[12:18] Riddell: making kdebase: /usr/include/linux/joystick.h:131: error: __s64 does not name a type === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mornfall [n=mornfall@rb4b151.net.upc.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:29] <\sh> yuriy: check include/linux/asm/types.h [12:30] <\sh> sorry [12:30] <\sh> include/asm/types.h [12:30] <\sh> and then if it's fetching the right arch [12:31] <\sh> #if (defined(__GNUC__) && !defined(__STRICT_ANSI__)) || (__STDC_VERSION__ >= 199901L) [12:31] <\sh> typedef __signed__ long long __s64; [12:31] <\sh> typedef unsigned long long __u64; [12:31] <\sh> #endif === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@adsl-70-237-232-94.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hawkwind [n=SoS@ulteo/community/leader/forum/admin/Hawkwind] has joined #Kubuntu-Devel === mornfall_ [n=mornfall@rb4b151.net.upc.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@66-252-37-128.da.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@adsl-70-237-232-94.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mornfall [n=mornfall@rb4b151.net.upc.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@adsl-70-237-232-94.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ooh,] === mornfall [n=mornfall@rb4b151.net.upc.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === samjnaa [n=samjnaa@59.92.41.183] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:15] hello [02:15] Hello samjnaa [02:16] hey samjnaa bddebian [02:19] hello samjnaa Hobbsee bddebian [02:19] Hello Riddell [02:19] hey Riddell [02:20] heh. 1am again. === Hobbsee wonders what on earth she was going to do [02:22] Fix all the kubuntu bugs? [02:22] Good morning Hobbsee [02:22] bddebian: no, dont think so...i dont really have enough time for that.. [02:22] hey Hawkwind [02:23] Heya Hawkwind [02:23] Hey there bddebian [02:23] bddebian: besides, i thought you were doing tha.t === Hobbsee has been doing *gasp* gnome-related merges recently, actually [02:23] Hobbsee: Nah, I don't do anything [02:24] bddebian: sure you do. now get to it === Hobbsee cracks her whip against the ground [02:24] :P === claydoh [n=clay@66-252-38-144.da.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:32] samjnaa: going to become an elite kubuntu developer? [02:32] Riddell: hehe - this is the way of saying "hey, i want this packaged" is it not? :P [02:33] well, as it happens, we do need someone to package SoC project kmformat http://www.micoulou.info/kformat/KMFormat0.1beta.tar.gz [02:33] hahaha [02:33] thought so :P === Riddell beds [02:38] night Riddell === Hobbsee cant package it - work [02:44] monis [02:45] moins* [02:45] hello. [02:45] sorry to reply late. === mornfall [n=mornfall@rb4b151.net.upc.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:47] an elite kubuntu devel? donno. [02:47] Gnight Riddell [02:47] i really don't have such programming knowledge. just learning c++ [02:47] riddell is gone to bed? [02:47] too bad [02:47] i didn't get to talk to him [02:47] but i get to talk to you guys! :) hi all! [02:48] hey how do i do those blue lines starting with a star, like "exeunt paris and alicia" in shakespeare? [02:49] one thing - can anyone assure me that kdeedu, kdevelop, qt designer and kdegames are present in the kubuntu dvd? the list file does not contain those entries [02:50] hello, is anyone there? [02:51] I am but I don't know the answer sorry === mornfall [n=mornfall@rb4b151.net.upc.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:51] you have downloaded dvd or cd to install kubuntu? [02:52] ok ttyl [03:06] ouch nice tarbal ( it was all extracted to the working dir lol ) i'll have to change it anyhow to a orig.tar.gz heh who's SoC project is this anyhow Riddell ? [03:09] ugh not auto tools heh [03:09] imbrandon: Any luck yet on u4 ? [03:10] Hawkwind: tbh i forgot about it heh , lemme check out this kmformat SoC code then i'll grab it hehe === imbrandon just woke up [03:10] No rush. Was just curious :) [03:10] me fskin eyes are swolen, almost closed , sucks heheh === samjnaa [n=samjnaa@59.92.41.183] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru_ [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:31] hello [03:31] can anyone tell me whether kdeedu, qt designer, kdegames and kdevelop are present in the kubuntu dvd or not? thanks === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@206.248.109.24] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:58] hello can anyone answer my question? [03:59] No, but you can download and install them via apt-get as soon as the install is complete [04:00] so why must i download 3.5 GB to get an incomplete kde isntallation? [04:01] You don't have to. Download 700MB instead [04:01] so what's in the extra 2.8 GB? [04:01] No idea. Never looked at the DVD personally === mornfall [n=mornfall@rb4b151.net.upc.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:28] dvd = livecd + text install cd + main repo [04:28] if they are in main they are on the dvd just maybe not installed [04:38] how do you say dvd = livecd + alternate cd + main? [04:39] see http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cdimage/kubuntu/releases/6.06/release.1/kubuntu-6.06.1-dvd-i386.list [04:39] there is no mention of kdeedu or kdegames in that === samjnaa [n=samjnaa@59.92.41.183] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:42] sure there is /pool/main/k/kdegames/kdegames_3.5.2-0ubuntu3_all.deb [04:44] and kdeedu isnt in main [04:44] kdeedu | 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu3 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages [04:44] i said MAIN is included on there ;) [04:45] ok sorry didn't see well [04:46] kdevelop and qt-4 designer is also universe? ah well [04:46] so it is authoritative that whatever is in main is included in the dvd? if yes, i may take your word for it but should it not be somewhere onthe wiki for the general public? [04:48] yes and yes [04:49] ok here's the next question. does the kubuntu dvd contain gnome and xfce as optional addl desktops? [04:50] btw thanks for your patience... [04:51] No [04:51] But you can install them with one simple command: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop [04:52] /pool/main/g/gnome-menus/gnome-menus_2.14.3-0ubuntu1_i386.deb [04:52] then what is this sitting on the dvd for:? [04:53] i meant that deb [04:54] as far as i can see by doing kdiff on the dvd.list and the alternate-cd.list, the bulk of the content of the dvd lies in internationalization files, aspell ispell packages, [04:56] since they are included in main they are on the dvd but not installed by default [04:57] -dev packages, something called db, emacs, additional development packages like dbg, a lot of gnome applications, kdegames, [04:57] as Hawkwind you just run that command ( and have the dvd in your frive ) [04:57] and kdetoys, kdewebdev and koffice [04:57] since they are included in main they are on the dvd but not installed by default [04:57] as Hawkwind you just run that command ( and have the dvd in your frive ) [04:58] the dvd doesnt install anything more than the cd, it just makes the packages avaible without adaitional download ( unless they have been updated since the dvd was made ) [04:58] ok now can i create a supplemental cd by downloading all the packages from universe that i want? [04:59] sure but you'll have to tweak te layout for apt to use it, its not a automatic thing [04:59] i can't just tell apt - "see here's another cd source"? [04:59] if the cd is in the correct format yes [05:00] what do i have to do to make the cd in the correct format? === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:00] basicly same as you would in debian there are lots of links on google that will walk you threw it [05:00] another q - does the dvd at least allow for choice of packages during install or no? [05:00] No [05:00] no [05:00] ITS TEH SAME AS THE CD INSTALL [05:01] it just has more packages on the dvd that are NOT installed by default [05:01] ok sorry for bugging. [05:01] that apt will use first if it has not been updated on the net [05:01] i dont mind but just listen, we said that before ;) === Riddell [i=jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:02] wb Riddell [05:02] and zakame [05:03] is http://www.tummy.com/journals/entries/scott_20050602_215318 what i am looking for? [05:05] tbh i'm not sure as i just get it from the internet [05:05] but i know it can be done [05:05] Just download the 700MB Alternate CD and do an install and start learning. Best way IMO === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:09] i already have installed the alternate cd [05:10] i have problems with my net connection. errors with 1.0.0.0 (search on ubuntuforums for that ip) and blacklisting ipv6 doesn't help [05:10] so i am trying to download manually. (please add "when using adept online update i get" before "errors") [05:12] suggestion to devels: would it be practical: [05:12] to provide a supplemental cd which contains all the additional packages from the dvd *minus* the i18n packages? [05:12] i believe the i18n packages only take much space on the dvd === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@206.248.109.24] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:12] and minus the -dev packages [05:13] it would be easy for people who have slow or no internet connection or no dvd drive to install a greater number of packages [05:14] or we could have a jigdo-based utiliity which will download any custom selection of packages and make a cd image out of it? [05:14] is that possibvle? [05:14] this realy isnt the place to ask as we dont handle that [05:15] oh sorry [05:16] kubuntu-devel is not the place. what is the place? [05:16] i thought the kubuntu developers come here [05:17] samjnaa: Try in #Kubuntu [05:17] samjnaa: This channel is for the dev stuff of Kubuntu as far as packaging and things [05:20] ok logging out === samjnaa [n=samjnaa@59.92.41.183] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === samjnaa [n=samjnaa@59.92.41.183] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.109.24] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tm_T [i=tm_travo@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru_ [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:46] imbrandon, freeflying you 2 there? [06:46] lnxkde: hi [06:46] hi! [06:46] lnxkde: heya [06:46] :) [06:46] moins freeflying [06:47] I made nice LIvecd :D [06:47] imbrandon: moin :) [06:47] lnxkde: using pud? [06:47] but ubiquity crash on the install :( [06:47] nope [06:47] goping to try the scrip later [06:47] if it crashes, use the 6.06.1 alternate (text-based) installer image [06:48] crimsun, it just crashes with my custumization [06:48] normal live cd works nice [06:49] what did you customise? [06:49] the wallapaer [06:49] :p [06:49] na [06:49] I installed QT designer, KDE 3.5.4 [06:49] amarok 1.4.1 [06:49] enabled mp3 and most of the codecs [06:49] kaffeine-xine [06:49] and all the nice stuff I use in my system [06:54] freeflying, what was the page you gave me I dont know were i put the link [06:55] lnxkde: www.ubuntu-zh.org/~freeflying/pud [06:55] thnkx [06:59] bbl [06:59] I have to install something here... === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === niKsternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === niKsternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:59] hi all [08:32] heya Hobbsee [08:32] hey imbrandon, how's kde4? [08:32] heh a headache so far ;) [08:33] imbrandon: ouchy. [08:33] imbrandon: got an amd64 handy? i'm not sure why nqc broke on it [08:33] yup [08:34] hold on lemme login to it [08:34] nqc ? [08:34] imbrandon: it's a package [08:34] hiya guys and gals :0 [08:34] http://librarian.launchpad.net/3932557/buildlog_ubuntu-edgy-amd64.nqc_2.5.r3-4_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [08:34] hey niKsternal [08:34] 'ello niKsternal [08:36] Riddell: i have kmformat ready for you when you wake, the SoC student though should realy use a buildsystem of some kind , heh , but i got arround it [08:44] Hobbsee: looks to be an actual code error , not packaging on amd64, and that i cant do much about as i dont know specifics that cant be used on a amd64 as far as asm/c++ === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:56] imbrandon: and i've got no idea why it worked on almsot all other arches then [08:58] Hobbsee: no idea either, probably leave that one to the amd64 experts and move to the next quest ;) [08:58] imbrandon: right, yeah [08:58] it looked like a code error to me too, which is odd that it would then work on i386, ppc, etc [08:59] many things work on x86 and not x86_64 ( or ppc etc etc etc ) [08:59] true [09:03] hmm, meaning "compiler/Error.h:97: error: cast from 'const char*' to 'int' loses precision"? [09:04] crimsun: i'm not sure exactly what it's failing on. i would have thought that was a warning [09:04] that's the classic 64-bit pointer issue [09:04] ah [09:04] anyone else checked out the new kubuntu kdm screen yet? [09:05] nope i am about to shortly ;) [09:06] imbrandon: when you do, want to grab a screenshot? [09:07] Hobbsee: http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/nqc/news/20060818T174732Z.html , btw. [09:07] woot , see theres the fix ;) [09:07] compiler/Error.h, compiler/Error.c: Do a more thorough job of tracking [09:07] down the real problem with the fData member. I think this will really [09:07] fix the FTBFS. Closes: #287812. [09:07] crimsun: oh cool, thanks [09:08] crimsun: our version is synced from debian. do i have to request a sync again, or will it get autosynced? auto syncs are off now, arnet they? [09:09] I'd request a[nother] sync [09:09] cool === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:14] holy jesus , heh imbrandon.com stats went way up the last two weeks [09:14] Average successful requests per day: 2,466 [09:23] !ssh [09:23] ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.34.91] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.48.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:21] imbrandon: great, thanks [11:21] moins Riddell [11:21] hmm, ubuntu-news didn't contain any of the things I sent to Mattrevel [11:22] burger sent it i think === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:25] Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2912 <-- kmformat , definately not the most gracefull but works with what was provided ;) [11:26] dident know if you wanted me to just upload it or not [11:26] i had to change his ./install script a bit at the bottom so the paths would work with a debian build system === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:26] I'll take a look after meeting [11:26] but its in the diff.gz at the bottom [11:26] kk [11:27] meeting today ? distro team? i thought that was cancled ? [11:27] becosue of the sprint [11:27] imbrandon, Riddell: hey [11:28] imbrandon: arf, I was working on this one (kmformat) just now :) [11:28] heh Riddell poked someone to do it last night and no one said anything so i did it ;( [11:29] imbrandon: I say I would do it :) [11:29] read the logs :) [11:29] hehe [11:29] [19:33] well, as it happens, we do need someone to package SoC project kmformat http://www.micoulou.info/kformat/KMFormat0.1beta.tar.gz [11:29] [19:33] hahaha [11:29] [19:33] thought so :P [11:29] [19:34] * Riddell beds [11:29] [19:37] night Riddell [11:29] [19:38] * Hobbsee cant package it - work [11:29] [19:44] monis === Huahua [n=hua_@123.49.238.186] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:30] Tonio_: sorry but i dident and still dont see it ;( hehehe [11:30] imbrandon: no problem [11:30] hopefully you dident spend too much time with it [11:31] the package is done and on revu, that's all right [11:31] imbrandon: nope I didn't [11:31] okies ;) [11:31] imbrandon: not an ubuntu meeting (a quaker meeting) [11:31] ahh ok ;) hehe [11:32] Riddell: are you a quaker ? did knew this ;) [11:33] yes, that's why I just sit there quietly quaking away [11:34] Riddell: ^_^ === imbrandon isnt sure what a quaker even is ;) === abattoir wonders if it refers to someone who is part of the 'Religious Society of Friends' or someone who plays quake :P [11:35] abattoir: the first :) [11:35] ;P [11:35] abattoir: lol [11:35] I must say the confusion could exist indeed :) [11:35] lol atleaste on irc i guess [11:36] Riddell: aah, ok :) [11:37] ok more mt dew and time to fix konversation, ping me if something looks strange with that kmformat Riddell me and bddebian did the best we could with the psudo build system he has [11:37] ;) [11:38] who's SoC project is that anyhow ? === Tonio_ tracks little polishing issues on kubuntu... it looks like the lipstik has a little issue with transparancy... plastik is kind of a clone of it, but doesn't bug... [11:39] Riddell: should/could we switch to plastik in case we don't find any solution ? [11:39] Tonio_: want another polish isssue i dont have time to look at ? === imbrandon uses plastic and polyester anyhow ;) [11:40] both themes are about the same, the only difference is kickers separators [11:40] imbrandon: sure [11:40] I have a few settings to do in kontact too [11:40] its with the new kdm theme, it dosent look correct in xdmpc login see: http://imbrandon.sytes.net/ss6.png [11:41] since the "synchronization" button displays since 3.5.3 and we don't want it (no kitckensync installed) === apachelogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:41] i took that screen shot about 3 hours ago [11:41] what is knext ? [11:41] moins apachelogger [11:41] yop apachelogger [11:42] Tonio_: you mean xnest ? its a nested xserver inside a running xserver ( it uses the xdmpc login screen ) [11:42] hola! [11:42] oups xnest sorry (/me just wokeup !!) [11:42] imbrandon: wow that's VERY specific issue at least :) [11:43] Tonio_: to test what i have in the screen shot install xnest package and run "Xnest -query localhost :1" with xdmpc enabled in kdmrc [11:43] xdmpc is used for remote logins too ;) [11:43] yes I know, the thing that nobody uses :) [11:44] because I never get it work properly :P [11:44] terminal server kind of technologies are more interesting to me at least :) [11:44] hehe i was using it to give UWN the screenshot for the new KDM theme but it dident work out as seen ;) [11:44] imbrandon: should that be considered a bug in kdm theme or in xdmpc ? [11:44] kdmtheme [11:44] err the kdm theme [11:44] imbrandon: well kwwii is the expert for this [11:45] by far more accurate on this than I am [11:45] probably , hehe you was just talking about polish , thought i would point it out ;) [11:45] imbrandon: you maybe should create a bug on kubuntu-artwork package and send him an email [11:45] yea i planed on it, just noticed a few hours ago and havent taken the time to [11:46] imbrandon: sure, but concerning this part, there is someone really better than I am, so better ask him directly ;) [11:46] okie no worries ;) [11:46] especially when kdm theme is kind of a mess I must say [11:46] heh [11:47] xnest is good to test say kde4 also becouse you can install kde4 in a user home dir , and xnest login with that user ;) [11:47] kinda like a vm but not ;) [11:48] I remember Riddell complaining kdm was a real mess when he worked on the graphical shutdown using usplash [11:48] it looks like gdm is really easy to handle :) [11:48] yea they essentialy are the same except the tool kit uses afaik but i've never really paid much attention [11:49] the themes are pretty interchangeable ( with only minor changes most of the time ) === imbrandon is finaly upgrading his last breezy fileserver to dapper [11:50] and it will stay dapper for 5 years LOL [11:50] i hate upgrading that thing [11:50] something always breaks [11:56] imbrandon: yes [11:56] it is like upgrading debian on a production server.....; [11:56] I generally do it by night [11:56] yup ;) === Tonio_ loves to migrate by night [11:57] my best experience is a full migration from windows 2003 / IIS and all the intranet to debian / sun active server pages + apache in one night [11:58] that was kind of hot since we decided to migrate at 20 and started at 21 lol [11:58] hahaha ;) [11:58] IIS security issue, so we didn't have any other option [11:58] i bet [12:00] Riddell: hows the kde 4 packages shapin up ? heh [12:07] Riddell: I have been able to reactivate antialiasing on fonts, I'm working on kds to had it === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:14] wb Hobbsee [12:15] hey imbrandon [12:15] yay, amarok 1.2 release today [12:15] hi Hobbsee, imbrandon [12:15] hey danimo [12:15] yop danimo [12:15] danimo: yeah, supposedly. 1.4.2, you mean [12:15] Hobbsee: guess what , konvo build on edgy yay \0/ heh building the dapper now and then i will sync [12:15] imbrandon: yay :) [12:15] Hobbsee: erm, yes :) [12:16] imbrandon: then you will sync? ie, then you will do the daily builds? [12:17] no then i will upload, it just finished, uploading now [12:17] Hobbsee: good news, k3b now works properly, thanks to toma [12:17] imbrandon: oh cool === Hobbsee wonders where to [12:17] Tonio_: yay :) [12:17] you doing amarok 1.4.2 today ? [12:17] imbrandon: yes, i expect so [12:17] Hobbsee: same place i always upload to ;) [12:18] imbrandon: ie, buntudot repos, i hope [12:18] yes [12:18] good [12:18] Hobbsee: the really strange point i katapult === imbrandon wouldent upload a nightly to dapper ;) === Hobbsee doesnt want to see sho_'s reaction if we uploaded straight to the edgy repos. [12:18] it seems to work on some computers, but toma could reproduce my issue.... [12:18] hahaha [12:18] Hobbsee: I think it works for you no ? [12:18] Hobbsee: they are built with full debugging so he would probably like it [12:19] Tonio_: katapult works here [12:19] imbrandon: ah ok, nice [12:19] Hobbsee: grmpf........; that is really strange [12:19] Riddell: is katapult working for you ? [12:19] Tonio_: katapult works fine here too [12:19] imbrandon: argh ! [12:19] imbrandon: edgy ? [12:19] yup [12:19] Tonio_: you and toma wouldnt happen to be running skim, would you? [12:19] Hobbsee: nope [12:19] Sysinfo for 'voyager': Linux 2.6.16-6-686 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.93GHz at 2932 MHz (5868 bogomips), HD: 42/184GB, RAM: 653/927MB, 122 proc's, 19.32h up [12:20] shows -16 becouse this si a xen DomU [12:20] but its edgy [12:21] Tonio_: right, so i cant blame that then. [12:21] Tonio_: that was the problem with the "i cant make my konsole transparent" [12:23] Hobbsee: ah oki [12:24] Hobbsee, imbrandon: I assume you have seens the latest kdmtheme -the black one [12:24] what is your opinion on this ? [12:24] Tonio_: hmmm.... [12:24] I assume it is an in progress version, but that's... strange I must say [12:24] it looks nice, but it's not right [12:24] yeah [12:25] it's almost too busy [12:25] and/or the colours dont blend [12:25] or is it that they blend too well? [12:25] yea i seen it , just filed a bug on it here in a minute look http://imbrandon.sytes.net/ss6.png [12:25] well kwwii knows what he does, but I just hope this is not is final goal :) [12:25] Tonio_: of course [12:26] imbrandon: yes but did you see the working one ? [12:26] oh yes, that's it. the black sections need to be all black. or mostly black [12:26] it currently looks like there's too *much* shiny fading [12:26] i love shiny stuff - but there is a limit on it [12:27] Tonio_: not yet, u ahvent restarted kde in days [12:27] s/u/i/g [12:27] Tonio_: i just did [12:31] Tonio_: katapult also works here (edgy with ~/.kde from dapper) [12:31] imbrandon: is this just because of xnest or do you get it also on normal system? === Hobbsee wonders how xnest works [12:32] lure normal xdmpc login too [12:32] Hobbsee: its just a nested xserver ;) [12:32] does edgy come with zeroconf enabled? [12:32] imbrandon: well, yeah, but how do you use it? [12:32] Riddell: does qt4 work in edgy now? [12:33] danimo: no [12:33] danimo: i dont think so. there was a long and complicated thread about it though [12:33] Tm_T: yes [12:33] imbrandon: yay! [12:33] Hobbsee: I guess from the same people who want to keep the IPP detection off by default [12:33] Lure: I installed a dapper and it worked, it started to fail while I migrated to edgy [12:33] and it did this when I reinstalled too [12:33] Hobbsee: you can start it by "xnest :1" then shove any thing you wanted to run on display :1 === Hobbsee is downloading it [12:34] Hobbsee: because they think it makes the system vulnerable [12:34] Tonio_: I have clean Knot1 install + updates on laptop and dapper->edgy upgrade on desktop and both work [12:34] danimo: yes, obviously [12:34] Lure: shit..... [12:34] Tonio_: but both are using old .kde from dapper [12:34] Lure: my installation too, here is the strange issue [12:35] Lure: can you try to create a new profile eventually [12:35] to use .kde from edgy, and confirm me if it works or not ? [12:35] could be an interesting test [12:36] Hobbsee: I share Kurt's opinion on that: It's totally BS [12:36] Hobbsee: and it makes things complicated without need === danimo hates how zeroconf is anything but zeroconf on linux [12:37] Tonio_: tried with the Edgy user and it still works. sorry. === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:39] Lure: argh ! === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:41] Hobbsee: congrats on top ten: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+topcontributors! [12:41] Lure: thanks :P === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:48] I'm uploading kds, antialiased fonts will now work [12:48] is there a launchpad bug to close concerning this ? [12:48] Tonio_: i would think so === Hobbsee looks [12:48] Tonio_: thanks for that - my eyes really hurt on edgy ;-) [12:48] Lure: hehe [12:49] Lure: the point is I don't know if that'll work for existig profiles* [12:49] but on new ones, it works here [12:50] Tonio_: bug 56420 [12:50] Malone bug 56420 in kdebase "I lost antialiased fonts after upgrade to the kde 3.5.4" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56420 [12:50] Tonio_: we will see [12:50] Lure: I just would like someone to confirm this before closing the bug [12:51] it works here at least [12:51] Lure: can you test if I send you the deb plz ? [12:51] Tonio_: yep [12:51] dcc send [12:52]