[12:56] <\sh> good morning :)
[12:57] <\sh> I need some help with bzr source uploads to bazaar.launchpad.net
[12:59] <\sh> I just uploaded the source files for kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts to sftp://shermann@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts/ubuntu ... and now I need to register a branch to the product...what is the download url for this branch? 
[09:32] <rjian> hello just wait to ask... how can i create a team?
[09:56] <jamesh> rjian: https://launchpad.net/people/+newteam
[12:43] <Bader> hi
[12:46] <jenda> hello
[12:46] <jenda> Any LP.net administrators around?
[12:50] <jenda> darn, is there a mailing list of launchpad admins to post to, or should I just choose one of them...?
[12:59] <LarstiQ> jenda: there is the support tracker, or the launchpad-users list in general
[01:22] <LarstiQ> jenda: what do you want to ask them?
[01:24] <steveire> I ordered ten cds to where I am living now, but in less than two weeks I won't be living here anymore. Will it be a problem for me to order new cds if they don't arrive?
[01:25] <steveire> 10 CDs requested in 2006-07-25. 10 CDs approved and sent to the shipping company in 2006-07-25.
[01:26] <lifeless> steveire: its not a problem, but it would be nice if you got your mail etc forwarded
[01:26] <steveire> how big will the package be?
[01:26] <lifeless> we may be able to issue updated address instructions, if you contact the shipit people - theres a link/mail address on shipit about that
[01:27] <steveire> I'm moving from Germany to Ireland you see...
[01:27] <lifeless> 10 cds, in cardboard slips
[01:27] <lifeless> bag around them, thats the lot.
[01:27] <steveire> ah.
[01:47] <jenda> LarstiQ: sorry, was away
[01:47] <jenda> I'd like a project registered.
[01:47] <lifeless> jenda: what project ?
[01:48] <jenda> ubuntu-marketing
[01:48] <lifeless> projects are fairly heavyweight, nearly all things open source are best represented as products
[01:48] <jenda> In order to unite the fridge, uwn, ubuntu-magazine, spreadubuntu and other products
[01:49] <jenda> ubuntuvideo is one other that comes to mind - and there will most probably be more: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam
[01:53] <jenda> lifeless, so you think it's a no-go?
[01:53] <lifeless> well, its not as clear as say gnome or kde, and I do wonder why these products wouldn't be managed the way other ubuntu products are:
[01:54] <lifeless> which is that they have a group for them that matches the relevant org structure
[01:54] <lifeless> but are essentially free-floating
[01:54] <jenda> hmm
[01:54] <lifeless> If you could email launchpad-users asking for it to be made, and what you want from having a 'project' that may get you some good idea on achieving your goals
[01:55] <jenda> Well, i had a look at the list of projects in launchpad, and they didn't seem to be as clear as GNOME or KDE, mostly.
[01:55] <lifeless> a launchpad project offers some specific things - if you need those, then a project is likely appropriate. I'm not in a good position to judge right now though
[01:55] <jenda> OK, I'll do that.
[01:55] <steveire> I emailed info@shipit.ubuntu.com about the address issue. Still not sure what to do about it, but no harm done I guess.
[01:56] <jenda> Which specific things would those be? (Apart from allowing products to be grouped together)
[01:57] <lifeless> unified view on translations
[01:57] <lifeless> unified view on bugs
[01:57] <lifeless> unified view on specifications
[01:57] <lifeless> thats about it
[02:00] <jenda> That's pretty much what I was looking for.
[02:01] <jenda> The groups working on the individual products overlay each other loosely, and all communicate on #ubuntu-marketing and the ubuntu-marketing mailing list (with the exception of #ubuntu-fridge).
[02:42] <LarstiQ> lifeless: can projects contain other projects?
[02:42] <lifeless> nope
[04:44] <phanatic> afternoon
[04:47] <jenda> ftanun
[05:10] <panickedthumb> hullo everyone. I'm trying to do the following, per PlanetUbuntu wiki page
[05:10] <panickedthumb> $ bzr checkout sftp://jrhakr@bazaar.launchpad.net/~planet-ubuntu/config/main planet-ubuntu
[05:10] <panickedthumb> but I'm getting this:
[05:11] <panickedthumb> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: /home/travis/sftp:/panickedthumb@bazaar.launchpad.net/~planet-ubuntu/config/main/
[05:11] <panickedthumb> any ideas?
[05:13] <jenda> panickedthumb: you might want to try #bzr
[05:14] <panickedthumb> good idea
[05:14] <jenda> and I think you checkout through http, not sftp
[05:14] <panickedthumb> thought you had RL work to do ;)
[05:14] <jenda> I do, but I didn't force myself to get up yet.
[05:14] <panickedthumb> I'll try that too
[05:15] <LarstiQ> panickedthumb: it looks like you are using bzr 0.8, and you are missing paramiko (due to a bug in 0.8, it isn't notifying you of that very well)
[05:19] <panickedthumb> ahhh, ok
[05:20] <panickedthumb> yes, just checked, it's 0.8
[05:20] <jamesh> panickedthumb: you don't have paramiko installed
[05:21] <panickedthumb> well, http worked fine
[05:21] <jamesh> the SFTP implementation in bzr depends on the paramiko library
[05:22] <panickedthumb> yeah, gotcha. I installed paramiko for any future needs
[05:22] <panickedthumb> thanks :)
[05:23] <LarstiQ> panickedthumb: you're on dapper?
[05:23] <panickedthumb> yes
[05:23] <jamesh> panickedthumb: also, if you configure your ~/.ssh/config file correctly, you can leave the "panickedthumb@" bit out of the SFTP URL
[05:23] <LarstiQ> I wonder if it is worthwhile to get 0.9 into dapper now
[05:24] <panickedthumb> well, crap, now I'm getting this:
[05:24] <panickedthumb> travis@eniac:~/planet-ubuntu$ bzr add heads/panickedthumb.png
[05:24] <panickedthumb> bzr: ERROR: No WorkingTree exists for /home/travis/planet-ubuntu/.bzr/checkout/.
[05:25] <jamesh> did the failed checkout leave any garbage behind?
[05:25] <panickedthumb> perhaps. I'll rm -rf and try again
[05:25] <LarstiQ> that's funny
[05:26] <jamesh> jenda: the longer you wait to ask your question, the longer it will take to get an answer ...
[05:26] <jenda> :)
[05:27] <jenda> I would like to know more about Rosetta. In particular, what would be necessary in order to translate things like the Fridge or the UWN.
[05:27] <jamesh> fridge UI or fridge stories?
[05:28] <jamesh> I don't think Rosetta is that well suited to documentation translation
[05:28] <jenda> Both, i suppose, but mainly stories.
[05:28] <jenda> Hmm
[05:28] <jenda> But Desktop Guides are translated.
[05:28] <jenda> and other docs too.
[05:28] <jenda> and it works great...
[05:29] <jenda> (I was more worried about Rosetta being able to supply translations on the fly)
[05:29] <jamesh> if you want a better answer either (a) email launchpad-users with your question, or (b) come back on a weekday in European time
[05:29] <jamesh> (the guys responsible for Rosetta are in Spain and Serbia)
[05:30] <jenda> OK
[05:30] <jenda> I'll email the list - I just did with another question...
[05:33] <panickedthumb> fyi, appears you have to use sftp. http didn't bring down any authentication, etc.
[05:33] <phanatic> jamesh: the translation import queue is also checked only on weekdays?
[05:34] <jamesh> phanatic: I don't know.  You'd have to ask carlos or danilos
[05:34] <LarstiQ> panickedthumb: 'bring down authentication'?
[05:35] <phanatic> jamesh: thanks
[05:35] <jamesh> panickedthumb: you can't push changes to bazaar.launchpad.net via HTTP if that's what you mean.
[05:35] <phanatic> danilos: ping