[12:01] <Flannel> expatrick: doubt it
[12:01] <Dev05> Herbal, That should fix it.
[12:01] <lamego_> digital__, you can also: sudo fuser -cuk /var
[12:01] <SillyZ> q: how is ubuntus access to ntfs partitions? is it still in the questionable stage or is it actually workable now with the newer kenerels ?
[12:01] <Herbal> Dev05: awesome now it works, will i have to do that every session or its good to go now?
[12:01] <lamego_> digital__, but you should boot into recovery mode
[12:01] <Dev05> Herbal, Nope, Is done.
[12:01] <Lobster> n8
[12:01] <Flannel> SillyZ: you can read fine
[12:01] <tulio> does anyone know the repos for gtkextra??
[12:01] <Herbal> Dev05: thankyou for your help :D
[12:01] <soundray> jackn: the main arguments against having an unlocked root account are in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:01] <Dev05> Herbal, np.
[12:01] <bruenig> !info gtkextra
[12:01] <SillyZ> Flannel how about write access ?
[12:01] <ubotu> Package gtkextra does not exist in dapper
[12:02] <hlabs> can one make ubuntu pc into a domain controller
[12:02] <Flannel> SillyZ: not stable
[12:02] <jackn> soundray, suggested su so that we know if expat has access to root status at all
[12:02] <mistraal> would anyone know why copying from a ubuntu desktop to a samba share would kill the network? I have to disable and reenable for it to work again.
[12:02] <bruenig> !info libgtkextra-dev
[12:02] <ubotu> libgtkextra-dev: A useful set of widgets for GTK+ (development files). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-1 (dapper), package size 427 kB, installed size 1668 kB
[12:02] <bruenig> tulio, universe
[12:02] <lamego_> hlabs, i believe so, using samba, at least for a nt4 domain :P
[12:02] <SillyZ> Flannel : thanks.... hmm means ill be converting some drives to fat32 then
[12:02] <jackn> soundray thanks
[12:02] <soundray> expatrick: it's certainly a strange situation.
[12:02] <verbose> hlabs: with samba you can
[12:02] <byen> pardon me..
[12:02] <expatrick> my password still works to log me in to the box
[12:02] <JDahl> I got a usb wlan dongle, that ubuntu doesnt recognize.  Is ndiswrapper my best bet for getting it working?
[12:02] <expatrick> but not for su
[12:02] <expatrick> thats strange
[12:02] <byen> @network-manager
[12:03] <byen> !network-manager
[12:03] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[12:03] <tulio> thanks
[12:03] <digital__> verbose: lsof doesn't show anything open for /var
[12:03] <Dev05> I wish the NetworkManager would make Wireless "just work"...
[12:04] <verbose> digital__: how about fuser -cuk /var ?
[12:04] <spetsnazgg_> hello, i'm having trouble getting sound to work on my friend's laptop
[12:04] <spetsnazgg_> i'm wondering if i can get some help here
[12:04] <Maje> Kay, still having problems with fglrx drivers, just tried a tip to blacklist certain agp modules...
[12:04] <Maje> spetsnazgg_: his sound drivers okay?
[12:04] <jackn> soundray, myself don't even use sudo, but su - -c <command>, which is basically sudo for just the length of the command.
[12:04] <verbose> Maje: are you running amd64?
[12:04] <JDahl> byen, was that for me?  my usb dongle doesnt even show up dmesg,  so I am afraid it's not that easy
[12:05] <Dev05> AnI, Try asking in #xubuntu.
[12:05] <Maje> verbose: No, i386
[12:05] <hlabs> is there any way that the admin can restrict the user from storing their files locally
[12:05] <tulio> anyone here ever used the gpsim??
[12:05] <digital__> verbose: nothing!
[12:05] <spetsnazgg_> Maje: *she, and lspci gives me an intel corporation ac'97 audio controller
[12:05] <AnI> ok
[12:05] <jackn> expatrcik you get the prompt again after sudo <command>?
[12:05] <AnI> ty
[12:05] <spetsnazgg_> Maje: So i believe it detects it correctly
[12:05] <spetsnazgg_> Maje: /dev/dsp has been chmod'd 666
[12:05] <soundray> jackn: you need to have a root password set, which leaves your box less secure than it could be.
[12:05] <verbose> digital__: cd / then try to umount it
[12:06] <jackn> soundray, OK, got it, thanks again. Right.
[12:06] <verbose> digital__: and make sure you are only logged in on one terminal
[12:06] <Maje> spetsnazgg_: That's what I have, and it works just fine out-of-the-box with Ubuntu
[12:06] <spetsnazgg_> Maje: she uses a BenQ joybook S72
[12:06] <spetsnazgg_> Maje: Yea, it works on my laptop too, but it seems to have trouble on hers
[12:06] <expatrick> jackn: yes
[12:06] <jackn> soundray, but then what about 'secure mode' does it take care of itself without a password?
[12:06] <Stirk> Hi, I'm having a problem installing Ubuntu on my desktop. It goes through the whole proccess, blah blah. Then it stops around 60% at one of those loading bars. Said something about
[12:07] <mistraal> would anyone know why copying from a ubuntu desktop to a samba share would kill the network? I have to disable and reenable for it to work again.
[12:07] <Stirk> Xserver - Xorg
[12:07] <Stirk> Then dropped me to a black screen
[12:07] <jackn> expatrick, am trying some googling, stand by please
[12:07] <digital__> verbose: "device is busy"
[12:07] <soundray> expatrick: what happened that made your System menu disappear?
[12:07] <expatrick> jackn - standing by :)
[12:07] <soundray> jackn: what's secure mode?
[12:07] <expatrick> soundray - don't know, it was gone when I logged in this morning
[12:07] <lamego_> mistraal, using a lan card ?
[12:07] <mistraal> yes
[12:08] <lamego_> thats odd
[12:08] <lamego_> kill like, you lose the connection ?
[12:08] <mistraal> I tried the acpi=off as it suggested in the forums but it still hangs
[12:08] <mistraal> the connection is lost
[12:08] <mistraal> no messages in /var/log/messages
[12:08] <lamego_> you are unable to reach any host ?
[12:08] <mistraal> none
[12:08] <soundray> expatrick: just to be on the safe side, I would treat this as a security incident until proven otherwise.
[12:08] <rummik> ah-ha!
[12:08] <lamego_> there must be some problem with your network driver :|
[12:09] <TabulaRasa> guten abend.
[12:09] <tulio> how do I install a .src.rpm file?
[12:09] <mistraal> yet copying FROM said samba share there is no problem
[12:09] <flubs> Anyone have any idea what it means when I try to share a folder with Samba and it says "Could not share folder! Fix broken packages first!"?
[12:09] <Maje> tulio: use alien to convert it to a .deb
[12:09] <soundray> TabulaRasa: falscher channel - #ubuntu-de
[12:09] <TabulaRasa> oh well, or good evening if the official language here is english
[12:09] <tulio> Maje: alien??
[12:09] <expatrick> soundray - if it was so, how can I give myself back admin privileges?
[12:09] <Stirk> Hi, I'm having a problem installing Ubuntu on my desktop. It goes through the whole proccess, blah blah. Then it stops around 60% at one of those loading bars. Said something about Xserver - Xorg, Then dropped me to a black screen. Any Ideas?
[12:09] <TabulaRasa> defintely not the wrong channel.
[12:10] <TabulaRasa> i am not too dumb to speak english.
[12:10] <nopcode> TabulaRasa: seriously, what did you expect the official language to be?
[12:10] <Maje> tulio: alien is a program that converts rpms to deb files, which is what Ubuntu uses
[12:10] <tulio> !alien
[12:10] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[12:10] <TabulaRasa> nopcode: , what do you expect if you join a channel for the first time? maybe nothing?
[12:10] <Dev05> Stirk, What did it actually say?
[12:10] <nopcode> TabulaRasa: english, of course.
[12:10] <soundray> expatrick: that's hard to say, if you don't know how and why you lost it in the first place.
[12:10] <lamego_> Stirk, you should try with the alternate cd, the live cd is unable to start the graphical interface on your system
[12:10] <devi1> are you able to see a harddrive in linux that has windows on it
[12:10] <Stirk> lamego_, I an using the alternative CD
[12:10] <TabulaRasa> you would sooo be wrong if you joined the channel german-elite on irc.gulli.com.
[12:10] <Stirk> Its during the install that it has a problem
[12:10] <lamego_> devi1, yes, but if its ntfs, you can only read from it
[12:11] <devi1> are you able to see a harddrive in linux that has windows on it?
[12:11] <tulio> !grub
[12:11] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:11] <devi1> ok
[12:11] <expatrick> is there a way to log in as root from the console or something?
[12:11] <soundray> expatrick: if it was my system, I would reinstall it.
[12:11] <devi1> where do you go to see them
[12:11] <nopcode> TabulaRasa: well its obvious that that channel probably is german.
[12:11] <devi1> the hardrives
[12:11] <lamego_> expatrick, if yuu enable the root account, yes
[12:11] <Stirk> Anyone?
[12:11] <nopcode> TabulaRasa: you would be wrong in 95% of all channels, tho
[12:11] <Jbirk> draper drake
[12:11] <digital__> Can you boot without /var?
[12:11] <Jbirk> right?
[12:11] <expatrick> soundray - i went through too much, ndiswrapper crap, etc
[12:11] <si9o> could anyone point me in the direction of some quake 3 assistance?
[12:11] <rummik> lamego_: looks like to mount this one it was /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00
[12:11] <devi1> where do you go to see the hardrives
[12:12] <expatrick> that's like putting me on a train to redmond :)
[12:12] <MKR> I installed dapper shortly after its release, and it appears there's a majorly updated version avaialable. Would doing a dist-upgrade by advisable?
[12:12] <verbose> digital__: yes
[12:12] <lamego_> rummik, ahh you are using LVM !!!
[12:12] <TabulaRasa> whatever. i am able to speak and understand english. excuse me if i greeted ou in my native language. will never happen again.
[12:12] <MKR> be advisable
[12:12] <flubs> What's the syntax to use with apt-get to tell it to get a package and all required dependancies?
[12:12] <lamego_> expatrick, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:12] <rummik> lamego_: i said i was
[12:12] <lamego_> rummik, sorry, didnt read that :P
[12:12] <digital__> verbose: OK, so if I comment out /var in fstab and boot single user I should have no /var?
[12:12] <soundray> expatrick: you can rescue your /etc/ndiswrapper/ (or indeed your entire /etc/)
[12:12] <devi1> how do you see other harddrives
[12:12] <lamego_> digital__, you should need to comment it
[12:12] <verbose> digital__: you will have a /var, it will just be on the same partition as /
[12:13] <lamego_> should not
[12:13] <verbose> instead of a separate one...it will also be empty
[12:13] <verbose> as everything that was in /var will be on the unmounted partition
[12:13] <expatrick> soundray - also took me forever to get my lamp setup
[12:13] <digital__> verbose: I'll try it out on my laptop
[12:13] <Stirk> I see I wont be getting any help from here today =-\ Unless someone has any ideas?
[12:13] <rummik> lamego_: lol, that's ok. is there any easy way to just remove the fedora files and install ubuntu on that partition, without redoing the fs?
[12:13] <kjm> trying to configure GDM : Get the following errror : kjmacken@Mordor:~$ gksu gdmsetup
[12:13] <kjm> Could not access GDM configuration file.
[12:13] <digital__> be back. well, if my laptop comes back to life
[12:13] <soundray> expatrick: is your machine behind a firewall?
[12:13] <digital__> exit
[12:13] <lamego_> Stirk, i already todl you, you will need to install using the alternate cd
[12:14] <Whitelighter> anyone here with experience with cryptsetup/luks?
[12:14] <expatrick> soundray - no, it's behind a nat though
[12:14] <soundray> devi1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions might help you
[12:14] <rummik> lamego_: cuz that would save me from needing to move 10GB+ of junk
[12:14] <Stirk> I am using the alternative CD...
[12:14] <pluma> Erm... I seem to have a problem
[12:14] <Stirk> I also already said that ^^ =-(
[12:14] <lamego_> rummik, I believe the ubuntu installer supports LVM, if yo have your /home on a differente dir it should be ok, you just need to wipe /
[12:14] <flubs> Stirk, i had a similar problem on install and there is a number you have to put at the end of the install command to that let me get past the xorg section of the install
[12:14] <lamego_> i mean, on a differente partition
[12:14] <pluma> How do I launch the application add/remove thing via command-line?
[12:15] <expatrick> i gotta run, wish me luck
[12:15] <kjm> pluma : $synaptic &
[12:15] <si9o> :pluma apt-get
[12:15] <soundray> expatrick: sure do, fingers crossed
[12:15] <JDahl> holy smoke!  An updated driver from zyxel's homepage, and ndiswrapper got my wlan up and running...
[12:15] <lamego_> pluma, gnome-app-install
[12:15] <Stirk> Thanks flubs, I'll look into it I suppose -.-
[12:15] <nopcode> zyxel? on the internet? omg
[12:15] <rummik> lamego_: my /home is where it normally is in /home
[12:15] <pluma> lamego_: ta
[12:15] <lamego_> rummik, but, is it a dedicated partition ?
[12:16] <Maje> Still looking for someone who might be able to help me figure out what's wrong with my 3D acceleration in fglrx :)
[12:16] <kjm> Getting this error trying to config gdm....
[12:16] <kjm> kjmacken@Mordor:~$ gksu gdmsetup
[12:16] <kjm> Could not access GDM configuration file.
[12:16] <kjm> config file is @ /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[12:16] <rummik> lamego_: nope, i cd into the directory and my home folder is there
[12:16] <JDahl> nopcode: that was also my immediate reaction
[12:16] <lamego_> Maje, once again, did you install the drivers from apt ?
[12:16] <nopcode> JDahl: you shouldnt be using ndiswrapper tho
[12:16] <Maje> lamego_: sorry if you didn't see earlier, yes, I did
[12:16] <flubs> stirk, sorry I can't be more specific.  It was a while ago, but I do remember I was able to find it using the features of the alternate cd...
[12:17] <lamego_> Maje, have you edited your xorg.conf to use fglrx  ?
[12:17] <devi1> the drive is mounted in linux but it says i dont have permission to access
[12:17] <Stirk> Hmm.. I'll go take a look right now ;) Thanks again
[12:17] <lamego_> rummik, ok, you have no idea what i am talking about, probably you have it all on the same logical volume
[12:17] <Maje> lamego_: yep
[12:17] <JDahl> nopcode: I also heard nothing but bad things about ndiswrapper, but is there another way for hardware that's not supported by the default kernel?
[12:17] <soundray> kjm: try gksudo gdmsetup (works here)
[12:17] <Maje> lamego_: also used module-assistant and dpkg -reconfigure and all
[12:17] <nopcode> JDahl: dont buy that hardware is the recommended solution
[12:17] <lamego_> rummik, meaning you should backup your /home to an external media, reinstall the entire system, and restore from the backup
[12:18] <Chrono86> hey everybody I have a question about installing nvidia drivers on an AMD64 system
[12:18] <rummik> lamego_: looks like i'll have to do that then
[12:18] <pluma> I also seem to have killed my GNOME panels.
[12:18] <soundray> devi1: read the page I pointed you to.
[12:18] <lamego_> Maje, and you restarted the X server, but still no 3d support ?
[12:18] <kjm> soundray : It should work I know...but I'm getting an error that gdmsetup cannot access configuration file.
[12:18] <devi1> i have just mounted a windows harddrive into linux but it says i do not have permission to access
[12:18] <pluma> They're blank except for the garbage bin and the recycle bin doesn't work. How can I create a new one?
[12:18] <soundray> kjm: have you tried gksudo instead of gksu, like I suggested?
[12:18] <Maje> lamego_: Yep. I looked at the logs, and it says DRI initialization failed, so I don't know if it's even using fglrx for acceleration, despite everything pointing to it
[12:18] <ReloadeD> Hi there
[12:19] <rummik> lamego_: there isn't a way to just overwrite everything accept /home, is there?
[12:19] <Chrono86> is this a good guide to follow? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133427
[12:19] <kjm> soundray - yes, same error....
[12:19] <lamego_> Maje, have you looked at the X error log ? for a more detailed description ?
[12:19] <lamego_> btw, what is your card model ?
[12:20] <soundray> kjm: what are the permissions? (ls -l /etc/gdm/gdm.conf)
[12:20] <jackn> expatrcik, r u gone?
[12:20] <pluma> Is there a way to launch the task manager via a keyboard shortcut or terminal command?
[12:20] <AirPlus> Hi there
[12:20] <lamego_> Maje, you did the standard steps to install the driver... so you must have some unusual hw config :P
[12:20] <Maje> lamego_: Radeon 9800 Pro. That's why when it says DRI initialization failed, I think it's still trying to use DRI/Mesa instead of fglrx
[12:20] <soundray> jackn: yes, he is
[12:20] <lamego_> Maje, ok, it is not so unusual, i am using  a Radeon 9600s, working fine
[12:20] <lamego_> :P
[12:20] <Maje> lamego_: I guess what I'm looking for is a way to further pinpoint where exactly the problem is...a specific file or something I need to change, but I can't find it
[12:20] <kjm> soundray : -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 27912 2006-05-23 20:08 /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[12:21] <lamego_> Maje, i will post my xorg.conf, we do have a very close model
[12:21] <AirPlus> I have burnt two CDs to install 6.06, and it's the right version I need (i386 desktop) and I have burnt one at 52x and one at 8x. I start them up and press "Start or install Ubuntu" it says one thing, then OK then it says "Loading real file system" and freezes. I hear the CD drive spin down and then it just freezes my laptop.
[12:21] <lamego_> !! pastebbin
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <FourPointNine> Can someone guide me through uninstalling ubuntu?
[12:21] <lamego_> !! pastebin
[12:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:22] <devi1> i have two harddrives, one windows, one linux. i have just mounted the windows one and it says i cant access it because i dont have the permissions. what do i do?
[12:22] <AirPlus> Is that to me lamego?
[12:22] <flubs> i think my repository list may be borked, where can i get a new one?
[12:22] <lamego_> Maje, btw, you are not expected to use the DRI module with the fglrx driver
[12:22] <Chrono86> how come this command doesn't work for me? "/etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[12:22] <AirPlus> So what is wrong with what I'm doing? I have checked the ISO MD5 sums and burnt at a slow speed. Any ideas? Please.
[12:23] <flubs> FourPointNine: Do you just want to remove Ubuntu or replace it with something else?
[12:23] <FourPointNine> I want to remove it, then replace it with something else later.
[12:23] <Maje> lamego_: I know, that's why I think it's so odd that it's saying that, like fglrx isn't even loaded, after i installed it and all
[12:23] <Chrono86> /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[12:23] <Chrono86> oops
[12:23] <lamego_> Maje, my xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21140
[12:23] <Maje> xorg.confs are the same where it counts...hm
[12:23] <lamego_> i mean, the driver section :P
[12:24] <Maje> except my PCI is 1:0:0
[12:24] <Maje> shouldn't matter though
[12:24] <lamego_> FourPointNine, whatever is the system you will be using will allow you to remove ubuntu
[12:24] <flubs> FourPointNine: I can't speak for any other linux distros, but if you were thinking about windows xp it would go through the process of formatting the drive for you when you install it
[12:24] <lamego_> Maje, do you have a clean config like mine ?
[12:24] <FourPointNine> I was wanting to install FreeBSD.
[12:24] <Maje> yeah
[12:25] <ossie> thanks or everyones help :) , bye whiter
[12:25] <soundray> kjm: do you have a /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf ?
[12:25] <lamego_> hum, ere does the DRI error come from ?
[12:25] <lamego_> xorg log ?
[12:25] <AirPlus> Well? Can anyone help with my problem/
[12:25] <Maje> yes
[12:25] <Maje> xorg.0.log
[12:25] <lamego_> FourPointNine, FreeBSD allows you to delete ubuntu
[12:25] <Maje> oh...
[12:26] <kjm> yup:  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 27912 2006-05-23 20:08 gdm.conf
[12:26] <FourPointNine> Alright. So I just put it in the drive and "Poof" Ubuntu is gone?
[12:26] <hlabs> guys is there any way that i can stop my users from storing information on their local work stations and force them to store every download file to a network folder
[12:26] <soundray> AirPlus: you may have to try boot options like 'noapic' and
[12:26] <soundray> 'nolapic'
[12:26] <AirPlus> What do those do?
[12:26] <Maje> lamego_: Is there a way I can remove fglrx from my kernel modules, and just try a completely clean reinstall?
[12:27] <my_key> flubs: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:27] <lamego_> Maje, have you installed it using apt ?
[12:27] <Maje> yes
[12:27] <flubs> FourPointNine: Not quite a poof, but it will give you the option to overwrite it
[12:27] <Maje> and many other ways
[12:27] <lamego_> Maje, yes, remove both the fglrx modules and the kernel restricted modules
[12:27] <flubs> my_key: Thanks!
[12:27] <soundray> AirPlus: deal with strange hardware (black magic to me)
[12:28] <lamego_> Maje, and firsst install the restricted modules, only fglrx after
[12:28] <FourPointNine> Alright. Will it only affect the Ubuntu Partition and will it keep GRUB?
[12:28] <AirPlus> Thanks
[12:28] <Maje> woooah
[12:28] <lamego_> Maje, many otherways ? you did a manual install of the ati drivers ?
[12:28] <AirPlus> I will be back!
[12:28] <rdemanow> Rhythmbox won't play any of the songs on my iPod
[12:28] <Maje> lamego_: it's giving me unmet dependancy errors
[12:28] <Maje> lamego_: Yes, I restored my xorg before each install, just to keep it clean
[12:28] <lamego_> unmet dependencies removing ?
[12:28] <Maje> nod
[12:28] <Maje> this is...goofy
[12:29] <lamego_> Maje, is your sources.list ok :) ?
[12:29] <soundray> kjm: will the file open when you do a gksudo gedit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[12:29] <lamego_> btw, you should remove it with Xserver down :P
[12:29] <Maje> lamego_, should be, have all the repos enabled and haven't removed anything
[12:29] <AnI> help
[12:29] <AnI> how do i resume the initial installation
[12:29] <AnI> im at consol $
[12:29] <lamego_> Maje, that is very odd, i have already removed/install the ati drivers without any problem
[12:30] <AnI> and would like to resume the graphical installation
[12:30] <kjm> soundray : yup.  Opens with write privvies
[12:30] <kjm> as root
[12:30] <Maje> lamego_: it's okay, I removed the fglrx kernel modules and restricted modules
[12:30] <Jbirk> How do I stop x
[12:30] <Maje> lamego_: should I give it a reboot first before i reinstall?
[12:31] <Jbirk> on tty 7
[12:31] <Jbirk> I tried ctrl alt backspace and it just restarted x
[12:31] <FourPointNine> Will letting FreeBSD only affect the Ubuntu Partition? And will it keep GRUB?
[12:31] <lamego_> Maje, well, fglrx is in memory, because you are using X, you should have removed it with X closed
[12:31] <soundray> Jbirk: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:31] <ese5> how do you build a new kernel with smp support in ubuntu?
[12:31] <snoops> is there some global repository of lug's around the world? I'm looking to do a monthly meet and drink with a group of users around my town.. google isn't giving me much in the way of results and such..
[12:31] <flubs> my_key: Where is my source.list file located?
[12:31] <lamego_> so now it is better to just reboot, but first, change xorg.conf to use the radeon driver :P
[12:31] <soundray> ese5: if you're on dapper, you already have SMP support.
[12:31] <Jbirk> ese5
[12:31] <rdemanow> You can instruct FreeBSD to leave the boot sector alone when you install it, so you won't lose your GRUB
[12:32] <Jbirk> ese5, go to /usr/sources
[12:32] <Maje> lamego_ Good point. I'll see how this works
[12:32] <ese5> soundray:  i installed from the latest ISO,  but /etc/cpuinfo shows only one processor
[12:32] <Ych> !xgl
[12:32] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:32] <FourPointNine> Alright. Sounds good to me. Thanks all.
[12:32] <Jbirk> download a kernel from kernel.org
[12:32] <Jbirk> then extract it
[12:32] <soundray> kjm: I don't know what's wrong with your gdmsetup, sry
[12:32] <FourPointNine>  Will letting FreeBSD only affect the Ubuntu Partition? And will it keep GRUB?
[12:32] <Jbirk> then go into its folder and
[12:32] <my_key> flubs: type 'man sources.list' and the man page will give you the answer ;)
[12:32] <Jbirk> make menuconfig
[12:32] <ese5> jbirk: no,  i've already tried a stock kernel
[12:32] <lamego_> ese5, you can install an SMP enabled kernel from the repositories
[12:32] <Jbirk> You can configure the kernel
[12:32] <Jbirk> How can he do that?
[12:32] <ese5> jbirk: i can't get it to work with my intel 3945
[12:32] <rdemanow> FourPointNine:  what are you doing with FreeBSD?  Letting it do what?
[12:32] <lamego_> ese5, sudo apt-cache search kernel smp
[12:33] <soundray> ese5: is your BIOS setup configured for SMP?
[12:33] <Jbirk> Just make sure to edit menu.lst in /boot/grub
[12:33] <snoops> soundray hmm? you do if you're using 64bit.. I found when I installed 32bit dapper I had to grab the smp kernel, because it didn't detect it, with the 64bit one, yeah it installed the smp one by default
[12:33] <Jbirk> and add it as a second kernel
[12:33] <ese5> soundray: yes smp works in the stock 2.6.17.8 kernel i built
[12:33] <Jbirk> that way, you can get back to your working kernel if all goes bad
[12:33] <flubs> my_key: Thanks again!
[12:33] <AnI> hi can someone help me?
[12:33] <SpComb> hello. I'm trialing out ubuntu on my laptop, and I'm currently trying to get the wlan to work. I have a Prism  Javelin/Xbow ISL3886. From what I understand, prism54 may support it, linux-wlan-ng apparently supports it, and ndiswrapper should support it. I'm a bit unsure now as to what I could try, I have the laptop here in my lap booted into the ubuntu desktop cd.
[12:33] <ese5> soundray: i see both my processors...  but the drivers for my wifi card just refuse to work
[12:34] <soundray> snoops: oh, that's an important hint... thanks
[12:34] <Jbirk> How did you build your kernel??
[12:34] <ese5> jbirk: what do you mean how
[12:34] <ese5> jbirk: with make
[12:34] <Jbirk> I mean what specifically did you do to compile 2.6.17?
[12:34] <Jbirk> with SMP
[12:34] <Jbirk> ?
[12:34] <ese5> jbirk: i downloaded the source, configured it, and built it
[12:35] <Jbirk> right so you downloaded from kernel.org
[12:35] <ese5> jbirk: yes
[12:35] <rdemanow> FourPointNine: the FreeBSD install can be instructed to leave your boot sector alone.  Then you need to boot back into linux, edit your menu.lst, and make sure you set  your kernel to /boot/loader for the FreeBSD partition
[12:35] <Jbirk> Then you configured with make menuconfig right?
[12:35] <ese5> jbirk: yes
[12:35] <SillyZ> any particular reason reiserFS was left out of the Kubuntu installation ???
[12:35] <Jbirk> Then you compiled with make?
[12:35] <soundray> ese5: I concur with lamego_ -- try sudo apt-cache search linux-image smp
[12:35] <ese5> jbirk: yes,  and it works fine
[12:35] <ese5> jbirk: but the drivers for my wifi card crap out when I try to do wep
[12:35] <flubs> ahh! My box doesn't know what gedit is!
[12:36] <SillyZ> has everything else cept for reiserfs
[12:36] <rdemanow> Rhythmbox claims to be able to play songs off my iPod, but all it does is put a little red circle with a white dash in it next to any song I try to play.
[12:36] <soundray> SillyZ: reiserfs is in dapper
[12:36] <Jbirk> ese5, how did you compile modules?
[12:36] <SillyZ> Not in kubuntu - dapper
[12:36] <Jbirk> and libraries?
[12:36] <ese5> jbirk: and i'm 100% sure all the support i need for the card/wep/etc is enabled in the kernel config
[12:36] <lamego_> rdemanow, have you installed the codecs required for your file types ?
[12:36] <Jbirk> Did you have to do make install_modules?
[12:37] <SillyZ> Im installing it right now, and theres no reiserfs option during the partitioning process
[12:37] <Jbirk> or anything?
[12:37] <DShepherd> SillyZ: it should be there too..kubuntu that is
[12:37] <rdemanow> reply what codecs are there, and how do I install them?
[12:37] <Jbirk> or was it just make menuconfig, make, make install?
[12:37] <SillyZ> nope its not
[12:37] <soundray> SillyZ: what do you get when you enter 'locate reiserfs.ko'?
[12:37] <ese5> jbirk: i did make modules / make modules_install
[12:37] <kjm> soundray : that is cool, thanks for trying.
[12:37] <lamego_> !! restrictedformats > rdemanow
[12:37] <DShepherd> SillyZ: interesting..
[12:37] <ese5> jbirk: anyways i know you can build a ubuntu kernel but i'm not sure how to do it
[12:37] <ese5> jbirk: and i can't find the howto
[12:37] <Jbirk> ese5, so the order was make menuconfig, make, make modules_install, make install
[12:37] <Jbirk> right?
[12:38] <ese5> jbirk: yes.. guy the kernel works ok
[12:38] <soundray> SillyZ: oh, you're still installing
[12:38] <Jbirk> Then, how did you upgrade Grub?
[12:38] <Hadrion> how can I get multiple monitors and XviD videos to work in ubuntu? :)
[12:38] <Jbirk> you updated menu.lst right?
[12:38] <SillyZ> its there i modprobe'd it, but still does not appear in the available partition filesystem types
[12:38] <ese5> jbirk: guy
[12:38] <ese5> jbirk: you aren't listening to me
[12:38] <Jbirk> What do you mean guy?
[12:39] <Jbirk> I am a little bit confused, ese5.
[12:39] <Jbirk> What packages did you install to compile the kernel?
[12:39] <Jbirk> apt-get install development or something?
[12:39] <tnzr> anyone know why the "shutdown/restart" options are gone from my "Quit" button in the upper right hand corner?
[12:39] <lamego_> SillyZ, thats because the partitioner doesn't support it (I Guess)
[12:39] <ese5> jbirk: i don't think you understand my question
[12:40] <soundray> SillyZ: have you got reiserfsprogs installed?
[12:40] <ese5> jbirk:  i'd like to build a *ubuntu* kernel
[12:40] <Herbal> when i try to load tor i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d21142   how can i fix it?
[12:40] <ese5> jbirk:  they're different than the stock ones from kernel.org
[12:41] <soundray> tnzr: that can happen if someone else is logged in
[12:41] <SillyZ> lamego_ ya id guess ill try and make the partition manually
[12:41] <tnzr> soundray: what if nobody else is logged in? :)
[12:41] <tnzr> soundray: it seemed to happen around the time that I got my wireless card working
[12:41] <lamego_> Herbal, sudo chown 1000 /var/lib/tor
[12:41] <Jbirk> you can download a ubuntu kernel?
[12:42] <Ych> is there anything i should do differently when installing xgl if i have 2 monitors?
[12:42] <soundray> Sorry tnzr
[12:42] <lamego_> ese5: please be advised that the kernel how to on the wiki for the ubuntu kernel is not very helpfull for Dapper :P
[12:43] <tnzr> soundray: no prob
[12:43] <soundray> tnzr: you can force a reboot with sudo reboot and see if that recovers your reboot options
[12:43] <Herbal> lamego_: k now it just says its experimental etc....how do i know its running?
[12:43] <lamego_> Herbal, ps -ef | grep -i tor
[12:43] <lamego_> I gues...
[12:43] <Johnny> whats a good n64 emulator?
[12:43] <AnI> hello can someone help me?
[12:43] <Herbal> hmm i think there is some kde gui frontend for it, imma check that out
[12:44] <kjm> AnI - there are probably a few people here who could.
[12:44] <lamego_> !! anyone > ani
[12:44] <AnI> yeah
[12:44] <kjm> ! ! anyone > kjm
[12:44] <AnI> i have a probably istalling
[12:44] <AnI> im a total noob
[12:44] <rdemanow> OK, I installed the gstreamer codecs listed on that multimedia page, it's still doing the same thing in Rhythmbox
[12:44] <AnI> but my installtation
[12:45] <AnI> hang at a blank screen
[12:45] <AnI> even before any add user
[12:45] <AnI> format disk
[12:45] <AnI> and stuff like that
[12:45] <kjm> AnI - did you boot from the live cd?
[12:45] <AnI> yeah
[12:45] <AnI> im trying to install onto hdd
[12:45] <Johnny> n64 emulator?
[12:45] <kjm> AnI - and X was running ok?
[12:45] <AnI> but it gives me blank
[12:45] <AnI> no
[12:45] <AnI> blank screen
[12:45] <Johnny> i have mupen64 but it doesnt load any roms
[12:45] <AnI> then i use conosl
[12:45] <AnI> i get $
[12:45] <simplydazed> What is the average CPU temp. of a laptop? Laptop idles at 57 Degrees, is this normal?
[12:46] <AnI> so i type startx
[12:46] <AnI> fatal server error
[12:46] <Johnny> mine gets pretty hot too simplydazed
[12:46] <soundray> simplydazed: it's on the high side, but I wouldn't worry as long as it doesn't get hotter than that
[12:46] <Johnny> sometimes it burns my lap
[12:46] <tnzr> yeah
[12:46] <tnzr> Johnny: its lowering our sperm counts as we speak
[12:46] <Dunkelschub> Could someone give me a hand? I'm having a problem mounting a external usb drive.
[12:46] <Johnny> meh
[12:47] <Johnny> i didnt want children anyway
[12:47] <AnI> kjm this is before any installtion options
[12:47] <simplydazed> Uhm, thats the problem. It has not dropped below 55. The fan does not spin aswell. In windows i remember it comming on every few hours. Hmm
[12:47] <Herbal> !torK
[12:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about torK - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:47] <AnI> i can't even get anything
[12:47] <AnI> but i could run bunch of sudo
[12:47] <hlabs> hey guys i want to duplicate a home video vcd i made a few months ago. Can some tell me what software to use
[12:47] <my_key> simplydazed: yeah, it's quite normal. Tip:don't close you're laptop when it's on. Many laptops ventilate via the keyboard and you'll block that closing it.
[12:48] <GStubbs43> Hey, anyone know if the gaim-xmms-remote package will work with audacious instead of xmms?
[12:48] <tnzr> AnI: did you check the Xorg logs in /var/log?
[12:48] <simplydazed> my_key: thanks, i just got this laptop. I'm used to 45 and less with a desktop heh
[12:48] <AnI> nope
[12:48] <AnI> @tnzr
[12:48] <simplydazed> just got a bit worried
[12:48] <AnI> i don't no how to do taht
[12:48] <tnzr> ani: i bet if you check those, you might find an error message that could lead to move info on solving your problem
[12:49] <AnI> do i do nano?
[12:49] <AirPlus> Hello again
[12:49] <Stirk> Hi, I'm having a problem installing Ubuntu on my desktop. It goes through the whole proccess, blah blah. Then it stops around 60% at one of those loading bars. Said something about Xserver - Xorg, Then dropped me to a black screen. Any Ideas?
[12:49] <tnzr> Ani: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log |less
[12:49] <Flannel> Stirk: is this a shipit CD or one you burned?
[12:50] <Stirk> I burned it myself
[12:50] <simplydazed> Is there any specific way i can turn on the fan?
[12:50] <Stirk> At a nice slow speed
[12:50] <hlabs> hey is there any way i can duplicate a vcd
[12:50] <AnI> tnzr thx
[12:50] <my_key> simplydazed: temperatures will most likely be higher on laptops since the small environment and they have less ventilation.
[12:50] <rodeoqueen> hello
[12:50] <Dunkelschub> Could someone please help me? I'm having a problem mounting an external usb drive.
[12:50] <Stirk> I am using the alternative CD, as the Live CD didnt work either
[12:50] <rodeoqueen> who are u guys?
[12:51] <rodeoqueen> who ru
[12:51] <AirPlus> I burnt an Ubuntu CD at 8x from a verified ISO but when I boot off the CD and press install/ start Ubuntu, it says "Loading Essential Drivers... OK" Then it says "Mounting root filesystem..." and hangs there. I have tried using noapic and nolapic so any ideas. PLEASE.
[12:51] <simplydazed> Thanks for the information guys
[12:53] <AnI> tnzr i did that and it froze my comp
[12:53] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here good with ndiswrapper? My wifi didn't work in a kernel that I compiled so I tried building the newest ndiswrapper, upon doing so, I got the error: *** WARNING: This kernel seems to use 4K stack size option (CONFIG_4KSTACKS); many Windows drivers will not work with this option enabled. Disable CONFIG_4KSTACKS option, recompile and install kernel, so can someone tell me how to disable that option?
[12:53] <flubs> Stirk: The boot parameter I was talking about earlier is 'vga=771'
[12:54] <Stirk> :O I'm going to go try right now
[12:54] <lamego_> that options if for the text vide mode, not for the graphical installer
[12:54] <lamego_> that
[12:54] <tabman> can I reduce the font size of my desktop icons ?
[12:54] <flubs> He is using the alternate disk, doesn't it default to text?
[12:55] <hlabs> guys is there any way to duplicate a video cd
[12:55] <lamego_> flubs, yes it does :P
[12:55] <Stirk> Hm
[12:55] <Stirk> I'll let you know if it works ;)
[12:56] <snoops> hlabs you could make an iso of it, then burn the iso to a disc
[12:56] <engla> I'm sorry for my background, but is it possible to have many smtp servers per account in evolution? In apple mail you have many as fallbacks, useful as smtp servers often depend on where you are, not your email account..
[12:56] <Flannel> Dimitrije: turn that off
[12:56] <bruenig> Dimitrije, stop that
[12:56] <GTX> How can I add a sentance called test on the last line of a file? I thought it was something like cat file > test
[12:56] <Dimitrije> Ups!
[12:57] <hlabs> sorry i meant something else. I am trying to get the .dat video file out of the cd
[12:57] <Dimitrije> Sorry, sorry.
[12:57] <engla> GTX: >> for append
[12:57] <smo> GTX: >> to append.  > will just replace
[12:57] <lamego_> GTX, echo "test" >> file
[12:57] <Flannel> GTX: and, other way around.  text >> file
[12:57] <AirPlus> hlabs, the .dat is a file which can be played in most media players.
[12:57] <AirPlus> And PLEASE can someone help me!
[12:57] <hlabs> i know but i want to store it on my usb disk
[12:57] <tabman> (03:54:34) tabman: can I reduce the font size of my desktop icons ?
[12:57] <hlabs> much easier to handle
[12:57] <tam> is thunderbird the only mail client that will forward from a certain template depending on contect of an email?
[12:57] <bruenig> AirPlus, get the alternate cd
[12:58] <engla> tabman: System > Settings > Fonts?
[12:58] <bruenig> preferences not settings
[12:58] <AirPlus> What do you mean the "alternate CD" bruenig
[12:58] <Flannel> AirPlus: Alternate ISO instead of the Desktop ISO
[12:59] <AirPlus> The server iso?
[12:59] <SpComb> hmm, playing around with prism54, it appears to work fine, I have a eth1 that has my wlan's mac address and everything. in iwconfig Access Point is "Invalid" and all the counters are at 0
[12:59] <SpComb> and iwlist scan just says "No scan results"
[12:59] <SpComb> so it's not erroring out, it's not working...
[12:59] <tnzr> spcomb: what kind of card?
[12:59] <AirPlus> Why would that make a difference?
[12:59] <tabman> engla: sorry icon size
[12:59] <Jbirk> I can burn an ISO right and it will boot?
[12:59] <Jbirk> I am burnign one for a friend
[12:59] <SpComb> tnzr: isl3886, prism
[12:59] <Ych> !ntfs
[01:00] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:00] <SpComb> I said something a couple pages up...
[01:00] <tnzr> SpComb: using wpa?
[01:00] <tnzr> sorry missed it
[01:00] <javiolo> Im running tcpdump in the terminal, how do I exit it ?
[01:00] <void^> SpComb: usb device?
[01:00] <SpComb> "I have a Prism  Javelin/Xbow ISL3886"
[01:00] <engla> tabman: I'm pretty sure it's the same as the icon view size settings (set in nautilus). To go around that you have to scale them one by one
[01:00] <SpComb> no, pci
[01:00] <SpComb> integrated into the laptop
[01:00] <void^> hm, no experience with those :] 
[01:00] <SpComb> wpa? Encryption?
[01:01] <flubs> How can I change my sources.list file if it's read only?  Added difficulty: I can't use gedit
[01:01] <tnzr> yeah
[01:01] <SpComb> dunno, not gotten to that stage yet, I'd like to be able to list visible access points firstt
[01:01] <engla> javiolo: control-c generally sends "interrupt" to shell processes. Should word
[01:01] <engla> *work
[01:01] <Dunkelschub> Could someone please help me mount a usb hard drive?
[01:01] <SpComb> let me pastebin some stuff that might help
[01:01] <tnzr> ok
[01:02] <javiolo> engla ok thanks
[01:02] <geser> SpComb: have you had a look at http://www.prism54.org/ ? I don't know how the state of the prism54 driver is regarding new prism54 cards
[01:03] <jomagoco> hhh
[01:03] <SpComb> geser: I have, seems like a very confusing site, not found any docs yet
[01:03] <SpComb> oh, and the fact that their wiki is broken doesn't help
[01:04] <tnzr> SpComb: have you tried setting it up with iwconfig?
[01:05] <geser> the prism54 is the full mac driver and their site mentions it doesn't support the isl3886
[01:05] <geser> you need the new driver which is still in development
[01:05] <ScheissNUssen> I downloaded the java plugin for my firefox browser, but I cannot install it for some reason the name is "jre-1_5_0_08-linux-i586-rpm" can someone please give me the command to install it so that I can figure it out please?
[01:06] <bruenig> ScheissNUssen, why not use the plugin from the repo
[01:06] <ScheissNUssen> how do i do that?
[01:06] <bruenig> !info j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[01:06] <ubotu> j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin: Java plugin for mozilla/firefox. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 2 kB, installed size 36 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[01:07] <bruenig> that is one of them, I think sun-java5-bin is another
[01:07] <bruenig> !info sun-java5-bin
[01:07] <ubotu> sun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 21625 kB, installed size 65608 kB
[01:07] <ScheissNUssen> yeah
[01:07] <bruenig> ScheissNUssen, do sudo apt-get install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[01:07] <ScheissNUssen> but how do i install them?
[01:07] <Jbirk> !lamp > ubotu
[01:07] <ScheissNUssen> idk what you are talking about
[01:07] <AirPlus> I burnt an Ubuntu CD at 8x from a verified ISO but when I boot off the CD and press install/ start Ubuntu, it says "Loading Essential Drivers... OK" Then it says "Mounting root filesystem..." and hangs there. I have tried using noapic and nolapic so any ideas. PLEASE.
[01:08] <bruenig> ScheissNussen, if you do that command in the terminal it will install it all for you
[01:08] <ScheissNUssen> you are just listning things, that means nothing to me
[01:08] <ScheissNUssen> ok
[01:08] <bruenig> just do sudo apt-get install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin from the terminal
[01:09] <SpComb> geser: the site is outdated or something in some places... dates from 2002 - 2004 all over the place
[01:09] <SpComb> http://pastebin.zapotek.paivola.fi/5
[01:09] <ScheissNUssen> couldnt find package
[01:09] <bruenig> ScheissNUssen, you need to enable the multiverse repository first and then do that command https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-a86dddc6826cec4a3847d8441b24051d07b8dc64
[01:10] <Dunkelschub> Could anyone tell me why Disk Manager is taking an extremely long time to load?
[01:10] <rockoutamerica> Can someone help me install my onboard audio drivers for my nvidia board. Everytime I try it says it cant compile source tree
[01:10] <rockoutamerica> or something
[01:12] <SpComb> tnzr: what do you mean with setting it up?
[01:12] <geser> SpComb: yes, it seems there are seldom updates
[01:13] <tnzr> spcomb: iwconfig <interface> essid <your essid> mode Managed channel <your channel>
[01:13] <rockoutamerica> How do I instal nvidia audio drivers?
[01:13] <geser> SpComb: but accord to your paste you are using the new driver not the old one
[01:13] <Ych> !xgl
[01:13] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:13] <hlabs> hey can i remote desktop into windows xp from my ubuntu machine
[01:14] <hlabs> if so what protocol do i need to connect on
[01:14] <Harmsy> u could use VNC
[01:14] <hlabs> ok
[01:14] <|thunder-afk> !hfs+
[01:14] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:14] <Harmsy> im struggling with that myself
[01:14] <remu> hey guys, remu here, i was on here last night as well...i went and installed ubuntu on my laptop, but my wireless card wont show up in networking....so i tried using ndiswrapper to get it to work, and it SHOULD display my wireless card in networking but it wont. im using the broadcom 4311 wireless card
[01:14] <remu> anyhelp would be much appreciated
[01:14] <SpComb> tnzr: ooh... I did that, and now iwlist scan finds stuff
[01:15] <tnzr> spcomb: cool
[01:15] <lmosher> Can anyone suggest a really good DVD authoring program? I've been using tovidgui, but I'm not a fan of the menu-making sytem. I'd like to do something a little bit better than just putting the text from the filename on the screen..
[01:15] <SpComb> looks like it works
[01:15] <SpComb> now I just need to know how it works
[01:15] <tnzr> hehe
[01:15] <tnzr> SpComb: you running wpa_supplicant?
[01:15] <m0> hi, is it possible to make different desktops for every workspace?
[01:15] <FurryNemesis> remu, have you seen the forums? There are several walkthroughs for broadcom cards
[01:15] <remu> the problem is with the "several"
[01:15] <ScheissNUssen> thanks a lot for the help, greatly appreciated
[01:16] <remu> i dunno which one to use, which one works, and so on
[01:16] <ScheissNUssen> how do I find a list of the programs in the repository
[01:16] <remu> like....why so many, yano
[01:16] <SpComb> tnzr: dunno what that is
[01:16] <SpComb> the wlan here in not encrypted, I know that
[01:16] <bruenig> ScheissNUssen, there are 18,000+ packages
[01:16] <tnzr> spcomb: ahh
[01:16] <ScheissNUssen> ok
[01:17] <ScheissNUssen> so if I want to install "mame"
[01:17] <bruenig> ScheissNUssen, for graphical search and stuff of the packages in the repositories, go to System>Administration>Synaptic package manager
[01:17] <SpComb> okay, but I seem to be connected up to a access point now, got it's mac here
[01:17] <ScheissNUssen> which is a game emulator
[01:17] <ScheissNUssen> how would I do that?
[01:17] <itsmegb> http://packages.ubuntu.com/  has a list i think
[01:17] <|thunder-afk> or sudo aynaptic
[01:17] <Harmsy> i need to install and configure openVPN, but when i follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNServer   i get a problem with the "cd /etc/openvpn/ && /usr/sbin/openvpn --genkey --secret static.key" part
[01:17] <FurryNemesis> synaptic, you mean |thunder-afk ?
[01:17] <tnzr> spcomb: now run ifconfig.. does your wireless interface have an ip?  if not, try running dhclient
[01:17] <bruenig> I prefer the command line, for package mame, you would do sudo apt-get install xmame-common
[01:18] <|thunder-afk> yep, im tired
[01:18] <AirPlus> I burnt an Ubuntu CD at 8x from a verified ISO but when I boot off the CD and press install/ start Ubuntu, it says "Loading Essential Drivers... OK" Then it says "Mounting root filesystem..." and hangs there. I have tried using noapic and nolapic so any ideas. PLEASE.
[01:18] <bruenig> as I believe that is what it is called
[01:18] <Harmsy> i suppose i need to use sudo, but sudo tells me cd isnt a command
[01:18] <SpComb> trying dhclient now, it's sending but not getting a response
[01:18] <bruenig> AirPlus, get the alternate cd
[01:18] <bruenig> !alternate
[01:18] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.
[01:18] <SpComb> I know the wlan works here though, ap is just around the corner
[01:18] <tnzr> spcomb: what do you get when you type route
[01:19] <tnzr> im not sure if that would matter at this stage actually
[01:19] <AirPlus> bruenig: is the alternate the server CD?
[01:19] <SpComb> hmm, I set the ip manually, but I can't ping my server..
[01:19] <bruenig> AirPlus, no but that is another option, install the server cd then do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:19] <lmosher> What's a good DVD authoring program with a DVD menu creator?
[01:19] <tnzr> spcomb: try ifdown <interface>, followed by ifup <interface>
[01:19] <Harmsy> any1?
[01:19] <AirPlus> bruenig: Can you give me a link to a torrent for the alternate please
[01:19] <AirPlus> bruenig: for i386
[01:20] <bruenig> AirPlus, it is in the download section of ubuntu.com
[01:20] <poningru> err
[01:20] <|thunder-afk> how do I disable things I dont want. Like the bit-torrent tracker, i looked in services and there was only a few things that all seemed important
[01:20] <m0> hi, is it possible to make different desktops for every workspace?
[01:20] <SpComb> tnzr: woot.. I got an ip
[01:20] <m0> different as in different backgrounds
[01:20] <tnzr> SpComb: ping google :D
[01:20] <SpComb> I can't ping though
[01:20] <bruenig> AirPlus, http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[01:20] <tnzr> might need to set gateway with route
[01:21] <SpComb> oh wait, that ip is one that I set statically
[01:21] <SpComb> no, my server on the local subnet
[01:21] <AirPlus> thanks
[01:21] <SpComb> hmm, so dhcp isn't working after all
[01:21] <LoonyPhoenix> Hey guys, I need help. I followed the instructions listed here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-20342.html, but bash said there was a mistake at line three and I couldn't and I couldn't complete them. Later, I discovered apt-get stopped working. How do i reverse the effect of the first two lines or complete lines three and four?
[01:22] <tnzr> dhclient -r, ifdown <iface>, ifup <iface>
[01:22] <TonInter> Hello everyone.
[01:22] <Harmsy> i need to install and configure openVPN, but when i follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNServer   i get a problem with the "cd /etc/openvpn/ && /usr/sbin/openvpn --genkey --secret static.key" part
[01:22] <Harmsy> i suppose i need to use sudo, but sudo tells me cd isnt a command
[01:22] <tnzr> ifdown might throw a warning about your iface already being down or something
[01:23] <spyro_boy> TonInter is having trouble setting up his partitions in the Ubuntu setup.
[01:23] <geokok> Hi.I am not a programmer so dont laugh. What do I need to write code in c++ (i mean to run and check, compile, etc)?Is there an enviroment like IDLE for python?
[01:23] <spyro_boy> He actually is pretty new to linux.
[01:23] <|thunder-afk> spyro_boy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[01:23] <MX4000> hey all
[01:23] <spyro_boy> I tried to help him, but I'm not even an ubuntu user.
[01:23] <MX4000> im goiing to sound really dumb
[01:23] <TonInter> :)
[01:23] <spyro_boy> |thunder-afk: no. Not mounting.
[01:24] <Grue_Lovah> How do I get X to recognize a new video card?
[01:24] <MX4000> i downloaded ubuntu and now i cant even install it
[01:24] <|thunder-afk> spyro_boy, my bad. try gparted
[01:24] <connyosis> geokok: you could use codeblocks or eclipse for a nice IDE
[01:24] <bruenig> Grue_Lovah, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:24] <spyro_boy> He needs to know how to set up the partitions so he can format them and install to them.
[01:24] <geokok> in the repos right?
[01:24] <MX4000> have burnt it to cd but when i boot it wont run from cd
[01:24] <geokok> i thought eclipse was java
[01:24] <connyosis> geokok: I'm not sure, I installed it from their website
[01:24] <pschulz01> !mp3
[01:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:24] <connyosis> geokok: eclipse-cdt is a C++ plugin for it
[01:24] <spyro_boy> |thunder-afk: well. There is a GUI in the setup, I remember only that though. Do you think you could help him?
[01:24] <Harmsy> MX4000: u probably need to fix boot order in BIOs
[01:25] <MX4000> have done that :P
[01:25] <turiddu> help with alc655
[01:25] <|thunder-afk> spyro_boy, its best to use 3 parts for ubuntu.
[01:25] <SpComb> tnzr: http://pastebin.zapotek.paivola.fi/6 ... doesn't get anywhere from there
[01:25] <turiddu> no sound in laptop
[01:25] <Grue_Lovah> bruenig:thank you
[01:25] <TonInter> No problem, done. I fixed it, thanks a lot.
[01:25] <TonInter> Ah damn it, it just started and stopped.
[01:26] <spyro_boy> |thunder-afk: well, I don't use ubuntu, tell TonInter about it. :)
[01:26] <MX4000> any other suggestions
[01:26] <spyro_boy> Sorry, I know this ackward.
[01:26] <|thunder-afk> spyro_boy,  a 2-5GB ext3 for mounting to /, as much as you want mounted to /home(your user files, music, videos, etc), and a a swap part the same size as your RAM.
[01:26] <lmosher> What's a good DVD authoring program with a DVD menu creator that can transcode (or encode) mpeg from .avi files?
[01:26] <|thunder-afk> spyro_boy, i have to goto werk soon
[01:26] <spyro_boy> |thunder-afk: no. The problem here isn't getting the partitions mounted.
[01:26] <ssdd534> hi is there anyway to use a flash wallpaper on my ubuntu?
[01:26] <bruenig> lmosher, there are no good DVD authoring programs, they are all terrible
[01:26] <spyro_boy> |thunder-afk: that's fine. Thank you for your time.
[01:27] <TonInter> |thunder-afk: I press "Finish partitioning and write changes to disk" and it starts to do the work, until it gets to the part where it says "Detecting file system" and it stops. Saying no root file system detected.
[01:27] <turiddu> help with alc655
[01:27] <turiddu> realteck
[01:27] <lmosher> bruenig, lol. Yeah I didn't like any of the options for Windows either. What is the -best- one?
[01:27] <digital__> I hav ea server that's hanging at shutdown. It has a hardware raid setup and the lights are blinking. Should I hit the power button or let it run for a while.
[01:27] <|thunder-afk> spyro_boy, then he has nothing mount to / during setup/
[01:27] <SpComb> tnzr: http://pastebin.zapotek.paivola.fi/7 <-- so it finds the wlan and connects to a AP
[01:27] <turiddu> no sound in laptop with dapper
[01:27] <spyro_boy> |thunder-afk: yeah. I know.
[01:27] <m0> is it possibel to place a different background for each workspace
[01:27] <sapaki> what command should i use to check for my wireless card in ubuntu
[01:27] <spyro_boy> |thunder-afk: I don't know how to help him though.
[01:28] <spyro_boy> I'm a slackware user.
[01:28] <bruenig> lmosher, I couldn't find much of anything worth a flip. But generally my goal is just to get the content of it on the dvd, whether the menu looks pretty is kind of unimportant
[01:28] <|thunder-afk> spyro_boy, well, tell him he needs a at minimum a partiton mounted to / and a swap partition.
[01:28] <Grue_Lovah> mo: good question, i was wondering about this also
[01:28] <ssdd534> hi is there anyway to use a flash wallpaper on my ubuntu?
[01:28] <bruenig> m0, it is possible. Check the forums
[01:28] <ScheissNUssen> ok
[01:28] <TonInter> |thunder-afk: I'm right here.
[01:28] <ScheissNUssen> I found a program that I want to install
[01:29] <bruenig> ssdd534, without absolute knowledge. I am going to say that it is unlikely
[01:29] <lmosher> bruenig, yeah, that's where I'm at. the tovidgui does pretty well except the comand it uses for the menu generation is wrong (it doesn't use -out). So let it run, make the crappy menu, encode the avi files and then re-run the menu-maker program with -out
[01:29] <|thunder-afk> TonInter, when you used gparted during the instasll process, did you mount a part to /   ?
[01:29] <ScheissNUssen> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/games/kxmame
[01:29] <ScheissNUssen> how do I install that ?
[01:29] <digital__> I have a server that isn't shuting down. It's got hardware raid and the lights are flashing. Should I hit the power button or let it run for a while.
[01:29] <geokok> ok i am downloading eclipse with c++ and python plugins. Thanks
[01:29] <spyro_boy> |thunder-afk: yeah but we can't seem to get it to do that. I actually tried to get him to read me what he saw, but it didn't quiet work out.
[01:29] <spyro_boy> /bin/sh: line 1: kernel: command not found
[01:29] <spyro_boy> fuck
[01:30] <connyosis> geokok: no problem, good luck with it
[01:30] <spyro_boy> Linux pascal 2.6.14.6-grsecshell1 #4 Fri Mar 10 00:49:57 EST 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:30] <bruenig> !language
[01:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:30] <spyro_boy> er.
[01:30] <spyro_boy> Sorry!
[01:30] <ScheissNUssen> !info kxmame
[01:30] <ubotu> kxmame: A KDE frontend for xmame emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.91-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 348 kB, installed size 1444 kB
[01:30] <TonInter> Well, since I'm quite new to Ubuntu and Linux in general, I don't know the answer to your question.
[01:30] <Grue_Lovah> m0: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6980
[01:30] <spyro_boy> spyroboy@britestar:~$ uname -a
[01:30] <lmosher> bruenig, then use dvdauthor on the XML and growisofs. It works OK, but the menu is really really basic. i tried Qdvdauthor that LOOKED like it could do more but would write an XML that dvdauthor would fail on for whatever reason.
[01:30] <spyro_boy> Linux britestar 2.6.17 #17 Fri Aug 11 16:17:32 GMT-5 2006 i686 athlon-4 i386 GNU/Linux
[01:30] <bruenig> ScheissNUssen, only use that if you have kde
[01:30] <spyro_boy> It's not old.
[01:30] <ScheissNUssen> ok
[01:30] <Grue_Lovah> thanks again
[01:30] <turiddu> prb with notebook alc655
[01:31] <bruenig> spyro_boy, the new slackware 11.0 is set to come out with kernel 2.4.x, I thought that was funny
[01:31] <geokok> Other question. On a scale from 1-10 what are the chances of braking my laptop install if i try to get xgl?I have ati mobile x700.
[01:31] <spyro_boy> bruenig: I'm using a -current version.
[01:32] <ScheissNUssen> ok
[01:32] <ScheissNUssen> so how do I install this version of mame ?
[01:32] <ScheissNUssen> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/games/xmame-x
[01:32] <SpComb> tnzr: hmm, I'm getting a lot of DDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready in dmesg though...
[01:32] <ScheissNUssen> I think that is the one that I need
[01:32] <|thunder-afk> TonInter, lets say you have 2 drives. one with a ntfs winXP partition, and another blank for ubuntu. When you get to the place where you caqn modify your partitions, create a 4GB ext3 partition, a 1 GB sweap partition and another partition in ext3 of the rest of the drive(or as much user space as you want).
[01:32] <TonInter> No root file system is defined. That's the exact error I get. Help, anyone ?
[01:32] <m0> !aptitude
[01:32] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[01:32] <ScheissNUssen> !info xmame-x
[01:32] <ubotu> xmame-x: X binaries for the Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.101-1 (dapper), package size 9155 kB, installed size 39004 kB
[01:32] <jhona> !dvd
[01:32] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:32] <rem1> hey, im trying to get my broadcom wireless card working, so im trying to use this guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193350 however, when i type in the first line of code
[01:32] <bruenig> ScheissNUssen, do sudo apt-get install xmame-x
[01:33] <rem1> i get "E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-386"
[01:33] <bruenig> ScheissNUssen, check out the synaptic package manager, that seems to be something you might be comfortable with for installing packages from the repos
[01:33] <TonInter> I got 4 drives, one ntfs and one fat32 for windows, and two others for Ubuntu: ext3 with 18.6 GB and swap with 764.9 mb
[01:33] <rem1> can someone help me out?
[01:33] <|thunder-afk> TonInter, then it'll ask you where you want all your parts mounted. the 4GB one set to "/" the swap drive set to "swap" and the user space set to "/home" the the XP drive should be something like "/media/hda1" or you can change that to "/media/winxp" like I do.
[01:33] <bruenig> TonINter, where did you get a 764.9 mb drive.
[01:34] <TonInter> It was set up automaticuly.
[01:34] <TonInter> In the begining.
[01:34] <|thunder-afk> i have a 200MB drive collecting dust. it still works.
[01:34] <pushpop`> is there a Ubuntu CBT training video out there by any chance?
[01:34] <spyro_boy> |thunder-afk: haha. Yeah, I have a few 400mb laying around too.
[01:34] <|thunder-afk> TonInter, try doing it manually
[01:34] <bruenig> 200 is a round number
[01:34] <bruenig> 764.9 not so much
[01:34] <|thunder-afk> lol
[01:35] <ScheissNUssen> thanks again all who helped me
[01:35] <ScheissNUssen> much appreciated
[01:35] <|thunder-afk> its prolly 800 decimal, 764.9 octal
[01:35] <TonInter> One thing, previously, I pressed Finish partitioning, and it started to do the work and I restarted the PC. So, is that a problem ?
[01:35] <bruenig> I think he meant partition not drive. That is more likely
[01:35] <|thunder-afk> Tonus, yep
[01:35] <TonInter> Oh, yes
[01:36] <|thunder-afk> do it manually the way I just mentioned
[01:36] <TonInter> Can you repeat that please ?
[01:36] <TonInter> I didn't see it.
[01:37] <mhminai> \QUIT
[01:37] <|thunder-afk> TonInter, lets say you have 2 drives. one with a ntfs winXP partition, and another blank for ubuntu. When you get to the place where you caqn modify your partitions, create a 4GB ext3 partition, a 1 GB sweap partition and another partition in ext3 of the rest of the drive(or as much user space as you want).
[01:37] <pushpop`> is there a Ubuntu CBT training video out there by any chance?
[01:37] <virogenesis> amsn rocks
[01:37] <mhminai> Sorry for that. Was trying to leave :-(
[01:37] <|thunder-afk> TonInter, then it'll ask you where you want all your parts mounted. the 4GB one set to "/" the swap drive set to "swap" and the user space set to "/home" the the XP drive should be something like "/media/hda1" or you can change that to "/media/winxp" like I do.
[01:37] <jimmygoon> mhminai ... you meant /quit
[01:37] <jimmygoon> lolz
[01:37] <bruenig> pushpop' what is CBT?
[01:37] <mhminai> Thanks Jimmy
[01:37] <TonInter> Oh, so I should have two ext3 partitions ?
[01:37] <pushpop`> bruenig: computer based training
[01:37] <tam> is thunderbird the only mail client that will forward from a certain template depending on contect of an email?
[01:38] <|thunder-afk> yacc, that way you can reinstall, then choose not to reformat your /home mount and all your personal files and settings will stay intact
[01:38] <|thunder-afk> ment yep
[01:38] <|thunder-afk> not yacc
[01:38] <bruenig> is there a Ubuntu computer based training training video out there by any chance?
[01:38] <bruenig> that simply doesn't make sense
[01:38] <|thunder-afk> bruenig, ive seen some, just dont remember where
[01:38] <ketetha_> i keep downloading aim through wine and it wont ever open! why is this
[01:38] <|thunder-afk> try gaim
[01:38] <TonInter> |thunder-afk: I don't have any data there, so I don't mind formmatting it.
[01:39] <bruenig> ketetha, why are you downlading aim?
[01:39] <TonInter> formatting*
[01:39] <ketetha_> |thunder-afk, i do. i dont like it
[01:39] <ketetha_> bruenig, becaue gaim isnt satisfying my needs
[01:39] <|thunder-afk> TonInter, but once you do, you will. you willl have to format it the first time
[01:39] <ketetha_> i cnat direct connect with nayone.a nd thats something ineed. and i've tried several times. and i dont want to even deal with it, i jsut want aim
[01:39] <jimmygoon> aim from aol for linux is terrible
[01:39] <jimmygoon> What do you mean "can't connect"
[01:39] <bruenig> hmm, well try to save it to disk and then wine /path/to/aim.exe or whatever it is called instead of opening it with wine as an option from the browser
[01:39] <jimmygoon> sounds like an NAT problem
[01:39] <bruenig> what is wrong with gaim?
[01:39] <ketetha_> jimmygoon, i dont want the linux i want the one for windows haha it like wont direct connect
[01:39] <|thunder-afk> jimmygoon, he said direct connect
[01:40] <ketetha_> everything is wrong with gaim!
[01:40] <ketetha_> she said direct connect
[01:40] <bruenig> what specifically does aim have that gaim doesn't I wonder
[01:40] <jimmygoon> lol, I know and it sounds like a NAT error, I say that because I use DC rather frequently
[01:40] <bruenig> except only one protocol
[01:40] <TonInter> |thunder-afk: Mind if I PM you ? There's a lot of stuff written here and I'm confused.
[01:40] <|thunder-afk> ok folks, im off to work, TonInter the folks here should be able to help you get those parts setup properly.
[01:40] <tnzr> SpComb: sec
[01:41] <TonInter> Ok. Thanks for your help |thunder-afk.
[01:41] <ketetha_> anyone nkow the answer?
[01:41] <|thunder-afk> TonInter, go ahead
[01:41] <ketetha_> of why its not letting me download it
[01:41] <bruenig> ketetha_, i just gave you an answer
[01:41] <bruenig> Ketetha_, download it and save it to disk, don't select open with wine
[01:41] <SpComb> there isn't very much on google about that "eth1: link is not ready", best thing is a 4-day old ubuntuforums with 0 replies
[01:41] <ketetha_> bruenig, it wont direct connect
[01:41] <ketetha_> how do i save it to the disk
[01:41] <bruenig> ketetha_, give me the url
[01:42] <ketetha_> bruenig, url for what?
[01:42] <tnzr> SpComb: youre specifying an ip right?
[01:42] <bruenig> the download, I am not understanding what you want. I thought you wanted to download the aim client
[01:43] <bruenig> ketetha_, am I correct in that assessment or have I misunderstood what you are asking?
[01:43] <ketetha_> bruenig, yess here let me show you
[01:43] <ketetha_> bruenig, http://www.aim.com/get_aim/win/other_win.adp?aolp=0
[01:44] <bruenig> ketetha_, before you do anything, I must tell you there is no guarantee it will work
[01:44] <jimmygoon> I can tell you almost for a fact that the AIM Triton beta didn't work in wine, or at least it didn't work for me thats for sure
[01:44] <Magus_X> how i can connect via PPPOE in ubuntu?
[01:44] <DARKGuy> Greetings :) is there a way to convert MIDI to MP3/WAV? or to make XMMS play MIDIs? :(
[01:44] <ketetha_> bruenig, kay
[01:44] <jimmygoon> yea, I would say its less likely to make dc work under aim under wine under linux but I suppose if you need it its worth a shot
[01:44] <SpComb> tnzr: no, I'm trying to get dhcp to work
[01:44] <bruenig> katetha_, open a terminal and type wget http://ftp.newaol.com/aim/win95/Install_AIM.exe
[01:44] <ketetha_> bruenig, kayy ;)
[01:44] <jimmygoon> ketetha_ have you gotten it to work in windows? Do you know that it DirectConnect works for yo u
[01:45] <|thunder-afk> ketetha_, direct connect requires router config
[01:45] <Magus_X> how i can connect via PPPOE in ubuntu?
[01:45] <ketetha_> router config?
[01:45] <ketetha_> it says it works
[01:45] <ketetha_> but it doesn ton my frineds computers
[01:45] <ketetha_> wow bruenig left
[01:45] <ketetha_> haha well it seems ot be working
[01:46] <tnzr> spcomb: ive had that problem and fixed it
[01:46] <tnzr> trying to figure out what i did
[01:46] <ketetha_> ok i did wget and i guess its saved to the disk
[01:46] <ketetha_> now what happens?
[01:46] <m0> hmm so the only way to change desktop backgrounds for each workspace is by using wallapopoz
[01:47] <SpComb> tnzr: well, I'm getting that link not ready error every time now, seems to be the problem
[01:47] <bb|Gishnob`Alt> how do i make modprobe use an snd-cs4236 chip on startup?
[01:48] <cello_rasp> how do i install ubuntu base? i have the option to install server but i dont want a webserver
[01:48] <cello_rasp> i am at the install screen
[01:49] <bb|Gishnob`Alt> anyone?
[01:49] <alexcamilo> would a good graphics card with the proper driver help in dvd playback?
[01:49] <|thunder-afk> add that module to /etc/modprobe.d/modules
[01:49] <alexcamilo> in ubuntu?
[01:49] <alexcamilo> or is it all handled by the cpu
[01:49] <TonInter> Thanks a lot guys, good night.
[01:49] <noodle> i get some "Audio output unavailable: the device is busy" when trying to listen to amarok and youtube at the same time? :S
[01:50] <bb|Gishnob`Alt> i dont have the modules file in that dir
[01:50] <bb|Gishnob`Alt> do i just make it?
[01:50] <|thunder-afk> no
[01:50] <SpComb> tnzr: also, my link quality and such are all 0 in iwconfig... do I need to do something to get it to actually connect?
[01:51] <|thunder-afk> bbrazil, its /etc/modules   my bad
[01:51] <|thunder-afk> bb|Gishnob`Alt, that was for you
[01:51] <bb|Gishnob`Alt> lol
[01:51] <bb|Gishnob`Alt> ok thanks
[01:51] <bb|Gishnob`Alt> ill try that
[01:51] <|thunder-afk> bb|Gishnob`Alt, also, you may have to blacklist the default driver if there is one.
[01:52] <|thunder-afk> gotta go. later all
[01:52] <bb|Gishnob`Alt> so i just type snd-cs4236 in that config file?
[01:52] <digital__> how would I monitor a 3ware raid card
[01:52] <digital__> ??
[01:52] <tnzr> SpComb: yeah now youll have to use whatever driver you are using to connect
[01:52] <|thunder-afk> bb|Gishnob`Alt, yep
[01:52] <bb|Gishnob`Alt> ok thanks
[01:52] <tnzr> SpComb: unencrypted, right?
[01:53] <deviloffirewalls> i have two harddrives one windows, one linux, i can see the windows hard drive in linux but it wont let me read anything
[01:54] <SpComb> tnzr: yes, unencrypted
[01:54] <SpComb> tnzr: and what do you mean with that? Do I have to select a driver somewhere?
[01:54] <deviloffirewalls> i have two harddrives one windows, one linux, i can see the windows hard drive in linux but it wont let me read anything
[01:54] <SpComb> if I try using iwlist to query stuff, I get a bunch of errors and "unkown xxxx information"
[01:55] <alexcamilo> deviloffirewalls: linux cant  write to ntfs
[01:55] <SpComb> hmm, now it says "SoftMAC: Authentication timed out with <mac addr of ap>"
[01:55] <deviloffirewalls> can it read though
[01:55] <SpComb> in dmesg
[01:55] <deviloffirewalls> i want to play music
[01:55] <_azrael> !ntfs > deviloffirewals
[01:55] <George> erm, which app is responsible for keeping mtab up to date on an ubuntu system?
[01:55] <deviloffirewalls> i dont want to edit anyhting on the drive
[01:55] <alexcamilo> deviloffirewalls: linux cant write to NTFS but it can write to FAT32. i created a fat32 partition
[01:55] <_azrael> !ntfs > deviloffirewalls
[01:56] <Apeiron> hey all :) me and some friend need some help to get a it8212-raid-controller to work - google says the module for that should be in the kernel since .15 - and the livecd can mount the drives, but after the reboot to the freshly installed system the kernel halts with the error "alert! hdd2 does not exist! dropping to a shell!".. thx for help in advance :)
[01:56] <bb|Gishnob`Alt> |thunder-afk, thanks it worked
[01:56] <deviloffirewalls> ive heard you can read from ntfS BUT not edit
[01:56] <tnzr> spcomb: does iwconfig show you as connected right now?
[01:56] <_azrael> deviloffirewalls: You can read, and writing works, but is unstable/may destroy your fs.
[01:57] <trygg_> Heh, whats the name of enemy territory ?
[01:57] <deviloffirewalls> how can i set up linux so that i can read my hard drive
[01:57] <SpComb> tnzr: well, it shows the mac of the AP here next to "Access point"
[01:57] <deviloffirewalls> it says i dont have the permissions
[01:58] <_azrael> deviloffirewalls: Look at mount umask options.
[01:58] <_azrael> deviloffirewalls: It's probably just mounted so only root can use it.
[01:58] <deviloffirewalls> wheres that?
[01:58] <|thunder-afk> bb|Gishnob`Alt, great :)
[01:59] <deviloffirewalls> where is mount umask
[01:59] <alexcamilo> deviloffirewalls: i created a fat32 partition. i use that to transfer files between windows. there is also an ext2/3 driver for windows. i tried that and it worked fine for me. the only problem i ran into was when linux shut down improperly("pull the plug") it wouldnt mount in windows untill linux fixed it.
[01:59] <_azrael> deviloffirewalls: man mount
[01:59] <George> arggghhh ubuntu's support for JFS sucks
[01:59] <tnzr> SpComb: hmm
[01:59] <_azrael> deviloffirewalls: Additionally, man chmod to learn about the umask code (to be given in octal)
[01:59] <deviloffirewalls> look, im a bit of a noob to linux
[02:00] <_azrael> That's why I gave you the man pages...
[02:00] <deviloffirewalls> where do you get them
[02:00] <SpComb> tnzr: now I'm getting stuff about authentication with a ap into dmesg
[02:00] <_azrael> Type in "man somecommand" at a console, and the manual for that program will show up.
[02:00] <SpComb> errors about how it got a auth resp, but that no queue item exists
[02:00] <tnzr> SpComb: hmm
[02:00] <_azrael> In this case, I'm saying "man mount" will give you information on how to set the umask paramater for a hard drive mount.
[02:00] <cello_rasp> do i need to install xfce to use icewm??
[02:01] <_azrael> And that "man chmod" will give you information about how to figure out what umask code you want.
[02:01] <SpComb> so there is some kind of data going through the card, but it's not quite working yet
[02:02] <tnzr> SpComb: yeah it sounds like the card is working, it just needs some new info about the network
[02:02] <tnzr> SpComb: but I honeslty am not sure where that is for WEP :) I know for wpa_supplicant
[02:02] <deviloffirewalls> im in terminla
[02:02] <deviloffirewalls> *terminal
[02:02] <deviloffirewalls> i still dont understand
[02:02] <tnzr> SpComb: ps -ef |grep wpa
[02:03] <tnzr> see if you are running wpa_supplicant (sorry if you already told me you werent)
[02:03] <_azrael> deviloffirewalls: Actually, I just realized. You might just want a solution that works rather than leraning--do you want to learn how this works, or do you just want a quick command that'll let you use it?
[02:03] <deviloffirewalls> quick command
[02:03] <deviloffirewalls> soz
[02:03] <SpComb> tnzr: nothing
[02:03] <|Steve|> Is there a better way to find out which file belongs to a package other than finding the missing file name and googling for it?
[02:03] <tnzr> SpComb: ok one sec
[02:04] <ScheissNUssen> alright I installed xmame-x... using the commands that you told me to use... it looks as if everything installed perfectly.. but, where did the program go? I found it on the drive but cannot get it to run
[02:04] <Chrono86> hey guys, could somebody please point me to the best instructions to installing nvidia drivers on an AMD64 system?
[02:04] <ScheissNUssen> however i did get it to run one of the files that it runs
[02:04] <marc_> I am having trouble getting networking on my old laptop an i ask for help here?
[02:04] <_azrael> deviloffirewalls: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdx? /path/to/mountpoint -o umask=0755
[02:04] <deviloffirewalls> where do you enter it
[02:04] <abner> Hiya. I need some help. I have Slax installed on a USB key. I would like to install Ubuntu on my hard drive...any way to do this without an optical drive?
[02:04] <_azrael> At the command line.
[02:05] <deviloffirewalls> in terminal?
[02:05] <_azrael> Replace /dev/hdx? with the path to your ntfs partition
[02:05] <_azrael> Yes.
[02:05] <tnzr> hey SpComb: is that machine on the net at all (via another interface?)
[02:05] <abner> Hm?
[02:05] <abner> basically
[02:05] <SpComb> tnzr: one thing is that in lsmod ieee80211softmac shows up, so I'm not sure if it's actually using that .arm that I cp into /var/firmware/
[02:05] <SpComb> tnzr: well, I've tried on and off
[02:05] <natemanafter> Need some help here with a dapper install. Is there a way to do the install using the old non-graphical installer?
[02:05] <abner> I have a laptop with no optical drive
[02:05] <SpComb> I have a ethernet cable here
[02:06] <_azrael> natemanafter: Get the "Alternative install" disc instead
[02:06] <abner> So.
[02:06] <natemanafter> Dang =)
[02:06] <Chrono86> has anybody here installed nvidia drivers on an AMD64 system, and how did you do it?
[02:06] <tnzr> I have ieee80211, ieee80211_crypt, ieee80211_crypt_ccmp
[02:06] <abner> I have a Ubuntu ISO on my external
[02:06] <theCore> Chrono86: sudo aptitude install nivdia-glx; sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg; sudo nvidia-xconfig; restart and enjoy!
[02:06] <ScheissNUssen> Where do files go after I install them using the konsole? I installed xmame and i cannot find it on any of them menus?
[02:06] <SpComb> tnzr: is there any way to check that it's using that firmware file?
[02:06] <abner> And SLAX on a USB key
[02:06] <abner> And no optical drive
[02:06] <abner> So
[02:07] <abner> How do I install Ubuntu from SLAX with no optical?
[02:07] <abner> :( Pleaaaase? I donated money once, to the Ubuntu foundation.
[02:07] <theCore> abner: you can use debootrap
[02:08] <abner> What's that?
[02:08] <tnzr> SpComb: you can do modinfo <module> to find version info on the actual modinfo, if thats what you mean.. I assume that whatever module is loaded is the one being used, so if you see it in an lsmod, Im guessing it is using that one
[02:08] <marc_> I am having trouble getting networking on my old laptop. It is a 150mhz mmx with 64mg ram (Samsung S600) running stock standard xubuntu 6.06, kernel 2.6.15-26-386 There are 2 ways we should be able to connect to the internet on this machine but neither are working for me at the moment Unicorn USB WL54G wireless adapter (Chipset is ZyDAS Zd1211b) this is the preferred method but as a back up plan I have some Xircom PS-CEM-28 combo 10BaseT Ethernet 28.8kbs/33.6k
[02:08] <marc_> bs fax modem PCMCIA cards that i have had working in the past on this machine.
[02:08] <abner> Can I PM you? I'm pretty new and this would probably take a dumb question or two
[02:08] <theCore> abner: (btw, money don't drives open-source fans)
[02:08] <marc_> Unicorn USB WL54G wireless adapter (Chipset is ZyDAS Zd1211b) lsusb shows Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0ace:1215 ZyDas Bus 001 Devide 001: IS 0000:0000 so it sees it OK
[02:08] <abner> Excuse me.
[02:08] <expatrick> Hey I 0wn my system now! woohoo!
[02:09] <expatrick> thanks to those trying to help me. I had somehow removed myself from the admin group
[02:09] <Chrono86> I just tried that method the core, it didn't seem to do anything..I didn't see the nvidia logo when I restarted x
[02:09] <deviloffirewalls> it still does not work
[02:09] <theCore> abner: just a sec
[02:09] <marc_> I have done modprobe zd1211 & I can see it in then in lsmod (but this disappears with a reboot) lsmod |grep zd zd1211 206624 0 usbcore 130692 3 zd1211,usbhid,uhci_hcd   iwconfig shows lo no wireless extensions
[02:09] <marc_> there is nothing obvious in dmsg
[02:09] <expatrick> So I went in using recovery mode and added myself back
[02:09] <SteveL> Everytime I do a apt-get update I get the following errors:
[02:09] <theCore> !nvidia > Chrono86
[02:09] <expatrick> and presto
[02:09] <SteveL> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[02:09] <SteveL> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/universe/source/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[02:09] <ScheissNUssen> Where do files go after I install them using the konsole? I installed xmame and i cannot find it on any of them menus?
[02:10] <deviloffirewalls> is azrel still here
[02:10] <_azrael> Yes.
[02:10] <deviloffirewalls> it does not work
[02:10] <theCore> SteveL: try a mirror, like http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/
[02:10] <_azrael> deviloffirewalls: OK, what does it say when it doesn't work?
[02:10] <SteveL> Ok, I'll try that.
[02:10] <theCore> abner: do you got a free partition?
[02:10] <deviloffirewalls> dave@Media-Centre:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda -o umask=0755 Usage: mount -V                 : print version
[02:10] <deviloffirewalls>        mount -h                 : print this help
[02:10] <deviloffirewalls>        mount                    : list mounted filesystems
[02:10] <deviloffirewalls>        mount -l                 : idem, including volume labels
[02:10] <deviloffirewalls> So far the informational part. Next the mounting.
[02:10] <deviloffirewalls> The command is `mount [-t fstype]  something somewhere'.
[02:10] <deviloffirewalls> Details found in /etc/fstab may be omitted.
[02:10] <abner> Nope.
[02:10] <deviloffirewalls>        mount -a [-t|-O]  ...     : mount all stuff from /etc/fstab
[02:11] <willys_fueguino> How do I should do to see subtitles on totem-xine????
[02:11] <deviloffirewalls>        mount device             : mount device at the known place
[02:11] <deviloffirewalls>        mount directory          : mount known device here
[02:11] <abner> But
[02:11] <_azrael> deviloffirewalls: stop.
[02:11] <deviloffirewalls>        mount -t type dev dir    : ordinary mount command
[02:11] <deviloffirewalls> Note that one does not really mount a device, one mounts
[02:11] <abner> I can make one
[02:11] <deviloffirewalls> a filesystem (of the given type) found on the device.
[02:11] <deviloffirewalls> One can also mount an already visible directory tree elsewhere:
[02:11] <deviloffirewalls>        mount --bind olddir newdir
[02:11] <deviloffirewalls> or move a subtree:
[02:11] <_azrael> deviloffirewalls: Don't output that much.
[02:11] <deviloffirewalls>        mount --move olddir newdir
[02:11] <theCore> !pastebin
[02:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:11] <deviloffirewalls> A device can be given by name, say /dev/hda1 or /dev/cdrom,
[02:11] <pushpop`> is there any training videos for ubuntu in english?
[02:11] <deviloffirewalls> or by label, using  -L label  or by uuid, using  -U uuid .
[02:11] <deviloffirewalls> Other options: [-nfFrsvw]  [-o options]  [-p passwdfd] .
[02:11] <theCore> !pastebin > deviloffirewalls
[02:11] <abner> You want me to make a filesystem on hda1?
[02:11] <deviloffirewalls> For many more details, say  man 8 mount .
[02:11] <deviloffirewalls> woah
[02:11] <deviloffirewalls> it brings up a helpfile thing
[02:11] <willys_fueguino> How do I should do to see subtitles on totem-xine????
[02:11] <theCore> !ops
[02:11] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[02:11] <rob> ?
[02:11] <SpComb> deviloffirewalls: *never* paste more than three lines into IRC
[02:12] <_azrael> deviloffirewalls: PM me instead. It'll be easier to see. I think you must have misinterpreted my command somehow.
[02:12] <theCore> I thought it was never going to end
[02:12] <deviloffirewalls> soz
[02:12] <nalioth> deviloffirewalls: please read the /topic and read what chanserv tells you when you enter channels.  pasting is extremely rude
[02:12] <HeathenDan> willys_fueguino, with great difficulty
[02:13] <HeathenDan> is it internal or external subs?
[02:13] <_azrael> deviloffirewalls: Also, your issue is that you left out the target directory.
[02:13] <willys_fueguino> HeathenDan: And with anoter program??? Is to watch an avi file
[02:13] <theCore> abner: yes, mke2fs -j /dev/hdxy
[02:13] <_azrael> deviloffirewalls: If you'll note my command earlier, it did have /path/to/mountdir in the command.
[02:13] <HeathenDan> answer my q
[02:13] <willys_fueguino> lilo: Can I speak tou you in private?
[02:13] <HeathenDan> ok
[02:13] <abner> Let me do that...
[02:13] <theCore> abner: then, mkdir /mnt/ubuntu
[02:14] <willys_fueguino> External HeathenDan
[02:14] <HeathenDan> ok
[02:14] <abner> Can we take this to PM? No problem if you can't
[02:14] <hangfire> Im looking at the how to on binary graphic drivers, and it says that if my ATI card is below 9500 I already have 3D acceleration. I that really true?
[02:14] <nl> Seveas are you there?
[02:14] <HeathenDan> then just load the sub
[02:14] <willys_fueguino> HeathenDan: but How??? I don find that option
[02:14] <theCore> abner: mount /dev/hd[x] [y]  /mnt/ubuntu
[02:14] <SillyZ> hangfire, ive got a 9200, and havent had any problems with it
[02:14] <HeathenDan> view > subtitles
[02:14] <abner> I'll do that
[02:15] <theCore> abner: do you got a swap partitions?
[02:15] <hangfire> wow SillyZ, I just pop in my 9250 and it will have 3D acceleration automatically?
[02:15] <SillyZ> debating between the original ubuntu, or kubuntu..... decisions decisions...
[02:15] <abner> First I have to A) Download a Ubuntu ISO (should take a few moments) and B) make a filesystem
[02:15] <DragnFly> Okay first offf I want to say I dont know nothing about linux really. If I have Ubuntu with Gnome, do I need to switch to KDE to run a KDE program? or can I get it to work under gnome?
[02:15] <abner> Any way we can PM...?
[02:15] <HeathenDan> totem has crappy support for internal softsubs. external subs are easier
[02:15] <SillyZ> hangfire, havent had any problems with my 9200, and glxgears seems to be rather happy
[02:15] <_azrael> DragnFly: Nope, no need to switch. Just install the kde program from synaptic or apt-get, then run it.
[02:15] <hangfire> k, thx SillyZ
[02:16] <theCore> abner: you don't need the iso
[02:16] <_azrael> DragnFly: If you want to know why this works, PM me and I'll explain out of the channel.
[02:16] <abner> Oh
[02:16] <theCore> abner: ok, PM me
[02:16] <deviloffirewalls> i tried it but i doesnt work, have
[02:16] <willys_fueguino>  HeathenDan:What's wrong with your 9250 radeon??
[02:16] <deviloffirewalls> pmed you with why
[02:16] <abner> >_> Did you get a PM?
[02:16] <verbose> _azrael: explaining in the channel helps everyone, not just DragnFly
[02:16] <_azrael> deviloffirewalls: I did not get any PM.
[02:16] <HeathenDan> something's wrong with it?
[02:17] <verbose> it works because said program will download and install kdelibs as a dependency
[02:17] <DragnFly> not registered azrael
[02:17] <DragnFly> can't send a message
[02:17] <iku__> hey there. i wanted to remove the gnome-games from my ubuntu, but when i select gnome-games to be removed in synaptics it also wants to remove ubuntu-desktop. does anybody know if it removes everything or just the games part of it?
[02:17] <deviloffirewalls> i have now
[02:17] <deviloffirewalls> i have now _azrael
[02:17] <marcus___> is it possible to use a usb network device in ubuntu?
[02:18] <HeathenDan> no prob with removing gnome-desktop
[02:18] <theCore> abner: ?
[02:18] <eZ> hi people!! ...can anyone help me with a strange problems ?? ..after i've downloaded all OS updates..all small icons under Applications and rest of buttons above seems gone!! ...how can i bring them back ??
[02:18] <verbose> marcus___: yes
[02:18] <_azrael> Ah. Verbose just gave you the short version up there, but essentially it runs the necessary daemons in the background so that the kde programs can still use the hooks.
[02:18] <willys_fueguino> HeathenDan: Try to chat with me using my nick so its less confusing. Are you trying to activate your 3d acceleration?? or were you saying that you just did??
[02:18] <HeathenDan> or ubuntu-desktop
[02:18] <HeathenDan> i didnt say there's something wrong with my video card
[02:18] <marcus___> verbose: Is it easier to set up than an atheros card?
[02:18] <_azrael> deviloffirewalls: Something must be wrong, b/c I'm not receiving anything.
[02:18] <HeathenDan> did i? =\
[02:18] <deviloffirewalls> _azrael: when i enter this: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda /path/to/mountpoint -o umask=0755
[02:18] <DragnFly> Well its like this, all I know is it seeds it needs QT 3.1 or something I think, which I believe is KDE
[02:19] <verbose> marcus___: usb should be automagically detected(kernel modules are already built and whatnot) ... i'm not sure about atheros support
[02:19] <deviloffirewalls> _azrael: it comes up with this: mount: mount point /path/to/mountpoint does not exist
[02:19] <_azrael> deviloffirewalls: well of course you have to replace /path/to/mountpoint with where you want it mounted to...
[02:19] <verbose> marcus___: i'm sure they're about the same ease or difficulty
[02:19] <deviloffirewalls> thats what ive been confused about
[02:19] <iku__> was that directed towards me HeathenDan?
[02:19] <_azrael>  /path/to/mountpoint was just a placeholder pathname to tell you what that parameter was supposed to be
[02:19] <HeathenDan> willys_fueguino, just pm me if you want a priv convo
[02:19] <HeathenDan> not to you iku
[02:19] <deviloffirewalls> so i remove it
[02:20] <iku__> oh okay :(
[02:20] <_azrael> OK, deviloffirewalls, execute the next two things I say
[02:20] <_azrael> mkdir tmpmnt
[02:20] <HeathenDan> oh, right. it is. if you mean removing ubuntu-desktop
[02:20] <_azrael> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda tmpmnt -o umask 0755
[02:20] <_azrael> And then your drive should be in the folder tmpmnt
[02:20] <marcus___> verbose: i plugged in the usb key and nothing..... doesnt even light up
[02:20] <JamieBE> Hi everyone.
[02:20] <JamieBE> Just a quick update
[02:21] <_azrael> marcus___: Check dmesg, see if a new device appeared. If so, mount it.
[02:21] <HeathenDan> ubuntu-desktop is just a convenient way of grouping several diff apps under one set. if you remove one component, you do not remove them all.
[02:22] <SpComb> tnzr: http://pastebin.zapotek.paivola.fi/8 <-- I tried a fresh cycle, but didn't help... I'll go to sleep now though, I'll try again tomorrow
[02:22] <nuaimat> hi guys , i have a TV card , i have just plugged it now into my PC and make a restart , i can see it's listed when i type "lspci" but the device is shown as  0000:02:03.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors: Unknown device 5110 (rev 01)
[02:22] <nuaimat> will it work ?
[02:22] <deviloffirewalls> its not in there
[02:22] <marc_> Xircom PS-CEM-28 combo 10BaseT Ethernet 28.8kbs/33.6kbs fax modem PCMCIA card. worked under sarge around 1 year ago guessing kernel 2.2, I remember i had to do a modprobe but cant be 100% sure I have the right module modprobe xirc2ps_cs seems to do nothing
[02:23] <HellDragon> humhumhum
[02:23] <JamieBE> A few weeks ago, I screwed about with my X configuration, and when I did eventually fix it the graphics were all choppy. People suggested running glxgears to find out what the framerate was, but nobody has a solution (the guy who said I should get a new gfx card doesnt count!). Well, it turns out that my x.conf file was using the "nv" drivers, not the "nvidia" drivers. Anyone experiencing similar problems might consider this a good starting point! :)
[02:23] <marcus___> _azrael: it found it,but how do i mount it?
[02:23] <Unio> hmm. i can't login. it says "System administrator may not log in from this screen" or something very similiar to that; anyone know what's wrong?
[02:23] <deviloffirewalls> it does not work
[02:23] <marc_> cardctl status shows Socket0: 5V 16-bit PC Card funtion 0: [ready]  Socket 1: no card So the pcmcia slot sees something.
[02:23] <abner> theCore: Not responding to my PMs?
[02:23] <ScheissNUssen> if .exe files dont open up when idouble click them then what program do I use to open them?
[02:23] <nuaimat> deviloffirewalls: is that for me ?
[02:23] <deviloffirewalls> _azrael: it does not work, it has made dir tmpmnt but it is not in there
[02:23] <theCore> abner: I didn't get any
[02:24] <JamieBE> WinE ScheissNUssen
[02:24] <ScheissNUssen> how do I access WinE?
[02:24] <JamieBE> I will find out for you, please hold.
[02:24] <ScheissNUssen> thanks
[02:24] <nuaimat> guys , can anyone help me please?
[02:24] <Unio> is it because i chose 'root' for my username?
[02:24] <JamieBE> Just out of curiosity, what EXE is it ScheissNUssen?
[02:25] <_azrael> marcus___: sudo mount /dev/devicename /path/to/a/folder
[02:25] <ScheissNUssen> xmame-x
[02:25] <ScheissNUssen> arcade rom emulator
[02:25] <nuaimat> guys, HELP ME PLEASE ,i have a TV card , i have just plugged it now into my PC and make a restart , i can see it's listed when i type "lspci" but the device is shown as  0000:02:03.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors: Unknown device 5110 (rev 01)
[02:25] <jramsey> Unio,  root is not a standard login name for ubuntu; if you need root priv use sudo on a command basis
[02:25] <JamieBE> Ahhh
[02:25] <abner> theCore: I sent you several
[02:25] <jramsey> and log in as your normal username
[02:25] <Unio> jramsey: but i can't login to my desktop
[02:25] <jramsey> Unio, what username did you specify when you installed Ub?
[02:25] <marcus___> _azrael: silly question what is the device name and should i mount it to dev since it is a wireless network device?
[02:25] <JamieBE> WinE doesn't handle graphicly intense apps
[02:26] <Unio> root >_<
[02:26] <torch> hmm
[02:26] <unwakata> Is it normal to have to restart the updating of Ubuntu for all the packages to download successfully? Quite a bit time out and then fail.
[02:26] <mcphail> Unio: why on earth did you pick "root" as a user name???
[02:26] <torch> I don't think installing flash on easyubuntu worked
[02:26] <ScheissNUssen> well
[02:26] <torch> :/
[02:26] <ScheissNUssen> it isnt even the game that i want to access
[02:26] <blabit> mplayer is hanging up at 99%, anyone have any idea what might be causing it?
[02:26] <jramsey> Unio, dude ... bad choice
[02:26] <Unio> :/ why?
[02:26] <ScheissNUssen> I want to open up xmame-x to configure things
[02:26] <_azrael> marcus___: No sorry, I misinterpreted, I thought you were pluggingin a usb key, sorry.
[02:26] <JamieBE> However ScheissNUssen, you can give it a go. You should see "Wine Windows Emulator" within the Add/Remove Applications repository
[02:26] <deviloffirewalls> _azrael: if it helps the disk folder is under tmp, by a name of disks-conf-sda1 but it will not open, saying that i dont have the permissions
[02:26] <TheGame> hey
[02:26] <ScheissNUssen> ok
[02:26] <TheGame> do i need gnome-volume-manager and gnome-power-manager to be on startup
[02:26] <abner> theCore: Are your PMs blocked?
[02:26] <theCore> abner: maybe there are blocked by my router's firewall
[02:27] <jramsey> Unio, because the Ub devs went to great lengths to make sure rm -rf /* was harder to do for those who shouldn't be doing root stuff so root is not really supported
[02:27] <ScheissNUssen> Jamie
[02:27] <theCore> s/there/they/
[02:27] <torch> Argh!
[02:27] <ScheissNUssen> i installed wine
[02:27] <theCore> abner: just a sec
[02:27] <ScheissNUssen> how do i run it?
[02:27] <Unio> jramsey: i'm lost heh
[02:27] <blabit> can anyone help me with mplayer?
[02:27] <abner> k
[02:27] <TheGame> do i need those?/
[02:27] <torch> "could not apply changes! fix broken packages first"
[02:27] <_azrael> deviloffirewalls: disk folder should be tmpdir, that's where we just mounted it, and what the heck is "disks-conf-sda1"?
[02:27] <ScheissNUssen> it doesnt show up anywhere
[02:27] <abner> I got your PM
[02:27] <mcphail> Unio: the one user who always exists is root - with UID 0. Having "root" as your username is the worst choice possible.
[02:27] <jramsey> Unio, reinstall Ub and specify a different username (like Unio) and do not use root
[02:27] <torch> how does one fix broken packages?
[02:27] <JamieBE> ScheissNUssen - Also, for your info, there is a Linux resident emulator called kxmame - Perhaps this might be of more use to you?
[02:27] <Unio> ok, brb (ubuntu is on another partition)
[02:28] <ScheissNUssen> hmm
[02:28] <theCore> abner: try theCore_
[02:28] <ScheissNUssen> ok
[02:28] <marcus___> _azrael: thanks for trying :)
[02:28] <jramsey> Unio, maybe there's a backdoor into root acct but i dont know it
[02:28] <deviloffirewalls> _azrael: it is not under there and it is what it says when i click on the drive under Computer
[02:28] <jramsey> mcphail, probably should be disallowed
[02:28] <dody> Hey does anyone know how to associate a protocol to a program in firefox?
[02:28] <_azrael> marcus___: Instead, now that I know it's a network card, run: sudo iwconfig and see if it shows up
[02:28] <JamieBE> ScheissNUssen - I think to use WinE for the first time you need to go to Terminal and type 'winecfg' (Without the ''s)
[02:28] <abner> theCore: sent one
[02:28] <blabit> does anyone know why mplayer would hang at 99%, and not play the media file?
[02:28] <deviloffirewalls> _azrael: You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-sda1".
[02:28] <_azrael> deviloffirewalls: Open up your home directory.
[02:28] <abner> did you get it?
[02:29] <deviloffirewalls> yep
[02:29] <_azrael> deviloffirewalls: Then open up the directory labled tmpdir
[02:29] <deviloffirewalls> yep, nothing in there
[02:29] <marcus___> _azrael: no but for some reason there is an ath0 entry
[02:29] <_azrael> deviloffirewalls: The mount command I gave you had no errors, but there's nothing in there?
[02:29] <dravas> Can you add a Trash Can to the desktop?
[02:29] <theCore_> abner: it didn't worked ... theCore^ ?
[02:29] <JamieBE> ScheissNUssen - I am off to bed now. If you get stuck, do a search in the Add/Remove Apps section on "Emulator" - There are loads of Gnome/KDE emulators for various consoles. Good night, and be lucky! ;)
[02:30] <deviloffirewalls> nup
[02:30] <_azrael> marcus___: Sorry then, I guess I don't know.
[02:30] <mcphail> dravas: i think you can, from "gconf-editor"
[02:30] <abner> theCore: Get one?
[02:30] <marcus___> what is an ath0?
[02:30] <blabit> Azrael, do you mind helping me for a second?
[02:30] <_azrael> deviloffirewalls: If there were really no errors, there should be at least something in there.
[02:30] <_azrael> blabit: Sure.
[02:30] <mistform> anyone play Planeshift?
[02:30] <torch> argh!
[02:30] <torch> this place is going too fast
[02:31] <mistform> you think it's too fast?
[02:31] <blabit>  Azrael: I am trying to view a video file using mplayer, it hangs at 99%, is there anything I can do to fix this, it happens quite often.
[02:31] <mistform> try ##linux
[02:31] <_azrael> marcus___: Usually, ath0 is a modem.
[02:31] <abner> theCore: You're not responding. Join #omghaelp
[02:31] <dody> Can anyone help me to get Firefox to open irc and skype protocols auto maticaly?
[02:31] <gizban> I want to be able to get video-in to work with my ATI AllInWoner 9600 card.  I tried GATOS, but that didn't work. The forums suggested tvtime and xawtv. But for those to work, I need /dev/video0. When I run tvtime, it says it can't find /dev/video0 (which doesn't exist). When I run xawtv, the screen goes black and I need to reboot.  When I run v4l-conf, the screen goes black and I need to reboot.  Does anyone know how to create /dev/video0?
[02:31] <deviloffirewalls> _azrael: no there is nothing in there
[02:31] <_azrael> blabit: Best solution I've found to that is to use a custom compiled mplayer from svn.
[02:32] <marcus___> _azrael: this one looks like a wireless it says iee 802.11g
[02:32] <blabit> azrael, how do i use that? or get it for that matter?
[02:32] <abner> theCore: ...? Not responding to PMs. Join #omghaelp ?
[02:32] <Mnabil> is there's a text based install , beside  the crapy damn gui installer , i got bored of this
[02:32] <_azrael> marcus___: Then it could be your card, do you know the ssid/essid of your network?
[02:32] <Bogaurd> I'm running badger, with lighttpd. Around 6:27 every morning, lighttpd seems to restart itself for some reason, which is roughly when cron.daily runs, but i cant find anything in there thats restarting it =\
[02:32] <whitt> does anyone here use mepis?
[02:32] <_azrael> blabit: One sec while I find you the svn url.
[02:33] <blabit> thanks
[02:33] <deviloffirewalls> _azrael: there is definetely nothing in the folder
[02:33] <whitt> Bogaurd, whats up do you know anything about php-fusion or webcams lol
[02:33] <_azrael> deviloffirewalls: Sorry, that's how I mount windows drives. Apparently it's not working for you for some reason. I'm inclined to say you punched the command in wrong, but that may not be the case. I can't be of any further help.
[02:33] <mistform> dody: as soon as someone solves your problems, tell me ;)
[02:33] <mistform> dody: I wish I knew a way to change Xchat to handle ir:// links
[02:34] <mistform> anyone know how to get Planeshift for Ubuntu/
[02:34] <Chadley> would anyone be gracious enough to point me in the direction of a floppy or disc bootloader for the LAMP server version?
[02:34] <looktj> i want xfire
[02:34] <_azrael> blabit: OK first, if you have a folder you keep source in, cd to it, if you don't, mkdir one.
[02:35] <blabit> ok
[02:35] <whitt> does anybody use php-fusion
[02:35] <_azrael> blabit: svn co svn://svn.mplayerhq.hu/mplayer/trunk
[02:36] <_azrael> blabit: cd mplayer
[02:36] <blabit> Azrael: paste that in terminal?
[02:37] <_azrael> blabit: Yup. Those two commands are OK to paste, no replacements needed.
[02:37] <marc_> chadley smart boot manager is what you want
[02:38] <blabit> Azrael:, terminal is not accepting those lines.
[02:38] <marc_> chadley: http://slackware.at/data/slackware-current/rootdisks/sbootmgr.dsk
[02:38] <_azrael> blabit: sudo apt-get install subversion
[02:38] <_azrael> blabit: You probably just don't have svn installed, so do that first.
[02:39] <marc_> chadley download that then do dd if=sbootmger.dsk of=\dev\fd0 &you will have the last boot disk you ever need
[02:40] <dody> Can anyone help me to get Firefox to open irc and skype protocols auto maticaly?
[02:40] <Petrus> i uninstalled ubuntu today and reinstalled windows, but now my secondary harddrive show up in diskmanagement as a 32gb raw partition and 200gb unallocated data. now, i havent touched that harddrive.
[02:40] <Petrus> i have never had any OS on that drive
[02:41] <Petrus> none of the partitions show up in my computer, but in diskmanager it does
[02:41] <Petrus> i really need the data back
[02:42] <blabit> Azrael: after i run all that, anything else?
[02:42] <_azrael> yup
[02:42] <Chadley> marc_: thanks
[02:42] <dody> The hell with it.
[02:42] <blabit> Azrael, what next?
[02:42] <_azrael> blabit: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:42] <gdb> Does anyone know where update-notifier reads that a system restart is required?  It's telling me that I need to reboot (and I don't) and I'd like to manually clear it without rebooting.  Any ideas?
[02:43] <CrazyDoode> blah.. i just installed a atix1300 and even though it appears to be recognized, i cant get it to accellerate.
[02:44] <CrazyDoode> even the ati control panel sees it, but .. alas, no fglx_gears
[02:44] <_azrael> blabit: There's still more, so tell me when you're ready for it.
[02:44] <blabit> k
[02:45] <ubuntu> hi at all
[02:45] <nikosapi> Is there a way to tell the kernel exactly how much ram is in my system? I have 192MB but ubuntu only reports 128 and slackware reports 256.
[02:45] <IncidenT> hall
[02:45] <IncidenT> hallo
[02:45] <blabit> Azrael: ready for the next command
[02:45] <ubunew> okay
[02:46] <ubunew> i am using Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:46] <ubunew>  as live cd in version 6.06 TS
[02:46] <ubunew> but i cant find an installer
[02:46] <ubunew> what do i do to get it to my hdd ?
[02:46] <_azrael> blabit: ./configure --enable-gui
[02:46] <_azrael> blabit: make
[02:46] <IncidenT> i have tried installing ubuntu or even running it live but when i press start/install it says loading drivers then crashes my laptop at "loading main root file system"
[02:46] <_azrael> blabit: sudo make install
[02:46] <_azrael> blabit: Then ask me again, you also have to copy a few skin files.
[02:46] <trygg_> ubunew: and there is no icon on the desktop?
[02:47] <ubunew> right
[02:47] <ubunew> no icon on the desktop
[02:47] <ubunew> is there a install script i can run thru conssole?
[02:47] <blabit> Azrael: it gave me this message "make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop."
[02:47] <_azrael> blabit: You are still in the mplayer source directory, right?
[02:47] <ubunew> console*
[02:48] <blabit> um.....i am not sure, how do I command line to that/
[02:48] <pluma> How do I change the group ownership of a directory recursively, i.e. for all sub-directories and files?
[02:48] <IncidenT> anyone?
[02:48] <_azrael> blabit: pwd, tell me the output
[02:49] <nikosapi> pluma: chmod -R
[02:49] <blabit> azrael: /home/brady/trunk
[02:49] <jramsey> pluma, man chown and check the -R switch
[02:49] <mopflite> pluma: chgrp -R directory
[02:49] <pluma> jramsey: ta
[02:49] <heras> Petrus: You could try this -> http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html
[02:49] <_azrael> blabit: ls Makefile
[02:49] <mopflite> jramsey: chown doesn't change group ownership, chgrp does
[02:49] <blabit> Azrael: done....next?
[02:50] <blabit> ls
[02:50] <_azrael> blabit: Did it give no output?
[02:50] <jramsey> mopflite, it does for me
[02:50] <_azrael> Then you're not in the right place.
[02:50] <blabit> none
[02:50] <_azrael> blabit: Go to the spot that you downloaded the source to.
[02:51] <blabit> Azrael, I am not sure where, what is the normal default?
[02:51] <_azrael> blabit: Did ./configure end with an error?
[02:51] <mopflite> IncidenT: lots of people have reported in the ubuntu forums that, whilst the live cd will work on their system, attempts to install from it fail whereas installation using the alternate cd works ok - so it may be worth trying downloading and trying the alternate cd
[02:51] <blabit> lemme try it again
[02:52] <_azrael> blabit: remember to do --enable-gui btw, or it won't work.
[02:52] <nikosapi> the alternate cd always works, I always have trouble with the live cd. Mind you, I normaly an installing on old hardware...
[02:52] <blabit> Azrael, it did fail....says to check the log.
[02:53] <_azrael> blabit: Do you know how to use a pastebin?
[02:53] <blabit> yeah, just don't recall the address for it
[02:53] <_azrael> !paste >blabit
[02:53] <_azrael> Use that to post the log to me, I'll read it and tell you what needs fixing.
[02:54] <rbond> Hello has anyone ever heard of software with ALSA output being at a 100% cpu usage
[02:54] <blabit> ok
[02:54] <blabit> I know this is a pain, but where can I find the log?
[02:54] <raknam> where can i get edgy eft?
[02:55] <rbond> For some reason videos like to be slow, and the mp3s skip while multitasking
[02:55] <ozzy> need help with intel 82801DB audio
[02:55] <DanaG> Oh, new question from me:  I want the system to run tcsd as root at boot, after tpm_tis has been modprobed.
[02:55] <jimmygoon> Has anyone gotten FEAR to run in wine/cedega?
[02:55] <DanaG> Where can I put this?
[02:55] <DanaG> !WineCVS
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about WineCVS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <DanaG> !cvscedega
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cvscedega - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <_azrael> DanaG Look at the local bootscript
[02:56] <ozzy> snd_intel8x0m is in blacklist
[02:56] <DanaG> dang, cedega doesn't compile.
[02:56] <ozzy> modprobe intel8x0m runs good
[02:56] <blabit> Azrael, where can I find that log?
[02:56] <ozzy> but any sound in X
[02:56] <DanaG> er, cvscedega.
[02:56] <ozzy> doesnt sound
[02:56] <_azrael> DanaG: Specifically, the file /etc/rc.d/rc.local
[02:57] <SillyZ> btw someone might wanna tell the folks over at kubuntu, theres no reiserfs option in the partitioning setup, you can create it manually via mkfs.reiserfs /dev/hda#   but in the dropdown list theres no option for it
[02:58] <DanaG> Oh, RC.d -- I was looking at INIT.d (caps for emphasis, I know it's case sensitive)
[02:58] <jimmygoon> LOL. I know what cedega is and I know I can compile it from source if I want to use it, but I just was wondering if anyone has used/played FEAR with it yet?
[02:58] <_azrael> rc.d is going to be your best bet for bootscripts. init.d is good for controlling stuff that's up and running.
[02:59] <_azrael> s/that's/once the system's/
[02:59] <DanaG> I can't even get it to compile.
[02:59] <Mportnoy> HEllo anyone can tell how to force the refresh rate of an Nvidia 6600 pci express and dual widescreen one crt on the other dfp ? 1440x900@60
[02:59] <DanaG> Oh, I put it in rc.local.
[02:59] <_azrael> DanaG: Can't get what to compile?
[02:59] <alevin> hi.  my question is, if i want to change the resolution on my laptop to 1024, and the screen resolution app only displays choicse of 640x or 800x, how do i specify a higher option? I already tried editing the key in gconf
[02:59] <DanaG> Gaaaah, I really need to clean my LCD.
[02:59] <DanaG> _azrael: CVSCedega.
[02:59] <alevin> similar to Mportnoy's q i guess
[03:00] <DanaG> alevin: It's an xorg issue, not a gnome issue.
[03:00] <_azrael> DanaG: Why not just use binary cedega? (I wasn't aware that the cvs held any truly new compatability features)
[03:00] <Mportnoy> alevin: more and less, the prob is that I can not force the video to use the Refresh I want and I put everything like the conf
[03:00] <DanaG> I don't have any way of buying stuff online at the moment.
[03:00] <alevin> the gnome app doesnt display the list in xorg.conf, can it still be an xorg issue with the problem somewhere else
[03:01] <alevin> yes i cant force it to a reoslution i want
[03:01] <FirstStrike> well, lets see how nero linux does in burning this
[03:01] <alevin> ghmm
[03:01] <ozzy> cde
[03:01] <alevin> alright
[03:01] <jimmygoon> _azrael - the only way to get those is to buy the prepackaged ones from cedega's owner
[03:02] <Mportnoy> at 1440x900 resolutions it does not detect it like a wide screen monitor 1440x900  H:56 V:60
[03:02] <_azrael> jimmygoon: Ah, see, I was under the assumption that one needed a license for the cvs, and so also thought that she had one.
[03:02] <Petrus> what is the root password in ubuntu 6.06 live?
[03:02] <alevin> there is no root, petrus, only root permissions
[03:02] <alevin> it's the same pw as the user pw
[03:02] <alevin> try sudo
[03:03] <alevin> am i right, ubuntu people?
[03:03] <ozzy1717> need help with sound card
[03:03] <madewokherd> by default, it doesn't give you the root password, but you can set it
[03:03] <madewokherd> normally you just use sudo, which expects the user password
[03:03] <Fensta> hey guys.. what is the default path of firefox?
[03:04] <ozzy1717> the module snd_intel8x0m is in my blacklist
[03:04] <ozzy1717> could it be the problem
[03:04] <ozzy1717> i can play any sound
[03:05] <SillyZ> ok just compiled and installed crossover, how do i launch it ?
[03:05] <Chavira> Fensta -  /usr/bin/firefox
[03:05] <Fensta> thx Chavira
[03:05] <pluma> is GIJ considerably slower than Sun's Java VM or is it just me?
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> pluma, :) i belive its not as optmozaed
[03:07] <tyler_d> cannot connect to trackers using azureus
[03:07] <pluma> Somehow Eclipse feels unusually slow.
[03:07] <tyler_d> ??
[03:08] <Mportnoy> any guide to have the GNOME with good fonts like windows?
[03:08] <pluma> tyler_d: Please rephrase that as a question.
[03:08] <virogenesis> Hi
[03:08] <SillyZ> I will agree, the font rendering seems to be much better in kubuntu than gubuntu
[03:08] <virogenesis> virogenesis@midnight:~$ gqcam
[03:08] <virogenesis> /dev/video: Device or resource busy
[03:08] <virogenesis>  <--- how can i get around this?
[03:08] <SillyZ> more cleartype'ish
[03:08] <tyler_d> downloading torrents, using azureus will not connect me to peers, anyone have a suggestion?
[03:09] <exxon> how can i copy a folder into the /usr/share/icons folder?
[03:09] <eyequeue> what is gubuntu?
[03:09] <SillyZ> gnome-ubuntu
[03:09] <exxon> tlyer, do you have your nat settings correct?
[03:09] <SillyZ> sorry
[03:09] <eyequeue> SillyZ, that is known as ubuntu
[03:09] <tyler_d> exxon: how could I check?
[03:10] <SillyZ> aye i know i just called it that for sake of reference
[03:10] <exxon> does it say that nat is okay on the bottom bar?
[03:10] <tyler_d> exxon: nat shows up as ok in azureus
[03:10] <marcus__> can i recieve some assistance setting up either my usb wireless or my atheros wifi card please?
[03:10] <tyler_d> exxon: yes
[03:10] <exxon> ah, well, hm
[03:10] <exxon> just a sec
[03:10] <_azrael> tyler_d: Have you trusted a known active torrent?
[03:10] <tyler_d> exxon: ok
[03:10] <_azrael> tyler_d: It could just be a dead torrent.
[03:10] <tyler_d> azrael: yes I have
[03:10] <tyler_d> azrael: I have tried 4 of them
[03:10] <tyler_d> azrael: all with the same results
[03:11] <ozzy1717> how can i configure my sound card in ubuntu?
[03:11] <ozzy1717> i cant play any cound
[03:11] <rollses> anyone have any ideas for a good text editor for programming?
[03:11] <Chavira> Mportnoy - sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[03:11] <LogicalDash> I installed some stuff from the Debian testing repository, and now I have two broken packages--libc6 and libc6-i686--that I can't seem to do anything to without uninstalling a ton of essential stuff. Am I hosed?
[03:11] <verbose> tyler_d: some isps are blocking ports 6881-6889 to stop bt
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> rollses,  vi and emacs are time tested classics. :)
[03:12] <_azrael> rollses: I use vim :)
[03:12] <verbose> rollses: i use vim
[03:12] <rollses> i need one with a graphical ui if posible
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> rollses,  gvim and 'cream'
[03:12] <deltab> Mportnoy: to change the way fonts are rendered, use System/Preferences/Font
[03:12] <_azrael> rollses: gvim exists.
[03:12] <tyler_d> verbose: I will try and change that
[03:12] <rollses> hmmm k thanks
[03:12] <pluma> Okay, now I'm seriously miffed.
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> once you learn vi - you realize that a 'graphical ui' is useless. :P and slows you down
[03:13] <corndog_> rollses: which language(s)?
[03:13] <rollses> i want something that can highlight syntax
[03:13] <rollses> using it for html atm
[03:13] <_azrael> Plus, the ability to run vim in a screen session and ssh in from elsewhere? Perfect.
[03:13] <corndog_> try screem
[03:13] <deltab> vim has good syntax highlighting
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> most all the editros can do that. :P
[03:13] <regeya> meh.
[03:13] <pluma> Does anybody know why (WHY GOD WHY?) Firefox still times out on look-ups after I have disabled IPv6 and enabled the "disable IPv6" setting in Firefox? Not only is Wikipedia thus unreachable, but so is Sun's download server.
[03:14] <corndog_> is there a way to auto center windows on one display when using dual monitors?
[03:14] <exxon> how can i copy files into the usr/share/icons directory
[03:14] <exxon> ?
[03:14] <_azrael> pluma: While not a permanent fix, here's a simple workaround while you find someone who knows how to fix it:
[03:14] <_azrael> pluma: ping en.wikipedia.org (for example)
[03:15] <_azrael> pluma: an IP address will come up. Use that in firefox instead.
[03:15] <hyperpenguin> Hi there! I'm having a bit of a problem with python-vte.
[03:15] <bruenig> hyperpenguin, what is the problem
[03:16] <benx213> pluma check your dns
[03:16] <hyperpenguin> When I try to run synaptic, I get /usr/sbin/synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:16] <Chavira> exxon - sudo cp -r "archive" /usr/share/icons/
[03:16] <hyperpenguin> And python-vte has ubuntu-desktop as a dependency.
[03:16] <pluma> benx213: nice idea, next idea please. It's not the DNS settings. The same DNS settings (local router's IP) work on my Windows box.
[03:16] <pluma> benx213: Also, it's only Firefox.
[03:16] <Overand> Is there a way to 'switch' eth0 and eth1 on a two-network-card system?
[03:16] <bruenig> hyperpenguin, don't worry about ubuntu-desktop it is just a meta package it means nothing
[03:17] <hyperpenguin> Okay, thanks. I was just wondering
[03:17] <BlueEagle> hyperpenguin: You'll need to synlink libvte.so.4 to the existing libvte.
[03:17] <pluma> _azrael: I don't really care much about Wikipedia being down for me. I just care about the lack of comfort in having to work around that problem by manually resolving URLs.
[03:17] <pluma> Okay. Apparently wget has the same trouble with the download server, so that one might just be down.
[03:18] <Flamekebab> A quick couple of questions for you guys, regarding XFCE
[03:18] <Flamekebab> if anyone is able to help
[03:18] <deltab> Overand: it used to be possible to attach a device name to a MAC address
[03:18] <_azrael> pluma: OK, I just thought it might have been something where you needed to get to a few sites short term for a fix.
[03:18] <bruenig> !anyone > Flamekebab
[03:18] <ssdd534> hi i installed the nvidia-glx driver but when ever i try to start/restart x it locks up (the whole system) what may be the root of this?
[03:18] <tyler_d> nat status is now unknown after changing the settings and firewall?
[03:18] <rollses> i want something like programmers note pad in windows :/
[03:19] <BlueEagle> flamekebab: #Xubuntu might be more competent but It's generally a good idea to ask the actual question.
[03:19] <Flamekebab> bruenig, to see if I get any attention or whether it's too busy in here and I should come back later
[03:19] <BlueEagle> !anyone > blueeagle
[03:19] <bruenig> blueeagle isn't that a cool factoid
[03:19] <BlueEagle> bruenig: it is. :)
[03:19] <Flamekebab> I've got suspend working on a laptop, but under XFCE I can't find power management tools like gnome-power-management
[03:20] <exxon> thanks chariva! :)
[03:20] <hyperpenguin> Okay. EXTREMELY dumb question.
[03:20] <exxon> oops, chavira is what i meant
[03:20] <hyperpenguin> Where exactly IS libvte.so.4, and where's the actual library?
[03:20] <jramsey> hyperpenguin, penguins aren't permitted to ask dumb questions ;)
[03:21] <hyperpenguin> Heh, agreed
[03:21] <verbose> hyperpenguin: in /usr/lib
[03:21] <dr_willis_> hyperpenguin,  kicate libvte
[03:21] <dr_willis_> locate libvte
[03:21] <dr_willis_> and the fix is to remove/reinstall the libvte-common
[03:21] <hyperpenguin> Heh, thanks for the BARRAGE of answers.
[03:21] <hyperpenguin> :D
[03:21] <corevette> is there a full explanation on how to uninstall ubuntu !and! grub?
[03:21] <ssdd534> hi i installed the nvidia-glx driver but when ever i try to start/restart x it locks up (the whole system) what may be the root of this?
[03:22] <jman8888> I hate that i have to bug you folks so many times daily. But i didnt have sound working in firefoxso i did what ubuntuforums said. And now firefox crashes....
[03:22] <bruenig> hyperpenguin, in the terminal you can generally do "whereis whatever" it will usually find it for instance "whereis libvte.so.4" will give you /usr/lib/libvte.so.4
[03:22] <dr_willis_> corevette,  refdisk and format the partions, use the windows xp boot cd and run 'fixmbr'
[03:22] <BlueEagle> flamekebab: You could install gnome-power-management but I am not sure that it will work on xfce. It's worth a shot tho.
[03:22] <ozzy1717> you can unistall grub doing a fixboot throght a widows 2000 installation CD
[03:22] <ozzy1717> coverette
[03:22] <verbose> bruenig: only if /usr/lib is in your $PATH ...which it typically isn't
[03:23] <bruenig> tis in mine
[03:23] <verbose> bruenig: why?
[03:23] <corevette> ozzy1717 ok thanks
[03:23] <Flamekebab> I've tried, but it seems to not want to play ball
[03:23] <bruenig> why not
[03:23] <Chrono86> I really need somebody's help...I can't seem to get the nvidia drivers to install correctly on my AMD64 system no matter which method I try...
[03:23] <BlueEagle> hyperpenguin: you'll find libvte.so.9.something in /usr/lib/
[03:23] <ozzy1717> corevette: fixboot then fixmbr then exit
[03:23] <hyperpenguin> Yeah, I did
[03:23] <hyperpenguin> libvte.so: /usr/lib/libvte.so.9
[03:23] <BlueEagle> hyperpenguin: You'll need to symlink that file to libvte.so.4 (man ln)
[03:23] <hyperpenguin> Okay, thanks
[03:24] <pluma> Oh, fun. Sun linked me to the i586 version of the JDK when there already was a more relevant amd64 version available.
[03:25] <rbond> Does anyone have any input on how I can have a very high cpu usage with ALSA but not OSS
[03:25] <corevette> so i........reformat the disk, reformat partitions, use the windows boot cd, and type: fixboot , then fixmbr, then exit to uninstall it from a dual boot
[03:25] <SillyZ> if your removing linux corevette yes
[03:26] <tyler_d> still after changing the port to 31950, and changing the firewall.... still the same result... not connecting to peers :(
[03:26] <SillyZ> if you have the recovery console for win2k/xp installed
[03:26] <tyler_d> any help out there?
[03:26] <corevette> dont' worry ugys....i'm just putting it on a differnet computer
[03:26] <dr_willis> corevette,  re FDISK the disk and change the partitions to somthing normal and then format them under windows. (after fixing the mbr)
[03:26] <dr_willis> or use gparted/parted/qtparted/cfdisk
[03:26] <dr_willis> :)
[03:26] <corevette> dr_willis i'm very basic....can't i just go undermy computer and do format it there?
[03:27] <ozzy1717> corevette: all done
[03:27] <dr_willis> corevette,  it must be fdisked to convert the partitons to  wondows paritoons.. or just delete the partitions and let windows repartition the drive
[03:27] <keithhhh> hey was the keyboard shortcut function taken out of ubuntu 6.06??
[03:28] <hyperpenguin> Woot! Synaptic lives!
[03:28] <hyperpenguin> Thanks for the help.
[03:28] <Chrono86> argh nvidia and amd64 are driving me crazy
[03:28] <bruenig> keithhh, not certain what you mean but my quick answer is no
[03:28] <keithhhh> Hey was the keyboard shortcut function taken out of ubuntu 6.06 activating the start menu??
[03:28] <stubbe> hello
[03:28] <stubbe> I got this problem
[03:28] <stubbe> I broke ubuntu
[03:28] <bruenig> start menu?
[03:28] <keithhhh> bruenig: ya
[03:29] <bruenig> what is the start menu
[03:29] <keithhhh> bruenig: you know in windows you hit the windows key
[03:29] <Krankily> Greets all
[03:29] <bruenig> oh, you want the windows key to do what when you hit it
[03:29] <bruenig> ?
[03:29] <Chrono86> can anyone who got nvidia and amd64 to play nice point me somewhere..the binarydriverhowto doesn't seem to do anything for my system
[03:29] <keithhhh> bruenig: activate the ubuntu menu
[03:29] <stubbe> hello
[03:29] <dr_willis> Chrono86,  using 64bit disrto?
[03:29] <stubbe> can anyone help me plz?
[03:29] <Chrono86> yes
[03:30] <stubbe> pm?
[03:30] <borelia> anyone run enemy territory ?  i got some issues
[03:30] <bruenig> My left windows key is a shortcut to the terminal and my right windows key is a shortcut for swiftfox
[03:30] <dr_willis> Chrono86,  i knew better :) lol..
[03:30] <Chrono86> haha
[03:30] <keithhhh> dr_willis: ya but in 5.10 you could program it
[03:30] <dr_willis> Chrono86,  i cant recall ever getting it working either.
[03:30] <DShepherd> !anyone
[03:30] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:30] <TheGame> ok
[03:30] <dr_willis> keithhhh,  you mean under GNOME in 5.10
[03:30] <Viper550> Wanna see the theme I made for Edgy?
[03:30] <Viper550> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Tropic
[03:30] <Chrono86> dr willis, every method I've tried has either done nothing or totally broke X lol
[03:30] <bruenig> !offtopic > Viper550
[03:30] <keithhhh> dr_willis: maybe
[03:31] <bruenig> too much orange. I will go blind
[03:31] <stubbe> I was playing with my partition
[03:31] <keithhhh> dr_willis: in ubuntu 5.10 I set the windows key to activate the start bar
[03:32] <DShepherd> bruenig: yup.. way too much orange for me
[03:32] <mistform> how do I use a .bin file?
[03:32] <stubbe> my partition scheme is swap, /boot /home then/
[03:32] <mistform> from the command line?
[03:32] <Mportnoy> How can I enable the Windows key on ubuntu Dapper ?
[03:32] <dr_willis> I would guess ya check the gnome shortcut control-panel item
[03:33] <bruenig> you may have to *gasp* have to click on it
[03:33] <Overand> deltab: found it, it's /etc/iftab =] 
[03:33] <mistform> how do I use a .bin file?  it's a game I want to play
[03:33] <keithhhh> Mportnoy: ok what do Ubuntu people call the menu that has Applications - Places - System  (on the top of the screen by default)
[03:33] <mistform> GUI panel?
[03:33] <dr_willis> mistform,  what kind of game?
[03:33] <bruenig> that is called menu bar
[03:33] <deltab> Overand: ah, thanks
[03:34] <mistform> dr_willis Planeshift
[03:34] <dr_willis> mistform,  since .bin tells us NOTHING.
[03:34] <Chrono86> in kde it's called the kicker...in gnome the menu bar?
[03:34] <dr_willis> mistform,  i would guess ya run t with sh whatever.bin
[03:34] <keithhhh> bruenig: ok the menu bar in windows is called the start bar
[03:34] <deltab> Overand: I've seen a GUI for them, but can't find it now
[03:34] <stubbe> plz2 anyone can help me?
[03:34] <Overand> stubbe: what's your question?
[03:34] <stubbe> anyone for pm?
[03:34] <keithhhh> bruenig: so what I want to do is click on the windows key to activate the menu bar
[03:34] <bruenig> is it called that. I always knew it said start and I never understood why. I didn't know it had a name other than start menu
[03:35] <keithhhh> bruenig: ok start menu
[03:35] <_azrael> !anyone >stubbe
[03:35] <keithhhh> bruenig: do you know how to make a short cut key activate the start menu?
[03:36] <bruenig> keithhhh, go to system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts. The entry that says show panel menu is the one you want
[03:36] <stubbe> okay I screwed up my partition
[03:36] <mistform> dr_willis it says Cannot Execute Bin File
[03:36] <stubbe> I reinstall ubuntu in a new partition
[03:36] <stubbe> I edit menu.lst
[03:36] <stubbe> to refer the old ubuntu partition
[03:36] <Chrono86> damn amd64 and nvidia
[03:36] <stubbe> then I remove the new ubuntu partition
[03:37] <stubbe> I get to boot into the old ubuntu
[03:37] <keithhhh> bruenig: ok thanks got it
[03:37] <pluma> mistform: make sure its permissions are set in a way that allows you to execute it.
[03:37] <stubbe> but when I update the kernel
[03:37] <mistform> the page says "install the package as per your platform's requirements."
[03:37] <stubbe> It still looking for the new ubuntu partition
[03:37] <mistform> I downloaded the .bin file directly from the site
[03:37] <keithhhh> bruenig: I couldnt figure it out  ;)
[03:37] <stubbe> how to fix this?
[03:37] <bruenig> yeah I didn't know it did that until I went in there and looked
[03:37] <mistform> sudo doesn't do any good
[03:37] <verbose> mistform: what does file blah.bin say?
[03:38] <stubbe> so that when I install any new kernel it'll refer the old partition?
[03:38] <pluma> mistform: right-click on the .bin, set the executable flag for the owner and then try again
[03:38] <deltab> stubbe: what do you mean by "looking for the new partition"?
[03:38] <pluma> I just downloaded a .bin installer via Firefox and it wasn't set to be executable by me =P
[03:38] <stubbe> the old ubuntu is sda9, the new ubuntu is sda10
[03:38] <deltab> stubbe: what does the computer say?
[03:38] <stubbe> I removed the sda10 partition
[03:38] <p47> ACTION hey I hoope someone can help me, puff I have some problems with my keyboard, I have a Dell mutimedia keyboard, and almost all work's fine, but The volume control dosn't works for me... I have been reading one howto about this tutorial, but that tutorial is in french, and I don't know french, after that I found one tutorial in chinese also I don't understand chiniese, but I have contacted the person who wrote that tutorial and he answerme in english but I 
[03:39] <stubbe> the bootup hangs "searching for root partition"
[03:39] <stubbe> when I open up grub's menu.lst
[03:39] <stubbe> it still refer to the sda10 partition
[03:39] <mistform> pluma verboseI need to install it somehow....
[03:39] <uber_mort> Hi all!  I've written a python configuration utility to help new users connect to my campus network.  I'd like them to just be able to double click on it and have it open, but it appears as though not all window managers will do that.  Gnome asks to run or view, but KDE just pops it in to a text editor.  Any suggestions for making it just work?
[03:39] <stubbe> that is after I install a new kernel from sda9
[03:39] <verbose> mistform: did you do file <nameOfBinFile> ?
[03:39] <mistform> sry, I am a n00b
[03:39] <stubbe> I created sda10 just to get the /boot partition back
[03:40] <deltab> p47: those buttons don't have standard key codes to send, so support for them is variable
[03:40] <method|>  why does ubuntu recognize my fat32 partition as having only 1 gig of free space when it has like 11 gigs of free space?
[03:40] <method|> suse does the same
[03:40] <mistform> /home/mist/Desktop/PlaneShift_CBV0.3.015b.bin: /home/mist/Desktop/PlaneShift_CBV 0.3.015b.bin: cannot execute binary file
[03:40] <verbose> method|: are you sure?
[03:41] <stubbe> what else should I change so everytime I install/update kernel the menu.lst don't refer to sda10 again?
[03:41] <uber_mort> mistform have you tried to chmod +x /home/mist/Desktop/PlaneShift_CBC 0.3...
[03:41] <mistform> no
[03:41] <verbose> mistform: ok...at the command prompt, type `file /home/mist/Desktop/PlaneShift_CBV`
[03:41] <uber_mort> mistform: That should do it
[03:41] <p47> deltab: so what sould I do ? what can you suggest me ?
[03:41] <verbose> mistform: ok...at the command prompt, type `file /home/mist/Desktop/PlaneShift_CBV\ 0.3.015b.bin`
[03:41] <verbose> mistform: sorry, type the latter, not the former
[03:42] <method|> verbose: yeah im sure
[03:43] <stubbe> nobody?
[03:43] <bruenig> stubbe, what
[03:43] <deltab> p47: run xev and see if pressing the keys causes keycodes
[03:44] <mistform> mist@mist-laptop:~$ file /home/mist/Desktop/PlaneShift_CBV0.3.015b.bin
[03:44] <mistform> /home/mist/Desktop/PlaneShift_CBV0.3.015b.bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, statically linked, corrupted section header size
[03:44] <p47> deltab: no whit xev I got anything
[03:44] <pluma> Okay... what the? I can't believe the manual that came with my copy of Sun JDK is in flippin' Japanese.
[03:45] <deltab> p47: nothing, you mean?
[03:45] <iratsu> does anyone ehre own a system76 latop?
[03:45] <stubbe> also after I edited menu.lst to refer to sda9 each time it boots it's throws an error said that /dev/sda9 is mounted
[03:45] <verbose> mistform: ok, i'm not sure about the corrupted section header size, i'd try re-downloading it though unless the site has a checksum for the file that you could compare against yours
[03:46] <TheGame> any1 here good with 915resolution
[03:46] <p47> deltab: so can't I do anything ?
[03:46] <deltab> stubbe: is it in /etc/fstab ?
[03:46] <stubbe> yes
[03:46] <stubbe> may i speak with you in pm?
[03:47] <verbose> before you try that though, you might try this: `cd ~/Desktop && chmod +x ~/Desktop/*.bin && sh ~/Desktop/PlaneShift....the rest of the filename`
[03:47] <deltab> p47: if the keys aren't producing keycodes, X programs can't do anything with them
[03:47] <pluma> Not only is *my* copy Japanese, but Sun's default for this version seems to be Japanese. Last time I checked they were an American company. Guess they outsourced.
[03:47] <deltab> p47: you'll need to run a program that tells the keyboard to enable those keys
[03:48] <p47> deltab: humm :( ok ! so I'm thankful for your atention !
[03:48] <madsaientist> I have a question, what happens when you remove ubuntu desktop?
[03:48] <bruenig> java is going to open sourced soon, outsourced, not sure
[03:48] <deltab> p47: the exact program depends on the model of keyboard you have, I guess
[03:48] <bruenig> madsaientist, nothing
[03:48] <mistform> verbose how do I do the checksum?
[03:48] <DShepherd> madsaientist: right now.. nothing
[03:48] <bobjones_> Hi all, can i install winxp side beside my ubuntu install? as my ubuntu partition takes the whole disk, can i resize and move the partition?
[03:48] <p47> deltab: I think so !
[03:49] <madsaientist> what does it do ?
[03:49] <verbose> mistform: md5sum <filename>
[03:49] <bruenig> is ubuntu-desktop necessary when you try to do a dist-upgrade
[03:49] <verbose> bobjones_: you can use gparted to resize your ubuntu partition
[03:49] <bruenig> i have always fresh installed but I have a lot of work in this install
[03:50] <bobjones_> verbose: can i also move it toward the end of the disk? as i think winxp needs to be in the beginning? or is that not true?
[03:50] <tale_> I'm trying to configure cups via my web browser pointed at port 631 on Ubuntu Server.  However, the https doesn't work.  Does anyone have a solution to get the web page to allow administration without requiring me to rebuild the packages?  By the way, this is on Ubuntu server, so I don't have X installed.
[03:50] <Flannel> bobjones_: yeah, windows needs to sit on hda1, if I remember correctly
[03:50] <pluma> Okay, so I got an unpacked copy of the latest JDK sitting on my desktop. Now where am I supposed to put it so other users can use it, too, and am I actually supposed to put the bins in the bin folder and the libs in the lib folder? What about the rest.
[03:50] <mistform> it matches the checksum
[03:50] <dr_willis> bobjones_,  not true any more..  i think with xp.. but its a good idea
[03:51] <mistform> verbose: checksum matches perfectly
[03:51] <madsaientist> what is the point of ubuntu-desktop?
[03:51] <oem> hello all ubuntu people
[03:51] <pluma> Sun JDK that is, of course.
[03:51] <verbose> bobjones_: i'm not sure if xp requires that or not
[03:51] <oem> as you know I have always a question.
[03:51] <bruenig> madsaientist, it is a meta package
[03:51] <bobjones_> thanks, well ill try that.  Otherwise is there any tool that will let me move the partition?
[03:52] <verbose> bobjones_: i think you can specify to move it to the end of the disk, but be aware that whatever's closest to the front(or inside) of the disk will be faster than stuff on the outside, or back
[03:52] <oem> everytime I used GoogleEarth for linux using ubuntu it just went off like every 5 minutes
[03:52] <verbose> madsaientist: then try chmod +x'ing the file and then ./<filename>
[03:52] <ffh> hey all
[03:52] <SillyZ> q: how does one create a packages database locally on the hard drive, as I have no cdrom in the laptop i will want / need the packages located on the localdrive
[03:52] <verbose> not madsaientist , mistform
[03:52] <oem> to using it again I have to reboot it. Any idea why?
[03:52] <verbose> sorry
[03:52] <mistform> lol
[03:53] <mistform> i was wonderong...
[03:53] <Flannel> bobjones_: you'll need this too: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:53] <mistform> ring*
[03:54] <sapaki> hi the install button for the new ubuntu doesn't work, it won't install ubuntu on my laptop
[03:54] <mistform> verbose: chmod, then what else?
[03:54] <sapaki> it is just stalling
[03:54] <bobjones_> great, thanks guys for all your help
[03:54] <bruenig> !alternate > sapaki
[03:55] <bobjones_> flannel: oh yeah i forgot about the windows boot loader!, i wont beable to override it, as live linux cds dont work for me, i have a jmicron pata controller, not supported in the currently linux kernel.  had to net install
[03:55] <pluma> Where should I put the Sun JDK directory? Surely not /usr/jdk1.5.0_08/, right?
[03:55] <bruenig> pluma, you could put it in /opt if you want
[03:56] <pluma> bruenig: How would I get the bins recognised, though? Is there an environment variable I need to change?
[03:56] <Chrono86> hey guys, trying to install xgl/compiz and when I punch in this command  "sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl compiz-gnome cgwd cgwd-themes" I get an error about dependancies regarding cgwd-themes and compiz-gnome
[03:56] <verbose> mistform: after you chmod it, at the command prompt, `cd ~Desktop`, then type ./ followed by the filename(without a space between the / and the filename)
[03:57] <bruenig> pluma, I don't like manual installs for just this reason. APT is god and has super cow powers from what I understand
[03:57] <verbose> pluma: either symlink java to somewhere in your path, or add the dir to your path
[03:57] <verbose> but what bruenig says is true...if you want to build stuff yourself and maintain it you're kinda using the wrong tool(ubuntu)
[03:57] <TheGame> any1 here know anything about 915resolutio
[03:58] <mistform> ooooh
[03:58] <mistform> pretty
[03:58] <mistform> I love you Verbose
[03:58] <mistform> I really love you :D
[03:58] <pluma> bruenig: I couldn't find an APT copy of Sun JDK 1.5.0_08, though, and I want to find out whether it's the JRE that's slow or the system.
[03:58] <mistform> man....
[03:58] <verbose> mistform: :)
[03:58] <mistform> I hate things like this
[03:59] <bruenig> I would guess jre. Java is so terribly slow
[03:59] <verbose> i've never really had a problem with java's slowness, but i usually don't use huge java apps...cause they're slow :P
[03:59] <pluma> verbose: figures. But it's the first distro that doesn't screw up my mouse. I don't know what driver it uses, but even after checking ALL available drivers on, e.g., Debian the mouse would still act quirky (random jumping etc).
[03:59] <mistform> kk, I just had to use Sudo to write to the /opt/ directory
[04:00] <verbose> pluma: did you change the battery in it before you installed ubuntu?
[04:00] <bruenig> azureus has such great features but the java cripples it
[04:00] <pluma> verbose: Nope. No battery. It's a cable one.
[04:00] <pluma> verbose: Logitech optical with cable.
[04:00] <sapaki> i need help with installing ubuntu on a laptop
[04:00] <verbose> pluma: weird, is it running through a kvm or something?
[04:01] <pluma> verbose: yepp
[04:01] <sid6000> Hi guys. Is there anyone here that might help me with getting KDE apps working in gnome?
[04:01] <bruenig> !tell sid6000 about anyone
[04:01] <verbose> pluma: that sucks, i have a bunch of usb mice for just that reason...this old kvm doesn't like mine either
[04:01] <pluma> verbose: However, Ubuntu recognised it instantly. With the other distros even trying all drivers manually didn't work.
[04:01] <verbose> pluma: ironically though i had more issues in windows than linux
[04:01] <sid6000> bruenig: heh. I see.
[04:02] <verbose> pluma: how odd
[04:02] <Flannel> sid6000: shouldn't be any problems, just apt-get and go.
[04:02] <verbose> sid6000: if you apt-get install them they will install the dependencies automagically
[04:02] <sid6000> Flannel: sure, and that's usually how it goes with me.
[04:02] <deltab> verbose: outer tracks nowadays have more sectors than inner tracks, so no reason to presume they'll be slower
[04:02] <sid6000> However, my most recent installations all consistently fail.
[04:03] <sid6000> All KDE dependencies are installed, but KDE apps, when launched, complain about "DCOPServer", among other things.
[04:03] <verbose> deltab: it's not about sectors, it's about less seeking cause the closer to the inside you are the less you have to travel each spin
[04:03] <sid6000> And, despite confirming that these various services are running, the KDE apps do not work.
[04:03] <pluma> verbose: Ubuntu feels a bit too user-friendly sometimes (this is after about a week of using it). I mean that in the same sense I mean it for WinXP.
[04:04] <pluma> verbose: Also I've come to realise I loathe KDE. GNOME is so much prettier.
[04:04] <SillyZ> i dont think pretty has anything to do with it, i feel more along the lines of it just actually works and not a bunch of apps jumbled together just for the sake of a 'desktop'
[04:05] <Flannel> sid6000: you might try asking in #kubuntu, I'm not familiar with the DCOP server, but google seems to imply its nothing out of the ordinary for KDE (well, except being an error)
[04:05] <cokeslut> Hello
[04:05] <method|>  why does ubuntu and suse recognize my fat32 partition as having only 1 gig of free space when it has like 11 gigs of free space?
[04:05] <cokeslut> out of interest
[04:05] <Mportnoy> what is the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu ?
[04:05] <deltab> verbose: travel from where?
[04:05] <method|> kde vs. gnome
[04:06] <bruenig> pluma, user friendliness also coexists with somebody who really wants to do stuff the hard way or expertly. Windows says we want all user friendliness even if that shuts out the people who want very specific things
[04:06] <buzzygirl> Kubuntu is based on the KDE desktop
[04:06] <pluma> SillyZ: I don't mean "pretty" in the eye-candy sense. It just feels less... cluttered up. Even after putting a couple of applets on the panels.
[04:06] <method|> cool people use kubuntu
[04:06] <method|> :D
[04:06] <bruenig> kubuntu = slow
[04:06] <HeavyJay> Yes
[04:06] <HeavyJay> KDE for life.
[04:06] <buzzygirl> Ubuntu is based on GNOME
[04:06] <method|> bruenig: not true
[04:06] <Flannel> surely you mean kool people.  And, language wars belong in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[04:06] <method|> i always felt that kde was snappier than gnome
[04:06] <method|> i honestly think its all mental tho
[04:06] <sid6000> so, like
[04:06] <bruenig> the only good part about kubuntu is that you get to watch the bouncing icon as all the programs load, in gnome you only get the loaded program
[04:06] <buzzygirl> I like both for diff. reasons
[04:07] <method|> kde's apps are better imo
[04:07] <bruenig> kde apps are better certainly, the de isnt
[04:07] <method|> i like the fact that kde is leaps and bounds of gnome with it comes to customization
[04:07] <buzzygirl> Yeah, KDE has more apps I use
[04:07] <method|> of=above
[04:07] <verbose> deltab: from sector to sector...think of it as a race on a round track...do you want to be on the inside of the track or the outside
[04:07] <pluma> bruenig: not true. You usually get a "Loading ..." (or whatever) in the task list.
[04:07] <bruenig> I have never had something I wanted to customize that I couldn't
[04:07] <buzzygirl> this is my first time here, I am a new Ubuntu user
[04:08] <TheoMurpse> Hey I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop and it boots up past loading hardware drivers and starting kernel log, and makes a black screen, loads up that funky Ubuntu-maroon color background, then freezes with that round mouse pointer that looks a little like a clock...how can I fix this? Can I get to a command line and see what's going on?
[04:08] <raal> how to uninstall software in Ubuntu?
[04:08] <bruenig> pluma I meant that it loads up so much faster that you don't really get to watch that often. The bouncing icon, you always get to see that
[04:08] <pluma> Folks, I'm talking about personal opinion here. This isn't supposed to become another holy war.
[04:08] <method|> im installing suse now to complete my linux distro tour
[04:08] <Flannel> raal: same way you installed it, via synaptic/add-remove/apt-get
[04:08] <bruenig> raal, what are you trying to uninstall
[04:08] <buzzygirl> method, which distro's your fave so far?
[04:08] <method|> ive started with fedora, went to ubuntu, then freespire, now suse
[04:08] <HeathenDan> how do i stop nautilus from opening a window when i insert a data disc?
[04:08] <SillyZ> pluma agreed i was only stating personal opinion, flame me if necessary
[04:08] <imme> Hello, does anyone know of a way to reset animals?
[04:08] <imme> :D
[04:08] <SillyZ> pmsgs welcomed
[04:08] <method|> honestly fedora was, that doesnt mean that it was the best
[04:08] <SillyZ> :D
[04:08] <sapaki> i'm having the same problem thoeomprese
[04:09] <method|> ubuntu was the easiest to use by far
[04:09] <sapaki> what's up with that?
[04:09] <SillyZ> agreed method|
[04:09] <buzzygirl> I have used SuSE, Red Hat, Yellow Dog (for Mac) and now Ubuntu. Ubuntu is the best I've used so far for ease of use
[04:09] <pluma> Reason #63521 I already like Linux better than any other OS I ever used: symlinks. So useful.
[04:09] <deltab> verbose: whichever is closer to the next sector to be read
[04:09] <Flannel> guys, take the Kubuntu vs Ubuntu discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:09] <bruenig> it pretty much stopped
[04:09] <method|> i'll probably be going back to ubuntu because i honestly dont like rpms
[04:09] <imme> Xubuntu 4 ever!
[04:10] <imme> :D
[04:10] <bruenig> lol
[04:10] <verbose> deltab: the inside is faster than the outside...google it
[04:10] <buzzygirl> I like Automatix and Synaptic, so much easier to install programs than it used to be
[04:10] <gz1> Will ubuntu work if installed on the last 20gb of a 300gb HD?
[04:10] <bruenig> uhoh, buzzy girl said the A word
[04:10] <deltab> verbose: using what words?
[04:10] <method|> yeah automatix and easyubuntu is awesome
[04:10] <TheGame> wow
[04:10] <imme> Does anyone know the Command Line program animals?
[04:10] <bruenig> oh no, now it is being repeated
[04:10] <TheGame> some1 want to help me with 915resolution
[04:10] <buzzygirl> is "A" bad? Actually I have only used it once, to get XChat! He
[04:10] <MarcN> imme: never hear of it.
[04:11] <bruenig> mention automatix and that is grounds for being banned
[04:11] <bruenig> or so it has been in the past
[04:11] <buzzygirl> why?
[04:11] <buzzygirl> I didn't know that
[04:11] <TheGame> no1 here knows 915res?
[04:11] <bruenig> it destroys your system apparently
[04:11] <deltab> imme: animals - Traditional AI animal guessing engine using a binary tree DB
[04:11] <bruenig> TheGame, no
[04:11] <buzzygirl> Hmm?
[04:11] <deltab> imme: that?
[04:11] <TheGame> my go
[04:11] <TheGame> d
[04:11] <buzzygirl> right away, or eventually?
[04:11] <imme> deltab: Yes
[04:11] <method|> automatix never caused harm for any of my systems
[04:11] <MarcN> imme: it guesses what animial you have in mind?
[04:11] <imme> deltab: Do you by any chance know how to reset it?
[04:12] <buzzygirl> Well, so far it works okay, I have far more use for Synaptic though
[04:12] <imme> MarcN: Yes. :D I thaught it bad things. :D
[04:12] <gz1> I had XP installed on the 300gb HD, installed ubuntu and there's no grub during boot...goes right to XP
[04:12] <bruenig> buzzygirl, I use and have never had a problem although one of the anti-automatix claims is that they way it installs some of the software makes dist-upgrade not work so that would suck when edgy comes out, I guess we will see
[04:12] <buzzygirl> I see
[04:12] <buzzygirl> I'm getting a laptop soon, and will put Edgy on that, I won't on this 'puter, too old and slow probably
[04:12] <pluma> I tried SuSE, Debian, Knoppix and Ubuntu so far. SuSE somehow just ticked me off (probably KDE's fault) and Debian's installation just overwhelmed me. Can't really say much about Knoppix. So far I like Ubuntu best, although Synaptic tends to feel a bit weird at times. I installed various applications and games that don't show up in the menu and can't be launched via /usr/bin/<app> (they just don't give any feedback when executed) though the descri
[04:12] <sid6000> Could anyone tell me why I might be having this problem when starting Amarok under gnome:
[04:12] <sid6000> "There was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE. The message returned by the system was: Could not read network connection list. Please check that the "dcopserver" program is running!
[04:12] <motorcitymadman> any help with this ?  (abiword:10967): GnomePrint-WARNING **: Could not create filter from description 'frgba': filter 'frgba' is unknown
[04:13] <gz1> I remember a while back that Linux needs to be at the beginning of the HD....but I'm not sure about that.
[04:13] <bruenig> the anti-automatix hatred has died down though, maybe the script has gotten better or they have changed something to placate the haters
[04:13] <bruenig> gz1, thats not true
[04:13] <buzzygirl> I see
[04:13] <Flannel> No. bruenig, we just don't talk about it.
[04:13] <Gun_Smoke> Synaptic  Package Manager will not start.. I tried starting it from add/move, and I tried starting it from system>admi>SPM.  It will ask for password and then fail.  This started yesterday.  Any ideas?
[04:13] <buzzygirl> well, I will keep an eye on it.
[04:13] <MarcN> gz1: did you let grub install?  Re-install xp afterwards?
[04:13] <TheoMurpse> Hey I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop and it boots up past loading hardware drivers and starting kernel log, and makes a black screen, loads up that funky Ubuntu-maroon color background, then freezes with that round mouse pointer that looks a little like a clock...how can I fix this? It's completely frozen, I can't Ctrl-Alt-F* to get to a terminal to check on anything. Help!
[04:13] <pluma> And, of course, Firefox still doesn't work as it should. And of course the thing that Firefox is part of the repository and thus doesn't update automatically, which kinda weirds me out.
[04:13] <method|> one thing that i hate about kubuntu is that my lcd doesnt seem as bright and networkmanager seems broken
[04:13] <method|> it doesnt save wep keys and the like
[04:14] <buzzygirl> I have another older
[04:14] <buzzygirl> oops
[04:14] <buzzygirl> another older computer... thinking of trying out Xandros
[04:14] <buzzygirl> But I really like Ubuntu a lot
[04:14] <imme> I think I'll try deleting the animals.db file :D
[04:14] <gz1> MarcN: well I installed from the iso and it installed, and then it said to reboot and remove the CD. It booted right to XP, no grub menu as I expected :()
[04:14] <Flannel> gz1: you installed windows last?
[04:15] <MarcN> gz1: is anything strange about how xp is installed on it?
[04:15] <gz1> Flannel, no XP was already installed
[04:15] <deltab> imme: yeah, /var/games/animals/animals.db
[04:15] <Flannel> gz1: did you skip out on installing grub then?
[04:15] <Flannel> gz1: Anyway, this should help regardles: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:15] <gz1> MarcN: not that I can think of....this is a brand new comp, brand new 300GB Sata drive
[04:16] <MarcN> gz1: no install problems/messages?
[04:16] <BlueEagle> gz1: Have you also got IDE drive(s) on your machine=
[04:16] <BlueEagle> ?
[04:16] <pluma> Is there a way to find out which physical HDD is mounted to what directory?
[04:16] <gz1> BlueEagle: yes a second 80GB IDE
[04:16] <BlueEagle> pluma: mount w/o arguments
[04:16] <verbose> pluma: mount
[04:16] <MarcN> pluma: df
[04:16] <marcus__> hiya
[04:17] <BlueEagle> gz1: Then that's your problem.
[04:17] <imme> deltab: I did a "man animals", had to think of that one earlier... :S
[04:17] <BlueEagle> gz1: Did you use the live cd?
[04:17] <buzzygirl> hi marcus_
[04:17] <bandaid> I have a problem, the install window is too big and I can't get past the language menu because I can't see the next button (which i am assuming exists)
[04:17] <gz1> MarcN: first attempt at the install failed but I think it had to do with a dirty CD drive. Ran a cd cleaner and the second one worked.
[04:17] <pluma> BlueEagle: Ta.
[04:17] <gz1> BlueEagle: LiveCD yes
[04:17] <SillyZ> try tabbing to the 'forward' button and hit enter
[04:18] <gz1> BlueEagle: I'm running that now....
[04:18] <bandaid> is there a way to make the window smaller
[04:18] <gz1> BlueEagle: btw, they should have Xchat or irssi installed on the liveCD ;)
[04:18] <BlueEagle> gz1: getting solution for you
[04:18] <BlueEagle> gz1: isn't irssi on there? o.O
[04:18] <pluma> Also, is there a documentation of Ubuntu's directory structure? Tends to vary with distros a bit, so I figured the distro might be the most reliable place to look for a proper documentations.
[04:18] <marcus__> okay i installed the ati glx and it only gives me info. do i need to install the other thing too? plus what are the advantages of 3d acceleration other than xgl?
[04:18] <Gun_Smoke> Synaptic  Package Manager will not start.. I tried starting it from add/move, and I tried starting it from system>admi>SPM.  It will ask for password and then fail.  This started yesterday.  Any ideas?
[04:18] <Gun_Smoke> And is Edgy worth getting yet?  I've heard it still has few bugs?
[04:18] <SillyZ> ya i have noticed, that ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu all seem to go for the highest posisble resolution
[04:19] <VikJES> bandaid: I wonder if the CTRL-ALT-+ works in the LiveCD
[04:19] <SillyZ> try ctrl + alt + - key on numpad
[04:19] <deltab> imme: strace -e file animals  is another way
[04:19] <buzzygirl> need to go... good evening, all (or morning)
[04:19] <verbose> pluma: man hier
[04:19] <TheGame> 915resolution doesnt work right
[04:19] <BlueEagle> gz1: are you booting off the IDE or sata drive?
[04:19] <oem> hello all
[04:19] <MarcN> pluma: it follows the debian file structure.  /usr/share/doc/ usually has helpful stuff
[04:19] <TheGame> it only works if i restart gnome
[04:19] <pluma> verbose: ta
[04:19] <TheGame> not on boot up
[04:19] <TheGame> does anyone know how to fix this problem
[04:19] <gz1> BlueEagle: SATA
[04:19] <BlueEagle> gz1: You might need to change that and then edit your /boot/grub/device.map file
[04:19] <bandaid> ok I'll try that
[04:19] <BlueEagle> gz1: ie. your grub might be installed on the ide drive.
[04:19] <bandaid> is there an IRC client on the live CD
[04:19] <method|> suse is really slick
[04:20] <Flannel> bandaid: GAIM, and irssi
[04:20] <bandaid> ok sweet
[04:20] <BlueEagle> gz1: another alternative is to re-install grub and put it on (hd1)
[04:20] <bandaid> rebooting to live now
[04:20] <bandaid> i'll be back if I still have trouble
[04:20] <method|> bootup is faster than ubuntu too
[04:20] <DShepherd> method|: kool
[04:20] <bcron> hilom_gurl, I can't get the terminal to launch... anyone know how to fix that?
[04:21] <oem> I have a QuickCam logitech, is there any program in linux ubuntu that I can use for it, since logitec do not provide a driver for linux?
[04:21] <MarcN> method|: you choose a distro based on boot time?
[04:21] <bcron> lol... I meant to say Hi, ...
[04:21] <BlueEagle> gz1: if you choose the former you might also need to remap the drives to get windows to boot at all.
[04:22] <BlueEagle> gz1: if you do the latter you should probably be ok with the menu.lst you've got.
[04:22] <ClayG> is there anything remotley like cooledit?
[04:22] <oem> I have a QuickCam logitech, is there any program in linux ubuntu that I can use for it, since logitec do not provide a driver for linux?
[04:22] <gz1> Blueeagle: ok let me try to (re)install grub...I want the Sata drive to be the main one.
[04:22] <SillyZ> well so far, checked out ubuntu(gnome), kubuntu(kde), now installing xubuntu just for giggles
[04:22] <gz1> oem: ekiga
[04:22] <Madpilot> ClayG, what is "CoolEdit" designed to edit?
[04:22] <BlueEagle> gz1: Are you comfortable with setting up a chroot environment?
[04:22] <rixth> I want a good browser. Firefox is bloated. Opera looks ugly. Any suggestions?
[04:22] <oem> glz: you mean a program name ekiga?
[04:22] <oem> where can I download it?
[04:23] <Madpilot> rixth, epiphany
[04:23] <beshy> rixth: epiphany
[04:23] <rixth> Madpilot, beshy won't it have the same problems as Firefox?
[04:23] <Madpilot> oem, ekiga is already installed in Dapper. Go Applications->Internet->Ekiga
[04:23] <BlueEagle> rixth: if opera looks ugly you are free to install different skins on it. :)
[04:23] <ClayG> Madpilot: mp3s and other audio files
[04:23] <Madpilot> rixth, it's far less bloated
[04:23] <beshy> rixth: the ony resemblance is it uses gecko to render too
[04:23] <keithhhh> ole ole
[04:23] <Madpilot> ClayG, try audacity
[04:23] <gz1> oem: gnomemeeting.org or something like that it's a video conferencing tool, linux spotted my logitech camera without problems.
[04:23] <method|> [9:22]  <rixth> I want a good browser. Firefox is bloated. Opera looks ugly. Any suggestions?
[04:23] <Mportnoy> How can I enable the Windows key on ubuntu Dapper ?
[04:23] <method|> opera ugly?
[04:23] <MarcN> rixth: try the command line browsers for small size (lynx, links, w3m).
[04:23] <method|> pssssssh
[04:23] <beshy> gecko isn't what makes ff bloated ;)
[04:24] <Madpilot> gz1, Ekiga is Gnome-meeting renamed
[04:24] <Ych> what about ff is bloated?
[04:24] <rixth> BlueEagle, it's the fact it is based on QT, the menus & right click menus are really ugly, you can't theme those
[04:24] <ClayG> I tried it, but it didn't seem to want to let me just take 20 seconds out and save it as another file, save times were HORRIBLE
[04:24] <beshy> firefox 2 seems much snappier than ff 1.5 though
[04:24] <rixth> Ych, it's slow, so it must be bloated.
[04:24] <Ych> ah ok
[04:24] <rixth> I have a better browsing experience using IE.
[04:24] <beshy> my tabs load instantly
[04:24] <Ych> its fast for me
[04:24] <beshy> its like a new world
[04:24] <MarcN> Mportnoy: System->Pref->Keyboard (and keyboards shortcuts)
[04:24] <ClayG> but I'll give it another whirl, i think it needed plugins to handle mp3's.  And that makes since, it's not like mp3s are one of the most common formats around
[04:24] <ClayG> lol
[04:24] <rixth> Hmm, I'll check it out. I was using Minefield a while back
[04:25] <gz1> Blueeagle: chrooted environment? not really...I started setting up one in freebsd a while back but got discouraged. ;)
[04:25] <Ych> how about mozilla?
[04:25] <oem> madpilot: ekiga is a video conferencing only, I cannot capture a picture, record a video at all from there.
[04:25] <Ych> ugliest browser ive seen...
[04:25] <Ych> lol
[04:25] <beshy> Ych: the definition of bloat
[04:25] <Ych> and ugly
[04:25] <beshy> its like opera only uglier
[04:25] <beshy> o.O
[04:25] <imme> deltab: What does it exactly do? "strace -e file animals", is the animals.db a file with multiple system calls or something like that:S?
[04:26] <sid6000> say, ClayG
 so my choices are a diseased crack whore (IE), a ball-busting advertising exec (opera), a 400-pound hairy woman (mozilla), and a needy money grubbing model (firefox)...
[04:26] <sid6000> err
[04:26] <Ych> a good bash quote on the topic
[04:26] <verbose> Ych: opera doesn't have the adds anymore
[04:26] <sid6000> ClayG: why not try running CoolEdit under the vmware player?
[04:26] <Ych> i know
[04:26] <verbose> it is the supreme browser these days
[04:26] <Ych> but still
[04:26] <verbose> all hail
[04:26] <Ych> hmmm
[04:26] <beshy> nothing about opera is supreme ;P
[04:26] <Ych> i dunno
[04:26] <rast4> Ok I'm still having a Samba issue. Here is the problem. I can access a Win2k3 Server from my ubuntu laptop, it asks for my username/pass and then it lets me connect. I can also view my workgroup and see all of my XP machines, but I can't, for the life of me, get it to connect to an XP machine.
[04:27] <Ych> i never know whether to use opera or ff
[04:27] <Ych> opera has all the features
[04:27] <verbose> beshy: use it and compare
[04:27] <deltab> imme: animals accesses that file, and strace tells you when it does so
[04:27] <BlueEagle> gz1: Well you'll need to mount the partition(s) on which ubuntu is installed and then bind-mount the /dev and /proc filesystems then simply run sudo chroot /path/to/installed/linux/
[04:27] <BlueEagle> gz1: It's really not hard
[04:27] <Ych> ff is more compact
[04:27] <beshy> verbose: I installed it off the canonical repositories a few weeks ago
[04:27] <beshy> it made me want to vomit
[04:27] <BlueEagle> gz1: Unless ofcourse you've got the alternate install cd.
[04:27] <Ych> what i like about opera are things like resume last session
[04:27] <BlueEagle> gz1: that will repair grub for you iirc.
[04:27] <beshy> firefox2 has tht
[04:27] <beshy> :)
[04:27] <verbose> beshy: well, you are the problem then, not opera...NEXT
[04:27] <Ych> where?
[04:27] <Ych> oh
[04:27] <Ych> 2
[04:28] <Ych> missed that part
[04:28] <Ych> hmmm
[04:28] <beshy> verbose: opera isnt a browser - it's a web suite. end of story.
[04:28] <Ych> so when is the final release of 2?
[04:28] <beshy> late october
[04:28] <beshy> its in edgy now
[04:28] <Ych> hmmm
[04:28] <Ych> have to use opera til then...
[04:28] <Ych> opera also has better shortcuts
[04:28] <rast4> Samba gurus, anyone?
[04:28] <Ych> keyboard and mouse
[04:28] <sapaki> i can't install ubuntu from the live cd's any ideas why
[04:28] <Ych> better navigability
[04:29] <Flannel> sapaki: try the alternate ISOs
[04:29] <Ych> however a major con is the bookmarks toolbar
[04:29] <Ych> or lack thereof
[04:29] <verbose> Ych: use the personal bar
[04:29] <beshy> I'm happy to say I've converted the last opera user I know to firefox :] 
[04:29] <BlueEagle> rixth: You can theme the icons on the menu and the menus. And it should be possible to install a different QT theme to fix the menus.
[04:29] <Gun_Smoke> Synaptic  Package Manager will not start.. I tried starting it from add/move, and I tried starting it from system>admi>SPM.  It will ask for password and then fail.  This started yesterday.  Any ideas?
[04:29] <TheoMurpse> I do a Ubuntu boot with option "(recovery mode)" and it freezes at IPv6 over IP4 tunneling driver. How can I get past this?
[04:30] <Ych> well anyway
[04:30] <sapaki> msg/ flannel what is wrong with those cd's
[04:30] <Ych> i came here to ask a completely different question
[04:30] <Ych> but i forgot what it was now
[04:30] <Flannel> sapaki: nothing.  Some hardware doesnt like the desktop (live) CD
[04:30] <imme> deltab: Can you do strace on most programs or only simple ones?
[04:30] <BlueEagle> rixth: btw how much are you looking at the menus to be annoyed by their apperances. :)
[04:30] <gz1> Blueeagle: hmmm....I should be ok if I do "Using the LiveCD while preserving Windows Bootloader" and putting grub on the MBR...right?
[04:30] <beshy> imme: throw any program you want at it
[04:31] <Flannel> sapaki: another thing is that you mightve burned the CD too quickly, try again at 4x.
[04:31] <rixth> BlueEagle, the toolbar at the top looking nothing like anything else, as I have custom fonts on everything.
[04:31] <rixth> But Opera doesn't take heed.
[04:31] <deltab> imme: any, except setuid ones
[04:31] <playtime3> If I have windows XP running on my laptop and wish to install ubuntu can i make it as a due boot?
[04:31] <TheoMurpse> playtime3: yes
[04:32] <Flannel> !tell playtime3 about dualboot
[04:32] <deltab> imme: it's useful for seeing what programs are doing, what files they access, etc.
[04:32] <imme> deltab: yeah, I wrote it down.
[04:32] <imme> :D
[04:32] <playtime3> thanks Flannel
[04:33] <imme> deltab: I kind of keep track of my powerfull commands in ubuntu... :P like "ps -ef"(if i'm not mistaking now)...
[04:33] <BlueEagle> gz1: yes. the installation should have detected your windows install and will chainload it fine.
[04:33] <BlueEagle> gz1: the problem is that grub gets confused which drive is hd0 and hd1 when there are both sata and pata disks present.
[04:34] <deltab> imme: do you know about pstree?
[04:34] <gz1> BlueEagle: ok I'll hopefully see you guys on the flip side...thanks :)
[04:34] <band-aid> ok I'm back in here, I made it past the language screen but now I can't pass the map screen because I can't tab to the next button. the ctrl + alt + - didn't do anything
[04:34] <imme> deltab: Now I do. :P
[04:34] <imme> deltab: nice...
[04:35] <SillyZ> did ya try the + KEY on the numpad
[04:35] <playtime3> Flannel the link u given me from ubotu doesnt work
[04:35] <SillyZ> not the + or - key next to the 0 zero key, the ones on the numeric pad
[04:35] <monteiro> i cant find no option to add micro in the mixer with my intel , anyone knows how to add it ?
[04:35] <Flannel> playtime3: which one?
[04:35] <imme> deltab: Thanks for the tips, I'm off now, got to teach animals. :P
[04:36] <Flannel> playtime3: oh, hmm.  Remove the "howto" from the end
[04:36] <playtime3> This one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[04:36] <band-aid> neither the + nor the - worked
[04:36] <Fensta> anyone kow when there will be an upgrade for the newest kernel?
[04:36] <playtime3> ohhh ok
[04:36] <SillyZ> setup windows, install it, setup linux, install grub or lilo, done
[04:36] <Ych> whats a good chess program?
[04:37] <BlueEagle> fensta: I am guessing "right after it's put in the repos" :p
[04:37] <band-aid> is there a next button or anything on the map page of the installer?
[04:37] <SillyZ> there 'was' a chess server program for linux at one time, kinda like a mud but involved chess
[04:37] <SillyZ> dont recall the name of it
[04:37] <playtime3> Its working now :)
[04:37] <Ych> lol k
[04:37] <Gun_Smoke> The Disks Manager will not finish starting up.. It just hangs.. Synaptic wont launch, what is going on?
[04:37] <waspius> anyone know how i can check why my applications are running slownly?
[04:37] <BlueEagle> fensta: The delay between the release of a new kernel and it being made avail in the repos is caused by the fact that ubuntu kernels have got several patches applied. Takes some time to apply and test those.
[04:37] <BlueEagle> (afaik)
[04:37] <Fensta> ok
[04:38] <BlueEagle> fensta: However you are free to compile your own kernel with sources released on kernel.org.
[04:38] <uber_mort> Hey all, I've written a config utility to get new Linux users connected to my campus network.  I've been testing it and found out that the DHCP lease they get expires after so many hours.  A lot of newbies won't know what to do when this happens, is there a way to get an infinite DHCP lease, or auto renew?
[04:38] <SillyZ> how does the xfce packages compare to say the gnome packages, in numbers?
[04:38] <band-aid> Is there a way I can get my resolution above 640 X 480?
[04:38] <band-aid> that way i can see all my windows
[04:38] <BlueEagle> fensta: so the answer is partly "as soon as a new kernel is released on kernel.org" but that assumes that you are comfortable compiling your own kernel.
[04:38] <Fensta> heh
[04:38] <Fensta> indeed im not ;-P
[04:38] <Fensta> so I shall wait
[04:39] <SillyZ> anyone know if i can run gnome or kde based applications in xfce ?
[04:39] <deltab> band-aid: Systems / Preferences / Screen Resolution
[04:39] <uber_mort> band-aid: There are a few ways.  If you're famailiar with editing the xorg.conf file you can do that, or you can use the utility that comes with gnome.  Unfortunately I use KDE so I can't help ya on that one ;)
[04:39] <BlueEagle> fensta: Also, unless you know that you need a new kernel or there are some critical security holes in the one you've got that you are unable to work around then you don't need to upgrade your kernel. :)
[04:39] <uber_mort> band-aid: But it looks like deltab can :)
[04:39] <_azrael> SillyZ: You should be able to with no issues.
[04:39] <jan> SillZ yes i believe so
[04:39] <SillyZ> thanks _azrael
[04:40] <Fensta> ya.. I have just heard that some drivers I need to work might work with the new kernel
[04:40] <rixth> Wow, Bon Echo is way faster
[04:40] <band-aid> where would that .conf file be located?
[04:40] <jan> <<< is having problems with some networking issues
[04:40] <javiolo> uber_mort I think you can put how long the dhcp session is going to be
[04:40] <deltab> band-aid: /etc/X11
[04:40] <uber_mort> band-aid: /etc/X11/xorg.conf but I'd suggest using the tool in Systems / Preferences / Screen Resolution
[04:41] <BlueEagle> sillyz: when you install a gnome or kde app in xubuntu it will install any dependencies it requires. There is no problem running a KDE app in xfce however it will in most cases load various KDE libraries (mainly QT and Arts). These take up additional memory and Arts can in some cases mess with your sound.
[04:41] <band-aid> whenever I click on that, it won't let me change it
[04:41] <jan> certain of my computers are coming up with IP addresses that are not assigned by the router
[04:41] <marc_> Have a problem with USB WL54G wireless adapter (Chipset is ZyDAS Zd1211b)
[04:41] <uber_mort> javiolo: I'll check it, thanks
[04:41] <BlueEagle> sillyz: Gnome applications however use GTK which is the same widget set as XFCE afaik.
[04:41] <marc_> lsusb shows Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0ace:1215 ZyDas Bus 001 Devide 001: IS 0000:0000 so it sees the USD adapter OK
[04:41] <rast4> can someone tell me the syntax to add users to Samba?
[04:41] <marc_> I can see the module loaded lsmod shows zd1211 206624 0 usbcore 130692 3 zd1211,usbhid,uhci_hcd BUT
[04:41] <marc_> iwconfig shows - lo no wireless extensions - there is nothing obvious in dmsg please help it is making me nuts
[04:42] <BlueEagle> jan: Are those computers set up to recieve IP from a DHCP server?
[04:42] <javiolo> uber_mort www.dhcp-handbook.com/dhcp_faq.html
[04:42] <marc_> anyon have any ideas?
[04:42] <deltab> marc_: des it show up as an interface?
[04:42] <jan> Blueeagle yes and they do receive them, that is to so i can ping them using the router assigned address but when i use ifconfig a "wrong" number shows
[04:42] <BlueEagle> marc_: might be needing firmware for the device.
[04:42] <marc_> deltab: no nothing there
[04:43] <BlueEagle> jan: Have you got another machine on the network that is also running a dhcp server?
[04:43] <jan> Blueeagle i do not believe so
[04:43] <rast4> is it me or am I thinking that out of everyone in here, no one is proficient in Samba?
[04:44] <BlueEagle> jan: You can believe in church on sunday. In here we _know_!! (j/k) :p
[04:44] <jan> hehehehe
[04:44] <oscur0matic> hey guys.... :(
[04:44] <jan> sorry ....
[04:44] <oscur0matic> look at this.
[04:44] <oscur0matic> setting mode to 1024x768x32
[04:44] <oscur0matic> X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[04:44] <qbit_> anyone know how to get mp3 support in amarok?
[04:44] <uber_mort> javiolo: I can't seem to find anything about specifying a lease time
[04:44] <jan> Blueeagle i suspected it may have something to do with vmplayer at one point
[04:44] <oscur0matic> Minor opcode of failed request:  10 (XF86VidModeSwitchToMode)
[04:45] <band-aid> arrrgghhh this is frustrating
[04:45] <SillyZ> oh im in love! xfce
[04:45] <javiolo> uber_mort search on tha page for expire
[04:45] <SillyZ> lightweight, easy on the eyes, most definatly whats going to go onto the laptop
[04:46] <band-aid> is there a way I can resize the installer window, the keyboard shortcuts don't work
[04:46] <ClayG> does frostwire crash on anyone else lately?
[04:46] <band-aid> and I can't drag it to make it any smaler
[04:46] <BlueEagle> jan: Which IP does ipconfig report and which IP did you expect to find?
[04:46] <CarNagE__> oscur0matic: Mistakenly, there are three unused inpput devices configured in your xorg.conf, remove them by removing the corresponding "InputDecive" sections and the three entries in your screen configuration
[04:46] <CarNagE__> They are named like wacom, stylus and eraser, iirc
[04:46] <uber_mort> javiolo: What page?
[04:46] <unio> it works :D
[04:46] <CarNagE__> Attached you can find a comment "Only for pocket pc"
[04:46] <javiolo> uber_mort www.dhcp-handbook.com/dhcp_faq.html
[04:47] <jimmygoon> whats the chances of firefox some day not clearing the clipboard when we exit the program?
[04:48] <jan> Blueeagle ..... ifconfig reports as follows at the moment (but this changes on reboot) ... usb1 169.254.116.171 (this is the strange one) and wlan0 reports 10.1.1.8 and this is a router assigned address
[04:48] <unio> one more question though... i can't install any .deb packages; "Package Installer" gives an error on each one: "Error: Dependancy is not satisfiable: <blah>", what's wrong?
[04:48] <BlueEagle> jimmygoon: As soon as someone implements that feature. FF is open source you you are free to do it yourself. :)
[04:49] <BlueEagle> jan: Is the netmask for the strange address something like 255.0.0.0?
[04:49] <unio> hey, jramsey -- it works now (i'm the person you helped with the username root thing)
[04:49] <jramsey> in sharing ubuntu folders with windows xp, xp is prompting for username and password; is this my ubuntu username/password?
[04:49] <jramsey> unio, good to hear it!!
[04:49] <jan> its 255.255.0.0
[04:49] <BlueEagle> jan: Have you got a wired ethernet card on your computer?
[04:49] <ReggyLove> how can read from a FAT partion, im running the liveCD Ubuntu
[04:49] <jimmygoon> BlueEagle: I would if I could man, I specialize in PHP right now but as soon as I finish a few projects here... linux programming is my next goal ;)
[04:49] <verbose> jramsey: you have to set a samba password with smbpasswd
[04:50] <jan> yes i have both
[04:50] <Flannel> !tell jramsey about samba
[04:50] <BlueEagle> jan: Not sure why it would be reported as usb1 instead of eth0 but..
[04:50] <Flannel> jramsey: it's explained on the bottom half of that page
[04:50] <jan> none of themn seem relkated to usb1 which i do not recognise at all
[04:50] <BlueEagle> jan: You can always remove it if you find an entry for it in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:50] <oscur0matic> CarNagE__ thank you very much!
[04:50] <oscur0matic> gonna look for that file =)
[04:50] <jramsey> verbose, txs i'll do some reading
[04:50] <DBO> ***ATTENTION USERS*** For anyone who has recently experienced a issue with synaptic not launching and fixed it with the symlink method, or is currently experiencing this issue, please join #ubuntu-xgl now, we are starting a fix it session in 10 minutes
[04:50] <CarNagE__> You're welcome :)
[04:50] <jan> Blueagle ty will go check
[04:50] <SillyZ> anyone had any experience with the partitioning tool in ubuntu, in resizing ntfs partitions?
[04:50] <unio> i can't install any .deb packages; "Package Installer" gives an error on each one: "Error: Dependancy is not satisfiable: <blah>", what's wrong?
[04:51] <BlueEagle> unio: did you see what dbo just wrote?
[04:51] <BlueEagle> unio: it was prefixed with ***ATTENTION USERS***
[04:52] <jan> Blueeagle usb1 does not appear in that file
[04:52] <unio> i did, but i didn't realise it had anything to do with me heh (ubuntu/linux noob >_<)
[04:52] <BlueEagle> unio: When someone makes that big an effort to get someones attention it might be prudent to give it. :)
[04:52] <mooseman447> hey anyboy know what /usr/bin/dpkg error code 1 is?
[04:52] <BlueEagle> unio: :D
[04:52] <jramsey> verbose, is the computer_name in smbpasswd -a -m computer_name the windows computer name?
[04:52] <DBO> unio, are you a compiz user?
[04:52] <BlueEagle> jan: Hmm.
[04:52] <BlueEagle> jan: does lsusb list anything remotely looking like eth or net?
[04:52] <unio> Compiz?
[04:53] <unio> DBO: i guess not :P
[04:53] <DBO> unio, then it doesnt effect you
[04:53] <DBO> please continue your support here =)
[04:53] <BlueEagle> dbo: is the libvte compiz only?
[04:53] <DBO> BlueEagle, well its in the compiz repos, so only compiz users are effected
[04:53] <BlueEagle> dbo: ahh I see. Thanks
[04:54] <band-aid> If I install ATI drivers while using a Live CD will they overwrite my windows drivers and mess everything up?
[04:54] <BlueEagle> unio: I'll need to know what <blah> is if I'm going to have a chance helping you.
[04:54] <BlueEagle> unio: feel free to use !pastebin if it's a lot of text.
[04:54] <unio> BlueEagle: it's different stuff depending on what i'm trying to install
[04:54] <jan> Blueeagle not as such but it does list this .... Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0846:6a00 NetGear, Inc. WG111 WiFi (v2)
[04:54] <jan>  which is actually wlan0
[04:54] <unio> currently, on GCC 4.x, it's "cpp 4.0"
[04:55] <BlueEagle> unio: You're attempting to apt-get install gcc?
[04:55] <unio> BlueEagle: yes
[04:55] <BlueEagle> jan: O'rly?
[04:55] <BlueEagle> unio: Did you contemplate installing the build-essential package?
[04:55] <BlueEagle> !build-essential
[04:55] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:56] <unio> >_<
[04:56] <FirstStrike> sudo aptitude install build-essential
[04:56] <jimmygoon> quit
[04:56] <jan> Blueagle and also Bus 002 Device 002: ID 05e3:0502 Genesys Logic, Inc. GL620USB GeneLink USB-USB Bridge
[04:56] <jan>  which i do not recognise
[04:56] <BlueEagle> jan: head to the pastebin site and put up your iwconfig and lsusb output please.
[04:57] <jan> blueagle will do
[04:57] <TheGame> can some1 tell me what the font name is on the gnome-look.org website
[04:57] <unio> thank you FirstStrike :)
[04:57] <TheGame> im not sure if its arial or not
[04:57] <unio> it's looking like it's helping, :P
[04:57] <FirstStrike> yes
[04:57] <FirstStrike> that's one of the first things you should always install
[04:57] <jramsey> verbose, i got it txs for ur help
[04:58] <FirstStrike> the sudo aptitude search stuffhere feature is helpful as well
[04:58] <javiolo> is there any command to show what services are running ?
[04:58] <javiolo> not ps
[04:58] <FirstStrike> top perhaps?
[04:59] <javiolo> for example ssh
[04:59] <playtime3> I have just install swat already where do i go to find it?
[04:59] <Chrono86> hey guys, has anybody been able to download flash? whenever I try at ANY time over the last year or so the linux download from macromedia always slows to a halt
[04:59] <FirstStrike> uh
[04:59] <FirstStrike> i downloaded it yesterday
[05:00] <javiolo> !flash
[05:00] <band-aid> how do I change my screen resolution
[05:00] <Chrono86> this happened to me on suse as well...the download starts then slows down to nothing
[05:00] <BlueEagle> where did ubotu go? o.O
[05:00] <Flannel> he'll be back
[05:00] <FirstStrike> band-aid: system > preferences > screen resolution
[05:00] <Chrono86> would somebody be able to send me the file?
[05:00] <unio> whoa
[05:00] <band-aid> how do I change my screen resolution
[05:01] <playtime3> I have just install SWAT with synaptic package manager already where do i go to open SWAT?
[05:01] <unio> did anyone else notice that? like 50 people left =O
[05:01] <BlueEagle> chrono86: did ubotu send you a /msg ?
[05:01] <jramsey> yep
[05:01] <newbie-too> Newbie question: I have Ubuntu 5.1, Alexandria 0.6.1, and an unmodified cuecat. Suggestions to make them get along?
[05:01] <Chrono86> thanks!
[05:01] <unio> YAY!
[05:01] <BlueEagle> chrono86: did you have a look at http://www.brc.tamus.edu/swat/doc.html ?
[05:01] <unio> gcc works now =D
[05:01] <unio> thank you so much :)
[05:01] <Chrono86> thanks firststrike!
[05:01] <BlueEagle> chrono86: that's the first link that pops up when I google for: swat documentation
[05:02] <FirstStrike> yep
[05:02] <johnny> does anyone know why mupen64 wont load any n64 roms?
[05:02] <FirstStrike> unio: that's a netsplit
[05:02] <playtime3> I have just install SWAT with synaptic package manager already where do i go to open SWAT? Anyone?
[05:02] <johnny> i've tried opening a couple and none of them work
[05:02] <Madpilot> !ping
[05:02] <unio> FirstStrike: ah
[05:02] <ubotu> ping: unknown host
[05:02] <BlueEagle> chrono86: make that http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/doc/Software_manuals/samba/swat/help/welcome.html which should be relevant.
[05:02] <johnny> is there a special way im suppose to install it?
[05:02] <Payton_Byrd> Hello.  Can anyone help me with a question about upgrading LIBC6 on Ubuntu 6.06?
[05:02] <unio> i'm going to go now for a bit, get used to this new fangled thang, i'll be back later though :)
[05:02] <unio> later
[05:02] <jramsey> Payton_Byrd, ask
[05:03] <BlueEagle> chrono86: and ignore the links I posted.
[05:03] <javiolo> !ask
[05:03] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:03] <BlueEagle> playtime3: make that http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/doc/Software_manuals/samba/swat/help/welcome.html which should be relevant.
[05:03] <Chrono86> um...where do my irc downloads go in linux haha
[05:03] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell chrono86 about flash
[05:03] <Chrono86> I'm following the installing 32bit firefox and flash method right now
[05:03] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell payton_byrd about anyone
[05:04] <FirstStrike> Chrono86: what client are you using?
[05:04] <Chrono86> xchat
[05:04] <Payton_Byrd> I'll bite.  How do I "ask".  I'm not familiar with irc #ubuntu etiquett.
[05:05] <FirstStrike> /home/username/.xchat2/downloads
[05:05] <jramsey> Payton_Byrd, just ask your question
[05:05] <TheGame> any1 know whats the best looking font
[05:05] <TheGame> for ubuntu
[05:05] <FirstStrike> Payton_Byrd: just ask your question. include as much information as possible so we can better help you.
[05:05] <FirstStrike> if it's a long error make sure you use pastebin
[05:05] <BlueEagle> payton_byrd: Well describing the problem you are experiencing might be a good idea. Also error messages are helpful. :)
[05:06] <Chrono86> well it seems my downloads go into .xchat2/downloads...where is that folder...
[05:06] <FirstStrike> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:06] <FirstStrike> Chrono86: i just told you
[05:06] <BlueEagle> payton_byrd: ie. stuff that will enable us to identify the cause of the problem.
[05:06] <FirstStrike> it's in your home folder
[05:06] <FirstStrike> hit ctrl + h in nautilus to show hidden files/folders
[05:06] <Chrono86> ahhh THAT's how you see hidden files...I've been wondering tha tfor a long time now
[05:07] <FirstStrike> if you go into edit > preferences you can enabled it permanentliy
[05:07] <FirstStrike> enable*
[05:07] <Chrono86> thanks
[05:07] <Payton_Byrd> I am trying to install Monodevelop 0.11 from the meeby.net repository.  It requires the latest mono-comon, which requires libc6-2.3.6-6, but the repositories don't have that version.
[05:07] <BlueEagle> chrono86: You've also got an option in your view menu that sais "CTRL+H Show hidden files"
[05:07] <jan> BlueEagle .... http://pastebin.ca/139737
[05:08] <Payton_Byrd> So, my question is, "How do I install libc6-2.3.6-6 (or greater)"?
[05:09] <BlueEagle> jan: You're right. That does look weird.
[05:09] <johnny> whats a good n64 emulator?
[05:09] <redsoxfan90> help help
[05:09] <redsoxfan90> i just got my ubuntu cd in the mail
[05:09] <redsoxfan90> and im installing it
[05:09] <jan> BlueEagle ty ty ty i have been driiving myself nuts trying to understand it
[05:09] <BlueEagle> johnny: that would be an emulator that is able to accuratly emulate a nintendo 64 and play all you throw at it.
[05:10] <FirstStrike> sorry, i can't help you cause you're a redsox fan.
[05:10] <FirstStrike> >:P
[05:10] <johnny> i need a name of one BlueEagle
[05:10] <BlueEagle> johnny: then ask for it.
[05:10] <johnny> i have mupen64
[05:10] <johnny> but it doesnt open any roms
[05:10] <newbie-too> I am trying to get my unmodded cuecat to work as a barcode scanner for Alexandria 0.6.1 on Ubuntu 5.10 but (checking in the terminal window) I only seem to be getting the complete encryted data stream. Question: Does Ubuntu have a cuecat decoder included? If yes  do I have to "install or activate it".
[05:10] <mlbb> k
[05:10] <mlbb> back
[05:10] <mlbb> new name ;)
[05:10] <mlbb> question
[05:11] <mlbb> i have winxp, will i be able to get my wireless drivers after i finishing installing ubuntu?
[05:11] <FirstStrike> you shouldn't have to install any drivers
[05:11] <mlbb> nice :)
[05:11] <mlbb> ok next question
[05:11] <FirstStrike> although it may or may not work out of the box.
[05:11] <FirstStrike> i've seen a lot of people with wifi problems
[05:12] <mlbb> prepare my disk space it says resize ide1 master partition #1 hda1 and used freed space or??
[05:12] <jan> BlueEagle any ideas???
[05:12] <johnny> do you know of one BlueEagle
[05:12] <doug_> anyone know how to use knetworkmanager for wireless networks on an intel 2200 card?
[05:12] <FirstStrike> if you're dual booting then you want to resize and leave the current partition intact
[05:12] <FirstStrike> otherwise you're going to wipe out your windows install
[05:12] <mlbb> i only have 256 mb not enough to dual boot..
[05:12] <BlueEagle> johnny: No, I do not. :)
[05:12] <mlbb> yet..
[05:13] <BlueEagle> jan: Not really.
[05:13] <FirstStrike> uhh
[05:13] <FirstStrike> does your windows partition consume your entire hard drive?
[05:13] <BlueEagle> payton_byrd: try this on a terminal: apt-cache show libc6|grep Version:
[05:13] <FirstStrike> because you could use something like partitionmagic to resize it so you have space for ubuntu
[05:13] <HellDragon> FirstStrike: S
[05:13] <mlbb> um below the "prepare disk space" it says" new partition size 71%
[05:14] <FirstStrike> HellDragon: T
[05:14] <HellDragon> :o
[05:14] <Payton_Byrd> root@ubuntu:/etc/apt# apt-cache show libc6|grep Version:
[05:14] <Payton_Byrd> Version: 2.3.6-0ubuntu20
[05:14] <Payton_Byrd> root@ubuntu:/etc/apt#
[05:15] <mlbb> first strike?
[05:15] <FirstStrike> mlbb: 71% isn't going to help us help you. we need the size of your hard drive, how much space remains, etc. to help you.
[05:15] <BlueEagle> payton_byrd: That is the same version I've got and the newest one in the repository. If you need a newer build then you will probably have to build it yourself. However if you rebuild your libc you may end up breaking a lot of applications.
[05:15] <mlbb> can't be much...
[05:15] <mlbb> i have games like battlefield 2 on winxp
[05:15] <mlbb> and its only 256 mb
[05:15] <mlbb> fills up fast.
[05:15] <FirstStrike> wait wait
[05:15] <FirstStrike> 256 GB
[05:15] <FirstStrike> not mb
[05:15] <johnny> can i download a windows n64 emulator to my linux partition and use wine to run it?
[05:16] <FirstStrike> a 256 mb drive wouldn't even hold windows xp
[05:16] <FirstStrike> 1000 MB = 1 GB
[05:16] <mlbb> then its gb..
[05:16] <Payton_Byrd> Well, that probably explains why none of the repositories are publishing monodevelop 0.11 nor any of the latest versions of mono-common.
[05:16] <BlueEagle> firststrike: Don't you know that the new disk space requirements are listed as %. That's bloat ware for you. No matter how big your drive is the app still takes up 25% :p
[05:16] <FirstStrike> lol
[05:17] <mlbb> so should i click erase entire disk ide1 master (hda) and use free space?
[05:17] <FirstStrike> no
[05:17] <FirstStrike> not unless you want to lose everything on your windows drive
[05:17] <jramsey> Payton_Byrd, sudo apt-get install mono will not do what you want?
[05:17] <FirstStrike> er windows partition*
[05:17] <BlueEagle> payton_byrd: That would be a good explination.
[05:17] <Payton_Byrd> It does not get me the version of mono necessary to install monodevelop 0.11.
[05:17] <mlbb> first strike
[05:17] <mlbb> i want to as long as i can get my wifi on ubuntu :)
[05:18] <Payton_Byrd> This is really not cool.
[05:18] <FirstStrike> well, if you want to erase everything then yes do that.
[05:18] <mlbb> but will the wifi work?
[05:18] <FirstStrike> that will remove windows and all of your files and install ubuntu on a clean disk
[05:18] <Payton_Byrd> OK, how could I go about building libc6?
[05:18] <FirstStrike> not knowing anything about your wifi card i can't say
[05:18] <FirstStrike> you need to provide more details
[05:18] <mlbb> how can i check my wifi card?
[05:19] <mlbb> well the dis is already in my laptop :)
[05:19] <mlbb> so ill use google.
[05:19] <mlbb> http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2570
[05:19] <mlbb> thats the exact 1
[05:19] <BlueEagle> payton_byrd: As a general rule the packages in the repositories are stable. Afaik monodevelop is not all that stable. If you really really want bleeding edge (read: broken) then there are other distros for you. You can also try to use Ubuntu Edgy (#ubuntu+1) which is the development version of the next release. It will however probably not work very well.
[05:20] <jramsey> Payton_Byrd, try this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186570
[05:20] <BlueEagle> payton_byrd: Another alternative is Gentoo (which I do not recomend for a desktop system)
[05:20] <FirstStrike> mlbb: that card is supported
[05:20] <mlbb> http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/7111.jpg it has a wifi button
[05:21] <johnny> Does anyone know a good n64 emulator?
[05:21] <mlbb> so my wifi will work on ubuntu?
[05:21] <FirstStrike> yes
[05:21] <mlbb> sweet
[05:21] <mlbb> :)
[05:21] <mlbb> so
[05:21] <mlbb> erate entire disc..
[05:21] <jan> payton-byrd if you want to do things like this it might be worth considering setting up a virtual machine as a play pen
[05:21] <mlbb> erase
[05:21] <FirstStrike> yea
[05:21] <mlbb> gonna click it :)
[05:22] <FirstStrike> a lot of people new to linux like to dual boot but if you want to jump right in go for it.
[05:22] <FirstStrike> you might miss it at first
[05:22] <Madpilot> mlbb, please use one line per sentence - don't overuse your Enter key... thanks
[05:22] <mlbb> first strike.
[05:22] <mlbb> i can dual boot later.
[05:22] <mlbb> not gonna worry about it
[05:22] <mlbb> i have my winxp cd still :)
[05:22] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[05:23] <newbie-too> does anyone here use a cuecat?
[05:23] <Payton_Byrd> This box is my playpen.
[05:23] <_Hero> newbie question here
[05:23] <FirstStrike> well, have fun with ubuntu mlbb. the first time i ran it i spent a good week just customizing it how i wanted it.
[05:23] <FirstStrike> you've got a lot more freedom then you have with windows.
[05:23] <_Hero> How do I install a package? I have the server install, so no GUI.
[05:23] <dougie187> but it works great the first time you install it
[05:24] <mlbb> ty for the help :)
[05:24] <mlbb> its installing
[05:24] <jan> BlueEagle, pls dont take this as a hassle .... is there anything you can help me with or should i seek help elsewhere?
[05:24] <FirstStrike> _Hero: a deb package?
[05:24] <dougie187> Does anyone know how to use knetworkmanager with wireless?
[05:24] <FirstStrike> sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[05:25] <_Hero> that looks familiar
[05:25] <BlueEagle> jan: I really can not see where that usb1 device comes from. However I do not think it will be a big deal since it's not connected anywhere.
[05:25] <_Hero> I set the server up 6 months ago and haven't done anything to it since
[05:25] <jan> payten_byrd ok .... just that a vm machine can bused without borking you basic situation
[05:25] <FirstStrike> sudo aptitude install stuffhere to get things off aptitude
[05:26] <FirstStrike> make sure you do sudo aptitude update first though to update your sources
[05:26] <jan> BlueEagle ok ty .... just hate mysteries lol
[05:26] <_Hero> aptitude?
[05:26] <FirstStrike> it's similar to apt-get if you've used that
[05:26] <_Hero> apt-get
[05:26] <_Hero> that's what I used before
[05:26] <jramsey> jan, did you install the wireless tools pkg?
[05:26] <FirstStrike> then, sudo apt-get install blah
[05:26] <dougie187> should you always use aptitude instead of apt-get?
[05:27] <jan> jramsey no
[05:27] <FirstStrike> it doesn't matter which you use; but if you use one, stick to it.
[05:27] <FirstStrike> don't switch between apt-get and aptitude
[05:27] <dougie187> ok
[05:27] <_Hero> ahh
[05:27] <_Hero> its working
[05:27] <_Hero> I love computers that 'work'
[05:28] <mlbb> lol
[05:28] <_Hero> thanks
[05:28] <jramsey> jan, if you want to dig, start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[05:28] <dougie187> ok. so i need some help getting knetworkmanager to work with my wireless card if anyone knows how.
[05:28] <pluma> I'm beginning to develop an intense dislike for Java on Linux.
[05:28] <FirstStrike> hmm
[05:28] <jan> jramsey what is the package name?
[05:28] <FirstStrike> java hasn't given me any issues
[05:28] <lmosher> anyone here use qdvdauthor?
[05:28] <_Hero> uh oh
[05:28] <_Hero> dpkg returned an error
[05:28] <FirstStrike> i run azureus just fine
[05:28] <pluma> FirstStrike: I'm a Java programmer...
[05:28] <FirstStrike> missing dependencies?
[05:29] <BSG75> I am trying to run a D-link DWL-650 wireless nic on my laptop .. I have used iwconfig to setup what I need .. how do I make it go get an IP via DHCP please?
[05:29] <FirstStrike> pluma: ohh..have fun with that :P
[05:29] <BlueEagle> _hero: If you tell us what the error is we might be able to help.
[05:29] <jan> jramsey oops yes i have wireless-tools installed
[05:30] <pluma> FirstStrike: Exactly. Eclipse is slow as hell and now the Java System Library turns out to be mostly a dummy. And I can't download a proper copy of the JDK because I get a timeout on the download server.
[05:30] <_Hero> I'm trying to understand it, all.
[05:30] <_Hero> I'm trying to install mediawiki
[05:30] <_Hero> it was doing something with apache, when it quit
[05:30] <_Hero> Reloading apache configurationNo process in pidfile `/var/run/apache.pid' found running; none killed.
[05:30] <_Hero>  failed
[05:30] <_Hero> dpkg: error processing mediawiki (--configure):
[05:30] <_Hero>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:30] <_Hero> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:30] <_Hero>  mediawiki
[05:30] <_Hero> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:31] <jramsey> jan, what happens when you run iwlist
[05:31] <baconbacon> pluma, java -version gives what
[05:31] <BlueEagle> _hero: Seems that you need to stop apache before installing mediawiki then.
[05:32] <_Hero> is *that* what it says...
[05:32] <BlueEagle> _hero: Also you might want to bug report that package as it should detect wether or not apache is running before starting it and in such cases use restart.
[05:32] <Payton_Byrd> OK, libc6 2.3.2-16 requires tzdata, which ubuntu does not appear to install.  Will I hurt anything by installing that?
[05:32] <jan> jramsey a list of things beginning [interface]  and then a single word starting at scanning and ending with event
[05:32] <pluma> baconbacon: What? I downloaded a JDK from Sun, but it wasn't the actual JDK, because that server was down, but one intended for distros that want to include it in their releases.
[05:32] <compotatoj> I think my partition is failing or corrupted, I am trying to salvage data from it, but if I try to access certain files on it to copy, it will crash the computer even when using a livecd. Is there a fsck thing that I should try to make my partition not die?
[05:32] <pluma> Thus my manual is in Japanese and the lib is missing various jars.
[05:32] <method|> how can i change fstab so that users can mount this drive:
[05:32] <method|> /dev/sdb5            /windows/E           vfat       users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0
[05:32] <jramsey> jan, you have no values whatsoever?
[05:33] <jan> no it just looks like s et of possible things that could have useful info beside them but doesn't
[05:33] <BlueEagle> _hero: When apache (and many other programs, especially servers) start they write a .pid file to /var/run/. When you then attempt to start the server a 2nd time it detects that there is a .pid file with that name existing already and reports that the server is already started.
[05:33] <cilkay> Hello. I have a fresh install of 6.06 on an IBM ThinkPad A21p. The whole point of this installation was to get the external VGA out working but the function key still doesn't switch between the TFT panel and the external VGA output. Any idea how I can get this going?
[05:33] <jan> jramsey no it just looks like s et of possible things that could have useful info beside them but doesn't
[05:33] <verbose> method|: chmod 777 /windows/E ? that line looks correct but i'm not 100% cause it's fat
[05:33] <BlueEagle> _hero: However since mediawiki failed on such a condition then it is a bug in the install script and you are encouraged to report it
[05:33] <baconbacon> does mediawiki really install an instance for apache to use?
[05:34] <BlueEagle> !bug
[05:34] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[05:34] <jramsey> jan, so ur wireless adapter doesnt work at all?
[05:34] <verbose> method|: i'm not sure if there are different options for that though
[05:34] <_Hero> how would one report the bug?
[05:34] <_Hero> oh
[05:34] <pluma> Oh, fun. My load is at 100% because of the JVM. Maybe I should buy more memory. If only I had any spare money right now. Looks like I have to earn some soon =P
[05:34] <jan> jramsey umm yes its what i am actually running on at the moment
[05:34] <_Hero> I don't think I understand the bug well enough to report it
[05:34] <_Hero> how can I tell if apache is running?
[05:34] <FirstStrike> pluma: java can't touch my 2 gb
[05:34] <jramsey> jan, :) ok i jumped in the middle of ur session sry
[05:34] <compotatoj> how do you fix a corrupted partition with fsck?
[05:34] <BlueEagle> _hero: ps aux|grep httpd
[05:35] <pluma> FirstStrike: java touches my 512 mb in a nasty way.
[05:35] <FirstStrike> well, the java apps i run. i'm sure i could find some beast of a program to hog all my resources.
[05:35] <MrParanoia> looks like i'm going to have to backup my files and completely wipe out my hard drive to get this ubuntu to install properly
[05:35] <BlueEagle> _hero: or: ps aux|grep apache
[05:35] <`m0> FirstStrike: Java touches all my 1 GB :)
[05:35] <`m0> I dedicate 1 Gb to java and 1 gb for something else
[05:36] <jan> jramsey if you think you can maybe help pls check http://pastebin.ca/139737
[05:36] <FirstStrike> java is using 115.6 mb right now running azureus
[05:36] <pluma> This box wasn't even supposed to run a 64bit processor. The local store just ran out of 32bit mobos when my old one turned out to be the reason I couldn't get the LAN set up (the onboard Ethernet was broken). Hence also my lack of moneys.
[05:36] <BlueEagle> _hero: or: ps aux|grep `cat /var/run/apache.pid`
[05:36] <newbie-too> :(
[05:36] <BlueEagle> _hero: if any of those return a line (or several) then apache is running.
[05:36] <_Hero> I'm thinking of a different command
[05:37] <FirstStrike> ouch
[05:37] <jan> jramsey the problem is where the heck is usb1 and its associated ipaddress coming from
[05:37] <BlueEagle> _hero: to stop apache try: sudo /etc/init.d/apache stop
[05:37] <natemanafter> Okay, here's the situation... Used the alternative install disc and did an OEM install. What username do I use to log in once the install is completed? It never prompted for a username during the install. Am I going crazy?
[05:37] <_Hero> that says what processes are listening to the outside
[05:37] <FirstStrike> MrParanoia: it is simple!
[05:37] <FirstStrike> ubuntu is cake
[05:37] <DBO> BlueEagle, throw a 2 on that apache and it will work =)
[05:37] <BlueEagle> _hero: ps axu lists all running processes (regardless of if they are listening or not)
[05:37] <_Hero> true
[05:37] <_Hero> all right
[05:38] <BlueEagle> dbo: The error he got was: Reloading apache configurationNo process in pidfile `/var/run/apache.pid' found running; none killed.
[05:38] <_Hero> now I just need to figure out where apt-get put the files...
[05:38] <BlueEagle> dbo: ahh I see.
[05:38] <natemanafter> bump
[05:38] <BlueEagle> dbo: thanks for the keen eye.
[05:38] <BSG75> I am trying to run a D-link DWL-650 wireless nic on my laptop .. I have used iwconfig to setup what I need .. how do I make it go get an IP via DHCP please?
[05:38] <BlueEagle> _hero: Do you know if you've got apache2 installed?
[05:39] <_Hero> I do
[05:39] <_Hero> I'm running that
[05:39] <verbose> BSG75: dhclient eth?
[05:39] <BlueEagle> _hero: If so the error is that the script is looking at the wrong .pid file.
[05:39] <_Hero> I think that is why the script failed
[05:39] <_Hero> right
[05:39] <natemanafter> Okay, here's the situation... Used the alternative install disc and did an OEM install. What username do I use to log in once the install is completed? It never prompted for a username during the install. Am I going crazy?
[05:39] <_Hero> I have an apache2.pid
[05:39] <_Hero> but no apache.pid
[05:39] <baconbacon> _hero, i dont know about the command line but synaptic tells which files are installed by a package in the package properties, once its installed
[05:39] <jramsey> jan, u mean the dropped pkts?
[05:39] <BSG75> verbose: I will look in the livecd .. cause it's not installed
[05:39] <FirstStrike> natemanafter: uhh..it should have. i'm sure you entered something.
[05:39] <jan> BSG75 i usually use System>Administration>Networking gui
[05:39] <BlueEagle> _hero: To work around this you can make a symlink called /var/run/apache.pid and point it to /var/run/apache2.pid
[05:39] <_Hero> unfortunately, I can't run synaptic. this is a server install
[05:39] <VikJES> bandaid/part
[05:40] <FirstStrike> otherwise, boot into single user mode as root and create a user
[05:40] <MrParanoia> FirstStrike> then why can't i find a terminal program from the menu bar or an xterm icon on the desktop? the help files say to open a terminal window with: Applications->System Tools->Terminal. There's no such menu item on my applications list
[05:40] <BlueEagle> _hero: the syntax would be something like: sudo ln /var/run/apache2.pid /var/run/apache.pid
[05:40] <natemanafter> It was strange
[05:40] <_Hero> I know how to make symbolic links. Thanks
[05:40] <_Hero> but do I really need one?
[05:40] <_Hero> the script worked the second time I ran it
[05:40] <FirstStrike> MrParanoia: try Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[05:40] <_Hero> no errors
[05:40] <MrParanoia> FirstStrike> i had to search the filesystem and then add an appropriate icon for it
[05:41] <jan> jramsey no sorry ... the problem is that i have a router which assigns ip addressess in the 10.1.1.etc range whereas i am getting this mysterious ip address 169.254.116.171 all the time ... smetimes its different but always starts with 169
[05:41] <BlueEagle> _hero: o'rly?
[05:41] <BlueEagle> _hero: Well that sounds ehh odd.
[05:41] <jan> jramsey and i have no idea what this usb1 is
[05:41] <natemanafter> I was surprised when it suddenly asked me what password I wanted the user to have... but had not previously asked me to supply a username.
[05:41] <MrParanoia> FirstStrike> i don't have an accessories submenu under applications
[05:41] <BlueEagle> _hero: Well then all is good then I guess. :)
[05:41] <natemanafter> I think this was because I chose OEM install
[05:41] <FirstStrike> eh?
[05:41] <FirstStrike> what version of ubuntu are you running?
[05:41] <nopcode> lol
[05:41] <nopcode> microsoft ubuntu
[05:41] <Payton_Byrd> Can I uninstall package "locales" and replace it with "tzdata"?
[05:41] <MrParanoia> 6.06
[05:42] <baconbacon> jan, on windows you get an ip like that when theres a connection but no dhcp response, windows gives a 169.*
[05:42] <BSG75>  jan: nothing there :(
[05:42] <BlueEagle> natemanafter: the default usrname for an oem install is: oem
[05:42] <verbose> natemanafter: just for kicks, and i have no idea if this will work, try root with a blank password
[05:42] <FirstStrike> somethings borked if you're missing things
[05:42] <MrParanoia> FirstStrike> i've got a lot of things that don't work
[05:42] <BlueEagle> natemanafter: Atleat that's what I've figured from what I've seen said around here.
[05:42] <jramsey> jan, what wireless card is it?
[05:42] <jan> baconbacon wash ya mouth out :D  i am running ubuntu 6.06.1
[05:43] <verbose> jan: it's an rfc thing, not a windows thing
[05:43] <lmosher> anyone here use qdvdauthor?
[05:43] <baconbacon> jan, just saying
[05:43] <jan> jramsey its a netgear WG111v2 usb dongle
[05:43] <verbose> 169.254/16 is reserved range for machines that don't get a response from dhcp server
[05:43] <FirstStrike> that's pretty odd MrParanoia. I've installed 6.06 at least 10 times on various PC's and never had anything missing after install.
[05:43] <jan> baconbacon yes sorry i was just trying to be amusing ... doesn't always work sorry
[05:43] <BlueEagle> payton_byrd: apt-cache show locales|grep Priority:
[05:43] <BlueEagle> payton_byrd: I think locales should be 'required'
[05:44] <Payton_Byrd> Heh, it appears that if I uninstall locales it uninstalles ubuntu-minimal, which would seem to be the OS.  I cannot install tzdata because it conflicts with files installed by "locales".  libc6-2.3.2-16 depends on tzdata, so it appears that until someone creates a new ubuntu distro for libc6 that I'm screwed.
[05:44] <MrParanoia> FirstStrike> i don't even have make installed so that i can build wpa_supplicant
[05:44] <nopcode> apropos "wash your mouth out", i believed half of this day that this ubuntu version is called "breezy beaver"
[05:44] <nopcode> i was disappointed to be wrong
[05:44] <jramsey> jan this seems related http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2000140,00.asp
[05:44] <FirstStrike> yea..reinstall it again.
[05:44] <FirstStrike> you're missing too much
[05:44] <_Hero> hey, I got my wiki up in less than an hour
[05:44] <Payton_Byrd> OK, thanks for the help everyone!
[05:44] <_Hero> thanks all
[05:44] <MrParanoia> FirstStrike> this was my second attempt
[05:45] <pluma> nopcode: Better than beefy breezer.
[05:45] <FirstStrike> download a new iso and burn it
[05:45] <nopcode> pluma: =)
[05:45] <FirstStrike> perhaps there's some issues with your current one
[05:45] <_Hero> exit
[05:45] <FirstStrike> use a different mirror too
[05:45] <MrParanoia> FirstStrike> i had mandriva on here before - i guess i'll stick with what's familiar
[05:45] <jan> jramsey ... looking ty
[05:45] <BlueEagle> payton_byrd: again, if you want the bleeding edge (and I am guessing you will be bleeding) try ubuntu edgy (#ubuntu+1) or gentoo with ~arch keywords.
[05:45] <MrParanoia> FirstStrike> i diodn't d/l from a mirror
[05:46] <FirstStrike> well, it's your choice
[05:46] <MrParanoia> FirstStrike> the CD came with a linux mag
[05:46] <FirstStrike> are you on dial up where you can't download it?
[05:47] <MrParanoia> FirstStrike> i have 3Mb dsl
[05:47] <FirstStrike> then, download the ubuntu iso off the website and burn it and try installing with that.
[05:47] <FirstStrike> it would take you what..an hour at most to download it
[05:47] <BlueEagle> mrparanoia: Was it Ubuntu, Xubuntu or Kubuntu 6.06 you got?
[05:47] <MrParanoia> ubuntu
[05:47] <jan> jramsey that seems a windows oriented solution / suggestion .... um will check out the linux equivalent commands
[05:47] <jramsey> jan, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=460124
[05:48] <BlueEagle> mrparanoia: Hmm. Was this lack of terminal on the live cd or after you had installed?
[05:48] <MrParanoia> after install
[05:48] <michele> --
[05:48] <BlueEagle> mrparanoia: that is strange. :/
[05:48] <pluma> Mental reminder: If the swap partition gets bigger than 500 MB, things may get slower.
[05:48] <Doc_> dfsh
[05:48] <Doc_> sdfh
[05:48] <Doc_> sdhfsdhsdfh
[05:49] <BlueEagle> mrparanoia: Which mag did you get the image off?
[05:49] <Madpilot> Doc_, testing your keyboard, are you?
[05:49] <MrParanoia> don't remember - i don't see the mag in this room
[05:49] <BlueEagle> mrparanoia: ok.
[05:50] <FirstStrike> MrParanoia: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/
[05:51] <BlueEagle> Anyways I'm off.
[05:51] <BlueEagle> You all have a good one.
[05:51] <FirstStrike> cya
[05:51] <BlueEagle> jan: good luck tracking down that usb1 device. :)
[05:52] <kakalto> I assume 6.06.1 just applies all current updates to the downloadable cd image?
[05:52] <MrParanoia> FirstStrike> d/l in progress
[05:53] <pluma> Why do they call it a JDK if it doesn't even contain java.lang.Object? Gah.
[05:53] <nopcode> use c++ ;P
[05:53] <pluma> nopcode: use COBOL
[05:53] <jan> BlueEagle ty lol
[05:53] <MrParanoia> 1.3 Mb/s
[05:53] <FirstStrike> ok
[05:54] <FirstStrike> i'm going to watch a movie. good luck.
[05:54] <MrParanoia> thanks
[05:55] <jan> BlueEagle not even listed under /dev
[05:55] <blocky> is there a way to launch gdm login manager in a window within another x session
[05:56] <Patrick_> Hey weiners
[05:56] <Patrick_> WEINERS
[05:56] <mernil> Hello, I dont hear the sound when im trying to see youtube movies :-/
[05:57] <Fensta> anyone know how to disable the feature in gnome where the little hollow box expands when you open a window?
[05:57] <Patrick_> I hear me nuts
[05:57] <|rt|> mernil: there's a post on the forums that tells you how to fix that
[05:57] <regeya> hey, it's the weekend
[05:57] <pluma> Can anyone reach sdlc-esd.sun.com? I'm trying to figure out if this is yet another local problem.
[05:57] <|rt|> mernil: i had the same problem you need to install alsa-oss I believe and edit a config file
[05:58] <regeya> if I didn't know that from the calendar or the handy gnome clock, Patrick_ certainly reminded me.
[05:58] <pluma> Lemme rephrase that: Can *someone* reach it? I don't want you to DoS it.
[05:58] <regeya> Patrick_: do your parents know you're here?
[05:58] <mernil> |rt|: okay .. damn .. i use OSS :-/ .. thanks
[05:59] <Patrick_> Yeah, weirdo.
[05:59] <Patrick_> Why would you bring my parents up in here?
[05:59] <Fensta> anyone know a good gnome chess game?
[05:59] <pluma> Nevermind. It *is* a local issue. So now not only domains, but also specific sub domains are affected? What's THIS?
[06:00] <pluma> Fensta: 3dchess?
[06:00] <Fensta> just want a single board
[06:00] <pluma> Fensta: Isn't there an option to disable the other two?
[06:00] <Fensta> not sure
[06:00] <MrParanoia> another one added to my ignore list
[06:00] <Patrick_> I like girls
[06:01] <mernil> Fensta: gnuchess?
[06:01] <tyler_d> still cannot get connected to any peers using azureus? any suggestions, nat is ok, changed the port, tried 4 torrents....????
[06:01] <Fensta> im askin yall.. what is a good one?
[06:01] <pluma> Patrick_: You may be in the wrong channel.
[06:01] <mlbb> help!
[06:01] <mlbb> please
[06:02] <tyler_d> mlbb: little more specific there mang
[06:02] <cilkay> Any suggestions how I can get the external VGA output working on my ThinkPad in 6.06? I tried fooling around with the Size, Administration, & Positioning in the System Settings/Display section but that wasn't much help. What I really need to do is to get Function-F7 switching working. Any ideas?
[06:02] <|rt|> mernil: you could also try this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1297126&postcount=1
[06:02] <mlbb> FirstStrike are you there?
[06:02] <cilkay> The external PS2 mouse that's connected to the system also isn't working. I've had that working with other distros for a few years.
[06:03] <Patrick_> I have a huge weiner.
[06:03] <mlbb> i need help
[06:03] <cello_rasp> i'm using icewm but i dont know how to change the text size of gtk apps.. how??
[06:03] <sizzam> !ops
[06:03] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[06:03] <mlbb> it says my password is wrong
[06:03] <DBO> sizzam?
[06:03] <Madpilot> sizzam, ?
[06:03] <mlbb> when i go on ubuntu
[06:03] <pluma> That was... different.
[06:03] <sizzam> DBO, Madpilot,  nevermind, was going to tell you that Patrick_ needed kicked, but he left
[06:04] <Madpilot> sizzam, np, thanks.
[06:05] <redsoxfan90> i need help
[06:05] <pluma> Agreed.
[06:05] <redsoxfan90> it says my username and password is wrong when i turn o my comp
[06:06] <jan> BlueEagle ty for your time
[06:06] <jan> jramsey ty for your time too
[06:06] <pluma> redsoxfan90: Turn on or turn off?
[06:06] <brent_> how do i install winehq
[06:06] <redsoxfan90> when i turn it on
[06:06] <redsoxfan90> it says put in username
[06:06] <redsoxfan90> and password
[06:07] <redsoxfan90> and i don't know it
[06:07] <jan> baconbacon ty for yr input and apologies if i haveinadvertently upset you
[06:07] <brent_> how do i install winehq
[06:07] <redsoxfan90> it says my username and password is wrong when i turn o my comp
[06:07] <ttyfscker> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1399781#post1399781   << If anyone needs the xorg.conf to get your svideo/tv out on intel 915/910 graphics cards to work with the i810 driver in xorg,  there you go.. thats my post btw
[06:08] <Madpilot> redsoxfan90, do you remember the username & password you created when you installed Ubuntu?
[06:08] <jan> brent you have two basic choices with wine ... either use synaptic 'as is' and use the ubuntu version of wine OR adjust your repostories in synaptic to include the winehq repository
[06:08] <redsoxfan90> i atleast think i do...
[06:09] <redsoxfan90> ive tryed it
[06:09] <verbose> redsoxfan90: maybe try it with the caps lock key
[06:09] <ttyfscker> jan::  his options aren't limited to synaptic
[06:09] <dibblego> what's a typical DNS server?
[06:09] <verbose> dibblego: bind?
[06:10] <redsoxfan90> nope dont work
[06:10] <brent_> can you tell me the easest way
[06:10] <dibblego> of course
[06:10] <ttyfscker> dibblego:: you can install bind and use your local machine for dns server
[06:10] <eyequeue> dibblego, dhcp3-server
[06:10] <redsoxfan90> nope dont work
[06:10] <brent_> can you tell me the easest way to install wine
[06:10] <verbose> eyequeue: i'm pretty sure that doesn't do dns
[06:10] <ttyfscker> brent_:: sudo apt-get install wine
[06:10] <ttyfscker> brent_:: from the terminal :)
[06:10] <eyequeue> verbose, mind fart, my bad
[06:10] <jan> ttyfscker yes true but my suggestion will work
[06:11] <sizzam> brent_,  then winecfg from the terminal after that
[06:11] <redsoxfan90> how can i get my pw and username??????????
[06:11] <ttyfscker> redsoxfan90:: your suppose to remember them..
[06:11] <dibblego> redsoxfan90, O(n) lookup on your brain?
[06:11] <cokeslut> yo
[06:11] <redsoxfan90> i do remeber it
[06:11] <ttyfscker> haha
[06:11] <ttyfscker> i need a good cokeslut
[06:12] <JoshHendo> Does anyone here know how I would go about installing Diva (www.divaproject.com)
[06:12] <dibblego> sudo apt-get install bind, man bind; No manual entry - what's the name of the daemon?
[06:12] <JoshHendo> **www.diva-project.com
[06:12] <FirstStrike> redsoxfan90: at this point, reboot into safe mode and make sure you select single user. it'll take you to a root prompt where you can set the password of your username.
[06:12] <ttyfscker> dibblego:: bind
[06:12] <FirstStrike> passwd usernamehere
[06:12] <CrazyMonkey> i want to remove ubuntu from my dual booting laptop to install kubuntu, i plan to completly remove the partition containing ubuntu and install kubuntu, do i need to make some change with grub?
[06:12] <FirstStrike> type your password twice
[06:12] <FirstStrike> reboot and login
[06:12] <brent_> um the terminal doesnt see winehq
[06:12] <dibblego> ttyfscker, actually I think it is named
[06:13] <ttyfscker> CrazyMonkey:: why do you want to remove ubuntu, to install kubuntu?? they are practically the same, just diff window managers
[06:13] <cokeslut> ok
[06:13] <uber_mort> Hey, anyone here familiar with how runlevel scripts work?
[06:13] <ttyfscker> CrazyMonkey:: you can sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:13] <CrazyMonkey> ttyfscker i know, but i want to install kubuntu on my father<
[06:13] <ttyfscker> uber_mort:: whats your question?
[06:13] <redsoxfan90> FirstStrike i reboot
[06:13] <CrazyMonkey> ttyfscker i know, but i want to install kubuntu on my father's PC and i want to fully test it before
[06:14] <uber_mort> ttyfscker: I need to know if a script will block or fork when called at startup
[06:14] <brent_> ok how do  get winehq and use it?
[06:14] <frogzoo> uber_mort: default runlevel is 2 - /etc/rc2.d/S##process links to /etc/init.d/  - what else?
[06:14] <jan> CrazyMonkey its almost certain that the bgrub menu.list will be removed when you 'disappear tha ubuntu partition and the kubuntu install will give you a clean situatio
[06:14] <redsoxfan90> ok
[06:14] <redsoxfan90> its all done booting
[06:14] <redsoxfan90> back to login screan
[06:14] <brent_> ok how do  get winehq and use it?
[06:14] <uber_mort> ttyfscker: I'm writing a script to keep myself connected on my campus network, and I want a little script I wrote to run at startup but I don't want it to block because it'll essentially freeze the machine
[06:15] <frogzoo> brent_: winehq is a website - www.winehq.org
[06:15] <CrazyMonkey> jan thanks for the info
[06:15] <ttyfscker> uber_mort:: what do you mean block?
[06:15] <brent_> no really
[06:15] <uber_mort> ttyfscker: I don't want it to have the cpu until its done
[06:15] <FirstStrike> redsoxfan90: did you boot into safe mode? it should be in a command prompt..there should be no gui
[06:15] <brent_> how do i installl application and run it
[06:16] <jan> brent winehq is a website i think.    the question you seem to want to ask is how can i install and use wine
[06:16] <eyequeue> !patience > brent_
[06:16] <frogzoo> uber_mort: init scripts will block if they don't fork
[06:16] <brent_> wow
[06:16] <redsoxfan90> ill take a picture
[06:16] <jan> brent are you familiar with synaptic or do you prefer to use the command line?
[06:16] <brent_> so you guys arent gunna help me
[06:16] <brent_> ether
[06:16] <uber_mort> frogzoo: Ok, if I just call fork() at the top of my script that should take care of it though, right?
[06:16] <brent_> i will use syanpitic more
[06:17] <ttyfscker> uber_mort:: did you create a script and put it in /etc/init.d/  and create a sym link to /etc/rc2.d/Sxxxscript  ?
[06:17] <jan> brent ok, the next question is do you want to use the very latest version of wine or the one that is provided in ubuntu?
[06:17] <redsoxfan90> first strike
[06:17] <redsoxfan90> use pm
[06:17] <redsoxfan90> use pm first strike
[06:17] <frogzoo> uber_mort: nope - what you should do is read some of the scripts already installed
[06:17] <FirstStrike> brent_: sudo aptitude install wine
[06:17] <eyequeue> uber_mort, man update-rc.d
[06:17] <FirstStrike> in a terminal
[06:17] <uber_mort> ttyfscker: Not yet, I'm afraid that it'll block if I do, I need to make sure it forks
[06:17] <frogzoo> uber_mort: daemons will take a flag to send them to the background
[06:18] <brent_> ok now how do i run wine
[06:19] <ttyfscker> Unryu:: you in KY?
[06:19] <uber_mort> eyequeue: Why use that utility as opposed to creating a symlink of my own?
[06:19] <Unryu> ttyfscker: No, I am in GA
[06:19] <ttyfscker> ahh ok
[06:19] <Unryu> ttyfscker: Why, if I may ask?
[06:20] <ttyfscker> i just noticed your ISP was one popular in ky
[06:20] <eyequeue> uber_mort, why subvert the given tools?  more thorough checking etc
[06:20] <jan> brent you probably need to spend a bit of time reading up on wine ..... its not usually simply a matter of 'running' it
[06:20] <Unryu> alltel, neh
[06:20] <jan> brent i will see if i can find some good reading material for you
[06:20] <jan> brent if that will help???
[06:21] <FirstStrike> brent_: generally just type "wine program.exe" to run it (you have to be in the same directory the program is in) in a terminal.
[06:21] <FirstStrike> however, it's not always that simple
[06:21] <Unryu> Alltel here was just recently bought out by some company named Windstream, so im going to be going to that as of monday
[06:21] <FirstStrike> you will find yourself having to tweak things
[06:21] <uber_mort> eyequeue: Ahh, gotcha
[06:21] <ttyfscker> Unryu:: yea windstream took over here too.. its still by alltel though
[06:21] <FirstStrike> you can type winecfg in a terminal to run the cfg GUI app which will let you configure wine
[06:22] <Unryu> ttyfscker: Interesting.  I wonder how many other places are being taken over by Windstream
[06:22] <newbuntu> hello fellow ubunites
[06:22] <ttyfscker> Unryu:: probably everywhere that uses alltel
[06:23] <Unryu> ttyfscker: I never knew alltel to have been dropping out of the varied markets;  Maybe they are just going to focus on cellular, or are they being bought out completely?
[06:23] <jan> brent this is a good place to start .... http://www.winehq.com/site/docs/wineusr-guide/index
[06:23] <ttyfscker> Unryu:: i think its just a name change mostly
[06:24] <ttyfscker> to seperate there services
[06:24] <Unryu> Understandable
[06:24] <ttyfscker> probably so they can make extra money on the bills
[06:24] <Unryu> I will research more into it later, it intrigues me
[06:24] <Unryu> Actually, all of my bills are going down, after this change
[06:24] <Unryu> My $190 services goes down to a simple $100
[06:25] <ttyfscker> wow
[06:25] <Unryu> Plus im able to drop DirectTV and get DishNetwork through them, which saves more
[06:25] <Unryu> It really surprised me
[06:26] <ttyfscker> wow
[06:26] <Alexi5__> HELLO
[06:26] <ttyfscker> they offer 6mbps for the same price alltel offered the 3.5
[06:26] <Unryu> How much?
[06:26] <Alexi5__> are there any software in ubuntu that i can use to make UML diagrams
[06:26] <Unryu> I was offered 1.5 by alltel, but im able to get 3 for cheaper
[06:26] <newbuntu> anyone know of any good ubuntu dj mixing software?
[06:27] <rob> umm tried LMMS?
[06:27] <ttyfscker> newbuntu:: i dont know about dj mixing, but audacity is great for audio editing in several ways
[06:27] <verbose> Alexi5__: there are a few in the results of `apt-cache search uml`
[06:27] <newbuntu> i9ve tried mixxx and once had gdam working
[06:28] <rob> newbuntu: http://lmms.sourceforge.net/
[06:28] <newbuntu> i cabt seem to get traktor to work under wine
[06:28] <Unryu> Is lspci installed by default, or is another package required?
[06:28] <newbuntu> cant seem..
[06:28] <newbuntu> traktor dj works fine under wine... but doesnt recognize sound card
[06:29] <sizzam> i want to write a shell script that uses sudo, how do i do that?
[06:30] <ESPOiG> whats an easy way to mount an iso without editing fstab
[06:30] <Unryu> sudo mount -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/mount/location
[06:30] <ESPOiG> ta
[06:31] <ttyfscker> sizzam:: what do you mean?
[06:31] <pluma> How do I set the environment variables in Ubuntu? Permanently, that is .
[06:31] <ttyfscker> sizzam:: you can set a root password and use root shell for things like that
[06:31] <Unryu> Anybody know why my friend would not be able to use lspci?  States command not found, we are unsure as to why.  I believed it to have been installed by default, but might be mistaken
[06:31] <ttyfscker> unless your asking for something that asks the user to input there password
[06:32] <ttyfscker> Unryu:: echo $PATH
[06:34] <Unryu> ttyfscker: sec, he is trying to get it to me.  He has no net on his laptop, so we are trying to get his modem working, which we need lspci for
[06:34] <Unryu> ttfscker: "/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games"
[06:34] <verbose> Unryu: try /usr/bin/lspci
[06:34] <verbose> that's weird though...it's in his path
[06:35] <Unryu> verbose:  That worked.  Though, as to why it would not actually execute it with just lspci is beyond me
[06:35] <RadiantFire> i thought lspci was in /sbin/
[06:36] <verbose> RadiantFire: `which lspci`
[06:36] <RadiantFire> aparently only lsmod is in /sbin
[06:36] <RadiantFire> nm
[06:36] <Unryu> K, next question.  Does anybody know how to get this, working in Linux '0000:00:06.1 Modem: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 00d9 (rev  a2)'
[06:36] <RadiantFire> thats so random, cuz lsusb is in /usr/sbin/
[06:36] <nomad111> hey everyone how do i add repositories to synaptic/apt-get
[06:36] <RadiantFire> weirdness
[06:36] <nomad111> wat file do i edit
[06:36] <RadiantFire> nomad111: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:36] <nomad111> for multiverse stuff and watever
[06:37] <nomad111> thank you
[06:37] <RadiantFire> nomad111: uncomment the universe lines and add multiverse after universe
[06:38] <pluma> How do I set the environment variables in Ubuntu in a way that lets them persist across sessions?
[06:38] <nomad111> RadiantFire: yep all done
[06:38] <silvaran> pluma: /etc/profile ... ?
[06:38] <RadiantFire> nomad111: there is also a gui frontend for that file in synaptic
[06:38] <jcan_ras> pluma or ~/.bashrc
[06:39] <pluma> Ta.
[06:39] <nomad111> RadiantFire: where in synaptic is that section i cant seem to remember
[06:40] <RadiantFire> nomad111: settings->repositories
[06:41] <wweasel> Hey guys. I use uTorrent under WINE for my BitTorrent client. How could I set Firefox to open .torrent files with uTorrent?
[06:41] <Unryu> My friend has a laptop which has an onboard Nvidia modem.  Does anybody know how to possibly go about getting it working?  It's the only thing keeping him from using Linux
[06:42] <newbuntu> rob thanks for the word up about lmms dj software
[06:42] <ESPOiG> how do you mount an iso image without editing fstab??
[06:42] <joako> some one can suspend your laptop? i try butn when return the screen show only red lines
[06:42] <eyequeue> ESPOiG, man mount
[06:42] <verbose> ESPOiG: didn't you already ask that
[06:42] <ESPOiG> yeh
[06:42] <silvaran> ESPOiG: mount -t iso9660 /dev/device /where/to/mount
[06:42] <verbose> ESPOiG: and get an answer?
[06:42] <ESPOiG> but it didnt work
[06:42] <newbuntu> I love linux community  ... most cutting edge thing out there.... its like a living organism
[06:43] <nomad111> what was the command to update everything, sudo apt-get update?
[06:43] <ESPOiG> it said it couldnt find it in fstab
[06:43] <verbose> silvaran: add a -o loop to that
[06:43] <Unryu> ESP0iG: Give me the exact output.  The command I gave you should work fine, unless you mistyped something
[06:43] <Kr0ntab> ESPOiG, mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/file.iso /empty/mount/point
[06:43] <verbose> ESPOiG: you have to fill in the values for the paths
[06:43] <crimsun> silvaran: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:43] <newbuntu> apt-get  is the modern answer to karma-stealing windows piracy... bill gates gets a piece of every soul that steals from him
[06:44] <ESPOiG> verbose, really woah i would of neva figured that... :|
[06:44] <ESPOiG> soz
[06:44] <verbose> ESPOiG: np
[06:44] <newbuntu> gates has so much money ... it's souls he's after
[06:44] <ESPOiG> :D
[06:44] <kairu0> newbuntu, how do i update gnome in windows update?
[06:44] <ESPOiG> sarcasm always works
[06:44] <newbuntu> i dont do windows updates...
[06:45] <newbuntu> do you?
[06:45] <kairu0> no i havent installed it in drake yet
[06:45] <newbuntu> lol
[06:45] <newbuntu> windblows
[06:45] <eyequeue> kairu0, this is #ubuntu
[06:45] <kairu0> how do i put it on the damn start menu?
[06:46] <rob> newbuntu: Windows is off topic here, try #ubuntu-offtopic instead :)
[06:46] <newbuntu> I remember a linux conference where microsoft had a banner...  "help microsoft make linux even better"  ... screw that
[06:46] <eyequeue> rob, um, no
[06:46] <brent_> EWW WINDOWS
[06:46] <eyequeue> !windows
[06:46] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[06:46] <newbuntu> ubuntu is on topic though isnt it?
[06:46] <rob> umm, yes
[06:46] <rob> the offtopic channel is for whatever
[06:46] <eyequeue> rob, note the #ubuntu at the front, don't send him there
[06:47] <wweasel> I use uTorrent under WINE for my BitTorrent client. How could I set Firefox to open .torrent files with uTorrent?
[06:47] <newbuntu> ubuntu being better than windows is not something you can celebrate in this channel?
[06:47] <rob> I also suggest reading that factoid again eyequeue
[06:47] <joemauch> can anyone recommend me a music player that can play mp3, ogg, mpc, flac, ape, and aac?
[06:48] <newbuntu> I like to discuss ubuntu, linux, open-source and windows defections...
[06:48] <rob> newbuntu: use #ubuntu-offtopic then
[06:48] <rob> this is a help channel
[06:48] <newbuntu> I am stoked that rob just shared the lmms dj software hook up
[06:48] <newbuntu> okay I get it , i thought any ubuntu convo was acceptabe
[06:49] <newbuntu> i understand
[06:49] <rob> thanks :)
[06:49] <newbuntu> i do get the importance of this channel being help only, but occasionally I like to gloat about our bright community...
[06:49] <silvaran> newbuntu: Ehh, you have to draw the line somewhere :)
[06:49] <hawkaloogie> i restarted my computer and now e2fsck complains of a bad superblock on one of my hard drives, i tried using the alternate superblock to no avail, is there something else i can do to try to mount this drive?
[06:50] <wweasel> Anyone have any idea how to get Firefox to open a file with "wine /path/to/file/uTorrent.exe"
[06:50] <newbuntu> rob thanks again for lmms word-up  have a good night all
[06:50] <rob> cya newbuntu
[06:50] <kairu0> wheres everyone from?
[06:51] <ESPOiG> Australia
[06:51] <eyequeue> localhost
[06:51] <ESPOiG> lol
[06:51] <rob> ::1
[06:51] <kairu0> eyequeue, is that near australia?
[06:52] <silvaran> Atlantic Canada
[06:52] <verbose> and yet this is on-topic :P
[06:52] <wweasel> lol
[06:52] <wweasel> how about helping me with my Firefox problem :P It's not too hard.
[06:52] <kairu0> wweasel, shoot
[06:52] <silvaran> I think with the dismal amount of help requests tonight, nothing's off-topic (except for wweasel's problem..... j/k!!)
[06:52] <verbose> wweasel: i'm not sure...besides using a very bad hack of writing a 2-liner c program that calls system()
[06:53] <verbose> silvaran: seriously...where are all the ubuntu nerds on a friday night
[06:53] <wweasel> I want to get firefox to open .torrent files with "wine /path/to/file/uTorrent.exe"
[06:53] <eyequeue> it's sunday (utc on freenode)
[06:53] <rob> verbose: they all are off compiling gentoo :P
[06:53] <kairu0> wweasel, how far have you gotten
[06:53] <silvaran> verbose: I don't know how to answer that... it's Saturday night here.
[06:53] <verbose> rob: /shudder
[06:54] <eyequeue> Sun Aug 20 04:54:08 UTC 2006
[06:54] <verbose> oh, oops...here too...god i love not having to know what day it is
[06:54] <brent_> can someone help me with winehq
[06:54] <wweasel> well, i don't know what to do. it needs to choose a file to launch it with.  I need it to launch it with wine, but with the argument telling it to use utorrent.
[06:54] <silvaran> verbose: You live in some magical land where you don't need to know what day it is?
[06:54] <brent_> how do i install a game
[06:54] <verbose> silvaran: yeah, self-employed, gave myself a vacation land
[06:54] <silvaran> brent_: What game exactly?
[06:55] <brent_> guild wars
[06:55] <trpr_> silvaran: it aint magic. its called unemployment
[06:55] <brent_> or others
[06:55] <uubuntu> hi any graphical tool to choose between GDM and KDM and to configure my Login screen the resolution is too small and when i scroll the screen moves in the user side it is just fine
[06:55] <brent_> mainly guild wars
[06:55] <silvaran> trpr_: As enticing as it sounds, I think I'l stick with my current, employed state :)
[06:55] <trpr_> silvaran: wait, is today friday or saturday ;)
[06:55] <wweasel> brent_: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[06:56] <wweasel> brent_: have you tried that?
[06:56] <brent_> yes
[06:56] <silvaran> uubuntu: That sounds like a problem with your xorg.conf ... maybe ubuntu can't detect your monitor/video card.
[06:56] <uubuntu> it detected
[06:56] <pianoboy3333> Is firefox 1.5.0.6 going to be released into dapper?
[06:56] <silvaran> trpr_: Uh, depends where you are, I guess... right here, it's Sunday (technically speaking :)
[06:56] <uubuntu> silvaran, it is fine i can set on the user side the resolution
[06:56] <ESPOiG> see we in Australia are so dedicated to Ubuntu we have our own web :P... http://www.ubuntu-au.org/
[06:57] <wweasel> brent_: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=2243
[06:57] <silvaran> uubuntu: So if it's gdm/kdm you're having problems with, have you officially installed kubuntu, or done an apt-get install kubuntu?
[06:57] <rob> ESPOiG: what happen to the old one?
[06:57] <[jb] > why there's no services on my /etc/inetd.conf file? are they in other file?
[06:57] <uubuntu> silvaran, this happend after i choose to use both kde + gnome with GDM
[06:58] <wweasel> brent_: detailed instructions here: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5386
[06:58] <ESPOiG> rob, dunno, i just read about that in a mag and joined up i only been a member for a few weeks :P
[06:58] <brent_> wweasl: i have been here can you help me with like telling me what to press on that link
[06:58] <uubuntu> silvaran, i did so it ask me to use kdm or gdm i select gdm
[06:58] <rob> ESPOiG: yeah, its an issue
[06:58] <eyequeue> [jb] , /etc/services
[06:58] <ESPOiG> ubuntu australia irc channel = #ubuntu-au
[06:58] <silvaran> uubuntu: You'd rather use kdm?
[06:58] <fdsd> what is better kde or gnome?
[06:58] <wweasel> brent_: note that Guild Wars doesn't run too well under wine.
[06:58] <ESPOiG> rob, eh?
[06:59] <wweasel> fdsd: that's a good question, that many will spend hours flaming on.
[06:59] <uubuntu> silvaran, so how to move between them ? now
[06:59] <brent_> ok
[06:59] <fdsd> wweasel, which one is more like linux?
[06:59] <brent_> how do i install it
[06:59] <wweasel> fdsd: Let's just say you'll get a different answer here than in #kubuntu
[06:59] <wweasel> brent_: follow the link I sent you
[06:59] <trpr_> brent_: i was playing guildwards with cedega for awhile. the gameplay was acceptable, except for loadtimes and the heavily populated zones
[06:59] <brent_> ok
[06:59] <wweasel> fdsd: They are equally linux.
[06:59] <M15T3RY0X> hi, is there a program to ban an ip to try to connect a FTP server??
[06:59] <brent_> ok
[07:00] <brent_> but i dont wanna pay yearly for a program
[07:00] <verbose> M15T3RY0X: you can use iptables
[07:00] <rob> ESPOiG: whois both ubuntu-au.org and ubuntu.com.au and you'll find out :)
[07:00] <silvaran> uubuntu: Not sure... I've kind of stuck with the ubuntu default.... I think if you apt-get install kubuntu it should automatically switch to kde, but honestly, you should be able to load both environments from the default install.
[07:00] <fdsd> wweasel, then why do both exsist?
[07:00] <M15T3RY0X> ok ok iptables
[07:00] <verbose> M15T3RY0X: also hosts.allow and hosts.deny
[07:00] <wweasel> brent_: Yeah, trpr_ seems to suggest that Cedega will work. Wine (if you read the page) says that it is unstable.
[07:00] <uubuntu> silvaran, thanks i will ask the question again here :D
[07:00] <[jb] > what's the command to see all the services that i have?
[07:00] <jcan_ras> fdsd: KDE is prettier but takes up more resourses ... guys plz dont flame me
[07:00] <wweasel> fdsd: Because different people like different things. Same reason why Ubuntu and Fedora Core and Suse, etc. exist. Preferences.
[07:01] <uubuntu> hi guyz anyone knows how to switch from GDM to KDM ??????????
[07:01] <silvaran> uubuntu: Good idea... sorry I couldn't help, I just kind of took things as they're published in ubuntu :(
[07:01] <wweasel> jcan_ras: That is simplistic to say the least, unintelligent at most.
[07:01] <silvaran> [jb] : ps -A ? :)
[07:01] <uubuntu> silvaran, its nice of u thanks
[07:01] <fdsd> wweasel, to bad they all dont join together and make the best linux distro ever
[07:01] <ESPOiG> rob, ok
[07:01] <jcan_ras> :P
[07:02] <jcan_ras> i deserved that
[07:02] <silvaran> [jb] : apt-get install sysv-rc-conf
[07:02] <ESPOiG> rob, same people just 2 diff urls
[07:02] <wweasel> jcan_ras: Sorry, the difference between the two is much bigger than that.
[07:02] <wweasel> fdsd: Because the best linux distro for one person isn't hte best for another.
[07:02] <silvaran> [jb] : That's a console-based util to let you edit which services should start up at which runlevel.
[07:02] <trpr_> fdsd: they would never be able to agree on best.. i'm sure if you ask any random developer for a distribution and they will tell you their distro is the best
[07:02] <wweasel> fdsd: The guys here use Gnome. The guys in #kubuntu use KDE>
[07:02] <rob> ESPOiG: ah, no
[07:02] <wweasel> fdsd: The great thing about linux is that you can customize it to what is best for YOU.
[07:02] <[jb] > silvaran, :) tks
[07:02] <rob> ESPOiG: whois them
[07:03] <silvaran> wweasel: But it takes quite a bit of work :)
[07:03] <silvaran> [jb] : Good luck :)
[07:03] <wweasel> silvaran: That's why distros like Ubuntu come with defaults, that work pretty well.
[07:03] <zorba64> uubuntu, sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[07:04] <silvaran> wweasel: Well that's exactly it.  If you don't like it, switch to another distro.  But tell that to the so-called "Joe-sixpack" who buys a computer and assumes the computer = the OS :(
[07:04] <jcan_ras> has anyone ran vmware payer successfully?
[07:04] <_azrael> jcan_ras I have.
[07:04] <_azrael> but not from the apt tree
[07:05] <uubuntu> zorba64, thanks i will try now
[07:05] <silvaran> jcan_ras: I've run the workstation, and server install successfully, try dl'ing the latest direct from vmware.com
[07:05] <wweasel> silvaran: that's why Joe-Sixpack doesn't use linux. Unless his geek friend sets it up for him and says "Click here for internet, click here for e-mail."
[07:05] <_azrael> I couldn't get that one to work, just get the one from the vmware guys. It works fine.
[07:05] <silvaran> wweasel: Good point.  I wish Joe Sixpack could see the Commadore 64, or VIC-20 days.  Then he'd understand... best stick with the washboard...
[07:06] <jcan_ras> _azarel: no setup or config of my needed before install?
[07:06] <jcan_ras> *box
[07:06] <wweasel> silvaran:   :D so true.
[07:06] <TheGame> so
[07:06] <wweasel> silvaran: Anyways, I should go to bed. Good night/day, whatever it is where you are.
[07:06] <_azrael> jcan_ras: Nothing special, no.
[07:06] <silvaran> wweasel: Hehehe, good night :)
[07:07] <jcan_ras> o zeen
[07:07] <_azrael> jcan_ras: Install from the tree, then remove (will set up dependencies)
[07:07] <hush> Hey guys I'm a new Linux ubuntu user as of 3 days ago - got a question for whoever wants to answer it.
[07:07] <jcan_ras> _azrael: makes sense
[07:08] <silvaran> hush: Ask away... hopefully someone will be able to help you :)
[07:08] <cfedde> ask away!
[07:08] <hush> Awesome, thanks cfedde.
[07:08] <verbose> that was an easy one
[07:08] <silvaran> Heh
[07:08] <nso> Whats the command to edit the order the OSs in your boot screen?
[07:09] <Tonren> Hey guys, any way to convert M4A files to OGG or MP3?
[07:09] <silvaran> nso: You likely need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:09] <verbose> nso: sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:09] <nso> ty
[07:09] <nikosapi> Can someone gimmie a hand for compiling dillo?
[07:10] <hush> Does Linux have support from any companies or have any software developers created an open source personal finance managing software, like Quicken or Microsoft Money for Windows ?
[07:10] <_azrael> Tornen: mencoder Converts everything
[07:10] <silvaran> ninko: Repository dillo no good?
[07:10] <jcan_ras> hehe I was reading an article on digg the other day and they say 1 of the differences btn ubuntu and debian is how n00bs are treated and I just saw that plain a while ago :P
[07:10] <silvaran> hush: The best the OSS community has is gnucash ....
[07:10] <_azrael> !kmymoney2 > hush
[07:10] <nikosapi> no, there's something funky with the fonts, plus I want to try the cvs.
[07:11] <hush> Thats true - I read that article as well jcan_ras. You all are very friendly and ready to help all of the time.
[07:11] <verbose> we're actually starving tonight cause there are so few to help :(
[07:11] <silvaran> jcan_ras: Yeah I'm sick of that stuff... I'd love to be able to say, "Hey, everyone should use Linux!!!", but even within the community there are noticable differences between Ubuntu and Debian.
[07:11] <hush> Is it any good silvaran.
[07:11] <crimsun> Tonren: sure, _azrael named one utility; there's also what GSt provides
[07:11] <verbose> nikosapi: what have you done so far and where are you stuck?
[07:11] <verbose> or do you want just a general howto
[07:11] <Tonren> crimsun: _azrael: Thanks!
[07:12] <silvaran> hush: Never tried it personally.  I'd love to say it'll do everything you need, but you need to try it first :(
[07:12] <_azrael> hush: same goes for kmymoney2--just looked it up in the repos, may or may not be good.
[07:12] <silvaran> hush: If it only takes an hour out of your time, it might be good to look at in any case.
[07:12] <hush> cool - any other suggestions or ideas? Does Quicken make a version for Linux - probably not huh?
[07:12] <KrakensDen> don't they have a web based version?
[07:12] <Tonren> _azrael: Isn't mencoder just mplayer's movie encoder?  is there a gui for converting things?
[07:12] <silvaran> hush: Yeah try _azrael's idea too.
[07:13] <hush> I think I will - where should I start.
[07:13] <KrakensDen> one of the big tax software companies does
[07:13] <silvaran> hush: Likely not :).
[07:13] <KrakensDen> that's supposed to work
[07:13] <silvaran> Tonren: mencoder does whatever it has support for.
[07:13] <jcan_ras> i remember being downright FLAMED and scorched the first time I tried to paste lspci in #debian
[07:13] <_azrael> Tornen: mencoder can be used to convert just about any media from one format or another. Unfortunately, there is not a gui.
[07:13] <nikosapi> I run configure and it goes perfectly, then I run make and after a while I get this first error: downloads.cc:34:22: error: fltk/run.h: no such file or dir. But I have libfltk1.1-dev installed!
[07:13] <hush> I looked on Quicken.com and couldn't find anything for Linux, but I must say - the Windows version for Personal Finance 2007 products look very nice!
[07:13] <silvaran> Tonren: So if mplayer can read it, so can mencoder.  And thus, if mplayer can read it, mencoder can likely write it.
[07:14] <silvaran> Tornen: If all else fails, you can try transcode.  But in either case, you'll likely spend a lot of your time reading man pages :(
[07:14] <_azrael> Tonren: And I'm yet to find a video or audio format mencoder lacks support for.
[07:14] <silvaran> jcan_ras: That's what things like pastebin are for.
[07:14] <Tonren> hmmm.
[07:14] <nikosapi> but the ubuntu libfltk package doesn't contain the file run.h.
[07:14] <silvaran> !tell jcan_ras about pastebin
[07:14] <_azrael> I've had a lot of bad times with transcode. Namely it having a tendency to randomly break, but this may be fixed by now.
[07:15] <hush> Do any of you use personal finance software ?
[07:15] <silvaran> Uh... ok... I thoguht there was a bot here... maybe not?
[07:15] <jcan_ras> i know now but as a n00b I didnt and they almost murdered me
[07:15] <verbose> hush: i just use excel
[07:15] <_azrael> !ubotu
[07:15] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:15] <hush> yeah
[07:15] <Madpilot> silvaran, there is, jcan_ras should have gotten a PM from it
[07:15] <jcan_ras> i felt scared to even type after that
[07:15] <Tonren> _azrael: silvaran: I don't quite get it.  Should I be typing something like "mencoder musicfile.m4a > musicfile.mp3"?
[07:15] <_azrael> Silvaran: There is a bot, when you say to tell about, it goes right to the person
[07:16] <Chrono86> is it possible to install parallels on an amd64 system in ubuntu?
[07:16] <silvaran> jcan_ras: Everyone here knows the feeling, trust me... we all weren't born into ubuntu or irc, as much as we'd like to think we were :).
[07:16] <hush> I'm just trying to get myself more organized and I do better with visual representations and graphs etc, that show me all of my information and whats going on, etc.
[07:16] <silvaran> Tonren: Unfortunately you'll have to trial-and-error with the man pages and command line options, I don't have much experience with it :(
[07:16] <_azrael> Tonren: No. The man pages have the specifics, but I'll get you a command for turning whatever into mp3s. one moment.
[07:16] <Tonren> _azrael: Thanks dude
[07:16] <Tonren> silvaran: Thanks.. hopefully between me and _azrael we can figure it out
[07:16] <silvaran> _azrael: OK, I'm used to getting a PM from ubotu saying, "OK, I told <person> about <subject>"
[07:17] <_azrael> silvaran: It stopped doing that a while ago.
[07:17] <hush> azrael: how did you find kmymoney2 in the repo ?
[07:17] <hush> what keyword did you search for ?
[07:17] <silvaran> hush: Try 'apt-cache search mymoney'
[07:18] <Madpilot> silvaran, the bot's been totally rewritten, actually.
[07:18] <Chrono86> hey guys has anybody sucessfuly installed paralles on ubuntu amd64?
[07:18] <Chrono86> parallels
[07:18] <_azrael> azrael@Heaven:~$ apt-cache search money managernkmymoney2 - Personal finance manager for KDErnmyphpmoney - Finance manager written in PHPrnazrael@Heaven:~$
[07:18] <silvaran> Madpilot: Ah OK.  Haven't been here in awhile :(
[07:18] <KrakensDen> Chrono86, I thought that was a OS X app?
[07:18] <_azrael> Of course, myphpmoney probably isn't right for you unless you know server admin.
[07:18] <Chrono86> it works on all systems now
[07:18] <Chrono86> supposedly
[07:18] <KrakensDen> have you tried it?
[07:18] <Chrono86> I downloaded the linux deb install file
[07:18] <KrakensDen> try it and see if it breaks :)
[07:18] <Chrono86> but its i386...but the website says it supports host 64 bit systems
[07:19] <lastnode> !tias
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tias - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <hush> silvaran: thanks, I'm still new at this - I still don't quite understand the repo's and how to find updates and programs. I guess I'm too used to Windows, and having to search the internet for them, rather than having them accessible from the OS.
[07:19] <lastnode> try it and see? :)
[07:19] <KrakensDen> Chrono86, search their site
[07:19] <Chrono86> I did...
[07:19] <KrakensDen> Chrono86, there is probably another binary
[07:19] <KrakensDen> alternatively
[07:19] <silvaran> hush: I feel your pain :)
[07:19] <lastnode> ubotu, tell hush about repos
[07:19] <fdsd> anyone here use a x86 cpu?
[07:19] <KrakensDen> they may only support certain OS' as 64-bit hosts
[07:19] <silvaran> ubotu: tell me about ubotu
[07:19] <silvaran> ubotu: Where you been, dude?
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Where you been, dude? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <Madpilot> fdsd, probably most people here, yeah
[07:20] <silvaran> Hah... boy it really HAS been awhile :)
[07:20] <KrakensDen> fdsd, here
[07:20] <Chrono86> all they say is "Parallels Workstation 2.1 runs successfully on 64-bit platforms if a 32-bit primary OS is installed on it. Support for 64-bit primary and guest OSes is in scope for future versions of Parallels Workstation."
[07:20] <hush> haha cool what is that thing
[07:20] <fdsd> Madpilot, oh cool, I came to the right place
[07:20] <hush> just a bot for ubuntu resources?
[07:20] <etzerd> ?
[07:20] <Madpilot> hush, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto  -- and yes, ubotu is this channel's bot
[07:20] <silvaran> hush: What thing what, ubotu?  From what you can see I'm probably not the best person to explain him/it right now :)
[07:20] <hush> LOL
[07:20] <silvaran> ubotu: Tell me about the meaning of life.
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Tell me about the meaning of life. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:21] <silvaran> !snack
[07:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:21] <Madpilot> hush, ubotu is the most intelligent & useful critter on this channel, bar none :)
[07:21] <hush> Madpilot: Thanks
[07:21] <etzerd> between the two GUI that come with linux, which one is best to use? I mean KDE and GNOME
[07:21] <verbose> nikosapi: try LC_ALL=POSIX dillo (with the one from the repositories installed
[07:21] <KrakensDen> Chrono86, there is your answer
[07:21] <silvaran> Wow, it HAS been awhile.  OK, I'll STFU now :)
[07:21] <Madpilot> silvaran, /msg ubotu msg the bot
[07:21] <KrakensDen> Chrono86, they have no amd64 support :P
[07:21] <KrakensDen> Chrono86, unless you're running a 32 bit operating system
[07:21] <silvaran> OK One last try...
[07:21] <silvaran> !botsnack
[07:21] <ubotu> Yum!
[07:21] <pluma> etzerd: depends on personal opinion.
[07:21] <verbose> nikosapi: also, try running src/dillo from the top directory of the source you downloaded
[07:21] <justforfun> guys, i install JAVA5-jre , but i when run java , it runs this playerdomina@pwnedomina:~$ java -version
[07:21] <justforfun> java version "1.4.2"
[07:21] <justforfun> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)
[07:22] <Chrono86> I read it as they support it running on 64 bit systems as long as it's a 32 bit system running inside it
[07:22] <hush> what do you guys use for IRC ? I'm using the X-IRC thing that I found in ubuntu but I was just curious what else there was that you recommend
[07:22] <justforfun> how can i make to run java jre ?
[07:22] <Tonren> _azrael: Anything on that converty-thing with mencoder, dude?  The manpages have revealed nothing
[07:22] <Tonren> hush: I use Xchat, it's nice.  Kind of spartan to configure
[07:22] <KrakensDen> hush, xchat and irssi are good
[07:22] <torpedo|dog> justforfun: sudo update-alternatives java
[07:22] <farous> justforfun: you mean sun java
[07:22] <etzerd> which one do you pluma?
[07:22] <Madpilot> hush, XChat
[07:22] <justforfun> farous , yes , sun java
[07:22] <Chrono86> here's what they say in the installation manual under requirements "32-bit or 64-bit platform. Note that to run Parallels Workstation 2.1 on 64-bit platform you
[07:22] <Chrono86> should have a 32-bit primary OS installed on it.
[07:22] <Chrono86> "
[07:23] <farous> use torpedo|dog command
[07:23] <justforfun> i install this
[07:23] <_azrael> Tonren: Hmm. I've got it, only it wants a video stream. I may end up just giving you a ffmpeg command instead.
[07:23] <justforfun> sun-java5-jre - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.
[07:23] <hush> Thats what I meant.. I'm using XChat... not X-IRC my bad...
[07:23] <torpedo|dog> justforfun: whoops, not quite.
[07:23] <justforfun> now , i want to run it
[07:23] <KrakensDen> Chrono86, in other words, if you use ubuntu64, it won't work
[07:23] <KrakensDen> Chrono86, at least not in 64 bit mode
[07:23] <farous> justforfun: oh it is sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:23] <Chrono86> I must be reading it wrong
[07:23] <pluma> etzerd: GNOME. IMO GNOME is more like Windows and KDE is more like... MacOS X or something, but both are highly customisable anyway.
[07:24] <justforfun>       1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[07:24] <justforfun> *+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[07:24] <justforfun>       3        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[07:24] <torpedo|dog> justforfun: type '3'
[07:24] <farous> justforfun: yes just select 3 and use the pastebin
[07:24] <farous> for long posts
[07:24] <hush> I really like the way that XChat highlights the names of people who respond - it makes reading so much easier on the eyes. Very cool feature!
[07:24] <verbose> etzerd: just for comparison, i think kde is more like windows so there you go...run both and decide
[07:24] <justforfun> yeah man
[07:24] <KrakensDen> pluma, most people say it the exact opposite way :P
[07:24] <justforfun> now it runs
[07:24] <justforfun> playerdomina@pwnedomina:~$ java -version
[07:24] <justforfun> java version "1.5.0_06"
[07:24] <justforfun> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05)
[07:24] <justforfun> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_06-b05, mixed mode, sharing)
[07:24] <justforfun> :D
[07:24] <Madpilot> justforfun, pastebin next time!
[07:24] <justforfun> thanks
[07:24] <justforfun> sorry men
[07:24] <KrakensDen> honestly the only difference is that KDE puts the bar on the bottom
[07:25] <KrakensDen> and GNOME puts it up top
[07:25] <justforfun> it is a short think
[07:25] <torpedo|dog> justforfun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[07:25] <justforfun> ok men
[07:25] <verbose> haha, yeah, that's the only difference...silly window managers
[07:25] <justforfun> java version "1.5.0_06" is too old ?
[07:25] <silvaran> justforfun: That's pretty recent actually.
[07:25] <torpedo|dog> justforfun: why is it that I keep on being off-by-one? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting if you need it :)
[07:25] <pluma> KrakensDen: Well, GNOME is more like MacOS 9 and KDE is more like WinXP, if you mean that.
[07:26] <KrakensDen> pluma, I think the real problem is that it's a bad analogy
[07:26] <nikosapi> and xfce is just great!
[07:26] <KrakensDen> pluma, although saying 'xfce is like cde' is fairly close
[07:26] <silvaran> KrakensDen: Hahaha I must agree :)
[07:26] <pluma> KrakensDen: Java is like C++.
[07:27] <verbose> firefox is like lynx
[07:27] <etzerd> is it a good Idea to install both at the same time, as you know ubuntu install GNOME by default.
[07:27] <KrakensDen> pluma, no more than it's like D or C or JavaScript
[07:27] <justforfun> now it runs , thanksguys!
[07:27] <pluma> verbose: lynx is like telnet
[07:27] <ttyfscker> verbose:: wtf, how do you et that firefox is like lynx
[07:27] <KrakensDen> ttyfscker, bad analogy day
[07:27] <verbose> ttyfscker: they're both web browsers?
[07:27] <verbose> yes, i'm taking it to the extreme
[07:27] <jcan_ras> hush: I came accross this the other day http://www.appgen.com/aptus/my_books_professional.htm
[07:27] <verbose> ubuntu is like ice cream
[07:27] <KrakensDen> etzerd, if you want
[07:27] <ttyfscker> verbose:: yea, thats about the only thing alike
[07:27] <silvaran> etzerd: You mean KDE and GNOME at the same time?  Technically they won't interfere with one another, but depends on which one you use in your system bootup (kdm/gdm)
[07:28] <pluma> ice cream is like diarrhea.
[07:28] <KrakensDen> etzerd, you'll probably be happier if you just pick one and stick with it
[07:28] <silvaran> pluma: I just had a nasty case of ice cream.
[07:28] <ttyfscker> xfce was originally like cde, its not anymore
[07:28] <ttyfscker> heh
[07:28] <KrakensDen> XFCE is great
[07:28] <pluma> Anyway. Back to serious matters.
[07:28] <_azrael> ffmpeg -i whatever.somext -acodec mp3whatever.mp3
[07:28] <KrakensDen> but the new releases are fairly slow :/
[07:28] <hush> jcan_ras: thanks I'll check it out - learning about the repo's and synaptic package manager right now :)
[07:28] <etzerd> ok guys thanks, I will stick with GNOMe
[07:28] <_azrael> My bad, missed a space
[07:29] <ttyfscker> i can definitely tell that it is bad analogy day
[07:29] <_azrael> Tonren: ffmpeg -i whatever.somext -acodec mp3 whatever.mp3
[07:29] <KrakensDen> _azrael, do you have a link to ffmpeg documentation?
[07:29] <nikosapi> if it wasn't for xfce I couldn't use my old 300mhz notebook (i dont like ice, jwm, etc)
[07:29] <ttyfscker> KrakensDen:: i agree, xfce4 is great..  4.4beta2 is even better
[07:29] <KrakensDen> _azrael, because the manpage is fairly terse
[07:29] <silvaran> ttyfscker: Until someone tries a car analogy, it is never truly bad analogy day.
[07:30] <justforfun> guys , i installed fluxbox , but is default mode dont have icons , how can i add some icons to them ?
[07:30] <KrakensDen> GNOME is like a Ford Excursion
[07:30] <silvaran> nikosapi: If it wasn't for Billl Gates, I would be happy... so what's your point? :)
[07:30] <KrakensDen> justforfun, it's not really designed for icons
[07:30] <verbose> justforfun: i believe there's something called fbdesk
[07:30] <KrakensDen> justforfun, you can run it as the wm inside of gnome or kde though
[07:30] <verbose> but yeah, what KrakensDen said
[07:30] <ttyfscker> KDE is like a bisquit
[07:30] <hush> the different repo'
[07:30] <KrakensDen> KDE is like an ice cube
[07:30] <KrakensDen> all blue
[07:31] <hush> the different repo's are where you can download all diffferent programs and stuff ?
[07:31] <ttyfscker> so ubuntu could be compared to sh*t if you wanna think like that
[07:31] <_azrael> KrakensDen: Not offhand. The manpage was enough to generate the command I needed.
[07:31] <ttyfscker> lol
[07:31] <jcan_ras> i enjoy the best of both worlds KDE apps in Gnome :P
[07:31] <verbose> jcan_ras: same here
[07:31] <Madpilot> Folks, #ubuntu-offtopic is thataway ---> and has space for "X is like Y" chat... :)
[07:31] <Madpilot> hush, yes
[07:31] <ttyfscker> i enjoy the best of both without using them.. xfce
[07:31] <silvaran> Madpilot: Sorry dude.
[07:31] <jcan_ras> right now im using koprtr
[07:31] <jcan_ras> kopete
[07:31] <ttyfscker> Madpilot:: are we bothering you man?
[07:31] <_azrael> ttyfscker: Got ya beat-- e17
[07:32] <verbose> e17 is sexy
[07:32] <Tonren> _azrael: Unsupported codec for output stream #0.0
[07:32] <hush> so it is possible to add more repo's myself? or does it come with all the ones there are like auto updates itself with new ones etc...?
[07:32] <ttyfscker> e17 = eyecandy bloatishness
[07:32] <verbose> i ran it for a little bit
[07:32] <KrakensDen> I'm too afraid to try and compile e17
[07:32] <KrakensDen> ttyfscker, have you ever run enlightenment?
[07:32] <ttyfscker> yes
[07:32] <Madpilot> ttyfscker, just trying to keep this place slightly on-topic
[07:32] <silvaran> hush: There should be a sources.lst on the wiki that has all the repos.
[07:32] <hush> ok
[07:32] <hush> thanks
[07:32] <ttyfscker> Madpilot:: ok ok..
[07:32] <KrakensDen> ttyfscker, it's not bloatishness :P
[07:32] <Madpilot> hush, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[07:32] <justforfun> guys , i installed a 386 kernel , but i have a pentium4 , it's better if i install a 686 ?
[07:33] <KrakensDen> yes
[07:33] <pitaman> Hi. I don't know if this is a common issue, but I've never used Linux before and I downloaded and properly burned the latest i386 ubuntu desktop cd to try it out, but when I try to run the cd, it won't get passed the loading root prompt.
[07:33] <pitaman> I finally thought I found a distro that would be easy to use and I can't even boot the darn thing.
[07:33] <pitaman> Any suggestions, please?
[07:33] <silvaran> justforfun: Maybe slightly.... might as well.
[07:33] <KrakensDen> but it probably won't matter much
[07:33] <ttyfscker> KrakensDen:: the eyecandy stuff is just too much...
[07:33] <hush> lol i'm there - just clicked on it right before you send the link
[07:33] <_azrael> Tonren: Hrm. I'm not sure then...
[07:33] <Tonren> _azrael: hmmm...
[07:33] <farous> justforfun: not that a huge of a diff but is better :)
[07:33] <ttyfscker> KrakensDen:: seems like the e developers focus more on its beauty than on its usage
[07:33] <KrakensDen> pitaman, you check the md5sum?
[07:33] <silvaran> pitaman: What's the exact error message you get when you try to boot it??
[07:33] <justforfun> and i have this version of kernel
[07:33] <justforfun> Linux 2.6.15-26-386
[07:33] <justforfun> should i update ?
[07:34] <KrakensDen> ttyfscker, but you look at it all day
[07:34] <pitaman> well
[07:34] <KrakensDen> ttyfscker, shouldn't it be perty?
[07:34] <pitaman> no error message
[07:34] <ese5> which kernel image do I need for core duo smp?
[07:34] <ttyfscker> KrakensDen:: with some work xfce can look just as pretty as e
[07:35] <silvaran> pitaman: Well yeah, but you should get SOMETHING from your boot process, assuming you've set the BIOS up to boot from the CD-ROM and you've burned the .iso properly.
[07:35] <_azrael> Tonren: Have you installed mplayer codecs?
[07:35] <KrakensDen> ttyfscker, but you don't get that sort of 'high level' pretty
[07:35] <Tonren> _azrael: I'm pretty sure I have.
[07:35] <KrakensDen> ttyfscker, or the very nice performance
[07:35] <pitaman> yes. my bios is set to boot up from a cd and I didn't create a data cd...I created a cd from an image.
[07:35] <SillyZ> q: in xubuntu whats the best way to access a smb windows share?, ubuntu and kubuntu has this feature automagically built in
[07:35] <ttyfscker> KrakensDen:: if you want that high level pretty why arent you using windows + window blinds
[07:36] <KrakensDen> ttyfscker, have you seen that?
[07:36] <KrakensDen> ttyfscker, it looks disgusting
[07:36] <ttyfscker> i have some screenshots of xfce on xubuntu
[07:36] <KrakensDen> ttyfscker, I'd rather use fvwm
[07:36] <ttyfscker> if your interested
[07:36] <silvaran> pitaman: Right... so you leave the CD in your disc drive during bootup, and you get an error message?  What exactly does the message say?
[07:36] <ttyfscker> haha
[07:36] <pitaman> How long do i have to leave it in there?
[07:36] <KrakensDen> so I understand you
[07:37] <KrakensDen> but there is a place for both
[07:37] <ttyfscker> lets exchange screenies
[07:37] <pitaman> I've left it for around 5 to 8 minutes and nothing
[07:37] <_azrael> Tonren: Try this instead: ffmpeg -i input.ext -f mp3 output.mp3
[07:37] <Madpilot> KrakensDen & ttyfscker - please take the chat to #ubuntu-offtopic or PM, please
[07:37] <KrakensDen> Madpilot, sorry
[07:37] <ese5> has anyone with ipw3945 built their own custom kernel?
[07:37] <Tonren> _azrael: Unsupported codec (id=86018) for input stream #0.0
[07:37] <pluma> How would I go about adding a java symlink alternative via update-alternatives manually? sudo update-alternatives --install java-sun java /usr/java/jdk-1.5.0_08/jre/bin/java 1?
[07:37] <verbose> ese5: i have with an ipw2200
[07:37] <KrakensDen> ese5, it doesn't work fine?
[07:38] <ttyfscker> Madpilot:: :(  your running us off when its so silent?  ok
[07:38] <verbose> they use the same driver i believe
[07:38] <pluma> I can't really get much out of its manpage...
[07:38] <ese5> krakensden:  it crashes when compiling
[07:38] <Madpilot> ttyfscker, it's not that quiet...
[07:38] <ttyfscker> #  linuxsociety  KrakensDen
[07:38] <nikosapi> thanks a lot, bye!
[07:38] <pitaman> :(
[07:38] <ese5> krakensden:  undefined references to ieee80211 stuff
[07:38] <illusina> So I have a really strange bug. My "x" key no longer works. I was messing with the keyboard shortcuts and I think accidentally assigned "x" to a shortcut. I then saved it, and moved out
[07:38] <illusina> Then typing later, I realized "x" doesn't work
[07:38] <_azrael> Tonren: OK, something's seriously missing from your ffmpeg
[07:38] <KrakensDen> ese5, check their website
[07:39] <_azrael> Tonren: Try reinstalling libffmpeg?
[07:39] <ese5> krakensden: whose?
[07:39] <Tonren> _azrael: Weird.  Can you dump a list of packages on me that I can download?
[07:39] <illusina> So I set the config within the global keyboard settings"
[07:39] <KrakensDen> ese5, I think you may have to download intel's wlan stack
[07:39] <KrakensDen> ese5, the ipw3945 guys
[07:39] <illusina> But it's still broken :|
[07:39] <ese5> :-/
[07:39] <CyDrive> Can someone help me my sound no longer works for some reason i didnt install anything new either can someone please help me
[07:39] <_azrael> Tonren: I just converted to ogg and back to mp3 with the type of command I gave you.
[07:39] <Tonren> _azrael: That package doesn't exist in my repos?
[07:39] <_azrael> Tonren: Hrm. Maybe it's working because I have svn mplayer, 1sec
[07:39] <hush> hey guys in my Software Preferences > Installation Media > Channels , there are channels in there that say Ubuntu 5.10 (binary) and (source), etc.. should I delete those and just keep the ones that say Ubuntu 6.06 LTS ?
[07:39] <ese5> krakensden: but why would ubuntu patch a broken kernel?
[07:40] <jcan_ras> CyDrive : check if your mixer is muted
[07:40] <_azrael> Tonren: can you pm me or pastebin me the output of :ffmpeg -formats
[07:40] <CyDrive> yes i checked i and its not muted
[07:40] <farous> CyDrive: aplay /usr/share/sounds/gaim/send.wav
[07:40] <pitaman> Has anyone had the same problem that I have had trying to boot the desktop cd?
[07:40] <verbose> ese5: http://ipw2200.sf.net has latest ieee80211 stack, driver and firmware
[07:40] <farous> CyDrive: and close anything that might be using the sound device
[07:41] <verbose> ese5: i'm using those with 2.6.17
[07:41] <Madpilot> hush, why do you have old sources? Is this a clean install of 6.06?
[07:41] <hush> yes lol
[07:41] <hush> from the Live CD
[07:41] <hush> I wondered the same thing
[07:41] <pitaman> yes
[07:41] <CyDrive> nothing did not work
[07:41] <ese5> verbose: but where would I put it as far as compiling the kernel
[07:41] <farous> CyDrive: lsof /dev/dsp
[07:41] <Madpilot> hush, have you run any 'helper' scripts that might have screwed with your sources?
[07:41] <ese5> verbose: i have a tar of the ieee80211 1.1.14
[07:42] <Tonren> _azrael: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21170
[07:42] <CyDrive> i ran the command but what should it do exactly?
[07:42] <verbose> ese5: in the README's it says to not compile the in-tree ieee80211 or intel driver
[07:42] <hush> Madpilot: there are a lot of them too.. several different 5.10 binary, source, updates, backports, etc..and the 1 ubuntu 6.06 at the very bottom
[07:42] <farous> CyDrive: will tell you what is using the oss sound dev
[07:42] <Ghost_Printer> !automatix
[07:42] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[07:42] <Tonren> _azrael: Gotta run.  if you figure it out, can you e-mail me?  maxcantor@gmail.com
[07:43] <Tonren> _azrael: Thanks for your help dude
[07:43] <hush> madpilot: not that I know of.. no helper scripts
[07:43] <verbose> ese5: all the information should be in the README of the driver source
[07:43] <CyDrive> ummm it gave me nothing
[07:43] <Madpilot> hush, you didn't run automatix or something awful like that?
[07:43] <farous> CyDrive: lsof /dev/snd/
[07:43] <farous> CyDrive: and that is for the alsa sound dev
[07:43] <hush> madpilot: nope
[07:43] <farous> sound sys
[07:43] <hush> whats that
[07:43] <ese5> verbose: yeah but I already tried compiling 2.6.17.8 without the ipw3945 and then installing it afterwards
[07:43] <ese5> verbose: and the wep/wpa wouldn't work
[07:43] <pitaman> Sorry for intterupting, but iis there anyone that can help me or point me in the right direction regarding not being able to boot up from the desktop/live cd?
[07:43] <tyler_d> slow bittorrent downloads.... nat = ok program = azureus, torrent = good, changed the port, looking for other input?
[07:43] <CyDrive> It still gave me nothing
[07:43] <ese5> verbose: i screwed with it for 2 days
[07:43] <silvaran> Madpilot: "awful"'s a good way to put it.
[07:43] <ese5> verbose: and i've given up
[07:43] <hush> Madpilot: I've only had it for a few days
[07:44] <farous> CyDrive: is it a laptop
[07:44] <CyDrive> yes it is a laptop
[07:44] <Madpilot> hush, very strange. Do the following for me: open Applications->Accessories->Terminal, type "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" w/o the ""
[07:44] <hush> can I delete them and just leave the Ubuntu 6.06 LTS one?
[07:44] <hush> okay
[07:44] <farous> CyDrive: does it have a bottom to mute the sound for it work indep of the main sound control
[07:44] <Madpilot> hush, we're going to fix your sources.list
[07:45] <silvaran> !pastebin
[07:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:45] <verbose> tyler_d: how many seeds and peers are there?
[07:45] <hush> ok did it
[07:45] <CyDrive> No i dont have a mute button just 2 buttons to control volume wich i tend to use but its the same as going into the mixer and changing the master
[07:45] <hush> got a sources.list window open now
[07:45] <Madpilot> hush, once gedit opens, copy everything out of it into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste ONLY THE URL of your pastebin here
[07:46] <pitaman> no. Its a AMD Athlon xp 3000 nforce2 cchipset, dvd drive/burner on 1 ide channel, hd on the 2nd channel + pci promise controller wih second hd
[07:46] <farous> CyDrive: try to use them sometimes they work indep they do that here
[07:46] <pitaman> I've neveer used linux...so I'm not very linux savy
[07:46] <CyDrive> That actually worked thank you very much for your help i appreciate it alot thank you
[07:46] <hush> ok so paste the source.list file text into that website and then give you the link to it ?
[07:47] <farous> CyDrive: the last thing i can think of is either you are using esd sound sys. or that you do not have the sound modules loaded
[07:47] <farous> CyDrive: cool
[07:47] <silvaran> Argh... when's GNOME going to get rid of the ESD dependency?
[07:47] <Madpilot> hush, yes, that pastebin website will give you a unique URL, with a long number at the ned
[07:47] <Madpilot> s/ned/end
[07:48] <silvaran> Flanders!
[07:49] <tyler_d> verbose: on which torrent?
[07:49] <tyler_d> verbose: over 400 on all of them
[07:49] <verbose> tyler_d: the one that's going slowly...
[07:49] <tyler_d> verbose: they all are
[07:49] <hush> madpilot: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21171
[07:49] <pitaman> ok...I can get the live cd to boot and no one is trying to help me. As far as first impressions of trying to learn linux...this isn't going very well.
[07:50] <tyler_d> verbose: just says that its not connecting to peers?
[07:50] <tyler_d> pitaman: can you install windows?
[07:50] <silvaran> pitaman: People are trying... just without success..... :(
[07:50] <verbose> tyler_d: i'd try using something other than azureus, but i'm prejudiced against that program
[07:50] <Madpilot> hush, are you *sure* you're running 6.06? That's a pure 5.04 (Breezy) sources.list
[07:50] <hush> pitaman: If I can do it you can do it!
[07:50] <hush> um...?
[07:50] <hush> i think?
[07:50] <tyler_d> verbose: same results with bittorrent
[07:51] <hush> i'm pretty sure i am.. is there another way to find out
[07:51] <jcan_ras> pitaman: is it the dapper 6.06
[07:51] <tyler_d> verbose: any other program you would like me to try out?
[07:51] <pitaman> how did you do it, hush?
[07:51] <Madpilot> hush, in that terminal, do "lsb_release -a"
[07:51] <pitaman> jcan: yes
[07:51] <hush> I downloaded the Ubuntu ISO from the internet and played around on the Live CD before clicking on Install
[07:52] <jcan_ras> pitaman: u said i loaded up the live installation?
[07:52] <johnnyg> good evening. I purchased a linksys wireless G card. When I boot, neither ifconfig nor System->Networking show it. However, when I run $>sudo modprobe ndiswrapper  Password:<root pass> my system does see it. I messed around with getting my centrino wireless going and failed previously. Should I have to involve ndiswrapper to get my linksys wlan0 going? If so, how do I set it so I dont have to issue the command each time I boot?
[07:52] <jcan_ras> *it
[07:52] <pitaman> That is what I'm trying to do. I did that, but the darn cd doesn't want to boot past loading root
[07:52] <tyler_d> verbose: what program do you recommend? I would love to try it.... not overly impressed with Azureus thus far
[07:53] <verbose> tyler_d: i use bit tornado
[07:53] <_azrael> tyler_d: If you can deal with ncurses interface, rtorrent
[07:53] <hush> madpilot: adam@adam-desktop:~$ lsb_release -a
[07:53] <hush> No LSB modules are available.
[07:53] <hush> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[07:53] <hush> Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[07:53] <hush> Release:        6.06
[07:53] <hush> Codename:       dapper
[07:53] <hush> adam@adam-desktop:~$
[07:53] <jcan_ras> pitaman: is this the 1st ubuntucd u r running on that pc
[07:53] <Madpilot> hush, ouch, that should have been pastebinned too
[07:53] <pitaman> yes
[07:53] <_azrael> !paste > hush
[07:54] <hush> Sorry about that :(
[07:54] <tyler_d> verbose: installing
[07:54] <tyler_d> verbose: gimme 2 seconds
[07:54] <Madpilot> hush, but in any case, your sources.list is pure Breezy, but lsb_release says Dapper... I've no idea what's up there...
[07:54] <hush> madpilot: do i need to reinstall Linux ?
[07:54] <Madpilot> hush, you utterly sure you didn't run automatix or anything like that? Use some tutorial that said "Use these sources"?
[07:54] <hush> what is Breezy?
[07:54] <Madpilot> hush, no, it should be fixable
[07:55] <hush> Nope.. didn't do anything
[07:55] <Madpilot> hush, Breezy is the previous release of Ubuntu - Ubuntu 5.04 Breezy Badger
[07:55] <jcan_ras> pitaman: try running it in text mode, i think u press esc at bootup
[07:55] <tyler_d> verbose: how do I load things into that?
[07:55] <hush> after I installed i ran all the updates it told me to do and thats all
[07:55] <pitaman> then what?
[07:56] <hush> I guess it is possible I could have installed something from a repo or from the auto updates that I shouldn't have?
[07:56] <pitaman> Are test menus? or do I have to put in a command or something?
[07:56] <Schalken> is there somewhere where i can see a list of new features in Gaim 2.0?
[07:56] <silvaran> Folks I'm outta here.  Good to see the Ubuntu scene is alive and well.  Night folks :).
[07:56] <jcan_ras> pitaman: maybe itll load it then otherwise maybe somn is wrong with the cd
[07:57] <verbose> tyler_d: i save my torrents to ~ and open bit tornado from applications -> internet -> bit tornado client then browse to the .torrent file
[07:57] <hush> madpilot: what do you suggest I do - Is there an easy way out of this mess?
[07:58] <pitaman> ok. let me try again and see.
[07:58] <pitaman> Thanks for at least trying. I was really excited to try Linux for a non Linux guy like me. Hopefully it will work. Maybe it is just something with this 6.06 release
[07:58] <Madpilot> hush, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17674 <-- known-good Dapper sources.list. Paste this into your sources.list, save & close it.
[07:58] <r0bby> !bug
[07:58] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[07:58] <jcan_ras> pitaman: try ordering some, it might take a while but its worth the wait
[07:59] <NineTeen67Comet> I've got an issue I've tried to resolve in #xorg with no answer. I've got two vid cards (agp and pci). Two monitors to the AGP and one to the PCI .. No matter what I try I can only get two at a time. Currently one on each .. here's my xorg.conf .. help? .. http://pastebin.ca/140049
[07:59] <pitaman> ok thanks jcan. I apreciate it
[08:00] <flubs> Can anyone tell me how to edit my sources.list file?  When I try to do it in VI it says I can't save cuz it's read only
[08:00] <ese5> the ubuntu kernel package is completely broken
[08:01] <stardust> do sudo /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:01] <_azrael> flubs: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:01] <stardust> oops i forgot vim
[08:01] <farous> ese5: be more specific
[08:01] <jcan_ras> ok guys blessings see unu inna di latas. IRIE Jamaica :P
[08:01] <flubs> I don'
[08:01] <ese5> farous: everytime i try to compile i get an error, so i remove support for that and compile again,  and get a different error
[08:01] <cello_rasp> how does one stop antialiasing text in icewm???
[08:02] <flubs> sorry, I don't care how it gets edited, I just borked my gedit so I can't use the text editor
[08:02] <ese5> firs it was ipw3945 with undefined references to ieee80211 crap
[08:02] <cello_rasp> flubs nano
[08:02] <Madpilot> hush, after you've saved the new sources.list, restart Synaptic & hit the Reload button
[08:02] <farous> ese5: so it is you who do not know how to compile the kernel :) now there are howtos on the forums for that
[08:02] <_azrael> flubs: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:02] <tyler_d> verbose: didn't show up in internet aps?
[08:02] <ese5> farous:  how is it I don't know how to compile the kernel?
[08:03] <farous> ese5: how is it you are getting all those failed compilation
[08:03] <flubs> _azrael: Yeah, just tried that...seems to be working
[08:03] <farous> ese5: and speak in publick and do not harrase or insult in pm again
[08:03] <farous> !ops
[08:03] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[08:04] <DBO> farous?
[08:04] <farous> ese5: has just insulted me in pm
[08:04] <farous> no reason except i am trying to help him
[08:04] <nalioth> farous: that is not an !ops issue
[08:04] <Madpilot> ese5, what's up?
[08:04] <ese5> farous:  i didn't insult you,  I told you not to be a jerk
[08:04] <nalioth> farous: type /ignore NICK
[08:04] <Hobbsee> farous: ?
[08:04] <nalioth> Hobbsee: Madpilot all sorted
[08:04] <farous> ese5: and how about the f word
[08:05] <DBO> kids, this is not the place to fight
[08:05] <farous> dbo i am not a kid i am a univ prof
[08:05] <DBO> farous, I was being lighthearted
[08:05] <farous> and never though helping people here will end up like that
[08:05] <farous> ese5: again publick
[08:05] <nalioth> farous: one never knows when the helping hand will be bitten
[08:05] <Madpilot> farous, like nalioth said, /ignore
[08:06] <farous> nalioth: ok thanx
[08:06] <farous> sorry first time to experience that
[08:06] <_azrael> Also farous, as you are helping him, just cease to do so if he insults you--it's a punishment in and of itself.
[08:06] <farous> sorry for the disturbance i think its time to leave
[08:06] <ese5> jeez
[08:06] <hush> madpilot: Thanks MAN! it's running updates now. :)
[08:06] <ese5> if that guy is a univ professor .........
[08:06] <hush> now it's done - anything else?
[08:07] <tyler_d> new torrent client recommendations??
[08:07] <trace> yola! I needaaa helpaaah!
[08:07] <Madpilot> hush, hit the "Mark all Upgrades" button in Synaptic
[08:07] <hush> ktorrent
[08:07] <tyler_d> with gui preferably?
[08:08] <tyler_d> trace: with what?
[08:08] <_azrael> rtorrent ftw (jk, lacks gui)
[08:08] <SillyZ> gmorinin
[08:08] <hush> madpilot: libkrb53 - libmagick9 - rar
[08:08] <_azrael> !ask > trace
[08:08] <Madpilot> hush, is that what's got upgrades? Or what?
[08:08] <ese5> i can't get the ubuntu kernel to compile at all
[08:08] <hush> i believe so
[08:09] <hush> those are the 3 it listed
[08:09] <hush> so i marked them
[08:09] <SillyZ> how does one decide between, gnome, kde or xfce, Ive had em all isntall and each has its own unique features....
[08:09] <_azrael> ese5: Why do you feel the need to compile one? There are binaries available...
[08:09] <ese5> first it crapped out when it got to my ipw3945 driver ... so i removed it ...  not it's undefined reference to acpi_in_suspend :-/
[08:09] <Madpilot> hush, generally, you can let the upgrade manager do it's thing
[08:10] <charliehan1> how do I get headphone output to work on 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller? Works under Windoz.
[08:10] <trace> :)
[08:10] <Madpilot> SillyZ, flip a coin
[08:10] <ese5> _azrael: because i need one with smp for core duo
[08:10] <_azrael> ese5: Odd. I'm using core duo, and I've had no issues getting the smp to go...
[08:10] <SillyZ> Madpilot ehehe
[08:10] <PyroManiak> Anyone know how to fix the "jumpy mouse" reaction?
[08:10] <ese5> _azreael: with the stock kernel?
[08:11] <ese5> _azrael: or did you install some other prebuilt image
[08:11] <_azrael> ese5: I'm using stock kernel, and while I haven't explicitly checked for smp, I'm getting the performance I'd expect.
[08:11] <ese5> _azrael: do cat /proc/cpuinfo
[08:11] <ese5> _azrael: do you see two processors (0 and 1)
[08:12] <tyler_d> hush: keeps saying stalled?
[08:12] <_azrael> ese5: Nope. So I guess no smp support on.
[08:12] <hush> stalled?
[08:12] <ese5> _azrael: yeah.. see
[08:12] <ese5> _azreael:  so you're only using one core right now
[08:12] <joemauch> how do i give my user permission to access root-mounted filesystems?
[08:12] <tyler_d> hush: under status...
[08:13] <_azrael> ese5: In that case, I'll try to compile myself, tell ya what I find out.
[08:13] <hush> um no
[08:13] <r0bby> !info libglib2.0-0
[08:13] <ubotu> libglib2.0-0: The GLib library of C routines. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 468 kB, installed size 1020 kB
[08:13] <hush> did I say it did, I may have misunderstood
[08:13] <tyler_d> hush: been having big issues with all of them... really slow, or not connecting at all... tried several different clients, checked torrents, changed ports... any suggestions?
[08:13] <hush> oh torrents?
[08:14] <tyler_d> hush: yes lol
[08:14] <hush> my fault i was thinking something else
[08:14] <trace> Heya, I've got ubuntu on my laptop, but am using the vga output to go to a 1440x900 monitor. Problem is, my laptop monitor likes to push 1024x768 and it's applying that to my external monitor. Is there anything I can do to change the resolution?
[08:14] <hush> i use utorrent with winXP, someone recommended ktorrent for linux
[08:14] <tyler_d> hush: s'all good, any help at this point is appreciated
[08:14] <alexcamilo> Hello, I followed the instructions on this page: http://lunapark6.com/?p=1235&cp=4 to install XGL. and when i finished i get an error when running "xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us" it is "xmodmap: ubable to open display ''" then when i run the shell script in the final step which contains #!/bin/bash
[08:14] <alexcamilo> gnome-window-decorator & compiz replace gconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place switcher & i get an error "(gnome-window-decorator:4880): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: compiz.real: Couldn't open display"
[08:14] <_azrael> ese5: not tried it yet, but what about linux-686-smp kernel?
[08:14] <Linuturk> hush, I really like Transmission
[08:14] <alexcamilo> i have installed nvidia drivers and my card is supported.
[08:14] <Linuturk> hush, search the forums for install instructions
[08:15] <hush> transmission - torrent?
[08:15] <Linuturk> hush, yes, and it works great
[08:15] <hush> awesome thanks man!
[08:15] <alexcamilo> and i'm using dapper 6.06 freshly installed and upgraded
[08:15] <hush> Is there any way I can get my torrents and files off of WinXP so that I can continue torrenting on Linux? or am I screwed?
[08:16] <Linuturk> yes, you can
[08:16] <Linuturk> hush, get the torrent files and the data that has already been downloaded
[08:16] <flubs> Does anyone know of a way to reset all the system files but leave all my data in tact?
[08:16] <Linuturk> hush, put the data in a directory in your /home
[08:16] <hush> linuturk: I'm new, don't know how to get the files :(
[08:16] <hush> 3 days new :)
[08:17] <Linuturk> hush, put your torrent files in a directory inside a subdirectory of your torrent data
[08:17] <Linuturk> hush, after you install transmission, point it to your torrent-data directory
[08:17] <hush> my torrents are in winXP tho not linux
[08:18] <Linuturk> hush, open your torrent files with Transmission, it should check the existing data, and continue the downloads
[08:18] <Linuturk> hush, first, copy over my instructions
[08:18] <tyler_d> Linuturk: how do I update my lists, after editing my sources file
[08:18] <Linuturk> hush, next, search the ubuntu forums for Transmission for install instructions and install it
[08:19] <Linuturk> hush, do that, and we'll talk about your torrent data and files. Are you Dual-Booting
[08:19] <Linuturk> ?
[08:19] <hush> how do I grab my files off of my winxp HDD and place them into my Linux HDD :( ?
[08:19] <Linuturk> tyler_d, sudo apt-get update
[08:20] <Linuturk> hush, are you dual booting? is it on a seperate machine?
[08:20] <hush> dual booting
[08:20] <Linuturk> hush, do you see your window's drive under Places > Computer
[08:20] <Linuturk> ?
[08:20] <Jahooty> are the setup tools the same in ubuntu as they are in xubuntu?
[08:21] <flubs> What is the command to install something and all necessary dependancies?
[08:21] <tyler_d> Linuturk: ty...
[08:21] <_azrael> flubs: sudo apt-get install packagename
[08:21] <Linuturk> hush, did you install Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[08:22] <Linuturk> tyler_d, np
[08:22] <hush> ubuntu
[08:22] <flubs> _asrael: I have been trying that for Samba and SSH but it tells me it's not going to continue because the packages have unmet dependencies
[08:22] <Linuturk> hush, do you see your windows file system?
[08:22] <_azrael> flubs: Can you dump the output to a pastebin?
[08:22] <ChakRa> Linuturk sorry to interrupt but is tranmission the software where u put all the torrents in a torrent folder and it auto download em?
[08:22] <hush> I believe so, would I see my Linux HDD too or just winxp HDD
[08:23] <flubs> _azrael: is it just pastebin.com?  I have never used it before
[08:23] <clever> how would i see which package owns a certain file?
[08:23] <Jahooty> yeah, pastebin.com
[08:23] <tyler_d> Linuturk: installed it.. sorry following along here.... doesn't want to open?
[08:23] <_azrael> !paste > flubs
[08:23] <Linuturk> ChakRa, That's what I do, yes. It doesn't autodownload them, but it will restart the downloads after you have to restart. That's why I'm using it. That and azureus sucks on ubuntu (bloated)
[08:23] <flubs> haha
[08:24] <Linuturk> tyler_d, what do you mean doesn't open?
[08:24] <clever> Linuturk: yep azureus is bloated
[08:24] <ChakRa> i know a guy who had a setup once where he used to put all the torrents in a folder and the software will download it auto.
[08:24] <ChakRa> ah ic Linuturk
[08:24] <hush> linuturk: i see floppy drive - cdrw drive - 74.5GB Volume - HP Printer - Filesystem
[08:24] <tyler_d> Linuturk: click... doesn't run
[08:24] <rayna> hi, can someone please tell me how to enable VNC/remote desktop on a ubuntu machine without having access to gnome? I have ssh access only, and i need to enable VNC so that I can connect
[08:24] <_azrael> rayna: x11vnc
[08:24] <Jahooty> i'm having a hard time getting my wireless to work in xubuntu.  it seems to have drivers and recognize the device but i can't make the device connect to my network
[08:24] <_azrael> rayna: If you don't have it, it's in the apt tree, just install it.
[08:24] <rayna> _azrael, what do i do with that?
[08:24] <_azrael> rayna: sudo apt-get install x11vnc
[08:25] <ChakRa> yeah i am using utorrent on dapper which is nice but that auto feature will be l337zors ~__~
[08:25] <rayna> _azrael, thanks
[08:25] <_azrael> rayna: then run it from command line, it'll set up a vnc server.
[08:25] <clever> _azrael: do you know how to search apt to see which pakage owns a certain file?
[08:25] <_azrael> rayna: man x11vnc for info on passwords, etc.
[08:25] <rayna> _azrael, cheers
[08:25] <Linuturk> tyler_d, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220149&highlight=Transmission << is that the instructions you followed?
[08:25] <_azrael> clever: No. But if you tell me the file, i can take a guess.
[08:25] <rayna> _azrael, what about the default one that comes with ubuntu? when you go into gnome you can just tick a box that says enable vnc
[08:25] <clever> the file is hamachi.ko
[08:25] <rayna> _azrael, is there a way to enable that via command line?
[08:25] <clever> i have 3 copys
[08:25] <tyler_d> Linuturk: yes it is
[08:26] <clever> /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/hamachi.ko
[08:26] <clever> /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/net/hamachi.ko
[08:26] <clever> /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/hamachi.ko
[08:26] <Linuturk> tyler_d, did you use the deb?
[08:26] <Linuturk> !paste > clever
[08:26] <clever> just wondering if its part of a certain pakage
[08:26] <clever> if it was more then 3 lines i would have used a pastebin
[08:26] <hush> Linuturk: i see floppy drive - cdrw drive - 74.5GB Volume - HP Printer - Filesystem
[08:26] <Linuturk> hush, one second
[08:26] <clever> as ubotu told me its for LARGE pastes:P
[08:26] <tyler_d> Linuturk: yes
[08:26] <hush> Linuturk: k
[08:26] <_azrael> rayna: I do not know. I use x11vnc from when I used gentoo :)
[08:27] <rayna> _azrael, ok thanks
[08:27] <Linuturk> hush, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[08:27] <rayna> anyone else know how to enable the default VNC server via ssh?
[08:28] <Linuturk> tyler_d, got me. the deb worked out of the box for me . . . post in the thread and see if the author of the thread can help you
[08:28] <Ropechoborra> !paste
[08:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:28] <tyler_d> Linuturk: I'm going to try loggin back in... we will see
[08:28] <Ross> hello fellow ubuntu users...
[08:29] <_azrael> clever: hamachi.ko is a kernel module
[08:29] <waxhead> hi everyone
[08:29] <carthik> rayna, that one is vino - read man vino
[08:29] <_azrael> It is probably owned by linux-restricted-modules-kernelversion
[08:29] <waxhead> what are people using for mp3 encoding?
[08:29] <hush> Madpilot: Thank you for your help bro - I really do appreciate it! You were very helpful!
[08:29] <flubs> _azrael: Ok, got the screen dump posted on the pastebin
[08:29] <waxhead> sound juicer is producing huge files...
[08:29] <clever> ahhh
[08:29] <ardchoille> Will I get a better display by commenting out dri or glx in xorg.conf?
[08:29] <Madpilot> hush, no problem. I've still got no idea how your sources got that messed up...
[08:29] <clever> any idea how i would use that kernel module _azrael
[08:29] <carthik> waxhead, you can use soundjuicer - check and change the prefs
[08:29] <Ross> I'm somewhat new to linux, and I'm trying to install GCC...can someone point me to a website to do this, or any advice?
[08:30] <Madpilot> waxhead, got it producing .flac for you?
[08:30] <_azrael> clever: sudo modprobe hamachi
[08:30] <rayna> carthik, No manual entry for vino
[08:30] <Madpilot> Ross, install build-essential
[08:30] <clever> and be able to control it
[08:30] <flubs> _azrael: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21176
[08:30] <clever> its a vpn client program
[08:30] <waxhead> carthik, I have... from settings on the net, and I still get 43meg mp3
[08:30] <Ross> where is build-essential?
[08:30] <waxhead> Madpilot, yeah, ogg, flac etc... but the phone plays mp3...
[08:31] <flaino> alguem ae?
[08:31] <flaino> :D
[08:31] <hush> Madpilot: That was pretty cool wasn't it, LOL. I don't have a clue either. Am I allowed to say "It wasn't ME" lol I've only had it for 3 days and I've barely done ANYTHING on it - too scared to mess with anything but I'm learning quickly.
[08:31] <Madpilot> Ross, install it thru Synaptic, it's on the standard Ubuntu repos
[08:31] <Ross> ahh
[08:31] <Madpilot> hush, well, it probably *was* you, actually, but I'll accept that you have no idea how you did it ;)
[08:32] <_azrael> waxhead: ffmpeg -i input.ext -f mp3 output.mp3
[08:32] <hush> Madpilot: Awesome - Thanks! :)
[08:32] <_azrael> flubs: Have you messed around with sources.list?
[08:32] <waxhead> I installed banshee, but the gstreamer libs' aren't found either...
[08:32] <carthik> rayna, turns out it is automatically started with each session. Please try x11vnc or tightvnc for a better vnc that dies not depend on a running GNOME session, and has a man page :)
[08:32] <Ross> Madpilot, thanks...
[08:32] <flubs> _azrael: I ran automatix and I think it borked something majorly
[08:32] <Madpilot> waxhead, have you enabled the various bits needed to play mp3?
[08:33] <rayna> carthik, thank u, however it is currently disabled, is there a config file i can edit to make it start with each session?
[08:33] <waxhead> Madpilot, in banshee or soundjuicer?
[08:33] <flubs> _azrael: But I went to the source-o-matic and remade a default sources.list and replaced the 'broken' one and it still gives me that error
[08:33] <Madpilot> waxhead, well, in Ubuntu generally - once done, it should work everywhere
[08:33] <carthik> rayna, don't know, can't find that out - it seems to rely on using the gui to change options. Like I said, please use something else
[08:33] <_azrael> flubs: OK, simple, we'll have that fixed quickly.
[08:33] <rayna> carthik, ok thx
[08:33] <_azrael> flubs: sudo apt-get update
[08:34] <_azrael> flubs: then try
[08:34] <pluma> How come the Thunderbird and Firefox versions in the repository are unbranded? I take it that has to do with the trademark restrictions imposed by Mozilla, but are there any actual differences between those and the ones for download? Other than that the updates lag behind, that is.
[08:34] <_azrael> flubs: btw, stay away from automatix, it breaks stuff.
[08:34] <waxhead> Madpilot, yeah, that's what I thought... but it just isn't happening...
[08:34] <carthik> rayna, I got my info from /usr/share/doc/vino/README and README.Debian
[08:34] <waxhead> it's frustrating as hoary and breezy it all worked fine...
[08:34] <rayna> carthik, just reading that now, thanks :D
[08:35] <_azrael> waxhead: If that stuff is failing, maybe:
[08:35] <waxhead> after some setup, but dapper, just isn't working
[08:35] <Madpilot> waxhead, hmm, I always rip to .ogg, so I don't know the details - but at one point I did have SJ set up to rip to mp3... check the wiki again
[08:35] <_azrael> !easyubuntu > waxhead
[08:35] <flubs> _azrael: that screen dump was from directly after I ran a sudo apt-get update...
[08:35] <_azrael> (they've got codec installs that are how I got my full mp3 support)
[08:35] <_azrael> flubs: OK, do you have alot of time?
[08:35] <_azrael> flubs: Not time to be punching things in, but time to wait?
[08:35] <DFM> I need some advice on installing gnome control center.
[08:36] <_azrael> flubs: I have a full system reset to current repos command, but it takes a while to run.
[08:36] <_azrael> flubs: And I mean a _long_ while.
[08:36] <flubs> _azrael: haha, like start it and go to sleep long time to run?
[08:36] <DFM> when I try and install using a package manager it says "BREAK" install
[08:36] <flubs> _azrael: cuz that would be great :-D
[08:36] <pluma> Also, how long do repository version lag behind, and is there something one can do about it (e.g. manual update)?
[08:37] <Linuturk> _azrael, a full system reset?
[08:37] <DFM> it won't let me install it and I don't know where to look for what might be the problem
[08:37] <_azrael> Linuturk: Essentially, it looks for all packages in the system, and does apt-get install --reinstall on each of them
[08:37] <erpo> Hi all. I need to connect to a windows machine running ultravnc from a linux laptop. The ultravnc server is using the AES encryption plugin. How can I do this?
[08:37] <_azrael> Linuturk: Fabulous for purging stuff from old repos you don't want on there.
[08:37] <cyphase> http://blog.cyphase.com/2006/08/19/strange-bug-in-gnomes-recent-documents-menu-in-ubuntu/
[08:38] <_azrael> flubs: dpkg -l | grep '^ii' | awk '{print $2}' | xargs apt-get install --reinstall --force-yes -y
[08:38] <flubs> erpo: I've done ultravnc into a linux box but I am not sure about the other way around
[08:39] <_azrael> flubs: And prepare to wait a _long_ time.
[08:39] <_azrael> Linuturk: See how it works?
[08:40] <pluma> Anyone?
[08:40] <flubs> _azrael: it said could not open lock file even when i did a sudo and entered my password
[08:40] <davidrincon2006> hey guys i've got a mate who has an ubuntu install, and hes done some strange update and now apt is stuffed. i get this error message could not open lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock any idea what i could do to fix this? any generic apt fixing solutions
[08:40] <carthik> _azrael I dont see the benefit in that, since all packages are already uptodate in a system that has been upgraded? And it doesn't remove any packages?
[08:40] <nopi> woiiiii
[08:41] <_azrael> carthik: It does 2 things. 1.) In his case, he's got some packages that are further ahead (came frome edgy) that are messing with his dependencies
[08:41] <flubs> carthik: I'm trying it cuz Automatix borked my system
[08:41] <pluma> I can't believe I spent 8 hours setting up eclipse and java. Where'd the night go? Why is it noon already?
[08:41] <_azrael> carthik: 2.) If you've messed with any of the libs, or anything like that, it restores all the packages to how they should be.
[08:41] <_azrael> flubs: That means you're running an apt-get or synaptic elsewhere, you have to close it first.
[08:41] <carthik> _azrael, but you see how the _order_ in which the packages are replaced are important. forcing yes is not always a great solution. He/she might still have a seriously broken system
[08:42] <carthik> _azrael, not to mention the packages installed by hand from individual debs, like Skype
[08:42] <afflux> morgen...
[08:42] <_azrael> carthik: I suppose it's not a complete reset, but it resets all available packages to a pristine state.
[08:43] <chemaja> holy crap that "reduce resources" metacity gconf setting actually works now
[08:43] <chemaja> sweet
[08:43] <flubs> _azrael: closed my terminal window and I don't see a synaptic window anywhere...is there a force quit command i can try?
[08:43] <waxhead> so no one is having any problems with soundjuice creating big mp3 files?
[08:43] <_azrael> carthik: I found it useful originally when I had been messing around in my lib directories with some linking stuff, and found I had broken several libraries, but didn't kno wwhat.
[08:43] <_azrael> flubs: killall -9 apt-get aptitude synaptic
[08:43] <carthik> _azrael, good for you but might be poison for someone who doesnt know as much - like a new user - so I'd be careful with calling it something it is not.
[08:43] <_azrael> Or rather
[08:44] <carthik> or at least qualify what could go wrong.
[08:44] <_azrael> flubs: sudo killall -9 apt-get aptitude synaptic
[08:44] <_azrael> carthik: I don't think it can do any harm. At worst, they spend a really long time downloading.
[08:44] <_azrael> carthik: Though I will be careful about calling it a system reset, you're right there.
[08:44] <flubs> _azrael: haha, returned a 'no process killed' on all three
[08:44] <carthik> _azrael, I mentioned the harm it can do a little up there...
[08:45] <MichaelLippman> quit
[08:45] <gerhard> good morning
[08:45] <_azrael> carthik: If apt-get install --reinstall can't find the package, it doesn't do anything.
[08:46] <_azrael> carthik: It'd only remove by-hand debs if there was a version extant in sources.list repos.
[08:46] <ajopaul> !boot > ajopaul
[08:46] <_azrael> flubs: try just sudo apt-get update, tell me if that works
[08:47] <_azrael> flubs: if it does, run: sudo su
[08:47] <_azrael> flubs: then run the command I gave you.
[08:47] <_azrael> flubs: I think the sudo just didn't have the privleges carry all the way through.
[08:47] <Flannel> DONT  use sudo su
[08:47] <Linuturk> !aegis
[08:47] <ubotu> aegis: transaction-based software configuration management. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.21-2 (dapper), package size 4979 kB, installed size 12764 kB
[08:47] <_azrael> Flannel: OK, OK, I'll modify the command to use sudo.
[08:47] <flubs> the apt-get update seems to have worked, but the other script is still giving the same error
[08:48] <Flannel> _azrael: if you want that, use sudo -i
[08:48] <flubs> _azrael: Thanks for the help but I think I am just going to have to follow a tutorial I found to move my /home to a new partition and reinstall in the morning.  For now I just need to get some sleep
[08:48] <_azrael> dpkg -l | grep '^ii' | awk '{print $2}' | xargs apt-get install --reinstall --force-yes -y
[08:49] <_azrael> ignore, sorry, need to modify
[08:49] <Flannel> _azrael: just use sudo -i beforehand, it'll be fine
[08:49] <heyjoe52> finally got myself off of windows today, just ment to partition my drive but the os became corrupt, so im a linux full user now yay! now can anyone point me to some literature to use the dang thing :)
[08:50] <_azrael> flubs: dpkg -l | grep '^ii' | awk '{print $2}' | xargs sudo apt-get install --reinstall --force-yes -y
[08:50] <nnx> How do I go about changing the default JVM to Sun's?
[08:50] <_azrael> Should work.
[08:50] <nnx> Is there an automated method or do I go into /etc/alternates and rewire the symlinks manually?
[08:50] <_azrael> Or,
[08:50] <nnx> Er, /etc/alternatives, that is
[08:50] <_azrael> flubs: sudo -i dpkg -l | grep '^ii' | awk '{print $2}' | xargs apt-get install --reinstall --force-yes -y
[08:50] <_azrael> Should work too.
[08:50] <ompaul> heyjoe52, start by clicking on System -> Help there are a couple of easy to read manuals there
[08:50] <chemaja> nnx, update-alternatives
[08:51] <meathead> if I wanted to reinstall windows, which would take over my default booting OS, where can I find the command to type into GRUB to get it back in the boot record?
[08:51] <heyjoe52> thanks!
[08:51] <nnx> Ah.  Thank you.
[08:51] <ompaul> heyjoe52, yw
[08:51] <chemaja> nnx, np :D
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> !grub
[08:51] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:51] <meathead> thanks
[08:52] <vasyl> can someone please tell me how to mask packages from apt-get? I need to mask fglrx so that apt-get doesnt pull the new version when I apt-get upgrade
[08:52] <meathead> fyrestrtr: that page says nothing about finding the command for reinstalling grub?
[08:52] <Flannel> meathead: look at the second link
[08:53] <Flannel> s/installing windows/breaking it/
[08:53] <carthik> vasyl, ue synaptic to pin the version you currently use.
[08:54] <PyroManiak> How do I remove the shortcut on my desktop for my windows partition without unmounting it?
[08:54] <vasyl> carthik: could you be more precise plz what exactly do I need to do there?
[08:54] <meathead> ahh, I clicked the wrong link
[08:54] <meathead> it was in the first one, not the second
[08:54] <meathead> thanks
[08:54] <Flannel> Er, right.  First link, second line ;)
[08:54] <hush> BREAKING NEWS - IT'S OFFICIALLY OFFICIAL I LOVE LINUX - BREAKING NEWS
[08:54] <ompaul> !shout :)
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shout :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <heyjoe52> hmmm when i installed AMSN, i get an error saying hi im having an issue with my amsn, keeps saying i cant load txCximage and says please compile amsn first, having no idea how to compile (ultra newb) im a bit lost
[08:54] <ompaul> !shout
[08:54] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:55] <hush> i was excited.
[08:55] <heyjoe52> oops, must learn to type in 1 thought
[08:55] <ompaul> we all are :)
[08:55] <hush> :)
[08:55] <hush> i felt that it was something that needed to be shared with everyone
[08:55] <hush> loudly.
[08:55] <hush> in your face loud
[08:55] <chemaja> PyroManiak, probably with gconf-editor
[08:55] <vasyl> carthik: do I need to force version or lock it?
[08:56] <hush> you know whats sad - this linux IRC client is better than any of the windows clients.
[08:57] <ompaul> hush, chat goes on in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic, we reserve here for help only (its a numbers thing)
[08:58] <PyroManiak> chemaja: where though? I've looked around through there
[08:58] <waxhead> can someone paste their mp3 setting for sound juicer... that doesn't create large mp3's
[08:58] <hush> my bad I'm knew I didn't realize what channel I was in - my apologies
[08:58] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> What's an easy way to make a trash bin icon on the desktop? :)
[08:59] <carthik> vasyl, lock it once you have the right version
[08:59] <Flannel> hush: no big deal.  You're welcome to come babel endlessly in #ubuntu-offtopic, the rest of us do ;)
[08:59] <chemaja> PyroManiak, no idea -- maybe under apps >> nautilus, but ive never solved this particular prob
[09:00] <hush> Flannel: ty!
[09:00] <vasyl> carthik: cool thanks it worked :D i need to lock fglrx cause I hace X200M card and it only works with 8.24.8 and not the current one
[09:00] <PyroManiak> chemaja: Yes, Nautilus has a checkbox for "show volumes" thank you
[09:00] <chemaja> PyroManiak, nice!
[09:01] <Madpilot> Flannel, he could even babble endlessly ;)
[09:01] <PyroManiak> chemaja: "volumes visible" if you want to uncheck it
[09:02] <waxhead> how do I "update" the menus?
[09:02] <ompaul> GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop, is it not on the panel on the bottom right corner of the screen
[09:02] <waxhead> I'm missing some apps in the list
[09:02] <Madpilot> waxhead, not all apps appear in the menus
[09:04] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> ompaul: i already rid of that, I want an actual desktop icon, I think gtweakui can do it, or how about... where is the trash bin physically located?
[09:04] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> obviously not /dev/null....
[09:05] <ompaul> GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop,  ln -s /home/username/.Trash Desktop/.
[09:05] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> ahh k
[09:05] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> thx
[09:05] <heyjoe52> *sigh* ppl tell me things i have no idea what they mean in emails. "In a root shell change directory to where you extracted the files." what does this mean to, to a first day linux user?
[09:05] <Davey> oga
[09:06] <ompaul> GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop,  ln -s /home/username/.Trash Desktop/Trash  <<drop the dot & it looks like a folder you have to skin it up
[09:06] <_azrael> heyjoe42: Do you know how to use cd?
[09:06] <Flannel> heyjoe52: add a comma after shell.
[09:06] <ompaul> heyjoe52, did you look at the introduction to the Desktop and so on?
[09:06] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> actually
[09:07] <Flannel> heyjoe52: only, with ubuntu, you don't do the root shell thing, we usesudo
[09:07] <zithowa> i have a bunch of files named "somethingstupid.part0x.ext".  how do i rename them all in one command to "somethingsmart.part0x.ext"?
[09:07] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> ompaul: i knew the symbollic link command, just needed the path... (I'm a fluxbox user, and don't normally use Ubuntu)
[09:07] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> thx
[09:07] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> :)
[09:08] <zithowa> i dunno how to do anything with shell regexp
[09:08] <waxhead> this is hopeless!!!!
[09:08] <_azrael> zithowa: and the x is the only thing that changes from file to file?
[09:08] <ompaul> heyjoe52, stick with the documentation you have go through it and you will be fine, if you go off doing some other stuff that you can't evaluate as good or bad advice you may do things you don't want to actually do (no there is no virus issue but there are ways to damage your o/s)
[09:08] <waxhead> I've never had so much trouble with encoding to mp3!
[09:08] <zithowa> _azrael: yes
[09:09] <ompaul> !restricted > waxhead
[09:09] <ompaul> waxhead, install the relevant parts there and then use whatever ripper you want
[09:09] <zithowa> _azrael: maybe i'll just make a quick script
[09:09] <heyjoe52> ahh, thank you, i will go through and read it. I'm an isp tech in Canada and got tired of windows, but linux is weird and disoreinting to my eyes
[09:09] <_azrael> zithowa: Yeah, a perl script'd probably be the easiest way. You know how?
[09:10] <waxhead> ompaul, it's not that I can't encode to mp3, ti's just that they are so freakin HUGE!
[09:10] <waxhead> ompaul, they're 40 meg!
[09:11] <ompaul> waxhead, and the source file size?
[09:11] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> hmmm
[09:11] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> ompaul: just thought of a prob
[09:11] <waxhead> I'm wondering though, that I have gstreamer10 libs installed....
[09:11] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> The icon isnt dynamic like it would normally be...
[09:11] <waxhead> ompaul, I don't know, I'm using sound juicer....
[09:11] <waxhead> I tried banshee but it won't "see" mp3 settings....
[09:12] <ompaul> waxhead, my personal favorite program is called GRIP (but then I am an old timer)
[09:12] <frying_fish> waxhead: sound juicer doesn't have mp3 by default
[09:12] <frying_fish> you have to create the profile
[09:13] <frying_fish> and sound juicer also won't let you name files in a good way
[09:13] <waxhead> ompaul, yeah, I have grip, but it's not as nice iwth it's file naming, and it's just a pain to work out... I like SJ's.
[09:13] <frying_fish> sound juicer is worse at filenaming, you can even alter what it does for naming, you can only choose from its options
[09:13] <waxhead> frying_fish, I know, I have mp3's working.. had it working in all other versions of ubuntu too... so far dapper has been a real problem
[09:13] <frying_fish> which don't include artist - album - number - title
[09:14] <zithowa> _azrael: i know how to do it in ruby
[09:14] <zithowa> i dunno perl atm
[09:14] <_azrael> zithowa: Even better. I'll leave you to it.
[09:14] <_azrael> zithowa: On a random note, if you already know ruby, you probably shouldn't bother too much w/ perl
[09:19] <Csabo2> if you need a good mp3 player use beep
[09:19] <NineTeen67Comet> Triple Monitors is a REALITY! .. Yeah for cheap CRT monitors and open source X servers! .. WOW! Move the mouse from the far right to the far left, and you better have a wide mouse pad .. heheheheh
[09:19] <Scorpmoon> where can I read about how to control ubuntu server remotely?
[09:19] <Scorpmoon> from a windows machine
[09:20] <NineTeen67Comet> Scorpmoon: did you pop openssh on your server? If so you can use Putty ..
[09:20] <_azrael> !ssh > scorpmoon
[09:21] <NineTeen67Comet> If not you can download and install Webmin .. then use Firefox (Cuz I know you ain't using IE) .. to access your server ..
[09:21] <Scorpmoon> is the ubuntu server side ready for it though?
[09:21] <Carmen-> is there some advanced tutorial about hard drive partitions?
[09:21] <NineTeen67Comet> Scorpmoon: You have to apt-get install openssh-server I beleive ..
[09:21] <Carmen-> i wanna know everything about hard disk
[09:22] <secleinteer> hey, i started ubuntu, and it said that every 30th boot it needs to check the file system
[09:22] <secleinteer> but it can't check it automatically cause it fails
[09:22] <secleinteer> so it asks for the root password
[09:22] <NineTeen67Comet> Carmen-: fire up google.com .. look for a wiki .. etc. etc .. there really isn't much except to get in there and learn it ..
[09:22] <secleinteer> but it won't accept it
[09:22] <secleinteer> does any1 know how to get around this?
[09:22] <homerh_linux> hiya ppl
[09:22] <Carmen-> NineTeen67Comet i dont know what i am searching for
[09:23] <secleinteer> any1?
[09:23] <secleinteer> i really need this fixed
[09:23] <NineTeen67Comet> secleinteer: sounds like you might have the wrong fs type in your fstab .. I had ext2 when mine was reiserfs and it kicked an oerror out like that too ..
[09:23] <Carmen-> i always find some noobie documentation
[09:23] <Carmen-> like "hard drive stores files"
[09:23] <NineTeen67Comet> Carmen-: try .. googaling for "hard drive partitioning" ..
[09:23] <secleinteer> mine says that line 10 is messed up in fstab
[09:23] <secleinteer> that may be for my windows share
[09:23] <secleinteer> my windows box isn't working right now
[09:23] <secleinteer> so it gets an error when trying to mount
[09:23] <meathead> Carmen-: about.com does great information on like, everything
[09:24] <secleinteer> but how can i fix this?
[09:24] <meathead> Carmen-: they'll teach you how to play guitar
[09:24] <NineTeen67Comet> secleinteer: you might have to boot into your box with the live cd, then use that to edit your fstab on your hard drive .. space down 10 lines and see what's the issue
[09:24] <secleinteer> ok
[09:24] <homerh_linux> haveing a problem with synaptic it wont load just let me enter my password first time then ,then evry other try the cursor goes for a asecound or 2 and nothing and i cant add programs via applications/add,remove
[09:24] <secleinteer> will backtrack work? because i'm using my copy of knoppix on my windows box to get into here
[09:25] <NineTeen67Comet> you can use knppix to look at your fstab too ..
[09:25] <secleinteer> i don't have a copy to put in that comp
[09:25] <NineTeen67Comet> secleinteer: fstab is a file not an application ..
[09:25] <secleinteer> i know
[09:25] <homerh_linux> also apt=get works fine from a terminal
[09:26] <crazy_penguin> Good morning everyone! :)
[09:26] <NineTeen67Comet> secleinteer: fstab files are simple to edit . you don't need a new one .. there are also (haven't got it handy) places via google that show how to fix your windows MBR back to default, then you can re-do Ubuntu ..
[09:26] <homerh_linux> morning crazy_penguin
[09:27] <secleinteer> windows mbr?
[09:27] <lukem> hey all
[09:27] <NineTeen67Comet> secleinteer: least that way you can get back in your box w/out being in Knoppix .. mbr = master boot record .. grub is what's there now handeling that ..
[09:27] <secleinteer> i don't even know what's wrong with my windows box
[09:27] <method|> can someone tell me what mouse theme ubuntu uses as default?
[09:27] <secleinteer> i'm not even worrying about that now
[09:27] <homerh_linux> windows is on it
[09:28] <NineTeen67Comet> secleinteer: if you fix the mbr you can boot into windows and start over .. your XP disc should have a utility on it to do that (it's been a couple years since I used windows but it was there back then) ..
[09:28] <NineTeen67Comet> secleinteer: google for windows mbr repair or fix ..
[09:29] <secleinteer> you do realize that ubuntu and windows are on separate computers right?
[09:29] <secleinteer> are you saying i can fix my windows like this?
[09:29] <Carmen-> i dont get it
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> secleinteer: what is your  problem?
[09:29] <KillerDemon> just press R with windows xp setup
[09:29] <Carmen-> whats with the Bootable flag with partition?
[09:29] <NineTeen67Comet> aha .. I thought you put Ubuntu  on this computer you are on now .. that also had Windows on it ..
[09:29] <Carmen-> you can boot to partiton that is not Bootable
[09:29] <Carmen-> even ubuntus installed does not make partitions botable
[09:29] <method|> can someone tell me what cursor theme ubuntu uses as default?
[09:29] <Carmen-> but still it boots to them..
[09:30] <secleinteer> fyrestrtr: i'm booting ubuntu for a 30th time when i check the fs
[09:30] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> how can I remove a package without it pulling other things with it, I have to use dpkg, right?  If so, what switches?
[09:30] <secleinteer> and it can't do it automatically
[09:30] <secleinteer> so it says i have to do manually
[09:30] <_azrael> Carmen-: The bootable flag is for the old DOS MBR. It really doesn't do much of anything nowadays.
[09:30] <secleinteer> but my root password isn't working, which i need b4 doing it manually
[09:30] <secleinteer> and my fstab is not workign apparently
[09:30] <homerh_linux> can anyone help me synapics is not working wont load ,but apt-get work from terminal
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> secleinteer: do you only have one partition?
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> homerh_linux: are you using xgl?
[09:31] <homerh_linux> yeah
[09:31] <waxhead> damn... still big files
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> homerh_linux: check the forums, I believe there is a fix for it.
[09:31] <secleinteer> only 1 partition on the ubuntu comp
[09:31] <secleinteer> just restarted after no major changes
[09:31] <secleinteer> and i can't get in now
[09:31] <homerh_linux> ok will do thanks
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> secleinteer: okay, does it give you any errors?
[09:32] <secleinteer> yes
[09:32] <secleinteer> it says line 10 of fstab is messed up
[09:32] <secleinteer> and it can't do an auto fsck
[09:32] <secleinteer> i just want to skip this
[09:32] <HellDragon> night
[09:32] <secleinteer> is there any way to just bypass it?
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> secleinteer: lol okay, that's why its asking you for the root password, because it is trying to drop into maintenance mode, which needs a proper, funtioning root account (something that is disabled in ubuntu). Its not a big deal, boot from the livecd, and edit the fstab file, then reboot the machine and let it do its check. There is a way to bypass it, but you need to be in a shell to get to it.
[09:33] <Carmen-> when you make partition this "Extended partition" shows up
[09:33] <Carmen-> what is that Extended thing
[09:34] <secleinteer> what do i edit in the fstab file?
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> Carmen-: why don't you google this information? It has nothing to do with ubuntu.
[09:34] <secleinteer> just line 10?
[09:34] <homerh_linux> thanks fyrestrtr that worked a treat
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> secleinteer: depends what's wrong with it, but line 10 is where I would look.
[09:34] <secleinteer> ok
[09:34] <secleinteer> and if i do that
[09:34] <secleinteer> it should boot fine?
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> yes
[09:34] <secleinteer> ok
[09:34] <method|> can someone please tell me what is the default cursor them in ubuntu
[09:34] <secleinteer> i'm trying to get into my hd with backtrack
[09:34] <secleinteer> but i can't
[09:34] <method|> theme*
[09:34] <secleinteer> so i'll have to pull out my knoppix cd
[09:34] <_azrael> Carmen-: The "extended" choice is if you want to have a partition with other partitions in it. This choice exists due to restrictions on the drive partition table which limit it to 4 partitions.
[09:35] <secleinteer> which i'm using now on this other comp
[09:35] <secleinteer> i'll be sure to come back and say if it worked
[09:35] <ajopaul> hi does any one know a good wmv/mpg to 3gp converter for ubuntu???
[09:35] <Scorpmoon> After installing openssh-server and running putty on windows, connecting to my IP, nothing happens.
[09:35] <Scorpmoon> do I need to do something else?
[09:35] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> No one knows an answer to my question? :-/
[09:36] <_azrael> Scorpmoon: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[09:36] <meathead> what is it
[09:36] <NineTeen67Comet> Scorpmoon: did you start ssh? sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start ..
[09:36] <Scorpmoon> lol no
[09:36] <Scorpmoon> how do I make ssh start everytime I reboot?
[09:36] <meathead> GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop: what is your question
[09:37] <rrk> but it in  rc
[09:37] <rrk> put it in rc
[09:37] <meathead> Scorpmoon: system > preferences > sessions
[09:37] <Scorpmoon> sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start fails !
[09:37] <Awesome-o2000> hey now - gimp is multithreaded
[09:37] <Scorpmoon> meathead, i'm in console
[09:37] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> meathead: more or less, how to use dpkg to remove one package without removing other packages in which apt thinks are no longer needed
[09:37] <_azrael> Scorpmoon: What does it fail on?
[09:37] <Scorpmoon> Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell Server...
[09:38] <Scorpmoon> i don't use DHCP
[09:38] <Awesome-o2000> theres something that uses my cpu
[09:38] <Awesome-o2000> nice
[09:38] <Awesome-o2000> converting an animated gif to rgb
[09:38] <ttyfscker> ok now
[09:38] <ttyfscker> wtf
[09:38] <meathead> GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop: they are packages that depend on the package you want to remove... deleting the package that you are trying to remove will BREAK all the others, so it makes you either remove them, or not remove anything
[09:38] <ttyfscker> ubuntu christian edition?
[09:38] <ttyfscker> what does religion got to do with linux?
[09:39] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> meathead: i understand all this, but there is still a no dep switch
[09:39] <Awesome-o2000> ttyfscker, probably just has good porn blockers and the such
[09:39] <ttyfscker> christians too good for the other distros now?
[09:39] <Awesome-o2000> ttyfscker, and maybe Christian art
[09:39] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> I know exactly what the package is that it is trying to remove
[09:39] <ttyfscker> apt-pray ?
[09:39] <Awesome-o2000> apt-get install religion
[09:39] <meathead> man dkpg
[09:39] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> ahh cmon
[09:40] <Scorpmoon> so i can't use openssh-server now?
[09:40] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> :P
[09:40] <ttyfscker> apt-pray condemn packagename
[09:40] <trpr_> what repo is automake1.5 in?
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> trpr_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:40] <NineTeen67Comet> Scorpmoon: you should be able to .. I don't use DHCP .. on your MS box in putty just put the ip address enter, and walla . it'll ask you for your user name ..
[09:40] <trpr_> fyrestrtr: thanks but not thanks. i have automake1.4 and automake1.9 thanks... this obscure build wants 1.5 but it can't be found
[09:40] <Scorpmoon> Nineteen, yeah but the openssh server doesn't run, it fails
[09:40] <NineTeen67Comet> That is if /etc/init.d/ssh start . turned out fine ..
[09:40] <Scorpmoon> so what can I do
[09:41] <NineTeen67Comet> aha .. missed that sorry ..
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> trpr_: build of what?
[09:41] <waxhead> finally!
[09:41] <meathead> fyrestrtr: christian ubuntu! duh!
[09:41] <NineTeen67Comet> hum.... Scorpmoon . never had ssh fail to install .. lol
[09:41] <waxhead> no VBR though.. :(
[09:41] <trpr_> fyrestrtr: kmud. old kde software
[09:41] <meathead> gotta do things the conversative way!
[09:41] <Scorpmoon> it installed, it just doesn't run
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> trpr_: hrmm, try packages.ubuntu.com
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> trpr_: don't think its available though
[09:42] <PyroManiak> how do I search my entire system for a file?
[09:42] <trpr_> fyrestrtr: hrm. i believe you. i'll just have to build it myself :\
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> PyroManiak: sudo find / -t f -name "somefile.txt"
[09:43] <meathead> anyone know of an easy way to mount a bin/cue without manually downloading and install cdemu
[09:43] <Scorpmoon> why does ubuntu server have to be rocket science, like any other distro?
[09:43] <Scorpmoon> ubuntu desktop is ok
[09:43] <secleinteer> fyrestrtr: you there?
[09:43] <JdGordon> i formatted my winxp partition (which was hda1, ubuntu is hda3), and now grub will not start ubuntu.. how can i fix it?
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> meathead: sudo mount -t auto -o loop foo.bin /path/to/somewhere -- if its a dvd or video, mplayer can play it directly from the bin
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> secleinteer: yeah
[09:44] <secleinteer> ok so now i'm on the comp i'm trying to fix, using knoppix
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> JdGordon: re-install grub.
[09:44] <secleinteer> but i can't write files
[09:44] <secleinteer> how do i get permission?
[09:44] <JdGordon> fyrestrtr: how?
[09:44] <NineTeen67Comet> Scorpmoon: I didn't see the fail .. just the start .. can you ping your server? Can your server get out? etc etc . and I have been running ubuntu server .. it's not as easy as the desktop version that's for sure .. lol .. lots you have to install to get it up comparatively ..
[09:44] <meathead> JdGordon: boot with a live cd, goto term and type "find /boot/grub/stage1"
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> secleinteer: first, make sure you are checking the right file. You'd probably have to mount your disks.
[09:44] <meathead> fyrestrtr: thx thx thx!
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> !grub > JdGordon
[09:45] <secleinteer> the problem is a windows file share, like i thought
[09:45] <secleinteer> that windows computer is down
[09:45] <secleinteer> so it can't mount it
[09:45] <PyroManiak> fyrestrtr: find: invalid predicate `-t'
[09:45] <secleinteer> i need to just delete that line in fstab
[09:45] <secleinteer> i've got fstab open right now
[09:45] <secleinteer> with the changes made
[09:45] <secleinteer> but i can't save to hdd
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> secleinteer: are you sure you are reading the correct fstab?
[09:45] <secleinteer> yes
[09:45] <Scorpmoon> Nineteen, no i can't ping in or out.. I followed this instruction to setup my network: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html
[09:45] <secleinteer> /etc/fstab
[09:45] <meathead> fyrestrtr: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> secleinteer: no, I mean are you reading the one from your disk, and not the one from knoppix. That's why I said, mount your disk. You ubuntu disk.
[09:46] <NineTeen67Comet> secleinteer: that might be knoppix's fstab .. Ubuntu's will be like /mnt/hda3/etc/fstab .. (depending on where your / is on your hd) ..
[09:46] <secleinteer> i know i'm looking at the ubuntu fstab
[09:46] <secleinteer> because i have the mod i made to it
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> meathead: install bchunk
[09:47] <secleinteer> so i could make a local folder for my windows file share
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> secleinteer: you haven't mounted the partition with write privileges, check how its mounted.
[09:47] <secleinteer> ok
[09:47] <PyroManiak> Any reason why sometimes my keys will repeat, but other times they dont? *for instance if I hold the down arrow while browsing the web*
[09:47] <NineTeen67Comet> Scorpmoon: wow, that's the hard way .. you "should" have just been able to type ifconfig eth0 ip.add.ress up then route default gw ip.add.ress eth0
[09:48] <NineTeen67Comet> Scorpmoon: I'll read it a little and see if I can tell what might be fishy ..
[09:48] <meathead> bchuck installed, small error message
[09:48] <Scorpmoon> Nineteen, how do I update the information I just entered in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[09:48] <secleinteer> fyrestrtr: i can't change the permissions on /etc/fstab
[09:48] <Scorpmoon> so it goes into effect
[09:48] <fyrestrtr> secleinteer: type 'mount'
[09:48] <secleinteer> in konsole?
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> secleinteer: yes
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> and then pastebin the output
[09:49] <meathead> fyrestrtr: and now I'm getting this error message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21194 again. HOW DO I MAKE IT STOP!!!
[09:49] <NineTeen67Comet> Scorpmoon: I'm reading up a little on your link .. did you follow the static directions and all that? (assuming you did)
[09:49] <holycow> anyone know the status of libdvdcss2 ... i keep on running into dvds where certain tracks cannot have their keys generated ... is this common?
[09:49] <Scorpmoon> yes but I had an error.. i don't want DHCP .. but it seems even if I want to use static, I have to set eth0 as dhcp and eth1 as static
[09:49] <secleinteer> /dev/root on / type ext2 (rw)
[09:49] <secleinteer> /dev/hdc on /cdrom type iso9660 (ro)
[09:49] <secleinteer> /dev/cloop on /KNOPPIX type iso9660 (ro)
[09:49] <secleinteer> /proc/bus/usb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,devmode=0666)
[09:49] <secleinteer> /dev/pts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw)
[09:49] <secleinteer> /dev/hda1 on /media/hda1 type ext3 (ro,nosuid,nodev)
[09:50] <secleinteer> /dev/hda1 is my hdd
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> secleinteer: learn to use the pastebin, its there for a reason.
[09:50] <Carmen-> no shit
[09:50] <secleinteer> what's pastebin?
[09:50] <Carmen-> lo
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> !pastebin
[09:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:50] <meathead> sudo gedit /dev/hda1/etc/fstab
[09:50] <meathead> errr
[09:50] <meathead> sudo gedit /media/hda1/etc/fstab
[09:50] <meathead> I ment
[09:50] <secleinteer> if that's a program or something, i can't install it in knoppix
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> secleinteer: the reason you can't write to it, is because its mounted read only (ro)
[09:50] <NineTeen67Comet> Scorpmoon: you can disable one and use the other .. ifconfig eth0 down (or eth1) .. then build for the one you want .. they can't both have the same info or they conflict (least in my case they did0 ..
[09:50] <meathead> not the first
[09:51] <secleinteer> so how do i mount it with write priveleges?
[09:51] <meathead> secleinteer: it's a website for people who don't want to flood the channel
[09:51] <secleinteer> oh
[09:51] <secleinteer> i see
[09:51] <Scorpmoon> Nineteen, I don't know that if then language you're talking about
[09:51] <secleinteer> well i'll use it from now
[09:51] <Carmen-> chmod -r 777 /
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> secleinteer: sudu umount /dev/hda1
[09:51] <NineTeen67Comet> meathead: he might have to use nano if gedit isn't on knoppix
[09:51] <meathead> yeah
[09:51] <secleinteer> ok.........
[09:51] <secleinteer> now?
[09:51] <NineTeen67Comet> lol
[09:52] <vedder> Hi people :D
[09:52] <meathead> fyrestrtr: I installed bchuck, it didn't help..
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> secleinteer: sudo mount -t auto /dev/hda1 /media/hd1
[09:52] <NineTeen67Comet> Scorpmoon: type .. ifconfig .. and see which card is which .. you should have lo,eth0 and eth1 listed .. and lspci will tell you which is which pretty much ..
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> secleinteer: then type 'mount' and tell me the part after type ext3
[09:52] <meathead> oh, bchuck is a conversion tool
[09:52] <meathead> I see
[09:52] <bryan> anyone here running mythtv?
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> meathead: did you actually USE it?
[09:52] <meathead> well paint me green and call me kermit
[09:52] <meathead> I thought INSTALLING it would solve me problems
[09:52] <vedder> I just convert a ntfs partition to ext3 how can i mount it via fstab?
[09:52] <meathead> I never read what it DOES
[09:53] <Gibbster> Hi! Has anyone managed to connect to the Lexmark E120n via ethernet with ubuntu?
[09:53] <meathead> fyrestrtr: I get this error at LOT all the sudden: make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> !locales > meathead
[09:54] <Scorpmoon> nineteen, if I don't want to use dhcp, i just make eth0 static?
[09:54] <secleinteer> fyrestrtr: it's rw
[09:54] <Scorpmoon> btw. now openssh-server started automatically at reboot
[09:54] <Scorpmoon> weird
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> secleinteer: now, edit /media/hd1/etc/fstab
[09:54] <NineTeen67Comet> Scorpmoon: yeah .. ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.? up .. should turn it on ..
[09:54] <meisam> hi, how can i install postgres?
[09:54] <NineTeen67Comet> Scorpmoon: ?=what ever your IP is ..
[09:55] <vedder> Can someone please help me munting a ext3 partition?
[09:55] <Carmen-> mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[09:55] <secleinteer> fyrestrtr: i still couldn't save
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> meisam: sudo apt-get install postgresql
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> secleinteer: you are doing something wrong then.
[09:55] <secleinteer> let me try again
[09:55] <vedder> Carmen thanks but i want to add the line in fstab to automount
[09:56] <Carmen-> nano /etc/fstab
[09:56] <vedder> yep
[09:56] <Scorpmoon> nineteen, how do I assign 2 ips to eth0?
[09:56] <NineTeen67Comet> vedder: /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ext3 defaults 0 0
[09:56] <vedder> i made a folder in media
[09:56] <Scorpmoon> just type 2 address lines?
[09:56] <NineTeen67Comet> Scorpmoon: I don't think you can .. that would create a conflict ..
[09:56] <Scorpmoon> on windows i can
[09:56] <Bug-E> *yawn*
[09:56] <vedder> Thanks i will try with that
[09:56] <Carmen-> in windows you make Microsoft Folder but in linux you make Directorys
[09:57] <meathead> fyrestrtr: I'm assuming you thought the bot messaged me when you typed !locates > meathead... it didn't.
[09:57] <NineTeen67Comet> grin
[09:57] <chops-> i am getting a nasty error when i try and install daydream BBS software
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> !locales
[09:57] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> meathead: register your nick, and identify with nickserv
[09:57] <NineTeen67Comet> Scorpmoon: you might have to google . multiple ip single nic or something ..
[09:57] <chops-> configure WARNING *** curses not found, hydracom will not be compiled configure: error: "BUILD HYDRACOM" was never defined usaly this means the macro was invoked conditionally
[09:57] <NineTeen67Comet> brb .. kids
[09:57] <PyroManiak> what log can I check to find out what is hard locking my system?
[09:57] <secleinteer> fyrestrtr: got it
[09:57] <secleinteer> i just did sudo konqueror
[09:58] <secleinteer> and then went and edited the permissions
[09:58] <secleinteer> so that everyone could edit it
[09:59] <secleinteer> going to restart now to see if it worked
[09:59] <meathead> although I've gotten no response from /nickserv, I believe I registered correctlyu
[09:59] <meathead> irssi isn't like bitchx..
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> meathead: /msg nickserv identify yourpassword
[09:59] <meathead> did it
[09:59] <meathead> meathead(+i)
[10:00] <meathead> believe that means I'm idented
[10:00] <meathead> !locales
[10:00] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> meathead: if your whois doesn't say 'identified to services', you are not identified.
[10:00] <Gorth> Can someone point to daily snapshots of edgy that can actually fit onto a cd
[10:01] <meathead> oh well
[10:01] <meathead> guess no pm's for me
[10:03] <sai> hi, i have a problem with my sound in some of the ubuntu applications - firefox, skype, also when i'm using java i can't hear anything, though there is a perfectly fine sound when playing music in xmms or watching a movie through vlc / totem
[10:03] <meathead> and like everyone else on the forums, the fix at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf doesn't work.
[10:03] <sai> the problem is that it worked some time ago and nothing is actually changed, just regular updates
[10:04] <sai> using alsa here
[10:04] <voltagex> how can I get ubuntu to detect my soundcard? it's listed in lspci
[10:04] <sai> also, skype tends to fuck the sound of vlc when ran in bg
[10:04] <meathead> great, now instead of getting the error once, I get it four times
[10:04] <DBO> !language > sai
[10:05] <_azrael> sai: Skype has a reputation for 1.) Sometimes just not working. and 2.) Not liking any other sound.
[10:05] <sai> DBO: sorry
[10:05] <vedder> e again and the same problem
[10:05] <vedder> i can write in the ext3 partition
[10:05] <vedder> can/t
[10:05] <holycow> what is the next ubuntu version called again?
[10:05] <vedder> sorry i CAN'T
[10:05] <sai> _azrael: that's fine with me, still would like to get sound working in general basis
[10:05] <voltagex> holycow: edgy
[10:05] <Gorth-> holycow: Edgy
[10:05] <vedder> adgy
[10:05] <holycow> danke
[10:06] <_azrael> sai: Just my 2 cents.
[10:06] <vedder> edgy*
[10:06] <sai> like in firefox ..
[10:06] <vedder> i have this defaults        0       0 why i can write?
[10:07] <j0k3rz> hi
[10:07] <secleinteer> fyrestrtr: it still won't work
[10:07] <secleinteer> i'm not getting that particular error
[10:07] <KillerDemon> holycow  it's called edgy eft
[10:08] <vedder> why i am so stooopid :(
[10:08] <holycow> thank you all
[10:08] <secleinteer> but it's says "contains a file system with errors, check forced"
[10:08] <forbidden_fruit> where can i find some beginner's tutorial to setting up wine?
[10:08] <meathead> forbidden_fruit: right here
[10:08] <KillerDemon> lol setting up wine
[10:08] <meathead> forbidden_fruit: sudo apt-get install wine; winecfg
[10:09] <meathead> the winecfg command gives you a nice little program to set it up
[10:09] <meathead> easily
[10:09] <forbidden_fruit> meathead: done half of that
[10:09] <secleinteer> fyrestrtr: you there?
[10:09] <forbidden_fruit> thank you meathead
[10:09] <meathead> yep
[10:09] <vedder> defaults  0  0  <----i can't write in a ext3 partition, what is wrong?
[10:09] <holycow> !libdvdcss2
[10:09] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:09] <meisam> hello im sorry how can i install office and postgresql
[10:09] <meisam> thanks
[10:10] <forbidden_fruit> meathead: E: Couldn't find package winecfg
[10:11] <forbidden_fruit> meathead: nevermind that
[10:11] <forbidden_fruit> lol
[10:11] <secleinteer> damnit
[10:11] <rem> .
[10:11] <secleinteer> does any1 know how to disable the forced fsck?
[10:12] <meathead> lol
[10:12] <meisam> office
[10:12] <meisam> ?
[10:12] <meisam> please
[10:12] <PyroManiak> what log can I check to find out what is hard locking my system?
[10:12] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> secleinteer: i know how
[10:13] <linkslice> which version of ubuntu would be best for a myth tv install? (sorry if this is a dumb q, i'm a bsd dweeb)
[10:13] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> its pretty simple
[10:13] <secleinteer> how would that be?
[10:13] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> secleinteer: open up fstab
[10:13] <secleinteer> and?
[10:13] <vedder> hhhuumm i found the problem qparted do not make well the formatinf process
[10:13] <KillerDemon> myth tv specs?
[10:13] <vedder> when u run sudo fdisk -l it say ntfs
[10:13] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> see the end of the line for the drive thats its wanting to run fsck on?  change the numbers from 0 1 to 0 0
[10:13] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> and save
[10:13] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> thats all
[10:14] <secleinteer> k
[10:14] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> i cant believe someone hadn't helped you already
[10:14] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> :-/
[10:14] <secleinteer> i already tried some stuff
[10:14] <secleinteer> but it didn't work
[10:14] <secleinteer> i'm going to try that now
[10:14] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> well thats the easiest way
[10:14] <secleinteer> k
[10:14] <linkslice> mythtv specs vary a lot from hardware..i'm just trying to figure out the the server or workstation edition of dapper would be better...
[10:15] <linkslice> i've got relatively beefy hardware
[10:15] <KillerDemon> why dont you try xubuntu 6.10 edgy eft
[10:15] <KillerDemon> xgl out of the box
[10:15] <KillerDemon> and optimized for speed
[10:15] <linkslice> ohhhh pretty :-)
[10:15] <meathead> what is xgl
[10:15] <meathead> !xlg
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xlg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <linkslice> ok thatnks KillerDemon
[10:15] <DARKGuy> lol
[10:15] <KillerDemon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xgl
[10:15] <DARKGuy> shiny stuff windoze-vista like for linux :P
[10:16] <KillerDemon> by the way!
[10:16] <KillerDemon> the vista earso seems to be going to work with opengl also
[10:16] <sai> !irq
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about irq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <KillerDemon> *earo
[10:16] <linkslice> DARKGuy, i think you mean windows vista 2050-like stuff :-)
[10:16] <holycow> !crccheck
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crccheck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <forbidden_fruit> meathead: i have the installation done. how do i run a win32 application?
[10:17] <DARKGuy> linkslice: Hehe, yup xD
[10:17] <KillerDemon> forbidden_fruit just open it with wine
[10:17] <DARKGuy> Anyhow! :P anybody knows how to make the programs catch the changes in .Xdefaults without restarting my X?
[10:17] <forbidden_fruit> KillerDemon: how?
[10:17] <meisam> open office is not installed on my dapper just upgreade
[10:17] <meisam> how can i install open office
[10:18] <rem> sudo apt-get install open-office
[10:18] <chops-> when i do a make i get this error what could be wrong ?
[10:18] <chops-> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
[10:18] <KillerDemon> !wine
[10:18] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:18] <chops-> dont i have make installed ?
[10:18] <DARKGuy> chol: try ./configure ?
[10:18] <DARKGuy> er, *chops
[10:18] <chops-> yeah i done that
[10:18] <chops-> configure WARNING *** curses not found, hydracom will not be compiled configure: error: "BUILD HYDRACOM" was never defined usaly this means the macro was invoked conditionally
[10:18] <Thunderpants> chops-, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:18] <chops-> got that
[10:18] <meathead> wine utorrent.exe
[10:19] <meathead> forbidden_fruit: wine utorrent.exe
[10:19] <forbidden_fruit> meathead: thank you
[10:19] <rem> you have th be in the Wine directory i think meathead
[10:19] <DARKGuy> chops-: try apt-get install libncurses5-dev , sounds like you haven't got the curses development libs
[10:19] <meathead> ...or you have to be in a terminal where the exe is
[10:19] <rem> it creates a "C" like..MY documents etc...
[10:20] <meathead> ...like every other file
[10:20] <linkslice> damn no US mirrors of xubuntu...
[10:20] <forbidden_fruit> meathead: you do, or you have to specify the location where utorrent.exe is located
[10:20] <KillerDemon> try dutch mirrors :D
[10:20] <rem> put ure file in "MY Documents" for ex..and it should work better ..
[10:20] <chops-> build-essential is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:20] <meathead> ...yeah
[10:21] <linkslice> i don't see a dutch one either...
[10:21] <Thunderpants> chops-, did you configure b4 make?
[10:21] <meathead> you can't be in /home/meathead and try to run /otherhdd/utorrent.exe by typing wine utorrent.exe
[10:21] <linkslice> the main mirror is canadian no?
[10:21] <meathead> ...just like everything else in linux, ever
[10:21] <DARKGuy> he doesn't seems to have the curses dev libs
[10:21] <KillerDemon> linkslice: (netherlands)
[10:21] <forbidden_fruit> same with ms-dos too meathead
[10:21] <HeathenDan> wine '/media/otherhdd/utorrent.exe'
[10:22] <meathead> forbidden_fruit: yeah
[10:22] <linkslice> doh!
[10:22] <linkslice> ;)
[10:22] <KillerDemon> ^^
[10:22] <forbidden_fruit> :p
[10:22] <chops-> DARKGuy i am downloading that thing now :) hopefulyl with that it works
[10:22] <forbidden_fruit> i converted a fat32 partition into ntfs. ubuntu doesn't read any of its contents anymore......
[10:22] <forbidden_fruit> do i need to edit the fstab?
[10:22] <DARKGuy> chops-: good luck, try doing a ./configure again so it gets the changes ^^
[10:22] <meathead> ntfs is readable, not writable by ubuntu
[10:23] <DARKGuy> chops-: 'cause you can't "make" without being sure that "configure" ended successfully
[10:23] <ompaul> !ntfs > forbidden_fruit
[10:24] <forbidden_fruit> meathead: that isn't very good news. are you sure about that?
[10:24] <ompaul> forbidden_fruit, read the link ubotu sent you
[10:24] <ompaul> forbidden_fruit, you can't write you can read
[10:24] <forbidden_fruit> got it ompaul, thanks
[10:24] <forbidden_fruit> i see
[10:24] <ompaul> forbidden_fruit, there are tools that say write - if they wreck the ntfs on you it can kill all the data there
[10:24] <meathead> forbidden_fruit: well, there are EXPERIMENTAL programs...
[10:24] <secleinteer> could someone look back in their chat history and tell me how fyrestrtr said i should remount my /dev/hda1? it's something like sudo mount -t ....
[10:25] <meathead> forbidden_fruit: you could try one, if you're not too fond of your pr0n collection
[10:25] <forbidden_fruit> i'm poor in that department meathead , so i guess its fine :p whats it called?
[10:25] <meathead> secleinteer: if you're fstab is properly configured now you can just type mount /dev/hda1
[10:25] <forbidden_fruit> the program
[10:25] <secleinteer> i need to mount it so i can read/write
[10:26] <secleinteer> fyrestrtr said how to do that
[10:26] <secleinteer> but i don't remember
[10:26] <secleinteer> i need to mod the fstab still
[10:26] <meathead> man, XGL looks HAWT, why isn't that ubuntu default
[10:26] <holycow> meathead, because its beta
[10:26] <meathead> ahh
[10:26] <meathead> so that's why it's beautiful
[10:26] <KillerDemon> and because you need videodrivers
[10:26] <secleinteer> could someone please help me?
[10:26] <meathead> ...it's dangerous tooo
[10:26] <holycow> meathead, it mostly doesn't work also, its just an experiment under development right now
[10:26] <secleinteer> just look back in your chat history.........
[10:27] <sn00p> Does anybody know how ot fix ident in ubuntu?
[10:27] <secleinteer> it wasn't that long ago.......
[10:27] <meathead> beautiful and dangerous, sounds like my kind of GUI
[10:28] <AstralJava> secleinteer: Is it this line: (10:52:12) fyrestrtr: secleinteer: sudo mount -t auto /dev/hda1 /media/hd1 ?
[10:28] <secleinteer> yes
[10:28] <secleinteer> thank you so much
[10:28] <NineTeen67Comet> meathead: I used xgl for a few months and had no issues (outside the occasional mplayer complaint) but I upgraded my video card (one AGP and one PCI) and ever since it's been a wash .. it rocks when it works though ..
[10:29] <AstralJava> No prob. :)
[10:29] <meathead> it's been a wash?
[10:29] <meathead> car wash?
[10:29] <Peacer> how can i make myself able to create new folders in the filesystem?
[10:29] <meathead> what does that mean
[10:29] <meathead> you get lots of errors? just doesn't work?
[10:29] <trygg__> How can i change my root password? :)
[10:29] <Peacer> am not allowed to >;/
[10:30] <Tiggy> hey can someone help me vith VLC?
[10:30] <linkslice> KillerDemon, I can't seem to find something called 'edgy' in the mirrors
[10:30] <Tiggy> There isnt any sound
[10:30] <meathead> trygg__: passwd
[10:30] <NineTeen67Comet> meathead: lol .. when you run dual (triple in my case) monitors xgl/compiz (compiz runs under gnome/kde/xfce) it seems to not like xinerama and it's one screen monitor issue .. mine worked for a while very well ..
[10:30] <_azrael> trygg__: It's not reccomended to enable the root account, but if you must: sudo passwd
[10:30] <meathead> Tiggy: is the volume up in VLC and in Ubuntu?
[10:30] <AstralJava> Peacer: Where are you trying to create new directories? If / (root), you need to use sudo.
[10:30] <Tiggy> yes
[10:30] <KillerDemon> linkslice just a moment
[10:30] <trygg__> _azrael: I dont see why people should know their root password?
[10:31] <dpupp> waii! ^_^ im back . network problems gone now. new wifi card. works sweet. smc card,
[10:31] <Peacer> astrajava in / yews
[10:31] <Peacer> yes*
[10:31] <AstralJava> Peacer: Of course, trying to add them most anywhere else outside your own home, requires sudo as well. :)
[10:31] <trygg__> _azrael: shouldnt*
[10:31] <KillerDemon> linkslice:  http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cdimage-xubuntu/releases/edgy/knot-1/
[10:31] <Peacer> ahh
[10:31] <Peacer> thank you
[10:31] <AstralJava> Peacer: Does sudo work for your user?
[10:31] <_azrael> trygg__: The idea is that the root account can't be logged into. Doing things only via sudo is generally considered safer both from a security, and an accident-prevention standpoint.
[10:32] <Peacer> thankzorz AstralJava
[10:32] <AstralJava> Ok, you're welcome. :)
[10:32] <linkslice> ahhh
[10:32] <dpupp> So! now i want to change from kernel 23 to kernel 26. How? its not longer appearing under update manager. any reason i should NOT ?
[10:32] <trygg__> _azrael: i see.
[10:32] <linkslice> KillerDemon, does edgy just refer to a beta-style testing release?
[10:32] <Tiggy> meathead: all are full
[10:32] <trygg__> :)
[10:33] <KillerDemon> edgy eft = 6.10
[10:33] <trygg_> :D
[10:33] <tibbe> I've messed my ALSA/sound settings so my mic doesn't work, how can I get them back to a pristine, newly installed state?
[10:33] <nekun> hi all sup?
[10:34] <dpupp> trygg alsamixer in a terminal.
[10:34] <Tiggy> Anyone know an alternative Divx player to VLC and Mplayer?
[10:34] <dpupp> err, i mean tribbe
[10:34] <werdna_> http://www.votehemp.com
[10:34] <Peacer> AstralJava now i'm having problem with writing... i can't copy files in there ...
[10:35] <lastnode_> werdna_, ? #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic stuff please
[10:35] <AstralJava> Peacer: Yes, you need to set up correct permissions on directory-level.
[10:35] <Tiggy> If i dont get VLC working im gonna have to switch to windows :(
[10:35] <dpupp> tribbe, install alsa-utils and then type alsamixer in a terminal.
[10:35] <dpupp> tiggy, whats the problem again?
[10:35] <Tiggy> No sound, using ALSA
[10:35] <tibbe> dpupp, I've started ALSA mixer
[10:35] <Tiggy> in VLC
[10:36] <secleinteer> to everyone that helped me fix the problem i was having, thank you so much. i'm finally back in ubuntu, and no fscking fscking on start up any more :P
[10:36] <Peacer> ahh just found out
[10:36] <lastnode_> Tiggy, it's probably a drmed file. try another movie? then you know it's on vlc
[10:36] <heyjoe52> ok im getting an error in my terminal while installing a program, dunno what i should do. It says E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:36] <heyjoe52> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:36] <Tiggy> lastnode_:tried many movies
[10:36] <nekun> need a little help, i installed xubuntu  in my old computer, all went well, now i want to do it for my new one that has 2 disks one wheres is the windows and the other one with some stuff, im going to copy the things on the second disk to the one where the windows is, then divide the second disk by 2 and one of the parts destinated to install ubuntu, upun installing ubuntu does the dual boot opcion appears automaticaly or do i have to do anything
[10:36] <AstralJava> Peacer: Go up one level from the directory you want to use, and then issue `sudo chown -R user:group directory/` and apply correct information for user, group and directory.
[10:36] <Flannel> heyjoe52: do you have synaptic or update manager running?
[10:36] <dpupp> heyjoe52, close synaptic...
[10:36] <nekun> (sorry for the longe text)
[10:36] <heyjoe52> synaptic is running, yes
[10:36] <heyjoe52> ahh
[10:36] <forbidden_fruit> meathead: whats the name of the third party app to write to ntfs?
[10:37] <Tiggy> i think that app is called windows :P
[10:37] <Flannel> !tell nekun about dualboot # minus the HowTo on the first link
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualboot # minus the HowTo on the first link - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <dpupp> no sound in vlc... and it plays in other apps using alsa? ...
[10:37] <Flannel> heh
[10:37] <Tiggy> yes
[10:37] <Flannel> !tell nekun about dualboot
[10:37] <forbidden_fruit> help me run it on linux Tiggy :P
[10:37] <Tiggy> cant help ya there
[10:37] <dpupp> ok, run vlc, and open the movie in there, then go to the audio menu...
[10:38] <nekun> tks Flannel going to read :)
[10:38] <Tiggy> ok
[10:38] <Tiggy> yes...
[10:38] <s|k_> :)
[10:38] <KillerDemon> forbidden_fruit:  http://www.linux-ntfs.org/content/blogcategory/0/50/
[10:38] <meathead> forbidden_fruit: I forget, I never used it. ubuntuforums.org
[10:38] <cogi> Hi guys
[10:38] <nekun> Flannel it says page doesnt exist :|
[10:38] <s|k_> how do I recover a nick?
[10:38] <Tiggy> brb dinner
[10:39] <forbidden_fruit> thanks KillerDemon , meathead
[10:39] <Flannel> nekun: remove the HowTo at the end of the url
[10:39] <nekun> tks
[10:39] <cogi> what is going on
[10:40] <s|k_> what port is ssh?
[10:40] <cogi> ok do i have a bad breath?
[10:40] <KillerDemon> 22
[10:40] <s|k_> thanks
[10:40] <nekun> hun pretty easy tks FlimFlamMan
[10:40] <nekun> *Flannel
[10:41] <cogi> i am real
[10:41] <AstralJava> cogi: ??? If one wants to chat, one ought to go to #ubuntu-offtopic, this chatroom is reserved for user help. :)
[10:41] <cogi> really real
[10:41] <cogi> ok sorry
[10:41] <TheThingsThatWer> which is a better boot loader, LILO  or GRUB?
[10:41] <AstralJava> cogi: No prob. :)
[10:42] <meathead> GRUB
[10:42] <meathead> is now the more popular choice
[10:42] <meathead> therefore making it the better
[10:42] <meathead> in all reality, you don't need anyone else's opinion on a bootloader, just use one
[10:43] <Peacer> AstralJava that line fucked up like everything
[10:43] <ese5> how do you compile a driver out of the linux-headers packages?
[10:43] <Peacer> how do i undo this...
[10:44] <Flannel> !language
[10:44] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:44] <AstralJava> Peacer: How do you mean?
[10:44] <Peacer> i cna't do anything :S
[10:44] <Peacer> tried to sudo mkdir /ins
[10:44] <Peacer> didn't work
[10:45] <Peacer> sudo: must be setuid root
[10:45] <AstralJava> Peacer: So does your user have sudo power?
[10:45] <sn00p> Has anybody tried running ubuntu on x64 platforms?
[10:45] <Peacer> AstralJava yes it had
[10:45] <meathead> it amazes me when people hang out here, and instead of saying "wine /path.exe" to someone, they just go !wine or !language
[10:45] <meathead> get a job people
[10:46] <DARKGuy> o0...
[10:46] <ese5> @@
[10:46] <DARKGuy> o_
[10:46] <Peacer> do you know how to undo this?
[10:46] <AstralJava> Peacer: Can you go up one level of that directory you wanted to create, and issue `ls -l`
[10:47] <ardin> ciao
[10:47] <Peacer> done
[10:47] <AstralJava> Peacer: Then let us know the line that concerns this directory, only that one line, please. :)
[10:47] <Warbo> Can someone help me confirm a bug?
[10:47] <s|k_> how do I get information about how much space is on hda?
[10:47] <Peacer> peacer root
[10:47] <Warbo> s|k_: "df"
[10:47] <s|k_> thanks
[10:47] <Peacer> that's what i did at user:group in that line
[10:48] <AstralJava> Warbo: Depends, what kind of problem is it?
[10:48] <Peacer> do i do root:root to fix it?
[10:48] <Warbo> xteddy doesn't work. I thought it was to do with AIGLX, but I've fixed my Xorg and it still doesn't work
[10:48] <AstralJava> Peacer: Can you paste that line of that ls -l command output, please?
[10:48] <Peacer> no
[10:48] <Peacer> this one is on windoez ;)
[10:49] <AstralJava> Peacer: Ok. :) Then issue `chown -R root:root directory`, that ought to bring it back like it was before.
[10:49] <Peacer> k
[10:49] <heyjoe52> i just downloaded a file and installed it but cant see it anywhere, where would it go by default and is there a way to make it go to applications?
[10:50] <Warbo> It usually goes to $HOME/Desktop
[10:50] <heyjoe52> just the .dep there, but it says its already installed
[10:50] <Warbo> Installed files go to /usr or /usr/local
[10:50] <Tiggy> back
[10:50] <DARKGuy> Anyways :/ is there a way to make an app get the changes in .Xdefaults without having to restart X?
[10:50] <Warbo> .deb files usually get installed to /usr, the executable will be in /usr/bin
[10:50] <Tiggy> dpupp?
[10:51] <AstralJava> Warbo: Ahh, sorry, no such things in here. Maybe someone else can? Sorry about that...
[10:51] <tibbe> how to restore Ubuntu's default sound/ALSA/mic settings?
[10:51] <Tiggy> Dpupp are you there?
[10:51] <Peacer> AstralJava it doesn't :(
[10:52] <AstralJava> Peacer: Why, what's wrong now?
[10:52] <Peacer> still the same
[10:52] <AstralJava> Peacer: Okay, so you're in / directory, right?
[10:52] <ardin> quit
[10:52] <Peacer> yep
[10:53] <Peacer> \o Arbiter
[10:53] <sai> seconded for tibbe's question
[10:53] <Peacer> ardin*
[10:53] <Tiggy> Can anyone help me with sound problems on ALC?
[10:53] <AstralJava> Peacer: And you want to create a directory /ins, correct? And you want to be able to write there, correct?
[10:53] <heyjoe52> well i see it in usr, but it wont open, does it have to open with another application?
[10:54] <DARKGuy> Oh well... :/ bye then
[10:54] <Tiggy> join #alc
[10:54] <Tiggy> Can anyone help me with sound problems on VLC?
[10:54] <Peacer> i don't even have sudo powers
[10:55] <Elephantium> Peacer:  Why not?
[10:55] <AstralJava> Peacer: Well that command didn't do anything to your user, it just changed a directory ownership, that's all.
[10:59] <ubuntu> Booo.
[10:59] <Peacer> you got me to do it in / directory
[10:59] <AstralJava> Peacer: Can you do `sudo cat /etc/sudoers` ?
[11:00] <Peacer> nope
[11:00] <Peacer> sudo: must be setuid root
[11:01] <heyjoe52> if i have to change a file directory location using root, how would i go about doing that?
[11:01] <AstralJava> Peacer: Did you do `sudo chown -R user:group /`, if so, then that changed the whole root directory level, which was _not_ what I instructed, but instead the directory that you created.
[11:02] <Peacer> AstralJava do you know how to solve it?
[11:02] <AstralJava> Peacer: Let me search for the solution. It might take a while, so don't be scared that I ran away, okay? :)
[11:03] <trygg_> Can someone name a docker with a notification area? :D
[11:03] <Peacer> sure won't xD
[11:03] <AstralJava> Peacer: Okay good. :)
[11:03] <Peacer> will it take longer than a reinstall?
[11:03] <Peacer> of ubuntu?
[11:05] <Peacer> AstralJava?
[11:06] <AstralJava> Peacer: Well a reinstall is a rather extreme solution, do you have any sensitive data that you wouldn't want to lose? If so, then reinstall is risky.
[11:06] <Peacer> i installed ubuntu a couple of hours ago
[11:06] <AstralJava> Peacer: Ah.. then, a reinstall might just be fastest. :)
[11:06] <Peacer> ok
[11:07] <AstralJava> Peacer: And next time, try to remember that you don't want to change the root directory itself. :)
[11:07] <Peacer> hehe sure will
[11:08] <sai> how do i erase cd-rw ?
[11:08] <AstralJava> Peacer: Okay good, and sorry if my instructions were confusing. I'll try to make them better the next time.
[11:08] <Peacer> np
[11:10] <vertigo> hello
[11:11] <visualnets> hello
[11:11] <jenda> Can somebody recommend an RSS reader for Ubuntu?
[11:11] <jenda> hello, vertigo and visualnets
[11:11] <visualnets> hello jenda
[11:11] <visualnets> I am a fresher to use linux
[11:12] <Gibbster> Hi. Sound works perfectly, but for some reason it doesn't work when I plug some speakers into the headphone port. Any thoughts? Thanks
[11:12] <Gibbster> If it helps, I'm running on a dell inspiron 9100
[11:12] <jenda> visualnets: Can we help? ;)
[11:12] <damo22> erm peacer, sounds like reinstall would be quicker
[11:13] <jean> hello
[11:13] <vertigo> jenda, i would suggest firefox
[11:13] <vertigo> or thunderbird
[11:13] <damo22> you really trashed the permissions eh
[11:13] <Gibbster> I thought it might be a mixer issue, but the headphone levels are up
[11:13] <jenda> vertigo: I use both... lemme check TB's options.
[11:14] <visualnets> jean i am a fresher i donnot know about Linux or Unix rss reader
[11:16] <heyjoe52> arg i just installed wine on my computer but i have no idea how to even get the blasted thing to turn on
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> heyjoe52: wine "somefile.exe"
[11:16] <sai> any help of erasing / burning iso on the already written cd-rw media ?
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> sai: right click on iso > write to disc
[11:17] <sai> fyrestrtr: lol, thx
[11:17] <holycow> yey
[11:17] <holycow> dvd now plays
[11:17] <AstralJava> sai: Apart from just using gnomebaker or graveman, nope, not really. I never use cd-rw's, just plain cd-r's. :)
[11:17] <syntaxx> my grub doesnt detect my windows system what line do i need to put for grub to detect my windows?
[11:18] <visualnets> who can tell me about ubuntu,because i used Madrake Fedora Core1(very old) redflag and UNIX freeBSD
[11:18] <visualnets> sorry for my english
[11:18] <HeathenDan> go to the website ubuntu.com
[11:18] <valehru> anyone know a wireless network viewer utility?
[11:18] <sai> though, tried using cdrdao and cdrecord from console, got an error that device was busy, weird
[11:19] <ookami> to starrt google earth in linux i just type: googleearth right?
[11:19] <visualnets> HeathenDan:thanks
[11:20] <AstralJava> syntaxx: I have such in my grub menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21195
[11:20] <holycow> ookami, only if you installed it with a deb package
[11:20] <holycow> ookami, however, if you downloaded it and just extracted it
[11:20] <ookami> hmmm... no i used automatix...
[11:20] <holycow> just double click on it
[11:20] <holycow> oh fuck
[11:20] <AstralJava> syntaxx: Check it out, and replace the hard drive info with your system's correct info.
[11:20] <holycow> you use automatix?
[11:20] <holycow> jesus
[11:20] <holycow> !automatix
[11:20] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[11:20] <DBO> holycow, watch your language
[11:20] <syntaxx> AstralJava: ok where is it?
[11:20] <holycow> ookami, i strongly recommend not using that piece of crap
[11:21] <visualnets> Jesus?oh my god Amazing grace
[11:21] <AstralJava> syntaxx: The file? It's in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:21] <ookami> holycow why not?
[11:21] <HeathenDan> holy mary!
[11:21] <holycow> becuase it bypasses all the normal packaging managemetn in ubuntu
[11:21] <holycow> its also written by someone who doesn't have a clue but has a great desire to disprove it
[11:22] <syntaxx> AstralJava: yeah i alreacy check it out i mean what to put in there? title WindowsXP rootnoverify (hd0,1) chainloader +1?
[11:22] <holycow> meaning they will never play by the rules and keep things sane, for example you will never be able to use apt and remove an automatix app
[11:22] <holycow> it will also do god knows what to your system config
[11:22] <visualnets> chinese ubuntu only support KDE?I am a gnome user
[11:22] <jenda> Is there a way to tell thunderbird to display images in an RSS feed?
[11:22] <holycow> if you want to use something that actually seems to play by the rules and wont harm your system, try easyubuntu
[11:22] <ubuntu> hi guys
[11:22] <holycow> !easyubuntu
[11:22] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[11:22] <ubuntu> whats up
[11:23] <ookami> hmmm. well, too late ^_^ didnt know that.
[11:23] <visualnets> why not use Mozilla on linux
[11:23] <AstralJava> syntaxx: Yes, that is a snippet of what reads in my menu.lst, you should paste that into the file, and then run `sudo update-grub` after saving the file.
[11:23] <Hagbarddenstore> Whoooaaa! It's dpkg --configure xserver-xorg <-- Reconfigure X right?
[11:23] <ubuntu> ubotu:  hello
[11:23] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (dapper), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[11:23] <ookami> could someone correct me if im wrong; bash: googleearth: command not found
[11:23] <AstralJava> syntaxx: Replace the (hd0,0) part with what is correct in your system.
[11:24] <|thunder-afk> syntaxx, Title winXP |  root (hd0,1) | savedefault | makeactive| chainloader +1 | will work just dandy.
[11:24] <sai> ookami: use Tab in bash
[11:24] <AstralJava> Hagbarddenstore: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:24] <ookami> sai, what do you mean?
[11:24] <Hagbarddenstore> AstralJava:  Aahhhh
[11:24] <sai> type google and press Tab a severeal times
[11:24] <sai> several*
[11:24] <ookami> ah! thanks!
[11:24] <|thunder-afk> ookami, type goo in prompt and hit tab twice
[11:25] <syntaxx> ok
[11:25] <syntaxx> thanks
[11:25] <ookami> interesting! thanks
[11:25] <sai> that's essential, don't forget that
[11:26] <|thunder-afk> xchat has tab completion as well
[11:26] <ubuntu> |thunder-afk: most client do
[11:26] <sai> as well as irssi ;)
[11:26] <ubuntu> even gaim has it
[11:27] <syntaxx> AstralJava: when i update-grub he removes my windows xp entry in there
[11:28] <ubuntu> well bbl guys
[11:28] <ubuntu> tc all
[11:28] <ubuntu> cya
[11:28] <AstralJava> syntaxx: Hmm... damn, I didn't know it does that. I've got to investigate, unless someone else knows the problem. Please hang on for a while.
[11:29] <lukem> hey all
[11:29] <Lane> Hey, ninja
[11:30] <lukem> how can I reinstall alsa or re configure it? my sound has gone weird, it crackles and is distorted, It is not my speakers, as it sounds fine in Windows. Any ideas?
[11:30] <|thunder-afk> i love man pages "Most users will want to use modprobe(8) instead, which is cleverer."
[11:32] <t-thing_> Hi. Can I make it so that when my laptop is on battery frequency scaling is active and when on the cord it's not active?
[11:33] <dsas> t-thing_: You could stop and start the "powernowd" program yourself....
[11:33] <dsas> t-thing_: I can't understand why you'd want to though :)
[11:33] <chops-> whats the command to allow telnet access ?
[11:33] <holycow> you can also install extra bits to let you choose th eprocessor speed or whether its automatically scaled
[11:34] <hush> hey guys - I'm trying to install Java. But in my Terminal window it is telling me to enter in a password.. and I enter my password and it still says Authentication failure..does it mean my Ubuntu login passoword?
[11:34] <nox-Hand> When I have two folders full of stuff I want to merge, but there are subfolders with same name (( like foo/test and /foo2/test )) without it first removing the one test folder. I mean, like, only duplicate FILES are removed, not the non-duplicate
[11:34] <nox-Hand> That probably didnt come out right..
[11:34] <|thunder> hush, do you have admin privs ?
[11:34] <dsas> chops-: You don't want telnet.
[11:34] <hush> |thunder: I'm not sure
[11:34] <dsas> chops-: If you want remove access, install openssh-server on the computer you want to access.
[11:35] <lukem> hmm
[11:35] <|thunder> is that the only user ?
[11:35] <SpComb> remote or remove?
[11:35] <hush> |thunder: how do i get admin privs
[11:35] <hush> yes
[11:35] <|thunder> the one you created with the setup ?
[11:35] <dsas> chops-: Then go to the terminal and type ssh loginname@computername
[11:35] <hush> yes
[11:35] <dsas> chops-: If you want to telnet to a computer type "telnet computername"
[11:35] <horrork> Is skype in Synatic?
[11:35] <holycow> chops-, we STRONGLY urge you not to use telnet
[11:36] <Flannel> !tell horrork about skype
[11:36] <holycow> infact that should never be installed, its very insecure
[11:36] <SpComb> telnet is deprecated for remote access
[11:36] <holycow> try to use ssh always
[11:36] <ookami> is there a way i can probe to see if my fans on my notebook are working? it seems they dont accelerate under load...
[11:36] <horrork> ?
[11:36] <SpComb> ssh is a great protocol
[11:36] <Flannel> horrork: check your PMs - ubotu sent you info
[11:36] <rixxon> telnet is no less secure than ftp or http; but noone complains about them :P
[11:36] <horrork> What about skype?
[11:36] <hush> |thunder: still there?
[11:36] <rixxon> (hint: use https and sftp/scp)
[11:36] <|thunder> hush, system/admin/users and groups. pick yourself and hit properties. then over to privileges. make sure admin taks is checked.
[11:36] <dsas> rixxon: You don't send your usernames and passwords over ftp and http do you?
[11:36] <holycow> rixxon, thats the dumbest thing anyone can possibly say
[11:36] <sai> hush: sudo apt-get install java
[11:36] <rixxon> dsas, depends on configuration.
[11:37] <t-thing_> dsas: You don't understand why I want frequency scaling based on the power source? Well, on the go I like to conserve energy for better uptime and the cord I don't like the sluggishness frequency scaling sometimes gives me.
[11:37] <holycow> ftp isn't used for administering system
[11:37] <sai> then type your password
[11:37] <dsas> rixxon: Like you just said, sftp and and https :)
[11:37] <rixxon> hollywoodstar, you can f* up a system pretty bad if you get root access to the ftp aswell.
[11:37] <Lattyware> Hey all, I want to convert video (ogm, mkv, avi) (with subs, It's anime) to DVD (for playing on a DVD player, not just burning the files to disk), any suggestions on what apps I could use?
[11:37] <tony_> Need help: usb pen worked fine till i tried an istall of DSL USB-HDD on it. Ok it didnt boot but that is not the case, now i cant detect it in ubuntu even!crazy huh? "lsusb" lists it on Bus 001 Device 002 - for mounting is that usb1 or usb2? jus want to format it!!
[11:37] <ookami> Does anyone know how to check a fan status on a notebook?
[11:38] <rixxon> hollywoodstar, my point was simply, that any protocol with authentication should be SSLd.
[11:38] <dsas> t-thing_: It shouldn't really give you any sluggishness. As far as I know stopping and starting the powernowd program is the only way to enable/disable frequency changing though.
[11:38] <sai> !laptop
[11:38] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[11:38] <rixxon> hollywoodstar, sorry, misstabbing.
[11:38] <rixxon> holycow, those were for you :P
[11:38] <|thunder> ookami, try gkrellm2
[11:38] <ossie> hi guys 2 questions, how do i check system stats like temperature, and also where do i chekc the logs for my system hanging when i leave it alone for a few hours?
[11:38] <ookami> will check
[11:39] <dsas> lss
[11:39] <joaquim> i m a beginner 57 years old sorry!!
[11:39] <|thunder> ossie, try gkrellm for temps and fan speeds
[11:39] <dsas> ossie: Try /var/log/messages, /var/log/kern.log for log messages
[11:39] <holycow> joaquim, never too old bro :)
[11:39] <ossie> cheers guys
[11:39] <joaquim> thanks
[11:39] <dsas> ossie: Also if you're using gnome try adding a gnome applet, by right clicking on the panel and selecting "add to panel"
[11:39] <edgy> Hi, how can I change the default encoding of squirrelmail to utf-8?
[11:40] <dsas> ossie: That will get you various applets for things like temperature, etc
[11:40] <holycow> joaquim, the most important thing you will find after a while here is freedom ... freedom to explore and learn as much or as little as you want.  no prepackaged assumptions :)
[11:40] <Lattyware> Hey all, I want to convert video (ogm, mkv, avi) (with subs, It's anime) to DVD (for playing on a DVD player, not just burning the files to disk), any suggestions on what apps I could use?
[11:40] <_cerberus_> For some reason my ip-up doesn't seem to be executing when I pon or at least one of the scripts isn't being executed, does anyone know why or where to look?
[11:40] <jdskate98> hi, my /boot is almost full
[11:40] <jdskate98> what do i do?
[11:40] <joaquim> I love ubuntu philosophy
[11:40] <|thunder> Lattyware, try ffmepg or mplayer for conversion. for composing dvd, i dunnp
[11:41] <|thunder> *dunno
[11:41] <ossie> dsas what is the name of the temperature applet?
[11:41] <t-thing_> dsas: Stopping and starting it could somehow be connected to acpi.. or something. It does give me that when the load rises suddenly and significantly. It seems to scale up with a small delay which does especially show in multimedia apps and sometimes even on firefox.
[11:41] <Lattyware> |thunder: Thanks, I'll check them out.
[11:41] <jdskate98> anyone know?
[11:41] <jdskate98> can i just remove older kernels?
[11:41] <dsas> ossie: scroll down to "system & hardware" then laptop temperature monitor
[11:41] <|thunder> yacc, but i dont know hiw
[11:42] <dsas> t-thing_: powernowd is the program that stops and starts the frequency scaling
[11:42] <chops-> holycow ssh is what i mean to open is there some setting that is blocking the access ?
[11:42] <ossie> dsas this aint a laptop and that laptop temperature monitor is not shown
[11:42] <holycow> chops-, no its jus tnot installed
[11:42] <holycow> chops-, install it
[11:42] <forbidden_fruit> What is this application? Some window manager? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Xgl_cube.png
[11:42] <jdskate98> Xgl
[11:42] <AstralJava> jdskate98: Sure you can, if you never boot them and newer ones are guaranteed to work.
[11:43] <jdskate98> AstralJava: uhm, it's weird
[11:43] <horrork> Ok, I got:  skype: Depends: libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1) but it is not installable
[11:43] <horrork> So what do I do?
[11:43] <jdskate98> i just got Xgl and reinstalled nvidia kernel stuff
[11:43] <forbidden_fruit> jdskate98: what is it? a window manager? can i use in on ubuntu?
[11:43] <dsas> ossie: Have you got laptoptemp package installed?
[11:43] <jdskate98> forbidden_fruit: Xgl is a compositing version of X
[11:44] <SpComb> actually, ubuntu is a set of prepackaged assumptions, no?
[11:44] <chops-> holycow whats the commands to install the ssh
[11:44] <dsas> ossie: It says laptop, there's no reason why it won't work on a desktop too
[11:44] <ossie> no dsas will it work for desktop? what is it called so i can apt-get it?
[11:44] <tony_> dmesg gives me "usb 1-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110" on my usb pen drive. it seems like ubunut tried to mount it- can i try it manually? is usb 1-2 = dev/usb1?
[11:44] <ossie> cheers dsas
[11:44] <dsas> ossie: "laptoptemp"
[11:44] <jdskate98> AstralJava: and uhh, it isntalled .25
[11:44] <jdskate98> even though i have .26
[11:44] <SpComb> you can choice which assumptions you want to use and there's somethings various choices
[11:44] <forbidden_fruit> jdskate98: can it be installed on ubuntu?
[11:44] <jdskate98> forbidden_fruit: google is your friend, but yes
[11:44] <holycow> chops-, system/admin/synaptic
[11:44] <DrFinn> Hello ! where can a find some Grub splash screens ?
[11:44] <horrork> I am trying to install Skype but I got:  skype: Depends: libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1) but it is not installable
[11:44] <horrork> So what do I do?
[11:45] <forbidden_fruit> thanks jdskate98
[11:45] <jdskate98> sure
[11:45] <ese5> "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error:
[11:46] <ese5> C compiler cannot create executables
[11:46] <ese5> what the heck?
[11:46] <jdskate98> AstralJava: ?
[11:46] <dsas> ese5: Do you have build-essential installed?
[11:46] <Flannel> ese5: you need build-essential
[11:46] <AstralJava> jdskate98: Err... which installed .25?
[11:46] <jdskate98> AstralJava: nvidia-kernel-common i believe, not sure
[11:47] <ese5> flannel:  umm..  :-D
[11:47] <jdskate98> wait no
[11:47] <AstralJava> jdskate98: Okay, but do you boot to .26? If so, does nvidia module work correctly?
[11:47] <Flannel> !tell ese5 about compile
[11:47] <jdskate98> AstralJava: 2.6.15-23
[11:47] <ese5> flannel:  that did it.. thanks
[11:48] <jdskate98> even though -25 exists
[11:48] <horrork> I am trying to install Skype but I got:  skype: Depends: libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1) but it is not installable.... so how do I work around this?
[11:48] <jdskate98> as does -26
[11:48] <t-thing_> dsas: Yeah, I know. I could do it manually but I rather have it done automatically :)
[11:49] <AstralJava> (12:47:23) AstralJava: jdskate98: Okay, but do you boot to .26? If so, does nvidia module work correctly?
[11:51] <DrFinn> does anyone know some websites where I can find some grub splash screens?
[11:52] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> gnome-look and kde-look have "some"
[11:52] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> if you look hard enough
[11:52] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> im sure google has a bunch more
[11:52] <sai> horrork: add this to the repositories http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/
[11:53] <Nookie> hi! is there anywhere where i can get BIG posters or something like that to put in my computershop to show ubuntu for people!?
[11:53] <sai> horrork: also might have to add other extra repositories if not already done that
[11:53] <sai> a pitty that ubuntuguide.org is down atm
[11:54] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> Nookie: that's a damn good question
[11:54] <Flannel> !tell horrork about skype
[11:55] <ompaul> !ubuntuguide
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:55] <Tidus> Nookie: i'd just set up a demo machine with ubuntu on it to let people play with
[11:55] <ompaul> sai, I don't know what it is like now, but it used to have both out of date and innacurate info
[11:56] <Flannel> the wiki has everything ubuntuguide covered, and more.
[11:56] <Nookie> GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop: hehe yeah... but i think that it's very needed such stuff... i have already 2 computers running in my shop to show people =)
[11:56] <avis> it seems that aMSN, gaim, and kopete are incompatible with the latest windows vista live streaming/audio/video protocol.
[11:56] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> Oh ya I agree, it's good advertising
[11:57] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> I'd be all for something like that
[11:57] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> I got my ten ubuntu stickers :D
[11:57] <Nookie> hehe yes
[11:57] <sai> i used to go there for help now and then, also a good place for starters like me, but if you say that wiki is better, then will try to stick with it in the future
[11:57] <avis> GigaByte_, would ya mail me one ?
[11:57] <avis> err
[11:57] <avis> GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop, [
[11:57] <jdskate98>   gnome-terminal: Depends: gnome-terminal-data (= 2.14.2-0ubuntu1) but 2.14.2-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[11:57] <jdskate98> what do i do
[11:57] <avis> would ya ?
[11:57] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> You can get em for free avis
[11:57] <avis> okies
[11:57] <avis> from where ?
[11:57] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> Order the 10 cds from ubuntu.com
[11:57] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> it comes with the cds
[11:58] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> The cds are free
[11:58] <sai> anyone know wher I could get hardware related help ?
[11:58] <jdskate98> sai, #hardware
[11:58] <Andre4s> need to install the kernel headers, what is the name of the package?
[11:58] <avis> i aint waiting 3 months for my ubuntu sticker ! }8(
[11:58] <sai> jdskate98: ;)
[11:58] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> avis: it only took 3 weeks for me
[11:58] <avis> okies
[11:58] <avis> i need cd's
[11:58] <jdskate98> gnome-terminal: Depends: gnome-terminal-data (= 2.14.2-0ubuntu1) but 2.14.2-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[11:58] <jdskate98> please help
[11:59] <avis> jdskate98, go to synaptic and search for the missing package, install it, then install the oddball original package.
[11:59] <jdskate98> avis: ?
[11:59] <avis> synaptic
[11:59] <jdskate98> you're dealing with a nubbie
[12:00] <avis> system - > administration - > synaptic
[12:00] <jdskate98> i know that part
[12:00] <jdskate98> search for the missing package, install it, then install the oddball original package.
[12:00] <avis> then do "find"
[12:00] <jdskate98> yes?
[12:00] <avis> look for gnome-terminal-data
[12:00] <avis> or from terminal learn this do a apt-cache search gnome-terminal-data
[12:00] <ossie> i was trying do this last night but it didnt work can anyone see whats wrong ln -s ($find -name *.mp3) /mnt/Music/$file
[12:01] <avis> and see what it says
[12:01] <jdskate98> uhm, it's trying to install ubuntu2, but i need ubuntu1 obviously
[12:01] <avis> what is ubuntu1 or ubuntu2 ?
[12:02] <manmadha> can any one tell how to install gmailfs??
[12:02] <jdskate98> did you read what i wrote???
[12:02] <jdskate98> gnome-terminal: Depends: gnome-terminal-data (= 2.14.2-0ubuntu1) but 2.14.2-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[12:02] <avis> so why not install it ?
[12:02] <avis> thats the beauty of ubuntu
[12:02] <Andre4s> need to install the kernel headers, what is the name of the package?
[12:02] <paul_> hi, is there a way to manually download a .deb file for ubuntu dapper? (networking is down and I'd like to download some debs from my other pc)
[12:02] <avis> it resolves dependencies
[12:02] <jdskate98> avis: uhh no, that's not ubuntu
[12:02] <jdskate98> that's deb, from debian
[12:02] <avis> okieas
[12:02] <lastnode> Andre4s, linux-headers*
[12:02] <avis> same concept
[12:02] <KillerDemon> jdskate98 ubuntu is debian based
[12:03] <lastnode> Andre4s, apt-cache search linux-headers*
[12:03] <avis> yes
[12:03] <jdskate98> KillerDemon: i just said that
[12:03] <avis> but its still the beauty of ubuntu
[12:03] <jdskate98> and many package managers resolve dependencies
[12:03] <avis> we are legion.
[12:03] <avis> UBUNTU
[12:03] <jdskate98> if that's the only beauty of ubuntu, i feel sorry for it
[12:03] <manmadha> i have some problem with jabber......( i can't login into the gmail account.....)plz help me
[12:03] <avis> oh poo you all need some pina coladas
[12:03] <jdskate98> ubuntu's beauty is ease of use
[12:03] <avis> use ??
[12:03] <avis> installation ?
[12:04] <jdskate98> no, ease of USE
[12:04] <No1Viking> fglrxinfo is ok but screensaver is slow, what is wrong?
[12:04] <chops-> any reason i can't ssh into the box ?
[12:04] <jdskate98> anyway, forget it
[12:04] <jdskate98> i need ubuntu1
[12:04] <Flannel> chops-: you don't have ssh-server installed yet?
[12:04] <jdskate98> it has ubuntu2
[12:04] <jdskate98> no clue what to do now
[12:04] <chops-> yes i do
[12:04] <jdskate98> or how to install specific versions
[12:04] <avis> ease of installation.. ease of use.. an extensive database of hardware troubeshooting, people joining together to tweak its corners
[12:04] <chops-> i installed it from the area
[12:04] <Nookie> here is bug #1 in ubuntu.. very critical! https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 =) hehe
[12:05] <chops-> synaptic says its in the "installed" section
[12:05] <avis> jdskate do you know what installed ubuntu1 ?
[12:05] <jdskate98> avis: did you ever use another distro?
[12:05] <Flannel> chops-: then you should be able to.  Assuming your network connections are all good and forwarded and stuff
[12:05] <avis> yes
[12:05] <jdskate98> what?
[12:05] <avis> but i have used every ubuntu since the first
[12:06] <jdskate98> i'm avoiding my problem for some reason
[12:06] <binks_> can someone help me with a svn error
[12:06] <avis> uh redhat fedora suse mandrake mandriva and thats about it
[12:06] <Nookie> jdskate98: i know that problem because i had before same problems... but i gave up then to install that application
[12:06] <jdskate98> avis: no wonder you idolize ubuntu
[12:06] <chops-> brb
[12:06] <avis> jdskate98, i am not the only one
[12:06] <binks_> make: *** No rule to make target `distclean'.  Stop.
[12:06] <jdskate98> avis: yes, but it's still no wonder
[12:06] <jdskate98> you tried shit distros
[12:06] <No1Viking> Fglrxinfo is ok but screensaver is slow, what is wrong?
[12:06] <avis> it might not be the most ideal for a server platform but for a desktop its pretty nifty.
[12:07] <jdskate98> ubuntu is great, don't get me wrong
[12:07] <Flannel> binks_: that's not a svn error, sounds like a makefile problem
[12:07] <t-thing_> jdskate98: what was your problem again? Arguing with others or fixing a dependency problem?
[12:07] <binks_> what should i do
[12:07] <jdskate98> t-thing_: deps
[12:07] <binks_> im trying to install tovid from svn
[12:07] <avis> its no wonder, you are correct, but its rather smooth the way its documented and the ease of installation and learning the basics of system management.
[12:07] <Flannel> binks_: ah, you'll need to ask tovid people then, as it's all tovid specific
[12:08] <binks_> cheers i think there still in bed lol
[12:08] <avis> i tried suse 10.0 hah !  i pity the fool that is myself.  back to ubuntu :)
[12:08] <t-thing_> jdskate98: so, what is the package you trying to install?
[12:08] <binks_> suse was ok but the epos are mad
[12:08] <binks_> repos
[12:08] <milamber> morning evereone,
[12:08] <binks_> morning
[12:08] <milamber> is there an option to add to grub that u r able to boot from cd-roms, after the boot manager ?
[12:09] <jdskate98> t-thing_: give me a minute, sorry
[12:09] <binks_> why would you boot from cd after grub
[12:09] <Peacer> omg
[12:09] <jdskate98> i installed Xgl, and ubuntu uninstalled ubuntu-desktop and gnome-terminal
[12:09] <Peacer> shutting down lvm volume group shouldn't take that long
[12:09] <jdskate98> for some brilliant reason
[12:10] <milamber> @binks, some cd-roms wont boot, whem grub is installed, grub starts to fast i think
[12:10] <Flannel> jdskate98: #ubuntu-xgl is the place for XGL related problems (as it's not supported by ubuntu yet)
[12:10] <jdskate98> no, it's not an xgl problem
[12:10] <jdskate98> xgl works perfectly fine
[12:10] <binks_> surely thats a bios problem
[12:11] <jdskate98> and now ubuntu-desktop depends on gnome-terminal
[12:11] <avis> jdskate98, i have XGL with gnome terminal and ubuntu-desktop.  though i did not install from command line.
[12:11] <t-thing_> jdskate98: it is xgl problem. It's installation screw it up by uninstalling ubuntu-desktop
[12:11] <Flannel> it's an XGL problem if XGL hosed the rest of your system
[12:11] <milamber> @binks i now, buth i remember hat suse had that option in the boot loader, and it solves many problems
[12:11] <t-thing_> jdskate98: and for some brilliant reason you accept it
[12:11] <jdskate98> Flannel: no, that's an ubuntu problem, an Xgl problem is with it working incorrectly
[12:11] <binks_> ok
[12:11] <jdskate98> t-thing_: i'm actually pretty sure it's not Xgl
[12:11] <avis> jdskate98, i'm all good with all those things
[12:12] <jdskate98> might be my repos are hosed
[12:12] <Flannel> jdskate98: no, XGL caused the problem, it's a problem with xgl.  Because it conflicted with whatever, which has now put your system in a poor state.
[12:12] <t-thing_> jdskate98: when was the last time you did apt-get update?
[12:12] <jdskate98> around uhh
[12:12] <jdskate98> 5 minutes ago
[12:12] <avis> i have the mighty cube of never ending happiness and gnome terminals every other workspace.  its uhm nifty.
[12:12] <milamber> in witch reps is webmin located ? cant find it in synaptic
[12:13] <Flannel> milamber: as of dapper it isn't in the repos
[12:13] <milamber> damn pitty flannel
[12:13] <t-thing_> jdskate98: but like everybody else has said, it's probably a broken xgl package which is a problem that should be taken to #ubuntu-xgl
[12:13] <jdskate98> what am i uninstalling then
[12:13] <t-thing_> jdskate98: uninstall the xgl / install ubuntu-desktop
[12:14] <Flannel> jdskate98: you'd have to ask in #ubuntu-xgl, we don't have any idea.
[12:14] <jdskate98> t-thing_: lmao
[12:14] <jankoxp> I love ubuntu :)
[12:14] <richiefrich> what repo is build-essentials in ?
[12:14] <Flannel> richiefrich: main
[12:14] <t-thing_> jdskate98: you have a weird sense of humor
[12:14] <Flannel> richiefrich: er, no 's'
[12:14] <avis> ubuntu best linux experience i ever had
[12:15] <avis> i am tempted to try new things but i know nothing will compare to it
[12:15] <avis> and i've ALWAYS been a Gnome man
[12:15] <richiefrich> Flannel ty
[12:15] <jdskate98> t-thing_: thank you
[12:15] <holycow> avis, *high five*
[12:15] <holycow> :)
[12:15] <avis> hehe danke
[12:15] <milamber> is there a grapical interface to configure grub ? maybe i'll find there the option to boot from cd-rom ..
[12:15] <holycow> avis, indeed, kudos to the ubuntu and debian teams
[12:15] <avis> yes
[12:15] <tony_> now i found my usb pen memstick device on /dev/sdb1 with fdisk -l and try to reformat as fat32 but i get System Linux. if i want to mount this with mount -t manually what file vfstype is "linux" ext2?
[12:15] <avis> om mani padme hum
[12:15] <Flannel> milamber: You change that in your BIOS
[12:16] <t-thing_> tony_: How are you trying to reformat it and if you are doing that then why are you mounting?
[12:17] <milamber> @flannel i now, buth  some of the cdroms ive have wont boot directly, grub is coming up before  the cdrom boots, and yes i'm shure that te cdrom boots it boots on my laptop
[12:17] <Flannel> milamber: you need to change your BIOS to boot to the CDRom before the harddrive
[12:17] <Windy> phew found it
[12:18] <milamber> @flannel, first boot device is cdrom, seccond is hard drive, buth on this system it wont boot from sertain cd roms
[12:18] <Windy> sorry to beg for help as my opening line, but can someone tell me how to set home directory back to something via a terminal session?
[12:18] <tony_> t-thing_, i install bootable dsl on my  usb pen, i coudnt mount i . i fount it as fat32 on fdisk so i thought i would format it. but it turned out as "linux" type. i dont mind having fat32 again but i cant figure that out in fdisk
[12:19] <avis> milamber, do you mean certain media or certain atapi devices because i'd think you'd have more media than cdroms ???
[12:19] <psiborg> Windy: we're here to help, so don't worry about that.
[12:19] <Windy> reliefage
[12:19] <Windy> well i pwned my first install of any linux in 30mins
[12:19] <Windy> that's gotta be a record.
[12:19] <tony_> t-thing_,  file type 16 is fat32 and even if i write "a 16" and thn "w" i get type linux
[12:19] <Flannel> Windy: eh, Thats ok.  Fresh installs mean no data loss ;)
[12:19] <psiborg> Windy: Sounds pretty good :)
[12:19] <Windy> went and set my home directory to something else so it won't let me log in
[12:19] <Windy> i'm still sitting in the Windows school of thought that says if dir no existy, me makes dir and keeps a swimming
[12:20] <milamber> 2avis, certain media, eg as floppy disks and cdroms , there is one drive installed and one hard disk
[12:20] <Windy> don't spose anyone can tell me some sorta terminal command that i can fix the problem with?
[12:20] <avis> ahh ok
[12:20] <t-thing_> tony_: "a" is toggle bootable flag in fdisk
[12:20] <psiborg> Windy: if you can get to a terminal then you are logged in..
[12:21] <psiborg> Windy: if you can get to the part that lets you enter commands anyway ;)
[12:21] <tony_> t-thing_, how do i give command for format to fat 32? i tried just "16" but i got the same result
[12:21] <Windy> psiborg: i can
[12:21] <Windy> but i can't log in to the normal, pretty GUI stuff
[12:21] <avis> tony_ i used gparted to create fat32 worked great
[12:21] <Peacer> hmm
[12:22] <Peacer> i have three partitions in Gparted
[12:22] <_gpg_> hi
[12:22] <Peacer> ext3
[12:22] <Peacer> extended
[12:22] <Peacer> and
[12:22] <Peacer> linux-swap
[12:22] <Windy> bah, can i PM someone please and ask for help?
[12:22] <tony_> avis,  ill give that a try!
[12:22] <Peacer> which of them is created by the live cd?
[12:22] <t-thing_> tony_: let me just ask that it the dsl didn't work? You cold take a look at mkfs.ext2 or gparted as others have mentioned
[12:22] <Peacer> which partition should i delete?
[12:22] <richiefrich> Flannel  --> configure: WARNING: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***  <-- do i just need to --> sudo apt-get instal glibc
[12:23] <psiborg> Windy: i'll be afk for a bit, so i cant help you right now..
[12:23] <_gpg_> to install apache +php + apache modules for php i've just to do : sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[12:23] <richiefrich> install*
[12:23] <KillerDemon> Now playing: Goldie - Uncut - Midnight
[12:23] <_gpg_> or i should to install apache sperately ?
[12:23] <Windy> psiborg: pity that :(
[12:23] <avis> KillerDemon, i dont believe that playlist echoing is tolerable here.
[12:23] <tony_> t-thing_, should i use vfat?
[12:23] <KillerDemon> yes i noticed avis
[12:24] <slacker_nl> good day everyone
[12:24] <KillerDemon> too late though
[12:24] <Peacer> anyone?
[12:24] <avis> tony in gparted there is an option for fat32 you must give it msdos disklable
[12:24] <waspius> hello...these last days i have been instaling and uninstalling different things and now my desktop is going really slowly..how can i fix it?
[12:24] <avis> disklabel
[12:25] <Windy> err...can someone help me fix a noob mistake?
[12:26] <tony_> avis, thanx, it is listed under /boot now. i guess caus i installed dsl on it. maybe i can remove bootable from it.
[12:26] <avis> yes
[12:26] <AstralJava> Windy: What's that?
[12:26] <avis> you can remove all disklabels  then apply. then add a disklabel and partition. apply.  then choose format.
[12:27] <Windy> AstralJava: i set my home directory or whatever to something else so it won't let me log on
[12:27] <Windy> i can get into a terminal session, that's about it
[12:27] <Peacer> astrajava... which partition should i delete, ext3, extended or linux-swap?
[12:27] <Windy> mm...hope i used the right jargon :(
[12:27] <AstralJava> Windy: Type `whoami`in terminal.
[12:27] <tony_> avis, thx!
[12:27] <slacker_nl> got a gnome question: does anyone know in which file gnome stores the file preferences? eg open .avi with gxine
[12:27] <avis> tony__ or perhaps that has something to do with your fstab for some funky reason
[12:28] <AstralJava> Peacer: Why would you need to delete a partition?
[12:28] <Peacer> it's been messing up on me
[12:28] <AstralJava> Peacer: Please elaborate.
[12:28] <bobbydavro> !mp3
[12:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:28] <slacker_nl> !gnome
[12:28] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[12:28] <Troy> !windows
[12:28] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[12:28] <slacker_nl> !gnome file preferences
[12:28] <ubotu> gnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.12.2.3 (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 44 kB
[12:28] <Troy> !fstab
[12:28] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[12:29] <Troy> !partitions
[12:29] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:29] <Troy> okay... guess i will just ask... where is that script to auto fill the fstab?
[12:29] <AstralJava> Okay guys, please, you're making the channel flood and it's getting difficult to read what users who _need_ help are typing.
[12:29] <Windy> wee PMs ftw?
[12:29] <tony_> avis, how do i pick bootable? maybe that is what made it hard to detect in the forst place? or will that flag dissapear on formatting?
[12:30] <Peacer> AstralJava i've been having problems with the installer... it's been standing at 0% not actually doing anything i tried closing it and couldn't open it again... i thought it might be when partedit were inteferring in the installprocess... so doing it outside it instead... and was wondering which of the partitoins is the one for the live cd
[12:30] <ESPOiG> to change the distributor-logo.png in breezy u just pasted another one with the same name over the top, but with dapper it is different it dont work that way, does someone know howto change this
[12:30] <Troy> !mount
[12:31] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:31] <AstralJava> Peacer: Ahh... okay, sorry I have little experience with the LiveCD, maybe you could write a post on the ubuntu-users mailing list if there's no-one here who can help you now?
[12:31] <slacker_nl> got a gnome question: does anyone know in which file gnome stores the file preferences? eg open .avi with gxine
[12:31] <Windy> AstralJava: what next?
[12:32] <AstralJava> Windy: What did it output?
[12:32] <Windy> nada
[12:32] <t-thing_> slacker_nl: gnome preferences are stored within gconf
[12:32] <suye20> Hoal de nuevo
[12:32] <Peacer> hmm
[12:32] <Troy> sorry to be such a bother, but anyone tell me where i can find the script that auto mounts all windows drives and what not? i have found it in this channel before
[12:32] <Windy> hmm
[12:32] <AstralJava> Windy: Hmm... that's weird. So you're using a terminal but not logged in by any user. I'm sorry, I don't know what to do next.
[12:32] <Windy> it was like
[12:33] <Peacer> AstralJava could you try opening gparted, rightclick on the partition you are on right now and see what it says under status?
[12:33] <Windy> a@Celerity:/$ `whoami
[12:33] <Windy> >`whoami
[12:33] <Windy> and that was it
[12:33] <slacker_nl> t-thing_: thnx
[12:33] <Peacer> i am Peacer :P
[12:34] <t-thing_> slacker_nl: np
[12:34] <waspius> any ideas?
[12:34] <Windy> AstralJava: well basically i tried to change my home directory and  it didn't like it
[12:34] <AstralJava> Peacer: My partition is Mounted on /dev/.static/dev
[12:34] <Windy> s'pose i hop into recovery mode :/
[12:34] <AstralJava> Windy: No, you don't add those ticks there, I only separated the command here inside them. Don't include them when you type that command in the terminal.
[12:35] <slacker_nl> t-thing_: hmm, its not really what I want, I would like to change some of the things manual
[12:35] <|thunder> Windy, try changing the mount point in fstab and do a "mount -a"
[12:35] <Peacer> ahh thank you
[12:35] <Windy> d'oh....
[12:35] <Windy> let me boot it up again
[12:35] <Peacer> AstralJava do you have gparted open?
[12:36] <AstralJava> Peacer: Yes I do.
[12:36] <Peacer> ok
[12:36] <Windy> |thunder: i installed linux this morning on a whim, i wouldn't know the foggiest what fstab is sorry.
[12:36] <Peacer> rightclick on the partition you are using and press information
[12:36] <AstralJava> Peacer: This is what I did earlier.
[12:36] <Troy> okay... so here is the deal... seems my master boot record has gone bad, so i need to reinstall grub
[12:36] <Troy> anyone able to help me do though via a live CD?
[12:37] <|thunder> Windy, right on. thats a text file that holds the setting to auto mount partitions to directories on startup.
[12:37] <Peacer> what does it say under active:
[12:37] <Bader> hi
[12:37] <t-thing_> slacker_nl: yeah, it's kinda tricky compared to traditional config files. Try gconf-editor and gconftool-2
[12:37] <Windy> |thunder: umm...considering what it's telling me, i'm guessing all i need to do is figure out how to change home directory back to /home/a from /home/admin
[12:38] <AstralJava> Peacer: Sorry, I see no "active:" under Information dialog
[12:38] <|thunder> Windy, i think  were talking about 2 different problems
[12:38] <ESPOiG> how do you run beagle, i just installed via apt-get but no link in menu and the command beagle just aint there
[12:39] <Windy> |thunder: methinks we are
[12:39] <Windy> it's what happens when a neophyte asks for help :P
[12:39] <Peacer> status* sorry :S
[12:39] <Windy> problem is my home directory doesn't exist basically
[12:39] <Windy> cos i went and changed it :(
[12:39] <AstralJava> (13:34:26) AstralJava: Peacer: My partition is Mounted on /dev/.static/dev
[12:39] <vik> How can I get gnome to play with a screen resolution enabled in xorg.conf, but doesn't come up in the screen resolution prefs?
[12:40] <frogzoo> Windy: ls -l ~
[12:40] <lindztr> hi. does anyone have a  libmysql.so.10 file and can send it to me?
[12:40] <frogzoo> Windy: ls -ld ~
[12:40] <Peacer> yes
[12:40] <Windy> err....
[12:40] <|thunder> login as root and delete the whole directory. not /home but the user dir inside /home. then it will think you are a new user again. and make the dir from scratch
[12:40] <Bader> I've reported a bug 3 months ago about a broken package and since nobody noticed it...
[12:40] <Bader> where can I find a developer ?
[12:40] <Bader> or someone who could put it critical
[12:40] <uman> cp -pr /home/admin /home/a
[12:40] <Peacer> but in the information window there should be something saying "status: something" in gparted
[12:40] <Windy> hmm ok
[12:40] <|thunder> Bader, there are dev forums
[12:40] <ubuntu> hi room
[12:41] <ubuntu> hi thunder
[12:41] <Bader> |thunder: what channel ?
[12:41] <PyroManiak> Anyone know if there is a way for linux to autodetect when I plug a multibay drive into my laptop?
[12:41] <Windy> what's the default root pw?
[12:41] <AstralJava> Peacer:  :) I'm trying to tell that this is what reads in that field of information dialog. :)
[12:41] <Alex> Windy: There is no default root password.
[12:41] <Peacer> lol
[12:41] <Alex> Windy: sudo -i
[12:41] <Peacer> wtf
[12:41] <|thunder> hi ubuntu
[12:41] <Windy> =/
[12:41] <Alex> PyroManiak: "it just does" :)
[12:41] <mats> sudo -s yourloginpass
[12:41] <Peacer> i had one saying "busy" and "active"
[12:41] <|thunder> Bader, not a chan. a web forum. search google
[12:41] <Alex> mats: that's -S, and a really bad idea ;)
[12:42] <AstralJava> Peacer: Well, then we got some different setups, I should think. :)
[12:42] <Peacer> don't know why two partitions are being used at the same time... meh... don't want to wonder about it
[12:42] <jujimufu> has anyone used their PC as an apache, php and mysql server using xaamp to view site managers like e107 and/or mambo cms?
[12:42] <Bader> |thunder: web forum ? I don't use them since launchpad exists...
[12:42] <mats> Alex: ;))
[12:42] <frogzoo> Windy: there is no root pw, use sudo
[12:42] <AstralJava> Peacer: Are you inside a LiveCD session now?
[12:42] <lindztr> Can someone send me libmysql.so.10 it would be really nice.
[12:42] <Alex> lindztr: Just resolve it using apt...
[12:42] <PyroManiak> Alex: Actually, it doesn't.... it requires me to restart the machien..
[12:43] <Peacer> yeh... or else it's the live version not really yes
[12:43] <Alex> PyroManiak: It shouldn't - they're just USB Mass Storage.
[12:43] <Peacer> and i finally got it to work \o/
[12:43] <Windy> still asking me for a PW :/
[12:43] <Bader> anyway, if someone has the correct rights could he just change the status of the bug 55291 and its importance ?
[12:43] <AstralJava> Peacer: Cool! :)
[12:43] <Alex> Windy: sudo -i, enter the user password
[12:43] <Peacer> i tried taking a chance and deleting ext3
[12:43] <lindztr> Alex. the apt-get is really fucked up on my other ubuntu computer.
[12:43] <PyroManiak> Alex: A multibay drive in a laptop? this isn't usb
[12:43] <ubuntu> lindztr: hi
[12:43] <Peacer> it was the largest partition and the only one i could delete
[12:43] <Peacer> :P
[12:43] <Windy> i typed sudo -i and when password came up it wouldn't let me type :/
[12:43] <Alex> PyroManiak: Oh, multibay, I misread, thought you said multicard. :)
[12:43] <lindztr> ubuntu: hi
[12:43] <Alex> PyroManiak: THen no, :)
[12:43] <ubuntu> lindztr:  download it from packages.ubuntu.com
[12:44] <AstralJava> Bader: You could try and ask for some care for it on #ubuntu-bugs, it needs to be triaged first.
[12:44] <Windy> nvm got it
[12:44] <Alex> Windy: It doesn't display, just type it in :)
[12:44] <Windy> hmm ok i'm in as root
[12:44] <PyroManiak> Alex: Bah, what a shame... its a pain to have to restart linux just to change multibay devices
[12:44] <lindztr> ubuntu, okay, but can you download just that file?
[12:44] <Troy> blarg.... this really is not working for me... i just need to rebuilt my MBR
[12:44] <Alex> PyroManiak: To be fair, you probably can, but.. hotplugging is often borked ;)
[12:44] <ubuntu> just enter the file name in search , it will give a list
[12:45] <ubuntu> u will have to reinstall the package
[12:45] <lindztr> okay, thanks mate.
[12:45] <Warbo> Would anyone mind testing xteddy? It doesn't work for me, on Xorg or Xorg-air
[12:45] <ubuntu> np anytime
[12:45] <PyroManiak> Alex: With how well linux is doing since I used it 5-6 years ago... I would have figured they nailed it by now =P
[12:45] <Troy> anyone help me reinstall grub from a live disc?
[12:45] <Windy> err..how do i delete stuff then?
[12:45] <ubuntu> Windy:  rm command
[12:45] <Windy> hmm ok
[12:45] <Alex> PyroManiak: You might want to look into hotplugging support on google a bit, not to tell you to rtfm or anything :)
[12:45] <Warbo> !grub
[12:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:46] <Saimazoon> Hello
[12:46] <Windy> gah
[12:46] <Windy> won't let me del user directory
[12:46] <Saimazoon> I notice a strange problem with the Firefox plug-in manager
[12:46] <Bader> thx AstralJava
[12:46] <ubuntu> Windy:  rm -fr foldername
[12:46] <Windy> k
[12:46] <ubuntu> everything will be gone
[12:46] <Alex> Windy: You.. need to learn how to use a system before you start playing in root.
[12:46] <Saimazoon> At first, when I install my distribution, the flash player doesn't come along with ubuntu, but the plug-in manager doesn't success in the installation of that plug-in
[12:46] <ubuntu> Windy:  warning u again
[12:47] <ubuntu> everything on thaty folder will be gone
[12:48] <monkeyhead> Hello
[12:48] <ubuntu> Saimazoon: try downloading it from synaptic
[12:48] <Warbo> hello
[12:48] <Windy> ubuntu: yeah i figure
[12:48] <sharperguy> ok why wont soundconverter let me convert to mp3?
[12:48] <Saimazoon> ok
[12:48] <Warbo> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[12:48] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[12:48] <ubuntu> sharperguy:  from?
[12:48] <Windy> Alex: i'm not interested in playing in root, i'm just interested in how to get it working again :/
[12:48] <sharperguy> anything
[12:48] <Windy> incidentally no luck
[12:48] <|thunder> sharperguy, you need codecs. try #automatix
[12:48] <Windy> so i'm still stuck at the login with no way of getting to the GUI
[12:48] <sharperguy> i installed all recommended packeges
[12:49] <sharperguy> i can play mp3's ok
[12:49] <ubuntu> Windy:  what r u trying to do?
[12:49] <Windy> get back into the GUI
[12:49] <Windy> or login
[12:49] <Windy> w/e
[12:49] <|thunder> sharperguy, you need lame
[12:49] <sharperguy> also, i've been told off for recommending automatix here
[12:49] <sharperguy> i have that too
[12:49] <ubuntu> type gdm
[12:49] <Warbo> sharperguy: I know it uses gstreamer0.8, but even with MPEG encoding plugins installed for it MP3 doesn't seem to work. I think it is just disabled or something
[12:49] <monkeyhead> I've been having problems with flash player with firefox on ubuntu here too
[12:49] <ubuntu> or startx
[12:49] <sharperguy> it worked fine in breezy
[12:49] <|thunder> ill recomend it all day if it works and is easy
[12:49] <PyroManiak> Anyone know of a dimmer application to turn down the brightness of my LCD? (more then the function keys can do)
[12:50] <Windy> ubuntu: i'm looking at the nice sexy yellow login screen atm
[12:50] <ubuntu> enter ur name /pass
[12:50] <Windy> the user i created is effectively dead
[12:50] <ubuntu> make a new 1
[12:50] <Windy> err...how?
[12:50] <sharperguy> !worksforme
[12:50] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[12:50] <ubuntu> useradd -d /home/username  username
[12:50] <ubuntu> then passwd username
[12:51] <ubuntu> ok
[12:51] <Warbo> adduser is better than useradd I think
[12:51] <|thunder> with out a root password or another admin user its impossible i think.
[12:51] <ubuntu> Warbo: yes try that
[12:51] <ubuntu> try any
[12:51] <Warbo> (maybe I have them the wrong way around?)
[12:51] <Warbo> I think one of them sets up groups and stuff automatically
[12:51] <DralaFi> Hello. Where's the kubuntu/ubuntu installer log file kept?
[12:51] <monkeyhead> Does flashplayer actually work with Ubuntu?
[12:51] <Troy> kk... how would i raw write an image to a floppy?
[12:51] <Rookie-> useradd <username> is the best, all things goes auto then
[12:51] <Warbo> monkeyhead: Yes, but I had to get a Debian package
[12:51] <|thunder> Windy, if you do ctrl-alt-F6 can you login? use ctrl-alt-F7 to get back
[12:51] <DralaFi>  /lib/log only has aptitude and dpkg log files...
[12:51] <slacker_nl> Windy: that should be pretty easy to fix
[12:52] <uman> dd if=source of=/dev/fd0
[12:52] <DralaFi>  /var/log i mean
[12:52] <monkeyhead> Ah right where did you get the debian package from?
[12:52] <slacker_nl> uhm.. Windy disregard that I responded on backlog()
[12:52] <ossie> i was trying do this last night but it didnt work can anyone see whats wrong ln -s ($find -name *.mp3) /mnt/Music/$file
[12:52] <Windy> lol
[12:52] <Warbo> monkeyhead: I shouldn't really say it, but apt-get.org
[12:52] <monkeyhead> thansk :)
[12:53] <Warbo> Since flash player is binary anyway, it wouldn't hurt to get a Debian package of it
[12:53] <ubuntu> ossie:  what r u trying to do?
[12:53] <Snakehit> anyone know a FTP Server program for Ubuntu?
[12:53] <Snakehit> I mean to build a FTP
[12:53] <Windy> |thunder if i do ctrl+alt+f6 it asks for a login
[12:53] <Warbo> !info ftpd
[12:53] <Snakehit> not to connect to a FTP
[12:53] <ubuntu> Snakehit: vsftpd
[12:53] <ubotu> ftpd: FTP server. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.17-21 (dapper), package size 41 kB, installed size 172 kB
[12:53] <slacker_nl> ossie: I thing youo want soemthing like: find -name \*.mp3 --exec ln -s {} /mnt/Music/
[12:53] <ossie> ubuntu, im trying to find all my mp3 and soft link them to one directory
[12:53] <sharperguy> do i have to make a symlink for lame to work with soundconverter? because all i did with audacity is browse to the other file
[12:53] <|thunder> ossie, is that in a script ?
[12:54] <ossie> yes |thunder
[12:54] <|thunder> Windy, ya, can you login ?
[12:54] <mrDaniel> when i am trying to open a console-session with STRG+ALT+F1, than the screen is just black. do anyone knows why the console-session not work?
[12:54] <ossie> ill try that slacker_nl
[12:54] <Windy> yes
[12:54] <ubuntu> $find aint an enviorment variable is it?
[12:54] <Troy> thank you very much uman
[12:54] <uman> troy, it's also handy for other stuff.. eg making iso from CD or backing up partition
[12:55] <uman> and such
[12:55] <Warbo> mrDaniel: I know Ubuntu runs GDM early in the bootup sequence, so you may have to wait a few minutes until the consoles turn on (boot messages are on ctrl-alt-f8)
[12:55] <|thunder> Windy, so, you can login as yourself at that prompt, but not into X then
[12:55] <Warbo> ossie: Do you mean $(find.......?
[12:55] <ubuntu> mrDaniel:  try all from f1 to f9
[12:55] <ubuntu> ;)
[12:55] <ossie> yes Warbo
[12:56] <Windy> |thunder: yesh.
[12:56] <ubuntu> ossie:  wont work
[12:56] <ubuntu> i think
[12:56] <ossie> for file in $(find /mnt -name *.mp3)
[12:56] <ossie> do
[12:56] <ossie> find -name \*.mp3 --exec ln -s {} /mnt/Music/
[12:56] <ossie> ln -s $file $file
[12:56] <sharperguy> ok so i did sudo ln "/usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0 /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so" but still no joy
[12:56] <ubuntu> as long find is already defined before
[12:56] <Troy> thanks all, have a goodnight
[12:56] <ossie> i did that :)
[12:56] <mjbunink> When running Ubuntu 6.06 I was curious to see how KDE felt these days (haven't run that in a long time), so tried apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. Error: Language-selector-qt could not be installed. Is this a common problem? Does anyone know how to solve this?
[12:56] <sharperguy> oops quoted the wrong bit, but u get the picture
[12:56] <ossie> ignore the find -name \*.mp3 --exec ln -s {} /mnt/Music/ i just added that
[12:56] <ubuntu> kool
[12:56] <chops-> i done the alt-ctrl-f1 to look at consoles i tried alt f7 to get back to the gui and it wont
[12:57] <|thunder> sharperguy, no quotes
[12:57] <harm_> I have a ubuntu server and it contains all my music files. Now how can i make it so i can listen to my songs without having to download them?
[12:57] <|thunder> sharperguy, er, ya
[12:57] <slacker_nl> ossie: now you are doing the find twice
[12:57] <uman> chops you need to use CTRL-ALT-key to get back to GUI
[12:57] <Warbo> harm_: Maybe set up an Icecast server
[12:57] <sharperguy> baisically i did "sudo ln /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0 /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so"
[12:57] <uman> you might have to try out the different F keys to see which one is your GUI
[12:57] <|thunder> ossie, why not just soft link the main directory ?
[12:57] <harm_> Warbo_ but doesnt that only play one song for a person at a time?
[12:58] <Warbo> harm_: No idea, I just heard it somewhere (excuse the pun)
[12:58] <chops-> CTRL-ALT keys to get back to it ?>
[12:58] <avis> what is icecast server ?
[12:58] <uman> it's normally the first one after your last text terminal
[12:58] <harm_> Warbo same :)
[12:58] <ossie> becasue they are on a numbert of different drives
[12:58] <uman> CTRL-ALT-F2 onwards
[12:58] <uman> CTRAL-ATL-F3 etc
[12:58] <chops-> f8
[12:58] <chops-> thx
[12:59] <slacker_nl> ossie: for i in `find . -name \*.mp3  -print`; do ; ln -s $i /path/to/dir/ ; done (think this will do what you want
[12:59] <avis> i need a new monitor :(  i want to replace my 21" CRT with 19" LCD.  i'll beg my father for a loan after he goes to work.
[12:59] <uman> avis.... it won't keep you as warm in winter though
[12:59] <Warbo> Can I have the CRT?
[12:59] <ubuntu> slacker_nl:  u into slackware?
[12:59] <ossie> lemme try that slacker_nl
[12:59] <ossie> cheers :)
[12:59] <Josbeat> pls help with webcam on laptop..
[01:00] <avis> uman, this sun (sony trinitron) microsystem monitor barely emits any heat.
[01:00] <DralaFi> ubuntu,  slackware rocks :)
[01:00] <slacker_nl> ubuntu: nope, solaris, FreeBSD and Ubuntu mostly
[01:00] <ubuntu> kool
[01:00] <ubuntu> slackware 11 is out
[01:00] <uman> trinitrons normally got quite warm... at least the ones I've used
[01:00] <ubuntu> have to give it a try
[01:00] <uman> good colour & contrast though
[01:00] <avis> let me touch mine
[01:00] <ubuntu> nice OS :)
[01:00] <Josbeat> pls help with webcam on laptop
[01:00] <avis> she is cool
[01:00] <Warbo> !webcam
[01:00] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:00] <avis> and its hot in texas !
[01:01] <mrDaniel> i have tryed all STRG+ALT+ (F1-F9) but all screens (axcept F7) all black
[01:01] <uman> if you get an LCD make sure you test the viewing angle ertically
[01:01] <drbashir> !codec
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <uman> vertically
[01:01] <DralaFi> ubuntu, !!! it is??
[01:01] <Josbeat> how do i add a line...
[01:01] <Josbeat> to sources.list
[01:01] <drbashir> !movie
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about movie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <mrDaniel> the point is: when i am shuting-down ubuntu, the shutdown-screen is also black
[01:01] <ubuntu> mrDaniel:  type this >>startx
[01:01] <ubuntu> DralaFi: yes sir
[01:01] <Warbo> Josbeat: System>Admin>Software Properties
[01:01] <mrDaniel> do anyone know a fic for this problem?
[01:02] <DralaFi> ubuntu, slackware.com still shows 10.2
[01:02] <Josbeat> yes warbo
[01:02] <drbashir> I like to see a movie in Totem, but it complains I dont have the correct plugins installed... :|
[01:02] <Windy> hmm
[01:02] <Windy> ok new question
[01:02] <Windy> how do i create a folder in command line?
[01:02] <mrDaniel> @ubuntu: what the command '>>startx' i doing?
[01:02] <ubuntu> DralaFi:  let me see if i can get the link
[01:02] <Warbo> !restricted
[01:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:02] <ubuntu> mrDaniel:  type startx or gdm
[01:02] <slacker_nl> Windy: mkdir a_new_dir
[01:02] <Warbo> Windy: mkdir foldername
[01:02] <Windy> thx
[01:02] <Windy> ok...that didn't work
[01:02] <PyroManiak> Alex: Do I need to restart to get the hotswap stuff working?
[01:02] <drbashir> thx Warbo
[01:03] <Josbeat> install VNC player for DVD
[01:03] <slacker_nl> Windy: ? errormsg?
[01:03] <ubuntu> vlc*
[01:03] <Josbeat> how do i add Debian.
[01:03] <rantak> //////
[01:03] <Warbo> Josbeat: Make a new partition, get a Debian CD
[01:03] <jujimufu> Warbo :)
[01:04] <Windy> Your home directory is listed as: '/home/aLinc' but it does not appear to exist. Do you want to log in with the /(root) as your home directory?
[01:04] <sharperguy> how comes gconf-editor always kills gnome-panel and leves me with a broken notification-area, meaning ihave to hit ctrl-alt-backspc to get it back?
[01:04] <Windy> that's the error message
[01:04] <Warbo> Josbeat: Seriously, don't add an officail Debian repo, 'cos EVERYTHING will confict with Ubuntus
[01:04] <Windy> say yes and it gives me
[01:04] <ubuntu> Windy:  do this
[01:04] <Windy> user's $home/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents etc etc
[01:04] <ubuntu> mkdir /home/aLinc
[01:04] <slacker_nl> Windy: as root: mkdir -p /home/aLinc
[01:05] <Windy> hmm
[01:05] <ossie> slacker_nl, dont work dude
[01:05] <e-type> hi all
[01:05] <Warbo> -p? Doesn't /home exist?
[01:05] <slacker_nl> ossie: why not?
[01:05] <Windy> i tried without -p already :P
[01:05] <Josbeat> thnks warbo
[01:05] <e-type> anyone know if there's work on gnomad2 to have libmtp support?
[01:05] <ubuntu> Windy:  oh ok sorry :p
[01:06] <e-type> gnomad2 debian/ubuntu package I mean
[01:06] <jensp> can someone please send me the output of "which lsb_release"? thanks
[01:06] <sharperguy> windy, "sudo chown user /home/user/.dmrc" "sudo chmod 644 /home/user/.dmrc/"
[01:06] <slacker_nl> jensp: /etc/lsb_release
[01:06] <Josbeat> any1 using webcam for chatting.
[01:06] <Josbeat> is skype good
[01:06] <jensp> thanks slacker_nl
[01:07] <No1Viking> Fglrxinfo is ok but the screensaver is slow, what is wrong?
[01:07] <slacker_nl> its not a executable so you will not find it with which
[01:07] <sharperguy> skype dosnt give you webcam in linux :(
[01:07] <Warbo> "/bin/lsb_release"
[01:07] <uman> might be easier to just add the user again
[01:07] <mrDaniel> when i am shuting down ubuntu the shutdown-screen is black. do anyone know a fix to resolve this problem?
[01:07] <sharperguy> however ekiga and wengophone do
[01:07] <e-type> Josbeat: ekiga should give you far more possibilities then Skype
[01:07] <ubuntu> well later guys
[01:07] <ubuntu> tc all
[01:07] <Josbeat> both of them with webcam n voice/?
[01:07] <ubuntu> peace :)
[01:07] <Alex> e-type: Plus, then you won't be using Skype.
[01:07] <Josbeat> peaceMan
[01:07] <Alex> Which is a GoodThing
[01:08] <e-type> Alex: of course :)
[01:08] <horrork> Thats cool i just figured out how to hook up to wireless conect!
[01:08] <uman> nice
[01:08] <Josbeat> wats e-type?
[01:08] <sharperguy> Josbeat, yes, they both give webcam and voice, and ekiga comes default with ubuntu
[01:08] <Alex> e-type: Haven't seen you in a while.. :)
[01:08] <Josbeat> yes i hve ekiga
[01:08] <e-type> Alex: alex as in ze haunted one?
[01:08] <jujimufu> !ekiga
[01:08] <ubotu> ekiga: Free Your Speech. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.1-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 3572 kB, installed size 12188 kB
[01:08] <Alex> e-type: Indeedy
[01:08] <Josbeat> ok..
[01:08] <jujimufu> !wengophone
[01:09] <ubotu> wengophone: SIP-based software telephone with video and chat features. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99+svn4511-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 3309 kB, installed size 7660 kB
[01:09] <e-type> Alex: moeha! helleuw buddy, how are you?
[01:09] <Alex> e-type: I'm alright, I've been working a lot lately.. :) How's SMGL? :)
[01:09] <Josbeat> are they clear im thinking of shifting all my pc to ubuntu
[01:09] <horrork> Catch ya later!
[01:09] <e-type> Alex: smgl still kicks all asses in distroland of course :)
[01:09] <Alex> e-type: I must agree ;)
[01:10] <e-type> Alex: but installed ubuntu for my brother...
[01:10] <e-type> Alex: and he wants to get into his creative zen vision m ...
[01:10] <e-type> Alex: which needs some compiling :)
[01:10] <Alex> e-type: They're USB Mass Storage, aren't they?
[01:10] <e-type> Alex: nope, using mtp protocol
[01:11] <Alex> e-type: :(
[01:11] <e-type> Alex: should be no problem to get to work with libmtp, but I'm wondering if anyone is allready doing stuff for a real debian package
[01:11] <No1Viking> What's SMGL?
[01:11] <Alex> No1Viking: Source Mage GNU/Linux
[01:11] <No1Viking> Meaning?
[01:11] <Alex> No1Viking: It's a distribution
[01:11] <e-type> No1Viking: www.sourcemage.org <--- source based distro, gives divine powers to admins :)
[01:11] <Warbo> Why can't I find anyone willing to test xteddy? I want to either fix it, or file a bug, but I don't know the cause of the problem
[01:11] <e-type> forgive me my chauvinism :)
[01:11] <Alex> e-type: My workmate uses his Creative on an ubuntu machine, I'll ask him on Monday :)
[01:12] <No1Viking> Is it better than ubuntu?
[01:12] <e-type> Alex: well, most are no problem, but the ones with video/picture stuff need that libmtp support
[01:12] <e-type> No1Viking: define "better" :)
[01:12] <e-type> No1Viking: ubuntu does all config for you, while smgl does hardly any config for the admin
[01:12] <e-type> No1Viking: which one is better is in the eye of the beholder
[01:13] <Alex> e-type: Ah
[01:13] <tuxtux> ciao
[01:13] <No1Viking> e-type, so it's not easier to run and install than Ubuntu?
[01:14] <Alex> No1Viking: Personally, I find it easier. That is because I know it inside out, though. :)
[01:14] <e-type> No1Viking: well, ubuntu makes choices for you... smgl is created to let you make the choices. far more customizable, so far more complicated
[01:14] <Pensacola> I installed the Kubuntu-desktop package on top of ubuntu, and I like it. How can I get rid of the Gnome interface?
[01:14] <e-type> No1Viking: but more power to the admin :)
[01:14] <No1Viking> Ok, get it
[01:14] <Alex> Pensacola: you could remove ubuntu-desktop, surely? (That might tart things up, mind.. )
[01:15] <Warbo> Pensacola: removing ubuntu-desktop in aptitude might do it. If not then try removing some key GNOME components (like gnome-session)
[01:15] <No1Viking> Well, I need to get more knowledge about linux before trying SMGL, it seems
[01:15] <uman> I use a source based distro as well, but you need to KNOW a bit before going there
[01:15] <Pensacola> thx, I'll try it
[01:15] <Pensacola> brb :)
[01:15] <uman> hence ubuntu for the first steps :)
[01:16] <oshani> Hi ppl, any help on installing jre on firefox in my ubuntu box?
[01:16] <Alex> uman: My friend's first distribution was Gentoo - she did okay with it. The documentation is excellent, thoiugh..
[01:16] <uman> yeah... gentoo's install instructions are awesome
[01:16] <Alex> oshani: http://ubuntuguide.org/ # it's on the first page, I think..
[01:16] <uman> still it takes some time and effort
[01:16] <No1Viking> Fglrxinfo is ok but the screensaver is slow, what is wrong?
[01:16] <Warbo> I tried Gentoo once, but my system wouldn't boot. I could only run it by chrooting from the Install CD
[01:17] <Alex> oshani: http://wiki.serios.net/wiki/Debian_Java_JRE/JDK_installation%2C_browser_plugin
[01:17] <e-type> No1Viking: I didn't know anything about linux when I started with smgl. it's a steep learning curve but we have a very friendly help channel. you will have to be prepared to read a lot though...
[01:17] <oshani> well, thanks.. I tried http://ubuntuguide.org/, but the site seems to be down now
[01:17] <avis> i cannot compile my own kernel for the life of me.  so no gentoo for me.  i happy with ubuntu anyway.
[01:18] <Alex> oshani: Ah - :)
[01:18] <maki> hello
[01:18] <Warbo> steep learning curve=easy
[01:18] <No1Viking> e-type, ok, thanks m8
[01:18] <maki> does ubuntuguide dont work?
[01:18] <Warbo> common misconception
[01:18] <Alex> maki: It appears to be down at the moment
[01:18] <maki> l
[01:18] <maki> oki
[01:18] <uman> different people like different ways
[01:18] <ripper> could anyone tell me why i dont have a shutdown or a restart option in my menus, i can logoff , hybernate or switch users though
[01:19] <maki> im newbie
[01:20] <ripper> if i do dpkg-reconfigure gdm am i going to lose my current gdm theme?
[01:20] <maki> you tried to make changes in setting ? session and startup.
[01:21] <maki> i suppose yes
[01:21] <pmj> a bunch of files in my /var/lib/dpkg/info had been corrupted. I ran fsck and now apt-get won't work. Can I rebuild these files somehow? Or make apt-get forget that these programs ever existed?
[01:22] <maki> mine problem with apt-get finished when i restarted my ubuntu
[01:22] <maki> there were something about blocked
[01:23] <mats> apt-get -f install
[01:23] <edgy> Hi, how can I change the default encoding of squirrelmail to utf-8?
[01:23] <maki> helo
[01:23] <pmj> mats: thanks, but that doesn't help at all. There's no conflict anywhere
[01:23] <fredl> Hi, I have Dapper and an HP inkjet connected. Printing from firefox works just fine, printing pictures does too. However, I can't print to it using 'lpr', all that happens then is that the printer actually does something but nothing gets on the paper.
[01:24] <fredl> I thought maybe the black ink is out, but it doesn't appear to be.
[01:24] <maki> pmj try restart ubuntu
[01:24] <fredl> any ideas?
[01:24] <pmj> info files were corrupted, and later fixed by fsck. When apt-get reads its database it detects that they're wrong/missing/whatever and refuses to work
[01:24] <maki> dont know im newby ;d
[01:24] <pmj> restarting does not work. Iv'e tried
[01:24] <mats> apt-get setup ?
[01:25] <mats> im a dumbass O_O
[01:25] <ripper> i love the fact that ubuntu makes burning avi files to dvd easy as eating pie.
[01:25] <fredl> I see in the README.Debian file that's in the hpijs package the note that says:
[01:26] <fredl> This patch tries to make sure that black is printed with just
[01:26] <fredl> the black pen, if the printer supports it.
[01:26] <fredl> I guess somehow hpijs assumes that my printer can do this but it cant?
[01:27] <MssngrTrck> hi
[01:27] <fredl> is there some way to disable this so called 'rss patch' ?
[01:29] <e-type> edgy: check config/config.php for default_charset and default_encoding
[01:29] <ripp3r> does anyone know why the shutdown button / restart button on the quit menu disappears?
[01:29] <ripp3r> *after upgrade to dapper*
[01:30] <_cerberus_> for some reason a script I placed in my ip-up.d folder isn't being executed when I connect to the internet. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?
[01:30] <sorush20> anyone here want help for ubuntu come to /join #sorush20ubuntu
[01:30] <drbashir> !mplayer
[01:30] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[01:30] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[01:31] <drbashir> !multiverse
[01:31] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:31] <ripp3r> here is a good one, why is it when i try to play some movie files in mplayer they are black & white, but color with others?
[01:31] <nox-Hand> How do I make my webcam work in Ubuntu?
[01:31] <Pensacola> if I install Firefox from the KDE desktop will it still have the gnome style menus?
[01:32] <ripp3r> Pensacola thats a good question
[01:32] <richiefrich> nox-Hand try these apps.. motion gnome-meeting
[01:32] <ripp3r> Pensacola are you by chance from florida?
[01:32] <Pensacola> nope :)
[01:32] <ripp3r> bummer
[01:32] <ripp3r> im trying to start a local linux users group
[01:32] <ripp3r> this redneck town im in doesnt have one
[01:33] <Pensacola> :)
[01:33] <Pensacola> I'm from belgium, sorry
[01:33] <richiefrich> ripp3r there are ones in flodida
[01:33] <richiefrich> florida*
[01:33] <ripp3r> richiefrich hmmmm any near defuniak springs?
[01:33] <Pensacola> jep, it still has the gnome style menus :s
[01:33] <Pensacola> thx
[01:33] <GenghisKhan> ripp3r: i think it doesn't matter. it's apt the program which does the installation
[01:33] <Pensacola> jeehaa jupiler :)
[01:33] <e-type> ;)
[01:33] <richiefrich> ripp3r google knows... ill get u the url
[01:33] <Pensacola> I don't like the gnome style, how can I change it?
[01:33] <ripp3r> k thanks richiefrich
[01:34] <ripp3r> i <3 gnome
[01:34] <richiefrich> eww
[01:34] <ESPOiG> whats a good ftp client besides gftp
[01:34] <e-type> Pensacola: desktop -> preferences -> theme (or whatever english translations are)
[01:34] <Thaur> richiefrich, hey
[01:34] <bimberi> !ftp
[01:34] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[01:34] <e-type> edgy: lftp or plain old ftp!
[01:34] <richiefrich> Thaur hey u quite ?
[01:34] <bimberi> ESPOiG: nautilus (the gnome file manager) is good
[01:34] <richiefrich> http://www.linux.org/groups/usa/florida.html  <-- ripp3r
[01:34] <fredl> does anybody here have problems printing just black on HP printers?
[01:34] <Pensacola> hmh let me see if I can change it in KDE :)
[01:34] <Thaur> richiefrich, I what?
[01:35] <ripp3r> e-type i prefer terminal based ftp
[01:35] <Pensacola> I've installed KDE on top of ubuntu
[01:35] <richiefrich> Thaur u pinged out. on my channel
[01:35] <e-type> ripp3r: lftp / ftp are not terminal? :p
[01:35] <richiefrich> Thaur i thought u quit
[01:35] <Thaur> richiefrich, Oh, yeah. I didn't really feel it was my place to be there..
[01:35] <GenghisKhan> Pensacola apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to get all the kubuntu adds for kde
[01:35] <ESPOiG> bimberi: thx, ill try that gftp aint that great
[01:35] <Pensacola> yeah, that's what I've done
[01:35] <bimberi> ESPOiG: np :)
[01:35] <richiefrich> Thaur ahh ok
[01:35] <Pensacola> but most programs still have the ubuntu style menus
[01:35] <Thaur> richiefrich, May sneak back in, later :P
[01:36] <richiefrich> lol ok
[01:36] <ripp3r> gftp can apparently not handle large dir's @ one time
[01:36] <richiefrich> ripp3r u see that url
[01:36] <Thaur> richiefrich, haha.
[01:36] <GenghisKhan> Pensacola you can't change the menus. you can only change the style and the fonts
[01:36] <Pensacola> ok, that's just what I want to change :)
[01:36] <fredl> does anybody here use an HP inkjet printer?
[01:36] <edgy> e-type: thx a lot.
[01:36] <Pensacola> I do
[01:37] <Pensacola> fredl, I do :)
[01:37] <richiefrich> fredl yes
[01:37] <e-type> edgy: sorry fot the wrong highlight about ftp clients ;)
[01:37] <fredl> Pensacola: what type?
[01:37] <richiefrich> fredl wgat one ?
[01:37] <Pensacola> HP PSC 1417
[01:37] <richiefrich> what*
[01:37] <ESPOiG> bimberi: it add your use login to the side panel, right :D... how do i remove it
[01:37] <NemesisUK> fredl, I use a deskjet
[01:37] <GenghisKhan> Pensacola you mean change edit -> preferences to its own preferences menu and that things?
[01:37] <fredl> richiefrich - I have an 952C, and apparently it doesn't print at all when it needs to just print black
[01:37] <Pensacola> yeah, I want a flashy KDE style menu in all programs
[01:38] <richiefrich> fredl what do u mean it wont print..  ?  u mean u need to print color too
[01:38] <fredl> NemesisUK - the 952C is also a deskjet. Can you print just text from the command line for example with the lpr command?
[01:38] <GenghisKhan> Pensacola i'm afraid you would have to change the source code of all the gnome apps
[01:38] <fredl> richiefrich, read /usr/share/doc/hpijs/README.Debian
[01:38] <bimberi> ESPOiG: Places -> Network Servers, then right-click -> Unmount Volume
[01:38] <ESPOiG> lol
[01:38] <ESPOiG> y didnt i think of that
[01:38] <fredl> richiefrich, it says: This patch tries to make sure that black is printed with just
[01:38] <fredl> the black pen, if the printer supports it.
[01:38] <fredl> correct?
[01:39] <Pensacola> I'll just download some flashy theme and apply it :)
[01:39] <bimberi> ESPOiG: well i guess it is a bit obscure ;)
[01:39] <monkeyhead> how can i log on to root?
[01:39] <bimberi> ESPOiG: there's probably other ways :)
[01:39] <richiefrich> fredl  idk i dont have that file
[01:39] <bimberi> ubotu tell monkeyhead about sudo
[01:39] <e-type> Pensacola: gtk apps use gtk theme engine, qt apps use qt theme engine, so you need themes for both
[01:39] <ESPOiG> bimberi: lol yeh i guess, but im just so stupid...
[01:39] <monkeyhead> ty
[01:39] <Pensacola> ok, brb
[01:39] <fredl> richiefrich, hmm.... that's odd.
[01:39] <ripp3r> richiefrich yes, thanks :D
[01:39] <Pensacola> I'll boot into gnome
[01:39] <GenghisKhan> e-type: there is a gtk theme that applyies your qt theme to gtk apps
[01:40] <e-type> ic
[01:40] <richiefrich> fredl not really in on a different disrto..
[01:40] <fredl> richiefrich, I wonder if the hpijs package is still there for me coz I needed it in Breezy and upgraded to Dapper.
[01:40] <bimberi> ESPOiG: really?  not evident so far :)
[01:40] <MX4000> ok i put the cd in my cdrom drive and it boots to the first screen then loads all the drivers and then everything stops and nothing else loads! Is there something wrong with it?
[01:40] <fredl> richiefrich, I'm not using Debian, I'm using Dapper.
[01:40] <ESPOiG> bimberi: hey
[01:40] <richiefrich> fredl  im on gentoo but still it should print
[01:40] <GenghisKhan> Pensacola: go to kde system settings -> appearence -> gtk styles and fonts -> use my kde style & use my kde fonts
[01:41] <richiefrich> fredl mine prints just black
[01:41] <richiefrich> fredl  i took the color cartridge out
[01:41] <richiefrich> mines empty
[01:41] <fredl> ok....
[01:41] <fredl> so you don't use ubuntu then?
[01:41] <richiefrich> fredl no
[01:42] <goonies> does anyone know of a good wireless adapter that has support for linux
[01:42] <fredl> ok, is there anybody who uses Ubuntu here who's also using an HP deskjet printer?
[01:42] <fredl> goonies - Cisco
[01:42] <goonies> u mean linksys?
[01:42] <richiefrich> goonies linksys
[01:42] <fredl> no, Cisco Aironet.
[01:42] <GenghisKhan> fredl: i use a HP laserjet. wonder if that could help
[01:42] <e-type> fredl: that's a cups problem, unrelated to ubuntu iyam
[01:42] <goonies> richiefrich, im having nightmares with my linksys
[01:43] <PlHL> There's a lot of http proxies to choose from in Synaptic, but which ones do you guys recommend?
[01:43] <fredl> Genghiskhan, probably not as the HP driver I'm using is specific to deskjet I think.
[01:43] <goonies> it works when it wants to work
[01:43] <goonies> fredl, is belkin any good?
[01:43] <GenghisKhan> fredl, i also think so
[01:43] <Pensacola> didn't work :s
[01:43] <goonies> theres one on sale ofr 40
[01:43] <richiefrich> goonies then use openwrt
[01:43] <fredl> e-type: no, I think it's an hpijs problem.
[01:43] <ashfm> is it normal that ubuntu dapper will not autodetect the need for the adt_therm lkm? (past versions of ubuntu iirc did detect this), it's a 12" g4 powerbook 1.5ghz. should i post a bug about this or is it a known problem?
[01:44] <richiefrich> fredl what ver driver u have
[01:44] <bimberi> ESPOiG: argh, i hope i'm being clear here.  I'm trying to say that you're being too hard on yourself!
[01:44] <fredl> e-type: but isn't it an Ubuntu problem as well when HP deskjets don't work properly you think?
[01:44] <e-type> fredl: deskjets don't use hpijs
[01:44] <goonies> bestbuy doesnt have many options when it comes to wireless adapters
[01:44] <richiefrich> fredl  and do u use hplip ?
[01:44] <fredl> e-type, they don't?!?!?!?!
[01:44] <e-type> fredl: /me checks first on cups site
[01:45] <ESPOiG> bimberi: lol... dw im just messing with yah :D
[01:45] <e-type> fredl: yours does, mine doesn't
[01:45] <fredl> richiefrich, I have hplip installed. dpkg says I have 2.1.7 of the hpijs package installed.
[01:45] <bimberi> ESPOiG: phew! ;p
[01:45] <ESPOiG> bimberi: it wont let me delete the connection?
[01:45] <fredl> e-type, hmm. ok.
[01:45] <GenghisKhan> ashfm, its the same for my ibook. i need to put it in /etc/modules. i think it's a minor bug
[01:46] <Assassin5> I'm having trouble getting my ATI card to work. Is it safe to run the ATI official installer on kubuntu?
[01:46] <fredl> where do I find what gs command cups uses?
[01:46] <bimberi> ESPOiG: hm, Unmount Volume has usually worked for me.  Any message?
[01:46] <ashfm> GenghisKhan: it's not necessarily a minor bug for your average user that fries his laptop in ignorance :P
[01:47] <GenghisKhan> ashfm, i think the thermal chip has hardcoded limits so frying the laptop by not inserting the module isn't possible
[01:47] <ESPOiG> bimberi: woops ffs... i am lookin stupid 2night :P
[01:47] <e-type> laterz all
[01:47] <ESPOiG> bimberi: cant believe i said that
[01:48] <bimberi> ESPOiG: lol, k
[01:48] <GenghisKhan> ashfm, the therm module just lets you tweak the values
[01:48] <ashfm> GenghisKhan: afaik the openfirmware has some sort of failsafe in it provided there is no software support available at the time. when there is no software support though the fan will run at full speed, but without the module the fan doesn't run at full speed
[01:49] <ashfm> GenghisKhan: ah ok, so fan control is still in place without this module? (in the kernel not the firmware i mean)
[01:49] <stray_77> any opinions on Codeweavers.CrossOver.Office.Professional.v5.0.1 ?
[01:50] <GenghisKhan> ashfm, i don't know if the hardware w/o software make the gradual fan thingie or just prevents you from frying the laptop
[01:50] <GenghisKhan> of course, the therm module should be loaded during normal operation
[01:50] <mson> hi all - can anyone help me set my wireless card up on my ubuntu desktop so that my windows laptop can access the internet through it?
[01:50] <GenghisKhan> mson, which wireless card is it?
[01:50] <ESPOiG> bimberi: im serious i have askd 2 ridiculous q's 2night i cant belive i askd them
[01:51] <richiefrich> goonies have u thought of openwrt?
[01:51] <mson> GenghisKhan: it's a gigabyte gn-wpkg
[01:51] <richiefrich> goonies i suggest DD-wrt
[01:52] <GenghisKhan> mson, don't know that card. usb? pci? do you know what module it uses?
[01:52] <richiefrich> goonies  http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/ddwrt.php
[01:53] <mson> GenghisKhan: it uses the rt2500 driver
[01:53] <mson> GenghisKhan: it's built into the motherboard
[01:53] <GenghisKhan> mson, so it's pci. fine, rt2500/2570 is a great driver
[01:53] <mson> cool...
[01:54] <goonies> richiefrich, is that for a router?
[01:54] <GenghisKhan> mson, can you see the ra0 interface with ifconfig -a
[01:54] <selinuxium> Hi all, I have two ethernet cards in my machine. I want to create a private network for VMware and use the other card for the gateway. How do I set it up?
[01:54] <richiefrich> goonies yes
[01:54] <mson> GenghisKhan: sure can
[01:54] <richiefrich> goonies what one u have
[01:54] <goonies> i need wireless adapter =\
[01:54] <goonies> i have a linksys router
[01:54] <richiefrich> goonies  what router?
[01:54] <goonies> wrt54gs
[01:54] <richiefrich> then flash it
[01:54] <GenghisKhan> mson, and you are setting an ad-hoc network? or you have an ap?
[01:54] <pulani> hey. Is there any way to adjust the mouse senstivity in dapper so that I Dont need acceleration to be turned on to make it movable and not say, as slow as a model T ?
[01:54] <richiefrich> it works better
[01:55] <richiefrich> goonies i dont know your issue then
[01:55] <richiefrich> goonies what is not working
[01:55] <goonies> im going to a buy a wireless adapter to replace my linksys wirelesss adapter
[01:55] <deep> How can i check my kde version=
[01:55] <voraistos> hey guys, i have ubuntu/gnome and i want to use a KDE/QT app (Qcad). It looks awfull, how can set it up ?(without installing KDE ;) )
[01:55] <deep> ?
[01:55] <mson> GenghisKhan: okay, now I'm lost.  I don't have an access point (ap?), so what's an ad-hoc network?
[01:55] <nox-Hand> richiefrich, Sorry, was miles away. Cheers, will try that :)
[01:55] <mson> GenghisKhan: is that what I want to do?
[01:55] <goonies> i need to make sure the one i buy is supported by nix
[01:55] <pulani> anyone? :x
[01:55] <richiefrich> nox-Hand i hope they help.. theres other.. but i forget
[01:55] <viorel> org
[01:55] <GenghisKhan> mson, ad-hoc is just a network with no access point (ap), so that's what you need
[01:55] <bobbydavro> !video
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <goonies> thats why i was asking if anyone knows any good ones
[01:56] <GenghisKhan> mson, first make sure ra0 is up
[01:56] <richiefrich> deep cant u do it in kde
[01:56] <bobbydavro> !radeon
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radeon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <mson> GenghisKhan: my desktop is connected via ethernet to a router, and I want to get access to that via the lappy so that sounds right
[01:56] <mson> GenghisKhan: it's up
[01:56] <richiefrich> goonies well err i thought u meant the router
[01:56] <goonies> and what improvements have you noticed using dd-wrt, looks interesting
[01:56] <richiefrich> goonies i didnt know u meant the NIC card
[01:56] <deep> richiefrich: Hum.. im in kde now. But, where can i see that?
[01:57] <GenghisKhan> mson, wait. you have one  wireless card on the laptop and another on the desktop, right?
[01:57] <deep> nevermind
[01:57] <mson> GenghisKhan: that's right
[01:57] <richiefrich> goonies there alot  more option the normal and theres also more security
[01:57] <nondito> !fonts
[01:58] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[01:58] <GenghisKhan> mson, and the desktop is running windoze and connects to inet through a router and you want to share your inet connection with the laptop
[01:58] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[01:58] <richiefrich> goonies works well i mean really well ... and u can ssh in and edit it u dont have to use the browser
[01:58] <mson> GenghisKhan: no, the desktop runs ubuntu, the laptop runs windows,
[01:58] <marcus__> anybody happen to know the command to start basilisk?
[01:58] <richiefrich> goonies it's better  so incase u flash it and the browser crashes u wont brick it
[01:58] <GenghisKhan> mson, ok
[01:59] <goonies> yeah looks pretty cool, wonder if it does a better job at handling dhcp than the original linksys firmware
[01:59] <geefour> does anyone know how to sort out MySQL? I need it to allow me access so that I can compile and install MythTV!!
[01:59] <GenghisKhan> mson, first you decide an essid, which is the name of the network
[01:59] <richiefrich> goonies i think it works very well.. all around
[01:59] <GenghisKhan> mson, then you do iwconfig ra0 mode Ad-Hoc
[01:59] <richiefrich> goonies let me get u the wiki install page
[01:59] <bimberi> ESPOiG: hehe, time to get some sleep then?
[02:00] <jrib> goonies: mythtv is in the multiverse repository, so no need to compile
[02:00] <GenghisKhan> iwconfig ra0 essid "your essid"
[02:00] <jrib> geefour: mythtv is in the multiverse repository, so no need to compile
[02:00] <mson> GenghisKhan: ok, done
[02:00] <GenghisKhan> and then you assign an ip to the card with ifconfig
[02:00] <goonies> richiefrich, ok cool
[02:00] <geefour> well, it still requires me to set it up to use MySQL
[02:00] <mson> GenghisKhan: ra0       RT2500 Wireless  ESSID:"hello"
[02:00] <mson>           Mode:Ad-Hoc  Frequency=2.412 GHz  Cell: 02:B2:EA:DE:13:81
[02:00] <geefour> even as root, I can't set it up!
[02:00] <GenghisKhan> mson, fine
[02:01] <richiefrich> http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Installation  <-- goonies look to see that your ver is suported
[02:01] <fredl> how do I find/change the CUPS admin username/password on Ubuntu?
[02:01] <jrib> geefour: ok, which package did you install for mysql?
[02:01] <GenghisKhan> mson, now you go to the windows laptop and make it connect to the network hello, and you pick a ip in the same network by hand
[02:01] <richiefrich> goonies  WRT54GS v1.0, v1.1, v2.0, v2.1, v3.0, v4.0, v5.0 (2mb flash) (product search) <--- looks good
[02:01] <jrib> fredl: the bottom of /usr/share/doc/cupsys/README.Debian.gz explains
[02:01] <waspius> anyone know a program to mount iso images without needing to burn them on a cd?
[02:01] <geefour> well it came with Ubuntu
[02:01] <fredl> tnx jrib
[02:02] <GenghisKhan> waspius, mount
[02:02] <geefour> but I have been trying to install version 5
[02:02] <goonies> richiefrich, yup
[02:02] <mus0> anyone seen a deb for gtk-im-extra ?
[02:02] <richiefrich> goonies make sure u read the installation 1st
[02:02] <mus0> that will work with ubuntu...
[02:02] <ripp3r> heh im having problems with python still
[02:02] <nondito> what is the most popular desktop applet to see network activity?
[02:02] <richiefrich> Note: Use the mini version when upgrading from original Linksys firmware!   <--- goonies
[02:03] <geefour> mus0: Ubuntu is based on Debian, so all should work (I think)
[02:03] <mus0> geefour, yes, but there is no official deb file, apparently.
[02:04] <mson> GenghisKhan: hmm, can't seem to find it
[02:04] <ripp3r> i'd love to get my hands on a linksys that can use the nix firmware
[02:04] <geefour> hmm
[02:05] <GenghisKhan> mson, paste iwconfig ra0 and ifconfig ra0 output on pastebin
[02:05] <sh4dox> good afternoon
[02:06] <fredl> alright, I can now see my printer with hp-tool
[02:07] <barbablues> Something bad happened to me. During an upgrade which included a new kernel the thermal protection kicked in and started a shutdown. Now I have a corrupted initrd and can't boot ubuntu anymore. Any idea on how to fix this?
[02:07] <mson> GenghisKhan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21201
[02:07] <mson> GenghisKhan: wait, i've got something
[02:07] <bluesign> can anyone suggest a good web server monitoring tool? (without ICMP ping)
[02:08] <bbrazil> bluesign: httpping?
[02:08] <Thaur> barbablues, Ah, you should remember to put your computer in the fridge before doing upgrades, next time ;)
[02:08] <bluesign> bbrazil: i need something that can record results etc
[02:08] <bbrazil> bluesign: tie that into mrtg, or smokeping
[02:09] <bluesign> bbrazil: thanks a lot, i will check them
[02:09] <homerh_linux> hiya  ppl ,my computer keeps freezing ,at the moment im putting it down to software is there any way i can find out what unstable programs ive installed
[02:09] <sethk> barbablues, force a reinstallation of the kernel
[02:10] <barbablues> sethk, how can I do this if I can't boot?
[02:11] <mson> GenghisKhan: I can see it now, but I can't change the ip address on the laptop's wireless card.  It's actually my friend's and he's using some netgear software on it.  Could that be partof the problem?
[02:12] <GenghisKhan> mson, then change the ip on the desktop. both have to be on the same network. that's all
[02:13] <sethk> barbablues, boot a rescue cd and do a chroot
[02:13] <mson> GenghisKhan: sorry for being so windows illiterate, but how do I do that?  I suspect his netgear software is getting in the way...
[02:13] <drbashir> How do I start Totem with xine support?
[02:14] <GenghisKhan> mson, i really don't use windows. but if you go to the network interfaces thingie on the control panel you can change the ip. the netgear software is just for the wireless extensions
[02:14] <drbashir> I have totem-xine and -gstreamer installed
[02:14] <gawain3> New to Ubuntu...New to Linux, actually. Can't play DVDs. Not enough permissions, or nothing in drive. Since there is something in drive, how do I get permissions?
[02:14] <jrib> drbashir: I believe those two packages conflict with one another.  Are you sure one of them didn't get removed when you installed the last one?
[02:14] <mson> GenghisKhan: i'll give it a shot...
[02:15] <drbashir> jrib, not that I know... Never got any error messages
[02:16] <barbablues> sethk, thanks, I'll try that, before my brain too stops because of thermal protection...
[02:16] <drbashir> hmm, I guess xine did not install after all :P sorry
[02:16] <drbashir> so, I have to remove the gstreamer verion first?
[02:16] <Milo> Good Morning to all
[02:17] <jrib> drbashir: just install totem-xine, it will take care of removing totem-gstreamer
[02:17] <Milo> Is there someone availabe to assist me - I have a problem booting
[02:18] <drbashir> jrib... ok
[02:18] <anemiat1> Is there a way to connect a ubuntu local machine printer to another ubuntu machine?
[02:18] <pulani> read motherfuckers! http://www.mycee.co.za/forums/viewthread.php?tid=65&page=1#pid260
[02:18] <pulani> sorry!
[02:18] <pulani> wrong channel :(
[02:18] <jrib> drbashir: post the output of 'sudo apt-get install totem-xine' on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if it doesn't seem to be working
[02:18] <mistraal> anyone have problems copying -TO- a windows share?
[02:19] <drbashir> jrib, ok, its installing atm
[02:19] <Milo> I added an additonal hard drive and now ubuntu will not boot - anyone know what to do?
[02:19] <MenZa> Milo: did you set your jumpers correctly?
[02:20] <Milo> I have 2 sata drives .. didnt see any jumpers on them
[02:20] <MenZa> Hm, I know _nothing_ of SATA drives.
[02:20] <MenZa> Sorry :\
[02:20] <[Wiebel] > humzzz
[02:20] <Milo> I still get the grub menu and then ubuntu tries to boot but doesnt
[02:20] <drbashir> jrib, thx for your help, if its not working, ill be back.
[02:20] <[Wiebel] > after upgrading all my windows fonts look fucked up
[02:20] <jrib> drbashir: np
[02:20] <[Wiebel] > fonts in firefox and thunderbird are looking pretty strange
[02:21] <sethk> MenZa, sata drives have no jumpers
[02:21] <[Wiebel] > is this a known issue by ay chance ?
[02:21] <mistraal> [Wiebel] : xubuntu?
[02:21] <[Wiebel] > mistraal: just ubuntu
[02:21] <[Wiebel] > mistraal: i installed it from cd
[02:21] <[Wiebel] > installed msttocre fonts
[02:21] <[Wiebel] > tested
[02:21] <[Wiebel] > looked fine
[02:21] <mistraal> I had the same problem this morning on xubuntu
[02:21] <[Wiebel] > apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:21] <mistraal> added a line to a conf and rebooted and it was fine
[02:21] <[Wiebel] > and it was all fucked up
[02:22] <[Wiebel] > mistraal: what line to what conf? :P
[02:22] <mistraal> hold on ..
[02:22] <Milo> eventually it bombs out with Alert! /dev/sda2 does not exist. Dropping to shell
[02:22] <[Wiebel] > mistraal: sure
[02:22] <Nameeater> my sata drive has jumpers heh
[02:22] <john06784> do you guys know a good C++ gui for ubuntu (for the novice)
[02:22] <mson> GenghisKhan: okay, i've changed the ip, but how do i get NAT and masquerading and stuff via the linux machine?  I can now ping the linux machine, but can't access web pages outside
[02:23] <Nameeater> oh wrong kind of jumpers, oops :)
[02:23] <GenghisKhan> mson, the public ip is on your desktop or on the router?
[02:23] <anemiat1> Is there a way to connect a ubuntu local machine printer to another ubuntu machine?
[02:23] <meisam> how can i install postgre sql guys
[02:23] <meisam> ?
[02:23] <mistraal> add Xft.dpi: 96 to /home/<username>/.config/xfce4/xfb.xrdb ... you may need to look for a Xresources file instead
[02:23] <meisam> please help me
[02:23] <rsk> what is the gtk2+ -dev package called?
[02:23] <john06784> yes use CUPS
[02:24] <john06784> its called gtkmm
[02:24] <mson> GenghisKhan: but public ip, i assume you mean the one from the isp, so yeah, that would be on the little router
[02:24] <[Wiebel] > mistraal: I don't use xfce4
[02:24] <[Wiebel] > it's gnome
[02:24] <rsk> in ubuntu dapper
[02:24] <[Wiebel] > hmmm
[02:24] <jrib> rsk: libgtk2.0-dev
[02:24] <rsk> great cheers
[02:24] <waspius> can someone guide me through the mount iso process as it does not work mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /path/to/mount/point
[02:25] <john06784> HELLO, does anyone know a good c++ development GUI FOR UBUNTU
[02:25] <GenghisKhan> then try enabling ip forwarding on the linux box. echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[02:25] <mistraal> [Wiebel] : look for /etc/X11/Xresources
[02:25] <Nameeater> john: do you mean a GUI for your C++ programs that you are writing?
[02:25] <kindor> hello
[02:25] <john06784> yea
[02:25] <Milo> anyone know what I can do for this error on boot - Alert! /dev/sda2 does not exist. Dropping to shell
[02:25] <john06784> i want to start learning c++
[02:25] <kindor> anyone know an simple email client in which the settings can be locked so a user cannot change them?
[02:26] <[Wiebel] > mistraal: it's an empty dir :)
[02:26] <Nameeater> libgtkmm might be interesting
[02:26] <Nameeater> or wxwidgets
[02:26] <mson> GenghisKhan: mson@yavin:~$ sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[02:26] <mson> bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied
[02:26] <rsk> jrib: ok take a look http://pastebin.ca/140362
[02:26] <mistraal> [Wiebel] : or add Xft.dpi: 96 to /home/<username>/.Xresources
[02:26] <john06784> thanks
[02:26] <mson> GenghisKhan: hmm... strange ...
[02:26] <mson> GenghisKhan:
[02:26] <meisam> anybody has installed postgre sql here?
[02:26] <GenghisKhan> mson, do sudo su and then the echo
[02:26] <mistraal> look at id 174821 on ubuntuforums.org
[02:26] <mson> GenghisKhan: am I missing some package or something
[02:27] <[Wiebel] > mistraal: let's check :)
[02:27] <GenghisKhan> sudo doesn't handle well redirects
[02:27] <mson> GenghisKhan: ah... that did work
[02:27] <snoops> john06784 do you know any other programming languages ( just interested if you've got the fundamentals on oo, naming conventions, variables, scope, classes, structs etc all covered )?
[02:27] <GenghisKhan> now try to ping google's ip
[02:28] <john06784> no sorry snoops
[02:28] <IndyBC> I am running Ubuntu 6.06. I want to reinstall wxWidgets and wxPython through apt-get. Can anybody help me?
[02:28] <jrib> rsk: can you pastebin your sources.list as well?
[02:28] <Aar0n> Hi there
[02:28] <mson> GenghisKhan: i did, didn't work " request timed out" on the laptop
[02:28] <john06784> just a bit of gambas :)
[02:28] <rsk> jrib: sure sec
[02:29] <meisam> hello guys, i need to install postgre sql...would u help me
[02:29] <meisam> ?
[02:29] <tortoise_> john06784: Start with python or C
[02:29] <jessica_> hi
[02:29] <IndyBC> meisam: Do it through apt-get or synaptic.
[02:29] <[Wiebel] > mistraal: no go :(
[02:29] <jessica_> I need help getting mp3 support going & nvidia drivers
[02:29] <GenghisKhan> mson, well. i have to go to have lunch. maybe the router doesn't accept the forwarded packets and you need nat our the linux box isn't forwarding. use ethereal on the linux box to trace the packets
[02:29] <john06784> ok
[02:29] <john06784> C
[02:30] <mistraal> [Wiebel] : sorry that didn't help. The above worked fine for me.
[02:30] <jrib> !mp3 > jessica_
[02:30] <john06784> do you know any C dev envs ? ? ?
[02:30] <jrib> !nvidia > jessica_
[02:30] <Aar0n> When I boot of my ubuntu cd (md5 checked and burnt at slow speed) i press start/ install ubuntu. it "says loading drivers ok" then it says "loading root file system" and just hangs there. I don't understand. I have tried using noapic and nolapic but the same thing happens! Please any ideas?
[02:30] <mson> GenghisKhan: okay, thanks heaps for your help.  I'll look into ethereal
[02:30] <jrib> john06784: try anjuta
 is that sudo apt-get postgresql?
[02:30] <john06784> thanks thats what i wanted to know ^^
[02:30] <rsk> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/140367
[02:30] <john06784> i forgot its name
[02:31] <mistraal> has anyone tried to copy files -TO- a windows share? Im having timeout prolems.
[02:31] <john06784> yes
[02:31] <Aar0n> anyone?
[02:31] <nox-Hand> Hey
[02:31] <Aar0n> Hi
[02:31] <nox-Hand> I need some help with getting my USB webcam to work under Linux
[02:31] <john06784> lol
[02:31] <john06784> :)
[02:31] <richiefrich> nox-Hand u try them apps
[02:31] <john06784> i got mine to work
[02:31] <nox-Hand> richiefrich, Indeed
[02:32] <nox-Hand> It does not register
[02:32] <nox-Hand> !webcam
[02:32] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:32] <richiefrich> nothing ?
[02:32] <nox-Hand> richiefrich, nope
[02:32] <john06784> !samba
[02:32] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:32] <richiefrich> nox-Hand check your kernel
[02:32] <richiefrich> might need fixin
[02:32] <ripp3r> ok guys, this rocks! i got cams to work on my ubuntu!
[02:32] <john06784> =)
[02:32] <ripp3r> now if only i could get voice to work for gyachE
[02:33] <ripp3r> its a python related issue so ill take it to #python
[02:33] <john06784> amsn is good for webcam via msn in linux
[02:33] <nox-Hand> richiefrich, Yoi....kernel patching in Ubuntu Oo Never done it...not since Gentoo xD
[02:33] <jrib> rsk: hrmm ok 'apt-cache policy libcairo2-dev'
[02:33] <ripp3r> it dont like my cam john06784
[02:33] <richiefrich> nox-Hand u can make your own kernel
[02:33] <nox-Hand> richiefrich, where do I do that in Ubuntu
[02:33] <rsk> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/140370
[02:34] <nox-Hand> /usr/src/linux?
[02:34] <nox-Hand> !kernel
[02:34] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:34] <richiefrich> ^^
[02:34] <richiefrich> nox-Hand u got it man
[02:34] <jrib> rsk: ok, tha same for libpango1.0-dev and libgtk2.0-dev
[02:35] <richiefrich> nox-Hand or get a kerenl from --> kernel.org
[02:35] <rsk> on it
[02:35] <richiefrich> nox-Hand i suggest the vanilla one
[02:35] <nox-Hand> richiefrich, w00t, might try it, yet sounds risky downloading a new one o.o
[02:35] <richiefrich> no
[02:35] <richiefrich> why would ikt
[02:35] <richiefrich> it*
[02:35] <richiefrich> i dont see a difference.. at least u can say u did a kerenl
[02:36] <nox-Hand> richiefrich, dont you have to make sure you compile all the right options for it to still run ubuntu with all the stuff you need?
[02:36] <rsk> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/140376
[02:36] <richiefrich> and u dont need all that other stuff in it that ubuntu puts in.., that u dont even have
[02:37] <richiefrich> nox-Hand a kerenl is a kernel.. all u need to know is your hardware
[02:37] <richiefrich> nox-Hand lshw is very good
[02:37] <richiefrich> nox-Hand and u can build a kernel from lspci
[02:37] <nox-Hand> richiefrich, true...lshw? I usually did lspci, but I'll try. I know my hardware quite well, though, so might work
[02:37] <nox-Hand> If not, I'll always have the old kernel \o/
[02:38] <jrib> rsk: hmm not sure what is going on.  What does 'sudo apt-get install libcairo2-dev' say?
[02:38] <rsk> The following packages have unmet dependencies: libcairo2-dev: Depends: libcairo2 (= 1.0.4-0ubuntu1) but 1.2.2-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[02:38] <richiefrich> nox-Hand try it it wont break nothing.. if it doesnt boot.. then use your old kernel
[02:38] <rsk> =(
[02:38] <nox-Hand> richiefrich, exactly
[02:38] <richiefrich> nox-Hand great learning experience.. and keep at it until u get it right
[02:38] <Skaag> is there a tool for ubuntu that installs IE6 properly?
[02:38] <jrib> rsk: ah ok, that's the problem.  'apt-cache policy libcairo2' please
[02:39] <Skaag> and I don't mean winetools or sidenet
[02:39] <richiefrich> nox-Hand unless u remove your old kernel from grub.. imo would be dumb
[02:39] <nox-Hand> richiefrich, I've made about four kernels for Gentoo, just a half year ago ;)
[02:39] <nox-Hand> richiefrich, duh :P
[02:39] <richiefrich> nox-Hand then no worries
[02:39] <rsk> http://pastebin.ca/140382
[02:39] <nox-Hand> Skaag, there is a script that will install it correctly and give you a desktop icon
[02:39] <Skaag> nox-Hand: name?
[02:39] <Milo> I installed an additional sata h/d and now get the following error on boot after the ubuntu start bombs out (1min) - Alert! /dev/sda2 does not exist. Dropping to shell- anyone can help?
[02:39] <nox-Hand> Does use wine, though. IE6 CANNOT run natively, Skaag. Sec, will get link
[02:40] <Skaag> nox-Hand: i've spent the last two days trying to get it up and running...
[02:40] <richiefrich> Skaag i have  a url
[02:40] <Skaag> nox-Hand: of course it has to use wine... ;-)
[02:40] <marcus__> anybody happen to know the command to start basilisk?
[02:40] <nox-Hand> Skaag, good, not all know that
[02:40] <richiefrich> Skaag  http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/index-en.html
[02:40] <jrib> rsk: ok any idea where libcairo2 version 1.2.2-0ubuntu2 came form?  The version in dapper repos is 1.0.4-0ubuntu1
[02:40] <richiefrich> Skaag all u need man ^^
[02:41] <Skaag> I heard about ies4linux but couldn't find the package
[02:41] <nox-Hand> richiefrich, beat me to it
[02:41] <Skaag> thanks mate
[02:41] <nox-Hand> I am downloading xD
[02:41] <richiefrich> np
[02:41] <rsk> maybe it was automatix
[02:41] <rsk> gonna take a second look
[02:41] <richiefrich> nox-Hand what kernel
[02:41] <nox-Hand> richiefrich, none yet, bittorrent. I am looking over kernel.org now
[02:41] <richiefrich> nox-Hand dont forget u will need to install your STi or nvivdia drivers again
[02:42] <nox-Hand> True
[02:42] <Nameeater> marcus__: dpkg -L basilisk2 | grep bin
[02:42] <richiefrich> nox-Hand thats not hard
[02:42] <nox-Hand> Nope
[02:42] <richiefrich> and if u have alsa-driver also
[02:42] <richiefrich> that to .. if u dont use the kernel alsa
[02:42] <richiefrich> like m e
[02:42] <jesperlarsson> hello
[02:43] <richiefrich> lo
[02:43] <nox-Hand> jesperlarsson, Hej
[02:43] <richiefrich> lol
[02:43] <jesperlarsson> i am doiing an internet page, and it starta give me questions
[02:43] <richiefrich> explain
[02:43] <nox-Hand> yes, please do :)
[02:43] <richiefrich> u are coding xhtml ?
[02:43] <jesperlarsson> the first question is database username, what should i type in there ?
[02:43] <Skaag> ok ies4linux has started its magic, let's hope it works
[02:43] <Skaag> :-)
[02:43] <richiefrich> Skaag does here
[02:44] <Skaag> coolzorz
[02:44] <jesperlarsson> the first question is database username, what should i type in there ?
[02:44] <richiefrich> jesperlarsson u mean  mysql
[02:44] <jesperlarsson> yes
[02:44] <richiefrich> idk what u mean man
[02:44] <madsj> can anyone please tell me where I can find the gateway address in /etc ?
[02:44] <richiefrich> o.O
[02:44] <nox-Hand> jesperlarsson, Is this on a hosted webserver,, or is this your own?
[02:44] <richiefrich> madsj --> routes
[02:44] <jesperlarsson> hosted i think
[02:44] <richiefrich> madsj --> route
[02:45] <nox-Hand> jesperlarsson, you think? oO
[02:45] <bimberi> madsj: /etc/network/interfaces
[02:45] <richiefrich> madsj --> sudo route
[02:45] <nox-Hand> Its either your own PC, or its not. You dont think its another persons pc ;)
[02:45] <jesperlarsson> ITS HOSTED
[02:45] <nox-Hand> Right.
[02:45] <nox-Hand> No reason for CAPS ;)
[02:46] <steigweis> does anyone know a channel, where i can get some translationsupport?
[02:46] <nox-Hand> Well, you need to make a mySQL database. Check the hostings FAQ, they will tell yor what tools to use. Pray to god they use PHPmyADMIN :)
[02:46] <richiefrich> steigweis to what
[02:46] <jesperlarsson> i have a database
[02:46] <nox-Hand> steigweis, what sort of translationsupport
[02:46] <jesperlarsson> look at this
[02:46] <steigweis> german english or just correct my own translation
[02:46] <richiefrich> nox-Hand if he has a shell account he can use the cmd line
[02:46] <nox-Hand> german -> english or the other way?
[02:46] <jesperlarsson> http://jesper.apakosssa.org/php-files/setup.php
[02:46] <nox-Hand> richiefrich, correct
[02:47] <jesperlarsson> http://jesper.apakossa.org/php-files/setup.php
[02:47] <richiefrich> steigweis well u can try my channel i have a few german ppl
[02:47] <steigweis> i need to know, if my translated english is good
[02:47] <jesperlarsson> sorry to many s:es
[02:47] <steigweis> richiefrich, cool
[02:47] <richiefrich> ill pm u
[02:47] <steigweis> thx
[02:47] <sof> what can i use the ekiga softphone program to?
[02:47] <nox-Hand> steigweis, I can look it over :)
[02:47] <nox-Hand> If its not like twenty pages ;)
[02:48] <steigweis> nomego, only 3 sentences
[02:48] <steigweis> sec
[02:48] <speedy> i've installed w32codecs and gstreamer0.10-plugins-base,good,ugly,ugly-multiverse,bad,bad-multiverse,pitfdll,gl,ffmpeg vorbis-tools lame sox ffmpeg mjpegtools and got the movies brightness very high
[02:48] <nox-Hand> steigweis, remember to be identified to pm someone :)
[02:48] <jesperlarsson> what should i type in in the database username ?
[02:48] <Wombles> anyone got ideas why when i attempt to mount a ufs partition i get ufs_read_super: bad magic number as an error?
[02:48] <jesperlarsson> what should i type in in the database username ?
[02:48] <jesperlarsson> what should i type in in the database username ?
[02:48] <jesperlarsson> what should i type in in the database username ?
[02:48] <jesperlarsson> what should i type in in the database username ?
[02:48] <jesperlarsson> what should i type in in the database username ?
[02:48] <jesperlarsson> what should i type in in the database username ?
[02:48] <LoRez> Warning: `jesperlarsson' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[02:48] <nox-Hand> jesperlarsson, wow wow wooow!
[02:48] <jrib> !repeat > jesperlarsson
[02:49] <jesperlarsson> come on
[02:49] <nox-Hand> jesperlarsson, You need to make the database, OR, use the info for the created database
[02:49] <richiefrich> steigweis they are there now
[02:49] <nox-Hand> We CANNOT tell you that. Thats for you to know, and US NOT TO KNOW, as its security :)
[02:49] <jesperlarsson> what should i type in in the database namne box?
[02:49] <richiefrich> steigweis  and awake so u can go there now
[02:49] <nox-Hand> Oh, and technically, this is not a Ubuntu question, but what the heck, we will help as we can
[02:49] <waspius> !pastebin
[02:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:49] <nox-Hand> jesperlarsson, "<nox-Hand> jesperlarsson, You need to make the database, OR, use the info for the created database"
[02:50] <kartik> !ldap
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ldap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <nox-Hand> i.e, you need to make a mySQL database, or use one you HAVE created YOURSELF, as we cannot tell you it.
[02:50] <kartik> !openldap
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openldap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <kartik> uhh
[02:51] <richiefrich> nox-Hand i think he was an idot
[02:51] <virogenesis> Hi I'm having problems with my ov518 i did have it working but now i'm getting these errors /dev/video: Function not implemented
[02:51] <virogenesis> 
[02:51] <NemesisUK> |xgl
[02:51] <NemesisUK> !xgl
[02:51] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:51] <nox-Hand> richiefrich, Well some people cannot wait to read what is in front of them. Some people shouldnt even have a webserver, and shouldnt ask like they are eight. I personally think he was 11 ^^
[02:52] <richiefrich> nox-Hand and i can try to whip a .config for u to then dcc it or email it to u if need be
[02:52] <richiefrich> nox-Hand but i know u did it before .. so i got faith
[02:52] <nox-Hand> richiefrich, I think I can do most myself :)
[02:52] <nox-Hand> though....I hate this website :P I cant find the vanilla kernel xD
[02:52] <richiefrich> nox-Hand ok then
[02:53] <richiefrich> let me look
[02:53] <waspius> can someone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21203 i am trying to mount an iso file but i cannot
[02:53] <nox-Hand> Cheers
[02:54] <speedy> how to solve brightness issue after installing some codecs?
[02:54] <nox-Hand> waspius, you dont mount ISOs with mount commands. Thats for drives :)
[02:54] <richiefrich> nox-Hand  ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.17.9.tar.gz
[02:54] <nox-Hand> Get this: sudo apt-get install fuseiso
[02:54] <nox-Hand> I think it might work
[02:54] <nox-Hand> Not sure
[02:55] <waspius> nox-Hand: that what they told me in here
[02:55] <cappiz> someone knows of a webbased firewall for iptables?
[02:55] <nox-Hand> to use mount? wow, I didnt think it would work..
[02:55] <waspius> nox-Hand: do u know how i can mount an iso file?
[02:55] <waspius> cappicrd: guarddog
[02:56] <nox-Hand> waspius, Just trying to mount one myself so I can tell you, never done it before
[02:56] <waspius> cappicrd: i think
[02:56] <cappiz> waspius thats not webbased =) ?
[02:56] <waspius> cappiz: sorry:(
[02:57] <cappiz> ;)
[02:57] <g-henna> hi!
[02:57] <g-henna> how can i get the "checking all disks" thingy out of the boot process?
[02:57] <nox-Hand> waspius, might just take a while, not sure I have any ISOs on my PC....searching
[02:58] <nox-Hand> richiefrich, Cheers :)
[02:58] <richiefrich> nox-Hand i think thats it
[02:58] <jrib> waspius: you are missing some \ to escape the spaces in The Frozen Throne aren't you?
[02:58] <OoberMick> waspius: sudo mount -o loop test.iso /mnt/
[03:00] <g-henna> is there no one here with a dual-boot machine that was pissed off because ubuntu checks windows partitions at every boot?
[03:00] <waspius> OoberMick: dont work
[03:01] <waspius> jrib: dont know
[03:01] <nox-Hand> g-henna, I am just pissed with the new Ubuntu installer that does NOT ask whether it should install a boot loader.
[03:01] <nox-Hand> bugger if you have one already
[03:01] <Phirax> has anyone got flash (ie gnash) working on AMD64?
[03:01] <g-henna> nox-Hand: it just installs one, right?
[03:01] <waspius> i tried to use mountiso application but that gives me an error
[03:01] <g-henna> Phirax: flash isn't available for that platform
[03:01] <NemesisUK> waspius,  sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 test.iso /mnt/
[03:01] <jrib> waspius: just press TAB and let bash complete the filename, don't write it out yourself
[03:01] <nox-Hand> g-henna, now it does, yes.
[03:01] <g-henna> try the free flash implementations
[03:02] <snoops> such as gnash g-henna?
[03:02] <nox-Hand> I bugged enough people for it to be changed in next release, I think. That was the idea anywho. Got enough devs interested about it.
[03:02] <Phirax> g-henna: i know not officially, but gnash is a flashplayer gnu project
[03:02] <waspius> jrib: it does not write it..it gives me the txt file..for some reason i cannot cd to it
[03:02] <Phirax> i can't find any gnash deb files for AMD64
[03:03] <OoberMick> waspius: check obvious stuff, does the directory you are mounting in exist? Is the file name correct?
[03:03] <natasa> hi... can someone help me with my sound... I can hear nothing.... what to do?
[03:05] <g-henna> Phirax: libflash? libswf?
[03:05] <snoops> Phirax hmm.. I had no issues installing gnash for amd64.. they didnt' work for youtube etc.. but installing was fine.. added universe and multiverse repos? The best solution tends to be a chroot 32bit environment for firefox/wine/flash 7 for firefox natively/flash 9 or win version of flash for wine
[03:05] <Phirax> g-henna: would that be in the repos..?
[03:06] <Phirax> oh yeah
[03:06] <bkudria> can someone help me get my broadcom wireless card working with bcm43xx?  "iwlist eth1 scan" says "no scan results"
[03:06] <Phirax> i snoops: oh yeah i was thinking about using a 32bit enviroment along side but no idea how to do it
[03:06] <g-henna> Phirax: in my universe/multiverse, yes
[03:07] <ben_underscore> bkudria, have you installed the firmware for the card?
[03:07] <snoops> Phirax there's some pretty good guides on ubuntuforums
[03:07] <snoops> all you really need to do is search for flash amd64
[03:07] <snoops> and lots of results come up
[03:07] <bkudria> ben_underscore: i followed the guide, and it said to install the bcm43xx-firmware package...i did...is that enough?
[03:08] <fuci> Hello, where does the programs go when used "apt-get install"- command? I installed BitTornado but cant find it anywhere. Thanks.
[03:08] <Phirax> snoops: oh i might have alook then
[03:08] <Phirax> snoops: i was actually thinking it may be easier to drop back to 32bit and trash AMD64
[03:08] <ben_underscore> bkudria, yep, that's what i meant sorry. have you done the windows driver for the card now?
[03:09] <ben_underscore> bkudria, using ndiswrapper??
[03:09] <VikJES> bkudria: I managed to get my Broadcom 4318 working (more or less) by following a howto on ubuntuforums.org
[03:09] <bkudria> ben_underscore: no...i'm using the bcm43xx driver, well, i want to
[03:09] <kyja> fast question. I ordered some cd's absolutly wonderful because I plan to promote this so its nice to have some sharp copies. the site approved me and there on there way and I read I can order one more time. My question is this... is this per release or does that mean I can make one more order in my lifetime?
[03:09] <bkudria> VikJES: could you link to it?  i followed one on the wiki or something
[03:09] <ben_underscore> bkudria, ok. i used the one that shipped with my card. it worked ok.
[03:10] <bkudria> ben_underscore: so you're using ndiswrapper...
[03:10] <VikJES> bkudria: let me try to find it but first are using WEP or WPA(2)?
[03:10] <bkudria> kyja: i believe you can make one order per release
[03:10] <kyja> k
[03:11] <bkudria> VikJES: no
[03:11] <VikJES> bkudria: no encryption at all on your AP?
[03:11] <UbuntuBantu> hi, I'm a total Ubuntu newbie, just switched from Windows and having some issues accessing my NTFS partitions.  I know they can't be written to, but atm I cannot even browse them, anone care top give me a hand?
[03:12] <bkudria> VikJES: none...but it's ok, i'm in the middle of nowhere :)
[03:12] <VikJES> bkudria: it should work fairly easily then
[03:12] <bkudria> VikJES: plus, i believe in sharing
[03:12] <snoops> Phirax heh that's what I did, because I can't stand having to spend my time making an os work, when I just want to use it :)
[03:12] <OoberMick> fuci: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=bittornado&version=dapper&arch=all
[03:12] <bkudria> VikJES: well, yes, it should
[03:12] <ben_underscore> bkudria, yes. but i had to install the firmware first, then the driver. it was a while ago so it's a little hazy. ndiswrapper takes the windows driver and wraps it as a kernel module (or whatever).
[03:13] <bkudria> VikJES: if you could help me get it to work, i would be eternally grateful
[03:13] <kyja> UbuntuBantu: that is odd that this has stopped for you. does the volume even mount ?
[03:13] <snoops> UbuntuBantu when you installed your ntfs partitions weren't added to ubuntu automatically?
[03:13] <ben_underscore> bkudria, i'm just trying to find the link i used
[03:13] <VikJES> bkudria: bear with me I'll find the URL
[03:13] <bkudria> ben_underscore: right...but i wanted to try and get the native driver working first
[03:13] <bkudria> ben_underscore, VikJES : ok...
[03:13] <Phirax> snoops: yeah at this stage i'm just over getting it to work after having all the problems i had installing in the first place
[03:14] <ben_underscore> bkudria, here we go http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&highlight=ndiswrapper
[03:14] <bewst> Having the dreaded "locale not supported" problem.  Scoured the web for answers, but nothing works for me.
[03:14] <bewst> Anyone know how to address this?
[03:14] <UbuntuBantu> kyja: they're visible if I browse "computer" ie all drives are seen, but not accessible - I get the following when double clicking on a drive icon : error: device /dev/sde1 is not removable error: could not execute pmount
[03:14] <ben_underscore> bkudria, get it working, then make it pretty :-)
[03:14] <nox-Hand> richiefrich, Right, now I must uncompress the kernel source to ?
[03:14] <cAtarro> ciao a tutti
[03:14] <bkudria> ben_underscore: :)
[03:15] <nox-Hand> Its different in ubuntu..
[03:15] <UbuntuBantu> looks like a permissions thing to me?
[03:15] <cAtarro>  possibile scriverer in italiano ?
[03:15] <richiefrich> nox-Hand no no  /usr/src
[03:15] <nox-Hand> Oh, sweet.
[03:15] <ben_underscore> bkudria, hope you get it going. i've got to split
[03:15] <nox-Hand> Then a symlink later on..
[03:15] <cAtarro> ho problemi x l'installazione di xubuntu... non ci riesco prorpio
[03:15] <cAtarro> posso chiedere qui o c' un canale apposta ?
[03:16] <VikJES> bkudria: here it is: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&highlight=broadcom
[03:16] <OoberMick> cAtarro: /join #ubuntu-es
[03:16] <bkudria> ben_underscore: hey, thanks!
[03:16] <bewst> Oh, sorry... I don't know any irc nettiquette.  Do people normally talk over one another?
[03:16] <cAtarro> OoberMick: why u say to me to go in spain ch ?
[03:16] <ben_underscore> OoberMick, it's italian, not spainsh
[03:16] <richiefrich> nox-Hand yes yes ..  cd /usr/src && ln -s  linux-VER linux
[03:16] <kyja> UbuntuBantu: So it is reconized but never mounted. try to see if you can mount this volume useing terminal.
[03:16] <ben_underscore> bewst, yes
[03:16] <bewst> Okay, thanks.
[03:16] <bkudria> OoberMick: are you sure that's spanish?  it looks like italian to me
[03:16] <bkudria> VikJES: cool, thanks
[03:16] <Phirax> snoops: ahh i found a 32bit version of firefox that run on AMD64
[03:17] <nox-Hand> richiefrich, tar <whatever it is> linux<fooversion> /usr/src/ ?
[03:17] <richiefrich> nox-Hand cd linx % make menuconfig && make && make install modules_install
[03:17] <bewst> Anyone have experience with the locale problem?
[03:17] <ben_underscore> cAtarro, because he doesn't recognise italiano!
[03:17] <OoberMick> Err ok s/spain/italy/
[03:17] <Phirax> snoops: seems to run ok, just need to figure out how to install flash for it
[03:17] <VikJES> bkudria: this howto covers the "non ndiswrapper" way to get it to work
[03:17] <UbuntuBantu> looking at a drive through Disks Manager I can see the device path as /tmp/disks-conf-sdc1
[03:17] <bewst> It manifests as Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
[03:17] <richiefrich> nox-Hand i just --> mv -v linux-2.6.17.9.tar.gz /usr/src
[03:17] <bewst> and also as some Perl warnings
[03:17] <stray_77> !it
[03:17] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:18] <mundisko> #ubuntu
[03:18] <richiefrich> nox-Hand cd /usr/src && tar xzvf  linux-2.6.17.9.tar.gz
[03:18] <nox-Hand> Yeah. Cheers
[03:18] <UbuntuBantu> kyja: mount shows: /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) proc on /proc type proc (rw) /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw) varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw) varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw) procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-amd64-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw) /dev/sdc1 o
[03:19] <UbuntuBantu> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[03:19] <UbuntuBantu> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[03:19] <UbuntuBantu> /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[03:19] <UbuntuBantu> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)
[03:19] <UbuntuBantu> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw)
[03:19] <UbuntuBantu> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[03:19] <UbuntuBantu> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
[03:19] <UbuntuBantu> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[03:19] <UbuntuBantu> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[03:19] <OoberMick> !pastebin
[03:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:19] <UbuntuBantu> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-amd64-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[03:19] <UbuntuBantu> /dev/sdc1 on /tmp/disks-conf-sdc1 type ntfs (rw)
[03:19] <UbuntuBantu> /dev/sde1 on /tmp/disks-conf-sde1 type ntfs (rw)
[03:19] <UbuntuBantu> /dev/sdf1 on /tmp/disks-conf-sdf1 type ntfs (rw)
[03:19] <UbuntuBantu> /dev/sdg1 on /tmp/disks-conf-sdg1 type ntfs (rw)/dev/sdh1 on /tmp/disks-conf-sdh1 type ntfs (rw)
[03:19] <UbuntuBantu> sorry
[03:19] <UbuntuBantu> thx
[03:20] <kyja> !! ohmy !!
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohmy !! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:20] <bewst> I'm close to doing a clean reinstall (maybe preserve /home and /usr/local) because I can't find any answers
[03:20] <kyja> yeah hehe UbuntuBantu use the pastebin =]  its kinda cool
[03:20] <bkudria> VikJES: do i really honestly have to reboot?!
[03:22] <richiefrich> nox-Hand ok  man im outy. for a bit.. just pm if need be ill answer when i get back
[03:22] <VikJES> bkudria: Frankly I don't know if you can make it work without the reboot, I assume you could but I never tried it
[03:22] <nox-Hand> Cheers, richiefrich
[03:22] <finalbeta> can I open passworded rar files?
[03:22] <kyja> UbuntuBantu: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[03:22] <UbuntuBantu> all my ntfs hdds are shown as /dev/sdc1 on /tmp/disks-conf-sdc1 type ntfs (rw)  ie /dev/sd (c1, e1, f1, g1, h1) on /tmp/disks-conf-sdc1, e1 etc all type ntfs (rw)
[03:22] <bewst> Okay, looks like I have to reinstall, then.  I just can't understand how a problem so prevalent can remain so unaddressed though!
[03:22] <fuci> OoberMick: I thank you.
[03:22] <h1> mm
[03:23] <kyja> finalbeta: perhaps with a password =] 
[03:23] <bkudria> VikJES: weel, it doesn't work, so i guess i'll try
[03:23] <UbuntuBantu> thx kyja
[03:23] <bewst> ciao.
[03:23] <finalbeta> when I click the rar the thing gives an error right away, doesn't give me an option to enter a password
[03:23] <UbuntuBantu> first time I've run a linux distro that doesn't allow ntfs read access out of the box
[03:25] <kyja> UbuntuBantu: it does so I find it strange that it is not working for you.
[03:25] <OoberMick> fuci: no problem, you might also want to install bittornado-gui
[03:26] <kyja> grrr. rain is a thorn in my side. cant keep a connection.
[03:26] <UbuntuBantu> but I'm very impressed in general.  Just built a new PC Intel d975xbx - perhaps that is why, new Intel and SI chipsets for SATA
[03:27] <kyja> good. I like ubuntu alot. however since frinday I have had some very strange things happening. I think due to alot of tweaking and installs
[03:28] <kyja> I should have taken it slower, I think I created conflicts.
[03:28] <VikJES> kyja: have you used Automatix at all?
[03:28] <kyja> but, I have fallen in love with this os.
[03:29] <kyja> VikJES: no I haven't
[03:29] <VikJES> kyla: Ok, sometimes it can break things in Ubuntu
[03:29] <UbuntuBantu> ic, I'm hoping the learning curve is not too steep - I'm always pushed for time but really don't want to revert to windoze.  if there is an exceptional need I plan to run xp inside vmware
[03:29] <klm-> kyja: tweaking is bad. only install stuff with apt.
[03:29] <kyja> oh !! I will keep that in mind
[03:30] <waspius> does anyone use mountiso application?
[03:30] <VikJES> waspius: what does it do exactly?
[03:31] <waspius> VikJES: it is supposed to mount iso images like alkohol
[03:31] <fuci> OoberMick: thanks for the hint ;) I was wondering why there wasn't any apps in my "Programs -> Internet" menu :)
[03:31] <GenghisKhan> waspius: you can mount an iso image with the mount command
[03:31] <stray_77> ubuntubantu -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[03:31] <waspius> GenghisKhan: i cannot i have been trying for ages
[03:31] <GenghisKhan> waspius: just do mount image.iso /directory/to/mount
[03:31] <VikJES> waspius: I use the command line "sudo mount -o ro,loop /path/to/ISO /mount/point to do this
[03:31] <GenghisKhan> waspius: what's the error it gives?
[03:31] <kyja> UbuntuBantu: well, vmware is good idea if you need full os however you could use wine for many window exe
[03:32] <botch> hey guys
[03:32] <waspius> GenghisKhan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21204
[03:32] <GenghisKhan> yes, you need to use -o loop. maybe it's that
[03:32] <botch> i can't get opengl working on my Matrox G450
[03:32] <botch> anyone experienced with that hardware?
[03:33] <adminx> Sorry botch, Intel 915 here.
[03:33] <control> !ru
[03:33] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[03:33] <pulani> I think ATI users can relate most to you botch.
[03:33] <GenghisKhan> waspius, you have to escape all the spaces in the path or enclose it in " "
[03:33] <botch> pulani: why do you think so?
[03:34] <OoberMick> waspius: I think you need to escape [ with \[ and so on
[03:34] <adminx> I seen that ATI can use AIGLX / Compiz
[03:34] <waspius> OoberMick: does not work either
[03:35] <bkudria> VikJES: it didn't work :(  i get: "# sudo iwlist eth1 scan" "eth1      Interface doesn't support scanning : No such device"
[03:35] <adminx> Here was the link I read it on:
[03:35] <adminx> http://corvillus.com/2006/08/03/how-to-set-up-aiglx-and-compiz-on-ubuntu-606-running-gnome/
[03:36] <OoberMick> waspius: copy the file to /tmp/short.iso then try again. I'm pretty sure the problem is the filename is wrong
[03:36] <UbuntuBantu> kyja: mount: /dev/sdc1 already mounted or /media/windows/ busy ; mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdc1 is mounted on /tmp/disks-conf-sdc1
[03:36] <GenghisKhan> waspius, i see you are asking the same on #kubuntu. just do sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop,ro /home/waspius/Desktop/kubuntu-debian-linux/Warcraft\ III\ and\ The\ Frozen\ Throne\ \[Disk\ 1\] .iso.iso /mnt/iso-1
[03:37] <GenghisKhan> and of course, /mnt/iso-1 has to exist
[03:37] <Hoxzer> where can I find "howto" for making alsa-oss emulation
[03:37] <VikJES> bkudria: do you some led/light indicating the status of your wifi card (is it built-in)?
[03:37] <waspius> GenghisKhan: now i get command not found
[03:37] <VikJES> bkudria: do you have some*
[03:38] <bkudria> VikJES: built in...but actually, now the light is orange, whereas before it was blue
[03:38] <control> anybody speak on russian?
[03:38] <GenghisKhan> waspius, type well
[03:38] <bkudria> control: a bit
[03:38] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell control about ru
[03:38] <control> what?
[03:39] <onorin> anyone experience with CGWD here ?
[03:39] <BlueEagle> control: ubotu should have sendt you a private message with good advice.
[03:39] <redcard> Does anyone know any good programmable keyboards that work in Ubuntu/PPC
[03:39] <VikJES> bkudria: gimme a sec, I'll read the Howto again (I used it a few months ago)
[03:39] <botch> http://pastebin.ca/140458 <-- thats what drm says on startup. please, could somebody tell me, what is saying?
[03:39] <bkudria> control: you asked "anybody speak on russian?" ... i speak a bit of russian
[03:39] <BlueEagle> redcard: "programmable" keyboard?
[03:39] <bkudria> VikJES: thanks
[03:39] <bkudria> onorin: a bit :)
[03:39] <stray_77> !ru
[03:39] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[03:40] <onorin> bkudria, I have a problem with that
[03:40] <bkudria> stray_77: that is the most terrible russian i have ever seen :)
[03:40] <onorin> bkudria, I have installed compiz and xgl and it looks working . But I suddenly realized I don!'t have the titlebars
[03:40] <stray_77> blame the bot
[03:40] <bkudria> onorin: did you install cgwd?
[03:40] <onorin> bkudria, and I resolved this issue with "gnome-window-decorator&"
[03:40] <sharperguy> onorin, #ubuntu-xgl
[03:40] <adminx> You might look here for cgwd help
[03:40] <sharperguy> !xgl
[03:40] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:40] <adminx> http://www.compiz.net/
[03:41] <bkudria> onorin: right...
[03:41] <bkudria> onorin: that's good advice...
[03:41] <control>      siemens s65?
[03:41] <onorin> bkudria, I installed cgwd but when I select a theme nothing happens
[03:41] <bkudria> onorin: #ubunut-xgl
[03:41] <onorin> bkudria, sharperguy I was in #xgl
[03:41] <onorin> bkudria, I will go there, but if you know it please guide me
[03:41] <sharperguy> not #ubuntu-xgl?
[03:41] <redcard> BlueEagle: A keyboard with more than your typical keys.. keys that turn on things, activate things, run things :)  Like music, web, etc :P
[03:41] <bkudria> onorin: but i don't
[03:41] <bkudria> sharperguy: i have a hangover :)
[03:42] <onorin> ok thanx
[03:42] <bkudria> redcard: i have one of those :)
[03:42] <sharperguy> bkudria, whats that got to do with anything?
[03:42] <VikJES> bkudria: what does Network Manager gives you about your bcm4318?
[03:42] <redcard> bukdria: And.. which one :)
[03:42] <bkudria> sharperguy: the pain impairs my ability to type
[03:42] <bkudria> VikJES: technically, i'm on kubuntu
[03:42] <BlueEagle> redcard: linux has generally very little support for such. I've got a bZerk with loads of buttons and the keyboard short cut manager does only allow for some of them to be used.
[03:43] <sharperguy> type what?
[03:43] <bkudria> VikJES: and i'm good with the cli
[03:43] <VikJES> bkudria: ok
[03:43] <bkudria> VikJES: but it says "no network device found"
[03:43] <kyja> oh man my connection :( rotten weather
[03:43] <corndog_> I successfully got my dual monitors set up but is there a way to make windows load in a single monitor instead of split between the two screens?
[03:44] <BlueEagle> redcard: The keys I'm having problems setting are web back/forward/stop and favorites
[03:44] <bkudria> sharperguy: you said "not #ubuntu-xgl?" after i said "#ubunut-xgl"
[03:44] <drbashir> !filesystem
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filesystem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <drbashir> !ext2
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <Deanodriver> hmm
[03:44] <m00ndancer> Anyone got a LCD TV ACER to work with a Nvidia ti4200 custom res 1360x768? Tried all the howtos and such :(
[03:44] <onorin> sharperguy, bkudria , no one repsonds in ubuntu-xgl
[03:44] <sharperguy> bkudria, oh right, i was talking to onorin
[03:44] <bkudria> BlueEagle: what kind of keyboard is it?  i can help, possibly
[03:44] <fuci> What's a good editor for coding xHTML, PHP and CSS?
[03:44] <bkudria> sharperguy: :)
[03:44] <onorin> sharperguy, bkudria so if you have an idea please guide me
[03:45] <bkudria> onorin: maybe it's too early?
[03:45] <jorik> fuci: bluefish, vim, ...
[03:45] <BlueEagle> bkudria: It's not important because I use mouse gestures for that stuff anyways. :)
[03:45] <OoberMick> jorik: emacs!!
[03:45] <sharperguy> its 14:45 in this timezone
[03:45] <fuci> jorik: ok, thanks
[03:45] <Deanodriver> when i try to list files within a directory with ls, sometimes I get cannot access:permission denied, even if i'm root user
[03:45] <VikJES> bkudria: what did you do at step 5, I assume there's an KDE equivalent to network-manager-gnome?
[03:45] <bkudria> BlueEagle: well, you can get it to work if "xev" detects the keypresses...
[03:45] <Deanodriver> and i can't even chmod to file so i can access it
[03:45] <Deanodriver> *the
[03:45] <Deanodriver> does anyone know what i'm doing wrong?
[03:45] <CrazyDoode> pardon me for interupting, but Broadcom bcm4318 is ->not<- supported out of the box, please google bcm43xx to bkudria  find the bcm43xx project and follow those directions and it will work fine. Do not use ndiswrapper in ubuntu.
[03:46] <jorik> OoberMick: emacs ...  pshht, he's not coding lisp is he ? >:)
[03:46] <bkudria> CrazyDoode: actually, that is exactly what i am doing
[03:46] <BlueEagle> bkudria: ...and if the application you want to combine them with allows for such keys.
[03:46] <sharperguy> how can i convert files to .mp3 with soundconverter? I installed all recommended packeges and even lame and make a sysmlink from libmp3lame.so.0 to libmp3lame.so and the mp3 option is still greyed out
[03:46] <bkudria> BlueEagle: well, i use kde, and everything works :)
[03:46] <control> gde vzyat' drova dlya siemens s65?
[03:47] <CrazyDoode> bkudria, may i pm you?
[03:47] <BlueEagle> bkudria: I would like to bind web back/forward and stop to xmms previous, next and stop (or rather pause)
[03:47] <UbuntuBantu> could someone plz explain to me how the following mount takes place automatically under ubuntu when fstab has no entries for it? /dev/sde1 on /tmp/disks-conf-sde1 type ntfs (rw)
[03:47] <relachs> hi, i'm still having this problem that ubuntu doesnt let me create one more partition for swap... It says "no more than 4 primary partitions allowed" or so... i cant create an extended either
[03:47] <OoberMick> jorik: must.. resist.. religous... war
[03:47] <sharperguy> i had no such trouble in breezt
[03:47] <sharperguy> *breezy
[03:47] <bkudria> control: vaidi v #ubuntu-ru: tam tebe pomojete
[03:47] <neurogenic> help /msg
[03:47] <bkudria> CrazyDoode: go ahead
[03:48] <bkudria> BlueEagle: do you have the keys bound to keysyms?  run xev, and press the keys
[03:48] <onorin> bkudria, my problem is that I can't have titlebars with CGWD but only with gnome-window-manager
[03:48] <sharperguy> how can i convert files to .mp3 with soundconverter?
[03:48] <BlueEagle> relachs: That's not ubuntu spesific but goes for every os (even windows). You will need to remove one of your primary partitions and create an extended partition in its place. Extended partitions can hold several logical partitions. The limit in linux is 15 partitions + the extended partition.
[03:49] <sharperguy> the option is grayed out
[03:49] <bkudria> VikJES: err, sorry....i didn't really do anything for step 5....like i said, i'm comfortable with the cli
[03:49] <control> tam nikogo net
[03:49] <Skaag> richiefrich and nox-Hand, thanks a lot, IE6 works now... :-)
[03:50] <bkudria> control: nu, pajalaste ne sdec...vi vsej pugaiyti :)
[03:50] <Skaag> now I can see what my site looks like on the lamest browser...
[03:50] <sharperguy> Skaag, what opera?
[03:50] <nox-Hand> Skaag, great
[03:50] <redcard> So.. a bZerk?
[03:50] <nox-Hand> What do you need ie4linux for?
[03:51] <monkeyhead> Hi
[03:51] <redcard> Good god, what do you need IE for Windows for..
[03:51] <monkeyhead> whats the package for flash player?
[03:51] <relachs> BlueEagle: Thanks for the info, but the thing is that i created 1 "/" for ubuntu. Thats a primary one. Then i been told to delete this and create an extended. I tried but i can only choose "primary" from teh drop downmenu
[03:51] <sharperguy> nox-Hand, to test websites out to see how they look in ie
[03:51] <bkudria> onorin: i really don't know
[03:51] <nox-Hand> sharperguy, thats the best AND only reason :)
[03:51] <sharperguy> yep
[03:52] <onorin> bkudria, thanks
[03:52] <BlueEagle> bkudria: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21205 <= output from xev
[03:52] <VikJES> bkudria: ok, I tried getting it to work without network manager (from the command line) but couldn't and since I'm new to wifi in general, I decided to follow the howto to the letter
[03:52] <bkudria> VikJES: well, i'll keep trying...
[03:52] <bkudria> VikJES: but nm-applet doesn't work
[03:53] <BlueEagle> relachs: Some partitioners insist on the extended partition is to be the 4th primary partition.
[03:53] <OoberMick> sharperguy: did you ask about mp3 in soundconverter?
[03:53] <sharperguy> yep
[03:53] <OoberMick> sharperguy: you need gstreamer0.8-lame
[03:53] <sharperguy> ill try
[03:53] <BlueEagle> relachs: I am not sure if this is a general harddisk limitation. I've never tried to set a primary partition behind an extended one.
[03:54] <sharperguy> surprised that isnt already installed tbh
[03:54] <relachs> Im stuck :(
[03:54] <bkudria> BlueEagle: ok, they're detected fine...next step is xmms
[03:54] <bkudria> BlueEagle: about which, of course, i have no idea :)
[03:54] <rummik> ah, where do i go to thank someone for this awesome distro?
[03:55] <BlueEagle> bkudria: :)
[03:55] <corndog_> Anyone have dual monitor experience? I got them working properly but I want windows to load in a single monitor, not split between them.
[03:55] <relachs> i mean, i cannot delete the other partitions, grr
[03:55] <OoberMick> sharperguy: soundconverter should probably recommmend it
[03:55] <BlueEagle> bkudria: XMMS uses the same keyboard short cuts as winamp
[03:55] <sharperguy> OoberMick, yea
[03:55] <bkudria> BlueEagle: ok...but that doesn't help us here
[03:55] <BlueEagle> bkudria: The solution I am thinking of is running xmms --next and --previous and --paused when the keys are detected.
[03:56] <bkudria> BlueEagle: you could do that
[03:56] <sharperguy> :)
[03:56] <bkudria> BlueEagle: again, in kde, that's easy...i'm not sure about gnome
[03:56] <BlueEagle> bkudria: however I cannot find such a feature under keyboard short cuts that allows me to specify which commands to run to the keys
[03:56] <sharperguy> not to get an oggplayer so i dont need it anymore
[03:56] <sharperguy> *now
[03:56] <BlueEagle> bkudria: there are just a set of predefined actions avail.
[03:57] <bkudria> BlueEagle: why use xmms?  why not another gnome sound app that you can assign shortcuts in?
[03:57] <BlueEagle> bkudria: Ofcourse in compiz/xgl I've got a possibillity.
[03:57] <BlueEagle> bkudria: Because I like xmms.
[03:57] <BlueEagle> bkudria: I've been using it for years and I find the others cumbersome and aquard at best.
[03:58] <bkudria> BlueEagle: amarok is the best :)
[03:58] <VikJES> bkudria: i found this document in the wiki: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[03:58] <redcard> bkudria: Amarok is over kill
[03:58] <BlueEagle> bkudria: quality is very often a subjective definition.
[03:58] <VikJES> bkudria: never used it but it looks pretty detailed
[03:58] <bkudria> VikJES: that's what i started with
[03:59] <TLE> Does anybody have packaging experience ?
[03:59] <BlueEagle> tle: I packed a car when two friends moved a couple of weeks ago.
[03:59] <UbuntuBantu> anyone?  could someone plz explain to me how the following mount takes place automatically under ubuntu when fstab has no entries for it? /dev/sde1 on /tmp/disks-conf-sde1 type ntfs (rw)
[04:00] <BlueEagle> tle: I've also sendt a great deal of stuff in the mail.
[04:00] <OoberMick> BlueEagle: damn i was going to make that joke
[04:00] <BlueEagle> oobermick: There are typing tutors availible that might improve your speed. :)
[04:00] <UbuntuBantu> if I don't get this sorted I'm going to have to install win so my wife can access her email :(
[04:00] <OoberMick> BlueEagle: i just need to think faster
[04:00] <rummik> hey, when the live cd ejected it knocked my keyboard off the desk!
[04:01] <VikJES> bkudria: well I think you know more than I do on this whole thing then...
[04:01] <BlueEagle> ouch
[04:01] <pepsi> rummik, that's a new feature
[04:01] <bkudria> UbuntuBantu: is that a threat ?!
[04:01] <BlueEagle> ubuntubantu: ntfs is write enabled? o.O
[04:01] <ilgaz> hi guys, any chance Ubuntu supports a liquid cooled weird quad core G5? (before I waste anyone bandwidth)
[04:01] <UbuntuBantu> bkudia:  no, it's a desperate plea for help
[04:01] <ilgaz> even OS X 10.4.0 is not recommended that is why I am confused :)
[04:02] <TLE> BlueEagle: Sorry I wasn't being specific enough. What I meant was does anybody have any experience packaging software into .deb's ?
[04:02] <sharperguy> ok now how do i get it to actually convert the files?
[04:02] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell tle about anyone
[04:02] <UbuntuBantu> BlueEagle: this is what mount shows: /dev/sde1 on /tmp/disks-conf-sde1 type ntfs (rw)
[04:02] <bkudria> VikJES: thanks for the help anyway!
[04:03] <UbuntuBantu> I'm not able to access the drives though
[04:03] <sharperguy> I press convert and it says "conversion done in 8 seconds" (way to short) and it didnt actually do anything
[04:03] <sharperguy> converting from wma
[04:03] <UbuntuBantu> basically have the same problem with all my hdd's other than the one Ubuntu is installed on
[04:03] <nox-Hand> richiefrich, Hey, are you there?
[04:04] <Raziekiel> If I have a 64bit cpu, should I dual boot ubuntu64 and the i386 one?
[04:04] <OoberMick> sharperguy: does gstreamer support wma?
[04:04] <BlueEagle> ubuntubantu: and nothing in /etc/fstab about sde1?
[04:04] <UbuntuBantu> nope, just use 64
[04:05] <UbuntuBantu> BlueEagle: nope
[04:05] <sharperguy> dunno, but i have done wma-mp3 before with breezy+soundconverter
[04:05] <TLE> BlueEagle: What? was I being grammatically incorrect or did I do something which is not allowed ?
[04:05] <BlueEagle> ubuntubantu: open a terminal and cd /etc/ then run rgrep sde1 *
[04:05] <BlueEagle> ubuntubantu: You will get a couple of access denied I guess but look for anything other than that.
[04:05] <VikJES> bkudria: no pb...
[04:05] <ubuntu> hello is there any ftp client for ubuntu that supports recursive uploading?
[04:06] <williswatson> reiserfs    VS    ext3   which better?????????????
[04:06] <reiki> I seem to have an issue with Synaptic and the automatic updates. The notifier works, the application starts and shows me items to be updated, I click "istall updates" and it downloads and does not install.  Or at least APPEARS to download
[04:06] <BlueEagle> tle: It's better to ask the question about what the problem is, not if anyone has got any experience with a general procedure. For example if you're getting any error messages then that's often useful to include. If you're just looking for a tutorial then ask for a tutorial on the subject.
[04:06] <VikJES> ubuntu: I'm not sure but I think gFTP does
[04:07] <nomad111> hey everyone how can i change my screen resolution, ubuntu doesnt recognise my monitor
[04:07] <UbuntuBantu> BlueEagle: blkid.tab:/dev/sde1 blkid.tab.old:/dev/sde1vice>
[04:07] <TLE> BlueEagle: Ok ok, got it. I'm new to this irc client, so I hadn't seen the new message
[04:07] <Flamekebab> Does anyone know which packages are required to get Suspend up and running on Toshiba Portege laptops?
[04:07] <BlueEagle> ubuntubantu: hang on, I'll try to figure out what blkid.tab is.
[04:08] <williswatson> nomad111    system->  maybe Num2  ->  resolution
[04:08] <nomad111> plz someone help my screen resolution
[04:08] <nomad111> ok
[04:08] <UbuntuBantu> BlueEagle: sorry, here's the whole shooting match: blkid.tab:/dev/sde1 blkid.tab.old:/dev/sde1vice>
[04:08] <nomad111> williswatson: i only 1024x768 in that list
[04:08] <UbuntuBantu> "blkid.tab:<device DEVNO="0x0841" TIME="1156081580" TYPE="ntfs">/dev/sde1</device >"
[04:08] <nomad111> williswatson: cant pick anything else
[04:08] <williswatson> nomad111   .......
[04:09] <UbuntuBantu> BlueEagle also "blkid.tab.old:<device DEVNO="0x0841" TIME="1156081580" TYPE="ntfs">/dev/sde1</de vice>"
[04:09] <BlueEagle> ubuntubantu: have you tried mounting your partition (ie. does it give you an error stating that it's already mounted?
[04:09] <Deanodriver> does anyone know why i can't read these files?
[04:09] <BoBAV_3x> Hi
[04:09] <BlueEagle> ubuntubantu: Have you attempted to add sd1 to fstab and see if blkid still grabs it+
[04:10] <VikJES> nomad111: I had the same problem with my notebook, I used this tutorial to fix the problem: https://wiki.caosity.org/tiki-index.php?page=X%20Server%20Configuration (Getting the right mode for an LCD monitor)
[04:10] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell deanodriver about anyone
[04:10] <UbuntuBantu> BlueEagle: mount says it's alreasdy mounted
[04:10] <TLE> If I download the source-code for a Ubuntu package, say metacity, patch it, compile and make .deb's, then will these .deb's have all the dependencies of the original package and will other people be able to install these packages on their system ?
[04:10] <BlueEagle> ubuntubantu: have you attempted to: sudo umount /dev/sde1 ?
[04:10] <Deanodriver> when i try to list files within a directory with ls, sometimes I get cannot access:permission denied, even if i'm root user
[04:10] <UbuntuBantu> let me try adding one of the srives to fstab and see what happens if I reboot
[04:10] <botch> is DRM somehow influenced by the framebuffer devices?
[04:10] <BoBAV_3x> Im Bob (ROberto) from Italy, i have a simple question for you.
[04:11] <sharperguy> ill try soundkonverter becuase if says wma
[04:11] <UbuntuBantu> i have attempted to unmount, it doesn't
[04:11] <sharperguy> not that i like using qt apps in gnome becuae it slows stuff down
[04:11] <BlueEagle> ubuntubantu: does it give an error message?
[04:11] <cobrat> Anyone here have experience with running boinc on PPC ubuntu?
[04:12] <sharperguy> lol, i meant to type dwon as sarcasm but it came out down
[04:12] <sharperguy> the way its meant to be
[04:12] <Deanodriver> it's a real pain not being able to read these files...
[04:12] <Flamekebab> Does anyone know which packages are required to get Suspend up and running on Toshiba Portege laptops?
[04:12] <BoBAV_3x> i've installed ubuntu 64 on my iEMT64 on a U-ATA disk but if i add a S-ATA disk the system don't start
[04:12] <UbuntuBantu> BlueEagle: nothing at all
[04:12] <williswatson> ~~Is there Someone call tell me         reiserfs    VS    ext3   which better?????????????
[04:12] <Dreamglider> can anyone help me, i have a X-Micro USB WLAN Adapter, i want it to work in Ubuntu. i need it at school.
[04:12] <BlueEagle> ubuntubantu: I see. Then try: sudo umount -l /dev/sde1
[04:13] <magus_x> williswatson, : my personal choice is reiserfs
[04:13] <BlueEagle> ubuntubantu: then mount it where you want it.
[04:13] <BoBAV_3x> i've a problem using ubuntu on disk S-ATA e U-ATA together
[04:13] <williswatson> magus_x   fast ????
[04:13] <magus_x> yup
[04:13] <TLE> williswatson: Different abilities, dependes on what you mean by better? Stable, fast ?
[04:13] <BoBAV_3x> anyone have a suggestion?
[04:14] <saiko> i have booted into ubuntu live cd, need to format an ntfs drive (automounted already) how can i do that ?
[04:14] <UbuntuBantu> BlueEagle: I've managed to unmount them
[04:14] <williswatson> magus_x   fast~~~~
[04:14] <UbuntuBantu> let me try to mount one
[04:14] <Gassed> Can I have two mice in Ubuntu?
[04:14] <BoBAV_3x> why my ubuntu freeze "whaiting for root..." when i use a S-ATA disk???
[04:14] <BlueEagle> williswatson: Quality is a subjective matter. Both filesystems are journaled and I have yet to notice any big difference in speed. However I have heard of (been a while since I last heard it now tho) people having had their reiserfs system completely corrupted.
[04:15] <BoBAV_3x> please query me if anyone have suggestions for my problem
[04:15] <sharperguy> ok soundkonverter is giving me errors
[04:15] <sethk> BlueEagle, yes, stay away from reiserfs
[04:15] <BoBAV_3x> freeze on starting if i use a S-ATA disk
[04:15] <Gassed> How can I use a USB mouse and a serial mouse at the same time?
[04:15] <saiko> any help ? please, this is critical for the moment, sigh
[04:15] <magus_x> williswatson, : for me it is fast, ask someone who have more experience
[04:15] <sethk> BoBAV_3x, that's a recuring kernel problem, not specifically a ubuntu issue
[04:16] <BoBAV_3x> uhm...
[04:16] <williswatson> magus_x     thanx
[04:16] <BoBAV_3x> recuring?
[04:16] <afflux> re...
[04:16] <sethk> BoBAV_3x, been there through several kernel releases
[04:16] <BlueEagle> sethk: I've used reiserfs for more than two years and I've yet to experience any trouble with it.
[04:16] <dr_willis> Gassed,  you could make 2 entries for them in the xorg.conf
[04:16] <UbuntuBantu> BlueEagle: mount: /dev/sdc1 already mounted or /media/windows/ busy mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdc1 is mounted on /tmp/disks-conf-sdc1
[04:16] <BlueEagle> sethk: I am incliened to guessing stupid user caused the corruption. :)
[04:16] <UbuntuBantu> aargh :(
[04:17] <sethk> BlueEagle, that is irrelevant.  Because the other file systems are more stable, and reiser has no performance improvement (regardless of the author's claims)
[04:17] <BlueEagle> ubuntubantu: Ok, Try adding the device to fstab and reboot
[04:17] <Gassed> dr_willis: Care to tell me how?
[04:17] <sethk> BlueEagle, no, definitely not.  reiser has serious problems.
[04:17] <UbuntuBantu> BlueEagle: ok
[04:17] <Deanodriver> when i try to list files within a directory with ls, sometimes I get cannot access:permission denied, even if i'm root user
[04:17] <OoberMick> Gassed: it should just work if you use /dev/input/mice
[04:17] <Gassed> kk
[04:17] <BoBAV_3x> what i have to do now ?
[04:18] <dr_willis> Gassed,  check out the xorg.conf, and check on the docs for it. and do some manual editing. you will need to copy the mouse input device stanza, and change the device to /dev/SOMTHING for your mouse. and I think ya may also need to edit the serverlayout entry to include the 2nd mouse
[04:18] <williswatson> magus_x   could I  convert the ext3  to reiserf    without lost any   data???
[04:18] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: Which command did you execute in your attempt to list the file?
[04:18] <Deanodriver> just ls
[04:18] <BoBAV_3x> sethk: what i have to do now to solve my problem ???
[04:18] <magus_x> williswatson, : i dont know, i dont think so
[04:18] <dr_willis> Gassed,  for a SERIAL mouse - im not sure if  just using /dev/input/mice will work. but that would be a quicker change.
[04:18] <Deanodriver> tried ls -l to
[04:18] <sethk> BoBAV_3x, which sata chipset do you have?
[04:18] <BoBAV_3x> wait
[04:18] <Gassed> dr_willis: Where is xorg.conf
[04:19] <williswatson> magus_x   must   be formatted ???
[04:19] <Deanodriver> *too
[04:19] <sethk> Deanodriver, you need x privilege on the directory (which means search)
[04:19] <dr_willis> Gassed,  i can see you got a LONG road ahead of you. :P   - /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:19] <cTr_> hola
[04:19] <cTr_> alguien de espaa?
[04:19] <cTr_> 
[04:19] <sethk> Deanodriver, root allows you to change permissions, but it does not allow you to do something for which you don't have permission
[04:19] <BlueEagle> williswatson: Sethk claims that there are no performance gains to be had usign reiserfs but that the risks of data corruption are real. So my advice is to use ext3.
[04:19] <t4dyce> cups is not accepting my user login and root login.  What login should I use?
[04:19] <Deanodriver> ok
[04:19] <BoBAV_3x> sethk: i think i've VIA chipset
[04:20] <Deanodriver> but can't you change permissions so you can do it?
[04:20] <sethk> Deanodriver, yes
[04:20] <sethk> Deanodriver, which is why I mentioned that you need x permission on the directory
[04:20] <BoBAV_3x> sethk: i think i've VIA chipset
[04:20] <Deanodriver> but all other files in the directory work fine
[04:20] <Spartacus_UO> hey
[04:20] <OoberMick> wc
[04:20] <Spartacus_UO> how do i order a ubuntu CD ?
[04:20] <BlueEagle> t4dyce: gnome-cups-manager
[04:21] <sethk> BoBAV_3x, I would try the most recent kernel from kernel.org.  Of course, there is a down side to that, but as far as I know it's your only option.
[04:21] <Gassed> "Protocol"		"ImPS/2" <-- What do I put for serial mouse?
[04:21] <BlueEagle> t4dyce: ie. the web interface of cups (localhost:someport) is disabled by default I guess.
[04:21] <williswatson> BlueEagle  do  u use the reiserfs  and corruption????
[04:21] <saiko> so to format an ntfs drive i figured i need to use gparted, but when i try to do so, there's an error claiming that that's an read-only filesystem
[04:21] <sethk> BoBAV_3x, and it isn't guaranteed to work, so back up your /boot and /usr/src and /etc directories in case you have to back it out.
[04:21] <saiko> any help ?
[04:21] <Phirax> does anyone know how to get vlc player fullscreen?
[04:21] <Deanodriver> what if the directory has x permission?
[04:21] <BlueEagle> t4dyce: I think I've read that somwhere
[04:21] <Deanodriver> and still doesn't work
[04:22] <BoBAV_3x> ok thanks saiko
[04:22] <sethk> saiko, you don't create the ntfs file system from linux
[04:22] <dr_willis> Gassed,  you refering to a round plug 'ps2' mouse? or a VERY old 9 pin serial mouse?
[04:22] <BoBAV_3x> ehm..
[04:22] <sethk> Deanodriver, the message you get is, exactly, what?
[04:22] <saiko> sethk: i need to format it
[04:22] <BoBAV_3x> excuse thanks <sethk>
[04:22] <andrew___`> does anyone know a good, dvd player?
[04:22] <BoBAV_3x> sorry, thanks <sethk>
[04:22] <Gassed> dr_willis: 9-Pin Serial
[04:22] <cornell_newbie> Hi... used to Mandrake, trying ubuntu...  I don't suppose there's a newbie channel, for simple questions ?
[04:22] <sethk> saiko, yes, you do that from windows
[04:22] <BlueEagle> williswatson: I've used reiserfs for more than two years and I have yet to experience data corruption. However I have got complete faith in Sethk so I base my recomendation on his statement. Ext3 is better than Reiserfs when it comes to reliabillity.
[04:22] <Deanodriver> cannot access `filename': Permission denied
[04:22] <Deanodriver> when i try to ls
[04:22] <Deanodriver> or chmod
[04:22] <Deanodriver> or do virtually anything
[04:23] <saiko> sethk: there is no windows option for me now
[04:23] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: and how have you gained root privileges?
[04:23] <Deanodriver> sudo :)
[04:23] <dr_willis> Gassed,  egads man. :) i aint seen one of those in proberly 7+ years.      Im not even sure what to use for  protocal. could try 'auto'  or 'ps/2'
[04:23] <sethk> saiko, then why do you want an ntfs file system?
[04:23] <Deanodriver> and tried sudo su as well
[04:23] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: so you're running: sudo chmod MODE filename
[04:23] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: ?
[04:23] <saiko> sethk: hard to explain at the moment but would be nice if i could just format it
[04:23] <sethk> Deanodriver, you tried sudo chmod and get access denied?
[04:23] <Deanodriver> tried that
[04:23] <Deanodriver> yes
[04:24] <saiko> sethk: is there any way to format ntfs hdd under ubuntu/linux ?
[04:24] <sethk> saiko, I don't know of any way to do that short of loading up windows.  since ntfs would be read only in linux, I can't imagine any reason to create an ntfs file system in linux.
[04:24] <Gassed> do I have to reboot to make the changes or can I restart X?
[04:24] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: and which file are we talking about here? (complete path please)
[04:24] <sethk> saiko, but, regardless of whether there is a reason, as far as I know there is no way to do it.
[04:24] <orhthoth1o> Gassed: ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:24] <Gassed> kk
[04:24] <saiko> sethk: so there is no way to format an ntfs filesystem under linux ?
[04:24] <saiko> sethk: i don't need to create one
[04:25] <Aar0n> Hello ther
[04:25] <Deanodriver> BlueEagle, just some stuff on one of my files drives
[04:25] <sethk> Deanodriver, as BlueEagle suggests, show us the exact command and exact response.
[04:25] <saiko> sethk: just format it and for now that's the only reason ..
[04:25] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: and which filesystem is on that partition?
[04:25] <Deanodriver> reiser on all
[04:25] <sethk> saiko, you are getting confused.  creating an ntfs partition, actually, you could do.  formatting it is windows bizarre terminology
[04:25] <Aar0n> I am trying to install ndiswrapper and I run "make distclean" and it says something like "bash: unrecognised  command" how can I fix this please?
[04:25] <williswatson> BlueEagle   how many times  you experience the data corruption int that 2years?
[04:25] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: and when I ask for the complete path why on earth do you not give it?
[04:25] <Deanodriver> dean@maggie:/files2/Futurama/Season 2$ sudo chmod 777 *
[04:25] <Deanodriver> chmod: cannot access `203 - When Aliens Attackk.avi': Permission denied
[04:25] <sethk> saiko, in unix, you create a file system with mkfs.  windows incorrectly calls this "formatting"
[04:25] <beesandflowers> hello all. is there a difference between having accessed a w2k3 share in nautilus and mount it with that command? i can access all files without any problems, but from within an application i cannot use the file/open dialogue as it does not offer me the possibility to browse the volumes that i can easily access in nautilus
[04:26] <sethk> saiko, now, you can create a partition, but you can't create an ntfs file system on that partition
[04:26] <Deanodriver> copying everything from one hard drive to another
[04:26] <BlueEagle> williswatson: I have not experienced data corruption as of yet. However I hear people calling me lucky so I guess I am.
[04:26] <sethk> beesandflowers, sounds like a permissions issue
[04:26] <beesandflowers> so i wonder, do i need to use the mount command to get that share in my /mnt directory?
[04:26] <BlueEagle> williswatson: Why do you even care? If you want a stable system use ext3. If you want something where you may or may not end up with corrupted partitions use reiserfs.
[04:26] <saiko> sethk: so i should use mkfs and try to create, say fat32 ?
[04:26] <saiko> sethk: will it work ?
[04:26] <BlueEagle> williswatson: You won't notice any difference in speed.
[04:26] <sethk> saiko, you can do mkfs.vfat, yes
[04:27] <tengil> how do i configure oidentd so that boxes on the nat also get an ident response?
[04:27] <sethk> saiko, I don't recommend that either, but as far as I know, it does work.
[04:27] <williswatson> BlueEagle   i will make it a try ,thanx
[04:27] <like_zh1> do anybody here ever have your system crashed when switching from tty to X? I have AIGLX running on my laptop.
[04:27] <beesandflowers> sethk: but i can access all files. in places under nautilus i accessed my server, accessed all files, no problem. but there is nothing in the /mnt directory and i simply would lik eto use the file/open command in applications to open my files.
[04:27] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: and which filesystem is on the partition that is mounted on /files2 ?
[04:27] <saiko> sethk: ok, thank you for now
[04:27] <Deanodriver> reiserfs
[04:27] <sethk> beesandflowers, /mnt is no different from any other directory name
[04:28] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: Thank you. Now that wasn't so hard now, was it?
[04:28] <Spartacus_UO> sethk
[04:28] <pulani> erm, does anyone know how to dual boot linux and winxp when you install winxp second? I assume winxp is going to break my boot loader ;d
[04:28] <saiko> sethk: will try to make something work, sigh, thanks again for your help
[04:28] <sethk> beesandflowers, what I'm thinking, perhaps, is that nautilus and the application have different effective user ids
[04:28] <Deanodriver> all partitions on the machine in question are reiserfs
[04:28] <Deanodriver> BlueEagle, no probs, sorry, it's a bit late here, and i'm kinda tired :)
[04:28] <sethk> saiko, I think the odds are good that mkfs.vfat will work for you.
[04:29] <Deanodriver> just trying to finish something before bed
[04:29] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: Now which flags are you using when mounting /files2?
[04:29] <Deanodriver> defaults
[04:29] <Aar0n> I am using a fresh install of ubuntu and trying to install ndis wrapper. I run the command "make distclean" but it gives an error like "bash: unrecognised command" how can I fix this please?
[04:29] <williswatson> Deanodriver   you use the reiserfs????
[04:30] <Deanodriver> /dev/hdd1       /files2         reiserfs        defaults        0       0
[04:30] <Deanodriver> that's from fstab
[04:30] <AnAnt> which is better language to write documentation ? LaTeX or XML/XSLT ?
[04:30] <Dreamglider> saiko,  reboot needed.
[04:30] <williswatson> Deanodriver   do u think the reiserfs is faster than ext3
[04:31] <Deanodriver> i just use reiser, don't really see much of a difference, really
[04:31] <Flamekebab> Does anyone know which packages are required to get Suspend up and running on Toshiba Portege laptops?
[04:32] <DralaFi> just as long as it's not reiser4 :)
[04:32] <RalleAb> !mp3
[04:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:32] <dr_willis> Flamekebab,  a lot of it depends on the exact make/modle of laptop and its chipset.
[04:32] <dr_willis> Flamekebab,  and if it even works or not.
[04:32] <beesandflowers> sethk: i think i am not properly explaining myself (or i do not understand you). after my ubuntu installation i used the "places" menu in my ubuntu panel to add access to some shares on the server. using nautilus i can access all files as the shares appear on the left panel. so file access is not my problem. but when i use openoffice and the file/open command, then that sharenames are not...
[04:32] <beesandflowers> ...appearing. so therefore i wonder, do i need to use a mount command to mount those shares so that they appear in the local directory structure (my ubuntu directory structure) under that /mnt subdirectory?
[04:32] <Flamekebab> dr_willis, it does work! I had it working earlier
[04:32] <Flamekebab> hehe
[04:32] <Flamekebab> but then I installed powersaved, which broke it. Uninstalling it fixed the problem
[04:33] <Flamekebab> someone then recommended I try powernowd
[04:33] <Flamekebab> but that broke it again
[04:33] <dr_willis> Flamekebab,  thats a good sign then.
[04:33] <dr_willis> :)
[04:33] <Flamekebab> and then uninstalling powernowd didn't fix it
[04:33] <dr_willis> heh.. 'when in doubt dont mess with somthing that works'
[04:33] <frying_fish> pulani: if no-one else has answered you question look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:33] <dr_willis> :P
[04:33] <Flamekebab> dr_willis, learnt that the hard way!
[04:33] <Flamekebab> so now I'm trying to figure out what powernowd might have uninstalled
[04:34] <Deanodriver> BlueEagle, i've just got defaults set in the options on my fstab
[04:34] <sloof3> During an Ubuntu server install I can still set up a dual boot?
[04:34] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: Weird.
[04:34] <Deanodriver> tell me about it
[04:34] <dr_willis> sloof3,  yes.
[04:34] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: try: sudo -i
[04:34] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: that should give you a root shell
[04:34] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: then try the chmod again.
[04:35] <sloof3> dr_willis: Will it be automatic like with the deskrop installation?
[04:35] <Deanodriver> thanks
[04:35] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: if that doesn't work then try the chmod on the parent and then the parent and then the parent until it works
[04:35] <dr_willis> sloof3,  should be. it may ask a few more questions
[04:35] <sethk> sloof3, yes, grub should autoconfigure the same way on the server installation
[04:35] <Deanodriver> thing is, other files in the directory work fine
[04:35] <sloof3> dr_willis: sethk Thanks
[04:36] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: I beg your pardon?
[04:36] <Deanodriver> in the directory where the problematic files are, other files in the directory don't have said problem
[04:36] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: and what is the name of the file that is causing the problem again?
[04:37] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: or names (use pastebin if there's a lot of them)
[04:37] <Deanodriver> BlueEagle, check the dialog window :)
[04:37] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: which dialog window?
[04:38] <Deanodriver> oh
[04:38] <pulani> thx
[04:38] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: A) Don't message people w/o asking permission first and B) You need to register with nickserv to /msg people.
[04:38] <everton137> Hi, how can I block in Firefox, advertisings in Flash, like this one: http://www.cartacapital.com.br/index.php?funcao=exibirMateria&id_materia=3446 ?
[04:38] <Deanodriver> ok
[04:38] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: and don't flood me with a list of files please.
[04:38] <Deanodriver> ok
[04:39] <BlueEagle> !pastebin
[04:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:39] <Deanodriver> why are you interested in filenames?
[04:39] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: Because they may or may not be legal.
[04:39] <Deanodriver> ls
[04:39] <Deanodriver> ok
[04:39] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: and I only need to know about those whose mode you want to change.
[04:39] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: Well actually you can put the `ls -l` on pastebin
[04:39] <Deanodriver> ok
[04:40] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: that will give us something to compare with
[04:40] <Deanodriver> stuff it, i'll just delete them
[04:40] <Deanodriver> they're unimportant files anyway
[04:40] <pulani> is there any other way to adjust your mouse sensitivty and acceleration besides the Mouse Preferences? When i slide the accel all the down, the mouse is as a brick even with the sensitivity put to the max
[04:40] <Deanodriver> too much effort at 1am :)
[04:40] <DrFinn> need help with this: my login screen resolution is like 1280x1024x60 hz ! The default desktop resolution is 1024x768x85 Hz ..how do I change the login screen resolution to 1024x768x85hz ?
[04:40] <magus_x> i can upgrade my breezy with dapper without losing my files?
[04:40] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: quitter. :p
[04:41] <Deanodriver> ah well
[04:41] <jrib> magus_x: yes, you should be able to.  But you should have backups anyway just in case
[04:41] <halorgium> magus_x: change the sources then do a apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:41] <jrib> !upgrade > magus_x
[04:41] <Deanodriver> probly something dodgy with the hdd anyway
[04:41] <magus_x> halorgium, : how big it is you know?
[04:41] <BlueEagle> drfinn: remove all entries for 1280x1024 in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[04:41] <Deanodriver> it's had a hard life
[04:42] <BlueEagle> deanodriver: no point in making it any harder.
[04:42] <DrFinn> the max resolution I found in xorg.conf is 1024x768
[04:42] <stefg> DrFinn: if you don't need the 1280 res, the easiesst way would be to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and disable the checkmarks for the higher resolutions in the process
[04:43] <stefg> DrFinn: your monitor ist telling the Xserver by DPMS that it can handle 1280...
[04:44] <snorp|out> dudes.
[04:44] <Aar0n> I am using a fresh install of ubuntu and trying to install ndis wrapper. I run the command "make distclean" but it gives an error like "bash: makenot found" how can I fix this please?
[04:44] <sethk> DrFinn, when X decides that there is nothing usable in xorg.conf, it falls back to a list of standard resolution/vertical freq settings.
[04:44] <Deanodriver> i'd better get to bed, i think
[04:44] <snorp|out> apache2ctl -t
[04:44] <snorp|out> Syntax error on line 2 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dav_svn.load:
[04:44] <snorp|out> Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so into server: /usr/lib/libsvn_fs_base-1.so.0: undefined symbol:
[04:44] <Deanodriver> thanks for the help anyway :)
[04:44] <jpozlovsky> hi all
[04:44] <snorp|out> anyone seen that?
[04:44] <snorp> I'm on dapper
[04:44] <sethk> snorp|out, use ldd to find out what the symbol is.
[04:45] <snorp> sethk: ldd doesn't bitch
[04:45] <snorp> sethk: does ldd find unresolved symbols?
[04:45] <frank_b> I've just installed the xmms-mplayer plugin to be able to see videos on xmms using mplayer, but am not able to do so. do I have to configure anything?
[04:45] <snorp> or just unresolved libs?
[04:45] <lkz> Hi, how do I configure the mouse buttons in gnome? I'm trying to disable the paste feature of the middle (wheel) button
[04:46] <jpozlovsky> Question: I have USB Bluetooth dongle connected to my notebook. Is here any possibility how to turn it completely off (but letting it physically connected to computer ;))? Thanks
[04:47] <sethk> snoops, yes
[04:47] <sethk> snoops, sorry
[04:47] <sethk> snorp, yes
[04:47] <BlueEagle> Answer: You can stop the bluez-utils to make bluetooth unavailible.
[04:47] <BlueEagle> I think
[04:48] <sethk> snorp, I believe ldd -r will show symbols.  in general, ldd lists libraries, not symbols.
[04:48] <sethk> snorp, I need to check, however.  ldd on Solaris definitely lists undefined symbols, but ldd in linux is a totally different program and may behave differently.
[04:48] <jpozlovsky> BlueEagle: thanks for reply. Will try this
[04:48] <snorp> sethk: aha
[04:48] <snorp> sethk: ap_filter_flush
[04:48] <snorp> and a bunch of other ap_* functions
[04:49] <sethk> snorp, ok, and what program is this, again?
[04:49] <snorp> sethk: it's the svn module
[04:49] <snorp> for apache
[04:49] <snorp> it worked up until recently
[04:49] <snorp> I think there was an apache update, no?
[04:49] <sethk> snorp, that really sounds like mixed up libraries.
[04:49] <snorp> hmm
[04:49] <sethk> snorp, possibly the apache update requires an svn update
[04:50] <snorp> apt says everything is updated :/
[04:50] <sethk> snorp, or, perhaps svn isn't yet available for the apache update
[04:50] <sethk> snorp, I would back out the apache update.
[04:50] <sethk> snorp, I never update something merely because an update is available.  In this case, though, you have a (relatively) easy way to back out the update.
[04:51] <jikanter> ks
[04:51] <snorp> sethk: ugh, backing it out didn't help
[04:52] <sethk> snorp, that's very odd.  Let me check on which library those functions are supposed to be in.  Although, I may get the answer "none" because I haven't updated.
[04:52] <sethk> snorp, possible the reverse, and we need to back out an svn update?
[04:52] <RockMusic> Anybody ever try burning the desktop live CD to a CDRW?
[04:52] <BlueEagle> snorp: It's a good thing you're not running a develotestruction server then. :)
[04:52] <Rygel> Hi
[04:53] <snorp> BlueEagle: oh I totally am :)
[04:53] <BlueEagle> snorp: ouch
[04:53] <snorp> BlueEagle: yeah.
[04:53] <snorp> BlueEagle: it's my linode
[04:53] <RockMusic> The cdrw won't boot, and I've tried it on two different computers.
[04:53] <BlueEagle> snorp: Well a good friend once recomended me to read thedailywtf and never do that sh*t. :)
[04:54] <snorp> BlueEagle: nod
[04:54] <snorp> I live life on the edge
[04:54] <snorp> <- Xtreme
[04:54] <Rygel> I have a problem with networking. On a neatly configured PC as a User Mode Linux Host, the Clients using Ubuntu always start their eth count by 2 - which is the logical continuation of the eth0, eth1... row of the host. This problem does not occur with other distros. Any ideas, someone?
[04:54] <packets> might someone point me to where I could better understand how to add a networked printer?
[04:54] <BlueEagle> snorp: And boy are you bleeding for it now. :p
[04:54] <Aar0n> How can I install make?
[04:54] <snorp> BlueEagle: yes.
[04:55] <BlueEagle> rockmusic: cdrws are often harder to read for ordinary cd-rom drives. Especially the older ones.
[04:55] <BlueEagle> rockmusic: Also: Did you burn the .iso file onto the disc as a file or did you burn the content of the .iso file to the disc?
[04:55] <RockMusic> I burned the content.
[04:55] <RockMusic> I burned as a CD image.
[04:56] <BlueEagle> rockmusic: Well then it might be that the cd-rom is unable to read it or that the machine is not set up to boot from a CD.
[04:56] <tarzeau> anyone play http://bub-n-bros.sf.net #bub-n-bros with me?
[04:56] <BlueEagle> rockmusic: I assume you've checked the BIOS for that already so my advice is to burn it on a regular cdr. Preferably one with a blank base.
[04:57] <RockMusic> The Cd-rom can read it once booted into Windows, but I know that doesn't mean anything for a bootup.
[04:57] <sethk> RockMusic, cd-rw not booting is not an infrequent occurance.  burn a cd-r
[04:58] <RockMusic> Ok lol.
[04:58] <stray_77> rockmusic, check out smart boot manager floppy, itll let you boot cds that wont boot when they should
[04:58] <RockMusic> Where do I find smart manager floppy?
[04:58] <RockMusic> Never heard of it.
[04:59] <stray_77> This nifty little floppy bootdisk allows selecting various devices to boot from a menu, and even allows booting a CD-ROM in machines where the BIOS doesn't support it. If your BIOS supposedly supports booting from a CD-ROM, but that feature isn't working, this disk might be just what you need!
[04:59] <stray_77> http://linux.simple.be/tools/sbm
[04:59] <stray_77> it worked for me
[04:59] <RockMusic> Cool!
[05:00] <magus_x> cool
[05:01] <magus_x> and usefull
[05:01] <cyber3> hello everyone
[05:01] <botch> what does "couldn't find RGB GLX visual" mean?
[05:01] <cyber3> I have a cybercafe, and want to put some linux machines
[05:01] <cyber3> I choosed ubuntu
[05:01] <sethk> RockMusic, try stray_77 's suggestion
[05:01] <RockMusic> That's what I'm doing :)
[05:02] <cyber3> is there any way to block the desktop from a windows 2000 os..?
[05:02] <botch> Xorg.log sais: direct rendering enabled
[05:02] <sethk> cyber3, I'm not sure what you mean
[05:02] <corndog_> Anyone here can help with a dual monitor question? I'd like windows to load in a default monitor rather than spanned across the two.
[05:02] <botch> and libgl was loaded without errors
[05:02] <cyber3> I have a program that in certain time blocks the xp desktops
[05:02] <sethk> cyber3, you mean you want to lock the desktop after a timeout?
[05:03] <cyber3> yes
[05:03] <cyber3> from a win2k
[05:03] <sethk> cyber3, yes, you can do this.   you set it up in the screensaver configuration
[05:03] <sethk> cyber3, but what do you mean by "from a win2k"?
[05:03] <stray_77> hehe i was gonna ask that too
[05:04] <cyber3> I have a program that from a win2k locks the xp desktops..
[05:04] <kaot> botch: you try googling that error message?  I've found it's quicker to try that than to hope someone has come across it before.
[05:04] <cyber3> I don't know if this can be done from win2k to ubuntu
[05:04] <kaot> botch: your nick happens to be the name of one of the best bands evar, btw.
[05:04] <botch> kaot: i did, found a whole lot, but no answers
[05:04] <dr_willis> corndog_,  a lot of those desktop/monitior issues are related to the video card driver and window manager, and  if you are using twinview or xinerama
[05:05] <sethk> cyber3, you mean that you run a program on one win2k machine to lock desktops on other machines running xp?
[05:05] <botch> kaot: never heard about a band called botch
[05:05] <cyber3> yes
[05:05] <cyber3> can this be done tu ubuntu?
[05:05] <sethk> cyber3, I don't know of anything built in to do that.  It would be easy enough to write a program to do it.
[05:05] <kaot> botch: they're kind of obscure unless you're into hardcore/heavy/underground-ish stuff, but they're legendary in that scene.
[05:05] <corndog_> dr_willis: twinview, i was reading up and was hoping there was a xorg.conf change that could set a default monitor
[05:05] <corndog_> something about allowing windows to maximize per monitor
[05:06] <botch> kaot: http://www.myspace.com/botch
[05:06] <sethk> corndog_, that can be done with xinerama.  not sure about twinview
[05:06] <simplydazed> Is there a fix for running conky with XGL?
[05:06] <corndog_> ah, does this option seem familiar...
[05:06] <corndog_> Option         "NoTwinViewXineramaInfo"
[05:07] <lukus001_> I've just installed mencoder from the ubuntu reporsitory, and I get this in the consol. Exiting... (error parsing cmdline) -  Is this a bug or dodgy cammands?
[05:07] <kaot> botch: I'd check that out but I stay away from myspace under all circumstances  :\
[05:07] <dr_willis> lukus001_,  what are you running from the command line exactly?
[05:07] <choi2k> anybody know how to play wmv9 viedo under ubuntu?
[05:08] <sethk> corndog_, I don't know enough about twinview to have a useful opinion on that.  I used twinview for two days, then ditched it in favor of xinerama.
[05:08] <sethk> corndog_, for reasons that don't necessarily apply to you.
[05:08] <stefg> !restricted > choi2k
[05:08] <botch> kaot: there you can listen to botch
[05:08] <songo> how to chmod some files from ---------- to -rw-r--r-- ?
[05:08] <kaot> hehe
[05:08] <sethk> songo, chmod o+rw filename
[05:08] <sethk> songo, chmod a+r filename
[05:08] <toddobryan> I installed the ibmj2sdk package (because I'm on PPC) and now I get "JVM not found: libjvm.so" errors whenever I try to run Java.
[05:08] <madewokherd> chmod 644 filename
[05:08] <corndog_> sethk: gotcha, ill read up and decide if i should make the switch myself... is xinerama for nvidia and ati?
[05:08] <bkudria> what is the name of the bot?
[05:08] <dr_willis> twinview - is good for setting up a lot of things. it has some features not found in xinerama. of course it is also the nvidia-answer-to-xinerama :P
[05:08] <sethk> songo, sorry, u+r, not o+r
[05:09] <stefg> !ubotu
[05:09] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:09] <sethk> songo, sorry, u+rw, not o+rw
[05:09] <sethk> ugg
[05:09] <songo> :)
[05:09] <lukus001_> dr_willis mencoder input.avi -ovc raw -vf -o output.avi
[05:09] <madewokherd> come on, it's 644 :|
[05:09] <dragonkh> anyone know how to make the 7950gx2 run in twinview ?
[05:09] <bkudria> stefg: thanks
[05:09] <sethk> corndog_, xinerama is at the next level up, and doesn't rely on any low level driver behavior
[05:10] <sethk> corndog_, so xinerama can be used with any graphics card
[05:10] <songo> sethk, how can you tell it? what's the trick?
[05:10] <corndog_> ah ok, thanks
[05:10] <sethk> corndog_, well, any card that supports dual monitors.  :)
[05:10] <dr_willis> lukus001_,  sounds almost like its not liking the commandline. perhaps check out some examples. that looks 'normal to me. but ive not used it much
[05:10] <BMac2> I am having some permission errors with mysql trying to set up mythv
[05:10] <lukus001_> dr_willis okay, thanks
[05:10] <BMac2> cannot seem to connect to the database as the mythtv user
[05:10] <BlueEagle> cyber3: http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/Kiosk-HOWTO.html might be helpful
[05:10] <BMac2> if I go directly to mysql and log in as root
[05:10] <sethk> songo, you run that command.  for file /x/y,  you would do     chmod a+r /x/y; chmod u+rw /x/y
[05:10] <BMac2> I can see the tables
[05:10] <BeepAU> hey everyone, could someone please help me install cdemu? the instructions says it's simple, but i'm not up on alot of the terms. so, could someone please help me?
[05:11] <sethk> songo, you can use a list of filenames, so you don't need to do it for each file
[05:11] <sethk> songo, and you can do a directory and all files in the tree under that directory using chmod -R
[05:11] <BeepAU> dr_willis -- cd emu is a virtual drive, you can use it to read disc images and such.
[05:11] <BeepAU> !cdemu
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdemu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <BeepAU> dr_willis -- http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/
[05:12] <AltF4> Hey hey
[05:12] <AltF4> I need help,
[05:13] <songo> sethk, yes I know that. but how do you know that is u-rw or o+rw or o+r?
[05:13] <dr_willis> BeepAU,  and what part are ya having the issue with?
[05:13] <sethk> songo, oh,  the permissions are user, group, and other.   so u+rw means rw for user
[05:13] <AltF4> Go to I need help
[05:13] <sethk> songo, a means everyone, so chmod a+r  gives you ---r--r--r
[05:13] <BeepAU> dr_willis -- i've never complied anything before. i don't understand it.
[05:13] <AltF4> Go to http://pastebin.ca/140557
[05:13] <AltF4> Go to http://pastebin.ca/140557
[05:14] <AltF4> and tell me if the hardware is compat.
[05:14] <AltF4> please
[05:14] <dr_willis> BeepAU,  you will need to apt-get install the source for your kernel.. i forget the command for that. :) and install the build-essential package as well
[05:14] <SpComb> AltF4: grow up, please, no need to spam
[05:14] <dr_willis> !kernel
[05:14] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:14] <songo> sethk, ok tanx
[05:14] <AltF4> sorry, Palm Keyboard
[05:15] <BeepAU> dr_willis -- i've got the archive i downloaded from the site, isn't that enough? the stuff in apt-get can be quite old i hear.
[05:15] <dr_willis> BeepAU,  or ya could convert the bin/cue to an iso. then mount the thing like you would any other iso.
[05:15] <bkudria> is there an ndiswrapper howto?
[05:15] <dr_willis> BeepAU,  you need the source for the kernel you ARE RUNNING now. :)
[05:15] <dr_willis> BeepAU,  more up to date source. may not work right.
[05:16] <BeepAU> dr_willis -- i don't get you. i need the source for ubuntu?
[05:16] <dr_willis> the kernel source
[05:16] <AltF4> can someone please help!
[05:16] <BeepAU> dr_willis -- can you explain to me what that is?
[05:16] <sethk> AltF4, I see a memory module and a cd drive, so I'm completely confused about what you might be asking
[05:16] <dr_willis> you are making a driver/module that will use the kernel source. and every time ya update the kernel. you will need to recompile that module .
[05:16] <stefg> !ndsiwrapper
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndsiwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <stefg> !ndiswrapper
[05:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:16] <sethk> ndis, not ndsi
[05:16] <AltF4> sethk, I mean ae they compat as in run an OS
[05:17] <xanatos_> hello
[05:17] <dr_willis> BeepAU,  some 'modules'  to be compiled must have the kernel source for them to access/use as well. the verion of the source code. must match your currently running kernel, that you are making the module for.
[05:17] <wweasel> Hey all. I'd like to get Firefox to open .torrent files with uTorrent, a wine app. How could I get Firefox to Open With "wine /path/to/file/uTorrent.exe"
[05:17] <xanatos_> you know how I can install vmware??
[05:17] <xanatos_> some mirror?
[05:17] <bkudria> stefg: i looked: those all say: go to the system menu and then networking and enable your card
[05:17] <bkudria> stefg: they are no help
[05:17] <BeepAU> dr_willis -- ok, well how do i get the source for my kernel?
[05:17] <Aar0n> How can I install make on ubuntu?
[05:18] <sethk> AltF4, for the dvd writer, I would search the archives of the cdwrite mailing list
[05:18] <stefg> bkudria: so what exactly is you problem?
[05:18] <Clinton__> good morning (EDT people) - I'm having an issue with no sound on my flash, sound for all other applications work just fine - but not on the flash plugin with Firefox.  How can I fix this?
[05:18] <tarzeau> Aar0n: apt-get install make
[05:18] <dr_willis> !source
[05:18] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:18] <AltF4> sethk, chekc PM
[05:18] <dr_willis> Hmm.. i foreget how to get the kernel source.  some apt-get command.
[05:18] <Aar0n> tarzeau I don't have an internet connection on the laptop
[05:18] <untung> Hi, how can I mount FAT32 hardrive in ubuntu?
[05:18] <BeepAU> xanatos_ -- i just installed vmware, what problems are you having?
[05:18] <tarzeau> Aar0n: not my problem, is it? from cd?
[05:18] <xanatos_> with mount
[05:18] <Clinton__> untung: mount -t vfat [drive]  [mount-dir] 
[05:18] <SpComb> AltF4: only the mobo matters, really. Do a bit of googling on the subject
[05:19] <Aar0n> tarzeau: Is it on the ubuntu CD?
[05:19] <rummi1> has anyone here installed the mach64 drivers?
[05:19] <xanatos_> yes mount maybe type dev and mount point
[05:19] <etzerd> hello everyone
[05:19] <dr_willis> BeepAU,  its a lot easier to just convert the .cue/bin to iso. unless ya got a hunderd of the things.
[05:19] <tarzeau> Aar0n: no idea
[05:19] <SpComb> hmm, dunno about CDR and linux though, that might matter as well...
[05:19] <bkudria> stefg: i want to get my broadcom card working ...the bcm43xx drivers don't support my card
[05:19] <Aar0n> tarzeau: I have the tar of make 3.81 but I don't know how to install it
[05:19] <xanatos_> BeepAU -- I never install a vmware, you install by apt-get install or you downoad the tar file?
[05:20] <tarzeau> Aar0n: read the INSTALL file?
[05:20] <dr_willis> BeepAU,  bchunk binfile.bin cuefile.cue myisofile.iso    - after you install bchunk.
[05:20] <wweasel> Hey all. I'd like to get Firefox to open .torrent files with uTorrent, a wine app. How could I get Firefox to Open With "wine /path/to/file/uTorrent.exe"
[05:20] <untung> Clinton_: how can i see the drive letter?
[05:20] <Aar0n> Sorry for being so dumb tarzeau, thanks :-)
[05:20] <BeepAU> xanatos_ -- meh. i'd like to install the program. it's more convenient.
[05:20] <cyber3> is there a command to lock ubuntu gnome desktop from shell?
[05:20] <stefg> bkudria: so your best bet is to enter 'ubuntu' and ther model of your card into google and see what it spits out
[05:21] <Clinton__> untung: it isn't a drive letter under linux - it is of the type /dev/hda1 or /dev/hda2 or increase the numbers, or if it's a second HDD, it could be /dev/hdb1
[05:21] <BeepAU> dr_willis -- meh. i'd like to install the program. it's more convenient.
[05:21] <xanatos_> ho yea
[05:21] <Clinton__> good morning (EDT people) - I'm having an issue with no sound on my flash, sound for all other applications work just fine - but not on the flash plugin with Firefox.  How can I fix this?
[05:21] <BeepAU> xanatos_ -- disregard the last message. i got it from apt-get.
[05:21] <dr_willis> BeepAU,  ya got some work to do then. install the kernel source, and build-essential, then follow the guide.  someone in here will rember the right way tog et the source. or check the wiki/forums
[05:22] <bkudria> stefg: thanks
[05:22] <BeepAU> dr_willis -- ok then. well, it's late. i'll try it tomorrow.
[05:22] <stefg> Clinton__: you need to install alsaoss and add FIREFOX_DSP="aoss" in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[05:22] <xanatos_> I have to add a source in sources.list? because I did apt-cache search vmware but I never have a great result :X
[05:22] <xanatos_> jeje
[05:22] <Clinton__> stefg: thank you
[05:22] <nox-Hand> Where do I put the .config when making a new kernel? I have a .config I want to replace..
[05:23] <xanatos_> yes I belive you replace the .config file
[05:23] <richiefrich> Skaag kowl man
[05:23] <BeepAU> xanatos_ -- sudo apt-get install vmware-player
[05:23] <sethk> nox-Hand, copy in the .config to the root of the kernel source tree, then do    make oldconfig
[05:24] <richiefrich> nox-Hand u can use that
[05:24] <xanatos_> hoo, BeepAU :)
[05:24] <nox-Hand> richiefrich, Yeah, just didnt know where to put it :)
[05:24] <nox-Hand> thanks sethk :D
[05:24] <richiefrich> nox-Hand /usr/src/linux/.config
[05:25] <nox-Hand> richiefrich, Yeah, I figured that
[05:25] <believer_> As Salaam e laikum (meaning: May Peace b on u) . http://www.submission.org/ ... Your source for Islam (submission) on the internet.
[05:25] <richiefrich> ok then
[05:25] <believer_> [112:0]  In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
[05:25] <believer_> [112:1]  Proclaim, "He is the One and only GOD.
[05:25] <xanatos_> where I can find more mirrors to add in my sources.list??
[05:25] <believer_> [112:2]  "The Absolute GOD.
[05:25] <believer_> [112:3]  "Never did He beget. Nor was He begotten.
[05:25] <believer_> [112:4]  "None equals Him."
[05:25] <believer_> http://download.al-islaam.com/audiovideo/anasheedram/al-islaam/html/samtan/lastbreath.swf
[05:26] <stefg> !ops
[05:26] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[05:27] <marcelino> How do you lowercase file names?
[05:27] <jmelloy> so, here's the deal.
[05:27] <jmelloy> Trying to triple boot os x, ubuntu, and windows.
[05:27] <ompaul> marcelino, ehh do what with lower case?
[05:27] <jmelloy> yesterday, had os x and ubunut installed
[05:27] <wweasel> Could someone help me with getting firefox to open files with a specific command? "Open With" makes me choose a helper application. I want "wine /path/to/file/uTorrent.exe"
[05:28] <jmelloy> popped in the windows disc, pointed it at the appropriate partition, and it borked with a corrupt dll file.
[05:28] <marcelino> ompaul: i have files in a directory that have all uppercase names i want to convert them to all lowercase.
[05:28] <jmelloy> That suggests it's looking at the wrong partition, but now ubuntu isn't showing up in my boot menu.
[05:28] <stefg> wweasel: you need to write a script to do that
[05:28] <sethk> marcelino, use the \l  (lowercase) syntax in a sed regulard expression
[05:28] <Seveas> !windows
[05:28] <jmelloy> so I put in the live cd and am trying to figure out how to look at the various hard drive partitions to see if there's data there.
[05:28] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[05:28] <sethk> wweasel, I believe firefox uses the desktop settings, so look at your desktop file associations
[05:29] <wweasel> stefg: That seems elementary to you, but I've never written a script. How do I go about writing this?
[05:29] <ompaul> marcelino,  http://desktux.xs4all.nl/scripts/lowercase.php
[05:29] <Aar0n> I am trying to install make but it says something like "error no compatible C complier in $PATH"
[05:29] <cyber3> can I lock desktop from command line?
[05:29] <stefg> Seveas: utorrent is running (at last :-) ) with wine... a blessing in the absence of a good client for Linux :-)
[05:29] <bretzel> !synaptic
[05:29] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[05:29] <FurryNemesis> anyone know where I can find a downloadable manual for bash scripting?
[05:30] <marcelino> ompaul and sethk thanks!
[05:30] <sethk> cyber3, yes
[05:30] <cyber3> how ... :) ?
[05:30] <wweasel> sethk: System > Preferences > Preferred Applications only do Internet and E-Mail
[05:30] <Seveas> FurryNemesis, tldp.org, search for 'advanced bash scripting guide'
[05:30] <bretzel> uh... synaptic unusable anymore ? ( trapped with libvte4 error )
[05:30] <jmelloy> how do I look at sda4 from the live cd?
[05:30] <sethk> wweasel, I use kde, sorry
[05:30] <sethk> jmelloy, depends on what type of partition it is
[05:31] <nakkoo> hola
[05:31] <wweasel> sethk: Alright. Hmmm...well, where's the GNOME people? :P
[05:31] <cyber3> sethk Do you what command to use..?
[05:31] <jmelloy> well, it's on a macbook.
[05:31] <Aar0n> I am trying to install make but it says something like "error no compatible C complier in $PATH" any ideas???
[05:31] <jmelloy> iti should be ext3
[05:31] <cyber3> hola nakkoo
[05:31] <jmelloy> unless windows decided to kill it
[05:31] <sethk> cyber3, I'll look.  I know it's possible, although I haven't done it for a few months
[05:31] <jmelloy> which is what I want to check
[05:31] <xanatos_> jmelloy what, do you like to see the information in the sda4 with a live cd?
[05:31] <stefg> wweasel: you have to make yourself familiar with some concepts, like passing parameters and so on... have a read at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[05:31] <sethk> jmelloy, try this:    file /dev/sda4
[05:31] <LudwigVanHatten> hello
[05:32] <cyber3> if you find it please let me know.. cybercronos@hotmail.com
[05:32] <LudwigVanHatten> looking for an application like "autoroute" in Windows
[05:32] <xanatos_> jmelloy only mount the partition
[05:32] <cyber3> thanks sethk..?
[05:32] <digitalhav0c> im having a problem with ubuntu on my laptop everytime i unplug from ac the laptop goes into suspend or something like that and i have to reboot to get back in?
[05:32] <bretzel> uh... synaptic unusable anymore ? ( trapped with libvte4 error )
[05:32] <jmelloy> mount /dev/sda4 ?
[05:32] <digitalhav0c> anyone got and suggestions?
[05:32] <jmelloy> "block special (8/4)"
[05:32] <wweasel> stefg: whoa, you sent me to a 14 chapter document. I just need a script that passes "wine /path/to/file/uTorrent.exe"
[05:32] <FurryNemesis> bretzel, fix in forums
[05:32] <nakkoo> hi I get this problem that says that I can't connect with my modem because /etc/resolv.conf doesnt exist or does't have the proper permissions
[05:32] <cyber3> sethk cybercronos@hotmail.com if you find how.. thanks..
[05:33] <JamieBE> is there a "tree" terminal equivelant like the DOS one?
[05:33] <xanatos_> jemlloy yes, you want int to partition sda4 or what do you want to do
[05:33] <FurryNemesis> ty Seveas
[05:33] <sethk> cyber3, you use the xlib function XLockDisplay and XUnlockDisplay
[05:33] <bretzel> FurryNemesis: thanks, ...
[05:33] <FurryNemesis> np
[05:33] <xanatos_> nakkoo create the resolve.conf
[05:33] <nakkoo> well I can connect the modem, start it and then it says 'connection to ...' for ever... is that related to /etc/resolv.conf
[05:33] <sethk> cyber3, if you have X dev packages installed, do   man XLockDisplay
[05:33] <BlueEagle> wweasel: I'm sorry I just got in. Why do you want to run the windows uTorrent.exe?
[05:33] <jmelloy> it's not in fstab or mtab
[05:33] <cyber3> I dont know really.. I am new in linux
[05:33] <stefg> wweasel: and i still think you should learn scripting :-) instead of having me just chewing the stuff before you (freely translated from german :-) )
[05:33] <nakkoo> xanatos_ I think its already created
[05:34] <cyber3> I know that I have ubuntu and gnome installed..
[05:34] <wweasel> stefg: An english expression is "spoon feeding"
[05:34] <cyber3> I dont know about details yet.. :)
[05:34] <xanatos_> nakkoo then make chmod 644 resolve.conf
[05:34] <JamieBE> Does anyone know how I can safely mount an external NTFS USB drive within Ubuntu as writable?
[05:34] <digitalhav0c> cyber3 apt-get install azuerus
[05:34] <bretzel> ...and another thing: dosemu unusable also -- not found in forums ...
[05:34] <wweasel> BlueEagle: np. I already am running uTorrent.exe under wine. I'd like to set firefox to open .torrent files with "wine /path/to/file/utorrent.exe"
[05:34] <nakkoo> xanatos_ thanks I will try this
[05:34] <digitalhav0c> god torrent client
[05:34] <pekay> Hi, I recently installed on my Kubuntu installation GNOME, and want to switch back to KDM instead of using GDM, can I do this?
[05:34] <cyber3> what is azuerus for..?
[05:34] <digitalhav0c> torrents
[05:35] <cyber3> ok
[05:35] <jmelloy> or transmission
[05:35] <stefg> wweasel: but it's easy... three lines, no conditionals.. if you know DOS-Batches you can do it
[05:35] <BlueEagle> wweasel: sounds like something out of rubegoldber.com tbh. :)
[05:35] <cyber3> I have asuerus already
[05:35] <cyber3> it is installed
[05:35] <digitalhav0c> so why  are you trying to install utorrent?
[05:35] <cyber3> no..
[05:35] <richiefrich> cyber3 azuerus is for torrents
[05:35] <cyber3> my question is..
[05:36] <digitalhav0c> go ahead
[05:36] <sethk> cyber3, are you asking about what I said about X dev packages?
[05:36] <cyber3> is there a way to lock gnome desktop from command line?
[05:36] <wweasel> Well, it seems like more work than installing Azureus. But it's a much better client in my opinion, and the opinion of many others.
[05:36] <sethk> cyber3, it's at the X level, not the gnome level
[05:36] <adminx> Hey, found a extention for Firefox that adds Ubuntu Forums as a Firefox menu item. Here is the link:
[05:36] <adminx> https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2302/
[05:36] <cyber3> ok
[05:36] <richiefrich> cyber3 u can lock it yes. use xscreensaver
[05:36] <sethk> cyber3, and you do it with a call to XLockDisplay.  The documentation for XLockDisplay is  in the X dev packages
[05:36] <jmelloy> I like azureus, but it can be a resource hog.  It gives by far the best information about the state of the torrent
[05:36] <cyber3> ok.. thanks sethk
[05:37] <pekay> how can I change login managers?
[05:37] <cyber3> I will read about it..
[05:37] <richiefrich> information means nothing itk's the speed at which they come in at
[05:37] <wweasel> jmelloy: It's probably been a while since you've used Windows? uTorrent is an excellent alternative to Azureus, but it is 1 mb filesize, and it's resource utilization is very low.
[05:37] <sethk> cyber3, if you run synaptic, and, in the search dialog, enter    x   dev     (that is, x, space, dev)  you'll get packages with both x and dev in the name
[05:37] <jmelloy> I practically never use windows.
[05:37] <richiefrich> pekay install a another one and what are u using now ?  gdm ?
[05:37] <cyber3> ok
[05:37] <jmelloy> Except at work, where they dont' encourage a lot of torrenting.
[05:37] <wweasel> jmelloy: There ya go. But it runs perfectly under Wine.
[05:38] <snoops> umm.. not sure if this is the right place to ask - if wrong, could I be redirected? Anyway I'm very keen to write a very lightweight bot for irc - just allowing me to do a few simple thngs, so wondering if there are some guides on that. I think I'd like to either code it in ruby or python, so really I guess what're my options?
[05:38] <digitalhav0c> yeah jmelloy
[05:38] <pekay> richiefrich: using GDM, installed Gnome on top of my Kubuntu, and switched somehow to using GDM =p, I wanna use KDM again
[05:38] <richiefrich> wweasel  i must look at utorrent i use rtorrent atm
[05:38] <wweasel> snoops: wrong place to ask
[05:38] <sethk> cyber3, for the command that richiefrich told you, the packages is xscreensaver-gnome
[05:39] <wweasel> richiefrich: www.utorrent.com
[05:39] <nakkoo> xanatos_ is this already -rw-r--r
[05:39] <sethk> cyber3, that should pull in other required packages as dependencies
[05:39] <cyber3> ok
[05:39] <snoops> wweasel which leads to the second part of that question :P
[05:39] <lamego> snoops, http://python-irclib.sourceforge.net/
[05:39] <snoops> ah thanks lamego
[05:39] <nakkoo> xanatos_ is this already -rw-r--r-- chmod 644 ? Because that's what resolv.conf has before aplying chmod 644
[05:40] <lamego> nakkoo, it is
[05:40] <zerby> !xgl
[05:40] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:40] <richiefrich> pekay sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm  or sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[05:40] <wweasel> Ok, Firefox can open .torrent files with the "default application". Where do I modify the default application for .torrent files in Gnome? it's not Preferred Apps
[05:40] <nakkoo> lamego mmm... so what error can it be that I can't the modem started?
[05:40] <richiefrich> pekay or edit-->  sudo nano -w /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[05:40] <stefg> wweasel: so the trick is to tell firefox to 'open' the torrent-file with your script, which does nothing else than getting the file into /tmp and and starting wine with utorrent and pass the filename as a positional paramter
[05:40] <xanatos_> and now you can brouse
[05:40] <xanatos_> ??
[05:40] <lamego> wweasel, just use the "Open With" option on nautilus
[05:40] <pekay> richiefrich: thanks alot :] 
[05:40] <richiefrich> pekay np man
[05:40] <Spartacus_UO> wweaselrd driver and window manager, and  if you are using twinview or xinerama
[05:40] <Spartacus_UO> [12:04:56]  * Joins: songo (n=lamanary@85.138.62.161)
[05:40] <Spartacus_UO> [12:05:08]  <sethk> cyber3, you mean that you run a program on one win2k machine to lock desktops on other
[05:41] <wweasel> stefg: I haven't written a script.
[05:41] <nakkoo> xanatos_ it's on another computer that I have that error
[05:41] <richiefrich> sethk ill take note im so used to arch and gentoo.. :P  i just run xscreensaver in those..
[05:41] <xanatos_> hooom
[05:41] <richiefrich> wweasel ty
[05:41] <xanatos_> nakkoo maybe you can edit manually the resolv.conf
[05:42] <slytherin> Anyone here using blender on dapper? Mine crashes frequently
[05:42] <sethk> richiefrich, the same here, I was just providing the package names to install xscreensaver
[05:42] <xanatos_> vi /etc/resolv.conf
[05:42] <cyber3> well will be off a moment, i am going to install xscreensaver
[05:42] <richiefrich> sethk ahh... ok then
[05:42] <richiefrich> sethk so u to run gentoo ?
[05:42] <sethk> richiefrich, it might have a different name here, but I don't believe so.
[05:42] <digitalhav0c> how do i check which wireless network
[05:42] <stefg> wweasel: so this will be you first :-) You take an editor and start with typing '#!/bin/sh' (which is an acronym for '/b/efore /i/ /n/oticed, /s/h*t /h/appened )
[05:42] <digitalhav0c> im on through the command line?
[05:43] <nakkoo> xanatos_ what do you mean, like putting the ip and so on?
[05:43] <donrarib> hi everyone
[05:43] <sethk> richiefrich, I deal with some gentoo machines at work, but I don't allow any new gentoo installations
[05:43] <xanatos_> nakkoo yes
[05:43] <donrarib> i have a ubuntu breeze
[05:43] <xanatos_> maybe
[05:43] <richiefrich> sethk o.O  :(
[05:43] <nakkoo> xanatos_ mmm.. interesing
[05:43] <xanatos_> sometimes I did it :P
[05:43] <donrarib> and i put some mirrors on the update manager
[05:44] <donrarib> the mirrors are the brazil
[05:44] <xanatos_> and it's all :D
[05:44] <sethk> richiefrich, I checked, and, yes, the xscreensaver utility, /usr/bin/xscreensaver, is part of the package "xscreensaver"
[05:44] <richiefrich> kowl
[05:44] <sethk> richiefrich, and xscreensaver is a dependency of xscreensaver-gnome
[05:44] <kings> hi
[05:44] <donrarib> but now, the window of update manager close instantle
[05:45] <dragonkh> hi
[05:45] <DeNiaL> hi all
[05:45] <DeNiaL> someone has compiz on amd 64 running ?
[05:45] <donrarib> what i had wrong?
[05:45] <wweasel> stefg: So, if I get it, my script will have "#! /bin/sh" on the first line and "wine /path/to/file/uTorrent.exe" on the second
[05:45] <digitalhav0c> anyone can tell me a lighter torrent client other than ktorrent ?
[05:46] <digitalhav0c> im trying to find something to replace azureus
[05:46] <Number_5> bittornado
[05:46] <digitalhav0c> java ewww
[05:46] <donrarib> and i need update my breeze for dapper
[05:46] <digitalhav0c> that supports multiple torrent and resume
[05:46] <wweasel> digitalhav0c: I am using uTorrent in WINE.
[05:46] <ozma> is there a torrent client like utorrent for ubuntu?
[05:46] <slytherin> anyone using blender here?
[05:46] <digitalhav0c> wweasel really
[05:46] <donrarib> but the update manager dont aswer
[05:46] <wweasel> ozma: uTorrent + Wine = uTorrent for Linux.
[05:46] <digitalhav0c> lol
[05:46] <sethk> donrarib, why do you need to upgrade to dapper?
[05:46] <brotherJohn1234> digitalhav0c: have you tested http://www.torrentflux.com/ ?
[05:46] <ozma> nice, i'm somewhat new to linux
[05:46] <slytherin> ozma: is the default torrent client so bad?
[05:47] <digitalhav0c> brotherJohn1234, no
[05:47] <ozma> so i will do some reading on wine
[05:47] <Number_5> opera has a built in torrent app heh
[05:47] <wweasel> hold on, I had a step by step tutorial for getting it setup yesterday. let me pull it up for you two
[05:47] <donrarib> sethk, my version of ubuntu is a breeze
[05:47] <digitalhav0c> brotherJohn1234, check on it now
[05:47] <ozma> no slytherin it's not
[05:47] <sethk> donrarib, yes, and why do you need to upgrade?
[05:47] <ozma> but i do like the features in utorrent
[05:47] <ozma> opera does?
[05:47] <digitalhav0c> yeah ozma me too
[05:47] <donrarib> some updates
[05:47] <ozma> thanks weasel
[05:47] <wweasel> hold up, getting the guide
[05:47] <steveire> I have some files containing 'one two foo three'. How do I change all of the files to 'one two bar three'? I thought I could use sed, but it outputs to stdout rather than editing the file
[05:48] <digitalhav0c> torrent flux
[05:48] <stefg> wweasel: right... but you need to pass the name of the torrent file to utorrent to make it work... positional parameter is the magic word (%1). and scripts need to be +x and and either in your $PATH or referenced by full filename
[05:48] <donrarib> sethk, what the version of ubuntu you like?
[05:48] <digitalhav0c> it kind off out  the way for right ow untill i setup a webserver on a different box
[05:48] <wweasel> ozma, digitalhav0c: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191161
[05:48] <sethk> donrarib, I'm keeping my production machines on breezy for at least another few weeks.
[05:48] <noiano> hello
[05:48] <noiano> everybody
[05:48] <sethk> donrarib, In general, I never upgrade just because an upgrade is available
[05:48] <ozma> awesome wweasel
[05:49] <BlueEagle> Why doesn't rytmbox recurse into subdirectories when I choose "ADd directory"?
[05:49] <ozma> i will put some work in on that today
[05:49] <wweasel> ozma: if you have any trouble, just ask me here, I did it last night :)
[05:49] <ozma> u run into any problems with it so far?
[05:49] <noiano> does anybody use kopete for im chat?
[05:49] <justin_> How would I get a "joystick", or any other command for that matter -- to load at boot time?
[05:49] <Frostbite> Does anybody know if Intel 3945abg cards work with NetworkManager?  iwconfig works fine (using it now), but NetworkManager says it can't find any wireless cards
[05:49] <donrarib> yes, but now
[05:49] <Frostbite> Wireless Connection Manager in gnome is fine also
[05:49] <wweasel> ozma: well, it's a bit ugly, but it works perfectly. the icons on the tabs don't work, but the app is fully functional.
[05:49] <donrarib> how i update my system?
[05:50] <sethk> justin_, you add it to a script in /etc/rc.d
[05:50] <tengil> anyone successfully compiled fish on an amd64?
[05:50] <ozma> that's pretty much all you need
[05:50] <wweasel> stefg: you say it needs to be in my $PATH. where is that?
[05:50] <justin_> sethk, What script?, rc.d itself?
[05:50] <sethk> justin_, no, rc.d is a directory
[05:51] <sethk> justin_, typically you would create a script in /etc/init.d, and create links in the /etc/rc.d tree for those run levels that should execute the script
[05:51] <justin_> I do not have rc.d - I have rc0.d to rc5.d
[05:51] <sethk> justin_, right
[05:51] <sethk> justin_, sorry,  0 through 5 are run levels 0 through 5
[05:51] <sethk> justin_, most linux uses /etc/rc.d/rc0.d , rc1.d, etc.
[05:52] <stefg> wweasel: $PATH is all the dirs in which the shell looks for executables... just like in good old Autoexec.bat :-)... don't worry, place it in your homefolder or .wine-folder and just make sure to point firefox there
[05:52] <cyber3> back.. I try to use gnome-screensaver-command --lock
[05:52] <ozma> what do you guys like for an mp3 player?
[05:52] <sethk> justin_, however, my answer was correct, even though my directory names were a bit off  :)
[05:52] <cyber3>   but it says that can not connect to the D-BUS daemon
[05:52] <minerale> I installed and then removed the kubuntu package, albeit the blue 'kubuntu' splash screen has stuck, does anyone know how to change that? or the name of the package that handles the fancy bootup ?
[05:52] <justin_> Sethk, OK but I got my soundcard to start on everyboot - I had to do it manually since my card was not detected.. but I do not remember created a script ..
[05:52] <digitalhav0c> thanks wweasel
[05:53] <wweasel> digitalhav0c: np.
[05:53] <sethk> justin_, you might have used some tool that added it to a script for you.
[05:53] <nox-Hand> Does anyone know how I can get my pen-mouse to work in Linux? You know, the ones that just look like a pen with a cord you just drag over your table
[05:53] <justin_> Oh yeah.. I added it to "modules" something, ok same pricipale I guess
[05:53] <donrarib> sethk, but this case, how do i solve this problem of the update manager?
[05:53] <sethk> justin_, yes
[05:53] <steveire> what are runlevels, and how can knowing about them be an advantage to me?
[05:53] <justin_> sethk, Have any links on how to script faqs etc so I can read more?
[05:53] <wweasel> digitalhav0c: what I am working on here with stefg is trying to get firefox to auto-magically open .torrent files with uTorrent.exe.
[05:54] <donrarib> since i cant use almost tools
[05:54] <sethk> justin_, there must be a bunch of them.  I don't know off the top of my head, though.  anyone?  a url about startup scripts for justin_ ?
[05:54] <donrarib> missing lots of things
[05:54] <TheEric> hello all
[05:54] <sethk> donrarib, what happens why you try to run the update manager?
[05:54] <justin_> Ahh well, Ill get to google thanks for the hel sethk  ;D
[05:55] <TheEric> i did some updates and now gnome won't load (im in cli) does anyone know a good console log reader, and what log i should look for?
[05:55] <justin_> help* even
[05:55] <wweasel> stefg: I put a %1. but Firefox isn't filling the variable. uTorrent tells me it can't open file '%1'
[05:55] <donrarib> it closes
[05:55] <sethk> TheEric, logs are just files, read them in any editor.   /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog, to start
[05:55] <romper> hi
[05:55] <TheEric> yeah i just figured they had some fancy shmancy viewer for them ;-)
[05:56] <cypher1> does not totem-gstreamer play dvds ??
[05:56] <sethk> TheEric, they might, I don't know.  I wouldn't use one if it existed, so I never looked.
[05:56] <void^> TheEric: you're probably interested in /var/log/Xorg.0.log if the login screen doesn't even come up
[05:56] <stefg> wweasel: http://www.linuxcommand.org/wss0130.php
[05:56] <minerale> Does anyone know the name of the file/package of the that provides the fancy loading screen as ubuntu is booting up and shuting down ? It's stuck to kubuntu and I want to change it back to ubuntu
[05:56] <TheEric> login comes up but gnome won't load right after i login
[05:57] <wweasel> stefg: I'm not learning to script in Bash. I wouldn't mind some spoon feeding.
[05:57] <romper> i just read a shelll script tutorial. anyone knows where to find some exercises for practising?
[05:57] <sethk> TheEric, that's not likely to be in the X log, but it isn't impossible.  Look at the last few lines of the X log to be sure.
[05:57] <void^> TheEric: look at .xsession-errors in your user's home directory
[05:57] <wweasel> romper: can I give you an excercise? I am trying to do something that needs a really REALLY simple script, but I don't want to learn how.
[05:57] <sethk> TheEric, then look for permissions errors, or any other errors, in messages and syslog.  do ls -ltr /var/log   to find out which logs have changed most recently
[05:57] <sethk> brb
[05:58] <minerale> Would I have better luck posting my question on the forum?
[05:58] <wweasel> minerale: I think it's Splashy.
[05:59] <romper> what's that wweasel?
[05:59] <stefg> wweasel: the syntax  should  rad like 'wine ~/.wine/drive_c/program\ files/utorrent.exe ${1}'
[05:59] !alindeman:*! Hi all.  We're going to restart a server in a few minutes.  Should only affect about 250 users.  Thanks!
[06:00] <TheEric> it seems gdm had a problem loading glcore library
[06:00] <dr_willis> heh - ive used utorrent with wine.. just a few issues - but it worked
[06:00] <wweasel> romper: stefg just helped me. sorry, I have no clue where to find excercises.
[06:01] <romper> ok ty anyway
[06:01] <wweasel> dr_willis: yep, i don't like the fact that icons don't work, but that's minor. and now I have firefox opening .torrent files with uTorrent.
[06:01] <Rygel> I have a problem with networking. On a neatly configured PC as a User Mode Linux Host, the Clients using Ubuntu always start their eth count by 2 - which is the logical continuation of the eth0, eth1... row of the host. This problem does not occur with other distros. Any ideas, someone?
[06:01] <wweasel> stefg: Thanks so much. Is there are recommended place to store this file?
[06:01] <dr_willis> wweasel,  that - i aint futgured out how to do yet.. i normally save the .torrents anyway :P
[06:02] <wweasel> dr_willis: I normally figure that if I need it, i'll go get it again.
[06:02] <stefg> wweasel: either /usr/local/bin for use of all users, or I'd just keep it in .wine, for your personal use
[06:02] <wweasel> dr_willis: stfg just helped me getting it to work with firefox. you need a script
[06:02] <digitalhav0c> wweasel, have yall figured it out  because i would be intrested in it also
[06:02] <scott__> what is the command to reconfigure X11?
[06:02] <dr_willis> wweasel,  sounds like a WIKI page ideas to me!
[06:02] <dr_willis> :P
[06:03] <Aar0n> hey
[06:03] <wweasel> digitalhav0c: Yep. I can guide you through it.
[06:03] <scott__> i tried "dpkg-reconfigre xorg-server
[06:03] <wweasel> dr_willis: Ya think? I can put this up on the wiki
[06:03] <Aar0n> I have installed Ubuntu onto my laptop but it doesn't recognise my ethernet port. How can I fix this??
[06:03] <jrib> scott__: that's the right command, what happened?
[06:04] <jrib> scott__: except, "reconfigure", not "reconfigre"
[06:04] <xolot1> my laptop came with an IR remote, how can i figure out the model (for LIRC)?
[06:04] <scott__> jrib it said that xorg-server was not installed
[06:04] <minerale> wweasel: ah I found, it's package name is usplash and it's packaged in kubntu-usplash-graphics
[06:04] <dr_willis> wweasel,  may as well.. considuering all the bad wiki pages. :P
[06:04] <jrib> scott__: oh oops, xserver-xorg
[06:04] <dr_willis> wweasel,  ive been using ktorrent mainly. but the silly thing keeps my cpu pegged at %99 due to some bug.
[06:04] <scott__> ok let me try that one
[06:04] <wweasel> digitalhav0c: We're creating a script for Firefox to execute when opening a .torrent file. Create a new blank file, name it what you want.
[06:04] <digitalhav0c> wweasel, Can you give me sec
[06:04] <lkz> Hi, how do I configure the mouse buttons in gnome? I'm trying to disable the paste feature of the middle (wheel) button
[06:05] <digitalhav0c> trying to get utorrent working
[06:05] <wweasel> digitalhav0c: sure.
[06:05] <xolot1> my laptop came with an IR remote, how can i figure out the model (for LIRC)?
[06:05] <scott__> jrib that was it! thanks
[06:05] <jrib> scott__: np
[06:05] <Aar0n> anyone?
[06:06] <DeNiaL> hi all
[06:06] <Aar0n> hi
[06:06] <DeNiaL>  someone has got compiz on ubuntu amd 64 ?
[06:06] <xolot1> my laptop came with an IR remote, how can i figure out the model (for LIRC)?
[06:07] <jpozlovsky> Is it possible to send "USB connect and disconnect events" manually to specific port?
[06:07] <Aar0n> No one knows. You've asked three times.
[06:08] <stefg> So the problem with utorrent is that you can't have firefox pass the filename as a parameter directly to wine, coz wine expects the name of the win-binary as the paramter... so you have to write an 'arbitrator' that takes the parameter from firefox and starts wine with parameter 'utorrent' and passes the filename-paramter to the win-executable (which was wine's parameter...)
[06:09] <TheEric> does anyone think re-installing gnome might fix it not loading, all i can see is glcore not loading
[06:09] <sladen> minerale: usplash is the program, the other is the graphics file
[06:09] <sladen> TheEric: no, not related to gnome, related to the X server
[06:10] <sladen> TheEric: what driver is the X server using, is it falling back to VESA?
[06:12] <local> i setup raid1 with mdadm  then made a partition md0p1 with cfdisk... md0 is in /dev but there is no md0p1   whats going on here?
[06:12] <TheEric> sladen: how can i check?
[06:12] <SpComb> stefg: thats trivial one-line bash script, no?
[06:12] <bobovski> Hi all, I'm having a flash problem with firefox
[06:13] <bobovski> when I'm viewing flash media, say on you tube or something, and try to go to a different page firefox fgreezes
[06:13] <bobovski> I've already checked the wiki
[06:13] <bobovski> now I want to try uninstalling flash and reinstalling
[06:13] <stefg> SpComb: given that you should have '#!/bin/sh', at the start and 'exit 0' at the end... that make 3 lines :-)
[06:13] <bobovski> so, I removed libflash-mozplugin and flashplugin-nonfree
[06:14] <SpComb> local: linux doesn't always notice when you create a new device, your options are some udev stuff or reboot
[06:14] <bobovski> that should have disabled flash on firefox. But it didn't and still has the same problem
[06:14] <[sharma] > i have to execute "sudo ifup eth0" on every startup - is there a way that ubuntu does that automatically ?
[06:14] <bobovski> so, now I check about:plugins in firefox
[06:15] <local> SpComb, i did reboot.. hmm windows lol.. .i rebooted ubuntu.. what is this about create a new device?  how? what?
[06:15] <bobovski> and it's listing libflashplayer.so...should I just get rid of that
[06:15] <SpComb> local: if you use udev, it detects the devices and then creates the files for them in /dev/, you have to make it detect your new partition somehow
[06:15] <local> SpComb, what kinda udev stuff? have a link?
[06:16] <SpComb> nope
[06:16] <local> SpComb,  i think i have udev.. how do i check
[06:16] <nox-Hand> Does anyone know how I can get my pen-mouse to work in Linux? You know, the ones that just look like a pen with a cord you just drag over your table
[06:16] <local> SpComb, i rebooted.. still no md0p1
[06:16] <SpComb> oh... is the raid device partitionable?
[06:17] <SpComb> dunno :)
[06:17] <local> SpComb, yes.. i partitioned it with cfdisk /dev/md0
[06:17] <BlackSolaris> himitsu_, I have been trying to get my Airport Extreme Wireless to work with my iBook running Dapper all night long.  I've followed the tutorial at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper, and still no luck.  Any ideas specifically for Airport Extreme?
[06:17] <SpComb> well, I've never played around with partitionable raids so I don't know how they work
[06:17] <BlackSolaris> whoops... I dunno why it listed a user name there
[06:17] <local> SpComb, how did you setup yours?
[06:18] <SpComb> lvm
[06:18] <local> hmmm  never played with lvm... whats the benifit?
[06:18] <SpComb> the size and number of 'parititions' is very flexible
[06:18] <SpComb> you can increase and decrease and move stuff around easily
[06:18] <SpComb> and also give stuff logical names
[06:19] <SpComb> /dev/raid5/var instead of /dev/sda3
[06:19] <local> nice
[06:19] <SpComb> well, /dev/md1p3
[06:19] <SpComb> booting off it isn't such a great idea though, apparently, dunno...
[06:20] <SpComb> I boot off a raid1 and and then attach the rest with lvm-on-raid5
[06:20] <FlaCour> i have breezy server .... when i type "date" it display not correct ... how to change time from console ?
[06:20] <local> software or hw raid1?
[06:20] <SpComb> sw
[06:20] <SpComb> I have two RAID1s, a RAID5 and a RAID0 on three disks :)
[06:20] <BlackSolaris> does anybody have any ideas as to how to get Airport Extreme Wireless working on an iBook G4?
[06:20] <SpComb> can't do that with hardware raid
[06:20] <local> FlaCour,  could be your timezone
[06:20] <local> man date
[06:20] <stefg> FlaCour: sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[06:20] <local> man locales
[06:21] <FlaCour> no idont use ntp
[06:21] <local> FlaCour, maybeyou should ;)
[06:21] <FlaCour> i disable that i want change it by manual
[06:21] <local> man date
[06:21] <local> SpComb,  so grub can boot of sw raid1?
[06:22] <SpComb> well, it can boot off the various compnents of it, of course
[06:22] <FlaCour> local : is that command only to display the "date format" ?
[06:22] <redcard> So what do people use as their podcatchers /podcasting clients?
[06:22] <SpComb> each component of a raid1 is useable by itself
[06:22] <local> FlaCour,  google it ;)    thats the one i use
[06:22] <local> SpComb,  component? huh?  i dont know much about raid
[06:22] <FlaCour> sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com <-- work
[06:22] <FlaCour> lolz
[06:22] <FlaCour> dunno why
[06:23] <FlaCour> Sun Aug 20 23:22:40 WIT 2006 <-- WIT ??? i'm at WIB how to change it ?
[06:23] <FlaCour> jakarta using WIB ....
[06:23] <stefg> sudo tzconfig
[06:24] <SpComb> the debian installer's partition manager was really cool... I managed to setup my raid and lvm stuff just by poking around in the UI, it was awesome
[06:24] <FlaCour> Your current time zone is set to Asia/Jakarta <-- this is correct but it display WIT ...
[06:24] <Terlmann> 800 people ...*freaks out*"WHhhaaaaaggghh!!"
[06:24] <SpComb> although it does mean that I'm not not entirely sure how it's laid out
[06:25] <redcard> Anyone?
[06:25] <SpComb> Terlmann: 800 idlers :)
[06:25] <HeathenDan> how do i full screen diablo 2 with wine?
[06:25] <lamego> ?? anyone
[06:26] <USER019772> ytfitvfgggggggguygbuyh
[06:26] <FurryNemesis> anyone know if I can get a transcript of the latest #ubuntu-classroom lesson?
[06:26] <Raziekiel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[06:28] <Terlmann> Spcomb: I never got the gui-based partitianer to work right the first time... always took three times ,doing the same thing.... LTS sucks, no gcc, no lib, .... and even 5.12 stunk when the via update *fixed *my ac'97... that was useless...
[06:28] <tombuntu> what was the name of that program that allowed me to edit my vbios so that i could actually get 1280x768 on my intel chipset
[06:28] <redcard> Darn.  That's the one program I'm missing.. a good podcast client
[06:28] <FurryNemesis> Raziekiel, ty
[06:28] <Raziekiel> np mate
[06:28] <Bazzi> redcard: amarok?
[06:28] <SpComb> Terlmann: hmm, I'm talking about the debian etch installer now
[06:29] <tombuntu> redcard: ephpod/
[06:29] <Terlmann> ?etch?
[06:29] <Raziekiel> Anyone know how to adjust Ram timings if my bios doesnt have anything?
[06:29] <Terlmann> what how where..
[06:29] <redcard> Bazzi: I've moved away from Amarok cause it bogs the system
[06:29] <Bazzi> :o
[06:29] <redcard> tombuntu: Hmm.. in repos?
[06:30] <lamego> Raziekiel, this not an hw support channel :P
[06:30] <sharperguy-away> tombuntu, "sudo dpkg-reconigure xserver-xorg"?
[06:30] <Raziekiel> lamego: lol kk, just thought I'd ask real fast
[06:30] <tombuntu> sharperguy-away: sure that never works
[06:31] <Terlmann> audo reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:31] <sharperguy-away> oh, hmm
[06:31] <tombuntu> i had it fixed on kubuntu before because after reconfiguring xorg it was learned the item wasnt in the vbios
[06:31] <Terlmann> blado sudo meado whatebver
[06:31] <tombuntu> theres a progam called i815 or something that adds the item to your vbios so you CAN use that resolution
[06:31] <redcard> tombuntu: ephpod doesn't seem to be for linux
[06:32] <SpComb> Terlmann: oh, etch is a debian distro, the current testing
[06:32] <SpComb> well, debian version
[06:32] <tombuntu> redcard: http://pag.csail.mit.edu/~adonovan/hacks/ipod.html
[06:33] <Terlmann> should i brave it, is it better-looking than ubuntu?
[06:33] <james_xxx> does anyone in here have experience with usb wireless adapters? i have a wusb54g v.4 linksys wireless adapter hooked to this PC, but the PC keeps crashing when i am in kubuntu.... i don't know if it does this in windows or not, and i don't know if the usb wirelss adapter has anything to do with it
[06:33] <Terlmann> james_xxx i have same hardware
[06:34] <SpComb> Terlmann: oh, debian is quite different from ubuntu, mainly for non-gui servers...
[06:34] <Terlmann>  on other comp
[06:34] <chx> do nvidia cards work with aiglx now?
[06:34] <redcard> tombuntu: Checkin it out :)
[06:34] <james_xxx> Terlmann: have you had any connectivity issues or problems with crashing?
[06:34] <tombuntu> http://my.opera.com/unsecure/blog/show.dml/320833 checking this out myself
[06:34] <Terlmann> First you must get the files WUSB20XP.sys and WUSB54G.inf from your install disk or from Linksys.com
[06:35] <james_xxx> Terlmann: do you have wusb54g or wusb54gs?
[06:35] <IndyBC> How can I set X-Chat to run in the trace? (Like Gaim)
[06:35] <lamego> IndyBC, you mean, on the tray ?
[06:35] <IndyBC> yes
[06:35] <Terlmann> gs
[06:35] <james_xxx> Terlmann: i have the adapter working, but i think it is crashing my system
[06:36] <lamego> IndyBC, install the xchat-systray package
[06:36] <IndyBC> lamego: Fine. Thank you :-)
[06:36] <cp> is my ubuntu desktop install  suppose to sit on     Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel.   For a long time? it showed the setup up to Configuring X and now it just sits there. Anyone ??
[06:36] <exs>  Hello guys. I'm currently in the process of installing my graphic chipset drivers (openchrome) here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome and I'm on the part where it says "Run autogen.sh with the prefix option so that the driver is being installed in the correct directory". Should I change it to "./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr/exs" because "exs" is the actual name for my user account? Thanks.
[06:36] <james_xxx> Terlmann: ok... this one is a g, without the s, and it was easy to get working.... but, i have a GS as well, maybe i should try it again. i could never get it to work
[06:36] <lamego> cp, probably it is not able to detect and configure for your video card
[06:37] <lamego> excs, /usr is not for user related directories
[06:37] <lamego> exs, you should keep whatver /usr path is on the procedure
[06:37] <cp> hmm
[06:37] <cp> what should i do?
[06:38] <lamego> cp, use the alternate cd
[06:38] <Terlmann> hold it james
[06:38] <exs> lamego:  So, I'll just leave it how it is then, e.g "./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr/"
[06:38] <james_xxx> Terlmann: ok
[06:38] <Terlmann> i have a page
[06:38] <cp> alternate cd ?
[06:38] <Terlmann> you can use
[06:38] <lamego> exs, yes
[06:38] <james_xxx> good
[06:38] <lamego> cp, yes, its a cd with the text mode installer
[06:38] <lamego> which is for some systems ir more reliable
[06:39] <Terlmann> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225206
[06:39] <DeNiaL> someone have compiz on amd 64 ?
[06:39] <stefg> !xgl
[06:39] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:39] <DralaFi> ahh, xgl, THE hot topic of the year :)
[06:39] <james_xxx> Terlmann: ty... btw, what version of gs do you have?
[06:39] <acon> Hi, where are my windows shares mounted? I can see them in the nautilus sidebar, but I can't find where they are mounted in the file system.
[06:39] <tombuntu> it was 855resolution
[06:40] <cp> does it setup the same?
[06:40] <lamego> cp, yes it does
[06:40] <DeNiaL> #ubuntu-xgl
[06:40] <lamego> acon, you could type "mount" on the terminal
[06:40] <cp> hmm
[06:40] <Terlmann> thats all youll need james-i never set mine up-stuck with erthernet- http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225206
[06:41] <DeNiaL> mkay thx
[06:41] <IndyBC> ok, I have installed xchat-systray
[06:41] <lamego> IndyBC, restart xchat
[06:41] <IndyBC> I did.
[06:41] <lamego> you should have some options for it
[06:41] <lamego> somewhere :P
[06:41] <IndyBC> And a tray icon appeared.
[06:41] <IndyBC> I want X-Chat to dissapear
[06:42] <IndyBC> every time I close it
[06:42] <IndyBC> and when I press on the tray icon, I want it to re-appear
[06:42] <lamego> IndyBC, check the options, this is not a chat help channel :P
[06:42] <acon> lamego: I don't see it.
[06:42] <IndyBC> :P
[06:42] <IndyBC> ok, thx :-)
[06:42] <lamego> acon, so they are not mounted for sure
[06:42] <ndee> hello there, I'm following http://tazforum.thetazzone.com/viewtopic.php?t=2189&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 to install xgl. I added the sources.list entry for automatix but it tells me that it can't get  http://www.beerorkid.com/automatix/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 because the subprocess bzip2 returned an errorcode 2, what I can do to fix that?
[06:42] <lamego> acon, probably you just have launchers to mount them
[06:43] <lamego> !! xgl > ndee
[06:43] <ubuntu_> hello!
[06:43] <acon> lamego, ?
[06:43] <ndee> lamego: thx
[06:43] <lamego> acon, every mount point for mounted systems is shown on "mount" output
[06:44] <Hal9000> please help me... i have a problem with grub: windows overwrote the MBR, and I want to get GRUB back. i am chatting from the Live CD now.
[06:44] <acon> lamego: Do you mean that nautilus accesses the windows fileshare through some other means?
[06:44] <DralaFi> Hal9000, just re-install it
[06:44] <neutrinomass> !mbr
[06:44] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:44] <lamego> Hal9000, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:45] <bobovski> hi again, all
[06:45] <Hal9000> ok i will try those procedures...
[06:45] <bobovski> is there a way to apt-get a previous version of firefox?
[06:45] <navyn> hey guys how do i set up xmms to be the default media player?  Right now I have to right click and select open with
[06:45] <lamego> acon, I mean it mounts when you click the "shortcuts"
[06:45] <exs> I just successfuly ( I think ) installed my s3 graphics card, but I don't know the best way to test it to make sure it's actually running correctly. What would I use to test?
[06:45] <javiolo> !backup
[06:45] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[06:46] <acon_> lamego: shortcuts?
[06:46] <javiolo> how can I backup another computer home directory ?
[06:46] <Hal9000> lol it worked
[06:46] <jrib> bobovski: how come? is the current version broken in some way?
[06:46] <Warbo> Help! Ubuntu crashes when I try and configure my RaLink Wifi card
[06:46] <Hal9000> i dont know what i was doing wrong before... :P
[06:46] <lamego> acon_, erm, aren't your talking about shares defined on nautilus ?
[06:46] <bobovski> navyn: right click on a media file, go to properties and then to "open with"
[06:46] <stefg> !info sbackup
[06:46] <ubotu> sbackup: Simple Backup Suite for desktop use. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-1 (dapper), package size 36 kB, installed size 340 kB
[06:47] <bobovski> jrib: well, I think so. I'm having problems with flashplayer hanging. Only in firefox, in opera it's fine. I've tried pretty much everything I've come across as a fix. Before the update a few weeks ago, of firefox that is, it all worked fine
[06:47] <javiolo> stefg with that could I backup a osx computer on my net ?
[06:47] <TheEric> hey dones anyone know a good console mp3 player
[06:47] <lamego> acon_, and yes you can access to a windows share using an smbclient, which does not required mounting to a local filesystem
[06:47] <bobovski> jrib: now firefox hangs randomly when I leave a page with flash content
[06:47] <dr_willis> TheEric,  mpg123
[06:47] <stefg> javiolo: OSX???
[06:47] <Xplicit> if im running duel boot with windows, can i run shared programs of a shared drive or should i install the program in windows and in ubuntu
[06:47] <redsoxfan90> Ubuntu FGLRX drivers 8.25.18, do not work properly on the dv5029us (Radeon Xpress 200M) as of this writing (5/30/2006). It is needed to revert to 8.24.8 for this specific computer in order to get proper 3D acceleration, and 2D with no tearing off.
[06:47] <javiolo> stefg yes Mac OS X
[06:47] <TheEric> dr_willis: does that have a library and stuff
[06:47] <redsoxfan90> were can i get it to work????
[06:48] <stefg> javiolo: sorry, wrong channel, this is #ubuntu
[06:48] <jrib> bobovski: apt-cache policy firefox, can tell you available versions
[06:48] <lamego> Xplicit, you should run windows programas on windows, and linux programs on linux
[06:48] <javiolo> stefg I know
[06:48] <redsoxfan90> Ubuntu FGLRX drivers 8.25.18, do not work properly on the dv5029us (Radeon Xpress 200M) as of this writing (5/30/2006). It is needed to revert to 8.24.8 for this specific computer in order to get proper 3D acceleration, and 2D with no tearing off.
[06:48] <TheEric> lamego: wine
[06:48] <redsoxfan90> were can i get this
[06:48] <javiolo> stefg I want to a  ubuntu machine to backup my os x
[06:48] <Warbo> !patience > redsoxfan90
[06:48] <redsoxfan90> sorry :(
[06:48] <lamego> TheEric, you should install those on your wine environment
[06:48] <haasteem> Xplicit: i believe you can share configuration files, there was a story on that in Linux Journal
[06:48] <bobovski> jrib: ok, so let me askl a question about apt-get
[06:48] <dr_willis> TheEric,  you dident ask for that. You asked for a PLAYER. :P it plays songs. :) install it and see. or check freshmeat.net
[06:49] <bobovski> jrib: when I apt-get install firefox
[06:49] <stefg> javiolo: the ubuntu machine can act as a server... but backup is a client side thing, you cant expect ubuntu to know how to correctly restore an OSX partition
[06:49] <Aar0n> Okay I have plugged in my PCMCIA wifi card and one light is on. Network manager detects it as wlan0. How can I scan for wireless networks?
[06:49] <cyber3> how to run gnome-screensaver from command line?
[06:49] <bobovski> jrib: that just installs the newest version listed here, 1.2.dfsg+1.5.0.5-0ubuntu6.06.1 right?
[06:49] <Symgeosis> Anybody know how to solve this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21218
[06:49] <cyber3> I have an d-bus error
[06:49] <Timmy|GDS> So i guess the repos are down?
[06:50] <Symgeosis> It's a problem with Network manager. I can connect without NM.
[06:50] <Warbo> Can anyone help with my Wifi? Ubuntu locks up when I click "configure" and I have to kill the power
[06:50] <jrib> bobovski: yes, you can do 'sudo apt-get install firefox=VERSION' though
[06:50] <Xplicit> thx haasteem thats what i was hoping to be able to do
[06:50] <redsoxfan90> warbo your not helping me?
[06:50] <redsoxfan90> you asked me for my patience?
[06:50] <javiolo> stefg so Ubuntu cant connect to my os x and copy certain folder every x days ??
[06:50] <cyber3> fail to connect to d-bus daemon
[06:50] <Timmy|GDS> So are the ubuntu repositories down, or is it my problem?
[06:50] <lamego> Symgeosis, that means you are running a script which was built for redhat systems
[06:50] <bobovski> jrib: ok, from the version table, how do I tell which version to type in?
[06:50] <Symgeosis> I have had this problem for over a month. It's annoying to have to use dhclient.
[06:50] <Warbo> redsoxfan90: Well, have you tried a DRI driver? I use one
[06:50] <Symgeosis> lamego, it's the default script that comes with Ubuntu.
[06:50] <bobovski> is it the entire string?
[06:51] <lamego> Timmy|GDS, there is tens of ubuntu mirrors...
[06:51] <cyber3> gnome-screensaver from command line (failed to connect to d-bus system)
[06:51] <stefg> javiolo: it's OSX's job to connect to the ubuntu-server and drop it
[06:51] <stefg> 's backup
[06:51] <Timmy|GDS> lamego: and they are all down it seems
[06:51] <Timmy|GDS> lamego: or?
[06:51] <navyn> bobovski, i would like to just be able to double click the song, and xmms automatically open.  Right now, the default is movie player
[06:51] <jrib> bobovski: yes, but beware these new versions are basically security fixes so you will be running an exploitable firefox
[06:51] <lamego> Timmy|GDS, that would be impossible :)
[06:51] <cello_rasp> how do i change the gtk icon theme without gnome. I found gtk-theme-switch  for changing the gtk wdiget theme, but i cant find anything for icons
[06:51] <lamego> Timmy|GDS, the pt ones are not, for sure :)
[06:51] <jrib> bobovski: also I don't know how well a downgrade of firefox will work
[06:51] <Warbo> navyn: right click song>properties>open with. Make sure XMMS has the radio button on it
[06:52] <Timmy|GDS> lamego: well i cant do a thing with my dapper reps
[06:52] <lamego> Timmy|GDS, what error do you get when you do apt-get update ?
[06:52] <navyn> bobovski, sorry, i misread your message.  Thanks, I can't believe I missed that! :)
[06:52] <bobovski> navyn: yes, pick any media file, go to open with and choose xmms. it will set up the file preferences for all the same media files automatically
[06:52] <haasteem> Xplicit: cool, check their website, that story should be online now...
[06:52] <lamego> Timmy|GDS, have you tried to change to a country mirror ?
[06:52] <bobovski> navyn: np
[06:52] <redsoxfan90> im using the fglrx driver from ati
[06:52] <Timmy|GDS> lamego: apt-get, it wont authenticate and same with synaptoc
[06:52] <redsoxfan90> warbo
[06:52] <lamego> tim_, authenticate what ?
[06:52] <lamego> erm, Timmy|GDS
[06:52] <Warbo> redsoxfan90: I know, but that doesn't support my ATI card, so I use the DRI one
[06:53] <bobovski> jrib: well, it's worth a shot just to see if it's a version specific problem with firefox, right?
[06:53] <Timmy|GDS> lamego: I may change mirrors
[06:53] <redsoxfan90> will DRI work for me?
[06:53] <Timmy|GDS> lamego: and it wont download
[06:53] <rever> Hi, When I open Nautilus then goto Computer. I click on the HDD Icon Share (Which is my fat32 windows linux share) it will mount it but not open it. I have to traverse to where I mount it (/media/share)
[06:53] <Xplicit> while im here could some1 recomend a good irc client for ubuntu, on windows i used Mirc and now HydraIRC because im active in multiple channels at once but in ubuntu gaim and konversation and others i tried didnt let me see more than 1 chan at once
[06:53] <jrib> bobovski: you can try.  But to let you know, flash has always done that to me in firefox on linux.  I am fairly certain it's flash's fault, not firefox's
[06:53] <lamego> Timmy|GDS, could you past the exact error message ?
[06:53] <Warbo> redsoxfan90: I don't know, check if your card is listed on one of the sites (I think dri.sourceforge.net or help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver )
[06:53] <bobovski> jrib: well, I can't even get the firefox-=VERSION thing to work right, so whatever :)
[06:53] <rever> /dev/sda2       /media/share    vfat    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[06:53] <haasteem> Xplicit: xchat
[06:54] <lamego> you dont authentication to get the packages, you should, but it is not required
[06:54] <nox-Hand> Does anyone know how I can get my pen-mouse to work in Linux? You know, the ones that just look like a pen with a cord you just drag over your table.
[06:54] <bobovski> jrib: ah, that's good information to have. You don't know a workaround?
[06:54] <vedder> Hi!
[06:54] <Timmy|GDS> lamego: well, once when i got patient and ran it, it said they couldent be contacted, nothing technical, just no contact
[06:54] <dr_willis> nox-Hand,  a wacom?
[06:54] <Xplicit> thx
[06:54] <nox-Hand> dr_willis, it's not with the whole tablet. Just a pen on a usb cable. Z-pen
[06:54] <haasteem> Xplicit: that is what i am using right now
[06:54] <lamego> Timmy|GDS, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:54] <vedder> I just mount a ext3 partitoin but i can't write
[06:54] <lamego> and change your repositorios locations
[06:55] <bobovski> jrib: I thought at first it was a sound issue, but that doesn't seem to be the case
[06:55] <lamego> my example: http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[06:55] <stefg> nox-Hand: goggle for the exact make and model of your pen-mouse and 'ubuntu' as a serach term
[06:55] <Timmy|GDS> lamego: what should I change? should i just completely rewrite it?
[06:55] <nox-Hand> stefg, right.
[06:55] <Warbo> vedder: Your user needs permissions for that folder
[06:55] <lamego> Timmy|GDS, rewrite the server names, to some country
[06:55] <lamego> pt, uk, us, etc
[06:55] <vedder> how can i do that?
[06:55] <Timmy|GDS> lamego: aight man, you kick ass
[06:55] <conlan> Hi, i have a quick question.
[06:55] <Timmy|GDS> peace
[06:56] <TheEric> exit
[06:56] <bobovski> jrib: thanks for the help!
[06:56] <Warbo> vedder: "sudo chown your-username foldername -R" (although this will destroy the permission system already used on the drive!)
[06:56] <vedder> Thanks Marbo :D
[06:56] <conlan> I want to know how to use a samba share thats on another computer, like its on my ubuntu one
[06:56] <Warbo> vedder: If you want to access it without changing it's permissions then use sudo
[06:56] <vedder> i just want to setip up like the home partition
[06:57] <vedder> auto mount and the start
[06:57] <stefg> !samba
[06:57] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:57] <shawnr_> I'm looking for a Java IDE / or simple Java editor, that has auto complete. eclipse/netbeans are to heavy. I loved JCreator when i was a windows user but it hasn't been ported to linux yet. Anyone have any suggestions?
[06:57] <conlan> thanks
[06:57] <Warbo> vedder: OK, just that if it is another whole Linux system then changing it's permissions like that would ruin it
[06:58] <vedder> ok is a new partition to store my files..wich is the best way to do it?
[06:58] <Dreamglider> when i watch video files windowed the picture is good, but when i og fullscreen, i see alot of lines as if the picture was split up every other line, anyone know what i can do about this ?
[06:58] <Warbo> No Wifi help then? This seems pretty serious...
[06:58] <vedder> defaults        0       0  this is what i have but don't work
[06:58] <Warbo> vedder: A new partition would be fine to use that chown command on
[06:59] <lamego> vedder, it did work, the problem of the permissiones can be fixed as suggested by Warbo
[06:59] <vedder> ok i will do it that way, thanks again :D
[06:59] <lamego> vedder, you should understand how linux permissions work
[06:59] <Kennyout> whoah this channel is huge, anyway hello, I have a question about the difference between the CD and DVD isos
[06:59] <stefg> Dreamglider: deinterlace the file... mplayer, xine or vlc can do this during playback, although it eats CPU-time
[06:59] <dr_willis> vedder,  i make a directory on the new parittions and change The permssions on That - so the user can have it. like a 2nd home directory. :P
[06:59] <Dreamglider> stefg, how
[07:00] <Scorpmoon> how do I change the port openssh uses?
[07:00] <stefg> Dreamglider: check the preferences of your prefereed videoplayer
[07:00] <vedder> this is what i want willis
[07:00] <lamego> Scorpmoon, sshd_config ?
[07:00] <dr_willis> Scorpmoon,  edit the opensshd config files would be the start.
[07:00] <Scorpmoon> lamego, where is it
[07:00] <lamego> Scorpmoon, man sshd
[07:01] <lamego> thats an unusal question, the type of question for someone who should know to read the manual :)
[07:01] <lamego> unusual
[07:01] <Symgeosis> Could somebody pastebin their /etc/dbus-1/system.d/dhcdbd.conf file please?
[07:02] <Warbo> My wifi card is RaLink, and the "rt61" module has autoloaded itself. Are there known issues with this?
[07:02] <Symgeosis> Could somebody pastebin their /etc/dbus-1/system.d/dhcdbd.conf file please?
[07:02] <Scorpmoon> isn't openssh supposed to be started from /etc/rc ? sudo nano /etc/rc gives me an empty file, why?
[07:02] <Dreamglider> i dont want deinterlace if it uses so much CPU, is there no other way around this ?
[07:02] <Symgeosis> Obvious note to self: don't mess with networking stuff when on IRC.
[07:02] <Warbo> Scorpmoon: "ls /etc/rc*"
[07:02] <Kennyout> Can anyone tell me what the difference is between the DVD iso and CD iso are?...like is "Live" only availble to the DVD by defualt? Are there more files/other things?
[07:02] <vedder> Great! :D
[07:03] <dr_willis> Scorpmoon,  because you are incorrect in your assumption.
[07:03] <Scorpmoon> tjere
[07:03] <Scorpmoon> there's like 100 files on that ls
[07:03] <keithhhh> anyone use open movie editor??
[07:03] <lamego> Symgeosis, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21223
[07:03] <Warbo> Scorpmoon: Basically /etc/rcX.d (where X is the runlevel) store links to startup scripts, which are in /etc/init.d
[07:04] <Symgeosis> lamego, thanks.
[07:04] <lamego> Scorpmoon, thats because you have like 100 services that you can run
[07:04] <vedder> the last question this defaults  0   0 or this defaults  0   2 is better for a 2 home partition?
[07:04] <Scorpmoon> hmm the runlevel
[07:04] <vedder> i think is the second one right?
[07:04] <vedder> 0 2
[07:04] <Warbo> Ubuntu runs in runlevel 2 (runlevel 1 is single user)
[07:04] <stefg> Dreamglider: make sure you use xv as the output device... it might be your system is too slow, when you don't have a + 600 Mhz CPU and a reasonable graphics card (no 'shared mem' video)
[07:04] <lamego> vedder, keep the same defaults you use now
[07:05] <Warbo> update-rc.d is used to change the links, don't do it manually (or your changes might get overwritten later)
[07:05] <Scorpmoon> .. /etc/init.d/rc doesn't contain ss
[07:05] <Scorpmoon> damn this is complex
[07:05] <vedder> i don't have defailts there i add that line
[07:05] <lamego> Scorpmoon, do you have sshd installed at all ?
[07:05] <Scorpmoon> yes i apt-get openssh-server and it starts at boot
[07:05] <Warbo> WHat is /etc/init.d/rc?
[07:05] <shawnr_> I'm looking for a Java IDE / or simple Java editor, that has auto complete. eclipse/netbeans are to heavy. I loved JCreator when i was a windows user but it hasn't been ported to linux yet. Anyone have any suggestions?
[07:06] <lamego> Scorpmoon, ls -la /etc/init.d/ssh
[07:06] <Scorpmoon> i just need to change the port it uses, i guess i do that at startup parameters
[07:06] <lamego> Scorpmoon, scripts are st /etc/init.d/*
[07:06] <Dreamglider> ( Computer Stats ) [ CPU Model: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GH Speed: 3065.092 MHz Cache: 512 KB ]  | RAM Usage: 253/1035M [|||||||||||]  ( 24.4% ) | [ HD Model: TOSHIBA MK6021GAS Size: 45G with 16G Free ( 35.6% ) ]  | Number of process: 79
[07:06] <Dreamglider> and Nvidia 128Mb grapic card
[07:06] <Scorpmoon> lamego, i do a backup copy first right? where is the normal place to store such backups
[07:07] <lamego> Scorpmoon, ssh options are stored at /etc/default/ssh
[07:07] <Dreamglider> laptop
[07:07] <lamego> Scorpmoon, you dont need to touch the script
[07:07] <Scorpmoon> lamego, then how do I change the default port
[07:07] <lamego> but this are the command line options
[07:07] <Kathari> I'm one of the many with "Mounting root filesystems" problems, the install cd hangs there, tried all the possibilities listed on the forums, no help... does anyone know if there is progress made on this?
[07:07] <lamego> Scorpmoon, have you read the sshd man ? dont think so
[07:07] <Warbo> Scorpmoon: You can keep backups in /etc/init.d if you want. Something like /etc/init.d/myscript.backup will not be run unless you tell them to with update-rc.d (which will then link it to the rcX.d directories)
[07:07] <stefg> Dreamglider: you have the nvidia-driver installed (not the open source 'nv' driver?)
[07:08] <Scorpmoon> man is just as intriguing to read as a womens novel
[07:08] <lyy> Scorpmoon: i used subversion to backup
[07:08] <Dreamglider> stefg, i dont know
[07:08] <Dreamglider> how do i see that ?
[07:08] <Kathari> I also tried the edgy 6.10 build that's available elsewhere, it got past this hanging point, but it crashed when trying to load X, either way, I've never been able to even get to the install screen
[07:08] <lyy> make sure the back up is on another system.
[07:08] <lamego> Scorpmoon, there is an sshd specific config file which is not related to the service startup script, and thats what you should look for
[07:08] <Scorpmoon> oh i'm looking alright, just no clue where to look
[07:08] <lamego> Scorpmoon, ok, why do you want to change the sshd default port ?
[07:09] <Scorpmoon> lamego, coz I can't touch my router
[07:09] <Scorpmoon> i need to switch port 22 which is standard ssh i presume? to 443
[07:09] <Scorpmoon> since I don't use https for anything
[07:09] <dr_willis> 443? Hmm..
[07:09] <s|k> you know I messed up the file permissions for xorg.conf, what are good permissions for that file?
[07:10] <lamego> Scorpmoon, read the manual, if you were used to it would know there is a "FILES" section wich just lists the file you need
[07:10] <stefg> Dreamglider: do "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable".. press ctrl-alt-backspace after that to restart the X-server
[07:10] <Dreamglider> its a GeForce FX Go5600
[07:10] <lamego> Scorpmoon, something that you can finding, with about 5 key presses
[07:10] <Scorpmoon> yes man ssh tells me how to define the port number.. the problem is I don't know where it's called from
[07:10] <Herbal> is it safe to take this CGWD update or is it gonna blow my gnom-term
[07:10] <lamego> Scorpmoon, read the "FILES" section !
[07:10] <dr_willis> :)
[07:11] <s|k> anyone?
[07:11] <Dreamglider> stefg, ok ill do that
[07:11] <lamego> do i need to read it for you ?
[07:11] <Scorpmoon> now if reading a man was like using notepad, maybe I could find that section
[07:11] <Scorpmoon> oh I found it :)
[07:11] <Clinton__> I'm looking for a gnome applet similar to the System Monitor applet, but it has cpu speed, memory, and bandwidth all within on "box" represented as graph lines.  I'm having a hell of a time remembering what it is called and can't seem to search for it properly.  Does anyone know the name of this applet so I can install it?
[07:11] <Symgeosis> Anybody have any more ideas on how to fix this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21218 ? The dhcdbd conf file is fine. I'm out of ideas.
[07:11] <Scorpmoon> thats a sh*tload of files
[07:12] <Scorpmoon> first of all I don't know what ~/.ssh/ is
[07:12] <lamego> Scorpmoon, it is, if you know to use it, like typing: /FILES
[07:12] <Symgeosis> I can connect to wireless as long as I don't use Network Manager.
[07:12] <lamego> Scorpmoon, ok, i give up, you dont know how to read:
[07:12] <lamego> FILES
[07:12] <lamego>      /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[07:12] <Scorpmoon> don't give up on me, and leave me in the claws of M$ :/
[07:13] <Scorpmoon> woo that's the one
[07:13] <Kennyout> Okay so what is the difference between the CD iso and the DVD iso?
[07:13] <Scorpmoon> would #ListenAddress 0.0.0.0 be the bind address?
[07:13] <christoo> Anyone know how to set up a wireless card in ubuntu?
[07:13] <Clinton__> I'm looking for a gnome applet similar to the System Monitor applet, but it has cpu speed, memory, and bandwidth all within on "box" represented as graph lines.  I'm having a hell of a time remembering what it is called and can't seem to search for it properly.  Does anyone know the name of this applet so I can install it?
[07:13] <Symgeosis> christoo, It depends on what kind.
[07:13] <christoo> yep
[07:14] <christoo> i'm looking it up now
[07:14] <christoo> its an r something
[07:14] <christoo> but let me look it up
[07:14] <lamego> Scorpmoon, yes it is
[07:14] <christoo> the chipset on the card is something like r****
[07:14] <Scorpmoon> In /etc/network/interfaces I have: iface eth0 inet static ... address 192.168.1.3 ... netmask 255.255.255.0 ... .. how do I add 2 IP's for the same NIC? do I just type another address line?
[07:15] <stefg> !enter
[07:15] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:15] <kaot> window 2
[07:15] <kaot> ....doh.
[07:16] <Symgeosis> christoo, you may be able to find out your chipset by doing a "lspci | grep Wireless" or something similar.
[07:16] <lamego> Scorpmoon, you ad an eth0:1
[07:16] <lamego> add
[07:16] <Scorpmoon> lamego, a complete clone of those 4 lines, just with eth0:1 differs?
[07:17] <Scorpmoon> and does the first one need to be eth0:0 or something
[07:17] <lamego> Scorpmoon, and the differente ip...
[07:17] <lamego> no, you just need to make a :1
[07:17] <Scorpmoon> clone of 4 lines, right?
[07:17] <lamego> yes
[07:17] <Scorpmoon> thx alot!
[07:18] <christoo> Hawking HWC54D (Ralink RT2500)
[07:18] <christoo> that would be the card Hawking HWC54D (Ralink RT2500)
[07:20] <blocky> anyone have a suggestion for a good cheap printer that is known to be fully compatible with linux
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> # /sbin/getty invocations for the runlevels.
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> #
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> # The "id" field MUST be the same as the last
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> # characters of the device (after "tty").
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> #
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> # Format:
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> #  <id>:<runlevels>:<action>:<process>
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> #
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> # Note that on most Debian systems tty7 is used by the X Window System,
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> # so if you want to add more getty's go ahead but skip tty7 if you run X.
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> #
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> 2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> 3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> 4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4
[07:20] <Dreamglider> no go, i still have the flicker/lines in fullscreen mode
[07:20] <stefg> !paste
[07:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> 5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> 6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> # Example how to put a getty on a serial line (for a terminal)
[07:20] <sethk> redsoxfan90, no pasting of more than 2 lines
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> #
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> #T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> #T1:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS1 9600 vt100
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> # Example how to put a getty on a modem line.
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> #
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> #T3:23:respawn:/sbin/mgetty -x0 -s 57600 ttyS3
[07:20] <redsoxfan90> redsoxfan90@redsoxfan90-laptop:~$
[07:21] <sethk> redsoxfan90, I know all redsoxfans are depressed, but that's no excuse
[07:21] <redsoxfan90> my friend is telling me that this is bad.
[07:21] <redsoxfan90> :(
[07:21] <redsoxfan90> sry
[07:21] <redsoxfan90> right
[07:21] <richiefrich> why not use a pastebin
[07:21] <sethk> redsoxfan90, put in on a pastebin
[07:21] <richiefrich> !pastebin > redsoxfan90
[07:21] <sethk> redsoxfan90, by the way, it looks perfectly normal to me
[07:21] <stefg> Dreamglider: what player are you using?
[07:21] <redsoxfan90> well he says it was configured craply
[07:22] <richiefrich> redsoxfan90 who
[07:22] <mnvl> does anyone recommend a good utility for creating data cd? the built-in file browser one is playing up
[07:22] <Scorpmoon> lamego, for some reason I can't connect to my ssh now, using the new port 443
[07:22] <sethk> Dreamglider, if you are using a frame buffer, turn it off.  I've seen that cause this problem
[07:22] <Warbo> Ubuntu just died again
[07:22] <Scorpmoon> lamego, i could before, when it was 22, and before messing with network/interfaces
[07:22] <bruenig> mnvl, gnomebaker
[07:22] <redsoxfan90> rich my friend
[07:22] <bruenig> !info gnomebaker
[07:22] <ubotu> gnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 862 kB, installed size 2640 kB
[07:22] <sethk> redsoxfan90, looks perfectly normal to me.  however, that's irrelevant.  what problem are you having.
[07:22] <lamego> Scorpmoon, first you should have done only one change and test it...
[07:23] <richiefrich> redsoxfan90 tell your he needs help
[07:23] <redsoxfan90> sethk i play a game and my graphic card is lagging up
[07:23] <richiefrich> redsoxfan90 whats the issue
[07:23] <redsoxfan90> its delayed
[07:23] <blocky> personally i prefer k3b to gnomebaker
[07:23] <sethk> redsoxfan90, that certainly has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the tty configuration
[07:23] <blocky> but it requires kde libraries
[07:23] <Dreamglider> stefg, VLC
[07:23] <lamego> Scorpmoon, did you look into the sshd logs before asking here :P ?
[07:23] <Scorpmoon> lamego, when i save changes to interfaces or sshd_config they take effect instantly?
[07:23] <mnvl> also, what's a front end for bittorrent?
[07:23] <mnvl> thx bruenig
[07:23] <lamego> no
[07:23] <bruenig> blocky, k3b is better and so is amarok and a bunch of kde apps but I'd rather not run non native apps if at all possible
[07:23] <richiefrich> redsoxfan90 exactly what sethk said
[07:23] <redsoxfan90> sethk: how do i get out of X?
[07:23] <Scorpmoon> lamego, dunno where those logs are :)
[07:24] <Dreamglider> stefg, in fullscreen i still see the lines move aroun even if the player is paused
[07:24] <lamego> Scorpmoon, /var/log*
[07:24] <sethk> redsoxfan90, depends what you mean by that.
[07:24] <richiefrich> redsoxfan90 exit it ..  or kill it
[07:24] <Scorpmoon> no ssh log
[07:24] <lamego> Scorpmoon, you need to learn a lot before using a server :P
[07:24] <blocky> i run gnome but use amarok and k3b
[07:24] <richiefrich> redsoxfan90  ctrl + alt + baskspace
[07:24] <nightattack> hello, my ubuntu got messed up a bit and has lots of startup errors lol, is there anyway to reinstall?
[07:24] <blocky> I see no reason not to use the best tool for the job
[07:24] <Scorpmoon> lamego, yeah.. how i just wish things were more intuitive
[07:24] <bruenig> mnvl, azureus is the most complete most feature laden but it runs on java so is resource hungry. Some people use bittornado or the default bittorrent that comes with ubuntu. Personally I use utorrent through wine but that takes a bit more setup than the others
[07:25] <richiefrich> nightattack use the cd like u did to install this one :P
[07:25] <lamego> Scorpmoon, they are pretty intuitive, if you read the manual
[07:25] <CyberMad> what's the difference between debian and ubuntu?
[07:25] <Scorpmoon> reading a manual is not intuitive.. what is the most intuitive thing in the world? sex! do you need a manual for that?
[07:25] <tarzeau> CyberMad: debian's got alot more software
[07:25] <nightattack> richiefrich , but then i need to delete everything, or will it stay there?
[07:25] <sethk> CyberMad, different distributions
[07:25] <richiefrich> nightattack no it will do it or it should
[07:25] <sethk> nightattack, you can install without deleting everything (or with deleting everything, your choice)
[07:25] <richiefrich> nightattack cfdisk fdisk
[07:26] <Zambezi> Anyone know how to enable SSL in a precompiled gftp-version with support for SSL? The connection fails all the time.
[07:26] <CyberMad> sethk about that, yes i know..
[07:26] <mnvl> well i have the package 'bittorrent' but i can't find the correct binary to open torrents with
[07:26] <sethk> CyberMad, there is nothing more to know, other than the details.
[07:26] <CyberMad> tarzeau what do you mean? both have apt-get, do you mean the ubuntu apt-get list less than debian?
[07:26] <richiefrich> mkfs.{ext3,jfs,ext2,xfs,reiserfs}
[07:26] <virogenesis> is there any fix for the synaptic breakage?
[07:26] <stefg> Dreamglider: then it might be a driver or hardware issue. Check in VLC's preferences (advanced options checked), -> output modules is set to XVideo
[07:26] <lamego> Scorpmoon, sex is human, computers are not humans
[07:26] <tarzeau> CyberMad: yes
[07:26] <sethk> CyberMad, ubuntu happens to use the same package management software as debian.  but ubuntu isn't the only distribution that does this.
[07:26] <YogSothoth> Hello!
[07:27] <Herbal> is it safe to get the compiz update? or does it have bad packages
[07:27] <Scorpmoon> they will be
[07:27] <richiefrich> CyberMad ues aptitude  :P
[07:27] <FantasticFoo> hmm... a tutorial on the internet says to use the "gnome-xgl-settings" command, but i do not have that program.. any deb package for it?
[07:27] <stefg> Dreamglider: save and restart the playback after that
[07:27] <bruenig> mnvl, you should be able to just double click the torrents but other than that I think it is actually called bittorrent. So that should be the name of the binary
[07:27] <sethk> Herbal, see the docs.  it says it is alpha software.  that means that it is alpha software.
[07:27] <lamego> Scorpmoon, and if you have played with the manual since kid as you did with your sex, it would be intuitive
[07:27] <YogSothoth> I just connected a second monitor (Dell 2007FPW) to my Ubuntu box. But it stays black, nothing happens. What should I do?
[07:27] <Scorpmoon> that made sense
[07:27] <sethk> YogSothoth, configure your system to use two monitors
[07:27] <blocky> does anyone know if I will encounter issues using a PIXMA iP2200 printer with linux?
[07:28] <stefg> !printer
[07:28] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:28] <YogSothoth> sethk, where's that?
[07:28] <lamego> Scorpmoon, have you restarted sshd ?
[07:28] <Scorpmoon> ok, the only change i did now, was change port from 22 to 443
[07:28] <Herbal> sethk: one repo had packages that are from edgy and BROKE gnome-term
[07:28] <lamego> after the changes ?
[07:28] <Warbo> Would "sudo dhclient ra0" get an IP from my wifi router?
[07:28] <Scorpmoon> lamego, no i reboot everytime :)
[07:28] <sethk> Herbal, that's what you should expect with alpha software
[07:28] <lamego> SonicvanaJr, uff !
[07:28] <lamego> erm, Scorpmoon
[07:28] <Herbal> sethk: not really
[07:28] <sethk> YogSothoth, part of the X configuration
[07:28] <shawnr_> I'm looking for a Java IDE / or simple Java editor, that has auto complete. eclipse/netbeans are to heavy. I loved JCreator when i was a windows user but it hasn't been ported to linux yet. Anyone have any suggestions?
[07:28] <sethk> Herbal, yes, really.
[07:28] <sethk> Herbal, what else could alpha software possibly mean?
[07:28] <Symgeosis> Warbo, that's what I do. Only my interface is wlan0.
[07:28] <Scorpmoon> damn, port 443 doesn't work
[07:29] <Warbo> OK, well it locks up my box :(
[07:29] <kikica> Hi, i've formatted disk and reinstalled ubuntu 6.06 about 10 times already and always failed to setup ATI drivers correctly - if anyone has a link to a tutorial that works, I'd be very greatful. (yeah i've been googling alot already :/)
[07:29] <Scorpmoon> could that port be closed by default in ubuntu?
[07:29] <YogSothoth> sethk, should I redo x configuration or can I edit X11org.conf? If so, where can I find an example?
[07:29] <Scorpmoon> or does apache occupy it?
[07:29] <stefg> !ATI
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ATI - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <Scorpmoon> it's a LAMP server
[07:29] <Herbal> sethk: well i think that package was a mistake anyway and it was pulled
[07:29] <sethk> Herbal, although I will admit that using alpha software on an unreleased o/s version is worse.
[07:29] <lamego> Scorpmoon, type: netstat -lp
[07:29] <stefg> !ati
[07:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:29] <lamego> to list listening ports
[07:29] <kikica> thx stefg
[07:29] <sethk> Herbal, indeed.  it's alpha software, don't expect it to work.  The docs say that quite explicitly
[07:29] <Scorpmoon> lamego, https is listening
[07:30] <lamego> Scorpmoon, ok, that explains :)
[07:30] <Scorpmoon> duh
[07:30] <Scorpmoon> apache right?
[07:30] <Herbal> lol it works fine, its just they slipped a version of gnome terminal for the wrong os into the repo lol
[07:30] <sethk> YogSothoth, do a search for xinerama, you'll find some examples of how to configure it.  which video card are you using?
[07:30] <Herbal> had to reoll gnome term back
[07:30] <Cirvin_Fox> When i try to print or edit printing settings, the software tells me the CUPS server cannot be reached, how may i fix this?
[07:30] <philly> can anyone help me with networking drivers
[07:30] <bruenig> !anyone
[07:30] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:30] <YogSothoth> sethk, Intel GMA915 I think. I'm on a laptop
[07:30] <sethk> Herbal, it is possible that you might get lucky and make it work.  but it is alpha software.  don't expect it to work, and don't complain when it doesn't
[07:31] <Herbal> im not complaining, just wondering if it has that package or not lol
[07:31] <sethk> YogSothoth, the laptop has a connection for an external monitor?
[07:31] <YogSothoth> sethk, I meant GMA950
[07:31] <CyberMad> sethk so, from that statement.. why do you use ubuntu while debian offer you more software than ubuntu?
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> what is a good note-taking/brainstorming type app?
[07:31] <Herbal> i commented out the beerorkid repo so it should be safe
[07:31] <born> hello all
[07:31] <bruenig> fyrestrtr, what?
[07:31] <YogSothoth> sethk, yes, it is currently connected. The monitor displayed "No input" before and turned to black when I connected it
[07:31] <Scorpmoon> where is apache httpd.conf stored on a LAMP server
[07:31] <bruenig> gedit can take notes
[07:31] <Scorpmoon> btw. how do I do a full system search
[07:31] <YogSothoth> sethk, so I think the connection is good
[07:32] <sethk> CyberMad, I don't, exactly, I use both ubuntu and debian.  Ubuntu is easier to install, easier to configure, easier to maintain, and has all the software I need in most cases.
[07:32] <Warbo> How would I install newer version of a driver which is already installed? (would they conflict? How would I get rid of the old one, just move the .ko file?)
[07:32] <born> after installation i have two problems, i have to do a sudo dhclient every time manually after boot, it does not work automatically, does anybody has a solution for this weird behaviour?
[07:32] <Cirvin_Fox> I tried to use apt-get to reinstall CUPS, but it said the package was unavalible
[07:32] <sethk> YogSothoth, I'd agree the connection itself is good.
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> bruenig: no, something like ... there is an app for osx that does it perfectly, omni-something.
[07:32] <JRlinux> Running visudo to add sudo local user... HOW do you save and quit?  Sorry, all man and google help not sinking in...
[07:32] <sethk> YogSothoth, the problem will be with telling the system to use both at the same time.
[07:32] <Aar0n> can anyone recommaned a good IRC client for ubuntu
[07:32] <sethk> YogSothoth, many laptops have keys to turn on the second monitor, or both, and these keys aren't going to work in linux.
[07:33] <bruenig> Aar0n, I like gaim
[07:33] <CyberMad> sethk thanks
[07:33] <bruenig> Aar0n, xchat seems to be popular also
[07:33] <mnvl> bruenig, in /usr/bin i have only btdownloadcurses, btdownloadheadless, btdownloadcurses.bittorrent and btdownloadheadless.bittorrent
[07:33] <Warbo> Aar0n: Xchat, GAIM
[07:33] <sethk> Aar0n, most people use xchat, gaim is also used.
[07:33] <tarzeau> Aar0n: irssi-text ?
[07:33] <Herbal> i broke my xchat lmao
[07:33] <Cirvin_Fox> so how would one go about reinstalling cups?
[07:33] <sethk> Herbal, you sure you aren't complaining?  :)
[07:33] <Herbal> na lol i though it was funny...i like ksirc
[07:34] <Aar0n> thanks
[07:34] <Aar0n> can i use something like
[07:34] <Aar0n> sudo apt-get xchat?
[07:34] <bruenig> mnvl, it is in /usr/share/bittorrent
[07:34] <Warbo> sudo apt-get install xchat I think
[07:34] <sethk> Cirvin_Fox, something is likely messed up in your package databases.  try doing apt-get update
[07:34] <Cirvin_Fox> mmk
[07:34] <Cirvin_Fox> thanks:-)
[07:34] <sethk> Cirvin_Fox, with sudo, of course.
[07:34] <bruenig> sorry, i figured it would be in /usr/bin as that seems to be the most logical choice but I guess not
[07:34] <Warbo> !info xchat
[07:34] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[07:34] <Aar0n> Ahh
[07:34] <bobovski> Hi again. Has anyone had problems with resolving dns in Ubunu?
[07:35] <exs> I want gaim to launch automatically upon boot.
[07:35] <bobovski> It seems to hang on me every once in awhile
[07:35] <sethk> bobovski, I've helped many people with that problem.  but that is too vague a question, try a more specific one
[07:35] <Warbo> exs: Add it to System>Preferences>Sessions
[07:35] <bobovski> well, pretty often actually
[07:35] <bruenig> exs, go to system>preferences>sessions and then startup programs
[07:35] <fyrestrtr> does anyone know of an app that is like 'omnioutliner' for the mac? http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnioutliner/
[07:35] <sethk> bobovski, dns problems won't cause you to hang.  they will cause things to take a long time, or to time out, but not to hang
[07:35] <Cirvin_Fox> no luck, is there some place that i can get the current version of sources.list? ive tinkered with mine a bit
[07:35] <bruenig> exs, then add an entry and give it the command gaim
[07:36] <bruenig> !easysource
[07:36] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:36] <exs> Thanks :)
[07:36] <mnvl> bruenig, i did 'whereis bittorrent' too but that dir is empty
[07:36] <sethk> fyrestrtr, I've not; I've considered writing something like it.
[07:36] <bobovski> sethk: hmm, ok. Let me try. Sometimes wien I'm surfing the web, I'll click on a link and the status bar for the browser sits at "looking up..." for a long time before resolving the dns
[07:36] <stefg> exs: you want it to launch after log-in... seeSystem-Settings-Session in Gnome
[07:36] <bobovski> sethk: I'
[07:36] <bobovski> er
[07:36] <bruenig> mnvl, try sudo apt-get install bittorrent
[07:36] <Warbo> Lauching GAIM after login makes the buddy list window appear, which can get annoying
[07:36] <bobovski> sethk: I'm using a netgear router with the latest firmware
[07:36] <sethk> bobovski, that does sound like a dns config issue.  If you have more than one dns server configured, I would try exchanging the first and second in your /etc/resolv.conf
[07:36] <exs> stefg:  I don't see "settings" in the "system" menu
[07:36] <sethk> bobovski, it's not a router issue.
[07:36] <Warbo> exs: System>Preferences
[07:36] <fangorious> anyone know how to change the network name that gnome-user-share advertises, seems to be hard coded to "My Network"
[07:37] <bruenig> exs, system>preferences>sessions
[07:37] <exs> yeah, cheers.
[07:37] <bobovski> sthk: ok, I'm looking at resolv.conf, and I've got nameserver 192.168.1.1
[07:37] <sethk> bobovski, it may be waiting for a timeout on the first listed dns server before trying the second
[07:37] <it1957> hello
[07:37] <sethk> bobovski, only one?
[07:37] <stefg> exs... first entry in the system menu... got no friggin english gnome here :-)
[07:37] <bobovski> indeed
[07:37] <sethk> bobovski, then I take it back, it is the router configuration, because you are using your router as your dns source
[07:37] <sethk> bobovski, assuming your router is 192.168.1.1
[07:37] <bobovski> sethk: it is
[07:38] <bobovski> sethk: do I turn off dhcp on the router?
[07:38] <sethk> bobovski, no, not entirely
[07:38] <sethk> bobovski, you can override the dns settings without doing that
[07:38] <sethk> bobovski, if you know what dns servers to use, it's easy.
[07:38] <sethk> bobovski, if you don't, you may have to get the info from your isp.
[07:39] <sethk> bobovski, I'm assuming your router get's dns configuration using dhcp from your isp
[07:39] <bobovski> sethk: yes
[07:39] <shawnr_> Can anyone help me with getting Geany to compile and run my java files ?
[07:39] <sethk> bobovski, You can replace, in /etc/resolv.conf, the router with one or more dns server IPs
[07:39] <bobovski> sethk: which are directly from the ISP, correct?
[07:39] <sethk> bobovski, of course that assumes you know what the servers are.  Can you dump the router config and find out what dns servers it is using?
[07:40] <Sumedh> req support for sify broadband india
[07:40] <sethk> bobovski, usually, yes, that's from the ISP for both IP and DNS addresses.
[07:40] <exs> stefg:  If I want kopete to startup (I checked the shortcut I con it made and checked it, it said "Instant Messenger"..) so, I clicked 'startup programs' tab and clicked the 'add' button, I then pasted in "Instant Messenger" and clicked ok. Will this work?
[07:40] <bobovski> sethk: let me see if I get what you are asking
[07:40] <stefg> exs: you'll find that out :-)
[07:40] <bobovski> sethk: ok, I have two dns servers listed
[07:40] <bruenig> exs, i doubt the command for kopete is Instant Messenger
[07:40] <bruenig> exs, it is likely kopete
[07:40] <Warbo> How can I change a driver module? I want to replace /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-k7/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt2600/rt61.ko
[07:40] <bobovski> sethk: and one dhcp server listed, in the "connection status" poart for the router
[07:41] <exs> bruenig:  ok, well I'll change it to kopete then
[07:41] <sethk> bobovski, ok.  what I would do is to test the servers, using either the "host" command or the "dig" command.  Both are command line utilities that make dns queries
[07:41] <DJAdmiral> if i just want to run windoze me on ubuntu which has my entire 40gb hard disk with it's ext2 partition and swap partition, what VMWare programs will i need and will it cost me anything?
[07:41] <bruenig> exs, open up a terminal and type kopete and see if it launches, if it does then that is the command
[07:41] <sethk> bobovski, now I'm confused.  where did you have two listed?
[07:41] <revlo> hi can you roughly tell me how much space a ubuntu-server with apache and perl, bitlbee and courier-imap will take? and can I user the "normal" ubuntu repo for irssi and stuff?
[07:41] <Warbo> DJAdmiral: You will need a license to run Windows ME
[07:41] <sethk> bobovski, most likely only the one listed in connection status is actually being used.
[07:41] <exs> bruenig:  yes, it worked :)
[07:41] <DJAdmiral> Warbo: I have one.
[07:41] <sethk> bobovski, where did the other DNS addresses come from?
[07:42] <bobovski> sethk: sethk: I'm accessing the router's config and checking the status of the connection through the router. I'ts listing one dhcp server and two dns servers from my ISP
[07:42] <sethk> bobovski, ok, try this.
[07:42] <sethk> bobovski, host www.yahoo.com DNS-IP     replace DNS-IP with one of the DNS IPs
[07:42] <Warbo> DJAdmiral: vmware-player cannot create new systems, so you may need the server one (whichever one is also free, but not in Ubuntu)
[07:42] <shawnr_> Can anyone help me with getting Geany to compile and run my java files ? Anyone?
[07:42] <Sumedh> when is ubuntu-6.06.1 dvd gona be realeased 386 one
[07:42] <Cirvin_Fox> i restored sources.list yet when i try and use apt to install cups, it tells me there is no installation cantitdate
[07:43] <sethk> bobovski, that makes a dns request explicitly to that dns server, and www.yahoo.com is just a name that should be resolvable everywhere
[07:43] <bruenig> Sumedh, is there some reason you need the dvd?
[07:43] <Warbo> Cirvin_Fox: Did you run "sudo apt-get update"?
[07:43] <Cirvin_Fox> yes
[07:43] <fyrestrtr> Cirvin_Fox: sudo apt-get update
[07:43] <DJAdmiral> Warbo: so I need VMWare Player and VMWare server?
[07:43] <Warbo> k, just checking
[07:43] <sethk> bobovski, try it also with the second DNS and with the DNS from your active configuration output
[07:43] <bobovski> sethk: ok, done. what should I be looking for?
[07:43] <sethk> bobovski, it will either come back immediately, or wait a while and time out
[07:43] <YogSothoth> sethk, yes I have a key to activate the second monitor (Fn+F7). Didn't think of that!
[07:43] <bobovski> sethk: what's the active configuration output?
[07:43] <Warbo> DJAdmiral: I don't know if you need the player if you have the server, just that the player alone can't do it (without some messing around)
[07:44] <sethk> YogSothoth, try it, although it may not work for linux
[07:44] <bobovski> sethk: the nameserver from resolv.conf?
[07:44] <sethk> bobovski, no,
[07:44] <Aar0n> ubuntu says there is 194mb of updates for me. do i need them all?
[07:44] <Herbal> anyone know a live distro for like data recovery or hardware diagnostic?
[07:44] <bruenig> Aar0n, sure
[07:44] <sethk> bobovski, you said you had two in the router config and then one from the router's active connection, or configuration, or something like that.
[07:44] <bbrazil> Herbal: RIPlinux possibly
[07:44] <Aar0n> herbal: F.O.R.K or Helix
[07:44] <Warbo> Aar0n: Do you need any? It is up to you really
[07:44] <bobovski> ah, wait
[07:44] <DJAdmiral> Warbo: on vmware.com it says that the vmware player can run systems created by vmware workstation, symantec disk thingy or something and microsoft virtual machines
[07:45] <Aar0n> Ah okay Warbo thanks
[07:45] <Herbal> kk, my aunt just prolly blew her HD im gonna go see if i can help her
[07:45] <bobovski> sethk: the first dns does stall
[07:45] <Cirvin_Fox> i'm going to try and use breezy repositories
[07:45] <bobovski> er, at least it did once
[07:45] <YogSothoth> sethk, anyway I have a friend next to me that run exactly the same hardware configuration but with WinXP, and he didn't had to press this key. It activated automaticaly. So I think the output is activated by default.
[07:45] <sethk> bobovski, what about the second
[07:45] <Warbo> DJAdmiral: I know that a new image cannot be made with VMWare player, but that is about it
[07:45] <bobovski> sethk: ran fine. But now the first one runs fine as well
[07:46] <sethk> YogSothoth, possibly, but check in the bios setting, the default may be configurable
[07:46] <sethk> bobovski, that may be fine, because the delay may have been because it wasn't in the DNS servers's cache
[07:46] <bobovski> sethk: there's no chance it could be the ISP is there?
[07:46] <YogSothoth> sethk, thanx
[07:46] <DJAdmiral> DJAdmiral: I might as well just have a dualboot with winme the next time i decide to reinstall ubuntu lol, thanks anyway
[07:46] <sethk> bobovski, sure, it definitely could be
[07:46] <sethk> bobovski, probably the DNS servers are in your ISP, that's usually what happens.
[07:47] <bobovski> sethk: they have recently "upgraded", and have had some dns resolving issues with other servers I think
[07:47] <Scorpmoon> how do I disable https with apache?
[07:47] <sethk> bobovski, it's probably their fault, but you, also, can probably work around it in your machine by using another publicly available dns server
[07:47] <sethk> bobovski, I guess the first thing to do is ask them to fix it.
[07:48] <bobovski> sethk: hm, I can test it using another dns server?
[07:48] <Cirvin_Fox> failed. its as if they removed CUPS from the repositories!
[07:48] <pluma> How come there's so many Germans around?
[07:48] <bluesign> i have installed smokeping, when i debug i can see values written to db but cannot see them in graph? any idea?
[07:48] <Gibbster> Hello. I just installed ubuntu on a new system, and sound works great. mpg123 compains that it 'can't find default sound device' though. Does anyone know what that's about? thanks
[07:48] <sethk> bobovski, sure.  use the host command, it lets you talk to any DNS server if you know the IP
[07:48] <bruenig> !info cupsys
[07:48] <ubotu> cupsys: Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.2-0ubuntu0.6.06 (dapper), package size 2199 kB, installed size 10168 kB
[07:48] <DJAdmiral> pluma: is there something wrong with Germans?
[07:49] <ailean> guys, I'm going to install dapper on a few of the boxes at my local youth club. they have windows machines and apples and I want to open their minds to the third option.  i wondered if it was possible to buy metallic stickers that say "powered by Ubuntu, or Linux" or something.  I saw the digg story about that computer company that's giving them away for free, but i'm in europe.
[07:49] <pluma> DJAdmiral: I'm German. Of course there is.
[07:49] <sethk> bobovski, if one of the available ones doesn't have the delay problem, put it into /etc/resolv.conf before the 192.168.1.1 namserver
[07:49] <revlo> pluma: bavarian eh? :)
[07:49] <DJAdmiral> pluma: good one :P
[07:49] <pluma> revlo: Ew.
[07:49] <Cirvin_Fox> >< then i've been using the wrong name
[07:49] <revlo> pluma: sry
[07:49] <bobovski> sethk: before means anywhere above right? and do I have to put nameserver before it?
[07:49] <pluma> revlo: Bavarians are Germany's Texans.
[07:49] <DJAdmiral> ailean: shipit orders include free ubuntu stickers
[07:49] <Cirvin_Fox> yep, there it is, thanks for the help all!
[07:50] <sethk> bobovski, yes, a line    nameserver ###.###.###.###
[07:50] <bobovski> sethk: I'm confused about the syntax in resolv.conf
[07:50] <bruenig> those free ubuntu stickers are soooo great too
[07:50] <bobovski> sethk: ok, I see, thanks!
[07:50] <revlo> pluma: i know.. Iam preussian :)
[07:50] <ailean> DJAdmiral, thanks :)
[07:50] <DJAdmiral> ailean: no problemo
[07:50] <sethk> bobovski, it finds the first nameserver line, tries that server, then tries the next nameserver line, etc.
[07:50] <achandrashekar> Anybody know how to ethernet bond in ubuntu??
[07:50] <pluma> revlo: You *are* aware Prussia collapsed several decades ago, right?
[07:50] <bobovski> sethk: do you happen to know of a reliable dns server?
[07:50] <sethk> bobovski, it's unusual to have more than two or three nameserver lines in /etc/resolv.conf
[07:50] <revlo> pluma: yeh
[07:50] <kyja> kyja
[07:50] <kyja> kyja
[07:51] <kyja> kyja
[07:51] <sethk> bobovski, you should be able to find a list at the site for djbdns
[07:51] <kyja> kyja
[07:51] <bruenig> !ops
[07:51] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[07:51] <kyja> kyja
[07:51] <kyja> kyja
[07:51] <revlo> anybody here running ubuntu-server?
[07:51] <Gibbster> or if not, do you know of a good command line audio player that plays well with ubuntu?
[07:51] <kyja> kyja
[07:51] <kyja> kyja
[07:51] <LoRez> Warning: `kyja' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[07:51] <revlo> kyja: ?
[07:51] <sethk> bobovski, which is a dns server software package.
[07:51] <kyja> kyja
[07:51] <kyja> kyja
[07:51] <kyja> omg 1 sec
[07:51] <kyja> kyja
[07:51] <bobovski> sethk: ok, the first dns stalled with the host command again, I'm going to assume, then, that it is the ISP
[07:51] <kyja> kyja
[07:51] <sethk> bobovski, google should give you gobs of choices.
[07:51] <Rawplayer> anyone of you guys used software raid with ubuntu?
[07:51] <sethk> bobovski, yes, I agree.
[07:51] <revlo> ompaul: thx
[07:51] <Rawplayer> i have a few problems with the setup
[07:52] <ompaul> np
[07:52] <Warbo> What does it mean when the Network Settings window ghosts out and the mouse cursor spins round and round?
[07:52] <Warbo> Is it better than the mouse not moving, since the system has crashed?
[07:52] <bobovski> sethk: ok, thanks for all of the help. I will nag my ISP. I really appreciate your advice
[07:52] <pluma> Hrmpf. It's raining and the weather applet's telling me "scattered clouds" again. Isn't there a more accurate version, maybe one that actually has seperate weather reports for Cologne and Bonn?
[07:52] <Sumedh> any indians
[07:52] <deltab> ailean: I've seen all kinds of case badges, including Tux, at computer fairs
[07:53] <Sumedh> req help with sify bb dialer
[07:53] <ailean> deltab, any idea where I could order some though?
[07:53] <engla> hello all. I need an evolution hint: How do I get spam filtering to work?
[07:53] <ailean> deltab, i'm out of the way of these conferences :)
[07:53] <YogSothoth> sethk, I just edited my xorg.conf following example at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22412.html Now how can I reload X11 without restarting?
[07:53] <Sumedh> hard worrking guys having a small break in middel of some thing
[07:54] <sara> hey
[07:54] <dr_willis> YogSothoth,  kill off the x server with alt-ctrl-backspace or kill the gdm service and use 'startx'
[07:54] <Zambezi> Anyone with MythTV installed?
[07:54] <YogSothoth> thanks dr_willis
[07:54] <sara> can anyone help me.....my GTK wont open...and ideas?
[07:54] <Sumedh> can some one help me when some ones free pl
[07:54] <achandrashekar> YogSothoth: I think a ctrl-alt-bkspc should do it without a complete restatrt
[07:54] <bobovski> sethk: Hey, this might be the root of another problem I'm having (keeping an ssh connection alive)
[07:54] <deltab> ailean: http://froogle.google.co.uk/froogle?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=linux+case+badge&btnG=Google+Search&sa=N&tab=wf
[07:54] <dugryce> hello
[07:55] <dr_willis> mooo
[07:55] <sara> anyone please?!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:55] <ailean> ta deltab, for some reason i didn't think of that . . .
[07:55] <dr_willis> sara,  you need to clarify the problem.. since as you stated it.. makes NO sence.
[07:55] <achandrashekar> is anyone working on the XEN project here? i see it as a high priority bounty project but havent heard anything lately.
[07:56] <sara> GTK wont open for me....how does that not make sence?
[07:56] <nightattack> 
[07:56] <dugryce> Hi I am using a belkin wireless router on my compter now it's kind of slow on line
[07:56] <minerale> Is it normal for grub to crash and restart if a usb drive is plugged in ?
[07:56] <minerale> err. I mean, is it a known bug ?
[07:56] <dr_willis> sara,  what do you mean by 'gtk' - as far as i know gtk is a library/widget set - not a program that opens.
[07:56] <deltab> ailean: there are others; search the web for case sticker or case badge
[07:57] <dr_willis> and 'wont open' is also vague.  run it from a terminal? get an error message?
[07:57] <ailean> k
[07:57] <lamego> minerale, grub crashing, are you sure it is really grub ?
[07:57] <sara> P2p clinet ....(GTK-Gnutella)
[07:57] <sara> i try to open it and nothing happends
[07:58] <fangorious> sara: if you open a terminal and try to launch it from there, do you get an error message?
[07:58] <sara> yes
[07:58] <minerale> lamego: well, it happens right before grub comes up
[07:58] <deltab> sara: how are you trying?
[07:58] <deltab> what's the error message?
[07:58] <fangorious> sara: what is the error?
[07:58] <sara> i dont know the termainal closes too fast for me to read it
[07:59] <dr_willis> sara,  ok.. open up a terminal, type 'gtk-gnutella'  - you are saying that the terminal then closes automaticially ?
[08:00] <frying_fish> Hi anyone around good with lirc?
[08:00] <sara> yes
[08:00] <bruenig> !anyone
[08:00] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:00] <meisam> hi, im sorry...serious problem over here..i wantted to install postgresql 8.1 (the latets one), but now i have installed 7.4 ...what to do?
[08:00] <frying_fish> bruenig: yeah, the reason I ask is, : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240227
[08:00] <meisam> how can i upgrade
[08:00] <meisam> please help me
[08:00] <dr_willis> thats a pretty good crash/bug  if its managing to close the gnome-terminal...
[08:00] <frying_fish> so, anyone good with lirc, since I will need some debugging most likely.
[08:00] <YogSothoth> sethk, just rebooted
[08:01] <fangorious> sara: does anything else crash your terminal?
[08:01] <YogSothoth> sethk, I killed gdm but it did not gave me a command line to startx again
[08:01] <sethk> bobovski, what about the ssh problem?
[08:01] <meisam>  sara : u r iranian?
[08:01] <erUSUL> !upgrade > meisam
[08:01] <sethk> YogSothoth, control-alt-f1 will get you to a console
[08:01] <sara> no
[08:01] <meisam> erUSUL> yes?
[08:01] <erUSUL> meisam: which version of ubuntu do you have installed?
[08:01] <meisam> dapper
[08:01] <erUSUL> !upgrade
[08:01] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[08:01] <meisam> erUSUL> dapper
[08:02] <erUSUL> meisam: in dapper postgres is 8.1 how come do you have installed 7.4??
[08:02] <YogSothoth> sethk, so I was unable to do anything, i rebooteed. And now it's all fucked up :) my main screen use a weird resolution and the second screen is not used. When I try to go to the resolution tool it says: "The X Server does not support the XRandR extension. Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available."
[08:02] <frying_fish> so bruenig ideas?
[08:02] <meisam> i dun knowwwwwww
[08:02] <meisam> erUSU im sorry
[08:02] <fangorious> sara: is there a .gnutella (or some other appropriately named) folder in your home directory?
[08:02] <meisam> i just apt get
[08:02] <meisam> thats all
[08:02] <sara> it tells me sometimes to upgrade...how do i do that
[08:02] <bruenig> frying_fish, i haven't a clue, I was just trying to get you to ask your question so others good see it
[08:02] <erUSUL> meisam: sudo apt-get install postgresql-8.1*
[08:02] <bruenig> could*
[08:03] <meisam> with * ?
[08:03] <frying_fish> yeah cool, I know most don't end up asking clear things to start with
[08:03] <sara> yea there is
[08:03] <YogSothoth> sethk, oh yes thanks for the tip (ctrl+alt+f1)
[08:03] <erUSUL> to isnstall the server and the client and other stuff
[08:03] <nikosapi> Anybody here using thunar?
[08:03] <dr_willis> it pays to ask a good question.
[08:03] <sethk> YogSothoth, you can get back to where you were before using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:03] <dr_willis> nikosapi,  ive gotten where i really dislike that program.
[08:03] <snoops> would someone be able to explain to me the difference between flag prefixes - and --.. what's the difference? I thought -- was supposed to be for words, like --yes would be the flag yes, but -yes would be concatenating flag y e and s.
[08:04] <meisam> erUSUL i think its working
[08:04] <YogSothoth> sethk, maybe dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will be able to detect and configure my dual screen?
[08:04] <meisam> i enterd the command with *, am i right?
[08:04] <fangorious> sara: i would try uninstalling gkt-gnutella, deleting your .gnutella directory (or just rename it first, if you prefer) and then reinstall the app
[08:04] <frying_fish> am thinking I may just re-install this system, or install edgy
[08:04] <nikosapi> well, have you had a problem when you open it and 2 windowss open?
[08:04] <sara> i already tired
[08:04] <bruenig> snoops, generally I would say that is correct
[08:04] <sethk> YogSothoth, give it a try.  at the least it will get back your single screen
[08:04] <erUSUL> snoops: '-' short switches (one letter) '--' long ones (sometimes called gnu style ones)
[08:05] <meisam> sara , it seemed iranian...im sorry if asked
[08:05] <fangorious> sara: did you install it from the ubuntu repos?
[08:05] <dr_willis> sara,  create a new User - and see if theproblem also happens with them.
[08:05] <sara> it does..i tired it on another user
[08:05] <sara> im not iranian
[08:06] <snoops> bruenig, erUSUL thanks.. it's just I keep coming across applications which don't follow that, and allow for -yes meaning the long flag yes, not y e and s.
[08:06] <bobovski> sethk: my ssh connection, which has always been reliable, just times out. consistently
[08:06] <YogSothoth> sethk, thanks
[08:06] <erUSUL> snoops: no problem
[08:07] <deltab> snoops: each program can choose what option processing to do, so they can vary
[08:07] <meisam> erUSUL im sorry dude does it upgrade it fully?
[08:07] <sara> ok well its telling me to upgrade bc the version is too ancient...and i ran an upgrade in the term. and it says the same thing again
[08:07] <meisam> i mean everything ?
[08:07] <fangorious> sara: how does it tell you to upgrade if launching it crashes even the terminal?
[08:08] <bobovski> sethk: update, my ISP just gave me a couple military dns addys to use instead :)
[08:08] <sara> sometimes it does and sometimes it crashes
[08:08] <fangorious> sara: did you install it from the ubuntu repos, or download it directly from the gtk-gnutella website?
[08:09] <bobovski> back later. Thanks aga in for the help, sethk
[08:09] <sara> from synapatic
[08:09] <bruenig> synaptic=repos
[08:10] <sara> ok thanks!
[08:10] <[b] urk> anyone here use rxvt with shading?
[08:10] <fangorious> bruenig: unless you add a non-ubuntu repo to your sources.list
[08:10] <haasteem> [b] urk: i use rxvt
[08:10] <bruenig> fangurious, does that would still show in synaptic but I guess you did specify ubuntu repo and not just repo generally
[08:10] <sethk> bobslaede, np
[08:10] <[b] urk> with shading?
[08:11] <bruenig> -does
[08:11] <nixternal> ompaul: ping?
[08:11] <dr_willis> you meanr xvt with the fake background transparency?
[08:11] <haasteem> [b] urk: what do you mean with "shading"?
[08:11] <ompaul> nixternal, pong
[08:12] <nixternal> hey
[08:12] <fangorious> sara: well, i'm really not familiar with that app, so i'm pretty much at the limit of what i can suggest for it. do they have their own IRC channel or support forum? Also, have you tried posting on ubuntuforums.org?
[08:12] <[b] urk> haasteem, something that has to do with transparency
[08:12] <sara> ok thanks
[08:12] <nixternal> kyja's client had an autohighlighter malfunction that caused his konvo to spam
[08:12] <haasteem> i have transparency
[08:12] <bruenig> sara, why not try another gnutella app if that is all you need
[08:12] <dr_willis> haasteem,  me also
[08:12] <nixternal> i can confirm his problem, that he had it setup wrong
[08:12] <sara> i dont know how!
[08:12] <ompaul> nixternal, k
[08:12] <nixternal> thanks ompaul!
[08:13] <sara> i just need something i can Dl music from and thats it
[08:13] <sara> hah
[08:13] <dr_willis> !p2p
[08:13] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network). BitTorrent: see !torrent Direct connect: try valknut
[08:13] <ompaul>  nixternal on another subject I sent u a pm :)
[08:13] <bruenig> sara, that seems to be the only one in the repos that has a gui
[08:13] <dr_willis> there ya go sara
[08:13] <fangorious> sara, search synaptic for 'gnutella' and it will show you all packages that have gnutella in the description
[08:13] <bruenig> sara, that is illegal
[08:13] <sara> yeah
[08:13] <bruenig> i cannot morally continue with helping
[08:13] <haasteem> [b] urk: urxvt -tr -bg black -fg white , that is the command i use
[08:13] <fangorious> bruenig: not automatically, some artists give away free downloads
[08:14] <[b] urk> haasteem, but you dont use the -sh option that starts shading
[08:14] <dr_willis> p2p - Oh the Humanity!
[08:14] <meisam> erUSUL friend, do i need to install apache web server or php or something fot postgresql?
[08:14] <haasteem> [b] urk: ahhh, apparently not
[08:14] <bruenig> all music I have on my computer has been pirated as well as all the apps I had before i switched from windows
[08:14] <shawnr_> Anyone know how i can get anjuta configured to compile java source? it doesn't seem to be working with 'javac'
[08:15] <kyja> thank you and sorry about my highlighter.
[08:15] <sara> thanks everyone
[08:15] <meisam> guys can anybody tell me if ineed apache web server for postgresql?
[08:16] <_Sand_man_> meisam: no
[08:16] <shawnr_> anyone?
[08:16] <meisam> so how can i connect to the server?
[08:17] <_Sand_man_> meisam: phppgadmin need apache
[08:17] <meisam> aha
[08:17] <bruenig> shawnr_, perhaps your java path is not specified correctly, I don't know how to change that but that seems to be a common issue
[08:17] <dr_willis> often the altertives to java needs to be confgured
[08:17] <meisam> _Sand_man so for using postgres i need to have pgadmin?
[08:17] <meisam> yes?
[08:18] <Zambezi> I have big problems now. I need a captureapplication within 15 minutes. Isn't there somethingelse than MythTV?
[08:18] <shawnr_> bruenig, im so frustrated. i need this running for school.
[08:18] <Aphex_Twin> is it possible to launch an application from a console and close the console without closing the application?
[08:18] <sethk> shawnr_, when you do     type javac    at the command line, is it found?
[08:18] <mistraal> how do you get accented characters on windows share filenames to show correctly?
[08:18] <shawnr_> sethk, no
[08:18] <Aphex_Twin> like the "Run" option in Windows and KDE
[08:18] <feugan3333> Hi all. Anyone clued up with firewalls? I want to know if it is safe to allow connections from the loopback address?
[08:18] <Aphex_Twin> is there a "Run" option for GNOME ?
[08:18] <_Sand_man_> meisam, pgadmin3 is a client for postgresql...
[08:18] <sethk> shawnr_, then it is either (1) javac isn't installed or (2) the execution search path doesn't include the directory where javac lives
[08:18] <bruenig> Aphex_Twin, hit alt + f2
[08:18] <_Sand_man_> good client
[08:18] <meisam> _Sand_man i need an interface...is that so?
[08:18] <xnszxdotnet> is setup of mac os x, winxp, ubuntu easy to do?
[08:18] <bbrazil> feugan3333: unles you've got really weird requirement, you always want to allow those
[08:19] <Aphex_Twin> bruenig: anything besides that?
[08:19] <shawnr_> sethk, i have eclipse installed and it can compile just fine. but i tried like 5 other ide's and none of them will work
[08:19] <bruenig> Aphex_twin what are you wanting specifically
[08:19] <Aphex_Twin> bruenig: oh, that works
[08:19] <bruenig> ok
[08:19] <Aphex_Twin> bruenig: thanks for the tip
[08:19] <_Sand_man_> meisam, pgadmin3 is a great interface... if you prefer a web interface, use phppgadmin
[08:19] <sethk> shawnr_, then you need to add the directory where javac lives to the execution search path, or make a link in, say, /usr/bin.  Do you know what directory javac is in?
[08:20] <dr_willis> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:20] <shawnr_> sethk, no how can i find it?
[08:20] <bruenig> whereis javac?
[08:20] <sethk> shawnr_, try   locate javac
[08:20] <dr_willis> sethk,  ive seen a lot of java problems fixed lately with  -->  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:20] <feugan3333> bbrazil: So if I receive a packet on eth0 with a source address of 127.0.0.1 (spoofed), will it be allowed through?
[08:20] <sethk> shawnr_, if that doesn't find it, you can use the find command, but locate is much quicker and will find it unless it was added in the last day.
[08:21] <sethk> dr_willis, possibly, but I don't know what that does, so I don't know if it's relevant to this problem.
[08:21] <bbrazil> feugan3333: no, I mean that anything originating on the 'lo' interface is safe
[08:21] <bbrazil> feugan3333: see rp_filter
[08:21] <sethk> shawnr_, my guess would be /usr/local/bin/javac, but that's only a guess.
[08:22] <dr_willis> sethk,  i missed half  his problem :P  but  getting java going has been askeed a lot in #kubuntu - and it seems mainly they are using the  gcc java  and need to run that uldate-alternatove command to run the real SUN java
[08:22] <sethk> dr_willis, ok, but that's a situation where there are two javac processes.  He is not finding either.
[08:23] <dr_willis> sethk,  ahh.. now that is a new one.
[08:23] <sethk> dr_willis, if you install from sun's web site, and don't add the directory where javac lives, you'll get that behavior.
[08:23] <feugan3333> bbrazil: Thanks for your help, rp_filter is the spoofing protection in the kernel, right? Where would I find the documentation?
[08:24] <dr_willis> sethk,  heh. :P  reading at that url  - it has ooodles of info... Moe then i can handle. :) i just apt-get isntalled it and ran sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:24] <shawnr_> sethk, i did a search, the only thing i found was this: /usr/share/vim/vim64/compiler/javac.vim
[08:24] <werdna_>  [ Large Earthquake:]  M 5.0, New Britain region, Papua New Guinea http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/usrqav.php
[08:24] <bbrazil> feugan3333: no sure, try 'man proc'
[08:25] <bbrazil> feugan3333: *not
[08:25] <bbrazil> feugan3333: rp_filter will work fine as long as you have symmetric routing
[08:25] <sethk> shawnr_, that's not what you need
[08:25] <popupman> can anyone help me ><. first time using linux and cant figure out hwo to install the ati drivers
[08:26] <snoops> are you following a guide popupman?
[08:26] <shawnr_> sethk, thats all the search found for 'javac'
[08:26] <feugan3333> bbrazil: Thanks
[08:26] <sethk> shawnr_, ok, eclipse then is using a java compiler with a different name
[08:26] <eku> hi,  small problem : i do "sudo startx -- :1 -layout twinview" to get another x server to use tv ... when i kill the :1, the :0 display isn't recognized anymore
[08:26] <popupman>  i was trying and it said it installed right.. but OpenGL stil isnt working
[08:26] <sethk> shawnr_, you need to install sun's java/linux sdk.
[08:26] <digitalhav0c> i can't get my ati 9000igp working in ubuntu
[08:26] <sethk> shawnr_, dr_willis what's the way to install sun's java using apt-get?
[08:27] <digitalhav0c> with 3d accelaration
[08:27] <digitalhav0c> :(
[08:27] <shawnr_> sethk, i did already... i THINK
[08:27] <sethk> shawnr_, if you did, then javac would be there.
[08:27] <sethk> shawnr_, possibly you didn't install the "dev" part?
[08:27] <shawnr_> maybe not
[08:27] <popupman> snoops, i thought i had it right but OpenGL isnt working. so i dont think i did it right :(
[08:27] <Choclo> hi all
[08:27] <snoops> popupman if you go in terminal "glxinfo | grep -i rendering" does it say direct rendering is enabled?
[08:28] <sethk> shawnr_, start synaptic, and do a search for java dev (java space dev)
[08:28] <popupman> snoops, let me check
[08:28] <sethk> walking the dog, brb, hopefully.
[08:28] <shawnr_> sethl, wait i think i just installed the JRE
[08:28] <shawnr_> sethk, wait i think i just installed the JRE
[08:28] <sethk> shawnr_, ok, then that explains it
[08:28] <popupman> snoops, it says that it is not enabled
[08:28] <Choclo> anyone knows where can I configure grub?=
[08:29] <sethk> shawnr_, install the entire sdk.  the jre includes java, but not javac
[08:29] <Scorpmoon> lamego, in network/interfaces, do I need to type auto eth0:1 aswell when I do 2 IP's ?
[08:29] <sethk> Choclo, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:29] <exs> Hey guys, I have this idea for ubuntu, but it's not software relaed or anything, it's on the financial side of things.
[08:29] <Scorpmoon> or can I leave that out
[08:29] <exs> related*
[08:29] <shawnr_> sethk, from synaptic?
[08:29] <snoops> popupman okay.. try this guide
[08:29] <iter> exs: spill it
[08:29] <snoops> popupman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-5ead174a0b3294527486cd4d71ded66b40003f25
[08:29] <popupman> thanks snoops
[08:29] <lamego> minerale, Scorpmoon yes you do, it is just as it is a different eth device
[08:29] <sethk> shawnr_, that's the easiest way, yes
[08:29] <Scorpmoon> ok
[08:30] <exs> iter:  Well, I've wrote it up in open office, so I'm not going to put it here. I was looking for a section o nthe forums but I see no appropriate category to put it in
[08:31] <PhUrl> PhUrl: how can i calm apt down about packages i imported from debian into ubuntu, it want a specifc version of the compiler. but i dont need it. so i want to tell apt to stop complaining. how can i do that? please? :)
[08:31] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  has to be one of the BEST done wiki pages i have seen for Ubuntu/Kubuntu in a LONG time.
[08:31] <dr_willis> :P
[08:31] <PhUrl>  openmpi-bin: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.0) but 1:4.0.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed
[08:31] <PhUrl>                Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.0) but 4.0.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed
[08:32] <unio> how do i switch to root? i tried sudo root and su root, multiple times, but authentication is denied. i know it's the right password (or, atleast, the password I think it is -- there's not a default pass is there?), unless i'm capable of making 50 typos in a row (which I'm not :P)
[08:32] <feugan3333> bbrazil: I don't think rp_filter is enabled by default.
[08:32] <iter> unio: sudo -s
[08:32] <unio> ah, thanks =D
[08:32] <iter> you can also do sudo bash of course
[08:33] <dr_willis> sudo hot-babe
[08:33] <unio> dr_willis: lol
[08:33] <dr_willis> unio,  but thats not a standard package now a days, :(
[08:34] <FantasticFoo> after trying to install compiz, i get some kinda "kernel panic" crap at bootup
[08:34] <FantasticFoo> anyone know how i can restore my system to an earlier state?
[08:34] <feugan3333> How did you know I have a hot-babe program?
[08:34] <iter> wife 1.0
[08:34] <Ropechoborra> !paste
[08:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:35] <eku> hi,  small problem : i do "sudo startx -- :1 -layout twinview" to get another x server to use tv ... when i kill the :1, the :0 display isn't recognized anymore
[08:36] <poopsock> Anyone have a fast download link for the 6.06 alternate iso for amd 64?
[08:36] <dravas> I had to reinstall Ubuntu to dual Boot it eith Windows and now some things say in Add/remove that they may not support my system's arcitecture
[08:37] <dravas> ghelp
[08:37] <poopsock> in europe then :)
[08:37] <unio> :O there's a "science" package! hallejuah! (or however it's spelled) /me loves ubuntu forever and ever :)
[08:37] <dravas> I had to reinstall Ubuntu to dual Boot it eith Windows and now some things say in Add/remove that they may not support my system's arcitecture, like Zsnes
[08:37] <halorgium> poopsock: have you looked on the ubuntu site? :P
[08:38] <poopsock> yea they all pretty slow :/
[08:38] <dravas> -_-
[08:38] <halorgium> poopsock: i'd try the bittorrent
[08:39] <halorgium> at least then you're getting it from multiple people/places at once
[08:39] <poopsock> yea im looking for a torrent for it now thanks
[08:39] <dravas> I had to reinstall Ubuntu to dual Boot it eith Windows and now some things say in Add/remove that they may not support my system's arcitecture, like Zsnes
[08:39] <leak> !ati
[08:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:39] <digitalhav0c> leak it doesn't work :(
[08:39] <digitalhav0c> ati drivers suck
[08:39] <[b] urk> ati suck
[08:40] <BrokenSegue> are there any known issues with the XP ext3 driver, because ubuntu keeps complaining about fs erros on bootup?
[08:40] <dr_willis> sucking sucks
[08:40] <halorgium> poopsock: they are on the site
[08:40] <poopsock> yea just found it thanks
[08:40] <dravas> I have no issues with the ext3 driver
[08:40] <unio> brb, i'm going to try out irssi :)
[08:40] <dr_willis> BrokenSegue,  ive seen a few isues with that as well. I think it depends on how xp closes/reboots/crashes
[08:40] <dr_willis> BrokenSegue,  never seen the hd get messed up hpwever.
[08:41] <dravas> Someone wanna help me
[08:41] <dravas> I had to reinstall Ubuntu to dual Boot it eith Windows and now some things say in Add/remove that they may not support my system's arcitecture, like Zsnes
[08:41] <BrokenSegue> dr willis:exactly, whenever xp crashes i get this problem (sadly xp crashes a lot)
[08:41] <CrazyDoode>  i just got the ati installer to actually build the debs for my ubunutu system and it looks like it just dumped them in the same dir as the .run is located.. not being a true deb head, i'm not sure what to do next..
[08:41] <dr_willis> BrokenSegue,  yep. :(
[08:41] <BrokenSegue> dr willis:alright, thanks for the advice
[08:41] <dr_willis> dravas,  you installed the 64bit ubuntu?
[08:41] <dravas> No
[08:41] <dravas> 32
[08:41] <dr_willis> odd.. zsnes should work.
[08:41] <dravas> I dont have a 64 bit processor
[08:41] <blocky> can someone tell me how to resize my root partition
[08:42] <dr_willis> just install the thing fromthe shell. :)
[08:42] <CrazyDoode> blocky, from the live cd, but it can foobar it.
[08:42] <dravas> It just says for Java and like the SNES emus that my system arcitecture isnt supported
[08:42] <blocky> how so?
[08:42] <CrazyDoode> how so .. from the livecd or foobar?
[08:42] <blocky> foobar
[08:42] <dravas> and I had them on a previous install
[08:43] <CrazyDoode> render existing filesystem unreadable.
[08:43] <blocky> :|
[08:43] <blocky> is that if i fuck it up
[08:43] <blocky> or is that a possibility either way
[08:43] <CrazyDoode> it's just in the numbers.
[08:43] <blocky> btw its my home partition not the root
[08:44] <blocky> my mistake
[08:44] <CrazyDoode> whenever you resize, the potential is there.
[08:44] <blocky> i have a 250gb drive split into halves
[08:44] <MrKeuner> hi, I am having problem with the battery running time with thinkpad r52. it looks like it does not go for more than 1.5 hours, although the laptop is fairly new. Is there something that I should do in dapper?
[08:44] <blocky> one for winxp and one for /home on reiserfs
[08:45] <blocky> and i want to nuke the xp and give the whole drive to /home
[08:45] <dr_willis> resizing a reiserfs can be an issue i hear
[08:45] <snoops> I'm looking for an application which would allow me to do complex math equations and have it actually spit out answers - rather than getting overflows and such because of the large numbers I'm dealing with. Could someone recommend an app for that?
[08:45] <blocky> D:
[08:45] <blocky> would it be safer to copy the whole thing to an xp box over SAMBA, reformat the drive, and copy it all back?
[08:46] <argument> what do i need to install to get PHP to work with apache etc?
[08:46] <argument> i installed the php5 "metapackage" but that really didn't do jack?
[08:46] <dr_willis> blocky,  or check out the mondo/mindi backup/restore system
[08:46] <halorgium> argument: libapache2-mod-php5
[08:46] <jrib> !lamp > argument
[08:46] <argument> halorgium, there we go :)
[08:46] <argument> halorgium, good thing that was soooo obvious :)
[08:47] <deltab> snoops: how complex
[08:47] <deltab> snoops: for arithmetic, you can use bc
[08:47] <mike1> how do I remove a program I installed via dpkg????  I installed the latest Kino and I need to revert
[08:48] <argument> nope
[08:48] <jrib> mike1: dpkg -r
[08:48] <argument> libapache2-mod-php5 is already installed
[08:48] <jrib> argument: did you enable the php5 module for apache?
[08:48] <snoops> deltab mainly arithmetic for the moment.. but really looking for something with a nice gui
[08:48] <blocky> dr_willis, would I have permission problems if i backed up and restored using an NTFS on XP over samba
[08:48] <argument> jrib, a2enmod php ?
[08:49] <jrib> argument: a2enmod php5
[08:49] <deltab> snoops: there are packages such as Octave
[08:49] <dr_willis> blocky,  i am betting yes.
[08:49] <markus_df> yae galera!
[08:49] <blocky> argh
[08:49] <mike1> jrib: doesn't work
[08:49] <shawnr_> sethk, there are a few options... any one over the other
[08:49] <argument> "module is already enabled!" so says the output
[08:49] <porcho> does the cherrypy pkg available via apt-get include the python modules?
[08:49] <blocky> has anyone here had issues resizing reiserfs before?
[08:49] <jrib> mike1: what doesn't work?
[08:49] <snoops> isn't octave also a cli app deltab?
[08:49] <deltab> oh, yes
[08:50] <deltab> (apparently)
[08:50] <jrib> argument: right now your browser is just downloading php files right?
[08:50] <stray_77> argument, check http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p6
[08:50] <lostinc> I get errors when I run synaptic. After it installs the packages it tells me the following:: E: clvm: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3
[08:50] <lostinc> E: redhat-cluster-suite: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[08:50] <lostinc> Anyone have any idea how to fix it so I dont get this error?
[08:50] <mike1> jrib: I rN BOTH -R AND --PURGE AND kINO 9 STILL RUNS..
[08:50] <halorgium> snoops: bc
[08:50] <mike1> sorry about the caps
[08:51] <snoops> deltab I know there are large products to do all this stuff - but generally need to pay for them and being closed source..
[08:51] <contro> !ru
[08:51] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[08:51] <halorgium> arbitrary precision calculator
[08:51] <jrib> mike1: you did 'dpkg -r kino' ?
[08:51] <mike1> jrib: yes
[08:51] <sethk> snoops, there is some free software that does it.  I forget the name at the moment but google should find it for you.
[08:52] <jrib> mike1: did it return any output?
[08:52] <mike1> jrib: it says "ignoring request to remove kino not installed"
[08:53] <mike1> jrib: it still runs
[08:53] <jrib> mike1: dpkg -l '*kino*' | grep '^ii'
[08:53] <deltab> snoops: there's a number of mathematics packages in ubuntu
[08:54] <deltab> you can install education-mathematics to install them, or find the individual ones
[08:54] <deltab> I don't know any of them, sorry
[08:54] <mike1> jrib: that ran but did nothing kino still runs?  wierd???
[08:54] <jrib> mike1: well it should list installed packages that match kino, did it return anything?
[08:54] <snoops> deltab okay I'll try the meta package and play around with what's there
[08:54] <argument> oh well, that was just my own retardedness with permissions, thx tho jrib and halorgium...  now i know a bit more about Ubuntu LAMP :)
[08:54] <snoops> thanks
[08:55] <mike1> sudo dpkg -l kino* shows nothing, if I try to reinstall kino 8.1 via synaptic it still runs 9
[08:55] <blocky> is it possible to stream the output of tar to a remote samba share?
[08:55] <heyjoe52> how can i remove a file from a directory and place it in another one through my terminal?
[08:55] <deltab> snoops: also http://freshmeat.net/browse/98/
[08:56] <dr_willis> heyjoe52,  the 'mv' command is for move
[08:56] <stefg> heyjoe52: man mv
[08:56] <jrib> mike1: can you run the exact command like this:  dpkg -l '*kino*' | grep '^ii'
[08:56] <jrib> mike1: or do you remember the name of the deb you installed?
[08:56] <blocky> dr_willis, tar files will retain directory hierarchy and permissions, correct?
[08:57] <deltab> blocky: right
[08:57] <sethk> blocky, mostly.  for fully, use --preserve
[08:57] <dr_willis> blocky,  well for a ntfs partition - i dont think sp
[08:57] <blocky> why not?
[08:57] <jrib> mike1: actually, just do 'dpkg -S $(which kino)'  that should get us the answer too, without the quotes
[08:57] <tuxedup> I dont suppose anyone has the tango icon theme for kde do they.  I tried to do it my self but it complained about imagemick
[08:58] <deltab> oh, ntfs
[08:58] <blocky> no
[08:58] <tuxedup> imagemagick*
[08:58] <contro> help me
[08:58] <heyjoe52> ok can i get an example on how my command would look like using the mv file?
[08:58] <blocky> I want to tar my home directory, and then copy the single tar file to an ntfs partition
[08:58] <dr_willis> mv foo bar
[08:58] <sethk> blocky, that's ok
[08:58] <deltab> heyjoe52: mv olddir/name newdir/
[08:58] <dr_willis> google for some shell tutoruals :)
[08:58] <sethk> blocky, he meant if you tar up the ntfs directory you might not get what you are expecting
[08:58] <mike1> sudoijrib: I ran it your way, my way and I used the exact package name (from the waste basket) no luck.... ? what to do
[08:58] <stefg> !fuse
[08:58] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:58] <blocky> gotcha
[08:58] <sethk> blocky, but storing the tar file in ntfs is not a problem
[08:58] <heyjoe52> thanks, i'll try that!
[08:59] <jrib> mike1: actually, just do 'dpkg -S $(which kino)'  that should get us the answer too, without the quotes
[08:59] <blocky> so I just gotta figure out how to mount the samba share into my regular filesystem
[08:59] <blocky> tar doesnt support samba i assume
[08:59] <blocky> lol
[09:00] <blocky> i mean as an output heh
[09:00] <stefg> !info smbfs
[09:00] <ubotu> smbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 369 kB, installed size 888 kB
[09:00] <blocky> makes less and less sense as i think about it
[09:00] <blocky> thanks
[09:00] <mike1> jrib: dpkg -S..... says "/usr/local/bin/kino not found"
[09:00] <halorgium> heh, tar zcf foo.tar.gz cifs://joey/files/ :P
[09:00] <dr_willis> mondo/mindi can backup a whole partition at a time. :P
[09:00] <blocky> cifs?
[09:00] <dr_willis> halorgium,  or use that FUSE to mount the samba shares.. or heck - just MOUNT them. :P
[09:01] <Aagni> hello all
[09:01] <blocky> dr_willis, but can it do it over samba
[09:01] <blocky> cause thats really my only option
[09:01] <blocky> i dont even have a dvd burner
[09:01] <jrib> mike1: you said you installed through a deb right, you didn't manually compile to install it?
[09:01] <dr_willis> a mounted samba share - is just another directory
[09:01] <halorgium> dr_willis: the thing that i typed doesn't work, i was dreaming :)
[09:01] <dr_willis> thats thejoy of linuc
[09:01] <dr_willis> thats the joy of linux
[09:01] <Aagni> i was trying to enable indic input support on my box ..
[09:01] <Aagni> for hindi/marathi
[09:02] <mike1> jrib: opps... I compiled it
[09:02] <Rawplayer> anyone in here used raid during a server install?
[09:02] <blocky> dr_willis, why is mondo better than tar?
[09:02] <jrib> mike1: ok, did you just use the 'make install' command to install it?
[09:03] <mike1> jrib: yes... I forgot that makes a big diff.  I still don't know what to do :)
[09:03] <varsendaggr> hey is there anyone who can help me install gmailfs   and get it working?
[09:04] <mike1> jrib: I killed the directories that I ran the "make install" command does that matter?
[09:04] <jrib> mike1: you can run 'make uninstall' from the same place you ran 'make install'.  That /might/ work.  In the future if you must compile, consider using checkinstall
[09:04] <jrib> mike1: what do you mean by "killed the directories", what directories?
[09:04] <blocky> what sort of compression ratio does bzip2 or gzip provide
[09:04] <eobanb> it depends on what you're compressing, blocky.
[09:05] <mike1> cd D*
[09:05] <blocky> would the tradeoff in compression time be made up in transfer time over my LAN
[09:05] <blocky> the biggest component, size wise, is video and mp3s
[09:05] <gleesond> anyone know if there is a good tool for getting data off a cd... the buildt in gnome tool is not very robust
[09:05] <eobanb> blocky, probably not.
[09:05] <acon> what rss readers do you recomend=
[09:05] <eobanb> blocky, it's not worth it, especially with already-compressed media like mp3.
[09:06] <blocky> im gonna tar my home directory
[09:06] <dr_willis> blocky,  its a  backup/restore system that is designed to do differnet things. :P depends on youyr needs
[09:06] <mike1> jrib: I deleted the directories that I complied kino in on my desktop.  the program resides somewhere else after complie I think in a .hidden home folder.  I'm looking
[09:06] <blocky> yea dr_willis i really only need to do this one time
[09:06] <blocky> im nuking my xp partition and giving a full 250gb to /home
[09:06] <blocky> :D
[09:06] <eobanb> blocky, what's the speed of your network?
[09:07] <lyy> anyone have a dell m1210 xps system?
[09:07] <dr_willis> blocky,  nuke to me implies DELETE - not backup
[09:07] <dr_willis> :P
[09:07] <blocky> this is correct
[09:07] <FarrisG> font size="3">I have a set of backup scripts I've been using for over a year, with great results. I recently moved the whole process over to a different, nearly-identical box, and I'm seeing a huge decrease in performance. An incremental backup that used to take a couple of hours is now going on hour 48 and not even half-finished. Network utilization is not even remotely saturated, CPU is low, RAM is 10% utilized. But the load average on the box runni
[09:07] <blocky> :-)
[09:07] <argument> does .htaccess need specific permissions? i've got it as 644 right now? and how can i check for the existence/status of mod_rewrite (i'm pretty sure it's enabled)
[09:07] <dato> i cant see videos or multimedia files in the explorer , what must i do?
[09:07] <blocky> eobanb, 100mbs
[09:07] <eobanb> dr_willis, he's going to resize /home, therefore he wants to back it up
[09:07] <eobanb> blocky, don't bother gzipping or bzipping anything.  seriously.
[09:08] <eobanb> especially not mp3s
[09:08] <blocky> yea im just gonna tar
[09:08] <eobanb> you are going to save virtually no space
[09:08] <blocky> i got smbfs working now
[09:08] <blocky> so i just have to transfer 90gb of data
[09:08] <blocky> heh
[09:09] <dato> i cant see videos or multimedia files in the explorer , what must i do?
[09:09] <mike1> jrib: any clue on how I kill this kino install?
[09:09] <^Anna^> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[09:09] <varsendaggr> !netsplit
[09:09] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[09:09] <nalioth> lovely
[09:09] <noclip> hehe
[09:10] <Kragnerac> Ziggy.
[09:10] <noclip> anyway.... hi all! i've got a question about apt-get. you know how synaptic gives you a nice "history" of installed, upgraded, and removed software packages? (how) can i get the same thing with apt-get?
[09:10] <eobanb> varsendaggr, that was not a netsplit, that was the dcc send exploit
[09:10] <eobanb> !ops
[09:10] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[09:10] <dr_willis> and you just did it again!
[09:10] <dr_willis> :P
[09:10] <varsendaggr> ohhh
[09:10] <nalioth> eobanb: yes yes yes, the culprit has been k-lined (Read the /quits )
[09:10] <^Anna^ThaKILLA> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[09:11] <eobanb> oy vey
[09:11] <varsendaggr> what does klined mean?
[09:11] <dr_willis> Oi-Vey!
[09:11] <nalioth> varsendaggr: means banned from the network
[09:11] <grayman> isnt that gline?
[09:11] <varsendaggr> forever?
[09:11] <grayman> kline is only from one server
[09:12] <nalioth> grayman: they propogate
[09:12] <grayman> ah
[09:12] <^Anna^ThaKILLA> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[09:12] <crimsun> argh
[09:12] <eobanb> grayman, freenode doesn't work like most IRC networks...it's all centrally-managed
[09:12] <Sikon> how do I disable the touchpad on a laptop?
[09:12] <grayman> yeah i see
[09:12] <Shinzetsu> Hi guys, im trying to install something using a howto and it says make a file with this code: how do I go about doing it? gedit? nano?
[09:13] <Aagni> Shinzetsu: use whatevers your favourite. i would use Vi
[09:13] <eobanb> install something, a file, with a code.... Shinzetsu, could you be any LESS specific
[09:14] <unio> i use pico, Shinzetsu, it's noob-friendly
[09:14] <david_> Sikon do your mouse freeze up
[09:14] <Shinzetsu> sorry
[09:14] <HanzZ> ok.. I have one thing... Why Ubuntu writes Grub on /dev/hda without any questions?
[09:14] <UbuntuFan> hi
[09:14] <UbuntuFan> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[09:15] <stray_77> hanzz, so it can boot
[09:15] <borelia> bootloader needs to be on the first partiton on system drive
[09:15] <noclip> (...na-naa-nanananana-naaaaa...)
[09:15] <w30> Shinzetsu, you want a plain text editor. gedit will work fine, stay away from something like office suites
[09:16] <HanzZ> stray_77: when i install on /dev/hdb... :)
[09:16] <_gpg_> i want to set up a general usega repositorie, able to be acceded by every one using the PC, where ca i put it ?
[09:16] <jatt> does anybody here got the .dmrc file has incorrect permissions problem when logging into gnome (dapper)?
[09:16] <haasteem> hi, i've been having problems with my sounds, and now it has (finally) become clear that the soundcard files were not installed, i.e. i miss a whole lot of stuff in /dev/snd (only timer is there). how or why could this have happened during an upgrade?
[09:16] <dato> i cant see videos or multimedia files in the explorer , what must i do?
[09:16] <haasteem> all the modules are loaded by the way
[09:17] <stray_77> yes hanzz, if it didnt install on /dev/hda, it wouldnt boot into ubuntu
[09:17] <HanzZ> stray_77: or i have /dev/hda and i install on /dev/sda... but ubuntu writes grub on /dev/hda...
[09:17] <eobanb> dato, can you rephrase your question
[09:17] <dato> :S
[09:18] <unio> dato: "explorer" as in web browser?
[09:18] <dato> yes
[09:18] <dato> mozilla
[09:18] <dato> firefox
[09:18] <unio> you need to install software to run those files
[09:19] <dato> what sofwatre?
[09:19] <dato> software*
[09:19] <w30> I need to change a partition label only, not format it. How can I do that? I changed it with Gparted from / to core3 but gparted won't let me change it back to "/".
[09:19] <stray_77> hanzz, what would you prefer to have happen?
[09:19] <cryptic^zazeem> #crypt1c
[09:20] <unio> dato; what type of files aren't playing? (ie., .swf, .wav?)
[09:20] <dato> i dont know
[09:20] <dato> i cant see videos
[09:20] <cryptic^zazeem> woops sorry didnt know it amsgs other servers
[09:20] <dato> or some multimedia pics
[09:20] <eobanb> !restricted
[09:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:20] <cryptic^zazeem> is there a way to get icensemble audio to mix?
[09:20] <unio> dato: do you know html?
[09:20] <HanzZ> stray_77: ask the user......
[09:20] <cryptic^zazeem> it steals my game sound when it is used for mic
[09:21] <dato> yes
[09:21] <eobanb> dato, please see the links above.
[09:21] <unio> CTRL + U (views the source in firefox), and check to see what the file extensions are for the multimedia that isn't playing.
[09:21] <HanzZ> stray_77: imho isn't good, when user install on /dev/sda and ubuntu rewrites MBR on /dev/hda...
[09:21] <dato> they are .swf
[09:21] <dato> eobanb,
[09:21] <nalioth> hi lilo
[09:21] <stray_77> hanzz, you can always restore your mbr and reinstall grub anywhere you like.
[09:22] <eobanb> ahoy lilo.
[09:22] <haasteem> hi, i've been having problems with my sounds, and now it has (finally) become clear that the soundcard files were not installed, i.e. i miss a whole lot of stuff in /dev/snd (only timer is there). how or why could this have happened during an upgrade?... all the modules are loaded by the way
[09:22] <stefg> !sound
[09:22] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:22] <unio> dato: you need a flash player then =)
[09:22] <eobanb> dato, the wiki link that ubotu said will help you with flash
[09:22] <dato> ok
[09:22] <dato> thanks mans
[09:22] <sethk> HanzZ, that's foolish.  there is only one mbr that matters, the one on /dev/hda
[09:22] <Aagni> dato: try this link http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[09:23] <elubie> Hi! I need some noob help. I have a new widescreen monitor and I need to change screen resolution. The one I need is not shown in the system->settings...
[09:23] <eobanb> !fixrez
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixrez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <eobanb> !fixres
[09:23] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:23] <Aagni> dato: on the same page you should be able to find other stuff like installing support for wmv and other formats
[09:23] <stray_77> hanzz, what bootloader do you want to use?
[09:24] <eobanb> elubie, see that link.
[09:24] <elubie> eobannb: thks, checking the link
[09:24] <Corporal_Dirge> elubie, is it listed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[09:25] <HanzZ> starkruzr: grub.. but on /dev/sda by default:)
[09:25] <stray_77> but then it wont boot
[09:25] <BSG75> hiya, setting up my wife's laptop so this is one of those things that just need to work... what works better for browsing the web .. totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin  or mozilla-mplayer .. any help will be much appreciated :)
[09:25] <sethk> HanzZ, that makes no sense at all
[09:26] <sethk> HanzZ, by that logic, if you install ubuntu on /dev/hdb1 you would use the mbr on /dev/hdb
[09:26] <Aagni> BSG75: the one with FF
[09:26] <sethk> HanzZ, which is obvious nonsense.  such an idea about sda is equally obviously nonsense
[09:26] <stray_77> you would need an app like bootpart to add your grub boot partition to ntldr's boot.ini
[09:26] <wasabi> You'd put the MBR on whichever hard drive your Bios expects it on.
[09:26] <unio> sorry, didn't realise closing Terminal would close x-chat too heh (i ran xchat-gnome from Terminal >_<)
[09:27] <wasabi> Usually the first one in the system.
[09:27] <wasabi> Regardless of where grub's install files or Ubuntu are.
[09:27] <sethk> wasabi, right, exactly
[09:27] <sethk> wasabi, and the fact that someone chooses sda as the ubuntu root partition drive changes nothing
[09:27] <_Cartman_> I have a Smart Link modem on my laptop. How can I make it work? (I do not have Internet on Ubuntu)
[09:27] <Marex> HanzZ, here?
[09:27] <Marex> hi all
[09:27] <BSG75> btw, thanks to whoever thought of having the alternate livecd.. my laptop couldn't install from the normal cd
[09:28] <three> is anyone here using Gaim 2.0 Beta 3?
[09:28] <DigitalNinja> Is there a way to monitor a 3ware sata raid card?
[09:28] <HanzZ> sethk: it's another situation... whet you install ubuntu on /dev/sda, then bootloader will be on /dev/hda......
[09:28] <wasabi> DigitalNinja: With 3wares software, yes.
[09:28] <HanzZ> sethk: by default...
[09:28] <justin_> Hello, I am curious what filesystem Ubuntu/xubuntu - uses by default?
[09:28] <DigitalNinja> wasabi: How do I get that?
[09:29] <HanzZ> sethk: and this is wrong i think...
[09:29] <wasabi> DigitalNinja: One would assume from 3ware.
[09:29] <sethk> HanzZ, no, it isn't wrong
[09:29] <sethk> HanzZ, what you don't understand is that it is _not_ a different situation.
[09:29] <three> justin: what were you wnting to know
[09:29] <DigitalNinja> wasabi: I know that much but I couldn't find it on their website
[09:29] <MrKeuner> hi, I am having problem with the battery running time with thinkpad r52. it looks like it does not go for more than 1.5 hours, although the laptop is fairly new. Is there something that I should do in dapper?
[09:29] <sethk> HanzZ, the only  mbr that matters is the one the bios uses to boot the machine.
[09:29] <wasabi> DigitalNinja: it's under their software/drivers section.
[09:29] <DigitalNinja> wasabi: Thanks
[09:29] <justin_> three: What is the default filesystem that Ubuntu uses ? - EXT3?
[09:29] <Corporal_Dirge> Anyone know if there's a chat client that allows you to message IP addresses?
[09:29] <wasabi> Service ANd Support > Software
[09:30] <Marex> sethk, you can point bios to boot whereever you want
[09:30] <sethk> HanzZ, it makes no difference which piece of hardware you happen to choose to put anything on, be it linux or ubuntu or any other o/s
[09:30] <BSG75>  totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin: Depends: totem-gstreamer (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu4) but 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[09:30] <BSG75> E: Broken packages .. anyone know howto resolve this?
[09:30] <three> justin: yeah it uses ext3
[09:30] <sethk> Marex, that depends.  in general, that's not a true statement.
[09:30] <rancidpickles> MrKeuner, make sure laptop-mode-tools is enabled
[09:30] <sethk> Marex, some bios have the ability to choose some, but _not_ all, devices to boot.
[09:30] <ndee> hello there, is there something like spotlight from mac osx for ubuntu?
[09:30] <justin_> Alright
[09:30] <_Cartman_> does stand by and hibernation work on Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard (I want to buy that motherboard)?
[09:30] <wasabi> ndee: Beagle.
[09:30] <ndee> wasabi: cool, thx
[09:30] <Marex> sethk, but it's not ok to overwrite mbr on wrong disk
[09:31] <sethk> Marex, it's not the wrong disk
[09:31] <sethk> Marex, it's the right disk
[09:31] <Marex> hda != sda
[09:31] <sethk> Marex, I didn't say it was
[09:31] <sethk> Marex, I said sda is the wrong disk for installing the mbr, and hda is the correct disk for installing the mbr
[09:31] <Marex> sethk, if HanzZ is instaling system on sda and installer overwrites bootlaoder on hda than it's not ok
[09:31] <Marex> sethk, and what if there is no hda?
[09:31] <sethk> Marex, there is no difference in installing the mbr on hda after an install to hdb, or installing mbr to hda after an install to sda
[09:32] <sethk> Marex, you can choose not to install the bootloader.  but if you install it, there is only one place for it to go.
[09:32] <sethk> Marex, if the machine boots from sda, then sda is the correct disk.
[09:32] <Marex> sethk, that machine does
[09:32] <sethk> Marex, the point is that there is a default boot device, and that is the place to install onto the mbr.
[09:32] <Marex> sethk, then why is it written to hda?
[09:32] <Marex> isnt it a bit stupid?
[09:32] <sethk> Marex, because hda is the default boot device
[09:32] <wasabi> This argument is stupid now.
[09:33] <sethk> Marex, no, it's the correct thing to do.
[09:33] <MrKeuner> rancidpickles/ it is installed. Does that mean that it is already enabled?
[09:33] <pepsi> what makes some programs look different than others? is it because they use gtk1 or something? they look darker and blockier and just "older" in general
[09:33] <BSG75> anyone installed the totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin and know how to resolve the dependancy?
[09:33] <Marex> sethk, if you can boot from sda then why do you want to put bootloader on hda?
[09:33] <sethk> if it weren't the correct thing to do, then nobody would object to doing it.  :)
[09:33] <wasabi> pepsi: What programs?
[09:33] <Marex> sethk, what if there is no hda?
[09:33] <argument> wasabi, i am most certainly not retarded!
[09:33] <sethk> Marex, because it is the _default_ boot device
[09:33] <argument> :P
[09:33] <wasabi> argument: hahaha. nice name.
[09:33] <pepsi> wasabi, im using gnucash right now, but ive seen other programs that do it too
[09:33] <sethk> Marex, the correct place is the _default_ boot device
[09:33] <MrKeuner> !help
[09:33] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:33] <Marex> correct place is sda
[09:33] <Marex> sethk,
[09:34] <stray_77> who wants to go into the bios every time you wanna boot into your other os?
[09:34] <sethk> Marex, no
[09:34] <wasabi> pepsi: gnucash uses gtk1, yes.
[09:34] <Marex> sda is default boot device
[09:34] <BSG75> pepsi: that's the joy of using gnome .. even though it has gotten a LOT better in standardizing it's looks
[09:34] <Marex> sethk, ^
[09:34] <pepsi> is there any way to customize how gtk1 stuff looks?
[09:34] <sethk> Marex, I've not seen a box with both hda and sda where sda is the default boot device.
[09:34] <wasabi> pepsi: sure, but it won't look much better.
[09:34] <sethk> Marex, and I'm skeptical whether any such thing exists.
[09:34] <rancidpickles> MrKeuner ...check /etc/laptop-mode/laptopmode.conf and change the settings to activate it
[09:34] <Marex> sethk, wanna visit me? :)
[09:34] <pepsi> for the most part, i just want to make the fonts smaller
[09:34] <Malachi> What's a good CD label maker for linux?
[09:34] <BSG75> pepsi: what wasabi said :)
[09:35] <sethk> Marex, only if you pay the carfare  :)
[09:35] <Marex> sethk, I have box - sata hdd and guess how kernel handles this stuff :)
[09:35] <HanzZ> sethk: my /dev/hda has 500MB and /dev/sda 80GB... where can i install ubuntu?
[09:35] <Marex> sethk, hda = cdrom
[09:35] <BSG75> anyone?? come on guys .. I have to get this done before my wife find out I broke her laptop :-P
[09:35] <jenda> sethk, Marex, how about Marex invites me for dinner and i testify? ;) Can't be too far.
[09:35] <pepsi> how can i change the default font size it uses?
[09:35] <sethk> HanzZ, you can install anywhere you like
[09:35] <argument> what group do i set to allow apache to access my folders/files? apache? apache2? www-data? www?
[09:35] <sethk> HanzZ, that has nothing to do with which boot sector should be modified
[09:35] <Marex> jenda, hehe ;)
[09:35] <tepus6> can i set a web page as the background in ubuntu?
[09:35] <stefg> !info gtk-theme-switch
[09:35] <ubotu> gtk-theme-switch: GTK+ theme switching utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.4 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 144 kB
[09:36] <sethk> Marex, if hda is a cdrom then nothing will be written to hda anyway.
[09:36] <bbrazil> argument: www-data, but usually you'd just leave it world-readable
[09:36] <Marex> sethk, and I have sata disk from which I normally boot
[09:36] <Marex> sda
[09:36] <argument> bbrazil, ummm, no 777 is evil
[09:36] <Marex> sethk, (I'm on debian)
[09:36] <zoidberg> hey guys i have a question
[09:36] <squidgy> Hi.  I have an HP laptop, and the function key combo that's supposed to direct output to an external monitor (Fn+F4) doesn't have any effect.  Is there a way to do this manually from the console?
[09:36] <argument> bbrazil, i'm talking write perms tho
[09:36] <bbrazil> argument: world-readable, not world-writable
[09:36] <Marex> sethk, then ... hda as default device is really bad idea
[09:36] <pepsi> stefg, thanks
[09:37] <zoidberg> i'm running Ubuntu Badger on a G3 Powerbook 333mhz 64 mbram with the FLUXBOX window manager
[09:37] <Marex> HanzZ, hmm ... hehe ... my palmz71 boots from something like sda too :D
[09:37] <bbrazil> argument: to be honset, when a webser is involved there isn't much different between 777 and 775
[09:37] <sethk> Marex, if the installer is going to have a default not based on device type, the vast majority of times hda will be the correct choice.  and you can, of course, override this.
[09:37] <jenda> HanzZ, Marex Czech #ubuntu takeover today? Why didn't anyone tell me? </ot>
[09:37] <zoidberg> i was wondering if i should upgrade to dapper on this machine?
[09:37] <sethk> zoidberg, no
[09:37] <stray_77> marex, comon now, we both know you cant write a mbr to your cdrom during an install
[09:37] <sethk> zoidberg, if you are wondering, then no
[09:37] <zoidberg> why is that sethk
[09:37] <sethk> zoidberg, it's still somewhat brittle.  wait a few more weeks
[09:37] <Marex> sethk, what about many ppl with sata drives ... they're still called sda by kernel
[09:38] <Marex> stray_77, I know that too
[09:38] <zoidberg> dapper?
[09:38] <zoidberg> its been out for several months now hasnt it?
[09:38] <eobanb> sethk, what are you talking about
[09:38] <zoidberg> or do u mean for powerpc?
[09:38] <Marex> stray_77, I just say that hda as default device is pretty bad choice
[09:38] <argument> *what*!!!? chgrp www-data templates_c/ ... chgrp: changing group of `templates_c/': Operation not permitted
[09:38] <Marex> or ... hda as device with bootloader
[09:38] <argument> wtf?
[09:38] <sethk> zoidberg,  it always amazes me that, after several hours of person after person having upgrade problems, everyone is surprised by advice to not upgrade yet.
[09:38] <argument> i am the owner and group of the folder currently, why can't i change the group?
[09:39] <Marex> stray_77, you can install on anything you want ... and if your bios supports it you can boot from it
[09:39] <eobanb> sethk, i believe you are confusing dapper and edgy
[09:39] <Marex> hda and sda are most common today
[09:39] <bbrazil> argument: you have to be a member of a group to change a file to that group
[09:39] <sethk> eobanb, no, not at all
[09:39] <MrKeuner> Marex/ check super folder properties
[09:39] <MrKeuner> Marex/ parent folder I mean
[09:39] <sethk> eobanb, I must have talked to 200 people dapper upgrade problems in the last couple of weeks.
[09:39] <BSG75> any advice on howto install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin? :)
[09:39] <squidgy> Does anyone know how to manually direct output to an external monitor on a laptop?  The only way to do it now is to restart X with the monitor plugged in.
[09:39] <sethk> eobanb, for a production system, it is absolutely too early.  for playing around, it's ok
[09:40] <argument> bbrazil, ahhhh
[09:40] <argument> groupadd -a or something right?
[09:40] <Marex> MrKeuner, how do you mean?
[09:40] <bbrazil> argument: useradd user group iirc
[09:40] <stray_77> squidgy, either that or some mysterious key combo to activate it
[09:40] <bbrazil> argument: if it's a one off, just use sudo+chgrp
[09:40] <eobanb> sethk, i doubt a 333 MHz machine with 64 MB of RAM is being used for production of anything really
[09:40] <Corporal_Dirge> squidgy, set it up in xorg.conf
[09:40] <sethk> groupadd is to add a new group to the system
[09:41] <flo__> can someone help me install vmware-olayer? apt-get install gives me thiss error dpkg: errore processando /var/cache/apt/archives/vmware-player_1.0.1-4_i386.deb (--unpack):
[09:41] <sethk> eobanb, by production we mean deployed in a critical area, not what you apparently assumed.
[09:41] <zoidberg> you're right eobanb
[09:41] <bbrazil> argument: *adduser
[09:41] <three> BSG75: ive never installed that one, but I know the Mplayer one works very well, the easiest wy I think to get it is to get Automtix (getautomatix.com)
[09:41] <MrKeuner> Marex/ nevermind I was aiming someone else
[09:41] <argument> derm... useradd user group didn't work
[09:41] <linkslice> how do i burn an iso with cdrecord?
[09:41] <Marex> MrKeuner, np :)
[09:41] <sethk> eobanb, besides, I have many production boxes with even less capability than that
[09:41] <bbrazil> linkslice: cdrecord -v file.iso
[09:41] <zoidberg> sethk, the reason i was asking if i could upgrade to dapper is because some other troubleshooting i want to avoid since i'm on badger
[09:42] <Corporal_Dirge> Anyone know of an app or anything that would allow messaging to an IP outside a LAN
[09:42] <Marex> sethk, have I proofed you that hda is not right place where to put bootloader in 100% of cases?
[09:42] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: what are you trying to do?
[09:42] <eobanb> zoidberg, just for further reference, the shorter name is usually breezy, not badger
[09:42] <sethk> zoidberg, if you know that there is a reason that requires an upgrade, that's different.
[09:42] <sethk> Marex, no.
[09:42] <squidgy> stray_77: the labeled one (blue Fn key + F4) doesn't work.  Corporal_Dirge: I'd like to be able to toggle output with a script or, preferably, a keypress.  I'm happy to edit xorg.conf if you can give me some hints on what to add.
[09:42] <sethk> Marex, if there is going to be a default, and it is not going to be based on the type of device connected to hda, then hda is the correct default.
[09:43] <zoidberg> so what should i do guys...upgrade or not?
[09:43] <Marex> isnt it better to let user select that?
[09:43] <Corporal_Dirge> squidgy, there's a way to set up bioskeys in xorg, but there's issues.
[09:43] <eobanb> zoidberg, i'd say that just upgrading for the sake of upgrading is silly, but if there's some feature or additional hardware support that you'd like or need that's in dapper, and if you have a bit of free time to play around with it to fix small problems, then by all means upgrade
[09:43] <Marex> sethk,
[09:43] <argument> ok how do I *remove* myself from a group?
[09:43] <argument> bbrazil, adduser was it
[09:43] <sethk> Marex, you are saying there shouldn't be a default?  I think many newbies would complain about that.
[09:43] <sethk> argument, usermod
[09:43] <zoidberg> alright then
[09:43] <FarrisG> Is there a way to tell exactly what resource(s) is/are the source of iowait?
[09:43] <Corporal_Dirge> bbrazil, I have someone trying to access me in ftp, I have the IP, but no way to contact them. Also, I've needed somthing like this for a while.
[09:43] <sethk> argument, you can edit /etc/group, but that's not the "right" way
[09:44] <zoidberg> i will download the packages i need to make this mahcine do what i want
[09:44] <argument> sethk, yes i know
[09:44] <zoidberg> so i wont upgrade
[09:44] <Marex> sethk, hmm ... you can let users select ...
[09:44] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: do you want to setup an ftp server?
[09:44] <Marex> sethk, hda by default seems stupid to me cuz it can overwrite bootloader you dont want to be overwritten
[09:44] <sethk> argument, I thought you were asking.
[09:44] <Marex> sethk, maybe some selection should be there
[09:44] <sethk> Marex, no.  either the bootloader is on hda, in which case it is CORRECT, or ...
[09:44] <squidgy> Corporal_Dirge:  On my last HP laptop, they worked fine, but here no dice.  I'm willing to try it just to see if I can get it to work, understanding it may be flakey.  I'll google for bioskeys.  Any other hints?
[09:44] <FantasticFoo> can anybody PLEASE tell me how to restore my system to an earlier state?
[09:44] <argument> sethk, you did say two things, i was only responding to the second
[09:45] <sethk> Marex, and selection IS there.  there is a default, but you can override it
[09:45] <FantasticFoo> e.g., a working state
[09:45] <sethk> argument, ok
[09:45] <Corporal_Dirge> bbrazil, No, I have an FTP. But need a way to contact people via IP
[09:45] <eobanb> FantasticFoo, what's the issue?
[09:45] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: just use the IP in place of a hostname
[09:45] <bruenig> FantasticFoo, that is not an easy here is what you do explanation, you likely need to give what you want to restore
[09:45] <Marex> sethk, how many new users will find that out before their bootloader will be overwritten ;)
[09:45] <bruenig> as in what app or what configuration etc.
[09:45] <argument> sethk, so what's the right way to remove a user from a group?
[09:45] <sethk> Marex, every one who's bootloader should not be overwritten, because that is nobody
[09:45] <Marex> sethk, ... or they wont manage to make that even boot
[09:45] <sethk> argument, usermod
[09:45] <bbrazil> Marex: this discussion is more appropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:46] <argument> sethk, yes i already read man usermod, the only option it has is a group list with -G
[09:46] <three> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[09:46] <Corporal_Dirge> squidgy, I'm trying to get my second moritor to work as well. (Compaq/HP) There's people trying it, but not full support yet.
[09:46] <Marex> bbrazil, well I went here just to support HanzZ in battle :P
[09:46] <sethk> argument, right, so?
[09:46] <Polygon89> hello, i have a question, im wanting to download this torrent: http://torrents.vugames.com/fearcomb...07.exe.torrent but it keeps timing out, and it says on the site that there are ppl seeding/downloading. why can't i download this torrent?
[09:46] <argument> sethk, i just want to remove myself from a specific group not go look for all the groups i'm in so that i can retype them in
[09:46] <FantasticFoo> eobanb: it got f***'ed up after i tried to install compiz (a stupid idea, trying to mess with beta junk)... i get a kernel panic every startup
[09:46] <argument> that's retarded
[09:46] <Marex> sethk, this really is loss of time :)
[09:46] <Marex> sethk, I'll go finish camera driver ...bye
[09:46] <sethk> argument, I'm sorry you don't want to type it, but that's what you do.
[09:46] <sethk> Marex, bye
[09:46] <sethk> Marex, sorry you were wrong about it.  :)
[09:46] <argument> sethk, well that's retarded
[09:47] <bruenig> Polygon89, that link doesn't even download a torrent for me I get a 404
[09:47] <argument> i'll just edit /etc/group in that case
[09:47] <sethk> argument, write a better utility, then
[09:47] <FantasticFoo> i dunno why i even bothered with that compiz crap... i'm so mad at myself
[09:47] <argument> sethk, no i'll just edit /etc/group
[09:47] <Aagni> hi .. whats the best torrent software for Gnome?
[09:47] <sethk> argument, ok, your funeral
[09:47] <Marex> sethk, you just cant take your fault ... but I understand you, dont worry
[09:47] <Corporal_Dirge> bbrazil, ip instead of hostname for what?
[09:47] <bbrazil> Aagni: use 'vigr' for that for proper locking
[09:47] <Polygon89> sorry, i was copying from my post in ubuntu forums, it shortens the name, here is the real link: http://torrents.vugames.com/fearcombat_en_107.exe.torrent
[09:47] <argument> sethk, ummm i doubt it
[09:47] <bruenig> Aagni, depends on your definition of best. azureus has the most features but is a resource hog. I use utorrent with wine
[09:47] <apo`> Hi
[09:47] <zoidberg> guys what is the name of that DVD player
[09:47] <Aagni> vigr?
[09:47] <zoidberg> oogle
[09:47] <zoidberg> ?
[09:47] <zoidberg> how do u spell it
[09:48] <tepus6> hi i recently installed compiz... im following a tutorial to set it up... it says to use gconf-editor apps > compiz... but it isnt there... any ideas?
[09:48] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: where you would normally put a hostname, just put in the IP of the remote system
[09:48] <sethk> Marex, I'll talk to you about this on PM, if you really want to understand the situation
[09:48] <Aagni> bruenig: that sounds like a great idea
[09:48] <squidgy> Corporal_Dirge:  I think maybe what I'm trying to do is even simpler.  I just want to be able to switch from the built-in LCD to using an external monitor (a projector, actually, for a class I teach).  So, no need to have both going at once or anything fancy like that.
[09:48] <HanzZ> sethk: what about this ? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/8497
[09:48] <argument> sethk, any distro where I can seriously fubar something by doing a standard edit to /etc/group is not worth my time
[09:48] <bruenig> Polygon89, it is something on your end works for me
[09:48] <Aagni> bruenig: i have never used wine+utorrent
[09:48] <Marex> sethk, you can eg join #0verkill
[09:48] <Polygon89> darn it.
[09:48] <HanzZ> sethk: this is normal?
[09:48] <Aagni> what do i need to make that happen?
[09:48] <Corporal_Dirge> bbrazil, I don't think you understand what I'm doing. Say all I have is an IP address, how do I contact them?
[09:48] <sethk> HanzZ, what about it?  I don't believe it's correct.  you do.
[09:48] <Polygon89> all torrents work except ones from that site, drat.
[09:48] <argument> sethk, assuming of course i didn't make a *mistake* or typo while editing that is
[09:49] <acojlo> easy way to change the color of menus?
[09:49] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: ftp 1.2.3.4
[09:49] <sethk> argument, hopefully
[09:49] <Marex> sethk, #0verkill ... HanzZ is there too
[09:49] <sethk> HanzZ, yes
[09:49] <HanzZ> sethk: sry :)
[09:49] <Corporal_Dirge> bbrazil, without FTP
[09:49] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: what protocol do you intend to use?
[09:49] <wasabi> argument: Tools like vigr exist for a reason. A program that reads /etc/group and gets invalid information could have unexpected outcomes. ;)
[09:50] <bruenig> Aagni, this guide takes you through the installation and configuration of wine and utorrent. All that I would add is that when you run utorrent. Go to Options>Preferences>General and uncheck all the system tray stuff as that is buggy.
[09:50] <Corporal_Dirge> bbrazil, That's what I'm asking. Is there applications that allow direct IP input?
[09:50] <bruenig> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191161
[09:50] <blocky> tar has failed me
[09:50] <blocky> File size limit exceeded
[09:50] <argument> wasabi, as I said before... not worth my time
[09:50] <wasabi> argument: Not quite sure what you mean.
[09:50] <Aagni> bruenig: which guide?
[09:50] <argument> wasabi, then forget about it
[09:50] <zparta> hey is there any tool that let me scan for wireless networks with ubuntu ?
[09:50] <bruenig> that url
[09:50] <bruenig> I meant to put it in the original post and forgot so I had to put it on another line
[09:50] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: that's pretty advanced stuff. Look into tap devices, I think they allow bidirectional communication. Also raw sockets
[09:50] <squidgy> zparta: kismet
[09:50] <tepus6> hi i recently installed compiz... im following a tutorial to set it up... it says to use gconf-editor apps > compiz... but it isnt there... any ideas?
[09:51] <zparta> squidgy: is is in with base install ?
[09:51] <Malachi> What's a good CD label make for Linux?
[09:51] <bruenig> Aagni, this guide, sorry for the confusion http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191161
[09:51] <squidgy> zparta:  no, I think it's in the universe or multiverse repository.
[09:52] <Aagni> bruenig: thats ok :) checking..
[09:52] <FantasticFoo> i really don't wanna have to reinstall linux... the error was something along the lines of "unable to mount blahblahblah"
[09:52] <Corporal_Dirge> bbrazil, Basically, I'm looking for something that people that are common to the net would use to contact each other via IP addresses. AIM, Yahoo, etc, all use SN. I'd like direct contact.
[09:52] <wasabi> argument: I'm not sure of any nix system with a /etc/group that functions any differently.
[09:52] <FantasticFoo> i can't get to a command line... maybe something i should do from a live cd?
[09:52] <bruenig> FantasticFoo, the blahblahblah is probably important
[09:53] <blocky> is there a way to have tar break its output into multiple files?
[09:53] <Entity> do we discuss about edgy in another channel?
[09:53] <bruenig> FantasticFoo, you could use the live cd to fix mount problems but first figure out the blahblahblah
[09:53] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: for simple chat there's old fashioned 'talk'
[09:53] <FantasticFoo> bruenig: yeah, but it's hard to get, the error flashes so fast
[09:53] <Corporal_Dirge> talk?
[09:53] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: 2 party IRC kinda
[09:54] <derrickh> does anyone know of a program that will burn/rip ISOs for DVDs?
[09:54] <kads> my javac command doesn't make a class file from a java file
[09:54] <flo__> can someone help me install vmware-olayer? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21229
[09:54] <FantasticFoo> bruenig: hmm.. it's actually something like "unable to mount root fs on unknown block 0,0"
[09:54] <shinobi2> iwlist shows me a hotspot, how do i connect to this hotspot?
[09:54] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: you'd probably be better off setting up an irc server
[09:54] <Entity> Is it normal that linux-dri-modules-common is not in Edgy repos???
[09:55] <Corporal_Dirge> But then they'd have to connect, etc.
[09:55] <bruenig> FantasticFoo, oh, that doesn't look good at all
[09:55] <FantasticFoo> bruenig: uhoh. that's great...
[09:55] <Corporal_Dirge> bbrazil, I'm suprised there isn't anything out there for this.
[09:56] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: I'm not sure you've thought this all the way through
[09:56] <bruenig> I was hoping it was something to do with fstab, that looks more like a boot problem
[09:56] <kads> my javac command doesn't make a class file from a java file
[09:56] <FantasticFoo> bruenig: well the error most likely happened when i tried to update packages with some weird unofficial deb repository
[09:56] <zoidberg> guys what is the name of that good DVD player...OGLE?
[09:56] <acon> There has to be at least one half way decent RSS reader for linux. The question is which one.
[09:56] <stefg> VLC :-)
[09:56] <FantasticFoo> bruenig: is there any way to "downgrade" all of my packages to the official ubuntu versions?
[09:56] <Corporal_Dirge> bbrazil, Sure I have. Why does everyone have to connect to 3rd party servers to chat?
[09:57] <Corporal_Dirge> bbrazil, there should be a way to punch in an IP address and chat with someone.
[09:57] <bruenig> fantasticfoo, are you saying you can't get into ubuntu as in it wont let you boot?
[09:57] <sethk> Corporal_Dirge, there is this thing called IRC you may want to look at.
[09:57] <FantasticFoo> bruenig: correct.
[09:57] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: that'd be talk. Or possibly jabber
[09:57] <buntu418> how to change default media player from rhythmbox to amarok ...so tht i can open it using my multimedia keyboard
[09:57] <sethk> bbrazil, telnet also
[09:57] <buntu418> plsss
[09:57] <buntu418> help me out
[09:57] <bruenig> FantasticFoo, that is beyond my knowledge however I will tell you that the problem if fixable likely resides in the /boot directory
[09:57] <bbrazil> sethk: requires a server though
[09:57] <Corporal_Dirge> sethk, You do realize that we're connected through another server right?
[09:57] <SpComb> netcat!
[09:58] <sethk> Corporal_Dirge, of course.  there is a good reason for that
[09:58] <FantasticFoo> bruenig: hmm... i see. well thanks for trying to help...
[09:58] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, it's called DCC
[09:58] <Serfalyx> blocky: You can split the tar file up after the fact with the 'split' command - will that work for you?
[09:58] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, or IM
[09:58] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, go get AIM or something
[09:58] <Serfalyx> Woah, that was late.
[09:58] <shawnr_> sethk, there are a few options for java sdk... any one over the other?
[09:59] <sethk> shawnr_, as far as I recall I use the defaults, but if you want to ask specifically about an option, then ask
[09:59] <Corporal_Dirge> argument, I have AIM, does it allow direct IP input?
[09:59] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, ummm, *why* would you need or want that?
[09:59] <Choclo> hey guys... where is the grub.conf file in ubuntu? I need to change a few boot paramenters...
[09:59] <kads> my javac command doesn't make a class file from a java file
[09:59] <sethk> choclo  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:59] <argument> kads, sounds like a question for #java
[09:59] <sethk> choclo   grub.conf is an optional symbolic link
[09:59] <Corporal_Dirge> argument, Lots of reasons. I've been around long enough to have had the need several times.
[09:59] <shawnr_> sethk, well there is the BlackDown one
[09:59] <Choclo> thanks sethk!
[10:00] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, good, so give me a few of those reasons.
[10:00] <sethk> shawnr_, and what other?
[10:00] <sethk> shawnr_, the one on sun's java.sun.com is also the blackdown one.
[10:00] <shawnr_> sethk, free-java-sdk
[10:00] <shawnr_> ahh
[10:00] <sethk> shawnr_, haven't used that one.
[10:00] <gilianima> How to chown a symbolic link ?
[10:00] <shawnr_> so i guess the blackdown would be fine
[10:00] <tepus6> ok... i installed the nvidia driver.. i set xorg to use it.. when i restarted gnome it locked up (whole system) what my be the root of this?
[10:01] <Corporal_Dirge> argument, One example is that a person that had been trying to connect to your FTP is no longer connected, you want to contact via IP.
[10:01] <buntu418> anybody using a creative midi keyboard with full function
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[10:01] <shawnr_> sethk, now the blackdown sdk, wants to install the blackdown jre. but i already have jre
[10:02] <Lenny1729> hi there
[10:02] <sethk> gilianima, same as any other file
[10:02] <AnI> i have trouble installing samba in xubuntu can anyone help?
[10:02] <Choclo> damn nvraid.... I hate it! :P
[10:02] <Choclo> *rant off
[10:02] <gilianima> sethk: it doesn't work, even using sudo
[10:02] <sethk> shawnr_, I always install the jre that comes with the sdk.  one less opportunity to get things out of sync
[10:02] <Lenny1729> has anyone tried to install sightspeed on ubuntu?
[10:02] <sethk> gilianima, I just did one, to check myself, and it works fine
[10:03] <linux_manju> babo: hmmm but i dont wanna compile my kernel..
[10:03] <sethk> gilianima, you are talking about a symbolic link, right, not a hard link?
[10:03] <Gassed> How do I install a second mouse
[10:03] <shawnr_> sethk, do i have to uninstall java again before i install this version? i just don't want my firefox java plugins to get screwed up
[10:03] <bruenig> Gassed, I would plug it in and then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:03] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, ummm, you want to contact them or they want to contact you? and wouldn't that require that *everyone* install your little "chat" software? and couldn't that easily become a security vulnerability just like any other daemon/listening process
[10:03] <tepus6> ok... i installed the nvidia driver.. i set xorg to use it.. when i restarted gnome it locked up (whole system) what my be the root of this?
[10:03] <gilianima> sethk: yes, right, a symbolic link on a drawer
[10:04] <sethk> shawnr_, these shouldn't affect your browser.  that said, I have not done this exact sequence ... so I can't say 100% that it won't have a problem.
[10:04] <argument> tepus6, what card do you have? is it old?
[10:04] <sethk> gilianima, a drawer?  there is no such thing as a drawer, at least not in the file system
[10:04] <bruenig> gilianima, do you mean a launcher on the panel?
[10:04] <argument> tepus6, have you checked the error logs or the output of X as it tries to start?
[10:04] <ph0bik> I recently screwed up some of the fonts in many of my gnome apps, such as gpdf, bleep media player, azereus and several other apps the fonts show up as unreadable boxes like its a foriegn language.  But most other apps are fine, anyone know how I can repair that?
[10:04] <blocky> argh i killed x accidentally
[10:04] <bruenig> as those aren't really symbolic links or at least I would call it that
[10:04] <Gassed> bruenig: What shall I do about the other questions, like  Attempt to autodetect video hardware?
[10:04] <gilianima> sethk: i mean a directory
[10:04] <Corporal_Dirge> argument, Yes, I'm asking if there's a chat app that allows direct IP input. You've just described what I've described to the channel already. OSS the damn app, but there has to be something.
[10:04] <bruenig> Gassed, accept defaults
[10:05] <sethk> gilianima, it's a sym link to a directory?  I'll make one of those and try to chown it
[10:05] <blocky> I'm trying to back up my home directory in a tar file to a samba share and its stopping at 2gb
[10:05] <blocky> does anyone know why?
[10:05] <shawnr_> sethk, there is a package 'javacc' in synaptic! lol lemme try
[10:05] <argument> Corporal_Dirge... why not mod X-Chat to use an ip for DCC ?
[10:05] <Brocolis> hi, i can't sync my palm, somebody can help me?
[10:05] <sethk> gilianima, works there also.
[10:05] <mc_> how do i turn ubuntu into xubuntu? (already installed xfce4)
[10:05] <mc_> do i just have to set xfce4 as the default window manager?
[10:05] <sethk> gilianima, I'm doing it as root, not with sudo.  I'll check with sudo.
[10:05] <nalioth> mc_: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:05] <tuxtux> ciao
[10:05] <tepus6> argument, i have a nvidia geforce 5200 256mb
[10:05] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, my initial guess is "no" because i really don't think you've got a very good reason to do what you're doing... at least not that i can see based on what you've described to me so far
[10:05] <AnI> problem installing samba can anyone help
[10:05] <aLPHa_LeaK> mc_: install the package xubuntu-desktop
[10:05] <Gassed> bruenig: There's nothing about a serial mouse, it's all PS/2.
[10:05] <bruenig> mc_ http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce.php
[10:06] <mc_> nalioth: aLPHa_LeaK bruenig thank you!
[10:06] <sethk> gilianima, works with sudo also
[10:06] <PhUrl>  how can i calm apt down about packages i imported from debian into ubuntu, it want a specifc version of the compiler. but i dont need it. so i want to tell apt to stop complaining. how can i do that? please? :)
[10:06] <bruenig> Gassed, my idea didn't work then
[10:06] <argument> tepus6, have you googled for information about your card with ubuntu?
[10:06] <sethk> gilianima, are you sure you are interpreting what you see correctly?
[10:06] <bruenig> Gassed, looks like you are going to need to edit the xorg.conf file
[10:06] <itsmorefun> hello
[10:06] <Malachi> What's a good CD label make for Linux?
[10:06] <nalioth> PhUrl: you should be careful and check that you can remove all those debian pkgs without breaking your system
[10:06] <Corporal_Dirge> argument, There's a good reason that people may want to chat without having to connect to a common server.
[10:06] <argument> Malachi, The GIMP
[10:06] <itsmorefun> how can i remove "Return-Path: <www-data" in mail send by postfix ?
[10:06] <Choclo> has anyone been able to install ubuntu in a a8n-sli mobo? or the nvraid?
[10:06] <Gassed> bruenig: Every one tells me to edit these files but dont tell me how or what to edit
[10:06] <nalioth> PhUrl: mixing debian debs and ubuntu debs will cause your system to fail
[10:06] <Malachi> argument: Similar to Nero or Avery
[10:07] <rekrutacja> hi all do you know easy to use tool for encoding-decoding audio files? i have collection of mp3 and ogg music, but my new phone (moto slvr) seems to accept only mp3 with max. 128kbps...
[10:07] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, what you're saying is that you want a standalone DCC app
[10:07] <bruenig> Gassed, I am not familiar with xorg.conf enough to add a new mouse. Someone else in here may be
[10:07] <gilianima> sethk: sudo chown gilles:gilles caroline (gilles is the user, caroline is the symbolic link)
[10:07] <chab> anyone know a good gameboy emulator?
[10:07] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, so go make it! or google
[10:07] <dr_willis> Gassed,  thats when reading and researching come in handy. :)
[10:07] <bruenig> !info gngb
[10:07] <ubotu> gngb: GameBoy Emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 20040115-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 94 kB, installed size 368 kB
[10:07] <gilianima> sethk: ls -l says it still belongs to root
[10:07] <sethk> gilianima, and, why do you think it fails?
[10:07] <Corporal_Dirge> argument, Say some script kiddie has been scanning my ports and I want to send a message to that IP "Stop it you little butt monkey"
[10:07] <gilianima> sethk: I don't know
[10:07] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, since DCC is already part of basically every IRC client in existence i think is the reason that most people haven't cared about what you want
[10:08] <sethk> gilianima, it works for me, here.  I created a new link, then did sudo chown root linkname    and it works
[10:08] <chab> bruenig: i believe i said good ;)
[10:08] <scriptz> how do i take a screen shot?
[10:08] <itsmorefun> how can i remove "Return-Path: <www-data" in mail send by postfix ?
[10:08] <zoidberg> guys i just downloaded OGLE DVD PLAYER
[10:08] <bruenig> chab, write one
[10:08] <Gassed> dr_willis: Thats what a Ubuntu support channel is for :)
[10:08] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, ummm... now *that* is retarded... *and* he would have to have the software installed to be able to GET that message in the first place
[10:08] <leak> hi, i've reinstalled ubuntu now for 99th time :/ would anyone mind helping me installing ATI drivers? i can give ssh access because i'm really out of ideas and can't find the reason why it fails every time. thx
[10:08] <tepus6> argument,  ive looked... there dont seem to be any similar problems like this.. but my card was made by a third party just using the nvidia chipset
[10:08] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, so if he doesn't install your little chat app you're screwed... and besides, doing that is just stupid
[10:08] <Aagni> bruenig: hi, i managed to install, config wine and got utorrent working as well
[10:08] <zoidberg> and when i run it it says CSS Library not found and crashes when i try to play a DVD
[10:08] <zoidberg> ?
[10:08] <sethk> gilianima, it is working for me, all different combinations.
[10:09] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, don't send him messages about "butt monkeys" that'll just make him want to hack you more... log his IP and report him to the fucking FBI or something yo
[10:09] <Gassed> last three times I tried editing xorg.conf X wouldnt start
[10:09] <technel> I am using gterm -- is it possible to have a bash script that opens up more tabs and runs commands?
[10:09] <Corporal_Dirge> argument, Yup, people have AIM, Yahoo, IRC, etc. I'm wondering if there's a popular or common app that allows IP input.
[10:09] <Aagni> bruenig: but for some reason my disk makes a lot of noise when i run utorrent ..
[10:09] <ompaul> !langauge
[10:09] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, NO!!!! dammit kid... write your own standalone DCC
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about langauge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <ompaul> !language
[10:09] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:09] <ph0bik> I recently found that many of my apps have unreadable fonts not sure what I did, gpdf, azerus, bleep and several others have boxes for letters.  But my font settings in gnome are right and most apps such as xchat are fine, any help?
[10:09] <bruenig> Aagni, go to system>administration>system monitor and see what kind of resource use it is taking up I have had some people complain that it goes to 100% cpu but I have never experienced that
[10:09] <sethk> Corporal_Dirge, every domain has a default email address for such complaints, and that's what you are supposed to use.  If you do anything else, then technically _you_ become guilty of hacking
[10:10] <argument> sethk++
[10:10] <sethk> Corporal_Dirge, which may be dumb, but is true
[10:10] <Corporal_Dirge> argument, Having only 1 app that isn't commonly adopted isn't really a good way to chat.
[10:10] <ompaul> Corporal_Dirge, mostly they are viruses that are attacking you
[10:10] <jrib> gilianima: you need to use -h
[10:10] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, my advice: give up and go do real work
[10:10] <Corporal_Dirge> sethk, it was another example.
[10:10] <Corporal_Dirge> ompaul, it was another example.
[10:11] <sethk> Corporal_Dirge, I do understand what you are saying.  If there were enough call for it, though, I suspect it would exist, since it is a trivial enough thing to code.
[10:11] <zoidberg> guys ineed some help
[10:11] <jrib> !ask
[10:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:11] <unio> zoidberg: elaborate please?
[10:11] <zoidberg> do i need some CSS library codecs to play DVDs using OGLE
[10:11] <zoidberg> ?
[10:11] <unio> O_o
[10:11] <jrib> !dvd > zoidberg
[10:12] <Gassed> Does anybody know how to install a second mouse (9-pin serial) to Ubuntu???
[10:12] <mc_> is there a special xubuntu rep?
[10:12] <bruenig> mc_ they are all the same
[10:12] <encrypt-> Hello all, can anyone help me set up ubuntu to act as a wireless router?
[10:12] <leak> would anyone mind logging to my comp through ssh and trying to install ATI drivers? i've failed for 100th time
[10:12] <sethk> Gassed, second, with what as first?
[10:12] <Gassed> sethk: A USB one
[10:12] <gilianima> jrib, sethk: ok, it works with -h
[10:12] <mc_> bruenig: well kubuntu has some newer kde builds i think
[10:12] <Corporal_Dirge> sethk, Well, I'm not looking for only something that would allow direct IP input, even being able to check the IP for other chat applications (AIM, Yahoo, ICQ) and then messge those clients should they have it.
[10:13] <bruenig> mc_, they have the same repos. I am almost certain
[10:13] <poningru> !nfs
[10:13] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[10:13] <sethk> gilianima, you must have a link to a link, then
[10:13] <mc_> bruenig: alright,ty!
[10:13] <sethk> Corporal_Dirge, it would, as I say, be trivial to code.
[10:13] <witless> hi. is there a utility that will  a) rip a CD to a single lossless file with all the track timing etc maintained, and  b) rip individual tracks (with tag lookup) from that file?
[10:13] <Corporal_Dirge> sethk, But currently you have to know the sn and connect to the main AIM/ICQ/Yahoo server
[10:14] <sethk> witless, tracks, yes.  I don't know of one that will rip the entire cd (talking an audio cd now)
[10:14] <Corporal_Dirge> sethk, I'm only good at java and don't know how those chat apps work.
[10:14] <Gassed> Does anybody know how to install a second mouse (9-pin serial) to Ubuntu -- First mouse is a USB one
[10:14] <witless> sethk: i wrote a script that did it using jack but the track info lookup no longer works  :-(
[10:14] <kingrayray> hi guys
[10:14] <sethk> Corporal_Dirge, it's fairly simple network programming.  You would have to define a well known socket number for a machine to listen on for such requests
[10:15] <barrree> how to set default music player?
[10:15] <kingrayray> quick Q.. how do i get rhythmbox to read mp3s?
[10:15] <jrib> !mp3 > kingrayray
[10:15] <kingrayray> thanks
[10:15] <sethk> witless, yes, I don't know a way around that, and I doubt there is one.
[10:15] <witless> ok, thx
[10:15] <bruenig> barrree, gnome does a very poor job allowing for the selection of default apps
[10:15] <bruenig> imo
[10:15] <vdm> Could someone tell me how i can configure the network etc postinstall on ubuntu-server?
[10:15] <zoidberg> guys what is the location of the sources.list?
[10:15] <zoidberg> ?
[10:15] <justin_> I am curious, is Linux on EXT3 (Ubuntu) still susceptible to the hardcrash mount failures that EXT2 had?, I remember a power outage on EXT2 and my PC would no longer boot at all --? is this still likely to happen with EXT3?
[10:16] <lamego> vdm, for the network configuration edit /etc/network/interfaces
[10:16] <sethk> zoidberg, /etc/apt
[10:16] <Aagni> justin_: it has happened to me
[10:16] <lamego> as for the rest it depends on the services you are trying to setup
[10:16] <linux_manju> zoidberg: /etc/apt/
[10:16] <barrree> so Im stuck withgxine
[10:16] <lamego> read the official server guide
[10:16] <Aagni> justin_: second day of my ubuntu install
[10:16] <vdm> lamego: that includes routing?
[10:16] <linux_manju> Where do i set the static routes ??
[10:16] <lamego> vdm, i believe it includes setting up the gw
[10:17] <leak> no volounteers :< could anyonone give me a working tutorial on ATI drivers installing? i've already tried the one from the bot in here which responds to "!ati"
[10:17] <bobovski> hi again. how do I restart dchp?
[10:17] <bruenig> !nvidia
[10:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:17] <vdm> lamego: ok, cheers.. ill check the man pages
[10:17] <bobovski> !dhcp
[10:17] <ubotu> dhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4 (dapper), package size 107 kB, installed size 304 kB
[10:17] <Aagni> !hdparm
[10:17] <ubotu> hdparm: tune hard disk parameters for high performance. In component main, is standard. Version 6.3-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 56 kB, installed size 232 kB
[10:17] <lamego> for setting up static routes maybe you have to add a route command to the networking script, if you need spefici routes, but i am not sure, man route :P
[10:18] <Aagni> is the /proc fs avialable in dapper as well?
[10:18] <lamego> Aagni, thats a linux fs, standard
[10:18] <linux_manju> lamego: Thats how it is now.. But I wanted somethig better
[10:18] <Aagni> lamego: i see
[10:18] <Aagni> !procfs
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about procfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <linux_manju> lamego: somethign like /etc/staticroutes in fedora
[10:18] <vdm> lamego: :) Yeah, need to get this box to forward ip
[10:19] <Stato> hi
[10:19] <justin_> Yeah, I better not crash and have another "Kernel" 0x00011010 whatever error :))
[10:19] <Aagni> how much of a good idea is it to run ones one dns cache?
[10:19] <Stato> i just installed ubuntu hoary from the shipped cds
[10:19] <Ademan> ubuntu has no "registry" like windows right? or one that can be modified by any old program right? its only for configuring gnome... right?
[10:19] <Aagni> i mean ones own dns cache?
[10:19] <lamego> vdm, port forwarding ? that should be an iptables rule, not routing
[10:19] <Stato> but, whats the root password?
[10:19] <ljlolel> Aagni, good question
[10:19] <technel> I am using gnome-terminal -- is it possible to have a bash script that runs some commands and then opens up more tabs in gnome-terminal?
[10:20] <lamego> Stato, you received hoary now :P ?
[10:20] <jrib> !root > Stato
[10:20] <leak> and btw - does anyone know how to run istanbul under xfce? in gnome it shows an icon in the gnome's bar on the top of screen - the problem is i dont have it in xfce so i can't right click on it and make it start recording
[10:20] <lamego> technel, don't think so
[10:20] <Aagni> ljlolel: i have been debating that with mysefl for sometime now
[10:20] <Stato> lamego, :)
[10:20] <ljlolel> Aagni, i hear a lot of isps have bad dns
[10:20] <jrib> Stato: also hoary is now two versions old, you may want to consider upgrading
[10:20] <vdm> lamego: yep, interfaces are up.. only iptables left.
[10:20] <jrib> !upgrade > Stato
[10:20] <vdm> lamego: has been a while since i did that manually :/
[10:20] <Aagni> ljlolel: I dont see thr basic reason why people do it
[10:20] <bobovski> ljlolel: I've had dns problems all week with my isp
[10:21] <technel> lamego, Any suggestions for what I could do? I will be running about 5 different programs that need to run concurrently...
[10:21] <lamego> Aagni, you shouldn't need a dns cache for your own system, unless your ISP dns really sucks :)
[10:21] <bobovski> ljlolel: it has caused no end of frustration
[10:21] <Aagni> lamego: if thats the case, then i dont need to
[10:21] <lamego> technel, why do you need tabs ? can't they run on the background ?
[10:21] <Aagni> my ISPs pretty good
[10:21] <lamego> technel, you can open new terminals, with each command...
[10:21] <lamego> from the bash script
[10:21] <bobovski> guess if I restart dhcp, I'll be disconnected?
[10:21] <Stato> ok ok, so in ubunto the root account its disabled so i cant use it?
[10:22] <sethk> technel, run gnome-terminal under strace with -o and -ff.  Create a new tab terminal.  Then extract the commands for doing so from the strace output files.
[10:22] <technel> lamego, Well, that would require "ps aux | grep whatever" and then kill every time I need to restart the process, and that is no good
[10:22] <jrib> Stato: you use sudo instead
[10:22] <ljlolel> Aagni, I mean, it's can't be slower to run your own dns, and i doubt bind takes up many resources
[10:22] <Aagni> and whats the best way to organize ones music?
[10:22] <Ademan> ubuntu has no "registry" like windows right? or one that can be modified by any old program right? its only for configuring gnome... right?
[10:22] <ljlolel> it*
[10:22] <sethk> Stato, no.  it isn't disabled.  ubuntu will not run without a root account
[10:22] <Aagni> ljlolel: probably, but why do it unless its worth the time
[10:22] <sethk> Stato, the password is not set.  In most of the install options, the root password is set, but the default desktop option does not set it.
[10:22] <ljlolel> Aagni, apt-get install bind? time?
[10:22] <sethk> Stato, you can either set the password, or use sudo
[10:22] <Aagni> Ademan: not to the best of my knowledge
[10:23] <Aagni> ljlolel: what about config time?
[10:23] <ljlolel> Aagni, what is config time
[10:23] <lamego> technel, well, check the gnome-terminal command line options, eventually there is an option to open on a tab, but it will work the same wat, it will create a new terminal, which is not bound to the parent process
[10:23] <Stato> jrib, and thats not restrictive in some way, excuse if its a silly doubt but i used to use fedora and slack with root when i needed to make big changes to the system
[10:23] <ljlolel> Aagni, just edit resolv.conf?
[10:23] <Aagni> ljlolel: time required to set it up
[10:23] <ljlolel> one line?
[10:23] <lamego> technel, and you can keep track of the open terminal pids, saving the $?
[10:23] <bobovski> I'm typing in sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart but it's not working, command not found
[10:23] <Aagni> ljlolel: i know .. but why do it unless its *absolutely* required
[10:23] <T> Hi all
[10:23] <jrib> Stato: no you can do everything with sudo that you could do by loggin in as root.  'sudo -i' will even give you a root prompt if you wish
[10:24] <ljlolel> to save 10 ms
[10:24] <T> i i am trying to compile Qt 4 and when i do make i get a error
[10:24] <PhUrl> i started a autotools repacking of the large scale c++ software dependancy analysis http://rdfintrospector.blogspot.com/2006/08/configuration-tools-part-1-lsc-large.html
[10:24] <bobovski> what about sudo su -
[10:24] <ljlolel> :-)
[10:24] <phobik> I recently found that many of my apps have unreadable fonts not sure what I did, gpdf, azerus, bleep and several others have boxes for letters.  But my font settings in gnome are right and most apps such as xchat are fine, any help?
[10:24] <T> make[3] : *** [.obj/debug-shared/qobject.o]  Error 1
[10:24] <lamego> phobik, have you used automatix ?
[10:24] <sethk> bobovski, sudo su - doesn't make any sense.
[10:24] <phobik> lamego: yes :(
[10:24] <Aagni> phobik: try rebuiling your font cache?
[10:24] <lamego> phobik, so, there is your problem :)
[10:24] <T> and something with corelib
[10:24] <phobik> lamego: ok no solution?
[10:24] <lamego> probably you have selected the ms ttfs fonts install
[10:25] <Aagni> lamego: i used automatix .. so?
[10:25] <sethk> Stato, you can set the root password and use it.  there is nothing different about ubuntu compare to slackware or fedora in this respect
[10:25] <T> make[3] : *** [.obj/debug-shared/qobject.o]  Error 1
[10:25] <lmosher> Stato, I came from FC about a week ago. You can do 'sudo su -' if you want to. The point of doing it this way (I think) is that you have to enter your pw every time you do something. Which is supposed to make it more safe, but I worry that password entry becomes habit forming and you could make mistakes anyway
[10:25] <Stato> jrib, ok ,thanks man ill see how this works
[10:25] <phobik> lamego: yep how do I go about removing?
[10:25] <bobovski> sethk: try it
[10:25] <Aagni> lamego: and i selected ms fonts install ..its ok with me
[10:25] <lamego> Aagni, the last time i did it, i have installed the ms ttf fonts, and a lot of applications got unreadable
[10:25] <lamego> Aagni, but not with me, and some other people
[10:25] <Aagni> lamego: thats strange
[10:25] <Aagni> i am using ms fonts as my defaults
[10:25] <sethk> bobovski, I didn't say it won't work, I said it makes no sense, and it is inferior to setting the root password and using su normally
[10:25] <Stato> sethk, ok ill check about that, i have 2 years without using linux .(
[10:25] <phobik> lamego: cool thanks for the heads up, I will try to remove that package
[10:25] <lmosher> Stato, but like they've said - it's just a default option. You can set your root pw and such and it will be just like FC if you want. I left it to the default for now - it hasn't really bothered me :)
[10:25] <Aagni> lamego: i see
[10:25] <bobovski> sethk: I don't know much about command line stuff, but that gives me a root login
[10:26] <lamego> Aagni, and the worse, there is no way to uninstall them, at least not automated
[10:26] <leak> so.. anyone willing to help me installing ATI drivers through SSH? i really dont wanna format/reinstall again which i will have to do if i start doing it on my own once again
[10:26] <bobovski> sethk: hehe, I had no idea there was another way
[10:26] <phobik> lamego: your kidding...
[10:26] <sethk> bobovski, if you subscribe to the "sudo is better" (which I don't), then you shouldn't do that.  If you want to do that, just set the root password.
[10:26] <lmosher> leak, what card do you have?
[10:26] <leak> radeon 9000
[10:26] <sethk> bobovski, the reason that is much worse than setting the root password is that gives everyone root access whether they know the root password or not.
[10:26] <lamego> phobik, remove does not remove the fonts, at least it did not when i have used, it was some months ago, just if they changed it after :)
[10:26] <bobovski> sethk: I'm not experienced enought to subscribe to any way yet...other than what has been working heh
[10:26] <leak> i've followed the link bot gives when writing !ati, but it didn't help me - it was still using mesa
[10:27] <Stato> sethk, how i can set the root passw?
[10:27] <bobovski> dittop
[10:27] <phobik> lamego: well how did you fix it?
[10:27] <sethk> stato   sudo passwd
[10:27] <bobovski> er, ditto
[10:27] <lmosher> Leak, follow this guide: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[10:27] <lamego> phobik, I decided to reinstall because i was loosing to much time deleting the fonts manually, i mean looking for them
[10:27] <bobovski> anyone know how to restart dhcp?
[10:27] <Stato> sethk, thanks :)
[10:27] <lamego> it was faster to just reinstall, since i keep a /home aside
[10:27] <lmosher> leak, Pay carefull attention to the "troubleshooting' tip #2 about cards less than a 9500.
[10:27] <leak> lmosher i'm afraid i've already did i and i'm 100% sure i did everything the way it's written in there
[10:27] <lamego> since then, I never use automatix, just easyubuntu
[10:28] <leak> ok thx man.
[10:28] <lmosher> leak, Did you check that troubleshooting point? Apparently something is borked for cards less than 9500 and they have a link to a .so file you need to install manually
[10:28] <leak> now i remember that's what i needed to do when i was installing ati on ubuntu for the first time and after several formats i simply forgot on that lib
[10:29] <leak> i'm sure it's gonna work now, lmosher can u maybe provide me with an answer on my question regarding running istanbul under xfce?
[10:29] <leak> if you have experience with it
[10:29] <lmosher> leak, Sorry I've never used instabul and have very limited experience with xfce
[10:30] <leak> kk, thx anyway and thx alot for help with the drivers
[10:30] <ompaul> leak, you know there is #xubuntu ?
[10:30] <leak> didn't know
[10:30] <zoidberg> alright guys I'm a DUMBASS...can someone help me get the SEVEAS pacakgeages...i think its the CSS library stuff i need....i made the changes to the sources.list....but then when i run apt-get update it says that th epublic key for the website is not available
[10:30] <zoidberg> ?
[10:30] <Hellavator> I'm having trouble emptying my trash.  I am getting a message that says ".... cannot be deleted because you do not have permissions to modify its parent folder" how do I resolve this?
[10:30] <ompaul> !seveas
[10:31] <mc_> !easysource > zoidberg
[10:31] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:31] <ompaul> zoidberg, ^^^^^^^
[10:31] <TokenBad> in hoary how installed tcl?
[10:31] <Aagni> bobovski: try this: service dhcpd restart
[10:31] <ompaul> !info tcl hoary
[10:31] <ubotu> Package tcl does not exist in hoary
[10:31] <Aagni> !service
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about service - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <sethk> Hellavator, you may have to do a chown on a parent folder.  how did you get into this situation?
[10:32] <mirzapirza> i think i just killed a laptop.. put in the ubuntu cd, went for 'verify disk', eventually it was giving me looping IRQ 15 errors, so i shut it down -- and now nothing :X i turn it on, the fan goes turns on and a few seconds later it just quiets down :/
[10:32] <ompaul> TokenBad, there you go, there is no tcl for hoary, I have not run that version of ubuntu in about a year
[10:32] <DShepherd> Hellavator: cd ~/.Trash && rm -fr * #that should empty your trash
[10:32] <bruenig> Hellavator, it seems to me a quick sudo chown username -R ~/.Trash would fix it
[10:32] <bobovski> Aagni: ok, thanks
[10:32] <sethk> mirzapirza, sounds like a thermal shutdown, possibly.  wait a bit and try again
[10:32] <TokenBad> ok so have to download and install
[10:32] <Shadyman> hey all.
[10:32] <DShepherd> Hellavator: cd ~/.Trash && sudo rm -fr * #that's better
[10:33] <noclip> hi all! i'm trying to install aiglx and compiz. i add the repositories and "sudo apt-get update", but i get the following error messages:
[10:33] <noclip> W: GPG error: http://xgl.compiz.info dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 31A5F97FED8A569E
[10:33] <noclip> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[10:33] <sethk> mirzapirza, verify doesn't write anything
[10:33] <ompaul> TokenBad, you will have to install it from source, be aware that hoary is out of support come October I would get a later distro first
[10:33] <DShepherd> Hellavator: i forgot the sudo part
[10:33] <bobovski> Aagni: service command not found
[10:33] <mirzapirza> sethk: well, it was a while ago actually
[10:33] <sethk> mirzapirza, possibly the disk was about to die and you pushed it over the edge
[10:33] <mirzapirza> maybe :/
[10:33] <mirzapirza> it's old
[10:33] <sethk> mirzapirza, put it in the fridge for a while  :)
[10:34] <noclip> how do i find the public key? (and what do i do with it when i find it?)
[10:34] <mirzapirza> but i get no error messages or anything when i start it.. it just shuts down, and it's been at least an hour now
[10:34] <Hellavator> DShepherd: thanks that worked
[10:34] <sethk> mirzapirza, that's very odd.  you should at least get the startup bios messages
[10:34] <noclip> (or is it safe to continue without it?)
[10:34] <bruenig> noclip it probably was included on the site where you got the repo source
[10:34] <sethk> mirzapirza, remove the hard drive, see if the messages come back
[10:34] <DShepherd> Hellavator: your welcome
[10:34] <TokenBad> ompaul, its for a friend...that was all the disk he had...and he is learning it while waiting on the dapper disk
[10:34] <mirzapirza> any guesses on what it was doing when it said 'disabling irq 15'?
[10:34] <zoidberg> whats the name of the seveas css Library package? i just need to know this so i can download it
[10:35] <sethk> mirzapirza, just that.  there is no way that can carry over across a hard boot
[10:35] <bruenig> libdvdcss?
[10:35] <Aagni> bobovski: try restarting that particular interface
[10:35] <mirzapirza> sethk, i'm not equipped to dig into it and remove the hard drive :o
[10:35] <mirzapirza> dang :x
[10:35] <Aagni> !css
[10:35] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:35] <nox-Hand> Hey
[10:35] <jrib> DShepherd: may I /msg you?
[10:35] <noclip> bruenig, hmm... ok, i'll look for it...
[10:35] <nox-Hand> I am trying to get cron to work as alarm for my system (( to wake me in the morning ))
[10:35] <sethk> mirzapirza, I think it's fair to say that the message about the irq indicates either a serious incompatibility or a serious hardware problem
[10:35] <nox-Hand> But when it starts playing a file, it exits after 1 second o.o
[10:36] <bruenig> zoidberg, here a .deb of libdvdcss, just install it via dpkg or gdebi. probably easiest way to do it http://www.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.8/deb/libdvdcss2_1.2.8-1_i386.deb
[10:36] <Aagni> bobovski: e.g. ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 (assuming its eth0 )
[10:36] <ompaul> TokenBad, I would see if it was in back-ports from breezy check you have the repos enabled from /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:36] <nox-Hand> any ideas?
[10:36] <bobovski> Aagni: I acutally got /etc/init.d/network restart to work...
[10:36] <mirzapirza> sethk: the eth is a pc card, but it wasn't plugged in.. anything about that?
[10:36] <Aagni> bobovski: yay ;)
[10:36] <Ademan> is there EVER anything more to uninstalling a program in linux(that was not installed using a package manager) than simply deleting the directories it created (other than removing any shared objects it might have created as well)
[10:37] <bobovski> but I'm not so sure yet I have the resolv.conf set up the way I'd like it
[10:37] <sethk> mirzapirza, I doubt it's relevant
[10:37] <argument> Ademan, nope
[10:37] <bobovski> resolving dns seems to take longer now, unfortunately
[10:37] <argument> Ademan, some times you can do make uninstall
[10:37] <mirzapirza> hey this time it gave me three beeps before dying
[10:38] <mirzapirza> strange
[10:38] <Aagni> bobovski: what are you trying to do?
[10:38] <Ademan> argument: well, this is installed with a binary linux installer (its actually the quake 4 demo) so all I need to do is delete any directories it created?
[10:39] <mirzapirza> four beeps!
[10:39] <bobovski> Aagni: well, resolving dns was taking a long time when my router was getting the dns from my ISP. So, I changed my resolv.conf (with advice from sethk) to use a static dns, not provided by my isp
[10:39] <lamego> Ademan, you could try to use checkinstall
[10:39] <bobovski> Aagni: but it seemed to work better when my 'puter got the dns from the router which was set up for static dns
[10:40] <Elda> Hello
[10:40] <bobovski> Aagni: So, I think I'll settle for that configuration
[10:40] <Ademan> !checkinstall > Ademan
[10:40] <Aagni> bobovski: i see
[10:40] <Lenny1729> has anyone ever tried sightspeed under ubuntu?
[10:40] <Aagni> !checkinstall >Agni
[10:40] <Aagni> Lenny1729: whats that ?
[10:40] <mirzapirza> memory or mobo probs according to google..
[10:40] <ardchoille> !info checkinstall
[10:40] <ubotu> checkinstall: installation tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.3-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 132 kB
[10:41] <Aagni> !checkinstall >Aagni
[10:41] <lamego> !! checkinstall
[10:41] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page.
[10:41] <bobovski> Aagni: except now I can't get resolv.conf to set nameserver to my router
[10:41] <zoidberg> thanx guys
[10:41] <lostinc> I installed the w32codecs and I still cant seem to play any non DRM files through VLC any ideas?
[10:41] <bobovski> Aagni: make the file read-only?
[10:41] <chamo>  can't install the ATI driver
[10:41] <technel> When I call gnome -e "command" &, the window just closes right away. How do I get it to stay open indefinitly?
[10:42] <argument> Ademan, er yeah prolly... i dunno about that... check the Quake 4 documentation
[10:42] <zoidberg> now i know there was a way to make DVDs play smoother on machines with less RAM
[10:42] <zoidberg> ?
[10:42] <zoidberg> does anyone know how....i did it before but i forgot
[10:42] <Aagni> bobovski: what do u mean you cant get ?
[10:42] <argument> Ademan, i bought Quake 4 :) but my gfx card is a bit too slow :( ... FX 5700
[10:42] <lamego> technel, you can't because you are running it on the background, you can't control it
[10:42] <YogSothoth> I'm trying to get setup my dual monitor. I can't get my 2nd monitor to work. But my main problem is now that my main screen using internal lcd (I'm on a laptop) is not using the full display. I mean, I can set the resolution to 1366x768 which is correct, but I get two black margin on left and right and I need to scroll the screen with my mouse. Why??
[10:42] <Ademan> arguement: how did you uninstall it?
[10:42] <ardchoille> zoidberg: Did you turn DMA on?
[10:42] <Corporal_Dirge> lostinc, is it giving any error or just playing really low quality?
[10:42] <sc0tty> hhm my menu is all screwed up and when I did revert , well it didn't revert :s
[10:42] <zoidberg> no
[10:42] <zoidberg> ardchoille, thats it ...how do i do that
[10:42] <lamego> technel, you are trying to implement something on the wrong way
[10:43] <lostinc> Its playing but it has no video I just see the slider go across the screen and sometimes sound
[10:43] <exs> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1402073#post1402073 an idea for devs
[10:43] <bobovski> Aagni: My resolv.conf looks like: nameserver 192.168.1.1 and then two more below it. When I restart the network, it gets rid of the first line
[10:43] <ardchoille> zoidberg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[10:43] <argument> Ademan, linux doesn't have a registry... so you don't really need "uninstallers"
[10:43] <ardchoille> zoidberg: That page explains a lot about it.
[10:43] <Ademan> you just deleted the dir?
[10:43] <argument> Ademan, just check the install log to find out where it put all it's files
[10:43] <Corporal_Dirge> lostinc, Make sure xorg.conf is using a driver set up for your card. I had a similar issue.
[10:43] <Ademan> alright, thanks
[10:43] <argument> Ademan, yes
[10:43] <lamego> technel, you can't work with multilpe terminals like if they were gui windows that you can control from a main program..
[10:44] <ardchoille> !dma
[10:44] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[10:44] <technel> lamego, In all honesty, I don't have the time to learn everything about bash and the Linux kernel. All I want is to type "./launch_whatever" and a few terminals pop open with the command sexecuted
[10:44] <ardchoille> I could have used the bot to tel him about dma, d'oh!
[10:44] <lamego> tech09, just nohup terminal -e command &
[10:44] <technel> lamego, commands*
[10:44] <Aagni> bobovski: no idea to be honest
[10:44] <lamego> and it does open the terminal, until the command ends
[10:44] <argument> technel, use screen
[10:44] <bobovski> Aagni: me neither :)
[10:45] <lamego> make it terminal -e "command" &
[10:45] <technel> lamego, It is...
[10:45] <Hoxzer> What torrent client do you guys prefer?
[10:45] <bobovski> what's the chmod for read-only?
[10:45] <carlos> hello everyone
[10:45] <mc_> Hoxzer: opera
[10:45] <lamego> technel, make sure the & is for the gnome-terminal and not for the command itself
[10:45] <argument> Hoxzer, the default one that comes with ubuntu
[10:45] <technel> lamego, gnome-terminal -e "cd $SAPP_DIR;ruby script/breakpointer" &
[10:45] <carlos> i have a problem, maybe you can help me
[10:45] <DrBanzai> Anybody here know about minicom?  Or is there a better alternative?
[10:45] <argument> Hoxzer, btdownloadcurses has worked well for me so far
[10:45] <lamego> technel, ok, and that doesn't work ?
[10:45] <mc_> !ask > carlos
[10:45] <bobovski> read only for user,group and other, I mean
[10:45] <bruenig> does anyone know if there is a cron.allow by default or not?
[10:45] <technel> lamego, No.
[10:45] <lamego> technel, you can't control the terminal, it will close when the breakpointer ends
[10:46] <lucas> I'm doing a quick poll using a ctcp version query, sorry
[10:46] <Hoxzer> argument: ok, I personally prefer bittornado-gui atm
[10:46] <lamego> technel, it does not work, doesnt it open a terminal and runs the command ?
[10:46] <DAC> anyone knows how to capture REAL media stream with any linux tool
[10:46] <argument> Hoxzer, that has been buggy for me
[10:46] <technel> lamego, It runs the command, but it does not stay open
[10:46] <Hoxzer> argument: will try utorrent with wine in near feature
[10:46] <Hoxzer> argument: :o
[10:46] <ProN00b> DAC, if you can play it with mplayer you can dump it to disk
[10:46] <argument> hahahah... using wine for torrent? omg that's kinda lame...
[10:46] <Corporal_Dirge> Hoxzer, I use Azuerus since it runs on Java.
[10:46] <technel> lamego, If I open a terminal and type "ruby script/breakpointer", it does not close right away, I don't understand why it is impossible for me to ask for this behavior from a bash script
[10:46] <argument> Hoxzer, try Azureus first
[10:46] <bruenig> will somebody do ls /etc | grep cron and tell me if cron.allow is part of the output or not
[10:46] <DrBanzai> Anybody here know about minicom?  Or is there a better alternative?
[10:46] <carlos> i have installed xgl in ubuntu 606, 686kernel, when i press the alt key of my keyboard the active windows moves to the next desktop, if there is no active window then the main desktop crash, any idea??
[10:47] <lamego> technel, because it is not expected to be, if you want it to keep open, add a "read" command on the script that runs on the terminal
[10:47] <FurryNemesis> Hoxzer, or bitornado
[10:47] <argument> Hoxzer, i don't like Azureus because it requires java but otherwise it's better than trying to run some lame stuff through wine
[10:47] <mc_> bruenig: it is
[10:47] <bruenig> mc_ thanks
[10:47] <lamego> tech09, just append a "read" to the script/breakpointer
[10:47] <argument> Hoxzer, besides... you should just go get vmware instead of wine
[10:47] <mc_> bruenig: you're welcome
[10:48] <carlos> i suspect that my keyboard was not wel configured but all the keys works right, so i thought the problem is with xgl
[10:48] <carlos> my sistem is a acer travelmate 4670 laptop
[10:48] <lamego> !! xgl > carlos
[10:48] <technel> lamego, gnome-terminal -e "read" & -<-- does not stay open
[10:49] <Hoxzer> argument: utorrent is said to work just fine with wine
[10:49] <sc0tty> ok, so it seems my menu won't display some items, such as the add/remove menu, the users menu, ... most of the Administration infact
[10:49] <argument> technel, are you trying to make a panel launcher or somethign?
[10:49] <bobovski> later all
[10:49] <Hoxzer> argument: :/ so I dont wanna use space just to run utorrent
[10:49] <technel> argument, A panel launcher?
[10:49] <technel> argument,  All I want is to type "./launch_whatever" and a few terminals pop open with the command sexecuted
[10:49] <lamego> technel, hum, ok, i am puzlled now :P
[10:49] <technel> argument, Without closing after completion
[10:50] <technel> lamego, And just for the record, script/breakpointer is not something that exits right away, it actually *should* run until killed
[10:50] <lamego> tech09, if you put "read" on a script, it does work, it does ketp open
[10:50] <argument> technel, i dunno man, if the -e application exits the terminal will exit... dunno how to change that... that would be a terminal specific question probably
[10:50] <argument> technel, for example gnome-terminal -e "vim" works fine
[10:51] <sc0tty> huh lol, if I move my elements out and back into the menu it works . I guess it must be a weird behavior of Alacarte
[10:51] <lamego> technel, read is a bash command, you can't use with -e
[10:51] <technel> argument, Indeed it does, but -e "read" doesn't
[10:51] <lamego> tech09, because, it is not something executable
[10:52] <technel> lamego, So....how do I execute a bash cmd?
[10:52] <pluma> I seem to get seemingly random timeouts when attempting to lookup domain names. Specifically, this occurs with Sun's download server, Macromedia's download server and any version of Wikipedia. This occurs both in Firefox and Network Tools, although the latter works fine with domains (i.e. wikipedia.org works, www.wikipedia.org and en.wikipedia.org time out). I've disabled IPv6 as per the wiki article's instructions both via the terminal and in Fir
[10:52] <tjb891> ok, so i installed the doomlegacy packages and the shareware doom wad, how do i play doom now?
[10:52] <Elda> Meh, sorry to bother.  But Ive been crawling the forums and have not been able to figure out where one would obtain codecs?  Because I find that I am unable to run some of the anime discs I have in here since I do not have the correct codecs -_-
[10:52] <Arclite> I have a problem. I have 50 Breezy CDs and no idea what to do with them.
[10:52] <Elda> Send them out?
[10:52] <xepher> Arclite, make a wallpaper out of them using zipties
[10:52] <lamego> tech09, you create a script with it
[10:53] <Elda> Or just give them out at random, to see how many people actually start using it xD
[10:53] <zoidberg> hey guys just a lil problem
[10:53] <technel> lamego, Are you actually talking to tech09 or me?
[10:53] <zoidberg> for some reason when i run Ogle
[10:53] <zoidberg> and it runs fine
[10:53] <lamego> technel, you
[10:53] <Arclite> But they're Breezy CDs, and outdated. I don't know anyone who wants them.
[10:53] <anze> hello > *
[10:53] <zoidberg> i dont see the GUI toolbar you know the thing that says play pause forward rewind and stuff like that
[10:53] <zoidberg> ?
[10:53] <ProN00b> Arclite, use them as frisbees
[10:53] <zoidberg> any ideas what is going on
[10:53] <technel> lamego, So...I create a script with the bash command? So I have a script calling a terminal that calls another one-line script?
[10:53] <Elda> Make vertical blinds out of them?
[10:53] <Routh> Is there a way to install the new ubuntu/kubuntu systems without booting from the Live CD? The live CD does not seem to work on 128mb ram...
[10:54] <Ademan> anyone have a reference to how to install doom 3 on linux? the cd doesn't appear to have a linux install script or a linux install binary
[10:54] <Elda> Doom 3 is a nasty, and ignorant failure by ID games >.>
[10:54] <argument> Ademan, look into Cedega dude
[10:54] <mc_> argument: doom3 runs native on linux
[10:54] <tjb891> Elda: its in the ubuntu wiki i believe, search doom3
[10:54] <zoidberg> can anyone help me out
[10:54] <zoidberg> ?
[10:54] <argument> Ademan, it's cheap and it's basically the best option you have for windows games on linux
[10:55] <Elda> I dont want to put doom3 on here >.<
[10:55] <Elda> I want nothing to do with doom 3 >.>
[10:55] <zoidberg> i cant see the toolbar in OGLE when i run it...it runs fine but i dont see it...the DVD just starts playing automatically when i run OGLE
[10:55] <zoidberg> ?
[10:55] <lamego> technel, yes, because you are trying to create  a gui like function with text terminals :)
[10:55] <kingrayray> MPD system service not installed
[10:55] <kingrayray> so how do i install it?
[10:55] <kingrayray> (said that when i installed mpd)
[10:55] <Routh> anyone know?
[10:55] <zoidberg> alright forget that
[10:55] <Elda> Would there be anything about codecs on ubuntu wiki?
[10:56] <zoidberg> does anyone knwo what the package is for Powerbook buttons
[10:56] <zoidberg> ?
[10:56] <technel> lamego, I am trying to launch a terminal, how exactly is that a gui like function? It is creating a new window, yes, obviously, but...
[10:56] <Routh> Is there a way to install the new ubuntu/kubuntu systems without booting from the Live CD? Anyone?
[10:56] <pluma> Routh: RTFM? I think there's an article on that in the wiki. ;)
[10:56] <zoidberg> Routh, yes there is i did it myself but unfortunaetly i forgot
[10:57] <chamo> !ati
[10:57] <Ademan> arguement: but there ARE linux binaries for Doom 3 I know that for a fact
[10:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:57] <zoidberg> there is a wiki article on it
[10:57] <zoidberg> u will be using the apt-get install commands
[10:57] <lamego> tech09, the terminal is getting closed because your program you are running ends !
[10:57] <zoidberg> at least thats how i did it
[10:57] <argument> Ademan, why are you telling me? so go find/get them.
[10:57] <Routh> pluma: Been googling for hours and haven't found a thing - can you point me to the article?
[10:57] <Thunderpants> zoidberg, on the ogle question, if u delete the hidden .ogle folder in your home dir, next time u start the app u will have a fresh copy
[10:57] <Elda> Hmm well bbl
[10:57] <pluma> Routh: am looking.
[10:57] <lguerra> Hello, someone can collaborate me with the theme of control of wide of band? I have read about tc and shaperd, but I do not understand as to do it
[10:57] <zoidberg> can i see it if its hidden Thunderpants
[10:58] <Thunderpants> view>show hidden files
[10:58] <ompaul> pluma, please don't use that "phrase" return a url to the user in question or say nothing, thanks :)
[10:58] <ompaul> !install > Routh
[10:59] <ompaul> Routh, you will find a useful url from the bot "ubotu"
[10:59] <technel> lamego, Whatever, it takes me ~30 seconds to launch these programs every day and I just wasted about 1.5 hrs so it is probably best for me to just do it manually, as it won't be worth any more time
[10:59] <pluma> Routh: Tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation ?
[10:59] <technel> lamego, But thanks for your help
[10:59] <pluma> ompaul: But I love the fine manual.
[11:00] <zoidberg> Thunderpants, there is no view<show hidden files in my GNOME terminal...i have breezy by the way
[11:00] <Thunderpants> zoidberg, do it in nautilus, u may have to fo thru edit>pref
[11:00] <daaku> anyone using the fixedsys excelsior font? i'm trying to find a larger version of the same thing (changing the font size messes it up)
[11:00] <zoidberg> where is nautilus
[11:01] <Thunderpants> its the file manager like explorer
[11:01] <lostinc> Hmm I looked at the xorg.conf file and I have a laptop (not so great but not to bad) It has on it a SiS M760 + SIS 963L with 15" XGA (1024 x  768) TFT LCD display. Is there a way to better configure my xorg.conf file for this?
[11:01] <chamo> gtg
[11:02] <maria> anyone can help me please , a few minutes ago i was playing my music in the xmms , but now i cant , the music play very fast and i dont listening to someting , the plugin i select was the same that i had all the time , any suggestions please?
[11:02] <exs> Let me know what you think of my idea! http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1402073#post1402073
[11:02] <pluma> In case someone missed it the last seven days or so: I seem to get seemingly random timeouts when attempting to lookup domain names. Specifically, this occurs with Sun's download server, Macromedia's download server and any version of Wikipedia. This occurs both in Firefox and Network Tools, although the latter works fine with domains (i.e. wikipedia.org works, www.wikipedia.org and en.wikipedia.org time out). I've disabled IPv6 as per the wiki ar
[11:03] <mariaaa> someone can help me with this problem??
[11:03] <exs> mariaaa:  say it.
[11:03] <iter> mariaaa: try another music program to test
[11:03] <mariaaa> anyone can help me please , a few minutes ago i was playing my music in the xmms , but now i cant , the music play very fast and i dont listening to someting , the plugin i select was the same that i had all the time , any suggestions please?
[11:04] <iter> something like totem or amarok
[11:04] <mariaaa> i try with mplayer and it was the same
[11:04] <mariaaa> all the computers saound are off
[11:04] <zoidberg> Thunderpants, the ogle folder is in /usr/share not in /home
[11:04] <mariaaa> sounds*
[11:04] <zoidberg> and why do i want to delete it?
[11:04] <jrib> pluma: you got cut off at '... as per the wiki ar'
[11:04] <lostinc> Whats the diff between suspend and hibernate?
[11:05] <weirdo> how do i convert a .run file to .deb so i can install it?
[11:05] <zoidberg> Thunderpants, why do i want to delete it...
[11:05] <iter> mariaaa: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-15897.html
[11:05] <pluma> jrib: I've disabled IPv6 as per the wiki article's instructions both via the terminal and in Firefox's about:config. The lookups work fine on the Windows boxen on the same network with identical DNS settings (DNS = the local router, which is set up properly). I'd appreciate any constructive idea that might contribute to the solution of this major miff.
[11:05] <iter> does that sound like your problem
[11:05] <lamego> weirdo, you run it, but with checkinstall
[11:05] <lamego> !! checkinstall > weirdo
[11:05] <chaos_of_apocaly> can anyone tell me a program to record my desktop?
[11:05] <ompaul> pluma, (sorry got diverted) we actually don't use that phrase here, we have so many diverse users at every level of experiance that for some of them the manual is an alien concept, it is what allows the massive growth afics
[11:05] <weirdo> do i need to convert it?
[11:05] <zoidberg> Thunderpants, why do i want to delete the Ogle folder....its in usr/share by the way
[11:06] <ompaul> pluma, looks like wherever your pulling your dns info from is shakey
[11:06] <zoidberg> do you guys know whats the package to download to make Powerbook buttons to work...such as volume buttons and brightness buttons
[11:06] <iter> pluma: what's in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:07] <pluma> ompaul: But it's not. It works fine on the Windows boxen and the router works properly and doesn't have any quirks.
[11:07] <iter> also, are you using dhcp or static
[11:07] <ompaul> pluma, as per iter
[11:07] <pluma> iter: just what you'd expect. DNS and domain. Both correct.
[11:08] <pluma> nameserver 192.168.0.254, that's the router.
[11:08] <iter> and it's only a couple sites?
[11:08] <pluma> iter: static IP.
[11:08] <iter> everything else works 100%?
[11:08] <Tangent1> I need help
[11:08] <Tangent1> I tried to dual-boot my system with Ubuntu and XP
[11:09] <Tangent1> but when I had installed XP, all of a sudden I can't boot
[11:09] <iter> Tangent1: boot from xp cd, into recovery console, run fdisk /mbr and fixboot
[11:09] <Tangent1> I think the problem might be that GRUB is now missing, as all of my files are still intact
[11:09] <pluma> iter: Essentially, yes, that's what it looks like. Wikipedia seems affected and some sub-domains (java.sun.com works, but the download server subdomain of sun.com doesn't).
[11:09] <pluma> iter: All that works, works fine.
[11:09] <Tangent1> how can I install GRUB again?
[11:09] <mariaaa> how can i  Update the plugins for my mp3 player.??
[11:10] <iter> Tangent1: if you insist you can use something like the ultimate bootcd to install another bootloader in the mbr
[11:10] <kingrayray> guys, I installed MPD and it says "MPD system service not installed" so how do i install it? i want mpd to start on boot..
[11:10] <iter> but why not just go back to windows one
[11:10] <iter> pluma: ouch
[11:10] <iter> pluma: check /etc/hosts too of course
[11:10] <Mirrado> Tangentl, you need a live CD and a chroot to your instaled partition
[11:10] <Tangent1> iter: all I need is for linux to work
[11:10] <iter> but if you're only having problems with one or two hosts ...
[11:11] <iter> ohhh
[11:11] <pluma> iter: What doesn't make sense is that it seems to be absolutely arbitrary. They all work fine on my WinXP box and the other machines (MacOS X, Win98)
[11:11] <iter> Tangent1: just start from cd again
[11:11] <DrBanzai> Can sombody help me trouble shoot a serial port problem?
[11:11] <Tangent1> which CD?
[11:11] <iter> install grub
[11:11] <iter> ubuntu
[11:11] <Tangent1> the Windows cd?
[11:11] <Tangent1> alright
[11:11] <Mirrado> Ubuntu CD
[11:11] <Tangent1> all I have is my old Breezy CD, should that still work?
[11:11] <iter> no, basically windows overwrites mbr
[11:11] <mariaaa> how can i  Update the plugins for my mp3 player.??
[11:11] <ompaul> Tangent1, yes
[11:11] <Tangent1> alright
[11:12] <iter> mariaaa: try the other steps, as per right below that issue
[11:12] <Tangent1> and should I just skip all the first few steps up until the Install GRUB?
[11:12] <pluma> iter: localhost <computer>, <computer> and the IPv6 lines, which should be redundant as I disabled IPv6 the way the wiki article told me to.
[11:12] <iter> Tangent1: yes, all you're interested in is getting grub back in the mbr
[11:12] <Routh> None of those links seem to have anything that addresses my issue - The only thing that cam close was the installing on a lowmem computer, however the cd does not seem to want to boot with the commands given in the documentation - My issue is that the live cd boots - but once it has the desktop loaded there is not enough memory left for it to open the installer program.. did the developers not leave the old text based installer from olde
[11:12] <Tangent1> alright
[11:12] <Tangent1> thanks
[11:12] <Tangent1> I'll try that
[11:12] <Tangent1> brb
[11:13] <lostinc> IUs there a graphical way to have ubuntu detect my video card?
[11:13] <ompaul> Routh, what are the specs for the machine? (you can do a server isntall)
[11:13] <iter> pluma: ouch that's a toughie
[11:13] <fdr> hello... please, how do I get to the "settings" windows for the screensaver that was there in ubuntu 5.10 ? I am using 6.06 now and the screensaver panel shows very little options.... thank you!
[11:13] <jrib> Routh: use the alternate install cd
[11:13] <Routh> ompaul: It's a celeron 466mhz, 128MB's ram - 40gb drive
[11:13] <iter> pluma: I mean, sounds like a bug, but for all the other folks that don't seem to have that problem
[11:13] <pluma> iter: that's why I've been tearing my hair out for the past week. Well, not litterally.
[11:14] <jrib> fdr: you can use xscreensaver instead of the now default gnome-screensaver
[11:14] <pluma> iter: is there any way to get a verbose analysis of the lookup?
[11:14] <ompaul> Routh, so you really could try xubuntu with that much ram
[11:14] <mariaaa> iter i am ok with 1 and 2 , i need make the 3
[11:14] <iter> pluma: use dig
[11:14] <fdr> jrib, thx, how do I do that?
[11:15] <iter> mariaaa: look at the post right below that one
[11:15] <jrib> fdr: just install xscreensaver, it should automatically remove gnome-screensaver
[11:15] <iter> mariaaa: step 3 may not be necessary
[11:15] <jrib> fdr: are you familiar with installing things using synaptic or apt-get?
[11:15] <DrBanzai> Hey all, I've got 2 different serial devices, neither of which is a modem.  One is a homebrew MP3 player, the other is my ethernet switch.  I know for a fact that the MP3 player does not need a null modem adapter, as it works great under Hyperterm without the null adapter.  I can't get either one to work under ubuntu, with minicom, nor gtkterm.  Any advice?
[11:15] <pluma> iter: on Wikipedia subdomains I get ";; reply from unexpected source: 217.237.150.188#53, expected 192.168.0.254:53". wikipedia.org works normal.
[11:15] <fdr> jrib, yup, apt-get install xscreensaver
[11:16] <mariaaa> iter , sorry :P , that means that now i must restart (sorry i dont understand so much english)
[11:16] <Routh> ompaul: KDE and Gnome should be able to run in a 128mb environment - What about said alternate-install cd - I assume it's available for download on the ubuntu servers... does it have the old text based install?
[11:16] <ompaul> Routh, afik it does
[11:16] <pluma> iter: that IP seems to be the ISP. At least it's a German server.
[11:16] <fdr> jrib, but it didnt remove gnome-screensaver.... now, how I do I get the old settings panel, please?
[11:17] <ompaul> Routh, the ultimate is to install the "server" version and add >> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop << after that
[11:17] <iter> pluma: right, that definitely sounds like a router problem then
[11:17] <iter> pluma: try without the router to test
[11:17] <iter> pluma: plug that ubuntu box straight into your modem or put it in the dmz
[11:17] <pluma> iter: how? I don't have a modem card and the router is, like, a hundred meters away.
[11:17] <pluma> iter: dmz?
[11:18] <Tangent1> alright
[11:18] <Routh> ompaul: ok - I was attempting that but could not seem to get the install cd to like the command - documentation just says type server and go - which would work on the breezy cd - but on the dapper cd it gives me an error
[11:18] <iter> pluma: yeah router should have a dmz function to expose an internal IP to the net
[11:18] <Tangent1> it went to the disk partitioning tool
[11:18] <jrib> fdr: oh, maybe it lets you install both... I would remove gnome-screensaver then.  Do you have more than one screensaver option in your menu now?
[11:18] <Tangent1> how should I configure it for the boot loader?
[11:18] <pluma> It's a DrayTek Vigor2200 router if that helps =P
[11:18] <ompaul> Routh, I would not run ubuntu (GNOME) without 256megs and I note the install cd suggest 192megs
[11:18] <iter> Tangent1: you don't want to partition anything at all
[11:18] <pluma> What's DMZ short for?
[11:18] <iter> pluma: demilitarized zone heh
[11:18] <Tangent1> iter, I hit "Install GRUB Boot Loader on a Hard Disk"
[11:18] <ompaul> Routh, the server cd is all command line
[11:18] <Tangent1> and it went to the partitioner
[11:19] <fdr> no, in system->preferences i only have one screensaver entry
[11:19] <ompaul> Routh, or ncurses to be more accurate
[11:19] <pmj> trying again: a few .list files in /var/lib/dpkg/info had been corrupted and fsck deleted them. Now apt-get won't work anymore. Is there any way I can rebuild these files?
[11:19] <iter> Tangent1: just try to click thru without making any changes
[11:19] <ebel> I've just installed powerpc ubuntu on my iBook, and I can't access any usb storage devices. my usb mouse and wifi dongle work fine.
[11:19] <tepus6> what eyecandy is out there for ubuntu besides xgl/compiz?
[11:19] <Routh> ompaul: alright so either way I need a different cd
[11:19] <Tangent1> I need a boot loader though
[11:19] <pluma> iter: found it. What should I add as IP?
[11:19] <jrib> fdr: try 'killall gnome-panel'
[11:19] <iter> pluma: the internal ip of your ubuntu machine
[11:19] <ompaul> Routh, I think so
[11:19] <Tangent1> so are you saying to go through without installing one, or to just go through with defaults?
[11:20] <iter> pluma: also you'll have to put the isp's dns servers in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:20] <ompaul> Routh, and for speed do it this way
[11:20] <fdr> still the same
[11:20] <pluma> iter: right. Sometimes I'm stupid. Okay, got it. Now what? Save and reconnect and see whether it changed anything?
[11:20] <ompaul> Routh, server then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:20] <adelfino> hi, I received my ubuntu cds some days ago
[11:20] <adelfino> but I can't boot any of them :/
[11:20] <fdr> jrib, nothing changed...
[11:21] <ompaul> Routh, does that box have a seperate video card?
[11:21] <iter> Tangent1: if you can get to a shell you can just do grub-install
[11:21] <iter> Tangent1: otherwise you want to install grub
[11:21] <adelfino> is there any know issue about booting 6.06 LTS?
[11:21] <sethk> fdr, there is also xscreensaver-data and gnome-xscreensaver
[11:21] <iter> Tangent1: but not make any other changes
[11:21] <adelfino> *known
[11:21] <Routh> ompaul: yes
[11:21] <lamego> adelfino, could you drescribe your problem ?
[11:21] <lamego> adelfino, are you using old hw ?
[11:21] <adelfino> lamego, nop
[11:21] <sethk> fdr, someone already said that earlier, sorry, I hadn't noticed
[11:22] <ompaul> Routh, that is good so you will not be sharing your ram with the video card
[11:22] <iter> pluma: save the info on the router and in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:22] <ebel> No-one knows how to get usb storage to work?
[11:22] <iter> pluma: do /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:22] <lamego> ok, some people have reported they were unable to boot using the server kernel
[11:22] <iter> pluma: try ping google.com
[11:22] <pluma> iter: What should I change in /etc/resolv.conf then?
[11:22] <fdr> sethk, thanks, but xscreensaver-data is already installed and gnome-xscreensaver doesn't exist...
[11:22] <Corporal_Dirge> !java
[11:22] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:22] <Tangent1> alright
[11:22] <tepus6> what eyecandy is out there for ubuntu besides xgl/compiz?
[11:22] <Tangent1> iter, I'll run a shell from the install cd
[11:22] <lamego> adelfino, were you able to install it, but not to boot ? does it hangs just after showing grub ?
[11:22] <Routh> ompaul: No I thought of that - the pain is I just want to get the system running - the ram will be upgraded in a couple weeks - till then I just want to get it going for coding...
[11:22] <jrib> fdr: the screensaver that is there still takes you to the limited dialog?
[11:22] <adelfino> lamego, I'll show you my mobo info in a sec.
[11:23] <sethk> fdr, xscreensaver-gnome, not gnome-xscreensaver, sorry
[11:23] <adelfino> lamego, I can't boot it
[11:23] <fdr> jrib, yes
[11:23] <adelfino> lamego, if I can't boot it, I can't install it ;)
[11:23] <gnomefreak> fdr: install xscreensaver-data-extra :)
[11:23] <ompaul> Routh, so get the server cd already :)
[11:23] <sethk> fdr, also, xscreensaver-gl
[11:23] <lamego> adelfino, ok :P
[11:23] <lamego> adelfino, you mean boot from the cd, not from the hd :P
[11:23] <pluma> iter: should I add anything in my /etc/resolv.conf?
[11:24] <sethk> fdr, also rss-glx
[11:24] <adelfino> lamego, exactly
[11:24] <DrBanzai> Hey all, I've got 2 different serial devices, neither of which is a modem.  One is a homebrew MP3 player, the other is my ethernet switch.  I know for a fact that the MP3 player does not need a null modem adapter, as it works great under Hyperterm without the null adapter.  I can't get either one to work under ubuntu, with minicom, nor gtkterm.  Any advice?
[11:24] <Tangent1> alright, iter, grub-install is not a recognized command in the ash shell, apparently
[11:24] <jrib> sethk, gnomefreak: he installed xscreensaver because he wants the options dialog for his screensavers, but it doesn't seem to have changed his menu entry for the screensaver (it still takes him to the limited gnome dialog)
[11:24] <Tangent1> I'll try again though
[11:24] <adelfino> my mobo: http://www.soyousa.com/products/proddesc.php?id=273
[11:25] <sethk> jrib, odd.  is that why you suggested removing xscreensaver-gnome?
[11:25] <adelfino> I could boot the previous version of ubuntu
[11:25] <lamego> adelfino, a which stage doest it hangs ?
[11:25] <zoidberg> does anyone know how to make the buttons work on G3 powerbook
[11:25] <pilgrim> How do I upgrade a package?
[11:25] <zoidberg> the voluem and brightness buttons
[11:25] <zoidberg> ?
[11:26] <jrib> sethk: I assumed they would conflict and it would get removed originally.  But I just suggested removing it afterwards because I didn't see the point in having both installed
[11:26] <fdr> installed all that, did a killall gnome-panel, but i still only have the limited panel
[11:26] <lamego> pilgrim, you go to synaptic and mark it to be upgrade if there is an upgrade available
[11:26] <fdr> :-(
[11:26] <adelfino> lamego, my BIOS says something like: Reading
[11:26] <ebel> zoidberg, I can get them to work with the fuction key.
[11:26] <adelfino> lamego, then it just boots my hd
[11:26] <zoidberg> no you cant
[11:26] <adelfino> lamego, it's like the cds were damaged or something
[11:26] <adelfino> lamego, but the cd drive works ok with other cds
[11:26] <lamego> adelfino, have you used the check cd option, just to be sure ?
[11:26] <ebel> zoidberg, well that works for me on my g4 ibook. Now if only i could get a usb dongle to work...
[11:27] <adelfino> lamego, and this ubuntu cds are brand-new
[11:27] <jrib> fdr: I would try removing gnome-screensaver, then reinstall xscreensaver
[11:27] <carlos> i have a problem
[11:27] <adelfino> lamego, yes ;)
[11:27] <lamego> adelfino, ah, you are unable to boot from the cd at all ? no boot menu presenting an install option ?
[11:27] <zoidberg> i thought there was a pacakge for it though?
[11:27] <Routh> ompaul: I'm curious - will the alternate install cd work the same as installing the server cd and then installing desktop? or what is the alternate install cd?
[11:27] <adelfino> lamego, exactly
[11:27] <sethk> adelfino, if some cds boot, but others don't, there is (obviously) at least partly a cd issue
[11:27] <iter> pluma: you have to put your isp dns ips in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:27] <adelfino> lamego, I see nothing from the cd
[11:27] <sethk> adelfino, have you checked the bios setup for the boot order
[11:27] <pluma> iter: what would that be then? I mean, how do I find it out?
[11:28] <iter> pluma: you should be able to see them in router webadmin page
[11:28] <fdr> jrib, i'm trying a apt-get remove gnome-screensaver, but that wants to remove ubuntu-desktop as well... doesn't sound like a good idea to me, is it?
[11:28] <lamego> adelfino, are you sure the iso file was properly burned to the cd and that the bios is properly setup to boot from the cd also, ?
[11:28] <adelfino> sethk, yes
[11:28] <carlos> i have installed ubuntu 606 in my acer travelmate 4670 laptop, when i log on the keyboard change the settings that i put, how can i do to configure it right? i have an 88-89 key keyboard, do you have any idea?
[11:28] <sethk> adelfino, because, it's possible it will only boot a cd if there is nothing to boot on the ide drive.  You eliminated that possibility?
[11:28] <jrib> !ubunu-desktop
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubunu-desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <adelfino> lamego, bios is ok, and I received the cds from order
[11:28] <ompaul> Routh, it will have you not downloaded it already?
[11:28] <jrib> !ubuntu-desktop
[11:28] <lamego> fdr, ubuntu-deskto is just a meta-package, it will not remove all the packages contained on it...
[11:28] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[11:28] <ebel> zoidberg, I think the gtkpbbuttons or pbbuttons package i for those fancy buttons.
[11:28] <grub> hi
[11:28] <adelfino> sethk, yes
[11:28] <grub> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[11:28] <sethk> adelfino, do you have another box you can try booting the cd on?
[11:28] <Tangent1> hey iter, no matter what I select in the menu it keeps going to the partitioner
[11:28] <Flannel> !ops
[11:28] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[11:28] <sethk> adelfino, the fact that you ordered the cd doesn't really prove much
[11:28] <adelfino> sethk, nop
[11:28] <Flannel> oh, nevermind.  bother.
[11:28] <lamego> adelfino, ok, i am out of ideas, you could try to boot on other system just to check if it is a problem with the cds
[11:29] <dcstimm> adelfino, you can find the time yesterday with filesys and linux.img
[11:29] <sethk> adelfino, if you tell it explicitly to boot from cd, what happens?
[11:29] <fdr> lamego, yes, but i don't want to remove it just for changing a screensaver dialog... there must be a cleaner solution...
[11:29] <Tangent1> would grub-install work on a Vector linux Live CD?
[11:29] <Routh> ompaul: nope - just have the desktop cd - I'm going to try the alternate install
[11:29] <dcstimm> adelfino, if not then just digg the file results and hit the vmlinuz with two cd cd
[11:29] <adelfino> sethk, proves that I didn't burn the ISO image wrong
[11:29] <Tangent1> because that's the only live CD I have handy at the present
[11:29] <pluma> iter: it only shows some IP for the WAN.
[11:29] <RichiH> Flannel: i am here, btw
[11:29] <RichiH> (/me is freenode staff)
[11:29] <zoidberg> thhax
[11:29] <ompaul> Routh, I am trying to find you a doc that will tell you the differences
[11:29] <adelfino> sethk, the bios can't boot ubuntu cds
[11:29] <dcstimm> adelfino, I figured the same with the aug 2 config with the iso squash
[11:29] <ompaul> Flannel, that he is
[11:29] <iter> pluma: look around, it's in there somewhere
[11:29] <adelfino> sethk, at least 6.06
[11:29] <zoidberg> apparently the FN key does work
[11:30] <iter> pluma: otherwise you can get it from your isp's website probably
[11:30] <Flannel> RichiH: yeah, I just didn't see any action (because rrk left last - purely on his own accord) and it disguised it!
[11:30] <sethk> adelfino, unless you can boot your 6.06 cd on another box, you haven't proved that it is a version issue
[11:30] <adelfino> dcstimm, and how did you solve it?
[11:30] <zoidberg> now guys i'm having trouble installing SCUMMVM on this powerpc machine i have
[11:30] <RichiH> ompaul: oi :)
[11:30] <RichiH> how is you?
[11:30] <dcstimm> adelfino, running mkisofs
[11:30] <fdr> or maybe there is another way to get what I want... what I'd like is simply to have some jpeg in a directory to be used as screensaver... how can I do that please?
[11:30] <ompaul> RichiH, good take it to pms in a moment I'll just keep that one banned
[11:30] <iter> Tangent1: pretty much any cd that can get you to a shell account will work
[11:31] <shawnr_> How can i extract the mpeg from a vcd bin/cue image ?
[11:31] <iter> Tangent1: as long as you can mount your hdd and run grub-install
[11:31] <Tangent1> alright\
[11:31] <zoidberg> i type in apt-get install scummvm and it says i dont have libflac6?
[11:31] <Tangent1> the hard drive mounts
[11:31] <Tangent1> I just don't know if I can run grub-install
[11:31] <UbuntuBantu> hi folks.  I'm looking to create a shared file access area (a whole partition, formatted ext3) r/w by all users.  Anyone able to tell me how to go about it?
[11:31] <iter> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-using-grub_002dinstall.html#Installing-GRUB-using-grub_002dinstall
[11:31] <zoidberg> can anyone help me out?
[11:31] <pluma> iter: found it. It's the origin of the unexpected replies when digging the domains that time out.
[11:32] <sethk> UbuntuBantu, nfs
[11:32] <sethk> UbuntuBantu, would be the usual way.
[11:32] <ebel> zoidberg, and it doesn't try to install libflac6 when you apt-get?
[11:32] <sethk> UbuntuBantu, accessing the files from more than one machine, but all running linux (or *nix)
[11:32] <RichiH> Flannel: yah
[11:32] <NineTeen67Comet> Anyone know a handy utility to record your desktop?
[11:33] <ompaul> RichiH, my lifestory in a pm there to you :)
[11:33] <jrib> NineTeen67Comet: istanbul
[11:33] <NineTeen67Comet> jrib: thanks .. um .. unless you mean the Country .. lol
[11:33] <pluma> iter: In other words, dig is bitching when the router directs me to the external DNS rather than answering directly when looking up a domain name?
[11:33] <sethk> zoidberg, that file does not occur, at least not in a breezy package
[11:33] <khobar> !paste
[11:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:33] <InkChild> I'm really really sorry to bother but I couldm't explain to google what i need to ask
[11:33] <jrib> NineTeen67Comet: nope, it's a package in universe :)
[11:33] <shawnr_> How can i extract the mpeg from a vcd bin/cue image ?
[11:33] <sethk> zoidberg, what is the exact message?
[11:33] <zoidberg> hold on sethk
[11:33] <iter> pluma: yep
[11:33] <pluma> iter: is there a way to have the unexpected replies recognised as correct replies?
[11:34] <zoidberg> i will paste it in pastebin
[11:34] <InkChild> How do i mount hdb in ubuntu for every user?
[11:34] <carlos> hello guys, i have installed ubuntu 606, 686 kernel, i have an acer travelmate laptop, the laptope comes with a 88-89 key keyboard, do you know how to configure it in ubuntu?
[11:34] <UbuntuBantu> sethk: it will predominantly be one machine, but there may also be an xp box involved. also, may need to write directly to the drive if this box is ever dual booted again - hence my choosing ext3 (i understand you can write ext2 in xp with the correct drivers installed)
[11:34] <pluma> iter: like, could I add the IP as another nameserver in resolv.conf? And is there a way to have that updated automatically if the external DNS changes?
[11:34] <InkChild> I mean, How do i mount hdb so that the currently logged in user can write to it without sudo?
[11:35] <sethk> UbuntuBantu, I believe so, but that means a dual booted xp installation, not reading from an ext3 on some other box
[11:35] <Flannel> InkChild: change umask in fstab
[11:35] <InkChild> umask=what?
[11:35] <sethk> UbuntuBantu, to read/write from both windows and linux you are mostly stuck with samba.
[11:35] <iter> pluma: get rid of 192.168.0.254 in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:35] <jrib> InkChild: depends on the filesystem
[11:35] <iter> pluma: put your isp dns in instead
[11:35] <InkChild> vfat
[11:35] <sethk> UbuntuBantu, unless you know that the xp requirement will always be on the machine where the file system is installed
[11:35] <Flannel> InkChild: it's opposite of file permissions, 0000 means they get 777 permissions
[11:35] <InkChild> so umask=0000
[11:36] <UbuntuBantu> sethk: any way I can do both? I have two NAS devices and two PC's running. one of them will remain w2k3 for the moment until the data has been backed up
[11:36] <InkChild> ... let me try
[11:36] <sethk> UbuntuBantu, samba let's you read/write windows shares from linux
[11:36] <pluma> iter: but wouldn't that have to be updated manually whenever the DNS' IP changes? There has to be a workaround for that.
[11:36] <sethk> UbuntuBantu, there are NFS packages for windows as well
[11:36] <iter> pluma: yes and if their dns changes that often you need a new isp
[11:37] <iter> pluma: the workaround is to use dhcp
[11:37] <pluma> iter: Okay ;)
[11:37] <UbuntuBantu> sethk: sometimes I'd like to push fdata from anoher machine, other times pull data from this box
[11:37] <|DuReX|>  hi guys, i got a problem, my server (remote server) has high loads, and i can't ssh anymore, and now i need to reboot it, when i do ssh -v host, i see "debug1: Connection established." any way to reboot it ?
[11:37] <sethk> pluma, the usual way is for the dns to be fetched from the ISP using dhcp
[11:37] <iter> pluma: you could setup ubuntu to use dhcp and put the ubuntu ip in as the dmz host in the router
[11:37] <pluma> iter: I'll try that then. Brb in case I get d/c'ed.
[11:37] <UbuntuBantu> sethk: does nfs carry a significant performance hit?
[11:38] <greyscale> ldd: lib/ld-linux.so.2 exited with an unknown exit code <-- WTF please help T_T
[11:38] <iter> pluma: then it would auto-update &c
[11:38] <sethk> UbuntuBantu, any read/write across the network has some performance consequences, but nfs is quite efficient.
[11:38] <pluma> iter: Hay! It works.
[11:39] <iter> pluma: word
[11:39] <iter> now can I get a cheer for FOSS
[11:39] <UbuntuBantu> sethk: if I format the partition nfs it will be writeable from ubuntu installed on the machine the drive resides in and from xp if i dual boot on the same machine?
[11:39] <pluma> iter: I don't want the machine to be that seperate from the network, so DMZ is not an option atm. Also, I need a static internal IP for the NAT.
[11:39] <|DuReX|> somebody has any id ?
[11:39] <pluma> FOSS?
[11:39] <pluma> iter, you made my week.
[11:39] <iter> pluma: ok just manually update dns when/if it changes
[11:39] <pluma> Oh, right. F/OSS.
[11:39] <iter> pluma: my isp's havent' changed in years
[11:39] <sethk> UbuntuBantu, that isn't how nfs works.  nfs provides network access to a file system.  The local file system can be just about any supported type, although I'd recommend ext3
[11:40] <TheGateKeeper> !nfs > UbuntuBantu
[11:40] <zoidberg> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21238
[11:40] <zoidberg> sethk, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21238
[11:40] <UbuntuBantu> sethk: if i stayed with ext3 and always used this box to pull data from the other pc's that'd solve the issue?
[11:40] <greyscale> ldd: lib/ld-linux.so.2 exited with an unknown exit code <-- WTF please help T_T
[11:40] <InkChild> thanks it worked
[11:40] <sethk> UbuntuBantu, yes, as long as we aren't overlooking a windows access from some other box
[11:41] <sethk> UbuntuBantu, and given that you install ext3 drivers on the windows side
[11:41] <sethk> UbuntuBantu, and, given that you don't want to access the files from some other box when xp is running on the box with the local file system
[11:41] <UbuntuBantu> sethk: i can push data to the other windoze boxes through the windows network
[11:41] <InkChild> however I realized I wanted something slightly different, i wanted to be owner of these files, i found a way to do it, setting uid=myname
[11:41] <sethk> UbuntuBantu, yes, true.
[11:41] <sethk> UbuntuBantu, and samba let's you do this from linux in either direction, if necessary
[11:42] <pluma> iter: So how come the problem didn't occur for most domains? Surely it can't be router-side caching, as I accessed Wikipedia from my Windows box while trying to track down the foo.
[11:42] <InkChild> tho, i'm afraid it will only work with MY account
[11:42] <zoidberg> sethk, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21238
[11:42] <InkChild> it will do for now
[11:42] <InkChild> thankyou
[11:42] <iter> pluma: man I dunno about your router, but it is definitely a router dns issue
[11:42] <exs> Can evolution or thunderbird notify me of new email if I do not launch them first?
[11:42] <jjack23> Does anybody know a way I can capture metadata from an image or photograph to try and see who the original image was made by or where it came from?
[11:42] <sethk> zoidberg, I don't find a package named libflac6.  doesn't exist, at least not for breezy.
[11:43] <sethk> zoidberg, this looks like a package configuration error in scummvm
[11:43] <Tangent1> iter, I can't get my Vector live CD to do it
[11:43] <YeTr2_> any way of keeping ubuntu from starting up xorg while at grub?
[11:43] <UbuntuBantu> sethk: ok thx. I'm in the process of migrating all my drives from ntfs to ext3, except the dual boot partition (should I be forced to install wxp again)
[11:44] <Tangent1> I don't know what I'm going to do about this
[11:44] <iter> Tangent1: you get a shell ?
[11:44] <Tangent1> my boot loader is clearly gone
[11:44] <pluma> iter: The rooter is dreck, but I don't really have any say about that and don't feel like reconfiguring a new one from scratch, or buying one in the first place.
[11:44] <Tangent1> I got to a shell
[11:44] <lamego> YeTr2_, booting into recovery mode ?
[11:44] <sethk> UbuntuBantu, ok.  you know, I assume, that writing to ntfs from linux is a bad idea.
[11:44] <Tangent1> but grub-install is not avaiable
[11:44] <jrib> jjack23: you could open it with a text editor
[11:44] <zoidberg> so is there anyway i can fix it?
[11:44] <sethk> UbuntuBantu, natively; writing to ntfs over the net using samba is ok
[11:44] <Tangent1> I should have a gentoo cd here some where
[11:44] <jjack23> jrib, thanks
[11:44] <zoidberg> sethk, any suggestions?
[11:44] <UbuntuBantu> sethk: yes, hence my wanting to kill ntfs altogether
[11:44] <Tangent1> but I'm kinda screwed if I don't... I can't burn CDs on this computer
[11:44] <iter> Tangent1: do you have a floppy drive?
[11:44] <sethk> zoidberg, the second problem, on the apt-get, is just a case of two programs trying to grab the same lock file at the same time.
[11:44] <iter> Tangent1:  you can put grub installer on a boot floppy
[11:44] <Tangent1> there's not a floppy on the other computer
[11:44] <sethk> zoidberg, you need sudo during the apt-get; that's what caused the problem on the apt-get a couple of lines from the end
[11:44] <UbuntuBantu> sethk: my strategy is to copy data to a spare drive, reformat the source ntfs to ext3 and then copy the data back. I'll keep swinging through drives till I'm done and ntfs is a thing of the past
[11:45] <zoidberg> u sure
[11:45] <zoidberg> alrifgt i will try that again
[11:45] <sethk> UbuntuBantu, sounds reasonable
[11:45] <Tangent1> ugh... I need to find this gentoo cd
[11:45] <greyscale> ldd: lib/ld-linux.so.2 exited with an unknown exit code <-- WTF please help T_T
[11:45] <Tangent1> the Ubuntu CD refuses to install GRUB
[11:45] <iter> Tangent1: does the other machine have a cdr drive?
[11:45] <Tangent1> yes, the other machine does
[11:45] <Tangent1> but this one doesn't
[11:45] <iter> ugh, so your working machine has no floppy or cdr
[11:46] <iter> what is it a thinkpad x30 ?
[11:46] <Tangent1> my working machine has a floppy, no cdr
[11:46] <zoidberg> sethk, i tried with sudo...it says libflac6 may be missing from the source and that it has no installations component
[11:46] <jjack23> jrib, nothing.
[11:46] <sethk> greyscale, that's bizarre.  looks like possibly a library version mismatch
[11:46] <jjack23> jrib, i can't understand any of it
[11:46] <Tangent1> the one I'm fixing is a Dell Inspiron 600m
[11:46] <zoidberg> sethk, i really need scummvm to work...is there anything i can do
[11:46] <sethk> zoidberg, ok, that goes along with what I said before, that there is no file containing the string libflac6 in any package
[11:46] <Tangent1> I don't know why Ubuntu's CD wants to keep going to teh partitioner
[11:46] <iter> Tangent1: so you can't burn cds at all right
[11:46] <Tangent1> I have a Warty CD around, might I try that?
[11:47] <sethk> zoidberg, let me think about it.
[11:47] <Tangent1> correct, iter
[11:47] <jrib> jjack23: it's usually on the third line, at least that is where it seems to be here.  There may not be any useful data in your image
[11:47] <sethk> Tangent1, because it doesn't think there are any partitions, most likely
[11:47] <jjack23> ok
[11:47] <Tangent1> but in the partitioner, it shows my hard drive with the partitions as they were before
[11:48] <iter> Tangent1: yes like I said everything is fine
[11:48] <jrib> jjack23: actually I just opened a few others and some were in the first line.  Using a text editor definitely seems to work, but you may want to do some research if you want to really understand how the data gets in there and where
[11:48] <iter> Tangent1: except the mbr
[11:48] <Tangent1> alright
[11:48] <jjack23> jrib, i think i may have found a web service but thanks
[11:48] <Tangent1> maybe I just have a bad CD or something
[11:48] <UbuntuBantu> sethk: one more (possibly very dumb question) - I have a drive formatted ext3 (/dev/sdd1), mounted as /media/Ext3Shared type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro). ATM only root can write to this partition - how do I set it so that any logged in user can write to it?
[11:48] <jrib> jjack23: hmm try this: exifprobe
[11:48] <Tangent1> I'll try finding the Gentoo cd and running it there, and I'll try the Warty Warthog cd
[11:48] <jjack23> ok
[11:48] <iter> Tangent1: if you can get to another cd-burner you can do something like burn the ultimate boot cd
[11:48] <iter> Tangent1: then use that to install another mbr-based bootloader
[11:49] <iter> so you can get into linux
[11:49] <tuxtux_> ciao
[11:49] <jjack23> jrib, i have to get that app, just a sec.
[11:49] <greyscale> sethk, how do I fix it?
[11:49] <jrib> jjack23: pngmeta also seems to be in the repos if your iamge is a png
[11:49] <pluma> zoidberg: ScummVM worked fine when I installed it a few days ago. Tried to install it via synaptic?
[11:49] <sethk> greyscale, I'm not sure.  did you do anything recently that provoked this?
[11:49] <acon> UbuntuBantu, what are the permissions on the root directory of the drive?
[11:49] <Pwnhack> */msg nickserv identify swordi1
[11:49] <greyscale> installing vmware XD
[11:49] <sethk> greyscale, do we know it's a working installation?
[11:50] <sethk> greyscale, oh, vmware, that's a wild card
[11:50] <greyscale> Yeah. its just vmware declares that twice and then dies
[11:50] <ebel> Pwnhack, might want to chang your password...
[11:50] <pluma> Good idea.
[11:50] <greyscale> lol
[11:50] <sethk> greyscale, we can find out which package has the  files in it (the ld-xxxx file and the ldd file) and try forcing reinstallation of those packages, but it's questionable whether it will do any bood
[11:50] <sethk> s/bood/good/
[11:51] <mytourdeforce> I'm having trouble running the live disk.  I boot from CD, and it still starts as XP.  Can anyone help me please?
[11:51] <iter> mytourdeforce: your bios is not setup to boot from cd
[11:51] <greyscale> sethk, thats funny. I'm actually running debian and that was more helpful than #debian was.
[11:51] <RadHatter> I am trying to enable Hebrew input so I tried to follow this wiki.ubuntu.com/HebrewInput but I'm not using GNOME but rather xubuntu (xfce). I was able to add a keyboard input indicator to the toolbar, but the keyboard preferences do not have anything to allow to add Hebrew input. How do I add Hebrew input? Can I maybe do it manually?
[11:51] <UbuntuBantu> acon: drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2006-08-20 20:57 . drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 4096 2006-08-21 01:37 .. drwx------ 2 root root 16384 2006-08-20 20:57 lost+found
[11:52] <sethk> greyscale, #debian seems to be mostly a bunch of sadists  :)
[11:52] <greyscale> I agree.
[11:52] <iter> pssh debian is cool
[11:52] <poundex> hi
[11:52] <poundex> Could anyone give me a hand updating GLib?
[11:52] <greyscale> it blowwwws
[11:52] <ompaul> iter, don't tell the ubuntu devs
[11:52] <DFM> pwnhack, change your password then type /msg nickserv identify followed by pw\
[11:53] <greyscale> s/sver/server
[11:53] <UbuntuBantu> acon: I'm guessing "drwxr-xr-x 3 root root" is what you're after
[11:53] <iter> ompaul: I'm pretty sure they all acknowledge the right tool for the right job mentality
[11:53] <iter> debian and ubuntu are both ok
[11:53] <sethk> iter, I wasn't talking about debian, I was talking about #debian
[11:53] <greyscale> The difference is you don't need to be souless to use ubuntu
[11:53] <Tweak> Anyone can tell me how I can make my wireless work ( HP Compaq nx6310 )
[11:53] <acon> UbuntuBantu, I'm guessing that the permissions are honoured, in the same way they are honoured for the root filesystem
[11:54] <DFM> tweak, are you using the built in or a card?
[11:54] <Tweak> built in
[11:54] <greyscale> tweak, please go to terminal and run "LSPCI"
[11:54] <UbuntuBantu> acon: okie, how do I change the permissions on the root of the filesystem - currently created and owned by root
[11:54] <mytourdeforce> Can someone please explain to me how to set my bios to boot from CD so I can run the live disk?
[11:54] <greyscale> and paste the line relevant to the card
[11:54] <DFM> i never could get mine to work so I bought a card that worked out of the box.
[11:54] <zoidberg> sethk, i just googled our problem and this guy says that he had to download libflac6 from debian testing...i'm guessing its a testing package still
[11:55] <zoidberg> sethk, u know where we can get it
[11:55] <YogSothoth> Hi
[11:55] <DFM> see if your wifi shows up using this command lspci -v
[11:55] <Tweak> greyscale: paste what line?
[11:55] <greyscale> DFM - I got lucky and coincidentally bought an RA2500
[11:55] <acon> Ubugtu, "chmod rwx ."
[11:55] <sethk> zoidberg, no, but find the .deb file, it should tell you.
[11:55] <YogSothoth> I'm really having a bad time here with xorg.conf :-(
[11:55] <greyscale> try PMing me the whole thing
[11:55] <DFM> you should be able to make it work
[11:55] <IceOwl> oh gawd. don't teach people to use rwx with chmod :(
[11:55] <ompaul> mytourdeforce, as your machine boots it should offer "press F1 or F12 or delete or some other key" to enter setup
[11:55] <mwe> mytourdeforce: enter the setup, usually by pressing F2 or something at boot. look for an option there.
[11:56] <acon> UbuntuBantu, "chmod +rwx /media/Ext3Shared"
[11:56] <IceOwl> it's all about the octal
[11:56] <sethk> mytourdeforce, every bios is a little different.  see if there is a "press a key to boot from" type prompt.  if not, go into setup and look for boot configuration
[11:56] <lostinc> how do you drop to a command line and out of a gui?
[11:56] <IceOwl> octal!
[11:56] <ompaul> mytourdeforce, then you get boot order and make machine boot from CDROM first
[11:56] <IceOwl> chmod 777 /media/Ext3Shared
[11:56] <greyscale> Tweak - Go to pastebin.ca and post it there
[11:56] <greyscale> and link it here
[11:57] <TheGateKeeper> lostinc: gnome --> terminal KDE --> konsol
[11:57] <Tweak> greyscale: just a second
[11:57] <bubu1uk> anyone made hamachi to work on ubuntu?
[11:57] <UbuntuBantu> Acon & IceOwel: thx
[11:57] <lostinc> TheGateKeeper I am attempting to use Xorg -configure and it tells me that the X server is already running
[11:57] <acon> UbuntuBantu, I'm sure there is some way to ignore permissions on the drive, and allow everyone to do as they wish, but I can't conjure the right incantations right now. Might want to look at the mount man page (man mount)
[11:57] <greyscale> DFM - I REALLY recommend the RA2500
[11:58] <mytourdeforce> ompaul, in Boot Sequence IDE CD-ROM Device is first, followed by Hard-Disk Drive C:
[11:58] <mytourdeforce> ompaul, that's how it should be, right?
[11:58] <UbuntuBantu> thx
[11:58] <lostinc> I cant get it to recognize my SIS760video card
[11:58] <ompaul> mytourdeforce, yes
[11:58] <IceOwl> UbuntuBantu: would you like to know why octal permissions are better than using letters?
[11:58] <DFM> I have read that it works but I had to search several stores b4 finding a d-link card that was on the list
[11:58] <ompaul> mytourdeforce, put the CD in there and start from there
[11:58] <acon> IceOwl, what's wrong with +rwx and co?
[11:58] <UbuntuBantu> IceOwl: easier to remember?
[11:58] <IceOwl> acon: it can be a headache if you're trying to be specific
[11:59] <UbuntuBantu> IceOwl: I remember reading aout it years ago when I first tried Linux
[11:59] <IceOwl> what if you want rw-r--r--, writing it in letters is going to be more difficult
[11:59] <weirdo> i cant seem to find instructions on creating .deb packages with checkinstall from .run files
[11:59] <weirdo> anyone help?
[11:59] <IceOwl> 644 is easier
[11:59] <UbuntuBantu> this is my first foray into Linux in about 4 years
[11:59] <acon> IceOwl, I find it easy when you want to change a subset of the permissions, like allow the group to write, but not change anything else
[11:59] <mytourdeforce> ompaul, PM please, I'm still having trouble.
[12:00] <pascal80> what is dapper-proposed repository
[12:00] <IceOwl> and knowing how to use octal isn't that difficult either.. just add. rwxrwxrwx corresponds to 421421421
[12:00] <TheGateKeeper> lostinc: Ctrl + Alt + 1 then type stopx ???
[12:00] <ompaul> mytourdeforce, keep it public - if someone else ever saw it then they can contribute
[12:00] <IceOwl> so, r+x = 5, r = 4, r = 4
[12:00] <lostinc> oh okay