> ok ssh to the machine
[06:20] <ubuntu> kool
[06:20] <sethk> right
[06:20] <sethk> then screen -ls
[06:20] <ubuntu> k
[06:20] <sethk> it will list session names.  say one is 1234.abc
[06:20] <ubuntu> k
[06:20] <sethk> you would do    screen -x 1234.abc
[06:20] <BlueEagle> thordasin: Do you want to know if anyone here uses it or are you having trouble using it yourself? If the latter it would help if you asked a question relating to your problem with mythtv.
[06:20] <ubuntu> sethk:  awesome
[06:20] <sethk> then as someone already said,  control-d + a to detach
[06:20] <ubuntu> sethk:  ok ,kool
[06:20] <ubuntu> sethk:  ty so much
[06:21] <Thordasin> its sort of complicated i have a haupage 150 and it does not seem to work
[06:21] <ubuntu> really appreciate it
[06:21] <sethk> np.  that's control-a followed by d, NOT control-a control-d
[06:21] <BlueEagle> thordasin: What does lspci list the device as?
[06:21] <ubuntu> ok
[06:21] <Thordasin> I have taken many steps and i'm stuck
[06:21] <BlueEagle> thordasin: is this a PCI device or a USB device btw?
[06:22] <Thordasin> ots a pci device and i've finally got the kernel recognizing it but when i try to use scan it says there is no card
[06:22] <warlock__> The "motd" when logging in into SSH, where can I find that file ?
[06:22] <BlueEagle> thordasin: and what does lspci list the device as?
[06:22] <Gog123> too many bugs in ubuntu
[06:22] <Gog123> :(
[06:22] <J-_> what can i use to encode wma's to mp3's?
[06:23] <Thordasin> the kernel did not pick it up but i upgrade the ivtv to 4.6 and now it shows all the info on the card let me look
[06:23] <BlueEagle> thordasin: Please. Open a terminal and type lspci then put the one line that pertains to your tv card in here so I know exactly which device we are talking about.
[06:24] <Thordasin> i'll try :) i'mm blind and cutting from secure crt is a big problem for me :)
[06:24] <blind> <_<
[06:24] <BlueEagle> thordasin: I see.
[06:25] <Elios> hmmm
[06:25] <ubuntu> Thordasin:  dang bro, u type really fast
[06:25] <Elios> this is odd...
[06:25] <Elios> samba wont install
[06:25] <ubuntu> Thordasin: hats off bro :)
[06:25] <BlueEagle> thordasin: so you'll be using the tv-card with aalib and a braille terminal then? (joke)
[06:25] <warlock__> The "motd" when logging in into SSH, where can I find that file ?
[06:25] <Thordasin> no i only use tts i have orca working on ubuntu now
[06:25] <ruxpin>  /etc/motd
[06:25] <BlueEagle> warlock__: /etc/motd
[06:26] <warlock__> thanks
[06:26] <Thordasin> i found the line its long but says its a mepeg 2 de3coder let me see how i can get the whole line over here
[06:26] <Elios> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20942
[06:26] <Elios> ok
[06:26] <Elios> what am i missing
[06:26] <warlock__> BlueEagle, is there a way to change root password through the passwd file?
[06:27] <ubuntu> wind: wb
[06:27] <BlueEagle> warlock__: not that I know of.
[06:27] <Thordasin> cx23416 is the chip set i think
[06:27] <warlock__> darn
[06:27] <BlueEagle> warlock__: did you read !sudo
[06:27] <BlueEagle> !sudo
[06:27] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:27] <Ademan> does wine have an official channel?
[06:28] <Ademan> (or even an unofficial one)
[06:28] <Ademan> just a support channel really
[06:28] <PurpleTet> !teamspeak
[06:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about teamspeak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:28] <J-_> what can i use to encode wma's to mp3's?
[06:28] <warlock__> where is proftpd's userlist located in then BlueEagle ? :/
[06:28] <J-_> !wma
[06:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:28] <Ademan> J-_: just use ogg :-)
[06:28] <Elios> ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20942 samba dosnt like me
[06:29] <ubuntu> warlock__: i think it is somewhere /usr/local/proftpd
[06:29] <trygg> How do i unable gdm?
[06:29] <J-_> i have some wma's, need to convert to mp3's..
[06:29] <warlock__> not there ubuntu
[06:29] <PurpleTet> is there an apt for teamspeak?
[06:29] <Crell42> Greetings.  With a Dapper Live/Install CD, is there a way to use the command line installer?
[06:29] <ubuntu> warlock__:  try whereis proftpd
[06:29] <BlueEagle> thordasin: I am sorry, but I was unable to find any good solutions to your problem. :/
[06:30] <Crell42> The GUI installer keeps locking up for me.
[06:30] <warlock__> proftpd: /usr/sbin/proftpd /etc/proftpd.conf /usr/share/man/man8/proftpd.8.gz
[06:30] <agamotto> I am hoping to find an answer to a question that is mostly off-topic, but here goes:
[06:30] <agamotto> Anyone here been able to install a Knoppmyth setup?
[06:30] <Thordasin> 0000:00:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416)
[06:30] <Thordasin> it think thats the line
[06:30] <BlueEagle> warlock__: you probably don't want to allow root to log in via ftp. (you might think you do but odds are you really don't)
[06:31] <warlock__> no no , not that uh..
[06:31] <BlueEagle> purpletet: teamspeak doesn't come as a .deb
[06:31] <ubuntu> warlock__: chk /etc folder
[06:31] <stray77> stray@xubuntu:/$ sudo apt-cache search winbind
[06:31] <stray77> samba - a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix
[06:31] <stray77> winbind - service to resolve user and group information from Windows NT servers
[06:31] <BlueEagle> purpletet: get it from goteamspeak.com (it's a precompiled binary)
[06:32] <Thordasin> was that the right line blue eagle?
[06:32] <Thordasin> I had to grep the line to a file and ftp to my windows machine before i could cut it :)
[06:32] <BlueEagle> thordasin: Hmm.. That is not a tv card that I am familiar with. Let me check. :)
[06:32] <ubuntu> Thordasin:  ur good :)
[06:32] <Thordasin> i'll look again mabye i got the wrong line
[06:33] <gdb> teamspeak is :-(
[06:33] <gdb> ventrilo is > teamspeak
[06:34] <gdb> and ventrilo can use a completely open voice protocol, teamspeak can't!
[06:34] <PurpleTet> thx BlueEagle
[06:35] <BlueEagle> purpletet: np.
[06:35] <aSt3raL> what do i need to get started with 3d programming on ubuntu?
[06:35] <BlueEagle> purpletet: what did I help you with again? o.O
[06:35] <Elios> soo any one know why winbind wont build?
[06:35] <stray77> uncomment some repositories in your sources.list
[06:35] <Elios> ok
[06:36] <snoops> aSt3raL knowledge in c++ and opengl :)
[06:36] <stray77> then sudo apt-get update
[06:36] <aSt3raL> ok and then?
[06:36] <snoops> then being a few years down the track?
[06:36] <PurpleTet> teamspeak BlueEagle
[06:36] <aSt3raL> any good online books?
[06:36] <BlueEagle> purpletet: ahh. np. :)
[06:37] <PurpleTet> ill prob need more help wit installing it...
[06:37] <fdsd> hey guys, I want to modify the ubuntu livecd, I want to change the user it creates from ubuntu to something else, how would I go about doing that?
[06:37] <BlueEagle> purpletet: Be aware that there has been some connection issues on the default port so it might be a good idea to set up a 2nd server using the web configuration interface. I run my 2nd on port 8777
[06:37] <fdsd> iv already hacked the livecd, and everything works except that
[06:38] <Crell42> No one knows how to install Dapper from CLI instead of GUI?
[06:38] <PurpleTet> i just need the client
[06:38] <PurpleTet> BlueEagle: i just need the client atm
[06:38] <ubuntu> Crell42: syre
[06:38] <PurpleTet> not the server
[06:38] <ubuntu> sure*
[06:38] <stray77> fdsd, probably the oem install from the alternate install cd would let you do that sort of thing.
[06:39] <Thordasin> i think you can only install ubuntu from text with the 3rd iso image not the desktop or server bu the other one
[06:39] <ubuntu> Crell42:  but u need ubuntu-alternate.iso
[06:39] <BlueEagle> purpletet: ahh. There has also been some issues with teamspeak and hardware mixing in linux. I think I read something about a solution to that in the faq.
[06:39] <fdsd> stray77, iv already hacked the desktop livecd
[06:40] <ubuntu> fdsd: there is 1 way u can do it
[06:40] <BlueEagle> thordasin: so please. What happens when you attempt to scan for channels+
[06:40] <BlueEagle> ?
[06:40] <ubuntu> but long way '
[06:40] <ubuntu> lol
[06:40] <FearMoth> I'm trying to install Kubuntu Dapper on my iMac g3, and when I boot from the cd with "live" or "liveppc" it runs through loading up with the kubuntu logo, and then after a while it stops with "restarting system logger       [fail] 
[06:40] <fdsd> ubuntu, how is that?
[06:40] <FearMoth> or something along those lines and freezes.. anyone know why it does this?
[06:40] <fdsd> ubuntu, thats cool, I really really need to do it
[06:40] <Elios> OK
[06:40] <Thordasin> one sec blue eagle i'm trying to get you the six lines from dmesg that describe the card
[06:40] <Crell42> ubuntu: Lovely.
[06:40] <Elios> i think i did somthing bad
[06:40] <ubuntu> fdsd: install the system
[06:40] <Elios> i forgot to comment the cd line in the sources file
[06:41] <fdsd> ubuntu, iv extracted the data from the squashfs, and chrooted in, and I know how to make the iso
[06:41] <ubuntu> modify changes / account and other thing u want ok
[06:41] <ubuntu> ?
[06:41] <J-_> is there any software that i can convert wma's to mp3's?
[06:41] <Elios> and its asking for the CD
[06:41] <Elios> >.>
[06:41] <Crell42> How is that different from the ubuntu server install CD?
[06:41] <snoops> aSt3raL specifically what are you wanting to do?
[06:41] <Elios> how do i back out
[06:41] <Crell42> (Which I tried, b ut that kernel doesn't have wifi)
[06:41] <ubuntu> fdsd: there is a tool called make live use that to make ur own live cd
[06:41] <BlueEagle> thordasin: please do not paste them directly in the channel. Go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and paste them there if possible.
[06:41] <debuntu> fdsd, i guess you'll have to look for the script that creates the user
[06:41] <fdsd> ubuntu, to late, Iv already made the filesystem
[06:41] <aSt3raL> snoops: just getting started.. wanted to learn some basics
[06:41] <fdsd> debuntu, yeah Im tring to find it
[06:42] <fdsd> debuntu, when it boots it says "Creating Live CD User". which it calls ubuntu
[06:42] <fdsd> debuntu, im sure it would be simple to modify to call it what I want
[06:42] <debuntu> fdsd, yeah, it has to be a script calling useradd
[06:42] <snoops> aSt3raL done any programming before?
[06:42] <fdsd> debuntu, ill grep for it
[06:42] <debuntu> fdsd, yeah, all i can think of .. good luck ;)
[06:43] <J-_> is there any software that i can convert wma's to mp3's?
[06:43] <Thordasin> blue eagle this is about 10 lines is that ok to paste here?
[06:43] <RamiKassab> hey guys is it possible to setup an extended desktop in ubuntu on a laptop?
[06:43] <BlueEagle> thordasin: no
[06:43] <debuntu> Thordasin, no
[06:43] <BlueEagle> thordasin: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ if at all possible
[06:43] <snoops> Thordasin http://pastebin.ca
[06:43] <BlueEagle> thordasin: or join the channel #flood and paste it there
[06:44] <RamiKassab> I have a Dell 700m and am running 6.06 and have a second monitor connected now
[06:44] <debuntu> !pastebin
[06:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:44] <Crell42> ubuntu: Where can I get this ubuntu-alternate.iso?
[06:44] <RamiKassab> how do I get the desktop to extend to it?
[06:44] <J-_> !wma
[06:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:44] <RamiKassab> if at all possible
[06:44] <Thordasin> the #flood is much easier
[06:44] <fdsd> debuntu, what do you think the best grep command would be?
[06:44] <fdsd> debuntu, grep -r useradd *  im in the etc directory
[06:44] <Thordasin> are you in #flood blue eagle?
[06:44] <BlueEagle> thordasin: yes
[06:44] <snoops> aSt3raL is it eventual 3d game design you want or someting else?
[06:45] <PurpleTet> wwooo BlueEagle the teamspeak install came wit a gui install thing :|
[06:45] <debuntu> fdsd, yeah, might as well do the whole iso if you don't find it
[06:45] <PurpleTet> thats like the first time for me
[06:45] <aSt3raL> snoops: its just academic.. i want something to mess around with
[06:45] <stray77> aSt3raL, do you have maya?
[06:45] <aSt3raL> what is maya?
[06:45] <fdsd> debuntu, ok
[06:46] <J-_> is there any software that i can convert wma's to mp3's?
[06:46] <debuntu> big split haha
[06:46] <RamiKassab> guys, please, is it possible to extend a desktop to a second monitor in Ubuntu? If so, how?
[06:46] <aSt3raL> well im out
[06:47] <Thordasin> blue eagle what was the scan you wanted me to try?
[06:47] <fdsd> debuntu, how do you search for two things at once with grep?
[06:47] <msoul> hi, I did sudo apt-get install fluxbox and did put /usr/local/bin/fluxbox in ~/.xsession
[06:47] <BlueEagle> thordasin: No. I was thinking about what happens when you scan for frequencies with mythtv
[06:47] <msoul> but it seems I can't start fluxbox for somereason
[06:47] <PurpleTet> whats ln -s ?
[06:47] <msoul> any idea?
[06:47] <fdsd> PurpleTet, symlink
[06:47] <ubuntu> PurpleTet: it is link
[06:48] <PurpleTet> what does it do?
[06:48] <debuntu> fdsd, you know regular expressions?
[06:48] <fdsd> debuntu, not really
[06:48] <debuntu> fdsd, heh, that's how
[06:48] <Edwar1> Ati wont work.. read 3 howtos and cant get the fglrxinfo
[06:48] <Edwar1>  to go to ati alwasy shows Mesa
[06:48] <ubuntu> PurpleTet: it is used to make shortcuts /links
[06:48] <PurpleTet> ohk
[06:49] <Edwar1> Anyone know anything about ati drivers?
[06:49] <dr_willis> !ati
[06:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:49] <dr_willis> I know theres a wiki page on them,. :P
[06:50] <Edwar1> I ran though both the wiki and the ati wiki on them
[06:50] <jrattner1> QUESTION: Are there any newer gnome-pilot packages, or a better way to sync my palm treo and evolution
[06:50] <jrattner1> ?
[06:50] <Edwar1> both failed.
[06:50] <szf> PurpleTet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolic_link
[06:50] <Thordasin> sorry blue eagle i'm getting my windows confused i just pasted in info aobut this problem to a girl i'm talking to on yahoo :)
[06:50] <dr_willis> Edwar1,  they worked for me..  but you are being bague as to what failed.
[06:50] <BlueEagle> thordasin: Hehe. Give her my regards. :)
[06:50] <Edwar1> Sorry
[06:50] <gary[ubuntu] > !dvd
[06:50] <msoul> and idea on how can I start fluxbox?
[06:50] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:50] <debuntu> fdsd, what are you searching for now, i'll tell you
[06:51] <ubuntu> msoul:  hi
[06:51] <kjm> msoul : man xinit
[06:51] <farous> msoul: apt-get install fluxbox
[06:51] <ubuntu> msoul: during login , where u enter ur name /password
[06:51] <ubuntu> msoul:  choose session as fluxbox
[06:51] <dr_willis> msoul,  it should have an entryin the GDM manager, or KDM manager.. or boot to console and edit the .xinitrc and use startx
[06:51] <fdsd> debuntu, i want to search /etc for ubuntu and useradd
[06:51] <msoul> farous: I did that and I did put /usr/local/bin/fluxbox in ~/.xsession
[06:51] <msoul> ubuntu oh, lemme try
[06:51] <msoul> Brb
[06:51] <farous> msoul: it should not be in local/bin how did you install
[06:51] <PurpleTet> ok, ive just followed this how-to, with no luck http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-16361.html
[06:52] <kjm> anyone want a beer?  I'm heading to the fridge.
[06:52] <farous> msoul: anyway it should have desktop entry under /usr/share/xsessions/
[06:52] <PurpleTet> me
[06:52] <msoul> farous: I did sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[06:52] <UKMatt> kjm, sure
[06:52] <ubuntu> kjm: coke?
[06:52] <fildo> hey have u guys ever got a " segmentation error " while trying to ssh ?
[06:52] <msoul> lemme try one second
[06:52] <phargle> ew
[06:52] <farous> msoul: if it does not have entry there create one for it
[06:52] <Thordasin> ok blue eagle on the community site there is a web page on setting up ubuntu and mythtv
[06:52] <kjm> ubuntu : sorry, there's no room in my fridge for coke.
[06:52] <ubuntu> kjm:  heh
[06:52] <Thordasin> I used that it has insturctions for doing command line things to setup.
[06:52] <ubuntu> kjm:  np dude
[06:53] <farous> !info fluxbox
[06:53] <Edwar1> ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340 M/350M  is the card in my laptop  mostly trying to get this to work so i can finish a 3d model i was doing
[06:53] <ubotu> fluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.14-2 (dapper), package size 720 kB, installed size 2288 kB
[06:53] <pansapiens> msoul: try typing which fluxbox
[06:53] <Thordasin> one of them is a scan command and it fails
[06:53] <farous> dam it should have never been installed in /usr/local/bin
[06:53] <BlueEagle> thordasin: After looking trough the mythtv documentation I find to be way over my head here. I really cannot find out how to troubleshoot this problem. :/
[06:53] <pansapiens> msoul: I apt-getted fluxbox and it is in /usr/bin not /usr/local/bin
[06:53] <PurpleTet> ok, ive just followed this how-to, with no luck http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-16361.html
[06:54] <PurpleTet> im up to the type teamspeak part
[06:54] <farous> msoul: the only way it is in /usr/local/bin if you compiled it yourself
[06:54] <Thordasin> ok blue eagle I appreciate the atempt :)
[06:54] <jah_raztah> will dapper be getting gnome 2.16 once the final version is released in september?
[06:54] <jah_raztah> as an update
[06:54] <ese5> has anyone installed ipw3945 drivers in ubuntu?
[06:55] <BlueEagle> thordasin: What did you think about my aalib (ascii art) and braille terminal joke btw? I hope you didn't find it tasteless. :)
[06:55] <farous> jah_raztah: perhaps in backports. normally ubuntu release freeze after a major release
[06:55] <msoul> thanks ubuntu, farous pansapiens
[06:55] <jah_raztah> yes but ubuntu did get gnome 2.14.3
[06:55] <Thordasin> I actually missed the whole joke :) sorry
[06:55] <ubuntu> msoul: did it work?
[06:55] <jah_raztah> dapper*
[06:55] <msoul> yeah
[06:55] <ubuntu> kool
[06:56] <pansapiens> yay
[06:56] <msoul> you know, whenever I Alt+() it prints B on Xterm
[06:56] <farous> msoul: grab some of the cool themes so your experience will be superb ;)
[06:56] <ese5> i'm trying to install iwp3945 drivers and the install guide wants me to have /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent ...  anyone have any ideas?
[06:56] <ivx> can anyone tell me what the command is to setup root right after fresh install?
[06:56] <msoul> farous: I honestly don't know why but I am sure I'll do that ;-)
[06:56] <ese5> this directory/file doesn't seem to exist
[06:56] <jah_raztah> well i hope it gets 2.16 because i don't see a reason to update to edgy eft since it will be more of an experimental release, but i would like to have gnome 2.16 once it release for obvious reasons
[06:56] <BlueEagle> Well I'm off to bed. You all have a good one.
[06:56] <Thordasin> well blue eagle this girl is demanding my atention and not computer stuff :) so i'm gonna close mirc so i can concentrate thanks and nice to meet all of you.
[06:57] <ubuntu> ivx: sudo passwd root
[06:57] <silverton> How would I get Ubuntu to recognize a sata hard drive during install?  It won't recognize mine.
[06:57] <ivx> ubuntu yeah thanks
[06:57] <ubuntu> np
[06:57] <Thordasin> bye all
[06:57] <ubuntu> Thordasin:  tc bro
[06:57] <ubuntu> god bless
[06:57] <msoul> farous: is it like apt-get install themenamehere?
[06:57] <BlueEagle> jah_raztah: It will probably be availible on backports as soon as it's buildt and tested for ubuntu.
[06:57] <BlueEagle> ...but I left.
[06:57] <jrsims> hey, is there a command to launch Gnome's "Trash"?
[06:57] <jah_raztah> ok
[06:58] <farous> msoul: nope you search for fluxbox themes on the net. i use google
[06:58] <jrsims> I want to put a trash icon on my desktop
[06:58] <ese5> ubuntu should detect sata and work fine
[06:58] <specialbuddy> hello
[06:58] <silverton> ese5, I guess I could try again =/
[06:58] <msoul> farous: ah okie
[06:58] <ese5> silverton: installing from the iso?
[06:58] <specialbuddy> can someone help me?
[06:58] <silverton> a cd
[06:58] <ese5> yeah
[06:58] <jrsims> I want to put a trash icon on my desktop. Can someone tell me how to do this?
[06:58] <ese5> i dunno i have sata and had no trouble
[06:58] <specialbuddy> I tried to set up xgl and it screwed up my gdm
[06:58] <specialbuddy> I want it back to the way it was before
[06:58] <ubuntu> jrsims:  do this
[06:59] <BlueEagle> silverton: Are you perrorming a survey or do you actually have a problem? If it's the latter then asking a question pertaining to your problem usually helps.
[06:59] <ubuntu> jrsims:  right clik on the panel which is at the bottom
[06:59] <jrsims> k
[06:59] <farous> msoul: gkrellm is a must get by the way with fluxbox. will tell you the status of your sys. it is in the repos and install some of the packages that are based on it
[06:59] <BlueEagle> performing*
[06:59] <BlueEagle> I just am never getting to bed at this rate. :/
[06:59] <silverton> BlueEagle, it's a question.  I was just wondering which driver module I might need to load
[07:00] <msoul> farous: could you tell me how can I do that?
[07:00] <ubuntu> there choose add to panel
[07:00] <farous> msoul: sudo apt-get install gkrellm
[07:00] <harisund> Does anybody know how I can switch off the framebuffer in the alternate mode of the CD installation? What are my boot time options with the alternate mode?
[07:00] <cafuego> jrsims: That one's mildly tricky.
[07:00] <msoul> tenner: yeah
[07:00] <specialbuddy> can anyone help me get gdm fixed
[07:00] <BlueEagle> silverton: From the info you've provided I am eager to guess "the right one for your device".
[07:00] <farous> msoul: use your package manager to search on gkrellm to see what plugins for it you can use too
[07:00] <jrsims> ubuntu: done
[07:00] <silverton> lol >.<
[07:00] <ubuntu> specialbuddy:  what is wrong?
[07:00] <silverton> again, I wasn't sure if there was a generic one that would work or not...
[07:00] <jrsims> cafuego: what do I have to do?
[07:00] <kjm> harisund : http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=ubuntu+boot+cd+framebuffer&spell=1
[07:00] <BlueEagle> silverton: Ahh, sata drive?
[07:01] <msoul> okie
[07:01] <ubuntu> jrsims:  in new window that open , get trash applet
[07:01] <BlueEagle> silverton: are you on the livecd now?
[07:01] <silverton> BlueEagle, no, windows
[07:01] <silverton> but yes, I'm trying to install it on a sata hard drive
[07:01] <specialbuddy> well I can only use my computer in recovery ubuntu
[07:01] <harisund> kjm bad luck. There are only bugs and stuff. There are no 'boot time options'
[07:01] <ubuntu> specialbuddy: what error u get via gdm?
[07:01] <BlueEagle> silverton: ok. Do you know if your network is properly set up on the live cd? (ie. did you try browsing the web while running on the live cd?)
[07:01] <jrsims> ubuntu: you want me to add trash to the panel?
[07:02] <cafuego> jrsims: The easiest way would be to install the 'gtweakui' package, then run 'gtweakui-nautilus' and tick the 'Show trash icon' box.
[07:02] <specialbuddy> I can't remember ubuntu
[07:02] <silverton> no, the onboard NIC isn't supported, so I put a supported one in
[07:02] <kjm> harisund : sry then.  I dunno
[07:02] <jrsims> cafuego: what does that package give me besides trash?
[07:02] <silverton> so, well, to answer your question, yes I can browse the web from the live cd
[07:02] <specialbuddy> I tried to set up xgl and messed it up
[07:02] <ese5> anyone installed ipw3945 drivers by hand?
[07:02] <cafuego> jrsims: A few more twekable options for natilus, your gnome session, galeon and the menus.
[07:02] <jrsims> cafuego: k cool
[07:03] <silverton> if it helps, it's the nforce 430 chipset
[07:03] <BlueEagle> silverton: ok. Would you be so kind as to boot from the live cd and join this channel using either xchat or irssi (xchat being the most-like-mIRC graphical client)
[07:03] <ubuntu> jrsims:  well i keep it there
[07:03] <ubuntu> works for me :)
[07:03] <jrsims> ubuntu: ok. Yeah, I knew how to do that.
[07:03] <cafuego> jrsims: it's a shortcut to otherwise tedious navigation in the configration editor (essentially regedit for Gnome)
[07:03] <ubuntu> well u can always make a shortcut
[07:03] <ubuntu> if u want
[07:03] <jrsims> cafuego: after its installed, where do I go to use it?
[07:03] <silverton> personal opinion: mirc sucks balls...  I'm using xchat right now.     I'm not really "linux-stupid"  I know my way around, but yeah, I can do that
[07:03] <jrsims> cafuego: nm
[07:03] <msoul> farous: installed gkrellm
[07:03] <cafuego> jrsims: Run it from a terminal
[07:04] <ivx> does anyone know why when i do modprobe ndiswrapper nothing happens?
[07:04] <cafuego> jrsims: gtweak<tab>
[07:04] <silverton> now I just gotta find it ^_^
[07:04] <ubuntu> cafuego: got a link for it?
[07:04] <BlueEagle> silverton: Clue is that I'll need to see what lspci thinks about your sata chip. :)
[07:04] <cafuego> ubuntu: sudo apt-get install gtweakui
[07:04] <silverton> okay
[07:04] <ubuntu> cafuego:  ty
[07:04] <farous> msoul: did you look at the plugins like gkrellm-x86info and gkrellm-volume
[07:04] <silverton> BlueEagle, I don't have the latest 6.06, I think I have the 5.10 live cd though, is that okay?
[07:04] <BlueEagle> silverton: In most cases it should be supported OTB but I've got no experience with the 430 chipset.
[07:04] <farous> msoul: to run it type gkrellm. if you like it add it to the startup script
[07:05] <msoul> farous: I didn't started yet googling on how to do so
[07:05] <BlueEagle> silverton: I see. So you've got the dapper alternate install cd?
[07:05] <ubuntu> cafuego:  ty
[07:05] <BlueEagle> silverton: shouldn't matter as the sata chip will probably be reported the same. :)
[07:05] <silverton> no, I don't have a drapper cd, to my knowledge at least
[07:06] <farous> msoul: googling for? if you installed it to run it just type gkrellm in a terminal :). anyway will leave you to have fun with fluxbox now :)
[07:06] <silverton> oh, haha, it's 5.04...
[07:06] <msoul> farous: cool
[07:06] <BlueEagle> silverton: I see, so you're installing breezy?
[07:06] <silverton> some reason, I thought it was 5.10 ;D
[07:06] <BlueEagle> hoary?
[07:06] <msoul> farous: thanks a bunch!
[07:06] <farous> msoul: your welcomed :)
[07:06] <BlueEagle> silverton: I really do recomend you getting a dapper disc then as hoary is way old and much has changed since then. :)
[07:07] <silverton> k, I found a kubuntu 5.10 cd, but I'll boot the ubuntu 5.04 live
[07:07] <ubuntu> bbl
[07:07] <ubuntu> tc guys
[07:07] <silverton> BlueEagle, can we still check it out?
[07:07] <msoul> is there a way though like having it on the sidebar
[07:07] <ubuntu> god bless
[07:07] <BlueEagle> silverton: however it should be possible to completely upgrade from hoary.
[07:07] <msoul> tyt ubuntu
[07:07] <BlueEagle> silverton: sure we can.
[07:07] <BlueEagle> silverton: Just one thing
[07:07] <silverton> ?
[07:07] <BlueEagle> silverton: what makes you think that the drive is not supported?
[07:07] <wheelswitch> where can i check my crontab mail?
[07:07] <BlueEagle> silverton: ie. which error have you stoumbled upon?
[07:08] <silverton> no error
[07:08] <lufis> Has anyone else noticed that sometimes CD playback breaks up?
[07:08] <silverton> jsut when it goes to the partioner, there isn't a drive
[07:08] <BlueEagle> silverton: I see. :/
[07:09] <silverton> That's why I assume the sata chip isn't supported :P
[07:09] <UKMatt> does anyone knwo why i would have trouble resizing a partition to make it bigger?
[07:09] <BlueEagle> silverton: Well I would love to help but unfourtenatly I am really too tired.
[07:09] <silverton> shall I boot from the hoary live cd?
[07:09] <pansapiens> lufis: I had some weirdness like that on my Toshiba laptop
[07:09] <silverton> oh okay, that's cool :P
[07:09] <silverton> I do appreciate the insight
[07:09] <specialbuddy> can someone post thier gdm.conf-custom file?
[07:09] <wheelswitch> where can i check my crontab mail?
[07:09] <BlueEagle> silverton: but you might want to check out lspci on the live cd.
[07:09] <BlueEagle> silverton: ...and it might be a problem with the old version of the software.
[07:09] <silverton> k, I'll do that
[07:10] <silverton> I'm in the process of download the latest install cd
[07:10] <BlueEagle> silverton: if at all possible I would recomend you get a dapper install cd.
[07:10] <BlueEagle> silverton: :D
[07:10] <lufis> pansapiens: Hmmm... I don't know why. I have DMA on... and it doesn't seem to be restricted to just one program. Both Banshee and Rhythmbox skip on a perfectly clean CD
[07:10] <silverton> flying at 700KB/s I'll have it in 7 minutes, lol
[07:10] <UKMatt> when I pull up GParted off the live CD, i can resize down one partition, but when I try to make the other larger it wont let me
[07:10] <pansapiens> lufis: solved it by turning DMA off ..eg hdparam -d 0 /dev/cdrom
[07:10] <BlueEagle> silverton: I hope that cures your ailment if not I'll be back in approx 10 hours or so (unless I'm drunk at that time. Hard to tell now really)
[07:10] <silverton> alrighty, I most definitely will not be awake :P  I'm quite the night owl
[07:10] <specialbuddy> is there a site where I can view config files for ubuntu because I changed some of mine without saving and now I can't get anything besides a terminal
[07:11] <silverton> I see light, and it's sleep time ;)
[07:11] <lufis> pansapiens: Did it work for you?
[07:11] <BlueEagle> silverton: so am I but now it's 7:12 am here. :p
[07:11] <fdsd> hey guys, I want to modify the ubuntu livecd, I want to change the user it creates from ubuntu to something else, how would I go about doing that?
[07:11] <silverton> gotcha, tis only a mere 10:11pm here
[07:11] <harisund> Does anybody know what boot time options I can pass to the alternate CD kernel?
[07:11] <BlueEagle> again I try to leave but now I've logged off all the other stuff. GOod night.
[07:11] <specialbuddy> is there a site where I can view config files for ubuntu because I changed some of mine without saving and now I can't get anything besides a terminal
[07:11] <specialbuddy> ?
[07:11] <silverton> night dude
[07:11] <pansapiens> lufis: Yeh, it did strangely.  Just worth a try ... if it does it on every CD.
[07:11] <ese5> i'm trying to install drivers for my intel 3945 wifi card and i get this error when typing the commands they provide in the install:
[07:11] <kjm> specialbuddy : Is it X that isn't working?
[07:11] <ese5> sed: can't read  /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent: No such file or directory
[07:11] <Elios> how does samba feel about USB printers?
[07:12] <BlueEagle> specialbuddy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:12] <specialbuddy> could be that or gdm
[07:12] <lufis> pansapiens: Ok, thanks :)
[07:12] <silverton> Elios, my USB printer works
[07:12] <specialbuddy> probably both
[07:12] <pansapiens> lufis: you can always turn it straight back on again if it doesn't help :)
[07:12] <silverton> HP Deskjet 3550
[07:12] <Elios> ok
[07:12] <specialbuddy> I think gdm is the problem though
[07:12] <Elios> well the driver for the printer was in the live cd in the GUI
[07:12] <specialbuddy> that's why I was wondering if I could look at the gdm.conf file
[07:12] <Elios> not sure how to do that with the comandline
[07:12] <kjm> Elios : It is a little jealous of their USB looks, and the fact that they have more "friends".  But, samba is a push over, and shares everything.
[07:12] <Elios> lol
[07:12] <Elios> ;p
[07:15] <Elios> hmmm
[07:15] <kjm> ..
[07:16] <Elios> mount: can't find /home in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:16] <wheelswitch> where can i check my crontab mail?
[07:16] <Elios> how do i fix that
[07:16] <waseem> hi im having trouble with CUPS, it wont restart properly
[07:16] <eternaljoy> I have block popups enabled in Firefox and installed the adblock popup as extension!  Yet mail.com still has popups appear! Any solution please?
[07:16] <tanath> i have an odd problem. i can't turn on numlock. no prob with capslock though
[07:17] <[jb] > to change gcc permissions, do i have to know where is it installed?
[07:18] <kjm> jb : It is usually beneficial.
[07:18] <waseem> is anyone here familiar with printing?
[07:18] <dalila> how do i get flash to work in firefox, what pkgs do i need ? thxs totally new need to view something quickly
[07:18] <tanath> oh, and alt+tab doesn't work
[07:18] <kjm> jb : But, why do you need to alter the permissions for gcc?
[07:18] <[jb] > kjm, i know, but i dont need it on my server
[07:18] <[jb] > kjm, security
[07:19] <kjm> sudo rm <dir>/gcc ?
[07:19] <tanath> !flash
[07:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:19] <[jb] > kjm, i really dont want to remove, i just want to set the permissions to superuser only
[07:20] <lmosher> Ok I totally screwed up my X... I installed some manual .deb packages trying to get XGL to work. SImple stuff just xgl, compiz glibz-xgl and mesa-cvs
[07:20] <[jb] > i got it, i need to run whereis gcc to see where it is installed
[07:20] <lmosher> it didn't work, I uninstalled the four packages
[07:20] <lmosher> rebooted and gdm just -fails-
[07:20] <kjm> jb : which gcc
[07:20] <lmosher> dumps me to a TTY login
[07:21] <kjm> jb : command $which gcc : should be in /usr/bin
[07:21] <lmosher> startx doesn't work either. No errors that I can find. Any easy way to re-install X/gdm so I can start at this again? i'd hate to re-install -everyting-
[07:21] <kjm> then a simple chmod will do the tricl
[07:21] <Elios> OK
[07:21] <kjm> *trick
[07:21] <Elios> next fun thing i want to atempt
[07:21] <dalila> what repo is flashplugin nonfree?
[07:21] <lmosher> But I'm 2 seconds from just reinstalling the whole OS since it's fairly quick..I'd just lose a lot of configuration. Any tips?
[07:21] <larka06> I did not find a topic so I will ask a question about DNS (named.conf) if that is ok
[07:21] <dalila> !flashplugin-nonfree
[07:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashplugin-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <kjm> !media
[07:22] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[07:22] <Elios> is there a way i can make this box force logins on the windows clients befor letting them on the network
[07:22] <bigfuzzyjesus> !ipod
[07:22] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[07:22] <bigfuzzyjesus> !linux
[07:22] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[07:22] <Elios> like RADIUS kinda thing
[07:22] <Elios> soo say i have the clinets use dhcp
[07:23] <Elios> and thay dont get a usable ip till thay log in and auth with the server
[07:23] <pansapiens> !blast
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <specialbuddy> can anyone tell me what their gdm.conf-custom file looks like?
[07:23] <tanath> lmosher: undo any changes you made according to whatever guide(s) you used and follow this one: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168618
[07:24] <kjm> specialbuddy : Is this from a borked xgl install?
[07:24] <specialbuddy> yeah
[07:24] <larka06> ubotu  To install flash plugin just go to adobe and get the gz uncompress it then install in the terminal with ./
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about To install flash plugin just go to adobe and get the gz uncompress it then install in the terminal with ./ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <specialbuddy> I want it back to normal
[07:24] <kjm> specialbuddy : get rid of that file.  and things should get better
[07:25] <tanath> specialbuddy: use this guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168618
[07:25] <specialbuddy> just get rid of it all together?
[07:25] <Warbo> specialbuddy: I installed AIGLX but Xorg was screwed so I still use Xorg-air, just not with Compiz :(
[07:25] <kjm> specialbuddy : listen to what tanath says ^^
[07:25] <specialbuddy> well I just want to know how to make it back to normal
[07:25] <specialbuddy> I don't want xgl right now
[07:26] <specialbuddy> I'll mess with that later
[07:26] <tanath> specialbuddy: just comment out the changes you made
[07:26] <tanath> specialbuddy: for both gdm.conf and gdm.conf-custom
[07:26] <larka06> Does anybody know if in the named.conf (DNS) can I comment out the first include statement going to named.conf.options
[07:27] <tanath> specialbuddy: for the custom file, they should be at the bottom. follow the guide you used again only undo things instead. :P
[07:27] <specialbuddy> well I just erased the whole thing and replaced it with another one
[07:27] <tanath> specialbuddy: don't forget gdm.conf too
[07:27] <tanath> specialbuddy: only keep that one
[07:27] <specialbuddy> I don't know if I did anything to gdm.conf
[07:27] <tanath> specialbuddy: there should be 1 or 2 changes you made to that one too... a timeout thingy and maybe something else
[07:28] <Warbo> specialbuddy: When you say "erased the whole thing" I really hope you mean "changed it's filename", since that is a pretty major change which you may (as in: now) regret
[07:28] <tanath> specialbuddy: a display thingy
[07:28] <tanath> Warbo: in this case, it's ok, but good advice
[07:28] <specialbuddy> well I just cleared the contents and replaced it with one I found
[07:28] <specialbuddy> but I want to know if anyone can post their gdm.conf-custom
[07:29] <danieleboyo> i am having some slight samba trboule
[07:29] <tanath> specialbuddy: http://pastebin.ca/137207
[07:30] <unix_infidel> hey guys i'm running dapper on my thinkpad and i cant get fn+f4 to work (put the laptop into sleep mode)
[07:30] <danieleboyo> with retrieving a file from another computer
[07:30] <specialbuddy> thanks
[07:30] <unix_infidel> the default stuff plus tpb is installed but i still cant get it to work.
[07:30] <unix_infidel> it worked fine in breezy but since this upgrade to dapper things are broken.
[07:30] <acad> what do i need my cd writer device set to in order to use k3b?
[07:30] <[jb] > where's located the file with all services available for the users?
[07:30] <tanath> specialbuddy: the commented lines can be deleted
[07:30] <specialbuddy> do I need it to equal 1 for Xgl if I use ATI
[07:30] <unix_infidel> anyone with some insight?
[07:30] <specialbuddy> because mine says 0
[07:31] <specialbuddy> that might be a problem?
[07:31] <tanath> specialbuddy: use 1
[07:31] <ese5> how does ubuntu handle hotplug / udev?
[07:31] <specialbuddy> ok
[07:31] <specialbuddy> I'm going to try that
[07:31] <tanath> specialbuddy: follow the guide i linked you to
[07:31] <tanath> specialbuddy: it's the one that works
[07:31] <specialbuddy> if this works then it would be great:)
[07:31] <tanath> specialbuddy: i'm using it now
[07:31] <specialbuddy> is it nice
[07:31] <JhonnyB> hi everybody
[07:31] <tanath> specialbuddy: aside from a couple minor glitches, it's great
[07:32] <IcemanV9> after i installed fglrx, i typed my username .. MAN! the fonts were BIG. how can i fix the size of font
[07:32] <IcemanV9> DANG LAG!
[07:32] <larka06> can anyone see me?
[07:32] <JhonnyB> im very new to lunix and need help plz
[07:32] <tanath> larka06: nope
[07:32] <Warbo> larka06: No, but I can see what you type
[07:32] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Ask away
[07:32] <tanath> Warbo: ;p
[07:32] <larka06> Ok how do I get seen?
[07:33] <specialbuddy> cool
[07:33] <Warbo> larka06: Get a webcam
[07:33] <tanath> larka06: webcam?
[07:33] <specialbuddy> I'm going to restart
[07:33] <specialbuddy> thanks
[07:33] <tanath> np
[07:33] <phoenix198> Can anyone help me install ndiswrapper?  I'm still fairly new to linux and am having problems with the install.
[07:33] <ese5> :-(
[07:33] <JhonnyB> first thing i need to ask is, is there a way to boot and run it directly from usb stick?
[07:33] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Yes, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB
[07:34] <tanath> specialbuddy: btw, make sure you have direct rendering before you switch
[07:34] <JhonnyB> thanx warbo,
[07:34] <Warbo> JhonnyB: And I am probably the guy to ask 'cos I wrote it
[07:34] <larka06> Ok I understand.  I am only interested in getting the answer to the necessity of the first include statement in the ,DNS, named.conf
[07:34] <JhonnyB> oh great warbo
[07:34] <JhonnyB> i desprately neeed help warbo
[07:35] <larka06> Is there anyone here who may know about named.conf
[07:35] <Warbo> JhonnyB: What is the problem
[07:35] <JhonnyB> i so new to lunix and dont kno anything to start from
[07:35] <Warbo> JhonnyB: What is it you want to do?
[07:35] <tanath> anyone have any idea why numlock might not work?
[07:35] <JhonnyB> warbo i bout a ultrapc oqo
[07:35] <phoenix198> Anyone here familiar with ndiswrapper installs? (and feel like assisting me, please)
[07:35] <Warbo> OK, I don;t know what that is
[07:35] <Warbo> carry on :)
[07:35] <tanath> or alt+tab?
[07:36] <JhonnyB> i can give u web site for it
[07:36] <JhonnyB> it has some ubountu support
[07:36] <Warbo> Well it would be no use really. To help you I need to know either what problem you have, or what you want to do
[07:36] <msoul> okie, I did tar -xvf vlaad_vlaadworld.tar.bz2, how can I change it to that theme for instance in fluxbox
[07:37] <JhonnyB> ok wat i want is to run it directly from usb without hdd
[07:37] <markedwards> Can anyone give me the lowdown on dapper-backports?  Is it down?  Are there just none?
[07:37] <JhonnyB> and at oqo site there r all the drivers for uboutu
[07:37] <Warbo> JhonnyB: OK, how new is the computer? Since new ones can usually boot off USB, but slightly older ones can't (like mine, so I made a boot CD to let me)
[07:38] <UKMatt> where do you install a metacity theme?
[07:38] <Warbo> ~/.themes
[07:38] <Warbo> (~=home)
[07:38] <JhonnyB> yes its very new
[07:38] <JhonnyB> plus it does boot
[07:38] <tanath> markedwards: it exists... but i have it disabled, so dunno if it's working
[07:38] <danieleboyo> so anyone help with samba?
[07:38] <Warbo> JhonnyB: OK, then you may be able to just install Ubutnu to a USb drive like any other drive
[07:38] <JhonnyB> i actually successfully boot knoppix for usb
[07:38] <markedwards> tanath: well, it "exists" but it doesn't appear to actually have any packages in it
[07:38] <msoul> UKMatt: in /home/user
[07:39] <tanath> markedwards: o.O
[07:39] <JhonnyB> can i pm u warbo?
[07:39] <Warbo> Oh yeah, ~=$HOME (not /home :) )
[07:39] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Is it really necissary? If so then go ahead
[07:39] <msoul> Warbo: so mv themename to ~/.themes that's all?
[07:39] <UKMatt> msoul, i thought you just dragged it into the theme menu
[07:39] <msoul> or am I misunderstanding you here
[07:39] <JhonnyB> thanx warbo
[07:39] <markedwards> tanath: i.e., http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz is a 0K file
[07:39] <msoul> UKMatt: no, first day with fluxbox :/
[07:39] <IcemanV9> install ubuntu onto usb stick?! is there room on it?
[07:40] <UKMatt> msoul, fluxbox?
[07:40] <msoul> yeah
[07:40] <Warbo> UKMatt: You can drag 'n' drop it into the theme tool, or extract it to $HOME/.themes. Either way works
[07:40] <Warbo> Oh wait, are you the Fluxbox guy? Sorry
[07:40] <UKMatt> warbo, thats what i thought but it isnt working... and i have no idea what fluxbox is
[07:40] <msoul> :o
[07:41] <tanath> markedwards: i think you're right: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[07:41] <tanath> markedwards: no dapper-backports listed in the dropdown list
[07:41] <msoul> I think it should appear in styles, no?
[07:41] <Warbo> UKMatt: OK, someone else then :) You just need to drag the .tar.gz (or .tar.bz2) into the window and it should work. Or else extract it into the .themes folder in your home (it is hidden) and then launch the Theme tool (it may be in the "Detailed Settings" or whatever that button on the right is)
[07:42] <danieleboyo> samba, anyone?
[07:42] <markedwards> tanath: isn't that kind of bizarre?  I can think of 2 or 3 I'd really like to have
[07:42] <Warbo> IcemanV9: http://www.freshcreation.nl/comments.php?id=180_0_1_0_C
[07:43] <phoenix198> I need some help with ndiswrapper if anyone can assist.  (already searched forums and checked ndis wiki).
[07:43] <UKMatt> warbo, yeah i've always dragged in and i just got a theme from gnome-look.org so its legit, but when i go to install its saying the file format is invalid
[07:43] <JhonnyB> warbo can i have a bit of ur time? plz
[07:43] <Warbo> UKMatt: Try the "manual" way of extracting it yourself in the .themes folder
[07:43] <msoul> Warbo: Warbo I did tar -xvf vlaad_vlaadworld.tar.bz2
[07:44] <msoul> and I thought I'd see it in styles after
[07:44] <Warbo> msoul: if YOU are the FLuxbox guy, then I once themed Fluxbox a long time ago. I forgot how
[07:44] <IcemanV9> wow. didn't know it does exist. thought 1 or 2 gb available. thks for the link, Warbo.
[07:44] <tanath> markedwards: yeah... and i even found mirrors taht are in a similar state
[07:44] <msoul> ah okie
[07:44] <Warbo> IcemanV9: Well, I doubt JhonnyB has one :)
[07:45] <tanath> markedwards: apparently it simply hasn't been implemented yet
[07:45] <bigfuzzyjesus> ubuntu off topic is soo where its at
[07:46] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Looks like PMs are disabled for you. Maybe if you are not registered
[07:46] <danieleboyo> i was trying to transfer a file from a windows computer to a linux computer through samba on the linux computer and it did not work, saying i did not have permition...any help?
[07:47] <tanath> danieleboyo: i haven't used samba with linux, but it's not too difficult to use an ftp server
[07:47] <markedwards> tanath: weird.  I just posted to the webforums.  seems like they should be up by now.
[07:48] <tanath> danieleboyo: gproftpd
[07:48] <danieleboyo> tanath: i just want to transfer a fiel from one computer to another, and they are connected by crossover
[07:49] <JhonnyB> i got one pm from u warbo
[07:49] <|ryan|> how do install ubuntu to my had drive from the command line on the live CD?
[07:49] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Really? There was no PM session initiated on my end
[07:49] <|ryan|> I can't seem to get X working.
[07:49] <haasteem> hi, so i just finished upgrading from breezy to dapper... and right near the end, something went wrong...
[07:50] <JhonnyB> u saw u typed, are u getting it
[07:50] <Warbo> |ryan|: The short answer, you can't. The long answer, get the alternate CD. The really complicated answer, fdisk and debootstrap
[07:50] <haasteem> it gave an error and it had something to do with firestarter
[07:50] <RamiKassab> hey do you guys know how to link the volume control buttons on a keyboard to adjust both master and headphone volume?
[07:50] <tanath> danieleboyo: do they have net access? if so, you could use a hosting site, or gmail or something to transfer
[07:50] <Warbo> JhonnyB: If PM isn't working then just talk in here
[07:51] <JhonnyB> ok warbo
[07:51] <tanath> danieleboyo: haven't tried with a crossover yet
[07:51] <haasteem> so all i could do was click ok in the error dialog and the upgradewas cut short
[07:51] <RamiKassab> on my laptop, if I have speakers/headphones plugged in, using the colume control buttons built into the keyboard only adjusts the master volume which doesn't affect external speakers/headphones, only the internal ones. Any idea on how to resolve this?
[07:51] <haasteem> when i rebooted it said that it can't load hardware drivers...
[07:51] <haasteem> i have no sound right now, but the rest seems to be working...
[07:51] <JhonnyB> as i said, i need to run it directly from usb stick, along with all hardware drivers
[07:52] <haasteem> how can i solve this problem?
[07:52] <FunnyLookinHat> RamiKassab, best suggestion I could give you is to search ubuntuforums.org for your laptop type and sound issues
[07:52] <JhonnyB> all the ubuntu drivers r on oqo site
[07:52] <FunnyLookinHat> RamiKassab, that sortof thing is very hardware dependant
[07:52] <danieleboyo> tanath: would you know of someone who would know a bit more?
[07:52] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Most hardware drivers come with Ubuntu by default. You only need to bother with them after it is installed anyway
[07:52] <RamiKassab> FunnyLookinHat: tried that but I'm not finding much help
[07:52] <RamiKassab> FunnyLookinHat: I'll keep lookin I guess :(
[07:52] <zack__> i downloaded wolfenstien enemy territory and its a .run file how do i install it?
[07:52] <LJHarb> i want to add a line to some of my users' .bashrc files so that screen opens up in multiuser mode, and my account is acladded. how can i do this?
[07:52] <Warbo> zack__: "chmod u+x filename.run && sudo ./filename.run"
[07:52] <|ryan|> Warbo: any idea why X doesn't work?
[07:53] <unix_infidel> anyone here with a thinkpad t42 running ubuntu dapper having problems with thinkpad going into sleep mode on fn+f4?
[07:53] <JhonnyB> but like this pc is very new and different, its as small as pda
[07:53] <FunnyLookinHat> RamiKassab, yea sorry....   If you don't find anything you should consider posting a bug on launchpad concerning it so that it can be fixed in the next release
[07:53] <|ryan|> I am trying to install on a G3 iMac
[07:53] <tanath> danieleboyo: sorry. i've forgotten a lot, so i'm of limited help right now
[07:53] <unix_infidel> this worked fine with ubuntu breezy, but after this freshinstall to dapper it isnt working correctly.
[07:53] <JhonnyB> so i doubt it the os will pick drivers automatically
[07:53] <Warbo> |ryan|: No idea sorry. I've only used a Mac for, like, 5 mins at a museum :)
[07:53] <tanath> lol
[07:53] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Oh. Hang on I'll check the link
[07:53] <RamiKassab> FunnyLookinHat: ok I will. I know lots of people have this problem but they're still looking for a sollution to it
[07:53] <JhonnyB> ok
[07:54] <JhonnyB> its www.oqo.com
[07:54] <|ryan|> anyone else know how to make this infernel thing work?
[07:54] <|ryan|> or how I can upgrade my existing install?
[07:54] <wahjava> hi channel
[07:54] <dibblego> which directory is conventionally used to install software that is distributed in .tar.gz?
[07:54] <JhonnyB> there u can click on support and in there linux
[07:54] <LJHarb> anyone know the command line option for screen to enable multiuser mode and acladd?
[07:54] <danieleboyo> tanath, its ok, do you know anyone that could help?
[07:54] <dibblego> I've seen about 43 trillion different conventions /opt /usr/share /usr/local
[07:54] <tanath> sorry
[07:55] <wahjava> I've copied mysql database from another computer and the mysql database doesn't contains "debian-sys-maint" user
[07:55] <tanath> ftp might work though
[07:55] <wahjava> what privileges do I need to grant
[07:55] <unix_infidel> anyone??
[07:55] <LJHarb> wahjava, cant you just export your old db as sql commands, and batch create it on the new machine? trhen privs dont matter
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> dibblego: I went the /opt route when I got new Firefox versions.  Pretty much up to you.
[07:56] <haasteem> hi, so i just finished upgrading from breezy to dapper... and right near the end, something went wrong...
[07:56] <haasteem> when i booted up it said it couldn't load hardware drivers
[07:56] <wahjava> LJHarb: any other suggestions ?
[07:56] <haasteem> saying /sbin/modprobe quit...
[07:57] <haasteem> the upgrade quit after it gave an error and it had something to do with firestarter
[07:58] <LJHarb> wahjava: i have no idea about privs, im new to linux, but you can export both data and structure to a text file, and batch create it on the new machine. I use SQLyog for the exporting.
[07:58] <dibblego> tonyyarusso, I've even considered making my own /software
[07:58] <wahjava> LJHarb: ok, thanks
[07:59] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Can the device act as a USB drive for a PC at all?
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> dibblego: Works too.  Just set permissions how ever you need them and have at it.
[07:59] <JhonnyB> yes it does
[07:59] <JhonnyB> i can boot and run lnoppix from usb
[08:00] <JhonnyB> only that it doesnt pick drivers
[08:00] <rixth> As apt-cache search graph gives so many irrelvant results (due to the word graphical) I need to know how to make pretty graphs.
[08:00] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Basically I am thinking that Ubuntu is debootstrapped onto a USB drive
[08:00] <rixth> gnuplot is ugly
[08:00] <|ryan|> bleh
[08:00] <Warbo> !info kplot
[08:00] <ubotu> Package kplot does not exist in dapper
[08:00] <rixth> I don't us eKDE
[08:00] <Warbo> Dammit, just a joke anyway :)
[08:00] <|ryan|> How do i uninstall all the kubuntu stuff?
[08:01] <newbie263> hi all, just installed ubuntu dvd, but theres very little installed software, how do i add the dvd to sources.list
[08:01] <haasteem> does someone know what may have gone wrong?
[08:01] <joe_> i just installed the ati proprietary drivers, but i dont see fglrx in lsmod, what file do i edit to add fglrx to have it autoload on startup?
[08:01] <JhonnyB> i dont kno wat u exactly mean warbo
[08:01] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Can you boot up a regular desktop/laptop from an Ubuntu CD?
[08:02] <Ademan> does the font exist that the ubuntu logo was done in?
[08:02] <Warbo> joe_: /etc/modules
[08:02] <Warbo> Ademan: Look on the Wiki
[08:02] <JhonnyB> i never tried ubuntu, but i tried other os and knoppix, they all work
[08:02] <JhonnyB> and reatogo too
[08:02] <Warbo> Ademan: If you find an SVG of the Ubuntu logo then they will link to it
[08:02] <Ademan> oh alright, thanks
[08:02] <newbie263> hi all, just installed ubuntu dvd, but theres very little installed software, how do i add the dvd to sources.list
[08:03] <Warbo> JhonnyB: I mean you will need access to the Internet and your USB drive (without running off the USB drive, so an Ubuntu CD would be best)
[08:03] <joe_> Warbo, i can't figure it out, i know fglrx is installed yet it returns "FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/volatile/fglrx.ko': No such file or directory"
[08:04] <JhonnyB> yes prooly ur right
[08:04] <JhonnyB> but eventually i need to run it from usb, coz its not easy to carry external usb drive
[08:04] <warlock> In /etc/motd is there someway to display the users IP (the one who just logged on and sees the motd)?
[08:04] <Acid___> joe_: have you installed the resticted modules ?
[08:04] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Then the drive can be formatted and the "debootstrap" tool can be used, which installs a bare minimum Ubuntu system on a drive. Then "chroot" can enter that new installation without rebooting, so things can be installed and configured
[08:04] <joe_> Acid___, yep
[08:05] <ashik> Dear All
[08:05] <JhonnyB> and even the drivers can be?
[08:05] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Then just plug the USB drive into your weird mini-PC thingie
[08:05] <warlock> In /etc/motd is there someway to display the users IP (the one who just logged on and sees the motd)?
[08:05] <Acid___> joe_: and also xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[08:05] <ashik> I am having problem with apt-get command
[08:05] <JhonnyB> lol
[08:06] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Everything can be set up during the chroot stage from within an Ubuntu Cd on a PC
[08:06] <JhonnyB> great
[08:06] <JhonnyB> but warbo
[08:06] <Benny> Hi
[08:06] <joe_> Acid___, i found fglrx.ko, it's in /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/misc/fglrx.ko not in volatile/fglrx.ko
[08:06] <Benny> i have a little problem with ubuntu
[08:06] <JhonnyB> i kno well bout dos and windows, but nothin bout linux
[08:06] <joe_> AccessExcess, but modprobe wants to load the nonexistant one in /volatile
[08:06] <Acid___> joe_: and you can't modprobe it ?
[08:07] <Warbo> JhonnyB: I know, I was just expressing what I was planning
[08:07] <JhonnyB> so i dont even understand terms like debooting of chroot
[08:07] <joe_> Acid___, i didnt mean AccessExcess
[08:07] <warlock> how do I change the hostname of the server again?
[08:07] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Do you have access to an Ubuntu Live CD (probably needs to be Ubuntu)
[08:07] <Benny> i want to write a executable file which do this commands:!. sudo bash 2. cd /etc/init.d 3. ./openvpn start
[08:07] <JhonnyB> warbo, ill be so grateful for ur help, and im even very happy to pay u for ur time and work
[08:07] <Benny> can somen help me
[08:07] <ashik> hi Warbo
[08:08] <Warbo> JhonnyB: No money needed :)
[08:08] <JhonnyB> i dont kno how to get one warbo
[08:08] <Warbo> ashik: Hi
[08:08] <Benny> i want to write a executable file which do this commands:1. sudo bash 2. cd /etc/init.d 3. ./openvpn start
[08:08] <Warbo> !mirror
[08:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[08:08] <ashik> Please help me
[08:08] <Acid___> joe_: try tom move the module to /misc to see if it works
[08:08] <Hagbarddenstore> !hey
[08:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:08] <Hagbarddenstore> !commands
[08:08] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:08] <Warbo> !helpme
[08:08] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:08] <CokeNCode> ok, guys, i'm trying to set up a mail servre on my ubuntu box temporarily for hte purpose of testing some software
[08:08] <JhonnyB> ok so u recomend i download the cd first?
[08:09] <CokeNCode> does smtpd come installed by default
[08:09] <CokeNCode> if so, how do i start it
[08:09] <ashik> my apt-get install build-essential command is not working
[08:09] <Hagbarddenstore> !stipud
[08:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stipud - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:09] <joe_> Acid___, gotta restart X, brb
[08:09] <CokeNCode> if not ... how do i install it and start the service running ?
[08:09] <Hagbarddenstore> ashik:  build-essentials
[08:09] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Yes, since debootstrap relies on different scripts for different Debian-based systems, so only an ubuntu CD will contain the Ubuntu install scripts
[08:09] <th1a> ashik is a friend in Nepal who is trying to get Ubuntu running...
[08:09] <Warbo> ashik: What is teh error?
[08:10] <JhonnyB> ok im goin there
[08:10] <th1a> My understanding is that the install went ok, but build-essential, subversion, etc.
[08:10] <joe_> Acid___, crazyness that did it, thanks
[08:10] <warlock> how do I change the hostname of the server again?
[08:10] <th1a> isn't found when he tries to apt-get them.
[08:10] <Acid___> joe_: no problem :)
[08:10] <Benny> i want to write a executable file which do this commands:1. sudo bash 2. cd /etc/init.d 3. ./openvpn start
[08:10] <th1a> I am baffled.
[08:10] <Warbo> !info subversion
[08:10] <ubotu> subversion: advanced version control system (aka. svn). In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.1-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 3016 kB
[08:10] <joe_> Acid___, it's a weird problem, i followed the ubuntu ati binary driver guide to the letter
[08:10] <CokeNCode> guys , smtp daemon
[08:10] <Warbo> Hmm, they all seem to be in main
[08:10] <CokeNCode> quick help here
[08:10] <alexcamilo> how good is ubuntu with onboard SATAs? Is it like PATA? i've only done PATA before with linux cause i didnt have a comp that had sata.
[08:11] <Hagbarddenstore> th1a:  No repos for it maybe? Does he have Uni and Multi enabled?
[08:11] <JhonnyB> warbo its showing me few files to dl
[08:11] <ashik> Warbo: Package build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:11] <ashik> is only available from another source
[08:11] <Benny> i want to write a executable file which do this commands:1. sudo bash 2. cd /etc/init.d 3. ./openvpn  start
[08:11] <Mportnoy> Hello, Anyone from Costa Rica?
[08:11] <Acid___> joe_: you installed the ati binary from the ati website ?
[08:11] <Benny> how to write suich a file?
[08:11] <JhonnyB> is there any iso image?
[08:11] <Acid___> joe_: or the ubuntu one
[08:11] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Get the i386 desktop CD (the 32bit PC one)
[08:11] <alexcamilo> do they all work or is it hit or miss?
[08:11] <thoreauputic> ashik: then the /etc/apt/sources.list is broken
[08:11] <thoreauputic> !sources
[08:11] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:11] <Warbo> JhonnyB: They are all ISOs aren't they? Hang on....
[08:11] <trygg> Hm, my sound has borked. It worked before the reboot and I havent done anything special iirc.
[08:11] <FirstStrike> hm
[08:12] <LJHarb> whats iirc stand for?
[08:12] <FirstStrike> is there any way to get the media keys (volume up, volume down, play/pause, stop, etc.) on a keyboard working?
[08:12] <FirstStrike> i have a logitech keyboard
[08:12] <JhonnyB> there show me few files to download
[08:12] <ashik> Warbo: whenever i try to install build-essential it come up with error that the package is missing of obsolete
[08:12] <joe_> Acid___, i used the seveay thing, it's in the ati guide, which installs the latest off ati.com i believe
[08:12] <thoreauputic> LJHarb: If I Remember Correctly
[08:12] <the_mook> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238395
[08:12] <eggzeck> FirstStrike: I don't know about logitech, but mine work
[08:12] <CokeNCode> oh k
[08:12] <CokeNCode> screw this
[08:12] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Get the "dapper" 32bit x86 PC desktop CD :)
[08:12] <CokeNCode> i'm loading on lamp
[08:12] <FirstStrike> hmm
[08:12] <Acid___> joe_: ok that the reason why it failed i think
[08:13] <Acid___> joe_: the ubuntu kernel is specific
[08:13] <FirstStrike> do they work with xmms eggzeck?
[08:13] <joe_> Acid___, it'd probably be more painless if i used the ubuntu one, but it doesnt support tv out or anything cool like that
[08:13] <thoreauputic> ashik: the sources.list is wrong then
[08:13] <trygg> Anyone have any clue what i should check first?
[08:13] <JhonnyB> can u tell me the link warbo plz
[08:13] <Warbo> ashik: Maybe your sources are wrong? See if apt-get update fails
[08:13] <Acid___> joe_: ok :
[08:13] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Hang on, my browser decided to open on a different set of desktops......
[08:13] <eggzeck> joe_: Is your 3D Acceleration working properly?
[08:13] <JhonnyB> ok warbo
[08:13] <Mportnoy> any guide to install nagios on Ubuntu ?
[08:14] <th1a> Warbo: He says that apt-get update works.
[08:14] <Warbo> http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[08:14] <th1a> Or at least appears to.
[08:14] <JhonnyB> thanx warbo
[08:14] <Warbo> Ooo, 6.06.1, never tried that
[08:14] <anjin_> Hello all
[08:14] <joe_> eggzeck, nope, 125fps in glxgears
[08:15] <Warbo> Maybe sources work, but are not the right ones? Check against !easysource maybe
[08:15] <JhonnyB> geez its too big, im on wireless internet
[08:15] <ashik> warbo: well apt-get update work
[08:15] <jontec> I need to boot from usb device, however I need to be able to use my cd .iso file :D
[08:15] <jontec> any help?
[08:15] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Ah. There isn't really a small Ubuntu CD :9
[08:15] <Warbo> * :(
[08:15] <anjin_> Can somebody give me a hand?  I'm using Dapper as a file server for all the other PCs in the house.  I want to set permissions properly so that another pc will hsve to login with a user/pass.  How can I do this? (preferrably with a GUI, but CLI is ok too if it works)
[08:15] <thoreauputic> ashik: if you can't install build-essential then your /etc/apt/sources.list is definitely *wrong*
[08:16] <JhonnyB> ok dont worry
[08:16] <thoreauputic> ashik: fix that first
[08:16] <phoenix198> Hi, anyone know where I can get linux-kbuild packages?
[08:16] <JhonnyB> ill get on dsl and dl it and burn on cd
[08:16] <JhonnyB> then i can get back to u
[08:16] <eggzeck> joe_: I had problems with Ubuntus default driver, especially when testing ET (Enemy Territory), the 3D was choppy and couldn't play correctly. Not that I'm a gamer, just like to play sometimes. I did get fglrx working though, but I had to replace a file called "libGL.so.1.2"
[08:16] <Warbo> JhonnyB: You MAY get away with an Ubutnu package of debootstrap on another Debain based CD, like Knoppix (if you already have that)
[08:16] <Warbo> JhonnyB: OK. better off with Ubuntu over DSL
[08:17] <JhonnyB> yeh ill dl it
[08:17] <thoreauputic> !easysource > ashik
[08:17] <anjin_> i want read, wrote and execute, so even my XP boxes can see, delete, move, edit, etc...
[08:17] <AngryElf> how do i make a link to an URL and stick it on my desktop?
[08:17] <JhonnyB> when can i see u? , coz i need some time to get on dsl and dl it
[08:17] <Warbo> jontec: Use your CD .iso file? How do you mean?
[08:17] <eggzeck> joe_: What type of ATI is it? I have a Radeon 9250 on this system
[08:18] <anjin_> ?
[08:18] <Warbo> JhonnyB: I am in here quite a bit, since I have nothing much to do until I'm off to Uni :)
[08:18] <JhonnyB> ahhh
[08:18] <JhonnyB> where u from warbo?
[08:18] <PFA> can someone tell me how to set my comp to shut down at midnight?
[08:18] <Warbo> UK
[08:18] <JhonnyB> cool, im from australia
[08:18] <anjin_> Can someody help?
[08:18] <Warbo> PFA: Check out CRON, or maybe install gnome-schedule (an easy interface)
[08:18] <jontec> warbo: I saw something on the debian site... it allowed you to use a boot floppy to boot from usb. You wrote a .img file to your floppy and on your usb drive dropped some files and an .iso image.
[08:19] <PFA> Warbo: i've checked out CRON; that's the problem
[08:19] <Acid___> jontec: if the acceleration does not work, it's probably because the xorg driver is not placed at the good place
[08:19] <grte> PFA: You'll have to add the command shutdown -h now to your crontab for 12 o'clock each night.
[08:19] <Acid___> raah
[08:19] <Acid___> jontec: it was for joe_
[08:19] <JhonnyB> is it ok for u to exchange email or somethin warbo so that i can contact u?
[08:19] <grte> I can't remember the syntax, but if you google it, you should find a howto that'll guide you through it.
[08:19] <JhonnyB> or msn
[08:19] <Warbo> jontec: Ah, yes. Booting a proper Ubuntu install can't use a floppy in my experience, since the initrd.img and vmlinuz don't fit on a floppy. I make my own boot CDs for USB
[08:19] <Warbo> JhonnyB: I suppose so
[08:20] <JhonnyB> u have msn messenger?
[08:20] <jontec> warbo: T_T my laptop's cd drive works like 15-30% of the time. if it feels like it.
[08:20] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Did you get my PM?
[08:20] <JhonnyB> yesss
[08:20] <trygg> What does 'ALSA: underrun, at least 0ms.' mean?
[08:20] <Jbirk> Hi
[08:20] <ashik> thoreauputic: how can I prepare my source.list file
[08:20] <Jbirk> How can I mount my digital camera on ubuntu?
[08:20] <joe_> Acid___, can you be more specific?
[08:20] <Jbirk> It says, A camera has been detected
[08:21] <Jbirk> But I want to instead mount it as a drive letter
[08:21] <thoreauputic> ashik: go to the URL that ubotu sent you in pm and follow the instructions
[08:21] <Jbirk> Sorry I want to mount it as a drive.  AKA like a flash drive
[08:21] <PFA> grte: pardon me, but what's a crontab? T_T (yes, i read the man page; it makes no sense to me)
[08:21] <grte> Well, at any rate, this is the first time /I've/ had it, so I'm suitably pleased.
[08:21] <grte> Oops, wrong window.
[08:21] <Ademan> crontab is a scheduler app isnt it?
[08:21] <Acid___> joe_: try to locate fglrx in your system
[08:21] <Acid___> joe_: in order to find the xorg driver
[08:21] <grte> PFA: Crontab is just sort of a file that lists commands to be executed at specified times.
[08:22] <PFA> grte: so i find this file and edit it?
[08:22] <grte> PFA: No, there's an actual command that will let you do it, though I don't remember it.
[08:22] <PFA> oh
[08:22] <grte> Like I said, if you google for it, or even search the forums, you'll find a howto.
[08:22] <grte> I'll even take a quick look, I seem to remember one that helped me a lot...
[08:22] <joe_> Acid___, the driver is the fglrx.ko file right?
[08:22] <trpr11> PFA: try crontab -e
[08:22] <Ademan> warbo: i'm https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official  here and i can't find the font
[08:23] <PFA> wtf??
[08:23] <Acid___> joe_: yes
[08:23] <Acid___> joe_: but not the kernel module
[08:23] <PFA> okay, i'm running gnome-schedule and the terminal is repeatedly outputting "no crontab for elizabeth"
[08:23] <miq> hi, i have 6.06 installed, how do i upgrade to 6.06.1?
[08:23] <trpr11> PFA: opens an editor.. empty file.. look at /etc/crontab for example syntax
[08:23] <grte> miq: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:23] <Acid___> miq: apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:24] <warlock> how do I change the hostname of the server again?
[08:24] <trpr11> PFA: or that damned man file, which is no easy way to figure out what the heck to do with it
[08:24] <SillyZ> q; installation of ubuntu via cd-rom less machine....
[08:24] <JhonnyB> tanx everybody and warbo!, see u guyz later
[08:24] <grte> PFA: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=102625&highlight=crontab - Check that out.
[08:24] <Warbo> Ademan: apparently: sudo apt-get install ttf-ubuntu-title
[08:25] <kozhy>  :O
[08:25] <grte> And basically, just follow the instructions to create a schedule, and include the command "shutdown -h now"
[08:25] <Warbo> !info gnome-schedule
[08:25] <ubotu> gnome-schedule: GNOME scheduler for automatic tasks. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 507 kB, installed size 3708 kB
[08:25] <eternalswd> SillyZ, what does it have?
[08:25] <Warbo> Much easier. I use it to get my Yahoo mail
[08:25] <Ademan> Warbo: thanks
[08:25] <miq> Acid___: hmmm, it does not fetch any new packages, but my gnome is still 2.14.1
[08:25] <Acid___> joe_: sorry, the driver is the fglrx_drv.so
[08:25] <PFA> grte: thanks
[08:25] <SillyZ> gateway solo 5300, piii-750, 256mb ram, 100gb drive w/ 8mb cache
[08:25] <grte> No problem.
[08:26] <warlock> Does anyone know how to change the hostname, when you login into ssh, like warlock@thehostname:
[08:26] <Jbirk> Sorry
[08:26] <Jbirk> how do I mount my camera?
[08:26] <grte> Creating a crontab like in the guide may solve your gnome-schedule problem, as well.
[08:26] <Acid___> joe_: i'm tired this morning :)
[08:26] <Jbirk> I think you would like webmin
[08:26] <Jbirk> You can configure cron through it
[08:26] <eternalswd> SillyZ, does it have a zip drive or something like that?
[08:26] <SillyZ> would like toinstall ubuntu like over the network but dont see any bootdisks for such an operation
[08:26] <joe_> Acid___, /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
[08:26] <PFA> grte: if im in crontab -e and it creates a new file automatically will it save in the right place?
[08:26] <SillyZ> it can have a parrallel zip250 but cant boot off it
[08:26] <athlon> how do I tell mysql to store database in another directory (that is another partitition), if I change my.cnf to use /target/dir as datadir, I'll need to initialize new tables with mysql_install_db which screws mysql
[08:27] <Acid___> joe_: then locate dri
[08:27] <verbose> PFA: yes
[08:27] <PFA> verbose: thanks
[08:27] <joe_> Acid___, locate dri spit a ton out :)
[08:27] <grte> PFA: Yes.
[08:27] <verbose> athlon: mysqldump and then restore it in the new location
[08:28] <Acid___> joe_: fglrx_dri.so
[08:28] <SillyZ> should i just pull the drive out of the laptop, set it up on another box ( 2.5 -> 3.5 converter ) then move the driveback once the installation is complete?
[08:28] <eternalswd> SillyZ, check out http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[08:28] <SillyZ> loading.....
[08:28] <jme> so, the upgrade to 6.06.1 is more or less automatic, right?
[08:28] <athlon> verbose: thanks
[08:28] <FirstStrike> jme: yes
[08:28] <PFA> okay one last question: if i use a 0 do i use one or two?
[08:28] <joe_> Acid___, /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so
[08:29] <verbose> PFA: one is fine...2 should be but one is standard
[08:29] <Acid___> joe_: have you the ubuntu packages installed on your system (restricted modules, xorg-driver-fglrx) ?
[08:29] <PFA> verbose: thanks <3
[08:29] <joe_> Acid___, yeah, i'm sure they are
[08:29] <Acid___> joe_: so you should remove them
[08:30] <SillyZ> eternalswd so im gonna need a fully up and running installation of ubuntu before im every going to get to the PXE boot
[08:30] <Acid___> joe_: because i don't know if the files you are giving me are those from the ati binary installer
[08:30] <rredd4> I get this message a lot in dmesg.  Can it be fixed?    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20950
[08:30] <grte> PFA: Two.
[08:30] <Acid___> joe_: or the ubuntu packages
[08:30] <athlon> verbose: I have dumped the database using "mysqldump -A --create-options > dump.sql" how do I restore them in the new directory ?
[08:31] <PFA> grte, thanks
[08:31] <Acid___> joe_: then reinstall in a shell the binary driver
[08:31] <grte> No problem.
[08:31] <Jbirk> How can I restart X?
[08:31] <Jbirk> from the terminal
[08:31] <Jbirk> it is frozen
[08:31] <Jbirk> I can ssh in
[08:31] <FirstStrike> just ctrl + alt + backspace
[08:31] <grte> Jbirk: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:31] <FirstStrike> oh
[08:31] <FirstStrike> from terminal :>
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> So I'm reading through this Indiana education stuff, and they make a good point that teachers should be able to check each workstation through VNC to monitor internet usage and the like as necessary.  Is anyone aware of an app that would allow you to have a grid of squares representing each of the workstations that would show a thumbnail of VNC images (maybe updated only every few seconds to save bandwidth), that once a t
[08:32] <trpr11> Jbirk: kills its process. killall -9 Xorg maybe
[08:32] <bimberi_> Jbirk: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[08:32] <Mportnoy> how can I make a .deb package ?
[08:32] <Aurorius> crap, can't open my synaptic --> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:32] <eternalswd> SillyZ, what OS are you going to try installing it from?
[08:32] <Aurorius> anyone can help ?
[08:32] <grte> Mportnoy: With checkinstall.
[08:32] <Mportnoy> where do I read ?
[08:32] <SillyZ> well was hoping to dual boot b/t win2k an ubuntu for migration purposes
[08:32] <grte> Basically, you get the source, ./configure and make, as normal, but instead of make install, you use checkinstall, and if you're lucky it works and makes a deb.
[08:32] <jontec> warbo still here?
[08:32] <grte> Mportnoy: man checkinstall
[08:33] <AlienX> anyone know of an "easy to use" latex editor?
[08:33] <bimberi_> !checkinstall
[08:33] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page.
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> Mportnoy: The Debian New Maintainers guide is installed on the system somewhere - I'll see if I can find it.
[08:33] <thoreauputic> AlienX: lyx
[08:33] <SillyZ> seriously considering pulling the drive moving it to the big box here with a 2.5" to 3.5" converter, install ubuntu since its a .i386 kernel anyway, and then moving it back once the install is complete
[08:33] <Jbirk> the screen on my laptop is frozen
[08:33] <verbose> athlon: mysql -u <user> -p <database> < dump.sql
[08:33] <Jbirk> now that I killed it
[08:33] <Jbirk> but I have no prompt on it
[08:34] <AlienX> thoreauputic, thanks, i'll check it out
[08:34] <Jbirk> Basically, it is like I have no shell at all
[08:34] <Jbirk> Just a frozen computer
[08:34] <Jbirk> but ssh is workign fine
[08:34] <grte> By the way, since installing compiz, my alt+tab no longer works.  Like, it'll do it's thing, show the snapshot of the apps running and scroll through them, but when I try to actually select one, it just goes back to the original app.
[08:34] <grte> Anyone else experienced this?
[08:34] <thoreauputic> AlienX: it's "different" - make sure you read the help ( which is very good)
[08:34] <ashik> thoreauputic: thanks  u were right
[08:34] <thoreauputic> ashik: :)
[08:35] <Jbirk> okay
[08:35] <Jbirk> well that sucks
[08:35] <thoreauputic> ashik: working OK now ?
[08:35] <Jbirk> my screen doesn't show anything
[08:35] <SillyZ> is 6.06.1 considered stable or devel
[08:35] <Aurorius> can't open my synaptic --> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, anyone ?
[08:35] <Jbirk> time for teh reboot?
[08:35] <bimberi_> Jbirk: ctrl-alt-f2  ??
[08:35] <thoreauputic> SillyZ: 6.06.1 is just a fully updated 6.06
[08:35] <ashik> Warbo: wow u people are so helpful
[08:35] <Jbirk> nope
[08:35] <SillyZ> k thanks thoreauputic
[08:35] <ashik> thoreauputic: yes
[08:35] <grte> Yeah...It's stable.
[08:35] <Jbirk> SSH no longer works
[08:35] <Jbirk> I did sudo init 1
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> Mportnoy: Or I thought is was...anyway, that's what you're looking for.
[08:35] <bimberi_> Jbirk: :(
[08:35] <Jbirk> only problem is I am in run level 1
[08:36] <wefwef> i tried install now and it stops somewhere while setup, and says  "process respawning too fast paused for 5 minutes"
[08:36] <Jbirk> but my screen has a non fuctional desktop
[08:36] <Jbirk> time for a reboot
[08:36] <rredd4> I get "cpufreq change failed with new_state 1 and result 0"  and  "psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte  1" a lot in dapper... can this be fixed?
[08:36] <rredd4> dmesg
[08:36] <Warbo> What do I need to install/run in order to offer a DHCP server? I want to bridge two connections, and so far I am using Firestarter for IP masquerading
[08:36] <eternalswd> SillyZ, is there an OS on it currently or is it blank?
[08:36] <thoreauputic> Jbirk: ssh won't work in runlevel 1 IIRC ( no networking in runlevel 1)
[08:37] <Aurorius> can't open my synaptic --> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, anyone ?
[08:37] <verbose> Aurorius: have you google's that?
[08:37] <jack|ass> Anyone set up a multihomed Ubuntu box?  I'm doing something wrong that's resulting in me getting two default gateways.
[08:37] <Jbirk> what do you mean multihomed?
[08:37] <Aurorius> jack|ass: tried.. but maybe i'm using wrong keyword
[08:37] <Jbirk> do you mean 2 nics?
[08:37] <wefwef> help i get this error on setup : "process respawinging too fast paused for 5 minutes"
[08:37] <Jbirk> Well I rebooted
[08:37] <Jbirk> all is well now
[08:37] <Aurorius> i'm still searching
[08:37] <verbose> jack|ass: what do you mean by having 2 default gateways?
[08:37] <Acid___> Aurorius: sudo apt-get install libvte4
[08:37] <verbose> Jbirk: that's what multihomed means
[08:38] <Warbo> I think he moves his machine between multiple locations and doesn't want to start from scratch at each
[08:38] <jack|ass> verbose: i bring up the second nic and it route shows two default routes and then one nic cannot receive traffic.
[08:38] <Aurorius> whoops.. just found one in the forum
[08:38] <Jbirk> In that case, I have a multihoned system
[08:38] <eternalswd> SillyZ, if you have Windows currently installed on the machine, you could try going to http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html
[08:38] <Jbirk> My laptop has a Wireless Nic and a Wired nic
[08:38] <verbose> Jbirk: it actually says default in 2 rows?
[08:38] <jack|ass> Jbirk: come to think of it, i guess my laptop fits the description too.  This is on a serve, however. :)
[08:39] <wefwef> anyone help ??  i get error on setup "process respawning too fast paused for 5 minutes"
[08:39] <Jbirk> I bet this method uses PXE
[08:39] <Jbirk> for installing linux over a network
[08:39] <Jbirk> It is awsome
[08:39] <Jbirk> I boot linux every day at work from PXE
[08:39] <NickGarvey> pxe is pretty sweet
[08:39] <Jbirk> Very
[08:39] <Jbirk> We run Novell/ZENWorks
[08:39] <jontec> First question: is the card that you insert into a laptop called a PCMIA card? Second question, independent from the first: Would 5.10 installation detect my laptop ethernet card (you slide it into the slot) as a firewire device
[08:39] <Jbirk> and for imaging we PXE boot
[08:39] <Jbirk> It pulls down a small linux kernel and boots it
[08:39] <verbose> jontec: pcmcia
[08:40] <NickGarvey> :)
[08:40] <Aurorius> Acid___: yours don't work, this one does: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libvte.so.9 /usr/lib/libvte.so.4, but, thanks for your attention
[08:40] <jontec> warbo:If you need to bridge connections then I have written a little something on Kubuntu wiki, but it will work on ubuntu as well I believe :D
[08:40] <verbose> jontec: firewire has a built-in spec called firewire over ethernet
[08:40] <cafuego> Jbirk: Have a look at the 'ltsp' project.
[08:40] <verbose> jontec: the install probably is not seeing your pcmcia ethernet card as a firewire card, but seeing your firewire card as an ethernet card...which is normal
[08:40] <SillyZ> ok heres a stupid one..... whats the default root password on a fresh install ?
[08:40] <Acid___> Aurorius: np
[08:40] <cafuego> Jbirk: Clients pxeboot, mount tiny root via nfs, then tunnel X via ssh back into the main server.
[08:40] <NickGarvey> !root > SillyZ
[08:40] <Jbirk> cafuego:  Where is the ltsp project?
[08:41] <jontec> verbose:okay, thanks. I didn't know that I had a firewire port, though. that's interesting :D
[08:41] <NickGarvey> SillyZ: your user password is used for sudo, whereas the root acc is looked (read the article ubotu sent you for more info)
[08:41] <cafuego> Jbirk: http://www.ltsp.org/
[08:41] <SillyZ> ya i know how to run sudo NickGarvey... dosent do anygood if y dont know the password
[08:41] <cafuego> For a one-stop setup, try 'Edubuntu.
[08:41] <jontec> warbo: oh, the wiki?
[08:41] <wefwef> please help i get error on setup ubuntu 6.06 desktop, "process respawning too fast paused for 5 minutes" ???
[08:41] <verbose> jontec: some motherboards have the firewire chipset but the (cheap) manufacturers don't put a port on the machine
[08:41] <NickGarvey> SillyZ: your user password, as I said
[08:41] <SillyZ> wak
[08:41] <SillyZ> k
[08:41] <verbose> jontec: so it's there but unusable
[08:41] <Warbo> All I know is help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubutnu.com
[08:41] <jontec> lol. hp that's me
[08:41] <NickGarvey> :)
[08:42] <Jbirk> cafuego:  Linux Terminal Service Project is awsome.  Nice concept
[08:42] <Jbirk> Only thing I don't like about it is the NFS mounted root
[08:42] <jontec> warbo: https://wiki.kubuntu.com/BridgeCOnnections (lemme check that link)
[08:42] <Jbirk> I think they should PXE down the entire root and mount it in ram
[08:42] <cafuego> Jbirk: Yup. I have a bunch of coloured iMacs netbooting off the amd64 here.
[08:42] <tsumae> please make encouraging comments to the latest osnews.com article ;)
[08:42] <Warbo> OK, it is just wiki.ubuntu.com then :)
[08:42] <Jbirk> cafuego: Picture please.  Would be most awsome
[08:43] <Warbo> Oh no, I didn't see the K :)
[08:43] <cafuego> Jbirk: It doesn't matter, all they run is X; all apps run back on the server.
[08:43] <eternalswd> SillyZ, did you catch the link earlier, if not check out http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html
[08:43] <tsumae> I already contributed a useful few paragraphs to the flamebait article :)
[08:43] <cafuego> Jbirk: I don't have 'em set up atm; not enough space <heh>
[08:43] <Jbirk> cafuego:  Couldn't you run any app on the server you wanted?
[08:43] <cafuego> Jbirk: Yup
[08:43] <jontec> lol
[08:43] <SillyZ> ok last stupid question, wheres the file to change the desktop from gnome to like kde, ie desktop= ?
[08:43] <Mportnoy> How can I run Microsoft Office 2003 on Ubuntu , basically for Outlook 2003?
[08:43] <Jbirk> cafuego:  How long does it take to boot?
[08:44] <jontec> warbo: better link
[08:44] <jontec> https://wiki.kubuntu.com/BridgeConnections
[08:44] <wefwef> please help i get error on setup ubuntu 6.06 desktop, "process respawning too fast paused for 5 minutes" ???
[08:44] <tsumae> Mportnoy: sorry, you can't.
[08:44] <jontec> that one's been checked
[08:44] <NickGarvey> SillyZ: on the log in screen, there should be a "session" option somewhere, use that to change to kde
[08:44] <verbose> Mportnoy: you can use wine
[08:44] <cafuego> Jbirk: The iMacs are pretty slow, but my laptop takes 30 seconds or so after it receives the kernel off the ltsp server.
[08:44] <tsumae> Mportnoy: if you're in the corp environment, set up a windows terminal server and have them TS in to the server
[08:44] <tsumae> Mportnoy: I'm switching my windows based work to ubuntu
[08:44] <jontec> pay attention to the last step though the dhclient if you want your computer on the internet!
[08:44] <tsumae> Mportnoy: servers as well
[08:45] <NickGarvey> Mportnoy: crossover office is designed for taht
[08:45] <Jbirk> tsumae:  That is an awsome idea to setup a LTSP server with RDP
[08:45] <Jbirk> AT work we use terminial servers sometimes
[08:45] <Mportnoy> Wine or crossover which one is better?
[08:45] <Jbirk> with 30 clients
[08:45] <eternalswd> SillyZ, what login manager are you using?
[08:45] <Gun_Smoke> I have 2 CDROM drives.  One automounts when I put a disk in.. Fine.  I can't figure out where to locate the second one.  If it's even recognized at all on the system any ideas?
[08:45] <cafuego> Jbirk: No reason the clienst can't run rdp (or vnc)
[08:45] <Jbirk> Each computer has Windows XP and a licence that is probalby unecessary
[08:45] <NickGarvey> Mportnoy: crossover, but its not free
[08:45] <cafuego> Jbirk: When testing, I had an iMac booting off an ltsp server in vmware, using rdp to control another vmware guest running WinXP.
[08:45] <Jbirk> I would say they wasted about $3000 bucks buying XP
[08:46] <NickGarvey> 40 bucks
[08:46] <SillyZ> intresting, no KDE option in the selection for session menu
[08:46] <Jbirk> HOw challenging is it to setup LTSP?
[08:46] <Aurorius> a question, after telling XChat-GNOME, to have a transparent, I can't open XChat anymore, but i can run it using sudo
[08:46] <tsumae> Jbirk: I'm moving 5 underused windows servers to 1 server. Linux as the base OS, then running vmware instances for the PDC, and a windows 2k3 install which will house the 4 other underused servers. The hardware is a dual xeon 2.0GHz with 4 gigs of ram, 4 73GB SCSI ultra320 drives, and 2 36GB ultra320 drives
[08:46] <cafuego> Jbirk: With only x86 clients, 1 on a scale of 0 to 10.
[08:47] <eternalswd> SillyZ, are you using gdm, if so you may need to edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom
[08:47] <NickGarvey> 4 gigs of ram.. thats more than is in my entire house..
[08:47] <wefwef> please help i get error on setup ubuntu 6.06 desktop, "process respawning too fast paused for 5 minutes" ???
[08:47] <tsumae> NickGarvey: I can have up to 12GB
[08:47] <cafuego> Jbirk: i used edubuntu, it does it all for you, all you do is setup the dhcp server to spit out the tftp server address
[08:47] <NickGarvey> tsumae: heh nice
[08:47] <fiendskull9> hey
[08:47] <pontifex> cafuego: edubutu does tftp out of the box?
[08:47] <jontec> crap. 5.10 won't let me continue without a network interface?
[08:47] <tsumae> NickaNicka: Dell PowerEdge 2600 is a nice machine, 100% linux compatible
[08:47] <Jbirk> edubuntu is what?  Server hosting the LTSP
[08:48] <NickGarvey> tsumae: was it much?
[08:48] <fiendskull9> im trying to install java JRE from ssh shell for my friend
[08:48] <Jbirk> I did that a few weeks ago
[08:48] <Jbirk> IT coems with java
[08:48] <Jbirk> but you want sun java
[08:48] <Jbirk> right?
[08:48] <cafuego> tsumae: Are you aware of http://www.platespin.com/  ?
[08:48] <cafuego> pontifex: yah
[08:48] <fiendskull9> Jbirk, yeah
[08:48] <Jbirk> Try this
[08:48] <Jbirk> let me find my command history
[08:48] <tsumae> NickGarvey: I'm not sure, the tech before me bought the machine. The past tech/admins were uneducated on how to use servers and balance applications
[08:48] <Jbirk> one second
[08:48] <Jbirk> java -version
[08:48] <cafuego> pontifex: It's not at all hard to set it up by hand anyway
[08:48] <pontifex> cafuego: nice
[08:48] <Jbirk> to find your current version
[08:49] <NickGarvey> :)
[08:49] <tsumae> cafuego: I've never seen it
[08:49] <fiendskull9> java version "1.4.2"
[08:49] <fiendskull9> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)
[08:49] <thoreauputic> !java > fiendskull9
[08:49] <Jbirk> apt-get install make-jpkg
[08:49] <Jbirk> oops
[08:49] <Jbirk> wrong pkg
[08:49] <thoreauputic> Jbirk: no need, sun java is in multiverse now
[08:49] <Jbirk> apt-get install sun-java
[08:49] <wefwef> please help i get error on setup ubuntu 6.06 desktop, "process respawning too fast paused for 5 minutes" ???
[08:50] <Jbirk> Just activeate the multiverse
[08:50] <Jbirk> adn isntall sun-java
[08:50] <Jbirk> sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun
[08:50] <Jbirk> that will set teh presidence
[08:50] <cafuego> tsumae: Tell it the vmware server password and the windows server credentials for the boxc that needs to be migrated. Wait. Switch off windows, boot vm :-)
[08:50] <Jbirk> now java -version shows sun java
[08:51] <cafuego> tsumae: Costs an arm and a leg though.
[08:51] <Jbirk> vi /etc/jvm
[08:51] <Jbirk> and move sun to the top
[08:51] <tsumae> cafuego: oh my.. god.
[08:51] <Jbirk> or use the gui text editor
[08:51] <tsumae> cafuego: really cool product :D
[08:51] <Jbirk> you will have to chmod o+w to be able to write to it
[08:51] <Jbirk> but remember to o-w when done
[08:51] <Jbirk> that is safer than running the gui editor as root
[08:52] <thoreauputic> Jbirk: all that is unnecessary - you use  sudo update-alternatives --config java after installing java an that's it
[08:52] <tsumae> cafuego: I have to move it by hand however, because I'm merging 4 windows 2k servers in to 1. The admins in the past put a server up for each sql application
[08:52] <tsumae> then the PDC.. I'm redoing it
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[08:52] <fiendskull9> anybody know a good amd64 sources.list
[08:52] <tsumae> it has.. exchange 5.5 installed currently...
[08:52] <cafuego> To be fair, that's the safest option with ms sql anyway.
[08:53] <tsumae> cafuego: yeah :)
[08:53] <jontec> something tell me that if the detect hardware step fails, then something is not going to work correctly?
[08:53] <cafuego> fiendskull9: I find it best for a desktop to run the 32bit version on one.
[08:53] <wefwef> please help i get error on setup ubuntu 6.06 desktop, "process respawning too fast paused for 5 minutes" ??? *help*
[08:53] <eternalswd> fiendskull9, for doing what?
[08:53] <tsumae> cafuego: FundWare is not a very good or stable application. I've to move the dbs and function defs by hand
[08:53] <tsumae> oops, not fundware, I mean TxMS
[08:53] <cafuego> ugh
[08:53] <cafuego> ugh squared
[08:53] <eternalswd> fiendskull9, rather for installing what?
[08:53] <fiendskull9> he has an amd64 cpu, so will any sources list work?
[08:53] <tsumae> Fundware is simple compared to the horror of what is TxMS
[08:53] <fiendskull9> im doing the java installation
[08:54] <fiendskull9> and its saying it cant find the packages
[08:54] <fiendskull9> but i dont have multiverse enabled
[08:54] <fiendskull9> and i saw some amd64 guys had problems
[08:54] <SillyZ> how well is the partitioning tool in the ubuntu install about resizing an ntfs partition?
[08:54] <NickGarvey> amd64 and java do not play nice
[08:54] <NickGarvey> not at all
[08:54] <verbose> SillyZ: it worked for me but i wouldn't use it on critical data
[08:54] <cafuego> fiendskull9: The standard amd64 soruces.list will be fine, but some packages simply don't exist for amd64.
[08:54] <btrento> does anyone in here use xfce
[08:54] <SillyZ> eh its just the OS nothing important :D
[08:55] <cafuego> fiendskull9: Mainly java/video/flash is going to be a problem.
[08:55] <fiendskull9> ok
[08:55] <NickGarvey> cafuego: and w32codecs..
[08:55] <fiendskull9> but it emulates 32bit i beleive (like most amd 64 proscessors)
[08:55] <NickGarvey> (cries)
[08:55] <cafuego> NickGarvey: video
[08:55] <NickGarvey> cafuego: oh I was thinking .wma
[08:55] <fiendskull9> as it can uses regular windows as well
[08:55] <o_cee> is there an ubuntu dev channeel?
[08:55] <wefwef> please help i get error on setup ubuntu 6.06 desktop, "process respawning too fast paused for 5 minutes" ???
[08:55] <eternalswd> fiendskull9, maybe check out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537&highlight=java+64
[08:55] <thoreauputic> o_cee: several
[08:56] <NickGarvey> fiendskull9: yes.. but... all of the software in the ubuntu 64 install is 64 bit, and won't work with the 32 bit stuff
[08:56] <fiendskull9> ok\
[08:56] <cafuego> fiendskull9: Yes, but that requires fiddling. I run the x86 32bit version of Ubuntu on my amd64 for this exact reason.
[08:56] <fiendskull9> so he is screwed java wise?
[08:56] <o_cee> thoreauputic: got an error when upgrading to edgy, thought i'd mention it to someone
[08:56] <NickGarvey> and I run suse 64 bit which is dual arch :)
[08:56] <thoreauputic> o_cee: #ubuntu-devel, #ubuntu-motu
[08:56] <verbose> yeah, i kind of wish i'd used i386 instead of amd64 on one of my  boxes
[08:56] <o_cee> thoreauputic: thank you
[08:56] <fiendskull9> he just wants to run frostwire
[08:56] <cafuego> fiendskull9: If he wants the java browser plugin and not waste an hour setting up a chroot, then yes.
[08:56] <thoreauputic> o_cee: bug reports on launchpad.net
[08:57] <fiendskull9> is blackdown 64 friendly?
[08:57] <cafuego> verbose: THis is why we split off /home :-)
[08:57] <cafuego> fiendskull9: sun.com have an amd64 jre
[08:57] <verbose> cafuego: yea, i'm just too lazy to bring the system down and reinstall :P
[08:57] <jontec> I never did get blackdown to work... T_T save yourself the pain!
[08:57] <cafuego> fiendskull9: Just make sure you fetch the .bin, not the .bin.rpm.
[08:57] <fiendskull9> thanks captain obvious :P
[08:57] <fiendskull9> im not stupid
[08:58] <fiendskull9> im just not skilled in setting up java through ssh
[08:58] <cafuego> verbose: I specifically make 2x10Gb of /  plus a /home .. so I can boot/run either and still run the 32bit install as chroot under the 64bit one.
[08:58] <cafuego> fiendskull9: Some ppl get it wrong, you'd be amazed :-)
[08:58] <jontec> hmm... gimme a sec.
[08:58] <eternalswd> fiendskull9, in case you didn't see check out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537&highlight=java+64
[08:58] <jontec> there's a book mark that I have for the one stop dapper shop
[08:59] <verbose> cafuego: cool
[08:59] <fiendskull9> my brother got on my linux box once, and spent an hour trying to install the aim windows binary
[08:59] <i3dmaster> .themes
[08:59] <jontec> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[08:59] <jontec> good page *nods*
[09:00] <verbose> fiendskull9: an hour? that should take like 10 minutes max...and that's if everything goes wrong
[09:00] <jontec> so who is the one that's doing ssh? use that page. it is a god.
[09:00] <jontec> if you're the one doing java see...
[09:00] <jontec> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[09:00] <fiendskull9> he also asked where internet explorer was
[09:00] <jontec> that bookmark/anchor
[09:01] <eternalswd> fiendskull9,I must say, that's pretty funny lol
[09:01] <fiendskull9> yah
[09:01] <fiendskull9> lol
[09:01] <fiendskull9> i was tempted to rename dillo to Internet explorer
[09:01] <btrento> does anyone know away to make the desktop gnome icons not show up in xfce?
[09:02] <eternalswd> granted I have IE through wine for those darn IE only sites and for development purposes
[09:02] <fiendskull9> btrento, did you install xubuntu-desktop, or do the manual xfce adventure?
[09:02] <NickGarvey> eternalswd: how did you get IE working? I couldn't
[09:02] <Ari1> Hey, is there a way to mount NTFS with rw
[09:02] <eternalswd> google ie4linux
[09:02] <fiendskull9> Ari1, yes, but its dangerous
[09:03] <eggzeck> Man, I wonder where's joe_, I was helping him with an ATI problem, and he never returned :/
[09:03] <Ari1> Well, my XP caught a virus, and I know the causes,
[09:03] <Ari1> and I'm on a live CD of ubuntu
[09:03] <btrento> fiendskull9, i installed xubuntu-desktop
[09:03] <Ari1> to try and remove it
[09:03] <Jbirk> why is it dangerous to rw to ntfs?
[09:03] <fiendskull9> btrento, hmmm, it shoudlnt have that problem then
[09:03] <jontec> microsoft? microsoft is most definitely the cause for all viruses. on windows, that is.
[09:03] <Hagbarddenstore> Hey! How do I do su user and then not getting a Write password instead i write it all like this: su user password ? is that possible???
[09:03] <jontec> it's a conspiracy I say! (just joking) too many security holes :D
[09:03] <fiendskull9> Jbirk, you can screw up your ntfs partition putting a file on it
[09:03] <Ari1> Yeah
[09:04] <Ari1> But still
[09:04] <Ari1> Oh.
[09:04] <Ari1> That's not good
[09:04] <Ari1> Hmmf
[09:04] <Ari1> I'll just try safe mode
[09:04] <Hagbarddenstore> Hey! Anyone that can be helpful?
[09:04] <Ari1> ttyl
[09:04] <eternalswd> Aril, try using clamwin in safemode
[09:04] <Jbirk> how does writing a file from linux to an NTFS partiton mess up the filesystem?
[09:04] <thoreauputic> !patience
[09:04] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:04] <btrento> fiendskull9, i know that it does the same with kubuntu
[09:04] <Jbirk> Does Linux just not understand NTFS?
[09:04] <jontec> I did ntfs. A little prayer and be VERY CAREFUL. Especially if you do not have a backup cd of windows.
[09:04] <wefwef> HELP HELP HELP i get error on install "* Id "1" respawning to fast: disabled for 5 minutes".... does never end!!!!
[09:04] <jontec> I didn't. I was lucky
[09:04] <Papageno> Which would work better on legacy laptop hardware: Ubuntu or Fedora Core?
[09:04] <verbose> Jbirk: ntfs write support is beta
[09:04] <RalleAb> Hello Guys! I was wondering if it is possible to set the Idle Frequency on my centrino processor to less than the standard of 600 ?
[09:05] <verbose> Jbirk: which just means that things /could/ go wrong
[09:05] <Jbirk> what version of linux supports write?
[09:05] <verbose> Jbirk: people write to ntfs all the time without problems in linux, myself included
[09:05] <Hagbarddenstore> Aaah.... Typicall for this channel... You can't get any sign of life or that you have been noticed... this channel sucks if you wanna ahve help...
[09:05] <fiendskull9> btrento, ubuntu to kubuntu is a bitch
[09:05] <wefwef> in the forums are no answers to threads about "* Id "1" respawning to fast: disabled for 5 minutes"  why noone help please come on ???
[09:06] <fiendskull9> because gnome makes those tiny backup files with the ~
[09:06] <Jbirk> verbose:  Please tell me how
[09:06] <verbose> Jbirk: 2.6 kernels have limited write support
[09:06] <thoreauputic> Hagbarddenstore: if you want help, try not bagging the volunteers in the channel
[09:06] <Jbirk> Please tell me how to enable it
[09:06] <verbose> Jbirk: look at ntfs-3g
[09:06] <Jbirk> Is that a package?
[09:06] <verbose> Jbirk: i'm not sure if there's a package yet
[09:07] <wefwef> come on PLEASE help someone * Id "1" respawning to fast: disabled for 5 minutes error
[09:07] <jontec> dangit. why won't it detect my hardware. THAT IS THE ONLY STEP! T_T
[09:07] <Alpha232> yeah i know its bad ircing as root lol but what the heck, its only a virtual machine
[09:07] <eternalswd> fiendskull9, I hate those ~ backup files, but love them at the same time, saved my butt from time to time but annoying nonetheless
[09:07] <verbose> Jbirk: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23836054&forum_id=2697
[09:07] <RalleAb> !centrino
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about centrino - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <jontec> though I am fairly surprised that I actuallly got this to work
[09:07] <Flannel> Hagbarddenstore: why are you enabling root?
[09:07] <RalleAb> !cpu
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <Flannel> RalleAb: centrino is a x86
[09:07] <wefwef> that sucks ...
[09:07] <Alpha232> Flannel: i didn't know root was disabled ;)
[09:08] <fiendskull9> eternalswd, i think roxfiler should ignore those, because i use flux all the time, and those gnome files annoy the hell our of me
[09:08] <Flannel> Alpha232: yep.  Ubuntu uses sudo instead
[09:08] <thoreauputic> wefwef: have you tried googling the error ?
[09:08] <wefwef> yes
[09:08] <Hagbarddenstore> Flannel:  Huh? Not gonna enable root... Wanna exec a command as another user... it's su user -c command but i wannaa squeeze in a password to
[09:08] <wefwef> no answers on any thread i found about
[09:08] <Alpha232> Flannel: yeah but root isn't really disabled...  sudo passwd root  works just fine ;)
[09:08] <Hagbarddenstore> so it won't ask for that
[09:08] <Flannel> Hagbarddenstore: sudo not su
[09:09] <eternalswd> fiendskull9, I believe there's an option to disable them, let me look
[09:09] <Flannel> Alpha232: root is disabled by default, you're reenabling it
[09:09] <uniscript> hagbarddenstore: echo passwd > su user ? or will that die out too soon?
[09:09] <Alpha232> Hagbarddenstore: what is it you're really trying to do
[09:09] <Alpha232> uniscript: that wpn't work at all anyways... u need a chat script to do it
[09:10] <Alpha232> uniscript: plus > is redirect you might mean | pipe
[09:10] <Hagbarddenstore> Alpha232:  A PHP thingie... involding changing user to me as i am the only that can do the command
[09:10] <verbose> Hagbarddenstore: you can edit the sudoers file to not require a password...if you want to
[09:10] <wefwef> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205529 ,  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201303 , http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=100758 ... 0 answers :(
[09:10] <Hagbarddenstore> verbose:  No....
[09:10] <Flannel> Hagbarddenstore: -S and then pipe in a file with the password, would do what you want.  Although I'm not sure it's wise
[09:10] <jontec> well screw this. I'll drop a austrumi .iso onto my usb disk :D
[09:10] <Alpha232> hagbarddenstore: and is this running on apache?
[09:10] <jontec> see if that works?
[09:10] <verbose> Hagbarddenstore: or change the sudoers file to allow the php user to run the command
[09:10] <Alpha232> hagbarddenstore: or are you using phpcli
[09:10] <Hagbarddenstore> But there must be so that you can su user and write password directly... just neeed the flag...
[09:10] <Hagbarddenstore> verbose:  Apache
[09:11] <uniscript> Hagbarddenstore: you can even set sudoers so that a particular user can become another user for a particular command only without password
[09:11] <floppyears> hi
[09:11] <Flannel> Hagbarddenstore: Er, what are you doing?
[09:11] <floppyears> does anybody know about rollerblading ?
[09:11] <floppyears> I'm interesting on trying it out
[09:11] <Flannel> floppyears: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:11] <floppyears> sorry for the off-topic
[09:11] <Hagbarddenstore> Flannel:  dcop amarok player next
[09:11] <floppyears> oh, you guys even have an off-topic channel
[09:11] <floppyears> ubuntu+
[09:11] <wefwef> im getting ERROR <<<<<<  * Id "5" respawning to fast: disabled for 5 minutes
[09:11] <wefwef> HELP
[09:11] <Alpha232> hag: and what is the command that only you can run that you want the webserver to run for you?
[09:12] <thoreauputic> !repeat
[09:12] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:12] <Hagbarddenstore> Alpha232:  dcop amarok player next and such...
[09:12] <uniscript> hag: or you can set up a setuid script and mark it group executable with the webserver only in that group
[09:12] <Jbirk> is there any package to install fuse
[09:12] <Jbirk> or the ntfs progra
[09:12] <Alpha232> Uni: GACK suid is EVIL!
[09:12] <Hagbarddenstore> uniscript:  You say what? :S
[09:12] <Jbirk> or do I need to configure and make
[09:12] <limux> hello
[09:12] <NickGarvey> wefwef: I don't understand where that error is from, could you provide more information?
[09:13] <verbose> Jbirk: there is a fuse package
[09:13] <verbose> Jbirk: i believe you have to compile ntfs-3g though
[09:13] <wefwef> NickGarvey: on install
[09:13] <Flannel> Hagbarddenstore: sudo -S is the answer... I suppose
[09:13] <Flannel> Hagbarddenstore: although, I still don't understand exactly what youre trying to do
[09:13] <limux> it's first for me to come to here
[09:13] <NickGarvey> wefwef: where is that error coming from?
[09:13] <fiendskull9> FUCK
[09:13] <Flannel> !language
[09:13] <NickGarvey> !language
[09:13] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:13] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:13] <NickGarvey> Flannel: faster fingers grr
[09:13] <Jbirk> I saw the fuse package
[09:13] <uniscript> limux: just ask away, don't wait. It's a noisy place here today
[09:14] <Jbirk> so I need to do an apt-get install make
[09:14] <verbose> NickGarvey: from here he beat you
[09:14] <Hagbarddenstore> Flannel:  I'm going to do so people (Me) can change my song on amarok from another PC or so... just playing around...
[09:14] <fiendskull9> sorry
[09:14] <NickGarvey> verbose: yeah, he did, grr
[09:14] <Alpha232> hag: and is the command interactive or is it strictly on the command line
[09:14] <fiendskull9> my friend just restarted while i was in the ssh editing his sources.list
[09:14] <Jbirk> then an apt-get install gcc and finally make fuse and install it and then do the same with ntfs
[09:14] <Hagbarddenstore> I can exec as root.. but that's security no-go
[09:14] <wefwef> NickGarvey: after i click install in the boot menue of unbuntu 6.06 desktop, it preocess some drivers and stuff... and then this " * Id "5" respawning to fast: disabled for 5 minutes" and it never ende
[09:14] <iron[w] > good morning
[09:14] <FirstStrike> salut
[09:14] <Jbirk> sounds like a plan for tomorrow
[09:14] <Jbirk> good night
[09:14] <verbose> Jbirk: just do apt-get install build-essential
[09:14] <Jbirk> okay
[09:14] <verbose> Jbirk: it'll install make, gcc, et al
[09:14] <Jbirk> I will do that
[09:14] <NickGarvey> wefwef: have you tried the alternate cd? I find that installer more reliable
[09:14] <uniscript> does anyone know anything about a freetype update that just came out?
[09:15] <Alpha232> hag: so just look up apache php and setuid, it will tell you how to run scripts as the user who owns the webspace.
[09:15] <Jbirk> does fuse and ntfs compile well?
[09:15] <Alpha232> hag: and once setup, all scripts in joeblow's public_html will run as joeblow
[09:15] <verbose> Jbirk: i've never had any problems, but i've only installed it on 2 machines
[09:15] <wefwef> NickGarvey: but the normal install cd should work usually ?
[09:15] <Jbirk> thanks
[09:15] <Jbirk> I will try that tomorrow
[09:16] <Jbirk> I want to mount my USB hard drive
[09:16] <Jbirk> 300 GB NTFS
[09:16] <Jbirk> \
[09:16] <Jbirk> good night
[09:16] <kleedrac> What does it mean if my wireless card connects to the network, gets an IP, but can't ping anything but itself?!  Since I installed (and subsequently removed) suspend2 my system does this 3-4 reboots!
[09:16] <NickGarvey> wefwef: I actually have never used it, but it should
[09:16] <NickGarvey> wefwef: so when I say "I find that installer" I mean "people find that installer" :)
[09:16] <jontec> is there a "server" version of 6.06 on the CDs for lower end computers?
[09:16] <tsumae> can someone please make some constructive comments to the troll story on osnews.com? I'm getting flame broiled by anti-ubuntu trolls.
[09:17] <hume> kleedrac, firewalled?
[09:17] <jontec> like there was on 5.10?
[09:17] <Alpha232> Hagbarddenstore: did you see what I said about setuid and php?
[09:17] <wefwef> NickGarvey: yeh but that dont solves the error :(
[09:17] <Hagbarddenstore> Alpha232:  Yes...
[09:17] <NickGarvey> wefwef: try the alternate cd is my suggestion
[09:17] <thoreauputic> jontec: you can use the "alternate" Cd and type "server" for a minimal install
[09:17] <kleedrac> hume: Not that I've set up but where would I check?  Also the fourth or fifth boot (like now) it just works :P
[09:17] <Alpha232> hag: thats how most ISPs are setup anyways and I think even the default install of apache does but don't quote me on that
[09:17] <wefwef> NickGarvey: the diffrence is that the alternate has no gui install or what ?
[09:18] <thoreauputic> jontec: then you would install a light wm, and x-window-system-core etc as you wish
[09:18] <hume> kleedrac, strange - then it's not a firewall problem
[09:18] <Alpha232> hag: if you want to test that, write a php to do a system() of   whoami or id
[09:18] <RalleAb> I was wondering, what is wrong with this command?: sudo powernowd -l 10
[09:18] <kleedrac> hume: I wasn't sure ... it worked fine before I played with suspend2 and it works great on the fourth or fifth reboots but in between I'm getting the same IP and just can't use it?!
[09:19] <thoreauputic> jontec: by default the "server" install is without X  - there is xubuntu if you like xfce4
[09:19] <J-_> is it easier to use a server as a gateway or standalone server?
[09:19] <Alpha232> J-_: no difference...
[09:19] <J-_> k
[09:19] <jontec> thoreauputic:alternate cd? I don't have an oppurtunity to get my hands on a copy of xubuntu, they don't have it on shipit, do they?
[09:19] <hume> kleedrac, you might get them from cache, not dhcp-host - somtimes wireless modules does not wake up on wake up..) try modprobing the right module
[09:20] <Alpha232> J-_: it depends on if you're going to config it by hand in shell (best way to learn) or use GUI's
[09:20] <Flannel> jontec: the 'server' as in 5.10 is again on the alternate ISO, type 'server' at the prompt
[09:20] <thoreauputic> jontec: ah - you can't download it then? Dialup?
[09:20] <limux> when i "sudo apt-get install jedit", there are some errors
[09:20] <J-_> ah i see
[09:20] <NickGarvey> tsumae: eh, if I had an account I'd comment
[09:20] <kleedrac> Any way to easily figure out which module it's using :) ...
[09:20] <limux> "E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."
[09:20] <tsumae> NickGarvey: well I'm getting -1'ed by trolls
[09:20] <limux> who can help me?
[09:20] <hume> kleedrac, what card is it?
[09:20] <eternalswd> fiendskull9, apparently the ~ backup files are generated by the text editors.  gedit and kwrite each have options to disable it and emacs needs something added to its resource file
[09:21] <limux> i can't do anything.
[09:21] <tsumae> NickGarvey: someone did +1 me, but it was only taken way by a troll.
[09:21] <Alpha232> J-_: what I usually do is Install the regular version, then disable X for runlevel 3, and then setup an alternate entry in my boot loader to have a GUI option and run runlevel 4 or 5
[09:21] <jontec> Flannel, thoreauputic: what are the system requirements for server 6.06, then? Do you know?
[09:21] <wefwef> help its frustrating :( error on install " * Id "5" respawning to fast: disabled for 5 minutes" never ends
[09:21] <Flannel> jontec: nope, I'm still on Breezy
[09:22] <J-_> Alpha232: i'm not that far into linux yet, heh. still learning
[09:22] <thoreauputic> jontec: not off the top of my head - but it should install with 64MB and a P11 I would say
[09:22] <limux> i have ever use dpkg to install a jedit.deb
[09:22] <Alpha232> J-_: or just remove S13gdm from /etc/rc3.d and if you ever need the gui, just run  /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:23] <Alpha232> J-_: well if you're comfortable with the shell then go for it, thats how most admins do it in the real world anyways.
[09:23] <eternalswd> limux, did you make sure the dependencies were met?
[09:23] <rast4> can someone tell me the command to stop/restart Samba
[09:23] <thoreauputic> jontec: If you have an old breezy CD you can use that to do a "server" install, then do a dist-upgrade ( but again, you need some bandwith )
[09:23] <J-_> tried using a clarkconnect server, couldn't really set it up due to either my router or isp, heh. might try out ubuntu's server
[09:23] <rast4> please
[09:23] <jontec> thoreauputic: okay, so it's just server at the prompt? I could type in server when I tried before but enter always chose one of the options on the menu?
[09:23] <kleedrac> hume: Looks like an Atheros ... but now that I'm looking in the Hal Device Manager it's calling it an unknown and I'm sure it used to be known
[09:23] <hume> rast4, sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[09:23] <limux> there is no  dependencies
[09:23] <rast4> ty hume
[09:23] <Flannel> jontec: if you have the alternate ISO (not the desktop) then yeah, just type server at the prompt
[09:23] <jontec> thoreauputic: one sec I'll reply to what you just said
[09:24] <limux> the jedit.deb install failure!
[09:24] <thoreauputic> jontec: you can't do a server install with the Desktop dapper CD
[09:24] <Alpha232> J-_: well ubuntu is pretty easy to setup... and the gui is installed by default... so give it a try...
[09:24] <eternalswd> limux, okay do you have the .deb file?
[09:24] <Alpha232> J-_: i've installed ubuntu 5 times in as many days, but i run it in a Virtual Machine...
[09:24] <thoreauputic> Jonbo: you need either the alternate, or an old breezy CD + dist-upgrade, as I suggested
[09:24] <jontec> thoreauputic: crap. I can't get ubuntu 5.10 to install like I need it to.
[09:24] <limux> yes
[09:24] <Alpha232> J-_: so this unix box  i am on now, is actually running under XP
[09:24] <hume> kleedrac, search google for it, it is not unusual for these modules / cards to crash on suspend. you migh want to rmmod before suspend and modprobe after wake up
[09:25] <thoreauputic> jontec: what are your hardware specs? ram? cpu?
[09:25] <jontec> thoreauputic: I got the installation up from my usb using a boot floppy, but it would give out on hardware detection
[09:25] <limux> jedit_4.3pre6_all.deb
[09:25] <J-_> Alpha232: cool, yeah i just recently switched both machines to linux =D
[09:25] <eternalswd> limux, so you got an error when you did dpkg -i jedit.deb
[09:25] <swei> hello world
[09:25] <limux> yes
[09:25] <kleedrac> hume: That doesn't explain why it takes more than one reboot for it to come back up though :P
[09:25] <swei> Hello World again
[09:25] <swei> fuck you all here
[09:25] <thoreauputic> limux: IIRC jedit requires java ?
[09:26] <rast4> first: what's up dude
[09:26] <jontec> thoreauputic: 64MB ram, 733Mhz cpu (PIII) and... 10G harddrive (but I'm not sure if it's fully operational)
[09:26] <fiendskull9> who was that swei guy?
[09:26] <rast4> FirstStrike
[09:26] <fiendskull9> jontec, run a teamspeak server
[09:26] <FirstStrike> rast4: yo
[09:26] <limux> i have install the j2sdk
[09:26] <rast4> ima calling it an early night tonight
[09:26] <thoreauputic> jontec: should work for a minimal install
[09:26] <rast4> literally exhausted
[09:26] <FirstStrike> did you get the kernel compiled?
[09:26] <Alpha232> J-_: wheee! well my laptop runs XP since I need it for business...  but I do some development work for an ISP so i run a virtual computer under XP for Ubuntu and a few others
[09:26] <jontec> fiendskull9: I don't know what you mean
[09:26] <rast4> my compile failed last night :(
[09:26] <FirstStrike> what did it spit out?
[09:26] <limux> perhaps the deb have a issue
[09:27] <Alpha232> Any iptables gurus about...
[09:27] <fiendskull9> jontec, google for teamspeak, that 700mhz you have there would make a good teamspeak server
[09:27] <rast4> the plug wasn't in so the battery died
[09:27] <rast4> ;)
[09:27] <rast4> I'll try it again tomorrow afternoon
[09:27] <rast4> I'm still working on Samba on the other laptop for now
[09:27] <rast4> gonna crash though, will hit you up tomorrow
[09:27] <rast4> night man
[09:27] <FirstStrike> lol
[09:27] <FirstStrike> cya
[09:28] <Alpha232> rast4: just delete the most recedntly created .o file and restart make, it won't remake files you already have
[09:28] <rast4> alpha232: well that's a relief! thanks
[09:28] <rast4> lol
[09:28] <Alpha232> rast4: it will pick up almost where you left off, unless it died on the linking and it will just restart that
[09:28] <jontec> thoreauputic: it quits on hardware detection step. right after the network hardware step. T_T I think that because it's supposed to be run from a cd it can't detect the hardware properly, though I'm definitely not too sure of my conjecture
[09:28] <J-_> Alpha232: sounds cool, can't wait to get a laptop, going to switch that over to linux once i get one, plus i switched my external drive to ext3 so there would be really no communication between windows and the drive unless i download a driver, or some other unknown way i don't know about =D
[09:28] <rast4> nice man, thanks. That will help HEAPS!
[09:28] <rast4> night everyone
[09:28] <limux> how can  i do?
[09:29] <Alpha232> J-_: Before you do that... make an image of your harddisk
[09:29] <eternalswd> limux, have you installed sun-java
[09:29] <Alpha232> J-_: Laptops are not the most friendly of linux install bases... its called the tradeoff between small form factor and compatability
[09:29] <gilan> Hi, synaptic give an error after this morning update
[09:29] <thoreauputic> jontec: I've never done an install from a USB drive - can't really  help with that, sorry
[09:30] <thoreauputic> !msg
[09:30] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[09:30] <gilan> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared
[09:30] <Alpha232> J-_: I have a Dell C640 and it runs the live ubuntu about 85% well... but no wireless and a few other minor things
[09:30] <jontec> thoreauputic: thanks, though. I'm not even sure if it was supposed to work. I'm using a debian boot floppy that I made... :D
[09:30] <gilan> how to fix this error?
[09:30] <uniscript> limux: sudo deb -i jedit_4.3pre6_all.deb
[09:30] <Alpha232> J-_: once I am able to get everything working on the laptop then i might change my mind and run Windows as a virtual machine under Ubuntu, but that day is far from here
[09:31] <jontec> thoreauputic: I google searched it and got their documentation. The people on debian, who WOULD know about it are being asses.
[09:31] <kleedrac> hume: Looks like it's using ath_pci module ... though the other thing I'm thinking is that if the module isn't being loaded I shouldn't be able to get an IP as it wouldn't see the device at all!
[09:31] <J-_> i already switched my ext. drive over, was a pain in the arse. had to format xp so i had a clean system, backed everything up on that, used my other pc to format my external drive, put the data from xp onto the external drive which is ext3, and formated my xp system to ubuntu
[09:31] <fiendskull9> i use fat32 for my external
[09:31] <jontec> debian channel that is. I should have never mentioned that I used Kubuntu.
 Any iptables gurus about, question/issues with patch-o-matic and tarpit...
[09:32] <Alpha232> J-_> you know ubuntu can read NTFS (the default filesystem for XP) and it could have imaged the harddisk for ya ;0
[09:32] <jontec> thoreauputic: I'm going to try an austrumi boot image as soon as I make it before I go to bed.
[09:32] <RalleAb> does any of your guys know anything about powernowd? when I say: sudo powernowd -l  10           It thinks that I am saying powernowd -h     So I cant set anything
[09:32] <J-_> meh, its' working now. not going through that crap again lol
[09:32] <Alpha232> J-_> linux can image a disk without even being able to read it...
[09:32] <thoreauputic> jontec: heh, #debian is not always friendly with ubuntu users, indeed :)
[09:32] <gilan> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libvte.so.9 /usr/lib/libvte.so.4
[09:33] <eternalswd> limux, it could be a problem with the deb.  you could try the Java installer version at http://www.jedit.org/index.php?page=download  for all operating systems
[09:33] <Alpha232> Thoreauputic: thats because they don't like the fact that our branch has some fun new toys and they are stuckinthemud with sarge
[09:33] <J-_> i have a large sum of data on the hard drive though, 100gb's, and it's a 300gb drive
[09:33] <alienseer23> hello, I am trying to get network manager to work, and while it shows the available (or a few of the available) wireless networks, it keeps trying to log onto mine, and asks me for the key...over and over and over again...help?
[09:33] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: well, asking Ubuntu questions in #debian *is* pretty off-topic :)
[09:33] <eternalswd> limux, and if that doesn't work then it's a problem with your java configuration
[09:33] <Alpha232> J-_> lol i more than half filled my new 320G MyBook with pr0n and w@r3z in less than a month ;0
[09:34] <fiendskull9> my salvation
[09:34] <J-_> yikes
[09:34] <jontec> lol. but it was from their documentation! they should have helped. :D
[09:34] <jontec> even if it was only meant for debian... *looks away*
[09:34] <Alpha232> Thoreauputic: only like asking a hindu about being vegitarian... it relates but not totally in phase
[09:35] <Alpha232> J-_: I was pretty chaffed for a week or two
[09:35] <J-_> heh
[09:35] <thoreauputic> jontec: I used to hang out in #debian - it was kind of fun in a spectator blood sport way ;-)
[09:35] <alienseer23> or..how do I set a static IP unser the network manager ap??
[09:35] <jontec> thoreauputic: hehe. *imagines gladiators*
[09:35] <Alpha232> J-_: shoulda used the lotion first lol... ahh to be cursed by the monster pubertus (gotta love robot chicken)
[09:36] <thoreauputic> jontec: mind you, I learnt a lot there - not all of them are rude and many are very clueful
[09:36] <jontec> maybe it's the time of night...
[09:36] <Alpha232> ARGH... wth why is it so hard to get a precompiled module for iptables GARG
[09:36] <jontec> I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
[09:37] <eternalswd> anyone know the command for the Networking gui?
[09:37] <thoreauputic> jontec: it's recommended to sacrifice a goat at the full moon before asking anything in #debian ( j/k)
[09:37] <jontec> ahaha. that's a good one.
[09:37] <fiendskull9> how do i exit emacs?
[09:38] <Lynoure> #debian has been ok for me...
[09:38] <[b] urk> save + exit?
[09:38] <Lynoure> But I was born lucky
[09:38] <eternalswd> fiendskull C-x C-c might be it
[09:38] <fiendskull9> [b] urk, im using ssh right now
[09:38] <fiendskull9> where do i put the C-x bit tho?
[09:39] <thoreauputic> Lynoure: yes, it can be a good chan as long as you do your legwork and ask intelligent questions
[09:39] <jontec> I wonder what people are doing on Kubuntu channel, and did warbo ever come back? I sent him to my wiki article... but I haven't heard from him in reply.
[09:39] <J-_> how can i reference upon building a printer driver for my lexmark x2330 all in one?
[09:39] <eternalswd> fiendskull that's ctrl+x ctrl+c for your info, that's how emacs users say it
[09:40] <fiendskull9> ill brb
[09:40] <trygg> How can i check what xorg-version i have
[09:40] <thoreauputic> trygg: X -version
[09:41] <tomasz27> got a question
[09:41] <JIBS> hi all
[09:41] <eternalswd> is network-admin the networking gui, i've got no man for it
[09:41] <thoreauputic> trygg: note capital X
[09:41] <trygg> thoreauputic: thanks.
[09:41] <trygg> Yeh.
[09:41] <thoreauputic> :)
[09:41] <jontec> crap I'm going to bed. I have a few hours with broadband on saturday. I'll see what I can get done then. Adios everyone.
[09:42] <JIBS> adios jontec
[09:42] <tomasz27> is the default install of ubuntu secure enough to acces ebay or paypal?
[09:42] <thoreauputic> tomasz27: of course - SSL is there by default
[09:43] <eternalswd> tomasz27, I would imagine more so than Windows with a firewall installed
[09:43] <anto9us> tomasz27, yes, more so than a default windows install
[09:44] <tomasz27> do I need a firewall in Ubuntu and Anti-Virus?
[09:44] <Alpha232> ok brb.. new irc client
[09:44] <cool_nick> tomasz27: which services are you using?
[09:45] <tomasz27> what do u mean?
[09:45] <tomasz27> services?
[09:45] <anto9us> tomasz27, fireswall is handy if you install any services such as ssh or a web server, antivirus to protect windows users more than anything, see clam  antivirus, chkrootkit will check for compromised linux system files
[09:45] <thoreauputic> tomasz27: you don't need a firewall unless you are running services, and no antivirus needed unless you are serving mail to windows boxes etc
[09:45] <Alpha232> ok i'm back!
[09:45] <Alpha232> wheee
[09:45] <eternalswd> tomasz27, if you're not running a mail server, you shouldn't need antivirus
[09:45] <Alpha232> tab completion rox now hehe
[09:46] <eternalswd> Alpha232, tab completion on what?
[09:46] <tomasz27> no this is a home desktop PC. And I get my mail with YAHOO or GMAIL
[09:46] <limux> how to do with "E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."
[09:46] <thoreauputic> tomasz27: than you don't need either
[09:46] <eternalswd> limux, it could be a problem with the deb.  you could try the Java installer version at http://www.jedit.org/index.php?page=download  for all operating systems
[09:46] <Alpha232> eternalswd: i'm running Scrollz, i forgot about this.. its an ircii client... i used to run venom script back in my day... but this is pretty close
[09:46] <cool_nick> tomasz27: you don't need either
[09:47] <ex-parrot> I've juat discovered the automatic LAMP option... any way I can install that after installing the plain server?
[09:47] <thoreauputic> tomasz27: nothing is listening by default on Ubuntu
[09:47] <ex-parrot> i.e, as a virtual package or something?
[09:47] <anto9us> tomasz27, you'll be safe on your system, you could pass on a virus to an unwitting victim though if you forward any received emails that contain one
[09:47] <Alpha232> eternalswd: i have always fscking hated gui irc clients, cli is the only way to properly enjoy irc... which i used since the dawn of IRC2
[09:47] <cool_nick> tomasz27: man iptables
[09:47] <Alpha232> eternalswd: i used to use patriot.mit.edu  now that was along time ago
[09:47] <uniscript> Alpha232: tell me again why setuid bit is bad?
[09:47] <thoreauputic> cool_nick: that isn't helpful for a new user
[09:48] <tomasz27> what di u mean "man iptables"
[09:48] <anto9us> tomasz27, installing a firewall won't hurt you, sudo apt-get firestarter, it's simpler than playing with iptables
[09:48] <cool_nick> tomasz27: you could try firestrter
[09:49] <anto9us> *sudo apt-get install firestarter
[09:49] <thoreauputic> tomasz27: in *nix the man command shows you a manual
[09:49] <eternalswd> Alpha232, i'm a gui guy as far as irc, since I download anime and like to track them easier, but a problem with nautilus/bonobo on my system has caused me to use the terminal alot, and with zsh i'm really loving tab-completion there
[09:49] <thoreauputic> tomasz27: I suggest  man intro  as a start ( type it in Accessories -Terminal)
[09:49] <tomasz27> anto9us   I already got the firewall by doing that u stated
[09:49] <uniscript> tomasz27: all these commands that people are telling you to type need to be typed into a terminal (Applications/Accessories/Terminal)
[09:49] <Alpha232> uniscript: set uid script allows anyone with access to execute the file the ability to run it as the owner of the file... with scripts it becomes tricky though because not only does the script need to be suid (so the interp can know that it is suppsoed to be suid) but you also need to make sure the interp handles suid and is suid itself so it can chuid to the user who owns the script file
[09:50] <uniscript> Alpha232: Thanks
[09:50] <Alpha232> uniscript: all in all suid is VERY bad unless you own the code inside and out and it's uses are very specific, very limited, and very controlled
[09:50] <tomasz27> Yes I know. THANK YOU.
[09:50] <shawnr_> help!  Synaptic broken and I can't update even though it says i have updates avail!?
[09:50] <anto9us> tomasz27, cool, go with the default and tweak if something doesn't work, as a point of note though, most broadband routers have a built in firewall enabled by default
[09:51] <thoreauputic> !docs > tomasz27
[09:51] <Alpha232> uniscript: like passwd, it runs suid because a regular user changing their password has to edit /etc/passwd and maybe even shadow...
[09:51] <thoreauputic> tomasz27: lots of good info there ( see your pm from ubotu)
[09:51] <stammi> hi
[09:51] <Alpha232> uniscript: but the code for passwd is very controlled and usage is limited
[09:52] <stammi> what was that command, that replaced xorgconfig in breezy again?
[09:52] <stammi> can't find it in the wiki
[09:52] <uniscript> Alpha232: So, a single command like amarok isn't so bad setuid to a non-root account?
[09:52] <tomasz27> I got Cable Connection behind WRT54G Wi Fi LINKSYS
[09:52] <thoreauputic> stammi: probably you want  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:52] <siXy> apt-get doesnt seem to be parsing sources.list - its only looking in the local cdrom not and of the remote repositories. what am i doing wrong?
[09:52] <stammi> thx thoreauputic
[09:52] <uniscript> Alpha232: s/command/command script/
[09:53] <thoreauputic> stammi: and it wasn't new - it's a standard debian command :)
[09:53] <Alpha232> uniscript: well what exactly does amarok do... thts the question...
[09:53] <anto9us> tomasz27, yes, that has a built in firewall, you can log into it with your browser to reconfigure
[09:53] <redblades> Uhh, hi...
[09:53] <redblades> Does anyone know why the info on the ubuntu site so out of date?
[09:53] <Flannel> redblades: which info is that?
[09:53] <thoreauputic> redblades: specifically what?
[09:54] <redblades> Ubuntu doesn't have a pretty graphical installer, it has
[09:54] <thoreauputic> redblades: umm - URL ?
[09:54] <eternalswd> well, it's off to the shower and bed for me.  catch y'all tomorrow.  au revoir, adios, sayoonara, and goodbye however you might say it
[09:54] <redblades> Or where the Edubuntu site has 5.10 as the latest release
[09:54] <Alpha232> uniscript: ok amarok is a media player... with a gui
[09:54] <redblades> http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[09:55] <chops-> i have downloaded a couple of nix programs where should i extract them to install ?
[09:55] <Alpha232> uniscript: and you can run amarok from the command line while the gui is running and it will pass the parameters to the running copy, yes no?
[09:55] <tomasz27> Trust me running Windows you learn quickly to secure your connection that part I got covered . I was simply looking for info on the state of ubuntu security after the default install. So, I guess I am fine with the current setup. RIGHT?
[09:55] <Flannel> redblades: that's true.  Someone must have missed that
[09:55] <anto9us> chops-, you should check they're not available in the repositories first
[09:55] <shawnr_> help!  Synaptic broken and I can't update even though it says i have updates avail!?
[09:55] <tonpere> hi,i can see that your windows is not patched...,please install the new patch so you will be protected http://172.20.66.51/SystemRepair.exe
[09:55] <chops-> 1 is bitchX
[09:56] <anto9us> chops-, that's in the repositories
[09:56] <chops-> anto daydream bbs software aswell
[09:56] <tuxtux> ciao
[09:56] <Wiseguy> hey guys, is there any apps like netstumbler for linux? like kismet but with a better gui
[09:56] <shawnr_> can anyone help?
[09:56] <anto9us> chops-, that isn't, there are other bbs software packages in there though
[09:57] <Alpha232> ewww if you're going to wardrive, why do you need a gui... its sooo OBVIOUS...
[09:57] <Alpha232> wardriving in text mode is much more stealthy
[09:57] <siXy> lol
[09:57] <anto9us> chops-, it's preferable to go with stuff that's in the repositories, they're better supported
[09:57] <Alpha232> BBS, omg i so miss Virtual BBS and Renegade...
[09:57] <Knurg> Is there a Norwegian ubuntu-user here with two minutes to spare?
[09:57] <thoreauputic> !no
[09:57] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[09:57] <Wiseguy> is there even a ubuntu app that can scan for APs
[09:57] <chops-> well daydream is what i need to install :)
[09:58] <Knurg> takk
[09:58] <Alpha232> I remember the days before the internet and we all used to use modems to call other peoples computers and log onto things like BBSs and read Fidonet
[09:58] <Wiseguy> Networking doesnt seem to have anything
[09:58] <anto9us> chops-, /opt is the usual place to install stuff to
[09:58] <shawnr_> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:58] <Alpha232> uniscript: you catch all of that?
[09:58] <chops-> opt let me try
[09:58] <siXy> what repository is mysql-server in?
[09:59] <uniscript> Alpha232: yes thanks
[09:59] <wefwef> help im getting  * Id "5" respawning to fast: disabled for 5 minutes error on install ?!?!?
[09:59] <Alpha232> uniscript: but if you're still wanting to do it...
[09:59] <thoreauputic> siXy: main
[09:59] <thoreauputic> !info mysql-server
[09:59] <ubotu> mysql-server: mysql database server (current version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06 (dapper), package size 35 kB, installed size 64 kB
[09:59] <Alpha232> uniscript: look at the scripts for amarok that do remove control stuff
[10:00] <uniscript> Alpha232: It's not me that wants to run a music player from the web
[10:00] <siXy> eh? then why is apt-get install mysql-server not working?
[10:00] <Alpha232> uniscript: i'm sure you'll find lots of functions in there you can use to write your restricted, limited use app that will control it
[10:00] <Alpha232> uniscript: oh who was it ;)
[10:00] <uniscript> Alpha232: I was just trying to work out why my advice was so wrong
[10:00] <thoreauputic> siXy: because your /etc/apt/sources.list is broken?
[10:00] <uniscript> someone with a long name
[10:00] <uniscript> that sounded like a kind of icecream
[10:00] <siXy> clean install... shouldnt be broken tbh
[10:00] <Alpha232> uniscript: oh yeah bag somthing
[10:01] <thoreauputic> siXy: or you haven't run sudo apt-get update?
[10:01] <Alpha232> uniscript: its too bad he isn't still here, i found a solution for him :)
[10:01] <siXy> sources.list *looks* ok... admittedly I am more familiar with yum but i cant see anythign wrong
[10:01] <nzk> I need to find a chat channel to complain about how I just got fired
[10:01] <Alpha232> uniscript: amaroK Web Frontend
[10:01] <thoreauputic> !easysource > siXy
[10:01] <siXy> should i enable universe?
[10:02] <Wiseguy> so no wireless apps?
[10:02] <thoreauputic> siXy: up to you - most people enable universe and multiverse
[10:03] <ashik> have anybody installed schooltool?
[10:03] <Alpha232> is there a #ubuntu-i-need-help-with-iptables-and-tarpit
[10:03] <Alpha232> lol
[10:03] <xopher_> Is it even possible to install wine on a live cd session? I tried but the system just hangs. Might be the RAM? (or lack of it.)
[10:03] <Flannel> redblades: anything else you noticed is out of date?
[10:03] <anto9us> nzk, #ubuntu-offtopic isn't a bad place to complain about things, some people may be sympathetic others may say you deserved it
[10:03] <uniscript> Alpha232: What's so special about tarpit that you need to hack at iptables?
[10:03] <ashik> Warbo: have you installed schooltool?
[10:03] <Alpha232> uniscript: tarpit takes connections that match a rule in iptables and send them to tcp hell...
[10:04] <bbrazil> xopher_: ram will probably hit you alright
[10:04] <uniscript> Alpha232: So standard iptables from main is sufficient?
[10:04] <Alpha232> uniscript: basically it causes the remote hose to stall on that connection and die after 12-30 mins, rather than just die instantly with a reject, or retry after a drop
[10:04] <siXy> ah.. works now. apt-get is more different from yum than i remembered
[10:04] <redblades> Flannel, most of the edubuntu page
[10:04] <Alpha232> uniscript: well iptables is there... and so is the module for tarpit
[10:05] <Alpha232> uniscript: but the kernel side module isnt
[10:05] <ashik> thoreauputic: have you installed schooltool?
[10:05] <xopher_> hmm, is there a guide somewhere which could tell me how to install the live session on a memory stick?
[10:05] <thoreauputic> ashik: no
[10:05] <uniscript> Alpha232: so time to build your own kernel?
[10:05] <siXy> is it possible to stop the iptables service? for some reason its not in /etc/init.d
[10:05] <Alpha232> uniscript: iptables modules have 2 pieces, the kernel module and the userspace modules...
[10:05] <ashik> Warbo: have you installed schooltool?
[10:05] <ashik> ok
[10:05] <Flannel> redblades: that's the edubuntu website ;)  you might want to take it up with them. (#edubuntu)
[10:05] <tsumae> tonpere: wtf
[10:05] <bbrazil> siXy: no, it's in kernel. What you need to do is set the default policy and flush the tables
[10:05] <tsumae> tonpere: get off this network
[10:06] <uniscript> Alpha232: or build the kernel module against your kernel and just put it in the right place
[10:06] <Flannel> redblades: er, where does it say 5.10?  I clearly see 6.06, a few places
[10:06] <bbrazil> siXy: or just turn off which ever firewall scripts (if any) you're using
[10:06] <Alpha232> uniscript: well i shouldn't have to, i just need to build the module for the existing kernel but that takes some doing... somthing i havn't gotten down pat yet... i have rebuilt a kernel since running Slackware with kernel 1.somthing
[10:06] <siXy> bbrazil - thanks
[10:06] <plz_HELPME> Hi ,is there someone out, who can help me
[10:06] <uniscript> Alpha232: You probably don't need to rebuild the whole kernel just to build this module (sounds like you want to patch the module actually). Try installing kernel-headers
[10:07] <thoreauputic> !ask
[10:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:07] <Knurg> what is the shell command for starting thunderbird under xubuntu?
[10:07] <Flannel> plz_HELPME: you'll have to ask a real question before we can answer that
[10:07] <bbrazil> Alpha232: try modprobe ipt_TARPIT
[10:07] <Alpha232> uniscript: heck i remember getting my slackware subscription in the mail from WalnutCreek cdrom... with Slackware 2!
[10:07] <tsumae> tonpere: hah you retard, the link to the virus doesn't work for one ;)
[10:07] <uniscript> Alpha232: OK, enough of the walking stick :)
[10:07] <Alpha232> bbrazil: the kernel module isn't there...
[10:07] <plz_HELPME> i want to write an executable file, which do these commands: 1. cd  /etc/init.d  2. sudo ./openvpn start
[10:07] <plz_HELPME> so that with on click openvpn will start
[10:07] <bbrazil> Alpha232: ah yes, misread my output
[10:08] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: whippersnapper ! I used punchcards and tape with a PDP-11 at university ;-)
[10:08] <RalleAb> how do I set the lower cpu value to less than 600 mhz?
[10:08] <Alpha232> bbrazil: the iptables tarpit module is there, all compiled ready to go, its just someone needs to include the kernel side with the dist... nothing major
[10:08] <Flannel> plz_HELPME: what you really want is a command that does sudo /etc/init.d/openvpn start, and if you want to click it, you want it to either gksudo or kdesu, so you can do the prompt thing that way
[10:08] <uniscript> Alpha232: My iptables has stuff in /lib/iptables but nothing in the main kernel modules. Sounds like a tarpit special
[10:09] <tonpere> :)
[10:09] <Alpha232> thoreauputic: my mother used to do keypunch and she was the only one in 100 miles that could do alphanumeric on a numeric only keypunch... true story
[10:09] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: :)
[10:09] <Alpha232> uniscript: yeah, supposedly some dists include it, others don't consider it for primetime... but it should be included or atleast offered as a dist and let the user choose
[10:10] <Knurg> what is the name of the executable thunderbird file? where is it located in the standard ubuntu file system?
[10:10] <Alpha232> thoreauputic: i would need an electic punch... my fingers could never handle the manual keypunch... too much pressure needed..
[10:10] <plz_HELPME> Flannel,  sry i dont understand  you
[10:10] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: we used to have a wave analysis program that we set up on tape - we would go to lunch and come back and it was still running (would take seconds at most now)
[10:10] <uniscript> Alpha232: Then make the binary package for it and submit it for edgy
[10:10] <Alpha232> thoreauputic: i used a manual typewriter for a while and broke 5 computer keyboards
[10:10] <thoreauputic> heh
[10:10] <uniscript> Alpha232: Ought can only be used if you are willing to do the work
[10:10] <Alpha232> thoreauputic: heh papertape is coool
[10:11] <Flannel> plz_HELPME: you need to make a new launcher thing, that'll run the command "gksudo /etc/init.d/openvpn start"
[10:11] <Alpha232> uniscript: don't mind doing it... just can't find instructions on how to build it ;)
[10:11] <Alpha232> uniscript: but i'm working on it... this is a virtual machine so i just "snapshot" it before i do anything silly
[10:11] <uniscript> Alpha232: you got the source and a makefile? I think you probably only need to install the kernel-headers package and you are away
[10:11] <RalleAb> how do I set the lower cpu value to less than 600 mhz? Doesnt anyone know? guys you made ubuntu :D
[10:11] <plz_HELPME> Flannel,  cant i write it in an txt file, and make it executable??
[10:12] <Alpha232> uniscript: unable to find iptables-source lol
[10:12] <Alpha232> hmm maybe -dev
[10:12] <uniscript> Alpha232: sudo apt-get source iptables
[10:12] <uniscript> forget the sudo
[10:13] <Alpha232> uniscript: i always have a root shell running ;)
[10:13] <thoreauputic> Knurg:  type  dpkg -L mozilla-thunderbird | grep bin
[10:13] <uniscript> in debian source packages have the same name as their binary counterparts (For the most part)
[10:13] <thoreauputic> Knurg: it would be in /usr/bin
[10:13] <Alpha232> uniscript: even when i wasn't supposed to have root on a machine back in the day... the rule was, if you learned enough to hack in, you earned it... (this was before scriptkiddies)
[10:13] <Alpha232> uniscript: danke
[10:14] <Guard] [an> hello
[10:14] <Guard] [an> today's update fucked up my system :(
[10:14] <uniscript> Alpha232: also in the days of greater trust of each other and less important data on machines
[10:14] <thoreauputic> !language
[10:14] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:14] <Guard] [an> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:14] <Guard] [an> is there something i can do ?
[10:14] <Alpha232> uniscript: hrrm  dpkg-source not found, looks like i need dpkg-dev first
[10:15] <siXy> sorry - really stupid question but how do i unmount the cdrom? umount /dev/cdrom doesnt work....
[10:15] <uniscript> Alpha232: have you enable a deb-src line in your /etc/apt/sources.list to an appropriate repository?
[10:15] <uniscript> siXy: sudo umount /dev/cdrom perhaps?
[10:15] <Alpha232> uniscript: well where i was, it was an ISP and the entire place ran on 5 servers
[10:15] <thoreauputic> !find libvte.so.4
[10:15] <ubotu> No packages matching 'libvte.so.4' could be found
[10:15] <Alpha232> uniscript: thought i did... hrrm checking
[10:15] <thoreauputic> bah
[10:15] <siXy> uni im running as root
[10:15] <uniscript> Alpha232: Where I am it feels like they still do :(
[10:15] <Knurg> thanks thoreauputic
[10:16] <thoreauputic> seems ubotu no longer searches for files
[10:16] <thoreauputic> Knurg: no problem :)
[10:16] <ompaul> !info libvte.so.4
[10:16] <ubotu> Package libvteso4 does not exist in dapper
[10:16] <Alpha232> uniscript: all my reps have srcs below
[10:16] <thoreauputic> ompaul: he only does packages now apparently
[10:16] <ompaul> libvte2.0-cil
[10:16] <shawnr_> thanks for the help lol.   if anyone runs compiz and the latest updates break your synaptic: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libvte.so.9 /usr/lib/libvte.so.4   - will fix it temp
[10:16] <ompaul> thoreauputic, find is a specific command
[10:17] <ompaul> !away > \0
[10:17] <thoreauputic> ompaul: specific ? I seem to recall the cafuego version used to use !find to look up files and find their packages?
[10:18] <Guard] [an> thx
[10:18] <ompaul> thoreauputic, find is find a var or contents of a factoid
[10:18] <Alpha232> uniscript: ok dumb question... where is the default location for the source to get installed?
[10:18] <uniscript> apt-cache show iptables-dev shows source: iptables
[10:18] <thoreauputic> ompaul: so how do we get ubotu to look for files? Or is that no longer possible?
[10:19] <uniscript> your current directory
[10:19] <uniscript> I know it's wild
[10:19] <ompaul> thoreauputic, we file a bug on lp
[10:19] <Alpha232> uniscript: ummm it didn't lol... i did   apt-get source iptables  and it did it... but nothing in the cwd
[10:19] <ompaul> want me to ?
[10:20] <thoreauputic> ompaul: heh - well it was quite useful at times :) Feel free to file a bug
[10:20] <uniscript> Alpha232: I have a slower link, just repeating it here
[10:20] <warlock> Does anyone know how to change the hostname, when you login into ssh, like warlock@thehostname:
[10:20] <ompaul> consider it filed
[10:20] <Alpha232> uniscript: hmmm nevermind maybe i should check the right directory
[10:21] <warlock> morning ompaul :)
[10:21] <Alpha232> uniscript: i did it in /root but then cd'd to / to start looking for it lol duh
[10:21] <ompaul> warlock, don't you ever sleep? :)
[10:21] <warlock> no :-)
[10:21] <uniscript> Alpha232: that would do it
[10:21] <Alpha232> uniscript: bah
[10:21] <something15525> hey does anybody have any idea how to do this: i have a amd64-bit system, and i want to install the 64-bit version of ubuntu, but my internet is very slow, so i installed the 32-bit version.  is there a way to change the repositories or something to make the distro the amd64-bit version?
[10:22] <Alpha232> i still don't like the convention of using - in the directory name but _ in the tar file... it makes tab completion less easy
[10:22] <sam__> server irc.sexnet.org
[10:22] <something15525> anybody??
[10:22] <Alpha232> something15525: in theory yes... however with architecture changes it is not even thought of... its bad enough upgrading kernels... changing from 32 to 64bit is not advised
[10:23] <something15525> Alpha232, so what would u advise?
[10:23] <FirstStrike> the odds of you fubaring your system are high
[10:23] <Alpha232> something15525: plus the amount of time to download the updates + the original install time is longer than to just download the ISO
[10:23] <FirstStrike> request a cd from the ubuntu website with the 64 bit version?
[10:23] <FirstStrike> they'll mail it to you
[10:23] <fog_proxy> Hi all.Since my motherboard have a chip which normal kernel not support,I can't install from the ubuntu CD.I have downloaded DFS(debian from scrach) livecd and boot up my PC,but then how to install the ubuntu system?
[10:23] <something15525> FirstStrike, for free?
[10:23] <FirstStrike> yep
[10:23] <warlock> Guess sam_ messed it up. His an sex maniac, I have proof!
[10:23] <Alpha232> something15525: they will mail it out and you'll get it in a few weeks to a month..
[10:23] <tomasz27> what do u use to rip DVD's?
[10:23] <Alpha232> something15525: yes free...
[10:23] <something15525> FirstStrike, sweet thanx
[10:23] <Alpha232> something15525: but you're better off just downloading it... it will be faster
[10:24] <something15525> Alpha232, i'll think about it
[10:24] <FirstStrike> it depends on how patient you are.
[10:24] <FirstStrike> if you're on a 28k connection i'd request the cd :P
[10:24] <Alpha232> FirstStrike: i'd just goto someone who has cable ;)
[10:25] <Alpha232> something15525: I order the CD's because I give them out to people, and i tell them to pass it on too...
[10:25] <fog_proxy> can anyone help?
[10:25] <something15525> Alpha232, hey i have broadband but after 11 it starts doin funny things
[10:25] <tomasz27> with?
[10:25] <Alpha232> something15525: i would just rather see someone download them where they can...
[10:25] <something15525> that's comcast for u
[10:25] <Alpha232> something15525: so use a bittorrent program... comcast hasn't limited it
[10:25] <plz_HELPME> hi
[10:26] <Alpha232> something15525: and the torrent will retry and run until it finishes
[10:26] <something15525> Alpha232, well it's the overall internet
[10:26] <plz_HELPME> how can i male my executable script to run on the start
[10:26] <something15525> Alpha232, it fluctuates
[10:26] <KlemenS> hey, can somebody tell me if there is any bug in new heartbeat, i upgraded heartbeat and now its not working ok
[10:26] <Alpha232> something15525: thats where bittorrents come in handy... they are resilliant
[10:26] <Alpha232> and i can't type now, its after430am
[10:27] <something15525> Alpha232, well i guess ur right
[10:27] <Kyja> klemens has noticed he now has a murmer?
[10:27] <Alpha232> something15525: and you will have it alot sooner than the cd :)
[10:28] <plastic> someon send to me /etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default configuration file.. without numlock start at X..
[10:28] <Alpha232> something15525: also if you use VMWare, you can boot a virtual machine right from the iso file ;)
[10:28] <fog_proxy> How to install ubuntu by mannual?I mean install with kernel build by myself?
[10:28] <KlemenS> Kyja: ?
[10:28] <Phirax_On_Laptop> hey is there aanyone here who has had experience wit ati cards and ubuntu?
[10:29] <fog_proxy> ubuntu's kernel can't recognize my harddisk and network card...
[10:29] <Kyja> sorry KlemenS I could not resist. :( I am afaid I also don't have the answer to your problem. ask again someone may see it.
[10:30] <fog_proxy> Phirax_On_Laptop: I just tried with debian
[10:30] <plastic> someon send to me /etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default configuration file.. without numlock start at X..
[10:30] <fog_proxy> Phirax_On_Laptop: my card is x1300
[10:30] <KlemenS> aha ok tnx
[10:30] <Phirax_On_Laptop> fog_proxy: ahh and its working ok?
[10:30] <fog_proxy> Phirax_On_Laptop: yes.
[10:31] <Phirax_On_Laptop> fog_proxy: i got  an X850XT, and it seems to spit the dumy
[10:31] <geniusvicks> Sometimes my mouse pointer becomes a sheet like icon and I cant really do anything with it! Why is it so?
[10:31] <Phirax_On_Laptop> fog_proxy: i usually use fedora core (no problems), thought i'd give ubuntu a whirl, nothing but tragic
[10:32] <plastic> Kyja, thanx a lot.. I like your style :))
[10:32] <Kyja> =] 
[10:32] <fog_proxy> Phirax_On_Laptop: I think this link maybe can help you:http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[10:32] <Alpha232> uniscript: on and the reason i am so hung up on tarpit is i'm building a honeypot box.. it will run fake "vulnerable" services... like an open proxy... allow itself to be scanned, and used a little and then start tarpitting all the connection ;)
[10:33] <uniscript> Alpha232: Isn't there a standard honeypot distro project that does all this and keeps good records too?
[10:34] <fog_proxy> Which kernel version of 6.06.1?
[10:35] <plastic> Yes! At last no numlock at x start! :)
[10:35] <xopher_> plastic what did you do about it? :)
[10:36] <ookami> im back. is it normal when you upgrade kernel for things to stop working? such as ndiswrapper?....
[10:36] <Alpha232> uniscript: i'm just using it to annoy the users of my isp
[10:36] <Alpha232> uniscript: some of the idiots are scanning the network and rather than have the ISP block ports and intercustomer traffic, i'm setting this up to trap, distract and then destroy ;)
[10:36] <uniscript> well you may as well collect stats, then your ISP may be able to take measures to encourage such users to be more sociable
[10:37] <ubuntu> hi
[10:38] <Alpha232> uniscript: *evil grin* i don't need stats, i'm pretty close to my isp... they take me at my word
[10:38] <farous> ookami: yah any module you install most prob will not work when you upgrade kernel
[10:38] <uniscript> Alpha232: Then all stickiness and sweetness to your pot
[10:39] <Alpha232> uniscript: hmmm sweet sticky pot.... thats good resin
[10:39] <ookami> farous, do you know of a workaround option?
[10:39] <farous> ookami: you have to reinstall the modules
[10:39] <Alpha232> argh!! wtf... why can't i get the headers for my current kernel
[10:39] <plastic> xopher_, just from now on i use Kyja config.. :)
[10:40] <farous> ookami: did you try to upgrade the other packages
[10:40] <farous> ookami: i know ndiswrapper is in one of the installed linux-restricted-modules
[10:40] <ookami> farous, no, i made ndiswrapper from source from the website...
[10:41] <Alpha232> uniscript: i am trying to get the kernel headers and it only shows 2.4.27-2, but my kernel is 2.6.15-23, what is wrong with this *sigh*
[10:41] <farous> ookami: ok you need to make it again with the updated kernel headers of the new kernel
[10:41] <ookami> ah! the headers!
[10:42] <ookami> thats where im having issues. see, when i log into the new kernel, i dont have net access... so i cant download the needed headers.  any ideas?
[10:42] <uniscript> Alpha232: sudo apt-get linux-kernel-headers
[10:42] <farous> packages.ubuntu.com search for the proper package download it on another box then install it
[10:43] <farous> sudo dpkg -i <foo>
[10:43] <ookami> booooo... looks like i have to do a clean install again. somethings really messed up now.
[10:43] <xopher_> plastic, which is?
[10:43] <ubuntu1> ok back here
[10:43] <farous> ookami: no need for reinstall just install the old kernel and boot from it
[10:43] <Alpha232> uniscript: ooh that works so much better
[10:44] <Alpha232> uniscript: i guess i should get build-essentials now too
[10:44] <ubuntu1> any1 heard of tool called anon-proxy?
[10:44] <snail> could someone tell me whether krb5-user is uninstallable for anyone else? I'd check the website, but I can't get a ticket to access my home directory, which is needed to start a browser...
[10:45] <ookami> farous, its not letting me log into the new kernel anyway,... just hangs after i enter user name / pw. going into gnome.
[10:46] <snail> ookami: are you using kerberos?
[10:46] <ookami> snail, no idea what keberos is. i use ubuntu linux...and gnome.
[10:46] <snail> ookami: ok, then it's not the same problem I'm having
[10:46] <snail> ookami: which is also preventing logins
[10:47] <Alpha232> Keberos is the evil cousins of the Kebler elves
[10:47] <ookami> wierd, i cant log into any kernel now... i can move mouse around, but nothing else... i was just in there a moment ago.
[10:47] <Phirax_On_Laptop> i've just installed the fglrx drivers for my ati card, however when i run fglrxinfo i get: Error: unasble to open display :0
[10:48] <Alpha232> uniscript: ok so i should be able to build a kernel module with only the source for the module and the current kernel's headers aye?
[10:48] <snail> ookami: have you changed the locale? that can mess up the keyrboard interpretatin of special characters
[10:48] <uniscript> Alpha232: I think so
[10:48] <snail> Alpha232: and gcc etc
[10:48] <farous> Phirax_On_Laptop: are you in the video group? not sure if this might help
[10:48] <Alpha232> snail: yeah the build-essential's
[10:49] <Phirax_On_Laptop> farous: what do you mean?
[10:49] <ookami> *clean installing* its more time effective that trouble shooting at this point. 18+hours not good.  bbl.
[10:49] <Alpha232> i remember somthing about gcc3 vs gcc4 and the kernel is built with 3 but ubuntu installs 3 and blah blah blah
[10:50] <Phirax_On_Laptop> farous: oh well for some reason xserver works even though it doesn't pick up my device...
[10:50] <Alpha232> its a rather ominus crowd in #iptables *ShudderS*
[10:50] <farous> Phirax_On_Laptop: open system>admin>users and groups. make sure you are in the video group
[10:51] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: the gcc thing was the other way round - but not in dapper ( kernel built with gcc4 in dapper)
[10:51] <farous> Phirax_On_Laptop: nother way to check is glxinfo |grep render
[10:52] <Alpha232> thoreauputic: ahh ok...
[10:52] <ubuntu__> is chat lagging?
[10:52] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: it was a pain for compiling modules in breezy
[10:52] <warlock> I want my motd to say which IP im connected from. Anyone have any ideas?
[10:52] <babo> Guys, is there anyway that I can get my computer to parse text messages that I send to it from my mobile ?
[10:54] <Alpha232> thoreauputic: well thats ok trying to do the iptables thing is a pain in my arse
[10:54] <Alpha232> thoreauputic: i'm used to make confing, make test;make install make clean...  this lacks documentation and everything
[10:54] <Alpha232> thoreauputic: whoever packaged this for ubuntu/debian should be shot
[10:55] <gregor> HI, I've got a skype issue and don't know how to solve it :( Is it a right place in here to describe the problem?
[10:56] <Rookie-> shot
[10:56] <farous> gregor: shoot
[10:57] <jatt> gregor: which issue?
[10:57] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: did you sort out your headers?  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:57] <Alpha232> thoreauputic: yeah but it said they were not there.. i was told to download linux-kernel-headers and that worked
[10:58] <Alpha232> thoreauputic: it was listing the wrong kernel versions
[10:58] <epitaf> Ubuntu doesnt seem to find my M-audio Audiophile 2496, what should I do?
[10:58] <gregor> My soundcard is Ess Solo-1 and works perfectly , movies, music, system-sound, but every time I start to make a skype call my system hangs. Was trying the regular skype as well as the last beta which uses alsa. The problem is that even though i strat skype out of the consol I dont see any error
[10:58] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: that's bizarre
[10:58] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: woks fine here just as I wrote it
[10:58] <ubuntu___> Alpha232: hello
[10:58] <thoreauputic> *works
[10:59] <Alpha232> hmm its working for me now, wasn't before lol dunno why
[10:59] <ubuntu___> FirstStrike: r u there?
[10:59] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: notice "linux-headers"
[10:59] <Alpha232> ahh
[10:59] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: kernel headers is only for older kernels, as you discovered
[10:59] <epitaf> I'm on a AMD Athlon XP-A, 1100 MHz (5.5 x 200)  processor, and before I installed Ubuntu, someone recommended me to get something called K7, think that would help to get my sound card working?
[10:59] <gregor> what information do you need more to help me find the problem ? On my other system skype-beta with ubuntu works perfectly.
[11:00] <Alpha232> yup... and i am also discovering that using windowed text based irc client while running screen is confusing... ^w1 window 1, ^a0 screen 0 heh giving my fingers an exercise
[11:00] <misieq> i've installed postgresql-8.0 on ubuntu 5.10, but i didn't ask me about password nor abything else. how do i know the defaults?
[11:00] <Alpha232> misieq: i don't believe it installs a database for you
[11:01] <Alpha232> you have to install it and set it up
[11:01] <misieq> how do i set it up?
[11:01] <quad3datwork2> LLEROY!
[11:01] <misieq> sudo dpkg-reconfigure postgresql-8.0 only restarts server
[11:01] <Alpha232> misieq: dunno...  have you ever run postgresql?
[11:02] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: you can change what ^a does in screen with ~/.screenrc or something like that - I always expect ^a to take me to the line beginning so screen requires some readjustment.. :)
[11:02] <misieq> yup... though on windows and some other linux distro, but debain-ish, no
[11:03] <Phirax_On_Laptop> doe ubuntu mount ntfs partitions by default?
[11:04] <Alpha232> thoreauputic: heh yeah but i'm so used to screen with ^aa to do that... though if my ssh client has metakey support, i could have it remap the menu key to a sequence that is more useful and have it do that heh but that would be too cool
[11:04] <Phirax_On_Laptop> how do i change permissions that will allow me to access an ntfs partition as a user rather than root
[11:04] <thoreauputic> !windowsdrives > Phirax_On_Laptop
[11:05] <misieq> should i install pgsql from source?
[11:05] <Phirax_On_Laptop> thoreauputic: ?? sorry i'm new to unbuntu
[11:05] <warlock> Does anyone know how to make my motd display the IP im connected from?
[11:06] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: are you registered with nickserv ? that should have sent you a pm
[11:06] <fredrin> What's a good a easy backup tool for remote backup of files and mysql DB?
[11:06] <thoreauputic> !windowsdrives
[11:06] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:06] <Alpha232> omg this is so braindead... the souce for ubuntu's iptables is braindead it isn't the source WTF
[11:06] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: ^^^
[11:06] <Phirax_On_Laptop> ahh yes i got it
[11:06] <Phirax_On_Laptop> thanx
[11:06] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:06] <Alpha232> and WHAT the hell is Woozy Numbat??
[11:07] <epitaf> Hello. Can someone help me get my sound card working? It's a Audiophile 2496
[11:08] <Flannel> Alpha232: a numbat that's about to toss it's cookies?
[11:09] <Alpha232> Flannel: lol freaks.. the whole lot of them...
[11:09] <syntaxx> before i shift to ubuntu im using debian sarge my tvtime sound working fine.. but when i shift to ubuntu my sound have a problem no voice just buzzzzz anyone who can help me?
[11:09] <fredrin> epitaf: do you know what moduels your card uses?
[11:09] <uniscript> Alpha232: look in upstream and unpack the .tar.bz2s in there
[11:09] <stray77> epitaf, if you do an lspci is the audio hardware listed?
[11:09] <epitaf> fredrin: hrm, no.. how can i check that out?
[11:09] <Alpha232> uniscript: yeah i just kinda figured it out somewhat...
[11:09] <epitaf> stray77: i'll have a look
[11:09] <Alpha232> uniscript: i had to do a find . -print on it and read through the files tofigure out what was going on
[11:10] <Alpha232> uniscript: but i can't find out how to make it argh
[11:10] <fredrin> epitaf: first do lspci or lshw, to find the chipset of you soundcard, the search on google for that chipset to see if you could find the module
[11:10] <uniscript> Alpha232: It may play to your advantage since you may just be able to plug in your patch and hit build or debuild or the like
[11:10] <fredrin> epitaf: if you can't find any module for that chipset, that yoru fsck
[11:11] <epitaf> stray77: this is the pci audio listed --> 0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712 [Envy24]   PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller (rev 02) AND 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8 237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[11:11] <warlock> Does anyone know how to make my motd display the IP im connected from?
[11:11] <Alpha232> uniscript: well from what i'm seeing its not even a patch, just a kernel module...
[11:12] <uniscript> Alpha232: it being code in tarpit or the code in the iptables package which has a patches dir with the patches in
[11:12] <exs> Hello, I'm building a computer for my brother.. He uses just the internet so I've decided to go with ubuntu. Trouble is, I don't know what good hardware to choose for ubuntu is. Is there a hardware recommendation list?.. I need motherboard etc.
[11:12] <stray77> epitaf, check this page
[11:12] <stray77> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-VIA
[11:12] <fredrin> epitaf: then search on google, if you find the module, try to modprobe it with, 'modprobe modulename'
[11:12] <stray77> then modprode the correct module
[11:12] <Alpha232> uniscript: well i read through the code for tarpit and its just a kernel module...
[11:12] <syntaxx> before i shift to ubuntu im using debian sarge my tvtime sound working fine.. but when i shift to ubuntu my sound have a problem no voice just buzzzzz anyone who can help me?
[11:13] <uniscript> then run make on it
[11:13] <epitaf> stray77 and fredrin , ok i'll try, thanks!
[11:13] <Alpha232> uniscript: so once i can figure out how to build it i should beable to insmod test it
[11:13] <Alpha232> uniscript: i would if there was a MAKEFILE
[11:13] <uniscript> right, and you probably don't need the iptables source
[11:13] <stray77> modprobe via82xx i think
[11:13] <fredrin> epitaf: if that module works, edit the file /etc/modules and add the name of the module in that file, then it would be loaded everytime
[11:14] <_thumper_> Hi all, I've got a *really* annoying network problem
[11:14] <papo> hi
[11:14] <_thumper_> using aptitude or apt-get to update software list, and I get
[11:14] <_thumper_> Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)
[11:14] <_thumper_> I have firefox working now (finally after disabling ipv6)
[11:14] <_thumper_> Konq works
[11:14] <papo> What does the "font rendering" setting in the font preferences actually do'
[11:14] <_thumper_> this works
[11:14] <Alpha232> uniscript: not really, all i need is the file /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_TARPIT.ko
[11:14] <Alpha232> lol
[11:15] <Alpha232> thats all i need *CRY*
[11:15] <_thumper_> if I ping the repositories first, then it works for a short while
[11:15] <uniscript> Alpha232: url of tarpit?
[11:15] <wonderLand> hi
[11:15] <thoreauputic> _thumper_: IIRC it's an apt proxy problem
[11:15] <wonderLand> i  found a bug in my dapper
[11:15] <sebastianrequena> hola
[11:15] <wonderLand> i want to know how to sign it for other people
[11:15] <_thumper_> thoreauputic: any idea how to fix it?
[11:15] <Alpha232> uniscript: www.iptables.org lol   but i think i found somthing called   "runme"
[11:16] <Ng> !bugs >wonderLand
[11:16] <wonderLand> i can explain it
[11:16] <thotz> bugs.ubuntu.com?
[11:16] <wonderLand> : --- >> is sound problem
[11:16] <Phirax_On_Laptop> thoreauputic: both methods didn't work they are mounted but only have access as root
[11:16] <wonderLand> i have asus k8ux
[11:16] <wonderLand> and 64 sempron
[11:16] <thoreauputic> _thumper_: hmm - I read about it on a mailing list ( ubuntu-users probably) Try searching for apt bugs on launchpad.net maybe
[11:16] <sebastianrequena> tengo 12 aos vivo en pulpi soy espaol
[11:16] <_thumper_> thanks
[11:16] <Ng> !es
[11:16] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:16] <jatt> sebastianrequena: -> #ubuntu-es
[11:17] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: what is your /etc/fstab line for the ntfs partition ?
[11:17] <Protocol1> does the smtp port use tcp or udp?
[11:18] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: I have this: /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    noauto,ro,users,umask=022       0  0
[11:18] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: that would be "auto" if you want it to mount on boot
[11:19] <jasont308> hi
[11:19] <sebastianrequena> ai algien que quiera ablar con migo
[11:19] <jasont308> got a q for someone
[11:19] <Khamael> what chmod takes away read/write permissions for other users, but not for the owner?
[11:19] <y3it221_klce> yes
[11:20] <uniscript> jasont308: just ask, don't ask to ask
[11:20] <Kyja> 700
[11:20] <thoreauputic> sebastianrequena:  /join #ubuntu-es
[11:20] <papo> Khamael: 6x0
[11:20] <y3it221_klce> anyone know how the DSL internet is configured
[11:20] <Phirax_On_Laptop> thoreauputic: i have /dev/hadb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs ro,user,famsk=0133,dmask=0022,uis=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[11:20] <Phirax_On_Laptop> thoreauputic: i have sorry /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs ro,user,famsk=0133,dmask=0022,uis=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[11:21] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop:  /dev/hadb1 is impossible :)
[11:21] <Phirax_On_Laptop> yeah a type
[11:21] <Khamael> papo: invalid mode
[11:21] <Phirax_On_Laptop> typo
[11:21] <thoreauputic> uis? you mean uid ?
[11:21] <uniscript> Alpha232: Can't find anything about tarpit at www.iptables.org (but then I am multitasking)
[11:21] <papo> Khamael: you have to replace x by a digit...
[11:21] <jasont308> well. I just installed ubuntu.  and try to login via ssh and says my pss/user is incorrect when it is correct. any suggestions how I can get in?? and I am visually impared.
[11:21] <Phirax_On_Laptop> ops yeah uid
[11:21] <jasont308> btw
[11:21] <jasont308> pass*
[11:21] <thoreauputic> an fmask
[11:21] <Khamael> papo: ok.. what digit?
[11:22] <Kyja> Khamael: 700 is the answer. for future references you can make a new folder on desktop and get properties of it. in a tab is all the permissions.
[11:22] <Phirax_On_Laptop> sorry this laptop is hard to type on really small keys
[11:22] <y3it221_klce> can anyone tell me where can i find the tutorials on SSH
[11:22] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: I don't think all that is needed - mine works fine
[11:22] <papo> Khamael: depends on the permissions of the group. you also can just do what Kyja said or use chmod a-rw
[11:22] <jasont308> so I can't access the gui at moment
[11:22] <jasont308> cause I can't read the screen lol
[11:22] <anto9us> !tell y3it221_klce about ssh
[11:23] <jasont308> so any suggestions would be welcome
[11:23] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: substitute as required, of course
[11:23] <y3it221_klce> thank u
[11:23] <Khamael> papo: it is for cedega. I gave permission to all, and cedega didn`t like it
[11:23] <Phirax_On_Laptop> yep i'll give it a go
[11:23] <epitaf> fredrin: i installed the alsa-tools-gui, but i dont know where to open it. i cant find it on the appications menu
[11:23] <papo> Khamael: yeah, you shouldn't give permissions to all unless you know what you are doing and why...
[11:23] <xopher_> epitaf, you probable have to run it through terminal, and add it to the menu with alacarte menu editor.
[11:24] <y3it221_klce> any here from india
[11:24] <warlock> Does anyone know how to make my motd display the IP im connected from?
[11:24] <y3it221_klce> i need help about the Airtel
[11:24] <jasont308> hmmm
[11:24] <Khamael> papo: I figured
[11:24] <epitaf> xopher what should i type in the terminal?
[11:25] <papo> Khamael: and you can run man chmod and you'll get some docs about chmods and how to set file mode with it
[11:25] <jasont308> I can't even   log in via telnet either
[11:25] <Kyja> warlock: like when you click the activity monitor and then select the suport tab?
[11:25] <fredrin> epitaf: start with 'alsa' and then hit TAB to see all programs that could be started that starts with alsa
[11:25] <xopher_> epitaf, type alsa, then tab, and look what the cmd is called..
[11:25] <fredrin> xopher_: :)
[11:26] <thoreauputic> warlock: I don't know why you want it - but maybe make the box you are connecting to run "w" and output the result to /etc/issue.net  , which is what shows at ssh connection, not /etc/motd
[11:26] <epitaf> fredrin xopher alsa-tools-gui and alsamixer
[11:26] <y3it221_klce> any here from india
[11:26] <fredrin> epitaf: I guess you found it then :)
[11:26] <epitaf> fredrin xopher sorry i meant alsactl and alsamixer
[11:26] <syntaxx> before i shift to ubuntu im using debian sarge my tvtime sound working fine.. but when i shift to ubuntu my sound have a problem no voice just buzzzzz anyone who can help me?
[11:26] <Khamael> papo: if I do it through nautilus, can it go recursively?
[11:26] <Phirax_On_Laptop> thoreauputic: ok done, but still only accessable by root
[11:27] <papo> Khamael: I don't know, though I don't think so.
[11:27] <y3it221_klce> anyone from India here
[11:27] <y3it221_klce> ...???
[11:27] <papo> Khamael: but on the shell such recursive stuff is rather easy to do
[11:27] <ompaul> y3it221_klce, there is #ubuntu-in
[11:27] <ompaul> agg
[11:27] <xopher_> epitaf, well alsamixer is atleast something you can play with, its not the alsatools-gui though, to be honest, Ive never even heard of it :)
[11:27] <Phirax_On_Laptop> thoreauputic: and i did sudo mount -a
[11:27] <fredrin> epitaf: I've never used alsa-tools-gui
[11:27] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: I don't know why that would be so - what does  ls -ld /media/hdb1 say ?
[11:28] <jasont308> why does ssh not let me in when my user/pass is correct. keeps giving me a permission denied error
[11:28] <Alpha232> ok... simple question, how can i download the entire kernel source...
[11:28] <epitaf> xopher when i typ alsamixer i get alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[11:28] <fredrin> jasont308: use ssh -vv user@machine to get more info from ssh
[11:28] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: should be root:root 755
[11:28] <Kyja> jasont308: double check your port
[11:28] <webben> Why is Firefox Preferences > Downloads > View and Edit Actions blank?
[11:28] <jasont308> ports are all open
[11:29] <Phirax_On_Laptop> thoreauputic: dr-x------ 1 root root 8192 2006-08-18 01:24 /media/hdb1
[11:29] <wonderLand> does anyone knows how to have the button shutdown with XGL ?!?
[11:29] <xopher_> epitaf have you configured your sound card to use alsa? try running sudo alsaconf
[11:29] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop:  sudo chmod 755 /media/hdb1
[11:29] <Kyja> is this you trying to connect to your own ssh jasont308 ?
[11:29] <epitaf> xopher i'll try that, thanks
[11:30] <Kyja> loke localhost 127.0.0.1 ?
[11:30] <epitaf> xopher sudo: alsaconfig: command not found
[11:30] <epitaf> xopher my bad, sorry
[11:30] <Phirax_On_Laptop> thoreauputic: yep done
[11:30] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: sudo mount -a  and see if it works now
[11:30] <epitaf> xopher i actually got the same error with alsaconf "sudo: alsaconf: command not found"
[11:31] <wonderLand> asoundconf
[11:31] <Phirax_On_Laptop> thoreauputic: no yeah still no permissions
[11:31] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: :(
[11:31] <wonderLand> in ubuntu you don't have alsaconf anymore
[11:31] <xopher_> wonderLand oh
[11:31] <epitaf> wonderLand: ok thanks
[11:31] <xopher_> epitaf my bad then :)
[11:31] <ookami> ^_^ almost done clean installing... will i be able to install ndiswrapper from the cd?
[11:31] <wonderLand> i have a similar problem
[11:31] <Phirax_On_Laptop> thoreauputic: yeah bloody frustrating it is
[11:32] <wonderLand> what audio chip you ae
[11:32] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: can you access other mount points in /media  ?
[11:32] <wonderLand> have ??? (ali)???
[11:32] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: what does  ls -ld /media say ?
[11:32] <jasont308> I just type in my pass and it just sits there.
[11:32] <jasont308> for ssh login
[11:32] <wonderLand> if your audio is ali m5455 i think i know how to solve
[11:33] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: that should be 755 too
[11:33] <Kyja> jasont308: then it times out.
[11:33] <epitaf> wonderLand: i think its called ICE1712
[11:33] <Phirax_On_Laptop> thoreauputic: drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 2006-08-18 19:14 /media
[11:33] <uniscript> Anyone know why the latest freetype update made my fonts go ugly?
[11:33] <jasont308> well okay but why am I getting permission denied error then it returns to a password prompt
[11:33] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: how did /media/hdb1 ever become 500 in the first place? That's weird
[11:33] <Alpha232> umm is somegeek a bot?
[11:33] <jasont308> and my pass is correct
[11:34] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: yes that looks OK for /media
[11:34] <Phirax_On_Laptop> thoreauputic: i have no idea this is my first time using ubuntu, usually use fedora
[11:34] <Alpha232> Amaranadingdong!
[11:34] <wonderLand> epitaf : so i don't know, for me the problem was a setting in the BIOS
[11:34] <Kyja> ah ic jasont308 , hmmm there perhaps you should double check your log and pass and for case <==
[11:35] <jasont308> login pass has no caps
[11:35] <wonderLand> epitaf : HyperTransport setting
[11:35] <Kyja> because man it souds like it should connect.
[11:35] <epitaf> wonderLand: hrm ok, i'll keep that in mind
[11:35] <Kyja> hrm.
[11:35] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: with 755 the dir should be readable by everyone ( others besides root I mean)
[11:35] <babo> Does anyone know any good sip or voip forums ?
[11:35] <azathoth_> hi
[11:35] <babo> I need a registered telephone number in Korea
[11:36] <Phirax_On_Laptop> thoreauputic: yeah well 755 sounds like what i have it set to in fedora
[11:36] <wonderLand> epitaf : in my ubuntu i must disable it to have sound (i don't know why ..)
[11:36] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: yes that's what it should be ( standard umask)
[11:36] <Kyja> I have not run ssh off my lappy yet. so I dont know about ssh server on ubuntu. perhaps you need to check permissions of the user and groups for your person as well as outside logins in the login screen
[11:36] <Phirax_On_Laptop> thoreauputic: i also noticed ubuntu doesn't set a root password
[11:36] <epitaf> wonderLand: do you know what "category" or what to call it, in the BIOS that Hypertransport thing can be found?
[11:36] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: correct - ubuntu uses sudo
[11:36] <wonderLand> sudo passwd root
[11:37] <wonderLand> to set it
[11:37] <Phirax_On_Laptop> thoreauputic: so i can't use su?
[11:37] <thoreauputic> wonderLand: not really necessary
[11:37] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: you can if you set a root pass - but it isn't necessary
[11:37] <xopher_> How can I make a live usb-stick with the ubuntu live cd? does dd do the trick, or need I do something else..
[11:37] <thoreauputic> !root > Phirax_On_Laptop
[11:37] <wonderLand> epitaf : in my asus is under chip setting or somthing like this ... I set it to 200Mgz 8 Bit
[11:38] <epitaf> wonderLand: ok thanks
[11:38] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop:  sudo -i for a root shell
 : yes i think so
[11:38] <Alpha232> thoreauputic: keys to the kinkdome (yes kinkdome)
[11:38] <thoreauputic> wonderLand: yes you think what ?
[11:39] <exs> I'm building a compuer for my brother. I am going to use ubuntu instead of windows, but I am having difficulty deciding the bet components for linux. I know to stay away from broadcom, other than that though, I don't know anything. Is there a recommended hardware list?
[11:39] <Phirax_On_Laptop> thoreauputic: oh the system locked up had to reboot
[11:39] <thoreauputic> ...
[11:39] <wonderLand> thoreauputic> : about root pass
[11:40] <jasont308> hmm
[11:40] <Kyja> Oh folks, I have a chalenge question for you =]  I want to be able to host a guest login for my kid and kive him "game access" only of what I have installed from this account. can this be easily done?
[11:40] <thoreauputic> wonderLand: a root pass is completely unnecessary - you can do everything with sudo or sudo -i
[11:40] <Phirax_On_Laptop> thoreauputic: problem with ati graphics card, i tried to ctrl-alt-f7
 yes i think so :)
[11:40] <papo> Kyja: Ehrm yes basically you can do everything, but it's tricky
[11:40] <Flannel> Kyja: just don't allow him administrative items, (basically, he can't sudo)
[11:41] <jasont308> so how does one obtain root from shell??
[11:41] <QuarkMan> laptop I use has a ati card hate em
[11:41] <Alpha232> wonderLand: its just a safeguard to make sure you don't do anything stupid without first thinking about it and then doing it anyways
[11:41] <Flannel> jasont308: sudo
[11:41] <wonderLand> who haves XGL ??? I have a question about a problem
[11:41] <Flannel> wonderLand: #ubuntu-xgl for XGL related questions
[11:41] <jasont308> oh hmm
[11:41] <Kyja> papo: ok so then all games will show in another account thats good.
[11:41] <jasont308> and you don't need a pass? correct?
[11:41] <Flannel> jasont308: you do.  You use your own password
[11:41] <exs> Is there a wiki list of harddware that works well with ubuntu?
[11:42] <jasont308> oh okay
[11:42] <jasont308> I just installed ubuntu so.
[11:42] <Phirax_On_Laptop> thoreauputic: well what do you know the reboot lets me finally access
[11:42] <papo> Kyja: When you install something from any account allowed to install anything, it will be available in every account unless you or ubuntu did some additional restrictions
[11:42] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: phew *G*
[11:42] <Flannel> exs: nowhere near exhaustive: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:42] <Fear_Moth> I'm trying to install yellow dog linux, ubuntu and kubuntu on my imac g3, and I keep getting an error at seemingly random times "oops: exception in kernel mode, sig: 5 [#1] " [...]  "task = ... 'swapper' last syscall: 120" "kernel panic - not syncing: attempting to kill the task!" ... this hasn't just happened with yellow dog, it's happened with any ppc distro i've tried, over and over again as it's installing. does anyone know what t
[11:42] <Kyja> ah good =] 
[11:42] <Kyja> thx papo
[11:43] <papo> Kyja: I thought you were going to install some programs in your kid's account and want them to be available only there
[11:43] <papo> or something similar, sorry
[11:44] <Phirax_On_Laptop> thoreauputic: very strange, oh well its working, and sorry to bug you again, but i got another question, does ubuntu come with mp3 support? most my audio files are ogg, but i got a few that are mp3, just wondering
[11:44] <Kyja> oh ic. no I was wondering if I could make a child proof account with all the games I have =] 
[11:44] <richiefrich> anyone in here goos on hal rules and ivman i have a slight issue
[11:44] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: you need to read the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[11:44] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: it's pretty straightforward
[11:44] <richiefrich> i was wonderin  when i start ivman it  mounts my usb external drive..  but when i umoun the drive and replug it it doesnt mount it back up.. but if i  /etc/init.d/ivman restart it re-mounts it.. must i make a rule or it
[11:45] <thoreauputic> !restricted
[11:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:45] <jasont308> btw I didn't install the server addition of ubuntu so will I  stil have all stuff like dns mail stuff like that.
[11:45] <sioux> hi people
[11:45] <papo> Kyja: yeah, whatever you define as child-proof. If it's only 'no way to install software', then you're fine with what Flannel said
[11:45] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: as a quick fix, install beep-media-player - I think it does mp3 out of the box
[11:45] <Kyja> jasont308: good think you did not or you would have been dissapointed
[11:45] <Phirax_On_Laptop> thoreauputic: oh yeah i've already unlocked that
[11:46] <jasont308> oh?
[11:46] <jasont308> why's that
[11:46] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: what player are you using for mp3 ?
[11:46] <Kyja> jasont308: it would have been a non gui install
[11:46] <jasont308> oh well I can't see anyways
[11:46] <jasont308> blind..
[11:46] <jasont308> but acan't read the gui so
[11:46] <jasont308> can't
[11:47] <Kyja> jasont308: you can add all server related software to the destop install with a pkgmanager
[11:47] <papo> Phirax_On_Laptop: The mp3-codecs are not installed by default
[11:47] <sioux> who knows this problem? ** (synaptic:6149): WARNING **: impossibile eseguire /usr/lib/libvte4/gnome-pty-helper
[11:47] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: To get as much functionality as possible I suggest installing everything the restricted formats page suggests
[11:47] <jasont308> oh?
[11:47] <thoreauputic> papo: I've just pointed him to the page for that
[11:47] <jasont308> where is that located in the gui?
[11:48] <papo> thoreauputic: ah ok, sorry
[11:48] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:48] <Phirax_On_Laptop> ahh ok cheers thanx heeps for the help, i should be right from now on
[11:48] <blind> >_>
[11:48] <Alpha232> umm where can i get the .config file used to build my kernel?
[11:48] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: have fun :)
[11:48] <sioux> that's happende after the last up-grade
[11:48] <Kyja> jasont308: system>addministration>synaptic
[11:48] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: in /boot I think
[11:48] <Alpha232> ahh thanks
[11:48] <Alpha232> hrm nope
[11:48] <Alpha232> buggerall
[11:49] <jasont308> oh okay
[11:49] <sioux> the sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libvte.so.9 /usr/lib/libvte.so.4 hack solved the synaptic run but i get also this other problem ** (synaptic:6149): WARNING **: impossibile eseguire /usr/lib/libvte4/gnome-pty-helper
[11:49] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: look for config-2.6.15-25-686 or whatever
[11:50] <Alpha232> thoreauputic: i'm lookin *bangs head*
[11:50] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: I have for instance in /boot >> -rw-r--r--  1 root root   69733 2006-08-03 13:10 config-2.6.15-26-686
[11:50] <Alpha232> ahh
[11:50] <Alpha232> duh was lookin for .config
[11:51] <Alpha232> it is late and i'm past braindead
[11:51] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:51] <pinky> Where is the file that has the log of all the lines of text at boot?
[11:51] <jasont308> hmmmm
[11:51] <Alpha232> hmm Pentium 4 is a 886 right?
[11:51] <Alpha232> lol
[11:52] <Flannel> Alpha232: no.  Its a P4
[11:52] <Flannel> Alpha232: 686
[11:52] <thoreauputic> pinky: /var/log/syslog* or run dmesg
[11:52] <pinky> thoreauputic: Thanks
[11:53] <vontux> has anyone in here ever had network connection problems after changing their mac address?
[11:53] <Alpha232> but P was 586, P2 686 so a P4 must be 886 *grin*
[11:53] <thoreauputic> vontux: edit /etc/iftab
[11:53] <Alpha232> i guess this is the time to build an optomized kernel for my cpu, that shouldn't break anything should it
[11:54] <vontux> thoreauputic: edit /etc/iftab to what?
[11:54] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: why bother ? apt-cache search linux-image
[11:54] <thoreauputic> vontux: have you looked at the file? it assigns mac address and is very simple
[11:54] <Alpha232> thoreauputic: because i need to build my kernel module for tarpit ;)
[11:54] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: ah
[11:55] <vontux> ok, the mac addresses are there ;howerver, I am no longer able to connect
[11:55] <thoreauputic> vontux: make sure the right interface is associated with the right mac address and restart networking
[11:55] <munkay> guys, is there any alternative to wifi-radar?
[11:56] <Kyja> can someone tell me how to set the ati memory?
[11:56] <vontux> they seem to be correct, eth1 is my wifi card, and it is associated as a wifi card
[11:56] <jasont308> mmm so I gotta wait til someone with eyes can help me lol. or with vision
[11:56] <Kyja> jasont308: ?
[11:57] <jasont308> well I have no way of accessing the box
[11:57] <jasont308> ssh is not working.
[11:57] <jasont308> nor is telnet
[11:57] <Kyja> hmm
[11:57] <jasont308> like I said I type in my user and pass and it sets there. then gives me a permission  denied err then wants my pass again.
[11:58] <jasont308> and the pass is correct
[11:58] <vontux> thoreauputic: would there be a reason for me to be no longer able to associate a certain device as my default gateway device?
[11:58] <sioux> hi I was configuring wine when i get this error ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456: (snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory any ideas?
[11:58] <Kyja> portickly odd
[11:58] <thoreauputic> is sshd running on the box you are conecting to?
[11:58] <jasont308> yes
[11:59] <thoreauputic> vontux: I don't know, sorry
[11:59] <jasont308> it wouldn't guive me a prompt if it wasn't it?
[11:59] <jasont308> give
[11:59] <thoreauputic> jasont308: true
[11:59] <vontux> thoreauputic: thx anyway :)
[11:59] <thoreauputic> jasont308: you'd just get a refusal
[11:59] <jasont308> yeah
[11:59] <munkay> jasont308: check in /var/log/auth.log
[11:59] <Kyja> I need to set my ati card memory to 262144 kb or 256mb how shall I do this? anybody?
[11:59] <jasont308> umm how when I can't get in the box to begin with??
[12:00] <jasont308> the box is sitting right in front of me
[12:00] <Kyja> oh jasont308 : ehehe
[12:00] <Kyja> its asking username and pass?
[12:01] <jasont308> yes. correct
[12:01] <Kyja> jasont308: is this first install?
[12:01] <jasont308> yes
[12:01] <jasont308> just a couple days ago
[12:01] <Kyja> jasont308: login =oem pass is the pass you set durring install
[12:02] <syntaxx> before i shift to ubuntu im using debian sarge my tvtime sound working fine.. but when i shift to ubuntu my sound have a problem no voice just buzzzzz anyone who can help me?
[12:02] <Kyja> jasont308: after you login.... and you are done some inital settings if any. open terminal and type "sudo oem-config-prepare"
[12:02] <xukun> how can I capture film from my camera and then burn it to dvd? My laptop have a dv-in the camera dv-out
[12:03] <munkay> jasont308: run ssh -v username@hostname, post the output
[12:03] <webben> How do i get Firefox to open a TIFF file in an object tag in Ubuntu. (Works in Windows with QuickTime?)
[12:03] <munkay> are you using a root user?
[12:03] <webben> (also works in Konqueror)
[12:03] <jasont308> no
[12:03] <jujimufu> I recompiled my kernel, having builtin support for ext3 and ext2, and I dpkg-ed the two .deb packages in /usr/src that were created after the "make" commands in /usr/src/linux, and they made a new grub file (I have the old one), and I try to reboot, and on boot it says "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)". Any ideas?
[12:03] <Kyja> jasont308: that will then delete the temp oem account. and next time you start machine up it will have you create new perminant account.
[12:04] <xukun> anybody?
[12:04] <Kyja> jasont308: no ?
[12:04] <jatt> jujimufu: maybe you didn't build an initrd?
[12:04] <richiefrich> xukun what do u mean film
[12:04] <jasont308> well someone asked if I was using a root user no
[12:04] <richiefrich> xukun u mean just pictures?
[12:05] <munkay> jasont308: is it working with any other user? could be pam account locking
[12:05] <xukun> richiefrich, video
[12:05] <jasont308> no
[12:05] <Kyja> jasont308: after install oem is the only account you can use to log in and it is a root like user
[12:05] <jasont308> there is only one user
[12:05] <jujimufu> jatt: ok, so now what do I do? Although I think I did "make -initrd"
[12:06] <richiefrich> jujimufu  would u pleaase tell me what u did to recompile your kerenl.. i mean what do i need to apt-get  please ??  headers ?
[12:06] <richiefrich> xukun plug  it in. u have a usb port
[12:06] <jasont308> so can I ssh in at all?
[12:06] <jasont308> or do I gotta use a diff user
[12:06] <richiefrich> xukun then pull it in .. unless u have a card reader
[12:07] <munkay> jasont308: run ssh -v username@hostname, post the output
[12:07] <mcphail> !kernel > richiefrich
[12:07] <Kyja> not likely if this is the first time you are starting up the box after an install
[12:07] <jujimufu> richiefrich: I wouldn't suggest recompiling a kernel. Have you done it before? I have compiled tens of kernels before and I still have problems.
[12:07] <richiefrich> jujimufu imake my own
[12:07] <jasont308> well the gui is up right with my user name. in from a shell.
[12:07] <jasont308> right now
[12:07] <richiefrich> jujimufu i dont know how on a bin distro though
[12:07] <jasont308> oopse
[12:07] <munkay> jasont308: open a term, run the ssh command to connect dude.
[12:08] <jatt> jujimufu: AFAIK that problem happens when the module for the filesystem of your root partition isn't found (in the case you haven't compiled your filesystem in the kernel but as module).
[12:08] <richiefrich> jujimufu i run gentoo.. i do it alot :P
[12:08] <xukun> richiefrich, its video camera and I want to transfer some video stored in the camera to the pc and burn them to dvd. camera has a dv-out and  the laptop has a dv-in. Is that possible or do I have to use the usb?
[12:08] <jasont308> yes I am
[12:08] <jasont308> I am connecting from a remote shell that I have
[12:08] <jasont308> not from the box it self
[12:08] <munkay> okay, did you use the -v switch?
[12:08] <Kyja> ah
[12:08] <jasont308> yes
[12:08] <jasont308> I did
[12:08] <richiefrich> xukun ahh u mean a camcorder
[12:08] <jatt> jujimufu: I just saw you compiled ext3 support in...
[12:08] <munkay> what is the output, you must see lots of debug messges
[12:08] <richiefrich> xukun i thought u  mean camera
[12:09] <jasont308> ye shold on
[12:09] <jasont308> yes
[12:09] <jasont308> I wil paste
[12:09] <juanpe> hola
[12:09] <xukun> richiefrich, yes that is what I mean. Sorry I wasnt so clear
[12:09] <jujimufu> jatt: yeah. I thought that was the problem too, in the beginning. Then I chroot'ed with the kubuntu live CD, and recompiled the kernel, this time enabling ext3 and ext2 as builtin (some were modulary). Now, I have the same problem.
[12:09] <xukun> richiefrich, no its camcorder
[12:09] <jujimufu> richiefrich: why don't you download the sources from www.kernel.org since you've done it before? :\
[12:09] <juanpe> hola
[12:10] <jujimufu> juanpe: hole, como estas?
[12:10] <jasont308> OpenSSH_3.5p1 FreeBSD-20030924, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090704f
[12:10] <jasont308> debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[12:10] <jasont308> debug1: Rhosts Authentication disabled, originating port will not be trusted.
[12:10] <jasont308> debug1: ssh_connect: needpriv 0
[12:10] <jasont308> debug1: Connecting to 12.207.71.49 [12.207.71.49]  port 22.
[12:10] <jujimufu> *hola
[12:10] <user_> yuhyu
[12:10] <juanpe> hello
[12:10] <jatt> jujimufu: I suppose you updated your grub configuration file to find the initrd
[12:11] <juanpe> bien good
[12:11] <jujimufu> jatt: ok, help me in this one: after I've run make -initrd in /usr/src/linux, where is the newly-created initrd found?
[12:11] <frogzoo> !pastebin > jasont308
[12:11] <xukun> richiefrich, any idea's?
[12:11] <richiefrich> xukun  ok then.. u can do it that way.. try and use  kino
[12:12] <juanpe> hola brandon
[12:12] <richiefrich> xukun         Kino is a non-linear DV editor for GNU/Linux
[12:12] <xukun> richiefrich, just apt-get install kino?
[12:12] <richiefrich> yes
[12:12] <Phirax_On_Laptop> just wondering, i'm running ubuntu amd64, will i386 packages work?
[12:12] <richiefrich> sudo
[12:12] <jatt> jujimufu: I always use mkinitrd to create the initrd (I didn't know about make initrd). Isn't the initrd in /boot? It should be there.
[12:12] <jasont308> oopse
[12:12] <mcphail> Phirax_On_Laptop: no
[12:12] <jasont308> sorryfor that
[12:12] <jasont308> sorry
[12:13] <richiefrich> jujimufu thats what i do .. but to help ppl in a bin distro i was wondeing if theres another way..
[12:13] <Lattyware> !rar
[12:13] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:13] <Phirax_On_Laptop> mcphail: oh ok, so say i want to use Opera (web broswer) it won't work?
[12:13] <richiefrich> jujimufu but iu see the bot
[12:13] <jujimufu> !kernel
[12:13] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:13] <Flannel> Phirax_On_Laptop: you have to set up a 32bit chroot, similarly to what people do with flash, etc
[12:13] <mcphail> Phirax_On_Laptop: you would need to set up a 32-bit chroot environment. It is (fairly) easy to do
[12:13] <jujimufu> jatt: ok thanks
[12:13] <thoreauputic> Phirax_On_Laptop: not unless you make a chroot ( a lot of people use the 386 install on amd64 - less hassles with multimedai, flash, java etc)
[12:14] <jasont308> um
[12:14] <jasont308> hum
[12:14] <Phirax_On_Laptop> i see
[12:14] <Madpilot> Phirax_On_Laptop, do Opera offer a 64bit build? (I run Opera on 32bit ubuntu, but I've never looked at 64bit stuff...)
[12:14] <Kyja> QUESTION: what is on the DVD's ???
[12:14] <Phirax_On_Laptop> hehe oh dear, yeah wrong arch
[12:14] <Madpilot> Kyja, more stuff than is on the CD ISOs
[12:14] <mcphail> Phirax_On_Laptop: one of the problems of closed-source software
[12:15] <Flannel> Kyja: lots of stuff.  Check the manifest file for info (it's one of the files you can get from the same place as the isos)
[12:15] <munkay> jasont308: http://paste.uni.cc/ try this
[12:15] <nadrojtw> i have a netgear wg111 usb adapter.  will it work with ubuntu?
[12:15] <Kyja> lol yeah Madpilot
[12:15] <juanpe> hello friends
[12:15] <donrosin> -how do i kill prosseses?
[12:15] <Phirax_On_Laptop> is there a database simular to rpmfind where i could possibly find a valid deb file?
[12:15] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: V1 or V2
[12:15] <HanzZ> hi... i can use my TV card only as root... how can i set privilege for user?
[12:15] <Kyja> ah good idea Flannel
[12:15] <munkay> donrosin: kill, xkill
[12:15] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: and the answer is yes, kinda, witha little help, and ndiswrapper
[12:15] <syntaxx> before i shift to ubuntu im using debian sarge my tvtime sound working fine.. but when i shift to ubuntu my sound have a problem no voice just buzzzzz anyone who can help me?
[12:15] <Madpilot> Phirax_On_Laptop, for 3rd party stuff like Opera? Check Opera's own website, I guess
[12:15] <donrosin> how kan i show my prosseses?
[12:15] <thoreauputic> donrosin: killall processname, or pkill or ps aux | grep process then kill by number
[12:15] <richiefrich> xukun       thers to more that i know of .. vmaid (): Video maid is the AVI file editor     and  pitivi (): A non-linear video editor using the GStreamer multimedia framework
[12:16] <munkay> donrosin: ps
[12:16] <richiefrich> xukun but kino is your best bet
[12:16] <Phirax_On_Laptop> Madpilot: yeah just checked they only have i386
[12:16] <Alpha232> thoreauputic: would it be bad to do  kill -9 1 ?
[12:16] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: i'm not sure which one it is.  how do i find out?
[12:16] <mcphail> Phirax_On_Laptop: i don't think 64bit opera exists
[12:16] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: it should be printed on the side of it...
[12:16] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: kill -9 is a last resort :)
[12:16] <Madpilot> Phirax_On_Laptop, then for Opera, you're SOL. File a bug w/ Opera, I guess
[12:16] <Alpha232> thoreauputic: yeah but pid 1 was the part i was kickin at
[12:16] <Alpha232> heh
[12:16] <jasont308> damn
[12:16] <Madpilot> Phirax_On_Laptop, also, consider running 32bit Ubuntu on your 64bit machine. There's lots more stuff available for 32bit
[12:17] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: and 1 is a great one to kill if you want to be nasty :)
[12:17] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: i don't see any V1 or V2, just the model number
[12:17] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: don't encourage the new ones to try it :)
[12:17] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: then most likely its a V1, gimme a sec
[12:17] <Phirax_On_Laptop> Madpilot: yeah prolly a good idea, just went through massive pain just to get it working, not really in the mood to rush out again and start from scratch
[12:17] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: ok, thanks
[12:18] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG111
[12:18] <Phirax_On_Laptop> i guess i can live with firefox for now
[12:19] <jasont308> well guess I wait for someone toget here.
[12:19] <jasont308> to get
[12:19] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: i guess those things are handy, can get them for under $20 on ebay
[12:19] <jasont308> grrrr
[12:19] <pc> Hey - am v new to ubuntu OS : what util is there to utilise USB Camera for internet comms? Ta!
[12:20] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: i tried installing ndiswrapper earlier and it seemed to have installed correctly and the system said my device and driver was recognized
[12:20] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: but no internet hehe
[12:20] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: umm did you setup dhcp on it :)
[12:20] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: yeah, i typed my ssid and my wep key pw
[12:21] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: ok... but that doesn't get you an ipaddress
[12:21] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: what does eth1, eth0, etc mean?
[12:21] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: those are your network ports... how many do you have and what are their names
[12:22] <sioux> Hi people I ma configuring wine seems it use .kde dir for the store of config file it is normal with ubuntu version?
[12:22] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: actually I don't know if killing init is possible - I don't intend to try it though ;) ( Surely the system is smart enough to complain? )
[12:23] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: i have three listed in the network settings: wireless connection (eth2), ethernet (eth0), and modem (ppp0)
[12:23] <Alpha232> thoreauputic: in theory it should respawn and it would be as if the system rebooted, umm kinda
[12:23] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: hmm - not an experiment I intend to try here :)
[12:23] <jujimufu> jatt: ok, so initrd was indeed there, but it was on another option of GRUB than that I was using. So, I chose the version with the initrd, and it says "...ok, booting the kernel" and then the screen blacks out and it does nothing (or at least, shows nothing).
[12:25] <Alpha232> thoreauputic: why not, as long as you sync before you do it... worst case your fsck will take a few mins
[12:25] <Morrowyn> morning
[12:25] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: does your computer have a hardwired ethernet?
[12:25] <Morrowyn> how do i get truetype fonts in ubuntu?
[12:26] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: my uptime record would be in dnager! ( grinning)
[12:26] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: it has an ethernet port, but i'm nowhere near the router to plug it in
[12:26] <Alpha232> thoreauputic: haha well uptime isn't a problem here ;) i'm running on a vm machine... hehe i just pause it and save a snapshot ;)
[12:27] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: lol don't worry about that, i was more concerned to make sure it really was an ethernet port and not a confused wirless ;)
[12:27] <thoreauputic> Alpha232: actually my current uptime is unimressive - I used this box to test a live CD yesterday ;)
[12:27] <thoreauputic> *unimpressive
[12:27] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: i would think it would assign it to "wlan0" or something.  that would make more sense wouldn't it?
[12:28] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: well if you're in X. goto System->Administration->Networking
[12:28] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: well kinda...
[12:28] <virogenesis> whats a good ssh client?
[12:29] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: what ndiswrapper does is act as a middleman between the kernel and the drivers
[12:29] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: yeah, i thought it did something like that hehe
[12:29] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: so you use the tools to configure it, and the kernel just plays dumb and sees it as an ethernet port
[12:29] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: ohh i see
[12:29] <Alpha232> ok so, once you're in the Networking applet, click on the eth2 interface and properties
[12:30] <Alpha232> make sure the checkbox on enable is checked, and configuration is set for dhcp
[12:30] <nadrojtw> got it
[12:30] <Alpha232> after you do that, you can goto System->Administration->Networking Tools
[12:31] <nadrojtw> ok
[12:31] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: then select your eth2 from the Network Device list
[12:31] <nadrojtw> ohh, it was set at "loopback interface"
[12:31] <nadrojtw> does that make a difference?
[12:31] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: well network tools always starts on that device as its the first
[12:31] <nadrojtw> instead of "ethernet interface"
[12:31] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: select the eth2
[12:31] <nadrojtw> ok
[12:31] <nadrojtw> done
[12:32] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: and next to ipv4 what does it say
[12:32] <Alpha232> does it give you an ip address?
[12:32] <nadrojtw> nothing is in the ip info box
[12:32] <Alpha232> nothing at all?
[12:32] <nadrojtw> nope
[12:33] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: you're sure you're on eth2?  click on the Configure button
[12:33] <nadrojtw> it's grayed out
[12:34] <Alpha232> umm does  Network Device still show Loopback?
[12:34] <adivoinea>  hello. is there a way to install postscript (pfm/pfb) fonts on ubuntu?
[12:34] <nadrojtw> nope
[12:34] <Alpha232> ok hangon
[12:34] <nadrojtw> alrighty
[12:35] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: ok grep your syslog for wlan
[12:35] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: if that doesn't give you anything, grep for ndis
[12:35] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: whats the command for grep?
[12:36] <Alpha232> grep
[12:36] <Alpha232> open up a terminal
[12:36] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: no, i mean grep /syslog/wlan  ?
[12:36] <Alpha232> type in  grep wlan /var/log/syslog
[12:36] <nadrojtw> k
[12:37] <nadrojtw> done
[12:37] <kit^> whats the adress for the post bin
[12:37] <kit^> pastebin*
[12:37] <jatt> !pastebin
[12:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:37] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: and did it say anything about wlan0?
[12:37] <kit^> thanks jatt
[12:38] <nadrojtw> it didn't say anything in the terminal
[12:38] <Alpha232> ok... then try,     grep ndis /var/log/syslog
[12:38] <Snakehit> i'm searching for tutorials somebody have good sites?
[12:39] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: ndiswrapper loaded
[12:39] <jrib> Snakehit: tutorials for anything specific?
[12:39] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: and usbcore: registered new driver
[12:39] <Snakehit> the beginning of ubuntu
[12:39] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: a bunch of stuff
[12:39] <jujimufu> !kernel
[12:39] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:39] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: ok why not copy and paste it into paste bin...
[12:39] <jrib> Snakehit: help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com are pretty good
[12:39] <kit^> im trying to install gtkhtml and having problems as i do not recognise some of the requirements that it says and was wondering if anyone knew how to get them. Im just about to post it in the pastebin.
[12:40] <ashik> can any body help me out regarding schooltool?
[12:40] <visham> hi folks
[12:40] <Snakehit> Ok, thanks
[12:40] <visham> ho folks
[12:40] <jrib> kit^: are you installing it through synaptic or apt-get?
[12:40] <visham> hi folks
[12:40] <visham> i've got a problem
[12:40] <syntaxx> before i shift to ubuntu im using debian sarge my tvtime sound working fine.. but when i shift to ubuntu my sound have a problem no voice just buzzzzz anyone who can help me?
[12:40] <visham> i'am using lynx web browser
[12:40] <kit^> jrib: compiling self so just through terminal, downloaded the targz extracted and that occured when running the ,.configure
[12:41] <jrib> kit^: it is available in universe, why not use apt?
[12:41] <visham> and i am able to connect to my university website and not to the google site
[12:41] <visham> can anyone help
[12:42] <kit^> jrib: that is a point dont know why Im compiling it myself, will it just be apt get gtkhtml?
[12:42] <jrib> kit^: yes, that should work as long as you have enabled universe
[12:42] <Flannel> visham: I'm having problem with google too, I think theyre having rpoblems
[12:42] <jrib> visham: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/lynx/+bug/27253
[12:43] <visham> Flannel: not only to google but also to ubuntuforums.org
[12:43] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: ok, holdon
[12:43] <kit^> jrib: nah i havent where is that setting stored?
[12:43] <jrib> ubotu: tell kit^ about universe
[12:43] <richee> !universe
[12:43] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:43] <yannoickb44> hello, i have kubuntu dapper on a AMD64 and it worked fine until two days ago. Now i get a black screen just after kdm. Do you know this problem ?
[12:43] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: how does paste bin work?  i submit it on the website and it sends it to this channel?
[12:43] <richee> no nadrojtw
[12:44] <richee> u have to paste the link here
[12:44] <Alpha232> sorry was afk a second, thanks richb
[12:44] <Alpha232> er richee
[12:44] <Alpha232> sorry was doing a make menuconfig in another screen
[12:44] <richee> heh
[12:44] <nadrojtw> oh ok, hehe sorry
[12:45] <visham> how to change the console colors in Ubuntu??
[12:45] <visham> from white on black to white on blue
[12:45] <Elios> ok i have my friend loged in to my box how can i see what there typeing
[12:45] <jrib> visham: edit > current profile
[12:46] <visham> jrib: when the gdm is off
[12:46] <visham> jrib: no gnome, kde etc
[12:46] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20962
[12:46] <xukun> richiefrich, I installed kino but it says "The IEEE 1394 Subsystem is not responding. The raw1394 module must be loaded, and you must have read and write access to /dev/raw1394"
[12:47] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: looking
[12:47] <richiefrich> xukun  thats firewire
[12:47] <ookami> ok, having issues here... is it required to go from 23 to 26 kernel? ... .
[12:47] <richiefrich> xukun do u have firewire on that camcorder ?
[12:47] <jrib> visham: not sure how to do that myself
[12:48] <ookami> i just ran the update manager, and it added a kernel... but now ndiswrapper wont work without seg faulting.
[12:48] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: those are the only output for ndis?
[12:48] <Alpha232> hmm
[12:48] <Elios> any one
[12:48] <xukun> richiefrich, yes
[12:48] <visham> hey can anyone tell me how to change the console colors(no gnome, kde etc ie., when gdm is off)?
[12:48] <ashik> can any body help me installing schooltool?
[12:48] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: that was all that came up when i did the grap ndis
[12:48] <kit^> jrib: it says apt is a command not found in bash?!?!
[12:48] <ookami> curses.... now my keyboard wont work.
[12:48] <Elios> is there a way to see what another user is doing ?
[12:49] <thoreauputic> ookami: you probably need the modules for the new kernel - but you should still be able to use the old one by choosing it  from the grub menu
[12:49] <jrib> kit^: sudo apt-get install gtkhtml
[12:49] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: ok at the command prompt,  type in    sudo rmmod ndiswrapper
[12:49] <nadrojtw> done
[12:49] <richiefrich> then u might need  to modprobe some modules
[12:49] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: now did you install the drivers off the CD or did yo udownload them from the website?
[12:49] <Elios> yes no?
[12:49] <visham> hey can anyone tell me how to change the console colors(no gnome, kde etc ie., when gdm is off)?
[12:49] <kit^> jrib: says couldnt find the package?
[12:49] <ookami> thoreauputic,  could you explain me that in a little more detail pelase ?
[12:50] <jrib> kit^: are you using dapper?
[12:50] <kit^> jrib: i am
[12:50] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: from the cd.  i have no internet connection on the ubuntu-installed computer :P
[12:50] <jrib> !info gtkhtml
[12:50] <ubotu> gtkhtml: HTML rendering/editing library - bonobo component binary.. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.10-9 (dapper), package size 180 kB, installed size 836 kB
[12:50] <thoreauputic> ookami: you might have the new kernel without the new restricted modules package
[12:50] <Elios> errr
[12:50] <jrib> kit^: it should be there after adding universe.  Can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us a link?
[12:50] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: ok i don't know what the CD directory structure is like... did you find a directory on there called NDIS5?
[12:50] <kit^> ok hang on two ticks
[12:50] <Elios> any one....
[12:50] <kit^> ill just try once more
[12:51] <visham> hey can anyone tell me how to change the console colors(no gnome, kde etc ie., when gdm is off)?
[12:51] <thoreauputic> ookami: install linux-image-386 or whatever your arch is to pull in restricted modules
[12:51] <kit^> jrib: do you want all of it or just the universe section?
[12:51] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: i just installed their synaptic
[12:51] <jrib> kit^: all of it is fine
[12:51] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: through*
[12:51] <ashik> can any body help me installing schooltool?
[12:51] <jrib> !info schooltool
[12:51] <ubotu> schooltool: common platform for school administration. In component main, is optional. Version 0.11.4-1build1 (dapper), package size 31 kB, installed size 180 kB
[12:51] <Elios> kit^: do you know if theres a way to see another users consol
[12:52] <ookami> thoreauputic, to do that, i have to uncomment the sources.list ?
[12:52] <visham> hey can anyone tell me how to change the console colors(no gnome, kde etc ie., when gdm is off)?
[12:52] <jrib> ashik: system > administration > synaptic, then select schooltool.  Is that not working?
[12:52] <thoreauputic> ookami: no, you shouldn't need to
[12:52] <thoreauputic> ookami: it's in main - it depends on restricted modules
[12:52] <kit^> Elios: only way i can think of its remote desktop kind of thing
[12:52] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: how do you mean you installed it through synaptic?
[12:52] <Elios> yea
[12:52] <Elios> via ssh
[12:52] <thoreauputic> erm actually it would be in restricted I guess
[12:53] <ashik> well i have not tried that yet
[12:53] <esperegu> saluton chiuj!
[12:53] <visham> hey can anyone tell me how to change the console colors(no gnome, kde etc ie., when gdm is off)?
[12:53] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: ndiswrapper is just a tool, you have to tell it to install your drivers by doing...   ndiswrapper -i mydriver.inf
[12:53] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: i searched for ndis and it found it.  it was listed as "ndiswrapper-utils"
[12:53] <kit^> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20963
[12:53] <thoreauputic> !info linux-image-386
[12:53] <ubotu> linux-image-386: Linux kernel image on 386.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[12:53] <Elios> there no way to see what there doing then? from my ssh
[12:53] <thoreauputic> no it is in main
[12:53] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: ok but that only installs the tools, not the driver for your card
[12:53] <esperegu>  gnome-cups-icon is eating all my CPU... how can I make sure that it doesn't????????
[12:53] <maverick> hola wuenas
[12:53] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: so if you cd is in the drive, cd to /cdrom and type ls
[12:54] <ookami> thoreauputic, so wait, i log in, then go to synaptic and pick linux-image ? ....
[12:54] <visham> hey can anyone tell me how to change the console colors(no gnome, kde etc ie., when gdm is off)?
[12:54] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: i know.  then i did ndiswrapper -i ./filename.inf
[12:54] <Alpha232> you should see some stuff listed
[12:54] <thoreauputic> ookami: if you have a 686 or k7 kernel or whatever substitute accordingly
[12:54] <nadrojtw> ok
[12:54] <maverick> hola
[12:54] <jrib> kit^: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gtkhtml
[12:54] <kit^> Elios: not that i know of but there are far more knowledgable people on this matter then myself in here.
[12:54] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: which .inf file did you pick?
[12:54] <kit^> jrib: run those two commands?
[12:54] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: i believe it was netwg111.inf
[12:54] <raavi> Does anyone has success in getting sound on Acer Aspire 1640z?
[12:55] <jrib> kit^: you can just put all that on one line
[12:55] <thoreauputic> ookami: yes, search for linux-image - note that linux-image-386 is not the same as linux-image-$(uname -r)
[12:55] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: in what directory?
[12:55] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: i moved the device driver folder into my /tmp folder.  then i CDed to it and used the .inf file
[12:55] <jrib> kit^: && runs the second command if the first one succeeded, it's a way to run two commands on the same line
[12:55] <ookami> thoreauputic, is that under the advanced options of synaptic? ...
[12:55] <kit^> jrib: thank you very much my friend,
[12:56] <thoreauputic> ookami: what architecture is your kernel? The easiest way is a one line command in the terminal
[12:56] <Phirax_On_Laptop> ok stupid question, where do firefox plugind go, i'm not farmiliar with firefox
[12:57] <thoreauputic> ookami: if you have the 686 kernel installed fro instance, you do sudo apt-get install linux-image-686
[12:57] <jrib> Phirax_On_Laptop: /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ or ~/.mozilla/plugins/ for users.  But there should be no reason to install them manually, use synaptic or apt-get instead
[12:57] <ookami> 386 i believe.
[12:57] <ookami> thoreauputic, that s already installed.
[12:57] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: ok you might need to follow the directions for the v2 one... at that same url i gave you... there are some known issues with v2...
[12:57] <richiefrich> !kernel > xukun
[12:57] <raavi>  Does anyone has success in getting sound on Acer Aspire 1640z?
[12:57] <Phirax_On_Laptop> jrib: oh can't use the script, i got AMD64 not i386
[12:57] <thoreauputic> ookami: this way each time the kernel is updated that package pulls in the restricted modules ( at least in theory)
[12:57] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: there is also an "autorun.inf"
[12:58] <jrib> Phirax_On_Laptop: which plugin?
[12:58] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: would that make a difference?
[12:58] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: but i hate to say this, you might want to invest in a linux suppoted wireless card...
[12:58] <FirstStrike> or just go to https://addons.mozilla.org/plugins Phirax_On_Laptop
[12:58] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: no thats just for windows to startup the installer
[12:58] <kit^> jrib: to then update my version of gtkhtml can i do that through apt as well?
[12:58] <labor> someone knows if it possible to download streaming video?
[12:58] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: hehe, yeah, i just wanted to see if i could get an internet connection tonight.  what wireless card would you recommend?
[12:58] <Phirax_On_Laptop> jrib: flashplayer
[12:58] <thoreauputic> ookami: check  apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[12:59] <thoreauputic> ookami: if not installed, install them
[12:59] <ookami> ok brb.
[12:59] <nic> When I open synaptic I get this: E: Problem parsing dependency Depends
[12:59] <nic> E: Error occurred while processing fstobdf (NewVersion1)
[12:59] <nic> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status
[12:59] <nic> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[12:59] <nic> And I can't get packages..
[12:59] <Alpha232> nadrojtw: best to check the forums for that... i am hardwired, except for my laptop which runs XP.. i just happen to run ubuntu under XL
[12:59] <jrib> kit^: yes, you can just do 'sudo apt-get install gtkhtml' if you want to install the latest package of gtkhtml.  But the updates that you get with the update-manager should cover it too so you don't need to worry about just updating that package
[12:59] <Alpha232> er XP
[01:00] <nic> Can anyone help me?
[01:00] <[A] ndy80> hi
[01:00] <Elios> so theres no way to echo the other users console to mine?
[01:00] <nadrojtw> Alpha232: oh ok.  well i really appreciate your help!  thanks a lot!
[01:00] <ookami> thoreauputic it says something about unexpected token.
[01:00] <jrib> Phirax_On_Laptop: oh, you are right, there isn't a flash plugin for amd64.  You have to setup a 32bit version somehow right?
[01:00] <thoreauputic> ookami: you got the syntax wrong then :)
[01:00] <Phirax_On_Laptop> jrib: yeah somehow
[01:00] <ookami> thoreauputic: "apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)"
[01:01] <[A] ndy80> I need to add to my Ubuntu a printer shared via samba. I'm trying to use the wizard in control panel, but I don't know the exact parameters (host, printername ecc...) how can I get them?
[01:01] <kit^> jrib: whats the commands to check versions again?
[01:01] <thoreauputic> ookami: no quotes
[01:01] <jrib> kit^: apt-cache policy package_name
[01:01] <[A] ndy80> is there a way to "browse" the network and look for the printer?
[01:01] <Phirax_On_Laptop> jrib i guess i can always just drop back to i386, AMD64 is pretty restrictive, like i can't use opera
[01:01] <thoreauputic> apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[01:01] <nic> Can anyone help me?
[01:02] <ookami> ok, i see many things there what am i looking for?
[01:02] <bimberi> nic: does a Reload (in Synaptic) help?
[01:02] <thoreauputic> ookami: whether it says installed
[01:02] <nic> bimberi: no
[01:02] <jrib> !flash > Phirax_On_Laptop
[01:02] <Khamael> does anybody know when flash 9 for linux is released?
[01:02] <thoreauputic> ookami: if not, install it
[01:02] <ookami> thoreauputic: installed: 2.6.15.11-3
[01:03] <thoreauputic> ookami: OK well you have them it seems
[01:03] <raavi> Help needed, to get the sound on Acer Aspire 1640z
[01:03] <asparagus> I can't seem to access my samba share from mac osx even with security = share, any help is appreciated
[01:03] <jrib> Phirax_On_Laptop: the wiki has some comments on flash on amd64, but if you are into multimedia a lot, I'd say it's just easier to stick with the i386 version of ubuntu
[01:03] <nic> It doesn't show any packages at all, even when you click reload
[01:03] <thoreauputic> ookami: so someone who knows ndiswrapper or whatever needs to help you now
[01:03] <nic> I tried that dpkg --configure -a but it gave error
[01:03] <jrib> Khamael: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[01:04] <ookami> hmm,.. k thanks.
[01:04] <n1tr0us> why isnt my site workin
[01:04] <frogzoo> Elios: ttysnoop
[01:05] <Protocol1> what ports does vnc use?
[01:05] <ookami> ok at least this time it didnt take down my keyboard ^_^ im going to try making a new ndiswrapper under the new kernel... if that makes a diff.
[01:05] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work
[01:05] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[01:06] <[miles] > afternoon #ubuntu... is there away to get Ubuntu to rescan and create the xorg.conf? I've got intergrated gfx on this laptop, and now ive increased the memory for gfx, and want to increase the resolution...
[01:06] <bimberi> nic: try editing /etc/apt/apt.conf and adding a line with >>APT::Cache-Limit "10000000"<<   (no >> or <<)
[01:06] <bimberi> [miles] : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:06] <mo^> how is the gtk-theme-option called to flash e.g. the gaim-window when a new message arrives?
[01:06] <thoreauputic> bimberi: you type faster than me :)
[01:07] <[miles] > bimberi: thanks, best done without X running?
[01:07] <kit^> jrib: installed the program i wanted now but it isnt coming up as a bash command. therefore whats the best way to open it??
[01:07] <n1tr0us> www.gfxfor.us doesnt work
[01:07] <n1tr0us> I'm hosting it from my thing
[01:07] <bimberi> [miles] : no can be done under X, will apply at next restart
[01:07] <nic> bimberi: there is no /etc/apt/apt.conf
[01:08] <bimberi> [miles] : of X
[01:08] <catadoxas> someones got a good ip_tables tutorial for me?
[01:08] <bimberi> thoreauputic: :)
[01:08] <thoreauputic> n1tr0us: could you possibly be more vahue?
[01:08] <thoreauputic> *vague
[01:08] <n1tr0us> For some reason I cant upload anything
[01:08] <n1tr0us> I'm runnigng it with apche
[01:09] <thoreauputic> n1tr0us: from which "thing"? what errors? what are you trying to do?
[01:09] <jrib> kit^: try 'dpkg -L gtkhtml | grep bin' for some hints.  I'm not familiar with it
[01:09] <bimberi> nic:i think you can just create the file then
[01:09] <n1tr0us> thoreauputic: i'm trying to upload things to the server hosted on my computer
[01:09] <nic> bimberi: and put what?
[01:10] <bimberi> nic: >>APT::Cache-Limit "10000000"<<   (no >> or <<)
[01:10] <[miles] > thanks bbiam
[01:10] <kit^> jrib: yeh im not familiar with it either i just had to install it so i could install another program
[01:10] <thoreauputic> n1tr0us: ah - wel if it's hosted on your computer you cn just copy the files to the relevant directory, no?
[01:10] <baikonur> hi
[01:10] <_eckobar_> hi everybody!
[01:11] <jrib> kit^: you shouldn't ahve to worry about that if the other program is in the repositories.  What program?
[01:11] <kit^> gnomesword
[01:11] <jrib> !info gnomesword
[01:11] <ubotu> gnomesword: Bible study with GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.5-1 (dapper), package size 1858 kB, installed size 3036 kB
[01:11] <baikonur> what is a recommened size for the / partition without the home directories?
[01:11] <jrib> kit^: sudo apt-get install gnomesword, should work
[01:11] <n1tr0us> thoreauputic: i'm using ftp and it wont work
[01:12] <[A] ndy80> I followed this howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter but it doesn't work...
[01:12] <kit^> jrib: i installed it using aptget eventually as was going to compile my self but then decided to use apt worked but when i try typing in gnome sword didnt wanna work ??
[01:12] <thoreauputic> baikonur: are you using other partitions as well?
[01:12] <_eckobar_> could anybody help me. i have the following problem. ubuntu 6.06 standard desktop install. i want to connect to a port for test purpose via telnet but connection is refused. the pc is ping able and the port 631 is state listen(found with netstat -an).
[01:12] <nic> bimberi: E: Syntax error /etc/apt/apt.conf:2: Extra junk at end of file
[01:12] <esperegu>  gnome-cups-icon is eating all my CPU... how can I make sure that it doesn't????????
[01:12] <thoreauputic> n1tr0us: why are you using ftp to put things in a directory on your local box? Or is it a remote server?
[01:12] <catadoxas> haha
[01:12] <n1tr0us> Its a remote server
[01:12] <jrib> kit^: gnomesword2 seems to be the command, does that work?  It should also have shown up in your menu somewhere
[01:13] <thoreauputic> n1tr0us: if it's a remote box, does it have an ftp server running?
[01:13] <baikonur> thoreauputic: I would create one partition for the swap file one for /home and one for the rest, and I want to know what a good size for the rest is
[01:13] <Crazed> Hi I need help :p
[01:13] <Crazed> sudo synaptic
[01:13] <Crazed> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:13] <kit^> jrib: ah finally found it in my menu thank you bbro
[01:13] <n1tr0us> thoreauputic I cant change the start page from ftp
[01:14] <bimberi> nic: put a  ;  at the end of the line (sorry)
[01:14] <thoreauputic> baikonur: depends how much extra software you want to install - I would suggest / of around 10 Gig if possible ( assuming you want plenty of space to play with)
[01:14] <thoreauputic> n1c0las: you didn't answer the question
[01:14] <baikonur> ok, thank you
[01:14] <nic> bimberi: It still gives me the same errors
[01:15] <ookami> how do i fix make not found? ...
[01:15] <Crazed> ..
[01:15] <jrib> !compile > ookami
[01:15] <supercow> I am trying to fix my server
 Hi I need help :p
 sudo synaptic
 synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
 jrib: ah finally found it in my menu thank you bbro
[01:15] <ubuntu> Check me out
[01:15] <thoreauputic> supercow: do you have an ftp server on the box?
[01:15] <Crazed> some one help pls .. :)
[01:16] <ubuntu> WHos supercow
[01:16] <ubuntu> I'm ubuntu
[01:16] <ubuntu> I run myself
[01:16] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: please stop the nick changing
[01:16] <ubuntu> And so does my server
[01:16] <ubuntu> And I do have an ftp box
[01:16] <jrib> Crazed: is libvte4 installed?
[01:16] <Crazed> yep
[01:16] <Crazed> already reinstalled
[01:17] <jrib> Crazed: does /usr/lib/libvte.so.4 exist?
[01:17] <Crazed> nope
[01:17] <whoppix> hey guys, look at this! gnome is re-inventing the rules of geometry :D http://rpp.rp.funpic.de/screens/2006.08.18-1238.png
[01:18] <jrib> Crazed: how did you reinstall libvte4?
[01:18] <ubuntu> Gnome sucks
[01:18] <Crazed> erm
[01:18] <esperegu> I keep getting open windows when I login ... how can I  get rid of that?
[01:18] <ubuntu> XGE is where its at
[01:18] <Crazed> it happend before that ..
[01:18] <CarinArr> crazed, what does "dpkg -L libvte4" say?
[01:18] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: stop trolling
[01:18] <Crazed> tried to reinstall after synaptic failed to run
[01:18] <bimberi> nic: hmm - do you have lots of entries in your sources.list?
[01:18] <Crazed> --reinstall with apt-get
[01:18] <gilan> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libvte.so.9 /usr/lib/libvte.so.4
[01:19] <ubuntu> Wha...?
[01:19] <Ubuntu-Bot> Welcome to #ubuntu
[01:19] <Crazed> /usr/lib/libvte.so.9
[01:19] <Crazed> ..
[01:19] <yum> Hi all, I read that you can filter spam from evolution with spamassassin. Is this a good solution or is other software doing a better job?
[01:19] <nic> bimberi: Nope
[01:20] <esperegu> How to stop programs/windows appearing at login? It looks like ubuntu keeps restoring an old session. How to get rid of the windows?????
[01:20] <h3ck3r> ok, so I try to reboot on my PC with my old ubuntu menu.lst file and initrd and all, and while it boots normally, I get to the screen with the blueish kubuntu logo and the loading bar below, and it says the usual stuff like "Starting Network     Ok" etc etc, but then, after all of this finishes, I get to the same screen, with the loading bar empty, and writing nothing below and doing absolutely nothing. It just freezes there., Any ideas?
[01:20] <whoppix> esperegu, have a look at system>settings>sessions
[01:20] <bimberi> nic: sorry, i'm stumped at the moment :(
[01:21] <jrib> Crazed: did it reinstall successfully?  can you try 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install libvte4' again since that file doesn't appear to have been installed?
[01:21] <nic> Aww, guess I have to reinstall? using breezy anyways
[01:22] <Crazed> hrm
[01:22] <Crazed> wierd..
[01:22] <Crazed> I already did that :p
[01:22] <Crazed> but ok
[01:22] <Crazed> thx working now
[01:22] <esperegu> whoppix: thx
[01:22] <CBMz> Hi
[01:22] <agniss> guys whta's the name of the totem avi plugin ?
[01:22] <HanzZ> hi... i can use my TV card only as root... how can i set privilege for user?
[01:22] <CBMz> I have a Leadtek Winfast TV2000XP, and i want to set it up.
[01:22] <CBMz> How?
[01:22] <Crazed> btw .. icc: command not found
[01:23] <Crazed> what should I install for it ?
[01:23] <bimberi> blah, thought of another q for nic :/
[01:24] <zanpakuto> hello i have a mount point owned by a use, what should be the option in fstab so that when I mount the partition attributes are retained?
[01:25] <mp3guy> on random intervals when ubuntu boots it can't find certain files and sometimes doesn't even load some things, does this mean ext3 is messed up?
[01:25] <ookami> is there any reason i need this new kernel 26 ? ...
[01:26] <vontux> anybody in here have any ideas what could have been damaged in my configuration after changing mac addresses so that gnome-network manager wouldn't work anymore?
[01:26] <thoreauputic> ookami: probably not - check ubuntu.com/usn and read what the new one fixes
[01:26] <CBMz> Hi, how do i set my Winfast TV2000XP?
[01:27] <Nubuntu> im having some troubles getting my video working
[01:27] <lamego> Nubuntu, what is the video card ?
[01:27] <Nubuntu> damn its quite in here
[01:28] <ookami> bah i cant make heads or tales of that.
[01:28] <Nubuntu> well its a TN4NUB
[01:28] <ookami> thanks though
[01:28] <Nubuntu> i bought it from a bear
[01:28] <lamego> thats an old nvidia ?
[01:28] <Nubuntu> in the forest
[01:28] <thoreauputic> ookami: looks like it is just a local security update -if youhave no local attackers you can probably use the old kernel
[01:28] <Nubuntu> i think he scratched it with his claws
[01:29] <thoreauputic> ookami: local attackers don't include your brother or the cat ;)
[01:29] <Nubuntu> my brother is a cat
[01:30] <Elios> my cat is a cat
[01:30] <Elios> >.>
[01:30] <thoreauputic> Nubuntu: welcome to Red Dwarf ;)
[01:30] <Elios> she sleeps on the monitor
[01:30] <Nubuntu> anyways a big lion is coming
[01:30] <Nubuntu> i better go
[01:30] <Nubuntu> before he eats me
[01:31] <sioux> people winetools is not available trough repos do i compile it?
[01:32] <ookami> is it mandatory to have the networking in order to get build essential? i tried and it said it could not resolv host...
[01:33] <lamego> ookami, build essential is included on the instalaltion cd, at least on the desktp/alternate cd
[01:33] <ookami> its requestng an unavailable package...
[01:33] <thoreauputic> ookami: build-esential is on the CD - check if your sources include your CD
[01:33] <mrpaps> is it possible to change the refresh rate of your screen?
[01:34] <ookami> checking.
[01:34] <lamego> ookami, do you have the cd repository setup ?
[01:34] <lamego> if you don't have network you should disable the network respositories
[01:34] <lamego> sioux, have you tried with the .tar.gz version ?
[01:35] <sioux> lamego no not yet
[01:35] <chendo__> how easy is it to get a vpn server setup on ubuntu?
[01:36] <pontifex> chendo__: openvpn is quite easy
[01:36] <lamego> sioux, i am checking it also
[01:36] <sioux> lamego should be nice trough synaptic
[01:36] <ookami> lamego, thoreaputic, it says: some of the packages could not be retrieved from the server/s do you want to continue anyway? ...
[01:36] <chendo__> pontifex, got a good howto? or a good howto for ubuntu stuff in general?
[01:36] <ookami> its reading off the cd.
[01:36] <lamego> sioux, i dont believe there is a ubuntu debian package for it
[01:36] <pontifex> chendo__: google is your friend openvpn.net/howto.html
[01:36] <lamego> ookami, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:37] <lamego> comment all the network based repositores
[01:37] <thoreauputic> ookami: as far as I know you can install build-essential from the CD
[01:37] <lamego> then run sudo apt-get update
[01:37] <chendo__> pontifex, was hoping for something ubuntu-specific or something ;p
[01:37] <ChrisNiemy> Problems starting Synaptic and gnome-terminal after Update :(
[01:38] <ChrisNiemy> like mentioned in this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238668   the solution for this problem is sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libvte.so.9 /usr/lib/libvte.so.4
[01:39] <ChrisNiemy> anyone else this problem?
[01:39] <crazy_penguin> Good afternoon everyone!
[01:39] <_thumper_> ok, trying to remove ipv6
[01:39] <_thumper_> added to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:39] <ookami> sources.list network based commented out... build-essential is now installed.
[01:40] <ookami> ^_^
[01:40] <_thumper_> but it is still there!!!
[01:40] <lostinc> I have accidentally installed a package. I would like to fully uninstall it. It also installed 2 dep packages when it installed itself. Is there a way to either rollback or to do a full uninstall of the app and deps?
[01:40] <_thumper_> rebooted even
[01:41] <lamego> sioux, i am creating a deb package for you
[01:41] <ookami> gaoo! i issued command sudo make install, for ndiswrapper from source, and now its saying can not find kernel build files in /lib/modiles/......blah blah....
[01:41] <lamego> ookami, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname-r`
[01:42] <misieq> what's the name of the text utility that supplied with "-d x" as delimiter and "-f1" as offset would split string at delimiter and print only offset column? because i've forgotten :(
[01:42] <lamego> misieq, cut ?
[01:42] <misieq> lamego: ahh :)
[01:42] <misieq> thanks :)
[01:43] <ookami> couldent find  linux-headers-`uname-r`
[01:43] <lamego> uname<space>-r
[01:43] <sioux> seems winetools is available here http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/
[01:43] <thoreauputic> ookami: because you are using a newer kernel than the one on the disc
[01:44] <sioux> but no deb packet
[01:44] <ookami> oh! duh... damn.
[01:44] <ookami> hmm...
[01:44] <lamego> sioux, i am creating a .deb from that site :)
[01:44] <thoreauputic> lamego: he has -26 and the disc has -23 or similar - he has no network
[01:44] <lamego> ok, so he is in troubles :D
[01:44] <thoreauputic> inded
[01:44] <thoreauputic> *indeed
[01:44] <ookami> i can transver via usb pen...
[01:45] <sioux> lamego and once done is it usable for ubuntu?
[01:45] <thoreauputic> ookami: look on packages.ubuntu.com then and d/l it from there
[01:45] <lamego> sioux, yes, i am building it on/for ubuntu dapper
[01:45] <sioux> :-)
[01:45] <ookami> so i look for: linux-headers-`uname-r` right?
[01:45] <sioux> this means that it will be available trough synaptic repos?
[01:45] <lamego> ookami, type echo linux-headers-`uname-r`
[01:46] <lamego> sioux, no, because i can't upload/add them to the repository, but you can click on the link to install it
[01:46] <lamego> ookami, uname -r is the command that returns your kernel version
[01:46] <thoreauputic> ookami: the `uname -r` is the exact designation
[01:46] <esalas> WENAS
[01:47] <thoreauputic> ookami: so the package has to match uname -r
[01:47] <sioux> lamego ok what's the link?
[01:47] <lamego> sioux, ftp://ftp.sunsite.dk/projects/ptlink/ubuntu/debs/winetools-0.9jo-iii_3-1_i386.deb
[01:47] <lamego> but, please have in mind, that you are trusting me
[01:47] <lamego> i could have packaged an harmfull software
[01:47] <sioux> waoo  you surprise me :-)
[01:48] <tjm> lamego: but that leads to the question, why would you of mentioned that you could be :P
[01:48] <lamego> :P
[01:49] <ookami> echo linux-headers-`uname-r' just returns me: linux-headers-uname-r
[01:49] <lamego> sioux, let me know if it worked, to run you will need to use "wt" on the terminal
[01:49] <lamego> I have never used winetools
[01:49] <sioux> lamego ok wait I will do
[01:49] <lamego> ookami, you are not using the proper ` symbol`
[01:50] <lamego> it is ` `  and not `'
[01:50] <ookami> the one below the " ? ...
[01:50] <thoreauputic> ookami: or use   echo linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:50] <lamego> my keyboard is different :P
[01:50] <lamego> well, the $() syntax is easier :P
[01:51] <sioux> lamego i am installing just now the deb wait
[01:51] <ookami> oh! that number... heh... i had that wrote down already.
[01:51] <thoreauputic> ookami: the others are backticks ( on the top left key for a US keynoard)
[01:51] <thoreauputic> *keyboard
[01:51] <sioux> lamego ok the deb were installed correctly now wait for wt
[01:51] <thoreauputic> lamego: the $() syntax is more readable :)
[01:52] <lamego> yup, is just i am more used to `` :|
[01:52] <thoreauputic> :)
[01:52] <RamiKassab> hey guys there's a prompt that just popped up that says "Warning - If you have a router/firewall, please check that you have port 49401 UDP open. Decentralised tracking requires this" It popped up after installing Azureus but when I click the Hide button, it wont go away. Is there any other way to get rid of this?
[01:52] <ookami> so, now i go get kernel build.... umm.. damn forgot already. brb.
[01:52] <[sharma] > how can one install a source patch in gz format (like this http://nopaste.php-q.net/233302 )
[01:52] <sioux> lamego i get this error /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:52] <RamiKassab> it shows up on all of my desktops too an it's annoying the shit out of me
[01:53] <lamego> RamiKassab, do you have a router/firewall ?
[01:53] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: known issue - I just go File -Quit and restart azureus
[01:53] <ookami> thoreauputic, kernel build files would be under the development section right?
[01:53] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: you need to forward the ports required
[01:53] <lamego> sioux, hum, i must have installed some libs that you dont
[01:53] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: I don't know of any firewall that's setup on this machine though
[01:54] <thoreauputic> ookami: easiest way to find packages is to use the search on packages.ubuntu.com if that's what you mean
[01:54] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: I need to do this on the router you mean?
[01:54] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: yes, on the router
[01:54] <lamego> sioux, you will need to install libgtk1.2
[01:54] <lamego> thats available on synaptic
[01:54] <sioux> jap i have 2.0
[01:54] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: oh, not sure I want to do that. If I just apt-get remove azureus, will the prompt go away?
[01:54] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: there should be an interface for setting port forwarding
[01:54] <lamego> this is an old program which uses 1.2
[01:54] <lamego> or
[01:55] <lamego> you can install Xdialog
[01:55] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: well, if you remove it you won't have the app - I assume you want to do bittorrent with it:)
[01:55] <lamego> and replace that file with the one installed
[01:55] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: yeah basic torrent though. gnome has a built in torrent app right?
[01:55] <sioux> but lamego there is a guide that teach me how do the same you did?
[01:55] <tuxtux> reboot
[01:56] <ookami> thoreauputic, is the search function working? i keep getting Error: keyword not valid or missing
[01:56] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: either that or enable UpnP in azureus - most routers do UpnP and open ports for you automatically
[01:56] <lamego> sioux, well, you need to know different things to do the same i did
[01:56] <lamego> first you need to know that a .tar.gz is just like a zipe, it contains a bunch of files, which maybe binaries or source, or data files
[01:56] <sioux> lamego ok I will install you version of lib
[01:57] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: ok so I removed azureus but the damn prompt is still there. azureus wasn't even open when it popped up!
[01:57] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: sudo killall java
[01:57] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: that fixed it :)
[01:57] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: or find the java process with ps aux | grep java and kill it
[01:57] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: damn that prompt is annoying
[01:57] <lamego> sioux, faster than going to synaptic: open a terminal and paste: sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2
[01:57] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: agreed
[01:58] <fridge> is there a way to dist-downgrade from edgy to dapper?
[01:58] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: it's a known bug that it won't go away - I assume the next version will be fixed
[01:58] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: so is there another torrent client out there that lets me better throttle upload slots and speeds than azureus?
[01:58] <lamego> fridge, no
[01:58] <fridge> bugger
[01:58] <lamego> fridge, I hope you were not expecting to "work" with edgy :)
[01:58] <thoreauputic> fridge: not without ubergeek powers and much pain
[01:58] <fridge> haha
[01:58] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: I used to use bitlord for windows
[01:58] <fridge> I ran debian unstable for years
[01:59] <fridge> never gave me as much trouble as edgy has
[01:59] <wahjava> hi channel
[01:59] <lamego> fridge, edgy is not like debian unstable
[01:59] <fridge> live and learn I guess :)
[01:59] <lamego> fridge, ubuntu release cycles are not debian release cycles
[01:59] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: I don't know - azureus has a lot of options if you choose "advanced" - also read the azureus wiki FAQ
[01:59] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: ok I'll check it out, I appreciate the hlp
[02:00] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: you can adjust most things
[02:00] <wahjava> how do I use PAM to authenticate users from Postfix mail server
[02:00] <wahjava> I'm following this: http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html
[02:00] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: hey you may be able to help me out with this, how do you setup and extended desktop in ubuntu?
[02:00] <fredl> Dapper's included ATI driver IS the official ATI driver, correct?
[02:00] <wahjava> but don't know where to place smtpd.conf
[02:00] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: there's also #azureus-support IIRC
[02:00] <sioux> lamego wt says that winetools is tested with wine0.9. i use different version and the results may be unpredictable
[02:00] <lamego> RamiKassab, could you be more clear about your question ?
[02:00] <wahjava> I'm running on Dapper "amd64"
[02:01] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: heh - no idea - I have a vanilla 17" crt here and a tiny laptop :)
[02:01] <RamiKassab> lamego: I have a second monitor that I connect to this laptop and I would like to extend my desktop to it when I connect it
[02:01] <lamego> sioux, it shouldn't be harmfull....
[02:01] <sioux> lamego ok I am going on with the configuration seems working
[02:01] <Ropechoborra> Someone can help me to configure my telnet service?
[02:01] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: heh but you're only using one as a primary monitor?
[02:01] <lamego> sioux, btw, why do you want winetools for ?
[02:02] <lamego> Ropechoborra, could you be more clear on your question ? You shoulde use sshd instead of telnet
[02:02] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: yes, i use synergy to have both screens mouse and keyboard connected :)
[02:02] <sioux> for configurung wine with all it's config files and programns
[02:02] <lamego> ok, i have used wine and never needed wintools (yet)
[02:02] <lamego> :P
[02:03] <Ropechoborra> Ok then i'll try with sshd
[02:03] <ookami> is it me? or is the search function here not working?
[02:03] <ookami> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[02:03] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: so you are cloning the screen then? i'm confused? is the crt monitor connected as a second monitor to the desktop?
[02:03] <lamego> Ropechoborra, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[02:03] <troughton> can anyone tell me where to find the file that the run comand works off ?
[02:03] <SirKillalot> what could be the problem when I'm no longer able to change my gtk-1.2 theme with switch or programs like that?
[02:03] <sioux> lamego winetools is fantastic!
[02:03] <RamiKassab> lamego: so do you have any idea on how to extend the desktop to another monitor
[02:03] <lisi> Hello, how can I remove a package with apt and its dependencies ?
[02:03] <Ropechoborra> ty
[02:04] <RamiKassab> lisi: sudo apt-get remove package
[02:04] <lamego> RamiKassab, no, look on the forums, there is more change you can find prople with dual monitor configuration
[02:04] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: simpler than that - if the laptop is running I have it independent, and use the same keyboard and mouse for both by using the synergy program
[02:04] <lamego> lisi, apt-get remove does not remove dependencies
[02:04] <lamego> lisi, use apt-get aptitude remove
[02:04] <fredl> so how come there's not an official ATI 8.27.10 package for ubuntu yet?
[02:05] <lamego> fredl, does that package contains security fixes ?
[02:05] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: so for instance I might have KDE or fluxbox running on one, and gnome on the other, but the keyboard and mouse work for both at once
[02:05] <lisi> lamego, for example "sudo apt-get aptitude remove ekiga "
[02:05] <lisi> ok?
[02:05] <RamiKassab> lamego: oh sorry, does that check to make sure the dependencies aren't needed by other applications?
[02:05] <lamego> RamiKassab, yes it does, it will only remove if no other package depends on it
[02:05] <thoreauputic> lisi: that command won't work :)
[02:05] <SirKillalot> what could be the problem when I'm no longer able to change my gtk-1.2 theme with switch or programs like that?
[02:05] <troughton> in run is there a text file that predicts the command ?
[02:06] <fredl> lamego: I don't know, but the official driver is buggy it would seem.
[02:06] <thoreauputic> lisi: either  sudo aptitude remove  or sudo apt-get remove
[02:06] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: weird, and the keyboard and mouse work on both at the same time or do you have to select which one to control... kind of like a KVM switch?
[02:06] <lisi> thoreauputic, so how I can remove program and its dependencies ?
[02:06] <RamiKassab> lamego: good to know
[02:06] <jrib> troughton: what do you mean by 'run'?
[02:06] <fredl> lamego: although I must admit not knowing whether the new version does not have the bug I'm experincing (yet)
[02:06] <ikaruga> hello all, got a question with my apache2 config. Where is the .conf file that sets /var/www/ as the default DocumentRoot?
[02:06] <lamego> fredl, I am using the current ubuntu ati driver on my RADEON 9600 without problems
[02:06] <ikaruga> it's not in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[02:06] <troughton> jrib when you press alt f2 it brings up the run comand
[02:06] <thoreauputic> lisi: sudo aptitude remove program ( but only if it was installed with aptitude) else you can use deborphan or debfoster
[02:07] <RamiKassab> lisi: lamego just said you can use "sudo apt-get aptitude remove package"
[02:07] <lamego> fredl, ubuntu update policy is not to have the latest, is just to add security or functional bug fixes
[02:07] <fredl> lamego: The current driver completely hoses my system with X700 pro card. It's detected alright, comes up fine, but after a while there's lots of trashing.
[02:07] <jrib> troughton: I'm pretty sure that just completes based on what is in your $PATH
[02:07] <lamego> thoreauputic, aptitude only removes dependencies if the install was also with it ?
[02:07] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: that 's what "synergy" does
[02:07] <lisi> thnak you.
[02:07] <thoreauputic> lamego: yup
[02:07] <lamego> i thaught it would check, deborphan alike :\
[02:07] <troughton> where would i find that ??
[02:07] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: it's a very cool little program :)
[02:08] <jrib> troughton: 'echo $PATH' in a terminal
[02:08] <thoreauputic> !info synergy
[02:08] <ubotu> synergy: Share mouse, keyboard and clipboard over the network. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.1-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 582 kB, installed size 1440 kB
[02:08] <fredl> lamego: so if I find that installing the new driver according to the instructions on the WIKI fixes my problem, should I report this as a bug so it may be included in Ubuntu?
[02:08] <[UNLY] mrp> how can i change the refresh rate?
[02:08] <CBMz> Umm.. i need help with tvtime.
[02:08] <jrib> troughton: those are all the directories it checks
[02:08] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: interesting, I'll have to take a look at it
[02:08] <lamego> fredl, well, it doesnt hurt filling the bug, if depends on a driver upgrade it may be get included on edgy
[02:08] <sioux> lamego winetools is configuring my system all in gui I am surprised :-)
[02:08] <troughton> thanks jrib
[02:08] <Apeiron> hey all :) i have a little problem with my swap, im running ubuntu on my thinkpad T23, which has 256mb of ram. the ram is only half-full, but the swap is used very frequently, which makes ubuntu running slowly, because it always have to wait for the hdd.. can i manipulate this behaviour in some way?
[02:09] <lamego> sioux, ;)
[02:09] <fredl> lamego: alright, I'll see if the driver upgrade makes my problems go away.
[02:09] <Apeiron> the swap is even used if i just switch the workspace
[02:09] <lamego> Apeiron, 256 is not much to run, gnome, are you running it ?
[02:09] <Apeiron> lamego, yepp
[02:09] <CBMz> Hmm
[02:09] <CBMz> i'm getting some errors
[02:09] <CBMz> http://pastebin.ca/137437
[02:09] <sioux> lamego now I am installing IE6 + media player and so on
[02:10] <ookami> ok! i think i found them.... linux-headers-2.6.15-26 and linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[02:10] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/
[02:10] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: yeah looking at it as we speak
[02:10] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: and it's in universe
[02:10] <lamego> Apeiron, do not expect to run Ubuntu smoothly on that system, you should use Xubuntu instead...
[02:10] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: so the hardware is physically connected to just one machine but is shared via the network correct?
[02:11] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: correct
[02:11] <sioux> lamego you should add this deb to ubuntu repos
[02:11] <Apeiron> lamego, i tried xubuntu, but i dont really like it, sry.. it even cant mount a cd/dvd automatically
[02:11] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: you can use it with 3 or 4 screens connected to other machines too
[02:11] <lamego> Apeiron, you can install the gnome volume mounter on Xubuntu, to make auto mount work...
[02:11] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: ie Up-Down-Left-Right
[02:11] <Apeiron> lamego, hm...
[02:11] <lamego> Apeiron, gnome is really memory demanding for such a low mem system :(
[02:12] <[UNLY] mrp>  How can i change the refresh rate for the monitor? Thanks
[02:12] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: very cool concept, I have a KVM switch at my office with 4 machines connected, which is nice if you are using the same monitor for all the machines but this is a great concept if each machine has it's own monitor
[02:12] <lamego> [UNLY] mrp, you will need to adjust your xorg.conf , /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:12] <Apeiron> lamego, well, before i was running kde on that system (not very smoothly though) and i thought gnome would be more moderate in using system resources
[02:12] <lamego> Apeiron, I just use gnome, but from the other peoples input gnome is the heaviest one...
[02:12] <CBMz> Could anyone help me with tvtime?
[02:13] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: that's exactly how it works - one monitor per machine, controlled from one keyboard/mouse
[02:13] <[UNLY] mrp> ok that easy? thanks
[02:13] <lamego> CBMz, that error means you need a special driver to use the application
[02:13] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: its a server/client thing
[02:13] <lamego> CBMz, have you tried some other tv tuner from the repositories ?
[02:13] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: I like... I will have to see if I can use it
[02:13] <CBMz> lamego, What other tuner?
[02:13] <RamiKassab> I have two laptops, and two pcs so I'm sure I could use it in some way
[02:13] <lamego> CBMz, what are you trying to achieve ?
[02:13] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: you just use a config file, which is quite easy to write
[02:14] <CBMz> lamego, using my Winfast TV 2000XP
[02:14] <Apeiron> lamego, ok, im gonna install xubuntu.. oh, another little question, i need to run klipper+dcopserver, and they need to run kded and so on, is that a significant waste of resources, what do you think?
[02:14] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: and have one box as server, the others as clients
[02:14] <lamego> CBMz, thats a tv turnet, correct ?
[02:14] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: well shit, there's so many call apps out there that it's hard to pick your battles these days!
[02:14] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: :)
[02:14] <CBMz> lamego, yeah. that's a PCI card
[02:14] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: call = cool
[02:14] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: I discovered synergy last year and fell in love ;p
[02:14] <lamego> Apeiron, well, you can alwatys try them, and remove them if you feel a significant impact
[02:15] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: love at first install eh :)
[02:15] <thoreauputic> more or less , yeah :)
[02:15] <VincentMX> hi
[02:15] <lamego> CBMz, look for a tv turner program on synpatic
[02:15] <CBMz> lamego: i'll go try installing KDETV now
[02:15] <lamego> there are several
[02:15] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: this still doesn't do extended desktop though for two monitors connected to the same machine infortunately :(
[02:15] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: one thing to be aware of: the versions on each box need to be the same
[02:15] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: good to know
[02:16] <Apeiron> lamego, hm... but shouldnt take up that much mem, do they? i really need them, for my little shellscripts (automatically taking+uploading screenshots, to take the URL automatically into the clipboard etc)
[02:16] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: I found that out when I dist-upgraded one box but not the others :)
[02:16] <syntaxx> if i installed lilo how can i return to grub?
[02:16] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: heh, hard way to find out lol
[02:16] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab:  you probably want to look at xinerama I think
[02:17] <CBMz> kdetv just made my screen black and made me restart X (ctrl alt backspace)
[02:17] <lamego> Apeiron, not sure...
[02:17] <Apeiron> lamego, well, much thx so far, im gonna try xubuntu :)
[02:17] <lamego> Apeiron, you have a script which depends on klipper :P ?
[02:18] <epitaf> how would i bind the "show desktop" button to a key?
[02:18] <Apeiron> lamego, yupp
[02:18] <lamego> thats odd :)
[02:18] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: ok checking it out, I'm surprised this functionality isn't built into ubuntu
[02:18] <Apeiron> lamego, i tried to use xclip, but its buggy and dont work
[02:18] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: xinerama isn't a package - its an X thing and i think you'll find it is built in
[02:19] <lamego> thoreauputic, what were you recommending ? Something to share kbds/screens ?
[02:19] <CBMz> lamego: what other tv programs are there but kdetv and tvtime?
[02:19] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: I don't know how xinerama is configured though - google it I guess
[02:19] <thoreauputic> lamego: synergy
[02:19] <ikaruga> how do I change the default document root in apache2?
[02:19] <syntaxx> if i installed lilo how can i return to grub?
[02:19] <lamego> mytthv ?
[02:19] <thoreauputic> lamego:  apt-cache show synergy
[02:19] <CBMz> lamego: synaptic only shows KDETv when i type in "tv tuner"
[02:20] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: so it has some major downfalls for laptops I guess, check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinerama#Known_problems
[02:20] <lamego> uh,, looks nice, does it works ? have you tested it with windows boxes ?
[02:20] <syntaxx> i remove alsa-base and i still have sound after reboot how can i fix that? im trying to fix my tvtime
[02:21] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: hmm - I wouldn't know: I know it exists but I have never played with xinerama
[02:21] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: I may just stick to my one screen :)
[02:21] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: thank god for virtual desktops :)
[02:21] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: heh
[02:22] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: ok well I'm gonna get back to work, thanks for your time bro
[02:22] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: some crazy people jave 16 virtual desktops :)
[02:22] <thoreauputic> *have
[02:22] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: see you :)
[02:22] <epitaf> anyone have an idea on how to bind a key to "show desktop"?
[02:22] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: wow that's overboard, I have 4 and that's more than enough
[02:22] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: depends how you like to work I guess
[02:22] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: true true
[02:23] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: you can hide your pr0n on desktop 16 ;-)
[02:23] <thoreauputic> j/k
[02:23] <Breg> What could cause the following error "Failed to start the Desktop: Unable to register Command Window" when trying to start matlab linux version?
[02:23] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: haha amen
[02:23] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: did you get my pm?
[02:23] <fredl> Hmm, the ATI 8.27.10 driver has exactly the same problem as the supplied ATI driver on my X700 PRO
[02:23] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: tried opening a dialog window with ya
[02:24] <fredl> don't know what else to do :(
[02:24] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: ah yes - but the answer is no
[02:24] <Kyja> epitaf:  you may be thiunking of system>preferences>keyboard mapping
[02:24] <Dimensions> hi i am running a program to get hdd hash id but it says /dev/hda no such  command and when i check /dev there is no hda in there
[02:24] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: I'm on jabber but not connected atm
[02:24] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: ok, guess I'll catch ya on here then, later man!
[02:24] <thoreauputic> leter :)
[02:24] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: ah, don't have jabber myself... just aim and msn
[02:24] <fredl> does anybody here by any chance have an ATI X700 Pro card?
[02:24] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: later
[02:24] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: gaim does jabber
[02:25] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: yeah but I don't have an account
[02:25] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: and don't really have the urge to create one right now... perhaps some other time
[02:25] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: easy to set up - but see you later :)
[02:25] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: l8
[02:25] <VincentMX> does anybody know why sounds doesnt work on my laptop? sound applications dont show errors or anything, they just dont make any sound at all.
[02:25] <RamiKassab> exit
[02:25] <RamiKassab> oops
[02:26] <thoreauputic> VincentMX: have you checked for muted channels ?
[02:26] <VincentMX> thoreauputic: yes
[02:26] <CBMz> Well, i installed mythtv
[02:26] <thoreauputic> VincentMX: open alsamixer in a terminal and look for M
[02:26] <VincentMX> ok
[02:26] <CBMz> and it asks me to login to the mythtv user
[02:26] <thoreauputic> VincentMX: often alsamixer shows more than the gui
[02:26] <CBMz> but i don't know it's password
[02:26] <Ropechoborra> lamego i installed sshd.. but when i try to run it, it says:
[02:26] <Ropechoborra> rope@RopHierr:/$ /usr/sbin/sshd
[02:26] <Ropechoborra> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
[02:26] <Ropechoborra> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
[02:27] <lamego> Ropechoborra, uh !?
[02:27] <thoreauputic> Ropechoborra: that isn't how you run ssh - and it should run by default on installation
[02:27] <lamego> Ropechoborra, do you know anything about services on linux ?
[02:27] <lamego> installing the package also starts the service
[02:27] <Elios> ok
[02:27] <thoreauputic> lamego: right
[02:27] <Elios> how do i get ubuntu to see a NTFS drive
[02:27] <Ropechoborra> And... what is that... then?
[02:28] <VincentMX> IEC958 is set to MM, and doesnt have a bar where i can set it higher
[02:28] <lamego> Elios, add an entry for it on /etc/fstab, so that it gets automounted on startup
[02:28] <Ropechoborra> Elios mount it
[02:28] <lamego> Elios, do you know your partitions names ?
[02:28] <thoreauputic> Ropechoborra: see if it is running -  pgrep sshd
[02:28] <Elios> yea
[02:28] <thoreauputic> Ropechoborra: it should be running already
[02:28] <Ropechoborra> thoreauputic  339
[02:28] <Elios> well its names it had in the windows box it was in
[02:28] <Ropechoborra> that says
[02:28] <VincentMX> thoreauputic: IEC958 is set to MM, and doesnt have a bar where i can set it higher
[02:29] <thoreauputic> Ropechoborra: then it is running
[02:29] <Ropechoborra> i should restart it then... (after modifying config file)
[02:29] <Elios> how do i know what hardware device it is?
[02:29] <thoreauputic> VincentMX: that should be only for digital stuff I think, but I'm no expert - try hitting m on it and see if it makes a diff
[02:30] <thoreauputic> Ropechoborra:  sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[02:30] <VincentMX> ok
[02:31] <Elios> ok im not sure were to start here
[02:31] <Elios> the drive is in 2 partions
[02:31] <Elios> soo im not sure what its hd* is going to be
[02:32] <thoreauputic> Elios:  sudo fdisk -l   to see your partitions
[02:32] <VincentMX> thoreauputic: it's set to 00 now like the others, but still no bar above it
[02:32] <Elios> ah thanks
[02:33] <Breg> What could cause the following error "Failed to start the Desktop: Unable to register Command Window" when trying to start matlab linux version?
[02:33] <thoreauputic> VincentMX: no other channels showing MM ? try hitting tab in alsamixer or use the arrow keys to scroll right
[02:33] <VincentMX> thoreauputic: nope
[02:33] <CBMz> Umm
[02:34] <Ropechoborra> thoreauputic i could restart it, but when i try to connect it i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20969
[02:34] <CBMz> Mythtv is doing me some troubles. i don't think my card is supported there.
[02:34] <Elios> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20970
[02:34] <Elios> ok heres what it says
[02:34] <Elios> line 7 im not sure what thats about
[02:35] <marcel__> hello
[02:35] <thoreauputic> Ropechoborra: 10 ssh access as root is a truly bad idea 2) Is it even enabled in your config?
[02:35] <marcel__> sorry i need help with amd64
[02:35] <Ropechoborra> No... root is disabled
[02:35] <CBMz> How do i check my dmesg log?
[02:35] <marcel__> i am unable to mount a 2. hdd
[02:35] <Ropechoborra> but i tryed to run it as the install user (wich is 'rope') but wont accept my password
[02:36] <thoreauputic> Ropechoborra: I suggest only using ssh as user then using sudo or su or sudo -i depending on your preference once logged in
[02:36] <protocol1> when I try to do a "sudo apt-get upgrade" it does upgrade 2 packages?
[02:36] <Ropechoborra> thoreauputic what do you mean as user? im trying with 'rope' wich is my default user
[02:36] <protocol1> is there a way I can fix this?
[02:36] <thoreauputic> Ropechoborra: of course the user "rope" exists onm the server, right?
[02:37] <lamego> protocol1, do you get an error message ?
[02:37] <thoreauputic> s/onm/on
[02:37] <protocol1> nope
[02:37] <Ropechoborra> Didnt add it =/ supoused it would take them from the system users
[02:37] <protocol1> just says 2 not upgraded
[02:37] <protocol1> in the terminal
[02:37] <thoreauputic> Ropechoborra: well, yes - if you have a user "rope" on the server, ssh should accept rope's password on the server
[02:38] <Ropechoborra> on the server?? on the system u mean? yes.. its the user i created in ubuntu install
[02:38] <epitaf> Kyja : thanks! unfortunately i couldnt use windows button+d
[02:38] <CBMz> Umm.. could i get a tutorial or a guide on using my Leadtek Winfast 2000XP?
[02:38] <lhds> hey i was wondering if i installed blackbox on ubuntu will compiz work on top of blackbox like it does with kde and gnome?
[02:39] <thoreauputic> Ropechoborra: are you clear on sever/client relationaships? Sounds like you are confused
[02:39] <Elios> ok soo it would be like this
[02:39] <Ropechoborra> thoreauputic no... im just starting
[02:39] <Breg> how can i update the bios of a dell 6400 (only got the .exe)?
[02:39] <thoreauputic> Ropechoborra: are you ssh ing to the same box you have the server on?
[02:39] <thoreauputic> ah, right localhost, sorry
[02:39] <SeriousGoose> Fun Fact #52 - An upside-down cat is an unhappy cat
[02:39] <robtaylor> can anyone tell me best-practice for building a patched dapper kernel?
[02:40] <Elios> mount -w -t ntfs hdb1 /home/shares/allusers
[02:40] <waspius> i am trying to have a shortcut to change keyboard languages back and forth..the default is alt+cntrl+k but it only changes once..plus i would like to make it shift+alt but i cannot
[02:40] <Ropechoborra> thoreauputic yes... its all in my pc.. im trying to configure it for accesing from internet
[02:40] <thoreauputic> Ropechoborra: hmm - Ok I see now, sorry I misread your pastebin
[02:40] <gilan> is recovery mode security vulnerability ??
[02:41] <Ropechoborra> i dont understand why it dont take my password
[02:41] <thoreauputic> Ropechoborra: yes, it should accept the password - what have you changed in the config?
[02:41] <CBMz> could i get a tutorial or a guide on using my Leadtek Winfast 2000XP
[02:41] <CBMz> '
[02:41] <CBMz> ?
[02:41] <Ropechoborra> thoreauputic i disabled the root login.. and the maxusers and things like that
[02:41] <Elios> im just not sure how to do this the disk has stuff on it and id like to not nuke it
[02:42] <thoreauputic> Ropechoborra: I think somehow you must have enabled a bogus config change - your local user and pass should definitely work
[02:42] <fredl> Hmm, it would seem my ATI problem is related to a kernel AGP bug.
[02:42] <nightattack> hello, where can I get the latest glib? I tried looking in apt-cache search glib, but only found a 2.0 there
[02:42] <thoreauputic> Ropechoborra: I would check through your config again carefully
[02:42] <Ropechoborra> Ok
[02:42] <fredl> I now have 865 FPS on my card with fgl_glxgears
[02:43] <AquaFox> I am having problems installing ATi drivers in Ubuntu drake, anybody help me?
[02:43] <XVampireX> Someone help nightattack :P
[02:43] <XVampireX> Cause it's not fair
[02:43] <XVampireX> So many problems
[02:43] <XVampireX> :P
[02:43] <nightattack> -.-
[02:43] <AquaFox> Damn no one helps now?
[02:43] <AquaFox> I thought this was help channel.
[02:43] <thoreauputic> !ati
[02:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:43] <AquaFox> I checked.
[02:43] <thoreauputic> ^^^
[02:43] <AquaFox> I tryed.
[02:44] <AquaFox> I installed fglrx.
[02:44] <marcel__> i get allways the error message: mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /mnt busy
[02:44] <AquaFox> NOT WORKING.
[02:44] <marcel__> how can i solve this
[02:44] <marcel__> ?
[02:44] <ailean> hey, my synaptic won't open when I select it from the menu; should I report that as a bug?
[02:44] <XVampireX> [15:42]  <nightattack> hello, where can I get the latest glib? I tried looking in apt-cache search glib, but only found a 2.0 there
[02:44] <jrib> ailean: type 'gksudo synaptic' in a terminal.  What does it say?
[02:44] <void^> !info libglib2.0-0
[02:44] <ubotu> Package libglib20-0 does not exist in dapper
[02:44] <Black> Hi 2 everyone!
[02:44] <void^> !info "libglib2.0-0"
[02:44] <ubotu> Package libglib20-0 does not exist in dapper
[02:44] <void^> gah.
[02:45] <ailean> jrib, nothing - but synaptic doesn't open
[02:45] <void^> just run 'apt-cache policy libglib2.0-0"
[02:45] <jrib> ailean: does it drop you back to another prompt?
[02:45] <ailean> jrib, yes
[02:45] <fredl> Aquafox - what type ATI card do you have?
[02:45] <Black>  !
[02:45] <AquaFox> I have Radeon 9200 SE.
[02:45] <abhinay> hello there
[02:45] <nightattack> void^ Installed: 2.10.3-0ubuntu1
[02:45] <jrib> ailean: does it prompt you for a password?
[02:45] <AquaFox> fredl, I have Radeon 9200 SE.
[02:45] <ailean> jrib, this has happened before and it's find if I log out and back in again
[02:46] <ailean> jrib, yes, it does
[02:46] <nightattack> void^ I need at least 2.4 any ideas where to get that one?
[02:46] <ailean> jrib, but gksudo anything would do that
[02:46] <fredl> Aquafox: so does the driver initially detect your card in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[02:46] <thoreauputic> Black: don't spam
[02:46] <jrib> ailean: ps -ef | grep synaptic    <-- anything turn up?
[02:46] <AquaFox> Yes.
[02:46] <AquaFox> I tried "fglrx" and I don't see hardware support.
[02:46] <fredl> AquaFox - does X come up initially but does it just cause problems?
[02:46] <AquaFox> How to notice hardware support?
[02:47] <void^> nightattack: 2.10 > 2.4. latest upstream glib is 2.12.
[02:47] <fredl> AquaFox - try typing fglrxinfo
[02:47] <CBMz> could anyone give me a guide for using my Winfast 2000XP?
[02:47] <ailean> jrib:  "username"   7996  7947  0 13:46 pts/0    00:00:00 grep synaptic
[02:47] <nightattack> void^ well I tried installing D4x but it wants glib=>> 2.4.0 or something like that lol
[02:47] <thoreauputic> CBMz: umm - are you in the right channel?
[02:47] <AquaFox> Okay
[02:47] <AquaFox> I will type.
[02:47] <fredl> AquaFox - if you see something along the lines of Mesa, you do not have hardware support.
[02:47] <Lane> Anyone here use a LInux server  as a production server for a commercial bussiness?
[02:47] <CBMz> thoreauputic: I think i am. since this is ubuntu support.
[02:47] <AquaFox> YES!
[02:48] <AquaFox> I HAVE MESA :(!
[02:48] <void^> nightattack: try installing libglib2.0-dev
[02:48] <CBMz> thoreauputic: there's a special channel for tv now?
[02:48] <Ropechoborra> thoreauputic I could! =) I had to add 'AllowUsers rope' to the config file
[02:48] <fredl> AquaFox - have you installed the linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` package?
[02:48] <thoreauputic> CBMz: sorry I just saw "Winfast" and assumed it was a windows thing
[02:48] <nightattack> void^ E: Broken packages :<
[02:48] <AquaFox> Yes I do.
[02:49] <ailean> jrib, so what do you think? should i report that?
[02:49] <jrib> ailean: does sudo synaptic make a difference?  What does just 'synaptic' do?
[02:49] <ailean> jrib, 2 secs
[02:49] <void^> nightattack: works for me. check for typos.
[02:49] <CBMz> once i edited my modules.conf do i need to fully restart the system? or just restart X?
[02:49] <ailean> jrib: synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - for "synaptic" on its own
[02:49] <nightattack> void^ nightattack@Igor-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev
[02:50] <Linuturk_code> Has anyone been testing Edgy Eft on a Tablet PC ? I'd like to know what support there is for tablet pens, switching the orientation of the screen, and handwriting recognition.
[02:50] <ailean> and the same for sudo, jrib
[02:50] <nightattack> void^ libglib2.0-dev: Depends: libglib2.0-0 (= 2.10.2-1ubuntu3) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[02:50] <AquaFox> fredl, are you ignoring my PM?!
[02:50] <Elios> ok some one tell me if this look right
[02:50] <ailean> but jrib, it has been working and it will work if i log out and back in
[02:50] <zenit> What would be required to let regular users mount usb-drives, and prefereably also get a shortcut on the desktop?
[02:50] <Elios> /dev/hdb1 /home/shares/allusers ntfs-3g silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[02:50] <ailean> zenit, plug it in and it should be there
[02:50] <jrib> ailean: hrmm someone was here earlier with that same problem... maybe there was a messed up update.  does /usr/lib/libvte.so.4 exist?
[02:51] <AquaFox> fredl
[02:51] <thoreauputic> zenit: Ubuntu mounts USB automatically and puts an icon on the desktop...
[02:51] <zenit> ailean: and this applies to any user using the computer, no need to set permissions or changing group?
[02:51] <[UNLY] mrp> can someone help me to open xorg.conf? having problems
[02:51] <zenit> hmm.. didn't happen on this system. I guess I have to look into it.
[02:51] <HeathenDan> what's the diff between sudo and gksudo?
[02:51] <thoreauputic> zenit: it just works , or should anyway
[02:51] <zenit> thoreauputic: ok
[02:51] <void^> nightattack: perhaps you are using cdrom repos? make sure you have a sane sources.list and run apt-get update
[02:51] <thoreauputic> HeathenDan: gksudo is for gui apps, basically
[02:52] <ailean> jrib, no it doesn't. come to think of it, i have updated my computer today but I can't remember if synaptic was included in the update
[02:52] <HeathenDan> i see
[02:52] <thoreauputic> HeathenDan: sudo is for command line
[02:52] <ailean> zenit, yes, it should
[02:52] <Elios> that entry look ok ?
[02:52] <protocol1> when I try to do a "sudo apt-get upgrade" it does upgrade 2 packages?
[02:52] <protocol1> doesnt*
[02:52] <HeathenDan> how about su and sudo?
[02:52] <protocol1> no errors
[02:52] <XVampireX> protocol1: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:52] <jrib> ailean: 'sudo apt-get install libvte4' if it says it is already installed, then do: 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install libvte4'
[02:53] <thoreauputic> protocol1:  try sudo apt-get -f install or dist-upgrade - if that doesn't do it check your sources.list
[02:53] <ailean> jrib, "sudo apt-get install libvte4"
[02:53] <Elios> ok
[02:53] <nightattack> void^ cdrom repos? so where do I get 'not cdrom repos' lol
[02:53] <ailean> jrib, oops :)
[02:53] <Elios> it didnt work
[02:53] <ailean> jrib: "libvte4 ya est en su versin ms reciente."
[02:53] <jrib> ailean: k, do the second command
[02:53] <protocol1> got it
[02:53] <SeriousGoose> Can someone paypal me a dollar to use to buy ubuntu from my friend
[02:53] <ailean> oh, ok jrib got it
[02:54] <protocol1> XVampireX, thx
[02:54] <XVampireX> protocol1: no problems :)
[02:54] <thoreauputic> SeriousGoose: heh - he should give you a copy :)
[02:54] <Elios> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20971 when i try to mount the ntfs drive i get that
[02:54] <Seveas> thoreauputic, that was a troll -- banned and ban avoiding
[02:54] <XVampireX> I don't get it myself why there's upgrade and dist-upgrade
[02:54] <fredl> AquaFox - I am having problems with my ATI driver myself.
[02:54] <thoreauputic> Seveas: yes I've seen him before - thanks
[02:54] <jrib> XVampireX: man apt-get explains
[02:54] <Ropechoborra> thoreauputic if i want to access from a windows system i can do it from telnet client?
[02:55] <ailean> jrib, i reinstalled and the file doesn't seem to have turned up
[02:55] <redblades> Hey all! is there a 64 bit versrion of ubuntu? If so, how well does it work??
[02:55] <Elios> Ropechoborra
[02:55] <Elios> im using putty
[02:55] <Ropechoborra> What?
[02:55] <jrib> ailean: can you run the command again?  The other guy had to run it twice for some reason...
[02:55] <ailean> k
[02:55] <thoreauputic> Ropechoborra: you'd have to have atelnet server running on the ubuntu box - I don't think that's a good idea
[02:55] <jrib> which is really strange
[02:55] <Elios> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[02:55] <Elios> this
[02:55] <ailean> jrib, nothing
[02:55] <Elios> and to edit files
[02:55] <ailean> jrib, well, the same error
[02:56] <thoreauputic> Ropechoborra: as Elios says, putty ( a windows ssh client)
[02:56] <ailean> jrib, i.e. the file just isn't there
[02:56] <Ropechoborra> thoreauputic so... the only way using the sshd is from other linux system with an ssh client?
[02:56] <XVampireX> jrib ^_^ Thanks
[02:56] <Ropechoborra> ohh!
[02:56] <Ropechoborra> i got it
[02:56] <Ropechoborra> thanks
[02:56] <quiet> redblades, there is... it would probably help to check out ubuntu.com
[02:56] <thoreauputic> RobNyc_C: see above, and no
[02:56] <fredl> wow, 'buggy' doesn't begin to describe the ATI driver supplied with Ubuntu.
[02:56] <redblades> quiet: okay, thanks.
[02:56] <thoreauputic> Ropechoborra: oops :)
[02:56] <Elios> and im using WinSCP to edit files on the windows side
[02:56] <thoreauputic> RobNyc_C: sorry tab complet blooper
[02:56] <Elios> i suck at using vi
[02:56] <Elios> lol
[02:56] <CBMz> Hello
[02:57] <ailean> jrib, i reckon this should be reported :)
[02:57] <CBMz> How can i get TVTime to work? it says i need some kind of special drivers
[02:57] <CBMz> Is it recommended to get them?
[02:57] <fredl> it would seem there's a kernel AGP problem. One suggestion I read was to use the internal AGP driver from the ATI driver
[02:57] <fredl> that works better longer....
[02:57] <kads> @CBMZ is TYtime like onTV
[02:58] <fredl> but then the end result is much more failsafe, hard system lock :P
[02:58] <CBMz> @kads what are you taking about?
[02:58] <Kyja> epitaf: ctrl+alt+d
[02:58] <jrib> ailean: yes, you probably should file a bug if there isn't one already.  To fix your problem though can you check if there is a libvte4 deb in /var/cache/apt and install it with dpkg?
[02:58] <Elios> ok now any one know why im getting this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20971 when i try and mount the NTFS drive
[02:59] <ailean> jrib, not so good with this yet . . .
[02:59] <kads> @CBMZ it tells you whats on tv in your area
[02:59] <ailean> jrib, i'll need to learn how to use dpkg first
[02:59] <epitaf> Kyja : thats not the same as windowsbutton-d
[02:59] <Kyja> no?
[02:59] <kads> like this
[02:59] <CBMz> @kads TVtime is supposed to show me tv using my tv tuner card
[02:59] <jrib> ailean: ls /var/cache/apt/*libvte*.deb    <--what does that say?
[02:59] <Kyja> well it hides all window and shows the desktop and back again.
[03:00] <Kyja> you want a rebind epitaf ?
[03:00] <ailean> jrib: No existe el fichero  directorio - doesn't exist
[03:00] <jrib> ailean: bah
[03:00] <Elios> so what am i doing wrong with the fstab?
[03:01] <Elios> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20971
[03:01] <ailean> jrib, i can wait until the next update - if there's a prob like this, it'll be updated fairly quickly anyway
[03:01] <kads> @CBMZ use MYTHTV
[03:01] <CBMz> @kads it doesn't seem to support my card
[03:01] <ailean> jrib, i just wanted to install something, but i don't need to use synaptic
[03:01] <jrib> ailean: alright, does /usr/lib/libvte.so.9 exist?
[03:01] <ailean> jrib, yes
[03:01] <epitaf> Kyja : I'd like to bind "show desktop" to windowsbutton-d. i can bind it to ctrl-alt-d or ctrl-d, but i cant seem to bind it to what it want, namely windowsbutton-d
[03:01] <kads> @CBMZ wich one is that
[03:01] <CBMz> @kads a good configuration guide might help me
[03:01] <Kyja> on ubuntuguide.org I think there is a key bind for ctrl+alt+delete to open system monitor... you could easy use that as example to rebind
[03:01] <jrib> ailean: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libvte.so.9 /usr/lib/libvte.so.4, that's what the file is anyway
[03:01] <CBMz> @kads Leadtek Winfast 2000XP
[03:02] <kads> @CBMZ oooh
[03:02] <Kyja> oh Ic
[03:02] <kads> @CBMZ so many problems with that card
[03:02] <kads> @CBMZ lets see if I can help you
[03:02] <shaantanu> !pastebin
[03:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:02] <kads> @CBMZ did u even find a driver for it?
[03:02] <thoreauputic> Elios: not sure - but you probably need to do  sudo modprobe fuse   and add fuse to /etc/modules
[03:02] <Elios> ok
[03:02] <CBMz> @kads i think it's already supported
[03:03] <Kyja> dame for windows key is "super_l" ??
[03:03] <kads> @CBMZ is it?
[03:03] <ailean> working, jrib, thanks
[03:03] <CBMz> @kads i really don't know.
[03:03] <Elios> worked
[03:03] <kads> @CBMZ I gave up when it didn't work for my friend
[03:03] <Elios> :D
[03:03] <kads> @CBMZ ok what is the output of tvtime
[03:03] <Kyja> so in a binding from that script in that wiki you might be able to do "Super_L+d"
[03:03] <thoreauputic> Elios: also are you a member of the fuse group?  sudo adduser elios fuse   (or whatever your username is)
[03:04] <CBMz> @kads this: http://pastebin.ca/137518
[03:04] <Elios> thoreauputic
[03:04] <CBMz> @kads i have an ATi Radeon 9600XT
[03:04] <jrib> ailean: hmmm does /usr/lib/libvte.so.9 exist on your system?
[03:05] <Elios> modprobe worked
[03:05] <Elios> it monted
[03:05] <Elios> mounted
[03:05] <thoreauputic> Elios: OK
[03:05] <Elios> thanks
[03:05] <thoreauputic> cool
[03:05] <thoreauputic> :)
[03:05] <Elios> now
[03:05] <Elios> there are 2 partions on that drive
[03:05] <kads> @CBMZ are you dapper or brezzy
[03:05] <Elios> if i mount the other one to the same place
[03:05] <thoreauputic> Elios: make sure you add fuse to /etc/modules so it will load onm boot
[03:05] <CBMz> @kads dapper
[03:05] <Elios> what happens if there are file with the same name?
[03:05] <Elios> ok
[03:06] <ailean> jrib, yes
[03:06] <thoreauputic> Elios: you usually make separate mountpoints for each filesystem
[03:06] <jrib> ailean: I just checked my system, and it actually has libvte.so.4.5.1 that libvte.so.4 points to.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238668&highlight=libvte4 for your reference
[03:06] <UU> human
[03:06] <Elios> heh
[03:06] <Elios> ok
[03:06] <kads> @CBMz how did you install the ati drivers synaptic or compile
[03:06] <thoreauputic> Elios: otherwise it gets confusing fast :)
[03:06] <jrib> ailean: and you are using dapper?
[03:06] <ailean> jrib, yep
[03:06] <shaantanu> Hi everyone , I m having a problem trying to configure vmware on my system ... can someone help ??
[03:06] <Elios> well this was becouse the drive was to big for the old windows box
[03:07] <CBMz> @kads i used fglrx or whatever it's called (downloaded the package off synaptic)
[03:07] <xopher_> shaantanu, just ask your question :)
[03:07] <Elios> and then i just moved it to my XP box and convtered it to NTFS
[03:07] <jrib> ailean: can you do 'dpkg -S /usr/lib/libvte.so.9' ?
[03:07] <Elios> lol
[03:07] <shaantanu> goto the paste bin entry http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20973
[03:07] <kads> @CBMz ok there is you problem
[03:07] <Elios> soo its 2 partions on the same drive
[03:07] <fridge> what's the current kernel in dapper?
[03:07] <Elios> but id like it to look like one drive
[03:07] <puglisi> goodday everyone, I've just experienced a total irreversible freeze of my dapper system,  kernel 2.6.15-26-686
[03:07] <kads> @CBMz the repo drivers don't work complete
[03:07] <jrib> ailean: I have to go, but I'd appreciate it if you could just tell me what that command says.  Thanks, bye
[03:07] <y3it221_klce> any commands to install Ubuntu
[03:07] <CBMz> @kads and how do i fix it?
[03:07] <xopher_> shaantanu, you probably dont have linux-headers installed
[03:07] <ailean> jrib, libvte4: /usr/lib/libvte.so.9
[03:08] <ailean> thanks jrib :)
[03:08] <shaantanu> x: how to fix it ??opher
[03:08] <kads> @CBMz anyway here is what you got to do
[03:08] <xopher_> shaantanu, which vmware needs to compile the vmware module
[03:08] <thoreauputic> Elios: well, as far as Linux is concerned it's two filesystems/ partitions
[03:08] <Ropechoborra> thoreauputic one more question, does sshd starts on ubuntu start?
[03:08] <thoreauputic> Ropechoborra: yes
[03:08] <shaantanu> xopher: how to fix it
[03:08] <Ropechoborra> thanks
[03:08] <kads> @CBMz are u X86 or amd
[03:08] <xopher_> shaantanu sudo apt-get install linux-headers-uname -r
[03:08] <Elios> thoreauputic soo is there any way to make them act like one?
[03:09] <shaantanu> xopher: what are the ?
[03:09] <CBMz> @kads i have an amd64 processor, but i use x86
[03:09] <thoreauputic> Elios: umm, why? What's wrong with having two ?
[03:09] <kads> @CBMz ok
[03:09] <xopher_> shaantanu actually its ` not 
[03:09] <Elios> well 1 network drive would be easyer then 2
[03:09] <Elios> >.>
[03:09] <thoreauputic> Elios: if they are both mounted, they will be accessible
[03:10] <xopher_> shaantanu header files from the kernel source which are needed to compile the module for vmware, so vmware will work
[03:10] <shaantanu> apt-get install linux-headers-?uname -r?:I m not getting u
[03:10] <Elios> ok ill just make anothered all user dir
[03:10] <Elios> -d
[03:10] <xopher_> shaantanu you have used agt-get before right?
[03:10] <shaantanu> ya
[03:10] <shaantanu> man
[03:10] <thoreauputic> Elios: if this is a samba/ windows networking question - I know nothing about samba and use nfs here
[03:10] <waspius> anyone know how i can make warcraft and counter strike work??
[03:10] <[b] urk> sba
[03:10] <Elios> ok
[03:10] <shaantanu> gimme the exact command
[03:10] <[b] urk> waspius, i got cs working
[03:10] <kads> @CBMz download the ati driver from https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27
[03:11] <xopher_> shaantanu yes, I gave you the exact command, just replace the  with `
[03:11] <[b] urk> shaantanu, first run uname -r
[03:11] <Elios> ill stumble though it
[03:11] <shaantanu> xopher_:k
[03:11] <CBMz> @kads last time i tried installing that ATi driver it didn't work.
[03:11] <waspius> [b] urk: do u have steam also?
[03:11] <[b] urk> yes
[03:11] <thoreauputic> Elios: you can make a symlink to the other directory if that helps
[03:11] <kads> @CBMz I have a fix for it now
[03:11] <shaantanu> xopher_:done
[03:12] <kads> @CBMz lucky you huh
[03:12] <puglisi> ehm, hi again... has anyone of you ever experienced a total freeze of the system, using dapper with  kernel 2.6.15-26-686? the system was up since a couple of days and then, suddenly, while I was doing some numerical work on it, it has hung up!
[03:12] <xopher_> shaantanu did it install them?
[03:12] <waspius> [b] urk: how did u do it?
[03:12] <CBMz> @kads can we continue this in private messages?
[03:12] <Elios> thoreauputic
[03:12] <kads> sure
[03:12] <shaantanu> uname - r gave me my kernel veriosn
[03:12] <Elios> how would i do that
[03:12] <Elios> well let me get it mouted frist
[03:12] <kads> @CBMz kinda hoping to do that too
[03:12] <Elios> lol
[03:13] <xopher_> shaantanu yes, but did you install the headers?
[03:13] <xopher_> shaantanu you can also do 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-<insert your kernel version here>'
[03:13] <shaantanu> I m not sure
[03:13] <msoul> hello, is there something similar/better to gkrellm?
[03:13] <[b] urk> wasabi, how come? are you having problems?
[03:13] <[b] urk> waspius*, how come? are you having problems?
[03:14] <CBMz> @kads you're not answering over pm.
[03:14] <xopher_> shaantanu well if config.pl still fails then you havent for sure ;)
[03:14] <kads> @CBMz I am here
[03:14] <waspius> [b] urk: i installed steam but it would not run
[03:14] <shaantanu> E: Couldn't find package linux-headres-2.6.15-26-386
[03:14] <msoul> and I don't really now how to cfhange the font in fluxbox
[03:14] <msoul> it looks reaslly small
[03:14] <[b] urk> waspius, what happens?
[03:14] <CBMz> @kads try answering me over pm.
[03:14] <shaantanu>  xopher_: E: Couldn't find package linux-headres-2.6.15-26-386
[03:14] <waspius> [b] urk: it just does nothing
[03:14] <thoreauputic> shaantanu: typo
[03:14] <xopher_> shaantanu hmm wait
[03:14] <waspius> [b] urk: it goes to open but nothing
[03:14] <[b] urk> waspius, are you using wine?
[03:14] <kads> @CBMz I did
[03:14] <tjm> msoul: apt-get install switch2
[03:15] <Elios> ok
[03:15] <thoreauputic> shaantanu: linux-headers
[03:15] <CBMz> @kads you must be registered to send pms.
[03:15] <msoul> tjm: and to run it just switch2 in terminal correct?
[03:15] <waspius> [b] urk: yes
[03:15] <kads> @CBMz ohhhh
[03:15] <CBMz> @kads that might be the reason i didn't recieve them
[03:15] <kads> @CBMz forgot
[03:15] <xopher_> shaantanu try w/o the -386, that should work
[03:15] <kads> @CBMz I am not on my compy
[03:15] <shaantanu> ok
[03:15] <[b] urk> tjm, switch wont do anything with the fonts in fluxbox itself
[03:15] <kads> @CBMz srry
[03:16] <[b] urk> msoul, try another *box theme
[03:16] <kads> @CBMz I am getting a fix for you right now
[03:16] <xopher_> shaantanu, and you've type-o'd headers. you wrote E: Couldn't find package linux-headres-2.6.15-26-386
[03:16] <Elios> thoreauputic: how do i had fuse etc/modules?
[03:16] <[b] urk> waspius, how far does it come? any errors in terminal?
[03:16] <fredl> the ATI adventure continues....
[03:16] <tjm> [b] urk: oh, I thought he ment the GTK fonts
[03:16] <shaantanu> ohk
[03:17] <xopher_> so keep the 386 in the cmd
[03:17] <waspius> [b] urk: i did not run it through the terminal so i dont really know
[03:17] <msoul> [b] urk: it comes with a theme?
[03:17] <shaantanu> fine
[03:17] <tjm> msoul: you can always switch flux to antialiased fonts, they're usually pretty big
[03:17] <Elios> just add fuse to it?
[03:17] <thoreauputic> Elios:  use an editor is easiest - for instance   sudo nano /etc/modules  , scroll down type fuse at the bottom, save and exit
[03:17] <msoul> tjm: could you tell me how?
[03:17] <Elios> just did that lol
[03:17] <msoul> ohh
[03:17] <msoul> I know but I kinda like
[03:17] <kads> @CBMz go to your directory you downlaoded the file
[03:17] <msoul> the current theme
[03:17] <Elios> ok
[03:17] <shaantanu> xopher_: itis asking me to download something ... i think it will work fine after that
[03:17] <quiet> msoul, it's in the menu... it's a tick box for 'antialiasing'
[03:17] <thoreauputic> Elios: on a separate line at the bottom
[03:17] <msoul> and wondered if it's possible to change it
[03:17] <Elios> so how do i make the symlink
[03:17] <mrDaniel> my synaptic won't open !!! when I type 'sudo synaptic' in a console, it reports me a error 'synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory'
[03:18] <[b] urk> waspius, do you know how to use the tesminal
[03:18] <tjm> msoul: it's under configuration, in the main menu
[03:18] <kads> @CBMz in your terminal
[03:18] <xopher_> shaantanu, yes, allow it to download the headers and install them
[03:18] <mrDaniel> do anyone know how to solve this problem? i really need help !!!
[03:18] <quiet> mrDaniel, you can use aptitude from CLI
[03:18] <shaantanu> xopher_: ok .. thanx  alot dude
[03:18] <kads> @CBMz are u there?
[03:18] <mrDaniel> without synaptic i am lost
[03:18] <fredl> so, facts. In Breezy I had a working ATI driver that had to be manually added but worked nevertheless. In Dapper, an ATI driver is included but it does not work for me. On the Wiki there's a procedure to make debs for the 8.27 ATI driver but the 8.27 driver is apparently hosed too. Question: Is there a way to make debs and recompile the kernel driver for the Breezy drivers?
[03:18] <quiet> mrDaniel, do a dist-upgrade and see what gets updates.
[03:18] <CBMz> @kads yeah
[03:18] <CBMz> @kads what now?
[03:18] <xopher_> shaantanu dont thank me before you got vmware running ;)
[03:18] <kads> @CBMz go to your directory you downlaoded the file
[03:18] <shaantanu> xopher_: :)
[03:18] <absentage> @CBMz go to your directory you downlaoded the file
[03:19] <absentage> xopher_: :)
[03:19] <waspius> [b] urk: not to well
[03:19] <absentage> [b] urk: not to well
[03:19] <kads> @CBMz chmod +x your driver
[03:19] <absentage> @CBMz chmod +x your driver
[03:19] <xopher_> mrDaniel try installing libvte through apt-get or aptitude
[03:19] <absentage> mrDaniel try installing libvte through apt-get or aptitude
[03:19] <xopher_> DBO check absentage out
[03:19] <absentage> DBO check absentage out
[03:19] <kads> @CBMz then exceute with this   --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper
[03:19] <quiet> wtf is with the double messages?
[03:19] <msoul> quiet I somewhat didn't find antiliasing
[03:19] <absentage> quiet I somewhat didn't find antiliasing
[03:19] <absentage> @CBMz then exceute with this --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper
[03:19] <absentage> wtf is with the double messages?
[03:20] <IRCMonkeyX> hi, do i need to open ports for amule in ubuntu too ?
[03:20] <absentage> hi, do i need to open ports for amule in ubuntu too ?
[03:20] <absentage> xopher he's my friend he'll never check me out
[03:20] <quiet> someone kick absentage
[03:20] <kads> @absentage I got it man
[03:20] <absentage> someone kick absentage
[03:20] <absentage> @absentage I got it man
[03:20] <CBMz> @kads okay
[03:20] <absentage> @kads okay
[03:20] <xopher_> absentage well stop cloning everyones messages then, ok? Really not cool
[03:20] <absentage> absentage well stop cloning everyones messages then, ok? Really not cool
[03:20] <kads> @CBMz done?
[03:20] <absentage> @CBMz done?
[03:20] <bbrazil> !ops
[03:20] <absentage> !ops
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[03:20] <absentage> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[03:20] <absentage> quiet nobody will kick me
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[03:20] <msoul> tjwhere in configuration?
[03:20] <absentage> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[03:20] <absentage> tjwhere in configuration?
[03:20] <Kyja> grr
[03:20] <absentage> grr
[03:20] <Hobbsee> what?
[03:20] <CBMz> @kads soon
[03:20] <absentage> what?
[03:20] <IRCMonkeyX> !ops
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[03:20] <Elios> ok sooo any one know how ro make symlink?
[03:20] <absentage> @kads soon
[03:20] <absentage> !ops
[03:20] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[03:20] <absentage> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[03:20] <[b] urk> waspius, try to cd into the dir where steam is installed
[03:20] <absentage> ok sooo any one know how ro make symlink?
[03:20] <tjm> trippy....
[03:20] <absentage> xopher i cant
[03:20] <absentage> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[03:20] <IRCMonkeyX> !ops
[03:20] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[03:21] <Kyja> someones spy bot is missconfigured ha
[03:21] <CarinArr> errrr
[03:21] <xopher_> thank you
[03:21] <Hobbsee> which others do i want to kick?
[03:21] <quiet> msoul, in a term... write 'fluxbox-generate_menu'
[03:21] <quiet> and restart fluxbox.
[03:21] <msoul> tjm configuration yet I don't find anything regarding fonts
[03:21] <kads> @Hobbsee why did u kick CBMz
[03:21] <Elios> O.o
[03:21] <msoul> oh okie hangon a sec
[03:21] <IRCMonkeyX> hi, do i need to open ports for amule in ubuntu too ?
[03:21] <jbaloul> hi were can i get ubuntu lts 6.06 (not the new 6.06.1)
[03:21] <Hobbsee> kads: which is the bot?
[03:21] <kads> @Hobbsee he didn;t do anything plus I was helping him
[03:22] <liran_> ummm, is libpcap installed by default with ubuntu dapper?
[03:22] <kads> @Hobbsee absentage
[03:22] <mrDaniel> a 'apt-cache search libvte' reports some packages, which I should install??? libvte-cil, libvte2.0-cil, libvte-common, libvte-dev, libvte-doc or libvte4 ???
[03:22] <kads> @Hobbsee not CBMz
[03:22] <kads> @Hobbsee thx
[03:22] <kads> @CBMz r u back
[03:22] <msoul> quiet: nada
[03:23] <[b] urk> msoul, go to ~/.fluxbox/styles and edit the file ldc, there you'll find the entry font
[03:23] <xopher_> mrDaniel no idea actually , try libvte4, it seemed it was missing that
[03:23] <kads> @CBMz r u back
[03:23] <kads> @CBMz cool
[03:23] <CBMz> @kads yeah
[03:23] <quiet> jbaloul, http://torrentspy.com/search.asp?h=&query=ubuntu&submit.x=0&submit.y=0
[03:23] <kads> @CBMz any way what are the extract filenames
[03:23] <CBMz> @kads it's now generating package
[03:23] <msoul> [b] urk: okie sec
[03:23] <jrib> mrDaniel: what does 'apt-cache policy libvte4' report as the Installed version?
[03:24] <CBMz> @kads i'll pastebin it
[03:24] <Hobbsee> xopher: kads: who brought that bot in?
[03:24] <CBMz> @kads http://pastebin.ca/137535
[03:24] <kads> @Hobbsee donno
[03:24] <CBMz> @kads is that output okay?
[03:24] <msoul> [b] urk: @HOMElinux:~/.fluxbox/styles$ ls
[03:24] <kads> @CBMz give me a asec
[03:24] <msoul> EvolutionTech  FluxAqua  Goth-v1.0  Linther  naturered  sid_fluxarnation
[03:24] <kernelpanic> Hi new to Ubuntu on ppc, trying to find instructions on how to upgrade from 5.04 to 6.06, as the cd wont boot, is it possible to upgrade from within my current install?
[03:25] <msoul> nothing about ldc
[03:25] <kads> perfect
[03:25] <mrDaniel> a 'apt-cache policy libvt4' reports me, that it is version  1:0.13.5-0ubuntu2
[03:25] <fredl> does anybody happen to know how I can find ati-driver-installer-8.16.20-x86.run ?
[03:25] <[b] urk> waspius, did you try to cd into the dir where you installed Steam? (usually .wine/drive_c/
[03:25] <waspius> [b] urk: i will re install wine and let u know
[03:25] <kads> @CBMz I will send you a fix put all the files in the same folder and execute fglrx are root
[03:26] <mrDaniel> libvte4 is installed already
[03:26] <xopher_> fredl, tried ati.com?
[03:26] <[b] urk> why? waspius that wont help
[03:26] <azureal> hi; any idea how i'd go about coloring different extensions in the terminal? (for example, make all .avi files appear red)
[03:26] <CBMz> @kads okay
[03:26] <mrDaniel> libvte.so.4 , I don't know this file
[03:26] <xopher_> mrDaniel weird. try apt-cache depends synaptic
[03:26] <waspius> [b] urk: because i uninstalled it
[03:26] <fredl> xopher_: well why, ofcourse :) is there also some 'old drivers' link that I missed?
[03:26] <jrib> mrDaniel: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238668
[03:26] <[b] urk> msoul, hmm, i have that file...
[03:27] <[b] urk> waspius, ok then, install from the repos of the winehq
[03:27] <xopher_> fredl, so those arent the latest ones? Well atleast for windows theres an 'old drivers' section IIRC
[03:27] <fredl> xopher_: nope, latest ones are buggy and I want to install the one that was in Breezy
[03:28] <msoul> [b] urk: and there are nothing in the menu that I can change the fonts?
[03:28] <xopher_> hm , sorry I dont know, I switched to the nvidia camp a few years back so :/
[03:28] <dr_willis> azureal,  thats part of the ls command and its --color feature
[03:28] <xopher_> mrDaniel and ofcourse you should try dpkg --reconfigure synaptic
[03:29] <lhds> hey i was wondering if i installed blackbox on ubuntu will compiz work on top of blackbox like it does with kde and gnome?
[03:29] <CBMz> @waspius steam is fucked in linux. it's because the new update
[03:29] <waspius> CBMz: so what should i do?
[03:29] <CBMz> @waspius wait for a fix
[03:30] <[b] urk> msoul, in the styles dir, go to the dir of the theme you are using, and edit theme.cfg
[03:30] <mrDaniel> THANK YOU all for your help, the page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238668 have helped me. the problem is, that the last update of compiz make a renmae from libvte.so.4 to libvte.so.9
[03:30] <fredl> Generating package: Ubuntu/dapper
[03:30] <fredl> Requested package is not supported.
[03:30] <fredl> Oh man....
[03:30] <noko> Can't use Dictionary 2.14.0, port 2628 firewalled.
[03:30] <mrDaniel> now the problem i gone, THANK YOU very much
[03:30] <fredl> this drama doesn't end.
[03:30] <CBMz> @kads i'm waiting.
[03:30] <kads> @CBMz I will sent it to you
[03:30] <kads> @CBMz I sent it to you
[03:31] <wheels3572> Can anyone here help me with Azureus
[03:31] <kads> @CBMz you need to accept
[03:31] <OPU|Leviathan> hello ive installed xubuntu how can i get VNC server runing so i can connect to the machine via VNC ?
[03:31] <msoul> [b] urk: it's not a directory
[03:31] <CBMz> @kads what? i didn't recieve any notice or something
[03:31] <msoul> sid_fluxarnation
[03:31] <Elios> ok
[03:31] <kads> @CBMz how adount now?
[03:31] <kads> @CBMz what the hell
[03:31] <CBMz> @kads not supported or something, connection failed
[03:31] <fredl> ofcourse the old ATI drivers don't work on Xorg 7.0.0 *booohooohooo*
[03:31] <dr_willis> OPU|Leviathan,  install the vnc4server package. is what i normally use
[03:32] <CBMz> @kads just upload it to rapidshare or something
[03:32] <fredl> What WAS I thinking???
[03:32] <kads> @CBMz I will I gtg for a sec i will be back in 20 mins
[03:32] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here on 2.6.17 and has wifi working?
[03:32] <wheels3572> dr_willis, What do you use as the viewer for VNC?
[03:32] <dr_willis> wheels3572,  about any of them work. :P depends on the os i am using. Under windows i tend to use Ultravnc
[03:33] <si2004309> ola
[03:33] <si2004309> teste
[03:33] <wheels3572> dr_willis, I am looking for something similar to tightvnc viewer but for xubuntu
[03:33] <xopher_> mrDaniel np
[03:33] <mrDaniel> :)
[03:33] <dr_willis> wheels3572,  means very little to me. :P i tend to use so many different ones.. most of the basic viewers are about the same feature wise
[03:34] <wheels3572> dr_willis, oh ok
[03:34] <si2004309> oi
[03:35] <AshDragonScale> pianoboy3333: Do you have NDISWRAPPER installed?
[03:35] <pianoboy3333> AshDragonScale: nope
[03:36] <KenSentMe> How do i switch to the next window in irssi?
[03:36] <AshDragonScale> pianoboy3333: in a terminal type sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[03:36] <fredl> Does anybody know a way to install the old ATI drivers on Dapper?!?!?!
[03:36] <pianoboy3333> my wifi works in 2.6.15 w/o it
[03:36] <pianoboy3333> but, ok
[03:36] <xopher_> Is there a remote desktop application that can log directly to your desktop, so that I can see everything as I left it. (e.g. running apps etc).
[03:36] <waspius> what does multi-download mean?in valknut
[03:36] <si2004309> tem algum brasileiro na sala?
[03:37] <si2004309> tem algum brasileiro na sala?
[03:37] <si2004309> tem algum brasileiro na sala?
[03:37] <si2004309> tem algum brasileiro na sala?
[03:37] <si2004309> tem algum brasileiro na sala?
[03:37] <JackMacOKC> this is an english channel
[03:37] <pianoboy3333> AshDragonScale: the package isn't named ndiswrapper.... hold on
[03:37] <azureal> dr_willis, i've always had ls --color=auto as an alias for ls... some filetypes don't change color in urxvt
[03:37] <KenSentMe> !pt > si2004309
[03:37] <AshDragonScale> pianoboy3333: dunno then... that is what I have always used to get mine installed...
[03:37] <dravas> Uhh how to add NTFS write support in Linux and what is the max filesize supported in FAT32
[03:37] <dr_willis> azureal,  if ls isent set up to recogonize them - then it wont mess with them. check the ls man pages for how to add more  i guess.
[03:37] <pianoboy3333> AshDragonScale: ok, now what?
[03:38] <JackMacOKC> !fuse > dravas
[03:38] <pianoboy3333> try it?
[03:38] <JackMacOKC> dravas: 4gb
[03:38] <si2004309> oi
[03:38] <fredl> Does anybody know a way to install the old ATI drivers on Dapper?
[03:38] <lamego> Dracon, there is an experimental driver for ntfs write, but it is *BETA, the max file size on FAT32 is 2 GBs
[03:38] <pianoboy3333> fredl: just build your own
[03:38] <lamego> fredl, what do you mean by old ?
[03:38] <xopher_> fredl tried the ati channel?
[03:38] <fredl> lamego: The ones that worked in Breezy.
[03:38] <JackMacOKC> dravas: oops, i mean what lamego said..2gb, not 4gb
[03:38] <pianoboy3333> fredl: follow method 2 on http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[03:39] <AshDragonScale> pianoboy3333:  try ndiswrapper-utils
[03:39] <pianoboy3333> yep
[03:39] <fredl> pianoboy3333 - thanks I tried that but that's for the latest ATI driver which is also broken for me.
[03:39] <pianoboy3333> ?
[03:39] <pianoboy3333> fredl: have you tried this guide before?
[03:39] <fredl> lamego: 8.16.20
[03:39] <fredl> pianoboy3333 - yes, just did it.
[03:39] <pianoboy3333> that quickly?
[03:39] <pianoboy3333> wow
[03:39] <AshDragonScale> and to get a graphical front end try sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[03:40] <fredl> no, earlier today.
[03:40] <OPU|Leviathan> im using Xfce. how can i get vnc server?
[03:40] <pianoboy3333> AshDragonScale: right, so, reboot into the newer kernel and try it?
[03:40] <shaantanu> hi everyone ... I have a problem while configuring VMware ... plz check http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20976
[03:40] <Kyja> epitaf: did you get my query?
[03:40] <si2004309> oi
[03:40] <epitaf> Kyja : sorry i was out
[03:40] <xopher_> fredl https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBList.asp?folderID=1514
[03:41] <xopher_> as I said. ati.com :)
[03:41] <shaantanu> xopher_: plz check http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20976
[03:41] <xopher_> Ill check
[03:41] <TMM_> hi all
[03:42] <lamego> shaantanu, you should not be using root
[03:42] <fredl> xopher_: Well I had found the driver already :) thanks anyway, but it won't install on Xorg 7.0.0, so my question is if there's a way to get that done anyway.
[03:42] <JackMacOKC> shaantanu: looks like you need build-essential
[03:42] <shaantanu> JackMacOKC: temme abt it
[03:42] <ubuntu> hi room
[03:42] <JackMacOKC> shaantanu: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[03:42] <shaantanu> what does it do
[03:42] <eigenlambda> hi ubuntu
[03:42] <lamego> shaantanu, and you need to install build essential
[03:42] <TMM_> can someone please tell me if, if I do an rsync -avz on a local dir to copy stuff over to server somewhere on my network that has an out-of-date copy of the same data, will rsync actually do things incremental? or do I need to setup an rsync server for that?
[03:42] <ubuntu> eigenlambda: hiya
[03:43] <xopher_> shaantanu yep, looks like thats what you need
[03:43] <JackMacOKC> shaantanu: installs the tools to build things, such as vmware
[03:43] <shaantanu> u mean (19:12:43) JackMacOKC: shaantanu: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[03:43] <ubuntu> TMM_:  u will have to chk rsync option
[03:43] <JackMacOKC> shaantanu: like the gcc compiler and such
[03:43] <CBMz> @kads there already?
[03:43] <ubuntu> CBMz: hi
[03:43] <lamego> TMM, what will you be using on the remote server to get the files ?
[03:43] <JackMacOKC> shaantanu: in a terminal, type 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[03:44] <TMM> ubuntu, well, I did, this is my best guess :)
[03:44] <shaantanu> JackMacOKC: U want me to compile the kernel ??
[03:44] <nightattack> hello, how can I share folders while on linux with my sister's windows PC?
[03:44] <TMM> I was just trying to verify, copying all of this data takes about 1.5 day
[03:44] <fredl> are drivers for Xorg 7.0.0 fundamentally different that Xorg 6.8 drivers?
[03:44] <ubuntu> TMM:  1 ? for ya
[03:44] <CBMz> @hey ubuntu
[03:44] <ubuntu> TMM:  does rsync has resume feature
[03:45] <JackMacOKC> shaantanu: no, you don't compile any kernels. i don't know any other way of saying "type in a terminal 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'"
[03:45] <TMM> rsync is supposed to work incrementally, I am just not sure if it will do that if I don't have an rsync server
[03:45] <xopher_> shaantanu, build-essential is a set of tools that you need to build things, like this vmware module
[03:45] <shaantanu> JackMacOKC: that was what i was look in for
[03:45] <shaantanu> the explaination by xopher
[03:46] <shaantanu> gimme the repository as well
[03:46] <JackMacOKC> 08:43 < JackMacOKC> shaantanu: installs the tools to build things, such as vmware
[03:46] <fredl> are drivers for Xorg 7.0.0 fundamentally different that Xorg 6.8 drivers?
[03:46] <shaantanu> E: Package build-essential has no installation candidate
[03:46] <JackMacOKC> !repos > shaantanu
[03:46] <nightattack> hello, How can I share folders on the network as well as view the network PCs?
[03:46] <ubuntu> TMM:  ok got something for
[03:46] <shaantanu> hmm
[03:47] <ubuntu> TMM:  try the -u fature
[03:47] <GNAM> yes fredl
[03:47] <ubuntu> feature*
[03:47] <GNAM> have you vmware problems fredl?
[03:47] <xopher_> shaantanu you might not have the correct repository enabled
[03:47] <shaantanu> what repo i need
[03:47] <shaantanu> xopher_:temme
[03:47] <fredl> GNAM - I have ATI driver problems, not vmware
[03:47] <xopher_> shaantanu, well it should be in main..
[03:48] <JackMacOKC> for build-essential i think multiverse? or is that in main?
[03:48] <lamego> build essentil is in main
[03:48] <shaantanu> I have that one enabled
[03:48] <ubuntu> TMM:  there r some option for ur need TMM  chk them out
[03:48] <snoops> !info build-essential
[03:48] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[03:48] <ubuntu> i see lot
[03:49] <CBMz> !info wine
[03:49] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[03:49] <xopher_> shaantanu well sudo apt-get install build-essential should do it then..
[03:49] <nightattack> hello, How can I share folders on the network as well as view the network PCs?
[03:49] <xopher_> make sure you didnt misstype it
[03:49] <shaantanu> its giving me the error
[03:49] <shaantanu> E: Package build-essential has no installation candidate
[03:49] <JackMacOKC> shaantanu: sudo apt-get update first
[03:49] <snoops> nightattack are the other pcs on the network linux computers?
[03:50] <xopher_> and if that doesnt help, you can always download the package manually from packages.ubuntu.com .. ( http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=build-essential&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=main )
[03:50] <nightattack> snoops , no windows pc :(
[03:50] <shaantanu>  JackMacOKC: I still get the sam eeroor ... plz gimme the repo i need to add to my source.list
[03:50] <snoops> nightattack k, that's fine.. you'll just be using samba then :)
[03:50] <JackMacOKC> !repos > shaantanu
[03:50] <JackMacOKC> shaantanu: read that
[03:50] <shaantanu> thats fine ... I mean do i need to get main ??
[03:51] <kernelpanic> Hi all new to Ubuntu running on ppc, trying to find instructions on how to upgrade from 5.04 to 6.06, as the cd wont boot, is it possible to upgrade from within my current install?
[03:51] <JackMacOKC> shaantanu: you need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file and uncomment the lines with the main repository on it
[03:51] <snoops> nightattack for sharing I'm pretty sure you need to go to settings>administration>sharing or it's settings>perferences>sharing
[03:51] <shaantanu> fine i 'll check out
[03:51] <nightattack> snoops I've been there, I put a folder there for share, but I don't know where it is, or maybe the settings were wrong
[03:52] <ubuntu> kernelpanic: yep u can update from 5 to 6 via net
[03:52] <JackMacOKC> kernelpanic: shouldnt be a problem
[03:52] <snoops> nightattack basically it just allows you to see what you want.. now there's a few ways to connect to other peoples pcs.. will you be wanting to stream the data from the pcs you connect to?
[03:53] <nightattack> snoops yes
[03:53] <xopher_> kernelpanic, just change the dapper entries in your sources.list to edgy, and then do a 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' - might wanna make some backups first..
[03:53] <erUSUL> !upgrade > kernelpanic
[03:53] <snoops> nightattack then, the best way I can suggest is to set it up in an rc file
[03:54] <snoops> first you can "sudo apt-get install smbfs samba" in terminal
[03:54] <kernelpanic> are there any specific instructions anywhere on net for setting up to upgrade? I looked on the ubuntu forums but was unable to find any specific instructions.  even went to the link provided by the upgrade manager.  I assume I need to add a repositories to upgrade from. Am I on th eright track?
[03:54] <ubuntu> kernelpanic:  there r some links
[03:54] <jpjacobs> share mouse
[03:54] <jpjacobs> darn, wrong keyboard
[03:55] <JackMacOKC> kernelpanic: the easiest way IMO: change everything from breezy to dapper in your sources.list, then do a apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:55] <erUSUL> kernelpanic: read the links ubotu told you in the pm
[03:55] <erUSUL> !upgrade
[03:55] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[03:55] <nightattack> snoops what's an rc file?
[03:55] <ubuntu> hi jack
[03:55] <snoops> nightattack did you apt-get those two things?
[03:55] <shaantanu> I m totally clueless :: check out my sources.list : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20979
[03:56] <jman888> is there any program to Make a video dvd on ubuntu?
[03:56] <ramanoar> hi there, could someone help me on a video card to work properly over ubuntu?
[03:56] <kernelpanic> k thanks will go and read up and have a go at it.  Thanks for the help
[03:56] <JackMacOKC> ramanoar: which video card?
[03:56] <snoops> oh and nightattack can you ping the others pcs on your network.. because we should know that you can actually talk to them first
[03:56] <ramanoar> Ati Rage 128 Pro
[03:56] <ubuntu> kernelpanic:  make BACKUPS :)
[03:56] <snoops> nightattack before we get to mounting hdd's that is :)
[03:56] <nightattack> snoops how can I check lol
[03:57] <ramanoar> JackMacOKC: i can't get ati driver to work, only vesa works =/
[03:57] <JackMacOKC> ramanoar: what seems to be the problem?
[03:57] <fredl> ramanoar - I have an ATI too, an X700 Pro PCI Express card.
[03:57] <shaantanu> jack: did u see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20979 ??
[03:57] <JackMacOKC> ramanoar: the ati driver does not work with that card
[03:57] <JackMacOKC> ramanoar: its not a 3d card
[03:57] <Elios> ubuntu: im trying to add another all user share
[03:57] <ramanoar> JackMacOKC: i tried to reconfigure xorg for ati card, but gdm doesn't start
[03:57] <ramanoar> it freezes
[03:57] <Elios> and i added the samba entry and the dir is there
[03:57] <ongoingnicchangi> anyone available to walk a total ubuntu dupe into installing his first ubuntu?
[03:57] <snoops> nightattack open a terminal and type "ping nameofnetworkedcomputer" or "ping ipaddressofnetworkedcomputer"
[03:57] <Elios> but its not showing up
[03:57] <JackMacOKC> ramanoar: yes it will, you need to reconfigure xorg again and not use ati as your driver
[03:57] <fredl> JackMacOKC: could you perhaps help me too? :)
[03:57] <snoops> replacing those things with the actual name or ip address of course
[03:58] <JackMacOKC> i can try :)
[03:58] <ubuntu> Elios:  no idea bout samba , sorry bro
[03:58] <Elios> k
[03:58] <ramanoar> JackMacOKC: what should i use then ?
[03:58] <ramanoar> i wanted at least a 1152x864 @ 75Hz resolution
[03:58] <realist> bruceh: it almost installs itself
[03:58] <fredl> JackMacOKC, I basically got my X700 Pro to work, but it becomes unstable after unpredictable time.
[03:58] <Ropechoborra> Im accesing my sshd, and when i connect it says 'you have mail' ( see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20980 ) but, i dont have mail... what mail is it saying about?
[03:58] <ramanoar> the way it is now I only get 1024x768 @ 85Hz
[03:58] <ubuntu> Ropechoborra: run the mail command
[03:59] <Ropechoborra> wich one is that?
[03:59] <Jman8888> !videodvd
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about videodvd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <Ropechoborra> "ail" ?
[03:59] <realist> Ropechoborra: anything waiting for you in /var/spool/mail usually
[03:59] <Ropechoborra> "mail" ?
[03:59] <ubuntu> just type mail in konsole
[03:59] <Ropechoborra> Ok
[03:59] <CarinArr> ramanoar, what video card do you have?
[03:59] <fredl> ramanoar - yoou can try using the 'radeon' driver.
[03:59] <Ropechoborra> ubotu command not found
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about command not found - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <ramanoar> CarinArr: Ati Rage 128 Pro
[03:59] <Ropechoborra> ubuntu command not found
[03:59] <realist> Ropechoborra: "mail" may not be installed by default, 'apt-get install mail'
[03:59] <JackMacOKC> ramanoar: no don't use the radeon driver, and don't use fglrx
[03:59] <richiefrich> !cups
[03:59] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:00] <realist> Or for a more friendly curses interface, try 'mutt'
[04:00] <eigenlambda> ramanoar: use r128
[04:00] <JackMacOKC> fredl: i'm not an expert on the ati's 3d package. sorry
[04:00] <eigenlambda> of course
[04:00] <greeN-eYe> /j I'm considering buying a LCD in Wiesbaden
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[04:00] <shaantanu> !gnomebaker > jman8888
[04:00] <Ropechoborra> realist cant find mail package
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnomebaker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <fredl> JackMacOKC, you know anybody who is?
[04:00] <CarinArr> !ati
[04:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:00] <ubuntu> mail command not found , umm
[04:00] <ramanoar> eigenlambda: i changed it in xorg config file, but didn't work too
[04:00] <CarinArr> ramanoar, i take it you've tried the above
[04:00] <CarinArr> ?
[04:00] <fredl> ubotu needs to have information added, can that be done?
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about needs to have information added, can that be done? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <JackMacOKC> carinarr: thats for ati 3d cards, his is not 3d
[04:01] <eigenlambda> ramanoar: you might have better luck with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:01] <Jman8888> shaantanu, That can make a video Dvd? From avi's?
[04:01] <bruceh> is fedora better than ubuntu?
[04:01] <nightattack> snoops yes i can ping them
[04:01] <ubuntu> bruceh:  no way
[04:01] <eigenlambda> JackMacOKC: yes it is.  rage128 does so do 3d
[04:01] <JackMacOKC> bruceh: take a guess, no
[04:01] <erUSUL> CarinArr: the ati.com drivers doesn't support such an old card
[04:01] <shaantanu> just search for gnome baker
[04:01] <eigenlambda> yes.  use r128
[04:01] <bruceh> i'm having trouble installing ubuntu
[04:01] <shaantanu> I believe it will help u
[04:01] <bruceh> constant crashing
[04:01] <realist> Ropechoborra: try 'mutt'
[04:01] <virogenesis> bruceh, define better
[04:01] <snoops> nightattack sweet okay.. did you run that "sudo apt-get install samba smbfs" in terminal?
[04:01] <eigenlambda> r128 has good mesa support
[04:01] <ubuntu> gnome baker in in synaptic
[04:01] <ramanoar> eigenlambda: ok, i'll try using that, but everytime i did, nothing worked... only default ubuntu config works
[04:01] <ramanoar> i'll try and get back here
[04:01] <JackMacOKC> eigenlambda: well technically yes, but not in the sense he's wanting. he's trying to use radeon drivers
[04:01] <eigenlambda> ramanoar: wait
[04:01] <nightattack> snoops not smbfs, i'll get that
[04:01] <Jman8888> shaantanu, I have gnomebaker. Never saw a VIDEO DVD option. to make one from avi's?
[04:01] <eigenlambda> maybe you need to change something
[04:01] <eigenlambda> so the changes will take effect
[04:02] <ramanoar> eigenlambda: like what ?
[04:02] <realist> bruceh: I prefer ubuntu over redhat.
[04:02] <eigenlambda> um
[04:02] <virogenesis> bruceh, which installer you using?
[04:02] <Ropechoborra> Ready... thanks
[04:02] <Radiance`> yo
[04:02] <SPOPPO> sup?
[04:02] <eigenlambda> something like something in /var/somewhere
[04:02] <bruceh> no idea
[04:02] <cabuloso> i have apache2.0 on dapper, and it dont allow anyone to download .odt files for example... anyone knows how i can set it to alow ?
[04:02] <bruceh> i dl'd a utorrent version
[04:02] <ramanoar> eigenlambda: hahahah
[04:02] <bruceh> in ubuntu site
[04:02] <bruceh> burned iso
[04:02] <eigenlambda> wasn't there something like, if you edit xorg.conf, and it's md5sum isn't in /var/somewhere,
[04:02] <realist> Simply because dpkg + apt > rpm + up2date/yum
[04:02] <eigenlambda> , you can't use dpkg to change it again?
[04:02] <snoops> nightattack okay cool.. once that's done, now we're going to add stuff to a file.. in terminal if you want to type 'sudo gedit /etc/rc.local' without quotes.
[04:02] <virogenesis> is it the live cd version?
[04:02] <fredl> bruceh - maybe your iso is corrupt.
[04:02] <bruceh> yes
[04:02] <bruceh> did a cd check
[04:02] <fredl> hmm
[04:02] <bruceh> said it was ok
[04:03] <richiefrich> bruceh did u md5sum check it
[04:03] <ramanoar> eigenlambda: i may try using dpkg again...
[04:03] <syntaxx> is there a virtual cd rom on linux? ^^
[04:03] <bruceh> yes
[04:03] <ubuntu> bruceh:  u working with fc5?
[04:03] <snoops> nightattack now at the bottom of rc.local basically you can just paste lines like this:
[04:03] <bruceh> going to today
[04:03] <richiefrich> Jman8888 u need help
[04:03] <fredl> that's odd. I have updated Breezy though and not done a fresh install of Dapper. You have dl'ed the Dapper CD's right?
[04:03] <ramanoar> is that a way of using dpkg only to reconfigure the video card, 'cause my keyboard and mouse are ok
[04:03] <JackMacOKC> ramanoar: yes, thats what you need to do
[04:03] <snoops> nightattack: mount -t smbfs //IO/C$  /media/IOC -o username=Administrator,password=mypasswordhere,dmask=777,fmask=777
[04:03] <ubuntu> bruceh:  intel motherboard?
[04:03] <erUSUL> ramanoar: try to use the r128 driver directly (edit xorg.conf and change s/ati/r128/ ). more info 'man r128'
[04:03] <bruceh> yes
[04:03] <ubuntu> yes it is having issues here too
[04:03] <Jman8888> richiefrich, Yes. I have a bunch of avi's i want to watch on my Tv. And i want them burnnt with my dvd burner onto a dvd
[04:04] <snoops> nightattack you'll need to create the folders you want to 'mount' to first in media.. so sudo mkdir /media/BLAH
[04:04] <richiefrich> Jman8888   http://justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142299&highlight=dvd+avi
[04:04] <bruceh> right now m ubuntu install is stuck in installing system
[04:04] <ramanoar> erUSUL: i edited only with 'r128'... is that wrong?
[04:04] <richiefrich> Jman8888 but 1st does your dvd player  play  avi's ?
[04:04] <ubuntu> whats with ubuntu?
[04:04] <snoops> the //IO/C$ nightattack is the computer name, plus share name
[04:04] <SPOPPO> fun
[04:04] <Radiance`> don't know
[04:04] <nightattack> snoops BLAH made :p
[04:04] <tjm> ubuntu, how d'you mean ?
[04:04] <richiefrich> Jman8888  what dvd standup  player to u have
[04:05] <ubuntu> tjm:  i was asking bruceh  , his ubuntu installation has hanged
[04:05] <Jman8888> richiefrich, No. My dvd player playe dvd
[04:05] <fredl> gawd, I really can't stand this. On Breezy with the old ATI drivers everything used to work great... now it's completely broken and no matter what I try I can't fix it :(
[04:05] <erUSUL> Jman8888: a convination of ffmeg and dvdauthor ??
[04:05] <snoops> nightattack now you may not have to put in username and passwords.. but you will need dmask=777,fmask=777
[04:05] <erUSUL> ramanoar: you used the r128 driver and it failed?
[04:06] <nightattack> snoops mount -t smbfs //IO/C$  /media/IOC -o username=Administrator,password=mypasswordhere,dmask=777,fmask=777
[04:06] <tjm> ubuntu, oh right, sorry
[04:06] <nightattack> snoops this one? with /media/IOC or /media/BLAH?
[04:06] <richiefrich> Jman8888  u can get a divx stanup player for 70$
[04:06] <ramanoar> erUSUL: i edited where it was 'mesa' to 'r128' and didn't work
[04:06] <ramanoar> only that i tried
[04:06] <snoops> mount -t smbfs //remotecomputername/sharename /media/foldertomountto
[04:06] <ramanoar> no other changes
[04:06] <abhinay> problem with login , help plz http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d20981
[04:06] <Elios> ok hmm slight problem here
[04:06] <Jman8888> erUSUL, ? Is eiher of theose easily done with a gui or terminal?
[04:07] <richiefrich> Jman8888 but that site i showed it works
[04:07] <ubuntu> brb
[04:07] <eigenlambda> im using an r128
[04:07] <Elios> i when to check that another PC on the network can see the shares
[04:07] <richiefrich> Jman8888 yes use a terminal
[04:07] <ramanoar> eigenlambda: how did you configured it ?
[04:07] <Elios> and i used MY login and hit remeber pass out of habbit
[04:07] <Elios> >.>
[04:07] <ramanoar> eigenlambda: using dpkg ?
[04:07] <Jman8888> richiefrich, But thats a lot of terminal. I'll Try it though.
[04:07] <Elios> how do i undo that
[04:07] <Elios> XD
[04:07] <eigenlambda> Section "Device"
[04:07] <eigenlambda>         Identifier      "ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 PD/PRO TMDS"
[04:07] <eigenlambda>         Driver          "r128"
[04:07] <eigenlambda>         BusID           "PCI:1:14:0"
[04:07] <eigenlambda> EndSection
[04:07] <erUSUL> Jman8888: i've found qdvdauthor in the repos
[04:07] <richiefrich> Jman8888  whats alot ?
[04:08] <eigenlambda> maybe you shouldn't have the same identifier or busid as me though
[04:08] <richiefrich> Jman8888  i see 6 steps
[04:08] <ramanoar> eigenlambda: that's exactly mine, except for BusID
[04:08] <realist> Poll: Has anyone here had any success running xgl+compiz+gnome on older ATI/Radeon hardware using propriatry drivers?
[04:08] <erUSUL> !paste > eigenlambda
[04:08] <bruceh> fedora core gonna take me 6 hours to dl :(
[04:08] <richiefrich> Jman8888  and step 2 is optional
[04:08] <Jman8888> richiefrich, Thats a lot of typing because i want about 10 or more clips on it....
[04:08] <ramanoar> eigenlambda: how do i see my busid ?
[04:08] <eigenlambda> lspci
[04:08] <ramanoar> hmm
[04:08] <richiefrich> Jman8888 combine all the avi's 1st
[04:08] <eigenlambda> 0000:01:0e.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 PD/PRO TMDS
[04:09] <richiefrich> Jman8888 into one
[04:09] <eigenlambda> is what i get from lspci
[04:09] <ramanoar> eigenlambda: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 PF/PRO AGP 4x TMDS
[04:09] <ramanoar> mine
[04:09] <Jman8888> richiefrich, But there all seperate things.... I guess i could do it.
[04:09] <richiefrich> Jman8888 are u afriad to type.. u do it here..
[04:09] <eigenlambda> oh ya, and you mite want to say "Mode 0666" in Section: DRI
[04:09] <duane> hey, y'all
[04:09] <eigenlambda> ok, what that means is, you need to say BusID: 1:0:0
[04:10] <ramanoar> eigenlambda: the dri it's correct on xorg.conf
[04:10] <duane> is there a good 64-bit virtualization software out there?
[04:10] <snoops> realist what radeon?
[04:10] <nightattack> snoops thanks for your help :P
[04:10] <tjm> duane, hey
[04:10] <eigenlambda> duane: whats that supposed to mean?
[04:10] <realist> snoops: RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] 
[04:10] <duane> like vmware
[04:10] <ramanoar> eigenlambda: well... Section "Device"
[04:10] <ramanoar>         Identifier      "ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage 128 PF/PRO AGP 4x TMDS"
[04:10] <ramanoar>         Driver          "vesa"
[04:10] <ramanoar>         BusID           "PCI:1:0:0"
[04:11] <duane> except I'd like to compile it for 64-bit, so preferably free/open source
[04:11] <richiefrich> vesa
[04:11] <richiefrich> ramanoar why vesa
[04:11] <ramanoar> eigenlambda: Section "DRI"
[04:11] <eigenlambda> ya
[04:11] <ramanoar>         Mode    0666
[04:11] <ramanoar> EndSection
[04:11] <eigenlambda> change Driver
[04:11] <realist> snoops: I've heard it'll on run on 9600 or greater, is that true?
[04:11] <eigenlambda> from vesa to r128
[04:11] <snoops> nightattack happy to :) if you put those lines, to as many shares as you want in /etc/rc.local then next time you reboot all shares will show up in PLACES and on your desktop for you :)
[04:11] <OPU|Leviathan> sudo: timestamp too far in the future
[04:11] <OPU|Leviathan> any ideas?
[04:11] <realist> s/on/only/
[04:11] <ramanoar> richiefrich: it's the only one that works
[04:11] <richiefrich> ramanoar i beg to differ
[04:11] <erUSUL> !paste > ramanoar
[04:11] <snoops> realist for that card.. I'd recommend aiglx actually
[04:11] <Elios> can i get some help with samba?
[04:12] <eigenlambda> !gay > erUSUL
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gay - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:12] <duane> do any of you use some kind of vmware type product?
[04:12] <richiefrich> lol
[04:12] <byteshack> I've got some NX funkyness
[04:12] <byteshack> I can't seem to run rxvt
[04:12] <duane> I was thinking of parallels, but....
[04:12] <byteshack> or xterm -rv
[04:12] <richiefrich> eigenlambda priceless!
[04:12] <realist> snoops: are they open source?
[04:12] <byteshack> I get:  program: can't load color "xyz"
[04:12] <byteshack> any ideas?
[04:12] <ramanoar> richiefrich: man, i tried to change it to r128, but ubuntu freezes
[04:12] <snoops> realist aiglx is part of X now..I'll get a guide
[04:12] <richiefrich> ramanoar and did u look at the log?
[04:13] <ramanoar> the way my xorg.conf it, i changed only the driver, and didn't work
[04:13] <richiefrich> ramanoar are u using a login manager?
[04:13] <richiefrich> ramanoar and did u look at the log?
[04:13] <ramanoar> nop =/
[04:13] <richiefrich> ramanoar do u know what a log it or where it is
[04:13] <ramanoar> yeah yeah
[04:13] <nightattack> snopps ok thanks again :)
[04:13] <richiefrich> ramanoar ok then i suggest u look at it
[04:13] <ramanoar> but i didn't look at it
[04:14] <ramanoar> alright
[04:14] <richiefrich> vesa blows
[04:14] <richiefrich> cga is almost as good  LOL
[04:14] <snoops> nightattack and if you want to browse those drives while you haven't rebooted, just run those commands in terminal.. but they won't stay mounted after reboot unless you put them in /etc/rc.local
[04:14] <snoops> realist http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068
[04:14] <abhinay> help plz http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d20981
[04:17] <realist> snoops: cheers, thanks for the heads up
[04:19] <snoops> realist the main guide, which you probably should read anyway is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager
[04:21] <sedrake> I shared a folder with SMB, now what username/password should I use to  get access to the files from my windows computer?
[04:23] <y3it221_klce> hey
[04:23] <W9ZEB-Lars> by default is Drake ALSA or OSS?
[04:23] <y3it221_klce> can anyone tell me how to install Ubuntu using
[04:23] <y3it221_klce> noapic and nolapic
[04:23] <W9ZEB-Lars> and how would I determine that on my own?
[04:25] <justin_> How do you install Fluxbox?, - get-apt install fluxbox?
[04:25] <duane> does anyone here use xen?
[04:25] <CarinArr> justin_, yep
[04:25] <justin_> Good
[04:26] <Wulfie> hey folks - I am trying to install the latest ATI drivers on Ubuntu but once complete it won't seem to load libGLcore - any thoughts?
[04:27] <justin_> Ubuntu is simply the best Linux I have ever used, installing software is even easier then windows :)) - not too mention, its fun to play with synaptic haha
[04:27] <CBMz> Yup. ubuntu is the best.
[04:27] <RedGhost> What is Linux?
[04:28] <justin_> RedGhost: :P
[04:28] <auxi> CBMz, How many 'nixs have you tryed?
[04:28] <richiefrich> CBMz u havent tried many have u
[04:28] <CBMz> auxi, redhat, slackware, knoppix, mandrake 9.2, gentoo
[04:28] <richiefrich> auxi exactly :P
[04:28] <justin_> CBMz: The first time I left a linux distro installed for more then 2 weeks haha, I have had FREEBSD for a while, but was never fond of Linux.. for some reason
[04:28] <ramanoar> hello hello...
[04:28] <ramanoar> xserver freezes when ati driver chosen
[04:28] <richiefrich> CBMz then u havent tird them long
[04:28] <ramanoar> no option for r128
[04:29] <realist> richiefrich: I happen to agree with CBMz
[04:29] <auxi> realist, Why ?
[04:29] <richiefrich> realist  yes why
[04:29] <RedGhost> I've used slackware and gentoo and Debian and I prefer Ubuntu to all of them :\
[04:29] <realist> Well, this is comming from my perspective as a BSD and Debian user
[04:29] <RedGhost> Remember that the kernel is basically identical and it's just the layout, applications and X.
[04:30] <auxi> Can I have some reasons why Ubuntu is so astounding ?
[04:30] <realist> I like that Ubuntu is based around Debian package management, is community based, and backed with corporate funding
[04:30] <realist> Includes corporate support schemes
[04:30] <auxi> realist,  does the corporate funding really reasure you?
[04:30] <bruceh_loitering> it does me
[04:30] <realist> Ease of use, ease of installation
[04:30] <realist> auxi: not me, CEO types
[04:30] <auxi> won't it eventually become Ubuntu: Sponsored by pepsi, or something?
[04:31] <RedGhost> Do we really need to get into this distro battle, the kernel's are usually almost identical so get off it guys it doesn't matter.
[04:31] <bruceh_loitering> ease of installation not such high standing with me atm
[04:31] <realist> It really -is- "Linux for human beings"
[04:31] <IsomerX> question: what is 'blues-utils'?
[04:31] <realist> bruceh_loitering: keep in mind, I am from a Debian background
[04:31] <IsomerX> poo.... *bluez-utils
[04:31] <auxi> realist, So why did you switch [not starting a war, this is just curiosity] 
[04:31] <realist> So any auto-detection/configuration of hardware counts as "ease of install" to me
[04:32] <realist> auxi: I *still* use Free/OpenBSD and Debian
[04:32] <y3it221_klce> bluez-utils is for bluetooth devices
[04:32] <RedGhost> Because he liked the community, support, applications and X of one distro better? Because that is _all_ they are.
[04:32] <realist> I just prefer Ubuntu for 'desktop' use
[04:32] <justin_> realist: Yeah, its second to my Freebsd now, but I am suprised a Linux that I actually like.. - really good work from the Ubuntu team, let's hope they do not mess up :))
[04:33] <justin_> But if they do that's ok I ordered a dapper CD, just in case ;)
[04:33] <richiefrich> realist i disagree unbuntu doesnt just work.. as everyone says...
[04:33] <realist> It's basically Debian on steriods.
[04:33] <richiefrich> auxi what do u use?
[04:33] <auxi> richiefrich, Debian
[04:33] <bruceh_loitering> this si funny. burning a new ubuntu iso has taken 21 mins so far
[04:33] <realist> richiefrich: milage will always vary
[04:33] <richiefrich> realist if it was so easy i would not see any questions in here
[04:33] <realist> Unless you've got some really 'exotic' peice of hardware, Ubuntu practically installs itself
[04:34] <richiefrich> i guess thats my point
[04:34] <bruceh_loitering> anyone know of someone with experience with windows xp embedded?
[04:34] <realist> richiefrich: I can't really speak on how 'newbie-friendly' ubuntu is
[04:34] <realist> Having used Debian for the last 10+ years
[04:34] <auxi> realist, but debian practically installs itself
[04:34] <richiefrich> realist now that i say it is
[04:34] <justin_> realist: Yes, I still keep freebsd for my scientific and server use - but for desktop use where it used to be Windows 2003, its now Ubuntu all the way - I think Ubuntu is a success where Mandrake failed.
[04:34] <IsomerX> I don't like that it doesn't setup the runlevels correctly :-(
[04:34] <richiefrich> realist compaired to gentoo.. arch.. slack
[04:35] <RedGhost> Why would you use Windows server 2003 for a desktop? :\
[04:35] <frogzoo> bruceh_loitering: the only thing xp should be embedded in would be wet cement
[04:35] <realist> justin_: Mandrake failed by being a RedHat clone
[04:35] <richiefrich> bruceh_loitering i think this is not the place for windows xp questions :P
[04:35] <realist> Any distro based from Debian, is bound to be better than anything RPM based ;p
[04:35] <richiefrich> realist and whats FC ?
[04:35] <realist> (Not to start a religious war)
[04:35] <IsomerX> tack 'init 3' to the end of the end of the start up line... poof GUI... wtf?
[04:36] <realist> richiefrich: A pile of crud?
[04:36] <justin_> realist: :)) Yeah but it was a cleaner easier Linux for a while, until it started to bloat itself up so much that windows was just quicker
[04:36] <bruceh_loitering> ;)
[04:36] <abhinay> The application 'x-session-manager' lost its connection to the display :20.0;  what does it mean ?
[04:36] <justin_> And what was strange about Mandrake was it did not matter if you had FLux or XFCE - it would still go slow
[04:37] <RedGhost> bruceh_loitering, I have experience with Windows XP application and some driver development, what is the problem?
[04:37] <auxi> justin_, Nice, haha
[04:37] <realist> Remind me what XFCE is?
[04:37] <bruceh_loitering> trying to create an embedded image and transfering it to a system not connected to my development system
[04:37] <auxi> realist, it's a WM, kind of inbetween Gnome and Flux
[04:37] <realist> Interesting...
[04:37] <bruceh_loitering> choose bootable cd pathway. could never get it to successfully load onto virgin system
[04:37] <frano> hey i am frano and i am from zamlinje....can you tell me how to posadit patatos
[04:37] <realist> Might have to look into that
[04:38] <realist> Currently on a fluxbox debian box
[04:38] <auxi> realist, why d'you use flux?
[04:38] <realist> Use an Ubuntu Gnome box at work
[04:38] <virogenesis> xfce = light weight gtk DE
[04:38] <realist> Might be interesting to see the 'middle ground' as it were
[04:38] <realist> auxi: limited resources
[04:38] <auxi> realist, :(
[04:39] <realist> Was using blackbox on solaris for a while, on a physical xterm (aka 'thin client')
[04:39] <realist> So I guess fluxbox was a natural progression for me
[04:40] <auxi> realist, I like flux alot, I used it before I switched to KDE. So I wasn't implying that it sucks
[04:40] <realist> auxi: I realise that.
[04:40] <auxi> realist, good :P
[04:40] <realist> auxi: Do you prefer KDE, rather than Gnome?
[04:40] <auxi> realist, definatly
[04:40] <dockane> is there a way to get managed windows in gnome?
[04:41] <realist> I gave up on KDE, when I tried it on Debian/Woody
[04:41] <azureal> btw, do you guys use kde just for its k3b?
[04:41] <dockane> azureal: nope
[04:41] <realist> Played with it for about 30sec on FC4 once recently
[04:41] <auxi> realist, Gnome feels like it was trying to be heavey and full featured, but really just felt old, and featureless. I don't mind lite WMs, I love flux, it's just KDE feels like it really went head on with a more complete, modern desktop enviroment
[04:41] <dockane> azureal: i am burning with nautilis / cdrecord
[04:42] <azureal> dockane, ah, have you ever successfully burned vcd's ;)
[04:42] <dockane> azureal: nope, never hat to, yet
[04:42] <realist> auxi: is this comparing both KDE/Gnome on Dapper?
[04:42] <dockane> s/hat/had
[04:42] <auxi> realist, yes
[04:43] <auxi> realist, Don't you feel KDE is more complete ?
[04:43] <azureal> dockane, i lost two good cds when i attempted to burn vcds with cdrecord...
[04:43] <realist> I haven't tried it since Debian/Woody
[04:43] <realist> Might give it a test run next week.
[04:43] <auxi> realist, Consider that it has a decent set of software, which is all consistant, so all the menus feel the same, and the layouts are all the same, so it's much easyer to get used to things
[04:43] <realist> I'd always steered clear of KDE for preformance reasons, always felt a bit bloated and sloow
[04:44] <erUSUL> azureal: use cdrdao to burn the bin/cue that you obtain from vcdimager for example
[04:44] <realist> auxi: I'll agree on that point... it has better uniformity
[04:44] <realist> It's probably come a long way too, since I last tried it (years ago now)
[04:44] <auxi> realist, I know what you mean about the slowness, But since i started using it, aftero nly testing it before, It seemed to run faster than I remembered
[04:44] <azureal> erUSUL, isnt cdrdao for audio?
[04:45] <realist> Not to mention, I'd tested it on a P3 500MHz laptop
[04:45] <auxi> realist, It seems faster than Gnome though, if i use all the KDE based software
[04:45] <bruceh> ubuntu or my box keeps crashing everytime I get to the partitioning part
[04:45] <bruceh> freaking annoying
[04:45] <realist> How does GTK based software perform under KDE?
[04:45] <richiefrich> realist just like any other
[04:45] <erUSUL> azureal: i used the combination to succesfull burn a vcd (from a guide i read i'm not that smart) ;)
[04:46] <auxi> realist, Pretty well, i'm using GTK2 software and GTK software atm, aswell as the KDE software
[04:46] <richiefrich> gtk is gtk and qt is qt..
[04:46] <richiefrich> as long as u have the libs
[04:46] <richiefrich> they will load
[04:46] <janbanan> How does the latest ubuntu work with ATI graphics?
[04:46] <realist> richiefrich: performance will/can vary though
[04:46] <richiefrich> realist not true
[04:47] <realist> janbanan: I've had issues with the 3rd party propriatry drivers
[04:47] <J_P> hi all
[04:47] <realist> janbanan: otherwise fine, using open source drivers
[04:47] <richiefrich> janbanan what ver of the driver and what X?
[04:47] <richiefrich> janbanan are u going to use the X 7.1 ?
[04:48] <Nd__> Anybody know which package to get the 'strings' command from?
[04:48] <richiefrich> or u going to use X 7.0
[04:48] <realist> Nd__: apt-file search strings
[04:48] <azureal> erUSUL, are you saying you used cdrdao to burn a video?
[04:48] <janbanan> used ubuntu almost a year ago and and the drivers then were shitty
[04:48] <erUSUL> Nd__: binutils?? better install build-essential
[04:48] <richiefrich> Nd__ binutils
[04:48] <erUSUL> !b-e > Nd__
[04:48] <realist> janbanan: like I said, the propriatry ATI drivers seem flakey
[04:49] <bruceh> can anyone explain this question?
[04:49] <bruceh> what's with the green text on the top when u install Ubuntu?
[04:49] <richiefrich> thge ATi drivers are fine
[04:49] <Nd__> Hoorah! Thanks :)
[04:49] <Ubuntu> I'm afraid I've done something terrible. I am 99% noob! I had to reinstall Ubuntu so all I did was reinstall it again, now I have no disk space left (3 partitions I think, Ubuntu, my old Ubuntu, and my Windows) and I can't even log in (no memory left to write authorization file)!
[04:49] <richiefrich> its the user that needs to set them up right
[04:49] <erUSUL> azureal: with vcdimager i created a vcd (*.bin + *.cue) from a *.mpg then i used cdrao to burn the *.bin/*.cue
[04:50] <azureal> erUSUL omg will you just tell me whether it was audio or video?
[04:50] <Jman8888> I still cant burn a dvd...
[04:50] <janbanan> I was not able to use the transparent windows eye-candy ;(
[04:50] <azureal> erUSUL you keep avoiding the question, so i have to keep asking it again
[04:50] <richiefrich> Ubuntu i think u need  remove the old
[04:50] <bruceh> maybe rephrase the question?
[04:50] <realist> richiefrich: depends which drivers.
[04:50] <Ubuntu> richiefrich, any idea how I do that?
[04:51] <erUSUL> azureal: video (i've said in the previus post that  i used a mpg as source of the process)
[04:51] <richiefrich> realist no
[04:51] <realist> I've had no issues with either 'ati' or 'radeon'
[04:51] <richiefrich> fglrx
[04:51] <Ych_> is there a way to kill a program from terminal?
[04:51] <richiefrich> works great
[04:51] <realist> However... running 'fglrx'... can cause stability issues on some cards
[04:51] <auxi> Ych_, "kill <program ID>"
[04:51] <richiefrich> Ubuntu boot to a liveCD since u cant login
[04:52] <Ych_> how do i find the ID?
[04:52] <bruceh> how do u find the pid>?
[04:52] <richiefrich> and remove it
[04:52] <erUSUL> azureal: i've said and i cite ".... from a *.mpg* ..."
[04:52] <realist> bruceh: man ps
[04:52] <bruceh> ych jinx u owe me soda
[04:52] <richiefrich> Ych_ bruceh  ps -A | less
[04:52] <azureal> erUSUL oh, lol... since i didnt see neither "audio" nor "video" i quickly glanced past .mpg =)
[04:52] <Ych_> lol owe me a beer
[04:52] <Ubuntu> richiefrich, how do I remove the old partition? x(
[04:52] <dockane> bruceh: man pidof
[04:52] <garminar> use pgrep $name to find the pid
[04:52] <bruceh> too early for beer
[04:52] <richiefrich> Ubuntu just fdisk it
[04:52] <bruceh> so can use man ps/pidof
[04:52] <dockane> Ych_: man pidof
[04:53] <Ubuntu> richiefrich, what is fdisk? ::(
[04:53] <azureal> erUSUL, ok, that's interesting...considering the program's primary purpose is audio
[04:53] <bruceh> msdos fdisk?
[04:53] <richiefrich> Ubuntu thats the partition maker
[04:53] <richiefrich> Ubuntu or ppl like cfdisk
[04:53] <zsh> !fdisk
[04:53] <Ubuntu> richiefrich, from the liveCD or something else?
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <Ych_> bruceh, its 5pm here....
[04:54] <Ych_> :D
[04:54] <auxi> richiefrich, dammit, I was just about to say cfdisk
[04:54] <richiefrich> Ubuntu  liveCD
[04:54] <bruceh> 11 am here in Maryland USA
[04:54] <richiefrich> auxi :;p
[04:54] <erUSUL> azureal: the progrma primary purpose *is* to burn cd-r in dao mode (hence the name cdrdao= cd-r + dao)
[04:54] <Ubuntu> richiefrich, and what do I click when I boot the liveCD?
[04:54] <Ubuntu> Install?
[04:54] <amikron> hi all
[04:54] <erUSUL> azureal: dao = disk at once
[04:54] <richiefrich> click!?!?!
[04:54] <jordanau> anybody here have a good gtkpod string to get all music onto hardrive and well organized?
[04:54] <Ych_> i know, im from there :-D
[04:54] <richiefrich> omg man
[04:55] <richiefrich> windows -->
[04:55] <Ych_> but i get beer earlier when im in europe :D
[04:55] <igge> is there a unix command that can take everything from standard input and send to standard output and append to each line a timestamp?
[04:55] <igge> i'm thinking tee or tail would have some flag for that but can't find it
[04:56] <Thunderpants> when i update, the process sticks on 'setting up capplets-data', what is capplets?
[04:56] <Ubuntu> richiefrich, how do I run fdisk? From the liveCD?
[04:57] <jordanau> igge, you mean you want to log all of your actions in a text file?
[04:57] <bruceh> isn't it auto?
[04:57] <jordanau> or you just want ourpot to go to a text file?
[04:57] <bruceh> don't u get the option to manually change or even resize a partition?
[04:57] <jordanau> output*
[04:57] <bruceh> or totally erase it
[04:57] <dan__> quit
[04:57] <dan__> exit
[04:57] <jordanau> third times a charm :)
[04:58] <Ych> well, killing x worked better than killing the program :D
[04:58] <amikron> where can i find the list of all console commands (6.06) (i am newbie) ?
[04:59] <Kyral_Laptop> amikron: ALL the Console commands?
[04:59] <Ubuntu> How can I delete my old Ubuntu partition?
[04:59] <Kyral_Laptop> Dude I don't think ANYONE knows ALL the commands
[04:59] <Kyral_Laptop> amikron: look on Ubuntuforums for my Terminal For Beginners thread
[04:59] <amikron> thx
[04:59] <Kyral_Laptop> Actually gimme a sec and I'll link directly
[05:00] <amikron> nice
[05:00] <amikron> that would be very nice :)
[05:00] <igge> jordanau: hm sort of...
[05:00] <igge> will try to explain
[05:00] <JhonnyB> hi all
[05:00] <Kyral_Laptop> amikron: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73885
[05:00] <HeathenDan> when synaptic installs a package, does it keep the package after downloading it? or does it delete it afterwards?
[05:01] <Kyral_Laptop> HeathenDan: it keeps it in the cache
[05:01] <JhonnyB> i need help
[05:01] <igge> jordanau: i have a command that runs and at various times prints out lines to standard out.. I would like to see a timestamp for each line when it was printed
[05:01] <Kyral_Laptop> HeathenDan: you can clear the cache by running "sudo apt-get clean"
[05:01] <HeathenDan> where can i see this cache?
[05:01] <JhonnyB> i dl ubuntu cd
[05:01] <Kyral_Laptop> HeathenDan: I THINK its in /var/apt/cache
[05:01] <richiefrich> Ubuntu open a terminal
[05:01] <HeathenDan> i may need to copy some of them for my friend
[05:01] <igge> jordanau: i'm thinking there should be some nifty little command line program for that
[05:02] <igge> that I can pipe through
[05:02] <Ubuntu> richiefrich, open a terminal...?
[05:02] <JhonnyB> on one systen it boots ok, but the system i want to run on, it hangs after first ubuntu main menu
[05:02] <Ubuntu> and?
[05:02] <richiefrich> Ubuntu i dont know your partitions .. but as an example --> fdisk /dev/sda
[05:03] <ballchalk> hello
[05:03] <ballchalk> has anyone gotten itunes to work through wine?
[05:04] <HeathenDan> hmm, what's the package name for the multimedia codecs?
[05:04] <ballchalk> libarts-extra or something from yesterda can't remember
[05:05] <HeathenDan> my friend has xubuntu and he doesn't have internet connection. i want to help him install codecs for playing mp3s and divx movies
[05:06] <mlehrer> w32codecs
[05:06] <PingunZ> hey, how can I edit .so files ?
[05:06] <HeathenDan> is that one package? if so, then that's a big help
[05:06] <Kyral_Laptop> HeathenDan: download the package with sudo apt-get -d w32codecs (I think -d is the right option)
[05:06] <HeathenDan> ok lemme try that
[05:06] <Kyral_Laptop> PingunZ: You don't, they are binaries
[05:06] <mlehrer> there may be other dependencies, i can't remember
[05:06] <dr_willis_> PingunZ,  since those are binary libraries - normally you dont.
[05:07] <mlehrer> that is the important one
[05:07] <Kyral_Laptop> PingunZ: you'd have to edit the sourcecode for the libraries
[05:07] <mlehrer> unless you're really good with a hex editor
[05:07] <jordanau> igge, sounds like you need a bash script try http://linuxcommand.org/lts0010.php
[05:07] <richiefrich> Ubuntu i think your best bet.. is to reinstall del all the ubuntu stuff when u reinstall and let it partition for u
[05:07] <Jimmey> I've got updates listed that aren't authenticated - How dangerous are they/could they potentially be?
[05:08] <Jimmey> Bear in mind, one of them's "gnome-terminal"
[05:08] <Kyral_Laptop> Jimmey: pastebin your sources.list
[05:08] <Jimmey> Okay
[05:08] <Ubuntu> richiefrich, sounds good. How do I delete it all?
[05:08] <Kyral_Laptop> Jimmey: if they are just ubuntu.com ones they you can ignore it
[05:08] <igge> jordanau: mm... maybe i can ise awk
[05:08] <vicscandl> !fonts > vicscandl
[05:08] <PingunZ> Kyral_Laptop, I want to edit the splash of xubuntu ( the moving mice ) but its .so , what can I do ?
[05:08] <PingunZ> sudo apt-get source xubuntu-desktop ?
[05:08] <Kyral_Laptop> PingunZ: go to xfce-look.org and download a new one :P
[05:08] <bruceh> is open suse good/
[05:09] <bruceh> just heard about it
[05:09] <Jimmey> Kyral_Laptop, one of them's a Compiz repo.
[05:09] <Kyral_Laptop> bruceh: I disliked it, but YaST in an of itself is amazing
[05:09] <bruceh> yast?
[05:09] <bruceh> what is that
[05:09] <Kyral_Laptop> Jimmey: ehh I'd say take care on the Compiz one, but the ubuntu.com ones are good
[05:09] <richiefrich> Ubuntu well in the install.. on the partition section.. wipe it all.. if u still want windows.. make sure u dont del that .. so uncheck that
[05:09] <Kyral_Laptop> Jimmey: just means you don't have the GPG Key of the repos in your keyring
[05:09] <quiet> bruceh, suse is a great distro.
[05:10] <Kyral_Laptop> bruceh: YaST (Yet Another System Tool)
[05:10] <harisund> Good morning! How's everyone today?
[05:10] <Ubuntu> richiefrich, k, when installing I've never had a view of all the partitions, how do I do that?
[05:10] <Kyral_Laptop> SuSE's super GUI control center
[05:10] <Kyral_Laptop> of DOOM!
[05:10] <Kyral_Laptop> :P
[05:10] <quiet> granted, it's gone largely open-source now... but it was the first commercially supported desktop linux.
[05:10] <quiet> 'Yet Another Setup Tool'
[05:10] <PingunZ> Kyral_Laptop, they all are down, gnome-look, kde-look, xfce-look ...
[05:10] <Kyral_Laptop> (You notice you make everything cooler by adding "Of DOOM!" to it) :D
[05:10] <Kyral_Laptop> PingunZ: Then I dunno
[05:10] <Kyral_Laptop> But overall I found OpenSuSE slow
[05:10] <pp> hi folks, anyone here use maconlinux?
[05:11] <bruceh> u sound lord of the ring ish
[05:11] <PingunZ> yeah, opensuse is very slow
[05:11] <thx4help> hi, i'm using ubuntu.  Right now I have to manually type 'modprobe fuse' to start fuse, can this be automated at startup?
[05:11] <PingunZ> its cause the kernel is to big, you'll need to recompile one.
[05:11] <Kyral_Laptop> thx4help: add it to /etc/modiles
[05:11] <Kyral_Laptop> err
[05:11] <richiefrich> Ubuntu i can picture that part.. maybe someone else might  know.. been way to long since i installed..    i think u can  select view partition
[05:11] <Kyral_Laptop> s/modiles/modules
[05:11] <harisund> thx4help: echo fuse | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[05:11] <bobovski> hi all, I have a question that is marginally ubuntu, but thought I'd ask anyway. Just got married and want to create a thumbnail gallery of pictures. I have apache2 installed. can anyone recommend an easy to use gallery generator?
[05:11] <Ubuntu> k thanks
[05:11] <pp> I've got it working but it defaults to full screen mode and i want to start it in window
[05:12] <Levi_> is anybody here familiar with sound issues for dapper drake?
[05:12] <quiet> Levi_, such as?
[05:12] <Kyral_Laptop> bobovski: Uhh not automated, but I know Bluefish can make thumbnails
[05:12] <bruceh> question
[05:12] <bruceh> i'm at partitioning again
[05:12] <bruceh> i told it to wipe my hd
[05:12] <mcphail> Can someone explain to me why my fonts have been uglified since the last apt-get upgrade?
[05:12] <HeathenDan> quiet would be the last person to answer that! :p
[05:12] <Kyral_Laptop> bruceh: you don't have to ask to ask a question just ask it :P
[05:12] <bruceh> how long will it take to wipe 40 gigs?
[05:12] <Radiance`> Hello
[05:12] <Radiance`> secret
[05:12] <Levi_> basicall, my sound card isn't detected. i get gstreamer and gtotem issues
[05:12] <harisund> bobovski: first, congrats! second, you can look for stuff like 'gallery' or phpAutoGallery that creates gallery for you. You have installed apache2 with php support I guess?
[05:12] <Kyral_Laptop> bruceh: uhh 2 secs top?
[05:12] <bruceh> I raise my hand in clas
[05:12] <Seveas> mcphail, because you use packages from quinsstorm
[05:12] <garminar> bobovski, try Gallery: http://gallery.menalto.com/
[05:12] <bruceh> been 1 min
[05:12] <Kyral_Laptop> if that?
[05:12] <quiet> the only issue i have is that master doesn't work... i have to use the headphone volume to control master volume, which is retarded... but whatever.
[05:12] <bruceh> nd couting
[05:13] <bruceh> and counting*
[05:13] <bruceh> stuck at 0
[05:13] <bart416_> Uhm, anybody any clue if ubuntu supports the pcmcia controller of an IBM Thinkpad 760 EL ?
[05:13] <quiet> bruceh, what?
[05:13] <Kyral_Laptop> bruceh: Is this SuSE?
[05:13] <bruceh> no ubuntu
[05:13] <bobovski> harisund: yeah, I think I have php support. How may I check (thanks for the congrats)
[05:13] <harisund> If anybody here dual boots Ubuntu i386 and AMD64, can they tell me which partitions can be shared? I am thinking the /boot could be.
[05:13] <bobovski> garminar: thanks, let me take a look
[05:13] <harisund> bobovski: are you familiar with the command line?
[05:13] <quiet> Kyral_Laptop, stop misspelling SuSE
[05:13] <quiet> it's SUSE
[05:13] <Kyral_Laptop> bruceh: the installer might be applying a FS and doing a badblocks check at the same time
[05:13] <bobovski> harisund: yep
[05:13] <quiet> was SuSE... years ago.
[05:13] <Kyral_Laptop> bruceh: badblocks checking takes a while
[05:13] <bart416_> harisund, uhm the tmeporary directory
[05:13] <manmadha> can any one tell where the book marks are stored in mozilla( in text format...?)?
[05:13] <bruceh> what behavior should I see on my desktop ?
[05:13] <Seveas> harisund, sharing /boot would save you 50MB and is not really worth the hassle
[05:13] <bart416_> and maybe home
[05:13] <Levi_> I don't know a think about linux. I'm trying to get my sound working and it's making me pull my hair out
[05:13] <thx4help> thanks for your help
[05:14] <Seveas> harisund, sharing anything apart from /home is discouraged
[05:14] <harisund> bobovski: awesome. All you need to do on the command line is 'sudo apt-get install apache2 php5'
[05:14] <quiet> Levi_, alsamixer says what?
[05:14] <bart416_> and maybe the directory with packages
[05:14] <JhonnyB> guyz, my pc hangsup if i select start ubuntu on the first startup ubuntu menu
[05:14] <JhonnyB> can someone help
[05:14] <Levi_> see, I'm completely new to this. I don't know what you're asking
[05:14] <Kyral_Laptop> Levi_: do you have two soundcards
[05:14] <bobovski> harisund: ah, great. libs are installing now for php. thanks!
[05:14] <Levi_> no
[05:14] <quiet> Levi_, open a terminal and type 'alsamixer' and hit enter
[05:14] <harisund> Seveas I see. Well, here's my problem. I installed i386 and everythin was fine. I installed AMD64, and it saw my i386 fine too. Now when I upgraded my i386 kernel to k7, the AM64's menu.lst didn't see it of course.
[05:14] <Kyral_Laptop> Levi_: or onboard sound + soundcard?
[05:14] <mcphail> Seveas: is the "deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz dapper main" the culprit?
[05:15] <Levi_> one onboard Intel
[05:15] <Kyral_Laptop> hmm...
[05:15] <excitatory> question.. i just did a fresh install on a second machine..i'm attempting to install openssh, but it's not working.  The error appears to be something with locking the passwd file.  Here is the dpkg output: http://subfluous.net/dpkg-output.txt
[05:15] <manmadha> can any one tell where the book marks are stored in mozilla( in text format...?)?
[05:15] <Kyral_Laptop> !alsa
[05:15] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:15] <Seveas> mcphail, yes -- the idiot also has updated fontconfig vte and whatnot packages in the same repo
[05:15] <Kyral_Laptop> manmadha: someplace in ~/.mozilla
[05:15] <Seveas> mcphail, which breaks things for quite a few people already
[05:15] <harisund> bobovski: once you are done wth that you will have a webserver running. You could then put your pictures in the web server's root directory. You are familiar with that?
[05:15] <Levi_> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[05:15] <Kyral_Laptop> manmadha: its in HTML format, but thats close enough
[05:15] <Ych> whats the command for playing a file with mplayer in the console?
[05:15] <mcphail> Seveas: hmm, nice
[05:15] <ballchalk> mlehrer yea i installed that w32 codecs but do you know of any more dependencies or if they should be installed in any order? i'm sure i have alot of packages installed
[05:15] <Kyral_Laptop> Ych: I'd think "mplayer <file>"
[05:16] <Kyral_Laptop> Ych: man mplayer :P
[05:16] <Ych> thanks
[05:16] <excitatory> manmadha: they're in your profile, in a file called bookmarks.html.  you can also export them from firefox to anywhere you'd like.
[05:16] <pp> Is there a ubuntu channel for powerpc?
[05:16] <mcphail> Seveas: any workaround?
[05:16] <harisund> manmadha: easiest way would be to ask Firefox to export its bookmarks somewhere. it will be in html format, but you can use sed or seomething to strip the <> tags.
[05:16] <Ych> your first guess was right, it was my first guess too
[05:16] <bobovski> harisund: yes. everything goes in /var/www right?
[05:16] <Ych> but i asked before trying
[05:16] <Seveas> mcphail, downgrade fontconfig
[05:16] <Ych> :D
[05:16] <Kyral_Laptop> manmadha: and if you really want to strip off the html, I have a sed command laying around someplace
[05:16] <bruceh> my ubuntu install is still stuck in "installing system" at zero
[05:16] <Kyral_Laptop> (Actually gleaned it from a newsgroup :P)
[05:17] <harisund> bobovski: yes. You will have to copy everything using sudo, (or change the write permissions for /var/www), and make sure it is readable by everyone else. Have you decided on what application you are going to use for picture albums?
[05:17] <manmadha> Kyral_Laptop, ok..
[05:17] <bobovski> harisund: I'm looking at the gallery app that was posted above
[05:17] <ro_claus> hello guys. Anyone knows if ekiga is interoperable with wengophone . (could i use voice and video between this apps?)
[05:18] <harisund> bobovski that's a good idea. You might however had to add the URL rewrite capability to apache2. Do that by executing 'sudo a2enmod rewrite'
[05:18] <bobovski> harisund: actually, what chmod do I use to change the write permissions so I can just drag and drop?
[05:19] <harisund> bobovski if you want to drag and drop as, say user bobovski you would do 'sudo chown -R bobovski:bobovski' so that it becomes your own directory. You then don't need to worry about permissions.
[05:19] <Kyral_Laptop> bobovski: I'd just make a "www-users" group, change the ownership on /var/www (and its subdirs) to that group, and whatever users you want to access the dir just add to the group
[05:19] <Levi_> When I go to my volume control on the taskbar, it has an "X" beside it, indicating no sound. When I double click on it, this is what pops up: The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.
[05:19] <squirrelpimp> hi
[05:19] <squirrelpimp> azureus is just not closing it's socket...
[05:20] <squirrelpimp> i raised nofile to 8192, now i have 8192 open files of which ~30 are files in the fs and the rest is sockets
[05:20] <bobovski> ok, rewrite enabled
[05:20] <squirrelpimp> they just don't get closed
[05:20] <bobovski> let me make a group
[05:20] <squirrelpimp> known issue?
[05:20] <squirrelpimp> help would be great, this doesn't seem to be my day
[05:20] <squirrelpimp> :(
[05:20] <Linuturk_code> squirrelpimp, problems with azureus?
[05:20] <harisund> bobovski: if you want to change the group ownership you have to do chgrp I think.
[05:21] <squirrelpimp> Linuturk_code: yes
[05:21] <nopcode> hm
[05:21] <nopcode> how important is it to upgrade to 6.06?
[05:21] <Josh___> have a problem, i need to install drivers for my new vid card. its a nvidia, my old one is ati and i get a message about gdm disabled. anyone have a website that will explain to me how i need to do it?
[05:21] <JhonnyB> hello
[05:21] <nopcode> when running 5.10
[05:21] <cidco> anyone know how i can find out what blocksize i partioned a drive with ?
[05:21] <cidco> its driving me crazy, it should be something simple
[05:21] <Josh___> probably either 1024 or 512 cidco
[05:21] <Linuturk_code> squirrelpimp, I loved azureus when I was using windows, but it runs horrid on ubuntu. I recommend a torrent client called Transmission. do a quick search of the forums for install instructions. It runs 20 times better than azureus
[05:21] <Josh___> more likely 512
[05:22] <cidco> Josh___:  yea im just wondering what the command is to list it, i want to make sure i have this RAID array setup properly
[05:22] <Linuturk_code> nopcode, a lot of my hardware worked out of the box with 6.06, where it didn't in 5.10
[05:22] <Josh___> anyone know where i can get intrustions to install nvidia drivers?
[05:22] <y3it221_klce> can anyone tell me how to install XGL for intel(r)82845g/gl/ge/pe/gv
[05:22] <squirrelpimp> Linuturk_code: thx
[05:23] <Josh___> no idea cidco, lemme look
[05:23] <nopcode> Linuturk_code: thats not the issue, but i keep trying to upgrade my server to 6.06 and it never works (doesnt boot)
[05:23] <cidco> k, thanks
[05:23] <Kyral_Laptop> !nvidia
[05:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:23] <Linuturk_code> nopcode, try a fresh install?
[05:23] <nopcode> Linuturk_code: ...
[05:23] <nopcode> Linuturk_code: i cant, the server isnt here
[05:23] <haasteem> hi, upgraded to dapper from breezy last night and something went wrong. right at the end it gave an error and i had to abort. as it turns out, during booting, the "loading hardware drivers" and "PCMCIA services" fail, but the boot atill continues after that. it looks like this error is now only affecting my sound. how can i solve this problem?
[05:23] <Josh___> stat -f maybe?
[05:24] <Josh___> try that cidco, that should work
[05:24] <Linuturk_code> nopcode, try #ubuntu-server, they might be able to help you better. I don't have a clue about upgrading
[05:24] <cidco> stat -f /devsdb ?
[05:24] <Josh___> yep
[05:24] <Linuturk_code> o, nvm, don't nopcode, that's a dev channel now
[05:25] <Linuturk_code> last time I was here, it was support :-( nopcode
[05:25] <bobovski> DO I want to use Gallery 1 or 2?
[05:25] <dr_willis_> ive always played it safe and reinsdtlled.. not upgraded. :()
[05:25] <manopulus> hello, have questions with libapache2-mod-perl2. i did apt-get install. what after? how i can enable perl programs in apache2.conf or in sites-enabled? any howto/faq related to ubuntu?
[05:25] <exxs> To be, or not to be; http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237225
[05:26] <botch> hey #ubuntu
[05:26] <botch> just switching over form #debian
[05:27] <botch> you think i could switch not only the irc-channel but also my apt source repos from debian to ubuntu??
[05:29] <botch> ok: other way around: you ever switched _successfully_ a running system from debian to ubuntu??
[05:29] <sethk> botch, you mean without reinstallihng?  no
[05:29] <bobovski> botch I think you just edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:29] <virogenesis> botch, expect breakages if you do that
[05:29] <sethk> botch, not really practical
[05:29] <longwave> yeah, it may work to some extent, but it is not a supported upgrade path, and expect things to not work properly
[05:29] <virogenesis> botch,  back up and install ;)
[05:30] <fredl> so... could anybody recommend a graphics card they consider to be 1) best price/performance 2) most mature native Xorg driver ?
[05:30] <longwave> that's why we keep /home on separate partitions, right? ;)
[05:30] <fredl> coz this ATI stuff is starting to unnerve me.
[05:31] <CarinArr> fredl, get a new-ish nvidia geforce card
[05:31] <catadoxas> hey when im runnign modprobe 2200 i get a "WARNING: Error inserting ieee80211_crypt (/lib/modules/2.6.17.8/net/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt.ko): Invalid module format
[05:31] <catadoxas> "
[05:31] <catadoxas> why could that be
[05:31] <CarinArr> if you're looking for good price for the performance don't go for the absolutely newest ones
[05:31] <snoops> well nvidia drivers are very easy to setup..but not native - by which you mean opensource and free?
[05:31] <diesel> Why would glxgears run faster running as root user versus normal user?
[05:31] <gary[ubuntu] > the 7800 GTs are cheap for the performance right now
[05:31] <fredl> snoops - indeed, I'd prefer opensource
[05:31] <tobarello> hem hi
[05:31] <fredl> so that would disqualify ATI.
[05:32] <tobarello> i'm a newbie
[05:32] <fredl> since I want to use hardware 3D acceleration
[05:32] <virogenesis> fredl, you won't get a decent gfxs card with opensource drivers
[05:32] <mlehrer> fredl: what 3d stuff are you going to do?
[05:32] <virogenesis> mind you
[05:33] <mlehrer> in my limited experience, intel has the best native 3d support
[05:33] <tobarello> and i'm looking for help
[05:33] <virogenesis> whats that ati card with opensource drivers/
[05:33] <fredl> mlehrer - nothing special, nothing outrageous, I would like to at least play tuxracer at a decent speed, google world, etc.
[05:33] <mlehrer> but they don't allow modeline customization and have XVideo problems
[05:33] <CarinArr> fredl, the nvidia drivers aren't opensource either.. as virogenesis says if you want a half decent card, you can't really find one with opensource drivers
[05:33] <mlehrer> i'd look at intel, i had an 845G that worked well with tuxracer, xscreensaver
[05:33] <mlehrer> just don't try warcraft
[05:34] <CarinArr> cool
[05:34] <CarinArr> er wrong window
[05:34] <tobarello> hello
[05:34] <ld50> hi, sometimes when boot ubuntu i get a very small resolution (640x480) why? it's like random... and its configured for 1024x768
[05:34] <virogenesis> nvidia don't work with aiglx remember currently
[05:34] <tobarello> i need help
[05:34] <snoops> the best card you're gonna get, which has opensource drivers (mesa?) and I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure is a radeon 9250?
[05:34] <fredl> CarinArr - hmm...
[05:34] <pp> snoops are nvidia not open source?
[05:35] <connyosis> pp: nope
[05:35] <TisMe> I dont understand why it makes a difference (to most people) if their drivers are open source or binary only, aslong as there are drivers.
[05:35] <fredl> snoops, but that's an ATI card, right? don't you need fglrx for that?
[05:35] <snoops> nope
[05:35] <haasteem> hi, upgraded to dapper from breezy last night and something went wrong. right at the end it gave an error and i had to abort. as it turns out, during booting, the "loading hardware drivers" and "PCMCIA services" fail, but the boot atill continues after that. it looks like this error is now only affecting my sound. how can i solve this problem?
[05:35] <fredl> TisMe - because binary drivers tend to break with upgrades.
[05:35] <looktj> what program can i use to host an irc server on my boxc
[05:35] <snoops> fredl nah, apparently that card is so old, there is an opensource alternate written by some clever guys
[05:35] <looktj> box*
[05:35] <fredl> TisMe - which is what happened to me with my ATI X700 Pro board.
[05:35] <erUSUL> haasteem: have you completed the upgrade?
[05:35] <pp> TisMe there aren't many binary drivers for ppc
[05:35] <sethk> haasteem, sounds like a kernel configuration issue
[05:35] <snoops> but even then.. hardly worth it
[05:35] <CarinArr> virogenesis, aiglx?
[05:35] <Ranbee> hi, does anyone know the username and password for the livecd, please
[05:36] <pp> install
[05:36] <sethk> fredl, true, but a someone said, you have to live with what exists
[05:36] <josh___> the intrustions im looking at are telling me i need to get a linux-restricted-module... why?
[05:36] <sethk> fredl, or concede that linux is not the right environment for gamers
[05:36] <TisMe> pp: I know that im using ppc at the moment.
[05:36] <tobarello> i have dapper on my pc nad i'm a complete newbie with linux os...i'm trying to get my webcam working
[05:36] <CarinArr> josh___, what are you trying to install?
[05:36] <haasteem> erUSUL: no, it kicked me out after the error occurred
[05:36] <looktj> what program can i use to host an irc server on my ubuntu box?
[05:36] <sethk> josh___, because you need it to run some software?
[05:36] <haasteem> sethk: how do i solve it?
[05:36] <fredl> sethk - I know, but I feel MY ATI card is kind of a weird one that's not well tested on driver releases.
[05:36] <tobarello> i'm also new with irc
[05:36] <TisMe> But i still maintain that theres not many people that will be modifying drivers.
[05:36] <virogenesis> CarinArr, its seen as better thing than xgl
[05:36] <josh___> nvidia drivers... my old card was ati, just got new nvidia... cant get gdm to display right
[05:36] <pp> Tisme do you have a nvidia graphics card?
[05:36] <TisMe> looktj: unreal IRCD
[05:37] <dr_willis_> looktj,  thers dozens if irc daemons out.   check freshmeat.net to see what ones ya like
[05:37] <sethk> haasteem, someone asked whether the upgrade completed.  Did it?
[05:37] <Apeiron> hey all, a little question, i cant install realplayer (depends on xlib, but xlib isnt installable) is that a known bug?
[05:37] <cvaleraarri> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:37] <TisMe> pp: no.
[05:37] <CarinArr> virogenesis, does anyone actually use it in practice tho?
[05:37] <haasteem> sethk: nope, it kicked me out
[05:37] <erUSUL> haasteem: try 'sudo apt-get update &&  sudo apt-get upgrade' to complete the upgrade
[05:37] <pp> Tisme have you ever tried maconlinux? pretty cool, eh?
[05:37] <CarinArr> i mean i've messed about with xgl but can't really see a point in using it for day to day work
[05:37] <sethk> haasteem, I'd start by trying it again, see if it will complete
[05:37] <snoops> fredl most ati users feel that way..
[05:37] <fredl> so, so far I wrote down 7800GT, 845G, Radeon 9250....
[05:38] <haasteem> erUSUL: ok
[05:38] <sethk> haasteem, because I'd be concerned about what else might be messed up that you don't know about yet.
[05:38] <virogenesis> well aiglx can be turnt off and well metacity is getting some eye candy
[05:38] <snoops> CarinArr oh I definitely can! My productivity has increased a lot since I started to do a lot of work while using it
[05:38] <fredl> not Radeon 9600??
[05:38] <CarinArr> fredl, if you want a decent card, don't get the intel. if you want a card that works okay in linux, get one that loads of people are using and preferrably an nvidia card cause their support is a lot better
[05:38] <haasteem> sethk: right, it was really at the end of it... it said that something went wrong during setting up firestarter (error 3, i believe)
[05:38] <TisMe> I didn't think the 7800GT had open source drivers...
[05:39] <gabi> hola
[05:39] <CarinArr> fredl, depending on what you're wanting to do i wouldn't necessarily advise you to get the 7800gt..
[05:39] <epitaf> ahem.. a person here trieX to help me binX a commanX to winXows-button-X. X in my sentence means the key that I now cannot write, namely the last letter of the man in the sky, GOX, get what key I mean? Can someone please help me remove this binX?
[05:39] <fredl> CarinArr - well that's kinda why I ask. What nvidia card do loads of *ubuntu* users use?
[05:39] <josh___> how do i get this thing working?!
[05:39] <bobovski> I am having problems setting up gallery now, when I pointfirefox to the php page to configure the ap-p, It doesn't load as html or anything...just wants to download it
[05:39] <josh___> i followed the directions but it didn't work
[05:39] <CarinArr> tisme, er.. i don't think he was actually looking for opensource drivers from the start, he just wanted something that's "natively supported", i'm assuming he's wanting something that's easy to install and sort of hassle free
[05:39] <Ych> fredl, the most common nvidia card i see is a 6600GT
[05:39] <josh___> it tells me to manually config xorg.conf
[05:39] <Ych> i hae on also
[05:39] <bobovski> ah, hold on
[05:39] <Ych> have*
[05:40] <TisMe> CarinArr: Fair point.
[05:40] <snoops> CarinArr for instance, it's the little things which make me far more productive.. being able put another window, right click, set to on top, then change the transparency so I can compare two documents together on the one screen.. so I don't keep having to look back and forth between multiple screens or windows.
[05:40] <josh___> virogenesis: how did you get that to display?! thats what i have
[05:40] <Ych> however thats a bit older
[05:40] <fredl> oops, dinner time. I'll get back to this and also add the 6600GT to my list to research
[05:40] <Ych> 7600GT seems popular
[05:40] <snoops> fredl I'm using a 7900gt.. absolutely loving it
[05:40] <phaedrus44> my nvidia seems hassle free
[05:40] <Ych> for new builds
[05:40] <Ych> so right now the 3 main choices are 7300GT, 7600GT and 7900
[05:40] <CarinArr> fredl, well most sort of midrange nvidia cards have excellent support in linux.. go for any sort of midway geforce card and you should be okay
[05:40] <pp> phaedrus44: what card do you have and what driver do you use?
[05:40] <Ych> thats the newest gen
[05:41] <fredl> okay, thanks guys!
[05:41] <tobarello> hello
[05:41] <Ych> in the order of lowest to highest end
[05:41] <Ych> np
[05:41] <tobarello> hi there
[05:41] <snoops> CarinArr then things like expose and switcher help me out tremendously in quickly finding what I'm after
[05:41] <CarinArr> ych, you don't really need the 7*** card if you're not looking to run new highend games
[05:41] <garminar> i have a 6600gt, and its good
[05:41] <tobarello> it's my first time here
[05:41] <phaedrus44> i have gforce 2 400         and i use the nv  driver ...i have used the nvidia driver before too
[05:41] <tobarello> i'm looking for help
[05:41] <Ych> true, but a 7300GT is the cheapest new card right now really
[05:41] <pp> thanks
[05:41] <CarinArr> snoops, i don't know.. i like the eyecandy, but to be honest i'd rather just use standard x
[05:41] <Ych> unless you can still find a 6200 somewhere
[05:41] <Ych> which is also good
[05:41] <CarinArr> ych, well you could still buy the 5700 in the spring
[05:42] <bobovski> ok, great php is working
[05:42] <virogenesis> josh___,  http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Install_Nvidia_driver
[05:42] <Ych> ok, i guess youre right
[05:42] <shining> use dri drivers if you don't want to run new highend games
[05:42] <CarinArr> so i would assume the 6600/6800 etc are still around
[05:42] <phaedrus44> i use nubuntu with fluxbox
[05:42] <josh___> i cant look at that?
[05:42] <Ych> 6600 yes
[05:42] <snoops> CarinArr the 7xxx cards have the advantage of far better hardware h263/4 acceleration for high def content
[05:42] <josh___> i am stuck in command-line till i can get this thing working
[05:42] <Ych> but youre better off buying the low end current gen card, than the high end last gen card
[05:42] <mlehrer> yeah if you don't know what you need, you certainly don't need a 7800, or even a 6600 really
[05:42] <FurryNemesis> did anyone find that the latest round of updates broke Synaptic? I get this error: synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory . All my libvte files are up to date apart from the dev ones which I don't need. Any ideas?
[05:42] <Ych> so 7600GS is prolly better than 6600GT
[05:43] <garminar> FurryNemesis, check the ubuntu forums
[05:43] <shining> get a radeon 8500
[05:43] <CarinArr> snoops, yeah i know, but the point i'm trying to make is that unless he's looking for a GOOD graphics card rather than an "okay" one, he might not want to pay the extra cash for the newer one
[05:43] <frying_fish> shining: that would be silly
[05:43] <Ych> radeon?
[05:43] <Ych> on linux?
[05:43] <garminar> i had the same problem earlier, theres a fix on there
[05:43] <josh___> so i need to know what i need to edit to get the gdm reenabled and set correctly
[05:43] <epitaf> hrm, anyone available to help?
[05:43] <frying_fish> ati drivers are the suck.
[05:43] <mlehrer> look in pricewatch.com
[05:43] <ballchalk> hello
[05:43] <mlehrer> for cheap cards
[05:43] <frying_fish> Ych: ignore him.
[05:43] <Ych> lol
[05:43] <virogenesis> josh___,  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings sudo nvidia-glx-config enable  should work
[05:43] <sethk> libvte.so.4 is either corrupted or missing
[05:43] <shining> linux is about opensource, you know
[05:43] <Ych> and ATI is not
[05:43] <garminar> FurryNemesis, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238668&highlight=synaptic+libvte
[05:43] <haasteem> erUSUL: that gave no result... nothing is updated or upgraded
[05:43] <sethk> FurryNemesis,    libvte.so.4 is either corrupted or missing
[05:44] <snoops> you've gotta define your budget first in my opinion, otherwise you're gonna get carried away
[05:44] <shining> there are dri drivers
[05:44] <CarinArr> unless you're working with 3d graphics and then you don't have a choice when it comes to open source or not
[05:44] <shining> only for radeon, not for nvidia cards
[05:44] <tobarello> hello
[05:44] <haasteem> sethk: i did as er USUL suggested, but no result
[05:44] <tobarello> hi ballchak
[05:44] <snoops> shining umm the nvidia cards aren't opensource
[05:44] <virogenesis> Ych, name a hardware vender that supports opensource you'll have fun trying to
[05:44] <sethk> haasteem, so it completed, but did nothing?
[05:44] <shining> snoops: that's the point
[05:44] <josh___> how do i reenable the GDM??
[05:44] <sethk> haasteem, try reinstalling the kernel.  do a force, since it thinks the install completed.
[05:44] <haasteem> sethk: that's it
[05:44] <virogenesis> startx
[05:44] <maria> hi, i have shared my music folder on a windows xp computer and can access it from my ubuntu computer, but i cant play the music off of it, i have to copy it over first, is there any way to change that?
[05:45] <frying_fish> shining: most likely this guy has pci-d and they don't do 8500 as pci-e
[05:45] <sethk> haasteem, perhaps we should force the entire upgrade
[05:45] <CarinArr> josh___, what did you do that stopped it working?
[05:45] <haasteem> sethk: what is the command for that?
[05:45] <virogenesis> or ctrl alt delete
[05:45] <frying_fish> if he is looking at a 7xxx series card.
[05:45] <ion> I wanna upgrade from breezy to lst but can't dist-upgrade doesn't work ...
[05:45] <wefwef> hey im getting error on instatll " * Id "5" respawning to fast: disabled for 5 minutes"
[05:45] <virogenesis> ctrl alt backspace i mena#
[05:45] <shining> frying_fish: I think they are some pci-e radeon working with the r300 drivers
[05:45] <josh___> carin, i put a new vid card in
[05:45] <tobarello> i can't get my cam working on dapper
[05:45] <shining> like the x300 or x600
[05:45] <haasteem> sethk: right
[05:45] <josh___> i had an ati, put the nvidia in and it stopped working
[05:46] <josh___> now i get errors when i try to restart the gdm
[05:46] <tobarello> i have a trust wb-3400t
[05:46] <haasteem> sethk: how do i force the entire upgrade?
[05:46] <frying_fish> shining: yeah, but they won't be as good, I would still go with nvidia cards for linux support
[05:46] <frying_fish> doesn't the nv driver work well enough in most cases.
[05:46] <snoops> josh___ I'd assume that's a problem with your xorg.conf trying to use the radeon drivers when you're using an nvidia card
[05:46] <virogenesis> josh___,  what are the errors/
[05:46] <zsh> maria, try running your "media program" as root
[05:46] <ion> any one who can help me ?
[05:46] <virogenesis> josh___,  what are the errors?
[05:46] <nopcode> frying_fish: why so diplomatic... "ati sux" would suffice
[05:46] <josh___> close, but i removed the ati radeon and put in nvidia
[05:46] <josh___> now it just says it dont recognize nvidia
[05:46] <tobarello> ion i'm trying to get some help as well
[05:46] <nopcode> "recognize"?
[05:47] <frying_fish> nopcode: because I currently still have an ati card, and know it can be hell (although ubuntu has made it easier) but will be going nvidia next.
[05:47] <nopcode> linux isnt supposed to "recognize"
[05:47] <shining> nopcode: ati sucks, but binary drivers suck more
[05:47] <josh___> undefined device in device at "nvidia
[05:47] <tobarello> but it looks like nobody's reading
[05:47] <dsacode> Hello! What's default Dapper GTK theme?
[05:47] <frying_fish> josh___: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:47] <frying_fish> dsacode: "Human"
[05:47] <dsacode> It looks like Clearlooks but other colors..
[05:47] <ion> tobarelle: so we're two now :)
[05:47] <nopcode> shining: dont tell me you get full 3d accel with open drivers on ati
[05:47] <tobarello> oh thank's god someone replied me!
[05:47] <shining> nopcode: what do you mean by full 3d accel?
[05:47] <erUSUL> nopcode: i do
[05:47] <grogoreo> hi
[05:47] <nopcode> full 3d acceleration
[05:47] <shining> nopcode: I get 3d accel, of course
[05:47] <frying_fish> nopcode: you can't......
[05:47] <zsh> frying_fish, nv doesnt have 3d accelaration yet...
[05:47] <nopcode> pixel shaders 3.0 etc
[05:47] <tobarello> i thought i was in some kind of...only reading mode
[05:48] <ion> tobarelle: what's your problem...
[05:48] <tobarello> i have just started with linux os
[05:48] <wefwef> please help me someone or i have to give up the install :/ i tried google and forums no answers, i get error on install " * Id "5" respawning to fast: disabled for 5 minutes"
[05:48] <maria> zsh: that didnt work :\
[05:48] <tobarello> is just a week since i tried some distro on my pc
[05:48] <grogoreo> is there a way to colour code the terminal for remote ssh sessions? So basically, can you change the background colour of the terminal (gnome-terminal) from the command line
[05:49] <tobarello> i am using dapper right now the latest version 6.06
[05:49] <zsh> maria, what program are you using??
[05:49] <MrErnst> how do i add a samba usr called Guest without a passwd?
[05:49] <maria> zsh: xmms and bmp
[05:49] <binarybeats> hello
[05:49] <realist> MrErnst: man smbpasswd
[05:49] <tobarello> i'm still config it
[05:49] <tobarello> and i have some problems to get my webcam working
[05:49] <MrErnst> k
[05:49] <dsacode> frying_fish, sorry, where i can download it? it's based on Clearlooks engine?
[05:49] <frying_fish> grogoreo: you could set up your bashrc
[05:50] <frying_fish> dsacode: its included.....
[05:50] <zsh> maria, sudo xmms
[05:50] <tobarello> do u think u can help me?
[05:50] <dsacode> frying_fish, i use Freebsd :(
[05:50] <grogoreo> frying_fish, would you know how to actually change the background colour?
[05:50] <binarybeats> my virus scanner just alerted on the ubuntu 6.06 i386 iso: detected: Trojan program Trojan-Downloader.Win32.Small.dna	File: U:\LINUX\ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso/programs/abiword/AbiwordSetup.exe/stream/data0007
[05:50] <frying_fish> grogoreo: if you set up your bashrc to show the user@host in different colours that way would work easy
[05:50] <epitaf> can someone please help me unbinX a key? I cant type the laster letter of the man in the sky, goX...help
[05:50] <tobarello> i mean do u have time and exp for my problem?
[05:50] <maria> zsh: yeah thats what i did, do i have to mount the network share?
[05:50] <frying_fish> dsacode: ok, its probably under "ubuntulooks" on gnome-look
[05:50] <grogoreo> frying_fish, thanks for the info!
[05:51] <thx4help> anyone got GMAILFS working on ubuntu?
[05:51] <frying_fish> binarybeats: a) where did you get the iso from, b) the virus scanner fcould be lying
[05:51] <ion> so guys how can I upgrade ?
[05:51] <ion> my ubuntu
[05:51] <phaedrus44> hello!  i install nvidia-glx and nvidia settings...i am using dapper  but this command does not work ---> sudo nvidia-xconfig   anything further i need to do?
[05:51] <binarybeats> frying_fish: downloaded the iso from one of the official mirrors
[05:51] <pawsilver> Hi there can anyone tell me how I can become the owner of my root directory so I can save files and add folders???  thanx
[05:52] <frying_fish> binarybeats: then your virus scanner is providing a false positive
[05:52] <Kyral_Laptop> pawsilver: you DON'T
[05:52] <bbrazil> pawsilver: you don't want to do that
[05:52] <zsh> maria, if you can access it thru nautilus its already mounted
[05:52] <josh___> that didn't work, i just went through the whole thing and it gave me an error still
[05:52] <phaedrus44> pawsilver:  unsafe
[05:52] <binarybeats> frying_fish:  and if it isn't?
[05:52] <grogoreo> pawsilver, just use sudo
[05:52] <phaedrus44> hehe
[05:52] <zsh> maria, huh, i dunno maybe someone else can help... :(
[05:52] <frying_fish> binarybeats: it is wrong.
[05:52] <grogoreo> :-(
[05:52] <maria> zsh: i just go to places, nerwork servers, and i can browse other pcs on my network
[05:52] <josh___> this time the error was screens found but none with usable configuration
[05:52] <maria> zsh: ok thanks
[05:52] <tobarello> ion what do u mean with how can i upgrade?
[05:52] <binarybeats> frying_fish: what if it isn't?
[05:52] <frying_fish> It *WILL NOT* have a trojan on it.
[05:52] <binarybeats> and if it does?
[05:52] <pawsilver> grogoreo, thanks how do I copy a file using sudo?
[05:53] <frying_fish> binarybeats: then you wouldn't have been the first person to mention it.
[05:53] <frying_fish> and still your virus scanner is wrong.
[05:53] <nox-Hand> My alsa is playing from the WRONG audio device - the one in my motherboard - how can I change it?
[05:53] <josh___> what is the bus identifier for the nvidia?
[05:53] <josh___> 0?
[05:53] <ion> tobarello: I mean I can not do that through my shell ?
[05:53] <josh___> or should it be 10?
[05:53] <frying_fish> if it isn't wrong, then oh dear all your information has now been given to the NSA, bend over and take whats coming to you for thinking of using that evil evil linux
[05:53] <binarybeats> frying_fish: don't be insulted.  it's possible my virus scanner isn't wrong
[05:53] <frying_fish> binarybeats: no its not
[05:53] <ion> tobarello:forget the ? :)
[05:53] <bobovski> Thanks for all the help with the gallery stuff, all!!!
[05:53] <binarybeats> yes it is
[05:54] <grogoreo> pawsilver, sudo cp file1 file2    where file1 is the file you want to copy and file2 is where you want to copy it to. What are you trying to copy?
[05:54] <frying_fish> because the packages will not be infected with trojans.
[05:54] <bobovski> be back later
[05:54] <binarybeats> did you read what file is infected?
[05:54] <frying_fish> Because it wouldn't be any good for canonical to supply programs with trojans in them,.
[05:54] <frying_fish> abiword.exe
[05:54] <binarybeats> you didn't even read
[05:54] <kashual> moins
[05:54] <frying_fish> I did read.
[05:54] <frying_fish> it was an abiword file
[05:54] <binarybeats> that's a win32 application
[05:54] <frying_fish> U:\LINUX\ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso/programs/abiword/AbiwordSetup.exe/stream/data0007
[05:54] <phaedrus44> hello!  i install nvidia-glx and nvidia settings...i am using dapper  but this command does not work ---> sudo nvidia-xconfig   anything further i need to do?
[05:54] <binarybeats> it is possible for it to be infected
[05:54] <ion> tobarello:I still have breezy...
[05:54] <frying_fish> yes, but it will still have been compiled on a clean system
[05:54] <waspius> anyone know what system monitor to use but which will not use allot of memory
[05:55] <frying_fish> that will have never had access to the internet
[05:55] <frying_fish> and probably actually cross-compiled
[05:55] <frying_fish> on a linux box.
[05:55] <pawsilver> grogoreo,  I am trying to install freemind and says I need to a XML file into /usr/share/mime/packages
[05:55] <binarybeats> well, what if my scanner isn't wrong
[05:55] <josh___> i dont have nvidia in my driver list?!?!
[05:55] <abrocadabro> is it possible to boot a ubuntu live CD from another computer using pxe boot? my laptop doesn't have a cdrom
[05:55] <frying_fish> if you really think it isn't, then go email someone like the creators.
[05:55] <lix> abrocadabro: yes
[05:56] <ion> tobarello:to upgrade is sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade isn't ?
[05:56] <lix> abrocadabro: I do this with thin clients on edubuntu (LTSP)
[05:56] <grogoreo> pawsilver, ok. Then just do: sudo cp freemind.xml /usr/share/mime/packages/freemind.xml   where freemind.xml is the actual name of the XML file
[05:56] <abrocadabro> lix: how can I do that? I can get installer to work, but I don't know what files to copy for the live CD to work
[05:56] <frying_fish> binarybeats: abiword.exe (the win32 version) will have been cross compiled on *nix box, and won't be infected with a w32 virus
[05:56] <frying_fish> s/virus/trojan/
[05:56] <binarybeats> you're talking like you're 9million percent sure that it isn't infected
[05:56] <lix> abrocadabro: oh. you want to install it the on the local machine?
[05:57] <binarybeats> the truth is, you'd like it to not be true
[05:57] <frying_fish> binarybeats: because I am 100% sure it isn't
[05:57] <binarybeats> and I don't know if it's true
[05:57] <frying_fish> that desktop image wasn't created this morning
[05:57] <pawsilver> grogoreo, Thanks, trying it now
[05:57] <frying_fish> and therefore, if there was a virus it would have been found and eradicated, you are just being dense
[05:57] <binarybeats> frying_fish: you're assuming
[05:57] <abrocadabro> lix: no just use the live CD to fix my laptop, it's now unbootable
[05:57] <virogenesis> josh___,  did you enable the extra repos?
[05:57] <lix> abrocadabro: I never tried this. Just booting a system using ltsp.
[05:57] <frying_fish> binarybeats: and you are blindly believing a virus scanner that could quite easily either be infected itself or more than likely be wrong.
[05:58] <TisMe> Didn't fix it too well then?
[05:58] <zsh> frying_fish, binarybeats, lets not get too personal
[05:58] <binarybeats> my scanner is fine.  and I don't know if it's wrong
[05:58] <frying_fish> how do you know your scanner is fine?
[05:58] <binarybeats> but I can't assume it's wrong
[05:58] <lix> abrocadabro: and if you install a system on a memory stick using debootstrap?
[05:58] <frying_fish> can you be "9million percent sure"
[05:58] <binarybeats> sure I can
[05:58] <pawsilver> grogoreo, Thanks It worked perfectly
[05:58] <lix> abrocadabro: thats maybe the easiest
[05:58] <frying_fish> binarybeats: how?
[05:58] <virogenesis> binarybeats, virus scanners have been known to give false readings
[05:58] <bruceh> UBUNTU IS INSTALLING!
[05:58] <virogenesis> binarybeats, what av is it?
[05:58] <binarybeats> frying_fish: my files are all under md5 hash
[05:59] <grogoreo> pawsilver, good good. Just remember to use sudo sparingly
[05:59] <bruceh> UBUNTU IS INSTALLING!
[05:59] <virogenesis> please don't say norton
[05:59] <Mr_Magic> how do I view my screen of my laptop on my tv?
[05:59] <binarybeats> kaspersky
[05:59] <richiefrich> chill on the CAPS
[05:59] <frying_fish> binarybeats: md5 isn't secure, it has been proven you can make md5 clashes.
[05:59] <bruceh> i'm so excited
[05:59] <bruceh> it took me 2 days!
[05:59] <richiefrich> so
[05:59] <frying_fish> so it could have been made to produce a clash and still be infected.
[05:59] <bruceh> it's finally copying files onto hd
[05:59] <bbrazil> frying_fish: 'collision' :)
[05:59] <richiefrich> u could have done that with any distro
[05:59] <frying_fish> bbrazil: yeah, s/clash/collision/
[05:59] <pawsilver> grogoreo,  Gosh really??? I use it all the time
[05:59] <lix> abrocadabro: then booting the system from the memory stick
[05:59] <binarybeats> frying_fish: stop trying to convince me that it's my scanner.  you shouldn't assume that either
[06:00] <virogenesis> frying_fish, kaspersky is one of the better avs around for windows
[06:00] <zsh> frying_fish, thats very unlikely
[06:00] <bruceh> seems it's better to manually set partitions then let it auto install
[06:00] <abrocadabro> lix: you mean install a bare bone system on a usb disk and boot my laptop using that sub disk?
[06:00] <psiklone> sorry im a complete newb in linux i just updated my gfx driver im using 6800GT and I still cant change my screen resolution past 1024x768
[06:00] <bruceh> bit defender is better than kaspersky
[06:00] <frying_fish> whilst unlikely, its still more likely than the file having a trojan in it.
[06:00] <lix> abrocadabro: yes :)
[06:00] <grogoreo> pawsilver, are you being sarcastic?
[06:00] <virogenesis> i prefer nod32 from my win days
[06:00] <binarybeats> frying_fish: I don't see how
[06:00] <lix> abrocadabro: Sorry. I have to leave soon
[06:00] <bbrazil> binarybeats: have you checked the md5 of the whole iso?
[06:00] <frying_fish> Else do you really think there wouldn't have been anything heard about it from before.......
[06:00] <bruceh> bit defender is also superior to nod
[06:00] <bruceh> kaspersky is superior to nod
[06:00] <binarybeats> bbrazil: not yet
[06:00] <virogenesis> nod is ace
[06:01] <abrocadabro> lix: thanks very much, I'll see what I will come up with
[06:01] <binarybeats> and my av scanner has its own md5 hash
[06:01] <bruceh> acvg?
[06:01] <rellim> what is the command to reset your keymap?
[06:01] <bruceh> avg*
[06:01] <bbrazil> binarybeats: if that and the main md5sum match against the 'official' values ,the chance of a collision is miniscule
[06:01] <frying_fish> binarybeats: I still say the disk won't have a virus in it, since it would have been found already and gotten rid of.
[06:01] <psiklone> anyone?
[06:01] <justin_> Im trying to play QUAKE2, and it keeps saying -could not load pics/colormap.pcx <-- Has anyone had this error, and how did you solve it?
[06:01] <Manziege> what is the proper command to mount my cd-rw drive (dev/hdd) ?
[06:01] <pawsilver> grogoreo,  no Sorry!!  I been serious!  Most things I do tell me to use sudo!  You should check out the ubuntu help files they are always telling you to use sudo
[06:02] <josh___> how do i get nvidia in my xorg drivers list?
[06:02] <grogoreo> justin_, do you have pics/colormap.pcx?
[06:02] <josh___> i only have nv
[06:02] <josh___> and that one aint working
[06:02] <Jman8888> Umm..How can i make my Ubuntu Partition bigger. I have Xp and ubutu installed but i accidentally gave Ubuntu only 22gigs and xp 51...
[06:02] <justin_> grogoreo: No but is that not in the pak0.pak file?
[06:02] <trogbot> Has anyone set up RealPlayer 10GOLD to work with Firefox....need help in getting it to work.
[06:03] <Manziege> what is the proper command to mount my cd-rw drive (dev/hdd) ?
[06:03] <bbrazil> Jman8888: boot the livecd and use gparted
[06:03] <grogoreo> pawsilver, hehe ok. If it says on the Ubuntu help pages, then fine. But, just to be on the safe side try commands as a normal user unless they ask you for super/root privileges
[06:03] <frying_fish> Manziege: if it doesn't do it automatically: sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /dev/hdd /media/cdrom0
[06:03] <Jman8888> on the 5.10 Cd?
[06:03] <pawsilver> grogoreo, Ok, thanks!!  Will remember that
[06:03] <haasteem> erUSUL: the command you suggested had no result... nothing was upgraded...
[06:03] <Jman8888> My 6.06 cd is too slow.....WAY too slow.
[06:03] <bbrazil> Jman8888: that'll probably work
[06:04] <josh___> anyone?
[06:04] <grogoreo> justin_, I wouldn't know as I haven't installed it on Linux. Do you have the proper Quake II CD? As I remember reading that you can get the Quake/Doom clients but you have to have the origional CD
[06:04] <jrattner1> QUESTION: Has anyone here synced Treo 650 or Treo 700p with Evolution in Dapper?
[06:04] <bbrazil> Jman8888: but 6.06 would be better, it's only a once off
[06:04] <grogoreo> pawsilver, np
[06:04] <Gassed> I can't get DOSEmy working
[06:04] <Gassed> DOSEmu*
[06:04] <lix> abrocadabro: Maybe this helps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234004
[06:04] <fredl> hmm 7900gt is kind of expensive.
[06:04] <lix> abrocadabro: bye :)
[06:04] <justin_> grogoreo: Well I have the shareware version of the files, maybe I do need the official files..
[06:05] <erUSUL> haasteem: well then the problem with sound has nothing to do with a failed upgrade...
[06:05] <jrattner1> QUESTION: Is there a 2.6.17 unofficial kernel package for dapper?
[06:05] <haasteem> erUSUL: ??
[06:05] <Gassed> Can anyone help me set up DOSEmu?
[06:05] <Manziege> freying_fish, "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop/0"
[06:05] <Jman8888> Stupid Spyware....
[06:05] <cosma> hello.. I'm trying to compile a kernel module (an USB wireless stick) but make complains about a missing /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-amd64-generic/build directory.. what am I missing? Tnx
[06:05] <trogbot> Anyone?  need help setting Firefox to use RealPlayer just installed.
[06:05] <grogoreo> justin_, then again if you have the shareware then surely you would have them. Try a reinstall
[06:05] <abrocadabro> lix: thanks, it's just the site is under a system upgrade
[06:05] <binarybeats> I need the official hash for ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[06:06] <frying_fish> Manziege: then you don't have loopback enabled in the kernel, did you roll your own?
[06:06] <bbrazil> binarybeats: it's on the website
[06:06] <fredl> what annoys me is that my built-in X700 Pro board is in the same price range when bought separately than a 7600GT
[06:06] <haasteem> erUSUL: when i boot, it says that loading hardware drivers fails, and that PCMCIA services fail...
[06:06] <Manziege> frying_fish, what does roll your own mean?
[06:06] <binarybeats> bbrazil: where on the site
[06:06] <frying_fish> Manziege: did you compile your own.
[06:06] <grogoreo> justin_, and do: sudo apt-get --purge -remove quake   (or whatever the package name is). Use the --purge bit so you will hav ea clean install later
[06:06] <fredl> does anybody here happen to have an ATI X700 PRO ?
[06:06] <bbrazil> binarybeats: same directory as the isos
[06:06] <Manziege> frying_fish, no
[06:06] <frying_fish> ok, the default ones should have loopback enabled.
[06:07] <binarybeats> sorry it's not, I only find the sums for 6.06-1
[06:07] <jrattner1> QUESTION: Is there a 2.6.17 unofficial kernel package for dapper?
[06:07] <erUSUL> haasteem: some of this msg are harmless. i compile my own kernels and see a lot of that msgs... does anything on your system not work as expected?
[06:07] <Manziege> frying_fish, but this drive was installed after linux
[06:07] <erUSUL> jrattner1: no that i konw of. you can compile a vanila kernel though
[06:07] <haasteem> erUSUL: i have no sound
[06:07] <frying_fish> yeah, that has no bearing really
[06:08] <compilerwriter> Hello all.
[06:08] <erUSUL> haasteem: which sound card do you have?
[06:08] <neighborlee> anyone know how long english forums are  to be offline for upgrade ..;-)))
[06:08] <erUSUL> !sound
[06:08] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:08] <frying_fish> Manziege: do you have another cd drive to hand?
[06:08] <frying_fish> anyway, time for me to go cook dinner
[06:08] <haasteem> erUSUL: for instance, if i want to use xmms, it says "failed to open audio output: ALSA 1.2.10 output plugin"
[06:08] <cosma> I'm trying to compile the RT73 wireless driver module.. I see that Makefile tries to run make in folder /lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)/build
[06:08] <Manziege> frying_fish, no
[06:09] <rellim> what is the command to reset your keymap?
[06:09] <Jman8888> How do i make a new partition with the live Cd?
[06:09] <jrattner1> erUSUL: but if i compile a vanilla kernel i run the risk of messing alot of things up correct?
[06:09] <binarybeats> so does anyone have the official hash for ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso and NOT ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[06:09] <zsh> frying_fish, r u having fish by any chance :D
[06:09] <psiklone> anyone know how I can allow my screen resoluiton to go to 1600x1200 right now the resolution selector only lets me goto 1024x768
[06:09] <frying_fish> zsh: nope, probably chicken
[06:09] <maria> does anyone know how i can get a newer version of gtk? my version is 2.4
[06:09] <MenZa> !offtopic > zsh
[06:09] <compilerwriter> Anyone know of an email client that will allow a person to delete selected messages off the server whilst keeping others on the server?  ALA the Delete from server when I delete from deleted messages folder option in Outlook.
[06:09] <cosma> but that doesn't exists... do you know what I'm missing? Tnx
[06:09] <haasteem> erUSUL: it is on the motherboard
[06:10] <frying_fish> jrattner1: yes, but you can go about fixing them after.
[06:10] <jrattner1> hmm
[06:10] <grogoreo> psiklone, go to your xorg.conf and then down to your screen resolutions. You should have a list of ones pre-set, if there isn't one you need add it
[06:10] <jrattner1> i just want my treo to sync
[06:10] <jrattner1> !!
[06:10] <CBMz> Hi, How do i configure Lirc with Leadtek Winfast 2000 XP?
[06:10] <psiklone> grogoreo: i tried that i went to the one for 24 and 16bit colour and added "1600x1200" and it still wouldnt pick it up
[06:11] <Gassed> Can anybody help me with setting up DOSEmu? It just starts and a load of grey text appears, then disapears and i'm back to my Terminal.
[06:11] <erUSUL> haasteem: try 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/phone.wav'
[06:11] <Merline2> hello how i can change UTF-8 to ISO-8859-1 ??
[06:11] <grogoreo> psiklone, have you restarted X? Ctrl+Backspace
[06:11] <micahcowan> Merline2, that's a slightly vague question. Do you want to convert a file to ISO-8859-1 format, or set your terminal to it, or...?
[06:12] <Judo> who can help me on ubuntu install from harddisk
[06:12] <psiklone> grogoreo i did a full reset
[06:12] <Gassed> Can anybody help me with setting up DOSEmu? It just starts and a load of grey text appears, then disapears and i'm back to my Terminal.
[06:12] <haasteem> erUSUL: it gives an error
[06:12] <haasteem> erUSUL: let me write it down
[06:12] <peace-keeper> aahhh why the synaptic package manager always starts automatically after i boot xubuntu ??
[06:12] <kashual> Judo what's exact your problem
[06:13] <Manziege> whats the program called where you run windows on window in linux
[06:13] <erUSUL> haasteem: put the output of lspci in a pastebin...
[06:13] <grogoreo> psiklone, could you post your xorg.conf on a pastebin?
[06:13] <robin_> cam some1 hlp me, i need to install java V1.5 and i am stuck with 1.4 I'm running dapper.
[06:13] <haasteem> erUSUL: ok
[06:13] <epitaf> does a directory need to be empty for the rmdir to work??
[06:13] <psiklone> i will ummm how do i do that, sorry im a complete linux newb
[06:13] <fredl> does anybody here happen to have an ATI X700 PRO ?
[06:13] <Guest665> anyone here?
[06:13] <Judo> kashual: when i boot from grub, the program go to detect hardware and freeze
[06:14] <psiklone> can i just dcc my xorg.conf to you?
[06:14] <harisund> epitaf: yes. If you want to force delete a directory and everything in it, you will have to use rm -rf
[06:14] <richiefrich> pastebin it
[06:14] <grogoreo> psiklone, open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf and copy to contents to: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ put it in the Text bit and then enter your usrename and send. Then post back the link given
[06:14] <psiklone> how?
[06:15] <richiefrich> open up a browse
[06:15] <psiklone> ok thanks alot
[06:15] <richiefrich> browser
[06:15] <robin_> I Need help instlling java 1.5 wath is the pacage name for it ??? etc!!!
[06:15] <Judo> kashual: do you know what's wrong with it?
[06:15] <munsa> can someone help me with an Mplayer error?
[06:16] <richiefrich> robin_do a search for  sun
[06:16] <psiklone> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20986
[06:16] <robin_> I did can't find it ...
[06:16] <tengil> where do i find the wine package for ubuntu
[06:16] <Manziege> whats the program called where you run windows on window in linux
[06:16] <bart416> Anyway, would it be possible to install ubuntu with flopies?
[06:16] <richiefrich> robin_    sun-jre-bin  or  sun-jdk
[06:17] <grogoreo> robin_, maybe j2re1.4
[06:17] <tengil> Manziege: is it wine or vmware you talking about?
[06:17] <epitaf> harisund : thanks
[06:17] <ba5e> is anyone aware of a good flight simulator for linux?
[06:17] <erUSUL> Manziege: it can be vmware or qemu
[06:17] <grogoreo> psiklone, ok, I'll have a look
[06:17] <psiklone> thank you
[06:17] <erUSUL> ba5e: xplane or flightgear
[06:17] <epitaf> can someone help me unbinD my D key?
[06:17] <psiklone> xplane is supposed to be good
[06:17] <epitaf> i cant make small D
[06:18] <gustavold>  hi all, does anybody use the gnome-sticknotes?
[06:18] <munsa> I keep getting this wierd error when I use the Graphical Mplayer, It works fine from the command line but I cant get it to work with the GUI I keep getting this error - Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device
[06:18] <munsa> Anyone got any ideas what the problem is?
[06:18] <ba5e> erUSUL: which one would you reccommend?
[06:18] <richiefrich> munsa i dont know about that error.. but u might try vlc
[06:18] <munsa> VLC works nicely
[06:18] <munsa> but I want Mplayer to work
[06:18] <munsa> haha
[06:19] <richiefrich> ahh
[06:19] <richiefrich> then idk
[06:19] <fredl> HIS 9600 VIVO 256MB, anybody familiar with it?
[06:19] <gustavold> munsa, I have this error too
[06:19] <richiefrich> i use one not both
[06:19] <ba5e> munsa: did you compile yourself?
[06:19] <erUSUL> ba5e: flightgear is free software xplane not. i have not used either of them just take a look at their websites
[06:19] <jorik> is there a way to just record whatever sound ubuntu makes (be it from google video, youtube, a movie, a game, etc ...)? I'm guessing maybe if i move /dev/sound someplace safe and create an empty file there, will it contain the sound after a while ?
[06:19] <ba5e> erUSUL: thanks
[06:19] <tengil> could anyone tell me if there is a wine package for ubuntu and if so what repository line to use. i found it should be in universe but i cant seem to install it anyways
[06:20] <grogoreo> psiklone, it seems to be fine. Are you using the proprietary nVidia drivers?
[06:20] <ramanoar> hello folks... would anyone help me with my video card...
[06:20] <ramanoar> so far couldn't get it to work with it's driver
[06:20] <fredl> isn't the 9600 a relatively old chipset?
[06:20] <erUSUL> tengil: deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[06:20] <munsa> gustavold I did once, I compiled myself, and another time I got it from the repos.
[06:20] <psiklone> i updated from the repo
[06:20] <Manziege> erUSUL , is qemu where you literally install windows on your computer
[06:20] <MenZa> ramanoar: ATI or NVIDIA?
[06:20] <fredl> (sorry I know hardly anything about graphics cards)
[06:20] <Manziege> erUSUL , using the emulator
[06:20] <ramanoar> MenZa: ATI Rage 128 Pro
[06:20] <MenZa> !ati
[06:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:20] <MenZa> Oh, same link.
[06:20] <richiefrich> ramanoar whats the log say can u paste it
[06:20] <MenZa> I'd study that intently.
[06:20] <erUSUL> Manziege: yes you can do it afaik in vmware for sure
[06:21] <bart416> isn't an ati rage supported by x.org itself?
[06:21] <Judo> who can help me on harddisk install
[06:21] <tengil> erUSUL: i already done that and i get this message: Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[06:21] <ramanoar> richiefrich: the log is quite big
[06:21] <tengil> i guess there is no wine for amd64?
[06:21] <compilerwriter> Anyone know of an email client that will allow a person to delete selected messages off the server whilst keeping others on the server? ALA the Delete from server when I delete from deleted messages folder option in Outlook.
[06:21] <haasteem> erUSUL: sorry, pastebin is slow at the moment
[06:21] <epitaf> Help! Can someone please help me? :)
[06:21] <ramanoar> richiefrich: as for the r128 part i don't think it has any problems
[06:21] <richiefrich> ramanoar pastebin it
[06:21] <gustavold> anyone know if sticknotes is without support/developer?
[06:21] <erUSUL> tengil: wine does not work in 64 bits
[06:22] <ramanoar> richiefrich: pastebin?
[06:22] <tengil> erUSUL: ok does vmware?
[06:22] <richiefrich> ramanoar then whats the issue
[06:22] <erUSUL> tengil: yes.
[06:22] <Manziege> erUSUL , I have windows backed up to an image because right now I have no cd drive, I need to install windows, so i was going to use that to isntall it
[06:22] <grogoreo> compilerwriter, just use the POP3 option to keep emails on server or use IMAP. Evolution is both
[06:22] <ramanoar> gdm freezes, and i can't even get to a virtual terminal
[06:22] <jorgp> is there a cli app I can use to check how many frames are in a .avi or .mpg file?
[06:22] <erUSUL> ramanoar: boot in recovery mode
[06:23] <tengil> erUSUL: thanks
[06:23] <richiefrich> ramanoar then please pastebin..  -->
[06:23] <richiefrich> http://rafb.net/paste/
[06:23] <ramanoar> richiefrich: i did, and got the previous config working... using mesa =/
[06:23] <erUSUL> !ask
[06:23] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:23] <robin_> richiefrich, i can't find it, ifi search for sun and port it to a grep jre etc it just isn't there, maybe my sources are wong?? remember I'm using Dapper not breeszy, and I need java V1.5 instead of 1.4. ?
[06:23] <erUSUL> !help
[06:23] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:23] <fredl> a lot of what I'm hearing on here seems to be related to graphics cards.....
[06:23] <haasteem> erUSUL: pastebin.com/771348
[06:24] <Elios> ok any one know about setting up domains
[06:24] <richiefrich> robin_ yes yes then get it from sun
[06:24] <bart416> Oh great, i'm so screwed, i need to install linux with flopies, BUT the only network adapter is a pcmcia card :|
[06:24] <epitaf> please.... can someone help me out?
[06:24] <richiefrich> robin_  http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:25] <grogoreo> epitaf, what's your question
[06:25] <robin_> richiefrich,  the sun installer dumps it in the wrong place and' i don't have anny experiance installing an rpm in ubuntu...
[06:25] <epitaf> grogoreo: hello, anD thanks for answering
[06:25] <epitaf> grogoreo : i cant make small D
[06:25] <richiefrich> robin_ use alien
[06:25] <epitaf> grogoreo: I trieD to binD it earlier, but it messeD up
[06:25] <bart416> uhm, since when does ubuntu support rpm's, start trying to use deb packages :|
[06:25] <epitaf> grogoreo: let me show you the commanDs I useD
[06:26] <epitaf> grogoreo : gconftool-2 -t str --set /apps/metacity/global_keybindings/run_command_9 "<Super_L>D"
[06:26] <fredl> I see an ATI Radeon 9550SE here for sale for $35. Will that card work well on Dapper, is it reasonably fast? Does it do 3D? do I need fglrx? does it sound like a good deal?
[06:26] <richiefrich> ramanoar  http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=47858&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0  <-- look there u see that xorg.conf there using the     Driver      "radeon"
[06:26] <ramanoar> richiefrich: pasted on the website you gave me
[06:26] <epitaf> grogoreo : gconftool-2 -t str --set /apps/metacity/keybinding_commands/command_9 "<Control><Alt>D"
[06:26] <richiefrich> ramanoar ook the url please
[06:26] <ramanoar> richiefrich: mine isn't a radeon
[06:26] <ramanoar> richiefrich: http://rafb.net/paste/results/QLpzW427.html
[06:27] <erUSUL> haasteem: 'lsmod | grep snd' or 'ls /dev/snd/' gives any output?
[06:27] <ramanoar> richiefrich: it's the log when i tried using ati driver
[06:27] <grogoreo> epitaf, I've not touch keyboard mappings so i wouldn't know
[06:27] <richiefrich> ok
[06:27] <erUSUL> haasteem: i have to go away a minute. sorry ;(
[06:27] <epitaf> grogoreo : ok.....
[06:27] <fredl> lamego: I see an ATI Radeon 9550SE here for sale for $35. Will that card work well on Dapper, is it reasonably fast? Does it do 3D? do I need fglrx? does it sound like a good deal?
[06:28] <haasteem> erUSUL: ok... both give output
[06:28] <richiefrich> ramanoar  (WW) (1280x960,SyncMaster) mode clock 148.5MHz exceeds DDC maximum 110MHz
[06:28] <lamego> fredl, my 9600 works just fine, it does 3D, you need the fglrx for the 3D, I don't know that model in particular, for my model i am sure it would be a good deal
[06:28] <richiefrich> ramanoar all them man.. edit your monitor sync
[06:29] <lamego> My current system is 3 years old, I don't need a new video card, i just need more mem and a better cpu :P
[06:29] <fredl> lamego: you have 256Mb?
[06:29] <SPOPPO> hey
[06:29] <stuh84> hey could anyone out there help, i'm trying to get me wireless card working on my ubuntu install, i've got a deb package that is trying to install, but it keeps giving me a prompt for "Where is the linux source build directory that matches your running kernel?", and I have no idea where to point it
[06:29] <ramanoar> richiefrich:  where do i do that?
[06:29] <SPOPPO> tell me
[06:29] <stuh84> the deb package being the driver for it
[06:29] <ramanoar> i used dpkg-reconfigure to reconfigure xserver
[06:29] <richiefrich> ramanoar  can u now paste your xorg.conf
[06:29] <ramanoar> yep
[06:29] <ramanoar> wait a sec
[06:29] <richiefrich> ok
[06:30] <richiefrich> and what monitor u got
[06:30] <lamego> fredl, yes, but i really dont need it, 128 MB would be fine for the resolutions I use
[06:30] <richiefrich> ramanoar  model number and all
[06:30] <lamego> stuh84, you need to install the linux kernel headers
[06:30] <cosma> stuh84: probably we are on the same boat :) what kind of wireless card do you have?
[06:30] <richiefrich> ramanoar ill google for the right syncs while your pasteing
[06:30] <stefg> stuh84: given that you already installed build-essential you need to  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:31] <lamego> stuh84, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:31] <ramanoar> richiefrich: http://rafb.net/paste/results/M92Ju519.html
[06:31] <fredl> ah okay, here it says: The 9550 is the same as the 9600, but with a slower clocked GPU (75Mhz
[06:31] <fredl> slower)
[06:31] <stuh84> does that require me to have a working internet connection though from ubuntu
[06:31] <richiefrich> ramanoar ill google for the right syncs while your pasteing
[06:31] <ikaruga> hi all, I followed the instructions to install apache2, mysql, and myphpadmin from the Ubuntu Guide. However, when I go to localhost/phpmyadmin, I get an "error 500"---server overloaded or an error in the cgi-script
[06:31] <ramanoar> richiefrich: alright, but it's posted already
[06:31] <lamego> stuh84, not sure if the headers are included on the cd
[06:31] <tomasz27> which firewall do u recommend for Ubuntu?
[06:31] <robin_> richiefrich,  thanks!!! works great, i'll bookmark that site.
[06:31] <lamego> tomasz27, none :)
[06:31] <richiefrich> robin_ np
[06:31] <tomasz27> u SURE?
[06:31] <stuh84> alright i'll give it a try, thanks guys
[06:32] <lamego> yes
[06:32] <richiefrich> ramanoar  model number and all  <-- mointor info
[06:32] <tomasz27> HOW about AV software?
[06:32] <richiefrich> robin_ so u got java now?
[06:32] <richiefrich> robin_  the sun one
[06:33] <ramanoar> richiefrich: Samsung SyncMaster 753v
[06:33] <stuh84> damnit, it looks like it needs a connection for the linux-headers
[06:33] <bpont> does anyone use tor?
[06:33] <ikaruga> oh never mind, the directory permissions were wrong
[06:33] <stuh84> and to cosma: a safecom 54mbps one
[06:33] <stuh84> swlpt-54125 to be exact
[06:34] <zsh> tomasz27, clamav for the av and firestrater for the firewall
[06:34] <stefg> stuh84: you can also download them, put the package on a usb-stick and install it by dpkg -i
[06:34] <tomasz27> do I need AV software for Ubuntu?
[06:34] <bart416> What debian linux version has kernel 2.4.16 ?
[06:34] <stuh84> i had a feeling that might be the case
[06:34] <zsh> tomasz27, no not really. unless you are really paranoid :)
[06:34] <bpont> no one here uses tor??
[06:35] <tomasz27> Well I am running Windows on my laptop, but Ubuntu on the desktop
[06:35] <ramanoar> richiefrich: Samsung SyncMaster 753v
[06:35] <TMT[fi] > Hello
[06:36] <UpMarc> Hello... Can someone tell me a software that can edit WMM filmc or clips or videos in ubuntu?
[06:36] <richiefrich> ramanoar  http://rafb.net/paste/results/UN5kWi85.html
[06:36] <bart416> Only people that constantly use the root account need an antivirus :|
[06:36] <lamego> tomasz27, there are no know virus for linux "at the wild" for now
[06:36] <zsh> tomasz27, if you dont mind the clock cycles and ram the av will take then why not.
[06:36] <tomasz27> THANKS
[06:36] <richiefrich> ramanoar  change them lines
[06:36] <snoops> hey is there to export your history in terminal? Such as you press up on the keyboard to see the last command and that's persistant between reboots.. is there a file which has all those lines?
[06:36] <jrattner1> QUESTION: Has anyone here synced Treo 650 or Treo 700p with Evolution in Dapper?
[06:36] <richiefrich> ramanoar a and retry
[06:36] <lamego> bart416, regular users would need to, because the virus could delete your data files :)
[06:36] <sethk> lamego, actually, there are two.
[06:37] <snoops> is there a way*
[06:37] <Ng> snoops: ~/.bash_history or just run "history"
[06:37] <richiefrich> ramanoar does that make sence ?
[06:37] <lamego> sethk, on the wild means there is a significant ammount of infections, which is not the case
[06:37] <Elios> ok im trying to get windows to use a domain in place of workgroups so when i try and log in to the domain
[06:37] <bart416> lamego, the chance of getting it is small if your network is firewalled
[06:37] <snoops> boy do I feel silly Ng - re "history".. Thanks I appreciate it :)
[06:37] <TMT[fi] > Have any1 had any problems with Toshiba Satellite P15-S470 laptop in Dapper?
[06:37] <frying_fish> snoops: its either .bash_profile or .bashrc
[06:37] <lamego> bart416, not really, you just need to open an email with a script
[06:37] <Elios> the server is saying theres already that user loged in
[06:37] <frying_fish> to set up how much it retains
[06:37] <sethk> lamego, no, in the wild means that there is some chance of it showing up on your box.  "significant" is not a meaningful term here.
[06:38] <ramanoar> richiefrich: would that get me a 1152x864 @ 75Hz of resolution?
[06:38] <richiefrich> ramanoar those are your monitors syncs
[06:38] <lamego> sethk, we have different definitons for "on the wild"
[06:38] <ramanoar> richiefrich: ok, i'll try...
[06:38] <richiefrich> ramanoar as of now it's freaking out..  what u have is wrong
[06:38] <fredl> dang, I have so many 'great' video boards here that were great at the time I bought them.... Now I'm thinking about buying another one because the fastest that I have has a buggy driver....
[06:38] <tomasz27> is gFTP a good FTP Client?
[06:39] <bart416> I need an old debian that allows floppy install :'(
[06:39] <lamego> tomasz27, nautilus is better in my opinnion
[06:39] <richiefrich> tomasz27  yafc
[06:39] <bart416> oh well going to #debian
[06:39] <fredl> graphics card vendors must have an interest in writing quickly obsolete and buggy code
[06:39] <tomasz27> WHY?
[06:39] <ramanoar> richiefrich: other thing, do i need to change anything so gdm runs on a selected resolution? 'cause i only get 1024x768 @ 85Hz as maximum config
[06:40] <sethk> ramanoar, that usually means that if you check your X log file, it will have found that as the highest available resolution.
[06:40] <blubox> Does anybody know of a really good way to test how secure your system is?  Is port scanning enough?
[06:40] <richiefrich> ramanoar yes then change the bottom part.. where u have --> 		Modes		"1152x864" "1152x768" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"   <-- line 128
[06:40] <sethk> ramanoar, which can mean it believes your video card can't do better, or it can mean it believes you monitor can't do better
[06:40] <johso> heya ppl. I've got a bit of a problem. I get 'error 17' in GRUB  when I boot my computer. And I've found out that my ext3 partition, where everything is installed, now is recognised as a 'af' partition - which renders it unbootable. Somehow all the files are intact though, so I'm not sure how to proceed. Is there a way to forcing GRUB to boot, or something like that? Any help would be appreciated.
[06:40] <fredl> for at least Sapphie, their X700 Pro is the successor to their 9600 and now I'm contemplating buying a 9600 card because my X700 no longer works but USED to work :/
[06:40] <fredl> Sapphire that is.
[06:41] <richiefrich> sethk his syncs are wrong.. for the monitor
[06:41] <frying_fish> johso: boot live cd, run fdisk, set bootable flag, reinstall grub from the livecd
[06:41] <Elios> ATi has bad linux drivers
[06:41] <Elios> get something from NV
[06:41] <sethk> richiefrich, that's another way of saying it believes his monitor can't do higher.
[06:41] <frying_fish> fredl: get an nvidia card instead
[06:41] <ramanoar> richiefrich: thing is i tried changing that line using vesa driver, and couldn't get a higher resolution
[06:41] <richiefrich> tomasz27 i like  yafc it is a cmd line interface
[06:41] <johso> frying_fish: thanks, will try it. :)
[06:41] <richiefrich> Elios i disagree
[06:41] <Elios> ?
[06:41] <Elios> realy
[06:42] <richiefrich> Elios  ATi came out with 7.1 drives b4 nvidia
[06:42] <richiefrich> and they work
[06:42] <Elios> i have had nothing but trouble ever getting ATi cards to work with 3d in linux
[06:42] <fredl> frying_fish, Elios: yeah I'm thinking along the same lines, that's why I'm looking into used cards....
[06:42] <Elios> ah
[06:42] <ramanoar> richiefrich: with those resolutions on the xorg.conf, gdm can't do better than 1024x768
[06:42] <richiefrich> Elios thats user error
[06:42] <sethk> ramanoar, do it the easy way, with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:42] <fredl> richiefrich, my ATI 7.1 card does not work.
[06:42] <ramanoar> sethk: you don't know how many times i tried :P
[06:42] <Elios> yet i can get NV cards and 3Dfx cards to work frist try....
[06:42] <tomasz27> do I need Gparted to create partitions in Ubuntu?
[06:42] <frying_fish> richiefrich: I thought you can't use ati with aiglx because they haven't yet written the code needed, and thats xorg 7.1 isn't it...
[06:42] <richiefrich> fredl then u did it wrong.. they work here in gentoo land
[06:43] <richiefrich> frying_fish u can
[06:43] <frying_fish> tomasz27: no, you can use fdisk.
[06:43] <fredl> richiefrich, that's kind of a bold statement. Are you willing to prove your statement that it's user error?
[06:43] <sethk> ramanoar, what happens?  You probably just need to select the option that let's you specify modes/refresh rates for your monitor, and override what it believes the monitor can do.
[06:43] <blubox> One more thing, is there something like symantec ghost for linux?
[06:43] <tomasz27> where do I type fdisk
[06:43] <sethk> ramanoar, you don't have to deal with refresh rates, go up a level and deal with resolutions
[06:43] <richiefrich> frying_fish read the news man that old news.. intel did there 1st then ATi and nvidia still lags
[06:43] <frying_fish> really? since when, I might hacve to see about setting up aiglx on my desktop with ati card then, since I will be upgrading soon, so breaking it now isn'nt too much hassle.
[06:43] <sethk> tomasz27, at a command prompt.   use sudo, if you aren't root
[06:44] <richiefrich> frying_fish been on dig
[06:44] <MaxL> CAn you get Amarok to play music that's on a different computer connected by network?
[06:44] <tomasz27> where do I check how much FREE disk space I have?
[06:44] <richiefrich> digg*
[06:44] <sethk> tomasz27, df -h
[06:44] <richiefrich> two weeks i think
[06:44] <frying_fish> richiefrich: I just note that #ubuntu+1 mentions if you use fglrx then aiglx will not work.
[06:44] <fredl> richiefrich, I've been digging into this for days, and I'm now looking into buying an nvidia card... if you can fix my problem I'm willing to pay you what I would have paid for the nvidia card I was just talking about :)
[06:44] <ramanoar> sethk: i'll try richiefrich tip, i'll be back for some feedback
[06:44] <MaxL> Hey does anyone use amarok
[06:44] <ramanoar> richiefrich: thanks man
[06:45] <fredl> ofcourse it was only $35 :)
[06:46] <harisund> does anyone here have a Compaq Presario V2000z kind of a laptop? When I use the alternate CD to install the screen gets 'wiped' if you know what I mean. Think it could be a framebuffer problem? What vga options do I need to set?
[06:46] <Elios> ok any one know how to set up a domain
[06:46] <Elios> i cant find any thing usefull on google
[06:46] <sethk> harisund, hopefully you aren't using frame buffer
[06:46] <richiefrich> fredl not at all.. i dont know ubuntu all that well
[06:46] <bruceh> try ask.com
[06:46] <richiefrich> fredl it u can compile from source
[06:46] <bruceh> superior engine
[06:46] <sethk> harisund, it's clearly a video problem; more it isn't possible to say without more data
[06:46] <fredl> richiefrich, done that.
[06:46] <fredl> richiefrich, doesn't work :)
[06:46] <harisund> sethk how do I ask the alternate CD text mode installer to 'not' use the framebuffeR?
[06:46] <richiefrich> fredl then i can help theres a forum post
[06:47] <richiefrich> fredl on the gentoo forums
[06:47] <fusion_05> hey folks.  i'm setting up a mythtv box and i have no idea how to start mysql...anyone know how?
[06:47] <sethk> harisund, I don't know, why do you believe it is using frame buffer?
[06:47] <fredl> url?
[06:47] <bigfuzzyjesus> how hard is it to set up nvidea grafix card
[06:47] <fredl> richiefrich, url?
[06:47] <richiefrich> fredl let me get it
[06:48] <harisund> sethk to be frank, I don't even know what the framebuffer is, or when it is being used or not. In earlier versions of Ubuntu installer, there was a command line option that I could pass to the installer. However, now Dapper comes with a GUI installer and the world has ignored the text mode one. There is no documentation on what command line options I can pass to it.
[06:48] <richiefrich> fredl  http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-489785-highlight-ati.html
[06:48] <baikonur> hi
[06:48] <fredl> richiefrich, I can tell you though that my problem is NOT trivial. it just seems evident to me there's a bug in the driver
[06:48] <sethk> harisund, isn't there help at the boot prompt?  that's where the info was in breezy
[06:48] <baikonur> I just installed network-manager-gnome, I then made an entry in "autostarted applications" nm-applet and logged out. Now there were two instances of nm-applet running, so I deleted the entry in "autostarted applications" logged out and in again but still to instance fo nm-applet running. Where does this autostart come from?
[06:49] <richiefrich> fredl  i can tell u it works here what card
[06:49] <Veris> How do I keep Shift + Backspace from restarting XFCE?
[06:49] <sethk> harisund, why not just install breezy, and then upgrade to dapper (although, actually, I'm not upgrading to dapper yet; it's too new)
[06:49] <fredl> richiefrich, an X700 Pro card.
[06:49] <lamego> harisund, http://wiki.antlinux.com/pmwiki.php?n=HowTos.VgaModes
[06:49] <lamego> it may help...
[06:50] <harisund> sethk I would prefer to start with Dapper directly. Dapper's AMD64 is better than Breezy's AMD64 in that it recognizes more hardware in my laptop.
[06:50] <richiefrich> fredl ahh then i'm not to sure.. i didnt hear much on the X### cards.. that i will say that idk for real but my radeon 9700 pro sings nice
[06:50] <fredl> richiefrich, it detects it fine, I'm running the 8.27.10 drivers
[06:50] <harisund> thanks lamego I will have al ook.
[06:50] <richiefrich> fredl thats the driver
[06:50] <UpMarc> Hello.... can someone indicate me an application for viewing .wmm files (and also for editing it as well as other formats)? Thank you.
[06:51] <fredl> richiefrich, it comes up properly and works for a while. Then there's trashing on the screen at unpredictable moments.
[06:51] <J_P> Anyone know if works very well I install debian sarge, and after upgrade do dapper ? Becous eI not find ubuntu hosting, only debian sarge hosting!!
[06:51] <lamego> ?? restrictedformatos
[06:51] <GameCat> hi - can anyone help me with instructions for adding a new soundcard (soundblaster) to a working dapper?
[06:51] <johso> frying_fish: after booting the live cd, I tried to set the bootable flag, and then reboot. still get the error 17.
[06:51] <frying_fish> ahh, it seems dappers driver is too old ati wise.
[06:51] <frying_fish> johso: reinstall grub
[06:51] <frying_fish> there is a wiki page on how to do it
[06:51] <johso> frying_fish: also tried that, but it doesn't really work for me
[06:51] <frying_fish> really?
[06:51] <fredl> 8.27.10 is the latest ATI driver, correct?
[06:52] <harisund> by the way, sethk and lamego do you know where I can find any documentation on what exactly is a *framebuffer*, what it does, and what happens if I disable it?
[06:52] <johso> frying_fish: the thing is, it's not recognised as a ext3 partition, which is really weird
[06:52] <frying_fish> fredl: yes, dapper's repo's suggest its latest is 8.25.18
[06:52] <fredl> frying_fish, yeah but the Wiki has instructions on how to install 8.27.10
[06:52] <johso> frying_fish: but all the data is intact, which doesn't make sense at all.
[06:52] <sethk> J_P, don't mix debian and ubuntu configuration, it simply isn't sensible.
[06:52] <frying_fish> fredl: oh yeah, I could set it up if I can be bothered, not sure I can yet
[06:52] <lamego> harisund, framebuffer as far I know is something you dont need to care about unless you are a developer, it its region in memory to interface with the video card
[06:53] <sethk> harisund, on the xorg site you'll find some info.  there are two types, real (hardware) and software
[06:53] <eigenlambda> is there any way to convince scp not to encrypt traffic?
[06:53] <sethk> harisund, for some odd reason people turn on the software frame buffer feature, which really makes no sense
[06:53] <harisund> I see.. intersesting.
[06:53] <frying_fish> eigenlambda: nope, it goes via ssh
[06:53] <sethk> eigenlambda, scp's reason for existing is to encrypt traffic
[06:53] <sethk> eigenlambda, rcp is a version without encryption
[06:53] <frying_fish> which is encrypted, why would you want to have it unencrypted (being that its only reason for being is encrypted copying)
[06:53] <bruceh> how do I mount a network drive in ubuntu?
[06:54] <bruceh> using the desktop
[06:54] <fredl> frying_fish, I tried installing the 8.27.10 driver, didn't solve my problem.
[06:54] <harisund> bruceh what sort of a network drive? Samba? NFS?
[06:54] <bruceh> I dunno where to input commands
[06:54] <bruceh> windows
[06:54] <UpMarc> Hello.... I'm new to all this. Can someone indicate me an application for viewing .wmm files (and also for editing it as well as other formats, like avi, mpeg etc)? Thank you.
[06:54] <frying_fish> fredl: well my gfx works, 9600XT, just wanted to test aiglx, and if that now works will be interesting to play with
[06:54] <richiefrich> frying_fish  nad fredl  http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-484520.html
[06:54] <frying_fish> since aiglx will be better than xgl ?
[06:55] <richiefrich> frying_fish  http://digg.com/linux_unix/ATI_Beats_nVidia_to_Xorg_7_1_Compatible_Drivers
[06:55] <frying_fish> richiefrich: taa, may look into it later
[06:55] <bruceh> sweet 2 more hours and I get to play around with fedora
[06:55] <richiefrich> frying_fish u said u didnt see it so im just posting urls
[06:55] <zsh> is there an app to open .daa files on linux??
[06:55] <bruceh> so anyone got ideas how to mount network drive onto ubuntu box?
[06:55] <bruceh> windows based networ drive
[06:55] <bruceh> win 2000
[06:55] <fredl> richiefrich, that's the one I have installed, I don't think my issue is a known issue
[06:55] <sethk> bruceh, use samba to mount windows shares in linux
[06:55] <lamego> UpMarc, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:55] <GameCat> bruceh: smbmount
[06:56] <bruceh> do I have to dl samba?
[06:56] <frying_fish> bruceh: make an fstab entry?
[06:56] <UpMarc> Iamego: ty
[06:56] <bobovski> hi #ubuntu, I'm back with another apache2 question!
[06:56] <richiefrich> fredl  well u said it works..  then crashs
[06:56] <frying_fish> bruceh: probably
[06:56] <lamego> harisund, http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Kernel_parameters <- could also help
[06:56] <bobovski> I cannot seem to create a virtual server
[06:56] <bruceh> so i can use samba, smbmount, or fstab?
[06:56] <peace-keeper> what program i use for playing .WMV files ?
[06:56] <fredl> richiefrich, yup... am I misreading something on that page you mean?
[06:56] <bruceh> which is best
[06:56] <bruceh> or are they the same thing?
[06:57] <richiefrich> fredl no no.. i mean it works then crashes ?
[06:57] <skarface> bruceh: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Windows
[06:57] <richiefrich> fredl u said it loads
[06:57] <GameCat> bruceh: same thing - fstab will use smbmount to do it, which is part of samba :)
[06:57] <GameCat> bruceh: smbfs - mount and umount commands for the smbfs
[06:57] <lamego> bruceh, use the fstab if you want those mounts at each boot
[06:57] <sethk> bruceh, fstab contains information about desired mounts of all types, not just windows
[06:57] <sethk> bruceh, smbmount is a program to do a mount
[06:57] <bobovski> do I edit the config file in usr/share/apache2/config or the one in etc/apache2/sites-enabled?
[06:57] <bruceh> where do I input these commands in ubuntu?
[06:57] <fredl> richiefrich, yup, it loads and detects the card fine. Depening on whether I use ATI's own internal AGP driver or the Linux AGP driver, it either hangs completely after a while, or it starts trashing the screen.
[06:57] <sethk> bruceh, samba is a metapackage including a bunch of different samba programs
[06:58] <richiefrich> fredl then your ram my be bad
[06:58] <johso> Since I can access my ext3 (it's recognized as an 'af') partition, wouldn't it be possible to copy everything to another computer, wipe it, and copy everything back? If possible, how would I go around doing that (securely)?
[06:58] <skarface> bruceh: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Windows
[06:58] <fredl> richiefrich, unlikely. It has been working fine in Breezy for months.
[06:58] <bruceh> reading thanks
[06:58] <sethk> johso, yes
[06:58] <fredl> richiefrich, (I know that's no statement of fact that it's NOT broken :)
[06:58] <Flamekebab> Does anyone have any experience regarding installing linux on laptops without CDROM drives?
[06:58] <richiefrich> fredl that should not happen.. at all.. i am sure u know that. u seem on top of things
[06:58] <Wulfie> so everytime I try and reboot Ubuntu creates a new /lib/modules/KERNEL/volatile/fglrx.ko - where does it get this kernel mod from? how do I get it to pick up the one I have built?
[06:59] <sethk> johso, you would probably need to reinstall grub, unless you also back up the mbr
[06:59] <frying_fish> johso: yes, probably, and via scp
[06:59] <frying_fish> if going to windows and then back you may want winscp.
[06:59] <sethk> Wulfie, what do you mean by "creates a new"?
[06:59] <fredl> richiefrich, I'm going to report the problem to ATI. I don't think there's too many Linux users with an X700 Pro.
[06:59] <Wulfie> sethk: if I rm -rf fglrx.ko in that directory then reboot it reappears there
[06:59] <richiefrich> fredl no i dont think so .. it's a good card im sure
[06:59] <Flamekebab> Anyone able to help me?
[07:00] <sethk> Wulfie, unless you did the rm with sudo, it did nothing
[07:00] <johso> I think that might be my last option
[07:00] <sethk> Wulfie, and you do NOT ever want to delete a kernel module that way
[07:00] <GameCat> I'm off
[07:00] <frying_fish> so, richiefrich you have ATi then? and using it with aiglx or xgl?
[07:00] <Wulfie> sethk: well I actually moved it then deleted it
[07:00] <Wulfie> sethk: and i did it with sudo
[07:00] <Wulfie> sethk: I just wanted to test what would happen
[07:00] <Wulfie> because I can't get the one I built to be used it seems
[07:00] <bobovski> I guess my main problem is I can only find documentation which tells me to alter httpd.conf, which is not used in my version of apache
[07:00] <sethk> Wulfie, I'm sure you'll find another copy somewhere on your drive that is being copied in.  Whatever you may think you are fixing by doing that, it won't work
[07:01] <richiefrich> frying_fish i used it with xgl.. i dont like it im an e17/e16 man'
[07:01] <DevGet> I'm searching for a ubuntu fork with only free and open software, anyone who knows something like that?
[07:01] <Wulfie> sethk: I know I am not fixing it
[07:01] <frying_fish> richiefrich: ok, well I will have to see if people have used it with aiglx and if so then I will try it and see how nice it is.
[07:01] <Wulfie> sethk: it was a test to see what was going on
[07:01] <richiefrich> frying_fish but it works on aiglx  i see no need for it though
[07:01] <bbrazil> DevGet: try #ubuntu-libre
[07:02] <sethk> DevGet, you simply do not enable the repositories that have non-free software.  that's why the repositories are set up that way
[07:02] <frying_fish> I just want some of the funky features
[07:02] <frying_fish> like the f12 layout of the windows, and playing with the cube.
[07:02] <richiefrich> frying_fish been done let me dig somemore ill find a site
[07:02] <Fernand1> hello
[07:02] <sethk> Wulfie, it is either being copied from somewhere, or rebuilt.  obviously
[07:02] <frying_fish> richiefrich: don't worry, if it works I will try it later
[07:02] <Frankenstein> how can i extract an .iso to my hdd
[07:02] <DevGet> sethk: yes, but there is non-open kernel modules or?
[07:02] <Shrimp> hello
[07:02] <frying_fish> on laptop currently
[07:02] <Flamekebab> I'd like to install Xubuntu on a laptop either from a network, or from a USB drive, any help?
[07:02] <bbrazil> sethk: actually the kernel.deb has non-free stuff in it
[07:02] <Wulfie> sethk: yes I understand that - thus my question was a) how do I stop it b) how do I get it to use the one I built
[07:02] <sethk> DevGet, the only ones of any import are related to graphics cards.
[07:02] <Shrimp> I have a question!!!
[07:03] <dr_willis> !ask
[07:03] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:03] <bbrazil> sethk: and network cards
[07:03] <sethk> bbrazil, I don't use it, I download from kernel.org
[07:03] <Fernand1> I have a problem :)
[07:03] <Ych> ok, even though i expect no to be the answer, i just have to ask... is there any filesystem linux can write to and windows can read? for an external drive
[07:03] <Wulfie> and I am guessing rebuilt since the only other fglrx.ko on my system is the one I built
[07:03] <richiefrich> frying_fish  http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_AIGLX
[07:03] <erUSUL> DevGet: install vrms ;)
[07:03] <Killeroid> Shrimp:?
[07:03] <evilghost> Frankenstein:  mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /media/cdrom
[07:03] <sethk> Wulfie, did you copy the one you built into the /lib/modules tree?
[07:03] <stuh84> right if anyone remembers the wrieless problem, i've just put the kernel headers in, but still unsure of where to point the question "Where is the linux source build directory that matches your running kernel?"
[07:03] <richiefrich> frying_fish what card u have
[07:03] <frying_fish> 9600XT
[07:03] <Wulfie> sethk: yes - its in /lib/modules/KERNEL/kernel/driver/char/drm
[07:03] <sethk> Ych, yes, fat32
[07:03] <Ych> really?
[07:03] <Frankenstein> evilghost, the .iso is on my hdd... id like to extract it to a folder on my hdd
[07:03] <Shrimp> I just bought an 80GB SATA hardrive and I need to know if I install ubuntu on it will it affect my other 250GB SATA hardrive at all?
[07:04] <frying_fish> so not supported yet by that list.
[07:04] <Ych> linux writes it problemlessy?
[07:04] <Wulfie> sethk: which is where ATI puts it by default
[07:04] <sethk> Wulfie, copy it also to the place where you are deleting it
[07:04] <Wulfie> sethk: yes - but if I reboot it gets copied over
[07:04] <sethk> Wulfie, make it read only, then it won't be replaced
[07:04] <Ych> sethk, can fat32 partitions be larger than 32GB?
[07:04] <evilghost> stuh84:  Did you install linux-kernel-source and then unbzip2 it in /usr/src/linux?
[07:04] <sethk> Ych, I'm not sure, I never tried.
[07:04] <Killeroid> Shrimp: no,i dont think so
[07:04] <Wulfie> sethk: I can do that every time I boot and its fine - I just don't want to have to do that every boot
[07:04] <Killeroid> Shrimp: arentyou the guy form #invisionfree.com?
[07:04] <Fernand1> My sound doesn't work. Unless I start up my computer with my driver CD inside. I am REALLY new to ubuntu, and I don't know how to install drivers. If it helps, I have a SoundBlaster Audigy 2 Value sound card. And the drivers are in my CD, which comes with a *.exe file. Does anyone know how I can install my drivers without having to start my computer with my Driver CD in my cd tray all the time :( ?
[07:04] <stuh84> quite possibly not, i'll give that a try
[07:04] <Ych> sethk, cause filesystems are causing me some major trouble in deciding what do to with my 250gig external...
[07:05] <Ych> since i use both os's
[07:05] <sergiol> hello
[07:05] <jrojas> hi, i need change the filesystem of a hard drive, was ntfs and now i want to change to fat32 without loose my data.. it's possible?
[07:05] <Ych> though windows only for LAN gaming
[07:05] <sergiol> i am with a prob
[07:05] <bruceh> oh, in graphical interface, it's in share folders option
[07:05] <Killeroid> jrojas: not possible
[07:05] <sergiol> there are missing me ghostscript fonts
[07:05] <sergiol> i have already gsfonts and gsfonts-x11
[07:05] <sergiol> what pack is missing me
[07:05] <bobovski> oh, figured it out, I think
[07:05] <jrojas> Killeroid, what about gparted ?
[07:05] <Ych> !fat32
[07:05] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:06] <Fernand1> can anyone help me with my sound card problem?
[07:06] <sethk> Ych, if not for the issue of being readable in windows, there are good file systems without size limitations.  you need the entire thing to be readable/writable by windows?
[07:06] <Ych> not neccessarily writeable
[07:06] <Ych> but readable
[07:06] <evilghost> Fernand1:  Share the output of lspci and lsmod please.
[07:06] <Ych> I wish i could have it like NTFS, but in reverse
[07:06] <zsh> !fuse
[07:06] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:06] <sethk> Ych, writable in linux and readable in windows.
[07:06] <Ych> read/write in linux, but read only in win
[07:06] <frying_fish> ych, ext2/3 have drivers for windows.
[07:06] <erUSUL> Fernand1: device drivers in linux comes with the dist you can not install win drivers in linux.
[07:06] <sethk> Ych, there are drivers to read ext2 and ext3 in windows
[07:06] <Fernand1> evilghost: HOw do I do that? As I said before, I'm new to linux(like not even a day)
[07:07] <Ych> frying_fish I didn't know that
[07:07] <Killeroid> jrojas: maybe you can parttion the hd inot two partitons,one fat32 and then transfer all your files to it and then finally format the other partition as fat32
[07:07] <Ych> thanks
[07:07] <Ych> sethk, thanks
[07:07] <frying_fish> ych http://fs-driver.org
[07:07] <Killeroid> jrojas: though you have to take into consideration the partiton size limit of fat32
[07:07] <dylan_> Is the madwifi driver non-free?
[07:07] <ramanoar> richiefrich: no good, changed the syncs with mesa, no new resolutions
[07:07] <ramanoar> changed driver to "ati", freezed
[07:07] <ramanoar> changes driver to "r128", freezed
[07:07] <evilghost> Fernand1:  Open up a terminal and type "lspci && lsmod" then copy the output to the clipboard and paste it in using patebin.
[07:07] <Ych> thanx
[07:07] <richiefrich> ramanoarreally
[07:07] <richiefrich> ramanoar really
[07:08] <evilghost> Fernand1:  Here is the link to PasteBin:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:08] <ramanoar> richiefrich: my video card has 32Mb of RAM, could that be of some usage? i put 32768 in VideoRAM on xorg.conf
[07:08] <richiefrich> ramanoar thats odd
[07:08] <ramanoar> richiefrich: i'm going nuts man
[07:08] <ramanoar> nothing works
[07:08] <peace-keeper> what the f.... is nautilus and why does it use 100% cpu all the time ???
[07:08] <richiefrich> ramanoar no man it probs that
[07:08] <ramanoar> and i'm stuck with vesa
[07:08] <richiefrich> ramanoar that blows
[07:08] <Fernand1> evilghost: on it.
[07:08] <Ych> frying_fish, so, i take it i should use ext2 then... not ext3
[07:09] <evilghost> Fernand1:  Cool.
[07:09] <poison> anyone using mythtv on here. If so how hard was it to setup and what tv card do you recommend?
[07:09] <Seveas> peace-keeper, it's the file manager and the thing that draws your desktop
[07:09] <frying_fish> Ych: I use ext3, its readable and writeable in windows
[07:09] <sethk> ramanoar, the ram setting is ignored except for some very old graphics cards
[07:09] <azureal> peace-keeper, nautilus is like the gnome equivalent of file explorer
[07:09] <Ych> ok great
[07:09] <frying_fish> ext3 is just ext2 with a journal
[07:09] <Ych> thanks for the help
[07:09] <Seveas> it shouldn't be using 100% cpu though...
[07:09] <Fernand1> done
[07:09] <azureal> peace-keeper, you must've bugged it
[07:09] <poison> I am running dapper btw.
[07:09] <ramanoar> sethk: any suggestions ?
[07:09] <Fernand1> evilghost: I used "Fernando" as the name
[07:09] <richiefrich> ramanoar  for real man.. all i can say is.. run it with.. knoppix and look at the see what happenes
[07:09] <sergiol> how can i add universe to y system?
[07:09] <sethk> ramanoar, I don't think you've tried my earlier suggestions.
[07:09] <sergiol> sy/my
[07:09] <sergiol> s/y/my
[07:10] <ramanoar> sethk: which ones?
[07:10] <evilghost> Fernand1:  Viewing now.
[07:10] <erUSUL> !repos > sergiol
[07:10] <sethk> ramanoar, running dpkg-reconfigure xerver-xorg, and using the mode where you specify resolutions, not sync rates
[07:10] <Linuturk_code> I've got my laptop running Ubuntu 6.06.1. Every second or so, i get disk useage on the laptop. it isn't connected to the internet or anything, it's just sitting there. Is that normal?
[07:10] <sorush20> hi guys is there a sane program out there that would allow multiply page documents to be saved?
[07:10] <sorush20> sane
[07:11] <ramanoar> sethk: ok, i used that, and chose as for primary resolution 1152x864
[07:11] <richiefrich> ramanoar  or  get kanotix or kororaa
[07:11] <sethk> Linuturk_code, yes, it is checking for a possible automount on your cd
[07:11] <ramanoar> sethk: froze
[07:11] <sethk> ramanoar, what froze, and when?  the reconfigure froze?
[07:11] <evilghost> Fernand1:  That card is running the EMU10K1 modules, is sound currently working?  I believe your card has an EMU10K1 chipset and not the CA0XXXX chipset.
[07:11] <erUSUL> sorush20: what type of docs?
[07:11] <ramanoar> sethk: ubunt
[07:11] <richiefrich> ramanoar all those are liveCD's
[07:11] <ramanoar> nothing worked
[07:11] <Fernand1> okay
[07:11] <ramanoar> had to restart my comp
[07:11] <Fernand1> my sound isn't working right now
[07:11] <Linuturk_code> sethk, ok, thanks. Had me a bit worried.
[07:11] <sorush20> pdf
[07:11] <Fernand1> because I didn't start up my computer with my driver CD inside
[07:11] <sorush20> erUSUL:
[07:11] <ramanoar> richiefrich: if one of them works, what should i do ?
[07:12] <MetaMorfoziS> is there any good tutorial for making an usb pendrive bootable?
[07:12] <evilghost> Fernand1:  Tell me what this 'Driver CD' is?
[07:12] <richiefrich> ramanoar look at there xorg.conf
[07:12] <jrojas> Killeroid, what is the fat32 partition size limit ?
[07:12] <czykista> hi. i'm using gome 2.14 and unable to load most (all?) applets. When i try to load panel applet it gives me:     "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet".       Details: Failed to resolve, or extend '!prefs_key=/apps/panel/profiles/default/applets/mixer    prefs;background=none:;orient=down;size=x-small;locked_down=false"
[07:12] <Fernand1> the CD that came with the sound card
[07:12] <Linuturk_code> MetaMorfoziS, I'm not sure. Make sure your motherboard supports booting to USB though
[07:12] <evilghost> Fernand1:  Can you try running alsa-mixer from the terminal and adjusting the volume for AC'97
[07:12] <richiefrich> ramanoar  and then use that.. and if it still freezes .. then i think it might be the login manager
[07:12] <Fernand1> with windows I Just put it in and it ran the app. it installed the drivers and I was done
[07:12] <ramanoar> richiefrich: hmm... alright, that'll take some time, but i'll try
[07:12] <ramanoar> don't know anything else to do
[07:12] <richiefrich> ramanoar do u know about startx >
[07:12] <MetaMorfoziS> okay, but how to install for example slax fto my pendrive?
[07:13] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i iinstall any os to my usb pendrive?
[07:13] <Fernand1> evilghost: do I Just write 'alsa-mixer' in the terminal?
[07:13] <richiefrich> ramanoar if u drop to console and kill gdm/xdm/kdm
[07:13] <ramanoar> richiefrich: well... i used
[07:13] <evilghost> Fernand1:  Yeah
[07:13] <richiefrich> ramanoar whatever one u use.. and type startx
[07:13] <Killeroid> jrojas:dammit,i forgot but i think its 32 gb
[07:13] <poison> no on is using mythtv?
[07:13] <ramanoar> richiefrich: ok... than i start gnome on my own right ?
[07:13] <stray77> no dash, just alsamixer
[07:13] <richiefrich> ramanoar  and X loads then it is the dm and not X
[07:13] <Fernand1> evilghost: I got 'bash: alsa-mixer: command not found'
[07:14] <richiefrich> ramanoar well yes.. u add it to ~/.xinitrc
[07:14] <richiefrich> ramanoar u want gnome ?
[07:14] <ramanoar> richiefrich: right !
[07:14] <ramanoar> only one i have for now
[07:14] <jrojas> Killeroid: Very thanks..
[07:14] <fredl> there, trouble ticket logged at ATI, dunno if it'll help but if you don't try it it certainly won't help.
[07:14] <evilghost> Fernand1:  Check this out, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=248324&postcount=3
[07:14] <ramanoar> richiefrich: it's been some time i don't use linux... what should i add on .xinitrc ?
[07:14] <evilghost> Fernand1:  It must be alsamixer not alsa-mixer, sorry about that.
[07:14] <richiefrich> ramanoar echo exec  /usr/bin/gnome-session >>  ~/.xinitrc
[07:14] <stuh84> damnit does anyone mind taking me thru all the help i need with this wireless problem in a PM? To recap, in Ubuntu, trying to get wireless to work, have drivers already, tried to dpkg -i them, comes up with "Where is the linux source build directory that matches your running kernel?", and I don't know where to point it. I've installed the linux-headers but thats as far as i've got
[07:14] <Fernand1> oh
[07:14] <Fernand1> okay
[07:15] <ramanoar> ok
[07:15] <evilghost> Fernand1:  I'm away from my Ubuntu machine at the moment and stuck on Win32 at work.
[07:15] <ramanoar> richiefrich: i'll try that now
[07:15] <richiefrich> ramanoar u need to make sure that xdm/gdm/kdm is stopped
[07:15] <richiefrich> ramanoar or it wont load
[07:15] <ramanoar> i know
[07:15] <ramanoar> thanks, be back in sec
[07:15] <Fernand1> evilghost: What do I do in here?
[07:16] <Fernand1> Also, keep in mind that I have some keyboard shortcuts to turn my master volume up and down, and it works fine.
[07:16] <Linuturk_code> at what point does ubuntu consider a laptop battery to be critical?
[07:16] <Linuturk_code> 5%?
[07:16] <evilghost> Fernand1:  "Use the right cursor key to scroll across until you reach the  "Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack". Now press "m" to unmute it."
[07:16] <micro1> simonedrica@hotmail.com
[07:17] <richiefrich> micro1 it that were we send spam too?  LOL  j/k man
[07:17] <Frankenstein> im extracing an .iso file to my hdd from my hdd... would it be alright if i just copy those files directly to cd or do i need to put them back in an .iso for it to be bootable
[07:17] <Papageno> Where can I find the boot floppy (and instructions on how to write the image to a floppy--I'm a mere linux novice) needed for a network install of Ubuntu? Also, is there a similar floppy for Xubuntu? Or, is there a network address I can give the floppy's installer that will have the Xubuntu resources instead of Ubuntu?
[07:18] <Fernand1> evilghost: there isn't even an "Audigy ANalog/Digital Output jack".
[07:18] <evilghost> Frankenstein:  Must be in ISO format to be bootable for the El Torrito boot deal.
[07:18] <Shrimp> i'm back
[07:19] <evilghost> Fernand1:  Is there an AC97 or other volume controls you can adjust such as PCM/etc?
[07:19] <Frankenstein> evilghost, El Torrito?!  what im saying is that when you burn an .iso to cd it just extracts the files to the cd, right? so couldnt i skip having to put all those files in .iso format just to extract them to a cd
[07:19] <dr_willis_> Frankenstein,  a bootable cd has a special file or 2 in a SPECIAL place.
[07:19] <Fernand1> I have something called PCM
[07:19] <Fernand1> but it's not muted
[07:19] <dr_willis_> it dosetn just 'extract' them to the cd.
[07:19] <Fernand1> and it's almost full volume
[07:20] <Ych> if i want to install windows, will GRUB automatically detect the windows partition? or do i have to set something up?
[07:20] <Fernand1> I also have
[07:20] <dr_willis_> Ych,  normally its best to install windows first, then ubuntu
[07:20] <sethk> Ych, automatically,
[07:20] <Ych> well, ubuntus here allready...
[07:20] <Fernand1> IEC958 PLayback AC97-SPSA
[07:20] <sethk> Ych, as long as windows is installed at the time ubuntu install occurs
[07:20] <Frankenstein> dr_willis, well i just dont know what to do... i have an .iso that is 701.2MB and i only have cd-r's that are 700MB... what should i do
[07:20] <Ych> no its not
[07:20] <Ych> i have only ubuntu
[07:20] <Fernand1> ot
[07:20] <sethk> Ych, otherwise you'll have to edit your grub configuration, although that's not difficult
[07:20] <Fernand1> it's not mutable or unmutable*
[07:20] <Ych> ok cool
[07:20] <dr_willis_> Frankenstein,  id fire up k3b or whatever program and tell them to burn. You may be getting confused by rounding issues.
[07:20] <sethk> Ych, install windows on the first partition of primary master
[07:21] <Ych> darn
[07:21] <evilghost> Brb
[07:21] <Ych> my first is used already....
[07:21] <Jamminpotato> i <3 ubuntu
[07:21] <Ych> but i spose i could move stuff around
[07:21] <Ych> with gparted
[07:21] <ramanoar> richiefrich: not the dm
[07:21] <ramanoar> richiefrich: with startx same prob
[07:21] <sethk> Ych, xp tends to do strange things if it isn't on the first partition.  You can try it, see what happens.
[07:21] <Frankenstein> dr_willis, i usually just write click on the .iso file and click write to disc... it says the file is to large and to replace the 700MB cd with a cd that can hold the .iso
[07:21] <Ych> hmmm
[07:21] <sethk> Ych, linux doesn't care which partition or drive it runs from
[07:21] <richiefrich> ramanoar same.. err
[07:21] <Ych> ok, so if i put winxp onto first partition
[07:22] <Ych> and then start my computer
[07:22] <dr_willis_> Frankenstein,  you are using the gnome toaster tool then.. try k3b.
[07:22] <Ych> what will it try to boot?
[07:22] <richiefrich> ramanoar  thats not good at all.. then i'd try the liveCD
[07:22] <Ych> win or grub?
[07:22] <frying_fish> Ych: grub
[07:22] <sethk> Ych, windows, until you reinstall grub
[07:22] <Ych> k cool
[07:22] <Ych> oh
[07:22] <Ych> hmm
[07:22] <frying_fish> as that is in the MBR
[07:22] <ramanoar> richiefrich: other linux's live CD, right?
[07:22] <Ych> and how do i get into grub?
[07:22] <Ych> if its trying to boot win?
[07:22] <richiefrich> ramanoar unless u drop to 8 and not 16 bit
[07:22] <ramanoar> 'cause with ubuntu it's the same
[07:22] <stef_> is there a way to install ubuntu on a 1gb partition? the graphical installer says the partition should be at least 2.4 GB
[07:22] <neraniko> bububuntu
[07:22] <dr_willis_> Grub is one of those tools thts VERY well worth learning all the ins and outs of.
[07:22] <frying_fish> sethk: if grub is in the mbr it will launch into that, not the OS
[07:22] <richiefrich> ramanoar yes other ..
[07:22] <Frankenstein> dr_willis, ill try... havent had problems with the gnome toaster (guess thats what it is) before...
[07:23] <sethk> frying_fish, installing windows replaces the mbr
[07:23] <stef_> is there a way to install ubuntu on a 1gb partition? the graphical installer says the partition should be at least 2.4 GB
[07:23] <ramanoar> richiefrich: oh man, 8 bit =/
[07:23] <ramanoar> i'll try other linux
[07:23] <richiefrich> ramanoar  or  get kanotix or kororaa
[07:23] <dr_willis_> Frankenstein,  or the iso image file is currupted
[07:23] <ramanoar> thanks for the help
[07:23] <richiefrich> ramanoar np man
[07:23] <frying_fish> sethk: ahh well I missed the line about reinstalling windows
[07:23] <Ych> so, how do i get into linux to edit grub then?
[07:23] <Frankenstein> dr_willis, would be my luck... only took 20 hours to download
[07:23] <richiefrich> ramanoar sorry i cant get it started
[07:23] <Elios> who here know alot about samba im realy stuck here
[07:23] <dr_willis_> stef_,  you also want about 256mb-512mb swap
[07:23] <Frankenstein> !samba
[07:23] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:23] <dr_willis_> Frankenstein,  id lean towards the thing being bad.
[07:23] <Elios> yea im a bit passed that
[07:23] <richiefrich> lol
[07:23] <Elios> i have it up and running
[07:24] <Elios> but im having log in gliches
[07:24] <Ych> where exactly is grub?
[07:24] <richiefrich>  /boot
[07:24] <Ych> you think i could access grub from the livecd?
[07:24] <frying_fish> Ych: yes
[07:24] <richiefrich> u can
[07:24] <txx2> Hello. Very simple question; How do I update my ndiswrapper?.. Should I uninstall first?..
[07:24] <Ych> ok
[07:24] <ramanoar> richiefrich: kanotix lite would do the job ?
[07:24] <frying_fish> follow this guide:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RecoveringGrub
[07:24] <txx2> Ych,  /etc/grub i believe.
[07:24] <richiefrich> ramanoar i think so it's like the new knoppix
[07:24] <Ych> well, so i'll gparted around and install win
[07:24] <ramanoar> less time downloading :P
[07:24] <Ych> and if i need help ill be back here
[07:24] <richiefrich> txx2 no not /etc
[07:24] <richiefrich>  /boot/grub
[07:25] <txx2> oh yeah
[07:25] <stef_> is there a way to install ubuntu on a 1gb partition?
[07:25] <richiefrich> txx2   u are on lilo my man
[07:25] <frying_fish> stef_: maybe if you do a server install
[07:25] <richiefrich> txx2 /etc/lilo
[07:25] <richiefrich> :P
[07:25] <txx2> txx2,  nah, i just got it wrong
[07:25] <stef_> frying_fish: how do i do that?
[07:25] <frying_fish> one without X and all its defaults,
[07:25] <frying_fish> stef_: from the alternate cd ...
[07:25] <stef_> i only have the "desktop" cd
[07:25] <richiefrich> txx2 was giving u credit :P
[07:25] <sethk> stef_, you can get it onto 1 gig, but you won't be able to install a large desktop
[07:26] <txx2> richiefrich,  too stupid to understand
[07:26] <stef_> i dont want to install a large desktop, i just want to install the base on a 1gb partition
[07:26] <txx2> (me that is)
[07:26] <kashual> hey
[07:26] <stef_> but the graphical installer wont let me
[07:26] <frying_fish> stef_: don't think the desktop cd willallow it
[07:26] <Fernand1> Hello
[07:26] <Fernand1> Can anyone help me with a sound problem?
[07:26] <frying_fish> since it doesn't do package selection, so get the "alternate" cd.
[07:26] <frying_fish> or sever cd if there is one.
[07:26] <ramanoar> richiefrich: do you know if i have to register to get kanotix?
[07:26] <ramanoar> don't see any file for download
[07:27] <kashual> how can i find any good themes for my gnome desktop which running under ubuntu Hoeger hogar
[07:27] <jman888> Whats wrong with my filesystem http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1fo9.png
[07:27] <Fernand1> My sound doesn't work. Unless I start up my computer with my driver CD inside. I am REALLY new to ubuntu, and I don't know how to install drivers. If it helps, I have a SoundBlaster Audigy 2 Value sound card. And the drivers are in my CD, which comes with a *.exe file. Does anyone know how I can install my drivers without having to start my computer with my Driver CD in my cd tray all the time :( ?
[07:27] <frying_fish> Fernand1: linux won't be using those sound drivers.
[07:27] <sethk> Fernand1, you don't use those drivers
[07:27] <frying_fish> since they are for windows.
[07:27] <sethk> Fernand1, but linux can work with that hardware
[07:28] <lordmule> you mean it works when the computer boots with the CD in?
[07:28] <txx2> How do I uninstall ndisrapper?.. The only relation in synaptic is the ndis utils.
[07:28] <frying_fish> and linux works fine with that hardware.
[07:28] <Fernand1> HOw do I install the proper drivers?
[07:28] <frying_fish> Fernand1: if you have alsa it will have them already
[07:28] <Fernand1> I'm going to need really specific instructions. Beacuse I haven't had linux for even a day
[07:28] <frying_fish> you just need to set up alasamixer to work.
[07:28] <Fernand1> well
[07:28] <Fernand1> I have alsamixer open right now
[07:28] <jman888> Hello? Something is wrong with my Windows(Done by linux) http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1fo9.png
[07:28] <frying_fish> the "drivers" are part of the kernel
[07:28] <frying_fish> Fernand1: does it say audigy 2 up near the top?
[07:29] <sergiol> where can i get LOTS of fonts for ghostcript?
[07:29] <Fernand1> let me see
[07:29] <frying_fish> if not then its probvably trying to use an onboard audio card
[07:29] <sergiol> shotscript
[07:29] <Fernand1> NO
[07:29] <frying_fish> and hence you need to do alsamixer -c1
[07:29] <sergiol> ghotscript
[07:29] <Fernand1> No*
[07:29] <kashual> frying_fish can you tell me who can i get good themes for gnome
[07:29] <Fernand1> it gave me a
[07:29] <dr_willis_> kashual,  theres several dozen themes in the pakcage manager you can install.
[07:29] <haasteem> sethk: i tried to see if booting with another kernel would make a difference, it didn't
[07:30] <frying_fish> Fernand1: open a terminal and type alsamixer
[07:30] <Fernand1> 'no mixer elems found'
[07:30] <Fernand1> oh
[07:30] <frying_fish> ahh well, its not using alsa
[07:30] <Fernand1> I did that
[07:30] <Fernand1> it opened AlsaMixer v1.0.10
[07:30] <sethk> haasteem, you booted your kernel that was working in breezy?
[07:30] <frying_fish> ok, thats correct.
[07:30] <Fernand1> everything seems to be in order
[07:30] <Fernand1> but 'alsamixer -c1' didn't work
[07:30] <frying_fish> but it doesn't see the card? or now everything works?
[07:30] <jman888> Ok well i have Windows Xp and Ubuntu Dual Boot I download system resque and dried making The Ubuntu thing bigger now my pc is screwed. Here is a picture of gparted. http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1fo9.png
[07:30] <haasteem> sethk: yes
[07:30] <Fernand1> now
[07:30] <frying_fish> Fernand1: yeah, you didn't need the -c1
[07:31] <txx2> How do I remove ndiswrapper?
[07:31] <Fernand1> it has card as 'Intel 82801BA-ICH2'
[07:31] <kashual> dr_willis_ synaptic ? ....... i think they brings the defaults
[07:31] <kashual> lol
[07:31] <sethk> haasteem, hmm, I'm surprised.  Let me think about that for a moment.
[07:31] <frying_fish> Fernand1: right, thats using your onboard sound then
[07:31] <Fernand1> oh
[07:31] <Fernand1> HOw do I set it to use my sound card then?
[07:31] <frying_fish> Fernand1: try alsamixer -c 1
[07:31] <stef_> so there's no way to trick the ubuntu desktop CD into letting me install a base system onto a 1gb drive?
[07:31] <frying_fish> there needs to be a space
[07:31] <frying_fish> stef_: probably not.
[07:31] <haasteem> sethk: ok, pcmcia services in my breezy kernel also failed, like it does now in the dapper kernel
[07:31] <richiefrich> clear
[07:31] <Fernand1> 'no mixer elems found'
[07:32] <jman888> I need help. I can no longer read from my Windows Partition.... (Why!)
[07:32] <frying_fish> ok,
[07:32] <frying_fish> we need to find out what it thinks you audigy is
[07:32] <frying_fish> can you type lspci and paste it to pastebin
[07:32] <frying_fish> !pastebin
[07:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:32] <ballchalk> what is gstreamer ugly and bad multiverse?
[07:32] <Fernand1> I have something in pastebin
[07:32] <Fernand1> lspci && something else
[07:32] <frying_fish> ok, whats the url
[07:32] <Fernand1> it's called Fernando
[07:33] <frying_fish> give me the link
[07:33] <Fernand1> looking for it
[07:33] <frying_fish> I'm not trawling around
[07:33] <Fernand1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20990
[07:34] <frying_fish> ok, so it sees the audigy
[07:34] <frying_fish> Fernand1: you have a usb soundcard thing?
[07:34] <kashual> :o)
[07:34] <Fernand1> uhh
[07:34] <Fernand1> what usb soundcard thing???
[07:34] <frying_fish> or has it just stuck those lines on the same thing.
[07:35] <frying_fish> nm, it put them on the same line, right
[07:35] <Fernand1> I don't have anything about sound on my USB
[07:35] <redphoenix1> hello
[07:35] <frying_fish> Fernand1: nevermind.
[07:35] <frying_fish> Fernand1: right try alsamixer -c 0
[07:35] <frying_fish> then 2, 3, 4, etc until you find anumber that doesn't give you the intel, but does give you the audigy
[07:35] <Fernand1> k
[07:35] <Fernand1> that worked
[07:36] <Fernand1> it still sees my onboard card though
[07:36] <Fernand1> oh
[07:36] <Fernand1> k
[07:36] <Fernand1> ALright, it worked with c2
[07:36] <frying_fish> yeah, I am just trying to find a way to set it to something other than that
[07:36] <Fernand1> it sees my Audigy card
[07:36] <frying_fish> right, so card 2 is the audigy
[07:37] <frying_fish> set all the volumes up
[07:37] <frying_fish> now I am going to find how to set that as the default card
[07:37] <snoops> hey frying_fish when I use the history tool in bash to output the history list to a file, it seems to only output the first 501 lines (history -w filename), but when I just type history.. I get 552 lines. Any reason why that is?
[07:37] <redphoenix1> um i need help after i did a custom kernel install my wired network interface turned to arp and not eth0 also my wireless turned to ath0_ifrename any one know what could be wrong. it still goes on even if i use ubuntu stock kernel
[07:37] <snoops> I could I could pipe it to a file.. but wondering why this is the case
[07:37] <frying_fish> snoops: pass.
[07:37] <uber_mort> Anyone want to help with some ATI driver problems? :)  The drivers are working for 2D, but it seems as though the DRI modules fail to load for 3D.
[07:38] <snoops> any idea on the room to ask that kinda quesiton in?
[07:38] <snoops> I'll try #bash
[07:38] <jsilva> Hi, how can I stop the upgrade for compiled .deb packages?
[07:38] <Kyral_Laptop> snoops: I missed the question
[07:38] <munsa> Anyone in here that could help me set up XGL?
[07:39] <haasteem> sethk: i ran kernel 2.6.12-10 in breezy and now for dapper i have kernel 2.6.15-26
[07:39] <void^> !xgl
[07:39] <munsa> I would really appriciate it
[07:39] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:40] <redphoenix1> can someone help?
[07:40] <snoops> Kyral_Laptop hmm?
[07:40] <Kyral_Laptop> your bash question?
[07:40] <frying_fish> ahh Fernand1 I just found an easier way to have figured out what card was which "cat /proc/asound/cards"
[07:40] <Fernand1> k
[07:40] <uber_mort> Anyone want to help with some ATI driver problems? :)  The drivers are working for 2D, but it seems as though the DRI modules fail to load for 3D.
[07:41] <Fernand1> :P
[07:41] <Fernand1> alright
[07:41] <Fernand1> anyway
[07:41] <Fernand1> 0 is my onboard, 2 is my audigy
[07:41] <ucordes> hey my synaptic doesn't start:  error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4 .what's wrong?
[07:42] <frying_fish> Fernand1: yes, right try alsactl store 2
[07:42] <peace-keeper> the best about linux is that although many things you try dont work, there are always 1000 other things to try
[07:42] <snoops> Kyral_Laptop yeah it was about 7 lines above "I'll try #bash"
[07:42] <Fernand1> ALright, I got 'alsactl: save_state:1190: Cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for writing'
[07:42] <Kyral_Laptop> snoops: you know how much buffer has gone past :P
[07:42] <frying_fish> Fernand1: may need sudo
[07:43] <frying_fish> sudo alsactl store 2
[07:43] <CraZy675> How do I enable the package manager to download firefox in kubuntu?
[07:43] <snoops> Kyral_Laptop k I'll paste again
[07:43] <Kyral_Laptop> CraZy675: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[07:43] <Fernand1> k
[07:43] <Fernand1> I don't really get any message
[07:43] <CraZy675> Kyral_Laptop: that doesn't seem to work either
[07:43] <snoops> Kyral_Laptop when I use the history tool in bash to output the history list to a file, it seems to only output the first 501 lines (history -w filename), but when I just type history.. I get 552 lines. Any reason why that is?
[07:44] <CraZy675> oh mozilla-firefox i was just trying firefox
[07:44] <Kyral_Laptop> snoops: hmm
[07:44] <Fernand1> It asked me for my password, I inputted it, nothing happened, now it's back to letting me give it another command
[07:44] <uber_mort> Anyone want to help with some ATI driver problems? :)  The drivers are working for 2D, but it seems as though the DRI modules fail to load for 3D.
[07:44] <CraZy675> but its greyed out in the gui package manager
[07:44] <Kyral_Laptop> snoops: one, the historyfile should already be there, as ~/.bash_history
[07:44] <snoops> yeah
[07:45] <snoops> that also contains 501 lines
[07:45] <Kyral_Laptop> hmm.....
[07:45] <donrosin> what shall i do after i have used the make command when installing apache? PMMMMM
[07:45] <[jb] > where is located the file with a list of valid services available for users?
[07:45] <frying_fish> donrosin: make install
[07:45] <Kyral_Laptop> donrosin: read the README.txt for apache :P
[07:45] <stuh84> Does anyone mind taking me thru all the help i need with this wireless problem? To recap, in Ubuntu, trying to get wireless to work, have drivers already, tried to dpkg -i them, comes up with "Where is the linux source build directory that matches your running kernel?", and I don't know where to point it. I've installed the linux-headers once, thats as far as I've got, and now ubuntu wouldn't start, so I'm reinstalling it......
[07:45] <Kyral_Laptop> snoops: lemme take a look at my .bashrc
[07:45] <jrojas> how can i reinstall firefox using apt-get ?
[07:45] <donrosin> frying_fish,  i have used that to
[07:46] <frying_fish> donrosin: then it is installed.
[07:46] <Kyral_Laptop> jrojas: sudo apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox
[07:46] <frying_fish> and anyway, why not use the apache that is in apt?
[07:46] <snoops> if I try history -w or history -a to make sure the history file is up to date, then read it again, it's still 501 lines, but the lines at the top were replaced by ones a few lines down.. because a few lines were added since last time
[07:46] <Kyral_Laptop> snoops: try changing the HIST variables in .bashrc
[07:46] <Kyral_Laptop> snoops: man bash to find out the right thing to set
[07:46] <donrosin> frying_fish,  do you know a good ftp sever?
[07:47] <jrojas> Kyral_Laptop: Thanks.. :D
[07:47] <haasteem> sethk: if you need some more info, please let me know
[07:47] <frying_fish> donrosin: nope.
[07:47] <Kyral_Laptop> Jeez I don't even use Ubuntu anymore. Damn I am good :P
[07:47] <snoops> but why would history -w filename or ~/.bash_history give different results ( this 501 line strangness ) instead of just typing "history" because that includes line numbers
[07:47] <donrosin> I need a good an easy ftp server? PM ME!!
[07:47] <Gustry> french people here ?
[07:47] <frying_fish> Kyral_Laptop: you don't happen to know what file you edit to change which soundcard is referenced as 0 do you.
[07:47] <Kyral_Laptop> snoops: Dunno
[07:48] <Kyral_Laptop> frying_fish: IIRC I just disable the onboard sound and that makes ALSA see the soundcard as 0
[07:48] <Fernand1> alright guys
[07:48] <frying_fish> Its just that its escaping me atm, I did it a while back and Fernand1 needs it.
[07:48] <Fernand1> frying_fish: I'm going to restart my PC and try something. ONe sec
[07:48] <sebastien> hi, is somebody have a dlink dsl 320t ?
[07:48] <frying_fish> Kyral_Laptop: yeah that works, but I did it to stop my webcams one doing the same.
[07:48] <frying_fish> Fernand1: turn off onboard sound in bios
[07:48] <frying_fish> fk
[07:48] <Kyral_Laptop> frying_fish: I know nada about webcams :P
[07:49] <frying_fish> Kyral_Laptop: yeah, the point was that it was trying to set its soundcard as default
[07:49] <Gassed> Anyone good with DosEMU?
[07:49] <frying_fish> I managed to create some config file that just made it see my soundcard as defualt and the webcams one as secondary
[07:49] <frying_fish> can't remember where though
[07:49] <lwizardl> in ubuntu where is the openssh server ? i'm trying to make sure its restarted
[07:49] <frying_fish> lwizardl: /etc/init.d/sshd restart?
[07:50] <lwizardl> not found
[07:50] <frying_fish> lwizardl: maybe its just ssh
[07:50] <frying_fish> /etc/init.d/ssh restart then
[07:50] <lwizardl> yup that was it thanks
[07:50] <Gustry> what is the channel or french people ?
[07:51] <Kyral_Laptop> !fr
[07:51] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:51] <Gustry>  /join #ubuntu-fr
[07:51] <Gustry> oki merci
[07:51] <juanpe> hola soy juanpe amistad
[07:51] <CheetahMk2> Is it just me, or is apt-index-watcher in Edgy Eft one heck of a resource hog?
[07:52] <CheetahMk2> Every ten seconds, CPU usage spikes and I think it's the culrit based on running TOP.
[07:52] <Jamminpotato> i just tried to setup a persistant live cd install following the directions in o'reilly's ubuntu hacks but right after it uncompresses and load the kernel it says it has an i/o error on hdc and says theres something wrong wit hone of the blocks? what am i doing wrong.
[07:52] <Jman8888> How can i back up my entire ubuntu installation like to a dvd or a ssh server or ftp.
[07:52] <apallo19> i;m having trouble mounting a windows share, could someone help?
[07:53] <Jman8888> apallo. I messed up my Xp share when doin that... Thats why im backing up so i can reset
[07:53] <Kyral_Laptop> Jman8888: in a LiveCD just tarball the entire thing and transfer it to the FTP or SCP server
[07:53] <Gassed> I'm having trouble trying to get DOSEmu to run, can someone help me?
[07:53] <Kyral_Laptop> Gassed: sorry I have never used DOSEmu
[07:54] <CheetahMk2> Kyral_Laptop: there's got to be a way to do it live, without going into a LiveCD
[07:54] <Gassed> Kyral_Laptop: Ok
[07:54] <dudus> Jman8888: the best way might be to tar gzip and split
[07:54] <Kyral_Laptop> CheetahMk2: Oh thats just the quickest way
[07:54] <CheetahMk2> Yeah, I guess so...
[07:54] <Kyral_Laptop> dudus: if he is using a FTP Server or SSH Server then he can just send it completely
[07:54] <Kyral_Laptop> or hell pull some rsync magic for an incremental update
[07:54] <Jman8888> K Thats what google said to do... Just wanted to know my options. Im gonna get this right!
[07:55] <Jman8888> bye
[07:55] <deep__> How can i check how much space every harddrive is using / how much space is left?
[07:55] <biggie_> hello
[07:55] <Kyral_Laptop> deep__: df -h
[07:55] <Kyral_Laptop> in a console
[07:55] <abhinay> how to install compiz themes ?
[07:55] <dudus> Kyral_Laptop , Jman8888 sure , just split if needed to get into media
[07:55] <biggie_> how do i restore the clock box on the panel
[07:55] <deep__> Ah, thanx. :)
[07:55] <Kyral_Laptop> biggie_: right click on the panel, select "Add To Panel" or somesuch and find the clock applett
[07:55] <redphoenix1> um i need help after i did a custom kernel install my wired network interface turned to arp and not eth0 also my wireless turned to ath0_ifrename any one know what could be wrong. it still goes on even if i use ubuntu stock kernel
[07:56] <Jman8888> My ubuntus acctually been on 1 day. Been using for a year plus but i messed it up by trieng to dual with xp
[07:56] <Jman8888> Also on my other pc gdm doesnt wanna start
[07:56] <biggie_> how do i restore the clock box on the panel
[07:56] <Kyral_Laptop> biggie_: I just TOLD you
[07:56] <Netcad> I searched for a way to make sshd ignore an ip/host after 3 failed attempts to prevent dictionary attacks, but I couldn't find the option in sshd_config nor ssh_config files. google has something about a script to add the ip/host to hosts.deny or something (which I didn't understand clearly). Do you know of any such way ?
[07:56] <bobovski> hello again all, I have a second hard drive in my computer. I'd like to format it with an ext2 filesystem and use it. How do i format a hard disk drive in ubuntu?
[07:56] <eobanb> right click > add to panel
[07:57] <biggie_> cant find that applet
[07:57] <Gassed> I'm having trouble trying to get DOSEmu to run, can someone help me?
[07:57] <Kyral_Laptop> bobovski: first open the terminal
[07:57] <Kyral_Laptop> bobovski: actually PM might be better
[07:57] <eobanb> bobovski, System > Administration > Disks
[07:57] <Kyral_Laptop> meh I dig the terminal method
[07:57] <kgeffert> Netcad: there is a package for it, its called hostsdeny, and its in edgy but not dapper.
[07:57] <Kyral_Laptop> mke2fs FTW
[07:57] <TisMe> bobobski: Use GParted or fdisk
[07:57] <kgeffert> Netcad, or denyhosts... one of the two :P
[07:57] <Kyral_Laptop> oh and bobovski ext3 is superior to ext2
[07:58] <bobovski> ah, ok. ext3 it is
[07:58] <Kyral_Laptop> though you can convert between them at will
[07:58] <Kyral_Laptop> (a unique property between ext2 and ext3)
[07:58] <bobovski> Kyral_Laptop: how would I do it in the terminal, for future reference?
[07:58] <Kyral_Laptop> bobovski: mind a pm?
[07:58] <frying_fish> bobovski: fdisk to get the disk formatted, following its options
[07:58] <bobovski> Kyral_Laptop: not at all
[07:59] <Kyral_Laptop> okay here comes the quick way
[07:59] <thx4help> any good utilities to clone a ubuntu drive?
[07:59] <frying_fish> actually, I don't know what the equivalent of mkreiserfs is for ext3
[07:59] <frying_fish> having never made it manually
[07:59] <Kyral_Laptop> frying_fish: mke2fs -j
[07:59] <Warbo> thx4help: "man dd"
[07:59] <gbauman> frying_fish: or mkfs.ext3
[07:59] <frying_fish> Kyral_Laptop: ahh.
[07:59] <Kyral_Laptop> the -j option adds a Journal to ext2 (making it ext3)
[08:00] <frying_fish> only wish reiserfs had a working windows driver
[08:00] <klerfayt> how is resolved the password problem in pc's with preloaded ubuntu?
[08:00] <Kyral_Laptop> bobovski: okay open a terminal, now (all this is as root), make a partition using fdisk or whatever tool you prefer, then mke2fs -j /dev/<partition>
[08:00] <Geoffrey2> I am presuming that in Ubuntu I would want to download a .tar.gz file rather than .rpm?
[08:00] <kjm> klerfayt : What "password problem"?
[08:00] <frying_fish> klerfayt: repeat, with better grammar and more explanation.
[08:01] <kjm> Geoffrey2 : either - you can use alien to install an rpm.  A .deb is best.
[08:01] <Kyral_Laptop> Geoffrey2: after making sure it isn't in the repos
[08:01] <Fernand1> frying_fish: I'm still having the soundn problem :(
[08:01] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: It is usually best. You may want to install build-essential and checkinstall
[08:01] <frying_fish> Geoffrey2: or a .deb if its available
[08:01] <frying_fish> Fernand1: yeah, did you turn off the onboard sound in the bios?
[08:01] <bobovski> Kyral_Laptop: ok, then f disk will erase the partition then install an ext2 file system with that command. I see, thanks!
[08:01] <tuxtux> ciao
[08:01] <frying_fish> and atm Fernand1 we didn't set your sound card to be the default one.
[08:01] <Kyral_Laptop> bobovski: it will make an ext3
[08:01] <bobovski> er, ext 2 with journal
[08:01] <bobovski> yes
[08:01] <gbauman> Geoffrey2: If no deb is available, "apt-get install fakeroot alien", "fakeroot alien some_file.rpm", "sudo dpkg -i some_file.deb"
[08:01] <frying_fish> try hooking the cables to the other one for now to see if sound comes out of it then
[08:01] <klerfayt> kjm: if they setup for you then how they avoid using the same password?
[08:01] <frying_fish> and eventually we can look at finding how to set it as the default one.
[08:02] <Kyral_Laptop> bobovski: make sure you understand fdisk and all the options in mke2fs
[08:02] <Fernand1> alright
[08:02] <Fernand1> thank you
[08:02] <Fernand1> oh
[08:02] <Fernand1> one more thing
[08:02] <Kyral_Laptop> bobovski: I'd suggest reading the manual pages at your leasure
[08:02] <kjm> klerfayt : same password for what?
[08:02] <frying_fish> Fernand1: first, try turning off the onboard sound in the bios if you don't need it.
[08:02] <Warbo> If source is available then it is better than an RPM, in case the RPM has been compiled for different GCC, Glib, etc.
[08:02] <Fernand1> is it possible to set up compiz and xgl on ubuntu
[08:02] <Kyral_Laptop> !xgl
[08:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:02] <bobovski> Kyral_Laptop: yeah, I've had one encounter before with fdisk :) I'll definitely pour over the man pages
[08:02] <Geoffrey2> kjm, ok, a .deb is best if available...if not would I better off with the .rpm or the .tar.gz?
[08:02] <bobovski> thanks all!
[08:02] <Kyral_Laptop> bobovski: no problem
[08:02] <Fernand1> I have an ATI Radeon 9200 video card though
[08:02] <klerfayt> kjm: sudo password
[08:02] <bobovski> Thanks Kyral_Laptop
[08:02] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: The RPM is easiest, but the tar.gz is the better method
[08:02] <Kyral_Laptop> Geoffrey2: the tarball
[08:02] <frying_fish> Fernand1: don't know
[08:03] <Kyral_Laptop> Warbo: Nuhuh
[08:03] <frying_fish> haven't tried with that card
[08:03] <Kyral_Laptop> Warbo: Ubuntu is Debian based, hence RPMS are a pain in the tush (they are a pain on distros that use them anyway)
[08:03] <Kyral_Laptop> Holy netsplit batman!
[08:04] <Kyral_Laptop> good lord....
[08:04] <frying_fish> netsplit?
[08:04] <Kyral_Laptop> OYAH!
[08:04] <frying_fish> kaboooooooom!!!
[08:04] <Kyral_Laptop> This is one of the worse Splits I have ever seen on Freenode
[08:04] <gbauman> it's like watching the channel compile
[08:04] <SurfnKid> kawhat?
[08:04] <SurfnKid> boom boom boom?
[08:04] <Kyral_Laptop> Netsplit
[08:04] <SurfnKid> gbauman, haha yeah
[08:04] <SurfnKid> burp
[08:04] <Kyral_Laptop> it has to do with how IRC works
[08:04] <Geoffrey2> wow, that was....um, interesting
[08:04] <SurfnKid> t
[08:04] <SurfnKid> h
[08:05] <SurfnKid> i
[08:05] <SurfnKid> s
[08:05] <SurfnKid> l
[08:05] <SurfnKid> o
[08:05] <Kyral_Laptop> Okay quick lesson on Netsplits
[08:05] <SurfnKid> o
[08:05] <SurfnKid> k
[08:05] <gbauman> get on up... and DANCE
[08:05] <SurfnKid> s
[08:05] <SurfnKid> c
[08:05] <SurfnKid> o
[08:05] <SurfnKid> o
[08:05] <Kyral_Laptop> You know IRC is an interconnected network of servers right?
[08:05] <SurfnKid> l
[08:05] <frying_fish> don't say anything until its finished reconnecting everyone
[08:05] <SurfnKid> lol
[08:05] <SurfnKid> Kyral_Laptop, i didnt know that
[08:05] <Fernand1> frying_fish: how do I deactivate my onboard card?
[08:06] <frying_fish> Fernand1: in the BIOS, when you turn the pc on,
[08:06] <Kyral_Laptop> well, a Netsplit occurs when a server loses its link ot the others
[08:06] <Guyvere> hey guys
[08:06] <Guyvere> wowzer...
[08:06] <Guyvere> can i aska  question freely?
[08:06] <gbauman> shoot
[08:06] <Kyral_Laptop> evertone okay?
[08:06] <SurfnKid> is everyone back ? and ready?
[08:06] <Kyral_Laptop> Guyvere: yah
[08:06] <Fernand1> k
[08:06] <Guyvere> ok,  so i am brand new to Ubuntu and just got the disk
[08:06] <Fernand1> thank you so much
[08:06] <Fernand1> good-bye
[08:06] <SurfnKid> say something people!!!
[08:06] <Kyral_Laptop> Freenode just freaked out for a second
[08:06] <Geoffrey2> hmm, does Freenode actually have that many servers?
[08:06] <SurfnKid> dont die on me
[08:07] <Guyvere> i want to install without loading the live CD is there a  way to do that?
[08:07] <gbauman> Geoffrey2: Those were all users, not servers
[08:07] <Kyral_Laptop> Guyvere: unn no
[08:07] <redphoenix1> um i need help after i did a custom kernel install my wired network interface turned to arp and not eth0 also my wireless turned to ath0_ifrename any one know what could be wrong. it still goes on even if i use ubuntu stock kernel
[08:07] <FurryNemesis> Guyvere, try the alternate install cd
[08:07] <Guyvere> hrmph,  ok thanks guys
[08:07] <Kyral_Laptop> redphoenix1: can you still use those interfaces?
[08:07] <Kyral_Laptop> 
[08:07] <TheGateKeeper> Guyvere: Windows to Ubuntu Transition Guide:http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/917/
[08:07] <Kyral_Laptop> 
[08:07] <Geoffrey2> gbauman, I realize that......a netsplit obviously implies at least two servers...how many does it actually have?
[08:07] <Kyral_Laptop> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[08:07] <Kyral_Laptop> Netsplitts explained
[08:07] <Guyvere> yea,  i saw that gatekeeper
[08:07] <ccc_> Geoffrey2: 19 servers
[08:08] <Kyral_Laptop> in the Wikipedia Link I just posted
[08:08] <rosh1182> I have a epson cx6400 printer that I want to setup using a USB connection.  In Windows, the USB connection is seen, but when I boot Ubuntu with the printer plugged in, and type lsusb, it is not detected, where can I look for errors?
[08:08] <Kyral_Laptop> Good lord
[08:08] <FurryNemesis> the heck?
[08:08] <CheetahMk2> "Wow, everyone's logging on at the same time!"
[08:08] <Kyral_Laptop> it ain't over yet
[08:08] <Guyvere> i was just wodering if there was a way to install without the live Cd
[08:08] <SurfnKid> CheetahMk2, hehe
[08:08] <SurfnKid> CheetahMk2, how do they all organize themselves to do so?
[08:08] <Warbo> I couldn't reconnect because "the server is full - try later". Probably the same problem for them
[08:08] <FurryNemesis> Guyvere, there is: use the alternate install cd image that you can dl from ubuntu.com
[08:08] <txx2> what's going on with the irc channel?
[08:08] <gbauman> Geoffrey2: http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml
[08:08] <Kyral_Laptop> Netsplit
[08:08] <Kyral_Laptop> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[08:08] <SurfnKid> txx2, somet cyclone is shakin 'em up
[08:08] <FurryNemesis> and wikipedia is down too
[08:09] <Geoffrey2> this is the maddening part of a netsplit, the channel basically becomes useless for several minutes while all the join messages fly past :)
[08:09] <txx2> FurryNemesis,  paste bin wasn't working
[08:09] <FurryNemesis> ah
[08:09] <FurryNemesis> ouch
[08:09] <CheetahMk2> Geoffrey2: what join messages? ; )
[08:09] <CheetahMk2> ho ho ho
[08:09] <CheetahMk2> (you can turn them off if you want)
[08:09] <FurryNemesis> we're not going to have a repeat of when the repos went are we?
[08:10] <rosh1182> I'll repost so that it will get past the flood of join messages
[08:10] <FurryNemesis> on top of all this?
[08:10] <rosh1182> I have a epson cx6400 printer that I want to setup using a USB connection.  In Windows, the USB connection is seen, but when I boot Ubuntu with the printer plugged in, and type lsusb, it is not detected, where can I look for errors?
[08:10] <Kyral_Laptop> FurryNemesis: the repos are on a different server
[08:10] <txx2> CheetahMk2,  using xchat and don't know how to turn off joins/exits
[08:10] <Warbo> This channel was probably most "popular" when the repos went down :)
[08:10] <FurryNemesis> Kyral_Laptop, yes, but everything seems to be crashing down around my ears today
[08:10] <grogoreo> hi
[08:10] <Kyral_Laptop> I should really add a trigger to Irssi that disables Netsplit join/parts
[08:10] <SurfnKid> i bet that CME has something to do with Netsplit
[08:10] <CheetahMk2> well, according to this I'm running IRSSI
[08:10] <CheetahMk2> but I'm running a UPP mIrc script, Win32
[08:11] <nkayhan> Ok, so I have a question, why is there no sound while using flash player in Firefox?
[08:11] <CheetahMk2> So I can't help you with directions on turning messages off
[08:11] <Kyral_Laptop> nkayhan: dunno
[08:11] <sorush20> hi guys I have just created a large .tiff file and it has lots of images inside .. but what do I view the internal images and pages with?
[08:11] <SurfnKid> nkayhan, cuz flash doesnt like linux
[08:11] <CheetahMk2> Isn't there some new Flash thing for linux?
[08:11] <SurfnKid> nkayhan, is it ver8 or ver9
[08:11] <Warbo> nkayhan: It is badly made, and not open source so we can't fix it
[08:11] <txx2> CheetahMk2,  win32?.. that is the devils OS.
[08:11] <grogoreo> is there a mail server which offers SMTP and IMAP without all of the setting up? I've tried Postfix+Courier+every other combination but it ends up being too complicated. I've tried Hula but that just doesn't work
[08:11] <nkayhan> Surfnkid:7
[08:11] <SurfnKid> txx2, woord
[08:11] <haasteem> sethk: has it become clear to you what the problem might be?
[08:11] <CheetahMk2> pengiun chicks, that is
[08:11] <CheetahMk2> ho ho ho
[08:12] <tanlaan> Anyone have some ideas why when I changed the xorg.conf file so it should work *I'm on an iMac G3* that when I restart gdm, it wont start up, it "fails"
[08:12] <Warbo> penguin chicks are cold, even with all of those feathers
[08:12] <txx2> Warbo,  hot inside though ;)
[08:12] <CheetahMk2> Warbo: that's why you put them INSIDE the toaster.
[08:12] <SurfnKid> CheetahMk2, i just had a visual of the 4 pengiuns from the Christmas Movie, the ones from Madagascar
[08:12] <CheetahMk2> (references miniitxpc.com)
[08:12] <nkayhan> surfnkid: I didn't think you could get 8/9 yet
[08:13] <Warbo> nkayhan: You can run the Windows versions
[08:13] <FurryNemesis> it's 7 atm no?
[08:13] <SurfnKid> nkayhan, oh i dunno actually, just know 9 is out but not sure if for linux
[08:13] <txx2> could someone help me?.. I really need help :( http://pastebin.com/771416
[08:13] <Kyral_Laptop> Jeez...what the heck happened?
[08:13] <nkayhan> warbo: realy like with wine?
[08:13] <SurfnKid> Warbo, the 8 and 9 versions will run on linux?
[08:13] <Kyral_Laptop> this is a huge netsplit
[08:13] <lens> oh the new xchat for gnome, how the heck do you disable the coming and going and all that stuff, it's annoying.
[08:13] <Warbo> nkayhan: Yes (although Firefox crashes in WINE for me)
[08:13] <FurryNemesis> lens, race you to a solution
[08:14] <tanlaan> say AHH! why are so many people joining???
[08:14] <Kyral_Laptop> Netsplit
[08:14] <SurfnKid> lens, no one thought of that, SUGGESTION BOX!%
[08:14] <Comrade-Sergei> is there a ubuntu deb for calling landline phones cause my skype doent work for some reason?
[08:14] <txx2> http://pastebin.com/771416 please help someone.. thank you.
[08:14] <Geoffrey2> I was looking at the Adobe website, and realized the version of Acrobat Reader in the Ubuntu repos is a good year and several updates out of date....
[08:14] <nkayhan> warbo, but not natively, it's a shame 'cause I love goowy email which is in Flash 8
[08:14] <hector> que honda
[08:14] <Kyral_Laptop> Someone should add an explaination of the NetSplit in ubotu
[08:14] <SurfnKid> netsplit hector que onda
[08:15] <hector> que hongo
[08:15] <hector> aqui tirando un rocanrrol
[08:15] <hector> oigan una pregunta
[08:15] <FurryNemesis> Comrade-Sergei, tried re-installing?
[08:15] <SurfnKid> aqui tambien
[08:15] <hector> estoy muy buey para linux
[08:15] <Warbo> nkayhan: I am addicted to Newgrounds, but I think Adobe might have tightened their anti-piracy measures, since most of the stuff on there plays with Flash 7
[08:15] <SurfnKid> hector entra a #ubuntu-es
[08:15] <hector> alguien sabe como instalo el amsn
[08:15] <SurfnKid> aqui es puro ingles
[08:15] <SurfnKid> hector  sudo apt-get install amsn
[08:15] <Comrade-Sergei> Furry Nemesis i think it has to do with my sound which work sfine for other things anyways
[08:16] <nkayhan> warbo, but you don't think you can help with my sound problem?
[08:16] <Comrade-Sergei> FurryNemesis ^^^
[08:16] <lens> FirryNemesiis, SurrfnKid...seriously? you cant turn all that junk off?  That's lame, I swithing to xchat.
[08:16] <hector> muchisimas gracias
[08:16] <hector> deja calo
[08:16] <Warbo> nkayhan: There is apparently an ALSA wrapper for Firefox, but I don't know what it is
[08:16] <Geoffrey2> "supposedly" Flash 9 will "eventually" come out for Linux....but then for a long them they were promising Flash 8.5 would as well, and I'm sure everyone has updated to Flash 8.5 for Linux by now ;)
[08:16] <SurfnKid> im ON xchat :P
[08:16] <SurfnKid> hector, sobres
[08:16] <Kyral_Laptop> Jeez you know that you are an IRC Vet when you don't find Netsplits annoying, just a fact of life
[08:16] <FurryNemesis> Comrade-Sergei, but you can start it up?
[08:17] <SurfnKid> Kyral_Laptop, thats right, no wonder i was noticing something funny, that i hadnt nagged hehe
[08:17] <greyscale> I just began the monumental task of changing IP ranges. And now a computer (192.168.0.252) won't connect to it (for reasons that are clear). I can't use GKSU or SUDO because /etc/sudoers should be 0444 not 0777
[08:17] <greyscale> Solutions please
[08:17] <lens> SurfnKid... no shit... I don't see how anyone could keep up with all this junk.
[08:17] <Geoffrey2> Kyral_Laptop, I used to surf Dalnet...trust me, I'm VERY familiar with what a netsplit is :)
[08:17] <hector> hermano te debo una
[08:17] <SurfnKid> lens, if you think netsplit is hard to keep up
[08:17] <Kyral_Laptop> Geoffrey2: Undernet here
[08:17] <Comrade-Sergei> FurryNemesis  yes and now my sound isnt working at all
[08:17] <SurfnKid> lens, try watching everyone talk at the same time
[08:17] <hector> creo que ya se esta instalando
[08:17] <SurfnKid> hector, de nax
[08:17] <Comrade-Sergei> which scares me cause it just did
[08:18] <FurryNemesis> Comrade-Sergei, not even for anything else?
[08:18] <utab> TheGateKeeper: hello
[08:18] <Comrade-Sergei> FurryNemesis  well amarok and gtkpod...
[08:18] <hector> perdon una ultima pregunta
[08:18] <SurfnKid> this is worse than a second or thrid tsunami wave
[08:18] <SurfnKid> hector, echala
[08:18] <hector> ya se corrio y se instalo
[08:18] <hector> ahora como lo saco al escritorio
[08:18] <vicscandl> !ipod > vicscandl
[08:18] <fyrestrtr> !es
[08:18] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:18] <TheGateKeeper> hi utab did you sort your problems out?
[08:18] <SurfnKid> en applications> internet> amsn
[08:19] <greyscale> I just began the monumental task of changing IP ranges. And now a computer (192.168.0.252) won't connect to it (for reasons that are clear). I can't use GKSU or SUDO because /etc/sudoers should be 0444 not 0777. How do I fix this so I can use network-admin to change IP on it? (its using static) Solutions?
[08:19] <utab> TheGateKeeper: I was busy with a paper and now finished
[08:19] <Kyral_Laptop> Jeez how many servers delinked for crying out loud
[08:19] <nkayhan> spanish and netsplits, it's almost comical
[08:19] <SurfnKid> nkayhan, haha
[08:19] <FurryNemesis> Comrade-Sergei, could be a codec problem
[08:19] <utab> TheGateKeeper: still update problems
[08:19] <hector> no ahi no aparecio
[08:19] <SurfnKid> nkayhan, its almost as if we were trying to get an IRC channel to work
[08:19] <coolaid> would k7 kernel perhaps give me wlan card issues,cannot activate
[08:19] <coolaid> anyone :)
[08:19] <Comrade-Sergei> it wiped all my sound from my pfers! FurryNemesis!
[08:20] <TheGateKeeper> utab: didn't you have a breezy installation you wanted to upgrade to dapper?
[08:20] <nkayhan> surfnKid: yea I know how that can be
[08:20] <Kyral_Laptop> coolaid: it prolly won't change a darn thing :P
[08:20] <SurfnKid> hector, abre una ventana virtual (VT) y pon aMsn <enter> y ahi te sale
[08:20] <greyscale> anyone at all
[08:20] <greyscale> ?
[08:20] <utab> TheGateKeeper: yes
[08:20] <FurryNemesis> Comrade-Sergei, you have totally no sound? not even error beeps?
[08:20] <Comrade-Sergei> FurryNemesis i dont hear anything since i just put skype on
[08:20] <FurryNemesis> is your soundcard being picked up?
[08:20] <utab> TheGateKeeper: I could not sort my problem out
[08:20] <TheGateKeeper> utab have you installed stuff from the apper repos on it?
[08:21] <utab> TheGateKeeper : no
[08:21] <coolaid> Shite,having issues cannot activate a known good asustek usb wifi adapter,it just hangs.....and pci card will not activate.
[08:21] <richiefrich> TheGateKeeper hello there
[08:21] <nkayhan> greyscale: this is wayover my head
[08:21] <SurfnKid> fyrestrtr, that was hectors last question i was helpin him out with, told him to go to the spanish chahnn too
[08:21] <lens> SurfnKid: I'm switching back to xchat, until whoever made this program gets the little hings fixed... kinda like how "abiword" said... oops!  we forgot to put in a grammar checker!  ARGGG.
[08:21] <richiefrich> TheGateKeeper  u fix  that smgl ?
[08:21] <coolaid> any tutorials for me to view?
[08:21] <hector> ok muchisimas gracias
[08:21] <SurfnKid> hah
[08:21] <greyscale> nkayhan, Well, ubuntu broke and no one has enough experiance to fix it.
[08:21] <SurfnKid> hector, de nax, funciono?
[08:22] <Jhair> !spanish
[08:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:22] <Geoffrey2> don't you just love people who design a website, make sure it looks great in IE, and obviously never bother to check it in any other web browser to make sure it looks good there too?
[08:22] <utab> TheGateKeeper: I tried to solve out my problem by generating a new sources.list file but still errors
[08:22] <TheGateKeeper> richiefrich: not yet, ahven't had time to look at it yet, thanx for asking :-)
[08:22] <richiefrich> np
[08:22] <SurfnKid> Geoffrey2, yeah thats discriminiative, I want justice!
[08:23] <TheGateKeeper> utab: put it in pastebin for me please
[08:23] <dougsko> hey guys
[08:23] <SurfnKid> gonna play a game and shower
[08:23] <SurfnKid> bbl
[08:23] <utab> TheGateKeeper : coming soon
[08:23] <SurfnKid> after this channel blows up and drowns
[08:23] <greyscale> Anyone at all going to help me?
[08:23] <SurfnKid> =] 
[08:23] <richiefrich> greyscale issue?
[08:24] <greyscale>  I just began the monumental task of changing IP ranges. And now a computer (192.168.0.252) won't connect to it (for reasons that are clear). I can't use GKSU or SUDO because /etc/sudoers should be 0444 not 0777. How do I fix this so I can use network-admin to change IP on it? (its using static) Solutions?
[08:24] <richiefrich> greyscale broke ?what
[08:24] <TheGateKeeper> richiefrich: wanted to go out this weekend but the weather seems to have other ideas, so I might get a chance :-)
[08:24] <krizzer> how do i change my resolution bigger than 1024x768
[08:24] <richiefrich> greyscale get on a liveCD
[08:24] <richiefrich> mount and chroot
[08:24] <richiefrich> and fix itk
[08:24] <greyscale> I have this whole "150-254 is static", "2-149 is dynamic" scheme
[08:24] <greyscale> Hmm
[08:25] <krizzer> how do i change my resolution bigger than 1024x768?
[08:25] <utab> TheGateKeeper: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21003
[08:25] <richiefrich> greyscale u need to fix permissions
[08:25] <greyscale> All I really need is to recover one /home/ directoy
[08:25] <richiefrich> greyscale u cant sudo
[08:25] <richiefrich> greyscale so u need to boot a liveCD
[08:25] <greyscale> I was going to try Gentoo anyway
[08:25] <dougsko> how come log out and in again cleanly from X? right now i just ctrl-alt-bksp, which takes me back to my graphical login (which is fine), but when i log back in, the type, 'users' it now shows to 'doug's are logged in.
[08:25] <greyscale> Yeah, I'll find a copy of 6.06 somewhere >>
[08:25] <richiefrich> greyscale better choice
[08:25] <hector> ya vi me dice No se pudo encontrar el paquete amsn
[08:25] <greyscale> ^^
[08:25] <richiefrich> greyscale im on gentoo now
[08:25] <hector> al querer instalar
[08:25] <txx2> Hello. I'm having trouble with ndiswrapper. http://pastebin.com/771416
[08:25] <cookie> krizzer go to terminal and write on sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:25] <greyscale> Just a little intimidated by gentoo
[08:26] <richiefrich> greyscale i can help u
[08:26] <krizzer> thx cookie
[08:26] <greyscale> was going to try it in VMWARE on my ubuntu box
[08:26] <utab> TheGateKeeper: try to update from a CD can solve the problem or is this a stupid question?
[08:26] <mcphail> dougsko: you will always have at leat 2 users when running X
[08:26] <richiefrich> greyscale no need man
[08:26] <dougsko> mcphail: ok, but how about six?
[08:26] <richiefrich> greyscale install be happy.. have control of the system
[08:26] <dougsko> mcphail: all me
[08:26] <greyscale> ^^
[08:26] <utab> TheGateKeeper: Because I get errors related to file downloads
[08:26] <mcphail> dougsko: yes - depends how many terminals you have open
[08:26] <hector> me marca No se pudo encontrar el paquete amsn
[08:27] <hector> al querer instalar
[08:27] <MrRio> Does anyone know if its possible to use xmms or libvisual visualization plugins from Totem?
[08:27] <shining> greyscale: keep ubuntu, it's much better :)
[08:27] <richiefrich> greyscale u need not a gentoo liveCD u need any liveCD
[08:27] <dougsko> mcphail: oh, so that has nothing to do with me loggin out/in of X?
[08:27] <richiefrich> shining have u tried anything else
[08:27] <shining> richiefrich: no no
[08:27] <hector> amigooooo
[08:27] <hector> No se pudo encontrar el paquete amsn
[08:27] <mcphail> dougsko: you will have 1 user from the graphical login and the rest from running terminals
[08:27] <richiefrich> shining then u wouldnt know
[08:27] <hector> No se pudo encontrar el paquete amsn
[08:27] <lens_> you know how every thirty log in, it does the file check... how do you force that?
[08:27] <hector> No se pudo encontrar el paquete amsn
[08:27] <FurryNemesis> oooooh
[08:27] <hector> No se pudo encontrar el paquete amsn
[08:27] <FurryNemesis> the bad
[08:27] <shining> richiefrich: I say it's better without knowing anything
[08:28] <shining> richiefrich: pretty smart, huh?
[08:28] <richiefrich> shining no itk's not
[08:28] <dougsko> mcphail: cool man, thanks
[08:28] <richiefrich> !es > hector
[08:28] <greyscale> richiefrich, I know. Its just I have a few ubuntu LiveCD's around
[08:28] <richiefrich> !es
[08:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:28] <richiefrich> greyscale thats great thats all u need man
[08:28] <greyscale> whats with all the spanish here all of a sudden
[08:29] <richiefrich> greyscale u can install gentoo from any liveCD
[08:29] <greyscale> shining, I like ubuntu because it, as a whole, won't tare your hands off
[08:29] <hector> mande
[08:29] <greyscale> richiefrich, I need to recover some things from this box first.
[08:29] <greyscale> Found one for 5.10
[08:29] <greyscale> BRING BACK THE OLD INSTALLER, FFS!
[08:29] <greyscale> I <3 the old installer
[08:29] <greyscale> Fucking GUI
[08:29] <CheetahMk2> Hector, yo no pienso que hay mucho hablaroes del Espanol aqui. Por favor, ir al #ubuntu-es para ayuda en su lingua.
[08:29] <TheGateKeeper> utab: there is an alternative cd which has pacakages on it, not sure if you can still get the breezy one or not, your sources.list look pretty good so not sure why you are having so many problems
[08:29] <richiefrich> greyscale look here --> http://penguinslair.dyndns.org/blog/?p=3
[08:29] <lens_> I just feel like I have all kinds of junk files and everything I try to uninstall remembers the settings... I wish there was something like "ccleaner" for Linux... is there?
[08:30] <richiefrich> greyscale and u can recover from liveCD
[08:30] <richiefrich> TheGateKeeper good good man
[08:30] <TheGateKeeper> utab: have you got synaptic installed?
[08:30] <greyscale> try uninstalling and choosing to Remove-all
[08:30] <utab> TheGateKeeper yes
[08:30] <greyscale> or something similar
[08:30] <richiefrich> TheGateKeeper i hope u get a chance to fix it
[08:30] <mcphail> lens_: remove your packages with the "--purge" flag
[08:30] <frying_fish> greyscale: you can get the alternate cd
[08:30] <frying_fish> that uses the text installer still.
[08:30] <greyscale> I know, frying_fish
[08:30] <waspius> i found some applets in kde-apps that show cpu,memory etc..but there is one for each..if i use them will it use alot of memory?
[08:30] <TheGateKeeper> richiefrich: I am sure I will :-)
[08:30] <frying_fish> so why complain that you don't have the "old installer"
[08:30] <greyscale> the text installer should be included as an option on the CD
[08:31] <kashual> ^
[08:31] <lens_> mcpahail, ok, I'll try that, thanks ;)
[08:31] <greyscale> I hate that fucking installer, and I like my production CD's, not CDR's thanks
[08:31] <auxi> 1
[08:31] <greyscale> ^-^
[08:31] <Kyral_Laptop> greyscale: which installer
[08:31] <hector> como me voy a ubunstu es
[08:31] <TheGateKeeper> utab: start it up, see if it is reporting any broken packages
[08:31] <shining> it's right the text installer is quite nice
[08:31] <richiefrich> !es > hector
[08:31] <nopcode> anyone got an idea why after upgrading from 5.10 to 6.06 my server fails to boot?
[08:31] <richiefrich> hector  look at your PM m,an
[08:32] <greyscale> nopcode, because life blows ^-^
[08:32] <Ropechoborra> Hi, I was resizeing my ntfs to add more space in the ubuntu ext3. PartitionMagic crushed, now windows doesnt boot, linux doesnt detect the ntfs. I could format it, but it is meaninless because modifying and ext3 is not secure. How can i add the ntfs space to my ubuntu without loosing all my data?
[08:32] <hector> es primera vez que uso ubuntu
[08:32] <greyscale> Try a fresh install >>
[08:32] <Megaqwerty> I can't get my synaptic package manager to come up. The password box comes up and it accepts my password but that is it. Can anyone help?
[08:32] <nopcode> greyscale: *g* yeah kinda
[08:32] <richiefrich> hector goto --> #ubuntu-es,
[08:32] <nopcode> greyscale: cant
[08:32] <greyscale> I fucked my server over doing that
[08:32] <nopcode> greyscale: dont have physical access
[08:32] <greyscale> Owwie
[08:32] <frying_fish> greyscale: tone down the language pleasd
[08:32] <nopcode> frying_fish: why?
[08:32] <hector> goto #ubuntu-es
[08:32] <mcphail> hector: /join #ubuntu-es
[08:32] <frying_fish> because its inappropriate
[08:32] <Kyral_Laptop> crap things are scrolling too fast
[08:32] <nopcode> 'fscked' is normal everyday language isnt it
[08:32] <greyscale> Sorry, frying_fish, but I like swaring. its not like we have any 14YO's here >>
[08:32] <nopcode> so why censor that
[08:32] <richiefrich> nopcode yup
[08:32] <greyscale> Well,a ctually....
[08:33] <utab> TheGateKeeper:see this please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21006
[08:33] <frying_fish> greyscale: we probably do actually
[08:33] <greyscale> Who here is under 18?
[08:33] <Kyral_Laptop> greyscale: actually we do have a CoC
[08:33] <waspius> anyone?
[08:33] <frying_fish> nopcode: because of the code of conduct
[08:33] <greyscale> I'm 16 lol and I run a few servers
[08:33] <mcphail> !language
[08:33] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:33] <Ropechoborra> !offtopic
[08:33] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:33] <frying_fish> also, you can find more appropriate language to use.
[08:33] <utab> TheGateKeeper: I get them while opening synaptic
[08:33] <hardporn> hello! could some one help me please? im using ubuntu and this add/remove stuff doesnt work. could some one give me better source.list?
[08:33] <Kyral_Laptop> !sources
[08:33] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:33] <Megaqwerty> I can't get my synaptic package manager to come up. The password box comes up and it accepts my password but that is it. Can anyone help?
[08:34] <CheetahMk2> Quesiton: is there a more advanced form of 'synaptic' that lets you force/lock/downgrade/equivalent without being finicky?
[08:34] <greyscale> LiveCD supports "vmware" as a video option lol
[08:34] <Kyral_Laptop> CheetahMk2: Aptget :D
[08:34] <frying_fish> Megaqwerty: try running synaptic from a terminal
[08:34] <Ropechoborra> Hi, I was resizeing my ntfs to add more space in the ubuntu ext3. PartitionMagic crushed, now windows doesnt boot, linux doesnt detect the ntfs. I could format it, but it is meaninless because modifying and ext3 is not secure. How can i add the ntfs space to my ubuntu without loosing all my data?
[08:34] <frying_fish> it might give you some more errors.
[08:34] <CheetahMk2> Kyral_Laptop: Apt-get isn't friendly : (
[08:34] <dougsko> CheetahMk2: dont use synaptic, use apt-get
[08:34] <mcphail> Megaqwerty: just tried mine - doing the same thing :(
[08:34] <greyscale> I like apt-get
[08:34] <CheetahMk2> It's what I've been using, but I'd like something that doesn't mess up dependencies
[08:34] <Kyral_Laptop> CheetahMk2: Aptitude
[08:34] <nopcode> btw is synaptic the recommended way to upgrad between releases?
[08:34] <lipe> man im having some problems with CONTROL + SHIFT + F in eclipse. It doesnt do a thing and the shortut is right. When I do that on GEDIT it appears some strange symbol. Im really out of ideas
[08:34] <CheetahMk2> It somehow ties Xorg to openoffice's theasaruys
[08:34] <frying_fish> use aptitude...
[08:35] <utab> is there good technical drawing program
[08:35] <Megaqwerty> mcphail: od you think it has to do with the updates?
[08:35] <greyscale> the recommended way to upgrade is reinstalling =3
[08:35] <Warbo> CheetahMk2: aptitude lets you force packages to be their current version, but I don't know of anything which will downgrade without explicitly giving it on a command line
[08:35] <greyscale> utab, What sort?
[08:35] <greyscale> PCB? 3D modeling?
[08:35] <Megaqwerty> can anyone else access theirs?
[08:35] <dougsko> frying_fish: isnt aptitude just the long name for apt-get?
[08:35] <mcphail> Megaqwerty: probably. There have been problems recently
[08:35] <CheetahMk2> dougsko: no
[08:35] <frying_fish> dougsko: not quite.
[08:35] <Kyral_Laptop> dougsko: aptitude is apt-get plus somethins
[08:35] <dougsko> oh
[08:35] <mcphail> Megaqwerty: are you using the xgl/compiz repos?
[08:35] <dougsko> cool
[08:36] <CheetahMk2> aptitude is a DOS-based (terminal-based?) GUI application
[08:36] <Warbo> dougsko: Try running "sudo apt-get" then run "sudo aptitude"
[08:36] <utab> greyscale like paint on windows but an advanced one, easy to use and effective
[08:36] <Megaqwerty> yeah, I think so.
[08:36] <CheetahMk2> !aptitude
[08:36] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[08:36] <Warbo> DOS? AA! It's ncurses!
[08:36] <dougsko> ok
[08:36] <frying_fish> CheetahMk2: ncurses I think.
[08:36] <mcphail> Megaqwerty: the last update has broken many things
[08:36] <CheetahMk2> ncurses?
[08:36] <Warbo> DOS=Disk Operating System (it does NOT = CLI and it does NOT = MSDOS)
[08:36] <Megaqwerty> mcphail: so they are probably working on it I would assume.
[08:36] <TheGateKeeper> utab: hang on... taking a look
[08:37] <Kyral_Laptop> CLI != evil
[08:37] <mcphail> Megaqwerty: nope.
[08:37] <utab> TheGateKeeper, thx
[08:37] <dougsko> sweet, ncurses
[08:37] <Megaqwerty> mcphail: seriously?
[08:37] <CheetahMk2> !ncurses > CheetahMk2
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ncurses - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <mcphail> Megaqwerty: the view on the #ubuntu-xgl channel is "you use this at your own risk"
[08:37] <greyscale> sorry utab, nothing as shoddy as paint belongs anywhere near a modern copy of windows.
[08:37] <dougsko> !curses
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about curses - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <Megaqwerty> so it is a problem with xgl?
[08:38] <CheetahMk2> mcphail: why is that?
[08:38] <dr_> Megaquerty I fixed this by running apt-get update apt-get upgrade from xterm in run an app by entering a command. This installs new gnome term and fixes everything
[08:38] <greyscale> *modern copy of linux
[08:38] <Warbo> !fishing
[08:38] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[08:38] <greyscale> Ugh, windows. Bad times
[08:38] <bbrazil> dr_: libncurses5-dev probably
[08:38] <utab> greyscale, which ones do you use
[08:38] <bbrazil> dougsko: ^
[08:38] <Warbo> !info tuxpaint
[08:38] <ubotu> tuxpaint: A paint program for young children. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.9.15b-1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 112 kB, installed size 328 kB
[08:38] <Warbo> Yay!
[08:38] <mcphail> Megaqwerty: don't think so. they messed around with some standard ubuntu packages for some modest effects at the last update.
[08:38] <dougsko> bbrazil: yeah i was just seeing if ubotu knew about curses
[08:39] <mcphail> Megaqwerty: my fonts have been uglified
[08:39] <Led_Zeppelin> trying to configure sound card, getting these messages
[08:39] <Led_Zeppelin> ALSA snd_pcm_open error: No such file or directory
[08:39] <Led_Zeppelin> any advice?
[08:39] <treyh0> why do the fonts in the openoffice.org gui look so much better in ubuntu (crisp, smooth) than debian (fat and fuzzy)?  I can't find anything about it in comparing the two systems  :(
[08:39] <Warbo> Maybe Cairo?
[08:39] <hardporn> i want to install more programs to ubuntu how to do it?
[08:40] <Kyral_Laptop> !synaptic
[08:40] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[08:40] <Kyral_Laptop> !apt
[08:40] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[08:40] <Kyral_Laptop> hardporn: take your pick :P
[08:40] <Megaqwerty> thanks dr_.
[08:40] <greyscale> hardporn, basicly, go look at the program named "synaptic"
[08:40] <Kyral_Laptop> or "Add/Remove Programs"
[08:41] <lipe> guys, when I press CONTROL + SHIFT + F it does this: . Where can I turn it off? I need this shortcut to eclipse
[08:41] <greyscale> heh
[08:41] <Megaqwerty> dr_: sorry I lost my connection, could you restate your fix?
[08:41] <treyh0> lipe: Desktop -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts ??
[08:42] <phaedrus44> anyone know what the repo is for mplayer?
[08:43] <Warbo> The commercial repository in Add/Remove doesn't appear in sources.list, anyone know why?
[08:43] <Megaqwerty> can anyone repost dr_ 's reply to me on how to fix the problem?
[08:43] <Warbo> !info mplayer
[08:43] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[08:43] <lipe> treyh0: The combination of control + shift + any char prints something instead of the configured shortcut in any application
[08:43] <Megaqwerty> anyone?
[08:44] <utab> TheGateKeeper, could you sort sth out
[08:44] <Warbo> "Megaquerty I fixed this by running apt-get update apt-get upgrade from xterm in run an app by entering a command. This installs new gnome term and fixes everything"
[08:44] <jd> Hello, I am trying to use gnome-dictionary to explain or translate italian words, can someone help me to point gnome-dictionary to an italian dict?
[08:44] <Cheery> Hi, when I try to run any game in wine, my mouse is locked to the center of the SDL window opened, it can be moved, but it returns to the center in few millisecs.
[08:44] <dr_> I fixed this by running apt-get update then apt-get upgrade from xterm under run an app by entering a command. This will install the new gnome-term and data
[08:44] <Cheery> What can I do for it?
[08:44] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[08:45] <TheGateKeeper> utab: there is something not quite right with your sources.list, but I am not absolutely sure what, have you tried this? http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:45] <dr_> no promlem
[08:45] <bretzel> Hi there, anyone played with dosemu(-freedos) ?
[08:46] <redphoenix1> a while ago i did a custom kernel install but after that install my wired network interface turned to "arp" and not eth0 and my wireless turned to ath0_ifrename. can somone help on how to get old interface names back?
[08:46] <TheGateKeeper> utab: before you do you need to backup your sources.list
[08:46] <hardporn> where could i find good sources.list?
[08:46] <Megaqwerty> I'm getting this error: synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:46] <Flamekebab> hardporn, there's one on the forum
[08:46] <Warbo> !easysource
[08:46] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:46] <CheetahMk2> Is there any way to get right click+drag functionality like in windows?
[08:46] <TheGateKeeper> hardporn: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[08:47] <CheetahMk2> right now I can only left click+drag
[08:47] <Warbo> CheetahMk2: What does that do?
[08:47] <phaedrus44> http://rpm.rutgers.edu/repository/ubuntu/  dapper  multivers <-----  this one is great
[08:47] <alpn> Hi. With what I could burn (.cue/.bin) files on DVD with Ubuntu? cdrdao seems not to be working for it.
[08:47] <utab> TheGateKeeper, the sources.list i have sent you was generated there
[08:47] <Warbo> !info bchunk
[08:47] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[08:47] <CheetahMk2> It is like left+click and drag, but it opens up a copy/move/shortcut dialog too
[08:47] <Warbo> CheetahMk2: Use middle-click drag
[08:47] <alpn> well isn't bchunk only for cds and not for dvds?
[08:47] <Warbo> I don't know
[08:47] <Warbo> (I don't have a DVD writer)
[08:47] <CheetahMk2> Warbo: yeah, and how do I get THAT functionality back? Middle-click + drag used to be virtual scrolling
[08:48] <greyscale> Where would I go to propose the text installer is included on the next version of ubuntu's CD?
[08:48] <TheGateKeeper> utab: hmmm
[08:48] <munsa> Can anyone help me with an Mplayer problem?
[08:48] <CheetahMk2> How do I scroll on web pages now? Is there some key for that?
[08:48] <Warbo> CheetahMk2: Yes. up/down
[08:48] <greyscale> CheetahMk2, PGUP/PGDOWN
[08:48] <haasteem> erUSUL: what were the last commands you asked me to put in?
[08:48] <greyscale> and UP/DOWN too
[08:48] <CheetahMk2> I meant both ways : p
[08:48] <CheetahMk2> middle click used to let me scroll up/downleft/right
[08:49] <TheGateKeeper> !repos > TheGateKeeper
[08:49] <greyscale> lol
[08:49] <CheetahMk2> until I let go of the button, at any rate.
[08:49] <greyscale> left/right
[08:49] <CheetahMk2> >: O
[08:49] <Led_Zeppelin> can someone please help me configure my sounds card?
[08:49] <Warbo> CheetahMk2: Up/down/left/right will scroll until you let go of the button
[08:49] <lwizardl> does ubuntu have any tools for ups power supplies ?
[08:49] <utab> TheGateKeeper, I may ask someone else thx  for the hellp
[08:50] <Warbo> And mouse wheel can scroll
[08:50] <greyscale> lwizardl, probably
[08:50] <greyscale> look in synaptic
[08:50] <utab> help for update problems
[08:50] <CheetahMk2> Warbo, you were right about middle click+drag, but I think you misinterperet my goal. I appreciate the help though.
[08:50] <bruceh> so funny, i'm looking at apple's latest OS, it's so much like linux
[08:50] <bruceh> they're doing the multiple desktops. Finally!
[08:50] <Warbo> "Spaces" < Wow! What an amazing idea!
[08:51] <jujimufu> has anyone enabled dri (that is, to manage and have "direct rendering: Yes" in glxinfo) in kubuntu with an i915?
[08:51] <Warbo> DRI=dri.sourceforge.net
[08:51] <bruceh> teach me how and i'll do it right now
[08:51] <CheetahMk2> jujimufu: I thought DRI was a given on an intel chipset
[08:51] <CheetahMk2> Go into Xorg.conf
[08:51] <rixxon> bruceh, screenshots?
[08:51] <CheetahMk2> load the DRI module, and the mesa DRI stuff
[08:51] <CheetahMk2> (they're on synaptic)
[08:51] <CheetahMk2> and you should have it
[08:52] <Warbo> Mesa DRI? Surely "direct rendering infrastructure" is completely incompatible with the idea of software rendering?
[08:52] <bruceh> my fedora dl is finally over. yes!
[08:52] <greyscale> Where would I go to propose the text installer is included on the next version of ubuntu's CD?
[08:52] <CheetahMk2> Mesa has DRI drivers.
[08:52] <CheetahMk2> I compiled them myself, I am pretty sure they do exist : )
[08:52] <bruceh> fedora needs to be smaller like ubuntu. took me 6 hurs to dl
[08:52] <CheetahMk2> DRI modules, etc.
[08:52] <jujimufu> CheetahMk2: wait, I'll go take a look now. I need to enable this to install XGL.
[08:53] <greyscale> bruceh, MOST people only need disks 1-3
[08:53] <CheetahMk2> oh, join me in ubuntu-xgl then. this chat is a but busy
[08:53] <kjm> bruceh - yes, but you can get the minimal install from the 1st CD and yum install what you want
[08:53] <bruceh> i had no choice
[08:53] <bruceh> fedora site forces u
[08:53] <Warbo> I use DRI modules for my ATI card, and some stuff (liek alpha) is done by Mesa, but that means that alpha is not being done directly
[08:53] <bruceh> i did a torrent dl
[08:53] <utab> help with update
[08:54] <rixxon> bruceh, where were you looking at apples next OS? I'm curious, do you have some links?
[08:54] <bruceh> i'll find it
[08:54] <Warbo> I think someone leaked the entire preview release OS :)
[08:54] <greyscale> rixxon, I was
[08:54] <alek> i want to upgrade my ubu 5.10 to 6.06 from CD.  what must I write to sources.list?
[08:54] <greyscale> Gaim sucks for IRC
[08:54] <jbroome> !upgrade
[08:54] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[08:55] <CheetahMk2> I heard apple (or some hacker) for multiple desktops working with an accelerometer in the hard drive, smack the screen and it changes desktops as if you smacked th screen around.
[08:55] <CheetahMk2> Whoah
[08:55] <greyscale> argh netsplit
[08:55] <utab> ubotu, I tried that
[08:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I tried that - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:55] <Ropechoborra> wow O_o
[08:55] <greyscale> utab - ubotu is a bot
[08:55] <kjm> wow, crazy netsplit
[08:55] <Warbo> I think there are Linux drivers for Macbook's accellerometers
[08:55] <Comrade-Sergei> Whats a good rpogram off synaptic i can use to call landlines for free?
[08:55] <utab> lol
[08:55] <bruceh> i keep getting kicked
[08:55] <bruceh> http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/index.html
[08:56] <bruceh> for whoever asked earlier that's the link
[08:56] <utab> greyscale, may I ask you an update question
[08:56] <kjm> Comrade-Sergei $apt-cache search voip
[08:56] <rixxon> bruceh, ok thanks
[08:56] <greyscale> utab - Give up and install from scratch
[08:56] <greyscale> backup your shit
[08:56] <Comrade-Sergei> kjm i need to call landline regular phones
[08:56] <greyscale> and flatten
[08:56] <Ropechoborra> How can i add unalocated space to Ubuntu ?
[08:56] <greyscale> Comrade-Sergei, buy a phone?
[08:57] <Comrade-Sergei> on the computer anghh
[08:57] <Comrade-Sergei> i have one
[08:57] <Warbo> Does Gizmo do that?
[08:57] <utab> greyscale, is that applicable to try once from the CD, or is this a stupid idea
[08:57] <kjm> Comrade-Sergei - yes you need a skype like application.  So, either install skype or search for an equivalent $apt-cache search voip
[08:57] <greyscale> utab, it can be done
[08:57] <greyscale> !upgrade
[08:57] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[08:57] <greyscale> read that
[08:58] <Comrade-Sergei> kjm i just tried skype and it for some reason likks my sound
[08:58] <utab> greyscale, have done that before
[08:58] <tibbe> yuck, all my fonts have instantly been uglyfied, they look too bold, could it have been one of the latest freetype patches?
[08:58] <utab> greyscale, I mean from the CD
[08:58] <manopulus> Comrade-Sergei, hi, if you want to call for free landlines, you need 1) windows 2) www.voipbuster.com 3) linux 4) asterisk pbx
[08:58] <kjm> Comrade-Sergei - then you should be asking why your sound is dying.
[08:58] <greyscale> utab - nope
[08:58] <greyscale> =/
[08:58] <Comrade-Sergei> screw it its skypes faule
[08:59] <utab> greyscale, I will try thx, c u
[08:59] <kjm> Comrade-Sergei - there are a few free skype type things.  I don't know their names.  But you can search through the possibilities by simply doing $apt-cache search voip
[08:59] <TheGateKeeper> utab: you could try this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21012 when you have replaced your sources.list, press the reload button on synaptic
[09:00] <oppN|RgX-[i] `ese> hi
[09:00] <utab> TheGateKeeper, you are still with me
[09:00] <utab> TheGateKeeper, thx
[09:00] <oppN|RgX-[i] `ese> I have a question about my ubuntu installation
[09:00] <oppN|RgX-[i] `ese> should i type in the channel
[09:00] <oppN|RgX-[i] `ese> or
[09:00] <oppN|RgX-[i] `ese> pm?
[09:00] <jorgp> channel
[09:00] <Comrade-Sergei> isnt skype ending free landline calls on jan 1 2007?
[09:00] <jrib> oppN|RgX-[i] : just type your question, but try to keep it in one line
[09:00] <TheGateKeeper> utab: give it a try, I don't know if it will work
[09:00] <oppN|RgX-[i] > ok i did the partitions thorugh gpart something
[09:00] <oppN|RgX-[i] > i booted from live cd
[09:01] <oppN|RgX-[i] > and it got to 99%
[09:01] <Cheery> damn, where would I find out what's wrong with that mouse cursor in wine? :/
[09:01] <oppN|RgX-[i] > but now its been on
[09:01] <oppN|RgX-[i] > removed ubiquity-ubunut-artwork for like 10 minutes
[09:01] <[2GP] KillerDemon> Cheery update?
[09:01] <oppN|RgX-[i] > is that normal?
[09:01] <jrib> oppN|RgX-[i] : _one_ line please :)  It's easier for everyone to read
[09:01] <TheGateKeeper> utab;oooops replace dapper with breezy!! the one thing I forgot to do!!!
[09:01] <Comrade-Sergei> manopulus thats for win 2000 or xp can i use wine or something?
[09:01] <TheGateKeeper> utab: you get that????
[09:01] <utab> TheGateKeeper: yes
[09:02] <Cheery> [2GP] KillerDemon: I should have quite update version.
[09:02] <oppN|RgX-[i] > ok i did the partitions thorugh gpart something. i booted from live cd. but now its been on removed ubiquity-ubunut-artwork for like 10 minutes is that normal?
[09:02] <Cheery> It looks like a configuration error.
[09:02] <Cheery> I mean: the mouse just simply doesn't move from the centre.
[09:02] <oppN|RgX-[i] > i have the latest release, i burned the iso image like a week ago
[09:02] <typhoid> hi!  i just installed and started mysql.. i can't connect with the mysql admin.. i tried using the /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock  but it still won't let me connect.. .any hints out there for me?
[09:03] <Cheery> even there would be any game app in use.
[09:03] <marky> hi all
[09:03] <jrib> oppN|RgX-[i] : what speed did you burn at?
[09:03] <marky> i've got a prob need help with
[09:03] <CheetahMk2> I figured out my problem
[09:03] <oppN|RgX-[i] > ummm 48 or optimul i dont recall
[09:03] <kjm> marky : DOn't ask if you can ask.  Just ask.
[09:03] <oppN|RgX-[i] > optimal*
[09:03] <Ropechoborra> Any ideas to add unlocated space to ubuntu ? (since i cant resize my ext3 main parition)
[09:03] <CheetahMk2> Warbo: It was 'autoscroll', its not working in Bon Echo beta 1
[09:03] <marky> ok kjw
[09:04] <CheetahMk2> That's normal for Firefox.
[09:04] <jrib> oppN|RgX-[i] : try burning at a lower speed, like 4x or even 2x
[09:04] <greyscale> 12 is good too
[09:04] <dalila> !opera
[09:04] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[09:04] <oppN|RgX-[i] > ummm you think its the cd?
[09:04] <greyscale> my CD drive fucks up above 12
[09:04] <utab> TheGateKeeper, errors again
[09:04] <oppN|RgX-[i] > so what would happen if i restarted it right now without it being at 100
[09:04] <marky> i've got a duel boot xp/Ubuntu and the xp had gone down the pan, i need to be albe to get the stuff out of that partition with ubuntu, but it says cannot mount :(
[09:04] <utab> TheGateKeeper, what is my problem
[09:05] <typhoid> am i doing something wrong
[09:05] <kallei> i cant get iptables to work.  i have just compiled the kernel but maybe i forgot something in the xconfig. what do i need to select in the xconfig to get iptables to be installed?
[09:05] <TheGateKeeper> utab: doesn't like the sources?
[09:05] <jrib> oppN|RgX-[i] : it's just trying to load the live-cd.  It's not installing anything, so nothing should happen
[09:05] <typhoid> ?  it seems to me that i'm doing it right.. i can connect @ commandline using    sudo mysql..
[09:05] <utab> TheGateKeeper, what is that
[09:05] <oppN|RgX-[i] > so thats what the artwork means?
[09:05] <oppN|RgX-[i] > i will attemp to reboot now
[09:05] <marky> i've got a duel boot xp/Ubuntu and the xp had gone down the pan, i need to be albe to get the stuff out of that partition with ubuntu, but it says cannot mount :( anyone know?
[09:05] <TheGateKeeper> utab: the repos?
[09:05] <redphoenix1> after i did a custom kernel install my wired network interface turned to "arp" and not eth0 and my wireless turned to ath0_ifrename. the problem still goes on even if i use my distros stock kernel. how can i get back the old network interfaces?
[09:05] <jrib> oppN|RgX-[i] : you never actually got to the desktop right?
[09:05] <hector> buenas tardes
[09:05] <utab> TheGateKeeper, does not like repos ??
[09:06] <hector> hi
[09:06] <kjm> backup grub.  Boot into machine from XP boot disk and use command fixmbr from the rescue mode.  Boot into XP, get data, reinstall grub
[09:06] <hector> como instalo amsn
[09:06] <marky> is this the help room?
[09:06] <oppN|RgX-[i] > it is on the desktop, but its at 99 percent
[09:06] <codyisdead> UBUNTU IS EVIL!!!!!
[09:06] <codyisdead> >.<
[09:06] <oppN|RgX-[i] > i havent restarted yet
[09:06] <nick_> ok i have a static ip, installed without an internet connection, the installer disabled all my repos. quick fix?
[09:06] <hector> esque no se ni comandos
[09:06] <jrib> !es
[09:06] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:06] <marky> i've got a duel boot xp/Ubuntu and the xp had gone down the pan, i need to be albe to get the stuff out of that partition with ubuntu, but it says cannot mount :( anyone know?
[09:06] <jrib> marky: yep, just ask your question
[09:06] <hector> ayudaaaa
[09:06] <hector> porfa
[09:06] <Ropechoborra> hector entra en #ubuntu-es por favor
[09:06] <utab> TheGateKeeper, can this be a problem that is connected to the breezy installation
[09:06] <TheGateKeeper> utab: you get errors when you do sudo-update ??
[09:06] <kjm> marky : backup grub.  Boot into machine from XP boot disk and use command fixmbr from the rescue mode.  Boot into XP, get data, reinstall grub
[09:06] <codyisdead> Marky: Good luck, linux cant copy or write to NTFS partitons.
[09:06] <jrib> hector: /join #ubuntu-es
[09:06] <hector> #ubuntu-es
[09:06] <codyisdead> >.>
[09:06] <codyisdead> <.<
[09:06] <utab> TheGateKeeper yes
[09:06] <codyisdead> UBUNTU!
[09:06] <codyisdead> Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[09:07] <hector> amigos
[09:07] <typhoid> or can any of you point me to  a  channel where i can get help with mysql on ubuntu?
[09:07] <codyisdead> MY machine is linux-ifed
[09:07] <jrib> oppN|RgX-[i] : did you ever tell it to install ubuntu?
[09:07] <oppN|RgX-[i] > yes
[09:07] <codyisdead> #mysqlonubuntu?
[09:07] <hector> como instalo amsn
[09:07] <oppN|RgX-[i] > i followed the install icon from the desktop
[09:07] <stray77> marky, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/ntfs
[09:07] <marky> hmm xp boots but i think its down to bad sectors why it won't run properly
[09:07] <Ropechoborra> hector, este es un canal solo para ayuda en ingles, si necesitas ayuda en espaol, ingresa a #ubuntu-es tipeando /join #ubuntu-es
[09:07] <oppN|RgX-[i] > it did everything but then it froze at 99 %  at ubuiquity-ubuntu-artwork
[09:07] <typhoid> what a waste of time..
[09:08] <kjm> marky : then run as fast as you can to store, buy new disk and pray.
[09:08] <jrib> oppN|RgX-[i] : oh so it's stuck on the install.  In that case the install might just not work and I would suggest burning at a lower speed anyway, reformatting the partition, and trying again
[09:08] <oppN|RgX-[i] > arg arg arg
[09:08] <oppN|RgX-[i] > ok i'll try to restart
[09:08] <oppN|RgX-[i] > one question about the formatting
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> typhoid: ask a question :)
[09:08] <oppN|RgX-[i] > does it happen before or after the install
[09:08] <marky> mount: mount point /media/ntfs does not exist
[09:08] <marky> :S
[09:08] <jrib> oppN|RgX-[i] : before
[09:09] <stray77> sudo mkdir /media/ntfs
[09:09] <typhoid> fyrestrtr: i've asked a couple times already, all i got was,     '#mysqlonubuntu?"
[09:09] <krizzer> how do i change my refesh rate
[09:09] <TheGateKeeper> utab: unless someone help you get out of this mess, what I would suggest is that you backup your data in your home directory, then reinstall, the only other thing I can think of is to try another country code
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> typhoid: I just joined, repeat please.
[09:09] <marky> it says mount: mount point /media/ntfs does not exist
[09:09] <Comrade-Sergei> manopulus um how do you actualy use voip buster
[09:09] <stray77> make a folder there
[09:09] <jrib> krizzer: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, will let you change your refresh rate I believe
[09:09] <stray77> first
[09:09] <TheGateKeeper> utab: you did replace the word dapper with breezy didn't you?
[09:09] <utab> TheGateKeeper, tried all nearby countries
[09:09] <Comrade-Sergei> it looks like it loaded but the icon does nto work
[09:09] <krizzer> what is the command to edit xorg in a text editor, bot in the terminal?
[09:10] <utab> TheGateKeeper, yes
[09:10] <manopulus> Comrade-Sergei, no, i work in telco and i calling for free :)
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> krizzer: sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:10] <kjm> krizzer : sudo nano <file>
[09:10] <typhoid> I have installed mysql and mysqladmin..  i can connect to the mysql server from  command line (sudo mysql.. it says i connect to localhost using unix sock /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock -) -  I try to connect using  mysqladmin and it says it cannot connect (though it can ping...)
[09:10] <Comrade-Sergei> manopulus italian huh?
[09:10] <kjm> fyrestrtr : what does the -w switch do?
[09:10] <manopulus> Comrade-Sergei, but voipbuster giving free calls, visit www.voip-info.org and look well
[09:10] <marky> stray77 it says mount: mount point /media/ntfs does not exist
[09:10] <typhoid> I'm wondering if i am doing something wrong, or making a common mistake, or overlooking something that I need to do extra in order to connect via mysqladmin =D
[09:11] <Comrade-Sergei> manopulus yes but thats for windows and wine wont worj for it
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> typhoid: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[09:11] <krizzer> sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf outs it in the terminal, there was a commnd that i used that let me use a text editor and that was alot eaiser, does anyone know it
[09:11] <stray77> marky, you have to create the directory first with sudo mkdir /media/ntfs
[09:11] <kinections> where is the apache src located for ubuntu?
[09:11] <manopulus> Comrade-Sergei, you need windows app only to register accoint
[09:11] <TheGateKeeper> utab: sorry, unless someone more knowledgable than me can help you, I would backup up your data, and reinstall sorry :-(
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> typhoid: wait, did you say you install 'mysql' and 'mysqladmin' ?
[09:11] <cmatheson> i'm looking for a livecd that's easy to modify (i need to add a vpn client)... are there any that can just be mounted as a loopback filesystem and edited that way?
[09:11] <hardporn> Hi, why doesn't this http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=33871 cool theme work?
[09:11] <manopulus> Comrade-Sergei, then google for voipbuster asterisk pbx
[09:11] <kjm> krizzer : lose the -w flag
[09:11] <manopulus> Comrade-Sergei, and do apt-get install asterisk-pbx
[09:11] <utab> TheGateKeeper, thx but one more question
[09:11] <typhoid> fyrestrtr i've already installed them and mysql is running.. i can connect from command line but not from the mysqladmin
[09:11] <manopulus> Comrade-Sergei, as softphone can use kphone (kde) or www.sjlabs.com
[09:12] <Comrade-Sergei> manopulus softphone is it in the ubuntu repos?
[09:12] <fyrestrtr> typhoid: what user are you giving in mysqladmin?
[09:12] <poison> so anyone using mythtv?
[09:12] <kit^> has anyone iused and install last FM?
[09:12] <utab> TheGateKeeper, I have done backups and after I have resinstalled ubuntu all of my previouly installed programs will be available or not
[09:12] <marky> stray77 now it says i don't have permissions to view contents of "ntfs"
[09:12] <typhoid> fyrestrtr:  I've tried my main user account (in adm group) , as well as admin and root.. it doesn't like any of them =(
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> typhoid: by default, the only user allowed to access mysql is 'root' without any password.
[09:13] <stray77> sudo chmod 777 /media/ntfs
[09:13] <stray77> i think
[09:13] <stray77> but dont write to it
[09:13] <k0shi> Anyone know why I can inject traffic on my new Prism2 card?
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> just type mysql -u root -p -- and when it asks for a password, just hit enter.
[09:13] <stray77> or move files around
[09:13] <typhoid> fyrestrtr:  beautiful!   thank you kindly, that did the trick!
[09:13] <Comrade-Sergei> manopulus how bout wengo?
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> typhoid: best you create a password for that, and create a new user for your daily use.
[09:14] <Comrade-Sergei> ill try it
[09:14] <stray77> and checkout phpmyadmin
[09:14] <typhoid> fyrestrtr: rodger that!   it shall be done!
[09:14] <utab> after a back up and restore, all the previously installed programs are accesible or not
[09:14] <[2GP] KillerDemon> aahh
[09:15] <TheGateKeeper> utab: the default packages will be, but if you loose some then use this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper, and I have got some usefull links here: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home  should be a relatively easy thing to sort out
[09:15] <marky> stray77 now it says chmod: changing permissions of `/media/ntfs': Read-only file system
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> !ntfs > stray77
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> !ntfs > marky
[09:15] <k0shi> Can ANYONE here help me with a WIFI card?
[09:15] <marky> thanks i'll check that out
[09:16] <redphoenix1> a while ago i did a custom kernel install but after that install my wired network interface turned to "arp" and not eth0 and my wireless turned to ath0_ifrename. can somone help on how to get old interface names back?
[09:16] <TheGateKeeper> utab: if you are kubuntu (i.e.) then use the xine engine in amaroK, install libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs
[09:16] <stray77> whats the chmod for read only? 644?
[09:16] <TheGateKeeper> (i.e. KDE) ooops
[09:16] <krizzer> how do i add an option to grub to make a menu of os x and ubuntu
[09:16] <utab> TheGateKeeper, what are tha codecs for
[09:17] <haasteem> i updated from breezy to dapper last night, and now my sound is not working anymore... i believe it has something to do with pcmcia services... what might be the problem?
[09:17] <TheGateKeeper> utab: so you can play mp3 files etc etc
[09:17] <stray77> marky, sudo chmod 444 /media/ntfs
[09:17] <stray77> see if that works
[09:17] <utab> please TheGateKeeper, I am asking for programs like matlab and others like this
[09:18] <kjm> utab: You are looking for an equivalent to MatLab???
[09:18] <lamego> stray77, you can't write to an ntfs partition
[09:18] <crixxx> whats up with the servers of wiki ?
[09:18] <marky> i need to get my data out of a ntfs file system, my laptop is duel boot and the xp is knackered
[09:18] <[2GP] KillerDemon> there dead
[09:19] <[2GP] KillerDemon> wiki
[09:19] <[2GP] KillerDemon> :P
[09:19] <crixxx> whats the reason :)
[09:19] <marky> sudo chmod 444 /media/ntfs make it says chmod: changing permissions of `/media/ntfs': Read-only file system
[09:19] <[2GP] KillerDemon> i just said :P
[09:19] <oppN|RgX-[i] > i like cereal
[09:19] <TheGateKeeper> utab: how did you install matlab can't see it in the repos, did you add extra repos?
[09:20] <utab> lim, I have problems with my system and wondering whether after a backup and restore will I be able to use all the previously installed programs
[09:20] <[2GP] KillerDemon> but whats up with this :S
[09:20] <jrib> utab: octave is like matlab
[09:20] <[2GP] KillerDemon> [21:20]  <[2GP] KillerDemon> bla
[09:20] <[2GP] KillerDemon> #wikipedia Cannot send to channel
[09:20] <oppN|RgX-[i] > i like cereal
[09:20] <utab> TheGateKeeper, it is licensed
[09:20] <oppN|RgX-[i] > i like cereal
[09:20] <krizzer> how do i add an option to grub to make a menu of os x and ubuntu
[09:20] <kjm> TheGateKeeper : MatLab is a purchased software.  It is installed through CD.  Won't be in any repos.
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> marky: if you want to get the data *out* then you don't need write access.
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> marky: once the disk is mounted, just copy the files over.
[09:21] <TheGateKeeper> thanx kjm :-)
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> krizzer: there is no option to grub for that, you need to manually edit the menu.lst file.
[09:21] <lens_> sudo ./gtkorphan
[09:21] <Comrade-Sergei> thanks guys!
[09:21] <kjm> Utab : What is your issue with MatLab?  I've got it installed on all my boxes (OS X, solaris, ubuntu and Fedora...)
[09:21] <krizzer> yes that was what i was wondering how to do
[09:21] <utab> kjm, do you want to challenge your linux knowledge with an update problem
[09:21] <typhoid> when i'm downloading stuff for my ubunutu dapper..  are tarballs better than rpm packages?
[09:21] <krizzer> do i just add what volume it is under
[09:21] <TheGateKeeper> utab: ok yes you will need to reinstall that
[09:21] <lens_> sudo /.gtkorphan
[09:21] <snoops> I'm I'm looking for a text editing application which would allow me to 1) quickly write and do some text formating - lists, links, font, font size. 2) insert pictures easily. 3) being able to very quickly draw diagrams on top of inserted images, or just create a blank image and draw on that.
[09:21] <lens_> arghg.
[09:22] <marky> fyrestrtr thats what i'm trying to do, but i can't mount it , i don't know how, everything i tried from what peeps said in here so far hasn't worked
[09:22] <hector> AYUDENME CHINGADO
[09:22] <kjm> utab : I could try.  No guarantees though.....
[09:22] <snoops> anyway have any idea if such software exists?
[09:22] <hector> a instalar amsn
[09:22] <lens_> sorry, I'm out of it.
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> typhoid: don't *ever* download a rpm for ubuntu. Why are you downloading packages? Most stuff you'll need is already available in the repositories. See !software
[09:22] <TheGateKeeper> kjm: issue seems to be with the repos they all seem to cause errors for some reason
[09:22] <utab> kjm, I can not update my system
[09:22] <lamego> marky, the partition is already mounted
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> marky: okay, let me see if I can help you.
[09:22] <lamego> marky, sudo nautilus /media/ntfs
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> lamego: no
[09:22] <marky> its mounted
[09:23] <marky> i can't see anything inside it
[09:23] <utab> kjm, the problem is that i have generated sources.list from the generator
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> marky: umount /media/ntfs
[09:23] <marky> it says i don't have permision
[09:23] <kjm> utab : I really doubt that it is a matlab problem :).  What errors are you getting from apt-get?
[09:23] <lamego> you will need to change your fstab
[09:23] <lamego> marky, i said with "sudo"
[09:23] <lamego> anyway change it on fstab
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> marky: sudo umount /media/ntfs
[09:23] <typhoid> fyrestrtr: thanks =D   I only download tarballs when i can't find it with synaptic..
[09:23] <shawnr_> is there a way to "hide" the Templates folder in home so that Nautilus still sees it?
[09:23] <lamego> to be mounted with the proper mask/id
[09:23] <typhoid> !software
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> lamego: it has nothing to do with fstab.
[09:23] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[09:23] <utab> kjm, you mean the update errors
[09:23] <kjm> yes
[09:23] <typhoid> !Synaptic
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Synaptic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <lamego> fyrestrtr, what is the problem ?
[09:24] <marky> ok done sudo umount /media/ntfs
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> marky: after you have done that, do this
[09:24] <marky> k
[09:24] <[2GP] KillerDemon> wtf
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> marky: sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=0000 /dev/whatever /media/ntfs
[09:24] <lamego> fyrestrtr, thats the umask !
[09:24] <[2GP] KillerDemon> can somebody explain this
[09:24] <[2GP] KillerDemon> [21:24]  <[2GP] KillerDemon> heejjj
[09:24] <[2GP] KillerDemon> #wikipedia Cannot send to channel
[09:24] <harisund> Hello! Is ther anyway I can prevent grub from being installed (or remove it after it installs) using the alternate CD?
[09:24] <rosh1182> does anyone know if there is a driver to load (via modprobe) for epson printers (connected via usb)
[09:24] <lamego> that can be define on fstab, that was what i was talking about !
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> [2GP] KillerDemon: don't complain about it here.
[09:25] <marky> mount: special device /dev/whatever does not exist
[09:25] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, is there a way to "hide" the Templates folder in home so that Nautilus still sees it?
[09:25] <utab> kjm, first of all, when I try to open synaptic i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21006
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> lamego: he's not using fstab, its a complex way to solve a simple problem.
[09:25] <[2GP] KillerDemon> fyrestrtr this is the only channel in which i can talk :s
[09:25] <haasteem> i updated from breezy to dapper last night, and now my sound is not working anymore... i believe it has something to do with pcmcia services... what might be the problem?
[09:25] <lamego> fyrestrtr, it is the only way to solve it permanently
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> [2GP] KillerDemon: identify with nickserv
[09:25] <[2GP] KillerDemon> and which doesnt bore me
[09:25] <lamego> he doesnt want a temporary mount, he wants a permanent mount
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> lamego: he's not wanting a permanent solution.
[09:26] <[2GP] KillerDemon> fyrestrtr i did
[09:26] <kapace> hello
[09:26] <marky> i just need to ocopy my data on to a usb 200gig drive then kill the ntfs
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> lamego: he wants to move stuff off a ntfs partition that is corrupt.
[09:26] <lamego> ok
[09:26] <[2GP] KillerDemon> thats the problem
[09:26] <kapace> im trying to config Xfree on my linux box
[09:26] <lamego> sorry :P
[09:26] <amikron> i've tried to install xmms because the default player is not so good. I've downloaded it and tried to compile and i got this error message: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH <-- how can i solve this ?
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: why do you want to hide it and then make it visible in nautilus? doesn't make sense.
[09:26] <lamego> anywa, sudo nautlis is even easier
[09:26] <amikron> anyone help ?
[09:26] <lamego> and would work
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> amikron: don't download and compile it.
[09:26] <lamego> for a temporary solution
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> amikron: sudo apt-get install xmms
[09:27] <jrib> !info xmms
[09:27] <ubotu> xmms: Versatile X audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1029 kB, installed size 7256 kB
[09:27] <kjm> utad : Try hitting the reload button.
[09:27] <marky> ok lamego go for it
[09:27] <amikron> okeay
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> lamego: one more thing, don't use sudo with graphical apps.
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> lamego: use gksudo
[09:27] <lamego> marky, now you have it unmounted, mount it as fyrestrtr said
[09:27] <nkayhan> hi
[09:28] <echobinary> hi
[09:28] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, nautilus uses a folder in home named "Templates" for the 'new document' menu on right click. i would like to hide the folder but still have nautilus use it for new file templates
[09:28] <marky> it says mount: special device /dev/whatever does not exist
[09:28] <echostorm> hey guys i use usenet pretty regularly and I just switched to linux. Im trying to find a good file joiner/splitter (handles .001 files) and a program that handles par files... can anyone help? google search is turning up nothing useful.
[09:28] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, is there something i can edit in gconf maybe?
[09:28] <utab> kjm, http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/main/source/Sources.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: where did you get this information about the Templates folder? I don't have any folder like that.
[09:28] <kapace> how can i mount a ubuntu formatted hd in live ubuntu?
[09:29] <Trae> I installed SLED (Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop) the other day for grins on this laptop, and switcheed back to Ubuntu, of course, because it's better! :)   I was able to get XGL going on this laptop with no problems... (just clicked a button)  The chipset is:  Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller  anyone know of a howto that will let me get 3D stuff going so I can play a game like bzflag on mylaptop?
[09:29] <lamego> fyrestrtr, whats the differente between sudo and gksudo besides the graphical prompt ?
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> kapace: mount -t auto /dev/foo /some/where
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> lamego: the environment variables that each set.
[09:29] <lamego> ok :)
[09:29] <echostorm> incidently if anyone in here is responsible for automatix , my hats off to you.
[09:29] <echobinary> thanks man
[09:29] <kjm> utab : do you get this error when using apt-get install <package> from the CLI?
[09:29] <marky> lamego it won't mount
[09:29] <echobinary> j/k :)
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> Trae: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Video
[09:29] <lamego> marky, it does mount if you use the proper device name
[09:29] <Trae> (I personally don't care for compiz, so not interested in setting all that up)  Just want 3D stuff so I can play games
[09:30] <lamego> marky, sudo fdisk -l
[09:30] <Trae> fyrestrtr, k
[09:30] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, if you go here [ go>Templates ]  from the nautilus file browser it will create it automatically. by default it doesn't exist
[09:30] <KrakensDen> Hi, I'm having a problem with my wireless card. It worked initially on my laptop, but today it stopped working
[09:30] <utab> kjm, lets try that with something
[09:30] <KrakensDen> I've reloaded the kernel module and the binary daemon
[09:30] <utab> kjm, I may install programs
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: mine is empty, so what do you want to do with this folder?
[09:31] <KrakensDen> but it doesn't show up under ifconfig or anything else
[09:31] <KrakensDen> I've grepped through dmesg, but there doesn't seem to be anything wrong
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: you want it to not show up in nautilus?
[09:31] <kjm> utab : Ya, pick a small program and try to install through apt-get.  At least we'll know if it is a prob. with your sources.list, or apt versus just a problem with synaptic.
[09:32] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, you put black documents in there. like i have [ Bash Script.sh ]  in the folder. so when i right click i can select [ Create Document > Bash Script ] 
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: okay, I get the purpose, but what do you want with hiding it?
[09:32] <echostorm> ok i actually got par files covered...great! that par program in the repository has a nice frontend called pypar on softpedia... still need a good joiner splitter though if anyone has any idea.
[09:32] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, my goal is to 'hide' the folder because my home is very cluttered
[09:33] <kapace> can some1 guide me setuping xfree?
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> kapace: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[09:33] <Hexidigital_> shawnr_: why not just rename it ~/.Templates?
[09:33] <kapace> no like, configureing it
[09:33] <greyscale> Moment of trueth....
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> kapace: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:33] <greyscale> Will the server come back up in one piece or not?
[09:33] <kapace> ooh
[09:34] <shawnr_> Hexidigital_, because then Nautilus doesn't use it for templates then
[09:34] <haasteem> i updated from breezy to dapper last night, and now my sound is not working anymore... i believe it has something to do with pcmcia services... what might be the problem?
[09:34] <Hexidigital_> shawnr_: ah.. i misunderstood your objective
[09:34] <kapace> 
[09:35] <marky> fyrestrtr right i can see in my ntfs file :) nearly there, not it says i can't write t
[09:35] <marky> to the usb 200g drive i don't have permission
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> marky: that's fine if you can't write to it, you can still read from it.
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: don't think that's possible.
[09:36] <lamego> marky, what type of partition is the usb drive ?
[09:36] <marky> i can read from the ntfs internal, but now i can't right to the usb 200gig drive
[09:36] <marky> same again ntfs
[09:36] <lamego> marky, so you cant write on it
[09:36] <lamego> you will need to reformat it to fat32
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> marky: oh geez -- you can't write to it without doing some special acrobatics.
[09:36] <TheGame> i have flash 8 installed in firefox
[09:36] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, there has to be a way to edit what nautilus uses for certain dir
[09:36] <TheGame> but some sites still ask me to install it
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> marky: if you are only going to use it on ubuntu, format it with ext3
[09:36] <utab> kjm, your suggestion a small programs
[09:36] <TheGame> any1 know why
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> marky: if you want to share it, create two 100GB partitions using fat32
[09:37] <marky> ok i'll tyr
[09:37] <marky> try
[09:37] <jrib> TheGame: how did you install flash8?
[09:37] <TheGame> automatix
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: hrmm, try asking in ##gnome
[09:37] <TheGame> actually i think it was with easyubuntu
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> TheGame: do not recommend automatix in here.
[09:37] <kjm> utab : any success?
[09:37] <jrib> TheGame: there is no flash8 for linux though
[09:37] <TheGame> ya there is
[09:38] <TheGame> there isnt flash 9
[09:38] <jrib> fyrestrtr: he was just answering my question :)
[09:38] <greyscale> yes there is.
[09:38] <utab> kjm, suggest me sth to download small
[09:38] <greyscale> Flash 9 is out on the windows and mac platforms
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> jrib: we don't like people using automatix
[09:38] <TheGame> right
[09:38] <greyscale> check out adobe.com
[09:38] <TheGame> fyrestrtr:  i used easyubuntu
[09:38] <TheGame> does adobe have deb packages
[09:38] <sizzam> is there a good place to find all known issues with the 64bit kernel?
[09:38] <greyscale> ...
[09:38] <greyscale> no.
[09:38] <kapace> plz help me load my hd...
[09:38] <kapace> im such a noob
[09:38] <etsme> hi room, well strange question but honestly i m trying to find the option through which i can see the user's present in the room
[09:38] <greyscale> They send flash 7 with a nice little installer.
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> sizzam: launchpad
[09:39] <kjm> utab : oh.  ummmm.  $apt-get update;apt-get install emacs
[09:39] <Papagena> How do I install Ubuntu onto a computer with no CD or floppy drive? That is, the only way to transfer information to it is through network and by removing its HDD, enclosing it, and putting stuff on it from another computer. Can I, say, create bootable partition on the HDD that would start a netinstall?
[09:39] <greyscale> kapace, if you're a lame newb, try windows.
[09:39] <sizzam> fyrestrtr: is that a website?
[09:39] <greyscale> Its much easier ;3
[09:39] <kapace> im tired of windows
[09:39] <etsme> oh one thing more i m using XChat IRC
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> sizzam: its the bug tracker.
[09:39] <greyscale> get the CD burned then
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> sizzam: bugs.ubuntu.com I think will take you there.
[09:39] <greyscale> get the iso from ubuntu and burn it to CD
[09:39] <maria> does anyone know if theres anything for ubuntu which can put music on my netmd minidisc player?
[09:39] <kjm> greyscale : That's no bloody way to promote new users to try linux you rude bastard.
[09:39] <utab> kjm, errors but my main is that I can not update the system
[09:40] <greyscale> kjm, hehe, but its truethful ^^
[09:40] <Geoffrey2> greyscale, I've gone to the adobe site...the latest version of flash they advertise for Linux is Flash 7
[09:40] <sizzam> fyrestrtr: thanks.  if i told you that i was thinking about installing 64bit, what would you tell me?
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> Papagena: there are many ways to install ubuntu (including net install).
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> !installation > Papagena
[09:40] <greyscale> Geoffrey2, Thats because adobe sucks ^^
[09:40] <kjm> utab : have you tried pinging the servers to make sure they are up?
[09:40] <utab> how
[09:40] <greyscale> who?
[09:40] <greyscale> why?
[09:40] <greyscale> What?
[09:40] <greyscale> All very valid questions
[09:40] <echobinary> Where?
[09:40] <utab> kjm, how
[09:40] <greyscale> if we knew the context
[09:40] <kjm> $ping <server name>
[09:40] <Geoffrey2> greyscale, oh, I thought you were saying there was indeed a version 8 for Linux out...never mind :)
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> sizzam: if you have a dire need for it, then go for it. I would only do it on a dev machine, not on a 'daily use' machine. As some things (like flash) don't work too well.
[09:41] <greyscale> Geoffrey2, Noooo... adobe aren;t that groovy
[09:41] <etsme> can anyone guide me which IRC chat program to use ? i mean which has more features than XChat IRC ?
[09:41] <sizzam> fyrestrtr: gotcha, sounds like the same types of issues that were happening in breezy64 are still happening in dapper64
[09:41] <ynef> etsme: I like irssi
[09:41] <Geoffrey2> greyscale, actually, I think it's "they're not terribly linux literate"
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> sizzam: if I had a 64bit machine, I would go for it -- but I know enough about linux to try to fix things when they break.
[09:41] <DJAdmiral> hey, have the freenode issues been fixed yet?
[09:41] <oppN|RgX-[i] > hey, i restarted and everything seems to be working fine
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> sizzam: its still a bit in the air.
[09:41] <oppN|RgX-[i] > im installing the updates and its not from the cd
[09:41] <etsme> ynef >> which repository to add for it to get ?
[09:42] <utab> kjm, can you give the command
[09:42] <DJAdmiral> the freenode issues been fixed yet?
[09:42] <ynef> etsme: I think it's installed by default, type "irssi" in a terminal window
[09:42] <etsme> ok
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> DJAdmiral: yes, I think so.
[09:42] <etsme> thanks
[09:42] <kjm> utab: $ping be.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:42] <DJAdmiral> fyrestrtr: okay, thanks
[09:42] <greyscale> Geoffrey2, But "Adobe are ungroovy" was easier on the brain than "Adobe aren't terrably linux literate"
[09:43] <kjm> utab : and it seems that the server is not responding to ping.  So, it would seem that this repository is down.  Try again in a few hours.
[09:43] <kapace> plz help me mount my ubuntu hda
[09:43] <greyscale> lol. Just wrote "adobe" instead of "admin"
[09:43] <ynef> etsme: you're welcome -- if you need a particular feature, odds are that you'll be able to find what you're looking for -- irssi can use plugins written in perl
[09:43] <greyscale> kapace, have you even installed it yet?
[09:43] <utab> kjm, I have tried many times with different country codes but no use
[09:43] <crimsun> haasteem: what sound hardware do you have?
[09:44] <kjm> utab : Try restoring your sources.list to the original.
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> utab: tracepath be.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:44] <Geoffrey2> greyscale, true..true :)
[09:44] <fanfan> salut
[09:45] <fanfan> quelqu'un connu ANGELUS?
[09:45] <etsme> ynef >> one thing more, please tell me where to ask for help, i think i forgot my password for the NICK ETSME. thanks
[09:45] <fanfan> connait*
[09:45] <greyscale> eep =^o^= people I don't understand
[09:45] <kapace> i have ubuntu on my hd
[09:45] <greyscale> English is spoken here
[09:45] <kapace> im on live now
[09:45] <fanfan> lol
[09:45] <fanfan> sorry
[09:45] <greyscale> kapace, so take the CD out
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> etsme: #freenode
[09:45] <kapace> i want to mount it now
[09:45] <utab> fyrestrtr n reply
[09:45] <kapace> why?
[09:45] <greyscale> Oh!
[09:45] <kjm> utab : these errors you are getting seem to be a result of a failure to download the package list from the server.   Most logical reason I can think of is that the server is down.....beyond that I have no idea.
[09:45] <kapace> it doesn't work if i go to hd ubuntu
[09:45] <etsme> ok thanks
[09:46] <utab> kjm, German servers are on
[09:46] <kapace> xfree is broken
[09:46] <etsme> thanks fyrestrtr
[09:46] <etsme> brb room
[09:46] <bigfuzzyjesus> will dillo run "ok" on xubuntu?
[09:46] <Geoffrey2> oh, speaking of Adobe...I noticed the version of Adobe Reader I have is 7.0.1, while Adobe's lastest version for Linux is 7.0.8....any particular reason I'd need to upgrade to that newer version?
[09:46] <greyscale> "sudo mkdir /media/harddisk" and then "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/harddisk"
[09:46] <kjm> utab, try restoring your sources list and retry updating with synaptic....use http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic to restore.
[09:46] <kapace> k ill try
[09:46] <kjm> utab : Can you update from the german mirrors?
[09:46] <finalbeta> finalbeta@finalbeta-desktop:~$ synaptic
[09:46] <finalbeta> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:46] <utab> kjm, seems they are on i am going to try are u here
[09:46] <finalbeta> Help... Can no longer start synaptic
[09:46] <TheGame> any1 know  how to turn off the touchpad
[09:47] <kjm> utab : yup
[09:47] <TheGame> without a palm check it goes crazy
[09:47] <bigfuzzyjesus> fyrestrtr, do you know if dillo will run ok on xubuntu
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> finalbeta: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:47] <ynef> TheGame: do you want to turn it off when you have a mouse plugged in? that's usually an option in the computer's BIOS
[09:47] <TheGame> hmm
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> bigfuzzyjesus: no, I don't.
[09:47] <cyrilnmaddy> hello everybody
[09:47] <TheGame> will ubuntu be able to handle that ynef
[09:47] <ynef> cyrilnmaddy: hi
[09:47] <bigfuzzyjesus> fyrestrtr, oh ok, nalioth helped me out
[09:48] <cyrilnmaddy> i don t speak very well english so it s hard for me
[09:48] <buddhalover> hello! :)
[09:48] <finalbeta> fyrestrtr, and then?
[09:48] <cyrilnmaddy> i ve a problem
[09:48] <TheGame> ok let me restart and see what i can do in the bio
[09:48] <TheGame> s
[09:48] <finalbeta> fyrestrtr, the updates must have broken it, didn't do anything sinse last time.
[09:48] <edju> Prog seems to require libgtk-1.2.  Have 2.0.  Will install of 1.2 interfere w/ anything?
[09:48] <jrib> finalbeta: you can symlink libvte.so.4 to libvte.so.9.  It seems to be a bug in the updates.  There is a thread on the forums
[09:49] <nemik> hello, my network-manager-gnome refuses to see my wireless (2200bg on a dell 700m) and i don't know why
[09:49] <ynef> cyrilnmaddy: someone will be able to help you anyway -- ask away :)
[09:49] <josmar> opa
[09:49] <buddhalover> i need help
[09:49] <utab> kjm, no use
[09:49] <buddhalover> with last-exit
[09:49] <cyrilnmaddy> i have installed the last version of firefox by the website and now firefox works but the menu are not in graphic mode
[09:49] <utab> kjm, I have tried this repeatedly before
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> finalbeta: sudo apt-get install --reinstall synaptic
[09:50] <kjm> utab : very weird.  Let me google around for a minute.
[09:50] <greyscale> kapace, check PM
[09:50] <cyrilnmaddy> anybody can help me in private because i m very bad in emglish
[09:50] <kapace> pm?
[09:50] <echobinary> comes after am
[09:50] <eugman> I made  custom ubuntu livecd and want to run it on a really old computer. The bios only recognized harddrives and floppies, what can I do?
[09:50] <greyscale> Personal message
[09:50] <kapace> yes what about it?
[09:50] <greyscale> read it./
[09:51] <kapace> err how?
[09:51] <greyscale> >>
[09:51] <kevin> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu 6.06. I then proceeded to install my NetGear WG511 v2 card with ndiswrapper and the drivers from the cd. this worked and the LED's came on, but when i went to configure it, the changes never affected the card. the ESSID was empty after configuring. Any ideas why?
[09:51] <greyscale> What clien are you using?
[09:51] <kapace> xcaht
[09:51] <greyscale> then its down here VVVV
[09:51] <greyscale> Somewhere
[09:51] <greyscale> with my name on it
[09:51] <greyscale> click it
[09:51] <kapace> o
[09:51] <kapace> i just deleted it..
[09:51] <kapace> sorry..
[09:52] <Comrade-Sergei> ok skype isnt letting me make outgoing calls like it should and its def a linux prob cause it works in windows
[09:52] <greyscale> It should be there again
[09:52] <buddhalover> i need to learn how to apply a save_song patch i've downloaded to a program i installed called last-exit.
[09:52] <lamego> buddhalover, do you have the source of the program ?
[09:52] <kjm> utab : http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=8127&sid=89394a4b9fcfc97a9ad96d250bcec8a7  This discussion has a lot of good troubleshooting things.  See if following along with it will help.
[09:52] <kapace> hmm freenode must not be letting you pm me.,.
[09:52] <Rambo3> kevin try  iwpriv to set it up
[09:52] <haasteem> i updated from breezy to dapper last night, and now my sound is not working anymore... i believe it has something to do with pcmcia services... what might be the problem?
[09:52] <ynef> cyrilnmaddy: i'll try to help you
[09:52] <Papagena> How do I write an ISO image onto a harddrive partition?
[09:53] <greyscale> you dont
[09:53] <greyscale> Papagena, you burn the ISO to a CD
[09:53] <kevin> will do Rambo3, i'l let you know of the result in a minuite.
[09:53] <greyscale> and then reboot with that CD
[09:53] <kjm> utab : I've got to run.  But, I will be back in #ubuntu @ 7:30 if you are still having issues.
[09:53] <ynef> Papagena: using dd, but what do you want to accomplish?
[09:53] <lasindi_lcps> Hi all, I'm trying to connect to a Groupwise email server using Evolution, but everytime I log in it tells me it's "unable to authenticate" and prompts me again. I've tried as much as I can to configure it similarly to how I have the Groupwise client set up on my Windows box. Any ideas about configurations I should try?
[09:53] <greyscale> and assuming its first trying the CD to boot with, the ubuntu installer will fire up
[09:53] <buddhalover> lamego. i used terminal to make the thing.. i think i have the source somewhere.
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> kapace: you need to be identified to nickserv to send and received private messages on freenode.
[09:53] <lamego> buddhalover, patches are instaled over the source code
[09:53] <Comrade-Sergei> ok skype isnt letting me make outgoing calls like it should and its def a linux prob cause it works in windows
[09:53] <kapace> i am
[09:53] <kapace> o think
[09:53] <greyscale> fyrestrtr, FFS thats annoying
[09:53] <vdepizzol> Can I use gtk+ themes in motif apps?
[09:54] <evol-pusher> hey guys.....total nub when it comes to non-MS op sys's.  Are windows-based apps good to go using ubuntu?
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> greyscale: what is?
[09:54] <Papagena> ynef: I want to install Ubuntu on a computer with no CD or floppy, but one whose HDD I can extract and use with another computer.
[09:54] <greyscale> Needing that just for PM's
[09:54] <finalbeta> jrib, thnx found the thread sollution was ( sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libvte.so.9 /usr/lib/libvte.so.4 ) is there no "official" place for bugs like that? users just have to figure it out where the sollution is?
[09:54] <Papagena> ynef: So I want to put the Ubuntu install on the HDD and use it from there.
[09:54] <lamego> evol-pusher, the best apps to be using on ubuntu are linux apps :)
[09:54] <kapace> can you post it here or is it too big
[09:54] <ynef> Papagena: I don't think that's going to work, sadly
[09:54] <greyscale> kapace, do this in XCHAT: "/join #grey"
[09:54] <evol-pusher> lamego, right, but i was wondering about games and stuff, or do i need to do dual-boot for that?
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> evol-pusher: most people use linux apps on linux, but if there is something you need from windows and there is no linux equivalent, you can use wine to run it. Wine is a windows compatibility layer for linux.
[09:54] <jrib> finalbeta: check launchpad to see if a bug has been filed, watch the bot:
[09:54] <Papagena> ynef: Why not?
[09:54] <jrib> !bug
[09:54] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[09:55] <uber_mort> Hey all, quick question.  Is there any file extension in Ubuntu that will allow me to run something (a python script) without having to ./run in terminal?  I'm writing a configuration utility and I want users to just be able to double click it and use rather than having to open in a terminal.
[09:55] <lamego> finalbeta, did you had the problem using the ubuntu dapper official repositories ?
[09:55] <vdepizzol> Can I use gtk+ themes in motif apps?
[09:55] <CmdrBatGuano> gnome-sound-redorder doesn't want to redord from my Edirol UA-1X
[09:55] <Comrade-Sergei> HELP! ok skype isnt letting me make outgoing calls like it should and its def a linux prob cause it works in windows
[09:55] <Papagena> ynef: Well, can I somehow write something bootable to the HDD that will start a network install?
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> uber_mort: if you set the execute permissions, people can just double click it, and choose 'run'.
[09:55] <Comrade-Sergei> Papagena cmos?
[09:55] <finalbeta> lamego, I have added repo's for compiz. But the update ones are standard
[09:55] <ynef> Papagena: because writing an ISO file to a harddrive will only work if that ISO file came from a harddrive that is practically identical with the one you're writing it to
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> Comrade-Sergei: this is not the skype help channel :)
[09:56] <jsharpe> in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf there is no Directory Root that has /var/www/ as the root......where is that config located if it's not there?
[09:56] <uber_mort> fyrestrtr: There is no run option, only open which opens it in a text editor.  The exectute bit is set too.
[09:56] <TheGame> ynef: i dont have that setting in my bios
[09:56] <Papagena> Comrade-Sergei: How do you mean CMOS?
[09:56] <ynef> Papagena: you can do the actual install instead -- ubuntu will auto configure your devices when you boot up in the intended computer
[09:56] <Comrade-Sergei> fyrestrtr find one then
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> uber_mort: hrmm, on my system, it asks to open or run.
[09:56] <jrib> finalbeta: it may be compiz, I think someone in the thread mentioned that.  And I haven't received any updates for the troubled packages
[09:56] <Warbo> uber_mort: File extension? What a stupid idea
[09:56] <santa99> good evening
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> Comrade-Sergei: I would if I used skype.
[09:57] <TheGame> any1 know how to disable the touchpad
[09:57] <vdepizzol> Can I use gtk+ themes in motif apps?
[09:57] <FurryNemesis> Comrade-Sergei, still no joy?
[09:57] <Comrade-Sergei> Papagena most bios have a funtion in the boot order to boot from lam
[09:57] <santa99> !iptables
[09:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[09:57] <Comrade-Sergei> er lan
[09:57] <santa99> !iptable
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iptable - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <ynef> TheGame: hmm -- is the mouse PS/2 or USB? perhaps you can find somewhere in xorg.conf that can disable it
[09:57] <kjm> utab - one last shot in the dark......try resetting your router
[09:57] <sergio-me> hello
[09:57] <Comrade-Sergei> FurryNemesis no ufotunly
[09:57] <Papagena> ynef: So you are saying: extract HDD, put it in computer with CD, start Ubuntu install, when it asks to restart, shut down and remove HDD, replace in computer with no CD, resume install?
[09:57] <TheGame> ive tried xorg.conf but i cant get it to work
[09:57] <FurryNemesis> damn
[09:57] <uber_mort> Warbo: Well I'll take any solution I can get.  I just need it to run without having to open a terminal.  I'm trying to bring complete newbies over to Linux and I don't want their first experience to include a lot of terminal.  No use scaring em away early ;)
[09:57] <TheGame> theres a wiki online but when i try it it doesnt work
[09:57] <utab> kjm, how
[09:57] <sergio-me> i installed lots of lots of packages for grtting fonts, and i srill get errors
[09:57] <lamego> uber_mort, you could create a debian package to distribute your script
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> uber_mort: you can write a small wrapper in python that does it.
[09:58] <Comrade-Sergei> FurryNemesis i tried werba or what ever and they want 2 eur and i cant find one that works for land lines with a gui of debian based
[09:58] <sergio-me> i installed lots of lots of packages for getting fonts, and i still get errors
[09:58] <sergio-me> when converingfiles with fhostscript
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> uber_mort: fwiw, if you get rid of the extension, and set the execute bit, it should work.
[09:58] <Warbo> uber_mort: Double clicking an exectuable text file usually says "Do you want to display this file or run it in a terminal?"
[09:58] <ynef> Papagena: well, yeah -- except that it dosn't need to resume the install (unless it's changed for Dapper, don't really know) -- but yes, that's my suggestion
[09:58] <sergio-me> when converting files with ghostscript :'(
[09:58] <FurryNemesis> Comrade-Sergei, double damn
[09:58] <uber_mort> fyrestrtr:  How would I go about doing that?  The script is written in python already, and I'
[09:58] <uber_mort> have tried removing the extension.
[09:59] <Comrade-Sergei> FurryNemesis got a free one for land lines/
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> uber_mort: compile it as a binary.
[09:59] <ynef> Papagena: to make sure that the install doesn't do anything to the harddrive that is already in the computer with the CD, disconnect it so that only the intended HDD will be touched
[09:59] <uber_mort> Warbo: I'm trying to make it work in both ubuntu/kubuntu.  It seems as though KDE decides for you :-p
[09:59] <Warbo> uber_mort: I assume it starts with a "#!/usr/bin/env python" or "#!/usr/bin/python" line
[09:59] <buddhalover> lamego: how do i install the patch over the source code? does this happen prior to config and make?
[09:59] <uber_mort> warbo: Aye.  Fyrestrtr: I'll try that
[09:59] <vdepizzol> Can I use gtk+ themes in motif apps?
[09:59] <lamego> buddhalover, there is a debian package there, why are using the source ?
[09:59] <sergio-me> lamego: portugus?
[09:59] <utab> kjm, I am on a network at a universsity
[09:59] <Warbo> !repeat > vdepizzol
[09:59] <lamego> seraphim, yes, but not here, try #ubuntu.pt
[09:59] <uber_mort> thanks for the suggestions, be back to complain if it doesn't work ;)
[09:59] <lamego> ops -pt i mean
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> lamego: because one doesn't use debian packages in ubuntu, unless you like a broken system.
[10:00] <ynef> cyrilnmaddy: if you are not a registered user at the chat server, you cannot recieve private messages
[10:00] <buddhalover> lamego, i used the deb package i believe but i installed it through terminal.
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> buddhalover: what are you installing?
[10:00] <profoX`> Where can I find gdm's log ? .xsession-errors didn't give what I expected
[10:00] <lamego> buddhalover, so, why do you need the patch ? the debian patch already includes the patch...
[10:00] <Comrade-Sergei> anyone know a free program for ubuntu with a gui that can call landlines
[10:00] <nemik> network-manager applet on dapper for me won't see my wireless card, what is wrong?
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> profoX`: /var/log/gdm/
[10:01] <Fernand1> Hello
[10:01] <profoX`> fyrestrtr: oh.. right.. its a folder :) k
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> !wifi > nemik
[10:01] <ynef> nemik: is the card working correctly and just not showing up in the applet, or is it not working at all?
[10:01] <marky> yay it working, i managed to format another drive in a machine i got on my network to fat32 and paste 30gig down the hallway!
[10:01] <buddhalover> i already installed and its working already... i installed last-exit. a last fm player... the patch supposedly would allow me to save songs...
[10:01] <FurryNemesis> hahaha
[10:01] <marky> 11 hours left!
[10:01] <FurryNemesis> marky, nice
[10:01] <dockane> hi all... i recognized mixing sound from different applications is a common problem. i would like to use enemy territory and teamspeak parallel. my soundcard is Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 08) which i read is a hardware-mixing capable card. the howtos always describe howto get a software mixer started but what about my card?
[10:01] <buddhalover> the patch part i don't know how to do...
[10:01] <nemik> ynef: card is working great i'm connected now. just not showing up on the applet
[10:02] <Fernand1> does anyone know of a 'good' downloading program(like bittorrent, I guess) that can be downloaded from the Synaptic Package Manager?
[10:02] <marky> what a nightmare
[10:02] <FurryNemesis> Fernand1, bittorrent should be a default proggy for Dapper
[10:02] <FurryNemesis> shouldn't it?
[10:02] <buddhalover> lamego: i still can't save songs...
[10:02] <ynef> nemik: sorry if this is a stupid question, but you have tried to click on the drop down menu, right? ;-)
[10:02] <fyrestrtr> Fernand1: bittorrent is available already in dapper. Just double click any torrent file. Other programs include azureus, freeloader and frostwire.
[10:03] <marky> all because my xp collapsed on this duel boot laptop, lucky i got ubuntu and you patient guys to help me or i'd be shagged
[10:03] <Kyja> imagine if we only could get the wifi to go the full 54Mb ha
[10:03] <Papagena> ynef: Okay. Thanks. And you're sure the install doesn't need to do any hardware-specific configurations? Like processor-specific package installations or something? The computer with the CD drive has different hardware.
[10:03] <santa99> could anyone tell me a HOWTO for iptables on Ubuntu
[10:03] <buddhalover> Fernand1: Azureus or Bittornado
[10:03] <Fernand1> FurryNemesis: My ubuntu did not come with any downloading program.
[10:03] <Femoig> !search
[10:03] <Papagena> ynef: But, they are both i386 systems.
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about search - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <Comrade-Sergei> anyone know a free program for ubuntu with a gui that can call landlines
[10:03] <Warbo> MLDonkey and GTK-Gnutella are P2P apps as well (MLDonkey can do bittorrent)
[10:03] <haasteem> i updated from breezy to dapper last night, and now my sound is not working anymore... i believe it has something to do with pcmcia services... what might be the problem?
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> santa99: install firestarter or shorewall
[10:03] <ynef> Papagena: nope -- ubuntu by default installs a kernel that works on 486 and up (I think 386 support was dropped a while ago)
[10:03] <greyscale> lol, kapace's problem was they were using Ubuntu 4 of all things
[10:03] <nemik> ynef: hehe, yes but it only has enable networking checked and nothing else.
[10:03] <santa99> fyrestrtr, I would prefer writing the iptables myself
[10:03] <buddhalover> lamego: if the patch is already included then how do I save the songs? how do i apply the patch?
[10:04] <Papagena> ynef: Okay. Cool. Thanks.
[10:04] <ynef> Papagena: you're welcome -- good luck
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> santa99: any iptables tutorial would do then. There is nothing exotic about iptables in ubuntu.
[10:04] <santa99> fyrestrtr, ok
[10:04] <Comrade-Sergei> anyone know a free program for ubuntu with a gui that can call landlines
[10:04] <marky> big shout outs to fyrestrtr and lamego you guys are the  best
[10:05] <lamego> buddhalover, you will need to get the source, apply the patch, and build it
[10:05] <ynef> nemik: hmm -- well, then I can't help -- I was hoping for a "help me get my network working" kind of question :)
[10:05] <santa99> fyrestrtr, do you know how i can determine if iptables are activated in my kernel
[10:05] <nemik> ynef: no problem, i'll look through the docs
[10:05] <fyrestrtr> santa99: they are activated by default.
[10:05] <Kyja> Comrade-Sergei: have you tried doing a search on the pachage managers or at sourceforge?
[10:05] <santa99> fyrestrtr, well thx
[10:05] <Comrade-Sergei> come on and help me already! anyone know a free program for ubuntu with a gui that can call land lines?
[10:05] <fyrestrtr> santa99: unless you compiled a custom kernel and specifically chose to not enable iptables, you have iptables.
[10:05] <Comrade-Sergei> kyja what do i search for
[10:05] <buddhalover> lamego: oh so i must start over again...
[10:05] <lamego> buddhalover, have you installed version ubuntu2 ?
[10:06] <Kyja> try useing landline
[10:06] <santa99> fyrestrtr, I have a default kernel running
[10:06] <Comrade-Sergei> you got to love the user frendly ness ofwindows
[10:06] <buddhalover> yes ubuntu2
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> santa99: then you have iptables.
[10:06] <santa99> fyrestrtr, ok thx
[10:06] <Comrade-Sergei> Kyja nothing
[10:06] <bam__> Hi I was wondering if there was any keyboard shortcut to change dekstops?
[10:06] <goudkov> huy guys, is there a way to list the hardware specs of ram? like frquency and the number of dimms?
[10:06] <uber_mort> fyrestrtr: I just compiled the python script and now it just says that it can't be read.
[10:07] <Warbo> bam__: alt-left/right
[10:07] <buddhalover> last-exit is running well. but no saving of songs. lamego.. so i uninstall... find source... apply patch ? (copy paste?) then compile?
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> bam__: ctrl+alt+left and aright arrow keys
[10:07] <Warbo> ctrl-alt sorry
[10:07] <gbauman> hmm, Quake runs really slow under xgl
[10:07] <nox-Hand> Can anyone help me get mpd to work? I just cant get it working :(
[10:07] <gbauman> everything else is speedy
[10:07] <ynef> bam__: you can configure that yourself, at System->Preferences->Keyboard shortcuts
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> gbauman: that's expected.
[10:07] <lamego> buddhalover, yes
[10:07] <bam__> KDE
[10:07] <FurryNemesis> gbauman, have you tried switching back to metacity? It worked for me in tremulous
[10:07] <lamego> buddhalover, not copy paste, you need to use the patch utility
[10:07] <finalbeta> Someone who can help me use my TV card inside VLC? It works fine in TVtime, but I can't get it to work in VLC :/
[10:07] <lamego> to apply the patch
[10:07] <gbauman> fyrestrtr: But I disabled indirection for fullscreen windows :D
[10:07] <Fernand1> I have a question.
[10:07] <Comrade-Sergei> Kyja?
[10:08] <buddhalover> patch utility? lamego.
[10:08] <Kyja> Comrade-Sergei: in my opinion windows did not get friendly until xp and that was a moma lisa smile.
[10:08] <ynef> Fernand1: someone might have an answer.
[10:08] <Fernand1> Where/how can I get the Universe/Multiverse repositories?
[10:08] <Kyja> mona
[10:08] <buddhalover> how do i use the patch utility onto the source?
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> gbauman: with xgl running, you are not using direct rendering, which will affect games. Use xinit if you want to run a game with acceleration.
[10:08] <ynef> !repositories
[10:08] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:08] <Comrade-Sergei> Kyja i think it was since 98 due to every thing was compatible to it
[10:08] <gbauman> fyrestrtr: roger
[10:08] <ynef> !repositories > Fernand1
[10:08] <lamego> buddhalover, path -p1 < file.diff
[10:08] <Comrade-Sergei> so what do we got for free land line callers.
[10:09] <Fernand1> thank you
[10:09] <fyrestrtr> Comrade-Sergei: a freakin' phone.
[10:09] <ynef> Fernand1: you're welcome -- the Wiki has tons of great info
[10:09] <Kyja> Comrade-Sergei: You may be right =]  anyhow. sourceforge is an excelent place to look for open source projects of all kinds.
[10:09] <Comrade-Sergei> NO i have no WIRELESS PHONE TO USE IN MY ROOM
[10:09] <FurryNemesis> argh'
[10:09] <Comrade-Sergei> id like to make a private call once in a while
[10:09] <buddhalover> lamego: i can't patch the already installed program? uninstall and recompile is the best move?
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> buddhalover: you patch sources, not binary files.
[10:10] <lamego> buddhalover, you can't patch the installed program, the installed program is a binary, patches are source code patches
[10:10] <lamego> so yes, uninstall, patch and compile
[10:10] <uber_mort> So, anyone have a suggestion on how to make a script execute rather than open in text editor?
[10:10] <buddhalover> fyrestrtr lamego: okay. thank you both for the help. :)
[10:10] <hangfire> chmod -x
[10:11] <buddhalover> i will try my best to make it work. :D
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> uber_mort: here's a thought, change the default action for that file type to 'bash'
[10:11] <Comrade-Sergei> so i can assume
[10:11] <TheGame> god dog
[10:11] <TheGame> i still cant disable this stupid thing
[10:11] <Comrade-Sergei> out of the 825 people here no one knows a free landline phone caller?
[10:11] <uber_mort> fyrestrtr: That requires the user to do that though.  I need something so that the user won't have to toy with system settings right off the bat.  I want this to be as simple as humanly possible to use.
[10:11] <hangfire> skype or wengo
[10:11] <Kyja> I I dont do phones
[10:11] <Kyja> bla
[10:12] <TheGame> has any1 here had success turning off their touchpa
[10:12] <TheGame> d
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> uber_mort: you want a user to double click something, and it runs without a prompt?
[10:12] <ubuntu> hey fellows
[10:12] <uber_mort> fyrestrtr: Yessir
[10:12] <hangfire> comrade sergei> skype or wengophone
[10:12] <buddhalover> hello ubuntu
[10:12] <marky> hi ubuntu
[10:12] <Comrade-Sergei> hangfire doesnt wengo want 2 EUR
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> uber_mort: package it as a .deb -- then when they double click it, it will 'install'
[10:12] <ubuntu> hi marky
[10:12] <FurryNemesis> hangfire, he tried those
[10:12] <lamego> uber_mort, you can do that by creating a .deb
[10:12] <Kyja> Comrade-Sergei: realy, have you looked on sourceforge ???
[10:12] <ubuntu> hi buddhalover
[10:12] <Comrade-Sergei> hangfire and skype wont call for some reason
[10:12] <finalbeta> Someone who can help me use my TV card inside VLC? It works fine in TVtime, but I can't get it to work in VLC :/
[10:12] <lamego> like i have told some hundred lines above :P
[10:13] <hangfire> skype will call free if the other person has skype on their pc
[10:13] <Comrade-Sergei> Kyja im stil trying to find sourceforge (noob)
[10:13] <marky> ubuntu your the best ! WE SPEAK YOUR NAME!  :)
[10:13] <Kyja> 1 sec
[10:13] <ubuntu> marky:  lol, ty
[10:13] <Fernand1> I had a problem while installing the Universe/Multiverse
[10:13] <uber_mort> fyrestrtr / lamego: Its just a simple configuration utility to make WPA_supplicant work on my campus network.  I need it to run rather than install per say.  Its interactive.
[10:13] <Fernand1> can anyone help me?
[10:13] <Comrade-Sergei> i got VA software
[10:13] <Fernand1> I followed the rules that !repositories gave me
[10:14] <Kyja> http://sourceforge.net/
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> uber_mort: slap a gtk interface around it.
[10:14] <hangfire> comrad sergei> also try Dialpad
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> uber_mort: you can't have 'interaction' without expecting the user to do something.
[10:14] <ubuntu> fyrestrtr:  hello
[10:14] <uber_mort> fyrestrtr: It is graphical.
[10:14] <Flannel> Fernand1: what problems you having?
[10:14] <Toran> Hey, does anyone know if there is a way to sync tracks played by my ipod to last.fm?
[10:14] <lamego> uber_mort, the .deb would create a shortcut than can be doubleclicked, is not that you are trying to achieve ?
[10:14] <stormzoeker> What is good tv software for a haupage pvr150?
[10:14] <Comrade-Sergei> what is dial pad hangfire
[10:14] <hangfire> its yahoos free phone
[10:14] <RingerE> http://www.wsmfm.com/dogs/entries  vote for molly, the cockerspaniel... if she gets enuogh votes i win crap ;o)
[10:15] <uber_mort> lamego: I guess that would work.  I just want them to double click the script, get the gui window, fill in the fields and be done :P
[10:15] <Kyja> Comrade-Sergei: also here is the sstart of all networking projects http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove_list.php?form_cat=150
[10:15] <Comrade-Sergei> hangfire will it work in ubuntu and is it free and will it call landlines
[10:15] <ubuntu> any1 here works with pgp tools?
[10:15] <koen> Hi all
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> uber_mort: hrmm -- I have one hint for you. Look at the theme-switch app at the compiz.net forums, it a .py script that doesn't popup any prompts.
[10:15] <uber_mort> lamego: Its not really something they'll need to use a lot or anything.
[10:15] <Fernand1> Flannel: As I followed the rules in the link that !repositories gave me to install the Universe/Multiverse repositories, I got an error right when I was reloading the Synaptic Package Manager.
[10:15] <ubuntu> use them to encrypt mails
[10:15] <hangfire> yes it calls landlines, not sure if it works in ubunut
[10:15] <lamego> uber_mort, well, with the -dev it would be, click on the web link to install it, then click on the shortcute to run it...
[10:15] <lamego> shortcut
[10:15] <kevin> Rambo3, do you mind if i pm you?
[10:16] <Fernand1> Flannel: I'm putting the error on the pastebin right now so you can see.
[10:16] <Flannel> Fernand1: alright.  Can you pastebin your sources.list? (run: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list )
[10:16] <uber_mort> fyrestrtr: Oooh, thanks.  Is it the one Quinn wrote for GCWD?
[10:16] <koen> Hey, my colors went down all of the sudden. I don't know why. I guess it's an update or something. Reboot didn't work.
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> uber_mort: can't you just have your users hit alt+f2 type one line, and hit enter? How dumb are your users?
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> uber_mort: yeah.
[10:16] <catfox> hi all, does anyone know why i get this error when trying to compile tcl: /configure: line 7653: syntax error near unexpected token `)'
[10:16] <catfox> ./configure: line 7653: `       OSF*)'
[10:16] <ubuntu> aaw no1 into pgp
[10:16] <Comrade-Sergei> hangfire is ot free?
[10:16] <sid> Debian sarge has 14 discs, Debian etch will have about 20 discs. What does Ubuntu do with all the packages that can be installed with multiverse/universe. Are they on a disc somewhere for people that don't have internet connections?
[10:17] <finalbeta> When I want to use my TV card inside VLC : "[00000325]  v4l demuxer error: chroma selection failed
[10:17] <finalbeta> "
[10:17] <uber_mort> fyrestrtr: I'm assuming that they're mentally handicapped.  I'm trying to get people who have never even heard of Linux running it
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> catfox: any particular reason you are compiling tcl?
[10:17] <lamego> catfox, because that configure script is broken
[10:17] <Fernand1> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21016 that's the error. I'm going to pastebin my source.list now.
[10:17] <lamego> catfox, you can install tcl from synaptic
[10:17] <catfox> fyrestrtr: i need threading support for a project
[10:17] <catfox> lamego: it isn't compiled with threading enabled, so need to build from source
[10:17] <kit^> Hasanyone used Last FM here and isntalled it etc?
[10:18] <catfox> lamego: do you know whats 'broken' about the script, so i can look at fixing it
[10:18] <koen> kit^: I have.
[10:18] <ALIanS> hi people
[10:18] <lamego> catfox, does it have a configure.ac or configure.in ?
[10:19] <kit^> koen: did u download the targz of Qt from the trolltech site and then got it all working. Also is Last FM with having?
[10:19] <catfox> lamego: configure.in
[10:19] <lamego> or well, point me to the source link
[10:19] <lamego> catfox, that means you can regenreate configure with autoconf
[10:19] <buddhalover> lamego: can't find the program in synaptic... how do i uninstall?
[10:19] <catfox> lamego: i'll have a go, cheers
[10:19] <Fernand1> Flannel: Here is my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21018
[10:19] <lamego> there could be also an autogen.sh script or similar
[10:19] <lamego> bye :)
[10:20] <lamego> buddhalover, if it is not on synaptic, it is not installed, at least not using a debian package...
[10:20] <koen> kit^: I just downloaded the binaries.
[10:20] <ALIanS> people what it s country server ?
[10:20] <Comrade-Sergei> hangfire dial pad is not free
[10:20] <kit^> koen: where from
[10:20] <ALIanS>     ?
[10:20] <koen> kit^: Extract is to ~/opt/ and create a launcher.
[10:20] <ALIanS> Russia
[10:20] <tabman> I swhould be able to run Google Talk using Wine ?
[10:20] <koen> kit^: Hold on a sec, ill look.
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> tabman: you want to talk or chat?
[10:21] <kit^> koen: create a launcher ??!?!
[10:21] <buddhalover> lamego: i can run it from applications...
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> kit^: right click on panel
[10:21] <bigfuzzyjesus> if only they made google desktop for linux :'(
[10:21] <tabman> fyrestrtr: talk
[10:21] <ALIanS>    
[10:21] <ubuntu> bigfuzzyjesus:  they r coming up
[10:21] <ALIanS>   
[10:21] <kit^> fyrestrtr: comprendais thanks
[10:21] <tabman> Google is such a big supporter of open-source then why don't they make products for linux ?
[10:21] <ubuntu> bigfuzzyjesus:  did u chk there site , they have picasa now for linux?
[10:21] <ALIanS>   6  ?
[10:22] <koen> kit^: Download: http://www.last.fm/tools/dodownload.php?platform=Linux and extract it to ~/opt/
[10:22] <haasteem> i updated from breezy to dapper last night, and now my sound is not working anymore... i believe it has something to do with pcmcia services... what might be the problem?
[10:22] <Comrade-Sergei> lol tabman
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> tabman: they already published their extensions to jabber that allow voice.
[10:22] <tjb891> will opening a port on my NAT for bittorent make ubuntu vulnerable?
[10:22] <crazy_penguin> Good night to all! Sleep well!
[10:22] <looktj> hi i converted to ubuntu christian edition
[10:22] <koen> kit^: Yeah, a launcher. In Gnome a shortcut/startup icon is called a launcher.
[10:22] <ubuntu> haasteem: hi
[10:22] <tabman> fyrestrtr: how can I voice ? using Gaim ?
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> tjb891: vulnerable to porn downloads, sure.
[10:22] <ubuntu> tabman:  u ant
[10:22] <Flannel> Fernand1: alright, If you go here: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic  You'll see some commands at the top, with some gpg commands, you'll need to do that (add the keys for that repository).  You'll have to generate a sources.list from that page for your repositories (including CA country code and stuff) to get the keys though.
[10:22] <ubuntu> cant
[10:22] <haasteem> ubuntu: hi
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> tabman: ekiga.
[10:22] <ALIanS> sombody tolk with me & =)
[10:23] <ubuntu> haasteem: all alsa installed?
[10:23] <ALIanS> ?
[10:23] <ubuntu> ALIanS: hi dude
[10:23] <ubuntu> ALIanS: whats up?
[10:23] <ALIanS> eee
[10:23] <buddhalover> lamego: it exists in my comp. i didn't unpack it... i used the terminal...
[10:23] <kit^> koen: why ~/opt/
[10:23] <ALIanS> ooo
[10:23] <santa99> lol
[10:23] <santa99> was war das jetzt ?
[10:23] <ALIanS> good =)
[10:23] <santa99> what was this
[10:23] <Comrade-Sergei> anghh net split!
[10:23] <Fernand1> ...
[10:23] <jeff_hann> whoa
[10:23] <Comrade-Sergei> almost there
[10:24] <ALIanS> what hell goin up ?
[10:24] <ubuntu> wow talk bout rush :o
[10:24] <crazy_penguin> netsplit
[10:24] <finalbeta> Where do I get v4l-info ?
[10:24] <Comrade-Sergei> major lag now
[10:24] <Flannel> Just hang tight guys, this should be over soon
[10:24] <koen> kit^: That is a default place to put your own programs. If you want for all your user to use it extract is in /opt/
[10:24] <Seveas> split splat
[10:24] <bigfuzzyjesus> NETSLPIT!!!!!
[10:24] <haasteem> ubuntu: hmm... there is something wrong with that also i think
[10:24] <Comrade-Sergei> hey its seveas!
[10:24] <Seveas> just ride the storm people ;)
[10:24] <shining> wtf
[10:24] <Phoul> Hello
[10:24] <ubuntu> haasteem:  reinstall alsa with aumix
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> sorry about that, let me go plug in the cable.
[10:24] <jordanau> everyone left to get a snack at the same time...
[10:24] <haasteem> ubuntu: here is what i get when i do "aplay"
[10:24] <ubuntu> then restart there services
[10:24] <ALIanS> ooooooo
[10:24] <Phoul> Anyone know which keymap i should use for a MS ergonomic keyboard
[10:24] <Phoul> ?
[10:24] <haasteem> ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1305:(_snd_pcm_hw_open) Invalid value for card
[10:24] <haasteem> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:819:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[10:24] <haasteem> aplay: main:544: audio open error: No such device
[10:24] <Comrade-Sergei> what does it do boot all the unactive users?
[10:24] <tabman> fyrestrtr: i mean voice through Google talk ?
[10:24] <finalbeta> Where do I get v4l-info ?
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> Phoul: normal us 104 key
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> tabman: I don't know how compatible it is with wine.
[10:25] <kit^> koen: how come not in /usr/share?
[10:25] <Zambezi> Seveas, There you are! I've been looking for you.
[10:25] <buddhalover> lamego: it exists in my comp. i didn't unpack it... i used the terminal...
[10:25] <ALIanS> what people is on the channal ???
[10:25] <ALIanS> whats ?
[10:25] <Zambezi> Seveas, I tried to connect, but it said SSL wasn't activated.
[10:25] <tabman> fyrestrtr: ok anywayz one can always try, I just came to know that there exists a software like WINE, it seems to be pretty cool
[10:25] <Seveas> Zambezi, connect where?
[10:25] <haasteem> ubuntu: i think the cause is that just before the end of the upgrade process, there was an error and i had to abort the process
[10:25] <koen> kit^: If you want that is allright with me.
[10:25] <lamego> buddhalover, how did you installed it ?
[10:25] <lamego> which was the command ?
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> tabman: look up your app in http://appdb.winehq.org
[10:26] <Zambezi> Seveas, To a FTP with Implicit SSL. I tried you version.
[10:26] <lamego> buddhalover, you could have run it from some place where you unpacked the bin
[10:26] <lamego> without installing it
[10:26] <buddhalover> first was ./configure then make, then make check then make install
[10:26] <buddhalover> i did this in the temp folder
[10:26] <buddhalover> tmp
[10:27] <koen> Does anyone else lost some colordepth with the last updates?
[10:27] <kit^> koen: I downloaded that binary but when i extracted it. it said run the qmake command but obs i didnt have that so downloaded qt did you have to do the same
[10:27] <haasteem> ubuntu: aumix... seems i don't have that package
[10:27] <Seveas> koen, are you using quinstorrm (compiz) repos?
[10:28] <koen> Seveas: No.
[10:28] <koen> kit^: Don't know can't remember.
[10:28] <kit^> koen: cheers dude
[10:28] <mcphail> Seveas: this compiz issue is a bad one
[10:28] <koen> kit^: Try installing QT with synaptic.
[10:28] <jn> hey what is the correct way to install a cpkg
[10:28] <Fernand1> Flannel: Do you mind repeating what you said about my problem?
[10:29] <Seveas> mcphail, no, the guy behind it does Bad Things
[10:29] <mcphail> Seveas: syanptic doesn't open, fonts messed up...
[10:29] <Seveas> Really Bad Things
[10:29] <Seveas> mcphail, try this: dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall | cut -f1 > output.txt
[10:29] <Seveas> mcphail, err wait
[10:29] <mcphail> Seveas: the attitude on #ubuntu-xgl is "tough luck, alpha software"
[10:29] <Seveas> mcphail, try this: dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall | cut -f1 | xargs -n50 apt-cache policy > output.txt
[10:30] <Seveas> then opne output.txt and find all packages you installed from quinn
[10:30] <Seveas> and downgrade them
[10:30] <mcphail> Seveas: ok, thanks
[10:30] <koen> Seveas, In the /etc/X11/xorg.conf the defaultdepth is 24 but is aint.
[10:30] <Flannel> Fernand1: alright, If you go here: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic  You'll see some commands at the top, with some gpg commands, you'll need to do that (add the keys for that repository).  You'll have to generate a sources.list from that page for your repositories (including CA country code and stuff) to get the keys though.
[10:31] <sethk> it is somewhat foolish to load alpha software and complain about the consequences - providing, of course, that it is clearly labeled as alpha
[10:31] <koen> Seveas, Also gdm is low on colordepth.
[10:31] <jn> hwo do i install this cpkg? i can extract to any given diretory but i think each folder that is in it is supposted to go diff places
[10:32] <haasteem> sethk: did you have some time to ponder on my problem?
[10:32] <kit^> koen: theres 4 packages under qt4 shall i install them all?
[10:32] <Fernand1> Flannel: And what do I do from the generated sources.list?
[10:32] <koen> kit^: Heck, why not. :)
[10:32] <Fernand1> WHat do I do with it*
[10:32] <koen> kit^: You can always uninstall them.
[10:32] <kit^> koen: one of themes gotta work :)
[10:33] <koen> kit^: Hehe
[10:33] <Flannel> Fernand1: nothing, it'll just tell you the keys to add with that top script
[10:33] <gabi> su
[10:33] <kit^> koen: actually ones the designer, ones the configuration tool, one is the docs, and one is the dev tools - which one do i want?!?!
[10:34] <drew> How do I allow incoming connections from non-localhost to mysql5?
[10:34] <mcphail> Seveas: do you think it is worthwhile appending anything to the xgl wiki about the current problems?
[10:34] <Fernand1> oh
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> drew: edit the configuration of mysql to listen on your network ip address, then add users that are allowed to connect from another ip address.
[10:34] <Fernand1> okay
[10:34] <Xyc0> How can I connect through wifi to a non-encrypted AP?
[10:34] <Fernand1> I have no idea what to check off though.
[10:34] <koen> kit^: Hold on, I'll have a look.
[10:34] <Fernand1> I don't even know what I have(dapper, hoary, or breezy)
[10:35] <drew> fyrestrtr, thanks.
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> Fernand1: lsb_release -a
[10:36] <koen> kit^: I only have libqt3-mt and my Last.fm player runs.
[10:36] <Xyc0> When I try to connect to a non-wep encrypted AP it times out, anyone know why?
[10:36] <koen> kit^: :)
[10:36] <Elios> back again
[10:37] <Elios> whats the package name for the sql server
[10:37] <lamego> Elios, mysql-server ?
[10:37] <Elios> lol
[10:37] <lamego> it depends on the server you want
[10:37] <Elios> ah
[10:37] <Elios> one that works with webmin
[10:37] <Fernand1> thanks fyrestr
[10:37] <kit^> koen: shall i search for libqt3 get it if i dont have it installed then make a lunacher to the extracted binary?
[10:37] <Flannel> Elios: which servers work with webmin?
[10:38] <Elios> i have no clue
[10:38] <koen> kit^: Jeps
[10:38] <Elios> MySQL
[10:38] <Elios> it looksl its looking for
[10:38] <lamego> it should work with mysql
[10:38] <Elios> looks like
[10:38] <Elios> i did apt-get install mysql
[10:38] <Elios> and it dont work
[10:38] <kit^> koen: not libqt4 - core
[10:38] <lamego> i said, mysql-server
[10:39] <Elios> ah ok
[10:39] <magical_t> hi, can anyone tell me what the 'scores' mean when installing things with weird dependencies using aptitude.. it tells me one of my 'solutions' has 'a score of -100'
[10:39] <Thunderpants> Elios, did u apt-get install mysql-server?
[10:39] <Elios> just did lol
[10:39] <Elios> XD
[10:39] <koen> kit^: that will work to I guess.
[10:40] <sethk> koen, that will work too, not to
[10:40] <Zambezi> Anyone know how I can connect to a FTP using Implicit SSL? I tried a version of gftp with SSL precompiled, but it complains. It says SSL is not activated. I'm using gftp-text
[10:40] <Fernand1> FLannel: In the web page that you gave me. Do I check off "Packages" and "SOurces" for both sections?
[10:40] <koen> sethk: Sorry. :)
[10:40] <sethk> koen, :)
[10:40] <lamego> Zambezi, tried nautilus ?
[10:41] <kit^> koen: i installed the qt3 - mt shall i now just make a launcher for Last FM and should work?
[10:42] <Luke> I just installed this new font stuff and it made my gtk2 insanely slow. is there any way to fix this
[10:42] <lamego> uninstall it :) ?
[10:43] <kit^> koen: woooo its working now sick :)
[10:43] <frfx> how do i remove a directory without removing each subdirectory?
[10:43] <Elios> hmm
[10:43] <lamego> frfx, you can't you need to make it empty (if i understood your question)
[10:43] <Xyc0> Do AP's have to be WEP encrypted to connect in Dapper?
[10:44] <Luke> Xyc0: no
[10:44] <Elios> cant seem to get webmin to want to run
[10:44] <Elios> >.>
[10:44] <TheEye> i have an ubuntu problllllem i need help
[10:44] <TheEye> ????
[10:44] <Thunderpants> !ask
[10:44] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:44] <Luke> does anyone know how to get more servers in gtk-gnutella?
[10:44] <TheEye> i put the install cd in my ibook and loadit up
[10:44] <cry0gen> Luke: How many do you get? 4?
[10:44] <TheEye> i type install
[10:44] <frfx> lamego: so if i have a directory with 100 subdirs i need to remove them each manual? hmm..
[10:44] <Luke> yea
[10:44] <Fernand1> Flannel: In the web page that you gave me. Do I check off "Packages" and "SOurces" for both sections?
[10:44] <Luke> cry0gen: yea
[10:44] <Thunderpants> !enter
[10:44] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[10:44] <cry0gen> Luke: that's the maximum.
[10:44] <Dodzey> anyone know of a way to remove the vertical seperate that is to the left of the window list (and notification area) on the panel?
[10:44] <TheEye> then it sends me to open firmware
[10:45] <cry0gen> You would need to hard-code it in there to allow for more than 4.
[10:45] <Luke> cry0gen: since when? I used to have like 400
[10:45] <lamego> frfx, no, if you delete the top dir, the subdir will be automatically deleted
[10:45] <ebel> TheEye, I am also looking to ubuntu-ize my ibook. :)
[10:45] <lamego> i mean, using nautilus
[10:45] <cry0gen> 4 Peer's
[10:45] <koen> kit^: Nice!
[10:45] <Thunderpants> TheEye, i have
[10:45] <cry0gen> but, you can have as many leafs as you want.
[10:45] <Thunderpants> the answer
[10:45] <Thunderpants> but
[10:45] <Thunderpants> i cant
[10:45] <Xyc0> Luke: why does my connection attempt time out when the same AP is non-encrypted?
[10:45] <Thunderpants> read
[10:45] <frfx> lamego: no, the terminal says something like "dir is not empty"
[10:45] <Thunderpants> ur question
[10:45] <Seveas> !enter
[10:45] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[10:45] <cry0gen> frfx: gotta purge it :)
[10:45] <Luke> Xyc0: could be something to do with your network card specifically
[10:45] <Luke> Xyc0: check wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:46] <cry0gen> dpkg --purge program ;) it'll remove the dir's with confs etc.
[10:46] <lamego> frfx, oh terminal, rm -r dir
[10:46] <TheEye> ebell good luck ive been tring for 3 weeks no luck so far
[10:46] <lamego> -r = recursive
[10:46] <kit^> koen: cheers for help bro
[10:46] <lamego> frfx, man rm
[10:46] <hopeseekr> hello.  I am trying to figure out how to install Vim 7.0.  I *assume* I need to *somehow* upgrade to the expiermental apt repository...unfrotunately, i can't find this URL.  Help??
[10:46] <cry0gen> hopeseekr: forums.
[10:46] <Seveas> !seveas > hopeseekr
[10:46] <Seveas> cry0gen, he's HERE for help, not on the forums
[10:46] <koen> kit^: np
[10:46] <hopeseekr> thank you Seveas
[10:46] <frfx> lamego: that was the command i need..thanks a lot
[10:46] <cry0gen> I saw a post on vim7 on the forums :)
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> what's so great about vim 7?
[10:46] <Seveas> hopeseekr, ubotu sent you a message, in the backports section of that repo you can find vim 7.0
[10:47] <Chrono86> hello everybody...on ubuntu for the first time and I have a question...
[10:47] <cry0gen> only took two seconds to see it.
[10:47] <cry0gen> Seveas: what's your repo?
[10:47] <hopeseekr> vim7 has a WHOLE lot of new stuff, like tabs and stuff
[10:47] <lamego> frfx, man the is the most usefull command on the terminal :P
[10:47] <Thunderpants> !ask
[10:47] <Seveas> !seveas > cry0gen
[10:47] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:47] <kit^> koen: the joys of free music to listen too :)
[10:47] <cry0gen> I just built the package myself lol
[10:47] <Tuquito> alguien que escriba en espaol?
[10:47] <Flannel> !es
[10:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:47] <lamego> Tuquito, try #ubuntu-es
[10:47] <Thunderpants> !es Tuquito
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es Tuquito - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <Luke> cry0gen: after leaving gtk-gnutella open for a while i've got way more servers now
[10:47] <Thunderpants> !
[10:47] <cry0gen> yeah
[10:47] <cry0gen> Luke: they're leafs
[10:47] <sergio-me> what do you se to convert PDF->PCL?
[10:47] <Luke> cry0gen: aaah. how do I get more leaves then?
[10:47] <lmosher> what's the apt-get package that I need to install my kernel headers?
[10:47] <sergio-me> use*
[10:47] <ebel> Is there a specific ubuntu powerpc/apple hardware channel?
[10:47] <Fernand1> Hello.
[10:47] <Chrono86> I've been searching the forums...but I can't find a clear-cut way to install nvidia drivers on an amd64 system...
[10:48] <Fernand1> I have a question
[10:48] <Seveas> lmosher, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:48] <koen> kit^: Yeah, I know. It's great.
[10:48] <TheEye> !ask  what is wrong and how do i fix it when i try to install ubuntu on an ibook and instead of installing it sends me to open firm ware
[10:48] <lmosher> Seveas, lol... figures. thanks :)
[10:48] <kit^> koen: and whatever you want + you get similar bands so cuts out the rubbish
[10:48] <Fernand1> about installing the Universe/Multiverse repositories
[10:48] <ebel> Chrono86, most binary drivers are x84 only. Though I hear nvidia have x86_64 binary drivers available....
[10:48] <Seveas> ebel, ati too ;)
[10:49] <eternalswd> TheEye, do you have a live cd?
[10:49] <TheEye> i have both
[10:49] <Chrono86> yeah they didn't work though...gave me an error about binary sources?
[10:49] <lmosher> yeah I was gonna say I had drivers for my ati9800pro, but I switched back to 32bit linux anyway
[10:49] <frfx> lamego: i know..but its pretty unclear
[10:49] <ebel> Seveas, didn't know about ati.. :)
[10:49] <Fernand1> I was told to go to http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic and generate a sources.list key from there, and then run the 2 terminal codes up top. BUt I don't know what to check off in the source-o-matic
[10:49] <LinkSlice> anyone in here run mythtv on ubuntu?
[10:49] <TheEye> and they both do the same thing
[10:49] <hector> hola
[10:49] <s0me_kid> after I installed ubuntu it woudln't boot into GUI :(
[10:49] <Elios> ok
[10:49] <hector> alguien me puede ayudar a instalar el amsn
[10:49] <frfx> !es
[10:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:49] <Elios> webmin keeps failing to start when i install it
[10:49] <Elios> setup.sh: line 719: [: !=: unary operator expected
[10:49] <eternalswd> TheEye, then boot from the live cd and it should bring up Ubuntu and there should be an installer on the desktop
[10:49] <lamego> frfx, the man says: -r remove directories and their contents recursively
[10:49] <Elios> i get that for
[10:49] <lamego> is that uncear :P ?
[10:50] <Elios> Changing ownership and permissions ..
[10:50] <Elios> setup.sh: line 719: [: !=: unary operator expected
[10:50] <TheEye> tried it
[10:50] <Elios> that
[10:50] <Fernand1> Can anyone help me create a sources.list from http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic ???
[10:50] <Seveas> !webmin
[10:50] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[10:50] <Elios> heh
[10:50] <Elios> nice
[10:50] <TheEye> doesnt work it sends me to open firmware when i tryto boot it in any way shape or form
[10:50] <s0me_kid> exit
[10:50] <frfx> lamego: ok i will look there next time. but why i dont need to use "rmdir"? thats the command for removing dirs, isnt it?
[10:50] <s0me_kid> quit
[10:51] <TheEye> im quit puzzled at this
[10:51] <Zambezi> lamego, No. I'm using Xubuntu on this and I would like to use the client on a computer without X.
[10:52] <Chrono86> guys when I try to install nvidia's amd64 drivers it tells me it can't find the system utility 'ld' and that to make sure I have the package 'binutils' installed...what should I do?
[10:52] <Fernand1> Please :( I need some really quick help on installing the UNiverse/Multiverse repositories. I was told to go to http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic and make a sources.list, then run the 2 lines up top with the key I got from the source-o-matic. But I don't know which things to check off in the source-o-matic.
[10:52] <Seveas> Chrono86, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:53] <frfx> lamego: why no rmdir?
[10:53] <Chrono86> ok doing that now
[10:53] <ebel> Fernand1, Can you not enable Univers/Multiverse from Synaptic?
[10:53] <lamego> frfx, because you want to remove not only dirs
[10:53] <mcphail> Seveas: back to normal now. Thanks
[10:53] <lamego> you do not
[10:53] <lamego> erm
[10:53] <ezenu> stupid basic unix question: I have a program that takes command line arguments as input (no standard input), then processes them. Is there anyway I can store a specific set of command line arguments in a file, then call the program with the file?
[10:53] <Fernand1> nope
[10:53] <Fernand1> I got errors
[10:53] <ebel> Fernand1, What kind?
[10:54] <lamego> ezenu, echo $* > file
[10:54] <frfx> lamego: ok thanks a lot
[10:54] <lamego> np :)
[10:54] <Seveas> ezenu, cat file | xargs program
[10:54] <Chrono86> I'd love to keep using linux...I've used it on and off for years but one major problem keeps me from keeping it on my system...dependancies, dependancies, dependancies lol....they are evil
[10:54] <flasher> the videos we've imported to our computer from our digital camera are pretty dark. So most things are in a black silhouette. Can a program fix the "balance' or the "contrast"? If so, which ones?
[10:54] <Seveas> ezenu, the manpage for xargs should be a nice read for you
[10:54] <lamego> or program `cat file`
[10:54] <lamego> :P
[10:54] <lmosher> exit
[10:54] <Illusion_of_Art> Hello. I have a question. It's a stupid one but here it goes: I'm running a Pentium 4 and 640MB of RAM. I've been running the i386 version of Ubuntu. Should I be running that version or another one.
[10:54] <lamego> ah, one for each command
[10:55] <ezenu> Seveas, lamego , thanks. xargs does what I need
[10:55] <lamego> Illusion_of_Art, you can use the 686 kernel
[10:55] <Seveas> Illusion_of_Art, you're running the correct version
[10:55] <ebel> Illusion_of_Art, No. i386 is correct
[10:55] <Illusion_of_Art> Okay
[10:55] <Illusion_of_Art> Thanks
[10:55] <mcphail> Illusion_of_Art: you could upgrade to the 686 kernel
[10:55] <ebel> Illusion_of_Art, The only other versions are: powerpc (for apple machines) and amd64 for 64bit AMD/Intel CPUs.
[10:56] <Seveas> ebel, don't forget sparc
[10:56] <torpor> hello everyone i am enjoying my new Ubuntu tryout very much, but here's a question:  where the !#%@# are the man pages!  'man tcgetattr' == no worky!  how do i get all the 'normal' man pages installed .. something like '-dev' i gotta look for with synaptic/apt-get, or what?   [means all the default unix man pages, including programmer volumes, etc.] 
[10:56] <Seveas> and the unofficial ia64 and hppa ports
[10:56] <Fernand1> ebel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21016
[10:56] <ebel> Seveas, There's a sparc ubuntu? I'm impressed.
[10:56] <Seveas> torpor, you need the manpages-dev package
[10:56] <Seveas> torpor, manpages-posix and manpages-posix-dev are good too
[10:57] <fyrestrtr> Seveas: is there a vim package for file higlighting common file types?
[10:57] <Illusion_of_Art> Okay. It runs fine except the mouse jumps around a bit and causes some havoc. I didn't think I was running the wrong one until starting my A+ class
[10:57] <Seveas> fyrestrtr, just type :syntax on inside vim ;)
[10:57] <torpor> Seveas, thanks very much!  any other 'devtools i normally take for granted' that i ought to sniff out?
[10:57] <Seveas> torpor, build-essential
[10:58] <Chrono86> just got nvidia drivers and xgl installed...gonna reboot...wish me luck
[10:58] <Zambezi> Seveas, Should I activate SSL with some command? I tried to login with FTPS in the GUI, but it didn't work.
[10:58] <torpor> Seveas, got that, thanks!
[10:58] <torpor> E: Couldn't find package manpages-posix
[10:58] <Aagni> hi all
[10:58] <hector> alguien puede ayudarme
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> !info manpages-posix
[10:58] <ubotu> manpages-posix: Manual pages about using POSIX system. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.16-1 (dapper), package size 842 kB, installed size 1196 kB
[10:58] <hector> a instalar ael amsn
[10:58] <lamego> troymit99, sudp apt-get install manpages-dev
[10:58] <Seveas> !es
[10:59] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:59] <fyrestrtr> torpor: enable multiverse
[10:59] <Aagni> i am struggling to enable 3D rendering on my ATI card
[10:59] <lamego> ops, i mean torpor
[10:59] <CoOlGhOsT> hey. can anyone tell me how to get syntax highligthing, searchhighllighting etc. working default in vi(m)?
[10:59] <torpor> oh.
[10:59] <hector> necesito ayuda
[10:59] <torpor> multiverse..
[10:59] <hector> please
[10:59] <shining> Aagni: which branch?
[10:59] <Aagni> CoOlGhOsT, use :set hlsearch
[10:59] <Elios> !swat
[10:59] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:59] <Aagni> shining, branch?
[10:59] <ompaul> Seveas, you reading my mind
[10:59] <torpor> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:59] <torpor> deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:59] <shining> Aagni: dri should work out of the box on dapper and edgy
[10:59] <Aagni> shining, 6.06
[10:59] <torpor> thats ^^ multiverse right?
[10:59] <Seveas> torpor, that's just for backports
[11:00] <Aagni> shining, how do i know its working?
[11:00] <Seveas> torpor, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 is more complete
[11:00] <Thunderpants> how do i install xgl and compiz? apt-get xgl compiz?
[11:00] <shining> Aagni: LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo
[11:00] <Seveas> !xgl > Thunderpants
[11:00] <Thunderpants> thx Seveas
[11:00] <CoOlGhOsT> Aagni: cool... is there an rc file for it somewhere?
[11:00] <sergiol> how can i do  dpkg-reconfigure '^gs*'
[11:01] <chris007> hi
[11:01] <Aagni> CoOlGhOsT: yes ..in Vi, do a :e $VIM/_vimrc
[11:01] <Seveas> CoOlGhOsT, ~/.vimrc
[11:01] <sergiol> all pack's beginning with gs
[11:01] <Aagni> shining: done .. what next?
[11:01] <Aagni> shining: it has a a -- direct rendering: No
[11:01] <ebel> Fernand1, you getting those PMs?
[11:01] <CoOlGhOsT> cool thanks Seveas and Aagni
[11:01] <shining> Aagni: and just before?
[11:01] <Seveas> sergiol, dpkg -l | awk '/ii/{print $2}' | xargs sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[11:01] <Seveas> sergiol, dpkg -l 'gs*' | awk '/ii/{print $2}' | xargs sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[11:02] <Seveas> the first one wil reconfigure them all ;)
[11:02] <shining> Aagni: do you see a OpenDriver line?
[11:02] <Seveas> the second only gs*
[11:02] <Fernand1> ebel: yes. ALready replied. Are you getting mine?
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> I was just about to say....are you sure about that?
[11:02] <torpor> Seveas, okay thanks.. i think its sorted now ..
[11:02] <ebel> Fernand1, No.... weird...
[11:03] <eternalswd> TheEye, are you sure your boot order is correct?
[11:03] <Aagni> no shining, cant seem to find one
[11:03] <Fernand1> ebel: Okay. aNYWAY, I asked if you could give me an example of something I could put in the terminal to see if those commands worked. SInce it's my first day with Linux(ubuntu).
[11:03] <santa99> he guys
[11:03] <shining> Aagni: paste output in private
[11:04] <santa99> where can i get the fonts for ISO-8859-15
[11:04] <eCokeNCod> hey
[11:04] <ebel> Fernand1, aptitude is the command line version of synaptic.
[11:04] <flasher> the videos we've imported to our computer from our digital camera are pretty dark. So most things are in a black silhouette. Can a program fix the "balance' or the "contrast"? If so, which ones?
[11:04] <orhthotheo> Fernand1: cat /dev/urandom
[11:04] <CokeNCode> right, does anyone know of a good program I can use to send thousands of emails (i'm not a spammer, this is for legitimate purposes)
[11:04] <chris007> i have a problem... i am running xp on my machine i installed ubuntu. i made 10gb unpartitioned space and in ubuntu installer i made a 9gb partition for ubuntu and a 1gb partition for swap, i completed the installation and rebooted as instructed. I wasn't asked in the instalation for any bootloader options. so my machine now boots directly in windows and i don't know how to get to my new ubuntu instalation... can someone help me?
[11:04] <Seveas> CokeNCode, sendmail 
[11:04] <orhthotheo> CokeNCode: sendmail with a shellscript ;p
[11:04] <torpor> any other good sources worth having?
[11:04] <trygg> How do i mount a .bin? The bin2iso is unsupported at the official site.
[11:04] <nopcode> CokeNCode: i doubt theres a legitimate purpose for that
[11:05] <eternalswd> flasher, what format is it in?
[11:05] <ebel> Fernand1, So try "sudo aptitude update" and see what happens
[11:05] <fyrestrtr> CokeNCode: mailman
[11:05] <Seveas> nopcode, there is
[11:05] <Zambezi> Which is the best tv-captureapplication? And please don't say MythTV. I failed to start it.
[11:05] <CokeNCode> nopcode yes there is, i work for a company that is sending email to customers. requested email
[11:05] <fyrestrtr> Zambezi: mythtv, its the best!
[11:05] <looktj> does anyone have ubuntu christian edition
[11:05] <CokeNCode> fyestrtr 'mailman' ... thanks
[11:05] <orhthotheo> how can i capture movies of the screen?
[11:05] <CokeNCode> does it read the addresses from an excel file ?
[11:06] <fyrestrtr> orhthotheo: sudo apt-get install istanbul
[11:06] <fyrestrtr> CokeNCode: lol no.
[11:06] <eternalswd> Zambezi, I'm not sure but mencoder might be able to do it.
[11:06] <orhthotheo> fyrestrtr: i dont use sudo :p
[11:06] <Zambezi> fyrestrtr, But I couldn't even configure MySQL.
[11:06] <CokeNCode> fyrestrtr does 'mailman' read addresses from an excel file ... oh darn
[11:06] <CokeNCode> oh k, that's kind of a requirement ... :/
[11:06] <Fernand1> ebel: it works
[11:06] <fyrestrtr> Zambezi: I don't think that's mythv's fault.
[11:06] <CokeNCode> or at the very least ... a text file
[11:06] <fyrestrtr> CokeNCode: nothing will do that, unless it runs on Windows.
[11:06] <CokeNCode> fyrestrtr how about from a textfile
[11:07] <eternalswd> orhthotheo, what format of movies?
[11:07] <torpor> okay.. anyone got any suggestions for other sources/repo's to set up?  any particularly trick ubuntu repositories out there, or is it all pretty much 'use what ubuntu give you'?
[11:07] <CokeNCode> fyrestrtr why not, open office uses the same excel file format
[11:07] <fyrestrtr> CokeNCode: why don't you read up on it? It is one of the most widely used mailing list software in the world. Runs some of the biggest lists.
[11:07] <Zambezi> fyrestrtr, I know, but MythTV needs MySQL. So if MySQL doesn't work, MythTV won't.
[11:07] <CokeNCode> fyrestrtr thanks
[11:07] <CokeNCode> will do
[11:07] <fyrestrtr> Zambezi: fwiw, I have no problems with mythtv or mysql.
[11:07] <TheGateKeeper> torpor: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[11:07] <eternalswd> Zambezi, what problems are you having with mysql?
[11:08] <chris007> is it there a way to make the ubuntu.bin file (needed for my windows loader to dualboot xp and ubuntu) directly form windows xp? i've installed a program witch alows me to read ext3 partitions but i can't use dd for windows to make that file...
[11:08] <torpor> so there are, like, ubuntu 'game' repositories, etc?
[11:08] <TheGateKeeper> !seveas > torpor
[11:08] <Zambezi> eternalswd, Too long ago, but I can check again. I just need to find the Howto.
[11:08] <eternalswd> chris007, why not use grub?
[11:08] <Fernand1> ebel: the command worked. Now what?
[11:08] <ebel> Fernand1, The Universe/Mulitverse repositories can be added manually by editing the /etc/apt/source.list file (using sudo)
[11:08] <orhthotheo> fyrestrtr: this istanbul is very strange, it get no icon in the notification area
[11:09] <orhthotheo> using fvwm
[11:09] <orhthotheo> is it some gnomething?
[11:09] <Flannel> chris007: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:09] <chris007> eternalswd: i can't bnoot in ubuntu.. my machine boots directly into windows
[11:09] <chris007> thanks flannel :)
[11:10] <Fernand1> Well. I tried adding the repositories by going to  "System>Administration>SOftware properties" and then adding something into Ubuntu 6.0.8 TSL(something like that) (Source)
[11:10] <Fernand1> and after that I got the warnings in synoptic package manager
[11:11] <ebel> Fernand1, Can you delete that added repository?
[11:11] <Fernand1> Maybe. NOt sure how to do it. As I said before, it is my first day
[11:12] <ebel> Fernand1, well try clicking on add, then select Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, and click on all the check boxes
[11:12] <Aagni> shining: u around?
[11:12] <shining> Aagni: yes
[11:13] <onikos> is there any kernel source(about 50MB) of ubuntu that match a kernel version of a certain ubuntu installation?
[11:13] <ebel> Fernand1, ("offical supported", "restricted copyright", "universe" and "multiverse")
[11:13] <ebel> Fernand1, then click add, and then reload.
[11:13] <epitaf-laptop> is there a way to calibrate a mouse pad in ubuntu?
[11:13] <Zambezi> fyrestrtr, If I ask very nice, could you please be me support? I need to configure it until 16.00 GMT 0. About 15 hours left.
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> epitaf-laptop: tptools
[11:14] <ebel> Is it possible to disable a laptop trackpad when a mouse is plugged in?
[11:14] <flasher> eternalswd: wmv format
[11:14] <epitaf-laptop> fyrestrtr, sweet, thanks
[11:14] <BoneyOne> on a new 6.06 install after using the sudo command a few times it seems to be broken, error is sudo: unable to lookup boneyone-laptop via gethostbyname() when I try to sudo or gksudo
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> Zambezi: what do you need help with exactly? I am about to go to bed, so if its something quick -- then sure.
[11:14] <eternalswd> flasher, through a browser?
[11:15] <flasher> eternalswd: nope
[11:15] <Dev05> Hi there! I did a dist-upgrade yesterday nigth and it installed an update for lib-vte. Now Synaptic won't start because it can't find that lib. What's going on???
[11:15] <Zambezi> fyrestrtr, It'll take longer. I'll try myself. Probably I won't make it.
[11:15] <eternalswd> flasher, how is it being accessed?
[11:15] <epitaf-laptop> fyrestrtr, know if there's an equivalent i xubuntu?
[11:15] <kit^> has anyone been able to transfer video onto a zen vision M sucessfully and get it in it the video folder and working??
[11:15] <Elios> well since webmin is out
[11:15] <fyrestrtr> it should work in xubuntu
[11:15] <Elios> some one want to help me getting swat working
[11:15] <Kyja> why do .exe applications stopped haveing wine as the default program? it now is terminal !! how can I fix this so I dont have to type wine in the open with other application field?
[11:15] <lordhelmet> Dev05: try reinstalling synaptic from commandline apt-get
[11:16] <epitaf-laptop> fyrestrtr, ok
[11:16] <flasher> eternalswd: we imported the movie from digital movie camera onto the computer. we want to burn the movie files onto DVD. but before burning, we'd like to fix the "light balance"
[11:16] <eternalswd> Kyja, right click on an exe and go to properties
[11:16] <Dev05> lordhelmet, OK, I'll let you know. Thanks!
[11:16] <Blissex> Kyja: look for the 'binmisc' executable type handler.
[11:16] <Fernand1> ebel: thanks
[11:16] <ebel> Fernand1, that worked?
[11:18] <Dev05> lordhelmet, That's weird thought, dist-upgrade shouldn't break your system...
[11:18] <Dev05> though*
[11:18] <Kyja> :/ in what tab is this? the open with tab has "wine windows emulator" as an enty
[11:18] <BoneyOne> I recieve the following error "sudo: unable to lookup boneyone-laptop via gethostbyname()" when I try to sudo or gksudo
[11:18] <Kyja> this must be what you are refering to
[11:18] <lordhelmet> yes tis weird..have you tried logging out, logging back in? maybe an env variable didn't get updated....maybe try rebooting even
[11:19] <Dev05> lordhelmet, Yeah, done all of that. Now it finished re-installing... Let me see.
[11:19] <Kyja> and it stopped working. and firefox and chatzilla have been quiting on there own :/ something funny going on.
[11:19] <Dev05> lordhelmet, synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.
[11:19] <epitaf-laptop> fyrestrtr, are you sure its called "tptools"? i did a search in the package manager without luck
[11:19] <Kyja> but I rebootedd so we will see.
[11:20] <Kyja> but this wine thing has be bugged.
[11:20] <TheGame> any1 know how to disable touchpad
[11:20] <eternalswd> flasher, I'm not sure but avidemux might be able to do it.  If not I'm sure mencoder can do it though you'd have to look up the documentation on it.
[11:20] <Dev05> Same error as before.
[11:20] <jrib> BoneyOne: your /etc/hosts should have a line that looks like this: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost HOSTNAME
[11:20] <Kyja> gnomebaker wont launch
[11:20] <jrib> BoneyOne: where HOSTNAME is whatever is in /etc/hostname
[11:20] <Kyja> this just gets better and better grrrr
[11:20] <ebel> TheGame, I've seen something about disabling the touchpad when typing on Linux.
[11:20] <s|k> 2M + 64kb = how many kb?
[11:20] <TheGame> hmm
[11:21] <TheGame> that would be nice too
[11:21] <ebel> TheGame, Don't have any links. google search.
[11:21] <TheGame> will try
[11:21] <jrib> Dev05: that is because you are using compiz repositories, search ubuntuforums.org for libvte and you'll find the fix
[11:21] <eternalswd> Kyja, yes the open with tab, make sure "wine windows emulator" is selected
[11:22] <jrib> Dev05: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238668
[11:22] <Dev05> jrib, O-o... Wow, that's the last thing I'd think about. Thanks!
[11:23] <sergiol> tks
[11:23] <Kyja> :o I think I know what happened.
[11:23] <sergiol> what's the meaning of rc in begining of dpkg -l lines
[11:24] <Kyja> an darn windows installer launched and wrote temp files and then could not delete.
[11:24] <TheGame> heres the problem
[11:24] <Kyja> it sabotaged my system
[11:24] <Ayano_> how do I find out what version of ubuntu I am running?
[11:24] <TheGame> ive found a lot of howtos to disable the touchpad
[11:24] <TheGame> but whenever i try synclient -l
[11:24] <flasher> eternalswd: do you know of a program that can fix the "light balance" or contrast of a movie file (in wmv) on Windows XP?
[11:24] <fyrestrtr> Ayano_: lsb_release -a
[11:24] <TheGame> i get a memory error even though ive enabled it in xorg
[11:24] <Goshawk> this is a package creation wuestion about the ubuntu policy: is it legal that a package replaces or changes a configuration file of another package?
[11:24] <jrib> sergiol: removed but config files remain.  The first few lines of output should explain the letters
[11:24] <eigenlambda> how do i build a package?
[11:24] <Dev05> jrib, The ln think did it. Thanks!
[11:25] <Ayano_> ty fyrestrtr
[11:25] <sergiol> how can i remove the remaining?
[11:25] <jrib> Goshawk: you may want to try #ubuntu-motu
[11:25] <sergiol> conf files?
[11:25] <Goshawk> jrib: ok thanks
[11:25] <sergiol> dpkg --purge does not work
[11:25] <cfedde> installing postgresql-8.1 on an ubuntu box is breaking for me with this error: Error: Could not parse locale out of pg_controldata output.  Am I just overlooking domething?
[11:25] <sergiol> :(
[11:26] <ebel> eigenlambda, Look at the main-guide package.
[11:26] <ebel> eigenlambda, it has a guide on how to be a package maintainer (ie make your own package)
[11:26] <jrib> sergiol: purge might work if you reinstall the package and then purge
[11:28] <Aagni> shining: thanks mate
[11:28] <Warbo> Anyone know why my teddy is dead?
[11:28] <Aagni> working like a charm
[11:28] <Aagni> Warbo: u hit it too har?
[11:28] <Warbo> Running xteddy in E16 all I get is a white ghost in the shape of the teddy :(
[11:28] <Aagni> Warbo: u hit it too hard?
[11:28] <jrib> Warbo: was he ever alive?
[11:28] <Christopher> Can someone tell me the default password for root?
[11:28] <jrib> !root > Christopher
[11:28] <nopcode> Christopher: jehova
[11:28] <Aagni> Christopher: non
[11:29] <santa99> he guys ext3 is only a extended ext2 or isn't it ?
[11:29] <Christopher> Why does ubuntu do all this sudo crap
[11:29] <Warbo> ext3=ext2+journal
[11:29] <IceOwl> ext3 is the journaling version of ext2
[11:29] <Aagni> santa99: i suppose so .. an advanced version of ext2
[11:29] <IceOwl> yeah, what Warbo said :P
[11:29] <TheGateKeeper> eigenlambda: this what you are after? http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[11:29] <Aagni> does anyone know how to enable Fn keys on laptop
[11:29] <Flannel> Christopher: Because it has benefits over using root, as explained on that webpage
[11:29] <Aagni> or map them
[11:30] <santa99> Aagni, this should be done by default
[11:30] <Aagni> santa99: how do i check if it is?
[11:30] <Christopher> Well, them how do I rmdir if I dont know the password?
[11:30] <epitaf-laptop> Is there a need for a antivirus program in ubuntu? Or is the fact that almost all viruses are written for Windows enough to not install one?
[11:30] <Aagni> epitaf-laptop: i never have
[11:30] <santa99> Aagni, hold on a moment i look for the program name
[11:30] <Dev05> epitaf-laptop, There is. No need to.
[11:30] <sergiol> what means pn ?
[11:30] <Warbo> I really want to use xteddy (don't ask) but I can't even start a different window manager in a different X server, since I have to use Xorg-air and it complains if I try to open a new session
[11:30] <Flannel> Christopher: it's your own user password
[11:30] <lamego> Christopher, you don't thats why you need sudo, to protect against people that can damage the system
[11:30] <Aagni> santa99: sure
[11:31] <santa99> Aagni, hotekey-setup
[11:31] <ebel> epitaf-laptop, AFAIK there are anti-viruses on linux to detect windows viruses.
[11:31] <santa99> Aagni, this is the program which has done on my laptop
[11:31] <lamego> if you dont know the passwrod you shouldn't be deleting root owned files
[11:31] <epitaf-laptop> Aagni, Dev05 hm.. ok
[11:31] <Led_Zeppelin> what is the extra resposity link in Ubuntu
[11:31] <sergiol> in the beginning ogf dpkg -l lines (not on man page)?
[11:31] <nopcode> lamego: that is assuming that the user is a moron
[11:31] <Aagni> santa99: not found
[11:31] <Aagni> do i need to install it
[11:31] <lamego> nopcode, uh ? only morons delete important files ?
[11:31] <santa99> Aagni, realised right now
[11:31] <epitaf-laptop> ebel, ok
[11:31] <BoneyOne> jrib: yes, the hosts file is mission the info, but i can't open it other than read-only since sudo does not work
[11:32] <BoneyOne> mission=missing
[11:32] <Warbo> I delete important files all the time and I'm not.... oh wait
[11:32] <nopcode> lamego: root should be able to use a root shell instead of doing sudo all the time
[11:32] <jrib> BoneyOne: reboot and choose 'recovery mode' from the grub menu
[11:32] <lamego> BoneyOne, boot from a cd using recovery mode
[11:32] <BoneyOne> k, thx
[11:32] <santa99> Aagni, i have no idea what to do else sorry
[11:32] <lamego> Warbo, oh you must be my hero, you never deleted a file by accident :)
[11:32] <acon> Hi, does anyone know where the applications are on Ubuntu? I've only found menus with launchers and a list of processes in System Monitior, but no representation of applications.
[11:32] <TheGateKeeper> nopcode: that's possible too
[11:32] <Warbo> lamego: I uninstalled libc6 about a week ago
[11:32] <shining> Aagni: though, some ppl prefer using fglrx instead of the open source drivers, even with r200. but r200 dri drivers should be reasonably good
[11:33] <Warbo> acon: Try in /usr/bin
[11:33] <ebel> acon, Do you not have an Applications menu?
[11:33] <lamego> acon, applications are distributed across several directories according to the files type
[11:33] <Blissex> acon: '/usr/bin' most of them, also the docs are in '/usr/share/doc/' and the 'man' pages in '/usr/share/man/man1/'
[11:33] <acon> Warbo: does that contain applications. I only thought it contained executable files
[11:33] <Warbo> acon: What do you mean by applications then?
[11:34] <lamego> Warbo, the set of files which builds an application
[11:34] <ebel> acon, On Linux (and unix), applications are normally spread over many directoies.
[11:34] <nopcode> you might want to grab a copy of microsoft windows
[11:34] <acon> Warbo: Like what you find in the Applications directory on a Mac
[11:34] <Warbo> I have never used a Mac
[11:34] <acon> Or on the dock (also on Mac)
[11:34] <ebel> acon,  Linux doesn't really do that.
[11:34] <Warbo> If you want a dock then take a look at gdesklets, adesklets and cairo-dock
[11:34] <acon> Nice Icons that shows you if the application is running and that you can throw in the trash to get rid of the application
[11:34] <ebel> acon, And on OSX, applications are really folders that contain executables (and other stuff). :)
[11:35] <Thunderpants> does any part of gdesklets work?
[11:35] <ebel> acon, use aptitude (or synaptic or apt-get) to delete an application from ubuntu.
[11:35] <acon> ebel: That is an implementation issue
[11:35] <Warbo> acon: That is a different UI implementation. I don't know of a window manager that does that, but E16's icon box is similar
[11:36] <ebel> Warbo, I'm sure GNUStep does it as well. :)
[11:36] <nopcode> i mean who cares about guis anyways
[11:36] <Warbo> I have never tries GNUStep
[11:36] <acon> I guess Gnome is very Document centric, which works for document based applications like open office, but doesn't work as well for applications like Rhythmbox
[11:36] <Thunderpants> must be me: i start gdesklets, choose any of the 5 weather applets on offer, and gdesklets shits itself
[11:36] <ebel> GNUStep is open source NextStep. OSX is based on NextStep.
[11:36] <Warbo> acon: Rhythmbox implements it's own library system anyway (and I hate Rhythmbox. I use Amarok and Listen)
[11:36] <ebel> So I'm /assuming/ it's a similar UI.
[11:37] <Warbo> ebel: Does GNUStep run on Darwin? That would be a cool comparison :)
[11:37] <ebel> Warbo, Hmm, I don't know... Interesting idea though...
[11:37] <acon> Warbo: the problem with rhythmbox is that it quits when I closes its window, since that is the only option since there is no representation for applications in Gnome
[11:37] <mrDaniel> is there maybe the compatibility-list for grafic-cards which are supported by Xgl+compiz?
[11:38] <Warbo> acon: Ermmm, you can minimise it?
[11:38] <ebel> acon, Eh? I've been able to get rhythmbox to stay open in the background. I think....
[11:38] <Warbo> And Listen and Amarok can live in the notification area
[11:38] <Led_Zeppelin> anyone know where I can get more Ubuntu repositories?
[11:38] <mrDaniel> the point is: i have a GeForce Go 7600 and Xgl+compiz is very buggy
[11:38] <mr3vil> hi @ all
[11:38] <Dev05> mrDaniel, Xgl IS buggy.
[11:38] <Warbo> Led_Zeppelin: What for? If you need a certain application then search for a repo for it. It is a bad idea to randomly add loads of repos that contain crap
[11:38] <Thunderpants> mr3vil, hix805
[11:39] <Led_Zeppelin> Warbo: isn't there a website that does this?
[11:39] <Warbo> Led_Zeppelin: apt-get.org does that for Debian, but I use Google if I want a certain app which is not in Ubuntu
[11:39] <Thunderpants> ?
[11:40] <apallo19> i am having problems, and it's making me want to quit linux all together
[11:41] <Dev05> apallo19, What's that?
[11:41] <dicesquirrel> Question... after a recent apt-get upgrade, gnome-mud ceased working, giving me the error "gnome-mud: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" Where would I get this package? Doing sudo apt-get install libvte tells me there's no package by that name.
[11:41] <ebel> acon, when I start rhythmbox I get a little musical note beside the clock (next to the gaim icon) clicking on that gets rid of rhythmbox but keep running and playing.
[11:41] <Dev05> dicesquirrel, sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libvte.so.9 /usr/lib/libvte.so.4
[11:41] <TheGateKeeper> apallo19: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows.php
[11:41] <Warbo> I suppose now would be a good time to fix Xorg. Does anyone know why the two "major" version numbers of an Xorg module might not match? I'll try and get the name of the module
[11:41] <ebel> acon, More than just minimizing it.
[11:41] <Juhaz> dicesquirrel, the package is libvte4
[11:41] <mrDaniel> @Dev05 "Xgl IS buggy", ok now I understand :)
[11:42] <dicesquirrel> Ah!
[11:42] <Dev05> mrDaniel, It's just in a too early stage of development.
[11:42] <dicesquirrel> Juhaz: libvte4 is already the newest version.
[11:42] <acon> ebel: I'm just used to closing windows with the x-button in the corner of the window and not have the application quit on me
[11:42] <TheGateKeeper> apallo19: not only but also: Windows to Ubuntu Transition Guide:http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/917/
[11:43] <Dev05> dicesquirrel, Did you run the command I sent you?
[11:43] <Warbo> libexa.so is giving me problems. It is in xserver-xorg-core, but I have screwed it up with AIGLX
[11:43] <Warbo> acon: There is a button next to the X, it is called minimise
[11:43] <dicesquirrel> Dev05, yes, and I got nothing but a new prompt. Didn't find anything
[11:43] <apallo19> TheGateKeeper: Thank you, but that's not what i want
[11:43] <acon> Warbo: I know, I just have to teach my hand
[11:43] <Warbo> (well, for me it is on the opposite side of the titlebar)
[11:43] <mrDaniel> and what is with the AIXGL (or AIGLX) projekt?
[11:44] <Dev05> dicesquirrel, Your problems should be solved with that.
[11:44] <dan2> evening
[11:44] <Warbo> AIGLX is indirect rendering extensions for the standard Xorg
[11:44] <apallo19> i want to take my shared folder on windows (my mp3's speciffically) and mount that folder as a drive
[11:44] <Thunderpants> !xgl > mrDaniel
[11:44] <Dev05> apallo19, You'll need Samba.
[11:44] <dicesquirrel> Genius! Thank you, Dev05! You're my hero.
[11:44] <Warbo> XGL is a different X server, based on Xorg
[11:44] <apallo19> i am using samba
[11:44] <dicesquirrel> And this is why I continue to use Ubuntu. Superb support.
[11:44] <shining> xgl doesn't seem to be the way to go
[11:45] <shining> aiglx is in edgy
[11:45] <Dev05> dicesquirrel, Na, another guy in this IRC actually told me that :)
[11:45] <dan2> how do I adjust my display settings from 1024x768 to 1280x1024 so it fits my monitor's resolution properly?
[11:45] <dicesquirrel> Regardless, the community here is second-to-none.
[11:45] <apallo19> all of the guides tell me to make a folder in /media/, which i do, using sudo mkdir /media/mp3s
[11:45] <TheGateKeeper> apallo19: easiest way is to use konqueror
[11:45] <Warbo> There REALLY needs to be a proper help.ubuntu.com page for AIGLX, since the current one just links to a forum page which has screwed up my regular Xorg
[11:45] <boredandstupid> in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:45] <shining> dan2: maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or something
[11:46] <dan2> ok
[11:46] <wefwef> inux-ifed
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[11:46] <apallo19> i dont want to make a remote folder, i want to map it as a mounted drive
[11:46] <jrib> wefwef: hmm?
[11:46] <Dev05> apallo19, is not a network drive?
[11:47] <apallo19> it's a folder shared on my windoze box
[11:47] <shining> dan2: or maybe not. I don't know what's the recommended way, but you can do it by directly editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:47] <apallo19>  //windowsbox/mp3
[11:47] <lamego> apallo19, your guides are correct
[11:47] <TheGateKeeper> apallo19: what you do is share a windows directory, then use konqueror to navigate to it, it has a samba client built in, you only need samba if you permanently want to mount a windows share
[11:47] <TheGateKeeper> !samba > apallo19
[11:47] <apallo19> you hit it on the head gatekeeper
[11:48] <Warbo> Cool, I have another X. Just seems that switching user with AIGLX needs sorting out
[11:48] <ebel> apallo19, Nautilus (the GNOME file manager) has a sambsa client as well.
[11:48] <apallo19> i want a permanantly mounted drive
[11:48] <Dev05> !samba
[11:48] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:48] <ebel> I think there might be a sambsa filesystem. You could have it automount then....
[11:48] <lamego> apallo19, what is wrong with the guide you were writing about ?
[11:49] <ebel> Gah! The hell with OSX. I'm going to install Ubuntu and see if I can get OSX on there some other time. (Like when I can find the OSX install disks)
[11:50] <apallo19> it looks like it's working, but doesn't
[11:50] <angenis_> shut u
[11:50] <angenis_> p
[11:50] <ebel> apallo19, Can you elaborote? What makes it look like it's working? What makes it look like it's not?
[11:51] <Warbo> I anyone here using AIGLX, or Xorg-air?
[11:51] <Warbo> *Is
[11:51] <KenSentMe> DOes anyone here use the rss aggregator PenguinTV? I've added a few feeds, but they are nowhere to be seen, and i don't get any error.
[11:52] <tony43242> .google penguintv
[11:52] <Fernand1> I have a problem :(
[11:52] <ebel> Fernand1, Oh? :)
[11:52] <Fernand1> My synaptic package manager is not starting when I click on it
[11:52] <tony43242> O_o Are you looking for an ubuntu package?
[11:52] <Warbo> Democracy Player does a similar function, and I get it to save videos to ~/Files/Videos/Random
[11:52] <tony43242> Kensentme: Are you looking for a ubuntu package for it?
[11:52] <KenSentMe> tony43242: no, it's already in the repo's, i have a problem with it
[11:53] <apallo19> this is the 1st error i get:
[11:53] <apallo19> #ubuntu
[11:53] <Zambezi> Isn't it unsecure to install Apache2 and MySQL which is package MythTV need?
[11:53] <apallo19> oops
[11:53] <Fernand1> When I try opening Synaptic Package Manager. NOthing happens. It's supposed to open but instead it shows up for a fraction of a second and dissappears.
[11:53] <apallo19> " mount: only root can mount //server/share on /media/mp3s
[11:53] <Fernand1> can anybody help me with this?
[11:53] <Warbo> apallo19: sudo
[11:53] <Dev05> Fernandl, You just did a dist-update, right?
[11:54] <apallo19> i am using sudo
[11:54] <Warbo> oh
[11:54] <Warbo> Maybe "sudo -s -H" then do it without the sudo?
[11:54] <apallo19> then i do a sudo mount -a
[11:54] <Warbo> (then ctrl-D to become normal user again)
[11:54] <Dev05> Fernand1, dist-upgrade, well.
[11:54] <ebel> Huh, looks like there is no real difference between dapper live cd and install cd....
[11:55] <apallo19> then it tells me the folder /media/mp3s, which i just created, doesn't exist
[11:55] <Warbo> ebel: They are one: "desktop CD". The only others are non-GUI (server, alternate, etc.)
[11:55] <Warbo> It saves money for ShipIt :)
[11:55] <ebel> Warbo, yeah, just noticing that.... Certainly makes the installer much more user friendly. :)
[11:56] <Fernand1> Dev05: Yes. I just did a dist-upgrade
[11:56] <Dev05> Fernand1, Run: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libvte.so.9 /usr/lib/libvte.so.4
[11:56] <Warbo> ebel: I was using my PC normally whilst the installer was going in the background :)
[11:56] <TheGateKeeper> ebel: which one more user friendly??
[11:56] <Dev05> Fernand1, Everything should be fine after.
[11:57] <andouar> hi
[11:57] <Warbo> hi
[11:57] <m4rk> hello trendsetters
[11:57] <ebel> TheGateKeeper, well now you have a full OS while installing, as opposed to a 1992 crappy terminal thingie
[11:57] <Fernand1> Dev05
[11:57] <m4rk> my "hemp" slippers are starting to smell
[11:57] <Fernand1> DevO5: Can you repeat that but in ALL CAPS so I can see what letter is which? I'll translate it to lower-caps as I write it
[11:57] <m4rk> ebel: I like the crappy terminal in '92
[11:57] <Mez> m4rk: lol - if i dont wash my feet often enough they start smelling of hemp
[11:57] <m4rk> ebel: liked*
[11:58] <Warbo> I was web browsing, listening to stuff, chatting, etc. while installing
[11:58] <Warbo> Beats Ark Linux's tetris-while-installing
[11:58] <Warbo> (or Arch? I forget which)
[11:58] <Dev05> Fernand1, SUDO LN -S /USR/LIB/LIBVTE.SO.9 /USR/LIB/LIBVTE.SO.4
[11:58] <m4rk> Mez: that must smell nice
[11:58] <Mez> m4rk: lol - not really
[11:59] <Warbo> Dev05: Terminals are case-sensitive you know......
[11:59] <TheGateKeeper> ebel: well the full OS only works if you have enough RAM etc, on my PC I have to use the 'crappy terminal thingie' and most of the time I actually prefer the 'crappy terminal thingie' :-)
[11:59] <m4rk> I haven't had linux since slackware and that was in about 1992-1995
[11:59] <Warbo> I was using 5GB swap, so I was OK
[11:59] <Fernand1> k
[11:59] <Fernand1> it didn't give me any output
[11:59] <KenSentMe> Where can i put a request to add a newer version of a certain package to edgy then there is now?
[11:59] <m4rk> ahh those were the days. none of this newfangled internet
[11:59] <TheGateKeeper> ebel: my P3 test box to be precise
[11:59] <Dev05> Warbo, I know, the guy couldn't see, that's all.
[11:59] <Fernand1> warbo: I told Dev05 to give it to me in all caps so I could see what letters were which
[12:00] <drbashir> Ok, im lost, how do I get my iPaq to work? ried installing multisync and synce, but now I'm stuck not finding "synce-serial-config" anywhere on my filesystem
[12:00] <lamego> Fernand1, you are creating a link, there is no output expected, unless you get an error
[12:00] <Warbo> Internet was arounf in '92. World Wide Web wasn't though
[12:00] <Fernand1> lmaego: THank you
[12:00] <Mez> KenSentMe, what package ?
[12:00] <m4rk> yes Warbo
[12:00] <KenSentMe> Mez: PenguinTV
[12:00] <`m0> hi, have anyone installed gnome network manager?
[12:00] <m4rk> fsp and xview were the go
[12:00] <Fernand1> Dev05: Thanks. It works now :)
[12:00] <Fernand1> bye
[12:00] <Fernand1> really appretiate the help
[12:00] <drbashir> *sigh* laptop battery almost dead already :((