[12:08] <utab> tomaczec: ????????
[12:09] <tomaczec> utab: erm?
[12:09] <utab> tomaczec : what is erm?
[12:09] <Hawkwind> waspius: If you want to save files, make a place to save them to instead of saving everything to your Desktop.  That's just an insane way of saving things
[12:10] <Hawkwind> waspius: Why would you want all that clutter on top of your desktop wallpaper ?  Keep it clean and organized.
[12:10] <utab> tomaczec : do you have suggestions on the problem
[12:10] <waspius> Hawkwind: i dont disagree..i just had setup firefox to download everything on my desktop
[12:11] <tomaczec> utab: since i could not decode '?????' i said 'erm' to express that i am in a deadend street when trying to understand what you said.
[12:11] <Hawkwind> waspius: Tell firefox to ask you where to save stuff at all times.  That way you can save certain file types in various places
[12:11] <waspius> Hawkwind: and when i downloaded the themes they went to my kde desktop..do i make it clear now?
[12:11] <utab> tomaczec: I was confused sorrt
[12:11] <archdrone> i reinstalled grub but the boot menu is still not there, only shell, anyone pls?
[12:11] <Hawkwind> waspius: Sure.  But the theme manager within IceWM should be able to change directories/browse for other directories on your system so you can install the themes
[12:11] <waspius> Hawkwind: i know that..but the easiest place is to download on my desktop and from there put them there where i want
[12:12] <Hawkwind> waspius: I disagree
[12:12] <utab> tomaczec: have you heard this before
[12:12] <Hawkwind> waspius: Why save it somewhere and then move it.  Why not just save it where you want it to begin with and stop wasting the time of having to move stuff around
[12:13] <slow-motion> n8
[12:13] <tomaczec> utab: what? i mean what do you mean i have heard.
[12:13] <utab> tomaczec type problem in KDE
[12:13] <waspius> Hawkwind: ok u r right. anyhow i cannot even find how to create a folder or add a backround...
[12:13] <tomaczec> utab: nope.
[12:13] <utab> tomaczec thx
[12:14] <utab> can not type in KDE
[12:14] <utab> the problem started today before it was OK
[12:15] <ubuntu> Hi. What's the status on the kubuntu dapper installer? Mine crashes. Any fixes yet?
[12:16] <crimsun> are you using the 6.06.1 installer?
[12:16] <Hawkwind> waspius: Then it's time you read the IceWM site or search google for docs.  I don't and have never used it really so I only know the very basics to it
[12:16] <ubuntu> crimsun: i doubt it. let me check.
[12:17] <waspius> Hawkwind: thanx allot though..i find that kubuntu is the most helpful channel here...
[12:17] <waspius> Hawkwind: i hope i get to the point where i can contribut
[12:18] <Hawkwind> waspius: Sorry.  I wish I could help you more
[12:18] <Hawkwind> waspius: If you stick with it, you will.  We were all in your shoes at one point.  I now have several sites that the community uses quite often.  http://SeerOfSouls.com/  and http://LinuxForDummies.org/ mainly
[12:18] <waspius> Hawkwind: dont worry u have done more than enough
[12:18] <ubuntu> crimsun: using kubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso, so yes.
[12:19] <ubuntu> is there a text-only installer i can use to install kubuntu?
[12:19] <crimsun> ubuntu: yes, the one labeled alternate
[12:19] <ubuntu> :/
[12:19] <grothesk> ubuntu: When does it crash?
[12:20] <jrr> Hi folks.  I'm having trouble getting a USB laser printer to work in Kubuntu.  It's an Okidata C5500n, but that is not listed as a supported driver in the setup wizard.  It has lots of okidatas, but nothing that seems to be compatible with this printer.
[12:20] <ubuntu> near the partition info section. but then the first time i ran it, it was fine. It copied files from the CD and then wanted to connect to the inet to get security updates. I didn't run ifconfig, so it crashed. Been crash
[12:20] <ubuntu> ing since.
[12:21] <jrr> Googling, I find a lot about other Okidata printers, but no mention of this one existing.  Any suggestions?
[12:21] <jrr> I've tried some of the other Okidata drivers, but it doesn't print a test page.
[12:21] <ubuntu> crimsun: can I not apt-get the text-only installer?
[12:22] <phreakys_> join #kubuntu-xgl
[12:22] <phreakys_> hm
[12:22] <phreakys_> what was the xgl irc channel for ubuntu again?
[12:23] <crimsun> ubuntu: not in the sense you probably mean
[12:24] <tomaczec> jrr: really, pass back that printer. check what will work with linux. and buy this hardware. btw, my hp 1510 rox.
[12:25] <jrr> tomaczec: Not an option.  It was a hand-me-down for a low-budget political campaign. :-)  Our budget is "whatever is donated".
[12:25] <ubuntu> crimsun: ok, downloading the alternate iso on my main box :/ thanks for your help.
[12:25] <crimsun> ubuntu: np, g'luck.
[12:25] <ubuntu> thanks :)
[12:25] <jrr> I also tried the generic postscript driver.  No luck.
[12:26] <tomaczec> jrr: good option to tell you political ppl about what is needed. and what sucks.
[12:27] <ubuntu> jrr: linux printing site might give your more info...
[12:27] <jrr> ubuntu: Looked at it.  They have various other Okidatas listed, but not this one.
[12:28] <ubuntu> ahh :(
[12:28] <jrr> tomaczec: So do you know that this printer doesn't work, or are you just saying not to use anything but a specific HP?
[12:29] <tomaczec> jrr: nope, nope.
[12:29] <jrr> That's clear...
[12:30] <DFM> evening all
[12:30] <DFM> anyone have any idea why a thinkpad's buttons will work in ubuntu but not kubuntu?
[12:31] <ubuntu> i need to change my nick :/
[12:31] <DFM> I installed ubuntu and the volume buttons worked perfectly but they won't in kubuntu
[12:35] <grothesk> DFM: Did you try to use kcontrol?
[12:39] <Hawkwind> Ahhh, a nice, new, shiny 2.6.17.9 kernel :)
[12:40] <OOD> any noticable improvements?
[12:40] <sorush20> hi guys just wanted to know if there are any extra calendars for korganizer ..
[12:41] <Hawkwind> OOD: Seems to be slightly faster.  I made the jump from 2.6.15-26 to 2.6.17.7 and then .8 and now .9.  2.6.17 seemed a bit quicker, even on boot
[12:43] <ubuntu_404> loads of bugs in kubuntu :(
[12:48] <sorush20> this channel is silly or what?
[12:48] <sorush20> it is empty.. yet full.
[12:48] <sorush20> I'm joining kde
[12:50] <jamesconf> Hello, I am having a problem booting kubuntu, seams to hang after the initial splash screen. If anyone knows of any boot options that don't start the x-server that might help
[12:52] <DFM> grothesk, i was researching on another screen
[12:54] <actinic> !cups
[12:54] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:56] <actinic> i've heard getting printers to work with kubuntu dapper and KDE is pretty hosed.
[12:57] <actinic> everyone's printing just fine, right?
[12:57] <jamesconf> really depends if there a drivers for your printer
[12:57] <actinic> well this includes *any* HP printer
[12:58] <actinic> which accounts for what ... maybe 50% market share?
[01:01] <ubuntu_404> i have a HP printer and it's fine with cups...
[01:02] <OpeNZ> I just mounted an ntfs partition but konqueror shows it as a "locked folder" and i cant seem to unlock it - help!
[01:02] <actinic> ubuntu_404, you set it up thru Kubuntu?
[01:03] <ubuntu_404> actinic: no
[01:04] <actinic> then how?
[01:04] <ubuntu_404> the hp drivers and userland utils. compile + install.
[01:04] <jamesconf> OpenNZ, my first guss would be to look at the fstab file. mounting might not be giving reguler users the execute to the folder.
[01:04] <ubuntu_404> then get kde and cups to pick it up on the usb bus, and voila! one working printer.
[01:04] <jamesconf> Of coruse I just started kubintu, I have no idea if there is an "easy" way of checking things
[01:05] <actinic> compile?
[01:05] <ubuntu_404> yes
[01:05] <actinic> is this documented as standard operating procedure?
[01:05] <actinic> somewhere?
[01:05] <ubuntu_404> its in the hp drivers readme file...
[01:06] <actinic> not exactly condusive to new users
[01:06] <ubuntu_404> mostly the standard configure && make && make install, and change one shell script to look in the installed dir
[01:06] <OpeNZ> thanks james, will take a look
[01:06] <actinic> there's got to be an easier, less involved routine ... like other distros
[01:06] <ubuntu_404> condusive to new users?
[01:07] <actinic> to ask someone to compile drivers just to get their HP to work is going to turn alot off
[01:08] <ubuntu_404> autopackage it
[01:08] <actinic> and it really shouldn't be necessary
[01:08] <ubuntu_404> compiling is great
[01:08] <ubuntu_404> it's open source. change it. change the way the project does things. if it bothers you so much.
[01:08] <actinic> if I wanted to compile I'd be using Gentoo
[01:08] <jamesconf> OpeNZ the relavent info would be in the umask section.
[01:10] <OpeNZ> jamesconf: this is the fstab line - /dev/hdb1 /Windoze ntfs uid=0,gid=0,auto,ro,nouser 0 0
[01:13] <jamesconf>  OpeNZ ok, /dev/hdb1 is being mounted read only, thats normal for ntfs, and only root can actuly read it
[01:14] <OpeNZ> i remember that ntfs is usually read only but i thought all user should be able to read, not just root
[01:14] <jamesconf> OpeNZ adding a umask=555 should work
[01:15] <jamesconf> OpeNZ don't take that at 100% :) it's completly from memory, my linux system is not up yet
[01:15] <jamesconf> OpeNZ ie umask=555,uid=0,.....
[01:16] <OpeNZ> ok, does the unmask statement have to fit in any order on that line or just on the end of the line?
[01:16] <OpeNZ> ah ok
[01:16] <jamesconf> OpeNZ if i remember right no, just has to be with the other options with no spaces, (this is a comma delemnted list)
[01:17] <gybot> Hi, i need help getting a player in Firefox. like moz player or something like that
[01:17] <gybot> ?
[01:17] <jamesconf> a video player?
[01:17] <gybot> ya and music also
[01:18] <eckstona> I need help binding my mouse buttons to keyboard buttons
[01:18] <ubuntu_404> how come the kubuntu/ubuntu barely mention xmms?
[01:18] <jamesconf> In the past I have used mplayer in the past with firefox to play videos. Maybe a starting point.
[01:19] <gybot> how can i download them or something
[01:19] <gybot> ??/
[01:19] <eckstona> synaptic?
[01:19] <eckstona> Try that
[01:19] <gybot> I have adept
[01:19] <lmosher> What's a good DVD authoring program w/ a menu creator?
[01:19] <eckstona> get synaptic, it rocks
[01:20] <gybot> I am used to Adept and i use to run synaptic but didn't enjoy it
[01:20] <jamesconf> anyone remember where scsi drives are under /dev
[01:20] <ubuntu_404> jamesconf: sd*  sg*  sr*  st* under /dev
[01:21] <ubuntu_404> d = disk, g = generic, r = cdrom t = tape
[01:21] <ubuntu_404> afaik
[01:22] <jamesconf> umm, I was affried of that
[01:22] <ubuntu_404> jamesconf: why are you afraid of that?
[01:24] <jamesconf> ubuntu_404 means I forgot how to use fdisk
[01:24] <ubuntu_404> heh
[01:25] <ubuntu_404> i should go to sleep
[01:25] <ubuntu_404> nite everyone
[01:27] <eckstona> Does anyone know how to bind mouse buttons to keyboard buttons?
[01:28] <Arkkis> Heh, tomaczec can now add another person to his list of people who've got files back with reiserfschk --rebuild-tree
[01:28] <Arkkis> got files back
[01:28] <Arkkis> joy \o/
[01:33] <red_> what is the closest app to winamp for this os
[01:34] <red_> or is winamp available
[01:37] <jamesconf> how do I get a root login
[01:38] <Hawkwind> jamesconf: sudo
[01:38] <Hawkwind> red_: xmms
[01:38] <Hawkwind> red_: You can even use some winamp skins with xmms
[01:39] <Hawkwind> jamesconf: You can also do sudo su -  or sudo -i or sudo passwd and then create a root login
[01:39] <red_> nice
[01:39] <jamesconf> Hawkwind ok, I did not think of that last part
[01:41] <jamesconf> Hawkwind, have you been on undernet before? your username looks like someone I knew.
[01:42] <Hawkwind> jamesconf: Heh of course.  I used to op #Mandrake and #Mandriva on Undernet and here on Freenode
[01:42] <jamesconf> ok, then i was not losing my mind.
[01:46] <jamesconf>  Sweet go, I was one click away from erasing my hardrive. for once I am gald for the conformation
[01:46] <jamesconf> s/go/god
[01:47] <nnn0> :D
[01:50] <ballchalk> hi
[01:52] <samjnaa> hello
[01:52] <samjnaa> i am new to kubuntu
[01:52] <pierreth> hello
[01:52] <pierreth> me too
[01:53] <samjnaa> ok have you downloaded the dvd?
[01:53] <samjnaa> kubuntu dvd i mean?
[01:53] <pierreth> no the cd
[01:53] <ballchalk> i am also new to kubuntu
[01:53] <samjnaa> anyone else here downloaded the dvd?
[01:53] <pierreth> is there a dvd available too?
[01:53] <samjnaa> yep there is certainly a dvd available but i am now thinking what is the use of downloading the dvd
[01:53] <samjnaa> because it does not appear to have kdegames, kdeedu and kdevelop
[01:54] <ballchalk> i was deciding between freebsd and kubuntu until i asked a question in #freebsd and got flamed
[01:54] <ballchalk> i guess linux has a better support community
[01:54] <ballchalk> no wonder they grow so fast
[01:54] <samjnaa> *ubuntu* has a better community
[01:54] <jamesconf> hehe, that sounds like an odd two choices.
[01:54] <samjnaa> (ot) besides, freebsd is not for the average home user. it will drop you to a terminal at default boot
[01:55] <samjnaa> you need pcbsd. anywya, back to topic.
[01:55] <pierreth> ballchalk: really, you received flame?
[01:55] <pierreth> i heard that desktopbsd is cool
[01:55] <ballchalk> well yea it started by one of the devils going "kubuntu are for idiots"
[01:56] <ballchalk> i wanted to know what kinda of ACPI support i can get between linux and freebsd
[01:56] <samjnaa> ok guys anyone else here got the kubuntu dvd install?
[01:56] <ballchalk> they werent forthcoming
[01:56] <samjnaa> @ballchalk: acpi is a very basic technology. today i think any os will have good support
[01:56] <pierreth> what's the difference with cd and dvd?
[01:57] <ballchalk> well i have a thinkpad and ibm pushes linux so i'd rather go with somehing that requires the least work to get my computer running right
[01:58] <ballchalk> and i figured since i might need help in learning a new OS then kubuntu would be great
[01:58] <ballchalk> it doesn't take flame and anger to answer a simple ques heh
[01:59] <jamesconf> does kubuntu have many system configuration tools, as a long time and lazy mandrake user, I might miss them.
[01:59] <samjnaa> what is diff with cd and dvd means?
[01:59] <pierreth> well, i guess they are experienced geeks that don't like people
[01:59] <samjnaa> kubuntu has reasonably good config tools
[01:59] <samjnaa> dvd of course has many more packages than cd
[01:59] <ballchalk> pierreth: i figured
[01:59] <larson9999> lol@ ballchalk while linux has it's share of 'not so nice towards newbies' people bsd is notorious for that
[01:59] <pierreth> why should i download the dvd instead of the cd?
[01:59] <ballchalk> ya i kno
[02:00] <ballchalk> i remember a while back running rh and was in #redhat or something
[02:00] <ballchalk> they were horrible
[02:00] <ballchalk> but that was a while back when only geeks knew how t run them
[02:00] <larson9999> jamesconf: howdy!  i think it's as good as mandrake in the gui department.
[02:00] <ballchalk> brb
[02:01] <pierreth> i have the installed the cd and there is every thing i need i guess
[02:01] <larson9999> jamesconf: i'm seeeing more and more folks from #mandriva in here.
[02:02] <larson9999> ballchalk: i don't pay too much attention to the rh crowd.  i know several from places i've worked.  seems most still think linux isn't a good desktop
[02:03] <ballchalk> yea i just want something that doesn't break
[02:03] <trpr> larson9999: its better than it was but unfortunately users have been dumbed down to such a degree, they are probably right
[02:03] <ballchalk> i had osx on this thinkpad but it has no cpu throttle so it ran hot
[02:04] <ballchalk> very uncomfortable heh
[02:04] <larson9999> i had a nova that ran hot
[02:06] <samjnaa> @pierreth - i don't know why you should dload the dvd, since it doesn't seem to contain many more useful packages than the cd
[02:07] <pierreth> samjnaa: why is it so big then?
[02:07] <pierreth> ballchalk: osx on thinkpad? isn't made for mac only?
[02:08] <ballchalk> www.insanelymac.com
[02:08] <jamesconf>  awww, no cool boot loader splash screen by default.
[02:09] <marcus__> can i get a little help with an atheros wireless card please?
[02:10] <ballchalk> i can't stream mp3 stations in amarok 1.4.1
[02:10] <ballchalk> ?
[02:10] <ballchalk> how do i fix it?
[02:10] <pierreth> ballchalk: a project to put osx on pcs?
[02:11] <jamesconf> ahh crap, the system is hard locked
[02:11] <ballchalk> yes
[02:12] <pierreth> ballchalk: may be look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:13] <jamesconf> anyof you know the equal if init 3 for grub/
[02:13] <pierreth> ballchalk: i have mac :-)
[02:14] <david_> hello! , someone can help me please?
[02:15] <david_> somebody can give me the repos needed to install compiz in kubuntu please
[02:15] <jamesconf> umm.. this system locks on boot, but failsafe then telinit 3 works fine.
[02:16] <Search4Lancer_> argh.... how do I connect to a secure network with a WEP key?
[02:20] <redblades> Hi all.
[02:21] <Search4Lancer> what, nobody home?
[02:21] <redblades> huh?
[02:22] <harold> I'm new to chat rooms .. :)
[02:23] <harold> but have played with linux since 1997 though..
[02:24] <cracker017> Hi
[02:24] <cracker017> Does anyone know a list of Linux-compatible wireless cards?
[02:24] <cracker017> Or know a link to one?
[02:25] <Hawkwind> cracker017: Do you already have a card ?
[02:26] <jamesconf> Whats the tool to configure the Xserver
[02:26] <jamesconf> If it exsits
[02:26] <Hawkwind> jamesconf: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:27] <marcus___> any help for using a usb wireless device available please?
[02:27] <jamesconf> Harm, no configuration options for the nvidia driver
[02:28] <Hawkwind> marcus___: State your problem or ask your question
[02:28] <marcus___> i am trying to figure out how to access my usb wireless device
[02:29] <cracker017> Hawkwind: Yeah. My friend suggested I'd get a Linux-compatible card.
[02:30] <soulrider> hi
[02:31] <marcus___> what does ath0 mean in iwconfig?
[02:35] <marcus___> ath0 is enabled?
[02:35] <marcus___> that's weird
[02:40] <jamesconf_2> how would I list all files in a package. Doin't see the option in apt-get or apt-cache
[02:41] <exmethix> apt-file search
[02:42] <whoru> jamesconf_2: dpkg -L packagename
[02:43] <jamesconf_2> hehe, no apt-file command
[02:44] <whoru> jamesconf_2: and if you have konqueror do "apt:/" it gives you a lot of options
[02:45] <jamesconf_2> I was looking for something like urpmf from mandrake, Will search no only the installed files but the full repository
[02:46] <jamesconf_2> I mean, given a file name it will tell which package it belongs to.
[02:47] <jamesconf_2> In the end, unless I am missing something the nvidia-glx package seams to be missing  the nvidia-glx-config program;.
[03:00] <daddius> hello all i just installed kubuntu and unable to play mp3 music using amarok... but xmms works fine..
[03:00] <daddius> anyone encounter this problem?
[03:01] <harold> I did, but I stuck with xmms.
[03:02] <daddius> :-(
[03:02] <Hawkwind> !mp3 > daddius
[03:03] <daddius> strange cause on laptop amarok works fine with regular ubuntu
[03:04] <harold> I'm running a laptop and could not run amarok, but using xmms for now...
[03:05] <daddius> yeah... I have one laptop running regular ubuntu and just installed kubuntu on desktop
[03:05] <daddius> laptop runs but desktop doesn't...
[03:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> daddius: Why not?
[03:05] <daddius> i guess i have tou trouble shoot this one
[03:05] <daddius> :-(
[03:05] <daddius> i figure there is some lib missing
[03:06] <harold> I'm going to get ready to put kubuntu on my desktop...
[03:06] <daddius> man it was easy
[03:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> daddius: What goes wrong when you boot it?
[03:07] <brkamikaze> daddius: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[03:07] <brkamikaze> with the multiverse repo
[03:07] <brkamikaze> I'd like to solve a problem with Mesa...
[03:07] <brkamikaze> I recently installed a (half-finished) LFS system
[03:08] <brkamikaze> and before installing Dapper, I tested Mesa with the glxgears program
[03:08] <marcus__> can i recieve some help setting up my usb wireless please?
[03:08] <brkamikaze> it runs at about 0.1 fps :/
[03:08] <brkamikaze> but on LFS it ran at 300 fps and really smooth
[03:09] <brkamikaze> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1399339
[03:10] <brkamikaze> hmm... someone replyed to my post
[03:10] <brkamikaze> how do I restart X on the Desktop CD?
[03:10] <brkamikaze> just plain ol' Ctrl+Alt+Bkspc?
[03:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> brkamikaze: SHould work.
[03:12] <brkamikaze> i'll be back soon
[03:13] <pierreth> how does text syntax checking works?
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> pierreth,  care to clarify?
[03:14] <pierreth> Dr_Willis: on mac we can check for the syntax everywhere, what about linux?
[03:15] <pierreth> like how can i check the text that i am typing now Konversation?
[03:16] <pierreth> Dr_Willis: are you understanding?
[03:17] <brkamikaze> pierreth: you may configure KDE to at least do spell checking, AFAIK
[03:18] <brkamikaze> it works at least on Konqueror forms
[03:18] <pierreth> Aspell is selected right now
[03:19] <pierreth> Kate as command Syntax... but it does nothing
[03:21] <pierreth> brkamikaze: does it work with Firefox too?
[03:23] <pierreth> i guess it is not a strong feature of kde...
[03:23] <brkamikaze> pierreth: I think it doesn't, Firefox uses GTK
[03:24] <harold> there is an extension for firefox called aspell spell check..
[03:24] <brkamikaze> pierreth: right click on this line and select "Auto Spell Check"
[03:24] <brkamikaze> the input line
[03:25] <lothar> hi
[03:25] <lothar> bye
[03:26] <pierreth> allo
[03:26] <ballchalk> i have sun-java5-bin and jre installed and i still can't run frostwire
[03:26] <ballchalk> a little help here please
[03:26] <pierreth> everything is now in red
[03:27] <dr_willis> ballchalk,  from the terminal try 'java --version' and see what version it is
[03:27] <brkamikaze> Can someone with OpenGL on X knowledge help me with this topic? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1399400
[03:27] <ballchalk> ok
[03:27] <brkamikaze> pierreth: make sure you selected the right dictionary
[03:27] <isenburk> hey, dows anyone knows why is the compiz-kde package DEAD ?
[03:27] <ballchalk> java version 1.4.2
[03:27] <pierreth> brkamikaze: how?
[03:28] <ballchalk> i got it through apt-get
[03:28] <brkamikaze> Aspell as client, UTF-8 as encoding and whatever you want as Dictionary
[03:28] <dr_willis> ballchalk,  ok. just making sure you are using the SUN java. and not the GCC one
[03:28] <brkamikaze> KMenu->System Settings->KDE Components->Spell Checker
[03:28] <pierreth> brkamikaze: in Kontrol?
[03:28] <brkamikaze> it works too :P
[03:29] <brkamikaze> kcontrol
[03:29] <ballchalk> dr_willis: it's
[03:29] <ballchalk> java version "1.4.2"
[03:29] <ballchalk> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)
[03:29] <pierreth> brkamikaze: it does not work
[03:29] <ballchalk> do i remove it?
[03:29] <brkamikaze> pierreth: it is working out-of-the-box for me
[03:29] <pierreth> brkamikaze: everything is still in red
[03:30] <isenburk> anyone.. XGL on kubuntu ! any ideas ? links.. ?
[03:30] <brkamikaze> I just selected the dictionary
[03:30] <brkamikaze> pierreth: ...
[03:30] <pierreth> brkamikaze: :-(
[03:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubotu: tell isenburk about xgl
[03:30] <brkamikaze> when you type my nick the line looks red too :P
[03:30] <dr_willis> ballchalk,  doh! ya aint using the sun java then
[03:30] <ballchalk> dr_willis: adept tells me sun-java5-jre and bin are both installed
[03:31] <ballchalk> ^
[03:31] <dr_willis> ballchalk,   theres a command that selects the default java for the system to use
[03:31] <dr_willis> but i forget the command
[03:31] <dr_willis> :)
[03:31] <ballchalk> ok
[03:31] <ballchalk> so there may already be a sun version of java installed then?
[03:31] <dr_willis> its a system so you can have different versions/variants of things and easially select what one to use.
[03:31] <ballchalk> wait
[03:31] <ballchalk> isn't java5 same as java 1.5?
[03:31] <brkamikaze> CheeseBurgerMan: are there Mesa and X server packages available that don't use DRI?
[03:31] <dr_willis> Its installed. it seems.. but what was that command...
[03:31] <brkamikaze> or do I have to compile them myself?
[03:31] <ballchalk> which command?
[03:32] <ballchalk> ohh ok
[03:32] <ballchalk> hmmmmmm
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> brkamikaze: I haven't a clue. I've never used XGL/Compiz
[03:32] <ballchalk> yea i did it in mac once forgot it allowed me to select between 1.4 and 1.5
[03:32] <samjnaa> hello
[03:32] <samjnaa> http://download3.vmware.com/software/vmplayer/VMware-player-1.0.2-29634.i386.rpm
[03:32] <ballchalk> in command line
[03:32] <brkamikaze> CheeseBurgerMan: it's not exactly about XGL, but about everything that uses OpenGl
[03:32] <ballchalk> shucks
[03:32] <samjnaa> sorry for that link
[03:32] <brkamikaze> like glxgears
[03:32] <ballchalk> brb
[03:32] <samjnaa> can anyone tell me whether kdeedu, qt designer, kdegames and kdevelop are present in the kubuntu dvd or not? thanks
[03:32] <ballchalk> gotta check the stove
[03:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> brkamikaze: I still really haven't any clue at all, sorry.
[03:33] <dr_willis> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[03:33] <brkamikaze> samjnaa: no, but you can download and install if you have enough ramdisk space
[03:33] <dr_willis> THATS it :P
[03:33] <dr_willis> lol
[03:33] <dr_willis>  the whole 'alternatives' system is a neat idea that i need to read up on some day
[03:33] <samjnaa> why are they not included in the dvd? i am downloading 3.5 GB for an incomplete kde installation?
[03:33] <brkamikaze> damn SiS for blocking DRI support :/
[03:34] <brkamikaze> dr_willis: on gentoo you just needed to run java-config
[03:34] <brkamikaze> the rest you figured out through --help :P
[03:34] <isenburk> CheeseBurgerMan: <ubotu> said about the composite manager.. that's what i was following, then i got errors when trying to download compiz-kde.. Anything for Kubuntu separately ?
[03:34] <dr_willis> brkamikaze,  i googled. :P
[03:34] <dr_willis> plus this is like the 10th time ive seen it asked this week
[03:34] <DaSkreech> GO google
[03:35] <brkamikaze> "libgl1-mesa-swrast"
[03:35] <brkamikaze> I'll check if this is what I'm looking for :P
[03:35] <dr_willis> we answer the imporntant ones here!
[03:35] <dr_willis> :)
[03:35] <nnn0> :)
[03:36] <dr_willis> 'how do i change the icon on the start menu,,,, how do i intstall a theme... bla bla bla.....'
[03:36] <dr_willis> :)
[03:36] <pierreth> brkamikaze: OK, now it works!
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> isenburk: I haven't any idea what to do with Compiz/XGL. I just give ubotu's factoid. I think that there's a #kubuntu-xgl that may have people who can help.
[03:36] <brkamikaze> dr_willis: try to make a "!faq" script :)
[03:36] <ubuntu> someone knows how I can run a jar?
[03:36] <brkamikaze> ubuntu: java -jar <jarfile>
[03:36] <brkamikaze> at least on sun's implementation
[03:36] <ubuntu> thankx
[03:37] <pierreth> how can i switch from one language to another without kontrol?
[03:37] <zeppos> all
[03:37] <marcus__> hiya i got my usb wireless to work :)
[03:37] <zeppos> allo
[03:37] <brkamikaze> ubuntu: it works on GNU's too
[03:37] <brkamikaze> pierreth: first you need to install the aspell dictionary for the language you want
[03:37] <brkamikaze> Adept is your friend :)
[03:37] <harold> good for you Marcus_
[03:38] <isenburk> CheeseBurgerMan: thanks man, its empty anyway :P, no prob, ill try manage it myself
[03:38] <zeppos> how long is your wireless usb??? i would like to feel it in my horny wet as
[03:38] <Jucato> Adept is a fickle friend...
[03:38] <zeppos> s
[03:38] <pierreth> brkamikaze: I have them already
[03:38] <dr_willis> brkamikaze,  i used to have about 1000+ alias;s  - but then xchat made it a pain to have them an dchange them.
[03:38] <brkamikaze> Jucato: I meant it can show you the list of aspell dictionaries without much trouble :P
[03:38] <brkamikaze> dr_willis: :O
[03:38] <brkamikaze> I don't know how to script xchat
[03:38] <brkamikaze> I barely know how to script mIRC
[03:39] <brkamikaze> tried to learn eggdrop
[03:39] <brkamikaze> I just made a disaster script
[03:39] <dr_willis> brkamikaze,  scrupting mirc is not somthing to be proud of.
[03:39] <Jucato> brkamikaze: so can Konqueror, using "apt:/" and you don't have to launch Adept and enter your password :-D
[03:39] <brkamikaze> :P
[03:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> isenburk: It looks like there's a #ubuntu-xgl which could help. If you were the only one in #kubuntu-xgl then it doesn't officially exist. ;)
[03:39] <brkamikaze> dr_willis: sure
[03:39] <Administrator> My kubuntu crashed
[03:39] <brkamikaze> that's why I wanna learn to script eggdrop
[03:39] <brkamikaze> Jucato: :O
[03:39] <dr_willis> with xchat ya could make a shell script/command that looks up factoids then ya can just /exec -o factshow fact
[03:39] <dr_willis> :)
[03:39] <brkamikaze> thanks for the tip :)
[03:40] <marcus__> !restrictedformats
[03:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:40] <daddius> brikamikaze, which repository are you finding libxine-extracodecs?
[03:40] <brkamikaze> dr_willis: it just redirects stdout to the irc server?
[03:40] <Jucato> brkamikaze: sure! try it. it's a Kubuntu only thing though. No other distro (except MEPIS) has it
[03:40] <brkamikaze> daddius: I just looked at the faq
[03:40] <brkamikaze> but it is at multiverse
[03:40] <dr_willis> brkamikaze,   /exec -out ls   ---> prints ls output HERE.. (so dont do it) :P
[03:40] <robert_> anybody- help? (k)ubuntu won't progress past starting the kernel event manager - I had a power surge a short while ago, and now it won't start up :/
[03:41] <robert_> do note, that I recently installed/configured my system for use with ldap- if that makes any difference\
[03:41] <dr_willis> a short wile ago? ya been asking that since this morning.. :)
[03:41] <robert_> nah
[03:41] <Jucato> he's just copying/pasting his post
[03:41] <daddius> brkamikaze ok ok thanks
[03:41] <Jucato> because no one seems to be paying attention to him...
[03:41] <robert_> more like around 3-4hrs ago :P
[03:41] <Jucato> T_T
[03:41] <brkamikaze> Jucato: nice... too bad it can't install the package :/
[03:42] <Jucato> ehehe
[03:42] <robert_> a short while ago for me is < 4hrs
[03:42] <Jucato> (the "hehehe" was for brkamikaze)
[03:43] <robert_> heh
[03:44] <robert_> anyway
[03:44] <robert_> dr_willis: any ideas?
[03:45] <brkamikaze> Installing "libgl1-mesa-swrast" solved my problem :)
[03:45] <unix_infidel> wow, this is craptacular.
[03:45] <unix_infidel> my gpu is giving off more heat than the CPU.
[03:45] <brkamikaze> Are there any plans to include reiser4 support on Kubuntu?
[03:45] <brkamikaze> I wanna use reiser4 T_T
[03:45] <brkamikaze> I used it on LFS
[03:46] <waspius> can anyone help me work out how fluxbox works?
[03:46] <unix_infidel> waspius: as an actual question.
[03:46] <unix_infidel> ask*
[03:47] <unix_infidel> or ask in #fluxbox, they know how fluxbox works for the most part.
[03:47] <Jucato> brkamikaze: only when the kernel itself supports reiser4
[03:47] <brkamikaze> Jucato: there are working patches already
[03:47] <nnn0> !google fluxbox
[03:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google fluxbox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <nnn0> eheheh
[03:47] <Jucato> brkamikaze: yep. but still not "officially" accepted into the kernel
[03:47] <brkamikaze> I have no clue why they don't put it on the vanilla kernel
[03:48] <harold> Its all about politics
[03:48] <Jucato> yep
[03:48] <Jucato> ask the kernel devs...
[03:48] <actinic> Hi Jucato, looks like i'm going back to my old Folding team.
[03:48] <brkamikaze> why can't I install kubuntu at least on reiserfs?
[03:48] <brkamikaze> I can only choose ext{2,3} and {j,x}fs :/
[03:49] <soulrider> does anyone know where the .deb files from adepts cache are stored?
[03:49] <CheeseBurgerMan> brkamikaze: I would imagine that you could format it as reiserfs, then just install it without formatting.
[03:49] <brkamikaze> soulrider: updatedb; locate *.deb
[03:49] <brkamikaze> that should do the job :)
[03:50] <brkamikaze> Jucato: The strangest fact is that kubuntu includes reiser4tools
[03:51] <brkamikaze> why reiser4tools is included if I can't mount reiser4? :(
[03:51] <DShepherd> hey DaSkreech
[03:51] <brkamikaze> bye hda2
[03:52] <DaSkreech> Hi DShepherd
[03:52] <DaSkreech> What up?
[03:52] <harold> because the reierfs4 system is not quite ready and still working out the bugs..
[03:53] <robert_> so, dr_willis, what would cause my system to hang when starting the kernel event manager?
[03:53] <brkamikaze> CheeseBurgerMan: I have windows on /dev/hda1 and I wanna install kubuntu on /dev/hda2
[03:53] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: 1 more hour to edgy :-D
[03:53] <brkamikaze> how do I do that?
[03:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> brkamikaze: I've never actually used Ubiquity, but I can't imagine it would be hard to tell it which partition to use.
[03:54] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: the bleeding begins :)
[03:54] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: join me in kubuntu-offtopic
[03:54] <waspius> is there a program that deletes files that u dont need?ie after having uninstalled a program to delete its folders etc?
[03:54] <brkamikaze> I only keep windows because wine isn't quite ready and I don't have DRI :(
[03:54] <brkamikaze> I was trying to play a Dx5 game (Joint Strike Fighter) on Wine and the image runs smooth, but the sound was terrible
[03:55] <brkamikaze> I just don't know if it was alsa's fault or wine's fault
[03:56] <actinic> waspius: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140920
[03:57] <waspius> ok thanx
[04:02] <Q-adidas-> hi all
[04:02] <adidas> i need some help please :-(
[04:02] <brkamikaze> adidas: what's the problem?
[04:03] <adidas> i'm trying to install NVidia drivers
[04:04] <sid6000> adidas: yeah, I just went through that sort of thing myself
[04:05] <brkamikaze> adidas: I don't own a NVidia card (I'd really like to have one :)
[04:05] <actinic> adidas ...
[04:05] <actinic> !easyubuntu
[04:05] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:05] <brkamikaze> but I think "sudo apt-get nvidia-glx nvidia-settings" would help
[04:05] <sid6000> yeah it's like two lines
[04:05] <sid6000> but I mean
[04:05] <sid6000> is that all?
[04:05] <adidas> no it isn't just two lines
[04:05] <adidas> :(
[04:05] <sid6000> Did you just want to
[04:05] <sid6000> oh
[04:06] <sid6000> You need to configure stuff as well?
[04:06] <brkamikaze> sid6000: the NVidia control panel appears on the menu
[04:06] <brkamikaze> just remember to run "kbuildsycoca" just in case it doesn't appear after the install phase
[04:08] <brkamikaze> adidas: what's the exact problem you're having?
[04:08] <brkamikaze> you also have to remember to set your display driver on xorg.conf
[04:08] <sid6000> interesting
[04:08] <brkamikaze> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:09] <brkamikaze> if xserver-xorg still is the X server package name :P
[04:12] <marcus__> !xgl
[04:12] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:12] <adidas> I install my drivers , I modify my xorg.conf (nv=>nvidia) and when i reboot , the login screen doesnt appears (I only can go in the console with ctrl+alt+f1)
[04:13] <Agios> how did you install the drivers?
[04:13] <brkamikaze> adidas: go in the console
[04:13] <adidas> by console
[04:14] <sid6000> hmm, same thing happened to me
[04:14] <Agios> that doesn't tell me anything. did you install nvidia-glx?
[04:14] <Hawkwind> adidas: You installed the drivers from nvidia.com or the pre-built ubuntu packages ?
[04:14] <Agios> and did you run nvidia-glx-conf enable?
[04:14] <sid6000> I think my monitor didn't support the refresh rate in xorg at the time
[04:14] <adidas> I have followed the documentation of Ubuntu's website
[04:14] <brkamikaze> and paste on "http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/" the output of "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[04:14] <adidas> from nvidia
[04:15] <marcus__> !ati
[04:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:15] <Agios> apt-get install nvidia-glx
[04:15] <Agios> nvidia-glx-conf enable
[04:15] <newbie_1000> aptitude's better
[04:15] <Agios> ctrl-alt-bksp
[04:15] <Hawkwind> newbie_1000: That's just a matter of personal opinion really
[04:15] <Agios> newbie_1000: with a nick like that I'm not sure you are qualified to say what is better :)
[04:16] <newbie_1000> That's what I've used and that's what I've been told.
[04:16] <Hawkwind> newbie_1000: What *you* might like or think is better, doesn't mean the rest of the world will
[04:16] <Hawkwind> newbie_1000: Good thing about Linux is, it's all about choice
[04:16] <newbie_1000> As a matter of fact, with bot apt-get and aptitude, and Adept, I can't get newly installed apps to show in the KMenu
[04:17] <Agios> I have nothing against adept but the question is about nvidia drivers, not package management :)
[04:17] <brkamikaze> newbie_1000: run kbuildsycoca on the console
[04:17] <newbie_1000> Hawkwind. Choice is a good thing
[04:17] <newbie_1000> kbuildsyscoca?
[04:17] <Jucato> Adept is good, but quite fickle :-D
[04:17] <brkamikaze> newbie_1000: no
[04:17] <newbie_1000> after the install?
[04:17] <newbie_1000> kbuildsycoca
[04:17] <brkamikaze> it's kbuildsycoca indeed
[04:18] <sid6000> hmm
[04:18] <brkamikaze> after the install
[04:18] <newbie_1000> I just read it wrong. :$
[04:18] <newbie_1000> ok
[04:18] <newbie_1000> I'll try that.
[04:18] <sid6000> Guys, if you can, could you tell me what this means (when trying to run Amarok):
[04:18] <sid6000> "There was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE. The message returned by the system was: Could not read network connection list. Please check that the "dcopserver" program is running!
[04:18] <sid6000> "
[04:19] <brkamikaze> sid6000: you're logged on kde, aren't you?
[04:19] <Agios> it means it souldn't connect to the dcopserver
[04:19] <sid6000> At the time of the error, yes.
[04:19] <Agios> couldn't
[04:19] <sid6000> But no, not right now.
[04:20] <sid6000> Should I be?
[04:21] <Agios> anyway, attempting to install the nvidia drivers from the nvidia site on a ubuntu system is futile unless you have previously installed nvidia-glx.
[04:22] <ClayG> is there anything remotley like cooledit?
[04:22] <sid6000> brkamikaze: Short answer, no - I'm currently in gnome.
[04:23] <nnn0> ClayG: not that i have seen
[04:24] <nnn0> ClayG: have you tried ReZound ?
[04:25] <ClayG> I have not but will
[04:25] <ClayG> is it in the repos?>
[04:25] <nnn0> donno
[04:25] <brkamikaze_> I'll reboot to the installed kubuntu box
[04:25] <brkamikaze_> just to make sure it's working :)
[04:25] <nnn0> http://rezound.sourceforge.net/
[04:25] <brkamikaze_> goodnight to everybody
[04:25] <ClayG> downloading it now
[04:25] <daddius> goodnight
[04:26] <ClayG> do you know if it can handle mp3s by default
[04:26] <ClayG> ?
[04:26] <nnn0> donno
[04:26] <ClayG> or does it only handle .rzd (rezound) files
[04:26] <xenoterracide> trying to add a network printer I changed the default subnet to scan to my private internal subnet 192.168.* it says that subnet does not correspond to my currtent subnet of 127.0.1.* how do I change my current subnet so that it is correct?
[04:27] <waspius> how can i check what programs are at startup?
[04:28] <Hawkwind> waspius: Look in your ~/.kde/AutoStart file
[04:28] <waspius> Hawkwind: thanx
[04:28] <Jucato> and in /usr/share/autostart (system autostart, applies to all users)
[04:29] <nnn0> ClayG: i know http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ can do mp3, so i guess ReZound should too
[04:29] <nnn0> ClayG: it does, it's right on their page
[04:30] <nnn0> ogg and flac to
[04:30] <nnn0> too even
[04:30] <ClayG> Which of the two have you used to edit mp3s?
[04:31] <nnn0> none :D
[04:31] <nnn0> i just checked the specs
[04:31] <waspius> Jucato: in usr/share/autostart do i just delete  a file from there?
[04:31] <sid6000> Heh
[04:31] <sid6000> like I said
[04:31] <DaSkreech> Whats a good Video editor?
[04:31] <sid6000> I just ended up using CoolEdit in VMWare player, myself.
[04:32] <nnn0> ehehe
[04:32] <Jucato> waspius: I wouldn't recommend removing stuff from there unless you absolutely know that you don't need it
[04:32] <nnn0> me too :D
[04:32] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: avidemux ?
[04:32] <nnn0> not cooledit, but audition (same thing)
[04:32] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Does that support mkv?
[04:32] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: No idea to be honest
[04:32] <waspius> Jucato: i want to remove kbluetooth and maybe kpowersave
[04:33] <nnn0> adobe bought cooledit
[04:33] <sid6000> aye
[04:33] <Jucato> waspius: those wouldn't be found in the autostart folders
[04:33] <waspius> Jucato: well i found them there
[04:33] <waspius> Jucato: in the place u said../usr/share ...
[04:34] <Jucato> hm.. strange... but I'm not sure if removing them from the autostart folder is the proper way, because IIRC, kbluetooth and kpowersave are also services...
[04:34] <waspius> ok
[04:35] <Hawkwind> waspius: Don't delete them.  Just move them to a backup place and see if moving them breaks anything.  If so, then move them back
[04:35] <derek_> Hi
[04:35] <Jucato> Hawkwind: or better yet, hide them... put a '.' at the start of their name :-D
[04:35] <waspius> Hawkwind: ok...will do...ok..for some reason kde applications are running slowly is there a way to check why?
[04:35] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Same thing basically :P
[04:36] <mcrandello> Hi I need a little help
[04:36] <mcrandello> does anyone know what I need to put into the menu.list to disable io_apic?
[04:36] <Jucato> Hawkwind: I just try to hide them, coz the last time I moved some things, I either forgot where I moved them, or where I moved them from...
[04:36] <mcrandello> erm menu.lst
[04:36] <mcrandello> or if that's even where it goes?
[04:37] <Kiongku_> het guys.. how do u make use of keep?
[04:37] <Jucato> whoa.. Kiongku_'s still here...
[04:38] <derek_> I need alot of help but will settle for a little right now
[04:38] <ClayG> nnn0: thanks alot man, rezound is EXACLTY what I wanted
[04:38] <ClayG> I appreciate that
[04:38] <Kiongku_> Jucato: lol
[04:38] <Kiongku_> Jucato: how do u backup?
[04:39] <Jucato> Kiongku_: I burn on CD's :-D
[04:39] <mcrandello> I just need to make sure that io_apic isn't loaded so I can use fglrx on the laptop here
[04:39] <Jucato> I haven't tried any of the backup software at all....
[04:39] <Kiongku_> Jucato: ??
[04:39] <derek_> WHere can I find the software to interface my daughters cell phone
[04:39] <Jucato> Kiongku_: I just burn my documents/data on CD's. that's the way I do backups
[04:40] <Kiongku_> Jucato: XD .. ok
[04:41] <adida> hi
[04:41] <Kiongku_> derek_: ehrm no idea.. btw u forget to even tell the model of the cell phone so that others might know how to help u
[04:43] <adida> ok so i try again to install my nvidia drivers and the problem is that when i have to restart X server, Kubuntu Loading blue screen stay and the progressbar is at 0% and nothing happens
[04:43] <adida> i don't have the login screen which appears
[04:43] <derek_> sony ericsson w600
[04:44] <adida> and i must to go in the console (ctrl alt F1) and change my xorg.conf for my backup and reboot my computer
[04:44] <adida> so i think the problem is from my xorg.conf
[04:44] <adida> but........
[04:45] <mcrandello> would I just put "noapic" after the lines that say "boot" in the debian automagic kernels list thing in menu.lst?
[04:45] <nnn0> ClayG: np
[04:45] <Kiongku_> derek_: got the usb cable?
[04:46] <derek_> yup
[04:47] <Kiongku_> derek_: did u connect it with ur phone at the saem time?
[04:48] <Qix> Hi, I installed kubuntu-desktop over my unbuntu install but it replaced my bootup splash; how can i get the default splash back ?
[04:49] <derek_> kiongku thanks I figured it out...
[04:50] <Kiongku_> Qix: hmm there is a good howto of upslash on the net
[04:50] <Kiongku_> try google it
[04:51] <Hawkwind> !usplash
[04:51] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[04:51] <Kiongku_> oh
[04:51] <Hawkwind> Or read that one :P
[04:51] <Kiongku_> there
[04:51] <Kiongku_> yah yah
[04:51] <mcrandello> no kuser?
[04:51] <Kiongku_> Hawkwind: how do u backup ur files?
[04:51] <Jucato> howto replace, there is. howto make a new USplash theme... quite difficult...
[04:51] <Kiongku_> Hawkwind: i'm looking for a good way to backup
[04:52] <Hawkwind> Kiongku_: I have a custom written bash script that just simply uses tar
[04:52] <Kiongku_> Jucato: i dunt know how to get a damn picture that usplash likes so i stick to the default one :p
[04:52] <Jucato> Kiongku_: yeah... too bad, I really want to change it...
[04:52] <Kiongku_> Hawkwind: can i get the script?
[04:52] <mcrandello> I had a real nice one liner that would dd a given partition then pipe it through the zip command breaking it up into 700 megabyte chunks so I could put them on CD
[04:53] <Kiongku_> Jucato: yay FLAC works with amarok.. only after patching the xinelib though
[04:53] <Kiongku_> Jucato: bah amarok 1.4.1 ( ' ')
[04:53] <Jucato> Kiongku_: that's exactly how others did it ^_^
[04:53] <Jucato> in Amarok 1.4.1
[04:53] <Kiongku_> Jucato: lol.. well nvm.. i'll wait a bit
[04:53] <[FaBiTo] > hi
[04:54] <Kiongku_> Hawkwind: still here ._.?
[04:54] <[FaBiTo] > may i ask a question? does anyone know where do i get "easy kubuntu"?
[04:56] <nnn0> google ?
[04:56] <[FaBiTo] > jua
[04:56] <[FaBiTo] > i tried google
[04:56] <nnn0> donno if it works on dapper though
[04:56] <Gatton> i thought easy kubuntu was no longer in development?
[04:56] <Jucato> [FaBiTo] : errr don't you mean EasyUbuntu?
[04:57] <Jucato> EasyUbuntu works on Kubuntu also
[04:57] <Jucato> !easyubuntu
[04:57] <[FaBiTo] > no no no, easy kubuntu
[04:57] <[FaBiTo] > works on kubuntu?
[04:57] <Jucato> yes
[04:57] <Jucato> hold on, I'll look for the link
[04:57] <[FaBiTo] > is the same thing, you mean? sorry for my english
[04:58] <[FaBiTo] > i tried with ubuntu, but now i have kubuntu
[04:58] <[FaBiTo] > and thought that easy ubuntu did not work with kubuntu
[04:58] <Jucato> [FaBiTo] : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190535
[04:58] <Jucato> it says there: support Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu
[04:58] <Jucato> supports*
[04:59] <Gatton> and Maskaev wins again
[04:59] <[FaBiTo] > ok. thanks
[04:59] <Kiongku_> Jucato: what office suite are u using?
[05:00] <[FaBiTo] > thanks jucato
[05:00] <Jucato> Kiongku_: to be honest? I haven't been using office suites that much lately
[05:00] <vursitis> does anyone in here know of a remote monitering program besides ssh? i need to moniter employees computers while on a buisness trip.
[05:00] <Jucato> Kiongku_: but I prefer to use KOffice
[05:00] <vursitis> my employees*
[05:00] <Kiongku_> Jucato: what do u own then XD
[05:01] <Kiongku_> vursitis: O_O wow great businessman
[05:01] <Kiongku_> vursitis: sorry no idea..
[05:01] <vursitis> I have a few employees that are... cronic porn addicts you might say
[05:01] <nnn0> what about hasciicam :D
[05:01] <cozomo> vursitis: use subseven
[05:01] <vursitis> i honestly dont mind if they vist those sights i just want them working while i am gone
[05:01] <nnn0> ehehe
[05:02] <vursitis> ugh... no
[05:02] <Kiongku_> vursitis: lol.. they miss a proper love life..
[05:02] <vursitis> i hate that program
[05:02] <Kiongku_> Jucato: yo.. u did not fal asleep did u?
[05:02] <Jucato> yes I did... for 2 hours...
[05:02] <vursitis> well... do they make a version of subseven for linux?
[05:02] <ballchalk> dr_willis thank you
[05:03] <Jucato> Kiongku_: to answer your question I both have OO.o and KOffice. I personally prefer KOffice except for 3 problems
[05:03] <cozomo> vursitis: no, I was just messing, sorry I dont know
[05:03] <vursitis> and will it work crossplatform, because some of my employees use windows
[05:03] <Kiongku_> Jucato: yah?
[05:03] <Hawkwind> Kiongku_: Here's one:  http://seerofsouls.com/BashScripts/mybackup
[05:04] <Kiongku_> Hawkwind: ok i'll see it
[05:04] <Jucato> 1) KWord doesn't save/export to MS Word format; 2) KWord and OO.o Writer doesn't seem to play nice with each other with numbering/bullets, even when using ODF; 3) There's no KOffice on Windows.
[05:04] <Hawkwind> Kiongku_: http://seerofsouls.com/BashScripts/MyNewBackup.sh
[05:04] <Hawkwind> Kiongku_: That's another
[05:04] <Hawkwind> Kiongku_: http://SeerOfSouls.com/BashScripts
[05:04] <Jucato> #3 would be moot if #2 was solved
[05:04] <Hawkwind> Kiongku_: You can see all sorts of scripts there
[05:05] <Kiongku_> Hawkwind: thx.. btw Hawkwind whats in ur storage and misc dir?
[05:06] <Hawkwind> Kiongku_: All sorts of things.  Movies and files mostly
[05:06] <Kiongku_> Jucato: hehe ok
[05:06] <Kiongku_> Hawkwind: its not a default dir.. seems u made it?
[05:06] <Hawkwind> Kiongku_: They are 2 of my 13 partitions :P
[05:07] <kirke> hello
[05:07] <Kiongku_> Hawkwind: hehe nice.. ehrm about the backup.. how compact can it be as compared to the original one
[05:07] <kirke> Somebody can help me?
[05:08] <mcrandello> maybe
[05:08] <vursitis> maybe
[05:08] <Kiongku_> Hawkwind: and u get the backup by untar it into the normal folders i presume :p
[05:08] <Kiongku_> lol
[05:08] <Kiongku_> both of u
[05:08] <Jucato> maybe... if you could tell us what the problem is...
[05:08] <mcrandello> bench fees are 30$, 75 hourly though...
[05:09] <Kiongku_> kirke: u say ur prob.. we decide if u are a lost cause or not
[05:09] <Jucato> and if we knew the solutin...
[05:09] <mcrandello> 100 if you want to help ;P
[05:09] <Jucato> solution*
[05:09] <Jucato> lol
[05:09] <Jucato> kirke: ignore the prices...
[05:09] <Jucato> they're too high
[05:09] <vursitis> what seems to be the problem kirke?
[05:09] <Kiongku_> kirke: ya.. charge it to my a/c rather than him :D
[05:09] <Gatton> do you accept paypal? ;)
[05:09] <Jucato> mine is only US$ 10/hour
[05:09] <Kiongku_> kirke: kidding
[05:09] <mcrandello> 2,000 if it's a DEC
[05:10] <Jucato> um.. kirke are you still with us?
[05:10] <Kiongku_> we went out of subject again
[05:10] <Jucato> lol
[05:11] <Kiongku> bleh.. it seems that backup by script is the best way
[05:11] <ballchalk> help
[05:11] <vursitis> with?
[05:11] <Kiongku> Jucato: bah dunt acre about the system.. i'll just keep my media files flowing to windows and no big deal..
[05:11] <ballchalk> all my downloads in frostwire tells me need more sources
[05:11] <ballchalk> what can be blocking me?
[05:12] <draik> the other people that don't want you to have their files
[05:12] <Kiongku> ballchalk: doh.. no sources simply
[05:12] <[FaBiTo] > thanks a lot. see another day...
[05:12] <Jucato> lol
[05:12] <ballchalk> hnn
[05:12] <vursitis> what firewall are you using i have had alot of problems with firestarter and downloads in the past
[05:12] <Kiongku> ballchalk: things by peer to peer are not stable
[05:13] <Jucato> but I find torrents to be the most stable form of P2P...
[05:13] <vursitis> although kiongku is right, no sources... is a huge possibility...
[05:14] <Kiongku> Jucato: yah.. much much more ppl
[05:14] <Kiongku> bleh i need something to feed my ktorrent..
[05:14] <Kiongku> got any insteresting dls :D
[05:15] <vursitis> v for vendetta was a good movie?
[05:15] <vursitis> if you dont have it
[05:15] <Kiongku> vursitis nice i'll check out
[05:15] <vursitis> ok
[05:15] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: If it's just text files you are backing up, they compress big time
[05:15] <vursitis> or underworld evolution that was good to
[05:16] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: ah..
[05:16] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: I have a /backups partition where I keep all my backups.  If I need something, I untar a certain backup and pull out what I need
[05:16] <Kiongku> Jucato: bleh.. i have a strange feeling that the sound quality of the 1.4.1 is worst than 1.4.2
[05:16] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: The second backup script I showed you has a line in it that allows you to keep so many days of backups.  I keep 30 days of backups currently
[05:16] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: nice.. i think i will edit the script to suite my need.. i'll do it later when the system gets stable =)
[05:17] <Jucato> Kiongku: AFAIK, Amarok has nothing to do with sound quality
[05:17] <Jucato> it's xine's job
[05:17] <Jucato> or whatever engine you're using
[05:17] <vursitis> o and does anyone know if amule is a decent program?
[05:18] <Hawkwind> vursitis: Depends on what you consider 'decent'
[05:18] <Kiongku> Jucato: .. doh then the default xine.. seems bah :p
[05:18] <Hawkwind> vursitis: I prefer to get my mp3 files from torrent sites or from certain IRC networks
[05:18] <Jucato> ^_^
[05:18] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: cool.. whats the IRC networks and torrent sites =)))
[05:18] <Kiongku> may be i could feed something in my ktorrent at last
[05:18] <vursitis> well so do i but this is for my roomate, i fixed his computer... (installed liniux and got rid of windows) and he loves everything about it exept ktorrent... hes used to limewire
[05:19] <Kiongku> vursitis: lol.. i use it in my win partition.. but i'm not booting in win these last days :p
[05:19] <tk> vursitis: i use azureus for torrents
[05:19] <vursitis> i havent booted from my win partition for about.... ooooo 3 weeks now
[05:20] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: So Should I come for you tomorrow?
[05:20] <RawSushi> umm..is it possible to theme KDE in kubuntu?
[05:20] <Kiongku> vursitis: hehe
[05:20] <cracker017> Hawkwind: Would these be a list of Linux compatible wireless cards? http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[05:20] <Jucato> RawSushi: yep.
[05:20] <Kiongku> RawSushi: yah
[05:20] <Jucato> RawSushi: but "theme" refers to a lot of things in KDE
[05:21] <RawSushi> I do not see a place to load ANY themes.
[05:21] <Jucato> let me get a link to a short explanation...
[05:21] <Jucato> if you don't mind waiting
[05:21] <RawSushi> k
[05:21] <vursitis> i use windows for, well nothing at this point... i had to use it for a class i was taking that used maya they gave us the program, well i was looking for a an alternative to maya that was supported by linux.... i think there are 2 people in the world that know how to use blender...
[05:21] <RawSushi> nah go ahead
[05:21] <Kiongku> RawSushi: putting a sushi as background is theming too :D
[05:21] <mcrandello> vursitis, blender isn't that bad
[05:21] <Jucato> RawSushi: here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[05:22] <RawSushi> I want to install some .kth files from kde-look
[05:22] <RawSushi> k
[05:22] <mcrandello> you just have to get used to the lack of any form of intuitive gui is all :)
[05:22] <vursitis> and that was the only 3d animation program i found for linux, so i was forced to install windows... it was a sad day in hell
[05:22] <samjnaa> hey people, would it be practical to provide a supplemental cd which contains all the additional packages from the dvd *minus* the i18n packages and minus the -dev packages? i believe they only take much space on the dvd. for localising, people can downloading files for their language. currently in the dvd, we have to download 60 localization files to use two or three of them. not much meaning imho.
[05:22] <vursitis> lol, yeah hence the reason i said i think there are 2 people that know how to use blender...
[05:22] <samjnaa> providing a supplemental cd would make it easy for people who have slow or no internet connection or no dvd drive to install a greater number of packages. or we could have a jigdo-based utiliity which will download any custom selection of packages and make a cd image out of it? is that possible?
[05:22] <Jucato> vursitis: have you seen Elephants Dream?
[05:22] <vursitis> no, what is that?
[05:23] <Jucato> It's a 10 minute animation bade using BLender and whole load of open source stuff
[05:23] <Jucato> have you also been to the blender forums?
[05:23] <mcrandello> vursitis, you can always use wine <=20050112 and certain windows 3d apps
[05:23] <Jucato> coz I'm pretty sure there are more than 2 people there
[05:23] <vursitis> i was thinking about that, but ive heard when it comes to the rendering, wine basicaly gives you the middle finger
[05:24] <mcrandello> it's not so fast, no
[05:24] <vursitis> and i mean i would like to learn how to use blender because i have seen some pretty kewl stuff on it, but... i have no idea how to use it, nor the time to learn
[05:24] <soulrider> hi everyone
[05:24] <Kiongku> lalala
[05:25] <Jucato> Blender's UI really needs a bit of work. But I think it was built with  a principle of sorts: "one hand on the mouse, one hand on the keyboard"
[05:25] <soulrider> !blender
[05:25] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[05:25] <mcrandello> it's a matter of jumping right in, I managed to get it in about a month or so of use during the slow times at work
[05:25] <Jucato> http://orange.blender.org/
[05:25] <soulrider> cool, ive allways wanted to learn 3d
[05:25] <Kiongku> actinic yo?
[05:25] <soulrider> i made some maps for quake 3 engine games before, but no modeling
[05:25] <mcrandello> the main trick with it is to force yourself to learn all the keyboard shortcuts
[05:25] <vursitis> that was helpfull...
[05:26] <Jucato> I think the only reason why most of us don't like the Blender UI is because we have been so used to Maya or 3DS Max
[05:26] <vursitis> yeah, i guess ill just have to kinda learn as i go...
[05:26] <mcrandello> and besides, I thought maya had a linux version
[05:26] <vursitis> yes they do, but our professor didn't have that version and im not willing to spend 700 dollars on it
[05:26] <mcrandello> not talking about ayam either (shudder)
[05:26] <soulrider> mcrandello: it doesnt? :/
[05:26] <Jucato> But Blender's UI is extremely customizable
[05:26] <soulrider> vursitis: bittorrent? :/
[05:27] <vursitis> hm... sadly to say i never thought about that...
[05:27] <mcrandello> soulrider, http://www.alias.com/eng/support/maya/qualified_hardware/QUAL/maya_60_linux.html
[05:27] <Jucato> doesn't Maya have a free/student edition for Linux?
[05:27] <vursitis> someone Eslap me
[05:27] <mcrandello> yeah that I don't know
[05:27] <actinic> Kiongku, hey
[05:28] <soulrider> vursitis: really?
[05:28] <Jucato> Konqueror question: how can I make/force Konqueror to use a web site's font color/settings rather than KDE's font settings?
[05:28] <mcrandello> there is also k3d but it's a bit immature
[05:28] <vursitis> not sure, never really looked that up, i guess ill have to keep doing some research, but for right now ill just use the maya that they gave us, i still do have a windows partition that i run it from
[05:28] <Jucato> don't let the name fool yah. K3D is GNOME :-D
[05:28] <vursitis> use firefox?
[05:29] <Jucato> vursitis: lol ehehe
[05:29] <mcrandello> Jucato, heh yeah
[05:29] <Jucato> Kreative 3D is the KDE project
[05:29] <Jucato> I think I've seen some GNOME apps lately that have "K" names...
[05:29] <Jucato> I just forgot the others
[05:30] <mcrandello> they're trying to sneak onto our systems
[05:31] <Kiongku> actinic: 97% folding done
[05:31] <Jucato> lol
[05:31] <vursitis> i tried ubuntu, but i couldnt get used to the interface... i absolutaly hated it, mostly the annoying little feature of having to manualy redirect your konsole
[05:31] <larson9999> sneak on to our systems?  i install gnome and kde apps no matter which wm i use
[05:32] <Jucato> he meant the "naming"
[05:32] <RawSushi> okay, that's nice.  now I know all the different themes
[05:32] <RawSushi> but it does not tell me how to install them
[05:32] <RawSushi> I simply want to download some .kth files and install them.
[05:32] <actinic> Kiongku, good to hear!  I was resigned to going it alone.
[05:33] <larson9999> vursitis:  manually redirect your konsole?  what does that mean?
[05:33] <Jucato> RawSushi: oh I forgot about the KTH (KDE THeme)
[05:33] <actinic> I've been disappointed but maybe more like you will come thru
[05:33] <Kiongku> actinic: hehe ._.
[05:33] <RawSushi> :)
[05:33] <Kiongku> actinic: btw.. how much time it took u to fold one unit
[05:33] <RawSushi> Jucato: any way to do it?
[05:34] <RawSushi> Seems impossible.
[05:34] <RawSushi> I want to use something that's not default.
[05:34] <Jucato> RawSushi: basically a .kth is just a file that points to the individual themes/settings. a  sort of configuration file that says this will be the color scheme, this will be the window decoration, etc.
[05:34] <actinic> Kiongku, they're all over the board ... anywhere from 6 hrs to 60 hrs!
[05:34] <RawSushi> I see nowhere I could load the file.
[05:34] <actinic> you?
[05:34] <Jucato> What this means is that if you use a .kth file, you still need to download the other parts/themes that it points to
[05:35] <Kiongku> actinic: almost 24 hrs running now
[05:35] <Jucato> RawSushi: you can install .kth this way. go to K Menu > System > KControl
[05:35] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: i guess you can call first
[05:35] <Jucato> DShepherd: hm... wrong channel?
[05:35] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Ok I'll do that
[05:35] <Jucato> ehehe
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Nope
[05:35] <Jucato> ^_^
[05:36] <DaSkreech> Just late response
[05:36] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: lata man
[05:36] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[05:36] <DaSkreech> zzZZZzz
[05:36] <actinic> Kiongku, you can see my recent submissions: http://fahstats.com/usum.php?u=856811
[05:36] <Gatton> Question: is there a tool in KDE to assign multimedia keys like volume up/down? I was able to do this in Gnome and wondered if there was a KDE equivalent (or can I use the Gnome tool in KDE to do this?)
[05:36] <actinic> i've been busy :)
[05:37] <Jucato> ehehe
[05:37] <RawSushi> ah!  thanks a bunch
[05:37] <RawSushi> but for some reason, kcontrol wasn't in the menu
[05:37] <RawSushi> unless I didn't look hard enough ;)
[05:37] <Jucato> RawSushi: hm... yah I think it isn't. sorry bout that
[05:38] <RawSushi> that's alright..thanks a lot
[05:38] <Jucato> RawSushi: Press Alt+F2 then type in 'kcontrol' (no quotes)
[05:38] <Jucato> RawSushi: then once KControl appears, go to the Appearance & Themes section and then Theme Manager
[05:38] <soulrider> whast that folding@home thing?
[05:39] <RawSushi> then install new theme, then select the .kth file?
[05:39] <Jucato> yep
[05:39] <RawSushi> man@!!
[05:39] <DaSkreech> actinic: That's you :)
[05:39] <RawSushi> for some reason, that's not doing anything
[05:39] <RawSushi> wonder what I'm doing wrong
[05:39] <RawSushi> or I wonder what's wrong with KDE
[05:39] <Jucato> RawSushi: what do you mean by "not doing anything"?
[05:39] <RawSushi> I click on X-Light and apply
[05:39] <RawSushi> doesn't work
[05:40] <soulrider> actinic: whats folding @ home ?
[05:40] <Jucato> RawSushi: wait, I'll look for the theme
[05:40] <RawSushi> X-Light is the name of the theme, btw
[05:40] <RawSushi> I've tried it with MANY different themes
[05:40] <RawSushi> not one of them worked
[05:41] <Jucato> RawSushi: I told you already, a KTH will only work if the other themes that it's pointing to are already installed
[05:41] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[05:41] <soulrider> larson9999: i second that
[05:41] <RawSushi> but that was the only file it had for download.
[05:41] <Jucato> larson9999: could I third?
[05:41] <Jucato> RawSushi: is this the one? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=36134&PHPSESSID=ec6ea383e157eb81821fd345a4e9ee08
[05:41] <vursitis> yes it does
[05:41] <Hawkwind> Jucato: For $20 you can :P
[05:42] <Kiongku> actinic: it updates only after u finish 1 WU?
[05:42] <Jucato> what's with these fees?!?!? are we charging now? lol
[05:42] <larson9999> it's OSS you can concurr or not.  it's the same price
[05:42] <RawSushi> yeah
[05:42] <RawSushi> it is
[05:42] <Jucato> RawSushi: I think you didn't read the link I gave to you clearly: #3 item
[05:42] <Jucato> wait
[05:43] <Jucato> hehe I misread
[05:43] <Jucato> lol
[05:43] <Jucato> I really should get some sleep
[05:43] <RawSushi> hehe me too :)
[05:43] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: yo ur back?.. what are the good irc and torrent sites for mp3 :)).. if u dunt mind
[05:43] <Kiongku> Jucato: lalala go sleep.. almost noon at ur place :D
[05:43] <Jucato> Kiongku: yeah...
[05:44] <Jucato> then I have commitments to go to at 2pm then at 4pm...
[05:44] <Kiongku> lol
[05:44] <actinic> Kiongku: correct, once it finishes it's uploaded, then another downloads
[05:44] <vursitis> ok i hate amule...
[05:44] <Jucato> RawSushi: let me try this out
[05:44] <vursitis> which means my roomate will probaly love it
[05:46] <Kiongku> vursitis: lol
[05:46] <actinic> Kiongku, lol my points alone have moved the Kubuntu team up some 700 spots :)
[05:46] <Kiongku> actinic: never shut down pc?
[05:47] <actinic> Kiongku, i've got a few running 24/7 and uptimes approaching 30 days
[05:47] <soulrider> Kiongku: i never turn it off
[05:47] <actinic> overclocked :)
[05:47] <Kiongku> lol
[05:48] <soulrider> actinic: whast that folding @ home thing ?
[05:48] <Jucato> RawSushi: for all it's worth, I can't seem to install it too
[05:48] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: irc.undernet.org and join #Mp3_Collective  and I can invite you to a private torrent site if you are into movies.  They have quite a bit of music too
[05:48] <vursitis> ssh -X stoic@192.168.1.104
[05:48] <vursitis> woops...
[05:48] <Kiongku> soulrider: if ur pc stays up a lot with nothing to do.. u can do that to make it useful
[05:48] <vursitis> sorry that was supposed to be in the terminal
[05:49] <Jucato> RawSushi: this is a poorly done, poorly documented KTH file
[05:49] <actinic> soulrider: never though you'd ask :)  http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7868.0
[05:49] <soulrider> my pc is allways on :P
[05:49] <Kiongku> soulrider: then join the team X)
[05:49] <bouncing> Can anyone tell me how to make my laptop use an external monitor at a different resolution w/ kubuntu?
[05:49] <Kiongku> all pcs with high up times should participate
[05:49] <actinic> soulrider, great .. please join us
[05:49] <Jucato> RawSushi: it's also wrongly categorized
[05:49] <vursitis> arnt most moniters external?
[05:49] <actinic> lord knows we need the help, lol :)
[05:50] <Jucato> RawSushi: if you want .KTH themes, you go to KDE-Look > Themes/Styles > Them- Manager
[05:50] <Kiongku> i'm trying to get a friend of mien to join too.. his pc just stay up all day without any motives.. he even let winamp (now amarok) play his playlist while his gone
[05:50] <vursitis> just go to your x11.org file and reconfigure the moniter section
[05:50] <soulrider> ill join ya
[05:50] <actinic> GRRREEEEAAAATTTT!
[05:51] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: ??
[05:51] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: server :D?
[05:51] <actinic> hint hint
[05:51] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: It's only at 64 due to changing the entire house around 64 days ago
[05:51] <Hawkwind> Heh
[05:51] <Kiongku> lala folds folds folds @_@
[05:52] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: btw.. did u heard my request?
[05:52] <vursitis> guess not...
[05:52] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: Which one ?
[05:52] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: wondering what good irc channels and torrents places u found for mp3 :P
[05:52] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: Oh yeah, I replied to that :P
[05:52] <vursitis> does anyone in here know of a program that will allow me to moniter how much bandwith each person uses?
[05:52] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: irc.undernet.org and join #Mp3_Collective  and I can invite you to a private torrent site if you are into movies.  They have quite a bit of music too
[05:52] <soulrider> Hawkwind: id be intereted int he movie site :P
[05:53] <Hawkwind> vursitis: wireshark ?
[05:53] <Kiongku> hmm wait i set up that server in konver
[05:53] <vursitis> thankyou
[05:53] <soulrider> i can invite you to toher sites if you want
[05:53] <kakalto> is anyone else just having issues with KDE instability under kubuntu dapper?
[05:53] <Hawkwind> soulrider: What sites ?
[05:53] <soulrider> ill PM you
[05:53] <Hawkwind> soulrider: As in, what sites you have invites to ?
[05:53] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Ok
[05:53] <Jucato> kakalto: honestly? I find KDE much more stable in Dapper than in Breezy
[05:53] <Jucato> But KDE 3.5.4 is less stable...
[05:54] <kakalto> I used gentoo before dapper...
[05:54] <kakalto> but I just have random crashes from kde apps
[05:54] <kakalto> most notably, amarok and konqueror
[05:54] <Jucato> kakalto: gentoo will definiely be more stable, coz your compiling it
[05:54] <waggle7622frack> Is 3.5.4 less stable? Has anyone used it?
[05:54] <Jucato> definitely*
[05:55] <kakalto> why would my compiling it myself change how stable it is?
[05:55] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: i'm in undernet
[05:55] <Jucato> kakalto: because the programs/apps/etc will be customized for your system
[05:55] <kakalto> waggle7622frack: I believe I'm using it, and I'm having problems. Does that mean 3.5.4 is unstable? I dunno, you tell me
[05:55] <waggle7622frack> I am using it and having networking issues.
[05:56] <Jucato> KDE 3.5.4 in Kubuntu (only in Kubuntu, I think) has some bugs
[05:56] <waggle7622frack> just since automatix upgrading it
[05:56] <larson9999> the only thing i've noticed in kde 3.5.4 other than that repeated wizard thing is that the 'working bar' extends beyond the boundaries
[05:56] <vursitis> im finding no package named wireshark Hawkwind
[05:56] <Hawkwind> vursitis: ethereal
[05:56] <vursitis> ok
[05:56] <kakalto> Jucato: I just don't quite understand what would make a program more stable, if it's compiled more specially for my architeture
[05:56] <Jucato> larson9999: some other bugs: System Settings crashing when you click on the Command Shortcuts in Keyboard shortcuts
[05:56] <kakalto> or, sub-architeture
[05:56] <ubuntu> Hi all...
[05:56] <kakalto> Hi, ubuntu
[05:56] <ubuntu> need a help with pppoe
[05:57] <Kiongku> haha fast channel
[05:57] <Jucato> kakalto: because it will be tailor made for your system. .deb packages are made for general usage.
[05:57] <Kiongku> larson9999: Jucatos right
[05:58] <Kiongku> larson9999: did u resolve the wizard thing?
[05:58] <Jucato> another KDE 3.5.4 bug: HAL and the media:/ kio slave
[05:58] <Kiongku> lol
[05:58] <larson9999> Kiongku: yeah, i think you gave me the site
[05:58] <Kiongku> thats urs :D
[05:58] <kakalto> Jucato, ah, but instability can often occur when you compile too specifically for your system
[05:58] <Jucato> compiling is a too edged sword... ^_^
[05:58] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: ur not in undernet :P
[05:58] <larson9999> Jucato: the media works fine as far as i can tell here.  things mount the way i expect
[05:59] <Kiongku> <--- noob compiler who messes with kubuntu and finally someitmes have to come back to default
[05:59] <Jucato> larson9999: media:/ will not show partitions that are not mounted at boot/startup
[05:59] <larson9999> Jucato: if i turn on my usb drive after kde is started, it mounts.
[06:00] <ubuntu> is there any problem with the Kubuntu 3.54? It seems to mess up with the pppoeconf
[06:00] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: I'm in a private channel there that has over 19,000 users in it that are all sharing :P
[06:00] <Jucato> larson9999: a USB drive isn't a partition, eh?
[06:00] <Jucato> probably happens only with HDD's
[06:00] <Jucato> internal HDD's
[06:00] <kakalto> hmm
[06:00] <larson9999> Jucato: sure it is.  in this case that drive has 3 or 5.
[06:01] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: where ._.?
[06:01] <Kiongku> ><
[06:01] <Jucato> but still probably considered removable media?
[06:01] <larson9999> Jucato: oh, well all my internal stuff is mounted at startup
[06:01] <ubuntu> problem is that I need to type in the sudo pppoeconf every time in the terminal to access the net
[06:01] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: It's invite only.  You have to share files for well over a year before you get invited
[06:01] <ubuntu>  it doest load up at boot time
[06:01] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: :( oh ><...
[06:02] <ubuntu> with the Live Cd net works like charm
[06:02] <Jucato> ubuntu: in pppoeconf, you will be asked whether you want the connection to be started at boot time
[06:02] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: i have a bad upload connection only 128 kb/s up
[06:02] <waggle7622frack> Ok wish me luck, I am going to try to revert back to previous KDE from automatix. If that doesn't work it's back to previous non k7 kernel and try again.
[06:02] <ubuntu> I tried it...
[06:02] <Kiongku> waggle7622frack: luck charm
[06:02] <Jucato> waggle7622frack: why? what happened?
[06:02] <ubuntu> The net works...but the hassle is that after about 5 minutes the same terminal has to be loaded up
[06:03] <ubuntu> with the live Cd there is no such problem
[06:03] <Jucato> hmm....
[06:03] <Kiongku> i know only one irc channel thats gives lot of osts for anime.. thats all i know >>
[06:03] <waggle7622frack> samba works in but cant see out and other little quirks and crashes
[06:03] <larson9999> isn't samba passe now?
[06:04] <unix_infidel> uhhh, no...not at all.
[06:04] <Kiongku> Samba?..
[06:04] <Kiongku> !samba
[06:04] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:04] <Kiongku> ah.
[06:05] <waggle7622frack> smb4k works but I need samba to work for the nood crowd installs
[06:05] <larson9999> my sources say, "SMB is being phased out of Linux, going with CIFS (Common Internet File System) instead."
[06:05] <waggle7622frack> *noob
[06:05] <unix_infidel> larson9999: i wonder what your sources are.
[06:06] <larson9999> unix_infidel: a couple different uug's
[06:06] <unix_infidel> because its basically just different nomenclature.
[06:07] <waggle7622frack> samba is forging strong ahead and not looking back. <source thelinuxlinktechshow>
[06:07] <larson9999> my sources suck
[06:07] <Kiongku> amarok 1.4.1 kde sound's seems a bit off ..
[06:08] <Kiongku> i wonder what happened to my xine >>
[06:08] <Jucato> Kiongku: not default xine?
[06:08] <RawSushi> I guess KDE IS full of bugs in kubuntu.
[06:08] <Kiongku> Jucato: nah the patch added
[06:08] <RawSushi> I just cannot change the look
[06:09] <RawSushi> except to the default ones
[06:09] <Jucato> RawSushi: not really
[06:09] <Kiongku> Jucato: it just seems different.. i'm not sure oO
[06:09] <Jucato> RawSushi: didn't you read the last messages I typed?
[06:09] <Admiral_Chicago> i jus used KSnapshot to take a shoot of a region
[06:09] <Admiral_Chicago> it was awesome
[06:09] <RawSushi> about going to Theme Manager?
[06:09] <RawSushi> Yes.
[06:09] <Admiral_Chicago> Kubutu > Ms
[06:09] <Kiongku> RawSushi: i dutn think KDe is at fault here.. u probably did something wrong
[06:10] <Jucato> Kiongku: not RawSushi, but one of the KTH theme he/she downloaded
[06:10] <Kiongku> Jucato: hehe
[06:10] <RawSushi> What could I have done wrong?
[06:10] <RawSushi> No, it's not one.
[06:10] <RawSushi> It's all I've downloaded.
[06:10] <cilkay> How do I switch between the internal TFT panel and the external VGA output with Kubuntu 6.06 running on my ThinkPad laptop?
[06:10] <Jucato> RawSushi: give me another sample of what you downloaed
[06:10] <RawSushi> That have done it.
[06:10] <Jucato> downloaded*
[06:11] <larson9999> unix_infidel: but it's not exactly samba renamed.
[06:11] <unix_infidel> larson9999: of i didnt say that.
[06:11] <Kiongku> RawSushi: pfft.. linux is sure difficult to master for those used to windows
[06:11] <unix_infidel> i said different nomenclature.
[06:11] <vursitis> well #1 get rid of the thinkpad
[06:11] <cilkay> twit
[06:11] <Jucato> RawSushi: point me to another theme  you tried out please
[06:12] <vursitis> naw, im just joking, actualy there should be an option under your display settings
[06:12] <vursitis> under system settings
 because its basically just different nomenclature.  <--- nomenclature means the name you call it
[06:12] <vursitis> and then hardwear
[06:12] <unix_infidel> larson9999: of course there's a qualifier there.
[06:12] <unix_infidel> basically.
[06:13] <unix_infidel> operation and end user operation is the same.
[06:13] <RawSushi> I'm not used to windows.
[06:13] <cilkay> Size, Orientation & Positioning, tried it. Had no effect. There's something called ibm-acpi but I don't see a package for it.
[06:13] <RawSushi> I'm just not used to kde under kubuntu
[06:13] <larson9999> RawSushi: that's a good thing
[06:13] <RawSushi> I used to be able to theme it just fine
[06:13] <RawSushi> what happened?
[06:13] <RawSushi> Jucato: I'm looking
[06:13] <vursitis> is your multiverse repository active?
[06:13] <Kiongku> Jucato: i think i know why.. the cymbals sounds seems different
[06:14] <Jucato>  @_@
[06:14] <RawSushi> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=36103
[06:14] <Jucato> RawSushi: ok let me take a look
[06:14] <vursitis> cilkay are your multiverse repositories active?
[06:15] <cilkay> vursitis: probably not. I'm just shutting down now so that I can bring up the BIOS settings to see if there's anything in there.
[06:15] <cilkay> BTW, it doesn't shutdown properly either.
[06:15] <cilkay> It
[06:16] <cilkay> It has hung at "Will now halt"
[06:16] <vursitis> well try activating your multiverse repositories, alot of times, brand specific packages are located under them
[06:16] <vursitis> ummm thats a kernal problem...i honestly wouldnt know how to fix that
[06:17] <Admiral_Chicago> roll back a kernel
[06:17] <larson9999> my old machine never did turn off properly.
[06:17] <Kiongku> doh what kernel he has anyway
[06:17] <cilkay> In the BIOS, I just saw "Boot display device" I set it to both the internal and external. We'll see if that makes any diff.
[06:17] <vursitis> ok
[06:18] <cilkay> This machine has been working with Mandriva for the last couple of years.
[06:18] <cilkay> External VGA never worked, but then I never cared. I
[06:18] <vursitis> and if that doesnt work, like i said, try activating your multiverse repositories and search for the package
[06:18] <cilkay> 'm going to a conference where I'll need it.
[06:18] <unix_infidel> cilkay: works fine here.
[06:19] <unix_infidel> although, resolution on the host box changes and it pisses me off.
[06:19] <unix_infidel> but i can fireup openoffice and start up work just fine.
[06:20] <aragorn> alguem do rio?
[06:20] <cilkay> unix_infidel: what works fine there?
[06:20] <unix_infidel> vga out to a projector.
[06:20] <aragorn> alguem do Brasil?
[06:21] <cilkay> unix_infidel: works fine for a colleague too, which is why I'm trying Kubuntu
[06:21] <unix_infidel> aragorn: #ubuntu-br
[06:21] <unix_infidel> !br
[06:21] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:21] <aragorn> unix_infidel: tks
[06:21] <Kiongku> aew
[06:21] <aragorn> Kiongku: fala
[06:21] <unix_infidel> aragorn: de nada
[06:22] <Kiongku> XD.. sorry i dunt know br.. i wote something without even knowing
[06:22] <vursitis> lol
[06:22] <Kiongku> my experience from a warcraft 3 server full of brs..
[06:22] <Jucato> RawSushi: you have either stumbled onto a KDE 3.5.4 Kubuntu bug, or we have been so unlucky in finding non-working KTH files
[06:22] <Kiongku> Jucato: wow what a conclusion :p
[06:23] <Jucato> RawSushi: but I know this was working back in KDE 3.5 and 3.5.1 in Breezy
[06:23] <tk> anyone know how to sync the sound in flash with the video? 64bit linux with 32bit firefox
[06:23] <Jucato> Kiongku: based on my own testing
[06:23] <Jucato> Kiongku: test it out yourself if you want
[06:23] <Kiongku> 64 bit linux .. 32 bit firefox ehem
[06:23] <Kiongku> Jucato: nah :3 will  not mess up my desktop for now.. i want it operational :D
[06:23] <Jucato> hmph
[06:24] <_andrew> Howdy
[06:24] <Kiongku> i like the blue background ( ' ') anything blue is good for me
[06:24] <RawSushi> Jucato: hmm, I have 3.5.2
[06:24] <RawSushi> maybe that's my problem
[06:24] <Kiongku> RawSushi: upgrade to 3.5.4 i guess
[06:24] <Jucato> RawSushi: hmm...
[06:24] <Admiral_Chicago> !KDE
[06:24] <Jucato> RawSushi: probably a Kubuntu only problem
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about KDE - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <Kiongku> Jucato has 3.5.4
[06:24] <Admiral_Chicago> !kde
[06:24] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[06:24] <Kiongku> !kde
[06:25] <Admiral_Chicago> yea thats the one
[06:25] <Jucato> Kiongku: I'm using KDE 3.5.4 and it's NOT working
[06:25] <Admiral_Chicago> actually the link is www.kubuntu.org
[06:25] <tk> Kiongku: yah... for flash support to work :P
[06:25] <Jucato> rawr!
[06:25] <Kiongku> Jucato: aha :p.. oops
[06:25] <Admiral_Chicago> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[06:25] <Kiongku> tk: lol anyway 64 bit ususally should have no prob with 32..
[06:25] <Kiongku> i think
[06:25] <Jucato> RawSushi: one thing I'm sure of, it's only KTH that's not working properly
[06:26] <tk> Kiongku: its just the audio in flash is about 1 sec off....
[06:26] <Jucato> RawSushi: all the rest are doing fine. KTH is practically useless anyway...
[06:26] <Kiongku> tk: sorry.. i yet to test my flash with firefox myself :S.. send me a flash?
[06:26] <Kiongku> a link
[06:26] <tk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrguVYKFSKk&mode=related&search=
[06:27] <Kiongku> loading
[06:27] <_andrew> I'm a total noob with linux, How do I install a program? =x I downloaded the firefox .tar.gz, Is there a certain folder you have to extract it into in order to run it?
[06:27] <unix_infidel> !firefox
[06:27] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[06:27] <Kiongku> its good for me
[06:28] <vursitis> no its not... konqueror is the default web browser... i find flaws in that statement
[06:28] <tk> Kiongku: try this one then, it has more taling, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQO3K8BcyGM
[06:28] <_andrew> yeah damn konqueror :(
[06:29] <Kiongku> hmm
[06:29] <Jucato> which statement? who dares blaspheme against the great Konqui?!?!
[06:29] <[Relic] > Where's the info on what drive to point to swap space?
[06:29] <soulrider> how do i know if this thing is folding?
[06:29] <soulrider> do i get some icon or something? :P
[06:29] <Jucato> check the corners? ^_^
[06:29] <Kiongku> Jucato: put _andrew in the dungeons! GUARDS!
[06:29] <Kiongku> soulrider
[06:29] <Kiongku> its in konsole
[06:30] <soulrider> that means
[06:30] <vursitis> no, ubotu says firefox is the default web browser for kubuntu when clearly you have to download it from your package manager after installing kubuntu the default browser is konqueror
[06:30] <Kiongku> did u follow the guidelines?
[06:30] <soulrider> that console will allways have to be open ?
[06:30] <Jucato> oh, ubotu is Ubuntu's pet
[06:30] <Kiongku> souldrider yah.. its likes its window
[06:30] <larson9999> what the heck is the point of folding?
[06:30] <Jucato> Kubuntu's just borrowing it
[06:30] <Kiongku> but no worry
[06:30] <Kiongku> u can open multiple console
[06:30] <soulrider> i use yakuake so it doesnt bother me :P
[06:30] <Kiongku> soulrider: hehe ok
[06:30] <aragorn> Kiongku: sabe como colocar o servidor Brasnet aki?
[06:31] <soulrider> !pt
[06:31] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:31] <Kiongku> aragorn: go to #ubuntu-br
[06:31] <Admiral_Chicago> this whole summer of code thing is awesome
[06:32] <_andrew> Whenever I run Adept it starts in Read-only mode after giving it the root password x_O
[06:32] <Admiral_Chicago> i was looking up the projects for Gaim and KDE and they look awesome
[06:32] <Admiral_Chicago> i forget last years projects but this year has some good stuff going
[06:32] <CVirus> _andrew: try to sudo dpkg-reconfigure adept
[06:33] <tk> soulrider: hows it goin?
[06:33] <Kiongku> tk: join the team :D?
[06:33] <soulrider> hey tk
[06:33] <vursitis> has anyone here heard anything good about slackwear, i have a machine that i like to experament on and im thinking about trying out slackwear
[06:33] <soulrider> sorry i couldnt up any papers today
[06:33] <tk> Kiongku: : which team? :P the poorly lipsynced Flash team? :P
[06:33] <kakalto> vursitis: slackwear... sounds like clothing for lazy people.
[06:34] <tk> soulrider: thats cool, aint seen ya since you started :P
[06:34] <kakalto> vursitis: I assume you mean slackware linux?
[06:34] <soulrider> yea lol
[06:34] <vursitis> yes...
[06:34] <kakalto> lol.
[06:34] <vursitis> lol
[06:34] <Kiongku> tk: nah
[06:34] <Kiongku> kubuntu team
[06:34] <Kiongku> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7868.0,
[06:35] <Kiongku> tk: i found the solution for me
[06:35] <soulrider> tk, join us at fold@home :P
[06:35] <Kiongku> tk: if i let flash go till the end. next time it starts there is the sound delay
[06:36] <Kiongku> tk: i just stop it and play it again.. and the soudn seems synch again
[06:36] <tk> Kiongku: solution for? mine does it everytime :P ohhh hmmm
[06:36] <tk> soulrider: I'm on it... just havent installed it for kubuntu yet
[06:36] <cilkay> Installing tpb (ThinkPad buttons) package. We'll see if that makes any difference.
[06:36] <Kiongku> tk: dunno it just seems liek that for me
[06:36] <cilkay> There's no ibm-acpi packages in universe or multiverse, btw.
[06:36] <Kiongku> 99% fold completed.. my first work unit is almost done :D
[06:36] <Admiral_Chicago> why isn't the package a .deb
[06:36] <Hawkwind> !find ibm
[06:36] <ubotu> Found: libmad0, libmad0-dev, libmagic-dev, libmagic1, libmail-sendmail-perl (and 244 others)
[06:37] <Jucato>  O_O
[06:37] <soulrider> how long does it take to fold ?
[06:37] <soulrider> and how can i see the progress?
[06:37] <Admiral_Chicago> Kiongku, that doesnt make sense that to have to chmod for a linux team
[06:37] <Admiral_Chicago> soulrider, my school is doing the same thing, only we are writing everything ourselves
[06:37] <Admiral_Chicago> because we are hard core
[06:38] <soulrider> lol
[06:38] <soulrider> i can fold papers...
[06:38] <soulrider> nah, i wish i could do origami
[06:38] <soulrider> that thing is wicked :P
[06:39] <Kiongku> soulrider: can do a few origamis..
[06:39] <Kiongku> Admiral_Chicago: bah dunno
[06:39] <soulrider> i can oinly do those thamn paper planes: P
[06:39] <Kiongku> soulrider: my fold time is reaching 24 hrs now
[06:39] <Admiral_Chicago> soulrider, yea we are using unix computers, ~60 and coding everything in fortran
[06:40] <tk> soulrider: my windows account hasnt finished its first one but I havent been running windows much :P
[06:40] <soulrider> cool
[06:40] <soulrider> ok
[06:40] <Kiongku> soulrider: haha
[06:40] <soulrider> Admiral_Chicago: i gto you a programming question then
[06:40] <Admiral_Chicago> shoot
[06:40] <soulrider> something im trying to figure out how to do
[06:40] <soulrider> ok
[06:40] <soulrider> let me go to the restroom first:P brb
[06:40] <Admiral_Chicago> pm me
[06:40] <Kiongku> lol
[06:41] <Kiongku> Admiral_Chicago: fortran programmer :))?
[06:42] <Admiral_Chicago> Kiongku, I programmed in VB amd Java, learning Fortran for my major
[06:42] <Kiongku> Admiral_Chicago: cool!!
[06:45] <cilkay> tpb has nothing to do with activating the external VGA output. It's for mapping the special keys to various functions, something which I don't care about.
[06:45] <SeaRox> does anyone know how to get flash to work in Konqueror?
[06:45] <Hawkwind> !flash > SeaRox
[06:45] <Hawkwind> SeaRox: There is a section on that page for flash within konqueror
[06:46] <Kiongku> !flash
[06:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:46] <cilkay> Hawkwind: hi there. I'm trying Kubuntu on that IBM ThinkPad that I've been running Mandriva on for the last few years.
[06:47] <tk> hmmm soulrider.... is the folding@home all cmd line for linux?
[06:47] <soulrider> yes
[06:47] <tk> that kinda sucks :P
[06:49] <Kiongku> tk: but its good ^^ consider to come in the team :)
[06:49] <Hawkwind> cilkay: Glad to see you're making the switch.  I can honestly say, I don't ever foresee myself going back to Mandriva
[06:49] <Kiongku> tk: well at least it works without a hitch
[06:49] <tk> Kiongku: I've been on the team :P
[06:50] <Kiongku> tk: lol?
[06:50] <Kiongku> soulrider: running?
[06:50] <soulrider> yes, its running
[06:50] <soulrider> how can i see my progress in this thing?
[06:50] <Kiongku> soulrider: nice
[06:50] <Kiongku> there is a %
[06:50] <tk> Kiongku: I joined the folding team like a week ago :P
[06:51] <soulrider> i joined like 10 mins ago
[06:51] <soulrider> :D
[06:51] <Kiongku> tk: join again.. with ur linux.. so that u can work :D
[06:51] <tk> Kiongku: i just set it up in linux :P
[06:51] <Kiongku> joined yesterday.. and still on my 1st work
[06:51] <Admiral_Chicago> i need to stay on kubuntu forums
[06:51] <Kiongku> tk: run run
[06:51] <Admiral_Chicago> and help people out in french
[06:51] <tk> Kiongku: it is
[06:51] <soulrider> can i use my username in other machines
[06:51] <soulrider> maybe i can kidnap my dads computer too
[06:52] <soulrider> but tis running redmond, eeeeewwwwww
[06:52] <Kiongku> a bon?
[06:52] <Kiongku> pour quoi
[06:53] <Kiongku> soulrider: i rather u put another another nick :p
[06:53] <soulrider> soulrider is already taken
[06:53] <soulrider> they stole it from me... my precious.....
[06:53] <soulrider> im very freaky tonight......
[06:53] <soulrider> im kidna hyperactive
[06:53] <Kiongku> soulrider: and it has to run with the consent of ur dad.. the admins can lock our team if u run folding a non-authorised pc
[06:53] <Admiral_Chicago> Kiongku, i need to practice my french
[06:53] <cilkay> Hawkwind: not sure if I'm switching just yet. I can't get the external VGA out working and the external PS2 mouse isn't working either.
[06:54] <Kiongku> a d'acccord je vois :) bonne chance
[06:54] <soulrider> Kiongku: i could run doom 3 on the background in him comp and he wouldnt notice :P
[06:54] <soulrider> besides, he doesnt speak english :P
[06:54] <Kiongku> soulrider: ah? from?
[06:54] <soulrider> UY
[06:54] <soulrider> :P
[06:55] <Kiongku> UY?
[06:55] <soulrider> Uruguay :P
[06:55] <Kiongku> lol
[06:55] <Kiongku> hehe
[06:55] <Kiongku> nice south america?
[06:55] <Kiongku> ._.
[06:56] <Admiral_Chicago> oh man Paraguay once marched an army of children against ecuador
[06:56] <Kiongku> lol
[06:56] <soulrider> yes Kiongku
[06:56] <Kiongku> soulrider: =)
[06:57] <soulrider> i bet you never heard that one before ;)
[06:57] <Kiongku> anyone from africa ._. ..
[06:57] <Kiongku> Uruguay i heard.. from world cup XD
[06:57] <soulrider> i hate football
[06:57] <soulrider> o hate sports
[06:58] <soulrider> im an anti-social nerd ok! :P
[06:58] <Kiongku> soulrider: lol
[06:58] <Kiongku> soulrider: doh.. let me make u more social
[06:58] <Kiongku> @______________________@
[06:58] <soulrider> **i ama social nerd**
[06:58] <Kiongku> lol.. haha
[06:59] <nalioth> um, i believe #kubuntu-offtopic exists for this stuff
[06:59] <Kiongku> yay work unit done!
[06:59] <Admiral_Chicago> nalioth, you're mean@
[07:02] <soulrider> konversation should hve slap in the ocnext menu
[07:02] <soulrider> like MIRC
[07:02] <soulrider> so i can slap people witha  large trout :P
[07:02] <soulrider> (im so getting kicked out of here soon) :P
[07:04] <soulrider> ouch! that hurts
[07:04] <Kiongku> lol
[07:04] <soulrider> its gonna be blue in the morning :/
[07:05] <SeaRox> ubotu:  Thanks.  Flash is working in Konqueror now.
[07:05] <soulrider> SeaRox:  isa  ncie eprosn, he knows bots have feelings too
[07:06] <Kiongku> hmm
[07:06] <Kiongku> the page does not update spontanewously
[07:06] <Kiongku> *spontaneously
[07:06] <soulrider> im still at 0 %
[07:07] <soulrider> i dont think thats normal
[07:07] <Kiongku> soulrider: it is
[07:07] <soulrider> but its been running for over an hour
[07:07] <Kiongku> soulrider: its very slow.. at least 30 min for 1 %.. may be
[07:08] <soulrider> and i got a fairly good processor
[07:08] <Kiongku> soulrider: depends
[07:08] <soulrider> 3 GHZ
[07:08] <Kiongku> soulrider: just let it run.. if one day 0%.. then i agre with u.. something really not good
[07:08] <soulrider> 3066 mhz actually :P
[07:08] <soulrider> lol
[07:08] <Kiongku> 2910 mhz
[07:08] <soulrider> im gonna restart it
[07:08] <soulrider> haha, i beat you :P
[07:09] <Kiongku> soulrider: ?
[07:09] <Kiongku> soulrider: how many steps
[07:09] <Kiongku> soulrider: total
[07:09] <soulrider> it said :  500000 steps
[07:09] <soulrider> i closed it
[07:09] <soulrider> i typed fold on console
[07:09] <soulrider> and the cursor is just there
[07:09] <soulrider> i dont see any output :/
[07:10] <Kiongku> heh?
[07:10] <soulrider> how am i supposed to open this program ?
[07:10] <Kiongku> ./FAH504-Linux.exe in the folder where u put the fold
[07:10] <soulrider> every time ?
[07:10] <Kiongku> yah.. but usually u just let it run
[07:11] <Kiongku> does not need to close
[07:11] <soulrider> i know
[07:11] <soulrider> but i go to redmond to play doom 3 :P
[07:11] <Kiongku> its just one code :P no big deal ^
[07:11] <soulrider> wait
[07:11] <Kiongku> lol
[07:11] <soulrider> can i do a script like
[07:11] <soulrider> #!/bin/sh
[07:11] <soulrider> and hen
[07:11] <Hawkwind> Yes
[07:11] <soulrider> the path and FAH504-Linux.exe
[07:11] <soulrider> and put it in bin
[07:11] <Kiongku> i think so
[07:12] <soulrider> :)
[07:12] <Hawkwind> You could even create an icon or something for the script
[07:12] <Kiongku> should be ok.. but not sure
[07:12] <soulrider> im learning to use this :)
[07:12] <Kiongku> hehe
[07:12] <Kiongku> i still got to learn
[07:12] <soulrider> i like my desktop to be completely clear though :P
[07:12] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Ahhh.  I'm used to E17 where icons are on the shelf(similar to kicker) :P
[07:13] <Kiongku> lol
[07:13] <soulrider> weird thing is that i got a program that i call by typing fold but it doesnt do anything
[07:13] <soulrider> sleep well Hawkwind
[07:13] <Hawkwind> Thanks, you too
[07:13] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: nite
[07:15] <soulrider> wasnt :qw the command to save adn quit in vim ?
[07:20] <cilkay> :wq
[07:20] <cilkay> write first, then quite
[07:21] <cilkay> quit
[07:21] <soulrider> lol
[07:21] <soulrider> i just figured it out
[07:23] <soulrider> Kiongku: has gone silent
[07:24] <derek_> I am trying to download Pokerstars, but they are asking for a locationto download to?
[07:24] <soulrider> desktop? :/
[07:24] <Kevin> hey what is with this hdd:  timeout waiting for dma when im tryin to install
[07:24] <derek_> illegal loction
[07:25] <soulrider> !fold
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fold - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:25] <Kevin> anyone know about these erros when im tring to install
[07:25] <Kevin> a bunch of numbers
[07:26] <Kevin> ?? :(
[07:29] <Kiongku> soulrider: yah.. i'm going out bye everyone ( and shit i broke my glasses DAMN IT)
[07:29] <sylvia> hello
[07:30] <sylvia> This is the first time I  have used this thng
[07:30] <sylvia> so i dont even know if this is working
[07:31] <soulrider> Kiongku: i know hwo tha feels
[07:31] <soulrider> its horrible
[07:31] <soulrider> and im oing to ebd too
[07:31] <soulrider> sylvia: IRC? its working :)
[07:31] <sylvia> irc? lord i feel very ignorant
[07:31] <soulrider> need help with kubuntu ?
[07:31] <HiChewLove> <sylvia still
[07:31] <soulrider> this chat
[07:31] <HiChewLove> i just learned how to change myname
[07:32] <soulrider> :)
[07:32] <HiChewLove> i figured as much
[07:32] <soulrider> just type /nick and the new nick
[07:32] <Kiongku> soulrider: hah
[07:32] <soulrider> Kiongku: even with my glasses, im a mole
[07:32] <soulrider> seriously
[07:32] <soulrider> i allways miss my busses
[07:32] <HiChewLove> So today I had my first crashcourse with linux
[07:32] <soulrider> ebcause i can never see the number in time
[07:32] <soulrider> and im not joking :/
[07:32] <soulrider> how did it go
[07:33] <HiChewLove> u talking to me soulrider?
[07:33] <soulrider> you will like it, believe me
[07:33] <soulrider> ive been using ti for 2 or 3 weeks, and im nto going back to windows
[07:33] <soulrider> yes HiChewLove
[07:33] <draik> TRANSCRIPT FOR AUGUST 19TH CLASS IS NOW AVAILABLE AT http://www.draikunderlord.com/CLI_Sat.pdf
[07:33] <HiChewLove> it was good
[07:33] <HiChewLove> i was slightly overwhelmed
[07:33] <HiChewLove> i miss windows
[07:33] <HiChewLove> but im onto a new adventure
[07:34] <HiChewLove> i just need an introduction...the rest of my l inux life will be uncovered by discovery and experimentation
[07:34] <soulrider> yea i know the feeling
[07:34] <soulrider> but this is much better believe me
[07:34] <soulrider> and much more powerful
[07:34] <HiChewLove> dude
[07:34] <HiChewLove> everyone that uses this thing uses the word powerful
[07:35] <HiChewLove> so is this room particularly used to chat about linux?
[07:35] <soulrider> HiChewLove: ive been experimenting too, but allways remember to read carefuly and not to do soemthing you think might damage your comp. Tahts what IRC is for, to ask others: )
[07:35] <soulrider> for kubuntu users
[07:35] <soulrider> just ask somethign here
[07:35] <soulrider> everyone answers everyones questions :)
[07:36] <HiChewLove> so is there naywewhre to chat to JUST chat
[07:37] <soulrider> !offtopic
[07:37] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:37] <HiChewLove> thanks...
[07:37] <soulrider> but we sometimes chat here too :P
[07:37] <soulrider> especially me, im offtopic king :P
[07:37] <soulrider> remember to register witht he IRC server, you can do it by typing /msg nickserv register <password>
[07:37] <HiChewLove> im so losttt
[07:38] <HiChewLove> what is irc>?
[07:38] <soulrider> and wvery time you join type /msg nickserv identify <password>
[07:38] <soulrider> irc is what youre using :)
[07:38] <soulrider> THIS is IRC
[07:38] <soulrider> if you need help you can contcact me on msn/aim/yahoo
[07:38] <HiChewLove> what is your sn?
[07:39] <ballchalk> man
[07:39] <ballchalk> this sucks
[07:39] <ballchalk> i can play mp3 through frostwire
[07:39] <ballchalk> but not through amarok or anything eles
[07:39] <SeaRox> Does anyone know the difference between firefox and swiftfox?
[07:39] <HiChewLove> soulrider?
[07:39] <soulrider> for AIM ?
[07:39] <HiChewLove> yes
[07:39] <HiChewLove> aim is preferred
[07:39] <michael_> amarok is the bomb
[07:39] <soulrider> draik:  where can we geta llt he transcripts?
[07:40] <soulrider> my AIM is: Darkstar2558
[07:40] <michael_> swiftfox is optimized for certain cpus
[07:40] <draik> which one?
[07:40] <michael_> u d/l the one that fist ur machine
[07:40] <draik> IRC or CLI?
[07:40] <ballchalk> michael_: how did u get it to work? i installed w32codecs and it's an orphan
[07:40] <michael_> fits*
[07:40] <michael_> mp3?
[07:40] <soulrider> !mp3
[07:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:40] <SeaRox> michael_: so it runes faster than firefox?
[07:40] <soulrider> follow the simple steps and you will ahve mp3 support
[07:41] <soulrider> also, int he amarok website it exaplins how to gte it working
[07:41] <ballchalk> is there an order in which i should install the codecs / players or what?
[07:41] <michael_> in those forums there are steps for 'non-free' formats, like mp3
[07:41] <michael_> thats how i got it
[07:41] <michael_> sry dble post
[07:41] <ballchalk> soulrider: i've upgraded amarok to 1.4.1
[07:41] <ballchalk> shouldn't 1.4.1 fix everything?
[07:41] <draik> soulrider, IRC is http://www.draikunderlord.com/IRC.pdf and the CLI is http://www.draikunderlord.com/CLI_Sat.pdf
[07:42] <soulrider> thanks draik
[07:42] <draik> np
[07:42] <ballchalk> hm
[07:42] <draik> the CLI is only from the sat class
[07:42] <draik> I will combine it with sunday's class once it's done
[07:42] <SeaRox> do I have to have firefox installed for swiftfox to work?
[07:42] <michael_> its a separate d/l
[07:43] <soulrider> k, thanks
[07:43] <ballchalk> anybody use iTunes?
[07:44] <ballchalk> under wine that is?
[07:44] <draik> ballchalk, I use everyone ELSE'S iTunes
[07:44] <michael_> lol
[07:44] <michael_> dont we all
[07:44] <michael_> ;)
[07:45] <ballchalk> hah ok
[07:45] <cilkay> There is an awful lot of unnecessry stuff that gets installed with Kubuntu. E.g. I have stuff for Sony laptops installed when I don't even have a Sony laptop. Ditto for EVMS, RAID, LVM. None of that stuff should have been installed really.
[07:45] <ballchalk> just can't get amarok to work even after i followed the instructions on the page
[07:45] <ballchalk> i even installed xine extra-codecs and it was orphan
[07:46] <soulrider> ballchalk: i could make it work with no problems
[07:46] <soulrider> did you go to the amarok site adn check there?
[07:46] <ballchalk> soulrider: luck?
[07:46] <ballchalk> soulrider: i did all i could
[07:47] <michael_> i had no probs either...hmmm
[07:47] <ballchalk> but i'd want to check the amarok site once more
[07:49] <ballchalk> soulrider: which site did u follow?
[07:50] <soulrider> i just googled amarok until i found the site :/
[07:50] <michael_> automatix
[07:51] <ballchalk> adept
[07:51] <osiris> so what are the main supported p2p aps in kubuntu
[07:51] <soulrider> i use ktorrent
[07:51] <michael_> azureus
[07:51] <osiris> other than torrents
[07:51] <osiris> is there a limewire, or .....
[07:53] <ballchalk> which program uses the w32codecs plugin?
[07:53] <soulrider> frostwire is cool
[07:53] <draik> osiris, use frostwire
[07:53] <soulrider> but remember to install java first
[07:53] <soulrider> ballchalk: i think kaffeine
[07:54] <draik> osiris, sudo apt-get install frostwire
[07:54] <osiris> E: Couldn't find package frostwire
[07:55] <draik> do you have your packages set to mutliverse?
[07:55] <osiris> i can install the deb by hand
[07:55] <osiris> draik, i believe i do
[07:55] <kendrick> so, wow... konq is suddenly crashing fairly consistently on my kubuntu box :(
[07:55] <ballchalk> soulrider: but my w32codecs is orphan how do i get kaffiene to depend it
[07:55] <draik> sorry, not packages, repositories
[07:55] <draik> make sure you do
[07:55] <kendrick> viewing ftp server... website... applications:/ ... etc.
[07:55] <soulrider> uhm
[07:55] <soulrider> i dont really know, sorry
[07:56] <kendrick> damn, nothing new to fetch :(
[07:56] <osiris> draik, yep, multiverse is un-commented
[07:57] <draik> hmmm
[07:57] <draik> let me pastebin my sources.lst file
[07:57] <osiris> the box is fully updated
[07:57] <draik> !pastebin
[07:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:57] <draik> lol... forgot the link
[07:57] <osiris> ill just install the frostwire deb by hand
[07:57] <osiris> no biggie
[07:58] <osiris> i do want the source though, so it will update
[07:58] <ironfroggy> im getting repeated problems with kate just randomly crashing while hitting a key. sometimes it does it reliably several times in a row on the same keypress at with the same buffer state.
[07:58] <ironfroggy> anyone else getting something like that?
[07:59] <kendrick> just konq crashing randomly tonight :(
[07:59] <soulrider> ironfroggy: works fine for me :/
[07:59] <soulrider> its crash night
[07:59] <kendrick> like, i can get it to crash every time
[07:59] <ballchalk> soulrider: i love you man
[07:59] <soulrider> ironfroggy: try using vim
[07:59] <kendrick> open konq, click "Applications" in the start page.  crash.
[07:59] <kendrick> open konq, click "Applications" in the start page.  crash again.
[07:59] <soulrider> may be a lil complicated at first, but its good
[07:59] <ballchalk> amarok is now my everyone's iTunes!
[07:59] <soulrider> :)
[07:59] <soulrider> glad it works ballchalk
[08:00] <ironfroggy> soulrider: i use vim often, but only away from home (better battery life without running X)
[08:00] <ballchalk> libxine-extracodecs
[08:01] <soulrider> ironfroggy: i want a laptop :P
[08:01] <soulrider> no enrd is complete without one :P
[08:01] <kendrick> :(
[08:02] <ironfroggy> soulrider: you are incomplete!
[08:02] <kendrick> i can't even search google for "kubuntu konqueror crash" without it crashing :()
[08:02] <kendrick> wow
[08:02] <soulrider> i am
[08:02] <soulrider> ironfroggy: send em our laptop!
[08:02] <kendrick> i just tried to run konqueror from the command line:  "$ konqueror"  and it crashed!!!
[08:02] <soulrider> lol
[08:02] <soulrider> use opera
[08:02] <soulrider> problem solved: P
[08:03] <osiris> frostwire cant find java
[08:03] <ironfroggy> i do have an extra laptop
[08:04] <soulrider> how much doy ou think they would charge if you sent it to me? :P
[08:05] <soulrider> for free of course: P
[08:05] <soulrider> beacuse im cool
[08:05] <soulrider> and the master of the universe: P
[08:05] <soulrider> however, laptopless :P
[08:05] <ironfroggy> well actually my son needs it
[08:05] <soulrider> damn
[08:05] <ironfroggy> he's almost three months and his education would suffer at this point without one.
[08:05] <soulrider> those children allways runing things......
[08:05] <soulrider> 3 months old? :/
[08:07] <draik> soulrider, you know kids these days... they grow up so fast :-P
[08:07] <soulrider> lol
[08:08] <soulrider> i remember we had our first computer when i was around 4
[08:08] <soulrider> it was that thing that i wasnt allowed to touch
[08:08] <soulrider> i had to ask my dad to put prince of persia for me lol
[08:08] <kendrick> well, restarting X certainly didn't help :(
[08:09] <draik> osiris, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21173
[08:09] <draik> sorry for the delay, got held up with something
[08:09] <soulrider> ok, it was nice talking to you all, but ill have to go to bed before i collaps eon the keyboard and spam IRC (more than i already do) with random keystrokes
[08:10] <soulrider> so see you tomorrow!!
[08:10] <draik> lol
[08:10] <draik> bye soulrider
[08:10] <soulrider> bye draik, bye ironfroggy
[08:10] <kendrick> backtrace shows   #6  0x0ebf1cb6 in ?? ()  and  #7 0xb60e8251 in DOM::CSSParser::defaultNamespace ()   ... and a bunch more.  whatever that all means :^/
[08:20] <kendrick> wish me luck
[08:31] <Synaptics> hello, anyone knows how i can install photoshop cs in kubuntu?
[08:32] <draik> wine
[08:32] <draik> !wine > Synaptics
[08:35] <michael_> there is no native install for photoshop on linux
[08:35] <michael_> sad to say
[08:37] <Synaptics> michael_:  oohh. but does it work in wine?
[08:39] <enzo> !pastebin
[08:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:43] <DFM> Can anyone tell ehat it means when your package manager give's you a "BREAK" install when you request an install? I assume something is either broke or will be broken upon the install.
[08:49] <crimsun> Hobbsee: pong (RE: alsa-lib errors)
[08:57] <Hobbsee> crimsun: heya.  it seems to have fixed itself on reboot
[08:58] <crimsun> Hobbsee: do you have /etc/asound.conf | ~/.asoundrc* ?
[08:59] <Hobbsee> crimsun: nope
[08:59] <crimsun> Hobbsee: what're the contents of /proc/asound/cards ?
[08:59] <Hobbsee> crimsun: it's workign now....
[08:59] <Hobbsee> sarah@sarah:~$ cat  /proc/asound/cards
[08:59] <Hobbsee>  0 [I82801DBICH4   ] : ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4
[08:59] <Hobbsee>                       Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with AD1981B at 0x4a080800, irq 11
[08:59] <crimsun> Hobbsee: (right, but I need to know if it's another issue)
[08:59] <Hobbsee> crimsun: sure
[09:00] <Hobbsee> unfortunately, i cant make it break again :P
[09:00] <crimsun> you may be able to with modprobe snd-intel8x0 index=-1  (or any non-zero negative index value)
[09:01] <crimsun> I've worked around it in Edgy's alsa-utils if you use asoundconf(1), though
[09:01] <crimsun> (that's bug 43146)
[09:02] <Hobbsee> crimsun: right, that doesnt break it
[09:03] <thompa> i just tried edgy not kde part though, but am running kde apps real well
[09:03] <thompa> so far no probelms and its lots faster
[09:03] <redblades> Hi, I'm having trouble with K3B. For some reason, the drive I need to use is not detected.
[09:04] <redblades> It only lists the drive that *can't* handle -R, but not the one that can.
[09:04] <redblades> How do I allow it to use the other drive??
[09:05] <redblades> Hello? Anyone?
[09:05] <thompa> i think the kernel for amd64 is better
[09:06] <thompa> just hang someone will usually answer
[09:06] <redblades> Okay, cool.
[09:07] <thompa> not me probably, im in gnome
[09:07] <thompa> but running kubuntu usually
[09:07] <thompa> is your drive detected otherwise?
[09:08] <thompa> redblades: are you talking about cd -r
[09:09] <thompa> redblades: first have you updated kd3b?
[09:09] <redblades> Uhh... I'm using a DVD, and I don't think so...
[09:10] <redblades> thompa:
[09:10] <redblades> ??
[09:11] <thompa> did you got to devices open that
[09:11] <thompa> in k3b open devices
[09:11] <thompa> redblades: look in (of  k3b) system:settings
[09:12] <redblades> I'm sorry?
[09:12] <thompa> sorry im not sure if your talking about a dvd plaer or dvd disk
[09:13] <redblades> It can't detect the player, but it can detect the disk.
[09:13] <thompa> now i know the question
[09:13] <redblades> The player/writer is listed in devices, but I can't select it for burning with.
[09:14] <thompa> when you choose data dvd project?
[09:15] <thompa> ive had bad luck with dvd isos for some reason
[09:15] <redblades> yes, dvd data project
[09:16] <thompa> so when the window: burn: burning device?
[09:17] <thompa> is that the error
[09:17] <ballchalk> i liiiiiiike kubuntu
[09:17] <ballchalk> i can play my mp3s
[09:17] <ballchalk> more so linux where all the development goes and the much more friendly community
[09:18] <michael_> lol
[09:18] <michael_> ballchalk-no amarok?
[09:19] <thompa> redblades: what is listend under burning device when you get to last window?
[09:19] <thompa> redblades: change it there , or set up your permissons
[09:20] <thompa> if the dvd is actually there otherwise.. i dont know
[09:20] <redblades> Uhh... there is only one option in the burning dialogue, so are you saying permissions?
[09:20] <redblades> How would I change that?
[09:20] <thompa> what is the option in the dialg?
[09:21] <redblades> The name of my other writer
[09:21] <redblades> RICOH somethingy
[09:22] <thompa> redblades: what is the name of your dvd burner
[09:23] <ballchalk> michael_: yes amarok with libxine-extracodecs
[09:24] <ballchalk> coming from osx86 having no sound is difficult to bear especially when u know u got an os that can definitely work it
[09:24] <ballchalk> osx86 had everything except ACPI support for powermanagement
[09:25] <olo_olo> hello!
[09:25] <ballchalk> hello!
[09:26] <redblades> RICOH DVD+RW MP5240 thompa
[09:26] <crazy_penguin> Good morning everyone! :)
[09:26] <olo_olo> nice! I am new here and definetly know nothing :)
[09:26] <anthony_C> Hello
[09:26] <olo_olo> goodmorning!
[09:27] <anthony_C> how is everyone
[09:27] <olo_olo> of course I scared the hell out of you !_!
[09:27] <olo_olo> hehe
[09:28] <olo_olo> Thanx dude
[09:28] <olo_olo> How about you?
[09:31] <redblades> thompa: ????
[09:32] <thompa> redblades: i dont have k3b in front of me
[09:32] <thompa> im running edgy in amd64
[09:33] <insanekane> hello aseigo
[09:34] <aseigo> insanekane: hey =)
[09:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Good mornung everyone
[09:34] <insanekane> aseigo: are you busy ?
[09:34] <aseigo> working on some stuff in kicker, but otherwise no.. why?
[09:34] <Hobbsee> aseigo: cool, what are you working on?
[09:34] <thompa> redblades: is your dvd player/burner set up in ubuntu
[09:35] <Hobbsee> aseigo: where are you, btw?
[09:35] <insanekane> aseigo: well ... i have a segfault when running a Qt app ... was wondering if you could take a look at the bt and suggest something ....
[09:35] <aseigo> Hobbsee: bug fixes. particularly with painting speed in the taskbar.
[09:35] <insanekane> aseigo: http://rafb.net/paste/results/xkludS55.html
[09:35] <aseigo> insanekane: sure
[09:35] <aseigo> Hobbsee: calgary, canada
[09:35] <Hobbsee> aseigo: nice :)
[09:35] <aseigo> Hobbsee: you?
[09:35] <Hobbsee> aseigo: ahh.  for some reason i thought you were in au.
[09:35] <Hobbsee> aseigo: sydney, australia
[09:35] <aseigo> Hobbsee: ah, home of the next linux.conf.au
[09:35] <aseigo> heh.. no.. the other ex-colony ;)
[09:35] <Hobbsee> aseigo: that's the one, you coming?
[09:36] <aseigo> Hobbsee: no plans yet. perhaps they'll contact me. we have a decent contingent showing up this year. last year it was just me and the klaptopdaemon maintainer. but we rocked the house. this year it seems many more are inspired =)
[09:36] <Hobbsee> aseigo: nice...
[09:37] <insanekane> aseigo: it is a segfault on QShared::deref() ... this has appeared before for me (in fact, with the exact same bt). the last time, it was due to complier mismatch between Qt and the app I am building. This time, both Qt and the app are compiled with the very same compiler (gcc 4.0.3)
[09:38] <aseigo> insanekane: hmm.. well, obviously the qstring hasn't actually attached to anything with the ptr being 0x0
[09:39] <insanekane> aseigo: the segfault is in Qt itself ... and I believe an extremely well tested piece of code :) i.e., QString
[09:39] <aseigo> the fact that it goes into dtor's at that point looks a little odd =)
[09:39] <aseigo> insanekane: yes, the trouble will be elsewhere
[09:39] <insanekane> aseigo: what do you suggest ?
[09:41] <aseigo> insanekane: hum. yeah, i don't know what to suggest. that really does look like something very wrong with your build ... it's all straight forward qt mainwindow code paths in there =/
[09:41] <insanekane> aseigo: yes thats the problem
[09:41] <redblades> thompa: yeah it works fine
[09:41] <insanekane> aseigo: another thing is, i got this segfault only when configuring --enable-debug
[09:42] <insanekane> aseigo: without the debug, i get a segfault much later
[09:42] <insanekane> aseigo: but it is not a QShared segfault
[09:42] <aseigo> hooray for memory corruption. question is what the source of it is. =)
[09:43] <insanekane> well, i am totally confused ... i've been looking for a solution for more than 2 weeks
[09:44] <insanekane> i have no idea what to do ... i always have problems of this sort with this project :/
[09:44] <insanekane> never able to actually work on it ...
[09:45] <redblades> Ah damn. I just realised thompa left
[09:52] <thompa> what if any are you using to create simple web pages, does open office?
[09:56] <fritsch> !kopete > fritsch
[10:15] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning abattoir!
[10:15] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hello :)
[10:15] <thebouzouker> hello!
[10:22] <exotic> hey all
[10:22] <exotic> need some help plz
[10:22] <exotic> when i try to install .deb files, by dpkg command
[10:22] <exotic> i get:
[10:23] <exotic> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[10:23] <Hobbsee> exotic: stick sudo in front of it
[10:24] <exotic> ah, thanx this works
[10:24] <zipper_> !frostwire
[10:24] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[10:24] <exotic> another small question if u don't mind,...
[10:24] <DralaFi> hey does kubuntu still have that serious vulnerability where the installer writes your password in the install log file, which is world-readable?
[10:25] <exotic> i want to change between two layouts with any keyboard shortcut,..but couldn't figure out how to do it
[10:26] <exotic> i mean i just want to say press on both Alts to switch between the two keyboards layouts,..
[10:26] <exotic> is there anyway to dot hat?
[10:27] <exotic> any help?
[10:27] <fdoving> exotic: i'll look into it.. hang on.
[10:28] <exotic> ah, ok thanx very much in advance
[10:31] <fdoving> exotic: you mean the keys you can setup in the configuration panel you get when you run alt+f2 'kcmshell keys' ?
[10:31] <zipper_> !java
[10:31] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:32] <TheFuzzball> hello, I have just installed Kubuntu 6.06 but when I went to ubuntuguide.org it is not working, does anyone know whats wrong with it, or is there an alternate site I can use?
[10:32] <exotic> ummm
[10:34] <exotic> well, this would run an application, right?
[10:34] <TheFuzzball> can anyone help me?
[10:34] <exotic> but i just want to 'switch' between the two layouts
[10:34] <whoru> exotic: kmenu--system settings--regional and accessibilities--keyboard layout--switching options
[10:35] <tk> Kiongku_: you around?
[10:35] <whoru> exotic: sorry....kmenu--system settings--regional and accessibilities--keyboard layout--xkb options
[10:35] <fdoving> exotic: yes, it's not a solution, it's just a question to make the problem clearer to me.
[10:36] <TheFuzzball> HELLO???
[10:36] <samjnaa> hello
[10:36] <samjnaa> can anyone help me with finding the entire list of packages in all four categories - main, restricted, universe, multiverse?
[10:38] <abattoir> DralaFi: that issue was resolved in Dapper, which is the current stable version.... hence if you have made a fresh install of dapper, it shouldnt be a problem
[10:38] <exotic_> sorry i was disconnected,..
[10:38] <exotic_> well, i checked it,..
[10:38] <exotic_> and yes, it seems that's the right one,..
[10:38] <exotic_> yet it doesn't work!
[10:39] <TheFuzzball> samjnaa:  I don't know much about it, but I think they are already in Adept and you need to enable them
[10:39] <exotic_> i mean xkb options
[10:39] <exotic_> and then i picked for example: Both Alt keys together change group
[10:39] <abattoir> TheFuzzball: the site seems to be down... what exactly do you need?
[10:39] <samjnaa> @Fuzzball: thanks but i mean just the list. not for the repos.
[10:40] <exotic_> whoru: am i doing the right thing?
[10:40] <abattoir> samjnaa: if you enable all the four repositories, you'd find the list of all packages arranged in alphabeticalr order.... in adept :)
[10:41] <TheFuzzball> abattoir: I need to find a respo generator so it generates the apt respo file
[10:41] <abattoir> !source-o-matic
[10:41] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:41] <MilhousePunkRock> !easysource
[10:41] <abattoir> TheFuzzball: ^^^^
[10:41] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: beat ya :P
[10:41] <whoru> exotic: tick the layout--enable keyboard layout,choose your layouts then enable xkb options --groups switch behaviour
[10:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Damn you abattoir ;-)
[10:41] <whoru> exotic: then choose you shortcut there
[10:41] <abattoir> samjnaa: packages.ubuntu.com might also be helpful
[10:41] <TheFuzzball> abattoir: There was some other stuff too, like how to install IE6 with Flash 9
[10:42] <abattoir> TheFuzzball: w/ wine?
[10:43] <abattoir> TheFuzzball: google says http://www.warrenguy.com/docs/ubuntu-linux/installing-internet-explorer-6.html
[10:43] <TheFuzzball> abattoir: yea, you do need wine
[10:43] <exotic_> whoru: thanx really
[10:44] <TheFuzzball> abattoir: thanks
[10:44] <abattoir> TheFuzzball: you're welcome :)
[10:44] <whoru> exotic_: ok..hope its working there, in my case i use the win-key to change the layout
[10:46] <exotic_> whoru: what's layout variant?
[10:47] <whoru> exotic_: jp and us
[10:49] <exotic_> whoru: everything's okay, and i ticked the keys i want,.. and enabled keyboard layouts,... yet still doesn't switch! am going crazy!
[10:52] <whoru> exotic_: sorry cant help further...maybe if you restart X (just a guess) though
[10:52] <exotic_> aha,.. k then...
[10:52] <exotic_> whoru: thanx very much
[10:59] <DralaFi> .... kubuntu installer crashed
[10:59] <DralaFi> :( :( :(
[11:01] <DralaFi> it jus got passed the configuring <foobar> after instalation
[11:01] <DralaFi> and then black screen with the gpm mouse cursor that didn't work...
[11:04] <MilhousePunkRock> DralaFi That sounds like X is not configured properly
[11:04] <MilhousePunkRock> DralaFi What happens if you press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace?
[11:04] <DralaFi> MilhousePunkRock, i'm using the alternate disk. no X11.
[11:04] <DralaFi> kubuntu 6.06.1
[11:05] <MilhousePunkRock> DralaFi Ah, ok
[11:05] <DralaFi> it installes the base system, then configures pacakges, but then some point it seems to crash
[11:05] <MilhousePunkRock> That's beyond my knowledge...
[11:06] <DralaFi> I didn't see at which point - i'm redoing the install now so i can see
[11:08] <DralaFi> if this fails, i might try 5.10, and if that fails, i'll try good old slackware
[11:09] <DralaFi> it says "Retrieving file n of 745" is that over the nework or from the cd?
[11:15] <abattoir> DralaFi: the disk is clean?
[11:15] <abattoir> DralaFi: did you run the integrity check?
[11:15] <DralaFi> no
[11:16] <DralaFi> just checking md5sum of the iso
[11:16] <DralaFi> kubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso: OK
[11:17] <abattoir> DralaFi: ok, but there could be problems w/ the media... eg. the cd might be scratched/ might not have been burned properly
[11:17] <DralaFi> i has k3b check the disk - it was ok
[11:17] <abattoir> DralaFi: the installer checks the cd to make sure its right...
[11:17] <DralaFi> *had
[11:18] <DralaFi> well then it probably checked it... and seems to be ok. its installing stuff from the disk..
[11:18] <abattoir> DralaFi: you'd need to run it manually... it isnt done automatically
[11:18] <DralaFi> just at some point the screen went blank, and couldn't switch tty's and could only ctrl-alt-del :(
[11:18] <DralaFi> ok, i can do that, after this try.
[11:19] <DralaFi> i had problems running the desktop installer as well - bugs in the kubuntu distro, so maybe kubuntu is really buggy :(
[11:20] <abattoir> DralaFi: everything has its own share of bugs... but i wouldnt say kubuntu is 'buggy' :)
[11:20] <DralaFi> :)
[11:21] <DralaFi> "Select and install software" screen is at 45%.... so it's ok so far.
[11:26] <DralaFi> there it is again.... 50-something percent and the screen goes blank
[11:35] <tk> !xgl
[11:35] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:38] <DralaFi> abattoir, checking cd for defects now.
[11:39] <abattoir> DralaFi: ok... if the cd is clean... i think you could look at the installer logs... to see where it fails
[11:39] <DralaFi> abattoir, i have to reboot... will it be on the livecd rootfs, or on the target partition?
[11:40] <abattoir> DralaFi: it should be on the target root partition... but tbh, i'm not 100% sure
[11:40] <abattoir> DralaFi: what did the 'check for defects' thing say?
[11:41] <DralaFi> abattoir, it's still running.
[11:41] <DralaFi> i'll get slax to mount the target fs and check log. Do you know where the installer logfile is/
[11:42] <abattoir> DralaFi: see if /var/log/installer/syslog exists
[11:42] <DralaFi> cool thanks. I'll check it after the integrity scan
[11:47] <DralaFi> abattoir, CDROM integrity scan successful. CDROM is valid.
[11:47] <abattoir> DralaFi: ok.... did you check the log?
[11:48] <DralaFi> just gonna boot slax - but i also need to have breakfast ;)
[11:48] <abattoir> ok :)
[12:00] <abloylas> guys! something keeps messing up my xorg.conf. wanna help out?
[12:01] <Kiongku_> o0?
[12:04] <trish_> hi! i just installed kubuntu, my first time using anything other than windows. the interface will not come up. are there any issues with wireless?
[12:06] <abattoir> abloylas: are you running xgl/compiz by any chance ?
[12:07] <abattoir> trish_: which wireless chipset?
[12:07] <abloylas> abattoir: no, i don't think so:)
[12:07] <abattoir> abloylas: ok, what exactly happens?
[12:07] <trish_> i just found this in dmesg "bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed."
[12:08] <abattoir> trish_: ok, its a broadcom chip...
[12:08] <trish_> Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce OnBroadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)e 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[12:08] <abloylas> ok, sometimes my resoluton options go crazy and a new backup of xorg.conf named xorg.conf.1 or 2 appears
[12:08] <trish_> oops, got that twice, sorry
[12:08] <abloylas> reverting to an old xorg.conf fixes the problem but what causes it??
[12:09] <abattoir> trish_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper should help you :)
[12:09] <trish_> thank you!
[12:10] <abattoir> abloylas: do you remember anything specific you did before xorg.conf is changed?
[12:11] <abloylas> i really don't think i did anything special, it's happened twice now
[12:11] <west-en> wich do you think is the best ntfsdriver for read and write support?
[12:12] <abloylas> maybe it's the nvidia drivers i installed with automatix a some time ago. maybe i should reinstall those
[12:13] <abloylas> the problems didn't start until some time after the automatix nvidias
[12:13] <tk> i havent had any problrems with ntfs-3g
[12:13] <west-en> ok
[12:13] <west-en> i tried captive-ntfs but it didn't work
[12:13] <abattoir> abloylas: could be
[12:14] <abloylas> automatix warns about installing over an earlier install, though. i'm not sure...
[12:14] <tk> !ntfs-3g
[12:14] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[12:14] <tk> that link has a good how-to on it... i think thats the one I used...
[12:15] <abloylas> if i mess things up completely i won't be able to fix it myself
[12:15] <abloylas> could adept be doing something nasty? should i use synaptic on kubuntu?
[12:16] <west-en> hmm i get this error when i run ./configure in the ntfs-3g directory: checking for fuse >= 2.5.0... configure: error: ntfs-3g requires FUSE version >= 2.5.0. See http://fuse.sourceforge.net/ how to install FUSE.
[12:16] <oomph> synaptic is generally more stable from my experiences
[12:16] <oomph> then again i usually just apt-get everything
[12:17] <abloylas> i've had no apparent problems with the default adept
[12:17] <tk> west-en: did you intsall fuse?
[12:17] <abloylas> some think it stinks for some reason though
[12:18] <west-en> tk: no wich package?
[12:18] <fritsch> west-en: the is an easier way: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[12:18] <west-en> i searched toughed adept and installed what i found
[12:18] <abloylas> apt-get is no good for browsing packages, which i like doing
[12:19] <oomph> that is true
[12:19] <oomph> i sometimes do an apt-cache search
[12:19] <oomph> for keywords on stuff i know of
[12:19] <abloylas> well, i like gui
[12:19] <tk> west-en: http://ubuntuos.wordpress.com/2006/08/02/howto-write-to-windows-ntfs-drive-from-ubuntu-ntfs-3g/
[12:20] <lht> hehe
[12:20] <fritsch> tk: it`s the same as above
[12:20] <fritsch> tk: but the ubuntu forum on is "the original"?
[12:21] <tk> i got a server not found when I tried the above so I did a quick google
[12:21] <fritsch> tk: okay
[12:21] <fritsch> tk: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009 that`s odd
[12:21] <tk> fritsch: ohh I didnt see your link, my bad :P
[12:21] <abloylas> also, is there a nice way to get firefox to be default in all apps in kubuntu? i'm not used to konqueror
[12:21] <fritsch> tk: okay, no problem
[12:22] <fritsch> tk: seems to be very easy
[12:22] <tk> but yah, ubuntuforums.org came up no server a bit ago :/
[12:22] <fritsch> abloylas: yes
[12:22] <west-en> fritch: THANKS!
[12:22] <tk> now its working
[12:22] <fritsch> abloylas: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[12:22] <abloylas> e.g. klicking in thunderbird and not getting konqueror. how?
[12:23] <waspius> hello...these last days i have been instaling and uninstalling different things and now my desktop is going really slowly..how can i fix it?
[12:23] <abloylas> fritsch: what does that do exactly?
[12:23] <fritsch> abloylas: you can also change it for "only" kde settings
[12:23] <fritsch> abloylas: it changes your "default" www browser system wide
[12:23] <abloylas> fritsch: thanks, i'll give it a shot
[12:24] <fritsch> abloylas: other way: [KDE icon]  -> System Settings -> KDE Components -> Standard ...
[12:24] <Kiongku_> waspius: do a find and see if there is no resiudal left :p
[12:24] <fritsch> abloylas: but this is "kde" specific the other one is system wide
[12:25] <stripey> lo
[12:25] <abloylas> i dont have gnome or anything installed
[12:25] <abloylas> i just use kde
[12:25] <waspius> Kiongku_: how do i do that?
[12:25] <abloylas> what else could "system wide? mean?
[12:25] <fritsch> abloylas: for example if you use "blackbox" window manager
[12:26] <Kiongku_> waspius: dunno.. just look if for the name of programs u installed.. may be there are some folders left
[12:26] <Kiongku_> but really.. how can ur desktop get that slow?
[12:26] <marcus__> if i type apt-get install gnome will that give me the files to have gnome as a window manager?
[12:26] <fritsch> abloylas: and open a "http" link, or you use gaim in kde and click http link
[12:26] <fritsch> abloylas: this programm don`t cope with kde settings, so system wide is the way here
[12:27] <abloylas> I'll try sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser, just a minute
[12:27] <west-en> does ntfs-3g automatically mount ntfs-drives as ntfs-3g in the boot?
[12:28] <grothesk_> west-en: Only when you edit your fstab that way.
[12:28] <tk> it tells you how at the end of that how-to
[12:28] <west-en> ok how should I edit it then?
[12:31] <stripey> why can't I get Adept to look at teh internet?
[12:32] <stripey> I've enabled a couple of repositories, but it just doesn't seem to look for tehm
[12:32] <ketsugi> I'm trying to upgrade to KDE 3.5.4 by using the Kubuntu repos, and Adept wants to remove kdebase-bin
[12:32] <ketsugi> This seems to be a bad idea to me...
[12:33] <abloylas> fritsch: thanks, the default browser seems to be ok now, thanks a bunch
[12:33] <jorik> heh i remember trying to upgrade kde once ... completely broke everything, it took me hours to get it up and running
[12:33] <jorik> and then when it finally worked i didn't even notice that much of a diffrence
[12:34] <jorik> ever since then i decided to always just stick to the repo's ;-)
[12:34] <stripey> be alright if I could get adept to look at teh repos
[12:35] <stripey> it just seemingly refuses to do so
[12:35] <stripey> any ideas anyone?
[12:35] <abloylas> could there possibly be a way of seing what user or program edited xorg.conf the last time?
[12:36] <abloylas> or ever?
[12:36] <abloylas> a log?
[12:37] <Kiongku_> stripey: what did u enable?.. and did u make sure u had internet connection
[12:38] <Kiongku_> abloylas: whathappens to xorg.conf o0
[12:38] <abloylas> o0?
[12:38] <abloylas> don't understand
[12:38] <waspius> can anyone help??
[12:39] <jujimufu> waspius: what's your problem?
[12:39] <Kiongku_> abloylas: what happens to ur xorg.conf..
[12:39] <Kiongku_> jujimufu: his desktop gets slow he says
[12:39] <abloylas> well. something keeps messing it up from time to time
[12:39] <abloylas> no ide what
[12:39] <abloylas> reverting to older version fixes it
[12:39] <Kiongku_> abloylas: u must have changed a setting
[12:39] <abloylas> it looses resolution settings
[12:39] <Kiongku_> abloylas: ah?
[12:39] <waspius> jujimufu: during the past days i have been installing and uninstalling programs and desktop managers...and now my desktop is going really slowly
[12:40] <jujimufu> waspius: checked the forums for similar problems?
[12:40] <Kiongku_> waspius: desktop managers O_O... may be here is the answer..
[12:40] <Kiongku_> waspius: u messd up the desktop managers :p
[12:40] <Kiongku_> waspius: may be..
[12:40] <abloylas> Kiongku_: i really don't think i did anything special myself, it's happened twice now
[12:41] <waspius> Kiongku_: if it is that how can i fix it
[12:41] <Kiongku_> abloylas: .. with kde 3.5.4?
[12:41] <Sakirious> hoi
[12:41] <Kiongku_> waspius: by slow what do u mean.. slow response?
[12:42] <abloylas> Kiongku_: i believe so
[12:42] <waspius> Kiongku_: yes...until an application opens it takes more time then usual
[12:42] <abloylas> how do i see?
[12:42] <Sakirious> I have a quick question...I'm new to Kubuntu(I usually use Slackware or SLAMD64) and I seem to have a problem playing my media, namely music...
[12:43] <waspius> Sakirious: what exactly is your problem?
[12:43] <abloylas> Sakirious: try automatix
[12:43] <Kiongku_> waspius: hmm.. its hard to say when u dunt have it in front of u.. the problem is too vague
[12:43] <oomph> anyone here try pclinuxos?
[12:43] <waspius> Kiongku_: mmm..so is there anything i can do?
[12:43] <utab> hey guys
[12:43] <abloylas> brb
[12:44] <utab> I have made fresh install of kubuntu but I have problems with update again
[12:44] <Sakirious> Well, it finds my mp3s and inserts them into the library, and I can add them to the playlist, but when I goto play it acts like the file is not there, i.e. it says its playing it for about half a second with no sound, then moves to the next song and does it all over again.
[12:44] <oomph> its actually not a bad distro
[12:44] <Kiongku_> waspius: i really have no idea from here.. sorry. its impossible to evaluate when u dunt what changes u did to the system. May be another person can advise u more on this later
[12:44] <Kiongku_> *konw
[12:44] <Kiongku_> *know >>"
[12:45] <waspius> Kiongku_: can i use the cd i have and install over it so that maybe the problems are fixed?but withut formating it?
[12:45] <Kiongku_> waspius: personally i dunt think it will solve ur prob.. at least from my opinion
[12:45] <DralaFi> Where's the kubuntu installer log file?
[12:46] <Sakirious> >_>
[12:46] <Kiongku_> waspius: what program does slow down?
[12:46] <utab> is there someone to help me about the updates
[12:46] <Sakirious> utab: whats it doing when you try to update?
[12:46] <waspius> Kiongku_: all :)everything i do..even if  i try to open kcontrol, adept,konversation
[12:46] <Kiongku_> waspius: lol
[12:47] <Sakirious> Oh, I forgot to add about my problem, system sounds work just find
[12:47] <Sakirious> fine*
[12:47] <utab> Sakirious , this is a fresh install but some files could no be fetched if you prefer to have a look at that I may put that in the pastebin
[12:48] <Kiongku_> waspius: http://www.kde-apps.org/poll/index.php?poll=130 interesting thread :P.. seems over ppl complaining to
[12:48] <waspius> Kiongku_: thanx allot
[12:49] <abloylas> bak
[12:52] <utab> Sakirious: are you with me
[12:52] <waspius> Kiongku: ok i am going to format and make a new installation...do u know if there is a way after i have done so to make a cd that i will act as a recovery one so that if something goes wrong i will always beable to turn back without needing to format?
[12:52] <Kiongku> Sakirious: yo u here? need help?
[12:53] <Kiongku> waspius: nope.. myself i'm trying to find a good backup method :))
[12:53] <waspius> :)
[12:53] <Kiongku> waspius: the back up methods i found invovle simply saving them in .tar.bz2 formats (  ' ') but oh well
[12:55] <DralaFi> abattoir, I can't find the install log file, /var/log/ only has standard log files as well as aptitude and dpkg log files. Are those the correct ones?
[12:57] <marcus__> hmmmmmm
[12:59] <DralaFi> If I install kubuntu 5.10, will i be able to upgrade to the next release?
[12:59] <Sakirious> erm yea
[01:00] <Sakirious> sorry my friend was playing halo
[01:00] <tk> would make upgrades pointless otherwise :)
[01:00] <DralaFi> :D
[01:01] <Kiongku> Sakirious: lol
[01:01] <DralaFi> ok, could I tell it to use some packages from the kubuntu 6.06 CD instead of grabbing it from the internet?
[01:01] <Kiongku> DralaFI: did u add ur cd as a repo?
[01:03] <DralaFi> Kiongku, no. I don't have linux on the laptop yet. Was trying to install kubuntu 6.06.1 but it kept crashing. Thinking of trying kubuntu 5.10 then doing the upgrade using partly the 6.06 CD and partly the internet.
[01:03] <Kiongku> DralaFi: crashing??.. did u do a cd check for defects?
[01:04] <DralaFi> Kiongku, yes. CD check was fine.
[01:04] <Kiongku> DralaFi: its not supposed to crash.. at least i installed a fresh copy of 6.06.1 and install went fine
[01:04] <tk> anyone know the ascii code for "a" off the top? 65? or something like that?
[01:04] <Kiongku> DralaFi: what happen?
[01:04] <DralaFi> I tried the desktop installer as well as the alternative iso
[01:04] <tk> 97
[01:04] <Kiongku> tk: geez how u want me remember something like this :P
[01:04] <tk> nm :)
[01:04] <Kiongku> DralaFi: whats the error?
[01:05] <tk> Kiongku: I was close, 65 is 'A' :P
[01:05] <DralaFi> what I said earlier:  " there it is again.... 50-something percent and the screen goes blank"
[01:05] <Kiongku> tk: haha
[01:05] <Kiongku> DralaFi: hmm 50%.. i wonder what staged it reached..
[01:05] <DralaFi> the screen goes bloang, with a few gray bits as if the mouse was moved (mouse pointer on the screen - gpm?) and I can't change ttys.
[01:06] <Kiongku> tk: i use sysreset with mIRC so.. did not learn anything from mIRC
[01:06] <DralaFi> "Select and install software" screen is at 50-something%....
[01:06] <Kiongku> DralaFi: well u can still try upgrade from 5.10
[01:06] <DralaFi> s/bloang/blank/    :)
[01:06] <DralaFi> yes i'll try that next
[01:06] <Kiongku> isntall 5.10, enable repos from cd of 6.06.1 and try to update.. otherwise sorry i'ms tuck too
[01:07] <DralaFi> any ideas where the installer logfile is kept?
[01:07] <ketsugi> Guys, I'm trying to upgrade to KDE 3.5.4 via the Kubuntu repos, and Adept wants to remove the kdelibs-bin package. Can I confirm that this is a Bad Idea?
[01:07] <Kiongku> DralaFi: no idea.. i'm rather new to linux too..  i just know some basics from the trial error i passed through =)
[01:08] <DralaFi> Kiongku, ok :) thanks
[01:08] <Kiongku> ketsugi: hmm?.. i upgrade to kde via adept and had no prob.. dunno if urs is different
[01:09] <ketsugi> Strangely, if I force Adept to install and upgrade that package, it wants to remove kdebase-dev instead. I guess there must be a conflict somewhere.
[01:09] <Kiongku> ketsugi: for ur info.. i dunt have kdelibs-bin installed and my system is fine
[01:10] <Kiongku> ketsugi: ... well  thats my system i dunno urs :p
[01:10] <ketsugi> Huh.
[01:10] <grothesk_> ketsugi: That package ist not required anymore.
[01:10] <DralaFi> I just try it with acpi=off
[01:11] <ketsugi> Oh? Okay then.
[01:11] <ketsugi> Thanks for the info
[01:11] <grothesk_> Just let the package manager do its work.
[01:11] <Kiongku> DralaFi: ok
[01:12] <Kiongku> ketsugi: ya.. normally the package manager should know whats its doing.. its not here to destroy ur system lol
[01:12] <ketsugi> hehe I hope not!
[01:12] <ketsugi> But doesn't hurt to be sure, since it looked like an important package
[01:14] <Kiongku> ketsugi: ... unless i'm the one compiling. i dunt care what package manager do.. well till now its runnign fine =))
[01:14] <Sakirious> Alright, I'm sorry about before
[01:14] <DralaFi> i've switched to the other tty now so i can see debug messages and OOPSes
[01:15] <Kiongku> Sakirious: ???
[01:15] <Kiongku> DralaFi: no idea what ur talking.. but i'm happy if its good again for ya :)
[01:15] <Sakirious> But, like I said, it plays system sounds, but my multimedia programs won't play them
[01:16] <Sakirious> So it isn't a hardware installation error
[01:17] <Kiongku> Sakirious: one question.. did u install libxine_extracodecs?
[01:21] <ketsugi> Is it possible to set what style is used for apps that are run as root?
[01:23] <Kiongku> ketsugi: hmm?.. in systemn settings?.. dunno
[01:23] <myzer> Afternoon
[01:29] <Sakirious> Kiongku, let me check that real quick
[01:30] <Sakirious> Yes they were installed
[01:30] <Kiongku> hmm
[01:30] <Kiongku> Sakirious: u were not supposed to have probs
[01:33] <DralaFi> doh
[01:33] <DralaFi> saw a bit of my error
[01:33] <tk> heh
[01:33] <DralaFi> something like "obsolete TITLE blah server blah"
[01:33] <DralaFi> :(
[01:33] <abattoir> DralaFi: sorry, was away...
[01:33] <DralaFi> now the screen is blank again :(
[01:34] <DralaFi> x server maybe, not sure. it went by very fast
[01:34] <abattoir> you are installing breezy?
[01:34] <DralaFi> dapper
[01:34] <DralaFi> is there a ssh server running from the installer? i could try logging on and seeing if its still running.
[01:35] <abattoir> DralaFi: i dont see where X comes into the picture...
[01:35] <DralaFi> it's responding to pings, so at least the kernel is running
[01:35] <DralaFi> abattoir, same here
[01:35] <abattoir> DralaFi: the text installer doesnt use X... and inst it the one which stops
[01:35] <abattoir> *isn't
[01:35] <abattoir> ?
[01:36] <abattoir> DralaFi: any idea which package was being installed?
[01:36] <DralaFi> yes, running the text installer, and yes it crashes/stops working :(
[01:36] <DralaFi> no. i think it finished installing. It went past at least 59%
[01:37] <DralaFi> it's just sittng there. the HDD/cd light is periodically flashing. can't switch ttys. no ssh running. :(
[01:37] <Sakirious> I don't believe you are ever supposed to have errors
[01:37] <Sakirious> they just happen xD
[01:38] <DralaFi> yah :(
[01:39] <DralaFi> any way to login to it over network? it's not running telnet nor sshd
[01:39] <abattoir> DralaFi: it finished installing? was the bootloader installed?
[01:39] <marcus__> what is the command to run basiisk?
[01:39] <DralaFi> abattoir, not sure if it finished installing. It doesn't install the bootloader yet, afaik.
[01:40] <abattoir> DralaFi: it'd definitely be useful to see which package was being installed/setup or what the installer actually was doing... before the freeze
[01:41] <DralaFi> but even if it was an X11 issue, it shouldnt be since I can run the desktop live Cd totally fine...
[01:41] <DralaFi> abattoir, the only thing i can think of is getting syslogd to send messages to this host and then see... but not sure how to do that.
[01:41] <boss> hy
[01:41] <abattoir> DralaFi: and the breezy text installer has worked fine for you?
[01:41] <boss> all
[01:42] <abattoir> DralaFi: did you check for error messages in /var/log/installer/syslog?
[01:42] <DralaFi> abattoir, breezy worked fine on this box (desktop). I'm trying to install dapper on a laptop.
[01:42] <DralaFi> abattoir, i tail'ed that file. was watching it, and that's where i saw that message, but it went fast....
[01:43] <Sakirious> Maybe the mp3 decoder is having error
[01:43] <Sakirious> ?
[01:43] <Sakirious> on my problem
[01:43] <Sakirious> >_>
[01:43] <abattoir> DralaFi: it might still be in the target partition
[01:43] <DralaFi> i checked before...
[01:43] <DralaFi> DralaFi abattoir, I can't find the install log file, /var/log/ only has standard log files as well as aptitude and dpkg log files. Are those the correct ones?
[01:44] <abattoir> DralaFi: you dont see the install folder?
[01:44] <Pensacola> does anyone here use Firefox?
[01:44] <abattoir> 'install'
[01:44] <boss> yes me
[01:44] <Sakirious> Yesh! I got XMMS to play, lets see about amarrok
[01:44] <Sakirious> I use FireFox
[01:44] <Pensacola> can you send me a screenshot of the menus?
[01:44] <Pensacola> because I can't seem to change the menu style :s
[01:44] <Sakirious> :(
[01:45] <Sakirious> amaroK isn't wanting to be friendly
[01:45] <abattoir> Sakirious: what's the issue?
[01:45] <Sakirious> .mp3s will not play
[01:45] <Sakirious> Well, now they'll play, just not in amaroK
[01:45] <abattoir> Sakirious: do you have 'libxine-extracodecs' installed?
[01:45] <jorik> Sakirious: try the xine engine
[01:46] <DralaFi> abattoir, no there's no /var/log/installer/
[01:46] <Sakirious> Yeah, xine is installed already
[01:46] <DralaFi> no install/
[01:46] <Sakirious> Does xmms use the xine engine?
[01:46] <abattoir> DralaFi: so it was removed after the installation process?(because i thought you were 'tail'ing it)
[01:47] <abattoir> Sakirious: 'libxine-extracodecs'
[01:47] <abattoir> Sakirious: and no, xmms doesnt use an 'engine' system, and its backend is not xine
[01:47] <DralaFi> abattoir, i was tailing the copy that's in the ramdisk, not the installed copy.
[01:47] <DralaFi> oh
[01:47] <DralaFi> i was tailing /var/log/messages from the ramdisk
[01:48] <abattoir> !mp3 > Sakirious
[01:48] <abattoir> Sakirious: those links should be useful
[01:49] <Sakirious> Thanks
[01:50] <abattoir> DralaFi: ok...
[01:50] <DralaFi> i'm so confused
[01:51] <DralaFi> i'm about to try breezy
[01:52] <DralaFi> never had this much trouble installing slackware :/
[01:53] <utab_> I have made a backup of all the system but is that possible now to get only the home directory
[01:54] <Sakirious> yesh!
[01:54] <Sakirious> fixed it
[01:54] <vursitis> would anyone in here know of a remote monitering program besides ssh?
[01:55] <DralaFi> ssh is a monitoring application??
[01:55] <vursitis> well if altered it can be
[01:55] <kevin> hello, anyone here use xgl+compiz+cgwd under kubuntu?
[01:55] <stray_77> kaboodle
[01:55] <Sakirious> I thank you abattoir, and Kio
[01:55] <vursitis> and its not intuitive, you can just see everything thats going on in the konsole
[01:55] <utab_> After a full backup is that possible to retrieve only the home
[01:56] <stray_77> vursitis, check out http://www.kaboodle.org/
[01:56] <vursitis> ok
[01:57] <utab_> this retrievel will be done from backup.tar.gz
[01:58] <vursitis> thats intresting but not nessicarily what i was looking for
[01:59] <DralaFi> utab_, tar might have some option to recover only some files
[01:59] <vursitis> anything else, actualy let me specify, i want compleate controll over a remote computer
[01:59] <stray_77> thats what vnc is for
[01:59] <DralaFi> might work if you tell it to recover home/your_user_name/  and it might recover a recursive dir of your home/
[01:59] <utab_> DralaFi, thx I will check that
[02:00] <kevin> hello, anyone here use xgl+compiz+cgwd under kubuntu? How to setup the fonts cgwd used?
[02:00] <domin> hello all
[02:00] <vursitis> possible cross platform if that is an option
[02:00] <stray_77> it is
[02:01] <jorik> vursitis: well thats kinda what ssh does, no ? gives you a remote shell = complete control. If you can't work the command line you can use vnc (which is basically a remote X session)
[02:01] <vursitis> im running a laptop but i will be needing to access my desktop at home... and there might be a few people i need to screw over from time to time.... but thats not the point
[02:01] <waspius> anyone know a program to mount iso images without needing to burn them on a cd?
[02:01] <domin> siemanko, sluchajcie szukam kogos kto sie bawil kompilka jadra na drake'u
[02:01] <DralaFi> waspius, mount
[02:01] <vursitis> well, it gives you remote access from your internal network, i need somthing where i can access my computer from india if needed
[02:02] <jorik> euhm
[02:02] <jorik> dude, seriously, read the manual
[02:02] <tsrwedge> when using the AMD64 boot DVD (on an AMD64 proc), the DVD goes through the startup checklist, switches to a terminal-type screen breifly, then display the Kubuntu logo on the screen with a dark blue bar underneath and stalls
[02:02] <DralaFi> vnc + ssh :)
[02:02] <vursitis> vnc hm...
[02:03] <tsrwedge> using the troubleshooting options in the DVD's help don't help; any ideas?
[02:03] <domin> hey, lesen :) I looking 4 someone who can tell me how can I compile  my drake core. I red that it is a 'menuconfig' command but my terminal console don't know that command
[02:03] <vursitis> vnc allowes cross platform access?
[02:04] <stray_77> yes
[02:04] <stray_77> im using it right now
[02:04] <jujimufu> domin: what are you trying to do exactly?
[02:04] <domin> i trying to compile my drake
[02:04] <jorik> domin: menuconfig is a target in a Makefile (usually in /usr/src/linux) you need to type make menuconfig (while in the dir of the kernel sources)
[02:05] <domin> hmm ok, but the console don't know make command
[02:05] <domin> :)
[02:05] <domin> that's the problem
[02:05] <domin> maybe i should to install breezy badger distr.
[02:06] <domin> maybe this 6.06 is not completed
[02:06] <jorik> domin: domin: no you just need to install make ... but i don't think it's a good idea messing with your kernel if you don't know what you're doing (no offens)
[02:06] <Phreakys> hello
[02:06] <ketsugi> Hm, Kopete doesn't seem to like playing WAV files for notifications
[02:06] <ketsugi> I hit the Play preview button but I don't hear anything :/
[02:08] <domin> you right
[02:08] <domin> but dont' you think that the first think you should do after install is to compile the core ?
[02:09] <DralaFi> http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html   <--- is there a tar of this or should I just wget it?
[02:10] <stray_77> isnt it on the cd?
[02:10] <Phreakys> im trying to get compiz/xgl working, but i cant find a good tutorial that works with ati/kubuntu kde
[02:11] <domin> i'll try to download make via apt-get
[02:11] <Phreakys> they are all quite vague
[02:11] <GenghisKhan> domin: nowadays it isn't necessary. just install the precompiled kernel which suits your machine best
[02:11] <archangel_> how can I play .ram files?
[02:11] <vursitis> domin: I don't think its a good idea to be in an online chat program if you don't know how to spell (no offence)
[02:11] <archangel_> what do I need?
[02:11] <DralaFi> stray_77, no idea
[02:11] <vursitis> hehe
[02:11] <domin> i learn :)
[02:12] <vursitis> just messing around
[02:13] <vursitis> woops, that was to jorik...
[02:13] <vursitis> crap
[02:13] <vursitis> i know i set myself up for somthing there
[02:13] <tsrwedge> having issues booting from DVD
[02:14] <tsrwedge> help items on the DVD don't solve the issue
[02:15] <tsrwedge> is there a page that may have more complete help than on the boot menu of the CD?
[02:16] <vursitis> clear
[02:16] <Phreakys> kubuntu wont boot into kde anymore. it returns to the blue kubuntu screen after initiating and stays there
[02:16] <Phreakys> wtf is wrong
[02:17] <vursitis> woops... that was supposed to be in the terminal
[02:17] <vursitis> try reinstalling kde
[02:17] <vursitis> simplest way to do that
[02:18] <Phreakys> hm
[02:18] <tsrwedge> vursitis, any ideas how to solve that problem when booting straight from the CD?
[02:18] <DralaFi> Phreakys, try moving your ~/.kde/ to some other place, kde will recreate a new ~/.kde/
[02:18] <vursitis> ummm.... make a new CD?
[02:19] <Phreakys> i think compiz/xgl is screwing the boot
[02:19] <archdrone> i want to format my dvd-ram disc but k3b says its not dvd-rw, strange...how can i force the dvd ram disc to work correctly?
[02:19] <Phreakys> followed a dozen tutors to fix it. all in a different way i guess
[02:19] <tsrwedge> eh, I checked the integrity of the CD already
[02:20] <archdrone> *it is dvd-rw
[02:20] <vursitis> ok is it ram or rw because those are two compleatly diffrent formats
[02:20] <vursitis> one of which never took off
[02:21] <archdrone> vursitis: its ram, k3b detects it as ram but complies about its not rw
[02:22] <waspius> can someone guide me through the mount iso process as it does not work mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /path/to/mount/point
[02:22] <vursitis> its because its not... ram is a compleatly diffrent format usualy used in those dvd video cameras, alot of computers are not compatable with that format
[02:22] <archdrone> then i'd like to mount it for r/w, like floppy
[02:23] <vursitis> well again like i said, if your computer is not compatible with it, it probaly will not be able to even mount it
[02:23] <vursitis> kinda like trying to mount an external media device in linux that is ntfs...
[02:24] <vursitis> just not compatible
[02:24] <vursitis> that all depends on your cd drive though
[02:25] <DralaFi> yay i got breezy installed!
[02:25] <DralaFi> now, how does one upgrade to newer verison? I can't find much in the docs about it/.
[02:26] <vursitis> why would you want to roll back your kernal?
[02:26] <dako> Can someone help me with missing text for my folders
[02:26] <vursitis> should be able to upgrade through synaptics
[02:28] <DralaFi_laptop> yay
[02:28] <DralaFi> :)
[02:28] <vursitis> did it work?
[02:29] <DralaFi_laptop> So do I just go to Adept -> Full Upgrade?
[02:29] <DralaFi_laptop> yeah, breezy did
[02:29] <vursitis> yeah if your using adept just hit full upgrade, it should auto upgrade the kernal
[02:29] <DralaFi_laptop> How do I add my dapper CD as a repository?
[02:30] <vursitis> what do you need to pull off of it?
[02:30] <DralaFi_laptop> everything :)
[02:30] <vursitis> lol, again adept should auto upgrade everything
[02:30] <DralaFi_laptop> not everyone has uncapped internet access :/
[02:31] <vursitis> ah... ummmm, hmmmm
[02:31] <vursitis> well im assuming the dapper CD is a live one correct?
[02:31] <DralaFi> yes
[02:31] <vursitis> ok there should be an option when you boot from it to upgrade your system
[02:32] <archangel_> there is a live cd and a install cd only
[02:32] <DralaFi> yes but the installers on both of those crash...
[02:32] <vursitis> yeah... thats a problem
[02:33] <archangel_> did you check your hardware compatibility?
[02:33] <vursitis> archangel would you know how to add your CD as a repository in adept? because i dont think that can be done, but if so prove me wrong
[02:34] <DralaFi> archangel_, I can boot the livecd fine. if there was an incompatibility, surely I'd not be able to boot the livecd in the first place.
[02:34] <archangel_> if you could, I think you would have to 'lift the hood' to make it work
[02:35] <DralaFi> there's a respos called   cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ Release i386 (20051012)] /
[02:35] <archangel_> DralaFi: well, yes and no, it could depend on how long you were running the session
[02:36] <imbrandon> use "sudo apt-cdrom"
[02:36] <imbrandon> easy ;)
[02:38] <archangel_> I was running a linux distro fine and dandy, but after about 15 to 30 minutes later was when I started having problems
[02:38] <DralaFi> imbrandon, thank you :) I have the cd in the repos now
[02:38] <imbrandon> DralaFi your welcome
[02:38] <DralaFi> archangel_, i was running ubuntu and kubunto live cd for a lot longer than that
[02:39] <vursitis_> im back my apologies
[02:39] <archangel_> DralaFi: you got me dude
[02:40] <DralaFi> only 214 packages to upgrade...
[02:41] <vursitis_> DralaFi: why exactly can you not download the packages from adept?
[02:41] <DralaFi> well i think i am...
[02:41] <DralaFi> but wont it be hundreds of megabytes?
[02:41] <DralaFi> like over 1Gb or something?
[02:41] <vursitis_> what kind of connection do you have?
[02:42] <vursitis_> and no not quite that much
[02:42] <DralaFi> adsl
[02:42] <vursitis_> you should be fine
[02:42] <DralaFi> we have a limit and i had to get about 1.5gb yesterday to get kubuntu...
[02:42] <vursitis_> its really not that much to download you would be suprised
[02:43] <vursitis_> you have a limit on how much you can download?
[02:43] <DralaFi> it's only getting stuff from the internet so far... is it going to use the cdrom at all??
[02:43] <DralaFi> yes, a limit :(
[02:43] <vursitis_> where are you located?
[02:43] <vursitis_> just for future refrence so i never make the mistake of going there
[02:43] <vursitis_> no offence... but i couldnt live that way
[02:43] <DralaFi> lol
[02:44] <DralaFi> the UK... also known as the land where Nineteen Eighty Four is set
[02:44] <vursitis_> ah, and they limit your download ammount to?
[02:44] <DralaFi> sum(upload + download) per month
[02:45] <vursitis_> which is equal to?
[02:45] <DralaFi> 15Gb i think
[02:45] <vursitis_> jesus christ...
[02:45] <vursitis_> i think i would break that limit.... every hour
[02:45] <DralaFi> :D
[02:45] <DralaFi> yeah
[02:45] <archangel_> wow
[02:45] <vursitis_> i have a 13mb connection
[02:46] <DralaFi> well there are other isp's that will have a better limit or no limit at all.. but my parents want to stay with this provider so not much I can do about it really.
[02:46] <archangel_> do yo have cable connection there?
[02:46] <vursitis_> ah, ok well no the updates do not take up gigabytes of information
[02:47] <DralaFi> so far it's grabbing from security.ubuntu.com :)
[02:47] <DralaFi> i think there is some cable service, archangel_
[02:47] <archangel_> ahh
[02:48] <archangel_> life would end with no cable modem
[02:48] <DralaFi> cable isn't that great
[02:48] <vursitis_> my friend when you move out of your parents house come to the states... we have no download limits
[02:48] <vursitis_> we also have no leaders with common sence... but thats not the point
[02:48] <DralaFi> lol
[02:49] <archangel_> I own a duplex, so when you come to the states, I have a place for you!       :o)
[02:49] <vursitis_> cable my friend cable lets focus on the important issues
[02:50] <DralaFi> when I was at uni, we had 10mbit ethernet in our rooms - that felt great :)
[02:50] <waspius> can someone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21203
[02:51] <waspius> i am trying to mount an iso image but i cannot
[02:51] <vursitis_> wether or not our leaders can tie their own shoes, and wether or not we can come out of national debt is not the point, the issue is download limits, and their are none here, so come to the states
[02:52] <vursitis_> but untill then like i said, the downloads shouldn't take up much space... and if they do... can you try using a proxy or somthing?
[02:52] <vursitis_> or have they thought past that?
[02:53] <DralaFi_laptop> waspius@Killer313:~$ sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop,ro /home/waspius/Desktop/kubuntu-debian-linux/Warcraft\ III\ and\ The Frozen Throne [Disk 1] .iso.iso /mnt/iso-1
[02:53] <g-henna> hi everyone
[02:53] <g-henna> two questions: 1. how do i get the "checking all disks" out of the boot process?
[02:53] <vursitis_> waite a minute...
[02:54] <vursitis_> do you guys have internet cafe's there?
[02:54] <g-henna> 2. why can i press ctrl+C during boot and get into a root shell??
[02:54] <waspius> DralaFi_laptop: the same thing comes out
[02:54] <DralaFi_laptop> vursitis_: well i'm not too bothered, but since I have the Cd here and it's in the repos, I might as well save on some bandwidth limit and install some stuff from the CD
[02:54] <vursitis_> again like i said... do you have internet cafe's in the UK
[02:55] <vursitis_> cause you are on a laptop... i mean it is possible to leach off someone elses bandwith...
[02:55] <vursitis_> if it has built in wireless
[02:55] <archangel_> good thinking
[02:55] <DralaFi_laptop> waspius: make sure the loopback block device driver is loaded
[02:56] <waspius> DralaFi_laptop: what does that mena
[02:56] <waspius> mean
[02:56] <DralaFi_laptop> vursitis_: yeah you have internet cafes. and you can get access to unprotected AP i think.
[02:56] <vursitis_> then use their bandwith...
[02:57] <DralaFi_laptop> waspius: you can only use -o loop if you have the driver loaded. try sudo modprobe loop
[02:57] <DralaFi_laptop> vursitis_: I live in a village..... :D
[02:57] <DralaFi> no internet cafes nearby
[02:57] <vursitis_> nevermind
[02:58] <DralaFi> :)
[02:58] <waspius> DralaFi_laptop: ok done that..but still will not mount
[02:58] <vursitis_> and again sorry, i have no idea how to add your CD as a repository
[02:58] <DralaFi> well it's a laptop so I can roam around looking for some :)
[02:58] <vursitis_> again that is a great option and you wont have any problems with bandwith limit
[02:58] <g-henna> apt-cdrom add
[02:58] <DralaFi> vursitis_, i added it. just not sure it will use it - it downloaded some stuff already from the internet...
[02:58] <DralaFi> g-henna, I added it, but thanks again :)
[02:59] <vursitis_> btw, do they just charge you more if you download/upload more than 15 gigs, or do they just shut off your internet for the rest of the month?
[02:59] <phreakys> hi
[02:59] <g-henna> DralaFi: if you remove all internet entries from sources.list or added the cdrom after the last apt-get update, it will use the cdrom
[02:59] <phreakys> i just tried to install newest fglrx drivers, but now it's all mesa instead of ati :S
[02:59] <DralaFi> oh bummer...
[02:59] <phreakys> anyone has a disaster tutorial
[02:59] <phreakys> ?
[02:59] <DralaFi> it's been updating from the breezy repository..
[03:00] <vursitis_> oooo, thats kind of a kick in the balls
[03:00] <DralaFi> vursitis_, charge you more afaik
[03:00] <vursitis_> ah
[03:00] <DralaFi> yeah :/
[03:00] <DralaFi> g-henna, thanks. I'll do that. didn't think to do that before :/
[03:00] <g-henna> remove ftp entries, apt-get update and then apt-get install sth
[03:01] <DralaFi> sth?
[03:02] <DralaFi> its installing stuff now
[03:02] <DralaFi> i can smell chocolate :O
[03:02] <DralaFi> brb
[03:02] <nova> sono appena passato a kubuntu da windows , ma ho dei problemi a configurare la posta con alice qualcuno puo' aiutarmi
[03:03] <vursitis_> english
[03:03] <nova> no
[03:03] <vursitis_> kubuntu-sp
[03:04] <nova> no english yes italy
[03:04] <stray_77> join #kubuntu-sp
[03:04] <vursitis_> italian
[03:05] <isenburk> #kubuntu-sp doesnt exist
[03:05] <g-henna> now can someone tell me how to get rid of kubuntu checking my vfat partition at every boot?
[03:05] <vursitis_> i honestly dont know the channel for italian, go to www.kubuntu.org it will tell you
[03:06] <vursitis_> actualy yes i can
[03:06] <vursitis_> hold on one second, its in my handbook here
[03:07] <stray_77> sorry, try #kubuntu-es
[03:07] <stray_77> espaniol
[03:07] <stray_77> i think
[03:07] <vursitis_> he speaks italian
[03:07] <DralaFi> lol
[03:07] <DralaFi> italiano
[03:08] <vursitis_> and ghenna, im looking for it here, there is a way to keep it from checking that partition, bear with me for a second
[03:08] <DralaFi> g-henna, fsck trying to check vfat filesystem?
[03:08] <DralaFi> edit /etc/fstab
[03:08] <stray_77> #kubuntu-it for italian
[03:08] <g-henna> DralaFi: ah, ok :-)
[03:08] <vursitis_> well there is actualy an easier way to do it
[03:08] <DralaFi> If the sixth field
[03:08] <DralaFi>        is not present or zero, a value of zero is returned and fsck will assume that the filesystem does not need to be checked.
[03:09] <g-henna> DralaFi: ok, thx
[03:11] <DralaFi> hmm
[03:11] <DralaFi> any way to find out what kubuntu release i have now?
[03:11] <nova> c' qualcuno che parla italiano che puo' aiutarmi a configurare la posta
[03:11] <Hobbsee> DralaFi: cat /etc/issue
[03:11] <Hobbsee> !it
[03:11] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:11] <DralaFi> like /etc/slackware-repease
[03:11] <Hobbsee> DralaFi: or lsb_release -a iirc
[03:13] <DralaFi> still 5.10 :9
[03:13] <DralaFi> how can i do a totall upgrade from the Cd using apt-get?
[03:14] <vursitis_> sudo apt-get (filepath) possibly?
[03:15] <vursitis_> nope nevermind, disregard that
[03:15] <vursitis_> hm... maybe like jenna said, disable all of your repositories and it will get it from your cd
[03:15] <vursitis_> woops
[03:15] <vursitis_> ghenna
[03:16] <vursitis_> why the hell did i read it like that
[03:16] <Ryoga85[away] > Ich bin ab jetzt [abwesend]  | Grund: [bin mal weg.]  | [20. August 2006, 15:16:20] 
[03:17] <vursitis_> nicht ein duesch
[03:17] <DralaFi_laptop> das ist nicht deutsch channel
[03:17] <vursitis_> nein
[03:17] <DralaFi_laptop> auf english
[03:18] <vursitis_> i dont think thats how you say channel in german though
[03:18] <DralaFi_laptop> apt-get dist-upgrade doesnt seem to do anything :(
[03:18] <vursitis_> and it would be das ist nicht eina deutch (whatever the word for channel is)
[03:19] <DralaFi_laptop> eina? never heard of that one
[03:19] <stray_77> dralafi, mount the cd and enable it in the repositories
[03:19] <DralaFi_laptop> eine maybe
[03:19] <DralaFi_laptop> stray_77: i have
[03:19] <vursitis_> yeah, however you spell that, i know i slaughtered it
[03:19] <vursitis_> i can speak it, but spelling.... HA!
[03:19] <stray_77> sudo apt-get update
[03:20] <stray_77> sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:20] <grisha> hi all
[03:20] <stray_77> then try dist-upgrade
[03:20] <DralaFi_laptop> i have
[03:21] <g-henna> ok, now for my other problem: why is it possible to simply press ctrl+c during boot and get a root console?
[03:21] <g-henna> i want to disable that
[03:21] <DralaFi_laptop> http://rafb.net/paste/results/HZ5baR97.html
[03:21] <waspius> i am using mountiso application but i cannot mount iso files..i get an error that says ERROR: "/home/waspius/Desktop/kubuntu-debian-linux/Warcraft III and The Frozen Throne/Warcraft III - The Frozen Throne [Disk2] .iso" has data error! File might be of wrong type or corrupted.and when i check the iso type i get the message Image file "Warcraft III - The Frozen Throne [Disk2] .iso" is of type "Unknown format"
[03:22] <g-henna> waspius: have you tried mount -o loop ?
[03:22] <fritsch> waspius: try sudo mount -o loop "datei.iso" /media/LALA
[03:22] <g-henna> hi, fritsch :-)
[03:22] <waspius> g-henna: yes but i have not managed to use it
[03:22] <fritsch> g-henna: moin!
[03:23] <fritsch> g-henna: got your modem gone?
[03:23] <g-henna> sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /path
[03:23] <fritsch> g-henna: mine went going, without doing anything
[03:23] <g-henna> fritsch: not so far, just sound was gone...
[03:23] <grisha> Hi I've updated my kernel to 2.6.15-26-686 because of the HT support, but since than I've some problems with supercaramba. Anyone else has the same problem?
[03:23] <grisha> grisha@none-8:~$ khotkeys
[03:23] <grisha> ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed.
[03:23] <fritsch> g-henna: sound is gone, if you load intel8x0m?
[03:23] <waspius> g-henna: i have tried but i have not succeded
[03:23] <g-henna> grisha: what problem? the "some" problem? :-)
[03:23] <g-henna> waspius: error msg?
[03:23] <fritsch> g-henna: sudo apt-get install sl-modem-daemon
[03:24] <grisha> sry, for the last one. I'm not familiar "with Konversation"
[03:24] <g-henna> fritsch: ok, wait for some minute, have to eat sth
[03:24] <grisha> it exits some time.
[03:24] <vursitis_> its what your using
[03:24] <fritsch> g-henna: i have to cook ;-) just got coffee today
[03:26] <waspius> !pastebin
[03:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:26] <grisha> can anyone help me with khotkeys? "ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed."
[03:27] <waspius> g-henna: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21204
[03:28] <grisha> or any idea how to make a snapshot while the K menu is open. PrintScreen just doesn't work as long as the menu is opened
[03:28] <g-henna_afk> waspius: you should escape [, ]  and space more carefully
[03:29] <waspius> g-henna_afk: i dont know what to do
[03:30] <g-henna_afk> sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop,ro "/home/waspius/Desktop/kubuntu-debian-linux/Warcraft III and The Frozen Throne [Disk 1] .iso.iso" /mnt/iso-1
[03:30] <waspius> g-henna_afk: so such file or directory
[03:31] <g-henna_afk> then remove the second .iso
[03:32] <grothesk_> grisha: Use a delay and open kmenu.
[03:32] <waspius> g-henna_afk: the same problem
[03:32] <dec_> hello, I am trying to install a usb optical mouse and it will not work any ideas as to how to do it
[03:32] <g-henna_afk> waspius: then, what the heck, *is* the filename of your iso? either, you escape every occurence of " " or "[" or "] " with a \ or you just include the whole filename in "..."
[03:34] <dec_> hello, I am trying to install a usb optical mouse and it will not work any ideas as to how to do it
[03:34] <intelikey> unplug & replug it ?
[03:35] <waspius> g-henna_afk: same problem
[03:35] <dec_> I tried that and when i looked at the properties it was generic
[03:36] <grisha_> waspius: what's the problem?
[03:36] <intelikey> i can't even get k3b to work.   E. can't talk to klauncher    ++ E. no cd writer detected.
[03:38] <grisha_> intelikey: Have u installed k3b via apt-get?
[03:38] <intelikey> i have
[03:39] <waspius> grisha: i am trying to mount an iso and i cannot
[03:40] <intelikey> k3b doesn't seem to be configurable either
[03:40] <grisha_> inteliky: sudo apt-get install k3b libk3b2-mp3 It should work. What kind of writer do u have?
[03:40] <intelikey> scsi
[03:41] <grisha_> waspius: sudo mkdir /mnt/iso
[03:41] <grisha_> waspius: sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /xxx/xxx/something.iso /mnt/iso
[03:41] <intelikey> cdw works but is perset to 650 m  cd size  kinda wastes 50 m on every disk.
[03:43] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: run k3bsetup ?
[03:43] <intelikey> ttyp0 [root@~]  k3bsetup
[03:43] <intelikey> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[03:43] <intelikey> Xlib: No protocol specified
[03:43] <intelikey> kcmshell: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[03:43] <grisha_> intelikey: u should have access permission of the device files: sudo chmod a+rw /dev/sg*
[03:43] <intelikey> grish_ root has permission.
[03:44] <jorik> ive got a problem in Kmix, only the PCM slider changes the volume, the master slider [the one that pops up when you left click the kmix icon in the panel]  doesnt change anything. How can i get it to work ?
[03:44] <grisha_> intelikey : I see. You still can try other burner apps.
[03:44] <tk> jorik: you on a laptop?
[03:45] <intelikey> that doesn't make this one work   :)
[03:45] <grisha_> jorik: put the PCM slider as default slider
[03:45] <intelikey> what would be the reason for the error "can not talk to klauncher" ?
[03:45] <grisha_> and than u change the PCM volume at tray
[03:45] <jorik> grisha thx !
[03:46] <intelikey> that's where the problem is....
[03:46] <grisha_> right click on icon (at tray) selecting master channel
[03:46] <grisha_> jorik nm
[03:48] <grisha_> jorik: sry, nm is the hungarian short version of "you are welcome".
[03:48] <jorik> hehe
[03:48] <longbean> intelikey: wait. you're trying to run k3bsetup as root?
[03:48] <jorik> what's it stand for ?
[03:49] <intelikey> longbean yes,  loged in as root for that session.
[03:50] <g-henna> waspius: solved?
[03:50] <waspius> grisha_: this is the exact location of the file..how should i write it ?file:///home/waspius/Desktop/kubuntu-debian-linux/Warcraft III and The Frozen Throne/Warcraft III - The Frozen Throne [Disk 1] .iso
[03:50] <longbean> intelikey: logged into X as root?
[03:50] <g-henna> waspius: where do you want to mount it?
[03:50] <grisha_> jorik nm = nincs mit. It means something like "it was nothing" or "not at all" or "you're welcome"
[03:50] <intelikey> longbean is there some wierd setting that wont allow k3b to be ran as root ?
[03:51] <intelikey> longbean yes logged into xorg sfce4 as root.
[03:51] <intelikey> xfce4
[03:51] <waspius> g-henna: i dont mind..i just want it to work
[03:51] <jorik> cool ;)
[03:51] <longbean> intelikey: maybe. i've seen that "connection refused" error before
[03:51] <grisha_> waspius: /home/waspius/Desktop/kubuntu-debian-linux/Warcraft III and The Frozen Throne/Warcraft III - The Frozen Throne [Disk 1] .iso
[03:52] <g-henna> waspius: you have to have a directory where to mount; if that doesn't exist, you cannot. so create a directory and tell us
[03:52] <grisha_> waspius: sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /home/waspius/Desktop/kubuntu-debian-linux/Warcraft III and The Frozen Throne/Warcraft III - The Frozen Throne [Disk 1] .iso /mnt/iso
[03:52] <longbean> intelikey: but only when i log in as a regular user, then su into root in a terminal and try to run a command from there
[03:52] <grisha_> waspius: but:  sudo mkdir /mnt/iso
[03:52] <grisha_> first
[03:52] <longbean> intelikey: if you logged in as root at the GUI Login screen, i don't know
[03:52] <intelikey> longbean hmmm ;/
[03:53] <intelikey> i'll make a user account and try it.  but i have my doubts about that helping anything.
[03:54] <waspius> grisha_: it does not work
[03:54] <g-henna> waspius: sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop "/home/waspius/Desktop/kubuntu-debian-linux/Warcraft III and The Frozen Throne/Warcraft III - The Frozen Throne [Disk 1] .iso" /mnt/iso
[03:54] <ketsugi> Does Konqueror not play well with Gmail?
[03:55] <g-henna> hey waspius, you make me sick. who of us, do you think can handle "it does not work"?? tell us the error message, or we simply cannot do anything!
[03:55] <grisha_> intelikey: do u have gnome too? I had similar issues under fedora 4 with konqueror can not talk to klauncher. If i logged out, logged in to Gnome, logged out and back to KDE the error was solved.
[03:55] <waspius> g-henna: worked..thanx allot!!!!
[03:55] <waspius> g-henna: sorry
[03:55] <intelikey> grisha_ no gnome no kde  only xfce4
[03:56] <alex_> how to send a file in kopete icq???
[03:56] <grisha_> inteliky: oh, I C
[03:56] <intelikey> but k3b is ked specific so i'm on the kde channel grisha_   besides there's nothing generally happening in #xubuntu
[03:57] <grisha_> :)
[03:57] <alex_> how to send a file in kopete icq???
[03:58] <grisha_> alex: right click on the recipient than the lowest menu (vith the name of his/her) and send file
[03:58] <alex_> can sombody help me please?
[03:58] <grisha_> vith=with
[03:59] <tk> alex, I think someone already did....
[03:59] <intelikey> grisha_ alex_  does  /dcc send nickname filename    not work ?
[03:59] <grisha_> alex or click on the recipient than edit menu and send file
[04:00] <grisha_> intelikey he would like to send a file with Kopete and an ICQ acc
[04:00] <intelikey> grisha_ yes  does that command not work there ?
[04:01] <alex_> its without color. i can't click on it
[04:01] <grisha_> intelikey it has no command line.
[04:01] <grisha_> as far as i know
[04:02] <intelikey> so you can't type in messages.  hmmm i have no idea about such things.
[04:02] <grisha_> anyone has KDE newer than 3.5.2?
[04:02] <g-henna> here
[04:03] <grisha_> g-henna: would you try khotkeys if I ask you?
[04:03] <grisha_> inn a terminal
[04:03] <g-henna> ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed.
[04:04] <grisha_> thx
[04:04] <grisha_> than, there is no reason at the moment to update from 3.5.2
[04:04] <grisha_> for me
[04:05] <intelikey> well that error about not being able to talk to klauncher was because of root.  (stupidest damn thing i have ever heard of)   but k3b still can't see any devices  even when i manually select /dev/scd0  it says can't find any device at /dev/scd0        the peace of krap.
[04:05] <cobrat> hello
[04:06] <grisha_> intelikey: try nerolinux. Maybe u get lucky
[04:06] <intelikey> lol
[04:06] <tk> is this like the kippy kan do show where everything klosely resembling a Kay sound begins with a K? :P
[04:06] <tk> bad movie reference :P
[04:07] <intelikey> grisha_ i actually prefer xcdroast  but it doesn't do well at mastering cda
[04:07] <Wendelin> How do I tell find to exclude a certain directory?
[04:07] <cobrat> has anyone here successfully ran boinc projects on a powerpc based system?
[04:07] <intelikey> grisha_ nero not in repos ?
[04:08] <grisha_> intelikey: i used nerolinux cuz' prev. vers. of k3b was unable to write in UDF format.
[04:09] <Ryoga85> Ich bin [zurck]  | Ich war seit [20. August 2006, 15:16:20]  weg (Dauer: [0 Std. 52 Min.] , Grund: [bin mal weg.] ).
[04:09] <intelikey> nero is ok.  but what do you have to do  dl and compile it ?
[04:09] <grisha_> intelikey: http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/NeroLINUX-Download-2506.html
[04:11] <h3sp4wn> k3b is just a frontend to cdrecord - if cdrecord doesn't work k3b won't - if its scsi its just as easy to just use cdrecord directly
[04:12] <intelikey> h3sp4wn yeah.   problem is cdrecord works fine and k3b doesn't do anything usefull
[04:13] <andrew___`> # how do i type this symbol?
[04:13] <tk> shift+3 ?
[04:13] <intelikey> shift 3  on a qwerty kbd
[04:13] <tk> intelikey: what is it on a dvorak? :P
[04:14] <grisha_> AltGr X on a hungarian keyboard. :)
[04:14] <andrew___`> when I type shift-3 this symbol comes out 
[04:15] <tk> andrew___`: try this, hold down alt and type 35 on your numeric pad then let go of alt
[04:16] <intelikey> tk i don't know.
[04:16] <grisha_> tk: what is the layout of your keyboard?
[04:16] <tk> grisha_: its a regular old keyboard with multimedia keys
[04:17] <dr_willis> :)
[04:17] <grisha_> tk: what language layout did u choose when u installed kubuntu?
[04:18] <intelikey> what is that?  you have to register or something to download nero.... i'm not registering.
[04:18] <tk> english, I dont know if that works in Kubuntu, I'm just offering an alternate way that I know to type that symbol
[04:18] <grisha_> intelikey: i didn't register
[04:18] <andrew___`> thnx it worked, I had to turn on the usa english
[04:19] <andrew___`> instead of uk enlish
[04:19] <Tokeiito> !pastebin Tokeiito
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin Tokeiito - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <tk> grisha_: the alt+numeric pad is a way of typing ascii codes
[04:19] <tk> 35 being the ascii code for #
[04:20] <zipper_> !java > zipper_
[04:20] <grisha_> intelikey: ftp://ftp5.usw.nero.com/nerolinux-2.1.0.1-x86.deb
[04:21] <grisha_> tk: yes. It works under some program. But you can't use it is for ex. konsole
[04:21] <tk> grisha_: he didnt say he wanted it in konsole :P
[04:21] <tk> (not that I saw anyways)
[04:22] <DralaFi> yay upgrading to dapper now
[04:22] <intelikey> grisha_ ty.
[04:22] <Tokeiito> geh. can't upload my error to pastebin.com. where i can upload it?
[04:22] <DralaFi> rafb.net/paste/
[04:23] <Tokeiito> thnx
[04:23] <grisha_> intelikey: u can use it for 30 days free, or enter a sn, or buy one.
[04:24] <intelikey> yeah
[04:24] <grisha_> intelikey: is there any short versions of "you are welcome"?  Like "nm" in hungarian? :)
[04:24] <larson9999> intelikey: don't bother.  k3b is much better anyway
[04:24] <tk> grisha_: yw... works :)
[04:24] <larson9999> well, that's what people tell me... that nero is a dog on linux
[04:24] <DralaFi> igen
[04:24] <grisha_> tk: thx
[04:25] <tk> ty = thank you, yw = you're welcome :)
[04:25] <grisha_> ty, I'm learning fast.
[04:25] <larson9999> ty, ilf
[04:26] <DralaFi> lol
[04:26] <larson9999> hm, oadile. kilke. aiugme.
[04:26] <grisha_> rotfl
[04:26] <larson9999> am i cool now?
[04:26] <steveire> tla ftw!!!
[04:27] <larson9999> this is how old i am.  when i started chatting this was on of the most common emoticons: <bg>
[04:27] <grisha_> intelikey: if nero works, I can give you a sn.
[04:27] <tk> larson9999: hehe
[04:28] <zipper_> I just installed sun java using the guide on the wiki, but i still get the "OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE." error. Do i need to reboot in order to get the JRE loaded?
[04:29] <zipper_> the error comes from frostwire btw, forgot to mention that
[04:29] <tk> zipper_: 99% of the time, reboots arent needed in linux
[04:29] <Freddy2> hi
[04:29] <zipper_> i know, but it's a bit wierd the guide doesnt say a thing about what to do
[04:29] <zipper_> i doubt i'm the first to encounter this problem
[04:29] <tk> let me find the guide I used, it worked great
[04:30] <DralaFi> can we not just grab the java's .bin file and install it like we have all this time?
[04:30] <grisha_> zipper: try to install jre via automatix or easyubuntu and you can't make mistakes
[04:30] <dr_willis> Gee i foundit hard to even get those TO install jre.
[04:30] <tk> o wait, that was for 32bit java for 64bit linux nevermind
[04:30] <dr_willis> :)
[04:30] <zipper_> grisha_, i tried through easyubuntu, but it crashes. But i'll give it a go with the nightly build instead, thanks
[04:31] <dr_willis> !java
[04:31] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:31] <grisha_> zipper: use this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper   Do the easyubuntu part and you'll be fine
[04:32] <grisha_> zipper: Do 4.1 and 6.1 (http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper)
[04:34] <DralaFi> ooh i wonder if beagle is in the repositories
[04:34] <zipper_> grisha_, i just installed java with easyUbuntu, but i still get the same error when i try running frostwire. On the java guide though, i found this "Note: Scroll down to "Selecting the default Java version" section to enable the JRE you have installed." - but it doesnt say where to do so
[04:35] <Freddy2> zipper_: and the error that you get is.. ?
[04:35] <dr_willis> check which java you are using by default
[04:35] <dr_willis> with java -version (or was it --version)
[04:35] <zipper_> Freddy2, "OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE."
[04:35] <Freddy2> zipper_: what about having "java" in the PATH and having defined JAVA_HOME?
[04:35] <zipper_> dr_willis, gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0
[04:36] <DralaFi> maybe you need the real JRE
[04:36] <dr_willis> zipper_,  you are usign the GPL java. not the OFFICIAL sun one
[04:36] <dr_willis> this is a common 'issue' ive seen  you need to change the 'alternatives' to use the SUN java
[04:36] <zipper_> dr_willis, i'm quite aware of that. Thats my problem
[04:37] <dr_willis> i forget the command to do so...
[04:37] <dr_willis> update-alternatives -configure java
[04:37] <grisha_> Jeess, I'm starving to death. It's Aug. 20. Every shop is closed, even Tesco and non-stop shops. AAhhh.
[04:37] <dr_willis> i think is the command ya need to use. and select suns java. (or thats how it worked for most people)
[04:37] <Freddy2> considering that jre/jdk from sun doesn't install anything out of its folder you can install (uncrompress/copy to anywhere/set values for vars) it and use it without needing to update apt
[04:37] <zipper_> dr_willis, okay, let me just try that
[04:37] <dr_willis> and ive noticed that easyubuntu, and automatix both seem to miss that step. :)
[04:37] <h3sp4wn> or use java-package (you can get release 7 then)
[04:38] <zipper_> dr_willis, that worked, thank you very much
[04:38] <dr_willis> and  :)
[04:38] <zipper_> have you told the easyubuntu devs about this problem?
[04:38] <dr_willis> this has been asked like 10 times in the last 2 days here
[04:39] <zipper_> i see
[04:39] <dr_willis> zipper_,  i tend to take the DONT use easyubuntu/automatix route
[04:39] <zipper_> havent been online much the last couple of days
[04:39] <dr_willis> java from the apt-get stuff has some other little issues as well.. some of it is suns fault.
[04:39] <dr_willis> like their make eula that dont show up right ulness ya got some other package installed first.
[04:40] <grisha_> :)
[04:40] <dr_willis> im thinking the order ya install the java and some of the dev stuff is causing some issues as well.
[04:40] <zipper_> ok
[04:41] <fritsch> dr_willis: dpkg-reconfigure -plow debconf
[04:41] <dr_willis> , if you want to use Sun Java instead of the open source GIJ you need to set it as default. Run:
[04:41] <dr_willis> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:41] <fritsch> dr_willis: choose dialog, and then it is displayed while installing
[04:41] <dr_willis> is what the wiki page sez.
[04:41] <grisha_> how can i register on freenode? I'd like to send pm.
[04:41] <Freddy2> /msg nickserv help
[04:41] <dr_willis> fritsch,  yea. there was some other package for the x dialog.. :P took me forever to notice what was going on.
[04:41] <grisha_> thx
[04:42] <dimsuz> hi! On every boot I have the following error:
[04:43] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - has ALL this info :P lol..
[04:43] <dimsuz> dosfsck: There are differences between bootsector and its backup (a number of hex strings). Not automatically fixing this.
[04:43] <dimsuz> I guess it's related somehow with my windows fat32 parition, but what does it mean exactly? :)
[04:43] <dimsuz> and how to avoid it?
[04:44] <Ryoga85> it means, there are differences between the boot sector and its backup
[04:44] <dimsuz> Ryoga85: :) yes, but why is that so? :)
[04:44] <Ryoga85> i don't know
[04:44] <dimsuz> :)
[04:45] <dimsuz> can I somehow turn off this windows partition check then?
[04:46] <DralaFi> maybe by editing /etc/fstab
[04:46] <dimsuz> DralaFi: but that will make me unable to mount this partition....
[04:47] <DralaFi> why?
[04:47] <grisha_> run a chkdsk C: /f in windows
[04:47] <dimsuz> DralaFi: ah, yes. Well let's say it will make me unable to _conviniently_ unmount my win partition :)
[04:48] <DralaFi> no it wont
[04:48] <grisha_> if C: is that partition
[04:48] <DralaFi> it just wont check
[04:48] <dimsuz> grisha_: that'll help?
[04:48] <DralaFi> why won't you be able to conveniently unmount the partition???
[04:48] <grisha_> dimsuz: maybe. It will search and fix all errors on the disk.
[04:48] <dr_willis> why do you need to unmount it? :P
[04:49] <dimsuz> DralaFi: hmm. but if i remove it from fstab, i'll have to do smth like: "mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1" instead of just "mount /media/hda1"
[04:49] <DralaFi> no you wont
[04:49] <DralaFi> /dev/hda1        /fat1            vfat        defaults,umask=0 1   0
[04:49] <Freddy2> you can use the noauto option
[04:49] <DralaFi> the last 0 means "If the sixth field
[04:49] <DralaFi>        is not present or zero, a value of zero is returned and fsck will assume that the filesystem does not need to be checked."
[04:49] <dr_willis> user, and users, options are nice also.
[04:49] <grisha_> yes
[04:49] <Freddy2> noauto,user/users, umask=000,rw
[04:49] <Freddy2> for example
[04:49] <DralaFi> you want auto
[04:50] <dimsuz> dr_willis: oh, s/unmount/mount :)
[04:50] <DralaFi> just make sure the last part of the line is 0
[04:50] <dimsuz> DralaFi: oh! I misread you :). I thought you suggest to _remove_ this entry from fstab rather than editing it :)
[04:50] <DralaFi> that's why I said "edit" :D
[04:51] <dimsuz> DralaFi: :D. Thanks, did it :).
[04:51] <dimsuz> I'll check on next reboot :)
[04:52] <dimsuz> btw, is there a way to install another bootsplash in kubuntu. Default one looks weird to me. Compared with Gentoo or Suse for example
[04:53] <grisha_> the cleanest way to deal with it is to put a startup disk (win98 for ex.) in the drive or a dos system disk with fdisk. Boot from it and give a fdisk /MBR that will restore the mbr. but do this ONLY!!!! if grub or lilo is on another disk's mbr. ONLY!
[04:53] <jorik> dimsuz: you mean like "pixelated", like it's using 16 bit colors ?
[04:54] <dimsuz> jorik: and that too. and weird fonts :)
[04:55] <jorik> dimsuz: yeah i have that too, but i never bothered ... but if you find a way to make it look prettiur lemme know :p
[04:55] <dimsuz> jorik: okay :)
[04:55] <jorik> :o)
[04:55] <cory> what's a good newsgroup reader for linux that handles binaries well?
[04:55] <dimsuz> jorik: I guess the only right solution atm is wait for edgy :)
[04:56] <Freddy2> edgy? the codename for next (k)ubuntu release?
[04:56] <grisha_> cory: rssOwl
[04:56] <dimsuz> Freddy2: yes
[04:57] <cory> bah!
[04:57] <jorik> dimsuz: that usually works best + i'm not gonna risk my setup for some eyecandy (which is why i wont touch xgl either)
[04:57] <grisha_> cory: And Akregator, but it sucks i think, and supporting binaries? donno
[04:57] <DralaFi> xgl is awesome :)
[04:58] <TehUni> mmm
[04:58] <DralaFi> got it on my slackware box
[04:58] <DralaFi> videos are very slow on it though
[04:58] <dimsuz> jorik: well, I'd try it if I knew how to do it. Btw, I tried xgl, it doesn't work for me - some weird compiz error
[04:58] <TehUni> i'll give it a shot. grisha_ rssowl in the repos?
[04:58] <dimsuz> DralaFi: I tried kororoaa liveCD. awesome, yes :)
[04:58] <DralaFi> :)
[04:59] <TehUni> oh.
[04:59] <jorik> rssowl handles nntp too ?
[04:59] <TehUni> grisha_: that's for rss/atom. I need one for newsgroups.
[04:59] <DralaFi> it was hard work getting it working on slackware. had to update X.org myself by hand... no packages.
[04:59] <dimsuz> TehUni: there's kde's knode, but I haven't tried it - just know that it exists :)
[05:00] <DralaFi> there's pan
[05:00] <larson9999> slack! lol
[05:00] <jorik> TehUni: i use pan
[05:00] <DralaFi> that does binary usenet stuff
[05:00] <dimsuz> is there vim7 for kubuntu?
[05:00] <grisha_> TehUni: oh, my mistake. btw: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_RSS.2FRDF.2FAtom_Newsreader_.28RSSOwl.29
[05:01] <TehUni> jorik: does it do .nzb's ?
[05:02] <grisha_> TehUni: yes
[05:02] <grisha_> TehUni: but only 0.9x
[05:03] <h3sp4wn> dimsuz: Its in edgy / debian sid - you can use apt-get -b source vim (from edgy or sid repositories)
[05:03] <TehUni> k
[05:03] <dimsuz> h3sp4wn: that'll build vim from sources, yes?
[05:04] <grisha_> TehUni: and above
[05:04] <grisha_> TehUni: http://pan.rebelbase.com/download/
[05:04] <h3sp4wn> dimsuz: you need a suitable deb-src line - but yes
[05:04] <dimsuz> h3sp4wn: ok, thanks!
[05:05] <dragonkh> hi anyone running with a 7950gx2 ?
[05:07] <grisha_> dragonkh: you can only use both cores if you have an sli ready MB. Btw, u've got a nice card.
[05:07] <DralaFi> what would be cool is to have Adept have a progress bar when installing packages
[05:08] <dragonkh> grisha_: I am struggling with running in twinview
[05:08] <dragonkh> grisha_: I got the sli working fine - but I want to use both screens
[05:09] <dr_willis> http://gentoo-wiki.com/Twinview_Example
[05:09] <dr_willis> is what i followed/used/hacked/tweaked to get mine working
[05:10] <grisha_> dragonkh. Install NVIDIA driver first. Than sudo nvidia-glx-configure enable  and edit the xorg.conf file.
[05:10] <grisha_> You can find lots of guides on the web. Pick one. Google for it.
[05:13] <dragonkh> grisha_:  where do i get this command ?  sudo nvidia-glx-configure enable
[05:13] <dragonkh> grisha_: I dont seem to have nvidia-glx-configure
[05:13] <abattoir> DralaFi: i see you have got kubuntu installed on your laptop :)
[05:13] <soulrider> hi everyone
[05:14] <DralaFi> abattoir, yeah :)
[05:14] <abattoir> DralaFi: breezy->dapper ?
[05:14] <DralaFi> it finished upgrading just now, so i'll reboot
[05:14] <DralaFi> abattoir, yes :)
[05:14] <abattoir> DralaFi: cool :)
[05:15] <equinoxeB> does anyone knows how I can make kopete refresh contacts photos?
[05:15] <DralaFi> but i made a mistake and did:  breezy -> breezy-latest -> dapper :)
[05:15] <abattoir> DralaFi: so i guess the problem was edgy specific
[05:15] <abattoir> DralaFi: sorry, dapper specific
[05:15] <DralaFi_laptop> time to reboot :)
[05:15] <ketsugi> Grr, any kmobiletools users around?
[05:16] <grisha_> dragonkh: you can install nvidia driver with easyubuntu That's the fastest way. After it is done, u open a konsole and type sudo nvidia-glx-configure enable.
[05:17] <Freddy2> http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2915
[05:17] <grisha_> dragonkh: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper will be very helpful. But you have to edit the xorg.conf manually
[05:18] <dragonkh> grisha - I did a apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:19] <dragonkh> I'll try easyubunty
[05:20] <exotic> hey all
[05:21] <exotic> need some help please
[05:21] <exotic> ive done everything, to make amarok play mp3, but in vain!
[05:21] <exotic> xmms plays them very well,.. but i dunno what's wrong amarok,..
[05:22] <exotic> xine does not play them either,
[05:22] <exotic> any help?
[05:22] <fritsch> exotic: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:22] <fritsch> exotic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:22] <DralaFi_laptop> \o/
[05:22] <DralaFi_laptop> dapper
[05:22] <larson9999> does xawtv work for you guys in dapper?  it locks my system up.  black screen and i can't get do anything.
[05:23] <born> hi
[05:23] <fritsch> larson9999: have tried tvtime?
[05:23] <fritsch> larson9999: this rocks for me
[05:23] <grisha_> dragonkh: you find some help to configure xorg.conf on www.ubuntuforums.org ( here is one: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7938.html    it's for a DFP + 1 CRT, all you have to do is reedit it. Use only from section "Devise" to Section "Server Layout" The other parts might be different at you.
[05:23] <exotic> Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:23] <exotic> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:23] <exotic> is only available from another source
[05:23] <exotic> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[05:23] <exotic> fritsch:
[05:23] <fritsch> exotic: multiverse und universe enablen
[05:23] <exotic> that's what i got
[05:23] <emma> hi, i am a complete newbeginner with kubuntu. Everything on my screen is huge, and when I try to change the resolution in system settings, there is only one option to choose from. The lowest one. Any help?
[05:23] <born> I'm installing Kubuntu on my system, I used linux already, now I have deleted everything on my partition, except the /home folder. I can't make a backup, I want to install Kubuntu on this partition, will Kubuntu delete my /home folder?
[05:23] <fritsch> exotic: enable multiverse and universe
[05:23] <fritsch> exotic: just click them to enable in adept
[05:24] <exotic> fritsch:how do i enable them again? sorry
[05:24] <larson9999> fritsch: yeah, i've tried it and don't have any issues with it.  but i'm curious why xawtv is locking up my system.
[05:24] <fritsch> !repos > exotic
[05:24] <echo> Hi, have someone Cedega 4.x.x ?
[05:24] <born> does anybody know the kubuntu installer behaviour? :)
[05:24] <fritsch> !repos > fritsch
[05:25] <emma> hi, i am a complete newbeginner with kubuntu. Everything on my screen is huge, and when I try to change the resolution in system settings, there is only one option to choose from. The lowest one. Any help?
[05:25] <dr_willis> emma,  what video card?
[05:25] <born> oh, please, help me :)
[05:25] <grisha_> born: use kubuntu as a live disk, backup your data, and install.
[05:25] <born> grisha_: I can't backup my data
[05:25] <born> grisha_: I have no space
[05:25] <dr_willis> by 'huge' you mean the screen is being shown at a very low res. thus making the fonts and stuff 'big'
[05:26] <born> grisha_: I'm in Kubuntu Live now, but I have to install into an existing partition without formatting it or wiping all data
[05:26] <emma> envidea geforce3 proffessional.
[05:26] <born> grisha_: so what's the kubuntu behaviour, will the installer wipe all data?
[05:26] <exotic> fritsch: -extracodecs, i can't find them in adept
[05:27] <grisha_> born: than install kubuntu and give another user name, to create a different home folder. During install make sure not to check the format option at the partition.
[05:27] <fritsch> exotic: i told you to enable multiverse and universe
[05:27] <born> grisha_: ok
[05:27] <fritsch> exotic: just read what the bot has written to you
[05:27] <larson9999> born: do you have your data in a differnt partion like /home ?
[05:27] <born> larson9999: no, I have only two partitions (/boot and /)
[05:27] <soulrider> you guys like my kubuntu userbar? http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4840/kuserqq5.png
[05:27] <born> I want to keep them
[05:27] <soulrider> you can use it if you want :P
[05:27] <emma> envidea geforce3 proffessional.
[05:28] <MCTOM> hi Ryoga85
[05:28] <grisha_> born: it works only if your home folder is /home/born
[05:28] <born> and I want that Kubuntu uses them without formatting or wiping all data on them
[05:28] <LudwigVanHatten> hello
[05:28] <Nachtschatten> Huhu MCTOM *grins*
[05:28] <grisha_> or something like that.
[05:28] <dr_willis> emma,  install the nvidia drivers for that card for a start
[05:28] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[05:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:28] <MCTOM> Nachtschatten hehe
[05:28] <emma> ok, how do i do that?
[05:28] <dr_willis> emma,  and you proverly want to isntall 'synaptic' first so that guide is 'correct'
[05:28] <LudwigVanHatten> looking for an application like "autoroute" in kubuntu
[05:28] <born> grisha_: I renamed my old home folder so there would be no collission at all...
[05:29] <LudwigVanHatten> or something like mapping world, directions
[05:29] <larson9999> born you can tell it not to reformat if you choose the custom partion option but i've never tried installing and not reformatting the partition root will go on.
[05:29] <born> larson9999: ok :) so this is a bit risky for me
[05:29] <fritsch> exotic: still there?
[05:29] <exotic> fritsch:still don't know how to enable universe and multiuniverse, didn't find it in the url bot gave
[05:29] <grisha_> born: than give it a try. At partitionin choose, custom, and uncheck the format mark at /
[05:29] <born> larson9999: not format means only not format, but not necessary "not deleting data"
[05:29] <born> grisha_: i need my data ;)
[05:29] <steveire_> imposter
[05:30] <larson9999> born in the future you should put your data in a separate partition
[05:30] <emma> sorry, but i am a complete new beginner... details?
[05:30] <dr_willis> emma,  sudo apt-get install synaptic  (for a start) then go read at that !nvidia url
[05:30] <steveire> better
[05:30] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[05:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:30] <fritsch> exotic: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Paketquellen_freischalten
[05:30] <fritsch> exotic: oh, sorry, that'`s german
[05:31] <grisha_> emma: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper  Do steps 4.1-->6.1 and you can install nvidia driver via gui
[05:31] <larson9999> born: it shouldn't delete data unless the same file exists.  like i said i've never tried it without reformatting the root drive
[05:31] <born> larson9999: I know
[05:31] <fritsch> exotic: you need an english source?
[05:31] <born> larson9999: I will give it a try
[05:31] <exotic> fritsch:yes, english
[05:31] <larson9999> born: how much room do you have on your drive?
[05:31] <fritsch> exotic: http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-add-universe-and-multiverse-repository
[05:32] <fritsch> exotic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:32] <born> about 20 gigs
[05:32] <grisha_> emma: bookmark this page, cuz' it's quite helpful.
[05:32] <fritsch> exotic: just add multiverse and universe
[05:32] <larson9999> you can always use gparted and shrink your partiion and then copy data over to the new one
[05:32] <born> it is lazier for a desktop system to have only one partition :)
[05:32] <exotic> fritsch:thanx so mcuh really, i'll check this and tell u
[05:33] <fritsch> exotic: cool! no prob
[05:33] <larson9999> born 20 gig free?  is that enough to hold the data you want to preserve?
[05:34] <born> larson9999: no
[05:34] <larson9999> born: if you compress it?
[05:34] <grisha_> I think the minimum is 3 part. /boot / and swap. I have two other storage part. on another disk.
[05:34] <born> larson9999: no way :)
[05:34] <fritsch> grisha_: minimum ist 2 parts
[05:34] <born> grisha_: yeah this is also my schema
[05:35] <fritsch> grisha_: / and swap
[05:35] <born> i have /boot / and swap
[05:35] <fritsch> grisha_: boot with fat is only needed, if you would installe Windows
[05:35] <larson9999> man, i don't have even 10 gig worth of data and i've been collecting it for 20 years.
[05:35] <fritsch> grisha_: after ubuntu
[05:35] <grisha_> fritsch: if you are minimalist you can use one. / .
[05:35] <fritsch> grisha_: yes, but swapfile i do not like
[05:35] <fritsch> grisha_: suspend 2 disk (in kernel) is not possible ...
[05:35] <grisha_> fritsch: yes, me neither
[05:37] <fritsch> grisha_: i use suspend2, this can use a filewriter
[05:37] <fritsch> grisha_: but changing ubuntu kernel, etc. is not fun
[05:37] <grisha_> I used UHU-linux without swap partition. Have 2gigs of ram and you wont't notice the absence
[05:38] <fritsch> grisha_: yes
[05:38] <fritsch> grisha_: my computer does not swap for most of the time
[05:38] <fritsch> grisha_: but suspend, etc.
[05:39] <grisha_> but as I mentioned 3 part is the minimum (yes, if you need win too, I don't need anymore, so it's like bad habit)
[05:40] <dhq> which is the least interface like fluxbox
[05:40] <grisha_> I have one more XFX storage part. around 60gigs, and one 100G fat32. It's unfortunatly a must, cuz' my friends use XP
[05:41] <larson9999> grisha_: you can use ext2 in windows :)
[05:41] <grisha_> yes, i know. It can read, ext2 and ext3.
[05:42] <Freddy2> even reiser, with certain app
[05:42] <grisha_> But when I visit my friends for a couple dosen of films...
[05:43] <larson9999> grisha_: and write.  but if you use ext3 for write and windows shuts down 'in a bad way' you'll need to fsck it so i use ext2 to share a part between linux and xp
[05:43] <HailandKill> How do I set up a network hotplug in Dapper?
[05:44] <grisha_> I managed it with fat32, never tried to write to ext3 with ext2fs. The only catch is the file size barrier under fat32. But it's easy to deal with it
[05:45] <larson9999> grisha_: that's why i left fat32 for ext2.
[05:45] <TehUni> my hd is getting full so i'm gonna get a bigger one and move my kubuntu install over. what's the easiet way to do that?
[05:46] <exotic> fritsch:universe and multiuniverse enabled, downloading extracodecs now, thanx
[05:46] <larson9999> TehUni: i would use gparted live cd to copy the partition from the old to the new drive
[05:46] <grisha_> I use RaiserFS for system, XFS for storage under linux. Fat32 is just for easy transportation.
[05:46] <TehUni> larson9999: will that keep the bootsector intact?
[05:46] <TehUni> or am i going to have to reinstall grub?
[05:46] <fritsch> exotic: nice to have helped
[05:46] <larson9999> TehUni: it has for me so far.
[05:47] <stray_77> tehuni, get a hirams boot cd and clone your drive
[05:47] <steveire> I have some files containing 'one two foo three'. How do I change all of the files to 'one two bar three'? I thought I could use sed, but it outputs to stdout rather than editing the file
[05:47] <Ryoga85> I hae a question. Is there write support for NTFS in kubuntu 6.06.1?
[05:47] <Ryoga85> *have
[05:47] <steveire> hirens boot cd*
[05:47] <stray_77> !ntfs
[05:47] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:47] <stray_77> !fuse
[05:47] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[05:47] <HailandKill> !hotplug
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotplug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <grisha_> Ryoga85: No, but you can add. But I would not recommend it. It's experimental
[05:48] <HailandKill> !wireless
[05:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:48] <exotic> fritsch:mp3 files working properly, thanx so much, u made my day
 ok, because I have a 400GB hdd formatted with NTFS
[05:49] <fritsch> exotic: mine makes the sun
[05:49] <exotic> fritsch:lol
[05:49] <larson9999> i use captive to edit my ntfs partition when i have to.  so far no problems.
[05:50] <larson9999> Ryoga85: i use captive to edit my ntfs partition when i have to.  so far no problems. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[05:50] <grisha_> Ryoga85: It's called sucks. I had 160GB full, the same (NTFS), and the other hdd is only 60gigs, so I backed up, at my friend
[05:50] <hume> hi.. i installed knetworkmanager, and am connected through wireless net, but knetworkmanager says disconnected and shows no networks - do I have to set it up in any specific way?
[05:52] <stray_77> hume, which nic are you looking at? eth0 (probably rj45) or eth1 (probably your wireless)
[05:52] <grisha_> Ryoga85: It's possible to convert your filesystem to FAT32. With PQMAGIC 8. But, it's not free of risks either.
[05:52] <larson9999> time to make the doughnuts
[05:52] <dhq> hey
[05:52] <dhq> hey all
[05:52] <dhq> i need help with k3b any experts to help
[05:53] <hume> stray_77, my wireless nic is eth0 - but how do I set which nit knm looks at?
 hmm
[05:53] <h3sp4wn> dhq: I take it you have already run kdesu k3bsetup ?
[05:54] <fidel_> i'm not an expert dhq, but i might be able to help
[05:54] <HailandKill> hume: I'm actually, by chance, installing knm now. I'll have a look about setting it up and try and help you.
[05:54] <hume> HailandKill, thx
[05:54] <dhq> well when i burn a dvd i get aerror msg h3sp4wn fidel_
[05:54] <grisha_> Ryoga85: 1st, cuz 400gigs is too much not to mistak :) And, FAT32 cant handle files larger than 4GB
[05:54] <grisha_> e
 umm, so you can't store a DVD image on a fat32 disk? well I have a nice ISO Image collection *lol*
[05:55] <HailandKill> hume, yeah. So I've got exactly the same problem as you =) Which I guess is good!
[05:56] <hume> HailandKill, sounds good..:)
[05:56] <dhq> h3sp4wn: fidel_;-( unable to SET STREAMING:input/outputerror   Fatal error at startup:Input/output error
[05:57] <HailandKill> !knetworkmanager
[05:57] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1~svn-r533312-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 263 kB, installed size 1412 kB
[05:57] <fidel_> hmm...dhq have you tried gnomebaker instead of k3b?
[05:57] <HailandKill> hume, are you reading http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[05:58] <HailandKill> Official documentation may be a good place to start
[05:58] <grisha_> Ryoga85: I thought so. (from the 400Gigs). And no, you can't. :( Get another 400G HDD for a couple of hours.
[05:58] <dhq> fidel_: no not really
[05:58] <Ryoga85> well, it's not full
[05:58] <hume> HailandKill, yes, and yes..:)
[05:58] <Ryoga85> less than 100GB are used yet
[05:59] <fidel_> try this dhq: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_CD.2FDVD_Burning_Application_.28GnomeBaker.29
[05:59] <Ryoga85> and most time I work with WinXP
[05:59] <grisha_> Than create separate partitions on that large disk
[05:59] <fidel_> anybody know if growisofs is included automatically in the dvdrw tools?
[06:00] <hume> HailandKill, there is also https://wiki.kubuntu.org/DapperKNetworkmanager
[06:00] <fidel_> !growisofs
[06:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about growisofs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <Ryoga85> hmm, is there a newer version of kubuntu than dapper?
[06:00] <grisha_> Ryoga85: This drive is only for storage?
[06:00] <dr_willis> Not sure if theres a Edgy Kubuntu yet.
[06:00] <grisha_> Ryoga85: Nope
[06:01] <dhq> fidel_: is gnomebaker better than k3b
[06:01] <fidel_> if it works, yes
[06:01] <Ryoga85> Netsplit Entdeckt: niven.freenode.net verlor die Verbindung zu irc.freenode.net und allen mit ihm verbundenen Servern!
 mostly yes, it's an external hdd on my laptop and is always on my desk while i'm not there
[06:01] <Ryoga85> huh?
[06:01] <HailandKill> hume, what wireless card have you got and why are you using knm?
[06:01] <fidel_> and since k3b isn't working try giving it a try
[06:01] <fidel_> also, try uninstalling and reinstalling k3b
[06:02] <hume> HailandKill, I got a buit in card in a toshiba portege m200, trying out nm as I need to switch settings whn moving from one wlan to another
[06:02] <h3sp4wn> k3b is just a frontend for cdrecord - use k3bsetup to set the permissions right - then get cdrecord working then k3b will work
[06:03] <HailandKill> hume, and your using Dapper 6.06?
[06:03] <hume> HailandKill, yes
[06:03] <dhq> fidel_:
[06:03] <fidel_> hey dhq, that h3sp4wn line was for you
[06:03] <dhq> :-[ READ TRACK INFORMATION failed with SK=6h/ASC=28h/ACQ=00h] : Input/output error
[06:03] <dhq> :-( unable to SET STREAMING: Input/output error
[06:03] <grisha_> Ryoga85: Than under XP, download pqmagic 8. Defragment the drive. Install pqmagic. Run. Resize the partition to 300G:100G or whatever u want. Create a new part on the unused free space. Format it to ext2 and apply. You can write to ext2 under linux. And u can read/write ext2 under win. And of course you can read-only ntfs part under linux.
[06:04] <fidel_> dhq: you get that from gnomebaker too?
[06:04] <dhq> yes
[06:04] <dhq> fidel_: yes
[06:04] <fidel_> have you tried running cdrecord from the command line?
[06:04] <dr_willis> I perfer the various live gparted cd's :P
 pqmagic is not for free, is it? and what do I need to read ext2 in windows? because windows comes withou ext2 drivers
[06:05] <fidel_> hey dr_willis, you have any idea what might help dhq?
[06:05] <dr_willis> not sure what his issue is.
[06:05] <dr_willis> :) let me sroll up
[06:06] <grisha_> gnomebaker and k3b runs on the same engine.
[06:06] <fidel_> and to anyone in the room- is growisofs included in dvdrw tools?
[06:06] <dr_willis> looke like a permission issue.
[06:06] <dr_willis> fidel_,  install it and see?
[06:06] <dr_willis> !info growisofs
[06:06] <ubotu> Package growisofs does not exist in dapper
[06:06] <dr_willis> !info dvdrwtools
[06:06] <ubotu> Package dvdrwtools does not exist in dapper
[06:06] <dr_willis> :) hmm.. lol
[06:07] <fidel_> yeah, it's part of the dvdrwtools
[06:07] <fidel_> i'm a moran
 gparted claims to be able to change the size of ntfs partitions, should I try it or rather not?
[06:07] <fidel_> that's prbly not the exact pack name
[06:07] <fidel_> so, how can dhq fix his issue?
[06:07] <dr_willis> i was just wondering  why it mattered either way.,. if it wasent.. install it. :P
[06:07] <fidel_> is it permissions on the /media thing
[06:07] <dhq> fidel_: dr_willis: what if i use sudo gnomebaker then there wont be any permission issues
[06:08] <fidel_> that might work
[06:08] <dr_willis> try it and see.
[06:08] <grisha_> Ryoga85: pqmagic is not free. But it's not a problem. After you're done, you can uninstall it. You need Ext2fs to read/write ext2. It's a small program. But there might be a driver, or plugin for Total commander donno. I used ext2fs
[06:08] <fidel_> thanks for your time folks. im audi
[06:08] <dr_willis> the burning tools should be accessing /dev/whatever  - NOT /media/whatever
[06:08] <HailandKill> hume, it might be that knm isn't supporting our network cards. It isn't a very expansive list, seems rather new software.
[06:09] <dhq> dr_willis: so what can i do
[06:09] <hume> HailandKill, have you understood where to configure which card it checks? eth0, eth1?
[06:09] <dr_willis> compare the permissions on /dev/cdrom /dev/dvd and so on - with others. perhaps as a start
[06:09] <grisha_> Ryoga86: i wrote pqmagic, cuz' i know it and it's working fine. I use it for 8 years or so.
[06:09] <Marie_> hello everyone
[06:10] <grisha_> hi
[06:10] <Marie_> I'm having trouble installing the driver from my network card
[06:10] <west-en> i tried to get a swap space, using first mkswap, and now swapon
[06:10] <dhq> dr_willis: i am new to linux so dont know much
[06:10] <west-en> but when i try use swapon, he tels me that the device is busy
[06:10] <west-en> someone that know?
[06:11] <dr_willis> dhq,  you are running this stuff as your first user? or as root?
[06:11] <Marie_> I think the installing process doesn't find my kernel header files cause there in /usr/src/linux/include/linux instead of /usr/src/linux/include directly
[06:11] <grisha_> MArie: what kind of card? What's the error message? What kind of driver?
 I have pqmagic 7 but it can't resize ntfs partitions afaik
[06:11] <dhq> dr_willis: firstuser
[06:11] <grisha_> Marie: edit the configure file.
[06:12] <Marie_> grisha_ Dlink DFE-530TX
[06:12] <west-en> someone that can help med with the swap?
[06:12] <dr_willis> dhq,  try  'ksudo k3b' yet ? (or whatever the kde command is to run stuff as root)
[06:12] <HailandKill> hume, as far as I gather, you configure them nomrally in the nework settings. knetwork manager is meant to pick all this up automatically.
[06:12] <HailandKill> I think...
[06:13] <Marie_> grisha_ how do I edit which file?
[06:13] <Ryoga85> oh, it can?
[06:14] <dhq> dr_willis: i still get the same error
[06:14] <grisha_> Marie:
[06:14] <hume> HailandKill, network-admin is the tool I've used so far, that seems not to be troubled b y my card - you mean there is a difference in how these tools depend on the actual card?
[06:14] <Marie_> grisha_ you can find the instructions on http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/68077-help-compiling-source-file.html
[06:15] <grisha_> Marie: DFE-530TX has VIA Rhine, the TX+ has RTL8139 chipset. U don't need to install drivers.
[06:15] <Marie_> when I get to step 4, I don't know how it's supposed to generate rhinefet.o, but all I get is long pages of errors
[06:15] <dr_willis> dhq,  id take the exact error and google for it and see what shows up.
[06:16] <Marie_> grisha_ but then my internet connection is not working...
[06:16] <grisha_> Marie: Go to System->Administration->networking  ---> Ethernet connection --click--. Properties--->set it to DHCP or static, whatever u use and activate. It's done
[06:16] <HailandKill> hume, I'm not sure what you mean... but I assume knm isn't even detecting any hardware with you? It isn't with me. If it can't find any hardware, it can't configure it.
[06:16] <Marie_> it doesn't find the ethernet connection...
[06:17] <Marie_> grisha_ I only have a ra0 appearing, no eth0
[06:17] <Ryoga85[away] > Ich bin ab jetzt [abwesend]  | Grund: [pause machen]  | [20. August 2006, 18:17:12] 
[06:17] <Ryoga85[away] > | bye all people on freenode | [amsg] 
[06:17] <Marie_> grisha_ (and
[06:17] <Marie_> and I do have another wireless card
[06:18] <grisha_> Marie: hm. than 2 options
[06:18] <exotic> fritsch:it's me again, sorry, but this one is trivial, but i really can't get it: when i try to listen to radio online using Konqueror, it requires to 'save files as', but i just want it to open in the brwoser with amarok, got what i mean?
[06:18] <Ryoga85[away] > <grisha_> whats the difference between kubuntu CD and DVD image?
[06:18] <grisha_> Marie: 1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87643  or 2. you can try editing the /boot/grub/menu.lst file and go to the line with the kernel entry and add: acpi=force pci=noacpi
[06:19] <fritsch> exotic: yes
[06:19] <fritsch> exotic: just open with and then amarok
[06:19] <fritsch> exotic: right klick on the link - open with amarok
[06:19] <Marie_> grisha_ what will option 2 do?
[06:19] <hume> HailandKill, i guess I really dont know myself - but my hypothesis was that all nm needed to access was the device name, eth0 or eth1, not the card as such, which seems to be what network-admin does
[06:20] <grisha_> Ryoga85: DVD has tons of packages, so you don't need to download them.
[06:20] <Ryoga85[away] > <grisha_> ah ok
[06:21] <exotic> fritsch:thanx, sorry for bothering,..
[06:21] <grisha_> Marie: your OS will recognise your card easier
[06:21] <dhq> dr_willis: brb just ctrl_alt_bckspace
[06:21] <hume> HailandKill, anyway, my wireless nic is Intel pro wiresless 2200, that should be supported by nm
[06:21] <Marie_> grisha_ when I do a "ifconfig eth0" it says it doesn't find the peripheric
[06:22] <grisha_> Marie: but it's the second, cuz'  it can make other changes too, based on your hardware.
[06:24] <Marie_> grisha_ according to the post you sent me, my driver is not installed...
[06:24] <Skrot> Hi. I've got two sound cards in my computer. Is there an easy way to switch between them?
[06:24] <grisha_> Marie: Than the OS did not recognised the card. Try opt. 2, or google on it. (DFE-530TX ubuntu) tons of posts. Or you canb change
[06:26] <Marie_> grisha_ the funny thing is it once worked, than just got so long, and stopped working
[06:26] <grisha_> Marie: or you can change your card to a RTL or intel chipset card. If you have some at home (I have 3 :) Or if you have 2 comps at home, and u use win on the other simply change the cards.
[06:26] <grisha_> Marie: Oh.
[06:26] <hume> HailandKill, if I understand the documentation correctly, the fact that knm does not find my nic should indicate that hal doesn't find it - you know how to check if hal does?
[06:27] <Marie_> grisha_ as for changing cards, I just bought this one!
[06:27] <grisha_> Marie: Than maybe the card is out of order. I don't think that Via rhine or rhine II is not supported by the kernel.
[06:28] <Marie_> grisha_ but I just bought it, what the fuck?
[06:28] <grisha_> Marie: Sometimes Via rhine is not activated by default, upon install. Like on ubuntu or UHU-Linux, but you can simply activate it.
[06:28] <Marie_> grisha_ yeah, that's what happened
[06:28] <h3sp4wn> I thought via only had closed drivers for those cards
[06:29] <james_xxx> does anyone in here have experience with usb wireless adapters?
[06:29] <grisha_> Marie: If you have just bought it, than you have 1 year warranty. Take it back and change it to a RTL8139 chipset card
[06:29] <HailandKill> hume, no idea, I found hal wasn't actually installed on my machine... it is now though
[06:29] <HailandKill> hume I found this http://nozell.com/blog/2006/03/17/getting-networkmanager-to-work-on-ubuntudapper/
[06:30] <HailandKill> haven't read it yet
[06:31] <Marie_> grisha_ and is there any definite test I can do to make sure it's not working?
[06:31] <HailandKill> hume, it seems you need to remove all references in /etc/network/interfaces
[06:31] <james_xxx> i have a wusb54g v.4 linksys wireless adapter hooked to this PC, but the PC keeps crashing when i am in kubuntu.... i don't know if it does this in windows or not, and i don't know if the usb wirelss adapter has anything to do with it
[06:31] <HailandKill> hume, expect for auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[06:31] <hume> HailandKill, great, I'll have a look. I found that hal do find my nic, browsing through hal-device-manager
[06:31] <hume> HailandKill, ok....just got to have dinner - wife calling..:) be back in a short while
[06:32] <grisha_> Marie: Try it in another PC, under win. If you have the opportunity.
[06:32] <HailandKill> hume, kk =)
[06:32] <Marie_> grisha_ any idea if there's gonna be lot's of hassle about bringing it back?
[06:35] <grisha_> Marie: I don't think so. Tell the guy that you couldn't use it under linux and you'd like another with realtek chipset.
[06:37] <chx> what's the state of nvidia driver (not nv) and xorg 7.1?
[06:37] <Bazzi> "not yet"
[06:38] <grisha_> Marie: An NIC card costs 8$. Too cheep to struggle. Or If you don't know them, or they doesn't look too friendly, just say it's not working.
[06:38] <Marie_> I just called the store and because it's passed 14 days, he can't do anything... I have to call the manufacturer........
[06:38] <tombuntu> wow
[06:38] <dhq> Hawkwind: unable to PERFORM OPC: Input/output error --->>my error with k3b and gnomebaker
[06:38] <tombuntu> people fighting over $5 nics
[06:38] <stray_77> ive never had a problem with a dlink dfe-530tx in linux
[06:38] <stray_77> try a different pci slot
[06:39] <Marie_> what does that mean?
[06:39] <grisha_> tombuntu: We might not live in the same country. :D
[06:39] <tombuntu> a while back someone helped me with some program like i915 or something which allowed me to edit the vbios to add 1280x768 as an optional resolution, but can't find it anymore
[06:39] <chx> Bazzi: is there a forum (on nvidia? ubuntuforums?) which i could put an alert on so I know when it's out
[06:39] <stray_77> the white slots on your motherboard are pci slots, try putting your nic in a differnet slot
[06:39] <tombuntu> 855resolution
[06:39] <tombuntu> finally found it :)
[06:40] <tgp> fritsch: can you open a query, i need to wait till my other nick gets a timeout...
[06:40] <rzei> does anyone know about enabling 3d hw accel with r200 series radeon (radeon 9000) and the opensource drivers?
[06:40] <Bazzi> chx: will be posted on nvidiaforums (.org?) then I think
[06:40] <Marie_> stray_77 I don't know if you've read the whole thing, but it worked at first, and then started getting really slow, and stopped working
[06:40] <dr_willis> rzei,  i use the ATI drivers (fglrx) with my x200m
[06:40] <Bazzi> chx: or hang around in #ubuntu+1 news should spread there quickly
[06:40] <Marie_> stray_77 so I don't know what that would change...
[06:41] <rzei> dr_willis: yeah but the hw accel should work with the oss drivers too
[06:41] <chx> #ubuntu+1 ?? sounds interesting
[06:41] <grisha_> Marie: Yes, you can try another PCI slot. And you can try editing the /boot/grub/menu.lst file and go to the line with the kernel entry and add: acpi=force pci=noacpi
[06:41] <stray_77> ok, in that case just get another nic
[06:41] <dr_willis> rzei,  not that i saw.
[06:41] <chx> Bazzi: hanging there. thanks.bye.
[06:41] <stray_77> if its worth your time you can get a RMA from the manufacturer but thatll take forever
[06:41] <dr_willis> rzei,  the thing dident even get the resolution right untill i installed the fglrx
[06:42] <h3sp4wn> rzei: It should work with accelerated 3d with mesa (unless you installed fglrx)
[06:42] <Freddy2> ati sux with linux but.. fglrx is the only real choice for ati cards
[06:42] <tgp> fritsch: they write i should install restricted modules
[06:42] <grisha_> But i have really bad memories (I know the world is changing, bla, bla) of VIA chipsets. So i would get rid of it. But that's me, and my memories.
[06:43] <Marie_> grisha_ which kernel line? all? I have 5
[06:43] <rzei> h3sp4wn: hmm it could be that i haven't properly removed fglrx, then
[06:43] <fritsch> tgp: why do you have to do this?
[06:43] <fritsch> tgp: what is your other nick?
[06:43] <rzei> dr_willis: i'd like to use oss drivers rather than ati's :)
[06:43] <tgp> i'm actually g-henna
[06:43] <fritsch> tgp: hehe, okay
[06:43] <rzei> Freddy2: yep, never gonna buy ati again
[06:43] <Freddy2> me 2
[06:44] <fritsch> tgp: no you don't have to install them, because we build them from source
[06:44] <tgp> ok
[06:44] <fritsch> tgp: including xorg driver
[06:44] <h3sp4wn> ati upto 9250 works better than anything
[06:44] <fritsch> tgp: just install these, with dpkg -i --force-all "xorg ... fglrx" as said before
[06:45] <mario> Hello does an German Kubuntu Channel exist??
[06:45] <grisha_> Marie: there are 4-6 main lines under every title:  title, root, kernel, initrd, blabla. You need the one starting with kernel    /vmlinuz
[06:45] <h3sp4wn> rzei: man dpkg-listdiverts (I think that is the name of it) list them all and grep for fglrx (it diverts alot of things which will break 3d with mesa)
[06:45] <Freddy2> mario: try #kubuntu-de
[06:46] <mario> thank you Freddy2
[06:46] <Marie_> grisha_ 4 out of 5 start with /boot/vmlinux
[06:46] <rzei> i simply did sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx and now glxinfo says i've got direct rendering enabled :)
[06:46] <grisha_> if the system crashez durig boot, then restart.
[06:46] <rzei> (though i was already using the ati driver, just had the package installed)
[06:46] <dr_willis> its possible that in a year or so from now ATI will be the  'prime' linux video card. :P who knows what the AMD_ATI merger will do.
[06:46] <tgp> fritsch: i cannot msg to you, until my other nick disappears...
[06:47] <tgp> but dmesg | grep fglrx is empty
[06:47] <tgp> so is lsmod | grep fglrx
[06:47] <Freddy2> dr_willis: sure, but better performance in windows.. in linux i doubt it
[06:47] <rzei> dr_willis: hmm good point
[06:47] <grisha_> Marie: oh sorry, the title is: Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.xx-xx-386 or 686. (not the recovery mode)
[06:47] <grisha_> Marie: so the first one
[06:47] <rzei> has anyone tried xgl with kubuntu? is it stable?
[06:47] <Marie_> grisha_ ok and I have twice the same thing
[06:47] <h3sp4wn> rzei: and that diverts alot of mesa stuff to the ati ones
[06:47] <fritsch> tgp: pastebin dmesg |grep flgrx and have a look if fglrx is loaded
[06:47] <Marie_> so do I change both?
[06:48] <dr_willis> Freddy2,  amd+ati brings up a lot of 'future options' :) and now intel is opensourceing some of their drivers...   nvidia better watch out.
[06:48] <grisha_> Marie: Than yes
[06:48] <tgp> fritsch: as i said, neither dmesg nor lsmod contains a message about fglrx
[06:48] <h3sp4wn> rzei: If you have the oss ati drivers working - you can use aiglx with edgy - (you don't need xgl)
[06:48] <fritsch> tgp: so you see the problem *G*
[06:48] <fritsch> tgp: it is NOT loaded
[06:48] <fritsch> tgp: lol, you are funny
[06:49] <aibb> how can I switch back to having kde? i installed gnome for the libs, but it took over
[06:49] <tgp> fritsch: hey, the Xorg.log shows me that it is loaded...
[06:49] <h3sp4wn> rzei: I would say that would be more problem free (all though not without a few issues) - than using unofficial xgl repositories
[06:49] <fritsch> tgp: no, it can use 2d without the fglrx
[06:49] <Freddy2> dr_willis: some recent posts from ati say that won't opensource their drivers, and nvidia neither, so.. now i simply take a look at performance in linux, and the difference is very big
[06:49] <fritsch> tgp: sudo echo fglrx >> /etc/modules
[06:49] <Marie_> grisha_ just before I get into all this trouble, how do you know the driver's already installed, cause my kubuntu installation was done without internet connection, so there's a lot of packages I didn't have
[06:49] <grisha_> Marie: but if it crashez during boot. Than Restert. Hit a key, while grub is counting back. Than stand on the first . Press e end delet the options. Than enter and press b
[06:49] <fritsch> tgp: and reboot
[06:49] <fritsch> tgp: important the 2x >>
[06:49] <rzei> h3sp4wn: ok.. well actually aiglx is just what i wanted.. thanks
[06:50] <tgp> ok...
[06:50] <grisha_> Marie: it's part of your kernel. As far as i know even kernel 2.4 supported rhine.
[06:50] <dr_willis> Freddy2,  but is the merger even a done deal yet? i aint seen any of the latest news.. of course they can very quickly change their minds also. :) in 2 yrs time Intel may be the big video card maker.
[06:51] <Freddy2> dr_willis: i doubt that, but.. who knows
[06:51] <dhq> dr_willis:
[06:51] <dr_willis> I rember when 3dfx was THE  video card to own. :P
[06:51] <dr_willis> and when Matrox was a big name!
[06:51] <dr_willis> and when '2d acceleration' was a big deal. Lol.
[06:52] <dr_willis> of course if you are not big into games.. video cards are not that big a deal. :)
[06:52] <Marie_> grisha_ did the changes, do I reboot now?
[06:52] <grisha_> yes.
[06:53] <Freddy2> we'll see firstly what happens at quad-core processor market.. probably intel won't have too much free time for entering to the videocard battle if amd does a great job
[06:53] <Freddy2> and of course nvidia is not going to lose this part of the market without fighting
[06:53] <dhq> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21221
[06:53] <dr_willis> then theres the potential for GPU+CPU merging.
[06:54] <Freddy2> and maybe PPU
[06:54] <dr_willis> 11.96% done, estimate finish Sun Aug 20 22:19:15 2006
[06:54] <dr_willis> :-[ READ DISC INFORMATION failed with SK=6h/ASC=28h/ACQ=00h] : Input/output error
[06:55] <grisha_> Intel gain some breath with E6X00 series over AMD. But I'm sure that the answer from AMD will come soon.
[06:55] <Freddy2> yeah, i think so
[06:55] <dr_willis> dhq , growisofs is failing? thats like odd.. its failing mid way into the burn?
[06:55] <dhq> dr_willis: so what seems to be the problem
[06:55] <Freddy2> the next stage is quad-core.. we'll see it probably during this year
[06:56] <dr_willis> dhq,  could master the dvd image to a .iso then try butning the image, at a slower speed.
[06:56] <Marie_> grisha_ ifconfig eth0 still doesn't find anything
[06:57] <dhq> dr_willis: will try now wish me all the best
[06:57] <dr_willis> dhq,  or just try a slower burn speed.
[06:57] <h3sp4wn> ibm already has quad-core
[06:57] <dr_willis> quad core is due out like... any time now - aint it?
[06:58] <grisha_> Marie: Try to activate it, as i mentioned before. If there is no Eth0, than I'm out of ideas. Change the card to a RTL one
[06:58] <h3sp4wn> I suppose with 8 cores running gentoo may be not that much of a pain (with 15000 scsi disks)
[06:58] <fritsch> cool, just installed uubuntu on an Asus V6V over internet ...
[06:59] <Freddy2> dr_willis: i think Q4
[06:59] <hara> hello. how can i install development files needed to build kde-applications?
[06:59] <fritsch> everything worked (after some fiddeling), suspend2disk, suspend2ram, card reader
[06:59] <grisha_> h3sp4wn: yeah. Let's dream
[06:59] <grisha_> :)
[06:59] <larson9999> holy smokes!  in k3b this dvd drive shows a cd writing speed of 99x.  is that correct?  i thought there were issues if the cd spun faster than 52x or something like that
[06:59] <Marie_> grisha_ are the wireless cards listed in the same place as the ethernet?
[07:00] <grisha_> hara: install kde-apps with apt-get and it will dl and install the dependencies
[07:00] <Freddy2> 99x? lol xD
[07:00] <dr_willis> i rember 100x cdrom drives (that were marketing)
[07:00] <h3sp4wn> grisha_: I think it may be a feasible thing to have soon
[07:00] <larson9999> well, it actually is burnint at 40x
[07:00] <grisha_> Marie: yes
[07:00] <hara> grisha_: i'm trying to compile tuxdbedit from source because there isn't a .deb nor any other package, only source
[07:01] <larson9999> i was afraid the cd would explode
[07:01] <grisha_> hara: I C
[07:01] <dr_willis> larson9999,  they did a show on that on the MythBusters TV show., :)
[07:01] <hara> apt-get install kdelibs4-dev refuses to install because of some unmet dependencies
[07:01] <dhq> dr_willis: it burns cd without any problem
[07:01] <dr_willis> they spun them up REAL fast.
[07:02] <dr_willis> dhq,  you are saying it buns a cd-r fine. but not a dvd-r?
[07:02] <Marie_> grisha_ ok so there still is no eth0 appearing, only a ra0 which is already activated
[07:03] <dhq> dr_willis: yes
[07:03] <dr_willis> dhq,  could be its using different tools to burn a cd. vs a dvd.
[07:03] <saltro> holas
[07:03] <dr_willis> dhq,  it may be worth while to learn how to do the cd/dvd burning by hand from the shell. so you can better see where the errors are happening.
[07:03] <dhq> no i use k3b for both
[07:04] <dr_willis> dhq,  k3bis just a front end to the shell commands.. IT may be using different commands that you are not noticeing.
[07:04] <grisha_> Marie: Than u need another NIC. You make the change even today. Depending on the shop, where you bought the card. :)  Or the country, cuz' now, everithing is closed in my country. Even non stop shops, and i'm starving to death. :S
[07:05] <Marie_> grisha_ where are you from? don't worry, I can go buy a new one now, it's 1PM
[07:06] <Marie_> but I'm getting very pissed at linux... cause it's gonna be the second time I'm told to change cards cause it's the card's fault, not linux...
[07:06] <DralaFi> whch card?
[07:06] <Marie_> NIC
[07:06] <reinhard> Hi there, when i first installed kubuntu i had only a few choices on grub to start ....i did updates and now i have an endless list of bootoptions...any way to make this shorter again?
[07:06] <grisha_> MArie: I'm from Hungary. 1000. Aug. 20.  The foundation of the Hungarian state, Hungary is established as a Christian kingdom by Stephen I of Hungary.
[07:07] <dr_willis> reinhard,  edit the menu.lst theres optionsin there to set the # of entrys generated
[07:07] <Marie_> and when I bought this DLink my friend told me it would be ok, he didn't stress the RTL thing...
[07:07] <Marie_> happy Hungarian day then
[07:08] <Marie_> how do you celebrate, fireworks?
[07:08] <reinhard> yes, i tried that but i can't save it ...as i don't have the permissions ...i recall this from suse by doing su + password but i can't get it to work at kubuntu
[07:08] <dr_willis> reinhard,  sudo editor /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:08] <grisha_> DLink makes great NIC cards. But I (and linux) prefer  Realtec or INTEL chipset over VIA Rhine
[07:08] <dr_willis> reinhard,  and read about 'sudo'
[07:08] <dr_willis> !sudo
[07:08] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:09] <grisha_> Marie: Yes. Huge firework show in every city
[07:09] <h3sp4wn> dr_willis: what is the default for editor ? (vim I presume ?)
[07:09] <reinhard> ok, i'll try that and will come back with the outcome thx a lot
[07:09] <dr_willis> h3sp4wn,  whatever you want. :P
[07:09] <Marie_> grisha_ ok, yeah, my friend had asked me to buy a Realtek, but I couldn't find any!
[07:10] <dr_willis> reinhard,  sudo editor_of_your_choice /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:10] <dr_willis> :)
[07:10] <grisha_> Marie: The most beautiful is in Budapest, on the Bridge called "Lnc-hd"
[07:11] <grisha_> Marie: The Realtec is the vendor of the chipset. The card can be any brand. Genius, DLink, SMC, Asus.
[07:11] <Marie_> grisha_ are you in Budapest?
[07:12] <h3sp4wn> Intel etherexpress cards are good
[07:12] <Marie_> grisha_ huh??? so
[07:12] <grisha_> Marie: Nope, I'm in Pcs, prepairing to my exam.
[07:12] <Marie_> I just ask for a RTL 8139
[07:13] <grisha_> Marie: that will be fine
[07:14] <omeow> Where can I configure my gamepad?
[07:14] <grisha_> Marie: I have 2 RTL8139 working just fine in my flat. One Genius in this computer under Kubuntu, and another Edimax in my bedroom, working under Win and UHU-Linux.
[07:14] <ncaller> Hello, is there a new package to install with dapper other than xine-extracodecs, I'm trying to get all my media stuff up and running and when I do an sudo apt-get install xine-extracodecs it can't find the package
[07:14] <draik> jucato, I am using my phone
[07:15] <h3sp4wn> ncaller: libxine-extracodecs
[07:16] <DarthFrog> libxine-extracodecs works.
[07:16] <grisha_> Plus I have 3 10MBit D-link with intel chipset in my drawer. :)
[07:16] <draik> this phone is giving me script errors. Jucato, ttyl, when I get home.
[07:16] <ncaller> I get libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[07:17] <DarthFrog> Then you don't have the right archive specified in /etc/apt/sources.list.
[07:17] <DarthFrog> ncaller: Have you run EasyUbuntu?
[07:18] <ncaller> no I haven't run EasyUbuntu
[07:18] <ncaller> oh darnit, I think I'm missing multiverse
[07:19] <DarthFrog> ncaller: Google for it.  It'll install the goodies you want.
[07:19] <ncaller> can anyone cat that line from their sources.list for me for multiverse
[07:19] <ncaller> DarthFrog thanks thats cool
[07:19] <h3sp4wn> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com main restricted multiverse universe
[07:19] <grisha_> I'll be back soon. I have to have a shower (it's hot here), go downstairs visit an ATM, and pray to be at least on open pizzeria, from where I can order, A ate 3 apples today :S
[07:20] <h3sp4wn> (don't know why people bother with loads of different lines makes it more complicated to read)
[07:20] <ncaller> I didn't know you could put them on the same line
[07:23] <born> re
[07:23] <fdoving> Ryoga85[away] : please disable public away message.
[07:24] <born> O.K. now I have to problems after installing Kubuntu. My network does not work automatically, I have to execute a sudo dhclient manually after booting, what's the reason and how can i solve it?
[07:24] <fritsch> born: look in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:24] <fritsch> born: auto eth0
[07:24] <fritsch> born: eth0 inet dhcp <- this must be there
[07:25] <born> yes, it's there
[07:25] <born> so any other idea?
[07:26] <born> the second problem is, that I do not get a framebuffer console, everything is text based during boot, i don't want it this way :)
[07:26] <born> and i do not know how to solve this
[07:26] <born> i will reboot and check the behaviour
[07:26] <born> brb
[07:29] <omeow> I started the game "gish" by uncompressing it to a directory and double clicking on a file "gish" that had a gear as an icon. The screen whent all white and I switched to a console to kill the game. Then I switched back to KDE. However, now my mouse cursor does not work anymore. How do I fix this?
[07:29] <omeow> *went
[07:31] <born> ok, it still does not work
[07:32] <fdoving> born: can you please poste the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces to http://pastebin.ca ?
[07:33] <TheCobra> hi
[07:33] <TheCobra> I have some strange things here
[07:33] <TheCobra> most of the time i start my kubuntu
[07:33] <born> fdoving: of course
[07:33] <TheCobra> my internetconnection doesn't work
[07:34] <TheCobra> I first have to disable it and enable it   again before it will work
[07:34] <born> http://pastebin.ca/140781
[07:34] <hume> HailandKill, hi again - seems I got it working now..:)
[07:34] <ncaller> thanks I install libxine-extracodes and restarted amarok and mp3s work yay!  Is it true that running compiz/XGL currently hurts performance of some GL enabled and larger applications?
[07:35] <HailandKill> hume, hi yeah. You changed the interfaces file?
[07:35] <nnn0> i can't get proftpd to work on the internet, it works locally, but not externally. i had the same setup with mepis and vsftpd, but now with kubuntu and proftpd, i can't get it to work
[07:35] <fdoving> born: you don't need the address and netmask lines for the 'lo' interface.
[07:35] <hume> HailandKill, yes, deleted all but the lo-lines
[07:36] <born> fdoving: i haven't changed anything, it is default (except deleting interfaces eth1 to eth3 and some wlan stuff)
[07:36] <hume> looks nice now..:)
[07:36] <hume> HailandKill, how
[07:36] <fdoving> born: http://pastebin.ca/140785 should be enought. ok. eth0 looks good to me.
[07:36] <hume> HailandKill, how is it at your front?
[07:37] <born> fdoving: ok, i can reboot now, but it wouldn' make sense, because the eth0 configuration didn't change
[07:37] <HailandKill> hume, I did the same as you. So it works. Unfortunately, it means you cannot have manual configurations and neither does it seem to behave well when swapping between wired and wireless networks.
[07:38] <HailandKill> hume, you still have to disable the wired connection under system settings, which is annoying.
[07:38] <born> the second thing is the framebuffer device...
[07:38] <fdoving> born: is eth0 up but lacking a ip-address? before you run the 'dhclient eth0'.. that is.
[07:38] <hume> HailandKill, yeah, i understood that the manual conf didn't work, but haven
[07:38] <born> fdoving: i have to check this, wait a moment please
[07:39] <hume> HailandKill, haven't tried swapping yet - it should take care of that seamlessly...
[07:39] <HailandKill> Apparently it works fine between wireless to wireless connections, but wired to wireless doesn't work very well.
[07:43] <born> fdoving: yes, it's up and lacking an ip-address
[07:44] <born> btw. I have solved the framebuffer thingie, it was just the missing vga line in the menu.lst
[07:45] <fdoving> born: ok, you can try to add 'post-up /sbin/dhclient eth0' under the eth0 section in the interfaces file. This is not very elegant, you might have a problem with the dhcp-server or something, but you could test if it works or not.
[07:46] <rolando> hi
[07:46] <rolando> how im a supposed to compile a simple helloworld.c with kdevelop?
[07:46] <rolando> b
[07:46] <born> nice hack ;)
[07:47] <born> fdoving: I see that my network is also terribly slow
[07:48] <fdoving> born: could be related..
[07:48] <born> fdoving: I use a nvidia onboard nic
[07:48] <born> nVidia Corporation CK804 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)
[07:50] <born> fdoving: ok i found something in the forums, i will read it first
[07:50] <h3sp4wn> It may be easier to just add a pre-up sleep 5 (or something) ifup eth0 should already run dhclient
[07:51] <fdoving> h3sp4wn: good point, and solution :)
[07:53] <born> fdoving: ok there is no solution ;)
[07:54] <fdoving> born: is it a driver problem?
[07:57] <intelikey> multisession and disk at once are mutually exclusive   no?
[07:58] <dr_willis> some times i wish i could slap people asking questions in #ubuntu
[07:58] <dr_willis> :)
 GTK wont open for me....how does that not make sence?
[08:00] <angasule> !mp4
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <angasule> !mp3
[08:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:03] <archangel_> what is a good channel to talk about hardware and building pc's/modding
[08:03] <dr_willis> ##linux perhaps :) or here. lol
[08:03] <archangel_> I didnt want to get off topic 'this being a ubuntu help channel and all'
[08:04] <intelikey> i want a way to change cdw from hardcoded 650m  to 700m disk size.
[08:04] <dr_willis> i doubt if it matters much. :)   heh.
[08:04] <dr_willis> intelikey,  Huh?
[08:04] <archangel_> sweet
[08:04] <dr_willis> intelikey,  you mean hack the cdw drives bios?
[08:05] <intelikey> cdw won't burn more than 650m  on a 700m cd
[08:05] <UQlev> archangel_, if you ask a good off-topic question you probably get an answer anywhere
[08:05] <archangel_> Well, I'm looking for anyone who has worked on an Evo
[08:05] <archangel_> (Compaq Evo)
[08:06] <intelikey> hehhe oh dr_willis the app 'cdw'  lol
[08:06] <fdoving> archangel_: #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic are for general discussion.
[08:06] <intelikey> i see where you went   ;/
[08:06] <dr_willis> intelikey,  :)
[08:06] <dr_willis> !info cdw
[08:06] <ubotu> cdw: Tool for burning CD's - console version. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.3-6 (dapper), package size 40 kB, installed size 180 kB
[08:07] <dr_willis> its not just a fancy shell script?
[08:07] <born> fdoving: i do not know, a network card related program
[08:07] <intelikey> me look
[08:07] <dr_willis> me tarzan
[08:07] <born> fdoving: setting it to manual network will work, but i do not think that this is a real solution
[08:07] <dr_willis> you space monkey.
[08:07] <fdoving> born: ok, too bad.
[08:07] <pichi> nabend
[08:07] <intelikey> ^?ELF^^^.........^.^.^...0.^^4...t\^.....4. .^.(.^.^.^...4...4.^^
[08:07] <intelikey> ...................................................................^...^......
[08:07] <intelikey> :)
[08:08] <intelikey> funny script ?
[08:08] <dr_willis> those darn elfs!
[08:08] <dr_willis> :)
[08:08] <intelikey> yeah
[08:08] <dr_willis> use the source luke!
[08:08] <trish_> question: i've set "skip" on everything bcm43xx related in discover.conf to prevent this module from loading, but it still loads (before ndiswrapper) so my wifi doesn't work!  what am i missing?
[08:08] <angasule> hmm, how do I play mp4 movies?
[08:08] <dr_willis> modules blacklist file perhaps?
[08:09] <fdoving> trish_: blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:09] <intelikey> i guess that's the only way.   but why would they code it to 650m in the first place?
[08:09] <dr_willis> angasule,  vlc/xine/mplayer witht he  w32codec pack
[08:09] <dr_willis> intelikey,  check the homepage for the program?
[08:09] <trish_> aha thanks fdoving
[08:09] <dr_willis> intelikey,  perhaps ya are confused about somthing not them. :) or perhaps its just a cruddy progarm
[08:10] <intelikey> it has a home page ???
[08:10] <intelikey> heh
[08:10] <dr_willis> !google cdw homepage
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google cdw homepage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:10] <dr_willis> :(
[08:10] <dr_willis> !google cdw
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google cdw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:10] <angasule> dr_willis: hmm, funny thing it didn't work, then, maybe just a glitch
[08:11] <dr_willis> angasule,  or some funky codec issue.
[08:11] <angasule> hmm, does wget lock files or anything like that?
[08:15] <do> et en francais
[08:15] <intelikey> dr_willis i think you're right it just a poorly writen app  but the kind i like.    think i'll learn to like it much... for cd's it's the cli 'way to go'  :)
[08:15] <isenburk> ki francais ?
[08:16] <dr_willis> intelikey,  rewrite it in comal!
[08:17] <intelikey> has several functions i had'nt fount yet...    very powerful
[08:18] <isenburk> any "french" server for kubuntu ?
[08:18] <dr_willis> http://packages.debian.org/stable/otherosfs/cdw-common
[08:20] <K3B> hello all
[08:20] <pacman> is anyone familiar with getting the latest Java (1.5?) set up on Kubuntu?
[08:20] <intelikey> it's a dead project,   even more reason to like it.....   /me starts getting excited
[08:20] <Xera> argh this is so annoying
[08:20] <Xera> i installed amp
[08:21] <HailandKill> does anyone know if ifdown returns an errorlevel?
[08:21] <Xera> and whenever i try to open a php file, it just goes to download it
[08:21] <intelikey> if it doesn't it should be filed as a bug.
[08:21] <intelikey> HailandKill ^
[08:22] <intelikey> ifdown && echo 0 || echo 1
[08:22] <intelikey> ifdown: Use --help for help
[08:22] <intelikey> 1
[08:22] <isenburk> pacman: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[08:22] <intelikey> does that answer your question HailandKill ?
[08:23] <HailandKill> intelikey, thanks =) obviously it's my shell script.
[08:23] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[08:24] <isenburk> ubotu: tell pacman about java
[08:24] <dr_willis> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:24] <dr_willis> if the dang thing pops up the eula thing right. :P
[08:25] <mathieu_> Hi
[08:25] <pacman> couldn't find package
[08:25] <dr_willis> Moo mathieu_ !
[08:25] <dr_willis> which package?
[08:26] <pacman> I tried apt-get install sun-java5.bin
[08:26] <dr_willis> Hmm.. where did that come from?
[08:26] <mathieu_> Im having trouble installing kubuntu on my machine. Grub doesnt install correctly I have to type the command manually
 pacman: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[08:26] <mathieu_> which makes booting the machine quite.... unfriendly :)
[08:26] <Xera> lol
[08:26] <dr_willis> then perhaps sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:26] <Xera> can't anybody answer me? :S
[08:26] <pacman> dr willis: couldn't find package
[08:27] <dr_willis> Xera,  moo!
[08:27] <Xera> Oo
[08:27] <dr_willis> pacman,  you DO have multiverse enabled?
[08:27] <Xera> oooooookk then..
[08:27] <pacman> uhm
[08:27] <dr_willis> To install Java it will require you to have the Multiverse repository enabled.
[08:27] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java   (first thing it says) :P
[08:27] <intelikey> mathieu_ check your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:27] <Xera> just use automatix
[08:27] <Xera> does it for you :>
[08:27] <dr_willis> Xera,   it can also trash the whole system for you
[08:28] <dr_willis> if it even works at all. :)
[08:28] <Xera> Oo
[08:28] <dr_willis> plus its a rather trivial thing to install.
[08:28] <dr_willis> if ya got multiverse enabled.
[08:28] <Xera> loool no
[08:28] <Xera> goto their website
[08:28] <Xera> and u just gotta import their key thing
[08:28] <Xera> >.<
[08:29] <dr_willis> Xera,  i am most definatly not trusting anything from the automatix guys :P
[08:29] <pacman> dr. willis: so it's talking about my sources.list?
[08:29] <dr_willis> esp when i can do all i need faster  by hand. :P
[08:29] <intelikey> i thought java was default in dapper  ???
[08:29] <pacman> dr. willis: what do I need to add to the sources.list then
[08:29] <h3sp4wn> that beerorkid repository is definately the devils work
[08:29] <dr_willis> !source
[08:29] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:31] <intelikey> h3sp4wn perhaps ubuntu main is
[08:31] <h3sp4wn> perhaps (but I don't really want to go down that road)
[08:31] <intelikey> :)
[08:31] <intelikey> nough said
[08:32] <Xera> so... anyone that can help me with my apache/php5 problem?
[08:32] <fdoving> Xera: sure.
[08:32] <Xera> whenever i try to open a php file, it just goes to download it
[08:34] <Ryoga85> hmm
 isphp enabled?
[08:34] <fdoving> Xera: missing AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[08:34] <fdoving> AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps
[08:34] <grisha_> I'm back.
[08:34] <fdoving> Xera: in apache.conf
[08:34] <Xera> fdoving: nope i'm not
[08:35] <Xera> Ryoga85: yes
[08:35] <fdoving> Xera: then force-reload apache.
[08:35] <dr_willis> http://cdw.sourceforge.ne
[08:35] <dr_willis> http://cdw.sourceforge.net
[08:35] <dr_willis> lol
[08:35] <fdoving> Xera: did you 'a2enmod php5' ?
[08:35] <Xera> uh wha?
[08:35] <tayirvadai_vikra> i am trying to play mp3 in amarok but it is not playing it and comes to the end of the playlist
[08:35] <tayirvadai_vikra> can anyone help me
[08:35] <pacman> dr_willis: I'm still lost
[08:36] <dr_willis> pacman,  ive forgotten what you were even doing. :)
[08:36] <fdoving> Xera: run 'sudo a2enmod php5' and force reload apache.
[08:36] <Xera> i can't force reload apache
[08:36] <Xera> Oo
[08:36] <pacman> dr_willis: still trying to get java to work...my live draft is in 20 minutes, and I need Java for it
[08:36] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: I suppose that makes etch god's response
[08:36] <Xera> [-k start|restart|graceful|stop] 
[08:36] <Xera> >_>
[08:36] <fdoving> Xera: restart then.
[08:37] <intelikey> h3sp4wn idk  ? !
[08:37] <fdoving> Xera: i have: Usage: /etc/init.d/apache2 start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload
[08:37] <Xera> wtf
[08:37] <fdoving> Xera: you're using apache2ctl ?
[08:37] <fdoving> Xera: use /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload
[08:37] <dr_willis> pacman,  install synaptic - with 'sudo apt-get install synaptic'    (for a start)
[08:37] <Xera> no idea >.<
[08:37] <grisha_> tayirvadai_vikra: Use XMMS.
[08:37] <Xera> i followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:38] <Xera>  * Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server...                                   Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.load:
[08:38] <Xera> Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:38] <pacman> ok
[08:38] <dr_willis> sudo synaptic
[08:38] <pacman> k
[08:38] <dr_willis> then  check the unsupported and proprietary software checkboxes,    and search for the sun-java5-bin  package and install it
[08:38] <intelikey> i'm still agravated that k3b doesn't work.  }:|
[08:39] <dr_willis> its also possible that the intall may fail..
[08:39] <tayirvadai_vikra> is there any support for mp4
[08:39] <grisha_> intelikey: What about nerolinux? Did it work?
[08:39] <dr_willis> if so...
[08:39] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install libqt-perl
[08:39] <dr_willis>   sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf
[08:39] <tayirvadai_vikra> in xmms/xine or any player
[08:39] <fdoving> Xera: are you sure you installed the 'php5' package?
[08:39] <intelikey> yeah it worked.   everything i've tried EXCEPT k3b works
[08:40] <Xera> ofc =.='
[08:40] <grisha_> tayirvadai_vikra xmms haz mp4 plugin
[08:40] <intelikey> grisha_ i got called to something eariler,  didn't mean to just vanish on y'all
[08:40] <fdoving> Xera: ok, try 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall php5;sudo a2enmod php5;sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart'
[08:41] <grisha_> tayirvadai_vikra  sudo apt-get install xmms xmms-skins xmms-mp4
[08:41] <amachu> Xera: u trying to install php>?
[08:41] <Xera> i have it installed
[08:41] <Xera> but, it doesnt work
[08:41] <Xera> it just downloads the file
[08:41] <amachu> aamachu.blogsopt.com
[08:42] <amachu> Xera: I hav shared my insatallation experience
[08:42] <amachu> Xera: @ aamachu.blogspot.com
[08:42] <grisha_> tayirvadai_vikra you can also install xmms-flac too. To play .flac files
[08:43] <tayirvadai_vikra> what is .flac file
[08:44] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:44] <dr_willis> hi
[08:44] <Xera> fdoving: nope, didnt fix it
[08:45] <fdoving> Xera: in the guide you followed, there is also a troubleshooting section: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-6ce180906ddbc141ef4b213f82465515a8ad3031
[08:45] <Xera> amachu: that's no help, sorry.. i've already installed amp, and when i try removing it, it doesnt remove anything
[08:45] <Xera> fdoving: oh, didnt notice that >.<
[08:46] <grisha_> tayirvadai_vikra flac is a lossles audio file format.
[08:46] <pacman> dr_willis: everything in synaptic that is java is installed, but it's still not working
[08:46] <dr_willis> 'is it live or is it flac;
[08:46] <fdoving> Xera: the you've done something special. It is as easy as installing apache and php5, 'apt-get install apache2 php5', then enable the php5 module, 'a2enmod php5', then restarting apache, '/etc/init.d/apache2 restart' - then it works on all my kubuntu machines.
[08:46] <grisha_> Acronym of Free Lossless Audio Codec
[08:47] <dr_willis> pacman,  java --version gives you what now?
[08:47] <pacman> 1.4.2
[08:47] <manu__> hi somebody can hel me?
[08:48] <Xera> DAMN IT
[08:48] <Xera> it still doesnt bloody work
[08:48] <Xera> :[
[08:48] <Dannilion> There's a 1.4.2?
[08:48] <dr_willis> pacman,  whats the full output? it saying sun java or jlc or somthing else?
[08:48] <manu__> i try to connect my wifi in kubuntu but i don't can
[08:48] <pacman> java version "1.4.2"
[08:48] <pacman> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)
[08:49] <Xera> http://88.109.144.134/index.php
[08:49] <Xera> :f
[08:49] <dr_willis> pacman,  you are using the GNU java . not suns
[08:49] <Xera> wtf
[08:49] <Xera> works now :O!
[08:49] <pacman> I didn't see any sun java
[08:49] <grisha_> tayirvadai_vikra: And download this skin (the most beautiful of all time) unzip it and copy the files to /usr/share/xmms/Skins  http://simon.porta.hu/Themes/MediaPlayers/Almond%20XMMS%20skin/Almond-XMMS4-pack.tar
[08:50] <dr_willis> sun-java5-bin
[08:50] <manu__> somebody can connect the wifi with kubuntu 6.06????
[08:50] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[08:50] <opsidao> manu__:  I guess many do ;)
[08:50] <manu__> tell me
[08:50] <UQlev> manu__, why not
[08:50] <Dannilion> java is in my list of updates
[08:50] <Dannilion> :D
[08:50] <Xera> thanks.. =D
[08:50] <dr_willis> sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun
[08:51] <opsidao> since the wireless assistant was added it is all much easier
[08:51] <manu__> the problem is KEY
[08:51] <pacman> apt-get install sun-java5-bin....couldn't find package
[08:51] <pacman> with sudo in front...my bad
[08:51] <manu__> are there some other assistant to conect my wifi?
[08:51] <UQlev> manu__, do you use /etc/network/interfaces to setup?
[08:52] <dr_willis> now you are back to setting up your repos.. which is why you fired up synaptic and CHECKED those 2 box's - you may of needed to UPDATE the package listing after checking those
[08:52] <manu__> UQlev i don't undestand you
[08:52] <UQlev> manu__, what key? WEP or WPA?
[08:52] <manu__> WEP
[08:52] <pacman> now synaptic doesn't want to run anymore
[08:52] <manu__> Hexa 128bytes
[08:52] <dr_willis> so in short.. sudo synaptic, check those 2 box's , update the package listing, then search for java
[08:52] <dr_willis> use sudo synaptic
[08:52] <dr_willis> :)
[08:53] <UQlev> what tool do you use to connect wifi? wifimanager under KDE?
[08:53] <manu__> UQlev no wirelessassistant
[08:53] <pacman> okay, I missed something then
[08:53] <pacman> which 2 boxes
[08:53] <pacman> *watches dr_willis pull his hair out*
[08:54] <UQlev> manu__, try to setup all parameters in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:54] <dr_willis> those 2 somewhere for comercial/unsupported  (those set up the MULTIVERSE and other repos)
[08:54] <intelikey> !repos > pacman
[08:54] <dr_willis> and yes - its a stupid name for them
[08:54] <UQlev> manu__, use small letters for your key
[08:54] <manu__> UQlev my networ are in DHCP
[08:54] <manu__> my key are numbers
[08:54] <dr_willis> or ya learn how to edit the sources.list :) and just uncomment the things like i do
[08:54] <UQlev> manu__, it is all right with static or dhcp
[08:55] <manu__> UQlev dhcp
[08:55] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[08:55] <dr_willis> with pictures! even!
[08:55] <UQlev> manu__, just setup for dhcp
[08:55] <dr_willis> 'non-free' = Multiverse
[08:55] <UQlev> manu__, read examples of config files for interfaces
[08:56] <manu__> when i delete the KEY for the AccesPoint I can connect without problem
[08:56] <manu__> perhaps if i change the KEY...
[08:56] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install sux
[08:56] <pacman> commer-dev I found
[08:57] <tuxedup> I dont suppose anyone has the tango icon theme for kde do they.  I tried to do it my self but it complained about imagemick
[08:57] <manu__> thanks for all
[08:57] <manu__> ;)
[08:57] <UQlev> manu__, if you delete the KEY everyone beside you may use your AP
[08:57] <ubuntu> so i'm trying to install kubuntu from the kubuntu live CD.  I've tried pokeing around with the help files and on the internet, but havent really seen anything about installing kubuntu from the live cd.  so can anyone tell me how to do it?
[08:57] <manu__> yes yes but if i don't delete the key i can't connect to my network
[08:58] <manu__> UQlev the trouble is my KEY
[08:58] <Freddy2> ubuntu: you have a shortcut in the desktop by default
[08:58] <intelikey> ubuntu you click the install icon
[08:58] <manu__> i try to put sudo iwconfig eth1 key s: KEY
[08:59] <intelikey> and the installer hoses your system for you, all automated and every thing.
[08:59] <intelikey> :)
[08:59] <K3B> mayby key open s:
[08:59] <K3B> "......"
[09:00] <Xera> lol, another question for ya, how do i upgrade KDE?
[09:00] <ubuntu> i'm not seeing the installer thing
[09:00] <ubuntu> where is it in particualr?  the k menue?
[09:00] <intelikey> it's the pointy clicky thingy way to render a box unusable = ubuntu live cd installer.
[09:00] <Freddy2> it's an icon called "install", in the top-left corner or the desktop
[09:01] <ubuntu> there are no icons on the desktop
[09:01] <Xera> Oo
[09:01] <intelikey> ubuntu on the desktop of the dapper live cd   if this is a breezy or before cd you can't install from it.    err not easily
[09:01] <Freddy2> oO
[09:01] <Xera> ur liveCD is probably mucked up
[09:02] <intelikey> Xera or eariler version
[09:02] <ubuntu> ok
[09:02] <Freddy2> i tried 6.06.1 LTS last week and all was fine..
[09:02] <intelikey> ubuntu if it's breezy or less  use the install cd to install it.
[09:03] <ubuntu> thanks
[09:06] <intelikey> while i thought the installer on the hoary install cd was krap  i must confess that every change made to it leading to the dapper live installer was 100% the wrong dirrection.
[09:07] <h3sp4wn> The knoppix / kanotix installer works really well (I don't know why they didn't use that)
[09:07] <soulrider> hi
[09:08] <intelikey> rather than the installer becoming more powerful and useful it became more clueless and useless
[09:08] <h3sp4wn> maybe they will start using the etch gui installer at some point in the future
[09:08] <intelikey> h3sp4wn i don't know either... maybe it was a 'pride' thing    "we use our own installer" ....  idk
[09:09] <dr_willis> the MEPIS installer is also very nice
[09:10] <intelikey> dr_willis by nice do you mean "does everything for you"   or  "lets you install anywhere and what ever you like"  kind of nice?    cause what some call nice translates to useless imo
[09:10] <soulrider> is anyon here in the fold@home team ?
[09:11] <h3sp4wn> nice to me installs as little as possible
[09:11] <h3sp4wn> but still allowing you the option of using apt to install anything you may want afterwards
[09:11] <intelikey> h3sp4wn or at least lets you choose what how and where you install
[09:11] <dr_willis> intelikey,  the mepis installer was flexavle enough to let me partition/format/setup the drives how i wanted. and w3asent so brain dead as to screw up my system :P
[09:12] <dr_willis> intelikey,  plus it dident let you set 'root' as the default 'first' user name either. :P
[09:12] <dr_willis> I still get issues with ubuntus update-grub stuff...
[09:12] <h3sp4wn> debootstrap is ok - but I don't see why it requires to install 300mb of stuff
[09:13] <crimsun> that's "base"
[09:13] <h3sp4wn> It still seems like it has more than it needs to
[09:13] <intelikey> dr_willis hehhe   root as first (default) user...  makes the rest of the setup easier.   :)
[09:14] <Xera> can someone give me a tutorial for upgrading KDE?
[09:14] <intelikey> h3sp4wn agreed   100m should be plenty for any base install.
[09:14] <K3B> how install Nessus??
[09:15] <intelikey> k3b i don't even want to talk to you.... i can't get k3b to work here.....   :)      sudo apt-get install nessus
[09:15] <intelikey> first half was joke ^
[09:16] <crimsun> back in the day one could debootstrap woody in the tens of megabytes. sigh.
[09:16] <intelikey> yeah.   but even now  when just the kernel is 70m  100m should be enough to get started.
[09:18] <intelikey> i mean look at dsl   that's running xorg  and only 50m
[09:18] <__osh___> If I think I've found a bug in the printer tool in the kde control center, where do I file it? Can't find anything called kprinter or similar. Anyone know?
[09:19] <dr_willis> intelikey,  and it totally breaks the sudo system :P
[09:20] <intelikey> sudo shmoo
[09:20] <intelikey> you can install sudo on it.
[09:21] <fernando_> hi! I have a brand new Kubuntu installation + Automatix but I can't watch some movies yet. I think it's a problem with the AC3 sound codec
[09:21] <dr_willis> smoo - command not found
[09:21] <dr_willis> :)
[09:21] <K3B> och really im write what you say and nothing intelikey ---
[09:22] <intelikey> you left the h out   lol
[09:22] <K3B> what are you say??---> great Ubuntu userr
[09:23] <fernando_> is there another AC3 codec available?
[09:23] <soulrider> !classroom
[09:23] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[09:24] <born> re
[09:24] <__osh___> fernando_: dont' think so. does sound work at all on your machine? can you play the oggs? next thing to try, can you play any mp3s?
[09:24] <born> in which repository can i find the sun-java5 and nonfree-flashplayer packages?
[09:24] <__osh___> !tell born about easyubuntu
[09:24] <fernando_> I can play music, mp3s, but some videos AVI with AC3 codec are the trouble
[09:25] <intelikey> !info nessus
[09:25] <ubotu> nessus: Remote network security auditor, the client. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.6-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 215 kB, installed size 568 kB
[09:25] <intelikey> K3B are you telling me that you typed in     sudo apt-get install nessus       and it did nothing ?
[09:26] <intelikey> i didn
[09:26] <K3B> yes
[09:26] <__osh___> fernando_: dunno. I've installed everything like that from easyubuntu and I have no trouble with any movies. Not that I watch that many anyway. Btw stay away from Starship troopers 2, Bloodrayne and Doom. They're all crap.
[09:27] <fernando_> torrent videos but with AC3 sound, and I already installed everything I saw at the ubuntu-guides and so
[09:27] <intelikey> K3B type   sudo echo 'yes it works'      and see what happens
[09:27] <danish> is there a simple way to install themes in kubuntu. like we install firefox extensions and themes  is there something similar in kde
[09:27] <intelikey> if it tells you       yes it works      good, if not your sudo is broke.
[09:28] <K3B> i don't know why but nessus can't install on my platform
[09:28] <intelikey> your platform ?
[09:28] <K3B> intelikey you joke it's no more fany
[09:29] <intelikey> no joke.
[09:29] <intelikey> only the first line was any joke.
[09:30] <mTec[s] nzk`insta> How do I create a bootable cd?
[09:31] <K3B> ok so in the moment i know nothing how install nessus
[09:32] <intelikey> simple test for sudo to make sure that sudo works is to type " sudo echo 'yes' "   if it asks password and then says  yes   then it works.  if it doesn't say  yes   it's sudo  that needs fixed.       if sudo works we check your /etc/apt/sources.list  file k3b
[09:33] <K3B> thanks
[09:33] <K3B> mayby it's can work
[09:33] <K3B> ok i must leave
[09:33] <K3B> papapap
[09:34] <intelikey> i think i better go.  storm is getting really heavy here.
[09:41] <galorin> Got a question for yall...  I cleared out the dust from my PC, that's all that I did.  Then, after I put the side back on, the PC wouldn't even POST.  Had to move a card from one PCI slot to another one to get it to boot.  Why?!?
[09:42] <flo__> can someone help me install vmware-olayer? apt-get install gives me thiss error dpkg: errore processando /var/cache/apt/archives/vmware-player_1.0.1-4_i386.deb (--unpack)
[09:43] <danish> galorin: if u used a brush a string of hair might have gotten stuck btwn slots which is shot circuting that particular area
[09:43] <abattoir> flo__: there should be more of that error... could you pastebin it... ?
[09:43] <abattoir> !pastebin
[09:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:44] <flo__> right away
[09:45] <flo__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21229
[09:46] <galorin> danish, no brushes, just air.
[09:47] <abattoir> flo__: see line 12
[09:47] <abattoir> flo__:  license could not be presented; aborting
[09:47] <flo__> yes but why?
[09:48] <flo__> i'vd tried with the tar installer and i cant get to read the license
[09:49] <flo__> it stops here
[09:49] <flo__> Unable to copy the source file ./installer/services.sh to the destination file
[09:49] <flo__> /etc/init.d/vmware.
[09:49] <flo__> Execution aborted.
[09:49] <abattoir> flo__: well... for some reason the EULA thing is not loaded
[09:49] <flo__> oops sorry
[09:50] <abattoir> flo__: hm... is this for the deb or the tar?
[09:50] <flo__> sorry but i'm a newbe in the linux world ,whats eula?
[09:51] <abattoir> flo__: that's actually a more MS-ish term.. End-User License agreement :)
[09:51] <__osh__> flo__: end user license agreement. the thing you just click "yes" on when you install  new software in ms-land.
[09:51] <otaku-san> flo_: in other words...the evil
[09:51] <saltro> alguien que hable en espaol?
[09:51] <__osh__> !es
[09:52] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:52] <flo__> abattoir: my problem is that it's not showing me anny license and for that i cannot acceptit
[09:52] <saltro> holaaaa
[09:52] <flo__> sorry for my english either
[09:52] <saltro> alguieb por ahi ?
[09:53] <flo__> any idees
[09:53] <otaku-san> __osh__: true so true....heheh sorry been around to many hard core linux users
[09:53] <Freddy2> saltro: ya te han dicho que hay canales para espaol.. este canal es para hablar en ingles
[09:54] <abattoir> flo__: one  sec... i'll try installing to see if that helps
[09:54] <Polarbeer> I need help burning an audio cd with K3b from mp3 files. It claims that they can't be burned "due to an unsupported format".
[09:54] <flo__> thx
[09:55] <flo__> abattoir: thx for the help
[09:55] <saltro> freddy si cache solo keria saber si ahbia alguien de mi pais no te preocupes que me voy altiro ;)
[09:55] <saltro> ok men
[09:56] <__osh__> !tell saltro about es
[09:57] <otaku-san> ....I don't think theres a ubotu for that...heheh ;)
[09:57] <dragonkh> grisha_: heya - thanks for the help earlier I now have my dual head running nicely :)
[09:57] <otaku-san> oh and he did...I just was able to understand from there conversation what they said
[09:58] <grisha_> dragonkh: yw
[09:58] <otaku-san> *just able too
[09:58] <dragonkh> grisha_: do you know anything about compiz :)
[09:58] <abattoir> !info libk3b2mp3
[09:58] <ubotu> Package libk3b2mp3 does not exist in dapper
[09:58] <grisha_> dragonkh: nope
[09:58] <abattoir> !info libk3b2-mp3
[09:58] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.14-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 96 kB
[09:59] <abattoir> Polarbeer: do you have that installed? ^^^^
[09:59] <Polarbeer> dunno, let me check...
[09:59] <abattoir> flo__: i'm not exactly on a fast connection... so it might take some time...
[09:59] <dragonkh> :)
[09:59] <__osh__> !info drupal
[09:59] <ubotu> drupal: fully-featured content management/discussion engine. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.5.8-1 (dapper), package size 476 kB, installed size 1944 kB
[10:00] <flo__> abattoir: i can wait
[10:00] <abattoir> flo__: ok :)
[10:00] <Polarbeer> abattoir: no i haven't
[10:00] <abattoir> Polarbeer: ok, then please install it :)
[10:00] <__osh__> Now that's a shame. Drupal 4.5.8 is an ancient version. Too bloody old to be useful to anyone. I think the #drupal guys are at 4.7 something.
[10:01] <Polarbeer> ok
[10:01] <alex_> sorry i have a stupid question, but how to get symbols like the dust bin and my home directory on my desktop??????????
[10:01] <abattoir> Polarbeer: that is needed for k3b to decode the mp3s
[10:01] <Polarbeer> I see
[10:01] <I_Died_Once> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[10:01] <abattoir> !adept crash fix
[10:01] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this command in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[10:01] <abattoir> I_Died_Once: try the 'sudo fuser...' command
[10:02] <abattoir> alex_: you can drag and drop them from the menu to your desktop....
[10:02] <Polarbeer> abattoir: you are my hero of the day! thank you a thousand times!
[10:03] <I_Died_Once> I still get the same error
[10:03] <abattoir> Polarbeer: no problem :)
[10:03] <abattoir> I_Died_Once: do you have another instance of adept/apt-get/synaptic/aptitude running?
[10:04] <I_Died_Once> no, i've restarted the system several times since getting it and coming here
[10:04] <Agios> delete the lok files
[10:04] <Agios> lock
[10:04] <I_Died_Once> where are they?
[10:05] <alex_> it doesnt work?
[10:05] <I_Died_Once> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock  - - did not work
[10:06] <abattoir> alex_: you mean the drag and drop doesnt work?
[10:06] <Agios> /var/lib/dpkg/
[10:06] <Agios> there are two IIRC
[10:07] <I_Died_Once> rm lock
[10:07] <I_Died_Once> /var/lib/dpkg$ ls
[10:07] <I_Died_Once> alternatives   cmethopt        info     parts             status
[10:07] <I_Died_Once> available      diversions      lock     statoverride      status-old
[10:07] <I_Died_Once> available-old  diversions-old  methods  statoverride-old  updates
[10:08] <alex_> no
[10:08] <alex_> it doesnt work!
[10:09] <I_Died_Once> bleh, its about time to reinstall a new flavor of linux anyway
[10:10] <abattoir> flo__: can you re-try installing the .deb... because i'm shown an EULA
[10:10] <ulixes> qualcuno italiano??
[10:11] <abattoir> !it
[10:11] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:11] <abattoir> ulixes: ^^^
[10:11] <abattoir> or flo__ could help you :P
[10:11] <ulixes> ok :D
[10:13] <flo__> abattoir: did u use adept?
[10:13] <abattoir> flo__: nope... apt-get
[10:13] <abattoir> flo__: it shouldnt work w/ adept... as it cant handle interactivity well
[10:13] <flo__> i'll try again!!!
[10:15] <flo__> abattoir: i think i can doit with synaptic :-)
[10:16] <abattoir> flo__: hmmm... i dont know... from what i've heard synaptic doesnt do that well either... but then i havent tried...so dont know
[10:18] <flo__> donnit...the console inside synaptic works well it seems, thx for the help
[10:18] <abattoir> flo__: ok... np :)
[10:22] <Ademan> ubuntu has no "registry" like windows right? or one that can be modified by any old program right? its only for configuring gnome... right?
[10:23] <abattoir> Ademan: linux doesn't work like windows... hence no registry... about gnome configuration, i think you are better off asking at #ubuntu
[10:24] <Ash-Fox> !adsl
[10:24] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[10:24] <Ash-Fox> !pppoa
[10:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pppoa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:29] <kim_> Hello
[10:29] <dragonkh> hi
[10:29] <kim_> Can someone help me with a Konqueror issue?
[10:30] <dragonkh> whats up ?
[10:31] <kim_> well... whenever I click a link on a PHP site (that leads to another PHP page), Konqueror doesnt know what to do with the link... it asks me if it should open it in Kate or download it :S
[10:31] <fdoving> that's a server problem, most likely.
[10:32] <fdoving> kim_: does for example: http://frode.kde.no/ip.php work?
[10:32] <kim_> it happens on several sites, ubuntuforums is one of them
[10:32] <fdoving> oh.. ok.. hang on then.
[10:33] <kim_> fdoving, the page works, but if I would click a link... it would complain
[10:33] <fdoving> kim_: ok, understand. did you edit filetypes for konqueror?
[10:33] <kim_> fdoving, no. It started happening after I upgraded to KDE 3.5.4
[10:34] <fdoving> kim_: ah.. kde 3.5.4 on dapper has some issues.
[10:34] <kim_> fdoving, ahaa :/
[10:34] <kim_> fdoving, any way to fix it?
[10:35] <fdoving> kim_: anyway.. if you open konqueror -> configure konqueror -> file associations -> search for php
[10:35] <D4rkly> anyone know how i can manually install the w32 codecs ? cant see them in adept ?
[10:35] <fdoving> kim_: what do you have there?
[10:35] <kim_> fdoving, I will look
[10:35] <kim_> fdoving, x-php
[10:36] <kim_> fdoving, no application is assosiated with it..
[10:36] <fdoving> kim_: ok, what about the embeded tab?
[10:37] <flo__> abattair: i'm installing window$$ on vmware this way i can  view the zbrush site that usses flash9 (these suns of a %&&%$) kubuntu roks
[10:37] <Ademan> abattoir: so i can simply delete all of the files and directories the program created? (as long as it wasnt installed through a package manager) ?
[10:37] <kim_> fdoving, "Ask whether to save to disk instead" is checked. and the only entry in Services is "Embeded Advanced Text Editor"
[10:37] <slow-motion> n8
[10:37] <Freddy2> fdoving: i think it's only for local files, not for links inside the web browser
[10:38] <fdoving> Freddy2: that depends.
[10:38] <luxlux> is the current apt.sources accurate? or did i need to use mirrors?
[10:39] <leticia> hola
[10:39] <kim_> hola
[10:39] <leticia> soy nueva
[10:39] <Freddy2> #kubuntu-es para hablar en espaol
[10:41] <leticia> es que tengo una mierdita de modem.. y estoy probando todas las cositas de linux.......
[10:41] <leticia> por linux digo
[10:41] <fdoving> !es
[10:41] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:41] <leticia> ok.......
[10:41] <waspius> i just reinstalled kubuntu and i am setting it up...whick is the proper xine player?
[10:42] <Freddy2> "proper xine player"???
[10:42] <waspius> apt-get install xine what?
[10:42] <Freddy2> hmm i use adept and mplayer.. sorry XD
[10:43] <waspius> xine is for dvd etc
[10:43] <Freddy2> mplayer too
[10:43] <fdoving> waspius: the good old xine player is in the 'xine-ui' package.
[10:43] <waspius> fdoving: ok thanx allot
[10:43] <Freddy2> but mplayer rox
[10:43] <Freddy2> XD
[10:45] <kim_> fdoving, I fixed it. The problem was with HTML. so I set it to embed HTML in the same window using KHTML
[10:45] <kim_> fdoving, now it works! =D
[10:45] <fdoving> kim_: great! :)
[10:46] <waspius> fdoving: i installed but it came up twice in multimedia menu:(
[10:46] <fdoving> kim_: that's logical, as php scripts spit out html, just me not thinking. :)
[10:47] <kim_> fdoving, lol. Well, the error is also mine then since I knew that PHP is translated to html by the server...
[10:51] <kiwi> khkjhkjh
[10:53] <kiwi> hmmm what is this
[10:54] <jarska> hi guys
[10:54] <kiwi> hello
[10:54] <jarska> I'm having a problem with kaffeine media player
[10:54] <kiwi> your not the only one
[10:55] <jarska> orly :D do ya guys know how to fix it?
[10:55] <StrudelNinja____> Is kde-look.org the best place to look for kde themes?
[10:55] <StrudelNinja____> I was having problems with amaroK, I unintalled and reinstalled and it fixed them
[10:56] <Freddy2> StrudelNinja____: that's a great place, yes
[10:56] <jarska> this says something like "error while loading a library or an unpacker. dvixc32.dll
[10:57] <Freddy2> jarska: try mplayer
[10:57] <jarska> hmm...
[10:58] <D4rkly> if i try and play a .mov the sound is very slow and lots of clicking ??
[10:58] <D4rkly> http://images.apple.com/movies/wb/the_wicker_man/the_wicker_man_1080p.mov
[11:00] <StrudelNinja____> and how can I find out my KDE version? if possible?
[11:00] <Freddy2> well, go to konqueror / help / about kde (for example)
[11:00] <StrudelNinja____> ah
[11:00] <StrudelNinja____> that was obvious ><
[11:12] <ulixes> a question
[11:12] <ulixes> how to register a nick?
[11:13] <ulixes> i do not remeber
[11:13] <ulixes> the command
[11:13] <Freddy2> /msg nickserv help
[11:13] <ulixes> ok thz
[11:14] <jarska> i just installed my mplayer but i cant find it,
[11:14] <jarska> sorry i'm beeing noob.
[11:15] <Freddy2> jarska: which mplayer?
[11:15] <jarska> mplayer.
[11:15] <jarska> :D
[11:15] <Freddy2> nono XD try in console -> which mplayer
[11:16] <jarska> thnx
[11:18] <Ryoga85> | bye all people on freenode | [amsg] 
[11:19] <jarska> why nothing happens when i try to open mplayer?
[11:19] <jarska> on konqueror
[11:19] <jarska> *in.
[11:20] <Freddy2> mplayer is a command line program
[11:20] <Freddy2> if you want gui try gmplayer
[11:20] <Freddy2> but better check if it works at command line.. it's possible that you need to install some codec packs
[11:21] <cvasilak> people please update your kubuntu with the latest packages from beerokid in particular the libfreetype stuff, the fonts now look AWESOME, REALLY AWESOME!!!
[11:21] <jarska> i am so fucked up with this linux.
[11:22] <Hawkwind> jarska: Easy on the language please
[11:22] <jarska> hawkwind: k
[11:22] <Search4Lancer__> anyone know how I can get pics off my Sony camera via USB? Apparently Kubuntu doesn't like it
[11:23] <jarska> so what do i have to do to open the mplayer?
[11:23] <Freddy2> type gmplayer
[11:24] <Freddy2> but having only installed it you won't probably be able to play many files.. there are lots of missing codecs as i've said
[11:25] <D4rkly> anyone know how i can play .mov's smoothly ??
[11:25] <Ash-Fox> # I just died in your arms tonight, must of been something you said.
[11:25] <Freddy2> D4rkly: with which player?
[11:26] <D4rkly> in konq
[11:26] <Freddy2> kmplayer plugin?
[11:26] <D4rkly> not sure :)
[11:26] <Freddy2> xD
[11:27] <cvasilak> join #freetype
[11:27] <phreakys> damn those mesa drivers
[11:27] <D4rkly> 2 secs ill try in kaffeine
[11:27] <phreakys> slow shit
[11:28] <phreakys> i need it to be ati again, but its all mesa now
[11:28] <phreakys> dont know how
[11:28] <phreakys> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_8.26.18_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually.
[11:28] <phreakys> followed this crap tutorial
[11:28] <Freddy2> fglrx?
[11:30] <D4rkly> still f****d in kaffeine :) http://images.apple.com/movies/wb/the_wicker_man/the_wicker_man_1080p.mov
[11:31] <Freddy2> D4rkly: for third time tonight -> switch to mplayer (and install kmplayer plugin for konqueror if you use this browser)
[11:31] <phreakys> yea
[11:31] <phreakys> fglrx shit
[11:32] <Freddy2> hmm
[11:32] <Freddy2> !fglrx
[11:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:32] <phreakys> tnx, ill try that
[11:33] <bauch> hi@all
[11:41] <_gpg_> hey
[11:41] <fdoving> hi.
[11:52] <grisha_> bye all. Good night.
[12:02] <mr_clark> Hi guys. I installed Debian and upgraded kde to 3.5.4 from Kubuntu packages. How do I select 3.5.4 in Debian? When I restart X I still get 3.3.
[12:02] <rOOb> hello all i kinda want to try xgl and everything so im folllowing this how-to : http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=617.0 and i added the deb repos recomended but when i use apt-get update i get this : http://pastebin.ulteo.us/61 how can i fix this any ideas?
[12:03] <Freddy2> hmm are debian and kubuntu repositories "compatible"?
[12:03] <mr_clark> I thought they were. Am I wrong?
[12:04] <crimsun> generally, no, unless you mean source-wise, in which case the answer is "only sometimes."
[12:04] <waspius> hi...if i install build-essentials do i need anything else with it?
[12:05] <mr_clark> okay. Then that probably explains the problems I'm having. So is there a way to get 3.5 on Debian without installing Kubuntu. Yes, I know thats a risky question to ask in a Kubuntu channel.
[12:05] <Hawkwind> rOOb: As the how-to on my forums state, you need to import the keys.  It's merely a warning letting you know that you don't have the right gpg key imported for the repo.  It won't hurt anything if you ignore it
[12:05] <Hawkwind> waspius: Depends....most likely not.  But it all depends on what the app you are wanting to compile needs/requires
[12:05] <waspius> ie..do i need to install any dependencies it might have?
[12:06] <Hawkwind> mr_clark: Might ask in #Debian since that channel is geared towards their distro
[12:06] <rOOb> Hawkwind, i dont see any where it says how to import the keys?
[12:06] <Hawkwind> waspius: If you use sudo apt-get install build-essentials it will install the deps for you
[12:06] <waspius> Hawkwind: ok thanx
[12:06] <Hawkwind> rOOb: It doesn't tell you that.  Just ignore it.  It's not going to hurt anything
[12:07] <rOOb> Hawkwind, k.....i just wanted to make sure that they where added..
[12:07] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Look at the post on the LFD forums that has the sources.list  and grab a command from there and modify it
[12:08] <rOOb> k will do that thanks man
[12:08] <h3sp4wn> mr_clark: sid has 3.5.4 - etch has 3.5.3