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BlueT_ | @shcedule | 04:48 |
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BlueT_ | @schedule | 04:48 |
Ubugtu | Schedule for Etc/UTC: 22 Aug 16:00: Community Council | 23 Aug 12:00: Edubuntu | 29 Aug 20:00: Technical Board | 30 Aug 20:00: Edubuntu | 31 Aug 15:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 04:48 |
BlueT_ | @schedule taipei | 04:48 |
Ubugtu | Schedule for Asia/Taipei: 23 Aug 00:00: Community Council | 23 Aug 20:00: Edubuntu | 30 Aug 04:00: Technical Board | 31 Aug 04:00: Edubuntu | 31 Aug 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 04:48 |
licio | @schedule Sao_Paulo | 04:49 |
Ubugtu | Schedule for America/Sao_Paulo: 22 Aug 13:00: Community Council | 23 Aug 09:00: Edubuntu | 29 Aug 17:00: Technical Board | 30 Aug 17:00: Edubuntu | 31 Aug 12:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 04:49 |
DBO | @schedule detroit | 05:07 |
Ubugtu | Schedule for America/Detroit: 22 Aug 12:00: Community Council | 23 Aug 08:00: Edubuntu | 29 Aug 16:00: Technical Board | 30 Aug 16:00: Edubuntu | 31 Aug 11:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 05:07 |
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Arbiter | @schedule Rome | 08:15 |
Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/Rome: 22 Aug 18:00: Community Council | 23 Aug 14:00: Edubuntu | 29 Aug 22:00: Technical Board | 30 Aug 22:00: Edubuntu | 31 Aug 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 08:15 |
Hobbsee | @schedule sydney | 08:15 |
Ubugtu | Schedule for Australia/Sydney: 23 Aug 02:00: Community Council | 23 Aug 22:00: Edubuntu | 30 Aug 06:00: Technical Board | 31 Aug 06:00: Edubuntu | 01 Sep 01:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 08:15 |
Hobbsee | Arbiter: 2 am? that's worse. | 08:16 |
Hobbsee | Arbiter: i'd forgotten that it was the tech board that was at 6 | 08:16 |
nixternal | @chicago | 08:17 |
nixternal | haha | 08:17 |
nixternal | @schedule chicago | 08:17 |
Ubugtu | Schedule for America/Chicago: 22 Aug 11:00: Community Council | 23 Aug 07:00: Edubuntu | 29 Aug 15:00: Technical Board | 30 Aug 15:00: Edubuntu | 31 Aug 10:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 08:17 |
nixternal | thats about wakey time for me ;) | 08:17 |
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Hobbsee | nixternal: i would stay up, but i'm not on holidays anymore. | 08:19 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: which makes meetings hard to get to, when they're in the middle of the night, and i've got to be alive the next day | 08:19 |
Hobbsee | hey jenda | 08:20 |
nixternal | ya, im back to school as well, again with my old arse ;) | 08:20 |
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nixternal | hiya jenda | 08:20 |
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Fujitsu | But then again, I'm on the wrong side of the world :P | 08:21 |
jenda | :-D | 08:21 |
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Fujitsu | They should. | 08:21 |
Fujitsu | 2am for every meeting isn't ideal. | 08:21 |
Hobbsee | jenda: they used to | 08:22 |
Hobbsee | Fujitsu: indeed. we australians get the bad end of the stick. | 08:22 |
Fujitsu | Yeah... | 08:22 |
Hobbsee | Fujitsu: kubuntu meetings we win though - because they seem to want me there, so stick it in a time where i can be there | 08:22 |
Fujitsu | Heheh. | 08:23 |
Fujitsu | You are sort of critical to them :P | 08:23 |
Hobbsee | Fujitsu: well...i'm only one of 6 who needs to be there - ie they can have any 3 out of those six there. | 08:24 |
Fujitsu | I guess. | 08:24 |
Hobbsee | if i've got half the agenda like usual, then yeah, i do need to be there :P | 08:24 |
Fujitsu | Probably! | 08:24 |
jenda | Fujitsu: 2 AM is a great time for a meeting :) It's just before I go to bed ;) | 08:25 |
Fujitsu | I'd be decapitated by my parents if I were to stay up until 3am or so! | 08:25 |
jenda | Is that standard procedure in australia? Amazing. | 08:27 |
Hobbsee | Fujitsu: same here. actually, they dont get quite so annoyed now. | 08:27 |
ajmitch | Hobbsee: I think they've given up on trying to get you to change :) | 08:28 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: point. | 08:28 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: i've almost gotten around kerfew too :P | 08:28 |
Fujitsu | Well, I'm not exactly old :P | 08:31 |
Fujitsu | *curfew | 08:31 |
Fujitsu | Ah. I've got a librep merge to do again... | 08:31 |
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Hobbsee | hehe. again. | 08:33 |
Fujitsu | Yes. | 08:34 |
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Fujitsu | And I've got 5 others that I did a while ago which I never bothered to request to be uploaded >_< | 08:34 |
Hobbsee | do they build now? | 08:34 |
Fujitsu | I haven't checked, but I'll do so now. | 08:34 |
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jenda | See y'all | 08:35 |
Fujitsu | Pfft. | 08:35 |
Fujitsu | Real life. | 08:35 |
Fujitsu | What a silly concept. | 08:35 |
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nixternal | @time | 09:53 |
Ubugtu | Current time in Etc/UTC: August 21 2006, 07:53:05 - Next meeting: Community Council in 1 day | 09:53 |
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jordi | where's og? | 06:10 |
raphink | in brazil I think | 06:11 |
raphink | :) | 06:11 |
jordi | great :) | 06:11 |
danilos | I think he's not, I think he's in USA :) | 06:11 |
carlos | yeah, he's in USA | 06:12 |
carlos | but not yet connected... | 06:12 |
raphink | oh ok :) | 06:12 |
carlos | let's wait a bit... | 06:12 |
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GnuKemist | carlos hi | 06:16 |
carlos | GnuKemist: hi, Og? | 06:16 |
GnuKemist | carlos yup | 06:16 |
carlos | ok | 06:16 |
carlos | let's start | 06:16 |
GnuKemist | carlos conected from work ;) | 06:16 |
carlos | jordi, danilos? | 06:16 |
carlos | GnuKemist: hmm, I thought this time was better for you to connect from home.... | 06:16 |
carlos | anyway, you are here ;-) | 06:17 |
GnuKemist | carlos hehehe | 06:17 |
jordi | hello | 06:17 |
GnuKemist | carlos I am connected from work via ssh | 06:17 |
carlos | I see | 06:17 |
GnuKemist | hi jordi | 06:17 |
carlos | so | 06:17 |
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carlos | GnuKemist: We (danilos, jordi and I) had a meeting last week | 06:18 |
carlos | and from that meeting, we got the document I sent you | 06:18 |
GnuKemist | k | 06:18 |
carlos | we think that more or less those are the main tasks that such position should cover | 06:18 |
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GnuKemist | carlos and it does coincide with what I expected as well | 06:19 |
carlos | GnuKemist: Is there anything else you think we should add? or it's a 100% match ? | 06:20 |
GnuKemist | carlos it seems to be right on the money | 06:20 |
carlos | hmm | 06:22 |
carlos | then... | 06:22 |
carlos | GnuKemist: do you want that we explain better any part of that document before going to the Ubuntu CC with it? | 06:23 |
GnuKemist | carlos you followed the thread about upstream translations, right? | 06:23 |
GnuKemist | carlos am asking b/c I think it pretty much shows what I intend to do | 06:24 |
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GnuKemist | carlos and is a matter of checking if that is the same direction you want to go | 06:24 |
carlos | GnuKemist: well, I'm a bit behind on that thread (and others) but more or less I know the problematic there | 06:24 |
danilos | GnuKemist: upstream coordination is just one of things to do :) | 06:24 |
GnuKemist | danilos right | 06:24 |
danilos | GnuKemist: and I wonder about what priorities would you give to each of the tasks we mentioned | 06:25 |
danilos | i.e. what's more important | 06:25 |
GnuKemist | carlos danilos I have written a few entried about translation procedures as well | 06:25 |
danilos | in your opinion, of course :) | 06:25 |
GnuKemist | danilos I think that since Edgy is right around the corner, it would be too soon to get things done the way I expect | 06:25 |
GnuKemist | danilos it will take a lot of meetings and flexibility to get eveyone into the same train | 06:26 |
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GnuKemist | danilos so I would prioritize getting Rosetta to attend the users' needs | 06:26 |
danilos | GnuKemist: sure, I'm not talking about that short of a timeframe (we even already have set our goals for Rosetta as well) | 06:26 |
GnuKemist | danilos and get some SOPs for the team leaders | 06:27 |
GnuKemist | danilos as far as how to "run" their teams | 06:27 |
carlos | GnuKemist: well, is better to start planning what should be done after edgy + 1 | 06:27 |
GnuKemist | danilos and manuals for standardizing translations, etc | 06:27 |
GnuKemist | carlos sure | 06:27 |
carlos | because we usually plan our work a month after release | 06:27 |
danilos | GnuKemist: SOPs? | 06:28 |
GnuKemist | carlos I would say a boot camp with representatives from major localization teams should get together | 06:28 |
GnuKemist | danilos standardized operation manuals | 06:28 |
GnuKemist | danilos or protocoles | 06:28 |
carlos | hmm, that would be a good idea, not sure if it would be possible, but we could try | 06:29 |
danilos | GnuKemist: ok, thanks | 06:29 |
GnuKemist | carlos sort of along the same thing that happened in Paris | 06:29 |
GnuKemist | carlos but for localization | 06:29 |
danilos | I'm somewhat unsure about boot camp idea, it sounds impossible | 06:29 |
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GnuKemist | carlos it is my oppinion that it is hard to properly convey ideas through emails, irc | 06:30 |
carlos | well, I think we talk about GNOME, KDE, GNU, OpenOffice, Firefox and Ubuntu | 06:30 |
GnuKemist | danilos I think you're right but I think it is worth a shot | 06:30 |
jordi | boot camp idea? | 06:30 |
jordi | I've lost that bit somewhere | 06:30 |
GnuKemist | carlos yes | 06:30 |
jordi | oh | 06:30 |
jordi | ok, I see it | 06:30 |
GnuKemist | jordi think like the meeting that took place in Paris | 06:31 |
danilos | jordi: you lazy bum :P | 06:31 |
GnuKemist | hey sfair ;) | 06:31 |
jordi | hey I somehow skipped that line :) | 06:31 |
GnuKemist | hehe | 06:31 |
GnuKemist | anyhow | 06:31 |
sfair | hi my friend GnuKemist :-) | 06:31 |
carlos | GnuKemist: I'm not quite sure I agree with what you said in one of your emails: "I have a really tough "sell" to | 06:31 |
carlos | convince people to perform translations via Rosetta and not directly | 06:31 |
carlos | with the organized sub-groups such as Gnome or KDE" | 06:31 |
jordi | GnuKemist: I see. I think that's difficult to make it happen though | 06:31 |
GnuKemist | I have some great tallented people who would support me in developing some manuals, etc | 06:31 |
carlos | GnuKemist: we should offer them Rosetta to do translations but keep their current organization | 06:32 |
GnuKemist | jordi absolutely... but I'm up to the challenge | 06:32 |
GnuKemist | carlos I guess we could find a happy medium | 06:32 |
GnuKemist | carlos thus the boot camp ideia | 06:32 |
carlos | so they just have Rosetta as another tool to do translations | 06:32 |
danilos | yeah, I agree with carlos: we just need to allow for different workflows, and they will come :) | 06:32 |
GnuKemist | idea | 06:32 |
GnuKemist | what we need is to strike the right balance | 06:33 |
jordi | sure, but that leaves us with the merging in svn problem, calros | 06:33 |
carlos | and our target should be that it's so good that everyone wants to use it, but always without forcing them to switch the way they want to work | 06:33 |
GnuKemist | carlos absolutely right | 06:33 |
GnuKemist | maybe we could try a Skype-meeting | 06:34 |
danilos | anyway, lets not get into Rosetta future plans right now :) | 06:34 |
GnuKemist | danilos ok | 06:34 |
GnuKemist | danilos but I must tell you, this is my holy grail | 06:34 |
carlos | yeah, this is just a brief meeting before giving our ideas to the Ubuntu CC | 06:34 |
GnuKemist | ;) | 06:34 |
GnuKemist | I basically want to see Rosetta as the main repository for localization par to none | 06:35 |
carlos | GnuKemist: we too ;-) | 06:35 |
GnuKemist | all distros would benefit from it | 06:35 |
carlos | but we have a long way to reach that goal | 06:35 |
GnuKemist | but better yet, the global community would benefit the most | 06:35 |
GnuKemist | carlos +1 | 06:36 |
GnuKemist | carlos that is why I'm in this for the long haul | 06:36 |
carlos | ok so, Do we agree to send that document directly to the CC ? | 06:36 |
GnuKemist | +1 | 06:36 |
jordi | go for it | 06:36 |
danilos | sure carlos | 06:36 |
carlos | ok | 06:37 |
GnuKemist | anything you guys need from me? | 06:37 |
carlos | I think that's all | 06:37 |
carlos | thank you very much | 06:37 |
carlos | let's see what the CC decides on this subjet ;-) | 06:37 |
GnuKemist | I for instance need to be introduced to the key people from each group | 06:37 |
GnuKemist | carlos danilos jordi ok... so I guess I'll go grab lunch now ;) | 06:39 |
carlos | GnuKemist: ok, thanks fro comming | 06:39 |
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GnuKemist | carlos my pleasure | 06:39 |
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Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/Rome: 22 Aug 18:00: Community Council | 23 Aug 14:00: Edubuntu | 29 Aug 22:00: Technical Board | 30 Aug 22:00: Edubuntu | 31 Aug 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10:34 |
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