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| msikma | So guys, which cursors (besides the hand cursors) am I still missing? | 12:25 |
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| msikma | http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/28695/cursorprogress.png | 12:25 |
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| PingunZ | cool, I just sent my first mail in the art-mailing list :) | 02:23 |
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| Viper550 | Hello everyone! | 05:20 |
| PingunZ | hi Viper550 | 05:21 |
| Viper550 | I just got the new build of the Murrine engine, I love the new glaze style option, looks nice! | 05:22 |
| Viper550 | I'm gonna log back into Gnome to take a new screenshot for the wiki page, brb | 05:24 |
| PingunZ | screenshot Viper550 ? | 05:24 |
| PingunZ | ok ;) | 05:24 |
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| Viper550 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Tropic Screenshot updated | 05:35 |
| PingunZ | nice | 05:39 |
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| msikma | http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/28695/loadinggnome.png | 05:57 |
| msikma | Another splash screen | 05:57 |
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| msikma | Hey PingunZ, what do you think of this? http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/28695/loadinggnome.png | 06:08 |
| PingunZ | hmm | 06:08 |
| PingunZ | msikma, its better than now | 06:08 |
| msikma | What would you change about it? | 06:08 |
| PingunZ | but I'd rather see an animated GDM | 06:08 |
| PingunZ | see, you have your gdm | 06:09 |
| PingunZ | enter details | 06:09 |
| PingunZ | and you get this kind of splash on top of the gdm | 06:09 |
| PingunZ | hmm, hard to explain :) | 06:09 |
| msikma | I see, but then would the GDM itself change or would the splash simply be tossed on top of it? | 06:09 |
| PingunZ | the gdm changes | 06:10 |
| msikma | If that is technically possible, I'd be all for it | 06:10 |
| PingunZ | :) | 06:10 |
| msikma | Right now, people first see a GRUB, then they see a usplash loading, and then they enter their password and then they see _another_ loading screen. | 06:10 |
| msikma | So if it's possible to do something about it, I'm fine with that. | 06:10 |
| PingunZ | well there is a cheat for it. just take the picture of the gdm and put your animation up there | 06:10 |
| PingunZ | but I'm not sure if its possible | 06:11 |
| msikma | That's possible, but it would break when someone'd change the GDM. | 06:11 |
| msikma | You also need to take into account different resolutions. | 06:11 |
| PingunZ | hmm | 06:11 |
| PingunZ | I'll google it | 06:11 |
| PingunZ | But just a normal splash isnt really a solution | 06:12 |
| PingunZ | cause ppl dont really like it | 06:12 |
| PingunZ | ( poll on ubuntuforums ) | 06:12 |
| msikma | If there isn't any other way, then it's the only solution. | 06:12 |
| msikma | Also, link me to that poll if you still have the link | 06:12 |
| PingunZ | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206465&highlight=splash+edgy | 06:13 |
| PingunZ | there must be another way :) | 06:13 |
| PingunZ | here is a nice idea too : While loging in you see some kind of animated GDM, while the desktop loads in the background. When it's finished loading, GDM smoothly fades to a fully loaded desktop... | 06:14 |
| PingunZ | Reply With Quote | 06:14 |
| PingunZ | hehe, I copied too much :) | 06:15 |
| msikma | Maybe I should make an animation of that sometime | 06:17 |
| PingunZ | somekind of xubuntu ? | 06:18 |
| PingunZ | I'd like to help you with that | 06:18 |
| PingunZ | msikma I took a look at the source of the xubuntu splash and I edited it slightly | 06:20 |
| msikma | I haven't seen Xubuntu's splash yet | 06:20 |
| PingunZ | well, its like a running mice in the xubuntu logo | 06:23 |
| PingunZ | its animated ;) | 06:23 |
| PingunZ | I can send it to you msikma :) | 06:24 |
| msikma | Sure | 06:24 |
| PingunZ | its not working or anything aight ;) | 06:26 |
| msikma | Can you send it to me now? I need to go for a while. | 06:28 |
| PingunZ | hmm | 06:28 |
| PingunZ | whats your email adress ? | 06:28 |
| PingunZ | I cant find you on launchpad | 06:29 |
| msikma | michiel@thingmajig.org | 06:29 |
| msikma | I'll be back later | 06:29 |
| msikma | And thanks in advance :) | 06:29 |
| PingunZ | msikma, its sending | 06:32 |
| PingunZ | I'm on edgy, unstable firefox and slow internet so it takes a while ;) | 06:34 |
| PingunZ | sent msikma | 06:37 |
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| Viper550 | PingunZ: You can't do animated splash screens | 06:53 |
| PingunZ | hmm | 06:58 |
| PingunZ | he was here 2 seconds .. | 06:58 |
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| cbx33 | hi all | 07:30 |
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| fschoep | troy_s: ping! | 08:40 |
| troy_s | there he is! | 08:40 |
| troy_s | woot. great timing frank... just speccing... pm me | 08:40 |
| fschoep | With one problem :) | 08:40 |
| troy_s | oh no | 08:40 |
| troy_s | what is it? | 08:41 |
| fschoep | I'm packing my bags for Wiesbaden right now and in an hour I need to play yet another gig with my band :( | 08:41 |
| fschoep | I just wanted to see you :) | 08:41 |
| fschoep | Let's say I've got fifteen minutes, is that cool? | 08:41 |
| troy_s | Dammit. | 08:42 |
| troy_s | Yeah sounds great. | 08:42 |
| fschoep | OK, I PMed you. | 08:42 |
| fschoep | I see :0 | 08:42 |
| msikma | Hey Frank, any crits on this? http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/28695/loadinggnome.png | 08:52 |
| fschoep | msikma: Looking good, although I'm not sure if we can control the placing of the icons and text. I also think the splash can only have 1-bit transparency. | 08:57 |
| msikma | Pff. Limitations, limitations, limitations... | 08:57 |
| msikma | And the boot-up background color is always the same? | 08:57 |
| msikma | Er, *not always the same | 08:57 |
| fschoep | I'm sorry we have these limitations, maybe I can try and alleviate them or something. | 08:58 |
| msikma | I'll see if I can get a benevolent developer over at #ubuntu-devel to lurk in here to maybe say those sort of things every now and then. | 08:59 |
| msikma | Whether something is possible or not | 08:59 |
| troy_s | Currently, what is possible is quite well documented. | 09:15 |
| troy_s | Newer concepts will require good speccing and a decent following to implement. | 09:16 |
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| troy_s | Greetings Pyrotica | 09:33 |
| Pyrotica | hello | 09:38 |
| troy_s | New here? | 09:44 |
| Pyrotica | Yeah, and it's been almost a decade since I've used irc. It's amazing what you forget. | 09:46 |
| troy_s | indeed... | 09:47 |
| troy_s | good place for brainstorming however. | 09:47 |
| troy_s | same for myself... but the Ubuntu devs and such use IRC quite extensively. | 09:47 |
| Pyrotica | I'm sure. Just taking a look around the ubuntu channels, really. I do enjoy some themeing work, so maybe I will be able to contribute. | 09:48 |
| troy_s | What aspects of theming are you familiar with?> | 09:48 |
| Pyrotica | Cut and paste :) | 09:48 |
| troy_s | Laf. | 09:49 |
| Pyrotica | most of what I have done was with gdm themes. | 09:49 |
| troy_s | GTK or Metacity? | 09:49 |
| troy_s | Ahh yes... | 09:49 |
| troy_s | The documentation is lacking in that department from what I have found. | 09:49 |
| troy_s | Although I have managed to get a few airborne. | 09:49 |
| troy_s | And I have learned some of the internals. | 09:49 |
| Pyrotica | but all of my gtk and metacity themes have seen the ctrl-x ctrl-v intimatly. | 09:50 |
| troy_s | laf | 09:50 |
| Pyrotica | for me it was quite a bit of experimentation. | 09:50 |
| troy_s | I think that is how it starts for everyone. | 09:50 |
| Pyrotica | With gdm themes, I started with the dapper login, and the login box stretches wout and looks less than perfect when you have an timed login, and thats where it started. | 09:51 |
| troy_s | Well the gdm end is largely png based. | 09:52 |
| Pyrotica | I've probably done a dozen since then, with varing degrees of originality. | 09:52 |
| troy_s | I have been trying to research a little more on the metacity theming using drawing techniques, but there are some details that are tough to learn. | 09:52 |
| troy_s | GTK is a nightmare because of the legacy kludges you need to work in. | 09:53 |
| troy_s | But pretty straightforwards. | 09:53 |
| Pyrotica | well, the images I could handle, but I was not at all familure with xml when I started. | 09:53 |
| troy_s | It's nice having it now though, eh? | 09:53 |
| troy_s | Very nice to be able to look at everything and understand it. | 09:53 |
| Pyrotica | It's still a little hit and miss sometimes, when you learn it by example, it can make it a little difficult to get the overall picture. the basic rules were easy and the structures great, but when I start trying to place things, well, I do alot of testing. | 09:55 |
| troy_s | Would you be at all interesting in getting a wiki started? | 09:55 |
| troy_s | s/interesting/interested | 09:55 |
| Pyrotica | For gdm theming? | 09:56 |
| troy_s | Yes. | 09:56 |
| Pyrotica | Sure. | 09:56 |
| troy_s | That would be wonderful. | 09:56 |
| troy_s | You know about this resource I assume: | 09:56 |
| Pyrotica | I'm not much of a technical writer, but I can try. | 09:56 |
| troy_s | http://www.coccia.com/blog/index.php?p=51&more=1 | 09:57 |
| troy_s | If you get the information in there, I will happily edit it when I get time. | 09:57 |
| troy_s | Ubuntu specifics are good | 09:57 |
| troy_s | http://www.coccia.com/blog/index.php?p=51&more=1 | 09:57 |
| troy_s | GRR | 09:58 |
| troy_s | not that one... | 09:58 |
| troy_s | http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials | 09:58 |
| troy_s | Those two links are quite a good starting point, and perhaps you can locate something you didn't already know. | 09:58 |
| Pyrotica | Yes, I have. Both actually. The gnome link is the only reason I managed to package what I had. If you'd like a link I can show you one of my favored one. | 09:59 |
| Pyrotica | one/ones | 09:59 |
| troy_s | that would be great if you could add the links to the documentation section | 10:00 |
| troy_s | in artwork | 10:00 |
| Pyrotica | I meant a theme, I haven't found any other resources really, other than other themes. | 10:01 |
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| Pyrotica | Would you want to do this on the ubuntu wiki, or something like a pbwiki? | 10:02 |
| troy_s | pyrotica -- just make it on the ubuntu wiki | 10:11 |
| troy_s | under /Artwork/Incoming | 10:11 |
| troy_s | wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming | 10:11 |
| troy_s | wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Foobar | 10:11 |
| Pyrotica | alright, let me get in there. I'm making dinner at the moment, so I may have to step away without notice. | 10:14 |
| Pyrotica | sorry about that. | 10:14 |
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| kwwii_ | hi | 10:24 |
| Pyrotica | hello. | 10:24 |
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