[12:01] <Dev05> Np
[12:01] <Mez> KenSentMe: seeing as it's not in debian - try contacting the ubuntu maintainer
[12:01] <m4rk> drbashir: is it one of those exploding sony ones?
[12:01] <`m0> so anyone install gnome network manager?
[12:01] <Mez> KenSentMe, I believe that is dholbach
[12:01] <`m0> I don't know http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[12:01] <m4rk> `mo: yes i have
[12:02] <drbashir> No, its a Promedion, just noticed the difference between windows and ubuntu, that ubuntu really likes to suck on my batt power a lot :(
[12:02] <KenSentMe> Mez: thanx
[12:02] <m4rk> `m0: i'm using it as we speak. it's grrrrreatttt!
[12:02] <dalila> i have a printing issue, lexmark z45 was identified by ubuntu latest, however driver recommended is z42,  job stays in queue and also test page wont print,  any way to force the queue to print?
[12:02] <`m0> m4rk: i am having problems with it, how did you add it to the panel?
[12:02] <m4rk> oh yeah
[12:02] <KenSentMe> Mez: where did you find the package maintainer?
[12:02] <drbashir> Im just buse for less than an hour and its already 32% left from full
[12:03] <m4rk> `m0: err let me try to remember
[12:03] <m4rk> `m0: i remember it was there and i accidentally removed it
[12:03] <sergiol> I AM IN TROUBLE
[12:03] <Mez> KenSentMe, I acutally found it in the package - but best place to look is somewhere like here
[12:03] <Mez> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/penguintv/1.02-0ubuntu5
[12:03] <Melectaus--> Can somone helo me. i have my harddrive partitioned on my laptop, and installed ubuntu then windows. when installing windows it changed it from the grub bootloader to the windows one. i tried installing the grib bootloader from the ubuntu disc but cant get it to work. can anyone help me out??
[12:03] <Melectaus--> help*
[12:03] <Warbo> !grub > Melectaus--
[12:03] <drbashir> while I could work in windows for more than 2 1/2
[12:03] <dalila> anyone care to help me
[12:03] <Dev05> Melactaus--, Does GRUB start up at least?
[12:03] <dalila> i have a printing issue, lexmark z45 was identified by ubuntu latest, however driver recommended is z42,  job stays in queue and also test page wont print,  any way to force the queue to print?
[12:04] <`m0> m4rk: I really don't see that panel..
[12:04] <Mez> !tell Melectaus-- about grub
[12:04] <sergiol> i need very much ghostscript
[12:04] <`m0> m4rk: Can you please tell me how you installed it?
[12:04] <Dev05> !GRUB
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about GRUB - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <Dev05> !grub
[12:04] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:04] <`m0> m4rk: I really like this : http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/images/wireless-at-tealuxe.png
[12:04] <Melectaus--> crap
[12:04] <sergiol> but its installation packages are getting each time worse
[12:04] <m4rk> `m0: i'm just trying to remember hang on
[12:05] <drbashir> where can I find "synce-serial-config"?
[12:05] <Melectaus--> is there anywhere i can download grub and burn it to disc to install it?
[12:05] <m4rk> `m0: yes t hat is how mine looks (but with different networks)
[12:05] <sergiol> now i have a message Can't find initialization file gs_init.ps.
[12:05] <`m0> m4rk: obviously:) Could you please guide me how you installed it?
[12:05] <pianoboy3333> I get a very interesting error when running gksudo synaptic: synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:05] <Melectaus--> tried source forge but it only seemed to have different variations of grub
[12:05] <m4rk> you have to set some config file to allow network manager to manage your interfaces
[12:05] <Melectaus--> ?
[12:06] <jean> Hola
[12:06] <Melectaus--> is there anyone that could help me out?
[12:06] <Mez> Melectaus--, check the private message from ubotu
[12:06] <m4rk> `m0: so you add it in the standard add/remove thingy
[12:06] <Melectaus--> ohh my bad thanks
[12:06] <dalila> !lexmark
[12:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lexmark - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:06] <Fernand1> !xgl
[12:06] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:07] <m4rk> `m0: u done that yet m8?
[12:07] <`m0> m4rk: I really don't know how I installed it, I just apt-get gnome-network-manager
[12:07] <`m0> m4rk: I really don't know if that is the correct way
[12:07] <drbashir> where can I find "synce-serial-config"? pretty please?
[12:07] <dalila> does anyone know if lexmark z45 willl work with ubuntu 6.0.6
[12:08] <drbashir> my .synce dir is empty
[12:08] <bigfuzzyjesus> dalila, lexmark isnt notoriously good with ubuntu
[12:08] <m4rk> `m0: yep that's excellent
[12:08] <m4rk> so now you've tried to run it?
[12:08] <`m0> m4rk: is that how you did it?
[12:08] <`m0> m4rk: yes, cause I don't see it as it was in the picture
[12:09] <dalila> bigfuzzyjesus: no hope at all
[12:09] <k0shi> Can anyone help me with installing drivers for Senao NL-2511CD PLUS EXT2 200mw PCMCIA WiFi 802.1 card?
[12:10] <m4rk> `m0: you need to comment out everything in /etc/network/interfaces i think
[12:10] <poison> what is the difference between smbfs and cifs?
[12:10] <bigfuzzyjesus> dalila, i never said there was no hope
[12:10] <k0shi> Xubuntu is seeing it as a HermesI when in fact it is a Prism2
[12:10] <m4rk> `m0: to allow network manager to manage your interfaces
[12:10] <m4rk> i think that's how i did it
[12:10] <`m0> m4rk: What should I comment out?
[12:10] <bigfuzzyjesus> dalila, its just not going to be easy.... why dont you search the forums
[12:10] <dalila> i did search did not find anything
[12:11] <m4rk> `m0: everything except the loopback iface lo inet loopback
[12:11] <m4rk> and auto lo
[12:11] <k0shi> m4ark: Can you help me with some WiFi troubles?
[12:11] <k0shi> m4rk*
[12:11] <sergiol> people in #ghostscript is recommending me to ask my questions here
[12:11] <m4rk> k0shi: I am not an expert dude
[12:11] <sergiol> I AM IN TROUBLE
[12:12] <sergiol> i need very much ghostscript
[12:12] <m4rk> k0shi: I only installed this myself like 2 weeks ago and all i've used it for is surfing the net and chatting
[12:12] <k0shi> oh
[12:12] <sergiol> but its installation packages are getting each time worse
[12:12] <m4rk> k0shi: i can try
[12:12] <sergiol> now i have a message Can't find initialization file gs_init.ps.
[12:12] <nonex> PPl wtf?? problem synaptic
[12:12] <nonex> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:12] <TheGateKeeper> drbashir: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=136257
[12:12] <k0shi> m4rk: You dont know about installing drivers for a PCMCIA card do you?
[12:12] <m4rk> k0shi: sorry mate i've never done it on ubuntu.
[12:13] <k0shi> thanks anyways
[12:13] <[sharma] > i have a strange problem : if i start the pc the network is disabled. then i have to click on activate in the network manager (eth0) , which results in an error message (could not activate) but then i can ping hosts in my own subnet. then i have to manually run "sudo route add default gw ip.of.gateway" to get wan access. do u have a suggestion so i can start the pc without configuring the network each time ?
[12:13] <m4rk> k0shi: try googling pcmcia wifi ubuntu howto or summink
[12:13] <k0shi> ok
[12:13] <drbashir> TheGateKeeper, Thx, and I saw in synaptic that I had to install synce-serial.... doh ^^
[12:13] <m0> m4rk: http://pastebin.ca/138037  what should I comment out here?
[12:14] <TheGateKeeper> drbashir: you have heard of google :-)  ---> synce-serial-config install ubuntu
[12:14] <bigfuzzyjesus> dalila, i dont know what to tell you, did you check the wiki?
[12:14] <m4rk> m0: everything but the first two lines
[12:14] <m4rk> m0: I think...
[12:14] <m4rk> so comment out lines 4->
[12:15] <m4rk> with # symbols
[12:15] <`m0> m4rk: including  auto eht0
[12:15] <`m0> ?
[12:15] <m4rk> you might have to re-start network manager or something im not sure
[12:15] <m4rk> `m0: yeah i think so
[12:15] <n3rdism> im having trouble mounting my secondary harddrive, says i have to mount it as root. i made adjusted my fstab and still isnt working, any ideas?
[12:15] <Jeruvy> ifdown/ifup, no restarting required
[12:16] <drbashir> TheGateKeeper, ehm, yeah, sorry, im usually good whith google, just my head isn't 100% right now :|
[12:16] <`m0> m4rk: I am done
[12:16] <m4rk> m0: this is how mine looks http://pastebin.ca/138040
[12:16] <redguy> n3rdism, did you add the 'user' option
[12:16] <xan_> Hi
[12:16] <`m0> m4rk: What should I do now
[12:16] <n3rdism> redguy: i just did defaults
[12:16] <redguy> n3rdism, or 'users'.. not sure
[12:16] <xan_> Can you help me with permisions with intel hda sound
[12:16] <drbashir> and im stressed a bit couse ubuntu like to drain power from my battery very fast
[12:16] <lamego> n3rdism, you need the user option to allow it to be mounted with a regular user
[12:16] <`m0> m4rk: yes :) it is similar
[12:16] <xan_> What are the dev I have to touch?
[12:17] <poison> does anyone know that main difference between CIFS and SMBFS? I can mount and read a windows share with CIFS I can mount using SMBFS but unable to read for some reason.
[12:17] <lamego> n3rdism, do you want it auto mounted on boot ?
[12:17] <n3rdism> lamego: ill try that
[12:17] <TheGateKeeper> drbashir: I cooking on gas tonight, can answer question which I know bugger all about :-) don't worry we all get those days
[12:17] <n3rdism> lamego: that'd be nice :D
[12:17] <`m0> m4rk: how do I run the the network manager now :)
[12:17] <lamego> n3rdism, so you dont need to care about mouting it with a regular user
[12:17] <lamego> n3rdism, add it to the fstab with the prorper options, and sudo mount -a
[12:17] <m4rk> nm-applet is the proggy i think
[12:17] <lamego> n3rdism, is it a ntfs partition ?
[12:17] <redguy> n3rdism, check man mount if you need the user or users option in your fstab to make the volume mountable by other users than root
[12:18] <ExxonValdeez> Is there a way to figure what build  a live cd is? As in is it for amd64 or the 32-bit build?
[12:18] <pianoboy3333> It appears my synaptic is borked when I try and run `gksudo synaptic` help would be appreciated, I have posted the error at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21033
[12:18] <m4rk> I think you might gotta reboot or something
[12:18] <bigfuzzyjesus> dalila, i dont think there is a way... sorry
[12:18] <redguy> lamego, he won't neet the 'user' option if he's going to use sudo mount -a is he?
[12:18] <`m0> m4rk: okay
[12:18] <`m0> m4rk: Do you see the icon on the panel ?
[12:18] <FurryNemesis> pianoboy3333,
[12:18] <lamego> redguy, he doesnt care about the user option, he wants it mounted on boot also
[12:19] <n3rdism> lamego: its ext3 and when i do sudo mount -a it says /media/hdb1 does not exist
[12:19] <m4rk> yes `m0 but there was also some trick to get that running
[12:19] <ExxonValdeez> nvrmind
[12:19] <m4rk> you need to have a notification area showing, it appears in there
[12:19] <ExxonValdeez> got it
[12:19] <`m0> m4rk: Installing software on linux always deals with tricks :s
[12:20] <redguy> lamego, ah
[12:20] <pianoboy3333> FurryNemesis: yes.....?
[12:20] <nuxien> hello
[12:20] <m4rk> `m0: yeah it seems so but then it looks nice and funky and it has a cool start up sound
[12:20] <FurryNemesis> pianoboy3333, git a fix
[12:20] <nuxien> i would like to know the differences between testing and unstable
[12:20] <Volvo> hi where to look for "Sendmail Path", i need to submit a bug report and the tool wants something in the field
[12:20] <sparviero> S@luto tutto il Ch@nnel [ #ubuntu ]  --[ Siciliani Script v.1 ] -->>
[12:20] <Volvo> what should i do
[12:20] <FurryNemesis> pianoboy3333, had the same prob this morning, let me dig it up
[12:20] <m4rk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[12:20] <`m0> m4rk: hmm it rebootted
[12:21] <m4rk> OK
[12:21] <Kyja> ok I could use help with this... gnome baker was working now it wont launch. I have rebooted my computer as well and this still does not work for me.
[12:21] <FurryNemesis> pianoboy3333, here we go - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238668&highlight=libvte.so.4+synaptic
[12:21] <m4rk> there's lightning outside
[12:21] <FurryNemesis> there's a workaround here
[12:21] <`m0> m4rk: hehe
[12:22] <n3rdism> lamego: any idea why it says /media/hdb1 does not exist when i mount -a it?
[12:22] <adminx> hello room
[12:22] <xyblor> PROBLEM: Ubuntu doesn't want to connect remotely to my cygwin X11 server through SSH. It says "X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)." When I login with the -Y switch to SSH, I get "error in locking authority file ~/.Xauthority. How do I fix this?
[12:22] <cfedde> hellow channel
[12:23] <m4rk> :o
[12:23] <m4rk> hi cfedde
[12:23] <CBMz> Umm. Hi. does anyone know of a free webhost panel?
[12:23] <cfedde> :-)
[12:24] <lamego> n3rdism, have you created the dir ?
[12:24] <lamego> n3rdism, sudo mkdir /media/hdb1
[12:24] <m4rk> what's the ubuntu command for traceroute anyone?
[12:24] <adminx> tracert
[12:24] <Mez> m4rk, tracert ?
[12:25] <n3rdism> lamego: duh LOL thanks >:D
[12:25] <m4rk> it dont seem to have it
[12:25] <m4rk> arse
[12:25] <ompaul> m4rk, less langauge and more sudo tracroute
[12:25] <lamego> n3rdism, for ntfs use the following options on fstab, defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46
[12:25] <ompaul> m4rk, sudo traceroute  << last one missing an e
[12:25] <m4rk> ompaul: heh...sudo: traceroute: command not found
[12:26] <n3rdism> lamego: thx but im going to be using ext3
[12:26] <lamego> traceroute is not installed by default
[12:26] <lamego> n3rdism, ok :)
[12:26] <m4rk> lamego: ahhh right that would explain it thanks
[12:26] <ompaul> sudo apt-get install traceroute
[12:27] <m4rk> ompaul: thanks dude
[12:28] <ompaul> m4rk, yw
[12:28] <m4rk> lol  traceroute: unknown host sakofa.mine.nu
[12:28] <n3rdism> is there a good video program i can watch dvd's with full menu support, or maybe something for vlc?
[12:28] <david_> I have a Mustek 2100LP  flatbed scanner which is not USB, it is very old but still works.  Can anyone help me install the appropriate driver?
[12:28] <ompaul> m4rk, you need to point it at a machine that exists :)
[12:28] <lamego> m4rk, it is usual to ping the system first :)
[12:28] <kevin> hello, while trying to build madwifi i get the error after doing; make. /bin/sh: line 0: cd /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory
[12:28] <NickGarvey> 17 hops to google eh
[12:28] <ebel> n3rdism, I though vlc did do dvd menus....
[12:28] <NickGarvey> kevin: get your kernel sources
[12:29] <m4rk> ah i found it
[12:29] <n3rdism> ebel: well maybe its this movie, otogi zoshi, its just not cutting to the menu right away and freaks out when i just say play dvd
[12:29] <ebel> Oh... Dunno about that...
[12:30] <`m0> hmm
[12:31] <ompaul> david_, parallel? check out xsane see if it has the necessary goodies
[12:31] <`m0> I cannot run network manager
[12:31] <`m0> it freezes
[12:31] <`m0> I am typing nm-applet, and it doesn't do anything
[12:31] <ompaul> !enter
[12:31] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[12:31] <Kyja> please, why has gnomebaker stopped working??
[12:31] <[sharma] > xfce4 roxx - it's much faster on a p III 450 than gnome
[12:31] <david_> ompaul:  xsane errors.  My printer (which is working) is connected to my Mustek 1200 LP then to my PC.
[12:32] <Warbo> When I try to start X I get: "EE Failed to load module "exa" (module requirement mismatch, 0)"
[12:32] <Zambezi> Anyone tried Seveas gftp?
[12:32] <[sharma] > mov eax, exa
[12:33] <ompaul> `m0, try  network-admin
[12:33] <Warbo> [sharma] : Sorry?
[12:33] <david_> ompaul:  xsane says No Device Found
[12:33] <kevin> NickGarvey, can i grab them through apt-get?
[12:33] <ompaul> `m0, better yet >> gksudo network-admin
[12:33] <jujimufu> I do "sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.17", just as it says in https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KernelCustomBuild , but it says that this package does not exist. Any ideas?
[12:33] <[sharma] > just kiddin
[12:34] <Warbo> jujimufu: Are you using Dapper or Edgy?
[12:34] <`m0> ompaul: I wanted to let network manager take control of my network
[12:34] <jujimufu> Warbo: dapper
[12:34] <Warbo> jujimufu: That package isn't in Dapper. linux-source-2.6.15 is though
[12:34] <NickGarvey> kevin: yup.. I don't know the exact command though, but I'm sure someone knows
[12:34] <`m0> ompaul: I really don't understand why i don't see the icon on the top right
[12:34] <`m0> ompaul: http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[12:35] <kevin> NickGarvey, thanks anyway. i got the headers too
[12:35] <kevin> who knows, i may need them.
[12:35] <trygg> What is /dev/wacom ?
[12:35] <trygg> X complains about me not having it, so it wont start
[12:35] <Warbo> trygg: A graphics tablet
[12:35] <DktrKranz> hello
[12:35] <m4rk> `m0: what happens when you try to launch it?
[12:35] <Warbo> trygg: Try messing around in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (# is a comment)
[12:36] <david_> so my printer is working and is connected to my Mustek 1200 LP flatbed scanner (which is not working yet, because XSane tells me no device found)  anyone have a suggestion?
[12:36] <TheBlue> Hi all, I just installed Ubuntu 6.06 LTS on my mom's new laptop, and she has a Linksys WPC54G PCMCIA 802.11g wireless card.  I have an unsecured wireless network, and her laptop simply refuses to connect to my network.
[12:36] <DktrKranz> i have a problem logging in into ubuntu wiki
[12:36] <`m0> m4rk: it says m0@m0=laptop:~$ nm-applet
[12:36] <trygg> Warbo: Something special i should look for?
[12:36] <DktrKranz> i fear i've selected "disable my account forever" :(
[12:36] <`m0> m4rk: And the cursor goes to the next line empty
[12:36] <DktrKranz> any suggestion?
[12:36] <lophyte> anyone know what package you need to enable ntfs support in gparted?
[12:36] <Warbo> trygg: There should be device sections for wacom, and in server bit at the bottom
[12:36] <Warbo> !into ntfs-progs
[12:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about into ntfs-progs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:36] <Warbo> dammit
[12:37] <lophyte> just the name is fine :P
[12:37] <lophyte> thanks
[12:37] <soundray> !info ntfsprogs
[12:37] <ubotu> ntfsprogs: tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 1.12.1-1 (dapper), package size 205 kB, installed size 532 kB
[12:37] <Warbo> No - (just ntfsprogs)
[12:37] <Warbo> Exactly
[12:37] <soundray> There you go Warbo, s/into/info/
[12:38] <Warbo> Oh yeah, I spelt info wrong. I'm a dumbass :)
[12:38] <trygg> Warbo: Really wierd, where has it come from? It wasnt there before
[12:38] <ompaul> `m0, done this yet?: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[12:38] <m4rk> `m0: what if you type ps -A|grep nm
[12:38] <Warbo> trygg: It is added by dpkg-reconfigure (I don't know if it is there by default)
[12:38] <`m0> ompaul: I removed it now and reinstalling it. Yes I did that
[12:39] <dalila> bigfuzzyjesus: looking
[12:39] <`m0> m4rk: i did that and i see a process assigned to it...
[12:39] <m4rk> OK
[12:39] <m4rk> do you have a notification area on one of your panels?
[12:40] <[sharma] > whats the grep syntax for "search in all files for a text file containing mailto: " ?
[12:40] <`m0> m4rk: no I don'
[12:40] <Warbo> Anyone know how to fix my module-mismatch problem for X? (posted above a bit) It happened after intalling xserver-xorg-air
[12:40] <m4rk> `m0: try adding one
[12:40] <Warbo> "cat * | grep "mailto[:] " I would think
[12:40] <soundray> [sharma] : you'd have to combine with find for that
[12:40] <`m0> m4rk: But where is the location of that panel?
[12:41] <`m0> m4rk: Network Monitor?
[12:41] <m4rk> `m0: what do you mean?
[12:41] <`m0> m4rk: How do I add one.
[12:41] <[sharma] > the cat one don't work...
[12:41] <Warbo> grep -f filename I think (so "grep -f * "mailto"")
[12:42] <m4rk> `m0: right click on the menu bar at the top of your screen and select Add
[12:42] <soundray> [sharma] : 'find . -iname *.txt -print0 | xargs -0 grep mailto: '
[12:42] <`m0> m4rk: yes, but which panel ? I don't see network manager
[12:42] <m4rk> I don't know :(
[12:43] <m4rk> `m0: do you have the panel
[12:44] <[sharma] > soundray: that works, ty
[12:44] <`m0> m4rk: no I don't have the panel
[12:44] <m4rk> argh i just deleted my panel!
[12:45] <xyblor> ls
[12:45] <`m0> lol
[12:45] <jon_> Hello
[12:45] <`m0> m4rk: how do you add it
[12:46] <jon_> I never want to use windows again
[12:46] <jon_> =)
[12:46] <soundray> jon_: why not? They can be very useful, if you want some daylight in a room, say...
[12:47] <poison> hello?
[12:47] <jon_> soundray: what do you mean?
[12:47] <ompaul> jon_, mine are PVC based
[12:47] <soundray> jon_: oh, you mean that proprietary operating system.
[12:47] <jon_> yes
[12:47] <jon_> i meant Microsoft Windows
[12:47] <ompaul> jon_, I used to have wooden ones
[12:47] <jon_> =P
[12:48] <floppyears> hi
[12:48] <floppyears> is there a command or way of telling what ram speed and  type of ram my pc uses ?
[12:48] <jon_> haha
[12:48] <dicesquirrel> Question... I want to install Blackshades (http://icculus.org/blackshades/) but it says the linux version is only available via SVN. I don't exactly know what this is, and I thought it might be a package, like CVS, so I tried sudo apt-get install svn, but there is no package by that name. What should I do?
[12:48] <ompaul> floppyears, try sudo lshw
[12:48] <Warbo> Wooden windows? You mean someone boarded them up?
[12:48] <lamego> dicesquirrel, the package name is subversion
[12:48] <poison> anyone know the main difference between CIFS and SMBFS?
[12:49] <dicesquirrel> Ah!
[12:49] <floppyears> awesome thanks ompaul
[12:49] <ompaul> Warbo, no replaced them with double glazing and I want someone to tell we are offtopic :)
[12:49] <jon_> whats so bad about offtopic =P
[12:49] <mcphail> !offtopic
[12:49] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:49] <jon_> i see
[12:50] <jon_> ty
[12:50] <dicesquirrel> lamego, do you know if there's a GUI wrapper for subversion. Basically, apt-get:synaptic::subversion:???
[12:50] <mcphail> ;)
[12:50] <soundray> jon_: nothing bad about it -- it should just be taken elsewhere
[12:50] <dicesquirrel> Something like that?
[12:50] <jon_> Has the #1 bug been fixed yet?
[12:50] <lamego> dicesquirrel, no idea
[12:50] <ompaul> m4rk, try gnome-panel
[12:51] <sorush20> how do I get a graphics table to work in linux is there anything like sane around?
[12:51] <ompaul> xsane
[12:51] <lamego> dicesquirrel, are you creating an installer ?
[12:51] <ompaul> jon_, we are applying patches on a daily basis
[12:51] <jon_> i see
[12:51] <poison> also when I added entries to fstab my mounts do not mount automatically I have to do a mount -a does this command need to go somewhere?
[12:52] <m4rk> i got it back thanks ompaul
[12:52] <ompaul> m4rk, great stuff
[12:52] <dicesquirrel> lamego, it gives me a source directory, so I'm making it from there. Looks like I need openAL and the SDL for it, though. Do you know what those packages are called, in apt-get?
[12:52] <Warbo> poison: fstab is mounted at boot or when mount -a is run
[12:52] <lamego> poison, make sure you have the "auto" option, or the "defaults" which includes it
[12:52] <`m0> m4rk: what was wrong
[12:53] <m4rk> i deleted it by accident
[12:53] <lamego> dicesquirrel, sudo apt-cache search openal dev
[12:53] <poison> Where is this auto option? do I add it to the end //servname/share nfs auto ?
[12:53] <`m0> m4rk: did you retrieve it
[12:54] <poison> I mean servername/share /mountpoint/mount auto?
[12:54] <lamego> poison, the /etc/fstab has a nice header naming each column :)
[12:54] <lamego> its the options column :)
[12:54] <poison> oh ok I gotcha
[12:54] <jon_>  The ubuntu installer needs more choices for the timezone setting
[12:55] <soundray> jon_: what's missing?
[12:55] <kevin> NickGarvey, that never worked either.
[12:55] <jon_> Or at least be able to set your timezone manually, e.g. GMT-6
[12:55] <jon_> well
[12:55] <jon_> i live in wisconsin, USA
[12:55] <kevin> i installed linux-source and linux-source-2.6.15
[12:55] <kevin> no differences.
[12:55] <jon_> in the timezone GMT -6:00
[12:55] <Tehcarp> Hello...
[12:55] <jon_> there is nothing even close to my state using GMT -6:00 at all
[12:56] <torpedo|dog> jon_: are you sure?
[12:56] <jon_> i'm pretty sure yeah
[12:56] <jon_> i looked
[12:56] <poison> I have one share that is on a windows box and I can mount it but not read unless I use CIFS instead of SMBFS. Is that normal?
[12:56] <clee> does edgy's gnome-panel flicker angrily at anyone else here?
[12:56] <soundray> jon_: that's bog standard, you need to look again
[12:56] <Tehcarp> Jon, use canada
[12:56] <torpedo|dog> jon_: you should just pick Chicago, since that's a city in Central time
[12:56] <Warbo> I would think that anything using GMT-6 would be OK. The only weird stuff is like choosing London gives you BST (British Summer Time)
[12:56] <lamego> poison, as far as I know smbfs is enough to read windows/samba shares
[12:57] <jon_> does chicago use gmt-6?
[12:57] <torpedo|dog> jon_: it is configured using cities so that it is intelligent about daylight saving time.
[12:57] <Tehcarp> Anyone super skilled in this whole linux thing that could talk me through how I might get this one game I just love to play to work on Linux??? It's not a complicated game or anything... it's just Apprentice
[12:57] <poison> I was able to read and write a couple of days ago but now for some reason I can not unless I mount as CIFS
[12:57] <torpedo|dog> jon_: you're in central time, so is Chicago
[12:57] <lamego> Tehcarp, is it a linux game ?
[12:57] <torpedo|dog> jon_: that and technically it's UTC-5 right now ;)
[12:57] <eyeinthesky> hi to all
[12:58] <lamego> i mean, linux version
[12:58] <rustlerharv> i almost thought my linux was a gonner
[12:58] <Tehcarp> no, but It would be cool of you if you looked at it to see if it was possible
[12:58] <jon_> wait what
[12:58] <jon_> aggh whatever
[12:58] <lamego> Tehcarp, so you should be looking for help on a Wine channel :)
[12:58] <Tehcarp> I can get a link to it for you...
[12:58] <Tehcarp> Ok, what is a wine channel?
[12:58] <lamego> Wine/Cedega
[12:58] <Tehcarp> #wine ?
[12:58] <lamego> no idea if there is a channel on freenode for it
[12:58] <bbrazil> #winehq
[12:59] <torpedo|dog> jon_: just use Chicago and don't worry :)
[12:59] <eyeinthesky> anyone who tries to run xgl with ati 9550 with dapper ?
[12:59] <jeff303> getting this in a FF crash (on the std err I assume): The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.  This probably reflects a bug in the program.  The error was 'BadShmSeg (invalid shared segment parameter)'
[12:59] <unkn0wn2u> I upgraded from breezy and now mplayer doesn't start and says missing libpolyp-0.8.so.0 , what should i do?
[12:59] <lamego> Tehcarp, also give a read on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[01:00] <jujimufu> I just did "sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15" and it finished, but there are no new files in /usr/src/
[01:00] <Tehcarp> k thanks lamego
[01:00] <lamego> Juftus, you will need to untar the file yourself
[01:00] <lamego> its linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2 on /usr/src
[01:00] <soundray> unkn0wn2u: try this: 'sudo apt-get install libao-polyp'
[01:00] <soundray> jeff303: are you running Xgl?
[01:01] <rustlerharv> is there any way to get more fonts for open office
[01:01] <Malagmyr> I'm using the graphical installer on the livecd. If I resize my NTFS partition, do I lose all the data, or will WinXP still be bootable with some work?
[01:01] <unkn0wn2u> soundray, not found
[01:01] <KillerDemon> does anybody know how to remove windows vista (on a apart partition) without making the old xp partition unbootable? because i want to install linux on the vista paprtition
[01:01] <soundray> !info libao-polyp
[01:01] <ubotu> Package libao-polyp does not exist in dapper
[01:01] <soundray> oh
[01:01] <NickGarvey> Malagmyr: defrag first!
[01:01] <Tehcarp> The game I am trying to play is nowhere near as complicated as WoW or BF2
[01:01] <Tehcarp> it's a 2d card game...
[01:01] <lamego> Tehcarp, so try it with wine
[01:01] <IceOwl> Malagmyr: I would recommend against resizing partitions, especially those for other operating systems
[01:02] <kitche> Malagmyr: that is a tricky part since you might lose some data if you partition the ntfs down to far
[01:02] <TheGame> is there a way to edit whats in the places menu in gnome
[01:02] <soundray> !info libpolyp0
[01:02] <ubotu> Package libpolyp0 does not exist in dapper
[01:02] <lamego> Tehcarp, sudo atp-get install wine
[01:02] <lamego> ops, apt
[01:02] <TheGame> like i want to get rid of the desktop item on th eplaces menu
[01:02] <Malagmyr> Thanks, guys. I'll run some windowsy partition programs to downsize the partition first then
[01:03] <Warbo> I would recommend GParted over any Windows partitioner
[01:03] <unkn0wn2u> soundray, libpolyp0 exists in breezy
[01:03] <Warbo> the Linux NTFS resizing tools have never destroyed a partiton when used correctly, I believe
[01:03] <Icebox> hi, i was wondering how the latest ubuntu will run on a 333mhz celeron with 128mb memory. will it be usable?
[01:04] <Warbo> Icebox: Use Xubuntu or some other desktop environment (like Fluxbox)
[01:04] <soundray> unkn0wn2u: mplayer shouldn't depend on anything that doesn't exist any more. Have you upgraded mplayer along with your system?
[01:04] <Icebox> kde/gnome will be frustrating? hehe
[01:04] <KillerDemon> if i install ubuntu over a win vista partition (with xp on another hdd) can grub just boot xp?
[01:04] <Icebox> never tried it out on such an old box
[01:04] <mcphail> TheGame: if you find out about editing that menu, let me know
[01:05] <soundray> KillerDemon: probably. If not, you'll find grub info on the wiki.
[01:05] <TheGame> will do
[01:05] <lamego> Icebox, also use the text mode installer, alternate cd
[01:05] <unkn0wn2u> soundray, I think so , but what is the latest version in ubuntu
[01:05] <KillerDemon> okay, because normally if i remove the vista partition xp becomes unbootable :s (missing files)
[01:06] <`m0> m4rk: any news how to retrieve the network manager gnome icon to the panel
[01:06] <TheGame> mcphail: im reading that it cant be done
[01:06] <lamego> KillerDemon, I guess that is because you will change the partition names inside windows, by deleting one partition...
[01:06] <soundray> unkn0wn2u: here, it is "Installed: 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8". But this is amd64. Do an 'apt-cache policy mplayer'
[01:06] <mcphail> TheGame: where?
[01:06] <TheGame> ubuntuforums
[01:07] <timalot> anyone know why the update manger doesnt show the changelog of package updates anymore? this is becoming like wild west world of window updates....
[01:07] <timalot> s
[01:07] <mcphail> TheGame: i doubt it is impossible - probably just an obscure binary file somewhere
[01:07] <Icebox> Whats the difference with ubuntu and kubuntu? :o
[01:07] <KillerDemon> no lamego my vista partition is  v:  and hda is c: (where xp is on)  but vista still messes up xp
[01:08] <unkn0wn2u> soundray, 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8
[01:08] <Ermanno> ubuntu is gnome based, kubuntu is KDE based
[01:08] <m4rk> `m0: do you ha ve a panel?
[01:08] <lamego> killefiz, partition names dont have nothing to do with drive letters
[01:08] <lamego> erm, i mean KillerDemon
[01:08] <m4rk> `m0: right click on a panel and click `add`
[01:08] <lamego> anyway, windows discussions are offtopic :)
[01:08] <m4rk> Add to Panel
[01:09] <KillerDemon> lamego yes, but the vista partition is the only part. on hdb
[01:09] <dalila> !printing
[01:09] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:09] <kitche> lamego: it's not offtopic if he doesn't want to emss up his xp partition while installing ubuntu I think
[01:09] <Ropechoborra> How do i change the owner of a partition?
[01:09] <KillerDemon> kitche  yep :)
[01:10] <dalila> Ropechoborra: u mean mount point?
[01:10] <Flannel> Ropechoborra: partitions don't have owners
[01:10] <lamego> well, the doubt is not about installing ubuntu, is about deleting vista :P
[01:10] <Mukunda> Hmm anyone here using an intel 950? I'm having problems with playing h264 video.
[01:10] <farous> need a recomendation here have to options for external HD a comstar 300gb which is basically a Maxtor 6L 300 R0 drive and the other option is a maxtor 200gb one touch II hd. Any recommend which is better in terms of heat and spinning down when not used specifically
[01:10] <tyler_d> I am used to using macromedia dreamweaver, and would like a program similair to that for ubuntu?
[01:10] <KillerDemon> the plan is to install ubuntu over the vista part.  :)
[01:10] <Flannel> tyler_d: nvu
[01:10] <lamego> Ropechoborra, please specify your problem instead of a non sense question :)
[01:10] <`m0> m4rk :I do have a panel
[01:10] <TheGame> maybe so mcphail
[01:10] <Ropechoborra> Flannel dalila , for eg. i got an fat32, but every file in there are owned by root, when i try to do sudo chown it says that im not allowed
[01:10] <`m0> m4rk: what do I do next?
[01:11] <TheGame> but i probably wont spend that time looking for it
[01:11] <kevin> people, im geting the error "/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build was not found" when i try to build madwifi using; make. I downloaded the sources, and headers. Anyone got an idea why?
[01:11] <m4rk> `m0: right click on it and select Add to Panel
[01:11] <Ropechoborra> I supouse its a fstab problem
[01:11] <tyler_d> Flannel: is that a regular pack, or do I need to get it from somewhere?
[01:11] <Flannel> Ropechoborra: you need to fix your umask, in fstab
[01:11] <lamego> KillerDemon, deleting a partition does not touch the other partitions, what it can affect is the partitions naming/ids
[01:11] <Ropechoborra> I got this /dev/hda2       /media/hda2 vfat umask=0000 0 0
[01:11] <unkn0wn2u> soundray, oops i had mplayer and mplayer-686 installed
[01:11] <Flannel> tyler_d: its in the repositories... main, i think.  might be universe
[01:11] <farous> Ropechoborra: : this is specified in our fstab file
[01:11] <`m0> m4rk: Yes, I know, but what Do I add/
[01:11] <Mukunda> Guess not.
[01:11] <soundray> unkn0wn2u: strange, that shouldn't be possible...
[01:12] <lamego> Ropechoborra, you can't change owners on fat partitions
[01:12] <soundray> unkn0wn2u: how did you do your upgrade?
[01:12] <lamego> whats the problem on having them owned by root :P ?
[01:12] <m4rk> `m0: a Notification Area
[01:12] <unkn0wn2u> soundray, i made a deb in breezy
[01:12] <lamego> you are using a 0000 umask ...
[01:12] <trygg> What are the available drivers for keyboard-section in xorg-conf? I have xkb and it fails.
[01:12] <Ropechoborra> lamego :S what do i do then?
[01:12] <soundray> unkn0wn2u: I mean, your breezy to dapper upgrade
[01:12] <KillerDemon> lamego, i ment that my bios boots hda (xp) and vista is on hdb, but when i delete the hdb partition the xp partition doesnt boot anymore
[01:13] <lamego> Ropechoborra, why would you do it ? FAT doesn't know about your linux users :)
[01:13] <dalila> anyone able to use a lexmarkz45 printer with linux or know if it will work
[01:13] <unkn0wn2u> apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:13] <m4rk> lexmark sux
[01:13] <kitche> KillerDemon grub should be able to boot windows xp fine if you install it correctly
[01:13] <Ropechoborra> lamego i got some files there without writing permission
[01:13] <unkn0wn2u> wtf apt-get install mplayer-386 deps on mplayer
[01:13] <`m0> m4rk: AHHH your da man :D
[01:13] <dalila> m4rk: i am doing a fsavor and trying to configure a laptop for my sis
[01:14] <KillerDemon> okay kitche i will just try it then :)
[01:14] <dalila> she has a lexmark printer
[01:14] <m4rk> dalila: how old is she?
[01:14] <tuxtux_> good night
[01:14] <lamego> Ropechoborra, with umask 000 you are getting writing permission problems ?
[01:14] <Kyja> PLEASE !! Why has gnomebaker all of a sudden stopped launching ???
[01:14] <kitche> KillerDemon: I would explain it but I m not familiar in dual booting anymore
[01:14] <ompaul> !shout
[01:14] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:14] <RAZVRATNIK>             !!!!!!!!!
[01:14] <lamego> Kyja, open it on a terminal, and look for the error
[01:14] <m4rk> `m0: it's working? cool
[01:15] <Icebox> So, how much space does a default ubuntu installation use?
[01:15] <RAZVRATNIK> 
[01:15] <RAZVRATNIK>   
[01:15] <Ropechoborra> lamego No, there are some files in the fat that are only writable by root
[01:15] <Kyja> ready?
[01:15] <Kyja> GTK Accessibility Module initialized
[01:15] <Kyja> GThread-ERROR **: GThread system may only be initialized once.
[01:15] <Kyja> aborting...
[01:15] <byen> quick question.. how do i prevent Ubuntu from making a .trash folder in every drive?
[01:15] <Kyja> Aborted
[01:15] <Kyja> kyja@ubuntu:~$
[01:15] <KillerDemon> kitche, it's just that my xp part. redirects to the vista bootloader, to boot xp with that
[01:15] <KillerDemon> stupid vista
[01:15] <KillerDemon> etc.
[01:15] <Kyja> it does not show up in the list of prosseses
[01:16] <lamego> Ropechoborra, that is very unlikely, anyway you can set the user with wich the files are mounted on fstab
[01:16] <lamego> just add uid=id
[01:16] <ompaul> Kyja, you should not paste in this chaannel you should paste in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:16] <lamego> of your userid
[01:16] <Kyja> oh ic ok I will rememb er that sorry
[01:17] <lamego> byen, a dirty solution would be to chmod 000 on it :P
[01:17] <byen> lamego, i remember chaging some setting on gconf to fix this on Breezy ..i just dont remember where
[01:17] <TheGame> some1 want to tell me why gdesklets weather cant retrieve my city
[01:17] <Ropechoborra> lamego what? the problem is that i got some files (not all, but some) without the writing permission, and i cant change it because it doesnt allow  me to do it. What can i do to change its permissions?
[01:18] <lamego> Ropechoborra, you can't , please read my last lines about setting the uid on the fstab
[01:18] <soundray> TheGame: other people have reported this - probably a server-side problem
[01:18] <lamego> but it is very unlike that you can write to them with umask 000
[01:19] <Icebox> So, how much space does a default ubuntu installation use?
[01:19] <Ropechoborra> lamego you mean i can set the owner of the files from fstab?
[01:19] <TheGame> oh
[01:20] <lamego> yes
[01:20] <Ropechoborra> :) nice
[01:20] <Ropechoborra> How?
[01:20] <ompaul> Kyja, think if you do >> killall gnomebaker<< in a terminal you might have some luck the next time you try it
[01:20] <lamego> Icebox, about 2 GBs
[01:20] <deltab> 2.3
[01:20] <Kyja> ah I will try that thx ompaul
[01:20] <trygg> Warbo: Do you have any idea what i should do about 'bad length in Compatmap'?
[01:20] <b0ysc0ut> hello yall
[01:21] <Bassetts> how can i make ssh log me in automatically
[01:21] <deltab> use keys and ssh-agent
[01:21] <rob_p> Bassetts, Use public-key authentication.
[01:21] <Bassetts> is there a howto?
[01:22] <soundray> Bassetts: generate a key pair and add the .pub part to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote host
[01:22] <trygg> How do i change the message that comes up when i log into my user?
[01:22] <deltab> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/keychain/
[01:22] <soundray> Bassetts: http://pkeck.myweb.uga.edu/ssh/
[01:22] <Kyja> ompaul: funny, it tells me no proccess is killed and still complains about the thread system.
[01:22] <b0ysc0ut> problems with the Java
[01:22] <b0ysc0ut> anyone?
[01:22] <Kyja> oh :O
[01:22] <soundray> trygg: edit /etc/motd
[01:23] <Kyja> threading to the device
[01:23] <ompaul> Kyja, it is confused - methinks a reboot might be in order
[01:23] <Kyja> I may have a nother burner as a conflict
[01:23] <lamego> !! anyone
[01:23] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:23] <Kyja> I have rebooted and also uninstalled and reinstalled gnomebaker
[01:23] <trygg> soundray: thanks!
[01:23] <ompaul> b0ysc0ut, so ask the channel your question (don't ask me I don't know anything about that stuff)
[01:23] <Kyja> its realy strange thing.
[01:24] <lamego> byen, as far i could see there is an option just to make it invisible
[01:24] <`m0> m4rk: Yes :) Works nice!
[01:24] <lamego> it is still created
[01:24] <m4rk> `m0: nice one m8
[01:24] <lamego> setting it chmod 000 should work
[01:24] <Ropechoborra> lamego wich umask should be to set the owner of the fat?
[01:24] <lmosher> I installed Ubuntu on /dev/hda2 then XP on /dev/hda3 and of course XP installed over the MBR. I know there's a pretty easy method to re-install Grub in the MBR from the liveDVD - what's the method?
[01:24] <m4rk> any good secure irc client
[01:24] <lamego> Ropechoborra, dont change it
[01:24] <Ropechoborra> What should i do then?
[01:24] <lamego> lmosher, boot the live cd with rescue mode
[01:25] <soundray> lmosher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:25] <lmosher> lamego, and then do what? it'll just take care of it? heh
[01:25] <lamego> then sudo grub-install partition
[01:25] <lmosher> ok ty
[01:25] <lamego> lmosher, no, you will need to tell it to install :P
[01:25] <`m0> wow everything is working on ubuntu :) EXCEPT XG L
[01:25] <lamego> erm wait
[01:25] <lamego> not partition
[01:25] <lamego> device
[01:25] <lmosher> I knew what you meant. grub doesn't go in a partition :P
[01:25] <Flannel> `m0: XGL isn't supported yet
[01:25] <lamego> make sure you know the device name of the disk: fdisk -l
[01:25] <`m0> AIGLX
[01:25] <lamego> ok :)
[01:26] <lmosher> XGL works great for me
[01:26] <Warbo> `m0: You using XGL or AIGLX?
[01:26] <KillerDemon> `m0 on xubuntu 6.10 xgl works out of the box
[01:26] <`m0> :) A guy from #ubuntu-xgl was helping us and it doesn't work great, it freezes
[01:26] <`m0> Warbo: AIGLX
[01:26] <lmosher> `m0, what card? it's really pretty easy if you follow the guide on help.ubuntu.com
[01:26] <Warbo> `m0: Watch out if you follow the Wiki page, it screwed my Xorg (I put a warning on it)
[01:26] <`m0> KillerDemon: Hmmm I have the newst Ubuntu build
[01:27] <KillerDemon> yes
[01:27] <KillerDemon> i sais xubuntu :)
[01:27] <KillerDemon> *said
[01:27] <tyler_d> how do Install just one extra font??
[01:27] <`m0> lmosher: Hmm the guy who did the docs helped us, but both of us experienced freezes
[01:27] <Warbo> !fonts
[01:27] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[01:27] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[01:27] <`m0> lmosher: I have a Intel Video Card
[01:28] <`m0> Warbo: hmm :s I have no warning, but when I run the Compiz it freezes
[01:28] <KillerDemon> intell has a special open source site `m0
[01:28] <Kyja> oh man I saw somewhere where you can get the font used in the Ubuntu flash screen.
[01:28] <`m0> KillerDemon: What is xbuntu ?
[01:28] <Warbo> I got Compiz working in AIGLX on my Radeon, but it was damn slow so I got rid of it. Problem is that I have to use AIGLX now because Xorg doesn't work
[01:28] <deltab> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/12/download-and-install-the-ubuntu-title-font/
[01:28] <Warbo> `m0: I mean I added a warning to the page on help.ubuntu.com
[01:28] <TheGame> y do people use xubuntu
[01:28] <KillerDemon> `m0 www.xubuntu.com
[01:28] <CptBrutal> anyone have or use a wireless game controller (USB)? does it work? or should it atleast?
[01:28] <TheGame> i dont see how its better than kde or gnome
[01:29] <sergiol> $ whereis gs
[01:29] <sergiol> gs: /usr/bin/gs /usr/bin/X11/gs /usr/share/man/man1/gs.1.gz
[01:29] <sergiol> sergio@ubuntuCopyCenter:~$ gs
[01:29] <sergiol> bash: /usr/local/bin/gs: No such file or directory
[01:29] <Warbo> TheGame: It takes less resources
[01:29] <KillerDemon> TheGame i use xubuntu on a amd k6 400mhz
[01:29] <`m0> KillerDemon: ah no need to reinstall ubunty lol
[01:29] <lamego> TheBlue, xubuntu is usually used on lower resource systems
[01:29] <sergiol> can  somebody explain me that?
[01:29] <TheGame> o
[01:29] <lamego> erm, TheGame
[01:29] <TheGame> what
[01:29] <Warbo> I don't like Xubuntu personally, and like Fluxbox on slow systems, but each to his own
[01:29] <TheGame> so y not use dsl
[01:29] <tyler_d> ok... now where can I get ubuntu fonts?
[01:30] <soundray> sergiol: 'sudo mv /usr/local/bin/gs /usr/local/bin/gs-moved', then try again
[01:30] <Warbo> #DSL uses WindowMaker or Fluxbox I think
[01:30] <MaxL> How do I get amaRok to find my network? Where all my music is located.
[01:30] <TheGame> what program do most people use to update their ipod
[01:30] <lamego> seraphim, `which gs`
[01:30] <`m0> anyone here familiar with glxinfo Information?
[01:30] <lamego> erm, i meant sergiol
[01:30] <tyler_d> gtpod
[01:30] <KillerDemon> but xubuntu has xgl working out of-the-box, even on a ati rage lt 8mb
[01:30] <sergiol> why when i do gs it is poiting me to a
[01:30] <sergiol> mv: cannot stat `/usr/local/bin/gs': No such file or directory
[01:30] <Warbo> `m0: Only the Direct Rendering part
[01:30] <tyler_d> TheGame: TheGame
[01:30] <lamego> `m0, just about seeing if 3d hw is on/off :)
[01:30] <TheGame> ?
[01:30] <soundray> sergiol: 'sudo mv /usr/local/bin/gs /usr/local/bin/gs-moved', then try again
[01:31] <`m0> hmm :)
[01:31] <jrib> when I press ctrl-alt-f8 there seems to be another instance of X starting, it's loading my startup scripts and such.  How can I stop this?
[01:31] <`m0> Okay lets see :)
[01:31] <tyler_d> TheGame: sorry, gtkpod
[01:31] <ych> ok, ive got a problem here... my internet isnt working... if i use the graphic interface (system --> preferences --> networking) to set a static IP, I can access my router and everything on my local area network. but I cant get to anything in the www. and if i set to DHCP, like i used to set it to, i cant even do anything in lan
[01:31] <Warbo> jrib: Those are the boot messages
[01:31] <soundray> sergiol: most likely, you have a rogue gs lying around in /usr/local/bin
[01:31] <TheGame> gtkpod will check it out
[01:31] <m0> http://pastebin.ca/138120
[01:31] <sergiol> the file doe not exit
[01:31] <m0> :)
[01:31] <lamego> sergiol, try which gs
[01:31] <LuisMendes> where can I get 'ximagesrc' in order to run Istambul on Dapper?
[01:31] <tyler_d> TheGame: sudo apt-get install gtkpod... I think, I'm still new
[01:31] <jrib> Warbo: oh, so those are always there.  Good, I was wondering what was going on
[01:31] <sergiol> $ which gs
[01:31] <sergiol> /usr/bin/gs
[01:31] <TheGame> will see
[01:32] <`m0> Take a look at this link: Do you guys have any idea why I have those warnings: http://pastebin.ca/138120
[01:32] <tomasz27> Hi ALL
[01:32] <lamego> sergiol, i have seen that happening before, whereis did some kind of caching
[01:32] <warlock__> Does anyone know how to make my motd display the IP im connected from?
[01:32] <TheGame> ya tyler_d ur right
[01:32] <TheGame> it worked
[01:32] <tyler_d> TheGame: yay for me
[01:32] <mcphail> lamego: bash caches the locations of executable files
[01:33] <tyler_d> TheGame: make sure that you unmount that before unplugging it
[01:33] <lamego> mcphail, ok, that explains it :)
[01:33] <tyler_d> TheGame: otherwise it gets messed and you need to reboot...
[01:33] <sergiol> is it a good idea to reboot?
[01:33] <TheGame> is there an unmount feature in the program
[01:33] <tomasz27> What does "enable SSH" mean? As a regular home user of Ubuntu should I worry about this?
[01:33] <Dodzey> ive got a strange problem, synaptic errors out saying that libvte.so.4 can't be found
[01:33] <lamego> sergiol, you dont need to reboot, just call it with the full path
[01:33] <TheGame> or do i do it in terminal
[01:33] <MaxL> does anyone use amarok
[01:33] <Warbo> MaxL: I do
[01:33] <nopcode> tomasz27: you should worry about not knowing what ssh is
[01:33] <mcphail> lamego: there is a command line switch which turns it off
[01:33] <sergiol> lamgo: portugus?
[01:33] <tyler_d> TheGame: no, in term.... sudo umount "insert ipod name here"
[01:34] <lamego> sergiol, yes
[01:34] <sergiol> lamego: portugus?
[01:34] <tomasz27> please tell me
[01:34] <TheGame> o
[01:34] <tyler_d> TheGame: again, I'm new.....
[01:34] <sergiol> eu tambm
[01:34] <MaxL> Warbo: CAn you listen to music over a network? Or is your computer just on your pc.
[01:34] <lamego> sergiol, erm, thats for #ubuntu-pt
[01:34] <lamego> :P
[01:34] <TheGame> i see
[01:34] <tyler_d> fonts? anyone know where I can get extra's?
[01:34] <lamego> !! fonts
[01:34] <TheGame> ya
[01:34] <Warbo> MaxL: I don't have a network
[01:34] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[01:34] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[01:34] <TheGame> tyler i use patched libcairo pckgs
[01:34] <jujimufu> I just untarred the linux-sources-2.6.15 file in /usr/src, and when I get on /usr/src/linux-sources-2.6.15, there is absolutely NO folder named "debian", which the tutorial on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KernelCustomBuild suggest.
[01:34] <jujimufu> s
[01:34] <ych> MaxL it has to be locally mounted
[01:34] <TheGame> and they look good
[01:34] <sergiol>  /j #ubuntu.pt leva-me a um canal vazio
[01:34] <Warbo> KDE integrates network directories well, so I would think that Amarok can use them like normal folders
[01:34] <ych> if you use samba for network, you cant play it
[01:34] <lamego> sergiol, #ubuntu-pt
[01:35] <MaxL> ych: I'm pretty sure its mounted. o_o;;
[01:35] <sergiol>  /j #ubuntu-pt
[01:35] <ych> but if you use NFS you can mount the remote dir locally
[01:35] <soundray> warlock__: don't use motd for that. Just add 'echo $SSH_CLIENT' to $HOME/.bashrc
[01:35] <ych> well, if the location of the file you want to play starts with / it'll work
[01:35] <david_> Does faad preserve tag information?
[01:35] <ych> otherwise its not local enough
[01:35] <Warbo> lol
[01:35] <ych> i had the same problem
[01:35] <ych> trying to play stuff off my win machine
[01:36] <ych> but now i have my files on a linux server
[01:36] <MaxL> ych: How do you locally mount something?
[01:36] <ych> ummmm, if youre using samba, i think its not possible
[01:36] <jujimufu> I just untarred the linux-sources-2.6.15 file in /usr/src, and when I get on /usr/src/linux-sources-2.6.15, there is absolutely NO folder named "debian", which the tutorial on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KernelCustomBuild suggests.
[01:36] <nso> Question: I downloaded a windows OS that wont actualy boot at startup but it will as a program. And when I try to install Windows through Ubuntu it gives me an error message saying I need to use 'Dynamic Update'. Anyone ever had this problem?
[01:36] <MaxL> ych: Samba?
[01:36] <ych> windows share
[01:36] <chrisbudden14> whats ubuntu's default font?
[01:36] <jujimufu> MaxL: you do "sudo mount /dev/devicename /media/devicename
[01:37] <ych> where is this file youre trying to play?
[01:37] <lamego> jujimufu, the wiki was outdated the last time i have checked it
[01:37] <warlock__> soundray, and exactly what does it do?
[01:37] <MaxL> jujimufu, thanks
[01:37] <wabz> what has happened to my fonts!!! everything is unreadable!!!
[01:37] <wabz> in a recent update
[01:37] <tyler_d> TheGame: how did you get those installed?
[01:37] <soundray> warlock__: it shows the content of the variable SSH_CLIENT, which is set when you login remotely through ssh
[01:38] <ych> anyone able to help me?
[01:38] <wabz> is this font thing a known issue? why has an update managed to screw up my fonts so badly?
[01:38] <ych> ok, ive got a problem here... my internet isnt working... if i use the graphic interface (system --> preferences --> networking) to set a static IP, I can access my router and everything on my local area network. but I cant get to anything in the www. and if i set to DHCP, like i used to set it to, i cant even do anything in lan
[01:38] <MaxL> jujimufu, so dev stays dev? Devicename is the name of the device, you leave media as media and you leave devicename as whatever, is the devicename the IP Adress? (:
[01:38] <Bassetts> how can i make a shell script to login to my shell account over ssh then run a shell script on the server then exit?
[01:38] <wefwef> k
[01:38] <jujimufu> MaxL: what do you want to mount exactly?
[01:38] <andrej> Hi - which package do I net to apt-get to get the man-pages for the standard-library, e.g. looking up printf?
[01:39] <Melectaus--> I installed ubuntu, then windows. Dows has installed its bootloader and now i have lost grub, anyone know how to get it back?
[01:39] <MaxL> jujimufu, I have another computer in my basement connected through my network that has all my music on it. I want to mount it on to my computer.
[01:39] <andrej> And no, not man 1 printf, I want man 3 :)
[01:39] <soundray> Bassetts: don't do that. Follow the guide I pointed you to earlier
[01:39] <ych> MaxL, if its a windows computer it wont work
[01:39] <ych> if its a linux computer look at
[01:39] <ych> !nfs
[01:39] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[01:39] <MaxL> ych: So it has to be a linux computer?
[01:39] <Bassetts> soundray, it log in now, but i want it to run a script on the ssh account once logged in...
[01:39] <jujimufu> MaxL: you must manage to get these two PCs connected. If the other Pc is running windows, you must use samba.
[01:39] <ych> so it seems
[01:39] <ych> unless you install nfs on windows
[01:39] <`m0> hi
[01:39] <Melectaus--> I installed ubuntu, then windows. Dows has installed its bootloader and now i have lost grub, anyone know how to get it back?? please somone help
[01:39] <jujimufu> ych: not necessary. I've managed to share files with windows
[01:39] <MaxL> jujimufu: Where can I get Samba
[01:39] <ych> google for it
[01:39] <ych> !samba
[01:39] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:39] <`m0> is it a good idea to download drivers from INTEL?
[01:39] <soundray> Bassetts: look down on the page to the section "Single-purpose keys"
[01:39] <jujimufu> MaxL: I think it's already installed, isn't it?
[01:40] <ych> yes, you can share files with windows
[01:40] <ych> but you cant play them with amarok
[01:40] <MaxL> jujimufu: I'm pretty sure o-o;
[01:40] <wabz> changing the subpixel order in the font rendering details drastically changes font spacing too?@!??
[01:40] <soundray> Bassetts: that way you save all the logging in and out
[01:40] <ych> however MaxL, if you just want to play the files
[01:40] <`m0> Or does the latest Build have the latest drivers?
[01:40] <ych> try opening them with totem
[01:40] <ych> that works over samba
[01:40] <jujimufu> MaxL: do you know the IP of the other PC?
[01:41] <soundray> Bassetts: you could of course just do 'ssh user@remotehost scriptname', but then you need passwords or general-purpose keys
[01:41] <MaxL> jujimufu: yeah I know it I can acsess the files with totem.
[01:41] <jujimufu> MaxL: if you can access them, then why can't you play them?
[01:41] <mcphail> Bassetts: i'm fairly sure you can run a one time command with: ssh user@host 'whatever_your_command_is'
[01:41] <Melectaus--> Can somone please help me???
[01:41] <ych> it seems to have something to do with the players using different libraries to access the files, but in amarok a file location has to begin with /
[01:42] <soundray> Melectaus--: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:42] <wabz> this is ridiculous - my fonts look _really_ bad - am i the only one with this issue?
[01:42] <Melectaus--> thanks
[01:42] <ych> i spent a week trying to do that with a remote windows machine
[01:42] <MaxL> jujumufu: I don't know Amarok just won't play them.
[01:42] <ych> and couldnt find a way to make it work
[01:42] <basbryan> my synaptic won't start.  i get the message: "synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" after upgrading packages.  is anyone else having this problem after updating today?
[01:42] <MaxL> jujumufu: I cannot find the network when I browse either.
[01:42] <ych> MaxL, i tried it for over a week, afaik it wont work
[01:42] <ych> unless you install nfs on the windows comp
[01:43] <ych> I, instead installed linux on the windows comp
[01:43] <ych> problem solved
[01:43] <MaxL> HAha
[01:43] <jujimufu> ych: it could also be done with installing  WinSCP
[01:43] <jujimufu> ych: and running ssh from linux
[01:43] <jujimufu> no?
[01:43] <MaxL> ych: The computer is running windows 98 it's like a pentium 2.
[01:43] <wabz> http://www.whatsbeef.net/wabz/ubuntufonts.jpg <-- this is about the best i can make them look. Note; in firefox, those really bold topics are not supposed to be really bold like that
[01:43] <wabz> sorry - http://www.whatsbeef.net/wabz/ubuntufonts.png
[01:43] <Phantom> when i go into adept, i get an error that i can only use read only mode because another program is using the packging system database.  how should i fix this?
[01:44] <andrej> which package contains the man-pages for the C standard library?  It doesn't seem to be part of any of the gcc/g++ packages.
[01:44] <Apeiron> heya all - i heard its a known issue that the graphical installer from ubuntu is crashing previous installed windows installations - is there any fix or workaround for this?
[01:44] <k0shi> Hi, can anyone help me with linux-wlan-ng drivers?
[01:45] <jujimufu> gtg
[01:45] <jujimufu> byes :d
[01:45] <ych> well, the one i was using is a duron
[01:45] <ych> i have the server version of ubuntu
[01:45] <Seveas> andrej, manpages-dev
[01:45] <ych> strictly command promt
[01:45] <ych> works great for a fileserver
[01:45] <soundray> andrej: try manpages-dev
[01:45] <andrej> Thanks guys
[01:45] <andrej> What an odd split :}
[01:45] <MaxL> ych: Yeah but then if I have windows computers won't they not be able to acsess the files?
[01:46] <wabz> can someone go to font preferences,change it from say, best contrast to subpixel smoothing and let me know if the font spacing changes HEAPS?
[01:46] <andrej> Hmm ...
[01:46] <soundray> andrej: I think it's because in principle the standard library can be used with other compilers (but I'm no expert)
[01:46] <andrej> installed, done man -k sprintf, still no number 3
[01:46] <k0shi> Does anyone know about Prism2 wifi cards and how to install the proper drivers for them?
[01:47] <deltab> andrej: you don't need manpages just to compile something
[01:47] <tyler_d> anyone know where the dpi is in gimp?
[01:47] <wabz> hi guys, a recent update has completely screwed up my fonts - http://www.whatsbeef.net/wabz/ubuntufonts.png <-- this is about the best i can make them look. Note; in firefox, those really bold topics are not supposed to be really bold like that
[01:47] <andrej> I know that - but I need them to look up the syntac for some C functions
[01:47] <andrej> Don't know those by heart
[01:48] <Miek> I'm having some trouble running games, i get the error "Could not initialize SDL Video subsystem: No I/O port permissions." or something similar. Can anyone help?
[01:48] <ych> MaxL, thats what samba is for
[01:48] <ych> emulates windows filesharing
[01:48] <ych> the win comps can access it fine
[01:48] <dibblego> how do you pass environment variables to rc scripts?
[01:48] <wabz> can anyone see what im typing? do i have to rejoin the chan?
[01:48] <ych> !dns
[01:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <ych> i see you wabz
[01:48] <andrej> *sigh*
[01:48] <l1tch> HY
[01:48] <wabz> okay, thanks
[01:49] <andrej> Any other suggestions than manpages-dev ?
[01:49] <Abzzolum> hello
[01:49] <wabz> so can anyone help me with my 'recent-update-screwed-my-fonts' problem?
[01:49] <soundray> andrej: it's definitely in manpages-dev -- works here (check dpkg -L manpages-dev | grep sprintf)
[01:49] <l1tch> how can i install ubuntu without X and live cd and other bullshit
[01:49] <Abzzolum> what ahhpend to your fonts?
[01:49] <mcphail> wabz: blame the maintainer of the compiz repo
[01:49] <wabz> they look completely screwed
[01:50] <wabz> oh okay
[01:50] <soundray> l1tch: please watch your language, and read the help screens on the first prompt of the install CD
[01:50] <wabz> though i dont use compiz
[01:50] <mcphail> wabz: i can help you fix them
[01:50] <andrej> That's weird.
[01:50] <wabz> i guess they screwed up some fonts for me
[01:50] <Melectaus--> is there anywat to get the grub bootloader and burn it as an image to a disc and install it?
[01:50] <wabz> mcphail: go for it ;)
[01:50] <soundray> l1tch: especially the bit that mentions a server install
[01:50] <l1tch> soundray i did, nothing serious or useful
[01:50] <mcphail> wabz: they have updated things like libfreetype6, which is the crux of the problem
[01:50] <soundray> l1tch: server install
[01:50] <Melectaus--> does anyone know if there is anyway to get the grub bootloader and burn it as an image to a disc and install it?
[01:51] <mcphail> wabz: first of all, go into /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the compiz or berrorkid repo
[01:51] <andrej> After the apt-get install manpages-dev, do I need to run something special to get them when I use man -k ?
[01:51] <wabz> mcphail: yup done
[01:51] <andrej> They DO show with the dpkg command
[01:52] <wabz> done an update too
[01:52] <l1tch> it is so hot
[01:52] <soundray> Melectaus--: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Making-a-GRUB-bootable-CD_002dROM.html
[01:52] <mcphail> wabz: now type "sudo aptitude install libfreetype2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2"
[01:52] <wabz> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "libfreetype2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2"
[01:52] <mcphail> wabz: oops
[01:52] <wabz> ;)
[01:52] <mcphail> wabz: now type "sudo aptitude install libfreetype=2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2"
[01:52] <k0shi> I installed my senao WiFi card which is Prism2.5, it worked fine, but it got detected as a Hermes card with orinoco drivers, so I blacklisted the orinoco_cs drivers, now it loads as a Prism2 with HostAP drivers, im trying to figure out how to get it to laod with linux-wlan-ng drivers as a prism2.5, anyone have any ideas?
[01:52] <wabz> are you sure it's a good idea to specify an actual version there?
[01:53] <tomasz27> where in Ubuntu can I check my graphics card properties?
[01:53] <soundray> andrej: I've no idea what -k does, but why don't you do man 3 sprintfs
[01:53] <mcphail> wabz: yes. you need to downgrade
[01:53] <geppy> If I boot normally, GDM freezes after about a second.  However, booting in recovery mode and launching GDM from the console doesn't cause a freeze.  I have an Athlon X2, and this behavior is true with both -386 and -686 kernels.
[01:53] <andrej> man -k = apropos
[01:53] <andrej> just less to type
[01:53] <mcphail> wabz: this is the _official_ version
[01:53] <Kyja> why is gnome baker the only dvd cd +_wr utility :( this is sad. it is no longer launchable and I can not find alternitaves :(
[01:54] <Ropechoborra> How can i modify file permission in a fat32 ??
[01:54] <andrej> Ropechoborra : you can't
[01:54] <wabz> yes - but if i install that specific version, when there are updates it will then update properly?
[01:54] <kitche> Ropechoborra chmod
[01:54] <mcphail> wabz: aptitude will complain and ak you if you want to keep the old version. Select "no"
[01:54] <andrej> you can modify the mount-options, though
[01:54] <soundray> !burn >Kyja
[01:54] <Ropechoborra> kitche dont letme
[01:54] <mcphail> wabz: you will be upgraded as the offical repos upgrade
[01:54] <k0shi> I installed my senao WiFi card which is Prism2.5, it worked fine, but it got detected as a Hermes card with orinoco drivers, so I blacklisted the orinoco_cs drivers, now it loads as a Prism2 with HostAP drivers, im trying to figure out how to get it to load with linux-wlan-ng drivers as a prism2.5, anyone have any ideas?
[01:54] <Kyja> oh goodness thank you
[01:54] <andrej> Ropechoborra that's because you can't
[01:54] <wabz> mcphail: im getting Couldn't find package "libfreetype".
[01:54] <andrej> FAT knows nothing of ownerships and permissions
[01:54] <techolous> umm, how do i bind a directory on a ntfs file system, and set the owner?
[01:54] <Ropechoborra> andrej so... if i want to delete a file... i cant??? :S
[01:54] <andrej> look at /etc/stab
[01:55] <mcphail> wabz: aargh
[01:55] <techolous> "mount --bind "/media/hda1/documents and settings/WINUSER/my documents/my music" /mnt/music/USER -O uid=USER" doesn't set the permision
[01:55] <andrej> change the mount options, namely umask
[01:55] <mcphail> wabz: now type "sudo aptitude install libfreetype6=2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2"
[01:55] <mcphail> wabz: (it's getting late here...)
[01:55] <andrej> Maybe also uid and gid
[01:55] <soundray> andrej: have you found your manpage now or not?
[01:55] <Ropechoborra> andrej i got /dev/hda2       /media/hda2 vfat umask=0000 0 0 and i want the user 'rope' can modify it
[01:55] <andrej> soundray I did
[01:55] <andrej> But I still want to know why apropos isn't working
[01:55] <RudyValencia> I can't remember the procedure for upgrading Ubuntu breezy to dapper...
[01:56] <neviedais> I know this is not the right place where to ask this, but could someone tell me where to get a CHM decompiler?
[01:56] <Melectaus--> hmmm... is it possible to make the grub iso on windows? as thats what im having to use atm
[01:56] <andrej> Ropechoborra add uid=<ropes numeric ID>
[01:56] <wabz> crazy compiz cowboys
[01:56] <mcphail> wabz: yup
[01:56] <Ropechoborra> andrej how do i know the numeric ID ?
[01:56] <RudyValencia> neviedais: http://www.google.com/search?q=CHM+decompiler
[01:56] <andrej> Type id or look it up in /etc/passwd
[01:57] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[01:57] <soundray> Melectaus--: I think you can download a ready .iso somewhere, but I can't remember where, sry
[01:57] <k0shi> I installed my senao WiFi card which is Prism2.5, it worked fine, but it got detected as a Hermes card with orinoco drivers, so I blacklisted the orinoco_cs drivers, now it loads as a Prism2 with HostAP drivers, im trying to figure out how to get it to laod with linux-wlan-ng drivers as a prism2.5, anyone have any ideas?
[01:57] <mcphail> wabz: how are tou getting on?
[01:57] <wabz> yep, all fonts fixed
[01:57] <wabz> thanks heaps
[01:57] <Ropechoborra> Ok, now it should be like this?? : /dev/hda2       /media/hda2 vfat umask=0000 uid=1000 0 0  ??
[01:57] <NickGarvey> k0shi: have you read the wiki page on wireless?
[01:57] <MaxL> How do I update my repositories?
[01:58] <l1tch> how can i choose text install i dont find this in the boot menu
[01:58] <l1tch> http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/HOWTO:_Install_Ubuntu#Choose_Installation_Method
[01:58] <l1tch> it is not the same
[01:58] <Ropechoborra> MaxL sudo apt-get update
[01:58] <k0shi> NickGarvey: I have read allll over the place
[01:58] <Melectaus--> thats ok soundray, cheers
[01:58] <soundray> k0shi: repeating won't help at this frequency. Try later, also try rephrasing
[01:58] <k0shi> haha
[01:58] <k0shi> IT was worth a shot
[01:58] <NickGarvey> k0shi: how about ndiswrapper?
[01:58] <MaxL> thanks rope
[01:58] <mcphail> wabz: don't uncomment the compiz repo until they get their act sorted out
[01:58] <MaxL> Ropechoborra, **
[01:58] <andrej> Ropechoborra the umask and uid need to be comma-separated
[01:58] <k0shi> Im trying to find a driver that will allow me to inject
[01:59] <Ych> !automatix
[01:59] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[01:59] <wabz> indeed. i'll give them 6 months maybe. last time i tried half the keys on my keyboard were not mapped properly, and that problem was around since year dot
[01:59] <l1tch> Text mode install mode is available for servers without great graphics or if you have a problem in graphic mode, or have less than 192MB memory. << how?
[01:59] <Ropechoborra> andrej you mean like this? umask,uid=0000,1000
[01:59] <k0shi> This may not be the best place to discuss it, but im trying to get AIREPLAY working correctly
[01:59] <wabz> im yet to find a use for transparency that isnt 'annoy the hell out of me' too
[01:59] <andrej> umask=0000,uid=1000 ... close enough, though ;}
[02:00] <mcphail> wabz: i like my windows semi-transparent when being dragged
[02:00] <Ropechoborra> lol ty
[02:00] <Ropechoborra> andrej the only whay to see changes is rebooting ?
[02:00] <shiv> I need some help with converting old sql data files to new one
[02:00] <shiv> I found this how to here http://www.sqlite.org/version3.html
[02:00] <shiv> but am not able to follow exactly. I am a noob please help
[02:00] <andrej> how do I make ubunut update the apropos database with "normal" ubuntu means?
[02:00] <k0shi> Im pretty much trying to figure out how you configure a PCMCIA device with specific driver as apposed to the ones Unbuntu supplys for it
[02:00] <andrej> nope - umount/mount will do
[02:01] <RudyValencia> Is gksudo "update-manager -d" the proper way to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[02:01] <jrib> RudyValencia: no, that gives you the latest development version
[02:01] <jrib> !upgrade
[02:01] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[02:02] <RudyValencia> Ah, that would be breezy -> edgy...
[02:02] <andrej> The upgrade completely screwed my machine up - had to reinstall from scratch :/
[02:02] <nopcode> hey
[02:02] <nopcode> about upgrading
[02:02] <nopcode> it doesnt work here
[02:03] <nopcode> upgrading to breezy works, after upgrading to dapper the machine doesnt boot anymore...
[02:03] <andrej> heh
[02:03] <nopcode> any ideas?
[02:03] <andrej> for me ONLY networking and X were fubared
[02:04] <nopcode> well it couldve been networking
[02:04] <RudyValencia> I should probably get the ISO and put it onto a CD
[02:04] <nopcode> for all i know
[02:04] <nopcode> all i know the machine didnt ping or react to ssh anymore
[02:04] <nopcode> i'm thinking about putting debian on it
[02:04] <NickGarvey> nopcode: no ping = no internet
[02:05] <nopcode> it doesnt have that stupid concept of "releases"
[02:05] <NickGarvey> s/internet/networking/
[02:05] <`m0> hi, is it possible for the LED lights on the keyboard to work accordingly?
[02:05] <soundray> nopcode: of course Debian has releases
[02:05] <`m0> My keyboard is a Compaq Laptop
[02:05] <andrej> How do I update the apropos database in ubuntu?
[02:06] <nopcode> soundray: well but as a user i don't see anything about that
[02:06] <nopcode> anyways
[02:06] <nopcode> any idea why dapper wouldn't work?
[02:07] <andrej> there's no friggin makewhatis :/
[02:07] <soundray> nopcode: what? You don't see when potato, sarge etc. get released?
[02:07] <RudyValencia> Is dapper available by bittorrent?
[02:07] <nopcode> soundray: i've used debian for years without ever knowing what potato, sarge etc even _is_
[02:07] <nopcode> soundray: just dist-upgrade and i was on the cutting edge
[02:07] <looktj> nopcode: there is a ubuntu christian edition
[02:08] <nopcode> looktj: what? ;)
[02:08] <unkn0wn2u> nopcode, do you know what your talking about
[02:08] <nopcode> unkn0wn2u: i just hate having to care about releases
[02:08] <excitatory> if one wanted to use the fglrx driver..is it best to use the one in the ubuntu repos, or the ati.com driver?  (the wiki only points out the hibernation feature of the ati.com driver..but are there more reasons to use this driver?)
[02:08] <nopcode> i just want cutting edge each time i do a dist-upgrade
[02:08] <haasteem> erUSUL: i am still working on the problem i had earlier on...
[02:09] <soundray> nopcode: then do update-manager -d
[02:09] <phobik> I have a problem with azerus and bittorrent and just a few other programs, the fonts in them show up as blocks, like unreadable, anyone know how I can fix that?
[02:09] <unkn0wn2u> nopcode, debian is never cutting edge
[02:09] <ben__> hey can someone help me with something in ubuntu?
[02:09] <nopcode> soundray: hm? does that work with any base version?
[02:09] <soundray> nopcode, yes
[02:09] <nopcode> soundray: i've just requested a reinstall of my server
[02:09] <nopcode> it'll be 5.06 again
[02:09] <soundray> nopcode: well, you have to have update-manager installed
[02:09] <ben__> hey, can someone help me with something in ubuntu?
[02:10] <soundray> !ask
[02:10] <excitatory> ben__: just ask, please don't ask to ask.
[02:10] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:10] <ogionnj> I just upgraded to dapper and now X doesn't work.  Says "No Input driver matching `mouse'".  Can someone give me some help diagnosing and fixing?
[02:10] <nopcode> soundray: that brings me up-to-date with.. unstable?
[02:10] <auxi> excitatory, haha
[02:10] <nopcode> soundray: will that change the installed kernel image?
[02:10] <sergiol> i did reboot and this gs command didnt annoyed me any more
[02:10] <sergiol> thanks
[02:10] <soundray> nopcode: yes
[02:10] <kitche> ogionngj: you probably have to install the mouse driver
[02:10] <tyler_d> editting flash, preferably a plugin for nvu???
[02:10] <phobik> also anyone have a problem with beep media player distored so you cant see the default skin or controls/
[02:11] <nopcode> soundray: hmm.. but why can't i use dist-upgrade for that?
[02:11] <ogionnj> why wasn't it installed?
[02:11] <nopcode> why does it have to be an extra program?
[02:11] <ogionnj> Which package?
[02:11] <ben__> well i installed wine and got steam working great and everything on my computer then i reinstalled ubuntu and tried to do the same thing and steam worked except now when i start counter-strike it crashes my x (i think im saying that right) and goes to the command line
[02:11] <ogionnj> It's just a ps2 mouse.  Used to work under breezy
[02:11] <haasteem> sethk: are you there?
[02:11] <excitatory> tyler_d: it doesn't quite work that way..  flash is a proprietary technology that is only available on mac and windows platforms.. and the application required to make and edit flash is quite expensive.
[02:12] <tyler_d> excitatory: I know, I own the macromedia developement pack for windows...
[02:12] <tyler_d> excitatory: was hoping there may be a dirty way to do it.... have flash buttons installed in my page, would like to update the links
[02:13] <jman8888> How can i upgrade From 5.10 - 6.06 ?
[02:13] <excitatory> tyler_d: it might be possible to run it via wine or codeweavers.. but no nvu plugin.
[02:13] <Ych> !nfs
[02:13] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[02:13] <soundray> !upgrade >jman8888
[02:13] <nopcode> tyler_d: if its just strings you can probably do it the dirty way
[02:13] <tyler_d> excitatory: I will give it a shot with wine for starters... ty
[02:13] <excitatory> tyler_d: or you could run windows in virtualisation, and avoid a dual boot.. but probably, i would just fix it from windows.
[02:14] <tyler_d> nopcode: nope, its actually programmed
[02:14] <nopcode> programmed?
[02:14] <nopcode> as in?
[02:14] <jman8888> soundray, Thanks. I couldnt find it. Searched the wrong domain...
[02:15] <excitatory> ben__: my guess is that you didn't install your 3d accelerated video drivers when you reinstalled ubuntu.
[02:15] <nopcode> tyler_d: what do you mean?
[02:15] <excitatory> !upgrade
[02:15] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[02:16] <tyler_d> nopcode: teh latest macromedia dreamweaver allows you add flash from within
[02:16] <excitatory> jman8888: ^^
[02:16] <nopcode> tyler_d: so?
[02:16] <tyler_d> nopcode: making the code look wonderfully messed up
[02:16] <nopcode> you shouldnt be using flash
[02:17] <phargle> flesh
[02:17] <nopcode> it makes pages unviewable for many
[02:18] <acad> why doesn't fdisk -l show me my internal hard drive? it shows me a connected externel hard drive.
[02:18] <dibblego> lots of myths floating about today
[02:18] <rbond> Question: Has anyone ever heard of ALSA using a lot of CPU resources. I have attempted to do a Google and Ubuntu Forums search and have not yielded any results. From troubleshooting it looks like it is ALSA as I have had video synchronization problems and high CPU usage problems until I attempted an OSS plugin
[02:18] <rbond> Question: Has anyone ever heard of ALSA using a lot of CPU resources. I have attempted to do a Google and Ubuntu Forums search and have not yielded any results. From troubleshooting it looks like it is ALSA as I have had video synchronization problems and high CPU usage problems until I attempted an OSS plugin
[02:18] <excitatory> rbond: we see it..
[02:18] <excitatory> dibblego: what do you mean?
[02:18] <rbond> oh sorry it looks like it cut off
[02:18] <rbond> when I posted the first time
[02:19] <HeathenDan> is it easy to uninstall xfce when i decide to go back to gnome in ubuntu?
[02:19] <phargle> its ok, it takes 4-5 tries usually
[02:19] <jrib> HeathenDan: if you use aptitude to install xubuntu-desktop, it is
[02:19] <HeathenDan> i see
[02:20] <jessica_> hey
[02:20] <jessica_> how do i get 32 bit color out of the nvidia driver?
[02:20] <krizzer> anyone kno of a good tutorial on installing xgl and compiz
[02:20] <HeathenDan> it uninstalls unneeded dependencies too?
[02:20] <tom12519> Does anybody know how I can tunnel my current X session over VNC?
[02:20] <jrib> HeathenDan: yep
[02:20] <excitatory> HeathenDan: yes, always use aptitude.. it has package tracking.. same commands at apt-get too.. quite easy and handy.
[02:21] <excitatory> HeathenDan: also, installing that does not remove gnome.. you can choose which environment when you log in..
[02:21] <HeathenDan> darn, i've always used synaptic/apt-get
[02:21] <jessica_> anyone?
[02:21] <gmitchel> guys, im having trouble keeping my wireless network automatically connected, any ideas?
[02:21] <kitche> gmitchel: what chipset?
[02:21] <excitatory> HeathenDan: well, they work, quite well actually..you're not doing anything wrong by using those.. but there are certain advantages of aptitude.
[02:21] <BlueEagle> jessica_: add an option for that in the screen section of your xorg.conf and set defaultdepth to 32.
[02:21] <gmitchel> it's a broadcom 4308
[02:22] <gmitchel> drivers work great
[02:22] <jessica_> BlueEagle, it then says it's not supported.
[02:22] <gmitchel> i just have to disable then enable everytime to get it to reconnect to the network
[02:22] <tyler_d> jessica: install the binary drivers
[02:22] <kitche> gmitchel: there is a thing with broadcom 43xx it drops connections every once in a while
[02:22] <jrib> jessica_: 24bit is equivalent to the 32bit in windows.  I don't remember why, but I remember reading this somewhere.  Some research may help
[02:22] <jessica_> tyler_d, which package?
[02:22] <kitche> I haven't had trouble with the driver in the linux kernel yet though
[02:23] <gmitchel> i've had the same wireless card work on a diff machine in kubuntu and never drop
[02:23] <tyler_d> jessica: which radeon do you have?
[02:23] <BlueEagle> jessica_: Ahh. Well then perhaps it's not supported then. :)
[02:23] <ben__> excitatory, no i did install my video drivers
[02:23] <jessica_> tyler_d, I have a NVIDIA card.
[02:23] <HeathenDan> they should get a gui frontend for aptitude... otherwise synaptic will always tempt me
[02:23] <tyler_d> jessica: which one though?
[02:24] <jessica_> tyler_d, it's a geforce 4 mx series
[02:24] <gmitchel> plus it's not an easy reconnect... i usually have to disable eth1, then reenable it
[02:24] <ben__> excitatory, i have a 945gm intergrated intel card and reinstalled 915resolution and changed the driver on my xorg.conf to i810, just as i did with the last install
[02:24] <natural20> When I start Ubuntu, server X fails to load, presumably because of NVIDIA drivers.  I get this error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLCore.so    UserModule: "GLCore"     Failed to load module "GLCore" (loader failed, 7)
[02:25] <kitche> ben__: well soon you can use the i915 drivers
[02:25] <excitatory> ben__: yikes.. i hope you don't expect great gfx from that integrated..
[02:25] <ben__> excitatory, i know i dont
[02:25] <ben__> excitatory, but it can run counter-strike 1.6
[02:25] <tyler_d> Jessica: this may be of some help, understand that I am still new, and just got my machine up and running... radeon 9600 here... http://www.tjansen.de/xfree-features/
[02:25] <excitatory> well..honestly.. i'm not sure.  that was just a quick guess. this isn't my are of expertise.
[02:25] <BlueEagle> jessica_: 24 bit is 1.7 million colours. I think you'll need an extremely good monitor to render any finer resolution anyways. (ie. you would in most cases never see the difference between 1.6M colors and 429M colors.
[02:25] <Phantom> i'm trying to install an hp deskjet 930c over samba.  however, after selecting the printer make and model, i get an error that the driver cannot be found.  any idea of where/how to install it, or if that isn't the problem, how to get it to work?
[02:26] <jessica_> BlueEagle, I have done this before
[02:26] <acad> i got this error, any suggestions? ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ sudo grub-install /dev/hda2
[02:26] <acad> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[02:26] <jessica_> SecondLife won't run under 24 bit.
[02:26] <aaronf0> does ubuntu have a text mode install?
[02:26] <BlueEagle> jessica_: Were you able to see the difference?
[02:26] <fredyqa1> Hello?
[02:26] <nopcode> ehrm
[02:26] <nopcode> 32 bit is just padded 24 bit...
[02:26] <jessica_> BlueEagle, does it matter? You're not listening to me
[02:26] <jessica_> I need 32 bit to get SL to run
[02:26] <judicata> Anyone have any experience with iTunes in Crossover? It have it working on my SuSe laptop, but not on Ubuntu.  It installs and opens just fine, and pulls up the music store, but I can't sign in to my account.
[02:27] <BlueEagle> jessica_: Does it matter? You're not going to notice any difference anyways. :)
[02:27] <fredyqa1> jessica_
[02:27] <ben__> excitatory, any ideas?
[02:27] <jessica_> BlueEagle, YES IT MATTERS-- the software _WILL NOT RUN_ in 24 bit mode
[02:27] <StriderZ> what is ubuntu's default filemanager?
[02:27] <ben__> excitatory, or any log file i could look for an error?
[02:27] <phargle> jessica_: no it will
[02:27] <HeathenDan> nautilus
[02:27] <jrib> StriderZ: nautilus
[02:28] <BlueEagle> jessica_: Pardon me for saying so but that seems to be an issue with the software. (which package is the unwilling one btw?)
[02:28] <ben__> help
[02:28] <Bassetts> my sound does not work in totem-xine
[02:28] <StriderZ> jrib: I'm sorry, I meant window-manager
[02:28] <jessica_> oh for shit's sake
[02:28] <jessica_> I'll just pay for commercial support
[02:28] <mopflite> I was quite surprised at how easy it is to burn an .iso using nautilus
[02:28] <jessica_> at least then I'll be listened to
[02:28] <jrib> StriderZ: metacity for gnome
[02:28] <kitche> jessica__: your using the nvidia driver? or the open source
[02:28] <ben__> can anyone help me with this?: i installed wine and got steam working great and everything on my computer then i reinstalled ubuntu and tried to do the same thing and steam worked except now when i start counter-strike it crashes my x (i think im saying that right) and goes to the command line
[02:28] <phargle> jessica_: did you say something?
[02:28] <kitche> since the open source drivers do not support 24bit jessica__
[02:29] <kitche> opps 32bit
[02:29] <StriderZ> jrib: thanks
[02:29] <jessica_> i'm not using the bloody opensource drivers.
[02:29] <BlueEagle> ben__: Do you get anything useful in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[02:29] <jessica_> I found the package for 'nvidia'
[02:29] <jessica_> nvidia != nv
[02:29] <fredyqa1> Hello? can anyone help me?
[02:29] <phargle> no way
[02:29] <ben__> BlueEagle, i havent checked that becuz i wasnt sure were the logfile was but ill check it now
[02:29] <DBO> jessica_, if you want to join in #ubuntu-xgl we have LOTS of familiarity with driver issues there
[02:29] <StriderZ> jessica_: I hade a helluva time getting my nvidia card to work...I think I ended up downloading the actual nvidia linux drivers from their site
[02:29] <jrib> fredyqa1: just ask your question, and then we can try
[02:30] <mopflite> aaronf0: regarding text install, if you download the alternate cd for your chosen platform, that has a textual installer
[02:30] <natural20> When I start Ubuntu, server X fails to load.  I get this error: /usr/lib/xorg/moduels/extensions/libGLCore.so  UnloadModule: "GLCore"   Failed to load module "GLCore" (loader failed, 7)
[02:31] <nopcode> DBO: could you join #foobar? i have a question
[02:31] <Bassetts> can someone help me, sound does not work in totem-xine
[02:31] <DBO> nopcode, im there
[02:31] <kitche> boy I bet jessica_ didn't even try the nvidia drivers from their site
[02:31] <rbond> Question: Has anyone ever heard of ALSA using a lot of CPU resources. I have attempted to do a Google and Ubuntu Forums search and have not yielded any results. From troubleshooting it looks like it is ALSA as I have had video synchronization problems and high CPU usage problems until I attempted an OSS plugin
[02:32] <natural20> kitche: i think nvidia drivers is what i need too, but i don't know how to get at them:  server X won't load
[02:32] <nopcode> DBO: hm i dont see you
[02:32] <Melectaus--> does anyone know where i can get a grub.iso ?
[02:32] <kitche> natural20: probably you have to get the linkt hen wget it
[02:33] <PingunZ> hey, whats the package name of iwlib ?
[02:33] <kitche> I don't trust packages for drivers unless it's liek Xorg open source
[02:33] <aaronf0> so does or does not ubuntu have a text installer?
[02:33] <PingunZ> sure, alternate install cd
[02:33] <aaronf0> the hell if im downloading another one
[02:34] <natural20> kitche: can you explain wget?
[02:34] <PingunZ> its like the debian install aaronf0
[02:34] <aaronf0> cant you just pass it a --install text option?
[02:34] <aaronf0> PingunZ: i dont use deb
[02:34] <kitche> natural20: wget is a download tool
[02:34] <ajax4> I need some help guys. A file on my system called libvte.so.4 got hosed. How can I get it back?
[02:34] <aaronf0> PingunZ: i use gentoo
[02:34] <PingunZ> cool
[02:34] <ben__> BlueEagle, in the xorg logfile the last line says "ProcXCloseDevice to close or not ?" im not sure what that means tho
[02:34] <aaronf0> PingunZ: anyway, can you recomend a distro for a laptop too old to run ubuntu?
[02:34] <CocaCola77> Is ubuntu team thinking of implenting click and mount tools? Like Beos had 10 years ago?
[02:34] <PingunZ> aaronf0, the install of ubuntu is 100 times easier
[02:35] <aaronf0> PingunZ: not if you cant reach the install point
[02:35] <natural20> kitche: so the command line for using it would be...
[02:35] <jrib> ajax4: that's a result of using unsupported compiz repos.  Here's a thread with the fix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238668
[02:35] <aaronf0> PingunZ: its about 20 minutes to boot the damned thing
[02:35] <kitche> natural20: wget
[02:35] <ajax4> jrib: Thanks!
[02:35] <PingunZ> aaronf0, it takes me 3
[02:35] <fredyqa1> my comter shut down does not shut down the power when its done and I have to manually shut it off. Is that normal?
[02:35] <kitche> natural20 wget <url>
[02:35] <natural20> kitche: where and how do i type the link though
[02:35] <PingunZ> aaronf0, you can try the alternate install cd, its less visual
[02:35] <natural20> kitche: thanks :)
[02:35] <aaronf0> PingunZ: what can you recomend for something with 64 megs of ram, and cant boot ubuntu?
[02:35] <Bassetts> anyone? totem-xine has no sound
[02:35] <fredyqa1> sorry """computer"""
[02:36] <PingunZ> aaronf0, xubuntu, DSL, puppylinux
[02:36] <rbond> aaronf0: have you tried Ubuntu Alternate
[02:36] <aaronf0> probably ending up with puppy or dsl
[02:36] <CocaCola77> Why should a person in this day and age need to edit a text file like autoexec.bat, just to mount freeking fat32, ntfs drive.
[02:36] <aaronf0> rbond: how big is the iso?
[02:36] <Melectaus--> does anyone know where i could get a grub iso image?
[02:36] <Ych> PingunZ, damn small linux
[02:36] <jrib> !grub > Melectaus--
[02:36] <Ych> ooops
[02:36] <Ych> i mean
[02:37] <Ych> aaron
[02:37] <jrib> Melectaus--: (I'm not sure if that is what you want, but it talks about a super grub disk)
[02:37] <fredyqa1> Hello?????????????
[02:37] <TheGame> sup
[02:37] <baconbacon> Coca, why would someone just edit a text file to mount a stupid reiserfs, ext drive, oh wait you cant
[02:37] <rbond> aaronf0: 696mb
[02:37] <CocaCola77> fredyqa1, hi
[02:37] <rbond> aaronf0: I am going to try it with my old laptop
[02:38] <Melectaus--> im on windows though
[02:38] <Melectaus--> i cant access ubuntu
[02:38] <fredyqa1> Hi I have a problem. my computer shut down does not shut down the power when its done and I have to manually shut it off. Is that normal?
[02:38] <baconbacon> fredyqa1: do you have a toshiba laptop
 have you tried using the liveCD?
[02:38] <aaronf0> rbond: thats too big
[02:38] <CocaCola77> baconbacon, I can, but because I just feel like you want me to pass some iq test, and I just want to use the damn computer.
[02:39] <fsdfdsfsd> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[02:39] <Ych> i'm not sure how, but maybe something could be done with that
[02:39] <ajax4> fredyqa1: Its normal if you have an older AT style motherboard (not ATX)
[02:39] <Ych> that damn peer going around resetting connections again!!
[02:39] <baconbacon> CocaCola77: i agree it could be easier, but anyway, offtopic
[02:39] <Bassetts> thats that dcc?
[02:39] <Melectaus--> Yvh: i tried but i have  5.04, the instructions that are avaiable dont work with it
[02:39] <Bassetts> *whats
[02:39] <CocaCola77> baconbacon, to rephrase, I want to use the damn computer, not pass geek test.
[02:39] <Ych> did you install win after linux?
[02:40] <Melectaus--> yes ych
[02:40] <Ych> i heard that that wouldnt work properly, so i just reformatted
[02:40] <Ych> only today that was in fact
[02:40] <Melectaus--> i have too much stuff on my hdd
[02:40] <Ych> almost got into the same fubar as you
[02:40] <Shoo-Shu> so. what do i use to dl music with???? since im guessing limewire isnt compatible with ubuntu
[02:40] <Melectaus--> cant risk loosing it
[02:40] <Ych> well
[02:40] <Bassetts> what was that DCC thing again?
[02:40] <nopcode> Shoo-Shu: rtorrent
[02:40] <nso> How do you open a rar file in ubuntu?
[02:40] <Shoo-Shu> o ok
[02:40] <Ych> if neccessary
[02:40] <dibblego> nso, apt-get install rar
[02:40] <Ych> do you have something to backup the files to?
[02:40] <Melectaus--> yea?
[02:40] <dibblego> nso, apt-get install unrar even
[02:41] <Ych> like a remote machine?
[02:41] <kitche> dibblego: rar only rars files
[02:41] <Melectaus--> i have a 300gig external hdd
[02:41] <ajax4> dibblego: don't forget sudo first
[02:41] <Ych> or another hdd?
[02:41] <Ych> ok
[02:41] <Ych> because
[02:41] <baconbacon> Shoo-Shu: install java, use frostwire
[02:41] <Ych> you can access your linux partition from windows apparently
[02:41] <Shoo-Shu> o ok
[02:41] <Melectaus--> i cant boot in windows either
[02:42] <Ych> oooohhh
[02:42] <Melectaus--> atm my laptop doesnt have any bootloader
[02:42] <Ych> i thought you said you were in windows?
[02:42] <Melectaus--> i tried to install grub from a dodgey disc
[02:42] <Melectaus--> i am
[02:42] <Ych> but on a dif machine
[02:42] <Melectaus--> diffo machine though
[02:42] <Ych> ok
[02:42] <Ych> well
[02:42] <judicata> Anyone have any experience with iTunes in Crossover? It have it working on my SuSe laptop, but not on Ubuntu.  It installs and opens just fine, and pulls up the music store, but I can't sign in to my account.
[02:42] <Ych> thats a bit of a snafu
[02:42] <Hexidigital> how do i disable the nautilus desktop integration?
[02:42] <Melectaus--> is there any bootloader at all i can burn to disc or ought?
[02:43] <jrib> Hexidigital: it's an option in gconf-editor for nautilus
[02:43] <Hexidigital> jrib: thanks
[02:43] <Melectaus--> even the windows bootloader, so i can get all the stuff off of my ubuntu partition and save it to treformat
[02:43] <Ych> ummm
[02:43] <Ych> can you reinstall windows?
[02:43] <Melectaus--> well ill loose all the shiz i have there
[02:43] <Ych> or is there loadsa stuff on there also
[02:43] <jrib> Melectaus--: you can access your drives through the live cd
[02:43] <Melectaus--> yups
[02:43] <Ych> ok
[02:43] <Ych> you could use the livecd
[02:44] <Shoo-Shu> so does frostwire have alot of music like limewire?
[02:44] <Shoo-Shu> or is it shit?
[02:44] <Ych> damn jrib
[02:44] <Ych> beat me
[02:44] <jrib> Shoo-Shu: they use the same network
[02:44] <Melectaus--> jrib, i have 5.04, i cant see the local hdd thru the live cd
[02:44] <Shoo-Shu> ohhhhhhhhh
[02:44] <Ych> hmmm
[02:44] <Shoo-Shu> mad
[02:44] <Ych> ok i gotta reboot
[02:44] <Ych> brbrbrb
[02:44] <jrib> Melectaus--: can you go to system > administration > disks, and mount them?
[02:44] <TheGame> y is this channel not regged
[02:44] <judicata> Mel: have a copy of Knoppix lying around?
[02:45] <baconbacon> cant he just grub-install from the liveCD?
[02:45] <Melectaus--> ill try
[02:45] <Melectaus--> hold on
[02:45] <jrib> baconbacon: should be able to
[02:45] <baconbacon> maybe you need to apt-get grub first
[02:45] <jrib> that's your best option Melectaus-- , but you said the wiki instructions didn't work?
[02:46] <BlueEagle> jessica: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep 32
[02:46] <BlueEagle> jessica: You will see something like "(==) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (==) framebuffer bpp 32"
[02:46] <BlueEagle> bahh she left.
[02:46] <Melectaus--> jrib its like they are for a newer version
[02:46] <kitche> BlueEagle she left a long time ago
[02:47] <BlueEagle> kitche: That's what I get for researching peoples problems. They just don't have the patience. :)
[02:47] <ajax4> Anyone know a way to use apt to reinstall an app and reinstall all its dependencies?
[02:47] <Zer0ne> when you boot up the ubuntu cd, is there a way to make it boot from an already installed ubuntu system?
[02:47] <jrib> Melectaus--: I am pretty sure that they will work with the older disk as well
[02:49] <Melectaus--> i followed them to a t jrib. i didnt get anywhere
[02:50] <jrib> Melectaus--: were there any errors, or did everything just seem to work ok but without any results?
[02:51] <tyler_d> anyone here run mechwarrior?
[02:51] <Ych> !tubgirl
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tubgirl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <Ych> oooooop
[02:51] <Ych> s
[02:51] <Ych> !nfs
[02:51] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[02:51] <Ych> gosh, im too lazy to type out a tla
[02:51] <natural20> when trying to install the Nvidia linux drivers, i get this error: Unable to find the system utility "ld"; please make sure you have the package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed, then please check that 'ld' is in your PATH.    can someone interpret this for me, and instruct me on how to find out what it asks?
[02:51] <stopher> Hello!
[02:52] <timalot> ld is a linker
[02:52] <kitche> natural20: your missing a very important linux tool
[02:52] <a-priori> hey
[02:53] <natural20> kitche: what should i do?
[02:53] <kitche> naturla20: you might have to install the binutils package
[02:53] <timalot> !binutils
[02:53] <ubotu> binutils: The GNU assembler, linker and binary utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1cvs20060117-1ubuntu2.1 (dapper), package size 1373 kB, installed size 6848 kB
[02:53] <erUSUL> natural20: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:53] <BlueEagle> I've got some lag in the sound when playing video files. Is there anywhere I can adjust it?
[02:53] <BlueEagle> I'm using vlc media player.
[02:54] <ChaosAFS> i could use some help
[02:54] <Melectaus--> jrib, it didnt recognise the commands
[02:54] <BlueEagle> But I suspect it's a problem with ESD.
[02:54] <stopher> I just got a 4 processor (P3 all around xeon) and it has 4 SCSI HD's (6 available slots) and 1 OS Controller HD that is IDE.  Has CDRW etc etc etc.  It has Windows 2000 Server pre-loaded but I keep getting a STOP! error on it.  I went to install Ubuntu Server Text Install and it keeps freezing when the system goes to Partition Manager.  I think the server install is for one processor, but was told I could install the controller afte
[02:54] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: We really could use some more info about your problem if we're going to be able to give any help.
[02:55] <jrib> Melectaus--: which commands in particular?  By the way if someone else knows a bit about grub, Melectaus-- would really benefit from your help because I don't know much about it :)
[02:55] <ChaosAFS> i load up linux 6.06 to install it and it loads stuff for like 2 mins and then comes up with a DOS type thing.
[02:55] <timalot> hahha
[02:55] <ChaosAFS> what do i type in this?
[02:56] <BlueEagle> stopher: Your text was cut after ", but was told I could install the controller afte"
[02:56] <Overand> ChaosAFS: which CD did you download?  'alternate' or the 'Live CD'
[02:56] <Warbo> ChaosAFS: Does it come up with a blue screen saying that "X cannot load"?
[02:56] <ChaosAFS> live i believe
[02:56] <stopher> BlueEagle: ... but was told I could install the controller afterward.  Any Ideas on this?
[02:56] <Melectaus--> the ones that you use at the start of the live cd one
[02:56] <Zer0ne> i've got windows on my master, ubuntu on my slave.  is there a way to make the ubuntu cd boot up the installed system, so i could leave my mbr unchanged?
[02:56] <kitche> Zer0ne: you got a floppy drive?
[02:56] <viator> is there any office type apps that have a resume wizerd?
[02:56] <Zer0ne> ie:  put in the cd when i want to boot ubuntu
[02:56] <timalot> zerone why?
[02:57] <Zer0ne> sure dont
[02:57] <Warbo> Zer0ne: Not that I know of, but I know how to make a custom boot CD
[02:57] <stopher> viator: have you tried OpenOffice?
[02:57] <viator> even commercial
[02:57] <Melectaus--> jrib. the hdd comes up in the device manager. but how do i mount it?
[02:57] <viator> i have openoffice latest
[02:57] <stopher> oh...
[02:57] <Warbo> Zer0ne: Or even a floppy, which would probably be best
[02:57] <viator> and it doesnt have one
[02:57] <kitche> I used to know a way to daisychain linux to the windows boot loader
[02:57] <viator> ugh
[02:57] <gary[ubuntu] > zer0ne: I've done that with the ubuntu live dvd
[02:57] <kitche> so windows would eb the main mbr
[02:57] <viator> my wife wants it
[02:57] <Zer0ne> how?
[02:57] <a-priori> kitche: chainloader +1
[02:57] <a-priori> in grub
[02:57] <viator> word has the damn thing
[02:58] <verbose> kitche: you edit c:\boot.ini
[02:58] <stopher> copy/paste it lol
[02:58] <gary[ubuntu] > zer0ne: when the live dvd menu comes up you have an option to select which partition to boot off of
[02:58] <kitche> verbose: yep your right
[02:58] <ChaosAFS> so what do i type in the DOS thing
[02:58] <stopher> BlueEagle: Any ideas?
[02:58] <viator> i can download templates etc
[02:58] <kitche> a-priori: I didn't use grub back then it was lilo and lilo was a pain sometimes
[02:58] <Zer0ne> gary:  is that dvd-specific?
[02:58] <timalot> u can have grub on mbr and run windows.... why not have grub
[02:58] <gary[ubuntu] > zer0ne I'll brb. checking now
[02:58] <stopher> download them then... should work
[02:58] <viator> hell i even used wget to grab all the templates from ms servers
[02:58] <Zer0ne> because my boss would flip out ;/
[02:58] <a-priori> kitche: ah, okay
[02:58] <a-priori> never used lilo myself
[02:59] <Warbo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy
[02:59] <Zer0ne> because the "boot screen" doesnt look right
[02:59] <gary[ubuntu] > rebooting now to see what the option was
[02:59] <gary[ubuntu] > brb zer0ne
[02:59] <viator> she wants the damn wizard type thing
[02:59] <timalot> Zer0ne: make a dos boot disk and use loadlin
[02:59] <RudyValencia> hmm, ubuntu isn't too bad, once you change a couple little settings :)
[02:59] <BlueEagle> stopher: Nope. It would help to know which chipset your controller is using. Try running lspci (if you're in linux).
[02:59] <stopher> viator: Not sure if OpenOffice.org can help you with that one....
[02:59] <Warbo> timalot: What's wrong with GRUB?
[02:59] <ChaosAFS> so far ubuntu sucks
[02:59] <markrian> viator, you could try installing Word in wine
[02:59] <dan2> hi there
[02:59] <ChaosAFS> if this is all it is, it sucks
[02:59] <stopher> BlueEagle: I can't even get to the windows command prompts, so no, i can't do that either.
[02:59] <timalot> Warbo: loadlin is easier
[03:00] <viator> yeah i could
[03:00] <virogenesis> great ChaosAFS
[03:00] <Warbo> ChaosAFS: "All it is"? About 16000 software packages?
[03:00] <markrian> ChaosAFS, what more would you like?
[03:00] <viator> i threw away those pirated disks
[03:00] <viator> a while ago
[03:00] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: First things first. How did you install Ubuntu? Using the LiveCD or the alternate install CD?
[03:00] <stopher> BlueEagle: should BIOS boot-up display that?
[03:00] <ChaosAFS> i would like a GUI is what i would like
[03:00] <viator> lol
[03:00] <ChaosAFS> i hate DOS
[03:00] <dan2> I adjusted the display configuration before and then I decided to distupgrade, now I can't get the resolution to 1280x1024 even though it is the only resolution in xorg.conf
[03:00] <virogenesis> its not dos
[03:00] <stopher> i know its Phoenix BIOS
[03:00] <markrian> ChaosAFS, er, Ubuntu has a GUI. Called GNOME.
[03:00] <virogenesis> damn....
[03:00] <Warbo> I love DOS! Without it my computers wouldn't work
[03:00] <ChaosAFS> BlueEagle: i believe i downloaded the live CD and burned it to a CD
[03:00] <Warbo> I have no experience of MSDOS though
[03:01] <Dodzey> ChaosAFS, you sure it wasnt the server cd?
[03:01] <ChaosAFS> pretty sure
[03:01] <BlueEagle> stopher: I really do not know or think so.
[03:01] <ChaosAFS> the iso is named something like this
[03:01] <ChaosAFS> ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386
[03:01] <BlueEagle> stopher: Have you got the name of the motherboard?
[03:01] <virogenesis> did you load up the cd?
[03:01] <viator> i smell a troll
[03:01] <dan2> how do I adjust the resolution with the latest release
[03:01] <viator> lol
[03:01] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: and you're not able to get it to show you a graphical interface?
[03:01] <dan2> I used dpkg-reconfigure, no luck even though I selected the only resolution I wanted
[03:01] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: Which graphics card/chipset have you got?
[03:01] <Dodzey> viator, my senses are tingly
[03:02] <Dodzey> vaitor, ^_^
[03:02] <RudyValencia> *"Computer", "<user>'s desktop". and "Trash" icons are missing, they can easily be restored :)
[03:02] <viator> system>prefrences>
[03:02] <viator> screenresolution
[03:02] <viator> @dan2
[03:02] <ChaosAFS> BlueEagle: radeon 9250 PCI card
[03:02] <dravas> Hah
[03:02] <stopher> BlueEagle: lemme check and ill get back to you asap
[03:02] <dravas> o.O
[03:03] <rockzman> Can anyone help me? i did format my windows partition and i did reinstall windows, what do i must do to load grub at boot
[03:03] <BlueEagle> stopher: :)
[03:03] <stopher> BlueEagle: i have it in the room next door
[03:03] <jrib> !grub > rockzman
[03:03] <Warbo> !grub > rockzman
[03:03] <Warbo> oops
[03:03] <timalot> rockzman: u need to use a cd to boot
[03:03] <jrib> Melectaus--: select the partition, and press enable, then it shoudl show up in /media
[03:03] <Han> With synaptic I have set up a proxy, but the proxy is gone and now I can't find how I set up the proxy. grepping in /etc/ for 8118 (the proxy port) finds nothing! Where is it?
[03:04] <rockzman> Warbo can i do that without a cd?
[03:04] <Warbo> Who wanted to boot from CD/floppy to preserve their MBR?
[03:04] <RudyValencia> Ubuntu has earned an "A" in my Linux distros testing, and Fedora falls way short.
[03:04] <RudyValencia> rock on!
[03:04] <ChaosAFS> so whats with the DOS?
[03:04] <kitche> Warbo: Zer0
[03:04] <Warbo> rockzman: I think it is possible from within Windows, but it is dodgy and I don'y know how to do it
[03:04] <dravas> Hey Gary13579 and ChaosAFS
[03:04] <kitche> that's the only part of his name I remember
[03:04] <Warbo> Zer0ne: You sorted yet?
[03:04] <Han> In the meanwhile, apt-get doesn't use that proxy. :-S
[03:04] <jrib> Melectaus--: I'm gonna be afk for a bit now, but 'gksudo nautilus' will give you a fiile manager with full permissions which you may need.  Be careful since you can also mess things up if you delete files and such
[03:04] <Gary13579> ewww dravas
[03:04] <viator> there is no DOS
[03:04] <Zer0ne> no :/
[03:05] <viator> its the CLI
[03:05] <timalot> rockzman: then it gets a bit tricky u need to mount your linux partition , and run grub-install somehow... my favorite method is to chroot to the mount point and run grub-install
[03:05] <ChaosAFS> i typed startx and all i got was "no screens found"
[03:05] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: There seems to be an issue with that graphics card. Have you tried choosing VGA safe mode in the boot menu?
[03:05] <TheGame> when is edgy going to be released
[03:05] <gary[ubuntu] > zer0ne: looks like it only gives me the option to boot from the first hard drive
[03:05] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: I think it should be the F4 key to choose it.
[03:05] <viator> 610
[03:05] <jordanau> TheGame, about 5 months
[03:05] <Zer0ne> i used to do something with lilo like root=/dev/hdb2 or whatever
[03:05] <Zer0ne> to do it
[03:05] <Zer0ne> yeah
[03:05] <TheGame> so its not going to be as big as a jump as breezy to dapper was?
[03:05] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: Hopefully that will give you the x screen.
[03:06] <jordanau> TheGame, a new release every six months
[03:06] <Warbo> ChaosAFS: DOS=Disk Operating System. Without one then Ubuntu wouldn't be able to do anything. Ubuntu has many different shells and graphical environments which can control the disk operating system, which in Ubuntu's case is called Linux
[03:06] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: However that screen will be very low resolution (800x600 or something) and some windows in the installer are too big for that.
[03:06] <natural20> when using the NVIDIA drivers package installer, i get the following error: Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel.  Pleas make usr eyou have installed the kernel source files for your kernel; on Red Hat Linux systems, for example, be sure you have the 'kernel-source' rpm installed.  If you know the correct kernel source files are installed, you may specify the kernel source path with the '--k
[03:06] <TheGame> i thought breezy to dapper was longer than 6 months
[03:06] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: to move them around simply hold your ALT key and click and drag the window to move it.
[03:06] <jordanau> !source > natural20
[03:06] <markrian> TheGame, it was - it was 6 months plus 6 weeks
[03:06] <natural20> !source
[03:06] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:06] <Warbo> ChaosAFS: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:07] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: When you've got ubuntu installed you will be able to install the fglrx drivers for your card and you should be able to use normal resolutions.
[03:07] <TheGame> so people on breezy who upgraded to dapper, were there many problems?
[03:07] <Warbo> TheGame: Not for me
[03:07] <Hexidigital> TheGame: i had no problems at all
[03:07] <TheGame> ok
[03:07] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: also if you've got an integrated graphics card in your motherboard it might (but really should not) help to turn it off in the BIOS.
[03:08] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: any questions?
[03:08] <TheGame> so whats anticipated for egdy
[03:08] <stopher> TheGame: I don't know you do I?
[03:08] <TheGame> that would make people want to upgrade
[03:08] <Anderson> Can someone explain to me the function of RJ45 crimping dies. I have only used the simple universal radio shack tye crimpers.
[03:08] <TheGame> beats me
[03:08] <jordanau> !edgy
[03:08] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:08] <stopher> BlueEagle: It's not showing anything...motherboard wise.
[03:08] <markrian> !schedule
[03:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[03:08] <Cin> !shedule
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shedule - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: and what you've got is not DOS but a TTY terminal server.
[03:08] <rockzman> jrib i dont have ubuntu install cd
[03:08] <Warbo> TheGame: Dapper will be supported for years anyway, so you wouldn't need to upgrade
[03:09] <ChaosAFS> BlueEagle: so... what do i type in the black screen :P
[03:09] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: You hit CTRL+ALT+DEL to reboot. :)
[03:09] <Hexidigital> !schedule
[03:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[03:09] <Warbo> ChaosAFS: Look at what I put in quotes above
[03:09] <stopher> ChaosAFS: type: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:09] <Anderson> Can someone explain the function of different RJ45 crimping dies? I have only used the simple universal radio shack tye crimpers.
[03:09] <TheGame> ya but if theres something that would make me want to upgrade then i owuld
[03:09] <stopher> if it's connected to the internet, it will install the GUI
[03:09] <Hexidigital> !patience > Anderson
[03:09] <stopher> Anderson: what do you mean 'dies'?
[03:09] <BlueEagle> stopher: Now let me see if I got this right. The disk controller is it on the motherboard or is it an expansion card?
[03:09] <timalot> !dies
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <stopher> Disk Controller? Would be on the motherboard.
[03:10] <ajax4_> A program I've used successfully for months now in Dapper is now crashing. Anyone know how I can check to see if any of the files in the package (or its dependents) are corrupted?
[03:10] <verbose> Anderson: rj-45s have to comply with a standard...what crimps one should crimp another
[03:10] <stopher> it's a real server...honest to goodness....real built server....made for serving BlueEagle.
[03:10] <gary[ubuntu] > !hal
[03:10] <ubotu> hal: Hardware Abstraction Layer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.7-1ubuntu18 (dapper), package size 327 kB, installed size 1020 kB
[03:10] <timalot> ajax4_: whats the error
[03:10] <verbose> there are different connectors based on different wire types
[03:10] <verbose> also, different dies fit in different crimpers
[03:10] <exs> I finally have almost everything with my ubuntu now. So, how do I save this?.. Is there a linux equlivant to ghost?... easy with GUI etc?
[03:10] <ajax4_> timalot: It segfaults...the package is xfe (lightweight file manager)
[03:10] <Anderson> verbose, I thought so too, but I have been looking at different crimpers that have modular dies.
[03:10] <verbose> but the pin spacing and whatnot is universal
[03:11] <Warbo> exs: You can just use tar, or even dd
[03:11] <BlueEagle> stopher: That really did not answer my quetsion. The question is if the server has got the SCSI controller buildt in on the motherboard or if it is an expansion card that sits in a PCI slot.
[03:11] <Anderson> verbose, http://www.controlcable.com/details/item.asp?id=43332380|70441|
[03:11] <BlueEagle> question
[03:11] <Warbo> exs: Make an archive of your root directory, then just extract it to restore it
[03:11] <stopher> BlueEagle: It's on the motherboard
[03:11] <ChaosAFS> im gonna reboot and try these commands. if they dont work i'll be back
[03:11] <secleinteer> hey, does any1 know if there's a way to watch rstp mov streams using the mplayer plugin? i'm only getting sound
[03:12] <timalot> ajax4_: if u type dpkg -L <package name> it will list the files in that package... but if its segfaulting it could be anything.... try deleting yuor config for that package and running it
[03:12] <BlueEagle> stopher: I see. Have you got any chance at all to open the chassis of the server and have a look-see on the motherboard in question to determine the producer and model? Perhaps you've got this information in any manuals that may have accompanied the server?
[03:12] <Han> Hmmm I found the proxy setting, but it's ignored. It's a bug.
[03:12] <exs> Norton Ghost alternative?
[03:12] <BlueEagle> stopher: If the server is prebuildt who buildt it and what did they call the server?
[03:12] <stopher> BlueEagle: I have opened the server to look for a model/producer, but can't find anything.
[03:13] <verbose> Anderson: i'm pretty sure what works on one will work on another
[03:13] <ajax4_> timalot: I renamed it and it created new config files but it still segfaults, so I'm operating under the assumption (for now) that one of the packaged files could have gotten corrupted.
[03:13] <stopher> BlueEagle: the manufacturer built it, but no software/docs/anything with it, just called it a server
[03:13] <stopher> BlueEagle: Actually they called it a ProServ
[03:13] <verbose> Anderson: i believe mine is a 2045(older paladin) and it's worked on all rj-45's i've ever crimped
[03:13] <Warbo> exs: Just use "gksudo nautilus /" to get the file manager in root mode, then select the entire contents of / and go "Create Archive" (use tar, not gz or bz2, since they would take AGES)
[03:13] <verbose> if the rj-45 fits in a NIC or switch, it will fit the crimpers
[03:13] <timalot> ajax4_: if its got no dependencies... just remove the package and reinstall it
[03:14] <ajax4_> timalot: Tried that but its still crashing. Didn't try the dependencies though (there are a lot). I was looking for a quick way to reinstall all the dependencies.
[03:15] <Anderson> verbose, ok, also is there different tips or tipping methods for STP?
[03:15] <BlueEagle> stopher: Whi manufactured it? And has it got a number after ProServ?
[03:16] <timalot> ajax4_: problem with removing dependencies is that probably a whole lot of other programs rely on them aswell so it starts getting messy
[03:16] <verbose> Anderson: i'm not sure about that
[03:17] <Anderson> verbose, alright, I'm going to be responsible for a big network, and I was wondering if I could run some ideas by anyone who has experience.
[03:17] <ajax4_> timalot: Well, do you know of a way to just test the packages versus the installed version? I remember RPM had something like this so I figured the DEB files might also.
[03:17] <timalot> ajax4_: have u tried creating another user... logining in as them and running xfe
[03:17] <ajax4_> timalot: Thats a good idea. I'll try that now.
[03:18] <verbose> Anderson: typically, the guy in charge of the big network doesn't crimp cables...he has better things to do
[03:18] <nutshell42> the ubuntu installer hangs after partitioning while it tries to fsck my windows partitions
[03:18] <nutshell42> how do I keep it from doing that?
[03:18] <rockzman> Can someone help why my sgd_0[1] .9450_english.img is higher than my floppy disk if it is used to be a boot image
[03:18] <verbose> Anderson: hire a cable puller
[03:18] <Anderson> verbose, it's not always that easy.
[03:18] <rockzman> Can someone help why my sgd_0[1] .9450_english.img is higher than my floppy disk if it is used to be a boot image
[03:18] <Xappe> nutshell42: maybe if you tell it not to mount them
[03:19] <kitche> rockzman: maybe you made the .img to big
[03:19] <timalot> rockzman: whats the size of the image file?
[03:19] <rockzman> i1.40 MB (1,474,560 bytes)
[03:19] <rockzman> timalot 1.40 MB (1,474,560 bytes)
[03:19] <timalot> rockzman: thats ok
[03:19] <markrian> nutshell42, indeed, don't have ubuntu mount them - you can sort that out later
[03:19] <nutshell42> Xappe,
[03:19] <nutshell42>  could try that, but it gives me an fsck error on a ext2 partition I definitely did not mount
[03:19] <BlueEagle> stopher: I've found a manual for proserv 900, 1200 and 1500 servers. There should probably be one that indicates which of these you've got.
[03:19] <rockzman> kitche why i just unzip it from offical site
[03:19] <nutshell42> so I don't think it cares
[03:20] <BlueEagle> stopher: Actually it goes all the way up to 5000 :)
[03:20] <nutshell42> how do I change any options in the partitioning tool anyway?
[03:20] <rockzman> timalot why when i format my floppy it has a fewer size
[03:20] <kitche> rockzman: you might have to format the floppy differently
[03:20] <nutshell42> I've found no obvious way to change the file system of the / partition
[03:20] <kitche> I know you can format a floppy more then 1.44 mb
[03:20] <rockzman> kitche what kind of floppy is this .img for?
[03:20] <nutshell42> without deleting and recreating the partition
[03:20] <ajax4_> timalot: Crashing still happens :(
[03:20] <timalot> rockzman: because when u format the disk some of the space is taken up by the file index... (directories and stuff)
[03:20] <BlueEagle> stopher: and as far as I can tell the manufacturer is Tangent
[03:20] <rockzman> kitche i formatted that using windows floppy disk formatter and it is not big enough
[03:20] <markrian> I'm very surprised you have an ext2 partition at all, something isn't right
[03:21] <rockzman> timalot what should i do
[03:21] <kitche> rockzman: ah that's why windows floppy puts a lot of junk on a floppy then it should
[03:21] <nutshell42> mako, it's a 50mb boot partition, no reason to use ext3 for that
[03:21] <timalot> rockzman: that image file is the correct size... u can put it on  a disk ok
[03:21] <rockzman> kitche what formatter should i get
[03:21] <Soccrmastr> guys sh files are only opening in text editors for me
[03:21] <timalot> ajax4_: oh well it was worth a try
[03:21] <nathansnook> how do I add java I have tried the wiki and it says package not found
[03:21] <Anderson> verbose, Some of my ideas are, diagram everthing and maintain different levels of diagrams (physical, network, geographic). Also I am going to use twist on tags at both ends of the cable to keep track of what goes where, I will probably put the same information on both ends, switch/port user/location. Keep copies of all of my configurations. Maintain organized software repositories. Get sufficient equipment for all techs.
[03:21] <Soccrmastr> how can I make it open as it should like a shell, i even tried running it from the terminal with sudo still just opens textb editor
[03:21] <kitche> timalot:: he says he can't put it on a floppy though
[03:22] <timalot> kitche: why?
[03:22] <ajax4_> timalot: Yeah, don't know of a way to test the installed packages for integrity?
[03:22] <rockzman> kitche is there how to format a disk and have more free space
[03:22] <kitche> nathansnook: you can go download java from sun's website
[03:22] <kitche> rockzman: yeah you could try the linux floppy formatters
[03:22] <nathansnook> doesn't that require root
[03:22] <Anderson> verbose, I will keep some sort of spread sheet or databases to keep track of everything, and maybe program some new software.
[03:22] <rockzman> kitche where do i get those
[03:22] <nathansnook> to install?
[03:22] <BlueEagle> stopher: You still there?
[03:22] <kitche> roczman: you might have to use rawrite
[03:22] <timalot> ajax4_: the .deb files have a md5 sum ... but i dont know about the individual files inside the package
[03:22] <kitche> to write the img to the floppy
[03:22] <kitche> thinkt hat's what you need to do now I think about it rockzman
[03:23] <ajax4_> timalot: Okay, thanks for your help.
[03:23] <markrian> nutshell42, explain how your partitions are arranged, and exactly what you did in the install - what's being made, formatted, mounted (to where?)
[03:23] <timalot> ajax4_: yeah its annoying when that happens
[03:23] <Soccrmastr> what directory will my USB device open to?
[03:23] <dlab> hmm
[03:23] <jordanau> nathansnook, so sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-plugin did not work?
[03:23] <Soccrmastr> Im trying to plug my camera in, but not sure where to get into it, not opening up in the tree
[03:23] <dlab> what's the quickest way to get to a shell on the ubuntu install cd for sparc?
[03:24] <nathansnook> says Couldn't find package sun-java5-plugin
[03:24] <jordanau> Soccrmastr, /media usually
[03:24] <dlab> the standard ncurses installer is too slow to use over alom/telnet
[03:24] <dlab> :P
[03:24] <Soccrmastr> yeah, in there is floppy and cdrom, no usb
[03:24] <stopher> BlueEagle: I'm back sorry about that.
[03:24] <jordanau> nathansnook, have you enabled the universe and multiverse repositories?
[03:24] <Soccrmastr> but the usb does work because Ive used it for a mous ebefore
[03:24] <timalot> rockzman: u cant just copy the image file onto the floppy... its an image of the floppy
[03:24] <nutshell42> markrian, lots of lvm partitions (no way to manage those with the ubuntu installer or did I miss it?), two ntfs windows partitions, 3 fats, 1 50mb ext2 boot, 2 reiserfs linux partitions, the boot and one of the ntfs partitions are primary the rest extended
[03:24] <timalot> !rawrite
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rawrite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <timalot> !dd
[03:25] <jordanau> Soccrmastr, how about /mnt?
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <nathansnook> jordanau yes
[03:25] <Anderson> !stp
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <nutshell42> I changed nothing, just had it format one of the linux partitions
[03:25] <stopher> BlueEagle: I'm going to go check again, make sure I didn't miss the manufacturer name.
[03:25] <Anderson> Does anyone know anything about tipping STP?
[03:25] <Soccrmastr> nope thats empty :/
[03:25] <BlueEagle> stopher: I am guessing Tangent Computer ProServ 3000 with four 550MHz Xeon processors and six hot-swappable drives and six pci and one isa slot.
[03:25] <BlueEagle> stopher: guess is based on
[03:25] <jordanau> Soccrmastr, you might have to mount it manually
[03:25] <BlueEagle> bahh
[03:25] <markrian> Okay, that's some crazy partitioning scheme you got going on there.
[03:25] <BlueEagle> http://www.gcn.com/print/vol19_no12/2021-4.html
[03:26] <jordanau> nathansnook, are you sure?
[03:26] <BlueEagle> stopher: Seems like an old piece of equiptment tbh. :)
[03:26] <nathansnook> jordanau: how can I double check this?
[03:26] <nutshell42> but it's perfectly in order, no crazy mixture of partitioning tables or anything
[03:26] <Soccrmastr> do u have a link to the wiki article for manually mounting?
[03:26] <Anderson> Does anyone know anything about tipping STP?
[03:26] <Soccrmastr> I am not sure of the commands
[03:26] <markrian> nutshell42, so let me understand this - all you had the Ubuntu installer do is to format one of the reiser partitions?
[03:26] <nutshell42> fdisk (any fdisk, linux, windows, xyzfdisk, you name it) works fine
[03:26] <markrian> nutshell42, And presumably mount that to / ?
[03:27] <nutshell42> yep
[03:27] <nutshell42> oh and a swap partition
[03:27] <nutshell42> forgot that one
[03:27] <dlab> ugh
[03:27] <dlab> even the rescue image uses ncurses..
[03:27] <markrian> Okay
[03:27] <markrian> Which partition throws up an error?
[03:27] <BlueEagle> stopher: however on tangent.com I find no reference to the proserv series so finding the hardware is probably a matter of looking on it.
[03:27] <nutshell42> the second or third windows partition
[03:27] <Soccrmastr> whats the cmmand for manually moubnting
[03:27] <Soccrmastr> mounting*
[03:28] <nutshell42> but I didn't pay attention whether it was the first to be checked
[03:28] <ajax4_> Soccrmastr: There are also applets you can add to your gnome panels that have buttons for mounting and unmounting
[03:28] <timalot> !mount
[03:28] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[03:28] <Soccrmastr> i am using xfce
[03:28] <nutshell42> it just gave me an error on the ext2, then continued
[03:28] <Anderson> Does anyone know anything about tipping STP?
[03:28] <nutshell42> and then hang on the fat
[03:28] <timalot> mount <device name> <mount point>
[03:28] <markrian> Are you having Ubuntu mount these partitions, but not format them?
[03:28] <nutshell42> but I don't want it to check those partitions anyway
[03:28] <nutshell42> yep
[03:28] <nutshell42> they work fine
[03:28] <Soccrmastr> hmmm... how to know the device name :/
[03:29] <Soccrmastr> just mount
[03:29] <Soccrmastr> I want to take the images off of the camera
[03:29] <Soccrmastr> and put them onto the laptop
[03:29] <timalot> Soccrmastr: ok
[03:29] <nutshell42> all I want is a way to keep the partitioner or the installer from doing anything
[03:29] <Soccrmastr> not format
[03:29] <markrian> Right, well, the best thing to do then is not to have Ubuntu installer mount them at all
[03:29] <nutshell42> I can format the partitions manually
[03:29] <markrian> Then it won't even read them, so you can install the system
[03:29] <nutshell42> well, that didn't keep it from checking the ext2
[03:29] <markrian> Clearly the Ubuntu installer needs work ;o
 stopher: I am guessing Tangent Computer ProServ 3000 with four 550MHz Xeon processors and six hot-swappable drives and six pci and one isa slot.  <<that sounds about right :)
[03:29] <timalot> Soccrmastr: so it hasnt automatically mounted?
[03:29] <dlab> markrian: agreed....
[03:29] <nutshell42> the partitioning tool especially
[03:29] <Soccrmastr> nope, tried two usb cords too
[03:30] <nutshell42> it's not the first time an ubuntu installation fails while trying to partition the disk
[03:30] <Soccrmastr> its working with my windows pc, and I know the usb port is fine cause ive sued it before
[03:30] <nutshell42> the text based installer once fscked my partition table
[03:30] <stopher> BlueEagle: the cable on the SCSI has a tag on the side that connects to the motherboard. says FoxCONN  probably the cable maker or something.
[03:30] <markrian> nutshell42, I'm not sure what to suggest. You could try downloading the alternate CD instead and installing from that - I do that anyway, it's quicker and easier
[03:30] <markrian> toh.
[03:30] <timalot> Soccrmastr: it's probably going to be like /dev/sda or /dev/sda1
[03:30] <nutshell42> the alternate cd?
[03:30] <SlyGuy> hmmm anyone have problems running synatpic?
[03:30] <burnhamd> yes me
[03:31] <markrian> nutshell42, yes, there are several different install discs of Ubuntu 6.06
[03:31] <nutshell42> as long as it gives me more control to tell it what to do and what not to do
[03:31] <nutshell42> I'm happy
[03:31] <Soccrmastr> those fodlers dont exist, should they?
[03:31] <markrian> Desktop, alternate, server
[03:31] <SlyGuy> i get this all of a sudden:
[03:31] <nutshell42> ah I remember
[03:31] <SlyGuy> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:31] <markrian> Alternate can (apparently) handle LVM stuff, and generally more complex systems
[03:31] <nutshell42> I'll try that
[03:31] <dlab> is there another linux distro that'll work on sun4v?
[03:31] <BlueEagle> stopher: Yes. I am looking for the name of the motherboard. I've been all trough the tangent.com website and found various proserv owners manuals but none of them list anythign useful.
[03:31] <burnhamd> synaptic wont load giving me the error libvte.so.4 cannot open shared object file
[03:31] <markrian> It's a whole CD to download, but you should have more lick
[03:31] <Soccrmastr> i looked into dev/bus/usb
[03:31] <markrian> er, luck
[03:32] <nutshell42> thx
[03:32] <Soccrmastr> no, in there is 001
[03:32] <markrian> np
[03:32] <Anderson> Are there different tips or tipping methods for STP?
[03:32] <Soccrmastr> and 005
[03:32] <Soccrmastr> but not sure how to open them
[03:32] <burnhamd> slymaster did you update today?
[03:32] <jaye> Hi everyone when I install vmware workstation I'm not sure what to put in when it asks for the C header files that match your running kernel.  Does anyone know what to put there to not make the install crash?
[03:32] <BlueEagle> stopher: You might want to contact tangent on http://www.tangent.com/explore/tech/support.htm they do list that they provide "Lifetime technical support"
[03:32] <SlyGuy> i applied the updates today and kaboom
[03:32] <SlyGuy> no damn syntapic
[03:32] <BlueEagle> stopher: I suggest that you ask them for all technical spesifications on the Proserv 3000 and wether or not it was ever shipped with support for P3 processors.
[03:32] <kitche> jaye: it's the path tot he kernel headers
[03:33] <nutshell42> I really hope the next version of the installer will give users at least the option to leave out some non-essential steps; every other installer I've seen did that, but none of the ubuntu ones =/
[03:33] <burnhamd> did you do anything else today slyguy
[03:33] <timalot> jaye:  use free software not that shite
[03:33] <BlueEagle> stopher: Also they need a serial number which should be printed on the chasis somwhere. Perhaps near the power supply, perhaps somwhere else.
[03:33] <SlyGuy> nope
[03:33] <Soccrmastr> ok I've found the location of the device
[03:33] <dlab> .. the installer should detect that I'm using a serial line and not use fancy colors... :/
[03:33] <Soccrmastr> but the folder is not recognized as a valid file format
[03:33] <stopher> BlueEagle: hmmm. I can't find a name on the motherboard. The chips have different names on them, (the ones soldered onto the board.) NEC, INTEL, and LSI
[03:33] <dlab> really, waiting 10-20s for the screen to draw is annoying
[03:33] <markrian> nutshell42, the alternate CD uses debian-installer I think, which is much more powerful and flexible
[03:33] <burnhamd> must be the update breaks synaptic
[03:33] <SlyGuy> i sat down noticed my laptop had updates .. applied them now i can't run synaptic
[03:33] <Soccrmastr> its in /dev/bus/usb
[03:34] <BlueEagle> stopher: Now, judging by the look and feel of the tangent.com website I wouldn't get my hopes up.
[03:34] <burnhamd> everyone hold off on updating synaptic
[03:34] <stopher> BlueEagle: There are a couple places i have seen S/N's but they aren't labeled...all on the chasis
[03:34] <BlueEagle> stopher: The name I am looking for should not be on any chip. It should be written on the motherboard itself.
[03:34] <natural20> so when i upgrade to dapper, system X fails to load.  I get the following error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLCore.so  UnloadModule:  "GLCore"   Failed to load module: "GLCore" (loader failed, 7)
[03:34] <nutshell42> markrian, don't tell me it's the text based debian installer that was used in the last ubuntu version. I spent hours recreating my partition table after the partitioner of *that* installer fscked it up
[03:34] <jaye> kitche: when i point it at the dir that the linux-headers package installed to it dies with an exception should I try the files in the kernel-source?
[03:34] <ardchoille> burnhamd: I only use the official repos and I haven't seen any updates for a couple days
[03:35] <kitche> jaye: you can try that
[03:35] <dlab> ugh
[03:35] <SlyGuy> i honestly didn't even look to closely at what needed updating
[03:35] <jaye> kitche: ok thanks
[03:35] <BlueEagle> stopher: Common places are near the processor seat (in your case there's four) and near the pins where the cables from the front panel of the chasis are plugged (for hdd and power lights and such)
[03:35] <dlab> now the rescue image fails since I don't have a complete install
[03:35] <SlyGuy> just click install updates
[03:35] <burnhamd> i will look through some logs to find the source
[03:35] <dlab> ubuntu is really angering me :P
[03:35] <markrian> nutshell42, er, yes, it probably is... I expect it's an updated version, but I have no idea how it'll deal with your set up ;o
[03:35] <burnhamd> then report it
[03:35] <stopher> Okay, a backward R and U on the motherboard wouldn' thelp?
[03:35] <burnhamd> slyguy can you post your repostitories somewhere
[03:35] <burnhamd> not here though
[03:35] <stopher> BlueEagle: there is a sticker on the processor bays that says SMP/PORTLAND
[03:35] <ardchoille> !paste
[03:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:36] <nutshell42> markrian, just give me a fscking way to leave out the partitioning stage
[03:36] <SlyGuy> i am a newb dude :)
[03:36] <nutshell42> fdisk works fine
[03:36] <nutshell42> qtparted works fine
[03:36] <burnhamd> ok
[03:36] <burnhamd> ill tell you how hang on
[03:36] <Anderson> Are there different tips or tipping methods for STP vice UTP?
[03:36] <SlyGuy> aight
[03:36] <BlueEagle> stopher: No, that's not it. SMP = Something Multiple Pocessors or something.
[03:36] <nutshell42> the partitioning tools of every other distro I've ever tried worked fine
[03:36] <nutshell42> only the ubuntu ones are fscked up =(
[03:37] <BlueEagle> stopher: What you could do is google the names and numbers on the chips near the SCSI connectors. One of them will probably be the SCSI controller chip.
[03:37] <BlueEagle> stopher: Now how new is this server btw?
[03:37] <timalot> the debian installer partion section does suck
[03:37] <dlab> can someone just tell me a boot argument I can pass to the install image that'll give me a shell instead of this ncurses shite?
[03:38] <burnhamd> slyguy: type this in terminal "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[03:38] <BlueEagle> stopher: Is this server in a regular chasis or is it for rack mounting?
[03:38] <ardchoille> burnhamd: use gksudo for gui apps, sudo is for cli apps
[03:38] <timalot> dlab: u can run a shell from  the installed cant u?
[03:38] <ardchoille> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:38] <dlab> timalot: I need to get sshd up off of the cd so I can install it in the first place
[03:39] <markrian> nutshell42, debian-installer should give you a way to drop out of the 'wizard' mode and select which part of the installation to jump to next
[03:39] <stopher> BlueEagle: Regular chasis...its short (height) and long (depth) and about as wide as it is tall
[03:39] <dlab> the normal ncurses bit is way too slow to use over a serial console
[03:39] <burnhamd> then paste the stuff in the file to copypot.com
[03:39] <burnhamd> ardchoille it will still run
[03:39] <stopher> BlueEagle: i wouldn't be surprised if it were an older system
[03:39] <burnhamd> wither way
[03:39] <burnhamd> either*
[03:39] <toxic> anyone know if i can turn on/off screen :0.1 on a dual head display?
[03:39] <ardchoille> !worksforme > burnhamd
[03:39] <toxic> without restarting x
[03:39] <nutshell42> markrian, yes but iirc last time the partitioning step was mandatory
[03:39] <markrian> Hmm...
[03:40] <BlueEagle> stopher: "about as wide as it is tall"? And appox how many centimeter is that?
[03:40] <BlueEagle> stopher: 15-20 cm?
[03:40] <nutshell42> you have  a menu where you can choose to configure a bunch of stuff
[03:40] <markrian> yeah
[03:40] <nutshell42> but when you go on to install the system the partitioner is part of the sequence
[03:40] <timalot> dlab: isnt there some help messages available at the boot prompt
[03:40] <burnhamd> slyguy: then give me the link
[03:40] <nutshell42> and you can't cancel that part
[03:40] <stopher> 18tall x12wide x25depth
[03:41] <stopher> BlueEagle: 18tall x12wide x25depth
[03:41] <markrian> Well then, the only thing I can think of is to create a chroot environment in the partition you want to install into and build it up from there
[03:41] <dlab> timalot: nothing on how to drop to a shell
[03:41] <Anderson> Are there different tips or tipping methods for STP vice UTP?
[03:41] <dlab> I'll try init=/bin/sh, but for some reason I feel I'll have to break and run the installer again :/
[03:41] <BlueEagle> stopher: That would be a shuttle chassis, wouldn't it?
[03:41] <Soccrmastr> ok guys, when I plug in my camera via USB a new file appears in /proc/bus/usb/001, and in/dev/bus/usb/001, but the file name is 00X and every time I disconnect it and plug it back in X gets hgher, and the file is unrecognized and cant be opened with any program.  this is my camera and I want to empty all of the pictures out of it onto the laptop. does the camra have to be formatted to...
[03:41] <Soccrmastr> ...support linux or soemthing?
[03:41] <stopher> BlueEagle: shuttle?
[03:41] <dlab> was hoping there was some argument like "nomenu" or something
[03:42] <nutshell42> markrian, well but to get a working system I assume I'd have to run a bunch of scripts not included in the .debs, so I don't see how that would work
[03:42] <nutshell42> I tried to upgrade a debian system to ubuntu once
[03:42] <burnhamd> can someone help me undo some dpkg-divert commands
[03:42] <nutshell42> and it wasn't pretty
[03:42] <timalot> dlab: if you are at the physical console u can use alt-f2 or something or u you could try ctrl-z / ctrl-c when the ncurses is running
[03:42] <BlueEagle> stopher: something like http://global.shuttle.com/Product/images/SB95Pv2_Top.jpg ?
[03:42] <nutshell42> lots of stuff that almost worked but broke in subtle way
[03:42] <nutshell42> *s
[03:42] <dlab> timalot: I'm running over ALOM connected to the console
[03:42] <dlab> ^C does nothing
[03:42] <burnhamd> the exact ones located here http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/1AZ16967.html
[03:42] <timalot> ALOM?
[03:42] <dlab> suspend I doubt works as it looks like it's forked by init
[03:42] <burnhamd> i messed all my media players up
[03:43] <dlab> timalot: lights-out managment
[03:43] <dlab> so you can connect to the console remotely
[03:43] <stopher> BlueEagle: Nope.. Its IVORY (white) not black, has a air door in front that swings open and the drives can be removed that way... and you can access floppy/cdrom then
[03:43] <excitatory> would the fglrx driver from ubuntu or ati.com be preferred?
[03:43] <nutshell42> All I'd need is a way to leave out a few steps in the installer; perhaps I could take a look at the installer scripts
[03:43] <dlab> there is no keyboard/vga port on this box :P
[03:43] <BlueEagle> stopher: I was thinking about the form factor.
[03:43] <dazvid> How can i install a specific version of an app using apt-get ?
[03:43] <timalot> i am pretty sure ctrl-z or ctrl-c will work
[03:43] <markrian> nutshell42, sounds like a plan. I'm afraid I'm out of ideas.
[03:43] <stopher> BlueEagle: oooh. in that case, yes
[03:43] <dazvid> like an older version of a package
[03:43] <dlab> timalot: neither do..
[03:44] <BlueEagle> stopher: Ok. Well that will make it a newer model than what I was concidering. :)
[03:44] <nathansnook> I just install ubuntu and notice that I am using a i386 kernel
[03:44] <nathansnook> my machine is and i686
[03:44] <bruenig> dazvid, the older version may not be in the repo, generally I have found they don't carry two different versions of the same package
[03:44] <nutshell42> markrian: do you know whether kubuntu and mepis use exactly the same installer?
[03:44] <stopher> BlueEagle: oh.
[03:44] <BlueEagle> stopher: those cases and the mobos for them aren't all that old
[03:44] <dlab> either does sigquit (^\)
[03:44] <nutshell42> I assume xubuntu doesn
[03:44] <nutshell42> *does
[03:44] <nutshell42> because it's gtk based too
[03:44] <stopher> BlueEagle: okay.
[03:44] <nutshell42> but the other two?
[03:44] <bruenig> dazvid, what exactly are you looking to do, I might be able to find a deb of the version you need
[03:44] <nso> Where can I get windows media player plug-ins for ubuntu?
[03:44] <dazvid> thanks bruenig. Know where I could get older packages, because two updates today broke my terminal/synaptic
[03:45] <Soccrmastr> you can use corossover office plugins
[03:45] <markrian> nutshell42, I'm afraid I don't know, no
[03:45] <timalot> in the debian installed if u canel out of something it gives u a list of install steps... i think there is a menu option to run a shell
[03:45] <dazvid> gnome-terminal-data  (= 2.14.2-0ubuntu1)
[03:45] <timalot> s/installed/installer
[03:45] <dazvid> it was updated to 2.14.2-0ubuntu3 just a few minutes ago..
[03:45] <nutshell42> markrian: nevertheless thx for your help =)
[03:46] <bruenig> dazvid, perhaps this? http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/gnome/gnome-terminal-data
[03:47] <dazvid> awesome, thanks bruenig
[03:47] <stopher> BlueEagle: where the SCSI connectors are, it says NSCO
[03:47] <stopher> BlueEagle: where the SCSI connectors are, it says NSCI
[03:47] <nso> Where can I get Windows Media Player plugins for Ubuntu?
[03:47] <bruenig> !restricted > nso
[03:48] <dlab> nso: mplayer-plugin for mozilla
[03:48] <dlab> should work with firefox
[03:48] <Soccrmastr> cool
[03:48] <markrian> nutshell42, good luck ;o
[03:48] <bruenig> but you also need w32codecs to make those plugins work on all media
[03:48] <Soccrmastr> dlab: is that in the ubuntu repositories?
[03:48] <bruenig> !info mozilla-mplayer
[03:48] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.17-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 421 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[03:48] <dlab> Soccrmastr: I have no idea, I use slackware for my desktop boxes
[03:48] <brian__> question: Why can't I install totem-xine on Dapper?
[03:49] <dlab> I have to use ubuntu on this box as it's the only distro to work on this arch
[03:49] <Jural> wondering if I could get a little help with network printing with cups?
[03:49] <nso> I figured there was a substitute
[03:49] <bruenig> brian__, how did you try to get it install?
[03:49] <bruenig> it to install*
[03:49] <brian__> I'm in a catch-22: Can't install totem-xine without uninstalling totom-gstreamer; apparently I can unintstall totem-gstreamer w/o uninstalling the Ubuntu desktop
[03:50] <NickGarvey> brian__: do it without dependancies
[03:50] <bruenig> brian__, ubuntu-desktop is a meta package, you can uninstall that, don't worry about it
[03:50] <brian__> oh, really?
[03:50] <brian__> OK
[03:50] <brian__> define "meta package"
[03:51] <NickGarvey> brian__: it is just a reference to a bunch of others
[03:51] <stopher> BlueEagle: I THINK I FOUND IT! :D
[03:51] <helpwithnick> can someone help me out with something?
[03:51] <NickGarvey> brian__: its like removing a map, everything on the map is still there
[03:51] <brian__> Oh! OK, thanks!
[03:51] <helpwithnick> why when I use my default nickname, does it disconnect me?
[03:51] <brian__> User groups are so great.
[03:51] <brian__> cheers.
[03:51] <NickGarvey> helpwithnick: because someone else has that name most likely
[03:51] <NickGarvey> brian__: :)
[03:51] <Jural> anyone know about the state of cups on ubuntu printing fine on gentoo, but errrors with ubuntu
[03:52] <helpwithnick> it says 'erroneous nickname'
[03:52] <helpwithnick> that suggests something else is going on
[03:52] <dlab> what is your original nick?
[03:52] <stopher> BlueEagle: http://america.hongfaith.com/Case_Chassis/Server%20Chassis/cabrillo-c.htm
[03:52] <Hero_> Hero
[03:52] <dlab> might be reserved for a bot..
[03:53] <stopher> BlueEagle: http://www.dealtime.co.uk/xPF-Intel_Cabrillo_C_Server_Chassis_KCYCABRAL
[03:53] <Hero_> it took me forever to figure out all I needed to do was change my nick
[03:53] <_hero_> so here is my burning question...
[03:53] <levander> Someone can tell me why when I 'apt-cache install php4-gd2' I get some note thing in the output saying it's selecting php4-gd instead?  I want gd version 2.
[03:53] <burnhamd> hey guys how do i undo a dpkg-divert command
[03:53] <_hero_> if I have an x86 mac, what version of ubuntu do I need?
[03:53] <BlueEagle> stopher: Those look like regular mini towers and not shuttle cases tbh.
[03:54] <dlab> if you're using bootcamp, any x86 distro should work
[03:54] <stopher> BlueEagle: it looks just like the one i have, which is a server case, not regular.
[03:54] <abrocadabro> I accidentally did this mkswap /dev/sda6 where /dev/sda6 is my root, now I can't even boot any more, is there a way to reverse this?
[03:54] <dlab> but if you need native EFI support (which I hear breaks the ATI driver), I'm not sure if ubuntu supports it
[03:54] <stopher> BlueEagle: Intel Cabrillo-C Server Chassis
[03:54] <stopher> 
[03:54] <_hero_> I didn't know you could use bootcamp to install linux
[03:55] <_hero_> I assumed that was just for windows
[03:55] <_hero_> would that actually work?
[03:55] <bruenig> you can install things with apt-cache install?
[03:55] <dlab> _hero_: bootcamp emulates the PC BIOS, which should work with any OS using BIOS calls..
[03:55] <_hero_> I see
[03:56] <_hero_> are there any disadvantages to going that way?
[03:56] <_hero_> (I have never tried bootcamp.)
[03:56] <bruenig> macs are inferior to pcs, other than that...
[03:56] <dlab> dunno, I don't own an apple
[03:56] <dlab> bruenig: EFI?
[03:57] <dlab> explain how they're inferior..
[03:57] <Mighty_Ferguson> Could someone please help me get network-manager to remember my network settings?
[03:57] <rast4> Ok, so I got Samba working which will allow me to log into my Windows 2k3 Server and I can view my file shares since I have it set up as a file server. When I view the rest of my workgroup and my other 4 XP machines, I can see the netbios names of each computer in the network view on ubuntu, but when I click on the XP boxes to log in, it won't even give me a user/pass dialog to log in, it only denies me. Any ideas?
[03:57] <_hero_> well, thanks everyone, that is one option
[03:58] <rast4> I'm confused as to why it will allow me to log into my 2k3 server with credentials, but it won't give me a credential dialog for the other XP machines in the same workgroup
[03:59] <burnhamd> hey anyone else noticed synaptic stops working with some updates today
[03:59] <burnhamd> i posted the error above
[03:59] <timalot> install ubuntu :)
[03:59] <stopher> BlueEagle: you still there?
[03:59] <crumb> exit
[03:59] <bruenig> burnhamd, somebody was just in here with that problem
[03:59] <bruenig> I don't use synaptic so I hadn't noticed, nor did I get any updates
[03:59] <dazvid> bruenig, I got the package, but now when i try to install gnome-terminal using apt-get, it wont because its trying to upgrade to newer package of gnome-terminal-data
[03:59] <Adam_G> hi people, I got an issue...
[04:00] <bruenig> dazvid, yeah, I figured that would happen
[04:00] <dazvid> any ideas on how to exclude that from upgrading?
[04:00] <burnhamd> ya slyguy but he never got back to me
[04:00] <Adam_G> I tried to install jedit from the .deb provided on their download site
[04:00] <oem> hello all
[04:00] <oem> ?
[04:00] <BlueEagle> stopher: working :)
[04:00] <stopher> BlueEagle: oh okay.
[04:00] <netdur> hey people, what are you doing about libvte.so.4?
[04:00] <stopher> BlueEagle: so you have no clue either?
[04:00] <Adam_G> it didn't work, and it's broken my apt
[04:00] <SlyGuy> i did
[04:00] <dan2> hi there
[04:00] <dazvid> or will I have to do all the packages manually?
[04:00] <SlyGuy> i sent you the link a while back
[04:00] <Adam_G> when I open synaptic, I get an error (it's short):
[04:00] <dan2> I'm having an issue with xorg where I think it's having issues detecting between which monitor I'm using (my lappy or my desk)
[04:00] <bruenig> dazvid, the only way I can think to work around it easily that would be to uninstall the current gnome-terminal-data, comment out the all the sources in your list or if you know which one gnome-terminal-data is coming from, then install it
[04:01] <ubuntu> Adam_G:  what error u get sir?
[04:01] <dazvid> lol ok
[04:01] <Adam_G> E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[04:01] <Adam_G> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[04:01] <dazvid> thanks again :)
[04:02] <ubuntu> Adam_G: unmark jedit for reinstall
[04:02] <oem> I have a Netgear wireless router, when I connect through the router I cannot update or download anything, I have an error that said Connection failed. When I connected directly to the Modem everything work fine. What is the problem there with the router?
[04:02] <bruenig> dazvid, if this is a big error which two people have now claimed it breaks synaptic, it will likely be fixed quickly
[04:02] <Adam_G> ubuntu, nothing shows up in synaptic. at all.
[04:02] <nickj6282> oem, are you using DHCP?
[04:02] <timalot> oem: does it run ubuntu?
[04:02] <Erestar_home> Hi guys. When I boot my computer, the system automatically detects and mouts the drive, but as read only. I'm curious what command is actually being executed. I'ld like to edit it to mount so anyone can write. Can anyone help?
[04:02] <oem> yes
[04:02] <dazvid> Yeh it uninstalls synaptic
[04:02] <dazvid> lol
[04:02] <ubuntu> Adam_G: do this
[04:02] <dazvid> quite silly
[04:02] <ubuntu> open konsole
[04:02] <oem> yes it does run ubuntu
[04:02] <TheCarl> I have a question, does an Mp3 with a 128 bitrate sound the same with a WMA with a 128 bit rate?
[04:02] <Adam_G> ubuntu:k
[04:02] <bruenig> Adam_G, jedit or gedit, because I have never heard of jedit
[04:02] <ubuntu> type sudo apt-get install jedit
[04:02] <burnhamd> wma at 128 is superior
[04:03] <Erestar_home> Oh, and I forgot to mention its an external USB HD
[04:03] <oem> and I able to connedt to this chat room and browse the net
[04:03] <TheCarl> you sure?
[04:03] <bruenig> !info jedit
[04:03] <ubotu> Package jedit does not exist in dapper
[04:03] <nickj6282> oem: is the router set up for DHCP as well?
[04:03] <burnhamd> yes
[04:03] <TheCarl> thank you
[04:03] <TheCarl> very much
[04:03] <oem> yes it is
[04:03] <burnhamd> np
[04:03] <Adam_G> bruenig, jedit: http://www.jedit.org/index.php
[04:03] <nickj6282> oem: does it give you an IP?
[04:03] <timalot> !jedit
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jedit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <bruenig> Adam_G, you are sure jedit is in one of your repos?
[04:03] <Phoul> Anyone know the name of a program that i can practice my typing in thats free and in synaptic
[04:03] <Phoul> like a game or something
[04:03] <Adam_G> bruenig: I added their repo
[04:03] <Phoul> I wanna get used to my new keyboard
[04:04] <oem> yes like the default: 198.162.0.0
[04:04] <Mighty_Ferguson> Hello, is there anyone here who can help me with network-manager? It will not remember the settings for my wireless network.
[04:04] <bruenig> java...hmmm why subject yourself to that
[04:04] <ubuntu> there is 1 jedit
[04:04] <ubuntu> hold on let me chk
[04:04] <Adam_G> ubuntu: doesn't work, same error as before (actually only the first one)
[04:04] <nickj6282> oem: do you have other PCs connected to the router? can they browse the internet?
[04:04] <BlueEagle> stopher: I've been looking for possible matches for baby atx motherboards with quad P3 socket 370
[04:05] <oem> I have 2 pc's connected both browse the net with no problem
[04:05] <hou5ton> I have the firefox plugin for totem and EasyUbuntu says it's installed, but a video on CNN.com still says it must have windows media player .... what now?
[04:05] <ubuntu> may be i'm wrong then
[04:05] <nickj6282> oem: but this third one doesn't, got it
[04:05] <timalot> !junior-typing
[04:05] <ubotu> junior-typing: Debian Jr. typing. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.3 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 36 kB
[04:05] <ubuntu> hou5ton:  try mplayer
[04:06] <oem> I have only 2 computer my daughter and I both of us have no problem browse the net
[04:06] <bruenig> Adam_G, i went to the install page and added their repo but am having a hard time connecting to it
[04:06] <Soccrmastr> mozilla-mplayer works great ;) thx man
[04:06] <bruenig> Adam_G, why not use the deb
[04:06] <oem> my printer connected to the router as well works fine.
[04:06] <Adam_G> bruenig: I did, originally- that was what first broke my apt
[04:06] <nickj6282> oem: what is your ISP?
[04:06] <oem> Cable vision
[04:06] <bruenig> yeah it is not connecting to the repo
[04:06] <oem> Optimum online
[04:07] <Adam_G> bruenig: I thought if I could get a good deb from their repo it would override the bad one... apparently not :P
[04:07] <nickj6282> oem: do you know if they lock your IP in to a single MAC address?
[04:07] <stopher> BlueEagle: Oh...okay
[04:07] <oem> where can I see if the modem is set to DHCP?
[04:07] <ubuntu> oen system>>admin>>networking
[04:07] <ubuntu> oem*
[04:07] <Finalhazard> Hey, FH here.
[04:07] <ubuntu> hi fh
[04:07] <oem> maybe the do because my IP address rarely change
[04:08] <dazvid> bruenig, I fixed my terminal, now Im happy
[04:08] <BlueEagle> stopher: so far the only quad boards of that form factor have been for AMD processors. :/
[04:08] <nickj6282> oem: depends on the modem, check your router config page for the modem's "default gateway" address then try it in your browser
[04:08] <dazvid> just downloaded all the packages manually
[04:08] <nickj6282> oem: works on some modems but not others
[04:08] <dazvid> and installed
[04:08] <dazvid> hehe
[04:08] <dazvid> :/
[04:08] <tyler_d> oem: manually change your ip by changing your mac address
[04:08] <bruenig> dazvid, did you use that process I said or another?
[04:08] <Finalhazard> I have a question for you guys. Y'see, I recently reinstalled Dapper on my PC, only as a partition with WinXP Media Center Edition on the PC too.
[04:08] <BlueEagle> stopher: Still it would amaze me if the name and model of the mobo wasn't printed on the mobo itself.
[04:08] <Soccrmastr> does anyone have a reccomendation for an easy-to-use GUI application that can quickly and easily connect to new wifi hotspots? I've been having trouble with the network manager in xubuntu....
[04:09] <BlueEagle> stopher: Have you got a digital camera? Could you take a picture of the mobo and send it to me?
[04:09] <oem> ok let me load the modem
[04:09] <oem> brb
[04:09] <Finalhazard> I was wondering, is there a way for Dapper to pick up my fonts on the Windows partition, without having to reinstall each one?
[04:09] <dazvid> well I went to that site you linked me too, it had all the dependencies on an FTP server. So i just downloaded them all and installed using dkpg
[04:09] <stopher> BlueEagle: it's not and yes, can you get DCC;s thru chat?
[04:09] <dlab> Finalhazard: where is your windows partition mounted?
[04:09] <varchar> i got a version of ubuntu in linux magazine, i want to install it...are there any drawbacks to using ubuntu ?
[04:10] <bruenig> dazvid, did that fix synaptic too?
[04:10] <Finalhazard> /dev/sda2. I can't change it (mainly due to my lack of knowledge of partitions).
[04:10] <bruenig> or did you not have a problem with synaptic, maybe that was someone else
[04:10] <nickj6282> varchar: totally a subjective question, good luck getting a straight answer ;)
[04:10] <ubuntu> varchar:  i dont see any
[04:10] <jamesarthur2> Does ubuntu still have a live cd?
[04:10] <dlab> Finalhazard: where is it mounted? where do you go to browse your windows files?
[04:10] <dazvid> No i havent reinstalled synaptic
[04:10] <varchar> i know, especially in an ubuntu chat
[04:10] <varchar> lmao
[04:10] <ubuntu> jamesarthur2: yes
[04:10] <bruenig> jamesarthur2, yes
[04:10] <dazvid> but I have the right packages to do so
[04:10] <jamesarthur2> where?
[04:10] <ubuntu> varchar:  then y ask ?
[04:10] <dazvid> just a matter of doing it :)
[04:10] <bruenig> on thier website
[04:11] <bruenig> ubuntu.com I think
[04:11] <Finalhazard> I just said it, /dev/sda2.
[04:11] <nickj6282> varchar: my drawbacks are mainly iPod and the need to program in VB for school
[04:11] <BlueEagle> stopher: I think that port should be open.
[04:11] <BlueEagle> stopher: try it.
[04:11] <varchar> well, im a java developer by default, and i need to use eclipse using ubuntu...anyone use it with?
[04:11] <Finalhazard> That's the mount point it says in the fdisk thing when I checked.
[04:11] <dlab> /media/something?
[04:11] <dlab> Finalhazard: open up a terminal, type "grep sda2 /etc/fstab" and paste the output
[04:11] <nickj6282> varchar: I don't do Java so no joy for me there, but I use Qemu to run Win2k for VB devel and I have a Mac now so iPod is all set too
[04:12] <ubuntu> varchar:  i see it here for download in synaptic
[04:12] <Finalhazard> Oh, yeah, /media/sda2 as well. I forgot about it.
[04:12] <ubuntu> so dont think u should have issues
[04:12] <dlab> ok
[04:12] <Finalhazard> For a second I thought you meant something else, sorry.
[04:12] <burnhamd> i need help with dpkg-divert can anyone help
[04:12] <varchar> ubuntu...then y ask? please elaborate
[04:12] <dlab> Finalhazard: I'm assuming your fonts are in /media/sda2/windows/fonts, correct?
[04:12] <Finalhazard> Yes.
[04:12] <ubuntu> varchar:  oh you said i'm asking in ubuntu
[04:13] <ubuntu> that is why i said
[04:13] <tyler_d> what could I use to check if a webcam is working??
[04:13] <bo1> Does anyone know why mplayer isn't available for me?  I think I have my multiverse repositories enabled as well.
[04:13] <bruenig> !info mplayer
[04:13] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[04:13] <ubuntu> varchar:  to ur statement ' does ubuntu have drawbacks"
[04:13] <bruenig> bo1, you must not have them enabled
[04:13] <Soccrmastr> bo1: did you search for mozilla-mplayer
[04:13] <Finalhazard> Do I just need to add a symbolic link to the font folder in Ubuntu, or something else?
[04:13] <bo1> I guess not.  I enabled all of them in synaptic
[04:13] <cracko> has anyone tried mania driver?
[04:14] <Adam_G> is there any way to manually edit apt's package lists?
[04:14] <Mighty_Ferguson> Is there anyone who can help me with network-manager? If there's a better channel for newbie questions, please let me know.
[04:14] <bruenig> bo1, you can install the deb from the online package thing
[04:14] <dlab> Finalhazard: cp -R /media/sda2/windows/fonts to /usr/X11R6/lib/fonts/Win
[04:14] <amicrawler> need help please !!!!!!!
[04:14] <bo1> mozilla-mplayer isn't there either
[04:14] <Finalhazard> Ah, ok.
[04:14] <nickj6282> amicrawler: just ask
[04:14] <varchar> Im sorry, maybe I should be in a linux n00b room or something, but I have never used linux, i recieved the boot disk and install in java developer mag
[04:14] <ubuntu> bo1: u can download it from mplayerhq.hu
[04:14] <bo1> bruenig - alright thanks
[04:14] <dlab> Finalhazard: then cd /usr/X11R6/lib/fonts/Win, and type "mkfontdir"
[04:14] <tyler_d> Mighty_Ferguson: if someone knows they will answer
[04:15] <BlueEagle> stopher: alternately you can publish it on esnips.com or photobucket.com (registration required)
[04:15] <hou5ton> ok ... i have totem and mplayer installed with the firefox extensions ... still won't play the video
[04:15] <bruenig> bo1, yeah you clearly don't have it enabled, but here is the link to the deb for mplayer http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/m/mplayer/mplayer_0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8_i386.deb
[04:15] <ubuntu> varchar:  we all start bro, chill out
[04:15] <ubuntu> dont worry :)
[04:15] <stopher> BlueEagle: i just took them, sendin now
[04:15] <nickj6282> be happy!
[04:15] <hou5ton> can someone else here using Ubuntu see if your system will play it
[04:15] <dlab> Finalhazard: then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add: FontPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/fonts/Win"
[04:15] <amicrawler> ok i'm looking for the webpage for ubunbtu repostisary  for debfiles
[04:15] <hou5ton> and then tell me how you did it?
[04:15] <nickj6282> ubuntu: now that song's in my head, thanks ;)
[04:15] <ubuntu> nickj6282:  lol
[04:15] <ubuntu> yes nice song ;)
[04:15] <varchar> i love the way ubuntu looks and i need to start getting familiar with the OS
[04:15] <bruenig> hou5ton, type about:plugins in the firefox address bar
[04:15] <dlab> Finalhazard: then run "xset fp +/usr/X11R6/lib/fonts/Win" as your user
[04:15] <mxpxpod> cafuego: ping?
[04:15] <Finalhazard> I just get a "cannot create file or directory" error when I try the first thing.
[04:15] <dlab> then "xset fp rehash"
[04:16] <nickj6282> now I have to go find it and listen, or I'm going to lose it
[04:16] <burnhamd> i give
[04:16] <cafuego> huh?
[04:16] <dlab> hmm
[04:16] <stopher> BlueEagle:
[04:16] <dlab> there is probably a GUI way to do this
[04:16] <amicrawler> some body sent me a link for mutivers and non-free and easy something all i had to do is copy and edit with kate
[04:16] <nickj6282> like when Eric Cartman listens to Styx
[04:16] <varchar> can i keep windows installed and not have to format my HD, and still partition and install
[04:16] <rast4> Anyone know why I can access a server share from ubuntu, but I can't access the contents of my XP machines.
[04:16] <ubuntu> varchar:  yes sir
[04:16] <nickj6282> varchar: yes you can
[04:16] <dlab> I don't use ubuntu as a desktop, so someone mind taking over? :P
[04:16] <bruenig> varchar, yes
[04:16] <ubuntu> varchar:  u an dual boot windows and linux
[04:16] <BlueEagle> stopher: The requests are getting to me just fine but I am unable to connect to your machine to initiate the transfer.
[04:16] <ubuntu> varchar:  install windows first
[04:16] <stopher> hmmm
[04:16] <stopher> hold on
[04:16] <nickj6282> varchar: also, check out Virtual PC for Windows, it's a free download, a developer's best friend
[04:16] <bruenig> varchar, unless you have an empty partition, you will have to resize the windows partition though
[04:17] <dlab> hmm
[04:17] <amicrawler> need help please !!!!!!!
[04:17] <amicrawler> some body sent me a link for mutivers and non-free and easy something all i had to do is copy and edit with kate
[04:17] <dlab> nickj6282: vmware works fine, too :)
[04:17] <BlueEagle> stopher: You need to open up some ports to allow dcc file transfers.
[04:17] <dlab> vmware seems to support more guest operating systems
[04:17] <dravas> What can you tell me about ex2 Filesystem like whats the max file size capable
[04:17] <dlab> from a generic linux 2.6 kernel to freebsd
[04:17] <haasteem> hi, i upgraded from breezy to dpaaer alst night and have a massive problem concerning my sound now... i've tried to solve it all day now, but haven't been able to resolve it... could somone please help me out?
[04:17] <hou5ton> bruenig:  they all say "Enabled"
[04:17] <varchar> ?
[04:17] <ubuntu> vmware is nice
[04:17] <stopher> holy cow, sorry about that! BlueEagle...
[04:17] <Soccrmastr> varchar: read the manuals that come with the Ubuntu OS I read all of the basic Wikis and the xubuntu manual I know a lot of the basics to get arund now. the documentation is much more helpful than the windows web documentaion 0_o
[04:17] <nickj6282> dlab: I tried VMware but I honestly prefer Virtual PC, one of the two pieces of software from Microsoft I really like
[04:17] <BlueEagle> stopher: np. :)
[04:17] <dlab> nickj6282: well, for one they didn't make it ;)
[04:17] <nickj6282> dlab: yes, true
[04:17] <BlueEagle> stopher: You could always email them to me.
[04:17] <stopher> okay lemme upload them somewhere
[04:18] <dlab> haven't really tried virtual pc, but it doesn't work on any of my computers
[04:18] <haasteem> geez, i mean dapper
[04:18] <bruenig> hou5ton, do you have everything though. does it have windows media player plugin listed and all of the others?
[04:18] <Krank_> I have XP on C: and Vista on G: (another partition on another drive). Vista's boot manager is running things now. If I were to install ubuntu on another partition would it work and triple-boot or what exactly?
[04:18] <stopher> sure you want to PM me your email BlueEagle?
[04:18] <bo1> the lines with multiverse in my /etc/apt/sources.list are uncommented though...
[04:18] <ubuntu> Krank_:  it will
[04:18] <bo1> and sudo apt-get install mplayer doesn't work.
[04:18] <nickj6282> Krank_: just make sure you've got everything in your grub.conf file and you're set
[04:18] <ubuntu> take of vista , it sucks :)
[04:18] <bruenig> bo1, post your sources.list on pastebin
[04:18] <nickj6282> ubuntu: I had vista for a week, what a joke
[04:18] <bruenig> your sources.list are at /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:18] <hou5ton> bruenig:  yes
[04:18] <Krank_> I'm not impressed with Vista, right
[04:18] <skaven`>  Godsmack - Releasing the Demons - 4m 12s 
[04:18] <bruenig> !paste
[04:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:18] <ubuntu> nickj6282:  u like it?
[04:18] <dravas> What can you tell me about ex2 Filesystem like whats the max file size capable
[04:18] <BlueEagle> stopher: You auto-replied me. :p
[04:18] <nickj6282> Vista is XP but unstable
[04:19] <bruenig> hou5ton, do you have the w32codecs installed?
[04:19] <haasteem> hi, i upgraded from breezy to dapper alst night and have a massive problem concerning my sound now... i've tried to solve it all day now, but haven't been able to resolve it... could somone please help me out?
[04:19] <Krank_> Vista's woes could be ubuntu's gain
[04:19] <ubuntu> nickj6282:  it is microshit :)
[04:19] <nickj6282> XP can do everything Vista can, and sucks slightly less
[04:19] <bruenig> !language
[04:19] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:19] <ubuntu> sorry did i say anything wrong?
[04:19] <Soccrmastr> lol
[04:19] <hou5ton> bruenig:  well.... I thought so ... how could I check?
[04:19] <dravas> What can you tell me about ex2 Filesystem like whats the max file size capable
[04:20] <moonunit> is there a way i can navigate to a hardrive on a network and save to it
[04:20] <tim> There is something wrong with gok!
[04:20] <bruenig> vista has transparency guys, that is so great no other OS has ever had... oh well linux has for quite a while
[04:20] <ubuntu> nickj6282:  vista is a system hogger, aint it?
[04:20] <hou5ton> bruenig:  I thought I took care of that with EasyUbuntu
[04:20] <dlab> dazvid: 2TiB
[04:20] <Krank_> nick, so if I install will XP and ubuntu be ready to go right off the bat?
[04:20] <dlab> depending on the program
[04:20] <dlab> most run with O_LARGEFILE
[04:20] <dazvid> excuse me?
[04:20] <catadoxas> hey guys a question... if i set up a vm machine on microsoft windows
[04:20] <dlab> er
[04:20] <Soccrmastr> someone cursed in #easyubuntu the other day, and got a big lecture on the mission of Ubuntu and the ubuntu code and aim, and how you should never curse, it was pretty funny :/
[04:20] <dlab> bad tab completion
[04:20] <dravas> Vista is useless
[04:20] <dlab> sorry :P
[04:20] <dazvid> lol
[04:20] <dazvid> np
[04:20] <sbalneav> dravas: http://web.mit.edu/tytso/www/linux/ext2intro.html
[04:20] <nickj6282> ubuntu: not as bad as I thought, but it kept turning Aero on and off while running, on an AMD64 1.8 Ghz with 1.5GB RAM and 128mb video
[04:20] <catadoxas> copy the dir and change the vmx file
[04:21] <Anderson> bruenig, Has vista been released?
[04:21] <dlab> dravas: 2TiB
[04:21] <bruenig> hou5ton, not sure if that installs it or not probably does, here is a deb of w32codecs just open it with gdebi, if it is in fact installed already it wont install http://debian-multimedia.org.nyud.net:8080/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[04:21] <catadoxas> will it work on linux
[04:21] <catadoxas> ?
[04:21] <nickj6282> which is well over the minimum specs
[04:21] <Anderson> has vista been released?
[04:21] <bruenig> Anderson, betas, the real one not until early '07
[04:21] <ubuntu> nickj6282:  wow 1.5 gb ram
[04:21] <ubuntu> thats nice system u got there bro
[04:21] <bo1> I use vista, just because its free
[04:21] <ubuntu> vista is free?
[04:21] <ubuntu> lol
[04:21] <nickj6282> my present to myself
[04:21] <Soccrmastr> lol wow
[04:21] <Anderson> That's a good time frame. I hope it's on schedule this time.
[04:21] <bo1> ubuntu - yeah, heh. fre beta
[04:21] <hou5ton> bruenig:  what do you mean, "open it with gdebi"  ??
[04:21] <bruenig> Anderson, it is already been pushed backed a few times
[04:22] <haasteem> ubuntu: i talked to you briefly earlier today, i'm still stuck...
[04:22] <moonunit> i need to save this torrent to a remote computer, can someone help me do it?
[04:22] <Soccrmastr> soon as beta is over you're gonna probably have to pay around 400 bucks
[04:22] <Adam_G> well, if anyone knows how to fix a broken apt... lemme know...
[04:22] <ubuntu> haasteem:  ye i remember ur name
[04:22] <bo1> Soccrmastr - no, I'll just uninstall
[04:22] <ubuntu> i forgot the problem though
[04:22] <Krank_> Yeah, don't know Vista's price.
[04:22] <ubuntu> sorry
[04:22] <ubuntu> what was it?
[04:22] <Soccrmastr> My current PC doesnt even meet all Vista standards
[04:22] <bruenig> hou5ton, when you click on that link it should give you an option that says open with gdebi if you are in firefox at least it generally does for me
[04:22] <Krank_> Well, off to install it then.
[04:22] <bo1> I've got everything I care about on another partition
[04:22] <haasteem> ubuntu: i have a problem with my sound
[04:22] <varchar> IF anyone has a free minute i want to get ubuntu up and running but i have a few installation questions that I cant find in help docs, please PM me if you can
[04:22] <Soccrmastr> a lot of people are going to have to upgrade
[04:22] <Soccrmastr> especially gamers
[04:22] <ubuntu> Soccrmastr:  same here i ahev 256 ram
[04:22] <ubuntu> lol
[04:22] <dlab> "Vista. It's time to upgrade your PC. Trust us."
[04:22] <dlab> remember seeing that somewhere :P
[04:22] <natural20> I'm on breezy bader.  I want to upgrade firefox to v1.5.  I can't upgrade ubuntu, because server X fails upon upgrade (and I have tried a million things to fix it)   can someone help me upgrade firefox?
[04:22] <bruenig> hou5ton, if it doesn't then save it to disk, open up a terminal and do sudo dpkg -i /path/to/w32codecsblahblahblah.deb
[04:23] <ubuntu> haasteem:  did u try to reinstall alsa?
[04:23] <haasteem> ubuntu: i think i tried everything to get it resolved, but nothing...
[04:23] <haasteem> ubuntu: yes
[04:23] <Soccrmastr> well, the problem is with my video card. doesnt have a pixel shader, and that ahs been a problem for me in the past with playing video games. couldnt even run lego star wars, but ran doom 3 with no lag lol weird :/
[04:23] <ubuntu> aumix too?
[04:23] <phargle> yum salsa
[04:23] <haasteem> i followed the guide that is posted in ubuntuforums
[04:23] <haasteem> ubuntu: i followed the guide that is posted in ubuntuforums
[04:23] <tim> does anyone know about gok?
[04:23] <Fernand1> Hello
[04:23] <dravas> Shoot how to download a File that is 4 GB plus in Linux
[04:23] <bo1> Soccrmastr - that's because carmack is a good coder
[04:23] <nickj6282> dravas: bittorrent if you can
[04:23] <bruenig> bittorrent is the best
[04:23] <ubuntu> tim: gnome onscreen keyboard?
[04:23] <dravas> yer
[04:23] <bruenig> no md5sum check either
[04:23] <Fernand1> varchar:  Talk to me in private chat
[04:24] <haasteem> ubuntu: aumix?
[04:24] <dlab> dravas: should work fine, what are you using to download the file?
[04:24] <tim> yes
[04:24] <ubuntu> haasteem:  ys aumix
[04:24] <dravas> I mean I have a file that is 4GB+
[04:24] <Fernand1> what is the name of the CD drive in ubuntu?
[04:24] <dravas> I'm using Bittorrent
[04:24] <Fernand1> I'm used to "d:/"
[04:24] <phargle> dravas: no way thats unheard of
[04:24] <bruenig> cdrom#
[04:24] <dravas> gah
[04:24] <bruenig> or so it is for me
[04:24] <haasteem> ubuntu: i don't seem to have that
[04:24] <Fernand1> k
[04:24] <Fernand1> so
[04:24] <Fernand1> cd cdrom# will work in terminal?
[04:24] <ubuntu> haasteem:  u need it , install it
[04:24] <dravas> shoot
[04:24] <dravas> This sucks
[04:24] <moonunit> i need to save a torrent file to a remote computer, is there a way that i could do that?
[04:24] <ubuntu> haasteem:  after u install it , run it
[04:24] <nickj6282> what sucks?
[04:24] <haasteem> ubuntu: ok, one moment
[04:25] <ubuntu> tim:  no idea , just read the name
[04:25] <ubuntu> sorry bro
[04:25] <Fernand1> cdrom#: no such file or directory
[04:25] <bruenig> Fernand1, the number sign is actually a number, it depends on how many drives you have, I have two the first is called cdrom0 and the second is called cdrom1
[04:25] <ubuntu> never played with it
[04:25] <Fernand1> oh
[04:25] <Fernand1> okay
[04:25] <Fernand1> thank you
[04:25] <bruenig> Fernand1, do cd /media/cdrom0, that probably works
[04:25] <ubuntufreak> Does anybody know how to get music from my windows computer to play in ubuntu?
[04:25] <Fernand1> thank you :)
[04:25] <dravas> I really need to download a File that is 4GB+ and I cant do it in Windows because I cant get Lan Drivers for the Internet
[04:26] <bo1> bruenig - pastebin.com has been timing out, so I switched to rafb - http://rafb.net/paste/results/OFDRQH44.html
[04:26] <ubuntu> btw hi Soccrmastr
[04:26] <natural20> 'm on breezy bader.  I want to upgrade firefox to v1.5.  I can't upgrade ubuntu, because server X fails upon upgrade (and I have tried a million things to fix it)   can someone help me upgrade firefox?
[04:26] <bo1> should be a normal sources.list file
[04:26] <p47> come on help me Gays !
[04:26] <Soccrmastr> hi lol
[04:26] <Soccrmastr> lol
[04:26] <bo1> Generated or edited by synaptic I believe
[04:26] <haasteem> ubuntu: it doesn't work
[04:26] <ubuntu> haasteem:  what error?
[04:26] <haasteem> ubuntu: it gives an error
[04:26] <snoops> dravas what's the problem?
[04:27] <haasteem> ubuntu: error opening mixer
[04:27] <ubuntufreak> p47: nobody is helping me either
[04:27] <sbalneav> p47: You haven't asked your question yet
[04:27] <bruenig> bo1, add these lines
[04:27] <bruenig> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiverse
[04:27] <bruenig> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiverse
[04:27] <Ropechoborra> Hi, how do i change the animated screen that shows up wile loading linux
[04:27] <ubuntu> haasteem:  open synaptic , uninstall zumix if it is ther
[04:27] <Soccrmastr> lol everyone has to ask a question
[04:27] <varchar> Ferndand1: i sent a request to chat in private
[04:27] <n3rdism> anyone know a good prog to rip dvd's into mpeg or similar?
[04:27] <ubuntu> then reinstall the new 1
[04:27] <moonunit> how do i save a file to a remote computer via a windows network?
[04:27] <Judo> this is suse or ubuntu ? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=3&id=43767&file1=43767-1.jpg&file2=43767-2.jpg&file3=43767-3.jpg&name=Candido+Selected+%284+Compiz%29
[04:27] <sbalneav> ubuntufreak: what kind of music?  Google easyubuntu
[04:27] <ubuntu> n3rdism:  dvd shrink?
[04:28] <haasteem> ubuntu: zumix, i didn't have it
[04:28] <tim> when start gok, I get an error.
[04:28] <dravas> snoops I just thought that Fat32 had a 4GB Filesize limit and thats the only place I can save it and it is a 4GB+ file
[04:28] <ardchoille> !info zoomix
[04:28] <snoops> moonunit places>connect to server>windows share
[04:28] <ubotu> Package zoomix does not exist in dapper
[04:28] <ubuntu> haasteem:  it is aumix
[04:28] <Soccrmastr> ropechobora: Im not sure on ubuntu but I am using xubuntu and under settings there is an option called splash screen settings
[04:28] <ubuntufreak> sbalneav: music ripped in windows media player
[04:28] <p47> Soccrmastr , sbalneav,  ubuntufreak:  I have one problem, now I have a dell multimedia key board, but Just I can see one howto about the configuration, but the problem es that is in french
[04:28] <ubuntu> not zumix
[04:28] <ardchoille> !info zumix
[04:28] <ubotu> Package zumix does not exist in dapper
[04:28] <lecaros> anyone have experience using handycam as webcam on ubuntu?
[04:28] <Soccrmastr> p47: google translator?
[04:28] <bo1> bruenig - cool! thanks
[04:28] <n3rdism> ubuntu: isnt that just an image of it?
[04:28] <Anderson> bruenig, I know. The organization I work for hired an external network adminstration agency. Part of their contract is to remain within 2 releases of the last stabe Microsoft release. Right now we are on windows 2000, when vista is release the network will be switched to XP. There are already many problems with this company, and the switch is going to be a disaster, which hopefully means they will lose their contract.
[04:28] <Ropechoborra> Judo that is Ubuntu
[04:28] <sbalneav> ubuntufreak: google for easyubuntu
[04:28] <haasteem> ubuntu: oh, so you want to to just uninstall it again?
[04:28] <snoops> dravas oh right.. well yeah, because fat32 is shockingly crap. Why can't you save it to your ext3 partition?
[04:29] <ubuntu> haasteem:  yes the new 1 that is there
[04:29] <Soccrmastr> ubuntufreak: or join #easyubuntu on this server
[04:29] <p47> Soccrmastr: yes I know, but google dosn't trastale very well, that is the problem.
[04:29] <Soccrmastr> oh, well hmm I'm not sure about it then sorry
[04:29] <moonunit> snoops, i have a .torrent file, i need to save the resulting file to a remote, is there a way to navigate to it?
[04:29] <dravas> So snoops ex3 Supports 4GB + Files?
[04:29] <Ropechoborra> Hi, how do i change the animated screen that shows up wile loading linux?
[04:29] <ubuntufreak> sbalneav: what is easyubuntu
[04:29] <Ropechoborra> !easyubuntu
[04:29] <siXy> p47 - there are french irc channels and forums... try them
[04:29] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:29] <ubuntu> moonunit:  scp
[04:29] <moonunit> ubuntu, ?
[04:29] <n3rdism> anyone know a good prog to rip dvd's into mpeg or similar?
[04:30] <BrokenSegue> everytime my computer boots into ubuntu after booting into windows I get this "file system contains errors" message and it has to scan (I do work off my ubuntu HD from XP), any suggestions or explanations?
[04:30] <snoops> dravas uh huh.. what'd you install ubuntu on?
[04:30] <nutshell42> n3rdism: dvd:rip
[04:30] <haasteem> ok, i removed aumix
[04:30] <bruenig> !info dvdrip
[04:30] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.52.5-0.0 (dapper), package size 365 kB, installed size 1656 kB
[04:30] <sbalneav> ubuntufreak: Google can tell you that. :) It will install all the restrictedformat bits you need to play windows media files.
[04:30] <haasteem> ubuntu: ok, i removed aumix
[04:30] <bruenig> never used it but from its name sounds good
[04:30] <n3rdism> ty
[04:30] <p47> siXy, thank's I'll try in those channels
[04:30] <varchar> now i have windows installed, can i partition my hd without uninstalling and formatting the hd so i can put ubuntu on it?
[04:30] <ubuntufreak> sbalneav: can you tell me where to go to find it - I have a very slow connection
[04:30] <dravas> snoops I have Ubuntu on a ex3 partition
[04:31] <ubuntu> varchar:  yes
[04:31] <bruenig> varchar, yes, you can do all of that within the ubuntu live/install cd
[04:31] <Ropechoborra> varchar with Partition Magic you can
[04:31] <ubuntu> varchar:  backup data to be on safe side :)
[04:31] <sbalneav> I don't know off the top of my head.  Go to www.google.com, and search for "easyubuntu"
[04:31] <Ropechoborra> varchar or the Ubuntu live CD, it has a tool called GPARTED
[04:31] <moonunit> snoops, any ideas?
[04:31] <ubuntu> moonunit:  hi
[04:32] <ubuntu> moonunit:  u wana transfer file to a remot epc/
[04:32] <ubuntu> pc*
[04:32] <varchar> i have no friggin clue what the hell im doing
[04:32] <haasteem> ubuntu: what could i try next?
[04:32] <siXy> does anyone here use bind9 on ubuntu server? having rndc issuses.
[04:32] <ubuntu> haasteem:  reinstall new 1
[04:32] <moonunit> ubuntu,  i have a .torrent file, i need to save the resulting file to a remote, is there a way to navigate to it?
[04:32] <varchar> I saw that when I went to the install...I had the opportunity to partition i believe on step 5, but i didnt want to screw anything up especially because I didnt have anything backed up
[04:32] <snoops> moonunit ah right, yeah I do that quite a bit too.. okay you'll want to mount the drive properly..create a folder first, say torrents in /media.. so "sudo mkdir /media/torrents"
[04:32] <haasteem> ubuntu: by the way, i followed this guide earlier on: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[04:32] <ubuntu> why not download it to locl system then scp it?
[04:33] <phargle> varchar: assume you're going to screw it up
[04:33] <sbalneav> moonunit: do you have an account on the remote machine?
[04:33] <phargle> (i do)
[04:33] <dravas> snoops I have Ubuntu on a ex3 partition
[04:33] <haasteem> ubuntu: a new aumix?
[04:33] <ubuntu> haasteem:  yes
[04:33] <ubuntu> haasteem:  u had updated right?
[04:33] <moonunit> snoops, ubuntu, sbalneav meet me in #moonunit (less crowded
[04:33] <stopher2> hello BlueEagle:
[04:33] <sbalneav> Nope, staying here for me.
[04:33] <stopher2> BlueEagle: ouch! that hurt!
[04:33] <BlueEagle> stopher2: :)
[04:33] <sbalneav> Someone else wants to follow, go ahead.
[04:34] <BlueEagle> stopher2: Where did you run off to?
[04:34] <haasteem> ubuntu: i upgraded from breezy (in which ewverything worked) to dapper (no sound)
[04:34] <varchar> i pretty much feel like im going to screw something up...
[04:34] <HeathenDan> how come my monitor "sleeps" even though i didn't set power mgmt or screensaver on?
[04:34] <stopher2> i'm here...doing image upload. stopher ran away...
[04:34] <varchar> i know partition magic works, but that is not freeware right?
[04:34] <BlueEagle> heathendan: did you spesifically set them off (they should be on by default iirc)
[04:34] <haasteem> ubuntu: just before the end of the upgrade i was forced to abort becasue of an error... and now i'm in some trouble
[04:34] <ubuntufreak> sbalneav: Thank You - I will try it
[04:35] <snoops> moonunit after that, you can mount the drive assuming you have smbfs installed.. to make sure type "sudo apt-get install smbfs" then type "sudo mount -t smbfs //remotecomputername/sharename /media/torrents -o username=usernamehere,password=passwordhere,dmask=777,fmask=777
[04:35] <stopher2> BlueEagle: i'm surprise stopher hasn't pinged out yet...i am the same person as stopher though
[04:35] <BlueEagle> stopher2: Ahh I see.
[04:35] <stopher2> BlueEagle: :)
[04:35] <HeathenDan> how do i set them off manually? i just slid the thingie to never in pwr mgmt
[04:35] <snoops> dravas then download the file to ext3.. it can handle over 4gb files
[04:35] <bruenig> varchar, don't use partition magic, it is garbage, when I used to dual boot, I used it initially and everytime I installed ubuntu and then booted into windows and tried to use it. It would error and would close
[04:35] <dravas> Thanks snoops
[04:35] <BlueEagle> stopher2: Perhaps you better upload those images somwhere. The mail doesn't seem to want to arrive. Mihgt be a restriction on the size or something.
[04:35] <snoops> dravas and if you need to access that file from windows, you can use the ext2 driver for windows..
[04:36] <snoops> which it at http://fs-driver.org or something like that
[04:36] <dravas> I have it installed
[04:36] <stopher2> BlueEagle: imageshack or whatever says that its uploading the pics now
[04:36] <moonunit> snoops,
[04:36] <stopher2> BlueEagle: ill yell at you when i know the URL lol
[04:36] <BlueEagle> snoops: "the ext2 driver" or "one of the ext2 drivers"?
[04:36] <varchar> bruenig: what do you suggest doing then? any links how to do it?
[04:36] <moonunit> snoops, this is a windows xp home machine, i have no password on it,
[04:36] <BlueEagle> stopher2: You are cleard for /msgs :)
[04:36] <natural20> 'm on breezy bader.  I want to upgrade firefox to v1.5.  I can't upgrade ubuntu, because server X fails upon upgrade (and I have tried a million things to fix it)   can someone help me upgrade firefox?
[04:37] <snoops> moonunit, k, then don't put anything for username or password.. leave out the username=usernameblah,password=passwordblah
[04:37] <m0> hi
[04:37] <snoops> but keep dmask and fmask
[04:37] <bruenig> varchar, I am sure there are plenty. The best way I think to do would be to put in the live cd. When you get in come to this channel through gaim, which is on the live cd and have somebody here help you through it. Also before you do that make sure you defrag your windows drive.
[04:37] <m0> I installed Flash plugin for mozilla
[04:37] <moonunit> snoops, well im having trouble figuring out how you want me to do this
[04:37] <moonunit> should i put like
[04:37] <nopcode> gaim??
[04:37] <BlueEagle> m0: Congrats.
[04:37] <m0> and when I view a page with flash, the window closes automatically
[04:38] <BlueEagle> m0: ohh.. that's not good.
[04:38] <m0> BlueEagle: What shall I do
[04:38] <haasteem> ubuntu: i re-installed aumix, but it still gives the same error...
[04:38] <Krankily> back in the middle of the install.. How should I set up the partitions? I don't want the auto creation of partitions to zap a partition. I have a 46gb partition, 1 gig of ram
[04:38] <snoops> moonunit did you do the other steps I mentioned before? if so then just type "sudo mount -t smbfs //remotecomputernamehere/sharenamehere /media/torrents -o fmask=777,dmask=777"
[04:38] <bruenig> Krankily, manually edit the partition table
[04:38] <moonunit> snoops, //Network/Windows Network/mshome/HOME/F ???
[04:38] <BlueEagle> m0: My advice (which does not fix your problem at all) is to use Opera. :) (same goes to natural20 btw)
[04:38] <snoops> no..
[04:39] <Krankily> I'm in the middle of it now.. I'm guessing I need a /, home and swap?
[04:39] <bruenig> opera = closed source
[04:39] <snoops> moonunit your windows box has a name.. or an ip address by which you can access it on the network
[04:39] <varchar> when i get to the step to partition during the install off the boot disk, i have an option to resize the master partition, ive read that i should defrag a few times before trying this option...my questions is...
[04:39] <m0> i refuse using opera since its closed source
[04:39] <natural20> !opera
[04:39] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[04:39] <m0> !firefox
[04:39] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:39] <m0> !flash
[04:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:39] <BlueEagle> bruenig: Yes it is. I still find it to be a better browser than Firefox.
[04:39] <varchar> will it partition all the free space? leaving no free space on the old partition?
[04:39] <moonunit> snoops, i have no idea.
[04:39] <nopcode> its better but its nonfree
[04:40] <siXy> !rndc
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rndc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <snoops> moonunit got access to the windows box now?
[04:40] <siXy> no didnt htink so :/
[04:40] <m0> I really don't understand why flash closed it
[04:40] <moonunit> snoops, yeah, what should i write down?
[04:40] <hou5ton> bruenig:  still here?   I have the codes and the plugin's are installed
[04:40] <hou5ton> still ... won't play videpo
[04:40] <m0> i downloaded flash from the website
[04:40] <BlueEagle> m0: You won't use Opera because it's closed source but you still want flash? Seems to me that someones ideals are inconsisten. ;)
[04:41] <Soccrmastr> hou5ton: what are you trying to do, what plugins do you need ? and are they fo firefox?
[04:41] <snoops> moonunit go to control panel then open system.. from there click the computer name tab
[04:41] <hou5ton> I'm just trying to see a video on cnn.com
[04:41] <Soccrmastr> hou5ton: because easyubuntu, and mozilla-mplayer should give you all the plugins you need
[04:41] <bruenig> hou5ton, give me a link to what's not working
[04:41] <moonunit> snoops, be right back then.
[04:41] <m0> hou5ton: CNN is bad
[04:41] <HeathenDan> <3 Opera
[04:41] <siXy> m0: flash sounds like it has a problem. uninstall it and try again following the how-to
[04:41] <hou5ton> cnn is not bad .. why would you say that
[04:41] <Soccrmastr> m0: yes I like fox news, fair and balanced ;)
[04:41] <snoops> moonunit also you'll need to share the folder you want to place torrents
[04:42] <m0> siXy: But I don't know how to Uninstall it
[04:42] <trygg_> Uhm, how do search a file?
[04:42] <m0> - Uncompress install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz. A directory called install_flash_player_7_linux is created. Navigate to this directory.
[04:42] <m0> I followed that ^^
[04:42] <varchar> so i obviously dont want to erase the whole disk, or manually edit the partition table..so i should choose to resize the master partition??
[04:42] <tyler_d> webcam installation?
[04:42] <willys_fueguino> If I have xorg then I have xfree right??
[04:42] <bruenig> don't use that tar.gz, use the repo thing
[04:42] <bruenig> they are the same but the one in the repo is easier
[04:43] <bruenig> and is tracked
[04:43] <hou5ton> Soccrmastr:  bruenig:  here's the link ... go about halfway down and you'll see a list of video's  http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/18/carroll.part.5/index.html
[04:43] <willys_fueguino> If I have xorg then I have xfree right??
[04:43] <BlueEagle> m0: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/internet.html#web-browsing <= I think that is "the better way"(tm)
[04:43] <hou5ton> Soccrmastr:  bruenig:  try to watch the one "Captors showed Carrol the truth
[04:43] <siXy> m0 thats probably why it doesnt work. you need to install from the ubuntu repo
[04:43] <bruenig> hou5ton, works for me
[04:43] <willys_fueguino> @search x-free
[04:43] <Ubugtu> There were no matching configuration variables.
[04:43] <hou5ton> bruenig:  using what?
[04:43] <Soccrmastr> it uses windows media player
[04:44] <willys_fueguino> If I have xorg then I have xfree right??
[04:44] <hou5ton> Soccrmastr:  yes
[04:44] <Soccrmastr> LOL not even working for me, and this PC is using windows
[04:44] <hou5ton> I'm assuming you are on Ubuntu ... of course it works on windows
[04:44] <Soccrmastr> well, hou5on do you know if all your repositories are enabled?
[04:44] <hou5ton> yes
[04:44] <willys_fueguino> hou5ton: you talked to me??
[04:44] <hou5ton> Soccrmastr:  yes the are
[04:44] <chops-> how can i change the su pass from the recovery root prompt ?
[04:44] <bruenig> it uses this plugin, mplayerplug-in-wmp.so
[04:44] <Soccrmastr> no its not workign for em on windows, I screwed it up with beetas of windows mplayer
[04:44] <BlueEagle> chops-: su or sudo?
[04:44] <chops-> su
[04:44] <siXy> chops sudo passwd
[04:45] <bruenig> hou5ton, do ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins and make sure that file is in there
[04:45] <Soccrmastr> ok, go to your terminal, try sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[04:45] <hou5ton> ok
[04:45] <bruenig> Soccrmastr, he already did that
[04:45] <BlueEagle> chops-: I assume you tried passwd already. Which error did it give?
[04:45] <Soccrmastr> oh lol
[04:45] <m0> where is the plugins for mozilla stored
[04:45] <crimsun> haasteem: cat /proc/asound/cards
[04:45] <hou5ton> bruenig:  yes ... it is there
[04:46] <bruenig> m0, /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[04:46] <willys_fueguino> If I have xorg then I have xfree right??
[04:46] <stopher2> BlueEagle: After you look at those pics in yer PM you'll notice I need to get some compressed air on that sucker LOL
[04:46] <crimsun> willys_fueguino: no.
[04:46] <compilerwriter> Anyone know of an email client that will allow me to only delete, from the server, the messages I trash in my inbox?
[04:46] <BlueEagle> willys_fueguino: No. Xorg and Xfree are bothe X11 servers.
[04:46] <m0> bruenig: thanx
[04:46] <BlueEagle> willys_fueguino: If you've got one of the two first then you've got the last.
[04:46] <haasteem> crimsun: --- no soundcards ---
[04:46] <haasteem> crimsun: lspci recognizes it though
[04:46] <crimsun> haasteem: lspci -n |grep -i audio
[04:46] <bruenig> hou5ton, should work then, the only other thing I could suggest which solved some headaches for me is creating a symbolic link to the plugins in your .mozilla directory as sometimes plugins are stored there and firefox or other browsers will only look there
[04:47] <crimsun> haasteem: sorry, lspci -v |grep -i audio
[04:47] <willys_fueguino> BlueEagle: how can I compile thje DRI kernel module??
[04:47] <siXy> rndc: connect failed: connection refused
[04:47] <BlueEagle> willys_fueguino: I do not think you need to. But if you insist on doing that you will need the build-essential package.
[04:47] <BlueEagle> willys_fueguino: Why do you want to compile a DRI module?
[04:47] <bruenig> hou5ton, do cd ~/.mozilla, then do ls, to make sure there is no plugins subdirectory in that directory
[04:47] <siXy> anyone know how to fix this in ubuntu server?
[04:48] <haasteem> crimsun: 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[04:48] <BlueEagle> willys_fueguino: (read the above as: Which graphics card have you got?)
[04:48] <haasteem> crimsun: do you want dmesg output?
[04:48] <crimsun> haasteem: sure, as well as lsmod output
[04:48] <willys_fueguino> BlueEagle: its for a friend who has a savage
[04:49] <moonunit> snoops, got it
[04:49] <moonunit> what now?
[04:49] <hou5ton> bruenig:  all that is listed there is "firefox" in a blue colored font, and "mozver.dat"
[04:49] <m0> :(
[04:49] <haasteem> crimsun: one moment
[04:49] <BlueEagle> willys_fueguino: I would think that the savage module is already compiled for xorg tbh.
[04:49] <m0> How do I remove Firefox?
[04:49] <snoops> moonunit have you shared a folder for torrents to go on that drive?
[04:49] <m0> How do I remove firefox and reinstall it?
[04:49] <bruenig> hou5ton, ok do ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[04:49] <bruenig> m0, sudo apt-get remove firefox, sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:50] <siXy> is there a support channel for ubuntu server btw?
[04:50] <moonunit> snoops, all of the drives on this computer are shared
[04:50] <snoops> k
[04:50] <hou5ton> bruenig:  from that .mozilla directory
[04:50] <m0> okay
[04:50] <bruenig> hou5ton, yes, you must be in that directory
[04:50] <snoops> then it's just as I said, assuming you did the steps I told you before about creating a folder and getting smbfs..
[04:50] <BlueEagle> willys_fueguino: http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:wseFDOd9MowJ:doc.gwos.org/index.php/Special:Random+ubuntu+savage&hl=no&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=opera seem like a good guide.
[04:50] <Jbirk> Anyone heard of dell laptops exploding?
[04:50] <m0> bruenig: where do you recommend me to install the flashplayer. Where should ?I get it. I got it from adobe website
[04:50] <BlueEagle> willys_fueguino: however I am not sure it's accurate.
[04:51] <hou5ton> bruenig:  done
[04:51] <BlueEagle> willys_fueguino: was the first thing I found when googling "ubuntu savage"
[04:51] <snoops> moonunit type in terminal "sudo mount -t smbfs //remotecomputernamehere/sharenamehere /media/torrents -o fmask=777,dmask=777"
[04:51] <Soccrmastr> whats a good application for Xubuntu that has a user-friednly UI for easily conencting to new wifi access points?
[04:51] <Sirrush> Yup Jbirk  I think on Dell's website you can look up your battery by serial number and see if you are effected
[04:51] <bruenig> m0, you can use that, it doesn't really matter, I like to have everything tracked with apt and such. Much nicer system that way. I did sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree which does the same thing as the adobe installer
[04:51] <bruenig> hou5ton, try now
[04:51] <bruenig> that site
[04:51] <BlueEagle> willys_fueguino: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Dri_savage_cards would be the short hand link :)
[04:51] <Ych> !mouse
[04:51] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[04:51] <Warbo> What release would a kernel 2.6.10 be for?
[04:51] <m0> bruenig: Thank you
[04:52] <dlab> !boot
[04:52] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[04:52] <haasteem> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21052
[04:52] <willys_fueguino> BlueEagle: My friend get this "The DRI drivers can not be installed without the latest kernel modules" trying to install  savage-20060403-linux.i386.tar.bz2
[04:53] <hou5ton> bruenig:  as before ... I get the following warning:  Totem could not play 'fd://0'.      Only a subtitle stream was detected. Either you are loading a subtitle file or some other type of text file, or the media file was not recognized.
[04:53] <moonunit> snoops, it returned
[04:53] <BlueEagle> willys_fueguino: did you read the link I posted for you? http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Dri_savage_cards ?
[04:53] <Raptor316> #boardracing
[04:53] <bruenig> hou5ton, oh, if only you had given me that error earlier
[04:53] <moonunit> snoops, so i guess it worked, what now?
[04:53] <Raptor316> oops :)
[04:53] <hou5ton> bruenig:  somehow I knew that was coming ... UGH ... sorry
[04:53] <Soccrmastr> hou5ton, I think its because easyubuntu installed that totem thing and theyre conflicting now
[04:53] <bruenig> hou5ton, you need to uninstall the totem-plugin, it is trying to use that and not the mplayer plugin
[04:53] <snoops> moonunit browse to that folder..
[04:53] <m0> ahh
[04:53] <Soccrmastr> yeah
[04:54] <willys_fueguino> BlueEagle: Doing that
[04:54] <m0> bruenig: flashplayer-plugin does not exist
[04:54] <m0> bruenig: libflash-mozplugin - GPL Flash (SWF) Library - Mozilla-compatible plugin
[04:54] <bruenig> m0, yeah you have to enable some repos for it
[04:54] <m0> would that be okay ?
[04:54] <bruenig> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[04:54] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[04:54] <moonunit> snoops,
[04:54] <bruenig> it is in multiverse
[04:54] <m0> hmm, how do I enable that reprosotory
[04:54] <moonunit> snoops, soorry, too fast on the enter key
[04:54] <bruenig> !repos
[04:54] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:55] <moonunit> snoops, it worked, but now for a whole new problem, the FS on this disc is FAT32, how do i go about getting it to allow me to write to it?
[04:55] <BlueEagle> for an athlon xp should I use the k7 or the i686 kernel module?
[04:55] <HeathenDan> i used k7
[04:55] <HeathenDan> dunno if it improved it any
[04:55] <crimsun> haasteem: and /proc/interrupts?
[04:55] <hou5ton> bruenig:  ok ... i'm in Synaptic ... when I click on "Totem" and then right-click, I have a couple options ... 1. Mark for removal, or 2. Mark for complete removal
[04:55] <stopher2> BlueEagle: anythign?
[04:56] <BlueEagle> stopher2: ?
[04:56] <snoops> moonunit your xp box handles that.. it's sharing the drive over the network via samba.. you're using samba to connect to it..
[04:56] <haasteem> crimsun: one moment
[04:56] <BlueEagle> stopher2: I am still waiting for a link to the uploaded images.
[04:56] <stopher2> BlueEagle: I sent you those pics in your pm
[04:56] <stopher> yay! i got my nick back!
[04:56] <snoops> you litterally should just be able to copy files to that folder straight away moonunit
[04:56] <moonunit> snoops, yeah, i understand taht
[04:56] <BlueEagle> stopher: oh...
[04:56] <philippe_> qadesh /msg nickserv identify manuzzi
[04:56] <bruenig> hou5ton, you should mark totem-xine-firefox-plugin, I think that is what it is called, I got rid of totem immediately so never used it. Mark it for complete removal.
[04:56] <Jbirk> Dell laptop exploded
[04:56] <Jbirk> have you heard about that?
[04:56] <moonunit> snoops, lemmie try it again
[04:56] <snoops> moonunit why?
[04:56] <bruenig> check what it says when you say completely remove. Make sure it doesn't uninstall something you want before you hit apply
[04:56] <BlueEagle> stopher: I must have closed that window by mistake. Please /msg the url again. :)
[04:57] <stopher> np
[04:57] <hou5ton> bruenig:  actually .. it never installed the xine plugin ... it's the gstreamer one
[04:57] <moonunit> snoops, to make sure that your wrong
[04:57] <haasteem> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21053
[04:57] <bruenig> hou5ton, ok the gstreamer then
[04:57] <phiberglaz> hello
[04:57] <stopher> BlueEagle: You have PM
[04:57] <erdrick> ok so i read a wiki that told me to copy the previous radeon driver libGL.so.1.2. over the old one... how do i find the old one?
[04:57] <snoops> moonunit when you did sudo mount.. you didn't get any errors right?
[04:57] <SushiK> Jbirk: I just checked my laptop battery from dell on the list of exploders.. thankfully mines not
[04:57] <BlueEagle> stopher: ehh.. no I don't o.O
[04:57] <moonunit> snoops, no errors
[04:58] <moonunit> still doesent work though.
[04:58] <phiberglaz> hello, what app was used to make the ubuntu.com website?
[04:58] <stopher> BlueEagle: you need to PM me first, i am unregged here... so you have to initiate contacty
[04:58] <snoops> moonunit and if you go to that folder.. /media/torrents on your box, and try to copy something to it, what happens?
[04:58] <hou5ton> bruenig:  TOTALLY
[04:58] <hou5ton> mplayer works fine now
[04:58] <moonunit> snoops, i dont have permissions
[04:58] <bruenig> hou5ton, good
[04:58] <m0> how do I add this to the reprosotory ?
[04:58] <m0> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/web/flashplugin-nonfree.html
[04:58] <crimsun> haasteem: your sound device was never allocated resources, so the driver can't function correctly
[04:58] <stopher> BlueEagle: LOL i will reg
[04:58] <bruenig> m0, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-a86dddc6826cec4a3847d8441b24051d07b8dc64
[04:59] <moonunit> snoops, and also i know that the drive has like 30gb free or so, but its only reading 6 or so, which is the amount i have on my / partition
[04:59] <hou5ton> bruenig:  thanks for the help ....
[04:59] <snoops> moonunit you entered the -o dmask=777,fmask=777 at the end of the mount command, right?
[04:59] <m0> bruenig: i marcked the multiuniverse from synaptic
[04:59] <bruenig> follow that guide and enable the multiverse or both. I would recommend both but only multiverse is necessary for flashplugin
[04:59] <kwantum> .
[04:59] <moonunit> yes.
[04:59] <moonunit> i did
[04:59] <phiberglaz> hello, what app was used to make the ubuntu.com website?
[04:59] <crimsun> haasteem: try disabling any unused devices in bios.
[04:59] <kwantum> \join #kubunut
[04:59] <snoops> moonunit then I guess it's a permissions problem on your windows machine
[04:59] <kwantum> \join #kubuntu
[04:59] <bruenig> m0, then reload, assuming you are in synaptic and search for flashplugin-nonfree
[04:59] <moonunit> snoops, ill figure this out later, thanks for trying
[05:00] <m0> yea
[05:00] <m0> okay
[05:00] <foxjwill> Does anyone know something about uvcvideo?
[05:00] <foxjwill> hello?
[05:00] <bruenig> hi
[05:00] <haasteem> crimsun: huh?
[05:01] <foxjwill> does anyone know anything about uvcvideo?
[05:01] <bruenig> foxjwill, do you expect those of us who do not know to answer no?
[05:01] <haasteem> crimsun: why?
[05:01] <foxjwill> um....yes?
[05:01] <bruenig> because if that is your expectation
[05:01] <foxjwill> >_<
[05:01] <meta> I have all the settings working on a live CD with a wireless card in it, but then I get "ath0: no IPV6 routers present" in demsg and it won't connect
[05:01] <foxjwill> sorry
[05:01] <bruenig> ok, well assuming nobody knows you will get 770 no's that is probably not good for the chyannel
[05:01] <foxjwill> ok
[05:01] <bruenig> generally a non response indicates no
[05:01] <mo> Anybody know how to get my memory disk reader [built in]  to read disks?
[05:01] <foxjwill> thanks
[05:02] <meta> I google around and everyone seems to be asking about "ath0: no IPV6 routers present" and nobody answers them
[05:02] <snoops> foxjwill generally in irc, if people don't know the answer to a question, they don't reply, otherwise you get a flooded chat room filled with nos..
[05:02] <crimsun> haasteem: so that your sound device will have resources when the sound driver attempts to initialise the hardware
[05:02] <foxjwill> snoops: i didn't realize that. thanks
[05:03] <mo> Ok, I was a little vague.  Is there any known issues with reading memory disks in Ubuntu Dapper?
[05:03] <haasteem> crimsun: what do you think are the unused devices? can you tell from the logs?
[05:03] <ardchoille> Is there a way to see the clock speed of my CPU?
[05:03] <cracko> has anyone tride mania drive?
[05:03] <Soccrmastr> guys somehow the main menu was taken away from the top taskbar in Xubuntu, how can I add it back?
[05:03] <mo> right click the taskbar
[05:04] <crimsun> haasteem: printer port? usb controller?
[05:04] <mo> and click add to panel [Soccr] 
[05:04] <m0> :(
[05:04] <idn_ubuntu> hi, i was wondering does anyone have a usb wireless device that just worked out the box for them in dapper?
[05:04] <Soccrmastr> yeah but which item is it
[05:04] <Soccrmastr> not the launcher, you have to add those yourself
[05:04] <mo> "Main Menu"
[05:04] <crimsun> haasteem: back in 1 hr.
[05:05] <m0> bruenig: My Firefox browser crashes (quits) when I access a FLASH Page, I used the plugin you recommmeded
[05:05] <haasteem> crimsun: right, but the thing is, i upgraded from breezy to dapper last night... in breezy all worked fine, and now i'm in deep sh*t it seems
[05:05] <mo> or Menu Bar
[05:05] <haasteem> crimsun: ok
[05:05] <bruenig> m0, hard to know why. It isn't the package
[05:06] <Soccrmastr> m0: you can just use the official plugin from macromedia (or adobe now :/ ) you can get the linux version, and install it manually or it comes with an installer
[05:06] <Soccrmastr> I used that and it worked fine
[05:06] <bruenig> m0, firefox used to crash for me when I used flash pages I realized that it was because I had used some tutorial to get around the flash sound problem, once undid that it never crashed. The flash sound problem still existed but the crashing ceased.
[05:06] <bruenig> Soccrmastr, it is the same thing
[05:06] <mo> *frustrated to high hell*  Is there any way to do a hardware refresh so the computer looks for plug n play devices?
[05:07] <bruenig> Soccrmastr, flashplugin-nonfree actually just downloads the package from adobe
[05:07] <Soccrmastr> oh
[05:07] <rrittenhouse> I am using Ubuntu dapper and I have an ipod shuffle. I can put the Ipod shuffle on to charge for hours on end and it will just keep on flashing yellow and it never "finishes" charging. Anybody here ever hear of this problem?
[05:07] <gunny01> Hi, I was just wondering if there is a way to have multiplue desktop mangers (GNOME, KDE, Xfce)  on a single buntu install, and be able to choose which one to go into at login
[05:07] <mo> Have you tried using the Automatix installer for the flash plugin, or would that not help?
[05:08] <mo> gunny, yes
[05:08] <bruenig> yeah, and unzips it and does all of that stuff. The only difference I have seen is that the adobe one likes to put the plugin in ~/.mozilla and flashplugin-nonfree tends to put it in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins as that is where the default firefox plugin directory is in ubuntu
[05:08] <mo> use apt-get to download the wm [ie sudo apt-get install fluxbox]  then at the login screen, click session and choose
[05:08] <gunny01> mo: cheers
[05:08] <mo> gunny, but instead of apt-get use 'aptitude'
[05:09] <Krankily> I'm at the preparing mount points screen. I have a 1.5g swap, 23g / and a 23g home, I don't want to set other mount points yet, but the "Prepare Mount Points" keeps wanting me to..
[05:09] <gunny01> \exit
[05:09] <mo> it will be easier to get rid of the wm if you choose to
[05:09] <gunny01> cool.
[05:10] <m0> yay... my terminal crashed...
[05:10] <gunny01> that sucks..
[05:10] <mo> I'm having an issue where 1 out of every 4 or 5 logins, while loading gnome [during the splash screen]  the screen will go black and the gdm login screen will load back up.
[05:10] <m0> hmm, I removed Firefox, and Reinstalled firefox
[05:10] <m0> And whenever I access a Flashpage it crashes
[05:10] <m0> it closes automatically
[05:11] <mo> m0, how did you install flash plugin?
[05:11] <m0> Any ideas why
[05:11] <bruenig> m0, removing firefox doesn't remove any of the configuration files so it doesn't really do anything except probably remove the executable
[05:11] <end__us>  /msg nickserv identify dann
[05:11] <m0> bruenig: I deleted .mozilla as well
[05:11] <bruenig> m0, well all of the plugin related stuff is in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[05:11] <ese5> # iwconfig eth1 key DEADBEEF
[05:11] <ese5> Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
[05:11] <ese5>     SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not supported.
[05:11] <ese5> any ideas?
[05:12] <ryanc_> um, so I have an iMac I just dist-upgraded from hoary to dapper
[05:12] <Krankily> Anyone familiar with the Prepare Mount Points window?
[05:12] <ryanc_> how do I make sure the bootloader is installed correctly?
[05:12] <m0> bruenig: Going to check that out
[05:13] <m0> okay now it doesn't crash
[05:13] <m0> bruenig: I removed the plugins that was created by the Adobe drivers
[05:13] <m0> let me now install the plugin you recommended
[05:13] <bruenig> m0, i doubt it will matter
[05:13] <bruenig> as they are the same files, but I guess it wont hurt
[05:14] <mo> *frustrated to high hell*  Is there any way to do a hardware refresh so the computer looks for plug n play devices?  I want it to locate a memory disk.
[05:14] <m0> bruenig: hmm when I installed the adobe plugin it crashed for some reason...
[05:14] <ryanc_>    hello?
[05:14] <bruenig> m0, just do that and see what happens
[05:14] <m0> bruenig: hmm it crashes as well
[05:15] <bruenig> figured as much
[05:15] <m0> bruenig: what do you think the problem lies :s
[05:15] <m0> where *
[05:15] <bruenig> I am unable to really solve that error, closed source apps aren't particularly fun to try to fix or mess around with
[05:15] <AMDfanboy> hey everyone, how do i see my paths?
[05:15] <bruenig> m0, could be firefox, a lot of sound issues exist with flash. Perhaps it is unable to access the sound and just crashes
[05:15] <bruenig> not sure
[05:16] <Ych> !NFS
[05:16] <m0> bruenig: my sound is working great
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about NFS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <eternalswd> AMDfanboy, from where, terminal?
[05:16] <Ych> !nfs
[05:16] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:16] <AMDfanboy> sure
[05:16] <bruenig> m0, not your sound, the flash's access to your sound
[05:16] <AMDfanboy> yeah, i'm trying to add a path
[05:16] <m0> bruenig: I see, I am going to try this, libflash-mozplugin
[05:17] <eternalswd> AMDfanboy, you can display your current path with pwd
[05:17] <m0> bruenig: That worked fine now :)
[05:17] <m0> bruenig: the GPL flash worked, libflash-mozplugin
[05:17] <jake> how do I find out my video card driver?
[05:17] <eternalswd> AMDfanboy, and to make a new directory you do mkdir path/newdirname
[05:18] <bruenig> m0, it doesn't display some stuff properly
[05:18] <AMDfanboy> eternalswd: no not that kind of path ;-) - i'm trying to install ktorrent 2.0, i'm runing mepis.  it tells me that it cant find X in the path
[05:18] <bruenig> I used it for a while but got tired of the errors
[05:18] <m0> jake, lspci
[05:18] <mo> Anyone know how I can try to get my computer to mount a memory disk that is inserted into my built in reader?
[05:18] <Krankily> Installing away...
[05:18] <jake> my /etc/xorg.conf doesn't exist
[05:18] <eternalswd> AMDfanboy, okay, so you need to add a path to the environment?
[05:18] <AMDfanboy> it said this when i ran the ./configure file  ----   "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[05:18] <markrian> jake, it should be /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:18] <Warbo>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:18] <AMDfanboy> yea, thats what its called
[05:20] <Warbo> Is anyone here using AIGLX? (Compiz or not)
[05:20] <markrian> AMDfanboy, you'll need to install the appropriate -dev packages
[05:20] <AMDfanboy> hmm? for X?
[05:20] <Warbo> AMDfanboy: Is ktorrent in Mpeis/Ubutnu/whatever?
[05:20] <Warbo> *Mepis
[05:20] <AMDfanboy> i'm using mepis
[05:20] <markrian> If you study the configure error you'll find it'll say something like "Cannot find something.pc"
[05:20] <AMDfanboy> it comes with 1.2 which sucks, i'm trying to install 2.0 from source
[05:21] <Warbo> AMDfanboy: If an older version is available already then "sudo apt-get build-dep ktorrent" will install everything you need to compile it (-dev packages and stuff)
[05:21] <the_kill> hey,
[05:21] <markrian> You can find out what package something.pc is in by going to http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and entering that name into the search box
[05:21] <markrian> The search box for the contents of packages, that is
[05:21] <Warbo> !info apt-file
[05:21] <ubotu> apt-file: APT package searching utility -- command-line interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.7ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 92 kB
[05:21] <AMDfanboy> warbo: on apt there is only 1.2, not 2.0
[05:22] <Warbo> AMDfanboy: Yes, but they should both need the same -dev packages to compile. That command will not install ktorrent, only the things needed to build it
[05:22] <mo> I'm having an issue where 1 out of every 4 or 5 logins, while loading gnome [during the splash screen]  the screen will go black and the gdm login screen will load back up.  Any ideas?
[05:22] <the_kill> halah ngapusi
[05:22] <m0> why when I move my terminal it leaves window trails behind?
[05:22] <m0> any way to fix that
[05:23] <AMDfanboy> hmm, but i already have 1.2 installed, so i probably have the packages
[05:23] <Warbo> m0: XGL doesn't do that..... (manybe xcompmgr stops that too)
[05:23] <markrian> AMDfanboy, not true
[05:23] <Warbo> AMDfanboy: That is not dependencies, that is build dependencies
[05:23] <AMDfanboy> this is the error i get, "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[05:23] <AMDfanboy> i think its saying something else?
[05:23] <markrian> AMDfanboy, nope
[05:23] <m0> Warbo: what do you mean? When I move my terminal, it leaves window trails behind while moving
[05:23] <markrian> AMDfanboy, you definitely only need the right -dev packages
[05:23] <Warbo> You need the build dependencies, which is what build-dep gets
[05:24] <lena> well i finally got my wifes computer runnng
[05:24] <lena> hey warbo it's doug
[05:24] <eternalswd> AMDfanboy, just so you know, there's a precompiled deb at http://ktorrent.org/index.php?page=downloads
[05:24] <Warbo> m0: I mean that XGL and xcompmgr render all of the windows off-screen, then composite them together. It stops those trails (but is a little extreme)
[05:24] <Warbo> Leng: Remind me....
[05:24] <Warbo> oops
[05:25] <Warbo> wrong guy
[05:25] <DanaG> argh, something won't compile.
[05:25] <Warbo> He left
[05:25] <DanaG> During make, I get "grep: /usr/lib/libXrender.la: No such file or directory"
[05:25] <Doug> i'm back
[05:25] <m0> Warbo: I see okay :) Untill I fix my AIGLX I will be happy :) http://www.compiz.net/topic-3225-aiglx-refusing-launch-compiz-errors-inside
[05:25] <Doug> anyway I had to do soooooooo much to get this thing running
[05:25] <Warbo> Doug: Remind me.......
[05:25] <mo> Im brand new to irc.  How do I change my name?
[05:25] <Doug> I updated ubuntu then got a no operating system error
[05:25] <Warbo> m0: I am stuck in AIGLX (but I am not using Compiz)
[05:25] <Doug> this morning
[05:25] <DanaG> !tpm
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tpm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <DanaG> !tcg
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tcg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <AMDfanboy> ok, i ran that command, "apt-get build-dep ktorrent"
[05:26] <Doug> how do you change my name red like that
[05:26] <AMDfanboy> it did stuff
[05:26] <rast4> is the lmhosts file in Samba meant to be edited manually? Like can I add the names and IP's of the XP machines that I am trying to access in the lnhosts file?
[05:26] <Doug> warbo
[05:26] <AMDfanboy> what did i do?  ;-)
[05:26] <DanaG> help?
[05:27] <Warbo> Can someone try running xteddy please? All I get is a white cut-out
[05:27] <Doug> anyway I reinstalled ubuntu aftea bit of work
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> rast4,  what lmhosts file? i cant say that ive ever had to mess with that file.
[05:27] <Warbo> AMDfanboy: Try ./configure again
[05:27] <eternalswd> AMDfanboy, what you did was install the necessary libraries to compile ktorrent, now try rebuilding.
[05:27] <Doug> thanks for the help
[05:27] <Doug> hello
[05:27] <mo> How do I completely remove GNOME and reinstall it?
[05:27] <mereupetine> I feel like dropping off people off the IRC
[05:27] <Warbo> Doug: Sure (even though I can't exactly remember at this point :) )
[05:28] <Doug> my wifes computer
[05:28] <Doug> missing GRUB installer
[05:28] <Doug> this morning for me
[05:28] <rast4> Dr_Willis: Here's my prob, I got Samba up and running. I can access my Windows 2k3 Server from my Ubuntu laptop, it asked me for name/pass and I supplied it. Now in the networking area, I click on the workgroup, and it identifies all of my computers across my network, but I can't access any XP machines
[05:28] <AMDfanboy> it died in exactly the same place, "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[05:28] <mo> Im brand new to irc.  How do I change my name?
[05:28] <Warbo> mo: type "/nick newnickname"
[05:28] <rast4> type /nick new-name to chance nick
[05:28] <eternalswd> AMDfanboy, if you can't get it to work, there's a precompiled deb at http://ktorrent.org/index.php?page=downloads
[05:28] <justsomemo> thanks a lot people
[05:29] <AMDfanboy> thanks, i actually tried that first, it didnt work either!
[05:29] <justsomemo> How do I completely remove GNOME and reinstall it?
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> rast4,  try some other samba browser tool. like smb4k -  sounding like xp may be the issue.
[05:29] <AMDfanboy> whats the command for that?
[05:29] <markrian> AMDfanboy, command for what?
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> justsomemo,  fire up synaptic, search for gnome.. start clicking, and hit uninstall.
[05:29] <rast4> Dr_Willis: is that available in Synaptic?
[05:29] <Warbo> justsomemo: Use the "mark for complete removal" on the GNOME packages, then reinstall them
[05:29] <AMDfanboy> i was doing it in a gui, maybe if i don't i'll see the error message
[05:29] <Warbo> (in Synaptic)
[05:29] <AMDfanboy> command to install a deb package
[05:30] <AMDfanboy> dkpg or something?
[05:30] <Warbo> "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[05:30] <markrian> AMDfanboy, And the deb on the ktorrent site only doesn't work because you already have ktorrent installed. It's a bad deb on the site
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> rast4,  yep. :)  ya may have to do some suid bits to get it to mount/unmount - but it should browse good.
[05:30] <DanaG> "grep: /usr/lib/libXrender.la: No such file or directory"
[05:30] <justsomemo> Warbo/DrWillis: so just everything that starts with "gnome"?
[05:30] <rast4> thanks
[05:30] <DanaG> What do I install to fix that?
[05:30] <chaoticjosh> Is there a way of increase the output oin a sound card?
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> justsomemo,  ive rearely seen a need to remove/reinsrtall stuff.
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> !info libxrender-dev
[05:31] <ubotu> libxrender-dev: X Rendering Extension client library (development files). In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.9.0.2-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 116 kB
[05:31] <stopher> BlueEagle: I'm back Paging BlueEagle:
[05:31] <cool_dude098765> Install SCAT
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> DanaG,  thats my guess there. :)
[05:31] <justsomemo> Dr_Willis: I'm having an issue where 1 out of every 4 or 5 logins, while loading gnome [during the splash screen]  the screen will go black and the gdm login screen will load back up.  This doesn't happen under Fluxbox, but started after Installing flux
[05:31] <Warbo> justsomemo: Try removing some critical GNOME components, which will then remove their dependencies. Then I know a command which will remove the configs for all removed packages afterwards
[05:31] <eternalswd> anybody else getting disconnected? that's twice in a minute for me.
[05:32] <AMDfanboy> its a bad deb?
[05:32] <nalioth> eternalswd: you should join us in #ubuntu-ops please
[05:32] -cool_dude098765:#ubuntu- IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!
[05:32] <Frankenstein> how can i get the new xmoto version in the repostories
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> justsomemo,  try making a new user. and see if it also affects them.
[05:32] -cool_dude098765:#ubuntu- IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!
[05:32] -cool_dude098765:#ubuntu- IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!
[05:32] -cool_dude098765:#ubuntu- IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!
[05:32] <Frankenstein> that was lame...
[05:32] <justsomemo> Dr_Willis: it does, but not as much
[05:32] <nalioth> GRRR
[05:32] <nalioth> !ops
[05:32] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[05:33] <lastnode> nalioth, why isnt +n set?
[05:33] <justsomemo> Warbo: I will try that
[05:33] <chaoticjosh> is there a config file for speaker output settings?
[05:33] <[r-us] larry77> !ops
[05:33] <nalioth> lastnode: +n IS set
[05:33] <Frankenstein> lastnode, cooldude was in here... expect he got klined
[05:33] <AMDfanboy> markrain: its a bad deb on the site?
[05:33] <TheGame> sup
[05:33] <nalioth> eternalswd: join us in #ubuntu-ops please
[05:33] <lastnode> Fracture, still, can you notice a channel if +n is set?
[05:33] <[r-us] larry77> most of the girls here have a flapjack
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> justsomemo,  sounds almost like a driver issue to me..  if it does it with a Brand New User.. Hmm. not sure what to tell ya.. try booting to the console and using 'startx' to get some detaled log messages
[05:33] <noiesmo> chaoticjosh, you could use alsamixergui to set up sound
[05:34] <lastnode> shit
[05:34] <lastnode> yeah
[05:34] <Warbo> justsomemo: This command, when run as root, will purge all configs for packages which have been removed: "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |grep ^rc |awk '{print $2} ' | xargs dpkg -P"
[05:34] <TheGame> can some1 tell me why i cant disable my touchpad
[05:34] <DanaG> xrender-dev does not have a .la file.
[05:34] <TheGame> i cant run synclient
[05:34] <AMDfanboy> markrian: its a bad deb on the site?
[05:34] <justsomemo> Warbo, thanks a lot homie.
[05:34] <Frankenstein> how can i get the new xmoto version in the repostories
[05:35] <jeff_> Is it possible to add folders to the 'Save' dialog box?
[05:35] <Frankenstein> jeff_, what program
[05:35] <justsomemo> Dr_Willis: Could a driver issue still be the culprit if the problem doesn't exist under other window managers?
[05:35] <markrian> AMDfanboy, yes, it's named badly. It's not named ktorrent, it's named ktorrent-2.0, so dpkg doesn't realise it's an upgrade of ktorrent, finds it overwrites files from an existing package, and stops
[05:35] <rast4> Dr_Willis: smb4k is for KDE, I use GNome...
[05:35] <markrian> Other than that, it might be okay...
[05:35] <jeff_> Frankenstein, it seems like all programs use the same dialog
[05:35] -lzjqmapx:#ubuntu- IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!
[05:35] -enjweq:#ubuntu- IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!
[05:35] -kgwcmnh:#ubuntu- IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> justsomemo,  thats what seems odd.. and why ya should be checking out the logs.
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> rast4,  so what.. you can install kde apps and it will run fine.
[05:36] <Warbo> jeff_: The drop-down list contains the bookmarks you set in Nautilus
[05:36] <rast4> gotcha
[05:36] <timalot> who is getting k-lined?
[05:36] <jeff_> Warbo, how can I edit those bookmarks?
[05:36] <DanaG> argh, someone's spamming "peanut butter jelly time"
[05:36] <Frankenstein> jeff_, just look for browse or more folders that should bring up a new screen and look for create folder
[05:36] <justsomemo> Thanks for the help all.
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> DanaG,  yes. we see it. :)
[05:36] <Warbo> jeff_: Go somewhere in Nautilus (the file manager) then choose Bookmarks>Add to bookmarks
[05:36] <Frankenstein> DanaG, we know... pissing me off and i dont think anyone is seeing my question
[05:36] <DanaG> How do I go to modded mode?
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> modded mode?
[05:39] <nalioth> ATTENTION FOLKS, YOU'LL NEED TO REGISTER AND / OR IDENTIFY TO SPEAK IN #ubuntu FOR THE MOMENT.  /msg nickserv help register  APOLOGIES FOR THE INCONVENIENCE
[05:39] <stopher> test...
[05:39] <DBO> further instructions available here: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[05:39] <stopher> BlueEagle: Paging BlueEagle to DCC please :)
[05:40] <TheBlue> Hi all, I was wondering if ndiswrapper on Dapper prefers Windows NT-style or 9X-style drivers?
[05:40] <lastnode> nalioth, set the welcome message to read that
[05:41] <Soccrmastr> "HOW-TO watch YOUTUBE videos from LINUX Shell Prompt" LOL wow sounds pretty cool
[05:41] <stopher> umm +b *!*@195.131.201.178
[05:41] <stopher> lol
[05:41] <TheBlue> ?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> 'How to get over your youtube addiction' - step #1 - realize that they are all stupid.
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:42] <Soccrmastr> lol
[05:42] <Frankenstein> are we done?! so i may ask my question and it be seen
[05:42] <polpak> Anyone know the name of that dvd authoring program.. It's developed in wxPython.. the name starts with a t
[05:42] <Soccrmastr> frankenstein ask
[05:42] <TheBlue> Frankenstein: Go ahead.
[05:42] <alexcamilo> is there anything i need to be carefull about when switching to 64 bit linuc and is 64 bit linux REALLY worth it if i'm not gonna do stuff tat requires over 4gb of ram?
[05:43] <Soccrmastr> lol frankenstein ask
[05:43] <TheBlue> He did.
[05:43] <TheBlue> f*cking scrollers.
[05:43] <Warbo> Frankenstein: Not your day, is it?
[05:43] <alexcamilo> weeeeee!
[05:43] <stopher> ooo..k
[05:43] <Frankenstein> yea... i dont think it is man
[05:43] <nocti> hello, what's a good chm reader? thanks
[05:43] <rast4> how weak, I mean really, is that meant to flood?
[05:43] <rast4> c'mon
[05:43] <rast4> my 10 year old nephew can build a better botnet than that
[05:43] <Soccrmastr> lol frankenstein ask again
[05:43] <Frankenstein> YAY... XMoto the 2d game in the dapper repostories is out of date... how can i get that upgraded so i can play the new version?
[05:43] <nocti> hello, what's a good chm reader? thanks
[05:44] <nalioth> TheBlue: /ignore $string
[05:44] <Soccrmastr> nocti you already asked that lol
[05:44] <TheBlue> nalioth: Thanks.
[05:44] <nalioth> ATTENTION FOLKS, YOU'LL NEED TO REGISTER AND / OR IDENTIFY TO SPEAK IN #ubuntu FOR THE MOMENT.  /msg nickserv help register  APOLOGIES FOR THE INCONVENIENCE
[05:44] <nocti> Soccrmastr, oops, pressed up arrow  sorry
[05:44] <alexcamilo> so did my question get lost in the spam?
[05:44] <TheBlue> Noted, nalioth.
[05:44] <naji> DBO: 193.95.3.135 is a dynamic ip
[05:44] <DBO> naji, yes I know
[05:45] <DBO> I didnt mean to do that
[05:45] <DanaG> okay, I need to install "trousers".
[05:45] <alexcamilo> is there anything i need to be carefull about when switching to 64 bit linuc and is 64 bit linux REALLY worth it if i'm not gonna do stuff tat requires over 4gb of ram?
[05:45] <DanaG> It won't compile.
[05:45] <DBO> naji, I was banforwarding vulnaerable people to ubuntu-ops
[05:45] <TheBlue> alexcamilo: do you have a 64-bit computer?
[05:45] <naji> ok
[05:45] <Frankenstein> DanaG, did you try sudo apt-get install build essentials
[05:45] <alexcamilo> will verry soon
[05:45] <Soccrmastr> guys, my usb camera is not being detected as a mountable device, but it is being detected as being plugged in. but I still cant access the files...
[05:45] <Cornellius> build-essentials
[05:45] <DanaG> http://trousers.sourceforge.net/faq.html
[05:46] <TheBlue> alexcamilo: well, i really don't know, honestly.
[05:46] <Soccrmastr> maybe if i try the mount command from the terminal, can anyone rmeind me to what it is?
[05:46] <alexcamilo> theblue: will there be a problem with closed source drivers?
[05:46] <TheBlue> alexcamilo: I really don't know anything about 64-bit, sorry.
[05:46] <alexcamilo> ah
[05:46] <Frankenstein> DanaG, did you try sudo apt-get install build essentials
[05:46] <SeanTater> alexcamilo: for things other than over 4 GB ram, it's probably not worth it, as long as you want to play multimedia and games
[05:47] <SeanTater> alexcamilo: make that just multimedia, I think games can be separate
[05:47] <ardchoille> Soccrmastr: sudo mount -t <type> /dev/<device> /mountpoint ?
[05:47] <TheBlue> Not to mention finding binaries.
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> alexcamilo,  proberly not worth the effort at this time.
[05:47] <Soccrmastr> ardchoille: I'm lost at <type> lol
[05:47] <RamiKassab> hey guys is there a way to iconify apps in the system tray in ubuntu? for example, I dont want xmms to sit in the taskbar but I would like it to be an icon in a panel. Is there an app out there that can help me do this? Thanks guys!
[05:48] <TheBlue> Oh!
[05:48] <ardchoille> Soccrmastr: What kind of device is it?
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> RamiKassab,  i know how to do it with KDE> :P not noticed how to do it in gnome
[05:48] <TheBlue> RamiKassab: I think you want wmXMMS, though it might have a different name.
[05:48] <DanaG> in make:
[05:48] <DanaG> grep: /usr/lib/libXrender.la: No such file or directory
[05:48] <DanaG> /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/libXrender.la: No such file or directory
[05:48] <DanaG> libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libXrender.la' is not a valid libtool archive
[05:48] <Soccrmastr> ardchoille: its a usb camera
[05:48] <nalioth> DanaG: please don't paste
[05:48] <alexcamilo> can i install it for the sake of playing around. if i have a home partition and point bolth distros to it will my settings remain the same in bolth?
[05:48] <alexcamilo> imeen. installs
[05:48] <RamiKassab> TheBlue: what's the difference between wmXMMS and regular XMMS?
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> RamiKassab,  with kde ya can launch things with 'kstart' and tweak programs.
[05:48] <DanaG> That's what I get with Make.
[05:49] <RamiKassab> Dr_Willis: isn't there an app called kdocker? would it also work in gnome?
[05:49] <RamiKassab> I'm running gnome BTW
[05:49] <TheBlue> RamiKassab: XMMS is the actual program, wmXMMS is the widget that hides in the taskbar and gives you control from there.
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> RamiKassab,  not sure. i get annoyed at gnome too much. :)
[05:49] <intersteller_ove> hello - i am fairly new to linux, but new to ubuntu entirerly
[05:49] <Soccrmastr> ardchoille: here is what i was asking before has all the info of whats happening:  ok guys, when I plug in my camera via USB a new file appears in /proc/bus/usb/001, and in/dev/bus/usb/001, but the file name is 00X and every time I disconnect it and plug it back in X gets hgher, and the file is unrecognized and cant be opened with any program. this is my camera and I want to empty all of the...
[05:49] <markrian> alexcamilo, yes, that should be fine
[05:49] <Soccrmastr> ...pictures out of it onto the laptop. does the camra have to be formatted to support linux or soemthing?
[05:49] <TheBlue> intersteller_ove: welcome!
[05:49] <RamiKassab> TheBlue: ah got ya, I will look into it then
[05:49] <ardchoille> Soccrmastr: I don't know the fs type on those.. possibly -t vfat ?
[05:49] <intersteller_ove> just curiouls has anyone installed ubuntu on a dell dimension 2400?
[05:49] <RamiKassab> Dr_Willis: heh, I'm new to ubuntu, eventually I'll get KDE installed so I can play around with it too
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> RamiKassab,  :)
[05:50] <alexcamilo> thanx
[05:50] <SeanTater> alexcamilo: if you want a preview of things to come, except for speed, you might want to try qemu and install 64-bit on a qcow.
[05:50] <intersteller_ove> i've used suse before but dependencies are a drag
[05:50] <Killeroid> anyone know any good voice recognition software for gnome?something like kmouth and kspeak?
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> RamiKassab,  ya may notice that a lot of 'features' ya expect to have under gnome - are not there.. becuase they would be too confusing to new 'users' :)
[05:50] <intersteller_ove> hopefully, ubuntu will help with with this
[05:50] <bcoff> is there a place i can view history of apt-get operations?
[05:50] <ardchoille> Killeroid: if you don't find one for gnome, you *can* run kde apps in gnome
[05:50] <SeanTater> alexcamilo: in english - you can run 64-bit in 32-bit AFAIK, it will just be a bit slow
[05:50] <RamiKassab> Dr_Willis: yeah tell me about it, I like the interface though. KDE is much easier to use though
[05:50] <Soccrmastr> ardchoille: Xfce has a Mount devices app, that shows you all mountable devices. but the camer ais not showing up. also, its not auto-mounting as it should be
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> intersteller_ove,  thats when it pays to learn all the ins and outs of the package managers  :P
[05:50] <TheBlue> Does ndiswrapper use NT drivers or 95/98 drivers?
[05:51] <eternalswd> intersteller_ove, I once tried installing Breezy, but X wouldn't run on my integrated intel graphics, so I gave up until I got a newer computer
[05:51] <Killeroid> ardchoille: thanks I know but i prefer gnome apps to kde ones
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> RamiKassab,  checking out XFCE for now.. not really 'used' it enough to give it a good going over yet.
[05:51] <intersteller_ove> ah
[05:51] <ardchoille> Soccrmastr: I've had that prob with some usb devices.
[05:51] <edosdonkey> how can increase my video performance in ubuntu's desktop? i have an sis m650
[05:51] <ardchoille> Killeroid: Understandable, I do too :)
[05:51] <Soccrmastr> ardchoille: so no solution?
[05:51] <intersteller_ove> well i added a pci vid card anywyas
[05:51] <Killeroid> ardchoille: ah,i found one, GERvoice
[05:51] <alexcamilo> cool
[05:51] <RamiKassab> Dr_Willis: will do, I prefer to stick to the big wigs though
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> edosdonkey,  reduce the # of colors, use a very light window manager..  hmm..  dont run extra stuff ya dont need.
[05:52] <eternalswd> intersteller_ove, but I'm sure dapper would have worked
[05:52] <edosdonkey> the transparent background of the terminal has a delay in resfreshing when i drag it
[05:52] <ardchoille> Soccrmastr: I'm sure there is a solution, I just don't know what it is
[05:52] <edosdonkey> ok
[05:52] <ardchoille> Killeroid: ahh, thanks for the tip :)
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> edosdonkey,  dont use that transparent -useless-eye candy. :P
[05:52] <edosdonkey> i think i could reduce it to 16-bit
[05:52] <Killeroid> np
[05:52] <edosdonkey> lo
[05:52] <ardchoille> Soccrmastr: Maybe post the prob to http://ubuntuforums.org
[05:52] <edosdonkey> this is the first time ive ever had it
[05:52] <RamiKassab> Dr_Willis: damn, XFCE.org is down lol
[05:52] <tanath> what's wrong with eyecandy? :P
[05:52] <Soccrmastr> ardchoille: heh.. thanks for trying to hep man. This sucks really, but the camera probably made for windows only :/
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> RamiKassab,  apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> RamiKassab,  or check out the xubuntu web site
[05:53] <RamiKassab> Dr_Willis: yeah I'll check it out first
[05:53] <tanath> Soccrmastr: digital camera?
[05:53] <RamiKassab> Dr_Willis: and kubuntu is for kde right?
[05:53] <Soccrmastr> tanath: yes
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> RamiKassab,  yep
[05:53] <ardchoille> Soccrmastr: I've had that prob with USB 1.0 things.. usually USB 2.0 mounts easily
[05:53] <tanath> Soccrmastr: mine works fine
[05:53] <Soccrmastr> ardchoille: OLD laptop, doesnt have usb 2.0
[05:53] <Soccrmastr> tanath: heh...
[05:53] <ardchoille> Soccrmastr: *that* may be the problem ;)
[05:53] <tanath> Soccrmastr: though i had to change a setting on the camera for it to use PTP instead of the mass USB storage
[05:53] <bcoff> how to view apt-get history
[05:54] <Soccrmastr> tanath: Hmmm.. I'll try that. you did that on the camera itself?
[05:54] <alienseer23> hello, I am having problems connecting my mobile phone via usb to serial cable, apparently a service for palm os (I have never used this, and don't plan to) takes over the connection and locks down the port (usb). Any suggestions?
[05:54] <tanath> Soccrmastr: now i just plug it in, and it automatically detects it and pops up the thingy to import pics
[05:54] <DanaG> argh, I wanna get my TPM chip working.
[05:54] <tanath> Soccrmastr: yep
[05:54] <DanaG> I modprobe tpm_infineon and it does nothing.
[05:54] <tanath> Soccrmastr: it's a sony cybershot
[05:55] <Soccrmastr> tanath: yes Ill try, because that happens right now in Windows, but no Xubuntu. Ill try. I have a Canon powershot 180
[05:55] <tanath> Soccrmastr: only thing that doesn't work is deleting pics. gotta do that on the camera
[05:55] <jman8888> Umm... How do i get my Hp printer working in ubuntu....
[05:55] <EpP> jman8888, start by plugging it in
[05:55] <tanath> Soccrmastr: well, if not, mine has a few modes. yours might too, and one might owkr
[05:55] <tanath> *work
[05:55] <Madpilot> jman8888, System->Prefs->Printer
[05:55] <Soccrmastr> tanath: Im gonna look now Ill get back to u if it works
[05:56] <bcoff> Hi, how do I view a history of apt-get operations?  I'd like to be able to restore my machine to a previous point in time.  -- thanks
[05:56] <jman8888> Its pluged in and im at Prefs/printer...
[05:56] <alienseer23> how do I remove all palm os services from the comp? will this kill my ability to connect the phone?
[05:57] <tich> i have some suspend issues which i can't figure out.  (by issues i mean that neither suspend or hibernate work) could anyone help out?
[05:58] <Soccrmastr> tanath: Think i found my solution already! this camera supports PTP. and there is an app that will auto-detect this specific camera, hopefully it wil work. brb lemme get abck to u on it :)
[05:58] <Frankenstein> i need SDL... what package do i need for that?
[05:58] <tanath> Soccrmastr: should work :)
[05:58] <tanath> Soccrmastr: just put it on PTP and plug it in
[05:58] <tanath> Soccrmastr: it should come up automatically
[05:58] <Frankenstein> !sdl
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <illvarg> hi! i've got a problem when i try to load synaptic, it does not start becuse it can't load libvte.so.4. how do i fix this?
[05:58] <Cornellius> !SDL
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SDL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <Cornellius> !info sdl
[05:59] <ubotu> Package sdl does not exist in dapper
[05:59] <Maje> try using apt-get?
[05:59] <Cornellius> !info SDL
[05:59] <ubotu> Package sdl does not exist in dapper
[05:59] <Cornellius> mmm...
[05:59] <Frankenstein> i looked the cache...
[05:59] <Soccrmastr> tanath: its on PTP I believe but still not working. Im reading article now someone with same camera has to sue a special app will try it now
[05:59] <jman8888> What do i do next. To get my printer working...
[05:59] <dylan_> Does anyone know of a free Atheros driver?
[05:59] <tanath> !info libsdl
[05:59] <nalioth> Cornellius: /msg the bot please
[05:59] <ubotu> Package libsdl does not exist in dapper
[06:00] <Cornellius> nalioth: Ok
[06:00] <Frankenstein> libsdl-console-dev and libsdl-console
[06:00] <Cornellius> nalioth: Only wanted Frankenstein to see it too.
[06:00] <tanath> Soccrmastr: Apps > Graphics > Gthumb image viewer
[06:00] <ese5> how does ubuntu handle hotplug?
[06:00] <Soccrmastr> tantah: using Xubuntu :/
[06:00] <tanath> Soccrmastr: then File > import photos
[06:00] <Frankenstein> i wish this thing was in the repostories... at least the updated version!
[06:01] <tanath> Soccrmastr: oh.. well, see if you have gthumb image viewer
[06:01] <illvarg> anyone, please help..
[06:01] <EpP> Frankenstein, what are you developing for?
[06:01] <adammichaelroach> hello, I'm having a problem with my boot situation.  Basically it starts to boot, and it gets to Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel.  and the next line is (none) login:
[06:01] <Soccrmastr> tanath: nope, but both apps should work. I'lls ee
[06:01] <tanath> Frankenstein: their in mine...
[06:01] <ese5> can someone tell me how ubuntu handles hotplug scripts?
[06:01] <Frankenstein> EpP, i just want the updated version of xmoto! and it requires all these dev libs
[06:01] <tanath> Frankenstein: er, they're
[06:01] <Killeroid> dylan_: does madwifi qualify?
[06:01] <EpP> Frankenstein, ahhh
[06:01] <ese5> ie,  why is there no /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent in ubuntu?
[06:01] <dylan_> Killeroid, madwifi is proprietary :(
[06:02] <Frankenstein> configure: error: SDL_mixer required getting closer....
[06:02] <bisconer> Hey i need some help with intalling ubuntu on a laptop
[06:02] <EpP> Frankenstein, just compile from source,.
[06:02] <Killeroid> dylan_: ah,kk
[06:02] <Frankenstein> EpP, what do you think im doing?!
[06:02] <EpP> Frankenstein, oh ok. lol
[06:02] <alexcamilo> how good is webcam support in linux?
[06:02] <bisconer> every time it gets to where its configuring gnome the screen gose black
[06:02] <illvarg> bisconer: what seems to be the problem?
[06:02] <EpP> alexcamilo, i think it depends on the hardware.
[06:03] <Soccrmastr> Tanath: hehe, yup detected my camera, by name. ;) now to find out how to extract the images lol
[06:03] <EpP> bisconer, what do u need?
[06:03] <tanath> anyone have any idea why seveas repos never work for me? always says can't parse package file
[06:03] <alexcamilo> member:bisconer: i had that same problem today. i just tried multiple times and it went trhough one one of them. wierd.
[06:03] <tanath> Soccrmastr: :) should be an option in the app. shouldn't be hard
[06:03] <bisconer> ok
[06:03] <ese5> can anyone help me get my wifi card working with wep?
[06:03] <haasteem> crimsun: are you back?
[06:03] <DanaG> What kernel does Edgy have?
[06:03] <DanaG> I need tpm_tis
[06:04] <DanaG> and I need restricted-modules.
[06:04] <tanath> E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/seveas.theplayboymansion.net_seveas_dists_dapper-seveas_Release (1)
[06:04] <EpP> tanath, sudo?
[06:04] <Frankenstein> if i put a bug in the system about wanting to upgrade xmoto in the repostories... would they do it
[06:04] <tanath> EpP: synaptic or apt-get with sudo, yes. but it's the only repo that does it
[06:04] <Frankenstein> not that i mind going around looking for dependices all night
[06:04] <phargle> kerploop
[06:05] <DanaG> How often does Ubuntu update the kernel?
[06:06] <Frankenstein> not alot that i know of...
[06:06] <DanaG> I couldn't get ipw3945 working in a self-compiled kernel.org kernel.
[06:06] <Frankenstein> DanaG, are you thinking about using it as a server?
[06:06] <gary[ubuntu] > danag: I've had 2 kernel updates in the month that I've been running ubuntu
[06:06] <EpP> DanaG, They try not to upgrade it too much because it can cause bugs.
[06:06] <DanaG> I need a module not in the current kernel.
[06:06] <chris86wm> how do you make the trash icon visible on the desktop? I tried gconf-editor in terminal but it doesnt take affect.....
[06:07] <Frankenstein> god knows ubuntu's need to slap on 50 other things for one simple thing and yada yada, ubuntu server = not in the near future
[06:07] <PyroManiak> Can someone help me fix this? synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:07] <KrakensDen> moin
[06:08] <DanaG> methinks SuSE works well for stuff.
[06:08] <DanaG> But not as much for tweaking.
[06:08] <Frankenstein> PyroManiak, try sudo apt-get install libvte-common
[06:08] <EpP> methinks ubuntu is just fine
[06:08] <EpP> The support is great.
[06:08] <Frankenstein> i like ubuntu as desktop... not server... i use CentOS for that
[06:09] <EpP> Frankenstein, thats what my webserver runs.
[06:09] <PyroManiak> Frankenstein: says already installed, how do I replace?
[06:09] <DanaG> I have this device pnp0c31.
[06:09] <Frankenstein> PyroManiak, ok than try sudo apt-get install libvte-dev
[06:09] <gary[ubuntu] > PyroManiak: it's a known issue with a certain update. check this forum thread for updates and quick fixes http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238668&highlight=libvte
[06:09] <illvarg> PyroManiak: i have the same problem, working on it. i'll give you the answer when i get it working again.
[06:10] <Frankenstein> EpP, no support is greater than the man file, and other documents
[06:10] <EpP> Frankenstein, unless its badly written
[06:11] <Frankenstein> EpP, than find another source
[06:11] <Killeroid> never seen a badly written man-file yet
[06:11] <EpP> Frankenstein, like the ubuntu forums?
[06:11] <EpP> lol
[06:11] <DanaG> Neeeeeeed.    Newwwwwww.  Kernellllllll.
[06:11] <DanaG> bah.
[06:11] <DanaG> !edgy
[06:11] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:12] <TheBlue> What is an Eft?
[06:12] <DanaG> A newt, or something.
[06:12] <DanaG> Or is it a salamander?
[06:12] <DShepherd> TheBlue: ask google
[06:12] <TheBlue> Ah.
[06:12] <DanaG> I have completely forgotten the difference.
[06:12] <EpP> i think it should be "Edgy Elf"...
[06:12] <EpP> elfs are cool
[06:12] <TheBlue> Elfs make awesome cookies.
[06:12] <Killeroid> how did the even come up with such names?
[06:13] <EpP> kinda like gnomes.. hu hu
[06:13] <TheBlue> AND.
[06:13] <TheBlue> With that, I'm gonna leave for the night.
[06:13] <DShepherd> elf doesnt sound edgy though .. hehe
[06:13] <EpP> TheBlue, peace me
[06:13] <TheBlue> Good chatting with y'all, have a good one.
[06:13] <EpP> u2
[06:13] <EpP> TheBlue, good way to end it
[06:13] <DanaG> Edgy Eeel.
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> Edgy Elephant
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:14] <Frankenstein> oh yea, new xmoto ROCKS!
[06:14] <Cornellius> Frankenstein: Ah, xmoto. Cute little game :)
[06:14] <Frankenstein> Cornellius, the one in the reposotires is old...
[06:15] <tanath_> hrm, i can't upgrade libvte-common 'cause it wants to remove stuff, including synaptic
[06:15] <KrakensDen> does anyone here have any experience troubleshooting acpi/suspend/hibernate?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis>  sudo apt-get install xmoto    .....
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> :) lets see
[06:15] <Frankenstein> Dr_Willis, what did i just say? lol
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> heh - whats that 'rocks and diamonds' game - like boulder dash..
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> thats another classic
[06:15] <peace-keeper> why the synaptic package manager always starts automatically when i boot ubuntu ?
[06:15] <bisconer> errr i need to get a new burner, this writing at 4x sucks
[06:16] <Cornellius> Frankenstein: Newer, does not always mean better.
[06:16] <KrakensDen> peace-keeper: are
[06:16] <Frankenstein> Cornellius, in this case... it does
[06:16] <tanath_> peace-keeper: saved in your session, maybe?
[06:16] <KrakensDen> you familiar with the session manager?
[06:16] <bisconer> yea, takes me about 30 to 40 mins to burn a cd
[06:16] <KrakensDen> system -> preferences -> sessions
[06:17] <Frankenstein> Cornellius, plus the new one has a level editor :P
[06:17] <Frankenstein> bisconer, takes me 2 mins to burn 700MB :P
[06:17] <bisconer> lol
[06:17] <EpP> i dont have good 3d on either of my pcs. So no Xmoto for me
[06:17] <peace-keeper> hmm and the top left menu (xfce) suddenly disappeared :D only have a terminal and a firefox button now, nothing else :(
[06:18] <bisconer> yea my last drive did that, but then my budie was being stupid and put tape on a cd thinking it would hold the crack to gether
[06:18] <bisconer> and the tape came off and distroyed my drive
[06:18] <Frankenstein> plus the old xmoto use to be laggy when i had my system this loaded.. this one doesnt do that :P
[06:19] <bvali> hey... can anybody help me with my sound system in dapper? I've got that background noise and dunno how to get rid of it.
[06:19] <Taim> Sigh.  3rd times a charm.
[06:19] <peace-keeper> wtf: ** (gnome-session-properties:6349): CRITICAL **: gsm_protocol_new: assertion `GSM_IS_GNOME_CLIENT (gnome_client)' failed
[06:20] <Taim> So, It appears that I busted synaptic going to xgl/compiz
[06:20] <ubuntu> haast dude left?
[06:20] <EpP> I only seem to enjoy commercial games. The opensource ones arent in-depth enough.
[06:20] <Taim> I can't seem to find any fixes or bug reports.
[06:20] <tanath_> Taim: which guide did you follow?
[06:20] <ubuntu> hello every1 though
[06:20] <ubuntu> :)
[06:20] <Taim> tanath, xcompiz.net guide.
[06:20] <Taim> er..
[06:20] <tanath_> Taim: undo your changes and use this one: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168618
[06:21] <tanath_> Taim: but make sure you have direct rendering for your vid card first
[06:21] <peace-keeper> the best about linux is that although many things you try dont work, there are always 1000 other things to try :D
[06:22] <bvali> can anyone help me with a sound system in dapper? I've got that background noise and can't get rid of it :|
[06:22] <tanath_> 'that' background noise?
[06:22] <Taim> tanath, As far as I can tell, it's the same instructions as found on compiz.net site.
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> tanath,  :P ya beat me to it.
[06:22] <Taim> same sources, etc...
[06:22] <tanath_> the only bg noise coming from my comp is music :P
[06:22] <Taim> It works fine.
[06:22] <KrakensDen> peace-keeper: where are you now?
[06:22] <Taim> It's synaptic that is busted.
[06:22] <Taim> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:22] <bvali> :) i've got a 5.1 surround sound system
[06:23] <bvali> and alsa keeps making some noise
[06:23] <ajmitch> DBO: ping
[06:23] <bvali> just cripples or dunno how to call them
[06:23] <tanath_> Taim: well, mine isn't, and i'm using xgl + compiz
[06:23] <KrakensDen> peace-keeper: you can find XFCE's session manager inside of the toolbox on the bottom bar
[06:23] <DBO> ajmitch, pong
[06:23] <ajmitch> DBO: help taim cleanup the libvte stuff? :)
[06:23] <peace-keeper> i think that toolbox disappeared :(
[06:23] <tanath_> Taim: i tried a few guides, and that's the one that worked
[06:23] <peace-keeper> only have a terminal and a firefox button
[06:23] <DBO> ajmitch, where?
[06:23] <eternalswd_away> Taim, someone was asking about that earlier.  Just search the forums for libvte and you should get a good post
[06:23] <DBO> ajmitch, oh here
[06:23] <ajmitch> DBO: here
[06:24] <Taim> Cool.
[06:24] <DBO> Taim, I know exactly what problem you have
[06:24] <ajmitch> maybe it could go in the topic
[06:24] <DBO> please join #ubuntu-xgl
[06:24] <peace-keeper> that menu with all categories and programs (Development, Network, System, etc.) is nowhere :(
[06:24] <DBO> we will handle it there
[06:24] <KrakensDen> peace-keeper: you still have a terminal, right?
[06:24] <peace-keeper> yep
[06:24] <Taim> DBO: schweet.
[06:24] <KrakensDen> type in xfce and then hit tab until you see a list of completions
[06:24] <peace-keeper> okay
[06:24] <ranquetat> join #ubuntu-br
[06:24] <KrakensDen> you should see a list of useful things :)
[06:24] <KrakensDen> like the desktop, bar, etc
[06:24] <peace-keeper> yeah i do :)
[06:25] <peace-keeper> i think i have to add a panel or something with the menu in it
[06:25] <KrakensDen> peace-keeper: xfce4-panel doesn't work?
[06:25] <KrakensDen> peace-keeper: I haven't used xubuntu for a while
[06:25] <DBO> Taim, where are you, please join #ubuntu-xgl
[06:25] <Rexkwando> I have a weird one... synaptic won't launch, yet "installer" will.  I tried uninstalling and reinstalling, no dice.
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> my xfce has a totally revamped interface from a few mo ago. :P
[06:26] <peace-keeper> hmm dont know... i only have 2 launchers for terminal and firefox... i have a taskbar, a system tray and that multiple desktop thing.... but no "main menu" (dont know the right name)
[06:26] <KrakensDen> peace-keeper: if you can get xfce to crash, please file a bug :)
[06:26] <tanath_> DBO: he just quit...
[06:26] <peace-keeper> :D
[06:26] <KrakensDen> peace-keeper: try the other apps in the list?
[06:26] <DBO> tanath_, saw that
[06:26] <tanath_> DBO: heh, apparently i just quit too
[06:26] <tanath_> wtf
[06:26] <Soccrmastr> tanath: its command-line only, but has all features needed. in the program you use, can you delete the files off the camera? because thats pretty much a neccesitty for me.
[06:27] <DBO> tanath_, your ghost did
[06:27] <tanath_> d'oh
[06:27] <taim> DBO: sorry about that.  That's anther issue I have to figure out (stupid ATI x600 card)
[06:27] <DBO> taim, please join #ubuntu-xgl, and we will fix you up
[06:27] <DBO> we can deal with that too
[06:27] <KrakensDen> peace-keeper: the dudes in #xubuntu might know better
[06:28] <tanath> Soccrmastr: i couldn't last time i tried, but it's easy enough to delete from the camera
[06:28] <peace-keeper> aahhh i want my windows xp back :D
[06:28] <peace-keeper> okay i try go there
[06:28] <peace-keeper> thx
[06:29] <abrocadabro> what's the command to automatically setup xorg.conf?
[06:29] <songo> i've installed a program and the folder had owner 500:500. i've changed it to root:root but I can cd to this folder without root. all the other folders has "drwxr-xr-x" this one has "drwxr-xr--" How to put an x on the end?
[06:29] <Goblyn> ok, i am running Ubuntu 6.06 Live on my laptop, and every time i activate my wireless card, it activates, then i go to check it, and it says it's not activated, any idea's?
[06:29] <KrakensDen> abrocadabro: dpkg --configure packagename?
[06:30] <peace-keeper> chmod o+x myfile
[06:30] <haasteem> crimsun: are you back?
[06:30] <KrakensDen> songo: chmod a+x foldername
[06:30] <abrocadabro> KrakensDen: but which package do I need to reconfigure?
[06:30] <Brocolis> hello people
[06:31] <KrakensDen> abrocadabro: I have no recollection
[06:31] <abrocadabro> KrakensDen: thanks got it, it's xserver-xorg
[06:31] <KrakensDen> abrocadabro: I take it xinit doesn't work?
[06:31] <Rexkwando> I have a weird one... synaptic won't launch, yet "installer" will.  I tried uninstalling and reinstalling, no dice.
[06:31] <songo> tanx
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> uninstalling and reinstalling - is 'windows thinking' :)
[06:32] <Goblyn> ok, i am running Ubuntu 6.06 Live on my laptop, and every time i activate my wireless card, it activates, then i go to check it, and it says it's not activated, any idea's?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> Rexkwando,  if ya run synaptic from a terminal with 'sudo synaptic' what does it say as an error?
[06:33] <KrakensDen> Goblyn: have you configured it to connect to a certain essid?
[06:33] <Rexkwando> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:33] <KrakensDen> Goblyn: if it isn't doing anything, it'll just turn off
[06:33] <Soccrmastr> tanath: there is a graphical interface for gphoto, with all the features of deleting the files, viewing the files, changing settings, lots of stuff. :) I wills tick with it thanks for your help man
[06:33] <tanath> Soccrmastr: yeh, i use gui
[06:33] <lufis> Off topic, but: Can anyone recommend a good Linux-supported soundcard? I don't want 5.1 and 3d effects, just a high-quality card with 2/2.1 speaker output, mic input, etc.
[06:33] <tanath> Soccrmastr: np
[06:34] <cfedde> lufis: nearly any of them gets you that far
[06:34] <Warbo> !info debootstrap
[06:34] <ubotu> debootstrap: Bootstrap a basic Debian system. In component main, is extra. Version 0.3.3.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 47 kB, installed size 240 kB
[06:34] <KrakensDen> lufis: I have an old sounblaster live!
[06:35] <thx4help> Why do people prefer Ubuntu over Debian nowadays?
[06:35] <KrakensDen> lufis: works like a charm, does hardware mixing, sounds nice
[06:35] <Goblyn> KrakensDen: how do i do that?
[06:35] <lufis> cfedde: Well, I've heard good things about Creative Audigy but I can't seem to find one that isn't way overpriced and way over what I need
[06:35] <tanath> Soccrmastr: is it in the repos?
[06:35] <KrakensDen> gob
[06:35] <KrakensDen> er
[06:35] <KrakensDen> Goblyn: click on the wireless card, hit 'edit'
[06:35] <Soccrmastr> tanath: yeah, get gphoto2 and gtkam
[06:35] <KrakensDen> Goblyn: in the networking dialog
[06:35] <Soccrmastr> tanath: gtkam is the ui
[06:35] <tanath> ah. thx
[06:36] <Soccrmastr> np
[06:36] <Goblyn> KrakensDen: you mean properties?
[06:36] <Rexkwando> Dr_Willis: error reads:  synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:36] <bisconer> arg i can download faster then i can burn a cd
[06:38] <KrakensDen> Goblyn: yup
[06:38] <KrakensDen> Goblyn: oops
[06:38] <Admin__> Is there a ssh Client (To log onto ssh) for windows
[06:38] <KrakensDen> Admin__: putty
[06:38] <naji> Admin__: cygwin
[06:38] <zenwhen> Admin__: putty
[06:38] <KrakensDen> Admin__: google it
[06:39] <typicalRunt> hi
[06:39] <KrakensDen> moin
[06:39] <Admin__> Googled it. Wasnt sure if they were for letting people log in or logging in.
[06:39] <KrakensDen> it's a client, not a server :)
[06:39] <typicalRunt> i'm using dapper with sqlite3 (v3.2.8-1ubuntu1).  anyone notice that "DROP TABLE IF EXISTS" doesn't work anymore?
[06:40] <typicalRunt> it fails on the "IF EXISTS" optional keywords
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> !info libvte
[06:42] <ubotu> Package libvte does not exist in dapper
[06:42] <Rexkwando> hmm
[06:42] <Rexkwando> yeah, I noticed that in my travels too
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> Rexkwando,  try sudo apt-get install libvte4
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> ' apt-cache search libvte4  '
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> shows all the related packages
[06:43] <Rexkwando> I did, it said not present
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> !info libvte4
[06:43] <ubotu> libvte4: Terminal emulator widget for GTK+ 2.0 - runtime files. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.12.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 661 kB, installed size 1416 kB
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> its libvte4 :P what did a try to install?
[06:44] <Rexkwando> it's libvte.so.4
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> thats the file name. the package name is libvte4
[06:44] <Rexkwando> it says that it's already installed and current
[06:44] <wweasel> Hey. I am having trouble with GRUB. I am trying to install Ubuntu via Instlux (my reasons for doing so are complicated, frustrating, and unavoidable). What it does is it puts a initrd.gz and a linux file in a folder on the c drive, and installs grub to get them.  I get an "Error 19: Cannot mount selected partition"
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> also theres libvte-common - Terminal emulator widget for GTK+ 2.0 - common files
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> Rexkwando,  its possible that file some how got currupted.
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> or your library path got messed up
[06:45] <KrakensDen> wweasel: what's the filesystem?
[06:46] <wweasel> KrakensDen: NTFS. I imagine that's the problem?
[06:46] <KrakensDen> wweasel: I don't think grub
[06:46] <KrakensDen> can actually read ntfs
[06:46] <Rexkwando> okay, I can accept that... any suggestions?
[06:46] <wweasel> KrakensDen: Can it do it if I pass the right kernel argument? Can it do FAT32?
[06:46] <KrakensDen> much more likely
[06:46] <KrakensDen> been a long time since I've done grub though :/
[06:48] <detectiveinspekt> hello
[06:48] <detectiveinspekt> I want a webmail program so people can check emails over the web
[06:49] <detectiveinspekt> on my server
[06:49] <zachwmrunner> hey guys
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> detectiveinspekt,  you got a email server on your own machine?
[06:49] <zachwmrunner> i just installed UbUnTu!!!!!!
[06:49] <detectiveinspekt> no
[06:49] <wweasel> Can GRUB boot off an external HD?
[06:49] <detectiveinspekt> i just have a standard install
[06:49] <wweasel> SOrry, that was poorly phrased.
[06:50] <Killeroid> wweasel: yeah
[06:50] <Rexkwando> Dr_Willis THANKS!  uninstalled and reinstalled libvte-common: fixed.
[06:50] <wweasel> Can GRUB instruct the computer to boot a partition located on an external HD? What about a CD-ROM drive?
[06:50] <Killeroid> wweasel: yeah
[06:50] <wweasel> CD-ROM too?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> detectiveinspekt, not cd i think
[06:51] <wweasel> next question: how?
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> unless its a new feature
[06:51] <wweasel> for CD
[06:51] <detectiveinspekt> I just need a simpile webmail server
[06:51] <wweasel> Dr_Willis: Are you talking to me about the CD?
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> heh proberly
[06:51] <Killeroid> wweasel: just specify the path to the boot files on the cd
[06:53] <sesho12345> hi , can anyone tell me how to find out the default gateway ?
[06:54] <KrakensDen> sesho12345: if you have a plastic nat [a linkys box, etc]  it's probably either 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.2.1
[06:54] <wweasel> Killeroid: the kernel argument normally had (hd0,0) or something of the sort. how would I do cd?
[06:54] <KrakensDen> sesho12345: but try using DHCP instead
[06:54] <wheels3572> Where can I find certain programs that I want.
[06:54] <KrakensDen> sesho12345: life is easier that way
[06:55] <wweasel> sesho12345: 192.168.0.1 is also possible.
[06:55] <KrakensDen> sesho12345: and just about everything is set up for it
[06:55] <wweasel> try all 3
[06:55] <KrakensDen> wheels3572: what programs?
[06:55] <wheels3572> KrakensDen, I am actually looking for an alarm program that i can set alarms
[06:56] <sesho12345> KrakensDen, i dont want to set up a network , im in someone elses house and trying to fix up a windows (!) connection , except that windows can't connect , so im using linux to get the networks info
[06:56] <CyDrive>  Can someone help me my sound will not work it just stopped working i tried re-booting but it still wont work i have not installed any new programs recently either
[06:56] <bruenig> !info sanduhr
[06:56] <ubotu> sanduhr: an alarm clock, which is designed as a hourglass. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-4 (dapper), package size 451 kB, installed size 1056 kB
[06:56] <bruenig> !info wmtimer
[06:56] <ubotu> wmtimer: A dockable alarm clock for WindowMaker. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.92-1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 112 kB
[06:57] <Maje> I can't get 3D acceleration working, xorg log says DRI initialization failed, and my OpenGL driver is fglrx_dri.so - anyone help me out here?
[06:57] <Killeroid> wweasel: you will use same convention. your cdrom drive will occup a new line with (cd0,0) or something like that
[06:57] <bruenig> wheels3572, there are a few alarm clocks that work on media players as well
[06:57] <bruenig> like xmms or beep media player
[06:57] <sesho12345> i think i found the solution though......"route"
[06:57] <farous> Maje: did you install the restricted modules package
[06:57] <sesho12345> KrakensDen, thank you anyway!
[06:57] <Maje> farous: yes
[06:58] <farous> Maje: what type of card
[06:58] <Maje> farous: ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
[06:58] <farous> Maje: did you reboot after installing fglrx. did you install from repos?
[06:58] <lmosher> Maje, i've got that exact card. How did you install the drivers?
[06:58] <wheels3572> bruenig, really?  So there is an alarm clock program on some of the media players?
[06:59] <Maje> farous: Yes, yes, yes
[06:59] <Maje> lmosher: I followed the instructions on the wiki.
[06:59] <lmosher> Maje, Which ones?
[06:59] <lmosher> the ones taht said download the package and change xorg.conf to fglrx?
[06:59] <farous> Maje: i have ati 9600 but lmosher can help you more as he have the same card
[06:59] <Maje> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:59] <bruenig> wheels3572, those two that I posted sanduhr and wmtimer, as well as things like xmms-alarm and bmp-alarm
[07:00] <bruenig> the last two are dependent on xmms and beep media player respectively
[07:00] <wheels3572> bruenig, I have xmms music player is that different then xmms-alarm?
[07:00] <Maje> lmosher: after following those instructions, I still don't have proper OpenGL (the Mesa bit)...so I looked in my xorg log, and it said DRI initialization failed
[07:00] <lmosher> Maje, Personally I suggest: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[07:00] <bruenig> wheels3572, xmms-alarm is a plugin
[07:00] <bruenig> !info xmms-alarm
[07:00] <ubotu> xmms-alarm: xmms general plugin for using xmms as an alarm clock.. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.7-1 (dapper), package size 26 kB, installed size 128 kB
[07:01] <bruenig> if you have the universe repository enabled just do sudo apt-get install xmms-alarm
[07:01] <atoponce> EpP: word.
[07:01] <Maje> lmosher: I think I tried those instructions at one point, too... :(
[07:01] <lmosher> Maje, If possible I would restore your xorg.conf to original, follow those instructions and reboot. If it doesn't work come back here, but I did that literally 10 minutes ago
[07:01] <EpP> atoponce, Word up
[07:01] <Maje> I did it before, but I'll try to clean everything up and do it again, let's hope i missed something the first time
[07:02] <tale_> I created a software raid array and now I want to remove it.  Can somebody tell me how to do that?
[07:02] <lmosher> Maje, Give it a shot, if not we'll take a look at the modules section. Other than that there's not much I can think of. Any ideas farous?
[07:03] <wweasel> Ok, How would I get GRUB to boot a Dapper install cd. I am at the prompt, I type e to edit the commands before booting. what do I put in for kernel and initrd?
[07:03] <FliesLikeABrick> I can't seem to get my swap to mount.  Whenever I reboot, I have no swap mounted.  I look in dmesg and it says "Unable to find swap-space signature."  I mkswap /dev/hda4 (my swap partition) and swapon and it works fine, but when I reboot it still won't work :-/
[07:03] <lmosher> wweasel, You can't configure your BIOS to boot the CD? it tries to boot the HDD?
[07:03] <Admin__> Im in my SSH!
[07:04] <bruenig> FilesLikeABrick, is it formatted properly in the fstab?
[07:04] <wheels3572> !xmms-alarm > wheels3572
[07:04] <FliesLikeABrick> yep bruenig appears to be
[07:04] <a-priori> FliesLikeABrick: is the entry right in /etc/fstab?
[07:04] <a-priori> err, bit slow there :)
[07:04] <bruenig> it has the sw option?
[07:04] <wweasel> lmosher: No, that would make sense, right? I want to install Ubuntu on a laptop that is BIOS locked.
[07:04] <FliesLikeABrick> if it wasn't in /etc/fstab right, it wouldn't be trying to mount it and therefore I wouldn't be getting this swap signature error
[07:04] <lordhelmet> hey i have an apache2 question, is anybody good with configuring it?
[07:04] <wweasel> lmosher: I have managed to get GRUB using Windows.
[07:04] <FliesLikeABrick> /dev/hda4 none swap sw 0 0
[07:04] <a-priori> FliesLikeABrick: it would do that if the device wasn't right
[07:04] <FliesLikeABrick> alright a-priori, though it is right
[07:05] <wheels3572> bruenig, Only 1 dumb question how the heck do I use the alarm system now lol
[07:05] <bruenig> FliesLikeABrick, should look like this /dev/hda4       none            swap    sw              0       0
[07:05] <lmosher> wweasel, hehe sorry I had to ask :P I can't help tho sorry I've never even tried that. You could look up the normal commands to boot a kernel and apply them to your CD drive (like /dev/hdc or whatever it is)
[07:05] <bruenig> wheels3572, no idea, probably something within xmms, go to options or whatever the proper dialogue window is in xmms. I have never used it
[07:05] <FliesLikeABrick> yes bruenig see what I said 2 messages ago, it looks the same
[07:05] <bruenig> ah
[07:05] <a-priori> FliesLikeABrick: hmm... looks fine to me
[07:06] <bruenig> sorry I was typing it out
[07:06] <wheels3572> bruenig, ok
[07:06] <FliesLikeABrick> when I try to do swapon /dev/hda4 without immediately doing "mkswap" right before it, I get "swapon: /dev/hda4: Invalid argument"
[07:06] <FliesLikeABrick> though if I mkswap /dev/hda4 first, it works
[07:06] <bruenig> FLiesLikeABrick, you could make a script that does the mkswap and swapon, and then have it run at startup
[07:06] <a-priori> FliesLikeABrick: does dmesg say anything useful after a failed swapon?
[07:06] <FliesLikeABrick> bruenig but the main reason I really want swap working is so I can hibernate my laptop again
[07:07] <FliesLikeABrick> no a-priori
[07:07] <lordhelmet> with mkswap you have to specify device/partition
[07:07] <FliesLikeABrick> I am lordhelmet
[07:07] <FliesLikeABrick> I'm just abbreviating what I'm saying because I don't feel like writing /dev/hda4 after everything I say
[07:08] <foxjwill> Hi. Synaptic won't open and Add/Remove programs quits after I press "apply" or "ok" (if I've selected things to be installed). I'm able to install things thru aptitude, but it's not as convenient
[07:08] <a-priori> FliesLikeABrick: this is a strange problem... is it possible that /dev/hda4 is being modified on bootup somehow to erase that signature?
[07:08] <FliesLikeABrick> thats what it would seem a-priori
[07:08] <bruenig> foxjwill, it is more convenient
[07:08] <foxjwill> well, i guess
[07:09] <FliesLikeABrick> I just compiled my own kernel.  I'm going to reboot into a packaged kernel and see if it works
[07:09] <foxjwill> but i just would like it to work
[07:09] <FliesLikeABrick> in the kernel config, is there something that can cause problems with swap?
[07:09] <bruenig> foxjwill, a lot of people have had problems after the an apparent update. I didn't get an update and am not having those problems. perhaps if you can roll back the updates it would work
[07:09] <a-priori> FliesLikeABrick: not that I know of...
[07:09] <bruenig> -an
[07:09] <foxjwill> how?
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> foxjwill,  run it from a terminal and see if theres an error message
[07:10] <foxjwill> ok
[07:10] <bruenig> foxjwill, I thought you said it already worked from terminal
[07:10] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah a-priori I didn't think so either.  Usually I can solve these kinds of problems on my own... but I had to come here this time :-/
[07:10] <foxjwill> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> also theres libvte-common - Terminal emulator widget for GTK+ 2.0 - common files
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> foxjwill,  some one was just in here.. he had to reinstall that package. libvte-common (i think)
[07:10] <foxjwill> ok
[07:10] <a-priori> FliesLikeABrick: another thing you could check is dumping the first sector of /dev/hda4 before and after mkswap
[07:10] <foxjwill> i'll try that
[07:10] <a-priori> see if anything changes
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> or one of the other libvte packages
 Dr_Willis THANKS!  uninstalled and reinstalled libvte-common: fixed
[07:11] <FliesLikeABrick> hm a-priori it seems to only be a problem with the kernel I compiled
[07:11] <FliesLikeABrick> I just rebooted into a ubuntu kernel and it mounted fine
[07:11] <a-priori> really?
[07:11] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah :-x
[07:11] <Maje> No go, and my xorg.log seems to be reporting the same DRI initialization problem
[07:12] <a-priori> could be the suspending, maybe?
[07:12] <FliesLikeABrick> a-priori it has the issue even without suspending
[07:12] <FliesLikeABrick> if I just reboot, it won't mount it proper on the next boot
[07:12] <spitzanator> Hi!  I've got two Opteron processors with Ubuntu, and for some reason, it's not detecting my second processor.  Any thoughts?  I think I need a kernel upgrade, but I don't know.  uname gives me this: 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:12] <FliesLikeABrick> or it mounts it properly once, then fails after that
[07:12] <FliesLikeABrick> let me reboot one more time to make sure
[07:12] <a-priori> okay
[07:12] <FliesLikeABrick> (this might have been the first boot after my mkswap)
[07:13] <FliesLikeABrick> if it mounts fine on the next boot, the last thing to try with the ubuntu kernel is suspending to disk
[07:13] <FliesLikeABrick> and resuming
[07:13] <fyrestrtr> spitzanator: is that a 64 bit processor?
[07:13] <FliesLikeABrick> if that works, then I'll try a slightly older 2.6.17 kernel.  If I can narrow it down to a specific version, I'll file a kernel bug report
[07:13] <Suspect> Hey everyone
[07:13] <spitzanator> It is, but I want to use the 32bit stuff.
[07:13] <bruenig> !offtopic > Suspect
[07:14] <FliesLikeABrick> sparkleytone what version of ubuntu?
[07:14] <Suspect> yes bruenig
[07:14] <Suspect> I am here for support
[07:14] <FliesLikeABrick> bruenig that isn't necessarily offtopic...
[07:14] <spitzanator> I want to run Wine, so I've been advised not to do a 64 bit installation.
[07:14] <Suspect> But I'm just saying hi
[07:14] <Suspect> :p
[07:14] <FliesLikeABrick> heh
[07:14] <fyrestrtr> spitzanator: try sudo apt-get linux-686
[07:14] <spitzanator> Will that give me SMP support?
[07:14] <FliesLikeABrick> spitzanator upgrade to a 686 kernel to make sure you have smp support (so it recognizes both processors)
[07:14] <FliesLikeABrick> yes spitzanator
[07:14] <spitzanator> And still let me have a 32bit installation?
[07:15] <Suspect> Stupid windows.. re-wrote the MBR (Or removed GRUB) and I am not sure how to get it back.. Whats the easiest way?
[07:15] <FliesLikeABrick> yes spitzanator
[07:15] <bruenig> !grub
[07:15] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:15] <tale_> can anybody help me remove a software raid partition?
[07:15] <spitzanator> You're wonderful.
[07:15] <FliesLikeABrick> I don't think the 386 kernel (defaullt during install) has SMP support
[07:15] <spitzanator> Thanks!
[07:15] <fyrestrtr> !grub > Suspect
[07:15] <Suspect> lmao
[07:15] <FliesLikeABrick> spitzanator you may want to try a kernel ending in amd64 so that you can have a 64 bit kernel with a 32 bit userland
[07:15] <spitzanator> I believe that that's over my head.
[07:15] <FliesLikeABrick> a-priori it mounted fine on another reboot.  going to test it with a suspend to disk and resume now
[07:16] <[dc] -nonda> ok i am new to linux i am trying to do gentoo right now but im thinking its a lil to hard form me is this easier
[07:16] <Suspect> thanks guys
[07:16] <foxjwill> yeah, it was that
[07:16] <[dc] -nonda> but i still want something challageing
[07:16] <FliesLikeABrick> spitzanator you won't see a difference, the 64 bit stuff is all behind the scenes
[07:16] <spitzanator> I'm 2 for 5 on Linux installations in my life, and I want this one to work.
[07:16] <FliesLikeABrick> I use this on my opteron servers
[07:16] <spitzanator> Ah.
[07:16] <foxjwill> something didn't work with that upgrade
[07:16] <spitzanator> But what's the userland thing?
[07:16] <bruenig> [dc] -nonda, yeah gentoo is not really a distro to start with
[07:16] <FliesLikeABrick> spitzanator userland means that your programs run in a 32 bit environment
[07:16] <FliesLikeABrick> but your kernel gets the advantage of a 64 bit system
[07:16] <spitzanator> FLAB, how would I set that up?  Also, heh.  Flab.
[07:17] <FliesLikeABrick> try apt-cache search linux-image | grep amd64
[07:17] <a-priori> FliesLikeABrick: alright, let me know how it goes
[07:17] <FliesLikeABrick> I'm not sure exactly what the kernel is named in ubuntu, my servers are debian
[07:17] <FliesLikeABrick> looks to be working a-priori
[07:17] <FliesLikeABrick> so I'll try a couple of other kernels tomorrow
[07:17] <Soccrmastr> tanath: is the app working for u?
[07:17] <spitzanator> FLAB, I'll check that out, but maybe in a bit.  Thanks though!
[07:17] <a-priori> okay... try starting again from the default kernel config
[07:17] <a-priori> and going from there
[07:18] <stopher> ladies and gentlemen: BlueEagle is da bomb!
[07:18] <Soccrmastr> stopher: should we run?
[07:18] <tanath> Soccrmastr: haven't tried. no pics to bother with at the moment
[07:18] <tanath> Soccrmastr: you?
[07:18] <Soccrmastr> tanath: ah, ok
[07:18] <stopher> lol only if you think you should BlueEagle
[07:18] <stopher> umm i mean Soccrmastr
[07:18] <Soccrmastr> tanath: yup works for me
[07:18] <Maje> alright lmosher, I tried all that, and it's still not working, xorg still whines about DRI initialization
[07:18] <FliesLikeABrick> a-priori I'm going to try going back to the latest 2.6.16 kernel with the same .config
[07:19] <Soccrmastr> lol, stopher, if hes "da bomb" shouldn't we all bne running from him!
[07:19] <a-priori> FliesLikeABrick: okay... it's probably some wonky setting in your custom .config
[07:19] <tanath> Soccrmastr: k. then prolly for me too
[07:19] <Soccrmastr> tanath: ok lol
[07:19] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah a-priori thats what I think too, but rather than going around and looking for settings, I'm going to first try the other kernel since that is easier
[07:20] <a-priori> alright
[07:20] <waggle7622frack> Anyone good with samba\networking?
[07:20] <FliesLikeABrick> I should know within half an hour (only takes 30 mins to compile on here fortunately)
[07:21] <FliesLikeABrick> I'm decent waggle7622frack but I may be too busy to answer your question, depending on what you need
[07:21] <FliesLikeABrick> the best thing to do is just ask and then see who answers
[07:21] <a-priori> only? :P
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> waggle7622frack,  :) depends on the question.
[07:21] <Soccrmastr> lol, who wnats to be a millionaire (german version) software malfunction, started blinking the right answer, before he said anything. sholda used linux ;)
[07:21] <Warbo> Soccrmastr: Did he win a million?
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> Soccrmastr,  seen that happen on the price is right tv show .
[07:22] <FliesLikeABrick> a-priori since swtiching to linux I've started just keeping and using older hardware for everyday use, though this isn't that old.  I was compiling on a 386 kernel before, so it should be faster once I install a 686 kernel
[07:22] <Soccrmastr> um, both answers r no
[07:22] <a-priori> yeah, that's the best strategy: fire off the question, no preamble, and see who responds... someone's bound to know what you're talking about.
[07:22] <torpedo|dog> Dr_Willis: I think most of The Price is Right is actually done by Secret People behind the scenes ;)
[07:22] <FliesLikeABrick> a-priori how long are you going to be around?
[07:22] <a-priori> FliesLikeABrick: okay, I was just pulling your leg
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> torpedo|dog,  the barker babes. :P
[07:22] <a-priori> I dunno, not too much longer
[07:22] <a-priori> maybe half an hour
[07:22] <waggle7622frack> My kde machine cant see anyone on my network but everyone on the network can see it and I can ping them.
[07:22] <tanath> Soccrmastr: yeah, works fine, but it's really friggin slow
[07:23] <Soccrmastr> torpedodog: lol I thought it was run by small chldren taken from third world countries and they have them running on hamster wheels
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> waggle7622frack,  the other machines are xp machines?
[07:23] <Soccrmastr> tanath: heh not for me
[07:23] <waggle7622frack> xp and ubuntu
[07:23] <torpedo|dog> Soccrmastr: never said what kind of people they were ;)
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> waggle7622frack,  you may want to try the smb4k samba browser. it seems to scan a little smarter.
[07:23] <Soccrmastr> tanath: you can use command line too, not slow at all
[07:23] <Soccrmastr> heh
[07:23] <torpedo|dog> Are there any risks involved in installing bootchart?
[07:24] <haasteem> hi, can the fact that i don't have any sound (onboard sound module) have anything to do with the fact that at boot "loading hardware drivers" and "PCMCIA services" both gave a fail%?
[07:24] <tanath> Soccrmastr: it's also unable to delete as well
[07:24] <torpedo|dog> For some reason, I get a little bit squeamish about my boot.
[07:24] <Soccrmastr> tanath: no its able to delete
[07:24] <waggle7622frack> Ok I'll try that. Thanks!
[07:24] <tanath> Soccrmastr: no. it's not
[07:24] <FliesLikeABrick> haasteem loading pcmcia services seems to fail on any desktop without pcmcia hardware, it is not something to worry about
[07:24] <FliesLikeABrick> waggle7622frack rather than trying to browse the network, just do \\computername to browse its' resources
[07:24] <Soccrmastr> tanath: you wanan bet before I prove you wrong
[07:24] <tanath> Soccrmastr: i am speaking from experience, so sure!
[07:25] <tanath> Soccrmastr: i just tried, and it failed
[07:25] <Soccrmastr> tanath: ok well have nothing to bet but ehre
[07:25] <Maje> Okay, it seems xorg has fglrx_dri.so as my OpenGL driver, but the file is nonexistant on my computer
[07:25] <Soccrmastr> tanath: in command line, --delete-all-files
[07:25] <tanath> no no
[07:25] <tanath> Soccrmastr: why would i want to do that?
[07:25] <Soccrmastr> tanath: in UI, filedelete photos
[07:26] <Soccrmastr> tanath: in UI, you can delete selected or all
[07:26] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: what about the loading hardware drivers failure? i get this message "udevd-event[4648]  run-program '/sbin/modprobe' abnormal exit"
[07:26] <Soccrmastr> tanath: havent looked at command line command for individual file deltions, but I'm sure ther eis one
[07:26] <Soccrmastr> tanath: run gphoto2 in terminal will show you all commands
[07:26] <FliesLikeABrick> haasteem does everything seem to work fine once the computer is booted?
[07:27] <tanath> meh, it's all good. i can delete very easy on the camera
[07:27] <Soccrmastr> tanath: lol you can delete fine on the program too
[07:27] <racarter> is there some known problem with playing asf files with mplayer on ubuntu?
[07:28] <tanath> Soccrmastr: nope. says failed
[07:28] <Soccrmastr> tanath: camera must be detected, and turned onto usb
[07:28] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: yeah... sofar it has, except for the sound (and there is something weird with my vmware installation now)
[07:28] <Soccrmastr> anyone know a reason why mplayer is loading the files then just saying stopped without ever playing them
[07:28] <tanath> Soccrmastr: yeh, i was viewing the thumbnails of the pics on it... which took forever to load
[07:28] <Soccrmastr> its working for soem videos, others its just stopping
[07:29] <Soccrmastr> tanath: fine, you win.... or do you??
[07:29] <FliesLikeABrick> haasteem if everything is working fine, then I'd say don't worry about those errors.  Your sound problems are likely due to some other configuration issue
[07:29] <stopher> okay now maybe someone else can help me.. when i log onto ubuntu text server, it gives me ext3-fs error (device hda1)  ext3_find_entry  reading directory # 81762 offset 0.  When I use sudo apt-get install *  it says ive been locked and read-only
[07:30] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: maybe... the worrying thing though is that if i boot from the live cd, i still get no sound
[07:30] <stopher> what's the problem here?
[07:30] <FliesLikeABrick> haasteem what sound card do you have?
[07:31] <SurfnKid> thank god my synaptic is back
[07:31] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick:  Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[07:31] <FliesLikeABrick> heh. via
[07:31] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick:  nothing special
[07:32] <FliesLikeABrick> haasteem for a problem this specific, try www.ubuntuforums.org and www.linuxquestions.org
[07:32] <FliesLikeABrick> IRC is generally a lot more useful for general questions ;)
[07:32] <PyroManiak> Anyone have any experience with remote X terminals?
[07:33] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: right
[07:33] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: there must be a solution...
[07:33] <FliesLikeABrick> exactly haasteem
[07:33] <FliesLikeABrick> sound issues are not uncommon, certain chipsets (especially onboard sound) have certain quirks
[07:33] <anon903> is azereus still available?
[07:34] <FliesLikeABrick> try opening your favorite media app and playing a song or something, then change what output plugin it is trying to use
[07:34] <FliesLikeABrick> googling the name of your chipset with "ubuntu" will likely help you find some useful information
[07:35] <anon903> where can i find azereus to install myself?
[07:35] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: ok
[07:35] <haasteem> anon903 the azureus website...
[07:35] <Jbirk> anon903:  It is in the repository
[07:35] <anon903> i've tried haasteem
[07:36] <anon903> it says its not Jbirk and i've updated
[07:36] <Jbirk> what do you mean it says it isn't me?
[07:36] <anon903> it says its not in the repository
[07:36] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: it is just so annoying, in breezy allworked fine, i upgrade... and it fails.... i have to say that the upgrade kicked me out at the very end so this may be a result of this...
[07:36] <anon903> package azureus has no installation canidate
[07:37] <Jbirk> You must not have enabled all of the repositories
[07:37] <Shadow_mil> any reason why xorg would not work on ubuntu?
[07:37] <anon903> i enabled all of them
[07:37] <Jbirk> Did you refresh?
[07:37] <anon903> yes
[07:37] <Jbirk> I know I searched for it and found it
[07:37] <chemaja> i cant believe how quiet it is in here right now
[07:37] <FliesLikeABrick> ah haasteem that may have something to do with it
[07:37] <chemaja> test
[07:37] <FliesLikeABrick> haasteem in a terminal, try doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:37] <Maje> Argh, can anyone help me figure out my 3D acceleration / figure out the DRI initialization error?
[07:37] <haasteem> anon903 the azureus website... not the repos
[07:38] <chemaja> oh, i was scrolled up :$
[07:38] <stopher> okay now maybe someone else can help me.. when i log onto ubuntu text server, it gives me ext3-fs error (device hda1)  ext3_find_entry  reading directory # 81762 offset 0.  When I use sudo apt-get install *  it says ive been locked and read-only
[07:38] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: tried that several times already, even with --force-yes, but to no result...
[07:38] <FliesLikeABrick> what happens when you do it? (don't paste here, just summarize)
[07:38] <haasteem> it seems as if it thinks that the upgrade finished properly
[07:39] <FliesLikeABrick> hm
[07:39] <FliesLikeABrick> what happened that interrupted the upgrade?
[07:39] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: it seems as if it thinks that the upgrade finished properly
[07:39] <Jbirk> It does exist
[07:39] <Jbirk> package
[07:39] <Jbirk> azureus
[07:39] <Jbirk> Maintainer Shaun Jackman
[07:39] <FliesLikeABrick> Jbirk azureus only exists in certain repos, I'm not sure which
[07:39] <Jbirk> section Networking (universe)
[07:39] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: it gave some error
[07:39] <FliesLikeABrick> multiverse maybe
[07:39] <FliesLikeABrick> haasteem what about apt-get install -f ?
[07:39] <Jbirk> I turned them all on and updated
[07:39] <Jbirk> it showed up
[07:40] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: i don't exactly remember what it was.... it was setting up firestarter.... error 3 i believe it said
[07:40] <anon903> its not showing up for me Jbirk
[07:40] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: 0 upgrade
[07:40] <anon903> i have all of them updated
[07:41] <FliesLikeABrick> haasteem off to the forums you go ;)
[07:41] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: :) :(
[07:41] <haasteem> anon903: i also have it in my repos
[07:41] <FliesLikeABrick> best of luck to you haasteem and have a good night.  You'll get it working eventually and you'll likely learn a ton in the process of fixing it
[07:42] <haasteem> anon903: but if you don't, go to the azureus website
[07:42] <Jbirk> Install Java
[07:42] <Jbirk> Sun Java
[07:42] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: thanks for the help
[07:42] <Phirax_On_Laptop> .
[07:42] <anon903> have it
[07:42] <Jbirk> I first turned on all my universes
[07:42] <Jbirk> Next, I reloaded my repositories
[07:42] <nomad111> hi everyone i need some help installing ubuntu on an external drive, i cant partition the drive because it says its busy, What do i do???
[07:42] <Jbirk> I then installed Sun Java
[07:42] <anon903> it says that it couldnt download all repository indexes
[07:42] <Jbirk> and set it as the alternative
[07:42] <Jbirk> Next Azureus
[07:43] <Jbirk> It rulns like a champ
[07:43] <Jbirk> Hum
[07:43] <Maje> anyone been able to get a Radeon 9800 Pro working 3D acceleration?
[07:43] <Jbirk> $sudo apt-get update
[07:43] <Jbirk> $sudoe apt-get upgrade
[07:43] <Jbirk> do both
[07:43] <deFrysk> -e
[07:43] <Jbirk> sudo not sudoe though
[07:43] <anon903> i know
[07:43] <Flannel> and, you dont type the $ either
[07:43] <anon903> i've done all that
[07:44] <Jbirk> Something isn't quite right then
[07:44] <anon903> i dont know what though
[07:44] <Jbirk> Are you running 6.0.6.1?
[07:44] <anon903> its saying some of the indexes couldnt be found
[07:44] <anon903> breezy
[07:44] <Jbirk> Are you running the latest and greatest?
[07:44] <Flannel> 6.06, theres no second dot, and theres no .1, thats only for ISOs
[07:44] <anon903> na i liked 5.10 better
[07:44] <Jbirk> sorry
[07:44] <Jbirk> Oh
[07:44] <Flannel> Jbirk: just letting you know ;)
[07:44] <Jbirk> I am doing 6.06
[07:45] <anon903> i had it on my other computer
[07:45] <Jbirk> Sorry about that, and I am glad you let me  know.  I stand corrected.  What does LTS mean?
[07:45] <Flannel> anon903: what you looking for?
[07:45] <anon903> so something with this one isnt quite right
[07:45] <anon903> azureus
[07:45] <judicata> Long Term Support
[07:45] <Phirax_On_Laptop> hi, I'm having a problem, which appears to be an issue with ubuntu and my ati video card, at first i found i couldn't startx on the installer.. the monitor would just loose signal as soon as x initiated, i got round that by using the tesxt install and installing the ati fglrx drivers, now i can load x, but i can't shutdown/reboot/switch to console, my machine looses display and appears to lockup, any ideas?
[07:45] <anon903> what release of it do i download from the site haasteem ?
[07:46] <Flannel> anon903: azureus isn't in breezy. however...
[07:46] <Flannel> !tell anon903 about azureus
[07:46] <anon903> thats why then
[07:46] <thebishop> Would anyone like it  if Network Manager had an Internet Connection Sharing dialog?
[07:46] <anon903> this laptop is running 6.06
[07:46] <anon903> my desktop is running 5.10
[07:46] <judicata> Phirax: which ATI card do you have?
[07:46] <Flannel> You can still install it on 5.10, see the link ubotu sent you
[07:46] <buddhalover>  I can't open Synaptic. Can't sudo reboot from Terminal. Had to Force Quit Add/Remove. It's going nuts. I'm going nuts. Help anyone?
[07:47] <Phirax_On_Laptop> jrib: Radeon x850xt
[07:48] <stopher> when i log onto ubuntu text server, it gives me ext3-fs error (device hda1)  ext3_find_entry  reading directory # 81762 offset 0.  When I use sudo apt-get install *  it says ive been locked and read-only
[07:48] <Phirax_On_Laptop> jrib: i'm previously a redhat/fedora user, never had this problem, just thought i'd give ubuntu a whril
[07:48] <remu> hey guys
[07:49] <judicata> phirax: did you tinker with fglrx-controls?
[07:49] <anon903> when i try the wget method for azureus i get a 404
[07:49] <qazqaz70> hello all
[07:50] <anon903> wget http://ftp.egr.msu.edu/debian/pool/contrib/a/azureus/azureus_2.4.0.2-1_all.deb
[07:50] <anon903> is that still good?
[07:50] <buddhalover> Synaptic won't even load.
[07:50] <remu> im a linux virgin for the most part, but i am very much interested in switching to it...however, before i do, i did have some concerns, such as the fact that im running a compaq v3010ca laptop with a broadcom wireless card, the live cd doesnt recognize it, is there someway to get this wireless card to work...that is the most major concern of mine
[07:50] <qazqaz70> i want help ... can anyone help me ?
[07:50] <Jhair> !debian
[07:50] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded". To see more details on the relationship, see: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[07:51] <Jhair> anon903: that's not an ubuntu package. Go to #debian for help
[07:51] <remu> switching to ubuntu even
[07:51] <Phirax_On_Laptop> judicata: i don't seem to have that installed
[07:51] <anon903> why is it in the ubuntu.com help then?
[07:51] <qazqaz70> i want help ... i want know how can i use other language same windows ? i mean in one user
[07:52] <Phirax_On_Laptop> judicata: i've only got, fgl_glxgears, fglrxinfo, fglrx_xgamma
[07:52] <Jhair> anon903: I don't know. The URL you are trying is not an ubuntu package.
[07:52] <anon903> alright thanks Jhair
[07:52] <qazqaz70>  i want help ... i want know how can i use other language same windows ? i mean in one user
[07:52] <anon903> i'm just gonna get it off the azureus site and try that way
[07:53] <fdsd> hey guys, How do I see all packages that are installed?
[07:53] <anon903> can i make it so i can save files from my ubuntu partition to my windows?
[07:53] <Flannel> anon903: not safely
[07:54] <anon903> what are the dangers?
[07:54] <Flannel> anon903: well, you can save in a fat partition, but linux can't safely write NTFS yet
[07:54] <anon903> damn
[07:54] <anon903> its in ntfs
[07:54] <anon903> isnt linux in ntfs?
[07:54] <qazqaz70> i mean how can i use two language same time ?
[07:55] <qazqaz70> please help me
[07:55] <fdsd> hey guys, How do I see all packages that are installed?
[07:55] <FirstStrike> anon903: check out ntfs-3g
[07:55] <anon903> are you in synaptic fdsd ?
[07:55] <qazqaz70> i want use two language same time
[07:55] <Phirax_On_Laptop> Flannel: yeah it would be nice is MS released enough info so it can be done safely
[07:55] <FirstStrike> they've tested it out writing and deleting files to NTFS partitions millions of times with it
[07:55] <judicata> anon: no.  You can create a new partition in Fat32, and both windows and linux can read and write to it.
[07:55] <FirstStrike> and no issues so far
[07:56] <remu> can some one help me out? im wondering about drivers for my broadcom wireless card
[07:56] <fdsd> anon903, command line
[07:56] <strotfest> remu, my broadcom-based wi-fi card (belkin 54g, bcm4318) required that i use ndiswrapper to get it to work in dapper
[07:57] <strotfest> remu, some broadcom cards work in dapper out of the box with an open source module (bcm43xx) but not all
[07:57] <strotfest> remu, there's a thread on the forums about it, let me see if i can dig it up for you
[07:57] <remu> can i use that ndiswrapper with the livecd, so i can test to see if itll actually work with ubuntu and my wireless card, cause if not....well, my switching to ubuntu depends on the wireless card primarily....that and my ipod
[07:57] <haasteem> anon903: the most recent one i guess.... i run 2.4.0.2 without a problem and i didn't install it from the repos
[07:57] <anon903> alright its downloaded
[07:58] <strotfest> remu, unless you have your heart set on using itunes you shouldn't have much trouble with the ipod i think...banshee, amarok, and a few other players seem to handle it alright, though i haven't tested it out much myself
[07:58] <anon903> its tar xfz isnt it
[07:58] <fdsd> what does ubuntu read when it starts up? rc0.d rc1.d rc2.d rc3.d rc4.d rc5.d rc6.d or rcS.d?
[07:58] <anon903> to open .tar.bz2 ?
[07:58] <fdsd> jxvf
[07:58] <remu> i dont have a problem with using otherstuff, as long as they will handle my play count, and my ratings
[07:59] <strotfest> remu, i'm pretty sure amarok will handle that stuff fine...it's pretty loaded
[07:59] <remu> cool cool
[08:00] <remu> now, are there skins and themes available for ubuntu, i tried doing a few google searches for it, to no avail
[08:00] <weirdo> i have a problem with the desktop iso
[08:00] <weirdo> i stuck it in my laptop drive and tried the first option
[08:00] <fdsd> what does ubuntu read when it starts up? rc0.d rc1.d rc2.d rc3.d rc4.d rc5.d rc6.d or rcS.d?
[08:00] <strotfest> remu, i don't know if you can get your wireless working via ndiswrapper while in a livecd session...looks doubtful
[08:00] <remu> darn it
[08:00] <strotfest> remu, http://art.gnome.org has some stuff
[08:00] <weirdo> and it stops at Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel.
[08:01] <richee> hey folks I want the man page for all the C function like strcpy
[08:01] <remu> i dont mind installing ubuntu...aslong as ndiswrapper works with my broadcom
[08:01] <richee> which package do I need to install ?
[08:01] <dsas> remu: also see art.ubuntu.com
[08:01] <thebishop> remu: ndiswrapper works with my 4318
[08:01] <thebishop> works perfectly
[08:01] <remu> i dont know the exact model number, cause its built into my laptop, and i havent been able to find the model number for it
[08:01] <fdsd> Hey Guys, what does ubuntu read when it starts up? rc0.d rc1.d rc2.d rc3.d rc4.d rc5.d rc6.d or rcS.d?
[08:01] <thebishop> remu,  what's your laptop model #?
[08:01] <dsas> fdsd: it goes up to rc2.d
[08:01] <remu> compaq v3010ca
[08:01] <richee> anyone can help ?
[08:02] <thebishop> remu, you currently running windows?
[08:02] <fdsd> dsas, so by default it only reads rc2.d?
[08:02] <remu> yup yup
[08:02] <anon903> haasteem, do you remember how to install azureus of the top of your head?
[08:02] <remu> currently on xp
[08:02] <thebishop> remu, open your device manager
[08:02] <remu> done
[08:02] <thebishop> select your wireless nic
[08:03] <remu> done
[08:03] <thebishop> double click it
[08:03] <remu> done
[08:03] <strotfest> remu, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102 i believe this is the thread i used to get mine working
[08:03] <thebishop> Driver Details
[08:04] <remu> mmk
[08:04] <remu> done
[08:04] <remu> thanks strotfest
[08:04] <strotfest> anytime :D
[08:04] <thebishop> there's going to be a line that says "Vendor ID" or "Device ID"
[08:04] <thebishop> i'm looking to find exactly where it is
[08:04] <haasteem> anon903: good question... it's been a while...
[08:04] <weirdo> anyone know whats wrong with my installation?
[08:04] <anon903> i have the .tar.bz2 package
[08:05] <remu> thebishop: no man, its not in driver details
[08:05] <dsas> fdsd: It runs /etc/rcS.d then /etc/rc2/d I think
[08:05] <remu> in details there is driver instance id
[08:05] <haasteem> anon903: so you unpack it...
[08:05] <haasteem> anon903: do you have java installed?
[08:05] <thebishop> remu, gimmie a sec...
[08:05] <anon903> yea
[08:05] <remu> ok
[08:05] <spring> hi i installed VMWare Server on kubuntu successfully, now where can i get virtual machine for winXP?? i googed to no avail
[08:06] <anon903> sorry i'm use to dpkg
[08:06] <dsas> spring: You have to create one yourself. Microsoft tend to not give away machine images of windows :)
[08:06] <Jbirk> What do I use to burn a CD from Ubuntu?
[08:06] <Jbirk> and to rip it?
[08:06] <haasteem> anon903: that's ok... whenever i can i use synaptic
[08:06] <spring> also i can't seem to find VMware-mui-*.tar.gz
[08:07] <haasteem> anon903: but you must have java installed... otherwise azureus won't run
[08:07] <anon903> acidrip works pretty well Jbirk
[08:07] <Maje> alright, can someone please help me out here, it seems i'm missing the DRI module
[08:07] <anon903> i have it
[08:07] <dsas> Jbirk: For music? rip using soundjuicer burn using rhythmbox
[08:07] <thebishop> remu, its the Details tab
[08:07] <thebishop> double click the wifi
[08:07] <foxjwill> Hi. For some reason, the 'info' command won't work anymore. the output is as follows:
[08:07] <foxjwill> info: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:07] <spring> greaaat there must be someone who had created it
[08:07] <tyler_d> how do I resume torrents using BitTorrent
[08:07] <spring> jbirk: use kb3, real easy
[08:07] <thebishop> remu, "Device Instance ID"
[08:08] <remu> PCI\VEN_14E4&DEV_4311&SUBSYS_1363103C&REV_01\4&1D43C852&0&0010
[08:08] <remu> thats what it says under device instance id
[08:08] <strotfest> ah, 4311 i would think
[08:08] <thebishop> you have the Broadcom 4311
[08:08] <remu> yea....
[08:08] <remu> interesting
[08:08] <thebishop> i think that will actually work with the open source driver, with the firmware
[08:08] <snoops> how can I lock a package version from cli not using synaptic?
[08:08] <thebishop> its up to you
[08:09] <thebishop> you could follow a fwcutter tutorial
[08:09] <remu> how is that?
[08:09] <thebishop> or you could use Ndiswrapper
[08:09] <remu> whats the best/easiest/best way of doing things
[08:09] <remu> lol, like, what will get me the best performance
[08:09] <Jbirk> If I throw my memory stick in the trash, will it dismount?
[08:09] <Jbirk> Or will it delete all the stuff on it?
[08:09] <thebishop> remu,  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[08:09] <remu> i can kill this machine....im still in the 14 day return policy....plus i work at best buy where i bought this, lol
[08:10] <thebishop> remu, do that first, if that doesn't work, then ndiswrapper
[08:10] <remu> if that works, ill know it via the livecd?
[08:10] <remu> or only through actually installing it
[08:10] <thebishop> remu,  you haven't done livecd yet?
[08:10] <thebishop> remu,  there's a decent shot it'll work out of the box
[08:10] <remu> i have the livecd sitting next to me
[08:10] <remu> no it didnt
[08:11] <remu> i tried
[08:11] <thebishop> ok
[08:11] <remu> i even installed it, but then put windows back
[08:11] <remu> but if i do the tutorial thing ur showing me, it should work with the live cd even?
[08:11] <thebishop> well, the bcm43xx driver module needs the firmware, which ubuntu doesn't ship for legal reasons
[08:11] <snoops> anyone? locking package versions in apt without using synaptic?
[08:11] <remu> aha, fair enough
[08:12] <thebishop> remu, i think you could get it working with the live cd, but it would take a few command line commands
[08:12] <bruenig> "command line commands"
[08:12] <fdsd> Hey guys, How do I see all installed Applications via the command line?
[08:12] <remu> interesting
[08:12] <Jhair> fdsd: dpkg -l
[08:13] <remu> the guide u sent me, im skiming over it as we speak...do i do that while running ubuntu....im guessing thats the case
[08:13] <thebishop> remu, once you have the firmware file, you could put it on a thumbdrive and load it when the live cd starts up
[08:13] <thebishop> remu, yep
[08:13] <afflux> morgen...
[08:13] <remu> wonderful
[08:13] <SquareGuy> fdsd, can try aptitude
[08:13] <remu> or i could just get it via my ethernet when im on the live cd
[08:14] <remu> Okay so you have a wireless card that shows up in ubuntu but doesnt connect to any wireless network?
[08:14] <remu> The reason the card shows up but doesnt work is because ubuntu is only distributed with its driver (so it can recognize it) not with its firmware (so it can USE it) for legal reasons.
[08:14] <remu> my card doesnt even show up tho
[08:14] <thebishop> remu, gimmie a sec, i'll get you the firmware file
[08:14] <spring> hi VMware ESX Server 1.5.2 Patch 5 is incompatible for VMWare server 1.0, right???
[08:15] <thebishop> remu, your card doesn't show up at all?
[08:15] <bruenig> just looking at the numbers seems like it would be
[08:15] <remu> no, it doesnt show up at all
[08:16] <remu> the guide u sent me ive looked at before, but when i got to that line, i didnt go further
[08:16] <remu> cause mine doesnt even show up
[08:16] <thebishop> remu, type this into a command-line: lspci | Broadcom
[08:16] <thebishop> er
[08:16] <remu> umm....hold on
[08:16] <thebishop> remu, type this into a command-line: lspci | grep Broadcom
[08:16] <remu> i can pop the livecd in my system, and come back on here running the live cd ubuntu....is there an irc program in there?
[08:17] <Maje> alright, can someone please help me out here, it seems i'm missing the DRI module
[08:17] <bruenig> remu, gaim
[08:17] <remu> on the livecd?
[08:17] <remu> gaim....okay...ill be back in a few then bishop
[08:17] <Flannel> remu: irssi as well
[08:17] <remu> alrighty, well ill be right back bishop
[08:17] <thebishop> k
[08:20] <Volvo> is there an internal firewall included with ubuntu 6.04 LTS ?
[08:20] <Jbirk> IPTABLES
[08:20] <Jbirk> Built into the Linux Kernel
[08:20] <Jbirk> You will need something like Shorewall to configure it unless you are ultra pro at config files
[08:21] <Volvo> well right now I am using Firestarter for the purpose
[08:21] <Volvo> but yes will look into IPTables
[08:22] <Volvo> any specific website to teach basics for IPTABLES i m new to this
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> !firewall
[08:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[08:22] <Volvo> ok thanks
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> Volvo: you probably want firestarter
[08:23] <Volvo> i have firestarter, installed it last night
[08:23] <Volvo> along antivirus, aegis scanner but i cann't find aegis
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> for antivirus, try clamav
[08:24] <Madpilot> Volvo, Ubuntu doesn't really need an antivirus
[08:24] <BenB__> Hello, does anyone have an idea where I could get warty-4.10.iso ?
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> try the ubuntu mirrors, but you know warty is no longer supported, right?
[08:24] <Volvo> well madpilot >> sure but i just wanted to learn all this
[08:25] <BenB__> why isn't it?
[08:25] <BenB__> can't I run iso files from it?
[08:25] <Flannel> BenB__: it's more than 18 months old
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> why don't you use dapper?
[08:25] <Madpilot> BenB__, because it's the oldest version of Ubuntu
[08:25] <BenB__> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-797.html
[08:25] <Volvo> fyrestrtr i m using Drappy
[08:25] <BenB__> here's what I'm trying to do
[08:25] <Flannel> BenB__: Ubuntu releases are supported for 18 months (except LTS ones)
[08:25] <BenB__> scroll to the last post
[08:26] <Flannel> BenB__: you want to install over a network?
[08:26] <BenB__> nope
[08:26] <BenB__> just a PC
[08:26] <Flannel> Just, pop the CD in
[08:26] <BenB__> I just said I can't
[08:27] <BenB__> Oh I didn't press enter
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> BenB__: what's the issue then? Just download the dapper iso image, burn it, and boot your machine from it.
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> BenB__: why not?
[08:27] <Flannel> BenB__: so, you want to do a netinstall then, right?
[08:27] <BenB__> because my CD drive is broken :p
[08:27] <BenB__> I can't do that aswell
[08:27] <BenB__> I tried, but this damn WLAN adapter
[08:27] <Flannel> BenB__: that's what this page is suggesting
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> BenB__: what good is a warty iso to you then?
[08:27] <Jbirk> I need some help with shorewall.  Does anyoen know a good tutorial?
[08:27] <BenB__> then I can load the ISO from HD
[08:27] <Flannel> BenB__: You don't need warty, you can install with any version, here's a good url of various install methods
[08:28] <BenB__> and run it
[08:28] <Flannel> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[08:28] <Jbirk> I would also like to make a partition image of my Ubuntu comp any ideas what program?  Perhaps  partimage?
[08:28] <fyrestrtr> Jbirk: the shorewall website has very nice tutorials.
[08:28] <Flannel> BenB__: that'll cover all your bases, you should be able to get something to work.  And, you don't need warty, Dapper should work just as well (get the alternate ISO)
[08:28] <BenB__> I have no idea what Dapper is (:
[08:29] <Jbirk> I just want to firewall to Internet traffic
[08:29] <Greenbox> Hi, I'm having problems with my sound on an Intel ICH chipset with the snd-intel8x0 alsa driver
[08:29] <Volvo> which software you guys use for backup, i want to backup everything present on this h.d.d specifically under ubuntu and then write it on dvd
[08:29] <BenB__> I basically can't use neither CD or Floppy
[08:29] <Flannel> BenB__: dapper is the newest version, released last june.  Warty was released in October of 04 (4.10)
[08:29] <remu> thebishop: im back, and running off of the ubuntu livecd
[08:29] <Greenbox> a live CD can use it fine, but when alsa probes for the PCI card it's undetected
[08:29] <BenB__> that means the only choice is from HD
[08:29] <fyrestrtr> Volvo: I just use k3b
[08:29] <Volvo> is it good ?
[08:29] <Flannel> BenB__: read that page, you'll find something.
[08:29] <thebishop> remu, ok
[08:29] <BenB__> alright
[08:29] <thebishop> remu, lspci | grep Broadcom
[08:29] <remu> in the terminal, correct?
[08:30] <Volvo> is it only for KDE or supports GNOME as well
[08:30] <Madpilot> Volvo, if you're running Ubuntu, Nautilus (the file manager) can burn CDs & DVDs nicely. No need to install k3b
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> Volvo: supports both.
[08:30] <BenB__> by the way, is 248MB RAM enough to install Ubuntu?
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> Volvo: just pop in a blank dvd.
[08:30] <Volvo> cool
[08:30] <Jbirk> How do you have Nautilus burn a CD?
[08:30] <Awesome-o2000> I just wanted to thank you guys. This is the first time i've used a precompiled distro and havent had any major problems
[08:30] <thebishop> remu, yeah in the terminal
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> Jbirk: just insert a blank cd or dvd.
[08:30] <Madpilot> Jbirk, stick a blank CD in, you should get a popup
[08:30] <Jbirk> let me find one
[08:30] <BenB__> actually even less say 230MB RAM
[08:31] <Awesome-o2000> I would like to know if theres a way to keep dhcp from adding the "search" line to my /etc/resolv.conf ?
[08:31] <Carmen-> how do i mount things thru samba?
[08:31] <fyrestrtr> BenB__: to 'install' it, yes. To use it? Depends on what you use it for.
[08:31] <remu> Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4311 (rev 01)
[08:31] <ydong> BenB__: should be no problem
[08:31] <remu> thats what it said
[08:31] <fyrestrtr> Carmen-: smbmount
[08:31] <BenB__> alright thanks
[08:31] <Jbirk> that will mount a windows partition on samba
[08:31] <Jbirk> wow
[08:31] <Jbirk> I can make an audio cd
[08:32] <thebishop> remu: ok
[08:32] <thebishop> remu, any numbers?
[08:32] <remu> 0000:01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4311 (rev 01)
[08:32] <remu> thats all of it
[08:32] <thebishop> ok good
[08:32] <remu> awsome
[08:32] <Awesome-o2000> I was under the impression that the "search" line of my /etc/resolv.conf was supposed to have my "fully resolved domain name" in it, which behind my linksys says wan and when hooked directly to the modem gives me 12-218-146-224.client.mchsi.com
[08:33] <Carmen-> Hey i mounted my Ubuntu installation and i wanna BackUP it thru samba
[08:33] <thebishop> remu, but you're saying in Networking, there's no device
[08:33] <thebishop> ?
[08:33] <Carmen-> how is it possible to do?
[08:33] <remu> yep
[08:33] <Awesome-o2000> i would really appreciate a clue here because whenever i have a URL that doesnt connect it keeps bouncing the signal back at me
[08:33] <remu> in networking, it shows ethernet connection, and modem connection
[08:33] <thebishop> remu, lsmod | grep bcm
[08:33] <remu> and thats it
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: no, the search line is the domain that your dhcp will search for unresolved host names. So if your search is 'foo.com' -- then if you type hello, it will search for hello.foo.com
[08:34] <remu> it just went to a blank line after that command
[08:34] <Awesome-o2000> fyrestrtr, hmph - is there a way I can make that just plain old .com
[08:34] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: you don't want to do that.
[08:34] <thebishop> remu, sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[08:35] <Awesome-o2000> fyrestrtr, I'd prefer to just remove that search altogether then, if possible
[08:35] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: instead, use the gnome networking applet, remove the domain from the search list.
[08:35] <remu> another blank line after that
[08:35] <Jbirk> Thanks guys
[08:35] <thebishop> remu, now open Networking
[08:35] <Awesome-o2000> fyrestrtr, how do I keep it from being added whenever i reboot?
[08:35] <Jbirk> I am more impressed with Ubuntu the more I use it
[08:35] <Jbirk> It is the first distro that actually works for me perfectly
[08:35] <Awesome-o2000> fyrestrtr, also im not too hot on using the GUI tools although I like them
[08:35] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: you need to fiddle with dhcp for that.
[08:35] <Jbirk> Each time I think somethign is going to be challenging, something just works
[08:35] <Jbirk> like burning CDS
[08:35] <Jbirk> I just burned a CD no problem
[08:36] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf <-- replace vi with whatever editor you like.
[08:36] <Awesome-o2000> fyrestrtr, yeah I get that - any idea what manual I should be reading to figure that out?
[08:36] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: I think this is something to do with your dhcp server, not the client.
[08:36] <remu> still no wireless card under connections
[08:36] <Awesome-o2000> HMMM thats REALLY odd - its my linksys
[08:36] <Madpilot> Jbirk, once you get used to how easy CD/DVD burning is in Ubuntu, you'll swear even more about how hard it is in other OSes :)
[08:36] <Awesome-o2000> I wonder how I can turn that off
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: just set your machine to have a static ip.
[08:37] <buddhalover> I have lost the ability to reboot with the sudo reboot command on Terminal. I get this message.
[08:37] <buddhalover> sudo: unable to lookup gregor-desktop via gethostbyname()
[08:37] <Awesome-o2000> static via dhcp :D
[08:37] <Jbirk> Yes, I know
[08:37] <Jbirk> Even in Widnows it is harder
[08:37] <thebishop> remu, lsmod | grep bcm
[08:37] <Awesome-o2000> besides thats the local dns server
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: just pick an ip address outside of the dhcp pool
[08:37] <Jbirk> Heck with XP if you burn a CD, sometimes it takes 2 or 3 tries to get it to start to burn
[08:37] <BenB__> Flannel each installation method there requires either a removable device or an internet connection
[08:37] <Madpilot> Jbirk, XP makes it stupidly hard to burn stuff... XP even makes it hard to mount a USB thumbdrive, FFS... :|
[08:37] <Awesome-o2000> fyrestrtr, bbiab - fiddling, thank you
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: if linksys assigns you 192.168.0.10 - 150, set your machine to be either 192.168.0.9, or 192.168.0.151
[08:38] <Jbirk> You just plugin a usb thubdrive and it mounts
[08:38] <nismos> damn
[08:38] <BenB__> and I found no information about Dapper
[08:38] <Jbirk> Don't know what FFS is though
[08:38] <remu> bcm43xx               127244  0
[08:38] <remu> ieee80211softmac       32640  1 bcm43xx
[08:38] <remu> ieee80211              39240  2 bcm43xx,ieee80211softmac
[08:38] <Jbirk> Probably an unsuported xp filesystem
[08:38] <Flannel> BenB__: no, there are some that don't.  Although, to be honest, if you have no CDrom, and no internet connection, how are you planning on getting the ISO on the computer to begin with?
[08:38] <remu> thats what came up after i did the lsmod this time
[08:38] <BenB__> FFS = For Fuck Sake
[08:38] <nismos> I used to be a faithful linux fan
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: then just make the default gateway 192.168.0.1, the dns server 192.168.0.1 and then your ISP's dns servers.
[08:38] <nismos> Im disappointed
[08:38] <BenB__> Flannel connecting another HD and movingi tg
[08:38] <DBO> !language > BenB__
[08:38] <BenB__> already have it on the HD
[08:39] <BenB__> ?
[08:39] <nismos> lights went off and when I turn the system back on Ubunto won't boot
[08:39] <remu> still no wireless card in connections
[08:39] <fyrestrtr> nismos: so, how again is that linux (or ubuntu's) fault?
[08:39] <Killeroid> hehe
[08:39] <Madpilot> nismos, does the computer start up OK?
[08:39] <nismos> UDEV input/output errors and the machine won't boot beyond the user scripts
[08:39] <nismos> yes
[08:39] <nismos> starts with knoppix and xp
[08:40] <buddhalover> ,,, Hello. Can anyone help me in private? :)
[08:40] <Madpilot> nismos, ouch...
[08:40] <thebishop> remu, cd /etc/modprobe.d
[08:40] <Flannel> BenB__: what do you have on the computer currently?
[08:40] <DBO> Madpilot, have him fsck
[08:40] <thebishop> remu, vim aliases
[08:40] <BenB__> the ISO file
[08:40] <Jbirk> Why is it the Rhythmbox Music Player won't play MP3 files?
[08:40] <Awesome-o2000> you gotta be kidding me
[08:40] <Awesome-o2000> the damn dhcp server STILL puts that in
[08:40] <nismos> M$ DOES recover better after power failure
[08:40] <Flannel> BenB__: No current OS?
[08:40] <BenB__> Windows XP
[08:40] <remu> okay
[08:40] <Killeroid> buddhalover: ask what you want. the best guy to help you will do so
[08:40] <remu> done that bishp
[08:40] <thebishop> remu, not vim
[08:40] <BenB__> got it with the HD
[08:40] <BenB__> lol
[08:40] <thebishop> remu, type ZZ in vim to get out
[08:40] <Madpilot> nismos, like DBO said, can you start Ubuntu in recovery console & run fsck?
[08:40] <Jbirk> 23:40:32) nismos: M$ DOES recover better after power failure?
[08:41] <Jbirk> Linux recovers fine
[08:41] <strotfest> Jbirk, restricted codec
[08:41] <thebishop> remu, sudo gedit aliases
[08:41] <Flannel> BenB__: did you see this page from that page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[08:41] <nismos> ah yeah right
[08:41] <Flannel> gksudo gedit
[08:41] <nismos> thank u c ya in a minute
[08:41] <BenB__> yes
[08:41] <buddhalover> Killeroid: I seem to have lost the ability to reboot through Terminal using 'sudo reboot' command.
[08:41] <strotfest> Jbirk, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats i think
[08:41] <Jbirk> How do I fix it, strotfest?
[08:41] <BenB__> I've read bits from it
[08:41] <Jbirk> Oh
[08:41] <strotfest> pretty simple if you follow that
[08:41] <Jbirk> It works in VLC
[08:41] <nismos> Linux melts my heart
[08:41] <snoops> nismos they've had so much failure in the past, you'd expect them to be good at it :)
[08:41] <BenB__> and it doesn't seem to be do-able
[08:41] <strotfest> (nod) you can get it working in rhythmbox if you grab the gstreamer-ugly plugins
[08:41] <buddhalover> sudo: unable to lookup gregor-desktop via gethostbyname()
[08:41] <BenB__> The netboot approach
[08:42] <buddhalover> i get this error.
[08:42] <BenB__> that requires an internet connection
[08:42] <BenB__> The CD approach
[08:42] <BenB__> that requires a CD
[08:42] <Flannel> BenB__: also, this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromHardDriveWithFloppies
[08:42] <BenB__> and that's the end of the file really
[08:42] <BenB__> no floppy drive
[08:42] <thebishop> remu, you there?
[08:42] <nismos> u won't believe it but i get arousal when I'm working under Linux
[08:42] <nismos> c ya guys
[08:42] <Carmen-> Hey i mounted my Ubuntu installation and i wanna BackUP it thru samba
[08:42] <snoops> must be uncomfortable nismos
[08:43] <BenB__> I need to run it solely from HD
[08:43] <Flannel> BenB__: no, that floppy thing is just to get a basic linux system running, once you do that, you can mount your ISO as a CDrom, and work from there.  read the pages, not just the headings
[08:43] <fyrestrtr> BenB__: you have any network connection?
[08:43] <Warbo> !info gnome
[08:43] <ubotu> gnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.12.2.3 (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 44 kB
[08:43] <BenB__> nope
[08:43] <HighPitchEric> <---- Awesome-o2000
[08:43] <thebishop> Carmen: you'll probably want to mount a samba share, and create an image of your Ubuntu partition with dd
[08:43] <BenB__> well yes I do but when you boot that PC there's no connection
[08:43] <BenB__> you need a driver for it
[08:43] <BenB__> it's a WLan adapter
[08:43] <fyrestrtr> BenB__: just a computer with a hard disk, no floppy, no cdrom?
[08:43] <Flannel> BenB__: and, that first page (the windows one) shows you how to set up that basic linux system, which you can then use in conjunction with the second page
[08:44] <BenB__> yes exactly fyrestrtr
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> BenB__: does it have usb?
[08:44] <BenB__> with GRUB?
[08:44] <BenB__> yes it has
[08:44] <thebishop> would anyone here like NetworkManager to have an Internet Connection Sharing dialog?
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> BenB__: it only has the wireless network card, no wired card?
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> thebishop: install firestarter
[08:44] <Jbirk> how do I install totem?
[08:44] <thebishop> fyrestrtr, i did, it didn't work too well for me
[08:44] <BenB__> I can wire it but I got no cables, heh
[08:45] <Jhair> Jbirk: sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[08:45] <HighPitchEric> request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers, domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name, netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope <---- which one of htese options gives me that stupid search line???
[08:45] <BenB__> I'm kinda just stuck with HDs
[08:45] <remu> yea, im in gedit aliases
[08:45] <thebishop> remu, ok
[08:45] <BenB__> and Flannel yeah you mean I should use GRUB?
[08:45] <BenB__> to load the kernel
[08:45] <fyrestrtr> HighPitchEric: domain-name
[08:45] <thebishop> remu, run a quick search for bcm
[08:45] <thebishop> "bcm
[08:45] <HighPitchEric> nice
[08:45] <thebishop> "bcm"
[08:46] <remu> it says "phrase not found"
[08:46] <thebishop> ok
[08:46] <fyrestrtr> BenB__: take the hard disk out, put it in another machine. Boot that machine with the alternate install cd, install just the 'server' packages, put the hard disk back in the machine, and go from there.
[08:47] <BenB__> can't I just use Dapper or something like that?
[08:48] <HighPitchEric> fyrestrtr, I think that did it - thank you for your help and patience
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> dapper is just a name for the current version of ubuntu.
[08:48] <Madpilot> BenB__, yes, but get the Dapper alternate install CD... not the 'desktop' ISO
[08:48] <BenB__> oh ok
[08:49] <BenB__> well I tried using GRUB to run the kernel and initrd from the ISO and it didn't go well :p
[08:49] <Volvo> ok i just made a new folder, installed samba for ubuntu, had set its share properties like share name and use SMB
[08:49] <remu> thebishop: what would you like me to try doing next?
[08:49] <Volvo> but i cannot access it from my windows box
[08:49] <B4zzA> Volvo,
[08:49] <DanaG> After dd'ing my Dapper to my external drive.
[08:49] <B4zzA> have you set the samba user password
[08:49] <BenB__> maybe I'll just steal a CD-drive
[08:49] <DanaG> Aargh, USB 2.0 is slow as hell.
[08:49] <DanaG> Oh, and usb-storage was taking around 25% CPU (one core -- was using SuSE rescue system, non-smp kernel)
[08:49] <BenB__> :p
[08:50] <BenB__> from my brother
[08:50] <fyrestrtr> BenB__: go buy a cdrom they are only $10
[08:50] <B4zzA> smbpasswd <user> <new password>
[08:50] <thebishop> remu, in aliases, add a line "alias eth1 bcm43xx"
[08:50] <Volvo> ok
[08:50] <Volvo> thanks
[08:50] <Madpilot> BenB__, a basic CD reader is dirt cheap
[08:50] <remu> does it matter where?
[08:50] <BenB__> I know but it's saturday now and no shops are open
[08:51] <BenB__> I've tried to install Ubuntu since yesterday
[08:51] <thebishop> remu, not really, this is a livecd afterall
[08:51] <remu> oh okay
[08:51] <BenB__> I had this CDDrive but when I tried to use the debian installer it gave me some weird errors and it was very very slow
[08:51] <remu> but if i did install it, would it matter, cause im writing all of these steps down
[08:52] <thebishop> i normally add to beginning or end, but it doesn't really matter
[08:52] <remu> okay, i added it, just save and exit now then?
[08:53] <thebishop> remu, yep
[08:53] <DanaG> Oh, with older drives, it's a good idea to write the disk at a low speed.
[08:53] <thebishop> remu, try iwconfig
[08:53] <thebishop> probably won't show anything
[08:53] <DanaG> Avoid CDRWs -- for me they're slow and they don't erase well.
[08:53] <Flannel> It's always a good idea to write at slow speeds.  Old or new drives.  Newer drives especially
[08:53] <remu> iwconfig in the terminal
[08:53] <thebishop> yeah
[08:53] <DanaG> new writer, old reader.
[08:54] <DanaG> I wish I could boot from Firewire -- my external DVDRW is much faster at READING than my internal CDRW (notebook.)
[08:54] <Volvo> B4zza i tried to issue the command but it says you are not root, i tried su smbpasswd user passwd it said authentication failure
[08:54] <remu> says "no wireless extensions" for "lo" "eth0" and "sit0"
[08:54] <thebishop> remu, as expected
[08:54] <thebishop> now
[08:54] <DanaG> s/CDRW/CDRW+DVDROM/
[08:55] <thebishop> sudo rmmod bcm43xx
[08:55] <thebishop> then
[08:55] <thebishop> sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[08:55] <Volvo> i m the only user of this box, doens't that means i should have the su rights ?
[08:55] <PyroManiak> Is there a known problem with the VNC server built into ubunut?
[08:55] <Flannel> Volvo: except we use sudo, yeah.
[08:55] <Madpilot> Volvo, Ubuntu is set up to use sudo
[08:55] <PyroManiak> ubuntu*
[08:55] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Volvo about sudo
[08:55] <Volvo> thanks
[08:55] <DanaG> I wish Ubuntu would somehow make su call sudo -i
[08:56] <thebishop> Volvo, if you need root acces, you can do sudo -s
[08:56] <Volvo> ok thanks
[08:56] <Jbirk> How do I install Skype?
[08:56] <DanaG> What does -s do?
[08:56] <remu> blank line after modprobe
[08:56] <Flannel> !tell Jbirk about skype
[08:56] <thebishop> Volvo, or sudo passwd and make a root password (not recommended)
[08:56] <buddhalover> sudo no longer works for me
[08:56] <DanaG> !sudoers
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <buddhalover> can someone help me with this.
[08:56] <Madpilot> buddhalover, how did you break it?
[08:56] <Jbirk> why is that not recomended, thebishop?
[08:56] <thebishop> DanaG, sudo -s keeps you as root after the first command
[08:56] <Jbirk> What is wrong with having a root password?
[08:56] <markedwards> can someone help me figure out why, even though hostname returns mini.antsclimbtree.com mail sent from the command line with mailx is from flpi102.sbcis.sbc.com?
[08:57] <DanaG> It's a security risk -- it's a well-known username.
[08:57] <thebishop> Jbirk, supposedly more secure
[08:57] <Madpilot> Jbirk, there's no need for one
[08:57] <Flannel> !tell Jbirk about sudo
[08:57] <Flannel> Jbirk: that page explains it
[08:57] <B4zzA> Volvo, you need to use sudo
[08:57] <Jbirk> I know about sudo
[08:57] <B4zzA> sudo <command>
[08:57] <Jbirk> sudo command
[08:57] <DanaG> How can I make Thunderbird receive "system mail"?
[08:57] <Jbirk> asks for a password
[08:57] <Flannel> Jbirk: right, but that page Explains reasons
[08:57] <Jbirk> then executes with root uid 0 privledges
[08:57] <Jbirk> But without setting root password, anyone can sudo!
[08:57] <Jbirk> i.e.
[08:57] <Flannel> Jbirk: no...
[08:57] <remu> thebishop: there is a blank line after "modprobe", and no changes in networking
[08:57] <Jbirk> sudo command asks for password
[08:58] <thebishop> remu, damn.
[08:58] <thebishop> remu, try iwconfig again for th hell of it
[08:58] <Jbirk> without setting root passwd, sudo doesn't ask for password
[08:58] <Flannel> Jbirk: it asks for the user password.  If they're setup as a sudoer, then they can sudo, otherwise, they cant
[08:58] <Flannel> Jbirk: what?  No.
[08:58] <Madpilot> Jbirk, no, only the first user has sudo privs by default
[08:58] <remu> same as before man
[08:58] <B4zzA> Jbirk, you enter your own passbe
[08:58] <B4zzA> *password
[08:58] <thebishop> remu, figures...
[08:58] <Jbirk> Why does only the first user have sudo?
[08:58] <Jbirk> Is the first user a member of a group?
[08:58] <Jbirk> i.e. wheel?
[08:58] <buddhalover> when i attempt to sudo reboot this error comes up. Synaptic no longer runs as well.
[08:58] <buddhalover> sudo: unable to lookup gregor-desktop via gethostbyname()
[08:58] <buddhalover> i was told in another channel to do this
[08:58] <buddhalover> echo "127.0.0.1 <gregor-desktop>" >> /etc/hosts
[08:58] <buddhalover> but it returns permission denied
[08:58] <Madpilot> Jbirk, because someone has to?
[08:59] <Madpilot> buddhalover, do NOT paste like that, thanks...
[08:59] <thebishop> remu, dmesg | grep bcm
[08:59] <Flannel> buddhalover: you need to tweak your hosts file, to include your local hostname
[08:59] <Madpilot> buddhalover, try sticking sudo in front of that echo command
[08:59] <Flannel> buddhalover: boot into recovery console (at the grub menu) and you should be able to fix it
[08:59] <buddhalover> Madpilot: tried that.
[09:00] <DanaG> Is it okay to paste things that are just 4 lines?
[09:00] <remu> bcm43xx               127244  0
[09:00] <remu> ieee80211softmac       32640  1 bcm43xx
[09:00] <remu> ieee80211              39240  2 bcm43xx,ieee80211softmac
[09:00] <buddhalover> Flannel: is recovery console the same as failsafe terminal?
[09:00] <Madpilot> DanaG, pastebin is best
[09:00] <Madpilot> !paste
[09:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:00] <remu> no, sorry, wrong thing
[09:00] <remu> [  554.955693]  bcm43xx driver
[09:00] <remu> [ 1193.682017]  bcm43xx driver
[09:00] <Flannel> buddhalover: right, failsafe terminal.  Whatever, it'll be a root shell, you can fix your hosts file
[09:00] <DanaG> Or, how about merging lines with || these || thingies || as || separators
[09:00] <remu> thats what comes up after dmesg
[09:00] <thebishop> remu, hmm
[09:00] <buddhalover> Flannel : I tried that also.. from failsafe terminal but I get the same error messages.
[09:01] <thebishop> remu, that's odd that it finds your card, but doesn't make a dev item for it
[09:01] <DanaG> How do you hold a scroll in irssi?
[09:01] <buddhalover> Madpilot: Thank you for your suggestion. :)
[09:01] <Flannel> buddhalover: you don't need to sudo from failsafe
[09:01] <DanaG> oh, pgup instead of shift-pgup.
[09:02] <buddhalover> tried echo from failsafe: still permission denied
[09:02] <Warbo> !info brightside
[09:02] <ubotu> brightside: Add reactivity to the corners and edges of your GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 96 kB, installed size 924 kB
[09:02] <Flannel> buddhalover: is this the failsafe from GDM? or from grub?
[09:02] <PyroManiak> VNC server hard locks my system... any idea's?
[09:02] <buddhalover> GDM
[09:03] <Flannel> buddhalover: right.  You need to reboot, and select the rescue mode from the grub menu
[09:03] <DanaG> Get your grubby hands off my GRUB!
[09:03] <DanaG> Right?
[09:03] <PyroManiak> buddhalover: was that to me?
[09:03] <buddhalover> okay thank you Flannel. :)
[09:03] <buddhalover> Pyro: no sorry...
[09:03] <thebishop> remu, ok
[09:03] <DanaG> Or better:  "Hey, Vista!  Keep your BCD off my GRUB!
[09:03] <remu> thebishop: yes?
[09:03] <thebishop> remu, you're going to have to use ndiswrapper, but there's not much sense configuring that in livecd
[09:04] <DanaG> BCD is Vista boot loader and its configuration.
[09:04] <Volvo> okkkkkkkk is there a front end GUI for samba to configure ?
[09:04] <fyrestrtr> swat
[09:04] <BenB__> Flannel: I just found a Celeron 1GHz 256MB RAM with a CD drive there. Think the CD installation would work if I put my HD there?
[09:04] <Volvo> apt get swat right ?
[09:04] <BenB__> apt-get *
[09:04] <Volvo> thanks
[09:04] <remu> it wont work period, or its not worth doing itbecause when i install ubuntu im just gonna have to do it again
[09:04] <Ropechoborra> Hi.. im trying to setup a LAN with a Windows XP. I can see shared files from ubuntu, but i cant from windows, i supouse its some Samba config error.. (guess with the users) can anybody help me?
[09:04] <Flannel> BenB__: uh, sure.
[09:05] <thebishop> remu, install the system, follow this tutorial:http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[09:05] <remu> cause if its the latter, i dont mind, ill write the stuff down, and so on
[09:05] <BenB__> alright, I'll have a go
[09:05] <remu> thanks thebishop
[09:05] <thebishop> remu, latter, and because the modules require a restart
[09:05] <remu> oh ok
[09:05] <thebishop> remu, so its really no good for livecd
[09:06] <jdmpike> anyone in here running Tomcat on ubuntu?
[09:07] <markedwards> solved it
[09:07] <DanaG> !samba
[09:07] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> jdmpike: sure.
[09:07] <DanaG> for Ropechoborra.
[09:07] <Ropechoborra> Ty
[09:07] <jdmpike> fyrestrtr, I am trying to figure out how to make tomcat5 use sun-java5 instead of kaffe
[09:07] <DanaG> That's a handy thing in the Ubuntu channel -- the !thingy commands.
[09:07] <DanaG> like !thingy
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> jdmpike: edit the startup script and override the JAVA_HOME variable.
[09:08] <DanaG> !nevermind.
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nevermind. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> jdmpike: I mean, the config file, not the startup script.
[09:08] <jdmpike> fyrestrtr, which config file?
[09:08] <DanaG> !tux
[09:08] <ubotu> tux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/
[09:09] <thebishop> does the "Share Folder" context menu work for anyone here?
[09:09] <thebishop> it never works for me
[09:09] <thebishop> when i try to access the folder, it asks for User/Pass and nothing works
[09:09] <markedwards> can anyone explain the ",,," in most of my long usernames in /etc/passwd?
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> jdmpike: /etc/default/tomcat5
[09:10] <Volvo> how to run swat, i cann't find it in installed applications or any other menu, do i need to type swat in the terminal
[09:11] <Volvo> although package manager says its installed by default with the samba
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> markedwards: man passwd :)
[09:11] <thebishop> for any musicians here, "Hydrogen" is an incredible app
[09:11] <thebishop> just thought i'd put that out there
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> Volvo: read up on it, its not a program, but a server you browse to.
[09:11] <strotfest> thebishop, i thought it was a neat toy :D
[09:12] <jdmpike> fyrestrtr, thanks!
[09:12] <thebishop> strotfest, i had my laptop hooked up to my amp today, and was playing along to the beats
[09:12] <thebishop> good times
[09:12] <Volvo> O.O
[09:12] <thebishop> some of the free drumkits are quite good
[09:13] <strotfest> thebishop, keen :D  it's pretty much the only audio-production app i've had any success with thus far, but i'm not very seasoned with linux as yet
[09:13] <qsrv> hi
[09:13] <strotfest> thebishop, i didn't care for the 808 emulation but it was still fairly crisp
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> there is another app that shows a virtual keyboard, but I forgot the name.
[09:14] <strotfest> i've been trying to get propellerheads reason working via WINE to no avail (yet)...i'd rather just run FOSS to make music though, really
[09:15] <thebishop> Arduour is the best FOSS non-linear multitrack app i'm aware of
[09:15] <strotfest> (nod) i've heard good things.  but good lord is it ugly. :D
[09:15] <thebishop> yeah, its hideous
[09:15] <Scottrix> hey peoples
[09:15] <markedwards> fyrestrtr: thanks.  actually its man 5 passwd ;)  I get what the commas are from, but wtf? that makes it so mail from the command line comes from "Mark Edwards,,,"
[09:15] <strotfest> i can't bear the way it looks, though that's not very important i suppose
[09:15] <thebishop> there was a project called "Wired" that looked very nice, but i don't know if it ever got off the ground
[09:16] <strotfest> i was looking at wired the other day.  haven't tried setting it up though.  seemed like it had potential
[09:16] <thebishop> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[09:16] <thebishop> i wish Hydrogen had a full-screen mode
[09:16] <Scottrix> i've got a question for anyone who can help me out - i've tried installing xcompmgr, but it can't find the package
[09:16] <jdmpike> where does sun-java5 install java?
[09:17] <jatt> C-x C-z makes xterm hang. is this a bug?
[09:17] <strotfest> i found a great thread on the forums not long ago where some people were talking about making an app to combine hydrogen, amsynth, et cetera to create a virtual studio rack a la reason
[09:17] <thebishop> Scottrix, xcompmgr is antiquated
[09:17] <ursatz> anyone can help with a PPC installation issue?
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> jdmpike: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:17] <NickGarvey> the desktop cd is the live cd?
[09:17] <thebishop> Scottrix, look up Compiz
[09:17] <Flannel> NickGarvey: yes
[09:17] <NickGarvey> Flannel: what is the difference between the alternate and server cd?
[09:17] <Scottrix> thebishop: hmmm, ok, just as good?
[09:17] <thebishop> Scottrix, lightyears better
[09:18] <Scottrix> thebishop: ah, very good
[09:18] <jdmpike> fyrestrtr, again - thanks!
[09:18] <thebishop> xcomp is just dropshadows and translucency
[09:18] <Flannel> NickGarvey: alternate is the old text-mode installer, server is a specialized "server only" one, that includes a LAMP pre-install, and a few specialized kernels
[09:18] <thebishop> compiz is the next-level
[09:18] <Scottrix> ooh, i like next level
[09:18] <NickGarvey> Flannel: oh thats very sweet, thank you
[09:18] <thebishop> window animations, 3d effects, fades, expose, etc
[09:19] <strotfest> *drool*
[09:19] <thebishop> its more advanced than OSX in many ways
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> I wouldn't go that far.
[09:19] <thebishop> and its running very smoothly on my Intel 915
[09:19] <thebishop> fyrestrtr, its not a sleek, but from a technical standpoint, its there
[09:19] <redblades> Hi, I was wondering, is it possible to create an install CD from my installed System? as in, I could choose whcih packages would be installed next time?
[09:20] <thebishop> Scottrix, wanna see some screens?
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> thebishop: its a great show stopper, but as far as productivity goes, I don't think it increases it any.
[09:21] <redblades> I have an install CD, but it is now out of date, so it's not very useful if I have to keep doing updates all the time.
[09:21] <thebishop> fyrestrtr, lol big deal, its fun
[09:21] <Scottrix> thebishop: sounds good :)
[09:21] <lange> fyrestrtr there are some features that are immediately useful, and some that developed will help also
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> thebishop: you'd have 10 fold better productivty if you go with dual monitors, for example.
[09:21] <jdmpike> sometimes, it is a total show stopper, like when you full screen something like eclipse and it doesn't work any more
[09:22] <NickGarvey> fyrestrtr: +1
[09:22] <thebishop> http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=2797044
[09:22] <lange> I haven't really found any pratical use for wobbly though -_-
[09:22] <thebishop> http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=2797052
[09:22] <NickGarvey> I don't think XGL is about practical heh
[09:22] <thebishop> lange i have OSX on this laptop, and i can't live without wobbly windows!
[09:22] <thebishop> :D
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> thebishop: http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotgw6.png
[09:23] <lange> I just think in the future you will see a lot of very useful interface designs come from this
[09:24] <lange> and the expose like function is great for multiple desktops
[09:24] <dan_kent> anyone know where I can get libasound2 1.0.11 for ubuntu?
[09:24] <thebishop> fyrestrtr, nice ;)
[09:24] <thebishop> i love that wallpaper
[09:25] <thebishop> that taskbar would be cluttered on my laptop though
[09:25] <Phirax_On_Laptop> isn't that vista?
[09:25] <crimsun> dan_kent: only in Edgy.
[09:25] <lange> heh
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> Phirax_On_Laptop: no, its ubuntu
[09:26] <Scottrix> "couldn't find package compiz"
[09:26] <Scottrix> :(
[09:26] <thebishop> Scottrix, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> thebishop: this is my laptop > http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=laptopog3.png
[09:27] <thebishop> welcome to the future
[09:27] <farous> crimsun: can someone build-packages from edgy for dapper using the source repos. same as easy-backports in debian?
[09:27] <Phirax_On_Laptop> fyrestrtr: serious looks so much like vista, a skin or something hey?
[09:27] <lange> Scottrix, add to sources.list -> deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main
[09:27] <thebishop> i like that icon set, but i can't get used to transparent taskbars
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> Phirax_On_Laptop: its a compiz window decoration theme
[09:28] <crimsun> farous: in some cases, yes.
[09:28] <Scottrix> how do i add to a sources list?
[09:28] <farous> crimsun: thanx
[09:28] <Flannel> Scottrix: edit it with an editor
[09:28] <crimsun> farous: it's not recommended due to possible API/ABI breakage.
[09:28] <Scottrix> where's the file?
[09:28] <lange> flannel, that was pretty redundant!
[09:28] <Phirax_On_Laptop> fyrestrtr: ah ok
[09:29] <Phirax_On_Laptop> fyrestrtr: in gnome or kde?
[09:29] <lange> /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:29] <Flannel> Scottrix: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list or gksudo gedit, or kdesu kate
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> Phirax_On_Laptop: gnome
[09:29] <Scottrix> cool, thanks
[09:29] <farous> API/ABI ?
[09:29] <Flannel> lange: it wasnt!  one was a verb, the other a noun.  not my fault the use the same root word ;)
[09:29] <thebishop> does anyone have an opinion of this new Glucose project
[09:29] <Phirax_On_Laptop> fyrestrtr: ahh nice,
[09:29] <thebishop> Scottrix, just follow the link i sent, it has tutorials for all major hardware
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> Phirax_On_Laptop: the resolution is not clear because imageshack resizes it.
[09:30] <Elephant> Hmm...I have a couple of extra computers at home, and I'd like to do something interesting with them...does anyone have ideas for fun Linux box projects?
[09:30] <thebishop> Elephant, set up a cluster and watch the load balancing
[09:30] <RancidLM> can some one help me for some reason synaptic returns this error "synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" ?
[09:30] <Phirax_On_Laptop> fyrestrtr: yeah the image won't go larger than my window width
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> Elephant: compile farm, clustered rendering, game servers, routers, etc.
[09:30] <lange> elephant: compute the digits of pi?
[09:30] <Elephant> So far, I've only come up with three ideas - file/print server, media file server, and media client
[09:30] <WLayout> how can i turn off stricthostchecking for ssh?
[09:31] <Scottrix> thebishop: it still can't find compiz
[09:31] <thebishop> dude... its not in the standard repos
[09:31] <Flannel> #ubuntu-xgl for the XGL related questions, please.
[09:31] <NickGarvey> Elephant: if you want to use it as a media client try geexbox or something
[09:31] <thebishop> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351
[09:31] <lange> Scottrix: did you do apt-get update after you added the repo to your sources list?
[09:31] <thebishop> click the link that best matches your hardware
[09:31] <Elephant> well, the client part is a bit longer term
[09:32] <Elephant> shorter term is getting a working file server
[09:32] <thebishop> Elephant, if you have a CPU that supports SSE2, you could try installing OSX on it (illegal)
[09:32] <Scottrix> lange: nope should do that huh
[09:32] <Elephant> then a second file server with a LOT of HD space
[09:32] <Phirax_On_Laptop> fyrestrtr hey does the window blurr/tranparency work ok?
[09:32] <NickGarvey> Elephant: not that hard, proftpd should do it
[09:32] <lange> yessir
[09:32] <DanaG> How do you save a log in irssi?
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> sure
[09:32] <DanaG> I wanna save the addresses of pics people say.
[09:32] <d104> Hi Guys, I'm having problems connecting Evolution to my exchange account. Does anyone know how I can diagnose whats going wrong?
[09:33] <NickGarvey> d104: perhaps you need ssl?
[09:33] <Scottrix> cool, now i'm getting somewhere
[09:33] <Jbirk> Can XGL run on an Nvidia 5200 FX Go?
[09:33] <thebishop> Jbirk, probably
[09:33] <Jbirk> would it run well??
[09:33] <Phirax_On_Laptop> thebishop: yeah tried that din't work to well,
[09:34] <thebishop> Phirax_On_Laptop, OSX?
[09:34] <Phirax_On_Laptop> yeah
[09:34] <thebishop> works good on my laptop
[09:34] <Phirax_On_Laptop> tiger 10.4.6
[09:34] <thebishop> same here
[09:34] <thebishop> what GPU you got?
[09:34] <Phirax_On_Laptop> ahh well there is a bug with the USB mkext thing,
[09:34] <Elephant> NickGarvey, thanks - I'll do some googling.  I'll need something that seamlessly integrates with WinXP over a wireless network, though
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> d104: check the logs on the exchange server.
[09:34] <Jbirk> 5200 FX Go
[09:34] <Phirax_On_Laptop> x800xt
[09:34] <farous> ok got what is ment by api/abi compat :)
[09:34] <Volvo> what is PDC /
[09:34] <Elephant> which would call for SAMBA, unless I miss my guess
[09:34] <NickGarvey> Elephant: if I recall geexbox has samba built in, and will play your media files if shared on windows
[09:34] <DanaG> hmm, uPnP anyone?
[09:34] <DanaG> !upnp
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upnp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <NickGarvey> Elephant: oh but the wireless is the fun part heh
[09:35] <Volvo> !PDC
[09:35] <Phirax_On_Laptop> i apparently need the kext file from 10.4.3 to get my USB hub working,
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about PDC - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <thebishop> Jbirk, just give it a shot, i think you'll be plesantly surprised... especially considering Vista's requirements
[09:35] <Elephant> well
[09:35] <Jbirk> I know I have the RAM
[09:35] <Jbirk> I have 2 GB
[09:35] <Jbirk> how do I install XGL?
[09:35] <Elephant> the wireless applies for the reg. file server project
[09:35] <Jbirk> any easy tutorial?
[09:35] <thebishop> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351
[09:35] <d104> NickGarvey: I've tried both the http and https url for the OWA without any success. Both tell me I have an incorrect username and password
[09:35] <Jbirk> Should I backup my ssytem first?
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> Jbirk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xgl
[09:35] <DanaG> What themes and wallpapers were people showing off?
[09:35] <Elephant> I'm hatching a plot to wire the house for streaming audio/video using media server(s)
[09:36] <lange> Elephant: you should look into mythTV
[09:36] <NickGarvey> Elephant: use icecast for that (is my suggestion)
[09:36] <d104> fyrestrtr: I'm afraid it's a hosted exchange server with 1and1 so I have no access to the exchange logs
[09:36] <thebishop> Elephant, i already got Xboxmediacenter doing that
[09:36] <Elephant> rip all CDs and DVDs in the house to the massive media server (note to self:  Buy more HDDs), then stream the proper files to a standard client in just about any room
[09:36] <NickGarvey> d104: I'm not familiar with evolution :/
[09:36] <thebishop> XBMC is awesome, but Myth has DVR which is nice
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> d104: not sure you can use the OWA information.
[09:37] <Elephant> DVR box would be nice, too
[09:37] <Phirax_On_Laptop> yeah mythtv is pretty nice, using that on my PVR box
[09:37] <thebishop> i have PVR in my cable box though that supports HD
[09:37] <thebishop> HD tv tuners are still pretty expensive
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> Phirax_On_Laptop: http://www.meidomus.com/images/Screenshot.png <-- better version
[09:37] <TheMoebius-Windo> is there some kind of multi-part downloading program for linux so I can download the same file from multiple mirrors at the same time to get it faster? on windows I use getright.
[09:37] <Phirax_On_Laptop> mediaportal ain't to bad either
[09:37] <WLayout> how can i turn off stricthostchecking for ssh?
[09:37] <thebishop> TheMoebius-Windo, uh ... bittorrent??
[09:37] <RancidLM> is thier a way i can post a bug.. i just found out that the libvte upgrade will break synaptec untill you do a ln -s /usr/lib/libvte.so.9 /usr/lib/libvte.so.4
[09:38] <Flannel> TheMoebius-Windo: check out jigdo, or bittorrent
[09:38] <RancidLM> *break synaptic
[09:38] <Phirax_On_Laptop> fyrestrtr: ah yeah much clearer now, very spiffy
[09:38] <thebishop> Flannel, do people actually use jigdo?
[09:38] <Flannel> thebishop: you can get ubuntu with it ;)
[09:38] <thebishop> i never did... :(
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> RancidLM: I believe its a known issue. There is a post on the forums about it, and iirc, it only works if your have the xgl repos enabled.
[09:38] <Ropechoborra> How can i connect to internet from Windows XP trough a Lan with ubuntu ?
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> Ropechoborra: enable ICS on Windows XP, then connect the two computers together using a hub.
[09:39] <thebishop> Ropechoborra, google "internet connection sharing ubuntu"
[09:39] <RancidLM> fyrestrtr: ah.. i found the little ln trick worked great :D
[09:39] <TheMoebius-Windo> thebishop: ya, but bittorrent is different. for example, I'm trying to get the ubuntu live CD right now and its going at about 100K/s but my connections max download speed is more like 500K/s. If I could download different parts from different mirrors at the same time I could utilize all that bandwidth, which is what getright does on windows.
[09:39] <Phirax_On_Laptop> fyrestrtr: i see your an opera user, do you know if its possible to get opera running on AMD64? i can only find i386 versions
[09:39] <DanaG> Oh, I'd like to see those XGL pics links again.
[09:39] <Elephant> whee, I love SSH
[09:39] <TheMoebius-Windo> i never heard of jigdo, I'll take a look
[09:39] <DanaG> I have XGL, but I wanna see how OTHER people have it set up.
[09:40] <lange> DanaG: have you seen some of the videos on google video
[09:40] <thebishop> DanaG, http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=2797052
[09:40] <thebishop> http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=2797044
[09:40] <thebishop> http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=2796633
[09:40] <DanaG> Yeah, I have XGL working.  I jsut wanted to see the wallpapers and skins (liked earlier, but I missed them in IRSSI.
[09:40] <Elephant> I'm on my regular winXP desktop (games), working on a new Ubuntu install on a second computer via Putty and the OpenSSH server I set up immediately after installation
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> Phirax_On_Laptop: I don't know about that, sorry.
[09:41] <Elephant> SSH server should be standard on all new Linux installations
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> DanaG: http://www.meidomus.com/images/Screenshot.png
[09:41] <thebishop> Elephant, policy is no open ports by default
[09:41] <thebishop> smart move imo
[09:41] <Phirax_On_Laptop> no worries, might have to drop back doen to i368
[09:41] <Phirax_On_Laptop> *down
[09:41] <Elephant> unless you select the LAMP option from the Ubuntu server CD
[09:42] <Elephant> good point on the defaults, though, thadood
[09:42] <DanaG> How do I SSH into a server that's offering X forwarding?
[09:42] <Elephant> thebishop*
[09:42] <Jbirk> How do I install lamp on Ubuntu without the server CD?
[09:42] <DanaG> How does dual-monitor XGL work?
[09:42] <DanaG> Separate cubes, or one cube?
[09:42] <Elephant> spend a few hours installing and configuring Apache, MySQL, and PHP/Perl/Python
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> DanaG: just like you would, normally. If you want to forward X, you need an X client on your machine, then forward the ports.
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> DanaG: one cube.
[09:42] <Nick{Sleeping}> DanaG: ssh -X
[09:42] <thebishop> Jbirk, apt-get mysql-common apache2 php
[09:43] <thoreauputic> DanaG: ssh -X user@serverIP
[09:43] <Volvo> elephant >> thats make you my new best friend
[09:43] <Elephant> or use SSH w/o X-forwarding and use the command-line
[09:43] <DanaG> Is there a way to use a nested X?
[09:43] <thoreauputic> DanaG: capital X (important)
[09:43] <Volvo> elephant should i add u to my notify list, 'cause i m persuing the same :) LAMP
[09:43] <DanaG> Try ssh'ing into a server then running startkde.
[09:43] <Elephant> heh
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> !lamp
[09:43] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:43] <DanaG> From within gnome-terminal.
[09:43] <Elephant> I used the Ubuntu server CD to do a LAMP install on an old server at work
[09:43] <DanaG> In Ubuntu.
[09:43] <DanaG> It's odd!
[09:44] <Elephant> we set up Subversion and Trac, linked them both to Apache, and added a couple of extra plugins to make life easier
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> !away > Ropechoborra
[09:44] <Volvo> well i have a second hand compaq evo d500 with 512mb ram and 80 gig hdd for the purpose i hope it will be enough
[09:44] <thoreauputic> DanaG: Try freenx ( uses ssh, works well )
[09:44] <virogenesis> does anyone know where i could get the xubuntu wallpaper from?
[09:44] <Elephant> looks like I'll have to do some custom programming to tie them toegether a bit better, though
[09:45] <thebishop> virogenesis, check out art.ubuntu.org
[09:45] <Volvo> elephant >> u using apache-2 or 1 ?
[09:45] <ursatz> anyone can help with a PPC installation issue?
[09:45] <thoreauputic> ursatz: just ask - if someone knows they will help
[09:45] <Elephant> we need both the svn and Trac environments to get created automatically with one command, for ease-of-use
[09:45] <test0012> Hello, everyone. I'm working on a local framebuffered console on ubuntu, and when I've sshed to a remote machine which running Mac OS X 10.4.7, I found the palette was different from the ubuntu local palette. The blue color was very dark, so how can I keep my palette?
[09:45] <Elephant> Volvo, apache 2
[09:45] <Volvo> does ubuntu supports DNN ( Dot Net Nuke )  ?
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> Volvo: does DNN support Mono?
[09:46] <virogenesis> :(
[09:46] <Volvo> lol
[09:46] <Volvo> apt-get mono right ?
[09:46] <ursatz> I got a problem with X not working on a mac G3 Beige "Oldworld"... anyone can help?
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> Volvo: you need to find out if DNN supports mono -- if it doesn't installing it won't do you any good.
[09:47] <thebishop> ursatz, i'm not sure if pre-imac G3 is supported
[09:47] <Volvo> oh
[09:47] <ursatz> it is
[09:47] <Volvo> ok
[09:47] <thebishop> ok
[09:47] <test0012> And I read something at /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh, which has a function called reset_vga_palette, it just print ESC] R to the console. But it doesn't reset the remote palette.
[09:47] <test0012> Anyone here familiar with these stuffs?
[09:48] <thebishop> so... how long before Ubuntu is as common as Firefox?
[09:48] <fyrestrtr> thebishop: we have to get the crop circle first
[09:48] <Elephant> Hard to say...
[09:48] <thebishop> :)
[09:48] <Volvo> it is alot now, <<thebishop>>
[09:48] <Elephant> LiveCDs is a good way to get some exposure, though
[09:48] <Volvo> i have distributed many cds in my city, where this technoolgy is new for most of them
[09:49] <lange> Volvo: what city?
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> me standing outside naked waving a large banner with UBUNTU written on it, is another way to get some exposure.
[09:49] <Volvo> :)
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> and depending on which angle you look at, you get more or less exposure.
[09:49] <Volvo> Dera Ismail Khan ? ever heard about it ?
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> Volvo: Jhelum, ever heard about it?
[09:49] <Volvo> lol
[09:49] <Volvo> coool
[09:49] <lange> noooo
[09:49] <thebishop> i think IT-types who are sick of Windows Product Activation, and the like would gladly switch over
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> I have switched over three people
[09:50] <anze> hi > *
[09:50] <Volvo> and i have distributed atleast 21 cds
[09:50] <lange> I would think places like libraries and the such would have a good run with ubuntu
[09:50] <thebishop> if World of Warcraft ran smoother on my laptop, i wouldn't have a windows partition
[09:50] <iter> thebishop: wga is not a problem for it types
[09:50] <lange> I don't know why more government run places don't have linux installed on their public computers
[09:50] <iter> they usually pay for their licenses
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> thebishop: what video card is on your laptop?
[09:51] <thebishop> iter, i have a legal license, and i've exceeded my "activation quota"
[09:51] <iter> lange: they get a fat discount from ms
[09:51] <thebishop> reinstalling Windows XP means a 20 minute conversation with someone in india
[09:51] <DanaG> Ubuntu has apt, and it puts stuff in STANDARD places.
[09:51] <lange> iter: that's what I figured, it's such a shame
[09:51] <thebishop> fyrestrtr, Intel 915
[09:51] <DanaG> SuSE does stuff like /opt/kde3, /opt/gnome, and such.
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> thebishop: should work okay (as long as you don't run xgl)
[09:52] <iter> thebishop: I have yet to encounter any wga problems at work
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> DanaG: that's actually pretty common.
[09:52] <thebishop> fyrestrtr, it runs, but its a bit too choppy to enjoy
[09:52] <iter> like the vast majority of ppl
[09:52] <thebishop> fyrestrtr, maybe future Wine updates will help
[09:52] <iter> don't get me wrong, I have a ubuntu machine too
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> thebishop: I always compile wine from source
[09:52] <iter> it's great for some stuff
[09:52] <DanaG> Also, SusE uses a "makes everything TOO easy" YaST -- I love it, but it spoiled me.
[09:52] <thebishop> fyrestrtr, i'm using the WineHQ repo
[09:52] <iter> but for the average user that I administer forget ubuntu
[09:53] <iter> first of all, no group policy
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> actually, there is.
[09:53] <iter> hit me up
[09:53] <iter> I want to see that ish
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> check out the oem customizations. There is also terminal services, remote imaging (ala Norton Ghost), etc. All is there, you just have to dig around a bit to find out.
[09:54] <Scottrix> hey, i've got a fair bit working
[09:54] <iter> what kind of answer is that
[09:54] <iter> I was talking about group policy
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> iter: I'm telling you, group policy and everything else is available in ubuntu.
[09:54] <thebishop> Scottrix, good for you man
[09:55] <lange> doesn't SUSE setup out of the box to connect to windows domains?  I've never tested it but it was an option
[09:55] <Scottrix> compiz is pretty good, though stuff like alt+tab doesn't work anymore
[09:55] <Scottrix> thebishop: any ideas
[09:55] <thebishop> Scottrix, yeah
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> iter: you need to search for it. Ubuntu is a 'end user' distro, so for stuff like this, its a bit more work.
[09:55] <thebishop> there's a red box up in your taskbar
[09:55] <thebishop> click Preferences
[09:55] <anze> i have a silly Q, but i'm serious! Why dows ubuntu run so much faster (has better performance) than usual Fedora, Suse... ? Because there is a *big* different there
[09:55] <DanaG> I'm using Ubuntu right now simply because I see more updates of things in the Ubuntu repos than I see in SuSE 10.1's YaST repos.
[09:56] <Scottrix> thebishop: i dont' see a red box
[09:56] <iter> hmm funny how "ubuntu group policy" doesn't result in many google hits
[09:56] <lange> it could be under system, preferences
[09:56] <iter> not to be a troll
[09:56] <Scottrix> oh ok, no worries
[09:56] <iter> I'll do my own research thank
[09:56] <Scottrix> what am i looking for?
[09:57] <thebishop> click Preferences
[09:57] <lange> iter: you'll probably have better luck with "linux group policy"
[09:57] <thebishop> iter, are you talking about group permissions?
[09:57] <iter> http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:R5LLuaT3pGIJ:www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D218391+ubuntu+group+policy&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=10
[09:57] <iter> yeah, cause that kind of claims the opposite
[09:58] <iter> and no, I'm not talking about file permissions
[09:58] <DanaG> gpedit.msc
[09:58] <DanaG> System restrictions.
[09:58] <DanaG> Like, no downloads in IE, no changing wallpaper, and such.
[09:58] <iter> I'm talking about the stuff that group policy makes really really easy
[09:58] <iter> DanaG: very close but you get the idea
[09:58] <iter> you have a lot of granular control over the user experience
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> iter: http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tools/15478.html and
[09:59] <iter> fyrestrtr: thanks, but that article talks about samba
[10:00] <thebishop> Scottrix, hows it going?
[10:00] <DanaG> SuSE is good for servers and admin stuff -- YaST is great.
[10:01] <DanaG> I still don't know exactly why I ditched SuSE 10.1 for Dapper -- perhaps I was just sick of KDE and blue.
[10:01] <Scottrix> thebishop: was just looking at the keyboard shortcuts, is that what  you wanted me to do?
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> iter: it talks about policy control using samba as pdc.
[10:01] <iter> ah it sure is
[10:01] <iter> I'm reading that custom poledit page atm
[10:01] <DanaG> gotta stop X again.
[10:01] <iter> cool hack
[10:01] <thebishop> in that Preferences app, there is a list of plugins on the left side
[10:01] <PyroManiak> Anyone have a problem with the built in VNC server for Ubuntu locking the system?
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> iter: I am trying to find the one about group policy, give me a second.
[10:02] <thebishop> check all of them except "trailfocus, bs, neg, blur, dbus, and reflection"
[10:02] <Scottrix> thebishop: i still don't know where this preferences app is
[10:03] <Timmy-C> i need somebody to help me out with a GRUB issue
[10:03] <thebishop> where were you looking at keyboard shortcuts?
[10:03] <lange> Scottrix: System->preferences->CGWD Themer
[10:03] <lange> does that exist?
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> iter: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CorporateUbuntu :)
[10:03] <Scottrix> lange: nope
[10:04] <woodwizzle> in gconf can i set shortcuts for the mouse?
[10:04] <Scottrix> thebishop: was looking at keyboard shortcuts under system>preferences
[10:05] <lange> oh I'm sorry, I wasn't even looking in the right place
[10:05] <Timmy-C> i had Ubuntu 5.10 installed on a second partition on my other machine and i reformated all the linux partitions as i needed the space for something else windows related. I formatted it using Partition Magic and upon reboot i am getting GRUB Error 17.
[10:05] <thebishop> Scottrix, link me to the exact tutorial you followed
[10:06] <Scottrix> thebishop: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[10:06] <manmadha> !fm
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <maz> !kernel
[10:06] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:07] <iter> fyrestrtr: dope thanks
[10:07] <Timmy-C> i had Ubuntu 5.10 installed on a second partition on my other machine and i reformated all the linux partitions as i needed the space for something else windows related. I formatted it using Partition Magic and upon reboot i am getting GRUB Error 17.
[10:08] <eitch0000> Timmy-C: I think that changed your partition numbering, so now grub might be searching on the wrong partition for your root
[10:08] <eitch0000> !topic
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <Timmy-C> i know. i just wanna remove Grub all together
[10:08] <iter> Timmy-C: grub was installed on the mbr
[10:09] <iter> boot from windows cd to recovery console
[10:09] <Timmy-C> yeah
[10:09] <eitch0000> Timmy-C: install a windows mbr?
[10:09] <iter> run fdisk /mbr
[10:09] <iter> and fixboot
[10:09] <iter> donw
[10:09] <iter> done *
[10:09] <Timmy-C> thanks
[10:09] <Timmy-C> brb
[10:09] <eitch0000> yeah
[10:09] <thebishop> Scottrix, ok, now do "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:09] <Timmy-C> im just giving it a try now
[10:09] <Goshawk> hi, why the file /etc/lsb-base-logging.sh is part of lsb-base in ubuntu while in debian it's part of the package usplash? ( http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=usplash&version=unstable&arch=amd64 )
[10:09] <thebishop> add these at the bottom: deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ dapper main
[10:09] <thebishop> deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main
[10:10] <thebishop> then run sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:10] <thebishop> actually
[10:10] <thebishop> sorry
[10:11] <thebishop> don't add those repos
[10:11] <thebishop> add these instead:
[10:11] <thebishop> deb http://xgl.compiz.info dapper main
[10:11] <thebishop> either way it will work
[10:11] <thebishop> but this repo upgrades compiz like every day
[10:11] <Scottrix> thebishop: ok
[10:12] <thebishop> after you do dist-upgrade, you should get a red cube in your taskbar that will have compiz controls
[10:14] <Scottrix> thebishop: ok i already had that listing in sources, but i'll do both updates and see what happens
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> !enter
[10:14] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[10:14] <thebishop> :)
[10:15] <thebishop> fyrestrtr, you play WoW in linux?
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> I used to
[10:16] <thebishop> what gpu?
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> ATI x300
[10:16] <ever> m.o.i
[10:16] <thebishop> hmm
[10:16] <thebishop> pretty lousy, like mine
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> I need to get back on it with my nvidia 5600GT
[10:17] <thebishop> 6600 or 5600?
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> ati just makes crap drivers
[10:17] <ever> llllllllllllll
[10:17] <No1Viking> My screensaver is slow even if I got fglrx installed correctly. Any ideas what to do?
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> FX 5500
[10:17] <Scottrix> thebishop: i still don't have a red box in the taskbar
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> Scottrix: you don't get it in the task bar anymore.
[10:18] <thebishop> fyrestrtr, i still get it...
[10:18] <ever> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> thebishop: well you shouldn't if you use cgwd properly
[10:19] <debuntu> ever, are you slightly retarded?
[10:19] <thoreauputic> ever: stop it please
[10:19] <Scottrix> i gather the whole point is so that i can configure compiz
[10:19] <thebishop> maybe becayse i have gset-compiz installed
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> Scottrix: no, so you can configure themes for compiz.
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> thebishop: its probably because you never changed your startup script
[10:19] <thoreauputic> ah Ok too late..
[10:19] <Scottrix> i just need to fix up the keys so that i can alt tab etc
[10:20] <thebishop> there's a compiz plugin for alt-tab
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> Scottrix: from a terminal, type xmodmap -e "/usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us"
[10:20] <thebishop> that's why its not working
[10:20] <debuntu> thoreauputic, you should have gone the insult, like me. Even when they have left you have the satisfaction of having abused them.
[10:20] <debuntu> a lot of 'haves' in that sentance
[10:20] <thebishop> you need to enable it, either in gconf or gset-compiz (which is sort of depreciated now)
[10:20] <thoreauputic> debuntu: ah, but I signed the code of conduct ;)
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> don't use gset-compiz, it doesn't work. In fact, get rid of it, and use gconf-editor
[10:21] <No1Viking> My screensaver is slow even if I got fglrx installed correctly. Any ideas what to do?
[10:21] <debuntu> thoreauputic, good point ... that's why i softened it though - asking a question of slight mental impairment.
[10:21] <thebishop> i still like it for enabling-disabling plugins, but the plugin parameters are a crapshoot
[10:21] <thebishop> and it makes it easy to enable/disable compiz
[10:22] <Scottrix> so what do people suggest?
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> also, take xgl discussion to #ubuntu-xgl
[10:23] <thebishop> good call
[10:24] <thebishop> and #xgl folks are helpful
[10:27] <Scottrix> can't see that alt+tab plugin
[10:29] <Higgy> hi, i'm trying to install the 915resolution package but it requires a slightly later version of libc6 than in supplied with dapper but i can't find an updated package
[10:30] <Higgy> any idea where i can get it?
[10:30] <thebishop> Higgy, i don't think you need that anymore
[10:30] <thebishop> 915 works fine for me without it
[10:31] <Higgy> oh, ok
[10:32] <Manziege> could someone please help me install windows via qemu?
[10:32] <Higgy> any idea how i configure my screen resolution to what it should be (1280x800)?
[10:33] <Higgy> is it just a matter of adding the 'forceBIOS' line to xorg.conf?
[10:33] <thebishop> i've never used that
[10:33] <recklessray> hi all, im trying to open and view the contents of an iso file that contains some mpegs. how can i do that from the command line? when i try to cd into the iso, i get the 'file is not a directory' error msg...
[10:34] <debuntu> recklessray, you have to mount the iso onto the loopback
[10:34] <thebishop> Higgy, have you tried just adding 1280x800 to xorg?
[10:35] <recklessray> how do i mount it like that debuntu?
[10:35] <recklessray> do you know of a howto ?
[10:35] <debuntu> recklessray, i sensed that was the next question :)
[10:35] <debuntu> recklessray, i'll tell you
[10:35] <Manziege> could someon please help me get my CD-RW Drive working?
[10:36] <thebishop> ugh
[10:36] <thebishop> i don't know what you'd do if it doesn't work otb
[10:36] <thebishop> is it ide?
[10:37] <debuntu> recklessray, look at my pm to you :)
[10:39] <debuntu> recklessray, ok anyway ... 'modprobe loop'; 'sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop <filename>.iso /mnt/iso'
[10:40] <debuntu> recklessray, remember to create a mount point, or use an existing one (the /mnt/iso part)
[10:40] <recklessray> ok cool, ill give it a go. ill paste that onto a note and try later - gota run - MANY THANKS!
[10:40] <snakehit> somebody have experience with airsnort?
[10:41] <zsh> hi! i just upgraded to dapper from breezy but i'm still running on the 2.6.12 linux kernel instead of 2.6.15. anyone know how i can sort this out??
[10:42] <thoreauputic> zsh: have you rebooted since?
[10:42] <snakehit> autoupdate ?
[10:42] <snakehit> sniper ^
[10:42] <snakehit> lol
[10:42] <zsh> 2.6.15 is not an option in grub. thoreauputic, yes i have, twice
[10:43] <thoreauputic> zsh: hmm - odd then
[10:43] <zsh> in synaptic it shows that 2.6.15 is installed
[10:43] <thoreauputic> zsh: is 2.6.15 in your /boot directory ?
[10:43] <zsh> lemm check
[10:44] <zsh> lemme*
[10:44] <thoreauputic> if so , grub needs an update I guess
[10:44] <frogzoo> I don't get sound in flash - what to do?
[10:44] <frogzoo> !flash
[10:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:44] <zsh> thoreauputic, there are some files that have 2.6.15 in them
[10:45] <bayle> hola
[10:45] <zsh> thoreauputic, like system.map-2.6.15
[10:45] <thoreauputic> zsh: you are looking for something like vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-686
[10:45] <thoreauputic> or 386 or whatever...
[10:45] <zsh> thoreauputic, yes its there
[10:46] <Warbo> Can someone try running xteddy please? I want to see if my problem is unique
[10:46] <thoreauputic> zsh: OK grub needs a reminder I guess - try running sudo update-grub
[10:46] <zsh> ok
[10:46] <keithhhh> Can someone tell me how to install vmware so I can run windows in linux?
[10:46] <Ranbee> hi, is there any way to do build-essential without an internet connection? is it somewhere on the cd?
[10:47] <thoreauputic> Ranbee: yes, it's on theCD
[10:47] <Ranbee> thoreauputic: thanks, it that already configured, or do i need to add it in synaptic?
[10:47] <zsh> thoreauputic, it says no grub directory found.
[10:48] <thoreauputic> Ranbee: should be configured - check that the CD is in your list ( System - Admin - Software Properties)
[10:48] <zsh> !vmware
[10:48] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[10:48] <thoreauputic> zsh: hmmm
[10:48] <Ranbee> thoreauputic: thanks so much :)
[10:49] <thoreauputic> zsh: do you have a /boot/grub directory?
[10:49] <zsh> !vmware > keithhhh
[10:49] <zsh> thoreauputic, nope!
[10:49] <Papageno> If I have a computer than can boot into Damn Small Linux (from HDD), how would I start on it an Ubuntu net install? The computer does not have a CD or floppy drive (at least no working ones)--the DSL is booting from HDD.
[10:49] <thoreauputic> zsh: well, that seems to be the problem then
[10:50] <thoreauputic> zsh: somehow you lost your grub dir
[10:50] <zsh> thoreauputic, i dont get it. last time i upgraded the kernel i didnt have this problem
[10:50] <thoreauputic> zsh: yes, it seems very odd
[10:50] <zsh> thoreauputic, does it matter that my box is dual boot
[10:50] <thoreauputic> zsh: you might have to reinstall grub
[10:51] <Warbo> If an Ubutnu sytem has been installed on a USB drive using debootstrap, is installing GRUB just as simple as "sudo grub-install /dev/sda"?
[10:51] <thoreauputic> zsh: it might matter - do you have another linux, or windows?
[10:51] <zsh> thoreauputic, i had windows initially, then i after i found out the joys of ubuntu i formatted that partition
[10:52] <zsh> :)
[10:52] <Warbo> Papageno: You could use debootstrap to install Ubuntu from within another Linux system
[10:52] <thoreauputic> zsh: for instance do youhave a separate /boot partition?
[10:52] <snakehit> does anyone know when i typ 'make' in terminal it never works
[10:52] <snakehit> Always command not found
[10:52] <thoreauputic> snakehit: install build-essential
[10:52] <Warbo> snakehit: install "build-essential"
[10:52] <snakehit> is that
[10:52] <snakehit> apt-get install build-essential?
[10:52] <Warbo> "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[10:52] <Warbo> (or apt-get)
[10:52] <thoreauputic> snail: yes , prepend sudo
[10:53] <snakehit> ok
[10:53] <snakehit> done
[10:53] <snakehit> lets try :P
[10:53] <snakehit> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[10:53] <Herb> 4 days of Linux, so far...
[10:53] <snakehit> 2 week of Ubuntu here :P
[10:53] <snakehit> Try to fix airsnort
[10:54] <Warbo> snakehit: Are you sure you have run ./configure ?
[10:54] <IRCMonkeyX> is opera universe repo ?
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> !opera > IRCMonkeyX
[10:55] <thoreauputic> snakehit: you need to have a makefile and be in the right directory :)
[10:55] <snakehit> i see
[10:55] <snakehit> thats ok
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> you also need the source
[10:55] <Warbo> IRCMonkeyX: No, it is in the commercial repo (go in Applications>Add/Remove)
[10:55] <snakehit> but i read now the text, it gives an error
[10:55] <snakehit> configure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.12.0    atk >= 1.9.0    pango >= 1.12.0    cairo >= 1.2.0) were not met.
[10:55] <RudyValencia> Is it possible to make X "manual-start"?
[10:55] <Papageno> Warbo: Can you please be more specific? Is there maybe a tutorial just for this--for installing Ubuntu from another linux environment?
[10:55] <Warbo> RudyValencia: Type "X"
[10:55] <IRCMonkeyX> people, they say that opera's speed is more than firefox , is it correct ? do u use it ?
[10:56] <debuntu> IRCMonkeyX, it is faster, but has some small rendering probs on occasion
[10:56] <Herb> i use opera,, just find it more comfortable
[10:56] <debuntu> IRCMonkeyX, i prefer swiftfox
[10:56] <RudyValencia> Clarification: how do I set it up so it doesn't automatically load at startup?
[10:56] <Warbo> Papageno: If you install debootstrap then run it (check out it's manual for options) then it will install an Ubuntu system into a folder (so if you have mounted a HD partition in that folder it will install to the partition), then you can use chroot (once again, look at the manual) to configure it
[10:57] <Warbo> RudyValencia: I think you would have to remove GDM, KDM, XDM, etc. from the bootup (with update-rc.d"
[10:57] <RudyValencia> OK
[10:57] <snakehit> I like ubuntu but its not easy to install programs, in windows you do .exe and next next... and it works :P Here you  need to do 100 things and its not yet working :P
[10:57] <IRCMonkeyX> i always used ie, than started to use firefox with ubuntu, firefox was a revolution for me, and now people says opera is better :)
[10:58] <snakehit> es
[10:58] <Warbo> !synaptic > snakehit
[10:58] <snakehit> Yes
[10:58] <m0> hi can we make the other screens workspaces different backgrounds?
[10:58] <Warbo> snakehit: Windows programs do not come as source code, but Free Software generally does
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> on my system, opera takes 216 MB of RAM, Firefox, 86 MB. Both have 6 tabs open.
[10:59] <m0> currently i have the same background on all screens
[10:59] <Higgy> thebishop: 1280x800 is the only resolution listed under the screen section on xorg.conf
[10:59] <Higgy> do i neeed to add it somewhere else?
[10:59] <kakado> fyrestrtr, shure its not virtual ram?
[10:59] <Warbo> snakehit: If there is no Ubuntu .deb available then it is not a fair comparison to Windows exe files, and also source code may take a few steps to install, but those steps work on LOADS of different operating systems on LOADS of different computer architectures
[11:00] <smack> can someone help me out with loading a module on boot?
[11:00] <Warbo> smack: Put it in /etc/modules
[11:00] <smack> I did that, it doesn't load.
[11:01] <smack> I can insmod after I'm booted and it loads.
[11:01] <HumanPrototype> hi all
[11:01] <smack> but it will not load in /etc/modules
[11:01] <debuntu> snakehit, also, with windows the IQ you need is not all that high, with linux it is a bit harder.
[11:01] <snakehit> yes Warbo, but like now. I want to install Airsnort, maby you know that program. But i can't install it because i need to update gtk+, when i update gtk+ then it says that i need to update glib... its a long way
[11:01] <IRCMonkeyX> warbo: opera is not in add remove,  its name is different ? i cant find it...i click for commercial too
[11:01] <Warbo> snakehit: If a package was available then that would be automatic....
[11:02] <snakehit> a package is a .deb file?
[11:02] <eitch0000> !xgl
[11:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:02] <Warbo> IRCMonkeyX: I am pretty sure it is there, hang on
[11:02] <Herb> i have installed Opera, it must be easy...
[11:02] <HumanPrototype> I have just brought a dual core amd skt 939 (3800) and just wanted to know if there is any advice before I jump into 64bit ubuntu?
[11:02] <Warbo> snakehit: For Ubuntu, yes
[11:02] <keithhhh> to run windows in ubuntu do I install VMware Server for Linux??
[11:02] <snakehit> Yes
[11:02] <snakehit> keithhhh, or a dual boot
[11:02] <kakado> smack, probably the ordering matters, maybe put it in the end
[11:03] <snakehit> I have it as a dual boot, very easy
[11:03] <bbrazil> HumanPrototype: unless you really want 64bit, run 32bit
[11:03] <keithhhh> snakehit: I dont want dual boot
[11:03] <smack> kakado: is it at the end.
[11:03] <snakehit> Ok
[11:03] <HumanPrototype> bbrazil, surely that loses half the benefits?
[11:03] <kakado> smack, maybe then at the beginning
[11:03] <Herb> me too... dual boot is fool proof
[11:03] <smack> I only have 3 things in modules
[11:03] <smack> and one I added.
[11:04] <bbrazil> HumanPrototype: not really. lots of bugs still to be worked out in 64bit
[11:04] <ramin> can someone help me with installing WINE
[11:04] <Josbeat> hi every1
[11:04] <ramin> I really need help
[11:04] <Warbo> IRCMonkeyX: I see it in Internet as "Opera"
[11:04] <HumanPrototype> bbrazil, would I be better off going for a different distro or is the story the same all over?
[11:04] <Herb> i tried running Gentoo under VirtualPC , in Windows, it installed, but what an arcane OS
[11:05] <ramin> Virtual machine isn't good with linux
[11:05] <bbrazil> HumanPrototype: story is the same everywhere
[11:05] <ramin> virtual machine was only made for windows and OS/2
[11:05] <smack> does the location of the module matter?
[11:05] <HumanPrototype> bbrazil, hmm, thanks, slightly annoying though. Maybe I will go for x64bit anyway and bug test
[11:05] <Warbo> smack: I think it needs to be installed (somewhere in /lib/modules)
[11:05] <Herb> ubuntu seems to be much more "dummy friendly"
[11:06] <snakehit> ramin,  you have also a VM for Linux
[11:06] <ramin> yeah
[11:06] <smack> installed how?
[11:06] <snakehit> i used that
[11:06] <ramin> sort of
[11:06] <kakado> smack, it should be found by modprobe without the path
[11:06] <keithhhh> keithhhh: to run windows in ubuntu do I install VMware Server for Linux??
[11:06] <Warbo> smack: Usually "make install"
[11:06] <snakehit> thats possible, but it works :P
[11:06] <ramin> yeah
[11:06] <IRCMonkeyX> warbo: i dont have it in internet :(
[11:06] <Warbo> (when you compiled it)
[11:06] <m0> sudo hi anyone know how to install gset-compiz
[11:06] <m0> I am doing apt-get install gset-compiz and it says it doesn't exist
[11:06] <Warbo> IRCMonkeyX: Did it updte itself after adding commercial?
[11:06] <smack> make install left it in the directory I compiled from.
[11:06] <ramin> but I really don't get WINE, can't they just let us download a RPM
[11:07] <Warbo> m0: Look at the AIGLX page on help.ubuntu.com/community (I put a link to it there)
[11:07] <ramin> I have to run my windows programs in linux
[11:07] <Warbo> m0: Just search for aiglx and it redirects
[11:07] <IRCMonkeyX> warbo: sudo apt-get update ? no i didnt do this
[11:07] <HumanPrototype> bbrazil, would I be able to download sources and then compile it myself or are the sources still architecture specific?
[11:07] <Warbo> IRCMonkeyX: I am not sure whether it updates after choosing new repos, but you would notice the progress bars
[11:07] <Herb> I'm gonna leave this install alone, for a week or two... and then maybe change a Theme or my login screen
[11:08] <ramin> any ideas anyone
[11:08] <bbrazil> HumanPrototype: sources are for all archs
[11:08] <m0> Warbo: okay I searched fr aiglx but I don't see gset-compiz
[11:08] <m0> n,m
[11:08] <m0> last sentence
[11:08] <smack> modprobe doesn't find the module, how do I fix this?
[11:08] <Warbo> m0: Exactly
[11:08] <HumanPrototype> bbrazil, good - thanks for all the help. I'm off to go look at a source distro and the apt source toold
[11:08] <IRCMonkeyX> warbo: sudo apt-get install opera ? is this ok ? should i install it via terminal ?
[11:09] <Warbo> IRCMonkeyX: As far as I can tell the commercial repo isn't used by apt, sicne it doesn't get added to sources.list. There must be a reason for this, but basically it restricts you to Add/Remove
[11:09] <keithhhh> To run windows in ubuntu do I install VMware Server for Linux??
[11:09] <m0> Warbo: guess what:) http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/pool/main/g/gset-compiz/
[11:09] <m0> The page you requested is no longer here.
[11:09] <m0> your basic 404 error
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> !vmware > keithhhh
[11:09] <ramin> i dont know
[11:09] <ramin> I am trying WINE
[11:09] <debuntu> keithhhh, not the server, just the normal one
[11:09] <kakado> smack, modules are placed in /lib/modules/*kernel* - I dont know the details
[11:09] <ramin> for my windows programs
[11:10] <Warbo> keithhhh: To RUN WIndows in Ubunt uget vmware-player, but I don't think that will let you install Windows in it so you may need the server
[11:10] <Herb> i have installed Flashplayer, Opera(i think), and real player, so i can stream non-ogg music, plus i changed my default boot sequence...
[11:10] <loko555> hello, i try to mount my encrypted harddrive but i get the message: ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: Invalid argument. can somebody help me out please?
[11:10] <keithhhh> debuntu: cool thanks
[11:10] <IRCMonkeyX> warbo: i am downloading its .deb file
[11:10] <Warbo> IRCMonkeyX: Well that should work just as well
[11:10] <fyrestrtr> IRCMonkeyX: install it from the repositories
[11:10] <ramin> what is VMware
[11:10] <debuntu> ramin, a devil's tool to keep ppl dependant upon the devil himself
[11:10] <IRCMonkeyX> fyrestrtr: i cant
[11:10] <ramin> oh
[11:10] <fyrestrtr> why not?
[11:11] <IRCMonkeyX> fyrestrtr: i dont know the reason
[11:11] <Warbo> IRCMonkeyX: If it is missing dependencies then either Gdebi will sort them out, or if you install it with dpkg run "sudo apt-get -f install" to fix dependencies
[11:11] <Herb> oh yeah,, and i installed XChat..... couldn't figure out that GAIM client
[11:11] <ramin> so, pretty much, let windows stuff run
[11:11] <debuntu> ramin, it's a virtual machine, so yeah
[11:11] <fyrestrtr> IRCMonkeyX: add the commerical repo to /etc/apt/sources.list, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install opera
[11:12] <Warbo> !info wine
[11:12] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[11:12] <ramin> thanks
[11:12] <IRCMonkeyX> fyrestrtr: i use gnome. is opera for kde ??
[11:12] <Herb> also, my windows partitions are now mounted, and have an Icon on the desktop
[11:12] <Warbo> Opera uses QT
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> no, opera doesn't care what you use.
[11:12] <ramin> I am looking forward to running live messenger in there
[11:12] <debuntu> Herb, hot diggity .. what else?
[11:13] <debuntu> ramin, why?
[11:13] <Herb> no crashes!
[11:13] <fyrestrtr> ramin: you should check http://appdb.winehq.org to see how well your application is supported, if you plan to use wine to run it.
[11:13] <ramin> okay
[11:14] <ramin> that's true
[11:14] <justsomemo> Question: Sometimes when I login to gnome, it boots into the splash screen, loads to my desktop, then the screen goes black and takes me back to the login screen.  This happens about 1/3 times.  Any ideas?
[11:14] <ramin> reinstall?
[11:14] <IRCMonkeyX> fyrestrtr: what should i write to source list ? sorry for this newbie question
[11:15] <ramin> justsomeo, reinstall
[11:15] <ramin> and back up
[11:15] <Herb> did i mention i did this all while drunk?
[11:15] <justsomemo> full reinstall?
[11:15] <Healot> justsomemo, logon with the failsage mode
[11:15] <ramin> yeah, won't take long
[11:15] <Healot> s/sage/safe
[11:15] <fyrestrtr> IRCMonkeyX: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[11:15] <ramin> backup ur data
[11:15] <ramin> I would do anything that is better
[11:15] <fyrestrtr> justsomemo: check ~/.xsession-errors
[11:15] <justsomemo> healot, that is a temp solution that has been working, but i cant just use failsafe all the time
[11:16] <ramin> well, a fresh install is always good
[11:16] <ramin> if maybe that is the only solution
[11:16] <IRCMonkeyX> fyrestrtr: do i need to put # in beginning ?
[11:16] <ramin> for irc?
[11:16] <ramin> yes
[11:16] <justsomemo> ramin: the ony problem is I already fresh installed yesterday, and the problem came back
[11:17] <ramin> it could be the cd
[11:17] <ramin> corrupted files
[11:17] <ramin> u know what i mean?
[11:17] <justsomemo> true
[11:18] <ramin> just don't waste like 20 cds, it could just have issues or something
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> IRCMonkeyX: no
[11:18] <justsomemo> could it be my theme?
[11:18] <ramin> which theme do u have
[11:18] <ramin> which one have u chosen
[11:19] <justsomemo> murrine
[11:19] <justsomemo> Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "murrine", at /usr/bin/checkgmail line 369.
[11:19] <ramin> let me look into it
[11:19] <ramin> i doubt it
[11:19] <ICE> hey anyone use nx free or free nx
[11:19] <ICE> here
[11:20] <ramin> although, u could give it a try
[11:20] <justsomemo> this error looks like it could be a bad one:
[11:20] <justsomemo> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[11:20] <justsomemo>   Major opcode:  145
[11:20] <justsomemo>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:20] <justsomemo>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:20] <justsomemo> Failed to open device
[11:20] <ramin> device?
[11:21] <justsomemo> No idea
[11:21] <ramin> just change it to a theme that it comes with
[11:21] <justsomemo> but there are like 5 instances of the error in the log
[11:21] <bbrazil> w
[11:21] <m0> hi does anyione know where I could find gset-compiz
[11:21] <ramin> nope, atleast i don't
[11:21] <Healot> !find compiz
[11:21] <ubotu> Found: compiz, compiz-gnome, compiz-kde
[11:22] <ramin> 765 people in this channel, and only like 10 active
[11:22] <ramin> wow
[11:22] <IRCMonkeyX> fyrestrtr: it worked, downloading now ,thanx
[11:23] <ubuntu_hammer> hi all, how are you?:)
[11:23] <FirstStrike> just peachy
[11:23] <ramin> it's funny cause i am chatting with chatzilla
[11:23] <DanaG> AArgh, something's eating my CPU.  How do I find out what it is?  It's not in Top.
[11:24] <ramin> it is so cool for a javascript program
[11:24] <ramin> :)
[11:24] <m0> it seems gset-compiz no longer exists
[11:24] <ICE> who uses remote desktop
[11:25] <ICE> win to linux
[11:25] <Healot> you can either use putty (with ssh) or vnc clients
[11:25] <ramin> which product of VMware do i download to run windows stuff in my linux box
[11:25] <ICE> got a question can you have sshd on two different prots
[11:26] <DanaG> Anyone?
[11:26] <ubuntu_hammer> does anyone know how to repair clvm error code 3 while installing soft? i red a lot about it and dont know what to do
[11:26] <Healot> ramin, workstation version
[11:26] <ramin> oh thanks
[11:26] <siXy> ramin - you probably want wine rather than vwmare or xen
[11:26] <ramin> i know, but i don't know how to download it
[11:26] <Healot> !info vmware-player
[11:26] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4 (dapper), package size 11563 kB, installed size 31248 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[11:27] <ubuntu_hammer> people-please
[11:27] <ubuntu_hammer> :)
[11:27] <FirstStrike> DanaG: try ps -e
[11:27] <siXy> vmware/xen runs an entire windows os, whereas wine just emulate a windows envronment to allow you to run windows programs
[11:27] <ramin> wine is good
[11:27] <ramin> but how do i get it in my applications tab
[11:28] <Healot> ubotu is a person, respect robot ubotu
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a person, respect robot ubotu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <ramin> and actually run it
[11:28] <flo> hi, i downloaded totem-xine but I don't get sound when playing movies with audio codec "Windows Media Audio v2 (win32)". Where can i get the missing codecs?
[11:28] <siXy> plus vmware is definately non-trivial to install and set up
[11:28] <ICE> can you run sshd on two different ports ?
[11:28] <ubuntu_hammer> does anyone know how to repair clvm error code 3 while installing soft? i red a lot about it and dont know what to do
[11:28] <ICE> or no
[11:28] <siXy> ramin there is very likely a wine package for ubuntu -search the repositorys
[11:28] <ramin> okay,
[11:29] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[11:29] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[11:29] <siXy> ramin: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[11:29] <ramin> thanks!
[11:29] <siXy> np
[11:29] <Warbo> ramin: WINE is not actually an application. WINE lets you run Windows applications, so install WINE then double click your .exe files
[11:29] <DanaG> Okay, so it's gnome-settings-daemon that's eating CPU.
[11:29] <y0shi> why doesn't Enable Automatic Login works?
[11:29] <DanaG> WTF?
[11:29] <ramin> oh
[11:29] <ramin> so i could just download an exe and open it with wine
[11:30] <y0shi> Wine is an application, that lets you run windows applications.
[11:30] <ubuntu_hammer> does anyone know how to repair clvm error code 3 while installing soft? i red a lot about it and dont know what to do
[11:30] <siXy> ramin: wine emulates a load of windows apis,, so when wine is running, just open a .exe as you would in windows and it should run
[11:30] <ramin> but how do i get wine running?
[11:30] <Herb> "emulation", damn liquor.. could not remember that word
[11:30] <ramin> where do i click to start it, sorry, i suck
[11:31] <ramin> but just help me on this
[11:31] <siXy> install it like it says on that link i sent you, then start the service
[11:31] <Healot> WINE is not emulator
[11:31] <y0shi> ramin, you can use the command line: wine app.exe
[11:31] <Warbo> ramin: You can run it from a terminal with "wine program-name.exe"
[11:31] <ramin> oh okay
[11:31] <y0shi> why doesn't Enable Automatic Login works?
[11:32] <maz> is wine free?
[11:32] <Herb> "performance hit", isn't that a sister phrase of emulator?
[11:32] <ramin> yes
[11:32] <y0shi> maz: yes
[11:32] <ramin> all linux stuff is
[11:32] <ramin> atleast, i think
[11:32] <v3> I connect to the net via a proxy server. There are many proxies that my university runs. How do i find the best onne automatically ? is there any program that does that ?
[11:32] <maz> cool y0shi
[11:32] <ramin> dude, wine is pimp
[11:32] <v3> the more basic requriement is to find a proxy that works ... i am talking of http proxies
[11:32] <siXy> ramin: not true. lots of linux stuff is, but by no means all
[11:33] <ramin> that's true
[11:33] <shism> hello
[11:33] <kakado> ramin, not all, eg Oracle programs are not free
[11:33] <realist> I've had some applications run -better- on linux under wine, than on windows itself...
[11:33] <shism> does ubuntu 5.10 come with gtk ?
[11:33] <ramin> I have actually put my windows harddrives away for a while
[11:33] <msikma> Does anyone know if there is a page where I can see exactly which possible cursors I can make for a cursor theme?
[11:33] <ramin> does WINE allow u to run programs that need internet connection
[11:34] <msikma> Or should I look at other cursor themes for information?
[11:34] <shism> im trying to install wxpython
[11:34] <shism> checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
[11:34] <shism> checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.0.0... no
[11:34] <shism> *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...
[11:34] <shism> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[11:34] <shism> *** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.
[11:34] <shism> configure: error:
[11:34] <shism> get that error message
[11:34] <kakado> ramin, yes I once tried IE
[11:34] <Herb> realist: what type of apps?...  P2P clients?
[11:34] <ICE> hey can I run sshd on two seperate ports
[11:34] <ICE> say like 22 and 8000
[11:34] <ramin> oh good, cause i wanted to run msn messenger in it
[11:34] <snakehit> .rpm can you get that .deb?
[11:34] <realist> Herb: a few games, actually.
[11:35] <kakado> ramin, gaim is a good alternative
[11:35] <siXy> ramin: just use gaim - it will work with msn, yahoo and probably others too, and save messing around with windows emuloation
[11:35] <ramin> is that like wine
[11:35] <ramin> oh
[11:35] <Healot> the best for Penguin world I'd say
[11:35] <JoshHendo> I have recieved a email from launchpad encrypted (I have the key that it is encrypted with). I am trying to register my own key. How do I decrypt the email message?
[11:35] <ramin> nevermind
[11:35] <ramin> i now remember what gaim is
[11:36] <realist> JoshHendo: what mail client?
[11:36] <siXy> gaim is an instant messaging prog for linux that iirc installs by defualt in ubuntu desktop (not used desktop version for a while tho so not 100% sure)
[11:36] <ramin> but doesn't gaim have stuff that some can't do
[11:36] <realist> ramin: or you could forget MSN client all together, and use jabber, with an MSN transport
[11:36] <Warbo> !info grub
[11:36] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 748 kB
[11:36] <shism> how do i get the gtk development files?
[11:36] <ramin> i don't know
[11:37] <shism> argh
[11:37] <mp3guy> I've got a problem with disappearing drivers
[11:37] <realist> shism: apt-cache search gtk-dev
[11:37] <thoreauputic> shism:  apt-cache search python wx  <--- I think you'll find wxpython is installable without compiling anything
[11:37] <ramin> actually, i just ran gaim
[11:37] <ramin> it looks real cool
[11:37] <ramin> thanks for the tip guys
[11:38] <siXy> shish ubuntu development packages end in -dev but i cant remember the exact name of the one you want
[11:38] <sioux> hi people :-)
[11:39] <ramin> gaim only shows the people that are online
[11:39] <realist> siXy: man apt-cache
[11:39] <ramin> that kinda sucks
[11:39] <realist> ramin: you can change that.
[11:39] <ramin> oh good
[11:39] <realist> I prefer it though
[11:39] <ramin> yeah
[11:39] <realist> Less clutter
[11:39] <shism> dam couldnt find it
[11:39] <mp3guy> ramin: try looking around the program for yourself, theres tonnes of options
[11:39] <ramin> yep
[11:40] <realist> shism: which development files are you after, exactly?
[11:41] <mp3guy> is there anyone here who can help me with my nvidia card?
[11:41] <shism> no.. ive found them
[11:41] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, whats the problem?
[11:41] <ramin> u can also add new friends to ur list. right?
[11:41] <gmak> mp3guy you want to install the driver I presume
[11:41] <realist> ramin: sure
[11:41] <ramin> okay
[11:41] <shism> I just did the apt-cache search thingo and it didnt find anything to do with wxpython
[11:41] <realist> ramin: it's all in the 'buddies' menu
[11:42] <ramin> oh yeah
[11:42] <ramin> thanks
[11:42] <ramin> LINUX IS AWESOME!
[11:42] <damian_> is there an undo feature somewhere?
[11:42] <thoreauputic> shism: it does - did you do what I typed ?
[11:42] <realist> ramin: I happen to agree with you :-)
[11:42] <ramin> LLL=Long live linux
[11:42] <Awesome-o2000> ramin, sure beats paying 200 bucks for a half broken buggy turd of an OS eh?
[11:43] <siXy> when it works.....
[11:43] <damian_> I agree with siXy
[11:43] <ramin> yeah, *cough cough windows cough cough*
[11:43] <Awesome-o2000> I have to say, ubuntu is really fantastic
[11:43] <thoreauputic>  apt-cache search python wx  <<- lots of results
[11:43] <siXy> im rapidly going off ubuntu as a server os however
[11:43] <a_l_e> hello, i have much too many fonts on my ubuntu system... is there a clean way to get rid of them?
[11:43] <Awesome-o2000> siXy, what are you using for server?
[11:43] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, gmak, well I started having a problem where upon boot the /lib/modules/(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/nvidia directory would have disappeared and I'd have to use the nv driver to boot up and reinstall the nvidia driver, I also found that if I run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it doesn't automatically detect my card, which is used to do. I tried a full reformat/reinstall but stil the same
[11:43] <ramin> apache
[11:43] <realist> shism: python-gtk2-dev perhaps?
[11:44] <damian_> is there an undo feature in ubuntu?
[11:44] <siXy> well it works well as a lamp server, but I am not impressed with it for a dns server
[11:44] <ramin> if u want a server with a GUI, install server programs for ur ubuntu
[11:44] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, :(( thats not cool - do you have pnp bios enabled in the bios?
[11:44] <a_l_e> i've never manually install those fonts... thy must be bundled to some soft... but which?
[11:44] <siXy> server and gui should never be used in the same sentance imo
[11:44] <ramin> for example, MySQL, PHP,
[11:44] <ramin> why not
[11:44] <realist> siXy: debian is a nice alternative :-)
[11:44] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, no, I haven't changed anything in the bios since
[11:45] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, what is your HW setup?
[11:45] <siXy> massive, unnesecary resource hog, not to mention the security implications
[11:45] <ramin> u mean GUI
[11:45] <ramin> i guess
[11:45] <Awesome-o2000> ramin, what do you prefer for server?
[11:45] <chronoAZ> how can i load ubuntu (desktop installation) with only a command line?
[11:45] <chronoAZ> i cbf reinstalling a server version
[11:45] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, I have a pentium 4 prescott 2.4GHz, 768mb ram and a Geforce 3 Ti 500 64mb agpX4 graphics card, and an auidigy 4
[11:45] <thoreauputic> chronoAZ: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:46] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, similar to mine - does your motherboard have an onboard video card?
[11:46] <thoreauputic> chronoAZ: assuming you have a base install
[11:46] <ramin> maybe FEDORA OR RED HAT
[11:46] <siXy> giving gentoo another whirl atm
[11:46] <Awesome-o2000> ramin, both gui oriented too
[11:46] <ramin> i know
[11:46] <Awesome-o2000> siXy, gentoo is nice.
[11:46] <ramin> but they are good
[11:46] <chronoAZ> thoreauputic: i have a desktop install but i only want to use a command line (since i dont want to have to install the server version)
[11:46] <Awesome-o2000> siXy, I give those guys props for a fine distro as well
[11:46] <damian_> is there an undo feature in gnome?
[11:46] <ramin> I actually know some websites which run on RED HAT
[11:46] <Awesome-o2000> ramin, lots of them do
[11:46] <ramin> although, what would u prefer
[11:46] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, no, it doesn't. Any idea whats wrong? I thought the HD was dying, but it couldn't still be the same after I reformatted and scanned it all, could it be my graphics card or mobo?
[11:46] <kakado> damian_, clarify undo
[11:47] <ramin> yep
[11:47] <thoreauputic> chronoAZ: umm - could you rephrase that? It didn't seem to make sense
[11:47] <siXy> its between ubuntu,gentoo and centos for this server atm and while centos(redhat) is what im used to, its not great performance wise
[11:47] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, your card works when you load up the module yourself, right?
[11:47] <damian_> kakado: like if I accidentally move a file somehwere I'd like to be able to undo the move from nautilus
[11:47] <siXy> ubuntu just does things in such a weird (to me) way everything takes much longer
[11:47] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, yep it works 100% when the driver is loaded. I found the driver disappears when fsck runs
[11:47] <ramin> maybe
[11:48] <ramin> But i just like ubuntu cause of the GUI
[11:48] <ramin> and how shiny it is
[11:48] <ramin> SPIFFY....
[11:48] <chronoAZ> thoreauputic: i don't want to use a gui with my system but i have the desktop version of ubuntu installed
[11:48] <Herb> ubuntu works great for great for connecting to IRC
[11:48] <ramin> of course
[11:48] <Faithful> I want to clean out my apt transaction log... I started to install an application that I realized was older than the one I have... but now it it is insisting on doing it every time I run apt
[11:48] <chronoAZ> thoreauputic: how can i disable gnome and x?
[11:48] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, thats REALLY not a good sign. Someone here might be able to help you out with HD diagnostics, which I'd recommend trying out the manufacturers disk, and dmesg might be able to tell you something useful
[11:48] <thoreauputic> chronoAZ: ah I see - wellyou can just disable gdm
[11:48] <sioux> People but  Mark Shuttleworth who is this man?
[11:48] <ailean> What do I need to install to get sound juicer to rip to mp3? Note, I already have the plugins to PLAY them.
[11:48] <tuxtux> ciao
[11:49] <chronoAZ> thoreauputic: ah ok thanks
[11:49] <kakado> damian_, only the trash, but not with move, then there is the filesystem, debugfs for ext2/3
[11:49] <thoreauputic> chronoAZ: uninstall gdm or just do ctrl-alt-F1 or whatever...
[11:49] <Herb> shuttleworth is a spaceman
[11:49] <ramin> it seems like none of my programs can play MP3's
[11:49] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, as far as making the module load automatically I think its either an init.d entry or you can just add it to /etc/modules
[11:49] <ramin> WHY!
[11:49] <thoreauputic> chronoAZ: or remove the gdm startup script
[11:49] <damian_> ramin: you don't have any codecs installed
[11:49] <DanaG> Wow, gnome-settings-daemon is really heating up my CPU.
[11:49] <DanaG> Quite massively.
[11:49] <chronoAZ> thoreauputic: ok thanks
[11:49] <damian_> ramin: do sudo rm -rf /
[11:49] <siXy> ramin you probably dont have the codec installed
[11:49] <thoreauputic> !mp3
[11:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:49] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, but I can't see how even after a reformat it just happens to delete the same files and the same directory and nothing else
[11:49] <ramin> k
[11:49] <sioux> a spaceman very rich thanks to proprietary software itsen't it?
[11:49] <damian_> ramin: no
[11:49] <damian_> ramin: stop
[11:50] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, me either - how are you installing the drivers?
[11:50] <damian_> ramin: I was kidding
[11:50] <ramin> then what
[11:50] <damian_> ramin: that will delete everything
[11:50] <ramin> oh, what does that do
[11:50] <ramin> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[11:50] <damian_> lol
[11:50] <ailean> damian, don't do that
[11:50] <ramin> I AM A NOOB
[11:50] <r000t> someone here know anything about software raid and how to use it in dapper????
[11:50] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, just through synaptic, its weird that dpkg-reconfigure doesn't detect my card
[11:50] <ramin> where do i get codecs?
[11:50] <damian_> ramin: everyone from 4 miles away can tell that
[11:50] <damian_> ramin: lemme get you a guide
[11:50] <ramin> k
[11:50] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, I dont know synaptic, but im pretty sure the linux binary drivers are part of linux-restricted-modules
[11:50] <ailean> damian_, are you gonna help or what?
[11:50] <ramin> thanks
[11:51] <crparr> Hi! I'd like to do the following: I've downloaded the Ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu and ubuntu server isos. I'd like to create a DVD with a grub boot selector. Is this possible? If yes, how?
[11:51] <ramin> ailean, comeon,
[11:51] <dibblego> how do I schedule a wget command to execute at midnight?
[11:51] <Herb> is codecs anything like crabs? i know where to get them...
[11:51] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, yeah they are, I install from the repos
[11:51] <mrkinder> I've been having troubles with mp3s too, I did pretty much everything codec related in the synaptic package manager but to no avail, am I barking up the wrong tree?
[11:51] <damian_> ramin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[11:51] <ramin> cool, i will try
[11:51] <kakado> dibblego, man cron
[11:51] <mrkinder> I'll have a look there too
[11:51] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, then I would suspect that you have HD issues - does dmesg tell you anything about your drive?
[11:51] <Awesome-o2000> any kinda i/o errors or anything?
[11:52] <thoreauputic> dibblego: once only? use "at " If every midnight, use "cron"
[11:52] <damian_> ailean: you've never played around w/ a noob before?
[11:52] <ramin> can i install codecs from the link u gave me?
[11:52] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, no, nothing about it. Its only a a year old, 80gb samsung ide
[11:52] <dibblego> thoreauputic, just tonight
[11:52] <damian_> ramin: it's a guide that will teach you how to install the codecs
[11:52] <ailean> damian_, this room is for helping, NOT playing around
[11:52] <damian_> ramin: read it and follow the instructions
[11:52] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, so you have to reinstall linux-restricted-modules every time?
[11:52] <ramin> alright
[11:52] <r000t> someone here know anything about software raid and how to use it in dapper????
[11:52] <ailean> damian_, what if he had typed that?
[11:52] <damian_> ailean: one less linux noob i guess
[11:52] <thoreauputic> dibblego:  at midnight <enter> wget your.url.here.com
[11:53] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, yes everytime they disappear
[11:53] <thoreauputic> dibblego: then hit dtrl+D
[11:53] <ramin> damian, how long have u been using ubuntu
[11:53] <dibblego> thoreauputic, thanks
[11:53] <thoreauputic> *ctrl+D
[11:53] <damian_> ramin: 1 year, been using linux for 5
[11:53] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, that just doesnt make any sense to me - is your kernel a non-standard kernel?
[11:53] <ramin> nice
[11:53] <ailean> damian_, i can take a joke, but these chat rooms are supposed to be helpful.
[11:53] <ramin> i just installed linux today
[11:53] <thoreauputic> dibblego: check that - I think "at" understands "midnight" but you might need 12 am
[11:53] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, standard 386 kernel
[11:53] <ramin> so it wouldn't have deleted much
[11:53] <dibblego> thoreauputic, ok cheers
[11:54] <damian_> ramin: one word of warning
[11:54] <damian_> ramin: linux has a steep learning curve
[11:54] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, you need to use the 686 kernel
[11:54] <ramin> yeah
[11:54] <damian_> ramin: so have patience
[11:54] <ramin> okay
[11:54] <ramin> for now, i love it
[11:54] <thoreauputic> dibblego: to see that the job has registered, type atq
[11:54] <Awesome-o2000> I'm assuming a p4 2.4 doesnt have HT
[11:54] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000 happened with the 286 and the 686 kernel
[11:54] <mp3guy> *386
[11:54] <ramin> would that have even deleted my ubuntu?
[11:54] <dibblego> thoreauputic, seems ot be working, thanks
[11:54] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, you need to install the 686 kernel
[11:54] <Herb> are the words "codec" and "plugin" sometimes synonymous?..  I'd like Rhythmbox to play more filetypes than just OGG...
[11:54] <ramin> or just files
[11:55] <thoreauputic> dibblego: to remove it type atrm <job number>
[11:55] <thoreauputic> dibblego: OK :)
[11:55] <damian_> ramin: it would have deleted the entire OS
[11:55] <Awesome-o2000> and then you need to install the linux-restricted-modules package
[11:55] <ramin> shi*
[11:55] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, I had it installed, I always use it, I just tried the 386 today
[11:55] <damian_> ramin: but it would have left your windows partition untouched
[11:55] <damian_> ramin: assuming you have one
[11:55] <ramin> which i dont
[11:55] <Flannel> Herb: sort of, yeah. a codec tells programs how to decode things
[11:55] <siXy> herb: technically no, but that doesnt mean that they arent sometimes used to mean the same thing
[11:56] <PurpleTet> hello, i want to use a teamspeak pugin thats only has an exe file n some dlls, how do i do this?
[11:56] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, thees ees not cool - it sounds like you have some bad sectors on your drive
[11:56] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, so I'll have to replace
[11:56] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, dont replace until verifying
[11:56] <siXy> purpletet why not just download the linux client?
[11:57] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, what can I use to verifiy?
[11:57] <Awesome-o2000> get the manufacturers diagnostic cd
[11:57] <PurpleTet> siXy: i do hav the linix client
[11:57] <PurpleTet> its a plugin that im tryin to use
[11:57] <ramin> he wants the all mighty famous one
[11:57] <PurpleTet> a*
[11:57] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, with the cd (you should be able to download an iso image) you will be able to run a non destructive test on your hard drive, and a complete surface test
[11:58] <Awesome-o2000> although I tell you, I sure wouldnt mind taking a peek through your bios.
[11:58] <siXy> ah. well in that case you would need to run the windows ts2 client using wine and run the plugin from that. a windows plugin will not work with the linux client
[11:58] <ramin> i am surprised that in the education tab, they did not have any stuff about C++
[11:58] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, I'll check the bios next restart, maybe I hit something, what CD does I use to scan?
[11:58] <ramin> only HTML and other stuff
[11:58] <abo> do you know what's the pakage name of Hobbit, to install ? I mean I do sudo apt-get install hobbit  it doesn't work!
[11:58] <PurpleTet> ohk sixy
[11:58] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, you have to go to the samsung website and download it
[11:58] <ramin> VISTA BETA sucks
[11:58] <ramin> tried
[11:59] <ramin> it
[11:59] <Awesome-o2000> and you'll have to find it for yourself
[11:59] <PurpleTet> siXy: this is the plugin that im tryin to run http://www.planetteamspeak.com/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_details/gid,36/Itemid,69/
[11:59] <PurpleTet> you reckon you can walk me throught it?
[11:59] <ramin> can't even detect ur sound card and ethernet
[11:59] <Awesome-o2000> ramin, no fun eye candy like xgl?
[11:59] <ramin> yeah...
[11:59] <Awesome-o2000> :(
[11:59] <ramin> XGL?
[11:59] <Flannel> !offtopic
[11:59] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:59] <ramin> what would that be?
[12:00] <neeo> does anyone know how to change the icons in openoffice.. I c that when using it in kde, it has better looking icons.. how can I get these when using it in gnome?
[12:00] <siXy> "Platform    	Windows 32-Bit" - you will need to run wine to use this plugin
[12:00] <PurpleTet> how do i do that?
[12:00] <PurpleTet> im a noob... forgive me
[12:00] <Awesome-o2000> ramin, http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/ and from what ive heard, ubuntu has Xgl too, but you'll have to do the ubotu thing about it
[12:00] <ramin> okay
[12:00] <epitaf> A little thought.. is ther supposed to happen something when I middle-mousebutton-click on the desktop?
[12:00] <Awesome-o2000> Im not familiar with ubuntu and xgl
[12:01] <fm_> hi
[12:01] <Awesome-o2000> ran nice on gentoo but the 3d rendering is weird, real weird
[12:01] <ramin> yep
[12:01] <siXy> purpletet: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[12:01] <PurpleTet> siXy: can u pm me n spoonfeed me plz :)...i really hav no idea
[12:01] <Awesome-o2000> how do you use uboto?
[12:01] <Awesome-o2000> !xgl
[12:01] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:01] <mrkinder> Oooh, heres one. I've been running 64 bit ubuntu for the short time I've been using linux full stop, and from the literature I'm reading it sounds a hell of a lot easier to use 32 bit and I'm not seeing any benefit from 64 whatsoever, should I just start again with 32 bit or will that not work with my chipset?
[12:01] <Awesome-o2000> there we go!
[12:01] <ramin> guys, does anyone here like learning
[12:02] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, they only have software for windows
[12:02] <fm_> I have a acer laptop, and ACPI seems to work fine : when I unplug my computer the screen brightness is decreased. But I wanna be able to change this brightness myself. So how does the acpi daemon do this?
[12:02] <ramin> learning bittorrent trackers?
[12:02] <Awesome-o2000> mrkinder, should work just fine, and really fast to boot
[12:02] <siXy> that tells you how to get and install wine. then just d/l the win32 ts2 client and fire away
[12:02] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, no iso image???
[12:02] <mp3guy> no
[12:02] <ramin> if u like gamez and appz and moviez, go here
[12:02] <ramin> http://scenereactor.org
[12:03] <mrkinder> Awesome-o2000, and the other argument? Is it worth bothering to persist with 64 bit? Why is it even there? Is it just so uber-geeks can say they have it for the sake of it?
[12:03] <Pinkle_Rose> hello
[12:03] <mrkinder> Coz god knows no bugger supports it
[12:03] <tengil> how do i turn if ipv6 easiest in ubuntu. i read somewhere to add alias net-pf-10 off to modules.conf or modprobe.conf but i dont seem to have those. i tried adding net-pf-10 off to /etc/modules though but i get "ipv6: Unknown parameter `off'" in dmesg
[12:04] <Awesome-o2000> mrkinder, development?
[12:04] <octan> im having problems after a  update.. i use synaptic, but after the update with adept synaptic stoped working, when i try to run it i get this error message:
[12:04] <octan> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:04] <DarkMageZ> octan, you are an xgl or compiz user?
[12:04] <noiesmo> octan, are you running xgl/compiz
[12:04] <Awesome-o2000> mrkinder, from what ive heard its good for very HW intensive stuff, but I'll have to plead ignorance to its benefits in a linux environment other than the crazy, crazy bus speeds
[12:05] <thoreauputic> octan: this looks like a bug - several people have reported the same error
[12:05] <octan> not at the moment, but i got it installed yes
[12:05] <siXy> fm_: iirc its the system bios that does that nothing to do with the os
[12:05] <thoreauputic> octan: I think it's a bug - I 've seen several reports of this
[12:05] <Pinkle_Rose> when i try to start synaptic in terminal i have message that "libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[12:05] <Hagbarddenstore> Hey! Who should I talk with about a new regged channel? Just started #xubuntu-se for Swedes who use Xubuntu...
[12:05] <octan> ok
[12:05] <Awesome-o2000> Hagbarddenstore, #freenode?
[12:05] <Awesome-o2000> oops
[12:05] <DarkMageZ> octan, you have updated the libvte packages from a 3rd party repository, please see #ubuntu-xgl for your particular problem
[12:05] <noiesmo> octan, ok join #ubuntu-xgl and ask dbo for help
[12:05] <Herb> swedebuntu
[12:05] <Awesome-o2000> #freenode ?
[12:06] <Pinkle_Rose> what package from repo add this lib
[12:06] <gmak> swedes who use ubuntu?
[12:06] <Pinkle_Rose> ?
[12:06] <mrkinder> Awesome-o2000 Thanks, just one more thing, I got this system pretty much exclusively to use cinelerra, but its a real ball ache even trying to get it to work, but I'm told its designed with 64-bit in mind. Have you come across this before?
[12:06] <ramin> *ubuntu christian edition. WTF?*
[12:06] <Awesome-o2000> dbo? like from the movie friday?
[12:06] <gmak> come on....
[12:06] <thoreauputic> octan: my expectation would be that tis will be fixed as it seems quite common
[12:06] <Hagbarddenstore> Awesome-o2000:  Hm...
[12:06] <ramin> http://linux.softpedia.com/
[12:06] <fm_> siXy but I saw no option in my bios, it must be os-controllable cuz windows does it
[12:06] <Nookie^> gmak: japp
[12:06] <octan> ok thxz guys
[12:06] <Scottrix> WOO!!! ALT+TAB and compiz working together in harmony :)
[12:06] <Awesome-o2000> mrkinder, I havent used it in a year - but its a pretty nice program. A linux Avid clone, right?
[12:07] <keithhhh> hey anyone have opinions on installing flash for firefox
[12:07] <ramin> yes
[12:07] <ramin> just go to the site
[12:07] <siXy> fm_: my laptop screen dimms when the power is unplugged even if I am just in bios or a basic dos/linux session
[12:07] <mrkinder> Not sure, all I know is its for video editing, and its a hell of a lot cheaper than adobe premiere and can do your dishes and all sorts
[12:07] <thoreauputic> !flashplugi-nonfree
[12:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashplugi-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:07] <Herb> my bandwidth slows when i fush my toilet
[12:07] <thoreauputic> !flashplugin-nonfree
[12:07] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[12:07] <Warbo> Does GRUB automatically make /boot/grub if you install it?
[12:07] <ramin> or download the pllugin
[12:07] <Awesome-o2000> mrkinder, in MY experience, it worked like a CHAMP on 32 bit with a cluster. thats some crazy, crazy stuff and it makes it rather easy.
[12:07] <siXy> more advanced power stuff like cpu scaling ect requires acpi to be working correctly
[12:07] <mrkinder> I'm only just getting used to the idea of not paying for OR pirating software
[12:08] <thoreauputic> Herb: get a bigger pipe ;-)
[12:08] <daniele_> #ubuntu-it
[12:08] <Awesome-o2000> mrkinder, I had a main node w a p4 2.0 and five p4 1.6's
[12:08] <Awesome-o2000> good, good stuff
[12:09] <mrkinder> Awesome-o2000 I'm just running a single machine here, I won't be using it for high-def or anything like that
[12:09] <Awesome-o2000> kept up with the Avid box, just didnt have the crazy capabilities for stuff like avid did, and i dont know what a lot of that is
[12:09] <Awesome-o2000> mrkinder, have you seen the kind of HW that prog calls for anyhow? rendering video is no joke...
[12:10] <ramin> alright, i gotta go, thanks everyone
[12:10] <Warbo> I have just got someone to install grub (as in the package, not grub-install), but they don't have a /boot/grub folder
[12:10] <Awesome-o2000> even the basic stuff isnt exactly lite fare
[12:10] <mrkinder> Awesome-o2000 I was assured that for regular editing it was fine, I did look at the recommended specs and argued with him but he insisted his specs were regular
[12:10] <chronoAZ> Awesome-o2000, what os+software did u use for the cluster?
[12:11] <mrkinder> him being the idiot that talked me into all this in the first place
[12:11] <Awesome-o2000> chronoAZ, when I first tried it out it was on a livecd distro and I can't remember the name
[12:11] <chronoAZ> k
[12:11] <Awesome-o2000> hold on Im thinking
[12:12] <mrkinder> alright, I'm gonna try 32 bit before I get too deep. Thanks again awesome-o, nice name btw
[12:12] <mrkinder> cya around
[12:12] <Awesome-o2000> Im pretty sure I used Centos + openmosix
[12:12] <Awesome-o2000> im not too sure about that
[12:12] <Pensacola> woppa
[12:12] <Pensacola> en het werkt :)
[12:12] <Awesome-o2000> you know I think cinelerra may have had its own clustering tool built in
[12:12] <Awesome-o2000> I was playing with openmosix at the time
[12:13] <Awesome-o2000> this was actually 2 years ago
[12:13] <Awesome-o2000> b/c it was the 2.4 kernel
[12:14] <fyrestrtr> Pensacola: could you please turn that script off, thanks.
[12:14] <Pensacola> jep, it's turned off now
[12:14] <Pensacola> sorry was in wrong channel :)
[12:14] <rixth> Would a 16mb HD cache make a big different over a 8mb one if using it in a RAID fileserver setup?
[12:15] <fyrestrtr> depends on the kind of operations you are using the RAID for.
[12:15] <Herb> comet, is was that the precurser to the falcon?
[12:15] <rixth> fyrestrtr, it's an extra $10, go for it?
[12:15] <Herb> is was that*
[12:15] <fyrestrtr> if for storage, then no. If for redudancy, then no. If for constant read/writes, then yes.
[12:15] <fyrestrtr> rixth: yesh.
[12:16] <Awesome-o2000> rixth, hell yes
[12:16] <flo> hi. my almost fresh 6.06 install froze 2 times, firefox and oo crashed quite often...
[12:16] <Awesome-o2000> flo, you have HW issues.
[12:16] <flo> should i check kernel config maybe?
[12:16] <flo> Awesome-o2000, RAM maybe?
[12:16] <fyrestrtr> if you are doing one-time writes and constant reads, then a cache doesn't make a difference. If you are using it as the storage area for blender rendering, then yes they will help.
[12:16] <Awesome-o2000> flo, not using stock kernel?
[12:16] <Awesome-o2000> flo, sounds like ram - run memtest
[12:17] <flo> stock?
[12:17] <fyrestrtr> he means unmodified.
[12:17] <Awesome-o2000> flo, did you compile your own kernel or did you install an ubuntu one
[12:17] <flo> memtest, can i run it from running system or from CD?
[12:17] <Awesome-o2000> flo, it SHOULD be in your boot menu
[12:17] <flo> Awesome-o2000, the ubuntu one
[12:17] <flo> Awesome-o2000, ah yes. ok
[12:17] <Awesome-o2000> flo, a lot of the time mem errors are also just a bios set up improperly
[12:18] <Awesome-o2000> i have found 9/10 "hardware errors" are just setup errors
[12:18] <flo> what setting do you think of?
[12:18] <siXy> can anyone help me with rndc?
[12:18] <Awesome-o2000> flo, mem timings, cpu timings
[12:19] <siXy> no matter how i set it up i always get a connection refused error
[12:19] <flo> i'll check bios settings if sth seems bad to me.
[12:19] <flo> brb
[12:19] <Awesome-o2000> good luck to flo
[12:19] <Awesome-o2000> I have to attempt some sleep
[12:20] <Sikon> I use a mouse with a laptop, can I disable its touchpad?
[12:20] <siXy> dont really understand why rndc doesnt just work - never had this much trouble with it on anything else
[12:20] <jism> hello
[12:21] <Awesome-o2000> trolling a linux support channel?
[12:21] <jism> im trying to install two packages
[12:21] <Awesome-o2000> cmon now
[12:21] <jism> in ubuntu 5.10
[12:21] <harm_> i cant seem to install pure-fptd the package is removed?
[12:21] <jism> how do i force install them using dpkg
[12:21] <jism> kangacunt@ubuntu:~$ dpkg -i libwxgtk2.5.3-python_2.5.3.2ubuntu4_i386.deb
[12:21] <jism> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[12:21] <jism> kangacunt@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -i libwxgtk2.5.3-python_2.5.3.2ubuntu4_i386.deb
[12:21] <jism> Password:
[12:21] <jism> (Reading database ... 70861 files and directories currently installed.)
[12:21] <jism> Preparing to replace libwxgtk2.5.3-python 2.5.3.2ubuntu4 (using libwxgtk2.5.3-python_2.5.3.2ubuntu4_i386.deb) ...
[12:21] <jism> Unpacking replacement libwxgtk2.5.3-python ...
[12:21] <jism> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libwxgtk2.5.3-python:
[12:22] <jism>  libwxgtk2.5.3-python depends on wxpython; however:
[12:22] <jism>   Package wxpython is not installed.
[12:22] <jism>   Package wxpython2.5.3 which provides wxpython is not configured yet.
[12:22] <Awesome-o2000> what a surprise.
[12:22] <harm_> FLOOD
[12:22] <harm_> i cant seem to install pure-fptd the package is removed?
[12:22] <jism>  libwxgtk2.5.3-python depends on libwxgtk2.5.3 (>= 2.5.3.2ubuntu4); however:
[12:22] <jism>   Package libwxgtk2.5.3 is not installed.
[12:22] <jism> dpkg: error processing libwxgtk2.5.3-python (--install):
[12:22] <jism>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[12:22] <jism> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:22] <jism>  libwxgtk2.5.3-python
[12:22] <jism> would anyone please be able to help me
[12:22] <PyroManiak> Anyone know why my laptop keyboard wont repeat keys (in linux), but an external keyboard will?
[12:22] <harm_> jism stop flooding
[12:22] <jism> harm im not
[12:22] <jism> jesus
[12:22] <jism> have a cry
[12:23] <thoreauputic> jism: that was not only flooding, but serious flooding
[12:23] <harm_> i cant seem to install pure-fptd the package is removed?
[12:23] <keithhhh> Hey was VLC taken out of ubuntu from version 5.10 to 6.06??
[12:23] <thoreauputic> jism: use a pastebin next time
[12:24] <jism> ok I shall
[12:25] <jism> any ideas?
[12:25] <jism> kangacunt@ubuntu:~$ dpkg -i libwxgtk2.5.3-python_2.5.3.2ubuntu4_i386.deb
[12:25] <jism> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[12:25] <jism> kangacunt@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -i libwxgtk2.5.3-python_2.5.3.2ubuntu4_i386.deb
[12:25] <jism> Password:
[12:25] <jism> (Reading database ... 70861 files and directories currently installed.)
[12:25] <jism> Preparing to replace libwxgtk2.5.3-python 2.5.3.2ubuntu4 (using libwxgtk2.5.3-python_2.5.3.2ubuntu4_i386.deb) ...
[12:26] <jism> Unpacking replacement libwxgtk2.5.3-python ...
[12:26] <jism> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libwxgtk2.5.3-python:
[12:26] <jism>  libwxgtk2.5.3-python depends on wxpython; however:
[12:26] <jism>   Package wxpython is not installed.
[12:26] <jism>   Package wxpython2.5.3 which provides wxpython is not configured yet.
[12:26] <jism>  libwxgtk2.5.3-python depends on libwxgtk2.5.3 (>= 2.5.3.2ubuntu4); however:
[12:26] <jism>   Package libwxgtk2.5.3 is not installed.
[12:26] <jism> dpkg: error processing libwxgtk2.5.3-python (--install):
[12:26] <jism>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[12:26] <jism> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:26] <jism>  libwxgtk2.5.3-python
[12:26] <siXy> can someone kick this idiot?
[12:26] <KenSentMe> I'm trying to upload my photo's to an online photoprint service called Kruidvat.nl using Firefox. The site uses a Java applet to manage the photos. When i try to upload the pictures i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21068 . Is that a problem on my side or is it a problem of the site?
[12:27] <[UNLY] mrp> anyone can help me with installing ubuntu on a single hard drive? I downloaded the iso and installed it on a hard drive but its not there when i take the cd out.
[12:27] <snakehit> its die hard to install airsnort :P
[12:28] <siXy> kensentme: it may be one of those sites that just doesnt work properly in firefox
[12:28] <ketsugi> Any Kubuntu users around? I have a question about Katapult and there's hardly anyone in the #katapult channel
[12:28] <snakehit> [UNLY] mrp,  you burned the iso?
[12:28] <[UNLY] mrp> yes its on cd
[12:28] <snakehit> you can boot of it?
[12:28] <[UNLY] mrp> yes
[12:29] <snakehit> then you see the install icon
[12:29] <[UNLY] mrp> yes.
[12:29] <KenSentMe> Heeft iemand van jullie ooit de online printservice van het Kruidvat gebruikt vanuit Ubuntu? Ik krijg deze error als de Java-applet mn foto's probeert te uploaden: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21068
[12:29] <snakehit> KenSentMe,  ja
[12:29] <KenSentMe> Sorry, wrong channel
[12:29] <snakehit> ge moet uw Java updaten
[12:29] <KenSentMe> snakehit: thanx
[12:29] <nightattack> hello, i'm trying to install kubuntu-desktop but when i try to install the package it gives me an error about language-selector-qt, can anyone help me :P
[12:30] <snakehit> You have NL ubutnu too KenSentMe ?
[12:30] <KenSentMe> snakehit: yes, please join ubuntu-nl so we can talk dutch, ok?
[12:30] <alek> hi
[12:30] <alek> why I must download package ubuntu-desktop, when I want to upgrade ubuntu from CD ?
[12:31] <[UNLY] mrp> ?
[12:32] <chronoAZ> what files do i need to change to change the hostname?
[12:32] <kashual> lo dude 2 all
[12:33] <harm_> i cant seem to install pure-fptd the package is removed?
[12:33] <harm_> i cant seem to install pure-fptd the package is removed?
[12:33] <chronoAZ> because im getting : sudo unable to lookup server via gethostbyname() when i try to run $ sudo <cmd>
[12:33] <bbrazil> chronoAZ: check /etc/hosts
[12:35] <chronoAZ> bbrazil, ah thanks alot
[12:36] <siXy> has anyone here managed to get rndc working on ubuntu server?
[12:38] <mus0> how can I reboot ethernet?
[12:38] <jatt> mus0: ifdown
[12:38] <mus0> or all network connections?
[12:39] <siXy> ifdown eth0
[12:39] <mus0> jatt, ifdown and then ifup?
[12:39] <jatt> mus0: /etc/init.d/networking stop
[12:39] <jatt> mus0: you could try /etc/init.d/networking restart better
[12:40] <jatt> mus0: they use ifup/ufdown internally
[12:40] <siXy> mus0 - yes ifdown eth0 then ifup eth0
[12:40] <mus0> ah, the restart seeems to be working out. thanks jatt and siXy
[12:40] <Herb> 379 commands
[12:41] <nightattack> hello, i'm trying to install kubuntu-desktop but when i try to install the package it gives me an error about language-selector-qt, can anyone help me :P
[12:42] <chops-> is there anyway to get the pass if u can't workout the su pass ?
[12:44] <redguy> chops-, what are you trying to do?
[12:45] <chops-> well trying to access my superuser
[12:45] <chops-> but for some reason its not the same pass as my admin user
[12:46] <chops-> i was thinking of booting up in the recovery root prompt and reset the pass but i dont know the command
[12:46] <Rookie-> sudo su- <usepwd> - gets you root privi.
[12:47] <redguy> chops-, su wants the root user password
[12:47] <redguy> chops-, which is disabled by default, use sudo -i to get root access
[12:47] <chops-> ohh ok
[12:47] <Rookie-> but of some reason ppl think that su means superuser - it means Switch User
[12:47] <chops-> let me try
[12:47] <m0> hi I am trying to install a Theme
[12:48] <m0> And it says in the INSTALL file that Choose the window decoratos
[12:48] <Rookie-> root - superuser and last user ...
[12:48] <m0> 1.Choose the controls LiNsta2
[12:48] <m0> 2.Choose the window decoratos LiNsta2
[12:48] <m0> I did #1, but how do we do #2 ?
[12:49] <thoreauputic> m0: look at the details tab in the theme dialogue
[12:49] <Rookie-> no idea ... i dont use GUI
[12:49] <zim_> does any one know if there is any plans to add ifolder server to any of the repository's
[12:49] <zim_> if not why
[12:49] <m0> thoreauputic: I clicked on Theme Details
[12:49] <redguy> zim_, ifolder as in novell ifolder?
[12:50] <[sharma] > whats the ubuntu equivalent to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth ?
[12:50] <m0> I only see Controls, Icons tab
[12:50] <thoreauputic> m0: there should be a window border and an icon tab there
[12:50] <redguy> [sharma] , /etc/network/interfaces
[12:50] <realist> [sharma] : /etc/network/
[12:50] <[sharma] > thx
[12:50] <zim_> yup but it is now open source bit like sun open office
[12:50] <m0> thoreauputic: All I see is Controls, Icons tabs
[12:50] <_2L8> my ubuntu just starts with a black screen, tty1-6 work anyone has an idea?
[12:50] <redguy> zim_, oh, didn't know
[12:51] <zim_> look Vkewl
[12:51] <chops-> ok sudo -i worked
[12:51] <thoreauputic> m0: odd. I have the three I described ( this is in gnome on 6.06 )
[12:51] <chops-> into the root now
[12:51] <m0> thoreauputic: same here I got latest ubuntu build
[12:51] <zim_> cant wait to apt-get ifolder server
[12:51] <m0> thoreauputic: I wonder why I dono't have the window tab :S
[12:51] <m0> thoreauputic: problem after problem
[12:51] <thoreauputic> m0: does the window border tab show on other themes?
[12:52] <redguy> zim_, did you consider packaging it yourself?
[12:52] <m0> thoreauputic: no
[12:52] <zim_> yes tried but not a uber geek so ****** it up
[12:52] <thoreauputic> m0: hmm - dunno then - sounds like the theme function is broken for some reason
[12:53] <m0> thoreauputic: :s I don't know how to fix it
[12:53] <thoreauputic> hang on a second
[12:53] <zim_> that why i love ubuntu (apt-get install *) just works
[12:53] <redguy> zim_, if not consider adding it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates
[12:53] <zim_> ty did not know about that
[12:53] <zim_> will do
[12:54] <thoreauputic> m0: try  sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-control-center
[12:54] <redguy> zim_, you might also want to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New
[12:54] <zim_> will do
[12:54] <m0> thoreauputic: okay
[12:55] <thoreauputic> m0: that appears to be the package that contains gnome-theme-manager
[12:55] <m0> okay done
[12:55] <thoreauputic> m0: you might need to logout/login
[12:55] <m0> okay
[12:55] <m0> brb :)
[12:56] <Kyja> Hello all :)
[12:56] <y0shi> for some reason my Sans font is gone.. can someone send it to me?
[12:56] <y0shi> I can't find anywhere to download it.
[12:57] <Warbo> trying to install GRUB on /dev/sda isn't working
[12:57] <Warbo> says couldn't find a device for /boot
[12:58] <Kyja> Why would firefox and chatzilla quit qithout warning? they crash and the entire threads disapear. this has happened many times.
[12:58] <KenSentMe> Kyja: have you tried running ff from console to see if there's any error there?
[12:59] <Kyja> good idea. very very good idea.
[12:59] <Kyja> bbs
[12:59] <KenSentMe> bbs?
[01:01] <FirstStrike> KenSentMe: bbs = be back soon
[01:02] <KenSentMe> FirstStrike: ah, knew what brb meant, but didn't know bbs
[01:02] <Acke> hey anyone tried to connect a wifi card in linux with a wifi card running windows?
[01:02] <y0shi> can anyone help me with the Sans?
[01:02] <y0shi> can't find the font.:\
[01:04] <FirstStrike> y0shi: google it
[01:04] <y0shi> I tried... can you link me?
[01:04] <PyroManiak> can you killall <app1>,<app2> basically.. one command kill 2 processes?
[01:05] <FirstStrike> there's a lot of different sans-serif fonts..
[01:06] <RamiKassab> hey guys do you have any recommendations for all in one archive utilities? One that can extrac rar files as well. The built it gnome one doesn't do rar
[01:06] <RamiKassab> I downloaded unrar but it's just a company line interface
[01:06] <RamiKassab> company = command
[01:06] <RamiKassab> way off on that one :)
[01:07] <PyroManiak> hmm.... ok... can killall be used on more then one process?
[01:07] <jatt> PyroManiak: yes if they belong to the same process group
[01:08] <RamiKassab> is fileroller a good choice? what is the most popular archive manager?
[01:08] <PyroManiak> jatt: no, these are 2 seperate processes... I was hoping to be able to write killall <app1>,<app2>
[01:08] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: I seem to recall that some people have been able to use file-roller with rar by installing unrar-nonfree from multiverse
[01:08] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: hey nice to see ya again man
[01:08] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: but I don't know as I don't use rar here :)
[01:08] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: is file roller a popular choice?
[01:09] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: it's the default ( built in)
[01:09] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: I normally don't either but I downloaded some torrents that are rared
[01:09] <thoreauputic> for gnome/ ubuntu
[01:09] <thoreauputic> right
[01:09] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: oh so it is already installed, hmm I'll install unrar-nonfree then
[01:09] <FloK> re
[01:09] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: I would try unrar-nonfree ( I think that's the package name)
[01:10] <PurpleTet> ermmm.. i *****up winecfg
[01:10] <thoreauputic> !unrar-nonfree
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unrar-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <thoreauputic> bah
[01:10] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: yeah that's it, I saw it when looking for unrar. If I have that, do I not need unrar anymore?
[01:10] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: no idea, sorry :)
[01:10] <PurpleTet> i need help with wine
[01:10] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: heh no worries, thanks... once again :)
[01:11] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: wtf, when I try to install it it says 'unrar-nonfree has no installation candidate' what the hell does that mean?
[01:12] <thoreauputic> maybe I got the name wrong...
[01:12] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: they have an unrar-free as well
[01:12] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: could that be it?
[01:12] <geser> RamiKassab: the free unrar is now called unrar-free and the non-free is called unrar again
[01:12] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: looks like "unrar" is the non-free version
[01:12] <RamiKassab> geser: so installing just unrar will get file roller to recognize the format?
[01:12] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: what's the free and nonfree mean?
[01:13] <geser> i hope so
[01:13] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: I don't know - have you tried it?
[01:13] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: gonna try it now
[01:13] <eigenlambda> i think it would be fun if the md5sum utility gave you a progress bar
[01:13] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: presumable one of them is patent encumbered or something
[01:13] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: worked :)
[01:13] <RamiKassab> geser: thanks for the clarification
[01:13] <eigenlambda> would help with md5summing 6.7GB files
[01:13] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: ah, good :)
[01:14] <PurpleTet> i cant assign C drive in Wine
[01:14] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: do you know if gaim supports window flashing when a message is received? my windows don't flash like x-chat does when I get an IM in gaim
[01:14] <nox-Hand> p/part
[01:15] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: again I have to say I don't know :)
[01:15] <Warbo> PurpleTet: "export WINE_PREFIX=/wherever/you/want"
[01:15] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: mine makes annoying sounds ;)
[01:15] <PurpleTet> ya i did that
[01:15] <Warbo> oh
[01:15] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: lol I turned sounds off. God I hate those!
[01:15] <PurpleTet> it just resets to something else
[01:16] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: :D
[01:16] <PurpleTet> i add a drive C that points to the folder
[01:16] <PurpleTet> but when i press apply n close it.. then reopen winecdf it just resets to something else
[01:16] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: what does a window do when you send it the "URGENT" hint?
[01:17] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: gaim does have a plugin for notifying you of messages btw
[01:17] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: umm - i rarely use gaim
[01:17] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: they allow you to prepend an * to the window title along with the number of unread messages as well if you wnat
[01:17] <RamiKassab> want
[01:17] <Josbeat> anyone here uses aircrack
[01:17] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: but not flash the window! :(
[01:18] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: my ignorance of gaim is almost total I'm afraid
[01:18] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: what do you use, if I may ask?
[01:18] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: IRC :)
[01:18] <nopcode> IM sux
[01:18] <nopcode> there, you have it
[01:18] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: oh lol obviously, no IM client though eh
[01:18] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: I used to do IM years ago, but I rarely use it these days
[01:19] <Josbeat> hi all
[01:19] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: I see
[01:19] <kashual> http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/55  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< cool installable themes for gnome and kde
[01:19] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: I'm really a bit of a hermit to be honest :)
[01:20] <kashual> need no compile or other just install with theme selector
[01:20] <ajmitch> thoreauputic: so those who've met you in person should be honoured? :)
[01:20] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: :) we all are sometimes... no worries
[01:20] <thoreauputic> ajmitch: not sure about that :)
[01:21] <thoreauputic> ajmitch: were you at UDU by any chance?
[01:21] <nopcode> well IM is the actual isolationaist's choice
[01:21] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: the URGENT hint option worked :)
[01:21] <nopcode> because you can only talk to single persons at a time
[01:21] <thoreauputic> nopcode: true
[01:22] <ajmitch> thoreauputic: of course I was, I remember meeting you
[01:22] <thoreauputic> nopcode: whereas as an op on IRC you can be abused in /msg by hordes of people at once ;-P
[01:22] <jrib> When jhbuild tries to build libXrender, it returns: checking for X... configure: error: Package requirements (x11) were not met:  No package 'x11' found.  Anyone familiar with this?  I have libx11-dev installed and am not sure why it complains
[01:22] <thoreauputic> ajmitch: aha!
[01:23] <nopcode> thoreauputic: then you dont have to join a channel that sounds like free support ;)
[01:23] <nopcode> musnt
[01:23] <sa0> hi all
[01:23] <sa0> someone with asus laptop
[01:23] <sa0> who could help with bluetooth ?
[01:23] <Josbeat> yes, im using a laptop
[01:23] <Josbeat> no bluetooth yes
[01:24] <Josbeat> sorry
[01:24] <sa0> np
[01:24] <sa0> someone else ?
[01:25] <tuxedo0304> hi, searching for some help with sound with flash in firefox. It worked fine with the previous kernel, but doesn't since the last dapper kernel upgrade
[01:25] <sa0> which kernel tuxedo0304 ?
[01:25] <tuxedo0304> well, the latest dapper, let me see
[01:26] <jrib> !flash > tuxedo0304
[01:26] <sa0> 2.6.15-26-386 ?
[01:26] <sa0> !bluetooth
[01:26] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[01:27] <lkz> Hi, how do I copy directories recursively but ignore hidden files/directories (starting with a dot) ?
[01:27] <tuxedo0304> ok it's 2.6.15-26 it worked fine with 2.6.15-23
[01:28] <kashual> http://download.freshmeat.net/[..] nther-gtk/panther-gtk-default-0.3.tar.gz   <<<<< lets your gnome desktop view in mac os x style ...
[01:28] <tuxedo0304> flash version is 7.0 r63 from macromedia
[01:29] <linux_user400354> i need grub help please. i lost grub from installing windows.
[01:29] <tuxedo0304> yes, 2.6.15-26-386
[01:29] <linux_user400354> !grub
[01:29] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:30] <nutshell42> lkz: cp -r olddir/* newdir/
[01:31] <ailean> jrib, did that screen output help fix the synaptic bug yesterday?
[01:31] <lkz> nutshell42, there are subdirectories in olddir which also contain hidden files :)
[01:31] <shiv> !projector
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about projector - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <shiv> !lcd
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <shiv> !vga
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vga - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <ailean> shiv, /msg ubotu
[01:31] <jrib> ailean: yes thanks, it turns out it was from the compiz repos
[01:32] <shiv> :)
[01:32] <ailean> jrib, ahhh :$
[01:32] <nutshell42> lkz: ... =P
[01:32] <ailean> jrib, well that explains it for me too :)
[01:32] <shiv> I love you guys here
[01:32] <shiv> :0
[01:32] <shiv> I was a religious ubuntu user for 6 months
[01:32] <nutshell42> lkz: you could write a shell script
[01:32] <shiv> tried PCLOS it is great but the people there are assholes
[01:33] <shiv> I am back to ubuntu
[01:33] <lkz> nutshell42, trying to avoid that, but after searching the net for ages, it seems to be the only option
[01:33] <shiv> the best distro of the century
[01:33] <nutshell42> "grub-install /dev/hdaX where X is your Ubuntu root install" shouldn't that be "grub-install /dev/hdx where x is the first entry in your boot order"?
[01:33] <PurpleTet> i cant assign C drive in Wine
[01:34] <ailean> PurpleTet, not through winecfg?
[01:34] <nutshell42> lkz: why exactly don't you want the .files copied?
[01:34] <Warbo> nutshell42: Know much about grub-install? I am having problems with it
[01:34] <PurpleTet> ailean: nop not through winecfg
[01:34] <PurpleTet> it just wont let me
[01:34] <ailean> PurpleTet, seems to allow me
[01:34] <ailean> PurpleTet, try running it with sudo
[01:35] <nutshell42> Warbo: not really, but I think the last time I needed it it wanted the disk and not the partition as argument =)
[01:35] <nutshell42> Warbo: what's your problem?
[01:35] <PurpleTet> ailean: i did something stupid wit it
[01:35] <simplydazed> Is the linux-686-smp kernel fine for Intel Core Duo processor's?
[01:35] <PurpleTet> i reassigned the c to some other folder
[01:35] <EffEffEss> simplydazed: yes
[01:35] <ailean> PurpleTet, oh right - try #winehq
[01:35] <PurpleTet> ohk
[01:35] <ailean> :)
[01:35] <PurpleTet> on this server?
[01:36] <ailean> aye
[01:36] <simplydazed> EffEffEss: thanks
[01:36] <ailean> yes, i mean
[01:36] <PurpleTet> kool
[01:36] <PurpleTet> thx
[01:36] <ailean> np
[01:36] <Warbo> nutshell42: Trying to help someone install GRUB to a USB drive. So far we've debootstrapped a system, chrooted to it and now all that remains is GRUB
[01:37] <lkz> nutshell42, because they are .svn and I need to copy everything else but them, checkout release is not an option
[01:38] <nopcode> hey, where do i get the executable grub-set-default?
[01:38] <nopcode> i've got ubuntu 5.04
[01:38] <nutshell42> Warbo: honestly, I've not much experience with usb-drives and not enough with grub to tell you what to do; if you run into a specific problem and can tell me, I can try to help you, but atm I can only recommend that you search on gentoo.org and after that on google for a solution =)
[01:39] <Warbo> I am already in #grub :(
[01:40] <nutshell42> lkz: I just think it should be easier to copy everything and delete the hidden files afterwards =)
[01:45] <afief> How can i view the boot log?
[01:45] <linux_user400354> !log
[01:45] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[01:46] <afief> linux_user400354: boot log, not irc log
[01:46] <DevGet> how to block an ip from connecting to a server?
[01:46] <linux_user400354> afief: man bootlogd
[01:46] <tom12519> Does anybody know how I can tunnel my current X session over VNC?
[01:46] <realist> How do I change my WikiName at wiki.ubuntu.com?
[01:46] <linux_user400354> yes i know
[01:47] <iNiku> DevGet: man iptables
[01:47] <linux_user400354> tom12519: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH?highlight=%28ssh%29%7C%28vnc%29
[01:47] <afief> linux_user400354:bootlogd records the boot log, but i have no idea where
[01:48] <tom12519> linux_user400354, thanks
[01:48] <linux_user400354> afief: you should read the man pages to find out where
[01:48] <linux_user400354> afief: somewhere in /var/log i am sure
[01:49] <HeathenDan> is there a gui way of creating password-protected rar file?
[01:49] <iNiku> tom12519: that will not let you access your current desktop remotely, though
[01:49] <iNiku> tom12519: you need x11vnc for that
[01:49] <rizo> hi
[01:50] <sa0> please someone ... i'm trying to apply a patch for asus acpi support but the file acpi_asus.h is not in linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 !!!
[01:50] <rizo> I need some help in opening ports in ubuntu breezy
[01:50] <rizo> i have firewall installed firestarter
[01:50] <rizo> how do i do this
[01:50] <sa0> acpi_asus.c sorry
[01:51] <linux_user400354> rizo: firestarter is not a firewall. it configures the linux firewall, iptables in an user friendly gui way.
[01:51] <iNiku> sa0: that sounds like you'll need to compile your own kernel. you need the kernel source package for that
[01:51] <ompaul> mistraal, sent u a pm :)
[01:51] <rizo> yes i know sorry
[01:51] <iNiku> sa0: you also need a fair bit of knowledge
[01:52] <rizo> but it doesn't have no feature to ope ports
[01:52] <linux_user400354> why not use a vanilla kernel unmodified from linus and friends
[01:52] <rizo> open*
[01:52] <sa0> iNiku, np for knowledge ... but where to find that specific package you're telling about
[01:52] <iNiku> sa0: the problem is you cannot patch the kernel without compiling your own
[01:52] <rizo> anyone?
[01:52] <sa0> ok i will so
[01:52] <DanaG> Oh hey, now that I have Edgy, I can edit the kernel config to get what I want, without breaking restricted-modules.
[01:53] <sa0> but no pb on ubuntu ?
[01:53] <iNiku> sa0: make sure you know what you're getting into, first
[01:53] <iNiku> sa0: but the kernel source package is called linux-source
[01:53] <DanaG> Things compiled 686 can work with pentiumm kernel, right?
[01:53] <mistraal> since synaptic broke yesterday and the temp fix, I no longer can use my Alt Gr key on my spanish keyboard. Anyone else experienced that?
[01:54] <giladg> Hi all, can someone please help me configure a 5 button mouse on ubuntu?
[01:54] <rizo> never mind i found it
[01:54] <iNiku> sa0: what's pb?
[01:55] <zim_> redguy you still here
[01:55] <sa0> iNiku, no bluetooth support cause wrong acpi support
[01:55] <DanaG> 5-button mouse?
[01:55] <DanaG> What model?
[01:55] <iNiku> sa0: um... I'm not following
[01:55] <zim_> guess not after looking at the list
[01:56] <giladg> MS Intellimouse Explorer
[01:56] <sa0> my laptop (asus w5a)
[01:56] <giladg> (USB)
[01:56] <DanaG> aah, it shouldn't be too hard.
[01:56] <DanaG> I have an MX700, and what I ended up doing was to use evdev.
[01:57] <sa0> but acpi included atm is for M2E model !
[01:57] <sa0> iNiku,  ?
[01:57] <iNiku> sa0: okay, and there's a kernel patch that is known to fix it?
[01:57] <zim_> can anyone help me i have requested Ifolder Server on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates is there anything more i have to do or can anyone tell me of any planes to add it to any repositories
[01:57] <giladg> DanaG, could you please explain what's evdev?
[01:58] <DanaG> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mouse_Nav_Buttons
[01:58] <sa0> iNiku, yep
[01:58] <DanaG> Ignore all this "emerge" stuff -- Ubuntu already has the evdev driver.
[01:58] <sa0> iNiku, http://www.sk-tech.net/support/asus_w5a.html
[01:58] <giladg> thanx for the wiki link
[01:58] <iNiku> sa0: then you'll need to get the kernel source package, extract it, patch it and find out how to configure and compile the source into a proper ubuntu kernel
[01:58] <giladg> just to make sure, ubuntu uses Xorg?
[01:59] <chops-> how do i install the make command
[01:59] <DanaG> Lemme dig up a better how-to.
[01:59] <iNiku> sa0: the wiki probably has something on that. I haven't compiled any ubuntu kernels so I wouldn't know
[01:59] <thoreauputic> chol: install build-essential
[01:59] <chops-> ok thx
[01:59] <DanaG> http://gentoo-wiki.com/Talk:HOWTO_Advanced_Mouse
[01:59] <thoreauputic> chops-: sorry that was for you
[01:59] <sa0> ok thx however iNiku
[01:59] <zim_> has anyone in here got iFolder Server to work on ubuntu
[01:59] <chops-> yeah i understood
[01:59] <thoreauputic> :)
[01:59] <iNiku> sa0: apt-get install linux-source should get you started
[01:59] <DanaG> There's a way to specify a mouse by name in xorg.conf.
[01:59] <sa0> i'm on it
[02:00] <silverpower> Is there a way to force a package to install? I'm 100% sure that the dependency in question is met.
[02:00] <iNiku> sa0: also... it's possible that the patch won't apply cleanly to the ubuntu kernel sources
[02:00] <sa0> ok
[02:00] <iNiku> in which case you may want to try a vanilla kernel source, but that may cause all kinds of other problems if it ends up being too different from the ubuntu ones
[02:01] <DanaG> I'll look at my own xorg.conf.
[02:01] <iNiku> but again, someone else probably knows more about this... I've never compiled a kernel for an ubuntu box
[02:01] <chops-> thoreauputic what dir to i do the install build-ess from ?
[02:01] <DanaG> Do "cat /proc/bus/input/devices"
[02:01] <thoreauputic> chops-: doesn't matter
[02:01] <chops-> i got some error
[02:01] <zim_> has anyone here looked at iFolders IMO this is one of the kewlist OS projects at the mo http://www.ifolder.com/index.php/Main_Page
[02:01] <thoreauputic> chops-:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:01] <adarof> hi #
[02:01] <DanaG>     Identifier     "Logitech Mouse"
[02:01] <DanaG>     Driver         "evdev"
[02:01] <DanaG>     Option         "SendCoreEvents" "true"
[02:01] <DanaG>     Option         "Name" "Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse"
[02:02] <chops-> missing destitantion file operand after build-essential
[02:02] <thoreauputic> chops-: huh?
[02:02] <chops-> arhh ok let me try it
[02:02] <giladg> DanaG, i put this under InputDevice?
[02:03] <DanaG> Well, don't copy it verbatim -- change a copy of the existing "configured mouse" (# comment out the original) to match.
[02:03] <DanaG> You have to find out the specific ID of your device.
[02:03] <thoreauputic> chops-:  sudo apt-get install apt-howto && apt-howto   ;-)
[02:03] <DanaG> cat /proc/bus/input/devices
[02:04] <DanaG> In a console.  It may need sudo
[02:05] <giladg> yeah, ok... i got that since, my mouse isn't logitech ;)
[02:05] <HeathenDan> can i play wormux against an ai opponent?
[02:06] <giladg> under Identifier, i give it whatever name i want to?
[02:07] <DanaG> Yeah, but it also has to be referred to by the same name in ServerLayout.
[02:07] <DanaG> By default, I believe the buttons should be correct.
[02:07] <giladg> OK, will do... thanx
[02:07] <DanaG> 6 and 7 are thumb buttons.  Some apps take them as horizontal scroll, others as forward and back.
[02:08] <Kezzer> Christ Ubuntu is easy to install now ;o
[02:08] <Kezzer> I just installed it on this machine last night using the latest ISO - liveCD installation, very clever :] 
[02:09] <thoreauputic> Kezzer: yeah, they should change the slogan to "Linux for primates" ;-P
[02:09] <DanaG> I wish BIOSes supported booting from ISO files.
[02:10] <auxi> Kezzer, I hated the installation, it kept screwing :(
[02:10] <silverpower> Okay, if I can't force the package to install, can I at least make a dummy package to get apt-get to shut up about already-resolved dependencies?
[02:10] <Kezzer> auxi: mine was fine
[02:11] <Kezzer> It went very slow, but other than that it went absolutely perfect
[02:11] <auxi> Kezzer, What was on your H/D before you installed it ?
[02:11] <Kezzer> root, boot, swap, windows, two more partitions for windows and an ext3 partition
[02:11] <auxi> Kezzer, Hm... I was installing off an official CD, and it kept messing at partitioning
[02:11] <Kezzer> I just told the installer to wipe everything ;)
[02:11] <giladg> do i need to get rid of all of the other options (ZAxisMapping, Emulate3Buttons, etc.)?
[02:12] <Kezzer> auxi: depends what option you chose I guess
[02:12] <Kezzer> I wonder whether the correct ATi drivers are installed then? Not sure how it all works now
[02:12] <DanaG> Oh, just copy the existing config and comment it out.
[02:12] <Kezzer> I'm not exactly good with Linux
[02:12] <DanaG> evdev doesn't need zaxismapping.
[02:13] <giladg> what about "Device" and "Protocol"?
[02:13] <DanaG> Evdev lets you get by with just Driver and Option "Name"
[02:13] <linux_user400354> !ati
[02:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:14] <DanaG> Though you need to make it either CorePointer or SendCoreEvents.
[02:17] <giladg> ok got it, now while trying to save, it says permission denied.. how do i apply the changes?
[02:19] <DanaG> Oh, you can copy the whole file to the clipboard, then run "gksu gedit"
[02:19] <DanaG> and then select all and paste, then save.
[02:21] <DanaG> And in the future, do the initial editing in gksu gedit.
[02:21] <giladg> under root?
[02:22] <linux_user400354> thats the command for running gedit as root
[02:22] <Flamekebab> is anyone available to help me unb0rk dpkg?
[02:22] <Flamekebab> I managed to get most of the way through doing a net install of Breezy
[02:22] <Flamekebab> then it threw an error
[02:23] <Flamekebab> I did my best to fix it, but dpkg is still refusing to work properly
[02:23] <Flamekebab> it will install things, but has issues finishing all the jobs I give it
[02:23] <Flamekebab> it says as follows:
[02:24] <mirzapirza> does ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso run as a live cd? i remember my friend getting the cds sent to him and i tried the ppc on my ibook - live cd. but if ubuntu runs live, what's the point of gnoppix?
[02:24] <Flamekebab> "dpkg: ../src/packages.c:191: process_queue:Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[02:24] <Flamekebab> and then it exits unexpectedly
[02:25] <Flamekebab> mirzapirza, how do you mean, what's the point?
[02:25] <mirzapirza> i need a simple live cd to recover some files from a windows xp that won't boot.. so easily mounting ntfs drives and burning cds or ethernetting to my ibook would be nice. go with ubuntu?
[02:26] <mirzapirza> live cd as in, does it run off the cd, without having to install it?
[02:26] <SillyZ> gmornin
[02:26] <giladg> thanx, using gksu gedit did the trick. do i need to reboot?
[02:26] <Flamekebab> mirzapirza, as I understand it, 6.06 install CDs have basic liveCD functionality
[02:26] <SillyZ> Flamekebab, it does
[02:26] <mirzapirza> okay, good to know
[02:27] <SillyZ> Im running 6.06.1 as we speak
[02:27] <Flamekebab> although you could probably use synaptic to temporarily install a CD burning app
[02:27] <SillyZ> gives you an icon the click on on the desktop to 'install'
[02:27] <CrazyDoode> anybody try the ATI x1300 or x1600 yet?
[02:27] <mirzapirza> but that makes me curious then, what's the point of gnoppix?
[02:27] <Flamekebab> SillyZ, perhaps you could help me with my problem
[02:27] <SillyZ> Ill give it a try ... whats the q ?
[02:27] <snoops> yeah chucking in dapper desktop edition will let you do what you want mirzapirza.. either burning to cd (less likely but maybe) but definitely should be able to send over network
[02:27] <DanaG> Oh, no reboot is needed.
[02:28] <mirzapirza> sweet
[02:28] <DanaG> You just have to hit ctrl-alt-backspace to restart -- preferably after logging out of Gnome to save your session.
[02:28] <Direc> hi!
[02:28] <Flamekebab> Well I've a nice little Toshiba 3490CT with a USB floppy drive, no CD drive and I can't boot from USB
[02:28] <waspius> hi has anyone used kleansweep???
[02:28] <waspius> cause i dont know how safe it is to remove stuff
[02:28] <Flamekebab> so I attempted an install using Breezy Netinstall floppies
[02:28] <SillyZ> Flamekebab join #sillyz, well chat over there
[02:28] <Flamekebab> which worked mostly, but threw errors late in the process
[02:28] <giladg> ok, thanx
[02:28] <Flamekebab> okays
[02:29] <Direc> Does anyone have a SIP account, Ekiga and a webcam? I would like to test it...
[02:30] <Toma-> Direc: try the ekiga.net mirror
[02:30] <Toma-> Direc: i think its sip:500@ekiga.net
[02:30] <spark33> Distrowatch
[02:30] <Direc> Toma-: Tried that already :)
[02:30] <Toma-> Direc: does it work?
[02:30] <exs_> Hello. I'm having some difficulty using azureus. Everything seems to work fine, but I am unable to close tabs on it, for example if I open options, I then have that window perminently open as a tab, there's no X on the tab.
[02:31] <Direc> Toma-: Yes, but I'd just like test it "IRL" :)
[02:31] <Toma-> ahh right
[02:31] <Toma-> ill pop up my ekiga. its down stairs thol so whats your account?
[02:31] <Fenster> hey guys.. anyone suggest a good mp3 player for gnome?
[02:32] <Toma-> Fenster: xmms
[02:32] <Awesome-o2000> Fenster, xmms
[02:32] <Awesome-o2000> woohoo
[02:32] <Fenster> thx
[02:32] <virogenesis> bmpx
[02:32] <virogenesis> :)
[02:32] <silverpower> audacious.
[02:32] <Toma-> bmpx > xmms
[02:32] <phos> hey, ive got a problem with synaptic
[02:32] <phos> it wont open
[02:32] <virogenesis> bmpx is ace :)
[02:32] <void^> exs_: unless you've enabled the option to hide the close buttons it's probably one of the various bugs in ubuntu's azureus/swt packages, your best option is to use a package from azureus.sf.net and http://azureus.sourceforge.net/index_CVS.php
[02:33] <Toma-> phos: have you run it in a terminal yet to see what the error is?
[02:33] <nopcode> anyone with some grub-experience? "savedefault 0" doesnt work in a grub boot entry
[02:33] <HeathenDan> totem!
[02:33] <silverpower> BMPx has a slight problem - it uses GStreamer.
[02:33] <nopcode> on ubuntu 5.04
[02:33] <Fenster> hrmmz.. xxms is a winamp clone :\
[02:33] <phos> gives the error : error loading shared library libvte.so.4; no such file
[02:33] <Fenster> im lookin for somethin more like foobar
[02:33] <phos> of course :D
[02:33] <silverpower> Fenster, amarok
[02:33] <silverpower> , then.
[02:33] <virogenesis> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:33] <virogenesis>   <-- alot are getting this problem :)
[02:33] <Toma-> nopcode: you only need savedefault
[02:33] <nopcode> Toma-: i need savedefault 0
[02:33] <silverpower> ...stupid misplaced enter key...
[02:34] <phos> any idea why/
[02:34] <Toma-> nopcode: what are you doing?
[02:34] <nopcode> Toma-: i want entry 1 to set entry 0 as default
[02:34] <virogenesis> silverpower, gstreamer will be good in the future so its got bugs
[02:34] <nopcode> Toma-: to have entry 1 only boot once
[02:34] <amias> hi all
[02:34] <Toma-> oic
[02:35] <silverpower> virogenesis, that's not the problem, the problem is that Audacious has the plugins I actually use. GStreamer does not.
[02:35] <HeathenDan> exs_, Tools > Options > Interface > Display > Use Closeable Tabs
[02:35] <Direc> Oh, private msgs are blocked...
[02:35] <SillyZ> heres an intresting one, during the 6.06.1 install, ive found you have to click on the 'forward' or other button more than once to get it to go.... bug issue?
[02:35] <silverpower> So by extension, neither does BMPx.
[02:35] <Fenster> hey guys.. anyone know of a "find" program to help me find stuff in my file system
[02:35] <Direc> Toma-: direc@ekiga.net
[02:35] <Toma-> Direc: ok, brb
[02:35] <phos> so no idea how to fix synaptic? i take it an update went bad?
[02:35] <amias> anyone had a 'NVIDIA(0): Failed to determine graphics capabilities' error ?  am using dapper with a nvidia Geforce 488 Go
[02:35] <Fenster> some sort of front end
[02:36] <amias> Fenster, find or beagle
[02:36] <zim_> am i missing something why am I the only person who thinks iFolders rock ???
[02:36] <Fenster> thx amias
[02:36] <HeathenDan> beagle won't index my mp3 folder =\
[02:36] <amias> Fenster, or Applications -> Accessories -> Search
[02:37] <Fenster> amias, .. I dont have that for some reason
[02:37] <nalou> sk
[02:37] <nalou> Dou you speak french?
[02:37] <DBO> !fr
[02:37] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:37] <exs_> void^:  thanks a lot.
[02:37] <linux_user400354> sftp is ftp with ssh right?
[02:38] <Toma-> Direc: have you got enough ports open?
[02:38] <mirzapirza> when i use sudo while running as a live cd - what password will it want?
[02:38] <thoreauputic> linux_user400354: more or less
[02:38] <Toma-> it just connected
[02:38] <amias> Linuturk,  yes probably
[02:38] <virogenesis> fair enough good reason but gstreamer is the future :)
[02:38] <DBO> mirzapirza, none, blank
[02:38] <Direc> Toma-: I have a direct connection
[02:38] <SillyZ> how 'stable' is the drive resizing in ubuntu, ive noticed its partitioning tool has this capability any thoughts or opinions bout its capability?
[02:38] <thoreauputic> mirzapirza: none as far as I remember
[02:38] <amias> SillyZ, its stable but you should do a backup first anyway
[02:39] <Toma-> Direc: rightio. can you see my room/hear anything?
[02:39] <SillyZ> have a 100gb drive, 20gb win and the rest for applications and storage, both running ntfs ....
[02:39] <Direc> Toma-: I can hear you, and I see a bouncing Ekiga logo
[02:39] <Fenster> is amarok only for kde?
[02:39] <SillyZ> would like to drop a swap and a root partition b/t the 20 and the rest of the drive
[02:39] <Toma-> hmmm ok. i cant hear you. and i et the ekiga icon too
[02:39] <DanaG> Is there a good Amarok-equivalent for Gnome?
[02:39] <thoreauputic> Fenster: no, works fine in gnome
[02:39] <Toma-> brb
[02:39] <Fenster> ok
[02:39] <virogenesis> yes but can run it in gnome but why bother when bmpx exists
[02:40] <DanaG> Amarok is essentially the ONLY qt.KDE aoo I use.
[02:40] <thoreauputic> Fenster: just looks different ( qt not gtk2)
[02:40] <Fenster> virogenesis, I want a foobar clone
[02:40] <DanaG> Does BMPx have the media library (folder views, not by tags)?
[02:40] <zim_> please some one tell me what I am missing about iFolders that i am the only on who can wait to see a .deb
[02:40] <virogenesis> ahhh
[02:40] <HeathenDan> i won't let linux to write/touch ntfs partitions
[02:40] <Fenster> HeathenDan, Im thinking about converting my ntfs drives... is that a daunting task?
[02:40] <waspius> anyone know an easy firewall to use??or basically an interface for iptables?
[02:40] <anabain> is it possible to use an usb stick to make it a bootable DOS system from ubuntu64? I want to update my motherboard BIOS...
[02:41] <thoreauputic> waspius: firestarter is easy
[02:41] <zim_> waspius look at firestarter
[02:41] <ynef> waspius: I've heard good things about firestarter
[02:41] <ynef> heh :)
[02:41] <zim_> 3 good things about it
[02:41] <thoreauputic> well looks like we have a winner...
[02:41] <zim_> :)
[02:41] <HeathenDan> convert to what? ext2/3? fat?
[02:41] <Fenster> ext3 I guess
[02:41] <waspius> ok thanx allot
[02:41] <DanaG> What is firestarteer?
[02:41] <DanaG> oh, firewall.
[02:41] <Fenster> I am using a ntfs driver now.. and people say it isnt too safe
[02:41] <flaca> God morning evrybody!! Oh my god it rains !
[02:41] <zim_> conf tool for iptables
[02:42] <zim_> it is not a firewall it just makes the conf easy
[02:42] <HeathenDan> is there existing data in those ntfs? if so, back them up. you may have to destroy and reconstruct the partition
[02:42] <virogenesis> nah don't think it does DanaG bmpx uses tags but what it does do is tag correctly so even using tags is alright
[02:42] <linux_user400354> waspius: if you are using gnome, you can use firestarter
[02:42] <nopcode> omg i was thinking its called "breezy beaver" all the time and wondered how many americans would be upset by that :D
[02:42] <nopcode> badger, ok ;P
[02:43] <HeathenDan> the non-win ones
[02:43] <waspius> linux_user400354: i am using kde
[02:43] <zim_> that will be 4 good things and counting
[02:43] <linux_user400354> waspius: there are many good scripts to setup iptables for you
[02:43] <zim_> is there somthing in kcontrol
[02:43] <DanaG> The issue is, all of my media is on NTFS, and not all of it is entirely correctly tagged.
[02:43] <ynef> waspius: and, really, iptables itself isn't too hard either :)
[02:43] <virogenesis> Fenster, http://futurepast.free.fr/aeon1.jpg
[02:43] <zim_> look in "kdesu kcontrol"
[02:44] <virogenesis> have a look at that
[02:44] <Fenster> ya that looks pretty good
[02:44] <zim_> anyway back to my Q
[02:44] <waspius> ynef: how do i setup iptables
[02:44] <waspius> ?
[02:44] <zim_> why am i the only one shouting about iFolders
[02:44] <ynef> waspius: there are good docs at netfilter.org
[02:45] <zim_> am i missing somthing
[02:45] <nopcode> because mac is teh gay? ;P
[02:45] <waspius> ynef: ok thanx
[02:45] <Direc> Toma-: Worked now
[02:45] <virogenesis> that was Aeon :)
[02:45] <Toma-> Direc: hmmm. dumbass router had blocked my ports. and someone unplugged my videocam :|
[02:45] <Toma-> Direc: all is well. :D
[02:45] <ShaggyDog> any one been able to mount a sony vaio built-in memory stick (dapper)?
[02:46] <Direc> Toma-: :D OK, thanks for the test! Works easy enough for even my mom!
[02:46] <zim_> ShaggyDog my friend has tried for days no luck
[02:47] <Toma-> yeh, i set mine up for my mum to see relatives in england
[02:47] <ShaggyDog> thanks, keep trying!
[02:48] <oblib> Question: I submitted a bug, and someone reported the "fix commited." What does that mean, and when will gamecon work in Dapper? See https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/55355
[02:48] <y3it221_klce> whats PNPmode
[02:48] <nopcode> how do i reinstall grub under ubuntu?
[02:49] <nopcode> or will that be done automatically when a dist-upgrade updates grub?
[02:49] <exs_> I'm using standard VESA driver and it's OK, but it's only 1024x768. I'm using laptop so it's not a problem but how do I set it to 1280?.. With mepis I went into a text file.
[02:51] <fyrestrtr> what kind of video card do you have?
[02:51] <Luck> I have Totem installed with win32 codecs thanks easyubuntu. I can play wma files but it dosen't want to play asf files. Does totem support them?
[02:51] <senakay> has anyone else had troubles getting themes to be automatically picked up by drupal on dapper?
[02:51] <Luck> How play asf files without mplayer?
[02:52] <stray_77> luck, as far as i know you can play anything but windows drm files
[02:52] <stray_77> digital rights management
[02:52] <rixth> DOes anyone know the maximum length of a SATA cable?
[02:52] <Fenster> 3 yards
[02:52] <Luck> I have realplayer too. It doesnt support too.
[02:52] <amias> rixth, google does
[02:52] <exs_> How do I edit a file with text editor under root privlages?
[02:53] <senakay> couldn't find any reference in the forums, and /usr/share/doc/drupal/README.Debian.gz was no help :-)
[02:53] <amias> exs_, sudo nano /path/to/file
[02:53] <stray_77> SATA cables are 7 wire 7 pin versus the 80 wire 40 pin parallel ribbons. 1 meter (39inch) max length cables are easy to route in todays tight tower confines.
[02:53] <senakay> exs_: sudo vi file
[02:53] <exs_> thanks man
[02:53] <Luck> stray_77: What does "drm" mean?
[02:53] <stray_77> SATA cables are 7 wire 7 pin versus the 80 wire 40 pin parallel ribbons. 1 meter (39inch) max length cables are easy to route in todays tight tower confines.
[02:53] <stray_77> digital rights management
[02:54] <amias> senakay, vi is cool but for someone who doesn't know sudo nano is probably a better bet
[02:54] <Luck> exs: gksudo gedit file
[02:54] <Fenster> doh.. there is no media player classic for linux
[02:54] <rixth> Erg. Only 1 meter.
[02:54] <virogenesis> digital restriction manaagement
[02:55] <senakay> cmon, someone has to have setup drupal on ubuntu :-)
[02:55] <oblib> Question: I submitted a bug, and someone reported the "fix commited." What does that mean, and when will gamecon work in Dapper? See https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/55355
[02:55] <exs_> amias: senakay, I've tried that and sadly it opens in the Terminal. You see, I need to open the file with text editor so I can quickly 'find and replace'
[02:55] <oblib> exs_: sudo gedit file &
[02:55] <exs_> what's the & mean?
[02:56] <oblib> open it without tying up the terminal
[02:56] <oblib> spawn the process
[02:56] <senakay> 'background'
[02:56] <exs_> oblib:  nevermind, it worked :) thanks!
[02:56] <Fenster> holy shiat
[02:57] <Fenster> amarok is awesome
[02:57] <ompaul> oblib, ask in #ubuntu_bugs for the full process it may make it into the next . release (6.06.2)
[02:57] <scud> my synaptic isnt working
[02:57] <scud> http://pastebin.ca/138692
[02:57] <ompaul> scud, you compiz user you
[02:57] <phos> scud, you running compiz?
[02:57] <oblib> ompaul: no one is there
[02:57] <scud> yes
[02:57] <DBO> scud, yep i know your issue
[02:57] <ompaul> oblib, I am but I am not reading it :)
[02:57] <scud> but its not running at the moment
[02:57] <phos> yeah, it breaks anyway
[02:57] <DBO> scud, we have lots of work to do to fix this
[02:57] <scud> gotcha
[02:58] <DBO> scud, meet me in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:58] <DBO> we will handle it there
[02:58] <scud> ok
[02:58] <silverpower> aaaaaugh! This is truly a sick joke. No matter what I do, I cannot tell it to ignore the accursed dependency. pygame is dependent on a library, but the name of the lib has changed recently. The ABI is the same, so it'd work if I could get the accursed thing to install.
[02:58] <ompaul> DBO, wikise it? cos it looks like lots of folks are about to get that as an issue
[02:58] <DBO> ompaul, unless you can figure out how to get aptitude to give uniform results to everyone...
[02:59] <DanaG> drupal?
[02:59] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[02:59] <oblib> ompaul: so who am I supposed to ask?
[02:59] <senakay> danag: yep
[02:59] <senakay> drupal?
[02:59] <Fenster> anyone recommend a good gui based ftp app for gnome
[02:59] <mrkinder> Hi all. I've just reinstalled ubuntu 32 bit after realising 64 bit wasn't really as much fun as it sounded, but I have to reinstall my ati drivers and I don't have the tutorial page that someone helpfully gave me bookmarked anymore. Anyone know what I mean?
[02:59] <DBO> ompaul, btw, if you see people give the symlink fix in here for this issue, slap them upside the head, ok?
[02:59] <fyrestrtr> !ati
[02:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:00] <mrkinder> ah, thanks muchly
[03:00] <exs_> I'm using text editor in Terminal to edit my xorg.conf file, but I have no idea how to save it. When I look down I see "WriteOut" which I preusme is the correct option, but I don't understand how to use that command. It displays; ^O
[03:00] <ompaul> oblib, you ask and then you wait if someone picks up on it great, this is the way of irc. however have you got  dapper-updates enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[03:00] <Luck> exs:ZZ
[03:00] <Luck> exs_:qw
[03:00] <fyrestrtr> exs_: ^ means ctrl, so ^O mean ctrl+O
[03:01] <oblib> yeah, but no one shows up as being in the room. Well one guy just showed up
[03:01] <fyrestrtr> Luck: he's on pico :P
[03:01] <exs_> fyrestrtr:  ohh thanks
[03:01] <senakay> danag: the dapper package is great, and there are two themes available for dapper, but usually you just drop additional downloaded drupal themes into (drupal home)/themes. I've tried that, /etc/drupal/themes and /usr/local/share/drupal/themes (as per README.Debian.gz) and it still wont work
[03:01] <Luck> soryy
[03:01] <senakay> two pre-packaged themes i mean
[03:01] <senakay> no errors in apache logs, nada.
[03:03] <oblib> ompaul: no I don't have dapper-updates enabled
[03:04] <virogenesis> because they are scsi :)
[03:04] <ompaul> oblib, then you won't get it if it is fixed
[03:04] <ompaul> in dapper
[03:04] <virogenesis> scsi devices have always been pricey
[03:04] <ompaul> oblib, the other updates are purely security
[03:04] <oblib> ompaul: what do I add?
[03:04] <voidy> greetings
[03:05] <voidy> i have just installed ubuntu from a hoary dvd i got ages ago..
[03:05] <voidy> it's because my gentoo has had a slight disaster
[03:05] <voidy> i'm wondering if anying can help me get my kernel compiling
[03:05] <rixth> virogenesis, but what is really different apart from the interface? They are more or less the same internally
[03:05] <ompaul> oblib, paste your sources.list in pastebin paste.ubuntu-nl.org and I'll fix it for you - I will be missing for 10 minutes
[03:05] <voidy> it's complaining about missing definitions from the kernel-headers, but i swear the headers are installed..
[03:06] <rixth> Though some rotate at 10k.
[03:06] <voidy> i also need to know how i can do an apt-get upgrade to the latest versions... at the moment i seem to be limited to hoary stuff.
[03:06] <Noia> Any way to get audio working on Flash properly?
[03:06] <oblib> ompaul: nm, it's here: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted
[03:07] <silverpower> rixth, they're just higher-grade.
[03:07] <Noia> at the moment its only worked once, and that was _during_ a software upgrade =\
[03:07] <ompaul> oblib, remove the # from infront of it
[03:07] <oblib> ompaul: there is no #
[03:07] <voidy> this is my first day of ubuntu.. it's not ideal, but i'm happy to use it if i can get it working to the spec i need..
[03:08] <silverpower> Though I do believe that even with the higher-grade components and the revised controller boards, they're still overcharging.
[03:08] <FirstStrike> void^: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:08] <voidy> the distro isn't so important to me... just getting kernel 2.6.14+ on there is, and all the python/gnome dev libraries i need
[03:08] <voidy> FirstStrike: cool, tanks
[03:09] <FirstStrike> voidy: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:09] <binks_> hi peeps has anyone had any problems with dvdauthor not making good dvd files e the menu i think is broken
[03:09] <BlueEagle> firststrike: wouldn't he need to update his sources.list before running dist-upgrade?
[03:09] <Warbo> I am REALLY REALLY having problems with GRUB. It refuses to install onto a USB drive
[03:09] <FirstStrike> yes, you're right.
[03:10] <FirstStrike> sudo apt-get update
[03:10] <voidy> FirstStrike: that's still all hoary stuff i'm afraid..  what is the latest version?  i just need to add it to apt-sources yes?
[03:10] <FirstStrike> dapper
[03:10] <voidy> righto
[03:10] <Jeeves__> Hello, very new to linux and having some problems installing apache, can anyone help?
[03:11] <BlueEagle> voidy: Should your upgrade fail then you migth want to get the latest install cd 6.06.1 (dapper drake).
[03:11] <silverpower> voidy, do be careful. To get to Dapper, you've got to upgrade to Badger, then upgrade to Dapper. And expect much wailing and gnashing of teeth, if it fails it's going to fail spectacularly in ways that'll make reach for your Gentoo install media.
[03:11] <silverpower> *make you
[03:11] <BlueEagle> voidy: Thing is that you've got breezy between hoary and dapper. Not sure how upgrading hoary->dapper would work. :)
[03:11] <nopcode> silverpower: i've reached for debootstrap
[03:12] <voidy> hehe... i'm on dialup :)  this is going to be painful whatever i do :)
[03:12] <silverpower> !
[03:12] <nopcode> silverpower: got a remote server... i cant see what wrong.
[03:12] <FirstStrike> good luck :>
[03:12] <nopcode> that's really annoying
[03:12] <nopcode> so i rather go to debian
[03:12] <silverpower> Ouch.
[03:12] <Jeeves__> it's ok seams to have sorted itself!
[03:12] <BlueEagle> voidy: If you've got a friend with *dsl then you might want to go there and d/l the latest install cd. :)
[03:12] <nopcode> we're i'm not being force to obey to releases ;P
[03:12] <voidy> maybe i should be content with not being able to develop anything all weekend and then get an iso at work on monday..
[03:13] <Warbo> nopcode: Since there aren't any for ages
[03:13] <silverpower> nopcode, well, voidy is/was a Gentoo user, so...
[03:13] <scud> DBO: thanks man, that worked. you rock
[03:13] <nopcode> Warbo: there's dist-upgrade ;P
[03:13] <voidy> i guess i need to work on making my code windoze compatible too ;)
[03:13] <scud> DBO: should make a wikipage on that
[03:14] <nopcode> voidy: what code?
[03:14] <DBO> scud, i should, but it doesnt work the same for everyone
[03:14] <Warbo> Anybody? GRUB?
[03:14] <y3it221_klce> my Ubuntu installation is slow
[03:14] <voidy> it's a bit like zonealarm.  with netstat too
[03:14] <firepol> hi, can i upgrade an outdated version of breezy directly to dapper? or should i first apt-get upgrade , then modify the sources.list to dappet and then apt-get upgrade again?
[03:14] <bakytn> should i download Kubuntu 6.06.1 or i can just update my 6.06 ?
[03:14] <scud> DBO: i figured :(
[03:14] <nopcode> voidy: personal firewalls are nonsene
[03:14] <nopcode> nonsense
[03:14] <BlueEagle> warbo: are you on the installation cd or have you booted linux?
[03:14] <fyrestrtr> !upgrade > firepol
[03:15] <auxi> nopcode, why do you say that ?
[03:15] <voidy> it has a distributed backend/gui, i'm making it for monitoring dedicated servers at work
[03:15] <BlueEagle> warbo: Is the USB drive correctly detected?
[03:15] <Warbo> BlueEagle: On the live CD, with an installation chrooted
[03:15] <BlueEagle> warbo: How many harddisks have you got on your system?
[03:15] <voidy> I'm not going to comment on that, nop
[03:15] <Warbo> installation is on the USB drive, and was done using debootstrap
[03:15] <Warbo> 1
[03:16] <Warbo> device.map says hd0 is hda and hd1 is sda
[03:16] <BlueEagle> warbo: when you run sudo grub and on the grub platform type 'root (hd' and then hit tab do you see your usb drive listed?
[03:16] <ompaul> oblib, so it is enabled
[03:16] <oblib> ompaul: looks like
[03:16] <silverpower> nopcode, personal firewalls are useful for controlling what your Windows install is and is not allowed to do. I'd rather have a hardware-based firewall, though.
[03:16] <nopcode> ehrm
[03:17] <nopcode> if you dont want anything to listen on a port DONT START THAT SERVICE
[03:17] <nopcode> ...
[03:17] <nopcode> i thought that was simple enough
[03:17] <Warbo> BlueEagle: Expect some time-delay since I am acting as proxy for someone
[03:17] <nopcode> no, we need something at ip-level!
[03:17] <voidy> nopcode: windows doesn't need another personal firewall, however, the gui part is going to work on windows for monitoring dedicated linux servers
[03:17] <nopcode> voidy: yeah i was figuring you'd be doing it for linux
[03:17] <nopcode> but still that personal firewall stuff is bullshit
[03:18] <BlueEagle> nopcode: Please concider that not all people know what a service is and may of them think it's a good idea to click "yes" on anything that looks remotely like a dialog box.
[03:18] <Breg> anyone know how to update the bios of a dell laptop?
[03:18] <voidy> nopcode: that sounds quite naive.  there are other 3500 servers at work, and to configure the ciscos for all theie individual needs would be ridiculous
[03:18] <nopcode> just bind bind a service to the interface if you want to stop people from using it!
[03:18] <voidy> s/other/over/
[03:18] <BlueEagle> warbo: Why isn't that person here him/herself?
[03:18] <Thor> nopcode, what about restricting certain services to certain subnets, woulden't you need a firewall then ?
[03:18] <nopcode> dont bind even
[03:18] <nopcode> Thor: subnets - yeah sure
[03:19] <nopcode> Thor: i was talking about "personal" firewalls for workstations directly connected to the 'net
[03:19] <firepol> thank you fyrestrtr
[03:19] <nopcode> there firewalling makes no sense
[03:19] <Thor> nopcode, Oh, right
[03:19] <Thor> nopcode, my bad
[03:19] <dahump> can anyone help a kubuntu newbie?
[03:20] <voidy> the only zonealarm thing that it relates to is flashing up dialogs when a new connection is attempted to the box. it then allows you to yes or no it, as well as setting up rules pertaining to the connection
[03:20] <Blissex> dahump: no, it is hopeless :-). Unless they ask specific questions :-).
[03:21] <BlueEagle> nopcode: I reserve my right to disagree because a personal firewall that also blocks outbound connections can help limit the functionality of trojan horses that attempts to phone home on ports that are usually not in use and they can restrict a bot herders ability to connect to your system to control such a trojan horse.
[03:21] <dahump> hmmmm, I have so many it's hard to know where to begin.....
[03:21] <abhinay> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20981 Help please !
[03:21] <dahump> Does anyone know why my networked kubuntu box gets much slower connection to internet than my Windows machine?
[03:21] <nopcode> BlueEagle: the trojan horse shouldn't even be on your box
[03:22] <nopcode> BlueEagle: if it is, your security is broken anyways
[03:22] <Warbo> BlueEagle: Good question. Anyway, "root (hd"<tab> just gives prompt with "root (hd" on it, no results
[03:22] <PurpleTet> http://www.thenewsh.com/~newsham/x/art/im_getting_sued.gif
[03:22] <Breg> nobody ever patched the bios of a dell laptop?
[03:22] <voidy> i also have provision in the code for blocking things depending on the process and user that initiated them, as well as detecting DoS and mangling packets
[03:22] <BlueEagle> warbo: chrooted you say? Did you remember to bind-mount /proc to your chrooted system?
[03:23] <Warbo> BlueEagle: Yes, and /dev
[03:23] <voidy> that's not in the stable code though
[03:23] <Warbo> well, first time we tried I bound /proc, this time /proc is mounted directly in there
[03:23] <rixth> PurpleTet, ...huh hahaha
[03:23] <mrkinder> !ati
[03:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:23] <mrkinder> !radeon
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radeon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:23] <rixth> PurpleTet, counter sue for bandwidth costs
[03:23] <brk3> hi, would anyone be kind enough to give their opinion on wheter these types of devices would be supported by linux?: http://search.ebay.ie/usb-sound-adapter_W0QQfromZR40
[03:24] <dahump> Hmmm. could it possibly be my linux NIC driver?
[03:24] <silverpower> BlueEagle, exactly. On a Windows machine, there's no real way to know *what* the current state of a typical workstation is security-wise. If you detect a trojan that way, you can reach for the cable, unplug and nuke the install.
[03:24] <rixth> !msgthebot > mrkinder
[03:24] <brk3> hi, would anyone be kind enough to give their opinion on wheter these types of devices would be supported by linux?: http://search.ebay.ie/usb-sound-adapter_W0QQfromZR40
[03:24] <dahump> Does anyone know why my networked kubuntu box gets much slower connection to internet than my Windows machine?
[03:24] <mrkinder> None of this is the same as last time, before I could just click a few things in the synaptic manager and get ati acceleration, these howtos are way more complicated than that
[03:24] <BlueEagle> warbo: are you sure grub is started with root privileges? (ie. sudo grub)
[03:24] <voidy> brk3: would you be kind enough to wait for at least a minute or two for an answer?
[03:25] <BlueEagle> warbo: If it's not started with root privileges it will not cause an error but it will not list any discs with root (hd{TAB}
[03:25] <dahump> if that was for me, of course I will. Sorry
[03:25] <Warbo> BlueEagle: Yes. The chroot logs in as root by default anyway, but I've tried sudo and no sudo
[03:25] <mrkinder> Does anyone know what I mean? I just want to get the radeon working without manually configuring drivers and breaking things and what not
[03:25] <voidy> ah.. i've just remembered an oldish, and functional gentoo install that i have in a folder on my old root
[03:25] <Warbo> mrkinder: You mean DRI driver "radeon"
[03:25] <Warbo> ?
[03:25] <voidy> i'm afraid my ubuntu partition is a marked man...
[03:26] <BlueEagle> warbo: what does fdisk -l tell you about the disks? Can it find them? (Still in the chroot environment)
[03:26] <voidy> well, it was nice joining the ubuntu crowd for a couple of hours..
[03:26] <voidy> must get back to my coding somehow..
[03:26] <mrkinder> possibly, but I'd have to know what you meant by that. If DRI means "click there, click there, reboot" then yes?
[03:26] <silverpower> voidy, ahahah. :)
[03:26] <voidy> thanks for the help guys .. who knows. i might get an ubuntu disc one of these days :)
[03:26] <voidy> sudo reboot
[03:27] <brk3> voidy: sorry, thought i only asked once? just asked in a few channels to increase my chance of finding someone who know the answer
[03:27] <BlueEagle> voidy: You can have them shipped to you for free
[03:27] <voidy> oops.. swear i pressed all-left then hehe
[03:27] <Killeroid> PurpleTet: lol, thats really hilarious.What a mor*n. I can beleive he actually threatened to sue you
[03:27] <Killeroid> *can't
[03:28] <voidy> BlueEagle: good plan, my friend took them up on the offer quite a while ago now too
[03:28] <mrkinder> Any ideas Warbo?
[03:28] <BlueEagle> warbo: if (since) it cannot find them either you might be missing device nodes. If they are scsi or sata disks I'd not bind-mount /dev but rather copy over /dev/sd* to your chrooted dev/
[03:29] <silverpower> voidy, takes a few weeks, though.
[03:29] <Warbo> fdisk -l works fine
[03:29] <BlueEagle> voidy: It took three weeks to get them from Holland to Norway. :)
[03:29] <BlueEagle> warbo: o'rly?
[03:29] <Warbo> and he doesn't have mIRC installed, so he is not in here
[03:29] <BlueEagle> warbo: irssi should work from the chroot environment
[03:30] <firepol> is it possible to install kububntu.desktop without installing all the dependencies? i want to upgrade from breezy to dapper. but if i upgrade my actual breezy it will be upgraded again, resulting in 2 downloads instead of one
[03:30] <Warbo> GAIM should work from LiveCD environment
[03:30] <waspius> i opened kdiskfree and for some reason i have 3 more dev than what i should..udev,varlock,varrun 220.1mb each..anyone know what they are?
[03:30] <voidy> actually. i'll put it on to my 80g sata
[03:30] <bbrazil> waspius: they're just RAM disks
[03:30] <sleepingcreep> hi all
[03:30] <BlueEagle> warbo: and make sure he types 'root (hd' and then press TAB not 'root(hd' and then press tab. And make sure he doesn't actually type the quotes.
[03:31] <Warbo> yes, I am pretty sure he did
[03:31] <snoops> PurpleTet indeed, that is hilarious.. have you replied?
[03:31] <sleepingcreep> i'v a little problem with flash and firefox... i'v no sound from flash animations
[03:31] <voidy> the only thing debian-like that i'm not fond of is separating runtime and dev libraries...
[03:31] <Warbo> device.map gives hd0 and hd1, but using them as root says filesystem type unknown
[03:31] <voidy> i must prefer having it the way that it'd be if you installed everything from source..
[03:31] <PurpleTet> its not me:P someone else hehehe\
[03:31] <voidy> much*
[03:31] <BlueEagle> warbo: omg
[03:31] <voidy> other than that, debian is cool..
[03:32] <dahump> anyone use amarok in here? It shows that I am receiving a radio stream, but there is no sound. THe sound system works fine. Is there a plugin or something that I need?
[03:32] <BlueEagle> warbo: he shouldn't try to use them as the root system
[03:32] <PurpleTet> http://www.thenewsh.com/~newsham/x/art/barbie/
[03:32] <sleepingcreep> there is someone that can help me?
[03:32] <voidy> much better than rpm based distros
[03:32] <BlueEagle> warbo: All I need to know is how many hd's grub detects.
[03:32] <BlueEagle> warbo: Now how many harddisks has this man got? (Not counting the usb drive ofcourse)
[03:32] <Flamekebab> hmm
[03:32] <Flamekebab> synaptic is refusing to open
[03:32] <Warbo> 1 internal HD, 1 USB stick
[03:32] <Flamekebab> it's saying synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:32] <waspius> bbrazil: which means?
[03:33] <BlueEagle> warbo: ok. Very good.
[03:33] <Flamekebab> any suggestions?
[03:33] <BlueEagle> warbo: which partition is his root partition?
[03:33] <voidy> Flamekebab: try locate libvte.so.  and see what you've got already
[03:33] <Warbo> sda1
[03:33] <voidy> you might just be able to use a symbolic link to a later version of the lib
[03:33] <BlueEagle> warbo: they have him type: root (hd0,0)
[03:33] <PurpleTet> http://www.thenewsh.com/~newsham/x/art/girlsevil.gif
[03:33] <BlueEagle> warbo: and then have him type setup (hd1)
[03:34] <BlueEagle> warbo: that should set up his usb device to boot linux from /dev/sda1
[03:34] <Flamekebab> voidy - how do I find it? (a silly question, but an honest one!)
[03:34] <voidy> Flamekebab: type this
[03:34] <voidy> locate libvte.so.
[03:34] <voidy> or probably just
[03:34] <Flamekebab> okays
[03:35] <Flamekebab> done that
[03:35] <voidy> ls /usr/lib/libvtes.so.  <press tab a couple of times>
[03:35] <Flamekebab> I've got a location
[03:35] <Flamekebab> locate libvte.so.
[03:35] <voidy> what version is the one with the longest version number
[03:35] <Flamekebab> /usr/lib/libvte.so.9.1.2
[03:35] <Flamekebab> /usr/lib/libvte.so.9
[03:35] <Flamekebab> I'd assume the first would be the newest
[03:35] <voidy> well, try
[03:36] <voidy> ln -s /usr/lib/libvte.so.9.1.2 /usr/lib/libvte.so.4
[03:36] <voidy> if it doesn't work remove the link
[03:36] <voidy> it's worth a go though for a quick dirty fix
[03:36] <Flamekebab> what will that command do?
[03:36] <voidy> it creates a symbolic link to the 9.1.2 file
[03:36] <Raskall> hmm.. in the dapper installer, will resizing an ntfs partition to make room take long time without any obvious disk activity?
[03:36] <Flamekebab> okays, voidy, thank you, I'll give it a go
[03:37] <Flamekebab> I like to ask questions so I'll learn something
[03:37] <Flamekebab> just so you know, I'm not questioning whether it's the right thing to do
[03:37] <voidy> Flamekebab: well, doing that could be expected..
[03:37] <Flamekebab> voidy, woo! It worked
[03:37] <Flamekebab> thanks!
[03:37] <voidy> cool :)
[03:37] <Flamekebab> just so I know, how did that fix it?
[03:38] <mrDaniel> is there a way to approve a folder in ubuntu and than acces under windows?
[03:38] <nathansnook> is it better to run i686 kernel or stock that comes install with base unbuntu i386
[03:38] <BlueEagle> flamekebab: it told any applications that looks for libvte.so.4 to use libvte.9.1.2 instead
[03:38] <mrDaniel> i mean a approve-process like it exists under windows
[03:38] <voidy> the program was looking for libvte.so.4, but it didn't exist, so you just create a link to the .so.9 version, and it used that instead...
[03:38] <rixxon> can i prevent memory leaks, for example restrict processes to X megabytes of memory?
[03:38] <Flamekebab> voidy, excellent, and thank you too BlueEagle
[03:38] <DanaG> SATA is unshielded!
[03:38] <Flamekebab> I live and learn!
[03:39] <voidy> in unix you learn more than you live haha
[03:39] <DanaG> Closest thing to mplayerc is VLC.
[03:39] <Liohs> ok im trying to install rtorrnet and its saying im missing the openssl crypto libs
[03:39] <BlueEagle> flamekebab: It did almost the same thing as copying the file and renaming it to libvte.so.4 but it doesn't waste that much disk space afaik.
[03:39] <Flamekebab> voidy, life without learning wouldn't be fun!
[03:39] <voidy> get openssl-dev or something like that?
[03:39] <voidy> i don't know, i haven't got a clue about umbongo :)
[03:39] <voidy> ubuntu i mean ;)
[03:39] <Liohs> i just spent an hour compileing openssl
[03:39] <Liohs> >.>
[03:39] <Liohs> ok
[03:39] <DanaG> What IS drupal>
[03:40] <DanaG> ?
[03:40] <Flamekebab> now to see about getting things up and running on my other laptop!
[03:40] <BlueEagle> warbo: Did that work at all?
[03:40] <Flamekebab> oh and delightful university paperwork..
[03:40] <Liohs> checking for OPENSSL... configure: error: Could not find openssl's crypto library
[03:40] <Liohs> configure: line 15127: exit: try: numeric argument required
[03:40] <oblib> what is the "usplash_fifo" file in my root directory? Can I delete it? I don't like not being able to tab-complete /usr
[03:40] <Liohs> and theres no open ssl dev on the open ssl site
[03:40] <oblib> It wasn't there in Breezy
[03:40] <voidy> Liohs: when you compiled openssl, did you use ./configure targettype, or just ./config  ?
[03:40] <Liohs> both
[03:41] <voidy> which one is installed?
[03:41] <saint_551> Eh, is anyone here having trouble updating?
[03:41] <Liohs> ./config
[03:41] <sladen> oblib: yes, you can delete it.  There's a bug report open
[03:41] <voidy> is it installed in /usr/local/ or /usr ?
[03:41] <Liohs> usr/local/openssl
[03:41] <oblib> sladen: meaning that its presence is a bug?
[03:41] <corndog_> I'm having a problem with amaroK, when I fill a playlist or try to play a song it just skips over the song and says playlist finished. Is amarok KDE only?
[03:42] <voidy> Liohs: you probably have to provide the location of it in the ./configure that you're doing now
[03:42] <voidy> try ./configure --help
[03:42] <Liohs> ok
[03:42] <BlueEagle> oblib: ls -l /usplash_fifo
[03:43] <BlueEagle> oblib: ie. what type of file is it?
[03:43] <_jvbryne> Tearing my hair out: Setup Twinview and the virtual resolution is now 2560x1024. Really nice, except gnome ofc centers all dialogs/windows - thus they are split over the edge between the monitors. Are there any way to constrain gnome to one monitor?
[03:43] <adminx> Just checked updating and one repo was not found.
[03:43] <Liohs> voidy: not sure how to do that
[03:43] <oblib> BlueEagle: prw-r-----
[03:43] <saint_551> Stupid XGL shift-backspace. :/
[03:43] <voidy> _jvbryne:  you need to enable xinerama
[03:43] <Liohs> looking at the help now
[03:43] <Liohs> its not too helpfull
[03:43] <saint_551> So, is anyone else having trouble updating?
[03:43] <voidy> have you read the readmes?
[03:43] <BlueEagle> oblib: have you got an usplash_fifo in your /dev directory?
[03:43] <Liohs> nm
[03:43] <oblib> BlueEagle: what does the p mean?
[03:43] <Liohs> think i found it
[03:44] <Liohs> XD
[03:44] <Liohs> --with-openssl=PATH
[03:44] <Liohs> so it would do
[03:44] <voidy> sounds about right :)
[03:44] <oblib> BlueEagle: no I don't have one in /dev
[03:44] <nearfar> I have source tarball for new release of a software (glade-3 for example). Now I want to build it. But, how do I install it in such a way that it is installed as a .deb so Ubuntu won't replace it with lesser version from its repository?
[03:44] <Liohs> --with-openssl=/usr/local/openssl ?
[03:44] <nearfar> (apart from 'make install')
[03:44] <voidy> aye ye
[03:44] <saint_551> I click on the "Install Updates" button, but it only searches for more updates instead, as if I hit the "Check for Updates" button.
[03:44] <Liohs> ok
[03:44] <saint_551> Synaptic won't start
[03:45] <sladen> BlueEagle / oblib:  bug #45435
[03:45] <PurpleTet> ok, ive install teamspeak on linux with wine, but i cant seem to run it. ( reason why i hav teamspeak on wine is coz i wanna run a plugin that is only works on window )
[03:45] <BlueEagle> sladen: information on how to look up that bug will also be useful.
[03:46] <corndog_> Is amaroK KDE only? If so can anyone suggest another mp3 player that has similiar functionality?
[03:46] <Flamekebab> corndog_, amaroK will run just fine under Gnome
[03:46] <saint_551> amaroK can run on Gnome, but you need KDE libs
[03:46] <Flamekebab> and I'd assume XFCE too
[03:46] <HeathenDan> amarok can work in gnome, but you will dl a lot of dependencies
[03:46] <DanaG> You actually don't need very much of KDE for Amarok.
[03:46] <JhonnyB> hi
[03:46] <corndog_> Ok, I'll try to install those.. it just skips over my songs instead of playing.
[03:47] <JhonnyB> is blue eagle here
[03:47] <saint_551> If you're trying to stay strictly Gnome, there's rhythmbox
[03:47] <DanaG> baah, no folder views.
[03:47] <Flamekebab> JhonnyB, higher!
[03:47] <Flamekebab> yeah, he's around JhonnyB
[03:47] <JhonnyB> warbo
[03:47] <sladen> BlueEagle: https://launchpad.net/bugs/45435   normally there's an IRC bot that does it automatically, but it doesn't appear to be doing it today
[03:47] <BlueEagle> jhonnyb: blueeagle is written in one word if you want it to highlight in my IRC client.
[03:47] <BlueEagle> sladen: thanks.
[03:47] <saint_551> so... Anyone else having problems updating?
[03:48] <saint_551> Or am I the only one? ;/
[03:48] <JhonnyB> i was talkin to warbo on msn
[03:48] <JhonnyB> we tryn to install ubuntu on usb
[03:48] <tearfate> is it possible for me to connect to internet via bluetooth from windowxp to ubuntu (pc to pc not gprs)?
[03:48] <saint_551> wait...
[03:48] <saint_551> What is libvte?
[03:49] <mirzapirza> i have an old laptop with a netgear wifi pc card, what are the chances of that working under ubuntu?
[03:49] <Flamekebab> saint_551, I just had a problem with libvte
[03:50] <Flamekebab> and we fixed it
[03:50] <BlueEagle> oblib: ok, a workaround is to add a command to remove it at boot time. The file will most likely have root:root privileges so you can't remove it in .bashrc for your regular user.
[03:51] <BlueEagle> oblib: The file will be re-created at every boot so you can delete it at will.
[03:51] <DanaG> What's the PC card?
[03:51] <oblib> BlueEagle: so I will just add a command to bootmisc.sh
[03:51] <corndog_> Got it working, needed libxine-extracodecs. Thanks for the help guys.
[03:51] <saint_551> Flamekebab: So I just need to wait for the update for that, and upgrade through the console?
[03:51] <BlueEagle> oblib: hang on. Let me double check that.
[03:52] <BlueEagle> oblib: First try to rename it to .usplash_fifo
[03:52] <Flamekebab> saint_551, is synaptic not opening for you?
[03:52] <saint_551> Not at all
[03:52] <saint_551> Nor will system updates work
[03:52] <BlueEagle> oblib: if it's recreated as usplash_fifo on the next boot then you can add a command to delete it in bootmisc.
[03:52] <saint_551> apt-get still works
[03:52] <Flamekebab> okays, saint_551, if you try and launch synaptic from the console, what do you get?
[03:53] <saint_551> It can't find libvte
[03:53] <oblib> BlueEagle: will do. thanks for the help (and sladen)
[03:53] <Flamekebab> right-o
[03:53] <saint_551> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:53] <Flamekebab> I've a solution for that, thanks to voidy
[03:53] <BlueEagle> jhonnyb: If you want me to read what you write please prefix the lines with blueeagle:
[03:53] <katrine> how do i install an rpm package on an ubuntu system?
[03:53] <BlueEagle> jhonnyb: if you don't then the lines do not highlight in my IRC client and I will probably miss them.
[03:53] <Flamekebab> saint_551, type the following
[03:53] <Flamekebab> locate libvte.so
[03:53] <BlueEagle> jhonnyb: Now about installing grub to USB, did it work?
[03:54] <Flamekebab> and then tell me which files it lists
[03:54] <saint_551> I'm getting /usr/lib/libvte.so.9[.1.2| ] 
[03:54] <Flamekebab> okays, excellent
[03:54] <Flamekebab> same as me
[03:55] <keithhhh> Where does gaim install too?  I want to change the default sounds ;)
[03:55] <Flamekebab> type the following:
[03:55] <Flamekebab> ln -s /usr/lib/libvte.so.9.1.2 /usr/lib/libvte.so.4
[03:55] <Thunderpants> katrine, use alien to convert the rpm into a deb
[03:55] <Healot> whereis gaim >> keithhhh
[03:55] <Flamekebab> (I'm not sure, but you might need to use sudo for that)
[03:55] <saint_551> I love you.
[03:55] <saint_551> Just kidding, of course. But thanks
[03:55] <Flamekebab> hehe
[03:55] <Flamekebab> s'okay
[03:55] <Flamekebab> I didn't make the solution!
[03:56] <Flamekebab> I merely passed it on
[03:56] <Flamekebab> voidy gave me it
[03:56] <Flamekebab> and it worked for me
[03:56] <katrine> Thunderpants: do i have do apt-get alien? and isn't this a really hard way to do it?
[03:56] <saint_551> voidy: thanks. :)
[03:56] <saint_551> I was thinking I was rooted :o
[03:56] <Flamekebab> hehe
[03:56] <Whitelighter> Anyone here had experience installing ubuntu onto an encrypted root partition?
[03:57] <Flamekebab> I'm currently trying to get dapper xubuntu up and running on a laptop without USB booting support and no cdrom drive!
[03:57] <Flamekebab> succeeding so far!
[03:57] <Thunderpants> yes apt-get katrine , other than that i dont know as i have never used it
[03:57] <katrine> Thunderpants: i haven't fixed my repositories you see.. where is this file located?
[03:57] <Thunderpants> katrine, one mo
[03:57] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Hello, I'm back
[03:58] <Thunderpants> katrine, not sure which repo its in
[03:58] <saint_551> Thanks for all the help
[03:58] <BlueEagle> jhonnyb: USB keydrive that can boot as USB-HDD device. Make sure you read the product specification, only some USB flash sticks support this feature. (or see this 4/05 review on Ars Technica http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/flash2005.ars . Only 3 of 10 reviewed sticks are bootable.)
[03:58] <BlueEagle> jhonnyb: so make sure your USB stick can be booted.
[03:58] <katrine> Thunderpants: kk, thanks
[03:59] <Thunderpants> yvw :)
[03:59] <Warbo> BlueEagle: He booted KNOPPIX from it apparently
[03:59] <^Lynx^> hello, i've got a question. i want to install new nvidia drivers which force me to go change to root. after i did that with sudo -i I cannot change or list the directories or files in the terminal
[04:00] <^Lynx^> -change
[04:00] <BlueEagle> warbo: Then have him follow the knoppix how-to but alter the menu.lst to reflect the one of ubuntu and copy over the ubuntu kernels. http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/USB_Based_FAQ
[04:00] <nox-Hand> Hey
[04:00] <nox-Hand> I have no sound in flash - isnt this a common bug?
[04:00] <JhonnyB> here now
[04:00] <^Lynx^> oh nevermind my question
[04:00] <adminx> Yes
[04:00] <Warbo> Can anyone help me diagnose a problem? I've been trying for ages. AIGLX is preferred.....
[04:01] <adminx> very commen
[04:01] <Warbo> nox-Hand: Yes, get onto Adobe about it
[04:01] <adminx> There is a fix on ubuntu forums
[04:01] <roda> Hi, I need a decent application which allows me to record my screen into a video file - any suggestions?
[04:01] <nox-Hand> Warbo, Right..so, I am gussing its an unsolvable bug, that some pepople get, so we shold send hate-mail to adobe?
[04:01] <mrDaniel> file access form ubuntu to windows is easy, but how I establishe file acces from windows to ubuntu?
[04:01] <Warbo> roda: pyvnc2swf (does MPEG), Istanbul, Gvidcap
[04:02] <roda> thx Warbo, i'll try
[04:02] <mrDaniel> to anyone know a HOWTO or Tutorial for this?
[04:02] <mrDaniel> or a workaround???
[04:02] <NotThoughtPolice> wtf is a ubuntu?
[04:03] <adminx> Ubuntu is a Linux Distro
[04:03] <erUSUL> !samba
[04:03] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:03] <BlueEagle> jhonnyb: I found another how-to but it's in german.
[04:03] <Thaur> NotThoughtPolice, haha, best question ever
[04:03] <Blissex> mrDaniel: http://FS-driver.org/ might help.
[04:03] <mrDaniel> ??? which channel is this???
[04:03] <NotThoughtPolice> i just got wasted and stumbled in here
[04:03] <NotThoughtPolice> i'm not sure why
[04:03] <nox-Hand> Is that a yes? Flash with no sound cannot be fixed?
[04:03] <adminx> Or do you mean the meaning of the word?
[04:03] <NotThoughtPolice> is it finnish or something weird like that?
[04:03] <Thaur> NotThoughtPolice, yes.
[04:04] <roda> Warbo do you know any good multimedia repositories for atp which offers me those applications?
[04:04] <roda> apt*
[04:04] <peace-keeper> any idea what's wrong if my soundcard mixes only in mono ?
[04:04] <adminx> I thnk it means Harmony or unity .
[04:04] <nox-Hand> :/
[04:05] <NotThoughtPolice> that's swell
[04:05] <Warbo> roda: Istanbul is in Ubuntu, other than that I would google. pyvnc2swf doesn't run in Dapper's pygame version, so I debootstrapped a Breezy install just to run it
[04:05] <snoops> hey is there a way to view all symbolic links and hardlinks on my system in one nice and easy command?
[04:05] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Ask someone about loadlin
[04:06] <Blissex> snoops: yes.
[04:06] <solus_>  hey everyone, anyone with a knowledge of 6.06 and monitor problems would be great to talk to at the moment, lol
[04:06] <snoops> sweet Blissex, what's the command?
[04:06] <Blissex> snoops: 'man find' :-)
[04:06] <nismos> sb help me, ubuntu is my primary desktop and it doesnt boot after a power failure
[04:06] <nismos> booting freezes after this:
[04:07] <nismos> local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)ne 6: setLEDAsusWireless: Command n
[04:07] <Blissex> snoops: you could try 'find / -type l -o "(" -type f -a -links +1 ")"'
[04:07] <nismos> ubuntu is my primary desktop and it doesnt boot after a power failure
[04:08] <JhonnyB> hey guyz anyone help me out with loading ubuntu from usb stick?
[04:08] <nismos> booting does not go beyond this:
[04:08] <nismos> local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)ne 6: setLEDAsusWireless: Command n
[04:08] <Mez> nismus - try not to repeat yourself please
[04:08] <nismos> sorry
[04:08] <snoops> hmm excellent, thanks Blissex.. would that find just symbolic links or symbolic + hard links?
[04:09] <Blissex> snoops: both. Note that I think you don't know what a hard link is... Otherwise you would not be asking that question.
[04:09] <nismos> I guess I will go back to M$ XP
[04:09] <Healot> sure
[04:09] <ych> help, my internet refuses to work, i can't look up any hostnames
[04:09] <CokeNCode> ok guys, quick question, i installed an smtp server
[04:09] <ych> however i set my router as DNS
[04:09] <CokeNCode> and i can connect to find fine on my local machine
[04:09] <CokeNCode> but i can't access it remotely
[04:09] <CokeNCode> from a pc on the same network
[04:10] <CokeNCode> what do i need to do ?
[04:10] <CokeNCode> nmap shows the port as being open
[04:10] <Healot> nismos, if you feel comfortable using Windows XP, then, use it, I recommended Windows XP Professional though :)
[04:10] <noodle> amarok 1.4.1 running on ubuntu takes 10 seconds to quit :\ anyone know what's up?
[04:10] <nismos> when Ubuntu worked it was more usable and stable
[04:11] <nismos> for productivity, multimedia and everything
[04:11] <mrDaniel> with which program i can extraxt password-protected .rar-files ???
[04:11] <snoops> Blissex from my understanding they're system wide only, and allow for mirroring a file in another location, so any application using that file, would be linked back to the original location.. symbolic links hold pointers to said file, and can be across systems?
[04:11] <nismos> the only minus for linux is recovering after a power failure
[04:11] <Warbo> Who knows someting about loadlin?
[04:11] <Blissex> snoops: not really... Gotta read a bit more :-)
[04:12] <Healot> nismos, I really recommend you to stick to Windows XP...
[04:12] <snoops> k
[04:12] <Warbo> Particularly, using loadlin on an MSDOS partition to boot an Ubuntu one
[04:12] <relachs> Hi, can you tell me why the DVD (live and install) is that big comparded to the install only?
[04:12] <nismos> XP is not as fast as Linux
[04:12] <nismos> and is always freezing
[04:12] <nismos> I can't live without apt-get
[04:12] <Healot> nismos, define fast
[04:12] <Healot> it's really a matter of handling and OS not the architecture
[04:13] <Healot> btw, i am using Windows ATm :)
[04:13] <sa0> hi all
[04:13] <nismos> Ubuntu boots faster, loads progs faster
[04:13] <sa0> how to change my acpi signature ?
[04:13] <relachs> answer is appreciated :P
[04:13] <CokeNCode> what the hel is wrong with this this
[04:13] <sa0> nismos, ? than ?
[04:13] <nismos> than XPO
[04:13] <nismos> XP
[04:14] <nismos> XP SP2
[04:14] <nismos> I got 19 Ubuntu machines in my office
[04:14] <nismos> one at home
[04:14] <nismos> and another laptop
[04:14] <nismos> even my aunt prefers it over XP
[04:14] <JhonnyB> anyone knows loadlin?
[04:16] <Healot> JhonnyB, you don't have a bootable CD-ROM drive huh?
[04:16] <Kyja> I installed vice but dont know where it is :(
[04:16] <Healot> whereis vice?
[04:16] <Kyja> yeah
[04:16] <Kyja> I cant find it.
[04:16] <JhonnyB> why healot?
[04:17] <Kyja> and I dont even know the name to launch in terminal
[04:17] <nismos> is it possible to tell the ubuntu installer not to touch my installed progs and user IDs?
[04:17] <Healot> no, i mean type "whereis vice" in terminal
[04:17] <Kyja> tried vice, c54 , cbm
[04:17] <Healot> dpkg -l vice*
[04:17] <ochosi> hi everyone
[04:17] <Kyja> ahhh
[04:17] <Healot> if you got the package name
[04:17] <Kyja> I can try
[04:17] <Healot> dpkg -q <the package name>
[04:18] <ochosi> i have a usb-keyboard and somehow it doesn't work in ubuntu, although it does in grub and winxp
[04:19] <ochosi> i have to add: it is not genuine usb but a ps2 keyboard via a ps2>usb adapter
[04:19] <nismos> wish M$ Windows XP wouldn't crap it's pants after installing 50 programs
[04:20] <Healot> it doesn't
[04:20] <mikeubu> anyone have steps to solve mplayer playing sound but not video for cnn website?
[04:20] <flammifer> is there a way to edit a text file in root that doesn't involve sacrificing virgins to the elder gods?
[04:20] <Kyja> interesting. I find lots of vice but no binary
[04:21] <nismos> theres no root in ubuntu AFAIK
[04:21] <nismos> lol
[04:21] <Kyja> reinstalling
[04:21] <Healot> Kyja, grep for something in /usr/bin;/bin/ etc
[04:21] <flammifer> he refuses to call up gedit, I can't get vi to do anything right, and I don't have anything else (and no access to repositories either)
[04:21] <nismos> c ya guys
[04:21] <Kyja> ok thx
[04:22] <Healot> flammifer, gksudo gedit; enter your password when prompted
[04:22] <Warbo> Am I the only person out of 809 to be running AIGLX?
[04:22] <flammifer> nismos, ok, then how do I edit a file in /etc ?
[04:22] <Healot> for cli program use sudo for F sake
[04:22] <Healot> !root
[04:22] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:22] <Jmod> hello I'm have trouble gaining access to my ntfs hard drive it says You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hda1".
[04:22] <flammifer> Healot, , hmm, sounds better then vi, thanks :)
[04:22] <Phreakys> hello
[04:22] <mikeubu> anyone have steps to solve mplayer playing sound but not video for cnn website?
[04:23] <Phreakys> i just installed kubuntu 6.06 alternate on my laptop, but after installing the desktop won't load
[04:23] <Healot> flammifer, are you even reading me?
[04:23] <Healot> nvm
[04:23] <flammifer> sudo doesn't work
[04:23] <Phreakys> anyone an idea how to fix it?
[04:23] <flammifer> Healot, yes, sudo is a good idea, but doesn't work because of hostname problems :P
[04:23] <Healot> gksudo f???
[04:24] <Healot> gksudo
[04:24] <Healot> dude gksudo!@
[04:24] <Kyja> hey I did a whereis c64 and it returned "c64:"
[04:24] <Kyja> is that kinda strange?
[04:24] <flammifer> (though I admit I haden't thought of it. I'm still in the old switch to root for any maintenance problem)
[04:24] <Warbo> Kyja: You have a very varied network
[04:25] <Jmod> please PM me if any one has any info?
[04:25] <Healot> !ntfs
[04:25] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:25] <flammifer> (sudo doesn't work because my machine's name isn't in /etc/hosts :P so i want to edit /etc/conf, unfortunately I'm finding that hard to do for the moment :P)
[04:26] <Jmod> !fuse
[04:26] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:26] <mikeubu> I did automatix on two computers, one has mplayer video and sound on cnn, one doesn't have video, just sound
[04:26] <vinson2> i'm new to ubuntu.... can someone tell me what i need to do to get kermit to show up in synaptic?
[04:27] <Healot> vinson: you need package "sesame-street"
[04:27] <vinson2> Healot: funny guy....
[04:27] <helmut> Hi. I've got two systems running the same hardware. One Ubuntu and one Debian. Debian was able to use the attached usb printer (Epson Stylus DX4800) just as is (i.e. http://localhost:631/ add printer and so on). With ubuntu this seems significantly more difficult. The ubuntu setup fails to accept any password via that webinterface. I later found out the the printer can also be added via the gnome interface which actually worked. Unfortunately it first prints
[04:28] <vinson2> Healot: in all seriousness, any idea what i need to do to get packages added to synaptic?
[04:28] <helmut> Anything using colour looks pretty ugly using ubuntu ...
[04:28] <Healot> !info kermit
[04:28] <ubotu> Package kermit does not exist in dapper
[04:28] <vinson2> :(
[04:28] <Healot> !find kermit
[04:28] <ubotu> Found: gkermit, ckermit
[04:28] <vinson2> ahh
[04:28] <Noom> does any one know of any 3D packages that works on Ubuntu
[04:29] <vinson2> Healot: neither of those show up in synaptc though
[04:29] <Healot> vinson2, i told you that you need sesame street for kermit, and I am not kidding
[04:29] <Mez> Noom: try blender
[04:29] <Healot> !info gkermit
[04:29] <ubotu> gkermit: A serial and network communications package. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-4 (dapper), package size 39 kB, installed size 116 kB
[04:29] <vinson2> component universe?
[04:29] <Healot> vinson2, enable the universe section of dapper repos, update the repos list
[04:29] <vinson2> remember i just started using ubuntu today
[04:30] <vinson2> :)
[04:30] <Healot> I will not
[04:30] <Noom> thanks mez, but is there any thing else like autocad, does autocad work on blender becuase i need it for uni
[04:30] <Noom> *on ubuntu
[04:30] <Healot> I treat everyone the same
[04:31] <a_dumb_fake_name> All, I have one of those annoying newbie questions
[04:31] <Noom> does autocad work on Ubuntu
[04:31] <erUSUL> Noom: no
[04:32] <Noom> isnt there a cross platform program that makes it work
[04:32] <epitaf> erUSUL : not even through wine?
[04:32] <vinson2> Healot: where do i enable that?
[04:32] <Healot> !repos
[04:32] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:32] <a_dumb_fake_name> what causes Firefox to give me a "can't load pages" error an average of every 20 minutes? It will work if I disconnect and reconnect the ethernet connection,
[04:32] <erUSUL> epitaf: never tried. i've seen in a site that someone made AC LT work in wine
[04:32] <Healot> !universe
[04:32] <_n2o_> Hi! I've just installed Ubuntu distro at home! It's the best distro i ever use!
[04:32] <a_dumb_fake_name> which is wired by the way
[04:33] <vivir> to Trenton, is this you in China ?
[04:33] <epitaf> erUSUL : ok
[04:33] <Noom> Is there anyway of making Autocad Work on Ubuntu?
[04:33] <epitaf> So Noom you might want to check out Wine
[04:33] <Noom> ok, wine, do you have urls for that info
[04:33] <epitaf> Don't repeat youself Noom :)
[04:33] <Noom> sorry epitaf
[04:33] <epitaf> You can use the Package manger to get it
[04:34] <epitaf> No prob Noom :)
[04:34] <a_dumb_fake_name> I reviewed the forums and noticed there are lots of suggestions, all of which I'm frightened to run because I don't know what they do
[04:34] <Healot> noom: may work with WINE, btw... checkout WINE compatibility page
[04:35] <erUSUL> !wine > Noom
[04:35] <a_dumb_fake_name> What's up with Noom getting all the attention?
[04:35] <droogy> newbie here... is it possible to open programs under sudo permissions?
[04:35] <Noom> a_dumb_fake_name becuase Im Marks son
[04:36] <droogy> ie. I want to update azureus and it's internat updater doesn't work.
[04:36] <Healot> droogy, when you prefix the sudo command :)
[04:36] <Healot> and enter your password
[04:36] <erUSUL> a_dumb_fake_name: is only firefox or all net apps?
[04:36] <droogy> i'm in gnome though
[04:37] <a_dumb_fake_name> GAIM breaks too, and I can't ping anything when it happens.
[04:37] <abu> can anyone tell me how to u[grade my ubuntu 5.10 to 6.06 pls
[04:37] <abu> upgrade
[04:37] <a_dumb_fake_name> I just thought I'd check for known issues before replacing my hardware
[04:37] <BSG75> is there a way to install ubuntu without using the gui?
[04:37] <Healot> !upgrade
[04:37] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[04:37] <Healot> BSG75, use the alternate install CD?
[04:37] <wikijeff> droogy: go to a terminal and type 'sudo <program-name>'
[04:37] <a_dumb_fake_name> but why can I "fix" it by deactivating and reactivating -- every time?
[04:37] <DanaG> Oh, current versions of AutoCAD use SafeDisc, I believe
[04:38] <sharperguy> !alternate
[04:38] <Noom> A good question: I have version "The Hoary Hedgehog" of Ubuntu, If I install that on my PC does it automatically get updated to the Dapper Drake
[04:38] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.
[04:38] <BSG75> I haven't tried that yet .. thank you Healot... I have an old laptop .. it's dieing trying to install via gui
[04:38] <DanaG> cdac<4-digit-number-I-can't-remember>
[04:38] <Healot> btw
[04:38] <Healot> for minimalist setup, download and isntall using the server CD
[04:38] <oblib> If I compile my own kernel and install it as a .deb package, will apt update it when appropriate, or will I have to manually upgrade my kernel from then on?
[04:39] <Healot> or use Xubuntu instead
[04:39] <Healot> left, blah blah
[04:39] <Blissex> oblib: manually, but there is a command to make a kernel package.
[04:39] <Ranbee> can someone tell me the name of the 'gnome config tool' - the program which can put the trash on the desktop.
[04:39] <oblib> Blissex: what's the difference? what's a kernel package
[04:39] <Healot> iether wiht module-assistant or isntall make-kpkg package
[04:40] <sharperguy> there is also a kernal autocompiler somewhere
[04:40] <jrib> Ranbee: gconf-editor
[04:40] <Blissex> !kpkg
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kpkg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <Blissex> !kernel package
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel package - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <jrib> !trash > Ranbee
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <wikijeff> What's the best way to get system information such as processor speed and RAM/HD size?
[04:40] <Ranbee> jrib, thanks
[04:40] <jrib> Blissex: /msg buotu kernel
[04:40] <Blissex> !kernel
[04:40] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:40] <Blissex> oblib:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:41] <oblib> Blissex: thanks
[04:41] <keithg> I'm only two years older than Linux... wow.
[04:41] <jrib> wikijeff: lshw is pretty good
[04:41] <jrib> wikijeff: you can do stuff like 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' as well
[04:41] <wikijeff> jrib: do I have to run it as root?
[04:42] <jrib> wikijeff: it gives you more info if you do
[04:42] <wikijeff> ok, thanks
[04:43] <Noom> if i install my ubuntu version of  "The Hoary Hedgehog" does it automatically get updated to the Dapper Drake version
[04:43] <snoops> Blissex thanks for the help before.. find / -type l gets me a list of symbolic links which is great.. one thing though, how can I find say all files which have symbolic links going to them?
[04:43] <jrib> wikijeff: the 'free -m' command is useful for ram, and free space on your partitions, 'df -h' is useful
[04:43] <Blissex> snoops: that is not so easy...
[04:44] <oblib> I have the entire kernel source -- is there an easy way of compiling just one module from that source to use with my current kernel?
[04:44] <a_dumb_fake_name> I'll be timing out of my Internet connection any minute now -- surely this question is a softball for you all...
[04:44] <DanaG> Why are gnome's xscreensaver options so sucky?
[04:44] <jrib> snoops: you could do 'readlink -f' on every symbolic link you find :)
[04:44] <DanaG> What's yer ethernet?
[04:44] <snoops> oh really jrib? that's pretty easy
[04:44] <wikijeff> jrib, on the system monitor do you know what the difference between memory in use by programs and memory in use by cache is?
[04:44] <snoops> so I could pipe it almost?
[04:45] <a_dumb_fake_name> I don't know what you're asking
[04:45] <a_dumb_fake_name> danag
[04:45] <DanaG> Were you saying you had internet issues?
[04:45] <jrib> wikijeff: I think cache means it's using your swap on your hard drive and just memory means RAM.  I'm not 100% sure about this though
[04:45] <aaronc> how can I get the ipv6 mod to stop loading?  I tried some help I saw in the forums that said to append an 'off' in some file in modprode.d, but its still loading
[04:45] <a_dumb_fake_name> i'm poking around in device manager
[04:46] <keithhhh> General question...why in linux is it hard to install programs?  If its not in the repositories?
[04:46] <CokeNCode> ok, the problem is that for some strange reason, my stupid windows machine won't telnet out to port 25
[04:46] <a_dumb_fake_name> Would 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100]  mean anything DanaG
[04:46] <CokeNCode> it works fine from another windows machine on the network
[04:46] <wikijeff> jrib, yeah that doesn't quite make sense since cache + memory = my total RAM and there's a separate thing for swap
[04:46] <CokeNCode> so, my smtp server is working fine
[04:46] <jrib> snoops: yep, or just use -exec with find and then you probably want to pipe to uniq to get rid of multiple instances of files
[04:46] <CokeNCode> this is highly unusual, and annoying
[04:46] <krazykit> aaronc: you could add the module to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:47] <cjuner> Hi there... Anyone knows a good place to ask about the usage of autoconf? I use autoconf to generate a configure script. On my system (and likely on others) the AC_PROG_CC macro checks for the object file suffix. This is not mentioned in the GNU Autoconf Manual. Does it define a variable for that suffix? How to access that?
[04:47] <aaronc> krazykit: ok, I'll try that
[04:47] <keithhhh> General question...why in linux is it hard to install programs?  If its not in the repositories?
[04:47] <Noom> if i install my ubuntu version of  "The Hoary Hedgehog" does it automatically get updated to the Dapper Drake version
[04:47] <DanaG> Yeah, if it's an Intel NIC, it's probably not a driver issue.
[04:47] <Healot> keithhhh, it is way easy, ebcause tehre is only on place to download?
[04:48] <krazykit> Noom: it'd really be better to just install dapper.  hoary is way old, and you might have some problems updating.
[04:48] <jrib> wikijeff: run 'man top' that should explain what they mean
[04:48] <fdoving> keithhhh: because there is a lack of standard ways to package software.
[04:48] <DanaG> I know I have had issues with my ISP deciding to be sucky.
[04:48] <Healot> no google, just a simple repos setup and download?
[04:48] <skarface> Noom: not "automatically", but you can use dist-upgrade to get there. it would be better to isntall from a dapper cd, though.
[04:48] <Jean> jemand aus dem deutschen raum anwesend?
[04:48] <Noom> ok, thanks krazyit
[04:48] <jrib> !de
[04:48] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:48] <a_dumb_fake_name> I know I should start experimenting with different modems to rule that out (my modem is ancient). .. maybe I'll do an experiment @ my friends house and circle back
[04:48] <droogy> does /msg work?
[04:48] <DanaG> Oh, dialup?
[04:49] <droogy> or do yall have it blocked...
[04:49] <a_dumb_fake_name> no, no, DSL
[04:49] <keithhhh> fdoving: so why do you think it hasnt been standardized yet??
[04:49] <a_dumb_fake_name> I noticed that my powerbook (which I had to return to my former employer) suddenly wouldn't connect via Airport
[04:49] <DanaG> What about those filters?  I have cable, so I don't have to deal with those.
[04:49] <droogy> wikijeff-> hrm... that's a little annoying though... if a program trys to update itself. I have to cancel, exit the program and sudo it using the terminal..
[04:50] <fsancho> hi all
[04:50] <a_dumb_fake_name> and so then when I fired up the laptop @ the bottom of my closet w/ this new Ubuntu thing, I couldn't even connect from a wired connection
[04:50] <fdoving> keithhhh: because there are alot of good ways, and everyone want to keep their own way. and we are all stubborn bastards.
[04:50] <wikijeff> droogy, are you sure these things need to be run as root?
[04:50] <fsancho> i have a strange problem in my thinkpad 600x
[04:50] <jenda> OK, does anyone have trouble burning CDs? It seems to be a kernel-related epidemy. Neither of my computers can burn now.
[04:50] <fsancho> the sound card seems to work
[04:50] <a_dumb_fake_name> so testing the modem seems like the logical next step
[04:50] <Jean> i need help...can somebody help about ubuntu?
[04:50] <fsancho> but only oss emulation works
[04:50] <skarface> jenda: I'm burning fine
[04:50] <keithhhh> fdoving: ya that is what I thought bastards
[04:51] <fsancho> alsa native apps doesn't sound
[04:51] <droogy> wikijeff, it's azureus, so it's just copying jar files to the appropriate directory.
[04:51] <DanaG> easy steps to try:  test a different OS, test modem without router, then last of all test the modem.
[04:51] <fsancho> my soundcard is 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator]  (rev 01)
[04:51] <fsancho> and i'm using snd-cs46xx
[04:51] <fsancho> with kernel 2.6.15-23-686
[04:51] <wikijeff> droogy, well that's a pretty popular program, I'd think that you would be able to find information on updating it online
[04:51] <DanaG> Until I updated the firmware on my Netgear RP614v2, I'd get an INSTANT drop whenever two people were using the MSN messenger / hotmail protocol.
[04:51] <fsancho> sorry, 2.6.15-26-686
[04:52] <a_dumb_fake_name> I wish I could test a different OS -- but I'm trying to use opensource software due to financial necessity.  loving the concept of ubuntu, but when thei'
[04:52] <jenda> skarface: using what?
[04:52] <skarface> jenda: gnomebaker
[04:52] <jenda> damn
[04:52] <a_dumb_fake_name> I meant there's a problem, It's like I am in a foreign land
[04:52] <jenda> kernel version?
[04:52] <skarface> whatever the latest ubuntu runs
[04:53] <a_dumb_fake_name> I think that firmware idea may be worth investigating.
[04:53] <ardchoille> Back in a bit.. going to see if this new Ubuntu system does what I think it will do :)
[04:53] <linux_user400354> how can i get bouncing cow screen saver?
[04:53] <a_dumb_fake_name> I got kind of intrigued by the # of posts to the support forums on the same topic.
[04:53] <neutrinomass> a_dumb_fake_name: Are you trying to get a dsl modem to work? Is it USB ?
[04:53] <sioux> hi people...  but ubuntu needs defragmentation files?  I boot it up just now and I got a message that force a fcsk check due to a partiotn is been mounted more than 30 times and the results was 3% of files non contigus. What that means?
[04:53] <skarface> jenda: 2.16.15-26-386
[04:53] <Healot> linux_user400354, buy a copy, hoho
[04:53] <neutrinomass> sioux: It's the equivalent of scandisk
[04:53] <jenda> skarface: OK
[04:53] <a_dumb_fake_name> It works, no it's not USB, but it keeps dropping me.
[04:54] <a_dumb_fake_name> I can't decide if it's a Firefox/Ubuntu thing or a hardware (or now, firmware) thing.
[04:54] <flaca> ls
[04:54] <sioux> neutri but as I know linux do not needs scandisk or defragmentation isen't it?
[04:54] <flaca> dir
[04:54] <flaca> cd ..
[04:54] <jenda> What is the error when gnomebaker hangs on "Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... " and then fails after some time?
[04:54] <neutrinomass> sioux: Agreed it can be scary :-) There's an open bug about it, that it scares users away.
[04:54] <flaca> cd ..
[04:54] <a_dumb_fake_name> PCI is an alternative to USB right?
[04:54] <a_dumb_fake_name> I feel so ignorant...
[04:55] <stray_77> rj45
[04:55] <linux_user400354> Healot: thats open source software. it doesnt cost money.
[04:55] <sioux> neutri with refeirs I have never sow that
[04:55] <neutrinomass> sioux: Normally no. Fragmentation is rarely an issue (maybe after several years) .... The "scandisk" (fsck - Filesystem Check) you saw was a "just in case" (you will see it again if you have a power failure or something )
[04:55] <DanaG> No, some cable or DSL modems connect over USB, but that's usually windows-only.
[04:55] <Healot> linux_user400354, you got the wrong definition of FREE, its libre not gratis :)
[04:55] <a_dumb_fake_name> thanks danag
[04:55] <neutrinomass> sioux: It's done every 30 boot ups "just in case"
[04:56] <Noom> Do applications running on wine, neccessarily run slower then they do on there specific platforms????
[04:56] <sioux> strange fs...  with suse never happened
[04:56] <neutrinomass> DanaG: Most of them work on linux as well
[04:57] <neutrinomass> sioux: I know. That's why it was suggested that it should be removed - other major distributions don't do it any more (it was common practice a few years ago though).
[04:57] <a_dumb_fake_name> The connection god must like IRC -- I am still connected
[04:57] <Healot> you prefer a worse connection?
[04:57] <sc0tty> hello
[04:57] <neutrinomass> a_dumb_fake_name: When it disconnects, what are the last lines of "dmesg" ?
[04:58] <neutrinomass> hello sc0tty :)
[04:58] <Luke> My USB doesnt work with this error flooding my dmesg: http://monoport.com/1026 anyone know how to fix this?
[04:58] <a_dumb_fake_name> hmmm. Is that some sort of firefox verbose system messaging that I can turn on, or am I supposed to find that information someplace else?
[04:58] <ych> burp
[04:59] <Dattasmoon> is there a way to use bind (9) to block websites?
[04:59] <a_dumb_fake_name> whoops, looks like I horned in on someone else's support question
[04:59] <sc0tty> I was wondering, with one of my RAM sticks I get an error while installing Ubuntu 6.06 , bash: /dev/null Permission Denied
[04:59] <frogzoo> Dattasmoon: that's got to be the wrong approach
[04:59] <sc0tty> after doing all the checks [ok]  (starting X and such )
[05:00] <neutrinomass> a_dumb_fake_name: It's a kernel information reporting tool. It shows all sorts of useful stuff if something goes wrong ..
[05:00] <erUSUL> Dattasmoon: make it resolve the adresses to localhost or a nonexistan/invalid ip
[05:00] <neutrinomass> sc0tty: Have you tried a memory test ?
[05:00] <Dattasmoon> frogzoo, why? that seems to be perfect
[05:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Goodmorning All, I am having a problem getting AcidRip to take Non-encrypted DVD of home movies and create mpg's from them.  It does avi fine but mpg show 16 seconds of blank screen and will not play
[05:00] <sc0tty> yes, the stick is all new
[05:00] <frogzoo> Dattasmoon: why not firewall them through iptables? or run an apache/squid proxy?
[05:00] <igcek> 6.06, can it be installed without going into liive mode?
[05:00] <neutrinomass> sc0tty: I don't doubt that - but have you run memtest86+ ? Let it run for 1-2 hours ... the stick could be faulty
[05:01] <sc0tty> how long should the memtest take to have a trustable answer ?
[05:01] <lens> my WINE is having some problems... I used to automatically find it by "cd ~/.wine" but it's not there anymore, I am sure it is installed, but no clue as to where my WINE is?
[05:01] <neutrinomass> igcek: Yes, see the "install" (former "alternate") CD ...
[05:01] <erUSUL> Luke: this is a kernel error/bug report it bug.ubuntu.com. Solution? try another kernel
[05:01] <Dattasmoon> frogzoo: i have not had any luck with the iptables filtering or the squid program
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> igcek: If it wont run as lve then it is doubtful it will run without a tweek
[05:02] <igcek> i would like just to install it, than make a server with it...
[05:03] <igcek> acess it only thru ssh
[05:03] <Jack_Sparrow> igcek: use install aka alternate cd
[05:03] <Scorpmoon> is using ubuntu as a server a sane choice?
[05:03] <erUSUL> igcek: use the server cd
[05:04] <igcek> i cant just turn off live mode on cd...
[05:04] <tanath> whenever i log in an error pops up saying Unable to start gnome settings daemon, and this: " IDL:Bonobo/GeneralError:1.0 : Child process did not give an error message, unknown failure occurred"
[05:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Scorpmoon: It really is stable...
[05:04] <teicah> how can i make gthumb the default image viewer instead of eog?
[05:04] <DanaG> Oh, for internet issues (not OS-specific), one good site is broadbandreports.com
[05:05] <keithhhh> what is the best video editing software for Ubuntu??
[05:05] <neutrinomass> erUSUL: The server CD ? Why not the "install" cd with the old installer ?
[05:05] <Scorpmoon> but how does ubunutu server differ from desktop? does it still install with GUI, and use gnome?
[05:05] <tanath> teicah: in nautilus you can right click a file, and go to properties, choose the open with tab
[05:05] <neutrinomass> !best
[05:05] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[05:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Goodmorning All, I am having a problem getting AcidRip to take Non-encrypted DVD of home movies and create mpg's from them.  It does avi fine but mpg show 16 seconds of blank screen and will not play
[05:05] <tanath> teicah: then it'll use the app you specify for that file type. do that for whichever filetypes you want
[05:05] <tyler_d> someone please help, my icon's are no longer showing up in tray after installing aMSN???
[05:06] <Caglix> ciao everybody
[05:07] <Jack_Sparrow> tyler_d:   How do you spell conspiracy?
[05:07] <erUSUL> neutrinomass: igcek said that it wanted to install a headless server. i think that the server install cd is more apropiate for that
[05:07] <tyler_d>  Jack_Sparrow: Windows
[05:08] <neutrinomass> erUSUL: Ahh ok, I didn't catch that part of the question ...
[05:08] <Jack_Sparrow> I thought there were only two cd's the Live 6.06 and the Alt/Server version...
[05:09] <tyler_d>  Jack_Sparrow: do you know where they went?, cause I have programs running that I cannot see or get to restore..?
[05:09] <linux_user400354> Healot: i dont speak spanish or whatever foreign language you are using.
[05:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Older versions not withstanding
[05:09] <petriborg> hey guys is there something like debsums for ubuntu?
[05:09] <sioux> I am trying to install a karaoke soft (plarpebu) but I get this java error com.zerog.lax.LAX any ideas?
[05:09] <igcek> the problem is im too eager to install it now, i dont have any free cds and i dont want LAMP from server
[05:09] <Jack_Sparrow> md5sum
[05:09] <LinuxHelp> Hi, I'm try to mount my ext3 / with data=journal (in /etc/fstab), and what happens on boot is that it says: cant change data mode on remount
[05:10] <LinuxHelp> So I'm wondering, do I have to pass a special param to my kernel at boot?
[05:10] <igcek> i would be grateful if you tell me is there a way to turn off live mode
[05:10] <Megaqwerty> Does anyone know how to fix the synaptic package manager after the changes from the update?
[05:10] <Luis> hola alguien puede decirme los requerimientos de ubuntu
[05:10] <Jack_Sparrow> igcek: The short answer... No.
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> igcek,  live mode?
[05:10] <sioux> Hi ubuntuniani I am trying to install a karaoke soft (plarpebu) but I get this java error com.zerog.lax.LAX any ideas?
[05:11] <neutrinomass> !es ?
[05:11] <ubotu> es: An extensible shell based on `rc'. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.90beta1-10.1 (dapper), package size 99 kB, installed size 248 kB
[05:11] <sioux> megaqwerty there is the answars on ubuntuforums
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> igcek: And if live mode will not run there is a good chance it would need a tweek to work at all.
[05:11] <Megaqwerty> sioux: could you give me the link?
[05:11] <wes_> !dmraid
[05:11] <ubotu> dmraid: Device-Mapper Software RAID support tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9+1.0.0.rc9-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 117 kB, installed size 460 kB
[05:13] <Jack_Sparrow> tyler_d: sorry for the lag, sorry also that I do not have an answer since I have not used that program.
[05:13] <sioux> megaqwerty see this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239191&highlight=synaptic
[05:13] <a_dumb_fake_name> danaG, thank you very much. I will have to go now, but plan to take UNIX as a second language lessons before coming in here again -- this support area is interesting, but more whupass than I expected. Later, jude
[05:13] <Megaqwerty> sioux: thanks!
[05:13] <igcek> well then, got to go search music cd-rw in car and start download for server... thanks anyway
[05:13] <FurryNemesis> Megaqwerty, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239238&highlight=synaptic+broken this as well
[05:14] <Megaqwerty> sioux: YOU ROCK!
[05:15] <Megaqwerty> and thanks for the attempted help FurryNemesis, but you came in a few seconds too late.
[05:15] <sioux> yes I am not lento! ciao
[05:16] <ilyuha> All greetings. I test chat BlaB! lite to the address of http: // ilyuha.ho.com.ua/chat/, for clause. At me the greater request: who is not so borrowed, come, please, state the remarks, what pluss and minuses at a chat (it is direct in the same place, in a chat). Thanks and Sorry for my English:)
[05:16] <wheels3572> Where can I go to change my pdf viewer so it uses the one that I installed?
[05:16] <FurryNemesis> heh beat me to it
[05:17] <Liohs> any one have a rtorrent config file i can look at the one on the site is dead?
[05:17] <sharperguy> who can help me get vjbulibre-plugin working with firefox?
[05:19] <Jack_Sparrow> tyGoodmorning All, I am having a problem getting AcidRip to take Non-encrypted DVD of home movies and create mpg's from them.  It does avi fine but mpg show 16 seconds of blank screen and will not play
[05:19] <JDahl> I am trying to use a Zyxel usb wlan interface with ubuntu.  I found some unofficial drivers on Zyxel's homepage,  but I wonder it should be necessary to build drivers from source.  Does anyone have experience with wlan via USB?
[05:20] <keithhhh> if I have a memory card slot in my notebook would anyone know where it would show the files if a card is in the slot???
[05:20] <tanath> wheels3572: right click a pdf in nautilus, click properties > open with > choose your pdf viewer
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> keithhhh:  Is that a flash card in a PCMCIA slot?
[05:21] <keithhhh> Jack_Sparrow: flashcard
[05:21] <wheels3572> ok
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> keithhhh: I just wanted to differenciate between a USB memory stick..
[05:22] <fsancho> hi all
[05:22] <fsancho> i have a strange problem in my thinkpad 600x
[05:22] <fsancho> the sound card seems to work
[05:22] <wheels3572> ty tanath
[05:22] <fsancho> but only oss emulation works
[05:22] <fsancho> alsa native apps doesn't sound
[05:22] <keithhhh> Jack_Sparrow: so do you know where it would be located?
[05:22] <tanath> wheels3572: np
[05:22] <fsancho> my soundcard is 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator]  (rev 01)
[05:22] <sioux> Hi who help me to fix this java error that I get when I run a jvm applet? : com.zerog.lax.LAX
[05:22] <fsancho> and i'm using snd-cs46xx
[05:22] <fsancho> with kernel 2.6.15-26-686
[05:22] <wheels3572> tanath, now when I open any pdf that I downlaod it will use the program I just selected?
[05:23] <Blissex> sioux: ##Java I think mught be better.
[05:23] <viator> !qemu
[05:23] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[05:23] <tanath> fsancho: i believe ubuntu uses esd...
[05:23] <Jack_Sparrow> keithhhh: PCMCIA correct? Do you know the format on the flashcard? fat(32,16,8) or other?
[05:23] <tanath> wheels3572: it should
[05:23] <keithhhh> no just a slot in my computer
[05:23] <teicah> how can i make gthumb the default image viewer instead of eog?
[05:23] <wheels3572> tanath, ok ty
[05:23] <keithhhh> Jack_Sparrow: No just a card reader in my notebook
[05:24] <sioux> blissex seems ##java doesn't exist as irc
[05:24] <Jack_Sparrow> keithhhh:  It show up on your desktop as usbdrive
[05:24] <fsancho> tanath, this is not the problem. without esd loaded, in a console, to ear a soundfile, "aplay" doesn't work but "play" works ok
[05:24] <Scorpmoon> is ubuntu server the same download as ubuntu desktop?
[05:24] <erUSUL> Scorpmoon: no
[05:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Scorpmoon: no
[05:25] <tanath> fsancho: aplay uses alsa
[05:25] <tanath> fsancho: if you're using esd it wouldn't work
[05:25] <fsancho> yes, and it doesn't sounds, but play uses oss and works ok.
[05:25] <Scorpmoon> honestly, is ubuntu server better than opensuse? :)
[05:25] <fsancho> tanath, esound isn't loaded
[05:25] <keithhhh> Jack_Sparrow: hmmm no luck  :(
[05:25] <tanath> fsancho: esd is good 'cause it lets multiple apps use the soundcard
[05:26] <fsancho> tanath, i know it
[05:26] <sharperguy> Who knows is shipit will still offer dapper cd's after Edgy comes out, in case they requre LTS
[05:26] <Scorpmoon> i take that as a no
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> keithhhh: try the diskmopunter script..
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !diskmounter
[05:26] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:27] <tanath> fsancho: if you go to System > prefs > sound, is esd enabled?
[05:27] <fsancho> no
[05:27] <tanath> fsancho: you turned it off?
[05:28] <fsancho> tanath, yes, for the tests
[05:28] <tanath> what tests?
[05:28] <keithhhh> Jack_Sparrow: where is the disk mounter script??
[05:28] <Jack_Sparrow> one sec
[05:28] <tanath> fsancho: why don't you configure it to work with esd?
[05:29] <fsancho> tanath, this is not the problem
[05:29] <Jack_Sparrow> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[05:29] <tanath> what is the problem then?
[05:29] <linux__alien> is gnome better or KDE ?
[05:29] <sharperguy> !gnomevskde
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnomevskde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <tanath> linux__alien: they each have their points...
[05:29] <teicah> gnome
[05:29] <fsancho> my alsa driver doesn't work in native mode only the oss emulation seems to work
[05:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !best
[05:29] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[05:30] <grogoreo> hi
[05:30] <sharperguy> Questions like gnome vs kde dont really work, just try them both and seee which suits you  best
[05:30] <tyler_d> panel not showing correct applications running?
[05:30] <tanath> linux__alien: try both. you can have both installed at the same time if you want
[05:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Or install both and switch between
[05:31] <petriborg> anyone know a way to verify ubuntu package integrity after they have been installed?
[05:31] <linux__alien> tanath, is it possible to develop C++ programs using gtk from KDE ?
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> or pick your desktop and install any apps from the other desktop at the click of a button.
[05:31] <linux__alien> Gnome is really better for this
[05:31] <tanath> linux__alien: of course
[05:31] <grogoreo> I've followed this HOWTO on setting up Postfix+Courier IMAP etc (http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/) but I can't seem to create folders in IMAP. If I were to manually do it where would I put them? In the virtual directories there are the folders: cur new tmp but when I make a directory here it doesn't show up on Squirrel Mail
[05:31] <NemesisUK> hi, why would I start getting version magic errors while inserting a kernel module (fglrx). has never happened before
[05:31] <mcphail> linux__alien: yes, of course
[05:31] <frogzoo> linux__alien: gnome is the default gdm if that's any help
[05:31] <tanath> linux__alien: you can run gnome apps in kde and vice versa too...
[05:31] <fuoco> is there an app yet in linux that can do voip with google talk ?
[05:32] <linux__alien> yes but GTK apps go well with Gnome and loads faster right?
[05:32] <tanath> fuoco: i know gaim is working on it...
[05:32] <mcphail> petriborg: no, you cannot reliably validate installed files. The only way to do this is to prepare a checksum immediately after installation
[05:32] <tanath> fuoco: will be available in edgy i believe
[05:32] <fuoco> tanath: anything that already works ? like telepathy stuff etc... ?
[05:33] <teicah> hahaha
[05:33] <tanath> fuoco: not that i know of, but haven't really checked...
[05:33] <mcphail> petriborg: chkrootkit and rootkithunter can identify some suspicious files
[05:33] <linux__alien> i had requested for Ububtu CDs on 2006-07-25 but i am not sure which CDS i would get
[05:33] <linux__alien> will i get Dapper Drake?
[05:34] <sharperguy> you should do
[05:34] <petriborg> mcphail: and ubuntu never bothered to setup checksups for something like that? i was hopping they had cause deb uses debsums to do it :(
[05:34] <sharperguy> 07 is well after dapper relase, but well before edgy
[05:34] <linux__alien> but today i see a line in the web site saying We are currently accepting requests for Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) CDs.
[05:34] <linux__alien> what does LTS mean
[05:34] <Dattasmoon> how can i set up squid to be a transparent server? if i change just the port it listens to, to 80 will that do it?
[05:34] <mcphail> petriborg: not that i am aware
[05:35] <geser> linux__alien: Long-Time Support
[05:35] <tanath> fuoco: maybe this? http://tapioca-voip.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Tapioca
[05:35] <petriborg> mcphail: i'm trying to validate the programs because i had some HD corruption issues last week and i fixed them and reinstalled the coreutil package to fix some of the basics like df that got broken, but most of the rest of the system *seems* to be fine but it would be nice if i could verify and/or reinstall part of the base system :/
[05:36] <linux__alien> whats the default audio player in ubuntu
[05:37] <mcphail> petriborg: you can "aptitude reinstall" packages
[05:37] <mrkinder> I'm trying to get the ati accelerator drivers/libraries/whatever as I've just installed ubuntu, anyone got any ideas where I can find them
[05:37] <mrkinder> I'm on a radeon 9250 for what its worth
[05:37] <tanath> !ati
[05:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:37] <scott_> Would someone like to help me out with a sound problem? i think i am just missing a group and need help to find out the default groups i need
[05:38] <mrkinder> I've tried that link before ubotu, its way more confusing than the link I was given the first time I did this
[05:38] <tanath> mrkinder: ubotu is a bot. it was responding to me
[05:38] <KenSentMe> mrkinder: ubotu is a bot
[05:38] <mrkinder> Well, now you've got an idea of how new I am :)
[05:38] <cool_nick> how do i change the default ttl to a different value?
[05:39] <sharperguy> !drm
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <petriborg> mcphail: thanks i will check it out
[05:39] <scott_> could someone just run "groups" for their main user and tell me what they have??
[05:39] <W9ZEB-Lars> is there a how-to for making imbedded wmv videos play in firefox on dapper?
[05:39] <linux_user400354> has anyone got gmailfs to work?
[05:39] <DanaG> dana adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[05:40] <DanaG> "dana" is my user name.
[05:40] <tengil> can i change color on the actual windows somehow. i dont mean changin theme. that doesnt seem to change colors of the firefox window and such. just the top bar basically
[05:40] <tanath> mrkinder: open a terminal, and do this: glxinfo | grep direct
[05:40] <jrib> tengil: you can use firefox themes
[05:40] <scott_> DanaG thanks
[05:40] <DanaG> If you're setting up a user, you may also have to edit the sudoers file.
[05:40] <DanaG> !sudoers
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <tanath> mrkinder: you should see a line that says 'direct rendering: ' yes or no...
[05:41] <bruenig> !sudo
[05:41] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:41] <scott_> DanaG i screwed my groups up with a root command
[05:41] <tanath> mrkinder: should be yes. if so, you're good
[05:41] <jrib> DanaG, scott_: any user in the admin group should get sudo access
[05:41] <Papageno> I have an installation of Ubuntu that I want to make into Xubuntu. Simply installing xubuntu-desktop will not suffice: I want to remove any package that is not in a regular Xubuntu install and install any package that is. How do I do that? Is there a simple way to convert an Ubuntu installation to Xubuntu?
[05:41] <scott_> how are you suppose to add groups to your user name correctly?
[05:41] <jrib> scott_: addgroup
[05:41] <tengil> jrib: but i mean for everything. do i need a theme for each. like if i open gaim firefox, network-admin and everything
[05:41] <scott_> jrib as root right?
[05:42] <lamego> Papageno, you would need to list every package on ubuntu-desktop, remove it, and then install xubuntu
[05:42] <tanath> tengil: that would be themes
[05:42] <jrib> scott_: yeah
[05:42] <Papageno> lamego: How would I go about doing that?
[05:42] <DanaG> When I try to get the Sonar screensaver to ping, it gives me: sonar: unable to determine local subnet address: "m685"   resolves to loopback address 127.0.0.1.
[05:42] <tengil> tanath: i changed between all the themes that comes with ubuntu with gnome. nothing changing colors of all those windows. just the top bars and such
[05:42] <jrib> tengil: some programs use the gtk theme, others like firefox use their own stuff
[05:43] <tanath> tengil: in System > prefs > theme?
[05:43] <tanath> tengil: WFM...
[05:43] <tengil> im lying
[05:43] <cool_nick> can anybody help me to change the default ttl to a different value?
[05:43] <tengil> i must have been drunk or something when i tried that
[05:43] <tengil> it does change colors
[05:43] <tanath> :)
[05:43] <tyler_d> Wisbar Lite? comments?
[05:43] <tengil> tanath: any good place to get more themes?
[05:43] <tanath> tengil: that's called making a mistake
[05:44] <tengil> hehe indeed
[05:44] <lamego> Papageno, apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop | grep -i "Depends:" | sed "s/Depends://g" | tr -d "," | xargs -n1 sudo apt-get -y remove
[05:44] <sioux> Hi I get this error when I run a java installer: com.zerog.lax.LAX.launch (Unknown Source) who help me?
[05:44] <tanath> tengil: google it
[05:44] <tengil> but cant i modify a theme and change colors myself?
[05:44] <geser> tengil: www.gnome-look.org
[05:44] <tengil> thanks
[05:44] <tanath> i've heard of that one ^
[05:44] <JDahl> I think my wireless USB card is already supported,  and  I loaded the driver with modprobe zd1201,  but how do I create the wireless device (eth1 or soething like that?)
[05:44] <tanath> tengil: custom is there
[05:45] <Papageno> lamego: will that single command automate the WHOLE process? Should I exit Gnome to do it and do it from the shell?
[05:45] <Luke> is there a way to get deb packages of kernels packaged for ubuntu edgy?
[05:45] <lamego> Papageno, yes, its a single command to automate it, yes you should do it on a text console, CTRL-ALT-F1
[05:46] <tanath> Papageno: that would automate removing them
[05:46] <kads> hi there my synaptic failed
[05:46] <lamego> Papageno, also please note that you need a trailing space on the line
[05:46] <lamego> "apt-get remove "
[05:46] <tengil> tanath: custom is where?
[05:46] <tengil> i cant find it...
[05:46] <tanath> tengil: in System > prefs > theme
[05:46] <Jmod> how can I gain access to my already mounted hard drive I'm still getting an error message says now please read this I'm sure this is a very common problem and there must be an answer to this, so don't just type !ntfs and be done with it ok? it's mounted now what ells do I have to do? (Error message from Ubuntu: The folder contents could not be displayed. You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hda1". I ha
[05:47] <scott_> for adding myself to groups: how do i make thee changes take effect without logging out?
[05:47] <tanath> tengil: er... mine's gone now..
[05:47] <erUSUL> Luke: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:47] <kads> the error is synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:47] <lamego> Jmod, you must mount it with the correct umask or uid
[05:47] <erUSUL> !kernel > Luke
[05:47] <lamego> Jmod, do you want it mounted at each boot ?
[05:47] <tanath> tengil: try choosing one, and click theme details..
[05:47] <Jmod> what dose that mean
[05:47] <tyler_d> Jmod: sudo nautilus
[05:47] <tengil> tanath: yeah i noticed i can pick from different themes
[05:47] <tengil> but not specify my own
[05:47] <lamego> kads, please look for the fix on the forum, its a compiz related problem (during an update)
[05:48] <Viper550> Anyone want to see the theme I'm working on for Edgy?
[05:48] <Jmod> yes mount each boot sure with access pleas
[05:48] <tanath> tengil: once you modify one, a 'custom' one will appear at the top
[05:48] <lamego> Jmod, edit your /etc/fstab
[05:48] <geser> scott_: there is no way, you have to re-login
[05:48] <scott_> geser, ok thanks
[05:48] <sharperguy> Who likes egg mayonaise?
[05:48] <erUSUL> Jmod: how did you mounted the drive?
[05:48] <tyler_d> Jmod: run sudo nautilus then browse to it
[05:48] <Tamale> oo oo me me!
[05:48] <lamego> on the options column for your ntfs partition, you should have defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46
[05:49] <tengil> tanath: ah yeah thats pretty good
[05:49] <lamego> gid is a group from which the initial user is member, and has access to the mounted system
[05:49] <Volvo> !irssi
[05:49] <ubotu> IRSSI is a command line interface IRC application ( "sudo apt-get install irssi" without the quotes to try it out )
[05:49] <abo> does anyone know a good SQL client for linux (with GUI)
[05:49] <scott_> thanks everyone, it is working
[05:50] <lamego> abo, if you like web based, phpmyadmin is a nice tool
[05:50] <tengil> when you modify though you can only change controls icons and border. not the actual windows
[05:50] <cyphase> is anyone here at or going to be at ubucon today?
[05:50] <scott_> oh!
[05:50] <tanath> whenever i log in an error pops up saying Unable to start gnome settings daemon, and this: " IDL:Bonobo/GeneralError:1.0 : Child process did not give an error message, unknown failure occurred"
[05:50] <scott_> did any one hear about the firefox crop circle?
[05:51] <Volvo> how to change between opened channel Tabs, while using IRSSI
[05:51] <abo> lamego, I'm checking it out
[05:51] <erUSUL> Volvo: Alt + n
[05:51] <mcphail> Volvo: "alt + number"
[05:51] <tyler_d> Jmod: did that work?
[05:51] <scott_> Volvo you can hit esc and the number as well
[05:51] <FurryNemesis> Scott_ really?
[05:51] <Volvo> ok thanks but i cann't see your nick its in yellow color, how to change that as well
[05:51] <Jmod> sweet it worked thanks for the sudo nautilus but how come it will not let me browse to it just from my user name?
[05:51] <scott_> FurryNemesis really about what?
[05:52] <tyler_d> Jmod: root access needed to get on? not sure why
[05:52] <FurryNemesis> kads, the workaround is here if you can't see it: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238668&highlight=synaptic
[05:52] <tyler_d> Jmod: took about 45 mins to figure it out yesterday
[05:52] <FurryNemesis> scott_, what FF crop circle?
 thanks it works now
[05:52] <linux_user400354> has anyone got gmailfs to work?
[05:52] <tyler_d> now, anyone know why my apps aren't showing up in panel?
[05:52] <lamego> Jmod, did you read my text ?
[05:53] <lamego> Jmod, specially the gid option part ?
[05:53] <tanath> tyler_d: try loggin out and back in? restarting x?
[05:53] <scott_> FurryNemesis http://lug.oregonstate.edu/index.php/Projects/Firefox/Firefox_Circle
[05:53] <Jmod> humm... ok can I make a shortcut to this in the menu?
[05:53] <hype> hi everyone :)
[05:53] <tyler_d> tanath: yes I have, its specifically gaim and aMsn that aren't showing up
[05:53] <scott_> FurryNemesis it was on slashdot, digg, and redigg
[05:53] <hype> any chances to have FEAR combat running on Ubuntu?
[05:53] <willys_fueguino> how can I extract a multipart rar archive with mc?? whtas the command???
[05:54] <tyler_d> tanath: gaim shows up in its own little box, and Amsn isn't showing up anywhere
[05:54] <tyler_d> tanath: but is running
[05:54] <tanath> tyler_d: i've had that prob with amsn, but not gaim
[05:54] <linux_user400354> willys_fueguino: you have to have rar installed
[05:54] <tanath> tyler_d: that's what amsn did sometimes. the tray icon was floating basically
[05:54] <tyler_d> tanath: yes
[05:54] <tyler_d> tanath: how do I view running apps to close them?
[05:55] <lamego> Jmod, if you add the gid option, you dont need a shortcut, the ntfs partition will be mounted will access for your user
[05:55] <tanath> tyler_d: gps is one
[05:55] <lamego> without any special command
[05:55] <B_166-ER-X> is there a way to 'downgrade' the gnome-screensaver to the version there wasin Breezy ?   the dapper version is  VERY dumbed down..
[05:55] <tanath> tyler_d: or in terminal it's the ps command, like: ps -ef
[05:55] <it1957> mepis, kubuntu live cd work, ubnuntu live locks up on mounting root file system?
[05:55] <zyklon-b> slm
[05:55] <scott_> tyler_d run ps aux | grep <the app you want to find>    or   top
[05:55] <lamego> B_166-ER-X, no
[05:55] <B_166-ER-X> ..
[05:55] <tyler_d> scott_: installing gps
[05:55] <willys_fueguino> linux_user400354: its not possible having installed just mc??
[05:56] <tanath> tyler_d: Applications > Accessories > gps
[05:56] <B_166-ER-X> I dont know who had the 'bright' idea to 'stupid simplify' the gnome-screensaver, but all the useful options are gone, and its frustrating.
[05:56] <linux_user400354> willys_fueguino: probably not
[05:56] <scott_> tyler_d i just got gpsbabel up and going
[05:56] <DanaG> How do I get my system to add itself to /etc/hosts?
[05:56] <Jmod> Thanks: lamego I'll do that
[05:57] <willys_fueguino> linux_user400354: I'll try after installing rar and I'll let you know
[05:57] <erUSUL> B_166-ER-X: you can install xscreensaver
[05:57] <unkn0wn2u> DanaG, its already there your localhost
[05:57] <lamego> DanaG, hum ? you just need to have 127.0.0.1 in there, matching your hostname
[05:57] <tyler_d> scott_: how do I kill the programs in terminal?
[05:57] <willys_fueguino> linux_user400354: I already have it installed
[05:57] <willys_fueguino> :-S
[05:58] <scott_> tyler_d if your focused on it... ctrl-c
[05:58] <Luke> erUSUL: I dont want to compile a kernel I just want a deb package of a later version that has been packaged for Ubuntu
[05:58] <scott_> tyler_d if you know its pid,  kill <pid>
[05:58] <JDahl> after I loaded the correct module for my wireless card (assuming it's the right one), how do I setup wlan?  Networking only shows eth0
[05:58] <tyler_d> scott_: not showing up anywhere, thats why I want it dead
[05:58] <lamego> Luke, for which software ?
[05:58] <tyler_d> scott_: pid?
[05:58] <willys_fueguino> how can I extract a multipart rar archive with mc?? whtas the command???
[05:58] <scott_> process id
[05:58] <Luke> lamego: for ubuntu
[05:58] <lamego> Luke, i mean, which software package do you want ?
[05:58] <tyler_d> scott_: got that... how would I find that out using gps?
[05:58] <scott_> tyler_d is it holding up your terminal?
[05:58] <tanath> tyler_d: ps tells you the process id, then you can kill it with kill <pid>
[05:58] <willys_fueguino> *what's
[05:59] <dwlfi> I'm new to ubuntu i just installed it...i have only one resolution by default i guess, and i need to install my video driver i guess
[05:59] <Luke> lamego: k7 kernel image
[05:59] <tanath> tyler_d: but gps can do it too
[05:59] <dwlfi> how do i do that?
[05:59] <lamego> luke, and why do you need a more recent version ?
[05:59] <knoppix> hi all have problem with rar archives. when i try to unrar the archiv it tells me "invalid password" and the archiv doesnt have any password
[05:59] <Luke> lamego: there are bugs in the -26 stable
[05:59] <tyler_d> tanath: but how do I know which one is amsn
[05:59] <humean> Hi, i just installed 6.06, and emacs, and python-mode, but when I emacs a .py file it does not have syntax highlighting, even though emacs appears to be in Python mode.
[05:59] <tanath> tyler_d: but you need to run sudo gps to kill apps not owned by you
[05:59] <lamego> Luke, ok, i am using k7, it runs fine for me
[05:59] <lamego> anyway you can use the 686 or 386, you will not fill the difference
[06:00] <willys_fueguino> knoppix: I'm trying to extract a multi-part rar archive with mc but How do I do it?
[06:00] <lamego> feel
[06:00] <Luke> lamego: you probably dont have the same hardware as me
[06:00] <it1957> why does kubuntu and mepis live cd boot and ubuntu not?  lock up on mounting root file system.
[06:00] <dwlfi> does anyone know how to install drivers in ubuntu?
[06:00] <Luke> dwlfi: what kind of drivers?
[06:00] <lamego> Luke, sure, buy you are unlikely to find a newer kernel version for dapper
[06:00] <knoppix> just open one of them and press extract
[06:00] <scott_> FurryNemesis did you check the site out?
[06:00] <tyler_d> tanath: one user
[06:00] <gawain3> New to Ubuntu. Cant play DVDs...Dont have enough permissions, or the drive is empty. Drive aint empty, so how do I get permissions>
[06:00] <tanath> tyler_d: it's actually displayed as wish
[06:01] <abhinay> i have cgwd themer ,& imported some themes,  how to install them (or how to set themes) ?
[06:01] <Luke> lamego: edgy has later kernel versions
just open one of them and press extract
[06:01] <tanath> tyler_d: cause that's the command used. click File > display long proc names
[06:01] <lamego> Luke, sure, and its highly unstable
[06:01] <tyler_d> tanath: amsn is displayed as wish?
[06:01] <lamego> major version upgrades go into edgy
[06:01] <tanath> tyler_d: you'll see it's actually 'wish /usr/bin/amsn'
[06:01] <willys_fueguino> knoppix: but the problem is; Where is extract? :-S
[06:01] <Luke> lamego: i know, its better to be unstable than to not work at all
[06:01] <FurryNemesis> scott_, maybe later thanks, kind of busy here
[06:01] <tanath> tyler_d: because of the command used to run it
[06:02] <Luke> lamego: do you know how to get a deb package of the edgy kernel or not?
[06:02] <lamego> Luke, have you tried the 686 or 383 kernels ?
[06:02] <knoppix> what archiv prog do u use?
[06:02] <tyler_d> tanath: killed
[06:02] <Luke> lamego: no that is a good idea though
[06:02] <lamego> Luke, yes you can get it from the edgy repositories, ot for the alpha cd, but it is unlileky to work on dapper
[06:02] <lamego> because of the compiler and other distro tools which have changed for edgy
[06:02] <tanath> tyler_d: you could have right clicked on the floating tray icon and clicked close...
[06:02] <lukketto> lamego: 383 kernel? Is it a harley? ;)
[06:02] <J-_> whenever i leave my system on over night, it tends to hang the next day, which I restart the system and works like it did before. any suggestions?
[06:03] <Jmod> it there a way to grab all the text from a single user in this chat or do you have to cut from each line probably a dumb question.
[06:03] <lamego> Luke, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[06:03] <tanath> tyler_d: or from the buddy list
[06:03] <tyler_d> tanath: and do you know why its floating like that... no not that one
[06:03] <bclinch> Hello, I am starting out with Python can anybody recommend a good gui for using it?!?
[06:03] <lamego> ops, 386 :P
[06:03] <lamego> bclinch, idle or spe
[06:03] <tanath> tyler_d: not really. mine kinda fixed automagically
 : what archiv prog do u use?
[06:03] <tanath> tyler_d: dunno what i did
[06:03] <willys_fueguino> mc knoppix
[06:03] <tyler_d> tanath: gotta love when that happens
[06:03] <tanath> tyler_d:  :D
[06:03] <knoppix> install ark
[06:03] <B_166-ER-X> how can i add and entry 'manually' in the Gnome menu's ? (like in 'applications' or 'system'    )
[06:04] <tyler_d> tanath: next question, installing an intel cs120 webcam?
[06:04] <knoppix> i use it
[06:04] <humean> how do you turn on python syntax highlighting in emacs? I installed python-mode...
[06:04] <Liohs> ok is there a way i can view a terminal over SSH
[06:04] <linux_user400354> willys_fueguino: man rar
[06:04] <erUSUL> B_166-ER-X: with alacarte ??
[06:04] <lamego> B_166-ER-X, Applications -> Accessories -> Alacarte
[06:04] <Dattasmoon> i am having troubles rerouting traffic from port 80 to port 3128 using iptables, can anyone help?
[06:05] <tanath> tyler_d: there's a number of webcam apps...
[06:05] <tyler_d> how do you restart x without rebooting?
[06:05] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[06:05] <Liohs> like i have rtorrent running on tty6
[06:05] <humean> tyler_d: alt-ctrl-backspace
[06:05] <lamego> tyler_d, CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE
[06:05] <dwlfi> graphics card drivers... integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900, for xps m140
[06:05] <Liohs> and i want to view that on ssh
[06:05] <knoppix> willys_fueguino or use xarchiver
[06:05] <tyler_d> tanath: I am trying camorama
[06:05] <dwlfi> i dont know how to install them in ubuntu
[06:05] <tyler_d> ty humean and lamego
[06:05] <tanath> tyler_d: http://pastebin.ca/138980
[06:05] <knoppix> and install the pack rar/unrar
[06:05] <humean> Liohs: have you looked at the program 'screen'? it's fabulous
[06:05] <knoppix> and install the pack rar/unrar willys_fueguino
[06:06] <droogy> how do I refresh my ip address
[06:06] <willys_fueguino> knoppix: the rar package is already installed
[06:06] <knoppix> cool
[06:06] <J-_> whenever i leave my system on over night, it tends to hang the next day, which I restart the system and works like it did before. any suggestions?
[06:06] <Luke> lamego: https://launchpad.net/bugs/54273 <-- do you think this bug would be fixed in 686 or 386?
[06:06] <knoppix> willys_fueguino cool
[06:06] <dwlfi> ntegrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 driver...how do i install it in ubuntu?
[06:06] <lamego> J-_, try disabling acpi
[06:06] <knoppix> then install ark or xarchiver willys_fueguino
[06:06] <pepsi> http://www.speakeasy.org/~jbutera/twos.jpg
[06:06] <J-_> lamego: how would i do that?
[06:06] <lamego> J-_, use acpi=off on the kernel boot options
[06:07] <tyler_d> nope... didn't work
[06:07] <humean> ] 0_ have you adjusted the power saving stuff to turn off suspend or hibernate? that is buggy sometimes. also do you have any binary-only drivers like nvidia?
[06:07] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> In Ubuntu is suspend like, suspend2ram?  Or is it more of a hibernate method?
[06:07] <linux_user400354> knoppix: he doesnt want a gui. hes using mc
[06:07] <tyler_d> tanath: didn't fly
[06:07] <nso> How do you take off a KDE login screen?
[06:07] <lamego> J-_, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:07] <Liohs> Is there a way to view a local tremial over ssh?
[06:07] <knoppix> a ok
[06:07] <knoppix> sec
[06:07] <waspius> how can i make ark give me the option to extract without needing to open ark?
[06:07] <sharperguy> whats is an mc,  is it like a dj?
[06:07] <knoppix> willys_fueguino sec
[06:07] <Luke> Liohs: you should look at screen
[06:08] <Liohs> i have
[06:08] <Luke> !screen > Liohs
[06:08] <tanath> tyler_d: usb right?
[06:08] <Liohs> no clue how to use it
[06:08] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> MC=Midnight Commander
[06:08] <snoops> how can I play midi files in ubuntu?
[06:08] <droogy> Is there a way to 'renew' the ip on ubuntu?
[06:08] <tyler_d> tanath: yup
[06:08] <tanath> tyler_d: does it show up in usbview?
[06:08] <lamego> add the acpi=off on the kernel line
[06:08] <willys_fueguino> knoppix:
[06:08] <tyler_d> tanath: where's that?
[06:08] <humean> droogy: ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0
[06:08] <tanath> tyler_d: run it in a terminal, or with ALT+F2
[06:08] <willys_fueguino> knoppix: Forgive me 'Cause I'm stupid
[06:08] <knoppix> no u r not
[06:09] <knoppix> relax
[06:09] <linux__alien> i ordered for 10 cds one month back when would i get the CDS. i am from India
[06:09] <tanath> tyler_d: actually, i have it in Apps > system tools
[06:09] <B_166-ER-X> Synaptic shows that alacarte is installed, but i cannot find it anywhere :|
[06:09] <willys_fueguino> knoppix: let me finish
[06:09] <knoppix> ok
[06:09] <humean> B_166: try open a shell and type the name of the program you want to run
[06:09] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> B_166-ER-X: generally Applications>Accesories
[06:09] <lukketto> B_166:application-->accessories
[06:09] <willys_fueguino> knoppix: I double-click the file and now is extracting...
[06:09] <tanath> B_166-ER-X:  dpkg -L alacarte
[06:09] <B_166-ER-X> GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop,  yeap, not there
[06:09] <willys_fueguino> knoppix: all I nedded wa to install rar
[06:10] <lamego> B_166-ER-X, Applications -> Accessiores
[06:10] <willys_fueguino> *was
[06:10] <lamego> B_166-ER-X, run it from the terminal
[06:10] <lamego> "alacarte"
[06:10] <knoppix> ok
[06:10] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> So who want's to help me out with my question, eh? :D
[06:10] <tyler_d> tanath: yes its there
[06:10] <droogy> humean: I'm not going to remember that in future.... any way to get an icon setup to do that?
[06:10] <knoppix> willys_fueguino ok
[06:10] <knoppix> so it is ok now willys_fueguino
[06:10] <gutano> can anyone point me to a howto for vacation mail through postfix (or through my courier-imap)
[06:10] <willys_fueguino> knoppix: what do you think now?? I'm  stupid man.. admite that you think that
[06:10] <B_166-ER-X> after the dpkg, it works from terminal, but still not in the menus, weird. anyway, thkx
[06:10] <alek> hi I have 2 computers and second is used by ssh. how can I send file to this second computer? (earlier I was using httpd)
[06:11] <knoppix> no willys_fueguino
[06:11] <willys_fueguino> knoppix: (well... at least I think that)
[06:11] <willys_fueguino> xDD
[06:11] <Volvo> what does this XD stands for ?
[06:11] <knoppix> willys_fueguino i have a password problem at my end
[06:11] <tanath> B_166-ER-X: all the dpkg command did was list the files installed from that package
[06:11] <lamego> guapo, try google, i found: http://www.clarkconnect.com/wiki/index.php?title=Howtos_-_Procmail_Vacation_Auto-Reply_Recipe
[06:11] <slacker_nl> alek: scp will be your friend
[06:11] <alek> slacker_nl, thx =] 
[06:11] <willys_fueguino> good luck with that knoppix
[06:11] <lamego> alek, both are using ubuntu ?
[06:11] <knoppix> willys_fueguino and i dont think that the archiv realy have a password on it
[06:12] <willys_fueguino> thanks for your help
[06:12] <alek> lamego, yes
[06:12] <willys_fueguino> knoppix: are you sure??
[06:12] <lamego> alef0, you can use the command line sftp/scp commands, or you can use nautilus
[06:12] <knoppix> yep
[06:12] <HumanPrototype> hi all
[06:12] <tyler_d> tanath: still doesn't want to connect to it though
[06:12] <lamego> Places -> Connect To Server
[06:12] <lamego> alef0 = alek
[06:12] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> How can I get my Laptop to actually display a picture again after closing the lid, without using Suspend2?  I have it set to the default "blank screen" option, but this new laptop is a bitch and the screen won't come back on afterwards
[06:12] <knoppix> gave it to my freind and he unrar it just fine
[06:12] <HumanPrototype> if im just about to install 64bit ubuntu on an amd x2 machine is there anything i should know?
[06:12] <slacker_nl> lamego: nautilus supports sftp/scp?
[06:12] <tanath> tyler_d: usbview is jsut to see if ubuntu sees it
[06:12] <willys_fueguino> knoppix: You should try to do what you want using winrar trough wine
[06:13] <Liohs> ok i have screen installed
[06:13] <lamego> slacker_nl, it supports ssh
[06:13] <humean> droogy: put the line in a file whose name ends with .sh then you can click it and it will run
[06:13] <tanath> tyler_d: it lists deviced connected by usb
[06:13] <lamego> ftp over ssh
[06:13] <Liohs> but not sure how to use it
[06:13] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> Actually, preferably without using suspend2, i'd rather just have it sit idle.....
[06:13] <tyler_d> tanath: ok? so now what?
[06:13] <tanath> tyler_d: if so, one of the webcam apps ought to work
[06:13] <slacker_nl> lamego: chill, didn't know that
[06:13] <alek> lamego, second pc uses ubuntu server without xorg so it seems Ihave to use scp
[06:13] <willys_fueguino> knoppix: So that way you will be sure sure that tha file doesn't have a passwd
[06:13] <tanath> tyler_d: if not, then you'd have a different prob
[06:13] <lamego> slacker_nl, you have an "SSH" option on the connect to server ;)
[06:13] <slacker_nl> can't test it as well..
[06:13] <knoppix> willys_fueguino it doesnt happening with all the rar archives just a couple of them
[06:13] <Jmod> why is my screen so fuzzy it wasn't so fuzzy in windows?
[06:14] <lamego> alek, you only need xorg on the system you are connecting from
[06:14] <lamego> xorg/nautilus
[06:14] <joako> hi
[06:14] <willys_fueguino> knoppix: ouch!!!!
[06:14] <Jimbo> i just built a Gigabyte_DS3 + Core2 Duo E6600 and ubuntu doesn't seem to like it. it gets to "mounting root file system" then it craps out. i think it can't detect the drives or something. I'm using SataII. It appears to be a problem across all distros. which gives me the impression that it's the kernel. Note, everything works fine in windows.
[06:14] <knoppix> well never mind willys_fueguino
[06:14] <lamego> Jmod, have you properly configurex Xorg ?
[06:14] <willys_fueguino> knoppix: I have the same problem that you!!!
[06:14] <joako> someone can hibernate or suspend your laptop????
[06:14] <slacker_nl> lamego: ahh I see, well new thing learned
[06:14] <HumanPrototype> Jimbo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238765 try that>?
[06:14] <ipod> Hi @ ALl
[06:15] <ipod> hi @ all
[06:15] <Ych> !nfs
[06:15] <tanath> tyler_d: maybe try camstream or something?
[06:15] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[06:15] <willys_fueguino> knoppix: I'll try to use winrar with wine later....
[06:15] <Jmod> no probably not (configurex Xorg) let me try that
[06:15] <Jimbo> HumanPrototype: thanks
[06:15] <knoppix> willys_fueguino i m going to a freind to unrar some tv show cya
[06:15] <jamesstansell> my son picked out a Sansa E250 for his birthday.  does anyone have experience with one of these?
[06:15] <HumanPrototype> Jimbo: that thread links here which may help - http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=120571
[06:15] <tyler_d> tanath: ty for all your help... I will hunt one down... l8r people
[06:15] <willys_fueguino> knoppix: And i'll tell you
[06:15] <knoppix> 10x
[06:15] <joako> can tellme how suspend a laptop
[06:15] <Jimbo> ok
[06:15] <compilerwriter> I could use some help with sendmail.
[06:15] <joako> the monitor show only lines
[06:16] <joako> when i try
[06:16] <ipod> WOT TYME IS CAPTCLIT ON EMM TEE VEE JAQCUMLAPPER?
[06:16] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> joako: did you try just changing the settings in the power management options?
[06:16] <knoppix> if u can email it to me its knoppix6230@gmail.com
[06:16] <slacker_nl> stop shouting
[06:16] <ipod> okat
[06:16] <ipod> OKAT
[06:16] <ipod> okay[tm] 
[06:16] <slacker_nl> ...
[06:16] <knoppix> if u can email it to me its knoppix6230@gmail.com willys_fueguino
[06:16] <knoppix> bye man
[06:16] <willys_fueguino> knoppix: IF everything is ok, I'll mail you
[06:16] <knoppix> bye man and 10x willys_fueguino
[06:16] <ipod> I'll mail you some goatse pr0n :)
[06:17] <willys_fueguino> bytes
[06:17] <Liohs> can some one help me with screen?
[06:17] <compilerwriter> Anybody here feel like fielding a sendmail series of questions?
[06:17] <slacker_nl> Liohs: what you want to know?
[06:18] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> heh
[06:18] <Liohs> ok i have some thing running on tty6
[06:18] <Liohs> basicly i just want to be able to see it
[06:18] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> nalioth: he's back already :D
[06:18] <nalioth> Liohs: http://jmcpherson.org/screen.html http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/07/06/unix_gems.html
[06:18] <slacker_nl> Liohs: and you started the process within screen?
[06:19] <humean> liohs: you would have to start the process from inside screen
[06:19] <tanath> need help. whenever i log in an error pops up saying Unable to start gnome settings daemon, and this: " IDL:Bonobo/GeneralError:1.0 : Child process did not give an error message, unknown failure occurred"
[06:19] <Liohs> ok
[06:19] <Liohs> i get it now
[06:19] <santa99> !fs-driver
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fs-driver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <tanath> and gnome-panel exits
[06:19] <joako> GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop, yes i tryes but when i return my monitor show only horizontal lines
[06:19] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> hmm
[06:19] <tanath> i added gnome-panel to my session, so i'm functional now, but i'd like to get this fixed
[06:19] <Miek> I'm having problems running most games, i get "Could not initialize SDL Video subsystem: No I/O port permissions." or similar. Can anyone help?
[06:19] <joako> i have a inspiron 640m
[06:19] <santa99> does anyone know something about fs-driver ?
[06:19] <Tamale> what are your problems with the newest updates
[06:20] <slob0zz> Bye :)
[06:20] <DanaG> !samba
[06:20] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:20] <dwlfi> can anyone help me with installing a graphics driver?
[06:20] <Inferus> Hi all, i'm just installing ubuntu now on my laptop, which has a widescreen... Does ubuntu actually support this resolution please? It only appears to support 4x3 on the install screen
[06:20] <jamesstansell> I'm trying to help my son with his Sansa e250 using Dapper 6.06.1 - it connected the first day but it won't do it anymore
[06:20] <dwlfi> or point me in the right direction?
[06:20] <HumanPrototype> dwlfi: what gfx card?
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[06:20] <santa99> dwlfi, what card ?
[06:20] <dwlfi> Intel Pentium M Processor 760
[06:20] <dwlfi> oops
[06:20] <slacker_nl> Inferus: yes, I have a dell inspiron 8600 and its working fine
[06:20] <HumanPrototype> dwlfi: interesting gfx card that
[06:20] <dwlfi> integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900
[06:20] <Ych> how do i change the color of the text and the background in a console?
[06:20] <snoops> how do I go about playing midi files in ubuntu?
[06:20] <insub> i ran Ubuntu on a 486
[06:20] <Tamale> santa99: fs-driver.org
[06:20] <Tamale>  ?
[06:21] <santa99> Tamale, would like to know how the work
[06:21] <compilerwriter> Anybody here use sendmail?
[06:21] <humean> easyubuntu has an option to install midi playing
[06:21] <dwlfi> this is the card: integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900
[06:21] <humean> ^^snoops
[06:21] <dwlfi> sorry im new to all of this
[06:21] <Miek> nalioth: is there no way to block that in the ircd?
[06:21] <FurryNemesis> !fluxbox
[06:21] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[06:21] <Inferus> slacker_nl well how did you set up a widescreen res?
[06:21] <Tamale> santa99: Just install that problem in windows and you will be able to read your linux filsystems
[06:21] <dwlfi> i just installed ubuntu and i need a different resolution the default is ugly as hell
[06:21] <slacker_nl> Inferus: Ubuntu did it for me :)
[06:21] <nalioth> Miek: unfortunately, not at this time
[06:21] <jamesstansell> !sansa
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sansa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> Net split?
[06:22] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> :)
[06:22] <elkbuntu> no, moronic exploit
[06:22] <nalioth> GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop: not quite
[06:22] <snoops> humean don't really want to use easyubuntu.. my system is perfect besides midi
[06:22] <amee2k_> i'm trying to install ubuntu 6.06-ppc on a G3 Mac (prolly old world, not sure tho. came with OS8.5) but it doesn't boot from the cd-rom, but instead keeps a blinking macos-folder-logo on the screen. how can i get it to boot from the CD drive?
[06:22] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> nalioth: is lilo around ATM?
[06:22] <keithhhh> does anyone use open movie editor????
[06:22] <dwlfi> does anyone think they can help?
[06:22] <nalioth> GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop: ask him
[06:22] <santa99> Tamale, I know what fs-drivers do but i want to know if they also read EXT3 because they only mention EXT2 and i would like to know if there a errors reading and writing on ext3
[06:23] <dwlfi> integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900...driver installation?
[06:23] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> nalioth: he never responds to me, been trying for  2 weeks :P
[06:23] <Liohs> ok
[06:23] <snoops> santa99 I've been using the ext2 driver to write to my ext3 drives on a windows box for a few months.. no problems
[06:23] <Tamale> ext3 is just ext2 with a bigger file support
[06:23] <Tamale> right?
[06:23] <Tamale> it's the same.
[06:23] <nalioth> GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop: he's right over there >>>
[06:23] <Tamale> it works fine with ext3
[06:23] <Liohs> do i have to be loged in as that user?
[06:23] <knoppix> It was down load error when redownloaded the archive from the net it wasnt password protected any more
[06:23] <snoops> no.. ext3 has larger file support, as well as journalling
[06:23] <Tamale> that's right.
[06:23] <compilerwriter> well curses.
[06:24] <sharperguy> ncurses?
[06:24] <santa99> snoops, ok that was what i want to know thx
[06:24] <santa99> Tamale,  thanks anyway
[06:24] <jdahm> is there a problem with the US archive server?
[06:24] <Tamale> santa99: the important thing is that fs-driver works 100% with ext3
[06:24] <jdahm> because its not working for me
[06:24] <keithhhh> does anyone use open movie editor????
[06:24] <jimmygoon> is there NOT a problem with the US server?
[06:24] <Tamale> i know 'cause i use it every day
[06:24] <RudyValencia> Good morning. I'm trying to mount a Samba share under Ubuntu dapper and when I try to open a file the application it opens in crashes. I don't know why this is happening. "dmesg | tail" indicates "CIFS VFS: Send error in read = -13". I'm able to connect fine with smbclient, and everything else is good. Why won't it mount?
[06:24] <dwlfi> ok new question....does anyone know of a channel i can go to that will be able to help me install the integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900
[06:25] <santa99> Tamale, That was what I would like to know 100% is always good
[06:25] <jimmygoon> I have problems frequently with it, but I started an apt-get, it looked like it was going to fail, but then I came back and it was done :)
[06:25] <Liohs> will screen let me look at other users terminals?
[06:25] <lamego> RudyValencia, it seems to be a problem with the filesystem "driver"
[06:25] <jdahm> jimmygoon, hmm because its not working when I install some packages, I changed my sources.list but it still seems to use the US mirrors
[06:25] <lamego> RudyValencia, are you using smbfs or cifs ?
[06:25] <jdahm> is there some way to recache the sources.list?
[06:25] <RudyValencia> CIFS
[06:26] <erUSUL> RudyValencia: it seems a kernel error in the CIFS module... maybe an incompatibility between CIFS an windows
[06:26] <lamego> jdahm, did you sudo apt-get update ?
[06:26] <jimmygoon> I'll be back soon...
[06:26] <jdahm> lamego, nope :P
[06:26] <lamego> jdahm, you need it :)
[06:26] <RudyValencia> The server I am connecting to is also running Samba.
[06:26] <lamego> RudyValencia, try with smbfs
[06:26] <RudyValencia> OK
[06:27] <lollll432423432> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[06:27] <frogzoo> !ops
[06:27] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[06:27] <lamego> mirc users
[06:27] <joako> someone can helpme to suspend my laptop, a inspiron 640m, when y try show only green lines
[06:28] <RudyValencia> I get 23175: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[06:28] <RudyValencia> SMB connection failed
[06:28] <rayston> I need help with a new HD, I just plugged in a new IDE hard drive, it is showing up in Disks, is enabled, I can even browse to it just fine, but I cant seem to copy anything to it, it says I dont have permissions, how do I add permissions?
[06:28] <saloxin> hey, anyone know a good reason why my keyboard stoped working after an upgrade? i can ssh in, and keyboard works under other os
[06:28] <lamego> rayston, what is the partition type, ntfs ?
[06:28] <rayston> ext3
[06:29] <halorgium> how can i tell ubuntu to reconfigure my video card?
[06:29] <rayston> the partition type is ext3, since thats what all my other partitions are, and it was the default
[06:30] <nalioth>  ATTENTION FOLKS, PLEASE REGISTER AND / OR IDENTIFY TO SERVICES TO TALK HERE IN #ubuntu PLEASE SEE FOR INSTRUCTIONS  http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[06:30] <TheGame> ok
[06:30] <rayston> lamego : the partition type is ext3, since thats what all my other partitions are, and it was the default
[06:30] <TheGame> so any1 want to help me with my touchpad today
[06:30] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> nalioth: why not /notice?
[06:30] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> Actually nvm
[06:30] <nalioth> GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop: because /notice wakes people up
[06:31] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> heh
[06:31] <Miek> nalioth: why not get the affected people to use an alternate port?
[06:31] <bachler> hmm, if I want to install a older version of a a program. via apt..  how do i do that?
[06:31] <RudyValencia> lamego: I got it now, just need to set up "universal" access to the share
[06:32] <halorgium> anyone?
[06:32] <mrDaniel> I have installed xgl and it works very fine, but know when i try to start a xgl-session, i get this error back http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/2985/
[06:32] <halorgium> i don't know which package to run in dpkg-reconfigure
[06:32] <jamesstansell> bachler: does your sources.list reference the older archive?
[06:32] <nalioth> Miek: we are banning all those users into #ubuntu-ops so that we may instruct them on this
[06:32] <mrDaniel> do anyone know what the error could be and what i have to do to solve this?
[06:32] <frogzoo> halorgium: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[06:32] <halorgium> thanks
[06:32] <bachler> jamesstansell: i have not changed my sources.list at all
[06:32] <halorgium> frogzoo: i'm kinda in the console as root :P (no sudo)
[06:33] <Miek> ah, ok :)
[06:33] <frogzoo> halorgium: so no sudo
[06:33] <elkbuntu> ATTENTION FOLKS, PLEASE REGISTER AND / OR IDENTIFY TO SERVICES TO TALK HERE IN #ubuntu PLEASE SEE FOR INSTRUCTIONS  http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[06:33] <frogzoo> school holidays?
[06:33] <jamesstansell> bachler: if you do apt-cache showpkg <program> does the version of the program you want appear in the list of known versions?
[06:34] <bachler> jamesstansell: no, it does not, in fact i se no versionnumber at all
[06:34] <bachler> jamesstansell: oh.. wait..
[06:35] <halorgium> yay, i'm back online :)
[06:35] <halorgium> cheers frogzoo
[06:36] <bachler> jamesstansell: no.. it only shows the current verion and i want an older
[06:36] <funkmaster> hi ppl can some1 help me with mgetty and sendfax? i think mgetty and vgetty work properly but i can't sned any faxes
[06:37] <elkbuntu> ATTENTION FOLKS, PLEASE REGISTER AND / OR IDENTIFY TO SERVICES TO TALK HERE IN #ubuntu PLEASE SEE FOR INSTRUCTIONS  http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[06:37] <funkmaster> i get faxq-helper: can't get user ID for user 'fax', abort!
[06:37] <funkmaster> can't create new job directory, give up
[06:37] <funkmaster> any1 can help me with this?
[06:37] <bachler> funkmaster: du you have a user called fax?
[06:37] <jamesstansell> bachler: I can't recommend an older binary for most situations, but there's two ways to install one
[06:38] <jamesstansell> bachler: if you're familiar with compiling from source that would be a 3rd way that would likely have better results
[06:39] <bachler> jamesstansell: yeah.. thats the problem.. i think a new libssl broke the older version
[06:39] <elkbuntu> ATTENTION FOLKS, PLEASE REGISTER AND / OR IDENTIFY TO SERVICES TO TALK HERE IN #ubuntu PLEASE SEE FOR INSTRUCTIONS  http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[06:39] <jamesstansell> bachler: are you running Dapper?  what older version of package do you want to install?
[06:39] <tanath> need help. whenever i log in an error pops up saying Unable to start gnome settings daemon, and this: " IDL:Bonobo/GeneralError:1.0 : Child process did not give an error message, unknown failure occurred"
[06:39] <bachler> jamesstansell: ah.. well. ill just se if i can fix that myself..  thanks for the help anyway
[06:39] <funkmaster> bachler: no i didn't create one
[06:39] <sharperguy> whats the page with the win $100 for making an ubuntu vid?
[06:39] <funkmaster> i installed the ubuntu mgetty package
[06:40] <elkbuntu> sharperguy, ubuntuvideo.com
[06:40] <funkmaster> but i read when u install it from source u have to change a setting in the make file to set a user, does the ubuntu package set something by default?
[06:40] <sharperguy> so it is, i dont remember it being that
[06:40] <sharperguy> chers
[06:41] <RudyValencia> OK so I got my Samba working, but xmms is kinda weirded out about some of my songs, like, "-16405:-27" looks funny don't it?
[06:42] <elkbuntu> ATTENTION FOLKS, PLEASE REGISTER AND / OR IDENTIFY TO SERVICES TO TALK HERE IN #ubuntu PLEASE SEE FOR INSTRUCTIONS  http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[06:42] <TheGame> IVE DONE IT
[06:42] <TheGame> finally
[06:42] <TheGame> got rid of that stupid touchpad
[06:42] <rayston> I just added a new hard drive, but it says I dont have permissions when I try to add files to it
[06:43] <mrDaniel> when i try to start Xgl i got this error http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/2985/
[06:43] <TheGame> mrDaniel: try asking in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:43] <mrDaniel> what is a GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest and what can i do to solve this problem?
[06:43] <mrDaniel> thx you thegam
[06:43] <mrDaniel> e
[06:44] <bclinch>  can anybody please tell me why i can't get tars to install?!?
[06:44] <tanath> arduse this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168618
[06:44] <nalioth> bclinch: tars are container files, you unpack them
[06:44] <Dattasmoon> in iptables does destination nat screw with redirect? i cannot, for the life of me, get port 80 redirected to 3128
[06:44] <lamego> bclinch, because you need to understnad what is a tar
[06:45] <bclinch> i meant, how to install stuff from a tar!!
[06:45] <rayston> I just added a new hard drive, but it says I dont have permissions when I try to add files to it
[06:45] <funkmaster> rayston: how did u moutn it?
[06:45] <jamesstansell> bclinch: what's an example of a tar you want to install?
[06:45] <tanath> mrDaniel: use this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168618
[06:45] <elkbuntu> ATTENTION FOLKS, PLEASE REGISTER AND / OR IDENTIFY TO SERVICES TO TALK HERE IN #ubuntu PLEASE SEE FOR INSTRUCTIONS  http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[06:45] <funkmaster> u probably need to set permission
[06:45] <lamego> rayston, what is the partition type on that hard drive ?
[06:45] <bruenig> bclinch, it depends on the package, tars are containers, you need to unpack it, then navigate to the new unpacked directory and depending on the package do certain things after that
[06:46] <rayston> lamego : it is an ext3
[06:46] <bclinch> i want to install flock, ./configure says no such file or directory make doesn't like it either none of it works, i have  build essential installed etc...
[06:47] <Lattyware> Hey, could anyone help me with setting up a TV card?
[06:47] <bruenig> bclinch, give me the url for the download, I will lok at it
[06:47] <funkmaster> rayston: try to chmod the directory where u mounted the harddrive
[06:47] <bruenig> look*
[06:47] <lamego> rayston, do you have privileges to read the directory you are trying to open ?
[06:47] <funkmaster> Lattyware: shoot what do u wanna know?
[06:47] <bclinch> bruenig, http://flock.com/download/
[06:47] <Ych> !mouse
[06:47] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[06:47] <rayston> lamego : I think so, I can browse into that directory and see the lost+found directory that automatically gets put there
[06:48] <bruenig> bclinch, alright downloading it now, kind of big
[06:48] <Lattyware> I have a TV card, (Tevion - Cheap brand) and I want to get it working, i installed kdetv via the package manager, but I don't get anything when I scan for channels.
[06:48] <lamego> rayston, you need to set the corret permissions, or change the files owner
[06:48] <funkmaster> rayston: chown -R user:group /mounted/driectory
[06:48] <bclinch> bruenig, large but worth it!
[06:48] <__mikem> nalioth, whats with the bans
[06:49] <Lattyware> I don't know if my card has been detected.
[06:49] <jamesstansell> bclinch: flock should be pre-compiled
[06:49] <nalioth> __mikem: why do you ALWAYS ask the same question? i've answered you more than once
[06:49] <bruenig> bclinch, yeah, there is no install
[06:49] <funkmaster> Lattyware: ok first u should be sure that the cable which goes to the tvcard really has tvinput, make sure, maybe conect to a tv just to check
[06:49] <bclinch> jamestansell, how shouldi install it?
[06:49] <__mikem> Because I am curious
[06:49] <insub>  Who loves cake?
[06:49] <__mikem> :)
[06:49] <rayston> the chmod trick funkmaster suggested worked actually
[06:49] <bruenig> bclinch, what directory is it saved in?
[06:49] <rayston> thanx
[06:49] <Lattyware> funkmaster: Allready done, it's definatly not that.
[06:50] <jamesstansell> bclinch: installation should be similar to non-integrated Firefox
[06:50] <bclinch> i downloaded and untarred to desktop
[06:50] <funkmaster> Lattyware: ok then next open synaptic
[06:50] <bruenig> bclinch, ok do this cd ~/Desktop/flock
[06:50] <bruenig> bclinch, then do ./flock
[06:50] <jamesstansell> bclinch: refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion - what you need to do will be similar
[06:50] <Lattyware> done
[06:50] <bclinch> bruenig, done
[06:50] <funkmaster> Lattyware: and install scantv
[06:51] <Miek> I'm having problems running most games, i get "Could not initialize SDL Video subsystem: No I/O port permissions." or similar. Can anyone help?
[06:51] <Lattyware> Done.
[06:51] <funkmaster> Lattyware: btw have u loaded the modules from the kernel
[06:51] <funkmaster> is it a pci card?
[06:51] <funkmaster> if yes do lspci in the command line and c if ur card appears
[06:51] <bruenig> bclinch, that will not install it but will run it, you need to write a script that will automate that and to stay consistent with the linux file hierarchy, i believe you need to move it to /opt, although that doesn't really matter for functionality
[06:51] <Lattyware> No, and yes a PCI card.
[06:52] <funkmaster> Lattyware: if it does not appear u have to load the right modules in the kernel
[06:52] <Lattyware> funkmaster: How do I do that/
[06:52] <funkmaster> so it didn't appear when u did lspci?
[06:53] <Lattyware> *?
[06:53] <Tired_> Hello. The current Ubuntu Live CD...what does it have that I can use to create load on my CPU and monitor the temperature?
[06:53] <funkmaster> Lattyware:  do lspci in the command line and c if ur card appears
[06:53] <doraemon81> any one of u had experience frequently firefox get hang/ quit exception case in ubuntu 6?
[06:53] <bclinch> bruenig, when i cd to flock it says it is a directory
[06:54] <Lattyware> funkmaster: I get a command not found error
[06:54] <bruenig> bclinch, the executable is called flock and it is in the directory called flock
[06:54] <Lattyware> ah, lspci not ispci
[06:54] <Lattyware> :P
[06:54] <funkmaster> Lattyware:  erm that'S strange
[06:54] <funkmaster> try as root lspci
[06:55] <Alteus> hola
[06:55] <funkmaster> heh yes
[06:55] <funkmaster> :)
[06:55] <Lattyware> 0000:02:08.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7134 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)
[06:55] <__mikem> !es
[06:55] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:55] <Lattyware> I'm presuming that is it.
[06:55] <funkmaster> yep should be
[06:55] <Alteus> thkx
[06:56] <Zidane_is_Pwn3r> wheir iz ompaul
[06:56] <funkmaster> ok u could also install TVtime and xawtv these r good tv apps, which i also use
[06:56] <Zidane_is_Pwn3r> TVtime is swinie
[06:56] <bruenig> bclinch, did you get all of that stuff worked out, the script and all?
[06:56] <bclinch> bruenig, i have flock open now, how simple is it to install?
[06:57] <funkmaster> Lattyware:  i just found a post on the forum concerning this card, u should read it http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183977&highlight=install+tvcard
[06:57] <bruenig> bclinch, install is a bit of a misnomer, all that is needed is in that directory, you just run it
[06:57] <nox-Hand> Is there not a music-maker app for Linux (( free )) - I cant remember the good Windows apps, but like Ejay, just....better and less...newbieish?
[06:57] <funkmaster> Lattyware:  erm that'S strange
[06:57] <bclinch> bruenig, thanks alot, in the future, how do i know what to install and what to run?
[06:57] <funkmaster> Lattyware:  appearently there is a problem with this card
[06:57] <Lattyware> just my luch
[06:57] <Lattyware> *luck
[06:58] <Zidane_is_Pwn3r> are zer any italianz heir?
[06:58] <Zidane_is_Pwn3r> i would like to... talk wiz zem
[06:58] <bruenig> bclinch, in theory you should move the flock directory to /opt/ then write a script and put the script in /usr/local/bin that will run it, then you could create a launcher on the desktop or menu if you wanted it or could initiate it by just typing the name of the script in the run dialog or terminal
[06:58] <mrkinder> ez yo bredbins, I is lookin' fo' da ATI drivas n' s**t fo' my motherf***in' AMD64, any of yo mofo's know where I can hit dat?
[06:58] <bclinch> bruenig, thats a bit beyond me i think!
[06:59] <Zidane_is_Pwn3r> \AMD sux
[06:59] <nalioth> Zidane_is_Pwn3r: try #ubuntu-it
[06:59] <Zidane_is_Pwn3r> oooh
[06:59] <bruenig> bclinch, generally just look at the contents of the directory. if it has an exectuable that is the name of the program, more often than not you just run that
[06:59] <bruenig> if it has something called configure, you run that
[06:59] <IceCube> I didn't ask fo yo opinion on da chipset wars innit
[07:00] <bclinch> bruenig, thanks you have really helped me
[07:00] <__mikem> IceCube, please reframe from using abusive language in here
[07:00] <jamesstansell> bruenig: is the flock command actually a script?
[07:00] <__mikem> *refrain
[07:00] <bruenig> jamesstansell, no
[07:00] <Lattyware> funkmaster: OK, so what do you reccomend I do?
[07:00] <IceCube> I do apologise sir, now please could I have all information you have to hand on the matter?
[07:00] <SillyZ> whats the command in 6.06.1 to reconfigue Xwindows ?
[07:00] <IceCube> I'd appreciate it greatly
[07:00] <SillyZ> i know it was xf86config prior but know its changed since then
[07:00] <IceCube> All the boys in the hood shall be so so jealous
[07:01] <__mikem> IceCube, I had plenty of bad experience with ATI, drivers would crash unexpectedly, and crap like that, I would just recomend getting a different card
[07:01] <funkmaster> Lattyware:   I had to modprobe the driver myself with the right info (found by trial and error) and finally set it to load with the correct paramaters on boot.
[07:01] <funkmaster> maybe that
[07:01] <avu> sillyz: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' might be what you're looking for
[07:01] <funkmaster> or go back to breezy
[07:01] <funkmaster> there it seems to work
[07:01] <bruenig> avu, yeah I was going to say that but I was a bit unsure of what he was asking
[07:01] <SillyZ> k thanks avu
[07:01] <Lattyware> right...
[07:01] <Daveyboy> despite using kdm and kde, my vncserver conenction uses a gnome desktop, can anybody help to configure to kde?
[07:02] <ed1t> anybody know of a good iso bootable burning software?
[07:02] <IceCube> Thats all very well but someone got me the answer the other day when I installed the 64 bit version and it all worked fine. Only problem is I'm a noob and didn't realise 64-bit unbuntu was a waste of time for me, so I installed 32 bit
[07:02] <bruenig> Daveyboy, #kubuntu is likely better for you
[07:02] <avu> bruenig: me neither, hence the 'might' ;)
[07:02] <DanaG> !git-core
[07:02] <nalioth> ed1t: k3b ?
[07:02] <ubotu> git-core: content addressable filesystem. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.3-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1741 kB, installed size 4164 kB
[07:02] <DanaG> !kernel
[07:02] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:02] <IceCube> I have had no problems with crashes though
[07:02] <Daveyboy> bruenig, im using kubuntu
[07:02] <bruenig> Daveyboy, I mean the room #kubuntu
[07:02] <__mikem> IceCube, what exatly is it doing that it shouldn't
[07:02] <bruenig> Daveybody, as in do /join #kubuntu
[07:02] <IceCube> Just finding a way to install the drivers that doesn't involve being Stephen Hawking is what I'm after
[07:02] <bruenig> by room I mean channel
[07:02] <__mikem> oh
[07:02] <__mikem> ok
[07:02] <Daveyboy> bruenig, okay
[07:03] <funkmaster> can some1 help me with mgetty and sendfax? i think mgetty and vgetty work properly but i can't sned any faxes
[07:03] <ed1t> nalioth: will it run on xfce?
[07:03] <__mikem> IceCube, are you using XGL?
[07:03] <IceCube> When I came here two days ago someone directed me to libraries or repositories for me to click on and it accelerated no problem. I just can't remember what it wads
[07:03] <nalioth> ed1t: yup
[07:04] <IceCube> XGL? If I am I don't know about it
[07:04] <__mikem> IceCube, I will assume you are not then
[07:04] <__mikem> What package did that guy ask you to install
[07:05] <waspius_> i installed fvwm but it does not load..anyone know why?
[07:05] <IceCube> __mikem well thats the problem, I don't remember. I just remember him sending me to some links that explained that I had to add a few libraries to use the ATI accelerator
[07:05] <bruenig> !ati
[07:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:05] <IceCube> Either that or the ati accelerator was what I had to add
[07:05] <IceCube> I've tried the thing that bot throws out, and its way more complicated than the method that worked for me before
[07:06] <__mikem> IceCube try sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:06] <__mikem> lets see
[07:06] <__mikem> !ati
[07:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:06] <IceCube> This looks similar to a method I tried earlier today
[07:06] <IceCube> I'll give it a blast though
[07:06] <warci> weirbut when you install the nvidia driver, double buffering of video playback is disabled... how do you fix this?
[07:07] <IceCube> And as I said before, I've tried the bots method and its beyond me, I'm a complete newbie to all this
[07:07] <y0shi> hi, I tried to disable antialias for small fonts (like suggeste in some guide) and at first font look like I wanted (like small fonts in windows). but now they look bad (like monochrome)
[07:07] <y0shi> any idea what happened?
[07:07] <__mikem> IceCube, I know I was just trying to see what the bot's advice was
[07:07] <y0shi> I couldn't find out what I did that caused it.
[07:07] <IceCube> Aparrently I already have the newest version when I do sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:07] <__mikem> IceCube, ok, then that would be the package you were told to install before
[07:08] <IceCube> Thats the package I tried to install today. You see this is a fresh install, I'm on 32-bit after ironically changing from my fully functional 64-bit setup hoping for some more simplicity
[07:09] <__mikem> bruenig, that is unnecessary
[07:09] <lamego> IceCube, did you follow the 3 steps ati driver install how-to ?
[07:09] <dravas> I have Firefox with Flash 4 and Flash 7 installed how do I remove the Flash 4
[07:09] <__mikem> IceCube, now I want you to do the following
[07:09] <IceCube> Ok, which one was this, I've followed about 8 guides now lamego
[07:09] <__mikem> sudo aticonfig --initial
[07:10] <__mikem> sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[07:10] <bruenig> dravas, cd /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[07:10] <dravas> ok
[07:10] <bruenig> dravas, that is where all the plugins are, find the one that deals with flash 4 and rm it
[07:10] <h4ch3r> Scp MP3!  [Ouvindo: 03 Hellbound.mp3 3:59/208kbps] 
[07:10] <SillyZ> hmmm seems dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org dosent seem to work
[07:10] <IceCube> Admittedly as far as my experience would allow bruenig, I'm sure you just started knowing exactly what the guides meant
[07:10] <lamego> IceCube, bad approach, you should folow only one, and ask for help to figure what went wrong
[07:11] <SillyZ> bah, was missing the xorg on the end, was just putting xserver-org
[07:11] <bruenig> IceCube, I looked at that guide, you open up a terminal and copy and paste like 100 things and that is the extent of it
[07:11] <IceCube> Which one bruenig? The one the bot shows?
[07:11] <bruenig> I still don't know what a lot of that stuff on there is
[07:11] <IceCube> !ati
[07:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:11] <__mikem> bruenig, how about leaving this to someone who DOES know what that stuff is
[07:11] <lamego> IceCube, you just need to install the drivers, and edit a text file to use it instead of the open source driver
[07:11] <cokeslut> sup?
[07:12] <IceCube> I did everything it said in the guide but nothing happened for me when I did the $ fglrxinfo
[07:12] <lamego> installing the driver is like, one command, changing the file is like, changing one line o a text file, xorg.conf
[07:12] <Johnny> my battery for my laptop has a 4 hr life but it it never lasts that long
[07:12] <lamego> IceCube, did you checked that the driver was properly loaded ?
[07:12] <bruenig> __mikem, I did through the !ati, but whatever I don't care much I just think it odd that somebody wants help and then wont take it because it looks like it might be a lot of work
[07:12] <Johnny> just now it only lasted for about 20 minutes
[07:12] <Johnny> is there anything i can do to fix that
[07:13] <IceCube> I presume thats what that command was for
[07:13] <IceCube> $ fglrxinfo
[07:13] <lamego> ops, i mean IceCube
[07:13] <bruenig> Icecube, don't use the $
[07:13] <__mikem> bruenig, he is a self proclaimed n00b, he may be afraid to modify config files, I don't blame him
[07:13] <lamego> IceCube, lsmod | grep -i fglxr
[07:13] <lamego> IceCube, dmesg | grep fglrx
[07:13] <relachs> Hello, i am stuck at the installation, it doesn't let me create the swap partition (new partition) it says there can't be more than 4 Primary paritions at once
[07:14] <IceCube> Half of these guides tell you quite casually to compile or "answer the questions" of a wizard that asks me things I really don't know about my hardware
[07:14] <lamego> IceCube, just to be safe, you did edit the xorg.conf, right ?
[07:14] <HellDragon> reboot brb
[07:14] <bruenig> relachs, you are going to need to make an extended partition and put it in there along with one of your other partitions
[07:14] <__mikem> IceCube, I would recomend not using any guides that ask you to compile something
[07:14] <lamego> IceCube, you dont need to compile unless your model is not supported by the current driver
[07:14] <IceCube> Sorry lamego, I keep losing track while trying to justify my existence to born leet bruenig
[07:15] <lamego> IceCube, , we are your guide now, did you changed xorg.conf ?
[07:15] <__mikem> IceCube have you typed those two commands yet?
[07:15] <__mikem> sudo aticonfig --initial
[07:15] <__mikem> sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[07:15] <cilkay> Hello. I have the 6.06 live CD in my ThinkPad. I want to see if it supports the ThinkPad function controls, specifically switching between the LCD panel and the external VGA output for connecting to a projector. Does the default Live CD support that?
[07:15] <lamego> ciaron, if you have it, why dont you try it :) ?
[07:15] <relachs> bruenig: yes, but how? If i click on the 'new paritition' symbol, this dialog pops up. Do i have to delete a partition first?
[07:15] <greenwom> any Kino users??? I've got problems
[07:16] <bruenig> relachs, yes delete one partition, then right click on the free space and make the whole thing an extended partition, then remake the partition you deleted as well as the swap within that extended partition
[07:16] <Johnny> my 4 hour battery didnt even last 30 minutes until power management could put it on standby
[07:16] <Johnny> does anyone know what the problem might be?
[07:16] <greenwom> Kino constant drop frames and crashes.....
[07:17] <raghu206> problem while logging out screen appears blank nothing appears in dapper drake
[07:17] <Ropechoborra> raghu206 And the starting one too??
[07:18] <rancid> I installed network-manager-gnome, but accidentally removed the icon on my panel. Anyone know how to get it back? BTW, I'm not talking about the the network monitor that defaults to the panel.
[07:18] <raghu206> Ropechoborra, at starting it is normal login screen appears
[07:18] <Ropechoborra> raghu206 i got both in blank .. =( dont know how to fix it
[07:19] <bruenig> rancid, if you know the command for network-manager-gnome, you should be able to create a launcher on the panel by right clicking on it and selecting add to panel then application launcher or custom application launcher
[07:19] <rancid> I have no idea
[07:19] <_gpg_> salut
[07:20] <cilkay> How do you configure display mirroring with the Live CD?
[07:20] <bruenig> rancid, how do you access network-manager-gnome other than that launcher you had
[07:20] <_gpg_> je voudrais connaitre votre avis concernant l'utilisationd'easybuntu
[07:20] <raghu206> ropechoborra, did u fix it
[07:20] <bruenig> through a system menu I would guess?
[07:20] <_gpg_> oop
[07:20] <_gpg_> really sry
[07:20] <relachs> bruenig: it only let's me create primary partitions :(
[07:20] <Ropechoborra> raghu206 No =( i dont know how
[07:20] <bruenig> relachs, it should work
[07:21] <lamego> rancid, gnome-net<tab>
[07:21] <lamego> on a terminal
[07:21] <rancid> bruenig, it just resided in the panel as an icon when I installed it
[07:21] <lamego> should be one of those
[07:21] <lamego> rancid, you mean on the panel, like an applet ?
[07:21] <bruenig> lamego, I think he means launcher
[07:21] <bruenig> perhaps not
[07:22] <lamego> launchers are not on panels, unless you add them there :)
[07:22] <bruenig> rancid, did this thing on the panel move and do stuff or just sit idly until you clicked on it
[07:22] <lamego> on that case the entry would be on the menu also :)
[07:22] <rancid> gnome-net : command not found
[07:22] <bruenig> rancid, gnome-net<tab><tab>
[07:23] <rancid> I cant believe you guys dont know network-manager
[07:23] <bruenig> then look at the list it gives you to see if it looks like what you need
[07:23] <lamego> rancid, have you tried "Add To Panel" ?
[07:23] <buntu418> guys how to make amarok play mpg file wmv files?
[07:23] <lamego> rancid, why should i need it ? i just have 1 network card
[07:23] <rancid> It does not reside in add to panel
[07:23] <Ropechoborra> buntu418 i dont think amarok does that
[07:23] <relachs>  i have got /hda1, /hda2, 'not used', and an extended hda3
[07:23] <bruenig> rancid, do you mean network tools?
[07:24] <bruenig> rancid, do gnome-nettool, and see if what it launches is what you are talking about
[07:24] <buntu418> Ropechoborra: it did play last time when i installed ubuntu to a friends pc... it plays the audio layer of mpg files
[07:24] <relachs> bruenig: and its not possible to create an extended in the 'not used' row
[07:24] <Ropechoborra> buntu418 Oh... didnt knew that
[07:24] <rancid> no!!! Network-manager-gnome. It allows you to switch between wired and wireless networks on a laptop
[07:24] <bruenig> relachs hard for me to do much not seeing your partition table or what exactly you are doing
[07:25] <bruenig> rancid, I don't have a laptop nor wireless connectivity, hence no knowledge
[07:25] <bruenig> however I have the knowledge of launchers and applets and the like and know how to create them. If you can identify how to start the program, I can do the rest
[07:25] <buntu418> any guy who knows amarok and engines?? to make it play mpg as audio files
[07:26] <Audesse> buntu - check out the wiki...search restricted formats
[07:26] <rancid> bruenig I have no idea how it started
[07:26] <bruenig> rancid, maybe it is an applet you are talking about, right click on the panel then scroll all the way down and see if it is there
[07:26] <bruenig> right click on the panel click add to panel and then scroll down*
[07:26] <rancid> it is not listed in the add to panel
[07:26] <buntu418> thanks
[07:27] <bruenig> rancid, I see it
[07:27] <bruenig> does the icon look like two computers and it lights up and all that good stuff
[07:27] <lamego> rancid, I dont believe you could have a gnome applet which is not on the applet add menu
[07:27] <rancid> no that is network monitor which I can add to the panel. I dont need this
[07:28] <bruenig> rancid, can you at least tell if it is an applet or launcher that you were used to clicking on
[07:28] <relachs> bruenig: i would make a screenshot but it doesnt work
[07:29] <bruenig> relachs, I don't use the graphical install for just these kind of problems, too buggy, I would use alternate cd if I were you
[07:30] <relachs> i have got a gparted cd
[07:30] <fyrestrtr> you can have a custom applet launcher and add that to the panel.
[07:30] <rancid> it resided on the panel after I installed it. if you clicked it it would allow you to switch between wired and wireless networks.
[07:30] <TheGame> sup
[07:30] <relachs> brb
[07:31] <bruenig> rancid, it is hard to know if that is a launcher or applet, seems unlikely that a launcher would be made for you with an install so if I had to guess i would say applet, but if it is an applet you should be able to add it through that right click add to panel dialog
[07:31] <bruenig> rancid, you could try uninstalling and then reinstalling, maybe it will do it again for you. But you probably should figure out why it works and that way you can at least put it back if it goes away
[07:32] <Tonren> How do I get Gaim to stop starting on boot up?!?!!
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> rancid: that is the network monitor applet.
[07:32] <rancid> Problem is I dont know how to start it. If you know suse it it is the network manager that is installed by default on that os
[07:32] <bruenig> fyrestrtr, that is what i told him, he disagrees
[07:32] <lamego> Tonren, System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[07:33] <bruenig> rancid, you are absolutely sure it isn't network monitor?
[07:33] <rancid> You guys, that applet is not what I am talking about
[07:33] <Tonren> lamego: I've removed it from the sessions, it's not on the startup list, I've set it as "Trash" in the startup settings
[07:33] <Tonren> lamego: IT WON'T GO AWAY!
[07:33] <rancid> It is not network monitor
[07:33] <bruenig> rancid, when you click on it it gives you an option to do just what you were talking about or at least it appears to. I don't have two connections to test it
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> rancid: what did it do? allow you to switch between wireless and wired?
[07:34] <frying_fish> anyone around happen to use i915 for graphics and output to a LCD tv from the vga connection?
[07:34] <__mikem> !nvidia
[07:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:35] <rancid> fyrestrtr yes, but it was better than the default network monitor. it allowed for wpa encryption
[07:36] <__mikem> How do I find out what model my nvidia card is?
[07:36] <halorgium> lspci?
[07:36] <bruenig> !beagle
[07:36] <ubotu> beagle: indexing and search tool for your personal data. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.6-1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1208 kB, installed size 3992 kB
[07:36] <__mikem> thanks
[07:37] <bruenig> is beagle any good?
[07:37] <rancid> forget it, i'll uninstall then reinstall. If you used a laptop, you would find it indespensible. It is a very popular applet
[07:37] <bruenig> rancid, when you do reinstall try to figure out how it works
[07:37] <drbashir> is there a channel for WinCE syncing support?
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> ah, network-manager-gnome is probably what you are after rancid.
[07:38] <rancid> yes fyrestarter I know what it is called. I need to bring back the icon!
[07:38] <lamego> rancid, have you installed it from apt ? or manually ?
[07:38] <rancid> Installed from apt
[07:38] <lamego> i see a some howtos on the forum on how to install a cvs network monitor with wpa support
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> rancid: lol sorry, I didn't mean to frustrate you.
[07:39] <drbashir> !WinCE
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about WinCE - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <drbashir> !pda
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <fyrestrtr> __mikem: lspci | grep VGA
[07:39] <fyrestrtr> !info multisync
[07:39] <ubotu> multisync: A program to synchronize PIM data. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.82-5.2build1 (dapper), package size 75 kB, installed size 284 kB
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> drbashir: ^^^^^^
[07:40] <ubuntu> anyone know a command for check the errors in ubuntu?
[07:40] <lamego> ubuntu, dmesg ?
[07:40] <ubuntu> lamego only dmesg?
[07:40] <lamego> look at /var/log ?
[07:40] <lamego> main error logs should be on /var/log
[07:40] <ubuntu> i cant enter to my ubuntu , i am in a live cd , it say that i cant enter its unmounted , or something so , can anyone help me_
[07:41] <rancid> about network-manager-gnome, it adds nm-applet to the sessions, but I cant seem to restart it. I just need to bring back the icon that resided in my panel
[07:41] <lamego> not if you don't describe your problem
[07:41] <digit> hi all
[07:42] <ubuntu> but last week i got the same problem , i put a command in the console and all ok , it was a command that view th erros and reapir it
[07:42] <Crooper> hello all
[07:42] <cokeslut> Hi
[07:42] <ubuntu> do u know some command that make that_
[07:43] <drbashir> fyrestrtr, got that, but need some help with this: http://www.opensync.org/wiki/SetupGuide...
[07:43] <drbashir> I'm stuck at trying to sync a vCard...
[07:43] <digit> I have just installed ubuntu dapper , and I was wondering I heard there was a tool that maked installing video cards easy  anyone ever hear of this
[07:44] <drbashir> !easyubuntu > digit
[07:44] <digit> ah yes
[07:44] <DanaG> I just thought of another question:
[07:44] <DanaG> Which was is better when compiling my own kernel:
[07:44] <digit> man i have a night mare of a video card nvidia 6200 turbo cache
[07:44] <digit> sucks
[07:45] <jmelloy> I'm installling ubuntu on a macbook.
[07:45] <DanaG> The source from "git" or the source from the repos?
[07:45] <KrakensDen> digit, could be worse
[07:45] <drbashir> fyrestrtr, stuck at this section: "Second test: Add a sample vcard to the directory"
[07:45] <lamego> digit, video cards are easy to install if you have a mainstream model, ati or nvidia
[07:45] <longbean> nvidia cards are usually supported pretty well under linux aren't they?
[07:45] <KrakensDen> does anyone know the difference between dapper and dapper-updates?
[07:45] <lamego> digit, have you tried the nvidia how-to ?
[07:45] <KrakensDen> I can't find any documentation
[07:45] <drbashir> !pastebin
[07:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:46] <digit> it installs fine but the 3d dont work
[07:46] <harisund> can anybody tell me what kind of a framerate can be considered *decent* in the output of glxgears -printfps?
[07:46] <jmelloy> And I installed the ati drivers, and ran aticonfig
[07:46] <lamego> digit, did you install the nvidia driver ?
[07:46] <jmelloy> which fixed my resolution
[07:46] <DanaG> Also, is it possible to make the new kernel I compile have the same suffix as the old one so I can use its restricted-modules?
[07:46] <KrakensDen> digit, you need to enable it
[07:46] <jmelloy> but when I do fglrxinfo, I get mesa as the opengl driver
[07:46] <cokeslut> you tell me
[07:46] <KrakensDen> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:46] <jmelloy> ati drivers
[07:47] <digit> how do you enable
[07:47] <KrakensDen> and don't install nvidia-xconfig or nvidia-settings
[07:47] <lamego> jmelloy, did you chcked that the driver is setup on xorg.conf ?
[07:47] <jmelloy> it seems to be
[07:47] <digit> ive only tried it on debian
[07:47] <KrakensDen> digit, did that work?
[07:48] <KrakensDen> digit, if it didn't, what it does is fairly simple
[07:48] <digit> once when i first got the card
[07:48] <KrakensDen> digit, and if you need to do it manually, just ask, I can help
[07:48] <Crooper> in xorg.conf change 'nv' to 'nvidia'
[07:48] <digit> ok im asking
[07:48] <funkja> how do I look at my processor speed?
[07:49] <KrakensDen> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:49] <lamego> funkja, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:49] <KrakensDen> search for 'nv'
[07:49] <TheGame> any1 know of any cool tips and tricks
[07:49] <KrakensDen> change that to 'nvidia'
[07:49] <TheGame> im looking in the forums and cant find any that i havent done
[07:49] <__mikem> !nvidia
[07:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:49] <lamego> funkja, okr "lshw"
[07:50] <KrakensDen> and make sure DRI section with chmod 0666 exists
[07:50] <KrakensDen> I think ubuntu does that by default though
[07:50] <KrakensDen> 	Mode	0666
[07:50] <KrakensDen> EndSection <- put that in wherever
[07:50] <DShepherd> does the alternate cd allow you to resize partitions non-destructively on installation of ubuntu dapper 6.06.1?
[07:50] <drbashir> fyrestrtr, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21117
[07:50] <TheGame> any1 here good with bash scripts
[07:51] <TheGame> i want to automate my camera
[07:51] <digit> ok
[07:51] <KrakensDen> bollocks on xchat
[07:51] <TheGame> so that when i plug it in the pictures are moved to a folder automattically
[07:51] <digit> sounds good
[07:51] <MinceR> hi
[07:51] <TheGame> ?
[07:51] <rixxon> meep i want edgy. now!
[07:51] <r000t> sidebuttons to work in firefox with my intellimouse        --someone???
[07:51] <MinceR> how does libapache2-mod-perl2 work out of the box (that is, where do i need to put .pl files to get them to run, do i need to do anything else)?
[07:53] <rixxon> r000t, perhaps try this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44191
[07:53] <drbashir> ...
[07:54] <r000t> rixxon: been there done that.. doesnt work
[07:54] <rixxon> r000t, ok :(
[07:54] <r000t> rixxon: is it the same version of xorg as then
[07:55] <rixxon> huh
[07:55] <FurryNemesis> is swiftfox as fast or faster than firefox+fasterfox? Anyone with experience?
[07:57] <lamego> funkmaster, it is expected to be, at least have compiled firefox for my amd system and it did performed a lot better
[07:57] <digitalhav0c> FurryNemesis, to me swiftfox wasn't really any faster than my regular firefox
[07:57] <funkmaster> typo
[07:58] <digitalhav0c> to me
[07:58] <FurryNemesis> lamego, I'm on a normal i386 system. I suppose your amd sys appreciated some tweaking?
[07:58] <digitalhav0c> at least
[07:58] <rixxon> FurryNemesis, if you need speed perhaps try epiphany
[07:59] <teacordes> how can i completely remove a program?
[07:59] <FurryNemesis> thank you
[07:59] <lamego> FurryNemesis, there is nothing like trying it :)
[07:59] <lamego> teacordes, go to synaptic and remove it ?
[08:00] <teacordes> lamego: i am trying to completly remove vmware. when i install it termnial says there are files to overwrite and it is not in synaptic
[08:01] <Audesse> are you using sudo to install it?
[08:01] <FurryNemesis> was going to anyway, just wondered if ppl preferred it over normal FF
[08:02] <teacordes> yes
[08:02] <lamego> teacordes, sudo vmware-uninstall.pl
[08:02] <lamego> teacordes, next time be more specific on the program you want to remove :)
[08:02] <lamego> and it also depends on how it was installed...
[08:03] <fangorious> how to do i stop receiving emails for bugs on launchpad?
[08:03] <teacordes> lamego: ok thank you. but it says file not foun!
[08:04] <Audesse> teacordes - try sudo locate -u, then sudo locate vmware
[08:04] <teacordes> maybe you can help when i post the log of installation?
[08:04] <ubuntu> how can i view my partitions ?
[08:04] <ubuntu> and if they are hda1 hda2 ..
[08:04] <ubuntu> any command?
[08:04] <fangorious> ubuntu: fdisk -l
[08:05] <exs> Someone needs to write a script for the S3 graphics UniChrome Pro IGP, and then they need to implement it in edgy eft for automatic instillation.
[08:05] <ubuntu> fangorious, ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$ fdisk -l
[08:05] <ubuntu> ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$
[08:05] <ubuntu> nothing
[08:05] <teacordes> Audesse: i get a lot on this
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> run it as root with sudo
[08:06] <ubuntu> cool thamnks
[08:06] <MinceR> byte
[08:07] <Audesse> teacordes: do you see one that says vmware-uninstall.pl?
[08:07] <ubuntu> thanks a lot people
[08:07] <ubuntu> best help channel
[08:07] <ubuntu> :D
[08:07] <ubuntu> bye
[08:08] <jmelloy> so any ideas how to check on the video card?
[08:08] <teacordes> Audesse: no there are only some debs
[08:08] <teacordes> Audesse but there is a folder /etc/vmware
[08:08] <fangorious> jmelloy: check what on the video card?
[08:09] <Audesse> teacordes: is the vmware folder empty?
[08:09] <jmelloy> I have a macbook pro, which has an ati mobility x1600 (I think)
[08:09] <jmelloy> I installed the ati drivers, and ran aticonfig, which fixed my resolution
[08:09] <jmelloy> but when I do fglrxinfo, I get mesa as teh open gl driver
[08:10] <fangorious> jmelloy: you using the pre-packaged fglrx from the repos, or manually from ati.com?
[08:10] <jmelloy> ati.com
[08:10] <teacordes> no, there are 2 files: ucordes@blueberry:/etc/vmware$ dir : locations , not_configured
[08:10] <TheGame> hey
[08:10] <TheGame> everytime i boot
[08:11] <jmelloy> and I added fglrx to /etc/default/linux-restricted-blah
[08:11] <TheGame> networkmanager asks me to put in a password
[08:11] <TheGame> for the keyring
[08:11] <TheGame> how do i disable that
[08:11] <fangorious> jmelloy: is the ati.com version newer than the packaged version?
[08:12] <jmelloy> how do I check the version of the packaged one?
[08:12] <TheGame> any1?
[08:12] <TheGame> ok heres another question
[08:12] <jmelloy> the ati one is 8.28.8
[08:12] <Pesa> cu
[08:12] <Audesse> teacordes: what do you get when you do ls -al /etc/vmware ?
[08:12] <TheGame> how do i decide what happens to ubuntu when i close my laptop screen
[08:12] <salah> is there any extra theme packages I can install via synaptic?
[08:13] <fangorious> TheGame: I could be mistaken, but I think that's something being worked on for a future release (the network manager keyring thing)
[08:13] <teacordes> Audesse: may i paste it here?
[08:13] <teacordes> it's not too big
[08:13] <TheGame> ok
[08:13] <TheGame> what about laptop lid
[08:13] <fangorious> jmelloy: you could search for fglrx in synaptic
[08:13] <teacordes> TheGame: you can't disable the password prompt afaik
[08:13] <TheGame> thats fine
[08:13] <Audesse> teacordes: yeah it shouldn't be a problem I don't think
[08:13] <fangorious> TheGame: look in .... /etc/acpi/scripts, something like that
[08:13] <TheGame> will do
[08:14] <teacordes> insgesamt 12
[08:14] <teacordes> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4096 2006-08-19 20:06 .
[08:14] <teacordes> drwxr-xr-x 110 root root 4096 2006-08-19 18:08 ..
[08:14] <teacordes> -rw-r--r--   1 root root  668 2006-08-19 18:33 locations
[08:14] <teacordes> -rw-r--r--   1 root root    0 2006-08-19 17:29 not_configured
[08:14] <jmelloy> synaptec has 8.25.18
[08:14] <exs> Is there an automated install script for the S3 graphics UniChrome Pro IGP?
[08:14] <teacordes> TheGame: click system > settings > engery..
[08:15] <TheGame> teacordes: i dont have that
[08:15] <jmelloy> synaptec has "xorg-driver-fglrx" but it isn't installed
[08:15] <TheGame> oh
[08:15] <TheGame> power management?
[08:15] <Scorpmoon> what is the difference between "Install to hard disk" and "Install a LAMP server" ?
[08:15] <fangorious> jmelloy: have you seen this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198453
[08:16] <TheGame> oh i see it
[08:16] <TheGame> thanks
[08:16] <teacordes> TheGame: yes first think :-)
[08:16] <teacordes> Audesse: what does this tell me?
[08:16] <jmelloy> eah, I followed those directions
[08:16] <jmelloy> only with a newer version of the ati drivers
[08:17] <Scorpmoon> does "Install a LAMP server" include the first option, just with those 4 apps?
[08:17] <jmelloy> and just installing it instead of making the packages
[08:17] <exs_> How do I open a port in the firewall?
[08:17] <Audesse> teacordes: I was hoping that the permissions were set up such that you couldn't write to those files even as root, but you can
[08:17] <Cookie> server irc.freenode.net
[08:17] <DetlefE> Hello there.  Quick *simplistic* question: Can I install a printer driver that is packaged as an RPM?
[08:17] <nalioth> exs_: firewalls are not necessary in a default ubuntu install
[08:17] <richiefrich> exs_ what are u using  ---> smoothwall ?
[08:17] <Cookie> SERVER IRC.FREENODE.NET
[08:17] <jmelloy> Cookie: you're already here.
[08:17] <richiefrich> Cookie yes thats where u are
[08:18] <exs_> nalioth:  well, i heard ubuntu had a firewall, and my torrent downloads are going slow.
[08:18] <Cookie> :))
[08:18] <richiefrich> exs_ thats the torrent
[08:18] <nalioth> exs_: if you've installed Ubuntu and YOU have not enabled a firewall, there is none
[08:18] <fangorious> jmelloy: maybe try making packages then. I have a different ati chip but using both the pre-packaged and building packages have worked for me
[08:18] <richiefrich> exs_  or what app are u using for the torrents
[08:18] <exs_> nalioth; i heard it is enabled by default
[08:18] <Cookie> #ubuntu.tr
[08:19] <exs_> i use azureus
[08:19] <nalioth> exs_: not so.
[08:19] <richiefrich> azureus has many options
[08:19] <richiefrich> chnage the port
[08:19] <richiefrich> change*
[08:19] <exs> nalioth: that's not very good then is it?.. no firewall?.. i heard ubuntu was supposed to be secure
[08:19] <teacordes> Audesse: so what am i gonna do now? remove the folder and install again?
[08:19] <richiefrich> exs linux it secure
[08:19] <jmelloy> is there a better way of checking if it's loaded than fglrxinfo?
[08:19] <richiefrich> exs  it;s the user
[08:20] <fangorious> exs_: do you have a direct internet connection, or are you behind a nat/router?
[08:20] <richiefrich> exs dont u have a router?
[08:20] <exs> nalioth:  i also done a open port scan, and it found no open ports, not even port 80.
[08:20] <nalioth> exs: if you curse a deaf man, will he be offended? Ubuntu is a Unix-like operating system, it is inherently secure by default
[08:20] <exs> fangorious:  im using a router.
[08:20] <richiefrich> exs thats the router then ..
[08:20] <^Lynx^> hello. I've got a problem. Xmms has just frozen and I cant close it anymore. I heard the command kill should help but "kill xmms" doesnt work
[08:20] <jmelloy> "inherently secure by default" might be overstating things
[08:20] <^Lynx^> I'm quite new to linux btw
[08:20] <nalioth> exs: windows requires a 'firewall' and 'antivirus' and other crutches for it to be secure because it is badly written dreck
[08:20] <richiefrich> exs and also if port 80 is closed thats your isp
[08:20] <exs> jmelloy i think ubuntu should have a firewall by default
[08:20] <fangorious> exs: did you configure the router to forward the power that azureus is using?
[08:21] <Flamekebab> "no AV" doesn't mean insecure, it means no need for
[08:21] <Audesse> teacordes: I would try moving those files first
[08:21] <Flamekebab> why burden the OS with unnecessary clutter
[08:21] <exs> fangorious:  yeah, done all that.
[08:21] <Flamekebab> why would you need a firewall by default?
[08:21] <exs> don't worry it's not a terrible problem, i'm good at making my downloads faster.
[08:21] <Scorpmoon> can someone please explain to me the difference between "Install to hard disk" and "Install a LAMP server" .. is the 2nd option the same as the 1st, with more preinstalled packages?
[08:21] <fangorious> exs: if there aren't any services listening, what is a firewall going block connections to?
[08:21] <teacordes> Audesse: because i could damage my system by removing them or why?
[08:21] <exs> Flamekebab:  because hackers can get in
[08:21] <nalioth> exs: if there are no listening services, what is gonna happen ?
[08:21] <Luke> leagris: were you helping me before?
[08:21] <fangorious> exs: get in through what?
[08:21] <exs> nalioth:  ok true
[08:22] <richiefrich> exs  hackers can get in anyway if they want to
[08:22] <Audesse> teacordes: yeah...maybe I'm just over-cautious haha
[08:22] <exs> fangorious:  i grew up in the windows world. no tin foil hat needed.
[08:22] <exs> (all makes sense now)
[08:22] <^Lynx^> no one here who could help me :( ?
[08:22] <richiefrich> exs looks like u need one
[08:22] <panamax> hello guys
[08:22] <fangorious> jmelloy: i think fglrxinfo is the accepted way of checking for hardware acceleration, only way i've used
[08:22] <bigfuzzyjesus> fire walls are worthless
[08:22] <Flamekebab> You see, Linux isn't Windows
[08:22] <christoo> okay
[08:22] <Flamekebab> hehe
[08:22] <jmelloy> cool
[08:23] <bigfuzzyjesus> ive never been hit by a hacker
[08:23] <bigfuzzyjesus> ever
[08:23] <christoo> really simple question REALLY SIMPLE lol
[08:23] <Flamekebab> and it is something that is very important to remember
[08:23] <christoo> i'm trying to mount a usb hard drive
[08:23] <Flamekebab> thank you, fangorious
[08:23] <panamax> I use usr 9106 adsl modem and just telnet'd inside
[08:23] <maxkelley> !edgy
[08:23] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:23] <MKR> psst, what's the ubuntu random chat channel again? Haven't connected to freenode in months
[08:23] <richiefrich> christoo then mount it
[08:23] <MKR> And it's nto in the channewl topic anymore =(
[08:23] <panamax> noted that there is a busybox inside
[08:23] <FurryNemesis> ubuntu-offtopic
[08:23] <MKR> thanks
[08:23] <panamax> which commands dows it allow ?
[08:23] <^Lynx^> how can i close a program that's frozen ?
[08:23] <christoo> richiefrich i've tired, sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/flash
[08:24] <bigfuzzyjesus> !scedule
[08:24] <richiefrich> ^Lynx^ kill
[08:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scedule - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <^Lynx^> kill xmms doesnt really work :/
[08:24] <fangorious> anyone know how to stop getting emails from bug report updates on launchpad?
[08:24] <richiefrich> christoo and?
[08:24] <bigfuzzyjesus> !schedule
[08:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:24] <fangorious> ^Lynx^: try pkill
[08:24] <panamax> !busybox
[08:24] <ubotu> busybox: Tiny utilities for small and embedded systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.01-4ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 281 kB, installed size 508 kB
[08:24] <richiefrich> ^Lynx^ pgrep xmms
[08:24] <richiefrich> ^Lynx^ kill PID
[08:24] <panamax> a-ha :)
[08:24] <christoo> richiefrich mount: special device /dev/sda does not exist
[08:24] <Flamekebab> ^Lynx^, you could try add one of those "kill program" applets to your task bar
[08:24] <Flamekebab> that's what I do for convenience sake
[08:24] <MKR> hmm
[08:24] <^Lynx^> pkill worked
[08:24] <^Lynx^> thanks
[08:24] <MKR> I need to make my ident "rootisfun"
[08:24] <richiefrich> christoo u said u tried /dev/sda1
 richiefrich mount: special device /dev/sda does not exist <-- thats sda
[08:25] <exs> what's the different between 6.06 and, 6.06.1? is there a lot of changes?
[08:25] <mark__> !emulators
[08:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emulators - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:25] <christoo> yup richiefrich
[08:25] <richiefrich> christoo so what are u mounting?
[08:25] <fangorious> ^Lynx^: just be aware that, afaik, pkill will try to kill all processes with that name
[08:25] <richiefrich> sda
[08:25] <richiefrich> sda1
[08:25] <richiefrich> ?
[08:25] <christoo> usb hard dirve
[08:25] <richiefrich> i know man
[08:25] <richiefrich> what is it
[08:25] <richiefrich> fdisk -l
[08:25] <panamax> anyone knows a busybox channel here ?
[08:25] <ynef> exs: yes, tons of security upgrades
[08:25] <christoo> no output
[08:25] <MKR> try /list busybox
[08:26] <richiefrich> sudo fdisk -l
[08:26] <^Lynx^> ok
[08:26] <Flamekebab> exs, the difference is it's like a service pack, all the updates conveniently rolled into one
[08:26] <richiefrich> christoo  dmesg | tail
[08:26] <exs> ynef:  i made my system up to date when i installed ubuntu yesterday. Will I have the equlivant of 6.06.1?
[08:26] <Volvo> hello, i was afk for sometimes and there was a window with title " Slightly Less Boring ", the moment i clicked, it disapeared. Can someone guide me how to trace what was it for ?
[08:26] <Flamekebab> exs, yep
[08:26] <richiefrich> christoo theres output somelpace
[08:26] <exs> Flamekebab:  thanks
[08:26] <teacordes> Audesse: i completly removed it. should i do anything else before reinstalling?
[08:26] <ynef> exs: yes, in fact, you can see that some packages have 6.06.1 tacked on the version number
[08:27] <panamax> even "who" command not working
[08:27] <justin_> Is there any "defrag" type programs included with Ubuntu?, and does Linux even need a defrag once in a while for that matter??
[08:27] <christoo> i found the output
[08:27] <panamax> what a tiny busybox is that
[08:27] <christoo> i need to specify the filesystem
[08:27] <christoo> its Extended
[08:27] <Flamekebab> justin_, Linux filesystems don't need defragging
[08:27] <exs> In windows, I went into program files and then went into a program folder to launch it. Firefox is telling me what to open a torrent with. I want to set it to azureus but I dont know where the excutable is
[08:27] <philc> I just installed a new ubuntu vps; I want to set up email forwarding by putting .forward files in /var/mail/user. What daemon do I need for that? Sendmail? Do I need a mta?
[08:27] <justin_> Flamekebab: Great, cause I really dislike doing it.
[08:27] <salah> hello. how do I print out three pages per paper with openoffice? the file im printing out is powerpoint presentation file
[08:27] <Flamekebab> justin_, take a look at this http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/index.php/2006/08/17/why_doesn_t_linux_need_defragmenting
[08:27] <Thunderpants> exs, /usr/bin most likely
[08:28] <Audesse> teacordes: I would go ahead and try reinstalling and see what happens
[08:28] <justin_> ok
[08:28] <Flamekebab> exs, it's kinda complicated, do as follows - download the torrent file
[08:28] <bigfuzzyjesus> does anyone know a lite AIM program
[08:28] <MKR> sudo aptitude install gaim
[08:28] <Flamekebab> actually, no, someone else can field this one
[08:28] <fangorious> exs: you could use 'locate azurues' in a shell to find all flies with that string in their name, or 'which azureus' if it's in your PATH
[08:28] <Flamekebab> I'm not totally certain what I'm going to suggest is the best way
[08:29] <DShepherd> how can i resize my ext3 partition using commandline tools? gparted is not playing nice
[08:29] <MKR> whoa, there's a locate command
[08:29] <jmelloy> there sure is
[08:29] <exs> fangorious:  what's a shell, and why dont they install all on the same directory?.. e.g. user/bin?
[08:29] <bigfuzzyjesus> MKR, something lighter than gaim
[08:29] <MKR> wow, "locate porn" actualy returned something...and I don't have any porn
[08:29] <MKR> hmm
[08:29] <teacordes> Audesse: what packets do i need? there vmware-player, vmware-player, vnware-player-kernel-module, vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-23 ?
[08:30] <justin_> Nice article.
[08:30] <Audesse> MKR - check out sudo locate -u to make sure that your database is up to date
[08:30] <MKR> I don't know of any lighter clietbs
[08:30] <fangorious> exs: the reason is rather out of scope for this channel. Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[08:30] <fangorious> exs: might be Gnome Terminal
[08:30] <MKR> First I'll do -h to make sure that's what -u does
[08:30] <MKR> thanks
[08:30] <exs> fangorious:  ohh, didn't know the terminal was also the shell
[08:31] <Audesse> teacordes: are you using synaptic?
[08:31] <teacordes> Audesse: yes i do
[08:31] <Volvo> is there any command like /whowas ?
[08:31] <fangorious> exs: well, you run a shell (bash, csh, tcsh, ash, zsh, etc) in a terminal (gnome-terminal, konsole, xterm, rxvt, aterm, eterm, etc)
[08:31] <KrakensDen> does anyone know the difference between dapper and dapper-updates?
[08:31] <exs> fangorious:  ok
[08:31] <tambu> I know someone will shoot me but I'm a bit concerned... I see there is no root user login  and that ubuntu uses sudu to give root privledges... atleast that asks for a password but if you do sudo su it just makes you root without asking for password? am I missing something this seems far less secure then a separate root acct/passwd?
[08:32] <avu> krakensden: dapper holds the complete archives in release state and dapper-updates features non-security-related bugfixes
[08:32] <teacordes> KarkensDen: since many updates were released since dapper is out, they released a cd with the updates allready installed.
[08:32] <Luke> does anyone know if there is a way to change the f-spot import directory?
[08:32] <KrakensDen> avu, so in my sources.list, I should source from dapper-updates?
[08:32] <Audesse> teacordes: I've never used vmware, but I think you could probably just install them all and be okay
[08:32] <MKR> tambu, sudo holds the pass for a set time. If it were the first sudo, you would be prompted
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> tambu,  faq #1 :)
[08:32] <avu> krakensden: you should have *both* in there
[08:32] <fangorious> tambu: you would have to have already used a sudo command recently to not be prompted (there's a timeout so you don't have to keep authenticating every time)
[08:32] <KrakensDen> avu, ok
[08:33] <KrakensDen> the apt system always confuses me
[08:33] <oscur0matic> same here :(
[08:33] <Flamekebab> I adore apt
[08:33] <oscur0matic> it shows me a problem with the packages.
[08:34] <KrakensDen> avu, different lines or the same line?
[08:34] <jmelloy> well, that'll teach me not to follow the directions
[08:34] <tambu> mkr, dr_willis, fangorious: thx for answers.. trying to find the faq.. but still your only talking about a single password to compromise and you have full access to a system.. normall you disallow root ssh access.. but if I want my user to ssh .. that means only a single password secures my system.. <dodges fangorius's pathetic shot>
[08:34] <jmelloy> It probably won't, really.
[08:34] <KrakensDen> avu, I get an error either way
[08:34] <fangorious> jmelloy: what'll teach you?
[08:34] <avu> krakensden: let me show you my sources.list
[08:34] <salah> any help to my problem please?
[08:34] <jmelloy> works now
[08:35] <jmelloy> I followed the directions this time instead of just running the installer
[08:35] <toaster^> I have a sound problem. ALSA works fine, but OSS gives me no sound. Where do I configure my OSS settings?
[08:35] <panamax> !syslogd
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about syslogd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <panamax> !syslog
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about syslog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <fangorious> jmelloy: crazy, i wonder what the difference i
[08:35] <fangorious> s
[08:35] <MKR> tambu, Ubuntu is aimed at ease of use. If you need that level of security you might want to look to a distro that uses a traditional root login, or coax ubuntu in to doing it
[08:35] <jorik> if i replace /dev/dsp with a regular file, will it contain pcm sound after a while ?
[08:35] <oscur0matic> guys i have a strange problem with my apt-get :(
[08:35] <fangorious> tambu, or a system with selinux
[08:35] <jadrifter> tambu: you CAN make sudo not ask for a password for an individual or group with a line like '[%] admin  ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL'  Use the % to signify a group.
[08:35] <oscur0matic> it can read files from http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages)
[08:35] <Luke> does anyone know if there is a way to change the f-spot import directory?
[08:35] <panamax> seems I screwed the modem's busybox.. even not responding to "help" command
[08:35] <avu> krakensden: http://rafb.net/paste/results/WWKmI285.html
[08:36] <jmelloy> I'm guessing it gets the version of ubuntu wrong
[08:36] <jmelloy> the directions specifically state to make the packages for dapper
[08:36] <avu> krakensden: depending on where you are, you should change the de.archive into something near you
[08:36] <KrakensDen> avu, thanks
[08:36] <fangorious> oscur0matic: you probably want to use a mittor
[08:36] <fangorious> or even a mirror
[08:36] <KrakensDen> avu, I figured ;)
[08:36] <oscur0matic> how do I do that fangorious :(
[08:37] <oscur0matic> it shows me it can find the file.
[08:37] <TheGateKeeper> is there a cli command that will tell me what my hard disk partitions are from a livecd?
[08:37] <oscur0matic> or the directory at that one.
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> TheGateKeeper: mount
[08:37] <fangorious> oscur0matic: there should be a list of mirrors from ubuntu.com, just replace archive.ubuntu.com with a geographically close mirror
[08:37] <oscur0matic> and it tellsme to make an apt-get update.
[08:37] <tambu> jadrifter: I am not trying to make it less secure :) i'm trying to secure.. it further. I understand ease of use.. but at least to me seems an extreme compromise of security to allow "ease of use" .. plus seems to me su - and a password is easier..  hrm. well thanks for the input.
[08:37] <oscur0matic> at the serverls list fangorious? thank you very much.
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> tambu: sudo -i
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> tambu: that makes you root
[08:38] <avu> krakensden: also, there are som unofficial repos in there which you may want to erase
[08:38] <UpMarc> hello... I'm new to this... does someone know an equivalent of Windows Movie Maker for ubuntu?
[08:38] <TheGateKeeper> fyrestrtr: mount with no params gives you the info?
[08:38] <avu> krakensden: (allthough I consider them very usefull)
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> TheGateKeeper: yes
[08:38] <krazykit> tambu: your method is an option, but is unsupported by the ubuntu community.
[08:38] <jadrifter> tambu, the "security" that sudo adds is you don't have to give out the root password to allow users to use it.
[08:38] <KrakensDen> avu, is the plf still extant?
[08:38] <tambu> fyrestrtr: I realize that same as sudo su.. but the point is one requires a 2nd password the other doesn't :)
[08:38] <avu> krakensden: yes
[08:38] <KrakensDen> avu, I thought their ubuntu repos were gone
[08:38] <Flannel> tambu: you can see this for more information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:38] <jadrifter> tambu: In fact you can select WHICH commands a user can use under sudo.  You don't have to run it wide open.
[08:38] <MKR> tambu, you can make Ubuntu use a traditional root login if you want
[08:39] <avu> krakensden: no, check the url in the comment
[08:39] <KrakensDen> apparently not :)
[08:39] <nikin> UpMarc: Pitivi
[08:39] <UpMarc> I'm Migrating from "The Wonderful World of Windows" to Ubuntu...
[08:39] <jmelloy> now I can't hear music ...
[08:39] <KrakensDen> NickaNicka, pitivi is very, very beta
[08:39] <fangorious> UpMarc: welcome to a better way
[08:39] <tambu> jadrifter: true but you can use sudu without disabling the root account.  .. but instead you have a default user that if someone cracks the password has 100% access to a system rather than just using a root account for full access and sudo list for sligtly more than normal user access.
[08:39] <nikin> Krakens: i know, but i dont know any better
[08:39] <tambu> flannel: thanks looking at it now :)
[08:40] <UpMarc> nikin / fangorious: Thank you very much
[08:40] <KrakensDen> nikin, well, there's lives and kino, though neither is very good either
[08:40] <UpMarc> :-)
[08:40] <TheGame> goal
[08:40] <TheGame> i fixed the lid problem
[08:40] <Flannel> tambu: er, how is that any different than root?  You still only have one password (which you need to give to users you need doing system work), which once cracked, gives full access.
[08:40] <TheGame> the acpi was setup wrong
[08:40] <TheGame> so i had to make a new lid.sh
[08:41] <TheGame> and now when i open the lid the screen comes back
[08:41] <MKR> Are there any "but it works better under Linux" stickers to put under a "Designed for Windows" sticker?
[08:41] <Tamale> tambu:  Your understanding of security is flawed if you think having a traditional root password known by anyone is MORE secure than only one user with full sudo.
[08:41] <count_dooku> hello...i am new here..while running the ubuntu 6.06 live cd....i get a lotta error msgs like i/o buffer error in many sectors..i ve tried to disable all kinds of things like hard disc detection etc,but no go...pls help me
[08:41] <auTONYmous> anybody here have a Intel wireless card?
[08:41] <tambu> flannel: no with sudu you create a list of commands a user can access.. say editing samba configs. and thats all they can do.
[08:41] <TheGame> MKR: there are powered by ubuntu stickers
[08:41] <TheGame> that you can put over that windows sticker
[08:41] <Flannel> tambu: right, but you're arguing that root is more secure?
[08:41] <KrakensDen> auTONYmous, yup
[08:42] <KrakensDen> auTONYmous, it works pretty well here
[08:42] <KrakensDen> auTONYmous, what do you have?
[08:42] <MKR> I know about those, but I want something that points out the superiority of linux over the windows install present
[08:42] <auTONYmous> are you using wep, shared key, 128bit
[08:42] <tambu> Tamale: sigh.. I never once said you give people access to root :) I said you have a root account.. and for those users who need slightly more access you use a sudo list to grant them that.. rather than full root access
[08:42] <KrakensDen> auTONYmous, nope
[08:42] <auTONYmous> dammit
[08:42] <KrakensDen> auTONYmous, I hide my essid and pray ;)
[08:42] <soundray> What's a quick-and-dirty way to turn a series of png images into an mpeg clip?
[08:42] <MKR> "Yeah, I share the disk with windows, but he's more of an annoyance."
[08:42] <fangorious> oscur0matic: here's the official mirror list, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive/OfficialMirrors?highlight=%28mirrors%29
[08:42] <KrakensDen> auTONYmous, have you gone through the forums?
[08:42] <KrakensDen> auTONYmous, there might be something there
[08:42] <nikin> soundray: Gimp Animation plugin... if i remember good :D
[08:43] <jayt> Tamale, the presence of a root password opens a door that one does not have if there is no enabled root account :-)
[08:43] <auTONYmous> I'm trying to use my connection at work: 128-bit WEB, hidden SSID, shared key in hex...can't get the damn thing to work at all
[08:43] <Fenster> anyone know a guio based ftp client for gnome?
[08:43] <Tamale> jayt:  exactly
[08:43] <tambu> flannel I am arguing that if I never want people to have root then the only way someone can crack my system and get root privledges is to 1) crack my ssh password for login (since root ssh is disabled) then they are just a normal user.. then they must crack my root password. two passwords instead of one.
[08:43] <oscur0matic> fangorious, thank you thank you thank you
[08:43] <MKR> fenster, gftp
[08:43] <auTONYmous> I haven't gone as far as recompiling new drivers yet
[08:43] <MKR> I use kftpgrabber though
[08:43] <fangorious> auTONYmous: you using Network Manager?
[08:43] <MKR> It works quite well, and sits in the system tray
[08:43] <auTONYmous> yep
[08:43] <KrakensDen> auTONYmous, well, the hidden essid shouldn't be an issue
[08:43] <nikin> Tony: wep? howmany bits...?
[08:43] <KrakensDen> auTONYmous, are you in GNOME or xfce?
[08:43] <Fenster> I had smartftp on xp.. I really liked it
[08:43] <auTONYmous> gnome
[08:43] <Fenster> im lookin for somethin similar
[08:44] <auTONYmous> 128-bit
[08:44] <Luke> does anyone know if there is a way to change the f-spot import directory?
[08:44] <KrakensDen> 128-bit WEP?
[08:44] <MKR> This works about as well as smartftp
[08:44] <nikin> 128 bit sux with network managger
[08:44] <auTONYmous> yep
[08:44] <jayt> anyone know a 3D audio howto anywhere?
[08:44] <soundray> nikin: too laborious -- I'd have to turn each image into a layer, or wouldn't I? Any other ideas?
[08:44] <krazykit> Fenster: the 2 GUI ftp apps i like are gftp and filezilla (which is still under heavy devel)
[08:44] <Fenster> MKR, .. gftp or kftpgrabber
[08:44] <Tamale> tambo:  if you have a good password, the difficulty of hacking two passwords instead of one is insignificant
[08:44] <MKR> kftpgrapper
[08:44] <MKR> gftp is more like WS_FTP
[08:44] <jayt> !root
[08:44] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:44] <KrakensDen> auTONYmous, have you tried using the normal GNOME networking thing?
[08:44] <tambu> flannel I don't give anyone root password. except me. so for someone to get in its 2 passwords to crack instead of one. Since i spend half my life watching iddiots trying to ssh to my boxes on the cable network trying various user/names and passwords..
[08:45] <jmelloy> You should get a new hobby.
[08:45] <TheGame> Luke: what do you mean about fspot
[08:45] <nikin> soundray, the most move editing progs like pitivi, can use images as source to, but Pitivi cant mane mpeg, as far as i know
[08:45] <auTONYmous> krakensden: that's even worse than NM
[08:45] <fangorious> tambu: unless they exploit a remote root vulnerability
[08:45] <TheGame> like so it doesnt import to /home/usr/photos?
[08:45] <Fenster> does kftpgrabber work in gnome?
[08:45] <tyler_d> sharing a printer to a windows machine???
[08:45] <MKR> yeah
[08:45] <TheGateKeeper> fyrestrtr: not giving me the info I want and mount -t etc /dev/hda1 hdd gives me wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock etc etc
[08:45] <fangorious> auTONYmous: you can hand edit /etc/network/interfaces to hard code your wep settings
[08:46] <nikin> tyler: samba
[08:46] <BlueEagle> tambu: The people attempting to brute get unauthorized logins.. do you do anythign about them?
[08:46] <tyler_d> running that
[08:46] <auTONYmous> fangorious: what if I have two diff networks? (One home, one work)
[08:46] <nikin> edit the pronter related lines in the smb.conf
[08:46] <TheGame> auTONYmous: have you tried network-manager?
[08:46] <easytiger> ui've just plugged a new monitor into my machine running ubuntu... how can i get it to recognise it?
[08:46] <TheGame> i use it for wep
[08:46] <tyler_d> nikin: did that
[08:46] <tambu> BlueEagle: course 3 failed logins they ip gets disallowed. doesn't stop the flood they just change ips
[08:46] <TheGame> and wpa
[08:46] <nikin> its just some uncommenting, it is not evil
[08:46] <auTONYmous> TheGame: YES, YES, and YES...
[08:46] <soundray> nikin: thanks! I'll have a look at that
[08:46] <fangorious> auTONYmous: some people smarter than me have figured out how to do multiple networks with the interfaces file, but I just use NetworkManager
[08:46] <TheGateKeeper> fyrestrtr: I am presently running a livecd, would like the info you get in fstab of the hard disk
[08:47] <TheGame> whats wrong with it/
[08:47] <Tamale> tambu:  if your password is a dictionary word or something else really poorly chosen, only then you have a valid concern.  if this is the case, then by all means enable the root account and take away your user's full sudo privs
[08:47] <tyler_d> nikin I will keep playing
[08:47] <KrakensDen> auTONYmous, do you get error messages?
[08:47] <auTONYmous> fangorious: I haven't tried my home net yet, since it's not encrypted, but the one here at work is givin me the blues
[08:47] <MKR> Think 14 charachters is too paranoid for a password?
[08:47] <nikin> tyler: do you use cups?
[08:47] <Fenster> ok MKR .. im gonna install that.. what about a good guibased ftp server???? I used guildftp in xp
[08:47] <Flamekebab> Does anyone know why Kino doesn't have a "delete clip" menu, keyboard shortcut, option, etc.. ?
[08:47] <auTONYmous> krakensden: no. It just never connects, and keeps asking for the key
[08:47] <jmelloy> it's amazing how much fasgter screensavers are when opengl is active
[08:47] <BlueEagle> tambu: Did you ever concider that these might be infected machines and that notifying their ISP might be a prudent step to take?
[08:47] <MKR> I've never had a need to run one, so I'll let someone else answer than =P
[08:47] <Fenster> heh
[08:48] <MKR> *that
[08:48] <fangorious> auTONYmous: are you typing in the hex key, and ascii key, or a passprhase?
[08:48] <tambu> Tamale: two passwords are always more secure there are any number of hacks /key loggers that may log my password if my system gets compromised. but if my account password is compromised hard password or not.. then my whole system is compromised as the user can sudo and get full privs.
[08:48] <auTONYmous> fangorious: hex key. It's what was shared.
[08:48] <Fenster> does anyone know a good gui based ftp server for gnome?
[08:48] <tambu> BlueEagle: yeah you obviously never tried that :P You just get an email back saying that they appreciate your concern and they will look into it :)
[08:49] <auTONYmous> fangorious: works on windblows...
[08:49] <BlueEagle> fenster: You can install something like webmin or something.
[08:49] <Tamale> tambu:  i'm sorry, but that logic is completely wrong.
[08:49] <Tamale> tambu:  Password security is exponential in  nature
[08:49] <fangorious> auTONYmous: have you tried typing it in with  and without '0x' in front of it?
[08:49] <MKR> Tambu, like has been said, it's fairly easy to make ubuntu use a root login instead of sudo. Enough people like sudo to where it's default, but the lovely thing about linux is that you can change it to a behavior you prefer
[08:49] <Tamale> adding another password of the same difficulty level adds NO negligible security
[08:49] <auTONYmous> fangorious: I'll try that
[08:49] <BlueEagle> tambu: Well I did it for approx six months and three corp. sysadmins personally emailed me and thanked for notifying them about their compromized machines.
[08:50] <tambu> MKR I understand I just find it discouraging that their isn't an option in the install to choose this
[08:50] <BlueEagle> tambu: I sit with two free webhosts thanks to my efforts. :)
[08:50] <KrakensDen> auTONYmous, http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManagerHardware
[08:50] <MKR> tambu, suggest it on whatever suggestion tracker ubuntu uses
[08:50] <Luke> does anyone know if there is a way to change the f-spot import directory?
[08:50] <MKR> I don't know what they use but I'm sure there is one
[08:50] <MKR> I'm all for choice, and it seems easy enough to implement
[08:50] <__mikem> Hey, I just installed xgl, but I don't notice anything different, what do I do
[08:51] <tambu> Tamale no password is secure. they can always be accessed lost.. half the world uses the same password for everything they do on the internet
[08:51] <KrakensDen> __mikem, there is an #ubuntu-xgl channel
[08:51] <KrakensDen> __mikem, they're probably going to be better at this
[08:52] <auTONYmous> krankensden: been there. I'm supported. Intel 2915
[08:52] <auTONYmous> fangorious: the key length is incorrect with the 0x in front.
[08:52] <auTONYmous> oops...
[08:52] <Tamale> tambu:  good passwords are quite secure in a realm where guessing can only be done in a slowed down, protected manner
[08:52] <tambu> Thanks for the input everyone, and the faq on how to fix it. I just feel this "ease of use" over security is a slippery slope. I am looking into activating my root account per the faq flannel suggested
[08:53] <fangorious> auTONYmous: it's been so long since i used WEP, having trouble remembering
[08:53] <tambu> Tamale: yes perhaps a "good" password is... do you really think that everyone out there uses a "good" password and a different "good" password everywhere?
[08:53] <Tamale> good luck tambu.. i'm really not against you here.. it's just i've struggled with the same thoughts for a long time until i took some high-level security courses
[08:53] <auTONYmous> fangorious: I ASKED why they weren't using WPA...couldn't get a straight answer
[08:53] <jayt> !root > tambu
[08:54] <Tamale> tambu:  I agree.. but think the emphasis should be placed on having people choose good passwords during the ubuntu install rather than enabling root.
[08:54] <jayt> tambu, that is really the untimate read on root, the link the bot just sent you
[08:54] <MKR> tambu, someone that uses a bad password will probably have just as bad a password for a root login =P
[08:54] <fangorious> auTONYmous: did you ask what the passprhase used to generate the key was? might have better luck with that
[08:54] <tambu> jayt: I'm not sure what thats supposed to imply.. I'm not saying people should not have sudu I'm sure for people that like the ease of use.. it can be there.. but it should be an option in the install.
[08:54] <trine_> a lot of wireless cards and router can only use WEP
[08:54] <MKR> !tracker
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tracker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <MKR> bah
[08:54] <tambu> MKR: True but again it's 2 bad passwords instead of one :)
[08:55] <auTONYmous> fangorious: it's Saturday...I'm here all by myself, and besides...the network team Nazis wouldn't tell me anyway if I DID ask.
[08:55] <Tamale> tambu:  Consider this:  if someone is prone to choosing bad passwords, won't they choose a bad password for both their own account AND root?
[08:55] <tambu> jayt: hrm... sorry I must have missed the link.. I'll scroll back up.
[08:55] <Tamale> tambu:  possibly even WORSE since they have to remember two now
[08:55] <MKR> IT'sa good idea
[08:55] <fangorious> auTONYmous: that's crazy, you already have the key, all you're going to do with the passphrase is generate the key!
[08:55] <jayt> tambu, the bot ubotu messaged you
[08:55] <auTONYmous> hmm...maybe a hex to ascii converter would help
[08:55] <Fensta> anyone had luck with dapper and a canon pixma printer
[08:55] <alba6-> Hi, how do I disable file system checking of fat partitions when booting?
[08:55] <utab> TheGateKeeper, hello you are always online
[08:55] <tambu> Tamale: by your same argument then they would have chosen that same bad password for their single login to ubuntu.. so yes two bad passwords are still better than 1 bad password.
[08:56] <tambu> jayt: ah that would be why :) thx
[08:56] <tamp4x> hi, i have a bradcom wireless card, using the bcwm 4318 driver, the interfaces load and all, interfaces says it sends out packets but it doesnt receive any...wtf?
[08:56] <Tamale> tambu:  It's insecure either way
[08:56] <TheGateKeeper> yep but got problems of my own :-)
[08:56] <Tamale> tambu:  which is why i'm arguing more emphasis should be placed on having people choose good passwords rather than changing the password structure
[08:56] <utab> TheGateKeeper, another problem maybe easy in kde, my keyboard is locked
[08:56] <tamp4x> anyone here have the 4318 driver working properly?
[08:56] <tambu> Tamale: insecure yes.. more secure at least though.
[08:56] <Tamale> haha
[08:57] <Tamale> no NEARLY as secure as one good password.
[08:57] <jayt> Tamale, they did not change the login structure, sudo is around over 25 years
[08:57] <fangorious> anyhoo, that's all for me. good luck auTONYmous
[08:57] <Tamale> jayt:  i'm not suggesting they change from sudo
[08:57] <utab> keyboard locked in KDE
[08:57] <Tamale> i think it's setup well
[08:57] <tambu> Tamale yes.. and until they world does why not offer them the added security.
[08:57] <Tamale> 'cause it's not added!
[08:57] <Tamale> you're not listening
[08:57] <tambu> jayt: thx flannel gave it to me.. I'm reading it while listening to the points of view.
[08:57] <Tamale> :[
[08:57] <cRx^> how i can "unbind" f1 (help) from the gnome terminal?
[08:57] <hlabs> HI. I need some help . How can i setup my linux box to act as a network file server. Like i want my windows pc to store all files on the linux box
[08:58] <jayt> !root > Tamale
[08:58] <tamp4x> also when i try to install limewire i get all these java errors with the gtk java packge...
[08:58] <jayt> Tamale, you got your own copy now :)
[08:58] <Tamale> jayt:  i'
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> !samba > hlabs
[08:58] <Tamale> *sigh*  nevermind.
[08:58] <KrakensDen> hlabs, system->administration->shared folders
[08:58] <Juhaz> cRx^, edit->keyboard shortcuts?
[08:58] <hlabs> but it does not work
[08:58] <avu> !tell hlabs about samba
[08:58] <jenda> Is there a way to DL rtsp:// movies?
[08:58] <tambu> Tamale ... not added? obviously its not added.. you add an option to the installer so that when people start the setup they have the option.. those people that want a sudu!root system can use it.. but those that don't can choose a more traditional method.
[08:58] <utab> anybody experienced keyboard locking in KDE
[08:59] <hlabs> windows machine simply cannot look for anything outside its workgroup
[08:59] <cRx^> Juhaz: nope, that dosen't work. F1 still show the stupid help. :/
[08:59] <Tamale> tambu:  i'm asking you to re-think that added option from the ubuntu developers standpoint..  it will only confuse people
[08:59] <tambu> I need to reboot updates were installed. may join in a few.. thanks guys :)
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> cRx^: you need to edit the global shortcut list. I think its in System > Preferences
[08:59] <Tamale> tambu:  and it's "added security" of the more traditional method is only a false-sense of added security that's paltry in comparison to the teaching of the importance of good passwords
[09:00] <tambu> Tamale as with all things it requires explaination just like the updater i just used had drop down boxes to that allowed you to see the changes made and security problems fixed.
[09:00] <Tamale> anyway this is off-topic
[09:00] <tambu> Tamale no matter how good a password is it can always be comprimised.. 2 password of equal level of strength are always more secure :)
[09:00] <tambu> Tamale thanks for the chat :)
[09:00] <m6> Something is broken.......when I click the log out Shutdown and reboot have disapeared
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> tambu: Tamale take it to -offtopic
[09:01] <Tamale> he's gone
[09:01] <MKR> had to reboot for some updates
[09:01] <Tamale> it's just very, very frustrating when people try to 'teach' other people about thing they really are not well-schooled on.
[09:01] <utab> my keyboard is locked in KDE, any ideas
[09:01] <Carmen-> Why is ubuntu so slow making Package?
[09:01] <Carmen-> how do i make FAST .tar files
[09:01] <Carmen-> i need to backup my whole disc
[09:02] <Carmen-> does not have to have any compression
[09:02] <cRx^> fyrestrtr: there is no f1 hotkey defined
[09:02] <Carmen-> just to make everything go under one file
[09:02] <soundray> nikin: have you heard of mpeg2enc?
[09:03] <TheGateKeeper> how do you mount your hard disk if you are running from a LiveCD??
[09:03] <utab> Carmen, what do you want to know?, see a backup guide it will give you clues
[09:03] <MKR> system->administration->disks
[09:03] <cRx^> this is a strange bug, i can unbind f1 temporary in the gnome terminal session, but if i open a new one the f1 hotkey popup the shit help..
[09:03] <DShepherd> Carmen-:  tar -cvvf foo.tar foo/
[09:04] <Carmen-> DShepherd will that be fast?
[09:04] <Carmen-> so i dont have to wait for hours
[09:04] <MKR> Footar sounds like a scifi villian
[09:04] <Carmen-> i dont need any compression
[09:05] <DShepherd> Carmen-: it depends on the amount of stuff you tarring..
[09:05] <MKR> carmen, the nature of copying a mass of files is that it will take a while
[09:05] <Carmen-> DShepherd my whole harddisc
[09:05] <utab> Carmen, you want to backup a drive so it will take some time depending on the number of files that are archieved
[09:05] <MKR> Unless you have some impossibly fast disk
[09:05] <Carmen-> i have 2gigs of files
[09:05] <Carmen-> tryed to make .tar with GUI
[09:05] <MKR> 2gb will take a while
[09:05] <urakaipa> hi there, question about nice icons on desktop, that ubuntu creates for the automounted drives (eg ntfs partition): how to create some custom ones? because i recently switch to ntfs-fuse for read/write access on ntfs filesystems and after mounting the incons do not appears. thx
[09:05] <Carmen-> dude
[09:05] <utab> Carmen, 20 min
[09:05] <Carmen-> windows can do it in 5min
[09:05] <utab> Carmen- I guess
[09:05] <Carmen-> i dont need ANY compression
[09:06] <Carmen-> just make the files go in one file
[09:06] <MKR> It's still copying
[09:06] <utab> Carmen- also depends on the system ;)
[09:06] <waspius> i want to install a window manager that is not as heavy as kde and gnome but that i can add panels etc
[09:07] <utab> Carmen see the tar manual and go ahead there
[09:07] <soundray> urakaipa: I believe drives mounted under /media/ receive desktop icons. So if you make your mountpoint /media/ntfs-fuse or similar, it should work
[09:07] <utab> has anyone experienced keyboard lock in kubuntu
[09:08] <ketsugi> utab: perhaps you'd best ask in #kubuntu
[09:08] <DShepherd> utab: have you asked the guys in #kubuntu?
[09:08] <ramvi> I'm trying to install ubuntu without bootcamp on a macbook pro. I'm in ubuntu with the live cd. And I've Chrooted the HD. I'm suppost to get a file. But how do I get do that? I'm only on the real HD with a shell...
[09:08] <[b] urk> waspius, what do you mean panels?
[09:08] <foo> When my ubuntu server starts it loads things like RAID, LVM, PCMCIA ... I don't want these, how do I remove them. Also, what the heck is a PCMCIA service doing on a server install? Heh.
[09:08] <ramvi> This is what I'm doing http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233243
[09:08] <ketsugi> foo: it might be in the kernel or something... you installed the server iso?
[09:08] <foo> ketsugi: Yes sir
[09:09] <ketsugi> Odd then! I wouldn't know, since I don't run a Ubuntu server :)
[09:09] <ramvi> I need serious help. I'm connected with my N70 phone... I'm trying to install ubuntu without bootcamp on a macbook pro. I'm in ubuntu with the live cd. And I've Chrooted the HD. I'm suppost to get a file. But how do I get do that? I'm only on the real HD with a shell... This is what I'm doing http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233243
[09:09] <waspius> [b] urk: u know panels that look like mac etc.that will use resources but will not use as much as having kde also
[09:09] <Carmen-> i need some cool way to put 357239files in one file
[09:09] <Carmen-> fast
[09:09] <urakaipa> foo maybe you can try sysv-rc-conf package
[09:09] <Carmen-> without compression
[09:10] <__mikem> I need help with xgl, and noone is answering any questions in ubuntu-xgl, and by that I mean, there are about 3 users in there trying to get help and recieving absolutely no responce
[09:10] <ramvi> Is there or is it possible to make a shared directory between the livecd-hd and the real-hd? I need to install an app on the real hd from the live-hd
[09:11] <waspius> [b] urk: someone told me to try xfce..???
[09:12] <fyrestrtr> Carmen-: burn a dvd
[09:12] <lamego> ramvi, you just need to boot the live on rescue mode for that
[09:12] <[b] urk> waspius, xfce has panels like gnome, and its lighter than gnome, but still, many others are even lighter
[09:12] <foo> urakaipa: sweet. This is like a nicer chkconfig.
[09:12] <lamego> CarinArr, tar cvf file.tar files
[09:12] <waspius> [b] urk: ie???
[09:12] <ramvi> lamego, is there a recue mode on dapper? on the expert cd...
[09:12] <foo> How can I find out what init I am in ?
[09:12] <[b] urk> fluxbox, but it doesnt have "panels"
[09:12] <lamego> RamiKassab, there is a rescue mode on the live cd
[09:13] <lamego> which will boot and create a chroot into your hd
[09:13] <waspius> [b] urk: can i add some?
[09:13] <urakaipa> great, so it also works under server. yes it's easy to manage all services
[09:13] <[b] urk> but there are many other ways of doing what you do with your panels without panels
[09:13] <lamego> allow you to install using apt-get install
[09:13] <waspius> [b] urk: how?
[09:14] <jenda> Does anyone know anything about rtsp
[09:14] <jenda> ?
[09:14] <jenda> I need help capturing a movie _I_ act in :(
[09:14] <jenda> I have 45 minutes...
[09:14] <Xeeky> what's recommended for coding software...
[09:14] <urakaipa> foo the S level is immediatly after booting up, and for the others.. is better to read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491 :)
[09:15] <foo> urakaipa: Right. It's called runlevel I think. I just don't know what I'm in now. 2 or 3 I think
[09:15] <[b] urk> waspius, what do you want to do?
[09:15] <Druidor> evenin all
[09:16] <Sortilege> bonsoir tout le monde
[09:16] <waspius> [b] urk: make it look really nice..but by using much less resources than kde..and not look as bad as fluxbox on its own
[09:17] <urakaipa> foo 2 to 5 are for multiuser environment
[09:17] <foo> urakaipa: I don't see any of the RAID stuff or pcmcia stuff in here. hm, I do see | rc.local    [ ]      [X]   ... should I look in a directory or something?
[09:17] <foo> urakaipa: Yes, I know. I just forget how to spit out the current runlevel, bah
[09:17] <foo> hm
[09:18] <digit> hi  all
[09:18] <Druidor> lo digit
[09:18] <urakaipa> foo, sure? any pcmcia entry?
[09:18] <buntu418> how to change amarok as the default media player in ubuntu
[09:18] <urakaipa> foo raid is mdadm
[09:18] <digit> well i cant get my game to work right so 3d is still messed
[09:19] <capiCrimm> if I buy a 64bit processor, it should be back-compatible with 32bit packages, right?
[09:19] <foo> urakaipa: ahh, then I see these. I didn't know it was mdadm. hmm, thanks. Actually, I see pcmciauti ... but it is only checked on S. What runlevel is S ? Hm
[09:19] <|thunder> capiCrimm, yep yep
[09:19] <capiCrimm> |thunder, good, though so. :D
[09:19] <|thunder> S is not a runlevel.
[09:20] <whiter> whats the ubuntu xgl channel
[09:20] <sof> what do i need to get full 3d acceleration and opengl direct rendering with an "Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics" ?
[09:20] <digit> hey question is dri and glx a kernel  module
[09:20] <whiter> sof, it works out the box i think
[09:21] <sof> hmm but why does the cedega test fails then?
[09:21] <foo> |thunder: I didn't think so. But it's loading up. What is S?
[09:21] <whiter> well lets see
[09:21] <|thunder> no idea. i havent mucked with my runlevels in ages.   since red hat 9
[09:22] <urakaipa> foo, S is the first one, you can the call it System i guess. and pcmcia is right under S because has to set up the pcmcia controller which is hardware
[09:22] <DShepherd> buntu418: one way is to right click the file.. choose properties.. then open with and chose the program you want to play the file with
[09:22] <Fensta> sudo ./install-iP1500 <---------I get a command not found error
[09:22] <Fensta> whats wrong witht hat?
[09:22] <Fensta> the filename is install-ip1500
[09:22] <DShepherd> buntu418: got that?
[09:22] <waspius> [b] urk: any ideas?
[09:22] <Garminar> Fensta, try: sudo sh install-ip500
[09:23] <Fensta> hrmmz
[09:23] <Fensta> no such file or dir
[09:23] <Fensta> that is bizarre
[09:23] <foo> urakaipa: I see
[09:23] <whiter> http://en.opensuse.org/Xgl @ sof
[09:23] <Garminar> is it executable?
[09:23] <Fensta> wrong dir I guess
[09:23] <Fensta> I got it working now
[09:24] <Fensta> I thought I was in the right dir
[09:24] <sof> thanx :D
[09:24] <Fensta> guess not :\
[09:24] <digit> well dam at least someone has
[09:24] <kitsuneofdoom> Hey....not exactly an OS question, but I want to move my mail from a Kmail maildir to Evolution. I've tried adding the maildir as a dummy account, but to no avail. it doesn't pick up the messages
[09:24] <sonja-ny> can anyone point me out a guide to migrate from fed4 to ubuntu i did look at the topic pages but got lost thanks
[09:24] <richiefrich> DShepherd yo man
[09:24] <DShepherd> richiefrich: hey
[09:24] <Fensta> user@desktop : I guess is not actuallay in the Desktop folder is it?
[09:24] <richiefrich> how u been man
[09:24] <shawnr_> Whats the best/simplest Bittorrent program?
[09:25] <richiefrich> shawnr_ rtorrent..
[09:25] <Flannel> shawnr_: the one already installed, btdownload (with numerous frontends)
[09:25] <SonicChao> How do you change the default application Ubuntu opens a file?
[09:25] <neighborlee> kitsuneofdoom,possibly try a different format mail account
[09:25] <richiefrich> shawnr_ rtorrent..   runs in screen
[09:25] <SonicChao> I'd like Ubuntu to open PDF with Xpdf, but it always chooses "Document Viewer"
[09:25] <exs> Best way to quickly fix my no sound?.. It usually works fine in mepis when I do the alsa config thing, but I forgot how to do it
[09:25] <|thunder> SonicChao, if you figure it out, let me know.
[09:25] <buntu418> DShepherd: please check the private msg
[09:25] <oblib> If I recompile the kernel and it doesn't help I can always go back to the standard kernel, right?
[09:26] <richiefrich> SonicChao then change them into .ps
[09:26] <digit> running glx gears and i can tell you its supposed to be smooth and it is not
[09:26] <ttyfscker> oblib:: yes you can
[09:26] <richiefrich> SonicChao and get a ps reader
[09:26] <SonicChao> richiefrich: That's isn't the point.
[09:26] <ttyfscker> oblib:: just dont delete your kernel img and the ramdisk img
[09:26] <kitsuneofdoom> neighborlee: I tried importing it as a maildir And as a mailbox
[09:26] <waspius> [b] urk: i basically want a desktop where i will put anything i want on it..make it nearly from scratch
[09:26] <SonicChao> richiefrich: If I want to open .mp3 with Totem instead of amaroK, then what would I do? (example)
[09:26] <oblib> ttyfscker: then do I just change what I boot to in lilo or grub or whatever?
[09:26] <ttyfscker> anybody in here using the i810 graphics driver and got dual screen setup working?
[09:26] <digit> anyone need a videocard
[09:27] <richiefrich> SonicChao u open it
[09:27] <mssngrtrck> hi
[09:27] <ttyfscker> oblib:: first let me ask you, what is your reason for recompiling the kernel?
[09:27] <richiefrich> SonicChao  in whatever app u want
[09:27] <neighborlee> kitsuneofdoom, I take it there is no export in kmail ..not familiar with kmail at all
[09:27] <SonicChao> richiefrich: I want to change what happens when you double-click it
[09:27] <richiefrich> SonicChao  do u mean through nautilus ?
[09:27] <richiefrich> then do it
[09:27] <shawnr_> What about bittornado?
[09:27] <SonicChao> richiefrich: I don't want to go around twisted roads in "Applicatons" to find what I need!
[09:27] <urakaipa> now.. how can i create a desktop shortcut that appears when I mount my drives? it only works with the mountpoint that ubuntu creates during the setup.
[09:27] <dalila> why would ubuntu have dirvers for all lexmark zXX with the exception of Z45
[09:27] <SonicChao> richiefrich: I want to change the default it opens in.....
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> SonicChao: right click, open with > other application -- when you get to that window, there is an option to always open with this application.
[09:28] <SonicChao> fyrestrtr: Thank you...=)
[09:28] <oblib> ttyfscker: the gamecon module doesn't work in Dapper, and was fixed in 2.6.16
[09:28] <SonicChao> fyrestrtr: I don't see that option.
[09:29] <|thunder> urakaipa, anything that is mounted should show on the desktop
[09:29] <ttyfscker> oblib:: you can just compile that driver as a module and modprobe it into your current kernel, without having to recompile the whole kernel
[09:29] <solus_> hello, is anyone in who might know about monitor problems on 6.06
[09:29] <SonicChao> !anyone > solus_
[09:29] <richiefrich> SonicChao are  u in nautilus?
[09:29] <jenda> Please, does anyone know ANYTHING about rtsp:// feed? I really need to download a few movies, legally.
[09:29] <bruenig> !anyone
[09:29] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:29] <SonicChao> richiefrich: I'm on my desktop
[09:29] <ttyfscker> solus_:: whats the problem ?
[09:29] <tchmnkyz> hey all
[09:29] <oblib> ttyfscker: can you point me to how to do that?
[09:29] <SonicChao> !anyone > jenda
[09:29] <bruenig> lol funny factoid
[09:29] <bruenig> that will be useful
[09:30] <ttyfscker> oblib:: find the gamecon source code
[09:30] <oblib> ttyfscker: I tried and it wouldn't accept the module as valid
[09:30] <richiefrich> SonicChao then u can open ..   nautilus and goto that file u wanna open
[09:30] <kitsuneofdoom> Hey....not exactly an OS question, but I want to move my mail from a Kmail maildir to Evolution. I've tried adding the maildir as a dummy account, but to no avail. it doesn't pick up the messages
[09:30] <jenda> Haha, thank you, SonicChao. It was a rethoric thing, since I've laready asked twice. I know the factoid very well :-D
[09:30] <ttyfscker> oblib:: what did you do exactly?
[09:30] <solus_> thanks, well, it worked fine on high res the last 2 weeks, i turned it on today and it was 640x480 and wont change, and i didnt do anything with the settingsof the monitor at all yesterday other than change my backgrund image and screensaver
[09:30] <oblib> ttyfscker: the .c file is all I should need right?
[09:30] <tchmnkyz> i am trying to setup my ubuntu install on my laptop to use my wireless. it says the broadcom card is installed right and everything but how do i get it to use the WPA key i have?
[09:30] <SonicChao> jenda: Ok. =D
[09:30] <richiefrich> SonicChao and right click on it then in that menu change the app it opens with.. desktop is nautilus  if our in gnome
[09:31] <urakaipa> |thunder: yes it works with usb keys and cdrom drives also. but I just moved from ntft to ntfs-fuse for read/write my ntfs partitions and these mountpoint won't come up on the desktop
[09:31] <ttyfscker> oblib:: you should have a source tree for it.. and you need to run make against the sourcetree's Makefile
[09:31] <SonicChao> richiefrich: Please, English.
[09:31] <oblib> ttyfscker: well, I compiled a whole kernel because I don't know how to do just the module and get a .ko out of it
[09:31] <richiefrich> SonicChao open nautilus
[09:31] <oblib> ttyfscker: but I'm guessing it doesn't like to mix kernel modules
[09:31] <|thunder> urakaipa, is the drive still being auto-mounted ?
[09:31] <SonicChao> richiefrich: I did, Open With Other Application gives me an optionless dialog-box with a list of files.
[09:31] <richiefrich> SonicChao goto that file u wanna open ...  RIGHT click on that file
[09:31] <buntu418> hey how to change default player from rhythembox to amarok
[09:31] <isoTop> http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6972/ubuntu5ui.png <<how do i make qt look like my GTK theme? or is it a qt theme that simillar to default ubuntu gtk theme?
[09:31] <richiefrich> Sonderblade ok then select what app u want
[09:32] <bruenig> SonicChao, i have never been able to figure out how to get it to open default with another app except through some symbolic links which is more of a work around than a solution
[09:32] <richiefrich> omg ppl
[09:32] <richiefrich> it's easy
[09:32] <xinfectis> whenever i try to run apt-get update i get a localhost connection refused error, is there a package i need to reconfigure for apt to connect properly?
[09:32] <ttyfscker> oblib:: if you have a module that already exists, and you want to compile a newer one, you will need to first rmmod modulename   and then insmod /path/to/module.ko
[09:32] <oblib> ttyfscker: by source tree do you mean an entire kernel source?
[09:32] <urakaipa> |thunder yes i edit the entries in fstab
[09:32] <SonicChao> richiefrich: I'm losing my patience...
[09:32] <ttyfscker> oblib:: no i just mean the source tree to that specific module
[09:32] <verbose> xinfectis: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out any lines that have to do with local repositories
[09:32] <oblib> ttyfscker: how would I get that?
[09:32] <richiefrich> Sonderblade in that dialog-box..  goto the app u want it to open with
[09:32] <Xeeky> how do i log into the system as owner?
[09:33] <SonicChao> !rootsudo Xeeky
[09:33] <cdubya> tchmnkyz, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rootsudo Xeeky - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <ttyfscker> oblib:: hang on
[09:33] <SonicChao> !rootsudo
[09:33] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:33] <richiefrich> Sonderblade  it's more then likly in  /usr/bin
[09:33] <xinfectis> verbose: none are local repos, all the ubuntu defaults
[09:33] <ttyfscker> its called gamecon  right?
[09:33] <verbose> xinfectis: i have no idea then
[09:34] <SonicChao> So there is no way to make Ubuntu a file was another application as defualt?
[09:34] <SonicChao> Sounds like a whole lot of choice to me.
[09:34] <bruenig> SonicChao, if you want a for sure way to make it open with the app you want. Rename the script or executable that starts amarok to something like amarok.old, then make a symbolic link for amarok that points towards totem
[09:34] <exs> I have a VIA8237 AC97 sound chip, and ubuntu has detected it (and seemed to have installed it), but there is no sound.
[09:35] <|thunder> ttyfscker, so, does that mean you, rmmod(remove the old module, install/copy the new module over, then insmod to reinitalize the new one ?
[09:35] <peace-keeper> if i do "init 0", will my xfce session be properly saved ?
[09:35] <ttyfscker> oblib:: what seems to be the issue with the gamecon module that is included in your kernel?
[09:35] <ttyfscker> |thunder:: no
[09:35] <SonicChao> bruenig: Um, I'm not following you, symbolic links?
[09:35] <oblib> ttyfscker: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/55355
[09:35] <xinfectis> could not having apt-proxy installed cause apt to not connect to the ubuntu repos?
[09:36] <ttyfscker> |thunder:: it means that you rmmod gamecon, then you insmod  the newly compiled one.. there is no copying anything over
[09:36] <|thunder> ttyfscker, no overwriting older mod with new one ? or is that what inmod does ?
[09:36] <|thunder> *insmod
[09:36] <Stirk> Is there a way to install Ubuntu with the Live CD without actually booting from the CD..?
[09:36] <richiefrich> Sonderblade  did u find it
[09:36] <SonicChao> Stirk: I doubt it...
[09:36] <xinfectis> Stirk, point grub at the CD?
[09:37] <isoTop> isoTop is there a way in gnome to see a preview of a photos in the folder icon? like vista  and kde has this feature too i think
[09:37] <jmelloy> so, I just recompiled alsa drivers
[09:37] <richiefrich> Sonderblade  what app are u looking fo
[09:37] <jmelloy> do I need to restart?
[09:37] <richiefrich> for*
[09:37] <|thunder> grub cant boot a CD
[09:37] <|thunder> or a floppy
[09:37] <ttyfscker> |thunder:: insmod just inserts a module into the kernel..
[09:37] <SonicChao> richiefrich: Why are you talking to Sonderblade???
[09:37] <bruenig> SonicChao, cd into /usr/bin as that is probably where the scripts and exectuables are then rename amarok to something else and then do ln -s totem amarok
[09:37] <Stirk> Peh :(
[09:37] <richiefrich> SonicChao my bad
[09:37] <richiefrich> SonicChao  in that dialog-box..  goto the app u want it to open with
[09:37] <secleinteer> hey, does any1 know how i can speed up printing?
[09:38] <richiefrich> SonicChao did u get all my replies then
[09:38] <|thunder> ttyfscker, ok, im going to do some researech on those two commands. kern mods are confusing to me because ive not mucked with them sufficently
[09:38] <SonicChao> bruenig: That was an example for richiefrich, because he was giving me a hard time, I really just want all PDF to open with Xpdf.
[09:38] <Stirk> So, I'd have to use the alternative CD?
[09:38] <richiefrich> SonicChao no i was telling u what to do
[09:38] <richiefrich> SonicChao u need to listen
[09:38] <dalila> !lexmark
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lexmark - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <Fensta> !pixma
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pixma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <ttyfscker> |thunder:: modprobe only inserts modules that are in the modules database for your current kernel.. insmod will insert modules that you have compiled
[09:38] <SonicChao> richiefrich: It's difficult to listen to people who say "u" and "omg ppl"
[09:38] <Fensta> !canon
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about canon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <richiefrich> SonicChao and i did say .usr/bin
[09:39] <Daveyboy> hi, is there a site with flash tutorials (wink, camtasia) for ubuntu/kubuntu?
[09:39] <dalila> !printing
[09:39] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:39] <AnI> hi im super noob to linux and failed to install xubuntu can anyone help me?
[09:39] <bruenig> SonicChao, not familiar with Xpdf, but it should still apply, rename the script or executable of the program you don't want to something else then create a symbolic link that takes the name of that program but points to xpdf
[09:39] <DShepherd> richiefrich: you mean /usr/bin
[09:39] <richiefrich> SonicChao then /ignore richiefrich all   works
[09:39] <richiefrich> DShepherd yes yes
[09:39] <Hagbarddenstore> Hey!
[09:39] <Hagbarddenstore> What's the command to rename a file?
[09:39] <Inc> richiefrich, == guy who hates bsd?
[09:39] <Hagbarddenstore> In shell
[09:39] <Inc> or was that someone else
[09:39] <DShepherd> Fensta: please msg ubotu privately. ... /msg ubotu phrase
[09:39] <bruenig> SonicChao, e.g. mv whatever whatever.old, then ln -s xpdf whatever
[09:39] <|thunder> ahh,thanks ttyfscker
[09:39] <richiefrich> Inc when did i say that
[09:40] <Fensta> thx dax
[09:40] <Inc> ok different person....
[09:40] <|thunder> Hagbarddenstore, mv
[09:40] <oblib> Hagbarddenstore: mv means move but works as rename too: mv file2 file1
[09:40] <richiefrich> Inc  get your crap right man
[09:40] <ddna> hello there how do i get my screen saver to work... ubuntu displays blank screen :(
[09:40] <|thunder> Hagbarddenstore, there is no rename
[09:40] <bruenig> when nautilus executes whatever, it will open xpdf instead of whatever
[09:40] <Inc> chill
[09:40] <SonicChao> bruenig: I don't know to much about Linux yet, I know that the executable is in /usr/bin/xpdf
[09:41] <|thunder> ddna, then chagne it to something else besides blank screen.  i like flurry
[09:41] <richiefrich> DShepherd i told the guy twice.. err 1st time i did with wrong nick but he doesnt listen
[09:41] <DShepherd> who do i used command line tools to repartion ext3 filesystem gparted not playing now
[09:41] <Hagbarddenstore> |thunder: Thansk!
[09:41] <AnI> hi im super noob to linux and failed to install xubuntu can anyone help me?
[09:41] <richiefrich> Inc  i am.. u accuse of of something
[09:41] <bruenig> SonicChao, ok and where is the executable that is running when  you click on it right now
[09:41] <DShepherd> not playing nice*
[09:41] <tchmnkyz> hey the broadcom drivers that come with ubuntu dont work? or what??
[09:41] <DShepherd> richiefrich: ok
[09:41] <bruenig> is it that dreaded document viewer
[09:41] <xinfectis> what would cause apt to redirect to the localhost for the repositories?
[09:41] <SonicChao> bruenig: I don't know.
[09:41] <Inc> richiefrich, don't trip or anything I asked before I accused
[09:41] <|thunder> AnI, what failed ?
[09:41] <SonicChao> bruenig: It's called "Document Viewer" though.
[09:42] <epitaf> J #ubuntu-studio
[09:42] <AnI> oh hy tunder
[09:42] <AnI> yeah i get blank screen
[09:42] <AnI> no gui
[09:42] <Inc> richiefrich, have fun bro
[09:42] <AnI> and opened the consol thing
[09:42] <crazy_penguin> Good evening all!
[09:42] <AnI> did dpkg-reconfig
[09:42] <AnI> but after that how do i restart the gui installation
[09:42] <ddna> i checked  screensaver preferences it had the thing as random... one point however is that ubuntu displays preview for some and not for others...
[09:42] <AnI> i just give me $
[09:42] <|thunder> AnI, you have nvidia or ati ?
[09:43] <AnI> nv
[09:43] <AnI> mx440
[09:43] <|thunder> you need too install nvidia drivers
[09:43] <AnI> how do i do taht?
[09:44] <haasteem> is it possible to split files with tar or something the like?
[09:44] <bruenig> SonicChao, ok I think I figured it out
[09:44] <lamego> haasteem, you can use split
[09:44] <|thunder> AnI, sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx. but then you have to change the line "Driver      "nv""    to    "Driver        "nvidia"" in /etc/X11/xoeg.conf   to enable the driver. its currently using the mesa driver which I have personally seen working on a mx440
[09:44] <lamego> pipe the result from tar to split
[09:44] <SonicChao> bruenig: Ok....so what am I supposed to do?
[09:45] <haasteem> lamego: ahh, that exists?
[09:45] <bruenig> SonicChao, do cd /usr/bin, then do sudo mv evince evince.old, then do ln -s xpdf evince
[09:45] <haasteem> lamego: and how do i do that?
[09:45] <SonicChao> bruenig: Just copy and paste those commands?
[09:45] <bruenig> Sonic Chao yep
[09:45] <xnszx> has anyone ported a flav of linux to a treo 650
[09:46] <AnI> thunder you mean xorg.conf rite?
[09:46] <robert_> blah
[09:46] <|thunder> AnI, yep, sry
[09:46] <AnI> and how do i change it?
[09:46] <AnI> with text editor?
[09:46] <AnI> emac?
[09:46] <robert_> I can't get (K)ubuntu to work properly
[09:46] <SonicChao> bruenig: Ok, did it.
[09:46] <bruenig> now double click on the file and hopefully it opens in xpdf
[09:47] <|thunder> yacc, try nano. its like old dos-edit.   ctrl-o to save(output) and ctrl-x to exit
[09:47] <Tamale> Anl:  nano is nice  :] 
[09:47] <tchmnkyz> robert_ dont feel bad i got all but my damn wireless working right now
[09:47] <Tamale> Speaking of which.. what's the difference between nano and pico
[09:47] <AnI> ty soo very much thunder
[09:47] <|thunder> AnI, NP
[09:47] <AnI> you have no idea no many time i banged my head
[09:47] <AnI> ty
[09:47] <|thunder> :
[09:47] <|thunder> )
[09:47] <oblib> AnI: there are a few weird things with the 440, see ...
[09:47] <oblib> AnI: hold on
[09:47] <SonicChao> bruenig: Nope, in fact now it doesn't open at all.
[09:47] <AnI> k
[09:47] <AnI> still here
[09:48] <|thunder> yacc, i could never get xgl to work properly on a 440
[09:48] <SonicChao> bruenig: It says "Opening fontforge-tutorial.pdf" for about 10 seconds then does nothing.
[09:48] <oblib> AnI: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074&highlight=latest+nvidia
[09:48] <|thunder> compiz works great, but xgl dosnt redraw the windows
[09:48] <lamego> haasteem, tar cjvf - directory | split -b 695m - archive_
[09:48] <bruenig> SonicChao, right click on it and hit open with document viewer just to make sure
[09:48] <oblib> AnI: follow the link there and there is a special step
[09:48] <haasteem> lamego: does split also work on a 4gb file?
[09:48] <|thunder> SonicChao, open it from  a console to see the error
[09:48] <SonicChao> bruenig: Way ahead of you, same thing.
[09:48] <|thunder> haasteem, sure
[09:48] <lamego> yes it does
[09:49] <lamego> if yoy already have the file you can just split it
[09:49] <oblib> AnI: he calls it Problem #7
[09:49] <oblib> but it can work
[09:49] <lamego> haasteem, on the terminal type: man split
[09:49] <lamego> :)
[09:49] <oblib> I have one too
[09:49] <AnI> ok oblib
[09:49] <SonicChao> Warning: Attempt to remove nonexistent passive grab
[09:49] <bruenig> SonicChao, ok well probably should undo all that I did get back to where you were before you do anything else
[09:49] <AnI> ty
[09:49] <Sate-hate> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[09:49] <Hagbarddenstore> Hey all! How do I change the font DPI X should use on fonts?
[09:49] <SonicChao> bruenig: Ok, how would I do that?
[09:49] <bruenig> SonicChao, cd /usr/bin, then sudo rm evince, then sudo mv evince.old evince
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> Hagbarddenstore: system > preferences > fonts
[09:50] <harisund> Is there any place where I can find a tutorial or something for creating .deb packages? Creating control files ... and all that stuff? I want something more than the simple checkinstall.
[09:50] <Hagbarddenstore> fyrestrtr:  On Xfce
[09:50] <Hagbarddenstore> harisund:  Check out the debain page
[09:50] <harisund> Or should I be asking on motu for that?
[09:50] <dpupp> im having a little toruble here setting up surround sound. i have an MKV file here which is a test file to send audio to each channel, but i only get my rear channels... and they are being seen as front... could someone guid eme on troubleshooting my surround sound?
[09:50] <harisund> Hagbarddenstore: which debian page? Debian documentation is just waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too huge. :)
[09:50] <haasteem> lamego: ok, the 695m in the command you gave, does that mean 695mb?
[09:50] <SonicChao> bruenig: Ok, at least now it opens again.
[09:50] <Hagbarddenstore> harisund:  Hmm.... Dunno
[09:50] <secleinteer> hey, does any1 know how i can speed up printing?
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> Hagbarddenstore: you can override it by modifying the x startup script, or if you put in the dimentions of your viewable desktop, then X will calculate it for you.
[09:51] <Hagbarddenstore> Had the correct URL some days ago...
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> secleinteer: get a faster printer?
[09:51] <Blissex> dpupp: the order of channels is not uniform. use 'speed-test -c 6 plug:surround51' to do the testing.
[09:51] <secleinteer> fyre: that's not what i mean
[09:51] <Hagbarddenstore> fyrestrtr:  X startup script?
[09:51] <secleinteer> i mean by reducing quality
[09:51] <|thunder> secleinteer, lower dpi
[09:51] <secleinteer> ok
[09:51] <robert_> tchmnkyz: the boot process won't progress beyond starting the kernel event manager
[09:51] <lamego> haasteem, it does
[09:51] <chiefinnovator> I'm having an issue using sudo chown
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> Hagbarddenstore: yeah, startx or whatever it is that launches X in xfce.
[09:51] <haasteem> lamego: cool
[09:51] <Hagbarddenstore> fyrestrtr:  Oh.. ok
[09:52] <Dimitrije> After instaling nvidia graphic drivers i have lost refresh rates for resolutions. For 1024x768 i have only 85Hz and there was 60>87hz. What is wrong and how do i set it back?
[09:52] <dpupp> Blissex,  i get: bash: speed-test: command not found
[09:52] <chiefinnovator> it tells me operation not permitted
[09:52] <chiefinnovator> any ideas?
[09:52] <haasteem> lamego: and i guess i can also split without tar-ing the files first, right?
[09:52] <oblib> ttyfscker: are you still there?
[09:52] <FantasticFoo> i
[09:52] <FantasticFoo> oops
[09:52] <chiefinnovator> I'm doing sudo so everything should be permitted, right?
[09:52] <lamego> haasteem, sure just use split
[09:52] <Blissex> dpupp: sorry, that was 'speaker-test' and the test of the arguments the same.
[09:52] <chiefinnovator> I also tried gksudo with nautilius
[09:52] <chiefinnovator> and same problem
[09:52] <pluma> Anyone have an idea why I can't connect to some servers (most notably Wikipedia -- I always get a Look Up timeout) from my Ubuntu box although the Windows boxen on the same network don't have the problem? I already disabled IPv6 as per the wiki and that fixed the look up lag I had before, but now this.
[09:52] <lamego> cat file | split
[09:52] <haasteem> lamego: alright, i'll give it a try...thanks
[09:53] <FantasticFoo> i've installed xubuntu, but now, after switching to gnome, i can't figure out how to get the startup thing to just say "ubuntu" instead of "xubuntu" and the gdm theme to go back
[09:53] <Xeeky> can i access files on an ntfs partition from ubuntu?
[09:53] <chiefinnovator> it's a 0 byte file, owned by root
[09:53] <chiefinnovator> with no permissions
[09:53] <Dimitrije> Xeeky, yes.
[09:53] <|thunder> dpupp, try speaker-test
[09:53] <chiefinnovator> umm
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> pluma: your windows box probably have the dns lookups cached. Could be an issue with your dns servers. Can you dig the domain without problems?
[09:53] <bruenig> what is the printer command in adobe reader, I try to print but it asks for a printer command. The one it gives you by default doesn't work
[09:53] <lamego> pluma, have you checked your dns configuration ?
[09:53] <chiefinnovator> can I get some attention ...
[09:53] <Xeeky> how would i go about doing that
[09:53] <lamego> Xeeky, read-only, you can
[09:53] <SonicChao> FantasticFoo: I've had the same problem a while ago
[09:53] <Dimitrije> Xeeky, use this for more informations.
[09:53] <Dimitrije> !fusion
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <dpupp> Blissex, whoa! the whole thing is out of order. ^_^  front left plays out my rear-left... and so on.
[09:54] <Dimitrije> Ups, how is it called i forgot :(
[09:54] <FantasticFoo> SonicChao: did ya ever get it fixed?
[09:54] <Dimitrije> !fuse
[09:54] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[09:54] <jenda> Can anyone tell me a bit about streamripper?
[09:54] <Blissex> dpupp: probably you gotten the socket color codes wrong.
[09:54] <SonicChao> FantasticFoo: Yes, I did. Let me look up the commands I used.
[09:54] <lamego> bruenig, lpr -P printer_name
[09:54] <FantasticFoo> SonicChao: thanks!
[09:54] <Xeeky> !fusion?
[09:54] <Blissex> dpupp: front is green, back if black.
[09:54] <chiefinnovator> any advice at all?
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fusion? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <Bowels> bonjour tout le monde
[09:54] <SonicChao> FantasticFoo: May take a couple minutes...
[09:54] <Bowels> quel est la commande pour peupl les partition svp ?
[09:54] <erUSUL> !fr
[09:54] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:54] <chiefinnovator> no one has ever heard of this?
[09:54] <riddlebox> are serial port drivers loaded as modules in the default kernel
[09:54] <Bowels> woot
[09:55] <Locke> anyone know about setting the mouse up right
[09:55] <Locke> i have a mx700 i cant get to work right
[09:55] <chiefinnovator> no?
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> !mouse
[09:55] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[09:55] <bruenig> lamego, finally it works, you don't know how long that has bugged me
[09:55] <dpupp> thats possible, but i set it up in windows, and they all play out the right channels... i'd hate to have to be swapping around plugs... (but then again i may be dropping windows at this rate if everything goes well with everything else.
[09:55] <jillc> has anyone purchased "The official Ubuntu Book" yet?
[09:55] <Locke> i followed a howto, but when i try to run xmodmap -e 1 2 3 whatever it says "must have 11 buttons instead of 7"
[09:55] <chiefinnovator> why is noone helping me?
[09:55] <chiefinnovator> can anyone hear me?
[09:55] <Jbirk> I can hear you
[09:55] <Jbirk> What do you need?
[09:55] <chiefinnovator> sorry
[09:55] <Jbirk> I just signed in
[09:55] <FantasticFoo> chiefinnovator: i can't hear you
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> !anyone
[09:55] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:55] <secleinteer> i can't hear you either lol
[09:56] <SonicChao> chiefinnovator: We hear you, we just don't know the solution.
[09:56] <chiefinnovator> I'm trying sudo chown
[09:56] <lamego> bruenig, ;)
[09:56] <secleinteer> and?
[09:56] <Jbirk> Okay
[09:56] <chiefinnovator> and it says operation not permitted
[09:56] <FantasticFoo> chiefinnovator: you'd have to be screaming pretty loudly for us to "hear" you
[09:56] <Jbirk> you are trying to change an owner
[09:56] <dpupp> brb.
[09:56] <Jbirk> Did it ask for a password?
[09:56] <Frankenstein> can anyone tell me what plugins (gstreamer i assume) to burn mp3 files to a cd so i can play them in a cd player
[09:56] <chiefinnovator> yes, change an owner
[09:56] <Ferramentapenna> Can someone help me install cedega 5.1.3?
[09:56] <chiefinnovator> it asks for password I put it in
[09:56] <chiefinnovator> and it says operation not permitted
[09:56] <Dimitrije> After instaling nvidia graphic drivers i have lost refresh rates for resolutions. For 1024x768 i have only 85Hz and there was 60>87hz. What is wrong and how do i set it back?
[09:56] <Jbirk> You obviously got it wrong
[09:56] <secleinteer> you need your sudo password
[09:56] <chiefinnovator> did that
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> Frankenstein: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:56] <chiefinnovator> it works for any other file
[09:56] <buntu418> how to make amarok be the default palyer instead of rhythmbox
[09:56] <pluma> fyrestr: dig?
[09:56] <Fensta> hey guys.. how do I check kernel version in console?
[09:57] <Locke> that link doesnt help at all, i've done that stuff :(
[09:57] <|thunder> dpupp, look at the bottom of "man apeaker-test"    "speaker-test -Dplug:front -c2" works great for me. i only run stereo even  though i have 5.1
[09:57] <secleinteer> and it's always easier to do sudo nautilus and change it in the gui (unless you really want to do chown)
[09:57] <Jbirk> works for any other file?
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> pluma: dig yahoo.com from a command prompt
[09:57] <chiefinnovator> I also tried it with gksudo nautilisy
[09:57] <chiefinnovator> nautilis
[09:57] <Jbirk> what file are you changing ownership of?
[09:57] <dpupp> Blissex, changed the plugs to their proper colord sockets worked ^_^
[09:57] <secleinteer> it's nautilus not nautilis
[09:57] <riddlebox> are serial port drivers loaded as modules in the default kernel
[09:57] <secleinteer> you have to spell it right for the terminal to open it :P
[09:57] <chiefinnovator> /etc/matplotlibrc
[09:57] <chiefinnovator> lol
[09:57] <Blissex> dpupp: modern technology colors can be baffling :-).
[09:57] <SonicChao> FantasticFoo: Ok, ready
[09:57] <proselyte> how do you change the shutdown screen? mine was changed to the xubuntu one, and i want it changed back...
[09:57] <Jbirk> well then
[09:57] <SonicChao> FantasticFoo: Open a terminal and type this: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[09:57] <blu2> Hi all, installed mplayer via apt-get.mplayer works, but the mozilla plugin is not. is there a separate configuration for the plugin?
[09:57] <chiefinnovator> it's a 0 byte file owned by root
[09:58] <chiefinnovator> with no permissions
[09:58] <Jbirk> $sudo chown
[09:58] <secleinteer> blu2: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[09:58] <FantasticFoo> SonicChao: thanks!
[09:58] <Jbirk> and then the users and groups
[09:58] <Jbirk> have you done man chown
[09:58] <Jbirk> ?
[09:58] <SonicChao> Fanskapet: No, thats not all
[09:58] <nal1oth> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[09:58] <SonicChao> FantasticFoo: No, thats not all
[09:58] <Fanskapet> i see
[09:58] <FantasticFoo> SonicChao: oh. i see
[09:58] <Ferramentapenna> I need help getting Cedega running.  =(
[09:58] <SonicChao> FantasticFoo: Now, to go back to Ubuntu's, type the corrisponding number
[09:59] <Locke> anyone willing to actually help me?  i have already gone through every howto and everythign i coudl find
[09:59] <nalioth> wow, i'm famous!
[09:59] <Locke> there must be something i'm being dense about
[09:59] <FantasticFoo> SonicChao: cool.
[09:59] <blu2> k, it says that mozilla-mplayer is already the newest version
[09:59] <secleinteer> then it should be working
[09:59] <dpupp> uh-oh... totem movie player keeps saying The audio device is busy. (even though there is nothing playing. )
[09:59] <secleinteer> go to firefox
[09:59] <secleinteer> and type: about:plugins
[09:59] <pluma> fyrestrtr: digging yahoo.com on Ubuntu works fine.
[09:59] <SonicChao> FantasticFoo: Type one last command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[09:59] <FantasticFoo> SonicChao: k
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> pluma: dig wikipedia.org
[09:59] <pluma> fyrestrtr: also works
[09:59] <Jbirk> What packages do I need to install for LAMP?
[09:59] <haasteem> lamego: i forgot to ask, how do i put the files that result from the split together again?
[09:59] <Jbirk> on the Live CD?
[10:00] <Jbirk> after installing it?
[10:00] <SonicChao> FantasticFoo: Wait a minute or two.
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> !lamp > Jbirk
[10:00] <FantasticFoo> SonicChao: arright
[10:00] <pluma> fyrestrtr: yet Firefox times out on look up
[10:00] <|thunder> Locke, there is a way to modify xorg.conf make more buttons work. try searching for 'microsoft mouse' in the forums
[10:00] <Locke> |thunder, i have
[10:00] <SonicChao> FantasticFoo: After if gives you back your fantastic@foo:~$ or whatever you have, restart to see if it worked.
[10:00] <Locke> |thunder, i've modified it a dozen times
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> pluma: and you sure you disabled ipv6 in firefox?
[10:00] <|thunder> suxx
[10:00] <nal1oth> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[10:00] <Locke> i need someoen to actually help instead of pointing me to urls i've already been through
[10:01] <|thunder-afk> i dont even have a scroll wheel, soo,...
[10:01] <blu2> hmmm...it is not listed there....
[10:01] <Locke> but seems like a common pastime of people in all these chans to point people to the howtos and be done with it
[10:01] <SonicChao> Can someone tell me whats going on?
[10:01] <SonicChao> Who is DCC SEND all those 0s?
[10:01] <ossie> Gday all
[10:01] <Stirk> Whats the difference between the Regular Desktop and the Alternative CD's?
[10:01] <|thunder-afk> Locke, ya, because someone took the time to make a how-to.  try saying thanks instead of fu
[10:01] <SonicChao> And why are people falling out of the chat?
[10:01] <Ych> !xinerama
[10:01] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[10:01] <bruenig> Locke, throw your mouse away that is a good way to deal with it, no url pointing there
[10:01] <nalioth> SonicChao: don't repeat that in here, please
[10:01] <|thunder-afk> netsplit
[10:01] <cdubya> heh
[10:01] <nalioth> SonicChao: it is an exploit that whacks computers
[10:02] <slappin> so are there irc bots in here doing these dcc send commands or what?
[10:02] <blu2> k, I will uninstall and try re installing since it is not listed in mozilla...
[10:02] <SonicChao> nalioth: Oh, sorry.
[10:02] <nalioth> slappin: no, just idiots
[10:02] <__mikem> what about a netsplit
[10:02] <Stirk> Whats the difference between the Regular Desktop and the Alternative CD's?
[10:02] <secleinteer> blu2: yeah that might help
[10:02] <ChrisC> howdy ... does anyone here know how to get to gpilot settings in Dapper?
[10:02] <Locke> im not saying anybody sucks, im saying it'd be nice if someone would take a look at my error and offer a suggestion
[10:02] <snoops> what's the problem Locke?
[10:02] <dpupp> Locke, what kind of mouse is it?
[10:02] <SonicChao> Stirk: Alternate CDs have no GUI.
[10:02] <Locke> i have a mx700 with 7 buttons
[10:02] <__mikem> I believe the alternate cd's don't have the live capability
[10:02] <Locke> its a logitech wireless USB mouse
[10:03] <Locke> i found a howto that was for my model specifically
[10:03] <brinna> ...
[10:03] <bruenig> Locke, you should email logitech and have them write a driver for linux, that would be a good place to start
[10:03] <nalioth> !tell Locke about patience
[10:03] <cdubya> heh
[10:03] <|thunder-afk> Locke, all the stuff the wheel does counts as buttons as well
[10:03] <blu2> thanks for the hints, secleinteer.....
[10:03] <Locke> had me put "driver" "mouse"
[10:03] <haasteem> lamego: do i just do "join file1 file2 ..."?
[10:03] <ossie> i have just got a new machine and would liek to install xgl , i have tried and had to reconfigure a few times, i am using 6.0.6 on a amd64 bit not 64 bit version of dapper though, I have on board geforce 6100 graphics, cant seem to install nvidia driver, my kernel is 2.6.15-26-k7
[10:03] <secleinteer> np
[10:03] <Locke> "buttons" "7"
[10:03] <brinna> ????????
[10:03] <dpupp> im using a wireless mouse here with scroll wheel.... nothing special was needed in dapper. worked out of the box. It was cheap 12.00 mouse at wallmart...
[10:03] <snoops> Stirk desktop edition is a live cd..you can test out the system without installing.. then if you want to install, well it's very simple - just double click on the install icon ont he desktop. The alternative is a text based install..
[10:03] <Locke> then when i do xmodmap -e it says i shouyld have 11 instead of 7
[10:03] <dpupp> 7 buttons as well.
[10:03] <brinna> u talk fast
[10:03] <Locke> i can understand 9 or 10, i wonder where the 11 is though
[10:03] <nal1oth> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[10:03] <dpupp> err ..6
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> !ops
[10:03] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[10:04] <nalioth> fyrestrtr: we are here and see this happening
[10:04] <willys_fueguino> Question: Canuse the ubuntu logo on a web page without having legal troubles???
[10:04] <pluma> fyrestr: does Firefox have a setting for that? Also, I'm pretty sure look up timed out via Network Tools as well, although I followed the steps in the wiki.
[10:04] <brinna> u guys svck
[10:04] <snoops> Locke trying to get all buttons on your mouse working?
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> pluma: yes
[10:04] <pepsi> does anyone have a suggestion for an accounting program? im about to install gnucash, but anything else?
[10:04] <cdubya> nalioth, they like you, huh?
[10:04] <|thunder-afk> dpupp, 12 buttons = 7 buttons, and the mouse wheel goes up, down, left, right, and click. which all count as buttons. 7+5=12
[10:04] <brinna> SHUT UP
[10:04] <Locke> snoops, yes
[10:04] <Stirk> Thanks SonicChao
[10:04] <nalioth> cdubya: we are all famous in our own ways
[10:04] <SonicChao> brinna: Please stop.
[10:04] <cdubya> heh
[10:04] <SonicChao> Stirk: No problem.
[10:04] <yossman> nal1oth> DCC SEND  <-- lame.
[10:04] <snoops> Locke k, which mouse? I've got a mx1000.. had to set it up for all buttons
[10:04] <ossie> i have just got a new machine and would liek to install xgl , i have tried and had to reconfigure a few times, i am using 6.0.6 on a amd64 bit not 64 bit version of dapper though, I have on board geforce 6100 graphics, cant seem to install nvidia driver, my kernel is 2.6.15-26-k7 , is there anyone that can advise on installing nvidia driver , at the moment i am having problems with CC compiler i have tried this export CC=/usr/bin/gcc
[10:04] <HorD> willys_fueguino:  metele!
[10:05] <dpupp> ah. interesting left and right. hmm.
[10:05] <willys_fueguino> Question: Canuse the ubuntu logo on a web page without having legal troubles???
[10:05] <Locke> snoops, MX700
[10:05] <dpupp> locke, the most i can do is send you my xorg.conf for review if you wish.
[10:05] <willys_fueguino> me Asks: Canuse the ubuntu logo on a web page without having legal troubles???
[10:05] <SonicChao> willys_fueguino: Yes.
[10:05] <snoops> Locke k, are you using the evdev driver?
[10:05] <brinna> *blink*
[10:05] <nal1oth> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[10:05] <Ferramentapenna> Can someone help me with cedega?
[10:05] <SonicChao> FantasticFoo: Did it work?
[10:06] <FantasticFoo> SonicChao: nope. :(
[10:06] <willys_fueguino> SonicChao: Then why every page that is referred to ubunyu use it??
[10:06] <SonicChao> FantasticFoo: Did the ubuntu logo at shut-down change?
[10:06] <bruenig> willys_fueguino, i think that the logo is actually owned by canonical or whatever it is called. I think they allow usage pretty liberally though if you email them. They let ubuntu christian edition use it so I don't know why they wouldn't let you use it on your webpage
[10:06] <FantasticFoo> SonicChao: nope
[10:06] <SonicChao> FantasticFoo: Ouch. Sorry, that's what worked for me...I really don't know what else to try. =(
[10:06] <FantasticFoo> oh well. guess i'll live with it
[10:06] <willys_fueguino> thanx bruenig... that's very helpful...
[10:07] <Locke> i tried using evdev but x woudlnt startw ith it
[10:07] <FantasticFoo> SonicChao: thanks though, for trying to help!
[10:07] <dpupp> locke, want to check my xorg.conf for clues? ... ?
[10:07] <SonicChao> FantasticFoo: No problem.
[10:07] <ChrisC> does anyone here know how to get to gpilot settings in Dapper?
[10:07] <hlabs> ok how can i do a quota management on my harddrive
[10:07] <bruenig> !info gpilot
[10:07] <snoops> Locke okay, well you will need to use the evdev driver.. I guess that's because it was pointing to the wrong place to find your mouse
[10:07] <ubotu> Package gpilot does not exist in dapper
[10:07] <bruenig> what is gpilot
[10:07] <ossie> i have just got a new machine and would liek to install xgl , i have tried and had to reconfigure a few times, i am using 6.0.6 on a amd64 bit not 64 bit version of dapper though, I have on board geforce 6100 graphics, cant seem to install nvidia driver, my kernel is 2.6.15-26-k7 , is there anyone that can advise on installing nvidia driver , at the moment i am having problems with CC compiler i have tried this export CC=/usr/bin/gcc, when
[10:07] <ossie>  i use the nvida driver that i have got via apt-get my system just hangs when it starts to load gdm
[10:07] <pluma> fyrestr: Ah, forgot to set it in about:config
[10:07] <Locke> i followed a howto that said to use evdev
[10:07] <bruenig> !tell ossie about repeat
[10:07] <ChrisC> !info gnome-pilot
[10:07] <ubotu> gnome-pilot: A GNOME applet for management of your Palm PDA. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.13-0ubuntu16 (dapper), package size 204 kB, installed size 2180 kB
[10:08] <ossie> sorry about the repaeting
[10:08] <bruenig> ah
[10:08] <Locke> dpupp, yeah sure
[10:08] <brinna> T.T
[10:08] <perry_> anybody able to help me get an HP OfficeJet all-in-one up and running?
[10:08] <FantasticFoo> i had another small issue - i can't get .wmv crap to play
[10:08] <Locke> i had it as even9
[10:08] <Tamale> is there any way to interface with windows mobile 2003 on my dell axim  x50 from ubuntu?
[10:08] <joejaxx> !restricted
[10:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:08] <ZaQ> hello
[10:08] <_azrael> !easyubuntu > FantasticFoo
[10:08] <perry_> i've got hplip installed but the jobs are constant;y stopping
[10:08] <hlabs> is there any way to lock the harddrive down. And prevent a user from storing any info on the local hard drive
[10:08] <bruenig> perry_, usually HP is pretty easy to get going. Have you tried system>administration>printing and going through that stuff
[10:08] <FantasticFoo> i've installed all of the "correct" drivers according to that tutorial, ubotu..
[10:09] <Jbirk>  !easyubuntu>Jbirk
[10:09] <snoops> Locke okay, well let me quickly go check the guide I used to setup my mx1000..it has the same number of buttons as yours, doesn't it?
[10:09] <Jbirk> !restricted >jbirk
[10:09] <Tamale> perry_: Normal users only have write access to their home folders, so if you take of the write permissions there you'd pretty much be doing that
[10:09] <perry_> bruenig: yeah, when I get to step 2 of 2, there's nothing in the dropdown list, and when I install the ppd file, it says its already installed and doesnt give me anywhere to go but 'cancel' :P
[10:09] <nalioth> cdubya: looks like a meeting of my fan club, don't it? lol
[10:09] <cdubya> heh
[10:09] <cdubya> yep
[10:09] <perry_> Tamale: huh?
[10:09] <sh4dox> help pls :'(
[10:10] <dpupp> Locke, did the file send?
[10:10] <ZaQ> I have a problem can anyone help?
[10:10] <bruenig> perry_, have you tried using a driver for another hp printer, most of them use the same one I believe hplips or something like that
[10:10] <cdubya> !anyone > ZaQ
[10:10] <ZaQ> I have downloaded java from the web and tried to install it
[10:10] <ZaQ> typed "su"
[10:10] <sh4dox> i formatted my second partitions to fat32 now ubuntu don't want to recognize it :s
[10:10] <Tamale> perry_: lol sorry. scroll issues :p
[10:10] <ZaQ> them entered my password
[10:10] <bruenig> ZaQ, use the repos don't download it
[10:10] <hlabs> hi. Can someone help. I need to setup local disk restrictions
[10:10] <ZaQ> then
[10:10] <nalioth> ZaQ: we don't use 'su' here
[10:10] <ZaQ> but my password wasnt acepted
[10:10] <nalioth> !tell ZaQ about sudo
[10:10] <perry_> bruenig: i've got hplip installed :P
[10:10] <bruenig> !info sun-java5-bin
[10:10] <ubotu> sun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 21625 kB, installed size 65608 kB
[10:11] <sh4dox> how can i solve this problem i thought ubuntu could write to fat32 :s
[10:11] <cdubya> sh4dox, do you have them mounted?
[10:11] <sh4dox> yes
[10:11] <pluma> fyrestr: I enable the setting (disable IPv6 in Firefox) and restarted Firefox, but it's still timing out on look up. That normal?
[10:11] <perry_> sh4dox: did you write to /etc/fstab and mount it?
[10:11] <erUSUL> sh4dox: it can indeed
[10:11] <ZaQ> so how do I install it?
[10:11] <bruenig> sh4dox, are you sure it is mounted?
[10:11] <cdubya> !fstab > sh4dox
[10:11] <sh4dox> perry_: i did as the wiki said "automaticly mount ms partions"
[10:12] <perry_> ZaQ: instead of su, try "sudo" along with YOUR password
[10:12] <nalioth> ZaQ: read your private messages, please
[10:12] <nalioth> !tell perry_ about sudo
[10:12] <nalioth> !tell ZaQ about java
[10:12] <haasteem> how do i put the files that result from a split together again?
[10:12] <nalioth> ZaQ: java is in the repos
[10:12] <bruenig> sh4dox, if you don't mind, if you would post your /etc/fstab, it would be much easier to help
[10:12] <bruenig> !paste
[10:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:12] <perry_> nalioth: why are you telling me about sudo?
[10:12] <nalioth> ZaQ: no need to download anything
[10:12] <sh4dox> bruenig: ok
[10:12] <erUSUL> ZaQ: if you want the jre it is in the repos. just install it from there. if you want to install the jsdk 'sudo chmod +x *.bin && sudo ./*.bin' and follow instrucutions
[10:12] <Locke> whoops sorry i was on another desktop
[10:13] <tibbe> is there any possibility to get microsoft windows media 9 playing?
[10:13] <joejaxx> !restricted > tibbe
[10:13] <snoops> Locke okay
[10:13] <snoops> this is the guide I followed, and found it to be perfect
[10:13] <dpupp> booo! file could not send. ah well.
[10:13] <albacker> !restrictedformat
[10:13] <tibbe> joejaxx, ?
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restrictedformat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <snoops> we can go through it step by step if you want
[10:13] <dpupp> Locke, i'll put it in a pastebin. brb.
[10:13] <jm^> !restricted > jme
[10:13] <sh4dox> bruenig:  "acces denied" :s
[10:13] <albacker> !restrictedformats
[10:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:13] <snoops> Locke http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471
[10:13] <bruenig> tibbe, I bet you could do it with wine, you probably will have to get one of those stripped down versions form a bittorrent site that has all the WGA stuff cracked
[10:14] <ossie> can anyone help install the nvidia driver for a inbuilt geforece 6100 graphics card please :)
[10:14] <albacker> !restricted
[10:14] <snoops> ossie isn't it just 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx' ?
[10:14] <joejaxx> !nvidia
[10:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:15] <ajopaul> !boot > ajopaul
[10:15] <nbdyspcl> how can i search out a package with a specific file in it? i am working with java/kdebindings and retrieved libqt3-java and libkde3-java, which supplied required qtjava.jar/koala.jar files.. unfortunately required share libraries of these files are missing. need to search them out if they exist
[10:15] <Fensta> this might sound extremely silly.. but is there any way to get activex controls in firefox?
[10:15] <ossie> i have done that snoops but it is using a generic driver, and when i have run the nvidai-xconf my box wont reboot without reverting to the old xorg.conf
[10:16] <joejaxx> fensta there is an IE PLugin for firefox but that whould not work on linux
[10:16] <snoops> ossie okay, well you can edit your xorg.conf manually
[10:16] <ossie> snoops i thought i had already installed that but when i just did a aptget in seems ok
[10:16] <ossie> its downloading now i will try that out
[10:16] <snoops> joejaxx hehe, well you know I've had some success with active x plugins with IE on wine
[10:16] <ossie> cheers snoops
[10:16] <Fensta> :\
[10:17] <joejaxx> snoops: i have no idea why you whould want ie on linux but hey lol
[10:17] <dpupp> Locke, see this link for an example of my xorg.  dont know if it will help but. chekc it out. http://pastebin.ca/139279 (also shows a tri-monitor configuration)
[10:17] <Fensta> so no way to view active x stuff in linux?
[10:17] <Locke> dpupp, thanks
[10:17] <ossie> snoops how do i make that driver come into affect?
[10:17] <ChrisC> does anyone here know how to get to gnome-pilot settings in Dapper?
[10:17] <robert_> blah- (k)ubuntu won't progress past starting the kernel event manager
[10:17] <joejaxx> fensta not an easy way as snoops has put it
[10:17] <snoops> ossie basically in your xorg.conf change nv to nvidia
[10:17] <minerale> Does anyone knoe of any swf decoders? I'm trying to extract the .flv video file from the embdded swf: http://tomboy.dk/swfs/ok2bgayBig.swf
[10:17] <sh4dox> this is the output of my fstab  ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21127
[10:18] <joejaxx> ChrisC: cd ~/.gpilot?
[10:18] <Fensta> snoops, .. thats a good idea.. can you run a standalone ie in wine?
[10:18] <ossie> Section "Device"
[10:18] <ossie> 	Identifier	"Generic Video Card"
[10:18] <ossie> 	Driver		"vesa"
[10:18] <ossie> 	BusID		"PCI:0:5:0"
[10:18] <ossie> EndSection
[10:18] <snoops> Fensta well there's ies4linux which will nicely install ie5,5.5 and 6 for wine, and put icons in your desktop etc
[10:18] <ossie> i got that at the mo snoops
[10:18] <snoops> Fensta yeah I have to use it, as I'm a web developer
[10:18] <ossie> should i change vesa to nvidia?
[10:18] <snoops> k, changing vesa to nvidia yeah
[10:18] <Fensta> thx
[10:18] <Fensta> I shall give it a shot
[10:18] <nalioth> ossie: please use a pastebin
[10:18] <snoops> Fensta I'll grab the link if you want..
[10:18] <ossie> ok sorry nalioth
[10:19] <Locke> dpupp, holy crap dude, i bet that computer is slicker than a greased whale!
[10:19] <ChrisC> joejaxx: thanks, that got me on the trail, it's .gpilotd
[10:19] <Fensta> please ;-)
[10:19] <Locke> i wish i could afford half that
[10:19] <ChrisC> still wondering how to run the GUI settings editor
[10:19] <snoops> Fensta http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/index-en.html you'll need wine first.. :) sudo apt-get install wine
[10:19] <ossie> nalioth, how do i restart the X server?
[10:19] <sh4dox> do i have to format my ubuntu just for adding a new partition?
[10:19] <joejaxx> ChrisC: you are most welcome
[10:19] <Fensta> I have wine snoops .. thx
[10:19] <sh4dox> ossie:  ctrl + alt + backspace ;)
[10:20] <pmgordon> exit
[10:20] <Locke> im running a duron 1Ghz with 512 PC100, a 64MB GF2 MX 400, and about 30 gigs of hd
[10:20] <ossie> ok here goes
[10:20] <snoops> Fensta it doesn't work perfectly of course.. but it's as good as you'll get before you end up using vmware
[10:20] <dr_willis> sh4dox,  you can mount a new partition anywere.. or ya could merge it withg the existing partitions
[10:20] <Fensta> heh.. ya I hear ya
[10:20] <ddna> is there wine for amd64
[10:20] <Fensta> I just need something that will display an active x control
[10:20] <nalioth> sh4dox: /etc/init.d/gdm restart is more graceful
[10:20] <sh4dox> dr_willis: i changed an existing partition from ntfs to fat32 now ubuntu won't recognize it nolonger :s what am i supposed to do
[10:21] <nalioth> sh4dox: edit your fstab
[10:21] <snoops> Fensta want me to test to see if it works now? url?
[10:21] <haasteem> how do i put the files that result from a split together again?
[10:21] <blocky> does anyone know if aiglx or xgl is better for a radeon 9500?
[10:21] <robert_> help?
[10:21] <dpupp> Locke, wanna see it? http://ookami.animetc.com/albums/userpics/10003/2005-12-18_ookami_workstation.jpg (in windows) but its now running linux.
[10:21] <dr_willis> sh4dox,  edit the fstab and change ntfs to vfat i guess is a start
[10:21] <sh4dox> nalioth: what do I have to change exactly?
[10:21] <Fensta> no snoops .. thats ok.. I appreciate it though
[10:21] <sh4dox> dr_willis: nalioth: these is my output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21127
[10:21] <ZaQ> still have no damned idea what im doing
[10:22] <ZaQ> this is the first couple minutes that I installed linux btw
[10:22] <snoops> dpupp was it a struggle to get 3 displays going?
[10:22] <buntu418> how to change amarok as default palyer
[10:22] <sh4dox> dr_willis: ok, i changed hda 5 => ntfs to vfat ... that should do the trick?
[10:22] <dpupp> Snoops, yes it was. but it was not as complex as i had thought.
[10:23] <ZaQ> so java(what plays pogo games online) is already installed in Ubuntu? all I have to do is tell it to run?
[10:23] <dr_willis> sh4dox,  change the 'ntfs' to vfat - like i said. :P   /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0        you may also want to use a different umask , 007 is a little unusual.
[10:23] <damned> ZaQ: please try not to use word "damned".
[10:23] <robert_> nalioth: any ideas/
[10:23] <ddna> i am trying to install wine in ubuntu 64
[10:23] <nalioth> sh4dox: for the partition in question, change ntfs to vfat
[10:23] <ddna> how do i do this
[10:23] <dpupp> do what?
[10:23] <ddna> install wine in amd 64 ubuntu
[10:23] <Aar0n> Hi there, sorry for a really noob question but how do I get into the GUI when I boot up?
[10:23] <dr_willis> sh4dox,  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume  - has a lot of good info on use of ntfs/vfat - and examples.
[10:23] <nalioth> robert_: i'm not much good with kernels
[10:23] <Aar0n> What command would I run to get into a 1024*768*32 gui please
[10:24] <lamego_> Aar0n, what CD have you used for the instalation ?
[10:24] <Aar0n> The 700mb one
[10:24] <snoops> ddna I used to be on 64bit (take that as your first warning :P).. there's no 64bit version of wine, so your options are either making a 32bit chrooted version, and installing in that
[10:24] <r000t> someone here know how to get the sidebuttons to work with an intellimouse
[10:24] <sh4dox> nalioth: ok, i did ... and after a reboot (if it is required) I just have to the "automaticly mount partitions" part of the wiki?
[10:24] <snoops> or by using this linux32 stuff
[10:24] <lamego_> Aar0n, on the terminal, type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:24] <robert_> nalioth: it's not the kernel, per-se- it's the boot process
[10:24] <SonicChao> ddna: There is no AMD64 Wine.
[10:24] <dpupp> Aar0n, assuming you have gnome installed: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:24] <dr_willis> r000t,  dependong on the exact mouse. ive seen several howtos/docs on google, and the ubuntu wiki/forums and the Gentoo forums are very good.
[10:24] <ddna> thanks snoops
[10:24] <Locke> snoops, this is a much better howto, thank you
[10:24] <SonicChao> ddna: However, you can use the i386 edition of Ubuntu on AMD64 machines. :)
[10:24] <snoops> both methods are pretty well covered in ubuntuforums.org if you search for wine and amd64
[10:24] <nalioth> sh4dox: if it worked before with ntfs, it should work without any more fiddling
[10:25] <teicah> google: ubuntu change display <---first link has the answer
[10:25] <r000t> dr_willis: seems ive tried them all and not a single one works..
[10:25] <Aar0n> thanks a lot
[10:25] <dr_willis> r000t,  its possible you are doing somthing wrong. :P
[10:25] <ddna> thanks guys... i will be installing x86 soon
[10:25] <r000t> dr_willis: not a thing that i like fiddling with
[10:25] <ddna> :)
[10:25] <dr_willis> r000t,  theres no magic answer.
[10:25] <snoops> Locke cool.. yeah it was a real struggle to find the right howto originally. They just assumed a lot of stuff about what the device was called etc.. this gets you to find it and such.. :)
[10:25] <frying_fish> SonicChao: there will soon be AMD64 wine
[10:26] <SonicChao> frying_fish: But until then, you should use i386 with Wine.
[10:26] <frying_fish> if what I was reading on winehq is correct.
[10:26] <sh4dox> nalioth: when it was still ntfs it worked perfectly (only reading ofc) but i wanted to write to the partition so i decided to format it into fat32 (should work .. or?)
[10:26] <gerhard> hi, I have an .ape file and a .cue file. how do I burn em now with k3b?
[10:26] <r000t> dr_willis: could be .. could be.. but all the howtos differ as well wich seems a bit weird.. i had a working xorg before but i lost it
[10:26] <frying_fish> SonicChao: suppose, or a chroot surely would handle it
[10:26] <snoops> frying_fish really? last I heard the wine guys were absolutely against the idea since it's such a ridiculous struggle to get windows stuff working in 32bit environments, let alone 64
[10:26] <nalioth> sh4dox: let me look a sec
[10:26] <dr_willis> r000t,   i keep archives of all my xorgs. :P
[10:27] <gerhard> hi, I have an .ape file and a .cue file. how do I burn em now with k3b?
[10:27] <sh4dox> nalioth: ok
[10:27] <dr_willis> r000t,  the gentoo forums/guides are the most detiled ive seen in this area.. but ya got to know wht you are doing :P
[10:27] <frying_fish> oh, maybe I misread, it might be win64 and I read it as wine64
[10:27] <snoops> I hope I'm wrong frying_fish
[10:27] <r000t> dr_willis: me too due to the crappy time i spend creating working xorg.confs.. but i lost them
[10:27] <nalioth> sh4dox: yup, you should be good to go
[10:27] <sh4dox> nalioth: ok, i'm off for reboot, brb
[10:28] <gerhard> does no one know that?
[10:28] <harisund> sh4dox: you doin't need to reboot
[10:28] <sh4dox> harisund: don't?
[10:28] <Locke> k
[10:28] <harisund> sh4dox: you are just going to need to access your Fat32 partition right?
[10:28] <Locke> bout to restart x and find out
[10:28] <snoops> fingers crossed Locke :)
[10:29] <Locke> :)
[10:29] <Locke> ctrl+alt+bksp!
[10:29] <dpupp> has anyone here tried setting up a touch screen in linux? im working on setting up my car with a computer, and im curious to know if its possible to get a touch screen working... so far it works with windows. http://ookami.animetc.com/thumbnails.php?album=4&page=2
[10:29] <frying_fish> well on winehq there is a hack to build wine on 64 bit
[10:30] <sh4dox> harisund: yes
[10:30] <haasteem> how do i put the files that result from a split using the "split" command together again?
[10:30] <gerhard> brrrrrrrrrrrrrr. I have an .ape file and a .cue file. how do I burn em now with k3b?
[10:30] <harisund> sh4dox: typically you can just execute 'sudo mount -a' and the fstab partitions mentioned in fstab will be automounted.
[10:30] <sh4dox> nalioth: i did the "automaticly mount partitions" like it is said in the wiki ... still i can't acces my partition
[10:30] <nalioth> haasteem: man cat
[10:31] <nalioth> sh4dox: join me in #ubuntu-classroom please
[10:31] <haasteem> nalioth: does cat also work for files of 1gb?
[10:31] <ossie> hi im back, it didnt work snoops
[10:31] <harisund> nalioth what channel is that?
[10:31] <ossie> had to reboot
[10:31] <ossie> can someone tell me how to set my defualt dm to gdm rather than kdm
[10:32] <nalioth> haasteem: it should work for any files
[10:32] <snoops> ossie oh really? did x just die?
[10:32] <nalioth> harisund: it's #ubuntu-classroom
[10:32] <ossie> no it hung at the kubuntu screen
[10:32] <haasteem> nalioth: alright
[10:32] <ossie> but when i tried to correct my xorg.conf and restart gms it said gdm isnt defualt dm
[10:32] <eduard> hello is there anyway i can hack into my system ? can't remember my users password
[10:32] <ossie> and i dont know how to start kdm properly
[10:33] <dr_willis> eduard,  boot to single users mode.
[10:33] <snoops> ossie.. the integrated nvidia card is the only graphics card in the machine right?
[10:33] <ossie> eduard, u can boot fialsafe
[10:33] <ossie> yes snoops
[10:33] <eduard> ok i will try it now
[10:33] <ossie> eduard, as long as no root pass is set
[10:33] <ossie> then boot failsafe and create a new user adduser
[10:34] <eduard> no root password is set
[10:34] <eduard> but how do i change into single user mode
[10:34] <ossie> your cool then u might have to add a user to the sudoers group
[10:34] <ossie> so u can runt sudo as that user and stuff
[10:34] <snoops> ossie if you do "lspci | grep -i nvidia" do you get any results?
[10:35] <dr_> Does anyone know how to fix libvte problems?
[10:35] <sh4dox> harisund: it didd'nt work got this output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21130
[10:35] <ossie> yes snoop
[10:35] <eduard> how do i boot into single user mode ?
[10:35] <ossie> yes snoops
[10:35] <dr_willis> dr_ remove and reinstall the libvte-common package
[10:35] <ossie> snoops, it seems that lotsa of my mobo compnents are nvidia though
[10:35] <harisund> sh4dox: just a second.
[10:35] <dr_> ok thanks
[10:36] <harisund> sh4dox: not sure I understsand that, but it appears it is not recognizing the fat partition. Try rebooting if you want, and please let me know if you were successful then.
[10:36] <snoops> ossie k, one of the lines that code returns should mention vga then
[10:36] <ossie> snoops on this is the 0000:00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a2)
[10:36] <ossie>  i get that also snoops , not sure if thast is my graphics card
[10:36] <ossie> yes that snoops
[10:36] <eduard> ossie how do i boot into single usermode ?
[10:37] <sh4dox> harisund: ok i will
[10:37] <lamego_> eduard, boot with the recovery option
[10:37] <alexcamilo> Anyone know where i could get a list of the winmodems that are known to work with linux?
[10:37] <ossie> eduard, press esc whern your booting and select yoru kernel in failsafe
[10:37] <snoops> okay just a min ossie
[10:37] <ossie> cheers snoops
[10:37] <torpedo|dog> alexcamilo: http://linmodem.org/ I think.
[10:37] <eduard> ok thanks booting now
[10:38] <lamego_> alexcamilo, google.com linux windmodems , 1st link
[10:38] <Ricesteam> Anyone gotten Avview to work?
[10:38] <torpedo|dog> alexcamilo: don't use my link, it's a parker
[10:38] <ddna> do you guys know if there is any front end for pptp configuration for AMD64?
[10:38] <snoops> ossie in terminal if you do "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" do you get any output?
[10:39] <ossie> no snoops
[10:39] <ossie> i get no output ,sno
[10:39] <ossie> i get no output , snoops
[10:39] <snoops> hopefully that means it's worked
[10:40] <ossie> ok if i stry to restart X and it dont work how do i load kdm back up? snoops
[10:40] <whiter> ossie
[10:40] <haasteem> nalioth: one last question, do you think it is safe to use cat for joining a vmware VM file back together after i split it?
[10:40] <mistraal> how would I go about mounting my integrated sd card reader?
[10:40] <ossie> yes Whitelighter
[10:40] <whiter> become root and type "kdm"
[10:40] <ossie> yes Whiter
[10:40] <nalioth> haasteem: with proper usage, split and cat work well
[10:41] <alexcamilo> thanx
[10:41] <snoops> if no go, in terminal you'd type to get back to a working xorg.. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:41] <ossie> cheers whiter i was trying /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[10:41] <ossie> here goes
[10:41] <qwerty2k> snoops, wouldnt it bet better for him to backup his current xorg.con then just cp it back if new one messes up?
[10:42] <qwerty2k> *conf
[10:42] <snoops> yeah, but he ran sudo nvidia-glx-config enable before he backed up..
[10:42] <qwerty2k> ah ok, sorry, i shouldn't have really commented as i didn;t see thw hole conversation
[10:43] <qwerty2k> *didn't see the whole conversation (damn i suck at typing)
[10:43] <ossie> yes guys it worked, thanx ,  snoops , whiter
[10:43] <snoops> your brain goes faster than your fingers :)
[10:43] <whiter> welcome
[10:43] <qwerty2k> hehe :)
[10:43] <ossie> now i can try to get xgl and compiz working
[10:43] <snoops> cool beans ossie
[10:44] <snoops> ossie for that, may I suggest http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager/Xgl then http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz
[10:44] <ossie> still says vesa in my xorg.conf :(
[10:44] <whiter> whats the xgl channel again
[10:45] <whiter> ossie what kinda video card you got
[10:45] <krazykit> whiter: ubuntu-xgl
[10:45] <ossie> geforce 6100 on board
[10:45] <whiter> ossie
[10:45] <sharperguy> its aussie
[10:45] <ossie> whast that ubuntu-xgl
[10:45] <ossie> ???
[10:45] <whiter> hold on ossie...
[10:45] <ossie> ok cheers :)
[10:46] <sharperguy> #ubuntu-xgl
[10:46] <eduard> can i get some help in installing/setting up an ssh demon ?
[10:47] <ossie> eduard, try sudo apt-get install ssh
[10:47] <whiter> sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx
[10:47] <whiter> ^ @ ossie
[10:47] <whiter> then edit xorg.conf and change the driver from vesa to nv
[10:47] <qwerty2k> nvidia NOT nv
[10:47] <whiter> erm yea nvidia
[10:47] <whiter> my fault
[10:47] <qwerty2k> nv = opensource driver?
[10:48] <eduard> checking , i have ssh installed so how do i start the daemon ?
[10:48] <whiter> yea, my mistake
[10:48] <qwerty2k> :)
[10:48] <ossie> its will auto start eduard , try ssh localhost
[10:48] <IceOwl> nv will not help you at all.. it'll make you go "wtf???!???! why isn't it working??" and then throw your computer out the window in frustration
[10:48] <mark__> hi, i have just installed ubuntu for the first time, and my usb flash device is not showing up in dmesg.. do i need to install drivers for it?
[10:48] <ossie> whiter them packages are isntalled
[10:48] <eduard> connection refused
[10:48] <foxjwill> hi, i'm having trouble with info. "info: Terminal type `xterm' is not smart enough to run Info."
[10:48] <whiter> ossie change "nv" to "nvidia" in xorg.conf and restart x
[10:48] <whiter> should work
[10:49] <whiter> or "vesa" whatever it is right now
[10:49] <jman8888> How do i delete something in The terminal (RM dont work its a folder)
[10:49] <ChrisC> is anybody here using J-Pilot with their Palm device?
[10:49] <ossie> ok will try Whiter
[10:49] <qwerty2k> rm should work
[10:49] <yossman> hmm why would i need EVMS to be loaded at startup
[10:49] <qwerty2k> rm -R /home/user/folder
[10:49] <yossman> what functionality does it give me over LVM
[10:50] <qwerty2k> -R makes it recursive, it deletes all files and the folder
[10:50] <yossman> isn't it rm -r ?
[10:50] <yossman> lowercase?
[10:50] <ossie> it doesnt contian nv in my xorg.conf whiter
[10:50] <whiter> it says "vesa"
[10:50] <minerale> can you delete *any* folder without specifying the -r option ?
[10:51] <lamego_> minerale, no if it contains files
[10:51] <ossie> yes whiter
[10:51] <mainer> unless you do it from a file-manager
[10:51] <yossman> and in any case you use 'rmdir' to remove empty directories
[10:51] <yossman> as far as i know
[10:51] <whiter> okay ossie change "vesa" to "nv"
[10:51] <ossie> ok whiter
[10:51] <whiter> in the Section "Device" section
[10:51] <whiter> Driver "nvidia" instead of Driver "vesa"
[10:52] <ossie> gonna try restarting X
[10:54] <ossie> hi whiter im back, and it seems to have worked apart from my resolution is a ugly 640x480 and i dont have the option to change it
[10:54] <whiter> :)
[10:54] <whiter> um
[10:54] <ossie> : ) cheers
[10:54] <whiter> open a terminal and type dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:54] <qwerty2k> no
[10:54] <qwerty2k> dont
[10:54] <ossie> cool whiter
[10:55] <ossie> lemme try
[10:55] <snoops> don't
[10:55] <whiter> go through the options till you get to the screen resolution poart
[10:55] <whiter> dont change anything tho
[10:55] <pluma> Okay. I've set the about:config setting accordingly, IPv6 is disabled for Ubuntu as per the wiki article and all is great (dig works fine, Network Tools lookup works fine, etc), but I still get a looking up timeout on Wikipedia.org in Firefox on this box when it works fine on all the Windows boxen in the same network.
[10:55] <qwerty2k> simpler to edit xorg.conf in gedit tbh
[10:55] <snoops> don't type that.. it'll remove the nvidia stuff
[10:55] <whiter> no it wont
[10:55] <ossie> shall i just vim xorg.conf whiter?
[10:55] <lamego_> it will just ask for the options again, it will keep the current config as default
[10:55] <ossie> ok ill run dpkg
[10:56] <whiter> ossie, you could...
[10:56] <qwerty2k> ossie, if i were you i would nano or wim xorg.conf and add the display modes to your screen section
[10:56] <whiter> either way will work
[10:56] <qwerty2k> *vin
[10:56] <qwerty2k> bim
[10:56] <qwerty2k> vim
[10:56] <qwerty2k> damnit
[10:56] <ossie> shall i leave everythign apart from, resolution ?
[10:57] <qwerty2k> yeah
[10:57] <foo> Is there a script I could run to create my ssl certificate?
[10:57] <ChrisC> is anybody here using J-Pilot with their Palm device?
[10:57] <minerale> lamego_: dude you can't remove a folder at all if you do not specify -r
[10:58] <minerale> lamego_: try mkdir empty; rm empty
[10:58] <lamego_> minerale, you can, with rmdir, if its empty
[10:58] <lamego_> minerale, you can rmdir it
[10:58] <minerale> oh
[10:58] <lamego_> i mean you dont need "rm -r"
[10:58] <qwerty2k> if its empty then yes
[10:59] <lamego_> anyway there is no much use for rmdir :P
[10:59] <dr_willis_> man rmdir
[10:59] <dr_willis_> man rm
[10:59] <dr_willis_> :)
[10:59] <Mikeport> Hello anyone know how to change the Resolution for an nvidia 6600 pci express, with dual monitor support for 1440 resolution on both monitor and refresh 60 ?
[11:00] <Carmen-> i fucking hate ubuntu
[11:00] <Carmen-> i made backup.tar
[11:00] <Carmen-> and now its corruptes
[11:00] <Carmen-> everything is gone
[11:00] <lamego_> Carmen-, try to learn to use it before complaining
[11:00] <dr_willis_> and this is ubuntus fault ? Hmm
[11:01] <lamego_> Carmen-, ubuntu is not user's errors prune
[11:01] <Mikeport> Hello anyone know how to change the Resolution for an nvidia 6600 pci express, with dual monitor support for 1440 resolution on both monitor and refresh 60 ?
[11:01] <lamego_> Carmen-, next time try to not delete your data unless you have checked it was properly backed up
[11:01] <Carmen-> well how do you fucking check that
[11:01] <lamego_> Carmen-, language !
[11:01] <Carmen-> fucking idiots
[11:02] <lamego_> Carmen-, keep like that and you will cry a lot
[11:02] <regal> hey guys
[11:02] <regal> i need help
[11:02] <lamego_> Carmen-, from the language, you got what you deserve :)
[11:02] <void^> Carmen-: if you don't know how to verify a backup, you probably shouldn't play with important data :] 
[11:02] <mcphail> do not feed the trolls
[11:02] <Gregyboy> can someone help me with something?
[11:02] <lamego_> Gregyboy, it would help us to know what you need help about...
[11:02] <lamego_> !! anyone
[11:02] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:03] <Kyja> I could use a sugestion/help if someone knows this trouble http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21135
[11:03] <jman8888> How can i delete in terminal...
[11:03] <dr_willis_> rm filetodelete
[11:03] <lamego_> jman8888, rm file
[11:03] <dr_willis_> google for bash tutorial
[11:03] <lamego_> pleace be carefull, there is no trash there
[11:03] <lamego_> please
[11:03] <Gregyboy> well i want to intall ubuntu and make my machine dual boot but i want to make windows the defaul OS it boots into how do i do this?
[11:03] <jman8888> lamego_, I tried but its a folder. What can i do for that..
[11:04] <dr_willis_> Gregyboy,  edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst theres an entry there that sets what one to boot to by default.  change 1 line.
[11:04] <oblib> jman8888: rm -R directory
[11:04] <qwerty2k> Gregyboy, you will need to edit the grub menu list
[11:04] <lamego_> jman8888, rm -rf folder
[11:04] <cokeslut> hello
[11:04] <lamego_> jman8888, but please have in mind that it is dangerous
[11:04] <oblib> jman8888: rm -Rf if you don't want any confirmations
[11:04] <Gregyboy> how do i get to that file im in windows
[11:04] <Gregyboy> ?
[11:04] <cokeslut> ?
[11:04] <qwerty2k> Gregyboy, you cant to my knowledge
[11:04] <jman8888> Its a useless Folder. Just a temp for installing winetools. But i downloaded as su
[11:05] <Gregyboy> 1more question
[11:05] <lamego_> Gregyboy, after installing edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:05] <Gregyboy> the iso that i burn to a cd is a live boot cd aswell?
[11:05] <mcphail> jman8888: don't download things as the root user
[11:05] <jman8888> Yeah i know
[11:05] <lamego_> qwerty2k, yes he can
[11:05] <mcphail> jman8888: :)
[11:05] <Gregyboy> ?\
[11:06] <qwerty2k> Gregyboy, yes it is a livecd too
[11:06] <lamego_> ops, maybe i forgot to read something :\
[11:06] <bcron> I can't open the terminal...  any ideas?
[11:06] <qwerty2k> lamego_, he asked if he could edit grub from within windows, i said as far as i know you cant
, do you think i could run the live boot cd i have 256mb of ram and 3.20ghz celron
[11:06] <lamego_> qwerty2k, ok, sorry, didn't read that line :(
[11:06] <magical_trevsky> hi, does anyone know how to change the location that the gnome panel weather applet uses?
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> qwerty2k,  ya can install that ext2 IFS tool for xp and do it. :P
[11:06] <lamego_> qwerty2k, any he can, usign an ext2 driver for windows
[11:07] <lamego_> anyway
[11:07] <technel> I have two partitions: #1 is Windows (like 100gb) and #2 is Ubuntu (60gb). Ubuntu only has 3gb available and Windows has 83gb available (like I ever use it anymore ;). The Linux partition editors apparently are only able to expand the disk partition outwards on the disk, it can't move the start position to a point before. It is kind of off-topic, but could Partition Magic do this? I understand that this would require the program
[11:07] <technel>  to do a lot of moving on the disk
[11:07] <qwerty2k> Gregyboy, yes it should run (not much ram but should run) just try and see (note: installed version will be much fatser compared to livecd)
[11:07] <qwerty2k> lamego_, :O, didnt know that existed :)
[11:07] <gerhard> hachoo!
[11:07] <Gregyboy> do you guys think i shoudl  switch to linux on my min computer its a k6 500mhz with 184mb of ram
[11:07] <Gregyboy> ?
[11:07] <lamego_> qwerty2k, http://www.fs-driver.org/ :)
[11:08] <qwerty2k> Gregyboy, yes, but not ubuntu, try a smaller lighter distro
[11:08] <lamego_> Gregyboy, I would advise installinng Xubuntu
[11:08] <qwerty2k> lamego_, even that may be a bit slow, maybe something like damn small linux, peanut, puppy etc might be better?
[11:08] <Gregyboy> lamego_, whats the diffrence?
[11:09] <lamego_> Gregyboy, Xubuntu uses XFCE instead of Gnome, which is much "lighter"
[11:09] <qwerty2k> Gregyboy, it uses XFCE4 instead of gnome for a desktop environment, which is faster/less memory intensive
[11:09] <Gregyboy> dslinux, is only a boot cd
[11:09] <mcphail> Gregyboy: you'd do better with a little more RAM
[11:09] <Gregyboy> i have run it alot of times
[11:09] <Mikeport> Hello anyone know how to change the Resolution for an nvidia 6600 pci express, with dual monitor support for 1440 resolution on both monitor and refresh 60 ?
[11:09] <Gregyboy> so xubuntu?
[11:10] <qwerty2k> xubuntu or a different distro alltogether such as peanut or puppy yes
[11:10] <dr_willis_> Mikeport,  once ya install the nvidia drivers. you may need to research 'twinview' to get both monitors working.
[11:10] <Gregyboy> does xubuntu have the same interface?
[11:10] <Mikeport> dr_willis: and how about the resolution and refresh rate I CANT change with success
[11:10] <qwerty2k> any way, im off to watch match of the day :), will cya later guys, may be back on after :)
[11:10] <Gregyboy> because i hear that ubuntu is pretty
[11:11] <Pensacola> how can I reinstall the nvidia drivers?
[11:11] <qwerty2k> Mikeport, using the latest nvidia drivers u need to use the NOEDID (i think its that) option
[11:11] <dr_willis_> Mikeport,  once  the actual nvidia drivers are installed - it should detect what ones are allowed.
[11:11] <Pensacola> just uninstall the packages, and reinstall them?
[11:11] <dr_willis_> Pensacola,  thats one way
[11:11] <bcron> anyone?
[11:11] <lamego_> Pensacola, have you installed it from APT ? Synaptic ?
[11:11] <sh4dox> harisund: it worked !! thnq
[11:11] <Mikeport> dr_willis: no its not working
[11:11] <Pensacola> synaptic
[11:12] <Mikeport> qwerty2k: how can enable that ?
[11:12] <sh4dox> harisund: just a reboot did the trick, thnx again
[11:12] <foo> Is there a script that generates the ssl certificate?
[11:12] <Pensacola> because since today my fps are low in all games
[11:12] <Pensacola> and before they were alright
[11:13] <jman8888> does freenode have a Channel just to Talk about anything(I need to rant about the crappieness of my sandisk mp3)
[11:13] <jman8888> It says it has 38 files but both windows and linux cant see any...
[11:14] <pluma> Oopsie. Apparently I have a slight heat problem with my PC.
[11:14] <lamego_> jman8888, did you toggled the hidden files on linux ? To check for the .Trash file ?
[11:14] <edju> How to easily uninstall gnome and keep gtk?
[11:15] <Aar0n> where can i find the checksum for the 6.06 download please
[11:15] <lamego_> edju, sudo apt-get remove "gnome*" ?
[11:15] <phrowzen__> hey
[11:16] <Aar0n> hi
[11:16] <edju> Aar0n, That question mark worries me, but I'll give it a shot.
[11:16] <jman8888> lamego_, I dont see it. Theres no trash file. Never buy a sandisk...
[11:16] <phrowzen__> i just upgraded my machine from an a64 with msi k8n neo 2 platinum to a intel core 2 duo e6600 with asus p5w dh.... everything seems to be working fine so far from my previous platform, however.. not that it *really* matters, but, my onboard NIC's are listed as eth1/eth2.. and not eth0/eth1.. just kinda bugs me. im guessing its saving configuration from my previous motherboard?
[11:16] <lamego_> Aar0n, www.ubuntu.com, go to the download page
[11:17] <Aar0n> lamego_ I have looked but it gives a list of mirrors and where to order a cd but no checksum
[11:17] <phrowzen__> no one knows? ;\
[11:18] <Jbirk> one sec
[11:18] <lamego_> phrowzen__, try this: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/udev.htm
[11:18] <itsmegb> Aaron, go to a mirror, and there will be a file called MD5SUM
[11:18] <lamego_> Aar0n, look better
[11:18] <phrowzen__> thanks
[11:18] <itsmegb> has all the checksums
[11:18] <Aar0n> Ah thank you
[11:18] <sapaki> hi
[11:18] <Jbirk> calculating sums
[11:18] <Aar0n> And one more question, is there a checksum program that can just be run
[11:18] <Aar0n> Not installed
[11:18] <Jbirk> md5sum
[11:18] <Jbirk> that is the name of the program
[11:18] <Aar0n> thanks
[11:19] <lamego_> Aar0n, md5sum.exe
[11:19] <Chris37879> is there a way to assign diffrent folders for the desktops on each workspace?
[11:19] <Jbirk> FB3AF44C21F1F68CC25FDA7EDB8C1BD3
[11:19] <Mikeport> how can i force the resolution and refresh rato for nvidia 6600 pri express?
[11:19] <Jbirk> E2E201AA49564AF9F0977CECAB75B9A2DF093272
[11:19] <Jbirk> A187A660
[11:19] <Jbirk> First is MD5
[11:19] <Jbirk> second SHA1
[11:19] <Aar0n> thanks
[11:19] <Jbirk> and third is CRC-32
[11:20] <Jbirk> That is from my downloaded cd
[11:20] <phrowzen__> lamego_, following that along.. but in my udev rules.d there isnt that network file....
[11:20] <Jbirk> I never checked the mirror
[11:20] <Chris37879> anyone?
[11:20] <judicata> Anyone know the easiest way to upgrade OOo from 2.0.2 (which comes with Dapper) to the newest version (2.0.3)?
[11:21] <Chris37879> Synaptic probably would be the best way
[11:21] <Jbirk> or you can download it from the website
[11:21] <lamego_> phrowzen__, no idea :\ i just googled for eth rename :P
[11:21] <Jbirk> You can find the Deb package
[11:22] <phrowzen__> ahh okay hehe, thanks :)
[11:22] <phrowzen__> brb!
[11:22] <Jbirk> there are no new features
[11:22] <Chris37879> so does anyone know how to assigne difrent folders to diffrent workspaces?
[11:22] <FourPointNine> How do you Uninstall Ubuntu/Kubuntu? I want to try out some other things, then switch back later.
[11:22] <linuxuser> fourpointnine: just reformat the drive
[11:22] <Chris37879> you format the partition ubuntu is on
[11:22] <lamego_> judicata, removing the 2.0.2 and installing using the openoffice installer
[11:23] <Dev05> Hi there! I have finally made my Windoze PC connect through Wireless to my Linux box. Now, how do I make DHCP assing it an IP Address? I've set DHCP up but it still won't answer Windows' DHCP Requests.
[11:23] <judicata> Chris:it only has 2.0.2 in Synaptic.
[11:23] <FourPointNine> How do i do that?
[11:23] <Aar0n> Jbirk: sorry for such an idiotic question do I type in cmd "md5sum.exe -c filename.iso" or "md5sum.exe filename.iso -c"
[11:23] <Jbirk> Are you using Draper Drake
[11:23] <lamego_> Dev05, did you install an dhcp server ?
[11:23] <linuxuser> four: are you installing another os?
[11:23] <FourPointNine> Yes.
[11:23] <Jbirk> Yes
[11:23] <Jbirk> or md5sum /?
[11:23] <linuxuser> gparted works good
[11:23] <FourPointNine> I want to check out some other distros and other things.
[11:23] <Dev05> lamego_, Yes I did.
[11:23] <Jbirk> Since you are in windows, try this
[11:23] <linuxuser> or the new os will prompt u usually which partition to format and install on
[11:23] <^cyberbird^> did anyone found any good performance improvment tips?
[11:23] <Jbirk> http://beeblebrox.org
[11:24] <Jbirk> It will add a tab called File hashes
[11:24] <Jbirk> Just rightclick on anything and click on file hashes
[11:24] <linuxuser> four: are you dual booting?
[11:24] <Aar0n> I can't use anything that adds to the shell
[11:24] <FourPointNine> Yeah. I want to keep GRUB still for other uses.
[11:24] <^cyberbird^> i love ubuntu but not sure why its so slow?
[11:24] <raf_> quick question..how do i apply kernel patch to a kernel im about to compile?
[11:24] <Dev05> Any idea then???
[11:24] <Jbirk> It ins't slow at all
[11:25] <Chris37879> you may need to configure it better for your system
[11:25] <linuxuser> usually the new os will ask you if you want to install the boot loader but not always
[11:25] <linuxuser> which distro you looking at
[11:25] <Chris37879> or get some drivers... i got my nvidia drivers and my performance sky rocketed
[11:25] <ossie> hi guys, big thanks to whiter its now all done
[11:25] <FourPointNine> I was going to check out the FreeBSD UNIX distro.
[11:26] <lamego_> ^cyberbird^, did you removed some services you dont need ?
[11:26] <raf_> im doin 2.6.17.9 and want to add the 2.6.18 patch ..how do i do that?
[11:26] <linuxuser> think that one uses a manual drive partitioner
[11:26] <ossie> #ubuntu-xgl
[11:26] <linuxuser> or command line
[11:26] <lamego_> raf_, the current ubuntu kernel is not .17
[11:26] <whiter> welcome ossie
[11:26] <Chris37879> so does anyone know how i can set up diffrent desktop icon sets based on workstations?
[11:26] <raf_> what is the curent?
[11:26] <raf_> .18?
[11:27] <linuxuser> if memory serves me right, that one doesnt have a easy does it graphical installer
[11:27] <lamego_> 2.6.15-26-k7
[11:27] <raf_> im compiling cutom kernel
[11:27] <raf_> and i wanna apply the patch to it
[11:27] <lamego_> Chris37879, no idea
[11:27] <lamego_> raf_, patch -p0 < file.patch
[11:27] <raf_> ahh ok
[11:27] <raf_> cool
[11:27] <Thordasin> hi all :)
[11:28] <Chris37879> lameo cause the thing is i installed wine and some progs make the default shortcut to the windows desktop so i want workspace 2 to show the wine desktop instead of the ubuntu wone
[11:28] <Chris37879> lamego*
[11:28] <Dev05> Any networking geek out there? :(
[11:28] <Chris37879> me
[11:29] <pluma> I still get a Look Up timeout on Wikipedia.org in Firefox despite having disabled IPv6 as per the wiki article and having set the about:config value in Firefox appropriately. Dig and Network Tools Lookup still works.
[11:29] <Dev05> Chris37879, Have you read my question up there? :)
[11:29] <Chris37879> Dev05 no i missed it what do you need?
[11:29] <pluma> Also, does anybody know a way to monitor the system fans and system/cpu temperature in Linux? I don't want to have to reboot whenever I suspect that they might be acting up.
[11:30] <lamego_> pluma, like i have asked some time ago, did you checked your dns configuration ?
[11:30] <pluma> lamego_: You did? Sorry. Where do I check my dns config?
[11:30] <lamego_> pluma, doesn't your BIOS takes care of that ? Shuting dow if required ?
[11:30] <sapaki> what can I do if the cd boot ubuntu has frozen
[11:30] <Dev05> Chris37879, I made my Windows box talk to Linux via Ad-Hoc Wireless. Now, I need to set DHCP Server up so that it assigns Windows an IP Address. I've installed and gave some configuration to DHCP but it still won't answer Windows.
[11:30] <pluma> lamego: It does, but I'd rather know beforehand.
[11:30] <Thordasin> I think in /proc you can cat sysingo and get stuff
[11:30] <lamego_> pluma, /etc/resolv.conf
[11:31] <lamego_> pluma, i dont use it, but there is something called lm sensors
[11:31] <Maje> Can anyone help me out in fixing my ati drivers? I think I'm halfway to figuring out the problem, I just need someone who knows more to help me work it out
[11:31] <Chris37879> Dev05, hmm... i know it is easy to tell windows to DHCP but instead why not jsut manually assign windows an IP
[11:31] <lamego_> pluma, on a terminal, type sudo apt-cache search fan sensors
[11:32] <lamego_> Maje, did you install the drivers from apt ?
[11:32] <pluma> resolv.conf reads: nameserver 192.168.0.254 \n domain plum
[11:32] <pluma> Which is both right
[11:32] <Chris37879> Dev05, hmm... i know it is easy to tell windows to DHCP but instead why not jsut manually assign windows an IP
[11:32] <tulio> is there kind of startup list??
[11:32] <lamego_> pluma, your name service is coming from the router, did you checked the configuration on windows ?
[11:32] <pluma> WIth an actual linebreak, of course.
[11:32] <Maje> lamego_: yes, and my xorg log says DRI initialization failed, and modprobe fglrx returns an error...
[11:32] <Mikeport> dr_willis_:  I have that option enable but its not working
[11:33] <Mikeport> dr_willis_:  im using XGL with compiz...
[11:33] <lamego_> pluma, if on windows evertyhing is fine, eventually windows is using the internet dns servers
[11:33] <lamego_> i mean, from your isp
[11:33] <Chris37879> is there a gnome channel on freenode?
[11:33] <Mikeport> Hello anyone know how to change the Resolution for an nvidia 6600 pci express, with dual monitor support for 1440 resolution on both monitor and refresh 60 ?
[11:33] <Dev05> Chris37879, I wanted to share Linux's Internet Connection to Windows. It is stil possible with static IP's?
[11:33] <rummik> hey, i know this sounds stupid, but i'm having trouble installing ubuntu on my computer
[11:33] <lamego_> Mikeport, you will need to tweak your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:34] <tulio> is there kind of startup list??
[11:34] <pluma> "Preferred DNS Server" is set to the same address, which is the address of the hardware router.
[11:34] <lamego_> rummik, what is the problem ?
[11:34] <tulio> is there some kind of startup list??
[11:34] <lamego_> tulio, startup list for what ?
[11:34] <soundray> Mikeport: no, but have you looked at the readme in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx?
[11:34] <Mikeport> lamego_:  im doing that but its not working I cant enable the right resolution
[11:34] <tulio> lamego_: programs
[11:34] <Chris37879> Dev05 should be i dont see why not... can you get windows to read the shared folders off your linux box so that you know its working?
[11:34] <soundray> tulio: if you don't get a reply, there's something wrong with your question.
[11:34] <luciferR> I NEED FREE PSYBNC CAN ANYONE HELP ME?
[11:34] <tulio> soundray: ??
[11:35] <lamego_> tulio, yes, but it is not a simple list
[11:35] <expatrick> Can anyone help me with this one - my menu items like network and synaptic have disappeared from my menu, I'm not sure what I did or how to get them back
[11:35] <soundray> tulio: rephrase instead of repeating
[11:35] <Dev05> Chris37879, No, I can't even ping each other. Thay just "connect".
[11:35] <lamego_> tulio, its a group of scripts
[11:35] <rummik> lamego_: mainly my issue is that i can't mount this borked fedora partition to mount (they use some mounting scheme i'm not used too)
[11:35] <IceOwl> luciferR: see #dumbwarezkidz
[11:35] <lamego_> tulio, /etc/rc*.d/
[11:35] <Chris37879> he means is there and equal to the windows rograms->Startup thi8ng
[11:35] <pluma> lamego_: There are multiple windows computers on the network, on all of them wikipedia.org can be resolved correctly. The only PC acting up is my linux box, on which most domains work fine, except for wikipedia.org, which doesn't make sense.
[11:35] <Chris37879> if oyu cant ping thers no connect
[11:35] <_Budda> Chris37879: is there a good/easy guide for setting up shares on ubuntu for windows access using samba?
[11:35] <lamego_> rummik, can't you just wipe the partition ?
[11:36] <lamego_> pluma, on the windows box, open a command prompt
[11:36] <pluma> lamego_: Also, as I said, the DNS server is set to the same, i.e. the router.
[11:36] <lamego_> pluma, and tupe ipconfig /all
[11:36] <Dev05> Chris37879, Well, in both boxes it says: Connected.
[11:36] <rummik> lamego_: i'd lose my cool trash
[11:36] <lamego_> pluma, check for the dns server IPs
[11:36] <ossie> any ideas how to allow unsigned repositorys in apt-get
[11:36] <lamego_> pluma, so, so it's not dns, its a networking issue
[11:36] <pluma> lamego_: 192.168.0.254
[11:36] <tulio> lamego_: rc.local ?
[11:36] <pluma> lamego_: Same result
[11:36] <lamego_> tulio, thats to add your own commands...
[11:37] <finalbeta> can I install openssl sources thru apt-get?
[11:37] <lamego_> pluma, ok, i am out of ideas, that seems to be a networking issue
[11:37] <Chris37879> One sec let me look
[11:37] <lamego_> rummik, do you know what partition type is it ?
[11:37] <lamego_> rummik, using the live cd, open a terminal and type: sudo fdisk -l
[11:37] <Mikeport> soundray: yes it look it
[11:38] <soundray> finalbeta: yes, if you have source repositories activated
[11:38] <rummik> lamego_: Linux LVM
[11:38] <Chris37879> Budda, if you right click the folder or file your trying to share (assuming you have ping connection) go to share folder/file then tell it to use SMB
[11:38] <Mikeport> soundray: the problem I cant get the resolution to work the way I want
[11:38] <tulio> lamego_: so, evertyme I start a session on my ubuntu this script will run?
[11:38] <pluma> It's not a networking issue. As I said, dig and Network Tools lookup CAN resolve the address.
[11:38] <Aar0n> hello again
[11:38] <pluma> Or at least, it's not an obvious networking issue.
[11:38] <soundray> Mikeport: sorry, can't really help you any further, just wanted to make sure you knew that particular doc file.
[11:38] <expatrick> I somehow nuked all the menu items that require me to enter the root password - how can I get them back?
[11:39] <Aar0n> I ran the md5 checker and it gave me E2E5E0BFB2EDFFD2CE02DD77BDA4558E for the 6.06 desktop install ISO.
[11:39] <lamego_> tulio, no, that is for boot things
[11:39] <lamego_> tulio, it will run everyting the system boots, and it is not for graphical commands
[11:39] <technel> I just have a file called "test" with #!/bin/bash and on the next line echo "Hello world" and whenever I run it, it doesn't do anything
[11:39] <Mikeport> Anyone knows how to enable the resolution for Nvidia 6600 pci express at 1440x900 at 60 ?
[11:39] <Chris37879> Budda, it will auto apt-get the stuff you need to do a SMB or NFS share
[11:39] <crazy_penguin> Good night! Sleep well! :)
[11:39] <tulio> lamego_: i just want that some programs start when i start my session. how do I do that?
[11:39] <lamego_> pluma, if firefox hangs during "Lookup" it is doing a lookup...
[11:40] <lamego_> pluma, have you tried with other browser ?
[11:40] <rummik> lamego_: when i try to mount /dev/hda2 it says that it is already mounted or the mount point is busy
[11:40] <verbose> Mikeport: create a Modeline...google Modeline generator
[11:40] <lamego_> tulio, System -> Preferences -> Session
[11:40] <jadrifter> technel: how do you "run" it?
[11:40] <itsmegb> Aar0n, which disk have you downloaded?
[11:40] <technel> jadams, "test" :\
[11:40] <lamego_> rummik, so, it is mounted, or the mount is busy :)
[11:40] <lamego_> rummik, try "mount"
[11:40] <lamego_> check if it is mounted
[11:40] <lamego_> just mount, no parameters
[11:40] <jadrifter> try ./test if you're in the same directory.
[11:41] <Aar0n> itsmegb: The 6.06 i386 700mb ISO off bittorrent. I think I have found the answer to my failing install anyway.
[11:41] <rummik> lamego_: already have, it's not mounted
[11:41] <Aar0n> I burnt at 48x.
[11:41] <Mikeport> verbose: what is that ?
[11:41] <technel> jadams, bash: ./test: Permission denied
[11:41] <itsmegb> oki doki
[11:41] <oblib> can anyone tell me how to replace a bad kernel module? gamecon is buggy in Dapper, and I want to fix it
[11:41] <technel> jadams, sudo: ./test: command not found
[11:41] <jadrifter> technel: Great!
[11:41] <technel> jadams, And then, finally: sudo: /home/michael/Desktop/test: command not found
[11:41] <technel> jadams, :(
[11:41] <jadrifter> technel: NOW you're trying to run the file but the permissions are wrong.
[11:41] <Aar0n> Mikeport: verbose means word for word, so in a log it means detailed.
[11:41] <verbose> Mikeport: it's a line in your xorg.conf that tells your monitor what resolution and refresh rate to use
[11:41] <technel> Erm, sorry, I have been talking to jadams isntead of jadrifter  :P
[11:41] <FourPointNine> How do I uninstall Ubuntu/Kubuntu? Can someone tell me where and how to?
[11:42] <soundray> Aar0n: funny
[11:42] <verbose> Aar0n: hahahahaha
[11:42] <jadrifter> technel: "chmod 0700 test" will fix it.
[11:42] <Chris37879> what is the Gnome IRC channel?
[11:42] <lamego_> FourPointNine, look on the foruns, there are instructions how to do it
[11:42] <FourPointNine> Where on the forums?
[11:42] <verbose> Mikeport: for a lot of lcds you need one...i'm assuming you have a widescreen lcd if you're running 1440x900(or want to)
[11:42] <lamego_> rummik, create e temporary dir
[11:42] <Dev05> Chris37879, It may be in GimpNET.
[11:42] <lamego_> and try to mount it there
[11:42] <technel> jadams, Oh, 666 doesn't have execute for owner? Ok, thanks
[11:42] <Aar0n> Errrr
[11:42] <OsirisX11> help! my synaptic won't start: synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:42] <soundray> Mikeport: check out http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:42] <Aar0n> I meant verbatim. But the latter definition was correct.
[11:43] <FourPointNine> Thanks lamego_. =).
[11:43] <soundray> Aar0n: verbatim has logged off, though...
[11:43] <Aar0n> what speed should i burn the iso at?
[11:43] <AnI> hi hi
[11:43] <rummik> lamego_: still the same problem, i was trying to mount it on /mnt before
[11:43] <verbose> OsirisX11: do you have libvte.* in /usr/lib?
[11:43] <AnI> im total nub with linux
[11:43] <Aar0n> and at disc at once or track at once?
[11:43] <soundray> expatrick: still here?
[11:44] <AnI> ycan i get some help on installing xubuntu?
[11:44] <expatrick> yep
[11:44] <tulio> lamego_: thansk man!
[11:44] <tulio> =D
[11:44] <expatrick> I was just wandering over to #gnome to see if anyone there could help
[11:44] <itsmegb> OsirisX11: try here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239238
[11:44] <OsirisX11> verbose: no. :( ls: /usr/lib/lvte*: No such file or directory
[11:44] <Dev05> AnI, You can.
[11:44] <lamego_> tulio,  :)
[11:44] <rummik> lamego_: could the unionfs be causing this problem, or do i just not understand how unionfs works?
[11:44] <AnI> sweet
[11:44] <expatrick> soundray - any ideas?
[11:44] <AnI> thanks in advance
[11:44] <wikijeff> Can I make gmail in firefox my preferred email application??
[11:45] <soundray> expatrick: I think the way forward is to create a new user, then to copy the appropriate files from the new user directory.
[11:45] <AnI> my installation hang at blank screen
[11:45] <lamego_> rummik, uninonfs is from the livecd it has nothing to do with mounts :)
[11:45] <AnI> before it even ask me to configure harddisk
[11:45] <soundray> expatrick: don't ask what the appropriate files are -- just trying to find out...
[11:45] <AnI> no graphic ionterface at all
[11:45] <houman> hi there, does anyone know how to compile a source package? its a source package i got from synaptic (i know about make and stuff, just wondering if there is a quick way to compile a source package from the repositories)
[11:45] <lamego_> rummik, type: fuser -cu /mnt
[11:45] <nox-Hand> Is there not a music-maker app for Linux (( free )) - I cant remember the good Windows apps, but like Ejay, just....better and less...newbieish?
[11:45] <AnI> i was told its nvidia driver problem
[11:45] <Dev05> AnI, What Video Card do you have?
[11:45] <AnI> so i installed nvidia driver
[11:45] <lamego_> houman, source package from synaptic, are you sure ?
[11:45] <mistraal> how do I boot with acpi=off? Edit menu.lst?
[11:45] <Thaur> nox-Hand, didn't you ask that question, like, 2hours ago ?
[11:45] <AnI> and changed the xorg
[11:46] <lamego_> mistraal, yes
[11:46] <AnI> dirver to invida
[11:46] <waspius> hey sorry to be off topic..i installed icewm and i was wondering if anyone knew how i can install a desktop in it
[11:46] <SillyZ> anyone got a good site for directx workarounds under wine?
[11:46] <AnI> and how do i resume the graphic interface
[11:46] <AnI> after all that
[11:46] <AnI> im still at $
[11:46] <expatrick> soundray - how do I create a new user?
[11:46] <nox-Hand> Thaur, I did :) No reply xD
[11:46] <houman> lamego_: yes quit sure, the name of the package is: qc-usb-source
[11:46] <Thaur> nox-Hand, :P
[11:46] <SillyZ> execve adduser
[11:46] <rummik> lamego_: comes up with a bunch of stuff "/mnt:        5724rc(ubuntu)"
[11:46] <nadir1> ciao
[11:46] <OsirisX11> itsmegb: thanks! i was using Quinn's mirror.. i think this will fix it. i appreciate it!
[11:46] <lamego_> expatrick, System -> ADministration -> users
[11:47] <lamego_> rummik, that means a lot of programs are using that directory
[11:47] <soundray> expatrick: in the terminal, 'adduser temp'
[11:47] <Thaur> nox-Hand, If you google for Orion. It's decent, a lot more complexed, and very decent, you can get it running under Wine with some work
[11:47] <Dev05> AnI, Are you booting from a LiveCD and you want to install it to your PC? That's what you need? Or you already have something set up?
[11:47] <lamego_> rummik, it means you need to mount it elsewhere
[11:47] <Jbirk> How can I install groupwise?
[11:47] <cvasilak> hi, sorry if this is asked before....i have a wmv video file, what is the name of the package that installs the win32-codec pack in mplayer, on the cosole it complains that it can't find "/usr/lib/win32/wmvdmod.dll"
[11:47] <itsmegb> OsirisX11: no worries, the thread caught my eye earlier
[11:47] <SillyZ> does 6.06.1 run kde 3.5.4 by anychance?
[11:47] <lamego_> rummik, mkdir /tmp/mymount
[11:47] <soundray> expatrick: with sudo of course
[11:47] <lamego_> and use it instead
[11:47] <Jbirk> !thunderbird > jbirk
[11:47] <Maje> Alright, I still can't get my fglrx drivers working, would I get better help from #ati or #dri?
[11:47] <mistraal> lamego_: thx ... so I just add the line acpi=off anywhere?
[11:47] <AnI> im booting from live cd
[11:47] <si9o> anyone know why my quake 3 sound might be dying?
[11:47] <AnI> and trying to install it to harddisk
[11:47] <lamego_> mistraal, nope, append it to the kernel line
[11:47] <Dev05> AnI, OK, you booted the LiveCD and everything came up fine?
[11:47] <AnI> but its not detecting my graphic card corretly
[11:47] <lamego_> it needs to be appended to the linux kernel line
[11:47] <AnI> yeah
[11:48] <AnI> everything was good
[11:48] <AnI> until i get a blank screen
[11:48] <expatrick> soundray: adduser: Only root may add a user or group to the system.
[11:48] <rummik> lamego_: i get the same error
[11:48] <AnI> not the graphic intereface
[11:48] <mistraal> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash acpi=off ??
[11:48] <AnI> i see on the gallery
[11:48] <Dev05> AnI, When do you get the Blank Screen?
[11:48] <expatrick> then I tried sudo adduser temp
[11:48] <nox-Hand> Thaur, Orion, right :D Cheers
[11:48] <expatrick> and get nothing
[11:48] <AnI> first is the xubuntu start screen
[11:48] <lamego_> rummik, grrr can't be
[11:48] <Jbirk> YOu will have to put that in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:48] <AnI> with the stat bar
[11:48] <reter> how can i upload pictures from my camera?
[11:48] <AnI> and whole bunch of stuff load
[11:48] <Jbirk> You can also remove quiet and splash
[11:48] <lamego_> rummik, please paste the command you have used
[11:48] <soundray> expatrick: that's why I said use sudo. The full command is 'sudo adduser temp'. Log in as temp once after that to make sure all gnome files are created in /home/temp/
[11:48] <AnI> then i get blank
[11:49] <AnI> before the install screen
[11:49] <AnI> soo now i have nothing
[11:49] <rummik> lamego_: sudo mount /dev/hda2 /tmp/mymount
[11:49] <ossie> #ubuntu-xgl
[11:49] <AnI> when i press ctrl alt fi
[11:49] <AnI> f1
[11:49] <Dev05> AnI, Wow. Have you tried another distro. of Ubuntu, like Ubuntu itself (with GNOME) or Kubuntu (KDE)?
[11:49] <AnI> i get $
[11:49] <expatrick> soundray: should I get some sort of interface? i just get nothing
[11:49] <AnI> and i can do all the sudo stuf
[11:49] <jackn> jbirk what does 'quiet' mean in this grub menu file?
[11:49] <lamego_> rummik, sudo fuser -cu /tmp/mymount
[11:49] <Jbirk> Not sure
[11:50] <AnI> well
[11:50] <Jbirk> but it supresses some text
[11:50] <AnI> i have an old system
[11:50] <Jbirk> and so does teh splash
[11:50] <AnI> i was told xubuntu would run better
[11:50] <houman> hi there, does anyone know how to compile a source package? its a source package i got from synaptic
[11:50] <Jbirk> I just know if you remove them both, you can see everything boot
[11:50] <AnI> but i guess i can try ubuntu
[11:50] <AnI> i only have a p3 650
[11:50] <Jbirk> i.e. you can see Linux boot and every single [ok] 
[11:50] <soundray> expatrick: first, it should ask for your password, unless you've used sudo recently. Did it do that?
[11:50] <Jbirk> et cetera
[11:50] <jackn> Jbirk sort of opposite of 'verbose' you're saying
[11:50] <Dev05> AnI, How much RAM?
[11:50] <expatrick> it did not, but i did use sudo recently
[11:50] <rummik> lamego_: it says there's one user using it "5785(ubuntu)"
[11:50] <Jbirk> right
[11:50] <AnI> 256
[11:50] <nadir1> quit
[11:51] <reter> how can i upload pictures from my camera?
[11:51] <Jbirk> if you don't remove quiet and splash, you get very little info
[11:51] <lamego_> AnI, if you have an older system, yes you should use xubuntu, and you should use the alternate cd
[11:51] <Jbirk> besides it looks cooler when it boots without the splash and quiet
[11:51] <lamego_> rummik, its you !
[11:51] <soundray> expatrick: then it should say "Enter new UNIX password:"
[11:51] <AnI> wahts the alternate cd?
[11:51] <expatrick> it didnt
[11:51] <Jbirk> You can see grub boot and the linux kernel load
[11:51] <lamego_> rummik, i told you to mkdir, not to cd to it
[11:51] <AnI> link to it?
[11:51] <jackn> Jbirk thanks
[11:51] <Jbirk> and file systems mount
[11:51] <AnI> i used the x86 one
[11:51] <expatrick> :(
[11:51] <rummik> lamego_: i'm not sitting on the directory
[11:51] <Jbirk> What I recomend you do is copy a working one
[11:51] <Jbirk> and paste it below
[11:51] <technel> So in a bash script why can't I do FILE_FORMAT=date "+%Y-%m-%d" ?
[11:51] <Jbirk> then give it a different name
[11:51] <expatrick> just a new prompt
[11:51] <rummik> lamego_: i'm not *that* stupid :P
[11:51] <technel> How do I assign a variable to the output of a command?
[11:51] <Jbirk> Here is what mine looks like
[11:52] <lamego_> rummik, ok, so lets kill the bith, sudo fuser -fcuk /tmp/mymount
[11:52] <Dev05> AnI, The screen goes blank or you go to a Console?
[11:52] <soundray> expatrick: what do you get from a 'ls /home/temp'?
[11:52] <AnI> well it goes blank
[11:52] <AnI> if i don't press anything
[11:52] <soundray> expatrick: btw, you didn't copy and paste the quotes, did you?
[11:52] <expatrick> ls: /home/temp: No such file or directory
[11:52] <AnI> then i press
[11:52] <Jbirk> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-26-386 (Show Full OS Boot)
[11:52] <Jbirk> root            (hd0,0)
[11:52] <Jbirk> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro
[11:52] <Jbirk> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-26-386
[11:52] <Jbirk> savedefault
[11:52] <Jbirk> boot
[11:52] <Jbirk> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-26-386
[11:52] <Jbirk> root            (hd0,0)
[11:52] <AnI> clt alt f1
[11:52] <Jbirk> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[11:52] <Jbirk> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-26-386
[11:52] <AnI> it goes to consol
[11:52] <lamego_> Jbirk, use pastebin !!!!
[11:52] <Jbirk> savedefault
[11:52] <Jbirk> boot
[11:52] <waspius> anyone?
[11:52] <lamego_> !! anyone
[11:52] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:52] <Jbirk> YOu see how I have both
[11:53] <verbose> Jbirk: ever heard of pastebin?
[11:53] <Jbirk> I also have the recovery and the memtest option still there
[11:53] <Jbirk> No, what is pastebin?
[11:53] <lamego_> !! pastebin > Jbirk
[11:53] <wikijeff> Can I make gmail in firefox my preferred email application??
[11:53] <expatrick> soundray: i didnt paste the quotes :)
[11:53] <rummik> lamego_: it spits the same error
[11:53] <pepe> hola
[11:53] <lamego_> wikijeff, i believe you will need an extension for that
[11:53] <expatrick> this is bizarre
[11:53] <rummik> lamego_: that is, when i try to mount it again
[11:54] <lamego_> rummik, rummin, please fuser on it again
[11:54] <wikijeff> lamego, an extension for firefox?
[11:54] <lamego_> theck with the number
[11:54] <expatrick> why isn't sudo asking me for a password?
[11:54] <lamego_> do ps -fp number
[11:54] <rummik> lamego_: says nothing is using it
[11:54] <lamego_> wikijeff, yes, i believe the google toolbar for firefox supports setting that
[11:54] <digital__> how do I umount /var? I'm in single user mode. I've tried umount /var but it says the device is busy
[11:54] <wikijeff> expatrick, it stores it for I think 15 minutes
[11:54] <lamego_> expatrick, because you have entered it already and it didn't timed out yet ?
[11:54] <verbose> expatrick: possibly someone changed your sudoers file to not require a password?
[11:54] <expatrick> sudo doesnt return anything anymore - eg, sudo ls yields nothing
[11:54] <omnid> How to compile
[11:54] <Jbirk> okay http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d21139
[11:54] <omnid> C++
[11:55] <verbose> expatrick: how about sudo ls /
[11:55] <verbose> omnid: g++
[11:55] <expatrick> verbose - nothing
[11:55] <bcron> what do you do when the terminal will not launch
[11:55] <omnid> How do I launch G++?
[11:55] <nopcode> omnid: get a copy of windows and visual studio
[11:56] <omnid> ugh
[11:56] <omnid> no thanks
[11:56] <soundray> expatrick: 'which sudo'?
[11:56] <verbose> omnid: it's g++(case sensitive) and you type `g++ blah.cpp`
[11:56] <omnid> nopcode: If you're going to tell me to get on windows at least tell me to use bloodshed
[11:56] <Dev05> AnI, I don't know... Because you're telling me that X starts up and Xfce starts loading. AFTER that, you get a blank screen. I don't know if Xfce saves some kind of log file somewhere.
[11:56] <expatrick> soundray: /usr/bin/sudo
[11:56] <omnid> Your suggestion is null nopcode
[11:56] <peace-keeper> damn my ubuntu froze completely and i had to push reset.. thought that only happens in windows :D
[11:56] <nopcode> omnid: "bloodshed"?
[11:56] <jackn> expatrick what does whoami give?
[11:57] <exs> How can I upload a picture on the net quickly?
[11:57] <expatrick> patrick
[11:57] <expatrick> my username
[11:57] <Flannel> expatrick: ftp?
[11:57] <Flannel> er, exs
[11:57] <gerhard> whats "lament" in German?
[11:57] <expatrick> flannel: huh?
[11:57] <omnid> nopcode: http://www.bloodshed.net/devcpp.html
[11:57] <AnI> thx anyways
[11:57] <omnid> devc++
[11:57] <AnI> yeah startx don't work either
[11:57] <soundray> gerhard: lamentieren, laut protestieren, rumheulen
[11:57] <Herbal> suddenly my synaptic is broken, itll ask for my password and then not do anything
[11:57] <Dev05> AnI, ?
[11:57] <AnI> how do i start Xfce manuallY/
[11:57] <AnI> yeah
[11:58] <AnI> dev
[11:58] <gerhard> soundray: thx
[11:58] <Dev05> Herbal, You run Compiz?
[11:58] <Herbal> yes
[11:58] <expatrick> soundray: was ist mit mein computer los?
[11:58] <nopcode> omnid: written in delphi? rotfl
[11:58] <digital__> how do I umount /var?
[11:58] <Dev05> Herbal, Just a sec.
[11:58] <expatrick> :)
[11:58] <verbose> digital__: haha, that should do it
[11:58] <verbose> (umount /var)
[11:58] <soundray> expatrick: would you prefer to continue in #ubuntu-de?
[11:58] <jackn> expatrcik what about su?
[11:59] <soundray> jackn: no!
[11:59] <digital__> verbose: It doesn't work!
[11:59] <omnid> nopcode: Yeah aparently! I like it a lot better than Visual Studio though.
[11:59] <FourPointNine> I couldn't find the uninstall topic on the forums.
[11:59] <jackn> soundray Ok, why  not?
[11:59] <exs> Whats the other alternative to flickr?
[11:59] <Dev05> AnI, I don't know. If you can go to a Console, try running X. Just type: X . Nothing else and see if there's some weird output.
[11:59] <verbose> digital__: be more specific please
[11:59] <nopcode> omnid: i doubt i could use anything written in delphi
[11:59] <soundray> jackn: deprecated in ubuntu
[11:59] <verbose> digital__: as in, are there errors? what happens...is /var mounted?
[11:59] <AnI> dev05 ok
[11:59] <expatrick> jackn - su asks for my password but it doesn't like the password I give it - which IS the root password
[11:59] <AnI> i have to reintall
[11:59] <expatrick> ...or was :(
[11:59] <AnI> i mean restart the booting
[11:59] <AnI> thing
[11:59] <digital__> verbose: I'm in single user mode. I tried "umount /var" and it says the device is busy.
[11:59] <AnI> it will be awhile i will pm
[12:00] <AnI> ty soo much
[12:00] <lamego_> FourPointNine, http://www.techspot.com/vb/all/windows/t-38428-How-Do-I-Uninstall-Ubuntu-Linux-From-WinXP-Dual-Boot-Machine.html
[12:00] <jackn> soundray don't know what you mean, can use it all the time
[12:00] <Flannel> expatrick: heh, the best question is probably, what did YOU do to break your system? ;)
[12:00] <lamego_> FourPointNine, google is your friend
[12:00] <soundray> jackn: sure you can, but it isn't good practice
[12:00] <expatrick> soundray: no, thanks I don't speak german very well
[12:00] <jackn> flannel that's like RTFM, now let's help
[12:00] <verbose> digital__: use lsof to see what files are open in /var
[12:00] <Dev05> Herbal, sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libvte.so.9 /usr/lib/libvte.so.4
[12:00] <reter> so how do i change my usb camera options? i would like to upload some pics
[12:00] <expatrick> flannel - probably
[12:00] <jackn> soundray why not
[12:00] <verbose> digital__: then kill all processes that are using those files
[12:00] <SillyZ> Q:
[12:00] <Flannel> jackn: no.  It's not.  If he knows what he mightve done, it'll narrow down our search signifigantly.
[12:00] <digital__> verbose: OK
[12:00] <digital__> be back
[12:00] <FourPointNine> Google can betray me. Anyone can repeatedly click their link and bump it up, even if it is a fraud.
[12:01] <expatrick> is my computer 0wned? :)