[01:09] <Riddell> KDE 4 released http://dot.kde.org/1155935483/
[01:10] <imbrandon> !!!!!!!!!!!!!???!?!??!!!
[01:11] <imbrandon> ohhhhhhh /me go's to compile for edgy
[01:11] <imbrandon> heya Riddell
[01:12] <imbrandon> Riddell: are you gonna make packages for kubuntu.org for edgy ? or are we gonna try to get it in edgy universe ? or neither and i can put them on imbrandon.com ;)
[01:13] <yuriy> Riddell: cool. how is this different from checking out svn trunk?
[01:14] <Riddell> yuriy: it's known to compile
[01:15] <yuriy> i guess that's a good thing :)
[01:15] <Riddell> imbrandon: I'll give it a shot, not sure the best way to do it, might just have them installed to /opt or something
[01:15] <imbrandon> yea or maybe hrm , yea 
[01:15] <imbrandon> compiling you can do it in ~/.kde4 but a package 
[01:15] <imbrandon> hehe
[01:19] <imbrandon> Riddell: btw cmake got synced the other day so it should not need to be compiled
[01:20] <imbrandon> ( to the version kde4 requires )
[01:24] <yuriy> can qt4 and cmake be installed from repos?
[01:24] <imbrandon> cmake can, qt4 not sure
[01:24] <imbrandon> yuriy assuming you mean edgy
[01:24] <yuriy> imbrandon: yup, edgy
[01:24] <imbrandon> yea cmake can for sure i know i synced that yesterday
[01:25] <imbrandon> qt4 not sure ask Riddell heh
[01:25] <Riddell> yuriy: qt4-x11-kdecopy
[01:25] <Riddell> but it's missing the dbus tools
[01:27] <Riddell> cool, kde4libs compiling away
[01:27] <Riddell> output almost as nice as unsermake
[01:27] <Riddell> at 2%
[01:27] <imbrandon> nice
[01:27] <imbrandon> hehe gnight Riddell
[01:35] <yuriy> night Riddell
[01:35] <yuriy> someone else maybe: i don't see a qt4-x11-kdecopy package
[01:36] <imbrandon> its there ( sources ) 
[01:36] <imbrandon> brandon@voyager:~$ apt-cache madison qt4-x11-kdecopy
[01:36] <imbrandon> qt4-x11-kdecopy | 4.2.0~svn20060706-0ubuntu2 | http://192.168.1.5 edgy/universe Sources
[01:36] <imbrandon> qt4-x11-kdecopy | 4.2.0~svn20060706-0ubuntu2 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Sources
[01:36] <imbrandon> brandon@voyager:~$
[01:37] <yuriy> imbrandon: ah right source
[01:57] <yuriy> imbrandon: since qt installs itself in its source tree, should make install not be run with sudo?
[01:57] <imbrandon> yuriy tbh i dont know 
[01:57] <imbrandon> i havent messed with trying to complie 4 yet
[02:12] <bddebian> Hello
[02:12] <Hawkwind> imbrandon: I told a friend of mine last night about Dh and the stuff you mentioned who is with 1and1.  Come to find out his account expired in 4 days so he made the switch last night to DH and loves it
[02:12] <Hawkwind> Hey there bddebian
[02:12] <bddebian> Hi Hawkwind
[02:13] <Hawkwind> imbrandon: He also got someone in #Dreamhost to give him a $96 coupon code so he got the level 1 package, for a year, for $23
[02:25] <raphink> yeah :D :D
[03:40] <Hobbsee> morning all
[03:59] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Good morning
[04:03] <Hobbsee> hey Hawkwind :)
[04:03] <Hawkwind> How's life in Aussie land
[04:04] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: kinda cold.  and i have to go to work again soon :(
[04:05] <Hawkwind> I wish I could say it was kind of cold.  It's 99F here with 89% humidity.  To top it off, it's 9pm at night :(
[04:05] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:05] <Hobbsee> 99F hey?  wonder what that is in C.
[04:06] <Hawkwind> <-(  flootbnj  )->   99 Fahrenheit is 37.2222 Celsius.
[04:06] <Hawkwind> Heh
[04:06] <Hobbsee> nice and warm!
[04:06] <Hobbsee> a bit hot though :P
[04:06] <Hawkwind> Just a bit
[04:12] <Hobbsee> work time
[07:43] <lnxkde> I am creating a Kubuntu Live CD with my peronal apps and all my nice things
[07:43] <lnxkde> so I ask, I can do a apt-get clean I will not need the .debs for installing with ubiquity later on right?
[07:44] <lnxkde> ubiquity just copy the files it does not use the debs
[07:44] <lnxkde> right?
[08:13] <freeflying> lnxkde: ubiquty just for install
[08:18] <lnxkde> I made a 747mb iso :(
[08:18] <lnxkde> I need a 750mb cd-r
[08:18] <lnxkde> ^#%#^ I wonder were I can get one near by
[08:19] <freeflying> lnxkde: use k3b with super burn
[08:19] <lnxkde> :)
[08:19] <lnxkde> you know
[08:19] <lnxkde> I make a nice livecd
[08:20] <imbrandon> s/super burn/over burn/g
[08:20] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:20] <lnxkde> with skype/allmost all media codecs enabled, java-sun, k9copy, amarok-xine and kaffeine-xine, libdvdcss
[08:20] <imbrandon> lnxkde: so howed it turn out? what guidde did you follow? i ended up making some live dvd's but could never get the install right
[08:20] <lnxkde> it is avery nice media live Kubuntu disk :D
[08:21] <lnxkde> I havent tried to install yet
[08:21] <imbrandon> nice yea thats what i did 
[08:21] <lnxkde> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6.06
[08:21] <imbrandon> onyl dvd cuz i installed alot more than the cd would hold, also removed openoffice and put koffice etc
[08:21] <lnxkde> I followed that
[08:21] <lnxkde> I also did that
[08:22] <lnxkde> I removed openoffice
[08:22] <lnxkde> but I just installed kpresentr kword, kspread and kchart
[08:22] <freeflying> imbrandon: guy from ubuntu-tw has a perl scripts for generate livecd, do you need it?  :)
[08:23] <imbrandon> freeflying: sure
[08:23] <imbrandon> i would love it
[08:23] <lnxkde> I want it too 
[08:23] <lnxkde> %#$^ no cd-rs here...
[08:24] <lnxkde> I will have to burn it to a DVD
[08:24] <imbrandon> [01:23]  [DCC]  DCC download of file "/home/brandon/dccrecv/build-livecd-current.tar.gz" failed. reason: Connection failure: timed operation timed out
[08:24] <imbrandon> dcc hates me
[08:25] <lnxkde> my fifo buffer is acting strange as hell...
[08:26] <lnxkde> and writing at a slow 3.90x speed
[08:26] <lnxkde> :(
[08:26] <freeflying> imbrandon: lnxkde , just a moment, i'll put it on website
[08:26] <imbrandon> cool thanks
[08:26] <lnxkde> thankx freeflying 
[08:28] <freeflying> imbrandon: lnxkde  http://www.ubuntu-zh.org/~freeflying/pud/
[08:29] <lnxkde> I dont know if I must do a install....
[08:29] <imbrandon> cool grabing now, is there a useage file or readme ?
[08:29] <imbrandon> lnxkde: use qemu
[08:29] <imbrandon> to test
[08:29] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:29] <imbrandon> s/qemu/vmware
[08:29] <lnxkde> in qemu it loaded p nice
[08:29] <lnxkde> but is too slow to test mp3s and things
[08:29] <freeflying> imbrandon: ya
[08:30] <imbrandon> freeflying: cool
[08:30] <lnxkde> brb
[08:31] <freeflying> imbrandon: sorry, they haven't ship with a Readme, but it seems very easy to use it
[08:31] <imbrandon> cool , does it need an iso to start with or....
[08:31] <freeflying> imbrandon: no
[08:32] <freeflying> imbrandon: it just from scratch :)
[08:32] <freeflying> with debootstrap
[08:32] <imbrandon> nice
[08:32] <imbrandon> so i just run it in a dir i want and install the stuff i want 
[08:32] <imbrandon> etc etc etc
[08:32] <imbrandon> so i could build a sid cd or edgy 
[08:33] <imbrandon> nice
[08:33] <imbrandon> even an alternate and stuff too ? nice
[08:34] <freeflying> imbrandon: you just need write down what you wanna install in install.txt,and then pud will do all things for you 
[08:35] <freeflying> imbrandon: and you can use grub to boot your livecd  :)
[08:35] <imbrandon> sweet, does it make it installable to the hdd too ?
[08:35] <imbrandon> with ubiguity ?
[08:36] <freeflying> imbrandon: with ubiquty, sure can you  :)
[08:36] <ubuntu> :)
[08:36] <imbrandon> nice
[08:36] <lnxkde> KDE 3.5.4/Amarok 1.4.1 /and all the nice things working nice as in my installation :D
[08:37] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:42] <lnxkde> I am feeling this will to install it on my system.... but the thing is that my system is so perfectly installed :p
[08:42] <imbrandon> heh thats why i said test it in vmware to install ;)
[08:42] <imbrandon> so you dont mess it up
[08:42] <lnxkde> yep
[08:45] <lnxkde> It will be nice if this works
[08:45] <lnxkde> to publish it :D
[08:45] <lnxkde> as lnxkde supermedia Non-OSs Kubuntu 6.06.1m
[08:46] <imbrandon> heh
[08:47] <crimsun> ...as what?
[08:47] <lnxkde> imbrandon:  freeflying what do you think to have this on a server and let people use it? then I will get a nice sue from the libcss guys and from java, and some other things lol
[08:48] <lnxkde> na, I use vlos and they include all media codecs in a default install
[08:48] <imbrandon> yup probably , it cant be on a US server
[08:48] <lnxkde> vidalinux.com and they never had problems
[08:48] <lnxkde> and vlos are from here in PR,USA
[08:49] <freeflying> lnxkde: vlos -> gentoo?
[08:49] <imbrandon> dident say you couldent so it , but it will be illeagl
[08:49] <lnxkde> yep
[08:49] <crimsun> apparently you can't in some parts of EU, too.
[08:49] <imbrandon> exactly, thats why when i make mine its just for family ;)
[08:49] <lnxkde> freeflying:  vidalinux.com :) 
[08:50] <freeflying> lnxkde: I've tried it 3 years before :)
[08:50] <imbrandon> quote "By purchasing VLOS ...." they prob pay lic fee's
[08:50] <imbrandon> to stay legit
[08:51] <lnxkde> they can pay for the w32codecs....?
[08:51] <freeflying> imbrandon: no, they won't pay any lic
[08:52] <lnxkde> I hope they never have a problem they are from my country and I try supporting them
[08:52] <lnxkde> but the truth is that they are violationg even the GPL2
[08:52] <imbrandon> no ppc ;(
[08:53] <lnxkde> they provide binary nvidia and ati drivers out of the installation, w32codecs, mp3, libdvdcss
[08:54] <imbrandon> that dosent look legit then to me not if its in the US 
[08:54] <lnxkde> yep right from Puerto Rico
[08:54] <imbrandon> pr is covered by US law afaik
[08:55] <lnxkde> Puerto Rico is ruled by federal laws like any state
[08:55] <lnxkde> PR is almost a state 
[08:55] <imbrandon> right , including copyright ones ;)
[08:55] <lnxkde> i know ;)
[08:55] <lnxkde> but they just dont care I think
[08:56] <imbrandon> exactly , this means they CAN be sued, dosent mean they /will/ be 
[08:56] <lnxkde> I know
[08:56] <lnxkde> but I only help making amd64 packages of KDE stuff...
[08:56] <imbrandon> yea pr guam and virgin islands are all "teritories" , almost states
[08:57] <lnxkde> I kind of hate gentoo... but I love it in another way too
[08:57] <imbrandon> lol
[08:57] <lnxkde> :p  but well I use kubuntu as default desktop
[08:57] <imbrandon> gentoo == GENeraly TOO much trubble IMHO
[08:57] <lnxkde> I use vlos just to test it and help with it
[08:58] <lnxkde> and of cource to spend hours compiling KDE ;P
[08:58] <imbrandon> heh
[08:58] <imbrandon> i feel ya this kde4 snapshot is takin FOREVER and something tells me it wont finish the first try
[08:58] <imbrandon> anyhow brb
[08:58] <lnxkde> ok
[09:00] <lnxkde> imbrandon:  freeflying laterz
[09:00] <lnxkde> I must go and get some sleep
[09:00] <lnxkde> is 3:15 hr
[09:00] <lnxkde> here
[09:00] <lnxkde> 3:15am is time to sleep :p
[09:00] <lnxkde> God bless you 2
[09:00] <lnxkde> bye bye
[09:01] <freeflying> bye
[11:20] <Tonio_> hey
[11:20] <Hobbsee> hi Tonio_ 
[11:20] <imbrandon> heya Tonio_
[11:23] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: I need help concerning a patch and I don't want to disturb aaron seigo with this (he his kicker maintainer)
[11:23] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: maybe you can help
[11:23] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: possibly.  i dobut i know much though :P
[11:24] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: let me explain you
[11:25] <Tonio_> the goal is to patch kicker to get "normal" size to 48 instead of 46
[11:25] <Tonio_> here is my patch (failing one)
[11:25] <Hobbsee> right, yep
[11:26] <Tonio_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21064
[11:26] <Tonio_> I'm probably miss something but what ???
[11:26] <Tonio_> I must say I don't know
[11:28] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: no idea - tried seeing where 46 occurs in other places?
[11:28] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: sure ;)
[11:28] <Tonio_> for 2 days at least
[11:29] <Hobbsee> was it enlightening?
[11:29] <Hobbsee> ah
[11:29] <Tonio_> but I don't find anything
[11:29] <Hobbsee> ah
[11:36] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: any idea
[11:36] <Tonio_> ?
[11:36] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: none, sorry
[11:37] <Tonio_> Hobbsee:  no pb
[12:04] <fdoving> Tonio_: did you try to edit /usr/share/apps/kconf_update/kicker-3.1-properSizeSetting.pl on a running system? did that work? 
[12:05] <Tonio_> fdoving: my patch patches this file too
[12:06] <Tonio_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21064
[12:06] <Tonio_> here is the point
[12:06] <Tonio_> there is certainly a third thing to patch bt where and what ?
[12:06] <Tonio_> that's the great question
[12:31] <Tonio_> hum, kio-beagle ftbfs on edgy...
[12:32] <Tonio_> I will investogate this today
[01:14] <danimo> moin!
[01:14] <danimo> imbrandon: you get excited easily, don't you? :)
[01:15] <imbrandon> heh why do you say that ?
[01:15] <danimo> imbrandon: dot article :)
[01:16] <imbrandon> ahh ;)
[01:16] <imbrandon> planet.u.c too ;)
[01:16] <imbrandon> heh
[01:17] <danimo> Hobbsee: you've got a blog? get it aggregated already :)
[01:18] <Hobbsee> danimo: i have a blog, i dont have anything in it
[01:18] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: its simple, give me your gotchi.png and a feed url and i can add you in 5 seconds ( or you can do it following the wiki )
[01:18] <danimo> Hobbsee: I haven't blogged in ages
[01:18] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: true that.  my gotchi.png?
[01:18] <Hobbsee> but i'm getting less shy, so maybe i can cope with them :P
[01:18] <imbrandon> big face like all the others ;)
[01:18] <danimo> Hobbsee: absolutely
[01:19] <Hobbsee> hum.  but i try to keep photos of myself hidden :P
[01:19] <imbrandon> http://planet.ubuntu.com/heads/imbrandon.png  <-- like that
[01:19] <danimo> Hobbsee: is that why you posted two on this channel? :)
[01:19] <\sh> Hobbsee: planet.kubuntu.de is waiting for you too :)
[01:19] <imbrandon> ahh its just a head shot, look at jdubs wife ;)
[01:19] <Hobbsee> danimo: true that.
[01:19] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: what's the photo of pia like?
[01:20] <imbrandon> hold on i'll show ya
[01:20] <Hobbsee> \sh: heh
[01:20] <Hobbsee> danimo: most people dont check these logs
[01:20] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: pia <-- http://waugh.id.au/img/greebo.png
[01:20] <imbrandon> err http://waugh.id.au/img/greebo.png <-- pia ;)
[01:20] <Hobbsee> purty :)
[01:21] <Hobbsee> she doesnt look like that any more though
[01:21] <imbrandon> i can take one of your choosing and photoshop it if you want, i realy think its a good idea ;)
[01:21] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: i dunno i got it from http://waugh.id.au/ ;)
[01:21] <Hobbsee> hum.
[01:21] <Hobbsee> most of the photos of me look terrible.
[01:22] <imbrandon> use the car one with shades in the sun , like mako ;)
[01:22] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: true that.  that must have been from her wedding
[01:22] <Hobbsee> she has short hair now :P
[01:22] <imbrandon> heh
[01:23] <imbrandon> heh i'm not on planet.kubuntu.de
[01:23] <imbrandon> might add that one someday
[01:23] <danimo> \sh: go add poor imbrandon :)
[01:23] <imbrandon> lol
[01:24] <imbrandon> if you do just link to my "linux" rss so you dont get all my other junk ;)
[01:24] <\sh> imbrandon: send me your gotchi and your feed to sh
[01:24] <\sh> @sourcecode.de ;)
[01:24] <imbrandon> k one sec
[01:24] <\sh> imbrandon: i'm glad to read your other junk as well...I'm p*ssing off some US guys sometimes .... read the comments on my blog ;)
[01:26] <imbrandon> lol
[01:26] <Hobbsee> http://users.unsw.compsoc.net/~saraf/linuxchix_meeting/
[01:26] <imbrandon> what about us guys trying to move to the UK ? heh
[01:26] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: the new pia ^
[01:29] <imbrandon> \sh: sent , and thanks btw ;)
[01:29] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: cool
[01:29] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: and pics of me, of course.  they dont look *that* bad either
[01:29] <Hobbsee> might be hackergotchi material
[01:30] <imbrandon> ;)
[01:31] <imbrandon> want me to photoshop one up real fast and see what you think ?
[01:32] <Hobbsee> if you want, talk to danimo who is also looking
[01:32] <Hobbsee> see if you can get rid of my rotten red eyes, and then i can add it to LP
[01:32] <imbrandon> heh ok , doing it now
[01:34] <imbrandon> yea i changed all my mr patatoe head ones last night
[01:37] <\sh> imbrandon: done :) planet.kubuntu.de and universe.kubuntu.de ;)
[01:38] <imbrandon> nice thanks
[01:45] <insanekane> ballcap ?
[01:45] <danimo> insanekane: see planet.kubuntu.de
[01:46] <imbrandon> or planet.u.c 
[01:46] <imbrandon> or my blog ;)
[02:06] <fdoving> should artsd for root be disabled by k-d-s? adept triggers artsd, if not disabled.
[02:07] <Hobbsee> @time sydney
[02:07] <Ubugtu> Current time in Australia/Sydney: August 19 2006, 22:07:48
[02:07] <Hobbsee> hum.  it is saturday.
[02:10] <danimo> @time berlin
[02:10] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Berlin: August 19 2006, 14:10:11
[03:12] <toma> @time culemborg
[03:29] <Tonio_> hey toma
[03:29] <Tonio_> argh missed....
[03:29] <imbrandon> moins jpatrick
[03:32] <Tonio_> hey jpatrick
[03:32] <Tonio_> yo imbrandon
[03:32] <imbrandon> sup Tonio_ ;)
[03:33] <jpatrick> moins imbrandon and Tonio_
[03:39] <Tonio_> jpatrick: anything you have to work on currently ?
[03:39] <Tonio_> I'm looking for help regarding a kdebase patch that drives me nuts
[03:39] <jpatrick> Tonio_: No
[03:39] <Tonio_> jpatrick: interested helping me on that point ?
[03:40] <Tonio_> I'm turning arround and will not find by myself
[03:40] <jpatrick> which kde version?
[03:40] <Tonio_> 3.5.4 or 3.5.3
[03:40] <Tonio_> same issue on both
[03:40] <Tonio_> here is the point
[03:40] <jpatrick> I have 3.5.2
[03:40] <Tonio_> jpatrick: should be the same issue
[03:41] <Tonio_> I want to patch kicker for "normal" size to be 48 pix instead of 46
[03:41] <Tonio_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21064
[03:41] <Tonio_> here is my patch but it looks somehow incomplete
[03:41] <Tonio_> I don't see where is the missing thing...
[03:41] <Tonio_> I'd be glad if you can help
[03:42] <seaLne> has anyone used keep on dapper?
[03:42] <jpatrick> Tonio_: can't the config be patched?
[03:42] <Tonio_> jpatrick: yes I can do that using personalised value and set it to 48
[03:43] <Tonio_> but I would like to patch the standard "normal" value instead
[03:43] <Tonio_> by far cleaner way to proceeds
[03:56] <Tonio_> jpatrick: interested eventually ?
[03:57] <jpatrick> Tonio_: I don't know
[03:57] <Tonio_> jpatrick: you see :)
[03:57] <Tonio_> I can ask for help to tomas too
[03:57] <Tonio_> I will not find now...
[03:58] <jpatrick> mail him
[03:59] <Tonio_> jpatrick: will do
[03:59] <Tonio_> jpatrick: I can also email aaron seigo, he maintains it
[04:00] <jpatrick> yeah
[04:09] <Tonio_> kubuntu package installer service menu fails too (unable to give package infos)
[04:09] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'm fixing this
[04:12] <Mez> Riddell: ping
[04:13] <Tonio_> kio-beagle is fixed
[04:14] <Tonio_> hey Mez
[04:15] <Mez> hey Tonio_
[04:20] <bddebian> Hello
[04:53] <Tonio_> someone here using 3.5.4 ?
[04:53] <Tonio_> I would like to confirm a bug before reporting
[05:01] <Tonio_> Riddell: ping ?
[05:06] <toma> Tonio_: i can test, but give me a second, i need to fix a spam-server first
[05:07] <toma> hmm, anti-spam server ;-)
[05:08] <Tonio_> toma: thanks a lot
[05:08] <Tonio_> toma: I also need your help concerning a little patch for kdebase when you have time
[05:09] <Tonio_> currently I'm trying to fix k3bsetup that fails to apply permissions correctly
[05:10] <toma> Tonio_: allright
[05:10] <toma> Tonio_: what do you want confirmed?
[05:11] <Tonio_> toma: when I insert a cd I don't see it on the desktop
[05:11] <toma> owww
[05:11] <Tonio_> kde apparently fails to mount it correctly
[05:11] <toma> i dont have a cd-player
[05:11] <Tonio_> no issues with usb keys or other kind of memory
[05:11] <Tonio_> argh
[05:11] <Tonio_> ;)
[05:11] <Tonio_> okay so maybe you can look at the second issue :)
[05:12] <toma> shoot
[05:12] <Tonio_> we want to fix kicker for "normal" size to use 48 pix instead of 46
[05:12] <Tonio_> here is my patch (doesn't work)
[05:12] <Tonio_> I should miss something but what ??? ;)
[05:12] <Tonio_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21064
[05:12] <Tonio_> there it is
[05:12] <toma> i looked at that earlier i believe
[05:13] <toma> i did not found the answer back then
[05:13] <Tonio_> hum yes
[05:14] <toma> what i can do, is ask aaron seigo to look at it / talk to you. 
[05:14] <Tonio_> I will probably ask aaron seigo directly
[05:14] <Tonio_> I know aaron pretty well now so he might not ignore me
[05:14] <Tonio_> ^^
[05:14] <toma> allright
[05:14] <toma> if you need help bug me
[05:14] <Tonio_> sure
[05:15] <Tonio_> well k3b causes issues to everyone actually
[05:15] <Tonio_> k3bsetup fails to chmod external programs for a reason I don'"t understand
[05:15] <Tonio_> manual chmod works perfectly
[05:15] <toma> that's with a cd-player right ;-)
[05:15] <toma> ?
[05:15] <Tonio_> nope
[05:15] <Tonio_> that pure code and doesn't require any cdplayer
[05:16] <toma> cool
[05:16] <Tonio_> if you launch k3bsetup you will see permissions on cdrdao, growisofs cannot be applied
[05:16] <Tonio_> that works manually, so we should be able to patch quite easilly
[05:16] <Tonio_> the point is there is no output on it that gives any info...
[05:19] <toma> i just hit 'apply' and it says it is not possible
[05:19] <toma> that is the problem?
[05:20] <Tonio_> yes
[05:20] <Tonio_> chmod 4711 /usr/bin/cdrdao fails
[05:20] <Tonio_> for example
[05:21] <Tonio_> but manual chmod works
[05:21] <Tonio_> so there is a trick in the code th change this probably...
[05:21] <toma> give me a minute to read the source
[05:21] <Tonio_> if you set the permissions manually, there is no issue
[05:21] <Tonio_> in my opinion, those permissions should be set by kds directly
[05:22] <Tonio_> there is no reason evey user has to set them manually on each installation
[05:22] <Tonio_> they should be set out of the box
[05:22] <toma> right
[05:22] <Tonio_> I can do that but it would be nice to fix k3b in the first place
[05:22] <toma> then it should be done by the package which installs those files
[05:22] <Tonio_> and suggest the second option to riddell
[05:23] <Tonio_> having to set permissions goes against simplicity
[05:23] <toma> definitly
[05:23] <Tonio_> toma: no, because I'm not sure gnome programs need the same permissions
[05:23] <Tonio_> that's the reason a postinst script in kds is probably better
[05:24] <toma> ok
[05:25] <Tonio_> I'm adding a note for the next meeting
[05:25] <Tonio_> concerning the preconfiguration
[05:25] <toma> ok
[05:25] <Tonio_> and now let's fix k3b ;)
[05:25] <toma> need to rebuild k3b with debug enabled
[05:25] <Tonio_> I'm looking if the bug exists in debian
[05:26] <Tonio_> yes probably
[05:26] <Tonio_> I'm doing it locally
[05:31] <Tonio_> toma: building with debug enabled
[05:31] <toma> me too
[05:31] <toma> there hould be output for the process where permissions are changed
[05:32] <toma> curious what it will tell us
[05:37] <toma> is burning a cd so complicated?
[05:37] <toma> takes ages
[05:38] <toma> ha
[05:39] <toma> it works now ;-)
[05:39] <Tonio_> you mean ?
[05:39] <toma> no error
[05:39] <Tonio_> what did you change ?
[05:39] <toma> nothing
[05:39] <Tonio_> simply rebuild ?
[05:39] <toma> yep
[05:39] <Tonio_> cool
[05:39] <Tonio_> ;)
[05:39] <Tonio_> let's test and I'll reupload
[05:40] <Tonio_> that sounds logic since the same package works on dapper
[05:40] <toma> ok
[05:41] <toma> have you had any feedback on the scrollwheel patch?
[05:41] <Tonio_> no feedback
[05:42] <toma> ok
[05:42] <Tonio_> but it isn't activated by default
[05:42] <Tonio_> that needs to be discussed too
[05:42] <Tonio_> the close button has been removed, because of lots of back feedback
[05:42] <Tonio_> I don't know if we want to have the scrolling activated by default
[05:42] <toma> middle click pastes and gives the wheel, that is what i dont like
[05:42] <Tonio_> the patch will stay for those whok wanna use it
[05:43] <toma> too bad for the close button
[05:43] <Tonio_> sure
[05:43] <Tonio_> toma: what do you mean ?
[05:43] <Tonio_> what don't you like ?
[05:43] <toma> when i paste something in a form
[05:43] <toma> with the middle mouse button
[05:44] <toma> then it will paste and the scroll thingie appears
[05:44] <Tonio_> yes
[05:44] <Tonio_> the point is I'm never using the mouse to paste :)
[05:44] <Tonio_> ctrl + v is my friend
[05:44] <toma> yes, but not if you copy from a konsole
[05:44] <Tonio_> I would like to unify the paste shortcut too
[05:44] <Tonio_> konsole uses maj + insert
[05:45] <Tonio_> some applications do
[05:45] <Tonio_> that's not convenient
[05:45] <toma> nope
[05:45] <toma> if you solve all c&p problems, I will send you flowers
[05:45] <Tonio_> let's add that to the meeting purpose
[05:45] <Tonio_> toma: I'll try at least :)
[05:46] <toma> can you send me the patch for the scroll thingie btw. i'll post it kde-core-devel for kde 3.5.5
[05:46] <Tonio_> sure just wait
[05:46] <toma> it's included in kde 3.5.4 packages, right?
[05:46] <toma> also in dapper?
[05:47] <Tonio_> yes it is
[05:47] <Tonio_> I don't know if dapper backports have been done, but I assume yes
[05:47] <Tonio_> I'm downloading the sources
[05:47] <Tonio_> 4 bugs fixed today :)
[05:48] <toma> nice work
[05:48] <Tonio_> I assume k3b has been build with a transitionnal kdelibs package or something causing the issue
[05:48] <toma> you see the same?
[05:49] <Tonio_> nope, I'm still building
[05:49] <Tonio_> 3 builds in the same time, so it is quite long, especially with a laptop :)
[05:49] <toma> ;-)
[05:52] <Tonio_> toma: here is the patch for kdelibs reguarding scroll speed
[05:52] <Tonio_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21104
[05:53] <toma> ok, got it. thanks.
[05:55] <Tonio_> toma: do you use edgy or dapper ?
[05:55] <toma> edgy from a few weeks back
[05:55] <Tonio_> katapult fails here and I'd like other people to eventually confirm this
[05:56] <Tonio_> does it work for you ?
[05:56] <toma> let me try
[05:56] <Tonio_> alt + space doesn't produce anything in my case
[05:56] <Tonio_> I tried to change the shortcut but it doesn't change anything
[05:57] <toma> alt-space should bring it up?
[05:57] <Tonio_> if the process is launched, yes
[05:57] <toma> does not work here in that case
[05:57] <Tonio_> okay
[05:57] <Tonio_> I'll post a bug and try to fix it
[06:01] <Tonio_> toma: can you confirm bug #56918 plz ? (katapult)
[06:01] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56918 in katapult "doesn't produce anything on edgy" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/56918
[06:04] <toma> Tonio_: where is that setting in konq ?
[06:06] <Tonio_> toma: you need to stop katapult and modify katapultrc file to get the systray icon back
[06:06] <Tonio_> then you can change the shortcut
[06:06] <Tonio_> k3b still doesn't wsork here........
[06:06] <Tonio_> what the hell is that......
[06:06] <Tonio_> I will restart kde eventually
[06:06] <toma> how did you rebuild?
[06:06] <toma> as a new package?
[06:07] <Tonio_> I simply pbuild the source package.....
[06:07] <toma> hmm, i did a regular build of k3b, not resulting in a package
[06:11] <Tonio_> okay I'll investigate
[06:11] <Tonio_> that can be due to build options
[06:12] <Tonio_> did you ./configure && make & make install only ?
[06:12] <Tonio_> since the the difference can be in a crappy patch
[06:12] <toma> yes
[06:13] <toma> apt-get source k3b before that
[06:13] <Tonio_> sure but did you apply the patches
[06:13] <toma> so that would include the kubuntu patches
[06:13] <Tonio_> toma: yes but patches are not applyed if you did do it manually
[06:13] <Tonio_> there can be the difference maybe... I'm testing
[06:17] <toma> eiks
[06:18] <toma> debian 162 looks suspicious
[06:20] <toma> ok, i see a potential problem with that patch, let me test that hunch
[06:23] <toma> confirmed: that patch is the problem
[06:24] <toma> i rebuild with only that patch applied and i see it again
[06:24] <yuriy> i think i've seen it discussed, but why no antialiasing in k-d-s?
[06:29] <Tonio_> yuriy: I need to check this, it is on my todo list
[06:29] <Tonio_> but I have others things to check in the meanwhile
[06:36] <Tonio_> toma: k3b now fails detecting all external programs........
[06:36] <Tonio_> I just rebuilt.....;
[06:36] <toma> Tonio_: this fails: /usr/sbin/dpkg-statoverride --quiet --update --add #0 #0 4711 /usr/bin/X11/cdrdao
[06:39] <toma> Tonio_: any idea?
[06:40] <toma> changing #0 to root for both arguments work
[06:42] <Tonio_> toma: nope, I don't understand
[06:42] <toma> so, it looks like dpkg-statoverride does not accept a #0 
[06:42] <toma> as a userid
[06:42] <Tonio_> when I launch k3b, I get a screen saying that cdrdao, cdrecord and growisofs
[06:43] <Tonio_> don't you get this one too ?
[06:43] <Tonio_>  + are missing :)
[06:43] <toma> no
[06:43] <toma> did you install it in another prefix
[06:43] <Tonio_> I'm sure there are nasty patches in the source package
[06:43] <Tonio_> I'm trying to remove the k3bsetup ones
[06:43] <Tonio_> toma: I simply repackaged the existing one
[06:43] <Tonio_> nothing more
[06:43] <toma> well, i see the problem, now i need the soluition.
[06:44] <Tonio_> hehe
[06:44] <Tonio_> I must say that's a bit too deep in the code for me
[06:44] <toma> no it is not
[06:44] <Tonio_> I can work on the package structure, but not the code itself
[06:44] <toma> simply look at man dpkg-statoverride
[06:45] <Tonio_> is the software using dpkg to update chmods ??????
[06:45] <Tonio_> I don't see the point
[06:45] <toma> yes
[06:45] <toma> statoverride does not accept #0 as a userid anymore
[06:45] <Tonio_> that sucks
[06:46] <toma> Tonio_: this is executed, try it: /usr/sbin/dpkg-statoverride --quiet --update --add #0 #0 4711 /usr/bin/X11/cdrdao
[06:46] <Tonio_> done
[06:46] <Tonio_> I'm looking for the good command
[06:47] <Tonio_> that works
[06:47] <Tonio_>  :)
[06:47] <Tonio_> replace #0 by "root"
[06:47] <Tonio_> you can use it both ways
[06:48] <toma> yes, but the groupid can be an id
[06:48] <Tonio_> is it a variable ?
[06:48] <toma> yes
[06:48] <Tonio_> user id is fixed and group id is variable....
[06:48] <Tonio_> okay
[06:49] <toma> i think it is the checkbox at the top of k3bsetup 'use a special group'
[06:49] <Tonio_> toma: try this : /usr/sbin/dpkg-statoverride --quiet --update --add "#0" "#0" 4711 /usr/bin/X11/cdrdao
[06:49] <Tonio_> works :)
[06:49] <toma> o really?
[06:49] <Tonio_> yup
[06:49] <toma> great
[06:50] <Tonio_> the point is I don't understand the new error I get when I rebuild.......
[06:50] <toma> ok, but if we fix it you don't need it anymore ;-)
[06:52] <Tonio_> sure
[06:52] <Tonio_> are you working on the patch actually ?
[06:52] <toma> yes
[06:52] <Tonio_> I have to leave for 15 minutes
[06:52] <toma> rebuilding now
[06:52] <Tonio_> okay, seya then, not more than a few minutes
[06:53] <toma> seconds
[06:54] <toma> no go
[07:01] <Tonio_> I'm there toma
[07:03] <Tonio_> toma: finally all we have to do is patch debian_162_k3bsetup_overide.diff
[07:03] <toma> Tonio_: absolutly
[07:03] <Tonio_> I can do it myself and test
[07:03] <Tonio_> that easy to do
[07:20] <freeflying_> kchmviewer crashes on ppc still exist in edgy
[07:25] <toma> Tonio_: seems to be compilcated then what we thought
[07:27] <Tonio_> toma: hu ?
[07:27] <Tonio_> is there another error ?
[07:27] <toma> Tonio_: seems so, did you manage to get it right ?
[07:27] <Tonio_> building
[07:28] <Tonio_> did you find another issue ?
[07:28] <toma> bot yet, increasing debugging now
[07:28] <Tonio_> the patch is done however, I will test once build is over
[07:28] <Tonio_> hum, time to eat for me, I will come back after this to make a point with you
[07:28] <Tonio_> I would have test to patch too
[07:30] <nixternal> what happened with adept_notifier?  or is it just not working/gone on my setup?
[07:48] <Riddell> Tonio_: pong
[07:59] <yuriy> Riddell: hi
[08:00] <yuriy> Riddell: trying to compile kde4. getting this: MESSAGE Qt4 dbusxml2cpp was not found. Make sure it has been built and installed by Qt
[08:00] <yuriy> Riddell: need to get qt from svn then? (instead of qt4-x11-kdecopy that i'm using now)
[08:03] <Riddell> yuriy: nope, just need to fix the existing qt4-x11-kdecopy
[08:09] <yuriy> Riddell: libdbus-qt4-1-dev isn't installed, would that help? or do you mean the source needs to be fixed?
[08:12] <Riddell> yuriy: it's just a binary that needs to be included in libqt4-core-kdecopy but isn't
[08:12] <Riddell> well, probably libqt4-dev-kdecopy
[08:12] <Riddell> I uploaded a fixed version but it's failed to build
[08:47] <Tonio_> Riddell: hey
[08:47] <Tonio_> Riddell: I wanted to discuss about k3b permissions with you
[08:48] <Tonio_> Riddell: it sounds a bit stupid people have to launch k3bsetup at every installation since we can preconfigure this in kds in a postinst script
[08:48] <Tonio_> what is your opinion on that point ?
[08:48] <Tonio_> the trick is pretty easy, a simple chmod on 3 binaries
[08:52] <Tonio_> toma: k3b fails even with the patch
[08:53] <Tonio_> toma: and when I build it, it looks like the second problem is still there "unable to find cdrdao, growisofs, cdrecord"
[08:53] <Tonio_> that really sucks....
[08:53] <Tonio_> I'm trying something : restart the package from the begining
[08:53] <toma> Tonio_: no, i have a patch ready for you
[08:53] <Tonio_> simple compilation works, so there is something crappy in the package, and probably to many patcjes
[08:54] <Tonio_> toma: plz send it to me ;)
[08:55] <toma> Tonio_: you can get it from http://kubuntu.omat.nl I'm recompiling with an entry in changelog and the version bumped.  I'll ping ypu when I've uploaded that. 
[08:55] <Tonio_> toma: okay I'll wait
[08:56] <Tonio_> the point I don't understand is that new error I get even when I pbuilding the old package
[08:56] <Tonio_> that doesn't make snes
[08:56] <Tonio_> sens
[08:58] <toma> Tonio_: did you alter the patch?
[08:59] <Tonio_> toma: nope
[08:59] <Tonio_> is your patch online currently ?
[08:59] <Tonio_> I don't see it
[08:59] <toma> Tonio_: it's in the k3b package..
[08:59] <toma> kubuntu_07
[08:59] <toma> the debian one is out
[09:00] <Tonio_> okay I was waiting for a new version number ;)
[09:01] <toma> would be nice to know if that package solves the problem though
[09:02] <Tonio_> toma: testing
[09:02] <Tonio_> toma: although I still don't understand why the same patch was working with previous versions
[09:03] <Tonio_> toma: currently building
[09:03] <toma> hm? there is a deb...
[09:03] <Tonio_> toma: hehe indeed ;)
[09:03] <Tonio_> let me test
[09:03] <toma> ;-)
[09:03] <Tonio_> toma: the point is that you don't split the package ?
[09:04] <Tonio_> which means I have to uninstall everything before blabla
[09:04] <Tonio_> building is fast so I merged your patch with current package
[09:05] <toma> i did not change anything in splitting/merging
[09:05] <Tonio_> toma: then you didn't upload everything
[09:05] <toma> you should be able to dpkg -i the k3b deb
[09:05] <Tonio_> k3b produces 4 packages
[09:06] <Tonio_> okay let's do it
[09:07] <Tonio_> toma: doesn't work here
[09:08] <toma> hmm
[09:08] <Tonio_> and I still get the same error while detecting cdrdao etc......
[09:08] <Tonio_> even with your package
[09:08] <toma> who, your local install is messed up ;-)
[09:08] <Tonio_> that's possible yes
[09:08] <toma> which k3b
[09:08] <Tonio_> that issue shouldn't happen
[09:08] <Tonio_> I installed your deb
[09:09] <Riddell> Tonio_: any setuid programme needs to be reviewed by pitti, but in general we should look at how to avoid it, it worked fine before
[09:09] <Tonio_> toma: okay I just resolved the second issue :)
[09:09] <toma> Tonio_: seems k3b is picked up from your local install
[09:10] <Tonio_> Riddell: dapper and as far as I remember breezy had the issue
[09:10] <Tonio_> was it working without having to set permissions with hoary ?
[09:11] <Tonio_> I must say I don't remember k3b working out of the box on kubuntu... and I installed a bunch of times :)
[09:14] <Tonio_> Riddell: what I know is that k3b permissions requirement have changed a bit about "one/one and a half" years ago to improve burning stability
[09:14] <Tonio_> so we can remove the warning, it'll work, but the burning process can be unstable
[09:15] <Tonio_> Riddell: as long as the burning device is groupo cdrom and chmod 660, you can burn...
[09:20] <toma> Tonio_: ok, i uploaded k3b ubuntu2 with signed changes. I chmod-ed crdao 755, ran k3b setup and changed permissions without problem.
[09:26] <Tonio_> toma: testing
[09:27] <toma> hope your problems are gone now 
[09:28] <Tonio_> the detection problem yes, it was local one
[09:28] <Tonio_> I'm restarting kde
[09:28] <Tonio_> I played to much, better restarting ;)
[09:28] <toma> okay
[09:32] <Tonio_> toma: you rock !!!
[09:32] <Tonio_> I'm uploading
[09:33] <Riddell> hmm
[09:33] <toma> Tonio_: hehe
[09:33] <Riddell> what's being uploaded?
[09:34] <Tonio_> Riddell: toma just resolved the k3bsetup bug, failure while applying permissions
[09:34] <Tonio_> I have the patch here and a working package
[09:35] <Tonio_> Riddell: any objection concerning the upload
[09:35] <Riddell> Tonio_: dunno, I've not seen the change
[09:35] <Tonio_> Riddell: want to have a look at the source package before ?
[09:36] <Riddell> sure
[09:40] <Tonio_> Riddell: here is the debdiff : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21124
[09:42] <Tonio_> toma: since the package is yours, I let you propose the patch upstream and debian maintainer no ?
[09:44] <Tonio_> Riddell: If you approve that, I'll upload. I can confirm k3bsetup works like a charm with that patch applied
[09:45] <Riddell> can you explain to me what the patch is actually doing?
[09:46] <Tonio_> Riddell: the old patch is using dpkg-statoverride to apply permissions
[09:47] <Tonio_> it looks like it currently fails because the command syntax has changed a bit
[09:47] <Tonio_> so toma changed that to use standard kde methods to apply permissions
[09:47] <toma> no ;-)
[09:47] <toma> i did not change that much if you compare it to the debian package
[09:48] <Tonio_> this way the patch is working for all distros and not only debian, it can be merged upstream, and the most important thing : it works :)
[09:48] <Tonio_> toma: do I miss something ?
[09:48] <Tonio_> oups ?
[09:48] <toma> i think the one that made it work again is the setShell() addition
[09:48] <toma> Tonio_: yes, you missed something
[09:49] <Tonio_> ho indeed, you still use debian-statoverride.... I didn't saws it at the end of the patch
[09:49] <toma> look at patch kubuntu_07 now, it is almost similar as debian_162 was
[09:50] <Tonio_> indeed, sorry I missed that dpkg-statoverride by the end, so I missunderstood the patch
[09:50] <Tonio_> toma: better you explain Riddell what did you change
[09:52] <toma> i think the one that made it work again is the setShell() addition
[09:53] <Riddell> so what does the rest of the changes do?
[09:54] <toma> Riddell: in comparisation to the previous patch?
[09:55] <toma> Riddell: it changes kprocess to a pointer, to get feedback from the execution of the command. I thought it would be good to keep that in so people can debug it easier in the future. 
[09:57] <toma> i can remove it if that's not ok, probably makes the diff smaller compared to the previous debian patch. 
[09:57] <Riddell> nah, that's fine, upload it
[09:58] <Tonio_> okay Riddell thanks
[09:58] <Tonio_> toma: uploading
[09:58] <Tonio_> toma: will you submit patch to debian maintainer ?
[09:58] <toma> Riddell: thanks for the review
[09:58] <Tonio_> I can do it if you lack of time
[09:58] <toma> Tonio_: feel free
[09:59] <Tonio_> toma: okay thanks
[09:59] <Riddell> "jr.falleri@gmail.com has been removed from kubuntu-devel"  :(
[09:59] <Tonio_> will do toonight after I the uvf exception request for kio-locate
[09:59] <Tonio_> Riddell: :-(
[10:00] <Tonio_> Riddell: in a certain way that will not change anything since we didn't saw him for month
[10:00] <Tonio_> Riddell: I just hope that his leaving doesn't mean he has problems
[10:02] <Riddell> anyone want to package soc project kmformat? http://www.micoulou.info/kformat/KMFormat0.1beta.tar.gz
[10:02] <yuriy> Riddell: got past the dbus error
[10:03] <Riddell> yuriy: recompiled qt4?
[10:03] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'm doing it
[10:03] <yuriy> Riddell: yup (well i had compiled it before)
[10:04] <yuriy> Configuring done :)
[10:05] <Riddell> alas the build error from last night seems to be something completely random and never seen before
[10:10] <yuriy> well this is a nice thing to see while compiling something: warning: #warning FIXME This will never work
[10:11] <Riddell> I like how kdepimlibs compiles up to 102%
[10:21] <danimo> Riddell: how does it show percentages?
[10:23] <Riddell> danimo: how not?  I don't understand your question
[10:23] <kwwii_> hi 
[10:24] <danimo> Riddell: how do you get cmake to show the state of compilation?
[10:24] <Riddell> danimo: it just does
[10:24] <Riddell> danimo: maybe latest versions only
[10:24] <danimo> makes sense
[10:24] <danimo> Riddell: does edgy come with it?
[10:24] <danimo> (latest version)
[10:24] <Riddell> danimo: yes
[10:24] <danimo> ok, cool
[10:25] <Riddell> kwwii_: your .desktop file says "Author=Jim Bustos (jimbustos@gmail.com)" is that right or should I change it to you?
[10:31] <kwwii_> Riddell: hehe, I just put the one in from the old theme :-)
[10:31] <kwwii_> please do :-)
[10:31] <Riddell> kwwii_: ok, I'll upload
[10:32] <kwwii_> Riddell: cool, thanks for checking
[10:33] <Riddell> kwwii_: are you able to make a screenshot of that theme?
[10:34] <kwwii_> Riddell: no, but I can make a fake (without the text entry widgets)
[10:34] <Riddell> kwwii_: good enough :)
[10:34] <Riddell> actually we need to put borders on those widgets
[10:37] <kwwii_> Riddell: not sure what you mean by borders?
[10:38] <Riddell> kwwii_: KDM in KDE 3.5.4 changed so the text widgets don't have the normal widget frame on them, you need to explicity add a border
[10:39] <yuriy> ah there's the 102%
[10:39] <Riddell> yuriy: KDE 4, going that little percentage extra :)
[10:39] <kwwii_> Riddell: cool...so I should add a box in the xml
[10:39] <kwwii_> I will be leaving for germany tomorrow
[10:39] <Riddell> kwwii_: yep
[10:40] <Riddell> kwwii_: me too :)
[10:40] <kwwii_> but am afraid that I will not make the next plane in chicago due to the security problems
[10:40] <Riddell> kwwii_: I see you're sleeping with the ubuntu artist 
[10:40] <kwwii_> hehe, yepp
[10:40] <Riddell> kwwii_: how badly are the security restrictions going to mess up your travel?
[10:40] <kwwii_> Riddell: could you send me your cell phone number, so that I can call you if I can't make the plane tomorrow night in chicago?
[10:41] <Riddell> kwwii_: jriddell.org/contact.html
[10:41] <yuriy> Riddell: trying to compile kdebase, tells me that X11_XTest_LIB (ADVANCED) needs to be set
[10:41] <Riddell> yuriy: you need to export LD_thing as said in kdelibs/COMPILING
[10:43] <kwwii_> Riddell: does that include your country code?
[10:43] <Riddell> kwwii_: remove the 0 add +44
[10:44] <kwwii_> Riddell: cool, thanks...if anything comes up I'll let you know
[10:51] <yuriy> Riddell: nope that's not it
[10:53] <Riddell> yuriy: not sure I'm afraid, I've not seen your problem
[10:54] <\sh> re
[11:20] <\sh> Riddell: is something wrong with libarts1?`  libarts1-dev: Depends: libqt3-mt-dev (>= 3:3.3.5) but it is not going to be installed
[11:20] <Riddell> \sh: not that I know of
[11:20] <danimo> !info xlibmesa-gl-dev
[11:20] <ubotu> Package xlibmesa-gl-dev does not exist in dapper
[11:21] <\sh> libgl1-mesa-dev
[11:21] <\sh> strange
[11:21] <danimo> \sh: the odd thing is: I have the package here
[11:21] <Riddell> \sh: but looks like you have a problem with libqt3-mt-dev
[11:21] <\sh> Riddell: fresh pbuilder chroot
[11:22] <\sh> lemme check
[11:24] <superstoned> kwwii: do you know how's the artwork going, any idea if surprises are coming? i wonder if we will see a new style... polyester is approaching 1.0 ;-)
[11:24] <Riddell> superstoned: new KDM theme just uploaded
[11:25] <superstoned> cool
[11:26] <Tonio_> Riddell: I just finished uvf excetption for kio-locate, I'm packaging your KMthing
[11:29] <Tonio_> hey \sh
[11:31] <\sh> hey Tonio_
[11:37] <\sh> hmmm.strange in pbuilder it won't work..but in a chroot ... 
[11:44] <yuriy> Riddell: installing libxtst-dev solved that error