=== Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SEJeff [n=test@74.129.168.9] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:17] morning [12:17] Hobbsee: you're up far too early [12:18] morning all [12:18] ajmitch: i'm at uni, too === Hobbsee notes that the "i wonder if this way to uni will be quicker" way usually *isnt* [12:18] yay for 20 min drives that take 40. [12:18] wonderful === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-213-192.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pyrotica [n=Sunergos@213-250.207-68.se.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pyrotica [n=Sunergos@213-250.207-68.se.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:49] wahoo, I've got -1% battery left :-) [12:49] LaserJock: hah! [12:49] LaserJock: find a powerpoint? [12:49] hm? [12:50] if you've got -1% battery left? [12:50] LaserJock: plug your laptop in [12:51] it is [12:51] it hibernated [12:51] and now it says fully charged [12:51] weird === bluefoxicy [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:00] I still don't have DMA... does anyone else not have DMA? [01:00] erf. === bluefoxicy -> #-devel === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@CPE-124-178-120-201.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@ppp18-57.lns2.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:28] hmm anyone got any idea on this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21246 i had permissions set to 777 and it still happened :( [01:30] Hi, I'm tring to patch metacity following the guidelines in MOTU School https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PatchingSources. But the debian/rules file in metacity has no patch section, it does however include this file /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/simple-patchsys.mk which have "post-patches, apply-patches and debian/stamp-patched" sections, which one of these should I use instead ? [01:31] TLE: you don't need to modify debian/rules since it's alreayd using a patch system [01:33] ok, but then, can I apply them manually or should I use one of the patch managing tools ? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:34] you can use cdbs-edit-patch for creating it [01:34] thanks === trpr_ [n=ftg2@69.92.30.201] has joined #ubuntu-motu === anibal [i=ams@ns1.mssinc.biz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trpr [n=ftg2@69.92.30.201] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:56] <\sh> moins [01:56] hi \sh [01:57] back later :) [01:57] hi \sh [01:58] <\sh> oh wow...I need to get up in one hour... [01:59] hey/bye ajmitch [01:59] hey \sh [02:00] <\sh> moins hub, how's life? [02:01] \sh: it is ok [02:01] could be better [02:03] <\sh> hub: agreed :) === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh [n=shermann@xdsl-84-44-133-74.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fbond|away is now known as fbond [02:26] bddebian, hi [02:27] bddebian: I'm using dh_installdebconf, shouldn't that take care of any debconf-related stuff? It was before... [02:34] Does any of you have time for a newbie source code patching question? === welshbyte [n=welshbyt@cpc3-cwma2-0-0-cust276.swan.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:49] TLE: Ask away, we'll give it a shot [02:49] fbond: It should but lintian is still complaining :-( [02:49] Heya welshbyte [02:50] bddebian, got it sorted: I was running dh_installdebconf after dh_installdeb [02:50] is there a way to tell pbuilder to grab packages without setting up an apt repository? [02:50] ello bddebian [02:50] fbond: Ah, nice [02:51] hub: don't think so, although setting up a simple local repo will only take you ... an hour or two [02:51] hub: ? [02:51] unless you've done it before [02:51] Oh [02:51] fbond: an hour or two. gotcha [02:51] :) [02:51] maybe not, if you read fast [02:52] bddebian: yeah, I'm packaging a package that needs a library I have packaged but that is not yet in the archive [02:52] hub: Aye, sorry, I misunderstood you at first :) [02:52] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2905 <- that one I need to provide [02:52] bddebian, still one issue that i haven't managed to dodge: lintian complains about no-debconf-config [02:53] i'm not sure what a debconf config would contain, or the name of the file that would contain it... [02:55] fbond: Hmm. I'm not fluent at all in debconf stuff :-( === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:56] yeah, I've never messed with it before either... === pschulz01 [n=paul@eth6067.sa.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:01] ahh... === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:06] Ack, diacanvas2 is broken [03:10] bddebian, ok, all debconf issues should be sorted now, sorry about that === fbond is now known as fbond|away [03:10] I'll check back in at revu tomorrow [03:10] good night [03:10] :) [03:15] ok. I'm trying to create a true patch for metacity using cdbs-edit-patch. When I run it with "cdbs-edit-patch 020-twinview-modification.patch" it completes alright, and I get to the edit subshell, but it also gives this error "make[1] : *** No rule to create target 'distclean'." (Maybe not exact wording I'm translating it from Danish). Is that something I should worry about and if so, do you any idea of what the problem is ? [03:26] fbond|away: Don't be sorry, there is a lot I don't know man :) [03:31] hub: this dcraw upload got anything new and interesting? [03:31] yeah [03:31] -e to get the previews [03:31] digikam 0.9 needs it [03:31] and more camera supporteds [03:38] hub: can you add it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue11 under new apps in edgy? === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:40] Burgundavia: they are updated [03:40] ufraw too [03:40] hub: can you add a little section on photo stuff? [03:41] yeah [03:41] hugin is still in the queue. when it goes thru it will be a new app [03:41] very cool [04:04] Hmm, it appears that diacanvas2 might not have been moved to the new policy properly [04:04] TLE[Sleeping] : Crap, sorry, I missed your question :-( [04:04] I'm still here [04:05] TLE[Sleeping] : Don't worry about that error, just make your changes and then exit [04:06] bddebian: Ok great. Planning to provide that patch in a howto, so I'd just like be sure sure that everything is as it is supposed to be. Thanks === Xnix [n=xnix@n157s046.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:25] Why would this be in python-diacanvas2.files: usr/lib/python2.2 ? [04:25] a merge? because it was never updated? [04:25] crimsun: This is a sync from Debian afaict [04:25] then it just wasn't updated [04:25] The Debian maintainer moved it to python-support but it's broken [04:25] easily fixed, debdiffed, and gotten on with life. [04:26] Should it be /usr/lib/python-support ? [04:26] I wouldn't even use .files [04:27] aye [04:35] Man this thing is all broken [04:35] Ahhhh MAXPATHLEN [04:35] whoops, wrong chan, sorry :-) === Marce [i=marce@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marce [i=marce@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:05] crimsun: Still around? [05:05] sort of. I'm meeting with the chair atm. [05:05] Heh [05:06] crimsun: Well if you get a sec and don't mind, could you look at: http://pastebin.us/3488 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:11] Heya Hobbsee [05:11] hey Hobbsee [05:11] good cross platform svn ide client ? anyone know of one? [05:12] Hobbsee: ! :) [05:12] Hobbsee: uwn has very little KDE/Kubuntu content. Care to provide some for next week? [05:12] hi bddebian [05:12] hi everyone else [05:12] hi Burgundavia, joejaxx [05:12] Burgundavia: define "next week" - how many days? [05:13] Hobbsee: this saturday, midnight Pacific time is your deadline [05:14] Burgundavia: cool. hopefully we'll have amarok 1.4.2 by then, depending on mdz, and when they actually release the thing === siretart [i=siretart@ubuntu/member/siretart] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:14] Hobbsee: you make my heart sing [05:14] does anyone here work with svn? [05:15] Damn I hate days where nothing is going my way :-( [05:15] hmm maybe not lol [05:17] joejaxx: some, what is the issue? [05:18] Burgundavia: i was wondering what a good cross platform svn ide was [05:19] joejaxx: you asking me about Windows and OS X? sorry, canna help you [05:19] I use gedit [05:19] Burgundavia: for svn? [05:19] they have a plugin for it? [05:20] no, I just use the command line [05:24] joejaxx: svn [05:24] joejaxx: the command line tool [05:25] hub: cross platform :\ [05:25] again [05:25] svn in command line [05:26] works the same EVERYWHERE [05:28] hub even on windows? [05:28] as far as I know [05:28] I don't use windows [05:28] so I don't care [05:28] hub: does it need cygwin? [05:28] Burgundavia: don't ask too many questions [05:29] Burgundavia: again: I don't do Windows [05:29] I just know that it works [05:29] worst case scenario just use tortoiseSVN [05:30] true, tortiose is quite nice [05:31] doesn't emacs have a svn mode? [05:41] Any python experts awake? [05:42] bddebian: no, but I watched Snakes on a Plane last night [05:42] Heh. Was it any good? [05:42] very very bad. I killed myself laughing [05:45] heh, I expected as much :-) [05:45] it was bad? [05:46] truly awful. campy b-movie. That is what made it funny === Yagisan_ [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt_ [n=anant@62.114.91.78] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:02] lionelp: you awake ? === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:16] bddebian: looks like a pygobject bug anyhow. [06:17] Aye [06:18] Hmm, it seems to be there though.. [06:18] root@bdubuntu1:/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/gtk-2.0# grep -r write_source * [06:18] dsextras.py: from codegen import register_types, write_source, FileOutput [06:18] dsextras.py: write_source(dp, [06:18] Binary file dsextras.pyc matches [06:19] Unless pygtk itself is broken [06:22] bddebian: it would be a pygobject bug. [06:29] Is there a way to run python setup.py interactively so I can see what it's doing? It seems to work from the command line [06:52] Gnight folks === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:00] yawn [07:01] hi folks === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:46] heya Hobbsee [07:46] :) [07:49] hey Arbiter === BazziR [n=Bastian@p508026B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:51] Hobbsee: would you review kdocker? :D [07:52] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2907 :D [07:52] Arbiter: wasnt that already in the archives? i thought it got advocated ages ago? [07:53] no... there was a building problem with updated edgy packages [07:53] Arbiter: bddebian replied to it again === Hobbsee wonders if it's sitting somewhere in NEW [07:53] no [07:54] it didn't hit the archives :D [07:54] Arbiter: it takes a while for packages to get thru NEW [07:54] i've alredy looked for it in NEW queue [07:54] and it's not in NEW queue :P [07:54] ah right [07:55] ;) [07:57] Arbiter: does it happen to need dh_iconcache, btw? [07:58] hm... === Hobbsee doesnt know how to find out [07:59] why? [07:59] (it needs dh_iconcache) [08:00] it does? [08:00] hmm, it doesnt seem to install files to those directories [08:01] http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com/msg00578.html === unix_infidel [n=blue@adsl-68-94-45-192.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:02] Hobbsee: i think it's not needed (dh_iconcache) [08:02] Arbiter: cool, ok [08:03] hey guys, quick question, after upgrading and doing a fresh install to dapper i've noticed that when after i've installed vim-gnome vim-gtk, there are no options for colorscheme in the menu and appending the gvimrc file correctly displays an error. [08:03] did the maintainers take out that option from the package. === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:03] (it was available in breezy) [08:04] Arbiter: looks good to me. test building === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-63-43.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:08] erm, anyone? [08:08] What do you wish to know? [08:08] Hobbsee: alredy tested with an updated pbuilder [08:09] Hobbsee: i always test my packages with pbuilder [08:09] Fujitsu: whether the maintainers took out colorscheme with the new vim packages. [08:09] Arbiter: cool. but i'm paranoid :) [08:09] my old pbuilder built the package with no problems [08:09] two days ago i try to build the package with an updated pbuilder and... BOOOM [08:09] build errors :D [08:10] (that i never had before :P) [08:10] Have you checked the changelog, unix_infidel? [08:10] Fujitsu: for the package for or the vim software? [08:10] The package. [08:10] let me give it a gander [08:11] Uploading via ftp kdocker_1.3-0ubuntu1.dsc: done. [08:11] Uploading via ftp kdocker_1.3.orig.tar.gz: done. [08:11] Uploading via ftp kdocker_1.3-0ubuntu1.diff.gz: done. [08:11] Uploading via ftp kdocker_1.3-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done. [08:11] Arbiter: ^ [08:11] Fujitsu: nothing of significance there. [08:12] unix_infidel, you sure it wasn't removed from upstream? [08:12] Hobbsee: huh? [08:12] Fujitsu: it mentions that " + 6.1.065: VMS: The colorscheme, keymap and compiler menus are not [08:12] filled in. [08:13] ahhh understood :D [08:13] which seems as if they mean to say that the menu's are not aviailable, but the option in the gvimrc should be valid no? [08:13] unix_infidel, probably. [08:13] I really don't know. [08:13] Arbiter: means that it's been uploaded to the archives [08:13] argh! [08:13] :( [08:13] Hobbsee: yup :) [08:14] thanks Hobbsee :) [08:14] Arbiter: not a problem [08:14] ah Hobbsee... === Hobbsee waits for mail [08:14] would you sponsor me for tomorrow's CC? :D [08:14] (i wanna apply for membership ;) ) [08:14] Arbiter: is it at 6am? [08:14] 6pm here :D [08:14] 2000UTC? === Hobbsee cant sponsor anything. === Hobbsee could cheer. [08:16] yup [08:16] has anyone figured out what xchat-gnome does with the paste buffer? [08:16] it seems to have ADHD [08:17] Arbiter: but not at 2am [08:18] Hobbsee: awww no problem then :D [08:18] anyone know who the maintainer(s) for the vim packages are? [08:18] i'll ask Gloubiboulga when he connects :) [08:18] unix_infidel, apt-cache show vim [08:18] erm, nvm. [08:18] Hobbsee: kdocker is in NEW queue :) thanks again [08:19] Arbiter: yay :) [08:19] Fujitsu: yea, maybe the better question is if ANYONE of them in here. === Hobbsee just got mailed about that [08:19] unix_infidel, doubtful, this isn't a Debian channel. [08:19] Fujitsu: hrm. Thanks. [08:19] I'll ask in #debian then, thanks a lot man. [08:20] appreciate it. [08:20] No problem, I hope you have some luck. === CarlFK [n=carl@c-67-163-39-124.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === unix_infidel [n=blue@adsl-68-94-45-192.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Zdra [n=zdra@196.218-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-131-090.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ttyfscker [n=ttyfscke@unaffiliated/ttyfscker] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:46] is there anyone in here that has any authority over this gnomefreak guy? [08:47] ttyfscker: any of the ops, see #ubuntu-ops [08:47] Hobbsee:: thanks === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan wonders if bluefoxicy actually read my email before hitting reply. [09:01] Yagisan: which [09:02] bluefoxicy, u-d where you tell me you don't care about k8 [09:02] Jones? [09:02] bluefoxicy, that's great, but not what I asked [09:03] bluefoxicy, that's me. btw, no need to CC in future - I've been here a long time ;) [09:03] yeah, K8 kernels generally break things, or don't use K8 instructions (the k8 doesn't bring any added insns in 32-bit mode) [09:03] bluefoxicy, I'm talking about the *hardware* I have to test [09:03] oh [09:04] I thought you meant K7/K8 kernels on K7/K8 boxes [09:04] not i686 on K8 [09:04] bluefoxicy, I doubt there is much difference, but, I'd rather not see a decision based on 2 Intel boxes that may or may not be typical === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:05] Yagisan: nods. Do you know if they're assulting the kernel or if they're testing real-world user programs? [09:06] overall the kernel accounts for 18% of CPU time [09:06] (including syscalls, scheduling, mm, etc-- anything in kernel mode) [09:07] so if they're assulting the kernel, multiply the numbers by 0.18 to get the real world impact. :) [09:08] if they're relying on a "typical program" then all bets are off; there's no telling how much time it spends in the kernel versus how much time it spends in userspace [09:08] bluefoxicy, I suspect a kernel assult, but, I need a monkeys guide to reproduce it. I'm a monkey [09:08] I would imagine this would average 18%, but I don't have a standard deviation ;) [09:08] Yagisan: nods [09:08] my real worls apps hardly match a standard desktop though === Yagisan needs to see a client now. I'll need to finish this chat later bluefoxicy [09:09] i need to sleep now [09:09] it's 3am [09:09] keep in mind I am mostly full of conjecture, some of which is based on numbers I've measured [09:10] (for example I've used a full oprofile of my system to find out PIC vs main executable vs kernel CPU time) === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has left #ubuntu-motu ["chapo] === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ttyfscker [n=ttyfscke@unaffiliated/ttyfscker] has left #ubuntu-motu ["This] [09:40] Any MOTUs here that can check/upload 6 merges for me? === Hobbsee isnt here [09:40] Aha === ajmitch is heading out, will be back in ~30-40 minutes [09:40] I'm here, but I don't have the time at the moment. [09:40] if you want, I can look later [09:41] OK, they're at http://people.ubuntu.com.au/~fujitsu/merges/ [09:41] ok [09:41] ask me later when I'm back :) [09:41] OK, I shall. 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[10:24] yeah [10:28] /stats p [10:28] erm [10:29] Are you back, ajmitch? [10:29] sort of [10:29] ie. no. [10:30] ie I have food now & am eating it :) === Nafallo upgrades ajmitch to support multitasking ;-) === Mithrandir tickles Nafallo [10:32] Good evening, Mithrandir. [10:32] Mithrandir: yay! you're alive :-) [10:32] hiya Fujitsu [10:32] Mithrandir: how are you? except you should have sucky connection atm :-P [10:32] Nafallo: yeah, been on vacation. === nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:0:1ce:c01d] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:32] the connection is quite sucky. [10:33] :( [10:33] Hey, mine is 28.8kbps, but stable. [10:33] hmm [10:33] mine is stable at 10240/1024kbps ;-) [10:34] 1024/1024, or 10240/1024? [10:35] mine is a nice stable 8192/1024kbps ;) [10:36] we're sharing a wireless 2Mbit here. [10:36] Mithrandir: better than dialup i guess ;) [10:36] When should you have an orig.tar.gz ? [10:36] Plug: for every package === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:0:1ce:c01d] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:42] 10/1Mbit [10:43] Mithrandir: huga! you should check out the FON maps for something faster wireless then. or atleast stable :-). [10:44] ajmitch: take that! === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-63-43.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:44] (if REVU updates) === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@85.25.109.105] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ctd [i=ctd@2001:388:c152:6:0:0:0:70] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@p54A83070.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:53] REVU never emailled me either, if anyone can help with that === ogra_ [n=ogra@p54A83070.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@p54A83070.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p54A83070.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:10] right [11:11] who wants to review my package! :) [11:11] Plug: ajmitch :-) === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:27] Any MOTUs suitable for checking/uploading merges around? [11:28] Fujitsu: i'm busy atm but in an about 2 hours i can spend some time on it if you give me a url or shoot me an email === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:30] Fujitsu: also do you know about the LP universe sponsors team ? find the bug report ( or file one ) and attcahe the debdiff then subscribe ( not assign ) the team [11:30] that way MOTU's can get to it when they have time if you are not on irc or if they dont come onto irc [11:30] I'd seen the email on that, yes. [11:30] True. [11:30] I'll do that, I think. === Plug slaps ajmitch [11:30] ;) [11:30] debdiff between Debian current and the new Ubuntu one? [11:31] between ubuntu current and the new one [11:31] since thats what will be uploaded [11:31] Ah, OK. [11:32] OK. [11:32] i would mention the url to the MoM report also for merges [11:32] Shall do. [11:33] Thanks :) === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@45.209-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asimon_ [n=asimon@p54A5D1F0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === erez [n=erez@85-250-185-70.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p54A83070.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:12] siretart: ping [12:15] hmm [12:15] the ubuntu branch of pbuilder is out of date :-P === lukketto [n=lukketto@host233-159.pool876.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@titoph.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon does a little dance , sings a little song ..... woot === neutrinomass [n=pandis@ppp171-143.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu questions imbrandon's thinking patterns. 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I can check back in 4 hours after today's lectures. [04:14] crimsun: NP, thx === jinty [n=jinty@221.Red-83-58-174.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [04:23] hi, howto obtain the REVU password? the lostpw.py script seems to be bugged === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [i=daniel@conference/ubuntu/de/unlabeled] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukketto [n=lukketto@host233-159.pool876.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:32] hehe [04:32] hi dholbach [04:32] rothera should be unavailable for some hours now I guess ;-) [04:32] dholbach: arent you on holidays? [04:32] Hobbsee: i'm back again [04:32] Hobbsee: look at his cloak to know where he is ;-) [04:32] Hobbsee: on the distro sprint === dholbach hugs Hobbsee [04:33] dholbach: nice :) [04:33] Nafallo: true that === Hobbsee hugs dholbach [04:33] dholbach: so is this the distro sprint where you sprint to get to the beer? [04:33] haha [04:33] to get to the beer? [04:34] Hobbsee: have you been to a conference? [04:34] s/beer/whatever alcoholic beverage you prefer/ [04:34] Hobbsee: you don't get to any beer until after 10pm [04:34] tseng: no. if i had, i suspect you would have remembered me. [04:34] oh, I am not a regular attendee === Hobbsee is one of those strange green aliens. === Mithrandir tickles Hobbsee [04:34] true - but you would likely recognise a weird alien face from photos of them === Hobbsee tickles Mithrandir and stomps on his feet [04:35] oh [04:35] Mithrandir: how'd the wedding go? [04:35] Hobbsee: excellent. Everything went smoothly and just as planned. [04:35] Mithrandir: yay :) [04:35] w34 [04:35] eh. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukketto [n=lukketto@host233-159.pool876.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === jinty [n=jinty@221.Red-83-58-174.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-126-62.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Prezu [n=kvirc@eu162.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian sighs === xopher [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:02] *sigh* [05:02] what is upstream tarball has CVS files? [05:03] hub: then bug the hell out of them :-) [05:05] hub: if you want, you can repackage it, but using the prestine upstream tarball might outweigh having those files in it [05:05] azeem: I already have to bz2 -> gz [05:05] ah, ok [05:05] (Ubuntu supports bz2 I think) [05:05] but I do that with a bzcat | gzip -9c [05:06] azeem: Debian does not [05:06] yeah [05:06] no biggie [05:07] my biggest problem is to actually build the thing [05:07] I don;t have enough RAM to *build* [05:07] hub: ssh to someone else's machine that *does* [05:07] Hobbsee: easier to say than to do [05:08] Hobbsee: the only machines I have with 1gb are: [05:08] hub: true [05:08] 1/ the work laptop: runs Xandros [05:08] or use swap. [05:08] 2/ the MacMini: runs MacOS X [05:08] Mithrandir: yeah right, that is actually what happens [05:08] hub: you could build in a chroot on your xandros box [05:08] hub: use a chroot on the xandros box? [05:08]