[12:11] <mr_clark> How can I upgrade kde to 3.5.x easily?
[12:11] <Hawkwind> mr_clark: Add the correct repo to your sources.list
[12:11] <archangel_> I need some help anyone can. I am working on a friends pc (compaq Evo) trying to get him to make the switch to Kubuntu, I did install it for him, however I cant connect to the web
[12:11] <mr_clark> sorry. wrong channel.
[12:12] <mr_clark> I need a beer.
[12:12] <soulrider> archangel, what kind of connetion odes he have ?
[12:13] <archangel_> (using mine) cable etho
[12:14] <soulrider> so its like a pppoe connection right? :/
[12:14] <soulrider> hi SpAwN
[12:14] <archangel_> its registered and looks good under system settings
[12:14] <SpAwN> sup soulrider
[12:14] <archangel_> yeah, cable modem
[12:15] <soulrider> not pppoe then
[12:15] <soulrider> pppoe  is DSL
[12:15] <archangel_> oh, sorry
[12:15] <soulrider> i dont know how to configure cable modem, its not available in my country :P
[12:15] <soulrider> sorry :(
[12:15] <soulrider> maybe someone else can help you
[12:15] <archangel_> ahh
[12:15] <archangel_> thanx
[12:17] <archangel_> help
[12:17] <waspius> i have installed knemo but i cannot find how to add it on my panel..any help?
[12:17] <archangel_> help
[12:18] <D4rkly> anyone know where wine is installed ?
[12:19] <reddwolf> Does anyone know how i can get my system to boot up both linux and windows xp with out haveing to restart my machiine ever time
[12:19] <LouKall> quick question: how do i open a .rar?
[12:19] <D4rkly> vmware
[12:19] <reddwolf> i have linux on one hard drive ad xp on a another
[12:20] <archangel_> dont you can dude
[12:20] <archangel_> not on two drives
[12:21] <grothesk> LouKall: With ark or 'unrar e your.rar' on konsole.
[12:21] <reddwolf> i thought there would be some way to boot both and then just switch between the both
[12:22] <reddwolf> or is that on 1 hard drinve
[12:22] <reddwolf> *drive
[12:22] <archangel_> cool idea, but I'v only seen it ork on 1 drive
[12:23] <archangel_> sorry 4 the typos, holding my 4 month old
[12:23] <reddwolf> a friend of mine was teling there is some kind of os switching program ( thats ok)
[12:23] <archangel_> I just 2 minutes ago setup a dual boot
[12:24] <archangel_> but must restart
[12:24] <reddwolf> oh
[12:24] <reddwolf> some needs to come up with one that you don't need to reboot
[12:25] <archangel_> well, if its on one drve you can use them both together
[12:26] <reddwolf> how can i put kunbuto on the sam hard drive as my xp with out loosing data from the xp side
[12:27] <reddwolf> *same
[12:27] <archangel_> how big is your drive?
[12:27] <tobias> very simple i think
[12:27] <reddwolf> right now i have a 2 80 gigs and 1 160
[12:28] <reddwolf> 1 80 has xp and the other has linux
[12:28] <tobias> but my friend did it without me watching so i dont know the exact procedure, he made me a partition with the kubuntu install cd i think, 6gigs was more than enough he said :)
[12:28] <LouKall_> grothesk: it says unrar isnt a valid command
[12:30] <archangel_> if you want to split the drive in have it will work better (without risk of data loss) with a fresh install of windows and THEN install linux
[12:30] <archangel_> linux will automaticaly resize your partition
[12:30] <reddwolf> thats the thing my xp came on this computer
[12:31] <reddwolf> but i do have the back disk that i made from when i first started the xp up
[12:31] <archangel_> do you know how to install an os?
[12:32] <reddwolf> i normally run the install wizard
[12:32] <archangel_> both windows and linux is very simple
[12:32] <reddwolf> or let it auto play
[12:33] <archangel_> do you know how much of your drive is taken up?
[12:33] <archangel_> or used
[12:33] <reddwolf> not sure unless i reboot in to xp
[12:34] <reddwolf> but id you give me time i can cheak for ya
[12:34] <reddwolf> *if
[12:34] <SpAwN> hello all....i was goin to install xgl and then decided not to.....i added some xgl deb repos to my sources.list then did apt-get update then did apt-get dist-upgrade ...it installed some packges......then in the howto it said to do this "apt-get install libgl1-mesa libgl1-mesa-dri libglu1-mesa mesa-utils" ....eevery was good ......this is when i decided to not install xgl.....so i removed the xgl deb repos and went to uninstall some
[12:34] <SpAwN> of the things it said to install and then i get this : http://pastebin.ulteo.us/63 ...can anyone please help me resolve this...i realy dont want to reinstall kubuntu
 brb i'm going to cheak to see what is left over
[12:36] <archangel_> ok
[12:37] <archangel_> Hey folks, you need a 19" widescreen lcd
[12:37] <archangel_> itif everyone had one, it verywell could bring world peace
[12:37] <looktj> what better? kubuntu or ubuntu?
[12:38] <archangel_> kubuntu for me
[12:38] <archangel_> gnome sucks
[12:38] <archangel_> lol, but I'm bias
[12:38] <h3sp4wn> the latest gnome uses mono (i.e .NET - which definately is a dark path)
[12:39] <archangel_> cant do as much with it
[12:39] <looktj> so kubuntu?
[12:40] <Freddy2> simply try both.. gnome vs kde
[12:40] <archangel_> people use gnome, not cause they like it, but out of pitty
[12:40] <looktj> i have gnome
[12:40] <archangel_> try kde and see what you think
[12:40] <Freddy2> but in this channel is simple to know the answer for most people.. xD
[12:40] <looktj> commmand to install kde?
[12:40] <archangel_> judge yourself
[12:40] <h3sp4wn> then use e17
[12:41] <archangel_> I can only give you my opinion
[12:41] <excitatory> looktj: install the kubuntu-desktop package
[12:41] <excitatory> looktj: but wait..
[12:42] <looktj> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[12:42] <excitatory> looktj: from a command line, type, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[12:42] <excitatory> nah, use aptitude
[12:42] <archangel_> Freddy2: can you set up a cable modem connection?
[12:42] <excitatory> it's far easier to remove meta packages if you don't like it..but you will..it's far more useable than gnome.
[12:43] <Freddy2> archangel_: you have drivers for the cablemodem?
[12:43] <looktj> im installing it
[12:43] <looktj> thanks
[12:43] <looktj> after install, reboot correct?
[12:43] <archangel_> Freddy2: its in kubuntu, I have never needed to install them
[12:43] <guerrerocarlos> hey, somebody knows how to make static binaries with KDEVELOP ?
[12:43] <robzilla> is amarok included on the desktop cd and will it work when booting from cd?
[12:43] <excitatory> looktj: nope, just log out, then choose kde as your session
[12:43] <Freddy2> hmm i've never had one of them.. i have adsl with router
[12:44] <excitatory> robzilla: yes
[12:44] <archangel_> Freddy2: I just installed a dual boot system on a compaq evo
[12:44] <archangel_> Freddy2: and it has thrown me off, I have needed to 'set up' a connection
[12:44] <robzilla> excitatory: cheers
[12:44] <looktj> excitatory: oh ok, thanks for help
[12:45] <reddwolf> hello archangel i have 39.6 left on the hard drive that has xpalready on it
[12:45] <Freddy2> how do you connect to the cablemodem? usb? ethernet?
[12:45] <reddwolf> and thats in gb
[12:45] <archangel_> Freddy2: oops I mean I have never needed to set one up
[12:45] <looktj> sopport for kde is better in my opinion
[12:45] <archangel_> ethernet
[12:45] <looktj> support*
[12:45] <Freddy2> but it's a real modem, or internally acts like a router?
[12:45] <robzilla> so booting from a cd, i should be able to use a mac formatted ipod, seeing as we have hfs support?
[12:45] <excitatory> looktj: yea, no prob.  personally, i don't care for the 'look' of kubuntu at first glance.. but you can customize it so many ways..so please don't be turned off..but then again.. many people love how it looks by default..so..idk.. give it a shot.
[12:46] <waspius> does anyone know the command that cleans up your system from unneeded files??i think it goes something like sudo apt-get autocleanup or something
[12:46] <SpAwN> can anyone help me resolve this horrible problem?
[12:47] <archangel_> real modem connection to internal ethernet card
[12:47] <breaker> alguien habla espaol
[12:47] <excitatory> looktj: yea, and kde is far easier to customize.. also, if you change one thing, it affects the look and feel for all of your apps, which makes your system feel familiar and consistent.  and if you do need gtk apps, they look great in kde if you install the gtk2-engines-gtk-qt package.. whereas gnome has a hard time making qt apps look nice..
[12:47] <Freddy2> are you sure it's not a "cable-router"?
[12:47] <Freddy2> !es
[12:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:48] <archangel_> I dont have a router
[12:48] <archangel_> just a modem
[12:48] <Freddy2> so you need to use PPPoE? or PPPoA?
[12:48] <archangel_> no network
[12:49] <archangel_> hmm which one is dsl?
[12:49] <RawSushi> what's some good DVD burning software?
[12:49] <looktj> that's cool
[12:49] <reddwolf> phone
[12:49] <reddwolf> i'm over the phone
[12:49] <Freddy2> archangel_: wheren't you talking about "cable" modem? dsl now?
[12:50] <reddwolf> i'm not on a phone modem arroy
[12:50] <reddwolf> *sorry
[12:50] <Freddy2> but you have cable or dsl?
[12:50] <guerrerocarlos> ubotu: is it so obvius what our mother language isn't english :P LOL
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is it so obvius what our mother language isn't english :P LOL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <archangel_> no I wasnt sure if you knew what the cable modem ppp was, sorry
[12:51] <guerrerocarlos> aaaahh it a BOT, LOL
[12:51] <looktj> Select the desired default display manager
[12:51] <looktj> gdm or kdm?
[12:51] <archangel_> I was going to say whichever is dsl.... I need the oposite
[12:51] <Freddy2> i'm not in front of kubuntu.. i have it at work, so now i can't tell you exactly what to do with it
[12:52] <looktj> i go with kdm
[12:52] <reddwolf> me i have cabel
[12:52] <excitatory> looktj: either one works..
[12:52] <archangel_> crap
[12:52] <ubuntu> sup
[12:52] <archangel_> everything looks fine, I dont see a problem
[12:52] <reddwolf> angel did you get my message from when i loged back in
[12:53] <archangel_> no I didnt sorry dude
[12:53] <reddwolf> i have 39.6 gb left on the hard drive with xp on it
[12:54] <archangel_> ahh, you should be ok then
[12:54] <reddwolf> ok
[12:54] <reddwolf>  but would i lose the data that i already have though
[12:54] <archangel_> just pop in the kubuntu (or whatever) linux cd and reboot
[12:54] <reddwolf> if i put kubuntu on with it
[12:54] <archangel_> no you shouldnt    :o)
[12:55] <reddwolf> ok i will have to try that
[12:55] <cilkay> Hello. I'm installing on an IBM ThinkPad and notice I have the option of creating an IBM ThinkPad Hibernation filesystem. I have 512M of RAM. I presume I should specify 512M as the partition size. I'm being asked for a mount point. Does it matter what I specify? I was thinking of using /mnt/hibernate
[12:55] <JustTryingKubunt> Hey, i am VERY new to linux but just wanted to let everyone know im lovin it!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:55] <reddwolf> if you don't see me on for a bit thats what i'm doing
[12:55] <reddwolf> later folks
[12:55] <reddwolf> and thanks for you help angel
[12:56] <archangel_> sure....  linux will sugest what it thinks
[12:56] <nikkun> Anyone here know if i am runnign 32bit Kubuntu under a 64bit chip does the k7 kernel give me optimization or not?
[12:56] <archangel_> about the size and all
[12:56] <fritsch> nikkun: good question
[12:57] <nikkun> fritsch: do you know?
[12:57] <archangel_> just make sure your swap file is dowuble your ram
[12:57] <fritsch> nikkun: the devs are just debatting, to still only have -386 kernel version for edgy
[12:57] <archangel_> double
[12:57] <fritsch> nikkun: is it a Duo Core Processor?
[12:57] <nikkun> fritsch: Im running 32bit kubuntu under a Athlong 64 3000+
[12:58] <fritsch> nikkun: i always installed the -k7 image ;-) so it makes "psychological" difference at least
[12:58] <cilkay> archangel_: specifying double the swap space of RAM isn't a hard and fast rule. On low memory machines, you might want even more. On high memory machines, it would be pointless.
[12:58] <fritsch> nikkun: just try it: sudo apt-get install linux-image-k7 linux-headers-k7 linux-restricted-modules-k7
[12:58] <cilkay> On Windows that seems to be the general rule though.
[12:59] <fritsch> cilkay: n linux you say: at least Ram + Video Bios ;-)
[12:59] <nikkun> fritsch: im not worried about it crashing im just wondering if it will increase anything or if it will mearly make things worse
[12:59] <fritsch> cilkay: for using suspend to disk
[12:59] <nikkun> since i recompile most of kde
[12:59] <fritsch> nikkun: why?
[12:59] <cilkay> fritsch: why do you need double the RAM for suspend?
[12:59] <archangel_> true, but having a 80 gig hard drive I thought would put his pc in that catagory  cilkay
[12:59] <fritsch> cilkay: don`t need
[01:00] <fritsch> cilkay: just one time ram + Video Card Ram
[01:00] <fritsch> cilkay: this was the rule in earlier days, with suspend2 everthing changed ...
[01:00] <cilkay> fritsch: thanks
[01:00] <Hawkwind> Now days, if you have 512MB or more of RAM, then all you need is 512MB of swap.  If you have less than 512MB of RAM, then you should double it for your swap
[01:00] <nikkun> fritsch: cause i run on a laptop and i have seen more speed after recompiling it. At least i did when i used it with a Pentuim 4 3Ghz  but that one i knew i could use the i686 kernel
[01:01] <cilkay> There's a Pentium 4.3GHz?
[01:01] <fritsch> nikkun: you just did sudo apt-get -b package
[01:01] <fritsch> nikkun: ? (missing)
[01:01] <nikkun> fritsch: yah
[01:01] <looktj> hey back
[01:01] <fritsch> nikkun: this does not make sence ;-)
[01:01] <archangel_> 64 bit kernal is cool, but good luck on getting flash to work in your browser
[01:01] <nikkun> fritsch: wait what dosent?
[01:01] <fritsch> nikkun: because you did not Change important C Flags
[01:01] <looktj> the keyy reppeating iitself
[01:01] <looktj> ommg
[01:02] <Hawkwind> cilkay: He said a Pentium 4  3GHz box
[01:02] <fritsch> nikkun: the rebuilding is more ore less senceless
[01:02] <fritsch> nikkun: you have to optimize the C Flags in the packages
[01:02] <looktj> hellpp please
[01:02] <nikkun> fritsch: really cause it made a difference
[01:02] <jens> Hi everybody. I have just installed Ubuntu 6.06.1 + kubuntu-desktop after a SuSE upgrade 10.0 -> 10.1 failed miserably ... and I have a question: When I insert a CDROM KDE shows it in media:/ for a second and then it vanishes again. Any idea what could be going wrong?
[01:02] <fritsch> nikkun: for making use of you specific features
[01:02] <fritsch> nikkun: mmmh
[01:02] <looktj> what do i do?
[01:02] <cilkay> archangel_: can you run 32 bit Flash/browser combo?
[01:03] <nikkun> fritsch: i think jsut the kernel change made it faster when i recompiled? or does it not work that way?
[01:03] <fritsch> archangel_: you are using a chroot or?
[01:03] <fritsch> nikkun: no i don`t think so
[01:03] <fritsch> nikkun: but i f you know better? i can`t say exactly
[01:03] <archangel_> I was unable to run flash with my 64 bit install
[01:03] <looktj> helppp soomone jjeez
[01:04] <nikkun> fritsch: do you know of any good explinations of the C Flags?  since i remember messing with something like them in Gentoo when i tryied it
[01:04] <cilkay> Besides, Flash is not really well-supported on 32 bit Linux either. You can't play FLV files in Linux that have been encoded with AN32 (?), which have a dependency on Flash 9.
[01:04] <fritsch> nikkun: but in gentoo you  optimize the C Flags
[01:04] <archangel_> but its flawless with the 32 bit.
[01:04] <fritsch> nikkun: and there comes your speed
[01:04] <fritsch> archangel_: you could setup a 32 bit chroot
[01:04] <Hawkwind> archangel_: That's because flash isn't made for 64Bit
[01:04] <looktj> kkuubuntuuuu is reppppeating the kkeys i type
[01:04] <nikkun> fritsch: yah but mostly ti was just what cpu your computer had
[01:04] <Hawkwind> Flashplayer 9 will be available for Linux after the first of the year as well
[01:04] <archangel_> right
[01:04] <looktj> !keys
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <fritsch> nikkun: yes, you optimize for your cpu
[01:05] <Hawkwind> cilkay: Flash happens to be very well supported on 32Bit systems.  Has been for years
[01:05] <nikkun> fritsch: but doesnt installing the optimized kernel do that?
[01:05] <looktj> archangel: hellppp please
[01:05] <archangel_> right, but not the 64 bit
[01:05] <Hawkwind> cilkay: It's just since flashplayer 8 and higher came out is that there isn't support.  But flash 9 will be out right after the first of the year
[01:05] <looktj> !repeating keys
[01:05] <fritsch> nikkun: this kernel does not recompile your user apps
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeating keys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <archangel_> are you on a wireless keyboard?
[01:06] <fritsch> nikkun: sorry, and don`t have an online link to the devel list
[01:06] <archangel_> lookj
[01:06] <fritsch> nikkun: perhaps you could ask in #kubuntu-devel
[01:06] <looktj> im on a uuusb kkkeybooard
[01:06] <nikkun> fritsch: ok thanks
[01:06] <looktj> and its not wirellless
[01:06] <fritsch> nikkun: if they know about big performance boost, with just recompiling, without changing sth.
[01:06] <archangel_> :o)
[01:06] <cilkay> Hawkwind: I spent hours "troubleshooting" why I couldn't play some FLV files I got from a videographer for a site I'm building only to find that the only thing "wrong" about them was that there was no player in Linux that could play them.
[01:06] <fritsch> nikkun: but i don`t think so
[01:07] <looktj> do i reboot??
[01:07] <cilkay> Hawkwind: unlikely anyone but I'm going to be hitting that site with Linux so it doesn't matter that much but it was annoying.
[01:07] <archangel_> I doubt it, check out the speed of your keys
[01:07] <archangel_> you knw how?
[01:07] <fritsch> me is quiet happy today ;-) installed an Asus A6V 6000 laptop and every peace of hardware is working
[01:07] <looktj> no
[01:07] <looktj> im on kde
[01:08] <fritsch> every piece *g*
[01:08] <archangel_> kde?
[01:08] <archangel_> cool
[01:08] <looktj> yea
[01:08] <archangel_> go to system  settings
[01:08] <archangel_> in the K menu
[01:08] <archangel_> dapper drake?
[01:09] <cozomo> drake dappar
[01:09] <looktj> noooow what do ii clllickk on
[01:09] <archangel_> keyboard
[01:10] <archangel_> middle left
[01:10] <archangel_> if your unsure of what setting is best, I can give you mine and you can judge from there
[01:11] <waspius> i want to play live radio from the internet...but when i click on the file which supports windows media player i get the error firefox does not know how to open this address because protocol (mms) is not associated with any program
[01:11] <archangel_> 660 msec (delay)           25.0/s (rate)
[01:11] <looktj> thats what mine iis
[01:12] <archangel_> then slow down your rate
[01:12] <looktj> ill do a reboot
[01:13] <looktj> i thhink some1  had this problem
[01:13] <archangel_> k
[01:14] <looktj> looking for shutdown button
[01:15] <archangel_> k menu
[01:15] <archangel_> then logout
[01:15] <looktj> thannnks for alll your help
[01:15] <archangel_> sure
[01:15] <archangel_> good luck
[01:16] <archangel_> waspius: I would suggest easyubuntu
[01:17] <waspius> ok
[01:17] <archangel_> #easyubuntu
[01:21] <archangel_> cilkay:  can you help me with my cable modem?
[01:22] <looktj> i put rate to 20.0/s
[01:22] <archangel_> or at least my connection?
[01:22] <archangel_> god deal you look better
[01:22] <archangel_> good
[01:22] <looktj> i like kde....startup programs while doesnt
[01:22] <looktj> gnome doesnt*
[01:23] <archangel_> right I like kde alot better
[01:25] <yonkeltron> if i have a packaging bug for a package but launchpad informs me to file it elsewhere, what do i do?
[01:25] <StrudelNinja____> ok stupid question I bet but this is my first program I want to install outside of a repo, and it came in a .run
[01:25] <StrudelNinja____> how do I install it?
[01:25] <yonkeltron> StrudelNinja____: make it exacutable and then run it from the command line.
[01:25] <yonkeltron> StrudelNinja____: i.e. chmod +x package.run; ./package.run
[01:25] <yonkeltron> StrudelNinja____: if you trust it.
[01:26] <yonkeltron> StrudelNinja____: if you don't, then don't install it.
[01:26] <yonkeltron> StrudelNinja____: also, you may need to use sudo
[01:26] <StrudelNinja____> k let me try
[01:26] <looktj> archangel_:how do i change my clock to 3:26 instead of 16:26?
[01:27] <archangel_> right click on the clock
[01:27] <looktj> k
[01:27] <archangel_> then date and time format
[01:27] <archangel_> then time and dates
[01:28] <archangel_> then under time format tab ........ select ph:mm:ss ampm
[01:29] <looktj> thanks
[01:29] <archangel_> sure
[01:30] <Web-kanotix747> Good day - anyone up for an upgrade question?
[01:30] <yonkeltron> sure
[01:31] <Web-kanotix747> I'd like to give 6.06 a try. I'm running Kanotix - debian/ked based. How much of muy existing 'home' directory is re-usable?
[01:31] <StrudelNinja____> alright I got the installer going but it says that it has no write permission to the directory it's trying to install to
[01:31] <Web-kanotix747> *KDE
[01:32] <yonkeltron> Web-kanotix747: interesting question.
[01:32] <yonkeltron> Web-kanotix747: i would tell you to save your docs and data. other than that, for the full 6.06 experience, give the default setup a try.
[01:33] <sorush20> hi guys is the apply setting missing from Date & Time Settings in Kubuntu ?
[01:33] <Web-kanotix747> A specific issue is Thunderbird. Will I be able to just point to it?
[01:33] <yonkeltron> Web-kanotix747: what issue?
[01:34] <sorush20> I keep setting the time settings in my kubuntu to uk british time using the auto server update.. but every reboot I loose it
[01:34] <Web-kanotix747> Would I be able to mingle 'home' directories as long as the names are unique - meaning having a single home for a dual boot?
 as long as you set permisions and umask accordingly
[01:35] <StrudelNinja____> Do I need to install as root if I'm trying to say, install a game in my /usr/game/ folder
[01:36] <Web-kanotix747> Sorry, the 'what issue' slipped by. Could I essentially use a single thunderbird directory under both distros on a dual boot.
[01:36] <excitatory> StrudelNinja____: yea, most likely since your user hopefully doesn't have write access to /usr
[01:36] <StrudelNinja____> k.
[01:36] <StrudelNinja____> how do I do that
[01:36] <excitatory> sudo
[01:36] <StrudelNinja____> and what if that didn't work
[01:36] <Web-kanotix747> thanks, drbreen. I guess I could (and probably will) just back everything up and try it. Just wondered if anyone else had.
[01:37] <excitatory> StrudelNinja____: then come talk to us.. btw.. what are you trying to install?
[01:37] <StrudelNinja____> Enemy Territory
[01:37] <excitatory> i don't know what that is..
[01:37] <excitatory> is it a linux game..or?
[01:38] <StrudelNinja____> Wolfenstein
[01:38] <StrudelNinja____> yeah
 just say why you could want that ?
[01:38] <excitatory> well..i'm sure it has install instructions, no?
[01:38] <StrudelNinja____> nope
[01:38] <StrudelNinja____> I'm running the installer but the directory it wants to install in won't work
[01:39] <excitatory> StrudelNinja____: where did you obtain this?
[01:39] <StrudelNinja____> splashdamage.com, the developer website
[01:39] <looktj> should i order KDE cds?
[01:40] <looktj> or keep gnome cds?
[01:40] <Web-kanotix747> drbreen - well - keeping a known distro alive until I'm sure I want to switch will make life easier if there are any issues.
 there will be issues if program versions differ. for sure.
[01:41] <excitatory> StrudelNinja____: run the installer, but insert the sudo command before the installer.  should work.
 btw what distro did you use before ?
[01:41] <excitatory> looktj: do you need cds?  you know you can download and burn the isos..  the cds are really only necessary if you want fancy packaging.
[01:41] <cilkay> archangel_: what about your cable modem?
[01:42] <D4rkly> does anyone know how i can add UDF support as some of my dvd's cant be read ?
[01:42] <looktj> i dont have any burning cds
[01:44] <Web-kanotix747> drbreen - I've used Centos as a server and knoppix as a desktop.I'm using kanotix as a desktop and server right now.
[01:44] <excitatory> looktj: well..what are you attempting to do.. i thought you had ubuntu and wanted to install kubuntu, no?
[01:44] <StrudelNinja____> I'm still getting the no write permission
 i'd explicitly say: DONT DO THIS. you will srew up your system bad (probably).
[01:45] <excitatory> StrudelNinja____: you're doing, sudo et-linux-2.60.x86.run ?
[01:45] <StrudelNinja____> yeah
[01:45] <Web-kanotix747> drbreen - Don't dual boot linux distros or try to share application data?
[01:46] <excitatory> hrm..well is there an option to install it to your home directory?
[01:46] <looktj> Excitatory: i am gonna order kde cds...since in case of reformat
[01:47] <StrudelNinja____> hhm so I closed the konsole and reopened it about 4 times and suddenly it worked
[01:48] <StrudelNinja____> o.O
[01:48] <excitatory> looktj: um.. alright..but dude, save yourself some trouble and buy some cdrs and burn the iso.
[01:48] <waspius> is there a way i can right click on a tar file and extract is straight away without needing to open ark all the time?and not from console
 dont try to share app data if the programs arent the same version
[01:48] <looktj> excitatory: i dont have any cd to burn to
[01:49] <excitatory> waspius: yea.. right click, Extract -- then choose where.
[01:49] <waspius> excitatory: i dont have thatr option
[01:49] <excitatory> looktj: and i'm telling you.. it would be faster to go to the store, buy some cdrs and then burn it than wait and pay for shipping.
[01:49] <excitatory> waspius: from konqueror?
[01:50] <excitatory> waspius: are you right clicking on the archive file?
[01:50] <looktj> k
[01:50] <waspius> excitatory: yes
[01:50] <excitatory> looktj: but i mean..go ahead, buy it if you feel you need to.
[01:51] <excitatory> waspius: um.. i'm not sure why..this has been a standard feature for a long time.. i'm assuming you're using kubuntu and dapper, correct?
[01:52] <Web-kanotix747> - drbreen:  yes crossing the streams is usually bad. I'm just going to set up a separate partition for 6.06 and play with it independently and move apps if I decide to stay.
[01:52] <waspius> excitatory: yes
[01:52] <Web-kanotix747> - drbreen:  Thanks for the discussion.  -bye.
[01:52] <waspius> excitatory: it says that i need to install konqueror intergration plugin
[01:52] <waspius> i think i know what to do
 nice to help
 have a nice day
[01:53] <waspius> excitatory: install kdeaddons
[01:53] <Web-kanotix747> drbreen: thanks, you too.
[01:54] <excitatory> waspius: yea.. i was going to say, it works for me: http://subfluous.net/images/extract.jpg
[01:55] <looktj> im dling the iso
[01:55] <haroldh> Can anyone help me with a mic problem
[01:56] <waspius> haroldh: u should just say your problem
[01:56] <haroldh> sorry, not use to chat rooms.
[01:57] <haroldh> for some reason, my mic won't work on my computer with kubuntu.
[01:57] <excitatory> haroldh: no worries..it's just repetitive and superfluous..and now you know :D
[01:57] <cilkay> Man the installer CD installs a lot of unnecessary stuff! Why in the world would I need Tamil fonts, e.g.?
[01:57] <haroldh> I'm not sure if I need to install anything for it to work..
[01:57] <cilkay> Now Thai fonts.
[01:58] <cilkay> I should probably have done a server installation and then installed kdebase.
[01:58] <excitatory> cilkay: it's not that much extra stuff..you can always remove it.. and there's always the minimal server install if you so choose..but believe me, it's far easier to have kubuntu setup your system, then remove stuff you don't need.
[01:59] <excitatory> haroldh: what/where are you trying to use your mic?
[01:59] <cilkay> I noticed that EVMS and LVM daemons were running and I don't use either one on the laptop I had installed on.
[01:59] <haroldh> I have it plugged into my laptop and I tried audacity and the mic isn't working with it..
[02:00] <haroldh> It was working on my desktop computer before I decided to use it on my laptop.
[02:00] <cilkay> haroldh: try your mic with some other app.
[02:00] <haroldh> Like Gizmo or something..
[02:01] <excitatory> haroldh: is it enabled in kmix?
[02:01] <haroldh> I do have it enabled in kmix..
[02:03] <excitatory> haroldh: and in the switches tab in kmix.. have you played with the settings there?
[02:03] <haroldh> I have not done anything in the switches area though..
[02:04] <ColonelKernel> Abattoir! You're still around!
[02:05] <shiv> Guys, I want synaptic to not tell me about CUPS update. How do I do that?
[02:05] <ColonelKernel> Smack it and tell it NO
[02:06] <ColonelKernel> $help
[02:06] <shiv> but it keeps popping up
[02:06] <ColonelKernel> did you smack it hard enough?
[02:06] <ColonelKernel> :D
[02:06] <shiv> but it keeps popping upI did
[02:06] <ColonelKernel> lol
[02:06] <shiv> lol
[02:06] <ColonelKernel> I really don't know man, sorry
[02:06] <shiv> I did
[02:07] <haroldh> Well, I checked out the switches tab and made changes that was needed, but still no go..
[02:07] <pierreth> is it possible to make my desktop appears when i move the mouse in the bottom left corner?
[02:07] <otaku-san> heheh I highly doubt smacking will do it....hammers tho' thats different
[02:07] <ColonelKernel> :D
[02:07] <ColonelKernel> Use a large blunt object and beat it until it stops popping up
[02:08] <otaku-san> ....heheh always works for me...my poor poor box
[02:08] <ColonelKernel> Mine also
[02:08] <ColonelKernel> except the sound card :/
[02:08] <otaku-san> pierreth: like virtual desktops?
[02:09] <pierreth> otaku-san: i don't know, like atl-ctrl-d
[02:09] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, sounds so familiar....jeez how do I change Xchat from putting that dumb comma into a colon???
[02:09] <ColonelKernel> lol
[02:10] <ColonelKernel> I had the issue to, I just did it myself :D
[02:10] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: Good choice on the irc client tho
[02:10] <unix_infidel> does gvim not ship with color themes?
[02:10] <otaku-san> pierreth, hmmmm let me try that
[02:10] <unix_infidel> erm, rather vim-gnome
[02:10] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, Yes I like it...better en' Konversation...shorter name to...yeah I quess I'll just have to do it manually *dreads not being lazy*
[02:11] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: rofl... I'm sure there's a way to do it, just not familiar enough with the client.
[02:11] <ColonelKernel> anyone know if it's possible to configure a USB soundcard in Linux?  LTB...
[02:13] <otaku-san> pierreth, when I tried ctrl-alt-d all of my open windows were minimized...sorry I'm so unhelpful....hmmm can't go to ##linux cause this is a KDE thing
[02:13] <pierreth> otaku-san: this is what i want
[02:13] <ColonelKernel> pierreth: same result here
[02:13] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, I think I'll just live with it....the laziness is just to much for me
[02:14] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: roger that.
[02:14] <otaku-san> pierreth, so I did a good thing?  Wow,don't I feel special! ;)
[02:14] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: Hlo?
[02:14] <bouncing> I'm trying to figure out why kubuntu/x.org completely ignores my xorg.conf and decides on its own resolution. I have it configured for 1440x900 at specific horz/vert refresh rates, and the x server uses 1024x768, which is not in my config file at all.
[02:14] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: Lawlz
[02:15] <looktj> i hate the words lawlz
[02:15] <bouncing> It's really like, "oh, yeah, that's a cute x.org file. Thanks. I'll do this."
[02:15] <ColonelKernel> I do too. don't know why I used it. I apologize
[02:15] <looktj> :-P
[02:15] <ColonelKernel> :D
[02:15] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, lawlz?  Seems to be something bad...
[02:16] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: just a phonetic pronunciation of lolz
[02:16] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: Annoying IM slang
[02:16] <pierreth> what should i do?
[02:16] <pierreth> is it possible?
[02:16] <otaku-san> .....should of seen it...and I call myself l33+ inclined
[02:17] <otaku-san> pierreth, do what?  I thought you said ctrl-alt-d does what you want.....I'm confused
[02:18] <ColonelKernel> do I use the exec or sh command to execute a .run file?
[02:18] <ColonelKernel> pierreth: what is your desired outcome from CTRL+ALT+D
[02:18] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, sh if I'm not mistaken
[02:18] <ColonelKernel> thats what I thought :/
[02:18] <pierreth> otaku-san: it does what i want but i want to do the same by moving my mouse in the bottom left corner
[02:18] <ColonelKernel> dir
[02:18] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, it should be an .sh file tho'
[02:18] <ColonelKernel> well :/
[02:18] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: it is a .run file
[02:19] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: it's an ATI driver install
[02:19] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, ....thats for MSuck there is no .run in Linux....I thought...
[02:19] <otaku-san> !.run
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about run - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <ColonelKernel> !run
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about run - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <ColonelKernel> !sh
[02:20] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:20] <ColonelKernel> :/
[02:20] <ColonelKernel> !google .run
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google .run - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <otaku-san> pierreth, ok so you want windows to minimize when you move down to the bottom left corner?
[02:21] <ColonelKernel> pierreth: like hot corners in Window$?
[02:21] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, ubotu has failed us!!!
[02:21] <pierreth> ColonelKernel: no, like on the Mac with Expos
[02:21] <pierreth> Kompos is not so bad, almost like on the Mac :-)
[02:22] <otaku-san> I've touched only one M@c in my life.....sad...so sad
[02:22] <looktj> brb
[02:22] <ColonelKernel> nothing in the list of linux .extensions I found :/
[02:22] <ColonelKernel> puzzling
[02:23] <otaku-san> pierreth, but you still want stuff to minimize if you hit a certain corner?
[02:23] <pierreth> otaku-san: yes, this what i am asking
[02:24] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, .run is a Windoze thing...not Linux....so..I do not know
[02:24] <ColonelKernel> you mean I need wine to run it?
[02:24] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: I never heard of a .run file in windows :/
[02:24] <pierreth> i have the same on the Mac so I want it on kde too
[02:25] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: evidently the .run file is a binary :/
[02:25] <otaku-san> pierreth, ok now we're getting somewhere....ok let me tinker on KDE and see if I can find what your looking for...I think I saw something
[02:25] <ColonelKernel> !.sh
[02:25] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:25] <ColonelKernel> !dc
[02:25] <ubotu> dc: The GNU dc arbitrary precision reverse-polish calculator. In component main, is optional. Version 1.06-19ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 56 kB, installed size 200 kB
[02:26] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, hmmm. I could swear by it being a windoze thing....or maybe I'm thinking .exe!!!!
[02:26] <ColonelKernel> ya .exe = windowz
[02:26] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: so....... I have no clue what to do. I opened it with  Kate and bam everything, just need to execute it soemhow
[02:27] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, Ohhhhh I hate when that happens....
[02:27] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: yeah. I'll google around...
[02:28] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, Google is Linux users best friend
[02:29] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: indeed. I found something, what is XFree86 and x.org 6.8? one is a .rpm file :/
[02:29] <ColonelKernel> !xfree86
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfree86 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <ColonelKernel> !xfree
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <ColonelKernel> !.rpm
[02:29] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[02:30] <ColonelKernel> Damn
[02:31] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, No kidding....
[02:32] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: Know any good 3rd party ATI Drivers?
[02:33] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, Sadly no my friend....there probably is something....Google?  Or try ##linux  they might know
[02:33] <ColonelKernel> Roger. i'm stayin here so Google it is
[02:34] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, Roger Wilco...I read you.  I am a dunce at CB so forgive me
[02:34] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: Lol, np :D.
[02:37] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, excuse me but whats up with joining ##linux??? ;)
[02:38] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: Hacker :D
[02:38] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: well for one thing, check this link:
[02:38] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ATI_Drivers
[02:39] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: looks impossible to me
[02:39] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, ok...checking
[02:39] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: Roger.
[02:42] <SupremeBeing> otaku-san: I'm Colonel Kernel :D
[02:45] <otaku-san> SupremeBeing, I see
[02:45] <SupremeBeing> otaku-san: rather complex.
[02:45] <otaku-san> SupremeBeing, your SlicerDicer???
[02:45] <SupremeBeing> otaku-san: what?
[02:46] <SupremeBeing> otaku-san: I'm ColonelKernel
[02:46] <SupremeBeing> Aha!
[02:46] <SupremeBeing> otaku-san: I renamed the .run to a .sh and BOOM!
[02:47] <otaku-san> SupremeBeing, Coolness!!! how man?  did you run the file in root on a text editor and change the extension name?
[02:47] <SupremeBeing> otaku-san: Root in Konsole, extension name change, and yeah it's installed. Nice graphical installer too
[02:47] <SupremeBeing> otaku-san: Swish :D
[02:48] <cozomo> :D desu
[02:48] <otaku-san> SupremeBeing, No you 0wnz0r you b0x
[02:48] <SupremeBeing> otaku-san: Looool.
[02:48] <SupremeBeing> otaku-san: Just hope that 3d accel is on.  heard that it often is not by default :/
[02:49] <SupremeBeing> otaku-san: *crosses fingers*
[02:50] <otaku-san> SupremeBeing, hope so....can't you get into the config and change it?
[02:50] <Suiseiseki> iie desu
[02:50] <otaku-san> Suiseiseki, desu?  I thought kdesu...
[02:50] <Suiseiseki> k desu no desu
[02:51] <SupremeBeing> desu what the huh?
[02:52] <otaku-san> Jucato: thinks your right
[02:52] <otaku-san> ....desu OHHHHHHH!!!
[02:53] <Jucato> eheheh! an otaku who doesn't know "desu"? :-D
[02:53] <Suiseiseki> watashi wa nihon jin desu
[02:53] <Suiseiseki> desu desu desu desu desu desu
[02:53] <otaku-san> I see nihon...that mean Japan
[02:53] <Jucato> hai
[02:53] <Jucato> boku wa firipin jin desu
[02:54] <Suiseiseki> ano..... desu
[02:54] <Jucato> ^_^
[02:54] <Jucato> ok getting off topic here
[02:54] <Suiseiseki> ^_^
[02:54] <otaku-san> Jucato: I thought you spoke Japanese...
[02:54] <Jucato> otaku-san: nope. I don't ehehehe!
[02:55] <Suiseiseki> kekekekeke
[02:55] <Jucato> I just understand a few words... and say a few sentences
[02:55] <Jucato> I can imagine some Japanese Kubuntu users might have a bit of a problem saying/understanding 'kdesu'
[02:56] <SupremeBeing> what is kdesu?
[02:57] <Jucato> !kdesu
[02:57] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[02:57] <nick_> how do i get the greyed out boxes to show up in adept?
[02:57] <otaku-san> thanks...um have to go for a bit...don't leave me guys I haven't had this much fun in ages :)
[02:57] <kRush> hi, how do I set proper resolution for kdm? It's 1280x1024 but I can scroll around the screen by moving the mouse pointer to the edges, which is ... annoying
[02:57] <SupremeBeing> v55
[02:57] <Jucato> you're the one that's leaving...
[02:58] <SupremeBeing> kRush: That's odd
[02:58] <Suiseiseki> kRush, maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg would help
[02:59] <Suiseiseki> err maybe not
[02:59] <Jucato> kRush: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf try looking for a line with "Virtual
[02:59] <Jucato> "Virtual" then set it to the right resolution
[02:59] <Suiseiseki> gomen gomen
[02:59] <SupremeBeing> "Virtual? like "Virtual Desktop"?
[02:59] <Jucato> Suiseiseki: it might also work
[02:59] <SupremeBeing> oops :D
[02:59] <kRush> will try
[02:59] <Jucato> SupremeBeing: no, just "Virtual"
[02:59] <SupremeBeing> Jucato: Gotcha :D
[03:00] <Jucato> mine is "Virtual 1024 768"
[03:00] <looktj> whenever i remove dansguardian my browser doesnt work
[03:00] <SupremeBeing> Jucato: Mine=I got no clue rofl..
[03:00] <Jucato> lol
[03:00] <Jucato> CraZy675: Adept? or do you mean the Add/Remove Programs?
[03:01] <otaku-san> hehe I'm back... so what did I miss?
[03:01] <CraZy675> add/remove programs
[03:01] <CraZy675> it says adept installer
[03:01] <Jucato> hm... a healthy serving of sushi, tonkatsu, and miso soup
[03:01] <SupremeBeing> Add/Remove programs = Windows
[03:01] <Jucato> CraZy675: yep, that's correct. Adept Installer is Add/Remove Programs
[03:01] <SupremeBeing> ya
[03:01] <Jucato> plain "Adept" is the more powerful version
[03:02] <CraZy675> yea thats not my question my question is how do I un grey out things?
[03:02] <CraZy675> use adept?
[03:02] <Jucato> CraZy675: incidentally, you're going to have to use the Adept to be able to solve that... @_@
[03:02] <Jucato> (I think..)
[03:02] <Jucato> CraZy675: is this a fresh install of Kubuntu?
[03:02] <CraZy675> ok
[03:02] <CraZy675> yes
[03:03] <Jucato> ok. so basically, none of your repositories are enabled, that's why you're having grayed out stuff
[03:03] <SupremeBeing> I remember fixing that
[03:03] <SupremeBeing> Good times :D
[03:03] <Jucato> lol
[03:03] <CraZy675> oh ok
[03:03] <Jucato> CraZy675: open up Adept (just the plain "Adept")
[03:03] <CraZy675> Jucato: done
[03:04] <Jucato> go to the Adept menu and select Manage Repositories
[03:04] <Jucato> kRush: did it work?
[03:04] <kRush> worked =)
[03:04] <Jucato> kool
[03:04] <kRush> thank you
[03:04] <Jucato> no problem
[03:04] <CraZy675> nothing is commented out in manage repos
[03:04] <CraZy675> i went into etc/apt to enable them
[03:04] <CraZy675> using vi
[03:04] <CraZy675> cause i love vi
[03:05] <Jucato> CraZy675: ehehee. haven't used vi
[03:05] <Jucato> so non of the "deb" lines are gray?
[03:05] <CraZy675> double checking
[03:05] <CraZy675> none of the deb or deb-src are grey
[03:06] <Jucato> ok. after you enabled the repositories in vi, did you do a "sudo apt-get update"?
[03:06] <otaku-san> Random offtopic...but anyone on here a SomaFM listener?
[03:07] <SupremeBeing> ^ is that the cmd to update kernel?
[03:07] <Jucato> [off-topic rant]  I find Adept Installer one of the most inadept among the Adept brothers... [/end rant] 
[03:07] <Jucato> SupremeBeing: nope. just to update your apt cache
[03:07] <CraZy675> Jucato: ok all works now I just had to restart adept i guess
[03:07] <SupremeBeing> Jucato: what is the kernel update cmd then?
[03:07] <Jucato> SupremeBeing: update to a newer version?
[03:08] <SupremeBeing> Jucato: yeah
[03:08] <Jucato> you can only upgrade the kernel if there's a new version available in the repositories
[03:08] <Jucato> and it will be just like installing/upgrading any other package
[03:09] <CraZy675> thanks
[03:09] <CraZy675> i'm out
[03:09] <SupremeBeing> I thougt there was a cmd for it tho... I did it last time I had kubuntu installed
[03:10] <SupremeBeing> brb
[03:10] <Suiseiseki> would anyone know how to make ytmnd pages' sound work on kubuntu?
[03:10] <Suiseiseki> firefox says I need to install an unknown plugin
[03:10] <Jucato> ytmnd?
[03:10] <Suiseiseki> ytmnd.com
[03:10] <Suiseiseki> go there
[03:10] <miktar> you're the man now dogg
[03:10] <miktar> for those who don't speak abbreviation
[03:11] <Jucato> aah
[03:11] <Jucato> Suiseiseki: does that site need flash?
[03:11] <Suiseiseki> miktar u r nub stfu prawnsor sause
[03:11] <miktar> huh?
[03:11] <Suiseiseki> jucato: I have flashplayer.. supposedly
[03:12] <otaku-san> does anyone know why Flash sound won't work??
[03:12] <Jucato> otaku-san: mine does... but I'm on a 32-bit system so that's probably one reason why...
[03:12] <Jucato> Suiseiseki: from where did  you install flash?
[03:12] <otaku-san> Jucato: I have 32 bit also
[03:13] <NamShub> how can I synchronise 2 directory going 2-ways?
[03:13] <NamShub> ie. if I modify any one of those 2 directories, the other one sync automatically
[03:13] <Suiseiseki> jucato: I forgot, I think I got it from a drug dealer
[03:13] <miktar> >.<
[03:13] <Suiseiseki> jucato: where should I get it
[03:13] <Jucato>  @_@
[03:13] <Jucato> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[03:13] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[03:13] <Jucato> there
[03:14] <Suiseiseki> E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[03:15] <otaku-san> DaSkreech, has gotten on!
[03:15] <Jucato> Suiseiseki: you probably don't have "multiverse" enabled
[03:15] <DaSkreech> No I haven't?
[03:15] <DaSkreech> I have a ticket honest!
[03:15] <Suiseiseki> jucato: how do I enable it desu
[03:15] <Jucato> DaSkreech got on what?
[03:15] <Jucato>  @_@
[03:15] <DaSkreech> This isn't the train to Abudabuai?
[03:16] <Jucato> Suiseiseki: here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:16] <Jucato> read the part about "Adding Repositories"
[03:17] <otaku-san> DaSkreech, It is????  Whoopss :)
[03:17] <DaSkreech> otaku-san: Whats up?
[03:17] <Jucato> hmm.. the sky? the ceiling?
[03:17] <os2mac> what is the whole url for dapper-updates? to go into sources.list
[03:17] <DaSkreech> No Actually he sky has fallen
[03:18] <otaku-san> DaSkreech, Nothing much!  ....jeez I get that to much. -_-
[03:18] <Jucato> os2mac: "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse" ??
[03:18] <os2mac> and how does one check that he is on the .1 release?
[03:18] <Jucato> os2mac: the lines should be there already in your sources.list
[03:18] <Jucato> os2mac: type 'lsb_release -a' in Konsole
[03:18] <os2mac> yeah I just saw them
[03:19] <otaku-san> oppss got to get lost for a sec
[03:20] <miktar> what the hell?
[03:20] <miktar> I can see my screen refreshing
[03:20] <Jucato> DaSkreech: ou're not Chicken Little are you? :-D
[03:20] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Course not I'm justa little chicken is all
[03:20] <Jucato> lol
[03:21] <Suiseiseki> yay thanks jucato desu
[03:21] <Jucato> Suiseiseki: no problem. got ytmnd's sound working?
[03:21] <miktar> could you give me a hand now?
[03:22] <Suiseiseki> Jucato not sure yet I will see
[03:22] <Jucato> ehehe ok good luck!
[03:22] <Jucato> miktar: no idea about monitors and displays...
[03:22] <miktar> :/
[03:22] <Suiseiseki> jucato: didnt work
[03:22] <Jucato> aww shucks
[03:23] <Jucato> (well, at least you have flash player now...)
[03:23] <pierreth> how can i put a view button on a toolbar in konqueror?
[03:23] <Jucato> Suiseiseki: could you give me an exact ytmnd.com link that tries to play souns?
[03:23] <Suiseiseki> yes
[03:23] <Jucato> pierreth: what "view"?
[03:23] <Jucato> suonds*
[03:23] <Jucato> sounds*
[03:23] <Jucato> grr.. typos
[03:24] <Suiseiseki> http://desudesudesudesu.ytmnd.com
[03:24] <Jucato> Suiseiseki: is that yours? ehehe
[03:24] <pierreth> Jucato: files
[03:24] <Suiseiseki> Jucato: DESU DESU DESU
[03:25] <Jucato> well, that's still a bit vague. anyway, you can try Settings > Configure Toolbars
[03:25] <Agios> well it works here
[03:25] <Agios> I'm sorry to say
[03:25] <pierreth> Jucato: I did, I saw no button to select a view
[03:25] <Jucato> pierreth: you might also wan't to enable some other toolbars like Extra or Main
[03:25] <Agios> some things are better off broken
[03:26] <Jucato> hmm... mine doesn't play
[03:26] <Jucato> Agios: would you happen to know what plugin it's looking for?
[03:26] <pierreth> Jucato: I am displaying all of them
[03:27] <pierreth> Jucato: look http://www.kde-apps.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=37321&file1=37321-1.jpg&file2=37321-2.jpg&file3=37321-3.jpg&name=PDF-smp+%28PDF+service+menu+pack%29
[03:27] <Jucato> pierreth: by "select a view" you mean selecting Icon View or Detailed View or Info View, etc?
[03:27] <Agios> Jucato: about the only plugin I have installed is the mplayerplugin
[03:27] <pierreth> Jucato: yes
[03:27] <Jucato> pierreth: I don't think we have that.
[03:28] <pierreth> Jucato: the last buttons shown by the url
[03:28] <Suiseiseki> Agios: gimmie desu
[03:28] <Jucato> pierreth: let me dig up a bit
[03:28] <Agios> could be flash though, let me load it again
[03:28] <Jucato> if it's mplayer...
[03:28] <Jucato> !info mozilla-mplayer
[03:28] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.17-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 421 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[03:29] <Jucato> I don't think it's flash. I have flash installed it the page doesn't have sounds either in Firefox or Konqueror
[03:29] <Agios> has to be mplayerplugin handling it
[03:29] <Jucato> i prefer to call it emplayah
[03:29] <Jucato> lol
[03:30] <Agios> only plugins I have installed are flash 7, mplayer, java, and video downloader
[03:31] <Jucato> I'm guessing it's mplayer...
[03:31] <Jucato> definitely not java :-D
[03:31] <Jucato> otherwise my system will suddenly start walking instead of running
[03:31] <Agios> not java and not flash and the downloader plugin is not applicable
[03:32] <Agios> but sometimes you have to mess with mixer settings too
[03:32] <Jucato> pierreth: I have failed to find similar icons. probably removed by Kubuntu? I'm not sure
[03:33] <Jucato> or maybe the icons are just different, seeing that he's using a different icon theme
[03:34] <pierreth> Jucato: too bad :-(
[03:34] <Suiseiseki> Agios the sounds still doesnt werkkor
[03:34] <Jucato> let me have a try
[03:34] <Jucato> installing mozilla-mplayer
[03:34] <Agios> Suiseiseki: play with your moxer settings while it is loaded
[03:34] <Jucato> and removing it later...
[03:35] <Suiseiseki> moxer?
[03:35] <Agios> mixer
[03:35] <Suiseiseki> Agios'
[03:36] <spud> hola
[03:36] <Suiseiseki> how do I restart my mixer?
[03:39] <Jucato> Suiseiseki: it's playing on mine
[03:39] <Jucato> try to restart firefox...
[03:39] <Suiseiseki> did
[03:39] <Jucato> maybe I'll keep mplayer for a while... ^_^
[03:39] <Suiseiseki> [AO OSS]  audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[03:39] <Jucato> hmm...
[03:39] <Suiseiseki> mplayer = teh pwn
[03:40] <Suiseiseki> xmms and vlc player play things for me though
[03:40] <Suiseiseki> mplayer doesnt..
[03:40] <Agios> alt-f2, kmix
[03:40] <Suiseiseki> Agios, what to do there
[03:40] <Jucato> err.. how do I make mozilla-mplayer work in Konqueror? or there's something else I have to get?
[03:41] <Agios> that starts the kmix mixer
[03:41] <Agios> Jucato: I've hard konq uses the mozilla plugins but I've never tried it.
[03:41] <Agios> heard
[03:41] <Jucato> T_T
[03:42] <Agios> I don't use konq for web browsing
[03:42] <DaSkreech> It works easily for me
[03:42] <spud> anyone tried edgy yet
[03:42] <Jucato> DaSkreech: mozilla-mplayer for Konqui?
[03:42] <Suiseiseki> uh
[03:42] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[03:42] <DaSkreech> It's great
[03:42] <Jucato> hm..
[03:43] <Suiseiseki> Agios: how do I restart my mixer?
[03:43] <Jucato> maybe I need to restart wittle Konqui
[03:43] <spud> edgy is great?
[03:43] <DaSkreech> Though I'm trying to figure out mms streams
[03:43] <DaSkreech> not sure why there are so many in the bookmarks
[03:43] <DaSkreech> spud: It lives up to it's name
[03:44] <dr_willis> 'Crashy Condor' :)
[03:44] <spud> crash frequently?
[03:44] <Jucato> DaSkreech: could you please check if the background music here plays in Konqueror: http://desudesudesudesu.ytmnd.com/
[03:44] <DaSkreech> Yeah. Causes spouts of blood etc. But I think only sid is newer
[03:45] <spud> sid?
[03:45] <Jucato> Debian Sid
[03:45] <DaSkreech> Debian
[03:45] <spud> oh
[03:45] <Jucato> Debian Sid = Debian Unstable
[03:45] <Jucato> Debian Etch = Debian Testing.
[03:45] <Jucato> But in December, Etch will be Stable
[03:45] <DaSkreech> spud: I'd advise a new partition if you would like to play with edgy. it can be your kubunut+1 partition
[03:47] <Jucato> lol! we're reading the same thing
[03:47] <DaSkreech> Ahh Bless Danny allen :)
[03:47] <Jucato> DaSkreech: did you check the link I gave? for some reason, the background sound doesn't play in Konqui, but plays in Firefox
[03:48] <Suiseiseki> waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah desu desu desu desu desu
[03:48] <Jucato> I installed mozilla-mplayer
[03:48] <spud> is the edgy cd a livecd or just an installer
[03:48] <DaSkreech> Knot might be a live CdI'm not sure
[03:48] <Jucato> spud: they have both.
[03:48] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Confirmed
[03:49] <spud> im downloading knot1
[03:49] <Jucato> DaSkreech: oh, doesn't play in Konqui?
[03:49] <DaSkreech> Right.
[03:49] <Jucato> spud: the Desktop CD is the Live CD+Installer
[03:49] <Jucato> DaSkreech: ooh. ok thanks for that
[03:49] <Jucato> thought Konqui was sick...
[03:49] <DaSkreech> Course I've foorgottne if I'v reinstalled mplayer for Konqui :-(
[03:49] <DaSkreech>  I think I have though
[03:50] <Jucato> ah never mind ehehe
[03:50] <DaSkreech>  Let me grab some Game trailers :)
[03:50] <Jucato> DaSkreech: nah, let's just continue reading the commits ehehe
[03:50] <spud> edgy-desktop-i386.iso=livecd+installer right?
[03:50] <Jucato> yep
[03:51] <DaSkreech> Anyone played with Krash?
[03:53] <spud> i see that the latest stable kernel is 2.6.17.9 so why is my kernel still 2.6.15
[03:54] <spud> r the newer kernels not kompatible with kubuntu 6.06?
[03:55] <DaSkreech> spud: Probably not tested yet
[03:55] <DaSkreech> it doesn't act like a firehose where as it hops out the compiler you get it dorect on your hard drive :)
[03:55] <Jucato> DaSkreech: only developers would be able to make sense out of Krash and hope that it will not krash
[03:56] <spud> i was just wondering why its not in my repositories
[03:56] <DaSkreech> Right. I know that. Still doesn't answer the question :)
[03:56] <Jucato> ehehe
[03:57] <Jucato> I was implying that probably no one who's talking right now would have tested it :-D
[03:57] <spud> fuck this im going back to windows
[03:57] <DaSkreech> Damn I really should start looking at xscreensavers
[03:57] <Jucato> ???
[03:58] <spud> just kidding i cant afford another xp cd!!! haha
[03:58] <Jucato> I've never had much use for screensavers... too bad, some of them are pretty nice. specially the OpenGL ones
[03:58] <DaSkreech> !language
[03:58] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:59] <spud> oops sry
[03:59] <spud> i forgot this aint aol
[04:00] <DaSkreech> spud: Yeah DoOd!!!!!!!!!and you dn't evr 4get it!!!!!!!!one hundred and elevnty one!!!
[04:00] <spud> hahaha
[04:00] <Jucato> hmm.. I think KPhotoAlbum seems to be adding a feature that really shouldn't be there...
[04:01] <spud> i want my powernowd to work
[04:01] <DaSkreech> the video?
[04:01] <spud> any help?
[04:01] <DaSkreech> !powernow
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powernow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:01] <Jucato> DaSkreech: yes...
[04:01] <Jucato> !powernowd
[04:01] <ubotu> powernowd: control cpu speed and voltage using 2.6 kernel interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 116 kB
[04:02] <DaSkreech> :-P
[04:02] <DaSkreech> I knew that
[04:02] <Jucato> ^_^
[04:02] <spud> powernow-k8: BIOS error - no PSB or ACPI _PSS objects
[04:02] <Jucato> why would a "Photo"Album have to play "Videos"?
[04:03] <DaSkreech> I've never used KPhotoalbum at all. So it might be obvious once I open it
[04:03] <spud> but i have it turned on in the bios
[04:04] <soulrider> hi everyone
[04:04] <Jucato> hi soulrider! and wb Agios
[04:04] <soulrider> hu Jucato
[04:05] <Agios> lol, thx
[04:05] <DaSkreech> Yo soulrider
[04:06] <DaSkreech> Hi nikkun
[04:06] <DaSkreech> Have I seen you before?
[04:06] <nikkun> i dont know
[04:06] <nikkun> ive only come in here a few times
[04:07] <phate> is there a way to get the default KDE icons back on the Desktop?
[04:07] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Any word yet from FTN ?
[04:07] <dr_willis> delete ya .kde* dirs and that will reset everything to default. :P
[04:08] <soulrider> nope
[04:08] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Ok.  I haven't gotten a reply either
[04:08] <soulrider> k
[04:08] <DaSkreech> nikkun: Well welcome :)
[04:08] <nikkun> DaSkreech: thanks
[04:10] <phate> dr_willis: well I like how Kubuntu is right now, just I'd perfer desktop icons (don't quite understand the hate against desktop icons and the *ubuntus
[04:10] <dr_willis> phate,  they are stupid. :P
[04:11] <dr_willis> lol
[04:11] <nikkun> what icons?
[04:11] <Jucato> lol
[04:11] <dr_willis> i get so IRKED at doing somthing on a windows desktop that has 100+ icons on it
[04:11] <Hawkwind> People still use desktop icons ??
[04:11] <Jucato> let's not impose "our" preferences on others....
[04:11] <dr_willis> first thing i do.. make new folder.. name it "Junk" and put them all in there. :)
[04:11] <Jucato> O_O  people still use the desktop metaphor?
[04:11] <dr_willis> Thats what launcher panels are for,
[04:11] <dr_willis> :)
[04:11] <nikkun> my desktop holds junk only lol
[04:11] <Jucato> whoa, Kiongku's here
[04:11] <dr_willis> pop out. launch, hide.
[04:11] <Kiongku> bleh.. in k3b the FiFo buffer and device buffer shows no info
[04:12] <Kiongku> Jucato: yo
[04:12] <Jucato> which version of K3b are you using? didn't bother checking mine... ^_^
[04:12] <apallo> does anyone have experience in getting evolution to connect to an exchange server?
[04:12] <Jucato> phate: anyway, getting back to your question, what desktop icons are you trying to put?
[04:13] <Kiongku> 0.12.14
[04:13] <Kiongku> Jucato: whats urs
[04:13] <Jucato> checking...
[04:13] <Jucato> ^_^
[04:13] <Jucato> same
[04:13] <Jucato> though I really didn't check about the FIFO buffer
[04:13] <Kiongku> lol
[04:13] <Kiongku> well i dunt care.. as long as it keep burning good :p
[04:13] <Jucato> yeah
[04:14] <apallo> anyone?
[04:14] <Jucato> hm... has anyone wondered why you put "wall"papers on "desk"tops?
[04:14] <LuisD> hola que requerimiento necesito para instalar kubuntu
[04:14] <Jucato> !es
[04:14] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:14] <Kiongku> lol?
[04:15] <Jucato> apallo: I'm not sure how many here use Evolution... presuming most use Kontact...
[04:15] <phate> Jucato: The default ones like Home, Trash, Network, Etc
[04:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> Jucato: Because someone with big screens that covered the whole wall said "Hey, that's like some new wallpaper!"
[04:15] <Jucato> lol
[04:15] <apallo> :|
[04:16] <Jucato> then how does a big screen fit on a desk? ehehe
[04:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> Jucato: It doesn't, that's why they called it wallpaper. It was hung on the wall. ;)
[04:16] <Jucato> bwahaha
[04:16] <Jucato> rofl
[04:16] <Jucato> err... getting off topic again... darn it's so hard to stay on topic...
[04:17] <soulrider> Jucato: indeed
[04:17] <phate> Jucato: thats the magic of IRC... Off topic-ness
[04:17] <Jucato> specially if there are only 25 people in #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:17] <nikkun> there is a chanel for that
[04:17] <DaSkreech> http://bash.org?top
[04:18] <Jucato> hm... I'll try advertising that channel... try to get more people
[04:18] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Have you seen the amarok offtopic chan?
[04:18] <DaSkreech>  they have a game machine in there :)
[04:18] <Jucato> nope :-D
[04:19] <Jucato> hmm... let me try this...
[04:19] <Jucato> [advertisement]  #kubuntu is for SUPPORT questions, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general Kubunut, Linux, and anything else
[04:19] <Jucato> it works, except for the typo
[04:19] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: You are in it
[04:20] <Jucato> trying the alias again
[04:20] <Jucato> [advertisement]  #kubuntu is for SUPPORT questions, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general Kubuntu, Linux, and anything else under the sky
[04:21] <DaSkreech> Jucato: So... no NASA talk allowed?
[04:21] <Jucato> err.. NASA?
[04:21] <DaSkreech> Its above the sky
[04:21] <DaSkreech>  Plus the sky HAS fallen so not much is above it now :-(
[04:21] <Jucato> lol
[04:22] <Jucato> well the NASA buildings are beneath the sky...
[04:22] <Jucato> but no inter-planetary diplomatic talks
[04:22] <Jucato> and no aliens!
[04:22] <Jucato> debs only...
[04:24] <soulrider> i really dont get that quote about some guy losing a machine
[04:24] <otaku-san> ,,,losing a machine?
 hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.
[04:25] <Jucato> what da?
[04:25] <soulrider> a quote from bash.org
[04:25] <soulrider> i dont get it why its funny........
[04:26] <nikkun> soulrider: more worriesome right?
[04:26] <otaku-san> ...hmmm so this guy has contact with this box but doesn't know where it is....and I thought I was lost
[04:26] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: hi!!
[04:26] <soulrider> i udnerstood it
[04:26] <soulrider> but didnt really find the "funny" part
[04:26] <NamShub> theres a limit to how many files "mv" can move??
[04:27] <NamShub> (in a single directory) (?)
[04:28] <nikkun> soulrider: the funny part is his appartment is soo messy he cant find the computer >.<
[04:28] <soulrider> thats retarded
[04:29] <otaku-san> soulrider: it's cool man... I guess it kinda is....tho' how could you lose a box.....I mean if I lost mine...I might as well need new glasses
[04:30] <Jucato> but... how could you lose "a box"... lol
[04:30] <soulrider> yea
[04:30] <soulrider> it would have to be buried under a huge ass pile of papers
[04:30] <soulrider> and
[04:31] <soulrider> i think i would remember in which room at least my computer is :P
[04:31] <Jucato> you've gotta have a room the size of a ship
[04:31] <otaku-san> soulrider, no kidding...
[04:31] <soulrider> and
[04:31] <soulrider> you would remember you have another computer
[04:31] <soulrider> before so mcuh time passes
[04:31] <soulrider> that you forget aobut it
[04:32] <Jucato> but I'd still be able to see it. specially if it's "a box"
[04:32] <phate> Jucato: so any ideas on my question?
[04:32] <Jucato> phate: for the Home icon, and  a "My Computer" icon
[04:32] <otaku-san> soulrider, the guy either doesn't use it...or just needs to get a life and get married...she might be able to whip him in shape
[04:33] <phate> Jucato: yes
[04:33] <Jucato> phate: right-click on the desktop, choose Create New > Link to URL
[04:34] <Jucato> then in the "Link to Location (URL):", type in home:/
[04:35] <Jucato> For a "My Computer" icon, you can repeat the process, this time using 'system:/' instead
[04:36] <Jucato> phate: you could probably also use 'trash:/
[04:36] <Jucato> trash:/
[04:36] <Jucato> I'm just not sure how well that works with drag and drop, and right-clicking to empty the trash
[04:37] <Jucato> phate: just an update, trash:/ works well with both
[04:40] <reddwolf> hello archangel
[04:40] <reddwolf> i got it working were i can boot off 1 hard drive
[04:40] <reddwolf> from linux or to windows xp
[04:43] <reddwolf> does any one have the link to easy ubuntu
[04:43] <Hawkwind> !easyubuntu
[04:43] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:44] <reddwolf> thanks
[04:46] <nkRush> bleh
[04:52] <reddwolf> i was in a few nights ago about getting my mp3s to work on my system
[04:52] <reddwolf> can some one help me out with getting that again
[04:52] <Hawkwind> !mp3s > reddwolf
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3s - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <Hawkwind> !mp3 > reddwolf
[04:53] <reddwolf> yep
[04:53] <reddwolf> i had it onece befor but for got witch thing in the manager to install
[04:54] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: this is your thing
[04:54] <reddwolf> i have to redo it all over again cus i had to redo my system so my xp and linux are on the same hard drive
[04:55] <Bearcat> hey folks, i have a kmail pgg question. At some point my nice kde dialog box for entering in my passphrase dissapered and i am now given this ugly X dialog. What the heck did i change 2 years ago to do that? :)
[04:58] <reddwolf> so can some one help me get my mp3's working i have one part i know i need and thats the easyunbutu
[05:03] <Hawkwind> reddwolf: Read what the bot sent you in pm
[05:03] <Agios> reddwolf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:03] <reddwolf> ok
[05:03] <Agios> hmmm, probably same info LOL
[05:06] <Bigfoot> ho Bearcat
[05:07] <Jucato> would anyone know how I could burn a WMV or a DivX AVI to VCD?
[05:07] <tk> GRRR I F'ing hate this country and its crappy ass internet
[05:08] <tk> sorry, wrong channel :/
[05:08] <Hawkwind> tk: Care to express to us your real feelings :P
[05:09] <DaSkreech> OK I think I broke Konqqueror
[05:09] <tk> Hawkwind: it wouldnt be appropriate for a R rated movie... so probably best that I dont :P
[05:09] <cilkay> What's the equivalent of chkconfig in K/Ubuntu?
[05:09] <DaSkreech> !language
[05:09] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:09] <Hawkwind> Heh
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Anyone ever got a cannot talk to klauncher error?
[05:10] <tk> was that you asking about it last night DaSkreech? because it was talked about yesterday in here...
[05:10] <kavit> i think we pay too much attention to "family" and "correct"
[05:10] <Hawkwind> cilkay: serviceconfig is a GUI version
[05:10] <DaSkreech> tk: nope
[05:10] <cilkay> is there a version on the shell?
[05:10] <Hawkwind> cilkay: There is a CLI version, but I forget what it's called
[05:10] <DaSkreech> kavit: Instead of watching?
[05:10] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I have gotten them before, yes
[05:11] <DaSkreech> What is it?
[05:11] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Good morning
[05:11] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: It means that klauncher is out of sync or something
[05:11] <Jucato> Gud morning (!?!) Hobbsee
[05:11] <Jucato> Good morning, Good afternoon, Good evening, as the case may be
[05:12] <Agios> cilkay: apt-get install sysv-rc-conf   it is very similar to the old chkconfig
[05:12] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I just run top for my user, then kill all (k) related apps and then it works.  Sometimes killing klauncher and kdeinit and restarting them works too
[05:12] <Hawkwind> Agios: That's the one!  Thanks for that
[05:12] <Hobbsee> hi Hawkwind
[05:12] <Hobbsee> hmmm.  another merge to fix
[05:12] <Jucato> would anyone know how I could burn a WMV or a DivX AVI to VCD?
[05:12] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Any diea what triggers it?
[05:13] <Hawkwind> Jucato: You can burn avi files directly to CD with k3b
[05:13] <Hobbsee> hi Jucato
[05:13] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Other than it being out of sync or something, nope
[05:13] <Jucato> Hawkwind: DivX AVI to VCD format?
[05:20] <unix_infidel> does Kubuntu ship with an auto-wireless association script or does it just associate with the closest on the list?
[05:21] <unix_infidel> it seems whenever i startup it automatically has associated and recieved an IP from whatever AP is closest at the time.
[05:21] <nixternal> hey...if i have more than 1gb of physical ram..do i still do 2x the amount for swap?  i thought i read somewhere that you don't want to
[05:21] <unix_infidel> nixternal: 2x is just a general rule.
[05:22] <nixternal> ouch..2gb of swap is nuts..ok ;)
[05:22] <nixternal> let me get back to installin' ;)
[05:22] <unix_infidel> i usually do .5-1x
[05:22] <unix_infidel> whenever i have 768+
[05:24] <DaSkreech> Night guys!
[05:25] <Jucato> DaSkreech: good night! (almost noon here)
[05:25] <Synaptics> hello anyone still awake?
[05:25] <tk> Jucato: where you located? its just past noon here :P
[05:26] <Jucato> tk: philippines. guessing you're farther east?
[05:26] <unix_infidel> anyone for my wireless association question?
[05:26] <tk> yah... the Koreas
[05:26] <Jucato> whoa
[05:26] <tk> not by choice mind you, just happened that way :P
[05:26] <Jucato> anyeong ha seo (forgot the spelling)
[05:26] <tk> hehe, never learned to spell it myself :P
[05:27] <Jucato> ehehe
[05:27] <tk> only know 5 works or so :P and know how to spell 2 of them for sure :P
[05:27] <tk> yogi and chogi :P
[05:27] <Jucato> kimchi!
[05:27] <tk> well I assume thats how they are spelled... I'm probably wrong :P
[05:29] <Synaptics> its 12.30 noon
[05:29] <Jucato> 11:30 am here
[05:31] <Synaptics> anyone knows whats the downside of automatix ?
[05:32] <tk> it doesnt work most of the time?
[05:33] <Jucato> it modifies your sources.list without you knowing what's being changed?
[05:33] <tk> and it installs the wrong.... stuff sometimes as well i believe....
[05:33] <Synaptics> ahhhh, so, its not that good then
[05:34] <Jucato> lol
[05:34] <Jucato> it's good
[05:34] <Jucato> coz it's easy
[05:34] <Synaptics> how do i install it in kubuntu?
[05:36] <Jucato> Synaptics: I seemed to have lost the link... hold on a sec
[05:36] <Jucato> let me see what ubotu knows...
[05:36] <Jucato> !automatix
[05:36] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[05:38] <actinic> automatix: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203294&highlight=kubuntu
[05:38] <Jucato> Synaptics: try this site: http://www.getautomatix.com/
[05:39] <Jucato> actinic: Automatix has requested that their section be closed in Ubuntuforums
[05:39] <lnxkde> my KDE 3.5.4 ask me to configure the eyecandy setting averytime I load into the system someone has a workaround that?
[05:40] <Jucato> Synaptics: a more direct link: http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation&Itemid=38
[05:40] <Synaptics> thanks
[05:42] <actinic> Jucato, the folks at Automatix haven't bothered removing it
[05:42] <Jucato> well, not removed. but closed...
[05:42] <Jucato> actinic: but it's no longer in the front page of Ubuntuforums
[05:42] <actinic> they need to remove it
[05:43] <Jucato> oh it's no longer there. I mean the links to the thread... but the thread are still in the database
[05:44] <actinic> why haven't they made mention of this in the thread?
[05:44] <actinic>  the thread at ubuntuforums that is
[05:45] <Jucato> hmm... let me get a thread where I heard it
[05:46] <Jucato> actinic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1393285#post1393285
[05:48] <Synaptics> hmmm i think i found a problem in kubuntu. when i start a new session or open up krita. my mouse doesnt work
[05:49] <actinic> got it, thanks, but it doesn't mean one can't view the info at the ubuntu forums
[05:49] <actinic> and if the info gets dated then it's the responsibility of the automatix devs to close those threads
[05:49] <Jucato> actinic: yes. I did say that the threads are still in the database
[05:49] <actinic> or a least put a warning saying
[05:50] <Jucato> actinic: but you won't be able to see them unless you do a Search
[05:50] <actinic> hey, the info might be outta date
[05:50] <soulrider> heya
[05:50] <actinic> right
[05:50] <Synaptics> hmmm i think i found a problem in kubuntu. when i start a new session or open up krita. my mouse doesnt work <--any ideas what happened?
[05:50] <angasule> !gimpshop
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gimpshop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <soulrider> !gimp
[05:51] <ubotu> An advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[05:51] <soulrider> ?
[05:51] <Jucato> no gimpshop in Kubuntu
[05:51] <actinic> anyone here got printing to work?
[05:52] <Jucato> lnxkde: see if this works: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=8041.0
[05:52] <actinic> i've heard the kde/kubuntu combo regarding cups is kind of hosed
[05:52] <Jucato> heard the same thing... wish I had a printer to find out...
[05:52] <actinic> no printer?
[05:53] <actinic> how do you document?
[05:53] <Jucato> I don't :-D
[05:53] <Jucato> well, my sister has a printer
[05:53] <lnxkde> Jucato, thankx I just did apt-get remove kpersonalizer
[05:53] <angasule> Jucato: :( why not? I saw some threads about .debs for hoary
[05:53] <actinic> lol, guess it's not for 'serious' use
[05:53] <actinic> :)
[05:53] <Jucato> I just send her what I need to print
[05:54] <Jucato> angasule: huh?
[05:55] <actinic> can u imagine the hell Windows would get without print functionality?
[05:55] <Jucato> lnxkde: ok :-D
[05:55] <lnxkde> Jucato, thankx
[05:55] <angasule> Jucato: gimpshop, why isn't it available, any idea?
[05:55] <Jucato> I'd see Windows being thrown out the window... pun intended
[05:55] <Jucato> ah.
[05:55] <actinic> that
[05:56] <actinic> that's true, you gotta find a way to print some how!
[05:56] <Jucato> I don't think gimpshop was ever made available in the official repositories. There are probably debs from other people, but not from the repositories
[05:57] <Synaptics> ok, i have a major problem. my mouse doesnt work
[05:59] <angasule> ah, and why?? using plain gimp removes 'human' from the ubuntu motto, it's just "linux for beings" :)
[05:59] <actinic> anyone else here print in Kubuntu?
[05:59] <angasule> actinic: not in a while, with a printer connected to the pc; over samba, yes
[06:00] <actinic> what printer?
[06:01] <angasule> hewlett-packard 1020 over the net, a lexmark 5000 over the net and directly connected as well
[06:01] <angasule> why, actinic?
[06:01] <obf213> hey my x has crashed randomly twice
[06:02] <obf213> the screen goes back, and then curser shows up like its going to show kdm but it never does
[06:02] <obf213> and then the screen goes blank, then the curshows up again, the processing sign shows up like its going to load kdm, then it goes back
[06:02] <obf213> any idas
[06:03] <angasule> check the error log?
[06:03] <actinic> angasule, curious on people's success, or lack thereof, with this distro
[06:03] <actinic> there's been problems
[06:04] <angasule> actinic: well, the lexmark I only used with breezy, I think
[06:05] <actinic> angasule: from what i've read many printers worked with breezy
[06:05] <obf213> anyone know wht happens when i dsktop just dissappears screen goes blank then loading curser shows up like kdm will show up but nothing works.
[06:06] <actinic> in dapper only 4 HP's are listed to choose from during install
[06:06] <actinic> i thought HP had about a 50% market share, lol
[06:43] <Kr4t05> Dood...
[06:43] <Kr4t05> Netsplit from hell.
[06:44] <Hawkwind> Where ?
[06:57] <robert_> anybody- help? (k)ubuntu won't progress past starting the kernel event manager - I had a power surge the other day, and now it won't start :/
[06:58] <angasule> robert_: ouch
[06:58] <robert_> heh, yeah
[06:59] <robert_> it hangs on starting the kernel event manager :/
[06:59] <robert_> do note, that I recently installed/configured my system for use with ldap- if that makes any difference\
[07:01] <angasule> robert_: sorry, I can't help, but good luck :/
[07:01] <evilgeek> is the KLaptop power manager fully integrated into with the kernel yet?
[07:02] <evilgeek> reason im asking is everytime I hibernate, and when I resume from it my kernel freezes and have to do a hard reboot
[07:02] <robert_> damn :/
[07:17] <Pupeno> How can I see the state of the battery of my notebook in the command line ?
[07:17] <Pupeno> cat /proc/... ?
[07:39] <abattoir> Pupeno: acpi
[07:41] <Pupeno> abattoir: thank you.
[07:41] <abattoir> Pupeno: you're welcome :)
[07:45] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Good evening/morning
[07:46] <abattoir> hello Hawkwind :)
[07:47] <mcrandello> does anyone know of any terminal emulators that will do 3270 and have ubuntu packages available?
[07:48] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:50] <mcrandello> apt-get couldn't find that one :(
[07:51] <abattoir> mcrandello: i think that was a greeting, not a response to your question :)
[07:51] <mcrandello> ah
[07:51] <mcrandello> in that case guten tag
[07:53] <abattoir> mcrandello: there seem to be a lot of packages(i dont know which ones)... so do a search for 3270 in adept
[07:53] <cong> hallo
[07:54] <mcrandello> abattoir: the only ones I'm showing are some debian packages I found that didn't even install fully due to some messed up dependencies
[07:55] <mcrandello> I'll try installing all the dev packages from xorg and see if I can't get x3270 to compile from source
[07:56] <abattoir> !info x3270
[07:56] <ubotu> Package x3270 does not exist in dapper
[07:56] <abattoir> !info x3270 edgy
[07:56] <ubotu> x3270: X11 program for telnet sessions to IBM mainframes. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.4p6-3.2 (edgy), package size 210 kB, installed size 584 kB
[07:56] <mcrandello> I found some hoary packages
[07:57] <unix_infidel> does the current gvim not have themes?
[07:57] <mcrandello> I have to wonder why noone ever maintained the tn3270 sources, there's still plenty of iron left running it
[07:58] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: Read their site, it should say
[07:58] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: nono, i meant after i upgraded to dapper i cant get color themes to work.
[07:58] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: Safe to assume you didn't do a fresh install, you upgraded which is never recommended
[07:58] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: you'd be wrong to assume.
[07:59] <mcrandello> if you didn't overwrite your homefiles there could be a dotfile that doesn't play well with the new version perhaps?
[07:59] <unix_infidel> there's no menu options for colorschemes and whenever i edit gvimrc it doesnt display the proper colorscheme.
[07:59] <unix_infidel> i've installed vim-gtk and vim-gnome
[08:00] <zac> hey I'm trying to restore grub to my MBR. my /boot partition is on /dev/hdc2. do I say grub-install /dev/hdc2 or grub-install /dev/hda, which is the primary master where windows is and what the computer boots from?
[08:00] <Hawkwind> Probably an old config file messing things up.  Hence the reason to do fresh installs
[08:00] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: no, its a brand new config file.
[08:00] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: this is a FRESH install.
[08:00] <unix_infidel> i've only appended with the colorscheme line.
[08:01] <mcrandello> zac the MBR would pretty much be the first portion of the first HD you boot from
[08:01] <zac> mcrandello: ok, so that would be /dev/hda, right
[08:01] <mcrandello> but don't take my word for it, I've never actually ran grub-install
[08:02] <unix_infidel> maybe i should ask in motu if the maintainers took out the colorscheme options.
[08:02] <mcrandello> I *think*
[08:02] <mcrandello> zac at the very least I'd make a windows boot disk with fdisk on it
[08:03] <mcrandello> that way if things get hosed you can put the windows boot sector back on the MBR with "fdisk /fixmbr" I think is the command
[08:06] <mythril> if I have 2 computers on a network that has not internet access does one of them have to be set up as a DHCP server?
[08:07] <mythril> in order for them to communicate that is
[08:08] <bimberi_> mythril: not necessarily, you can give them both static ip addresses
[08:09] <robert_> anybody- help? (k)ubuntu won't progress past starting the kernel event manager - I had a power surge the other day, and now it won't start :/
[08:11] <DFM> I have a question. I prefer KDE but my Thinkpad seems to work better with gnome. Example, with a stock install of Ubuntu my volume keys work and my laptops power functions work like suspend but none of these work inKDE. Any idea's?
[08:16] <abattoir> DFM: kcontrol/systemsettings->Regional & Acc.->Keyboard Layout->Keyboard Model....
[08:16] <unix_infidel> DFM: the power functions should work the same.
[08:16] <robert_> nobody has any idea why I'm having issues with ubuntu?
[08:17] <unix_infidel> as for the OSD stuff, you can do that with tpb or you can do it with the respective DE daemons.
[08:17] <unix_infidel> it should work on both.
[08:17] <mcrandello> robert_ it doesn't sound good I know that :(
[08:17] <mcrandello> try hitting esc at teh grub menu and booting into single user mode?
[08:18] <mcrandello> I'm not sure exactly what the command is with grub
[08:18] <robert_> hm, okay
[08:18] <mcrandello> http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.3-Manual/custom-guide/s1-rescuemode-booting-single.html
[08:18] <robert_> well
[08:18] <mcrandello> there's booting single mode
[08:18] <robert_> yeah
[08:18] <robert_> blah
[08:18] <robert_> bbs
[08:18] <mcrandello> see if you can at least get to a prompt
[08:29] <cilkay> Shouldn't you be able to switch X modes by hitting Ctrl-Alt-+ ?
[08:29] <DFM> sorry I was away for a second. teh problem I am ahving the most is my contrast is to high. when i go into display and change it from the rec 2.0 gamma to say apple's 1.8 and restart my resolution goes from 1024x768 to 800x600 and the gamma option is no longer visible.
[08:30] <DFM> thus I am stuck because lack of experience keeps me from changing it back
[08:31] <fritsch> DFM: you could set your gamma in xorg.conf
[08:31] <fritsch> DFM: just under Monitor Section
[08:31] <DFM> just use a text edito like nano?
[08:31] <DFM> editor
[08:31] <fritsch> DFM: Gamma gamma-value
[08:32] <fritsch> DFM: yes, after that you have to restart kdm for changes to take effekt
[08:32] <fritsch> DFM: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:32] <DFM> Let me try it thanks.
[08:33] <fritsch> DFM: yes this works, have tested just now
[08:35] <DFM> I just noticed that while searching for and changing gamma that the only resolution listed was 640x480
[08:36] <DFM> This happened last week and I changed the resolution but not the gamma and could never get back to 1024x768 so I reloaded. Since this is a learning machine nothing was lost
[08:38] <LeeJunFan> DFM: you don't learn by reloading :p you learn by not giving up until you figure out why :)
[08:39] <DFM> I have rebooted after changing my gamma back to it's original setting but my resolution is still stuck at 800x600 and the option for changing gamma is still not there.
[08:39] <DFM> true but when you can't see because the setting looks horrible on the lcd you have to reload and try again to see what happened.
[08:40] <DFM> for example I have finally figured out what I am doing to screw up my X and now I ma in here talking with you to try and figure it out.
[08:40] <DFM> and searching the web
[08:42] <unix_infidel> DFM: what thinkpad do you have.
[08:42] <DFM> I just rechecked my gamma settings and they are listing as the original 2.0 instead of the 1.0 they were showing. Further more in Kubuntu I only set them to 1.8 so any idea how they changed to 1.0?
[08:42] <DFM> a21m
[08:42] <unix_infidel> most all simple xorg settings were just fine on my thinkpad and i only needed to enable the advanced settings for power management, and device options.
[08:43] <SpAwN> what can i use to take a few small video clips and make them all into one nice video file....and prefebly let me add music to the video?
[08:43] <DFM> I think the lcd may be going since it is so old. all I want to do is bring down the contrast.
[08:44] <DFM> I tried to install the control center for gnome but the package manger keeps giving me the break-install
[08:44] <DFM> I figure it is smarter than i am and won't let me install because I may break something.
[08:45] <unix_infidel> DFM: its not that.
[08:45] <LeeJunFan> DFM: I think that 2.0 and 1.8 and such are just the charts they reccomend using to compare against. If you adjust the slider it should adjust your gamma to what you need, mine is best at about 80%.
[08:45] <unix_infidel> there's probably a dependency issue.
[08:46] <DFM> when I looked in the option it allowed you to change then said youhad to restart for it to take effect.
[08:47] <DFM> I would change and restart but the only thing that changed was my resolution that I can't seem to get back.
[08:47] <DFM> I know I am doing something wrong in this learning process I just haven't figured it out yet.
[08:47] <DFM> I figure with your help and reading I should find it.
[08:48] <fritsch> DFM: still there?
[08:48] <fritsch> DFM: please pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:48] <DFM> yes
[08:49] <fritsch> DFM: and look, that you don`change resolution kde internally
[08:49] <DFM> Give me a minute I am on my win machine
[08:49] <fritsch> DFM: one question again
[08:49] <DFM> k
[08:50] <fritsch> DFM: is KDM already in the wrong resolution?
[08:50] <fritsch> DFM: or first, if you have logged in?
[08:50] <DFM> It looks to be in the wrong resolution upon boot
[08:51] <DFM> when the login window comes up it's in the wrong resolution
[08:51] <fritsch> DFM: okay, I have a look - i think this is easy to fix
[08:51] <fritsch> DFM: something wrong with your xorg.conf
[08:51] <fritsch> DFM: how long do you need for pasting? i have to leave in 3 minutes?
[08:51] <fritsch> DFM: or you have to  for an hour? if you want?
[08:52] <fritsch> DFM: just pastebin, I ll ask you, when I return
[08:52] <DFM> i should be able te do it soon. I am goiing to try and login and paste
[08:52] <DFM> k
[08:53] <DFM> what is pastebin? paste the entire conf file here?
[08:54] <fritsch> !pastebin > DFM
[08:54] <fritsch> DFM: have to leave, till soon
[08:54] <DFM> k
[08:56] <SpAwN> hmm anyone know if there is a repo that has cinelerra on it...i cant seem to find it ont he normal ones
[08:59] <DFM> before I do anthing stupid and irrate people in here, can someone explain what he meant by !pastebin? I have noticed several time people would put an! before something. I am looking at irchelp.org right now trying to figure it out.
[09:00] <cilkay> I'm so close to getting dual screens working on my ThinkPad.
[09:00] <bimberi_> DFM: the ! triggers a response from ubotu, the channel bot
[09:00] <bimberi_> !botsnack
[09:00] <ubotu> Yum!
[09:01] <cilkay> Actually, I have it working. I cheated by looking at what Knoppix detected and copied/pasted bits of xorg.conf from the Knoppix example.
[09:03] <mcrandello> cilkay: what graphics chip you got in there?
[09:03] <cilkay> I see there is an option in System Settings to set two monitors with different resolutions but whenever I've tried, X crashed on boot claiming that there isn't enough video memory to allocate 2048x1536. The only place I see that figure is in "Virtual".
[09:03] <cilkay> ATI Rage Mobility 128, M3
[09:04] <cilkay> it's the r128 driver
[09:04] <SpAwN> anyone know a goo dvideo editor that will let me take multi videos adn turn them into one video file...and add sound/music to the vieo?
[09:04] <mcrandello> ah I guess my fglrx config wouldn't do much good then
[09:04] <SpAwN> i cant find packages for lives or cinelerra
[09:04] <SpAwN> and cinelerra wont compile from source for me
[09:05] <mcrandello> http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php has debs for sid
[09:05] <mcrandello> also this: http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/README
[09:05] <SpAwN> wow thanks mcrandello
[09:06] <SpAwN> i have been looking
[09:06] <mcrandello> when in doubt just put the name of the package and "debs" in google :)
[09:06] <cilkay> Hey, I know that guy at Kiberpipa. He hangs out at #django quite often.
[09:10] <SpAwN> mcrandello, hehe will do nex time
[09:11] <mcrandello> just watch the dependencies is all ;P
[09:11] <fritsch> DFM: still there?
[09:11] <DFM> yes
[09:11] <fritsch> DFM: can provide me the link?
[09:20] <cilkay> What is the difference between "Clone Primary Screen" and "Dual Screen" in the Display control panel?
[09:20] <cilkay> Clone I presume means both monitors must be running the same resolution.
[09:21] <cilkay> The other looks like they can be different. However, it isn't clear if the two monitors would be combined to form one larger virtual desktop or they would be clones but at different resolutions.
[09:22] <cilkay> Either way, it involves an X restart and if X is restarted, it crashes.
[09:22] <fritsch> cilkay: Clone can mean: both monitors have the same on screen
[09:22] <fritsch> cilkay: resolution can differ
[09:22] <fritsch> !pastebin
[09:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:23] <cilkay> But, it seems like I should be able to do what I want, which is to drive an external LCD projector while seeing what's being projected on my laptop's internal display.
[09:23] <cilkay> ... as long as I don't restart X.
[09:24] <cilkay> I don't see any obvious way of specifying different resolutions if the "Clone" option is selected.
[09:25] <fritsch> cilkay: which graphics card?
[09:25] <fritsch> cilkay: it is possible with mergedfb
[09:25] <fritsch> cilkay: if you have a radeon
[09:25] <cilkay> Not Radeon, it's a Rage Mobility 128
[09:26] <fritsch> cilkay: mmmh, i think you only way is to go with xinerama
[09:26] <cilkay> But that's for spanning desktops, isn't it?
[09:26] <fritsch> cilkay: here i think it is not possible, to clone with diifferent resoluting
[09:26] <fritsch> cilkay: yes
[09:26] <fritsch> cilkay: mmmh wait
[09:26] <cilkay> I don't need spanning. I need cloning.
[09:26] <cilkay> Different resolutions would be a "nice to have", not essential.
[09:27] <cilkay> Practically speaking, I'm not sure how you'd clone at different res anyway.
[09:27] <fritsch> cilkay: sorry have to google, but right busy
[09:28] <cilkay> What happens if I drag something out of the viewable area of the lower res display? I presume I could see it in the higher res one but unless there is a boundary indicator, there would be no way of knowing without looking at the projected image.
[09:28] <cilkay> That defeats the purpose of the exercise, which is to be able to see what my audience is seeing without me having to turn my back on them.
[09:29] <cilkay> I'll stick with what I have now, which "sort of" works.
[09:29] <cilkay> I can change resolutions and the internal and external will be synchronized.
[09:29] <cilkay> I'll see the change immediately without needing an X restart.
[09:30] <cilkay> However, if I restart, X will crash if I forget to turn off the cloning.
[09:32] <mike330> CuzZ
[09:32] <william_> hello every one im trying to learn more about the linux kernal i,e, tweak it. can anyone point me in the right direction?
[09:33] <william_> ???
[09:34] <mcrandello> lhttp://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/Kernel-Build-HOWTO.html
[09:35] <william_> thanks
[09:35] <mcrandello> the sgml source to the old guide is here :http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO/
[09:36] <eeos> hi there
[09:36] <eeos> I canot see dvd with kaffeine on kubuntu amd64
[09:36] <eeos> anyone with the sae problem?
[09:36] <eeos> anyone with the same problem?
[09:37] <fritsch> eeos: sudo apt-get install livdvdread
[09:37] <mcrandello> william_: also hang around in here and ##linux during peak times when you're rebuilding the kernel, I've been saved from disaster many a time that way
[09:37] <fritsch> eeos: sudo apt-get install livdvdread3
[09:37] <fritsch> eeos: after that: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[09:37] <fritsch> eeos: after this: retry
[09:38] <eeos> apt-get says: Couldn't find package livdvdread, Couldn't find package livdvdread3
[09:38] <william_> hold on
[09:38] <william_> brb and i'll tell you
[09:38] <fritsch> !libdvdread3
[09:38] <ubotu> libdvdread3: Simple foundation for reading DVDs. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.4-5.1 (dapper), package size 51 kB, installed size 168 kB
[09:38] <fritsch> eeos: it has to find
[09:39] <fritsch> eeos: sorry typo
[09:39] <fritsch> eeos: sudo apt-get install libdvdread
[09:39] <fritsch> eeos: warhg *G*
[09:39] <fritsch> eeos: sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[09:39] <mcrandello> it didn't on mine either and I've got uni+ multi enabled
[09:39] <eeos> it is already in the newest version
[09:39] <fritsch> eeos: after that: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[09:40] <mcrandello> ah the sneaky typo
[09:40] <fritsch> this will install the "tools" to watch encrypted tv
[09:40] <eeos> eeos: after that: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh <- i have already done that
[09:40] <eeos> shall I do it again every time I upgrae xine or kaffeine?
[09:41] <fritsch> eeos: no
[09:41] <william_> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[09:41] <fritsch> eeos: so the problem is a other one
[09:41] <fritsch> eeos: perhaps it canniot find your cd drive
[09:42] <fritsch> eeos: open a terminal
[09:42] <william_> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[09:42] <fritsch> eeos: start xine
[09:42] <eeos> fritsch: it does find it.
[09:47] <eeos> fritsch are you still there? I lost connection
[09:47] <fritsch> yes, sorry me lost connection too
[09:47] <Jucato_Lunch> net split
[09:49] <fritsch> eeos: what does the output say?
[09:49] <unix_infidel> my my, that was fun.
[09:49] <eeos> fritsch which outtput?
[09:49] <fritsch> eeos: just starte xine in a terminal
[09:49] <fritsch> eeos: place in your DVD and click on "watch dvd"
[09:49] <fritsch> eeos: pastebin the terminal content
[09:49] <fritsch> eeos: if usefull
[09:50] <mythril> How do I set up a socks proxy in kubuntu (I would like apt-get to use my proxy)?
[09:51] <fritsch> mythril: i think apt-get does not work in a socks proxy
[09:51] <fritsch> mythril: you have a http proxy here?
[09:52] <mythril> fritsch: yes
[09:52] <fritsch> mythril: okay
[09:53] <fritsch> mythril: sudo nano /etc/apt/apt.conf
[09:53] <fritsch> mythril: second line:
[09:53] <fritsch> mythril: Acquire::http::Proxy "proxyurl:PORT";
[09:53] <mcrandello> wow I think I may have discovered a bug
[09:53] <mcrandello> xcolors: no colors to display
[09:53] <mcrandello> xcolors has run out of colors :(
[09:53] <eeos> fritsch how do I send you the output of xine?
[09:54] <fritsch> !pastebin > eeos
[09:55] <eeos> fritsch ta!
[09:56] <eeos> fritsch here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21265
[09:57] <fritsch> eeos: seems to work perfectly fine?
[09:57] <fritsch> eeos: you have the w32codecs installed?
[09:58] <eeos> fritsch why should I need the w32codecs?
[09:58] <fritsch> eeos: perhaps dvds are only displayed with these codecs?
[09:58] <fritsch> eeos: was just a suggestion
[09:58] <eeos> fritsch I did not know that!
[09:58] <fritsch> eeos: me does not know it, too
[09:58] <fritsch> eeos: but i don`t know why you don`t get a picture
[09:59] <eeos> fritsch how do I install them on amd64? I have been able to install them on a chroot
[09:59] <fritsch> eeos: the log says that this is opened
[09:59] <Jucato> Encrypted DVD's need something else, methinks
[09:59] <fritsch> eeos: ah okay, forget then about it
[09:59] <eeos> Jucato somthing else, what?
[09:59] <fritsch> Jucato: he has instelad the "non free" encryption stuff
[10:00] <Jucato> Playing Encrypted DVD's: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-38508785e53c611dde1859232189b2e823135eb9
[10:00] <Jucato> oh ok...
[10:00] <Jucato>  ^_^
[10:00] <jamadagni> hello people
[10:00] <mythril> fritsch: am I supposed to restart anything for the http proxy to work?
[10:00] <Jucato> ey hi jamadagni
[10:00] <mcrandello> the rgbpath in X is simply the path to the rgb.txt file to use, plus "rgb", right?
[10:00] <jamadagni> hello jucato
[10:00] <jamadagni> and others
[10:01] <jamadagni> is it possible to have a graphical grub menu in kubuntu like in suse?
[10:01] <Jucato> jamadagni: you need to install gfxmenu (or was it gfxgrub)
[10:01] <Jucato> unfortunately, it's not something in the repositories
[10:02] <jamadagni> well there's this package called grub-splashimages_1.0.0_all.deb
[10:02] <jamadagni> will that do?
[10:02] <jamadagni> hey and how do you do that red lines thing?
[10:02] <mcrandello> I think that's just some xpm's to use at boot time
[10:02] <Jucato> jamadagni: that's different. it's not exactly like SUSE's
[10:02] <rodrigue> SAlut !
[10:02] <jamadagni> then what is it like?
[10:02] <Jucato> when someone mentions your name, the text will turn red for you
[10:03] <Jucato> jamadagni: it just basically puts a background image in the GRUB menu, but not like SUSE's
[10:03] <Jucato> wb to the netsplitters
[10:03] <jamadagni> jucato: did your text turn red?
[10:03] <Jucato> yes
[10:03] <jamadagni> :)
[10:03] <jamadagni> ok in what way not like suse's?
[10:04] <danish> question here
[10:04] <Jucato> jamadagni: well, just a background image. think: same GRUB menu, with just a background image
[10:04] <danish> i got a messege from installing firefox extension from real rhapsody
[10:04] <Jucato> that package, btw, installs a few choices of images
[10:05] <danish> when the install begins it says out of space
[10:05] <jamadagni> jucato: ok, and suse also gives only grub menu with bkgd img
[10:05] <Jucato> but SUSE's is prettier
[10:05] <jamadagni> ah oh
[10:05] <jamadagni> you mean with all the dots running around?
[10:05] <Jucato> there's a HOWTO in Ubuntuforums for it. just search for the key word 'gfxmenu' or 'gfxgrub'
[10:05] <ballchalk> hello
[10:06] <mythril> what repositories should be enabled by default on Kubuntu?
[10:07] <mcrandello> all of em
[10:07] <jamadagni> jucato: thx i'll check there
[10:07] <Jucato> mythril: in a new installation, if you were connected to the internet during installation, I think everything that has "main" and "restricted" , except for backports... not totally sure
[10:07] <mcrandello> well, it comes with everything but universe and multiverse iirc
[10:07] <danish> can somebody answer my question plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[10:07] <Jucato> if you didn't have an internet connection during installation, no repositories will be enabled
[10:08] <ballchalk> what are backports
[10:08] <Jucato> backports = dead repositories now..
[10:08] <Jucato>  ^_^
[10:08] <mythril> Jucato: that is my problem, I wasn't connected during install, now I am, need to know which should be available
[10:08] <mcrandello> when they take something from the next version and port it back to the current one I think
[10:08] <Jucato> mythril: the repositories will be there already. they're just disabled/commented. you don't have to add anything except "multiverse"
[10:09] <jamadagni> jucato: backports dead? why?
[10:09] <Jucato> backports used to be the place where developers/maintainers would put unofficial and more recent versions of apps or added new ones
[10:10] <Jucato> jamadagni: according to the developers, it has been non-functional for quite some time now, and there might be no plans of changing it
[10:10] <mythril> Jucato: I know, I am asking which to enable
[10:10] <Jucato> mythril: you'd basically want to enable all EXCEPT: "deb-src" (unless you want to download source code), anything with "backports" in the line
[10:11] <mythril> Jucato: thank you
[10:11] <ballchalk> how do i turn off winamp style in amarok 1.4.1
[10:12] <Jucato> ballchalk: Settings > Configure Amarok > Appearance options > uncheck "Show player window"
[10:13] <ballchalk> Jucato: is this in 1.4.1?
[10:13] <ballchalk> i dont see this
[10:13] <Jucato> in all Amarok
[10:13] <ballchalk> yea
[10:14] <Jucato> err sorry
[10:14] <Jucato> I meant "Genera" options
[10:14] <Jucato> General*
[10:14] <Jucato> sorry 'bout that
[10:16] <ballchalk> Jucato: hey thanks
[10:18] <unix_infidel> hey abattoir
[10:19] <abattoir> hello unix_infidel :)
[10:21] <mythril> is there a low level way to set up linux to use a proxy for as much as it can?
[10:21] <mythril> so I don't have to configure each and every app?
[10:21] <unix_infidel> mythril: squid
[10:24] <fdoving> mythril: yes, HTTP_PROXY in /etc/environment.
[10:27] <fdoving> mythril: an example: HTTP_PROXY="http://proxy.example.com:3128"
[10:27] <Jucato> would anyone be familiar with regex in Kate's Find & Replace?
[10:28] <fritsch> mythril: have you edited apt.conf?
[10:28] <fritsch> mythril: you should not have to restart ...
[10:28] <fritsch> mythril: the low level way was explained by fdoving
[10:30] <fdoving> Jucato: looks like regular regular expressions to me.
[10:30] <Jucato> fdoving: yeah. I was hoping to replace everything enclosed in [ ]  in Kate...
[10:31] <Jucato> trying to remove 272 lines worth of time stamps... :-D
[10:31] <fdoving> ah.. from dmesg output?
[10:31] <Jucato> from a chat log
[10:31] <Jucato> ^_^
[10:31] <Jucato> last time I did it was to manually delete them line by line...
[10:32] <Jucato> unfortunately, it seems that brackets are special characters in regular expression?
[10:32] <Jucato> experssions*
[10:32] <noiesmo> Jucato, I don't know the syntax but sed I think can do it
[10:32] <noiesmo> !sed
[10:32] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:32] <Jucato> noiesmo: thanks! I'll look into it
[10:33] <Jucato> oh cool! I just stumbled on an answer on my own... @_@
[10:34] <Jucato> the regex pattern ..:..:.. will remove all everything with timestamps...
[10:34] <noiesmo> whats that Jucato
[10:34] <Jucato> Good thing Kate has a built in feature for searching using regex
[10:36] <Jucato> hmm... ubotu's link seems to be incorrect? or is the help.ubuntu.com site down?
[10:43] <abattoir> Jucato: it works for me
[10:43] <Jucato> must be my internet connection...
[10:48] <DocTomoe> Hm, Is there any known way to tell quanta to start w/o opening the previous session?
[10:58] <damian_> can anyone help me
[10:58] <fdoving> !ask
[10:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:59] <Jucato> fdoving: lol! is that a new one? hehehe
[10:59] <damian_> how do I start up programs at different runlevels
[10:59] <damian_> is there a guide somewhere
[11:01] <Synaptics> anyone tried to use photoshop cs in kubuntu?
[11:03] <thyko> is ut possible to make kb3 normalize tracks while burning on the fly?
[11:03] <jujimufu> I try to install the i810 drivers from dri.freedesktop.org and I get this error:
[11:03] <jujimufu> The DRI drivers can not be installed without the latest kernel modules.
[11:03] <jujimufu> Installation will be aborted. See the dri.log file for information on
[11:03] <jujimufu> what went wrong
[11:03] <thyko> jujimufu: your kernel is later tha required
[11:03] <jujimufu> I checked the dri.log file, and it says that there is no kernel config found in the PC
[11:03] <fdoving> jujimufu: you shouldn't need to install anything from dri.freedesktop.org
[11:04] <jujimufu> fdoving: why not?
[11:04] <thyko> older than the package requires.
[11:04] <thyko> is ut possible to make kb3 normalize tracks while burning on the fly? anyone?
[11:04] <fdoving> jujimufu: your kernel config is at /boot/config-`uname -r`
[11:05] <jujimufu> fdoving: ok, and what am I supposed to do with it? Because I went to the ubuntu wiki, to the article about re-compiling a kernel (taht is, changig the alreayd-installed kernel, not compiling one from scratch), and it was outdated, and other people said o.
[11:05] <jujimufu> *so
[11:06] <fritsch> jujimufu: why do you need new dri drivers?
[11:06] <jujimufu> fritsch: to enable DRI
[11:06] <fdoving> thyko: yes, you need to have the 'normalize-audio' package installed.
[11:06] <fritsch> jujimufu: what is your card?
[11:06] <thyko> jujimufu: why dont you just download the latest from kernel.org and compile that?
[11:07] <fritsch> jujimufu: ah i think, your "kernel modul" is just not supported
[11:07] <jujimufu> fritsch: intel 855GM, i915 drivers if I am not mistaken
[11:07] <jujimufu> thyko: I tried that, but I had problems
[11:07] <fritsch> jujimufu: this sould really work out of the box
[11:07] <jujimufu> fritsch: any ideas on how to do so?
[11:07] <fritsch> jujimufu: which driver uses your X at the moment?
[11:08] <fritsch> jujimufu: yes i know how to do it ... it will need approx 2 hours to instruct and guide you
[11:08] <jujimufu> 2 hours? because of the compilation process?
[11:08] <Synaptics> anyone tried to use photoshop cs in kubuntu???
[11:08] <fritsch> jujimufu: but the intel card should work out of the box
[11:08] <fritsch> jujimufu: yes
[11:09] <fritsch> jujimufu: could you pastebin the output from glxinfo
[11:09] <jujimufu> I see in my lsmod the following: vga16fb, agpgart, intel_agp
[11:10] <fritsch> jujimufu: sudo modprobe i915
[11:10] <fritsch> jujimufu: what is happening?
[11:10] <jujimufu> it loads it
[11:10] <jujimufu> i915 is now in my lsmod
[11:10] <fritsch> jujimufu: after that do: dmesg |grep i915
[11:10] <fritsch> jujimufu: cool!
[11:10] <jujimufu> but "direcr rendering" is still at "no" in glxinfo, meh
[11:10] <jujimufu> wait
[11:10] <fritsch> jujimufu: please pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:10] <fritsch> jujimufu: i need to see your xorg.conf
[11:11] <jujimufu> wait wait
[11:12] <jujimufu> http://pastebin.ca/142149 -> glxinfo, http://pastebin.ca/142153 -> xorg.conf
[11:12] <jujimufu> and dmesg gives:
[11:12] <jujimufu> http://pastebin.ca/142153
[11:12] <jujimufu> NO
[11:12] <jujimufu> wait
[11:12] <jujimufu> it gives
[11:12] <jujimufu> [17179592.220000]  i915: Unknown parameter `/sbin/modprobe'
[11:12] <jujimufu> [17179608.784000]  [drm]  Initialized i915 1.4.0 20060119 on minor 0
[11:12] <jujimufu> [17179608.784000]  [drm]  Initialized i915 1.4.0 20060119 on minor 1
[11:12] <fritsch> jujimufu: must not be a problem
[11:13] <jujimufu> fritsch: ok
[11:13] <fritsch> jujimufu: what says: glxgears -printfps
[11:13] <fritsch> jujimufu: tz, tz, tz
[11:13] <fritsch> Mesa: CPU vendor: GenuineIntel
[11:13] <fritsch> Mesa: CPU name:         Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.40GHz
[11:13] <fritsch> Mesa: MMX cpu detected.
[11:13] <fritsch> Mesa: SSE cpu detected.
[11:13] <fritsch> Mesa: Not testing OS support for SSE, leaving enabled.
[11:13] <fritsch> display: :0  screen: 0
[11:13] <fritsch> direct rendering: Yes
[11:13] <fritsch> sorry
[11:13] <fritsch> Direct Rendering: Yes <- working perfectly fine
[11:14] <fritsch> jujimufu: sudo echo i915 >> /etc/modules
[11:14] <jujimufu> hey!
[11:14] <jujimufu> that was't working before!
[11:14] <fritsch> jujimufu: reboot and you are fine
[11:14] <fritsch> jujimufu: yes your kernel modul was not loaded
[11:14] <unix_infidel> fritsch: when you do an append like that. it does it after the current EOF right?
[11:14] <fritsch> jujimufu: do the command from aboe
[11:14] <jujimufu> aboe?
[11:14] <Mandalf> Hello All
[11:15] <fritsch> unix_infidel: yes, just before the NEW EOF
[11:15] <Mandalf> Huw to install a FTP-server on ubuntu?
[11:15] <fritsch> jujimufu: please add i915 to /etc/modules
[11:15] <fritsch> jujimufu: restart your computer and look if it stills works
[11:15] <jujimufu> fritsch: it says "permission denied" although I do it with sudo
[11:15] <fritsch> jujimufu: sudo nano /etc/modules
[11:15] <eeos> fritsch I have done some experiments, everything works .... but the screen is still balnk!
[11:15] <Mandalf> Im sitting in a terminal
[11:15] <Mandalf> I want to install a FTP-server
[11:15] <eeos> fritsch that is very strange
[11:16] <fritsch> jujimufu: add i915 behind
[11:16] <fritsch> eeos: mmh :-( shit my brain
[11:16] <fritsch> eeos: what did we do before?
[11:16] <jujimufu> there is the following: "i915 /sbin/modprobe "-k" "intel_agp"
[11:16] <fritsch> eeos: just helped at least 10 people, sorry cannot remember
[11:16] <eeos> fritsch sorry! I apologise
[11:16] <fritsch> jujimufu: delete this line
[11:17] <fritsch> jujimufu: and just place here i915
[11:17] <jujimufu> and add "i915" ?
[11:17] <jujimufu> ok
[11:17] <eeos> fritsch rying to have kaffeine/xine reading dvds on amd64
[11:17] <jujimufu> so, reboot now and it should work?
[11:17] <fritsch> jujimufu: ah okay
[11:17] <fritsch> eeos: what graphics driver do you use?
[11:17] <Mandalf> Can someone help me?
[11:17] <fritsch> eeos: fglrx?
[11:17] <fritsch> Mandalf: it depends
[11:17] <jujimufu> fritsch: thanks a million :D :D
[11:17] <eeos> fritsch yes fglrx
[11:17] <fritsch> jujimufu: just wait for the reboot *G* the million i will take
[11:18] <fritsch> jujimufu: could just be XV overlay problem
[11:18] <eeos> fritsch are there fglrx related problems?
[11:18] <fritsch> eeos: open a terminal
[11:18] <jujimufu> Mandalf: sudo apt-get install proftpd
[11:18] <jujimufu> !proftpd
[11:18] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.10-27ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 351 kB, installed size 1052 kB
[11:18] <fritsch> eeos: sudo aticonfig overlay-type=Xv
[11:18] <jujimufu> Mandalf: visit http://www.proftpd.org/ for documentation, though
[11:19] <jujimufu> aaaaand, reboot! w00t!
[11:19] <eeos> fritsch done
[11:19] <eeos> fritsch what is that?
[11:19] <fritsch> eeos: koay, now restart kdm
[11:19] <eeos> fritsch from scratch?
[11:19] <fritsch> eeos: it says that the driver sould use XV overlay instead of GL
[11:19] <fritsch> eeos: if you can just reboot *g*
[11:19] <eeos> fritsch ok
[11:19] <fritsch> eeos: or /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[11:20] <fritsch> eeos: CTRL ALT Backspace might help, too *G*
[11:20] <mroq> k
[11:20] <eeos> fritsch see you later then
[11:20] <fritsch> eeos: but save your settings, we have to restart the x server
[11:24] <mroq> anyone speaks in polish? i've got a little problem with my graphic and wireless under kubuntu 6
[11:25] <jujimufu> fritsch: um... the kubuntu splash screen loads just fine, but then, instead of loading X, I get a black screen. Any ideas?
[11:25] <fritsch> jujimufu: what have you booted now?
[11:26] <fritsch> jujimufu: can you login on a shell?
[11:27] <fritsch> jujimufu: did you do sth. "overwriting" stuff with your hand compiled  dri stuff?
[11:27] <DocTomoe> How can I delete a subdirectory recursively? I acidentally checked out a source tree and uploaded it to a server, now I have to get rid of all .svn subdirectories.
[11:27] <fritsch> DocTomoe: rm -r "DIRECTORY"
[11:28] <fritsch> DocTomoe: rm -r .svn*
[11:28] <jujimufu> fritsch: I don't remember if I did. I might as well have
[11:28] <fritsch> jujimufu: mmmh, have you bootet kubuntu now?
[11:28] <DocTomoe> fritsch: I do not want to delete a DIRECTORY, but a given subdirectory in every branch of a directory tree
[11:28] <fritsch> jujimufu: no, I thinkg *g*
[11:28] <jujimufu> fritsch: and no, I can't login on a shell via a console, as no combination of Alt+Ctrl+F# works..
[11:28] <jujimufu> fritsch: no, I am on another windows (ewwww) box
[11:28] <fritsch> jujimufu: okay, so we have to rescue
[11:29] <fritsch> DocTomoe: ah okay
[11:29] <jujimufu> fritsch: I have the kubuntu live cd, wait until I get it to boot
[11:29] <fritsch> jujimufu: boot up with the kubuntu live cd and chroot in
[11:29] <fritsch> jujimufu: yes okay
[11:29] <jujimufu> fritsch: God, I wonder how you can manage all those people together :)
[11:30] <fritsch> DocTomoe: so you have .svn1 .svn2 etc. and there is a subdir in every folder?
[11:30] <fritsch> DocTomoe: f. ex. .svn1/TEST .svn2/TEST etc.
[11:30] <DocTomoe> fritsch: I have a images/.svn, a templates/.svn and so on, and I want to get rid of the .svn's
[11:30] <fritsch> DocTomoe: okay
[11:31] <fritsch> DocTomoe: a script like: for all dirs in myDirectory delete all subdirs .svn recursively, if the exist
[11:32] <DocTomoe> fritsch: exactly ... sorry, my english is not that great :)
[11:32] <fritsch> DocTomoe: mine, too
[11:32] <fritsch> DocTomoe: what is your native language?
[11:32] <fritsch> DocTomoe: a "bash script" is the way to go
[11:32] <fritsch> DocTomoe: alternatively *g* the easy way
[11:32] <jujimufu> fritsch: wouldn't rm -r *.svn work?
[11:32] <fritsch> jujimufu: no
[11:33] <fritsch> jujimufu: this will delete every file, which ends in .svn
[11:33] <fritsch> jujimufu: perhaps */.svn/ :-)
[11:33] <fritsch> jujimufu: but i test first
[11:33] <jujimufu> fritsch: oh, ok :)
[11:33] <jujimufu> fritsch: so, I booted. Whenever you are available,. tell me
[11:34] <fritsch> DocTomoe: yes, this works
[11:34] <qweasd> Huw to set up users on vsftpd in terminal
[11:34] <qweasd> ?
[11:35] <fritsch> rm -r */.svn BUT DONT make space between * and so on
[11:35] <DocTomoe> fritsch: rm -rf */.svn? Will this also work with /images/foo/.svn?
[11:35] <fritsch> jujimufu: okay iam right here
[11:35] <qweasd> !vsftpd
[11:35] <ubotu> vsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 107 kB, installed size 404 kB
[11:35] <fritsch> DocTomoe: no
[11:35] <fritsch> DocTomoe: it only does the first "ebene" then look for / ... so on
[11:35] <jujimufu> fritsch: ok. I've chrooted. What do I need to change? (btw, glxgears was working just fine before)
[11:36] <fritsch> jujimufu: sudo nano /etc/X11/modules
[11:36] <fritsch> jujimufu: sorry
[11:36] <fritsch> jujimufu: sudo nano /etc/modules
[11:36] <jujimufu> fritsch: yeah.
[11:36] <fritsch> jujimufu: just BEFORE, a line over i915
[11:36] <fritsch> jujimufu: write intel_agp
[11:37] <jujimufu> fritsch: done. Save and reboot?
[11:37] <fritsch> jujimufu: yes, logout the chroot, umount and reboot
[11:37] <jujimufu> fritsch: roger that :)
[11:38] <jujimufu> fritsch: btw, have you ever worked with xaamp?
[11:38] <fritsch> DocTomoe: you need a perl regex, which goes 0,1,...,n deep in the dirs
[11:38] <fritsch> jujimufu: what is this?
[11:38] <DocTomoe> fritsch: well, then it's time for learning the arcane arts of shellscripting. Thanks,nevertheless
[11:38] <fritsch> DocTomoe: yes ;-)
[11:38] <jujimufu> fritsch: oh, it's some bundle with apache, php and mysql servers for your PC
[11:38] <fritsch> DocTomoe: it is a godd think to learn
[11:38] <fritsch> DocTomoe: but there is an easy way
[11:39] <DocTomoe> fritsch: sorry, no Nrnberger Trichter availible here ;)
[11:39] <fritsch> jujimufu: ah okay *G* just instelled everything separately, htought it was called lamp
[11:39] <fritsch> DocTomoe: lol
[11:39] <jujimufu> fritsch: yeah :) it used to be called laamp, but now -for some reason- they call it xaamp
[11:39] <fritsch> DocTomoe: klick mal auf ads kde icon, mache "suchen nach dateien und orndern" und gib .svn ein
[11:39] <fritsch> DocTomoe: dann alle Ergebnisse lschen *G* (sorry for german)
[11:39] <DocTomoe> fritsch: das problem ist: die Dateien liegen auf einem server, ber den ich nur per ssh kontrolle habe
[11:40] <fritsch> DocTomoe: okay ;-) fish is your friend
[11:40] <fritsch> DocTomoe: einfach im konqueror per fish ne ssh verbindung machen
[11:40] <jujimufu> fritsch: well, I am having problems, because, after installing xaamp, having downloaded e107 (e107.org), I tried opening the install.php script with firefox (which opened just fine the xaamp menu), it couldn't open it :/
[11:40] <fritsch> DocTomoe: einfach sftp://HOST eingeben
[11:41] <fritsch> jujimufu: what do you want to do with the instal script?
[11:41] <DocTomoe> oh man, I love that network transparency thing
[11:41] <DocTomoe> that should have been soooo obvious
[11:41] <DocTomoe> thanks!
[11:41] <jujimufu> fritsch: install the e107 cms or whatever is on my PC so I can make my site there, and then upload it on some web server.
[11:41] <fritsch> DocTomoe: no problem :-) just invite me for beer drinking *g*
[11:41] <fritsch> jujimufu: okay
[11:42] <fritsch> jujimufu: have you set up mysql correctly?
[11:42] <jujimufu> fritsch: can't really tell, I just noticed: I still get the black screen :/
[11:42] <fritsch> jujimufu: chroot in again
[11:42] <fritsch> jujimufu: chane /etc/X11/xorg.conf from i915 to vesa
[11:42] <eeos> fritsch no improvment. could you please give me the command again to move from xv to gl?
[11:43] <fritsch> eeos: just sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:43] <fritsch> eeos: and look for "overlay"
[11:43] <DocTomoe> fritsch: Will be glad to ... just inform me when you are in the Mainz/Wiesbaden area...
[11:43] <jujimufu> fritsch: wait. my xorg.conf has i810, if I remember well. Do you mean /etc/modules?
[11:43] <fritsch> eeos: try to use the radeon modul
[11:43] <Synaptics> anyone can help me out. have anyone tried to use photoshop cs in kubuntu???
[11:43] <eeos> fritsch radeon module?
[11:43] <fritsch> jujimufu: no change i810 to vesa in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:44] <jujimufu> fritsch: ok ok
[11:44] <fritsch> jujimufu: and remove i915 and intel_agp from /etc/modules
[11:44] <jujimufu> fritsch: wait
[11:44] <DocTomoe> Synaptics: Won't work with wine, but I heard Crossover may help
[11:44] <fritsch> eeos: yes, use the radeon display driver instead of fglrx
[11:44] <Synaptics> DocTomoe: where can i get crossover?
[11:44] <fritsch> eeos: just for testing ...
[11:44] <eeos> fritsch I thought fglrx was the radeon module
[11:44] <DocTomoe> Synaptics: Crossover is a commercial product of http://www.codeweavers.com/
[11:45] <fritsch> eeos: no it is the proprietary display driver from ATI
[11:45] <fritsch> eeos: change /etc/X11/xorg.conf fglrx to radeon
[11:45] <fritsch> eeos: you won`t have 3d accelartion, but we can try the dvd thing
[11:45] <eeos> fritsch ok, then restart kdm?
[11:45] <DocTomoe> Synaptics: you might want to check the compatibility database at http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/cat before buying
[11:45] <fritsch> eeos: if it works, we build ne ati drivers ;-)
[11:45] <fritsch> eeos: yes
[11:46] <fritsch> eeos: please
[11:46] <Synaptics> thanks DocTomoe . i'll check it out
[11:47] <eeos> fritsch eeos: if it works, we build ne ati drivers ;-) I do not understand that
[11:47] <fritsch> DocTomoe: Mainz is not very far from Karlsruhe, or is it? no
[11:47] <fritsch> eeos: if this works, then this is an ati fglrx issue
[11:47] <fritsch> eeos: so we build new fglrx driver from source
[11:47] <eeos> fritsch ah! understand
[11:48] <nidal> hi all !!! I know this has been discussed a lot but couldnt get an answer thats why this post
[11:48] <julien> Good morning
[11:49] <fritsch> nidal: how can we help you?
[11:49] <nidal> whenever I try to use apt-get , synaptic or adept  to install(behind proxy) , I get a "403 Forbidden" error
[11:49] <JohnFlux_> how lude!
[11:49] <fritsch> nidal: mmh perhaps your proxy blocks it?
[11:49] <nidal> no , I have confirmed it
[11:49] <fritsch> nidal: you can visit the urls in the browser?
[11:49] <Synaptics> DocTomoe: i checked out the site you gave me. it said known not to work..............any other software recommended to run adobe photoshop cs
[11:49] <JohnFlux_> nidal: which server?
[11:50] <nidal> yes,
[11:50] <nidal> I can visit through firefox
[11:50] <fritsch> nidal: what is your /etc/apt/apt.conf
[11:50] <nidal> and download the deb manually and install
[11:50] <fritsch> nidal: is this the same proxy as in firefox
[11:50] <fritsch> nidal: how do you set your proxy?
[11:50] <nidal> ACQUIRE {
[11:50] <nidal> http::proxy "http://10.9.11.50:8000/"
[11:50] <nidal> }
[11:50] <nidal> I tried with blank /etc/apt/apt.conf also , but same issue
[11:51] <nidal> one more thing
[11:51] <nidal> all the ftp mirrors pass through without any problem
[11:51] <nidal> but http is causing problem
[11:51] <fritsch> nidal: just try it this way: Acquire::http::Proxy "http://10.9.11.50:8000";
[11:51] <DocTomoe> Synaptics: How about MacOSX, then? The Windows Emulation market is pretty thin (Wine, Crossover, CeDeGa)
[11:51] <nidal> I went through googling thoroughly and came to know that many many people  have faced this problem
[11:51] <fritsch> without the { in one line
[11:51] <fritsch> without and without the / at last
[11:52] <buz> !strigi
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about strigi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <fdoving> nidal: did you try to set the proxy in /etc/environment, with HTTP_PROXY="http://10.9.11.50:8000" - then use a blank apt.conf ?
[11:52] <dbglt>   realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable
[11:52] <jujimufu> fritsch: I get some jibberish on top, and the rest of the screen is black
[11:52] <fritsch> eeos: working?
[11:52] <dbglt> any idea how to fix that? :\
[11:52] <jujimufu> dbglt: download and install xlibx by hand
[11:52] <fritsch> jujimufu: ohh *G* i think you have terribly messed up with "handly" installing the i915
[11:52] <fritsch> jujimufu: can you login?
[11:53] <jujimufu> fritsch: no, chrooting again :)
[11:53] <nidal> fritsch, I tried that also , but same issue
 Synaptics: How about MacOSX, then? The Windows Emulation market is pretty thin (Wine, Crossover, CeDeGa)<---- im using a pc
[11:53] <fritsch> jujimufu: okay chroot again, change vesa to i810 again
[11:53] <fritsch> jujimufu: retry
[11:53] <nidal> fdoving, I have tried that and failed
[11:54] <fritsch> nidal: you tried this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186455&highlight=403+Forbidden
[11:54] <DocTomoe> Synaptics: Is there no way to achieve your goals with something other than photoshop? I heard krita was useable, or gimp.
[11:54] <DocTomoe> Synaptics: both can read psd (I am not sure if they can write them...)
[11:54] <fritsch> nidal: they suggest chaning http to ftp
[11:54] <fritsch> nidal: i read further
[11:55] <Synaptics> thanks anyway
[11:55] <nidal> fritsch, I have that page already opened with me and tried that also
[11:55] <nidal> the issue with that is that there are some mirrors without any ftp , what to do with those ?
[11:55] <jujimufu> dbglt: google for: xlibs-static and xlibs
[11:55] <nidal> and becoz of this issue , tools like "easyubuntu" and "automatix" are failing
[11:55] <fritsch> nidal: yes i know, i just search
[11:56] <frootstripe> f
[11:56] <nidal> fritsch , its really amazing man !! no solution yet for such an issue :)
[11:56] <fritsch> nidal: i have another solution
[11:56] <nidal> please tell
[11:56] <fritsch> nidal: Acquire::::Proxy "false";
[11:57] <nidal> dude !!! I have tried that also
[11:57] <fritsch> nidal: do this, which DISABLES proxy
[11:57] <fritsch> nidal: and export your proxy in /etc/environment
[11:57] <nidal> ohhhh I missed the second step
[11:57] <nidal> no , but I have set up proxy in system level
[11:57] <nidal> is that you want
[11:57] <nidal> I mean
[11:57] <nidal> export http_proxy=10.9.11.10:8000
[11:57] <nidal> ?
[11:57] <fritsch> nidal: yes
[11:58] <fritsch> nidal: and what happens now?
[11:58] <fdoving> nidal: with http://
[11:58] <fritsch> nidal: sudo apt-get update possible?
[11:58] <nidal> I had tried that also man
[11:58] <fritsch> nidal: yes with http, please
[11:58] <fritsch> nidal: set apt.conf proxy on false and enable it system wide
[11:58] <nidal> enable what ?
[11:58] <nidal> please clarify
[11:58] <fritsch> nidal: okay
[11:59] <fdoving> ok, i need to setup at test environment for this. I can't belive this is a bug in apt.
[11:59] <fritsch> nidal: /etc/apt/apt.conf set Acquire::::Proxy "false";
[11:59] <fdoving> nidal: hang on, seting up squid.
[11:59] <nidal> ok
[11:59] <fritsch> nidal: in /etc/environment add http_proxy=http://10.9.11.10:8000"
[11:59] <fritsch> nidal: in /etc/environment add http_proxy="http://10.9.11.10:8000"
[11:59] <fritsch> nidal: after new login, give it a try
[11:59] <fdoving> nidal: you are aware of that changes in /etc/environment needs a re-login to be activated?
[12:00] <fritsch> nidal: do what fdoving suggests ;-) re log in
[12:00] <nidal> a "source /etc/environment" would do right?
[12:00] <fritsch> nidal: sudo nano /etc/environment
[12:01] <fritsch> nidal: environment has nothing to do with apt
[12:01] <nidal> I understand that
[12:01] <fritsch> eeos: still there?
[12:01] <jujimufu> fritsch: black screen again. I will try and uninstall any changes I did.
[12:01] <fdoving> nidal: yes. source would do it. you can check with 'env|grep -i proxy'
[12:01] <eeos> fritsch yes, I need to finish something beafore having another go
[12:01] <nidal> its fine
[12:01] <fritsch> jujimufu: we undid every change "we two" have done
[12:01] <fritsch> eeos: okay
[12:01] <nidal> root@pirana:~# echo $http_proxy
[12:01] <nidal> http://10.9.11.10:8000
[12:02] <fritsch> nidal: okay
[12:02] <fritsch> nidal: now do: sudo apt-get update
[12:02] <beazely> are ata timeouts a known issue with kernel 2.6.15-26-686? i went back to 2.6.15-25-686 and they stopped, it causes a couple of second system freeze everytime it happens
[12:02] <fritsch> nidal: and this does not work
[12:02] <Synaptics> hello, i just remembered..........how do i check my status on my Lan/wireless. example.........in windows there is usually a small icon on the taskbar if we're connected or not...........any ideas if there are anything similar as that in kubuntu?
[12:02] <nidal> it does NOT buddy
[12:02] <fritsch> Synaptics: sudo apt-get install kwirelessmonitor
[12:02] <nidal> I had tried all these several times
[12:03] <fritsch> nidal: with the same errors
[12:03] <jujimufu> fritsch: yeah, i figured. That's why I will try and undo what I did before coming here...
[12:03] <Synaptics> thank you fritsch
[12:03] <nidal> fritsch , with the same error
[12:03] <fritsch> nidal: mmmh try to delete the whole PROXY line in /etc/apt.conf
[12:03] <fritsch> nidal: this causes problems for some users
[12:03] <fritsch> nidal: please try
[12:04] <nidal> I had (and have now) tried that also
[12:04] <nidal> but SAME problem
[12:04] <nidal> infact what I understand from my (extensive) googling is that many people have faced this and they have tried all these
[12:04] <nidal> but some have not been able to get it done with all these
[12:05] <fritsch> nidal: you are one of these i think
[12:05] <nidal> indeed :)
[12:05] <nidal> and I am not alone
[12:05] <fritsch> nidal: mmh "just a shot in the blue" *g* wait
[12:05] <fritsch> nidal: sudo ifconfig ethX mtu 1452
[12:05] <nidal> there are many guys in my office would like to migrate to kubuntu
[12:05] <fritsch> nidal: where ethX ist your network device
[12:05] <nidal> and all of them are getting stuck at this point
[12:05] <fdoving> nidal: this works for me.
[12:07] <fdoving> nidal: 'sudo -s' to get a root shell,  then: export http_proxy="http://proxy.ip:3128" and then 'apt-get update'. this works.
[12:08] <fritsch> fdoving: i think he has found an apt bug, many have this
[12:08] <fritsch> fdoving: he is doing it all right, i think
[12:08] <nidal> I am already sodoED to -i
[12:08] <nidal> and exported the proxy already
[12:08] <nidal> now trying "apt-get update"
[12:09] <jujimufu> fritsch: ok, I think I am d00med. In the "common" directory of files I tried to install, there is only an install.sh file, and no uninstall file...
[12:09] <fdoving> 99% [Connecting to 192.168.10.1 (192.168.10.1)] 
[12:09] <fdoving> says my apt.-
[12:09] <fritsch> nidal: you need to authentificate with the proxy? username, owd?
[12:09] <fritsch> jujimufu: sh install.sh ..uninstall
[12:09] <fritsch> jujimufu: yes you are :-)
[12:09] <fritsch> jujimufu: NEVER overwrite debian installations
[12:10] <fritsch> jujimufu: google fro dri-common uninstall
[12:10] <fritsch> jujimufu: and everything had just worked, if you had modprobed i915
[12:11] <fritsch> jujimufu: mmmh, lets try to fix it
[12:11] <nidal> fritsch, no authentication
[12:11] <fritsch> jujimufu: sudo apt-get install rcconf (in your chroot shell)
[12:11] <nidal> I am trying apt-get update
[12:11] <fritsch> jujimufu: sudo rcconf
[12:11] <nidal> and result is promising
[12:11] <fritsch> jujimufu: disable kdm from starting
[12:11] <Synaptics> fritsch:  what happens if we overwrite debian installations?
[12:11] <nidal> now I am not getting any 403 errors
[12:12] <fritsch> nidal: if this is working you have done something terrible wrong in /etc/entironment
[12:12] <jujimufu> fritsch: um.. I try to apt-get from the chrooted, and I get this: "sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()"
[12:12] <fritsch> nidal: check /etc/environment for the correct entries
[12:12] <fritsch> jujimufu: yes this sucks ;-)
[12:12] <nidal> fritsch, I have not changed those things from default except setting up proxy
[12:13] <nidal> I think what corrected the problem is "ifconfig eth0 mtu 1452"
[12:13] <fritsch> nidal: yes the default proxy in /etc/apt.conf make problems, the False line which is now away, i think
[12:13] <fdoving> nidal: could it be upper/lowercase http_proxy vs HTTP_PROXY ?
[12:13] <fritsch> nidal: hehe *G* cool
[12:13] <fritsch> fdoving: it is the mtu ;-) hehe
[12:13] <nidal> I tried both UPPER and lower man
[12:13] <nidal> i think its the mtu
[12:13] <fritsch> nidal: hehe mtu *g* how cool
[12:13] <fdoving> hah :)
[12:13] <fritsch> nidal: then hardcode the mtu in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:13] <nidal> now still I have some errors , but those are specific ones like dupicate entries and all
[12:14] <nidal> I need to clear up my /etc/apt/sources.list to a good list
[12:14] <nidal> can you suggest me one ?
[12:14] <fritsch> mtu 1452
[12:14] <fritsch> nidal: you are running kubuntu?
[12:14] <nidal> I need all non-free packages like mp3 , w32 etc
[12:14] <fritsch> nidal: on an i386?
[12:14] <nidal> yes KUBUNTU
[12:14] <nidal> yaaa
[12:14] <fdoving> !source-o-matic
[12:14] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:14] <nidal> IBM thinkpad
[12:14] <nidal> I had seen that page also
[12:14] <fritsch> nidal: wget http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~unatk/sources.list
[12:15] <jujimufu> fritsch: dri.freedesktop.org is driving me crazy: tehre is not one page entitled "remove" or "uninstall"
[12:15] <nidal> ok , I will try this
[12:15] <nidal> but please tell me one thing
[12:15] <nidal> what was the issue with MTU ?
[12:15] <fritsch> nidal: add the mtu 1452 under you device
[12:15] <nidal> why did it behave so crazy with this mtu ?
[12:15] <fritsch> nidal: if the mtu is too high, you cannot access some sites during a nat
[12:15] <nidal> and before I changed to 1452( as per your suggestion) it was 1500
[12:16] <fritsch> nidal: http://www.eastserve.com/opencms/opencms/My_Computer/help_support/mtu.html <- just the beginning
[12:16] <nidal> anyway this is an amazing hack man
[12:16] <fritsch> nidal: yes 1500 ist the default
[12:16] <nidal> I really appreciate it
[12:16] <fritsch> nidal: :-) no problem
[12:16] <fritsch> jujimufu: still there?
[12:16] <nidal> in fact there are many guys in my office eager to migrate to kubuntu(from windoz)
[12:16] <fritsch> jujimufu: go to /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:16] <fritsch> nidal: now they can start ;-)
[12:16] <nidal> and I was holding just becoz of this
[12:17] <fritsch> nidal: but a solution woul also be, change the mtu of the router ...
[12:17] <nidal> really man
[12:17] <nidal> router ?
[12:17] <fritsch> nidal: okay *G* just a beer again for me and fdoving
[12:17] <nidal> :)
[12:17] <fritsch> nidal: your gateway, proxy how you call it ...
[12:17] <nidal> yaaah, I will try that
[12:17] <fritsch> nidal: change it there and your clients won`t have this problem anymore
[12:18] <jujimufu> fritsch:I am installing rcconf from debs
[12:18] <fritsch> nidal: you know how to change the mtu in /etc/network/interfaces?
[12:18] <nidal> infact first I thought its the problem with the proxy, so just for this machine I had set up an alternate squid proxy
[12:18] <nidal> yaah , I am quite comfortable with these things
[12:18] <fritsch> jujimufu: just go to /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:18] <fritsch> jujimufu: we can try: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite x*
[12:18] <nidal> but not as good as you to think of issues like this :-)
[12:18] <fritsch> jujimufu: or udo dpkg -i --force-all x*
[12:19] <fritsch> nidal: this mtu stuff is a very ugly problem ... had to cope with it many times
[12:19] <thyko> fdoving: i usually have to use "make image" first for the normalize option to be available, then write the image of the normalized songs
[12:19] <jujimufu> fritsch: I still get the ""sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()" error
[12:19] <fritsch> nidal: starting 5 years ago, when i got DSL
[12:19] <thyko> i was hoping it was posible to have it all done in one step
[12:19] <nidal> thanx a lot fritsch, you know I was struggling with this for past 2-3 days
[12:19] <thyko> like with nero
[12:20] <nidal> and wasted a hell lot of problem with googling
[12:20] <nidal> this was my last resort :)
[12:20] <fritsch> jujimufu: okay, sudo su oder does just "su" work?
[12:20] <nidal> and it did click
[12:20] <fritsch> nidal: just try, if it works after the reboot *g*
[12:20] <fritsch> don`t forget to set the mtu
[12:20] <nidal> ohhh sure , I will get back to you again
[12:20] <fdoving> thyko: understand.. not sure that is possible, i don't make audio-cds often..
[12:21] <jujimufu> fritsch: yeah
[12:21] <fritsch> jujimufu: have don su?
[12:21] <jujimufu> fritsch: I just executed "su"
[12:21] <jujimufu> yah
[12:21] <fritsch> jujimufu: worked?
[12:21] <jujimufu> it worked :)
[12:21] <fritsch> jujimufu: you are now root?
[12:21] <fritsch> jujimufu: sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/x*
[12:21] <jujimufu> yes
[12:22] <jujimufu> fritsch: working :)
[12:22] <fritsch> jujimufu: after that sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/libgl*
[12:22] <jujimufu> ok, thanks :D
[12:22] <fritsch> jujimufu: this will need some time ;-)
[12:22] <jujimufu> I can see :/
[12:22] <jujimufu> meh
[12:22] <fritsch> jujimufu: working, this is REALLY not a clean solution
[12:23] <fritsch> jujimufu: this tries "forcing" the old ubuntu install files
[12:23] <jujimufu> fritsch: meh. I hope it won't tamper with any of my desktops or so
[12:23] <fritsch> jujimufu: just ask before
[12:23] <fritsch> jujimufu: i have messed up so many systems *G* with the golden trio
[12:23] <jujimufu> fritsch: I will keep that in mind :)
[12:24] <jujimufu> fritsch: I've also messed up with lots of linux
[12:24] <fritsch> jujimufu: ./configure && make && make install <- this can be really fuck
[12:24] <jujimufu> lol :D
[12:24] <jujimufu> yeah
[12:24] <jujimufu> takes hours
[12:24] <jujimufu> and then, in the end, you just see an error
[12:24] <jujimufu> meh
[12:24] <jujimufu> ok, it finished
[12:24] <jujimufu> should I restart?
[12:24] <fritsch> jujimufu: both commands?
[12:24] <jujimufu> yah
[12:24] <jujimufu> :)
[12:24] <fritsch> okay, log out and restart ...
[12:25] <fritsch> jujimufu: let`s see if you have to reinstal
[12:25] <fritsch> jujimufu: you are not from Germany, or?
[12:25] <jujimufu> fritsch: ah, no :)
[12:25] <jujimufu> fritsch: ich kann kaen deutsch
[12:25] <jujimufu> :)
[12:25] <jujimufu> I'm from greece
[12:25] <fritsch> jujimufu: it is totally boring here *g* everybody has gone to hollidays
[12:25] <jujimufu> fritsch: well, here too..
[12:25] <fritsch> jujimufu: just sitting alone in my students home
[12:26] <jujimufu> fritsch: I am sitting home and studying for my re-exams
[12:26] <fritsch> jujimufu: uuuh, i know this feeling ... failed some times, too
[12:26] <fritsch> jujimufu: what do you study?
[12:26] <jujimufu> fritsch: I am still in school
[12:26] <fritsch> jujimufu: ups :-)
[12:27] <jujimufu> fritsch: I have to sit again for maths and physics courses.
[12:27] <fritsch> reboot working?
[12:27] <jujimufu> fritsch: wait
[12:27] <fritsch> jujimufu: what do you do in math, perhaps i can help
[12:27] <jujimufu> fritsch: tons of things, from vectors to calculus (differentiation, integration, volumes of revolution etc), statistics, probabilities and stuff
[12:28] <fritsch> jujimufu: sound pretty cool :-)
[12:28] <jujimufu> I've finished studying most of those. I only have half a chapter to finish, and then I will just review everything, and give myself 2 hours to re-write the actual test I gave in June to see how I go.
[12:28] <fritsch> jujimufu: me has never todo math, done every on here at the university
[12:28] <jujimufu> fritsch: it is. Actually, I find maths quite fascinating :)
[12:28] <fritsch> jujimufu: me, too
[12:29] <jujimufu> fritsch: and physics is just a piece of cake, once you have done THAT much maths before
[12:29] <fritsch> jujimufu: but university is finished for math
[12:29] <jujimufu> heh
[12:29] <jujimufu> things just cooled down here...
[12:29] <jujimufu> what happened to everyone? :)
[12:30] <fritsch> jujimufu: does your computer work?
[12:30] <fritsch> jujimufu: rebot fine?
[12:30] <jujimufu> just a few seconds..
[12:30] <jujimufu> wait
[12:30] <jujimufu> YUSH!
[12:30] <jujimufu> thanks SOOOOO much :D :D
[12:30] <fritsch> jujimufu: it works, hehe :-)
[12:30] <jujimufu> btw, what are you studying?
[12:30] <fritsch> jujimufu: do: glxinfo |grep -i direct
[12:31] <jujimufu> fritsch: oh, man... "direct rendering: No"
[12:31] <jujimufu> ok, I will modprobe it and jsut restart X
[12:32] <fritsch> jujimufu: try
[12:32] <jujimufu> fritsch: hm...
[12:33] <jujimufu> fritsch: doesn't work :(
[12:33] <jujimufu> but wiat
[12:33] <jujimufu> this is a new xorg.conf
[12:33] <jujimufu> I can restore with the xorg.conf I had before coming here
[12:33] <fritsch> jujimufu: no just change to i810 driver
[12:33] <jujimufu> wait
[12:33] <jujimufu> it is the old one
[12:34] <jujimufu> and it is using the i810 driver
[12:34] <fritsch> okay, wait we solve this ;-)
[12:35] <fritsch> jujimufu: pastebin : LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo
[12:36] <jujimufu> huh
[12:36] <jujimufu> ?
[12:36] <jujimufu> oh, wait
[12:36] <fritsch> jujimufu: could you pastebin this
[12:38] <fritsch> jujimufu: ?
[12:38] <jujimufu> http://pastebin.ca/142223
[12:38] <jujimufu> fritsch: I just hadn'
[12:39] <jujimufu> t realised it was a command :)
[12:39] <fritsch> you have done the command with "LIBGL_DEBUG" in front?
[12:40] <jujimufu> yeah
[12:40] <fritsch> don`t think so
[12:40] <fritsch> sure?
[12:40] <fritsch> jujimufu: lsmod |grep i915 what does this say?
[12:40] <jujimufu> well, I did LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo  > Desktop/pastebin.txt so that I could copy it to my usb and transfer it to this PC to upload it
[12:41] <fritsch> jujimufu: oh what a mess *G*
[12:41] <fritsch> jujimufu: okay
[12:41] <jujimufu> fritsch: lsmod gives i915, and drm
[12:41] <fritsch> jujimufu: how many connection are behind i915
[12:41] <jujimufu> the connections is the second or last number?
[12:42] <fritsch> jujimufu: sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa libgl1-mesa-dri libglu1-mesa --reinstall
[12:42] <jujimufu> oi oi oi
[12:42] <jujimufu> I have to change my internet connection to the other PC
[12:42] <jujimufu> I have only one cable yet
[12:42] <jujimufu> meh
[12:42] <jujimufu> wait
[12:42] <fritsch> jujimufu: after that: sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/libgl1-mesa*
[12:42] <jujimufu> brb
[12:47] <jujimufu_> fritsch: back
[12:47] <jujimufu_> fritsch: I just executed the first command
[12:47] <jujimufu_> fritsch: and now the second one successfully
[12:49] <jujimufu> ok
[12:49] <jujimufu> fritsch: what now?
[12:49] <fritsch> jujimufu: glxinfo |grep -i direct
[12:50] <jujimufu> file:///home/jujimufu/Desktop/pastebin.txt
[12:50] <jujimufu> no wait
[12:50] <jujimufu> direct rendering: No
[12:50] <jujimufu> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[12:50] <jujimufu> there
[12:50] <fritsch> jujimufu: bad
[12:50] <jujimufu> maybe X needs reboot?
[12:50] <fritsch> jujimufu: wait i looko what to reinstall *g*
[12:50] <fritsch> jujimufu: try
[12:50] <jujimufu> ok
[12:50] <jujimufu> brb
[12:52] <jujimufu> fritsch: didn't work :\
[12:52] <fritsch> jujimufu: okay, what says:
[12:52] <fritsch> LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxgears
[12:52] <fritsch> glxinfo did really say nothing :-)
[12:53] <fritsch> jujimufu: cd /usr
[12:53] <fritsch> jujimufu: find . -iname *libGL*
[12:53] <fritsch> jujimufu: are there any others then in /usr/lib and in /usr/lib/xorg/modules ...
[12:53] <jujimufu> jujimufu@llamas-ass:/usr$ find .-iname *libGL*
[12:53] <jujimufu> find: .-iname: No such file or directory
[12:54] <jujimufu> find: *libGL*: No such file or directory
[12:54] <fritsch> jujimufu:  find . -iname *libGL*
[12:54] <fritsch> jujimufu: space after the "dot"
[12:54] <jujimufu> oh, ok
[12:54] <jujimufu> wait
[12:54] <jujimufu> now what do I do? it hasn't finished yet
[12:54] <Mick7> hello to all
[12:54] <jujimufu> hey Mick7
[12:54] <jujimufu> :)
[12:54] <Mick7> I've a question
[12:55] <jujimufu> shoot :D
[12:55] <fritsch> jujimufu: wating for you output
[12:55] <Mick7> if I change my motherboard asus
[12:55] <Mick7> to a gigabite
[12:55] <fritsch> jujimufu: pastbin the output, or message in private
[12:55] <Mick7> i must re-install
[12:55] <Mick7> my operating system?
[12:55] <fritsch> Mick7: you don`t have to
[12:55] <fritsch> Mick7: at least Linux will run fine
[12:56] <jujimufu> Mick7: merely recompile the kernel, and not even that is necessary.
[12:56] <fritsch> Mick7: modules are "loaded" at the startup
[12:56] <fritsch> jujimufu: no :-)
[12:56] <jujimufu> oh, ok:)
[12:56] <Mick7> oh ok
[12:56] <fritsch> Mick7: booting should just be fine
[12:56] <Mick7> and for windows it's the same thing?
[12:56] <fritsch> Mick7: ubuntu uses initrd stuff and a kernel which boots nearly everywhere
[12:56] <fritsch> Mick7: Windows LOOL
[12:56] <fritsch> Mick7: reinstall
[12:56] <Mick7> ohh
[12:57] <Mick7> 'cause i've
[12:57] <fritsch> Mick7: or have a try
[12:57] <Mick7> kubuntu 6.06
[12:57] <Mick7> and windows xp
[12:57] <fritsch> Mick7: if it`s the same chipset you can have luck
[12:57] <Mick7> mmmmmm
[12:57] <jujimufu> oh, meh
[12:57] <Mick7> no
[12:57] <Mick7> now i've via technology
[12:57] <Mick7> and on the future
[12:57] <Mick7> nvidia
[12:58] <Mick7> so, is not the same chipset
[12:59] <fritsch> Mick7: linux will boot fine
[12:59] <fritsch> Mick7: windows will not
[12:59] <fritsch> Mick7: but have a try
[12:59] <Mick7> so..I must re-install windows and let linux like now
[12:59] <Mick7> ok thanxs
[12:59] <fritsch> Mick7: ubuntu installs it`s drivers while starting up, udev and discover do a good job
[12:59] <Mick7> =)
[12:59] <fritsch> Mick7: no problem
[01:00] <fritsch> Mick7: windows will kill your grub
[01:00] <fritsch> Mick7: so after that you have to "reinstall" your boot manager
[01:00] <Mick7> ohh shit
[01:00] <fritsch> Mick7: no problem *g* just don`t overwrite your linux installation
[01:00] <Mick7> oh ok
[01:01] <Mick7> because i change processor from Athlon 64 3200+ socket 754 to Athlon 64 4200+ X2
[01:01] <fdoving> Mick7: howto reinstall grub: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phbc50/howtos/how-to_reinstall_grub
[01:01] <Mick7> oh thanxs
[01:02] <Mick7> ok see u soon
[01:02] <Mick7> bye bye
[01:02] <fdoving> Mick7: just make sure you use your own partition names/numbers and not copy the ones from the howto. :)
[01:02] <fritsch> bye
[01:02] <fdoving> bye.
[01:02] <fritsch> hehe
[01:03] <jujimufu> fritsch: ok
[01:03] <fritsch> jujimufu: working?
[01:03] <fritsch> jujimufu: glxinfo |grep -i direct
[01:03] <jujimufu> nah
[01:03] <jujimufu> still at "no"
[01:06] <eeos> fritsch hi there
[01:08] <eeos> fritsch just finished. I did what you suggested, but apparently can not init the xv video driver
[01:10] <fritsch> eeos: radeon does not work either?
[01:10] <fritsch> eeos: or noe XV support?
[01:11] <eeos> fritsch still, at stage one, using fglrx,
[01:11] <eeos> fritsch i did what u suggested first
[01:11] <eeos> fritsch settig the xv thing
[01:12] <fritsch> eeos: yes, can you test with "radeon" driver instead of "flgrx"?
[01:13] <eeos> fritsch yes , i will but i wanted to finish test 1 first
[01:13] <fritsch> eeos: okay
[01:13] <eeos> fritsch if it says cannot init xv video driver would like to understand why
[01:14] <fritsch> eeos: your fglrx says it?
[01:14] <fritsch> eeos: xine, when fglrx is loaded?
[01:15] <eeos> fritsch yes, xine
[01:15] <fritsch> eeos: you have to enbale the XV Overly in xorg.conf
[01:15] <eeos> fritsch well kaffeine using the xine engine
[01:15] <eeos> fritsch how?
[01:16] <fritsch> eeos:  Option "VideoOverlay"               "on"
[01:16] <fritsch> eeos: in your xorg.conf
[01:17] <eeos> fritsch where in the xorg.conf
[01:17] <eeos> ?
[01:17] <fritsch> eeos: under the Driver "fglrx"
[01:19] <eeos> fritsch section Device?
[01:19] <nidal> fritsch, now everything works man !!
[01:19] <nidal> I could fetch all the needed packages
[01:19] <nidal> thanx again
[01:19] <fritsch> nidal: :-) nice to have helped
[01:20] <fritsch> nidal: help your collegues, so that they all cann run kubuntu in future
[01:20] <nidal> thats what I am trying also
[01:20] <nidal> infact I was running redhat for past 5 years and when kubuntu came out i migrated myself
[01:21] <nidal> so when they all were asking me  which distro to choose , I was suggesting kubuntu
[01:21] <nidal> but this was the only issue we had
[01:21] <eeos> fritsch in Section Device of the xorg.conf
[01:22] <exceswater> hi people
[01:22] <exceswater> :D
[01:22] <fritsch> eeos: yes
[01:22] <exceswater> who can help me with an advice about installing a gamer
[01:22] <fritsch> eeos: sorry, just right busy
[01:22] <exceswater> ... a game sorry
[01:22] <eeos> fritsch ok rebooting here thanks!
[01:26] <jujimufu> exceswater: what game?
[01:26] <jujimufu> hey slaughterhouse!
[01:26] <jujimufu> wb :D
[01:26] <exceswater> fachoda
[01:26] <exceswater> i dunno how to install it
[01:27] <exceswater> jujimufu: still there ?
[01:29] <jujimufu> exceswater: yah, sorry
[01:29] <jujimufu> exceswater: wait
[01:30] <abattoir> jujimufu: that was for me?
[01:30] <jujimufu> lol yeah :D
[01:30] <jujimufu> nice nick :)
[01:30] <abattoir> jujimufu: thanks for the welcome :)
[01:32] <jujimufu> exceswater: what problems do you have installing it?
[01:33] <exceswater> i just don't know how to install
[01:33] <jujimufu> oh :)
[01:33] <exceswater> i unzipped it
[01:33] <exceswater> now i have a folder...
[01:33] <eeos> fritsch I added
[01:33] <exceswater> make doesn't make nothing :D
[01:33] <fritsch> eeos: working?
[01:33] <eeos> Option "VideoOverlay" "on"
[01:33] <eeos> in the xorg.conf
[01:33] <jujimufu> exceswater: ok, is there a "install.sh" file in the folder?
[01:33] <eeos> but it does still say can't init videao driver xv
[01:34] <eeos> why?
[01:34] <fritsch> eeos: okay, if it does not work, try changing fglrx to radeon (mmmh could crash, but try)
[01:34] <fritsch> eeos: you are still using fglrx?
[01:34] <eeos> fritsch yes
[01:34] <fritsch> eeos: also have Driver "fglrx" in xorg.conf
[01:34] <fritsch> eeos: don`t know
[01:34] <fritsch> eeos: don`tknow did not change this?
[01:34] <fritsch> eeos: please try Driver "radeon" instead
[01:34] <fritsch> eeos: and check
[01:34] <fritsch> eeos: if this is working we build ne fglrx
[01:35] <eeos> fritsch I have driver fglrx
[01:35] <fritsch> eeos: you Driver "radeon" please
[01:35] <fritsch> eeos: just for testing
[01:36] <eeos> fritsch how
[01:36] <fritsch> eeos: I said 5 times ;-)
[01:36] <fritsch> eeos: change in /etc/xorg.conf Driver "fglrx" to Driver "radeon"
[01:36] <fritsch> eeos: and restart your X
[01:36] <eeos> fritsch ok
[01:53] <sleeptyper> say, how i config kubuntu to use BT-Exact's IPv6 tunnel ?
[02:07] <tonioab49> hello how can i get help ?
[02:07] <sleeptyper> on what?
[02:07] <dhq> hey all
[02:07] <dhq> how do i connect my cell via bluetooth to use the internet
[02:07] <tonioab49> well i get a black screen just after kdm
[02:07] <tonioab49> on kubuntu dapper drake
[02:07] <sleeptyper> no idea, i installed kubuntu yesterday :)
[02:08] <sleeptyper> that ended 16 years era of windows :P
[02:08] <fdoving> sleeptyper: isn't there a setup-guide at bt exacts site?
[02:08] <sleeptyper> need to take a look...
[02:09] <fdoving> most tunnel brokers have guides and/or scripts for setup.
[02:09] <jujimufu> dhq: run the bluetooth obex client
[02:09] <sleeptyper> all my bookmarks are in the backup, which i had to do when windose  b0rked for the last time
[02:09] <dhq> jujimufu: but that is only to send files o guess
[02:10] <jujimufu> dhq: oh
[02:10] <fritsch> dhq: what phone is it?
[02:10] <sleeptyper> object exchange - used for file transfers, synchro etc...   not for ppp
[02:11] <dhq> nokia 6681
[02:11] <dhq> sleeptyper: so you mean i can use my pc internet on my cell
[02:11] <fritsch> dhq: i managed this get working with a Motorola once
[02:11] <fritsch> dhq: but have to remember
[02:11] <sleeptyper> you can,but not via OBEX
[02:12] <dhq> sleeptyper: thats what i was saying
[02:12] <sleeptyper> yes
[02:12] <fritsch> dhq: idea: connection with bluetooth tools, dialin with wvdial
[02:12] <dhq> sleeptyper: fritsch: so u know any way
[02:12] <fritsch> dhq: this could work
[02:12] <sleeptyper> virtual serial port might do the trick
[02:12] <jujimufu> !bluez-utils
[02:12] <ubotu> bluez-utils: Bluetooth tools and daemons. In component main, is optional. Version 2.24-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 189 kB, installed size 636 kB
[02:12] <jujimufu> what about this?
[02:13] <jujimufu> and then setup the mobile as a modem
[02:14] <dhq> no that will be me using the mobile as a modem i want it vice verca
[02:14] <fritsch> dhq: vice versa?
[02:14] <fritsch> dhq: go online with your handy, over your computer?
[02:14] <dhq> fritsch: yup
[02:15] <fritsch> dhq: oooh, sorry never managed this to get working
[02:15] <fritsch> dhq: mmmh never tried ;-)
[02:16] <dhq> fritsch: hmmmm :(
[02:16] <sleeptyper> it's just about making a bridge from ethernet (or anything you use for internet) to the BT virtual serial port, then getting the phone browser to use the same serial for connection
[02:16] <dhq> sleeptyper: yes i need the guide
[02:16] <sleeptyper> latter may be very complicated ;)
[02:17] <sleeptyper> does the phone support wlan?
[02:17] <dhq> sleeptyper: well on windows i did it
[02:17] <sleeptyper> how?
[02:18] <dhq> well via serial port and then used m-router
[02:18] <sleeptyper> ok
[02:18] <sleeptyper> then you just need to replicate the windows setup to kubuntu
[02:18] <sleeptyper> how, i don't know...
[02:19] <dhq> sleeptyper: same problem here
[02:19] <dhq> gotta goolgleit out
[02:19] <sleeptyper> yep
[02:23] <fdoving> dhq: check out http://gnubox.dnsalias.org/gnubox/
[02:24] <dhq> fdoving: thanx
[02:33] <liviux> hi all. does anyone know how I can read avi format whit kubuntu 6.06? Wich of driver package are needeed?
[02:34] <Healot> liviux, follow the next links
[02:34] <Healot> !mp3
[02:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:34] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[02:34] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[02:35] <DocTomoe> Another day, another problem. Does anyone in here know a way to alter the contents of an existing file (e.g. via a regex) in a bash script?
[02:35] <liviux> ok ok thanks a lot
[02:36] <fdoving> DocTomoe: yes, what is it you're trying to do?
[02:36] <Healot> the only regexep i work with is using .NET Framework
[02:36] <DocTomoe> fdoving: I am trying to automate creation of apache config files for virtual hosts.
[02:36] <DocTomoe> fdoving: I'd like to load a template and change one part of it with the variable
[02:37] <fdoving> DocTomoe: ok, i have a script for that somewhere.. you can have it for free..  hang on i'll try to find it.
[02:43] <deb> Hi *
[02:43] <Jucato> hi
[02:43] <deb> I just updated to edgy . Everything is working fine. But I don't see the printer setting options .
[02:44] <Jucato> hm.... is there a kubuntu+1 channel for Edgy questions?
[02:44] <deb> under system settings.
[02:44] <deb> Jucato: thanks :)
[02:45] <Jucato> deb: no kubuntu+1 but there is #ubuntu+1
[02:45] <Jucato> Hobbsee: can Kubuntu Edgy questions be asked in #ubuntu+1
[02:46] <fdoving> Jucato: they can, but i think it's often easier to get answers here.
[02:46] <Hobbsee> Jucato: sure, or here
[02:47] <deb> Hobbsee: I guess we can . I have another machine and I upgraded to edgy with ubuntu. In that I installed gnome-cups-manager . So, I have printer settings there
[02:47] <Hobbsee> Jucato: here is the channel for kubuntu based stuff - ubuntu+1 is edgy stuff - like, not DM specific
[02:47] <Jucato> Hobbsee: ok. I was just wondering where people like deb should go to for their Kubuntu Edgy questions :-D
[02:47] <Jucato> thanks!
[02:48] <Hobbsee> hey nice!  they fixed the bug of the printers being shown as the only thing in hte menu
[02:48] <Hobbsee> deb: find the pritner settings from printers in system settings
[02:49] <deb> Hobbsee: I can't find it there
[02:49] <fdoving> DocTomoe: sorry, i can't find the script. you can replace stuff with sed, 'man sed' awk can also be used. i remember i used the bash 'read' feature alot in my script. to input stuff directly.
[02:49] <Jucato> is the new USplash, with better image quality capabilities, implemented in Knot 1 already??
[02:49] <deb> Jucato: nope. not yet
[02:50] <Jucato> and I'm guessing that the new System Settings layout has not been included either?
[02:51] <DocTomoe> fdoving: thanks for your pointers ... that should help :)
[02:51] <deb> Jucato: I think the new system setting is implemented.
[02:51] <Hobbsee> deb: you couldnt find system settings, or you couldnt find anything marked printers?
[02:51] <deb> Jucato: because I see a lot of changes in the edgy's system setting window .
[02:51] <dungkal> deb, i lost track of your discussion. but i think that gnome-cups-manager is better than k printer manager in installing shared printers on the fly.
[02:52] <deb> dungkal: the printer option is missing .
[02:52] <grothesk> How does the default bootsplash of kubuntu dapper look like? kubuntu logo and a small window where bootmessages scroll by?
[02:52] <deb> dungkal: under system setting .
[02:52] <deb> grothesk: yes u r right
[02:53] <Healot> oh baby listen, music is power
[03:07] <grothesk> How can I tell grub to use a symlink to the kernel rather than vmlinuz-KERNELVERSION ?
[03:07] <grothesk> I'd prefer a link to vmlinuz instead.
[03:08] <Healot> vmlinuz is the symlink
[03:09] <grothesk> Hum... In my menu.lst is no connection to vmlinuz.
[03:10] <grothesk>  kernel (hd0,1)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-k7 root=/dev/hda2 vga=0x31B ro quiet splash
[03:10] <grothesk>  kernel (hd0,1)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 vga=0x31B ro quiet splash
[03:10] <Healot> the Default <<
[03:10] <Healot> ls -l /boot/vmlinuz << you;ll see
[03:10] <grothesk> I'd like the kernel update to create a vmlinuz symlink.
[03:11] <grothesk> Right now it configures the menu.lst accordingly.
[03:12] <grothesk> But my menu.lst does not exist on the kubuntu partition but somewher else so dpkg does not change it.
[03:12] <sleeptyper> eerr...
[03:12] <sleeptyper> easiest way to see free  hd space ?
[03:13] <Jucato> sleeptyper: in the command line, "df -h"
[03:13] <Jucato> In Konqueror, right-click in an empty space and select Properties. It will display the free space of the partition where the current folder is in near the bottom
[03:14] <Jucato> take note, Linux doesn't usually see "disks" the way Windows does. It sees "partitions"
[03:14] <Jucato> ... partitions and mount points...
[03:14] <eeos> fritsch are you there?
[03:14] <Jucato> sleeptyper: if you want to have a graphical represnetation of used/free disk space, you can install a program called "filelight"
[03:15] <Jucato> !info filelight
[03:15] <ubotu> filelight: show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99beta6-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 317 kB, installed size 856 kB
[03:15] <sleeptyper> hmm
[03:16] <fritsch> eeos: yes! just waited for you very long?
[03:16] <nagyv_> KDE and Firefox      I started to google after a nice viual integration of Firefox into  KDE, but couldn't fine anything. Could someone help me out, or this question is not yet solved?
[03:16] <fritsch> eeos: it did not come up with the radeon?
[03:17] <Jucato> nagyv_: you can set KDE to make GTK apps use the same widget Style and Fonts as KDE. System Settings > Appearance > GTK Style and Fonts
[03:17] <Jucato> nagyv_: then you could look for a Firefox theme that resemebles the icon theme you're using
[03:18] <eeos> fritsch the laptop froze, had to go into text mode and reconfig the xconf
[03:18] <nagyv_> Jucato: yes I have found this too, but for example I like  a lot the translucent menus, and they are not "inherited" by Firefox
[03:18] <fritsch> eeos: okay? we build flrx from source?
[03:18] <Jucato> oh, I think that's a bit more difficult to do
[03:18] <eeos> fritsch not really ok, i do not understand why the fglrx module does not take the xv option
[03:19] <fritsch> eeos: me, a bug?
[03:19] <eeos> fritsch I think so, grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[03:19] <Jucato> translucent menus are handled by the KDE styles. I don't think GTK can imitate that...
[03:19] <eeos> fritsch what do you suggest?
[03:19] <nagyv_> Jucato: thx for the info
[03:21] <fritsch> eeos: building fglrx packages from the current release of ati
[03:22] <fritsch> eeos: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204910
[03:24] <eeos> fritsch ta! I will read about it, and try to figure out
[03:26] <fritsch> eeos: okay, now i have time for you ;-)
[03:26] <eeos> fritsch ta
[03:26] <fritsch> eeos: finally repaired kjujimufus X
[03:26] <fritsch> eeos: oh man ;-)
[03:26] <fritsch> eeos: this was a big mess
[03:27] <eeos> fritsch downloading new fglrx
[03:27] <fritsch> eeos: just do everything like in the howto
[03:27] <eeos> fritsch yes, then weill call you back
[03:27] <fritsch> eeos: but with the 64 bit installer
[03:28] <fritsch> eeos: very important
[03:28] <fritsch> eeos: Make sure you blacklist fglrx in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[03:28] <fritsch> eeos: if not, he will use the daper installed one
[03:28] <eeos> fritsch blacklist ?
[03:29] <fritsch> eeos: yes, that the "default installed" one is NOT loaded
[03:29] <eeos> fritsch how do i do that?
[03:30] <fritsch> sudo nano /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[03:30] <fritsch> eeos: and play fglrx in these
[03:30] <fritsch> eeos: and place ...
[03:30] <fritsch> eeos: they say, just try
[03:30] <fritsch> eeos: you will see after the reboot *g*
[03:32] <eeos> fritsch if i black list before installing new one, then it will not work?
[03:32] <fritsch> eeos: no, just blacklist it
[03:32] <fritsch> eeos: install the new ones
[03:32] <fritsch> eeos: reboot
[03:32] <eeos> fritsch in that order :-D
[03:32] <fritsch> eeos: AFTER the new ones have been installed
[03:33] <fritsch> yes ;-)
[03:33] <fritsch> eeos: how far have you come already?
[03:33] <eeos> fritsch just finished downloading
[03:33] <fritsch> eeos: and have in mind, you have to recreate the kernel modul, when installing a new kernel ...
[03:33] <eeos> fritsch installing new kernel?
[03:33] <fritsch> eeos: means doing the module-assistant stuff again
[03:34] <fritsch> eeos: if there are security updates, or such ...
[03:34] <fritsch> eeos: you se later in the howto
[03:34] <eeos> fritsch do I need to install new kernel? not just new kernel modules?
[03:34] <fritsch> eeos: yes
[03:34] <fritsch> eeos: ;-) lol
[03:34] <fritsch> eeos: no new kernel
[03:34] <eeos> fritsch ah! :-)
[03:35] <fritsch> eeos: but IF you install a new one, you have to build fglx stuff again
[03:35] <fritsch> eeos: but also not the whole stuff, only the modules
[03:36] <eeos> fritsch ah! thanks!
[03:39] <carrera911> Hi all, has anyone succeded in setting up an Iiyama S702GT at 100 Hz?
[03:42] <fritsch> eeos: finished?
[03:44] <eeos> fritsch no still i deep water
[03:44] <eeos> fritsch it says
[03:45] <fritsch> eeos: yes? don`t paste too much
[03:45] <ninHer> hi all
[03:45] <Jucato> hi
[03:46] <fritsch> eeos: shortly afk - washing the dishes (social day)
[03:47] <eeos> fritsch dpkg: warning - unable to delete old directory `/etc/X11/Xsession.d/70fglrx_32bit_dri': Directory not empty
[03:47] <eeos> fritsch talk to you later
[03:48] <rkd> what program would you recommend to test that my webcam is working?
[03:48] <rkd> (v4l webcam)
[03:52] <eeos> brb
[03:59] <fritsch> eeos: working?
[03:59] <fritsch> eeos: just running new ati fgllrx?
[03:59] <eeos> fritsch ye, but not working
[03:59] <fritsch> eeos: same error in xine?
[03:59] <eeos> eeos still cannot init xv driver
[03:59] <fritsch> eeos: please pastebin your xorg.conf
[03:59] <eeos> fritsch still cannot init xv driver
[04:00] <exotic> fritsch: when i run CP it gives:
[04:00] <eeos> !pastebin
[04:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:00] <exotic> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[04:00] <exotic>   Major opcode:  145
[04:00] <exotic>   Minor opcode:  3
[04:00] <exotic>   Resource id:  0x0
[04:00] <exotic> Failed to open device
[04:00] <exotic> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[04:00] <fritsch> exotic: don`t paste
[04:00] <exotic>   Major opcode:  145
[04:00] <exotic>   Minor opcode:  3
[04:00] <exotic>   Resource id:  0x0
[04:00] <exotic> Failed to open device
[04:00] <Jucato> exotic: pleas use pastebin
[04:00] <Jucato> !pastebin > exotic
[04:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> dont flood
[04:00] <exotic> fritsch: sorry, :$
[04:00] <fritsch> exotic: just normal, because you don`t have a wacom graphics thing
[04:01] <Jucato> exotic: fritsch is right. it's just normal. but if you want to get rid of it, you can try this out: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7964.0
[04:01] <gan|y|med> hello
[04:01] <Jucato> hi
[04:01] <fritsch> eeos: pasteibin?
[04:01] <gan|y|med> where is the ifstate file stored in ubuntu?
[04:02] <gan|y|med> hello
[04:02] <exotic> fritsch: it always runs okay, but not now!
[04:02] <exotic> Jucato:i'll check this
[04:02] <fritsch> what is cp? and what means "not now"?
[04:02] <fritsch> cp is copy? or something else?
[04:02] <Kyral_Laptop> cp copy
[04:02] <Kyral_Laptop> man cp
[04:03] <Jucato> no, fritsch is asking what exotic meant by "CP"
[04:03] <fritsch> Kyral_Laptop: you are funny :-)
[04:03] <Kyral_Laptop> ah
[04:03] <exotic> fritsc: cp is control panel
[04:04] <exotic> fritsch: cp is control panel
[04:04] <fritsch> exotic: why do you start it from a shell?
[04:04] <Jucato> exotic: do you mean System Settings?
[04:04] <fritsch> exotic: kcontrol
[04:04] <exotic> fritsch: kcontrol, and sudo kcontrol, give me the same error msg,..
[04:04] <Jucato> exotic: use kdesu
[04:04] <fritsch> exotic: this it open?
[04:04] <Jucato> !kdesu
[04:04] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[04:05] <fritsch> exotic: you get these "errors" and nothing opens?
[04:05] <fritsch> exotic: or it works?
[04:05] <fritsch> exotic: you can get rid of your so called errors, with the link Jucato provided
[04:05] <exotic> fritsch:it opens,... but just wondering about the error
[04:06] <Jucato> exotic: also, you don't really need to launch KControl or System Settings as root. There is an "Administrator Mode" in those settings where you need to be root/administrator
[04:06] <exotic> Jucato:explain more plz
[04:07] <exotic> Jucato:the link u gave me, what exactly to uncomment in the code?
[04:07] <Jucato> exotic: when you need to do something as root in System Settings or KControl, there's an Administrator Mode button at the bottom which will let you temporarily login as root only for that particular setting
[04:07] <fritsch> exotic: this is no error ;-) I just can`t find the wacom stuff
[04:09] <Jucato> exotic: no, don't uncomment them. You need to comment them (put # at the beginning of the line).
[04:09] <Jucato> comment them out*
[04:09] <Jucato> Kyral_Laptop: just wondering, are you the same Kyral from Ubuntuforums?
[04:12] <Hobbsee> Jucato: likely
[04:12] <Jucato> ^_^
[04:12] <Jucato> lol
[04:13] <Kyral_Laptop> Jucato: yah
[04:13] <Kyral_Laptop> though I haven't logged in in over a year
[04:13] <Jucato> eheh! no wonder the name looked familiar. ^_^
[04:15] <pierre__> hello, i would like to "hide" a folder, like /home/name/.aMule/ for example, someone knows ?
[04:16] <Jucato> pierre__: just rename the folder and add a "." at the beginning
[04:16] <Kyral_Laptop> pierre__: its already hidden
[04:16] <Hobbsee> pierre__: all files and folders with "." in front of them are hidden
[04:16] <pierre__> ok thanks
[04:16] <Kyral_Laptop> though thats just a convention
[04:16] <Kyral_Laptop> nothing is required to honor it
[04:17] <tonioab49> do you know about a problem like a black screen after kdm ?
[04:18] <pierre__> what's kdm ?
[04:18] <Jucato> KDE Display Manager.
[04:18] <Jucato> !kdm
[04:18] <ubotu> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 600 kB, installed size 1468 kB
[04:19] <Jucato> it basically handles the (graphical) login
[04:20] <exotic> Jucato:commented them out, still get the same msg!
[04:21] <Jucato> exotic: you need to restart X. Save anything you need to save, then press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[04:22] <sleeptyper> crap... forecastfox jammed Firefox
[04:33] <drayen_> How do i remove a package (powernowd) without removeing the whole kubuntu-desktop package as well?
[04:34] <Jucato> drayen_: you can safely remove kubuntu-desktop. it's only a metapackages that points to the packages installed on a default Kubuntu installation
[04:34] <DocTomoe> drayen_: kubuntu_desktop is a virtual package, a wrapper for a selection of other packages. powernowd is part of that metapackage. You can safely uninstall kubuntu-desktop with no negative effects
[04:35] <Jucato> wow! DocTomoe said it more poetically...
[04:35] <drayen_> ahh okay - thankyou Jucato anf DocTomoe
[04:35] <DocTomoe> Thanks, Jucato. Send toe Publitzer Price to my email address, please ;)
[04:36] <Jucato> lol
[04:36] <DocTomoe> Is there a way to redirect requests to one url (e.g. http://google.de/*) to another url (http://www.google.com/*) with kubuntu board utilities?
[04:37] <Jucato> kubuntu board?
[04:37] <DocTomoe> (this is client-side, not server-side, so mod_rewrite won't do the trick)
[04:37] <DocTomoe> Jucato: board utility = things readily availible
[04:37] <Jucato> aaaah
[04:38] <Jucato> sorry... no idea... T_T
[04:38] <Jucato> .de = German?
[04:38] <DocTomoe> Jucato: Not really sure if "board utility" is used in the english world ... in German, it is derived from "Bordmittel", stuff that pilots have in their planes to fix stuff in emergency.
[04:39] <DocTomoe> Jucato: Yes. I want to get rid of my habit to use Google.de, because it keeps nagging me because of invalid ssl certificates (see http://www.google.de/adsense)
[04:39] <drayen_> DocTomoe: would useing hosts file work?
[04:40] <Jucato> DocTomoe: I think "built-in" captures the sense of "Bordmittel"
[04:40] <DocTomoe> drayen_: Well, I suppose not... the problem is not the servers ip adress, but the domain name I am using. Basically, I need URL rewriting on the client side. I thought of something like a proxy...
[04:40] <Jucato> hmm..
[04:40] <Jucato> !dyndns
[04:40] <DocTomoe> However, I think that squid is a little bit overkill
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dyndns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <Jucato> !ddclient
[04:41] <ubotu> ddclient: Update dynamic IP address at DynDNS.org. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.6.2-6ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 43 kB, installed size 252 kB
[04:42] <drayen_> another question - anyone know the AMD equiv of "modprobe speedstep-centrino", trying to follow http://martin.ankerl.org/2006/08/16/how-to-make-firefox-40-percent-faster/
[04:42] <Jucato> probably not what you were looking for...
[04:42] <deb> bye *
[04:42] <DocTomoe> Jucato: unfortunately, not really
[04:42] <Jucato> T_T
[04:43] <DocTomoe> ok, trying to configure squid to do stuff like that
[04:44] <v3ctor> DocTomoe: are you trying to change this in konqueror?
[04:44] <DocTomoe> v3ctor: Basically, yes. if it worked in konqueror, it'd be just fine
[04:45] <v3ctor> i know you can right click on the google search tool in konq and change the default url there
[04:45] <apmarin> Hi
[04:46] <apmarin> I have a problem with the flash player in konqueror
[04:46] <apmarin> in firefox it works ok
[04:46] <apmarin> but in konqueror the audio is retarded
[04:46] <v3ctor> right click > select search engine > highlight google > change...
[04:46] <DocTomoe> v3ctor: that's not quite what I want to achieve. I want a way that my machine fixes idiots (=my) input in browser bar
[04:46] <v3ctor> hmm
[04:47] <nagyv_> is here anyone able to run DBDesigner4?
[04:47] <Jucato> v3ctor: that only changes the search engine. But if he goes to www.google.com, he will be redirected to the local Google page
[04:47] <Jucato> apmarin: what problem exactly?
[04:47] <apmarin> when i try to see one video in youtube
[04:47] <apmarin> with konqueror
[04:47] <apmarin> the audio is retarded
[04:48] <apmarin> with firefox I haven't this problem
[04:49] <apmarin> the sound is retarder one second
[04:49] <Jucato> hmm... I'm experiencing that, too. but not so often that it becomes annoying...
[04:49] <Jucato> DocTomoe: I'm not sure if this will help. but have you tried to change your Preferences in Google?
[04:49] <UQlev> apmarin: I am surprised that you have seen any stream video under konquerror
[04:50] <Jucato> UQlev: YouTube uses Flash for videos
[04:50] <apmarin> yes
[04:50] <UQlev> Jucato: flash doesn't work for me in konq, but works for opera and firefox
[04:51] <Jucato> for me, YouTube and Google Video Flash is a trial and error thing. But other sites seem to display Flash properly
[04:52] <DocTomoe> Jucato: The problem is not at google ... I want that if *I* enter google.de (because I am on my well-used tracks), my machine should be intelligent enough to forward that request to google.com
[04:52] <Jucato> hmm...
[04:53] <Jucato> I presumed you were more used to typing google.com...
[04:54] <Jucato> I'm out of ideas, Doc. sorry...
[04:55] <v3ctor> try adding /etc/hosts entry for google.de that points to a google.com IP ?
[05:01] <heras> DocTomoe, if you change hl=de to hl=en in the URL it wont redirect anymore.
[05:03] <DocTomoe> I do not think you understood my real problem :) ... I am willingly entering google.de, but want my computer to use the google.com domain because of errors in google's SSL certificate. Got it working with squid, however. Thanks for all your input :)
[05:05] <heras> DocTomoe: Ah, sorry :) Good to hear it's fixed
[05:13] <Hawkwind> !info rdesktop breezy
[05:13] <ubotu> rdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.1-1 (breezy), package size 98 kB, installed size 388 kB
[05:14] <Jucato> ooh... that's how you specify a package for a specific release?
[05:14] <Jucato> !info rdesktop dapper
[05:14] <ubotu> rdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.1-1.1 (dapper), package size 98 kB, installed size 388 kB
[05:16] <systest> cpu freq stays low after going from batt to plugged in.  klpatop perf profile set to "performance" any suggestion what to check next?
[05:16] <nagyv_> I think I have installed Sun's JVM, but when I ask for java --version it seems that java points to the free JVM. How could I change this?
[05:17] <Jucato> nagyv_: I think you need to do some more extra steps
[05:17] <Jucato> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java and go to the "Selecting the default Java version" section
[05:18] <dr_willis> Yep.
[05:18] <dr_willis> This is a common issue. :P but at least ya figured it out.
[05:18] <dr_willis> ya use the 'update-alternative' command/.
[05:18] <nagyv_> thx
[05:18] <Jucato> I think java has its own special update-java-alternatives command
[05:19] <withaynoti> speaking of java...i've been reinstalling and can't seem to get any of the sun-java packages.  yes, i have multiverse enabled.
[05:19] <dr_willis> yea - that url covers it all.
[05:19] <withaynoti> anyone know why this might happen?
[05:20] <Jucato> withaynoti: which multiverse line have you enabled?
[05:21] <waspius> i changed my keyboard layout and managed to enable 4 out of 8 special keys..but the sound control buttond work on mplayer but not on xxms..any help ?
[05:22] <withaynoti> jucato:  i just have the default of deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse (and the deb-src)
[05:22] <Jucato> withaynoti: well, not that line
[05:23] <Jucato> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu and scroll to the "Adding Universe and Multiverse" section
[05:24] <cannonball> waspius: run mplayer -v  and see if it spits out anything useful about seeing extra buttons.
[05:24] <ulixes> hello
[05:24] <ulixes> someone
[05:24] <ulixes> can help me?
[05:24] <skreech> !xgl
[05:24] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:24] <ulixes> i've this error
[05:24] <ulixes> root@ulixes-A0704:/home/ulixes# /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open
[05:24] <ulixes> bash: /var/lib/dpkg/lock: Permission denied
[05:25] <ulixes> what to solve?
[05:25] <nagyv_> ulixes: did adept crashed?
[05:25] <ulixes> yes
[05:25] <ulixes> it does'nt
[05:25] <ulixes> download anything
[05:25] <nagyv_> ulixes: please don't click an enter after every word :)
[05:25] <dr_willis> thats not the same as crashing. :P
[05:25] <ulixes> you right excuse me
[05:25] <Jucato> (or after every other word.... ^_^)
[05:25] <Jucato> ulixes: what are you trying to do, btw?
[05:26] <ulixes> yes i know but it says (from konsole) to unlock that
[05:26] <ulixes> update the system from adept
[05:26] <Jucato> he's gone..
[05:27] <Jucato> is it just me or was he running under a root account?
[05:27] <dr_willis> he was
[05:27] <dr_willis> and its you. :P
[05:27] <Jucato> lol
[05:27] <waspius> cannonball: it does have..and they work..my special buttons also work..on xmms they dont
[05:28] <Ulixes> ..
[05:28] <Jucato> Ulixes: did Adept crash before you began having these error messages?
[05:28] <nagyv_> ulixes: a bit of good-to-know: several programs when they are executed create a lock file to secure that the same time only one instance is running.
[05:28] <Ulixes> no
[05:28] <Ulixes> just
[05:28] <Ulixes> formatted system
[05:28] <cannonball> waspius: what I was wanting you to look for was anything that indicated _what_ mplayer was finding.
[05:28] <dr_willis> its amazing - i burn a cd under windowsxp and the whole system drags to a crawl
[05:28] <Hawkwind> waspius: When you say special keys, are you referring to multimedia keys on your keyboard ?
[05:28] <dr_willis> and i catn figure out whats going on. Linux burns them fine.
[05:28] <Ulixes> nagyv you right
[05:29] <skreech> Ulixes: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:29] <waspius> Hawkwind: multimedia,mail,internet,lock ,help and search
[05:29] <Hawkwind> dr_willis: What's going on is that you're using Windows :P
[05:29] <Ulixes> in fact adept (from console) says is already in use or something like this
[05:29] <Jucato> Ulixes: you can't do apt-get or anything related to that if Adept is open
[05:29] <Hawkwind> waspius: Then look into using lineakd
[05:29] <dr_willis> Hawkwind,  yea.. yadda yadda.. :P
[05:29] <Jucato> lol
[05:29] <Ulixes> it is
[05:29] <Ulixes> closed (adept i mean)
[05:30] <Jucato> try the command skreech gave
[05:32] <larson9999> waspius, Hawkwind.  i read about a new program that's supposedly better than lineakd.  I haven't tried it yet but it was in one of the rss feeds i subscribe to.  i read the site and it does look good.  but my memory isn't good enough to remember the name.
[05:33] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Find us the answer please.  I find it hard that anything is better than lineakd since lineak takes less than 2 minutes to setup and just....works
[05:33] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i will since i have a keyboard i want to set up too. :)
[05:34] <larson9999> i'll test it out and let you know.  i'll send you the link when i find it
[05:38] <Mr_Flibble> does anyone know of a way to log in to your wallet at login time?  ie, I don't want to have to enter my user/pass at kdm login, and then again as soon as something wants to open the wallet
[05:38] <Shan_> how can I delete som suspicious looking files on an ntfs partition?
[05:39] <Jucato> Mr_Flibble: you could probably add kwalletmanager to your ~/.kde/Autostart folder so that it will run at startup. But I guess it will still ask for your wallet's password
[05:39] <dr_willis> !ntfs
[05:39] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:39] <Shan_> disable it?
[05:39] <Shan_> lol
[05:40] <waspius> Hawkwind: i installed lineax but how do i execute it?
[05:40] <dr_willis> I think theres some ntfs-write things out that are supposed to actually 'work' :)
[05:40] <h3sp4wn> If you want that - then just use xandros
[05:40] <jott> !ntfs-3g
[05:40] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[05:40] <Jucato> Shan_: those "suspicious" looking files might actually be something that XP needs...
[05:40] <Mr_Flibble> Jucato: Yeah thats the problem, first opening the wallet upon login always asks for user/pass again.  Its a small thing but so annoying.
[05:40] <Shan_> dr_willis, i'm having serious trouble bootin into my windows XP .. it gives a stop error and reboots half way thru
[05:41] <dr_willis> Shan_,  standard windows answer "reformat/reinstall' sadly,
[05:41] <larson9999> waspius, Hawkwind.  here ist he link to that app.  since i haven't tried it i'm not saying it's better but it looks to me like it is closer to qjoypad for the keyboard than lineakd and that's a bonus to me: http://sourceforge.net/search/?type_of_search=soft&words=keytouch
[05:41] <Shan_> Jucato, i dont think so .. why would there be a sqmdata00.sqm file on my C drive?
[05:41] <Hawkwind> waspius: Search google for their home page and do some reading
[05:41] <skreech> Anyone knwoa cli IM client?
[05:41] <Jucato> Shan_: well, it might be something that a Windows program needs?
[05:41] <Shan_> nah doubt it
[05:41] <Hawkwind> skreech: naim
[05:41] <trappist> skreech: bitlbee!
[05:41] <dr_willis> or use linux, backup data from the ntfs, that you wan to keep.. then  follow the drill. :(
[05:42] <dr_willis> ive never heard of .sqm
[05:42] <trappist> skreech: bitlbee is an irc-to-im gateway, so you connect to it like an irc server with your irc client (which of course is irssi) and you're in chat nirvana.
[05:42] <skreech> naim? How lame is that? :)
[05:42] <larson9999> naim?  ncurses aim?
[05:42] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Yes
[05:43] <Shan_> dr_willis, google says it could be something Live Messenger needs
[05:43] <Shan_> also.. are there sposed to be any .DAT files on my C drive?
[05:43] <Shan_> :S
[05:43] <dr_willis> Shan_,  i just googled and got    Operation Flashpoint Mission  :) for .sqm
[05:43] <trappist> Shan_: .dat doesn't tell you anything.  they're not executable, though, and not dangerous.
[05:43] <Shan_> hmm
[05:43] <Shan_> kl
[05:43] <Jucato> Mr_Flibble: I'm not sure if you could change your wallet's password to a blank. But I'm not sure if that's even advisable,specially if you have other people who might have access to your computer
[05:43] <dr_willis> and   log file for Windows Media Player
[05:44] <trappist> Shan_: otoh, this isn't really the channel to ask that kind of thing
[05:44] <Shan_> so what could be the stop error trappist  remember this is a perfectly running installation just yesterday
[05:44] <dr_willis> Shan_,  heres a url with tht Exact filename
[05:44] <Shan_> trappist, sorry .. but i think there could be an issue with grub?
[05:45] <dr_willis> msn messenger beta files.. :)   junk files.
[05:45] <Shan_> aah k
[05:45] <Shan_> also.. is there a way to overwrite my MBR from linux?
[05:45] <Ash-Fox> Grub passes booting to NTLDM, so, unless the system doesn't get to the loading bar before the winxp loading screen, no.
[05:45] <larson9999> speaking of passwords.  i give my 5 year old passwords on his computer that are simple words he can spell.  now the rules don't allow for words like fish, cat, dog, bird, etc because they are too short.  how do you change the password rules?
[05:45] <dr_willis> reinstall grub.. will rewrite the mbr
[05:45] <Jucato> Shan_: it's not a GRUB issue if you are able to get Windows to start (you see the Windows logo)
[05:45] <Shan_> aah yes right
[05:46] <dr_willis> larson9999,  i though root setting the password could break the rules.
[05:46] <dr_willis> :)
[05:46] <larson9999> dr_willis: hmmm, i'll try
[05:46] <dr_willis> or just use no password.
[05:46] <Mr_Flibble> Jucato: Yeah.  But the thing is, files like those used by the wallet live in my home directory and are protected by the filesystem.  Anyone with physical access to the machine could probably hack my wallet, but then, physical access to private data is always risky and won't really be saved my my flunky password.  I'm sure it been made this way for the best possible reasons, but I think sometimes these things are just annoying without adding
[05:46] <Mr_Flibble> ok at the source something will pop up - I was hoping for a quick fix though :)))))
[05:46] <larson9999> dr_willis: i don't want to use no password because i use it as a way to trick him into learning new words
[05:47] <larson9999> and i want to keep in the habit of using passwords
[05:47] <dr_willis> :)
[05:47] <Ash-Fox> Shame I can't remember half of the passwords on my computer
[05:47] <dr_willis> could always manually edit the /etc/shadow file. :P Hard Core!
[05:48] <Jucato> Mr_Flibble: I thought KWallet only protected passwords for stuff like logins in web pages, kmail, IM passwords, etc...
[05:48] <Ash-Fox> I don't even remember what password I use to decrypt my passwords on thunderbird, so I don't check my mail :P
[05:48] <Jucato> Mr_Flibble: but anyway, I'm not sure, but you might be able to deactivate the popup when something is trying to access the wallet
[05:49] <Mr_Flibble> Jucato: I use smb4k for smb browsing, every time I log in to kde I get smb4k asking me for my dang user/pass, which is the same as my login user/pass - its like loggin in twice....argh, such pettiness I should just hack the code or get over it (smile)
[05:49] <sorush20> hi guys I just wanted to know how to reconfigure my java so so that the sun version is used instead
[05:50] <Jucato> sorush20: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java and scroll down to the part about selecting the Java version
[05:50] <dr_willis> !java
[05:50] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:50] <dr_willis> :)
[05:50] <dr_willis> this is getting to be a FAQ ya know.
[05:51] <Jucato> yah... good thing there's ubotu...
[05:51] <Jucato> but I keep on forgetting that he's there...
[05:51] <Mr_Flibble> ha!  the whole password thing is out of control huh?  You now got to have a small bag full of passwords (kwallet) for which you need a password arrrgghhhh
[05:51] <omeow> Hello. How can I format a new hard drive I just added?
[05:51] <Jucato> Mr_Flibble: not really, you can actually configure NOT to use kwallet. but you can also configure KWallet not to ask your permission everytime
[05:52] <glj12> hmmm
[05:52] <omeow> I use KDE, but I cannot find any options or help pages in the manual regarding formatting of new hard drives.
[05:52] <glj12> i need adio help
[05:52] <sleeptyper> dr_willis, so what? today's n00bs are tomorrow's experts
[05:52] <glj12> everything audio is turned on, (system sounds, etc)
[05:52] <Ash-Fox> omeow, might want to look into qtparted
[05:52] <glj12> but i cant get any sounds from my lptop
[05:52] <glj12> help please
[05:52] <glj12> :)
[05:52] <Jucato> Mr_Flibble: open up KWallet and go to Settings > Configure Wallet
[05:52] <dr_willis> im wondering why the java install/packagte dosent run that command to set it up as the default.
[05:52] <omeow> Ash-Fox, is that a program I have to install?
[05:53] <dr_willis> or is there some way - it DOES part of the time.. but not the other times.
[05:53] <Ash-Fox> omeow, I think I got the name wrong, BRB.
[05:53] <Jucato> Mr_Flibble: then go to the Access Control tab and uncheck  "Prompt when an application accesses an open wallet"
[05:53] <dr_willis> im thinking theres an 'order you install thepackages' that may be affecting stuff.
[05:53] <Mr_Flibble> Jucato: Yeah, I know, but many apps now assume its there and working - smb4k gets all funky on you if you turn off the wallet feature
[05:54] <Mr_Flibble> Jucato: Yep, thats true - so you only have to enter the password once, and thats when the 1st app uses it
[05:54] <Jucato> still don't want to have to enter a password?
[05:54] <glj12> anyone here good with audio problems?
[05:54] <Mr_Flibble> Jucato: this is how I have things set up now.  I get one prompt for user/pass and thats it.  I really should just get over it :)
[05:54] <glj12> i get absolutely no sound what so ever
[05:54] <Ash-Fox> omeow, yep, just do 'sudo apt-get install qtparted', then run 'kdesu qtparted'
[05:55] <omeow> Ash-Fox, how do I do that? I'm new to all this.
[05:55] <glj12> ...
[05:55] <guizm000> yep tlm como esta ?
[05:55] <Jucato> Mr_Flibble: have you tried if it's possible to have an empty wallet password?
[05:55] <skreech> !sound
[05:55] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:55] <Ash-Fox> omeow, type those commands into a console, you can do it graphically but that takes far more text to explain how.
[05:55] <glj12> skreech: thanks! :)
[05:55] <Ash-Fox> K->System->Konsole .
[05:55] <glj12> i'll try that
[05:56] <Mr_Flibble> Jucato: Actually, no I have not tried that.  Maybe I can put a wrapper script around kwallet to have it autostart on login with a blank password...thats not a bad idea
[05:56] <omeow> I prefer to use a graphical program. Consoles are scarry and cryptic.
[05:56] <Ash-Fox> omeow, okay, read up on the following then:
[05:56] <Timmmm> Hi, is there a way to turn off the alt-click = move window behavouir in X? It stops alt-click's working in homeworld...
[05:56] <Ash-Fox> !adept
[05:56] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[05:56] <omeow> Can I just download the program and double click on it's installer?
[05:56] <Ash-Fox> omeow, and qtparted is a graphical application anyway.
[05:56] <Jucato> Mr_Flibble: or try setting an empty password? :-D
[05:56] <apallo19> is there a way to configure konversation to use a proxy?
[05:56] <Ash-Fox> omeow, look at the adepthowto.
[05:57] <omeow> Ok.
[05:57] <hansx> hi
[05:57] <Mr_Flibble> Jucato: You think maybe if the password is blank it won't ask?  Hmm....worth a try
[05:57] <Ash-Fox> the program you want to install is 'qtparted' once it's installed just open it from the menu.
[05:57] <Jucato> Mr_Flibble: maybe... I'm not really sure. And I can't try it out right now...
[05:59] <manu__> i have a problem with my laptop
[05:59] <manu__> :)
[05:59] <Ash-Fox> manu__, intriguing.
[06:00] <sleeptyper> any fix to that problem that my laptop doesn't shut down power when  i tell kubuntu to do so ?
[06:00] <MilhousePunkRock> manu__ Who doesn't?
[06:00] <manu__> i try to setup my graphic intel 945GM
[06:00] <manu__> my laptop is a HP Pavilion dv 1000
[06:01] <Ash-Fox> manu__, okay, and what are you doing to set it up?
[06:01] <manu__> Ash-Fox nothing i have the origonal driver
[06:01] <manu__> original
[06:01] <Ash-Fox> manu__, I don't understand the problem?
[06:02] <manu__> the size of my laptop is 14"
[06:02] <Ash-Fox> manu__, and the problem?
[06:03] <manu__> the icons are extended
[06:03] <manu__> the icons and the Desktop
[06:03] <sleeptyper> wrong resolution?
[06:03] <Ash-Fox> You mean it's not at the correct resolution? Click [K] ->System->Display
[06:03] <manu__> yes
[06:03] <manu__> my resolution is correct 1024x768
[06:04] <Ash-Fox> You should be able to set the correct size there.
[06:04] <Ash-Fox> It's one of those widescreen monitors, correct?
[06:04] <manu__> maybe i have wrong the xorg.cong?
[06:05] <manu__> Ash-Fox the resolution is the same one that I have in Windows
[06:05] <Ash-Fox> Great...
[06:05] <Ash-Fox> What do you mean by 'extended' ? Could you show us a screenshot?
[06:06] <manu__> mmm ok
[06:06] <manu__> one minut
[06:06] <manu__> i have a screenshot
[06:07] <Ash-Fox> Can we see?
[06:08] <manu__> i seend you by dcc
[06:09] <Ash-Fox> Okay, sure.
[06:10] <manu__> do you recived?
[06:10] <Ash-Fox> No.
[06:10] <manu__> mmmm
[06:11] <Ash-Fox> You need to be identified to nickserv todo any DCC sends on this IRC network.
[06:11] <manu__> i'm from Spain in Europe and my english is not very good
[06:11] <manu__> okey
[06:12] <Ash-Fox> (Might be easier to just use photobucket.com or similar service in future)
[06:12] <polo3> yes
[06:14] <Kiongku> !sp
[06:14] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-46ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 169 kB, installed size 592 kB
[06:14] <Kiongku> !es
[06:14] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:15] <polo3> ubotu gracias
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gracias - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <Ash-Fox> It seems, ubotu doesn't seem to have any mannors :(
[06:17] <Kiongku> haha
[06:17] <Kiongku> ubotu bot.. i triggered it XD
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bot.. i triggered it XD - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <Kiongku> lol
[06:17] <Kiongku> !ubuto sorry i'm a bot
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuto sorry i'm a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <Ash-Fox> IRC has evolved over the years, I remember a few years ago, you'd get a newbie, and they could only type one word per line.
[06:18] <Kiongku> lol?
[06:19] <Kiongku> one word per line.. that should be fast paced the channel
[06:19] <goop2> hey peeps
[06:20] <Kiongku> doh..?
[06:20] <sleeptyper> Ash-Fox, happens in #azureus-support all the time :P
[06:20] <Ash-Fox> I tend to tell people who do that, "This isn't MSN chat"
[06:20] <sleeptyper> :D
[06:20] <Ash-Fox> (Everyone I have ever had on MSN messenger, always types like that.
[06:21] <Kiongku> Ash-Fox: ur choice of ppl is very limited :p
[06:21] <Ash-Fox> Worst is that they'd have a whole poem, story or whatever in their nickname, that was longer than their own words when talking with me.
[06:22] <Ash-Fox> Kiongku, I don't have such people on the other instant messaging networs :P
[06:22] <waspius> i installed lineak but i also need lineakconfig...i downloaded it but when i go to compile it i get the error
[06:22] <waspius> The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found
[06:22] <waspius> *** If GTK was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
[06:22] <waspius> *** your path, or set the GTK_CONFIG environment variable to the
[06:22] <waspius> *** full path to gtk-config.
[06:22] <Kiongku> Ash-Fox: hmm
[06:23] <Ash-Fox> waspius, with apt-build?
[06:23] <goop2> I need help installing flash.. itll only take a sec.. I think
[06:23] <goop2> I have the directorys and stuff, I just need to know what to do with them
[06:23] <Kiongku> goop2: .. look for help from where u dled it :P?
[06:23] <goop2> tried that
[06:24] <Kiongku> goop2: ?.. hmm.. badly documented program
[06:24] <Ash-Fox> waspius, it seems to be working on the current version of kubuntu with apt-build just fine, I just tested it.
[06:24] <waspius> Ash-Fox: with kdebase-dev and build-essential
[06:24] <goop2> not realy.. it just dosent work as expected.. or maybe I just donr know how to use it properly :P
[06:25] <Ash-Fox> waspius, what are you doing?
[06:26] <waspius> Ash-Fox: i downloaded lineakd with apt-get but i need the config file so i can configure it..so i downloaded lineakconfig and tried to compile it but cannot
[06:26] <Kiongku> waspius: did u check if the gtk libs are  installed?
[06:26] <goop2> Kiongku: I just need to know how to put these together:
[06:26] <Ash-Fox> wad3, you downloaded with apt-get right?
[06:26] <Ash-Fox> err waspius
[06:26] <goop2> Kiongku: /home/goop2/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux
[06:26] <Kiongku> bah.. me since i patched xine to play FLAC.. the engine is very very bad pfft.. zzz.. so depressing music
[06:26] <goop2> Kiongku: ./flashplayer-installer
[06:26] <Ash-Fox> waspius, because you're not telling me what you're doing? Are you using apt-get? apt-build etc?
[06:27] <Kiongku> goop2: and whats wrong?
[06:27] <goop2> Kiongku: nothing, Im just a Linux newbie :P
[06:27] <waspius> Ash-Fox: i told u..i used apt-get for lineakd and then downloaded the config file from the net
[06:27] <Kiongku> goop2: .. well whats the prob -_-.. i have no idea whats wrong with what u did
[06:28] <Ash-Fox> waspius, what config file?
[06:28] <Kiongku> !info lineakd
[06:28] <ubotu> lineakd: Linux support for Easy Access and Internet Keyboards. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.8.3-8 (dapper), package size 82 kB, installed size 380 kB
[06:28] <goop2> Kiongku: Ive never done it before so I dont know how to open that file from the directory
[06:28] <Kiongku> !info lineakdconfig
[06:28] <ubotu> Package lineakdconfig does not exist in dapper
[06:29] <Ash-Fox> !info klineakdconfig
[06:29] <ubotu> Package klineakdconfig does not exist in dapper
[06:29] <waspius> Ash-Fox: after installing lineakd dont u need to cnfigure it???well u need the lineakdconfig file
[06:29] <Kiongku> goop2: cd /home/goop2/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux
[06:29] <Kiongku> goop2: then ./flashplayer-installer?
[06:29] <waspius> Kiongku: what should i do?
[06:29] <goop2> Kiongku: ah.. that should work.. thanks :D
[06:29] <Ash-Fox> What the heck, why do I See it here in the repository
[06:31] <glj12> rofl cakes.
[06:31] <skreech> goop2: Have you tried apt-get
[06:31] <glj12> so no one here is good with sound problems?
[06:31] <waspius> so what should i do???
[06:31] <Ash-Fox> waspius, patience is a virtue.
[06:32] <glj12> patience is apparently non-existant according to waspius
[06:32] <goop2> skreech: apt-get.... flash?
[06:32] <skreech> mozilla-flashplayer
[06:32] <glj12> idd
[06:33] <goop2> skreech: I already have the installer, Im running it now.. I never thought of that though
[06:33] <Ash-Fox> waspius, install klineakconfig from the repository.
[06:33] <Ash-Fox> You can configure your multimedia keys using that.
[06:33] <skreech> goop2: :-) Pain free
[06:33] <waspius> Ash-Fox: ok thanx
[06:34] <waspius> Ash-Fox: i cannot understand though how come i have problems in configuration
[06:34] <D4rkly> anyone know how i load up the kicker ?
[06:35] <h3sp4wn> dcop kicker kicker restart ?
[06:37] <glj12> so no one here dominates with sound problems
[06:37] <glj12> :
[06:37] <glj12> :(
[06:39] <D4rkly> is the kicker the thing that you can add to the desktop to show cpu usage etc ?? if so how do i enable it ???
[06:39] <fdoving> glj12: i can only recommend: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound
[06:40] <glj12> bah
[06:40] <glj12> been there. :(
[06:40] <fdoving> D4rkly: the kicker is the line at the bottom of your screen.
[06:40] <D4rkly> oh ok
[06:40] <glj12> ack!
[06:40] <glj12> my little speaker icon dissapeared
[06:40] <glj12> how do you get it back
[06:41] <fdoving> D4rkly: maybe you're thinking about 'ksim'? you can add that panel, right click on the existing kicker panel -> panel menu -> add panel -> ksim.
[06:41] <waspius> Ash-Fox: lineaxkconfig has gone to lost & found and if i click on it it does not work
[06:42] <D4rkly> yeah cheers mate thats the 1 :)
[06:42] <waspius> glj12: add the mixer on the panel..open it and it should come back
[06:43] <fdoving> have to go eat.. bbl.
[06:43] <glj12> mmm... ok
[06:43] <glj12> i wish i had sound
[06:43] <glj12> would be fun
[06:43] <Ash-Fox> waspius, try running it from the run command.
[06:44] <waspius> Ash-Fox: i did but i get error cannot connect to x server, communication problem with kde ..attempting to create a config file with no keyboard definitions loaded
[06:45] <D4rkly> fdoving any way i can do something like this desktop ? http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~jsatta/linux/shots/dline_gnome.png&imgrefurl=http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~jsatta/linux/sshots.html&h=768&w=1024&sz=130&hl=en&start=2&tbnid=vuYXLAl2vMkfdM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dlinux%2Bdesktop%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG
[06:45] <Ash-Fox> waspius, that shouldn't happen, especially since you're already in X apparently.
[06:46] <goop2> hmm.. Java seems to have MUCH better istall documentation than flash
[06:46] <Ash-Fox> waspius, I have no clue why that's happening, it would mean any x application would refuse to start.
[06:46] <waspius> Ash-Fox: :(
[06:47] <skreech> !xgl
[06:47] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:47] <steve_> Good morning, can I install the 32 bit version of ubunutu/kubuntu on an amd64 machine?
[06:48] <waspius> Ash-Fox: ok fixed it
[06:49] <glj12> arg
[06:49] <glj12> no sound is a pain...
[06:49] <waspius> glj12: did the icon come back?
[06:49] <glj12> steve_: Yes you can.
[06:49] <glj12> nope
[06:49] <glj12> i couldnt find it there
[06:49] <glj12> but either way, my sound wasnt working
[06:50] <glj12> so i doubt that it affected anything
[06:50] <waspius> glj12: when ever that happens to me i add the mix file in the panel..run the mix prog and then it apperas
[06:50] <glj12> ok but can yo help with just getting my sound to work period?
[06:50] <glj12> i can always get to it via alsamixer in the konsole
[06:50] <glj12> not that big of an issue
[06:51] <glj12> but i mean, not having any sound is killing me
[06:51] <glj12> and none of the sites help me
[06:56] <fdoving> D4rkly: that's gkrellm.
[06:57] <polo_> hello everybody!
[06:58] <steve_> glj12: thank you. s
[06:58] <fdoving> D4rkly: you can get it from the repositories. and get themes from http://www.muhri.net/gkrellm/
[06:58] <polo_> can anyone help on a windows partition issue?
[06:58] <glj12> np
[06:58] <mrono_> I'm having some issues with configuring the lipstik theme
[06:59] <mrono_> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!
[06:59] <glj12> sure
[06:59] <mrono_> I've already gone through and installed all the qt items that look relevent to this install
[06:59] <fdoving> mrono_: install kdelibs4-dev
[06:59] <polo_> i have it mounted on /windows/media but i can't see my documents folder...
[07:00] <mrono_> I love you
[07:00] <glj12> is anyone here good with sound issues?
[07:00] <glj12> and dont refference me to some website
[07:00] <fdoving> mrono_: and configure with --prefix=/usr, then instead of 'make install' use 'checkinstall' (it's in the checkinstall package). that way you will get a .deb package, and the package manager is aware of your installed program.
[07:01] <D4rkly> does that replace kde ?
[07:02] <fdoving> D4rkly: no, it's just the status-thing to the right in the GNOME screenshot.
[07:02] <D4rkly> cool :)
[07:03] <D4rkly> nice :)
[07:03] <Glj12> anyone here good with sound problems?
[07:03] <D4rkly> how do i embedd a konsole in the desktop too :)
[07:04] <Glj12> i've been on here so many times, and no one is ever capable of helping me with sound issues. :(
[07:04] <Mrono> How do I get the desktops to change when my mouse is on the edge of the screen
[07:05] <fdoving> Glj12: i know crimsun is the master of all sound problems. but he's probably sleeping (he rarely do, so it might be a while).
[07:06] <Glj12> ok =(
[07:09] <bjames> Hi all, does anyone here use kdevelop?  I have a really simple question I need an answer to
[07:11] <bjames> how do I add a precompiled library to my kdevelop project?  I've added the header file but don't know where to put the .a file and what settings to set
[07:12] <Leafw> is there any way to make kmail bounce an email
[07:13] <Leafw> (some unwanted email that is)
[07:13] <bjames> Leafw: is there not an inbox rule that allows gives you the choice not to download?
[07:14] <bjames> -gives*
[07:14] <bjames> does anyone here use kdevelop?
[07:15] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey abattoir!
[07:18] <abattoir> hello MilhousePunkRock :)
[07:19] <bjames> hello?!?!
[07:19] <Mrono> How do I get the desktops to change when my mouse is on the edge of the screen
[07:19] <bjames> is anyone there?
[07:19] <fritsch> could eeos` problem be solved?
[07:19] <fdoving> fritsch: eeos?
[07:19] <fdoving> bjames: yes, i don't use kdevelop,sorry.
[07:19] <fritsch> fdoving: he was here online some time ago
[07:19] <Hawkwind> bjames: There are hundreds of people here actually.  You gotta have patience and when someone can help you they well :)
[07:20] <fritsch> fdoving: had at last problems with video permissions
[07:20] <fdoving> fritsch: ah.. i was probably not here then.
[07:20] <octan> where do i change the kde splash screen at login?
[07:20] <fritsch> octan: System-Settings
[07:20] <bjames> fdoving:Hankwind: cheers
[07:20] <Hawkwind> octan: You can do it through kcontrol or systemsettings
[07:20] <fritsch> octan: hast have a "lock through"
[07:20] <octan> fritsch im there and looking but dont see it
[07:20] <fritsch> octan: a "click through" i meant
[07:20] <bjames> Hawkwind: cheers
[07:20] <fdoving> bjames: if you don't have luck here, you could try #kde or #kdevelop.
[07:20] <Leafw> bjames : I would like t obounce the email back once I have downloaded it )otherwise how do I know that I want to if the email domain is unknown to my filters?)
[07:21] <fritsch> octan: System Settings - Appearance
[07:21] <abattoir> hello Hawkwind too :)
[07:21] <fritsch> octan: oh wrong *G*
[07:21] <Leafw> bjames : I have used this feature in Mail.app (OSX) in the past, just wondering if kmail has it
[07:21] <bjames> fdoving: I tried kdevelop and of 33 users no-one replied, hence me thinking my connection was playing up
[07:21] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Hey there
[07:21] <fdoving> bjames: ah.. ok.
[07:21] <octan> fritsch heh,, where is  it :P
[07:21] <fritsch> octan: run kcontrol
[07:22] <fritsch> octan: appearance
[07:22] <fritsch> octan: startup screen
[07:22] <fritsch> octan: done?
[07:22] <fritsch> octan: ;-)
[07:22] <bjames> Leafw: I can't tell you specifically - I've only just started using Linux, but on Outlook you would just set it to scan the headers and then decide what to do
 why are thy diffrent ?
[07:23] <fritsch> octan: the have to be.
[07:23] <fritsch> octan: it would be the same program *g*
[07:23] <fritsch> octan: if not ..
[07:23] <anaskius> anyone know how i can go to finnish support
[07:24] <octan> but it basicly already is
[07:24] <anaskius> i need finnish language to kubuntu
[07:24] <abattoir> !fi
[07:24] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[07:24] <abattoir> anaskius: ^^^^
[07:24] <bjames> does anyone use kdevelop?
[07:24] <abattoir> anaskius: oops, you want to add finnish language support?
[07:25] <Leafw> anaskius : one would assume that it would be built-in to the kernel xD
[07:25] <Leafw> anaskius : but otherwise, use Adept package manager to fetch your finnish language package.
[07:25] <texjoachim> kann mir jemand bei einem catch-22 helfen?
[07:26] <anaskius> abattoir yes i need finnish languge
[07:26] <fritsch> texjoachim: with what?
[07:26] <sleeptyper> gotta say, switching from XP to Kubuntu has been my smartest move with computer software so far 8)
[07:26] <skreech> Boody DRI
[07:27] <texjoachim> sorry, with a catch-22: I need to remove a locally installed package but apt won't do it
[07:27] <Kiongku> hey guys.. u know how to burn mp3 audio with k3b?
[07:27] <fritsch> Kiongku: yes
[07:27] <texjoachim> i can post the error message
[07:27] <fritsch> Kiongku: sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3
[07:27] <texjoachim> E: Das Paket gpar2 muss reinstalliert werden, ich kann aber kein Archiv dafr finden.
[07:27] <Kiongku> doh ok
[07:27] <Kiongku> fritsch: thx
[07:27] <texjoachim> I installed the deb via dpkg -i, but this failed
[07:28] <fritsch> texjoachim: just do: sudo apt-get -f install
[07:28] <fritsch> texjoachim: and this is an english channel
[07:28] <bjames> does anyone here use kdevelop?
[07:28] <fritsch> texjoachim: Deutscher support ist hier: #kubunte-de
[07:28] <fritsch> texjoachim: sorry #kubuntu-de
[07:28] <texjoachim> I use a localised version of ubuntu and therefore my errors are german :-)
[07:29] <fritsch> texjoachim: this is okay (mir machts nix aus)
[07:29] <anaskius> found it...thanks
[07:29] <Mrono> lmao, great for tech support
[07:29] <Mrono> lol
[07:29] <fritsch> texjoachim: has sudo apt-get -f install helped?
[07:29] <texjoachim> fritsch:  no, same error message
[07:29] <fritsch> texjoachim: sudo apt-get remove gpar
[07:29] <abattoir> anaskius: i think language-pack-fi, kde-i18n-fi and language-pack-fi are the packages you need
[07:30] <fritsch> texjoachim: sudo apt-get remove gpar2
[07:30] <fritsch> texjoachim: wargh, the name
[07:30] <abattoir> anaskius: but i'm sure people at #kubuntu-fi would guide you better(if you havent asked there already)
[07:30] <texjoachim> fritsch: same error
[07:30] <fritsch> texjoachim: what is the error
[07:31] <fritsch> texjoachim: just do: sudo apt-get -f install (without a package name)
[07:32] <texjoachim> fritsch: I did just that and I get the same error as before
[07:32] <fritsch> texjoachim: if this does not help: sudo dpkg -r gpar
[07:32] <fritsch> sudo dpkg -r gpar2
[07:32] <texjoachim> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[07:32] <texjoachim> Abhngigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig
[07:32] <texjoachim> E: Das Paket gpar2 muss reinstalliert werden, ich kann aber kein Archiv dafr finden.
[07:32] <skreech> Whats BusID PCI 1:0:1
[07:32] <fritsch> texjoachim: you have done: sudo dpkg -r gpar2
[07:32] <texjoachim> yes, here is the result: dpkg - Warnung: Ignoriere den Wunsch, gpar zu entfernen; es ist nicht installiert.
[07:33] <fritsch> texjoachim: try: sudo dpkg --purge --force pgar2
[07:33] <texjoachim> and with gpar2
[07:33] <texjoachim> :
[07:33] <fritsch> texjoachim: gpar2
[07:33] <fritsch> texjoachim: sudo dpkg --purge --force pgar2
[07:33] <texjoachim> dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von gpar2 (--remove):
[07:33] <texjoachim>  Paket ist in einem sehr schlechten inkonsistenten Zustand - Sie sollten
[07:33] <texjoachim>  es erneut installieren, bevor Sie es zu entfernen versuchen.
[07:33] <fritsch> texjoachim: lol, try the purge one!
[07:33] <fritsch> texjoachim: and DON`t paste here in
[07:34] <fritsch> !pastebin > textjoachim
[07:34] <fritsch> !pastebin > texjoachim
[07:34] <dr_willis> esp when  i dont speak.. whtever that is.. :)
[07:34] <fritsch> texjoachim: worked?
[07:34] <texjoachim> tried the purge one
[07:35] <fritsch> texjoachim: dpkg --purge --force-all gpar2
[07:37] <fritsch> texjoachim: this is working?
[07:38] <texjoachim> fritsch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21302
[07:38] <Pensacola> has anyone got xgl/compiz running on kubuntu?
[07:39] <fritsch> texjoachim: got it
[07:39] <fritsch> texjoachim: mmmh try sudo apt-get -f install (again)
[07:40] <fritsch> texjoachim: this is a very old package i think?
[07:40] <fritsch> texjoachim: what is it good for?
[07:40] <Leafw> !xgl
[07:40] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:40] <Hawkwind> Pensacola: Several have.  Might join #Ubuntu-XGL and ask those guys
[07:40] <texjoachim> actually it is a very new package: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=30568&release_id=161776
[07:41] <texjoachim> it should help when sending splitted archives via mail and one of the parts comes in corrupt (for whatever reason)
[07:41] <fritsch> texjoachim: it is not correctly packaged
[07:41] <fritsch> texjoachim: okay
[07:41] <texjoachim> and how do I get it away?
[07:41] <fritsch> texjoachim: perhaps packaged for the debian version
[07:42] <texjoachim> ok
[07:42] <fritsch> texjoachim: hehe, I have tried the "hardcore ways" *g*
[07:42] <texjoachim> and how do I remove it?
[07:42] <texjoachim> hardcore ways?
[07:42] <fritsch> texjoachim: man dpkg
[07:43] <fritsch> texjoachim: dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq gpar2
[07:43] <texjoachim> did that, now where do I look? :-)
[07:43] <fritsch> texjoachim: try this
[07:43] <fritsch> texjoachim: just read, i did the same
[07:43] <fritsch> texjoachim: try the above command
[07:44] <texjoachim> tried it and it complains that it needs an actions-option
[07:44] <fritsch> texjoachim: try dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq gpar2
[07:45] <texjoachim> another error
[07:45] <fritsch> cool, which one?
[07:45] <fritsch> texjoachim: just paste
[07:45] <texjoachim> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21303
[07:46] <texjoachim> fritsch: no paste, too long
[07:46] <fritsch> texjoachim: this is the same error
[07:46] <texjoachim> I updated the message
[07:47] <fritsch> mmh, i have a look
[07:47] <ballchalk> this is compicated
[07:47] <ballchalk> how do i rip a cd?
[07:47] <ballchalk> i selected an encoder
[07:47] <fritsch> ballchalk: sudo apt-get install jack
[07:47] <ballchalk> fritsch: how ya doin
[07:47] <fritsch> ballchalk: sudo apt-get install jack
[07:47] <ballchalk> is jack a plugin for all players?
[07:48] <fritsch> ballchalk: after that: just start jack
[07:48] <Mrono> Hey, has anyone ever user evolution email?
[07:48] <ballchalk> i c
[07:48] <fritsch> ballchalk: no ajack is a standard konsole utility
[07:48] <ballchalk> ok
[07:48] <texjoachim> Mrono: I used evolution unce
[07:48] <fritsch> texjoachim: dpkg -r --force-all --force-remove-reinstreq gpar2
[07:48] <fritsch> texjoachim: hehe i don`t know *g*
[07:48] <jujimufu> fritsch: OMG
[07:48] <jujimufu> fritsch: I don't know how to thank you :D :D :D
[07:48] <Mrono>  texjoachim: ever used it with exchange
[07:48] <fritsch> jujimufu: it worked before :-)
[07:48] <jujimufu> fritsch: thank you sooooo much :) :)
[07:48] <jujimufu> fritsch: how did you do it?
[07:48] <fritsch> jujimufu: no problem
[07:49] <texjoachim> fritsch: same error
[07:49] <fritsch> jujimufu: i uninstalled your xorg fglrx ....
[07:49] <fritsch> jujimufu: why the hell did you install this
[07:49] <texjoachim> Mrono: no, never with exchange
[07:49] <fritsch> texjoachim: the problem is your "uninstall" script is broken
[07:49] <anaskius> finnish support
[07:49] <fritsch> texjoachim: the uninstall script in this package
[07:49] <texjoachim> fritsch: aargh! and what can I do now?
[07:49] <anaskius> !finnish
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about finnish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <abattoir> !fi
[07:50] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[07:50] <Mrono> texjoachim: just so you know it works, well
[07:50] <ballchalk> where does the kaudio rip files to?
[07:50] <jujimufu> terveydeksi :)
[07:50] <fritsch> texjoachim: man dpkg
[07:50] <fritsch> texjoachim: i am reading it for you at the mom
[07:52] <fritsch> texjoachim: sorry don`t know
[07:52] <fritsch> texjoachim: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure --force gpar2
[07:52] <texjoachim> hm
[07:52] <fritsch> texjoachim: last thing i have in mind ;-)
[07:53] <jujimufu> ballchalk: settings -> Configure KAudioCreator -> Encoder , choose Lame here or any other preferred encoder, and then, below, it says "Encoded File Location". The default is "~/", so this might be it, unless you've changed it.
[07:53] <fritsch> texjoachim: you could also build up the whole dpkg database, but here ask an expert
[07:53] <texjoachim> it complains that update-desktop-database is missing
[07:53] <fritsch> texjoachim: yes, but this package does not exist?
[07:53] <fritsch> texjoachim: sudo apt-get install desktop-file-utils
[07:53] <texjoachim> but I tried installing that after the gpar2 thing and it won't install because gpar2 is listed as broken
[07:53] <fritsch> texjoachim: install the desktop-file-utils
[07:54] <fritsch> texjoachim: inside there ist this script
[07:54] <jujimufu> fritsch: btw, you don't happen to have XGL and compiz install, do you?
[07:54] <skreech> Anyone have some time for a XIssue?
[07:54] <fritsch> jujimufu: no *g* aks someone other ;-)
[07:54] <jujimufu> fritsch: ok, thanks again :D :D
[07:54] <fritsch> jujimufu: hacked enough for today...
[07:54] <jujimufu> fritsch: lol yeah :D
[07:54] <texjoachim> fritsch: I try to install, but apt won't let me
[07:54] <jujimufu> skreech: what's the problem?
[07:55] <fritsch> jujimufu: and you know, never overwrite debian packages or set paths in .bahsrc, that fritsch goes wild
[07:55] <jujimufu> fritsch: ok ok :) I thinked I learned enough from today :D
[07:55] <fritsch> texjoachim: thats really bad, because this package is missing
[07:55] <fritsch> texjoachim: sudo apt-get -f install desktop-file-utils
[07:55] <texjoachim> yes and I can't install it either
[07:56] <ballchalk> how do i make jack encode using mp3?
[07:56] <fritsch> texjoachim: sudo apt-get --force-yes desktop-file-utils
[07:56] <texjoachim> can I somehow tell apt to use a local directory as a source?
[07:57] <fritsch> texjoachim: a local deb file, yes
[07:57] <texjoachim> fritsch: illegal operation
[07:57] <fritsch> texjoachim: dpkg uses this#
[07:57] <fritsch> texjoachim: this is hard ;-)
[07:57] <fritsch> texjoachim: we can try to trick
[07:57] <texjoachim> yes, but I'd like to have apt use the folder where gpar2 is as a source, perhaps if it can find this deb, it will start installing the fileutils
[07:58] <fritsch> texjoachim:sudo touch /usr/bin/update-desktop-database
[07:58] <texjoachim> fritsch: sorry for being a pain
[07:58] <fritsch> texjoachim: sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/update-desktop-database
[07:58] <fritsch> texjoachim: sudo dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq gpar2
[07:58] <texjoachim> did that
[07:58] <fritsch> texjoachim: apt uses dpkg
[07:59] <jujimufu> ballchalk: what do you mean jack encode?
[07:59] <texjoachim> it is gone
[07:59] <texjoachim> !
[07:59] <fritsch> jujimufu: told him of "jack" the console rippper
[07:59] <fritsch> jujimufu: i use it
[07:59] <texjoachim> can I now install the original update-desktop-database?
[07:59] <fritsch> texjoachim: yes
[07:59] <ballchalk> jack is encoding in ogg format
[07:59] <fritsch> texjoachim: sudo rm /usr/bin/update-desktop-database
[07:59] <jujimufu> fritsch: oh, heh
[07:59] <ballchalk> but i have an ipod that uses mp3 and how do i make jack encode using mp3 format?
[08:00] <fritsch> sudo apt-get install desktop-file-utils
[08:00] <fritsch> ballchalk: mmmh amarok can transkode them on the fly
[08:00] <fritsch> ballchalk: if you install the transkode script
[08:00] <fritsch> ballchalk: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=27512
[08:00] <fritsch> ballchalk: btw. jack can do amarok, too
[08:00] <ballchalk> oh nice
[08:01] <fritsch> jujimufu: was I on a laptop sshd before?
[08:01] <fritsch> jujimufu: you got suspend etc. already working?
[08:02] <texjoachim> fritsch: now it worked! after installing file-utils and gnome-desktop-data the gpar2 install went through Thanks a million!
[08:02] <jujimufu> fritsch: oops, yeah... How do I find out if I have them working?
[08:02] <fritsch> texjoachim: okay, ich nehme die million *G*
[08:02] <fritsch> texjoachim: hehe, have fun
[08:02] <fritsch> jujimufu: click on the Energy Symbol and try: the entries
[08:02] <fritsch> jujimufu: the battery symbol
[08:03] <WaF_WaFe> Bonsoir tous le monde
[08:04] <fritsch> bonsoir monsier
[08:04] <WaF_WaFe> oups sry
[08:04] <WaF_WaFe> i will rejoin #kubuntu-fr ^^
[08:04] <fritsch> WaF_WaFe: *G* english please, i can only say "baguette" and monsier
[08:04] <WaF_WaFe> ok lol sorry
[08:04] <WaF_WaFe> good day ++
[08:04] <fritsch> WaF_WaFe: yes, for you, too
[08:05] <skreech> jujimufu: I'm getting a Bus PCI Id Error
[08:05] <fritsch> jujimufu: what laptop modell do you have?
[08:05] <fritsch> skreech: what are you doing to get this error?
[08:05] <skreech> Starting X
[08:06] <fritsch> skreech: oh! X ist starting up, or does stop?
[08:06] <fritsch> skreech: can you pastebin the whole error?
[08:06] <jujimufu> fritsch: fujitsu-siemens, amilo m7405
[08:06] <fritsch> jujimufu: has to work fine, out of the box
[08:06] <skreech> It starts I see the XClock Then the default wallpaper along with the Mouse cusor then CLI
[08:07] <jujimufu> fritsch: I think it is. All options in KLaptop are enabled :)
[08:07] <fritsch> jujimufu: cool
[08:07] <fritsch> skreech: what is CLI?
[08:07] <fritsch> skreech: i did not get it?
[08:07] <skreech> Terminal 1 :)
[08:07] <fritsch> skreech: so it crashes?
[08:07] <fritsch> skreech: but you come very far ;-) into X
[08:08] <skreech> yes. AFAICT it's one line in the log that is causing the crash
[08:08] <fritsch> skreech: can you provide Xorg.0.log?
[08:08] <fritsch> skreech: pastebin it?
[08:10] <fritsch> jujimufu: btw. you have the updated dri packages from the compiz page running
[08:10] <skreech> !paste
[08:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:10] <fritsch> jujimufu: you would upgrade them *G* while i was sleeping
[08:10] <kdotsky> fritsch: u remember pointing me to those realtek drivers to use with ndiswrapper for my netgear usb dongle?
[08:10] <fritsch> kdotsky: yes, very far back in my mind *G*
[08:11] <fritsch> kdotsky: got it working?
[08:11] <kdotsky> fritsch: no they didn't work
[08:11] <fritsch> kdotsky: is it now working?
[08:11] <kdotsky> fritsch: o
[08:11] <apallo27> where do i get libxine-extracodecs?
[08:11] <kdotsky> fritsch: no
[08:11] <fritsch> !libxine-extracodecs
[08:11] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[08:11] <fritsch> apallo27: in multiverse
[08:11] <fritsch> kdotsky: very odd
[08:12] <apallo27> i tried that, it's not working right
[08:12] <fritsch> kdotsky: had a better luck with the build in kernel modul?
[08:12] <kdotsky> fritsch: they seemed to install fine but i still can't change the essid and a iwlist scan doesn't work
[08:12] <fritsch> apallo27: yes, it does, you have to enable universe, multiverse
[08:12] <fritsch> apallo27: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[08:12] <fritsch> kdotsky: mmh still one idea
[08:12] <fritsch> kdotsky: do you have a hardware switch?
[08:12] <fritsch> kdotsky: for you wireless?
[08:13] <kdotsky> fritsch: no it's a desktop
[08:13] <fritsch> kdotsky: okay, so no idea, sorry
[08:13] <catarro> can anyone explain me how to install and launch mozilla tar, please ?
[08:13] <fritsch> kdotsky: perhaps change the pci slot *g*
[08:13] <fritsch> catarro: why the tar file? did you download it from mozilla.org?
[08:13] <kdotsky> fritsch: k thx anyway
[08:13] <fritsch> catarro: want to test version 2.0?
[08:13] <apallo27> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[08:14] <skreech> fritsch: Does'nt seem so
[08:14] <fritsch> apallo27: enable universe and multiverse?
[08:14] <apallo27> everything is enabled
[08:14] <fritsch> apallo27: sudo apt-get update
[08:14] <fritsch> !pastebin > apallo27
[08:14] <fritsch> please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:15] <catarro> fritsch : well, i downloaded firefox 1.5.0.6
[08:15] <fritsch> catarro: don`t do this
[08:15] <gert_> s
[08:15] <catarro> why ?
[08:15] <fritsch> catarro: just do: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[08:15] <fritsch> catarro: because you break the "debian installation"
[08:15] <skreech> fritsch: The error is (WW) flgrx: No matching Device section found on instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found
[08:15] <catarro> really ?
[08:15] <catarro> good
[08:15] <catarro> thanks
[08:15] <fritsch> skreech: cool so we can fix it
[08:15] <apallo27> working on it
[08:16] <fritsch> skreech: just add in the device section, under fglrx
[08:16] <skreech> fritsch: Great :)
[08:16] <fritsch> skreech: BusID           "PCI:1:0:0"
[08:16] <skreech> 1:0:1?
[08:16] <fritsch> try PCI:1:0:0
[08:16] <fritsch> this normally works ;-)
[08:16] <apallo27> you want me to copy the url to the channel?
[08:16] <fritsch> skreech: you have: Driver "fglrx"
[08:17] <skreech> It's there
[08:17] <fritsch> skreech: and under this you do BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
[08:17] <fritsch> skreech: already is there?
[08:17] <skreech> Yup
[08:18] <apallo27> stupid mirc
[08:18] <fritsch> apallo27: you don`t need an url
[08:18] <apallo27> how does it work then?
[08:18] <fritsch> apallo27: just boot up kubuntu and do: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[08:18] <apallo27> heh
[08:18] <fritsch> apallo27: yes, i checked ;-)
[08:18] <catarro> well... i use kubuntu but what is root password ?
[08:19] <apallo27> i have firefox alreadty
[08:19] <apallo27> i'm on linux right now
[08:19] <fritsch> apallo27:  so where is the problem?
[08:19] <ballchalk> fritsch: how can i run transkode?
[08:19] <skreech> !root > catarro
[08:19] <ballchalk> i can't start it
[08:19] <fritsch> apallo27: you don`t need a tar
[08:19] <fritsch> ballchalk: enable it in the script section
[08:19] <skreech> fritsch: So no other suggestions?
[08:19] <fritsch> ballchalk: you need some tools installed: lame, faad, faac
[08:19] <fritsch> skreech: i just do a quick google
[08:20] <apallo27> i am trying to install libxine-extracodecs and it's telling be it can't find the package
[08:20] <fritsch> apallo27: as is said ten thousand times
[08:20] <ballchalk> how can i find if those tools are installed ?
[08:20] <apallo27> then someone told me to paste my sources.list into the pastebin
[08:20] <catarro> i did not express correctly : if i click on kde logo and then i select add remove programs, i have this message :
[08:20] <fritsch> apallo27: please enable multiverse
[08:20] <apallo27> i did
[08:20] <catarro> su got error
[08:20] <fritsch> apallo27: no, you did NOT
[08:20] <fritsch> apallo27: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:20] <abattoir> apallo27: make sure the distribution is 'dapper' instead of 'dapper-backports'
[08:21] <fritsch> apallo27: look for this line: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[08:21] <skreech> catarro: Try pressing Alt+Space
[08:21] <skreech> then type adept
[08:21] <fritsch> UPS, good point abattoir
[08:21] <apallo27> it's uncommented
[08:21] <apallo27> and still not working
[08:21] <fritsch> apallo27: sorry: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[08:21] <abattoir> fritsch: its the most common thing ;)
[08:21] <fritsch> apallo27: this one
[08:21] <catarro> skreech what does it do ?
[08:21] <skreech> Open adept
[08:21] <abattoir> apallo27, fritsch: the next common thing is not have 'fetched updates'
[08:21] <skreech> Which allows you to add and remove programs
[08:22] <apallo27> i did that too
[08:22] <apallo27> i see that i have no non-backports
[08:22] <abattoir> apallo27: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[08:22] <apallo27> that's the prob
[08:22] <ballchalk> fritsch: funny i installed transkode through scripts section and didn't need to download transkode separately
[08:22] <ballchalk> fritsch: thanks man
[08:22] <fritsch> ballchalk: no problem
[08:22] <abattoir> apallo27: also you are running dapper right?
[08:22] <apallo27> yep
[08:23] <skreech> catarro: What
[08:23] <skreech> s the problem you are having?
[08:23] <abattoir> apallo27: look for the line fritsch pointed out(the second one)...
[08:23] <catarro> skreech what does alt space do please ?
[08:23] <abattoir> apallo27: it should be among the first few lines
[08:23] <skreech> Oh it open katapult... normally
[08:23] <catarro> what is katapult ?
[08:23] <fritsch> skreech: what hardware do you run?
[08:23] <skreech> 9600
[08:23] <abattoir> !katapult
[08:23] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[08:24] <D4rkly> how can i convert mp3 to audio mp4 or aac ?
[08:24] <abattoir> catarro: ^^^^
[08:24] <skreech> catarro: A quick way to start applications open web sites and play songs
[08:24] <fritsch> skreech: has it ever not worked?
[08:24] <catarro> well i did not understand
[08:24] <apallo27> ok, it was because i didn't have that line in my sources.list
[08:24] <apallo27> thanks fritch
[08:24] <skreech> fritsch: Well I did an update this morning which pulled down some DRI modules which I think borked my X
[08:25] <skreech> So I decided to grab the fglrx drivers
[08:25] <skreech> Which didn't work
[08:25] <fritsch> skreech: hehe which distirubtion are you running?
[08:25] <skreech>  so I installed XGL
[08:25] <skreech> Which still didn't work :)
[08:25] <fritsch> skreech: oh, what a mess
[08:25] <skreech> Kubuntu :)
[08:25] <jujimufu> how does catapult work?
[08:25] <fritsch> skreech: i just had such a candidate this morning, about 4 hours
[08:25] <abattoir> jujimufu: what exactly do you mean?
[08:25] <skreech> jujimufu: It keeps a catalog of things that you want it to record and then you can call them up when needed
[08:25] <fritsch> skreech: sorry ;-) aks jujimufu to fix it :-)
[08:25] <jujimufu> skreech: oh, fixed it :)
[08:26] <__osh__> does the kubuntu live-cd do xgl out of the box? I think there was some gentoo-dist that did this. Anyone know? If not, does anyone know the name of the gentoo-dist?
[08:26] <jujimufu> __osh__: kororaa
[08:26] <jujimufu>  http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez
[08:26] <jujimufu> no
[08:26] <jujimufu> __osh__: http://kororaa.org/
[08:26] <__osh__> jujimufu: thankyou. =)
[08:27] <skreech> jujimufu: You can give me some assistance? :)
[08:27] <jujimufu> skreech: what exactly is the problem?
[08:28] <fritsch> jujimufu: first he installed fglrx, then he installed xgl and now nothing is working anymore ;-)
[08:28] <fritsch> i thought this is a job for you
[08:28] <jujimufu> fritsch: hehe
[08:28] <skreech> No no
[08:28] <skreech> First nothing worked
[08:28] <ballchalk> what programs can use the gstreamer plugin for encoding AAc files? amarok?
[08:28] <skreech>  then I installed fglrx then I installed xgl
[08:28] <fritsch> skreech: hehe *G* nothing worked out of the box
[08:28] <skreech> However nothign still works
[08:28] <fritsch> ballchalk: you don`t need them
[08:28] <fritsch> ballchalk: install faac and faad
[08:29] <ballchalk> done
[08:29] <ballchalk> thanks
[08:29] <fritsch> ballchalk: these one can be used by transcode to make "aac" files
[08:29] <skreech> I think I have it down to one error noe
[08:29] <skreech> now
[08:29] <fritsch> ballchalk: gstreamer is totally unsupported in amarok
[08:29] <jujimufu> skreech: what is it?
[08:29] <ballchalk> ok
[08:29] <skreech> jujimufu: The error is (WW) flgrx: No matching Device section found on instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found
[08:29] <ballchalk> gstreamer is another player?
[08:29] <ballchalk> ok
[08:29] <fritsch> skreech: what gives: lsmod |grep flgrx
[08:30] <jujimufu> skreech: you have nvidia card, right?
[08:30] <skreech> Nope
[08:30] <Drenhead> I am having lots of problems getting Flash to work with Opera or Firefox.  Any suggestions?  It freezes after 2 seconds in Opera, and in Firefox it is way out of sync.
[08:30] <fritsch> *G*
[08:30] <anaskius> finnish
[08:30] <fritsch> Drenhead: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:30] <skreech> agpart and fglrx
[08:30] <anaskius> !finnish support
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about finnish support - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <sleeptyper> ...
[08:30] <skreech> fritsch: agpart and fglrx
[08:31] <skreech> jujimufu: ATI 9600
[08:31] <sleeptyper> mik vikana?
[08:31] <Hawkwind> !fi
[08:31] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[08:31] <ballchalk> fritsch: dude do you work for kubuntu or soemthing? i wouldn't have learned so much on how to make linux my everybodys OS if i went freebsd hehehe
[08:31] <fritsch> skreech: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx --reinstall
[08:31] <fritsch> skreech: and restart X
[08:32] <skreech> fritsch: You mean startx :)
[08:32] <fritsch> skreech: you don`t use kdm?
[08:32] <skreech> fritsch: Not anymore. X won't start
[08:32] <fritsch> skreech: ah okay ;-)
[08:32] <fritsch> skreech: then startx afterwards
[08:32] <catarro> i really love linux
[08:32] <skreech> catarro: She's mine leave her alone!!
[08:34] <fritsch> skreech: working?
[08:35] <skreech> Ah the terminal is coughing erros
[08:35] <skreech> errors
[08:35] <fritsch> is it working though?
[08:35] <anaskius> amarok wont play anything..i have codecs installed but it wont work
[08:35] <fritsch> anaskius: mp3 files?
[08:35] <skreech> Client 1 rejected from local host
[08:36] <Drenhead> fritsch:  It says that I already have the latest version installed
[08:36] <anaskius> yeah
[08:36] <fritsch> anaskius: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[08:36] <fritsch> Drenhead: h? what are you?
[08:36] <skreech> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:36] <fritsch> Drenhead: we talked before?
[08:36] <anaskius> okay thanks..i heard theres also a new version
[08:36] <fritsch> skreech: kil your old X server
[08:36] <skreech> Ah!
[08:36] <fritsch> and do: /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[08:37] <fritsch> skreech: working?
[08:37] <abattoir> anaskius: 'deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/ dapper main'
[08:38] <abattoir> anaskius: add that to your /etc/apt/sources.list(w/o the quotes) and you should have the latest amarok
[08:38] <skreech> fritsch: The old ones won't die
[08:38] <fritsch> skreech: you have a 9600 Radeon
[08:38] <fritsch> skreech: this one works with open source drivers btw.
[08:38] <fritsch> skreech: why use fglrx ...
[08:38] <abattoir> anaskius: i guess you need to wait a bit for 1.4.2 though
[08:38] <waspius> i have a mounted file that i want to remove..but i get the error could not delete file...
[08:38] <fritsch> skreech: reboot, if it hangs
[08:38] <skreech> brb
[08:39] <anaskius> libxine is allready the newest version and it still keeps quiet
[08:39] <waspius> i even tried from konsole but no luck
[08:39] <fritsch> waspius: a mounted file?
[08:39] <fritsch> mom afk
[08:39] <abattoir> anaskius: make sure you restart amarok after installing libxine-extracodecs... also make sure xine-engine is chose
[08:39] <abattoir> *chosen
[08:39] <waspius> fritsch: i mounted an iso image to load a game..the game did not work..i deleted the files but i am left with the mounted file..i try to delete it but nothing
[08:41] <fritsch> waspius: umount the iso file
[08:41] <waspius> fritsch: how?
[08:41] <fdoving> waspius: umount -l file.iso
[08:41] <fritsch> waspius: umount "mounted directory"
[08:41] <skreech> Machine 2 :-)
[08:41] <anaskius> abattoir where can i find that xine engine thing
[08:42] <abattoir> anaskius: Settings->configure amarok->engine
[08:42] <Drenhead> I don't think so
[08:42] <skreech> fritsch: Still hanging on start up. I see the usplash but nothing is happening
[08:42] <fritsch> skreech: okay back to shell
[08:43] <skreech> Yup
[08:43] <skreech> Kill all  xinit?
[08:43] <waspius> fdoving: but i have deleted the file so the path does not exist anymore
[08:44] <fritsch> skreech: sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:44] <fritsch> skreech: sudo dpkg --purge xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:44] <ballchalk> fritsch: mozilla-mplayer work with firefox?
[08:44] <fritsch> skreech: sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa libglu1-mesa --reinstall
[08:44] <kdotsky> fritsch: do you think my usb wirless prob could have anything to do with the base install of dapper not being updated (no hardwire connection)?
[08:45] <ballchalk> mozilla-mplayer is a plugin for mozilla
[08:45] <fritsch> ballchalk: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[08:45] <fritsch> kdotsky: no i don`t think so
[08:45] <fritsch> kdotsky: tried another USB slot?
[08:45] <kdotsky> fritsch: yeah
[08:45] <fritsch> skreech: you are with me?
[08:45] <waspius> fritsch: unmount command not found
[08:45] <fritsch> waspius: umount
[08:45] <fritsch> waspius: whithout the "n"
[08:46] <fritsch> skreech: ?
[08:46] <waspius> fritsch: umount not found
[08:46] <fritsch> waspius: sudo umount "mounted dir"
[08:46] <skreech> Yes
[08:46] <eds01> can anyone help me get amarok to play mp3's?  im useng dapper drake and amarok 1.4.1.  when i tried to apt-get install the packages they suggested, it sits not availible, but is refered to by another packageaid that
[08:46] <anaskius> i chose aRts and amarok started to play mp3s not with xine
[08:46] <waspius> fritsch: it says not mounted:S
[08:47] <fritsch> !restrictedformats > eds01
[08:47] <skreech> !mp3
[08:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:47] <abattoir> eds01: enable the universe repository
[08:47] <abattoir> !universe
[08:47] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:47] <fritsch> waspius: do what ballchalk suggest for you
[08:47] <skreech> abattoir: multiverse actually
[08:47] <fritsch> waspius: sudo umount -l "iso file"
[08:47] <skreech> fritsch: Ok that's done
[08:47] <fritsch> skreech: have done so far?
[08:47] <kdotsky> fritsch: any clue as to what would be causing me to not be able to change the essid with iwconfig?  it seems this is the problem i've run into that other people have not
[08:47] <skreech> Si
[08:47] <fritsch> skreech: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:47] <abattoir> skreech, eds01: oops, my mistake... multiverse it is :)
[08:47] <fritsch> skreech: change fglrx to radeon
[08:48] <fritsch> kdotsky: no sorry, don`t know
[08:48] <anaskius> i did exactly the opposite to what abattoir told...sorry but it works now
[08:48] <fritsch> kdotsky: perhaps yours has a "very bad (TM)" bios version, your stick
[08:48] <skreech> Done
[08:48] <fritsch> skreech: sudo reboot
[08:48] <abattoir> anaskius: opposite to what?
[08:49] <fritsch> skreech: you are funny
[08:49] <skreech> Annnnnnd back up
[08:49] <fritsch> skreech: does it go down?
[08:49] <fritsch> skreech: x comes up?
[08:49] <skreech> Of course no one messes with sudo!!!
[08:49] <ballchalk> what's a dvd ripper already included in kubuntu?
[08:49] <fritsch> skreech: if yes, wie can optimize for speed
[08:49] <ballchalk> or do i need acid rip?
[08:49] <waspius> fritsch: it does not work...umount not found
[08:50] <abattoir> ballchalk: i dont think one comes preinstalled
[08:50] <fritsch> waspius: sudo apt-get install mount
[08:50] <skreech> k3b? :-)
[08:50] <fritsch> abattoir: acidrip is a very cool one
[08:50] <anaskius> abattoir you yold me to make sure that xine is on but i did othervise and amarok works fine
[08:50] <abattoir> ballchalk: k9copy might be useful though
[08:50] <skreech> fritsch: NO joy abounds
[08:50] <waspius> fritsch: already have it
[08:50] <anaskius> i chose the other
[08:50] <abattoir> !k9copy
[08:50] <ubotu> A good alternative to running DVDShrink with wine is k9copy; for Dapper it's available in Universe, and for Breezy it's available at this repository: deb http://repos.knio.it/ breezy main contrib non-free
[08:50] <fritsch> waspius: you have to find the command "umount"
[08:50] <fritsch> waspius: if you don`t get it to work *g* just reboot
[08:50] <abattoir> anaskius: that's weird, what other engine do you have?
[08:51] <fritsch> skreech: nothing works?
[08:51] <waspius> fritsch: ok thanx
[08:51] <skreech> Comes up runs the usplash till the X section
[08:51] <anaskius> abattoir aRts
[08:51] <fritsch> skreech: you login, i think, yes?
[08:51] <abattoir> anaskius: aah ok :)
[08:51] <fritsch> skreech: please add another user
[08:51] <fritsch> skreech: sudo adduser test
[08:51] <fritsch> skreech: sudo adduser test audio
[08:52] <fritsch> skreech: sudo adduser test video
[08:52] <anaskius> but its weird how it wont work with xine
[08:52] <skreech> Still looking at the usplash. No X No login manager
[08:52] <fritsch> and retry with the test user
[08:52] <JohnFlux> skreech: k3b only supports dvd ripping in the svn development version
[08:52] <fritsch> skreech: AH thats the problem
[08:52] <fritsch> skreech: back to shell
[08:52] <JohnFlux> skreech: there's no release yet
[08:52] <skreech> JohnFlux: I know :) I was ramping i wouldn't expect it rip DVDs in a default Ubuntu install though
[08:52] <fritsch> skreech: look what the error is
[08:52] <anaskius> i did all i can...but who cares as long as its working with aRts
[08:52] <fritsch> skreech: perhaps disable the splash
[08:53] <skreech> fritsch: Oh did you read the walktrhough at tinyurl.com?
[08:53] <JohnFlux> skreech: it will the release-after-next
[08:53] <JohnFlux> *in
[08:53] <skreech> I did some stuff with kdm/kdmrc
[08:53] <fritsch> skreech: yes, i think so *g* for getting XGL to work
[08:53] <fritsch> skreech: and this is actually the problem
[08:54] <fritsch> skreech: diagnozing from here, very hard ...
[08:54] <skreech> fritsch: Posibly I added a line to boot xgl
[08:54] <fritsch> skreech: yes, i think so
[08:54] <fritsch> skreech: do this line away
[08:54] <skreech> fritsch: I know :) look at the walkthrough for ATI in ! XGl for kubuntu
[08:54] <fritsch> skreech: just try to "repair" it yourself
[08:54] <fritsch> skreech: no
[08:54] <skreech> Oh i kept a backup
[08:54] <fritsch> skreech: i don`t want xgl
[08:54] <skreech> I'm not crazy
[08:54] <fritsch> skreech recover your backup
[08:55] <fritsch> skreech: but keep in mind, fglrx is now uninstalled, because the radeon OSS driver is good enough for it
[08:55] <fritsch> skreech: don t support proprietary drivers, if there is an alternative
[08:55] <adm> Does anyone know why my network connection won't work when I start kubuntu? It says that it's enabled, but I have to disable and enable it again to get it working...any solution?
[08:56] <fritsch> adm: how do you disable it? and how reenable?
[08:56] <skreech> fritsch: last time I had looked there was no open drivers for 9600
[08:56] <fritsch> skreech: but there are ...
[08:56] <fritsch> skreech: even the X600 are working with this radeon and the r300 project
[08:56] <adm> fritsch: in system settings ---> Network settings
[08:56] <fritsch> adm: mmh can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[08:57] <adm> ok, sec
[08:57] <fdoving> fritsch: an mtu issue again? :)
[08:57] <skreech> Ok rebooting
[08:57] <fritsch> fdoving: warhg *g* this was hard
[08:57] <fritsch> fdoving: hehe, just a shot to the blue
[08:57] <fritsch> fdoving: but very cool, now a whole office will use kubuntu
[08:57] <fdoving> fritsch: what's hard? (i didn't read the backlog)
[08:57] <fritsch> fdoving: the mtu issue
[08:58] <fritsch> fdoving: first saw it 5 years agao
[08:58] <fritsch> fdoving: and still the routers are not configured correctly
[08:58] <skreech> so dri would require teh r300 project?
[08:58] <adm> iface lo inet loopback
[08:58] <adm> auto eth0
[08:58] <adm> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[08:58] <adm> auto eth1
[08:58] <adm> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[08:58] <adm> auto eth2
[08:58] <fritsch> skreech: every thin is installed for you
[08:58] <adm> iface eth2 inet dhcp
[08:58] <adm> auto ath0
[08:58] <fritsch> don`t paste!
[08:58] <adm> iface ath0 inet dhcp
[08:58] <adm> auto wlan0
[08:58] <fritsch> i sade pastebin
[08:58] <adm> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[08:58] <skreech> !paste
[08:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:58] <fritsch> adm: stop
[08:58] <adm> fritsch: oke :D
[08:59] <fdoving> well.. to late to kick now :)
[08:59] <adm> sry
[08:59] <fritsch> adm: which one from these is acually yyour interface? which is working?
[08:59] <fdoving> +o
[08:59] <skreech> Dang. The Xclock came up :-(
[08:59] <exotic> fritsch:sorry bothering again,.. but i re-installed ubuntu, coz it failed to load after i edit xorg!
[08:59] <fritsch> exotic: oh man :-(
[08:59] <exotic> fritsch:anyway, i'll leave this, but what i need to know now, i enabled unievrse and multiuniverse packages,
[08:59] <fritsch> exotic: what`s the problem now?
[09:00] <fritsch> exotic: yes
[09:00] <exotic> fritsch: yet when i type: sudo apt-get libxine-extracodecs
[09:00] <fritsch> exotic: you cannot find it?
[09:00] <fritsch> exotic: ;-)
[09:00] <exotic> fritsch: i get: E: Invalid operation libxine-extracodecs
[09:00] <abattoir> exotic: 'sudo apt-get install...'
[09:00] <fritsch> exotic: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[09:00] <skreech> exotic: It's sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[09:00] <abattoir> you missed the 'install' bit
[09:00] <fritsch> abattoir: thx
[09:01] <sdlnxgk> anyone having problems with xmms  type players after updates???
[09:01] <exotic> fritsch: aha, thanx...
[09:01] <abattoir> fritsch: why are you thanking me? :P
[09:01] <exotic> skreech: thanx
[09:01] <fritsch> abattoir: for being faster *g*
[09:01] <exotic> abattoir:thanx
[09:01] <abattoir> fritsch: hehe
[09:01] <skreech> abattoir: His fingers are smoking from typing so much :) he needed the 3 second break
[09:01] <abattoir> exotic: np ;)
[09:01] <skreech> exotic: anytime
[09:01] <abattoir> heh...
[09:02] <sdlnxgk> having a prodlem with media  players :(
[09:02] <skreech> !xgl
[09:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:02] <exotic> frittsch: i'll try to run control panel now, and see what i'll get
[09:02] <abattoir> sdlnxgk: what's the problem?
[09:02] <sdlnxgk> actually all media players freeze after  doing udpates
[09:02] <fritsch> exotic: what do you want to do?
[09:02] <exotic> frittsch: i'll never touch xorg again! lol, i had to re-install! it really failed to load! lol
[09:02] <abattoir> sdlnxgk: which ones? kaffeine, amarok?
[09:02] <fritsch> skreech: working?
[09:02] <skreech> exotic: As long as you can type you can fix it :)
[09:03] <kdotsky> if i get a wireless bridge to connect my desktop to a wireless network, are there any considerations about its compatibility with ubuntu?
[09:03] <exotic> skreech:lol
[09:03] <sdlnxgk> kaffeine plays just fine but xmms and amarok freeze
[09:03] <fritsch> kdotsky: madwifi is very well supported
[09:03] <fritsch> sdlnxgk: they just hang?
[09:03] <abattoir> sdlnxgk: running the latest version of amarok?
[09:04] <kdotsky> fritsch: what does that mean
[09:04] <sdlnxgk> fritsch yes they just hang then I have to kill the process
[09:04] <fritsch> kdotsky: google over madwifi
[09:04] <sdlnxgk> abattoir i'm sure it's the latest because I keep up with my updates
[09:04] <fritsch> sdlnxgk: try upgrade to latest version, as suggested
[09:04] <fritsch> sdlnxgk: dpkg -l |grep amarok
[09:04] <sdlnxgk> fritsch will try that now
[09:04] <fritsch> sdlnxgk: what does it say?
[09:04] <abattoir> sdlnxgk: ah ok...(1.4.1 is latest fyi)...
[09:05] <abattoir> sdlnxgk: you can try loading amarok from a terminal... and look for potentially helpful messages
[09:05] <abattoir> *potentially helpful error messages
[09:05] <kdotsky> fritsch: so you're suggesting getting s wireless card with an atheros chipset?
[09:05] <sdlnxgk> fritsch says 1.3.9-0ubuntu4
[09:05] <fritsch> kdotsky: yes, i have heard very good from this
[09:05] <fritsch> sdlnxgk: so try 1.4.1
[09:06] <kdotsky> fritsch: ok, was confused how it related to a wirless bridge
[09:06] <fritsch> abattoir: can help you
[09:06] <sdlnxgk> shouldn't it  update automatic??
[09:06] <abattoir> sdlnxgk: http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/ has the latest packages
[09:06] <fritsch> kdotsky: don`t use a bridge if you can connect directly
[09:06] <sdlnxgk> but will  try to upgrade it now
[09:06] <abattoir> sdlnxgk: these packages are maintained in a separate repository
[09:06] <fritsch> sdlnxgk: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[09:07] <abattoir> sdlnxgk: add 'deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/ dapper main' to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:07] <abattoir> sdlnxgk: and you should always have the latest stable packages...
[09:07] <sdlnxgk> abattoir sweet going to add it now :D
[09:08] <fritsch> skreech: wher is you problem gone?
[09:08] <abattoir> sdlnxgk: also, FYI, there is kde-latest and koffice-latest, which makes sure you always have the latest of those packages :)
[09:08] <skreech> fritsch: I'm looking at the kdm logs to see if they say anything suspicious
[09:09] <fritsch> skreech: look at your kdm config, that it really starts only the normal xserver
[09:09] <fritsch> skreech: perhaps uninstall xserver-xgl
[09:09] <sdlnxgk> abattoir thanks for  the heads up
[09:09] <abattoir> sdlnxgk: you're welcome :)
[09:10] <Polarbeer> is it possible to install flash player 9 for firefox or konqueror?
[09:10] <fritsch> Polarbeer: it is not out for lnux
[09:10] <abattoir> Polarbeer: under linux... no ;)
[09:10] <skreech> Oh :*( I figured since I'd come this far I might as well get it to work
[09:10] <Polarbeer> :(
[09:10] <abattoir> Polarbeer: you can have a setup for it under wine though
[09:10] <fritsch> abattoir: for sure?
[09:10] <abattoir> Polarbeer: werent you the one whom i gave a link yesterday?
[09:11] <fritsch> abattoir: you could also run it in vmare ;-)
[09:11] <Polarbeer> abattoir: no
[09:11] <Polarbeer> you helped me with mp3 cd burning, i think
[09:11] <exotic> fritsch: i enabled layout switching ( both shifts ), yet when i press them, nothing change,.. everytime i move the cursor to change it at the pannel!, any idea why?
[09:11] <abattoir> Polarbeer: aah ok :)
[09:12] <flucker> Hi. anybody know how to do settings for compiz-plugin "scale" in KDE? I can't get an active corner to work?
[09:12] <abattoir> fritsch, Polarbeer: i'll search for the link again
[09:12] <Polarbeer> abattoir: thanks!
[09:12] <fritsch> exotic: sorry, no idea
[09:12] <fritsch> abattoir: i installed IE 6.0 in wine
[09:12] <fritsch> abattoir: so flash will work, too
[09:12] <fritsch> abattoir: but that is kind of "compicated"
[09:12] <fritsch> abattoir: i don`t use flash, as long they don`t give me a "cool and working" version
[09:13] <abattoir> Polarbeer: http://www.warrenguy.com/docs/ubuntu-linux/installing-internet-explorer-6.html
[09:14] <abattoir> fritsch: i've heard of ppl who have gotten it to work in firefox and opera... through wine
[09:14] <fritsch> abattoir: okay
[09:14] <abattoir> fritsch: i havent installed flash too... dont seem to be missing much :P
[09:15] <Polarbeer> but isn't wine slow to use?
[09:15] <skreech> Yeah it only starts the right one still not doing any thing though. The KDM logs act like the X logs where the first one is the latest one?
[09:15] <fritsch> Polarbeer: slower than native
[09:15] <Polarbeer> hm...
[09:15] <fritsch> skreech: you messed it up *g* - hehe have fun
[09:15] <fritsch> skreech: "No System or Disk error" ;-) hh
[09:15] <skreech> Yeah I am so far
[09:15] <abattoir> Polarbeer: tbh, i've run Photoshop 7 under wine, and didnt notice it to be slower than the rest of my system...
[09:15] <skreech> No had that last week
[09:16] <fritsch> skreech: you want the hardcore way?
[09:16] <fritsch> skreech: sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/x*
[09:17] <Polarbeer> abattoir: ok. now it's time to give it a try. thanks again for your help!
[09:17] <abattoir> Polarbeer: no problem :)
[09:17] <fritsch> skreech: after that: sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/libg*
[09:17] <fritsch> skreech: and retry
[09:18] <skreech> fritsch: I'm still getting the PCI:1:0:1
[09:18] <skreech> error
[09:18] <fritsch> skreech: do what i said above
[09:19] <fritsch> skreech: and at 3rd: do sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/kdm*
[09:19] <pielgrzym> hi :)
[09:19] <pielgrzym> could anyone be so kind to tell me where in kubuntu are the login screen setup files located?
[09:19] <fritsch> pielgrzym: dpkg -L kdm
[09:19] <fritsch> pielgrzym: and have a look ;-)
[09:20] <pielgrzym> I've installed ati drivers and my login screen has too big resolution (I erased this resolution from xorg.conf and I suppose it's stored somwhere else)
[09:20] <pielgrzym> thanks! :)
[09:20] <fritsch> pielgrzym: no it is just in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:20] <fritsch> pielgrzym: look at the 24 bit Section
[09:20] <fritsch> pielgrzym: or just pastebin your xorg.conf
[09:21] <pielgrzym> ok
[09:21] <fritsch> !pastebin > pielgrzym
[09:22] <pielgrzym> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21313
[09:22] <pielgrzym> :)
[09:23] <fritsch> pielgrzym: mom
[09:23] <pielgrzym> it opens in 1600x1200
[09:23] <fritsch> pielgrzym: defenetely not
[09:23] <pielgrzym> and should in 1280x1024 :)
[09:23] <ballchalk> how do i run kde-guidance?
[09:23] <abattoir> ballchalk: systemsettings
[09:23] <skreech> fritsch: Oh on the other hand I can pastebin my Xorg.0.log now :)
[09:24] <fritsch> pielgrzym: restart your X session
[09:24] <fritsch> pielgrzym: there is only 1280 in, so it cannot have 1600
[09:24] <ballchalk> abattoir: thanks man
[09:24] <fritsch> pielgrzym: not just logging out Kill your Xserver with: CTRL ALT backsacpe
[09:24] <pielgrzym> fritsch: before I installed the ati driver the login screen was 1600x1200 displayed under 1280 and I could kind of scroll it in all directions
[09:24] <fritsch> pielgrzym: kdm should give it back
[09:24] <fritsch> pielgrzym: okay
[09:24] <pielgrzym> fritsch: I did :) I even restarted pc a couple of times :)
[09:24] <abattoir> ballchalk: np :)
[09:25] <fritsch> pielgrzym: press ctrl alt backsacpe and look in what resolution it comes up
[09:25] <fritsch> skreech: give it to me ;-)
[09:26] <pielgrzym> ops
[09:26] <pielgrzym> I killed my sesion by mistake ;)
[09:26] <fritsch> pielgrzym: working?
[09:26] <pielgrzym> yup, but in 1600...
[09:26] <fritsch> pielgrzym: no, not possible
[09:26] <pielgrzym> and the bottom of the screen is black
[09:26] <fritsch> pielgrzym: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:27] <pielgrzym> like 1/4 of the screen
[09:27] <pielgrzym> ok, I'll paste again
[09:27] <fritsch> pielgrzym: /etc/X11/xorg.conf there is no 1600 line inside
[09:27] <skreech> !paste
[09:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:27] <pielgrzym> I know
[09:27] <pielgrzym> thats why I'm puzzled
[09:28] <fritsch> pielgrzym: paste bin /var/log/Xorg.0.log too
[09:28] <pielgrzym> I have even more trouble
[09:28] <pielgrzym> ok
[09:28] <fritsch> pielgrzym: just solve the first trouble :-)
[09:28] <skreech> fritsch:
[09:28] <fritsch> pielgrzym: pastebin the two things (again)
[09:28] <fritsch> skreech:
[09:28] <pielgrzym> ok
[09:28] <skreech> fritsch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21314
[09:28] <fritsch> skreech: okay, i ll have a look
[09:29] <skreech> Accidently pasted the log to the IRC chan :)
[09:29] <skreech> Thank goodness for paranoid IRC clients
[09:29] <fritsch> skreech: looking all fine
[09:30] <fritsch> skreech: sudo apt-get remove xserver-xgl
[09:30] <skreech> So want the KDM log?
[09:30] <fritsch> skreech: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg --reinstall
[09:30] <fritsch> skreech: do these two things and retry
[09:30] <fritsch> skreech: you made a symlink to the wrong X server somewhere
[09:30] <fritsch> skreech: i always got these errors, when setting up XGL wrong
[09:31] <pielgrzym> strange
[09:31] <fritsch> pielgrzym: yes?
[09:31] <ballchalk> brb
[09:31] <pielgrzym> the pastebin redirects me to input page
[09:31] <pielgrzym> all the time
[09:31] <skreech> Done
[09:31] <pielgrzym> maybe the log is too long?
[09:31] <fritsch> skreech: retry
[09:32] <fritsch> skreech: no? don`t think so
[09:32] <fritsch> pielgrzym: url?
[09:32] <skreech> pielgrzym: Measly thousand line
[09:32] <fritsch> pielgrzym: mmmh try another pastebin page, the nl one could be down ...
[09:32] <fritsch> pielgrzym: ill wait
[09:32] <christianp> hi all
[09:32] <pielgrzym> here's the xorg
[09:32] <pielgrzym> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21315
[09:33] <fritsch> pielgrzym: got it
[09:33] <fritsch> pielgrzym: man
[09:33] <fritsch> pielgrzym: you have 2 device sections *g*
[09:33] <christianp> how can i play divx with kaffeine? I download and install w32codec but it displays a black screen
[09:33] <fritsch> pielgrzym: one time ATI and one time fglrx
[09:33] <fritsch> pielgrzym: put out on of your config file
[09:33] <skreech> :-D
[09:33] <fritsch> pielgrzym: i ll edit it online
[09:34] <skreech> christianp: did you install Libxine-extracodecs ?
[09:34] <pielgrzym> !!
[09:34] <pielgrzym> you're right :)
[09:34] <pielgrzym> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21316
[09:34] <pielgrzym> log no. 1 :)
[09:34] <pielgrzym> (ca. 1k lines)
[09:34] <fritsch> pielgrzym: have found your error
[09:35] <fritsch> pielgrzym: please disable one of the two Device Sections
[09:35] <edik>      ?
[09:35] <pielgrzym> the 'ati' one?
[09:35] <skreech> !ru
[09:35] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[09:35] <fritsch> edik: did not get it *G* but could read it
[09:35] <abattoir> !ru
[09:35] <fritsch> edik: UTF-8 rocks
[09:35] <skreech> abattoir: I win :)
[09:35] <fritsch> skreech: working?
[09:35] <skreech> Nope :)
[09:36] <fritsch> same error?
[09:36] <fritsch> sudo dpkg --purge xserver-xgl
[09:36] <abattoir> skreech: heh...
[09:36] <skreech> Yep
[09:36] <christianp> skreech: i can't find it in my repositories :(
[09:36] <christianp> can you give me the right one?
[09:36] <skreech> christianp: you need to enable Multiverse
[09:36] <fritsch> skreech: you want to give me a shell?
[09:36] <skreech> !multiverse > christianp
[09:36] <fritsch> skreech: don`t have fun in guessing
[09:36] <skreech> fritsch: I'm double natted
[09:37] <fritsch> skreech: no problem
[09:37] <fritsch> skreech: where a nat is, there is iptabels
[09:37] <skreech> Oh?
[09:37] <fritsch> skreech: ;-)
[09:37] <pielgrzym> fritsch: you mean the lines 118-129?
[09:37] <pc> hi
[09:37] <skreech> fritsch: how does iptables circumvent two hardware nat?
[09:37] <fritsch> pielgrzym: yes
[09:37] <fritsch> skreech: oh hardware nats
[09:37] <fritsch> skreech: this IS a problem
[09:38] <skreech> Yes. Twice
[09:38] <fritsch> skreech: sorry, you have to cope alone *g*
[09:38] <fritsch> skreech: redo your changes
[09:38] <skreech> It's ok a friend is coming over to debug
[09:38] <fritsch> skreech: btw. and keep your fingers OFF from fglrx
[09:38] <skreech> Undo my updates :-)
[09:38] <fritsch> skreech: radeon OSS ist working just find
[09:38] <pielgrzym> fritsch: I'll erase the 'ati' one :) and I'll see what happens :) thanks for help! :)
[09:38] <skreech> Yeah i dislike software patent laws :-(
[09:38] <christianp> skreech: how can i enable multiverse with adept (with synaptic it was easy, but with adept i don't know how) ;)
[09:38] <fritsch> pielgrzym: just commeent it out with #
[09:39] <fdoving> skreech: it owns hardware-routers in functionality, customizability,and features.
[09:39] <sdlnxgk> !xmms
[09:39] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:39] <skreech> christianp: Open adept and look under adept _> manage repositores
[09:39] <pielgrzym> fritsch: maybe I should copy the busID to the fglrx device section?
[09:39] <fritsch> pielgrzym: yes
[09:39] <abattoir> skreech: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu should help you
[09:39] <fritsch> pielgrzym: you could also try ati first
[09:39] <abattoir> skreech: ooops, christianp
[09:39] <fritsch> pielgrzym: and comment fglrx out
[09:39] <skreech> fdoving: Sorry?
[09:39] <pielgrzym> ok
[09:39] <fritsch> pielgrzym: have fun
[09:40] <abattoir> christianp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:40] <pielgrzym> what happens if it won't load screen? will I be albe to get to the console?
[09:40] <fritsch> pielgrzym: yes, if you are very unlucky
[09:40] <fritsch> pielgrzym: youll have to boot the live cd and chroot in
[09:40] <skreech> pielgrzym: Alt+Ctrl+ F[1-6] 
[09:40] <fritsch> pielgrzym: but comment out the ati one first
[09:40] <pielgrzym> fritsch: ok, so I'll play around with it :)
[09:40] <fdoving> skreech: sorry wrong window :] 
[09:41] <pielgrzym> ok
[09:41] <pielgrzym> thanks :) brb ;)
[09:41] <skreech> fdoving: Sounds fascinating though. What's that about?
[09:41] <skreech> pielgrzym: Oh You may want to know irssi
[09:41] <pielgrzym> irssi?
[09:41] <zapper> hi
[09:41] <skreech> pielgrzym: You have Gui working now?
[09:42] <fdoving> skreech: how linux+iptables owns most cheap store-bought routers/nats.
[09:42] <pielgrzym> yes
[09:42] <pielgrzym> kde
[09:42] <zapper> can anybody help me with an acpi problem on my laptop?
[09:42] <skreech> fdoving: Oh yes. Which are actaully most likely linux plus iptables in any case
[09:42] <pielgrzym> skreech: yup, kde running :)
[09:42] <zapper> i have a tosshiba satellite m40-285
[09:42] <fritsch> pielgrzym: working?
[09:42] <skreech> pielgrzym: Press Alt+ctrl+F1 then Alt+Ctrl+F7
[09:43] <fritsch> me waits till the job is complete ...
[09:43] <skreech> Let me know when you get back :)
[09:43] <pielgrzym> fritsch: haven't rebooted yet :)
[09:43] <pielgrzym> ok
[09:43] <fritsch> pielgrzym: CTRL ALT Backspace will do *g*
[09:43] <christianp> skreech: abattoir: thanks, done
[09:43] <skreech> fritsch: I'm showing CLI IRC in case thigns go bad
[09:43] <zapper> and i cant use fnfx to access the fn hotkeys because toshiba_acpi module is not loaded in the kernel
[09:43] <skreech> christianp: installed?
[09:43] <christianp> but i can't find libxine-extracodecs
[09:43] <fritsch> zapper: can you load it manually?
[09:43] <skreech> christianp: Did you fetch updates?
[09:43] <zapper> and when i try to load it i get an error telling me that toshiba_acpi.ko doesnt exist
[09:43] <pielgrzym> skreech: did it :) went to blank console and back :) cool thing;)
[09:44] <fdoving> skreech: exactly, stripped down linux+iptables, with less features than a real distro.
[09:44] <fritsch> zapper: try: sudo modprobe toshiba_acpi
[09:44] <christianp> skreech: of course :)
[09:44] <skreech> pielgrzym: Right there you can login and do anything from that you can do from konsole
[09:44] <skreech> christianp: And you don't have libxine-extracodecs?
[09:44] <fritsch> skreech: *hint* multiverse
[09:44] <abattoir> christianp: and the 'distribution' in that line was 'dapper'? rather than 'dapper-backports' ?
[09:44] <zapper> FATAL: Error inserting toshiba_acpi (/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-686/kernel/drivers/acpi/toshiba_acpi.ko): No such device
[09:44] <skreech> christianp: can you check to see if you enabled multiverse on dapper-backports ?
[09:45] <fritsch> zapper: lsmod |grep acpi
[09:45] <skreech> Blast
[09:45] <fritsch> zapper: you have a toshiba laptop? which supports this modul
[09:45] <fdoving> skreech: i have nothing but very good experience with http://ipcop.org even !linux-geeks can understand it if they have some networking experience. :)
[09:45] <ballchalk> wow this crazy
[09:46] <ballchalk> i didn't know linux can play mp4 and m4a files encoded by itunes
[09:46] <ballchalk> cool
[09:46] <zapper> i have a toshiba satellite m40-285
[09:46] <christianp> skreech: abattoir: when i add multiverse and click on update, it delete it and remain only universe
[09:46] <fritsch> zapper: what says: lsmod |grep acpi
[09:46] <zapper> acpi_cpufreq            6724  1
[09:46] <skreech> christianp: Add Multiverse then click apply before you click close
[09:46] <fritsch> zapper: perhaps some other acpi modules stress
[09:46] <zapper> freq_table              4928  2 acpi_cpufreq,cpufreq_stats
[09:47] <zapper> sony_acpi               5580  0
[09:47] <christianp> ok
[09:47] <zapper> pcc_acpi               12416  0
[09:47] <zapper> dev_acpi               11236  0
[09:47] <zapper> acpi_sbs               20172  0
[09:47] <zapper> battery                 9988  1 acpi_sbs
[09:47] <zapper> ac                      5220  1 acpi_sbs
[09:47] <zapper> i2c_acpi_ec             5120  1 acpi_sbs
[09:47] <zapper> i2c_core               22848  1 i2c_acpi_ec
[09:47] <zapper> processor              26344  2 acpi_cpufreq,thermal
[09:47] <zapper> thats the output i get
[09:47] <fritsch> zapper: sudo rmmod sony_acpi pcc_acpi
[09:47] <zapper> done
[09:47] <fritsch> zapper: after that: sudo modprobe toshiba_acpi
[09:48] <Hawkwind> zapper: Please use pastebin next time
[09:48] <Karol84PL> Hello, Amarok 1.4.1 crashes when i try to play last.fm. What's the problem?
[09:48] <zapper> i keep getting the same error
[09:48] <Hawkwind> !paste
[09:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:48] <fritsch> zapper: sudo rmmod toshiba
[09:48] <christianp> skreech: abattoir ok, now i find it :)
[09:48] <fritsch> zapper: modprobe toshiba_acpi
[09:48] <skreech> christianp: Wonderful :)
[09:49] <aliasfred> Hawkwind: would be nice to include how large is a large text in this message... like > 3 lines for example, or another limit
[09:49] <zapper> ERROR: Module toshiba does not exist in /proc/modules
[09:49] <fritsch> zapper: okay
[09:49] <skreech> dmesg stops logging where?
[09:49] <zapper> FATAL: Error inserting toshiba_acpi (/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-686/kernel/drivers/acpi/toshiba_acpi.ko): Operation not permitted
[09:49] <fritsch> zapper: please add toshiba_acpi to /etc/modules and reboot
[09:50] <fritsch> zapper: perhaps another acpi module uses the same resource and is loaded before
[09:50] <fritsch> zapper: /etc/modules is "worked" very early in the boot process
[09:50] <fritsch> zapper: perhaps you have luck
[09:50] <fritsch> zapper: => go and add toshiba_acpi to /etc/modules
[09:50] <Hawkwind> aliasfred: I agree, but Seveas decided not to give me edit access to the bot so I can't fix it unfortunately :(
[09:50] <christianp> and now i can play divx :D
[09:51] <shanaka> i just installed kubuntu and i want to install xine to it. can any one tell me how?
[09:51] <christianp> thans friends
[09:51] <zapper> i will try
[09:51] <zapper> thanks
[09:51] <Hawkwind> shanaka: sudo apt-get install xine ?
[09:51] <christianp> good bye
[09:51] <Hawkwind> shanaka: Assuming you have the correct repos setup such as universe and multiverse
[09:51] <abattoir> Hawkwind: was a reason given?
[09:51] <Nookie^> does anyone know where to get package name "mdnsresponder" for kubuntu?
[09:52] <zapper> rebooting...
[09:52] <Hawkwind> abattoir: I proposed about 8 - 10 changes to current facts and he said they were good the way they were unfortunately
[09:52] <Nookie^> !mdnsresponder
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdnsresponder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <abattoir> Hawkwind: hmm....
[09:52] <Hawkwind> abattoir: The facts I wanted to redo and proposed would have been a bit more user friendly and provided more information but he said no :(
[09:53] <abattoir> Hawkwind: :'(
[09:53] <flucker> Hi. anybody know how to do settings for compiz-plugin "scale" in KDE? I can't get an active corner to work?
[09:53] <MrBallZ> Hi, i have a question, is there anyway to setup Kubuntu Dapper, to automount ntfs usb drives when it detects them, just like Knoppix does ? ...
[09:53] <shanaka> thankX Hawkwind but when i tried it it says cannot find xine. i'm sure that i m connected to internet cos i m chattinhg with u. is there anything else i could try
[09:54] <Hawkwind> !repos > shanaka
[09:55] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Maybe we could convince Hobbsee or someone to convince him to let you and I have edit access.  The facts in the bot needs to be quite a bit more user friendly
[09:57] <shanaka> where can i get the repository info
[09:58] <fritsch> !reps
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <fritsch> !repos
[09:58] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:58] <wilfredH> !easysource
[09:58] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:58] <fritsch> pielgrzym: working?
[09:58] <pielgrzym> fritsch: nope
[09:58] <pielgrzym> removing either of these section causes
[09:58] <pielgrzym> that ctr +alt + backspace goes to blank console session
[09:59] <pielgrzym> when I type "X" I get "no screens found" error
[09:59] <fritsch> pielgrzym: okay: do
[09:59] <pielgrzym> how to run kde after going to blank session?
[09:59] <fritsch> pielgrzym: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:59] <fritsch> pielgrzym: no chance *g* we have to fix your xorg.conf
[10:00] <pielgrzym> because after putting everythng bakc to normal I typed "X" and got a blank Xsrver screen :)
[10:00] <pielgrzym> ok
[10:00] <fritsch> pielgrzym: wait!
[10:00] <fritsch> pielgrzym: what card do you have?
[10:00] <pielgrzym> radeon 9200
[10:00] <fritsch> pielgrzym: i edit you a config
 you can run /etc/init.d/kdm start  or  just init <somevalue>  the value depends on the os
[10:01] <shanaka> for kubuntu type init 2
[10:01] <skreech> pielgrzym: Worked?
[10:01] <pielgrzym> shanaka: thanks
[10:01] <pielgrzym> running dpkg right now
[10:01] <pielgrzym> skreech: nope - gui couldn't load :)
[10:02] <zapper> im here again
[10:02] <ballchalk> is there a key to deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib   ???
[10:02] <fritsch> pielgrzym: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~unatk/xorg.conf
[10:02] <zapper> it didnt work
[10:02] <fritsch> zapper: okay, sorry, no idea then
[10:02] <shanaka> where can i find the repository info
[10:02] <skreech> pielgrzym: So where are you now?
[10:02] <fritsch> zapper: perhaps the kernel people can help you
[10:02] <h3sp4wn> ballchalk: debian-keyrings (or debian-archive-keyrings) - on kubuntu though ?
[10:02] <skreech> CLI?
[10:02] <fritsch> pielgrzym: got the url?
[10:03] <zapper> where should i ask then?
[10:03] <pielgrzym> fritsch: yes
[10:03] <pielgrzym> fritsch: I'm pasting it now :)
[10:03] <fritsch> pielgrzym: try this config
[10:03] <pielgrzym> fritsch: ok :)
[10:03] <fritsch> pielgrzym: just wget it ...
[10:03] <skreech> nalioth: Hi
[10:03] <ballchalk> crap
[10:03] <ballchalk> i can't launch adept
[10:03] <fritsch> ballchalk: why?
[10:03] <ballchalk> it asks for my passwd and it doen's tdo anyting
[10:03] <skreech> ballchalk: On what basis?
[10:04] <nalioth> howdy
[10:04] <fritsch> skreech: working?
[10:04] <skreech> ballchalk: Kill all adept
[10:04] <ballchalk> i tried to install flashplugin-nonfree and gave me same problem in adept like the sunjava installation so i quit
[10:04] <skreech> fritsch: No I'm trying to figure out where dmesg stops logging
[10:04] <ballchalk> k brb
[10:04] <skreech> nalioth: How goes?
[10:04] <fritsch> ballchalk: killall (written togher)
[10:04] <fritsch> ballchalk: as root, because adepts runs in "sudo" mode
[10:04] <ulixes> anyone
[10:05] <ulixes> can explain this:
[10:05] <ulixes> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[10:05] <ulixes> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[10:05] <ulixes> (i'm new in linux)
[10:05] <ballchalk> skreech: done it works now
[10:05] <skreech> ulixes: What did you type?
[10:05] <ulixes> it's a command replu
[10:05] <skreech> ballchalk: Hooray!
[10:05] <ulixes> *y
[10:05] <ballchalk> fritsch: yea i recog that command from darwin osx86
[10:05] <ballchalk> heh
[10:05] <nalioth> skreech: as i've said before, if you see me join, my ISP has screwed up.
[10:05] <skreech> ulixes: Right what commnad did you type?
[10:05] <aliasfred> ulixes: add sudo before the command, it will give you the permission
[10:05] <SonicChao> ulixes: You need to use sudo before the command
[10:05] <nalioth> ulixes: close all your apt-get synaptic or dkpg instances
[10:06] <skreech> nalioth: :-) Of course :) How's #Ubuntu-libre ?
[10:06] <ulixes> so: sudo /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open
[10:06] <ulixes> ?
[10:06] <fritsch> ulixes: no
[10:06] <ulixes> nalioth: how?
[10:06] <fritsch> ulixes: what do you want to do?
[10:06] <ulixes> i want
[10:06] <ulixes> to get update in adept
[10:06] <SonicChao> ulixes: What are you trying to do?
[10:06] <aliasfred> ulixes: try to answer the questions :)
[10:06] <ulixes> but it does'nt work
[10:06] <fritsch> ulixes: close adept
[10:06] <ulixes> so i try to use it via console
[10:06] <SonicChao> ulixes: sudo dist-upgrade
[10:06] <shanaka> exit
[10:06] <fritsch> ulixes: ah!
[10:06] <skreech> aliasfred: Not an english speaker give ulixes a break :)
[10:06] <fritsch> ulixes: sudo apt-get update
[10:07] <nalioth> ulixes: look at all your virtual desktops and turn off all those things i mentioned
[10:07] <ulixes> yes
[10:07] <ulixes> i'm italian
[10:07] <SonicChao> ulixes: Sorry I ment: sudo apt-get update
[10:07] <nalioth> !it
[10:07] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:07] <SonicChao> !it
[10:07] <wilfredH> hi guys, do I need to install any packages to get building applications from source? I get the error: bash: make: command not found
[10:07] <SonicChao> nalioth: Beat me to it. >.>
[10:07] <fritsch> wilfredH: depends
[10:07] <skreech> !b-e > wilfredH
[10:07] <ulixes> it rest on 0%
[10:07] <fritsch> wilfredH: sudo apt-get build-essential is the beginning
[10:07] <ballchalk> i can't view youtube videos and i got nonfree flash plugin installed for firefox
[10:08] <ballchalk> i need help
[10:08] <fritsch> ballchalk: try: about:plugins
[10:08] <SonicChao> ballchalk: I can't either.
[10:08] <skreech> ballchalk: They might have updaetd to Flash 8
[10:08] <ballchalk> fritsch: ok
[10:08] <ballchalk> brb
[10:08] <fritsch> ballchalk: close every firefox and open again
[10:08] <SonicChao> ballchalk: I use a little program called youtube-dl
[10:08] <skreech> In that case you are about out of luck
[10:08] <ulixes> so can anyone start a private conversation to help me?
[10:08] <ulixes> thx
[10:08] <SonicChao> ballchalk: And then mplayer to open it.
[10:08] <SonicChao> !pm
[10:08] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[10:08] <ballchalk> ok
[10:08] <pielgrzym> fritsch: works now, but Im back in mesa now
[10:09] <pielgrzym> 
[10:09] <skreech> ulixes: It's ok everyone is rushing to help you as soon as it settles to one or two you will be fine :)
[10:09] <SonicChao> ballchalk: Do you need links to youtube-dl? I can help you install it if you need to.
[10:09] <fritsch> pielgrzym: what says glxinfo |grep -i direct
[10:09] <ulixes> hello???
[10:09] <pielgrzym> something happend to my keyboard layzot
[10:09] <skreech> ulixes: You tried to do an update in adept rigth?
[10:09] <pielgrzym> its german now
[10:09] <SonicChao> ulixes: No...no PMing.
[10:09] <skreech> And you said it didn't work?
[10:09] <SonicChao> !pm > ulixes
[10:09] <ulixes> yes
[10:09] <skreech> What didn't work?
[10:09] <ballchalk> fritsch: i love you
[10:09] <fritsch> pielgrzym: ups, sorry :-)
[10:09] <ulixes> yes it rest on 0%
[10:09] <ballchalk> SonicChao: i love you
[10:09] <fritsch> ballchalk: thx *g*
[10:09] <ballchalk> skreech: i love you too man
[10:09] <ulixes> the update collecting
[10:09] <fritsch> pielgrzym: i update te config for fglrx and US
[10:09] <ballchalk> hahahh athanks
[10:10] <SonicChao> ballchalk: What?
[10:10] <pielgrzym> Im polish
[10:10] <skreech> ulixes: Sometimes the servers get a little tired :)
[10:10] <SonicChao> ballchalk: O_o
[10:10] <pielgrzym> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:10] <pielgrzym> direct rendering: No
[10:10] <pielgrzym> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[10:10] <skreech> And you have to be patient
[10:10] <pielgrzym> the glxgaers hardly work now
[10:10] <ballchalk> SonicChao: i love you man
[10:10] <skreech> ulixes: can adept open now?
[10:10] <ulixes> yes
[10:10] <ballchalk> kubuntu is awsome
[10:10] <skreech> Ok but it still will not update?
[10:10] <SonicChao> ballchalk: Please, I'm not homosexual....your really freaking me out.
[10:11] <carlos_> hello everyone.
[10:11] <ulixes> skreech what to do?
[10:11] <skreech> ulixes: has it ever worked?
[10:11] <SonicChao> Hello carlos_.
[10:11] <pielgrzym> fritsch: Ill be right back
[10:11] <skreech> !info libsexy2
[10:11] <ubotu> libsexy2: collection of additional GTK+ widgets - library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1.7-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 38 kB, installed size 128 kB
[10:11] <fritsch> pielgrzym: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~unatk/xorg.conf
[10:11] <carlos_> :) need help setting up my apache server
[10:12] <ulixes> no
[10:12] <ulixes> skreeck
[10:12] <SonicChao> !apache
[10:12] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:12] <ulixes> the system is hust formatted
[10:12] <SonicChao> Hope that helps carlos_.
[10:12] <carlos_> Have read several howto{s and guides but I can only see my page locally (on my network) not on the www
[10:12] <fritsch> pielgrzym: just look again in the url
[10:12] <arepie> !firefox
[10:12] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[10:12] <skreech> ulixes: Ah. can you pastebin the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[10:13] <skreech> !paste
[10:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:13] <ulixes> yes
[10:13] <skreech> ulixes: use the URL above ^^^
[10:13] <arepie> how to install firefox on kubuntu?? is it possible?
[10:13] <skreech> arepie: install mozilla-firefox
[10:13] <fritsch> arepie: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[10:13] <fritsch> skreech: ;-) fast
[10:13] <ulixes> ok
[10:13] <SonicChao> arepie: sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:13] <SonicChao> =)
[10:13] <skreech> :-)
[10:14] <arepie> plus all the plugin ?
[10:14] <arepie> im on amd64
[10:14] <skreech> ulixes: when you click send give us the URL that the browser gives you
[10:14] <ulixes> done
[10:14] <ulixes> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21328
[10:14] <skreech> You won't get flash
[10:14] <SonicChao> arepie: Oh, I don't know about that...
[10:15] <fritsch> pielgrzym: working?
[10:15] <fritsch> pielgrzym: why do you want fglrx? mesa for your radeon 9200 is fine?
[10:15] <skreech> ulixes: Doesn't seem to have anything wrong
[10:15] <fritsch> skreech: it is working *g*?
[10:16] <skreech> ulixes: what does sudo apt-get update give you?
[10:16] <ballchalk> SonicChao: oh sorry man
[10:16] <ballchalk> to set the record straight
[10:16] <ulixes> a second
[10:16] <ballchalk> i'm straight haha
[10:16] <skreech> fritsch: No I'm trying to trace logs. dmesg seesm to stop logging before my problem and kdm seems to start logging after
[10:16] <ulixes> it rest o 0%
[10:16] <fritsch> skreech: i think you "symlinked" your X executable to something ...
[10:17] <ulixes> and then go to timeout
[10:17] <fritsch> ulixes: do you use a proxy?
[10:17] <ulixes> no
[10:18] <fritsch> ulixes: does "ping www.google.com" work?
[10:18] <skreech> fritsch: No I didn't not manually at any case
[10:18] <fritsch> skreech: okay
[10:18] <skreech> nalioth: How's #ubuntu-libre ?
[10:18] <ulixes> i'm connect with konversation
[10:18] <ulixes> from kubuntu
[10:18] <ulixes> so
[10:18] <ulixes> ..
[10:19] <skreech> :-) no
[10:19] <SonicChao> ulixes: Type that into a terminal.
[10:19] <ulixes> anyway yes
[10:19] <SonicChao> ulixes: Or, a Konsole.
[10:19] <fritsch> ulixes: try from your shell, perhaps something ist worlogy exported
[10:19] <ulixes> reply
[10:19] <dan_> can someone help me install a .sh file
[10:19] <dan_> please
[10:19] <fritsch> dan_: if you want *g*
[10:19] <dan_> cool
[10:19] <fritsch> dan_: chmod +x "file.sh"
[10:19] <skreech> dan_: ./something.sh
[10:19] <SonicChao> dan_: I can help to
[10:19] <fritsch> dan_:  after that ./file.sh
[10:19] <dan_> oh yeah
[10:19] <dan_> oops
[10:19] <SonicChao> dan_: chmod +x file.sh
[10:19] <dan_> i forgot the . before /
[10:20] <dan_> thanx
[10:20] <SonicChao> dan_: chmod 755 file.sh
[10:20] <SonicChao> dan_: ./file.sh
[10:20] <fritsch> SonicChao: its the same,  as chmod +x
[10:20] <skreech> ulixes: You can ping archive.ubuntu.com ?
[10:20] <dan_> thanx guys
[10:20] <ulixes> no
[10:20] <ulixes> it does not work
[10:20] <fritsch> ulixes: see *G* there is the problem
[10:21] <ulixes> can you explain?
[10:21] <fritsch> ulixes: you cannot send a package to archive.ubuntu.com
[10:21] <pielgrzym> fritsch: thanks for the new config
[10:21] <fritsch> pielgrzym: working?
[10:21] <pielgrzym> fritsch: mesa seems to work really slow
[10:21] <fritsch> pielgrzym: you have to enable, XV Overlay ...
[10:21] <carlos_> I'm running kubuntu on a PIII@733Mhz with 748MB of memory and 133mhz bus. with those my system run so slow?
[10:22] <fritsch> pielgrzym: now you use fglrx?
[10:22] <pielgrzym> fritsch: even divx movies ale cluncz
[10:22] <fritsch> pielgrzym: you use the first one?
[10:22] <pielgrzym> wait a second need to restart x to see how it works
[10:22] <fritsch> pielgrzym: try
[10:22] <spriet> hi all
[10:22] <ulixes> ??
[10:22] <spriet> jeamand da der deutsch kann?
[10:23] <nalioth> skreech: why not join us there?
[10:23] <fritsch> spriet: #kubuntu-de
[10:23] <spriet> thx
[10:24] <pielgrzym> fritsch: new config seems to work ok
[10:24] <fritsch> pielgrzym: okay, enable XV Overlay
[10:24] <fritsch> pielgrzym: this i have forgotten
[10:24] <fritsch> pielgrzym: you are using fglrx now?
[10:25] <pielgrzym> fritsch: yes
[10:25] <fritsch> pielgrzym: added the XV Overlay
[10:25] <pielgrzym> fritsch: the glxgears ale clunky even with karramba disabled
[10:25] <pielgrzym> ok
[10:25] <spriet> how to open the port 22 on the FW?
[10:25] <pielgrzym> fritsch: in the new config?
[10:26] <spriet> can sombodx told me?
[10:26] <fritsch> pielgrzym: clunky means not fast?
[10:26] <fritsch> pielgrzym: you shall add the XV Overlay
[10:26] <pielgrzym> fritsch: no it means once a secont the gears stop
[10:26] <pielgrzym> second
[10:26] <pielgrzym> fritsch: the same happens to divx movies - they are not fluent
[10:27] <fritsch> pielgrzym: what says glxgears -printfps
[10:27] <fritsch> pielgrzym: let`s see
[10:27] <fritsch> pielgrzym: what tells glxgears -printfps
[10:27] <pielgrzym> 6760 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1351.880 FPS
[10:27] <fritsch> pielgrzym: seems working though
[10:27] <fritsch> pielgrzym: now, let us try the OSS radeon again, okay?
[10:27] <pielgrzym> ok :)
[10:28] <fritsch> pielgrzym: i update the config you do the while
[10:28] <fritsch> pielgrzym: sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:28] <pielgrzym> fritsch: I really appreciate your help :) thanks a lot for your time :) now I know what is a community :) thanks :)
[10:28] <pielgrzym> ok
[10:29] <pielgrzym> fritsch: removed the driver :)
[10:29] <fritsch> pielgrzym: sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa libgl1-mesa-dri libglu1-mesa --reinstall
[10:29] <fritsch> wait, ill update the config
[10:29] <pielgrzym> ok
[10:30] <pielgrzym> mesa is being downloaded :) it'll take a while :)
[10:32] <fritsch> pielgrzym: please use this one: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~unatk/xorg.conf
[10:32] <fritsch> pielgrzym: just updated
[10:32] <fritsch> pielgrzym: perhaps you have to restart whole system, because of the dri modul is changing
[10:33] <fritsch> pielgrzym: try adding radeon into /etc/modules also
[10:33] <pielgrzym> fritsch: just "radeon"?
[10:33] <fritsch> pielgrzym: yes
[10:33] <fritsch> pielgrzym: then lets see ;-)
[10:34] <pielgrzym> ok, did it :)
[10:34] <fritsch> :-)
[10:34] <fritsch> cool, using the new config? libgl stuff already downloaded?
[10:34] <pielgrzym> mesa is ready
[10:34] <karl_> anybody about to help me with a fbfx prob
[10:34] <fritsch> pielgrzym: okay, try reboot
[10:34] <pielgrzym> ok
[10:34] <pielgrzym> brb ;)
[10:35] <pielgrzym> fritsch: btw. why did you add mobility 9000 not 9200 in the xorg? :)
[10:35] <fritsch> pielgrzym: does not matter *g*
[10:36] <fritsch> pielgrzym: just changed my config
[10:36] <pielgrzym> fritsch: I see :) ok, so i'm rebooting :) brb
[10:44] <office_> who can help to play movies ?
[10:44] <office_> i need subtitles too
[10:44] <fritsch> !restrictedformats > office_
[10:44] <jujimufu> !mysql
[10:45] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:45] <__osh__> kororaa's xgl-enabled live-cd has been pulled. anyone know of any other? I'll settle for one that downloads and configures it for me after the livecd has been booted.
[10:45] <tarz> anyone tried automatix on a fresh installed dapper 6.06.1 ?
[10:45] <jujimufu> tarz: I have
[10:45] <jujimufu> tarz: having any problems?
[10:46] <fritsch> jujimufu: :-)
[10:46] <jujimufu> fritsch: :D
[10:46] <tarz> jujimufu: indeed. it wont work... stops in line 54 of command.py when i interrupt it
[10:46] <jujimufu> tarz: As soon as my installed kubuntu was running, I had EasyUbuntu and Automatix ran to install lots of packages for me
[10:46] <jujimufu> tarz: what do you mean?
[10:47] <draik> I can't seem to run 'Synaptic'
[10:47] <jujimufu> tarz: as in, have you installed it? are you running it and you get this error?
[10:47] <draik> How do I reinstall through konsole?
[10:48] <fritsch> draik: something special? or everything?
[10:48] <tarz> jujimufu: yes
[10:48] <tarz> jujimufu: when starting nothing happens, so i pressed strg-c
[10:48] <draik> fritsch, I can't run synaptic, so I guess everything
[10:48] <jujimufu> tarz: how do you start it?
[10:48] <jujimufu> fritsch: dear christ, how many hours have you been online?
[10:49] <fritsch> draik: open a terminal and type: kdesu synaptic
[10:49] <fritsch> draik: any error reported?
[10:49] <tarz> jujimufu: lol.. it starts when running python /path/to/automatix.py
[10:49] <draik> fritsch, Command 'synaptic' not found.
[10:49] <fritsch> draik: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[10:49] <fritsch> draik: :-)
[10:50] <jujimufu> tarz: wait, I am checking it right now
[10:50] <fritsch> draik: this is not the default kubuntu app though
[10:50] <draik> I know
[10:50] <m-lund> Anyone here with a Thinkpad T23 running dapper? Or more generally: A S3 Savage chipset. After an apt-get update; apt-get upgrade, I cannot start my X anymore... It ends with (EE) No devices detected. The configuration file is the same.
[10:50] <jujimufu> tarz: justs open a console and type automatix wthout the quotes
[10:50] <sd6asset> anyone using valknut here
[10:50] <sd6asset> ?
[10:50] <fritsch> m-lund: please pastbin your xorg.conf
[10:50] <fritsch> !pastebin > m-lund
[10:50] <draik> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:50] <draik> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:50] <fritsch> sd6asset: me did before
[10:51] <draik> sorry, I had adept open
[10:51] <fritsch> draik: sudo killall adpept && sudo killall synaptic
[10:51] <draik> whoops
[10:51] <morphius_> I updated my password (sudo passwd) but now kdesu still uses the old password. How can I update this?
[10:51] <fritsch> draik: now: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[10:51] <draik> I did and it it is installed
[10:51] <fritsch> draik: cool
[10:51] <jujimufu> tarz: so, what happened?
[10:51] <fritsch> draik: now do: kdesu synaptic
[10:51] <draik> I just can't run it
[10:51] <tarz> jujimufu: this doesnt work for me, using starting it manually via python /usr/share/automatix/automatix.py did the trick
[10:52] <sd6asset> fritsch, can u tell me please, is that normal that most of the files I try to download from I got a response : Permission Denie or something in that way. Is that a block or smth for linux based mods of DC++?
[10:52] <draik> fritsch, Command 'synaptic' not found.
[10:52] <sd6asset> I just dont get it
[10:52] <fritsch> sd6asset: i did not have this prob before
[10:52] <jujimufu> tarz: if you're using KDE, go to KMenu -> System -> Automatix-Kubuntu
[10:52] <jujimufu> tarz: this should do the trick
[10:52] <fritsch> sd6asset: a good alternative is ldcpp.berlios.de
[10:52] <pielgrzym> fritsch: the new config didn't work
[10:52] <sd6asset> fritsch, a better alternative?
[10:52] <pielgrzym> fritsch: had some trouble getting back to X ;)
[10:53] <ballchalk> should i install rar free or rar unfree?
[10:54] <bisoncb> hello All...
[10:54] <tomjir> bisoncb: hello
[10:55] <jujimufu> hey bisoncb
[10:55] <m-lund> fritsch: Pasted my xorg.conf to pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21334
[10:55] <jujimufu> tarz: so?
[10:58] <fritsch> pielgrzym: mmmh?
[10:58] <fritsch> pielgrzym: there were some errors?
[10:59] <pielgrzym> fritsch: it did't work, probably because I forgot to chage your config back to ati
[10:59] <fritsch> m-lund: what was the error
[10:59] <fritsch> pielgrzym: you just had to use my nw config?
[10:59] <m-lund> fritsch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21335
[11:00] <pielgrzym> fritsch: nw?
[11:00] <morphius_> I updated my password (sudo passwd) but now kdesu still uses the old password. How can I update this?
[11:01] <jujimufu> tarz: um... are you still there?
[11:01] <m-lund> fritsch: The xorg.conf hasn't changed. I even ran a dpkg-reconfigre xserver-xorg with no success. It detects the savage card during the configuration, but the Xserver just won't start. I can see through strace, that it actually opens thefile savagedrv.so
[11:01] <ballchalk> is there any discrepencies with unrar-free as opposed to unrar nonfree?
[11:01] <ballchalk> i can't unpack a rar file
[11:01] <pielgrzym> fritsch: I'm checking again :) brb
[11:01] <morphius_> \identify
[11:01] <ubuntu> can anyone help answer a quick question on what nvidia driver i should get?
[11:01] <fritsch> m-lund: i see, you config looks correct
[11:02] <fritsch> m-lund: was this all from Xorg.0.log?
[11:02] <fritsch> m-lund: i don`t think so
[11:02] <morphius_> ubuntu: use either the one out of the repos, or the one off the nvidia web page
[11:02] <deXtrezza> well there is ia32 or ia64 i honestly don't know the diff
[11:02] <deXtrezza> nor do i know what repos is, sorry guys linux is new to me
[11:03] <morphius_> are you running a 64 bit OS/kernel or a 32-bit
[11:03] <morphius_> repo is short for repository, reference the apt-get repositories (accessed graphically through adept)
[11:04] <deXtrezza> assuming the 32-bit since it's the i386 not the amd64, i was just on the amd64 but it's not as compatable with other things
[11:04] <morphius_> then go with the ia32 one.
[11:04] <deXtrezza> word, thx ;j
[11:04] <fritsch> morphius_: the nvidia installer can completely break the X installation ...
[11:04] <jujimufu> this is such a silly question after what I've gone through today, but how do I make my user jujimufu to have access to sudo without having to type a password each time (i.e., what do I write in /etc/sudoers)
[11:04] <fritsch> morphius_: not a good way, i think
[11:05] <morphius_> here's a good howto on installing the driver for your card, deXtrezza:
[11:05] <pielgrzym> fritsch: works now
[11:05] <morphius_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:05] <fritsch> pielgrzym: do glxgears -printfps
[11:05] <pielgrzym> fritsch: superkaramba seems to cause those pauses
[11:05] <pielgrzym> fritsch: ok
[11:05] <abattoir> jujimufu: add NOPASSWD: ALL to the end of the %admin line
[11:05] <morphius_> thanks fritsch, good to know
[11:05] <deXtrezza> thx i'll check it out
[11:05] <fritsch> pielgrzym: yes the pauses ARE from superkaramba
[11:05] <fritsch> morphius_: they install with a sh script
[11:05] <fritsch> morphius_: overwriting stuff, etc.
[11:05] <abattoir> jujimufu: '%admin  ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL' is how mine looks
[11:06] <pielgrzym> fritsch: 4617 frames in 5.0 seconds = 923.268 FPS
[11:06] <draik> fritsch, in Adept, I noticed that synaptic has a conflict with 'menu >= 2.1.11' but I have 2.1.27
[11:06] <fritsch> morphius_: when you now get an X update, eveyrthing can get broken
[11:06] <m-lund> fritsch: sorry: Here you have it all from xorg.x.log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21336
[11:06] <pielgrzym> fritsch: I know, but why do they affect the divX movies? never had such issue in a win machine
[11:06] <jujimufu> slaughterhouse: thanks :)
[11:06] <morphius_> makes sense
[11:06] <fritsch> pielgrzym: pastebin your xorg.conf once again
[11:06] <abattoir> jujimufu: hehe
[11:06] <ubuntu> czesc :)
[11:06] <pielgrzym> ok :)
[11:06] <jujimufu> abattoir: really, why do you have sucha nickname? :)
[11:06] <morphius_> is xgl in the repositories now, or do you still have to do a manual install?
[11:06] <Nrik> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 04e8:663e Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd
[11:07] <morphius_> If it is in the repos, is there a howto?
[11:07] <fritsch> m-lund: provide a PCI ID to this Device
[11:07] <abattoir> jujimufu: it wasnt intentional... just stuck :)
[11:07] <jujimufu> abattoir: I bet :)
[11:07] <jujimufu> !yakuake
[11:07] <ubotu> yakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB
[11:07] <Nrik> help me please use SGH-D820 via USB
[11:07] <fritsch> m-lund: BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
[11:07] <jujimufu> btw, guys, yakuake totally rocks :)
[11:07] <fritsch> m-lund: in the savage ID section
[11:07] <trappist> jujimufu: yeah it does
[11:07] <m-lund> fritsch: I think I have tried that. Will do it again and send a new xorg.n.log
[11:07] <fritsch> pielgrzym: pastebin?
[11:07] <pielgrzym> fritsch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21338
[11:07] <fritsch> thx
[11:08] <pielgrzym> :)
[11:08] <TheGateKeeper> morphius_: have you checked the ubuntu forums?
[11:08] <abattoir> jujimufu: indeed.. too bad it doesnt work for me :(
[11:08] <fritsch> pielgrzym: i edit online
[11:08] <jujimufu> abattoir: why?
[11:08] <TheGateKeeper> !xgl > morphius_
[11:08] <jujimufu> abattoir: there is even a kubuntu packge. What could be wrong?
[11:08] <abattoir> jujimufu: 64-bit, i causes X to crash
[11:08] <draik> what torrent client would you recommend? Anybody?
[11:08] <morphius_> yes. I did
[11:08] <pielgrzym> fritsch: ok :) I only need to refresh the site, right?
[11:08] <abattoir> jujimufu: but i havent investigated it much
[11:09] <abattoir> draik: ktorrent
[11:09] <abattoir> draik: comes pre-installed w/ kubuntu
[11:09] <draik> abattoir, ktorrent won't recognize torrents
[11:09] <draik> I tried, but nothing
[11:09] <abattoir> huh?
[11:09] <morphius_> It mentioned it may be in the repoistories. I can't really find a thing anymore with their new search engine. It really sucks
[11:09] <fritsch> pielgrzym: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21340
[11:09] <jujimufu> abattoir: oh, meh... it really is pretty hanfy
[11:09] <morphius_> Thanks gatekeeper
[11:09] <fritsch> pielgrzym: now, we tune a little bit
[11:09] <jujimufu> *handy
[11:09] <pielgrzym> fritsch: cool :)
[11:09] <jujimufu> draik: azureus
[11:09] <jujimufu> !azureus
[11:09] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[11:10] <fritsch> pielgrzym: you see the difference?
[11:10] <abattoir> jujimufu: yes
[11:10] <draik> abattoir, here is the error:   An error occurred while loading the torrent. The torrent is probably corrupt or is not a torrent file.
[11:10] <fritsch> draik: so choose another torrent file
[11:10] <pielgrzym> fritsch: yup
[11:10] <draik> Cannot create /home/draik/Desktop/Torrents/Click.2006.XviD.TS-RUSTLERS.[www.torrentfive.com] /Click.2006.XviD.TS-RUSTLERS.[www.torrentfive.com] .avi: No such file or directory
[11:10] <pielgrzym> fritsch: agp mode and some stuff
[11:10] <pielgrzym> fritsch: testing ;)
[11:10] <fritsch> pielgrzym:  do them in and restart X
[11:11] <pielgrzym> fritsch: ok ;)
[11:11] <abattoir> draik: please dont paste that here :)
[11:11] <mkpaa> I just upgraded xserver and it stopped working. I am using matrox G550 and xorg throws error 'no devices found'
[11:11] <draik> sorry
[11:11] <draik> :)
[11:11] <abattoir> draik: and as fritsch suggested, have you tried other torrents?
[11:11] <mkpaa> it worked fine before last upgrade
[11:11] <draik> I tried the same torrent with Azureus, but Azureus opened and killed itself
[11:11] <fritsch> m-lund: mmmh there was ein xserver update
[11:12] <draik> Azureus does that when I try to open it
[11:12] <fritsch> m-lund: i will try reloading X, too... mkpaa has the same problem?
[11:12] <abattoir> draik: there are some issues w/ azureus in kubuntu....
[11:12] <draik> as far as other torrents, I am about to try that now
[11:12] <mkpaa> appears
[11:13] <abattoir> draik: also, there is a newer version of ktorrent, and it is a lot faster
[11:13] <draik> I updated everything to the latest version
[11:13] <mkpaa> whats the easiest way to reload the previous version?
[11:13] <pielgrzym> fritsch: glxgears now: 6134 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1226.638 FPS
[11:13] <mkpaa> or say, downgrade the xserver-xorg-core
[11:13] <pielgrzym> fritsch: still with pauses
[11:13] <fritsch> pielgrzym: even as fast as fglrx, but without prorpietary
[11:13] <pielgrzym> fritsch: maybe it's got something to do with scheduling?
[11:13] <abattoir> mkpaa: look in /var/cache/apt/archives... see if the old deb is there
[11:14] <fritsch> pielgrzym: these pauses i get, too
[11:14] <fritsch> abattoir: me thinks the xserver update is the problem
[11:14] <abattoir> fritsch: this in dapper?
[11:14] <skreech> fritsch: I think I have a new lead
[11:14] <fritsch> abattoir: yes
[11:14] <m-lund> mkpaa: Seems like I have the same problem as you - after the latest update.
[11:14] <pielgrzym> fritsch: do you have those pauses in movies? :) I've heard that linux has a few task scheduling systems
[11:14] <skreech> fritsch: Xserver update IS the problem !! :)
[11:14] <fritsch> abattoir: same problem for me, m-lund, mkpaa
[11:14] <fritsch> skreech: YES I See too
[11:15] <abattoir> fritsch: ok, there was a similar problem in edgy... solution there was to either downgrade or wait for fixed packages
[11:15] <skreech> fritsch: error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[11:15] <abattoir> fritsch: could you guys post  a log of the error?
[11:15] <fritsch> abattoir: okay, i downgrade
[11:15] <fritsch> abattoir: reported it on kubuntu-devel
[11:16] <fritsch> m-lund: still there?
[11:16] <draik> abattoir, I tried with another torrent and ktorrent still gives me the same issue
[11:16] <abattoir> fritsch: wait, let me look at the logs, and see if its the same prob.
[11:16] <m-lund> fritsch: Still here...
[11:16] <fritsch> m-lund: please give your Xorg.0.log
[11:16] <pielgrzym> fritsch: I've got a problem :)
[11:16] <fritsch> m-lund: for abattoir
[11:16] <pielgrzym> fritsch: which part of xorg is responsible for keyboard?
[11:16] <fritsch> pielgrzym: xkb-date
[11:17] <pielgrzym> fritsch: since in poland we use Alt+Ctrl to do some fonts and when I try it now it keeps openin menus ;)
[11:17] <pielgrzym> fritsch: thnx
[11:17] <fritsch> pielgrzym: change keybard from 105 to 104
[11:18] <m-lund> fritsch: abattoir: Here is my log (started on :9 though, but same problem) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21342
[11:18] <fritsch> m-lund: dpkg -l |grep xserver-xorg-core
[11:18] <mkpaa> suppose everyone has error: no devices found and that causes no screens found and fatal io error 104
[11:18] <fritsch> m-lund: which version
[11:18] <fritsch> mkpaa: yes, m-lund shall file the bugreport
[11:19] <fritsch> mkpaa: the devs are informed, just wating for the bug report
[11:19] <m-lund> ii  xserver-xorg-core                      1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3                       X.Org X server -- core server
[11:19] <m-lund> fritsch: ii  xserver-xorg-core                      1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3                       X.Org X server -- core server
[11:19] <m-lund> fritsch: Newest version.
[11:19] <fritsch> m-lund: here, too: same problem
[11:20] <abattoir> m-lund, fritsch: yup, i think its similar to what i had...
[11:20] <abattoir> fritsch: tried 'startx' from cli? what does it say?
[11:20] <fritsch> abattoir: what doing now? the whole world won`t be able to start X, if the shutdown
[11:20] <fritsch> abattoir: the same
[11:21] <fritsch> i post my log, just wait
[11:21] <mkpaa> could it cause the problem that mga driver is 6.9.something and xorg 7.0.0?
[11:22] <m-lund> mkpaa: fritsch: I use the savage driver
[11:22] <ballchalk> anybody useing gtkpod?
[11:22] <mkpaa> would that be previous version too ? you can check it from /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:22] <pielgrzym> fritsch: got rid of keyboard probs :)
[11:23] <fritsch> pielgrzym: cool
[11:23] <mkpaa> I think it would make sense that xorg doesnt recognize mga driver compiled for 6.99 if xorg is version 7.0?
[11:24] <pielgrzym> fritsch: thanks for help :) any idea how to fix the movie playback?
[11:24] <fritsch> mkpaa: no its a bug
[11:24] <knd> how can i install bitchx on ubuntu ?
[11:24] <fritsch> pielgrzym: it has to work now?
[11:24] <pielgrzym> fritsch: nope
[11:24] <fritsch> mkpaa: what tells: dpkg -l |grep xserver-xorg-core
[11:24] <pielgrzym> fritsch: just tinkering in my sys ;)
[11:24] <fritsch> pielgrzym: close superkaramba and retry
[11:24] <pielgrzym> fritsch: ok
[11:24] <fritsch> pielgrzym: look, if mplayer uses "XV" plugin
[11:25] <pielgrzym> fritsch: I use caffeine
[11:25] <mkpaa> frits, same as m-lund's. I also did the latest upgrade
[11:25] <Hawkwind> knd: sudo apt-get install bitchx
[11:25] <skreech> fritsch: ping me when you have a second
[11:26] <m-lund> mkpaa: Do you know how to step back one version, so I can get my X back?
[11:26] <abattoir> fritsch: you get any ABI errors when you do startx?
[11:26] <fritsch> m-lund: please file a bug in launchpat
[11:26] <fritsch> abattoir: i try
[11:26] <m-lund> fritsch: Link to launchpad?
[11:26] <fritsch> EE No devices detected
[11:26] <fritsch> www.launchpad.net
[11:26] <Hawkwind> m-lund: launchpad.net
[11:27] <fritsch> abattoir: somebody can stop the users from fetching this upgrade?
[11:27] <abattoir> fritsch: ok, i guess you can try downgrading
[11:27] <deXtrezza> it seems that the 'install' went fine except that i can't tell a diff that the nvidia driver is in
[11:27] <fritsch> abattoir: if 75% of ubuntu users will download this, they wont be able to start x
[11:27] <deXtrezza> can't up my res
[11:27] <fritsch> abattoir: yes, i can no problem ... but others?
[11:27] <abattoir> fritsch: not sure... lets see if people in #ubuntu face this too...
[11:28] <fritsch> abattoir: i think so, this is an xorg error
[11:29] <ballchalk> can anyone help me with gtkpod? i got it installed but it's not detecting my ipod
[11:29] <abattoir> fritsch: yes, last i remembered it was fixed w/ updates... some ABI problem...
[11:29] <abattoir> fritsch: and yes, ppl at #ubuntu are complaining too
[11:29] <fritsch> abattoir: this update is from today
[11:30] <pielgrzym> fritsch: I can choose many options for video - xv too. should I use it?
[11:30] <fritsch> pielgrzym: yes
[11:31] <larson9999> fritsch: which upgrade should i not get?
[11:31] <fritsch> larson9999: the acutal for X
[11:31] <morphius_> I recently changed my root password. Now when I try to access features of kde and it prompts for the root password, If I enter the new password (which works in terminal), it will not let me acces the feature. It only works if I enter the old root password. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[11:32] <mkpaa> for those curious about downgrading, sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_1%3a1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb does the trick
[11:32] <larson9999> fritsch i already did.  afterwards my system locked up.  i rebooted and so far so good.  at least i think X was in the list
[11:33] <mkpaa> now we just wait for stable version of xserver
[11:33] <larson9999> fritsch: where are the updates logged?
[11:33] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Same place everything is, /var/log/messages
[11:34] <m-lund> fritsch: Can't send the bug report. Need my email-client to register account, Need X to use email and so on :) But If it is a Ubuntu problem too, maybe there a lot of reports already?
[11:34] <Hawkwind> m-lund: links or lynx is a browser you can use from the CLI
[11:34] <skreech> Anyone know the solution to error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[11:34] <mkpaa> that downgrade should work for most of you having problem with newest xorg
[11:34] <skreech> lynx is cool :)
[11:34] <Hawkwind> No X doesn't stop the world from rotating :P
[11:34] <larson9999> Hawkwind: well there are some *.log files i thought maybe it was one of those.
[11:34] <skreech> Hawkwind: It makes my xearth stop rotating
[11:36] <larson9999> Hawkwind: the updates i did today aren't in messages
[11:40] <pielgrzym> fritsch: what does video overlay option give?
[11:40] <archangel_> hey can I network 2 computers by using a male to male usb cable?
[11:43] <karl_> anyone about to solve a quick kbfx prob
[11:43] <archangel_> no one is alive here karl
[11:43] <archangel_> run man
[11:43] <archangel_> run
[11:43] <karl_> ok i guess its late
[11:43] <archangel_> something in here killed them
[11:43] <archangel_> and its still here
[11:44] <ivan`> will OS X wipe my linux bootloader?
[11:44] <karl_> anyone know how to get the menu button to load on a single click
[11:44] <karl_> currently does not work very well
[11:44] <karl_> using kubuntu, have to click on the menu twice slowly for it to work
[11:44] <archangel_> ? you ahve to double click your menu?   kmenu?
[11:44] <karl_> yeah
[11:45] <Hawkwind> ivan`: Might ask that in the #OSX channel
[11:45] <talios> abattoir: 'lo
[11:45] <archangel_> hmm
[11:45] <karl_> have to click twice slowley for it to work
[11:45] <abattoir> mkpaa: you have the old xserver-xorg... deb right?
[11:45] <karl_> some times works on 1 click
[11:45] <archangel_> interesting
[11:45] <archangel_> how fast is your pc?
[11:45] <talios> anyone here got a URL for an older xserver-core package I can downgrade my broken box too?  I don't have a copy locally :(
[11:45] <karl_> at the moment not so quick
[11:45] <abattoir> mkpaa: is there any way you could give it to talios ?
[11:45] <karl_> running duel screen on laptop
[11:45] <karl_> so performace is suffering
[11:46] <archangel_> cpu speed?
[11:46] <karl_> 1.6
[11:46] <Hawkwind> <-(  mkpaa  )->   for those curious about downgrading, sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_1%3a1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb does the trick
[11:46] <archangel_> hmmm
[11:46] <Hawkwind> Ohhh, he doesn't have a copy locally
[11:47] <talios> I only have 10.3_i386
[11:47] <DAaaMan64> hey can someone help me restore xgl?  I will do fresh install then xgl will crash and I won't get it back.  Is this a normal problem?
[11:48] <ballchalk> how do i mount an image file?
[11:48] <ballchalk> iso image?
[11:48] <abattoir> fritsch: do you have the old xserver-xorg-core package? 10.1 ?
[11:48] <fritsch> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/57158
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> Hawkwind: downgrading sudo ??
[11:48] <fritsch> mkpaa: m-lund pleas comment on this
[11:48] <fritsch> Has sombedy the old packages availabe?
[11:48] <abattoir> talios too ^^^
[11:48] <archangel_> how is the performance everywhere else  karl
[11:48] <Hawkwind> TheGateKeeper: No, that's for downgrading X since the current X seems broken for a lot of users
[11:49] <abattoir> fritsch: mkpaa said he has it
[11:49] <fritsch> mkpaa: set it online ;-)
[11:49] <karl_> not to bad, working between screen is a bit slow but i am running quite a few apps
[11:49] <karl_> seems like it has a problem getting focus
[11:49] <skreech> talios: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:49] <abattoir> ok, i think i have a 10.1
[11:49] <abattoir> xserver-xorg-core_1%3a1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb looks right?
[11:50] <karl_> you have 2 double click slowley to ensure it works, to quick and it does not register any thing
[11:50] <archangel_> video card using extra power the 2nd monitor
[11:50] <karl_> yeah, from a laptop
[11:50] <fritsch> abattoir: 10.2 was the versoin before?
[11:50] <archangel_> did you try the menu with just 1 monitor?  (kind of a long shot, but..)
[11:51] <abattoir> fritsch: its the version which mkpaa says works for him(or her)
[11:51] <fritsch> abattoir: could you set it online ...
[11:51] <abattoir> now to find a way to upload it
[11:51] <karl_> i dont think its a performace issue, even when you leave the mouse over the menu for a while and then single click it regularly does not work
[11:51] <fritsch> dcc it to me, i can host it at the uni ;-)
[11:51] <karl_> it just flashes quickley
[11:52] <karl_> so it seems to be registering the click ok
[11:52] <TheGateKeeper> Hawkwind: after an update, or basic install from CD?
[11:52] <archangel_> what about right clicking?
[11:52] <Hawkwind> TheGateKeeper: After an update.  Not sure how long you been in the channel, but scroll back through the buffer and you'll see several have issues
[11:52] <jujimufu> !wengophone
[11:52] <ubotu> wengophone: SIP-based software telephone with video and chat features. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99+svn4511-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 3309 kB, installed size 7660 kB
[11:53] <jujimufu> does anyone know if wengophone is compatible with Skype?
[11:53] <talios> mmm i found 10_i386 but not 10.1_i386.
[11:53] <abattoir> talios: it should be up in a few mins.
[11:54] <talios> k
[11:54] <archangel_> ?
[11:55] <skreech> jujimufu: Nothing is compatible with skype officialy but i think they have hacked some stuff into wengophone
[11:55] <skreech>  Daniel is a pretty big upholder of skype's approach but against the closed source
[11:55] <TheGateKeeper> Hawkwind: ok thanks for the info I saw the odd question, was a bit surprised as (k)ubuntu usually does such a nice job of configuring X, just been having a little play with arch linux, and it would have been nice to have the autoconfig program/script that (k)ubuntu uses
[11:57] <fritsch> abattoir: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb <- it is online
[11:57] <fritsch> abattoir: stop transfair
[11:58] <talios> fritsch: cheers :)
[11:58] <abattoir> hmmm now why isnt my brain working properly? :P
[11:59] <fritsch> this fixes it!
[11:59] <talios> now lets hope my "reconfigure of x" didn't screw the pooch as well :P
[11:59] <ubuntu> hi
[11:59] <abattoir> fritsch, talios: ok, guys, have to go now...
[11:59] <abattoir> fritsch: glad to know it works :)
[11:59] <talios> abattoir: thanks
[12:00] <abattoir> and talios: hope it works for you too
[12:00] <fritsch> abattoir: thx!
[12:00] <fritsch> talios: m-lund: please reply to the bug report
[12:01] <abattoir> fritsch, talios: no problem :)
[12:02] <talios> fritsch: will do..
[12:02] <fritsch> m-lund: ?
[12:03] <ugly_> i'm trying to find a list of mirrrors so i can download upgrades faster, the security mirror is only allowing me 5kbs and i'm on 2mbit???
[12:03] <talios> mmm, i think my reconfigure of x poked something, lets look at this.
[12:03] <talios> or something else :(
[12:04] <fritsch> talios: what is no working anymore?
[12:04] <fritsch> talios: pastebin your xorg.conf
[12:05] <jujimufu> !plone
[12:05] <ubotu> plone: content management system based on zope and cmf. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.2-2 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[12:05] <jujimufu> !drupal
[12:05] <ubotu> drupal: fully-featured content management/discussion engine. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.5.8-1 (dapper), package size 476 kB, installed size 1944 kB
[12:06] <skreech> argh It's back to looking for the BusID PCI:1:0:1
[12:07] <talios> fritsch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21354
[12:07] <looktj> command on gnome to install kubuntu
[12:07] <fritsch> talios: this is the bug we are talking about
[12:07] <Hawkwind> looktj: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:07] <fritsch> talios: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[12:08] <texas319> hey all
[12:08] <fritsch> talios: sudo dpkg -i http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[12:08] <looktj> Hawkwind i perfer aptitude, thanks for command
[12:08] <fritsch> talios: sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[12:08] <talios> fritsch: hrm, i did - and its a different error to the one I had before.. mmm
[12:08] <fritsch> the one you pasted was the same error