=== apacheLAGger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger is now known as apachelogger === apacheLAGger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger is now known as apachelogger === yuriylap [n=yuriylap@207-172-219-193.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger is now known as apachelogger [01:09] KDE 4 released http://dot.kde.org/1155935483/ [01:10] !!!!!!!!!!!!!???!?!??!!! [01:11] ohhhhhhh /me go's to compile for edgy [01:11] heya Riddell === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:12] Riddell: are you gonna make packages for kubuntu.org for edgy ? or are we gonna try to get it in edgy universe ? or neither and i can put them on imbrandon.com ;) [01:13] Riddell: cool. how is this different from checking out svn trunk? [01:14] yuriy: it's known to compile [01:15] i guess that's a good thing :) [01:15] imbrandon: I'll give it a shot, not sure the best way to do it, might just have them installed to /opt or something [01:15] yea or maybe hrm , yea [01:15] compiling you can do it in ~/.kde4 but a package [01:15] hehe === imbrandon go's to blog about it ...... [01:19] Riddell: btw cmake got synced the other day so it should not need to be compiled [01:20] ( to the version kde4 requires ) [01:24] can qt4 and cmake be installed from repos? [01:24] cmake can, qt4 not sure [01:24] yuriy assuming you mean edgy [01:24] imbrandon: yup, edgy [01:24] yea cmake can for sure i know i synced that yesterday [01:25] qt4 not sure ask Riddell heh [01:25] yuriy: qt4-x11-kdecopy [01:25] but it's missing the dbus tools === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ooh,] [01:27] cool, kde4libs compiling away [01:27] output almost as nice as unsermake [01:27] at 2% === Riddell goes to bed [01:27] nice [01:27] hehe gnight Riddell [01:35] night Riddell [01:35] someone else maybe: i don't see a qt4-x11-kdecopy package [01:36] its there ( sources ) [01:36] brandon@voyager:~$ apt-cache madison qt4-x11-kdecopy [01:36] qt4-x11-kdecopy | 4.2.0~svn20060706-0ubuntu2 | http://192.168.1.5 edgy/universe Sources [01:36] qt4-x11-kdecopy | 4.2.0~svn20060706-0ubuntu2 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Sources [01:36] brandon@voyager:~$ [01:37] imbrandon: ah right source [01:57] imbrandon: since qt installs itself in its source tree, should make install not be run with sudo? [01:57] yuriy tbh i dont know [01:57] i havent messed with trying to complie 4 yet === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:12] Hello [02:12] imbrandon: I told a friend of mine last night about Dh and the stuff you mentioned who is with 1and1. Come to find out his account expired in 4 days so he made the switch last night to DH and loves it [02:12] Hey there bddebian [02:12] Hi Hawkwind [02:13] imbrandon: He also got someone in #Dreamhost to give him a $96 coupon code so he got the level 1 package, for a year, for $23 === claydoh [n=clay@66-252-38-173.da.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:25] yeah :D :D === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _claydoh [n=clay@66-252-38-161.da.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:40] morning all [03:59] Hobbsee: Good morning [04:03] hey Hawkwind :) [04:03] How's life in Aussie land === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:04] Hawkwind: kinda cold. and i have to go to work again soon :( [04:05] I wish I could say it was kind of cold. It's 99F here with 89% humidity. To top it off, it's 9pm at night :( [04:05] hehe [04:05] 99F hey? wonder what that is in C. [04:06] <-( flootbnj )-> 99 Fahrenheit is 37.2222 Celsius. [04:06] Heh [04:06] nice and warm! [04:06] a bit hot though :P [04:06] Just a bit [04:12] work time === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde-away [n=lnxkde@206.248.109.24] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@ubuntu/member/ajmitch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzh@fw.zaporizhstal.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzh@fw.zaporizhstal.com] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === serzholino [n=serzh@fw.zaporizhstal.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mornfall [n=mornfall@rb4b151.net.upc.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.109.24] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:43] I am creating a Kubuntu Live CD with my peronal apps and all my nice things [07:43] so I ask, I can do a apt-get clean I will not need the .debs for installing with ubiquity later on right? [07:44] ubiquity just copy the files it does not use the debs [07:44] right? [08:13] lnxkde: ubiquty just for install [08:18] I made a 747mb iso :( [08:18] I need a 750mb cd-r [08:18] ^#%#^ I wonder were I can get one near by [08:19] lnxkde: use k3b with super burn [08:19] :) [08:19] you know [08:19] I make a nice livecd [08:20] s/super burn/over burn/g [08:20] ;) [08:20] with skype/allmost all media codecs enabled, java-sun, k9copy, amarok-xine and kaffeine-xine, libdvdcss [08:20] lnxkde: so howed it turn out? what guidde did you follow? i ended up making some live dvd's but could never get the install right [08:20] it is avery nice media live Kubuntu disk :D [08:21] I havent tried to install yet [08:21] nice yea thats what i did [08:21] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6.06 [08:21] onyl dvd cuz i installed alot more than the cd would hold, also removed openoffice and put koffice etc [08:21] I followed that [08:21] I also did that [08:22] I removed openoffice [08:22] but I just installed kpresentr kword, kspread and kchart [08:22] imbrandon: guy from ubuntu-tw has a perl scripts for generate livecd, do you need it? :) [08:23] freeflying: sure [08:23] i would love it [08:23] I want it too [08:23] %#$^ no cd-rs here... [08:24] I will have to burn it to a DVD [08:24] [01:23] [DCC] DCC download of file "/home/brandon/dccrecv/build-livecd-current.tar.gz" failed. reason: Connection failure: timed operation timed out [08:24] dcc hates me [08:25] my fifo buffer is acting strange as hell... [08:26] and writing at a slow 3.90x speed [08:26] :( [08:26] imbrandon: lnxkde , just a moment, i'll put it on website [08:26] cool thanks [08:26] thankx freeflying [08:28] imbrandon: lnxkde http://www.ubuntu-zh.org/~freeflying/pud/ === lnxkde very impatient with his livecd !! and is going to reeboot to see it in action [08:29] I dont know if I must do a install.... [08:29] cool grabing now, is there a useage file or readme ? [08:29] lnxkde: use qemu [08:29] to test [08:29] ;) [08:29] s/qemu/vmware [08:29] in qemu it loaded p nice [08:29] but is too slow to test mp3s and things [08:29] imbrandon: ya [08:30] freeflying: cool [08:30] brb [08:31] imbrandon: sorry, they haven't ship with a Readme, but it seems very easy to use it [08:31] cool , does it need an iso to start with or.... [08:31] imbrandon: no [08:32] imbrandon: it just from scratch :) [08:32] with debootstrap [08:32] nice [08:32] so i just run it in a dir i want and install the stuff i want [08:32] etc etc etc [08:32] so i could build a sid cd or edgy === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.34.91] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:33] nice [08:33] even an alternate and stuff too ? nice [08:34] imbrandon: you just need write down what you wanna install in install.txt,and then pud will do all things for you [08:35] imbrandon: and you can use grub to boot your livecd :) [08:35] sweet, does it make it installable to the hdd too ? [08:35] with ubiguity ? === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@206.248.109.24] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:36] imbrandon: with ubiquty, sure can you :) [08:36] :) [08:36] nice [08:36] KDE 3.5.4/Amarok 1.4.1 /and all the nice things working nice as in my installation :D [08:37] ;) [08:42] I am feeling this will to install it on my system.... but the thing is that my system is so perfectly installed :p [08:42] heh thats why i said test it in vmware to install ;) [08:42] so you dont mess it up [08:42] yep [08:45] It will be nice if this works [08:45] to publish it :D [08:45] as lnxkde supermedia Non-OSs Kubuntu 6.06.1m [08:46] heh [08:47] ...as what? [08:47] imbrandon: freeflying what do you think to have this on a server and let people use it? then I will get a nice sue from the libcss guys and from java, and some other things lol [08:48] na, I use vlos and they include all media codecs in a default install [08:48] yup probably , it cant be on a US server [08:48] vidalinux.com and they never had problems [08:48] and vlos are from here in PR,USA [08:49] lnxkde: vlos -> gentoo? [08:49] dident say you couldent so it , but it will be illeagl [08:49] yep [08:49] apparently you can't in some parts of EU, too. [08:49] exactly, thats why when i make mine its just for family ;) [08:49] freeflying: vidalinux.com :) [08:50] lnxkde: I've tried it 3 years before :) [08:50] quote "By purchasing VLOS ...." they prob pay lic fee's [08:50] to stay legit [08:51] they can pay for the w32codecs....? [08:51] imbrandon: no, they won't pay any lic [08:52] I hope they never have a problem they are from my country and I try supporting them [08:52] but the truth is that they are violationg even the GPL2 [08:52] no ppc ;( [08:53] they provide binary nvidia and ati drivers out of the installation, w32codecs, mp3, libdvdcss [08:54] that dosent look legit then to me not if its in the US [08:54] yep right from Puerto Rico [08:54] pr is covered by US law afaik [08:55] Puerto Rico is ruled by federal laws like any state [08:55] PR is almost a state [08:55] right , including copyright ones ;) [08:55] i know ;) [08:55] but they just dont care I think [08:56] exactly , this means they CAN be sued, dosent mean they /will/ be [08:56] I know [08:56] but I only help making amd64 packages of KDE stuff... [08:56] yea pr guam and virgin islands are all "teritories" , almost states [08:57] I kind of hate gentoo... but I love it in another way too [08:57] lol [08:57] :p but well I use kubuntu as default desktop [08:57] gentoo == GENeraly TOO much trubble IMHO [08:57] I use vlos just to test it and help with it [08:58] and of cource to spend hours compiling KDE ;P [08:58] heh [08:58] i feel ya this kde4 snapshot is takin FOREVER and something tells me it wont finish the first try [08:58] anyhow brb [08:58] ok === mornfall [n=mornfall@rb4b151.net.upc.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:00] imbrandon: freeflying laterz [09:00] I must go and get some sleep [09:00] is 3:15 hr [09:00] here [09:00] 3:15am is time to sleep :p [09:00] God bless you 2 [09:00] bye bye [09:01] bye === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-200-242.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-200-242.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.87.144] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflyi1g [n=freeflyi@221.221.148.241] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@123.49.239.66] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@titoph.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:20] hey [11:20] hi Tonio_ [11:20] heya Tonio_ [11:23] Hobbsee: I need help concerning a patch and I don't want to disturb aaron seigo with this (he his kicker maintainer) [11:23] Hobbsee: maybe you can help [11:23] Tonio_: possibly. i dobut i know much though :P [11:24] Hobbsee: let me explain you === Hobbsee is unexplainable :P [11:25] the goal is to patch kicker to get "normal" size to 48 instead of 46 [11:25] here is my patch (failing one) [11:25] right, yep [11:26] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21064 [11:26] I'm probably miss something but what ??? [11:26] I must say I don't know [11:28] Tonio_: no idea - tried seeing where 46 occurs in other places? [11:28] Hobbsee: sure ;) [11:28] for 2 days at least [11:29] was it enlightening? [11:29] ah [11:29] but I don't find anything [11:29] ah [11:36] Hobbsee: any idea [11:36] ? [11:36] Tonio_: none, sorry [11:37] Hobbsee: no pb === My8os [n=My8os@ppp200-107.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel [12:04] Tonio_: did you try to edit /usr/share/apps/kconf_update/kicker-3.1-properSizeSetting.pl on a running system? did that work? [12:05] fdoving: my patch patches this file too [12:06] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21064 [12:06] here is the point [12:06] there is certainly a third thing to patch bt where and what ? [12:06] that's the great question === My8os [n=My8os@ppp200-107.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@78.75.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@78.75.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:31] hum, kio-beagle ftbfs on edgy... [12:32] I will investogate this today === OdyX_ [n=Didier@252.238.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-37-243.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === danimo [n=danimo@kde/danimo] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:14] moin! [01:14] imbrandon: you get excited easily, don't you? :) [01:15] heh why do you say that ? [01:15] imbrandon: dot article :) [01:16] ahh ;) [01:16] planet.u.c too ;) [01:16] heh === Hobbsee should get her blog added to planet.u.c [01:17] Hobbsee: you've got a blog? get it aggregated already :) [01:18] danimo: i have a blog, i dont have anything in it === Hobbsee wonders where it is. [01:18] Hobbsee: its simple, give me your gotchi.png and a feed url and i can add you in 5 seconds ( or you can do it following the wiki ) [01:18] Hobbsee: I haven't blogged in ages [01:18] imbrandon: true that. my gotchi.png? === Hobbsee doesnt tend to like blogs [01:18] but i'm getting less shy, so maybe i can cope with them :P [01:18] big face like all the others ;) [01:18] Hobbsee: absolutely [01:19] hum. but i try to keep photos of myself hidden :P [01:19] http://planet.ubuntu.com/heads/imbrandon.png <-- like that [01:19] Hobbsee: is that why you posted two on this channel? :) [01:19] <\sh> Hobbsee: planet.kubuntu.de is waiting for you too :) [01:19] ahh its just a head shot, look at jdubs wife ;) [01:19] danimo: true that. [01:19] imbrandon: what's the photo of pia like? [01:20] hold on i'll show ya === Hobbsee got a phone call from pia last night actually :) === Hobbsee saw a really gorgeous picture of her too - they should post that one around a bit :P [01:20] \sh: heh [01:20] danimo: most people dont check these logs [01:20] Hobbsee: pia <-- http://waugh.id.au/img/greebo.png [01:20] err http://waugh.id.au/img/greebo.png <-- pia ;) [01:20] purty :) [01:21] she doesnt look like that any more though [01:21] i can take one of your choosing and photoshop it if you want, i realy think its a good idea ;) [01:21] Hobbsee: i dunno i got it from http://waugh.id.au/ ;) [01:21] hum. [01:21] most of the photos of me look terrible. === Hobbsee looks evil in all of the last year's worth of photos. [01:22] use the car one with shades in the sun , like mako ;) [01:22] imbrandon: true that. that must have been from her wedding [01:22] she has short hair now :P === Hobbsee had to figure out if it was really pia. [01:22] heh [01:23] heh i'm not on planet.kubuntu.de [01:23] might add that one someday [01:23] \sh: go add poor imbrandon :) [01:23] lol [01:24] if you do just link to my "linux" rss so you dont get all my other junk ;) [01:24] <\sh> imbrandon: send me your gotchi and your feed to sh [01:24] <\sh> @sourcecode.de ;) [01:24] k one sec [01:24] <\sh> imbrandon: i'm glad to read your other junk as well...I'm p*ssing off some US guys sometimes .... read the comments on my blog ;) [01:26] lol [01:26] http://users.unsw.compsoc.net/~saraf/linuxchix_meeting/ [01:26] what about us guys trying to move to the UK ? heh [01:26] imbrandon: the new pia ^ [01:29] \sh: sent , and thanks btw ;) [01:29] Hobbsee: cool [01:29] imbrandon: and pics of me, of course. they dont look *that* bad either [01:29] might be hackergotchi material [01:30] ;) [01:31] want me to photoshop one up real fast and see what you think ? [01:32] if you want, talk to danimo who is also looking [01:32] see if you can get rid of my rotten red eyes, and then i can add it to LP [01:32] heh ok , doing it now [01:34] yea i changed all my mr patatoe head ones last night === OdyX [n=Didier@252.238.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:37] <\sh> imbrandon: done :) planet.kubuntu.de and universe.kubuntu.de ;) [01:38] nice thanks === imbrandon notes no one has noticed the kubuntu logo on his ballcap yet [01:45] ballcap ? === Hagbarddenstore [n=hagbardd@81-235-254-217-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:45] insanekane: see planet.kubuntu.de [01:46] or planet.u.c [01:46] or my blog ;) === _Sime [n=konversa@84.87.157.27] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [02:06] should artsd for root be disabled by k-d-s? adept triggers artsd, if not disabled. === Hagbarddenstore [n=hagbardd@81-235-254-217-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:07] @time sydney [02:07] Current time in Australia/Sydney: August 19 2006, 22:07:48 [02:07] hum. it is saturday. === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:10] @time berlin [02:10] Current time in Europe/Berlin: August 19 2006, 14:10:11 === Hagbarddenstore [n=hagbardd@81-235-254-217-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:12] @time culemborg === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ooh,] [03:29] hey toma [03:29] argh missed.... [03:29] moins jpatrick [03:32] hey jpatrick [03:32] yo imbrandon [03:32] sup Tonio_ ;) [03:33] moins imbrandon and Tonio_ === OdyX [n=Didier@252.238.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:39] jpatrick: anything you have to work on currently ? [03:39] I'm looking for help regarding a kdebase patch that drives me nuts [03:39] Tonio_: No [03:39] jpatrick: interested helping me on that point ? [03:40] I'm turning arround and will not find by myself [03:40] which kde version? [03:40] 3.5.4 or 3.5.3 [03:40] same issue on both [03:40] here is the point [03:40] I have 3.5.2 [03:40] jpatrick: should be the same issue [03:41] I want to patch kicker for "normal" size to be 48 pix instead of 46 [03:41] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21064 [03:41] here is my patch but it looks somehow incomplete [03:41] I don't see where is the missing thing... [03:41] I'd be glad if you can help [03:42] has anyone used keep on dapper? [03:42] Tonio_: can't the config be patched? [03:42] jpatrick: yes I can do that using personalised value and set it to 48 [03:43] but I would like to patch the standard "normal" value instead [03:43] by far cleaner way to proceeds === OdyX [n=Didier@252.238.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@252.238.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === goldenear [n=goldenea@vol75-4-82-225-33-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@252.238.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [i=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:56] jpatrick: interested eventually ? [03:57] Tonio_: I don't know [03:57] jpatrick: you see :) [03:57] I can ask for help to tomas too [03:57] I will not find now... [03:58] mail him [03:59] jpatrick: will do [03:59] jpatrick: I can also email aaron seigo, he maintains it [04:00] yeah [04:09] kubuntu package installer service menu fails too (unable to give package infos) [04:09] Riddell: I'm fixing this [04:12] Riddell: ping [04:13] kio-beagle is fixed [04:14] hey Mez [04:15] hey Tonio_ === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:20] Hello === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pounk [n=pounkf@142-217-81-161.telebecinternet.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@221.221.163.228] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflyi2g [n=freeflyi@221.221.163.228] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:53] someone here using 3.5.4 ? [04:53] I would like to confirm a bug before reporting === imbrandon is now known as imbrandon_ === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aplg [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:01] Riddell: ping ? [05:06] Tonio_: i can test, but give me a second, i need to fix a spam-server first [05:07] hmm, anti-spam server ;-) [05:08] toma: thanks a lot [05:08] toma: I also need your help concerning a little patch for kdebase when you have time [05:09] currently I'm trying to fix k3bsetup that fails to apply permissions correctly [05:10] Tonio_: allright [05:10] Tonio_: what do you want confirmed? [05:11] toma: when I insert a cd I don't see it on the desktop [05:11] owww [05:11] kde apparently fails to mount it correctly [05:11] i dont have a cd-player [05:11] no issues with usb keys or other kind of memory [05:11] argh [05:11] ;) [05:11] okay so maybe you can look at the second issue :) [05:12] shoot [05:12] we want to fix kicker for "normal" size to use 48 pix instead of 46 === aplg is now known as apachelogger [05:12] here is my patch (doesn't work) [05:12] I should miss something but what ??? ;) [05:12] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21064 [05:12] there it is [05:12] i looked at that earlier i believe [05:13] i did not found the answer back then [05:13] hum yes [05:14] what i can do, is ask aaron seigo to look at it / talk to you. [05:14] I will probably ask aaron seigo directly [05:14] I know aaron pretty well now so he might not ignore me [05:14] ^^ [05:14] allright [05:14] if you need help bug me [05:14] sure [05:15] well k3b causes issues to everyone actually [05:15] k3bsetup fails to chmod external programs for a reason I don'"t understand [05:15] manual chmod works perfectly [05:15] that's with a cd-player right ;-) [05:15] ? [05:15] nope [05:15] that pure code and doesn't require any cdplayer [05:16] cool [05:16] if you launch k3bsetup you will see permissions on cdrdao, growisofs cannot be applied [05:16] that works manually, so we should be able to patch quite easilly [05:16] the point is there is no output on it that gives any info... [05:19] i just hit 'apply' and it says it is not possible [05:19] that is the problem? [05:20] yes [05:20] chmod 4711 /usr/bin/cdrdao fails [05:20] for example [05:21] but manual chmod works [05:21] so there is a trick in the code th change this probably... [05:21] give me a minute to read the source [05:21] if you set the permissions manually, there is no issue [05:21] in my opinion, those permissions should be set by kds directly [05:22] there is no reason evey user has to set them manually on each installation [05:22] they should be set out of the box [05:22] right [05:22] I can do that but it would be nice to fix k3b in the first place [05:22] then it should be done by the package which installs those files [05:22] and suggest the second option to riddell [05:23] having to set permissions goes against simplicity [05:23] definitly [05:23] toma: no, because I'm not sure gnome programs need the same permissions [05:23] that's the reason a postinst script in kds is probably better [05:24] ok [05:25] I'm adding a note for the next meeting [05:25] concerning the preconfiguration [05:25]