[12:13] <\sh> uploading wine_0.9.19-0ubuntu1 [12:15] Uhm, I asked for a sync of wine [12:16] <\sh> bddebian: we are using winehq packages for wine...which is 0.9.19 and not 0.9.15 :) [12:17] Ah [12:17] <\sh> debian has old stuff ;) and I trust scott very much :) [12:20] hi \sh [12:20] hey bddebian [12:21] Heya bmonty [12:22] <\sh> moins bmonty [12:23] \sh: does the new version of wine build for amd64? [12:23] <\sh> Rejected: [12:23] <\sh> Not permitted to upload to the RELEASE pocket in a release in the 'CURRENT' state. [12:23] <\sh> it will not build at any time with this message...wtf [12:23] <\sh> bmonty: I can't test on amd64 anymore..I gave away my amd64 to my son who is now in NZ :) [12:24] \sh: I can test on amd64 [12:24] <\sh> universe is still open for merges [12:25] <\sh> oh I'm stupid [12:25] <\sh> edgy not dapper lol === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:28] Heya LaserJock [12:29] hi bddebian === Hawkwind [n=SoS@ulteo/community/leader/forum/admin/Hawkwind] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU [12:42] crimsun: -rpath worked, thanks (took some time, I really hate scons..) === pounk [n=pounkf@142-217-81-161.telebecinternet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shawarma [n=sh@vega.linux2go.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:22] <\sh> going to bed...good night folks :) [01:25] lfittl: scons is fun man.. ;-P [01:26] bddebian: simple makefiles, and nothing more, thats the best build system ;) [01:27] but on the positive side I was able to replace FMOD with OpenAL for FreeOrion, turned out they already have support, its simply not activated :) [01:29] Nice [01:38] OK, what do I do about an ambiguous reference to a function? I assume it should be something like foo::get_action()? [01:38] Stupid question time. [01:39] I am not an MOTU, and I have built a package that I want MOTUs to look at and potentially sponsor [01:39] so I read REVU is the place for this [01:39] Yes [01:39] and I also read that you have to SSH somewhere as a MOTU to build things on REVU? [01:39] Not required [01:39] And I also also read you should be able to upload things from the web :) [01:40] Upload things from the web? [01:40] well, I assume there is a web interface to get my package onto the REVU site\? [01:41] No, dput [01:41] plug: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU?action=show&redirect=MOTU%2FHopeful%2FREVU [01:42] thanks, some of the pages contradict themselves a little [01:45] right! one package hopefully there at the next build :) === Nafallo plays with his mailserver ;-) [01:46] all emails for all domains is found through postgresql :_) [01:46] :-) [01:46] and all auth is against postgresql :-) === theCore [n=alex@modemcable069.137-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:01] ...nothing has happened. any REVU ppl about? === Plug pings ajmitch [02:07] Plug: Have you already sent your key and got a response? [02:08] To Launchpad, yes [02:08] No, for REVU === pschulz01 [n=paul@202.174.42.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:09] Or can that be done on LP now? [02:09] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU again is ambiguous [02:09] upload your key, join the 'ubuntu universe contributors' team [02:09] which is just a click [02:10] chat here yesterday sounded like revu synced against that every now and then [02:10] Plug: it's manually synced now and then, yes. [02:11] so unless an admin has synced it by hand recently... [02:11] right [02:11] crimsun: !! What do I do about an ambiguous reference to a function? === Plug pings ajmitch again ;) [02:12] bddebian: make it unambiguous? :) [02:12] sorry, I'm fighting to back up my HD before it dies completely [02:13] the SATA HD on this X41 is about to die (spewing lots of medium and autoreallocate failed errors via dmesg) [02:13] Ugh [02:13] Any other REVU key-syncin'-admins about? [02:13] guess I know what my paycheck is going to, heh [02:15] How do I make a C function unambiguous in in C++? It comes from gtkmm. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:15] Heya Hobbsee [02:15] hi bddebian [02:16] bddebian: extern "C" {} ? === trpr_ [n=ftg2@69.92.30.201] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore_ [n=alex@modemcable069.137-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ctd_ [i=ctd@2001:388:c152:6:0:0:0:70] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore__ [n=alex@modemcable069.137-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] lfittl, heh, I'm converting fmod to sdl_mixer in an app I want in Ubuntu. Why do they pick fmod in the first place, I wonder. [02:38] Yagisan: believe me, I don't know, there is no good reason to choose FMOD over OpenAL (or sdl_mixer if you need simpler stuff), but some projects simply don't think about it and are then to lazy to change.. [02:39] lfittl, well, I got svn access to my one, and am demonstrating that the users don't need fmod, as I rip it out [02:39] :) [02:41] anyway, after having spent 2 hours debugging freeorion (throws an exception every time you actually want to play..) without finding the problem, I am tired, gn8 everybody === Pyrotica [n=Sunergos@213-250.207-68.se.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral_Laptop [n=Kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] moins MOTU's ;) [03:18] Heya ibm [03:18] Err imbrandon [03:18] hehe ;) [03:19] bddebian: hey working on anything atm? mind if i query you ? [03:19] Nah, I am never working on anything :-) [03:19] hahah shush LP says diffrent hehe [03:19] ok lemme grab a soda, then i'll brb [03:19] OK [03:20] hi imbrandon [03:20] oh man, more mt. dew [03:20] Ack, don't start that again :-) === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@ppp18-57.lns2.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@221.Red-83-58-174.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:24] hahah [03:24] heya LaserJock [03:25] ok actualy i could ask the stuff in here since others might benifet heh [03:25] People could benefit from me showing my ignorance? :-) [03:26] bddebian: basicly i'm taking the SoC that Riddell mentiond a few minutes ago that needs packin and trying to pack it, cept there are a fwe things i have never done before and dunno where to look for answers , so guess what ;) [03:26] main thing being it dosent use autotools , i've never done a package from scratch that dont use auto tools [03:27] bddebian: hehe or LaserJock and others can chime in too ;) [03:27] OK, what's the build system? Is there one at all? [03:27] a home grown ./install file [03:27] cool [03:28] http://www.micoulou.info/kformat/KMFormat0.1beta.tar.gz <- thats the orig , i untared it and make a kmformat_0.1+0.1beta.orig.tar.gz [03:28] imbrandon: It's no problem. Basically you just replace the ./configure and/or make lines with the appropriate commands [03:28] and then got to looking and i'm like ummmm hell i dunno what to do, so i figured this would be a good chance to learn ;) [03:29] umm there isnt a ./configure and no top level makefile either, hehe lemme pastbin the install file [03:30] imbrandon: Does the install do the build and install? [03:30] yea [03:30] and doc install and everything [03:30] its a bash script that does everything by hand incluging chekinmg the libs are installed [03:30] one sec pastbining it [03:31] http://pastebin.ca/139592 [03:32] i dont think dh_make will help much as thats the only way i've ever done one from scratch heh but i guess its time to learn ;) [03:33] Oh, that's ugly [03:33] heh its a SoC project lol [03:33] Basically you will have no configure or build targets [03:33] dh_make will be fine, you will just need to rip out a lot of stuff [03:34] k [03:34] single bin dh_make done [03:34] Skipping creating ../kmformat_0.1+0.1beta.orig.tar.gz because it already exists [03:34] Currently there is no top level Makefile. This may require additional tuning. [03:34] Done. Please edit the files in the debian/ subdirectory now. You should also [03:34] check that the kmformat Makefiles install into $DESTDIR and not in / . [03:35] ^^ foreign to me [03:35] heh [03:36] so realy i need to redo what he does in debian/rules ? or do i just call his script from debian rules ? [03:36] Meaning you want to install in debian/kmformat/foo not / [03:36] Call install from install: [03:36] Remove build: and/or configure: if they exist [03:37] Basically instead of calling ${MAKE} install, you will call ./install [03:38] clean: ? [03:38] Clean you will need [03:38] Because you will have to make the resulting dir structure look like it did/does from the tarball [03:39] k [03:40] http://pastebin.ca/139610 [03:40] and now i need to go into his src/Makefile and change the stuff to $DESTDIR ? [03:41] imbrandon: Right but you would have to see if ... exactly :-) [03:41] or the install [03:41] or both [03:41] heh [03:42] install: build, you need to drop "build" since you have no build target anymore [03:42] ahh right [03:43] so does it even need the binary-*: stuff ? [03:43] with no build target ? [03:44] I believe you at least need the binary-arch: but drop the "build" of course === beshy [n=beshy@85.89.201.75] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:46] bddebian: ok hows this lookin, got it all ripped out [03:46] http://pastebin.ca/139617 [03:46] hrm what about -$(MAKE) clean in clean: since there is no toplevel makefile [03:48] Does he have a Makefile at all? [03:48] src/Makefile ( called from ./install ) [03:48] and a Makefile.am in the top dir [03:48] You could try ${MAKE} -c src clean [03:49] k [03:49] so with the DESTDIR do i cange the ./install or src/MakeFile or both ? [03:50] change* [03:50] Check src/Makefile to see if it already handles DESTDIR [03:50] QMAKE_TARGET = KMFormat [03:50] DESTDIR = [03:50] TARGET = KMFormat [03:51] yup but blank [03:51] That's OK, you are passing it [03:51] k so no change needed [03:51] Nope [03:51] whew [03:51] heh [03:51] Obviously his install file may have path issues for you to look at though [03:52] ok as far as debian/rules this should be ok then [03:52] ok ./install now heheheh /me looks [03:52] hard to say yet but worth a try :-) [03:52] hehe right right === imbrandon should talk him into using autotools for 0.2 ;) [03:52] cp KMFormat /usr/bin/X11 [03:52] mkdir /usr/bin/X11/kmformat [03:53] Like that stuff will probably need to be mkdir debian/kmformat/usr/bin/X11... [03:53] ugh why is this going in X!! ? [03:53] X11 i mean heh [03:53] Yeah, that doesn't look right to me but I'm an idiot [03:55] heh i'll package it this way and show Riddell tomarrow about it , i think he is his mentor [03:55] i'm just going off of .... [19:33] well, as it happens, we do need someone to package SoC project kmformat http://www.micoulou.info/kformat/KMFormat0.1beta.tar.gz [03:55] ;) [03:55] :-) [03:56] ok http://pastebin.ca/139632 [03:56] so in that does the cp README blah need to be cp debian/...../README too ? [03:57] Probably not the best solution but should work [03:57] k [03:57] so basicly all the patch in that prefix with debian/....... [03:57] paths* [03:58] Yeah [03:58] heh ok i'm dumb but even the cd src to cd debian/kmformat/src ? [03:58] Where's that? [03:59] if [ "$USER" = "root" ] [03:59] then [03:59] cd src [03:59] make [03:59] Oh, no, that stays [03:59] k [04:01] ok i guess time to test it ( then i can worry about the copyright etc if it works hehe [04:01] ) [04:04] bddebian: ok well i guess that answers that [04:04] heh lots of errors [04:04] it dident like the -c src clean for one, i can change that ........ next [04:05] /usr/bin/make -c src clean [04:05] /usr/bin/make: invalid option -- c [04:05] needed to be -C , hehe my bad ;) [04:06] http://pastebin.ca/139645 [04:07] bddebian: ^^ i guess that menas it needs qmake in deb control ? [04:08] err not [04:08] Whoops, my bad, I should have specified -C [04:08] hehe no prob [04:08] you see that last paste [04:08] Plug: source-only uploads please [04:09] imbrandon: Yeah, it's still trying to call build somewhere in debian/rules [04:13] hum i dont see it anywhere http://pastebin.ca/139651 [04:15] Hmm, maybe build: has to be there, just leave it empty? [04:15] bwhahaha that was that [04:15] ok now lets see how this works [04:16] bddebian: yes, as stated in policy [04:16] OMG lintian go's nuts but it atleaste builds now heh [04:17] ajmitch: Policy, what's that? ;-P === ajmitch gives up [04:17] heh [04:17] haha === Nafallo ponders what might be the best way to have postfix use procmail for virtual users ;-) [04:18] @4:18 AM :-P [04:18] Nafallo: Error: "4:18" is not a valid command. [04:18] ehm... wtf [04:18] heh [04:18] @now us/central [04:18] imbrandon: Error: "now" is not a valid command. [04:18] Current time in US/Central: August 19 2006, 21:18:50 [04:18] @time us/central [04:18] Current time in US/Central: August 19 2006, 21:18:56 [04:18] imbrandon: Error: "time" is not a valid command. [04:19] ugh two bots that respond to @ [04:20] Tonio_: ping [04:23] hi ajmitch === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:28] hello LaserJock [04:31] Holy cow k3d is a pig [04:31] oh my donkey, bddebian will soon have a farm ;-) [04:32] heh [04:32] I don't have a donkey yet, so watch out.. ;-P [04:32] Though I do have crimsun's pony [04:32] *whoops* [04:33] I have a donkey :-) [04:33] donkey.magicalforest.ebn has address 192.168.66.6 [04:33] donkey.magicalforest.ebn has IPv6 address 2001:16d8:ff96:1:250:fcff:fe89:efe1 [04:33] :-) [04:33] or rather, my girlfriend has :-) [04:34] heh === Pyrotica [n=Sunergos@213-250.207-68.se.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:38] '' [04:38] LaserJock: EYES! :-D [04:39] sorry, that's my niece [04:39] she's 1 1/2 [04:39] ah, how friendly of her to give you eyes :-) === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:53] heh [04:55] heh, that was fun [04:55] she was running the mouse [04:55] loved the scroll wheel [04:57] ajmitch: I didn't get a source-changes file [04:58] (when I built the package) === Pyrotica [n=Sunergos@213-250.207-68.se.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Riddell [i=jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/gosub] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:11] dang. it doesn't seem like its going to be easy to package my source afterall :( it requires a shared library that isn't currently provided by any other package === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:35] trpr_: package that lib too [05:35] :-) === hub has a package here that needs clear licensing from upstream :-/ [05:38] licensing isn't fun [05:38] hrm. well. a package exists, the lib is just missing from it. i need a shared library of the koala.jar file (libkde3-java).. i would expect to find it in libkde3-jin, by its description [05:38] libkde3-jni that is === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:46] according to rdale, there is a bug in the kde libtool which prevents these shared libraries from being created during compilation of the bindings... explains why the library doesn't exist in the package :\ === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:15] Plug: debuild -S -sa [06:16] thanks, I'll do that now [06:16] is my key synced to rEVU? [06:17] should be now [06:24] Do we have any packages in universe (preferably games) that use cmake rather then autotools ? === Yagisan need to brush up cmake style packaging [06:24] trying again. [06:24] I think the version number is probably wrong === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:51] crimsun: hi [06:54] crimsun: I wanna split a package in sid into three packages ,so what shall I do === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu === [jb] [n=juliano@c-71-204-5-104.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:56] freeflying: please rephrase? [06:58] crimsun: scim-bridge in sid goes into one binary package, since there are great changes in new upstream release, so I wanna split it into three binaries, then what shall I do for it [06:59] Add three the two other binary packages to debian/control and adjust build system accordingly? :-) [06:59] -three [06:59] crimsun: shall I discuz with my sponsor? [06:59] freeflying: right, it seems a fairly straightforward approach. [06:59] bddebian: I see === bddebian still needs a sponsor [07:00] bah, who needs sponsors? ;-) === imbrandon does too === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-213-192.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:01] LaserJock: me :) [07:01] bddebian: I didn't think dieties needed sponsors [07:01] crimsun: thanks [07:01] np === bddebian pokes LaserJock [07:02] hehe [07:02] darn, I should have slipped a certain wiki page into my Ubucon talk [07:02] Don't make me break out the lasers [07:02] "And this is what happens when you contribute a lot" ;-) [07:03] it's much too late; you're already in the list of LP's top Ubuntu contributors. === Burgundavia [n=corey@adsl-75-10-71-233.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-213-192.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:11] Holy crap, k3d finally finished [07:11] hey bddebian [07:12] Hi Burgundavia === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:13] Gnight folks === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-213-192.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === niKsternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === niKsternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu === redguy [n=mati@acm239.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=anant@62.114.91.26] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:20] I need help [08:20] what is NMU thing ? [08:20] AnAnt: a debian term meaning "non-maintainer upload" [08:20] ubuntu really doesn't have that concept, as all packages are more or less group maintained === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:24] ic [08:25] Burgundavia: thank goodness for that :P [08:25] Burgundavia: ok, can you tell me what is wrong with this Lintian output as far as Ubuntu is concerned ? http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/kchmviewer-0608190710/lintian [08:25] AnAnt: sorry, nope [08:25] so far I got the svn-commit.tmp file problem [08:26] Hobbsee: indeed. I saw you touched a gnome package. Did you need to take a shower after that ;) ? [08:26] Burgundavia: more than one. and i was severely tempted. [08:26] I am truly sorry [08:26] Burgundavia: i can cope with doing various packaging bits on them, as long as i dont have to use them :P [08:26] hehe === Hobbsee was considering installing ubuntu-desktop yesterday [08:27] I gather you resisted the urge? [08:27] hello world [08:27] Burgundavia: so far, yes === ajmitch rejects yet another bug related to the vte backport [08:29] I have a question [08:29] I get a warning that there is an svn-commit file [08:29] what should I do to fix that ? [08:29] I tried deleting it, but that won't fix anything ! [08:29] I think because the .orig tarball has that svn-commit file [08:31] oh, he meant that I should run linda/lintian on the binaries ! [08:31] ok, nevermind fellas ! === AnAnt [n=anant@62.114.91.26] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [08:39] heh i put ubuntu on the laptop and kubuntu on the desktop, thats about as far as i'm gonna take it ( as i dont use the laptop much , and when i do its to ssh into the desktop or vnc ) === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-062-241-239-3.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:42] how fast would it get rejected if I uploaded a package with package name 'retard'? === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-213-192.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:43] bluefoxicy: do you need to even ask? [08:44] Burgundavia: yes~ [08:44] Burgundavia: I just had about the coolest (and probably evilest) idea ever [08:44] I have a game shark for my game boy [08:44] and it has this thing where you play and then hit a button and it goes back to the shark; then you enter the game again, play, hit the button again, goes back to the shark again [08:45] and shows you a line-up of all memory addresses and which ones are different; and you can search for a value [08:45] so I am thinking about writing a reverse engineering tool that does exactly that, on Linux programs; but the only title I can come up with is Reverse Engineering Tool for Analysis and Reverse Development (RETARD) [08:46] From #ubuntu : " flubs: dpkg -l | grep '^ii' | awk '{print $2}' | xargs apt-get install --reinstall --force-yes -y " -> doesn't htat look evil? [08:46] Burgundavia: if you have any better names to contribute I'm open. [08:46] carthik: yes, but I've done that before [08:46] bluefoxicy: I would honestly not even tread there [08:46] hey ajmitch [08:46] carthik: using the -n option with xargs tends to make it run smoother :) === Zdra [n=zdra@45.250-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:47] hello Burgundavia [08:47] COLUMNS=150 dpkg -l | grep '^ii' | tr -s' ' | cut -d\ -f2 | xargs -n apt-get --reinstall install [08:47] or something like that [08:47] Burgundavia: not into programs that can only be used for purposes illegal in most significant places in the world? [08:47] hi ajmitch, channel displacement calculation error on my part. Was meant for #u-offtopic :) Thanks for the info. [08:47] passing --force-yes is generally a bad thing [08:48] StevenK: wasn't dpkg fixed to not require COLUMNS set? [08:49] Maybe. I keep passing it because my muscle memory says so. [08:49] bluefoxicy: good idea , bad name ;) [08:50] imbrandon: I know. It's the only thing I can branch off "reverse engineering tool" that makes sense and is obviously not the name of any other tool [08:50] I was gonna call it "REShark" after the GameShark, but .... um. trademark <-> anal rape [08:51] gnushark ;) [08:51] lol [08:51] LinFish [08:51] I've seen a hardware PCI gameshark! [08:51] I think they're illegal now because of what you can do with them [08:52] but it was actually GameShark brand [08:52] heh , i have a snes and gb rom image of the shark here somewhwere, i had a ps1 rom images too but they got corrupted when i tried to patch them for the xbox ps1 emu [08:53] imbrandon: I loved the damn thing either way. I never carried a code book; when I wanted infinite lives I'd juts play the game twice, die once, scan for the number of lives i had before and after to match in the appropriate snapshots, and then try out ~5 addresses [08:53] and bingo. Infinite lives. [08:53] ajmitch, imbrandon, Hobbsee: suggestions for UWN packages (or other things) === imbrandon thinks * [08:54] bluefoxicy: yea you can do that with the current emu's they have the genie and shark built in [08:54] and let you pause and watch mem registers realtime in a sep window [08:54] oh holy crap sweet. [08:57] imbrandon: if you're into stuff like that elfsh is probably the coolest thing in existence right now [08:57] cool, whats that ? [08:57] an elf shell :) === Hobbsee think stoo [08:58] it lets you do things like inject code into running programs, load random libraries, muck around with variables, the usual debugger stuff [08:58] ahh very nice [08:58] http://elfsh.segfault.net/ [08:58] sounds like an easy way to segfault something though given the fagile nature of elf bins though ;) [08:59] hahaha just happens to be on segfault.net after i say that [09:00] yeah, solar loves it. [09:01] plain C injection , now /thats/ nice^Wnasty [09:02] lol [09:03] we did some code for RunUO that let us wrap a windows exe and do dll injection into the running process , THAT was fun [09:03] hah [09:03] I did a practice DLL injection the other day [09:03] had to dig up some old, old stuff [09:03] yea you can end up doing some neat stuff what that if you take the time [09:04] yea most of the info on it is ancient [09:04] except this DLL injection was across a network and threw a VNC DLL into RPC using MS03-026 (that really old vuln that Blaster used) and got me remote vnc [09:04] we did that in ummm 2002 and it was old then [09:04] I never got around to porting a milw0rm .c file onto metasploit [09:04] Burgundavia: oh! new login screen for kubuntu! [09:04] wanted to gather some data to write a book about hacking up [09:04] Hobbsee: right, can you pm me the dtails? [09:04] ahh yea Burgundavia new kdm screen ;) [09:05] (black AND white) [09:05] bluefoxicy: heh [09:05] I figure if we train security professionals to be blackhats, they can figure out what the blackhats are doing and more effectively set up strategic roadblocks [09:06] I expect most of the real world to react.......... the same way they did back in the dark ages. [09:06] heh never, they will never take the time to be true blackhats as long as they are only learning it to "prevent" [09:06] This one guy during a war a long time ago was developing strategy for his country's army [09:07] and what he was doing was conjecturing how barbaric armies would likely invade, and designing defenses against those tactics [09:07] and people usually would just try to figure out defenses [09:07] and they were like, "HOLY CRAP, YOU ARE SICK, YOU THINK ABOUT EVIL THINGS!" [09:07] bluefoxicy, you missed the grey hats. [09:08] Yagisan: I thought grey hats were flip-flops that did bad things on the side :( [09:08] bluefoxicy, nope, my definition is a white hat that makes sure he gets paid >:) [09:09] anyway, it's 3am, I should sleep and let the SNR get back to normal [09:10] what's "normal" ? [09:10] heh gonight, thanks for the link, i'll check it out later when i have some free time ( yea right ! ) lol [09:10] "normal" is when I'm not flooding the channel with offtopic crap :P [09:11] also when i'm not being recognized by an automated system as being a bigger contributor than bddebian ever though I do basically nothing. [09:11] s/ever/even/ === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:11] imbrandon: np [09:16] imbrandon: you able to get that picture too me in the next half hour? [09:16] Burgundavia: yea let me finish this svn checkout then i'll restart kde [09:16] sounds good [09:19] or hrm i guess i could just xnest it, heh since i have to use ksnapshop to grab a pic anyhow ;) [09:19] s/shop/shot/g [09:19] yep [09:25] eww i dunno if it shows up in Xnest as intended , look ...... [09:26] http://imbrandon.sytes.net/ss6.png [09:28] imbrandon: hmm, nothing to compare that too [09:29] uptill now it looked like the dapper kdm [09:29] but it looks like its missing images [09:29] the buttons shouldnt be purple and the middle stripe shouldent be purple [09:30] they both should be black === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:42] imbrandon: I need that screenshot now [09:43] well i onestly cant get it to behave right, still looks broke [09:43] ok, no worries [09:43] and kwwii isnt on [09:43] we can cover the new theme next week [09:43] can you write that? [09:43] yup [09:44]