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trey_does anyone have the next three days to help me with this i have a ton of questions?12:09
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Meztrey_. probably not one person - but just ask questions and people will anser if they can12:10
Blissextrey_: that question came close to sounding like ''do you want to be my bitch?'' :-) Not a very good start... :-)12:11
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lordhelmettrey: lol just ask away dude12:12
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trey_no not at all Blissex i just want you to be forwarned that i am very very very new12:12
lordhelmettrey: we all were at one point12:12
trey_i want to set up this os to run my hardware like sound video and games and what not how do i do this where do i start right now i have no sound and dont know if its even detectintg my sound card12:13
lordhelmetdmesg | less12:13
lordhelmetlook around for sound card related things12:13
Meztrey_, a lot of your questions regarding hardware etc can be answered in #ubuntu aswell :D12:13
trey_is this kubuntu 64bit capable12:14
lordhelmetalso use alsamixer or something to make sure everything is enable12:14
trey_what is alsamixer12:14
lordhelmet64bit: yes if you use the 64 bit installer cd12:14
lordhelmetmixer control panel for alsa12:15
lordhelmeti think you can apt-get install alsamixer12:15
lordhelmetthere's also alsamixergui12:15
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trey_is like the device manager for windows12:15
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lordhelmetmore like the volume control, but the big one when you double click the speaker12:16
dawizalsamixer is sound control12:16
trey_ok gotcha12:16
dawizin terminal type: 'alsamixer'12:16
lordhelmetbtw what are you installing this on? hardwarewise...like mobo, processor, video card, sound card, etc12:16
trey_back to the 64 bit deal i got the x86 version because the 64 bit was listed for use with amd i am using and intel pentium d do i need to uninstall this version and run the other?12:17
lordhelmetamd64 is just the term to describe 64 bit, since amd did it first, but yes for 64bit you need the amd64 installer12:17
lordhelmetalthough it's not really worth it for most things12:18
lordhelmetmakes some things harder12:18
lordhelmetlike firefox plugins, etc12:18
dawizfark macromedia12:18
dawizno support for linux ppc12:18
lordhelmetsince ur new, i would suggest playing with the x86 version. you'll have less problems12:18
dawizwtf bastards12:18
trey_so should i run this or the other i am obviously very new i would think simpler is better right12:19
lordhelmetyes just stick with what you have12:19
Mezdawiz, moderate your language please12:20
trey_ok so back to this sound problem how can i check to see if my soundcard is even installed i mean i know the hardware is in the computer but what about the software side of it12:20
lordhelmet'dmesg' list all the stuff the kernel does at boot, regarding hardware detection so type 'dmesg | less' in a terminal and read through some of that and look for sound card stuff12:20
trey_type dmesg i get but terminal is foreign what is that12:21
dawizmoderate my language?12:21
dawizi did12:22
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lordhelmetterminal is foreign? like foreign language?12:23
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trey_no i am sorry i just dont know what you mean by terminal12:23
trey_do you still want to know all the hardware i am using sry i missed that earlier12:24
dawiztrey: do you know how to open a shell?12:25
nagyvHow can I assign a protocol (lastfm://) to a given program (Amarok) in Firefox (or better in KDE, but to be used by Firefox too)?12:25
dawizor command line?12:25
trey_you mean the run command option12:25
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dawizno12:27
dawizopen terminal12:27
dawizK-->system-->Konsole12:27
dawiztrey12:27
trey_no i have no clue what your talking about12:27
dawizcan you point and click?12:27
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trey_certianly12:27
dawizK-->system-->Konsole12:28
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trey_ohh my god ok i got you12:28
dawizright on12:28
dawizthis is a terminal12:28
trey_ok gotcha12:28
dawizaka shell12:28
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dawizyou can control your whole system manually through this12:29
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trey_ok12:29
dawizsometimes its preferred12:29
trey_ok i am just really used to windows so please be patient12:29
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trey_how can i look to see what hardware is recognized and in use12:30
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trey_using this shell12:30
joriktype lspci12:30
jorik(and hit enter)12:30
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trey_ispci response is command not found12:31
joriklol, lspci ... with an l12:31
jorikan L12:31
dawizbut luckily for you kubuntu has gone to great lengths to make the gui user friendly12:31
dawizif you really want to learn *nix youll certainly have to familiarize yourself with a command line12:31
dawizlspci12:31
dawizmust be exact12:31
trey_oh roger that12:31
dawizand is casa sensitive12:31
dawizcase*12:31
trey_ok got a whole list of stuff12:32
joriktry http://www.linuxcommand.org/ to learn the command line12:32
dawizwhat is it your trying to do?12:32
trey_trying to install a sound and video card12:32
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trey_saved that link jorik thank you12:33
dawiza new one?12:33
jorikhmmm, what video card ?12:33
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dawiznice link jorik12:33
jujimufuI do "sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.17", just as it says in https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KernelCustomBuild , but it says that this package does not exist. Any ideas?12:33
trey_they are new to this os right the video is a nvidia 790012:33
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dawizis this a first time install?12:34
dawizits been a minute since i installed nvidia12:34
dawizon linux12:34
dawizif i remember right youll need drivers12:34
dawizavail from nvidia12:35
trey_yes first time for this linux os i havent done anything but instal kubuntu on a blank drive12:35
dawiz?12:35
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dawizwas the card installed already?12:35
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trey_yes it was12:35
dawizahh12:35
dawizok12:35
dawizyou need the nvidia drivers12:35
dawizpretty sure12:35
trey_ok so just download normally from nvidia12:36
dawizbeen at least a year since ive done it tho12:36
dawizum12:36
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dawizgo to nvidias site12:36
dawizget proper drivers12:36
dawizfollow instructions12:36
trey_ok12:36
dawizcant remember which directory to put them off the top of my head12:37
trey_they dont have to specific to linux though right just the latest drivers12:37
dawizno12:37
dawizone sec12:37
trey_ok i see options for linux its Ia32 or Ia64 or amd64/em64t or freebsd12:38
dawizhttp://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp12:38
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dawizwell12:39
trey_right thats where i am looking12:39
dawizwhat platform are you on12:39
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trey_i am guessing the linux la3212:40
dawizyou on intel?12:40
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trey_yes12:40
dawizyeah12:40
dawizgo 32bit12:40
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trey_i am using a pentium d thought wich is 64 but the kubuntu i got i the x86 version so still go 3212:41
dawizinstallation instructions are ri9ght there12:41
dawizyeah12:41
dawizshould be ok12:42
ccc_!nvidia12:42
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:42
ccc_trey_: ^12:42
dawizyeah that howto from ubuntu is prolly designed for friendlyness12:42
trey_thanks you for the link and help i will see what i can do with the info you have givin me thank you agian12:43
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dawiznp12:43
trey_oh wait how can i tell if the card has been installed properly once i do these things12:43
dawizum12:43
dawizif video loads your good12:43
dawizum other than that lspci should work...i think12:44
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dawizshould list it12:44
jorikit says so in the url12:44
apallo19what's the name of the latest samba package?12:44
trey_ok  thank you12:44
jorikrun "glxinfo" in a terminal12:44
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ballchalkhi12:45
joriksee if it says "direct rendering: Yes"12:45
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dawizthis will be a good crash course for you12:45
dawizhehehe12:45
ballchalkwhich file(s) are resposible for video card settings?12:45
dawizyou get to edit .config files12:45
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dawizat least theyll tell you what to edit for this one tho12:46
dawizmwahahaha12:46
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dawizi hate that12:46
dawiz"edit this"12:46
nagyvI have installed amarok 1.4, and it says that KDE should handle the lastfm:// protocol automatically, but in my case it doesn't. What should I do? (source: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Packaging_Amarok#lastfm:.2F.2F_protocol_for_Firefox)12:46
dawizbut doesnt tell you what to edit12:46
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dawizlol12:46
red_having a problem playing music stored on a fat32 partition12:46
red_it plays then stops immediatly12:47
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dawizshould be pretty dtr8 forward from here trey12:47
dawizstr8*12:48
red_its on a seperate partition12:49
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jorikred_: seems a rather odd problem, is this happening to all your songs on the partition ? do they work under windows ? what about regular files on the partition, are they ok ? can you play songs from other partitions ?12:49
dawizlater guys12:50
joriklaterz12:50
red_yes they work on the windows partition12:50
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red_i also have my mail stored on that partition and it works fime12:50
red_and its for all songs12:50
red_all of my music is on the same partition12:51
joriktry copying a song over to another partition and playing it from there12:51
red_i have 3 one for kubuntu, 1 for windows, and 1 for music and storage12:51
red_ok12:51
red_will do12:51
red_been trying to figure this out for the last couple of days but its drivin me nuts12:52
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trey_ok dawiz i got the driver try to double click and run it it opens in a program called Kate and both links to help files i got did not exist anymore12:53
ccc_nagyv: you're using amarok 1.4.0?12:53
ccc_nagyv: sorry, "1.4"12:54
nagyvccc_: 1.4.112:54
ccc_ok, thought so :) does it work in konqueror?12:54
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red_<jorik> it still will not play even if its on the same partition12:55
trey_can anyone give me a link to setting up kubuntu fo idiots or something similar something that covers the basic so i can at least be intelligable when i come back here and ask questions12:55
jorikred_: it's probably your audio player then, what are you using ? did you install the mp3 codecs ?12:56
st3Can anyone tell me how to run 1680 by 1050 resolution. Im new to Kubuntu and Linux in General. My research shows me I need 915resolution package installed but after I type "sudo apt-get install 915resolution" it tells me "Couldn't find package 915resolution"12:56
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red_didnt realize i had to install the mp3 codecs12:56
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larson9999ok, trying the tv tuner out12:56
red_ill try that12:56
joriktrey_: read the topic, search google and the forums12:56
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red_i used kaffine, and amaroK12:56
the-ermmplayer ...12:57
ballchalkhello how do i upgrade my amarok to 1.4.1?12:57
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ballchalki did the sources.list and everything just need to know how to retrieve it12:58
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ccc_ballchalk: sudo apt-get install amarok12:59
ballchalkccc_: nevmd i got it thorugh adept01:00
ballchalkthakns01:00
joriklol, i found a bug01:00
^MiNi_D^Kaffine wont play ANY sound01:00
^MiNi_D^but the system panel will01:00
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^MiNi_D^any1 help me?01:00
red_<jorik> a bug that plays music01:01
red_thats nice01:01
jorikred_: is everything working now ?01:01
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red_i got a player called XMMS01:03
red_it plays01:03
newbie_1000I like XMMS. Basic, but works, like WinAmp01:03
cozomoeverysing01:03
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red_i like winamp too01:04
red_wouldnt mind having winamp01:04
newbie_1000Anybody have any tips on installing nVidia drivers?01:04
newbie_1000Winamp does have more features.01:04
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ccc_red_: wait till you find out all the features in amarok. :) it's fantastic01:05
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newbie_1000amaroK is really cool. Love the Lyrics and Wikipedia downloads.01:06
red_if i could get amarok to play that would be great too01:06
newbie_1000does KsCD play?01:06
ccc_red_: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MP3_on_Kubuntu_6.0601:07
ballchalki don't have gcc01:07
ballchalkhow do i set it up01:07
ballchalki got the bases of 3.3 and 4.0 installed01:07
ballchalkbut no command01:07
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ccc_newbie_1000: oh and don't forget the last.fm radio01:07
klerfaytnewbie_1000: enable multiverse&universe; install nvidia-glx; run sudo nvidia-xconfig and reboot01:08
newbie_1000klerfayt: ok, what if my card, RIVA TNT2, is a "legacy" card?01:09
ballchalkdid it01:10
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klerfaytnewbie_1000: then you install nvidia-glx legacy?01:10
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farousneed a recomendation here have to options for external HD a comstar 300gb which is basically a Maxtor 6L 300 R0 drive and the other option is a maxtor 200gb one touch II hd. Any recommend which is better in terms of heat and spinning down when not used specifically01:10
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Cr4sh5hey guys got a question  i wanna load Kubuntu on my main comp but I dotn wanan loose my window stuff how can I create a divider01:11
farousrobert__: this is specified in our fstab file01:11
newbie_1000klerfayt: thanks. I'll be bakc later if I need more help.01:11
faroussorry worng chan robert__01:11
Cr4sh5anyone?01:11
^MiNi_D^how do i found the device name of the sound card im using?01:12
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ballchalki have no sound from amarok streaming01:12
ballchalkwhat do i need to check for?01:12
Cr4sh5I need to create  divider in my hd so I can load linux01:13
Cr4sh5without losing my windows copy01:13
^MiNi_D^fdisk Cr4sh501:13
^MiNi_D^:p01:14
Cr4sh5ok01:14
Cr4sh5thanks01:14
^MiNi_D^be careful what u do though01:14
ballchalkwhat other repositories can i add to my sources.list?01:15
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aliasfredCr4sh5: qparted is likely much easier to use01:15
aliasfredbla01:15
aliasfred1sec late01:15
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ballchalkhello01:18
ballchalkmy sound wouldn't work01:18
ballchalkhow do i test it?01:18
linuxfreedoes anybody know can I play a movie .ogg on kaffeine? I just can listen the music, but I can't see the movie.01:18
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^MiNi_D^open control panel ballchalk and click "test sound" in the sound panel01:18
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^MiNi_D^check that your mixers are set to the right level 1st01:19
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newbie_1000klerfayt: cany you tell me what that command after installation was again? I didn't write it down.01:19
linuxfreeif I open the same archive on VLC I can listen and see the movie.01:19
klerfaytnewbie_1000: sudo nvidia-xconfig01:20
newbie_1000klerfayt: thanks01:20
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ballchalkhow do i get midi support?01:22
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ym4546ballchalk:i believe you can install a packet called timidity01:27
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ym4546http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#timidity01:28
red_so what is everyone's favorite supported mp3 player on here01:28
ym4546ballchalk: but be warned i have not tried this, so i can't help you beyond that01:28
ballchalkym4546: i'll leave it heh01:29
ballchalkthanks01:29
ym4546i tried01:29
ballchalkwhy doesn't amarok work?01:29
ballchalki'm using xine engine01:29
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ccc_ballchalk: what doesn't work?01:31
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mmorrisi'm about to the point of gettin rid of this stinkin os  I can't do nothin on here.01:32
mmorrisAll I want to do is install flash player...01:32
ballchalkccc_: i don't see w32codecs in adept what sources should i add in sources.list01:32
ballchalk?01:32
mmorrisI aint never felt so stupid in my life... I download something, but i dont even know how to install it01:32
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ym4546mmorris: there's bound to be a learning curve when you use a new OS01:33
ccc_ballchalk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed501:33
ballchalkthaks01:33
ym4546mmorris: run "sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree"01:33
ym4546then run "sudo update-flashplugin"01:33
^MiNi_D^tbh i found debian was much nicer, if only because apt worked properly01:34
^MiNi_D^:p01:34
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jujimufuI just untarred the linux-sources-2.6.15 file in /usr/src, and when I get on /usr/src/linux-sources-2.6.15, there is absolutely NO folder named "debian", which the tutorial on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KernelCustomBuild suggests.01:34
ccc_ballchalk: for mp3 you need libmad0 (in main) and libxine-extracodecs (in multiverse)01:35
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archangel_trying to get help at #easyubuntu is like watching grass grow01:36
archangel_anyone here know how it works?01:36
ballchalkccc_: w32codecs is installed and now i tried deborphan and it's an orphan01:36
archangel_I did it once and I cant remember what I did01:36
ballchalkhow do i use it?01:36
ballchalkccc_:  brb01:37
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zavenhoh god, Ive forgotten how to change names in IRC01:38
ccc_zavenh: /nick :)01:38
zavenhthanks01:38
zavenhjeez, i was doing n and name01:38
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Warbringer87there we go01:38
ballchalkccc_: i can't locate libxine-extracodecs in adept01:39
ballchalkam i missing a repository in sources.list01:39
ccc_ballchalk: then you need to enable multiverse01:39
ccc_yes01:39
nagyvccc_: sorry, I had to go, the lastfm:// protocol works fine in konqueror01:39
ballchalkhmm01:39
ballchalkccc_: brb01:39
Warbringer87is anyone familiar with this guide? http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.0601:40
Warbringer87and does anyone know if it works with ubuntu01:40
qadeshmp3 support : try sudo apt-get xine-extracodecs ... worked fine for me on dapper01:40
ballchalkccc_:  this is what i have in sources.................    deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse01:40
ym4546ballchalk: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic could help you generate an appropriate sources.list01:41
qadeshmp3 support you need to enable universe or multiverse repository01:41
ym4546ballchalk: so will ubuntuguide.org01:41
qadeshafter enablin universe or multiverse01:41
qadeshsudo apt-get update01:41
jujimufuguys01:41
qadeshsudo apt-get update-dist01:41
jujimufuscrew all this, get Easyubuntu01:41
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jujimufuwith easyubuntu, you get all the codecs together01:42
jujimufuwith a few clicks01:42
jujimufu!easyubuntu > MaxL01:42
qadeshand then sudo apt-get install xine-extracodecs01:42
ccc_nagyv: ok, i don't use firefox so i don't know. but from the looks of it, that howto oughtta work01:42
jujimufuMaxL: download EasyUbuntu, install it, and then run it and check everything you want to download, including the codecs. If you only want the codecs, uncheck everything else, and check the codecs.01:42
jujimufuwoops01:42
jujimufusorry, wrong channel01:42
archangel_after you install easyubuntu where do you find it again to run it?01:43
archangel_I used it once, but cant find it now01:44
ballchalkbrb01:44
jujimufuarchangel:  I don't remember. Check the site's faq01:44
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jujimufuanyway01:44
jujimufugtg01:44
jujimufubyes everyone :D01:44
tiagogbhello world01:45
archangel_thaks01:46
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pierrethhow can i setup my mouse to scroll?01:51
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Phantomhi.  i tried running adept recently, but got an error that another process is using the packaging system database.  i went through all my processes with ps, but there's nothing that looks like it is a packaging program.  i tried restarting the computer but still got the error.  any ideas?01:52
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the-ermMaybe someone in here has done this ... I have a windows partition.  I have not used it from day one.  It's taking up 80 gig of space.  I'd like to just format it, but I'm not sure if that'll mess up my MBR.  If it does ... how do I reinstall the MBR without reinstalling kubuntu?01:54
newbie_1000the-erm: GRUB should be what's in your MBR. NOT Windows bootloader/01:55
the-ermok01:55
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the-ermSo if I formatted that drive it wouldn't mess with the mbr.01:55
red_how do i add the sound icon back on my panel01:56
newbie_1000That's what I'm thinking.01:56
red_i dont remember how it left01:56
the-ermPhantom You're going to need to delete the lock file.01:56
newbie_1000To be sure, if you're paraniod, you can make a GRUB floppy.01:56
Phantomthe-erm: where is that?01:56
the-ermPhantom: you also might have to run a command that rebuilds the database ...01:57
the-ermLet me look.01:57
hivemindhey guys, I'm trying to install the Moodin engine for KDE but I can't because it depends on a library that has been updated.01:58
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hivemindI need Moodin for Dapper, but I can only find Hoary .debs.01:58
hivemindAny ideas?01:58
the-ermPhantom: for the life of me I can't find it now ...01:59
newbie_1000red_: I think the volume button is an applet.01:59
red_u know where i would find it01:59
newbie_1000maybe run kmix. that might get it going.02:00
the-ermred_: kmix, you can also run alsamixer from the console.02:00
newbie_1000it's no applet, sorry, it's kmix minimized to system tray.02:00
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red_i got ya02:01
red_awesome02:01
red_thanks02:01
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newbie_1000just save your session when you log off.02:01
pierrethhow can i remove a shortcut?02:01
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pierrethi mean a keyboard shorcut02:01
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newbie_1000pierreth: System Settings => Regional & Accessibility02:03
pierrethnewbie_1000: it crash02:03
newbie_1000pierreth: The System panel?02:04
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pierrethyes02:04
pierrethi had a shortcut to start an app...02:04
newbie_1000not good. sorry, I don't know what to do. :-(02:04
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pierreththen i removed the app but the shortcut is still there02:04
pierretha cannot use it again02:05
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the-ermkmenuedit?02:08
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the-ermOr you can right click the icon if it's in the kicker panel, and delete it.02:09
actinicwoohoo, off to a LAN in a few ... expecting over 4002:10
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D4rklyhow do i enable transparency on the menu ive done everything else ?02:11
D4rklyon the k menu02:11
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actinicD4rkly, system settings > appearance > style, then click 'efffect' tab, then 'menu effect = translucent' and tweak opacity below02:13
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actinicnothing like buring it :)02:14
actinicerr burying02:14
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juanhow do i xtract file to read only areas?02:15
D4rklythanx02:17
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pierreththe-erm: it is bug 9235802:17
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linuxmintis it possible to place a panel below the main panel (kicker) ?02:17
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pierrethlinuxmint: if the kicker is at the top02:18
linuxmintpierreth: I'd like both panels at the bottom, but the additional one on top of the main one.02:18
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pierrethlinuxmint: i think it is not possible02:19
linuxmintpierreth: is this a limitation of KDE ? I saw screenshots of kde 3.2 where it was done.. it looks like the possibility was removed..02:19
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Phantomthe-erm:  any luck on finding that lock file?  if not, do you know what i can google to try and find it myself?02:20
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D4rklyis there any way to make the universal sidebar trasparent aswell ? :)02:21
newbie_1000Hey, I've lost all graphics. Running in text mode.02:21
newbie_1000Tried to install nvidia driver for RIVA TNT202:21
excitatoryif one wanted to use the fglrx driver..is it best to use the one in the ubuntu repos, or the ati.com driver?  (the wiki only points out the hibernation feature of the ati.com driver..but are there more reasons to use this driver?)02:22
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newbie_1000Can anyone help me?02:24
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excitatorynewbie_1000: well.. be more specific.. did X suddenly crash.. or did you reboot and you only get a command line?  what exactly?02:26
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newbie_1000Well, I installed the driver, wrongly I guess, and when I restart X I get that text splash screen.02:27
newbie_1000Something flickers.02:27
newbie_1000That's it.02:27
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newbie_1000excitatory: so, yeah, reboot.02:28
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newbie_1000excitatory: so, what can I do?02:30
excitatoryhow did you install your driver?02:31
excitatorydid you follow an ubuntu wiki howto?02:31
newbie_1000yes, but must have gotten something wrong. Somewhat older card, had to use legacy package.02:32
excitatoryok.. well what card?02:32
newbie_1000Diamond Viper V770, which is really RIVA TNT202:33
excitatoryyea.. that is a little old02:33
excitatoryok02:33
excitatoryone sec02:33
excitatoryanyone else feel free to chime in02:34
excitatorymy dinner finished a moment ago02:34
newbie_1000lol02:34
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excitatorynewbie_1000: tnt is an nvidia chipset, correct?02:36
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excitatoryor was that ati?02:36
newbie_1000Yes, it's on the nvidia website.02:36
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solemnwarning-ltHow can I disable the system speaker from beeping in konsole?02:36
newbie_1000excitatory: And listed on the ubuntu website as in the legacy package.02:36
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excitatorysolemnwarning-lt: i think you just go Settings | Bell > none02:37
solemnwarning-ltok02:38
rodrigohola02:38
excitatorynewbie_1000: are you able to link me to the howto you followed?  or are you using irssi now from the broken box..02:38
excitatoryhola, rodrigo02:38
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newbie_1000I'm using irssi. But I found it on the CommonQuestions page, there's a link to nvidia/ati stuff there.02:39
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markrianI tried upgrading to the KDE 3.5.4 packages for dapper, but I experienced a lot of odd font behaviour02:39
markrianfor instance, fonts took up a load of space02:40
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excitatorymarkrian: yea..stay away from those.. they've been borking systems.. i STILL DON'T KNOW WHY that build hasn't been taken down..02:42
excitatorynewbie_1000: ok.. well.. i'm assuming dapper, correct?02:42
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newbie_1000exyes02:43
newbie_1000yes02:43
markrianI guess jriddell has more important things to do ;o02:43
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excitatorynewbie_1000: before your rebooted, did you test it?  ctrl-alt-backpace to restart X, then you should have saw a nvidia logo..02:44
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solemnwarning-ltThe synaptics touchpad driver treats taps on the pad as mouse clicks, how can I make pressure on the pad be ignored?02:45
excitatorynewbie_1000: and did you install the linux-restricted-modules package?02:45
newbie_1000excitatory: I tried to run the test in the System Settings => Display. That not work. I did restart X, but that did the same thing as a reboot,02:45
newbie_1000excitatory: I looked and it seemed to already be installed.02:46
excitatoryhrm..02:46
newbie_1000How do I check?02:46
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Reaper_manok, searching on forums obvviously isn't helping soooo02:47
excitatorynewbie_1000: it most likely wasn't installed, and this may be your problem.02:47
CheeseBurgerMansolemnwarning: In you xorg.conf, add the line 'Option "MaxTapTime" "0" ' (not including single quotes. do use the double quotes), under the section for your touchpad.02:47
Reaper_manwhat package(s) do I need to compile programs?02:47
newbie_1000aptitude install linux-restricted modules ?02:47
CheeseBurgerManReaper_man: Try installing build-essential02:47
excitatoryReaper_man: install the build-essential package02:47
excitatorynewbie_1000: no.. there's a certain package02:48
excitatorynewbie_1000: do this02:48
Reaper_manand that will get me the make commands and such?02:48
CheeseBurgerManReaper_man: Yep02:48
excitatorynewbie_1000: uname -r02:48
Reaper_manokie02:48
newbie_1000it told me the kernel version02:48
excitatorynewbie_1000: write that down, then do sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-INSERT KERNEL VERSION HERE02:49
CheeseBurgerMan!headers02:49
ubotuTo install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages02:49
newbie_1000ok02:49
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Reaper_manhmm, quite a few packages to grab... fun02:50
excitatoryReaper_man: depending on what you're compiling.. you'll probably have quite a few more02:51
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Reaper_manndistools02:51
Reaper_man;p02:51
Reaper_maner...02:51
Reaper_man*ndiswrapper02:51
CheeseBurgerManReaper_man: That's in the repos.02:51
CheeseBurgerMan!info ndiswrapper-utils02:51
ubotundiswrapper-utils: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 136 kB02:51
excitatorynewbie_1000: just so we know, do sudo aptitude reinstall nvidia-glx-legacy02:52
newbie_1000ok02:52
newbie_1000I tried that command, linux-restricted-modules-KERNEL. Didn't work. Did I get the kernel version number wrong? It had a couple of dashes.02:53
excitatorynewbie_1000: just do, sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)02:53
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excitatorynewbie_1000: that will grab the correct one.02:53
newbie_1000k02:53
excitatorynewbie_1000: and finally do this: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable02:54
noiesmonewbie_1000,  sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)02:54
newbie_1000which is better? apt-get or aptitude?02:54
excitatoryaptitude02:54
excitatorybut they both work02:54
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excitatorysame commands even02:54
excitatoryjust a few subtle differences.. but we can discuss that later.02:55
excitatorymake sure you run: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable02:55
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excitatorynewbie_1000: after you run the enable command, i think you just have to reboot..  if it doesn't work.. come back, and i have a couple other ideas.02:56
newbie_1000excitatory: I still can't download the module package. It can't find a package by that name.02:57
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excitatorynewbie_1000: what kernel version?02:58
newbie_10002.6.15-26-38602:58
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excitatorynewbie_1000: i'm thinking you don't have the universe repository enabled03:00
excitatorynewbie_1000: did the nvidia drivers even install?03:00
noiesmonewbie_1000, have you got universe and multiverse in your sources.list and done an sudo apt-get update03:00
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newbie_1000yes03:00
newbie_1000I don't know about the actual drivers03:01
excitatorynewbie_1000: odd.. i can find them just fine.   linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386 - Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules on 38603:01
excitatorynewbie_1000: well, did the nvidia-glx-legacy package appear to install?03:01
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newbie_1000on minute...03:01
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excitatorynewbie_1000: well, i was going to suggest this, but i wasn't certain if it would work.. but you can probably just install this: linux-restricted-modules-38603:03
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dan2hi there03:03
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dan2how do I get the screen resolution software to work that's integrated into kcontrol03:04
dan2it won't let me change it from 1024x76803:04
newbie_1000maybe i'm mispelled something03:04
newbie_1000can you tell me the package name again?03:04
excitatorynewbie_1000: install nvidia-glx-legacy and linux-restricted-modules-38603:04
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excitatoryfsck you dan2, i was just about to help you..03:05
noiesmodan2, the options in kcontrol are determined by how xorg.conf is set up and your video drivers it also looks at the information on your monitors refresh rates these may need to be configured you can run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set monitor thru advance might help you03:06
Jucatolol03:06
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Jucatofsck you... ^_^03:06
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newbie_1000ok, ran nvidia-glx-config enable. Rebooting now. cya later.03:06
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Jucatodan2 is gone...03:07
noiesmoJucato, yeh just noticed that hah :)03:07
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newbie_1000that didn't work. still no X.03:11
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excitatorynoiesmo: the reason i said that is because i was typing, and he left as i was typing.. a full 2 minutes after he asked the question..so yea, you just wrote that for nothing..03:12
newbie_1000talking about me?03:12
noiesmoexcitatory, np :)03:12
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noiesmonewbie_1000, what nvidia card have you got excatly03:12
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newbie_1000RIVA TNT203:13
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Healotriva03:14
Healotit has stock driver03:14
newbie_1000I know it's in the nvidia -legacy package though.03:15
excitatorynewbie_1000: did you do this before you rebooted? sudo nvidia-glx-config enable03:15
newbie_1000yes03:15
excitatoryhrm.03:15
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newbie_1000might it be in my x.conf file?03:15
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newbie_1000the problem?03:16
noiesmonewbie_1000, paste your xorg.conf in pastebin03:16
excitatorynewbie_1000: there's something wrong.. what does your uname -r say again?03:16
newbie_10002.6.15-26-38603:16
excitatorynoiesmo: dude, he doesn't have X03:17
excitatoryok.. that's it03:17
excitatorynewbie_1000: where did you get that revision..03:17
newbie_1000Is there a text browser that I can use the paste-bin with?03:17
CheezBurgerMan_newbie_1000: links, lynx, w3m are all text-based browsers.03:17
newbie_1000Just normal aptitude dist-upgrade.03:17
excitatoryso far only 2.6.15-23-386 is out.. i don't understand how you have the 2603:18
newbie_1000hmm. let me look at it again.03:18
Jucatoexcitatory, the latest kernel is 2.6.15-2603:18
newbie_1000that's what it says.03:18
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excitatoryJucato: odd..in dapper?03:18
Jucatoexcitatory: yes03:18
Jucatoif you upgrade regularly and have dapper-security enabled03:19
excitatoryJucato: why don't i have that option?03:19
excitatoryi upgraded a few hours ago03:19
CheezBurgerMan_newbie_1000: You may need to disable your 3d accleration to get it working. You can then at least use a GUI, if not using everything to it's full possibility.03:19
Jucatoexcitatory: in your sources.list?03:19
excitatoryJucato: yes03:19
Jucatoexcitatory: it's dapper-security main, then add restricted for the restricted modules03:20
newbie_1000CheezBurgerMan_: how?03:20
CheezBurgerMan_newbie_1000: You do have a text browser, right? It'll be easiest if I pastebin the right area.03:20
newbie_1000That's how I was running before.03:20
newbie_1000um, may need to install links, but that should take seconds.03:21
excitatoryJucato: still nothing03:21
Jucatoexcitatory: what do you mean by "still nothing"?03:21
excitatoryJucato: i've had dapper-updates set up for a long time now.. since install.. i updated, tried upgrading, even dist-upgrading.. no new kernel version03:21
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Jucatoexcitatory: not dapper-updates, dapper-security. they are different03:22
excitatoryah.03:22
newbie_1000CheezBurgerMan_: how's that coming?03:22
CheezBurgerMan_newbie_1000: Pastebin is very slow. :\03:22
CheezBurgerMan_newbie_1000: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/77162103:23
CheezBurgerMan_Inside that part of your xorg.conf, add Option "noaccel"03:23
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excitatoryJucato: ha... interesting.. i have quite a few updates.03:24
Jucatoexcitatory: probably lots :-D03:25
excitatorythat's odd that i wasn't aware of that..03:25
Jucatothe new firfox is also there03:25
excitatoryreally odd03:25
newbie_1000CheezBurgerMan_: will that return my system to the un-configured setting? Before I installed the driver I had 2D gui.03:25
Jucatoexcitatory: are you using linux-restricted-modules?03:25
excitatorymeh..konq all the way.. maybe swiftfox..especially since they have a ubuntu repo03:25
excitatoryJucato: yes03:25
qadeshHello all03:25
Jucatoexcitatory: then you must add "restricted" to the "dapper-security main" line03:26
newbie_1000I like konq but it not work with gmail chat.03:26
qadeshhow to play .mov files (quicktime) on kubuntu dapper03:26
CheezBurgerMan_newbie_1000: I'm not sure what you've done, so I can't say for sure, but it should give you your GUI back.03:26
Healothi kubuntuans03:26
Jucatootherwise, your linux-restricted-modules won't get updated03:26
excitatoryJucato: yea.. already taken care of. :D03:26
newbie_1000qadesh: no way I know of besides quicktime in WINE.03:26
qadeshok thanks03:26
excitatorynewbie_1000: shh.. it's easy03:26
excitatorydon't need wine03:26
excitatoryqadesh: wait03:27
qadeshI'm waiting03:27
newbie_1000CheezBurgerMan_: links still not loading. grr...03:27
excitatoryqadesh: you'll need some extra repos, but you can easily play quicktime03:27
Healotyou need 12 cans of beer, a package, and some knowledge on installing package03:27
excitatoryand some cannabis..ah yes..03:27
qadeshsend it ... I'm waiting03:27
Jucatolol03:27
qadeshall *verse are enabled03:27
Healot!find quicktime03:28
ubotuFound: libquicktime-dev, libquicktime0, quicktime-utils, quicktime-x11utils03:28
CheezBurgerMan_newbie_1000: yeah, pastebin is very slow.03:28
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Healoti think they are in multiverse section of dapper repos03:28
newbie_1000CheezBurgerMan_: I've never used this pastebin. There's a different one. pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org or something like that.03:28
qadeshnope03:28
newbie_1000!paste03:29
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:29
newbie_1000yeah, that's it.03:29
excitatoryqadesh: you should really just plow through here and install what you need.. kaffeine plays quicktime perfectly for me.   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats03:29
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CheezBurgerMan_newbie_1000: Wow, that's faster. here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2104803:30
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excitatoryqadesh: it's in the w32codecs package03:31
excitatoryqadesh: you'll need to enable this repo..  add this to /etc/apt/sources.list  --> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main03:31
qadeshok ... let's do that03:32
excitatoryqadesh: then do: gpg --keyserver hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 && gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -03:32
excitatoryapt-get update03:32
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excitatorythen install w32codecs03:32
shadowwwi this is my firast attemp installing kubuntu on a sata raid... do i need to download aditional drivers before launching an installation03:33
newbie_1000CheezBurgerMan_: what now? I've forgotten your instructions, now that the pastebin finally loaded.03:34
excitatoryqadesh: you'll also want to enable the universe and multiverse repos, and install libxine-extracodecs, libarts1-mpeglib, libarts1-xine, libakode2-mpeg, and libk3b2-mp303:34
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CheezBurgerMan_newbie_1000: add Option "noaccel" between Section and End Section03:34
newbie_1000CheezeBurgerMan_: what file?03:35
qadeshso w32codecs are sufficient to read .mov ?03:35
CheezBurgerMan_newbie_1000: /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:35
newbie_1000k03:36
qadeshlibxine-extracodecs are already installed03:36
excitatoryqadesh: yes.. but really read the restricted formats link i sent you.03:36
qadeshthanks I'm reading03:36
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excitatoryqadesh: w32codecs covers: wmp9, real8/9, quicktime, morgan, ms mpeg-4, intel 263, indeo video, divx, cinepak, and ati vcr-203:37
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excitatoryqadesh: and quite a few more03:38
newbie_1000CheezBurgerMan_ : so I insert "Option noaccel" ? or just "noaccell" ?03:38
CheezBurgerMan_Options "noaccel"03:38
newbie_1000k03:38
CheezBurgerMan_Err, wait03:38
CheezBurgerMan_Option "noaccel"03:39
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newbie_1000so, now I reboot and I should get 2D graphics back?03:40
shadowww...03:40
Jucatono need to reboot, right?03:40
newbie_1000startx03:40
Jucatojust restart X03:40
newbie_1000??03:40
newbie_1000ok, we'll see. ...03:40
Jucatoctrl+alt+backspace will (abruptly) restart X03:41
Jucatodon't forget to save anything that needs saving03:41
CheezBurgerMan_newbie_1000: Yeah, restart  X (if it's running)03:41
newbie_1000have no X running.03:41
Jucatocool03:41
newbie_1000And can't log in properly. I'll just reboot and see.03:41
CheezBurgerMan_newbie_1000: Just type 'startx'03:41
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dan2hi guys03:42
dan2I'm having major issues getting my display resolution correct03:42
dan2I think I'm having issues between my laptop monitor and my real monitor attached03:42
shadowwwi this is my firast attemp installing kubuntu on a sata raid... do i need to download aditional drivers before launching an installation03:43
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JucatoCheezBurgerMan_: what was his problem again?03:44
CheezBurgerMan_Jucato: X wouldn't start.03:44
Jucatooh... why? what error messages did he have?03:44
CheezBurgerMan_[21:06]  <noiesmo> dan2, the options in kcontrol are determined by how xorg.conf is set up and your video drivers it also looks at the information on your monitors refresh rates these may need to be configured you can run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set monitor thru advance might help you03:44
dan2CheezBurgerMan_: I did that, in fact, I got the vert and horizontal sync from the manufacuturer, it's not working03:45
dan2xorg.conf is setup to work with two resolutions 1280x1024 and 1024x76803:45
CheezBurgerMan_Ah. I'm not really sure what to do, I just copied it from earlier. ;)03:45
dan2it won't let me get into 128003:45
JucatoIsn't the new "Display" module in System Settings supposed to make it easier to set things like that?03:45
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dan2this issue occured after I upgraded from breezy03:46
dan2(a few hours ago)03:46
newbie_1000I STILL don't have X!03:46
Jucatohmm... newbie_1000, when did this start happening?03:46
newbie_1000How can I get back to the default settings.03:46
newbie_1000When I tried installing nvidia driver for my video card.03:47
dan2I'll be back03:47
CheezBurgerMan_newbie_1000: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'03:47
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Jucatooh? hmm... I think the solution is simpler than it seems03:47
newbie_1000will that set it to install default? what about removing the drivers?03:47
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qadeshSeen this :> http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation&Itemid=3803:47
Jucatonewbie_1000: would you be so kind as to check whether "restricted" is enabled/added in the "dapper-security  main" line?03:48
newbie_1000ok03:48
Jucatonewbie_1000: it should look something like "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted"03:48
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Jucatoclaydoh: this is the longest time I've seen you online :-D03:49
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newbie_1000no, I don't think so.03:50
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Jucatoaha! that's the problem :-D03:50
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Jucatonvidia needs linux-restricted-modules. but your linux-restricted-modules version probably don't match your kernel version.03:50
newbie_1000ok03:51
newbie_1000that's why it wouldn't download.03:51
Jucatofor some odd reason, "restricted" isn't added by default to the dapper-security line. add it, then sudo apt-get update then upgrade03:51
Jucatothen double check if your linux-restricted-modules and linux-image match03:52
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Jucatoif uname -r is "2.6.15-26-xxx", the linux-restricted-module should also be "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-xxx"03:52
newbie_1000k, hold your horses. no X, things go slow.03:52
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Jucatoehehe. sorry...03:52
newbie_1000how do I tell what the linux-restricted module is?03:53
Jucatodpkg -l | grep linux-restricted-modules03:53
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Jucatosee which one is installed03:53
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Jucatoquestion: does anyone know how to make Konqueror follow the website's font/style/size settings, rather than the system's?03:56
claydohJucato: lol yeah, the phone has not rung, as thee wife is out of town :)03:56
Jucatolol! eheheh!03:56
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Jucatonow you can enjoy (semi-)uninterrupted internet connection :-D03:57
claydohbut ill have dsl in a week or 2 w00t!03:57
Jucatokool!03:57
Jucatowe'll probably seeing you here a lot then :-D03:57
DaSkreechshadowww: I'd guess you have a Live CD?03:57
claydohlol I usually lurk here, till someone sez my name :)03:58
Jucato @_@03:58
JucatoI will no longer  call "the name that must not be mentioned" :-D03:58
claydohdon't worry about that, Jucato03:58
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claydohit means someone knows me :)03:59
Jucatooooh03:59
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Jucatonewbie_1000: how's it going?03:59
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newbie_1000my linux-restricted-modules is not correct. how do I fix that? aptitude uninstall linux-restricted-modules-386 is what I'm guessing.03:59
newbie_1000my linux-restricted-modules is not correct. how do I fix that? aptitude uninstall linux-restricted-modules-386 is what I'm guessing.03:59
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newbie_1000oops04:00
Jucatoyo draik! nice to see you again04:00
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draikLOL04:00
dan2alright this is irritating04:00
draikJucato, I was just about to look for you04:00
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Jucatonewbie_1000: well, you have to install the new linux-restricted-modules first. in your sources.list, add "restricted" to the "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main" line04:01
newbie_1000Jucato: what do I do now? I've enabled dapper-security restricted.04:01
Jucatonewbie_1000: sudo aptitude update04:01
newbie_1000should I uninstall the old one?04:01
Jucatonewbie_1000: if you still have the older 2.6.15-23 kernel around, you can keep it (for backup)04:01
newbie_1000na, I don't04:02
Jucatothen you could probably remove it now.04:02
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Jucatoor04:02
newbie_1000I installed linux-restricted-modules-386 at someone else's suggestion earlier. Should I uninstall it now?04:02
Jucatofirst do "sudo aptitude update" the "sudo aptitude upgrade"04:02
newbie_1000ok04:03
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Hawkwindnewbie_1000: It's best to keep atleast 2 kernels installed.  That way if one messes up, you always have a second one to boot to and try and fix things04:04
newbie_1000how do I go about doing that?04:04
Healotbuy a kernel :)04:05
newbie_1000modules don't do anything to the kernel itself anyways.04:05
Hawkwindnewbie_1000: Don't uninstall them04:05
Jucatoehehe one issue at a time04:05
Jucato^_^04:05
newbie_1000I just distro-upgraded over the old one last week.04:05
newbie_1000* dist-upgrade04:06
Hawkwindnewbie_1000: Then it installed the new one *next* to the old one. It didn't overwrite it04:06
newbie_1000I can buy a kernel of corn, but not a linux kernel I don't think.04:06
newbie_1000ok. would it be in the /boot directory or something?04:06
Jucatonewbie_1000: better focus first on getting X running...one thing at a time :-D04:07
newbie_1000just waiting for things to download right now.04:07
Healotthe kernel image will be there, the modules will be somewher in /lib/04:07
Jucatonewbie_1000: when you boot up, do you get different options for Ubuntu like kernel 2.6.15-23 then another one for kernel 2.6.15-26?04:08
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newbie_1000no menu, just straight install. I think something to do with /boot/grub/menu.lst04:08
Jucatoprobably...04:08
newbie_1000i said install, I meant boot04:09
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Jucatonewbie_1000: what does "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" output? does it show a 2.6.15-23 and a 2.6.15-26?04:09
newbie_1000let me see...04:10
newbie_10002.6.15-23-386 and 2.6.15-26-386 are installed. 26 is running.04:11
Jucatooh so the older kernel is still there04:11
Jucatodon't uninstall the older linux-restricted-modules04:11
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newbie_1000I won't.04:12
newbie_1000I see no reason to actually use the older kernel unless I somehow fudge the new one.04:12
Jucatonewbie_1000: well, it's always good to have backups04:12
newbie_1000that's what I said I think.04:13
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Jucato^_^04:13
JucatoI just confirmed it04:13
DaSkreechDShepherd: -_o04:13
DaSkreechI have my eye on you04:13
newbie_1000But seeing as I don't think I'm going to be compiling any custom kernels anytime soon, I think I'm good.04:13
DShepherdDaSkreech: good cause your going to need the other to see04:13
newbie_1000hi DaSkreech.04:14
DaSkreechnewbie_1000: Hallo04:14
mighty-dhi, i'm having some problems with my sane scanner, i have a canon pixma mp170, i can get xsane to work only as root, i've tried to chmod to /proc/bus/usb/007/002 -> my scanner with no results04:14
Jucatoquestion: does anyone know how to make Konqueror follow the website's font/style/size settings, rather than the system's?04:14
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newbie_1000I've upgraded, so now I run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" ?04:15
Jucatonewbie_1000: uhuh04:16
newbie_1000ok. here we go!04:16
Jucatogood luck!04:16
newbie_1000gonna test it. cya later.04:17
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Bearcat!seen foot04:24
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ubotuDaSkreech is on IRC right now!04:25
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Jucatolol04:25
otaku-sanYo!  Ok I've been having problems when I pulled of a n00b move and Entered kwin --replace into konsole!!!  Everytime I start Kubuntu up my whole screen is in like 8 bit mode....I just restart X and all is good...04:25
DaSkreechSilly  bot :)04:25
Jucatonewbie_1000: how did it go?04:25
newbie_1000I've got X!04:25
newbie_1000And that nvidia screen04:25
Jucatokool!04:25
otaku-sanHelpest....does anyone know how to be back X in to submission?04:26
otaku-santhat is *beat...not be04:26
newbie_1000Don't know how well the actuall 3D acceleration will work. It was a good card, in it's day.04:26
newbie_1000oh well04:26
newbie_1000thanks all of you for all the help.04:26
otaku-sannewbie_1000: Coolness...just don't enter kwin --replace...not good04:26
Jucatonewbie_1000: try running "glxgears" to see if 3D acceleration is working fine04:27
Jucatolol04:27
newbie_1000seems allright to me. some of the OpenGL screensavers had an abysmal framerate.04:27
Jucatowell now they should work fine04:28
otaku-sanok how is ubotu?  Is it a bot or something...cause it seems to repeat things far to much...] 04:28
otaku-sanwho*04:28
newbie_1000no, I was just testing them now. they still were slow. Is there a way to tune OpenGL?04:28
Jucatoyeah it's a bot04:28
Jucatooh...04:28
Jucatohm...04:28
newbie_1000gyhckvul''''04:28
newbie_1000'darn kid brother04:28
otaku-sanJucato: what does this bot do?04:29
ash211!ubotu04:29
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage04:29
Jucatolol04:29
otaku-san.....creepy04:29
Jucatoit's usually useful for displaying info, links to wikis, help pages, etc.04:29
otaku-sansounds like a new toy to misuse04:29
Jucato @_@04:30
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newbie_1000ok, cya all. dinner time after all of that configuring.04:30
Snowmadicgreetings again.04:30
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phiberglazhello, what app was used to make the kubuntu.com website?04:59
stray77im guessin but it might be e10705:00
phiberglaze107?05:01
HawkwindYes, e10705:01
HawkwindIt's a full CMS05:01
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phiberglazah ok :)05:01
phiberglazthanks05:01
otaku-sanHawkwind: where can I get e107?05:02
stray77sourceforge05:02
HawkwindFrom their website, e107.org05:02
stray77there too05:02
otaku-sanhehe thanks guys05:02
stray77im just happy i guess right05:02
Jucatoehehe05:03
jacobbasic question05:03
jacobis adept set up got get packages from a CD05:03
jacob?05:03
jacobby default05:03
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Jucatojacob: if you installed without an internet connection, I think yes. But if you installed using the Desktop (Live) CD, that's practically useless...05:04
jacobi did, but isn't build-essential on the CD?05:04
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Jucatojacob: the Desktop CD cannot be used as a repository. only the Alternate Install CD can do that05:05
jacob:/05:05
jacobhow would I install build-essential then?05:06
HawkwindSetup the right repos05:06
Jucatojacob: from the repositories05:06
Hawkwind!repos > jacob05:06
jacobwithout an internet connection?05:06
Jucatoerr...05:06
HawkwindGet an internet connection05:06
jacob>_>05:06
HawkwindSurely you have one since you're here and you downloaded the CD previously05:07
mighty-dlol05:07
larson9999got this newer ati tv tuner here.  anyone know how i can install it?  doesn't look like there is a driver on the ati site05:07
jacobi do have an internet connection, but i can't use it since my wireless card isn't supported05:07
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HawkwindWhat wireless card ?05:07
jacobi wanted to install ndiswrapper so i could use my card's drivers05:07
jacobit's a broadcom laptop card05:08
jacobit's on ndiswrapper's supported list05:08
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Hawkwindjacob: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18517405:08
Hawkwindjacob: Follow that.  It's for Broadcomm stuff and should get your card working05:08
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jacobHawkwind: that guide assumes that i have wired internet access on the machine i want to set up, but I don't05:10
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Hawkwindjacob: Without taking a few seconds to setup a wired connection, you're pretty much out of luck.  Surely you can set it up real quick05:12
HawkwindI think if you wanted internet access bad enough you would anyways05:12
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jacobsetting up a wired connection would be pretty inconvenient, i think05:14
jacobi could do it05:14
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Hawkwindjacob: Why would it ?05:15
Hawkwindjacob: If you want to get a wireless connection, you almost have to have a wired connection first at some point05:15
Dr_Willissort of hard to set the wireless router settings otherwise. :P05:16
Dr_Willisbut there is that new thingi saw out. :) hit a button and some how they auto-talk (but i doubt if that works under linux right)05:16
jacobwell, i figured that with the ndiswrapper files and driver files already there, it would just be easier to get build-essential so i could do the make install for ndiswrapper05:16
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jacob...right? >_>05:17
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Dr_Willis:)05:17
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Ed_Lthere wouldn't be an edgy iso available would there (I realise it's developmental, no support etc, but it's a dedicated testing machine :))05:35
Dr_Willischeck #ubuntu+105:37
Ed_Lthanks05:37
Jucatoactually there is05:38
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aquablujust want to run limewire on kubuntu, but it doesnt have java,i tried fetching java packages from adept ,but trying to install limewire ,its saying java needs upgrading?05:44
aquabluis there an easy way on kubuntu to get java05:45
CornelliusTry EasyUbuntu05:45
Hawkwind!java > aquablu05:45
Dr_Willis!java05:46
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository05:46
aquabluim on a laptop and only kubuntu runs on it05:46
Dr_Willisplus you may have to run that command to select the sun java, not the  open-sourced GCC variant.05:46
Dr_WillisPlus you may want to check into that limewire alternative05:46
Dr_Willis!limewire05:46
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.05:46
Dr_Willis!FrostWire05:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about FrostWire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:46
Dr_Willissilly defs. :P lol05:46
Hawkwind!frostwire05:47
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire05:47
Dr_Willissilly case senetive defs. :P lol05:47
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Ed_Lheh05:48
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deinisnt apollon a good replacement for limeywire?06:12
Dr_Willisi tend to use frostwire these days06:12
Dr_Willisnot tried apollon06:12
deinhmm ill try frostwire and say if it's better06:13
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CornelliusApollon is a frontend for giFT06:14
deingift also runs other networks other than openft06:15
deini think it grabs gnutella and can do fasttrack too06:15
deinnot that i use the fasttrack network anymore06:16
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larson9999phoey, i can't find a driver06:37
ironfroggydoes anyone know if there are .deb's available for ogre3d 1.2?06:37
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digivorehello06:44
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Dr_Willishi06:46
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jacob_Hawkwind: Thanks for that link, it worked perfectly06:47
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SHan_i'm having some serious click lag in UT06:49
digivoreHi, i have a question.. i just installed ubuntu.   and i'm trying to grasp how to install other programs, such as firefox...06:52
Admiral_Chicagodigivore, sudo apt-get install <package>06:53
digivorei've managed to download it and un-tar it... but after that... no idea06:53
Admiral_Chicagofrom the command line06:53
Admiral_Chicagoor use adept06:53
Admiral_Chicagoopen up a terminal, a konsole whatever06:53
Admiral_Chicagoand type "sudo apt-get install firefox"06:53
Admiral_Chicagothats all you need, you don't need to compile from source or anything06:54
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digivoreahh ok cool,  this is installing from ubuntu server?06:55
Admiral_Chicagoubuntu server?06:55
Admiral_Chicagoyea06:55
Admiral_Chicagoit installs it from a repositories06:55
digivorewhere are those?06:55
Admiral_Chicagothose are basically a grouping of packages available for install06:56
digivorehow do i know what else is in the repositories? and are they always the latest versions?06:56
Admiral_Chicagodigivore, check synaptic or adept06:56
Admiral_Chicagoand no, its usually the latest stable version that has been uploaded to the repo06:56
farousdigivore: you can alwasy also check packages.ubuntu.com06:56
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digivoresynaptic and adept.   websites?06:58
Admiral_Chicagocheck your menu, they are programs.06:58
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jacob_if he just installed kubuntu he probably doesn't have synaptec, does he?06:59
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digivoreok,   so i did that 'sudo apt-get install firefox'   now how do i find the 'executable?'06:59
jacob_type 'firefox' into a terminal07:00
jacob_or check your menu07:00
jacob_under internet07:00
Admiral_Chicago!info firefox07:00
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.5-0ubuntu6.06.1 (dapper), package size 7730 kB, installed size 22912 kB07:00
Admiral_Chicagonolte, you don't undestand07:00
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farousdigivore: kappfinder for automatic inclusion in kde menu :)07:00
Admiral_Chicagothat command will find firefox online, download it, and install it07:00
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digivoreahh yah and there it is!07:01
Admiral_Chicagodigivore, for your future information apt-get install <package> works for a lot of stuff07:02
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Admiral_Chicagolike sudo apt-get install amarok will install a media player07:02
Admiral_Chicagoetc07:02
Admiral_Chicagodigivore, just have your repos enabled07:02
Admiral_Chicago!repo07:02
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource07:02
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digivorewow, i'd like to eventually try it with enlightenment.  but i just got ubuntu running and really want to learn how it all works.07:03
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Admiral_Chicagodigivore, i like kde and kubuntu07:03
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digivoreright kubuntu...   with the KDE07:04
waggle7622frackwhy would my other systems see my kubuntu box, but it cant see them in smb://mynetwork/ even though I can ping them?07:05
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digivoreahhh..very new to this...  KDE, X, Enltnmnt...    what can they do differently?  why would one prefer one over another?07:05
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Admiral_Chicagodigivore, depends on your layout pref07:09
Admiral_Chicagounline windows.07:09
Admiral_Chicagowaggle7622frack, you can ping them if they are online07:09
Admiral_Chicagobut that doesn't mean they exactly connect through your computer07:10
Admiral_Chicagoi dunno, don't ask me I suck at network07:10
waggle7622frackOk thanks for trying. Is there a good channel for networking that you know of?07:12
waggle7622frackor samba?07:12
digivorethanks fo rhelp07:13
digivorebye07:13
Admiral_Chicagowaggle7622frack, try #samba07:14
waggle7622frackthanks07:14
Admiral_Chicagoi used it once, but I didn't get the network working...07:14
Admiral_Chicagobecause I suck at networking07:14
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ballchalkhellloooo07:39
ballchalkwhere can i back up my Xserver configs???07:39
ballchalklike video adapter settings and everything?07:39
ballchalki had to reinstall kubuntu because i didn't know how to reconfigure07:39
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noiesmoballchalk, you x config files are in /etc/X1107:41
noiesmoxorg.conf is the main file07:41
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ballchalknolte: thanks07:44
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SHan_i can boot into linux but i cant boot into windows :/07:48
SHan_gives a stop error and reboots07:49
SHan_think its grub thats messing up07:49
Phirax_On_LaptopSHan_: is windows grub linux on the same drive?07:49
SHan_yup07:50
ballchalkdoes anyone know how i can increase the mouse sensitivity?07:51
ballchalkin xwindows i think not kde07:52
ballchalkon uhuntu that is07:52
SHan_think you can help me Phirax_On_Laptop ?07:52
Phirax_On_LaptopSHan_: how are your partitions set? ie drive size, part0 size type etc07:52
SHan_i dont have the XP bootable.. but i do have the 2k bootable :/07:52
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SHan_Phirax_On_Laptop, hold on07:53
SHan_Phirax_On_Laptop, 4 partitions of 40 gb each07:53
SHan_2 to windows (ntfs) and 2 to linux (/ and /home)07:54
Phirax_On_LaptopSHan_: and the order of them?07:54
SHan_Phirax_On_Laptop, hda1=/, hda2=NTFS, hda3=FAT,hda4,hda5 =/home07:55
Phirax_On_Laptophda4 is the swap?07:56
SHan_no07:56
SHan_6,7,8 are swap07:56
SHan_hda4 is a logical freespace07:56
Phirax_On_Laptopoh ok07:56
SHan_0.01 MBlol07:56
Phirax_On_Laptopand you can boot linux fine?07:57
SHan_yeah07:57
SHan_but windows reboots half way through the boot07:57
Phirax_On_Laptopi assume windows is on hda2?07:57
SHan_i had manually added the windows boot option in grub since I had installed windows over linux07:57
SHan_Phirax_On_Laptop, yeah07:57
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SHan_so i revocered linux from a live cd and then re configured grub07:58
Phirax_On_Laptopok so basically linux boots fine, but windows only half loads (as in you get the loading screen with the moving bar) then reboots?07:58
SHan_yup07:59
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Phirax_On_Laptopthat doesn't sound like a grub issue07:59
SHan_then gives me a blue screen of death (stop error) for half a second and then reboots07:59
Phirax_On_Laptophave you changed any hardware?07:59
SHan_not that i can recollect07:59
SHan_no07:59
Phirax_On_Laptopor moves drives or anything07:59
SHan_i had tried to detect a couple of drives that were not showing up at the office07:59
Phirax_On_Laptopdid you change any of the partitions at all?08:00
SHan_but thats about it08:00
SHan_nope08:00
SHan_no changes in partition08:00
SHan_i am doubting a boot sector virus08:00
SHan_:/08:00
Phirax_On_Laptopi wouldn't think so08:00
Phirax_On_Laptopsince it actually begins to boot08:00
SHan_hmm08:00
SHan_but a virus nonetheless?08:00
SHan_or is it simply a corrupt MBR?08:00
Phirax_On_Laptopusually windows craps itself like that when there is a driver issue or hardware change08:01
SHan_hmm08:01
Phirax_On_Laptophave you tried pressing f8 and running last know good configuration?08:01
SHan_i tried safe mode08:01
SHan_same results08:01
SHan_but i didnt try last known08:01
SHan_should I08:01
SHan_?08:01
Phirax_On_Laptopi would try last know good config08:02
SHan_kk08:02
SHan_brb then08:02
Phirax_On_Laptopcos safemode might be loading a bad drivers08:02
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TheCoffeMakerHI!08:05
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Shan_:/08:06
Shan_nope08:06
Shan_Phirax_On_Laptop, same result08:06
Shan_its weird08:06
Shan_i'm dead sure its a virus08:06
Shan_cause i didnt change a thing!08:06
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Phirax_On_Laptopit could be08:07
Shan_i tried scanning with clam08:07
Shan_got bored and quit midway lol08:07
Phirax_On_Laptopcan you see what the bsod error is?08:07
TheCoffeMakersomebody could install oracle 10g on AMD64?08:07
Shan_nah.. it flashes for less than a milisecond at times and mostly i see nothing08:07
Shan_just a dark screen08:07
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Phirax_On_Laptopand no recovery cd?08:08
Shan_:(08:09
TheCoffeMakersorry ... Shan_ what's the problem?08:09
Shan_i cant boot ito windows.. but i can get into linux just fine08:09
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Shan_windows gives a stop error half way thru and reboots08:09
Shan_even in safe mode or lat known config etc etc etc08:10
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Shan_just simply reboots half way thru08:10
Shan_and yeah Phirax_On_Laptop no cd08:10
Phirax_On_Laptophmm did you say you had a win2k cd?08:10
Shan_yeah08:11
Shan_i have a bootable win2k08:11
TheCoffeMakermmm typical ... congratulations :D welcome to the free software world08:11
Shan_somewhere lol08:11
Shan_lol TheCoffeMaker08:11
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ballchalkdoes anyone know how to run an app in wine that requires a cd? it keeps asking me for cd when the cd is already in08:11
Phirax_On_Laptophave you tried using recovery console?08:12
Phirax_On_Laptopusing you win2k cd08:12
Shan_no08:12
Shan_but why would it work ofr an XP install?08:12
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TheCoffeMakermmm i thik that this will not work08:12
Phirax_On_Laptopwell usually all it does is let you boot, gives you a few dos utils, and lets you login to your windows drive08:13
Shan_hmm08:13
Shan_worth a shot08:13
Shan_brb08:13
Phirax_On_Laptopi wouldn't think it would be much different, i'm pretty sure it will work08:13
TheCoffeMakerbut ... Are you needing copy the files from ntfs disk itsn't?08:14
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Phirax_On_Laptopyou may need to edit your registry file, though that is a bitch in the win cmd prompt08:15
ballchalkwould i see winehq in adept?08:15
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springhi, hi VMware ESX Server 1.5.2 Patch 5 is incompatible for VMWare server 1.0, right???08:16
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TheCoffeMakerhave you tried to download avg free for linux and scan the windows partition?08:18
Phirax_On_Laptop"have you tried to download avg free for linux and scan the windows partition?" yeah good idea08:19
TheCoffeMaker;)08:20
TheCoffeMakerwhere r u from Phirax ?08:21
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Phirax_On_LaptopMelbourn australia08:21
Shan_i think i know what the problem is08:21
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Shan_will it do that if there is no space on C?08:21
Phirax_On_Laptop*err melbourne, lol can't even type my own cities name :O08:22
Phirax_On_LaptopShan_: quite possibly08:22
Shan_hm08:22
Jucatoanyone here knows of a program that can play FLV (Flash Video) or something to convert FLV to some other format?08:22
Shan_it told me that a few days back08:22
Shan_and i uninstalled some unwanted stuff thats all08:22
Jucatoof course, a program in Linux/Kubuntu08:22
TheCoffeMakermmm i dont think ... but ... delete some file and try08:22
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Phirax_On_LaptopShan_: use the cmd prompt on the recovery cd to chek how much space you have, usually you need 500mb free08:23
Shan_i think i had about 70008:23
TheCoffeMakerJucato wich architecture?08:23
Jucato38608:23
Shan_how do i find the size of a dir?08:24
TheCoffeMakerdownload flash from universe repositories08:24
Jucatoit seems like I can play the FLV in Kaffeine, but without sound08:24
TheCoffeMakermmm so ... i dont know ... i hate flash at all cost08:25
JucatoTheCoffeMaker: heheh! that's why I'm looking for a converter. So I won't have to look at it in YouTube more than once :-D08:25
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JucatoThat's why I like Google Video better, coz I can download the video in AVI format...08:26
TheCoffeMakerhahah ... use Google Videos08:26
red__anyone know if the tv out (svideo) works on here with the actual ati drivers installed (which I already have installed)08:26
Jucatounfortunately, there were some videos that don't have a Google Video copy... darn...08:26
TheCoffeMaker:S so ... i cant help ... Im trying to get the flash player for amd64 but macromedia don't compile it for thisarchitecture  :S08:27
Jucatoyeah... looks like we all either have to wait for Flash Player 9 for Linux, or for Gnash to catch up...08:28
TheCoffeMakerShan_ what about u? .. can initialize win?08:28
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TheCoffeMakerPhirax what time is over there?08:30
Shan_win?08:30
Phirax_On_Laptopum its err 4:30pm08:30
TheCoffeMakerwindows08:30
epyfrofor me 8:3008:30
Shan_beer time!!08:30
Shan_no?08:30
Shan_lol08:30
Phirax_On_Laptopalmost'08:31
Phirax_On_Laptop:P08:31
Shan_its 12 pm for me08:31
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Phirax_On_Laptop1 hr08:31
epyfroin France08:31
TheCoffeMaker3:30 A.M. - 1908:31
Shan_whats with AMD and fan speeds?08:31
TheCoffeMakerin Argentina08:31
Shan_12 p 19th in India08:31
Shan_12 pm even08:31
epyfro:)08:32
Shan_i think rentacoder is a sca08:32
Phirax_On_LaptopShan_: if your talking Athlon64, then usually the fan is dynamic, depends on your mobo though, and if you have cool n quite enabled it changes speed quite alot08:32
Shan_m08:32
Shan_lol08:32
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TheCoffeMakerIndia ... I work with an indian in citibank ;D08:32
Phirax_On_Laptoplol08:32
Shan_thats neat TheCoffeMaker  :-)08:32
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Phirax_On_Laptopi go to uni with a few indians,08:33
Shan_everyone been to a Uni with a few indians08:33
Shan_lol08:33
Phirax_On_Laptopcan't wait to watch the indian commonwealth games intro deal, some of your chicks are mighty hot :p08:33
Shan_we are a part of every educatiuoa system in every country08:33
Shan_amen to that08:33
insanekanePhirax_On_Laptop: heh08:33
JohnFluxShan_: you're indian?08:33
Shan_yeah JohnFlux08:34
red__is there any form of a Notebook Hardcare Control for Kubuntu08:34
insanekaneShan_: where from ?08:34
JohnFluxShan_: quick question - do you consider yourself asian?08:34
TheCoffeMakerhere in argentina is very strage to see an indian08:34
Shan_insanekane, Pune the IT center hehe08:34
insanekaneShan_: ah08:34
Shan_JohnFlux, yeah08:34
insanekaneJohnFlux: i dont think the Americans would call us Asian08:34
JohnFluxinsanekane: same in europe08:34
Shan_yeah08:34
Phirax_On_Laptopwell argentina is a log way from india i guess08:35
JohnFluxinsanekane: we don't tend to think of indians as asians08:35
Shan_yeah08:35
Shan_India rocks tho08:35
JohnFluxasian == chinese/japanese08:35
Shan_lol08:35
insanekaneJohnFlux: it is probably because we are from the "Indian Subcontinent"08:35
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Shan_well.. in that context.. i'm just Indian then08:35
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unix_infidelwell, call it it SE Asia then.08:35
Jucatogeographically, India is in Asia08:35
insanekaneJohnFlux: Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Sinhalese ... all considered "Indian"08:35
JohnFluxJucato: of course08:35
Phirax_On_Laptopi used to fly in to new dheli (spelling?) quite a bit08:35
unix_infidelPhirax_On_Laptop: for what?08:35
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Shan_Phirax_On_Laptop, work related?08:36
TheCoffeMakerAmericans = USA natives, Canadian, Mexicans, Argentinians etc08:36
Jucatonew delhi08:36
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JohnFluxTheCoffeMaker: +australlian..08:36
Jucato@_@08:36
Shan_lol08:36
TheCoffeMaker?08:36
Phirax_On_Laptopi used to live in kenya, so to get back home to aus our flights some times stop'd there,08:36
Phirax_On_Laptopnah i was a kid back then08:36
Shan_aaah08:37
Shan_but i still think rentacoder is a scam08:37
TheCoffeMakerJohnFlux: what are u trying to say?08:37
Phirax_On_Laptoplol08:37
Shan_lol08:37
unix_infidelrentacoder?08:37
unix_infidelwtf?08:37
Shan_heh08:38
Shan_its a freelance site08:38
TheCoffeMakeryeap08:38
TheCoffeMakerrent a coder08:38
JohnFluxTheCoffeMaker: hmm, nothing - even us british get called american while on holiday ;)08:38
unix_infidelwhy would i do that when i can have one on retainer for close to nil.08:38
TheCoffeMakerhahaha08:38
Phirax_On_Laptopexactly what it is, rent a coder08:38
unix_infideli mean that's nonsense.08:38
Shan_heh08:38
Phirax_On_Laptopa mate of mine has a company called hireanerd08:38
unix_infideli call my uncle up, he's like yea, i've got this nice indian boy to code your mysql stuff.08:38
Shan_rofl08:38
unix_infidelhe doesnt smoke or anything.08:39
Phirax_On_Laptopsorta close i guess08:39
Shan_lol unix_infidel08:39
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Shan_i can be your ice Idia boy for embedded related needs08:39
Phirax_On_Laptoplol08:39
unix_infidelI still cant believe some people pay Rs. 4000 for a website anymore.08:39
Shan_i dont thin my n key is working well08:39
Shan_lol08:40
Shan_is there a switch to see the progress of thee file being moved?08:40
TheCoffeMakercan say me what's the meaning of lol?08:41
Shan_Laugh Out Loud08:41
TheCoffeMakerthanks!08:41
Shan_npp08:41
Shan_ad thats my Linux help for te day08:41
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Shan_i am buying trhe new G5 mouse08:43
Shan_:-)08:43
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unix_infidelg5 mouse?08:43
unix_infidelyou mean mighty mouse?08:44
Shan_lol08:44
Shan_yes08:44
Shan_i used to like the Atom Ant cartoon08:44
Shan_hehe08:44
TheCoffeMakermmm I cant follow you :S08:45
TheCoffeMakerhaha08:45
TheCoffeMakerok Shan_ focus on your problem again ... can u delete the files?08:45
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TheCoffeMakerhave you download avg free for linux?08:46
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Shan_TheCoffeMaker, i think i had :/08:46
Shan_and i'm moving the files08:46
Shan_not deleting them08:46
ballchalkdoes anybody know where i can find sun-java5-jre ???08:46
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ballchalkadept messed it up08:47
TheCoffeMakeryeap08:47
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TheCoffeMakerohhh ... use the original fom sun08:47
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TheCoffeMakerand edit the /etc/profile file ... u will never have a problem ;)08:48
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ballchalk?08:49
TheCoffeMaker??08:49
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TheCoffeMakeri dont use apt to get java working08:50
ballchalkapt-get to install it i mean08:50
ballchalki might have set a repository and saw sun-java5-jre and bin in adept08:50
ballchalkbut it's no longer there08:51
Jucatoerr.. I think it should be "don't use Adept to get java working"08:51
ballchalkya i kno i messed up my system08:51
ballchalkbut i'm just saying which ubuntu repository was it in?08:51
Jucatoballchalk: dapper multiverse08:51
ballchalkjucato what do i put in sources.list?08:52
TheCoffeMakeryeap08:52
Shan_mhm08:52
Shan_should I buy the mouse on ebay?08:52
ballchalki'll add that to my sources.list08:52
Jucatoballchalk: add "multiverse" to the line with "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe"08:52
ballchalkok08:52
ballchalkbrb08:52
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TheCoffeMakersomebody can use all keys of M$ Natural 4k keyboard in Linux?08:53
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Shan_ok08:54
Shan_i'm off to buy my mouse and hdd08:54
Shan_:-)08:54
TheCoffeMakersorry ... someone   :P08:54
Shan_bbl fellas08:54
Shan_tc08:54
TheCoffeMakerok ... im trying to understand the meanings of all chating codes ... but ... bbl fellas ... it realy kill me08:55
insanekaneTheCoffeMaker: try getting Lineak ... i think that can help you with your keyboard08:56
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Jucatobbl = be back later08:56
TheCoffeMaker:P08:57
ballchalkJucato: wow can i just add multiverse to all the lines?08:57
Jucatoballchalk:  no08:57
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ballchalki see some restricted08:57
Jucatoballchalk: look for the one with "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe"08:57
Jucatothen add (do not replace) "multiverse" to the end of that line08:57
ballchalkyea i did08:57
Jucatothen you're set to go08:58
Jucato"sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin" or sun-java5-jre08:58
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ballchalkthe jre depends on the bin08:59
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ballchalkwill apt-get automate that?08:59
Jucatoyep08:59
ballchalkhmmm08:59
ballchalkok08:59
ballchalkbrb08:59
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TheCoffeMakerwell ... ladys and gentlemen ... Im off ... Im so sleepy ... here is 4:00 A.M. ... pleased to meet all of u ... good bye09:00
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Phirax_On_Laptophey would be ok to delete the config lines for tablet PC namely /dev/wacom from /etc/X11/xorg.conf?09:00
Phirax_On_LaptopTheCoffeMaker: night mate09:01
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ballchalkjre bin installed09:04
ballchalkthanks09:04
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Jucatogood09:04
Jucatohave fun ^_^09:04
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mighty-dhow can i make ssh to run from start?09:05
Philip5mighty-d: check the on boot in system settings / system services09:07
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luc_nick crouic609:07
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mighty-dthanks philips09:09
Philip5np09:09
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ballchalkk09:11
ballchalkgood night09:12
michaelhey all, quick question...  can ubuntu be installed from the command line?09:13
Phirax_On_Laptopmichael, as in not text based?09:13
michaelas in a terminal maybe?09:14
michaeltrying on an older machine and its not showing me the whole graphic interface...09:15
michaeland no sliders09:15
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Phirax_On_Laptophmm i'm sure there would be a way, you can definately do it using source, binary i guess there would be a way09:15
Phirax_On_Laptopmichael: have you tried the alternate (text based) installer?09:15
michaelno, how would i use that?09:16
Phirax_On_Laptopwhat install disk do you have?09:16
michaelim new to this, but liking it, works great on my 'newer' machine09:16
michaeldapper09:16
Phirax_On_Laptopdo you have the dvd iso, or a single cd installer?09:17
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michaelcd... but i just googled the text base, i see what u mean...09:18
Phirax_On_Laptopyeah you'll need the alternate installer disck09:18
Phirax_On_Laptop*disk09:18
michaelthank you, that looks to answer that09:18
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Phirax_On_Laptopno worries09:18
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SpAwN!iso09:19
ubotuTo mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows09:19
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hsn_how can i install opera browser?09:28
farous!opera09:28
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser09:28
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Phirax_On_Laptophsn_: you can get the deb file from www.opera.com, however if you are running AMD64 your out of luck09:41
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redondo81Hi friends, is there anyone who can help me to fix a modify throught iwconfig?09:49
redondo81???09:50
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Cr4sh5hey can someone help me partition my harddrive without getting rid fo the windows copy?09:51
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Cr4sh5please?09:52
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baris_hellooo09:53
Cr4sh5hey can someone help me partition my harddrive without getting rid fo the windows copy?09:57
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^MiNi_D^Cr4sh5: i told you last night to use FDisk09:57
^MiNi_D^:p09:57
Cr4sh5>.< I looked it confused me09:57
Cr4sh5wanna give me a hand please?09:58
^MiNi_D^man fdisk09:58
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Cr4sh5?09:58
^MiNi_D^or cfdisk09:59
^MiNi_D^type them in consol09:59
^MiNi_D^e09:59
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Cr4sh5doesnt reconize10:00
cvasilakyesterday adept informed that are some updates available, some of the updates were libfreetype, libfontconfig from the beerorkid repository(the one used for the xgl stuff). Now the fonts in my system are looking awesome, really really awesome!!!!. please check yourself to see it, i haven't have this kind of beautiful looking fonts in linux for years!!!10:02
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^MiNi_D^Cr4sh5: are you on windows now?10:03
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^MiNi_D^if you are10:04
^MiNi_D^go and download partition magic10:04
^MiNi_D^and have a play10:04
Cr4sh5ok10:04
Cr4sh5im getting the trial version10:04
^MiNi_D^w/e10:05
^MiNi_D^if u need10:05
^MiNi_D^go and make it official10:05
fdovingCr4sh5: i suggest using the kubuntu live cd,and use qtparted.10:05
^MiNi_D^or what fdoving said10:05
^MiNi_D^cool people use Fdisk :p10:06
Cr4sh5Fdisk isnt reconized as a command10:06
fdovingCr4sh5: lowercase f.10:06
^MiNi_D^yes because your not on linux10:06
^MiNi_D^:p10:06
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^MiNi_D^and fdisk was removed after win9810:07
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altin 3 check this http://www.goolook.ru/?ref_id=1138910:13
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eitch0000!xgl10:19
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems10:19
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_simoncool this works then?10:23
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_simonyou can see this text?10:23
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Healotwe can see it10:25
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MilhousePunkRockGood morning everyone!10:27
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Hobbseehi MilhousePunkRock10:29
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MilhousePunkRockHello Hobbsee!10:29
CVirushow can I save my current session of open tabs in konqueror ?10:29
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JucatoCVirus: Settings > Save View Profile ... > Save URLs in Profile ??10:30
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MilhousePunkRockHello abattoir!10:30
CVirusJucato: Thanks10:30
JucatoCVirus: kool10:31
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andrisphello.. when I open KTorrent, it says several times something like 'Cannot open torrent, broken torrent file' and some of my downloads are lost. Why is that ?10:34
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andrispI noticed that I lost those torrents which are single avi files.10:34
andrispNot those who are a file collection in directory.10:34
eitch0000!xgl10:35
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems10:35
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D4m4gehellow10:42
steevkhey10:43
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hi :)10:43
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tobias#kubuntu.de10:48
tobiasGerman or english?10:49
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Healot!de10:50
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:50
tobiasthx10:50
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Healotsay it in German10:52
Healot :)10:52
MilhousePunkRockthx in German, Healot? Danke!10:52
Healotyeah10:52
Healotjust the feel of it10:52
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tobiasOh.. Danke *g*10:53
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tobiasAny idea how i can use the epson stylus color DX3850 Scanner ?!10:54
Healotthe german line u like to say is "bed mit dir"...10:54
MilhousePunkRockHealot "bed" is not a German word...10:55
tobias:=)10:55
Healotyeah10:55
Healotbed mitt dir, try to say it to girls10:55
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MilhousePunkRockHealot Are you trying to argue with a native speaker about his language?10:57
MilhousePunkRock:-)10:57
Healotno...10:58
Healoti know bed isn't german, but the line is meant to be :)10:58
MilhousePunkRock"Bett mit Dir" maybe10:58
Healotyup10:59
Healotthe German of bett I forgot10:59
MilhousePunkRockHealot Still, that doesn't make sense... Maybe "Ich will mit Dir ins Bett" (= I want to go to bed with you)11:01
Healotit wasn't suppose to, that's the point hoho11:01
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MilhousePunkRockIs anyone familiar with customizing Grub (beyond the average boot menu)?11:03
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xomboxhello!11:08
xomboxdoes anybody use ORINOCO USB client silver?11:09
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HagbarddenstoreHey! Do someone know howto get icons in Thunar? Using Kubuntu...11:16
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misieqhow can i set system time using ntp?11:20
HagbarddenstoreHm... There's no one here to answer questions... A channel full of n00bs... Aint good if you want an answer... :/11:21
misieq!ntp11:22
ubotuntp: Network Time Protocol: network utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2.0a+stable-8.1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 250 kB, installed size 464 kB11:22
misiequbotu can always provide a little help :)11:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about can always provide a little help :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:22
HealotHagbarddenstore, read Kubuntu support, 3rd party app may no be supported?11:22
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HagbarddenstoreHealot:  Huh? I got working before... Just that I had to install like thousands (Lying) of packages to get the right one... It's a theme package...11:23
HagbarddenstoreHealot:  And why shouldn't third party be supported?11:23
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HagbarddenstoreKubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu the big family where we support it all...11:24
jottmisieq: you could just go to system settings -> time & date -> admin -> set date .. automatically...11:24
dvdhellow... anyone knows how i can play mp3 in kubuntu?11:24
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Healotmay not sir.... read may not be...11:24
dvdi cant seem to play mp3 files in kubuntu11:24
Hagbarddenstoredvd:  Have you enabled Universe and Multiverse?11:24
jott(if you do not need a real ntpd running)11:24
HagbarddenstoreWhat program do you use?11:24
dvdermm whats universe and multiverse? i'm using amarok11:25
Healot!repos11:25
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource11:25
Hagbarddenstoredvd:  Oh... Hm... Are you familiar with apt?11:25
HagbarddenstoreHealot:  Good one...11:25
aliasfred!sources11:25
aliasfred!source11:26
Hagbarddenstore!easysource11:26
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic11:26
dvdsorry, i'm not familiar with apt11:26
Hagbarddenstoredvd:  Check ^ tht out...11:26
aliasfredhmmm no more error for unknown command ?11:26
aliasfred!bablabla11:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bablabla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:26
Hagbarddenstoredvd:  Hm... You'll learn by time... :D11:26
aliasfredok im missing something :)11:26
dvdok11:26
Jucato^_^11:26
Jucato!me11:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:27
Hagbarddenstoredvd:  Go private and I tell you more...11:27
aliasfred!source11:27
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource11:27
aliasfredmoauaoua the last time i typed this , i got no answer :)11:27
arepie!automatix11:27
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.11:27
Hagbarddenstorealiasfred:  Maybe he doesn't respond to similiar messages in a small time window?11:27
Jucatomoauaowhat?!?!11:27
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aliasfredHagbarddenstore: unlikely kludge :)11:28
Hagbarddenstore=911:28
Hagbarddenstore =)11:28
aliasfredJucato: similar to lol11:28
Jucatooooh....11:28
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HagbarddenstoreWhy is KDE so much better than Gnome or Xfce or any other windowmanager?11:31
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aliasfredbetter is relative perspective, gnome people think otherwise11:32
aliasfredxcfe too i guess11:32
HagbarddenstoreWhy should I choose KDE then? (I need answers so I can tell others about KDE and have these answers...)11:33
JucatoI agree with aliasfred. I like KDE, and I personally prefer it. But there's no totally objective measure of whether it's better or not11:33
JucatoWhy should you choose KDE? Because it gives you want you want and what you need. The answer is ultimately up to the person using it11:34
jottHagbarddenstore: things like kio are really great...11:34
HagbarddenstoreHm... ok11:34
Hagbarddenstorejott:  Don't make it to hard for me... I can't stand there and explain why kio is so much better than gnome opposite...11:34
JucatoI could recommend KDE, but I wouldn't go so far as trying to "convince" others with some marketing talk :-D11:34
aliasfredjott: as an example, gnome has kio too, they call that gnome-vfs11:34
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Jucatobut gnome-vfs isn't as, um... accessible as KIO?11:35
HagbarddenstoreJucato:  Well... Hm... Give the answer of: Why choose Linux instead of Windows?11:35
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aliasfredJucato: then it is a matter of apps using the kio/gnome-vfs :)11:35
JucatoHagbarddenstore: the same answer that I give for "why choose KDE over GNOME"11:35
Jucatoaliasfred: what's GNOME's counterpart for KIO slaves?11:36
aliasfredJucato: gnome-vfs11:36
aliasfredas a coder, do i believe that kde is better architectured than gnome, yes :)11:36
MilhousePunkRockHagbarddenstore Hagbard as in "Hagbard Celine"?11:36
Jucatoaliasfred: so they have stuff like media:/, system:/, tar:/, settings:/, fish:/, etc?11:36
aliasfredJucato: yep all the same, well very similar i mean11:37
Jucatoaliasfred: could you please point me to a list of those gnome-vfs things? I've been trying hard to find them. KDE has a list in KHelpCenter, but I can't seem to find one for GNOME11:37
Jucatoall I know of are computer:// and burn://11:37
aliasfredi dont think they have much funky stuff like system://,11:38
aliasfredJucato: me too :)11:38
arepiehello, im trying to make a c++ program, what should i use to compile + editor in GUI. I've installed kdevelop, but i don't know hoe to compile the source code11:38
aliasfredJucato: i dont have any offhand11:38
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HagbarddenstoreMilhousePunkRock:  Huh? Hagbarddenstore as in Hagbard the Great as in a comic strip...11:38
aliasfredJucato: you will likely be able to find one as good as me :)11:38
Jucatoaliasfred: that's why I said that KIO was  more accessible than gnome-vfs11:38
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aliasfredJucato: oh you mean kde is better documented. i think so too11:39
Jucatonot only better documented, but they also have more "visible" applications11:39
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aliasfredwell all that is not very much on topic, and we try not to engage too much about 'we are good' 'they are bad' kinda stuff :)11:39
MilhousePunkRockHagbarddenstore Ok... Never heard of it though...11:40
jottaliasfred: its more like "why is this and that better" ;-)11:40
jottaliasfred: or.. why do i like it more ;)11:40
Jucatoehehe! sorry. I was just wondering about how to use gnome-vfs and bonobo (GNOME's counterpart to KParts, iirc)11:40
Jucatothought you might know :-D11:40
jottaliasfred: so as for why do i like c++ oo more then gobject ;)11:41
HagbarddenstoreWell... You could say (Without starting flamewar) That KDE is the easier one.. Gnome is more flashy but harder to get help in.. (from docus) and Xfce is the really hard one... They all have advantages...11:41
aliasfredi thought quite a lot about why people prefere kde over gnome, but it is offtopic :) maybe we should talk more over #kubuntu-offtopic11:41
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aliasfredi never go there :)11:41
Jucatolol11:42
Jucatothat's why we have so few people over there11:42
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aliasfredok i put it in my bookmark then :)11:42
Jucatobut practically speaking, it's quite hard to absolutely stay on course/topic. there will always be digressions...11:42
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Jucatoand it's also hard to determine where on-topic ends and off-topic starts11:43
aliasfredi agree the point is more lets not do it too much :)11:43
jottand anyway we at least have to pretend we like kde as we are in #Kubuntu ;)11:43
michael__lol11:43
Jucatolol11:43
michael__i thought kde was the flashier one...hmm11:43
Jucatook, something more on topic: I've been having an extremely difficult time building the Applications index in KHelpCenter11:44
aliasfredbeginner asking for help feel less confortable asking questions when they disrupt a long passionated offtopic chat :)11:44
JucatoI always have errors about htdig. And even when I install htdig, the Applications index still won't build properly11:44
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HagbarddenstoreAdept or Synaptics?  What do you prefer and why?11:46
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JucatoHagbarddenstore: I think aliasfred has been pretty clear that this isn't the place for topics like this11:46
HagbarddenstoreJucato:  Hm.. In #Kubuntu-off then?11:46
JucatoHagbarddenstore: I think so11:46
Jucatobut honestly, I find the title "-offtopic" is a bit misleading, aliasfred.11:47
Jucatothe way I interpreted it the first time I saw it was that it's a place for Kubuntu users to talk about non-Kubuntu or non-Linux stuff11:48
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Jucatowhen actually it's also a place to talk about non-support but probably Kubuntu-related topics11:48
MilhousePunkRockJucato Look at the channel info, this is Kubuntu-support... So discussing which WM is better is indeed OT11:48
aliasfredJucato: you want to strart #kubuntu-nonsupport channel ?11:49
Jucatoaliasfred: nope :-D11:49
aliasfredhehe :)11:49
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: yes, I know. But notice I said, "title" not "topic"11:49
MilhousePunkRockJucato But aren't the "simple" channels always support channels?11:50
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JucatoMilhousePunkRock: yes, but there's no indication that #kubuntu-offtopic is the place for non-support, Kubuntu-related or otherwise, topics11:51
Jucatoalso notice I didn't say that there was nothing wrong with the #kubuntu title/name...11:51
jottMilhousePunkRock: well they tend to provide support but not necessarily exclusive ;)11:51
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Jucatoanyway, I digress again. My apologies...11:52
misieqthere was a perl script called bashful i think, that retrieved quotes from bash.org and presented them with colors, nice formatted etc... you guys know where to get it?11:52
jottbut at least this channel has the topic "Kubuntu Support Channel" ;-)11:52
MilhousePunkRockJucato I believe you can even discuss non-Linux topics over in #kubuntu-offtopic, just with the kubuntu people...11:52
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misieqat second thought that script could also be python11:53
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JucatoMilhousePunkRock: yes. #kubuntu-offtopic, as I am led to believe, is a place for non-support, Kubuntu-related, non-Kubuntu-related, Linux-related, non-Linux related, topics. But the name #kubuntu-offtopic and the absence of a clear topic/description would lead one to presume that it is not the place to have non-support but Kubuntu-related topics11:54
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Jucatojott: yeah. But what is the ratio of people reading the complete topic? the fact that newcomers don't seem to be aware about pastebin says a lot...11:55
Jucatooh well...11:55
JucatoEr... anyone here who could help me with the KHelpCenter Applications index problem I have?11:56
jottJucato: whats the exact problem / error message?11:56
MilhousePunkRockJucato That fits with the misleading name of this channel, doesn't it? ;-)11:56
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misieq!bashful11:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bashful - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:56
Jucatowell, kubuntu-offtopic is more misleading :-D11:56
michael__well for kubuntu support this is def on 'off topic'... hehe11:57
Jucatojott: ok, that's weird... I used to get a htdig error... but now there's no error. But I still can't "Search" the Applications Index11:58
Jucatoit only searches the UNIX manual pages11:58
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JucatoThis is the output of KHelpCenter: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2106512:00
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jottah i see i get the same too12:01
jottlooks like the perl script is broken ;)12:01
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Jucatoso basically KHelpCenter is useless for me, unless I know what I'm looking for and where it is...12:01
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octanhi all12:01
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Herukahi-nightmare with pairing bluetooth-many days-no success-any suggestions12:02
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jottJucato: edit line 94 and remove one of the kde's ;)12:02
octanim having problems after a  update.. i use synaptic, but after the update with adept synaptic stoped working, when i try to run it i get this error message:12:03
octansynaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:03
Jucatomisieq: I think I found what you were looking for through Google. unfortunately, the site says that it's not working anymore12:03
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jottJucato: /usr/bin/khc_docbookdig.pl12:03
Jucatomisieq: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shynahum/bashful/12:03
jottJucato: in line 94 there is $kdekdehtmldir that should probably be $kdehtmldir12:03
michael__jucato, try the google cache?12:03
Jucatomichael__: huh?12:03
Jucatojott: ok, I will try12:04
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Hagbarddenstoresynaptics:  Hey again12:05
michael__advanced search, cache supposed to load pages from its cache like 6 months ago12:06
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Jucatomichael__: err... I don't need Google's cache... I was telling misieq that the python script she was looking for was no longer working12:07
arepiehow to code c++ in kubuntu?12:07
michael__oh sorry12:07
michael__missunderstood12:07
Jucatono problem12:07
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eguzki_hola12:11
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Jucatojott: didn't work... I still can't search the Applications Manual. Although it says that the manual/index was built successfully. must be a bug?12:24
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jottJucato: yes definitely12:26
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jottJucato: ah http://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2006/07/msg00273.html look here..12:26
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jottJucato: my "fix" did not help them either as it seems ;)12:27
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jottbut they claim its fixed in the latest debian package...12:28
JucatoI'll go check in VMWare is SUSE (KDE 3.5.4) is experiencing the same thing12:28
JucatoKHelpCenter and the KDE and Kubuntu docs are nice... but practically useless if all you can do is search the UNIX manuals12:28
jotthehe workaround: google ;)12:29
Jucatoalthough, the help:/ kio slave works fine but it's very limited...12:29
Jucatolol12:29
Jucatooh, which reminds me to make a Google home page :-D12:30
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jotthttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126804 hmmmm12:31
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jottseems to exist since atleast 3.5.2 ;)12:31
Jucatoit's been there since KDE 3.5.1, I think...12:31
Hobbseeoh, that bug...12:31
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JucatoHobbsee: you have a perfectly working KHelpCenter?12:32
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HobbseeJucato: i dont quite know...12:32
Hobbseeit's been a long while since i tried it out12:32
Jucatowhere you can search within the Applications manual and the UNIX manuals?12:32
Jucatooh well...12:32
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jottbut it looks like its debian specific...12:33
jott(at least only debian references)12:33
HobbseeGlobal symbol "$kdekdehtmldir" requires explicit package name at /usr/bin/khc_docbookdig.pl line 94.12:33
HobbseeExecution of /usr/bin/khc_docbookdig.pl aborted due to compilation errors.12:33
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Hobbseeinteresting12:34
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HobbseeJucato: its' screwed12:34
Jucatoyeah.. figures.. :-(12:34
Hobbseethere's a bug in LP for that, i know12:34
Hobbseei dont know the fix though12:34
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JucatoI'm just puzzled that the bug is still alive after all this time...12:35
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Jucatojust like the K Menu bug....12:35
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djclue917does anybody know how to call the Run dialog manually?12:36
djclue917via a command for example..12:37
JucatoALt+F212:37
Jucatooh12:37
Jucatoum...12:37
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djclue917Jucato: I12:37
djclue917oops12:37
djclue917Jucato: I'm doing something with KDE.. hehe12:37
Jucatosearching...12:38
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Jucatogrr I remember coming across it before...12:39
GeneralZoddjclue917:You might want to look at Katapult, which is like the Run Dialog++ and can be invoked via dcop.12:40
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Jucatobut he needs the command12:40
Jucatodjclue917: I think you better start searching KDCOP :-D12:40
fdovingdjclue917: 'dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface popupExecuteCommand'12:40
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Jucatofdoving: kool12:41
Jucatorawr!12:41
fdovingdjclue917: you can also populate the text field with another argument, like 'dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface popupExecuteCommand kate'12:41
djclue917fdoving: thanks!12:41
fdovingyou're welcome.12:41
JucatoI kept on searching for "run" in KDCOP...12:41
Jucatofarewell soon, beloved KDCOP...12:42
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fdovingi use the good old commandline-dcop :)12:42
Jucatojott: It's a Debian only bug. SUSE works fine12:43
thoth:)12:43
Jucatofdoving: eheheh12:43
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Jucatobut still, you would need the to know at least the proper keywords, right?12:43
fdovingyou get lists of available functions.12:44
Jucatobtw, KDBus is already available, but still a bit empty12:44
fdoving'dcop' gives you the initial list.. 'dcop kdesktop' gives you the kdesktop list.. etc.12:44
fdovingkdcop is nice though.12:44
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Jucatofdoving: same with KDCOP, except in a nice GUI, tree-like structure12:44
Jucatoand a nice search feature12:44
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fdovingi can see that.. started it now, just to take a look. alot better than when i tested it last time. a few years ago :)12:45
Jucatofdoving: too bad it will be a bit useless soon. But KDBus seems to built the same way. so no worries :-D12:46
fdovingand for konq sessions you get the icons from the website.12:46
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synapticsanyone knows how to disable synaptics tapping in kubuntu?12:46
Jucatokool! Firefox 1.5.0.4 has been added to the list of Browser Identifications. When did this happen?12:47
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gianlucaciao a tutti12:49
fdovingsynaptics: i suggest installing 'ksynaptics' and use alt+f2 'kcontrol' find synaptics in tthere.12:50
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gianlucathere is a channel for italian irc?12:50
fdoving!it12:51
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:51
Jucatooh there... he beat me to it :-D12:51
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gianlucatks ubotu12:51
Jucatokool! the new Firefox 1.5.0.4 spoof works flawlessly with Gmail!12:52
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gianlucabat you responde me in english12:52
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synapticsfdoving:  i found synaptics there but i cant configure it12:54
michael__quick ? is there any disadvantage to using text install?12:54
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djclue917Jucato: are you using Xgl? :D12:56
Jucatodjclue917: nope12:56
Jucatogotta go. dinner time :-D12:56
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West-en-enhello?12:59
West-en-eni nedd help with grub12:59
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West-en-eni have 4 partitions01:00
West-en-enSystem, Windows, Linux, Linux swap01:00
West-en-enand i need to rewrite MBR01:00
West-en-enshould I use grub then?01:00
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xanax`hello01:02
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fdovingsynaptics: can't configure, how can't? no option? (i don't have a synaptics touchpad myself, so i don't really know anything beyond this).01:11
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synapticsfdoving: yes. there arent any option01:12
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synapticshmm any other way?01:14
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fdovingsynaptics: hmm.. is there a 'administration mode01:14
fdoving button? at the bottom.01:14
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thothHei maybe anyone know about baselayout update01:15
fdovingbaselayout?01:15
thothya01:16
fdovingwhat is that?01:16
jottsounds like gentoo ;)01:16
thoth baselayout   it is some bug after update01:16
thothgentoo ;)    it is there also01:16
fdovingthoth: do you get a error message? can you post it to http://pastebin.ca ?01:17
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ubuntureally need help!01:17
thothokey , just sec01:17
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synaptics<fdoving> synaptics: hmm.. is there a 'administration mode<--nope01:18
ubuntui have packed my linux system in a tar file01:18
ubuntuthen i formated the whole drive, i installed xp and linux01:18
ubuntubooted the live-cd and extracted the tar file in the linux-partition, edit men.lst, rewrite MBR01:19
ubuntubut when i try to boot, i get this error /bin/sh can't access tty; job control turned off01:19
ubuntuwhat is it??01:19
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ubuntuplease, i need help!01:20
SubNetHello Guys01:22
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thothbut when i try to boot, i get this error /bin/sh can't access tty; job control turned off01:22
SubNetProblem: external USB-Disk with NTFS is not writable01:22
thothhei you must do :01:22
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thothboot from livecd01:23
thothmount root part01:23
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thoth&01:23
thothmknod -m 660 console c 5 101:23
SubNetumask=000 is in fstab, rw-entry is in fstab01:23
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SubNetmount says it is mounted ro o.O01:23
jottSubNet: default ntfs has no write support01:24
ubuntuthoth: are you atlking to me?01:24
SubNetjott: How can i get write-support in dapper?01:24
jottSubNet: you need to go for ntfs-3g (or was it ntfs-g3?)01:24
jott!ntfs-3g01:25
ubotuntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=171001:25
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SubNetis that free of charge?01:25
tkyes, its free01:25
jottfree01:25
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SubNetcool - thx so far01:25
tkand it works great, I use it :)01:25
bruno___hello01:26
jotttk: do you know if it supports compressed folders?01:26
SubNetjott: How stable and secure is that driver?01:26
tkjott: where were you when I asked about it, having a DEB woulda been so much nicer :P01:26
ubuntuplease, thoth, are you talking to me?01:26
ubuntushould i do the mknod thing?01:26
jottSubNet: well as its stated "extensively tested" but "use with caution" so.. own risk ;)01:27
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jottbut should work fine...01:27
ubuntui have done that and i will try to reboot now, thanks!01:27
tkjott: never used compressed folders...01:27
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jotttk: ok i see ...just curious..01:27
fdovingsynaptics: then i don't have any more ideas. tried ubuntuforums.org ?01:27
michael__tk, how long have u been using that?01:27
tkthoth: are you privmsg'ing ubuntu? :P01:28
synapticsi'll try that out fdoving01:28
tkmichael__: a week or so, I've used it to xfer... a little over gig of data between linux and ntfs01:28
michael__no corruption?01:28
michael__i would guess so far....01:29
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michael__formatting new drive as we type to work for both os's, was gonna fat32 to be safe01:29
michael__but...01:29
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tkmichael__: no problems yet01:30
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michael__have u tried the driver for windows that allows ext2 access?01:31
michael__or heard about..01:32
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jottmichael__: yes works quite good..01:33
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SubNetHow can I find out if fuse is installed or not??01:34
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SubNetFUSE is a kernel-Module - sth for ntfs-support01:34
thoreauputicSubNet: it's in the kernel - sudo modprobe fuse01:35
jorikfuse is a userspace filesystem driver ... i don't think you need it for ntfs-support01:36
thoreauputicSubNet: if that says nothing, fuse is there ( it should be by default - just add it to /etc/modules to have it load on boot)01:36
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thoreauputicjorik: I think the new ntfs write program uses fuse ( might be wrong)01:36
SubNetthx thoreauputic01:37
thoreauputicI use it for sshfs01:37
jorikand for gmail-fs ;-)01:37
thoreauputicntfs-3g or something like that?01:37
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thoreauputichmm yes google says ntfs-3g uses fuse apparently01:39
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joriki wonder if it's possible to use fuse to have / on an ftp site01:40
shivthoreauputic: the forums have the best how to I was up and running in 2 min01:41
thoreauputicshiv: ah, good to know :)01:41
shivthoreauputic: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21700901:41
thoreauputicthanks01:41
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thoreauputicjorik: ftp I don't know, but it works with sshfs to mount a remote shell space ( a bit like gnome-vfs but IMO better )01:42
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tobiasI've got a windows fileserver in my LAN. I'm mounting its shares via fstab. It all works well. But when I hybernate my laptop and start it again later, the mounts don't work anymore. sudo mount -a did not help. Any ideas?01:43
jorikyeah i know, but i was thinking, if you'd create an initrd that does the mounting and then chrooted, it should be possible ... no?01:44
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thoreauputicjorik: that's too advanced for my feeble knowledge :)01:45
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jorikn00b ! :p01:46
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thoreauputicyes, sort of a n00b in some ways and not others :)01:46
thoreauputicjorik: I only know stuff I'm interested in I guess - or need :)01:46
jorikwhen i started out linux i had a seperate partition to try all kinds of wierd stuff like that ... i learned a lot01:46
thoreauputicjorik: right - that's why I played with sshfs ( it seemed cool ) I also wasted a lot of time trying to understand midi, soft synth, jackd and other stuff like that - I still don't quite understand any of it to be honest :)01:48
jorikcool01:49
thoreauputicjorik: there's just so much you can learn - it would never end :)01:49
jorikdo you know any decent music-creating software ?01:49
thoreauputicas in midi? Rosegarden is pretty nice01:49
thoreauputicI haven't played with audacity and friends much01:50
jorikno as in, i wanna record my saxophone and then throw some effects on it01:50
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thoreauputicah - probably start with Audacity then01:50
thoreauputicardour is the hard-core music app apparently ( I took one look and ran )01:51
thoreauputic;p01:51
jorikhehehe01:51
Jucatoexcuse me, is rosegarden something like Finale?01:52
jotthehe the ardour screenshot looks funny ;)01:52
jorikwell imma get back to work, i'll try ardour later01:52
thoreauputicno idea since I don't know finale01:52
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Jucatoum... ok ^_^01:52
thoreauputicJucato: rosegarden allows you to write music and make midis or rosegarden's special format - it has notation both traditional and in the "midi" style01:53
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thoreauputicie you can write music in staves with notes if you read music01:53
Jucatoand by traditional you mean like musical score sheets?01:54
thoreauputicyou can also print it out etc01:54
thoreauputicright01:54
Jucatokool! it is like Finale01:54
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thoreauputicJucato: be warned - you might need to wrestle with midi configuration and/or soft synth or timidity01:54
jottoh Jucato btw i solved the khelpcenter problem ;)01:54
Jucatothoreauputic: oh ok... ^_^01:55
Jucatojott: really? care to share? :-D01:55
thoreauputicJucato: depending on your sound card01:55
redondo81Hi, is there anyone can help me to install 3d desktop?01:55
thoreauputic!info 3ddesk01:55
ubotuPackage 3ddesk does not exist in dapper01:55
jottJucato: step 1) install htdig 3.2 ( http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/web/htdig backport this)01:55
thoreauputichmm01:55
Jucato!info 3ddesktop01:55
ubotu3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-5.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 448 kB01:55
jott2) fix the one line i told you01:55
thoreauputic!info 2ddesktop01:56
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ubotuPackage 2ddesktop does not exist in dapper01:56
thoreauputichah01:56
redondo81I try now01:56
thoreauputic!info 3ddesktop01:56
ubotu3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-5.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 448 kB01:56
jott3) in /usr/bin/khc_docbookdig.pl set $htdigdata = "/etc/htdig/"01:56
thoreauputic3rd time lucky..01:56
Jucatojott: which version of htdig is in the repos? I have that one installed01:57
thoreauputicoh oops I should have read...01:57
jott4) /usr/bin/khc_htsearch.pl set $htsearchpath="/usr/lib/cgi-bin/htsearch"01:57
jottJucato:  3.1 or so.. plus it depends on apache what is really unnecessary..01:57
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Jucatojott: so I must install the Edgy version of htdig won't it cause some conflicts?01:58
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jottJucato: backport.. just get source from the edgy page apply patch and do a dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot01:59
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jottif you have some webspace i can give you the deb..01:59
jottor some place to put it..01:59
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jott1.8mb02:00
amachuhi all... this is basic bout IRC02:00
Jucatohm... hold on....02:00
grotheskWhat ist the command to reconfigure xorg.conf?02:00
grothesksudo dpkg --reconfigure foobar?02:01
amachuhow to retain a IRC channel after leaving the channel?02:01
Jucatojott: something strange happened :-D02:01
fdovingamachu: you can rejoin a channel with the command '/join #channelname', for example '/join #kubuntu'02:02
Jucatojott: I followed the instructions using the htdig from Dapper. I can now search the Applications manuals, but I get this02:02
Jucato"There is no documentation available for /file://home/jucato/.kde/share/apps/khelpcenter/index/kde_application_manuals.tmp/index.html."02:02
jottJucato: http://rapidshare.de/files/29971983/htdig_3.2.0b6-1_i386.deb.html02:02
amachufdoving: i want to b an operator of a new channel..02:02
eitch0000anyone got an idea why the keyboad layout is not working anymore when I'm in the xgl server?02:02
jottJucato: it does not work with 3.1..02:02
Jucatooh ehehe! stubborness... ^_^02:03
Jucatothanks! I'm downloading it now02:03
JucatoI guess I have to remove the older htdig?02:03
fdovingamachu: ah, you mean registering a channel? '/msg chanserv help register'02:03
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jottJucato: hmm i guess apt should take care.. but it cant hurt..02:03
fdovingamachu: you have to register your nickname before registering channels. FYI.02:03
Jucatoerr.. ok I'm going to sound noobish... can apt-get install from .deb??02:03
amachufdoving: ok, i have my nick registered02:04
jottJucato: dpkg -i bla.deb02:04
Jucatoah ok02:04
fdovingamachu: then '/msg chanserv help register' should be helpful for you.02:04
jottso its actually not apt you are right ;)02:04
Jucatojott: thank you very much for this. I have no idea about the source code fakeroot thingy... @_@02:05
amachufdoving: ok.. i will try..02:05
jottJucato: there is probably an easy howto somewhere ;)02:05
jott!backport02:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about backport - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:05
Jucato!backports02:06
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports02:06
Jucatoehehe! Ubuntu Backports are non-functional... silly ubotu :-D02:06
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jott;)02:06
amachuREGISTER #ubuntu-ta Kayalvizhi1!02:06
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Jucatohere goes everything...02:06
Jucatokool! now I kan see it building :-D02:07
fdovingamachu: that is with a '/msg chanserv ' in front.. and please use another password next time :)02:07
fdovinghave to go buy some food. later.02:07
Jucatonow it's really building, liKe it did in SUSE!02:07
Jucatojott: so I'm presuming this is fixed in Edgy?02:07
jotti hope so..02:07
jottat least the right htdig is used..02:08
Jucatoyeah, I hope so too02:08
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jottif those perl scripts are fixed... i don't know ,)02:08
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Jucatohmm... this will taKe quite some time... 0%...02:08
jotthehe i think it jumps to 100%02:08
Jucatolol!02:09
Jucatoright as always02:09
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Jucatokool! thanks jott! KHelpCenter is now more useful :-D02:10
jott;) no problem02:11
Jucatonow, if only Kubuntu added it's docs to the index...02:11
Jucatojott: does the search only point to a topic or specific manual? it does not point to the specific section of that manual?02:12
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jottJucato: hm i don't know ;)02:12
jottnever used it before ;)02:12
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Jucatoeheheh! ok. I guess I could live with that.02:13
redbladeshi all. I'm in a bit of trouble.02:13
jottdoes suse so?02:13
Jucatonah :-D02:13
redbladesI was running regular Ubuntu, and I installed kubuntu-desktop.02:13
redbladesI tried to remove gnome02:13
Jucatobut SUSE's own SUSE-specific docs have their own index. so you could search SUSE's docs, App docs, and UNIX manuals02:14
jottyeah i see..02:14
redbladesAnd it went okay, except it stopped halfway though, and chucked me onto a non-X session02:14
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redbladesThen, I tried to log in, and it said "/bin/bash does not exist" or similar.02:15
Jucatojott: thank you again!!02:15
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redbladesI'm also having issues because a need to use a command line, but konsole is not working, giving an error about malconfigured pty/02:16
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Jucatoisn't rosegarden supposed to be Qt based?02:17
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redbladesHuh?02:17
Jucatoerr.. sorry, completely different topic02:18
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thoreauputicJucato: as far as aI know, yes02:18
Jucatothoreauputic: it looks like GTK 1 here... like Audacity02:18
thoreauputicJucato: you did install the new one, right?02:18
Jucatofrom the repos...02:18
thoreauputicJucato: rosegarden4 ?02:18
Jucatoooh02:19
Jucatook...02:19
JucatoI thought.... oh well...02:19
thoreauputicJucato: sorry- should have told you02:19
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thoreauputicJucato: apt-cache search rosegarden shows 3 versions02:20
thoreauputicthe nice one is rosegarden402:20
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Jucatothoreauputic: thanks. I'm installing it now02:23
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thoreauputicOK - you'll like this version better :)02:23
JucatoI hope so :-D02:23
thoreauputicheheh02:23
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thoreauputicjust be prepeared for much googling if midi doesn't work out of the box02:24
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Jucatothoreauputic: midi has never worked out of the box for me...02:24
JucatoT_T02:24
Jucatoso I guess this would be a good time to research on how to make it work02:24
thoreauputicJucato: you and lots of others I'd say ( including me)02:24
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waspiushi has anyone used kleansweep???02:25
Jucatothoreauputic: I was trying to look for a page in the Finale website to show you what Finale is... but I seem to have gotten lost in the web site @_@02:25
waspiuscause i dont know how safe it is to remove stuff02:26
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Jucatothoreauputic: good thing there's Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finale_(computer_program)02:27
Jucatoerr... "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finale_(computer_program)"02:28
thoreauputicJucato: thanks :)02:28
Jucatodarn! it didn't include the (....) which is part of the URL02:28
JucatoI hope Rosegarden is something like that...02:28
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redbladesHi all. Look, I really really need some help.02:29
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thoreauputicJucato: well, rosegarden4 has a lot less buttons ;)02:29
redbladesI can't get konsole working, so I have _no_ shells at all.02:29
redbladesI'm having a lot of weird stuff happening.02:30
thoreauputicredblades:  ctrl-alt-F102:30
thoreauputicredblades: or F2.3.4.5 ...02:30
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redbladesNo, because I get a message "/bin/bash does not exist"02:30
thoreauputicredblades: well, what does  echo $SHELL say?02:31
redbladesHow should I know?02:31
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redbladesI can't get to a shell02:31
n3stormredblades: you are on another computer are you?02:31
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redbladesNo02:31
n3storm??02:31
thoreauputicredblades: *cough*  ctrl-alt-F1 to get a prompt02:31
redbladesIt actually says "bin/bash does not exit" as in, not /bin/bash, but bin/bash02:32
thoreauputicredblades: then type your username and pass to log in, and type  echo $SHELL02:32
thoreauputicah02:32
redbladesDoesn't work!02:32
redbladesI'm sorry.02:32
thoreauputicso it thinks the path is in the same directory - weird02:32
redbladesI'm just a little stressed. : )02:32
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jottredblades: have you messed around with /etc/passwd?02:33
redbladesWhere is the file that controls where it looks for such things?02:33
thoreauputicredblades: so what is giving that message ?02:33
redbladesUhh... no OH SHIT.02:33
redbladesI just realised, I removed a group from /etc/groups02:33
thoreauputicredblades: you must have some kind of shell or nothing would come up at all02:33
tobias__hello all! hope your hangover is not as hellish as mine...02:33
redbladesAghhhh!02:33
n3stormredblades: which group?02:34
redbladesredblades02:34
thoreauputicoh dear02:34
redbladesI don't have a user redblades on the system so I assumed it wasn't important,02:34
thoreauputicredblades: boot in recovery mode to get a root shell02:34
tobias__im on a quest to install a hp color laserjet 5m at my local independent activist house, via network, anyone have any experience in stuff like that?02:34
n3stormthoreauputic is right02:34
redbladesUhh... can I use a live CD?02:35
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n3stormredblades: better not02:35
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n3stormor you wouldn't know if the problem is fixed02:35
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tobias__please aid me in my quest so i dont have to boot.... the x word ....02:38
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tobias__followed with a ... p.... may the great penguin forgive me02:38
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tobias__and save this independent activist house from the gates of hellbill02:39
waspiusanyone know an easy firewall to use??or basically an interface for iptables?02:39
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jotttobias__: so you want to provide a network share with the printer or print on an existing network share with the printer?02:40
Smoophwaspius: fwbuilder and something with dog I heard are good02:40
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redbladesOkay, everyone, I'll be back02:41
tobias__jott: i got the printer connected to a router, which is connected to internet and my machine02:41
Jucato_thoreauputic: is it normal for Rosegarden to freeze the whole system when launched from the K Menu?02:41
waspiusSmooph: i have tried guarddog but i did not know how to use it02:41
jotttobias__: so .. what protocol? smb? ipp?02:41
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thoreauputicJucato: erm, no02:41
tobias__jott: hmmm... kubuntu?02:41
Jucato_thoreauputic: it did that, 3 times...02:42
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Jucato_it only ran when I entered the command from the command line...02:42
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tobias__jott: im not so versed in protocols, how do i find out which protocol we use`?02:42
jotttobias__: no.. the network printer share uses some protocol to access it..02:42
thoreauputicJucato: try launching from a terminal and see if you get some useful error messages02:42
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Jucato_thoreauputic: that's the thing. It runs successfully when launched from the terminal...02:42
thoreauputicJucato: ah - maybe check the menu command then02:42
Jucato_ok...02:43
tobias__jott: can i find out in the manual of the printer? I just connected a tp cable from the printer to the router02:43
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thoreauputicJucato: you might have something in the menu command it doesn't like02:43
Jucato_the K Menu command uses "rosegarden4". I launched it from the CLI using "rosegarden" only02:43
jotttobias__: so you can access the printer via http://printerip ?02:43
thoreauputicJucato: don't know why - but I've seen the same thing with konq02:43
larson9999linux rocks!!02:43
Jucato_ok.. here goes nothing :-D02:43
tobias__jott: how can i find the ip?02:43
tobias__jott: is there some way to list the ips?02:44
thoreauputicJucato: hmmm did you uninstall the old rosegarden?02:44
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larson9999it never promised you a rosegarden02:44
jotttobias__: depends ...02:44
thoreauputicJucato: here /usr/bin/rosegarden is a symlink to rosegarden402:45
MetaMorfoziSre02:45
tobias__jott: hmmm02:46
jotttobias__: one way would be not install nmap and scan you local subnet for active computers..02:46
jotttobias__: another would be to access your router and see if you can find the dhcp log..02:46
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tobias__jott: hmm, i dont have the login and password to the router02:46
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jottbut i undestood right, that this printer is a network printer with a normal cat network port?02:47
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tobias__its got a tp network port that i connected to a tp cable and to the router, which is so connected with one tp cable to the adsl thingie, and the router is also connected to my machine with a tp cable02:48
jottok..02:48
psb154Which 'deb http...' source string do I have to change in order to download sun-java5-bin please?02:48
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jotttry "sudo apt-get install nmap" in a konsole..02:48
tobias__oki:)02:49
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Jucatothoreauputic: yep, it was the K Menu entry alright...02:49
thoreauputic!repositories > psb15402:49
thoreauputicJucato: what weirdness did it have in there?02:49
Jucato-caption "%c" %i <forgot the third>02:49
JucatoI had to remove all of them...02:50
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tobias__jott: installed02:50
thoreauputicJucato: heh - I've seen these kinds of errors in the Kmenu before - I usually just replace with a vanilla command02:50
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Jucatoa vanilla what? @_@02:50
jotttobias__: ok now find out your local subnet ips... like 192.168.0.* or 192.168.168.* .. if you don't know do ifconfig and look for it..02:51
tobias__oki02:51
thoreauputicJucato: umm - a plain command like /usr/bin/rosegarden4  ?02:51
fjellrev1I just installed kubuntu but gnome is still running,anyone out there that could tell me how to get the full kubuntu exprience ?02:51
jotttobias__: then do "nmap -sP 192.168.0.0-255" where you replace the first 3 numbers with your subnet...02:52
thoreauputicJucato: as opposed to the chocolate fudge kludge that was there before ;-)02:52
tobias__jott: oki02:52
tobias__jott: a million computer screen apeared02:53
tobias__screens02:53
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Jucatook that does it...02:53
Jucatogoodbye rosegarden02:53
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fdovingJucato: what is your problem with rosegarden?02:54
Jucatoit just freezes my whole system whenever I try to start it02:54
Jucatosometimes it starts, sometimes it doesn't02:55
thoreauputicfjellrev1: just choose KDE as session on the login screen02:55
fdovingoh, interessting.02:55
Jucatointeresting and annoying...02:55
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Jucatomaybe some other time... T_T02:55
fdovingi did some rosegarden packaging a while back.. what version do you use, jucato ?02:55
thoreauputicJucato:  strace rosegarden402:55
Jucatorosegarden4 from the repositories02:55
Jucatothoreauputic: will that have a possibility of freezing my system again?02:55
fdovingJucato: dapper?02:56
Jucatoyep02:56
thoreauputicJucato: probably - but it might give you clues02:56
thoreauputicJucato: anyway I'm sure fdoving knows far more than I02:56
Jucato @_@02:56
thoreauputicbeing a packager etc02:57
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Jucatothanks, but I removed it, for now...02:57
Jucatosome other time perhaps...02:57
thoreauputicJucato: you have a short patience span ;)02:57
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Jucatono, I just can't keep on restarting again and again tonight02:57
fdovingthoreauputic: don't count on it.02:57
fdoving.. that i know more than you.. that is.02:58
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thoreauputicJucato: it took me about a week to figure out timidity as server, ports, freepats, config etc etc to get it all working on my rubbish sound card :)02:58
fdovingJucato: if you want to, you can get rosegarden4 1.2.3 and dssi from http://ubuntu.lnix.net/dapper/ - unmaintained.02:59
Jucatothoreauputic: I have spent almost 12 hours doing a server (minimal) install of Kubuntu, installing X and kde-core from the command line, installing every bit and piece of KDE that I needed. I think I have enough patience for this. But just not tonight (it's night time here)02:59
thoreauputicfdoving: the problem isn't so much rosegarden as midi etc02:59
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thoreauputicJucato: I was just kidding - I understand02:59
thoreauputic:)02:59
redbladesHi!03:00
fdovingthoreauputic: i know, but 1.2.3 is alot better than 1.003:00
redbladesI'm back.03:00
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fdovingJucato: that is 'deb http://ubuntu.lnix.net/dapper/ ./' if you want it in sources.list03:00
javi25holaaaaaaa03:00
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redbladesWell, I still have the same error, although I can't actually recall the exact line so :s03:01
thoreauputicfdoving: looks like I have 1.0.1-2 or so here according to dpkg03:01
Jucatofdoving: thanks. I really appreciate it. I hope you don't take offence, but I can't work on it right now :-(03:01
fdovingthoreauputic: yes, that's the dapper one.03:01
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thoreauputicfdoving: yup03:01
thoreauputicfdoving: so the newer one is available as a deb that installs on dapper without complaint?03:02
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fdovingthoreauputic: the unofficial one i've packaged, yes.03:02
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thoreauputicah I see - I might try it then - thank you !03:02
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Jucatothoreauputic: did you see the wikipedia page I linked to? is Rosegarden really something like Finale?03:03
larson9999think gimpshop will ever make it into the ubuntu repos?03:03
thoreauputicJucato: looks similar but I haven't looked closely to be honest - probably not as advanced03:04
thoreauputicJucato: I mean not as advanced as finale looks at first glance03:04
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JucatoI see03:05
JucatoI was just looking for a way to make some music sheets and play them (in any format). But it's not at the top of my list right now. so maybe some other time...03:05
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fdovingthoreauputic: i'd suggest adding 'deb http://ubuntu.lnix.net/dapper/ ./' to sources.list, as it depends on the new dssi which is also in the repo.03:06
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thoreauputicfdoving: ah OK will do - thanks for the tip03:06
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thoreauputicfdoving: it doesn't appear to be installing any dependencies from that repo ?03:09
thoreauputicfdoving: there are two "recommends"03:10
Jucatowhoa, jpatrick's here ^_^03:10
jpatrickJucato: hey man03:10
Jucatohehe! the youngest Kubuntu dev! ^_^03:11
thoreauputicfdoving: comments? I don't see dssi03:11
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jpatrickJucato: I've had a long break...03:11
Jucatojpatrick: kool! you guys deserve it. :-D03:12
Jucatonow get back to work on Edgy! lol03:12
jpatrickJucato: i've hardly done anything for Edgy..03:12
Jucatohehehe03:12
jpatrickJucato: how are you?03:13
Jucatojpatrick: fine. tweaking things here and there. experimenting with stuff. breaking my system :-D03:13
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fdovingthoreauputic: hm? i was away for a sec.03:14
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thoreauputicfdoving: I'm puzzled - I see two recommends but no dependencies03:14
thoreauputicand nothing about dssi03:15
fdovingthoreauputic: ok, my bad then. might be just build-depends. I don't remember.03:15
thoreauputicand of course an authentiaction warning, but that's expected03:15
thoreauputic*authentication03:16
Jucatoaunthenti-action does sound good... ^_^03:16
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thoreauputicfdoving: OK well I'll go ahead then :) If it's broken I'll lart you unmercifully *G*03:16
thoreauputicjust kidding..03:17
jpatrickthoreauputic: s/he hopes03:18
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thoreauputicjpatrick: :)03:18
thoreauputicunpacking...03:18
anaskiushello03:18
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fdovingthoreauputic: looking forward to it :)03:19
anaskiusanyone using 64 bit kubuntu?03:20
thoreauputicfdoving: when did you first become aware of these masochistic tendencies ? *G*03:20
fdovingthoreauputic: kindergarten :)03:21
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thoreauputicoh a pretty rose.... splash is shorter...03:21
thoreauputicfdoving: well I have sound - that's a good start :)03:23
fdovingsounds good :)03:23
thoreauputicalso seems to be using less CPU than before03:23
thoreauputicplaying the demo03:24
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fdovingthat's not bad :)03:25
anaskiusanyone know how to get a spdif connection working on my soundcard?03:25
thoreauputicfdoving: the notation editor pops up faster too - nice03:25
fdovinganaskius: did you try the switches in kmix?03:25
anaskiusno03:25
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anaskiusis there a switch for that?03:26
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anaskiusmaybe i missed it03:26
fdovinganaskius: don't know, depends on your soundcard and the driver for it.03:26
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anaskiusi have ac97 on asus a8n-e motherboard03:27
waspiusi opened kdiskfree and for some reason i have 3 more dev than what i should..udev,varlock,varrun 220.1mb each..anyone know what they are?03:27
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anaskiuswould be really nice if i could connect my computer to my amplifier that way03:28
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anaskiusdont know where to gety a linux driver for that?03:29
anaskius-y03:29
thoreauputicfdoving: well, it seems a bit more responsive and so far everything works well - thank you :) Where should bug reports go if I see any problems ?03:29
fdovingthoreauputic: heh.. well, you could send them to me at frode@lnix.net, but i doubt anything would happen, as i don't have time to maintain and support the package, and edgy got a 1.2.3 synced from debian. :)03:30
thoreauputicfdoving: ah OK - well thank you for the package - I'll look forward to edgy :)03:31
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Kiongkudpkg does not like pkg names without numbers XD03:33
anaskiusi think everybody who knows something is sleeping...im not because its afternoon in finland03:33
Kiongkuanaskius prob?03:33
JucatoKiongku: not if you're installing03:34
KiongkuJucato: hehe yo man... oh well.. just found out03:34
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Jucato^_^03:34
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Kiongkuthe default amarok03:34
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Kiongkucannot recognise wma in collection03:34
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Kiongkui'm trying to get the latest one03:34
anaskiusmy souncards spdif connection...cant get it working is there some drivers for realtek alc85003:35
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JucatoKiongku: you don't need a new Amarok03:35
JucatoKiongku: you need the w32codecs03:35
Kiongkuanaskius: spdif?03:35
anaskiusamarok is great03:35
anaskiusoptical connection03:35
Jucato!w32codecs03:35
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:35
redbladesHi, I'm back, and I can now use Gnome terminal, but Konsole is still b0rked, as is the alt+ctrl+F1/2/3/3/4 thing03:35
anaskiusor digital03:35
KiongkuJucato: amarok can play wma.. only the collection refuses to list it03:35
Jucatooh03:35
Kiongkuanaskius: ah03:35
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anaskiusdont really know the proper term for that thing03:36
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Kiongkuanaskius: sorry.. really noob in matter of soundcards for linux.. i have an integrated one so i dunt have any prob with it03:36
fdovinganaskius: no dice with the switches in kmix?03:37
anaskiusso do i03:37
larson9999any idea why the kde pesonalize wizard starts every time i log in to kde?03:37
Kiongkuanaskius: http://www.opendrivers.com/driver/211089/Realtek-ALC650-ALC655-AC97-Audio.html03:37
anaskiusill try that..ill have to mount my windows partition first so i can get some music03:37
fdovinglarson9999: you're probably using kde 3.5.4 from kubuntu.org.03:37
anaskiusthanks ill check that out03:38
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Kiongkularson9999: its a known bug.. i had same prob resolved it03:38
larson9999fdoving: argggh  another known?  i guess i should read the known bug stuff more03:38
larson9999:)03:38
Jucatolarson9999: try this link: http://www.kde-forum.org/thread.php?threadid=15137&sid=03:38
Kiongkularson9999: that thing was annoying me yesteday.. kicked it out XD..03:39
JucatoI think Kiongku has the solution03:40
KiongkuJucato: hehe :p03:40
Kiongkuwait i look for it03:41
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JucatoKiongku: does it have something to do with editing /usr/bin/startkde?03:41
anaskiusim downloading that driver now...but i dont really know how to unzip and install it03:41
KiongkuJucato: yap03:41
KiongkuJucato: need to comment kpersonalizer to stop it running03:41
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Kiongkuanaskius: hmm..03:42
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firepolho there. i want to upgrade to dapper without download unnecessary files. thus is it possible to install kubuntu-desktop without its dependencies? so then i replace breezy/dapper in the sources.list and run apt-get dist-upgrade?03:42
anaskiusdo i have to download some program to unzip?03:42
Kiongkuanaskius: nope.. btw whats the prob.. no sound?03:42
anaskiusit was a xip package03:42
Kiongkulinux can take care of zip package03:43
anaskiusi have sound via analog connection but it sounds really bad03:43
Kiongkuanaskius: really no idea ._. first time i hear that prob03:43
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anaskiusi think ill try to get the digital one working even if i have to sit on my computer 24/703:44
anaskius!mount03:44
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks03:44
waspiusif i use icewm is it possible to run a panel on it?03:45
anaskius!mount windows03:46
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anaskius!mount windows partition03:46
ubotumount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.12r-4ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 149 kB, installed size 336 kB03:46
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redbladesSo, I have this issue where if I try to go to a non-X session, I can't get a shell and it says "file bin/bash does not exist" ***note! it says "bin/bash" not /bin/bash03:48
redbladesIs it possible somehow it is looking in the wrong place?03:48
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anaskiusso now i have a zip file called linux_v23.zip and now i need to unzip and install it do i need to use console and what do i do03:48
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fdovingredblades: can you get a root-shell somehow from within X?03:48
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anaskiusby the way...im a linux noob03:50
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fdovingredblades: can you run 'konsole' from within KDE ?03:50
_davidanyone know if xmms has a plugin for wma files?03:50
larson9999ok. i'm all ready to create some crazy captorials.  all i need is some questions with easy answers(i don't know any hard answers)03:50
anaskiusthis seems to be an good system this kubuntu thing03:50
KiongkuJucato: lol some deleted file stayed in desktop..03:51
kbrookssO.03:51
larson9999*buntu isn't so bad i must say03:51
Jucato??03:51
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anaskiushad an idea to try it and i installed it the other day03:51
anaskiusi really like amarok as a mediaplayer03:52
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anaskiusit more versitale than winamp and WMP i think03:52
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anaskiusversatile sorry03:52
fdovingdahump: i think there is something called 'xmms-wma' somewhere.. check xmms.org03:53
anaskiusmy english is rusty..dont use it much03:53
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dahumpok then here is a nice common newbie problem that I'm sure most of you have encountered. I have my kubuntu box networked with my Windows machine. I can see my windows machine, but whenever I try to access my home folder on the Windows machine it asks for my password. I enter my password and it just asks for it again and again and again. Please tell me what I am doing wrong/03:53
dahumpthanks fdoving03:53
redbladesfdoving: yes, I can access a root shell, through gnome-terminal, and no, I have an odd crash when I try to tun Knosle.03:54
redbladesfdoving: konsole03:54
anaskiusbut now to my problem unzipping a package and installing it03:54
fdovingredblades: ok, open gnome-terminal. and run 'sudo chsh -s /bin/bash username' where username is your username03:54
anaskius"so now i have a zip file called linux_v23.zip and now i need to unzip and install it do i need to use console and what do i do" it should be a driver for my soundcard03:55
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firepolwhy should i install (k)ubuntu-desktop (or edu) before upgrading to dapper ?03:56
Healotanaskius, read the README file, it is usually in the uncompressed directory03:56
fdovinganaskius: i'd suggest dropping it, as installing non-supported drivers is a very complicated process.03:56
firepoli dont want to install unnecessary files but just to upgrade to dapper, actually im using ubuntu with fluxbox, not gnome and not kde03:56
anaskiusokay but its a linux driver?03:56
Mezfirepol, then you dont really need to03:56
anaskiusdoes that matter03:56
fdovingfirepol: to make sure all new programs are installed, in new versions new features are added, and old features are removed, kubuntu-desktop and the other meta-packages are there to depend on the new and shiny packages, and to conflict with the old and deprecated packages, that way new packages are installed, and old packages are removed, when you install a meta package.03:57
anaskiusif i dont get my soundcards connections working then i yhink i wont be using linux much03:57
anaskius*think03:58
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dahumpok then here is a nice common newbie problem that I'm sure most of you have encountered. I have my kubuntu box networked with my Windows machine. I can see my windows machine, but whenever I try to access my home folder on the Windows machine it asks for my password. I enter my password and it just asks for it again and again and again. Please tell me what I am doing wrong/03:58
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anaskiusif i have to listen that noise that i hear from the analog connection03:59
firepolfdoving, but if i install kubuntu-desktop now, it will download 200 mb of programs. then afterwards i have to modify sources.list (to dapper) and re-download the dapper versions, thats why im asking03:59
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firepoli prefear to download directly what im already using (dapper version) and then if something doesnt work ill download kubuntu.desktop (when ill be using dapper)03:59
fdovingfirepol: ah, no, that's waste. I'd suggest dist-upgrading to dapper first, without installing kubuntu-desktop.03:59
intelikeywhy does kde make a /root dir and add links  "cache-zeos486 -> /var/tmp/kdecache-root    socket-zeos486 -> /tmp/ksocket-root    tmp-zeos486 -> /tmp/kde-root"  ?   isn't that just plain stupid?    sepecally when /root is not anybodies home dir  ???04:00
firepolso why is it written in the documentation to make sure "kubuntu-desktop" is installed first?04:00
firepolthe guide is guiding to waste downlaod and time04:00
janneyes04:00
janneit is..04:00
firepolhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades04:00
fdovingfirepol: not if you're using a full kubuntu system.04:00
jannea few days ago i lost my dapper cds.04:01
firepol;)04:01
jannei made a breezy server install04:01
Mezjanne: I've only got 6 kubuntu dapper CDs :P04:01
anaskiusso you are not willing to help me??...thats okay ill try to solve the problem myself then and probably mess my system totally04:01
kbrooksjanne: no need for these dapper cds04:01
Mezlol - and they were the ones I nicked at the end of LRL04:01
janneupgraded to dapper an installed gnome04:01
kbrooksanaskius: ddont04:01
kbrooksanaskius: jus give up.04:01
max ???04:01
anaskiuswhy should i give up04:01
kbrooksmax: #kubuntu-ru04:01
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kbrooksanaskius: Because its a very complicated process.04:02
firepolanaskius why dont u buy a new soundcard for a few bucks?04:02
anaskiusif thats a linux driver then i dont understand why you cant install it?04:02
anaskiusdont use bucks04:02
anaskiuslol04:02
firepoluse dolars then ;)04:02
firepolor euros04:02
Mezmax: try #kubuntu-ru or #ubuntu-ru04:03
anaskiusdont use em neither04:03
kbrooksanaskius: It is a linux driver, but this is kubuntu04:03
anaskiuseuros sound fine04:03
firepolthen use a pistol and steal it ;)04:03
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kbrooksanaskius: What sound card do you have?04:03
anaskiusand kubuntu aint no linux=04:03
intelikey"<kbrooks> anaskius: It is a linux driver, but this is kubuntu"   say what ?04:03
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Mezkubuntu = a distribution based on GNU/Linux04:03
anaskiusrealtek alc850 i think04:04
kbrooksanaskius: it is based on linux, BUT kubuntu has package management that you want to use.04:04
MitchM"<kbrooks> anaskius: It is a linux driver, but this is kubuntu"   say what ?04:04
solus_hey everyone, anyone with a knowledge of 6.06 and monitor problems would be great to talk to at the moment, lol04:04
Mezkbrooks: you dont always have to use it04:04
kbrooksanaskius: Does it work? Did you test sound?04:04
jorikdon't you people know nothing ?! dapper uses the OpenBSD kernel instead of Linus'04:04
dahumpanone know aof a linux app that will play wma files?04:04
jorik;)04:04
intelikeymez   errr actually   kubuntu = a distrobution of GNU/linux04:04
Mezsolus_, for monitor problems, you might get a quicker answer in #ubuntu04:04
solus_thanks so much mez04:04
Mezjorik: lol - no - that would be incorrect04:04
anaskiusworks fine with analog connections but not with digital ones04:04
Mezsolus_, there are more people in there - and monitor problems is a general thing that isnt specific to #kubuntu04:05
kbrooksanaskius: Why do you want digital connections?04:05
kbrooks!fixres04:05
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:05
Healotthen, you need the realtek release, anaskius04:05
kbrooksAs well.04:05
anaskiusfor better sound04:05
solus_yeah, but this is the channel i have my irc auto open into, lol04:05
redbladesfdoving: done, sorry, I was helping a windows friend :p04:05
Mezanaskius, have you checked whether the digital outputs are working,m just dont have the volume turned up on them ?04:05
anaskiusi have it on my compuiter04:05
solus_and some really ncie people helped my last time04:05
anaskiusnever found no switches for em04:06
fdovingredblades: then try again.04:06
Mezsolus_, if you're using konversaiton, the reason you come here is my fauly04:06
Mezanaskius, have you tried kmixer ?04:06
anaskiusand my amp dont show that its connected04:06
redbladesfdoving: Okay, I can do the no-X thing now, but konsole still gives an error.04:06
anaskiusno04:06
solus_i am, and its ok, i like the people who are usually in here04:06
fdovingredblades: what's the konsole error?04:06
anaskiusnever found that neither04:07
redbladesfdoving: depends on how I open it, from within terminal:04:07
anaskiuskmix found it04:07
redbladesfdoving:04:07
redbladesFailed to open device04:07
redbladesScimInputContextPlugin()04:07
redbladeskonsole: WARNING: Unable to open a pseudo teletype!04:07
redbladesUh oh.. can't get terminal attributes..04:07
redbladesEct04:07
anaskiusbut now i need to mount my windows partition for some music04:07
redbladesetc04:07
Kiongkuzzzzzzzzzz04:07
fdovingredblades: oh..04:08
redbladesfdoving: the other way, by clciking the icon,04:08
redbladesFailed to open device04:08
redbladesScimInputContextPlugin()04:08
redbladeskonsole: WARNING: Unable to open a pseudo teletype!04:08
redbladesUh oh.. can't get terminal attributes..04:08
anaskiusklongku dont sleep..am i boring you?04:08
intelikeyredblades you trying to run konsole from console ?04:08
kbrooksanaskius: Um, hes going to bed04:08
redbladesI tried it, but that wasn't the first thing I di.04:08
redbladesWhy?04:08
kbrooksanaskius: no one is boring him.04:08
intelikeyredblades koncole requires X04:09
redbladesI ahev X04:09
anaskiusis there a guide how to mount windows on kubuntu somewhere?04:09
redbladeshave X04:09
redbladesI'm in Konversation...04:09
intelikeytry konsole -display :004:09
kbrooksintelikey: no psuedo TTY04:09
anaskiuswont get rid of windows not yet04:09
redbladeskonsole: '<displayname>' missing.04:09
kbrooksanaskius: We dont care about that04:10
kbrooksthe forums do ;)04:10
redbladesI'm very anxious to get konsole working.04:10
anaskiusso do you know how i can mount windows04:10
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firepolanaskous: mount or use windows?04:10
mohello04:10
kbrooksfirepol: mount04:11
anaskiusi need a link for some guide that tells me how to do that04:11
firepolto moutn a partition its quite easy: mount /dev/hdaXX (where xx is the number of the partitino u want to mount) destinationfolder /e.g. /mnt/windows)04:11
redbladeskbrooks, intelikey, fdoving: So, any ideas?04:11
firepol(u have to create the destinatinfolder first)04:11
kbrooksfirepol: not helpful.04:11
kbrooksanaskius: #ubuntu-classroom04:11
fdovingredblades: you can try 'konsole -e /bin/sh'04:11
firepolin my case, my windows partitino is the first hard drive. so /dev/hda104:11
anaskiusokay i think i found a guide to do that allready04:12
Kiongku.. anyone ever tried to compile amarok?04:12
Kiongku!info ruby1.804:12
uboturuby1.8: Interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby 1.8. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.4-1ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 183 kB, installed size 268 kB04:12
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anaskiusi only have one harddrive04:12
kbrooksanaskius: FEEL FREE to leave #ubuntu-classroom :-)04:12
anaskiusokay04:12
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mo hi, i have a question about updated kernels, can i delete theold config, initrd, vmlinuz files from the old kernes?04:15
moor are they still nescessary?04:15
fdovingmo: i suggest removing the old kernels with the package manager.04:15
mook04:15
fdovingmo: keeping one as a backup might be smart.04:15
pavihi how to install gaim in kubuntu04:15
kbrooksanaskius: hang on04:16
Kiongkumo: is it an updated official kernel?04:16
ccc_pavi: sudo apt-get install gaim04:16
fdovingpavi: open Adept package manager and search for and install gaim.04:16
mofdoving: yes your right04:16
moKiongku: yes, from adept04:16
redbladesfdoving: okay, well that works, and even if I try "konsole -e /bin/bash" it works, with the pretty colours, etc, but it actually gives an error anyway!04:16
ccc_pavi: but i recommend kopete instead :)04:16
pavino idont like kopete04:17
Kiongkumo: well usually the official kernel should be alright.. and can remove older ones. in theory04:17
redbladesI do04:17
moKiongku: ok i use adept for it04:17
redbladesI'm using kopete for MSN. But Konversation for IRC04:17
Kiongkumo: unless ur like me who tries building custom one.. then :P one as backup is a must04:17
fdovingredblades: it's because you somehow have messed up your default shell, i think if you logout and log back in. that might help. as you have changed the shell back to /bin/bash with chsh already.04:17
jorikkopete has [better]  kde integration, but it only supports MSN, i like gaim cuz it does jabber too04:17
ccc_jorik: kopete does jabber04:17
redbladesOh... I'll try04:17
redbladesbrb all!04:17
moKiongku: ok, i will trie this if i have some years of experience04:17
jorikFO REAL ?!04:17
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ccc_jorik: of course04:17
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kbloghi04:17
pavihey see the result of apt gettin04:18
pavihttp://pastebin.ca/13880404:18
jorikwow coooooool, brb04:18
Kiongkumo: hehe04:18
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Kiongkujorik: the new kopete hates msn.. or it keeps crashin when i run the msn protocol XD04:18
kbloghas anybody an idea how to tell thunderbird that he have to use firefox as standard browser instead of konquerror?04:18
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pavihello04:19
ccc_Kiongku: works fine here on kopete 0.12.104:19
pavianyone there04:19
pavireply04:19
Kiongkuccc_: too bad for me.04:20
pavihello I want solution for gaim and firefox04:21
ccc_Kiongku: ah there's a 0.12.2, i didn't know04:21
pavito b e installed in kubuntu04:21
Mezpavi: sudo apt-get install gaim firefox04:21
mopavi: or use adept04:21
pavihttp://pastebin.ca/13880404:22
pavimo and mez04:22
pavicheck that04:22
paviand firefox needs damn04:22
pavistuff04:22
pavilike gtk04:22
Mezyes - but you just install those too04:23
Kiongkupavi: just install.. its auto04:23
mopavi: sorry i have only a 4 ay experience in kubuntu, all the soft i insatalled was thru adept04:23
Mezah04:23
larson9999anyone here know how to install an ati wonder elite in kubuntu?  or if it's supported even.  i can't find anything that tells me one way or another.  then again i'm not the best googler.04:23
Mezpavi: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list04:23
paviits not workin booh04:23
paviya sure04:23
jorikccc_: big thanks04:23
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Phreakyshello04:24
kbrookshello Phreakys04:24
Phreakysi just installed kubuntu 6.06 on my laptop, now it won't boot up the desktop :/04:24
Phreakyshello kbrooks04:25
anaskiusthank k04:25
HealotCCCC :)04:25
anaskiuss04:25
kbrooksnp anaskius04:25
Phreakysanyone can help me with it?04:25
MezPhreakys, I'm guessing it leaves you at a command line ?04:25
Phreakysmaybe standard resolution is no good?04:25
Phreakysyes04:25
MezPhreakys, login and then do this04:26
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anaskiusnow i must have a smoke..04:26
Mezsudo killall kdm04:26
Mezkdm04:26
Phreakysi booted in the command line now from grub, but im a former windows user and quite new to linux04:26
pavihttp://pastebin.ca/13881804:26
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Mezand that should either give you a nice error message04:26
paviis the sources.list04:26
Mezor boot you into the desktopo04:26
mook, thanx to all of you, cya04:26
Phreakysah tnx04:26
Phreakysill try04:26
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Mezpavi: edit the file - your line that says "#deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted04:27
redbladesfdoving: (and all the other people) thanks! it all works now!04:27
Mez" shouldnt have a "#" at the start04:27
Mezdelete that # then do a sudo apt-get update04:27
Mezand installing should work04:27
fdovingredblades: you're welcome. a logout/login did the trick?04:27
Phreakyshm, i cant login with my standard username /pw i made during the installation :/04:29
Phreakysdo i need to login from root?04:29
Mezuse your username you set up when you installed04:29
kbrooksPhreakys: You cant.04:29
dahumpcan anyone tell me how to upgrade my kubuntu distro using apt?04:29
kbrookshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades04:30
dahumpgee thanks!!04:30
Mez!tell dahump about upgrading04:30
Mez!tell mez about upgrading04:30
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fdoving!upgrading > fdoving04:30
redbladesfdoving: yeah04:30
Mez?04:30
fdovingredblades: great :)04:31
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redbladesSo, now, I need to know how to remove gnome.04:31
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redbladesI can't quite seem to get rid of it properly...04:31
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paviI did that04:33
pavibut not workin04:33
_gpg_from where i can get extra repositories, r from where can i update my /etc/apt/sources.list please04:33
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fdoving!source-o-matic04:34
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:34
fdoving_gpg_: ^^04:34
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kbloghow can i configure thunderbird to open firefox instead of konquerror whenever I klick on a link?04:34
_gpg_fdoving: i found the file for ubuntu but not for kubuntu, are there same ?04:35
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fdoving_gpg_: yes.04:35
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fdovingredblades: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Uninstall_ubuntu-desktop04:35
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anaskiusno signal on the digital connection04:37
Jucatokblog: try to check this thread in the forums: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19451504:38
fdovingkblog: one of the first google hits: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Changing_the_web_browser_invoked_by_Thunderbird04:38
Jucatokblog: and this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6042704:39
redbladesfdoving: but it says about removing firefox... I use firefox, because I prefer the gecko engine (among other reasons)04:39
Rodilthere any way to update the package list without getting online?04:39
fdovingredblades: then i suggest reinstalling firefox afterwards.04:39
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fdovingredblades: that is, if you have the bandwidth to do that.04:39
Phreakyshm ok, i made a root password so i can login (forgot my userpw :S )04:40
eguzkiestoy desesperada con los repositoriooooos04:40
Jucatoit's quite funny that some people who come in the IRC aren't aware of the forums, and some people in the forums aren't aware of (or don't care about) the IRC... @_@04:40
kblogjucato: thanx04:40
Jucatokblog: no problem. be sure to check the 2 thread and the link fdoving gave04:40
Mezeguzki - #ubuntu-es04:40
Jucatothreads*04:40
redbladesfdoving: yep. Anyway, it's only about 10MBisn't it?04:41
Phreakysi typed sudo kdm, anything hangs now04:41
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Healotrun the init script isntead04:42
Healot.. /etc/rc.d/kdm start04:42
fdovingredblades: yes, + some dependencies you also probably need to re-install. don't know how much that would be, but if you're not on isdn/analogue it's not a problem.04:42
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Phreakyswill try, tnx healot04:42
redbladesk04:42
Healotdon't try it, Phreakys , not good for health04:43
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Jucatoerr.... I have a tooltip that won't go away... @_@04:43
leppardshi can anyone point me to a repository from where I can install e17. I tried the one from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216 but it doesnt work04:44
_gpg_Is it possible to change the look of kbuntu when it starts (when it loaeds mondules) ?04:44
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Jucatowhen I mouse-overed (or is it moused-over) KTorrent in system tray, it displayed a tooltip with information. But now the tooltip won't go away. it's stuck to the screen...04:44
Jucatooh nvm04:45
Jucatoquitting KTorrent did it...04:45
Jucatothat was weird,though...04:45
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Healot_gpg_, the splash screen eh04:45
Healot!usplash04:46
ubotuusplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto04:46
djclue917is there any way of integrating KBFX into KXDocker?04:46
Jucatoone of the hardest things to make and change... USplash... T_T04:46
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Phreakyshm, could it be possible that kde's resolution is invalid, so i dont get a screen? and if so, where can i change the default resolution from commandline?04:46
fdoving!xconf04:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xconf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:46
Healotsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:46
fdoving!xconfig04:46
ubotuxconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"04:46
Healotor call 1-800-ILL-BE-THERE04:47
Phreakyswill try ;)04:47
Jucatolol04:47
Phreakyssweet, it detects my x70004:47
_gpg_Healot: not the splash, but he screen when it kbuntu loads befor displaying the popup "longin passwd"04:48
Phreakysomg, videocard bus identifier? :/04:48
_gpg_Healot: when it sais mounting ntfs OK, etc04:48
Healot_gpg_, checkout kde-looks.org04:48
Jucato_gpg_: that is USplash04:48
_gpg_Jucato: we can change it ?04:49
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Healot!usplash04:49
ubotuusplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto04:49
Healotas follows04:49
Jucatowe can. but from my experience, it isn't that easy04:49
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Jucatothere are only 3 USplash themes available from KDE-Look.org, last time I checked04:49
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Healotmy one cent, if you have no purpose than rather cosmetics, you don't have to change the splash04:50
Jucatoehehehe04:50
Jucatomaybe we don't HAVE to, but some would certainly WANT to... :-D04:50
redbladesfdoving: Aghhh!!!! It's removing KDE things too!!04:50
Healotor you'll get the greatest pain in your behind04:51
Jucatowhich shouldn't be, right?04:51
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fdovingredblades: write down the package names, and re-install afterwards.04:51
Phreakysdamn04:51
Phreakysnothing04:51
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JucatoSplashy is a bootsplash theme, but it's easy to change (and lots of themes too)04:51
redbladesI'll just reinstall kubuntu-desktop again. Bah. I'm annoyed though.04:51
Phreakysmaybe kubuntu-desktop is easier to handle than the alternate version?04:52
redbladesWell, yeah04:52
redbladesWhat do you mean... ?04:52
Phreakyshm, i installed the alternate package, but it won't initiate the kdm desktop04:53
Dr_Williseye candy...04:53
Phreakysjust a blank screen04:53
redblades...04:54
redbladesWhy is that hard?04:54
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Phreakysi have no clue. i just followed the installation procedures, and end up with this screen. maybe it's giving problems because im installing on a widescreen laptop04:56
Healothuh04:56
Phreakysreloaded the x setup though, and selected the right resolutions :/04:56
Healotfollow exactly as?04:56
Healotdifferent monitor has different refresh rate, change according to yours, not in the example, for F sake :)04:57
Phreakyswell, did everything according to the normal setup procedure without errors04:57
Phreakysok, will retry the setup04:57
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Dr_WillisOn one of my laptops - the wide screen did not get seen/set right res untull i installed the ati drivers.04:58
rzeiis anyone here using relakks?04:59
rzeior using a pptp connection? i could use some routing advice04:59
anaskiusis there such thing as 64 bit java?04:59
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anaskiusor should i say java runtime enviroment05:00
paviI couldnt install bot firefox or05:00
pavigaim05:00
rzeimy problem is that i think i have everything set up correctly, i just am not getting anything back from my ppp005:01
paviI have  given error report05:01
pavineither could05:01
paviI do05:01
paviwith sources.list05:01
rzeiyou don't happen to be italian?05:01
anaskiushow can i get mp3 codecs?05:02
Jucato!mp305:02
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:02
anaskiusokay05:02
Jucatoanaskius: you can use this guide in adding the Multiverse repository: https://help.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html05:03
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drak-angelhey05:05
drak-angelsup05:05
MitchMhi05:05
Phreakyshm trying to setup horizontal sync range, but i have no clue what it is for this laptop :/05:05
drak-angelhey05:05
tw|stedhi, has anyone of you ever installed gyachE on dapper?05:06
_gpg_from where i can install kdeveloppe?05:06
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drak-angel:\05:06
_gpg_kdevelop05:06
drak-angelwhat do u guys talk bout in here any way05:06
drak-angel ?05:06
Jucato!info kdevelop05:06
ubotuPackage kdevelop does not exist in dapper05:06
Hawkwind_gpg_: sudo apt-get install kdevelop305:07
Hawkwind!info kdevelop305:07
ubotukdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB05:07
Jucatooh05:07
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Jucatolol it's kdevelop3 @_@05:07
drak-angel&_&05:07
Jucatodrak-angel: support channel for Kubuntu05:07
_gpg_ty05:07
drak-angel:\?05:08
waspiusi downloaded and installed a desktop manager but it wount work..i need to put somewhere ~/.xresources...does anyone know where?05:08
_gpg_i forgot to do sudo apt-get update :))05:08
Hawkwindwaspius: What desktop manager ?05:08
_gpg_!info svn05:08
ubotuPackage svn does not exist in dapper05:08
waspiusHawkwind: fvwm crystal05:08
drak-angeljucato:what05:08
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Hawkwindwaspius: Why not just sudo apt-get install fvwm   ?05:09
Hawkwinddrak-angel: This channel is a help/support channel for the Kubuntu Linux distro.  Do you have a question concerning Kubuntu ?05:09
Jucato <drak-angel> what do u guys talk bout in here any way <--- this is the Support (IRC) Channel for Kubuntu. we talk about Kubuntu-related support inquiries/questions05:10
tw|stedubotu: the package is called subversion i think05:10
drak-angelo05:10
drak-angelok05:10
waspiusHawkwind: i did not know if it would find it05:10
Jucatotw|sted: you are right05:10
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Jucato!info subversion05:10
ubotusubversion: advanced version control system (aka. svn). In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.1-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 3016 kB05:10
PensacolaI'm having trouble configuring my sound card to work with my tv card can anyone help me?05:10
Hawkwindwaspius: You should always check by doing:  apt-cache search package-name05:10
tw|stedtalking to bot how great :/05:10
Jucatoehehe05:11
waspiusHawkwind: i did not know that05:11
Hawkwindwaspius: You can find out if a package exists by doing that.  In your case, apt-cache search fvwm  would have answered your question05:11
Jucato_gpg_: was the one looking for it, btw05:11
anaskiusits a hard job getting everything to work in kubuntu..letd hope its worth it05:11
drak-angelis that all  talk bout05:11
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drak-angelis that all u talk bout05:11
=== Dr_Willis has few problems getting things to work. :P it all depends on your hardware
waspiusHawkwind: ok i will have that in mind..thank you05:11
Jucatowaspius: you could also try typing in "apt:/" in Konqueror. Nice little GUI for apt-cache05:11
ninHerhi everybody05:11
Hawkwinddrak-angel: That's what the channel is for05:11
drak-angelo yea05:11
Jucatodrak-angel: considering that's the purpose of the channel, yes05:11
waspiusJucato: i will check thanx05:12
drak-angellol :) right05:12
Jucato#kubuntu-offtopic is supposed to be the place for non-support related stuff, whether they be related to Kubuntu or not05:12
anaskiusdrak-angel this aint no chat!!05:12
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drak-angelyea i know that ant that dum05:13
anaskiusor your regular irc channel05:13
anaskiusi thought you were05:13
Jucatoeasy now...05:13
drak-angellol fever funny05:13
Ash-Fox!ati05:13
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:13
drak-angelreally i thought i was to05:13
drak-angelnot!!!!!!05:14
anaskiusbtw is your nick speeled correctly or dont i know what drak means..probably dont05:14
Jucatoguys, chill!!05:14
anaskiusspelled sorry05:14
_gpg_!info subversion05:14
ubotusubversion: advanced version control system (aka. svn). In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.1-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 3016 kB05:14
drak-angelduh i know that to05:14
anaskiusim cool..just asker05:14
anaskiusasked05:15
drak-angelright05:15
fdovingdrak-angel, anaskius: please take this offtopic conversation to #kubuntu-offtopic05:15
anaskiusaint no topic05:15
anaskiusjust kidding05:16
fdovingthat's the point, it certainly has nothing to do with Kubuntu support.05:16
kbrooksanaskius: "kubuntu support channel"05:16
anaskiusi know05:16
kbrookschat != support05:16
drak-angelreally05:16
kbrooks!= = is not05:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is not - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:16
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anaskiushe or she doesnt05:16
drak-angeldoesnt what05:16
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anaskiusjust stop that now please..no need to continue05:17
drak-angel alright i guess i could stop was going to leave any way tell u said some thing but me leaving any ways05:18
ubuntu? mepis, kubuntu live cd works, ubuntu doesnt in pcs05:18
drak-angeli need some thing to talk bout so peace out05:18
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drak-angelttyl05:18
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waggle7622frackAnyone good with networking\samba? My KDE system cant access network shares unless I use sudo smb4k.05:20
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__osh__waggle7622frack: what does the samba-log say?05:22
waggle7622frackjust a sec, lettme check05:22
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waggle7622fracknever had a problem in gnome05:23
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LeeJunFansamba works great until you try to use it with windows - ironic.05:23
Dr_Willisit works great with windows for me..05:23
cozomohow would I allocate more CPU to a certain process05:24
waggle7622frackworks from xp to kde but not kde to anything05:24
Dr_Willisthe thing to rember is that theres different 'ways' to access the shares.. smb4k scans the network and then mounts the shares with smbmnt,  the kde/gnome de's sort of browse the shares and get the info on the flu.05:24
Dr_Willison the fly,  i mean.05:24
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LeeJunFanwaggle7622frack: how are you trying to access stuff from kde? using smb://machinename or ip/ ?05:25
Dr_Williswaggle7622frack,  but you say it works with smb4k - so its working. :P05:25
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_gpg_:info apache205:25
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ubotuapache2: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 80 kB05:25
waggle7622frackbut only sudo smb4k not any other way05:26
LeeJunFanwaggle7622frack: you probably have to use sudo so it can call smbmount as root. You can also chmod +s smbmount. Which used to be standard practice to allow users to mount their own samba shares.05:27
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tw|stedapaches package size is impressive ^^05:27
mcmorrodwho wants o see my lesbian cock05:27
mcmorrodhands up ppl05:27
newtothiswhy can i use add/remove programs in ubuntu to update to spanish but in kubuntu no?05:27
_gpg_how to give to user the priviledge to use sudo ? (sudo adduser toto)05:27
mcmorrodn cocks too05:27
Hawkwind!ops05:27
ubotuHelp! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak05:27
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__osh__mcmorrod: If she isn't a cook, don't bother.05:28
waggle7622frackwow, thats a new one to me i'll try that real quick05:28
Hawkwindmcmorrod: Please take that junk elsewhere05:28
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Hawkwindfdoving: Ahhh, thanks05:28
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fdoving:)05:28
paviunable to install xine codecs05:28
pavihttp://pastebin.ca/13891905:28
fdoving_gpg_: 'sudo adduser username admin'05:29
fdoving_gpg_: that will add the user 'username' to the group 'admin'.05:29
_gpg_ty05:29
pavihello05:29
pavianyone reply05:29
D4rklyhi has anyone got wine working with the -opengl switch ? i can get it to work without opengl but not with ??05:29
LeeJunFanwaggle7622frack: That may actually be smbmnt you want to chmod, not smbmount.05:30
newtothispavi: hello05:30
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LeeJunFanwaggle7622frack: yeah, man smbmnt says: A setuid smbmnt will only allow mounts on directories owned by the user, and that the user has write permission on.05:31
paviya05:31
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waggle7622frackyeah I should of noticed that. thanks.05:31
larson9999D4rkly: is that a compile open?05:32
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LeeJunFanwaggle7622frack: using konqueror I normally get to my shares by entering an smb:// url in the location. ie. smb://192.168.51.3/  to get to my network printer/scanner05:32
Hawkwindpavi: sudo apt-get install libxine1-extracodecs05:32
Ace123456!pastebin05:33
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:33
pavi Couldn't find package libxine1-extracodecs05:33
Hawkwindpavi: Do you have all the sources enabled like Multiverse and Universe ?05:33
Hawkwind!info libxine-extracodecs05:33
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB05:33
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pavicheck my dources.list file05:34
pavihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2109705:34
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Hawkwindpavi: You need to enable Multiverse05:35
Hawkwind!repos > pavi05:35
LeeJunFanpavi: on line 22,23 add the word multiverse after universe05:35
tw|stedHawk: i think it is enabled ;)05:35
Hawkwindtw|sted: No it's not05:35
tw|stedah, only for backports05:36
tw|stedsry05:36
paviok05:36
pavidoin so05:36
pavidone05:36
pavibut05:36
pavisame error05:36
pavinot able to install gaim05:36
CVirusmsn is that ?05:36
LeeJunFanpavi: no run 'sudo apt-get update' then try again.05:37
tw|stedpav: sudo apt-get update ?05:37
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LeeJunFanpavi: you have to run apt-get update to get it to refetch the available package list now that you've enabled multiverse.05:37
paviY a          done  that05:37
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Jucatoer... I never knew uniq was fdoving....05:37
pavicheck05:38
pavihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2110005:38
Hawkwindpavi: It's just sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs05:39
LeeJunFanpavi: yeah, drop the 105:39
tw|stedremove the 105:39
tw|stedi'm way too slow ;)05:39
HawkwindJucato: Heh.  I was trying to figure out how he responded so quick when the nick 'fdoving' wasn't on the ops list05:39
pavidependencies05:40
fdovingJucato: yeah.. trying to convert to fdoving now, as that's what i use on forums and everywhere..05:40
pavihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2110105:40
fdovingHawkwind: trying to edit the ops list now.. that's why i change nicks.05:40
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waggle7622frackbummer, gotta try latter, thanks for the help.05:41
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D4rklyif i want to put this in my xorg.conf Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true" do i include the word 'option' ? and where do i put this line ?05:41
Jucatoeheh05:41
HawkwindD4rkly: Option         "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"05:42
LeeJunFan!info libmad005:42
ubotulibmad0: MPEG audio decoder library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.15.1b-2.1 (dapper), package size 75 kB, installed size 160 kB05:42
HawkwindD4rkly: Put it under the 'Screen' section05:42
D4rklyok05:42
D4rklyso i include the word Option ?05:42
HawkwindD4rkly: Yes.  Just like you see in your xorg.conf05:42
paviok05:43
LeeJunFanpavi: you have main turned off - uncomment line 4 from sources.list05:43
LeeJunFanpavi: then apt-get update again05:43
paviok05:43
pavioh05:43
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waspiusHawkwind: i installed fvwm but it wount load..i think i need to remove the fvwm-crystal that i had installed previously or something..05:47
leolinuxoie05:47
HawkwindWhat errors do you get when it tries to start ?05:48
waspiusHawkwind: know what i might be able to do?05:48
waspiusHawkwind: i dont get any...it goes to load and it stays stuck05:48
leolinuxim brazilian05:48
leolinuxim testing kubuntu05:48
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Hawkwindwaspius: Try removing the other stuff you installed previously then05:49
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waspiusHawkwind: i tried apt-get remove fvwm-crystal but it cannot find it05:49
Hawkwindwaspius: How did you install it ?05:50
Hawkwindwaspius: I thought you said you downloaded it and compiled it05:50
waspiusHawkwind: yes05:50
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Kiongkuhey guys.. how to rename a folder by console?05:51
waspiusHawkwind: is there any way i can find it?05:51
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HawkwindKiongku: mv /old/directory /new/directory05:51
Dr_WillisHmm..  time to toy with skype05:52
Dr_Willis!skype05:52
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto05:52
Hawkwindwaspius: Delete all the files/directories it created05:52
Hawkwindwaspius: Or, go into the directory the .tar file created, and do make uninstall05:52
waspiusHawkwind: you mean the file created after extract?05:53
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Hawkwindwaspius: Yes05:53
Hawkwindwaspius: Try make uninstall or possibly sudo make uninstall05:53
waspiusHawkwind: ok i will try05:53
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CVirushow can I make kmixer start on KDE launch ?05:56
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JucatoCVirus: go to ~/.kde/Autostart05:56
Jucatoright-click, Create New > Link to URL05:57
Jucatothen in the "Enter link to location", put "/usr/bin/kmix" (without the quotes)05:57
CVirusJucato: Thanks alot05:58
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Jucatosure05:58
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zippyhi05:58
zippyeveryone05:58
MitchMHello05:58
Jucatohi05:58
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zippynice to meet you05:58
CVirus!05:59
CVirusasl plz ?05:59
CVirus:-p05:59
BluesKajHowdy all :)05:59
zippysomeone speak french please ? if it possible05:59
Jucato!fr05:59
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:59
CVirus!ar05:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:59
zippyok merci beaucoup :)05:59
Jucatothere might be some french people, here, though... ^_^06:00
zippyyes i think too06:00
BluesKajadded a new TV tuner card to my pc ...what's the cmd for kubuntu to recognize it so i can install the right drivers etc ?06:00
BluesKajATI TV Wonder Pro06:01
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Dr_Williswell - i hate to tell ya some bad news... :P06:03
Dr_Willisbut that tv tuner may not be very well supported.. if at all.06:03
BluesKajok ...it doesn't show up in the hardware list06:04
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BluesKajprolly run in wine but I think i'll just use it in windows ...just thought I'd ask06:06
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harrykann mir wer sagen wie ich auf quakenet komme wr ein feiner zug06:06
BluesKaj!de06:06
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de06:06
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jasondotgnuWhen I get to install xgl on kubuntu, I got this:06:07
jasondotgnuSection "Extensions"06:07
jasondotgnu Option "Composite" "Enable"06:07
jasondotgnu EndSection06:07
jasondotgnusorry, wrong paste06:08
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jasondotgnucompiz-kde: Depends: compiz (= 0.0.2-4ubuntu2) but 0.0.13-0quinn32 is to be in06:08
jasondotgnustalled06:08
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jasondotgnuhow can this dependency problem fixed?06:08
CVirusKweather never works ?06:09
JucatoCVirus: what do you mean by "never works"?06:10
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CVirusit never worked for me06:11
CVirusJucato: neither with KDE installed on my desktop nor my laptop06:11
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CVirusJucato: it says Unkown station06:11
CVirusUknown*06:11
JucatoCVirus: have you tried changing the station?06:11
CVirusJucato: cant find any others06:11
CVirusJucato: I tried with a state in the USA and still didnt want to work06:12
HawkwindCVirus: Add a second station then check to see if the first one is working06:12
JucatoCVirus: that's strange, it always works for me. Although I had to manually add my country's airport code06:12
CVirusJucato: where are its conf files ?06:13
JucatoCVirus: it should be in /usr/share/apps/kweatherstation or something like that06:13
CViruswill see06:13
Jucatobut before you go adding things manually (it can be quite tedious), you might want to check if other stations are working06:14
JucatoI'm installing KWeather to verify06:14
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JucatoCVirus: what station were you trying?06:17
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CVirusJucato: there are no stations in the list06:19
CVirusJucato: I'm trying Cross City airport station06:20
JucatoCVirus: no stations when you right-click on KWeather > Configure KWeather > Weather Service options?06:20
CVirusJucato: ahh06:21
CVirusi thought the other one06:21
CVirusJucato: well .. I tried Cairo and didnt work06:21
CVirusJucato: trying Cross City and didnt work oo06:21
CVirustooU06:21
CVirustoo*06:21
JucatoCVirus: let me try Cairo06:21
CVirusits under africa .. not middle east06:22
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JucatoCVirus: of course, Cairo is in Egypt :-D06:22
JucatoCairo works for me06:22
CViruswhich is weird06:22
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JucatoCVirus: try this:06:23
CVirusJucato: Cairo is in africa and its part of the middle east06:23
JucatoActually, Africa is a continent of its own06:23
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Jucato"middle east" refers to the Asian countries.06:23
CVirusi meant cairo is part of the middle east06:23
CVirusahh06:23
Jucatoanyway...06:23
willardHi guys, could someone help me with a slight problem?06:23
willardtotal newb here06:24
Hawkwindwillard: Just ask your question06:24
JucatoCVirus: pick Cairo, then click on Add.06:24
CVirusJucato: okay ?06:24
JucatoCVirus: then click on Update All, and wait for the question mark to disappear06:24
willardI'm dual booting xp and ubutu and set up a fat32 partition, but it won't mount as uhbutu boots up06:24
willardI tried to set it to mount to /share06:25
CVirusJucato: as soon as I clicked it disappeared06:25
D4rklysudo -t vfat /dev/<drive> /mnt06:25
JucatoCVirus: ok, now click on OK to close the window, and right-click again on KWeather and choose COnfigure KWeather06:25
D4rklylol06:25
willardwill that make it permanent?06:25
D4rklysudo mount -t vfat /dev/<drive> /mnt06:25
HawkwindUmmmm06:25
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willardsorry, total newb here - installed last night06:26
Jucatodoesn't Ubuntu use /media, not /mnt, by default?06:26
Hawkwindwillard: Not unless you add it to your /etc/fstab06:26
HawkwindJucato: It has both06:26
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HawkwindJucato: But when manually mounting something, you can mount wherever you want06:26
willardyes, it works that way06:26
D4rklyyeah you can use media06:26
CVirusJucato: now ?06:26
D4rklycreate a dir in there first06:26
JucatoHawkwind: yeah, I just noticed that the default is /media06:26
JucatoCVirus: then in the Display options (the one on top of Weather Service), you can choose Cairo Airport from the drop-down list06:27
willardcan someone walk me through editing /etc/fstab?06:27
Hawkwindwillard: sudo mkdir /mnt/windows && sudo mount -t auto /dev/hdx /mnt/windows   Replace 'hdx' with the actual device number06:27
JucatoCVirus: Location: <drop-down list>06:27
JucatoCVirus: then click on Apply, then OK. KWeather will be working06:27
Hawkwindwillard: Worry about getting it mounted first, then you can do your fstab06:27
willardit is mounted at the moment06:27
D4rklyyou need -t vfat for fat3206:28
CVirusJucato: I choose cairo airport but when i click ok and open that window again ... it goes back to cross blah airport06:28
CVirusJucato: cross cit06:28
CViruscity*06:28
JucatoCVirus: did you click on Apply before clicking on OK?06:28
Hawkwindwillard: Is this a windows drive you will be booting to or just have files on ?06:28
HawkwindD4rkly: No you don't06:28
willardit just has some files - music & docs06:28
willardparted says its partition 406:29
CVirusJucato: lemme try that06:29
HawkwindD4rkly: That's for things like usb sticks and such.  -t auto is for actual partitions on a harddrive06:29
CVirusJucato: I clicked ok without apply .. let me try06:29
KiongkuHawkwind: do u know how often the repos of ubuntu get refreshed?06:29
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Hawkwindwillard: Type: mount   and paste the results to pastebin.ca06:29
_gpg_hi again :)06:29
willardin the console? ok06:29
HawkwindKiongku: Can be several times per day I'm sure06:29
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Hawkwindwillard: Yes06:29
_gpg_i cant run adept installer (it freezes the last run) and i'm having this popup (i rebooted my pc) :06:30
Hawkwindwillard: Then visit http://pastebin.ca and paste the info there and give us the resulting URL06:30
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willardok06:30
CVirusJucato: cross city airport doesnt want to leave the menu .. and cairo airport disappeared06:30
JucatoKiongku: the ubuntu servers or our local apt cache?06:30
_gpg_Annother process is using the packaging system database, please close other appliation before using this one !!06:30
willardok06:30
JucatoCVirus: did you click on Update All after you Added Cairo?06:31
CVirusyes06:31
KiongkuJucato: the servers.. bcoz i wanted a better version of amarok06:31
Jucatooh06:31
CVirusJucato: cairo airport appeared now again :D06:31
HawkwindKiongku: What version do you have currently ?06:31
JucatoKiongku: what version are you using now?06:31
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KiongkuHawkwind: none.. compiling 1.4.2beta1 right now06:31
Jucatooh06:32
HawkwindKiongku: Why ?  What do you need 1.4.2 for ?06:32
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JucatoI guess 1.4.2 is still beta = unstable06:32
KiongkuHawkwind: i want to see if collection recognises wma.. by any chance06:32
HawkwindKiongku: Wouldn't it say in the changelog if it supports wma yet ?06:32
willard"/dev/sda4 on /shared type vfat (rw)" is the one I would like to have mounted this way at boot06:32
KiongkuJucato: well its not like the kernel :P bad = kicked out06:32
KiongkuHawkwind: my bad XD.. i think ur right06:33
JucatoKiongku: now, but beta = unstalbe = could crash your system :-D06:33
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KiongkuHawkwind: it was an experience though.. i went high and low to look for the devel packages06:33
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KiongkuJucato: bah.. i became so used to rebuild the system.. can come back online in less than 2 hrs XD06:33
Jucatolol06:34
willardhttp://pastebin.ca/13901706:34
JucatoI get tired of doing that after a while, specially since I have customized a lot on my system06:34
JucatoCVirus: is it working now?06:34
dr_willisheck - i got issues with some parts of dapper still. :)06:34
CVirusJucato: not yet06:34
KiongkuJucato: lol.. i'm on the saem road as u.. well at least u will know if its safe or not :p06:34
Jucatohaha!06:34
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Jucatobut I don't compile stuff (yet)06:35
faked_how do I install a .tar.bz2 file?06:35
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faked_I know it's an archive or something but everything i DL that needs to be installed comes in a .tar.bz2 and I dunno how to install anything06:35
Hawkwindwillard: To add an NTFS Windows partition to your /etc/fstab file it *should* look like this:  /dev/sda4 /media/windows  vfat nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       006:35
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Hawkwindwillard: Try using something like that in your fstab for your drive and see if it will mount on boot or not06:36
willardthis partition is fat3206:36
JucatoCVirus: I'm stumped...06:36
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willardsda4 is the one I want06:37
Hawkwindwillard: I know.  Hence the line says vfat06:37
willardahh, ok, LOL06:37
Hawkwindwillard: I put NTFS in the beginning by accident06:37
Kiongkuhey guys.. whats libfam.la ?06:37
faked_how do I install a .tar.bz2 file?06:37
dr_willis!info libfam06:37
ubotuPackage libfam does not exist in dapper06:37
dr_willis!info libfam-dev06:37
ubotulibfam-dev: client library to control the FAM daemon - development files. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.0-8ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 36 kB, installed size 148 kB06:37
jpatrick!compiling06:37
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:37
willardok - how do I edit this file now?06:37
jpatrick^fak06:38
jpatrickfaked_: ^06:38
Jucatowhoa! jpatrick jumped to life :-D06:38
dr_willishttp://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume06:38
KiongkuHawkwind: if i try to install libfam.. it wants to remove adep,etc :S06:38
dr_willisfor all your ntfs needs - bookmark that page06:38
jpatrickJucato: \o/06:38
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Jucatolol I'm still here!06:38
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root__hello06:39
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Hawkwindwillard: kdesu kwrite /etc/fstab06:39
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phreakyshi06:39
Hawkwindwillard: Replace kwrite with your favorite editor of choice06:39
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dr_williswowsers. :P06:39
phreakysmanaged to fix the monitor problem by following the ati instructions on the kubuntu guid06:39
phreakyse06:39
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phreakyswould like to have wireless on my laptop now, using wireless assistant. it connects fine, but i cant ping the computer neither visit any website06:40
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dr_williscant ping internet sites like www.google.com --> dns server set wrong .. cant ping them by IP --> gateway is set wrong06:41
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dr_williscant ping machines on the local lan --> network card not set up right. perhaps.06:41
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phreakysyea, probably. it did detect the right type on setup allready though06:41
D4rklydr try ifconfig06:42
dr_willisive also seen wireless cards show they were connected.. but not actually conneted. :P06:42
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phreakyshm06:42
faked_I read the page on compiling but I don't understand it06:42
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willardhmm, will not let me save changes to /etc/fstab06:43
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dr_willisfaked_,  theres dozens of articals/examples/docs.. it also depends on what you are compiling.. in short.. untar/gz the archive, cd to it.. ./configure, make, make install06:44
D4rklywillard you need to open it using sudo kate /etc/fstab06:44
willardahh, ok06:44
faked_but when I run "make install"06:45
D4rklymake sure to press enter after the last line so there is a 1 blank line under the last line06:45
faked_it returns "make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop."06:45
D4rklyotherwise fstab wont execute06:45
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willardsudo gedit /etc/fstab06:45
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dr_willisfaked_,  sounbds like ya need to read the isntall docs for the program then.   - does 'make' work?06:45
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faked_make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.06:46
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willardsudo kate /etc/fstab  does not work06:46
ninHer_hi all06:46
willardkate is ?06:46
D4rklyoh i use kate06:46
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Jucatokdesu kate /etc/fstab06:46
Jucato!kdesu06:46
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo06:46
Hawkwindwillard: I did mention kdesu kwrite /etc/fstab and *not* sudo kwrite /etc/fstab for a reason06:47
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willardcommand not found06:48
dr_willispick some OTHER editor then willard06:49
faked_Goddammit i come here for help and you refer me to the docs don't help so I come back here, and I'm ignored.06:49
Jucatokate...06:49
willardgedit?06:49
willardkdesu gedit /etc/fstab06:49
willard?06:49
Jucatogedit doesn't exist in KDE06:50
dr_willisfaked_,  be clear, and concise. and patient.06:50
faked_I'm being as clear as I can06:50
dr_willisits highly possoble you are doing somthing trivialy wrong.. now Exactly WHAT are you trying to compile.06:50
faked_I told you my problem. I don't know how to install it. The docs don't help.06:50
willardI'm on gnome I think06:50
faked_It's a bittorrent client, Ctorrent.06:50
Jucatowillard: oh. the "gksu gedit /etc/fstab" then06:51
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coachjI have an intresting puzzle, I use two superkaramba widgets which I want to start at login so I config session mgr to save the last session. At login the Kmixer window appears on the desktop, even thou it is not running at session end06:51
coachjThis doesn't happen if I dont have superkaramba running the widgets.06:51
draikfaked_, open up your konsole and type 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'06:51
willardthat worked - thanks06:51
dr_willisfaked_,  so you downloaded and did a   tar xzvf ctorrent-source-file.tar.gz06:51
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faked_I did a tar jxvf ctorrent-1.3.4.tar.bz206:52
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faked_then I did ./configure06:52
willardok - gonna reboot06:52
faked_exactly like the docs told me to06:52
dr_willisfaked_,  cd INTO the directory where the source is at.06:52
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faked_I'm in it as we speak.06:52
dr_willisso whats in there? see a makefile? see a configure file?06:53
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faked_there's a configure file.06:53
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faked_and makefile.am, and makefile.in06:53
dr_willisnormally ./configure scans a lot of things, then makes some files, then you use 'make'06:53
faked_it did scan lots of things06:54
faked_but make doesn't do anything.06:54
faked_make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.06:54
dr_willislet me boot up ubuntu and see. :)06:54
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Daillewhi, anyone here ever use chatzilla?06:59
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Daillewwhen i connect  i get the message ,[ERROR] You need to be an operator in #kubuntu to do that. any idea why?07:00
Dr_Willis./configure and make works for me.. I am guessing your ./configure is failing due to some libs being needed - and thus not making the right makefiles.07:00
Dr_Willisi forget who i was even talking to earlier.07:00
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JucatoDr_Willis: it was faked_07:01
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wallaceHi Does someone speak frenche ?07:02
abattoir!fr07:02
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ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:02
waspius_i installed fvwm but it does not load..anyone know why?07:02
abattoirwallace: you can find people there^^^ :)07:02
Dr_Williswell i got to go mow the yard.. bbl07:02
vannecan anyone point me to a default sources.list file from 6.06(.1) ?07:02
wallacethanx07:03
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vanneupdating from ubuntu 5.x to kubuntu 6.0607:03
abattoirvanne source-o-matic is a tool which helps regenerate your sources.list file07:03
abattoir!source-o-matic07:03
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:03
Daveyboydespite using kdm and kde, my vncserver conenction uses a gnome desktop, can anybody help to configure to kde?07:03
Daveyboydespite using kdm and kde, my vncserver conenction uses a gnome desktop, can anybody help to configure to kde?07:03
vannemerci abattoir07:04
abattoirvanne: hehe, dont let the name mislead you :P07:04
vanne:)07:04
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Daveyboyanybody?07:05
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Daveyboyif installing ubuntu then doing an apt-get instal kubuntu-desktop, i sit a "true" kubuntu box?07:06
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Admiral_ChicagoDaveyboy, yes07:06
apallo19why not just install kde?07:07
Daveyboyso why is vncserver defaulting to gnome07:07
abattoirDaveyboy: you'd still have gnome installed07:07
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Daveyboyhow do i remove gnome?07:07
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apallo19apt-get remove gnome07:08
abattoirDaveyboy: i guess you'd need to remove 'ubuntu-desktop'07:08
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D4rklyis there a site where i can search for amarok compatable radio stations ?07:08
abattoirD4rkly: shoutcast.com ??07:09
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phreakys_i have no clue how to get this wireless thing working :/07:10
cilkayHello. I have the 6.06 live CD in my ThinkPad. I want to see if it supports the ThinkPad function controls, specifically switching between the LCD panel and the external VGA output for connecting to a projector. Does the default Live CD support that?07:10
abattoirD4rkly: amarok supports any mp3 station... actually any station for which you have the appropriate codec installed07:10
willarddidn't work guys - I'll do some more reading about mount points I guess07:10
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DaillewD4rkly: try here http://dir.xiph.org/index.php07:10
abattoirphreakys_: which card(chipset)?07:10
willardI can access the drive - just won't mount at boot07:10
pihlI'm trying to get mp3's working in audioplayers like amarok etc, and in the RestrictedFormats wiki on the ubuntu site it tells me to install libxine-extracodecs, but surely, it doesn't exist. (all repositories enabled, of course).07:10
Daveyboydo i need to reboot after removing gnome?07:10
Daveyboyubuntu-desktop07:10
abattoircilkay: not sure... you might need to choose the keyboard layout...07:10
pihlPackage libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source07:11
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abattoircilkay: kcontrol(or systemsettings)->Regional and Acc.->Keyboard Layout->Keyboard model07:11
Dodgerhia ll07:12
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Dodgerhi all even07:12
abattoirpihl: my guess is you havent enabled the repos properly07:12
phreakys_its an intell pro wireless 2200 bg07:12
phreakys_i setup ssid and wep key, but its not working07:12
abattoirpihl: check if the distribution in the appropriate line(where you added universe/multiverse) is dapper, instead of dapper-backports07:12
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pablo7waspius_ Still want to know about fvwm?07:12
Daillewpihl try automatix http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page07:12
apallo19ooo, using an ibm lappy eh?07:12
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phreakys_wireless assistant detects the network, and says it connects07:12
OOD!grub07:13
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:13
pihlokey, I installed that yesterday, guess I missed the audio codecs part ;)07:13
abattoirphreakys_: try 'sudo ifup ethX' where ethX is the name of your interface07:13
cilkayabattoir: thanks. I'm running Kubuntu on this machine, which is not the laptop. The laptop only has the Live CD, which has Gnome. I tried starting /usr/bin/systemsettings from a shell on the laptop but nothing. Most be some Gnome equivalent.07:13
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waspius_pablo7: yes please07:13
phreakys_will do. tnx abattoir07:13
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abattoircilkay: i'm not aware of the gnome equivalent :(. but you could ask at #ubuntu07:13
phreakys_"interface eth0 already configured"07:14
phreakys_eth0 is my wireless connection07:14
phreakys_ifconfig07:14
pablo7waspius_ Do you have a command line?07:14
apallo19!find smbfs07:14
ubotuFound: smbfs07:14
phreakys_oops, wrong box :)07:14
apallo19oops, wrong channel07:14
cilkayabattoir: silly me. I thought I was in #ubuntu. Konversation automatically joined this channel. Thanks for the help.07:14
abattoirphreakys_: do you see your network card in 'iwconfig' of 'ifconfig' ?07:14
abattoircilkay: after all konversation is a KDE app :P07:15
waspius_pablo7: u mean konsole?yes07:15
cilkayabattoir: you don't have to convince me on the merits of KDE over Gnome. I've been using KDE for years. I'm a fish out of water on the Live CD though since it's Gnome.07:16
tk!restricted07:16
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:16
pablo7waspius_ Okay type "whereis fvwm" at the prompt.07:16
phreakys_sort of07:16
abattoircilkay: hehe, i never try to convince anyone about the merits of KDE over GNOME, its your choice.. :)07:16
Dodgeri've got trouble with my proxy settings in dapper... kdesu doesn't seem to find either the ones i've setup in the control panel or the http_proxy environment variable - i've got to sudo adept to make it able to connect, starting it through KDE will make it error out on download07:16
phreakys_eth0 had ieee 802.11g07:16
apallo19!find samba packages07:17
ubotuFound: dpsyco-samba, python2.4-samba, samba, samba-common, samba-dbg (and 3 others)07:17
waspius_pablo7: /usr/bin/fvwm /usr/lib/fvwm /usr/bin/X11/fvwm /usr/share/fvwm /usr/share/man/man1/fvwm.1.gz07:17
epShould I ask this here? How do you create a symbolic link to file using konqueror?  right click menu gives Create new | Link to application... device...  location...  No menu option seems to work.07:18
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abattoirep: link to location?07:19
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pihlDaillew, thanks, worked excellent with automatix :)07:20
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Daillewwelcome mate07:20
Daveyboyanyone know where i can set kde as my window manager in a vncserver connection?07:20
eplink to location (URL) seems to create a  *.desktop file07:21
pablo7waspius_ The "/usr/bin/fvwm" part is the path you'll need to test it out.  Now, type Ctrl-Alt-F1 and get a virtual terminal.07:21
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JosephHello all. Anyone experience any problems installing Kubuntu from cd boot where the SBM disk won't identify the drive properly? When I try to boot from the CD using SBM i get a Disk Error: 0x0C07:22
abattoirep: then i have no idea... sorry07:22
waspius_pablo7: ok done07:22
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abattoirep: you could probably download a service menu extension from kde-apps.org, if the feature isnt already present in konq.07:22
epI'll continue my google search then07:23
ninHer_hi all07:23
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Phreakystest07:24
JosephHello all. Anyone experience any problems installing Kubuntu from cd boot where the SBM disk won't identify the drive properly? When I try to boot from the CD using SBM i get a Disk Error: 0x0C Since it is a DVD-Rom drive I wonder if this may be a conflict, the sbm is detecting it as a Cd-Rom drive07:24
Phreakyshow do i change my userpw from root user?07:24
Phreakys(forgot it)07:24
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matrixhi is there any reason why amarok doesn't play mp3s? engine is set to xine output alsa. flacs are played fine. inet radio to. just mp3 doesnt work07:25
pablo7waspius_ Alright, if you don't have another user setup, you can do this with sudo.  Login, type sudo -i, & type your password again.07:25
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Admiral_Chicagomatrix, libraries?07:26
matrixAdmiral_Chicago: libxine-extracodecs is installed. i restarted amarok after installing it07:27
HawkwindPhreakys: passwd <user>07:27
Admiral_Chicagono idea, perhaps the other libraries?07:27
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Phreakystnx07:27
matrixAdmiral_Chicago: which else do i need?07:27
Admiral_Chicago!mp307:28
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:28
matrixi will look there thx07:28
mattis1apt-get install gobby and join the ting in half an hour http://is-root.de/w/index.php/tingWiki/ting7307:28
mattis1jam session kinda07:28
mattis1five participants five cursors, everybody writes everywhere07:29
pussfellerwhats up with youtube in firefox and no dound07:29
pussfellerno sound07:29
pussfelleri added that dsp thing to the firefoxrc07:29
pussfelleraoss07:29
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pussfellerFIREFOX_DSP=aoss07:30
KiongkuJucato: yo jucato u here?07:32
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waspius_pablo7:confused07:32
JucatoKiongku: just got back07:32
KiongkuJucato: do u have wma files?07:32
JucatoI think I do, let me check07:32
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JucatoKiongku: I guess not...07:33
pablo7waspius_  Did you login at the virtual console?  Once you do, type "startx /usr/bin/fvwm -- :1" and let me know how it goes.07:34
JucatoI thought I did....07:34
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KiongkuJucato: how did u check?07:34
willardgot it to work guys - thanks!07:35
JucatoKiongku: locate:/*.wma07:35
JucatoKiongku: still looking07:35
KiongkuJucato: ah lol ok07:35
waspius_pablo7: login as root?07:35
JucatoKiongku: I kept one after all. I guess locate:/ doesn't look hard enough :-D07:35
KiongkuJucato: hehe.. do u own the default amarok?07:36
Jucatotrying to see if AMarok will detect it07:36
KiongkuJucato: yah :p07:36
Jucatoyep it did07:36
Jucato:-D07:36
JucatoAmarok 1.4.107:36
Kiongkucool its a custom one?07:37
Jucatono07:37
pablo7waspius_  Not if you don't want to.  Just type your username at the prompt.  Next enter your password.07:37
KiongkuDefault?07:37
Daveyboydoes ubuntu and kubuntu use the same repo's?07:37
Jucatospecial release from Kubuntu07:37
Jucatosomething like KDE 3.5.407:37
JucatoDaveyboy: yes, except for new releases of KDE, KOffice, and Amarok07:37
JucatoKiongku: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php07:38
KiongkuJucato: doh.. well i think bcoz i changed repos07:38
KiongkuJucato: cant find it in repos07:38
JucatoKiongku: a word of warning though, FLAC doesn't work in Amarok 1.4.107:38
KiongkuJucato: FLAC files?07:38
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JucatoKiongku: yeh.07:38
KiongkuJucato: got 1.4.207:38
KiongkuJucato: and i think no FLAC files to test out  ( '')07:39
JucatoKiongku: there are three things that are released separately in Kubuntu: KDE, KOffice, and Amarok07:39
KiongkuJucato: i see07:39
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JucatoKiongku: it's ok. but does Amarok 1.4.2 detect WMA?07:39
JucatoI mean, does it include WMA's in the collection?07:39
waspius_pablo7: fatal error server already running07:39
KiongkuJucato: yah.. it shows up in collection07:39
Jucatoand that didn't happen in Amarok 1.3.9? (default Kubuntu install)07:40
pussfellerthe prob with flac isnt amarok, its xine07:40
KiongkuJucato: yap07:40
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Jucatowell, yeah07:40
Jucatothe combination of Amarok and xine...07:40
Jucatoi mean, Amarok 1.4.1 and the current xine version07:41
pussfelleri have the latest xinelib and use an svn amarok, and its still messed up07:41
pussfellerso it must be old xinelibs floating around I GUESS07:41
KiongkuJucato: now it remains only the scripting part for me to try learn  ._.07:41
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pussfellerso how to fix sound in youtube/flash07:41
pussfellerannoying me to no end07:41
Jucatopussfeller: some have patched/compiled the new xine and was able to make FLAC play in Amarok07:41
jannef07:41
pussfellerthe latest xinelib is supposed to fix the flac issues07:42
KiongkuWhats FLAC anyway.. can someone send me a link to one?07:42
pussfellerflac is a free lossless codec07:42
tkFLAC is Free Lossless Audio Codec07:42
tkgoogle it07:42
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Kiongkuhmm i think i'll search the net for one file to test out07:42
pussfellerie, it sounds great and its opensource, larger file size than mp3s ussually07:42
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pussfelleri think its the same as an ogg, but not07:43
pussfellerheh07:43
Jucatopussfeller: ogg vorbis is not lossless07:43
KiongkuCan someone send me a small flac file for me to test my amarok?07:43
tkthere you go Kiongku07:43
Jucatoand OGG covers ogg vorbis, ogg theora, etc...07:43
pablo7waspius_  It could either be root permissions or that the display is already in use.  Type "sudo -i" and login as root.  Next type "/usr/bin/fvwm -- :2" because chances are that display is free.07:43
tkits not small but  its all I got :P07:43
tkwell a meg or 207:44
Kiongkuoh O_o07:44
tkor 24....07:44
Kiongkutimed out lol07:44
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Kiongkuh,,07:44
Kiongkuhmm07:44
Kiongkui have a rather large dl behind may be its the reason.. dl 2006 live cd for gentoo07:44
tkheh07:45
tklet me see if another song is smller07:45
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pablo7waspius_  Sorry it's "startx /usr/bin/fvwm -- :2" that you should type.07:45
Kiongkutk: i gofire on.. is it bcoz of that?07:46
Kiongku*got firewall07:46
tkKiongku: could be....07:46
Kiongkustrange.. dcc from others bot works07:46
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Kiongkuwait i test out07:46
Kiongkufrom a bot07:46
tkk07:47
tkoh wait. let me reset my eth007:47
tkforgot, new install, my ip is DHCP instead of wht it should be07:47
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Kiongkutk: lol07:50
Kiongkutk: i getting dcc alright with bot07:50
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Kiongkutk: its really ur side then?07:50
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pussfellerdcc send Kiongku /media/sda1/music/Audio_Books/Bibles/NASB - flac/001_Matthew/NASB - 05 - Matthew Chapter 05.flac"07:51
pussfellererrr07:52
naliothpussfeller: be careful with that, please07:52
pussfellerirssi dont like spaces in file names07:52
Kiongkuyay thx guys ^^ tk dcc is working alright07:52
Kiongkuthx pussfeller07:52
tkKiongku: yah it helps when you have the right IP in your eth0 configs ;)07:52
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tk(by you I mean me :P)07:52
Kiongkutk: hehe i use pp007:53
Kiongku*ppp007:53
tkppp0 as in dialup?07:53
Kiongkutk: nah as in sucking usb adsl modem that took me 1 week before knowing how to get kubuntu online07:53
pussfellerach07:54
waspiuspablo7: sorry my mistake..it opens but i think it needs configuration07:54
pussfelleran acaltel sppedboard or wahtever?07:54
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Kiongkunow that made me want to stick to kubuntu for a while.. i'll let my friend try out gentoo XD07:54
Kiongkusagem fast 80007:54
pussfellerits best just to make them give you one that plugs into the lan card07:54
pussfellerif they will07:55
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tkKiongku: ahhh hehe that sucks :P07:55
Kiongkupussfeller: not here.. my isp sucks07:55
Kiongkutk: it took me 1 week to realise i could get build-essential from the cd.. without that tip i would be stuck forever07:55
tkKiongku: most of those modems have both ports.... you can plug in if you have the cable :P07:55
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Frederickfolks isn't kvim avaliable in the repos?07:55
Kiongkutk: mine is a sucky modem =))07:55
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tkohhh build essentials, I need to dl that again :P07:55
Kiongkutk: lol07:56
tkjust reinstalled to 64bit again...07:56
tkhoping I can get flash working this time07:56
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pussfellerI have found that local telephone companies that are independent have the best service, so far07:56
pablo7waspius_  Okay so X is started and you're running fvwm. It's been awhile since I've run it, but I remember that it is one of the most configurable window managers out there.07:56
pussfellerin terms of speed and whatnot07:57
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abattoir!info kvim07:57
ubotuPackage kvim does not exist in dapper07:57
Kiongku1297 packages installed..07:57
tkpussfeller: not mine back home... they want 65/month for DSL......07:57
abattoirFrederick: ^^^ apparently not...07:57
tkand they dont even know what they are doing half the time07:57
Fredericknor gvim?07:57
Hawkwind!info gvim07:57
ubotuPackage gvim does not exist in dapper07:57
Hawkwind!info gvim edgy07:57
ubotuPackage gvim does not exist in edgy07:57
Kiongkumine is national isp provider07:57
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Frederick=/07:57
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Kiongkuso damn small country..07:57
pussfellerim payin 83 for local phone and dsl, which is high, but OTOH they have great news server and i get like 1000KB+ dls07:57
abattoirhello Hawkwind :)07:58
Hawkwindabattoir: Hey there.  How are ya ?07:58
tkhmm interesting, even with the latest amarok...... mp3s dont want to play07:58
Admiral_Chicagoi pay that much for DSL + phone07:58
abattoirHawkwind: fine... :) you?07:58
Jucatotk: huh?07:58
Admiral_Chicagoi get about 3 to 6.0 mb/s07:58
Kiongkutk: u forgot to install the xine_extracodecs07:58
abattoirtk: latest meaning?07:58
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pussfellertk, it might be better just to use the amarok-svn script07:58
tkabattoir: latest, from the amarok repo07:58
Jucatoeven the latest amarok, without libxine-extracodecs, won't play MP3's07:59
pussfellerinstead of a package, they add stuff all the time07:59
Hawkwindabattoir: Doing well.  Just relaxing, watching a bit of tv07:59
abattoirtk: 1.4.1 ?07:59
Kiongkutk: u forgot the xine codecs07:59
Admiral_ChicagoJucato, not true07:59
abattoirHawkwind: aah... me too ;)07:59
tki think i forgot the extracodecs :P07:59
Admiral_Chicagoi'm playing an mp3 atm07:59
pablo7waspius_  You probably will need to do a bit of mouse clicking and menu selecting to figure it out, but let me know if you have any questions.07:59
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: without libxine-extracodecs?07:59
KiongkuAdmiral_Chicago: well mine play too.. but i got the extracodecs too :p07:59
Admiral_Chicagooh no i got it07:59
Admiral_Chicagoi thought you meant play mp3s at all07:59
Jucato<Jucato> even the latest amarok, without libxine-extracodecs, won't play MP3's <--- here's what I said07:59
Admiral_Chicagoah well I don't read well08:00
Jucatomaybe I should rephrase that to: any Amarok version, even the latest, will not play MP3's, without libxine-extracodecs08:00
KiongkuAdmiral_Chicago: hehe08:00
KiongkuJucato: enough.. :D08:00
tkKiongku: good call, I always forget something :P08:01
Kiongkutk: heh08:01
tknow if only I can find a working repo for fuse/ntfs-3g... ill be happy08:01
Kiongkutk: the only things i forget are the devs files.. and then i just bump into errors XD08:01
tk!ntfs-3g08:02
ubotuntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=171008:02
tkmaybe that link has one that works08:02
Kiongkutk: lol.. i rather stay on safe side.. ntfs-3g still better.. and that one can surely corrupt the hdd08:02
tkKiongku: ntfs-3g is what I use... I just dont want to install by hand if theres a deb :P08:02
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pussfellerso there is no solution to the flash/sound problems?08:03
Kiongkutk: lol.. well.. i have some nice stuff i wanna keep in my ntfs .. i'll leave it for my windows to play with :)08:03
Jucato#ubuntu-classroom Classes are about to start :-D08:03
tkKiongku: I've xfered over a gig of data and no failures or corruptions using ntfs-3g08:03
Admiral_Chicagopussfeller, ask adobe08:03
Kiongkutk: nice08:03
abattoir!classroom08:04
ubotuThe Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom08:04
Admiral_Chicagothey won't release a new verison for linux08:04
HawkwindJucato: What's the topic today ?08:04
KiongkuOh well.. time to hit the compilers again.. xine not reading the flacs08:04
JucatoHawkwind: CLI08:04
HawkwindJucato: Ah08:04
Admiral_Chicagowhen is the class08:05
Jucatonow08:05
HawkwindAdmiral_Chicago: In about 5 minutes08:05
tkKiongku: use this...08:05
HawkwindOr now08:05
Jucatostarting08:05
HawkwindHeh08:05
Admiral_Chicago#ubuntu-classroom?08:05
HawkwindAdmiral_Chicago: Yes08:05
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Kiongkutk: ?08:05
Admiral_Chicagotopic?08:05
Jucatoyep08:05
Admiral_ChicagoCLI?08:05
Admiral_Chicagowtf is that08:05
HawkwindAdmiral_Chicago: Hence what the bot stated above08:05
tk deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main08:05
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JucatoCommand Line basics08:05
HawkwindAdmiral_Chicago: Command Line Interface08:05
Admiral_ChicagoAh okay, cool08:05
tkKiongku: thats a repo with the latest amarok... the flac bug is fixed in it ;)08:05
Admiral_ChicagoI need to brush up on the command line anyways08:06
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Kiongkutk: doh i just installed 1.4.2 :( after going through hell to compile it08:06
Admiral_Chicagoanyone know when Gaim is going to come out of Beta08:06
Admiral_Chicagoi'm on 2.0 beta 3 but I want the latest stable08:06
tkwell that repo says its 1.4.0... but it plays flc08:06
HawkwindAdmiral_Chicago: After the first of the year08:06
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Admiral_ChicagoHawkwind, no way!08:07
tkmy amarok reports 1.4.0 rather08:07
Admiral_Chicagothat is so long from now08:07
Toranhey guys, is there a way to get icons on my desktop with no text beneath them?08:07
HawkwindAdmiral_Chicago: 2.0 beta 3 is very stable.  I've been using it for a long time now without any issues08:07
Admiral_Chicagoyea but there are a few GUI issues that need fixes08:07
pussfellerwhat about voice and video08:07
HawkwindAdmiral_Chicago: Such as ?08:07
Admiral_Chicagoin the away message, the big space before you can see your options08:08
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HawkwindAdmiral_Chicago: Ummm, use the scroll down option and that space goes away08:08
HawkwindAdmiral_Chicago: Having that space does *not* make the app unstable08:08
abattoirToran: try blanking the title...08:08
ToranIt gets mad at you about filename08:09
Admiral_ChicagoHawkwind, no i didn't say it was unstable08:09
HawkwindAdmiral_Chicago: Well, you said you wanted the latest stable.  Beta 3 happens to be very stable08:09
Admiral_Chicagoi just wanted to know when 2.0 came out, i should have left out the stable part i suppose08:09
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HawkwindHeh08:09
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HawkwindAdmiral_Chicago: Yeah 2.0 final isn't due out til after the first of the year according to Sean08:10
Admiral_Chicagodang, oh well, Its still better than AIM08:10
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Kiongku!amarok08:19
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php08:19
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Kiongkudarn.. adept refuses to let me install the xine engine wihtout the default amarok08:22
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jillchello08:24
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Kiongkujillc: hi08:25
jillchi Kiongku08:25
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jillcwhat is the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu (i'm just learning this so please be layman)08:26
waspiuskubuntu used kde as default whereas ubuntu gnome08:27
grotheskjillc: It's just the Desktop.08:27
grotheskUbuntu uses gnome as default, kubuntu uses kde.08:27
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waspiusso basically kubuntu is the same as ubuntu but with kde08:27
Dr_WillisBingo A+!08:27
Dr_Willis:)08:27
grotheskBut you may add the other one very easily08:27
jillcso gnome and kde are desktop images08:28
waspius:)08:28
Dr_Willis'desktop enviroments'08:28
jujimufujillc: desktop managers, yeah :)08:28
jillcwhich is better?08:28
jillcor are they made for different things?08:28
ccc_jillc: try both and see which you like better08:28
Dr_Willishttp://www.plig.net/xwinman/08:29
Dr_Willisread all about the diffrent window managers08:29
ccc_jillc: not really08:29
grotheskkde tends more to windows, gnome more to OS X-Style. *duck*08:29
Dr_WillisNone is better.08:29
Dr_Williskde makes windows seem like garbate.08:29
Dr_Willisgnome makes OS-X seem good. :)08:29
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jillchow about apples OP and <k>ubuntos.. are they similar08:29
jujimufuDr_Willis: lol :)08:30
jillcOS. oops08:30
matrixi realy turn nuts here. amarok refuses to play mp3s. I have set engine to xine. installed all libs I could find related to this and even with xine itself i am able to play them.08:30
jujimufumatrix: are you sure you have your speakers on?08:30
matrixjujimufu: yes as xine just played the mp3 and i was listening to flacs with amarok08:30
jujimufumatrix: so, you've played mp3 files before?08:31
matrixjujimufu: not with amarok. i played flacs before with amarok08:31
jujimufumatrix: so, amarok won't play?08:32
tkjujimufu: you have the xine-extracodecs installed?08:32
matrixtk: yes they are installed08:32
tkwhat version of amarok?08:32
matrix1.3.908:32
jujimufumy amarok just played mp3s after I installed all the codecs via EasyUbuntu. I just, clicked and played them.08:32
tktry updating... -> thats a repo with amarok in it ---.>  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main08:33
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tkbrb08:33
ccc_jillc: well you can configure it just the way you like it. kde is generally more configurable compared to gnome08:33
Kiongkubleh08:33
Kiongkucan i install a newer xine lib even if the older one is still detected?08:34
jillci just looked at that website.. i like the kde screenshots better08:34
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jillcit 'really' does look like windows08:34
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tkback08:36
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tkwoooo! got ntfs-3g working on boot now :D08:37
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Kiongkutk: good job :p08:37
tktoo bad I still have to unplug my bluetooth before it will recognize any of my devices though :(08:38
Kiongkutk: lol08:38
rikiohcan someone help me im in windows right now but everytime i try to go into kubuntu now right after i log out the screen goes white and theres like a hampster running around a spinning wheel, after that it goes to my desktop with no toolbars some odd green background and i cant do anything08:38
rikiohlog in*08:38
HawkwindThat's Xfce08:38
rikiohwhats that08:39
JucatoI just love that splash screen!08:39
HawkwindIt's a window manager08:39
Hawkwindrikioh: Do you boot to a graphical login screen ?08:39
Jucatoerr.. Desktop Environment...08:39
rikiohyes hawkwing08:39
rikiohwind08:39
Hawkwindrikioh: Then before you login, go to Session and choose KDE.  Then login just like normal and it will put you into KDE08:40
HawkwindJucato: Xfce is a window manager.  Gnome and KDE are desktop environments08:40
rikiohok ty08:40
rikiohi just didnt know what was going on :)08:40
rikiohi was like whats this hampster.....08:40
JucatoHawkwind: Xfce is a Desktop Environment, Xfwm is it's window manager. http://www.xfce.org/index.php?page=overview&lang=en08:41
Kiongkui cant talk on ubuntu-classroom08:41
JucatoKiongku: you sure can't08:41
Jucatoit's moderated08:41
HawkwindKiongku: You're not supposed to08:41
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KiongkuJucato: =(? and how can u o008:42
Jucatoonly moderators/ops/voiced people can talk08:42
HawkwindKiongku: When they are giving a class, they don't want people interupting it08:42
KiongkuHawkwind: doh..i'll just let it go by08:42
JucatoKiongku: you can't. addresss all questions to nalioth by typing '/msg nalioth <message_or_question>'08:42
KiongkuJucato: ah lol08:42
KiongkuHawkwind: i can find lib-xine in kubuntu o0?08:43
Kiongku*cant08:43
Jucato!info libxine08:43
ubotuPackage libxine does not exist in dapper08:43
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Jucatohmm08:43
Jucato!info xine-lib08:43
ubotuPackage xine-lib does not exist in dapper08:43
Kiongku!info lib-xine08:44
ubotuPackage lib-xine does not exist in dapper08:44
Kiongkubleh08:44
Jucato!info libxine1c208:44
ubotulibxine1c2: the xine video/media player library, transitional package. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 114 kB, installed size 260 kB08:44
Jucato!info libxine-main08:44
ubotuPackage libxine-main does not exist in dapper08:44
Jucato!info libxine-main108:44
ubotulibxine-main1: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu2-7.2 (dapper), package size 2865 kB, installed size 6632 kB08:44
Kiongkuhmm08:45
Jucatoso it's libxine1c2 or libxine-main1 ??08:45
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Kiongkulibxine-main1 i guess but cant remove without deleting the others08:47
jillcthank you all for explaining the difference.08:47
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tkof course after telling whats his name that repo... I found out I was mising the latest repo :P08:48
TheGateKeeperI am presently running a livecd, would like the info you get in fstab of the hard disk, anyone know a cli command to do that?08:48
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tkcat /etc/fstab ?08:48
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Mick7hello men08:49
Jucatoerr.. that would display the Live CD's fstab..08:49
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tkdoesnt the live cd mount the HD though?08:49
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tknm, it probably wouldnt be in the fstab though...08:49
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Jucatoit would probably be in /media/harddisk_mountpoint/etc/fstab08:50
Mick7I've tried some linux distributions and I always had some problem with my ATI radeon 9200 SE, after the load of live cd the screen remain black and don't happen nothing HELP08:51
tk!flash08:53
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:53
tkhmmm08:53
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tkisnt there a trigger for the 32bit flash in 64bit environment?08:53
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TheGateKeeperthe only fstab is in /etc and tells me the swap is /dev/hda2, probable means I want to mount /dev/hda108:54
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jujimufuTheGateKeeper: lol08:54
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TheGateKeeperwhat's the command that tells you where you are?08:56
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orient2000Hi! Is there any answering mashine for kubuntu I could use?08:56
Phreakyshi there08:56
Phreakysanyone experience installing compiz on kde kubuntu?08:56
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jujimufu!xgl08:57
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems08:57
jujimufuthere :)08:57
jujimufuyou're welcome :D08:58
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Dr_Willisdang it - is there a little recorder app - so i can test my mic in.08:59
Dr_Willis:P not sure what jack/mixer settings i need to use for it and skype08:59
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Dr_Willis!skype09:00
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto09:00
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ninHer_bye the way....anyone using openwengo ?09:00
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orient2000Hi! Is there any answering machine I could use on KDE Kubuntu?09:01
waspiusis the window manager different than the desktop?09:01
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Jucatowaspius: in KDE's, GNOME's, and Xfce's cases, yes.09:01
TheGateKeeperhow do you mount your hard disk if you are running from a CD??09:01
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Phreakystnx09:02
Phreakyswill try09:02
TheGateKeeperhow do you mount your hard disk if you are running from a LiveCD??  (I should have said)09:02
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fabian_Hey. I've got a secondary HDD which I just formated with QTParted and is now XFS. I've changed FSTAB to resemble the change in File System but it still comes up as a VFAT partition when I 'sudo fdisk -l'... Any ideas why?09:04
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waspiusi want to install a window manager that is not as heavy as kde and gnome but that i can add panels etc09:06
jujimufuxfce09:06
jujimufu!xfce09:06
ubotuXubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop09:06
jujimufu!gnome > jujimufu09:07
fabian_Try XFCE09:07
jujimufufabain: also a nice combination is openbox wiith kdesktop and fbpanel :)09:07
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utabkeyboard locks in KDE09:08
jujimufuutab: what do you mean it locks?09:08
utabany ideas09:08
utabjujimufu I can not type anything09:09
fabian_jujimufu: I'm kinda new to linux, but Openbox looks really nice. :) Haven't been able to try it though09:09
utabjujimufu I am on Gnome now09:10
D4rklydoes anyone know how i can add quicktime support to kaffeine ??09:10
JucatoD4rkly: you would need to install the w32codecs09:11
jujimufuD4rkly: try downloading the codecs package from EasyUbuntu09:11
jujimufu!Easyubuntu09:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Easyubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:11
jujimufu!easyubuntu09:11
Jucato!w32codecs09:11
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.09:11
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:11
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tk!java09:11
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository09:11
jujimufuutab: I didn't aks you what you're with now, I asked you what do you mean ti locks...09:11
D4rkly!mov09:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mov - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:12
fabian_darkly09:12
fabian_head over to http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs09:12
utabjujimufu I can not type, BTW you are so gentle09:12
D4rkly!quicktime09:12
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:12
__mikemHey, I have a question, I am trying to get xgl working, but all the instructions I find talk about nvidia or ati, the problem is I am using vmware, and consequentially, the video device ubuntu sees is neither ati or nvidia, therefore I need help setting this up09:12
fabian_that'll show you how to install all codecs (except wmv)09:12
D4rklyok cool :)09:12
jujimufuutab: I can be gentle if I want to, but you also have to cooperate and give proper information so that we can answer adequately. Thank you :)09:12
fabian_Hey. I've got a secondary HDD which I just formated with QTParted and is now XFS. I've changed FSTAB to resemble the change in File System but it still comes up as a VFAT partition when I 'sudo fdisk -l'... Any ideas why? --> No ideas, right?09:13
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utabjujimufu , so09:13
Blissexfabian_: you need to read a bit more about the difference between a filesystem and the partition containing it :-)09:13
__mikemI hate repeating myself, but aparently thats the only option I have here. Hey, I have a question, I am trying to get xgl working, but all the instructions I find talk about nvidia or ati, the problem is I am using vmware, and consequentially, the video device ubuntu sees is neither ati or nvidia, therefore I need help setting this up09:14
LeeJunFanfabian_: are you sure you formatted? not just partitioned as xfs?09:14
Blissex__mikem: thats mad, give up.09:14
D4rklydo gstreamer codecs work for kaffeine ?09:14
jujimufuutab: wait wait09:14
Blissex__mikem: there is a very, very good reason why the instructions mention fast cards with 3D accel.09:15
__mikemIs there any way to get xgl to work with vmware?09:15
fabian_LeeJunFan that's probably it. :-$ How can I format it? In QTParted, it shows upas XFS, but I'm unable to actually format it09:15
LeeJunFan__mikem: no.09:15
__mikemthat sucks09:15
LeeJunFanfabian_: mkfs.xfs /dev/hdb1 perhaps? depending on whether hdb1 is the correct drive/partition09:16
fabian_LeeJunFan: Thanks, I'm gonna try that out right now and see what happens09:17
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fabian_LeeJunFan: It seems to have worked, but it's done it extremly quickly... Maybe it's only partitioned it again?09:18
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LeeJunFanfabian_: no, mkfs doesn't partition.09:19
slow-motionhallo09:19
LeeJunFanfabian_: try mounting it now.09:19
fabian_LeeJunFan: Well, when I sudo fdisk -l, it still shows up as FAT09:19
LeeJunFanfabian_: sounds like qtparted didn't do it's job.09:19
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fabian_LeeJunFan: I'm typing "sudo mkfs.xfs /dev/hdd1 -f" in the cosole09:20
jujimufuutab: check this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=235405&highlight=kde+lock09:21
jujimufuutab: and generally, check the forums09:21
D4rklydoes anyone know how i can install the w32codecs ?? tried sudo apt-get install w32codecs but it didnt work ?09:21
jujimufuD4rkly: download easyubuntu, and check to install the codecs from there. It's the fastest and easiet way. Plus, it installs all codecs alltogether, so you'll most probably never need to download any codecs again09:22
jujimufu!easyubuntu > D4rkly09:22
utabjujimufu , before this I have sent there but got no replies09:22
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LeeJunFanfabian_: problem is that if it's not marked as an xfs partition type you're going to have trouble. you need to use fdisk and change the partition type, then mkfs.xfs it again.09:22
fabian_LeeJunFan: Ah, OK. So I have to partition with Fdisk, then format with Mkfs.xfs09:24
LeeJunFanfabian_: yeah, according to fdisk -l qtparted didn't change your partition type to xfs.09:25
Kiongku!amarok09:25
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php09:25
Kiongku!kaffeine09:25
ubotukaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1.3ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 1528 kB, installed size 3748 kB09:25
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fabian_LeeJunFan: Ok, now I get it. :) Thanks, I'll look into it.09:26
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utabKDE locks keyboard I can type but mouse is OK I can click and select, what might be the problem09:26
utabI can NOT type09:27
fritschutab: usb keyboard?09:28
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fritschutab: if yes { plug out(); plugin()} else {reboot()}09:28
utabfritsch both the usb and the built in one09:28
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fritschutab: plug out the usb one, and plug in09:29
utabfritsch now I use the built in09:29
fritschutab: does this always happen?09:29
fritschutab: this one is working?09:29
fritschutab: just replug the external usb one09:29
utabfritsch actually I am typing on Gnome ;)09:29
fritschutab: mmmh09:29
utabfritsch dell laptop09:30
fritschutab: sorry, don`t know a kde specific keyboard issue09:30
Kiongku!koffice09:30
ubotuIntegrated office suite for KDE, including word processing, spreadsheet, flow charting, image manipulation. For more info see: http://koffice.kde.org. Upgraded Kubu packs at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-151.php09:30
utabfritsch thx09:30
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Chris7mas!code09:32
ubotuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs; KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello; GNOME: gvim, gedit, eclipse, pida09:32
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Chris7mas!html09:32
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OxMoZ|mangbonjour09:32
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Chris7mashi09:32
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OxMoZqq1 veut bien m'aider jarrive pas a me connect a internet j'ai une livebox connect wifi par usb09:32
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Freddy2hi09:33
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brnnHello. I want to ask a simple question. I have Kubuntu 6.06. I  want to  change keyboard layouts using only two keys.09:36
brnnbut I can't09:37
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brnnbecause It only allows me 4 key combinations09:37
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brnnHow can I make it use two keys only?????09:37
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brnnWill anyone answer ???????????09:38
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Blissexbrnn: you cannot use _any_ keys. You can do it with 2, for example if you do something like CTRL+something09:40
osirisanyone having issues with ctrl+alt+f key terminals not working ?09:40
solus_my monitor worked fine on high res the last 2 weeks, i turned it on today and it was 640x480 and wont change, and i didnt do anything with the settings of the monitor at all yesterday other than change my backgrund image and screensaver, anyone have any clue about this problem?09:41
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Blissexsolus_: look at the contents of '/var/log/Xorg.0.log'09:41
brnnYES, blissex09:42
brnnI try09:42
brnnctrl + shift09:42
brnnor09:42
crazy_penguinGood evening all!09:42
brnnctrl + alt09:42
solus_Blissex:  i should also mention that i just started using this 2 weeks ago, lol...  i just search for that?09:42
Blissexbrnn: you cannot just use modifiers.09:42
brnnbut it always wants two more keys09:42
solus_Blissex: ok, its open, what should it look like?09:43
Blissexsolus_: look through it and it should say why the X server chose 640x480...09:44
solus_ok, thanks09:44
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solus_Blissex: ok, odd, it does recognize the chipset as g force 409:46
solus_and the drivers are there, so it knows it should do better09:46
Blissexsolus_: look at the lines about modes...09:47
Blissexsolus_: and about the monitor. The card is almost irrelevant.09:47
solus_ok, ill copy exactly what it says about the monitor, only 2 likes were found when i searched the doc09:48
solus_(II) NV(0): Generic Monitor: Using default hsync range of 28.00-33.00 kHz09:48
solus_II) NV(0): Generic Monitor: Using default vrefresh range of 43.00-72.00 Hz09:48
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Blissexsolus_: then obviously it is not a generic monitor. You need to redefine the monitor to inform the X server of its true horizontal and vertical scan rates.09:50
Blissexsolus_: probably you have changed connection or something else and it can no longer read them via EDID/DDC.09:50
solus_its a laptop, i wouldnt even know how to change the connection on it09:50
solus_but as long as i know the basic prob, i can check docs, thanks so much09:51
Blissexsolus_: ahhhhhh, is that for the _internal_ screen?09:53
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robert_blah09:55
robert_I've got kde+gnome, and kubuntu won't progress beyond starting the kernel event manger- wtf09:55
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solus_Blissex: yes, it is an internal09:57
solus_im trying to chat with the hp rep to see the exact make and model of the monitor now, but no one has been available for hours09:58
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Blissexsolus_: then it is strange it worked before but not now. Also check the size in pixels, if it is a bit odd you usually need a special modeline.09:58
solus_and when i tried ot change it manually to the settings i had before, it told me that my monitor didnt support it, which, it did yesterday, lol09:58
solus_ok, how does one do that?09:58
Blissexsolus_: to find out type/make just look at the label on the laptop get the model number and do a web search.09:58
solus_sorry to be a pain, but i have a good memory and will only ever have to ask once09:59
Blissexsolus_: do a nice web search, and I think it is also on the ubuntu Wiki.09:59
solus_i have the model number, but it isnt giving more than the graphics card/audio and that bs, which is all still ok and recognized09:59
solus_thats the thing i truly hate about hp, they make it hell for you to find out about their products and fix them yourself10:00
Kiongkuoh darn the kubuntu system for saving amarok ><...10:00
Jucatohuh?10:00
Kiongkucant compile new amarok..10:00
Jucatooh10:01
Kiongkui downgrading back to amarok 1.4.1 of kubuntu10:01
Blissexsolus_: there is something about laptop screen config here: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide10:01
Jucatoehehe! what you were looking for in Amarok is already in 1.4.1 anyway10:01
Kiongkuits too much hazzle to get xine engine in the new one bcoz the main libxine in kubuntu cannot be replaced.10:01
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Kiongkuif i try raplace it.. kaffeine and Kmplayer goes away too10:01
KiongkuJucato: go read the changelog for 1.4.210:02
Kiongkuquite a few nice features to be tested :D10:02
Blissexsolus_: in particular http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#HP_zt3000_.2F_Compaq_nx700010:02
JucatoKiongku: hehe! keyword "tested"10:02
Jucatothere are only so few things that I dare experiment with. Multimedia is not one of them... yet :-D10:02
KiongkuJucato: hehe.. :( and u know the hell i passed through to compile it.. now i dunno what to do with the devs files >>.. i think i'll keep it in case10:03
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JucatoI thought you said "no I dunno what to do with the devs" (developers)10:04
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KiongkuJucato: XDD.. i know what to do.. i'll close them in a room till they get the kubuntu 1.4.2 out :p10:04
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Jucatolol10:04
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KiongkuO.O10:05
zaqhello10:05
zaqis this a help channel?10:05
Kiongkuzaq: might be10:05
zaqok10:05
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Kiongkuzaq: if the prob can be solved by us :p10:05
JucatoKiongku: might be? it is! ^_^10:05
ZaQI am new to Ubuntu10:05
ZaQjust installed it10:06
JucatoKubuntu help channel10:06
ZaQand i dont know how to install programs that I downloaded from the web10:06
JucatoZaQ: Ubuntu or Kubuntu?10:06
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ZaQUnbuntu I beleive10:06
KiongkuZaQ: yap its kubuntu here.. if u need help for ubuntu go to ubuntu10:06
ZaQhmm10:06
JucatoZaQ: is your desktop brown?10:06
ZaQwhat is the difference between the two?10:06
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KiongkuZaQ: or blue :p10:06
ZaQyes10:06
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ZaQbrown10:06
Freddy2xD10:06
KiongkuZaQ: they use different desktop environment10:06
JucatoZaQ: then you're using Ubuntu10:06
ZaQok10:07
Jucato#ubuntu might be the best place to be :-D10:07
ZaQwhat is the difference?10:07
KiongkuZaQ: ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu uses kde10:07
ZaQhaha10:07
JucatoUbuntu uses GNOME, while Kubuntu uses KDE10:07
ZaQok10:07
ZaQwhat does that mean? lol10:07
KiongkuZaQ: the way we customise our linux =P10:07
JucatoGNOME and KDE are what we call desktop environments10:07
Jucatolol10:07
KiongkuJucato: XD he went away10:07
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JucatoT_T10:08
Jucatooh there he is10:08
zaqk10:08
zaqsorry10:08
Kiongkulol.. dunt be sad10:08
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Jucatoehehe10:08
Kiongkulol?10:08
KiongkuJucato was crying right now :p10:08
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Jucatowhoa10:08
Freddy2gnome seems to be easier for default config, but i think you can get better results with kde, if you configure it properly.. you'll need time and practice with it in order to get its best10:08
Kiongkuno worry10:08
Kiongkuhe went to the correct channel10:08
JucatoKiongku: how did you know? you're on #ubuntu too?10:09
Kiongku /whois zaq10:09
Jucatooh10:09
JucatoI thought you were sleeping with the enemy10:09
Jucatoj/k10:09
KiongkuFreddy2: dunt give a damn to gnome.. after kubuntu i'll move to gentoo.. if i ever change :p10:09
Freddy2hmm he was out? fuck XD10:09
KiongkuJucato: loL?10:09
Jucatoehehe10:10
RiddellFreddy2: language10:10
jillccan you have Windows xp and Kubuntu on the same computer?  and can Kubuntu run everything windows runs10:10
Jucatolol? like an uncertain laugh... ^_^10:10
Freddy2i'm spanish10:10
JucatoFreddy2: he meant, watch your language...10:10
Freddy2wasn't trying to be so "hard"10:10
Kiongkujillc: nah.. kubuntu cant run all that windows run by default10:10
Kiongkujillc: and ya u can dual boot10:10
Freddy2i'm not very good with english, sorrry10:10
OODjillc: you can have both on the same computer, and chose to boot either one or the other10:10
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JucatoFreddy2: no, just the F* word...10:11
Kiongkujillc: got both xp and kubuntu10:11
Freddy2i know10:11
Jucato^_^10:11
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JucatoKiongku: I've got Kubuntu, XP, and another partition for anything else I might fancy10:11
jillcwhich is easier to setup  ubuntu or kubuntu?10:11
Jucatoinitial setup? I'd say both10:11
KiongkuJucato: fancy gentoo and let me know the results ;)10:11
Hawkwindjillc: Both the same10:12
Kiongkujillc: does not matter10:12
Jucatolol! not Gentoo, not yet...10:12
KiongkuJucato: hehe10:12
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JucatoI'll probably try out Arch and Ark one of these days10:12
Kiongku:D10:12
Jucatohmph10:12
Kiongkuoh ?10:12
Jucatoyeah, but we're getting out of topic (again)10:12
KiongkuJucato: did he needed further help?.. bcoz he stopped asking question10:13
solus_Blissex: thanks, the monitor is fine again, it was a paint but i found the wiki on a laptop somewhat like mine, lol10:13
JucatoI dunno.10:13
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Blissexsolus_: best way...10:13
Kiongkubah10:13
MrBallZQuestion:  Why the automount doesn't mount external hdd's that are in NTFS ?10:13
MrBallZin kubuntu 6.06 dapper10:14
Blissex!ntfs10:14
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse10:14
Kiongkuquestion solved10:14
MrBallZhtnx10:14
solus_Blissex: im just wary at the moment because ive killed my sude twice, etc...  im not catching onto this linux thing very well, if i cant find my exact problem i ask, i guess i had better just get used to it and keep good backups for awhile10:14
solus_but i do like it much more than windows, even with the problems10:15
KiongkuMrBallZ: btw u can only read from ntfs10:15
Blissexsolus_: good. You gotta read more. Linux require most sysadm skills but then it is more logical and flexible. Precisely because it gets you to learn those skills...10:15
Jucatowell, if he can't mount it, he wouldn't even be able to read from it :-D10:15
Kiongku:p10:15
KiongkuJucato: hahah10:15
Kiongkuwell i can also follow that.. but i have nothign to gain from mounting it10:16
JucatoBlissex: probably not sysadm skills, but it does require learning a bit more than what you know from Windows (which is almost nothing)10:16
KiongkuBlissex: i rather say u need to learn to use the terminal more :p10:17
solus_haha, reading helps to a degree but a lot of even the wiki on ubuntus site assumes you know something about linux, which i didnt other than by repuation...  i did find a good site to walk me through the basic things, like learning exactly what sudo was and how to use it, but anything more comlicated than installing a program isnt in there10:17
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Kiongkuin windows rarely touch that cmd10:17
Kiongkusolus_: u started better than me.. i learned from forums and trial and error10:17
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JucatoKiongku: that really depends on the distro. there are some distros out there that are more CLI oriented, while there are a lot that are more GUI oriented. Ubuntu/Kubuntu is a happy mixture of both10:18
solus_trial and error i did with suse which was the bane of my existance for about 5 days, then i switched to kubuntu, and i have everything the way i want it now...10:18
Kiongkulol happy mixture :p10:18
solus_so now, i have to learn terminal, i try to make about an hour a day to play around and learn things i dont realize ineed to know10:18
Kiongkusolus_: good10:18
Freddy2(windows) modem problems are very common for people how try linux for the first time.. but when using dsl (or similar) routers is quite simple10:18
Kiongkui use usb modem.. the bane of the modems for linux10:19
Jucatonot if the DSL/ADSL connection uses PPPoE10:19
Kiongkunope ppoa10:19
JucatoI think WiFi's are more of the bane10:19
Kiongkupppoa10:19
JucatoKiongku: most DSL/ADSL ISP providers use PPPoE now more than PPPoA10:19
Freddy2indeed10:19
KiongkuJucato: i come from a stone age country so i use pppoa :p10:20
Jucatoand PPPoE, in the Debian world, has no GUI configuration tool10:20
solus_alright dinner is here, thanks so much for the help10:20
Kiongkupppoa got no GUI configuration tool too10:20
Jucatook... then both PPPoE and PPPoA :-D10:20
Kiongkuhehe10:20
JucatoKiongku: which country would that be? China?10:21
Freddy2but all the times i've seen it (for dsl) pppoe was managed inside the router, with nat enabled, of course10:21
KiongkuChina is very developed now.. dunt underestimate it :p10:21
Kiongkunah i'm from mauritius10:21
Jucatooh10:21
JucatoI was just presuming from the /whois :-D10:22
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JucatoFreddy2: I had to use pppoeconf to setup my ADSL connection10:22
Kiongkudang ig only libxine was not so interlaced by kubuntu. i could have upgraded my xine lib without prob :(10:22
Freddy2Jucato: do you have a public IP directly in your machine with no nat? or you aren't using a router?10:23
Kiongkui use pon ueagle-atm .. and thats all XD10:23
JucatoFreddy2: ehehe! would you laugh at me if I told you that I did not understand those terms :-D10:23
Freddy2hmm you use modem or router?10:24
Jucatoa modem, I think :-D10:24
Jucatoa black box thingy10:24
Freddy2i see.. ok then10:24
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Jucatobtw, how would you know if you were using a modem or a router?10:24
Jucatooh krap... almost 4:30 am...10:25
Freddy2common routers have several rj45 connectors (usually 4), and you connnect to it over an ethernet link10:25
Kiongku!amarok10:25
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php10:25
Freddy2well, you can also take a look at your ip and also to your gateway10:25
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robert_blah- (k)ubuntu won't progress past starting the kernel event manager - I had a power surge a short while ago, and now it won't start up :/10:26
JucatoFreddy2: basically, I have an ethernet card (integrated) which connects to a black box, which has 4 slots for what you called an rj45 connector10:26
HerukaHi Big problems trying to pair mobile/bluetooth..many hours..no luck..any suggestions10:27
Freddy2and what about ip/gateway?10:27
Jucatoerr...10:27
dr_willisHeruka,  i  manually edited some pin file - ages ago for mine.10:27
Freddy2are you using something like 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x?10:27
kevin_how to setup the gtk2 applications' fonts in kubuntu?10:27
Jucatokevin_: System Settings > Appearance > GTK Styles and Fonts10:28
JucatoFreddy2: where should I check? (this is getting embarassing...)10:28
Herukathanks Dr.Wilis.. will look at some of them10:28
robert_do note, that I recently installed/configured my system for use with ldap- if that makes any difference10:28
Freddy2try "sudo ifconfig", and take a look at ethX entries10:29
kevin_Jucato, I'll try it, thanks10:29
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JucatoFreddy2: eth0? but nothing resembles and IP/gateway address10:30
Freddy2second line at eth0.. inet addr: x.x.x.x10:30
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JucatoFreddy2: it's inet6 addr, then some hexadecimal figures10:31
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Freddy2hmm are you connected to an ipv6 provider?10:31
JucatoI have eth0, lo, and ppp010:31
JucatoI don't think so. I didn't really check with our ISP10:31
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Freddy2well, so it seems that your router doesn't manage ppp, so probably we're talking about the ppp0 entry10:32
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JucatoFreddy2: ok, there's inet addr, P-t-P, and Mask10:32
adehi can anyone help me, i have just installed linux for the first time, how do i get a media player?? please help10:33
Freddy2my router for example manages pppoe, so i simply need a private ip for connecting with it, and that's all.. quite simple10:33
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JucatoFreddy2: oh. my inet addr is 210.213.xxx.xxx10:34
dr_willisade fire up the adept package manager and look at the stuff you can install, check for vlc, mplayer, xine,10:34
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adethanx will do10:34
Kiongkuade: kaffeine and amarok is good10:34
Jucatoade: you could also try the installed media players mentioned by Kiongku10:34
dr_willisdepeneds on what 'media' you mean. :)10:34
Freddy2i see with a whois.. juan carlos torres? are you spanish?10:34
Jucatonope10:35
JucatoFilipino :-D10:35
Freddy2saludos xD10:35
Jucato@_@10:35
JucatoFreddy2: so I guess I'm using a modem, not a router, right?10:36
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Freddy2i think you're using a router which doesn't manage ppp itself, so your machine has to do the job10:36
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Jucatooh10:36
Jucatoanyway, thanks for the info!10:37
Freddy2np10:37
Jucatogotta catch some snooze... even for just 2-3 hours...10:37
Freddy2cya10:37
Jucatobye!10:37
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adewhat internet security can i get hold of10:39
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dr_willisade Huh?10:39
adefirewall, antivirus that sort of thing, what is compatible10:40
Freddy2firewall (iptables, for example)10:40
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dr_willisIts time to read a few guides on Linux Security I think. :P10:41
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Freddy2sure10:42
robert_anybody?10:42
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robert_help?10:42
dr_willishttp://www.linuxsecurity.com/docs/colsfaq.html10:43
Kiongkudoh... my amarok refuse to open now10:43
dr_willisrobert_ Hmm?10:43
Freddy2Kiongku: try to launch it from command line and see what it says10:43
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KiongkuFreddy2: ya10:43
appleseedhi10:43
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pierrethhello10:44
appleseedany italian user?10:44
pierrethhow can i use my dvd burner?10:44
Freddy2pierreth: k3b?10:44
dr_willispierreth,  i tend to use k3b to burn thangs. :P10:44
dr_willisits a decent progam10:45
pierrethFreddy2: it does not see it10:45
appleseedany italian user?10:45
Freddy2maybe it's not installed.. check this10:45
dr_willissee... NOW the true question comes out.10:45
dr_willis:P10:45
pierrethdr_willis: yes i did for my cd burner10:45
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pierrethk3b works well with cd burner10:45
pierrethbut i don't how to do the same with the dvd burner10:46
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pierrethi have 2 drives10:46
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pierreththe dvd is connected using firewire10:46
Freddy2k3b works fine with both cd and dvd drives10:46
robert_dr_willis: (k)ubuntu won't progress past starting the kernel event manager - I had a power surge a short while ago, and now it won't start up :/10:46
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pierrethnothing is happening when i add a cd in my dvd drive10:47
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pierrethmy cd drive is working well, i can see the cd on the desktop10:48
Freddy2i have never used firewire devices, sorry10:48
pierrethbut it is not the same for the dvd drive10:48
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Freddy2but k3b includes a config option for detecting all available devices.. try it10:48
tomaczechi10:48
pierrethFreddy2: how10:48
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misieqhow can i allow only browser with some specified user-agent string to access to /some/dir? i know i have to set "BrowserMatch SomeVariable" but what should i do with that variable then?>10:49
Freddy2pierreth: launch the program, and go to the preferences menu.. there you should see 2 equal entries for konfiguring k3b.. as far as i remember it's one of them10:50
tomaczecgot a question concerning automake -> i got installed version 1.4 _and_ 1.7. calling automake does use 1.4. why isnt 1.7 (the newer version) be called/run?10:51
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pierrethi have an option to add a device but i don't know how to use it10:53
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PeteIFGrah, finally.10:53
MrBallZI have an issue, i plug in a NTFS hdd thru usb, and it detects it and when I click on Ok, to access it I get a message that " wrong fs type ..."  , anyways, if i mount this hdd as sudo i have no problems, how can I fix this in kubuntu dapper 6.0610:54
tomaczecbtw, i simply fixed my prob by uninstalling 1.4 -> nevertheless, it took me wonder why the build process in questions tells me that i do not have 1.7.10:54
dr_willis_there may be some way to select what one to use system wide.10:54
dr_willis_ya can do it with java and other 'default' programs as well.10:54
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robert_dr_willis- anythng regarding my problem?10:57
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dr_willis_what was the problem? I missed it. Lol10:58
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gelevenis there any way i can install a version of ITUNES in Kubuntu?11:00
geleveniTunes11:00
geleven??????11:00
geleveni don't kjnow other good cd rippers11:01
dr_willis_grip, k3b, many others11:01
dr_willis_I would not classify itunes as a 'good' cd ripper. :P11:01
geleveni want to ripp ant max quality11:01
dr_willis_you mean rip to wav files?11:01
gelevenand KAudioKreator sucks11:01
gelevento mp311:02
gelevenit won't work11:02
geleveni was wondering if itunes exists for linux11:02
dr_willis_No it does not.11:02
geleveni saw some ipod stuff11:02
geleventhough11:02
dr_willis_ipod tools are for copying stuff to/from and ipod.11:02
tomaczecgeleven: the quality is based on the codecs you use.11:02
dr_willis_if they ripped - they would be just a front end to cdparanoia and other tools11:03
gelevenok11:03
gelevenso..tell me a good cd ripper.....11:03
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geleveni want to encode at 320 kbps.......high quality.......with id311:04
gelevenjust like itunes11:04
tomaczecgeleven: the qst is -> tell me a good codec.11:04
geleveni don't know11:04
dr_willis_i tend to use grip. i just like how it works. :P and its flexable11:04
Kiongkuwhere are all the programs downloaded through apt-get?11:05
dr_willis_its just a front end to the other console tools.11:05
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geleveni am using linux since today11:05
dr_willis_Kiongku,  you mean where does the .debs go ? or the installed programs?11:05
patoholas11:05
dr_willis_!media11:05
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs11:05
robert_dr_willis: lol11:05
Kiongku.deb11:05
tomaczecKiongku: how you mean 'all the programs'?11:05
robert_dr_willis_: (k)ubuntu won't progress past starting the kernel event manager - I had a power surge a short while ago, and now it won't start up :/11:05
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dr_willis_Kiongku,  /var/apt/cache/ (i think)11:05
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dr_willis_robert_ may wan tto boot to single user/rescue mode and see if any more detailed messages show up.11:06
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KiongkuDr_Willis: amarok takes a long time to load then it does not even show up11:06
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tomaczecKiongku: when it does not show up... how you detect that it is loaded at all?11:08
Kiongkutomaczec: in process table11:08
tomaczecKiongku: and dmesg shows nothing?11:09
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Kiongkutomaczec: amarokapp probably crashed11:09
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jasjayudaaaaaaaaaaaaa11:10
crimsun!es11:10
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:10
tomaczecaiuto <- italina for help.. i guess ayuda is spanish.11:11
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tomaczecs/italina/italian/11:11
pierrethwhere can i get help?11:12
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Josephhello all11:12
tomaczecand that means help is male in italian while it is female in spanish. ;)11:13
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Josephi am burning a a kubuntu install cd or trying anyway...I am having troubles making it properly bootable. any advice on software or perhaps what I may be doing wrong...under WinXP and using CDBurnerXP Pro11:14
PeteIFI used CDBurnerXP Pro to burn my Kubuntu CDs.11:14
PeteIFMake sure that you burn it as a bootable CD image, and don't try and burn faster than 8x.11:14
PeteIFI burned at 4x to be safe.11:14
Josephah...let me give it a shot11:15
jasjhelp with libc611:15
jasj???11:15
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jasjhelp me11:15
crimsun!es > jasj11:16
Josephon boot options what did you use as far as type of bootable Pete?11:16
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Josephit asks for emulation type11:17
jasjhi i damage my libc6 and i dont know how to fix it11:17
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jasj!es>jasj11:18
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jasj!es > crimsun11:19
JosephPeteIF...Do you use Joliet, ISO 1, or ISO 2 when you burn?11:20
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jasjhelp11:22
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jasjhelp please11:22
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PeteIFDoesn't matter, IIRC. I left it as the default.11:22
PeteIF@ joseph11:22
PeteIFBut that was like 8 months ago.11:22
PeteIFSince then I just ordered CDs from ShipIt.11:23
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Josephdidnt mess with emulation type or anything like that either?11:23
Kiongkubleh i broke my amarok11:24
PeteIFjoseph: no. Just make sure that you burn at <8x, and it's a bootable ISO.11:25
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jasjhelp11:28
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Arkkisungh, help, good advices on how to recover data from corrupted reiserfs sections wanted11:29
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jasj!es >PeteIF11:30
tomaczecArkkis: use your backups. don't use reiser at all.11:31
jasj!es > jasj11:31
Hawkwindjasj: Please stop playing with the bot11:31
Freddy2lol11:32
Arkkistomaczec, well, that was rather unhelpful11:33
Arkkisthanks anyways11:33
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tomaczecArkkis: unhelpful? well, i did tell at least 2 things you seem do have done. or not done. really?11:35
pierrethok my drive works in usb2 :-)11:35
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asimonArkkis: You could run reiserfsck on the unmounted partition (for example from the live CD). But it's risky, it may be able to restore your filesystem, but it could also happen to destroy what's left. My own expieriences with reiserfsck are mixed.11:36
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Arkkisasimon, thanks, I'll consider that as a last resort then11:37
tomaczecArkkis: i know noone who managed to fix a corrupted reiserfs.11:37
pierrethok, i found the drivers, it works!!11:37
Arkkistomaczec, well, I was transferring to ext3 when this happened on my old drives, so11:37
Arkkisif that's any better11:38
pedrohey guys..11:38
pedrocan anybody tell me something about sharing files???11:38
asimontomaczec: I had several occasions where a 'reiserfsck -rebuild-tree' restored a corrupted fs. But also some occasions where it wasn't able to do so.11:38
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crazy_penguinGood night! Sleep well! :)11:40
tomaczecasimon: ok, i will change my statement to 'i know one guy' in my future postings concerning reiserfs. :)11:40
Arkkisheh11:41
jasji have problems with libc, can i fix?11:41
jordi_my laptop is unable to connect to internet since some days ago and i don't know what to do. Somebody can help me?11:41
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asimontomaczec: it all depends on your definition of 'know' ;-)11:42
jordi_the problem is not whith the hardware cause when the laptop is running on windows internet goes correctly11:43
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tomaczecasimon: i will say 'w/o definition i prolly have the information that this actions was carried out (no time zone)'...11:45
waspiususr/share/doc/icewm/icewm.html11:45
waspiussorry11:45
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cvasilakhi, sorry if this is asked before....i have a wmv video file, what is the name of the package that installs the win32-codec pack in mplayer, on the cosole it complains that it can't find "/usr/lib/win32/wmvdmod.dll"11:45
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waspiushey sorry to be off topic..i installed icewm and i was wondering if anyone knew how i can install a desktop in it11:46
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jordi_I think is w3211:47
archdronehi, i installed grub-splash images package and after while uninstalled it and now the grub menu is gone, after boot i see only command line and i want the menu back, i cant google anything, pls help11:47
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tomaczecarchdrone:  for now, try to type 'gdm' or 'kdm'.11:49
archdronetomaczec: im already in kde11:50
tomaczecarchdrone:  hence you mean the boot menu?11:51
archdroneyep:)11:51
waspiusanyone?11:52
jordi_yes11:53
tomaczecarchdrone: it's all in the grub manuals. maybe you try a 'grub-install' on the cli.11:53
Hawkwindwaspius: IceWM is a window manager of it's own.  Why not just use it by itself ?11:53
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waspiusHawkwind: i know but does it not need a desktop??if i dont use kdesktop11:55
Hawkwindwaspius: No.  You can do everything in it you want/need.  You can run KDE, Gnome apps all you want11:55
Hawkwindwaspius: IceWM is a lightweight window manager so it doesn't have all the icons and stuff that KDE/Gnome has.  But you can use all their apps without a problem11:56
archdronetomaczec: i think im dumb, i dont see anything about grub's menu11:56
waspiusHawkwind: i want to use a desktop that will not use as much as resource as kde11:56
tomaczecwaspius: IceWM _is_ a desktop.11:56
waspiustomaczec: howcome11:56
waspiustomaczec: i tried to change theme and the files i downloaded went straight to my kde desktop..plus i had no utilities on it11:57
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Hawkwindwaspius: Then use IceWM11:57
tomaczecwaspius: i dunno why the coders of IceWM made it a desktop app.11:57
Hawkwindwaspius: What do you mean 'They went straight to me KDE desktop'  ????11:58
waspiusi am confused11:58
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waspiuswell i was in icewm and i downloaded some files..instead of going on its desktop they went to my kde11:58
waspiuson my other session11:58
Hawkwindwaspius: Right/Left/Middle click in IceWM to get your menus and things.  It's a window manager.  It can do anything you want it to do and run any KDE, Gnome, Xfce app you want11:58
waspiusso if i start kdesktop in it then i can see them11:59
Hawkwindwaspius: Ummm no such thing11:59
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Hawkwindwaspius: IceWM does *not* put icons on the desktop, that's why11:59
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waspiusHawkwind: ok..so in order to do so dont i need a desktop?11:59
Hawkwindwaspius: That's part of how it becomes so lightweight.  Putting that junk on your desktop makes it bloated11:59
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Hawkwindwaspius: It won't happen11:59
Hawkwindwaspius: If you want junk on your desktop, then run KDE/Gnome12:00
utabhey guys, KDE keyboard lock so I can not type  anything12:00
waspiusHawkwind: i want to have my kde and have a second in icewm in which i will be able to put panels etc but which will use less resources then kde12:00
utabwhat might  be  the reason12:00
Hawkwindwaspius: Why on earth would you want downloaded files on your desktop anyways ?  Why not create a directory called ~/downloads and save stuff there12:00
Hawkwindwaspius: If you're using both, then you're using even more resources than just what KDE uses12:01
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waspiusHawkwind: no i will use one at a time12:01
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Hawkwindwaspius: I really don't understand what you are wanting/trying to do.  You should either run KDE as your wm/de or run something else, like IceWM, Fluxbox, E17, WindowMaker12:01
tomaczecHawkwind: new KDE does not put anything on it... beside hotplugs and that is what deserves to be seen on a desktop.12:01
waspiusHawkwind: i just wanted to make a different environment12:01
Hawkwindtomaczec: Sure it does12:01
grotheskHow do I set up a dial up connection?12:01
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Hawkwindwaspius: You won't get things on the desktop in IceWM.  That defeats the purpose of a lightweight window manager12:02
tomaczecHawkwind: not mine (dapper drake, kubuntu)12:02
waspiusHawkwind: ok the easiest question..i have downloaded new themes for it..how do i install them?12:02
Hawkwindtomaczec: If you save something in your ~/Desktop directory, it can/will put it on your desktop.  That's what he is talking about12:02
Hawkwindwaspius: http://icewm.org  and read the docs.  I've never used it.  Also, might join #IceWM12:02
waspiusi did join it but not much help..thanx though12:03
utabthe traffic of this group is not that busy like ubuntu12:03
Hawkwindwaspius: I believe there is an option in the middle click menu for changing themes though12:03
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grotheskIs there something like kinternet in kubuntu?12:03
Hawkwindutab: It's not intended to be12:03
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utabHawkwind yes,12:04
waspiusHawkwind: there is an option but the themes i downloaded went straight to my kde desktop so i do not know how to install them12:04
waspiusi will check the page u gave me though..it might become clearer to me12:04
Hawkwindwaspius: I told you what to do.  Make a directory in your users home directory called 'downloads' and move them there12:04
Hawkwindwaspius: Time to learn the terminal/CLI12:04
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utabHawkind, do you have any idea why I can not type in KDe12:05
Hawkwindwaspius: You can move those files you downloaded to another directory.  Though the theme manager should be able to search in ~/Desktop for the files12:05
phreakys_hello12:05
Hawkwindutab: Bad keyboard ?  Wrong settings in xorg.conf ?12:05
phreakys_i just installed compiz/xgl, looks wonderful!12:05
utabHawkwind but before I did not have any problems12:05
phreakys_windowborders dissappear though :/12:05
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waspiusHawkwind: ok..so the only way to check my downloads and install them etc is through the konsole not 3d12:06
waspius?12:06
utabHawkwind I used it without problems today logged in and can not type, magic ;)12:06
tomaczecutab: before?12:06
utabHawkwind yesterday12:06
utabHawkwind: this  morning magically sth wrong12:07
tomaczecutab: you can not type?12:07
utabHawkwind: mouse is OK, but can not type12:07
tomaczecutab: you type fast w/ your mouth.12:08
tomaczecs/mouth/mouse/12:08
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