geser | as far as I see it, a sync wouldn't help much | 12:09 |
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geser | from http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gnome-osd/gnome-osd_0.11.2-3.diff.gz: | 12:10 |
geser | Depends: ${misc:Depends}, ${python:Depends}, python2.4-dbus (>= 0.60), python-pyorbit-omg, python2.4-pyorbit-omg, python-gnome2, python2.4-gnome2, python-gtk2, python2.4-gtk2 | 12:10 |
geser | the versioned depends on python2.4-dbus is still there | 12:10 |
crimsun | that's purportedly a bug in the python policy. | 12:11 |
geser | in edgy python2.4-dbus is only provided by python-dbus not a real package | 12:12 |
crimsun | right, you'll just have to remerge it. | 12:13 |
crimsun | well, I mucked up the assignment, so I'll handle it. | 12:14 |
crimsun | geser: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edgy-changes/2006-August/004097.html | 12:32 |
bluefoxicy | ................................................... | 12:32 |
bluefoxicy | is sounder ubuntu-sounder@ or just sounder@ | 12:33 |
bluefoxicy | I tried google. Mark Shuttleworth has now confirmed on the ubuntu-sounder mailing list > that he has not eaten a lot of babies. | 12:33 |
crimsun | sounder@ | 12:33 |
bluefoxicy | thanks. | 12:33 |
geser | is some here familiar with gcj and g++? | 12:35 |
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|Prezu| | I've just uploaded a Kadu package to REVU, but I forgot to add a "-sa" option to dpkg-buildpackage, so... there's no .orig.tag.gz... | 12:38 |
|Prezu| | Could someone please help me with that? | 12:39 |
crimsun | regenerate the _source.changes, and dput -f | 12:39 |
|Prezu| | crimsun: http://kadu.net/~patryk/tmp/dput.log | 12:41 |
|Prezu| | crimsun: Do I have to remove existing .dsc with dcut somehow? | 12:43 |
crimsun | no, just dput -f | 12:44 |
ajmitch | morning | 12:44 |
crimsun | hi ajmitch. | 12:44 |
crimsun | |Prezu|: ajmitch is a revu admin; he may can help. | 12:45 |
ajmitch | |Prezu|: if you interrupted the upload, it needs deleted manually | 12:45 |
ajmitch | do you want the partial upload removed? | 12:46 |
|Prezu| | ajmitch: Yes, please. :) | 12:46 |
ajmitch | done | 12:49 |
|Prezu| | thanks. :) | 12:49 |
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imbrandon | heya everyone | 01:01 |
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geser | when a package needs only a rebuild to get the depends uptodate, all I need to change is the changelog mentioning the rebuild? | 01:04 |
Toadstool | g'night | 01:11 |
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imbrandon | gnight Toadstool | 01:25 |
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ajmitch | imbrandon: how could you? | 01:38 |
ajmitch | making people think that they'll get kde 4 in edgy... | 01:39 |
imbrandon | huh ? | 01:39 |
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imbrandon | ajmitch: Riddell said its a possibility in universe for a preview | 01:39 |
imbrandon | heh, i'll edit it, hold on | 01:39 |
imbrandon | "just in case" | 01:40 |
imbrandon | ajmitch: heh changed, give it 5 minutes to show up on planet | 01:41 |
imbrandon | ajmitch: what do you have a constant rss notifier for planet ? heh , i couldent have posted that a minute before you said something ;) | 01:42 |
ajmitch | imbrandon: mugshot | 01:43 |
ajmitch | pops up on the desktop for fridge & planet articles | 01:43 |
imbrandon | mugshot ? mine or a program ? | 01:43 |
imbrandon | ahh | 01:43 |
imbrandon | cool | 01:43 |
ajmitch | so when will kde 4 be released? 12 months? | 01:47 |
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imbrandon | heh the final rc should be late oct | 01:52 |
ajmitch | people that file wishlist bugs as specs | 01:52 |
ajmitch | imbrandon: and how much work still needs done on things like plasma? | 01:52 |
imbrandon | afaik a ton but a ton has been done too | 01:52 |
imbrandon | plasma is probably the laste developed so far | 01:52 |
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imbrandon | solid is lookin good though | 01:53 |
imbrandon | yea its ambitious all right but i dont think it will be THAT late | 01:53 |
ajmitch | heh | 01:53 |
imbrandon | personaly i'm thinking by the end of the year | 01:53 |
imbrandon | just from what i've seen | 01:53 |
ajmitch | from what I've read, there hasn't been nearly enough done on plasma to release it in ~2 months | 01:54 |
imbrandon | true , heh i just knew thats what they "said" on the ML and other places hehehe like i said end of the year is more likely | 01:54 |
ajmitch | though kde are probably another project that abuse the term RC | 01:55 |
imbrandon | hahah yea | 01:55 |
imbrandon | ohh 200th episode of sg-1 is on tongiht | 01:55 |
imbrandon | looks like i need to bust out the lappy | 01:56 |
imbrandon | fskin wireless stoped working on it the other day | 01:56 |
ajmitch | haha | 01:56 |
imbrandon | well wireless in linux | 01:56 |
ajmitch | reading the mailing list - no roadmap because of aseigo continually getting asked about status | 01:56 |
imbrandon | osx still works so its something with the driver i'm sure | 01:56 |
imbrandon | hahaha | 01:56 |
ajmitch | seems to be a continual stream of 'are we there yet?' posts on the panel-devel list | 01:57 |
imbrandon | yea thats why alot of them stoped being anwsered | 01:58 |
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imbrandon | but alot of that is becouse there is no set road map | 01:58 |
ajmitch | which aseigo refuses to provide | 01:58 |
ajmitch | with good reason, it seems | 01:59 |
imbrandon | yup, catch 22 thats good i ways ;) | 01:59 |
imbrandon | in* | 01:59 |
ajmitch | who knows, there may be kde 4 in time for edgy+1 then | 02:00 |
imbrandon | yea i think so | 02:01 |
imbrandon | it should build fine in edgy ( thats one of our goals is to make it compile clean by edgys release ) but probably wont hit the repos till edgy+1 | 02:01 |
ajmitch | you're still asking for pain | 02:02 |
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imbrandon | hehe hold on , lemme grab my lappy, show's comming on | 02:03 |
imbrandon | i ran kde from cvs in the 2.x days | 02:03 |
imbrandon | on redhat | 02:03 |
imbrandon | heh | 02:03 |
ajmitch | yes, I was doing this on mandrake | 02:03 |
imbrandon | i rember DAYS to compile | 02:04 |
imbrandon | lol | 02:04 |
ajmitch | I still have that box here | 02:04 |
ajmitch | not that it works | 02:04 |
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bddebian | Heya gang | 02:11 |
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imbrandon_ | ... | 02:12 |
bddebian | Heya imbrandon | 02:12 |
imbrandon_ | heya bddebian | 02:13 |
bddebian | shawarma: Still around? | 02:14 |
imbrandon_ | heh i'm in Stargate mode tonight, the "Behind" SG-1 is on right now, and SG-1 200th epsidode is on after that and the new Stargate Atlantis is on after that heh | 02:15 |
bddebian | Oh joy :-) | 02:15 |
imbrandon_ | stargate is almost as good as st:tng ;) | 02:15 |
bddebian | Anyone have any requests before I get to "work"? :-) | 02:15 |
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imbrandon_ | not i bddebian ;) | 02:16 |
bddebian | Bah, you're no help :-) | 02:17 |
ajmitch | bddebian: fix the universe | 02:17 |
bddebian | ajmitch: Merges, bugs, what? :-) | 02:18 |
bddebian | crimsun: Did you already do openct? | 02:18 |
crimsun | bddebian: no | 02:18 |
bddebian | How do we even stuff in to dapper-updates? | 02:18 |
crimsun | bddebian: oh, you meant the triaging part? Yes, I did that. | 02:19 |
ajmitch | talk to mdz | 02:19 |
crimsun | I generated a debdiff and subbed ubuntu-release | 02:19 |
ajmitch | or prepare a well-tested update & subscribe ubuntu-release | 02:19 |
bddebian | crimsun: Ah, OK | 02:19 |
bddebian | thx | 02:19 |
ajmitch | getting a response is another matter | 02:20 |
bddebian | Hmm what to do then.. | 02:20 |
bddebian | Damn I swore I already did something with libnss-ldap | 02:21 |
ajmitch | quite probably | 02:22 |
StevenK | bddebian: Purged it like the POS it is? | 02:22 |
bddebian | Heh, no requested a sync or so | 02:22 |
bddebian | StevenK: Speaking of which, are you going to merge pygtkmvc StevenK? | 02:22 |
crimsun | hmm, interesting UI change in quod libet 0.23 | 02:22 |
ajmitch | bddebian: bug 55737 | 02:23 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 55737 in libnss-ldap "[Sync Request] libnss-ldap 251-5" [Untriaged,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55737 | 02:23 |
bddebian | OH yeah, thx ajmitch | 02:24 |
bddebian | ajmitch: How did you find that rejected bug? When I did a search for bugs on libnss-ldap it didn't show up | 02:28 |
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ajmitch | simple | 02:28 |
ajmitch | the little link that says 'All bugs ever reported' | 02:29 |
bddebian | Uhm.. hmm | 02:30 |
bddebian | Oh | 02:31 |
bddebian | Hmm, I wonder why she rejected xbvl? | 02:31 |
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StevenK | bddebian: I'd like to, but it was NMU'd, which makes it harder. | 02:45 |
StevenK | bddebian: It can probably be synced, but 0.9.2-1.1 < 0.9.2-1ubuntu1 | 02:45 |
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welshbyte | bddebian: well suggestions are welcome :) | 02:48 |
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bddebian | welshbyte: See if you can package a newer gnu-smalltalk from upstream? :-) | 02:49 |
bddebian | OK, what am I doing wrong here? dpkg --compare-versions 0.9.2-1.1 > 0.9.2-1ubuntu1 | 02:49 |
ajmitch | > is special | 02:50 |
ajmitch | you just created a file called 0.9.2-1ubuntu1 | 02:50 |
welshbyte | hehe | 02:50 |
bddebian | Oh yeah, hehe | 02:50 |
welshbyte | bddebian: sounds like a challenge... *gulp* | 02:50 |
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bddebian | ajmitch: OK, how do I grab what --compare-versions outputs? | 02:51 |
StevenK | dpkg --compare-versions 0.9.2-1.1 gt 0.9.2-1ubuntu1 && echo 'yes' | 02:52 |
StevenK | Or use a shell that actually tells you when things exit non zero. | 02:52 |
StevenK | steven@liquified:~% grep notfound debian/linda/trunk/debian/changelog | 02:52 |
StevenK | zsh: exit 1 grep notfound debian/linda/trunk/debian/changelog | 02:52 |
bddebian | StevenK: Well according to that -1.1 is gt 1ubuntu1 | 02:53 |
ajmitch | bddebian: which is what StevenK said several minutes ago | 02:53 |
ajmitch | actually no | 02:53 |
StevenK | I tested this before, I'm sure of it. | 02:54 |
StevenK | Maybe it was for a different NMU. | 02:54 |
bddebian | Well I didn't think 1.1 was lt 1ubuntu1 | 02:54 |
bddebian | But I'm not so smart ya know | 02:54 |
ajmitch | character strings are meant to be less than nearly everything | 02:54 |
StevenK | bddebian: Anyway, you're right, I'll look it soonish. | 02:54 |
bddebian | NP | 02:55 |
StevenK | at it, damn it all | 02:55 |
bddebian | StevenK: And what about inn2? | 02:56 |
StevenK | Which doesn't appear on the MoM page. | 02:57 |
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bddebian | inn2? | 02:57 |
StevenK | Heh, I don't remember merging/syncing inn2. | 02:57 |
bddebian | hehe | 02:57 |
bddebian | I can look at it if you want | 02:58 |
welshbyte | bddebian: were you referring to bug #887 ? | 02:58 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 887 in gnu-smalltalk "blox-tk was not built because of bad tkConfig.sh" [Unknown,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/887 | 02:58 |
bddebian | welshbyte: Well sort of. That actually needs a rebuilt tcl8.3 or some such. I just noticed that gnu-smalltalk is out of date in Debian and Ubuntu | 02:58 |
welshbyte | ah i see | 02:59 |
StevenK | bddebian: I'm more than happy to, but I'd just like to know why you know it needs looking at. | 02:59 |
bddebian | StevenK: http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | 03:00 |
StevenK | Ah. | 03:01 |
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bddebian | Ack, it hasn't been updated since hoary | 03:03 |
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bddebian | Hi Hobbsee | 03:07 |
bddebian | Hobbsee: Why did you reject your xbvl sync request? | 03:07 |
Hobbsee | hi bddebian | 03:07 |
Hobbsee | bddebian: ah, because at the time, it ftbfs, iirc? | 03:07 |
bddebian | Hmm, OK | 03:07 |
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Hobbsee | bddebian: did you make it build? | 03:07 |
bddebian | Hobbsee: I didn't try yet because you had requested it :-) | 03:08 |
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bddebian | If debian-edu is 0.806 is 0.806-0ubuntu1 appropriate or 0.806ubuntu1 as dholbach did? | 03:16 |
Hobbsee | bddebian: ah yes, but i hit reject | 03:17 |
welshbyte | if it came from debian then i guess it ould be thought of as 0-0.806 with the 0- chopped off so i'd go with 0.806ubuntu1 :) | 03:18 |
welshbyte | s/ould/could/ | 03:18 |
Hobbsee | bddebian: it's annoying to do it that way | 03:18 |
bddebian | Hobbsee: Which way? | 03:19 |
Hobbsee | bddebian: it messes with the version numbers, for the next sync | 03:19 |
Hobbsee | 0.806ubuntu1 | 03:19 |
Hobbsee | seeing as u will beat - | 03:19 |
Hobbsee | so the debian version cant be synced across, as the ubuntu version is newer | 03:19 |
Hobbsee | unless it moves to 0.807 | 03:19 |
ajmitch | which is likely | 03:19 |
Hobbsee | true that | 03:20 |
ajmitch | since it's intended to be a native package | 03:20 |
bddebian | Well it will never be syncable anyway since it uses Debian sources.lists :-) | 03:20 |
bddebian | So, what's the consensus, 0.806ubuntu1? | 03:20 |
Hobbsee | bddebian: ah right, that's okay then | 03:21 |
Hobbsee | bddebian: why not send our changes to them? | 03:22 |
Hobbsee | maybe send our apt-setup to them :P | 03:22 |
Hobbsee | oh dear, a lot more people running ubuntu now :P | 03:22 |
Fujitsu | Haha. | 03:22 |
bddebian | How the hell does bluefoxicy pass me on Top Contributors? Does he actually contribute anything? ;-P | 03:22 |
Hobbsee | heh | 03:23 |
Hobbsee | bddebian: i think i beat you too? | 03:23 |
Hobbsee | it's probably on crack though. | 03:23 |
bluefoxicy | bddebian: when the hell DO I contribute anything | 03:24 |
bddebian | bluefoxicy: That's what I'm asking :-) | 03:24 |
bddebian | Hobbsee: What's on crack? | 03:25 |
Hobbsee | bddebian: those stats | 03:25 |
bddebian | Ah | 03:25 |
Hobbsee | bddebian: i dont remember who did them, but they warned at the time, that hte first version was a bit crazy, and likely wasnt right | 03:25 |
Hobbsee | it looks like bits have been added to it now though | 03:25 |
bddebian | Hobbsee: Are you implying that it isn't possible that I'm ahead of you? :-) | 03:27 |
Hobbsee | bddebian: no, not at all :P | 03:27 |
bddebian | I don't even know who Jeff Bailes is :-) | 03:28 |
welshbyte | is feature freeze the deadline for syncing from debian or universe freeze? | 03:29 |
ajmitch | universe freeze | 03:30 |
ajmitch | after that you need exceptions for new upstream releases | 03:30 |
welshbyte | good good | 03:30 |
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Hobbsee | oh yeah, fo rmain | 03:30 |
ajmitch | yes, the important parts of the distro, where features generally get developer time | 03:31 |
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bddebian | Hobbsee: Ah yes, xbvl wants GLw and we don't ship those anymore.. | 03:34 |
bddebian | How can you figure out what FEATURES are available to /configure --disable-FEATURE ? | 03:35 |
ajmitch | look in configure.ac or configure.in | 03:36 |
bddebian | Aye but what do I look for? | 03:36 |
Hobbsee | bddebian: that's the one | 03:36 |
ajmitch | stuff | 03:36 |
bddebian | Wow, thx | 03:36 |
Hobbsee | heh | 03:36 |
Hobbsee | useful | 03:36 |
ajmitch | seriously, just have a look | 03:37 |
bddebian | But what am I looking FOR? | 03:37 |
welshbyte | "--disable" | 03:38 |
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Hobbsee | GLw? | 03:38 |
Hobbsee | :P | 03:38 |
bddebian | Well GLw gets added if MESA is enabled, it's not seperate afaict | 03:38 |
Hobbsee | guess you shouldnt disable mesa? | 03:39 |
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bddebian | I was wondering about that | 03:40 |
bddebian | I thought about just removing -lGLw but I am not quite sure what that would break | 03:40 |
crimsun | bddebian: / bluefoxicy: spec-tracking. | 03:48 |
bddebian | Ah, well for Edgy+1 I'm doing nothing but specs.. ;-P | 03:48 |
crimsun | what's the problem with GLw? | 03:49 |
bddebian | They were removed from the mesa-swx package in main | 03:50 |
bluefoxicy | oh | 03:50 |
bluefoxicy | yeah | 03:50 |
bluefoxicy | I actually have like 6 specs I didn't actually submit as specs | 03:50 |
bluefoxicy | because I'm quite well aware it won't happen. | 03:51 |
bluefoxicy | also tseng will come to my house and nail me to the wall | 03:51 |
bddebian | Sweet, can I watch :-) | 03:51 |
crimsun | bddebian: mesa now provides libgl1-mesa-swx11-dev and mesa-swx11-source | 03:51 |
bluefoxicy | with a hammer and nails >.> | 03:51 |
bluefoxicy | geeze bddebian :P | 03:51 |
crimsun | bluefoxicy: just remind him of BdDebianIsAGod. | 03:51 |
bddebian | crimsun: Aye but the GLw lib files were removed | 03:52 |
crimsun | it's humourous, because everything he does contradicts his protests. :-p | 03:52 |
bluefoxicy | heh | 03:52 |
bddebian | crimsun: What? | 03:52 |
bddebian | My protests? | 03:52 |
bluefoxicy | crimsun: i'm thinking of looking to see if there's a fast reboot/kexec spec yet | 03:52 |
tseng | h/me wakes up | 03:53 |
bluefoxicy | if you saw my post on -devel@ | 03:53 |
crimsun | bddebian: e.g., your current karma rank as a Ubuntu contributor nullifies your claim that you don't do anything | 03:53 |
bddebian | bluefoxicy: Why not build or fix some packages instead? | 03:53 |
tseng | i am too busy upgrading my 770 to fool around with bluefoxicy | 03:53 |
bddebian | Heya tseng | 03:53 |
tseng | hi | 03:53 |
bddebian | crimsun: Well apparently I don't do anything "worthwhile" | 03:53 |
tseng | 770 rules | 03:53 |
bluefoxicy | uh | 03:53 |
bluefoxicy | I am not even going to try to read what he just said. | 03:53 |
crimsun | bddebian: except for hoard karma points ;-p | 03:54 |
bluefoxicy | bddebian: I do stuff like http://lwn.net/Articles/192082/ to try to get useful stuff on the devs' screens :P | 03:54 |
bluefoxicy | and let them figure out how to make it happen | 03:55 |
bddebian | crimsun: Oh yeah, that's worhtwhile | 04:02 |
bddebian | So are Mesa and OpenGL different "things" or is Mesa an implementation of the OpenGL standard? | 04:03 |
tseng | mesa is a version of opengl | 04:04 |
tseng | in software | 04:04 |
ajmitch | that can use DRI for hardware acceleration | 04:04 |
ajmitch | unlike nvidia who decide to supply a full GL implementation with their drivers | 04:05 |
tseng | (nvidia-glx) | 04:05 |
bluefoxicy | mesa is opengl using whatever's around. If nothing's around it uses software. | 04:05 |
bluefoxicy | on various platforms Mesa uses various things; on Linux, it uses DRI in X. | 04:05 |
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bddebian | Ah, thx | 04:07 |
bluefoxicy | Hopefully somebody standardizes some sort of OpenGL "is this feature here" function like in DirectX | 04:08 |
bddebian | Sacriledge :-) | 04:08 |
bluefoxicy | OpenGL is super-abstract. If a feature isn't around, it emulates it in software. | 04:09 |
bddebian | shawarma: You really there or just a re-connect? | 04:09 |
bluefoxicy | You can never know if a feature isn't there | 04:09 |
bluefoxicy | so you just shoot and hope you hit hardware instead of software. | 04:09 |
bluefoxicy | directX has a command that lets you ask it if a particular feature is available; if it's not, then you can work around it, just not enable it | 04:09 |
bddebian | Damnit, it actually uses GLw functions :-( | 04:10 |
bddebian | sudo rm -rf xbvl | 04:11 |
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ajmitch | excellent, more broken backports | 04:16 |
ajmitch | how I hate it what that happens | 04:16 |
ajmitch | nexu: no, it's not your fault this time - in this case it's compiz-related :) | 04:17 |
nexu | lol | 04:17 |
ajmitch | someone decided it'd be a great idea to backport vte | 04:18 |
ajmitch | except there's an SONAME change, which breaks any app that uses it | 04:18 |
Yagisan | nice. | 04:19 |
Gloubiboulga | so this is what breaks synaptic | 04:19 |
bddebian | Heya Gloubiboulga | 04:19 |
Yagisan | I thought backports are supposed to be tested first | 04:19 |
ajmitch | Gloubiboulga: yep | 04:19 |
ajmitch | Yagisan: third-party backports | 04:19 |
Gloubiboulga | there's been a lot of "bug reports" in the fr community | 04:19 |
Gloubiboulga | hello bddebian | 04:19 |
Yagisan | ajmitch, ah, like if someone is dumb and grabs my mplayer for dapper | 04:20 |
bddebian | I wonder if janimo would get upset if I tried xfce4-goodies | 04:21 |
Yagisan | ajmitch, complete with inablity to play dvds ;) | 04:21 |
Gloubiboulga | bddebian, go ahead | 04:21 |
tseng | hello Yagisan | 04:21 |
welshbyte | bddebian: did we fix bug #43359 yesterday? | 04:21 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 43359 in prismstumbler "no man page" [Unknown,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/43359 | 04:21 |
crimsun | bddebian: if you break it, I'll kill ALL your cows. | 04:22 |
Yagisan | G'day tseng | 04:22 |
bddebian | welshbyte: Yes, did I not close that one? | 04:22 |
welshbyte | bddebian: still on "confirmed" | 04:22 |
bddebian | welshbyte: Ah, please close | 04:22 |
bddebian | Heya bmonty | 04:23 |
bmonty | hey bddebian | 04:23 |
bddebian | crimsun: Fine I won't touch it then, thanks | 04:23 |
Yagisan | hey guys, is there an idiots guide to contest so I can add some amd boxes to the Optimised kernel thread ? | 04:27 |
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bddebian | OK obviously popplerkit.framework is fsckd | 04:30 |
Fujitsu | Yay for fscked things. | 04:30 |
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crimsun | 15:41 < bddebian> FIX IT! :-) | 04:30 |
crimsun | so bddebian, fix it. | 04:31 |
Fujitsu | Anybody got an idea why my Dell Inspiron 630m's CD drive won't automount when inserted, nor detect an audio CD at all? | 04:31 |
Fujitsu | Silly Edgy... | 04:31 |
Fujitsu | Works fine with Hoary->Dapper. | 04:31 |
crimsun | did you disable the automount options in g-v-m (presume you're using gnome)? | 04:32 |
Fujitsu | No, they're all enabled, and yes I'm using Gnome :) | 04:32 |
Fujitsu | I don't use the CD drive much, so I didn't notice when it broke. | 04:33 |
bddebian | crimsun: I was looking but afaict it's gone from upstream :-( | 04:33 |
welshbyte | bddebian: um, looks like the man page doesn't get installed... doesn't dh_installman need to be told which file to install? | 04:35 |
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bddebian | welshbyte: Uhm yeah. In my excitement I think I forgot to actually install it :-( | 04:43 |
Fujitsu | It seems that gstreamer 0.10 has issues with reading audio CDs, whereas 0.8 works fine... Presumably 0.10 utilises some part of the thing that's not detecting the CDs, whereas 0.8 doesn't... | 04:45 |
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welshbyte | bddebian: oh well, no harm done :) | 04:47 |
welshbyte | right i'm off to bed, good night all | 04:48 |
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bddebian | WTH is diff --git ? | 05:17 |
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lwylie | hello everyone | 05:27 |
bddebian | Hello lwylie | 05:29 |
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bddebian | Ggaaaahhh | 05:32 |
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bddebian | ajmitch: C'mon man, I need help :-( | 05:40 |
ajmitch | then ask a question | 05:40 |
bddebian | I did | 05:40 |
bddebian | WTH is diff --git ? | 05:40 |
ajmitch | and you mentioned that it was from debian/patches | 05:41 |
bddebian | tulip has .diff files in debian/patches that start with diff --git which isn't even a valid option | 05:41 |
ajmitch | which implies that it's in the patch header, and is ignored when applying patches | 05:41 |
ajmitch | so what is the actual problem? | 05:41 |
bddebian | I need to add a patch and I'm not sure how to do it | 05:41 |
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ajmitch | so where do you see this? in current edgy source, or debian? | 05:43 |
bddebian | Latest debian | 05:43 |
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ajmitch | ah yes, changelog does have the details | 05:45 |
ajmitch | grab stgit | 05:46 |
ajmitch | though you can probably manage fine just creating a patch the usual way | 05:46 |
ajmitch | patches seem to be applied already, and are in debian/patches just for documenting the changes | 05:47 |
ajmitch | it doesn't appear that the maintainer ships the necessary git tree | 05:48 |
bddebian | Aye, I was just reading the bug | 05:50 |
bddebian | Apparently they are supposed to be packaging 2.0.5 EVENTUALLY so I may bag off of it | 05:50 |
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ajmitch | which I should really add to mine | 05:51 |
bddebian | :-) | 05:52 |
bddebian | Damnit, now I'm demotived :-( | 05:52 |
bddebian | Sorry to bug you ajmitch | 05:52 |
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bddebian | Gnight folks | 06:50 |
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Plug | Hi all | 07:44 |
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ajmitch | hi Plug | 07:47 |
Plug | you're the only person whos ever awake here in NZST :) | 07:47 |
Plug | I'm just heading out for the evening, but anyone interested in PPTP might want to have a look at http://craig.dubculture.co.nz/blog/ | 07:47 |
Plug | i'm in the process of pushing it towards REVU tomorrow, all goign well | 07:48 |
ajmitch | 'out for the evening' means off to watch the rugby? :) | 07:48 |
Plug | not really, going to a bbq. unsure if the rugby will be on, I don't care all that much about the sport personally | 07:48 |
Plug | Cricket is where my head is at | 07:48 |
StevenK | Oh, that reminds me. | 07:48 |
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ajmitch | Plug: yeah, might as well push it to REVU | 07:49 |
ajmitch | it'll be easier to check over then | 07:49 |
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Arbiter | heya all! | 09:01 |
Arbiter | i'm finally back from my 21-days vacation :) | 09:01 |
imbrandon | wb Arbiter | 09:08 |
imbrandon | heya TheMuso | 09:08 |
Arbiter | :) | 09:11 |
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imbrandon | ajmitch or StevenK care to look over http://pastebin.ca/138530 before i submit it to my DD to check again | 09:20 |
imbrandon | ( or if your feeling like it go ahead and sponsor me LOL ) | 09:21 |
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imbrandon | wb Hobbsee | 09:23 |
Arbiter | Hobbsee!!! :D | 09:23 |
Burgundavia | hey Hobbsee | 09:24 |
Hobbsee | hey imbrandon, Arbiter :) | 09:24 |
Hobbsee | hi Burgundavia :) | 09:24 |
sladen | Burgundavia: give us the low-down on Ubucon | 09:25 |
Arbiter | uhm... kdocker was approved but not added to the NEW queue | 09:25 |
sladen | Burgundavia: what's happening today? | 09:25 |
Burgundavia | sladen: it was good and will be good tomorrow. I will blog tomorrow | 09:25 |
Burgundavia | we talked | 09:25 |
Burgundavia | Jane gave out tshirts. Drank free google beer | 09:25 |
Arbiter | ah... uhm... a build failure... | 09:25 |
imbrandon | Burgundavia: nice | 09:25 |
Burgundavia | whip|lwe talked about large deployments | 09:25 |
Hobbsee | Arbiter: heh. that'd be why | 09:25 |
Burgundavia | google has nice headquarters | 09:26 |
imbrandon | did whip|lwe finaly blog ? | 09:26 |
Burgundavia | not yet | 09:26 |
imbrandon | hehe ;) | 09:26 |
Burgundavia | he has gone to bed | 09:26 |
sladen | Burgundavia: what do the new t-shirts look like? | 09:26 |
Burgundavia | on the front, ubuntu logo over the name | 09:26 |
Burgundavia | on the back "Do you Ubuntu?' | 09:26 |
Arbiter | Hobbsee: i'll try the build in an updated pbuilder | 09:26 |
Burgundavia | I got asked in the bar last night about what ubuntu was | 09:26 |
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Burgundavia | they are a light tan colour | 09:27 |
imbrandon | hahah cool Burgundavia | 09:27 |
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sladen | Burgundavia: "wanna find out, nudge, nudge, wink, wink" | 09:27 |
Hobbsee | Arbiter: you mean you werent already? | 09:27 |
Burgundavia | given I was seriously pissed, I have no idea if I was coherent | 09:27 |
Arbiter | Hobbsee: yup | 09:27 |
imbrandon | lol | 09:27 |
Hobbsee | Arbiter: what was the build log? | 09:27 |
Arbiter | i've alredy tested it in pbuilder | 09:27 |
Hobbsee | s/what/where/? | 09:27 |
sladen | "it's like a pirate copy of MS Windows, but legal. BTW, *you* are legal, aren't you?" | 09:28 |
Arbiter | but i didn't have that problem (read kdocker comments) | 09:28 |
Burgundavia | and then mdz sang with the transexual bar singer | 09:28 |
Burgundavia | it was great | 09:28 |
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Arbiter | i can't reproduce that error.... my last build in the pbuilder environment worked | 09:29 |
sladen | Burgundavia: got any memories from the Penguin Bowl? | 09:29 |
Burgundavia | yes, we handed Novell their asses. It was hilarious | 09:29 |
sladen | Burgundavia: any favourite questions? Or can you remember the final score? | 09:29 |
Burgundavia | 25000k to 21000k | 09:29 |
Burgundavia | they did well in the final question | 09:29 |
Burgundavia | it was 14000 to 9000 going into that one | 09:30 |
Burgundavia | the novell guys were shocked whip|lwe and I were community members | 09:30 |
imbrandon | yea thats what whip|lwe said earlier | 09:30 |
sladen | Burgundavia: they didn't think anyone else would do it for free? | 09:30 |
Burgundavia | no idea | 09:31 |
imbrandon | lol | 09:31 |
Burgundavia | malcolm was brilliant | 09:31 |
Burgundavia | he got all the old scifi questions | 09:31 |
Burgundavia | plus we got all the novell questions | 09:31 |
Burgundavia | including the "what does Suse stand for" | 09:31 |
imbrandon | heh | 09:31 |
imbrandon | lol | 09:31 |
Burgundavia | and the "what is not a Novell linux product?" | 09:31 |
imbrandon | what DOES it stand for ? | 09:32 |
Arbiter | Hobbsee: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2801 | 09:32 |
sladen | Burgundavia: did they manage to get "what does 'Ubuntu' mean"? | 09:32 |
Burgundavia | imbrandon: software and something | 09:32 |
Burgundavia | sladen: hmm, don't remember if they asked such a question | 09:32 |
sladen | Burgundavia: well, you did have mdy on the team, I think he'd know a bit about Suse ;-) | 09:32 |
Burgundavia | did have a mark one | 09:32 |
Burgundavia | just a tad | 09:32 |
sladen | Burgundavia: what was the Mark one? | 09:32 |
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Burgundavia | mdy also got the os/2 questions, have worked as product manager on it | 09:32 |
Burgundavia | who is this man | 09:32 |
Hobbsee | Arbiter: looks like bddebian's pbuilder is borked - it should be building with fakeroot | 09:32 |
Burgundavia | oh, and then there is a the Ipod dance | 09:33 |
Burgundavia | I got the steve jobs question right "who is this man: picture" | 09:33 |
nixternal | [02:30] <sladen> Burgundavia: they didn't think anyone else would do it for free? | 09:33 |
imbrandon | heh | 09:33 |
nixternal | my family thinks im nuts for this ;) | 09:33 |
Burgundavia | then for the bonus we got "steve jobs turtlenecks" and had to dance the ipod dance | 09:33 |
Burgundavia | you know, the black silohuette one | 09:33 |
imbrandon | hahahah | 09:33 |
sladen | Burgundavia: oh, not the Steve Balmer one? | 09:33 |
Burgundavia | no, no ballmer questions | 09:34 |
imbrandon | no one thew chairs ? heh | 09:34 |
Burgundavia | but they did have the gates quote about os/2 "this is the most significant os in our time" | 09:34 |
imbrandon | threw* | 09:34 |
Burgundavia | mdy got that one | 09:34 |
Burgundavia | I missed the Serenity/Firefly question "what is the name of this ship" | 09:34 |
Burgundavia | which apparently nobody is letting me live down | 09:34 |
imbrandon | ouch | 09:34 |
sladen | "firefly" ? | 09:35 |
imbrandon | tv show | 09:35 |
Burgundavia | I said Firefly .... :( | 09:35 |
Burgundavia | us sci fi series, very good | 09:35 |
Arbiter | Hobbsee: uhm? so it's a bddebian's problem? | 09:35 |
Hobbsee | Arbiter: i'd say so | 09:35 |
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Burgundavia | sladen: at least you didn't answer the question wrong out in front of 100+ people and a video camera | 09:35 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: your machine stil building? | 09:36 |
Burgundavia | there is a video somewhere | 09:36 |
Arbiter | i did 3 pbuilder builds (i use fakeroot) and it works | 09:36 |
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imbrandon | Hobbsee: yup kde4 is takin forever, probably will be building all night | 09:36 |
Burgundavia | anyway, I need to crash, I am tired and it is 1am | 09:36 |
Burgundavia | sorry for taking over the channel | 09:36 |
imbrandon | Burgundavia: hehe cool later | 09:36 |
Arbiter | i have a kdocker .deb produced by pbuilder | 09:36 |
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sladen | Burgundavia: fantastic. Sleep well! Happy Ubuconning | 09:36 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: cool, okay | 09:37 |
Hobbsee | Burgundavia: of course you should | 09:37 |
Arbiter | maybe i need to update the pbuilder... wait a sec... | 09:37 |
imbrandon | i can test build on my lappy ( as long as it compiles on ppc though ) | 09:37 |
imbrandon | what ya need tested ? | 09:38 |
Arbiter | mhmhmh | 09:38 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: nothing. test build | 09:38 |
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Arbiter | build fails with an updated pbuilder env... | 09:39 |
Arbiter | ARGH! | 09:39 |
Arbiter | :P | 09:39 |
Arbiter | (my last build was 24 days ago) | 09:39 |
Hobbsee | Arbiter: heh. i hate that. | 09:40 |
Hobbsee | Arbiter: i believe that's pitti's, or someone else's bug | 09:40 |
Arbiter | maybe a buildd bug? | 09:40 |
Arbiter | (i don't know) | 09:41 |
Fujitsu | Pitti's or somebody else's? How descriptive :P | 09:41 |
Arbiter | heh :) | 09:41 |
Hobbsee | Fujitsu: bddebian was talking about that yesterday | 09:41 |
Hobbsee | i dont remember who did that bug | 09:41 |
ajmitch | Arbiter: it's a broken makefile in your package, not a broken pbuilder or buildd | 09:41 |
Hobbsee | ah | 09:42 |
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Arbiter | ajmitch: broken makefile? my 23-days-old edgy pbuilder environment compiled the package with no problems | 09:43 |
Arbiter | i have a .deb file created by pbuilder after a successful build | 09:44 |
Arbiter | now i update my pbuilder env and the package doesn't build | 09:45 |
imbrandon | Arbiter: what error do you get on build, i just updated my pbuilder to make sure it iwas upto date and everything compiled fine | 09:46 |
imbrandon | dpkg-deb: building package `kdocker' in `../kdocker_1.3-0ubuntu1_i386.deb'. | 09:47 |
Arbiter | same error as bddebian... | 09:47 |
imbrandon | dosent know what bddebian got | 09:47 |
Arbiter | mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/share/applications': Permission denied | 09:48 |
Arbiter | make[1] : *** [install_desktop] Error 1 | 09:48 |
Arbiter | blah blah blah | 09:48 |
Fujitsu | Sounds like it's not using fakeroot. | 09:48 |
Arbiter | (blah blah blah => more error messages) | 09:48 |
imbrandon | sounds like no fakeroot in the pbuilder env | 09:48 |
Arbiter | I: using fakeroot in build. | 09:48 |
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Fujitsu | fakeroot's broken? | 09:48 |
Arbiter | don't know... :( | 09:49 |
ajmitch | the build log for a successful build shows it sticking the file in the wrong place anyway | 09:49 |
ajmitch | so no matter whether the build succeeds or fails, it needs fixed | 09:49 |
Arbiter | aw.. | 09:49 |
crimsun | I'm pretty sure I'm not supposed to be able to see the checkboxes and accept and reject submissions on the edgy queue. | 09:50 |
imbrandon | crimsun: heh | 09:50 |
imbrandon | might poke them in #lp | 09:50 |
imbrandon | ;) | 09:50 |
Arbiter | found | 09:50 |
Arbiter | desktop.path = /usr/share/applications | 09:50 |
Arbiter | in kdocker.pro | 09:51 |
Arbiter | pfff :D | 09:51 |
Arbiter | patch patch patch! :D | 09:51 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: hah. i suspect not | 09:51 |
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Arbiter | kdocker fixed | 10:11 |
Hobbsee | Arbiter: yay :) | 10:12 |
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Goshawk | hi | 10:13 |
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Arbiter | ;) | 10:13 |
Arbiter | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2907 <- fixed kdocker | 10:16 |
Arbiter | it should work now :) | 10:16 |
Goshawk | why the file /etc/lsb-base-logging.sh is part of lsb-base in ubuntu ( http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin//search_contents.pl?version=edgy&arch=amd64&case=insensitive&word=lsb-base&searchmode=filelist ) while in debian it's part of the package usplash? ( http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=usplash&version=unstable&arch=amd64 ) | 10:17 |
Goshawk | i'm saying that because that /etc/lsb-base-logging.sh contains functions just to help usplash | 10:18 |
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imbrandon | brandon@voyager:~/sunuo$ mcs --version | 10:19 |
imbrandon | Mono C# compiler version 1.1.16.1 | 10:19 |
imbrandon | gah | 10:19 |
Arbiter | ? | 10:20 |
imbrandon | dident mean to paste in here | 10:20 |
Arbiter | : | 10:20 |
Arbiter | ehm | 10:20 |
Arbiter | :) | 10:20 |
ajmitch | crimsun: don't worry, you can see it but it's not plugged in | 10:21 |
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Toadstool | 'morning | 10:42 |
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Tonio_ | hello* | 11:20 |
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Prezu | I've uploaded Kadu package to REVU yesterday, but it hasn't appeared since now. No info on motu-reviewers@tauware.de neither. Is it normal? This is my first contribution to Ubuntu. | 11:40 |
ajmitch | depends - are you in the launchpad group, and did you ask a revu admin about syncing the keyring? | 11:42 |
Prezu | ajmitch: I'm have an account on launchpad. but I haven't ask a revu admin about a key syncing. | 11:44 |
Prezu | ajmitch: Are You speaking about this? https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-universe-contributors/+join because I'm already a member of this group. | 11:47 |
ajmitch | yes | 11:48 |
ajmitch | and then you needed to ask a revu admin | 11:48 |
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Prezu | ajmitch: I can see, that You're a REVU admin. Could You please sync the keyring? :) | 11:51 |
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Prezu | ajmitch: Thanks a lot. :) Do I have to upload with dput again? | 11:54 |
ajmitch | no | 11:54 |
Prezu | ajmitch: Ok. Thanks agani. Bye then. :) | 11:54 |
ajmitch | if you look on revu now you'll see the package listed | 11:54 |
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imbrandon | ajmitch: whats mugshot part of ? | 11:59 |
imbrandon | sudo apt-cache search mugshot | 11:59 |
imbrandon | shows nothing | 11:59 |
ajmitch | mugshot.org | 11:59 |
imbrandon | oh heh | 11:59 |
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Hobbsee | crimsun: any idea why i would get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21066? | 12:19 |
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Hobbsee | argh | 12:56 |
Hobbsee | how do i get around this? | 12:56 |
Hobbsee | Upload package to host ubuntu | 12:56 |
Hobbsee | Checking Signature on .changes | 12:56 |
Hobbsee | gpg: Signature made Sat 19 Aug 2006 05:54:54 AM CDT using DSA key ID 7D2BCE85 | 12:56 |
Hobbsee | gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found | 12:56 |
Hobbsee | Error verifying signature on /home/hobbsee/merges/gnunet_0.7.0e-2ubuntu1_source.changes. | 12:56 |
Hobbsee | oh | 12:56 |
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Hobbsee | found it :) | 12:56 |
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AnAnt | may someone clear a bad upload that I made | 12:57 |
AnAnt | kchmviewer | 12:57 |
Hobbsee | AnAnt: ajmitch: or siretart can | 12:57 |
Hobbsee | hi \sh | 12:57 |
\sh | good morning motus :) hey Hobbsee :) | 12:58 |
DarkMageZ | how would i add a repository to my pbuilder setup? | 12:59 |
Hobbsee | DarkMageZ: add it to /etc/pbuilder/apt.config/sources.list and run sudo pbuilder update --override-config | 12:59 |
DarkMageZ | ty Hobbsee :) | 12:59 |
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\sh | ajmitch: awake? | 01:00 |
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\sh | btw..I'm close to uploading latest wine packages... | 01:00 |
DarkMageZ | and requires the newer libgstreamer-dev which i compiled to build one of the other packages | 01:00 |
\sh | need to change my laptops in a few :) | 01:01 |
DarkMageZ | i have my own local repo :) | 01:01 |
DarkMageZ | hmm, very odd.. apt.config/sources.list doesn't exist | 01:02 |
AnAnt | what is apt.config ? | 01:03 |
AnAnt | should autoconf be run before or after automake ? | 01:04 |
Hobbsee | DarkMageZ: ah | 01:04 |
ajmitch | \sh: yes? | 01:04 |
Hobbsee | right, so you didtn follow the pbuilder guide... | 01:04 |
\sh | ajmitch: are you still in NZ? :) | 01:05 |
ajmitch | \sh: yes | 01:05 |
DarkMageZ | i followed http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/gs-pbuilder.html | 01:05 |
\sh | ajmitch: I'll query you :) | 01:05 |
AnAnt | ajmitch: could you delete a bad upload that I made , kchmviewer | 01:05 |
DarkMageZ | might not have been correctly, but i followed it :) | 01:05 |
ajmitch | AnAnt: done | 01:05 |
AnAnt | thanks | 01:06 |
AnAnt | isn't the recover in REVU going to be fixed ? | 01:11 |
\sh | I wonder where the laptoptestingteam page disappeared and why | 01:13 |
Fujitsu | Did it? | 01:14 |
Fujitsu | It was there an hour ago... | 01:14 |
Fujitsu | It's there... | 01:15 |
\sh | yesterday evening it was gone | 01:16 |
Fujitsu | LaptopTestingTeam on the wiki, you mean? | 01:18 |
\sh | yes... | 01:18 |
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siretart | Hobbsee: huh? | 01:51 |
Hobbsee | siretart: dont worry, it got fixed :) | 01:51 |
siretart | Hobbsee: okay | 01:52 |
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\sh | cu later | 02:01 |
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phanatic | afternoon | 02:45 |
Fujitsu | Hi phanatic. | 02:47 |
phanatic | hi Fujitsu | 02:47 |
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zul | imbrandon: pong | 03:51 |
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imbrandon | hey , umm that was a few hours ago , let me rember what i needed ;) | 03:51 |
imbrandon | heh ;) | 03:51 |
zul | a big hug | 03:51 |
imbrandon | ;P | 03:51 |
zul | heh | 03:51 |
zul | i just woke up | 03:52 |
jpatrick | s/hug/bug | 03:52 |
imbrandon | i should realy use knotes lol | 03:52 |
zul | or you could just remember | 03:52 |
imbrandon | i've been at the keyboard ~12 hours , heh | 03:52 |
zul | lemme guess something xen related | 03:52 |
imbrandon | yea it was, just dont rember what heh | 03:52 |
zul | something amd64 related | 03:53 |
imbrandon | nope | 03:53 |
imbrandon | havent formated the 64 yet | 03:53 |
imbrandon | i will to that sunday probably | 03:53 |
zul | okie dokie | 03:53 |
imbrandon | hrm what was that wiki link again with the basic setup ? i might try to conver this box today | 03:54 |
imbrandon | convert* | 03:54 |
imbrandon | got nothing better to do while i wait for kde to compile | 03:54 |
imbrandon | lol | 03:54 |
imbrandon | oh i rember , how hard is it to setup a DIFFRENT distro ( non debian based ) on a DomU domain | 03:55 |
imbrandon | if possible at all | 03:55 |
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zul | which distro? | 03:56 |
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imbrandon | gentoo / suse | 03:57 |
imbrandon | suse first probably | 03:57 |
zul | gentoo is not that hard you can use xen-tools in universe i think there is a tool out there fro suse | 03:57 |
imbrandon | cool, ok yea i think i'm gonna start converting this box to xen based now and try ti out, worse case i bork it and format ;) | 03:58 |
imbrandon | no loss ;) | 03:58 |
zul | besides im always around for help | 03:59 |
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imbrandon | true ;) | 03:59 |
zul | well most of the time | 03:59 |
imbrandon | Sysinfo for 'voyager': Linux 2.6.17-6-686 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.93GHz at 2933 MHz (5874 bogomips), HD: 42/184GB, RAM: 990/1003MB, 124 proc's, 16.38h up | 03:59 |
zul | ...before i go see snakes on a plane | 03:59 |
imbrandon | heh | 03:59 |
imbrandon | sudo apt-get install xen-* LOL | 04:00 |
zul | yeah i should do a meta-package | 04:00 |
zul | im playing with 2.6.18-rc4 this weekend though | 04:01 |
imbrandon | gah there are 15 wiki pages with xen in the name, what one is it | 04:01 |
zul | XenonEdgy | 04:01 |
imbrandon | if you just want to make a meta of the packages needed from on the wiki i can help with that | 04:01 |
imbrandon | would give you time to mess with the "meat" ;) | 04:02 |
zul | ok that would be good | 04:02 |
imbrandon | before i start are the version numbers listed on the wiki upto date ? or should i just grab the latest version in the repo ? | 04:03 |
zul | latest version | 04:03 |
imbrandon | IE xen-hypervisor-3.0-i386 | 04:03 |
imbrandon | ok | 04:03 |
imbrandon | pae is for amd64 chips running in 32bit mode right ? | 04:04 |
zul | i believe so | 04:04 |
imbrandon | yea | 04:05 |
zul | grrr...i hate kernel makefiles sometimes | 04:05 |
imbrandon | heh | 04:05 |
zul | if you dont remember to change it, if you do a fakeroot debian/rules clean it removes the debian/directory | 04:06 |
imbrandon | ugh -4 -5 -6 all are in the repo , dont those get purged ? | 04:06 |
zul | yeh | 04:06 |
zul | 8 is latest | 04:06 |
imbrandon | xen-image-xen0-2.6.16-6-686 shows as the latest to me | 04:07 |
zul | grrr... | 04:07 |
imbrandon | did the other not ftbs | 04:07 |
zul | yeah.. | 04:07 |
zul | amd64 problems | 04:07 |
zul | ill have a fix uploaded today | 04:07 |
imbrandon | hehe np | 04:08 |
imbrandon | i can still get it working with this and upgrade later | 04:08 |
zul | true.. | 04:08 |
zul | lemme see if i have -8 lying around ill put it somewhere for you | 04:09 |
zul | x86 correct? | 04:09 |
imbrandon | yup | 04:09 |
zul | gimme a sec. | 04:09 |
imbrandon | on the box i'm doing this on here are the specs | 04:09 |
imbrandon | [08:59] <imbrandon> Sysinfo for 'voyager': Linux 2.6.17-6-686 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.93GHz at 2933 MHz (5874 bogomips), HD: 42/184GB, RAM: 990/1003MB, 124 proc's, 16.38h up | 04:09 |
zul | .ok | 04:09 |
zul | gr i dont ill upload one for you | 04:10 |
zul | er...i mean ill upload the fix later today | 04:10 |
imbrandon | np ;) | 04:10 |
imbrandon | i'm in no rush ;) | 04:10 |
zul | good ;) | 04:11 |
imbrandon | mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.16-6-686 2.6.16-6-686 | 04:11 |
imbrandon | err | 04:11 |
zul | hmm? | 04:12 |
imbrandon | pasted wrong window | 04:12 |
imbrandon | hrm can you explain #7 on the wiki a bit, i dont quite get whats its wanting me to edit ( not the file , what IN the file ) | 04:17 |
imbrandon | everything else so far went smooth | 04:18 |
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imbrandon | hrm can you explain #7 on the wiki a bit, i dont quite get whats its wanting me to edit ( not the file , what IN the file ) | 04:18 |
imbrandon | zul: ^^ | 04:18 |
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bddebian | Heya gang | 04:20 |
imbrandon | heya | 04:20 |
bddebian | Hi imbrandon | 04:21 |
Nafallo | hi bddebian | 04:21 |
bddebian | Hi Nafallo | 04:21 |
Nafallo | so how's it going? | 04:22 |
bddebian | Just bueno. You? | 04:22 |
Nafallo | not much. trying to figure out which pizza I want :-P. woke up with an awful headache, otherwise I would still be on work now. | 04:23 |
bddebian | Hangover? :-) | 04:24 |
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Nafallo | nope | 04:30 |
Nafallo | sickness or something :-( | 04:30 |
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Nafallo | have been home all week, after having to leave early last tuesday. | 04:31 |
bddebian | Bummer :-( | 04:31 |
Nafallo | indeed | 04:34 |
Nafallo | but I got paid yesterday so :-P | 04:34 |
bddebian | :-) | 04:34 |
Nafallo | have bought computerparts for more than a 1/3 of what I got the same day I got them ;-) | 04:34 |
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Nafallo | well, atleast my server will have new big chassi, more harddrives, more fans and 2 100Mbit 3Com and 1 1Gbit 3Com NICs ;-) | 04:35 |
Nafallo | http://www.nafallo.info/~nafallo/stacker.pdf <-- the chassi FWIW ;-) | 04:37 |
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bddebian | Man that is taking forever to download.. | 04:41 |
Nafallo | hmm, maybe http should have more prio than the darknet then :-P | 04:42 |
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bddebian | Gah, I wish I understood all this libfoo vs libfoo0 vs libfoo0c2a crap | 04:45 |
Nafallo | there. that should get better performance :-) | 04:47 |
Nafallo | hmm | 04:47 |
Nafallo | but my IPv6 tunnel has bad prio now... | 04:47 |
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imbrandon | zul ping | 04:50 |
imbrandon | heh | 04:50 |
imbrandon | i got good news and bad news ;) | 04:50 |
Nafallo | bddebian: hope you get better speeds now :_) | 04:50 |
Nafallo | :-) | 04:50 |
Toadstool | re | 04:53 |
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bddebian | Heya Toadstool | 04:55 |
bddebian | Nafallo: Ah yes much better :-) | 04:56 |
imbrandon | good news it all worked the first try ( i'm booted into a xen DomU now, bad news is i had to boot into single user mode and run init 5 for x to come up for it to work ;( | 04:56 |
imbrandon | Zul ^^ | 04:56 |
imbrandon | err he's gone | 04:56 |
imbrandon | heh | 04:56 |
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Nafallo | bddebian: I had my looks on that chassi for a year or so now ;-) | 04:57 |
bddebian | heh | 04:57 |
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imbrandon | hehe | 04:58 |
imbrandon | nce | 04:58 |
imbrandon | nice | 04:58 |
Nafallo | bddebian: ;-) | 04:59 |
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bddebian | OK apparently trying openscenegraph was a mistake :-) | 06:04 |
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Gloubiboulga | bddebian, I tried to build the debian deb a few months ago for a friend, it was a really bad idea ;) | 06:15 |
bddebian | Gloubiboulga: Aye, my machine is choking on it :-) | 06:16 |
Gloubiboulga | hehe, I wonder what kind of machine can build this thing | 06:17 |
Gloubiboulga | mine almost died and never gave me a .deb | 06:18 |
Arbiter | Gloubiboulga!!! :D | 06:19 |
Gloubiboulga | hi Arbiter | 06:21 |
Arbiter | bddebian: the kdocker build bug should be fixed | 06:23 |
Arbiter | the updated version of the package is here: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2907 | 06:24 |
bddebian | Arbiter: OK, I'll check it out if my machine ever recovers from openscenegraph :) | 06:25 |
Arbiter | hehehe | 06:25 |
Arbiter | no problem | 06:25 |
bddebian | Oh segfault, nice | 06:25 |
Arbiter | heh :D | 06:25 |
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bluefoxicy | how long's it normally take between upload and hitting the repos? | 06:46 |
bddebian | Depends on several things | 06:47 |
bluefoxicy | bddebian: days, weeks? | 06:49 |
bddebian | NO, usually a day or so | 06:49 |
bluefoxicy | ah, I'll give it a couple more then | 06:50 |
bddebian | bluefoxicy: What package? | 06:50 |
bluefoxicy | I got a mail thursday that said pax-utils was uploaded, I'm just waiting to see it hit the repo so I can swap out my "local or obsolete" with universe. | 06:51 |
bluefoxicy | it's low priority so all the important stuff is probably pushing it back :P | 06:51 |
bddebian | bluefoxicy: 1:5-15? | 06:52 |
bluefoxicy | what does THAT mean | 06:53 |
bddebian | That's the version that is in Edgy | 06:53 |
bddebian | Err 1.5-15 | 06:54 |
bluefoxicy | synaptic is telling me the available versions are 0.1.13-0ubuntu1 (now) | 06:54 |
bluefoxicy | you're looking at pax, the archiver | 06:54 |
azeem | then it's probably in NEW and needs manual attention | 06:55 |
bluefoxicy | azeem: oh, I thought it was stuck in a queue that goes up automatically | 06:55 |
azeem | goes up | 06:55 |
azeem | ? | 06:55 |
bluefoxicy | "I've uploaded your pax-utils package.\nForwarding you the NEW mail from soyuz." | 06:55 |
bddebian | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=pax | 06:56 |
bluefoxicy | ah, cool, I can view the status online :) | 06:56 |
bluefoxicy | so it hasn't hit the buildd yet | 06:56 |
bluefoxicy | bddebian: do you have any friggin' idea how to figure out the latest binutils upstream release | 06:57 |
azeem | figure out what? | 06:57 |
bluefoxicy | I see numbers like 2.17.50.0.2 | 06:58 |
bluefoxicy | and I can only find "binutils 2.17" on sources.redhat | 06:58 |
azeem | the former are H J Lu's releases I think | 06:58 |
azeem | while the latter are the official GNU tarballs | 06:58 |
bluefoxicy | http://sources.redhat.com/binutils/ Re | 06:58 |
azeem | (I'd guess) | 06:58 |
bluefoxicy | http://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2006-06/msg00095.html "Attachment: binutils-2.17.50.0.2-hash-style.patch" Well, the RedHat developers seem to be aware of the latter | 06:59 |
bluefoxicy | I'm trying to figure out if upstream has released binutils w/ --hash-style yet (it went into ld in CVS 2 merges ago) or if I'll have to bribe doko or whoever to patch it into our binutils/glibc after edgy | 07:00 |
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AnAnt | bddebian: I fixed the kchmviewer problem (that it wasn't been put in /usr/bin) | 07:38 |
AnAnt | anyone here ? | 07:43 |
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azeem | AnAnt: 101 people | 07:44 |
AnAnt | azeem: ok, isn't the recover page on REVU going to be fixed ? | 07:44 |
azeem | no idea | 07:44 |
AnAnt | k | 07:44 |
azeem | AnAnt: just ask your questions, don't wait for random people without clue to react first :) | 07:44 |
azeem | it's the weekend, this chan is pretty low traffic | 07:45 |
AnAnt | well, that was the question | 07:45 |
AnAnt | oh ok | 07:45 |
AnAnt | well, that was it | 07:46 |
AnAnt | gotta go | 07:46 |
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bddebian | Shoot, who else asked me about a review last night.. :-( | 07:51 |
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Gloubiboulga | bddebian, me! | 08:00 |
Gloubiboulga | bddebian, you haven't advocated gnome-translate ;) | 08:01 |
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bddebian | Gloubiboulga: I don't think it was you but I'll take a look at it | 08:07 |
Gloubiboulga | bddebian, no it wasn't me :) | 08:07 |
bddebian | Gloubiboulga: OK advocated but someone else has to look at it :) | 08:12 |
Gloubiboulga | bddebian, sure | 08:12 |
Gloubiboulga | thanks bddebian :) | 08:13 |
bddebian | Sure | 08:13 |
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bddebian | Hmm, it would be nice if I could search REVU for all packages I have commented on.. | 08:24 |
azeem | or those you have *not yet* commented on :) | 08:25 |
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bddebian | Well there's plenty of those.. :-) | 08:30 |
bddebian | I'm just one man.. And not the greatest reviewer at that.. :-( | 08:30 |
bddebian | Uhm, how can libbuffy have /usr/include/python-2.3 in a Makefile but not have a build-dep on any python stuff? | 08:34 |
crimsun | (does it actually require python2.3-dev to compile, though?) | 08:38 |
bddebian | crimsun: No but the changelog isn't exactly helpful either. In 0.2.x it says added build-dep for python, etc but never mentions dropping it later | 08:40 |
bddebian | I guess I'll just sync it, it just seems strange | 08:40 |
bddebian | OH, crimsun. Wanna help me understand osgcal | 08:41 |
bddebian | Oh, they seem to have removed the python-libbuffy binary | 08:42 |
bddebian | Err python-buffy even | 08:42 |
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crimsun | sorry bddebian, you don't get priority response time (on the phone) since you misrouted my pony. | 08:48 |
crimsun | bddebian: what's the issue w/ osgcal? | 08:49 |
bddebian | crimsun: The whole 0c2a transition thing | 08:53 |
crimsun | ah, to 0.1.39-1? | 08:56 |
bddebian | Aye | 08:57 |
crimsun | it'll have to be a merge regardless since we have libosgcal0c2a | 08:57 |
bddebian | Aye, I just didn't want to screw it up | 08:57 |
crimsun | I doubt you will; you've done enough of them to know the proper C/R. :) | 08:59 |
bddebian | Actually I really haven't for transitional packages | 08:59 |
ajmitch | you should have | 09:00 |
bddebian | The question is, should libosgcal stay libosgcal0 from Debian? | 09:04 |
crimsun | it doesn't look like it ever transitioned on the Debian side | 09:05 |
bddebian | Aye | 09:06 |
ajmitch | does it export a C or C++ interface? | 09:06 |
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crimsun | yep, and it was part of the libstdc++ allocator change [https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2005-November/000016.html] | 09:11 |
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crimsun | bddebian: it would be worthwhile merging openscenegraph first | 09:12 |
bddebian | openscenegraph segfaults on build | 09:16 |
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bddebian | Not to mention it's a pig :-( | 09:17 |
crimsun | ah, that should make for an exciting weekend evening. | 09:19 |
bddebian | For whom? :-) | 09:20 |
crimsun | I'll look at it. | 09:20 |
bddebian | crimsun: openscenegraph or osgcal? | 09:21 |
crimsun | the former. | 09:21 |
crimsun | doesn't make much sense to proceed with the latter until the former is merged | 09:22 |
bddebian | Oh, aye | 09:22 |
bddebian | Who is gborzi? | 09:25 |
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bddebian | lfittl: ping? | 09:33 |
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bddebian | Heya Amaranth | 09:46 |
Amaranth | hey | 09:46 |
Amaranth | public wifi at libraries ftw | 09:46 |
lfittl | bddebian: pong | 09:47 |
crimsun | .oO( you identified over a public wifi? ) | 09:47 |
tseng | crimsun: oh no, freenode botnets will take over! | 09:47 |
crimsun | ohnoes! | 09:48 |
bddebian | heh | 09:48 |
bddebian | lfittl: Hey, I just realized someone has a package for glest on REVU, did you know that? | 09:48 |
lfittl | bddebian: oh, no, but I guess this package still has the licensing problems | 09:49 |
bddebian | Aye | 09:49 |
bddebian | Well the data package anyway | 09:49 |
lfittl | bddebian: I looked at the forum thread about scourge data licensing, but this thread is a little old and there doesn't seem to be much interest in it anymore :/ | 09:51 |
lfittl | something different, whats the best solution to the following problem: one of my to-be-packaged games, freeorion, links directly to some graphviz libs that are located in /usr/lib/graphviz, which means it won't find them on startup without modifying LD_LIBRARY_PATH | 09:55 |
lfittl | my approach would be to write a simple wrapper that sets the correct LD_LIBRARY_PATH, anybody have a better idea? | 09:56 |
bddebian | lfittl: At runtime? | 09:58 |
bddebian | lfittl: Do you happen to have a URL for the scourge forum discussion? | 09:59 |
lfittl | bddebian: what at runtime? | 09:59 |
bddebian | LD_LIBRARY_PATH? | 09:59 |
lfittl | bddebian: will search it again, easy to find | 09:59 |
crimsun | where are they in fact installed, /usr/lib/ ? | 10:00 |
lfittl | bddebian: http://scourge.sourceforge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=46 | 10:00 |
crimsun | it smells of rpath | 10:00 |
lfittl | the needed graphviz libs are in /usr/lib/graphviz, and freeorion searchs for them in /usr/lib | 10:00 |
lfittl | rpath? | 10:00 |
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lfittl | crimsun: ah, rpath, that could work (didn't know that something like this existed) :) | 10:02 |
bddebian | lfittl: Is the scourge data not even a candidate for multiverse? | 10:03 |
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lfittl | bddebian: don't know, problem is we don't have a defined license, and don't even know all the copyright holders | 10:04 |
bddebian | Ah, OK | 10:04 |
lfittl | as upstream has taken some models from various "free models" websites, and the creator of some old music files didn't specify a license and is now gone (if I remember correctly) | 10:05 |
lfittl | although we could propably work around the music file problem be simply not including them, missing music is not the worst thing, missing models are more problematic | 10:06 |
bddebian | Well I posted a question, though it is probably too vague :-) | 10:13 |
lfittl | bddebian: lets hope there is at least one artist interested, that would be enough to get the license problem into their heads again :) | 10:15 |
bddebian | Aye | 10:16 |
Amaranth | crimsun: it's a junk password | 10:20 |
Amaranth | crimsun: i only use it on freenode | 10:20 |
crimsun | Amaranth: (was being facetious ;) | 10:20 |
Amaranth | and, uh, i live in sioux city, iowa. wifi is magic to like 99.9999% of the population | 10:20 |
Amaranth | heh | 10:20 |
Amaranth | There are probably only about a dozen guys in this town who would even know how to do something like that and I know all of them. :) | 10:22 |
Amaranth | damn, dist-upgrade is slow | 10:22 |
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Toadstool | bddebian: hi (about 5h30 later :) | 10:36 |
Toadstool | and hi everybody | 10:37 |
crimsun | 'lo | 10:37 |
Toadstool | hey crimsun | 10:37 |
bddebian | Heh, hi Toadstool | 10:37 |
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Toadstool | I hate that, I have to run everywhere to prepare my trip and can't stay more than 5 minutes in front of my computer :p | 10:38 |
crimsun | bddebian: bug 56935 | 10:45 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 56935 in openscenegraph "[Edgy MoM] Please sync openscenegraph 1.0.0-9 from Debian Sid" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56935 | 10:45 |
bddebian | OH, hehe | 10:46 |
bddebian | Might be interesting though | 10:46 |
crimsun | bddebian: took a while to build, but it built successfully on i386 and amd64. | 10:46 |
bddebian | Oh, you did that? | 10:46 |
crimsun | yes, I just filed it a minute ago | 10:46 |
bddebian | Rockin' | 10:46 |
Toadstool | you guys have to be insane to try to build that piece of software :p | 10:46 |
crimsun | took a solid hour of build time | 10:47 |
Toadstool | crimsun: about mldonkey in dapper, I uploaded an updated package a few weeks ago to dapper-updates but the package "disappeared"... I wonder whether I did something wrong :/ | 10:51 |
crimsun | Toadstool: w/ approval from mdz/kamion? | 10:52 |
Toadstool | huhu nope | 10:52 |
Toadstool | I have to ask mdz/kamion before uploading? | 10:53 |
crimsun | right, infinity/keybuk will blackhole them (approximately) unless you have approval | 10:53 |
crimsun | yes | 10:53 |
Toadstool | ok, understood | 10:53 |
Toadstool | I should have asked before doing anything | 10:53 |
\sh | re | 10:54 |
crimsun | 'lo \sh | 10:54 |
Toadstool | hi \sh | 10:54 |
\sh | how's live? | 10:55 |
crimsun | crazy, and yours? | 10:55 |
\sh | too much work :) | 10:56 |
\sh | just preparing new wine | 10:58 |
crimsun | nice :) | 10:58 |
\sh | argl...it's always a pain to switch between a uk layout and a german layout.... | 11:02 |
bddebian | \sh! | 11:03 |
\sh | bddebian: :) | 11:03 |
\sh | I wonder if bluetooth is still working on this t43 after upgrading to edgy....or is it just disappearing like on the r200? | 11:16 |
ajmitch | hi \sh | 11:16 |
\sh | re ajmitch | 11:17 |
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asimon | Greetings. If upstream only offers the source as a bz2 archive, I unpack, and 'gzip -9' it to get a orig.tar.gz. Is this the right way? | 11:41 |
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crimsun | it's the "least worst" | 11:43 |
crimsun | if you do that and Debian does that, then you'll likely end up with *sum mismatches for the orig.tar.gz, which is, well, a PITA | 11:44 |
asimon | crimsun: So what's the most elegant way to handle it? | 11:45 |
crimsun | asimon: is said package in Debian already? | 11:46 |
\sh | didn't dpkg work with bz2? | 11:46 |
asimon | crimsun: No, not in Debian or Ubuntu so far. | 11:46 |
crimsun | asimon: do you plan to submit it to Debian? (Hopefully you do.) | 11:46 |
asimon | crimsun: The plan was to first upload it to revu | 11:47 |
crimsun | asimon: sure. Well if there's no ITP (see bugs.do/wnpp) for it, then I suppose you'll have to go the route you just described. | 11:49 |
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asimon | crimsun: No ITP so far. | 11:49 |
asimon | \sh: When I run dpkg-sources with a bz2 instead of a gz tarball it generates automatically a tar.gz file but without the 'orig' part and the source won't appear in the dsc file. | 11:53 |
asimon | crimsun: Thank you. | 11:53 |
\sh | asimon: yeah...just tried... | 11:54 |
\sh | crimsun: what would you do to debug a strange grub behaviour...which is only shown on dapper? | 11:55 |
\sh | crimsun: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/56780 | 11:56 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 56780 in grub "grub doesn't work with Compaq SmartArray P600 SAS Controller" [Medium,Unconfirmed] | 11:56 |
zul | \sh: a picture might help | 11:57 |
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\sh | zul: well..."GRUB Hard Disk Error" ;) that's all what is shown during boot up | 11:58 |
zul | ok maybe not.. | 11:58 |
zul | \sh: what are the disks again? | 11:58 |
\sh | zul 4 disks as raid0 configured (hw raid) sata | 11:58 |
zul | /dev/dsk/c or something | 11:58 |
\sh | /dev/cciss/c0d0 | 11:58 |
zul | ah yes.. | 11:59 |
\sh | ubuntu grub has some patches for it...to recognize them...but sles9 grub doesn't have any patches for this...but sles9 version works | 11:59 |
zul | weird.. | 11:59 |
\sh | yepp | 11:59 |
zul | can you put up the source rpm somewhere? | 12:00 |
\sh | zul: on monday when I'm back in the office.. | 12:00 |
zul | ok..remind me on monday then | 12:00 |
\sh | zul: kk | 12:01 |
\sh | and it's just not working on this piece of hw | 12:02 |
\sh | areca 16 channel raid6 sata controller just works. non sata smartarrays are working too. | 12:02 |
zul | just the ccis crap | 12:03 |
zul | you might want to put in some printk to see what is happeneing | 12:04 |
\sh | zul: if I could I would have done it already = | 12:04 |
\sh | grmpf | 12:04 |
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