=== lophyte [n=dave@HSE-MTL-ppp70578.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === lophyte [n=dave@HSE-MTL-ppp70578.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === lophyte [n=dave@HSE-MTL-ppp70578.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MenZa [n=menza@0x535de848.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === jenda_ [n=jenda@195.47.80.185.adsl.nextra.cz] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:46] poningru I've done a couple of sections === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === lophyte [n=dave@HSE-MTL-ppp70578.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjian [n=Bxserv@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:55] hello people === poningru_ [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [03:25] did someone do uwn? [03:25] frack [03:27] seriously no one? === Rinchen [n=Rinchen@ubuntu/member/rinchen] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjian [n=Bxserv@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:00] good morning [04:13] poningru, johnlittle said he did some on uwn [04:14] yeah but we need to do community news === poningru is working on linux expo stuff [04:14] but we need more stuff added in [04:16] talk to john about it i guess [04:17] ... elkbuntu oh comeon you can come up with something right? [04:17] johnlittle: ping [04:18] poningru, unfortunately not at the moment. got people coming around in half an hour for a bbq [04:19] :( [04:19] err have fun :) === Madpilot [n=brian@S0106001150603f7d.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:20] greetings all [04:20] poningru, i hope so.. maybe this fellow has some ideas [04:20] johnlittle, you know you can upload images directly to the wiki? [04:28] Hey MAdpilot. [04:28] Madpilot* [04:30] hi MenZa === Pyrotica [n=Sunergos@213-250.207-68.se.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:38] madpilot: I just assumed that I couldn't. I'll go check it out [04:39] johnlittle, before you hit the Edit link, look in the dropdown menu to the right of it - one of the options is "Attachments" [04:39] cool. thx [04:43] I'm changing my UWN stuff now [04:44] :) [04:46] done [04:46] madpilot: thx for the tip [05:00] np === rjian [n=Bxserv@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Pyrotica [n=Sunergos@213-250.207-68.se.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] === MitchM_ [n=mitch@bouncer.kci.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Steggy [n=josh_ste@p119n38.163.63.ruraltel.net] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] === johnlittle [n=john@adsl-70-241-145-135.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:19] johnlittle: ping [06:19] johnlittle: pong [06:19] having fun? [06:19] lol [06:19] I just realized the UWN is doc team project [06:20] it was originally...it got changed to a marketing team project for one reason or the other [06:20] you need to be in with the dev's for a lot of it, and you have to scour the heck out of all the mailing lists [06:21] yeah..been contributing where i can [06:21] i used a feature in kontact, as i subscribe to all the mailing lists pretty much..and i have it create a report for the week of .... and then i have pretty much everything i need [06:21] should I edit the wiki then..it says its a doc team project [06:21] general community news is the easiest...there was linux world and ubucon this week, so those will be the 2 biggest stories [06:22] then you need to add the latest edgy releases for each distro, dapper updates for each distro, and meeting minutes for each distro if there are some [06:22] if there are no minutes, gotta read the #ubuntu-meeting logs and in a way make them yourself...that kinda stinks [06:23] this week i didn't pay attention to much as the UWN was going to be handled by someone else, so i laid back a little and worked on some doc work and packaging..and now some sleep i think [06:24] Whos that someone else? [06:24] i think matthewrevell, but i could very well be mistaken [06:24] right..but he is dealing with his dad [06:24] thats right === MitchM__ [i=MitchM_@72.174.227.36] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:25] forgot about that [06:25] well then, everyone could chip in === MitchM__ waves === MitchM__ is now known as MitchM [06:25] hiya MitchM [06:25] I've dont three sections so far [06:25] done [06:25] I can do the general community news too [06:25] enjoyed the e-mail you sent out to the mailing list nixternal [06:25] heh, i send out many...which one? [06:26] i was i bitching in it at all? [06:26] "Step down considerably" [06:26] i believe to be the subject [06:26] thats the john baer one i think [06:26] oh just stressed some good market points [06:27] so how's the channel tonight? everyone alive and well? [06:27] i actually had someone tell me that door-to-door isn't grassroots..i about fell out of my chair at the utter stupidity of the comment...door-to-door is where grassroots originated, before the word technology was even known ;) [06:28] im just stopping in..i had a very exciting day at the air&water show in chicago [06:28] ah very nice [06:28] i got rid of the rest of my ubuntu disks, 200+...handed out who knows how many flyers..gave a speech today at a local university [06:28] good stuff [06:29] meh; the poor kid probably thought grassroots meant windows 3.1 [06:29] *nods head in shame* [06:29] lol [06:29] oh very nice nixternal... [06:29] im trying to organize my local lug into another install fest [06:29] i wanted to setup demo machines..but the electrical union in chicago wouldn't allow it [06:29] bah... [06:29] blast them. [06:29] i have an install fest wednesday i believe [06:29] expected attendance? [06:30] i don't know what im going to do..i hope i get another shipment of disks in [06:30] 100+ [06:30] yeah... we seem to be short on all our disks [06:31] im hoping to make it strictly ubuntu..but i know the college lug will be there with their gentoo and slackware disks...they tried last time..and only had 15 or so, while me and the other Ubuntu Chicago guy had 80+, including a few women [06:31] did you happen to see the YouTube video of the Ubuntu cd's being destroyed? [06:31] ya, i could have used those [06:31] ;) [06:31] =) same [06:31] MitchM, link me? [06:31] Oh geeze... [06:31] let me look :-) [06:32] lol [06:32] http://youtube.com/watch?v=-RpoWKpAL9Q [06:32] and there you go. [06:32] fthat was quick [06:32] he has it bookmarked [06:32] http://youtube.com/watch?v=-RpoWKpAL9Q (for posterity sake) [06:32] johnlittle: how come that isn't posted on ubuntuvideo? [06:32] i mean, that is an ubuntu video [06:32] lol. === MitchM woudners. [06:32] typo... bah. === johnlittle points towards marketing 101 [06:33] you can't only show the positive, gotta show the negative as well [06:33] johnlittle, isn't Marketing 101 "There is no such thing as bad PR?" ;) [06:33] is that a rule? [06:33] :-) [06:33] madpilot: only if youre paris hilton [06:33] lol. [06:33] johnlittle: i take it you have seen the vw commercials where the car gets totalled? [06:33] I was going to say something; but i decided not to [06:34] there is a message behind it, turn the video into a message [06:34] id rather not popularize that activity [06:34] like.... at the end make a penguin hack him to pieces? [06:34] i finally understand nixternal... [06:34] i can spin it but id rather not highlight it [06:34] OK, the dumb laughing in the "soundtrack" of that just makes me snicker [06:35] agreed [06:35] as is the fact that they're using an axe on carpet - their mom is going to ground them all... :) [06:35] so I was going to buy a loco related domain name "locolinux.com" -- but I really have no purpose for it lol [06:35] one of those _sweet_ preemptive strikes... [06:36] I was going to register "windowsvirusta.com" ;) [06:36] =) [06:36] heh, i have free vista cd's coming from msdn [06:36] locolinux = cool double meaning though [06:36] crazy for linux [06:36] + you know === nixternal works on creating a vista hammer time video [06:36] nixternal, you own an axe, right???? [06:36] haha yup [06:36] lol! [06:36] the suse commercials are awesome: http://youtube.com/watch?v=kIKI2piZsWg [06:36] Now that I _would_ post [06:37] what self respecting hillbilly wouldn't own an axe ;) [06:37] *raises hand* [06:37] but i have a shotgun... [06:37] that would make a nice twist [06:38] "boom goes windows" [06:38] MitchM, shotgun + Vista CDs... obvious, really ;) [06:38] lol. [06:38] "Shooting out windows" [06:38] oh, i have plenty of firearms now...im a gun toting 20+ year nra member ;) [06:38] haha === MitchM bows to the NRA gods === nixternal screams "PULL!" [06:38] Vista Skeet Shooting [06:38] lol [06:38] I like that idea [06:39] My company subscribes to the windows action-pack [06:39] the ubuntu dolls video is still kickin' butt [06:39] if nothing else all our cd's have "microshaft" on them... === MitchM rubs hand together [06:39] hands* [06:40] windows smash: http://youtube.com/watch?v=6JtHDkM9JhM === poningru_ [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:41] well [06:42] not what I was expecting [06:42] but still pleasing to the eyes [06:45] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9BON5nd8Fg [06:53] short & strange: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51bfLmkwHkA [06:54] nixternal, is that ^^^ the 'Ubuntu dolls' video you meant, or is there another one? === Burgundavia [n=corey@adsl-75-10-71-233.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:15] johnlittle, tomboy's actually already been covered in UWN - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue2 [07:15] Madpilot: tomboy as default part of the desktop is new [07:15] tru [07:15] true, even [07:15] so you can briefly say it is and then link back [07:16] ok I'll kill it [07:16] no, don't kill the whole section [07:17] I wasn't suggesting that..I'll do something else [07:17] sounds good [07:22] johnlittle: are you working on the weekly news? [07:24] burgundavia: I'm working on Ubuntu Video but was going to edit UWN in a few minutes [07:24] very cool [07:24] I am going to work on it later tonight [07:24] I've add three sections but need to edit the tomboy part [07:24] added [07:25] was about to add the golden penguin story but it was added to the fridge as I was working on it === niKsternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:38] Roblimo has given me permission to deep link his videos on linux.com and other sites so I'm working up a special page for folks without Flash [07:38] http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/linux_com_ubuntu_videos [07:38] cool === niKsternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@dialup-4.159.11.222.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Steggy [n=josh_ste@p119n38.163.63.ruraltel.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:09] Burgundavia: I'm done with UWN if that deskbar writeup works for you [08:10] Burgundavia: Hrm lemme edit photo..nm [08:12] johnlittle: ok, I will start editing and hopefully we can get this out [08:13] Burgundavia: I need about 2 minutes [08:13] ok, will wait [08:18] good to see some life in here today :) [08:18] indeed [08:18] hey elkbuntu [08:19] I had a question for you, but I forgot what it was :( [08:19] about the counter or the surveys? [08:19] maybe the former [08:20] the survey stuff should be combined with the /mystory stuff [08:20] I have been speaking with Chris Kenyon here (he was at Ubucon) [08:20] after the results are in, you mean? [08:20] yes [08:20] anyway, chat with him [08:22] yeah, i am anticipating that the MarketingTeam/Research page can act as a hub for anyone to go to to get research information and stuff.. it's only young yet. andreas' other survey stuff is linked from there also [08:23] i think maybe once it's established we might move it to just /Research or something also [08:27] Burgundavia: Done. sry about the delay. [08:27] no worries [08:29] speaking of chris.. anyone know what the winning tshirt design was? [08:29] no idea [08:30] i havent heard/noticed anything since.. and it's been 11 days since the deadline :| [08:30] Burgundavia!! [08:32] hey poningru [08:32] ok, lets get this UWN out [08:36] so sorry about this /me was working on something for wikipedia [08:37] no worries [08:37] I am working on it now [08:39] Burgundavia: Done. I forgot to add a sentence about adding deskbar to a panel. I can do that quickly once you've made your edits [08:39] Burgundavia: are you working on expo stuff? [08:40] LWE? I was [08:40] gnome booth, not Ubuntu one [08:40] Burgundavia: no talking about putting brief para about the expo in the UWN [08:41] the suse stuff is hilarious...poor guys [08:41] hehe yeah === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:46] johnlittle: all yours [08:47] Burgundavia: yay [08:47] ;) [08:48] let me know when you are finished, I will get this thing finished and out the door [08:49] anyone know how matthewrevell and his father are? [08:49] no, what was the issue? [08:49] not really sure. he was waiting on test results the other day [08:49] so sounds sort of evilly serious :( [08:49] hmm, that is too bad [08:50] yeah, cant help but to feel bad for them [08:51] absolutely [08:52] Burgundavia: done [08:52] elkbuntu: please feel to proof it while I search for further content [08:53] whats the url? [08:53] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue10 [08:53] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue10 [08:53] johnlittle: hah, beat you ;) [08:53] wow, nice synchronisation there [08:53] lol [08:53] youse both got to me at the same second [08:55] want me to edit out the errors, or write em down? [08:55] elkbuntu: edit them out [08:55] I am currently in content searching mode, not creation [08:56] I'm in error creation mode ;) [08:56] right === elkbuntu prods the wiki with a pokin' stick.. "Wake up!" [08:56] I am perpetualy in that mode [08:56] woohoo. finally loaded the edit page [08:58] nixternal: UWN. got any content? [08:58] hmm.. does: Jorge Castro and Corey Burger with Canonical's Malcolm Yates sound better than: Jorge Castro and Corey Burger and Canonical's Malcolm Yates ? [08:58] is that not the same? === elkbuntu dislikes and and and and things.. not sure what others think though [08:58] yeah [08:58] yes, lots of ands are bad [08:58] change as needed [08:59] elkbuntu: can we not go: Jorge, corey and canon's malcom [08:59] elkbuntu, drop the first 'and', just use a comma [08:59] dont forget to add names to the credits [08:59] what he said ^^^ [08:59] Madpilot, ok.. i barely passed english in highschool.. so im a bit cautious about jumping in on some things ;) [09:00] heh. English was the one course in high school I consistently did well in :) [09:00] elkbuntu: hehe me too, I only took one english course in college === poningru again wonders who runs the ubuntu wiki [09:01] Madpilot, our exam was absolutely pathetic.. 'compare the symbols of light and dark between MacBeth and The Year of Living Dangerously' [09:01] I want to add couple of lines to each wiki page [09:01] err hold on [09:02] poningru, change the template for every page, you mean? [09:02] I'll be right with you to help out (if still possible) [09:02] Just got up. [09:02] Madpilot: sure [09:02] Madpilot: well yes and not [09:02] hold on i want to apply this patch to our wiki [09:03] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/Skin.php?r1=15930&r2=16137&sortby=date [09:03] grr wtf [09:03] ok well he didnt do that patch correctly [09:04] but basically I want to add that [09:04] poningru: we use moinmoin [09:04] getting ready for firefox 2.0 ;) [09:04] right [09:04] oh [09:04] anyway, who is currently editing? elkbuntu or poningru? === poningru isnt [09:04] i am.. slowly [09:04] ok, no worries [09:06] She's renaming it Elbuntu's Weekly News [09:06] grr I'm buying a new keyboard in the morning [09:08] johnlittle: /me has a bunch lying around you can have one if you find a way to get it to you [09:08] johnlittle, lol [09:10] poningru: thx..i have some corded ones in the closet but I'm going to go replace this wireless one with an upgraded model [09:10] elkbuntu: ping me when you are done === poningru gasps [09:10] johnlittle: spoiled :p [09:10] lol [09:11] well i should be spending my money on women and beer tonight but I'm working on UWN..that alone is enough savings for a keyboard [09:11] just hit save, Burgundavia [09:12] so give the darn thing a few seconds to compute ;) [09:12] er minutes you mean [09:13] basically just re-worded the first community news to flow a bit better [09:13] ok, added new sections [09:13] feel free to undo it all ;) [09:13] Corey and Melissa need to be added to the credits [09:14] yep [09:14] all i did was change words around... [09:14] elkbuntu: what is your last name? [09:14] Draper [09:14] added [09:15] ok, what else do we need? [09:15] ugh, i feel dirty.. just booted the laptop into 'the other OS' to refresh myself in the workings of the opencd :| [09:15] bad elk [09:15] i sort of need refreshing before i try pimp it on sfd :P [09:16] Anything for the bug stats? [09:17] right, will do that [09:19] elkbuntu: uh... you were kidding right? [09:19] draper I mean [09:19] elkbuntu: let me know if you need help with the opencd [09:20] bug information added [09:20] nice [09:21] poningru, i dont need help, i just need to refresh myself with what is where so i dont fumble and look like a moron === johnlittle decides not to make a joke [09:22] poningru, and... what do you mean am i kidding about my surname? [09:25] ok, need another round of feedback [09:25] I think we are ready to print [09:26] gimme a few to skim over the new bits [09:27] Burgundavia: where do you get the bug information? [09:27] not the security... [09:28] lp [09:28] oh.. didnt know it had that capabliity [09:28] should the new apps in edgy be bulleted? [09:29] it is very basic [09:29] yes [09:29] it's kind of hard to read [09:29] oh, right, that is a bug [09:29] elkbuntu: you still editing? [09:30] almost done [09:30] we need to do this stuff in gobby [09:30] gobby? [09:30] I will setup a gobby session on my server when I get home, to deal with it [09:30] collaborative editor [09:30] woah [09:31] allows us all to edit at the same time [09:31] ok... i've hit save.. i keep forgetting to hit 'trivial change' to avoid spamming people :| === poningru wonders why openoffice doesnt have stuff like this [09:31] heh you can see Automatix in the screenshot for deskbar..should I redo it or does it matter? [09:31] not really === rjian [n=Bxserv@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [09:32] good [09:32] hello people [09:33] hello person [09:33] Burgundavia, is there any more to be added or is it ready to roll? [09:33] pretty much ready to roll [09:33] :) [09:33] roll away [09:33] johnlittle: you want to honours to send it this week? [09:33] I will tell you when [09:34] I am going minor wording edits [09:34] probably undoing the edits i did :P [09:34] Burgundavia - How is it sent? [09:34] johnlittle, got a dinner bell to ring? [09:35] lol [09:35] "Come n' get it!" [09:35] pretty much you copy the raw code and send it to ubuntu-news [09:35] let me do a final edit and then we are good to go [09:37] Burgundavia: Do u have anysuggestion?? I will be conducting FOSS conference on my place this comming september... [09:37] hmm, not really in a place to help you right now [09:37] In a mall with free wifi and I need to get UWN out before it closes [09:39] hmmm [09:39] johnlittle: can you edit the news template to be the same as the #9 (mostly the footer about being a marketing team effort) [09:39] johnlittle: sorry, to be clear, just change the footer [09:39] elkbuntu, johnlittle: final changes? [09:40] Burgundavia: No changes here [09:40] ok, adding toc [09:41] hmmm maybe after may documentation i can participat here.. hehehe [09:43] Burgundavia: template edited [09:43] thanks [09:44] final final sanity check [09:44] image missing on the kubuntu post? [09:45] johnlittle: you need to copy https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue10?action=raw to an email and email it to ubuntu-news@lists.ubuntu.com [09:45] I will approve it through [09:45] I killed the kubuntu thing [09:45] ah [09:45] screenshot was not ready [09:45] elkbuntu: you think we are good to go? [09:45] sec.. [09:46] looks good to me [09:47] ok, john, send that email [09:47] subject Ubuntu Weekly News #10? [09:47] yes [09:47] remeber to kill any signatures [09:48] Burgundavia: sent [09:49] cheers [09:49] they can close the mall now [09:49] dude, your paste was off [09:49] please resend [09:49] eh I checked..what was wrong with it? [09:49] cut off at the developer notes [09:50] resend, it might be a mailman issue [09:50] yeah i see the whole thing in sent email...resending [09:51] not seeing it yet [09:51] resent [09:51] I hope it doesn't get stuck on the back of a slow truck *grin* [09:52] ok I see the same error, but I trust you [09:52] yikes. [09:52] sure it's not a mail client error? [09:52] I'm looking at my sent mail again..I show the whole thing [09:53] johnlittle: umm, ick, you sent HTML email, but it did get through [09:53] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news/2006-August/000049.html [09:53] well, that is it for me [09:53] night everybody [09:53] night Burgundavia [09:54] whoa, looks I came just late [09:54] bugger :( [09:54] Is there anything to help with left? [09:54] dont think so... === jenda bangs head on wall === elkbuntu comforts jenda [09:56] Missed this, missed that... the leader of the Czech loco pung me a while ago and now he isn't there. That's what I call being absent from the right place at the right time. [09:56] dont fret too much jenda. you cant be everywhere all the time [09:56] :) [09:56] jenda, :| i think you do enough to be able to miss 1 or 32 things [09:56] hehe [09:57] exactly [09:57] :) [10:00] oh..one of the benefits associated with sending UWN appears to be getting the out of office replies people send [10:00] Shouldn't "the Novell team strong showing" be "the Novell team's strong showing" ? [10:00] eeps.. i didnt notice that :| [10:01]