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johnlittlehttp://www.johnlittle.org/12:47
jendanow that's serious spam, johnlittle :-D12:50
johnlittle?12:50
jendaBTw, I made a LP product for ubuntuvideo...12:50
jendamaybe it emailed you?12:51
johnlittleLP?12:51
johnlittlelaunchpad?12:51
johnlittleah no email here12:51
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johnlittleok I see it.12:52
johnlittleUbuntu and ubuntu video made news in israel: http://net.nana.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=391090&sid=12712:56
johnlittleno idea what it says but they link to both and captured shots from a lot of the videos12:56
johnlittlethats a huge site..ranked in the top 500 by alexa12:57
jendawow12:58
johnlittleI just hope people start making something besides xgl videos..im going to run out in a couple of weeks12:59
johnlittleif the pace doesn't pick up. I think it will though. People are emailing and saying they will make new vids.12:59
lophytejohnlittle: I'll be sure not to make xgl videos :)01:08
johnlittlelophyte: lol thx01:15
lophytejohnlittle: you already saw a couple of ideas for our videos... they're pretty creative\01:15
johnlittleyeah i'm looking forward to seeing those01:15
johnlittledid you see the suse videos on my blog?01:17
lophytenope01:17
johnlittlehttp://www.johnlittle.org/01:17
johnlittlesuse is doing great stuff with video01:17
lophytefrom this video project, I'm hoping to initiate a Toronto team, and (hopefully) have similar success as nixternal has been having in Chicago01:21
lophyteI was reading something he wrote on the mailing list about it and it was inspirational01:21
lophyteLOL that date with SuSE video is awesome01:24
johnlittleYou can definitely find some ubuntu users in toronto...it shoudl be ripe for a ubuntu charge01:25
Burgundavialophyte: have you ended up meeting up with anybody from toronto? Is there anything I can help you with, as your Loco Team leader?01:25
lophyteBurgundavia: a few of us are meeting on Wednesday to discuss this video project01:26
lophyteI'm essentially just making Ubuntu Canada more local.. that's my goal01:28
Burgundaviathat works01:28
BurgundaviaI need to figure out a good Canada wide project, but I am still stuck01:28
lophytehow about a national grassroots marketing day?01:29
lophytepick a day, organize teams by city, and have them go out to the streets and market Ubuntu as much as they can01:30
johnlittlegrassroots marketing = selling weed in canada ;p01:30
lophyteLOL01:30
Burgundaviawe could do that on SFC01:31
BurgundaviaSFD, rather01:31
lophyteSFD?01:31
Burgundaviasoftware freedom day01:32
lophyteah.. when's that?01:32
Burgundaviasept, early01:32
johnlittle16th01:33
Burgundaviathere we go01:33
lophytehrm.. that doesn't give us much time01:34
johnlittlepartnering with a LUG might be a good way to jump start everything01:35
nixternalhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6054183834057243507&q=apple+keynote&hl=en01:36
johnlittlesteve jobs scares me01:38
nixternallol01:39
johnlittlevery cool presentation01:39
nixternalanybody create a bug #2 and include this guy ;)01:41
jendahaha, rofl :-D01:41
jendaIt's a lot better than Steve Balmer, you know;)01:42
nixternal50% of 1.33m units sold were to new users01:42
johnlittleif i watch 2 more minutes of this i'll have to rush out and buy a macbook and black turtleneck01:42
nixternaltheir commercials work, because deep down, apple sucks just like microsoft ;)01:42
jendamuhehe01:42
nixternalwhoa, no more power macs01:43
nixternaloooh...dude im drooling on hardwoare ;)01:43
johnlittleyeah..its nice01:45
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johnlittle;p01:50
nixternalmuhahha01:50
nixternaldude, you will never ever see me using an apple os, but i will use apple hardware w/o a doubt01:50
nixternalas soon as this new pro comes out..im getting one01:51
johnlittlesame old story for me..i love the apple hardware but i truly hate the OS01:51
johnlittlei like these: http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/ultra20/01:53
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lophyteBurgundavia: you still around?02:23
Burgundavialophyte: yep02:23
lophyteBurgundavia: you wanna try and organize that for SFD?02:23
lophyteI'll help out02:23
Burgundaviasure. I know the local lug is doing something02:23
BurgundaviaI need to collect a list of lug email addys, basically02:23
MadpilotBurgundavia, the local lug is doing something aside from argue & drink beer?!02:23
BurgundaviaMadpilot: they are piggy-backing with BB&C and the photo people02:24
Madpilotcool02:25
lophyteBurgundavia: I'll see what the Toronto guys say and we'll go from there... maybe you should post something on the website, and to the mailing list?02:28
Burgundaviasure, but not tonight02:28
lophytealright02:28
lophytethat leaves us with roughly 3 weeks02:29
lophyteI'm not sure if that's enough time.. we'd need CDs02:29
lophyteit'd take longer than that to order a batch of them02:29
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Burgundaviayep02:36
Burgundaviawe can get some in earlier, if we talk to the rigth peope02:37
nixternalhey Burgundavia, just so you know, make it quick...as there have been some recent issues with shipit02:37
nixternalthey are backed up big time..as i was getting mine for Ubuntu Chicago within 7 days every rip..and the last batch i ordered they called me and said, they were having issues and were kind of backordered02:38
Burgundaviaright02:38
BurgundaviaSFD is probably creating the issues02:39
nixternali have the ladies name if you don't yet02:39
nixternalvery well could have been02:39
nixternaland i bet it was actually02:39
nixternaldidn't even think of that02:39
Burgundaviamarilize? yes, I have met her personaly02:39
nixternalok cool02:39
nixternalshe is really nice02:39
nixternalhttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/files/44501-DSCN4758.JPG02:42
lophyteBurgundavia: keep me posted about that so I can order a batch for the Toronto team02:45
Burgundaviaok, will do02:45
Kamping_Kaiseris the opencd still ubuntu live ?02:45
lophytenixternal: what kinds of activities have you been doing with Ubuntu Chicago on a regular basis?02:46
nixternaleverything02:46
nixternaldemos, install fests and what not02:46
lophytewhere do you do the demos?02:47
lophyteI'm trying to get ideas for the Toronto team.. I have a few but it can't hurt to have more02:47
nixternalcomputer shows, festivles and what not02:47
lophyteahh.. how much does it usually cost for a booth at a computer show?02:48
Burgundavialots, but for a non-profit, not too much02:49
nixternali think we pay for 3 tables + 1 free for like $150 i think02:49
Burgundaviayou can sometimes even get them for nothing02:49
lophyteah, that's not too bad02:49
lophyteif the group pools money together02:49
nixternaland we setup a machine for each distro, and then a gaming rig, and an xgl rig02:49
nixternalactually..they just hammered our local show, and the guy stopped it..it was a great show, as we would do one day at the booth, and then on sunday we would do the install fests02:50
lophyteI wanted to do a street team.. basically find a busy street corner and hand out CDs02:50
jendadamn I should go to sleep...02:50
nixternalwe do that quite a bit actually02:50
lophytedoes it work well?02:50
nixternalsleep is for the dead02:50
jendaGood night ;)02:50
nixternalg'nite jendapoo02:50
nixternal;)02:50
lophytenixternal: thanks for the tips.. I'll have to see where things go with the Toronto team02:54
Burgundavialophyte: I emailed marilize asking if they were backed up02:57
lophyteBurgundavia: alright.. what do we do if they are?02:58
Burgundaviawe order some02:58
lophyteyeah... we don't *have* to have this national marketing day on SFD.. it'd just be nice02:59
lophyteif we can't get CDs by then, we can always schedule for a later date03:00
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rjianhello people04:02
rjianhello Burgundavia and Elkbuntu04:15
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Burgundaviahey rjian04:15
rjianall people are BZ here.. hehe04:17
MadpilotBZ?04:18
rjianhello madpilot04:21
johnlittlehttp://www.deviantart.com/deviation/37743373/04:28
Burgundaviajohnlittle: what font is that?04:37
Burgundaviathe "Human for windows" part04:37
johnlittleI don't know..it's nice04:37
rjiannice design04:39
rjianwhos design is that?04:40
johnlittlethe author is on the page04:43
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Madpilotjohnlittle, interesting,,, but almost obscene, tarting XP up to look like a quality OS like that...05:15
Madpilot;)05:15
johnlittleagreed..it's a good sign though I think05:16
rjian8-)05:16
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MadpilotCthulhubuntu: Linux for Devouring Human Souls06:18
BurgundaviaMadpilot: nice06:18
johnlittlelol06:21
johnlittleburgundavia: forgot to tell you - great job at LW06:22
Burgundaviajohnlittle: it was fun06:23
Burgundaviamy throat is so hoarse from talking06:23
johnlittleI bet...never been to one but would love to go one day06:23
johnlittleI've been looking for video with you guys in it but no luck yet06:24
johnlittlephotos up at os news: http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1551806:28
Burgundaviahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08yvKUW-9Bc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Echaser%2Ecom%2Eau%2Findex%2Ephp06:31
Burgundaviathose are terrible pictures06:32
BurgundaviaI really was as tired as a look06:32
BurgundaviaI pretty much ran the whole week on nothing06:32
johnlittleHow much support did you get from canonical?06:34
nixternalnone, cuz he was pimpin' gnome ;)06:34
nixternalhehe06:35
johnlittleThought he was reppin ubuntu in some capacity too06:35
nixternalof course...he always reps ubuntu ;)06:36
Burgundaviait was the GNOME booth, which just happened to only have Ubuntu and DiscoverStation on showcase06:36
johnlittlehaha06:36
johnlittleso was there an ubuntu booth?06:37
Burgundaviatwo actually06:37
johnlittlestaffed with canonical peeps?06:37
Burgundaviaone with canonical in the main area and in the .org, the california team06:37
nixternalubuntu california i think06:37
BurgundaviaUWN talks about it06:37
nixternalheh06:38
johnlittlei retained nothing from that 4am editing session lol06:38
johnlittleburgundavia: nice prank..wouldnt want to get caught doing that tho06:39
Burgundaviawhat, in the GNOME booth?06:40
johnlittlenah the video you posted06:40
johnlittlemr. terrorist06:40
Burgundaviaright06:40
nixternalwhich one is better, easyubuntu or automatix?06:41
nixternalactually...probably doesn't matter..as i bet neither are ready for edgy06:41
Burgundavianeither06:42
Burgundaviasee CommonCustomizations06:42
nixternalheh, already had that open ;)06:43
Burgundaviathat is all you need to know06:44
Burgundaviathese are the third party hacks you are looking for06:44
johnlittlebtw I killed slab...probably great for a lot of people but too limited for me.06:46
Burgundaviatoo limited how?06:47
johnlittleMaybe not limited but too many clicks required if you do lots of system and administrative stuff through the menus. I don't want to pop up additional windows to pick an app06:48
johnlittleI like my GNOME drawer for common apps anyway06:51
johnlittleIf I was going to setup a relative with ubuntu I'd probably install slab. I think it's an easy transition for Windows users06:54
Burgundaviaright, except it all the issues of the start menu06:55
Burgundaviawell, maybe not all of them06:55
BurgundaviaI wouldn't do anything. Simply tell them about the menu is different. They will take about 30 secs to realize the difference and then love it06:55
Burgundaviawe have to stop assuming Windows users are not willing to change06:55
johnlittleI support 34.000 windows users at work. Many of them are not willing to change anything. Point taken though06:56
Burgundaviawhip|lwe supports 2800 and they get the default desktop06:57
Burgundaviausers will use what they get, in a corporate environment06:57
johnlittleYep but pushing change can be extremely difficult. esp in a non-technical environment06:58
johnlittlewe move an icon and it can be months of frustration06:58
johnlittlebut im in healthcare - one of the worst places for that kind of stuff by far06:58
johnlittleI had a far easier time with systems changes at places like NASA...there was resistance but not incompetence07:00
johnlittleanyone read hebrew?07:03
nixternali can barely read english07:03
johnlittlelol07:03
Burgundaviahttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1403466#post1403466 <-- please go fill this out07:04
nixternali refuse to07:05
nixternalgnome games bah07:05
nixternal;)07:05
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nixternalls07:05
nixternaloop..wrong keyboard ;)07:05
johnlittlei answered but it probably isn't the feedback youre looking for07:06
Burgundavianone is perfectly acceptable answer07:07
johnlittleis there a link you can point to that lists games that might be added? some kind of master list of gnome games?07:07
Burgundaviano, not currently07:11
Burgundaviayou can propose any game that is GTK07:11
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MadpilotBurgundavia, I predict you're going to be spending a lot of time on that list shooting down non-GTK games ;)07:13
johnlittleOMG IS UT2004 GTK?!?!!07:14
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BurgundaviaI did mention GTK only07:17
Burgundaviaand I don't care what people say, I will do a filter on it anyway07:17
MadpilotLord Dog, there's some stupid stuff in that Edgy forum...07:25
Madpilotanyway, I spammed/contributed to your games thread07:26
Burgundaviayou confirmed what I thought07:28
Burgundavianobody plays half that crap07:28
BurgundaviaI think popcon only does packages, which makes it hard for this07:28
Madpilotum, the plural of anecdote isn't "data", esp. when you have only one or two opinions so far ;)07:29
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Burgundaviaright07:32
Burgundaviaanyway, I have to crash07:34
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poningruyarr07:52
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rjianElkbuntu: u there?11:27
rjiananybody here?11:28
Madpilotno11:28
Madpilot;)11:28
rjianhello madpilot.. can u give me the links on the news of ubuntu?11:29
Madpilotrjian, fridge.ubuntu.com is the best place to start11:29
elkbuntuhere now11:29
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matthewrevellsilbs: Hi Jane12:04
elkbuntuwb matthewrevell :)12:09
matthewrevellelkbuntu: hey :)12:10
elkbuntuis all well?12:10
matthewrevellelkbuntu: Not bad thanks.12:11
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johnlittlematthewrevell: ping03:08
matthewrevelljohnlittle: HI03:10
johnlittlewb..can you approve emails to -news?03:11
matthewrevelljohnlittle: Nah, not me, I'm afraid.03:11
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nixternaljohnlittle: why do you need something approved?03:31
nixternalyou got the bounce saying your email is awaiting approval?03:31
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johnlittlehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meZcg4EHefU06:37
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matthewrevellhe10:13
matthewrevellhello10:13
Burgworkhello again matthewrevell10:14
matthewrevellhey :)10:16
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