[12:01] <lostinc> ill try that
[12:01] <acon> UbuntuBantu, IceOwl, Sorry I meant chmod oga+rwx
[12:01] <ompaul> mytourdeforce, did you save it?
[12:01] <IceOwl> if you want to do r-xr--r--
[12:01] <Belboz99> Hey all, I'm trying to get MP3's to play in Amarok, any suggestions?
[12:01] <Belboz99> Right now it just skips over the songs without error or playback
[12:01] <ompaul> mytourdeforce, usually F10
[12:01] <poundex> can anyone please help me with http://pastebin.ca/141224 ?
[12:01] <Lobster> n8
[12:01] <skyonex> Please recommend me icq client for ubuntu. but not Gaim or Kopete :-)
[12:01] <mytourdeforce> ompaul, yes, saved it
[12:01] <mytourdeforce> ompaul, then i tried just letting it boot.  no go.
[12:01] <jenda> Sound doesn't work in my firefox flash plugin (neither does it work in mozilla). Any ideas?
[12:01] <TheGateKeeper> lostinc: exec xterm (not sure)
[12:01] <IceOwl> skyonex: centericq
[12:01] <mytourdeforce> ompaul, then F12, Boot From IDE CD Device
[12:01] <mytourdeforce> ompaul, Still loads XP
[12:02] <sethk> poundex, can you install from a package instead of from source?
[12:02] <jrib> !flash > jenda
[12:02] <IceOwl> skyonex: centericq in combination with screen is very useful
[12:02] <Miaz> hey, any ibook users in the crowd? i'm having some trouble with my trackpad... this is the last G4 ibook 1.33 with the "scrolling" trackpad
[12:02] <weirdo> anyone help?
[12:02] <ompaul> mytourdeforce, can you test the CD in another machine (not to install but to test it boots)
[12:02] <UbuntuBantu> got it working - copied all my thiunderbird mail successfully :)  Wifey will be happy
[12:02] <weirdo> i cant seem to find instructions on creating .deb packages with checkinstall from .run files
[12:02] <poundex> sethk: no, only older packages available
[12:02] <greyscale> SOME F*CK ALREADY REGISTERED MY USERNAME!
[12:02] <xepher> greyscale, lol
[12:02] <DShepher1> heheh
[12:02] <lostinc> no go
[12:02] <mytourdeforce> ompaul, Sure, let me grab my brother's laptop.  I'm using the file downloaded from the website, not any external torrent or the likes.  brb
[12:02] <greyscale> why have I not been asked to ID yet?
[12:03] <acon> How can I get the system beep to use the speakers and a nice audio file instead of the pc speaker?
[12:03] <Elda> Meh, sorry to bother.  But Ive been crawling the forums and have not been able to figure out where one would obtain codecs?  Because I find that I am unable to run some of the anime discs I have in here since I do not have the correct codecs -_-
[12:03] <xepher> greyscale, do it manually
[12:03] <Miaz> Elda: try easyubuntu
[12:03] <sethk> poundex, it is failing because it wants a newer version of glib.  If no such version is available from packages, you could install glib from source.  But if you do that, you are essentially saying goodbye to package management on this box, because glib is used in a million places
[12:03] <Elda> hmmm where is this?
[12:03] <xepher> elda: ubuntuforums.org, tips and tricks
[12:03] <greyscale> do what manually?
[12:03] <Miaz> Elda: google it, it grabs most codecs for you
[12:03] <skyonex> -IceOwl-: and where I can find it?
[12:03] <Elda> Okey
[12:03] <poundex> sethk: i downloaded and compiled the new version, but it complains that there are 2 versions installed
[12:03] <Miaz> hey guys, is mac-on-linux in the multiverse?
[12:03] <ompaul> poundex, and you can kill the box in the process when you try to install soemthing else
[12:04] <ompaul> !mac-on-linux
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac-on-linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <sethk> poundex, I didn't see it complaining because there are two versions
[12:04] <ompaul> Miaz, it is not in ubuntu with that name
[12:04] <xepher> anyone know if a D-Link DWL-520 will work with ubuntu?
[12:04] <Miaz> okay
[12:04] <Miaz> hey, any ibook users in the crowd? i'm having some trouble with my trackpad... this is the last G4 ibook 1.33 with the "scrolling" trackpad
[12:04] <Elda> I looked on the forums... in searching all I find are random threads on different forms of linux "christian ubuntu" some other threads that mention the word codec, and then one person complaining about how installing some of the windows codecs in linux is illegal xD
[12:04] <sethk> poundex, oh, now I see it
[12:05] <Elda> Found easy ubuntu though xD
[12:05] <Miaz> ompaul: found it as "mol"
[12:05] <sethk> poundex, follow the instructions.  remove the path from LD_LIBRARY_PATH that contains the older glib
[12:05] <poundex> sethk: LD_LIBRARY_PATH isn't set
[12:05] <sethk> poundex, ok, then you can set it
[12:05] <sethk> poundex, or edit /etc/ld.so.conf
[12:05] <sethk> poundex, but that could have all sorts of ripple effects
[12:05] <ompaul> !mol
[12:05] <ubotu> mol is MacOnLinux. For a complete howto, visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacOnLinuxHowto
[12:06] <poundex> sethk: i tried. i installed the newer GLib into its own directory and set it to that but it said exactly the same thing
[12:06] <jenda> jrib: thanks, but no help
[12:06] <sethk> poundex, you pointed LD_LIBRARY_PATH to a directory with the newer .so files in it?
[12:06] <jrib> jenda: you set it to use aoss and it still didn't play sound?
[12:06] <x_or> I misconfigured X, I think, because the Xserver does not bring up the GUI login.  Is there a configuration utility that runs from command line?
[12:06] <poundex> sethk: yea
[12:06] <pluma> Is there a way to have Thunderbird share its inbox with other applications (e.g. Evolution)?
[12:06] <sethk> x_or, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:06] <jenda> jrib: that's what I was thinking... where can I set 'it' to use OSS
[12:07] <sethk> poundex, then you can do the edit of ld.so.conf, but back it up first.  more than once.
[12:07] <Tangent1> hey iter
[12:07] <bubu1uk> Elda: not sure what codecs u mean, but it's not windows codecs. codescs like mp3 can be (basicaly are) illegal to have on linux box if u didnt buy them.
[12:07] <sethk> poundex, you don't want to lose that configuration because it will impact potentially everything that uses shared libraries, which is everything
[12:07] <Tangent1> it's installing the whole Warty base system... but on the plus side, it's on a separate partition
[12:07] <Tweak> who was helping me with the wireless?
[12:07] <Tangent1> so I can just remove the new partitions it added, right?
[12:07] <sethk> poundex, you can try to work with pkg-config, as it suggests as well
[12:08] <HackMaster> does anyone know how to create a session that will tell ubuntu to load up a full screen xterm window instead of any window manager?
[12:08] <poundex> sethk: where is ld.so.conf? it's not in /etc
[12:08] <Elda> Tweak, I could try to help >.>  What type of wireless are you using?
[12:08] <Elda> I dont know much but I managed to get my wireless working
[12:08] <sethk> poundex, it's in /etc here.
[12:08] <sethk> poundex, you are sure it isn't in /etc?  and this is ubuntu?
[12:08] <DShepher1> HackMaster: why not just go to the vts that are provided?
[12:08] <Tweak> Elda:  I have a HP Compaq Notebook
[12:09] <jrib> jenda: well see if closing all your firefox windows and running 'aoss firefox' after installing the alsa-oss package works
[12:09] <HackMaster> DSheper1: vts?
[12:09] <_gpg_> hi all
[12:09] <jenda> jrib: thx
[12:09] <poundex> sethk: Yup. there's an ld.so.cache and that's it
[12:09] <Elda> Hmmm, well Im using an HP ZE5400, what wireless device?
[12:09] <sethk> poundex, that's bizarre.
[12:09] <jrib> jenda: that worked?
[12:09] <DShepherd> HackMaster: <control><alt>F1 ... F6 i think
[12:09] <Tweak> Elda: how can I know that?
[12:09] <sethk> poundex, you should be able to give a flag on the ./configure line to tell it not to use shared libraries
[12:09] <Elda> I am using a broadcom ... it should be on the bottom of your laptop
[12:09] <_gpg_> i'm having may troubles afer system Hard rebout (broken power supply)
[12:09] <jenda> jrib: not just yet - thx for the suggestion ;)
[12:09] <Elda> jsut pick it up and look under it xD
[12:10] <poundex> sethk: i tried that aswell it just ignored it
[12:10] <sethk> poundex, then it will complain that it can't find this, and that, but you can fix each complaint.  it's time consuming but it might work.
[12:10] <sethk> poundex, ignored the flag to not use shared libs?
[12:10] <bubu1uk> Tweak: ubuntu absolutely didnt pick up ur wireless device?
[12:10] <jrib> jenda: oh, well if that works the wiki should have instructions for the proper file for you to edit so you don't need to type 'aoss firefox' all the time
[12:10] <Elda> It does that in some cases bubuuluk
[12:10] <jenda> jrib: yep, it works
[12:10] <Tweak> Elda:  im using broadcom
[12:10] <poundex> sethk: yup and gave me the same error
[12:10] <Elda> okey hold on!
[12:10] <jenda> jrib: ok
[12:10] <sethk> poundex, what are you installing?
[12:10] <DShepherd> HackMaster: you press <control><alt>F7 to come back to your GUI
[12:10] <HackMaster> DSheper1: you would seem to be correct. except the xserver is not responding there. i am trying to run firefox without any other window manager
[12:10] <Elda> Tweak let me get you the link
[12:11] <bubu1uk> Tweak: i mean does it recognize what it is?
[12:11] <poundex> sethk: PHP-GTK
[12:11] <DShepherd> HackMaster: ok hmm..
[12:11] <Tweak> Elda: ok thx!!
[12:11] <DShepherd> HackMaster: i dont know if that is possibl;e
[12:11] <HackMaster> DSheper1: i can go to failsafe-terminal, and type firefox, and it loads up a firefox window. except its not fullscreen.
[12:11] <bubu1uk> Tweak: question is if it knows device and needs setup or absolutely module is missing
[12:11] <xepher> WOW, D-Link DWL-520 Rev. D works out of the box with ubuntu!!!!!!!!
[12:11] <Elda> Tweak go here, I got it working in about 15-20 min :)
[12:11] <Elda> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[12:11] <DShepherd> HackMaster: ok
[12:12] <simak> Hi.
[12:12] <DShepherd> hio
[12:12] <sethk> poundex, what is the purpose of it?  rendering into gtk from .php files?
[12:12] <DShepherd> hi*
[12:12] <Tweak> Elda:  thx you very much!
[12:12] <simak> I can't disable screensaver and dpms with xset in ubuntu... Any ideas?
[12:12] <Linuturk> frozen bubble is awesome
[12:12] <Tweak> Elda: What irc program are you using?
[12:12] <acon> Can I change ubuntu to use alt as the modifier for gnome keyboard shortcuts instead of ctrl?
[12:12] <DShepherd> Linuturk: yes it is
[12:12] <poundex> sethk: pretty much
[12:13] <HackMaster> DShepherd: this is for a guest computer where i want as responsive a window as possible on a computer with 64MB ram and a 500MHz processor
[12:13] <Linuturk> if you like frozen bubble . . . try out Liquid War
[12:13] <Linuturk> that's awesome
[12:13] <UbuntuBantu> thx, bbl
[12:13] <IYY> my sound stopped working, but it worked before and still works on the liveCD. is there a way to restore these settings to default?
[12:13] <acon> ... and if it is possible, how?
[12:13] <DShepherd> HackMaster: ok,, have you tried Xubuntu? or another Window manager?
[12:13] <sethk> poundex, it is probably possible to track down the results of pkg-config, but I'm puzzled about why you don't have ld.so.conf.
[12:13] <Tweak> Elda: my wireless is not showing in ubuntu
[12:13] <HackMaster> xubuntu is still too slow.
[12:14] <sethk> poundex, I can't imagine any install options that would cause that to be missing.
[12:14] <IYY> HackMaster: how about fluxbox or icewm?
[12:14] <sethk> poundex, so I'm wondering if things were deleted somehow that you need
[12:14] <sethk> HackMaster, I would try IYY's suggestion, fluxbox would be my first thing to try
[12:14] <HackMaster> ok
[12:14] <bubu1uk> HackMaster: how bout just console system?   ;)
[12:15] <simak> Guys, I can't disable screensaver and dpms with xset in ubuntu... Any ideas? I need to control that because of tvtime, xine, etc.
[12:15] <HackMaster> can i run a firefox window from a console?
[12:15] <DShepherd> bubu1uk: GUI is still needed
[12:15] <[NP] Tangent> alright
[12:15] <[NP] Tangent> <-- Tangent1
[12:15] <HackMaster> xserver must be running, it seems
[12:15] <sethk> poundex,check that, I found a ubuntu box here without ld.so.conf
[12:15] <[NP] Tangent> I got my computer back up
[12:15] <DShepherd> bubu1uk: wants to run firefox very very fast
[12:15] <[NP] Tangent> thanks for the help iter
[12:15] <[NP] Tangent> :)
[12:15] <mike-digiport-> anyone know good documentation for squid proxy server
[12:15] <JaZyLNX> i have a rpm which i want to install i've done an alien -k *.rpm and it created a deb
[12:15] <JaZyLNX> how do i install the *.deb
[12:15] <alynx> I have this problem when i run fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin ; it says that make-jpkg is missing .. I have installed the make package.  Can anyone please help ?
[12:15] <bubu1uk> DShepherd: lol. was just joking
[12:15] <Miaz> well... tiger is starting up in MOL
[12:15] <IYY> HackMaster: I'd actually suggest IceWM. fluxbox is not very good for a "guest" computer, since it acts very differently from Windows/KDE/Gnome.
[12:15] <mike-digiport-> i need a web server to do an authentication, if valid authentication, forward through proxy server to a URL.
[12:15] <Miaz> let's see what happens
[12:15] <bruenig> JaZyLNX, dpkg -i *.deb
[12:15] <DShepherd> JaZyLNX: sudo dpkg i package.db
[12:15] <mytourdeforce> ompaul, doesn't seem to boot on other systems either.
[12:16] <JaZyLNX> thanks
[12:16] <p3980> JaZyLNX: dpkg -i *.deb
[12:16] <p3980> darn, too late
[12:16] <HackMaster> DSheper1, bubuluk, sethk: the guest computer will just be for people checking their damn myspace pages and such
[12:16] <DShepherd> bubu1uk: good joke :-)
[12:16] <sethk> poundex, ok, ld.so.cache is just a compiled higher access speed version of ld.so.conf
[12:16] <bubu1uk> i have bout same old stuff, but xubuntu is ok on it. suprisignly kde or gnome ok as well. only it takes ages to do something
[12:16] <bruenig> JAZyLNX, also you should be able to open it with gdebi which installs it graphically
[12:16] <ompaul> mytourdeforce, get a new CD
[12:16] <bubu1uk> 443Mhz, 96 ram
[12:16] <Elda> Tweak hold on a second
[12:16] <bubu1uk> or something like that
[12:16] <Elda> May I pm you on this?  Much less text to get in the way
[12:16] <mytourdeforce> ompaul, i got this one from the link on the ubuntu.com site.
[12:17] <HackMaster> DSheper1, bubuluk, sethk:  iceWM installable from synaptic correct?
[12:17] <DShepherd> JaZyLNX: yeah you should be able to just double the deb package that you made.
[12:17] <poundex> sethk: so is there anything i can do?
[12:17] <DShepherd> HackMaster: not sure. i can check
[12:17] <IYY> HackMaster: yes, it's in the repos
[12:17] <mytourdeforce> ompaul, i downloaded the PC files onto a mac, burned them to dvd, and then tried install in PC.  does that have anything to do with the problems I'm having?
[12:17] <_gpg_> when i use fglrxinfo i got something like Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". can any one help me please ?
[12:17] <DShepherd> HackMaster: yes it is
[12:17] <sethk> poundex, yes, let me look around a bit and see if it is possible to get ld.so.conf out of ld.so.cache.  then we can edit ld.so.conf
[12:17] <HackMaster> DSheper1, bubuluk, sethk: ok, synaptic takes about 4 minutes to load on the computer. so i wanna be sure
[12:17] <ompaul> mytourdeforce, back in a minute
[12:17] <mytourdeforce> ompaul, okay
[12:17] <DShepherd> !info icewm
[12:17] <ubotu> icewm: wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.23-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 629 kB, installed size 1632 kB
[12:17] <HackMaster> DSheper1, bubuluk, sethk: any other packages with iceWM you suggest?
[12:17] <alynx> I have this problem when i run fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin ; it says that make-jpkg is missing .. I have installed the make package.  Can anyone please help ?
[12:18] <sethk> HackMaster, I suggested fluxbox.  icewm may be fine, I don't know it nearly as well, though.
[12:18] <IYY> HackMaster: I'd suggest the IceBuntu theme http://freshmeat.net/projects/icebuntu
[12:18] <sethk> HackMaster, so I don't know which packages it might need either
[12:18] <erUSUL> _gpg_: check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf for a line like 'load "dri"'
[12:18] <bubu1uk> HackMaster: lol. know that feeling to wait for synaptic till it loads. couple minutes, not secs like on new systems
[12:18] <IYY> HackMaster: and also, icepref and iceme to edit settings and menus.
[12:18] <looktj> Hi, how do i open a usb flashdrive?
[12:19] <HackMaster> DSheper1, bubuluk, sethk: i am gonna install both, and see which one i like best
[12:19] <mytourdeforce> looktj, pocketknife.
[12:19] <sethk> poundex, I have to go for a bit.  it's definitely possible to do what I said (about ld.so.conf and ld.so.cache) so I think this is solvable.
[12:19] <DShepherd> HackMaster: sure..
[12:19] <p3980> looktj: does it mount automatically?
[12:19] <sethk> poundex, but I'll have to look a bit more to find the specifics
[12:19] <mytourdeforce> looktj, XD lol
[12:19] <sethk> HackMaster, ok
[12:19] <poundex> sethk: ok, thanks very much for your help
[12:19] <HackMaster> DSheper1, bubuluk, sethk: thanks guys, ill report back in a bit once it installs
[12:19] <looktj> thanks
[12:19] <x_or_> I just tried to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and I thought I did things correctly, but still X won't run, meaing the screen is black until I leave X with ctrl-alt-F1
[12:20] <x_or_> Anyone have any suggestions?
[12:20] <p3980> x_or_: are you sure your graphics card is setup correctly?
[12:20] <x_or_> p3980:  No, I am not sure of that.  How would I tell that?
[12:20] <looktj> x_or_: get a compatiable grapics card
[12:20] <x_or_> lspci?
[12:20] <_gpg_>  <erUSUL>: http://paste.uni.cc/9650
[12:21] <p3980> x_or_: first off, have you checked the system logs for any errors?
[12:21] <toddobryan> What's the best way to get Eclipse 3.2 running?
[12:21] <x_or_> p3980: meaning, run dmesg, or tail /var/log/messages?
[12:21] <p3980> x_or_: both
[12:21] <toddobryan> If I just download it, I'm not going to be able to install any packages that depend on it, am I?
[12:21] <p3980> x_or_: for any errors x-related, that is
[12:22] <nuaimat> how to control startup services and scripts, the bum "boot up manager" is stupid !!
[12:22] <ardchoille> !sysv-rc-conf > nuaimat
[12:22] <simak> I need to disable the screensaver and dpms stuff when a fullscreen app is running. Any tip?
[12:22] <ardchoille> !info sysv-rc-conf
[12:22] <ubotu> sysv-rc-conf: SysV init runlevel configuration tool for the terminal. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99-3 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 104 kB
[12:23] <nuaimat> ardchoille: thanks
[12:23] <ardchoille> nuaimat: You're welcome :)
[12:23] <RockMusic> Has anyone ever used Smart Bootmanager to boot a live cd?
[12:24] <Elda> Meh I hope was able to help tweak >.<
[12:24] <nuaimat> RockMusic: yeah
[12:24] <Dodzey> strange problem, the totem controls dont redraw themselves when the sidebar is open (ie the transport slider doesnt move across etc) but they do when the sidebar is closed
[12:24] <Elda> Then that would be the first person I helped out in Linux xD
[12:24] <Tweak_> Elda: Im not getting any message from you
[12:24] <mundisko> hi all
[12:25] <Elda> odd
[12:25] <Elda> I pmed you
[12:25] <Goldfisch> Does this channel support amd64, or is there an alternate channel for that?
[12:25] <Elda> Oooh I see why
[12:25] <Elda> I was trying to message tweak still, not tweak_
[12:25] <Elda> hold on, lol
[12:25] <RockMusic> Nuaimat, when I created the image from the dsk file, Windows still says the disc is unformatted.
[12:25] <nuaimat> Banshee doesn't start here, all i see is "Starting Banshee ..." down on the task bar, then it disappears
[12:25] <goga> hi everyone... i've downloaded cairo-dock tar.gz file from http://www.gnome-dock.org/trac and when i try to run ./start-cairo-dock script ....ti gives the error message : floating point exception....does anyone knows what tha means ? and how to solve this ?
[12:25] <RockMusic> I wanted to view the documentation before I boot with it.
[12:26] <erUSUL> nuaimat: run it from a terminal
[12:26] <dabaR> goga: what does the script do?
[12:26] <nuaimat> RockMusic: what is the disk ?? what is the file , maybe the disk is formatted for linux (ext2 or ext3) not ntfs
[12:26] <goga> it starts the docker i suppose...
[12:26] <nuaimat> erUSUL: should i just type "banshee" ?
[12:26] <RockMusic> I formatted the disc on Windows, then wrote the image to it.
[12:26] <erUSUL> nuaimat: yes
[12:26] <Goldfisch> I just installed dapper drake on my adm64, and booted it up. My atheros-based wireless PCI card can't connect to my AP. Does madwifi support amd64?
[12:27] <erUSUL> nuaimat: we should get a proper error msg
[12:27] <dabaR> goga: go post the script to pastebin.
[12:27] <RockMusic> But I can't see the sic.
[12:27] <RockMusic> Can I view the documentation anywhere else other than on the mysteriously unreadable disc?
[12:27] <nuaimat> erUSUL: it says "GOT SIGSEGV while executing native code" ?!?! do u have any idea what this is ?
[12:28] <nuaimat> RockMusic: what is the image file that u have write ?? is it ubuntu ?
[12:28] <RockMusic> sbootmgr
[12:28] <RockMusic> sbootmgr.dsk
[12:28] <goga> dabaR....its the first time im using xchat ,can you inform me a little bit...where is pastebin?
[12:28] <looktj> !pastebin
[12:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:28] <RockMusic> The ubutntu image, already burnt to cd, is the 6.06 iso.
[12:28] <nuaimat> RockMusic: you can find an installer for sbm
[12:28] <unio> is there a way to create a video recording everything you do on your computer without downloading excess software or buying hardware?
[12:28] <erUSUL> nuaimat: it seems a real bug in the software itself. report it in bugs.ubuntu.com
[12:29] <looktj> !tell goga about pastebin
[12:29] <RockMusic> And then extract the installer to see the contents?
[12:29] <SillyZ> evenin, quick q.... laptop installation, i would like to have the packages located on the localdrive instead of the cdrom ( no cdrom in laptop ) what needs tobe copied to the harddrive ?
[12:29] <trygg> Damn, my X is all very overexposed so to speak, its very white? I think it has to do with fglrx but i dont know how to fix it?
[12:29] <Elda> Tweak are you still there?
[12:29] <Elda> I messaged you on what to do
[12:29] <trygg> The ATI control center says that its using the tv-out to a screen, how can i removei t?
[12:29] <dasGewitte1> what's the command to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[12:29] <goga> a ok ....
[12:30] <dbernar1> SillyZ: is Ubuntu installed yet?
[12:30] <Tweak_> Elda:
[12:30] <erUSUL> !upgrade > dasGewitte1
[12:30] <nuaimat> RockMusic: sorry man , i didn't use that way , i found a ready installer of sbm somewhere i dont remember
[12:30] <Tweak_> Elda: Im messaged you also
[12:30] <SillyZ> dbernar1 : not yet, tis why im preparing for it before i do it
[12:30] <dasGewitte1> thanks
[12:30] <Elda> I didnt get a message from you
[12:30] <broam> Morning all
[12:30] <RockMusic> What system did you use to install?
[12:30] <SillyZ> dbernar1 not sure what needs to be copied from the cd to the harddrive for local package installations
[12:30] <Tweak_> Elda: maybe because I didnt register the nickname?
[12:31] <dbernar1> SillyZ: you will install, and not from a CD?
[12:31] <trygg> What command to bring up the ati control center in the console?
[12:31] <broam> Anyone know how to get to the old text installer for Dapper? I'm trying to install Xubuntu on this aging laptop and it's thrashing like a madman from GNOME
[12:31] <Elda> okey did doing this " lspci | grep Broadcom\ Corporation " in your command line return anything?
[12:31] <broam> I've spent 5 unsuccessful minutes trying to turn off the desktop background
[12:31] <erUSUL> broam: alternate cd
[12:31] <dbernar1> broam: it is called the alternate install cd
[12:31] <jfkf> Elda: yes, I got this 0000:02:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)
[12:31] <jfkf> 0000:08:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4311 (rev 01)
[12:31] <broam> Where is that?
[12:31] <erUSUL> !alternate > broam
[12:31] <Elda> Okey well then it DOES detect it
[12:31] <Elda> As it can tell its there
[12:32] <unio> how do i check how much open space i have on this hd?
[12:32] <broam> Excellent.
[12:32] <erUSUL> unio: df
[12:32] <jfkf> Elda:  which one is the wireless?
[12:32] <unio> erUSUL: thank you
[12:32] <SillyZ> dbernar1 well its going to be install it in another machine then at reboot, move it back over to the laptop at this point, although i do have the 5 diskettes for a network installation over the internet, but i wanted the ubuntu packages, like the old mandrake rpms located on the local drive, and a path setup to pull packages from there if needed
[12:32] <broam> And can anyone tell me to avoid setting a root password with the expert install?
[12:32] <bubu1uk> unio: df -h
[12:32] <dbernar1> SillyZ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[12:32] <erUSUL> unio: no problem
[12:32] <Elda> Im guessing the BCM4401
[12:32] <broam> *how*
[12:32] <Elda> anywhoo follow the instructions on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[12:33] <goga> ok dabaR i just posted it
[12:33] <Elda> Make sure that you can download the packages and everything as the instructions say
[12:33] <broam> All right.  Thanks guys.
[12:33] <dbernar1> SillyZ: put all the .deb files in your /var/cache/apt/archives, and go from there, is the best advice I can give, not sure.
[12:33] <SillyZ> ah ok
[12:33] <jfkf> Elda:  ok, thx!
[12:33] <SillyZ> thats what i was looking for
[12:33] <Elda> Np, hehe
[12:34] <SillyZ> installation to hard drive, from hard drive, very intresting
[12:34] <SillyZ> thanks for the link dbernar1
[12:34] <Elda> That is what I used and its MUCH better than messing with this wpa supplicant doo-doo
[12:34] <nuaimat> i have a TV capture card , when i use "lspci" it says "0000:02:03.0 ffff: Philips Semiconductors: Unknown device 5110 (rev ff)" but it doesn't work , there's no /dev/video0 , the card is chronos video shuttle w/ FM
[12:35] <dbernar1> goga: You have a /home/klattimer/workspace/cairo-dock/cairo-dock?
[12:35] <Elda> thx4help, is this tweak?
[12:35] <weggpod> hello
[12:35] <dbernar1> SillyZ: You saw https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromHardDriveWithFloppies ?
[12:35] <gfxstyler> hi
[12:35] <weggpod> sorry for my bad english
[12:35] <gfxstyler> does someone of you know how i can hide that stupid message/notification window of azureus?
[12:35] <weggpod> but i have this error when i open my session with gdm + xgl
[12:35] <weggpod> http://paste.debian.net/11274
[12:35] <dbernar1> weggpod: you hav not said any bad english yet.
[12:36] <Elda> Hmm frfx did it work?
[12:36] <goga> dbernar1:no ....should it be just a directory or should i add a file or something
[12:36] <fokuslee> i need help setting up winxp to xubuntu file share thx in advance
[12:36] <goga> sorry for my english :)
[12:36] <bubu1uk> fokuslee: u mean samba?
[12:36] <Elda> Wouldnt you just need to install a program that allowed you to view the linux partition?
[12:36] <weggpod> i needd help please, i have learn a lot of forum and i ahd not find any solutions
[12:36] <dbernar1> goga: You are sure it does not exist? Do a ls for it, and see if anything turns out.Do you know how to open a terminal?
[12:36] <SillyZ> dbernar1 any faith in the installers capability for resizing an ntfs partition?
[12:37] <goga> yes
[12:37] <fokuslee> sillyz go for it
[12:37] <SillyZ> running a 100gb drive split 20/80gb
[12:37] <fokuslee> i just did it
[12:37] <fokuslee> itz fine
[12:37] <dbernar1> goga: you probably speak the same lang as me...Yugoslavian?
[12:37] <SillyZ> work good for u fokuslee?
[12:37] <fokuslee> yep
[12:37] <fokuslee> 2 times
[12:37] <goga> nope....greek :)
[12:37] <dbernar1> SillyZ: sure.
[12:37] <SillyZ> schweet
[12:37] <fokuslee> hehe
[12:37] <fokuslee> have fun
[12:37] <SillyZ> was going to steal 10gb from the 80gb partition for ubuntu
[12:37] <bubu1uk> SillyZ: qparted should do the job for resizing
[12:37] <SillyZ> more than enough for xubuntu
[12:38] <fokuslee> do u have sata?
[12:38] <gfxstyler> weggpod:  join #ubuntu-xgl
[12:38] <kyja> weggpod: ??
[12:38] <fokuslee> i have old ide drive
[12:38] <Cego> hi
[12:38] <fokuslee> hi
[12:38] <weggpod> kyja, ?
[12:38] <gfxstyler> hi
[12:38] <Cego> can anybody help me?
[12:38] <weggpod> http://paste.debian.net/11274
[12:38] <broam> Cego: what do you need?
[12:38] <gfxstyler> dont ask for help Cego :D
[12:38] <Cego> i have a pegasos ppc computer
[12:38] <goga> dbernar1:no it doesn't exist ...
[12:38] <dbernar1> !xgl
[12:38] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:38] <Cego> and i downloaded ubuntu for ppc
[12:38] <gfxstyler> weggpod:  #ubuntu-xgl
[12:39] <gfxstyler> there all users use xgl i guess
[12:39] <herri> i'm trying to install ubuntu with dapper drake burn cd, I press on the cd live icon and nothing happens
[12:40] <dbernar1> herri: You need to tell us what is not working better.
[12:40] <gfxstyler> herri: you downloaded the iso image and burned it to cd?
[12:40] <herri> that is correct,
[12:40] <goga> dbernar1: the script cairo-dock is also in the same directory with the start-cairo-dock...i run it and i gives the same error ...: floating point exception
[12:40] <gnuyen> hi guys, does the apache 1.3 build in ubuntu dapper have large file support?
[12:40] <Cego> and i dont know what to type in the openfirmware (smartfirmware) shell to boot from the cd
[12:40] <weggpod> gfxstyler, no one speak on #ubuntu-xgl
[12:40] <gnuyen> i have 2.0 installed and it chokes on files > 2gb
[12:41] <gfxstyler> weggpod: okay, what graphics card do you have?
[12:41] <herri> I burned the iso into a cd, I booted my the cd, when i pressed on the install icon nothing happens
[12:41] <Cego> hmm, looks nobody can help me :(
[12:41] <broam> Cego: hmm... the last machine I had with openfirmware was a PM 9500 and it was...
[12:41] <broam> Cego: a really long annoying command line
[12:41] <bubu1uk> herri: double click?
[12:41] <weggpod> gfxstyler, xgl + compiz work when i launch them in a consol
[12:41] <broam> Cego: try holding down the "C" key when you start up?
[12:41] <weggpod> but not when i want use gdm
[12:41] <SillyZ> thanks again guys/gals the help is greatly appericated
[12:42] <kyja> herri: what do you have for ram?
[12:42] <Cego> briguyd: no i dont
[12:42] <weggpod> my graphics card is NVdia geforce 4 mx 460
[12:42] <Cego> ups
[12:42] <gfxstyler> weggpod:  yeah, what gfx card do you have, and how did you setup xgl, with a session or with that gdm.conf-custom stuff?
[12:42] <Cego> broam: no i dont
[12:42] <kyja> heh
[12:42] <fokuslee> hey can anyone help me with fileshare prob?
[12:42] <kyja> must have been the double click thing
[12:42] <dbernar1> gfxstyler: why not #xgl?
[12:42] <weggpod> with session
[12:43] <nuaimat>  i have a TV capture card , when i use "lspci" it says "0000:02:03.0 ffff: Philips Semiconductors: Unknown device 5110 (rev ff)" but it doesn't work , there's no /dev/video0 , the card is chronos video shuttle w/ FM
[12:43] <weggpod> i have an entry in gdm menu for xgl
[12:43] <broam> Cego: do you have a devalias cd?
[12:43] <bubu1uk> kyja: press is not double click, is it? as far as i understand it. lol  :p
[12:43] <Cego> whats that?
[12:43] <broam> Cego: try ` boot cd `
[12:43] <kyja> hehe I vote with you logic bubu1uk
[12:43] <Cego> doesnt work
[12:44] <broam> Cego: do you know the SCSI ID of your CD ROM?  I believe it's 5 usually
[12:44] <gfxstyler> weggpod:  http://www.compiz.net/topic-389-compiz-gnome    here is an howto for compiz + gdm, but its for ati so you have to change how the xgl server gets started
[12:44] <Cego> btw, i downloaded the following file http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-powerpc.iso	Programme:Downloads/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-powerpc.iso	http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/
[12:44] <Cego> ups
[12:44] <bubu1uk> kyja: was just quess if 'press'  doesnt work
[12:44] <Cego> ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-powerpc.iso
[12:44] <Cego> this iso
[12:44] <broam> Cego: That should be right
[12:44] <goga> dbernar1: the script cairo-dock is also in the same directory with the start-cairo-dock...i run it and i gives the same error ...: floating point exception
[12:45] <broam> Cego: Try Command Option Shift Delete
[12:45] <broam> Cego: when you start up
[12:45] <tuxtux_> good night at all
[12:45] <kyja> well I had thought that he might be low on ram and need to get the alternate install cd bubu1uk
[12:45] <dasGewitte1> hm
[12:45] <Cego> for what?
[12:45] <dasGewitte1> does anybody have a sources.list of breezy
[12:46] <Cego> you mean ctrl+shift+del?
[12:46] <broam> Yeah
[12:46] <Cego> ok
[12:46] <Cego> brb :)
[12:46] <broam> Cego: if that doesn't work, come back in, and get to the prompt, I have some other things to try
[12:46] <fokuslee> can someone help me with linux to winxp file share?
[12:46] <Cego> so while booting, or in the OF shell?
[12:47] <dbernar1> goga, post that script.
[12:47] <bubu1uk> kyja: i know. but this thing (my oppinion) didnt work for me. had to do it bout 4 times (double click). then i realized i use old pc and from live cd. hmm... long thinking for that thing. lol
[12:47] <nuaimat> !samba
[12:47] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:47] <fokuslee> yeah
[12:47] <fokuslee> i have samba
[12:47] <fokuslee> also installed xsmbrowser
[12:47] <ompaul> gnuyen,  http://lwn.net/Articles/150596/ - however seeing this I could not find anything on the ubuntu web site - so I would say thread with care
[12:47] <fokuslee> i can see my xp machine
[12:47] <goga> dbernar1: i was wrong ..its not a script ...its an executable....
[12:47] <fokuslee> but i can't access the shares
[12:47] <fokuslee> xsmbrowser says no share found
[12:48] <nuaimat> !samba > fokuslee
[12:48] <Wishkah> When booting off of live cd I get some errors:  RNG not detected, microcode not available, all kinds of wierd stuff
[12:48] <kyja> lol yeah, slower cd drive speeds, true to trick you into whinking it wont do a thing
[12:48] <waspius> does anyone know the command that cleans up your system from unneeded files??i think it goes something like sudo apt-get autocleanup or something
[12:48] <fokuslee> nuaimat yeah i have it
[12:48] <goga> dbernar1: what can be  the cause of this error?
[12:48] <fokuslee> nuamat i have dat and xsmbrowser
[12:48] <fokuslee> i can see it
[12:48] <nuaimat> fokuslee: then on xp , share them for "eveybody" not for a certain user
[12:48] <dbernar1> goga, something is wrong, likely some lib or something you have, or maybe do not have, read the readme for the program you donwloaded, what run-time it needs.
[12:48] <fokuslee> naumat yeah it shares with everyone
[12:48] <inzoy> hello
[12:48] <gfxstyler> waspius: sudo apt-get clean
[12:49] <goga> dbernar1: ok
[12:49] <fokuslee> i can access the shares on all other xps
[12:49] <waspius> ok thanx
[12:49] <fokuslee> but i have dis xubuntu
[12:49] <fokuslee> i can only see the xp machine
[12:49] <Wishkah> Do I need to click the install icon to get in and backup my xp files that are important?
[12:49] <fokuslee> but not access
[12:49] <weggpod> gfxstyler, i try it
[12:49] <inzoy> can anyone help me configure WPA on my wlan connection?
[12:49] <nuaimat> fokuslee: how do u "see" ?? what is that ?
[12:49] <gnuyen> so the answer is "maybe"
[12:49] <gnuyen> lol
[12:49] <nuaimat> fokuslee: maybe on XP there's a firewall ??
[12:50] <gnuyen> guess it's worth tryin
[12:50] <fokuslee> nuaimat
[12:50] <fokuslee> no
[12:50] <inzoy> i've read somewhere that there is no GUI thing for that..
[12:50] <fokuslee> i turned off all firewall
[12:50] <nuaimat> yup ?
[12:50] <fokuslee> i mean i can see the computer
[12:50] <inzoy> though there must be a way
[12:50] <Wishkah> Can someone help me?
[12:50] <fokuslee> under xSMbrowser
[12:50] <nuaimat> fokuslee: XP SP2 already have a firewall
[12:50] <fokuslee> which is like a gui
[12:50] <fokuslee> yeah
[12:50] <Elda> I could try >.>
[12:50] <fokuslee> i turned that off also
[12:51] <fokuslee> nuaimat im truly out of ideas
[12:51] <inzoy> somebody please?
[12:51] <bubu1uk> inzoy: i thing u might need wpa supplicant for that
[12:51] <Wishkah> I go to places and when I click on my HD it says Unable to mount the selected volume.
[12:51] <inzoy> tried it
[12:52] <inzoy> but things don't mach with the howto on the site
[12:52] <inzoy> *match
[12:52] <Wishkah> error: device /dev/hda2 is not removable | error: could not execute pmount
[12:52] <dbernar1> inzoy: you read the wpa supplicant howto?
[12:53] <inzoy> there is a WPAHowTo
[12:53] <inzoy> in the community help docs
[12:53] <broam> ...
[12:53] <dbernar1> inzoy: show us what you did, what you read, and what the issue was with what you were following.
[12:54] <niki> does anyone know of any software for linux that you can use to send ringtones to your cell phone?
[12:54] <nuaimat> guys , if some device reported as "unknown" , does that mean that this device won't work ?
[12:54] <inzoy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[12:54] <inzoy> cant find the config file
[12:54] <Wishkah> The only one I can open is "filesystem" 'everything else says Unable to mount selected volume'
[12:55] <Cego> re
[12:55] <Cego> hmm
[12:55] <Cego> i tried around a lil bit
[12:55] <vouzico> good night
[12:55] <Cego> i typed "boot /pci/ide/cd install/yaboot.;1
[12:55] <broam> Cego: Hmm.
[12:55] <Cego> and it loaded something
[12:55] <nuaimat> niki install gnome-bluetooth
[12:55] <broam> Cego: how far did you get?
[12:55] <Wishkah> Anyone?  Please?
[12:56] <Cego> it loaded the kernel r something
[12:56] <niki> nuaimat, my phone doesn't have bluetooth
[12:56] <broam> Wishkah: mind repeating your question? I've been looking at OpenFirmware manuals for Cego
[12:56] <FirstStrike> Wiseguy: type mount in a terminal and show us the output (use pastebin)
[12:56] <Cego> and then it said something like "etc/yaboot.conf" "taken too long"
[12:57] <FirstStrike> er
[12:57] <dbernar1> inzoy: what steps did you go through?
[12:57] <FirstStrike> Wishkah*
[12:57] <Wishkah> The only one I can open is "filesystem" 'everything else says Unable to mount selected volume'
[12:57] <Wishkah> I go to places and when I click on my HD it says Unable to mount the selected volume.
[12:57] <Wishkah> Do I need to click the install icon to get in and backup my xp files that are important?
[12:57] <Cego> and then there was this console, where it said that i can type "help" for a list
[12:57] <inzoy> first of all the net mgr and wpa_supplicant was already installed
[12:57] <FirstStrike> you should be able to mount from the cd
[12:57] <broam> Wishkah: are you using the Live CD?
[12:58] <Wishkah> broam yes
[12:58] <Wishkah> When booting off of live cd I get some errors:  RNG not detected, microcode not available, all kinds of wierd stuff
[12:58] <inzoy> so i 'added' my network to the list (wpa_passphrase ssid phrase)
[12:58] <Cego> so what can i do now?
[12:58] <inzoy> and then it asks me to find those files..
[12:59] <broam> Cego: Are you at the openfirmware prompt now?
[12:59] <dbernar1> /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf?
[12:59] <inzoy> yes
[12:59] <Cego> no
[12:59] <Cego> i booted into my usual system
[12:59] <broam> Wishkah: What sort of computer do you have?
[12:59] <broam> Cego: Aah, you only have one machine
[12:59] <Wishkah> Acer laptop
[12:59] <Cego> yeah
[12:59] <FirstStrike> Wishkah: type sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mount/directory -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 in a terminal in a terminal. where /mount/directory is the folder you're going to mount windows to. (sudo mkdir /media/windows for example)
[12:59] <Elda> Errrr no idea o__O
[01:00] <UncleD> Is there an apache 2.2 for ubuntu ready?
[01:00] <Elda> bah lag
[01:00] <FirstStrike> see if that lets you access your files
[01:00] <broam> Cego: Hmm...
[01:00] <Wishkah> how do I get to a terminal?
[01:00] <broam> Cego: What is your computer again? I want to see if there's anything special in it
[01:00] <Cego> pegasos
[01:00] <gnuyen> is there a howto some place
[01:00] <FirstStrike> Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[01:00] <broam> Cego: who makes it?
[01:00] <BHSPitMonkey> hey, question... is it okay to just dd a smaller drive onto a new, larger drive? will the remainder be unpartitioned space?
[01:00] <dbernar1> inzoy: are you sure wpasupplicant is installed?
[01:00] <Cego> bplan
[01:01] <Cego> bplan/genesi
[01:01] <gnuyen> to build the apache2 packages from souce with an additional flag?
[01:01] <broam> hmm.
[01:01] <Dial_tone> can you drag n drop video to ipods?
[01:01] <kyja> would (0 0 * * 1 sudo apt-get clean) be a good cron ?
[01:01] <FirstStrike> Dial_tone: i don't see why not.
[01:01] <Cego> it has a g3 processor at 600MHz
[01:01] <BHSPitMonkey> Dial_tone, it won't show up ON the iPod, though
[01:01] <BHSPitMonkey> when you go to use it.
[01:01] <UncleD> kyja: I would put that into a #!/bin/bash script, and execute the script
[01:01] <BHSPitMonkey> !info gtkpod > Dial_tone
[01:01] <Cego> articiaS chip
[01:01] <ubotu> gtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.2-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 480 kB, installed size 1988 kB
[01:01] <Cego> and 256MB Ram
[01:01] <UncleD> Is "Anyone" here running Apache 2.2?
[01:02] <BHSPitMonkey> Dial_tone, ^^
[01:02] <FirstStrike> i don't run apache~
[01:02] <BHSPitMonkey> Dial_tone, and I'm not sure if that even supports video.
[01:02] <kyja> ah as a start script UncleD ?
[01:02] <dbernar1> inzoy: you have the network manager installed?
[01:02] <broam> Cego: ok. I'm seeing what we can do
[01:02] <Cego> ok :)
[01:02] <UncleD> kyja: yea, script it
[01:03] <UncleD> kyja: scripts keep your cron logs clean
[01:03] <inzoy> well i typed in the commands and just said 0 installed
[01:03] <Wishkah> Firststrike, it gave me the usag: screen
[01:03] <Wishkah> I have fat not ntfs
[01:03] <Cego> is it actually right to boot with "install/yaboot"?
[01:03] <FirstStrike> oh
[01:03] <dbernar1> inzoy: and do you see the network manager?
[01:03] <inzoy> dbernar1, hmm yes
[01:03] <kyja> k thx UncleD
[01:03] <FirstStrike> Wishkah: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[01:03] <UncleD> Anyone here with apache 2.2?
[01:04] <jbroome_> UncleD: what's your apache question?
[01:04] <broam> Cego: I think so.  Debian claims to be able to boot onto the Pegasos, I'm not sure about Ubuntu, but i'm looking
[01:04] <Cego> ubuntu works as well
[01:04] <FirstStrike> but if you're on livecd then..are you planning on copying files over? cause if you haven't even installed it yet..
[01:04] <inzoy> let me see if reinstalling it with synaptic does anything
[01:04] <FirstStrike> you'd be best installing -then- mounting and copying files over
[01:04] <broam> Cego: ok.
[01:04] <inzoy> (*it was marked as installed)
[01:05] <dbernar1> inzoy: and using network manager does nothing for you?
[01:05] <FirstStrike> if you have to, resize your windows partition with partitionmagic
[01:05] <UncleD> What is the recommended way to install Apache 2.2 on Ubuntu breezy?
[01:05] <broam> Cego: Have you run across any other documentation online? I'm really running out of ideas.
[01:05] <inzoy> it connects to my network but without the WPA passphrase it cannot work
[01:05] <goga> dbernar1: if it is not trouble to you ...can you visit the site ? http://www.gnome-dock.org/trac/wiki . i cant find any instructions or readme
[01:06] <dbernar1> inzoy: it says to just use the net manager for wpa
[01:06] <broam> Cego: I haven't ready anything from BPlan/Genesi, but it looks like Yaboot's the correct program
[01:06] <Wishkah> I typed in the command and it gave me the same help screen
[01:06] <Wishkah> So I need to Install first?
[01:06] <Cego> http://www.pegasosppc.com/software.php
[01:06] <inzoy> well mine has only WEP
[01:06] <FirstStrike> you can install ubuntu without wiping out your windows drive
[01:06] <FirstStrike> !dualboot > Wishkah
[01:06] <dbernar1> goga: what do you have installed out of those things the site says the version requires?
[01:07] <broam> Cego: Have you read http://thepegasosbook.wikipeg.org/ ?
[01:07] <Cego> broam: it loads something from cd after i type that command line
[01:07] <broam> Cego: but it doesn't do anything meaningful? or does it crash?
[01:07] <Cego> and then a long text appears (in the OF) with information about ubuntu
[01:07] <dbernar1> inzoy: you went through Edit /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf to include your network.?
[01:07] <Wishkah> I won't need to dual boot, my boot.ini file with xp is messed up, I get ntldr error
[01:07] <Cego> no it doesnt crash
[01:08] <dbernar1> sorry
[01:08] <TLE> I'm trying to apply patches to source code with "/debian/rules patch" and get error "make: *** No rule to create target 'patch'. Stop" Any ides what I'm missing ?
[01:08] <dbernar1> Next, left click on the Network Manager icon and choose "Connect to other wireless network". Then, enter "YOUR-SSID" for the network name and choose your type "WPA ENTERPRISE" or "WPA PERSONAL" etc, etc ... for wireless security. Enter the password in the password text entry box. Click connect to attempt a connection.
[01:08] <FirstStrike> Wishkah: yes but you want your windows files right?
[01:08] <Wishkah> Yes
[01:08] <inzoy> first, wpa_passphrase NetworkEssid TextPassphrase
[01:08] <SillyZ> dbernar1 : have you tried this method https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[01:08] <SillyZ> direct harddrive to harddrive installation?
[01:08] <inzoy> and then i was going to add some extra lines
[01:08] <Cego> im still in the OF, but then theres this other shell where i can type "help" to get some information but it says nothin to me
[01:08] <FirstStrike> dual boot, mount windows, copy all your files over, format the windows partition.
[01:09] <inzoy> reinstalled
[01:09] <Cego> OF commands doesnt work there
[01:09] <inzoy> nothing changed
[01:09] <dbernar1> SillyZ: no
[01:09] <Cego> i think its a shell started from the cd
[01:09] <Cego> where i have to type somethin like "install" to start the installer
[01:09] <dbernar1> inzoy: no, it needs no wpasuppluicant. just follow the last instructions I gave you if you had not.
[01:09] <SillyZ> dbernar1 was thinking of giving that a shot, doing a test install on another drive for ntfs resizing
[01:09] <finalbeta> do we have a menu editor available that's faster then alacarta? It's really an irritating program
[01:09] <Wishkah> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[01:09] <nikkun> Does anyone in here know if you use a 32bit version of ubuntu and run a 64bit processor (Athlon 64 3000+) if getting the k7 kernel will give me a boost?
[01:10] <Wishkah> This page does not exist yet
[01:10] <inzoy> there is no such file
[01:10] <Cego> im gonna try it again
[01:10] <Cego> brb
[01:10] <broam> Cego: ok
[01:10] <dbernar1> finalbeta: no, do it manually.
[01:10] <FirstStrike> pfft
[01:10] <cafuego> nikkun: In theory yes, in practice, not really.
[01:10] <FantasticFoo> is there any way i can back up everything i have in my filesystem, so that i can easily restore everything to an older state if i need to, if, say, the /boot directory gets messed up and i can't boot?
[01:10] <FirstStrike> well it's simple enough Wishkah
[01:11] <goga> dbernar1: i think only librsvg isn't installed...i will check it now...
[01:11] <erUSUL> nikkun: it will no hurt
[01:11] <FirstStrike> during the install process instead of formatting the partition you just want to use unpartitioned space to install ubuntu
[01:11] <erUSUL> FantasticFoo: check partimage
[01:11] <finalbeta> dbernar1, any tips as to how? :p new user.
[01:11] <nikkun> woudl it be better then the default kernel though?
[01:11] <FirstStrike> i'm assuming your windows drive isn't 100% full Wishkah
[01:11] <dbernar1> finalbeta: use alacarte, it is great
[01:11] <cafuego> nikkun: it really doesn't make that much of a difference.
[01:11] <kyja> UncleD: hehe, can you recomend a tutorial for scripting my bash shell ? =] 
[01:11] <Wishkah> No it's not
[01:11] <FirstStrike> then you should be fine
[01:11] <Wishkah> firststrike can I pm you please?
[01:11] <FirstStrike> k
[01:12] <dbernar1> cafuego: hi
[01:12] <finalbeta> dbernar1, it sucks. dbernar1 I can make symlinks, want to be able to make desktop files, so if you could point me in the correct direction
[01:12] <inzoy> there is no /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file
[01:13] <goga> dbernar1: librsvg is installed too...everything that it requires in installed
[01:13] <dbernar1> inzoy: did you listen to what I said?
[01:13] <dbernar1> finalbeta: .desktop files?
[01:13] <inzoy> hmm you said a lot of stuff
[01:13] <FirstStrike> Wishkah: go ahead
[01:13] <YeTr2_> bah, I am having a hell of a time trying to get xorg to use nvidia
[01:13] <finalbeta> dbernar1, ehu, where are the folders used for the menu's?
[01:14] <Wishkah> Can't, it says all private messages are blocked
[01:14] <toddobryan> finalbeta: /usr/share/applications
[01:14] <YeTr2_> X either shuts it's self down, or hogs 100% of the cpu when trying to use the nvidia driver
[01:14] <dbernar1> goga: right version of that lib?
[01:14] <toddobryan> (I just found that out today.)
[01:14] <finalbeta> toddobryan, thnx, that's what I was looking for
[01:14] <cafuego> YeTr2_: When the drivers are install, run 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable'
[01:15] <waspius> i want to play live radio from the internet...but when i click on the file which supports windows media player i get the error firefox does not know how to open this address because protocol (mms) is not associated with any program
[01:15] <inzoy> dbernar1, what exactly should i do?
[01:15] <goga> dbernar1: it is librsvg2.2 from the ubuntu packages
[01:16] <BHSPitMonkey> hmm
[01:16] <sethk> waspius, true.  real has announced they will support it in linux but that doesn't exist yet
[01:16] <YeTr2_> cafuego: which basically changes the video driver from nv to nvidia, I've already done that
[01:16] <BHSPitMonkey> trying to decide if I should ditch one of my hard drives, or buy an IDE controller.
[01:16] <dbernar1> finalbeta: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=.desktop+files+ubuntu&btnG=Search
[01:16] <dbernar1> niki [n=niki@68-184-134-235.dhcp.stbr.ga.charter.com]  has quit ["Leaving"] 
[01:16] <dbernar1> 01:14 < finalbeta> dbernar1, ehu, where are the folders used for the menu's?
[01:16] <dbernar1> 01:14 -!- chameleon [n=chameleo@87.127.26.43]  has quit [Client Quit] 
[01:16] <dbernar1> 01:14 < Wishkah> Can't, it says all private messages are blocked
[01:16] <defendguin> is Edgy going to have a Xgl?
[01:16] <cafuego> YeTr2_: It also disables GLcore and enabled glx, which are steps you shouldn't skip.
[01:16] <dbernar1> Next, left click on the Network Manager icon and choose "Connect to other wireless network". Then, enter "YOUR-SSID" for the network name and choose your type "WPA ENTERPRISE" or "WPA PERSONAL" etc, etc ... for wireless security. Enter the password in the password text entry box. Click connect to attempt a connection.
[01:16] <dbernar1> inzoy
[01:16] <dbernar1> later
[01:17] <waspius> sethk: ok thanx
[01:17] <inzoy> does not work
[01:17] <Wishkah1> FirstStrike you get my pm's?
[01:17] <Tonren> Can linux read and write to FAT32 partitions?
[01:17] <inzoy> it says no network devices have been found
[01:17] <Flannel> Tonren: yep
[01:18] <haasteem> hi, i am still trying to figure out why my sound does not work anymore in dapper... i upgraded from breezy to dapper using the update manager... moreover, if i boot from the dapper live cd, sound still does not work, i checked again with the breezy live cd and then sound works. what could be wrong?
[01:18] <FirstStrike> Wishkah1: one sec
[01:18] <Wishkah1> k, no prob
[01:18] <DanaG> Is there a Gnome equivalent to KDE's ctrl-alt-escape?
[01:19] <cyphase> hmm
[01:19] <haasteem> it looks like i will need to revert back to breezy to have a fully working distro... which is quite annoying...
[01:19] <Tonren> DanaG: What does that do in KDE?
[01:19] <cyphase> from AT&T
[01:19] <DanaG> It's like pushing the Force Quit button in Gnome.
[01:19] <burnhamd> hey can ubuntu be installed on a 5gig harddrive
[01:19] <ProN00b> who is maintaining the bmp package ?
[01:19] <thebishop> is there an easy way to change the color of a gnome theme?
[01:19] <Cego> re
[01:19] <kyja> where do I put my script to do its thing on startup?
[01:20] <broam> haasteem: I'd file a bug.  What sound card?
[01:20] <burnhamd> with openofice firefox gnome and kde
[01:20] <Cego> ok now look what it says
[01:20] <michael> i'm having some trouble keeping x shutdown when i do ctrl+alt+backspace
[01:20] <burnhamd> and a few other apps
[01:20] <Cego> after i type that command line
[01:20] <michael> it just starts up again
[01:20] <__mikem> burnhead, yes
[01:20] <FirstStrike> burnhamd: 5 gigs is plenty of space
[01:20] <michael> how do i stop that?
[01:20] <haasteem> broam: i already did on launchpad
[01:20] <Cego> config file read 32768 bytes
[01:20] <burnhamd> what is the base install
[01:20] <DanaG> HIt it multiple times until GDM gives up.
[01:20] <YeTr2_> cafuego: still dies as soon as it comes up
[01:20] <burnhamd> like size wise
[01:20] <mcphail> Is there anyone running picasa who can get the slideshow to display in fullscreen?
[01:20] <Corporal_Dirge> Ug, I'm having severe issues with Azureus.
[01:20] <DanaG> Or do /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:20] <michael> DanaG: it doesn't give up
[01:20] <michael> ok
[01:20] <Cego> config file error: token is too long near line 0 in file /etc/yaboot.conf
[01:20] <haasteem> broam: Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[01:20] <michael> thx
[01:20] <cafuego> YeTr2_: And what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[01:21] <Elda|Dinner> bbl
[01:21] <skyonex> Are there any php developers? What IDE do you using for php coding in ubuntu?
[01:21] <haasteem> broam: nothing special
[01:21] <Cego> syntax error or read error config
[01:21] <burnhamd> alright im about to convert the family over to ubuntu
[01:21] <bimberi> ProN00b: 'apt-cache show beep-media-player | grep Maintainer' (or check the package properties in Synaptic)
[01:21] <Cego> welcome to yaboot version 1.3.13
[01:21] <burnhamd> they wanted something that "just worked"
[01:21] <Cego> enter "help" to get some basic usage information
[01:21] <Cego> so what does this mean?
[01:21] <YeTr2_> cafuego: pretty much nothing useful
[01:21] <LuisMendes> how can I enable mplayer inside opera, like in firefox?
[01:21] <Corporal_Dirge> Ubuntu doesn't "just work" you need to fiddle and mess with it for hours just to get it limping along.
[01:22] <jbroome> what?
[01:22] <bimberi> Corporal_Dirge: true for some but not all
[01:22] <burnhamd> i use ubuntu
[01:22] <cafuego> skyonex: 'vim'.
[01:22] <MKR> Ubuntu worked almost perfectly on install for me
[01:22] <burnhamd> already
[01:22] <MKR> all I had to do was install nividia's driver
[01:22] <burnhamd> they will want the basic instal with nothing else added
[01:22] <Cego> broam: so what now?
[01:22] <YeTr2_> cafuego: no (WW) or (EE) messages
[01:22] <cafuego> YeTr2_: Just edits without errors there?
[01:22] <Corporal_Dirge> bimberi, true for all except ubuntu programmers that can "do without" for what a lot of regular people would use.
[01:22] <cafuego> exists..?
[01:22] <cafuego> grr
[01:22] <cafuego> exits
[01:22] <YeTr2_> yeah
[01:23] <burnhamd> windows print spooler freezes every 5 minutes
[01:23] <zcat[1] > ubuntu works brilliantly. Windows-specific hardware doesn't just work. Windows-specific media doesn't just work. patent or DRM-crippled technologies don't just work.
[01:23] <cafuego> YeTr2_: How about ~/.xession-errors ?
[01:23] <Cego> config file read 32768 bytes
[01:23] <Corporal_Dirge> Anyone having swt update issues with Azureus?
[01:23] <bimberi> Corporal_Dirge: er, ok
[01:23] <Cego> config file error: token is too long near line 0 in file /etc/yaboot.conf
[01:23] <burnhamd> yea ubuntu took some fiddling on my computer
[01:23] <Cego> syntax error or read error config
[01:23] <Cego> welcome to yaboot version 1.3.13
[01:23] <zcat[1] > that is not Ubuntu's fault.
[01:23] <Cego> enter "help" to get some basic usage information
[01:23] <DanaG> SuSE: now that just works.
[01:23] <burnhamd> nvidia xgl ...
[01:23] <DanaG> However, it's not as FUN.
[01:23] <burnhamd> i dont like the idea of downloading 5 discs
[01:23] <Corporal_Dirge> bimberi, A lot of people have to do without a lot of apps because there's no *nix equiv.
[01:23] <LuisMendes> how can I enable mplayer inside opera, like in firefox?
[01:23] <Elo> Evening all. I am trying to get my laptop to use 1280x768, my xorg.conf has it set for 1280x768, but system -> preferences -> screen resolution shows the only option to be 1024x768.
[01:23] <DanaG> It's almost _too_ easy with YaST.
[01:24] <DanaG> Oh, and it IS kinda bloaty.
[01:24] <burnhamd> also is the package manages as good as synaptic
[01:24] <burnhamd> i liked fedora
[01:24] <YeTr2_> cafuego: havn't been able to log in to write to ~/.xsession-errors
[01:24] <DanaG> You can ask #suse
[01:24] <bimberi> Corporal_Dirge: that is true, but a different point
[01:24] <burnhamd> but i needed synaptic
[01:24] <zcat[1] > anyhow; Windows doesn't 'just work' either without all the OEM preinstalled drivers and patches.. most people get windows preinstalled and have no idea how much work it takes to get it running nicely from scratch.
[01:24] <DanaG> but it did a reasonable job of resolving dependencies -- IF it had them in its database.
[01:24] <cafuego> YeTr2_: What gfx card you got?
[01:24] <Corporal_Dirge> bimberi, "just works" includes getting apps to run on it.
[01:24] <YeTr2_> 6600GT
[01:24] <looktj> yay i installed kde
[01:25] <baikonur> hi
[01:25] <bimberi> Corporal_Dirge: which apps?
[01:25] <Elo> anyone? :)
[01:25] <cafuego> zcat[1] : You can't actually preinstall WinXp these dayd without laoding extra drivers from floppy to make the bugger see the HDD.
[01:25] <Corporal_Dirge> bimberi, Whatever the user needs.
[01:25] <wikijeff> How can I view PDFs in Firefox instead of downloading and then opening them separately?
[01:25] <bimberi> Corporal_Dirge: lol
[01:25] <visik7> I've a GUI and I want to automate some steps the gui is in gtk is there a way to do it ?
[01:25] <DanaG> I much prefer the brown/orange (BRORANGE or OROWN?) over the SuSE blue.
[01:25] <YeTr2_> cafuego: geforce 6600GT
[01:26] <Corporal_Dirge> bimberi, To some, "just works" could be as a paperweight that looks pretty in the corner. To me an OS runs apps.
[01:26] <toddobryan> How do people install stuff for which there isn't a package (yet)?
[01:26] <baikonur> synaptic gets started automatically sometimes and I get a message that tells me that synaptic wasn't started with admin rights. Where does this come from?
[01:26] <DanaG> Or is it ORAROWN?
[01:26] <cafuego> YeTr2_: ... I'm out of ideas.
[01:26] <zcat[1] > cafuego: probably; XP is kinda five years old. No doubt something like RedHat8 would be just as bad :)
[01:26] <bimberi> Corporal_Dirge: yes but that's _you_.  You're projecting your own experience onto _everyone_
[01:26] <DanaG> On my notebook, I had to use the OEM install disk due to the slipstreamed SATA drivers.
[01:26] <cafuego> zcat[1] : Maybe, but you cna get a Redhat whatevertheversionisnow. They're not still flogging version 8 ;-)
[01:27] <wikijeff> Anyone?
[01:27] <zcat[1] > Corporal_Dirge: get ubuntu preinstalled by someone who knows that they're doing (I do it all the time) and you will have a box where everything just works. Just like an OEM windows install.
[01:27] <sval> wikijeff: install acroread-plugins
[01:27] <wikijeff> sval, thanks
[01:27] <Corporal_Dirge> bimberi, That's the purpose of an OS. And if they make a choice of OS for the purpose of "just works" then that means apps.
[01:27] <Corporal_Dirge> zcat[1] , I've been to several Linuz installfests through my local LUG. I know how to do it.
[01:28] <bimberi> Corporal_Dirge: if all they need is email, browser and office apps then Ubuntu will be pretty close to "just works"
[01:28] <Dr4g> Hey all i'm having trouble recovering Grub after installing Windows XP. I have Linux on hda1, swap on hda2 and windows on hda3
[01:28] <thebishop> linux is in a wierd state where its good for the experts and the incredibly non-expert
[01:29] <Flannel> Dr4g: you read the howto?
[01:29] <zcat[1] > so what's the problem? I've set up windows and I've set up ubuntu on a variety of hardware. stuff 'just works' far more often in ubuntu than windows...
[01:29] <Corporal_Dirge> bimberi, Until they realize that they need to fiddle with the browser to get the plugins working.
[01:29] <thebishop> but for middle-skilled people linux is still a little out of reach
[01:29] <DanaG> Hey, is there any way to add the servers on my ISP to my hosts list so I can sonar them?
[01:29] <grimeboy> thebishop, Yeah, it's weird that.
[01:29] <DanaG> I want it to automatically update the list.
[01:29] <bimberi> thebishop: yes, well said
[01:29] <Dr4g> Flannel: yes, and i've tried a command i've previously tried that worked.
[01:29] <hush> I'm having trouble getting EasyUbuntu to install correctly
[01:29] <grimeboy> Corporal_Dirge, 1. Do they need plugins? 2. What fiddling?
[01:29] <Flannel> Dr4g: so, what are you having trouble with?
[01:30] <DanaG> Oh, but perhaps that's a bad ide.
[01:30] <DanaG> idea.
[01:30] <zcat[1] > Fiddle? add two repos, select the packages for acroread_plugin and flash_nonfree_plugin, click and go...
[01:30] <DanaG> Pinging repeatedly may be bad.
[01:30] <Corporal_Dirge> grimeboy, Unless they go to really tame websites without flash, but there's so many nowdays that you need them.
[01:30] <[sH4RmA] > is it normal that the "set" command displays a bash script ?
[01:31] <unio> what's /dev/null for?
[01:31] <grimeboy> unio, Nothing
[01:31] <unio> :S
[01:31] <zcat[1] > unio: it's there to confuse newb's
[01:31] <unio> haha
[01:32] <Dr4g> Back sorry about that - Well my problem is that when i go into Grub Prompt, and type "setup (hd0,0)" it gives me "Error 12: Invalid Device Requested", but my main Linux partition is at hda1
[01:32] <hush> hey guys do I go to #ubuntu for help with installing EasyUbuntu or do I contact EasyUbuntu ?
[01:32] <Dr4g> How can i sort my grub out to boot from hda1 please ?
[01:32] <bimberi> hush: try #easyubuntu
[01:33] <sval> Dr4g: did you try grub-install ?
[01:33] <Dr4g> whats the last parameter on grub-install ? is is hda1, /dev/hda1 or hd0,0
[01:33] <philly> can anyone explain ndiswrapper to me
[01:34] <Elo> Evening all. I am trying to get my laptop to use 1280x768, my xorg.conf has it set for 1280x768, but system -> preferences -> screen resolution shows the only option to be 1024x768. Any ideas?
[01:34] <zcat[1] > unio: /dev/null is a device where you can send output and it goes nowhere... /dev/zero is a device where you can read forever and get and endless supply of null bytes.
[01:34] <Pf123b> quick question, im downloading ubuntu 6, and itll be awhile before I have it burnt to a disc, but does it have alot of problems with wireless networking? on older laptops
[01:34] <Dr4g> sval: check this
[01:34] <Dr4g> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/hda1
[01:34] <Dr4g> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[01:34] <unio> are you using the live CD?
[01:34] <Dr4g> Yes i am
[01:34] <Dr4g> do i have to mount /dev/hda1 first ?
[01:34] <macs4all> why is it so hard to download Ubuntu?
[01:35] <zcat[1] > unio: there are others.. /dev/urandom gives an endless supply of random bytes
[01:35] <sval> grub-install /dev/hda1
[01:35] <grimeboy> macs4all, Because you're on dialup?
[01:35] <Pf123b> macs4all: it isnt hard to download
[01:35] <unio> are you sure you're not having problems just because you're using the live cd rather than an installation on your hd? [Dr4g] 
[01:35] <sval> JUST grub-install /dev/hda
[01:35] <zcat[1] > macs4all_: try a torrent ?
[01:35] <Dr4g> sval:
[01:35] <Dr4g> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ grub-install /dev/hda1
[01:35] <Dr4g> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[01:35] <Pf123b> quick question, im downloading ubuntu 6, and itll be awhile before I have it burnt to a disc, but does it have alot of problems with wireless networking? on older laptops
[01:35] <bimberi> Pf123b: that depends on your hardware
[01:35] <bimberi> !wireless
[01:35] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:35] <Pf123b> thanks
[01:36] <bimberi> Pf123b: check there ^^^^
[01:36] <Pf123b> I am
[01:36] <macs4all_> i have had many very bad experiences with torrents
[01:36] <bimberi> Pf123b: k :)
[01:36] <Pf123b> because I've been trying to run knoppix, cant get an ip with my router, dhcp fails :\
[01:36] <zcat[1] > macs4all_: try shipit. It'll take six weeks but doesn't tie up your phone line :)
[01:37] <zcat[1] > !shipit
[01:37] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org
[01:37] <macs4all_> just requested a CD
[01:37] <sval> Dr4g: so, did you try with hda and not hda1 ?
[01:37] <[sH4RmA] > Pf123b: use a static ip than (with ifconfig)
[01:37] <cafuego> FIRE! FIRE!
[01:38] <macs4all> ????
[01:38] <Dr4g> sval: yes i did
[01:38] <zcat[1] > cafuego: it's not polite to yell fire in a crowded IRC shannel....
[01:38] <unio> ok
[01:38] <Dr4g> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/nix /dev/hda1
[01:38] <Dr4g> I tried that, it seemed to work - brb
[01:39] <_cerberus_> does anyone know what could be causing scripts in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d to not execute after a ppp connection is established?
[01:39] <DanaG> What's the difference between /dev/random and /dev/urandom?
[01:39] <unio> brb, i'm going to try something out -- may be awhile
[01:39] <baikonur> I want my wlan usb device to start automatically at boottime. I use the ndiswrapper driver and have an an entry "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" in /etc/modules. The device is active after booting but does not connect to the access point though the configuration is correct and after ifdown wlan0 and ifup wlan0 it also really works. Any ideas?
[01:39] <zcat[1] > DanaG: random waits for truly entropic data, urandom hashes up what it has so you never have to wait
[01:40] <SillyZ> intresting, ntfs resizing under the partitioner, if theres any data whatsoever on it, it wont let ya move it
[01:40] <DanaG> You know what's fun?  `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/fb0`
[01:40] <DanaG> NOT IN X.
[01:40] <ACU> hi guys, anyone knows a Repository for Drupal 4.7 ?
[01:40] <DanaG> Just to be safe.
[01:41] <zcat[1] > more fun, cat /dev/urandom > /dev/hda  (no, don't do it...)
[01:41] <DanaG> WTFal is Drupal, anyway?  I keep seeing that word...
[01:41] <SillyZ> dump random to framebuffer 0... nice
[01:41] <DanaG> zcat[1] : don't joke about that!
[01:41] <bimberi> baikonur: does /etc/network/interfaces have a line with "auto wlan0" in it?  if not try that
[01:42] <baikonur> bimberi: yes. I do all the configuartion there and for wpa I have the line "wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf"
[01:42] <bimberi> baikonur: k :|
[01:42] <zcat[1] > what's random to /dev/fb0 do ?
[01:43] <_cerberus_> fills the screen with garbage, like a tv with static
[01:43] <SillyZ> zcat[1]  something u dont want
[01:43] <zcat[1] > cool.
[01:43] <DanaG> Except colored.
[01:43] <zcat[1] > ant races!
[01:43] <_cerberus_> anyone keen to try it in X?
[01:44] <macs4all> wow
[01:44] <zcat[1] > combine with cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp, when someone asks what's going on tell them the antenna fell out.
[01:45] <Kennyout> Hello can anyone help me with installation, particularlly the Partition manager
[01:45] <cafuego> zcat[1] : Sorry, neighbour's house in burning
[01:45] <ompaul> Kennyout, can you be more specific with your question
[01:46] <GStubbs43> Will removing the ubuntu Firefox and installing the official Mozilla Firefox mess any other apps up? Since I've heard it is integrated with some programs...
[01:46] <dravas> 'ZSNES' is not avalable in any Software Channel. The application might not support your system Arcuitecture.
[01:46] <DanaG> I say, why ditch Ubuntu firefox?
[01:46] <Pf123b> a 1337 taci that i took a picture of last week:  http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2051/pict0204by2.jpg
[01:46] <zcat[1] > cafuego: got a webcam?
[01:46] <dravas> Uhh I just reinstalled Ubuntu
[01:46] <dravas> and now I get this
[01:46] <dravas> on some stuff
[01:46] <dravas> 'ZSNES' is not avalable in any Software Channel. The application might not support your system Arcuitecture.
[01:46] <bimberi> cafuego: time for a backup!
[01:46] <_cerberus_> Ubuntu firefox is old
[01:46] <gpm> hey, how would i search recursively for files that DON'T end in .mp3?
[01:46] <_cerberus_> I've replaced it without any problems
[01:46] <GStubbs43> I dunno... I would rather have thhe Mozilla Firefox for updates and other stuff...
[01:47] <Kennyout> okay im confused as to the install process of Manual Partition Table, and why the installer shows both Harddisks, but none of the partitions when you are suppose to select one to edit
[01:47] <ompaul> !timetable
[01:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[01:47] <geoffrian> I'm here
[01:48] <DanaG> Hah, I found something even more annoying than catting urandom to dsp.
[01:48] <DanaG> Try catting your HARD DRIVE to dsp.
[01:48] <ompaul> !test
[01:48] <ubotu> Failed.
[01:48] <dravas> I just reinstalled Ubuntu for the reason to Dual Boot Windows and Ubuntu and now Apps that I could install before I get this message. "'ZSNES' is not avalable in any Software Channel. The application might not support your system Arcuitecture."
[01:48] <zcat[1] > sounds funky.. lots of beeps and chirps.
[01:48] <SillyZ> q: is there a bootdisk installation that uses MicroSloft smb shares?
[01:48] <zcat[1] > try catting /dev/urandom > /dev/sequencer perhaps?
[01:48] <cafuego> zcat[1] : Nope, not much to see anyway. Lotsa smoke. Firecrew already got it under control.
[01:49] <DanaG> cat: write error: No such device or address
[01:49] <zcat[1] > ahh, no midi
[01:49] <zcat[1] > nabody's soundcard has midi these days :(
[01:49] <edju> Anyone with the proper ipp syntax for CUPS client to connect to the print server?
[01:50] <Kennyout> like i have two formated partitions on one HD, with an un-formated partition on it, but in the partition table thingy, it only shows it as one
[01:50] <baikonur> when I start firefox under xfce it starts minimized. How can I change that?
[01:50] <zcat[1] > I need to set up a webcam on the corner here, lots of boy-racers and the occasional accident...
[01:50] <Dr4g> How do i activate /dev/hda(1) ,(grub) onto the MBR ? Windows is currently on it
[01:51] <ompaul> zcat[1] , if you can get two web cams pointing at it one low and one high you can have more photos :)
[01:52] <ompaul> !grub > Dr4g
[01:52] <tchmnkyz> hey all, wireless problem my broadcom card was detected and the drivers were installed with 6.06.1 LTS and yet i still can not use that card. can someone please help me set it up
[01:53] <cafuego> tchmnkyz: You need the accompanying (non-free) firmware.
[01:53] <tchmnkyz> ok
[01:53] <tchmnkyz> where i get my hands on that
[01:53] <zcat[1] > !broadcom > tchmnkyz
[01:53] <skyonex> Ups :-( Who can answer me on stupid question? How I can disconnect from internet? :-) I don't see any disconnect button on my Desktop :-(
[01:53] <drbreen> !ao
[01:53] <drbreen> !aol
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ao - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <cafuego> tchmnkyz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[01:53] <zcat[1] > fwcutter i think it's called
[01:53] <baikonur> totem mozilla plugin does not allow seeking while watching wmv. Is there a plugin for firefox that allows seeking while loading?
[01:54] <cafuego> zcat[1] : I have a pretty prepackaged one.
[01:54] <ompaul> skyonex, click on system administration networking
[01:54] <zcat[1] > yeah, where were you when jjohn wanted that? :-)
[01:54] <dravas> I just reinstalled Ubuntu for the reason to Dual Boot Windows and Ubuntu and now Apps that I could install before I get this message. "'ZSNES' is not avalable in any Software Channel. The application might not support your system Arcuitecture." and also the same goes with Java
[01:54] <skyonex> thank you. I'll try.
[01:55] <Flannel> dravas: what arch are you on?
[01:55] <FirstStrike> zsnes? no super nintendo games for you :P
[01:55] <neutrinomass> Can somebody please suggests a P2P client besides gtk-gnutella (and hopefully one that scans as many network as possible because gtk-gnutella isn't coming up with much at the moment ... )
[01:55] <cafuego> zcat[1] : on fire?
[01:56] <zoidberg> hey guys i have a question
[01:56] <zcat[1] > neutrinomass: amule
[01:56] <zoidberg> i cant get rythmbox to work
[01:56] <neutrinomass> zcat[1] : Isn't amule just for torrents ? /me rechecks
[01:56] <ompaul> neutrinomass, did not think you had time for that :->
[01:56] <zoidberg> i'm running breezy on a g3 powerbook 333mhz 64 mb ram
[01:56] <zcat[1] > nah, it's an emule clone
[01:57] <FirstStrike> oh neutrinomass, you're technically on a p2p client right now :P
[01:57] <dravas> Flannel Ubuntu x86 32 bit
[01:57] <FirstStrike> irc bots ftw
[01:57] <zoidberg> when i try to start rythmbox....it says that cant start and make sure that i run gst-register?
[01:57] <Flannel> dravas: er, zsnes is available for i386, do you have multiverse enabled?
[01:57] <neutrinomass> ompaul: Nah... although it is true that I don't spend most of my time this way :-)
[01:58] <Dial_tone> should vmmon and vmnet be in /etc/modules to run vmplayer?
[01:58] <neutrinomass> FirstStrike: Yeah, but IRC doesn't help much.... I'm looking for a song of a very obscure and old band so torrents are not really an option
[01:58] <FirstStrike> what song/band?
[01:59] <shiv> How do I prevent synaptic to automatically NOT update CUPS?
[01:59] <Dr4g> grub> root (hd0,0)
[01:59] <Dr4g>  Filesystem type is fat, partition type 0xe
 Why is hda1 a FAT filesystem, when its ext3 ?
[01:59] <zcat[1] > hopefully hiren's boot cd can do it.
[01:59] <neutrinomass> FirstStrike: You wouldn't know them. I'm not sure about the song, but the band is "metro decay" (it's underground greek rock - it's really obscure :P )
[01:59] <cafuego> The partition type is fat. It may contain an ext3 filesystem, but the partition flag says fat.
[01:59] <zcat[1] > windows user is a busty chick. I can deal with it.
[02:00] <Dr4g> cafuego: ok ty
[02:00] <jman8888> Umm. How do i open podcasts in ubuntu. Can amarok do it?
[02:00] <FirstStrike> yea, i never heard of them
[02:00] <zoidberg> can anyone help me start Rythmbox
[02:00] <zoidberg> when i try to start rythmbox....it says that cant start and make sure that i run gst-register?
[02:00] <Kennyout> what would prevent Ubuntu from seeing my first's HD's partitions when selecting "Manual Partition Table" ?
[02:01] <Flannel> jman8888: depends on what format the audio is.  but yeah, most audio players should
[02:01] <cafuego> Dr4g: You can set it to type '83' via fdisk.
[02:01] <neutrinomass> zcat[1] : Amule only complains that it can't find valid servers on server list,...it points to http://ocbmaurice.dyns.net/pl/slist.pl?download/server-best.met which is apparently unavailable right now :( Any hints ?
[02:01] <FirstStrike> Kennyout: is the drive connected? :P
[02:01] <Sjoerd-> hello, i wanted to install gnu screen. Anyone knows if it is available via the global repository?
[02:01] <shiv> How do I prevent synaptic to NOT update CUPS automatically
[02:03] <Flannel> Sjoerd-: it is.  its in main
[02:03] <zoidberg> guys is there an audio application out there which can access songs from my IPOD?
[02:03] <zcat[1] > neutrinomass: google search for servers.met, you should find plenty of live sites.
[02:03] <Sjoerd-> Flannel: Do you know what it is called for CLI?
[02:03] <neutrinomass> zcat[1] : ok, cheers :)
[02:03] <mrrcparish> Hrm,, anyone here have a dell inspiron?
[02:03] <Kennyout> FirstStrike yes...otherwize i doubt the drive would show up in list
[02:03] <jman8888> Flannel, Thanks. Also im gonna get a Mp3 soon would any random flash player be ok. Also around cristmas i may get a zen vision. Does that work in Ubuntu (My birthdays in 13 days and i may get it then.
[02:03] <Flannel> Sjoerd-: 'screen'
[02:03] <Sjoerd-> ok thanks
[02:03] <Flannel> jman8888: I have no idea.  Usually they just mount as USB drives though, so yeah.  but, I dont know, google for the specific models youre wondering about
[02:03] <zcat[1] > jman8888: _everything_ plays mp3 ...
[02:03] <Dr4g> Why can't it find these files?
[02:03] <Dr4g> grub> setup (hd0,0)
[02:03] <Dr4g>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no
[02:03] <Dr4g>  Checking if "/grub/stage1" exists... no
[02:04] <jman8888> zcat[1] , But i wondered if I would be able to have it in like amarok in ubuntu
[02:04] <fcukthisgame> Who wants to convince me that ubuntu is better than gentoo?
[02:04] <zcat[1] > jman8888: and almost every player pops up as a usb disk, even things like ipods
[02:04] <alg8662> they're different
[02:04] <shiv> Guys, I want synaptic to not tell me about CUPS update. How do I do that?
[02:04] <zcat[1] > yeah, didn't read the whole question :)
[02:04] <alg8662> ubuntu is super easy to use yet still moderately powerful, while gentoo is much more for the poweruser
[02:04] <jman8888> zcat[1] , Then i feel safe. I always heard of people not getting there ipods working so i wondered if a zen would be better.
[02:04] <fcukthisgame> portage=super easy
[02:05] <fcukthisgame> xgl= fairly easy
[02:05] <fcukthisgame> amd64 support?
[02:05] <alg8662> well fine but otherwise ubuntu is much more aimed for the novice
[02:05] <fcukthisgame> ubuntu-wiki?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> fcukthisgame: please change your nick to something a little more family orentated
[02:07] <Dr4g> Why people/... why?
[02:07] <Dr4g> grub> setup (hd0,0)
[02:07] <Dr4g>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no
[02:07] <Dr4g>  Checking if "/grub/stage1" exists... no
[02:07] <zcat[1] > hehe, my kid has a French Connection UK t-shirt.... :)
[02:07] <Dr4g> I'm using live CD trying to activate my hda1 partitition onto the MBR using Grub
[02:07] <Dr4g> -
[02:07] <gnomefreak> !grub > Dr4g
[02:09] <khaije1> anyone know about if there are any foss/linux clients that impliment the updates in google talk?
[02:09] <gnomefreak> khaije1: jabber maybe. iirc google talk uses jabber
[02:09] <neutrinomass> zcat[1] : Unbelievably, I had results :) Ty again
[02:11] <khaije1> google talk is an extension on jabber protocol, this is true, i'll check w/ jabber... i'd been using gaim for googletalk so far but gaim tends to be very non-spcific about release dates and goals imho
[02:12] <mytruehero> Does anyone have any tips for improving the audio quality in ubuntu? When I play my mp3s, I get a lot of distortion
[02:12] <zcat[1] > off to battle ntfs I guess
[02:12] <\sh> google talk is not an extention. only one part of the xmpp protocol stack which was invented by google (sip signaling via xmpp)
[02:12] <FirstStrike> mytruehero: try plugging your headphones/speaker into another jack
[02:14] <wthww> hello
[02:14] <Nero> 'ey
[02:14] <haga> hey, i know this is offtopic but how come when i hook up my xbox 360 to my 20" LCD T.V., i only get 480p ?
[02:14] <mytruehero> FirstStrike: Tried the only two other jacks that are the same size as my audio jack... both of them resulted in no sound from the speakers at all.
[02:15] <drbreen> haga: HDTV DRM crap ?
[02:15] <Nero> DCC SEND STRING "0 0 0"
[02:15] <skarface> what was that?
[02:15] <PhreakLinux> lmao
[02:15] <PhreakLinux> gj Nero
[02:15] <ubuntu> !grub > dr4g
[02:15] <cafuego> That's was an unclever exploit ;-)
[02:16] <sizzam> i'm trying to get Samba sharing set up with a windows box for the first time.  I went to System > Administration > Shared Folders and shared my home folder.   When i try to access it from the windows box, it just keeps prompting me for my username and password over and over
[02:16] <FirstStrike> !netsplit
[02:16] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[02:16] <PhreakLinux> that's an old one
[02:16] <skarface> FirstStrike: wasn't a netsplit
[02:16] <Dr4g> !grub > dr4g
[02:16] <FirstStrike> k
[02:16] <shiv> How do I prevent synaptic to NOT update CUPS automatically
[02:16] <shiv> plz zhelp
[02:16] <skarface> prevent it from not updating?
[02:17] <skarface> meaning make it update?
[02:18] <visik7> shiv: mark it hold
[02:19] <hush> what is a good bittorrent client for linux - I couldn't figure out how to install kTorrent :(
[02:19] <wthww> hush if your on ubuntu it comes with one
[02:19] <YeTr2_> hush: you could try azureus, or load microtorrent up in wine
[02:19] <FirstStrike> i'm an azureus fan
[02:19] <PhreakLinux> DCC SEND STRING "0 0 0"
[02:19] <FirstStrike> bittornado is pretty decent too
[02:19] <red|rain> hey everyone ^_^
[02:20] <hush> i didnt like azureus on winXP too bloated
[02:20] <dark_light> FirstStrike, specially in text mode..
[02:20] <wthww> >_>
[02:20] <wthww> who keeps doing that
[02:20] <FirstStrike> perhaps ABC?
[02:20] <hush> will i be able to torrent my files that are in WinXP ?
[02:20] <FirstStrike> it's kind of outdated but it works
[02:20] <dark_light> i run it on tty with a script and can even restart the X..
[02:20] <tchmnkyz> ok i followed the stuff and still get the no such device crap
[02:20] <FirstStrike> hush: yes
[02:20] <hush> awesome
[02:20] <tchmnkyz> let me reboot
[02:20] <eduj> i'm trying to make my printer work with ubuntu -- how do i go upon doing this? i think i might have it in reach, as i'm on the "Add a Printer" window, but it's asking for stuff i'm clueless about. can someone walk me through it? (it's a CANON BJC-3000 printer)
[02:21] <RichiH> defendguin, Goldfisch, mixx_, heatxsink: could you please connect to irc via port 8001?
[02:21] <RichiH> torch: you, too
[02:21] <torch> huh?
[02:21] <torch> what did I do?
[02:22] <defendguin> RichiH: why?
[02:22] <eduj> you've commited the most frowned upon crimes, torch
[02:22] <torch> aww come on
[02:22] <eduj> :p
[02:22] <torch> I'm running linux on the other computer
[02:22] <thx4help> is there a lot of performance difference between 64 bit and 32 bit Ubuntu?  how much faster does Firefox run?
[02:22] <safrican_> Hi all.. I'm wondering why my speakers plugged into the correct port - are being recognized as "headphones" instead of speakers.. so i have to use the "headphones" bar to control my speakers instead of using "master/master-mono"
[02:22] <cafuego> thx4help: It runs a bit faster on 32bit, but not hugely much.
[02:22] <RichiH> torch, defendguin: because your routers are buggy and try to 'protect' you from exploits via irc by resetting your connections
[02:23] <christoffer> hi!
[02:23] <RichiH> torch, defendguin: this DDC send foo makes you quit
[02:23] <torch> so that's why I get disconnected
[02:23] <thx4help> cafuego, you mean Firefox is faster on 32 bit than 64 bit?
[02:23] <Madpilot> !exploit
[02:23] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware or connect to irc.freenode.net:8001 - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068
[02:23] <Madpilot> torch & defendguin - see the bot above ^^^
[02:23] <engla> well anyway, Q: How do I get spam filtering with Evolution to work? Why does not the supposedly preinstalled bogofilter work?
[02:23] <RichiH> torch: yah, that is why
[02:23] <cafuego> thx4help: Yep. Most desktop apps are. Optimisation etc. 64bit if mainly an advantage for database stuff, heavy i/o, development.
[02:24] <heatxsink> RichiH:  why?
[02:24] <RichiH> !tell heatxsink about exploit
[02:24] <RichiH> hmm
[02:24] <RichiH> not a blootbot, apparently
[02:24] <christoffer> I could need some help here.. i installed ubuntu linux on my laptop.. i know the OS it working, but it wont come anything on my screen. Why?
[02:24] <eduj> how would i set ubuntu up to be able to print? the printer's a Canon BJC-3000..
[02:24] <RichiH> heatxsink: read what i said to torch and defendguin
[02:24] <heatxsink> k
[02:24] <Madpilot> RichiH, it's customized, it does the !tell foo about bar stuff, it doesn't report back , though
[02:25] <RichiH> ah, k
[02:25] <Goldfisch> Well, XChat doesn't think there is an irc.freenode.net:8001.
[02:25] <thx4help> cafuego interesting
[02:25] <RichiH> Goldfisch: there is a port option in the server config
[02:25] <christoffer> I could need some help here.. i installed ubuntu linux on my laptop.. i know the OS it working, but it wont come anything on my screen. Why?
[02:25] <RichiH> Goldfisch: or do /server irc.freenode.nec 8001
[02:25] <eduj> .net*
[02:26] <cafuego> thx4help: Keep in mind there is no flash or java plugin for 64bit and most nkin-native video codecs don't work either.
[02:26] <thedaniel_> Hey folks, I have a quick question - my girlfriend is too broke to buy a new computer, but I want her to have a laptop.  Are there any models that I couild pick up for 50-150 bucks on ebay that you'd recommend as particularly suited to a quick, cheap machine for ubuntu/xubuntu?
[02:26] <thedaniel_> at first i thought ibook g3, but they hold their value too well.  Maybe thinkpad x series from about 3-4 yrs ago?
[02:26] <torch> there are laptops on ebay for only 50-150?
[02:26] <torch> ho shit
[02:26] <torch> I gotta get in on that
[02:27] <thedaniel_> yeah, i just saw a thinkpad x20 go for like 160
[02:27] <thedaniel_> i guess i could go up to 200
[02:27] <skarface> there are scammers on ebay, too
[02:27] <gnomefreak> torch: please watch your language
[02:27] <cfedde> My son has ubuntu on an old HP omnibook 800.
[02:27] <torch> I can't say the s word?
[02:27] <Goldfisch> Where is the port setting in XChat? I can't see any myself.
[02:27] <RichiH> don't buy the laptops advertised via irc
[02:27] <RichiH> under no circumstances
[02:27] <thedaniel_> cfedde: how is it for snappiness?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> Goldfisch: under servers>edit
[02:27] <RichiH> you will never see them
[02:27] <cfedde> thedaniel_: a bit pokey. Everhthing except OpenOffice is pretty reasonable.
[02:27] <christoffer> Can anyone help me please?
[02:28] <cafuego> RichiH: Why not? Honestly stolen not 3 days ago! Brand new!
[02:28] <torch> I have ubuntu running on an old gateway
[02:28] <torch> changing to xubuntu
[02:28] <eduj> what's the main diffs between x/ubuntu?
[02:28] <torch> xubuntu is mad fast
[02:28] <rsk> different desktops
[02:28] <thedaniel_> cfedde: that's like a 200mhz proc!
[02:28] <Goldfisch> I tried that. It just puts me on the line listing the server name. I typed irc.freenode.net:8001, and then tried to connect. It didn't seem to like it.
[02:28] <torch> hell
[02:28] <christoffer> I could need some help here.. i installed ubuntu linux on my laptop.. i know the OS it working, but it wont come anything on my screen. Why?
[02:29] <torch> xubuntu ran fast off the cd for me
[02:29] <cfedde> thedaniel_: 400Mhz iirc
[02:29] <RichiH> cafuego: well, people should get cautious when the guy, mike odgen by name living in toronto by the way, wants money via western union
[02:29] <bur[n] er> christoffer: what if you try the failsafe option?
[02:29] <christoffer> umh.. im new in linux
[02:29] <Dr4g> I'm wanting to listen to a music stream, what apps can i use on ubuntu
[02:29] <thedaniel_> So i bet a 900mhz thinkpad would just kick ass for 'normal person' use
[02:29] <cafuego> RichiH: Hmmyeah, this is why I tend to buy online from 1) large companies or 2) local shops.
[02:29] <eduj> ^_^ i guess i'm know better by this nick heh
[02:30] <RichiH> indeedy
[02:30] <isos> Hi
[02:30] <eduj> :/ nevermind, irssi won't change the name :O
[02:30] <thedaniel_> torch: did you find xubuntu / xfce to be somethiing a total noob could use?
[02:30] <torch> yeah
[02:30] <eduj> anyway, me's unio =)
[02:30] <cfedde> thedaniel_: probably 900mhz is still pretty reasonable.
[02:30] <torch> I'm not even good with linux in any way
[02:30] <torch> and ubuntu is easy to get into
[02:30] <torch> sort of
[02:30] <bur[n] er> christoffer: when you boot... you get a menu to choose different boot options, pick failsafe
[02:30] <isos> does anyone know how to define bluetooth of a laptop which has ubuntu?
[02:30] <torch> the whole 'compiling a lot of the things you get' is still a pain though
[02:30] <bur[n] er> !bluetooth
[02:30] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[02:30] <eduj> !printer
[02:30] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:31] <haga> hey, i know this is offtopic but how come when i hook up my xbox 360 to my 20" LCD T.V., i only get 480p ?
[02:31] <torch> !vnc
[02:31] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[02:31] <eduj> !printing
[02:31] <eduj> =(
[02:31] <thedaniel_> torch: my first linux install was slackware on an old 200mhz pentium 2 and i rememer it was just such a pain in the ass - and i haven't used linux for a couple yeras now since i got macs, and ubuntu AMAZED me with ease of use.
[02:31] <torch> yeah
[02:31] <torch> it's mad cool ;)
[02:31] <bur[n] er> thedaniel_: you don't have a mac mini do you?
[02:31] <torch> I'm trying to find a way to do vnc between windows and ubuntu
[02:31] <cafuego> haga: Coz TV has crap resolution. Does the 360 supposedly do HD tv?
[02:31] <greyscale> how do you install using RPM?
[02:31] <haga> cafuego: hell yes
[02:31] <cafuego> greyscale: NOT
[02:31] <bur[n] er> torch: get the "ultravnc" viewer or "tightvnc" viewer
[02:32] <greyscale> cafuego, then how do I install from RPM?
[02:32] <Goldfisch> Okay, I manually used /server irc.freenode.net 8001 and got it. However, I can't seem to configure it in the server list. It complains that "irc.freenode.net:8001" host doesn't exist.
[02:32] <torch> I have tightvnc on windows
[02:32] <cafuego> haga: Prolly some setting somewhere then
[02:32] <bur[n] er> torch: on linux, just enable the remote desktop via preferences
[02:32] <torch> I don't know how to make it work on ubuntu though
[02:32] <thedaniel_> bur[n] er: no, i have an ibook and a macbook
[02:32] <torch> already enabled it
[02:32] <bur[n] er> torch: server or viewer on linux?
[02:32] <cafuego> greyscale: Find a .deb version of the software. What is it?
[02:32] <torch> server on linux
[02:32] <greyscale> cafuego, vmware
[02:32] <thedaniel_> bu[r] ner: and i had a g4 quicksilver desktop, but is old it
[02:32] <bur[n] er> thedaniel_: how's the macbook with linux?  i'm tempted to get one of those
[02:32] <isos> I have a laptop with ubuntu dapper installation and I need to define the bluetooth which comes with the laptop
[02:32] <cafuego> greyscale: Use the .tar.gz download.
[02:32] <greyscale> I tried alien and its screwing up
[02:32] <bur[n] er> thedaniel_: any right-clicking ability?
[02:32] <greyscale> eep source
[02:32] <eduj> how do i get gcc to tell me when i hit a Segmentation Fault? (i've seen it in screenshots, video tutorials, etc.) -- i'm exploring buffer overflows at the moment; trying to get back into comp security :)
[02:33] <cafuego> greyscale: The source works [tm]  - I use it myself.
[02:33] <bur[n] er> isos: check that link I posted about bluetooth!
[02:33] <torch> so what should I do?
[02:33] <greyscale> lol
[02:33] <isos> where?
[02:33] <engla> eduj: gdb you mean? (debugger)
[02:33] <bur[n] er> !bluetooth
[02:33] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[02:33] <cafuego> greyscale: if you want to keep it manageable, run it rhough 'checkinstall'.
[02:33] <eduj> engla: yes, my bad >_<
[02:33] <thedaniel_> bur[n] er: i just got it friday, and it effin rules with OSx - i just wiped the ibook g4 for ubuntu and ubuntu runs SO SO SO SO well on it.  There's an app to make rightclick easer, but it automatially maps to f12 for onw
[02:33] <surgy> hello
[02:33] <greyscale> cafuego, whut?
[02:33] <surgy> can someone help me please?
[02:33] <surgy> i am new to ubuntu
[02:33] <eduj> what do you need help with?
[02:33] <bur[n] er> thedaniel_: thanks for the feedback... f12 works :) not as cool as the two finger click like in OS X, but workable
[02:34] <torch> still there, bur[n] er?
[02:34] <surgy> i downloaded the ubuntu iso and installed it and booted into it
[02:34] <bur[n] er> thedaniel_: wireless and hardware works as expected?
[02:34] <surgy> how do i make it install?
[02:34] <thedaniel_> bur[n] er: i read on a forum about a nice right click tool - or you could use xkeycaps and map right-command to f12
[02:34] <bur[n] er> surgy: there's an icon on the desktop that says "install" assuming this is dapper
[02:34] <surgy> it will only go into the "live cd" but i want to install it
[02:34] <cafuego> greyscale: 'apt-cache show checkinstall'.
[02:34] <greyscale> cool
[02:35] <surgy> so i just click the desktop icon?
[02:35] <thedaniel_> bur[n] er: everything, including brightness and volume hardware keys works out of box.  wireless required apt-getting a driver and running one shells cript
[02:35] <bur[n] er> surgy: when you get the livecd booted, you have an icon on teh desktop that says "install"  yes
[02:35] <surgy> ok kewl
[02:35] <defendguin> RichiH: i upgraded my firmware again to the latest version
[02:35] <surgy> seeya
[02:35] <surgy> think 20gb is enough?
[02:35] <bur[n] er> thedaniel_: very cool... I really think I'm getting one later this month
[02:35] <torch> more than enough
[02:35] <isos> surgy: which version are u intending to install?
[02:35] <surgy> the typicle install with allg raphics is <2gb right?
[02:35] <torch> I have ubuntu on a comp with 10 gb
[02:35] <greyscale> uable to locate package checkinstall =S
[02:35] <RichiH> defendguin: good :)
[02:35] <surgy> ubutu
[02:35] <surgy> unbutu drake
[02:35] <defendguin> RichiH: i was only one version behind
[02:35] <cafuego> !info checkinstall
[02:35] <ubotu> checkinstall: installation tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.3-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 132 kB
[02:36] <thedaniel_> bur[n] er: i love my macbook - with the screen turned all the way down to one bar of brightness it is still brighter than my ibook at full brightness
[02:36] <surgy> ok thnx guys
[02:36] <cafuego> greyscale: Ah, 't is in universe.
[02:36] <greyscale> surgy, I recommend 5GB if you want to use it >>
[02:36] <torchie> this is the computer on ubuntu
[02:36] <torchie> <-- torch
[02:36] <greyscale> Same
[02:36] <cafuego> greyscale: Basically, it tracks which files are installed and compresses them into a custom .deb file.
[02:36] <surgy> greyscale: im giving it 20gb
[02:36] <greyscale> O_o
[02:36] <isos> at least 5GB
[02:36] <greyscale> I've got a whole 80 for mine
[02:36] <greyscale> at least 5, yes
[02:36] <greyscale> lamer.,
[02:37] <thedaniel_> that guy's name is *not* ttyfscker
[02:37] <greyscale> lol @ ttyfscker's name
[02:37] <xepher> lol
[02:37] <greyscale> how depressingly geeky.
[02:37] <ttyfscker> what?
[02:37] <greyscale> your name.
[02:37] <greyscale> Its funny
[02:38] <greyscale> and geeky at the same time
[02:38] <ttyfscker> where you guys been?
[02:38] <ttyfscker> i've been around here forever
[02:38] <greyscale> mooching
[02:38] <ardchoille> ttyfscker: hehe
[02:38] <isos> I have 15Gb for my ubuntu installation and with all the applications I need and might need I have 10GB of used space
[02:38] <greyscale> I'm new here
[02:38] <greyscale> like, today
[02:38] <ardchoille> ttyfscker: Some folks just now realised your nick
[02:38] <ttyfscker> haha
[02:38] <ttyfscker> i mostly idle in here anymore
[02:38] <RichiH> defendguin: well, that might make all the difference
[02:38] <greyscale> lol
[02:39] <RichiH> defendguin: if you want, we can join a seperate channel and test it
[02:39] <ttyfscker> too many ops in here sending us to the offtopic chans for conversations like this.. so i tend to just stay in my other groups room at #linuxsociety
[02:39] <defendguin> RichiH: what channel?
[02:39] <greyscale> atoponce, what was that about?
[02:39] <eduj> ok, i've got an example -- i set the buffer to 20; didn't do any checking, just took the input with gets(), ran the prog in GDB, input "AAAAABBBBBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD" (more than 20 chars), but it says it exited normally? how do i get gdb to tell me when i hit a segmentation fault?
[02:39] <gnomefreak> ttyfscker: but yet you dont listen
[02:39] <RichiH> defendguin: #defendguin
[02:39] <eduj> btw, this is in C
[02:40] <AnI> any suggestions of a remote fileshare browser for XfCE?
[02:40] <atoponce> greyscale: trying to get my cloak back.
[02:40] <greyscale> lol
[02:40] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: what was that for?
[02:40] <gnomefreak> being offtopic as you said it yourself
[02:40] <bur[n] er> AnI: konqueror or nautilus :)  or use smbmount and thunar
[02:40] <eduj> brb
[02:40] <sizzam> anyone have a minute to help me share one of my folders with a windows box via samba?
[02:40] <bur[n] er> AnI: there's also xffm
[02:40] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: i never bother any of you guys in here.... i was just replying to my nick giving me a highlight in here
[02:40] <greyscale> sizzam, sire
[02:40] <greyscale> *sure
[02:40] <kingrayray> How do I make MPD start on boot??
[02:40] <bur[n] er> !samba
[02:40] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:40] <kingrayray> PLEASE :(
[02:41] <AnI> well burner
[02:41] <greyscale> sizzam, wanna start a new channel for it?
[02:41] <sizzam> greyscale: i'm looking at the tutorial on ubuntugide
[02:41] <AnI> yeah i have samba
[02:41] <bur[n] er> sizzam: read that --^
[02:41] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: you know as well as i do that i am mostly not saying anything unless its help.. now you go and kick me for that
[02:41] <AnI> i have it set up
[02:41] <AnI> i can access share from xp side
[02:41] <sizzam> greyscale: brb
[02:41] <RichiH> defendguin: good :)
[02:41] <atoponce> there we go
[02:41] <atoponce> sorry
[02:41] <bur[n] er> AnI: that was meants for sizzam  ;)  for you... try xffm
[02:41] <defendguin> RichiH: that just came across as text
[02:41] <greyscale> sizzam: #lolsamba
[02:41] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: overusage of power is against freenode policy...
[02:41] <RichiH> defendguin: it is nothing more
[02:41] <AnI> but xubuntu does not come with a file browser like network neighborhood
[02:41] <gnomefreak> ttyfscker: this is not the place for this and knowing your breaking rules is out of ignorance not not knowing
[02:41] <AnI> ty burner
[02:41] <RichiH> defendguin: that text will make very many routers kill the connection
[02:42] <bur[n] er> AnI: not yet... thunar will have that ability eventually
[02:42] <defendguin> wow
[02:42] <defendguin> how silly
[02:42] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: wtf do you think i mentioned it for? i wasnt breaking rules.. i was telling people to stfu except in other words.. my god
[02:42] <kingrayray> How do I make MPD start on boot...? anybody? =/
[02:43] <RichiH> defendguin: well, that text can, in a totally different place, mean sth bad
[02:43] <bur[n] er> kingrayray: doesn't it already?
[02:43] <RichiH> irc is text-based
[02:43] <RichiH> so.. ;)
[02:43] <kingrayray> bur[n] er: it's apparently supposed to automatically install itself into init.. but it didn't
[02:43] <kingrayray> so i need to do it manually.
[02:44] <bur[n] er> kingrayray: it show up in "system -> administration -> services" ?
[02:44] <kingrayray> i don't think so, but i'm checking
[02:44] <kingrayray> no it doesn't.
[02:44] <bur[n] er> bummer... i'm not sure the "right" way to do it
[02:44] <torchie> haha
[02:44] <kingrayray> me neither, i'm a rather new ubuntu convert
[02:44] <torchie> I got it working!
[02:44] <torchie> this is freaking sweet
[02:44] <mark105> how does one install the xvid codec for ubuntu? i cant find it in the repository
[02:45] <bur[n] er> you could put it in your gnome session script kingrayray, but that's not computer level and relies on logging into the gui
[02:45] <kingrayray> bur[n] er: yeah i want it to start before GDM.
[02:45] <bur[n] er> mark105: you need multiverse
[02:45] <bur[n] er> !codecs
[02:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:45] <kingrayray> on Gentoo my music would automagically start playing on boot, it was cool.
[02:45] <torchie> let's see
[02:45] <torchie> now what to do, since I'm controlling my other computer from over here...
[02:45] <torchie> ooh!
[02:45] <bur[n] er> kingrayray: sorry man... i haven't delved deep enough to figure out how to add a service ;)
[02:45] <torchie> let's see how that disc writing is doing
[02:45] <kingrayray> bur[n] er: thanks anyway =)
[02:46] <AnI> burner thx again xffm4 works great hopefully thudar will have it very soon
[02:46] <Nameeater> how can I make apt-get upgrade _not_ upgrade openoffice.org ?
[02:46] <torchie> ooh
[02:46] <bur[n] er> AnI: yw, I'm hoping too... xffm is so ghetto lookin ;)
[02:46] <torchie> I can even freaking eject the disc tray!
[02:47] <bur[n] er> Nameeater: apt-pinning comes to mind
[02:47] <torchie> this rocks
[02:47] <torchie> so hard
[02:47] <kingrayray> is torchie discovering ssh? hehehe
[02:47] <bur[n] er> vnc
[02:47] <Nameeater> bur[n] er: have any webpages on it? :/
[02:47] <kingrayray> oh
[02:47] <bur[n] er> Nameeater: google for it :)
[02:47] <kingrayray> =P
[02:47] <torchie> I just figured out how to get vnc working on ubuntu
[02:47] <kingrayray> excellent
[02:47] <Pyrotica> gnomefreak: wasn't that a little harsh kicking ttyfscker for mentioning that something was o/t and suggesting another place to go?
[02:47] <torchie> now I don't really need the monitor
[02:47] <gnomefreak> PreZ: thats not why i kicked him nor banned him
[02:48] <Nameeater> bur[n] er: I have tried and the one page I found and I tried to make work hasnt ;)
[02:48] <Pyrotica> rrright.
[02:48] <bur[n] er> Nameeater: try the wiki or ubuntuforums
[02:48] <gnomefreak> Pyrotica: stop ban dodging
[02:48] <bur[n] er> Nameeater: or just do an apt-get upgrade -s and manually upgrade all other packages ;)
[02:48] <Pyrotica> ok. operator > nazi
[02:49] <jrattner1> QUESTION: Does anyone here use a Treo 650 or Treo 700p with Dapper?
[02:50] <jrattner1> ?
[02:50] <Lil-Abner> Can anyone help me with Automatix installation?
[02:51] <gnomefreak> Lil-Abner: try in #automatix
[02:51] <YeTr2_> I have a 'perminatly attached' removable device, and I would prefer it's link on the desktop not show up. is there any way I could keep this device off the desktop?
[02:51] <Lil-Abner> ok, thanks
[02:51] <naura> YeTr2_, there's an option to disable showing volumes on the desktop in gconf.
[02:52] <naura> but that'll disable all of them.
[02:52] <YeTr2_> naura: yeah, I only want the one disabled
[02:52] <naura> YeTr2_, sorry, can't help you then.
[02:52] <YeTr2_> bah...
[02:52] <bur[n] er> YeTr2_: i think if you put it in your /etc/fstab manually it won't show up as a removable
[02:52] <YeTr2_> nope, still shows up
[02:53] <Corporal_Dirge> YeTr2_, I have the same issue. The Windows OS parition shows up on the desktop.
[02:53] <YeTr2_> It's kinda messed up that if it was formatted ext# or reiserfs, it wouldn't show
[02:53] <unio> !security
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about security - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <xrothgarx> what is the vi command for save and quit?
[02:53] <unio> :(
[02:53] <bur[n] er> YeTr2_: just use ext3 :)  windows can read that with fs-driver.org
[02:54] <JohnP789> xrothgarx: :wq
[02:54] <unio> :O
[02:54] <YeTr2_> It's gona be my paranoid security storage device, and I would like to beable to reach in my PC and take it out to drag where ever
[02:55] <xrothgarx> thx
[02:55] <unio> does anyone have any docs on securing ubuntu?
[02:55] <bur[n] er> YeTr2_: sorry man... I was trying for ya ;)
[02:55] <YeTr2_> the other is, I couldn't get nvidia working to save the world in ububtu
[02:55] <Goldfisch> I'm having trouble getting madwifi-ng to work with dapper/amd64. I uninstalled the linux-restricted modules, and downloaded madwifi-ng source, then built it. Still no good. However, it works fine in debian64. Anybody know about this?
[02:56] <bur[n] er> nvidia works here :)   full on XGL prettiness even
[02:56] <YeTr2_> ...
[02:56] <marco2391> My friends keep telling me to switch to ubuntu, but they don't give any reasons.  Could anyone give me a good reason to switch from Debian Sid to ubuntu?
[02:56] <YeTr2_> I think this machine hates debian based distros
[02:56] <Madpilot> unio, it's quite secure by default - what do you want to do?
[02:57] <YeTr2_> marco2391: use what you like, and don't listen to those who wish to change something you already have going
[02:57] <unio> not sure, but it's probably just the used to windows part of me talking, heh, madpilot
[02:57] <Goldfisch> For security, you can install and run bastille. It is a question-and-answer script that lets you pick and choose what parts to lock down.
[02:57] <xrothgarx> about vi,  when you say :wq what exactly am I typing? I thought it was like ctrl-x or something
[02:57] <xrothgarx> I am useless without my gui
[02:57] <unio> xrothgarx: that's pico
[02:57] <marco2391> xrothgarx, type ESCAPE, the :wq
[02:57] <marco2391> *then
[02:57] <xrothgarx> ohhhh, frick, thanks
[02:57] <marco2391> wq means write&quit
[02:58] <Madpilot> unio, well, Ubuntu doesn't need antivirus, or anti-spyware... you could install a firewall, but that's not really needed either...
[02:58] <unio> cool! :D
[02:58] <xrothgarx> that makes so much sence why I was lost
[02:59] <Goldfisch> Well...GNU/Linux in general doesn't need anti-spyware/anti-virus/anti-whatever.  Any linux distribution will do in that regard.
[02:59] <marco2391> xrothgarx, to exit without saving changes it's :q!
[02:59] <marco2391> the ! forces it to quit without saving
[03:00] <xrothgarx> I think I was really lost on doing Esc first then typing the commands
[03:00] <xrothgarx> I guess I always was using pico before
[03:00] <Goldfisch> ESC is just to exit out of edit mode and return back to command mode.
[03:01] <hush> do any of you use Wine - If so, I need some help - the person in #WineHQ is of no help whatsoever
[03:01] <marco2391> hush, what's the prob?
[03:01] <marco2391> hush, don't ask to ask, just ask ;)
[03:02] <hush> thanks marco
[03:02] <unio> i think i'm having the same prob
[03:02] <Will_Cego> hi
[03:02] <kditty> how do i go about configuring samba?
[03:02] <unio> it says 'wine is an unknown command' after i do 'sudo apt-get install wine'
[03:02] <Will_Cego> do i need all 5 cds to install Suse?
[03:02] <marco2391> kditty, web interface
[03:02] <hush> I followed the instructions on winehq to install Wine - I'm pretty sure it went smoothly and installed but I'm not sure what to do next.
[03:02] <kditty> dapper stopped detecting my windows network :\
[03:02] <marco2391> ermm
[03:02] <Goldfisch> unio: Try opening a fresh shell. And then do "which wine".
[03:02] <marco2391> hush, in ubuntu it's just "apt-get install wine"
[03:02] <dou213> hey guys, what package must i install in ubuntu to have in the middle-bottom screen that icon-panel?
[03:02] <unio> Goldfisch: thanks, i'll try that now =)
[03:03] <kditty> marco2391, what is web interface?
[03:03] <hush> thanks marco
[03:03] <marco2391> kditty, one sec
[03:03] <Goldfisch> No, in ubuntu you have to "sudo" things, since you aren't root.
[03:03] <unio> `which wine' didn't return anything (not an error though)
[03:03] <kditty> unio, try sudo?
[03:04] <unio> kditty: huh?
[03:04] <hush> marco - pastebin?
[03:04] <kditty> sudo which wine
[03:04] <Goldfisch> unio: You can launch synaptic, and then search for wine. When you find the package, you can right-click and check the properties. One of the panels will list the files, and look for what got put into /usr/bin
[03:04] <marco2391> hush, pastebin or PM, at your pleasure ;)
[03:04] <hush> cool
[03:04] <FirstStrike> dou213: gnome-panel?
[03:04] <marco2391> hush, I'm not one of those people who go nuts when PMed
[03:04] <FirstStrike> !pastebin
[03:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:04] <dou213> FirstStrike, i'll try it
[03:05] <unio> brb, trying what Goldfisch suggested
[03:05] <FirstStrike> or just compile wine yourself
[03:05] <FirstStrike> it's easy -and- fun :P
[03:05] <marco2391> unio, dpkg-query -L wine
[03:05] <marco2391> that's it
[03:05] <dou213> nope, u know, in elive are at the bottom of the screen some icons... i want that panel in ubuntu
[03:05] <marco2391> no need for synaptic
[03:06] <Madpilot> FirstStrike, you have a very twisted idea of "fun" ;)
[03:06] <FirstStrike> >:P
[03:06] <unio> thank's marco2391
[03:06] <marco2391> kditty, apt-get install swat
[03:07] <hush> marco2391 - PMd you
[03:07] <Goldfisch> unio: I just installed wine myself, and see /usr/bin/wine. Maybe had a bad install? I see wine is listed in the universe. Do you have that repository enabled?
[03:07] <jrattner1> Anyone have any suggestions on getting my Treo 650 or Treo 700p to sync with evolution
[03:07] <unio> `package wine has no installation candidate', after i found out it's not installed with dpkg -L wine
[03:07] <FirstStrike> dou213: um..you don't have a panel at all?
[03:07] <Madpilot> unio, you need to enable the Universe repo to get wine
[03:07] <unio> universe :S
[03:07] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell unio about universe
[03:07] <FirstStrike> http://strikethis.com/theme.png <- nothing that looks like what's on the bottom of my desktop?
[03:08] <Madpilot> hush, you can only PM people when you're registered & identified, btw
[03:08] <hush> oooh
[03:08] <Madpilot> unio, check the PM the bot just sent you ;)
[03:08] <hush> how do i do that
[03:08] <FirstStrike> ./msg nickserv help register
[03:08] <FirstStrike> type that
[03:08] <unio> Madpilot: i can't accept PMs via irssi heh
[03:08] <kditty> marco2391, how do i run swat?
[03:08] <dou213> FirstStrike, yes, i have a panel... but on the bottom of my desktop, i want some icons... so i can access quicker some apps
[03:08] <unio> >_<
[03:08] <hush> ty firstrike
[03:09] <FirstStrike> right click on the panel dou213
[03:09] <Madpilot> unio, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[03:09] <FirstStrike> click "Add to panel"
[03:09] <unio> thank you, Madpilot
[03:09] <marco2391> kditty, open your web browser
[03:09] <FirstStrike> and go from there
[03:09] <lukus001> Hey can someone tell me how to fix this:    I installed vmware player from ubuntu repositories which went wrong for soem reason.  I got an error when isntalling and now it wont let me uninstall it and i get the error vmware-player: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
[03:09] <marco2391> kditty, and then type "http://localhost:901" in the address bar
[03:10] <marco2391> hush, I didn't get it
[03:10] <marco2391> It's because you aren't registered
[03:10] <hush> im tryin to figure out how to register a name so it will let me :(
[03:11] <marco2391> hush, /ns register PASSWORDHERE
[03:11] <jrattner1> If I join the ubuntu mailing list, how can i write an email to it to ask a question
[03:11] <hush> somebody already has my username!
[03:11] <FirstStrike> insert 25 cents
[03:11] <jrattner1> neverind : )
[03:11] <dromedary> My computer has slowed down tremendously;  are there any programs I can run to speed it up?
[03:11] <FirstStrike> uhh
[03:12] <marco2391> dromedary, try closing firefox
[03:12] <FirstStrike> dromedary: type top in a command prompt and check to see what's consuming your resources
[03:12] <Goldfisch> dromedary: top
[03:12] <dromedary> ...
[03:12] <marco2391> firefox is the number one cause of slow computers
[03:12] <marco2391> ;)
[03:12] <dromedary> 8<
[03:12] <YeTr2_> grr...
[03:12] <FirstStrike> FF doesn't slow my PC down
[03:12] <YeTr2_> I want nvidia working damnit >.<
[03:13] <marco2391> FirstStrike, maybe you have infinite amounts of RAM, but the rest of us don't ;)
[03:13] <FirstStrike> what's the problem YeTr2_?
[03:13] <FirstStrike> well, 2 gb
[03:13] <rummik> i just downloaded the rt2500 drivers using synaptic, and i can't figure out how to compile them, because the directory they are unpacked to is locked
[03:13] <marco2391> the memory leak in firefox is considered a "feature" by firefox devs
[03:13] <rummik> how am i supposed to compile them?
[03:13] <FirstStrike> i don't run FF 24/7 either; i only run it when i need it
[03:13] <fit4lfe__> how do I mount an iso for a game then use wine to install it ?
[03:13] <exs> How do I get more screensavers, and how do I turn the screensaver on? (for a preview)
[03:13] <YeTr2_> FirstStrike: It absolutely refuses to work and doesn't give me squat in the way of error messages, the keyboard is always locked up and the mouse cursor onlt appears about 30% of the time
[03:14] <xrothgarx> I am using kubuntu 6.06 on my widescreen samsung.  I have a nvidia 6200 with nvidia 8756.  howe do I make it use the widecreen and change the resolution?
[03:14] <hush`> marco2391: pmd
[03:14] <greyscale> lol I made a tuna taco
[03:14] <marco2391> rummik, sudo passwd root putyourpasshere & su  <-- Work from there
[03:14] <FirstStrike> hmm, what drivers are you using YeTr2_?
[03:14] <marco2391> hush`, Same thing ^
[03:14] <xrothgarx> I looked in the nvidia server settings but didn't find anything about resolution
[03:14] <cafuego> xrothgarx: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and pick the resolutions you want.
[03:14] <Madpilot> marco2391, that's not a good solution
[03:14] <hush`> what about now
[03:15] <FirstStrike> xrothgarx: system > preferences > screen resolution
[03:15] <unio> yay! wine is installing now :D
[03:15] <rummik> marco2391: thanks, i was wondering how to su without the password
[03:15] <Madpilot> rummik, check the permissions on that directory
[03:15] <marco2391> Madpilot, I don't care to get into an argument about sudo vs su, we could go at it all day
[03:15] <dou213> FirstStrike, look at this: http://www.tuxmachines.org/gallery/albums/elive04/e16.jpg
[03:15] <erdrick> how do i enable rendering
[03:15] <Madpilot> rummik,  use sudo, not su
[03:15] <dou213> see the bottom of the screen?
[03:15] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell rummik about sudo
[03:15] <rummik> Madpilot: it's root:src
[03:15] <YeTr2_> FirstStrike: nvidia-glx-1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-3
[03:15] <marco2391> Madpilot, sudo has various security flaws and it's dangerous
[03:15] <hush`> how do i send PMs?
[03:15] <marco2391> not to mention that su is simpler
[03:16] <rummik> Madpilot: and in the past i've only used su to compile drivers
[03:16] <YeTr2_> FirstStrike: linux-image-2.6.15-26-k7
[03:16] <marco2391> Madpilot, most people don't want to type sudo in front of every step
[03:16] <unio> hush`: /msg <user> <message>
[03:16] <xepher> anyone get NetworkManager to install?
[03:16] <Madpilot> marco2391, then use 'sudo -i'...
[03:17] <unio> !su
[03:17] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:17] <FirstStrike> YeTr2_: try installing the previous driver version (the .7x series)
[03:17] <unio> ah =)
[03:17] <marco2391> Madpilot, which has no advantage over su whatsoever
[03:17] <linlin> I need a linux VPN server that is capable of listening for connections on port 80 and accepting both linux and windows clients. Any ideas?
[03:17] <marco2391> Madpilot, unless you want to practice your typing that is
[03:17] <FirstStrike> also, perhaps it would be better for you to download the .run file and compile it instead of apt-get'ing it
[03:17] <Madpilot> marco2391, nevertheless, Ubuntu is set up to work with sudo - advocating setting up a root pw is not very helpful...
[03:17] <rummik> Madpilot: oh wow, sudo -i is nice ^_^
[03:18] <rummik> Madpilot: now i know what to use for drivers now...
[03:18] <FirstStrike> dou213: oh..you're not running gnome. you're on your own with that one :P
[03:18] <Managu> I was under the impression that #ubuntu+1 was for holy wars
[03:18] <marco2391> Madpilot, linux is about choice, ubuntu is not "setup" for anything, it just happens to disable the root account by default.  One command changes that so called "set-up"
[03:18] <AlienX> Madpilot, I don't think that's entirely true. I always enable the root account on every ubuntu box I setup
[03:18] <erdrick> i just installed the new radeon drivers how do i get my computer to use the ati drivers instead of the mesa drivers
[03:19] <FirstStrike> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:19] <YeTr2_> FirstStrike: no change
[03:19] <ardchoille> marco2391: The supported config is to leave the root account disabled and use sudo.. anything else is ot for this channel
[03:19] <FirstStrike> it's not overheating is it YeTr2_? that would be another reason for it to lock up
[03:19] <YeTr2_> no
[03:19] <Managu> linlin: serious?  Maybe hack something together with SSH?
[03:20] <YeTr2_> it works just fine when I load it with nv
[03:20] <coder_> Well, hello all.  I'm a new ex-SuSE,ex-Fedora, new Ubuntu user :o)
[03:20] <linlin> I really need it for my buddy off in college, they are internet nazis there and his voip stuff wont work
[03:20] <FirstStrike> interesting
[03:20] <linlin> thats the only way for him to keep in touch with his freinds/loved ones
[03:20] <hermes01> Is it possible to play music/sounds and talk on skype at the same time?  I get an error when trying to use XMMS once I'm using skype.  (I've looked this up on the forums and can't find a working answer - snd_intel8x0/AC'97
[03:21] <coder_> I've got a problem, I can't seem to find WINE :/
[03:21] <DragnFly> the ubuntu live cd doesn't recognize my fat32 harddrive partitions. I dont know much about linux, but how do i make it recognize its there?
[03:21] <dou213>  hey guys, i want a panel like the one on the bottom of this screen: http://www.tuxmachines.org/gallery/albums/elive04/e16.jpg
[03:21] <Madpilot> hermes01, that's a known Skype bug, I don't know a fix for it
[03:21] <Madpilot> coder_, it's in the Universe repository in Ubuntu
[03:21] <hermes01> Madpilot:  Thanks, crappy little bug.
[03:21] <coder_> Hmmm, for AMD 64bit Ubuntu? :/
[03:21] <coder_> I couldn't find it there
[03:21] <Madpilot> coder_, for 64bit, you might be SOL...
[03:21] <coder_> I need to run some VST instruments through WINE
[03:22] <xrothgarx> linlin: the vnc serever ubuntu installs uses real vnc server which can be configured to watch on any port I think
[03:22] <Managu> coder_: even if you could, it probably wouldn't work
[03:22] <xrothgarx> and there are clients available for all OS's
[03:22] <coder_> I needs zee WINE :P
[03:22] <unio> haha
[03:22] <linlin> hmm thats possible xrothgarx
[03:22] <Managu> coder_: you might either (a) install the 32bit x86 version of Ubuntu, or (b) look at the wiki for info on setting up a 32-bit chroot
[03:22] <coder_> The nice JACK setup that Linux has is useless without VSTs
[03:22] <coder_> I'll look into those
[03:22] <kruncher> ok dude(s), ubuntus totally pissing me off
[03:23] <dromedary> Thanks guys.
[03:23] <coder_> All the software synthesizers on Linux sound lame that I've used
[03:23] <ardchoille> kruncher: What's the problem?
[03:23] <unio> kruncher: why? what'd y' need help with?
[03:23] <Goldfisch> I just looked up wine, and it is only listed with i386 version.
[03:23] <kruncher> for the last week or 2, my mp3s would stop working randomly. the only way to fix it was to delete my .xine folder
[03:23] <DragnFly> anyone care to point me in the right way?
[03:23] <kruncher> that happoned 4 times
[03:23] <kruncher> then now all the suddon my sound doesnt work at ALL
[03:23] <coder_> Can I just run the 32 bit version on WINE?
[03:23] <kruncher> no sounds at boot, no sounds in another account etc. and its not my speakers, windows works fine
[03:23] <coder_> On my 64bit system?
[03:24] <coder_> Like I did that with Firefox
[03:24] <coder_> 'cos Firefox 64 bit seems bugged
[03:24] <Managu> DragnFly: if you run "sudo fdisk -l" at a command prompt, are the fat32 partitions listed?
[03:24] <void^> win32 apps are almost exclusively 32bit
[03:24] <unio> xd!
[03:24] <coder_> Yeah, so would it work to run a 32 bit wine? :S
[03:25] <FirstStrike> dou213: wait wait..so you want a different GUI? install fluxbox
[03:25] <DragnFly> I haven't tried that, I think it knows they are there but wont mount them or whatever
[03:25] <FirstStrike> that'll give you a panel like that
[03:25] <deltab> kruncher: if you run programs that produce sound from the command line, do you see error messages?
[03:25] <joe_> I know you experts are prolly busy helping people, but just a quick question from a noob:  I just did a fresh install of ubuntu.  When i booted up grub was ok.  now i D/L all updates, restart and grub has duplicate listings for ubuntu
[03:26] <Managu> coder_: essentially, yes.  But you'll also need a 32bit version of the X libraries, a 32 bit version of the C library, a 32 bit compatible linker/loader (not sure on the last one).  Pretty much an entire functioning 32bit system.  That's the chroot option I mentioned.
[03:26] <joe_> why?
[03:26] <joe_> what can i do to fix?
[03:26] <marco2391> joe_, multiple kernels
[03:26] <marco2391> don't worry about it
[03:26] <coder_> Ah
[03:26] <marco2391> joe_, I recommend you don't touch the grub.conf file unless you know what you're doing
[03:26] <Corporal_Dirge> joe_, if you want you can remove the entries. Most likely if you look close the kernel is a slightly diffrent one.
[03:26] <deltab> joe_: it could be because of a new version of the kernel
[03:26] <kruncher> deltab: nothing is out putted, the programs act like they should except there is no sound
[03:27] <xepher> anyone know a good article about how to get compiz and nvidia working?
[03:27] <Corporal_Dirge> joe_, I'd just put a # at the start of the line to comment it out for a safer way to edit it.
[03:27] <joe_> ok, but if i select one over the other, will i be running the same kernel regardless?
[03:27] <NewtoUbuntu> Hey im trying to get Flash working..i was told to copy the certain file into the mozilla plugins but when i go to do that it says i dont have permision to write that folder, however im the only user and owner of this computer...
[03:27] <NewtoUbuntu> can any1 help me?
[03:27] <Goldfisch> joe_: There may also be "recovery" versions of the kernel to boot up into.
[03:27] <Corporal_Dirge> joe_, it'll be a diffrent kernel.
[03:27] <deltab> joe_: the menu entries should allow you to choose which kernel
[03:27] <wachunei> install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:27] <joe_> ok, thanks guys!
[03:27] <NewtoUbuntu> i gotta pay for that?
[03:27] <unio> i'll be back in a bit
[03:27] <wachunei> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfreee
[03:28] <wachunei> it's free xD
[03:28] <NewtoUbuntu> lol
[03:28] <coder_> I just found a tutorial for Dapper Drake 64 bit, installing WINE 32 bit without chroot
[03:28] <minerale> does anyone have any experience with sed? I'd like to appy a replacement only to lines that dont' start with # (uncommented lines) --- anyone know if that's possible with sed ?
[03:28] <coder_> I'll try that
[03:28] <wachunei> with to E
[03:28] <wachunei> *two
[03:28] <coder_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185557
[03:28] <NewtoUbuntu> what do i do after i install that wachunei
[03:28] <Tonren> Hey guys, is XGL/Compiz really unstable?
[03:29] <greyscale> Tonren, not really.
[03:29] <joe_> I love ubuntuforums.org..... best resouce i have EVER found (even though i am pretty new at linux)
[03:29] <greyscale> Its still going to crash every so often
[03:29] <greyscale> and its a bitch on resources to
[03:29] <wachunei> Tonren: no, i'm using it everyday now
[03:29] <greyscale> too
[03:29] <eyedol59> hello to everyone!
[03:29] <fr500_> hello
[03:29] <NewtoUbuntu> what do i do after i install that wachunei
[03:29] <kruncher> deltab: this all happoned while i was watching an avi in totem (kill bill 2) and then i tried to check a south park episode (avi) in mplayer, the sound just stopped working
[03:29] <Tonren> greyscale: wachunei: Hmm... sounds like it's still not for me.  I try to run as smooth as possible.
[03:29] <wachunei> Tonren: look at #ubuntu-xgl
[03:29] <fr500_> anyone with a laptop with working hibernate and suspend who can confirm something for me?
[03:30] <NewtoUbuntu> what do i do after i install that wachunei?
[03:30] <joe_> fr500_: I am using laptop with working hibernate and suspend!!
[03:30] <fr500_> joe_: do you use NetworkManager?
[03:30] <eyedol59> i am having trouble trying to mount a disk partition on my file system, can anybody give me a hand please?
[03:30] <Tonren> joe_: You got it working?! I worship you.
[03:30] <wachunei> Tonren:  sudo update-flashplugin
[03:30] <ekun> hi all
[03:30] <Tonren> wachunei: Mistell...?
[03:30] <fr500_> Tonren: works out of the box
[03:31] <CokeNCode> oh k guys, for the millionth time, my tv tuner card, saa7134
[03:31] <CokeNCode> won't work
[03:31] <NewtoUbuntu> what do i do after i install that wachunei
[03:31] <CokeNCode> it's killing me
[03:31] <ekun> how can i acess my windows disk from ubuntu to copy stuff from there (music etc..) ?
[03:31] <wachunei> Tonren:  sudo update-flashplugin
[03:31] <Tonren> BTW, doe sanyone know how to get rid of NetworkManager applet?  It appaers to be completely broken, and I just use the command line anyway.
[03:31] <CokeNCode> can anyone be of ANY assistance whatsoever
[03:31] <deltab> kruncher: check the sound mixer settings
[03:31] <wachunei> NewtoUbuntu: :  sudo update-flashplugin
[03:31] <Tonren> wachunei: Uh... I think you are telling the wrong person, dude
[03:31] <NewtoUbuntu> o ok
[03:31] <wachunei> i was talink to Ton
[03:31] <wachunei> ren XD
[03:31] <fr500_> Tonren: remove it from gnome-session-properties, but the applet works well
[03:31] <joe_> fr500_: Yes i use network manager, but i also use wifi-radar to manage wireless connections
[03:31] <kruncher> deltab: the thing next to the clock? i checked that everything is up and unmuted
[03:31] <Tonren> fr500_: It doesn't even detect my connection.
[03:31] <wachunei> Tonren: yes, i was confused XD
[03:31] <fr500_> oh
[03:32] <FirstStrike> ekun: type sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mount/directory -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 in a terminal where /mount/directory is the folder you're going to mount windows to. (sudo mkdir /media/windows for example)
[03:32] <coder_> Why are all my fonts but my terminal's all nice and anti-aliased?
[03:32] <fr500_> joe_: after resuming, doest it see your wifi card? the applet shows no cards after coming back from suspend/hibernate
[03:32] <coder_> Last time I ran my terminal, it became fugly :P
[03:32] <CokeNCode> yeh, my network thingie says 'no connection' just because i'm not using dhcp
[03:32] <deltab> kruncher: and the right device is selected? (I have two, somehow)
[03:32] <Kennyout> question.... when running off the Live CD....do you have to use a regular VGA cord, or can you use the DVI?...cause X fails to run for me because my cable is DVI
[03:32] <kruncher> deltab: yes
[03:32] <eyedol59> how can i mount a filesystem so that when i create a file, these file does not have execute permision?
[03:33] <fr500_> Kennyout: most likely refresh rate problem, not DVI problem
[03:33] <deltab> kruncher: anything in the kernel message log?
[03:33] <joe_> fr500_: yeah, everything works ok, but i am using a broadcom 4318 card, so i did ALOT of stuff to get it to work at first, so i may have done something unique to get it that way
[03:33] <AlexThunder> I was trying to use easy ubuntu, and after I applied changes to install my drivers, it gave me an error that read "could not apply changes! fix broken packages first. Can anyone help me?
[03:33] <kruncher> deltab: dmesg?
[03:33] <ekun> let me see if i got it, the directory i choose will be where i will see the windows right?
[03:33] <deltab> kruncher: yes
[03:33] <NewtoUbuntu> wachueni it doesnt do anythign when i type sudo update-flashplugin
[03:33] <FirstStrike> ekun: yes
[03:33] <fr500_> joe_ worked fine for me broke on reinstall
[03:33] <ekun> ok tks :)
[03:33] <wachunei> its okay
[03:34] <fr500_> joe_ another thing, can you try video playback after resume?
[03:34] <wachunei> NewtoUbuntu: try youtube and see if it works
[03:34] <erdrick> i just installed the latest radeon drivers how do i get the opengl and the rendering to work with it?
[03:34] <YeTr2_> FirstStrike: just installed the binary from nvidia's site, now I'm getting a 'Failed to load module "glx"
[03:34] <Kennyout> fr500_ how so refreshrate problem from the Live ?
[03:34] <YeTr2_> FirstStrike: also the nvidia module is not showing up either
[03:34] <fr500_> joe_ it gets garbled for me, just pink lines all around
[03:34] <NewtoUbuntu> youtube?
[03:34] <xepher> anyone have any tutorial for nvidia + compiz + xgl?
[03:34] <coder_> Sweet, got WINE working on amd64bit Dapper in 20 seconds :D
[03:34] <Flannel> xepher: #ubuntu-xgl
[03:34] <wachunei> yup... try youtube.com and see if the flash plugin works
[03:34] <fr500_> NewtoUbuntu: no youtube, normal video files
[03:34] <coder_> ubuntuforms how-to's are AMAZING
[03:34] <fr500_> joe_ please if you can confirm.
[03:35] <FirstStrike> sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[03:35] <joe_> fr500:  dont know about the video.  I had the same prob with network manager breaking on reinstall.   COMPLETELY remove network manager and its dependancies and do sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[03:35] <fr500_> Kennyout: monitor refresh rate, happens on old pcs for me all the time, try to lessen your vertical refresh rate on xorg config file
[03:35] <fr500_> joe_: kk
[03:35] <NewtoUbuntu> question...how do i do that firststrike
[03:35] <AlexThunder> I was trying to use easy ubuntu, and after I applied changes to install my drivers, it gave me an error that read "could not apply changes! fix broken packages first. Can anyone help me?
[03:35] <wachunei> NewtoUbuntu: didn't you were asking about flash and firefox?
[03:35] <kruncher> deltab: im not seeing anythign related to the card (except an entry for gameport)
[03:35] <NewtoUbuntu> yes correct
[03:36] <fr500_> joe_: for the video, all you have to do is play a video after resuming, if you can.
[03:36] <wachunei> AlexThunder: TRY automatix
[03:36] <wachunei> NewtoUbuntu: so?
[03:36] <wachunei> NewtoUbuntu: works?
[03:36] <ekun> worked like a charm tks FirstStrike
[03:36] <AlexThunder> wachunel: I just installed ubuntu, I have no idea what anything is
[03:36] <FirstStrike> np
[03:36] <Flannel> AlexThunder: #easyubuntu will be able to help
[03:36] <kruncher> deltab: i fired up alsamixer and turned up pcm (even tho pcm was turned up in sound mixer) and now it works...
[03:36] <wachunei> AlexThunder: www.getautomatix.com
[03:37] <fr500_> AlexThunder: in your programs menu
[03:37] <joe_> fr500_:k, im dl some stuff right now, cant suspend or hibernate right this sec
[03:37] <NewtoUbuntu> no it doesnt work
[03:37] <fr500_> ok np
[03:37] <ekun> what is the command so i can see all the disks so i can mout the others fdisk -l ?
[03:37] <wachunei> NewtoUbuntu: close and open firefox and try again.
[03:37] <NewtoUbuntu> when i typed the sudo update thign it didnt do anything at all
[03:37] <FirstStrike> ekun: mount
[03:37] <wachunei> it's okay NewtoUbuntu
[03:37] <__mikem> wachunei, I relayed your problem to one of the ops, he wants you to go to #ubuntu-classroom
[03:37] <fr500_> ekun, just sudo mound
[03:38] <fr500_> sudo mount
[03:38] <ekun> ok tks
[03:38] <ekun> :)
[03:38] <wachunei> __mikem: okay
[03:38] <xrothgarx> how do I restart the xsession with kubuntu?
[03:38] <xrothgarx> besides just restarting the computer
[03:38] <YeTr2_> API mismatch
[03:38] <kruncher> well i guess tahnks for your help deltab, bye
[03:39] <Kennyout> [21:35]  fr500_: Kennyout: monitor refresh rate, happens on old pcs for me all the time, try to lessen your vertical refresh rate on xorg config file     <<<and how does one do this with the Install/Live CD?
[03:39] <wachunei> __mikem: who's "he"?
[03:39] <NewtoUbuntu> its not working
[03:39] <__mikem> nalioth
[03:39] <NewtoUbuntu> it still says i need macromedia flash 8
[03:40] <fr500_> Kennyout: press ctrl alt f2 to get to a new console, then sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf not sure at the parameters though, after finishing, type sudo killall gdm; sudo gdm
[03:40] <Flannel> NewtoUbuntu: Flash 8 isn't available for linux.
[03:40] <joe_> anyone know if it really is all that "unsafe" to mount NTFS partition with write enabled?
[03:40] <wachunei> NewtoUbuntu: we have flash player 7
[03:40] <NewtoUbuntu> lol well that explains it then
[03:40] <NewtoUbuntu> thanku guys
[03:40] <wachunei> but!
[03:40] <NewtoUbuntu> sorry to waste ur time
[03:40] <wachunei> NewtoUbuntu: !
[03:40] <fr500_> joe_: yes, but not with ntfs_ng or something
[03:40] <wachunei> NewtoUbuntu: hey!
[03:40] <NewtoUbuntu> yah wachunei?
[03:40] <wachunei> wait!
[03:40] <fr500_> NewtoUbuntu: youtube problem??
[03:40] <Kennyout> okay thats beyond me
[03:41] <NewtoUbuntu> i dont know what u mean by "youtube"
[03:41] <wachunei> NewtoUbuntu: can you watch this http://youtube.com/watch?v=XRAgtmNuM-g ?
[03:41] <fr500_> Kennyout: there is a safe graphics mode at boot i think
[03:41] <fr500_> NewtoUbuntu: nevermind
[03:41] <dr_willis> Youtube.com
[03:41] <NewtoUbuntu> what is it?
[03:41] <wachunei> NewtoUbuntu: YOUTUBE!.. the better online video player
[03:41] <NewtoUbuntu> OOOOOOOOOOOOO
[03:41] <xepher> anyone know if a Geforce FX 5200 will run xgl?
[03:41] <NewtoUbuntu> thanks
[03:41] <YeTr2_> what ubuntu dev decided it was a good idea to include the x configuration for wacom tables in the default config?
[03:41] <NewtoUbuntu> i was attempting to play a free online game
[03:41] <erdrick> i just installed the latest radeon drivers how do i get my computer to use the radeon drivers instead of the mesa drivers for opengl and rendering
[03:41] <marco2391> NewtoUbuntu, which one?
[03:42] <Kennyout> fr500_ thats why i asked about the VGA cable because when i tried that, it seemed to ignore the DVI output and screen went blank
[03:42] <NewtoUbuntu> its a dolphin game
[03:42] <fr500_> Kennyout: hmmm, no clue, DVI works fine for me though
[03:42] <NewtoUbuntu> at http://www.rawkins.com/games/do/index.html
[03:42] <YeTr2_> FirstStrike: still nothing
[03:42] <SurfnKid> whats a good DWG viewer in linux
[03:43] <SurfnKid> !dwg
[03:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dwg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:43] <FirstStrike> YeTr2_: there's really no 'standard fix' for this. it could be something in the bios related to your graphics card. it could be something else. i don't know what else to tell you.
[03:44] <SurfnKid> !xconfig
[03:44] <YeTr2_> ..
[03:44] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:44] <SurfnKid> !help
[03:44] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:45] <marco2391> ubotu, su
[03:45] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:45] <YeTr2_> I know it is possible to get nvidia working, I've done it before, I've just never been able to get a debian based distro to do 3d accel
[03:45] <marco2391> ...
[03:45] <marco2391> is it intentionally rigged to not tell you anything about su
[03:45] <YeTr2_> done it before on this machine*
[03:45] <Flannel> YeTr2_: you follow the howto?
[03:45] <YeTr2_> Flannel: repeatidly with no success
[03:45] <theblue> If there's an op in here, could you PM me, I have a question about the channel rules.
[03:45] <Flannel> marco2391: theres no reason to use su
[03:46] <xepher> theblue, 0 ops
[03:46] <fr500_> Flannel: accesing other user-s files
[03:46] <joe_> ubotu, root
[03:46] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:46] <Flannel> fr500_: you can use sudo
[03:46] <theblue> xepher, Ok, thanks then.
[03:46] <joe_> ubotu,
[03:48] <marco2391> Flannel, you and I both know the negative security implications of sudo.  In case of a password leak, with sudo, your whole system can be destroyed.  Linux is so secure because damage is localized, sudo defeats that.
[03:48] <Whyvas> anyone ever use a cell phone as a modem?
[03:48] <marco2391> Flannel, with 'su' you need the root password to become root.
[03:49] <marco2391> thus minimizing damage in the case that your user password leaks
[03:49] <sethk> marco2391, that is absolutely correct
[03:49] <Flannel> marco2391: If THE root password were leaked, it'd be the same/.
[03:49] <sethk> marco2391, the sudo option makes everyone in the world root.  not sensible in any way.
[03:49] <Flannel> no.  sudo does not make everyone root
[03:49] <marco2391> Flannel, yes, but the user password is most likely to leak.
[03:49] <Flannel> you have to be a sudoer
[03:49] <theblue> Some advice if you want a good 802.11g/b adaptor for Ubuntu, the Belkin "Wireless G USB Network Adapter" works on Dapper very simply.
[03:49] <fr500_> sethk: not every user is root
[03:49] <qid> well, sudo makes anyone authorized to use sudo root
[03:49] <Flannel> marco2391: whys that?
[03:50] <apallo19> hello to all!
[03:50] <sethk> Flannel, certainly, it does.  effectively
[03:50] <fr500_> sethk: you can have a user with permissions and one without
[03:50] <marco2391> Flannel, because most apps run as normal user
[03:50] <Flannel> marco2391: So?
[03:50] <sethk> fr500_, sure, you can.  we are talking about the one with permissions
[03:50] <fr500_> not every user can sudo to root
[03:50] <marco2391> Thus any app that grabs your pass would have access to your system
[03:50] <qid> and you don't have to be root to mess with anything owned by the user, e.g. their data
[03:50] <sethk> fr500_, by default, that's not true, the default lets everyone.
[03:50] <Flannel> marco2391: Any app that grabs a password could grab the root password too.  I don't see what you're talking about
[03:51] <Flannel> sethk: no it doesnt
[03:51] <Snufj> ow
[03:51] <sethk> Flannel, yes it does
[03:51] <fr500_> sethk: it all depends on how you create the users, and by default, it doesnt
[03:51] <Flannel> sethk: when you add users, they arent added to sudoers
[03:51] <Corporal_Dirge> How do I remove mounted volumes from the desktop?
[03:51] <sethk> Flannel, so what?  the question is whether sudo is in some way better than having a root password.  the answer is no.
[03:51] <AskHL> Here's a question for you security-discussing people: why is my wireless-essid parading around for everyone to see in /etc/network/interfaces ? Couldn't it at least have some more restrictive permissions?
[03:52] <fr500_> i don't think one is better to another...
[03:52] <sethk> Flannel, normally, root can't log in remotely.  the sudo user can log in remotely.  so it's less secure.
[03:52] <Flannel> sethk: you've yet to mention any reasons.  Merely babbling about unrelated, and incorrect, information.
[03:52] <marco2391> Flannel, say an app goes "I need your password to do xyz", so the user does that.  Without sudo, that app can only destroy that user account, with sudo, that app can now destroy the whole system, or even worse, root kit it
[03:52] <sethk> Flannel, I have mentioned three reasons.
[03:52] <Flannel> marco2391: No apps ask for the user password
[03:52] <theblue> Corporal_Dirge, Right-click on it, and hit Eject.
[03:52] <AskHL> wireless-essid and key, that is
[03:52] <sethk> Flannel, one, you don't restrict  admin to someone logged in to the machine locally.
[03:52] <marco2391> Flannel, a malicious app would
[03:52] <Corporal_Dirge> theblue, No, I don't want to unmount. just hide it from the desktop
[03:53] <Flannel> marco2391: that app could just as easily ask for the root password
[03:53] <Corporal_Dirge> theblue, Plus, there is no eject.
[03:53] <theblue> Corporal_Dirge, Oh, sorry about that, I don't know that.
[03:53] <Flannel> marco2391, sethk, I'd be happy to continue this discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic, it doesn't belong here
[03:53] <sethk> Flannel, it's reasonable to assume that the root password can be protected better than the user password.
[03:53] <Corporal_Dirge> Anyone know how to hide the mounted volume icons from the desktop?
[03:53] <sethk> Flannel, sure it does.
[03:54] <sethk> Flannel, it's a ubuntu issue.
[03:54] <Flannel> sethk: no, this channel is support related issues only.
[03:54] <bhrobinson> Hi. Can anyone help me with multi mon issues
[03:54] <chops-> i just installed and it came up with Grub loading, please wait..... Error 18
[03:54] <fr500_> Corporal_Dirge: look in gconf-toll, look for nautiuls, there is an option there
[03:54] <sethk> Flannel, it  is also for admin and configuration.
[03:54] <Corporal_Dirge> bhrobinson, I can try. I've been working on the issue myself.
[03:54] <apallo> anyone have expirence configuring evolution-exchange?
[03:54] <Flannel> sethk: I'll be in -offtopic
[03:55] <sethk> Corporal_Dirge, you can change the auto mounting stuff to not create the icon
[03:55] <bhrobinson> I have (4) Dell 1900FPe monitors... I have gotten 2 to work on one video card, but cannot seem to figure out how to load the other 2
[03:55] <sethk> Corporal_Dirge, it would still show up in a file manager, however
[03:55] <chops-> what is an error 18
[03:55] <bhrobinson> both cards are Nvidia 5200
[03:55] <sethk> chops-, I'll look
[03:55] <chops-> thanks
[03:55] <chops-> it came up after the grub loading
[03:56] <Corporal_Dirge> sethk, That's fine. Just that I don't often access my Windows OS partition so I don't need it on the desktop
[03:56] <sethk> bhrobinson, your xorg.conf has different pci specs for the four instances?
[03:56] <Corporal_Dirge> sethk, How do I change it not to show an icon?
[03:56] <sethk> Corporal_Dirge, ok.  let me look up error 18, and then I'll try to remember where that gets changed.
[03:56] <apallo> i can't seem to get evolution to authenticate to exchange server, any suggestions?
[03:57] <Corporal_Dirge> sethk, ok, thanks.
[03:57] <bhrobinson> no, I enabled the nvidia gfx(?) driver and expanded the window across two monitors using twinview
[03:57] <bhrobinson> not sure how to identify the slot of the second card to add it manually
[03:58] <sethk> chops-, it means "selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by bios
[03:58] <bhrobinson> I got tired of Windows crapping out on me, and a friend told me ubuntu was the way to go. I am used to Fedora, so this is a slightly different world
[03:58] <sethk> chops-, is this an old box?  what is the disk drive size?
[03:58] <chops-> 200GB drive
[03:58] <chops-> amd athlon 1600+ in it
[03:59] <sethk> chops-, and linux is installed on  the 200gb drive?  In a partition of what size?
[03:59] <chops-> yes on the 200
[03:59] <chops-> what ever the default was to install it with
[03:59] <fr500_> Corporal-Dirge run gcont-fool (with alt-f2)
[04:00] <fr500_> Corporal_Dirge: i meant for you
[04:00] <sethk> chops-, you can use fdisk -l /dev/hda (hdb, sda, whatever)
[04:00] <sethk> chops-, to show the partitions.  is it ide?  sata?
[04:00] <chops-> i can't get to a prompt
[04:00] <ekun> hey guys if my wireless usb adapter is not on the ndiswrapper list is there anyway i can put the wireless working?
[04:00] <chops-> it has the flashing cursor
[04:00] <sethk> chops-, you can boot a cd in rescue mode, or boot the live cd
[04:00] <fr500_> ekun: what maatters is the chipset
[04:00] <chops-> ok
[04:00] <fr500_> ekun: do you know the chipset?
[04:01] <sethk> chops-, to figure it out, I need to know the layout of linux partitions and also what hard drives, ide and sata, are installed.
[04:01] <bhrobinson> how can I determine where my second video card is on the PCI bus?
[04:01] <Sapaki> my d-link wireless adaptor doesn't work for brezzy badger
[04:01] <ekun> i dont think, how can i find out?
[04:01] <sethk> bhrobinson, lspci
[04:01] <qid> does anyone know how to get WPA-PSK for wireless connections working in ubuntu 6.06?
[04:01] <fr500_> ekun: sadly, goofle
[04:01] <Corporal_Dirge> fr500_, bash: gcont-tool: command not found
[04:01] <fr500_> ekun or #ndsiwrapper
[04:01] <fr500_> gconf-tool sorry
[04:01] <tnzr> qid: what card?
[04:01] <qid> I looked at WifiDocs/WPAHowTo and installed network-manager but it doesn't seem to work
[04:01] <ekun> ok
[04:02] <qid> tnzr: not sure, it's a Centrino system
[04:02] <SurfnKid> anyone know how to view DWG files in Linux
[04:02] <tnzr> qid: dell?
[04:02] <qid> compaq
[04:02] <tnzr> do you have wpa_supplicant installed?
[04:02] <qid> Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG
[04:02] <tnzr> cool
[04:02] <qid> yes, wpa_supplicant is installed
[04:02] <bhrobinson> Sethk, thanks... do I just need to copy the same stuff from the AGP card?
[04:02] <tnzr> can you pastebin your wpa_supplicant.conf?
[04:03] <sethk> bhrobinson, hopefully you'll be able to see the pattern in xorg.conf and duplicate it for monitors three and four
[04:03] <qid> there is no wpa_supplicant.conf
[04:03] <tnzr> qid: check out /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples/
[04:03] <cFriend> For some reason I can't get the live disk to boot on my PC.  i've been working at this all day, and I cant get it to work.  I was going to use the SBM floppy disk, but my computer doesn't have a floppy drive x_x  help!
[04:03] <bhrobinson> sethk, thanks... the PCI reports 0000:05:0d.0
[04:04] <tnzr> qid: you probably want the wpa-psk-tkip.conf file.. copy it to /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and edit it to your liking
[04:04] <Corporal_Dirge> cFriend, have you checked the BIOS?
[04:04] <bhrobinson> what should I put in the xorg.conf
[04:04] <sethk> bhrobinson, ok.  do you see how the other card PCI is specified in xorg.conf?
[04:04] <bhrobinson> yes.
[04:04] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge; I don't know what that is, or how to do that.
[04:04] <bhrobinson> sethk, not sure on the PCI format though
[04:04] <fr500_> Corporal_Dirge: found out?
[04:04] <Corporal_Dirge> cFriend, press Del when you first boot up.
[04:04] <tnzr> qid: once you've done that you can try to fire it up:  sudo wpa_supplicant -B -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -D wext -i eth1 -dd    <-- assuming your card is eth1
[04:05] <ekun> fr500_,  if i found out the chipset pic the one from the lsit that has the same?
[04:05] <sethk> bhrobinson, there should be a line with ###:##:##    just as what you showed a moment ago, of course with different numbers.
[04:05] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, okay, one second
[04:05] <wikijeff> How can I get the Movie Player to play .avi files??
[04:05] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, with the Ubuntu disk in, or out of the drive.
[04:05] <Corporal_Dirge> cFriend, It may be another button, but it'll tell you when you first restart. Make sure the boot order specified CDRom before the HDD.
[04:05] <bhrobinson> sethk, so drop the last .0?
[04:05] <fr500_> ekun ???
[04:05] <Corporal_Dirge> cFriend, Doesn't matter. The BIOS is the motherboard.
[04:05] <sethk> bhrobinson, no, the first
[04:05] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, Someone told me to do that earlier, I did, and it was CD before HDD, still when I boot from disk it runs XP
[04:06] <qid> tnzr: thanks, I'll give that a shot
[04:06] <sethk> bhrobinson, no, wait
[04:06] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, PS:  F2
[04:06] <wikijeff> Anyone??
[04:06] <sethk> bhrobinson, sorry, I misread the . as :
[04:06] <sethk> it is PCI:#:#:#
[04:06] <janga> wikijeff: checkout automatix at ubuntuforums.org
[04:06] <Corporal_Dirge> cFriend, Some require you to press a key to boot from the CD. Watch for it on the next reboot.
[04:06] <sethk> bhrobinson, so the trailing .0 is omitted, yes
[04:07] <apallo> wkijeff: get a package called xine
[04:07] <Corporal_Dirge> sethk, He could post a pastebin
[04:07] <sethk> Corporal_Dirge, yes
[04:07] <ekun> u tould me if i knew the usb wireless adapter chipset, because mine is not on the list, if i found out witch one pick the one equal from the ndsiwrapper list?
[04:07] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, The only options are F2 for Setup, F12 for Boot Options.  When I go into Boot Options, I choose IDE Disk Device.  It still loads XP when I do so.
[04:08] <Corporal_Dirge> Boot options doesn't have CDRom?
[04:08] <janga> wikijeff: automatix installs all video codecs you need
[04:08] <wikijeff> janga, ok thanks
[04:08] <dr_willis> janga,  if you are lucky. :P
[04:08] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, No
[04:09] <dr_willis> !automatix
[04:09] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[04:09] <chops-> sethk it has 3 hda1/2/3 but hda1 os 194GB
[04:09] <sethk> chops-, ok, is /boot in hda1?
[04:09] <apallo> !evolution-exchange
[04:09] <ubotu> evolution-exchange: Exchange plugin for the Evolution groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 252 kB, installed size 3124 kB
[04:09] <bhrobinson> sethk, do I need to rename the identifiers?
[04:09] <chops-> yes boot is in hda1
[04:09] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, 1 = Normal 2 = Primary Master Drive 3 = Hard-Disk Drive C: 4= IDE CD-Rom Device 5 = System Setup 6= IDE Drive Diagnostics 7 = Boot To Utility Partition
[04:09] <sethk> bhrobinson, yes, all the identifiers have to be unique
[04:09] <apallo> do i need to install evolution as well as evolution-exchange?
[04:10] <Corporal_Dirge> cFriend, 4 Doesn't work?
[04:10] <sethk> chops-, you may need to use a smaller boot partition
[04:10] <sethk> chops-, or boot from a cd or floppy
[04:10] <chops-> i got the ubuntu CD
[04:10] <chops-> and booted into the recovery thing
[04:10] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, no, 4 runs, and the light blinks on the front of the disk drive, and it starts XP right away.
[04:10] <sethk> chops-, you can, at the grub prompt, boot from the hard drive instead
[04:10] <ekun> fr500_,  u tould me if i knew the usb wireless adapter chipset, because mine is not on the list, if i found out witch one pick the one equal from the ndsiwrapper list?
[04:10] <Corporal_Dirge> No, don't bo\\do the recovery.
[04:11] <fr500_> ekun: yes
[04:11] <chops-> sthk it doesn't allow any prompt nothing works but a blinking cursor on the grub
[04:11] <Sapaki> I need help with setting up my usb wireless adapter with brezzy
[04:11] <Corporal_Dirge> oops, getting messages mixed up
[04:11] <ekun> ok
[04:11] <ekun> tks
[04:11] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, it's fine.  what should I do though, since I can't get it to boot off of disk, and I can'
[04:11] <Zonoid> Does anyone know of a way to install Ubuntu on an iMac G5? When I try running the Live CD, the fans kick into full gear and it locks up.
[04:12] <Corporal_Dirge> cFriend, Well, make sure the copy is good and bootable. You may have a bad CD
[04:12] <theblue> Zonoid, Have you been using the PowerPC version?
[04:12] <Zonoid> TheBlue: Yes, I have.
[04:12] <Corporal_Dirge> cFriend, if the copy is bad it'll try booting then default to XP
[04:12] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, i downloaded it straight from the ubuntu website.  didn't work.  tried again from the torrent, didn't work.  tried it on my BROTHER'S pc, no such luck
[04:12] <sethk> chops-, I know, but you can boot the cd, and at the cd's boot prompt, enter the commands to boot from the hard drive
[04:12] <Zonoid> Many other people have had this problem as well. I checked on Google.
[04:12] <rayston> where is the sound adapter on ubuntu? what is the path?
[04:12] <theblue> Zonoid, Ok, are there any scratches or dust on the bottom of the CD?
[04:12] <Corporal_Dirge> cFriend, But lots of things can go wrong in the burn process
[04:12] <sethk> chops-, I have one box with a screwy bios and I made a cd to boot that way
[04:13] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, I downloaded it to my mac, burned to a dvd, then used the dvd in the pc.  could that have anything to do with it?
[04:13] <Corporal_Dirge> cFriend, If you can boot it from other PCs then the issue is your computer.
[04:13] <keithhhh> can someone tell me how to install a debian package
[04:13] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, I can't though, it didn't boot on my brother's either.
[04:13] <theblue> keithhhh, From APT or a .DEB file?
[04:13] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, that means the issue is the disk, correct?
[04:13] <keithhhh> .deb file
[04:13] <Zonoid> TheBlue: No, there aren't. Threads in different forums on the internet say that you need to turn sound support off for it to work. No one seems to have found a good fix for it.
[04:13] <qid> tnzr: it worked, although I had to re-enter the gateway for some reason
[04:13] <Corporal_Dirge> cFriend, Try downloading and burning another copy. This time from your PC just to be sure.
[04:13] <Corporal_Dirge> cFriend, most likely
[04:14] <keithhhh> theblue: .deb file
[04:14] <theblue> keithhhh, Ok, in a terminal, type "dpkg -i filename".
[04:14] <keithhhh> thanks I forgot  ;)
[04:14] <tnzr> qid: so you can ping & stuff now?
[04:14] <theblue> keithhhh, No problem.
[04:14] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, Alright.  I thought that may have been the issue, maybe something lost in translation from mac to pc?  my mac has almost 35% faster incoming speed though, which is why I used it :\
[04:14] <TokenBad> what was command to see hard drive space on a drive through terminal?
[04:14] <qid> tnzr: what's involved in switching back and forth between a WPA network and a WEP network? do I just kill the wpa_supplicant daemon manually?
[04:14] <theblue> Zonoid, Hmm, have you tried turning sound support off?
[04:14] <qid> tnzr: yeah, it works
[04:14] <Zonoid> I'm not quite sure how.
[04:15] <rayston> where is the sound adapter on ubuntu? what is the path?
[04:15] <fr500_> TokenBad: df -H
[04:15] <tnzr> qid: if you find that after disconnecting, you cant reconnect, do this (I have to on my ipw2200):  sudo wpa_cli remove keys ; sudo wpa_cli reconfigure
[04:15] <tnzr> qid: the program you were talking about earlier, network manager does that I believe..
[04:15] <taw> hello
[04:15] <Corporal_Dirge> cFriend, Well, the burn is usually where the issues come in.
[04:15] <Zonoid> TheBlue: Do I need to type a code at the "Boot" prompt to do that? Ubuntu is my first Linux distro.
[04:15] <dark_light> i installed a package with --force-depends and now aptitude is trying to remove it whenever i install a package with aptitude.. how can i tell aptitude to just shut up?:(
[04:15] <qid> I'm planning on using the laptop at school where it will be moving back and forth between my own access point (using WPA-PSK) and the school's access points (using WEP, maybe, not even sure)
[04:16] <taw> ati drivers , abi version mismatch
[04:16] <theblue> Zonoid, Probably, I don't know much about the PPC version.
[04:16] <taw> how can i fix it ?
[04:16] <tnzr> qid: I dont use it so im not sure where to tell you to configure the networks that it chooses between, but it may look in wpa_supplicant.conf.. if not maybe it scans and uses the scan results
[04:16] <theblue> Zonoid, You can hit the F1-F12 keys to find out different codes you can type.
[04:16] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, alright.  i'll torrent it again, this time from my PC, and hopefully it'll work  in the morning?
[04:16] <Zonoid> TheBlue: I'll try that. Thanks.
[04:16] <fr500_> tnzr: it's automatic
[04:16] <theblue> Zonoid, No problem.
[04:16] <tnzr> fr500_: awesome
[04:16] <Madpilot> taw, #ubuntu+1
[04:16] <cycom> qid: I think wifi-radar can do some good stuff.
[04:16] <tnzr> qid ---^
[04:16] <Corporal_Dirge> cFriend, if it's slow why don't you DL the direct from Ubuntu?
[04:17] <Zonoid> Is anyone else here familar with the iMac G5 / Ubuntu problem?
[04:17] <rayston> where is the sound adapter on ubuntu? what is the path?
[04:17] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, from their USA link?  Tried it, got to 22% and no progress for over an hour.
[04:17] <tnzr> qid: type iw<tab a couple of times> to see a list of wireless command line tools
[04:17] <shawnr_> cFriend, use bt
[04:17] <cFriend> shawnr_, I am.
[04:18] <Corporal_Dirge> cFriend, do you have a download manager?
[04:18] <tnzr> qid: if you run wpa_cli you can type help at its prompt and do a bunch of stuff in there too
[04:18] <jorgp2> anyone know of a howto for installing ubuntu via chroot and debootstrap from gentoo
[04:18] <cwells> so quick question: I've got an FC5 laptop that uses udev and it's pissing me the hell off.  Is Ubuntu any better in this regard?  Fedora switched from hotplug (which sucked but worked, mostly) to udev and it's a pita, but it appears to be a Fedora problem, not a udev problem so I'm wondering if Ubuntu doesn't suck in this regard.
[04:18] <jorgp2> have not found anything in google
[04:18] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, no, i rarely download much, i use my machines mostly for audio editing and recording.
[04:19] <Corporal_Dirge> cFriend, Torrent shouldn't take a day unless you're on dialup
[04:19] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, I just tried the torrent again, searched it on torrentspy and the strongest torrent gives an error, won't let me download it.
[04:19] <qid> is wifi-radar in the package system?
[04:20] <jbroome> yes
[04:20] <fr500_> qid: if networks are encrypted network manager is better i think
[04:20] <shenki> hello. what drivers should the ATI M300 graphics chips use?
[04:20] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, "could not connect to the tracker while not connected to any peers.  Aborting the torrent"
[04:21] <Corporal_Dirge> cFriend, Where are you getting your torrent?
[04:21] <qid> well, I installed network-manager-gnome but it doesn't seem to have done anything
[04:21] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, torrentspy.com
[04:21] <qid> installed it a little while ago, not just right now
[04:21] <fr500_> qid, run sudo NetworkManager, and then nm-applet
[04:22] <dibblego> crontab -l gives me "1 * * * * touch /home/svnbackup/f" -- shouldn't I seen this file created after a few minutes? I can't find what I'm doing wrong
[04:22] <qid> ah, the applet must not have gotten put in
[04:22] <qid> it can't seem to find any network devices
[04:23] <fr500_> qid what wifi card?
[04:23] <Corporal_Dirge> cFriend, This torrent?: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[04:23] <qid> Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG
[04:23] <fr500_> qid did you get it working with ndiswrapper so far?
[04:24] <qid> it's already working
[04:24] <fr500_> with ndiswrapper, or does it have native drivers?
[04:24] <qid> how do I tell?
[04:24] <fr500_> qid: did you ever use the windows drivers?
[04:24] <fr500_> in linux, for some purpose
[04:25] <qid> it just worked on install
[04:25] <fr500_> qid: maybe that chipset is not supported by network manager, anyway try sudo killall NetworkManager; sudo NetworkManager
[04:25] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, no, I had a different one I believe
[04:26] <Corporal_Dirge> cFriend, Could be an issue too. That's the official site.
[04:26] <qid> fr500_: no luck
[04:26] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, I'll try using this one.
[04:26] <qid> still doesn't recognize any network connections
[04:27] <fr500_> qid no clue buddy
[04:27] <qid> should I uninstall it and try wifi-radar?
[04:27] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, this one runs.  The other one had hundreds of seeders though, so apparently everyone else wasn't having the same issues I was?
[04:27] <iceman> so has dapper release ? anyone
[04:27] <jbroome> huh?
[04:28] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, I have to go.
[04:28] <MrParanoia> but, my wpa_supplicant.conf isn't working even though it's the same one i used in mandriva
[04:28] <shawnrgr_> cFriend, i just loaded up the torrent for ubuntu x86 and was getting a steady 800+ dl rate... no problem
[04:28] <Corporal_Dirge> cFriend, Or this torrent has more tracker info.
[04:28] <cFriend> Corporal_Dirge, I'm going to leave it running though, thank you for the help, hopefully this will work now.
[04:28] <Corporal_Dirge> cFriend, See ya
[04:28] <ekun> fr500_,  im following this steps ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper ) but got stuck on 2.4 because when i do lspci i dont see that numbers they talk about
[04:28] <fr500_> ekun: lsusb i think
[04:28] <iceman> Anyone using a compaq P4 2.5 or above system ?
[04:29] <qid> hmm, wifi-radar isn't in the package system...
[04:29] <seba_newbie> Hi all.
[04:30] <seba_newbie> I want to make a copy of a dvd of Edubuntu 6.06
[04:30] <seba_newbie> i do
[04:30] <MikeyMike> anyone know if last fm has an irc channel?
[04:30] <seba_newbie> dd if=/dev/hdc of=imagen.iso
[04:30] <seba_newbie> all seems ok, but i get different md5sum
[04:31] <iceman> Dang it, need a "Winblows" hack... to enable and create a new XP restore cd on a compaq before I install Ubuntu
[04:31] <seba_newbie> is that Ok ? is that normal ?
[04:31] <qid> oh I see, I have to enable the universe repo
[04:32] <apallo27> i need advice on evolution exchange
[04:33] <iceman> why cant there be a game like battlefield 2 for Linux
[04:33] <avis> you sunk my battleship.
[04:33] <Phirax> iceman: you will need to use wine or transgaming
[04:34] <iceman> Phirax Preformance would be a issue wouldn't it ?
[04:34] <preterition> iceman: what full of bug and cheaters?
[04:34] <FirstStrike> hum
[04:34] <seba_newbie> Hi all, I need help about how to make a copy of a data DVD
[04:34] <FirstStrike> my shortcuts for xmms no longer work. i set up XF86AudioPlay and mapped it to xmms --play-pause for example..
[04:34] <iceman> AAo is ok,.
[04:34] <brobinson> sethk, I tried what we were talking about, but I cannot get the second card to come up
[04:35] <FirstStrike> and now when i hit any of the buttons i mapped (play/pause, stop, forward, back) none work
[04:35] <Phirax> iceman: who knows, some run pretty much almost as fast, some don't run too well
[04:35] <FirstStrike> but mute and the volume dial work fine
[04:35] <Phirax> iceman: some don't run at all
[04:35] <preterition> iceman: let me get you a link to transgamings cedega they rate playability and i know bf2 is on it
[04:35] <seba_newbie> I get Starcraft working perfect with wine, je je
[04:35] <Phirax> iceman: www.transgaming.com
[04:36] <iceman> Phirax would like a pure linuk game with the "worlds" and graphic's of BF2
[04:36] <iceman> Phirax I have managed to run Diablo II in wine
[04:36] <ekun> fr500_,  did all that installed the driver with the graphic interface and it was supposed to appear an icon from the wireless but nothing
[04:36] <Phirax> iceman: only a few games run natively in linux
[04:37] <Phirax> iceman: yeah well you could always try to use wine to get bf2 going
[04:37] <fr500_> ekun: graphic interface???
[04:37] <preterition> Phirax: UT2k4 is native
[04:37] <fr500_> ekun: i never had one...
[04:37] <Phirax> preterition: as is quake3/4 doom3 etc
[04:37] <iceman> Phirax Wolf 3d is fair on linux ... and large user base as well, Plus native linux install
[04:37] <seba_newbie> Anyone have successful run heavy metal fakk 2 in wine ?
[04:38] <Phirax> i actually do the lazy thing, and keep a dual boot of XP purely for games, i cn't be bothered going through all the hardship
[04:39] <hermes01> Is there a program similar to Klaunch for Gnome?
[04:39] <iceman> Wish OSX would better support Nvidia cards... instralled OSX86 on a DELL PC... Lacked high end graphic's support.
[04:39] <BlueEagle> How is steam/cs:s in non-cedega wine these days?
[04:39] <fr500_> hermes01: alt-f2?
[04:40] <BlueEagle> phirax: It might be in gnome-panel. Something like gnome-panel run or something.
[04:40] <preterition> iceman: ok here we are http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=3618
[04:40] <Phirax> iceman: hehe atlerast you got it installed, i can get it running but no keyboard/mouse, since there is a bug in the USB drivers and my specific mobo
[04:41] <iceman> Phirax OSX86 seems a fair project, thanks to apple backing off the project and letting it proceed
[04:42] <SurfnKid> hey guys
[04:42] <abel> hello
[04:42] <SurfnKid> anyone know a good DWG viewer for linux
[04:42] <Phirax> iceman: well really the only reason they back it is because they at the time where planning to switch to Intel CPUs
[04:42] <{}justlearningl> I have a question and I'm going to sound dumb for asking.  how do I get gcc
[04:43] <burnhamd> go to synaptic and search for gcc
[04:43] <dibblego> sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[04:43] <burnhamd> then download the version you want
[04:43] <iceman> Phirax, no Apple originaly forced the project to close, then it grew outside, and became to big, so apple just left it and has allowed it to progress.
[04:43] <burnhamd> you probably want gcc4.0
[04:44] <{}justlearningl> all I know is next week all my program will be in gcc
[04:44] <{}justlearningl> for college
[04:44] <Phirax> iceman: i'm pretty sure they would have really tried to shut it down, if it wasn't going to benefit them
[04:44] <Corporal_Dirge> How do you force an application to quit with Ubuntu? The App crashed.
[04:44] <varsendaggr> hey how do i rip to mp3?
[04:45] <DanC> I'm shopping for a gnupg key manager. a graphical tool. does ubuntu support one?
[04:45] <burnhamd> hit the x usually that will ask if you want to force quit if it doesnt respond
[04:45] <iceman> Phirax i'd like to get OPENSTEP installed and networked for the fun of it
[04:45] <Phirax> varsendaggr: rip to ogg vorbis instead :P
[04:45] <bimberi> DanC: seahorse
[04:45] <Greedyb> hey guys I'm reading the guide from ubuntuguide on installing my nvidia drivers but I followed the instructions and restarted X and it didnt work
[04:45] <ardchoille> DanC: Seahorse
[04:45] <burnhamd> vasendaggr search ubuntu forums
[04:45] <ardchoille> !info seahorse
[04:45] <ubotu> seahorse: A Gnome front end for GnuPG. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 797 kB, installed size 2820 kB
[04:46] <burnhamd> Greeddyb: what are your symptoms
[04:46] <iceman> Phirax tried about ever os there is, but UBUNTU still kind of beats all,  for Usability and support
[04:46] <DanC> hmm... seahorse... in universe, so not quite so supported. but 3 recommendations is good
[04:46] <Phirax> iceman: is openstep part based off the aqua used in in mac
[04:46] <burnhamd> iceman: you tried osx
[04:46] <iceman> They ever fix the KDE / Gnome
[04:46] <Greedyb> burnhamd, I at first got a MD5 checksum error and put in the cmd they wanted me to and then restarted GDM and got a bunch of errors
[04:46] <Corporal_Dirge> is there anything like the task manager for Linux?
[04:46] <ardchoille> DanC: I have been using Seahorse in several distros for a while, it's a nice app IMHO
[04:47] <burnhamd> Greedyb: what are the errors
[04:47] <Greedyb> burnhamd, Ive got nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common installed along with enabling nvidia-glx-config
[04:47] <DanC> hmm... how does seahorse relate to gnupg-agent?
[04:47] <iceman> burnhamd OSX86 on a Dell yes, worked great, just needed a ATI video card and it would have rocked
[04:47] <Phirax> iceman: well i've always used redhat/fedora, switched to unbuntu for the first time a few days ago, once i got all the problems i initially had fixed, well all but one, i've been pretty impressed with it
[04:47] <varsendaggr> Phirax, i will do that when ogg players are $30
[04:47] <Greedyb> burnhamd, lemme find the logs
[04:47] <burnhamd> dont paste the logs here
[04:47] <Corporal_Dirge> How do I force quit an application?
[04:47] <ardchoille> DanC: Seahorse uses gnupg-agent to cache passphrases
[04:47] <burnhamd> use pastebin or whatever you want
[04:47] <DanC> I use ssh-agent and I like it; I'm hoping for something similar for (a) gnupg keys and (b) kerberos credentials. I'd like something that keeps my credential state visible.
[04:47] <preterition> Corporal_Dirge,  at a terminal you can type top to see a brief of running programs
[04:47] <iceman> Phirax Been using UBUBTU for 3 releases now...
[04:47] <Phirax> varsendaggr: oh ahh you plan to wack the tunes on USB players?
[04:47] <BlueEagle> corporal_dirge: ALT+F2 -> xkill -> Click on the app
[04:47] <Greedyb> burnhamd, I know :) I dont see a log file in the X11 dir thoough
[04:48] <ardchoille> DanC: But, I just kept it turned off, don't want any caching
[04:48] <preterition> Corporal_Dirge, or or ps -AF for a full list in terminal
[04:48] <varsendaggr> Corporal_Dirge, yopu can open up a term and do sudo killall    program
[04:48] <burnhamd> did you backup the config file
[04:48] <shawnrgr_> Corporal_Dirge, you can also add the force-quite launcher to the panel
[04:48] <bruenig> Corporal_Dirge, you can add a force quit icon to the panel by right clicking on it and selecting add to panel. That comes in handy occasionally with firefox
[04:48] <rayston> where is the sound adapter on ubuntu? what is the path?
[04:48] <BlueEagle> greedyb: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:48] <iceman> anyone has the GNOME / KDE desktop bugs been fixed, Used to lose apps and programs if you installed both ?
[04:48] <Corporal_Dirge> ok, thanks xkill worked.
[04:48] <BlueEagle> greedyb: grepping it for (EE) is usually sufficient.
[04:48] <Greedyb> burnhamd, I deleted the xorg that wasnt working
[04:49] <Greedyb> BlueEagle, thanx
[04:49] <DanC> recommendations on installing flock on dapper?
[04:49] <BlueEagle> !info flock
[04:49] <ubotu> Package flock does not exist in dapper
[04:49] <BlueEagle> danc: don't :p
[04:49] <theblue> !info cwcp
[04:49] <ubotu> cwcp: Ncurses frontend to unixcw. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2-14 (dapper), package size 43 kB, installed size 140 kB
[04:49] <bruenig> DanC, I helped somebody do that the other day. It is pretty straight forward. Download the beta. Extract it. Then cd into the directory and do ./flock
[04:49] <burnhamd> greedyb: then you dont have a xorg config at all?
[04:49] <DanC> hmm... why not, BlueEagle ? flock seems like a fairly good blog authoring tool.
[04:49] <Greedyb> burnhamd, I have the backed up config in place right now
[04:50] <DanC> tx, bruenig
[04:50] <burnhamd> thats strange
[04:50] <varsendaggr> !mp3
[04:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:50] <BlueEagle> danc: If it's not in the repositories you better know what you're doing.
[04:50] <ToHellWithGA> moving my mouse occasionally causes my audio to cut out.  it's a plain, cheap microsoft corded optical mouse and an ice1712 chipset audio card
[04:50] <ekun> i installed my usb wireless adapter driver  with Ndiswrapper but nothing happen, can someone give any solution
[04:50] <iceman> OSX86 as a GUI and i could live with it...
[04:50] <burnhamd> can anyone help out greedyb
[04:51] <burnhamd> i need to go to bed
[04:51] <bruenig> DanC, note that doesn't install it. It just runs the program. Everything necessary for the program to install is in that directory. So you will have to do that everytime you want to run it or you will have to write a script to do that for you (which is what I would do personally)
[04:51] <qid> anyone know how to install a theme for gnome? one comment said to put the folder in ~/.themes/ but that doesn't seem to have worked
[04:51] <shawnrgr_> qid, drag the tar into the theme list
[04:51] <shawnrgr_> qid, it will install itself
[04:51] <Greedyb> gnight burnhamd
[04:51] <iceman> burnhamd OSX installed flawlessly on a DELL 2400, just lacks Nvidia Drived support fully
[04:51] <DanC> ok, bruenig , basically, you're saying: get flock from the flock guys; there isn't a handy .deb package
[04:52] <bruenig> qid, just drag and drop link to theme on the site you are getting it to to the system>preferences>theme
[04:52] <witless> why would a .ogg file created on an ubuntu system fail to play on a debian-stable system (using ogg123)?
[04:52] <bruenig> dailog
[04:52] <BlueEagle> danc: It's beta software, but you're probably aware of that. If you really want it then you'll probably need !build-essential
[04:52] <burnhamd> iceman: thats nice
[04:52] <Greedyb> http://pastebin.ca/141733
[04:52] <bruenig> BlueEagle, you don't need build essential
[04:52] <iceman> anyone run KDE and Gnome on same install, are the Bugs gone
[04:52] <burnhamd> witless: it souldnt
[04:52] <ToHellWithGA> qid: if it doesn't work drag and drop like shawn said, you could always ask the author.  since themes are provided without documentation usually the artists/authors don't mind helping
[04:52] <qid> it just says the file format is invalid
[04:52] <AlexThunde1> hwllo~?!
[04:52] <BlueEagle> bruenig: Is flock distributing a compiled binary?
[04:52] <witless> yet it does
[04:52] <qid> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/32162210/ <-- this is the theme
[04:52] <shawnrgr_> qid, are you extracting the file before you drag stuff in there?
[04:53] <witless> Error opening 08-tom_waits-please_wake_me_up.ogg using the oggvorbis module.  The file may be corrupted.
[04:53] <qid> I tried both methods
[04:53] <burnhamd> greedyb: to get some help your best bet it to post all error output on the forum
[04:53] <BlueEagle> danc: Well since it appears to be a compiled binary you just d/l it, unpack it and read INSTALL
[04:53] <witless> md5sum is the same on the debian-stable and ubuntu systems
[04:53] <iceman> I want a COMPLETE osx theme for Linux
[04:53] <BlueEagle> danc: Shouldn't be more to it.
[04:53] <DanC> tx, BlueEagle .
[04:53] <Greedyb> alrighty burnhamd thanks
[04:53] <PyroManiak> anyone in here use i8k?
[04:53] <cynical> iceman: there are some
[04:53] <rayston> anyone have any idea why I cant view this CD? I have confirmed that the CD and CD player work fine, (I can view the same CD thru the same CD player on a VMware'd win2k on this same box)
[04:53] <tanath> i've installed my vidcard's drivers for direct rendering, but now when i watch videos fullscreen it gets a little choppy... (?!)
[04:53] <iceman> cynical pieces parts is all...
[04:53] <bruenig> BlueEagle, yes if that is what it is called. I am still a bit behind on terms and such. But essentially just run the binary and it launches it
[04:54] <AlexThunde1> I am having a problem.
[04:54] <bruenig> looks like a perfect candidate for using the ever sparse /opt directory
[04:54] <Greedyb> brb
[04:54] <BlueEagle> danc: However it is beta software and as such you must expect it to be bugged. But since it's a precompiled binary it should not (in theory) interfere with the rest of your system.
[04:54] <qid> the theme zip contains a folder that looks like the gnome theme and another folder that looks like a winamp theme
[04:54] <burnhamd> AlexThinde1: what are they
[04:54] <iceman> Has the KDE / GNOME Duel install menu Bugs been fixed ?
[04:54] <TokenBad> anyone know what this means?:  checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[04:54] <shawnrgr_> qid, DON'T unzip the theme you download.
[04:54] <burnhamd> AlexThunde1: what are they
[04:54] <rayston> where is the sound adapter on ubuntu? what is the path?
[04:55] <cynical> iceman: this looks better imho (I always hated the grainy look) http://www.taimila.com/ubuntuosx.php
[04:55] <shawnrgr_> qid, just drag the archive you downloaded into the list
[04:55] <AlexThunde1> burnhamd: I'm trying to access a YTMND, and I keep getting an "Install missing plugins", however, it says that the plugin is unknow, and I can't install it.
[04:55] <qid> shawnrgr_: 22:52 < qid> it just says the file format is invalid
[04:55] <tanath> fglrxinfo says: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[04:55] <shawnrgr_> qid, what site
[04:55] <tanath> could this be the cause?
[04:55] <qid> shawnrgr_: 22:52 < qid> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/32162210/ <-- this is the theme
[04:56] <iceman> cynical ty
[04:56] <rayston> where is the sound adapter on ubuntu? what is the path?
[04:56] <cynical> iceman: np :D
[04:56] <keithhhh> hmm is there any easy way to install vmware?  I tried sudo apt-get install vmware-player but I got "/usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[04:57] <burnhamd> AlexThunde1: im assuming your running Firefox
[04:57] <hermes01> Parallels is a good and easy to install substitute for vmware
[04:57] <burnhamd> AlexThunde1: what version of ubuntu
[04:57] <burnhamd> is it 64bit
[04:57] <bruenig> AlexThunde1, do you know what plugin is needed for what you are trying to view?
[04:57] <shawnrgr_> qid, unzip the file, and re-archive it with .tar.gz
[04:57] <rayston> keithhh : theres a howto on the web boards, it works great
[04:57] <AlexThunde1> I have dapper 6.0.8 I believe. Let me check
[04:58] <bruenig> AlexThunde1, you can install plugins through the firefox plugin dialog, that is a windows only thing
[04:58] <burnhamd> keithhh: yes actually its under the add remove programs in the applications menu
[04:58] <bruenig> cant&
[04:58] <carlos> hello everyone, i have a little problem, here it is: i have installed ubuntu 606 on my acer travelmate 4670 laptop, i installed xgl too and the problem is that every time i log on to ubuntu the keyboard configuration change, the laptop have an 88-89 keyboard do you know how i have to configure it in ubuntu and how to do to avoid this problem?
[04:58] <bruenig> cant*
[04:58] <rayston> where is the sound adapter on ubuntu? what is the path?
[04:58] <shawnrgr_> qid, thats a .zip extension... don't think that will work... just rezip it
[04:58] <keithhhh> burnhamd: ok Ill try again   ;)
[04:58] <bruenig> !repeat
[04:58] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:58] <AlexThunde1> I tried isntalling the plugin through the plugin dialog. BUt since it's an unkown plugin, it doesn't let me.
[04:58] <burnhamd> keithhh: go into advanced mode and enable commercial apps
[04:59] <ToHellWithGA> my sound is cutting out only when i move the mouse around rapidly on empty space on the desktop.  is that a known bug?  it happens in both metacity and xgl :/
[04:59] <bruenig> AlexThunde1, yes I meant to say it wont let you do that in linux, what is the plugin you need to view the page. Flash, java, wmp or what. If you don't know send me a link
[04:59] <{}justlearningl> I asked how to get gcc and was told to go to Synaptic.   where is this on the computer
[04:59] <keithhhh> burnhamd: do you mean synaptic package manager??
[04:59] <burnhamd> i think it is flash
[04:59] <{}justlearningl> i have no idea
[04:59] <burnhamd> no keithhh
[04:59] <naer_dinsul> {}justlearningl: You can find Synaptic in the System menu under "Administration"
[05:00] <bruenig> ToHellWithGA, it doesn't happen with me
[05:00] <{}justlearningl> thank u
[05:00] <keithhhh> burnhamd: oh where then?
[05:00] <shawnrgr_> qid, no i just tried it... didn't work. but there is another zip in there, you might have to re archive that as well
[05:00] <WhatTheDeuce> Hey.  I'm trying to backup some of my system on to a acomdata external hard drive, but when I try to put a file of it, it says that I do not have permissions to write to it.  When I try to change the permissions, it says it is a read only disk.  I have used this drive to back things up before, so I know it is not read only.  What could cause this?
[05:00] <shawnrgr_> qid, if not... i would just goto gnome-look.org to get your themes... or install compiz ;p
[05:00] <burnhamd> keithhh: if you are using gnome click on the applications menu in the left hand corner
[05:00] <local> mdadm -C /dev/md0 --level=raid1 -n 2 /dev/hdb2 /dev/hdc2  => gives   mdadm: Cannot open /dev/hdc2: Device or resource busy  how do i find what keeps this dev busy?
[05:00] <bruenig> WhatTheDeuce, you need to chown it to your username
[05:01] <TokenBad> is there a way in dapper to upgrade to glib2.6.0
[05:01] <keithhhh> burnhamd: hahaha silly me
[05:01] <burnhamd> keithhh: then there should be add/remove programs
[05:01] <charliehand> 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition (viao laptop) sound works OK, but no headphone output. Headphone output works under Windoz.
[05:01] <TokenBad> well gilib-2.6.0
[05:01] <keithhhh> burnhamd: so is this a gnome app or ubuntu?
[05:02] <bruenig> alexthunde1, are you still there. Post the url to the page that is telling you that you have missing plugins
[05:02] <burnhamd> gnome is ubuntu's desktop
[05:02] <AlexThunde1> bruenig: the link is http://yssmwtp.ytmnd.com/
[05:02] <burnhamd> it is an app that rins under ubuntu
[05:02] <bruenig> AlexThunde1, lol
[05:02] <qid> shawnrgr_: actually, it worked for me, it showed up under the Theme Details button
[05:02] <qid> thanks
[05:03] <shawnrgr_> qid, good
[05:03] <shawnrgr_> qid, np
[05:03] <WhatTheDeuce> bruenig: How do I do that?
[05:03] <BlueEagle> whatthedeuce: which flags is the external drive mounted with?
[05:03] <lorddark> alguien habla espaol
[05:03] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell lorddark about es
[05:03] <witless> ogg's i'm creating with sound juicer on ubuntu are failing to play on a debian-stable system
[05:03] <kingrayray> hey guys.. when i'm starting X, i get a fatal error claiming it can't find the default font "fixed"
[05:03] <shawnrgr_> qid, but i highly suggest using gnome-look.org instead. you know they will work... although there are some awsome stuff on deviant-art
[05:03] <kingrayray> any ideas?
[05:03] <carlos> yo
[05:04] <WhatTheDeuce> BlueEagle: It gets automatically mounted in gnome
[05:04] <lorddark> de donde eres carlos
[05:04] <carlos> argentina
[05:04] <carlos> i have a little problem, here it is: i have installed ubuntu 606 on my acer travelmate 4670 laptop, i installed xgl too and the problem is that every time i log on to ubuntu the keyboard configuration change, the laptop have an 88-89 keyboard do you know how i have to configure it in ubuntu and how to do to avoid this problem?
[05:04] <BlueEagle> lorddark: Read the message you got from ubotu por favor.
[05:04] <burnhamd> AlexThundie1: It is just an mp3 file
[05:04] <crimsun> charliehand: fixed in an upcoming kernel release for dapper.
[05:04] <bruenig> AlexThunde1, do ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins, and then paste the output in here
[05:05] <lorddark> humm hablas bien el ingles??
[05:05] <Zonoid> Could anyone help me boot an Ubuntu Live CD on an iMac G5?
[05:05] <ToHellWithGA> bruenig: what chipset audio card and video card are you using?
[05:05] <BlueEagle> !pastebin
[05:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:05] <burnhamd> bruenig: i think that he is having problems with the embeded mp3 file
[05:05] <shawnrgr_> qid, wow deviantart changed there site layout and stuff... very nice.. much better
[05:06] <bruenig> burnhamd, i thought it was an embedded mp3 but I wasn't certain. I thought there was an off chance that it was flash sound. I didn't really want to look through the source as I am lazy
[05:06] <burnhamd> the mplayer plugin should make it work
[05:06] <AlexThunde1> flashplayer.xpt  libflashplayer.so  libjavaplugin.so  libunixprintplugin.so
[05:06] <burnhamd> or torem i guess
[05:06] <burnhamd> totem*
[05:06] <Aleric> anyone awake?
[05:06] <Ranbee> hi, will the dapper livecd regenrate an xorg.conf that will definately work with Arch? if so what's the command? thanks
[05:06] <WhatTheDeuce> bruenig: Sorry.  I was being dense.  I already am the owner of the file.
[05:06] <bruenig> AlexThunde1, do sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[05:06] <burnhamd> aleric it is 4 in the afternoon here
[05:06] <nibblesmx> is this the right place to ask for help on edhy?
[05:07] <nibblesmx> *edgy?
[05:07] <bruenig> I think ubuntu+1
[05:07] <bruenig> !edgy
[05:07] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:07] <nibblesmx> thanks
[05:07] <bruenig> !schedule
[05:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:07] <CyberSlug> Is there anyway of setting a specific theme for a particular program to use from the command line... eg export GTK THEME=??? <command>
[05:07] <CyberSlug> ?
[05:07] <Aleric> I am a noob with ubuntu. I only have an ssh connection to the system I want to install a piece of software. Is there a command to get a file from a website via terminal?
[05:07] <burnhamd> gniight all
[05:07] <CyberSlug> Night!
[05:07] <rayston> where is the sound adapter on ubuntu? what is the path?
[05:08] <burnhamd> aleric i would use apt-get to install anything on ubuntu
[05:08] <ToHellWithGA> rayston: it depends very much on your card
[05:08] <bruenig> rayston, try the forums. You have asked that probably 20 times
[05:08] <chops-> what is error 17 ?
[05:08] <burnhamd> aleric if you just want to download a file then use wget {link}
[05:08] <bruenig> no one except now tohellwithga has answered
[05:08] <ToHellWithGA> rayston: you could deem ALSA or OSS to be the "driver" but your card is loaded into the kernel as a module
[05:08] <Aleric> the problem is I only have an ssh connection to install knowledgetree. As I said I have been using it for about 6 weeks maybe. Thanks Burnhamd
[05:09] <Aleric> wget thanks
[05:09] <ToHellWithGA> bruenig: i'm not that observant
[05:09] <Zonoid> Is there any way to boot Ubuntu on an iMac G5 without the fans going into high gear, and the mouse and keyboard freezing?
[05:09] <burnhamd> aleric to install it like synaptic you can use apt-get -install insertapphere
[05:09] <bruenig> AlexThunde1, did that work?
[05:10] <AlexThunde1> sorry
[05:10] <AlexThunde1> trying it now
[05:10] <ToHellWithGA> bruenig: what sound card and video card do you use?  i've pinned it down to being a problem specifically with the analog inputs on the sound card which are routed directly to ADC then output on the card
[05:11] <AlexThunde1> it still doesn't work
[05:11] <AlexThunde1> the sudo worked, but it still has the missing plugin
[05:12] <chops-> i just installed ubuntu and it came up with Grub loading, please wait..... Error 17 (before it was error 18 but i resized the main partiotion to 20GB)
[05:12] <lorddark> hola argentino
[05:12] <WhatTheDeuce> Sorry, I had to log out for a second.  Did I miss any comments about my external hard drive problem?
[05:13] <xepher> WhatTheDeuce, no
[05:13] <Zonoid> Does anyone know if this bug will ever be fixed? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/23445
[05:13] <kingrayray> guys i have no X server.. i really need some help on getting it back to defaults..
[05:13] <kingrayray> well, i have it its just not working
[05:13] <bruenig> ToHellWithGA, honestly I am not sure. I do know the sound card because I had to get one when windows refused to recognize the motherboard sound. I believe it is this http://www.soundblaster.com/products/product.asp?category=1&subcategory=205&product=14257
[05:13] <kingrayray> this is rather urgent, links2 can't goto the wiki
[05:13] <bruenig> not too keen on the hardware
[05:14] <kingrayray> is it possible to recover the default X configuration from when i installed ubuntu?
[05:14] <witless> ok, i encoded an ogg file with sound juicer, and ogginfo says it's speex format
[05:14] <azlan> hye
[05:14] <kingrayray> =(
[05:15] <kingrayray> i tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it didn't work..
[05:15] <Aleric> burnhamd you just saved my job. THANKS
[05:15] <bruenig> kingrayray, if you had backed up your xorg.conf. You could.
[05:16] <kingrayray> lol, i know i screwed up.. i replaced it with a backup of the xorg.conf i use for nvidia, but for some reason it's not working now
[05:16] <burnhamd> Aleric: no problem
[05:16] <AlexThunde1> bruenig, the sudo didn't work
[05:16] <chops-> what should the partitions be ?
[05:16] <bruenig> AlexThunde1, the sudo didn't work? what do you mean?
[05:17] <bruenig> you mean installing mozilla-mplayer didn't work?
[05:17] <AlexThunde1> I mean, the sudo worked
[05:17] <AlexThunde1> but I still get the missing plugin version
[05:17] <Zonoid> Is it possible to get Ubuntu working on an iMac G5?
[05:17] <bruenig> AlexThunde1, ok to get straight, you did sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer and it was sucessful but it still says plugin missing?
[05:17] <AlexThunde1> yes
[05:18] <lorddark> algun colombiano??
[05:18] <bruenig> ok, you probably haven't installed the apropriate mp3 stuff
[05:18] <bruenig> !mp3
[05:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:19] <kingrayray> okay this might be asking a lot, but could someone potentially PM me the relevant steps for setting up nvidia drivers? i'd goto the wiki but it won't connect in links or links2.
[05:19] <kingrayray> i'm thinking i missed a step, and i can't really look ;/
[05:19] <lorddark> algun colombiano???
[05:19] <Zonoid> I need help disabling sound so I can get Ubuntu running on an iMac G5.
[05:19] <CyberSlug> kingrayray, Why not just use the ones in the ubuntu repository?
[05:19] <pushpop11> anyone know if there is video instructional videos for ubuntu out there?
[05:20] <kingrayray> CyberSlug: i did, nvidia-glx and the restricted modules package right?
[05:20] <cynical> do you really need instructional videos?
[05:20] <bruenig> pushpop11, what do you need from the instructional videos?
[05:20] <bruenig> as in do you have any specific problems or questions
[05:20] <cynical> pushpop11: I've seen one for installing ubuntu but thats about it
[05:20] <CyberSlug> kingrayray, generally also the kernel-source package too.
[05:20] <CyberSlug> kingrayray, Not needed though
[05:20] <kingrayray> yeah i have it
[05:20] <CyberSlug> kingrayray, So what is the problem, atm?
[05:20] <pushpop11> Teach users how to operate the desktop basically learn the os inside out
[05:21] <kingrayray> CyberSlug: X won't start, seems to be complaining about a lack of a "fixed" font
[05:21] <cynical> pushpop11: uhh nope doesnt exist
[05:21] <pushpop11> I know there is one in german, I need it in english
[05:21] <cynical> pushpop11: unless maybe you pay for it
[05:21] <coreyt> Anyone running Ubuntu on a Asus M2NPV or nForce 430 chipset?
[05:21] <pushpop11> that would be fine
[05:21] <kingrayray> CyberSlug: i could fix it myself if I could get into X at all, lol
[05:22] <CyberSlug> kingrayray, Ah... I have had that error before... How did I fix it.... Hmmmm
[05:22] <johnt> hello all Anyone help me with wifi please?
[05:22] <kingrayray> it seems like a rather stupid issue.. lol
[05:22] <CyberSlug> kingrayray, Which kernel?
[05:22] <kingrayray> 2.6.15-26-386
[05:22] <kingrayray> (yay for /exec)
[05:22] <xepher> johnt, what seems to be the problem
[05:22] <bruenig> pushpop11, videos and books help some but not really that much. Just immerse yourself in it and if you have questions or problems come on here and figure out how to quell them. Using the OS is pretty self explanatory if you have every used any other OS. You click on a program in the menu. That program launches.
[05:22] <CyberSlug> kingrayray, Hmm... that should be more than fine.
[05:23] <Aleric> If anyone in here helps on the ubuntu wiki and forms I have to give a big KUDOS those are nice documents. Done a world of good for this noob.
[05:23] <CyberSlug> kingrayray, How are you on IRC atm, epic?
[05:23] <kingrayray> CyberSlug: irssi
[05:23] <kingrayray> tty
[05:23] <kingrayray> =)
[05:23] <Zonoid> Is it true that Ubuntu wouldn't work on an iMac G5?
[05:23] <pushpop11> bruenig, ya I know what you mean, it's very user friendly.
[05:23] <johnt> Xepher I did a ndiswrapper installand now the wireless light is permanent on instead of flashing
[05:24] <surgy> hello
[05:24] <surgy> so i got it installed
[05:24] <Aralor> does anyone know if Circumventor can be installed on Ubuntu?
[05:24] <surgy> was fun
[05:24] <surgy> now i need help again
[05:24] <CyberSlug> kingrayray, Ok.... You are familiar with virtual terminals... <ctrl><alt><F*>?
[05:24] <kingrayray> yeah of course
[05:24] <xepher> johnt did you install the correct drivers
[05:24] <pushpop11> is the server version of ubuntu user friendly like the workstation version?
[05:25] <CyberSlug> kingrayray, I cannot assume these things :P. I am stabbing in the dark, so I am sorry if I waste a little of your time.
[05:25] <surgy> i have a hdd that is ntfs that has a few pics on it i want onto my linux partition
[05:25] <theblue> pushpop11, It doesn't have a graphical interface, last I checked.
[05:25] <surgy> is it possible?
[05:25] <kingrayray> CyberSlug: no problem, didn't mean to come across as cocky :P
[05:25] <pushpop11> o really
[05:25] <pushpop11> ok
[05:25] <AlexThunde1> !xgl
[05:25] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:25] <bruenig> pushpop11, I personally have just found reading stuff about what to do in a circumstance that I am not currently in doesn't help at all. For instance, before I went to linux I had read that it was hard to install apps. So I would look at guides on how to do it. But they never really helped at all, I was in fact confused beyond explanation. But once I needed to compile a program. I went to the same guides and I was able to figure 
[05:25] <CyberSlug> kingrayray, No problem... Just covering my bases, so that if it doesn't work, I have an excuse :P
[05:25] <kingrayray> hehe =)
[05:25] <xepher> johnt check http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List if your card is supported
[05:25] <surgy> anyone?
[05:25] <CyberSlug> kingrayray, I would try fc-cache first
[05:26] <Aralor> Or if Circumventor cannot be installed on Ubuntu, then what other type of circumventor can be installed?
[05:26] <ekun> i installed my usb wireless adapter driver  with Ndiswrapper but nothing happen, can someone give any solution
[05:26] <johnt> xepher I was following a ubuntu forums howto  but the thing went not too good as some libs failed to load,,,I ran Apt   -f then install network manager but still got the prob
[05:26] <Madpilot> Aralor, what sort of app is Circumentor?
[05:26] <surgy> i want to get pics from an ntfs hard drive how do i do it?
[05:26] <Madpilot> Circumventor, even...
[05:26] <kingrayray> CyberSlug: okay, hold on i'll try it.
[05:27] <Aralor> used to get around blocked sites, etc.
[05:27] <Sid> Anyone here ever set up nvidia tv-out?
[05:27] <Aralor> peacefire.org
[05:27] <theblue> Madpilot, I think he's referring to the Peacefire Circumventor, which is a web-based proxy, popularly used in China to evade the Great Firewall of China.
[05:27] <kingrayray> CyberSlug: okay, running fc-cache didn't work, still the same problem
[05:27] <surgy> ?
[05:28] <CyberSlug> kingrayray, btw - does this only happen with nvidia drivers enabled?
[05:28] <xepher> johnt ask a more experienced linux user, i'm not that familiar with the libraries
[05:28] <kingrayray> CyberSlug: no, it happens under any circumstance now
[05:28] <CyberSlug> kingrayray, What about just startx?
[05:28] <reflexive> could somebody please explain how to stop synaptic from asking for a reload every time i open it?
[05:28] <kingrayray> CyberSlug: startx is how i am starting X.
[05:28] <CyberSlug> kingrayray, gdm?
[05:28] <kingrayray> no dice with gdm either
[05:29] <VitaminG> quick question, does libxine-extracodecs include divxx/xvid codecs?
[05:29] <johnt> xepher   thanks for the response I will get back on the irc a bit later :)
[05:29] <xepher> johnt, sure
[05:29] <kingrayray> is there a script or something that can generate an xorg.conf equivelant to the one installed in a fresh installation of ubuntu?
[05:29] <reflexive> anyone? anyone? bueller?
[05:29] <kingrayray> i tried dpkg-reconfigure and it didn't work either =/
[05:29] <Aleric> Ok, time for another question. tgz gzip -xzf filename.tgz and tar -xzf filename.tgz doesn't work. Am I missing something?
[05:29] <Corporal_Dirge> Does anyone know how to hide the mounted drives from showing on the desktop?
[05:30] <CyberSlug> kingrayray, Hmm.... There is a utility which does it
[05:30] <VitaminG> kingrayray: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:30] <VitaminG> that should work
[05:30] <crimsun> Corporal_Dirge: gconf setting. Use gconf-editor.
[05:30] <kingrayray> VitaminG: i'll try it.
[05:30] <foxjwill> how do i install firefox b2?
[05:30] <CyberSlug> VitaminG, Thanks... You obviously know more than I do.
[05:30] <AnI> hey i just installed a program called tksmb via synaptic how do i find it?
[05:31] <kingrayray> VitaminG: Victory!
[05:31] <rover_lurking> Aleric: try dropping the - in front of xzff
[05:31] <kingrayray> thanks! :)
[05:31] <kingrayray> thanks guys.
[05:31] <rover_lurking> just tar xzf myfile.tgz
[05:31] <VitaminG> kingrayray: actually, I've just crashed my xserver a few (dozen) times
[05:31] <CyberSlug> kingrayray, I did nothing :P.... Glad its working for you
[05:31] <foxjwill> ani: search for it on synaptic, then press the properties button. go to the installed files tab
[05:31] <reflexive> ok, one more time: does _anyone_ know how to prevent synaptic from prompting me to reload the respository list every time i open it? it's pretty annoying. :-/
[05:31] <AnI> thx foxjwill
[05:31] <foxjwill> ani: ur welcome
[05:31] <[M] erk> There's an article in the Washington Post about Ubuntu. It was positive for the most part, but it complained about the lack of multimedia codec support, which is very easily available, and hardware support. They said that it didn't detect their printer and iPod Nano.
[05:32] <CyberSlug> I'll be off now... Take care all.
[05:32] <VitaminG> quick question, does libxine-extracodecs include divxx/xvid codecs?
[05:33] <Sid> Does anyone here know how to configure a nvidia twin-head setup, such that (for example) you switch between them using screen corners, instead of screen edges (you know, with the pointer).
[05:33] <surgy> ok it says i dont have permision to access a file
[05:33] <surgy> actually a volume
[05:33] <Zonoid> The current Linux kernel doesn't support the G5 processor.
[05:33] <surgy> how do i give myelf admin permissions?
[05:34] <VitaminG> surgy: does sudo work?
[05:34] <[M] erk> The article also emphasized that Ubuntu won't hold your hand, but I don't find that to be true. I recently installed Ubuntu on my of my boxen, and it was suprisingly easy to set up. My goal was to not use the terminal during the installation and initial configuration, and I didn't have to use the terminal at all.
[05:34] <surgy> sudo?
[05:34] <chops-> i just installed ubuntu and it came up with Grub loading, please wait..... Error 17 (before it was error 18 but i now only have 2x 20GB partitions on the 200GB drv)
[05:35] <Madpilot> !sudo
[05:35] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:35] <VitaminG> surgy: the syntax is "sudo command", it gives you root access without logging into root
[05:35] <Madpilot> surgy, ^^^
[05:35] <[M] erk> Zonoid: yes it does.
[05:35] <chops-> any idea why i am getting that error 17
[05:35] <Corporal_Dirge> ok, why does not showing icons on the desktop require something that's as vague as a Windows Registry ?
[05:35] <VitaminG> does anyone know if libxine-extracodecs include divxx/xvid codecs?
[05:36] <surgy> bash: !sudo: event not found
[05:36] <WhatTheDeuce> How can I mount an external hard drive for writing?  When it gets mounted by gnome or kde, it is read only
[05:36] <surgy> oh well ill figure it out thanx for the help
[05:36] <bigcx2> hey
[05:36] <shawnrgr_> WhatTheDeuce, is it NTFS ?
[05:37] <bigcx2> has anyone gotten limewire or frostwire to work under edgy?
[05:38] <Sid> bigcx2: for what it's worth: why not use GIFT?
[05:38] <{}justlearningl> is there a way to have mp3's this can be played on windows and ubuntu with only placing them on the hard drive once
[05:38] <Sid> {}justlearningl: do you only have one hard drive?
[05:38] <{}justlearningl> yes
[05:38] <Madpilot> {}justlearningl, use a drive partition that both Ubuntu & XP can read - fat32, or ext3 w/ the free drivers for XP
[05:39] <Corporal_Dirge> ok, I have the conf-editor open. Where is the setting that hides the mounted drives from the desktop?
[05:39] <shawnrgr_> WhatTheDeuce, is it NTFS ?
[05:39] <Sid> {}justlearningl: you should be able to just mount your NTFS drive from Ubuntu
[05:39] <chops-> anyone know what error 17 is ?
[05:39] <Madpilot> chops-, GRUB error 17?
[05:39] <Sid> {}justlearningl: So long as all your MP3s are there, it's cool.
[05:39] <chops-> yes Mad
[05:40] <{}justlearningl> ok, I have only been on unbuntu for about 4 hours know
[05:40] <chops-> i had an error 18 before but resized my partitions
[05:40] <Madpilot> chops-, have you searched on 'GRUB error 17'? There are some good webpages explaining it...
[05:40] <chops-> actually no i haven't
[05:40] <Corporal_Dirge> I can't find where you hide the mounted drives from the desktop.
[05:40] <Sid> {}justlearningl: hmm.... assuming your WindowsXP installation uses NTFS - you can mount it under Ubuntu.
[05:41] <Sid> {}justlearningl: hold on
[05:41] <chops-> doing that now :) thankgod for google
[05:41] <bigcx2> Sid: GIFT?
[05:41] <bigcx2> never tried it
[05:41] <bigcx2> is it p2p?
[05:41] <Sid> yep
[05:41] <bigcx2> cool
[05:41] <compotatoj> What is a good, fast, but stable filesystem for Ubuntu?
[05:41] <Sid> It's a service that you run
[05:42] <bigcx2> i'll check that out
[05:42] <Sid> It has plugins for fasttrack (kazaa) and gnutella limewire
[05:42] <pirate01> can anyone answer me a ? about festival
[05:42] <Sid> ah, hold on
[05:42] <Madpilot> compotatoj, ext3? (which is also the default for Ubuntu...)
[05:42] <Sid> bigcx2: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198945
[05:43] <blmartin777> Is there a better way to use WPA then network manager?
[05:43] <Sid> {}justlearningl: Are you running SATA or IDE drives?
[05:43] <blmartin777> Network manager is very spotty for me
[05:43] <compotatoj> Madpilot: do you think that is the most stable.. i have had it screw me over recently and i tested the hard drive and it says that there are no errors, so i assumed that it was ext3
[05:43] <Knurg> got problems with streaming windows-media from www.nrk.no. is there a website where i can test wether java, flash, and the other firefox-plugins from easy-ubuntu work?
[05:43] <Sid> {}justlearningl: I'm assuming your windows drive isn't showing on your Ubuntu desktop?
[05:44] <{}justlearningl> Sid I dont even know where to look for the drive to be
[05:44] <btrento> I just install xubuntu-desktop and i was wondering if anyone know a wayt to make my gnome incons not show up xfce?
[05:44] <Sid> {}justlearningl: ok
[05:44] <Sid> {}justlearningl: Could you go ahead and run a terminal for me
[05:44] <Mkquist> evening all
[05:44] <Mkquist> ubuntu has no probs w/ext3 right?
[05:44] <Sid> {}justlearningl: And run this command:
[05:45] <Sid> {}justlearningl: sudo fdisk -l
[05:45] <Sid> {}justlearningl: then tell me what it outputs
[05:45] <jordanau> Mkquist, right
[05:45] <pirate01> hey could someone answer a ? for me about festival text to speech
[05:45] <Mkquist> grub error probs... =(
[05:45] <jordanau> Sid, that doesn't have to be run as sudo
[05:45] <{}justlearningl> run a terminal
[05:46] <{}justlearningl> what does then mean
[05:46] <jordanau> !ask > pirate01
[05:46] <Sid> jordanau: Ah, I did not know that.
[05:46] <fishy> How do I change my "user image?" The image that shows up in the logon screen?
[05:46] <Sid> {}justlearningl: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[05:46] <jordanau> Sid, best not to use it when you don't have to
[05:46] <Sid> jordanau: A good point.
[05:47] <Sid> jordanau: Wonder why ubuntuguide lists it with sudo, then...
[05:47] <khaije1> btrento: apt-cache show libxine-extracodecs | less
[05:47] <Corporal_Dirge> WHoever thought it was funny to tell me that the setting to not show mounted drives on the desktop was in gconf you're an ass.
[05:47] <jordanau> fishy, system > administration > login window ?
[05:47] <CArenas2> hello all
[05:47] <Corporal_Dirge> I read through the whole damn thing and it's not there.
[05:47] <Sid> Corporal_Dirge: That sucks... I was kinda hoping to find that too.
[05:48] <Knurg> could someone identify wich firefox-plugins i need to get www.nrk.no webtv going? youtube works fine btw. thanx
[05:48] <btrento> khaijel: will that make the icons not show up in xfce?
[05:48] <Madpilot> fishy, System->Prefs->About Me ?
[05:48] <Corporal_Dirge> I guess Ubuntu likes showing the windows parition on the desktop 24/7
[05:48] <fishy> Madpilot: Is there a command for that?
[05:48] <CArenas2> is there a way to edit my wiki name in the ubuntu wiki?
[05:49] <Madpilot> fishy, no idea - don't you have the Gnome menus visible?
[05:49] <fishy> ok, I got it open, Madpilot
[05:49] <CArenas2> my name is in camelcase in launchpad but not in ubuntu wiki, but i dont know how to fix
[05:49] <bigcx2> Sid: gift will not start
[05:49] <fishy> Madpilot: Where are all the default user images? Which dir?
[05:49] <Madpilot> CArenas2, try #ubuntu-doc, that's where the wiki team hangs out
[05:49] <{}justlearningl> Disk /dev/hda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
[05:49] <{}justlearningl> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
[05:49] <{}justlearningl> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[05:49] <{}justlearningl>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[05:49] <{}justlearningl> /dev/hda1   *           1       12748   102398278+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:49] <{}justlearningl> /dev/hda2           12749       25497   102406342+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:49] <bigcx2> the giftd
[05:49] <{}justlearningl> /dev/hda3           25498       25599      819315   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[05:49] <{}justlearningl> /dev/hda4           25600       30401    38572065   83  Linux
[05:49] <Sid> You guys know how, in windows, you can graphically set up a secondary display to be on the "corner" of the primary, instead of to the left/right/etc.? Is there a way to do that in Ubuntu?
[05:49] <{}justlearningl> thomas@thomas-desktop:~$
[05:50] <Madpilot> {}justlearningl, do NOT paste here, use a pastebin
[05:50] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[05:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:50] <Sid> bigcx2: what does it say when you run "giftd" from the terminal?
[05:50] <bigcx2> i've ran the stup about a million times now
[05:50] <jordanau> {}justlearningl, what are you trying to do?
[05:51] <Sid> {}justlearningl: Thanks. Let me just read through this...
[05:51] <bigcx2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21258
[05:51] <bhrobinson> Hi. I could use a hand on multi mon with multi cards
[05:51] <CArenas2> Madpilot: thx, will do.
[05:51] <bhrobinson> anyone experienced in it?
[05:51] <bigcx2> i don't see anything in the setup that would be illegal though
[05:52] <Sid> bigcx2: You have to make sure to answer the first question as "1" and the "plugins" question appropriately.
[05:52] <chops-> so grubs only used if ur running multi O/S ?
[05:52] <Madpilot> chops-, no, Ubuntu uses grub all the time
[05:52] <fishy> Where are the user images held? Like the penguin, the clown fish, etc.?
[05:52] <pirate01> is festival supposed to show up as an app or what?
[05:53] <william__> so I just used Automatix but I cannot figure out how to get my resolution up where I want it
[05:53] <Madpilot> fishy, probably somewhere in /usr/share/
[05:53] <bigcx2> Sid: thats what i was missing, the first question had to be a 1
[05:53] <Fastburn> New to Ubuntu, I've got most of my partitons set up. I'm trying to share a FAT32 200GiG section of a drive for media shared between Ubuntu and Windows. This was paritioned in gparted. Windows sees it, Ubuntu doesnt. (Disks Manager sees the partition, but says it's inaccessible)
[05:53] <fishy> Madpilot, there are a lot of directories in /usr/share
[05:53] <bhrobinson> anyone have experience with multimon?
[05:53] <tnzr> aa
[05:54] <{}justlearningl> Sid I have to go back to windows know, thanks for your help
[05:54] <bhrobinson> I have 2 5200 Nvidia cards. I have 4 19" monitors... I cannot get the second card to come up at all with the AGP in the machine
[05:54] <Madpilot> fishy, I know, but I bet the default user image are in one of them... sorry, I've no idea which it might be, though
[05:54] <bhrobinson> any help is appreciated
[05:55] <hangfire> I want to try some OpenGL programming with SDL, can anyone tell me what librarys I need from the repo?
[05:55] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: wait you wanna hook up four monitors?
[05:55] <luka> hi,
[05:55] <Sid> bigcx2: Cool. After that, you just have to worry about the plugins question (otherwise it won't connect anywhere), and the rest should be all defaults.
[05:55] <bhrobinson> yes
[05:55] <Sid> bigcx2: oh
[05:55] <bigcx2> Sid: what client do you use?
[05:55] <Fastburn> Can anyone help me with my question?
[05:55] <luka> Any body know how can I remove RealPlayer? (I installed it from bin file)
[05:55] <Sid> bigcx2: You running gnome or kde?
[05:55] <bigcx2> gnome
[05:55] <bigcx2> i don't like apollo
[05:55] <bhrobinson> compotatoj, I can get either of the 2 working... but not all 4
[05:56] <Sid> bigcx2: giftui
[05:56] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: can you get 2 working, one on each?
[05:56] <bigcx2> k
[05:56] <Sid> bigcx2: Nice and easy to use.
[05:56] <bhrobinson> compotatoj, no... same video card only
[05:56] <compotatoj> Fastburn: I would love to but that doesn't make sense.. how did you make a 200gb fat32 partition from windows?
[05:56] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: what about can you get both to work on the other card?
[05:56] <bhrobinson> compotatoj, I think I have the xorg.conf set right. is there a place to send it to you?
[05:57] <bhrobinson> compotatoj, only if I pull the A
[05:57] <bigcx2> Sid: does the gift daemon start @ boot time
[05:57] <bhrobinson> AGP card
[05:57] <Sid> bigcx2: Although if it doesn't work for whatever reason, try giftcurs
[05:57] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: pastebin, not here :)
[05:57] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: is it SLI?
[05:57] <Sid> bigcx2: No, usually it starts when you click on your client
[05:57] <Fastburn> Compotatoj: I made the Partition in Gnome Partition Manger (Gparted), Windows sees it, Ubuntu says it's inaccesible.
[05:57] <bigcx2> k
[05:57] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: i think that is the problem, it isn't SLI and it was only meant for one in
[05:57] <bhrobinson> compotatoj, no... old school only
[05:58] <compotatoj> Fastburn: so after you made it, you never tested it in linux?
[05:58] <Mkquist> compotato- i think he said he used gparted
[05:58] <Sid> bigcx2: However, you could very well set it up to do so under Sessions, and make sure your client does not turn it off when it exits.
[05:58] <Fastburn> I just tested it in Linux.
[05:58] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: wait so it is AGP and PCI-E?
[05:58] <bigcx2> right
[05:58] <bhrobinson> compotatoj, you cannot use 2 video cards? would putting in another PCI be better?
[05:58] <compotatoj> Fastburn: so it worked at one point in linux?
[05:59] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: the only way i know of using 2 video cards is SLI with two PCI express cards
[05:59] <compotatoj> unless you have a really old card that uses regular PCI i don't know
[05:59] <Fastburn> Compotatoj: It hasn't worked in Linux, I formatted the unused space in Gparted, checked on it in Windows, and then came to Linux. Windows sees it and wites fine. Linux sees it through Disks Manager, but says it's inacessible.
[05:59] <william__> Anyone know why I cannot get my resolution past 1024x768 after I install automatix?  I tried editing xorg.conf and adding the resolution but no luck :(
[05:59] <compotatoj> Fastburn: i'm pretty sure after you format it with fdisk you need to do one more step.. i forgot what though
[06:00] <compotatoj> Fastburn: look up how to format fat32 in linux
[06:00] <Fastburn> Compotatoj, I didn't format it with Fdisk. I formated it with Gparted.
[06:00] <Lane> Anybody in here have their ccsp
[06:00] <compotatoj> william__: are you using the nv or nvidia driver?
[06:01] <william__> compotatoj, nvidia, I even have the nvidia settings applet under system tools
[06:01] <untung> Hi, anyone know how to unzip rar files in ubuntu?
[06:01] <Sid> untung: install the "rar" package in Synaptic
[06:01] <T> Hi!
[06:02] <Lane> hi
[06:02] <Sid> heh
[06:02] <Sid> T, eh?
[06:02] <compotatoj> william__: did you run nvidia-xconfig?
[06:02] <T> pi need help, i want to compile something but i cant find libqt3-mt-dev and all the dep's in a repo
[06:02] <Sid> DIdn't expect a consonant nickname would be free.
[06:02] <compotatoj> Fastburn: sorry i don't know what could be wrong
[06:03] <william__> compotatoj, I just did
[06:03] <untung> Sid: what is the name of rar packagae?
[06:03] <T> i am T.S.P i don't know why ths rip of my nick name :D
[06:03] <Sid> untung: just "rar"
[06:03] <william__> compotatoj, will it know to set my res to 1920x1080
[06:03] <Fastburn> Compotatoj: So, using Gparted, it should see it normally then right?
[06:03] <Sid> untung: run "sudo apt-get install rar" in a terminal, and it should install.
[06:03] <compotatoj> Fastburn: yeah
[06:03] <bhrobinson>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY Pioneer3
[06:04] <compotatoj> william__: i'm pretty sure it has a lot of options
[06:04] <Sid> Anyone here know if you can set up a dual head to be anything other than "rightof" or "leftof" your primary display, for nvidia?
[06:04] <bhrobinson> compotatoj, sorry about that... lost power
[06:04] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: was that a joke
[06:04] <T> i need to find a repo with all the dec's files to build a kde app, help please
[06:04] <btrento> I just install xubuntu-desktop and i was wondering if anyone know a way to make my gnome incons not show up xfce?
[06:04] <bhrobinson> what were you asking?
[06:04] <william__> compotatoj, all it said it did was change xorg.conf didnt give me any options
[06:04] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: maybe from using 4 monitors at once
[06:04] <bhrobinson> lol.. thanks
[06:04] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: i was asking about your motherboard setup
[06:05] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: is it new, and are your cards new
[06:05] <Lane> Tommorow, I have to set a (hardware)raid array in fedora, or mepis....if it works properly will I see only a single hardrive in the MEPIS/FEDORA install(or qparted)
[06:05] <william__> compotatoj, Im going to restart brb
[06:06] <cobrat> hello
[06:06] <bhrobinson> compotatoj, it is a Precision 650 Dual Proc Xeon 3.06/ 2 gig ram with 1 AGP Nvidia 5200 128 meg and 1 nvidia 256 meg
[06:06] <Guitarhero11> I click on synaptic package manager, give it my password, but it doesnt open
[06:06] <Guitarhero11> add/remove opens but advanced mode wont
[06:06] <Guitarhero11> i need help
[06:06] <bhrobinson> compotatoj, It has been my windows workstation for quite a while
[06:06] <compotatoj> Guitarhero11: try restarting?
[06:06] <Guitarhero11> yes
[06:07] <Lane> Anyone know where to ask this question: Tommorow, I have to set a (hardware)raid array in fedora, or mepis....if it works properly will I see only a single hardrive in the MEPIS/FEDORA install(or qparted)
[06:07] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: did you get the 4 monitors to work in windows?
[06:07] <FirstStrike> Guitarhero11: run sudo synaptic in a console and show us the output
[06:07] <Sid> Corporal_Dirge: thanks, by the way. Good to know it's possible to actually hide those annoying icons.
[06:07] <bhrobinson> compotatoj, yes
[06:07] <Guitarhero11> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:07] <Megaqwerty> how do I cd (in the terminal) to a folder with spaces in it?
[06:07] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: so is one agp and one pci (oldschool pci)
[06:08] <FirstStrike> cd /folder/blah\ blah2/
[06:08] <bhrobinson> compotatoj, yes sir
[06:08] <Megaqwerty> Guitarhero11: This fixed it for me: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239475&highlight=synaptic+package+manager
[06:08] <cobrat> has anyone here installed dapper on an oldworld mac like a Beige G3?
[06:08] <compotatoj> Megaqwerty: you know you can hit tab and it completes the thing for you
[06:08] <Megaqwerty> oh, cool
[06:08] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[06:09] <william__> compotatoj, I restarted but nothing
[06:09] <compotatoj> compotatoj: so you followed the nvidia-xsettings thing?
[06:09] <Megaqwerty> compotatoj: thanks
[06:09] <compotatoj> Megaqwerty: no problem
[06:09] <Guitarhero11> sweet it worked!
[06:09] <Megaqwerty> guitarhero11: you're welcome! :)
[06:10] <william__> compotatoj, nvidia-xconfig or nvidia-xsettings?
[06:10] <Guitarhero11> Im trying to install easyh10 and its missing dependencies i find them with synaptic right?
[06:10] <Megaqwerty> Possibly.
[06:10] <Megaqwerty> if you can install it from synaptic, it will install the dependencies for you
[06:10] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: i have never heard of having two video cards working with that setup.. but if you say it worked in windows, try looking up something on google like: two video cards linux agp pci -sli
[06:10] <Megaqwerty> or you can find them with synaptic
[06:11] <compotatoj> william__: xconfig
[06:11] <Sid> ok
[06:11] <bhrobinson> been doing it for hours...
[06:11] <Megaqwerty> (if they are there) if not, you will have to download the files from the net
[06:11] <Guitarhero11> alright cool
[06:11] <Sid> Here's a good question
[06:11] <Sid> You know how you can have a separate desktop for each of your monitors?
[06:11] <bhrobinson> compotatoj, do you think a different brand card would make a difference?
[06:11] <Guitarhero11> its in there, it was weird the one it said it was missing appeared to be installed
[06:11] <compotatoj> william__: whoops i mean xsettings i think
[06:12] <compotatoj> william__: it gives you like some menu to choose from stuff
[06:12] <Sid> Is there a way to switch between monitor desktops that doesn't involve dragging the mouse cursor to the ends of the screens?
[06:12] <william__> compotatoj, inside xsettings I see nothing for resolution
[06:12] <Megaqwerty> Guitarhero11: Then try re-installing it. after doing a complete removal.
[06:12] <Guitarhero11> alright
[06:12] <compotatoj> william__: sorry i messed up, i know what it is.. hold on 1 second
[06:13] <william__> np compotatoj
[06:13] <ThePrynce> Question...  Anyone around?
[06:13] <Megaqwerty> guitarhero11: if you need anymore help just say my name in your message in the chat. Gaim will tell me.
[06:13] <Guitarhero11> alrtight thanks
[06:13] <n30> i have a question. how do you get the ssh daemon started from the desktop cd?
[06:14] <Guitarhero11> Megaqwerty when i try to run the program it says: ryan@tank:~$ easyh10
[06:14] <Guitarhero11> EasyH10 [CUI]  1.2.1  Copyright (c) 2005 by Nyaochi
[06:14] <Guitarhero11> ERROR: H10 model template is not found.
[06:14] <compotatoj> william__: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:14] <xepher> Guitarhero11, use the postboard
[06:14] <chops-> can i uninstall grub ?
[06:15] <YeTr2_> well, I have an nvidia splash screen now...
[06:15] <compotatoj> chops-: not sure, but you could try just overwriting the MBR with something else
[06:15] <xepher> anyone know any poker sites that work with linux?
[06:15] <Megaqwerty> guitarhero11: I'll look into it, just give me a min.
[06:15] <chops-> really annoying with grub doing that error 17
[06:15] <compotatoj> xepher: haha, for fun or for money
[06:15] <Guitarhero11> thank you
[06:15] <xepher> compotatoj, for fun
[06:16] <ThePrynce> Is there awa
[06:16] <Lane> Anyone know where to ask this question: Tommorow, I have to set a (hardware)raid array in fedora, or mepis....if it works properly will I see only a single hardrive in the MEPIS/FEDORA install(or qparted)
[06:16] <compotatoj> xepher: no, sorry :(
[06:16] <solarce> fun, so I just converted my desktop and ibook to ubuntu, dapper is quite amazing
[06:16] <ThePrynce> *Is there any way to install without having to boot onto the CD and go through the live version?
[06:16] <n30> i have a question. how do you get the ssh daemon started from the desktop cd?
[06:16] <xepher> compotatoj, how about for money? :)(
[06:16] <compotatoj> william__: is it working?
[06:16] <william__> compotatoj, I think that was it.. brb...
[06:16] <dibblego> would I be able to install Ubuntu 6.06 Desktop on a USB stick and boot off it?
[06:17] <Sid> ThePrynce: yeah, you can install the standard Install CD, I think.
[06:17] <william__> compotatoj, do you have a link I can bookmark so I can go back to that another day
[06:17] <compotatoj> xepher: i don't know if they have one, but try looking for flash poker sites
[06:17] <ThePrynce> From Windows?  Would I be able to partion, etc. from there?
[06:17] <sutel> w
[06:17] <Lane> welcome texan
[06:17] <compotatoj> william__: i need one too, i always have to google the command
[06:17] <william__> :)
[06:17] <william__> ok brb compotatoj
[06:17] <xepher> compotatoj, i was fearing that. i think the closest i'll get to the real thing is yahoo (java)
[06:19] <Fastburn> I need help mounting a FAT32 Patition on Linux so I can access it.
[06:19] <solarce> Fastburn: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdxX /mnt/foo
[06:20] <william_> compotatoj, I thought it was going to work but I'm back at 1024.   :(
[06:20] <compotatoj> william_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[06:20] <Fastburn> solarce, you rock
[06:20] <compotatoj> william_: did you choose the nvidia driver over the nv one
[06:20] <william_> nvidia
[06:21] <solarce> Fastburn: thanks :)
[06:21] <solarce> Fastburn: let me know if you need anything else
[06:21] <william_> compotatoj, Ive done this before a while back but it wasnt this hard lol I dunno what I've done wrong
[06:22] <keithhhh> when installing VMWare I got this error.....anyone have a solution?? E: vmware-player: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:22] <compotatoj> william_: me too, but that always seems to work :(
[06:22] <Guitarhero11> 
[06:22] <william_> brb
[06:23] <compotatoj> Fastburn: i think you want to add the drive to the fstab so you won't always have to remount it
[06:23] <hush`> I need some help
[06:23] <ThePrynce> I want to partition with WinXP home but when I use the live version to install it runs super slow and I can't get past the first screen (which takes about 45 minutes to load) on the installation.  Anyone?
[06:23] <Megaqwerty> Guitarhero11: what are you trying to do? I can't figure it out, but I might be able to suggest a substitute program
[06:23] <solarce> ThePrynce: define the first screen
[06:23] <Fastburn> compotatoj, how do I do that?
[06:23] <Guitarhero11> I am trying to connect my mp3 player as a usb storage device to add songs
[06:23] <Guitarhero11> ive added them but it does not show on the player because the list has to be updated on it somehow
[06:24] <ThePrynce> solarce - The language selection screen
[06:24] <Megaqwerty> huh
[06:24] <MrKeuner> hi, which one is the package to put "Decrypt" pgp encrypted file into the nautilus shell? Encrypt is already there.
[06:24] <solarce> Fastburn: you'll need to edit /etc/fstab and add the line, you should be able to get away with copying the line for / just change the file system type to vfat
[06:24] <Guitarhero11> I have an iRiver H10 that usually uses Windows Media Player 10, but that is not an option on linuc
[06:24] <Guitarhero11> linux*
[06:24] <Megaqwerty> right
[06:25] <solarce> ThePrynce: what are the specifications of your desktop
[06:25] <Megaqwerty> um...just a sec, lemme see If I can find somewhere where they can help you
[06:25] <evilgeek> can't you just mount it?
[06:25] <ThePrynce> Its a laptop
[06:25] <evilgeek> usually their just fat32 partitions (vfat)
[06:25] <MrKeuner> hi, which one is the package to put "Decrypt" pgp encrypted file into the nautilus context menu? Encrypt is already there.
[06:25] <solarce> evilgeek: a mount won't last througha  reboot
[06:25] <ThePrynce> solarce- Its a laptop
[06:25] <compotatoj> Fastburn: solarce basically summed it up but i can give you what to type if you want.. just tell me where your mountpoint is and what drive thing it is (like /dev/sda#)
[06:25] <Megaqwerty> evilgeek: he says he can transfer the files though they just don't show up
[06:26] <evilgeek> ...? maybe hidden files?
[06:26] <Guitarhero11> yes it auto mounts in emergency connection mode
[06:26] <Guitarhero11> ive looked for an xml file or something to edit but nothing seems to do it
[06:26] <solarce> ThePrynce: yes, but what is the processor, ram, hd?
[06:26] <Fastburn> compotatoj, it's /dev/hdb3, as far as mnt point, like?
[06:26] <Sid> So.. any nvidia dual-head peeps here? I was hoping you could tell me of options other than "leftof" and "rightof".
[06:27] <compotatoj> Fastburn: like /mnt/hdb3 or something
[06:27] <hush`> I need some help installing Wine :(
[06:27] <hush`> i want to use uTorrent
[06:27] <Sid> hmm..
[06:27] <compotatoj> hush`: just use azureus
[06:27] <solarce> Fastburn: first of all make a mount point, say, /mnt/storage or /mnt/media
[06:28] <hush`> i dont like azureaus
[06:28] <solarce> Sid: there are a plenty of configs online for that
[06:28] <Megaqwerty> Guitarhero11: I have no idea what is wrong, but I would contact the support people at whatever company makes iRiver
[06:28] <hush`> i prefer utorrent
[06:28] <Megaqwerty> sorry I can't be of any real help as I don't own one
[06:28] <Fastburn> solarce, it is media, but only mountpoints I made where in the LiveCD setup.
[06:28] <Sid> solarce: Are there configs for nvidia that let you set up your secondary monitor on top/bottom of your primary?
[06:28] <Guitarhero11> alright, but i dont think they support linux anyway
[06:28] <Guitarhero11> thank you a lot anyway for trying
[06:28] <Sid> solarce: Or, perhaps, on a corner, like in Windows?
[06:28] <hush`> why is it so much harder to install stuff.. like.. compiling etc.. with the terminal on linux - that is really confusing to me
[06:29] <solarce> Sid: possibly, I'd refer to the README
[06:29] <hush`> maybe i just dont know how to use it yet
[06:29] <ThePrynce> solarce- 256 kb, 20 gigs, hold a secon for the processor
[06:30] <solarce> Sid: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/index.html
[06:30] <wweasel> darn, I just got guitarh hero's answer
[06:30] <solarce> Sid: it lists all the options, it is what I used when I first pieced my dual head config together
[06:30] <wweasel> first result on google if you search "ubuntu iriver h10" :P
[06:30] <william_> compotatoj, say I wanted to start over with installing Nvidia.. what should I do?
[06:30] <Sid> solarce: So do you use dual-head with the two screens side-to-side?
[06:30] <solarce> wweasel: ssshhhh, we can't expect them to google when they have irc ;)
[06:31] <Fastburn> solarce: How do I create a mountpoint for the parititon?
[06:31] <solarce> Sid: I did, I've also used three side by side, right now I just have one lcd
[06:31] <ThePrynce> solarce - Actually its 192 mb, 40 gigs, 1.30 ghz Intel Celeron
[06:31] <solarce> Fastburn: just 'sudo mkdir /mnt/media'
[06:31] <compotatoj> william_: you could go to synaptic and remove completely the nvidia whatever configs
[06:31] <solarce> ThePrynce: well, it's likely to be slow, not as slow as you've described, it's possible you have a bum disc, is it a burned cd or from shipit?
[06:31] <compotatoj> william_: i think there is a better way but i'm not thinking straight
[06:32] <ThePrynce> Burned
[06:32] <Fastburn> solarce: Done, now what?
[06:32] <solarce> ThePrynce: do you have another computer you can benchmark the cd in?
[06:32] <ThePrynce> solarce - Only to run it live but its likely a slower system even
[06:33] <solarce> Fastburn: add the following to /etc/fast '/dev/hdb3    /mnt/media    vfat    defaults    0 0'
[06:33] <solarce> Fastburn: you'll need to do edit the file using sudo, use your editor of choice
[06:33] <compotatoj> Fastburn: solarce: remember to add ,user to it also
[06:33] <compotatoj> so the user can write to it
[06:33] <solarce> righto
[06:33] <solarce> good call
[06:34] <compotatoj> you might also have to add uid=1000 or something
[06:34] <compotatoj>  /etc/fast '/dev/hdb3    /mnt/media    vfat    defaults,user,uid=1000   0 0'
[06:34] <william_> Can someone walk me through installing Nvidia drivers?  I've tried automatix and BUMPS and a couple other things
[06:35] <solarce> they should really put a big banner in the topic pointing to the wiki
[06:35] <solarce> :(
[06:35] <FirstStrike> uid=000 is fine for fat partitions
[06:35] <FirstStrike> er
[06:35] <FirstStrike> umask
[06:36] <FirstStrike> william_: sudo apt get nvidia-glx
[06:36] <FirstStrike> ap-get
[06:36] <FirstStrike> ...
[06:36] <solarce> wweasel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:36] <FirstStrike> apt-get
[06:36] <solarce> ern
[06:36] <solarce> william_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:36] <wweasel> :)
[06:36] <AshDragonScale> how do I make my WIndows ntfs partitions writeable in ubuntu? I have them readable but cannot write to them... Anyone?
[06:36] <wweasel> AshDragonScale: It's not recommended.
[06:36] <william_> thanks FirstStrike, solarce
[06:36] <compotatoj> isn't there something like uid=1000 so the user can write to it
[06:36] <Fastburn> Solarce, whats the terminal command to the file, having trouble
[06:36] <solarce> AshDragonScale: you'll probably want to get the ntfs-3g drivers from what I understand
[06:36] <william_> brb
[06:37] <solarce> Fastburn: sudo vim /etc/fstab
[06:37] <compotatoj> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[06:37] <FirstStrike> AshDragonScale: : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_users_read_and_write_access
[06:37] <compotatoj> or sudo nano /etc/fstab
[06:37] <AshDragonScale> well... that is ok... I can pull the files that I need out and use them here... then stick them on my jump... thanks
[06:37] <Gun-Nut> Hiya :) if anyone has a moment could someone look at my post (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240517) need help installing :(
[06:38] <wweasel> AshDragonScale: For read/write in Windows and Linux use FAT32 or ext2.
[06:38] <FirstStrike> everyone should have the ubuntuguide site bookmarked >_>
[06:38] <FirstStrike> tons of info right there
[06:38] <wweasel> AshDragonScale: NTFS can be done, but it is rather risky.
[06:38] <FirstStrike> wweasel: ntfs-3g works fine for writing
[06:38] <FirstStrike> they've written and deleted millions of files using it and have had no issues yet
[06:38] <wweasel> FirstStrike: It is still alpha software and still corrupts sometimes. It works, yes.
[06:39] <solarce> AshDragonScale: http://ubuntuos.wordpress.com/2006/08/02/howto-write-to-windows-ntfs-drive-from-ubuntu-ntfs-3g/
[06:39] <Fastburn> Solarce, COmpotatoj, So to get this FAT32 goin, just drop this into that file? '/dev/hdb3    /mnt/media    vfat    defaults,user,uid=1000   0 0'?
[06:39] <crofty> hi , i am looking for  a program on ubuntu that will show the thunderbird profile.js file in a user readable way , so that i can easily get the setting for a number email accounts, the profile.js is on 2nd hard drive fitted to this machine
[06:40] <evilgeek> sound about right; just add it to /etc/fstab
[06:40] <erikgz> how does one figure out which processes/services are accessing a disk, and when?
[06:40] <compotatoj> Fastburn: no, because i don't think that you can write to /mnt/
[06:40] <compotatoj> Fastburn type: mkdir /media/media
[06:40] <compotatoj> then add this to the fstab:
[06:40] <local> how do i get md0p1 of my raid array to show in /dev so it cam be formatted?
[06:41] <Fastburn> I already did a mkdir /mount/media
[06:41] <Fastburn> err, /mnt/media
[06:41] <compotatoj> trust me then add /dev/hdb3    /media/media    vfat    defaults,user   0 0
[06:41] <compotatoj> do mkdir (no sudo) /media/media
[06:42] <vedder_> Hi!
[06:42] <vedder_> i need to install kdelibs4-dev but i can't
[06:42] <vedder_> i have dependecy problems :(
[06:42] <erikgz> every 15 seconds, something is writing to disk.  i turn off all the logging services, and it doesn't stop.  what is it??
[06:42] <erikgz> it's writing ~80 blocks every 15 seconds, without variation
[06:42] <erikgz> and driving me mad
[06:42] <linlin> how do i mount an iso file locally without burning it?
[06:43] <erikgz> how do i figure out what this is?
[06:43] <solarce> haha, why?
[06:43] <phargle> vedder_: better than having continence issues
[06:43] <local> erikgz, how do u know its every 15?
[06:43] <erikgz> vmstat 1
[06:43] <hush`> i need some helping learning how to use Wine - and the guys in the Wine channel was a jackass so I left.
[06:43] <FirstStrike> linlin: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Image_.28ISO.29_files_without_burning
[06:43] <erikgz> actually, it's probably more like every 10
[06:43] <vedder_> why is so hard to get all the packs to start compile in ubuntu?
[06:43] <local> erikgz, thats mor than i know.. sorry i cant help
[06:43] <solarce> FirstStrike: good show
[06:43] <FirstStrike> hush`: so..what do you want to know?
[06:43] <ThePrynce> solarce- I just teste it on an old and slower work computer and everything is working well an going pretty fast
[06:44] <vedder_> i have 2 weeks in dapper and i can doa nything
[06:44] <erikgz> local: it's every 5 seconds
[06:44] <erikgz> exactly
[06:44] <erikgz> it goes... 80 blocks, then 76, 76, 80, 76, 76, 80 ...
[06:44] <solarce> vedder_: anything?! anything in the world?
[06:44] <hush`> firststrike: thanks - I'm just trying to figure out how to use Wine and get uTorrent working on Ubuntu :)
[06:44] <erikgz> clockwork.  anyone know how to shut down the system metronome??
[06:44] <Fastburn> Compotatoj, when I try to mkdir, i get this: mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/media': Permission denied
[06:44] <local> i have a disk but its partition is not showing in /dev   it does show in cfdisk and fdisk -l   how do i get he partition in /dev to show up?
[06:45] <FirstStrike> hush`: i'm assuming you have it installed?
[06:45] <bhrobinson> compotatoj, I have 3 of the 4 working now
[06:45] <erikgz> local: what type of disk?
[06:45] <erikgz> type ls -l /dev/{s,h}da
[06:45] <FirstStrike> cd to the directory where you have the file you want to run
[06:45] <hush`> firststrike: I have Wine installed, yes - but I'm not sure how to install uTorrent and get it running.
[06:45] <wweasel> hush`: I can help, I did that yesterday. I just started reading though, so I don't know your question
[06:45] <erikgz> local: give you anything?
[06:45] <erikgz> oh, sorry...
[06:45] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: awesome!
[06:45] <local> erikgz, the disk is /dev/md0 from mdadm   thats fine.. then i made a md0p1 with cfdisk /dev/md0     but there is no md0p1 in /dev ..
[06:45] <phargle> whitehorseNtiger: is windows firewall turned off?
[06:45] <hush`> wweasel: thanks!
[06:45] <FirstStrike> type wine setup.exe (replace setup.exe with whatever the .exe is) in the terminal
[06:45] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: what did  you do
[06:45] <wweasel> hush`: Download uTorrent.exe
[06:46] <whitehorseNtiger> I don't have a windows box
[06:46] <hush`> from the utorrent website.. or from synaptics
[06:46] <bhrobinson> compotatoj, I pulled the AGP card and put in an ATI video
[06:46] <linlin> thankyou FirstStrike
[06:46] <wweasel> hush`: from www.utorrent.com - get the standalone file
[06:46] <bhrobinson> and then reset all the vars in the xorg.conf
[06:46] <erikgz> local: ls -l /dev/md*
[06:46] <hush`> ok
[06:46] <whitehorseNtiger> I think I am setting up proftp wrong
[06:46] <erikgz> returns nothing?
[06:46] <bhrobinson> strange though, if I put the Nvidia as the primary, locks the system tight
[06:46] <hush`> wweasel: are you new to ubuntu too?
[06:46] <wweasel> hush`: new enough. 5 months.
[06:47] <local> erikgz,  that shows a bunch of md disks.. .but not p1  just md0 - md21
[06:47] <hush`> wweasel: bah thats not new!  - i'm something like 4 days new
[06:47] <erikgz> hmm
[06:47] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: lemme guess, it only has 1 slot?
[06:47] <Fastburn> Compotatoj, I did 'sudo mkdir /mnt/media', and it worked
[06:47] <erikgz> local: have you tried mounting all of them ;)
[06:47] <whitehorseNtiger> phargle: I followed, or I thought I followed a howto on the forum, but it isn't working.
[06:47] <solarce> haha, I've been at this since 98 :)
[06:47] <Mkquist> to you ubuntu old times out there, is there a surge in interest in ubuntu all of the sudden or has it always been like this?
[06:47] <solarce> debian then mind you
[06:47] <local> lol erikgz i cant mount it .. its not in /dev thats my point
[06:47] <Mkquist> timers*
[06:47] <bhrobinson> compotatoj, one slot? are you talking the graphics card?
[06:47] <wweasel> hush`: tell me when you have uTorrent.exe
[06:47] <whitehorseNtiger> phargle: I log in.....nothing happens.
[06:47] <hush`> got it
[06:48] <solarce> Mkquist: it's been like this, it always is, though dapper has brought a lot of new people
[06:48] <solarce> Mkquist: it happens with every distro
[06:48] <whitehorseNtiger> phargle: username, password....'ls' or
[06:48] <local> md0 is like hda right erikgz ?  so i partitioned md0 with cfdisk.. just that hte partition doesnt show in /dev
[06:48] <Mkquist> ic
[06:48] <solarce> Mkquist: it's called a bandwagon :)
[06:48] <wweasel> hush`: you can store it anywhere you like. your home folder. ~/.wine/Program_Files or wtvr the specific folder is called. it doesn't really matter
[06:48] <Mkquist> lol
[06:48] <whitehorseNtiger> phargle : 'dir' doesn't work.  it just hangs.
[06:48] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: ya
[06:48] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: like one vga or one dvi
[06:48] <solarce> Mkquist: it's not a bad thing, it is just the way of the world, in a few years some of these new people will be old hat advising the next bunch
[06:49] <Mkquist> hope
[06:49] <solarce> Mkquist: it's the way of the world, it happens with everything, computers and otherwise
[06:49] <wweasel> hush`: Have you done winecfg?
[06:49] <bhrobinson> compotatoj, depends on the card... one has 2 vga and the other has one dvi and one vga
[06:49] <Fastburn> solarce: compotatoj: I did the mkdir /mnt/media, it succeeded. Will the line work now?
[06:49] <hush`> wweasel: no
[06:49] <local> erikgz, ?
[06:49] <solarce> Fastburn: it should, if it doesn't come back and tell us :)
[06:49] <solarce> Fastburn: it won't hurt anything, just not automount if it is wrong
[06:49] <Gun-Nut> Anyway to install Ubuntu to another HD from windows?
[06:49] <whitehorseNtiger> phargle: I don't need ftp much.  I have a friend who needs to get some pictures I took with his camera to me.  He could email them to me but I don't have that kind of space on my email account.
[06:49] <TSP_X> Hey hi all :D
[06:49] <wweasel> hush: not a problem. decide where you want to store your uTorrent.exe file, and then open up a Terminal and run 'winecfg'
[06:50] <TSP_X> can i add a mirror like a repo?
[06:50] <erikgz> local: you can loop through all the devices and see which ones, if any, mount ro
[06:50] <solarce> whitehorseNtiger: gmail!
[06:50] <wweasel> hush`: (sorry, misspelled your name) not a problem. decide where you want to store your uTorrent.exe file, and then open up a Terminal and run 'winecfg'
[06:50] <erikgz> that's a bit stupid though
[06:50] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: so is the reason the last one isn't working because you haven't added it to the xorg.conf file?
[06:50] <whitehorseNtiger> phargle:  I thought about setting up a mail server instead of a ftp server, then I wouldn't have a problem.
[06:50] <Mkquist> phargle: why not use one of the free hosting services?
[06:50] <ProN00b> is there any development environment like visual studio is for windows for linux ? i mean with a form designer inbuilt and stuff
[06:50] <local> erikgz, why woudl i mount /dev/md0 ?  the issue si that the partition on md0 called md0p1 is not in /dev so it cannot be mounted
[06:50] <solarce> ProN00b: depends on the language
[06:51] <wweasel> hush`: in the Applications tab, set your Windows Version to Windows XP.
[06:51] <solarce> ProN00b: I hear kdevelop is nice for c/c++
[06:51] <whitehorseNtiger> solarce:  Actually, no.  I have 2gigs of space on fastmail.fm
[06:51] <wweasel> hush`: Confirm that you're with me, I don't want to go too fast.
[06:51] <solarce> ProN00b: you might try monodevelop if you want c#
[06:51] <compotatoj> ProN00b: there is like glade and stuff but i haven't figured it out yet
[06:51] <bhrobinson> compotato, no.. it is because I have to turn on twinview...
[06:51] <bhrobinson> trying that now
[06:51] <ProN00b> solarce, no, c/c++, but kde is a no-no
[06:51] <TSP_X> http://mirror.clarkson.edu/pub/distributions/ubuntu/pool/main/q/qt-x11-free/  <----how can i add this like a repo?
[06:51] <Fastburn> solarce: and this one with that mnt? '/dev/hdb3    /mnt/media    vfat    defaults    0 0'
[06:51] <whitehorseNtiger> solarce: he has like 100mb of images for me.
[06:51] <bhrobinson> compotato, brb
[06:51] <solarce> whitehorseNtiger: fedex him a usb drive :D
[06:52] <whitehorseNtiger> :)  heheh
[06:52] <TheMoebius> I'm trying to reinstall grub after windows replaced my MBR. do I type `grub-install /dev/hda` where hda is drive from which the computer boots or is hda the drive on which the /boot partition sits?
[06:52] <whitehorseNtiger> he lives not far
[06:52] <ProN00b> compotatoj, i am currently trying to figure out how anjuta works (the only thing with glade tied in i could find), and its kinda hard
[06:52] <Gun-Nut> Can I please get some help on my install problem when people are free :) (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240517)
[06:52] <local> erikgz, .. md0 is mountable and is ext3 . since md0 is a disk i wanted to partition it.. and make md0p1 and md0p2 on that single raid disk
[06:52] <solarce> ProN00b: why?
[06:52] <hush`> wweasel: I'm with you - it's just that the chat text is moving faster than it normally does in here. :)
[06:52] <whitehorseNtiger> I might should try something like that.
[06:52] <FirstStrike> wweasel: you should have him set windows 98 globally and just change the local settings for utorrent to windows xp if that's what it runs best with.
[06:52] <whitehorseNtiger> solarce: why is ftp so hard to set up?
[06:52] <MrKeuner> hi, which one is the package to put "Decrypt" pgp encrypted file into the nautilus context menu? Encrypt is already there.
[06:52] <solarce> whitehorseNtiger: it's not really
[06:52] <ProN00b> solarce, why what ?
[06:52] <compotatoj> ProN00b: yeah.. i agree
[06:52] <solarce> whitehorseNtiger: I recommend vsftpd though
[06:53] <solarce> ProN00b: why not use a qt application?
[06:53] <wweasel> hush`: you want to pm?
[06:53] <hush`> yes
[06:53] <hush`> if thats alright with you
[06:53] <erikgz> local: md0 needs to be split
[06:53] <ProN00b> solarce, what do you mean ?
[06:53] <solarce> ProN00b: kdevelop
[06:53] <jman8888> Ubuntu should like cache wallpapers...I deleted my walpaper from my desktop.(When i got it i downloaded to desktop. Then deleted it and then my walpaper was blank...
[06:53] <local> erikgz, pls explain
[06:53] <erikgz> local: you have to remove the existing partition or resize it
[06:53] <ProN00b> solarce, because i don't like kde (and kdelibs neither)
[06:53] <whitehorseNtiger> solarce: ok.  I haven't tried that.  How do I remove proftpd completely or will it harm a vsftpd install.
[06:53] <typhoid> can any of you tell me the current standard gnu bbs?  I'm doing something larger but want something that will just work for a few months..
[06:53] <Guitarhero11> How do I find out where my mp3 player is mounted?
[06:53] <Jocko> Is this the right place to ask a question about Ubuntu+Evolution+Exchange OWA?
[06:53] <Guitarhero11> by usb
[06:54] <compotatoj> Guitarhero11: type: mount
[06:54] <local> ok erikgz i removed it..now what
[06:54] <FirstStrike> Guitarhero11: type mount in a terminal
[06:54] <solarce> ProN00b: for what reason?
[06:54] <hush`> wweasel: I sent you a PM.
[06:54] <solarce> whitehorseNtiger: you can use apt or synaptic to remove it
[06:54] <erikgz> local: removed ala fdisk?
[06:54] <solarce> whitehorseNtiger: apt-get remove proftd
[06:54] <erikgz> local: use fdisk /dev/md0
[06:54] <local> cfdisk mr erikgz
[06:54] <typhoid> err.. GPLnotgnu lol
[06:54] <wweasel> hush`: I am talking to you in PM.
[06:55] <hush`> I don't think I'm getting your PMs
[06:55] <solarce> wweasel: if both of you aren't registered and authenticated via nickserv it won't work
[06:55] <solarce> wweasel: freenode is cool like that
[06:55] <wweasel> solarce: well, that really sucks :P
[06:55] <Guitarhero11> thanks
[06:55] <Fastburn> solarce: compotatoj: It's in, wish me luck.
[06:55] <bhrobinson> compotatoj, only one thing left now
[06:55] <wweasel> hush`: alright.
[06:55] <ProN00b> solarce, for the same reason all people dislike kde
[06:55] <compotatoj> Fastburn: ok cool
[06:55] <local> erikgz, i am not much good w/ fdisk so i used cfdisk.. so now there are no partitions on md0 .. now what do i do
[06:55] <bhrobinson> compotatoj, and you might be able to help me on this
[06:55] <hush`> wweasel: I had that prob. earlier today too
[06:55] <solarce> Fastburn: good luck
[06:56] <compotatoj> Fastburn: sudo mount -a
[06:56] <wweasel> hush`: under the Drives tab, choose Autodetect
[06:56] <hush`> k
[06:56] <whitehorseNtiger> solarce: got an error, have to stop the process first
[06:56] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: ok.. what
[06:56] <solarce> ProN00b: because you take yourselves too seriously, it's a widget set
[06:56] <bhrobinson> compotatoj, the ATI is showing the same on both the DVI and the VGA
[06:56] <wweasel> hush`: that's all you need for now. Hit OK to save those settings
[06:56] <erikgz> local: (m for help) :)
[06:56] <solarce> whitehorseNtiger: odd apt didn't do it
[06:56] <solarce> whitehorseNtiger: oh well
[06:56] <ProN00b> compotatoj, got any better idea how to get glade integrated in an ide ?
[06:56] <hush`> k now what
[06:56] <erikgz> list (l) to see what's theree
[06:56] <erikgz> delete if need be (d)
[06:56] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: can you pastebin your xorg.conf file?
[06:56] <bhrobinson> yeah...
[06:56] <erikgz> and add new (n) if you want
[06:57] <hush`> wweasel: now what
[06:57] <whitehorseNtiger> solarce: it tried, but couldn't
[06:57] <wweasel> well, now you're ready to open uTorrent. open up a terminal and type 'wine /path/to/file/uTorrent.exe'
[06:57] <dravas> on the Alternative Ubuntu CD does it let you install the system without booting the live session?
[06:57] <compotatoj> ProN00b: run visual studio under wine :)
[06:57] <ProN00b> compotatoj, zomg
[06:57] <solarce> compotatoj: haha
[06:57] <wweasel> hush`: sorry, didn't append your name to that. look up. I'll repeat it for you if you like.
[06:57] <jman8888> Why wont natailus connect to my server with ssh. I tried using my browser and my server showed up...
[06:57] <hush`> got it
[06:57] <erikgz> local: making sense?
[06:57] <wweasel> hush`: if it works, you'll probably want to add a shortcut to your Applications menu.
[06:58] <solarce> ProN00b: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_integrated_development_environments#Free_Linux.2FUnix_IDEs
[06:58] <local> erikgz, ok.. now i have md0p1 and md0p2 in fdisk.. they show ok with "p"
[06:58] <dravas> on the Alternative Ubuntu CD does it let you install the system without booting the live session?
[06:58] <erikgz> local: you have to make a new partition that isn't the same size as the whole thing
[06:58] <compotatoj> dravas: probably but i'm not sure
[06:58] <erikgz> then you want to write the changes to disk
[06:58] <local> erikgz, done!
[06:58] <whitehorseNtiger> solarce: i usually run my computer as a user, without sudo power.  How can I allow my user to use some apps?
[06:58] <bhrobinson> compotatoj, here it is http://pastebin.ca/141920
[06:58] <local> erikgz, still dont show in /dev
[06:58] <erikgz> local: and in /dev/?
[06:58] <erikgz> hmm
[06:58] <erikgz> udev restart?
[06:58] <local> hmm how
[06:58] <naa> I can't seem to install easyubuntu, it's telling me to fix broken packages
[06:58] <erikgz> /etc/init.d/udev restart
[06:58] <erikgz> (sudo ...)
[06:59] <hush`> wweasel: when i did that wine path to utorrent.exe thing - it made my screen turn black
[06:59] <wweasel> naa: I've had that problem before.
[06:59] <bhrobinson> compotatoj, it is beastly. I have not cleaned variable names yet
[06:59] <naa> any way to fix it?
[06:59] <local> erikgz, done.. still doesnt show the p1 and p2 of md0 in /dev
[06:59] <wweasel> hush`: lol, you need to replace /path/to/uTorrent.exe with the actual path to your file. sorry
[06:59] <solarce> naa: nope, I suggest you return and demand a refund
[06:59] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: ok give me a minute
[06:59] <hush`> wweasel: no i did
[06:59] <naa> oh,okay
[06:59] <naa> I'll get right on that, solarce
[06:59] <whitehorseNtiger> solarce:  example...I am running 64bit and in my sudo power login I installed the 32bit mplayer and browser plugin.  works fine I think, but my normal user can't use it.  How would I allow that?
[07:00] <wweasel> hush`: Nothing happened? Just a black terminal?
[07:00] <hush`> wweasel: it launched utorrent.exe - but it made my screen turn black
[07:00] <rixth> What is the max filename length on ext3?
[07:00] <naa> but really
[07:00] <Fastburn> solarce: I see it now, but it wont let me move anything onto it.
[07:00] <naa> :(
[07:00] <erikgz> local: well, then we'd be at the same place
[07:00] <wweasel> naa: I've had that problem before
[07:00] <compotatoj> rixth: i think its really long
[07:00] <local> erikgz, huh?
[07:00] <wweasel> naa: The problem was a specific thing under the Internet options
[07:00] <rixth> compotatoj, say, more than 300 characters?
[07:00] <hush`> wweasel: i think an error popped up in utorrent but i cant read it.. its just a white box.. and when i click on it it turns my screen black again
[07:00] <solarce> whitehorseNtiger: so you have created an additional user that isn't a member of wheel, hmm
[07:01] <compotatoj> rixth: try it
[07:01] <wweasel> hush`: I haven't seen that problem before
[07:01] <erikgz> my understanding of why things show up in udev is usually "it just works, except when you want to play with udev configuration files"
[07:01] <hush`> hmm
[07:01] <naa> alright
[07:01] <hush`> wweasel: any ideas on what i can do
[07:01] <solarce> naa: don't use it :) that's my advice, just do things manually, it's good practice and the ubuntu wiki spells it all out
[07:01] <whitehorseNtiger> solarce:  yeah.
[07:01] <erikgz> i can't help you any more.  i assume you've rebooted
[07:01] <compotatoj> hush`: its 255
[07:01] <erikgz> ?
[07:01] <solarce> whitehorseNtiger: add that user with visudo?
[07:01] <wweasel> naa: You can do all of the ones except that specific one that is causing the problem. do that one manually
[07:01] <compotatoj> rixth: its 255*
[07:01] <naa> ergh
[07:01] <naa> I'll go see how to do it then
[07:01] <Fastburn> compotatoj: solarce: You guys got it right, I can see it now, and read from it. I however cant copy anything over. Gives me no permission error
[07:01] <hush`> compotatoj: 255 ?
[07:02] <rixth> Hmm, i thought that 255 limit was only ntfs. Thanks.
[07:02] <wweasel> naa: Well, do all the stuff you want that's not in Internet.
[07:02] <solarce> Fastburn: what does it do?
[07:02] <compotatoj> rixth: i looked it up on wikipedia
[07:02] <local> erikgz, yes.. just rebooted again!
[07:02] <wweasel> naa: Then do all the Internet ones one by one.
[07:02] <Elda> actually, night all xD
[07:02] <wweasel> naa: whichever one fails that you want, do it manually
[07:02] <hush`> wweasel: should i send you my terminal
[07:02] <whitehorseNtiger> solarce: I just want to add the application to be usable for the other users.  I don't want to give the users sudo ability, which I think I can do with the GUI in ubuntu quite easily.  I don't know what visudo is.
[07:02] <local> erikgz, thanks .. night
[07:03] <Fastburn> Solarce: It appears, I can read (listening to mp3 on it) but i'm trying to move .mov file onto it to make sure it isn't corrupted (or if my player is out of sync), and it gives me "You dont have permissions to write"
[07:03] <wweasel> hush`: I know a specific version of wine is incompatible with uTorrent. Could you tell me what version of wine you are using?
[07:03] <red|rain> Hi ^_^
[07:03] <Lard-O-Lad> is there something like RealPlayer Alternative for linux?
[07:03] <hush`> wweasel: how do I find out
[07:03] <wweasel> hush`: Use Synaptic.
[07:03] <solarce> Lard-O-Lad: totem or mplayer should handle real media
[07:03] <solarce> Fastburn: ls -la /mnt
[07:03] <wweasel> hush`: System > Administartion > Synaptic Package Manager
[07:04] <red|rain> im having a problem when I boot into my laptop, im seeing "brub >" when I turn on the computer, is there a way to still boot in?
[07:04] <solarce> whitehorseNtiger: not too sure on this one
[07:04] <robert_> anybody- help? (k)ubuntu won't progress past starting the kernel event manager - I had a power surge the other day, and now it won't start. do note, that I recently installed/configured my system for use with ldap- if that makes any difference :/
[07:04] <whitehorseNtiger> solarce: k thanks
[07:04] <Fastburn> solarce: drwxr-xr-x  3 root root  72 2006-08-20 23:32 .
[07:04] <Fastburn> drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 688 2006-08-20 20:34 ..
[07:04] <Fastburn> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 2006-08-20 23:32 media
[07:04] <whitehorseNtiger> solarce what was the name of that ftp program you use?
[07:04] <Wizardling> Grandma and Grandpa were watching a TV evangelist. When he said all who wanted to be healed should go to their television set, place one hand on the TV, and their other hand on the body part they want healed,
[07:05] <solarce> whitehorseNtiger: vsftpd
[07:05] <Wizardling> Grandma hobbled to the set, placed one hand on the TV and the other on her arthritic shoulder. Grandpa got up, placed one hand on the set and the other on his crotch.
[07:05] <FirstStrike> !pastebin > Fastburn
[07:05] <whitehorseNtiger> solarce: thanks
[07:05] <Wizardling> Grandma scowled. "What are you doing, you old coot? He said 'heal the sick,' not 'raise the dead!'"
[07:05] <Wizardling> LOL
[07:05] <DanaG> Argh, somehow I screwed up the permission son my home dir.
[07:05] <solarce> Wizardling: AMEN!
[07:05] <jrattner1> QUESTION: Anyone here successfully sync a Treo 650 or Treo 700p in Dapper?
[07:05] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: look at your pms i sent you
[07:05] <solarce> jrattner1: ANSWER: maybe.
[07:05] <DanaG> Does anyone know what they're SUPPOSED to be set to (in chmod 777 format)?
[07:06] <solarce> Fastburn: you've got permissions issues :)
[07:06] <jrattner1> solarce, heheh what do you mean maybe?
[07:06] <hush`> wweasel: version 0.9.19
[07:06] <the_hammer> hey all mepis user here anyone know how to find folders installed from wine programs?
[07:06] <erikgz> okay, pop quiz;  i stop my logging services, cron services, and yet still have this process which WRITES to the hard drive 80 blocks EXACTLY every 5 seconds
[07:06] <bhrobinson> compotatoj, I did not get any from you
[07:06] <solarce> jrattner1: it could be
[07:06] <erikgz> thus preventing my disk from sleeping, killing my battery, etc.
[07:06] <Fastburn> solarce, I figured that, how do I fix it =)
[07:06] <erikgz> what process could this be/?
[07:06] <jrattner1> solarce, so have you had success syncing either of those devices in dapper?
[07:06] <solarce> Fastburn: chmod
[07:06] <the_hammer> id ask in mepis but they banned me for tellin off some punk that was bad mouthin me
[07:06] <wweasel> hush`: you installed it by adding a repository to your sources.list?
[07:06] <hush`> yes
[07:06] <solarce> jrattner1: I own neither, but if you were willing to donate one... :D
[07:07] <hush`> wweasel: yes
[07:07] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: you can't see my messages
[07:07] <Lard-O-Lad> solarce: It is a streaming rm file, and firefox doesnt like it.  I will get the file from the source and run it through totem though...
[07:07] <erikgz> i'm going to keep asking
[07:07] <wweasel> hush`: THis is odd.
[07:07] <shaigirl67> Hi everyone
[07:07] <solarce> Lard-O-Lad: that will probably work
[07:07] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: ok i don't think you should be doing it in Section "ServerLayout"
[07:07] <bhrobinson> compototatoj, no... can you see mine?
[07:07] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: i can see yours
[07:07] <DanaG> ...anyone?
[07:07] <Jocko> Has anyone seen evolution just display "Loading" under an exchange account name? It never loads the folders.
[07:07] <solarce> Fastburn: so, sudo chmod 770 /mnt/media
[07:07] <hush`> wweasel: I wish linux had remote assistance, so that you could fix it for me....
[07:08] <the_hammer> anyone help me out or what?
[07:08] <solarce> Fastburn: sudo chgrp -R users /mnt/media
[07:08] <wweasel> hush`: I wish I could help, but I haven't seen that problem and I am not sure how to diagnose it.
[07:08] <Fastburn> solarce: even if it's /media/media?
[07:08] <wweasel> hush`: It actually does have remote assistance.
[07:08] <hush`> wweasel: can we do that
[07:08] <DanaG> No, you have to put the user,gid=users option in fstab.
[07:08] <robert_> can anybody help me?
[07:08] <DanaG> Right?
[07:08] <the_hammer> cna anyone pls help me?
[07:08] <wweasel> hush`: No, we'd need to install it, and I don't know how to fix this problem anyways
[07:08] <the_hammer> can*
[07:08] <solarce> Fastburn: adjust for your path ;)
[07:09] <hush`> wweasel: do u know who would
[07:09] <solarce> the_hammer: you are beyond our help, sorry
[07:09] <solarce> the_hammer: call dr phil
[07:09] <the_hammer> this os is based off of ubuntu
[07:09] <wweasel> hush`: Ask in this channel. Sorry I can't be of more help.
[07:09] <hush`> wweasel: what about uninstalling and reinstalling
[07:09] <FirstStrike> DanaG: chmod 700
[07:09] <the_hammer> oh your funny ya should be a comidian
[07:10] <Fastburn> solarce: chmod worked, chgrp gave mass operation-not-permitted
[07:10] <solarce> the_hammer: where did you tell wine to use as the base for installed applications?
[07:10] <solarce> Fastburn: blah, probably because it's fat32
[07:10] <solarce> Fastburn: try it without the -R
[07:10] <DanaG> FirstStrike: Is that for the files inside, or just for the dir?
[07:10] <solarce> -R is recursive
[07:10] <the_hammer> im not sure all i did was apt-get install and then was told to open a term and wine and point to the file i want to install
[07:11] <wweasel> hush`: You can try that. Try a complete removal of Wine. You don't need to delete your uTorrent.exe file.
[07:11] <the_hammer> wine Desktop bla.exe
[07:11] <Fastburn> Solarce: Same, but with only one line. 'chgrp: changing group of `/media/media': Operation not permitted
[07:11] <Fastburn> '
[07:11] <solarce> I'm not up on the particulars of dealing with a fat32 partition under linux
[07:11] <the_hammer> in term i did this
[07:11] <Fastburn> Erm, BLeah, sorr.y
[07:11] <hush`> how do i remove wine.. just add/remove programs?
[07:11] <FirstStrike> DanaG: directory
[07:11] <wweasel> hush`: Use Synaptic
[07:11] <the_hammer> lol i only have linux not windows
[07:11] <wweasel> hush`: Right click on wine, "Mark For Complete Removal",  Apply
[07:12] <the_hammer> just trying to locate the folder of the prog so i can delete it its excursion
[07:12] <wweasel> hush`: Then I recommend you try following this tutorial http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191161
[07:12] <wweasel> hush`: That's what I did, and it worked perfectly for me.
[07:12] <hush`> wweasel: thanks man i really appreciate your help
[07:12] <stevewillson> hello
[07:12] <solarce> Fastburn: /dev/hda6 /media/stuff vfat rw,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[07:12] <TSP_X> Hello
[07:13] <hush`> wweasel: eventually I will learn how to use linux - with everybodys help its all slowly making more and more sense to me
[07:13] <solarce> Fastburn: adjust for your path, behold the power of google
[07:13] <wweasel> hush`: np at all. I remember my first few days. I spent all of my first few days trying to get wireless to work :P
[07:13] <stevewillson> am I able to get help installing xemacs here?
[07:13] <Fastburn> Solarce: back to etc?
[07:13] <solarce> stevewillson: yes
[07:13] <solarce> Fastburn: ding ding!
[07:13] <DanaG> Okay, now my gnome panel is b0rked.
[07:13] <MrKeuner> I have Encrypt in the nautilus context menu, however when I right click on a.pgp file I do not get Decrypt option in the context menu. What should I do?
[07:13] <DanaG> How do I get it to the ubuntu default?
[07:13] <solarce> stevewillson: how can I help a fellow emacs user?
[07:13] <TSP_X> Can someone please tell me how can i add amirror as a repo?
[07:13] <wweasel> hush`: Once you have everything set up, it works like a charm. My problem is I'm a tinkerer :P
[07:14] <hush`> tinker?
[07:14] <the_hammer> ahh well ty anyway at least ya answered thats good enough
[07:14] <MrKeuner> !help
[07:14] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:14] <hush`> I love my install of utorrent in Windows. utorrent is the best
[07:14] <the_hammer> take care
[07:14] <stevewillson> ok, I run the ./configure file in the directory I decompressed the xemacs file to and it gives me a 'panic' message
[07:14] <FirstStrike> DanaG: Define borked.
[07:14] <TSP_X> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nas/ <---i need tod ownloadsmenu debs from here
[07:14] <Lard-O-Lad> wine+utorrent makes me happy
[07:14] <wweasel> hush`: Agreed 100%. I couldn't take using Azureus in Linux.
[07:15] <TSP_X> i need to download*
[07:15] <solarce> stevewillson: any reason you are not installing it from apt?
[07:15] <hush`> azureus is a load of crap system hog.
[07:15] <wweasel> Lard-O-Lad: Me too. If only it didn't look so ugly, it would be perfect.
[07:15] <Lard-O-Lad> ;)
[07:15] <stevewillson> how do I get it from apt?
[07:15] <FirstStrike> maybe it's because i have 2 gb of ram, but it doesn't bother me in the slightest.
[07:15] <DanaG> Borked, as in, both panels are at the top, and don't have anything on them/
[07:15] <benx213> azureus runs fine on my system, after upgrading to beta
[07:15] <DanaG> Or have stuff, but random.
[07:15] <Fastburn> Solarce: what was the file again? >> Fstab or something?
[07:15] <stevewillson> I was trying to build it from source
[07:15] <solarce> Fastburn: /etc/fstab
[07:15] <stevewillson> but I'll try to get it there
[07:15] <wweasel> FirstStrike: Let's not get into the uTorrent Azureus debate. It's like Gnome/KDE: It never ends well.
[07:15] <FirstStrike> benx213: b48?
[07:15] <FirstStrike> lol true
[07:15] <DanaG> I'm happy to reset essentially anything about my user, EXCEPT my firefox and thunderbird profiles.
[07:15] <TSP_X> Any chance that someone can help me?
[07:16] <hush`> I like uTorrent too much to want to try anything else.. it's perfect in every way No problems whatsoever with it
[07:16] <benx213> b80
[07:16] <DanaG> Except no timed rotation of seeds...
[07:16] <solarce> stevewillson:  I suspect you'll need to enable the universe repository
[07:16] <FirstStrike> TSP_X: i don't see what the problem is?
[07:16] <FirstStrike> click the file..save to disk?
[07:16] <wweasel> hush`: You'll find that it will look ugly in Linux. But fully functional.
[07:16] <stevewillson> ok
[07:16] <benx213> does utorrent run perfectly under wine?
[07:16] <stevewillson> it's only showing emacs
[07:16] <TSP_X> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nas/ i need to add this as a repo
[07:16] <wweasel> benx213: Yes
[07:16] <stevewillson> I'm looking for xemacs
[07:16] <TSP_X> because there i found all the packs i need
[07:17] <stevewillson> how do I enable the universe repository?
[07:17] <solarce> stevewillson: you'll need to add the Universe repository and install the 'xemacs21' package
[07:17] <Fastburn> Solarce: Thank you a ton, I'll give it another restart.
[07:17] <hush`> if I try Azureus will it let me seed all the torrents from my windows HDD ?
[07:17] <solarce> stevewillson: 32mb of files downloaded later it will be there :D
[07:17] <solarce> Fastburn: no problem
[07:17] <FirstStrike> i had to do some magic dancing and compile the 2.6.17.8 kernel for my system but saga of ryzom runs perfectly sound and all now :P
[07:17] <Corporal_Dirge> I got Azureus running perfectly. Took a little work since the synaptic package is borked. But manually installing makes it run perfectly.
[07:17] <solarce> Fastburn: I am merely a conduit for google
[07:17] <FirstStrike> but i doubt anyone here plays it. WoW whores :>
[07:17] <solarce> FirstStrike: whoresofwarcraft.com
[07:18] <TSP_X>  sudo gedit /etc/apt/souces.list
[07:18] <TSP_X> stewewillson
[07:18] <Lard-O-Lad> there is a good guide to installing azureus on ubuntuguide.org
[07:18] <benx213> hush`, i dont see why not
[07:18] <FirstStrike> sudo aptitude install azureus
[07:18] <stevewillson> ok
[07:18] <TSP_X> delte this "#" at the start og the universe repos
[07:18] <stevewillson> thanks
[07:18] <hush`> how do i tell it where to look for those torrents
[07:18] <wweasel> hush`: I'm sure, but you'd have to recollect the .torrent files I think.
[07:18] <Corporal_Dirge> Lard-O-Lad, the forums version isn't the working way to install it.
[07:18] <TSP_X> delete*
[07:18] <FirstStrike> solarce: nice
[07:18] <cynical> solarce: lol thanks for that you made my night
[07:18] <solarce> haha
[07:18] <solarce> np
[07:18] <benx213> ive had problems with azureus error windows staying up, but upgrading to beta takes care of that
[07:19] <Pupeno> How can I see the state of the battery of my notebook in the command line ?
[07:19] <wweasel> hush`: I'd recommend using uTorrent. I even set mine up to share a config directory with my Windows uTorrent (a bit more complicated)
[07:19] <hush`> yes
[07:19] <Lard-O-Lad> Corporal_Dirge, not sure what you mean it worked fine for me?
[07:19] <wweasel> hush`: You can import the config files from your Windows partition
[07:19] <TSP_X> hey please help
[07:19] <solarce> you guys and you're dual booting
[07:19] <hush`> damnit i wish it would work
[07:19] <Corporal_Dirge> Lard-O-Lad, They tell you to install from synaptic right?
[07:19] <hush`> fixing to try it alla gain wweasel
[07:19] <solarce> I should talk, I'm setting up ubuntu and osx to dual boot :>
[07:19] <cynical> sadly games are important to me, or I'd ditch windows
[07:19] <Lard-O-Lad> pretty sure they use apt-get
[07:20] <benx213> solarce, already got mine set up
[07:20] <benx213> osx86?
[07:20] <wweasel> hush`: Did you complete removal Wine, then try from the beginning of that tutorial?
[07:20] <solarce> benx213: no, ibook
[07:20] <benx213> ah
[07:20] <naa> ARGH
[07:20] <hush`> yes but whats the CTRL+ALT DEL equivalent in Linux?
[07:20] <FirstStrike> all the games i play work on linux :>
[07:20] <naa> what am I supposed to be doing
[07:20] <hush`> i cant get that instance of Wine and uTorrent to close ?
[07:20] <solarce> naa: dancing
[07:20] <solarce> naa: dance monkey dance!
[07:21] <naa> does sudo dpkg --configure -a fix broken packages?
[07:21] <Lard-O-Lad> quarters*
[07:21] <FirstStrike> hush`: you can map the system monitor to control + alt + delete if you want
[07:21] <Corporal_Dirge> Lard-O-Lad, That's the borked version. You need to manually install the beta then load azureus as root in order to install the swt library, and then you still need to switch to sun java for the right tools, it's just easier to manually install.
[07:21] <cynical> hush`: go to a prompt and type 'top' then 'sudo kill' followed by the programs PID
[07:21] <solarce> Lard-O-Lad: you won't get good luck doing that
[07:21] <wweasel> hush`: System > Administration > System Monitor
[07:21] <FirstStrike> hush`: i'm pretty sure by default it's control + alt + escape
[07:21] <naa> hey, you guys pushed me >:(
[07:21] <naa> does sudo dpkg --configure -a fix broken packages?*
[07:21] <wweasel> hush`: You can also do what cynical said. His is the command line version, mine is the GUI.
[07:21] <solarce> naa: dpkg-reconfigure
[07:21] <cynical> hush`: I wish you could kill a process graphically, but then again most programs arent unstable in linux
[07:21] <wweasel> FirstStrike: Nope, it's not CtrlAltEscape
[07:21] <DanaG> Argh, I think I'll end up having to delete and recreate my user
[07:22] <wweasel> cynical: you can. Use the System Monitor.
[07:22] <solarce> DanaG: why?
[07:22] <Lard-O-Lad> Corporal_Dirge, huh strange; oh well, heh, i'd stick with utorrent anyways :)
[07:22] <TSP_X> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nas/ <---how can i add this mirror like a repo?
[07:22] <Corporal_Dirge> Lard-O-Lad, You need wine for it to work right?
[07:22] <cynical> wweasel: oh great I didnt know it was there, thanks lol
[07:22] <naa> erm
[07:22] <naa> what if you don't know what package is broken?
[07:22] <Lard-O-Lad> Corporal_Dirge, yeah, but its worth it
[07:22] <Lard-O-Lad> Corporal_Dirge, and i tend to use wine a alot
[07:22] <DanaG> Well, my profile is completely fuXX0red. (excuse the "leetspeek"
[07:23] <solarce> naa: how do you know one is then?
[07:23] <naa> oh wait
[07:23] <naa> I got it
[07:23] <Corporal_Dirge> Lard-O-Lad, Well, I like the Azureus plugins. RSS feeder etc.
[07:23] <solarce> DanaG: be more specific
[07:23] <hush`> wweasel: got it - now off to follow that tutorial you linked me to
[07:23] <DanaG> My panel is completely empty.
[07:23] <naa> I guess I had to do -a
[07:23] <FirstStrike> DanaG: what did you do in the first place?
[07:23] <Flannel> lastlog -clear
[07:23] <DanaG> I want to reset my user back to the defaults I got at the first place.
[07:23] <DanaG> I don't remember what I did.
[07:23] <TSP_X> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nas/ <---how can i add this mirror like a repo
[07:23] <Lard-O-Lad> Corporal_Dirge, yea, i used to be a huge azureus fan, but its such a resource hog... (at least the old version was)
 naa: how do you know one is then?  <-- easyubuntu said that it wouldn't install because there were broken packages
[07:23] <wweasel> hush`: Make sure you choose Complete Removal in synaptic. That will remove config files too.
[07:23] <DanaG> (this is Edgy, by the way.  Root stuff is fine, but somehow I broke my user)
[07:23] <FirstStrike> >_>
[07:23] <zithowa> what's an easy way to remove all the files in a directly recursively that match a certain expression?
[07:24] <FirstStrike> oh..edgy
[07:24] <Madpilot> DanaG, #ubuntu+1 for Edgy, please
[07:24] <wweasel> hush`: And you'll probably be skipping some steps in the tutorial that you'll have already done.
[07:24] <Corporal_Dirge> Lard-O-Lad, I use the CVS versions, cutting edge updates. Plus a voting system is built into Azureus and we can tell them what features we want them to work on.
[07:24] <DanaG> Well, I can't imagine it'd be all that different on the user side.
[07:24] <FirstStrike> edgy is still in experimental stages and isn't ready for the stable desktop environment yet
[07:24] <solarce> DanaG: bleed I say! that's what happens when ou live on the edge
[07:24] <DanaG> I just need to figure out where to find the default settings.
[07:24] <Flannel> DanaG: but theymight know about the bug/fixes/etc
[07:25] <Corporal_Dirge> Lard-O-Lad, I think the memory managment won several months back.
[07:25] <solarce> naa: I see you are developing your problem solving skills
[07:25] <benx213> anyone know of a way to sync a video ipod with album art using amarok?
[07:25] <FirstStrike> many things are still broken in edgy DanaG
[07:25] <solarce> naa: <darth vader> impressive </darth vader>
[07:25] <Corporal_Dirge> How can I tell how much memory Azureus is taking in Ubuntu?
[07:25] <evilgeek> run a top
[07:25] <FirstStrike> Corporal_Dirge: type top in a terminal
[07:25] <Madpilot> DanaG, in various dot files in your user directory, I assume...
[07:25] <solarce> evilgeek: I prefer a draedel
[07:26] <TSP_X> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nas/ <---how can i add this mirror like a repository
[07:26] <swarm> hi
[07:26] <swarm> when i run the ati install script, it works after first reboot
[07:26] <Madpilot> TSP_X, that will already be in your sources, it's part of the Main repo
[07:26] <swarm> then after second reboot, it stops
[07:26] <Flannel> TSP_X: http://archive.ubuntu.com is the repository
[07:26] <jrattner1> QUESTION: How do i Create a virtual serial port? like for bluetooth
[07:26] <TSP_X> wht i can't download the pack there via apt
[07:27] <TSP_X> i have that one
[07:27] <Madpilot> TSP_X, there's a whole pile of .deb packs on that page, they should all be available thru Synaptic...
[07:27] <Flannel> TSP_X: what are you trying to download?  And, will you pastebin your sources?
[07:27] <TSP_X> but if i do apt-get install libaudio-dev_1.7-3ubuntu3_i386.deb for example
[07:27] <Gun-Nut> will 64bit os work better then the 32?
[07:27] <TSP_X> says that there is no pack and i can see it
[07:27] <Madpilot> TSP_X, you don't install like that...
[07:27] <solarce> TSP_X: did you enable universe and multiverse?
[07:28] <TSP_X> yes
[07:28] <FirstStrike> Gun-Nut: that's up in the air. a lot of software isn't compatible with 64 bit yet so you end up running it in 32 bit mode anyway.
[07:28] <Flannel> TSP_X: no .deb  and you need the package name, libaudio-dev is probably the package name
[07:28] <Madpilot> TSP_X, in Synaptic, search for libaudio, that should find it...
[07:28] <lostsync_> tsw, i think you just need to do sudo apt-get libaudio-dev
[07:28] <cobrat> has anyone here attempted to run boinc on a ppc ubuntu installation?
[07:28] <lostsync_> TSP_X, ***
[07:28] <Flannel> TSP_X: sudo apt-get install libaudio-dev
[07:28] <Gun-Nut> Hmm well I can't seem to get the 32bit ubuntu working :( (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240517)
[07:28] <TSP_X> yes i know
[07:29] <TSP_X> sorry for the typo
[07:29] <FirstStrike> try the alternative iso
[07:29] <TSP_X> but this pack wont download via apt
[07:29] <selinuxium> Hi all, I have two ethernet card in my PC, I want to set one up as a private network for vmware and the other as a gateway, how do I do this?
[07:29] <solarce> well it's been fun, but I'm off to bed
[07:29] <Gun-Nut> I've also tried that It fails at the 4 stage i think, the reading the CD
[07:29] <Bonez56> hi, i have ubuntu running in 1280x768 with a 17" LCD and NVidia GeForce card, but now on the right hand side of my screen it goes all fuzzy, and the main picture is squashed up on the left. it works fine in other resolutions such as 1024x786. anyone seen this before?
[07:29] <Madpilot> TSP_X, the pack names are not the same as the .deb file names...
[07:29] <Flannel> TSP_X: what command are you using?
[07:29] <TSP_X> libqt3-mt-dev
[07:29] <Corporal_Dirge> Wow, Azureus hardly takes any memory in Ubuntu. Sweet!
[07:29] <TSP_X> sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev
[07:29] <crofty> i am browsing in nautilus and the directory i am looking at has a orange lock on the top right corner , what does that mean? how do I remove it?
[07:30] <TSP_X> the pack is in the mirror if i browse with firefox
[07:30] <FirstStrike> crofty: it means that file/directory is owned by root
[07:30] <Flannel> TSP_X: Have you updated? sudo apt-get update?
[07:30] <Madpilot> TSP_X, so the package has a slightly different name from it's .deb file - use Synaptic's search button...
[07:30] <TSP_X> yes every time i change something in sources.list
[07:30] <FirstStrike> you can access/edit the file/directory by using the sudo command
[07:30] <Flannel> TSP_X: can you pastebin your sources.list?
[07:31] <TSP_X> i am using synaptic
[07:31] <rapier> hi, i'm trying to setup a router/firewall for my home network and i need the interface eth1 to obtain an IP automatically from my ISP but it always seems to get a static one, what's going wrong?
[07:31] <DanaG> Argh, even though root's profile is set up correctly, copying it over mine does not change mine.
[07:31] <Madpilot> crofty, right-click on it, choose Properties, look at the permissions tab
[07:31] <Madpilot> DanaG, seriously, #ubuntu+1 for Edgy issues
[07:31] <TSP_X> when i  found libqt3-mt-dev says that xlibmesa-gl-dev is not int he repo...
[07:31] <Lard-O-Lad> dont java apps preform better in linux as compared to windows?
[07:31] <Flannel> TSP_X: can you pastebin your sources.list?
[07:32] <crofty> its says drwxr--r--
[07:32] <TSP_X> here?
[07:32] <Flannel> TSP_X: pastebin
[07:32] <Flannel> !paste
[07:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:32] <DanaG> Okay.
[07:32] <Madpilot> crofty, who is listed as owner?
[07:32] <Corporal_Dirge> Lard-O-Lad, I dunno, I'm still using Sun's java rather than the OSS version since I do a lot of java programming.
[07:32] <swarm> xgl is a pain to get running
[07:32] <crofty> It telling me I am not the owner
[07:32] <benx213> swarm, whats the problem
[07:32] <swarm> what file is it that i can read to see what went wrong when xwin doesn't start?
[07:32] <Bonez56> hi, i have ubuntu running in 1280x768 with a 17" LCD and NVidia GeForce card, but now on the right hand side of my screen it goes all fuzzy, and the main picture is squashed up on the left. it works fine in other resolutions such as 1024x786. anyone seen this before?
[07:33] <swarm> benx213, it just goes to gray crosshatch screen with x pointer
[07:33] <selinuxium> Bonez56: Wait a little longer before reposting please! :)
[07:33] <benx213> what guide did you follow
[07:33] <Madpilot> crofty, which directory is this?
[07:33] <TSP_X> i am on that Flannel
[07:33] <swarm> i followed the wiki one'
[07:33] <crofty> its a profile directory for thunderbird to use
[07:33] <TSP_X> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21260
[07:33] <Flannel> swarm: #ubuntu-xgl
[07:33] <TSP_X> there is
[07:33] <benx213> and what hardware do you have?
[07:33] <swarm> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[07:34] <crofty> i have copied ot from a 2nd hard drive
[07:34] <swarm> ati x300
[07:34] <Gun-Nut> xubuntu diffrent to ubuntu?
[07:34] <FirstStrike> hmm
[07:34] <TSP_X> i just add kde repos because i i trying to get kdelibs4-dev and all the depen's
[07:34] <FirstStrike> that guide worked perfect for me swarm
[07:34] <FirstStrike> which method did you use?
[07:34] <Madpilot> crofty, stuff copied from elsewhere sometimes arrives with the wrong ownership/permissions
[07:34] <wweasel> hush`: How's it going?
[07:34] <swarm> a
[07:35] <Flannel> TSP_X: you're right, xlibmesa-gl-dev isn't available, install libgl-dev instead
[07:35] <benx213> swarm, ive used this guide to setup xgl on a few computers. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225141&highlight=xgl+nvidia its worked perfectly for me
[07:35] <crofty> ic
[07:35] <hush`> wweasel: going slowly lol
[07:35] <Madpilot> TSP_X, that's a badly messed up sources.list. Why did you inflict Automatix on yourself?
[07:35] <selinuxium> Gun-Nut: Xubuntu uses a Xfce instead of Gnome, it is a lighter weight window manager for older machines.
[07:35] <hush`> wweasel: keeping fingers crossed
[07:35] <benx213> swarm, sorry but im not really fimiliar with ati cards
[07:35] <TSP_X> becau i am trying to get those pack
[07:35] <crofty> will i need to do chmod on it to make me the owner
[07:35] <TSP_X> i test all the repos around
[07:35] <hush`> wweasel: what version of wine do you use
[07:35] <crofty> i do not know how you do that sorry
[07:35] <Flannel> Madpilot: ah, is that the problem?  Oh, right.  I see ;)
[07:35] <naa> So yeah
[07:35] <naa> check this out
[07:35] <TSP_X> i don't use automatix
[07:35] <naa> I walk into this room
[07:35] <naa> and then
[07:35] <TSP_X> but i need those pack
[07:36] <Flannel> naa: please use your enter key less often
[07:36] <Madpilot> TSP_X, randomly adding repositroies is a good way to mess up your install...
[07:36] <Gun-Nut> what is Ubuntu Breezy ?
[07:36] <wweasel> hush`: That's alright. Remember I said I have been using Ubuntu for 5 months, and I said I installed uTorrent yesterday? That's cause I took 5 months to get around to installing a torrent program :P
[07:36] <Madpilot> Gun-Nut, the previous release of Ubuntu
[07:36] <Flannel> Gun-Nut: it's 5.10 - the previous version
[07:36] <rjian> Hello can anyone help me about signing code of conduct?
[07:36] <wweasel> hush`: It was the same as yours, x.x.19
[07:36] <TSP_X> I know but i need to learn how to compile in ubuntu
[07:36] <TSP_X> flannel is not there that pack
[07:36] <Madpilot> TSP_X, you don't need random repos to compile with
[07:36] <Flannel> wweasel: there are bittorrent clients already installed
[07:37] <rapier> how can i change my network interface to dynamically obtain an IP via dhcp instead of always having the same IP?
[07:37] <selinuxium> Gun-Nut: Breezy is an older version of Ubuntu. The latest version is Dapper, next will be Edgy...
[07:37] <wweasel> Flannel: I know. I mean a decent one :P
[07:37] <Flannel> TSP_X: yes it is.
[07:37] <TSP_X> i know but how i can get all thr depnde's to start building a pack?
[07:37] <Flannel> TSP_X: apt-get build-dep
[07:37] <benx213> rapier, system->administration->networking
[07:38] <rjian> Madpilot: can u help me about the sign of ubuntu code of conduct?
[07:38] <rapier> benx213 i'm using the server version, i don't have an guis.
[07:38] <Corporal_Dirge> rapier, By default it should be dynamic, usually the DHCP just keeps giving you the same IP
[07:38] <swarm> hmm
[07:38] <selinuxium> rapier: System/admin/networking  choose eth?
[07:38] <swarm> no idea if the method b worked
[07:38] <selinuxium> rapier: doh, use ifconfig
[07:38] <TSP_X> i am searching for libgl-dev i didn't know that that is the name
[07:38] <Madpilot> rjian, have you created a GPG key for yourself yet?
[07:38] <swarm> my glxgears is very slow right now. grr
[07:38] <crofty> How do i make myself the owner of that directory then please?
[07:38] <robert_> anybody? help?
[07:38] <rapier> yeah, i'm a little unclear on what i need to do
[07:39] <swarm> it's not using the proper ati driver
[07:39] <rapier> every time i run dhclient eth1 it gets a 192.168.1.x address instead of an ip assigned by my isp
[07:39] <rjian> Madpilot: Yah.. wen i paste the sign code of conduct is says " Public keys missing" something like that...
[07:39] <Flannel> rapier: you have a home router?
[07:39] <rapier> no, just a cable modem
[07:39] <Madpilot> rjian, you need to upload your public key to a keyserver
[07:40] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell rjian about gpg
[07:40] <Flannel> rapier: does your cable modem have a gateway built in?
[07:40] <rjian> yup ive already send it..
[07:40] <rapier> Flannel: no
[07:40] <hush`> wweasel: i think i might need an older version of wine - i reinstalled and it is still giving me full black screens
[07:40] <thompa> hello, Is there some kind of way to set alarm in gnome to play file
[07:40] <wweasel> no, that version of wine should work perfectly.
[07:41] <wweasel> this copy of uTorrent.exe...it is the standalone exectuable, not the installer
[07:41] <FirstStrike> glxgears on xgl runs about twice as fast as it does on X );
[07:41] <NickGarvey> thompa: theres a program.. kalarm.. its for kde but should work on gnome (maybe gnome has its own version of it)
[07:41] <FirstStrike> if only games supported it
[07:41] <NickGarvey> FirstStrike: wow, games on xgl would be crazy
[07:41] <elekis> hi,
[07:41] <NickGarvey> hello
[07:41] <Lard-O-Lad> salutations
[07:41] <Madpilot> rjian, then it should be working... I'm not an expert, but I managed to get the CoC signed
[07:41] <ozzloy> what's a good webcam for linux?
[07:41] <rapier> i have a dhcpd server running also - to give IPs to clients on my local network, could that be interfering with the other network card?
[07:42] <janubuntu> BlueEagle are you here?
[07:42] <swarm> how do i know fo the xgl worked?
[07:42] <swarm> whats thed ifference?
[07:42] <Flannel> swarm: #ubuntu-xgl
[07:42] <selinuxium> thompa: or in a command line     sleep [n]  && mplayer /path/to/audio   something like that!
[07:42] <thompa> NickGarvey: kalarm is not working to well, i just saw that rythembox has one
[07:42] <elekis> I have a littl prob. I use epiphany and I learn javscript, but I can't found the javascript debuggeur where is it please??
[07:42] <NickGarvey> thompa: you didn't get kalarm working? worked fine for me
[07:43] <FirstStrike> swarm: once you activate compiz (if that's what you're aiming for) you'll know.
[07:43] <wweasel> hush`: this copy of uTorrent.exe...it is the standalone exectuable, not the installer
[07:43] <selinuxium> thompa: or use cron to trigger...
[07:43] <rjian> hmm ill try to check it again.. can i erase the previous key?
[07:43] <thompa> NickGarvey: im trying to play some music with it, maybe thats the prob
[07:43] <hush`> wweasel: correct
[07:43] <NickGarvey> thompa: mm.. thats what I did
[07:43] <FirstStrike> swarm: in your system monitor at the bottom it'll say "XGL" too
[07:43] <thompa> selinuxium: thanks
[07:43] <FirstStrike> :>
[07:43] <swarm> FirstStrike, yeah
[07:43] <swarm> my comp is very sluggish right now
[07:43] <wweasel> hush`: I really have no clue. It should work perfectly. And I have no experience with Wine. I wish I knew...
[07:43] <swarm> i think it did work though
[07:44] <elekis> nobody here uuse epiphany?? sniff
[07:44] <swarm> although my ati card is not using acceleration for some reason.. grr
[07:44] <FirstStrike> compiz is still a little buggy for me..so i don't run it very often.
[07:44] <swarm> glxgears is so slow
[07:44] <thompa> NickGarvey: im in edgy using amd64 and such
[07:44] <wweasel> Does anyone here have any idea why Wine would be displaying a black terminal screen and crashign when trying to launch a file (this file is supported)?
[07:44] <NickGarvey> thompa: I think, #ubuntu+1 is what you want
[07:44] <thompa> NickGarvey: probably i only need to configure the player
[07:44] <thompa> yep thanks
[07:45] <thompa> NickGarvey: installing any kde apps is hazerdoes in edgy
[07:45] <NickGarvey> I would think heh
[07:45] <thompa> NickGarvey: its fun though
[07:45] <stephans> does anyone know how to make 3d acceleration work for and intel i810 in ubuntu
[07:45] <stephans> common in dell
[07:46] <stephans> dell inspiron 700 ...
[07:46] <stephans> to force it... the open gl.
[07:47] <NickGarvey> stephans: have you tried drivers?
[07:47] <stephans> what drivers?
[07:47] <benx213> stephans, check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068&highlight=xgl+810
[07:47] <stephans> ok
[07:48] <rapier> if i'm running a dhcpd server and then run dhclient, how do i tell the client to get an ip from an external dhcp server and not my local one?
[07:48] <cypher> where can i download dapper pilots ?
[07:48] <erikgz> stephans: google for it
[07:49] <erikgz> should be something very up at the topish
[07:49] <NickGarvey> rapier: use like dhcpcd -s IPADDRESS
[07:49] <Madpilot> cypher, pilots? Do you mean the test releases of the next Ubuntu version, or what?
[07:49] <erikgz> stephans: does lsmod | grep i810  show anything?
[07:51] <MrKeuner> I have Encrypt in the nautilus context menu, however when I right click on a.pgp file I do not get Decrypt option in the context menu. What should I do?
[07:51] <rouan> lo peeps.. any way we can help to keep the repos up to date?
[07:52] <stephans> erikgz: nope, but x detected "       Driver          "i810""
[07:52] <Flannel> rouan: what do you mean?
[07:53] <stephans> erikgz: i do not know what module it used
[07:53] <rouan> the x-moto in the repos was way old so i built the latest one myself
[07:53] <rouan> can i somehow upload that to the repos?
[07:53] <erikgz> okay... what version of ubuntu are you running?
[07:53] <rouan> dapper
[07:53] <sebakiller> MrKeuner: you should jump from a 9 floor building, hahaha , a little joke
[07:53] <erikgz> stephans: what version?
[07:53] <Flannel> rouan: no, each release of ubuntu has a fixed version (except bugfixes) in the repositories
[07:53] <erikgz> what does uname -a show?
[07:54] <rouan> erf :/
[07:54] <haga> how come my s-video of my video card isn't working?
[07:54] <haga> but my display is all good
[07:54] <benx213> haga what card are you using
[07:54] <MrKeuner> sebakiller/ I am glad that you are amused
[07:55] <krypto84sv> alguno de los presentes habla espaol?
[07:55] <haga> GeForce MX 400
[07:55] <Flannel> !es
[07:55] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:55] <stephans> erikgz: i am running the latest dapper...
[07:55] <NickGarvey> !es > krypto84sv
[07:55] <sebakiller> MrKeuner:  im bored, sorry
[07:55] <benx213> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456&highlight=nvidia+s-video
[07:55] <krypto84sv> muchas gracias!
[07:55] <erikgz> stephans: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[07:55] <sebakiller> no hay nadie en las de espanol
[07:56] <NickGarvey> krazykit: de nada :)
[07:56] <sebakiller> !*
[07:56] <NickGarvey> wrong person
[07:56] <NickGarvey> okie then
[07:56] <haga> benx213: im on debian
[07:57] <sebakiller> wow, im on ubuntu
[07:57] <Flannel> haga: #debian is for you then (except they're on a different server now)
[07:57] <stephans> erikgz: pastebin?
[07:57] <benx213> haga, sarge or sid?
[07:57] <xclett> Flannel: where did #debian go?
[07:58] <haga> Flannel: its all good, its not like im running asking Windows questions
[07:58] <haga> benx213: sarge
[07:58] <benx213> so are you still using xf86?
[07:58] <erikgz> stephans: okay, nevermind.  in /etc/X11/xorg.conf you should have a line in your "Device" section which reads: Driver  "i810"
[07:58] <erikgz> that'll load the i810 module and should make everything happy
[07:58] <haga> benx213: obviously
[07:59] <haga> benx213: yes
[07:59] <stephans> erikgz: i do and it loads but no 3d...
[08:00] <erikgz> glxgears ?
[08:00] <Flannel> haga: debian is really the only place you can go for help.  They have their own bugs/etc.  They'll be able to help you, we can't really.
[08:00] <Flannel> haga: especially considering ubuntu uses Xorg, not xfree
[08:00] <erikgz> stephans: lsmod | grep i810 returns ... ?
[08:00] <zac> hey I'm trying to restore grub to my MBR. my /boot partition is on /dev/hdc2. do I say grub-install /dev/hdc2 or grub-install /dev/hda, which is the primary master where windows is and what the computer boots fr
[08:00] <haga> Flannel: bugs, lol @ bugs, where, bugs?
[08:01] <haga> Flannel: did i even mention bugs?
[08:01] <Gun-Nut> will ubuntu 32 work on my comp? since its 64bit
[08:01] <Flannel> zac: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:01] <NickGarvey> Gun-Nut: yes
[08:01] <xclett> running both debian and ubuntu on different machines, much is the same.  experience on ubuntu was helpful for debian.
[08:01] <NickGarvey> Gun-Nut: if its an AMD64
[08:01] <stephans> erikgz: it return nothing...
[08:02] <MrKeuner> Gun-Nut/ not sure if intel is backward compatible
[08:02] <Flannel> haga: well, for whatever reason, be it bugs or configuration errors.  ubuntu is vastly different than debian on this issue.
[08:02] <xclett> though it's true that sometimes debian has its own issues (it's generally more painful than ubuntu, mostly due to fewer packages available -- and me needing to search for and build more on my own)
[08:02] <Gun-Nut> Am, AMD64
[08:02] <erikgz> hmm
[08:02] <stephans> erikgz: Since my xorg has the driver line in it and x does not crach trying to use i assume that it is there
[08:02] <erikgz> you can't assume that
[08:03] <stephans> erikgz: ok
[08:03] <erikgz> stephans: does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log have any WW or EE in it?
[08:03] <erikgz> (warnings or errors?)
[08:03] <stephans> erikgz: let me see...
[08:04] <xclett> Gun-Nut: unless you're a developer with interest in helping move things to amd64, I'd recommend installing the 32bit one
[08:04] <stephans> erikgz, (WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum
[08:04] <xclett> Gun-Nut: (yes, the 32 bit one works fine - and it avoid many problems)
[08:04] <NickGarvey> yes! you want 32 bit ubuntu tust me
[08:05] <PurpleTet> hey guy, im havin problem playin my mp3s
[08:05] <benx213> PurpleTet, whats the problem
[08:05] <NickGarvey> !mp3 > PurpleTet
[08:05] <Frankenstein> how do i turn on the sshd
[08:05] <erikgz> stephans: yeah, i get that too
[08:05] <stephans> erikgz,(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[08:05] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:05] <erikgz> stephans: do you have a wacom tablet :) ?
[08:05] <xclett> Gun-Nut: I run the 64bit one, but it's a big mess... some things don't work on the 64 bit one, certain surprising packages are missing in 64bit, etc.  I've got a 32bit chroot environment in my 64bit one which mirrors almost everything at this point.
[08:05] <PurpleTet> hangon, ill get the error
[08:05] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: it turns on by default
[08:06] <erikgz> stephans: try grep WW /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:06] <stephans> erikgz, nope just a dell 700m laptop
[08:06] <erikgz> and grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:06] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, i did... i even changed the port in the config but i cant conenct to the other machine
[08:06] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: have firestarter?
[08:06] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, no
[08:06] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: is this in your house?
[08:06] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: I suggest changing it back to the fault
[08:06] <stephans>         (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[08:06] <stephans> (WW) The directory "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist.
[08:06] <stephans> (WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum
[08:06] <stephans> (WW) I810(0): config file hsync range 30-67kHz not within DDC hsync ranges.
[08:06] <stephans> (WW) I810(0): config file vrefresh range 30-60Hz not within DDC vrefresh ranges.(WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum
[08:06] <xclett> Gun-Nut: for instance, on top of the usual things people complain about, I recently found that psyco for Python doesn't have a package on 64bit.  So I had to go and make a complete 32bit Python config.
[08:06] <stephans> (WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f05 failed.
[08:06] <TSP_X> how can i use the command build-dep?
[08:06] <stephans> (WW) I810(0): Option "UseFBDev" is not used
[08:06] <NickGarvey> !paste > stephans
[08:07] <william_> Can someone link me to the most up to date article how to install Nvidia cards because I've followed the one from ubuntu.com 3 times and no luck
[08:07] <william_> please :)
[08:07] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, it doesnt work that way or any other way
[08:07] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: no I mean, where is the other computer? is it in your house?
[08:07] <benx213> william_, what card are you trying to install
[08:07] <Frankenstein> no
[08:07] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: port forwarding then, connect to your router
[08:07] <erikgz> stephans: sudo modprobe i810
[08:08] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, im trying to connect to a pc from the outside... that has openssh-server installed...
[08:08] <william_> GeforceGo 7800, I've had Dapper since it came out but decided to format today and cannot get nvidia working again, it was soo easy last time :P
[08:08] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, it doesnt work, its not behind any router
[08:08] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: then they need to set up port forwarding
[08:08] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: really?
[08:08] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, yes
[08:08] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: would you mind pming me the ip so I can check if its up?
[08:08] <PurpleTet> benx213: i get this when i try to play my mp3s "Audio codec 'MPEG 1 Layer 3 CBR' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies"
[08:08] <stephans> erikgz, ok ..
[08:08] <stephans> erikgz, done
[08:08] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: if you don't want to I won't take it personally ;)
[08:08] <erikgz> lsmod | grep i810
[08:09] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, checking if what is up
[08:09] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: the server
[08:09] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, it is...
[08:09] <stephans> erikgz, lsmod shows it now
[08:09] <ese5> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse:
[08:09] <ese5>  Depends: liblame0 (>=3.96.1-1) but it is not installable
[08:09] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: w do you know?
[08:09] <ese5> what the hell
[08:09] <benx213> william_, i think you can just sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common and then edit your xorg.conf file to load the nvidia driver
[08:09] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, i pinged it?
[08:09] <ese5> i have all the repositories checked
[08:09] <stephans> along with drm???
[08:09] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: that means the computer is up, not the server
[08:09] <erikgz> restart X
[08:09] <benx213> PurpleTet, you are missing codecs. what program are you trying to play your mp3s in
[08:09] <erikgz> and then... glxgears ?
[08:09] <william_> benx213, when I get to the part about sudo nvidia-glx-config enable it falls apart
[08:10] <stephans> erikgz, ok ... by by
[08:10] <Hazarath> Um... hey.
[08:10] <PurpleTet> benx213:  well the default program is totem
[08:10] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, root      7113  0.0  0.4   4760  1032 ?        Ss   01:59   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[08:10] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: okie then
[08:10] <dani_> hola
[08:10] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: wait how did you get that?
[08:10] <Hazarath> Need advice on playin' MP4 video
[08:10] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: if you can't connect to it?
[08:10] <jes-o-mat> hi
[08:10] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, im not stupid bud...
[08:10] <benx213> PurpleTet, do you have universe and multiverse repos enabled?
[08:11] <PurpleTet> im pretty sure
[08:11] <PurpleTet> they are
[08:11] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, and you obiously are of no help... so thanks
[08:11] <jes-o-mat> how do I get a patch from linux git-tree for a specific sha1-sum?
[08:11] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: what? I just don't understand how you ran a ps aux on a computer you can't connet too
[08:11] <martinkb> hi, before i go download 600MB i would like to know about support for "Dell Wireless 1350 WLAN Mini-PCI Card", i have looked at the fourms and think there is support, but i want to be sure :)
[08:11] <PurpleTet> benx213:  what apt do i need to get?
[08:11] <benx213> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-multiverse
[08:11] <william_> benx213, after I change it from nv to nvidia how do I get my 1920x1080 resolution
[08:11] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, im on the phone with the other user
[08:11] <benx213> i thank that you will do it
[08:12] <HeathenDan> for mp4, download 232codecs. mp4 is h264 container format, and will play in totem if you have the proper codec
[08:12] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: and he told you all of that over the phone?
[08:12] <NickGarvey> and you typed it all?
[08:12] <NickGarvey> with all of the spaces just right?
[08:12] <benx213> william_, you can try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:12] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, yes
[08:12] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: stop trolling and leave
[08:12] <HeathenDan> 232codecs > w32codecs
[08:12] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, im not... im trying to get help
[08:12] <Hazarath> Heathen: URL? Kinda new, donno how to get that.
[08:12] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, stop being such a smartass and we wont have a problem... seems your the one being a troll... if you cant help, dont speak
[08:13] <Frankenstein> is there an OP around?
[08:13] <HellDragon> :o
[08:13] <SleepingCreep> Hi my x server is down
[08:13] <HeathenDan> hmm, google for easyubuntu and install it. it has the option to download and install the w32codecs
[08:13] <Frankenstein> SleepingCreep, down? try startx
[08:13] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: /msg ubotu ops for a list of all the ops
[08:14] <SleepingCreep> It doesn't work.
[08:14] <Frankenstein> SleepingCreep, whats the error
[08:14] <Hazarath> Heathen: Got the restricted formats installed. No audio on said video.
[08:14] <jme> what happens when you run it, SleepingCreep ?
[08:14] <SleepingCreep> error 104 on x server "o.0
[08:14] <Frankenstein> !error 104
[08:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about error 104 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <SleepingCreep> *":0.0"
[08:14] <Frankenstein> meh... umm... look up error 104 for x
[08:14] <deoryp> could some one help me get firefox 1.5 installed?
[08:14] <verbose> Frankenstein: i believe you can also type '!ops' in channel, but that would not be appropriate in this case i think
[08:15] <NickGarvey> SleepingCreep: do you have anymore info?
[08:15] <HeathenDan> no audio? hmm. do you have an idea what the audio is in that file? try installing vlc with plugins and see if it can play it
[08:15] <Frankenstein> verbose, not worth my time... im very tired
[08:15] <Frankenstein> nite
[08:15] <verbose> Frankenstein: good call
[08:15] <ese5> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:15] <ese5>   gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse: Depends: liblame0 (>= 3.96.1-1) but it is not installable
[08:15] <SleepingCreep> no screens found.
[08:16] <Hazarath> Heathen: That's the problem.. got VLC... still won't play... trying to download the vids from Google video... got it to save in MP4, but it will only play Vid, no sound.
[08:16] <Hazarath> For PSP, technally.
[08:16] <HeathenDan> very odd indeed. i had no problems with google vids in mp4 format
[08:16] <Madpilot> Frankenstein, there are a number of ops present - what's the problem?
[08:17] <HeathenDan> maybe you have another thing that's using the sound daemon?
[08:17] <Hazarath> Not likely.
[08:17] <SleepingCreep> NickGarvey: it says "no screens found"
[08:17] <NickGarvey> Madpilot: do you see the exchange between me and him up a page or two?
[08:17] <robert_> nobody's got any idea why ubuntu hangs right after loading the kernel event manager?
[08:17] <SleepingCreep> and fail to load all modules.
[08:17] <HeathenDan> do you have alsa-oss installed? maybe you can run "$ aoss totem" it
[08:18] <Hazarath> Command not found.
[08:19] <HeathenDan> ok, try installing alsa-oss via synaptic
[08:19] <zac> I'm trying to use grub-install to restore my MBR but none of the how-tos are specific enough. The boot drive is /dev/hda and the linux /boot partition is on /dev/hdc2
[08:19] <HeathenDan> then try that command again
[08:19] <Lobster> auso apt-get install alsa-oss
[08:19] <Lobster> sudo
[08:19] <HeathenDan> or apt-get
[08:19] <HeathenDan> or aptitude
[08:19] <Hazarath> Er...
[08:19] <zac> and when I say grub-install /dev/hda it says it can't find the /boot partition
[08:19] <Hazarath> What one?
[08:20] <Lobster> what you want, Hazarath ...
[08:20] <HeathenDan> sudo apt-get install alsa-oss <-- type this in terminal
[08:20] <_JECKEL_> hey guys...I got a 60 gig external hard-drive and I was wondering if there was a way I could get a live-CDish like version of Ubuntu on their so I can have Ubuntu wherever I go...
[08:20] <Lobster> its all the same
[08:20] <HeathenDan> diff ways to dl from repositories
[08:20] <NickGarvey> _JECKEL_: the desktop cd on ubuntu.com is a live cd
[08:20] <hush`> wweasel: HECK YES!
[08:21] <_JECKEL_> well yes...that's awesome..but I wanna be able to boot to it and carry it around in this external drive
[08:21] <Lobster> _JECKEL_, you can use the live-dc and make your external drife your home-partition
[08:21] <_JECKEL_> hmmmm
[08:21] <_JECKEL_> how?
[08:21] <Hazarath> Still no good.
[08:21] <Lobster> i think booting an usb-hd is very slow...
[08:21] <HeathenDan> install ubuntu in your ext hdd
[08:22] <verbose> _JECKEL_: you want to not use the cd at all, but boot from your external hard drive instead?
[08:22] <HeathenDan> as long as you use the default i386 kernel, it will work with most pcs
[08:22] <_JECKEL_> yeah...wondering if that's possible so I can take it and have linux on any comp I go to..
[08:23] <verbose> _JECKEL_: then just do an install to the external hard drive
[08:23] <verbose> like HeathenDan said
[08:23] <hush`> How do i make a shortcut on the desktop
[08:23] <NickGarvey> hush`: you can use ln -s, that should work
[08:23] <_JECKEL_> ok...but i'm wondering if that will completley destory whatever drivers the company put in this thing...
[08:23] <HeathenDan> you have to edit the bios to make it boot from usb. and older pcs do not have that options. and internet cafes will not allow you to edit the bios
[08:23] <hush`> nickgarvey: lb -s /path/to/filename ?
[08:24] <_JECKEL_> bleh
[08:24] <verbose> _JECKEL_: drivers are built-in to most OS's
[08:24] <_JECKEL_> so it's useless then?
[08:24] <verbose> _JECKEL_: they're certainly not on the external drive
[08:24] <NickGarvey> ln -s /original/file ~/Desktop/shortcutname
[08:24] <HeathenDan> hush`, right click desktop > create launcher
[08:24] <_JECKEL_> hmmm
[08:24] <verbose> if they were, things without the drivers wouldnt' be able to access them and things with the drivers would, but they wouldn't need to
[08:24] <_JECKEL_> anyone know how to get KDE or Gnome to work from Cygwin then?
[08:24] <Hazarath> Heathen: I'll be right back, however, still nothing. Trying a new file to see if it's rthe codec, or the file.
[08:24] <sieoxlxe> Hi. : ) I installed Ubuntu from a chroot and base-config is dead now, so I never ran the basic configuration script. How do I do that? It mostly works by hand but it's getting some problems, mainly with sudo, etc.
[08:25] <HeathenDan> ok
[08:25] <HeathenDan> i'll be off soon. gonna play diablo2
[08:25] <HeathenDan> cause wine can't run rise of nations :p
[08:25] <Flannel> _JECKEL_: you mean, running entirely on cygwin? or remote-Xservering?
[08:25] <Generic> Grrr!
[08:26] <_JECKEL_> what is remote-Xservering?
[08:27] <Bonez56> hi, i have ubuntu running in 1280x768 with a 17" LCD and NVidia GeForce card, but now on the right hand side of my screen it goes all fuzzy, and the main picture is squashed up on the left. it works fine in other resolutions such as 1024x786. anyone seen this before?
[08:27] <shaantanu> hi there ... umm I followed a tutorial on ubuntuguide.org ... to improve my sound quality, but now i dont have any sound on my ubuntu ... I edited my sound config file according to the tutorial and even restored it back using the backup i created then , but my alsa driver seems to have gone away , when i check it out in the preferences
[08:27] <verbose> Bonez56: that's a weird resolution...try 1280x1024
[08:27] <Flannel> _JECKEL_: if you have an ubuntu box you can connect to it with cygwin (or any other Xserver), sort of like a thin client
[08:27] <Bonez56> verbose: that's what I meant, sorry. It wont work in 1280x1024
[08:28] <robd> Hey all
[08:28] <robd> Has anyone here setup VMware Workstation in Ubuntu Dapper Drake?
[08:28] <verbose> Bonez56: ok, try googling for "modeline generator" or better yet "linux modeline <your monitor model>" and see if you can find a Modeline to add to your xorg.conf
[08:28] <verbose> Bonez56: also, does your lcd have an autoadjust button?
[08:28] <robd> I'm trying to figure out how to get it to compile the vmware modules to my kernel... (I installed the kernel headers and source, but I'm trying to find out where I can get my running kernels config...)
[08:28] <shaantanu> robd : temme
[08:29] <robd> shaantanu: huh?
[08:29] <Bonez56> verbose: it used to work before without a problem, then it just stopped working. Yes it has an auto adjust button but it looks liek it could possibly be a problem with refresh rate. how do i change that? the only option i get in gnome is 85hz
[08:29] <IcemanV9> !sound > shaantanu
[08:29] <_JECKEL_> hmmm
[08:29] <_JECKEL_> actually..that sounds pretty good
[08:29] <shaantanu> robd : have u install build-essential
[08:29] <Hazarath> Heathen: Trying new vid...
[08:29] <PurpleTet> benx213:  still no result :(
[08:29] <robd> shaantanu: yep
[08:29] <_JECKEL_> keep ubuntu running at home and then using cygwin to connect to it when I'm at school...
[08:29] <verbose> Bonez56: that's what the Modeline line does in your X config file(tells the xserver what refresh rate among other things to use)
[08:30] <shaantanu> robd: whats the problem ??
[08:30] <cilkay> Shouldn't you be able to switch X modes by hitting Ctrl-Alt-+ ?
[08:30] <Hazarath> I feel stupid... bad file. Works fine.
[08:30] <Bonez56> verbose: weird, cause 85hz used to work fine, i didn't change anything and now it does not like it.
[08:30] <robd> shaantanu: It's just complaining that it hasn't found version.h in the includes dir
[08:30] <IcemanV9> _JECKEL_: nah. just pay attention @ school. don't worry about your PC @ home. ;)
[08:30] <verbose> Bonez56: that is quite weird...and you haven't upgraded any software?
[08:30] <shaantanu> robd : ok ... I had a similar prob , just wait a sec
[08:31] <verbose> Bonez56: if all the software is the same i'd test the lcd on another computer
[08:31] <Bonez56> verbose: nope, nothing to do with x11
[08:31] <robd> shaantanu: thanks
[08:31] <_JECKEL_> I meant for the breaks between classes dood
[08:31] <verbose> Bonez56: typically if you haven't changed any software, it's hardware failure
[08:31] <_JECKEL_> bleh...I'll just grab torrents from the super fast skool compies >_>
[08:31] <PurpleTet> hey guy have problem playin mp3s on ubuntu using totem this error comes up everytime i try to play a mp3 "Audio codec 'MPEG 1 Layer 3 CBR' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies"
[08:31] <Bonez56> verbose: i also tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and that didn't fix it
[08:31] <NickGarvey> _JECKEL_: heh, I use "putty" to connect to it
[08:31] <Hazarath> Heathen: Thanks, just over reacted. Might ask another time to set uo QoS. See ya.
[08:31] <PurpleTet> hey guy have problem playin mp3s on ubuntu using totem this error comes up everytime i try to play a mp3 "Audio codec 'MPEG 1 Layer 3 CBR' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies"
[08:31] <Flannel> _JECKEL_: goign that far, just ssh in, yeah.
[08:32] <_JECKEL_> yes...
[08:32] <rasmussenj> PurpleTet: sudo aptitude lame  #will install free mp3 tools
[08:33] <rasmussenj> PurpleTet: sudo aptitude install lame
[08:33] <shaantanu> robd: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` build-essential xinetd
[08:33] <PurpleTet> ok thx rasmussenj ill try that
[08:33] <robd> shaantanu: Thanks
[08:34] <shaantanu> robd: dont thank ... try first
[08:34] <shaantanu> u cud still have more probs
[08:34] <robd> shaantanu: I'm sure I'll figure it out
[08:34] <shaantanu> robd: best of luck then
[08:34] <PurpleTet> rasmussenj: what do i do after it has done installin?
[08:34] <robd> shaantanu: :)
[08:35] <william_> whoever was helping me.... I figured it out why my nvidia drivers werent working.. its rather weird :(
[08:35] <NickGarvey> william_: why?
[08:35] <william_> well my monitor on my laptop has always been 1920x1080 which is 1080p... well now I have to run 1920x1280?!?!
[08:36] <william_> I've always ran 1920x1080 but it wasnt an option in xorg-server but it works and looks good soo I dunno
[08:36] <william_> Do you guys recommend automatix or BUMPS?
[08:36] <NickGarvey> william_: easyubuntu
[08:36] <MrKeuner> I have Encrypt in the nautilus context menu, however when I right click on a.pgp file I do not get Decrypt option in the context menu. What should I do?
[08:36] <NickGarvey> !easyubuntu > william_
[08:37] <william_> what happened to Automatix? that was the best no?
[08:38] <NickGarvey> william_: um.. I don't advice it due to problems that can occur by its usage
[08:38] <naa> ARGH
[08:38] <naa> no matter what I do
[08:38] <naa> "cannot apply changes!1 fix broken packages first lolol"
[08:39] <Ademan> is it possible to write a shared object in c++ and export a strictly c API? (and not only that, not allow any name mangling)
[08:39] <NickGarvey> naa: sudo apt-get install -f
[08:39] <Ademan> is it possible to write a shared object in c++ and export a strictly c API? (and not only that, not allow any name mangling)
[08:39] <NickGarvey> Ademan: I think that question is way over the head of most people (such as myself) in this channel
[08:40] <william_> NickGarvey, totem vs mplayer for embeded videos?
[08:40] <NickGarvey> william_: I use mplayer
[08:41] <naa> let's see if it works this time
[08:41] <NickGarvey> william_: easyubuntu sets that up for you
[08:41] <william_> NickGarvey, it says Totem
[08:41] <NickGarvey> william_: really?  I didn't think so..
[08:41] <PreZ> Anyone know where to get packages for a newer (than 0.18.1) version of mythtv?
[08:41] <william_> I think Ill use bumps like I did last time.. cause I like mplayer alot
[08:42] <naa> didn't work, Nick
[08:42] <NickGarvey> naa: what happened/didn't
[08:42] <PurpleTet> hey guy have problem playin mp3s on ubuntu using totem this error comes up everytime i try to play a mp3 "Audio codec 'MPEG 1 Layer 3 CBR' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies"
[08:42] <NickGarvey> naa: have you ran "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" ?
[08:42] <naa> same thing that happened last time I tried installing easyubuntu
[08:42] <naa> "cannot install! fix broken packages!
[08:42] <naa> "
[08:42] <NickGarvey> naa: have you ran that though?
[08:43] <naa> yeah
[08:43] <NickGarvey> naa: like if run it right now and tell me what happens
[08:43] <NickGarvey> haha that was messed up
[08:43] <NickGarvey> naa: run it right now and tell me what happens (please)
[08:43] <naa> ok
[08:43] <naa> Reading package lists... Done
[08:43] <naa> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:44] <NickGarvey> naa: does it upgrade anything?
[08:44] <naa> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 44 not upgraded.
[08:44] <NickGarvey> 44 not upgraded :)
[08:44] <NickGarvey> naa: have you ran "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[08:44] <NickGarvey> naa: oh doh
[08:44] <NickGarvey> naa: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:44] <NickGarvey> naa: try that one
[08:44] <lunnnnn> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[08:44] <NickGarvey> !ops
[08:44] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[08:45] <Hobbsee> nalioth: poing
[08:45] <Greatmetal> hi
[08:45] <Hobbsee> nalioth: er, dont worry
[08:45] <nalioth> NickGarvey: please, dude.  see where lunnnn was "killed by alindeman" ?
[08:45] <NickGarvey> nalioth: oh no I didn't, I'm sorry
[08:45] <Madpilot> NickGarvey, DCC morons are generally k-lined very, very quickly
[08:45] <Greatmetal> umm i need help :9
[08:45] <NickGarvey> Madpilot: didn't know that, sorry for the false alarm
[08:45] <RadHatter> How would you install Ubuntu (or rather Xubuntu) on a computer that doesn't have a (working) CD drive or floppy drive? The only way to get information to it is by network or by taking out its hdd and putting stuff on it on another computer and then replacing it in the computer. Can I make a bootable image on the hdd that would initiate a network install?
[08:45] <RadHatter> The problem with installing something on the hdd and then replacing it is that many installs configure hardware in the install. Can I maybe create a very very basic debian install on the hdd and then use something like debootstrap only for Xubuntu? Does that sound plausible?
[08:45] <nalioth> NickGarvey: that means they are gone.  there are automated things going on to k-line all those idiots
[08:45] <NickGarvey> nalioth: :) good
[08:46] <NickGarvey> sorry again
[08:46] <Greatmetal> :(
[08:46] <nalioth> Madpilot: don't you mean "instantly"?
[08:46] <Madpilot> nalioth, close enough ;)
[08:46] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: people have done netboots I think
[08:47] <naa> Nick, could you say that last command again?
[08:47] <Greatmetal> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189509 here is my problem :(
[08:47] <PurpleTet> hey guy have problem playin mp3s on ubuntu using totem this error comes up everytime i try to play a mp3 "Audio codec 'MPEG 1 Layer 3 CBR' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies"
[08:47] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Well the computer is old and stupid and refuses to boot from USB peripherals or from net.
[08:47] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: So, I can't use a USB floppy drive or something like that.
[08:47] <FirstStrike> RadHatter: got a 1 gig pen drive and a usb slot? :P
[08:47] <edgy> Hi, I do sudo su - username; whoami but that didn't change the user, any hint?
[08:48] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: then.. hard drive would be my suggestion.. you might be able to install damn small linux, and then use that to install ubuntu
[08:48] <RadHatter> edgy: Stupid old computer--won't boot from USB peripherals.
[08:48] <RadHatter> I did have DSL on it
[08:48] <Greatmetal> :((
[08:48] <RadHatter> I didn't know where to go from there.
[08:48] <NickGarvey> edgy: try sudo -i
[08:48] <RadHatter> How would I go from a DSL install to Ubuntu?
[08:48] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: chroot
[08:49] <Greatmetal> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189509 here is my probelm
[08:49] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Sorry. Please be more specific.
[08:49] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: mount the iso, and chroot into it, then use text based installer tools from there
[08:49] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: (not going to be easy heh)
[08:49] <RadHatter> Hmm...
[08:50] <RadHatter> Where is the text based installer?
[08:50] <lumgwada> hi, I need a php script to fire off another script with root privileges... in the past I've done this by scheduling a job file that gets read by a root cron script... can anyone recommend a more elegent method of doing this on ubuntu/debian? (ie with no cron lag...)
[08:50] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: no idea at all, but the alternate cd must have it somewhere, I have never poked around for it
[08:50] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: I'd wait around a little bit for someone smarter to give you more info, but I think a chroot is your best bet
[08:51] <Greatmetal> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189509 here is my probelm
[08:51] <NickGarvey> .
[08:51] <sloncho> hi. where from I can dawnload the latest kernel images for breezy. After upgrade to 2.6.12-10 my network card is not working, so, i need using another comp to dawnload older or newer kernel to try to recover
[08:51] <NickGarvey> naa: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:51] <NickGarvey> .
[08:52] <Greatmetal> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189509 here is my problem
[08:52] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Also, when I booted into DSL from the stupid computer, everything was green-ish and scanlined with white. Things were hardly visible but they were there. I guess, DSL didn't have the driver I needed (the card works well under Ubuntu). Can you recommend what to do with that so that the text based install won't be such a terrible pain?
[08:52] <NickGarvey> naa: tit should update stuff
[08:52] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: oh well that was the GUI right?
[08:52] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: I hope?
[08:52] <chops-> damm my athlon xp 1600+ board doesn't support the big booting drive
[08:52] <Greatmetal> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189509 here is my problem
[08:53] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Well, when I went into the terminal (ctrl alt backspace) everything was still green-ish. I guess the text terminal was still run by DSL. When booting, all was well. As soon as X was loading, with it's X cursor, everything was green-ish.
[08:53] <Greatmetal> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189509 here is my problem
[08:53] <RadHatter> I mean still run by X.
[08:54] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: thats ugly.. do you know how to not boot into a GUI? its like "dsl 2" or something
[08:54] <PyroManiak> how do you fix a stuttering mouse?
[08:55] <Greatmetal> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189509 here is my problem
[08:55] <NickGarvey> PyroManiak: try /msg ubotu mouse
[08:55] <Flannel> PyroManiak: speech therapy
[08:55] <NickGarvey> mighh have some info
[08:55] <NickGarvey> Flannel: haha nice
[08:55] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: I haven't a clue. Is there no way to abort X starting up? Like, go to shell immediately? Is there maybe a simple shell-only distro I should try instead of DSL?
[08:55] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: no, its a boot command, I'm sure it is
[08:55] <NickGarvey> lemme grab the iso and run it in a vm
[08:56] <RadHatter> Well, once installed on the HDD from the CD, it doesn't bring up the boot menu.
[08:56] <RadHatter> I think.
[08:56] <RadHatter> I'll have to check it out again.
[08:56] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: oh, theres probably a config file somewhere
[08:56] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: because I know I had it turned off at one point
[08:57] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Hmm... I hope we can find it. The chroot idea sounds rather good. :)
[08:57] <`m0> can I run ubuntu ontop of windows xp?
[08:57] <`m0> like install ubuntu after I install winxp
[08:57] <Greatmetal> yes
[08:57] <sloncho> hi. where from I can dawnload the latest kernel images for breezy. After upgrade to 2.6.12-10 my network card is not working, so, i need using another comp to dawnload older or newer kernel to try to recover
[08:57] <`m0> can Iuse the same c:\ drive?
[08:57] <NickGarvey> m0;: yes, its called a change root
[08:57] <Greatmetal> yes
[08:58] <NickGarvey> m0: you will still have the c:\, but you can't install ubuntu on it
[08:58] <`m0> would it affect my other drives?
[08:58] <Greatmetal> no
[08:58] <NickGarvey> m0: nope :)
[08:58] <`m0> hmm so I need a separate drive for ubuntu only
[08:58] <Greatmetal> no
[08:58] <NickGarvey> `m0: no, its called partitioning
[08:58] <NickGarvey> !dualboot
[08:58] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[08:58] <`m0> i know
[08:58] <NickGarvey> `m0: read the first howto there
[08:58] <`m0> but I don't want to partition now
[08:58] <Greatmetal> !wireless
[08:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:58] <`m0> i have information on c drive
[08:59] <FirstStrike> you can resize your windows partition and install ubuntu on the free space.
[08:59] <`m0> If I use partition magic that is
[08:59] <RadHatter> `mo: Look for Magic Partition (someone correct me if I'm wrong on the name) for Windows for repartitioning while saving info. Or, on Linux, try parted (again, name?)
[08:59] <Greatmetal> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189509 here is my wireless problem
[08:59] <NickGarvey> `m0: no, theres a free program, gparted
[08:59] <`m0> But I have nightmares with partition magic
[08:59] <NickGarvey> `m0: defrag first! do it like 3 times!
[08:59] <`m0> NickGarvey: lol
[09:00] <NickGarvey> trust me on that :)
[09:00] <`m0> WindowsXP is crucial for me thats why :) I do alot of vs2k5 dev on it
[09:00] <`m0> hrmm why wont I just risk one of my 80gb hds :)
[09:00] <`m0> I have 900gb :s
[09:01] <`m0> I think that will be a better idea
[09:01] <sepman> problem with canon mp390, prints ok with blc 7000 driver, but scanner doesn' t work. any help?
[09:01] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: well, the boot command is "dsl 2"
[09:01] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: but lemme see what the config file is
[09:01] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: did you do a frugal install?
[09:01] <RadHatter> I did not. Should I? I can easily reinstall DSL again.
[09:02] <`m0> Greatmetal: why wont you use gnome network manager
[09:02] <Greatmetal> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189509 here is my wireless problem
[09:02] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: oh no, its fine
[09:02] <`m0> Greatmetal: It works great with my laptop
[09:02] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: can you ssh into the dsl box?
[09:02] <ppcguy> hey all any way to set up GDM after an intial install?
[09:03] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Maybe? I don't know. That would help with the green, wouldn't it. Is ssh access enabled by default?
[09:03] <Greatmetal> :(
[09:03] <RadHatter> I'll go try
[09:03] <RadHatter> One min
[09:03] <Greatmetal> pleae help it is my only connection to the net
[09:03] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: ok, I don't think its on by default but it IS installed
[09:03] <`m0> Greatmetal: but it seems you have some firmware problems maybe
[09:03] <Greatmetal> i used ndiswrapper
[09:03] <`m0> Greatmetal: What wireless card you have?
[09:03] <Greatmetal> usr 5416
[09:04] <Greatmetal> linuxant didnt work
[09:04] <NickGarvey> Greatmetal: try "iwlist scan"
[09:04] <Greatmetal> okay
[09:04] <`m0> iwlist scanning
[09:04] <Greatmetal> last time i did that no networks were found
[09:04] <`m0> Greatmetal: are you sure you have hte correct firmware?
[09:05] <Greatmetal> yes
[09:05] <`m0> Greatmetal: you have an ip?
[09:05] <Greatmetal> latest drivers
[09:05] <Greatmetal> i cant even connect useing static ip
[09:05] <Gun_Smoke> Disks manager will not finish loading up.  I get pass password and then the wheel just keeps a spinning.. About 15 minutes now... Help?
[09:05] <`m0> Greatmetal: why do you need static?
[09:05] <ppcguy> hey all any way to set up GDM after an intial install?
[09:05] <Greatmetal> becuase dhcp does not work
[09:05] <NickGarvey> `m0: I think that was a debugging step, not a necesity
[09:05] <`m0> ppcguy: you could edit the gdm file
[09:07] <Greatmetal> the card is recognized in the system but cant connect to anything
[09:07] <Greatmetal> and i hate windows with the intensity of 1000 suns!!!
[09:07] <NickGarvey> Greatmetal: I had the same problem to be honest, and I use suse now, so I'm not sure what the problem is
[09:07] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Okay, so DSL is not installed on the HDD right now (I was messing with it trying different things). So, I'm gonna install it now. Should I do a simple install to HDD? Or, frugal? And what boot loader should I use?
[09:08] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: I suggest grub frugal
[09:08] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: you have plenty of space right?
[09:08] <`m0> Greatmetal: i have bcm43xx  wireless card and it works for me
[09:08] <RadHatter> NickGravey: So what exactly is frugal? Like with the least amount of packages and stuff and just the nitty-gritty?
[09:08] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: from what I understand, its more like coping the iso to your hard drive and running that, rather than installing
[09:09] <Greatmetal> hmmm
[09:09] <`m0> Greatmetal: I did some hacking around it to make it work since its known to be bad.
[09:09] <Banger1> how do i install ubuntu server?
[09:09] <NickGarvey> which makes upgrades very easy, where as a normal install you need to reinstall it all
[09:09] <swarm> how do i find my xfree86 version?
[09:09] <NickGarvey> Banger1: theres a cd for that
[09:09] <`m0> Greatmetal: what does it say when you do lspci ?
[09:09] <NickGarvey> Banger1: in the downloads section
[09:09] <Banger1> i downloaded ubuntu 6.06, and booted the cd
[09:09] <`m0> Greatmetal: what is the model of the wireless device?
[09:09] <NickGarvey> Greatmetal: pastebin it pelase
[09:09] <Banger1> is it a seperate CD?
[09:09] <NickGarvey> Banger1: yes
[09:09] <Banger1> when i clicked download on the server description page, it took me to the same place as normal ubuntu
[09:09] <Greatmetal> us robotics 5416 turbo pci
[09:09] <`m0> Banger1: Just press next next next
[09:10] <afflux> morgen.
[09:10] <`m0> Greatmetal: sorry m8, I never worked with it. If I had would of helped you
[09:10] <Greatmetal> okay thank you
[09:10] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Actually, I think last time I tried to do frugal it didn't let me do grub because it said something about it being SCSI or something (it was sda because it was connected on a USB enclosure) and said that grub frugal is for hda or something weird like that. LILO worked. Is LILO okay?
[09:10] <swarm> XFree86 4.3? or X.Org 6.8?
[09:11] <swarm> with ubuntu
[09:11] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: of course, I am just more familiar with grub so thats what I suggest, but lilo will work fine
[09:11] <Gun_Smoke> Banger1:  for i386 http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-server-i386.iso
[09:12] <Greatmetal> i used ship it for my cd
[09:13] <PyroManiak> Anyone here have problems with swiftfox hard locking their machines?
[09:13] <YogSothoth> Hi
[09:14] <Greatmetal> i use firefox with fasterfox and firetune
[09:14] <Banger1> Gun_Smoke, thanks
[09:14] <Greatmetal> makes it faster
[09:14] <YogSothoth> I'm still stuck with my dualscreen setup :-) Can you have a look here?? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1402664#post1402664
[09:14] <meathead> hello
[09:15] <Gun_Smoke> Banger1:  No problem.. It is at the screen you were at.. Just needed to scroll down a bit more.
[09:15] <PyroManiak> Greatmetal: Thats a little different then what swiftfox does..
[09:15] <Greatmetal> i know
[09:15] <Greatmetal> swiftfox has been coded from source
[09:17] <PyroManiak> Greatmetal: firetune is also only for windows it seems.. oh well
[09:17] <Greatmetal> yeah
[09:17] <Greatmetal> i haveing a little trouble with my inet in ubuntu
[09:19] <Greatmetal> since my usr 5416 card is being a big butt
[09:20] <Flashtek> yikes.. thats a lot of people..
[09:20] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Okay. So, it's letting me do grub. (I dunno what was up with it before. Maybe I'm just crazy.) Now, before I take out the hdd, I need to put the iso in it to chroot into it. So, do you know if the simple xubuntu iso has a text installer or if I have to use Ubuntu and then install xubuntu-desktop? If Ubuntu, then just the regular disk? Alternate? The mini.iso netinstall disk maybe?
[09:20] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: wait, do you want a GUI on this machine?
[09:21] <blackMOORE> how to run mp3 in ubuntu ? v5.10
[09:21] <NickGarvey> !mp3 > blackMOORE
[09:21] <FirstStrike> ...
[09:21] <blackMOORE> ty FirstStrike
[09:21] <NickGarvey> Flashtek: :) can we help you? (#gentoo has more)
[09:21] <NickGarvey> s/FirstStrike/NickGarvey/
[09:21] <ese5> !yams >> blackMOORE
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yams > - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <NickGarvey> ese5: its only one >
[09:22] <NickGarvey> and yams isn't a factoid anyway
[09:22] <FirstStrike> NickGarvey: = FirstStrike?
[09:22] <ese5> oh .. oops
[09:22] <NickGarvey> FirstStrike: no, he just thanked the wrong guy hehe
[09:22] <ese5> !mp3 > blackmoore
[09:22] <FirstStrike> :P
[09:22] <Greatmetal> !wireless usr 5416
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireless usr 5416 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <FirstStrike> i know
[09:22] <Flashtek> NickGarvey: i'm having a problem with usung gpsdrive and kismet together... i'm unsure if it's application specific or distro specific problem..
[09:22] <FirstStrike> i was trying not to explode with rage
[09:23] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Yes. I wanted Xubuntu. I don't want GUI on DSL because I just want to use it to install (x)ubuntu.
[09:23] <NickGarvey> rage?
[09:23] <Greatmetal> i have exploded with rage
[09:23] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: ok, try getting the xubuntu alternate cd
[09:23] <{}justlearningl> I'm not sure if I should ask this here or in some windows room,  I'm running xp-64 bit and it only formats drives has ntfs(no fat32) I want to part of my drive from ntfs to fat-32, should I be able to do this in unbuntu
[09:23] <FirstStrike> cause i know he's going to be back here in a day or so after he implodes his ubuntu install
[09:23] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: The text installer won't install GUI packages? If not, I'll just apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, no?
[09:23] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: the alternate cd will install gui stuff
[09:23] <Greatmetal> AHHHH BOOOM MY STUPID WIFI CARD!!!! RARRRRR
[09:24] <NickGarvey> Flashtek: I have never used kismet..
[09:24] <NickGarvey> Flashtek: but I have a feeling it is a wireless monitoring tool
[09:24] <naa> I'll alternate cd install your stupid wifi card!
[09:24] <meathead> {}justlearningl: the short answer is: no. get a partition magic disk and do it
[09:24] <Flashtek> NickGarvey: yes it is..
[09:24] <NickGarvey> Flashtek: (I love google)
[09:24] <{}justlearningl> meathead and do it in windows
[09:25] <NickGarvey> Flashtek: I have no idea how to use gpsdrive, so I don't think I will be able to help you much
[09:25] <NickGarvey> sorry :(
[09:25] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: I don't think Xubuntu has an alternate cd. I think they only released a simple common cd. I never saw an alternate. I'll look. But, if I can install basic Ubuntu with no GUI that's okay too. That's better tahn Ubuntu with ubuntu-desktop because then I have to remove that before installing xubuntu-desktop.
[09:25] <NickGarvey> {}justlearningl: its very hard to convert ntfs into fat32
[09:25] <Greatmetal> not with a live cd
[09:25] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: let me check, I thought they did though
[09:25] <Flashtek> Does anyone else in here use kismet and gpsdrive together ??
[09:25] <Greatmetal> it has a partitioner
[09:25] <{}justlearningl> there is no info on the drive
[09:25] <wizard> Alt + F2 no longer brings up the run aplications
[09:26] <ardchoille> wizard: What did you change?
[09:26] <Flashtek> wizard: which desktop gnome, kde, xfce ?
[09:26] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/6.06.1/release.1/xubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[09:26] <Brownie> redhatter: there is a xubuntu alternate
[09:26] <wizard> ardchoille, I wish I knew.
[09:26] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: I win :)
[09:26] <wizard> Flashtek, gnome
[09:26] <{}justlearningl> i just want to be able to reformat into fat-32
[09:26] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: You do.
[09:26] <{}justlearningl> unbuntu said it does not have the right to do it
[09:27] <ardchoille> wizard: Did you install xgl or compiz?
[09:27] <wizard> ardchoille, nope.
[09:27] <Greatmetal> xgl roxxors
[09:27] <NickGarvey> {}justlearningl: you can't convert, but you can erase and create
[09:27] <{}justlearningl> it saids it cant erase
[09:27] <ardchoille> wizard: Open a terminal and type: gnome-panel-control --run-dialog
[09:28] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Now, where would I go in the mounted disk to install it from the DSL shell?
[09:28] <msoul> Hello, to have gkrellm autostart I should  put it in ~/.fluxbox/autostart.sh? gkrellm -w & ?
[09:28] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: that is where I have no idea at all, but I'm sure its a script somewhere..
[09:28] <Greatmetal> yay firefox source
[09:28] <wizard> ardchoille, command not found.
[09:29] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: I don't have the alt cd so I can't skim myself, do you know whre you would look for that kind of thing?  there might be some stuff in /etc/init.d
[09:29] <Greatmetal> AHHHH BOOOM MY STUPID WIFI CARD!!!! RARRRRR
[09:29] <ardchoille> wizard: That's why ALT+F2 doesn't work anymore.. gnome-panel-control was uninstalled ;)
[09:29] <msoul> :-)
[09:29] <wizard> ardchoille, oh.
[09:29] <wizard> ardchoille, I'll try to reinstall, then.
[09:29] <wizard> Thanks.
[09:29] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[09:30] <msoul> Hmmmmm
[09:30] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: remember to mount /proc and /dev though
[09:30] <rixth> Why the fuck does Nautilus use 100% cpu when browsing an FTP server?
[09:30] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: mount -t proc none /mnt/xubuntuiso/proc
[09:30] <ardchoille> !language
[09:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:30] <NickGarvey> !language > rixth
[09:30] <rixth> Bite me.
[09:30] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: and mount -o bind /dev /mnt/xubuntuiso/dev
[09:31] <NickGarvey> I think that was a chomp not a bite
[09:31] <ardchoille> lol
[09:31] <DBO> nuts...
[09:31] <wizard> ardchoille, says gnome-panel and gnome-control-center are the newest versions allready.
[09:32] <NickGarvey> DBO: do you have swear words as highlighting words?
[09:32] <DBO> NickGarvey, certain ones yes
[09:32] <NickGarvey> I had a feeling :)
[09:32] <ardchoille> wizard: Well, somehow gnome-panel-control isn't where it's supposed to be.
[09:32] <Greatmetal> hmm someone try it :P
[09:33] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: you know how to mount an iso?
[09:33] <ardchoille> wizard: You might try re-installing gnome-panel
[09:33] <afflux> mount -f iso9660 -o loop /path/to/iso /mount/point afaik
[09:33] <NickGarvey> what he said ^
[09:33] <NickGarvey> :)
[09:34] <afflux> oh. i havent seen the "you know"... i thought you asked
[09:34] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: GRUB is giving me GRUB error 15 when I tried to boot from the GRUB frugal install. Do you know what that is?
[09:34] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: oh boy.. one second
[09:34] <Greatmetal> i hate non working wireless
[09:34] <wizard> ardchoille, didn't change anything.  I uninstalled and reinstalled.  Still cannot access gnome-panel-control
[09:34] <vouzico> hi#
[09:34] <ardchoille> wizard: killall gnome-panel
[09:35] <ardchoille> wizard: it'll re-spawn
[09:35] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: is the kernel its looking for in the right spot?
[09:35] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Just wanted to let you know, meanwhile, that you are being a tremendous help. I really appreciate it.
[09:35] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: How do you mean? Maybe it's because before, the partition was sda1, and now it's hda1 in the other computer?
[09:37] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: :) thanks, and from what I read, error 15 means it can't find the kernel, would you be able to pastebin the grub.conf? (if you can't it would be understandable sense you don't have the system working)
[09:37] <wizard> ardchoille, Thanks for the effort.  I'll just live with it xD
[09:38] <Greatmetal> yay my firefox source is done unpacking
[09:38] <ardchoille> wizard: Well, I would advise you to re-trace your steps and try to figure out why it isn't working.
[09:38] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: I suppose. Can Windows read ext3? (I'll mount the HDD on my Windows machine. Otherwise, if Win can't, I'll boot into DSL by CD on another computer and pastebin it.)
[09:39] <timalot> why are there no changelogs anymore when the update notifies you of updated packages?
[09:39] <afflux> RadHatter: windows cant read ext3 natively, but someone wrote drivers
[09:40] <afflux> RadHatter: but dont ask me where you can find them
[09:40] <timalot> do people just bindly update ubuntu nowdays?
[09:40] <meathead> I just typed rm blah.txt, does it go to recycle bin?
[09:40] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: yes, windos can ext3
[09:40] <NickGarvey> !ext3 > RadHatter
[09:40] <meathead> can I ever recover what I just deleted?
[09:40] <msoul> Could you guys tell me how can I autostart gkrellm? (FluxBox)
[09:42] <meathead> I just typed rm blah.txt, does it go to recycle bin?
[09:42] <meathead> can I ever recover what I just deleted?
[09:45] <ardchoille> Who turned out the lights?
[09:45] <ardchoille> lol
[09:45] <Flannel> argh.  another one?
[09:46] <nick_> what just.. hat?
[09:46] <cef> seems so
[09:46] <nick_> okie then
[09:46] <Flannel> nick_: it's a netsplit.  Please keep your hands and arms inside your IRC client until it comes to a complete stop.
[09:46] <NickGarvey> Flannel: ;) I know
[09:46] <NickGarvey> just kicked in
[09:46] <ardchoille> Flannel: haha
[09:47] <NickGarvey> because I got really really bad lag
[09:47] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: I got disconnected. I see you were too. Anywho, am I retarded or something? When I mounted sda1 in a mounting point, I see nothing there. I do mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 -t ext2 and then I ls inside /mnt/sda1 but see nothing.
[09:47] <ardchoille> weeeeeee
[09:47] <Corporal_Dirge> I've been trying to get dual monitors for a few months now. I can't seem to find out what's wrong.
[09:47] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: that could be why things didn't work :)
[09:47] <davin> whoa
[09:48] <davin> bots!
[09:48] <Flannel> no, not bots.  netsplit.
[09:48] <davin> ah
[09:48] <NickGarvey> !netsplit
[09:48] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[09:48] <christina83> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[09:48] <davin> Phew
[09:49] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: But I don't even see GRUB or anything. Where did grub come from when I booted from the disk? Doesn't it have any files? Anyway, I think I'll just do a regular grub install because that worked. :) I can still install Xubuntu from there, right?
[09:49] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: grub installs to the mbr
[09:49] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: (main boot record)
[09:49] <Corporal_Dirge> Any xorg.conf experts here?
[09:49] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: um, anyway, something did NOT work with that install if tehre are no files
[09:50] <RPGBot> hi
[09:50] <vouzico> NickGarvey > Master Boot Record ;)
[09:50] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Haha. I know mbr (but only because it's Windowsy as well... I'm so pathetic). Anyway, doesn't GRUB have a config file? Well, I guess that's why GRUB wasn't happy.
[09:50] <NickGarvey> vouzico: close enough :)
[09:50] <davin> Corporal_Drige: whats your problem?
[09:50] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: yes, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:50] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: but if nothing installed.. then that won't be there.. and things will get messy
[09:51] <Corporal_Dirge> davin, I can't get dual monitors working.
[09:51] <Corporal_Dirge> davin, I've been working on it for months.
[09:51] <davin> Corporal_Dirge: Sorry, I never tried dual monitors, so I cant help you on that
[09:51] <davin> There might be someone here who knows though
[09:51] <Corporal_Dirge> davin, Doubt it.
[09:51] <RPGBot> I know this isnt probably the best place to ask, but if I have the input & output how can I figure out how it was encoded?
[09:52] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: you still with me?
[09:52] <davin> Corporal_Dirge: try #xorg
[09:52] <NickGarvey> RPGBot: I don't understand, and I suggest changing your nick to something without the word bot in it
[09:53] <NickGarvey> :)
[09:53] <dalfz> where can i read about installing fglrx ati driver?
[09:53] <XiP> ok, I have the input (let's say "001") and the output (lets say de56ffdcde9bfb2a08b7a49a67539c9c) how can i find out how something processed it?
[09:53] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: I am.
[09:53] <Flannel> XiP: you can't.  You could guess, depending on lots of things. like length, characters, etc.  but, theres no surefire way
[09:54] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: okie
[09:54] <ardchoille> !ati > dalfz
[09:54] <dalfz> thanks ardchoille
[09:54] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: ok, is anything happening?
[09:54] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[09:54] <XiP> Flannel: I could process it again with a different input, Im sure that helps...
[09:54] <avis> quite alot of things are happening at this moment, take quantium mechanics for instance
[09:54] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: The problem is, I am chatting with you on the big Windows desktop upstairs and using the laptop downstairs to install DSL on the hdd and I have the old laptop in the next room. So I keep running around the place.
[09:55] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: hehe, set up ssh yet?
[09:55] <exs> RadHatter,  then put your computers near each other
[09:55] <Flannel> XiP: right, you'll have to do quite a bit, and then quite a bit of thinking to figure out how it works.  That looks like an MD5 hash, but really most hashes look similar.
[09:56] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Right now I'm installing a regular DSL (not frugal) with GRUB.
[09:56] <RadHatter> exs: That's a grand idea.
[09:56] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: ok
[09:56] <shaantanu> !pastebin
[09:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:56] <exs> RadHatter, I know.
[09:56] <XiP> Flannel: It does indeed look like an md5 hash (that output i gave wasnt the actual output) I know theres different kinds of using md5, how does different md5 hashes differ
[09:56] <avis> hi ompaul
[09:57] <NickGarvey> XiP: md5 hashs should not differ..
[09:57] <Flannel> XiP: I'm no expert, I'm sure you could find better places (probably channels here) to ask and get better answers ;)
[09:57] <NickGarvey> XiP: thats why they are used for verifing files..
[09:57] <XiP> Flannel: any suggestions?
[09:57] <ompaul> 'lo avis
[09:57] <ardchoille> XiP: #linux ?
[09:58] <XiP> NickGarvey: Yeah i know they're used to check files, also for passwords (what im doing now)
[09:58] <Flannel> XiP: #crypto might also be a good one
[09:58] <shaantanu> guys m having a problem with my sound ... plz help me , heres my aplay --list-devices http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21266
[09:58] <NickGarvey> shaantanu: whats the problem?
[09:58] <shaantanu> no sound
[09:58] <shaantanu> :(
[09:59] <NickGarvey> shaantanu: what have you tried so far?
[09:59] <shaantanu> I tried ubuntuguide.org
[09:59] <avis> i had a question.  i thought tonight i could get into linux programming.  what i do not know is what language is most suited for me and what types of programs would be needed to coded by small companies and or larger ones.  also need the programing language to have full documentation on the web.
[09:59] <shaantanu> and changed my sound.config i guess
[10:00] <shaantanu> that caused the problem
[10:00] <RadHatter> exs: So, I just went downstairs, with the intention of moving the computers upstairs when it hit me why I didn't move them before because Iw as thinking to myself, "Why haven't I thought of moving the computers upstairs myself... oh wait, I have." The problem is I only have one ethernet cable going upstairs, the router is downstairs, and wireless won't receive upstairs because of distance from router.
[10:00] <shaantanu> I also restored the backup created ... but now m clueless
[10:00] <NickGarvey> shaantanu: try dpkg-reconfigure alsasound (or something like that)
[10:00] <shaantanu> Nick: plz gimme the exact command
[10:01] <NickGarvey> shaantanu: I don't know it
[10:01] <shaantanu> k
[10:01] <ashik> can any body help me how to localize a software?
[10:01] <NickGarvey> root__: I suggest.. not being root on irc
[10:01] <lassegs> i dont know if this is offtopic but i dont know where to go. I used gparted to format hda1, which is a NTFS partition, and now the computer wont boot. It just says "Disk Error". Help please
[10:01] <ashik> can any body help me how to localize a software?
[10:01] <NickGarvey> lassegs: you did want to delete windows right?
[10:02] <ashik> can any body help me how to localize a software?
[10:02] <RadHatter> ashik: Like, your own software that you are writing or the interface for Ubuntu and its software?
[10:02] <shaantanu> avis : If u exclusivly talking abt linux ... go for perl and python
[10:02] <shaantanu> both have tons of free documentation available
[10:03] <ompaul> back end of a netsplit methinks
[10:03] <Alex> ...wtf
[10:03] <shaantanu> wtf
[10:03] <ashik> RadHatter:  the interface for Ubuntu and its software?
[10:03] <scapor>  is fglrx broken in edgy ?  Seems it doesn't work with the xserver-xorg ABI version ?
[10:03] <shaantanu> mod do something
[10:03] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: its 4 in the morning and my mom noticed I am up heh, so I need to go, good luck, and ask someone about "chroot ubuntu installs" in the future
[10:03] <NickGarvey> good night
[10:03] <DBO> what do you want, the netsplit is rejoining shaantanu
[10:03] <ashik> RadHatter:  the interface for Ubuntu and its software?
[10:03] <ompaul> no onecan do anything for a moment
[10:03] <shaantanu> spammers are attacking the cj=hannel
[10:04] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Sure. Thanks for all the help.
[10:04] <DBO> shaantanu, no they arent, the people who got netsplitted just rejoined shaantanu
[10:04] <Nick{Away}> !netsplit > shaantanu
[10:04] <exs> RadHatter,  ahh, this is where it gets complex.. Exs recommends that you buy another ethernet cable.. God has just spoken.
[10:04] <shaantanu> ohh
[10:04] <shaantanu> I saw this for the first time
[10:04] <ompaul> we usually have over 800 in here
[10:04] <DShepherd> hehe.. 800 .. nice step from breezy usual number
[10:05] <lassegs> !netsplit > lassegs
[10:05] <scapor> !netsplit > scapor
[10:05] <RadHatter> ashik: Go into synaptic and search for the name of the language (like, say, arabic). It's gonna find packages like language-pack-ar (I think ar is the abbreviation for arabic). Install them.
[10:05] <RadHatter> Then go into language preferences and pick your language.
[10:06] <ompaul> !msgthebot
[10:06] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[10:06] <RadHatter> Or actually, if you go into language preferences and choose your language, I think it takes care of packages itself.
[10:06] <ailean> RedHatter, yes, it does
[10:07] <shaantanu> guys m having a problem with my sound ... plz help me , heres my aplay --list-devices http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21266
[10:08] <shaantanu> anybody ??
[10:08] <zac> hello
[10:09] <zac> any1 here?
[10:09] <Mementh> howdy folks.. i have some questions about ubuntu... First can i install it onto a NTFS drive.. or only a linux/fat32 drive? (is there a easy way to convert a free space to fat32/linux capable to use ubuntu?) How easy is it to setup dual booting with windows XP already installed (i don't want to jump fully) Is there a Live disk i could use?
[10:09] <KurtKraut> Mementh, only ono a Linux partition.
[10:09] <shaantanu> mementh .... check out www.ubuntu.org
[10:09] <FirstStrike> !dualboot > Mementh
[10:09] <Mementh> shaantanu i am but i did not see a FAQ imeditally
[10:10] <shaantanu> will solve most of ur probs
[10:10] <shaantanu> sorry I meant http://www.ubuntu.com/
[10:10] <Mementh> ummm
[10:10] <ahFeel_> hi :)
[10:10] <shaantanu> it has the answer to all ur questions
[10:10] <KurtKraut> Mementh, dual boot is completely easy
[10:10] <Mementh> FirstStrike page not found
[10:10] <FirstStrike> hmm
[10:10] <FirstStrike> i guess it's messed up
[10:10] <shaantanu> dual boot is easy and ubuntu auto configures it
[10:11] <ahFeel_> i have a problem with my dual screen on an nvidia card, everything's ok in fact, but i just want to change the default screen... could anybody help m ?
[10:11] <FirstStrike> if you already have windows installed on the drive you're going to need to resize the partition though
[10:11] <FirstStrike> windows by default (unless you change it during install) formats the entire drive as NTFS
[10:11] <Mementh> shaantanu how much space should i reserve for ubuntu and how to i resize my drive?
[10:11] <shaantanu> depends on ur RAM
[10:11] <Mementh> shaantanu 1 gig ram
[10:11] <shaantanu> preferably 2 * RAM shud be kept as swap
[10:12] <A-Kaser> Hi, I would like to know if it's possible to have a .ss/know_hosts with IP addres in clear and not encoded, because bash_completion don't work with encoded ?
[10:12] <shaantanu> and preferably 10 GB + shud be kept as ext3 (for linux)
[10:12] <FirstStrike> Mementh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[10:12] <Mementh> shaantanu ext3?
[10:12] <shaantanu> (the file system for linux)
[10:12] <Mementh> so i am going to need about say 15 gigs free
[10:12] <shaantanu> Mementh PM me
[10:13] <tic0> Where does ubuntu store the file that has all the top panel icon info?
[10:13] <shaantanu> guys m having a problem with my sound ... plz help me , heres my aplay --list-devices http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21266
[10:14] <tic0> I lost my top panel and need to copy the one that belongs to another user. Anyone know where the config file is?
[10:14] <poningru> Mementh: uh.. there are other clients that do irc
[10:14] <poningru> infact mirc is a pretty crappy client
[10:14] <shaantanu> GAIM for instance
[10:14] <shaantanu> its bull shit
[10:14] <Mementh> :(
[10:14] <poningru> shaantanu: eew
[10:15] <shaantanu> and is for windows only
[10:15] <Mementh> shaantanu can't msg you
[10:15] <poningru> yeah I dont like gaim either
[10:15] <ardchoille> Mementh: There's xchat, gaim, bitchx, irssi and more
[10:15] <FirstStrike> you need to register with nickservs to send PMs
[10:15] <poningru> its not really an irc client
[10:15] <FirstStrike> xchat is a great client
[10:15] <FirstStrike> another favorite is irssi
[10:15] <poningru> yeah
[10:15] <Mementh> ardchoille but... eww... i want something that i can understand already :(
[10:15] <FirstStrike> and there's no nagware in either.
[10:15] <Mementh> shaantanu i can read you but
[10:15] <FirstStrike> wait wait
[10:16] <ardchoille> Mementh: Moving to a new OS is gonna require some learning ;)
[10:16] <Mementh> FirstStrike also i bought mirc a while back
[10:16] <FirstStrike> why are you installing linux if you want something that you can understand already?
[10:16] <Mementh> ardchoille not really... i use firefox and thunderbird already
[10:16] <shaantanu> poningru : I disagree
[10:16] <FirstStrike> you're in for a whole new world. some of the apps may be the same but there are many that aren't.
[10:16] <Mementh> Firetech i want to play some.. to "dip my toe in the water"
[10:16] <shaantanu> achha leave that help me with this guys m having a problem with my sound ... plz help me , heres my aplay --list-devices http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21266
[10:16] <poningru> meh to each his own
[10:16] <FirstStrike> you need to want to learn if you're going to use linux
[10:17] <poningru> FirstStrike: meh not really
[10:17] <poningru> there isnt really much to learn
[10:17] <Mementh> Firetech my goal is to learn a bit about ubuntu and use it more and more.. eventually only needing windows for itunes and gaming
[10:17] <poningru> atleast imho
[10:17] <FirstStrike> i'm sure he knows nothing about apt-get/aptitude/dpkg/compiling from source
[10:17] <poningru> Mementh: why do you want to stick with itunes?
[10:17] <FirstStrike> that's the basics
[10:17] <poningru> FirstStrike: and he doesnt need to
[10:18] <poningru> FirstStrike: synaptic
[10:18] <poningru> or add/remove
[10:18] <Mementh> Firetech i also want to convert my other computer that i use for small web page for myself to ubuntu for more reliability
[10:18] <Mementh> poncho1 direct support for my ipod
[10:18] <poningru> those two are availble for new windows users by default
[10:18] <FirstStrike> so, what happens if synaptic breaks? what if he needs a dependency for something and it's not in synaptic?
[10:18] <FirstStrike> it's not all a cake walk
[10:18] <Mementh> is there java support in ubuntu?
[10:18] <poningru> FirstStrike: what happens if apt-get breaks?
[10:18] <FirstStrike> ...yes
[10:19] <Mementh> Firetech was that a reply to me?
[10:19] <poningru> !java
[10:19] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:19] <Mementh> lol
[10:19] <hayden> can anyone suggest a java ide i can use with ubuntu?
[10:19] <FirstStrike> poningru: such is the nature of users that don't know what they're installing. they break their OS.
[10:19] <kindor> anyone on UK line can try traceroute fs.ocompany.com please?
[10:19] <poningru> hayden: eclipse
[10:20] <Mementh> shaantanu give me a min i am regging
[10:20] <poningru> FirstStrike: I have to disagree
[10:20] <FirstStrike> just sitting in this channel i've seen so many people completely lost on even the basics.
[10:20] <tic0> can anyone help me?
[10:20] <poningru> tic0:
[10:20] <poningru> whatsup
[10:21] <tic0> i deleted my top panel from ubuntu gnome and i was wondering where the file is stored that sets all that up so i can copy the one from root
[10:21] <FirstStrike> i don't know what you're disagreeing about..but whatever. This isn't the place for it.
[10:21] <poningru> tic0: right click on the bottom panel
[10:21] <poningru> and new panel
[10:21] <tic0> yes i know how to recreate it
[10:22] <poningru> then?
[10:22] <tic0> but the original panel had some icons i cant find
[10:22] <poningru> ah... what did these icons do?
[10:22] <tic0> like network manager, nm-applet did not work
[10:22] <FirstStrike> right click on the panel
[10:22] <poningru> tic0: its under add to panel
[10:22] <FirstStrike> click Add to panel
[10:22] <poningru> FirstStrike: #bs?
[10:22] <poningru> err wrong network
[10:23] <poningru> #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:23] <poningru> ?
[10:23] <FirstStrike> not worth it.
[10:23] <Mementh> FirstStrike how do i resize a partition in windows (secondary drive) so that i have enough free space to try out ubuntu
[10:23] <tic0> i tried add to panel i do not see network manager
[10:24] <poningru> tic0: search for network monitor
[10:24] <poningru> Mementh: use a gparted livecd
[10:24] <tic0> monitor is already on the toolbar its network manager i need
[10:24] <Mementh> poningru what
[10:24] <FirstStrike> Mementh: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p3.htm
[10:24] <FirstStrike> follow that guide
[10:24] <FirstStrike> it walks you through everything
[10:25] <Mementh> k
[10:26] <poningru> ooh that is actually pretty good
[10:26] <Mementh> is there a "live cd" though of ubuntu that can be tried out?
[10:26] <Flannel> Mementh: the desktop iso
[10:26] <FirstStrike> Mementh: the iso you download off the site is the livecd
[10:26] <FirstStrike> you can choose to install it once you boot into it
[10:27] <tic0> so theres no file perhaps that stores the panel info?
[10:27] <Mementh> FirstStrike so i can just burn the CD and run it and play aroudn with ubuntu some and not have to risk the acutal installation?
[10:28] <Flannel> Mementh: right
[10:28] <FirstStrike> yeppers
[10:28] <Sethalos> Hello everyone
[10:28] <Mementh> cool..
[10:28] <FirstStrike> it'll be a little slower because it's running off the cd but you'll have all the features of the full installation
[10:28] <Mementh> is there a .torrent of the latest ubuntu ?
[10:28] <FirstStrike> you can even mount your windows drive
[10:28] <FirstStrike> yes
[10:28] <FirstStrike> there's a direct download too
[10:28] <Flannel> Mementh: yep, that download page has them
[10:29] <Mementh> FirstStrike thats ok.. i can deal with being a slight bit slow
[10:29] <Mementh> Firetech why use a direct download when i can save server bandwidth
[10:29] <Sethalos> I have a question I was hoping I could get an answer to. I'm trying to install java for an app i'm using (first time ever using Linux) and it doesn't seem to install for me..goes through the motions, but I keep getting an error that Java is not installed, I'm wondering if maybe i'm doing something wrong installing it.
[10:29] <croach> what might be wrong cause i cant lock my screen in ubuntu
[10:29] <croach> when i click the "lockthescreen" nothing happens
[10:30] <Mementh> Firetech does the "server" version also have that same live option?
[10:30] <FirstStrike> Sethalos: you can install java via synaptic
[10:30] <FirstStrike> the server version is different
[10:31] <FirstStrike> it's straight up meant for servers
[10:31] <poningru> !java > Sethalos
[10:31] <FirstStrike> i don't recommend it for you
[10:31] <Madpilot> Mementh, there's no desktop - no graphics - on the server version
[10:31] <Sethalos> Ok, let me see if i can manage to figure that out..thanks
[10:31] <poningru> Mementh: I would have to agree with FirstStrike on this
[10:31] <tic0> is there a file for the panels?
[10:32] <poningru> Sethalos: did you get the link ubotu just sent you?
[10:32] <croach> can i lockthe screen from terminal?
[10:32] <Mementh> dang.. ok i saw it had LAMP already pre-configured and thought it would be good for my old 1 ghz server computer currently doing wap
[10:32] <Sethalos> Yes, heading there now
[10:32] <DarkRain> hello?
[10:32] <DarkRain> need some help.
[10:32] <Mementh> is it easy to install apache, php, and mysql?
[10:32] <poningru> Mementh: you plan on running a lamp server from this?
[10:33] <poningru> Mementh: yes
[10:33] <prodigy60> hey all, sorry to bother everyone, was wondering if someone could give me a hand with a folder mount issue; trying to mount a folder on a ntfs partition as a cdrom device and its not going so well
[10:33] <Benny> d
[10:33] <solete> ola
[10:33] <Mementh> poningru on my 1ghz computer yes.. its currently running win2k apache and php
[10:33] <poningru> prodigy60: uh what do you mean mount as a cd device?
[10:33] <poningru> Mementh: ah
[10:33] <homerh_linux> hiya ppl compiling a new kernel it been over and hour now (pIII900) any ideas how long it will take
[10:34] <poningru> prodigy60: you mean loop?
[10:34] <DarkRain> how do you edit the grub boot loader file? I edited a partition and now I have to edit the boot parameters every time I boot up.
[10:34] <poningru> Benny: cant help if you dont ask your question
[10:34] <Mementh> poningru its only got 128 megs ram
[10:34] <poningru> Mementh: I would not try to play with live cd then
[10:35] <poningru> Mementh: just install it then... but that might be a bit frustrating.. and might be dangerous, google around for security guides to setting up such servers
[10:35] <prodigy60> poningru:  that sounds familiar, i think so... story goes i'm trying to get dvd::rip to work, and i have a folder on my win partition with all the dvd files, and would like to be able to mount the folder as the cdrom (like an iso in windows, sorta) so i can rip from it
[10:35] <Mementh> poningru explain... this computer has 1 gig ram.. its ok to play with?
[10:35] <KenSentMe> DarkRain: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:35] <dalfz> how do i setup wireless networking needing wpa_supplicant?
[10:35] <DarkRain> KenSentMe: thanks so much
[10:35] <poningru> Mementh: yeah a gig of ram is enough for live cd
[10:35] <FirstStrike> ..what?
[10:36] <dibblego> what would I use to symmetrically encrypt a file?
[10:36] <FirstStrike> prodigy60: do you already have your windows drive mounted? and what kind of file are you trying to mount?
[10:36] <Mementh> poningru i plan on getting a second hard drive to install ubuntu on ther other computer
[10:36] <triplc> hello everyone
[10:36] <Sethalos> That did the trick, thanks very much everyone!!
[10:36] <triplc> i'd like to know how to get the duo core work
[10:37] <triplc> i've install xubuntu 6.06.1
[10:37] <prodigy60> FirstStrike:  i've ripped the files in windows because of css encryption issues, but the problem is getting the files to my nix partition to be "ripped" by dvd::rip, thought about just mounting that folder as a device so i can rip from it
[10:37] <triplc> then install "linux-image-server" which has "smp"
[10:37] <DarkRain> I love the code coloring in Kwrite (used it in mepis) cant someone tell me how to either, install kwrite, or if gedit can do something similar?
[10:37] <triplc> in place of the old linux-image-686.
[10:37] <triplc> however, when i run: "htop" i can see only one cpu
[10:38] <triplc> not dual cpu bars
[10:38] <meathead> my cdrom I don't think is installed right, everytime I try to write a cd I get a IO error
[10:38] <FirstStrike> prodigy60: if you already ripped the files on windows..why don't you just copy the ripped files over to your linux drive?
[10:39] <cd> well
[10:39] <FirstStrike> well
[10:39] <prodigy60> FirstStrike:  oh, yeah, the partition is setup to auto mount, i have physical access to it, just cant figure out how to mount that folder so its recognized as a cdrom filesystem... dvd::rip is setup to rip directly from a cdrom and doesnt seem to work if it hasnt ripped files itself
[10:39] <meathead> it thinks it's installed as hdd
[10:39] <triplc> can you please help to make SMP working for dual core chip
[10:40] <FirstStrike> you're not going to be able to mount a folder as a cdrom
[10:41] <cd> anyone from China ?
[10:41] <KenSentMe> !cn > cd
[10:41] <Mementh> does anyone know of a good OPEN SOURCE CD/DVD burning program comperable to nero when it was at its best
[10:41] <croach> Can anyone help me ?
[10:41] <noiesmo> Mementh, k3b
[10:41] <debuntu> !cn
[10:41] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[10:41] <Mementh> noiesmo windows versions?
[10:41] <FirstStrike> Mementh: there's nero for linux.
[10:41] <cd> !cn
[10:42] <meathead> he said OPEN SOURCE in really capital letters
[10:42] <prodigy60> FirstStrike:  eh, no worries i guess, thanks =)
[10:42] <meathead> so he doesn't want the obvious and perfectly valid answer of use nerolinux
[10:42] <noiesmo> Mementh, no linux only
[10:42] <Mementh> darn
[10:42] <meathead> thepiratebay.org has a sale on nerolinux
[10:42] <FirstStrike> well, there's always pirating.
[10:43] <FirstStrike> that's how i got nerolinux
[10:43] <Mementh> hmmm
[10:43] <sioux> people seems that screen resolution is unstable with ubuntu. Sometimes when I boot up the system the screnn resolution goes to 640x480 and when I reboot it returns normal. More over often the gdm screen resolution is nerver stable sometimes it goes to 1024x768 and others time goes to 1280x1024. It happen to some of you too?
[10:43] <prodigy60> isnt that how everyone gets everything?
[10:43] <meathead> I bought mine from an advertisement on thepiratebay.org.
[10:43] <FirstStrike> pretty much
[10:43] <FirstStrike> otherwise, k3b is your next best bet
[10:43] <triplc> can any one please help me to make smp works for the dual core cpu. I just install xubuntu 6.06.1, then seeing that the default kernel does not support smp (using "uname -a"), i install linux-image-server. Then "uname -a" says that it has smp support. However when i run "htop", it only see 1 cpu. please help me. if i miss something, please tell me.
[10:43] <prodigy60> scrapetorrent ftw =)
[10:44] <FirstStrike> triplc: sorry, don't know anything about that.
[10:44] <FirstStrike> google is perhaps your best friend
[10:44] <DarkRain> Mementh: I second the k3b notion, I find it much more reliable, stable, faster, and easier to use then nero..
[10:45] <prodigy60> i'm out, thx for the help, night all, good luck!
[10:45] <triplc> do ubuntu have any other kernel package (instead of linux-image-server) that support SMP?
[10:45] <tic0> does anyone know the folder/file that the top panel is stored in?
[10:45] <DarkRain> noiesmo: I AGREE!
[10:46] <croach> how can i get my lock screen to work again?
[10:46] <DarkRain> in fact, k3b was one of linux's big selling points for me.
[10:46] <DarkRain> nero sucks...
[10:46] <noiesmo> FirstStrike, Well I run kde but even mates who use gnome aren't worried about a few kde bits
[10:46] <debuntu> just use cdrecord and cdrdao from the command line .. that's all k3b is a frontend to
[10:47] <noiesmo> debuntu, yes but gui's are nice
[10:47] <debuntu> you can even google the command and paste it in, i'm sure
[10:47] <sioux> darkrain nero is not free
[10:47] <SanketMedhi> debuntu: can you convert between formats on the command line? :)
[10:47] <FirstStrike> nero pretty much does the same thing. it's certainly not more difficult.
[10:47] <debuntu> not nice enough to run one only to burn cds
[10:48] <noiesmo> and when showing windows users gnu/linux the cli is the last thing they want to see it seems to scare them
[10:48] <meathead> cdrecord and cdrdao does dvd's too?
[10:48] <FirstStrike> sioux: sure it is.
[10:48] <debuntu> noiesmo, i don't care too much about scaring ppl
[10:48] <sioux> no nero require a purcias key
[10:48] <debuntu> meathead, use growisofs for dvds
[10:48] <meathead> gui's are nice because you don't have to deal with mistyping a bunch of stuff out and then going back and fixing it
[10:48] <meathead> you just check boxes
[10:48] <Mementh> yeah
[10:48] <Shubuntu> sioux: I know, I kinda regret paying for it now that I dont use it anymore.
[10:48] <sioux> you must buy a key to run for ever nero
[10:48] <dalfz> what's the best mp3 player in ubuntu? i'm used to xmms, but that's old
[10:49] <debuntu> you only have to type it right once and save it to a file
[10:49] <meathead> ahh, so to replace nerolinux you use cdrdao, cdrecord, growisofs. three for one deal.
[10:49] <FirstStrike> sioux: or download the key.
[10:49] <meathead> that's not confusing at all
[10:49] <debuntu> then you could easily make it into an executable script and type the name of the script
[10:49] <sioux> firststrike to download the key you must pay
[10:49] <FirstStrike> lol
[10:49] <sioux> rigth?
[10:50] <FirstStrike> not if you're pirating it
[10:50] <debuntu> meathead, yeah, not confusing .. about as confusing as selecting menus in nero
[10:50] <Shubuntu> Dalfz: I like Kaffine, but keep in mind you need to install the restricted codec packs for mp3 to work in ubuntu.
[10:50] <sioux> why I need pirating when k3b does the same for free?
[10:50] <FirstStrike> that's fine for you
[10:51] <meathead> yeah man, totally. three programs. all with equally confusing names alone. why install simple gui and use it intuitively when you could read three man pages for three different programs to learn how to use them
[10:51] <sioux> k3b works fine with kde, now I getting some problem with ubuntu
[10:51] <Shubuntu> I hated nero on windows, and I see no reason to try it on linux
[10:51] <meathead> way easier
[10:51] <meathead> infact, what am I doing here. I'm gonna go read man pages
[10:51] <meathead> later
[10:52] <FirstStrike> it's pretty simplified. i mean..burn image or..copy folders and burn.
[10:52] <FirstStrike> if it was freeware i'm sure a bunch of people would be using it
[10:52] <Shubuntu> Ive got another question: does anyone know of a program that will convert my entire media library (mp3) into something a little more linux friendly like OGG?
[10:53] <muhammad> heey i hv prob ihv deleted the oem accoun by chance and now am not able to login with this account agian i tried to create it again but it gives me error message
[10:53] <sioux> to my oppinion k3b miss only in two things: 1 - cancel DVD as it for CD; 2 - Create a bootable cd or DVD
[10:53] <FirstStrike> why do people delete things for no reason?
[10:53] <debuntu> why read man pages when you could google it .. someone else has done the hard work already
[10:53] <muhammad> how can i backup it i hv the /home/oem  folder i want create user with that /home/oem how can i do that ?
[10:53] <Shubuntu> Firststrike: thats not so bad, I once got a tech support call about someone who deleted the windows folder... god knows how they did that.
[10:54] <kestas> are SATA HDDs compatible with non-SATA computers?
[10:54] <FirstStrike> ...
[10:54] <martii> hi i installed XGL on nvidia and alt-tab windows switching stopped working
[10:54] <meathead> muhammad: boot the desktop cd and mount your OS as the partition, then type passwd to change the root password
[10:54] <martii> any clue what's wrong?
[10:54] <martii> !xgl
[10:54] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:54] <meathead> kestas: no
[10:54] <kestas> Shubuntu: I had a friend that moved his windows folder into his start menu
[10:54] <FirstStrike> kestas: did you even read what you typed? :>
[10:54] <Shubuntu> Kestas: ouch.
[10:54] <kestas> FirstStrike: I thought maybe they were backwards compatible, like EIDE, it's not so ridiculous if you don't already know
[10:54] <muhammad> meathead u mean the alternate cd ?
[10:55] <FirstStrike> you need a mobo that supports sata
[10:55] <kestas> I see
[10:55] <FirstStrike> i believe there are converters you can use though
[10:55] <Shubuntu> Ive heard a legend of someone who decided that she should organize all the windows folder files
[10:55] <FirstStrike> but i don't have all the details
[10:55] <meathead> muhammad: I mean the live cd
[10:56] <chemaja> Shubuntu, my dumbass friend managed to delete his XP install's system32 folder
[10:56] <meathead> muhammad: any live linux cd
[10:56] <chemaja> Shubuntu, s/friend/colleague
[10:56] <muhammad> meathead oke
[10:56] <chemaja> quick, someone convince me not to install fedora
[10:56] <damian_> I need help
[10:56] <chemaja> im like a crack addict that has to try new distros
[10:56] <Shubuntu> Chemaja. DONT TOUCH THAT... EW!
[10:56] <chemaja> i need rehab
[10:57] <ompaul> chemaja, don't do it, it is not what you want, we have a better type here
[10:57] <Shubuntu> Chemaga, its unstable, evil, slow, and for fux sake its a redhat product.
[10:57] <chemaja> Shubuntu, heh
[10:57] <Madpilot> Is there a secure deletion method that works with ext3 formatting?
[10:57] <kestas> chemaja: in the linux arena rhel is where the money is
[10:57] <chemaja> Shubuntu, the thing that annoys me about Ubuntu is they unnecessarily change upstream (cite: the custom logout dialog) -- what's with that?
[10:57] <dalfz> isn't the opera browser a part of ubuntu packages?
[10:57] <kestas> chemaja: so it's work learning fedora
[10:57] <Mementh> can anyone tell me why its safe for linux to re-size a NTFS drive but not safe for it to write to it?
[10:58] <chemaja> kestas, "work"? -- fedora's pretty easy IMHO
[10:58] <Madpilot> dalfz, it's installable - use Add/Remove Apps and search for Opera
[10:58] <kestas> chemaja: s/work/worth/
[10:58] <dalfz> aye, thanks
[10:58] <Shubuntu> chemaja: I havnt been able to get anything newer then core 4 to boot.
[10:58] <Shubuntu> chemaja, and it was terribly slow and buggy.
[10:58] <chemaja> Shubuntu, really? on what h/w?
[10:59] <chemaja> i should just be quiet and learn how to un-mangle Ubuntu's custom hacks -- or just ignore it
[10:59] <chemaja> *sighs*
[10:59] <meathead> how do you list your cdroms in console?
[10:59] <Madpilot> Shubuntu & chemaja - chat about other distros can move to #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere, please
[10:59] <chemaja> (or prowl the dev lists for reasoning as to the change)
[10:59] <chemaja> Madpilot, aye-aye
[10:59] <meathead> I think mine is installed as the wrong thing
[11:00] <Shubuntu> Madpilot, just keeping the populace with ubuntu. :P
[11:00] <Shubuntu> hehe.
[11:00] <YogSothoth> I'm still stuck with my dualscreen setup :-) Can you have a look here?? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1402664#post1402664
[11:00] <duckdown> Hey all... Got a question...  I run 2 computers here at home, one of them is Windows (Blech), and one obviously Ubuntu..  Both are on the same router, and both systems have programs that require ident responses (Secured sites)..  I can only open port 113 on one computer, and if I run an identd daemon here on Ubuntu then the Windows machine can't see/respond to ident requests.  What is the solution here?
[11:00] <ikonia> Hello Ubuntu'ers. Could someone with dvb-apps install please make the file "uk-Mendip" availble for me to check my configuration against
[11:01] <dalfz> Madpilot: i'm trying to search for it in synaptic package manager, is that ok? I can't find "opera" though.
[11:01] <chemaja> was the Quit dialog custom in Breezy too?
[11:02] <jujimufu> I try to install the i810 drivers from dri.freedesktop.org and I get this error:
[11:02] <Madpilot> dalfz, I think it's only installable thru Add/Remove, for some odd reason
[11:02] <dibblego> how do I modify a user so that they do not have sudo privileges?
[11:02] <jujimufu> The DRI drivers can not be installed without the latest kernel modules.
[11:02] <jujimufu> Installation will be aborted. See the dri.log file for information on
[11:02] <jujimufu> what went wrong.
[11:02] <jujimufu> and in the dri.log file it says "no kernel configuration file found"
[11:02] <meathead> change the port from 113
[11:02] <Madpilot> chemaja, I think so; I liked the Breezy one better, really. Dapper's logout box  is so massive...
[11:02] <duckdown> meathead> but aren't ident requests only sent to 113?
[11:03] <Shubuntu> Chemaja, how do you customize the quit box?
[11:03] <bjorn-> When I download the latest version of Opera I get the package manager .. however, I cannot update it cause it conflicts with my existing installation .. how do I remove the existing one? Can't find Opera in the Applications -> Add/Remove tool
[11:04] <chemaja> Shubuntu, i have *no* idea. i'm currently trawling ubuntu-desktop mailling list for reasons why they felt the need to change it
[11:04] <Madpilot> bjorn-, it should be there... the Ubuntu .deb from Opera's download site works nicely too, though.
[11:04] <meathead> duckdown: I don't know, but that's the only POSSIBLE solution I see to the problem, maybe you can change it
[11:04] <meathead> who cares about ident?
[11:04] <duckdown> They're required on secured FTP sites
[11:05] <duckdown> things like glftpd need ident responses
[11:05] <meathead> oh
[11:05] <meathead> i see
[11:05] <duckdown> :(  Thanks for the suggestion
[11:06] <Joshbeat> whats the best FPS game for Ubuntu
[11:06] <dalfz> Madpilot: it doesn't appear in add/remove either. i have ubuntu 6.06 dapper, what do you have?
[11:06] <chemaja> kestas, yea we use RHEL3 at work which i do support under
[11:06] <chemaja> whoops sorry Madpilot
[11:06] <Joshbeat> whats the best FPS game for Ubuntu
[11:06] <fyre|work> tremulous
[11:06] <duckdown> Joshbeat> don't repeat
[11:06] <Madpilot> dalfz, same. Grab the deb from Opera's download site, that runs fine
[11:06] <Joshbeat> FIrst PersonShooter game for Ubuntu
[11:07] <duckdown> Joshbeat> And you mean the best game for Linux, why would it be ubuntu specific
[11:07] <Joshbeat> FIrst PersonShooter game for Ubuntu
[11:07] <duckdown> ok shut up
[11:07] <Joshbeat> sory
[11:07] <Shubuntu> I have a wierd partition problem at the moment. partition magic (via windows) rearranged all my partition numbers when I resized the extended partition. For the most part it works, except a few bugs, like grub (which I fixed), but now, its detecting my fat32 drive as a swap (I guess ptmagic switched thier partition numbers) as well as detecting the swap drive. how do I make it... well detect...
[11:07] <Shubuntu> ...it as fat?
[11:07] <dalfz> Madpilot: yes thanks
[11:07] <raal> Joshbeat:Quake3
[11:07] <Shubuntu> and not boot as such
[11:07] <duckdown> Joshbeat> Enemy Territory
[11:07] <duckdown> or quake 3
[11:07] <duckdown> or doom 3
[11:07] <Joshbeat> ok.
[11:07] <raal> and Q4
[11:07] <Joshbeat> counterstrike>
[11:07] <meathead> or lock'yer cock, shoot'em up 4
[11:07] <duckdown> ya Q4 too
[11:08] <duckdown> no counter-strike
[11:08] <meathead> counter strike is windows only
[11:08] <avis> i am curious.  i found a linux+ training cd on ebay for $13.  i was thinking python and perl scripting would be a better way to get my foot in the door and make a little money however i'm not finding any resources for perl/python training cd's and am really unsure which path might lead to a viable source of small monetary compensation.
[11:08] <Talisker[w] > how do I add a new enviroment to the gnome session menager?
[11:08] <FirstStrike> uhh
[11:09] <FirstStrike> CS runs on wine
[11:09] <Joshbeat> i have a built in webcam on my laptop...how can i make it work
[11:09] <FirstStrike> i've run half life 1/2 and mods for both just dandy
[11:09] <duckdown> He asked about a Linux native game
[11:09] <duckdown> The best "FPS for linux"
[11:09] <bjorn-> Madpilot: the .deb from opera was the one I downloaded when I got the conflict ..
[11:09] <FirstStrike> well..umm...Cube? :P
[11:09] <Joshbeat> yup...i cant make wine works
[11:09] <FirstStrike> although there's no servers
[11:09] <duckdown> Cube bla
[11:10] <duckdown> *blah
[11:10] <hayden> FirstStrike, have you played any games via Steam on ubuntu?
[11:10] <Madpilot> bjorn-, it should let you install the downloaded one anyway, just ignore it when it complains
[11:10] <FirstStrike> i play natural selection (half life 1 mod), half life 2, half life 2 deathmatch and saga of ryzom.
[11:10] <FirstStrike> saga of ryzom isn't steam though
[11:10] <FirstStrike> it's an mmorpg
[11:10] <solete> hello
[11:11] <FirstStrike> i played doom 3 through on linux
[11:11] <finalbeta> avis, CBT has video training for pyhton perl bash etc
[11:11] <hayden> FirstStrike, do you paly NS and HL2 via Steam on linux?
[11:11] <FirstStrike> yep..
[11:11] <raal> can i play the WoW on ubuntu?
[11:11] <FirstStrike> steam runs fine
[11:11] <meathead> cs runs cs yeah
[11:11] <solete> puede cnt alguien
[11:11] <FirstStrike> WoW will run with a lot of tweaking
[11:11] <meathead> cedega <---- windows games on linux
[11:11] <bjorn-> Madpilot: yeah, I'd do that if it hadn't grayed out the install button ;) .. seems like I need to remove the old installation of Opera, so something must be .. hmm, not right.
[11:11] <solete> in sphain
[11:11] <FirstStrike> meathead: wine runs them too now.
[11:11] <Joshbeat> is cedega better than wine>
[11:11] <FirstStrike> i play saga of ryzom in wine
[11:12] <FirstStrike> and half life runs in it as well
[11:12] <hayden> FirstStrike, how would i go about installing steam?
[11:12] <Madpilot> bjorn-, can you pastebin your sources.list for me, please?
[11:12] <bjorn-> sure
[11:12] <raal> cedega is not a free software?
[11:12] <meathead> FirstStrike: wine has always run games in linux, just really really badly, with a lot of tweaking...
[11:12] <FirstStrike> well, get yourself a copy of cedega. if you want the best performance (in this case, cedega still runs steam a bit better than wine..but won't be so for much longer)
[11:12] <Madpilot> raal, no
[11:12] <hayden> FirstStrike, ok
[11:13] <FirstStrike> meathead: saga of ryzom runs perfectly for me with full sound and such. i just had to install the 2.6.17 kernel.
[11:13] <raal> how to get cedega?
[11:13] <FirstStrike> and that was only for the sound
[11:13] <meathead> cedega actually runs worse than wine, I can tell for first hand, since I pay monthly for cedega and run wine
[11:13] <croach> e could anyone help me?
[11:13] <FirstStrike> i've had better results with cedega running half life 2 than with wine
[11:13] <meathead> it just takes a day and a half to figure out how to properly configure wine
[11:13] <homerh_linux> hiya ppl can i use the live cd and compile my kernel on my faster pc and just copy it over
[11:13] <FirstStrike> with other things, wine has been superior
[11:13] <FirstStrike> it's up in the air right now
[11:14] <raal> does wine or cedega can be installed via apt-get?
[11:14] <meathead> cedega themselves admits that their platform for running stuff like FPS games it's usually really bad because they use the safe way and not the fast way
[11:14] <FirstStrike> you can get wine
[11:14] <jatt> I wonder how fast do games run with cedega. With an Athlon XP 3800+, playing supernintendo games with snes9x uses 100% cpu all the time :(
[11:14] <FirstStrike> cedega is $5 a month
[11:14] <FirstStrike> or you can pirate it
[11:14] <meathead> sudo apt-get install wine
[11:14] <chops-> sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev is this the correct command for installing that ?
[11:15] <dalfz> could someone please point me to xgl installation howto?
[11:15] <dalfz> for dapper
[11:15] <frying_fish> chops-: yes, but you could use aptitude rather tahn apt-get its better.
[11:15] <homerh_linux> whts video card you got
[11:16] <FirstStrike> dalfz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[11:16] <Madpilot> bjorn-, on your sources.list, you should have "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main" to get Opera & the other stff
[11:16] <dalfz> homerh_linux: ati radeon 9700
[11:16] <Madpilot> s/stff/stuff
[11:16] <chops-> when i tried that command it said it couldn't find the package
[11:16] <frying_fish> chops-: well then the package doesn't exist
[11:16] <homerh_linux> dalfx just follow the link firestriek gave u
[11:16] <chops-> it worked last night
[11:17] <dalfz> thanks :)
[11:17] <bjorn-> Mad: http://pastebin.ca/142159
[11:17] <bjorn-> Madpilot i meant..
[11:17] <Mandalf> Hi all
[11:17] <Mandalf> Im sitting in a terminal
[11:18] <Mandalf> i want to install a FTP-server
[11:18] <Mandalf> huw to do that?
[11:18] <poopsock> can anyone give me any pointers on installing ubuntu on a second disc.... i keep getting error loading operating system after install
[11:18] <bjorn-> Madpilot: ok, adding the commercial source ...
[11:18] <summet>  my mail to hotmail is going to junkbox why any idea ?
[11:19] <Mandalf> !ftp
[11:19] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[11:19] <linux_user400354> should i round to cylinders when creating partitions?
[11:19] <Madpilot> bjorn-, take the # off the beginnings of line 36 & 37 in that paste, add the commercial source, then update. You should get Opera then.
[11:19] <Shubuntu> heyo, I am wanting to convert my media drive to something more linux friendly then ntfs is there anyway of doing this without copying 220 gigs of data off the drive, wiping, and repartitioning?
[11:19] <kestas> Shubuntu: 'fraid not
[11:19] <Shubuntu> ick...
[11:19] <Shubuntu> ...
[11:19] <Shubuntu> hmm
[11:19] <Shubuntu> icky.
[11:19] <SanketMedhi> hi Shubuntu
[11:19] <kestas> Shubuntu: plus it'll be hard to find a format which can store so much data but works with windows and linux
[11:20] <Mandalf> !config
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <lostsync_> i want to roll back all of my dbus-related packages to the ones officially supplied by ubuntu, because they were changed by the BMPx repos, but trying to unmark it in synaptic is going to uninstall a TON of things...how can i get around this?
[11:20] <Mandalf> !configure
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about configure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <bjorn-> Madpilot: ok, I'll try that. Thanks for helping out :)
[11:20] <Mandalf> Hmm
[11:20] <Madpilot> bjorn-, np
[11:20] <Shubuntu> Kestas: dont really care about windows anymore. it can bite me. only using it for the occasional game
[11:20] <Mandalf> Huw to set up acconts on vsftpd in terminal
[11:20] <Mandalf> ???
[11:20] <SanketMedhi> Shubuntu: games can also be played on Ubuntu without much pain now
[11:20] <linux_user400354> Mandalf:  adduser
[11:21] <kestas> SanketMedhi: yeah.. not much
[11:21] <SanketMedhi> kestas: ?
[11:21] <kestas> if you know the intricacies of WINE and DirectX
[11:21] <SanketMedhi> kestas: oh ok
[11:21] <Shubuntu> SanketMedhi, I am Shubuntu, or D. Shaw, not the one your looking for. that aside. EXPLAIN TO ME the ways of linux gaming
[11:21] <SanketMedhi> kestas: why Directx?
[11:21] <Mandalf> linux_user400354: Huw to du that in the program?
[11:22] <Mandalf> linux_user400354: Im new in terminal
[11:22] <tnzr> does the ipw2200 not support monitored mode?
[11:22] <Shubuntu> last I looked into it, linux gaming via wine was incredibly slow and buggy.
[11:22] <kestas> SanketMedhi: so that you can port the appropriate directx calls to WINE when your game invariably tries to use a call which isn't supported or breaks
[11:22] <linux_user400354> Mandalf: you are making no sense.
[11:22] <SanketMedhi> Shubuntu: ok sorry, go to linux-gamers.net
[11:22] <Shubuntu> but that was like 6 years ago
[11:22] <Mandalf> !vsftpd
[11:22] <ubotu> vsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 107 kB, installed size 404 kB
[11:22] <cynikal> shubuntu: no, but ntfs is very linux friendly if you are just reading files from the partition. Its writing files thats usually an issue, and now the only problem is how slow it is for large files.
[11:22] <SanketMedhi> kestas: uhh ok
[11:22] <Mandalf> linux_user400354: ?
[11:23] <linux_user400354> Mandalf: ?
[11:23] <Mandalf> linux_user400354: Whad do you mean
[11:23] <maxx03> hello there.. can anyone tell me how to defrag an ext3 drive from ubuntu?
[11:24] <Shubuntu> cynikal. I would kind of like acess to my largest drive... so basically I need to find some way to back it all up. OR do a very slow time wasting process of creating and resizing partitions?
[11:24] <fdoving> maxx03: you don't need to.
[11:24] <Mandalf> linux_user400354: What*
[11:24] <linux_user400354> i mean what i say. what do you not understand about it.
[11:24] <frogzoo> maxx03: entirely unnecessary
[11:24] <maxx03> fdoving, really? i just had the check after 30 mounts and it said it had 1.9 non-continuous or something
[11:25] <Shubuntu> frogzoo & fdoving, ive wondered about this, why dont you need to?
[11:25] <cynikal> shubuntu: well what exactly do you need access for? Listening to music that you saved on that hard drive?
[11:25] <Joshbeat> i suggest playing native games in ubuntu..
[11:25] <Joshbeat> dont use wine..
[11:25] <frogzoo> Shubuntu: the ext algorithm automatically reallocates to avoid fragmentation
[11:25] <frogzoo> Joshbeat: wine works perfectly for some games - get WoW
[11:25] <cynikal> I second joshbeat's advice
[11:25] <Joshbeat> wow?
[11:26] <cynikal> there are some great unreal mods out there
[11:26] <maxx03> at the risk of being unpopular, i would suggest that windows is better for games... that's why i dual boot
[11:26] <cynikal> World of Warcraft
[11:26] <jujimufu> Joshbeat: World of Warcraft
[11:26] <Shubuntu> cynikal, well its a 300 gig drive for all my media, 220 of it is full. it is also the biggest drive in my computer, and I do need to read and write to it. I would prefer to use windows as little as possible.
[11:26] <frogzoo> s/get/eg.
[11:26] <Joshbeat> i agree with maxx
[11:26] <gnube> Is there an official way to get older (in this case, more stable) software onto the machine with apt?
[11:26] <Joshbeat> ok juji
[11:26] <Shubuntu> frogzoo, makes sense... wonder why windows is still retarded... nevermind dont need to answer that.
[11:26] <jujimufu> Joshbeat: also, there is Cedega, which supports around 70% of windows games - installation and running them.
[11:26] <Joshbeat> wow native 4 ubuntu
[11:26] <jujimufu> Joshbeat: but you have to like, pay. But it's worth it :)
[11:26] <cynikal> Shubuntu: How large would the files be? (the ones you are writing to the windows partition)
[11:26] <frogzoo> !appdb
[11:26] <ubotu> Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[11:27] <raal> how to install cedega
[11:27] <gnube> We need to use python2.3-mysqldb because the latest version of python-mysqldb has an ascii decoding error.
[11:27] <Joshbeat> wow native 4 ubuntu?
[11:27] <jujimufu> raal: buy it?
[11:27] <linux_user400354> whats the best brand of sata-1 controllers for ubuntu?
[11:27] <Shubuntu> cynikal: I have several dvd backups on there and isos that are over 2 gigs, so fat is out of the question
[11:27] <raal> jujimufu:is not free?
[11:27] <frogzoo> !hardware > linux_user400354
[11:27] <FirstStrike> raal: it's $5 a month
[11:28] <Shubuntu> FirstStike, but how well does it run the games?
[11:28] <FirstStrike> i run half life 2 deathmatch at 50 fps in cedega
[11:28] <avis> i am curious since ubuntu is based on debian what do ubuntu users think of debian ?
[11:28] <Shubuntu> Firststrike, is it as good or better then windows, because really 20 gigs for a windows game partition isnt that much nowadays.
[11:28] <Joshbeat> WoW is native 4 ubuntu?
[11:28] <FirstStrike> Josh
[11:28] <FirstStrike> No
[11:28] <raal> Joshbeat:no
[11:28] <Joshbeat> ok
[11:29] <raal> Joshbeat:only windows and Mac
[11:29] <FirstStrike> Shubuntu: it's about as good as windows. I have no issues running it.
[11:29] <Joshbeat> ill go for Wolfenstein
[11:29] <Joshbeat> thnks raal
[11:29] <Shubuntu> joshbeat, it supposedly works through cedega
[11:29] <cynikal> wow happens to run better than most games because it uses opengl
[11:29] <jes-o-mat> I'm building my own kernel-* packages using make-kpkg. afterwards my /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build symlink always points to the directory where I've build my packges, but it should point to the /usr/src/kernel-headers-`uname -r` directory. What am I doning wrong?
[11:29] <cynikal> as opposed to directx, which I dont think is even fully supported by wine
[11:29] <Joshbeat> ok
[11:30] <Joshbeat> i have a built in webcam on my laptop...how can i make it work?
[11:30] <Shubuntu> firststrike: how good is the game library for support, I tend to play RTS and RPG niether are extremly mainstream.
[11:30] <tibbe> is it possible to switch between a laptop screen and an external monitor with different resolution?
[11:30] <FirstStrike> it depends on the game. go read the cedega forums and you'll get an idea.
[11:30] <FirstStrike> there's also a wiki for wine that lists games that works with that.
[11:31] <Shubuntu> firststrike, for it to be worth it to me, it would need to run dawn of war, rise of legends, fear, halflife2/steam, and heroes V
[11:31] <Shubuntu> the games I am playing at the moment via my windows partition
[11:31] <FirstStrike> fear won't run in either cedega or wine at the moment
[11:31] <FirstStrike> steam and half life 2 run fine
[11:31] <FirstStrike> i can't speak for the rest
[11:31] <Shubuntu> firststrike: not a big deal... played through it already...
[11:31] <raal> is wine a free software?
[11:31] <FirstStrike> yes
[11:32] <SanketMedhi> Shubuntu: all games using Steam run perfectly on Ubuntu
[11:32] <FirstStrike> didn't we go over this already raal?
[11:32] <Shubuntu> allright then...
[11:32] <Joshbeat> native or with wine?
[11:32] <FirstStrike> jesus
[11:32] <Shubuntu> funny
[11:32] <cynikal> shubuntu: here is the supported games database for cedega http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/
[11:32] <FirstStrike> WITH WINE
[11:32] <SanketMedhi> Shubuntu: games from IDSoft run natively on Linux
[11:32] <SanketMedhi> yes
[11:32] <FirstStrike> there's no native steam games
[11:32] <Madpilot> raal, for the 2nd time, no it is not free.
[11:32] <Shubuntu> cynikal, thanks!
[11:32] <cynikal> np :)
[11:32] <SanketMedhi> Firyes, using Wine
[11:32] <SanketMedhi> oops
[11:32] <Joshbeat> can any1 right to them to make a native for Ubuntu.
[11:32] <Joshbeat> i love CS
[11:32] <SanketMedhi> FirstStrike: using wine, yes
[11:32] <Madpilot> raal, gah, sorry, yes wine is free, cegega isn't...
[11:32] <Joshbeat> write
[11:32] <SanketMedhi> Joshbeat: me too :P
[11:33] <Joshbeat> CS is really good.
[11:33] <FirstStrike> good luck
[11:33] <SanketMedhi> Joshbeat: that is not possible
[11:33] <Joshbeat> why
[11:33] <FirstStrike> CS runs fine on nix though..i don't see what the big deal is.
[11:33] <cynical> actually no it doesnt
[11:33] <cynical> imho
[11:33] <FirstStrike> it depends on your PC..i've had no issues with any HL2 mods
[11:33] <SanketMedhi> Joshbeat: because its not Free
[11:33] <Joshbeat> cs source is free
[11:33] <cynical> it doesnt feel right to me
[11:34] <Joshbeat> from steam
[11:34] <SanketMedhi> try America's Army
[11:34] <SanketMedhi> its native and gr8
[11:34] <cynical> its playable I guess, but I'd have to wait for the linux ventrilo client before I'd switch
[11:34] <Joshbeat> AA is not that fast as the cs
[11:34] <SanketMedhi> Joshbeat: AA is heavy on grafix
[11:35] <exs> System76 looks very attractive to me... but I live in the UK. Is this possible?
[11:35] <FirstStrike> cynical: what processor/ram/graphics card do you have?
[11:35] <Joshbeat> ill switch if cs is ready/ dualboot XP and Ubunt
[11:35] <SanketMedhi> ?
[11:35] <Joshbeat> any1 playing CS
[11:35] <FirstStrike> ...
[11:35] <SanketMedhi> Joshbeat: go to linux-gamers.net and chk their How-to on Half-Life/Steam
[11:35] <fdoving> Shubuntu: ext3 is self healing, it calculates and allocate disk space on the fly. That prevents files from beeing written in pieces. So defragmentation could be possible with a downgrade to ext2, but it would be dangerous and completely unnecessary.
[11:35] <cynical> firststrike: I'm using a Core 2 Duo E6300 / 1GB 667mhz DDR2 / MSI 6600GT
[11:36] <FirstStrike> okey
[11:36] <Joshbeat> thnks sanke
[11:36] <Shubuntu> can Cedega be found via torrent for evaluation purposes?
[11:36] <cynical> I cant even use my cdrom drive because of that damn jmicron controller. Intel, why hadst thou forsaken me?
[11:37] <FirstStrike> Shubuntu: yep..
[11:37] <FirstStrike> search for 5.2.3 and the 5.2.4 engine
[11:37] <Shubuntu> FirstStrike: I may be cheap... but If a company makes a product worth my money, they get it. :P
[11:37] <shaantanu> !pastebin
[11:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:37] <FirstStrike> good luck
[11:38] <SanketMedhi> hi shaantanu
[11:38] <shaantanu> hi
[11:38] <jujimufu> has anyone worked wiht xaamp?
[11:38] <SanketMedhi> jujimufu: yes
[11:39] <Joshbeat> thanks sanket
[11:39] <Joshbeat> its F.E.A.R. good?
[11:39] <Joshbeat> is F.E.A.R. good?
[11:40] <FirstStrike> yes
[11:40] <FirstStrike> to a point
[11:40] <SanketMedhi> Joshbeat: np
[11:40] <SanketMedhi> Joshbeat: FEAR?
[11:40] <FirstStrike> and no, it won't run under linux
[11:40] <SanketMedhi> Joshbeat: what is that?
[11:40] <shaantanu> I screwed up my alsa ... now I dont have any sound in my system and no alsa mixer in sound preferences . Heres my  aplay--list-devices. Plz temme what to do http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21266
[11:40] <FirstStrike> SanketMedhi: an FPS/horror game for windows
[11:40] <cynical> fear multiplayer was just released for free
[11:41] <FirstStrike> and still doesn't run under linux~
[11:41] <Joshbeat> FPS games also..
[11:41] <cynical> my bro was going to try running it in cedega on suse to see if it was ok
[11:41] <Shubuntu> Does anyone have any idea how to make my pioneer 110 play all regions?
[11:41] <FirstStrike> i already tried it on wine and cedega
[11:41] <FirstStrike> no dice on either
[11:41] <Joshbeat> 1ststrike wat do u mean
[11:41] <FirstStrike> in wine it tells me my graphic card isn't supported and in cedega it doesn't start up at all
[11:42] <SanketMedhi> FirstStrike: check http://appdb.winehq.org/
[11:42] <FirstStrike> it's listed as unsupported SanketMedhi
[11:42] <FirstStrike> i've been there, done that
[11:42] <SanketMedhi> ok
[11:43] <shaantanu> any body ?? saw my pastebin ?
[11:43] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: I did
[11:43] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: but I can't figure it out :P
[11:43] <SanketMedhi> sorry
[11:43] <shaantanu> :D
[11:43] <linux_user400354> shaantanu: run alsaconf
[11:43] <chops-> for some reason make is not working
[11:43] <FirstStrike> post on the forums or google it shaantanu
[11:43] <cynical> strike do you have a 6800gs?
[11:43] <FirstStrike> cynical: yes
[11:43] <shaantanu> ohk
[11:43] <cynical> heh found your post, ah well
[11:43] <jujimufu> SanketMedhi: Ive installed it and runned it, and when I run e107's install.php script to install the cms on my PC, it says it can't open it
[11:43] <cynical> maybe we'll get support soon
[11:44] <SanketMedhi> linux_user400354: there is no alsaconf on my system
[11:44] <shaantanu> linux_user400354: wait i'll do that
[11:44] <FirstStrike> i doubt it
[11:44] <linux_user400354> shaantanu: i mean alsamixer sorry
[11:44] <cynical> they do have polls for this kind of thing
[11:44] <Joshbeat> sanket do u play cs
[11:44] <FirstStrike> i know saga of ryzom is getting better cedega support though.
[11:44] <FirstStrike> the people over at ryzom did a code drop to cedega
[11:44] <shaantanu> ok
[11:44] <FirstStrike> but it already runs fine for me in wine
[11:44] <SanketMedhi> jujimufu: by xampp you mean apache+mysql+php?
[11:44] <SanketMedhi> jujimufu: how did you install it?
[11:44] <chops-> can anyone think why my make command wont work last time i needed "sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev" but now it doesn't seem to want to install that
[11:45] <SanketMedhi> !buildutils
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildutils - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:45] <SanketMedhi> chops-: you might need to install the buildutils package
[11:45] <linux_user400354> chops-: you need the build-essentials package
[11:45] <chops-> i done the build-essentials
[11:45] <FirstStrike> chops-: did you already install libncurses5-dev?
[11:45] <chops-> nope
[11:46] <chops-> thats the next one i need
[11:46] <SanketMedhi> ok sorry build-essentials it is
[11:46] <homerh_linux> hiya compileing new kernel and it just said building stage 2 now it been 2and a half hours so far how long d you reacon
[11:46] <npster> What was the keyborard keys that you needed to press in order to restart X ?
[11:46] <npster> were
[11:46] <linux_user400354> control alt backspace
[11:46] <shaantanu> linux_user:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21273
[11:46] <npster> thx
[11:47] <FirstStrike> x has a tendancy to restart sometimes if you do that
[11:47] <FirstStrike> i just do killall gdm
[11:47] <linux_user400354> shaantanu: what did you do to screw up alsa?
[11:47] <shaantanu> i follwed up a tutorial in ubuntuguide.org
[11:47] <shaantanu> in hope of better sound
[11:47] <shaantanu> :(
[11:47] <shaantanu> and I got no sound
[11:48] <jujimufu> SanketMedhi: I downloaded the sources, followed the instructions (copied the /opt etc), and then I ran /opt/laamp/laamp start and it started everything. http://localhost was working fine
[11:48] <FirstStrike> note to new users: make backups of every file you change if you're doing something for the first time.
[11:48] <chops-> i get this error "WARNING **** curses not found"
[11:48] <shaantanu> I made a backup firestriker
[11:48] <linux_user400354> shaantanu: remove alsa and be sure to remove configuration files when by using using this option in apt-get --purge. then install alsa again and see if that fixes it.
[11:49] <linux_user400354> shaantanu: hopefully you made a backup of any files you corrupted when following that guide
[11:49] <SanketMedhi> !xampp
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xampp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:49] <SanketMedhi> !xamp
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xamp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:49] <SanketMedhi> umm
[11:49] <shaantanu> apt-get install alsa will help ??
[11:49] <Ng> !lamp
[11:49] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:49] <ROAD-KING> HI ALL
[11:49] <FirstStrike> if you didn't uninstall it then probably not
[11:49] <FirstStrike> it's just broke; not gone
[11:50] <linux_user400354> shaantanu: sudo apt-get remove --purge nameofalsapackages  and then do sudo apt-get install nameofalsapackages
[11:50] <shaantanu> so ... how do i uninstall and reinstall it ?/
[11:50] <FirstStrike> ^
[11:50] <shaantanu> ok
[11:50] <linux_user400354> !alsa
[11:50] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:50] <shaantanu> how do I find out the nameofalsa packages
[11:50] <shaantanu> I tried that linux_user
[11:50] <chops-> how do i install curses
[11:51] <linux_user400354> shaantanu: just use synaptic and search alsa then only reinstall the alsa packages that you have
[11:51] <shaantanu> k
[11:51] <YogSothoth> Still stuck with resolution not properly used! And I'm having a great monologue here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1404052
[11:52] <SanketMedhi> jujimufu: why don't you use lamp?
[11:52] <linux_user400354> someone sent me this page earlier https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport there is nothing about sata controller cards in it.
[11:53] <Ng> chops-: are you trying to compile something that needs curses?
[11:53] <linux_user400354> !tell shaantanu about alsa
[11:53] <jujimufu> SanketMedhi: xaamp IS laamp, just a more recent version
[11:54] <shaantanu> (15:20:43) shaantanu: I tried that linux_user
[11:54] <Ng> all of the xaamp/laamp packages are already available in ubuntu
[11:54] <Ng> installing them externally is not an especially good idea
[11:54] <linux_user400354> shaantanu: why dont you just undo what you did to mess up alsa in the first place?
[11:55] <shaantanu> I am completely clueless .. I even restored the backup of the config file I made
[11:55] <shaantanu> during that ...
[11:55] <linux_user400354> Ng: are you from san antonio?
[11:55] <shaantanu> wait i'll post u the link of what exactly i did
[11:55] <SanketMedhi> jujimufu: install the packages separately using Synaptic, you will get more support
[11:55] <Ng> w
[11:56] <Ng> oops
[11:56] <Ng> linux_user400354: no
[11:56] <jujimufu> SanketMedhi: oh, ok thanks :D
[11:57] <exs> Is the AMD X2 Dual Core 4600+ a big improvement to the singlecore AMD 3200+ ?.. Thanks
[11:57] <KenSentMe> exs: this is the Ubuntu support channel, not #amd or something
[11:58] <Ng> exs: you'd be better off hunting down some benchmarks/reviews in google :)
[11:58] <Csabo2> the 4600 is a big improvement
[11:58] <exs> KenSentMe, was wondering if you ubuntu guys knew about the dual core, and if ubuntu took advantage of this.
[11:58] <Csabo2> however, you'd be stupid to buy an AMD right now
[11:58] <Csabo2> when the conroes are killing
[11:58] <beazely> are ata timeouts a known issue with kernel 2.6.15-26-686? i went back to 2.6.15-25-686 and they stopped, it causes a couple of second system freeze everytime it happens
[11:58] <exs> Csabo2,  what's conroes?
[11:58] <Csabo2> intels new dual core chip
[11:58] <Csabo2> 30% faster than the FX series
[11:59] <exs> Csabo2,  I have an AMD motherboard.
[11:59] <Csabo2> and much cheaper
[11:59] <Csabo2> buy a new one
[11:59] <exs> Csabo2,  and then I've made a purchase roughly the same cost as I would buying an amd chip
[12:00] <Csabo2> i wouldnt willingly buy an inferior chip, but if you dont want to spend a few extra bucks, thats fine too :)
[12:00] <Csabo2> as far as the 4800 goes, what are you going to be doing with the PC
[12:00] <chops-> does anybody here know what the curses package is called that needs to be installed ?
[12:00] <Ng> chops-: are you trying to compile something that needs curses?
[12:00] <chops-> yes i am
[12:00] <Ng> chops-: the actual curses library will already be installed, but if you are compiling you'll need the libncurses5-dev package installed
[12:01] <chops-> ok thanks
[12:01] <chops-> that package is nolonger there
[12:02] <linux_user400354> whats a fakeraid?
[12:02] <L1Nux3R> heey i have problem with the default account oem ihv deleted it and made new user and when i did restartin tried to enter the new details for the new account usename and password gave me message " the home directory for this user not found " now i want to back up the oem user as every thing that i installed was in that home directory /home/oem ?
[12:03] <Ng> chops-: are you running dapper? if so it's definitely there
[12:03] <chops-> maybe not whats the install for that
[12:03] <linux_user400354> anyone know what a fakeraid is?
[12:03] <FirstStrike> google.com
[12:03] <chops-> i had to do a complete reinstall
[12:04] <Ng> !info libncurses5-dev
[12:04] <ubotu> libncurses5-dev: Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses. In component main, is optional. Version 5.5-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1276 kB, installed size 5904 kB
[12:05] <Ng> chops-: if your synaptic/apt-get can't see that, there is something wrong with your apt sources
[12:05] <dalfz> could someone please point me to wireless howto with wpa_supplicant?
[12:05] <linux_user400354> !google
[12:05] <ubotu> google is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com
[12:05] <linux_user400354> !ubuntu
[12:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[12:05] <FirstStrike> !wifi
[12:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:06] <linux_user400354> !free
[12:06] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[12:06] <dalfz> thanks
[12:06] <linux_user400354> !fakeraid
[12:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fakeraid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:07] <linux_user400354> !fake
[12:07] <ubotu> fake: IP address takeover tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.10-1 (dapper), package size 35 kB, installed size 160 kB
[12:07] <linux_user400354> !john
[12:07] <ubotu> john: active password cracking tool. In component main, is optional. Version 1.6-39ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 536 kB, installed size 1164 kB
[12:07] <linux_user400354> !dsniff
[12:07] <ubotu> dsniff: Various tools to sniff network traffic for cleartext insecurities. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.4b1-13 (dapper), package size 107 kB, installed size 360 kB
[12:07] <linux_user400354> !airsnort
[12:07] <ubotu> airsnort: WLAN sniffer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.7e-1.1 (dapper), package size 49 kB, installed size 180 kB
[12:07] <shubuntunu> linux_user: sorry I got DC plz see http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_configure_sound_to_work_properly_in_GNOME
[12:07] <shubuntunu> i m shaantanu
[12:08] <shubuntunu> posting with a new nick
[12:08] <shubuntunu> I hope u remeber my prob
[12:08] <chamo> hello
[12:09] <shubuntunu> BTW as I see in my synaptic manager ... I have alsa-base and alsa-utils installed in y system
[12:09] <linux_user400354> shubuntunu: okay, whats your question? you never answered mine. why dont you undo everything you did?
[12:09] <linux_user400354> and restore all backed up files
[12:09] <shubuntunu> Do u reckon , I shud uninstall and reinstall these ??
[12:09] <ofer0> Does this website works for you: shanicreations.co.uk ?
[12:09] <linux_user400354> it wouldnt hurt to try
[12:09] <ofer0> s/works/work/
[12:09] <shubuntunu> I tried restoring the file, it dint work out
[12:10] <shubuntunu> I made a backup of my file as told in the tut
[12:10] <linux_user400354> Shubuntu remove the symbolic link you created
[12:10] <linux_user400354> Shubuntu uninstall any packages you added
[12:11] <shubuntunu> what mixer do u use ??
[12:11] <shubuntunu> alsa or OSS ??
[12:11] <linux_user400354> Shubuntu undo all changes you made
[12:11] <shubuntunu> can u gimme the contents of ur esd.conf and asound.conf
[12:11] <shubuntunu> so that I can restore it ??
[12:12] <shubuntunu> !asound.conf
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asound.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <linux_user400354> Shubuntu then do then do this `sudo /usr/bin/esd`
[12:13] <shubuntunu> k
[12:13] <linux_user400354> Shubuntu next time dont mess with your sound unless its not working
[12:13] <shubuntunu> it was working but not perfectly well
[12:14] <shubuntunu> it was giving me crackling sound
[12:14] <shubuntunu> anyways
[12:14] <shubuntunu> the command u told me tells me I have a corrupted asound.conf
[12:14] <ofer0> shubuntunu, did you follow the ALSA howto in ubuntuforums.org?
[12:14] <swarm> Does anyone here know of any load-balancing software for Ubuntu? I have multiple internet connections and would like to combine them if possible
[12:14] <shubuntunu> how to restore it ... coz I think the tut dint made a backup of this
[12:14] <shubuntunu> ya
[12:14] <shubuntunu> ofer0
[12:15] <linux_user400354> Shubuntu get it from the ubuntu install cd
[12:15] <linux_user400354> Shubuntu or i can give you mine
[12:15] <Shubuntu> http://apps.nccd.cdc.gov/dnpabmi/Result.aspx?&dob=1/11/1990&dom=8/28/2006&age=199&ht=65&wt=115&gender=1&method=0&inchtext=0&wttext=0
[12:15] <shubuntunu> that will be better
[12:15] <ofer0> shubuntunu, next time. when you edit a file - copy it to, lets say, FILENAME.backup, so can restore it later if you break anything, or just want to have a look what has been done.
[12:16] <shubuntunu> hmmm .. i'll do that
[12:16] <Ng> swarm: you can bond some kinds of connections together. google can probably turn something up
[12:16] <linux_user400354> i dont have an asound.conf
[12:16] <shubuntunu> ohh ..
[12:16] <shubuntunu> does ur sound work :D
[12:16] <ofer0> shubuntunu, I don't have this file either. (but I don't use sound, so maybe that's why..)
[12:16] <chops-> looks like my thing is screwd then since the synaptic package thing cant find that curses install
[12:17] <shubuntunu> hmm .. i m in a real mess
[12:18] <ofer0> shubuntunu, if you'll need anything else - please beep me
[12:18] <shubuntunu> ok
[12:18] <shubuntunu> thanks
[12:18] <ofer0> shubuntunu, I'll be back in a couple of minutes
[12:18] <shubuntunu> ya
[12:18] <chops-> what can i do to fix the synaptic installer database ?
[12:18] <ofer0> shubuntunu, hey, can you please ping shanicreations.co.uk and tell me if it works ?
[12:19] <shubuntunu> lets see
[12:19] <ofer0> chops-, run from terminal: aptitude update; aptitude update; aptitude -f install; aptitude upgrade
[12:19] <ofer0> chops-, (add sudo before every "aptitude")
[12:19] <swarm> yup :)
[12:20] <Shubuntu> shubuntunu: where you get that name from?
[12:20] <shubuntunu> yes i can
[12:20] <shubuntunu> ofer0
[12:20] <ofer0> shubuntunu, thanks! where are you from?
[12:21] <shubuntunu> India
[12:21] <ofer0> okay, thank you very much.
[12:21] <shubuntunu> hmm
[12:21] <shubuntunu> shubuntu
[12:21] <dave_v> hi people
[12:21] <Shubuntu> yes?
[12:21] <shubuntunu> shubuntu:my name is shantanu ... just added ubuntu in my middle name and voila
[12:21] <shubuntunu> so whats wid u ??
[12:22] <dave_v> I've got this problem with ubuntu... I installed last-ext, but when I play a radio, the sound skips... anyone knows what's going on?
[12:22] <Shubuntu> shubuntunu, I named my computer shubuntu when I installed ubuntu, since my last name is shaw.
[12:22] <shubuntunu> dave_v : r u sure the sound in rest of the apps works fine ??
[12:22] <shubuntunu> shubuntu : gr8
[12:22] <Thib_G> Hello
[12:22] <ania> hi;)
[12:22] <dave_v> yes
[12:22] <Thib_G> How to enable XDMCP on dapper ?
[12:23] <shubuntunu> dave_v: sorry then
[12:23] <ofer0> Thib_G, gdm.conf
[12:23] <dave_v> shubuntu: I can hear the startup sound and I can use my ipod with rythmbox
[12:23] <ofer0> Thib_G, search for the word "XDMCP" in that file
[12:23] <Thib_G> ofer0: yes, I have enabled it, but I can't connect
[12:23] <ofer0> Thib_G, have you restarted GDM ?
[12:23] <ofer0> /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:23] <shubuntunu> hmm .. then ur sound seems to be fine, some problem wid ur radio application
[12:23] <Anubuntu> there. less confusion
[12:23] <Thib_G> ofer0: ok, I'll try
[12:24] <shubuntunu> anubuntu ... how do u change ur nick ??
[12:24] <ofer0> shubuntunu, /nick NEWNICK
[12:24] <Anubuntu> shubuntunu: type /nick <new name>
[12:24] <shubuntunu> k
[12:25] <ofer0> sorry
[12:25] <kyja> how come this cant work in a launcher>? cd ~/hollala/:java -jar hollala.jar
[12:26] <chops-> well it still can't find the "libncurses5-dev" package
[12:27] <ofer0> kyja, you wrote this command: "cd ~/hollala/:java -jar hollala.jar" in a launcher, and it didn't work ?
[12:27] <geser> kyja: because the command in the launcher isn't excuted in a shell
[12:27] <Ng> chops-: are you running dapper?
[12:27] <Anubuntu> Well, im shall get some sleep, talk to you people later.
[12:27] <Ng> chops-: you might want to paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to a pastebin
[12:27] <ofer0> Anubuntu, cya
[12:27] <Anubuntu> ciao
[12:27] <homerh_linux> hiya my kernel just finished compilng and i cant see my module for nvidia i follow all the instruction (i think)  from here (http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Kernel_Compilation_Dapper) where do you think i went wrong
[12:27] <kyja> ifer0: correct.
[12:28] <robd> Hey all
[12:28] <rick-uk> Hi - I wonder if anyone can help me with Nessus? I'm failing at the first step as I get a 'Could notopen connection to localhost' error when I try to start it up
[12:28] <Ng> homerh_linux: the nvidia module is separate, it's not in the kernel
[12:28] <Ng> homerh_linux: it's in the linux-restricted-modules package, or a download from nvidia.com
[12:28] <robd> Does anyone know how I can clear my apt archive cache? Is it alright if I just delete all the dpkgs in /var/cache/apt/archives/ or should I use some tool?
[12:28] <yeager> robd: apt-get autoclean; apt-get clean
[12:29] <ofer0> rick-uk, run nessusd first.
[12:29] <robd> yeager: Ahh, thanks
[12:29] <kyja> from terminal I have to actualy cd myself to the folder or I get class errors with this particular app. I was hopeing to make a launcher to work. doing java -jar ~/hollala/hollala.jar does not work
[12:29] <kyja> or writing as full paths.
[12:29] <darth_tux71> hey
[12:30] <ofer0> kyja, what is the output of the command "which java"?
[12:30] <ofer0> kyja, oh, okay.
[12:30] <rick-uk> I'm using Edubuntu - how do I do that?  Doesn't appear on any of the Application/Places/System menus(Nessus is in Apps/Internet
[12:30] <geser> kyja: try sh -c "cd ~/hollala && java -jar hollala.jar" as launcher
[12:30] <age6racer> hello all, i'm having trouble with automatically mounting a Sata drive. It mounts fine manually.
[12:31] <age6racer> can someone take a look at my fstab and make sure its correct pls?
[12:31] <kyja> =]  thx I will try geser
[12:31] <avis> what desktop environment does Edubuntu use ?
[12:31] <linux_user400354> gnome
[12:31] <chops-> Ng i am kinda lost
[12:31] <rick-uk> GNOME
[12:31] <linux_user400354> but it has some kde apps
[12:31] <avis> how might Edububutu be different than Ubuntu ?
[12:31] <darth_tux71> hello
[12:31] <ofer0> rick-uk, I've never seen a GUI for nessusd, so you'll have to run it from the command line.
[12:31] <kyja> thx geser that works perfect =] 
[12:32] <avis> i'll google it
[12:32] <rick-uk> I guessed - just nessusd?
[12:32] <darth_tux71> i have a wee bit of a problem, I have a friend with an old ass PI lappy compaq and i cannot get into the BIOS to set cd to boot, so how in the heck do I make a boot floppy for Ubuntu?
[12:32] <marite_10> hola
[12:33] <marite_10> como estais??
[12:33] <rick-uk> Tried it and get 'command not found'
[12:33] <ofer0> rick-uk, I don't remember. Run "man nessusd", there are probably some instructions how to use it- pretty simple.
[12:33] <ofer0> rick-uk, I see. How did you install nessus ?
[12:33] <darth_tux71> i was able to get Xandros I to boot but there is an error on the cd even xcdroast went quack on a copy, xandros 3 cant find the HD
[12:34] <rick-uk> 'No manual entry for Nessusd'
[12:34] <Assassin5> darth_tux71, compaq bios key is usually F1, F2 or F12, not delete. Try that, but you can create a boot floppy from the install CD.
[12:34] <ofer0> rick-uk, try 'nessusd'
[12:35] <rick-uk> 'Command not found'
[12:35] <age6racer> http://rafb.net/paste/results/s1MwEK54.html here's my fstab
[12:35] <darth_tux71> Assassin5: yeah I tried F1 F2 F10 and if i hit Fun Del I get this little BIOS screen but i cant change any settings
[12:36] <age6racer> I have a read/write directory for the mount point and the name 'hdb' is correct
[12:37] <rick-uk> I just checked - I think I've just got the GTK+ client - how go I get & then install the server?
[12:37] <darth_tux71> the only way i am gonna get linux on this is with a floppy, suse 7.3 quacks, and i cant find my corel Linux 1 floppy anywhere
[12:37] <jrocks> hey , i have ubuntu 5 and i want to upgrade to ubuntu 6 , do i have to download the "Alternate install CD" ?
[12:38] <jrocks> or the normal CD will work ?
[12:38] <ofer0> rick-uk, have you tried "Nessusd" or "nessusd"? the latter is the right one.
[12:38] <ofer0> jrocks, you can just switch your sources.list file, and apt-get dist-upgrade.
[12:38] <jrocks> i want to do it using the CD
[12:38] <darth_tux71> 32 bit dapper on an AMD 64 =D
[12:39] <delire> can anyone reccommend a particular USB WIFI card/stick for use with Dapper?
[12:39] <rick-uk> nessusd
[12:40] <ofer0> rick-uk, okay. what is the output of "dpkg -l | grep ii | grep -i nessus; whereis nessus; whereis nessusd" ?
[12:45] <rick-uk> OK - it found nessus and returned nothing for nessusd
[12:45] <exs> how much is a good intel motherboard.
[12:45] <schnepfi> hy
[12:46] <dibblego> how do I delete all occurrences of a directory recursively?
[12:46] <bbrazil> dibblego: rm -rf dirname
[12:46] <dibblego> bbrazil, that won't work recursively
[12:47] <dibblego> there may be more than one occurence of dirname in other subdirectories
[12:47] <schnepfi> ok. i have downloaded amarok 1.4.1 and now i want to install this. but i haven't got a plan how this works. i'm only another newby but i hope you can help me. i got a .tar file
[12:48] <fdoving> dibblego: with all the contents of the directories with the given name?
[12:48] <dibblego> fdoving, correct
[12:49] <shawnr_> fdoving, im confused as to what you are trying to accomplish exactly
[12:49] <schnepfi> shawnr_?
[12:49] <mRCUTEO> hello im newbie user of ubuntu.. i notice i cant gedit / do deb command , anyone can help how do i update my ubtun to have all the lib and command?>
[12:50] <fdoving> dibblego: does this list the dirs you want to delete: find . -type d -name 'directoryname'
[12:50] <dibblego> fdoving, yes
[12:51] <shawnr_> mRCUTEO, what do you mean you can't 'gedit' ?
[12:51] <shawnr_> mRCUTEO, did you try typing 'gedit' in a terminal?
[12:52] <mRCUTEO> yes
[12:52] <fdoving> dibblego: then append '| xargs rm -ri' at the end. (remove -ri is to ask before every deletion. remove the 'i' to delete without asking).
[12:52] <mRCUTEO> it didnt work
[12:52] <lhds> how to access windows server MSHOME from gnome?
[12:52] <dibblego> fdoving, ah thanks
[12:52] <mRCUTEO> it says no such command
[12:52] <shawnr_> mRCUTEO, 'sudo apt-get install gedit'
[12:52] <fdoving> dibblego: you're welcome. find has super powers :)
[12:52] <shawnr_> mRCUTEO, are you using ubuntu?
[12:52] <schnepfi> how can i install a .tar file?(i'm another newbie)
[12:52] <mRCUTEO> oh thanks shadow`
[12:52] <mRCUTEO> thanks shawnr_
[12:53] <shawnr_> mRCUTEO, are you using gnome? or xfce... kde ?
[12:53] <shawnr_> mRCUTEO, because if you installed ubuntu/gnome gedit would have been installed
[12:53] <mRCUTEO> i install remote
[12:53] <lhds> how to share a folder in gnome?
[12:53] <mRCUTEO> i only have remote access on a openvz guest kernel server
[12:54] <mRCUTEO> oh
[12:54] <mRCUTEO> hold on shawnr_
[12:54] <zithowa> anyone have any idea why putty freezes when I hit CTRL-s when viewing a manpage?
[12:54] <mRCUTEO> root@216:~# cat /etc/issue
[12:54] <mRCUTEO> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS \n \l
[12:54] <avis> there was a terminal application that would read keyboard codes upon pressing them does anyone know what that program is so i can assign functions to my keyboard ?
[12:54] <Ng> zithowa: because ctrl-s locks a shell
[12:54] <Ng> zithowa: ctrl-q unlocks it (specifically it's a scroll lock)
[12:55] <schnepfi> how can i install a .tar file?
[12:55] <zithowa> Ng: you have no idea how long i have been restarting sessions because of that
[12:55] <zithowa> thanks so much
[12:55] <Ng> zithowa: it was a long time before I figured that out too, so I wouldn't worry :)
[12:56] <shawnr_> schnepfi, 'sudo apt-get install build-essentials'
[12:56] <zithowa> i also have a few other problems with putty.. it displays some characters incorrectly and replaces them with.. quotation marks i think
[12:57] <shawnr_> schnepfi, in folder read the 'install' or 'readme' file
[12:57] <zithowa> only on my this one ubuntu box :\.  on my school's all characters work
[12:57] <fdoving> schnepfi: i would recommend reading: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[12:57] <schnepfi> thank's a lot
[12:57] <fdoving> zithowa: ubuntu uses UTF-8 charset by default. I think putty has a select charset option somewhere.. search and you shall find. :)
[12:58] <fdoving> schnepfi: no problem :)
[12:58] <pysiak> hello
[12:58] <sarikan> does anyone know hot to deal with black overlay problem in XGL?
[12:58] <sarikan> I mean how to :)
[12:58] <SanketMedhi> sarikan: go to #ubuntu-xgl
[12:58] <pysiak> zithowa : it does: Window->Translation->Receive data assummed ... ->choose UTF-8
[12:58] <SanketMedhi> !xgl
[12:58] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:58] <sarikan> When using vmware under XGL it produces a blank screen
[12:59] <shawnr_> sarikan, #xgl or #ubuntu-xgl
[12:59] <xet7> Hi, I got errors when installing vmware player to ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21278   - what to do?
[12:59] <sarikan> thanks shawnr_
[01:00] <shawnr_> xet7, #vmware
[01:01] <pysiak> Suppose I want to start making patched kernels for plain ubuntu users.
[01:01] <pysiak> Ubuntu releases every now and then a new version of the kernel
[01:01] <pysiak> like 2.6.15-23, 2.6.15-27
[01:01] <SanketMedhi> xet7: do you have vmware server installed too?
[01:02] <pysiak> how do I go about building up to date kernels with patches of my own, so that people can use them. this means default ubuntu configs + all the archs
[01:02] <pysiak> for dapper
[01:02] <Urden> does anyone know how to move or copy the trash shortcut in the panel onto the desktop?
[01:02] <xet7> SanketMedhi: no, just the player
[01:03] <irenix> hola
[01:03] <irenix> alguien habla por aqui??
[01:04] <pysiak> habla ingles, speak english
[01:04] <irenix> why??
[01:04] <stuck> hello peeps, what's the default user/pass for dapper alternate OEM version?
[01:05] <pysiak> irenix : it's more likely that someone will answer :-)
[01:05] <xet7> SanketMedhi: ok, I got reply from #vmware to install official tar.gz files from vmware.com.
[01:05] <SanketMedhi> xet7: ok
[01:05] <sioux> hi people mode managed in wlano means there is a key protection?
[01:05] <Urden> irenix, because that's what is spoken in here
[01:05] <SanketMedhi> xet7: actually Vmware player installs fine if you don't have a previous installation of the player or the server on your system
[01:06] <rem_> Hey, my gnome kills all programs I use and restarts gnome from time to time...has anyone had that prob ?
[01:06] <SanketMedhi> xet7: using apt-get is always recommended
[01:07] <SanketMedhi> xet7: but you will get the latest version from the vmware site
[01:07] <SanketMedhi> xet7: your call!
[01:07] <xet7> SanketMedhi: I didn't have previous installation, it gave those errors, and when I started vmware player it said newer version is at vmware.com
[01:07] <SanketMedhi> yeah so?
[01:07] <SanketMedhi> ignore it
[01:07] <stuck> hello peeps, what's the default user/pass for dapper alternate OEM version?
[01:08] <Urden> does anyone know how to move or copy the trash shortcut in the panel onto the desktop?
[01:08] <DrFinn> How do I install Ati Radeon driver 2.28 on Ubuntu ?
[01:09] <kaot> Urden: did you try click & drag?
[01:09] <Urden> Dracon, i have no idea
[01:09] <DrFinn> How do I install Ati Radeon driver 8.28.8 on Ubuntu ?
[01:09] <rsk> !ati
[01:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:09] <kaot> otherwise you've actually got a ~/.Trash directory, you should just be able to create the link on your desktop.
[01:10] <Urden> kaot, yeah
[01:10] <klaount> DrFinn, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide
[01:11] <Urden> kaot, i can move it from panel to panel, but thats it
[01:11] <Urden> ahh
[01:11] <DrFinn> klaount
[01:12] <jinroh> Gnucash 2.0 Problem - When I run gnucash the following error appears "Could not create per-user Gnome directory </home/username/.gnome/accels> - aborting"  The permission on the .gnome folder is drwx------  Thanks
[01:12] <DrFinn> I tried that ...it doesn`t work
[01:12] <DrFinn> followed the stepps carefully
[01:12] <klaount> DrFinn, it absolutely works
[01:12] <kaot> I've found that peeing directly in the AGP slot does about as much for my graphics performance as installing the ATI drivers has.
[01:12] <klaount> I'm talking about method 2
[01:13] <klaount> what errors did you got?
[01:13] <shawnr_> h4ch3r, did you get edgy? how is it?
[01:13] <h4ch3r> :)
[01:13] <kaot> klaount: I believe I had to get a slightly older version of libgl when I installed the drivers.  I could be misremembering though.
[01:13] <codecaine> anybody know how to get synaptics to work for a touch pad ona  laptop?
[01:13] <kaot> otherwise anything gl just errored all over the place.
[01:13] <codecaine> mouse pad
[01:14] <shawnr_> h4ch3r, how is it?
[01:14] <klaount> kaot, nope, didn't happened to me
[01:14] <codecaine> so the mouse move not senstive to clicking from taps
[01:14] <h4ch3r> wait...
[01:14] <kaot> codecaine: there's a qsynaptics app that can supposedly be used to control that stuff, but I never got it to work
[01:15] <h4ch3r> shawnr_, i'll upgrade of dapper for edgy!
[01:15] <h4ch3r> ;-)
[01:15] <Tokyo> is ubuntu stable on G3 ?
[01:15] <shawnr_> h4ch3r, you did or you going too ?
[01:15] <codecaine> I tried it doesn'twork
[01:15] <Tokyo> :(
[01:15] <h4ch3r> Tokyo, i use ubuntu 6.06 in the G5!
[01:16] <codecaine> its says please install the driver for synaptics
[01:16] <Tokyo> G4 works fine too
[01:16] <kaot> codecaine: ah yes.  same thing mine says.  well, now that I'm doing nothing, I'm gonna try doing just that.
[01:16] <h4ch3r> shawnr_, what?
[01:16] <kaot> (yay, a project.)
[01:16] <h4ch3r> o_O
[01:16] <shawnr_> nrm lol
[01:17] <shawnr_> nvm*
[01:17] <h4ch3r> 
[01:17] <DrFinn> klaout  at the command ./ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper  I end up getting Extraction failed
[01:17] <Urden> thanks kaot
[01:19] <jay__> i ordered my cd's for Dapper... how do i install it?
[01:19] <jay__> if i put it in drive a live cd tries to load
[01:19] <ailean> jay, yep that's right :)
[01:19] <jay__> what am i doing wrong?
[01:19] <ailean> nothing
[01:19] <ailean> do you have a free partition?
[01:19] <jay__> i want to overwrite my windows drive
[01:19] <ailean> jay__, you sure?
[01:20] <jay__> only 40gb
[01:20] <ailean> jay__, everything's backed up?
[01:20] <jay__> kinda small to have fun
[01:20] <jay__> my docs and email yes sir
[01:20] <jay__> :)
[01:20] <ailean> jay__, ok, you should see an "install" button on the desktop
[01:20] <ailean> u on the livecd just now?
[01:20] <lassegs> jay__: Yeah, just boot the Live CD, and press the install icon on the desktop
[01:21] <jay__> no on windows now
[01:21] <ailean> ok
[01:21] <Windy> right, this has got to be the worst opening line ever but...'can somebody help me with a quick newbie issue?'
[01:21] <ailean> jay__, load the livecd and click install - it should be easy to follow it through
[01:21] <jay__> only thing i need is support for podcasts
[01:21] <ailean> but the good thing is that your computer WORKS while you're doing it
[01:21] <Ng> Windy: ask and find out :)
[01:21] <ailean> jay__, podcasts are no prob
[01:21] <Windy> right then
[01:22] <jay__> ailean: do tell
[01:22] <ailean> jay__, u can hook up your ipod too if you have one too
[01:22] <bradbury9> gtkpod includes podcast isn't it?
[01:22] <ailean> ah there are loads of podcast progs
[01:22] <Windy> i'm trying to install MPlayer, I downloaded it and I've got a series of dependencies which aren't satisfied, which is fine. But I get to the point where I have two packages which depend on each other, neither of which will install. Any ideas?
[01:22] <Madeye> Hello, I'm new to freeBSD, actually I'm used to Debian and want to know if there is an apt-get like for freebsd ?
[01:22] <lassegs> jay__ i heard rhythmbox handles it well
[01:22] <ailean> jay__, i use the one in amarok, which is a music player mainly, but has great support for podcasts
[01:22] <DrFinn> Windy ..install Mplayer using synaptic..it will install all the other packages U need
[01:23] <shawnr_> Windy, 'sudo apt-get install mplayer'
[01:23] <lassegs> Madeye: i think thats port but this isnt the right channel for it
[01:23] <ailean> anyone, does the livecd include Xchat?
[01:23] <shawnr_> Windy, 'sudo apt-get install mplayer mplayer-skins mplayer-fonts'
[01:23] <Windy> DrFinn: synaptic doesn't recognise the packages i downloaded
[01:23] <DrFinn> stop manualy downloading and instaling packages ! You have  synaptic you know...
[01:23] <Windy> shawnr_:  where do i type that? terminal?
[01:23] <shawnr_> yes
[01:23] <krazykit> Madeye: ports is pretty much it.  i don't think there's really an apt-like frontend for it though.
[01:23] <jay__> ok... so i can pop in live cd while in windows or reboot with cd in?
[01:23] <ailean> reboot with cd in
[01:24] <shawnr_> jay__, yes
[01:24] <Windy> says it couldn't find the package
[01:24] <jay__> what about ndiswrapper?
[01:24] <DrFinn> I installed mplayer like this: opened Synaptic..searched for mplayer..marked it for instalation and apply..all down hill from there
[01:24] <Windy> hmm
[01:24] <ailean> jay__, ndiswrapper?
[01:24] <shawnr_> Windy, did you enable extra repositories?
[01:24] <Windy> well i looked in synaptic
[01:24] <jay__> i have broadcom wireless card
[01:24] <shinobi2> anyone's ubuntuu bootup screen shows kubuntu instead?
[01:24] <Windy> shawnr_: tried, wouldn't let me access sources.list
[01:24] <Windy> err wouldn't let me save changes i should say
[01:24] <DrFinn> windy
[01:25] <krazykit> shinobi2: you probably installed kubuntu-artwork or kubuntu-desktop
[01:25] <DrFinn> go to Software proprieties and mark extra repositories there
[01:25] <shawnr_> Windy, http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[01:25] <Windy> this'd be the day i killed my Ubuntu install 30mins after installing it
[01:25] <ailean> jay__, wireless support is not my strong point - i don't have it
[01:25] <lassegs> Windy: type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:25] <ailean> someone answer :)
[01:25] <shinobi2> krazykit: yes, i installed kubuntu desktop, now try to change the splash screen back but don't know how
[01:25] <shawnr_> Windy, relax, goto this site.. its super easy. just follow step by step http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[01:26] <shawnr_> k im out people
[01:26] <kaot> jay__: ndiswrapper's the way to go in my experience but it kind of depends on exactly whhich chipset you've got
[01:26] <Windy> k
[01:26] <Windy> mm well sources.list is sorted
[01:26] <kaot> jay__: I've got 4318 rev 2 and ndiswrapper was the only way that worked.
[01:26] <jay__> i think i have 4318
[01:27] <kaot> jay__: problem is 6.06 will helpfully load a non-working broadcom kernel driver for you and mess up your day.
[01:28] <bradbury9> has anyone suceeded installing america's army or quake2 or enemy territory on amd64?  I get this message
[01:28] <bradbury9> XFree86-VidModeExtension Activated at 800x600
[01:28] <bradbury9> Using 8/8/8 Color bits, 24 depth, 0 stencil display.
[01:28] <bradbury9> X Error of failed request: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[01:28] <ailean> bradbury9, try the windows version under wine. supposed to work very well
[01:29] <bradbury9> it also says GLXBadContext
[01:29] <bradbury9> thanks ailean
[01:30] <Windy> hmm
[01:30] <jay__> wish me luck here i go
[01:30] <Windy> mplayer still isn't showing up
[01:30] <Windy> the universe repos are enabled
[01:31] <Windy> nvm
[01:31] <Windy> my bad
[01:31] <DrFinn> I can`t install the damn ati radeon 8.28 drivers! followed the tutorial exactly
[01:31] <bradbury9> Windy apt-cache search mplayer. Doesn't show anything?
[01:31] <Windy> it shows kmplayer
[01:31] <Windy> nvm
[01:31] <Windy> turns out i didn't save the changes to sources.list
[01:31] <Windy> even though i swear i did :/
[01:31] <Windy> eh go figure i must be getting old
[01:31] <jinroh> Windy:  go here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[01:32] <Zonoid> Does anyone know why my computer hangs on "Mounting root file system" when I try to start Linux from a Live CD?
[01:32] <Windy> jinroh: i did.
[01:33] <Jamo> how do I get ImageCreateFromJPEG() to work in php 5
[01:33] <lassegs> Zonoid try booting without acpi?
[01:33] <Zonoid> Lassegs: How do I do that?
[01:33] <DrFinn> hey ..a little help! I installed Ubuntu 6.06 LTS .. at first boot ran an update check and updated all 163 packages..rebooted then followed the tutorial on installing Ati raden drivers 8.28 using method 2 ..got stuck on "./ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper" command ..result..extraction failed
[01:34] <rr> Jamo : did you install the libgd2 package and the gd php extension ?
[01:34] <Jamo> rr: I did sudo apt-get install php5-gd
[01:34] <Jamo> & it restarted apache2, is there more I need to do? like enable it?
[01:35] <SanketMedhi> Jamo: edit /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[01:35] <rr> jamo: check if the gd libs are installed : dpkg -L | grep libgd
[01:35] <SanketMedhi> Jamo: search for gd.so and uncomment the line
[01:35] <TMM> hi all!
[01:35] <Zonoid> How would I run Ubuntu without acpi?
[01:36] <TMM> question: does anyone know if the linux quota system supports per-directory quotas on the same filesystem?
[01:36] <rr> SanketMedhi : true dat, but isn't that enabled by default ?
[01:36] <Jamo> rr: dpkg -L | grep libgd says --listfiles needs at least one package name argument
[01:36] <Qball> acpi=off passed to the kernel (or something like that)
[01:36] <TMM> or if there's any project/something that makes that possible?
[01:36] <SanketMedhi> rr: I don't think so
[01:36] <SanketMedhi> rr: in fact, I am sure it isn't
[01:36] <Windy> mmm that's odd
[01:36] <Zonoid> Qball: But how do you pass something to the kernel? Ubuntu is my first Linux distro. I'm a n00b :-)
[01:36] <Windy> it tells me mplayer package is not avail.
[01:36] <rr> jamo : sorry use lower case "l" : dpkg -l
[01:36] <Windy> probably explain why it hasn't been working so far tho :(
[01:37] <Qball> Zonoid: why do you want to run withouth acpi?
[01:37] <Zonoid> Qball: My computer hangs for a long time at "Mounting root file system" and then gives an error. Eventually, it will get to the splash screen. And it doesn't go any further.
[01:37] <Jamo> yeah it is installed
[01:37] <Mick7> hello
[01:37] <skyonex> Hello. I can't find in my ubuntu 6.06 my favourite Midnight Commander. And I can't find it in Synaptic. What should I do? Or I should install konsole? Maybe there is other good file manager I may install from synaptic?
[01:37] <Jamo> *looking for gd.so in the php.ini, don't knwo how to search with nano
[01:38] <kaot> no midnight commander?!
[01:38] <void^> !info mc
[01:38] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB
[01:38] <Qball> Zonoid: eeuh you can edit the options passed to the kernel with grub.
[01:38] <gnomefreak> !mc
[01:38] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB
[01:38] <Qball> but you hsould look up a howto on that
[01:38] <klaount> skyonex, MC is in the repos I think, you could also try Krusader
[01:38] <Zonoid> Qball: Do you have any other simpler fixes for this problem?
[01:38] <kaot> yeah midnight commander is in there, package name mc
[01:38] <Jamo> Sanket: I found extension =gd.so uncommented already
[01:38] <Qball> Zonoid: with this little info, no
[01:39] <Windy> anyone know of MPlayer has gone AWOL?
[01:39] <Zonoid> I'll tell you what the error says, but I'll have to wait for the computer to get there.
[01:39] <rr> Jamo : create a php file with the following commands in it :  <? phpinfo(); ?>
[01:39] <Jamo> rr: it is installed
[01:39] <Mick7> somebody could tell me a GPU nvidia that sure go with ubuntu?
[01:39] <Jamo> done: http://tdmi.ironlog.com/photos/info.php
[01:40] <Jamo> it says nothing about gd
[01:40] <rr> Jamo: open the file in ur browser
[01:40] <lassegs> Zonoid: its hanging from disk install or live cd?=
[01:40] <lassegs> Zonoid: sorry, i left the computer for a sec
[01:40] <Jamo> rr: done
[01:40] <rr> Jamo : it shows u the installed modules
[01:41] <Jamo> rr: yeah so how do I get gd installed?
[01:41] <Mick7> if i change motherboard i must re-install linux and windows?
[01:41] <lupine_> Mick7: probably not
[01:41] <Zonoid> Lassegs: Yes.
[01:41] <rr> Jamo : it is installed yes ?
[01:41] <jrib> !hardware > Mick7
[01:41] <Zonoid> Lassegs: It's hanging from a Live CD.
[01:41] <lassegs> Zonoid: Yes? Live-cd or harddisk?
[01:41] <lassegs> Zonoid: ok
[01:41] <Zonoid> Sorry :-)
[01:41] <Jamo> rr: no, the info page says nothing about gd
[01:41] <rr> Jamo: gd module loaded ?
[01:41] <lupine_> linux def. not as long as you're using the default kernel. windows "should" cope, but... yeah. it's windows ;)
[01:42] <kaot> yeh I've swapped a hard drive with a linux install into a totally different system and it mostly worked fine, except for nic drivers and the obvious stuff like that.
[01:42] <rr> Jamo : hmm ok, did u restart apacje after adding the php-gd package ?
[01:42] <Zonoid> Lassegs: Eventually it goes to an error and even later it goes to the splash screen. It never gets any further than that.
[01:42] <Jamo> rr: yes, and I restarted the server too
[01:42] <Mick7> i've one drive
[01:42] <rr> Jamo : u probaly did, but to be sure
[01:42] <Mick7> with kubuntu
[01:42] <lassegs> Zonoid: if you press F6 or something in the liveCD boot options window, you get more options. look for boot with acpi disabled. just see what happens
[01:42] <Mick7> and xp
[01:42] <Windy> hmm got it
[01:43] <Windy> thanks for the help guys.
[01:43] <Jamo> np i'll do it again
[01:43] <lassegs> Zonoid: im no expert but i got hte same error with Damn Small Linux once, and that helped
[01:43] <rr> Jamo : hold on a minute , i'll check here
[01:43] <bradbury9> Zonoid n some distros is noacpi
[01:43] <matilda> Hi, i can't change my language on the keyboard layout (the keys that switch layout). whenever i try it on the keyboard manager i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21280 I also re-installed xkbcomp,xmodmaputilities, libxklavier but it didnt help. can u help me with that?
[01:43] <Zonoid> Lassegs: I'll try. Thanks.
[01:43] <Jamo> GRRRRRRRRRR
[01:44] <Jamo> rr: I restarted it once, it restarted it when it installed the mod!!! but I just restarted it and that did it
[01:44] <Jamo> rr: NFC< but thank you
[01:44] <Zonoid> What is the code for no acpi?
[01:44] <Zonoid> It needs me to type something.
[01:44] <rr> Jamo : lol , ok
[01:44] <bradbury9> when you run te cd
[01:44] <lassegs> Zonoid: i think F5 or 4 gives you a list of commands
[01:45] <bradbury9> at the first screen
[01:45] <bradbury9> you can press direfent keys
[01:45] <bradbury9> (enter default)
[01:45] <Zonoid> Lassegs: Oh. Okay.
[01:45] <bradbury9> F1 to F4 diferent parameters
[01:45] <elias__> when I install vmware-player in dapper what else do I have to do to establish connectivity between a vmware image and dapper?
[01:46] <elias__> using endian firewall 2.0 image
[01:46] <matilda> Hi, i can't change my language on the keyboard layout (the keys that switch layout). whenever i try it on the keyboard manager i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21280 I also re-installed xkbcomp,xmodmaputilities, libxklavier but it didnt help. can u help me with that?
[01:46] <lassegs> Zonoid: i think it is acpi=off
[01:47] <Zonoid> Lassegs: I did it. It's pci=noacpi
[01:47] <Zonoid> It looks like it's still hanging though.
[01:48] <lassegs> Zonoid: try acpi=off
[01:48] <Zonoid> Lassegs: Okay.
[01:48] <elias__> any vmware know-how around?
[01:49] <chops-> when something says build and then install i know i have to do make then make install but whats build
[01:49] <jrib> !compile > chops-
[01:49] <Zonoid> Lassegs: That didn't do it either. I think it has something to do with the external cd rom drive for my laptop that is running the Live CD.
[01:50] <lukus001> Can someone help, I cant uninstall VMware player from my system, synaptic returns "E: vmware-player: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[01:50] <lukus001> "
[01:50] <lassegs> Zonoid: what kind of harddisk u got?
[01:51] <erofee> hi guys and girls
[01:51] <Zonoid> Lassegs: I don't know. It's a laptop from 1998/1999
[01:51] <DrFinn> I need the link to the Ati driver instalation guide please!
[01:51] <erofee> can anyone tell me what packages i need to install to play mp3's?
[01:51] <lassegs> Zonoid: how about trying the 'debug' argument?
[01:52] <jrib> !mp3 > erofee
[01:52] <Zonoid> You just type "debug" into the code area?
[01:52] <matilda>  Hi, i can't change my language on the keyboard layout (the keys that switch layout). whenever i try it on the keyboard manager i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21280 I also re-installed xkbcomp,xmodmaputilities, libxklavier but it didnt help. can u help me with that?
[01:52] <erofee> thankyou
[01:52] <lassegs> Zonoid= as far as i can tell yes
[01:53] <avis> is fs-driver for xp the only ext3 sharing driver for linux and windows partitions ?  i'm afraid that driver install wont work with my 64 bit installation of windows
[01:53] <Zonoid> Lassegs: It did a bunch of checks very quickly, but then it went to the Ubuntu screen and froze at that same part again.
[01:54] <jrib> avis: there is a program called explore2fs that will let you view your ext3 partitions.  I am not sure if this will work with 64bit either though
[01:54] <lassegs> Zonoid: trying to press alt ctrl F1  sends you nowhere?
[01:54] <avis> thank you
[01:54] <lassegs> avis: do you need a partition to write to from both linux and windows?
[01:54] <Zonoid> Lassegs: If you mean while it's hanging, it didn't do anything.
[01:55] <tuxtux> ciao
[01:55] <lassegs> Zonoid: yes that was what i meant. im sorry, i dont know what you are supposed to do. but as i sead earlier, im no expert. get an expert to help you
[01:56] <Zonoid> Lassegs: Okay. Well, thanks for helping me as best you could!
[01:56] <lassegs> Zonoid: of course
[01:57] <Zonoid> Lassegs: Alt Ctrl F1 looks like it does to something. I must have done it the wrong way last time.
[01:57] <lassegs> Zonoid: hey hey! u get to a terminal?
[01:57] <perl_cont> hey
[01:57] <Zonoid> Lassegs: It hangs on "fb0 VGA16 vga frame buffer device"
[01:57] <avis> lassegs, yes i do
[01:57] <lassegs> avis: then fat32 is still the best choice for you
[01:57] <lassegs> Zonoid: there you go!
[01:57] <avis> ok
[01:58] <lassegs> Zonoid: give me a sec
[01:58] <lukus001> Can someone help, I cant uninstall VMware player from my system, synaptic returns "E: vmware-player: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1"   and now every time I install something via apt-get or synaptic vmware player keeps getting reinstalled
[01:58] <Zonoid> Lassegs: And then it says a bunch of things and hangs at "hdc: drive not ready for command"
[01:58] <lassegs> Zonoid: what does it say on hda and hdb?
[01:59] <lassegs> lukus001: just type apt-get remove VMware player   to stop it from trying to reinstall all the time
[01:59] <ircleuser> Lassegs Sorry. I have a trial version of an IRC client. It quits every 30 minutes.
[02:00] <asdf> ircleuser: try irssi
[02:00] <lukus001> lassegs but it keeps returning that error and wont let me
[02:00] <lassegs> lukus001: sudo apt-get install -f  ?
[02:01] <lukus001> lassegs tried that before yes...
[02:01] <lassegs> ircleuser: change nick i get really confused :P
[02:01] <Zonoid> Lassegs: Sorry about that :-)
[02:02] <lassegs> Zonoid: what does it say on hda and hdb?
[02:02] <dalila> what is latest firefox on 6.0.6?
[02:02] <lukus001> Lassegs. is there anyway i can take vmware player off the synaptic records and manually delete all vmware folders?
[02:02] <r0wd3> Hello All
[02:03] <Zonoid> Lassegs: I'll check.
[02:03] <Zonoid> Lassegs: I also noticed it said "idc-cd: cmd 0x28 timed out"
[02:03] <r0wd3> Can some one tell me about the imcompatibility issues surounding Ubuntu and the Asrock brand of motherboards
[02:03] <matilda>  Hi, i can't change my language on the keyboard layout (the keys that switch layout). whenever i try it on the keyboard manager i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21280 I also re-installed xkbcomp,xmodmaputilities, libxklavier but it didnt help. can u help me with that?
[02:06] <dalila> what is latest firefox on 6.0.6?
[02:06] <MorphDK> I know there are a lot of guides for Ubuntu and XGL/Compiz, but which is the best? They are doing the things in different ways :/
[02:06] <jrib> dalila: 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.5-0ubuntu6.06.1
[02:07] <fdoving> MorphDK: i suggest asking in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:07] <dalila> jcrib:thxs
[02:07] <MorphDK> :D
[02:07] <MorphDK> nice
[02:07] <skyonex> I type: 'apt-get install name_of_app' And get that: 'unable to lock the administartion directory (/var/lib/dpkg) Are you root?' But I don't know root password. When I installed ububtu it has asked me only one time to type my password for my username. What I doing wrong?
[02:07] <jrib> skyonex: sudo apt-get intall name_of_app
[02:07] <dalila> skyonex: use sudo
[02:07] <jrib> !sudo > skyonex
[02:07] <skyonex> thank you
[02:08] <lukus001> Does anyone know how to forcefully remove an appliaction from synaptic's list because I have a program which wont install properly or uninstall from my system and it keeps trying to install every bloody time i install soemthing
[02:08] <dalila> !root > skyonex
[02:08] <r0wd3> Can some one tell me about the imcompatibility issues surounding Ubuntu and the Asrock brand of motherboards
[02:08] <dalila> is there any hope to get a lexmark z45 working with ubuntu/linux  seems not to work with any linux
[02:09] <Zonoid> Lassegs: I fixed it! I had to type ide=nodma
[02:09] <jrib> dalila: have you checked linuxprinting.org?
[02:10] <skyonex> skyonex@skyonex-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install bluefish
[02:10] <skyonex> Password:
[02:10] <skyonex> E:        /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:10] <skyonex> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? :-(
[02:10] <jrib> skyonex: do you have synaptic open or some other apt program?
[02:11] <dalila> jcrib: i did check but its not listed
[02:11] <RichEd> hello ... question about end user desktop requirements: how do we respond when someone says they want KDE desktop ? what's our response to that ... especially vs other variants where people can chose ?
[02:11] <srn> kubuntu?
[02:11] <skyonex> jrib: Yes. Now close. Thank you. Now working :-)
[02:11] <jrib> skyonex: have you tried this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkPrinters
[02:11] <jrib> dalila: ^ was for you :)
[02:11] <bradbury9> skyonex, close synaptics
[02:11] <lamego> RichEd, you ask them why, if they have a good reason you install it for them :)
[02:12] <jrib> RichEd: /msg ubotu kde
[02:12] <Elda> RichEd, sounds like its all up to choice at least to me
[02:12] <Elda> err user preference
[02:12] <RichEd> srn & lamego: yep ... but when it gets to language & application support & access to developer communities, we are much fuller in GNOME
[02:12] <jrib> RichEd: I would just install both and let them try both
[02:12] <Mkquist> RichEd, i guess u can always just let them know that,then their choice
[02:13] <dalila> but will probably not work with inkjet or all-in-one printers.  :-(
[02:13] <Mkquist> y not both gnome/kde? anyway?
[02:13] <delire> r0wd3: was there some problem with IRQ assignments and ACPI?
[02:13] <RichEd> req: a russian country wants to deploy 32,000 machines, with paid LT support, and help with localisation etc.
[02:13] <RichEd> especially educational desktop support
[02:13] <lamego> RichEd, i am not aware the KDE language support is differente from gnome...
[02:13] <lamego> but i dont use it
[02:14] <RichEd> we are *much*  better in the Edubuntu area than Kubuntu for this level of relationship
[02:14] <delire> r0wd3: if so, that is easily fixed. just provide acpi=off in your boot argument.
[02:14] <r0wd3> Is it really that simple?
[02:14] <lamego> RichEd, as far as I know, there is no paid support for KDE
[02:15] <RichEd> lamego: that's my issue :)
[02:15] <jrib> dalila: also, you can try similar printers in the "add printer" dialog and it may work
[02:16] <RichEd> pschulz01: I lead the Education Programme for Canonical and am trying to close a major project deal in an ex USSR country. As above, not a trivial requirement.
[02:16] <lamego> RichEd, that should be an argument enough for people needing paid support :)
[02:16] <dalila> jcrib:ubuntu identifies the printer correctly but it tries to use the z42 driver,  then all print stays in queue both with cups and gnome gui
[02:16] <RichEd> sorry pschulz01 your nick autocompleted :( apologies for the non sequitar
[02:16] <lamego> RichEd, KDE is not an option on your case :)
[02:17] <sioux> hi people i have a unstable working with zyxel g-220 wireless usb adapter. The driver is already installed on dapper. when I do ifconfig wlan0 up and it goes up works ok but after some it goes off and if I retry the up command says me wlan error inferface flags no such device but the zd1211 module is still loaded. Any ideas?
[02:17] <RichEd> lamego ... thanks ... agree with all of the comments ... just that if *they* insist i don't want to make them go away
[02:18] <lamego> RichEd, you could debate why do they ask for KDE
[02:18] <matilda> Hi, i can't change my language on the keyboard layout (the keys that switch layout). whenever i try it on the keyboard manager i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21280 I also re-installed xkbcomp,xmodmaputilities, libxklavier but it didnt help. can u help me with that?
[02:18] <lamego> RichEd, I am sure they have a reason you can argue with
[02:18] <Elda> What is the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu? >.<
[02:18] <visik7> how can I contact backports team ?
[02:18] <srn> kubuntu is default kde
[02:18] <Elda> Ah hah
[02:19] <lamego> srn, the issue is, there is no paid support for kubuntu...
[02:19] <dalila> jcrib:all i see is caldera open linux http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-perl/downloads.cgi?ccs=229:1:0:0:0:0
[02:19] <Elda> Well Im happy with gnome for now hehe, it has a "warmer" feel to if you will xD
[02:19] <srn> lamego: comment was pointed at Elda
[02:20] <RichEd> Elda: Ubuntu is Gnome, standard version ; Edubuntu is Gnome, education bundle ; Kubuntu is KDE, education bundle
[02:20] <lamego> ops sorry :P
[02:20] <sioux> no help?
[02:20] <Elda> Ah hah
[02:20] <lamego> sioux, no idea, i don't own such equipment
[02:20] <RichEd> only real argument for KDE is that it looks more like M$ ... for the brainwashed masses
[02:21] <sioux> :-(
[02:21] <Elda> Was going to say that it reminded me of windows but did not know if I would be making an accurate statement
[02:21] <srn> it can look more like m$ .. it is it's strength that it can look almost like anythin
[02:21] <lamego> RichEd, with some customization you can get a windows alike gnome
[02:21] <Elda> Question is, would you want to?
[02:21] <RichEd> lamego: yes, but then again support becomes an issue ...
[02:21] <Dimensions> hi how can i add a script for auto start on startup
[02:22] <Elda> Only thing Id like to figure out how to do is give my windows key a function in here xD
[02:22] <lamego> RichEd, not really, we are talking about themes and menu customizations, that must be covered by a support agreement, thats just desktop customization
[02:22] <lamego> RichEd, support is not bind to themes...
[02:22] <bimberi> Dimensions: add it to /etc/rc.local  - note that it will run as superuser
[02:23] <srn> it's funny how every guide tells me how to get 85hz.. but none one tells me how to get 60hz .. when that is when my monitor displays a better picture
[02:23] <lamego> as long you keep with the main packages, you are keeping supported versions
[02:23] <Elda> Is there a way that I can make it so that the windows key can be used to open my applications menu rather than having it do nothing?
[02:23] <lamego> srn, maybe its because your situation is very unileky, and it goes again the definition of refresh rate, the higher, the best is the image
[02:23] <lamego> unlikely
[02:24] <srn> hehe yeah i know
[02:24] <srn> but unfortunally this really hurts my eyes
[02:24] <RichEd> lamego: real issue for me is "why bend something to look like something else" when the kids will be happy with anything ..,. that's the d@mn pity that the first suggestion is usually M$ and then KDE becomes a step to the left as a "substitute", but the real qudience (i.e. green kids) would be happy to start with anything and learn from scratch.
[02:24] <RichEd> *audience
[02:25] <RichEd> but, in the words of bob dylan and many gospel choirs "we shall overcome"
[02:25] <RichEd> thanks all.
[02:25] <pschulz01> RichEd: np.
[02:26] <Elda> Yep.... thinking back I always wondered if I would have learned linux just as easily if Id been introduced to that rather than learning about windows through exposure
[02:26] <Elda> Heck when I got my first computer a lot of it was through a shell and a dos command line >.<
[02:26] <srn> i am 100% sure that if one were introduced to linux at first... they would go, hey that windows is all "LOLZ!! oneone ERROR"
[02:26] <Elda> still M$ but still
[02:27] <stojmir> hi
[02:27] <stojmir> i want to set up an ubuntu mirror
[02:27] <RichEd> Elda: if you're interested my argument is: start kids with Linux - they can go anywhere : start with Window$ and they become predjudiced
[02:27] <stojmir> can you point some instructions ?
[02:27] <Elda> LoL well as I get used to Linux, I think I may just keep windows around for games
[02:27] <fredl> aaaah, I FINALLY got my X700 Pro graphics board fully working again.
[02:28] <fredl> it turned out not to be a software/config problem but something as trivial as a broken fan -> RAM gets warm -> Video card messes up
[02:28] <lamego> RichEd, well, you could go over that, KDE or GNOME are just "skins" :P
[02:28] <fredl> ehr fgl_glxgears
[02:28] <Elda> I know, I started with windows.  But then again when I tried to get into linux at first I was scared away a few times... not just because of the idea that linux was something completely new but some of the attitudes I ran into while trying to understand/learn it
[02:28] <RichEd> Elda : as in Linux @ school -> Unix, Linux (hardcore sciences career or open minded commercial) or Linux @ school -> Window$ ata  conservative commercial company
[02:29] <fredl> Elda - that's not unusual.
[02:29] <Elda> Then thank god someone showed me Ubuntu which had some DECENT people willing to say a line besides RTFM
[02:29] <RichEd> but Window$  @ school normally -> Window$ forever :(
[02:29] <srn> trylleklovn@sherlock:~$ glxgears
[02:29] <srn> 25829 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5165.749 FPS
[02:29] <fredl> fgl_glxgears srn. That's something different.
[02:29] <Mkquist> srn-did u get an answer on the windows key thing?
[02:29] <srn> oh :D
[02:29] <srn> windows key?
[02:29] <Dimensions> bimberi: i have tried adding script into auto run on startup in rc.local ... but it isn't working ... i have one user account which i created while installing windows and another would be root ... so how can i setup this to the user account i had created by default ...
[02:30] <Elda> That was me wondering about that
[02:30] <fredl> fgl_glxgears is quite a bit heftier 3D than glxgears :)
[02:30] <Mkquist> sry
[02:30] <Elda> An nope, no answer >.,
[02:30] <srn> where can i get fgl_glcgears?'
[02:30] <srn> glx*
[02:30] <Mkquist> kde or gnome?
[02:30] <fredl> it comes with the ATI driver.
[02:30] <srn> ahh
[02:30] <Elda> Gnome
[02:31] !lilo:*! Hi all. New channel:  ##fuse, an unofficial discussion channel for the Linux kernel's FUSE userspace filesystem framework. If you're interested in FUSE applications etc., please stop by! Thanks.
[02:31] <bradbury9> stojmir, try in #ubuntu-mirrors ;-)
[02:31] <Mkquist> ok, i found a nice tut for kde, not sure about gnome tho, shows how to map keys
[02:31] <fredl> aaah, the bliss of running googleworld now
[02:31] <Mkquist> maybe nm then
[02:31] <Elda> ?
[02:31] <Elda> Oh well
[02:31] <Elda> Ill figure it out later, hehe
[02:31] <Mkquist> sry
[02:32] <Elda> So many things to learn!
[02:32] <Elda> No problem :)
[02:32] <fredl> that runs a LOT faster when you have hardware 3D again!!
[02:32] <Elda> Ive still got to start learning the command line
[02:32] <Healot> yes, Elda
[02:32] <Elda> I know/memorized a few things
[02:32] <bimberi> Dimensions: pardon? installing windows? did you add the script call before the line "exit 0" in rc.local?
[02:32] <Dimensions> another question is ... how can i auto login by default from shell instead of GUI Login windows (System-->> Preferences -->>Security -->Enable automatic) login
[02:32] <Dimensions> bimberi sorry by windows i meant OS
[02:33] <Elda> sudo, apget, mdir, cd, -mann, and that is about it so far >.>
[02:33] <Dimensions> yes i did bimberi ...
[02:33] <Healot> window
[02:33] <Mkquist> Elda-http://marius.scurtescu.com/?p=62 explains a bit
[02:33] <lamego> Dimensions, what are you tring to achieve ?
[02:33] <Healot> Windows is a registered trademark of Microsoft Corp :)
[02:33] <Mkquist> Elda-on the windows key question
[02:33] <Thunderpants> what is the switch option for glxgears to print ur framerate, something like glxgears - printframerate?
[02:34] <Dimensions> two things lamego ... one to auto start my script incase system power failure and second Enable remotely the Automatic login option for my computers which i can access via SSH ...
[02:34] <mistraal> -printfps
[02:34] <bimberi> Dimensions: if you want it to run when the user logs into the shell you can add it to .bash_profile in their home directory
[02:34] <Thunderpants> thx mistraal
[02:35] <bimberi> Dimensions: idk about auto-shell-login-at-boot though sorry
[02:37] <Dimensions> can u tell me how ... bimberi ? (.bash_profile)
[02:37] <lamego> Dimensions, why do you need to autologin in case of a power failure ?
[02:37] <webben> Would it be possible to increase the size of my swap partition
[02:38] <webben> according to top it's mostly being used up
[02:38] <sioux> Hi people I have a problem with ZD1211 driver provided on ubuntu it is unstable with my zyxel g-220 usb adapter, once I do wlan0 up it works ok but some after goes down and I can't up it anymore due to no such device. In dmesg I see these reports: when I set wlan0 up the dmesg says usbcore: registred new driver zd1211. When crash zd1205 (exit) zd1205_close, drivers/usb/net/zd1211/zd1205.c line 2696. Looking in dmesg I get also wlan0 (WE) : Driver
[02:38] <bimberi> Dimensions: edit it and add the call to the script
[02:38] <lamego> webben, it is, you will need to resize your paritions or crate file based swap
[02:39] <lamego> webben, what mem do you have and swap size ?
[02:39] <Elda> Well Ive got to go, class awaits.  Its been fun!
[02:40] <Dimensions> lamego ... well i have deployed some computer some where ... if power failure occurs and system reboots ... i can't manually login so i want to enable auto login for those systems ...
[02:40] <webben> lamego: about 312mb mem, 490mb or something swap
[02:41] <johnnybezak> hey guys, my gnome install has become broken. every time i boot into gnome iit pops up a bunch of errors about bonobo and gnome-settings-daemon, whats a good way of reinstalling gnome without having to reinstall a heap of other stuff?
[02:41] <lamego> Dimensions, why do you need to autologin to login ?
[02:42] <srn> hmm... okay i certainly improved my monitors setting now.. think it was the horizontal refreshrate that was set wrong
[02:42] <lamego> webben, ok, the standard rule is to have 2xmem as swap
[02:42] <srn> now the picture is sharp again :)
[02:42] <delire_> Dimensions: there's a gnome-session config file that allows you to set auto-login.
[02:42] <webben> lamego: what command should i be using to safely resize my partitions?
[02:42] <Dimensions> come up with a solution lamego ... can we disable login ? if system is starting it will come to login screen and ask for login etc ...
[02:42] <webben> lamego: a gui tool would be nice if one's available
[02:43] <Dimensions> delire_:  im accessing the computer via ssh ... how can i do that ?
[02:43] <Dimensions> i mean setting auto login
[02:44] <delire_> Dimensions: i don't know where the file is, i'm on Debian here. i'll have a look on another machine, hangon.
[02:44] <lamego> webben, boot from the live cd
[02:44] <lamego> and use the gnome partition editor
[02:44] <lamego> webben, never tried it myself, be carefull :P
[02:44] <Dimensions> thanks delire_
[02:45] <webben> lamego: it's not possible to do that from rescue mode or the install cd is it? my laptop with the CD writer is currently out of service thanks to a broken power cable
[02:46] <lamego> webben, i dont believe the text mode install cd allows to do resizing, i am not sure
[02:47] <h4ch3r> i see guys
[02:47] <Healot> you see what?
[02:48] <Phirax> has, anyone managed to get AUX in working with alsa?
[02:48] <delire_> Dimensions: try editing /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[02:49] <delire_> Dimensions: edit the line to "AutomaticLoginEnable=true" and add a username for "AutomaticLogin=<USERNAME>"
[02:50] <webben> lamego: thanks
[02:50] <kevor> Hi, after loggin in with GDM, my computer hangs for about 5 minutes...
[02:50] <Dimensions> thank you delire_ im trying it now ...
[02:51] <kevor> before i see the menu's and scuh, anyone a clue what this can be?
[02:54] <rr> kevor : no idea, but did have a look at the console when it's "hanging" ? try ctrl-alt-f1
[02:54] <kevor> rr: i've got /var/log/messages online: www.kev0r.nl/wtf
[02:54] <kevor> it's doing some strange gconf related stuff i guess
[02:55] <Dimensions> brb guys
[02:55] <kevor> bb
[02:55] <kevor> but after 5 minutes, the menu DOES get launched... :)
[02:57] <rr> kevor : do you get the slowness only at the first login after boot ?
[02:58] <rr> kevor : or every time
[02:58] <rr> kevor : i've no clue anyways ...
[03:00] <ramvi> I'm following a howto, to get Ubuntu to work on my new macbook pro (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233243). Where I'm suppost to get and install the modified version of grub onto the real HD (not the livecd-HD), I don't understand how I'm suppost to get the file chmoded... wget THE-FILE returns Resolving www.ubuntuforums.org... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution... Any ideas?
[03:01] <Thaur> ramvi, Why do you want to use Ubuntu, if you have OSX ?
[03:01] <bradbury9> ramvi check /etc/resolv.conf in the chroot
[03:02] <ramvi> Thaur, Ubuntu is so much better
[03:02] <Windy> *sigh* another hour, another newbie question...can someone tell me how to stop a drive from being shown on desktop? even better to stop linux from even bothering to acknowledge the drive's existence?
[03:02] <White-air> hi
[03:02] <ramvi> bradbury9: what do you mean with check it?
[03:02] <White-air> what is that for a channel?
[03:03] <Healot> what is what, White-air ?
[03:03] <bradbury9> it must exist and contain the dns server IP address
[03:03] <Thaur> ramvi, [not starting a war or anything]  Why do you think that?
[03:03] <White-air> taht channel what about it?
[03:03] <ramvi> First of all; it runs windows applications
[03:03] <rr> ramvi : try ping www.ubuntuforums.com
[03:03] <ramvi> And there's XGL
[03:03] <White-air> http://neighbours-clan.de.tt/
[03:04] <bradbury9> in the gentoo install manual they copy the etc/resolv.conf into the chroot enviroment
[03:04] <White-air> here is a good site
[03:04] <ramvi> rr:
[03:04] <ramvi> ping: unknown host www.ubuntuforums.org
[03:04] <Thaur> ramvi, mmmmh, XGL <3 :P. Good points. I thought you could get Wine for OSX ?
[03:04] <White-air> its a mistake you must often go on it
[03:04] <ramvi> Thaur: I didn't know that
[03:04] <orbin> Windy: run gconf-editor ... then navigate to /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible and disable it
[03:04] <rr> ramvi : u need to fix ur dns resolving , like bradbury9 mentioned
[03:05] <Q-FUNK> is there an offocial tool in ubuntu (gnome) to list all avalable wifi access points?
[03:05] <ramvi> rr: Okay..? :) Thanks by the way..
[03:05] <ramvi> rr: but what do I do?
[03:05] <Linuturk_code> Q-FUNK, network manager
[03:05] <ramvi> Q-FUNK: get nm-applet
[03:05] <Thaur> ramvi, I might be wrong, but I Can't see why there woulden't be one
[03:05] <rr> ramvi : enter the ip address of your providers name server in /etc/resolv.conf
[03:06] <d2812> can anybody recomend a usb bluetooth dongle that will work in dapper?
[03:06] <ramvi> rr: My ISP's IP? How do I get that? :P
[03:06] <Healot> d2812, any i would say
[03:06] <Q-FUNK> ramvi: thanks :)
[03:06] <esculapius> hi ,anyone could help me to install ati drivers for my ATI mobile U1 on Ubuntu Dapper? is it necessary to activate S-video (tvout)? True? i followed the wiki but changing xorg.conf at the rebooting the OS started in text mode, saying that the video card was not correctly configured
[03:06] <bradbury9> not your ISP but your DNS IP
[03:06] <ramvi> Q-FUNK: Any time :)
[03:06] <rr> a line that says : nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[03:06] <crouchingMonkey> is there a way to reset all of my icons and menus to a default in ubuntu 5.10 ? my sister sortta messed them up
[03:06] <d2812> Healot: Cool. Just wanted to check first :) Thanks.
[03:07] <Q-FUNK> ramvi: does this also handle hotplugging of network devces?
[03:07] <bradbury9> ramvi, try cp /etc/resolv.conf /path-to-chroot/etc/resolv.conf
[03:07] <Healot> d2812, so far no incompatibiltity found
[03:07] <rr> ramvi : lol no, the ip of your nameserver :-)
[03:07] <bradbury9> bye!
[03:08] <White-air> http://neighbours-clan.de.tt/
[03:08] <White-air> zvote for us
[03:08] <Healot> wtf?
[03:09] <ramvi> When trying to copy I get: cp: cannot create regular file `/mnt/ubuntu/etc/resolv.conf': No such file or directory
[03:09] <ramvi> rr: How do I get the IP of my nameserver? ;)
[03:09] <ramvi> Q-FUNK: hotplugging?
[03:10] <White-air> http://neighbours-clan.de.tt/
[03:10] <White-air> VOTEN
[03:10] <Thunderpants> !ops
[03:10] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[03:10] <orbin> ramvi: what command did you use to copy?
[03:10] <ramvi> When I'm chmoded into my realHD. How do I get a file from the livecd-HD?
[03:10] <gnomefreak> Thunderpants: ?
[03:10] <White-air> PLEASE VOTE
[03:10] <White-air> http://neighbours-clan.de.tt/
[03:11] <Thunderpants> White-air, spamming
[03:11] <gnomefreak> oops
[03:11] <ramvi> orbin: cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/ubuntu/etc/resolv.conf
[03:11] <Thunderpants> n1 ompaul
[03:12] <Kragnerac> Hello, is there a repository that lets you upgrade from Breezy to Dapper?
[03:12] <ramvi> I made it! Thanks!!
[03:12] <hayden> when doing an rsync does it remove files from the destination folder that arent in the source folder?
[03:13] <orbin> ramvi: *nod* you needed to make the /mnt/ubuntu/etc/ dir first
[03:14] <weirdo> im not sure how to get networkmanager to use my wireless card
[03:14] <weirdo> i got it installed and rebooted... but it doesnt do anything with my card
[03:14] <amee2k> after i inserted a new TV card into my ubuntu 6.06 desktop box, the volume keys on my keyboard don't work anymore. since the OSD always shows muted and volume 0% is suppose it is trying to use the audio device of the TV card which is only intended for capture. Q: how do i change which device is used by the volume keys?
[03:15] <weirdo> im connected thru it with the default network tools though
[03:15] <weirdo> anyone?
[03:16] <Windy> err...can i hide a particular partition and stop it from showing up on desktop?
[03:16] <Dimensions> how do i add a script to auto run on startup i have tried it via rc.local but that works only as super user ...
[03:16] <Windy> i tried disabling it via disk-manager but it shows up again on reboot
[03:16] <Ng> Dimensions: if you want to run something as a regular user at bootup, you can use their crontab with a special time of "@reboot"
[03:17] <Dimensions> how can i configure it ... Ng ... my second task is to auto dial on cron too but i donno abt it ...
[03:17] <orbin> Windy: if it's just a particular partition, you can stop it automounting by removing the relevant line in /etc/fstab
[03:18] <Windy> orbin: err...sorry i'm a linux nublet, explain please?
[03:18] <thotz> windy type "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[03:18] <Ng> Dimensions: as that user, run "crontab -e" and put a line in the file of "@reboot /path/to/some/script.sh"
[03:18] <Windy> oh fstab is a file :/
[03:18] <thotz> in the terminal
[03:18] <Windy> thought it was a folder or something
[03:18] <Windy> gotcha, sec
[03:18] <Windy> lol i only figured out gedit like 30mins ago :(
[03:19] <orbin> should use gksudo fro gui apps: gksudo 'gedit /etc/fstab'
[03:19] <orbin> s/fro/for
[03:19] <gionnico> hi
[03:19] <amee2k> Q: how do i change which device is used by the volume multimedia keys?
[03:20] <Thunderpants> why is that orbin, what diff does it make? out of interest
[03:20] <Windy> cool, thanks
[03:20] <orbin> Thunderpants: apparently it can stuff up sudo
[03:20] <Windy> umm...
[03:20] <Windy> i did it via gedit
[03:20] <Thunderpants> i c
[03:20] <Windy> with just sudo
[03:20] <Windy> is that gonna cause a major crash of some sort?
[03:20] <ompaul> Windy, no
[03:21] <Windy> excellent.
 is that gonna cause a major crash of some sort? --> your own stupidity
[03:21] <Windy> i've gone through two of those already
[03:21] <d2812> Thunderpants : Plus its useful if you want it to background your command
[03:21] <Windy> meng: usually is.
[03:21] <ompaul> Windy, however use gksudo in all cases to prevent other issues
[03:21] <Windy> err
[03:21] <Windy> so gksudo > sudo?
[03:21] <Thunderpants> d2812, i thought the ampersand backgrounds the command
[03:22] <ompaul> Windy, no it is appropriate if your using a gui app
[03:22] <exs> If I get a dual core processor, will ubuntu take advantage of it?
[03:22] <d2812> Thunderpants: Yes, but if I do sudo updatedb &
[03:22] <d2812> Thunderpants: I cant type my password
[03:22] <Thunderpants> d2812, i understand, thx
[03:22] <Windy> hmm rightio then
[03:22] <Dimensions> Ng:  is this file an empty one ... crontab ? i have nothing in it but "# m h dom mon dow command"  the the line to be put before that line or what
 If I get a dual core processor, will ubuntu take advantage of it? --> use an SMP kernel
[03:23] <Ng> Dimensions: after
[03:23] <sioux> people do you know about some problem with usb hotplug?
[03:24] <skroll> Anyone happen to know of a mp3 decoder that produces gapless output (when using the appropriate metadata, of course), or at least CD burning software that supports this feature?
 people do you know about some problem with usb hotplug? --> i can't use USB winmodems
[03:24] <orbin> exs: default kernel has smp support iirc
[03:25] <sioux> meng me unstable usb wireless and from dmesg seems a usb pci problem
[03:25] <d2812> amee2k: any other tips for the console?
[03:25] <amee2k> hehe
[03:25] <orbin> skroll: wouldn't the gaps be more of a player issue?
[03:25] <sioux> small packetc are passed ok
 meng me unstable usb wireless and from dmesg seems a usb pci problem --> wakaranai (don't know) coz i don't use 802.11
[03:26] <skroll> orbin: unfortunately, no.  when decoded by most software, there is actual silence in the tracks
[03:26] <sioux> bigger packets are stopped
[03:26] <Thunderpants> im thinking about buying a new laptop with duo core cpu and sata150 hdd, will ubuntu be ok with them?
 the "optimized" kernels are a little better
[03:26] <orbin> skroll: ah, ok...well what rippers have you tried?
[03:26] <amee2k> d2812: well, you can use fg to get a backgrounded app back and bg to make it continue execution on background
[03:27] <skroll> orbin: rippers?  I've used LAME to decode, as well as Gstreamer output.
[03:27] <orbin> meng: the *-smp ones? ah ok
[03:27] <amee2k> d2812: or googlt for a terminal howto. i suppose there are quite a few
[03:27] <neutrinomass> Thunderpants: Yes. I have a SATA disk and a core duo and it works fine
[03:27] <Thunderpants> brilliant! thx neutrinomass
[03:28] <neutrinomass> Thunderpants: Just one word of advice: If you go with 6.06 (and not 6.06.1) make sure you update the kernel (there were some fixes - it was very disappointing without those updates )
[03:28] <neutrinomass> Thunderpants: It was something related to the CPU - it has been fixed though :)
[03:28] <Thunderpants> gotcha neutrinomass thx for the heads-up
[03:28] <skroll> orbin: here is my predicament: latest stable version of LAME (one in ubuntu repos) is 3.96.1, which doesn't cut off the trailing padded frames, while latest CVS version does accomodate for the ending frams.
[03:28] <d2812> amee2k : I've found screen useful for running things in the background, espically when I have to ssh in, but i've never picked up the console shortcuts. Screen is a pretty usefull program :)
[03:28] <skroll> orbin: however, I have used 2 programs in Windows that fix this (foobar2000 and Burrrn) which fix this automatically.
[03:29] <uberspaced> anybody know what PCI device to specify for a graphics card located on a docking station?
[03:29] <uberspaced> on a laptop?
[03:29] <amee2k> d2812: yeah. irssi+screen+ssh rocks :)
[03:29] <skroll> uberspaced: it's different for different devices/manufacturers
[03:29] <uberspaced> i know it's vague; but is there anything I should look for?  windows shows the device as an nvidia graphics card
[03:29] <uberspaced> but an lspci shows only one; and it also shows an intel graphics bridge
[03:30] <uberspaced> but it's like 50/50 whether or not it could point to the correct device
[03:30] <d2812> amee2k : add rtorrent to that list as well. The backspace problem is annoying as the two fixes I found didnt work for me, and I dont have any time to experiment at the moment.
[03:30] <skroll> uberspaced: what laptop is it/
[03:30] <neutrinomass> uberspaced: I'm not exactly sure what you're looking for ... could you pasteBIN the output of 'lspci -vv' ?
[03:30] <exs> orbin,  What's "iirc" mean?
[03:30] <uberspaced> it's a dell latitude d820
[03:30] <skroll> uberspaced: what kind of graphics card is it?
[03:31] <amee2k> uberspaced: man laptops only connect the output from the internal video card to the docing connector for convenience and do not feature a second adapter for the docking bay video output
[03:31] <neutrinomass> exs: If I Remember Correctly
[03:31] <ompaul> !timetable > skroll
[03:31] <uberspaced> skroll, windows shows it as nvidia; there are 2 nvidia cards total
[03:31] <uberspaced> but only one shows up in lspci
[03:31] <uberspaced> i'll pasted -vv
[03:31] <uberspaced> * i'll paste -vv
[03:31] <neutrinomass> !pastebin > uberspaced
[03:32] <neutrinomass> uberspaced: Make sure you use pastebin though :-)
[03:32] <skroll> wait, why did I get the timetable thing?
[03:32] <ompaul> skroll, the reason it is not going to be in ubuntu at this stage has been sent to you in a message by the bot
[03:32] <amee2k> hey, folks, how can i change which audio device is controlled by the volume multimedia keys?
[03:32] <Kennyout> at what point is one suppose to try "fdisk -l" with the cd?
[03:32] <lincr> is there a service that automagically seeks network connectivity?
[03:32] <ompaul> skroll, you can compile it yourself if you have an issue with that do /msg ubotu compile
[03:32] <orbin> skroll: you're going out of my knowledge tbh...i mostly use oggenc and i don't even know if that's gapless.
[03:32] <exs> neutrinomass,  "Hyperthreading is still elusive. Ubuntu installed the 2.6.8 kernel but not an SMP flavor. I was too lazy to go through the hassle of building an SMP kernel and so it runs UP."
[03:33] <orbin> exs: if i remember correctly
[03:33] <skroll> ompaul: oh I udnerstand that it's not going to be in ubuntu, in fact, it shouldn't because it's not a stable release yet.  I'm just looking for alternatives.
[03:33] <lincr> my machine keeps trying to connect wirelessly
[03:33] <uberspaced> skroll, it's an nvidia card
[03:33] <skroll> orbin: ogg is gapless for sure.
[03:33] <uberspaced> crap
[03:33] <uberspaced> never mind
[03:33] <lincr> disassociates my other machine
[03:33] <ompaul> skroll, ahh okay
[03:33] <uberspaced> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21285
[03:34] <skroll> orbin: when mp3s are encoded, mp3 decoders insert padded frames that contain silence (it has something to do wtih the codec), but the LAME encoder inserts some data that tells exactly how many frames are inserted, so decoders can cut those off later to make a totally gapless track.
[03:36] <neutrinomass> uberspaced: (redundant comment) Yes, it is an nvidia card
[03:37] <uberspaced> well, i just installed the nvidia-glx or something; i dont know if i have to reboot before that stuff takes affect
[03:37] <shai_> Does the ubuntu live CD include apt?
[03:38] <neutrinomass> talisker[w] : Yes, you can install programs on it ...
[03:40] <zithowa> what key do i press to indicate end of file?
[03:40] <talisker[w] > How about the knoppix CD?
[03:40] <zithowa> ctrl-d doesn't seem to do anything
[03:40] <neutrinomass> talisker[w] : No idea - this is an Ubuntu support channel :-)
[03:40] <neutrinomass> zithowa: What are you trying to do? ctrl+d is EOF in the terminal ....
[03:41] <zithowa> whoops, i didn't have the window in focus
[03:41] <zithowa> neutrinomass: thanks
[03:42] <uberspaced> alrighty, i think i'mma try some things.  may be back.
[03:43] <ed_> Hey Guys, new to Linux and Ubuntu Dapper here, a quicky on the Dreaded Wireless networking: The default bcm43xx drivers aren't working for my card and last time I tried to blacklist these and use the (recognised) driver in ndiswrapper my system didn't boot past the configuring network options, clean install now :S, What's the proper/better way to go about doing this?
[03:44] <orbin> talisker[w] : well isn't knoppix debian based too ... so yeah, probably
[03:44] <neutrinomass> !bcm
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bcm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <neutrinomass> !wireless
[03:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:44] <ed_> Appreciated, cheers guys
[03:44] <neutrinomass> ed_: Take a look at that link :) Be back if you have problems
[03:45] <ed_> thx
[03:45] <orbin> ed_: i assume you've already seen this then: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[03:48] <ed_> Yeah, I tired to blacklist the bcm43xx driver from startup and activate the ndiswrappered driver, and the OS just wouldn't boot, maybe I got the order wrong, also perhaps " ' " was wrong, I gather there is a different " ' " to the one some people think? but i'm not sure  of a special command for a correct one
[03:49] <orbin> ed_: apostrophe
[03:49] <ed_> uhhuh
[03:49] <sioux> people I try to debug my zyxel g-220 using the driver zd1211 provided by default on ubuntu
[03:49] <orbin> ed_: that command basically just adds the line "blacklist bcm43xx to the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist text file
[03:49] <sioux> the problem seems reside in communication at usb level
[03:50] <haasteem> hello, it looks like i have a kernel problem... i tried to install ubuntu dapper (upgrade from breezy) and i have an asus a7v 8x-x motherboard with a via kt400 chipset... i was told this causes problems and that there is a patch for it... it this correct?
[03:50] <sioux> in particular in frames length info
[03:50] <ed_> Something I read also told me to then write "rmmod bcm43xx" followed by "rmmod ndiswrapper", though being new, I haven't a clue what this does
[03:51] <lupine_> stops the driver from running, essentially
[03:51] <ed_> ic
[03:51] <humano> Hola
[03:51] <lupine_> then you'd 'modprobe' (start) the driver that you wanted
[03:52] <sioux> here is my experiment: I am running a small telnet app with my ap (just 1K o 2K bytes) and it is working till 1hour
[03:52] <ed_> And if I missed that modprobe line out, would that explain why my system hung at boot?
[03:52] <sioux> bus soon i run mozilla and I surf a little the usb stop to work
[03:52] <erUSUL> haasteem: what is exactly the problem? a kt400 should be totally supported...
[03:52] <humano> mi primera vez en Ubuntu, mi primera vez en Linux, mi primera vez en XCHAT ... que canal para escojo para nuevos usuarios ?
[03:52] <erUSUL> !commands > ed_
[03:53] <haasteem> erUSUL: i don<t know... i was told it is a known issue and that there is a patch for it...
[03:53] <erUSUL> ed_: rm erases files (rm == remove)
[03:53] <stack_> I'm following the directions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryHowto to set up my box to authenticate off of our central server,  'getent passwd' shows my network users.  'getent group' doesn't show my network groups... anyone have experience with this?
[03:53] <haasteem> erUSUL: basically, my sound stopped working...
[03:53] <lupine_> ed: no - not loading this module wouldn't cause system instability
[03:54] <lupine_> take a look at the solution given here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239982
[03:54] <erUSUL> haasteem: well i do not know of any patch circulating around..
[03:54] <rkd> what program should i use to display v4l input from my webcam?
[03:54] <lupine_> they were all using ndiswrapper as well, so it *does* work
[03:55] <haasteem> erUSUL: i looked on launchpad and lkml and could not find it... it is a bit strange...
[03:55] <lupine_> just make sure that you've got the latest version, seems to be the crux of the matter
[03:55] <haasteem> erUSUL: anyways, as things stand now i'm going back to breezy...
[03:55] <erUSUL> haasteem: kt400 is not a very new chipset it should be totally supported in the 2.6.15 kernel that comes with ubuntu...
[03:56] <erUSUL> haasteem: have you reported your problem in lounchpad?
[03:57] <haasteem> erUSUL: yup, bug number 56878 if you want to check it...
[03:58] <erUSUL> haasteem: btw the integrated sound is the southbridge (vt8xxx in via mb)
[03:58] <ed_> ok cheers all, I'll go bury myself under 1 tonne of Webpage help now, hey, craching my ubuntu install roughly reflects how I started with windows 15 odd years ago, so it's not that discouraging!  I suspect a few months of playing with terminal commands which may wipe the drive could be a good way to learn again :-D
[03:59] <haasteem> erUSUL: ahh... ok, the person i talked to asked me for the northbridge btw
[04:00] <buntu418> hw to fully use creative prodikeys midi keyboard.. plss help
[04:01] <surgy> hello
[04:01] <surgy> can someone help me?
[04:01] <daveb> so I have hibernate working, suspend to ram seems to work, but the screen doesn't turn back on. I want to try vbetools, but don't know where to put the commands to save/restore the video state. I am using powersaved (using Dapper, upgraded last week)
[04:01] <erUSUL> haasteem: have you tried the recomendations of chen in launchpad?
[04:01] <surgy> anyone mind letting a noob anoy them for a few minutes?
[04:02] <erUSUL> !anyone
[04:02] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:02] <gan|y|med> hello
[04:02] <gan|y|med> where is the ifstate file stored in ubuntu?
[04:02] <surgy> ok ill just ask my question :)
[04:03] <lupine_> slocate ifstate suggests /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/contrib/ifstate
[04:03] <surgy> when i try to access my hardrive containing my ntfs partition it says it cannot mount the device becuase it is not removable
[04:03] <Kennyout> Does anyone/anybody know at what point to type in "fdisk -l" when attemtpting to install Ubuntu to see if partitions are showing up?
[04:03] <erUSUL> gan|y|med: sudo 'find / -name '*ifstate' -print'
[04:04] <haasteem> erUSUL: yes, with no positive result
[04:04] <gan|y|med> thx, i am checking
[04:04] <lupine_> kennyout: right after or before the partitioner has done it's job would be the best bet. If you hit F2, it'll give you a terminal window
[04:04] <surgy> i guess no one knows then?
[04:04] <gan|y|med> on emom
[04:04] <haasteem> erUSUL: he was the one who told me about the kernel problem, btw
[04:04] <Kennyout> okay thankyou for that info lupine_
[04:06] <bobovski> good morning #ubuntu
[04:06] <surgy> good morning
[04:06] <daveb> so anyone using vbetool on a laptop for suspend to ram?
[04:06] <Kennyout> lupine_ okay when i go to do that, and if it fails to see the parititions...what should I do?
[04:06] <surgy> man i didnt realize i whould have this much problems accesing a simple jpg :(
[04:07] <pebkac> ugh.  the update to compiz made everything, including tooltips, do that stupid wobbly appear effect.
[04:07] <dalfz> any wmp plugin for firefox?
[04:08] <lupine_> kennyout: erm. panic? :D -- seriously, it should find them. make sure you specify the right drive (e.g. /dev/hda); and that there is actually a partition table on it
[04:08] <orbin> surgy: how are you accessing the partition?
[04:08] <lupine_> if it's not finding the drive at all, then you're probably using some esoteric hard drive/controller that I know nothing about
[04:09] <surgy> orbin: pmed you
[04:09] <n3ko> pebkac: i like this tooltip apearing
[04:09] <orbin> surgy: you're not id'ed ... i didn't get it
[04:09] <Kennyout> okay lupine_ good info to know, well its Sata and Nforce 4....
[04:09] <orbin> surgy: best to keep it in the channel anyway jic i can't help you
[04:09] <bobovski> dalfz: that's a little complex. I think the best way is to install mplayer and get the plugin for that. I'd love to hear if anyone has a better suggestion
[04:10] <pebkac> i don't like it on the menus
[04:10] <pebkac> and i can't find where to turn it off..
[04:10] <n3ko> pebkac: not like on the menus too
[04:10] <surgy> well im registered now
[04:10] <bobovski> dalfz: problem is, mplayer's kind of tricky to install...unless someone knows an apt source for it
[04:10] <n3ko> you can only turn off globaly
[04:10] <Ng> mplayer is available in the regular repositories
[04:11] <pebkac> where?
[04:11] <Ng> it's in multiverse
[04:11] <Ng> !info mplayer
[04:11] <Kennyout> lupine_ is it sugested to while going for "Live" mode that one use a VGA cable over a DVI cable for ATI cards?
[04:11] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[04:11] <surgy> well im accesing the partition on the gnome desktop by going to places/computer/hd1
[04:11] <dalfz> bobovski, i think i saw a package called mplayer, or do you mean the plugin ofit?
[04:11] <Ng> the firefox mplayer plugin is in the repositories too, it's mozilla-mplayer
[04:11] <Ng> if that's what you mean
[04:11] <lupine_> bobovski: "deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free" perhaps?
[04:12] <orbin> surgy: how did you mount it in the first place?  or was it already mounted for you?
[04:12] <lupine_> kennyout: not a clue. I'm a nvdidia person ;)
[04:12] <lupine_> if unsure, go for the lowest-tech option
[04:12] <surgy> orbin: allready mounted with read access
[04:12] <bobovski> dalfz: guess it's all in the repos now, sweet
[04:12] <bobovski> thanks lupine, Ng
[04:12] <sioux> aioaioaioaio  ubuntu people I think ubuntu has kernel problems...  it support USB2.0?
[04:12] <n3ko> remove the compiz wobbly paramter
[04:13] <Ng> sioux: it supports USB2.0, yes
[04:13] <surgy> orbin: if it makes a dif im running ubuntu 64
[04:13] <orbin> surgy: press alt+f2, then run: gksudo 'gedit /etc/fstab'
[04:13] <lupine_> sioux: what driver are you using?
[04:13] <orbin> surgy: shouldn't matter
[04:14] <n3ko> or you may try with gconf-editor
[04:14] <n3ko> somewhere in apps -> compiz
[04:14] <hector__> hola
[04:14] <Bogaurd> has anybody here compiled 2.6.15-26-server with IMQ support?
[04:14] <Kennyout> okay thankyou lupine_ you have been very, very helpful
[04:14] <hector__> alguien me pudiera ayudar a instalar amsn
[04:14] <lupine_> np
[04:14] <sioux> ng once loaded as defalut the zd1211 driver the usb wireless adapter seems went ok since when linux crashed. now is all freze. mouse keyboard all freezed. I followed the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/zydas_zd1211?highlight=%28WifiDocs%29%7C%28ManufacturerModel%29%7C%28AND%29
[04:14] <surgy> orbin: couldnt run that
[04:15] <orbin> !es
[04:15] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:15] <surgy> orbin: can we tlak in pm
[04:15] <bobovski> well, then. Anyone know of an mplayer plugin that works for opera?
[04:15] <Kennyout> now i must go....the lawn is calling me....and they must be reaped....then i will go to attempt to install
[04:15] <surgy> orbin: xchat is weird and hurting my eyes with its tiny fonts
[04:15] <licio> !br
[04:15] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:15] <Ng> sioux: I'd be more tempted to suggest it's the zd1211 driver than the USB2 support in the kernel
[04:15] <hector__> alguien me podria ayudar a instalar amsn
[04:15] <haasteem> erUSUL: do you follow kernel development?
[04:16] <orbin> licio: whoops :)
[04:16] <ailean> !es
[04:16] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:16] <licio> orbin, :)
[04:16] <ailean> hector__, pero si puede hablar ingls . . .
[04:16] <hector__> no
[04:16] <lupine_> so you installed the latest version of the zd1211 driver?
[04:17] <hector__> no se ingles
[04:17] <ailean> ok pues, va a #ubuntu-es
[04:17] <anabain> anyone with ASUS M2NPV-VM geforce6150/430?
[04:17] <hector__> como le hago
[04:17] <sioux> ng the zd1211 driver require the ehci-hcd  module but it is not loaded by ubuntu
[04:17] <hector__> para ir a es
[04:17] <lupine_> or are you using the one that came with the kernel?
[04:17] <ailean> "/join #ubuntu-es"
[04:17] <licio> hector__, /j #ubuntu-es
[04:17] <orbin> so which is it?  spanish or portugese? :-/
[04:17] <ailean> o /j :)
[04:17] <ailean> orbin, spanish
[04:17] <licio> orbin, spanish
[04:17] <hector__> lo copio
[04:17] <hector__> o en donde lo tecleo eso
[04:18] <orbin> licio: you confused me :P
[04:18] <licio> orbin, sorry.. hehehe
[04:18] <ailean> en el espacio al bajo
[04:18] <Ng> sioux: does it not crash if you load that first?
[04:18] <hector__>  "/join #ubuntu-es"
[04:18] <erUSUL> haasteem: yes
[04:18] <ailean> sin los "s
[04:18] <hector__>  /join #ubuntu-es
[04:18] <sioux> ng now i try to load that module
[04:18] <ailean> e sin el espacio
[04:18] <ailean> y
[04:19] <Ng> !es
[04:19] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:19] <haasteem> erUSUL: and you haven't heard of such a patch then?
[04:19] <ailean> Ng, we KNOW!
[04:19] <erUSUL> haasteem: but as i said i do not remember any problems related to the comon via southbridges...
[04:19] <ailean> i'm trying to get him there
[04:19] <orbin> hehe
[04:19] <Ng> ailean: I saw lots of lines of people utterly failing to communicate, so I thought I'd try something with a slightly higher chance of success :)
[04:19] <haasteem> erUSUL: right, but chen specifically asked me what northbridge i have...
[04:19] <ailean> we did that several times already :)
[04:19] <Ng> then call the ops *shrug*
[04:19] <ailean> i'd say he's away now
[04:19] <erUSUL> haasteem: no sorry. maybe i can not remember. you can use google... use the name of the southbridge or of the mb
[04:20] <haasteem> erUSUL: i tried... but couldn't find it... maybe it's just me... :s
[04:21] <erUSUL> haasteem: if you are brave you can try to build your own vanilla kernel from kernel.org
[04:21] <erUSUL> !kernel
[04:21] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:21] <philth> I ran fsck and it put damn near everything in to lost+found. Any idea why it did this and even perhaps how to revert back?
[04:21] <haasteem> erUSUL: whouahhh... ;-)
[04:21] <haasteem> erUSUL: i'm afraid i don't really have time for that...
[04:22] <Ng> philth: if it can recover the data of a file, but not its original name/path it puts it there. there is no automated way to turn all those files back into a correctly organised filesystem (that I know of)
[04:22] <lupine_> haasteem: takes about half an hour
[04:22] <billybennett> is there any way to boost volume when your using alsa-oss ?
[04:22] <lupine_> I'm running on vanilla 2.6.17.9, and it's much faster
[04:23] <philth> Ng, The computer was booting fine before this, I ran fsck out of curiosity in Single User mode. Any idea why it put most everything (Home Dir's) in there?
[04:23] <hector__> en espaol estan re gueyes
[04:23] <hector__> nadie habla
[04:23] <orbin> billybennett: crank pcm in volume control?
[04:23] <erUSUL> haasteem: it is not that difficult
[04:23] <haasteem> lupine_: is that so?
[04:23] <hector__> yo creo que a nadie le interesa el ubuntu en espaos
[04:24] <erUSUL> !es
[04:24] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:24] <jpjacobs> !es > hector__
[04:24] <lupine_> YMMV, of course :)
[04:24] <haasteem> erUSUL: ok
[04:24] <erUSUL> !kernel > haasteem
[04:24] <hector__> mande
[04:24] <Ng> I think hector is trying to say that ubuntu-es is empty ;)
[04:24] <Ng> but I don't speak spanish
[04:24] <haasteem> erUSUL: i saw it...
[04:24] <Ng> philth: hmm, that is rather strange
[04:24] <billybennett> orbin, it is I'm on a laptop and the volume is all the way up
[04:24] <erUSUL> Ng: i'm there
[04:24] <lupine_> pity you can't gateway it (ubuntu-es) to intertran
[04:24] <Ng> erUSUL: ah :)
[04:25] <Ng> erUSUL: I guessed that "nadie habla" meant "nobody there" or so ;)
[04:25] <orbin> billybennett: master and pcm?
[04:25] <ailean> Ng, he says that he thinks no one is interested in ubuntu in spanish
[04:25] <billybennett> orbin, yep everything :(
[04:25] <mompe> nobody speak Ng :)
[04:25] <ailean> hector, no es verdad, hay #ubuntu-es
[04:25] <erUSUL> Ng: well i have not seen hector ask anything there is all i can say... but is true that is a very quiet channel
[04:26] <ailean> hector__, habla francs o otro idioma?
[04:26] <ailean> there are 32 people in #ubuntu-es
[04:27] <ailean> and people are talking there - y la gente hablando en #ubuntu-es
[04:30] <wheelswitch> -P, --parallel[=N]        download N files in parallel  <---- How would i use this switch to download 3 files in parallel?
[04:31] <longwave> wheelswitch: either "-P 3" or "--parallel=3" as part of the command line
[04:31] <wheelswitch> -P 3 doesnt work
[04:31] <sioux> ng no crash as well
[04:31] <wheelswitch> for some reason
[04:31] <wheelswitch> trying --parral...
[04:32] <hector__> ea alguien tiene un tutorial que me mande
[04:33] <drayen_> How do i remove a package (powernowd) without removeing the whole kubuntu-desktop package as well?
[04:34] <decent> i am trying to compile gaim but i get an error that says libXrender.la is missing. i read on the ubuntu forums that this file was purposely left out of the distribution. does anyone know how i can get it?
[04:34] <kyubi_kitsune> anyone knows of a good backup tool for ubuntu?
[04:34] <Dr4g> I'm trying to find a link to download LAMP for ubuntu 6.06, i can't see anything on www.onlamp.com, can someone point me in the right direction please..... ?
[04:34] <Dr4g> -
[04:35] <Ng> sioux: sounds like you should file a bug then :)
[04:35] <longwave> !lamp
[04:35] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:35] <Ng> !bugs > sioux
[04:35] <kyubi_kitsune> anyone knows of a good backup tool for ubuntu?
[04:35] <wheelswitch> crontab and bash scripts
[04:35] <wheelswitch> kyubi_kitsune:  what do you want to backup?
[04:36] <wheelswitch> !backup
[04:36] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[04:36] <kyubi_kitsune> thanks
[04:36] <califfo> hi all, I'm looking for a ftp-server which uses encryption for transfers between my small server and my friends' pcs? can u help me?
[04:37] <BlueEagle> califfo: can't any ftp server run on an ssl connection?
[04:37] <Dr4g> califfo: look for server using SFTP, its FTP working on SSH connections
[04:37] <kevor> Hello, i'm having a "error opening security policy file" error, does anyone know how i can fix this?
[04:37] <kevor> the error is located in my xorg.log file
[04:37] <chungaroo> I'm trying to compile install a program from a tar.bz2 source file and when i try to do the make command, i get: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[04:37] <longwave> vsftpd and proftpd amongst others support SSL transfers i believe
[04:38] <califfo> longwave I think they support TLS only
[04:38] <BlueEagle> chungaroo: please read the accompanying INSTALL file.
[04:38] <neutrinomass> chungaroo: You didn't run "./configure" . Before compiling though check that it doesn't exist in the repositories ...
[04:38] <chungaroo> i already ran ./configure
[04:38] <neutrinomass> chungaroo: Generally speaking, compile as a very last resort ...
[04:39] <neutrinomass> chungaroo: Then read INSTALL or README (make sure you have "build-essential" installed as well )
[04:39] <BlueEagle> and that you're in the directory where you unpacked the files to
[04:39] <orbin> chungaroo: what program?
[04:39] <chungaroo> it's a gaim guifications plugin
[04:39] <orbin> kevor: does that stop X from loading?
[04:40] <chungaroo> nevermind..it's in the repo
[04:41] <kevor> orbin: after filling in name and password, it hangs for like 5-10 minutes
[04:41] <kevor> then it eventually loads
[04:42] <orbin> kevor: has this always happened?
[04:43] <orbin> chungaroo: why i asked :)
[04:43] <drayen_> anyone know the AMD equiv of "modprobe speedstep-centrino", trying to follow http://martin.ankerl.org/2006/08/16/how-to-make-firefox-40-percent-faster/
[04:45] <califfo> uhm, but with sftp would be a user have access to only a folder?
[04:45] <bobjones_> Hi all, can some one please help me setting up a ubuntu netboot server using dnsmasq as the dhcp server?
[04:45] <kaot> ...tornado of souls is a megadeth song, isn't it?
[04:45] <kaot> heh it is
[04:46] <BlueEagle> califfo: That would probably depend  on how you set it up
[04:46] <gary[ubuntu] > how do I get software updates to stop bugging me about updating my patched wine?
[04:46] <califfo> u right, so is it possible?
[04:46] <BlueEagle> califfo: If nothing else works just stick it in a chroot jail
[04:46] <kevor> orbin: it happens everytime, i just installed Ubuntu
[04:46] <virogenesis> hi all
[04:47] <erkintek> hi, I'm trying to play music on kubuntu
[04:48] <orbin> kevor: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org chuck the whole log file onto the pastebin
[04:48] <Jenga> hey
[04:49] <orbin> erkintek: and ... :)
[04:50] <kevor> orbin: i may have found a solution
[04:50] <erkintek> orbin: and cant play, I thought it is a distribution issue
[04:50] <Thunderpants> !codecs
[04:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:51] <gottreu> What's the best way to install Dapper with most development libraries on a computer with dial-up?  At work I have a very fast connect, so could I just burn all the packages I need to extra CD's and point apt (or whatever) to the CD's?
[04:51] <Thunderpants> erkintek, u mean u cant play mp3's?
[04:51] <kevor> orbin: i've managed to get rid of the error, but it still hangs after loggin in...
[04:52] <erkintek> yep, on fedora I had installed XMMS from the source
[04:52] <Thunderpants> erkintek, google easy ubuntu
[04:52] <orbin> erkintek: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[04:52] <Thunderpants> erkintek, easy ubuntu will load all the files u need
[04:53] <Thunderpants> erkintek, http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[04:53] <erkintek> I am converting my mp3 to ogg,
[04:53] <erkintek> :) the easiest way I found
[04:53] <srn> wtf.. automatix have overwritten my apt.sources!?
[04:53] <Thunderpants> easy ubuntu will load the files for that erkintek
[04:53] <orbin> erkintek: not ideal though...i think you lose quality
[04:54] <msoul> Hello, Is it possible to join the Ubuntu community as a translater? I do speak three languages :-)
[04:54] <Thunderpants> sox is the package u need to convert mp3s to ogg
[04:54] <msoul> Finnish/Arabic(Native) and English of course
[04:55] <SGL> Hello
[04:55] <erkintek> I found mp32ogg, I cant recognize quality loss
[04:55] <Louisa> Hi folks, is there anyone here on the PPC who has the RealPlayer plugin working in Firefox?
[04:55] <JohnUK89> Help anyone? I seem to have lost some GLX extensions when I upgraded my kernel to the latest stable, any ideas how to get them back?
[04:55] <SGL> How do I make ubuntu launch a script automatically
[04:55] <Louisa> Or is our only option helix
[04:55] <Dimensions> hi fones do you guys know abt, which are supported in ubuntu for using as GPRS MODEM
[04:56] <Ng> Dimensions: anything you can get a serial port out of should be usable as a gprs modem, so anything with a physical serial cable or bluetooth, afaik
[04:56] <psiklone> hi, does anyone know how to be able to set arbitrary refresh rates, it is only letting me use 85hz, i have tried editting my xorg.conf but it still doesnt do anythign
[04:57] <SGL> How do I make ubuntu launch a script automatically at startup??
[04:57] <TheGateKeeper> SGL there are various ways, cron, put it in rc.local, I think there is also an autostart in kde
[04:57] <Ng> SGL: a system (ie root) script, or as your user? if the latter, does it need to be run at startup or when you log in?
[04:58] <SGL> TheGateKeeper: I use Xubuntu (so no KDE)
[04:58] <Louisa> Ng: out of interested where do you stick it to run it as root?
[04:58] <Ng> Louisa: /etc/rc.local
[04:58] <Louisa> thanks
[04:58] <TheGateKeeper> SGL: it's probable got an equivalent
[04:58] <Dimensions> Ng:  ... but not all mobile fones are supported in linux ... ubuntu ...
[04:58] <SGL> Ng: I don't care. it's about apache, so it will always after I have logged in. It needs root-user privilige tho
[04:58] <orbin> msoul: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RosettaReleaseAnnouncement maybe
[04:59] <Ng> SGL: apache is started as a system service, so it will always be running by the time /etc/rc.local is called, so that would be a sensible place to put it most likely, but it depends on exactly what it is
[04:59] <msoul> orbin: Thanks
[05:00] <SGL> Ng: So I can just add a line in rc.local and everything will work?
[05:00] <SGL> It's just to start apache
[05:00] <xavice> Hey, I was just wondering, how can I download a Flash plugin for Firefox? flashplugin-nonfree doesn't seem to work, so I purged it, and the adobe is going at unbelievably slow speeds (0.3 kb/s, etc)
[05:01] <Ng> SGL: if you installed apache from the ubuntu repositories it will already be started at boot
[05:01] <SGL> I didn't ;)
[05:01] <Ng> SGL: but yes, that would do
[05:01] <SGL> I did it manually
[05:01] <SGL> Ok thanks
[05:01] <Ng> SGL: shame
[05:01] <SGL> I'll try
[05:01] <SGL> Ng: No... no shame... I needed it fine-tuned
[05:01] <fuci_> Can someone offer me advice on how to put up my own shell, to where I can connect from other places; OR something that I can control my irssi (that is running on my home computer) from some other computer? Thanks.
[05:01] <Ng> SGL: it's always worth using the repositories if you can, if only because they do all the hard work for you and keep it up to date for you :)
[05:01] <Ng> SGL: rebuilding the packages is also a possibility, so you get the best of both worlds
[05:01] <xavice> Hey, I was just wondering, how can I download a Flash plugin for Firefox? flashplugin-nonfree doesn't seem to work, so I purged it, and the adobe is going at unbelievably slow speeds (0.3 kb/s, etc)
[05:01] <harisund> fuci_: you could use a combination of screen and irssi through SSH
[05:01] <Frostbite> Can somebody help me with dependancy errors in apt-get install redhat-cluster-suite? http://rafb.net/paste/results/OGZPMM52.html
[05:01] <FurryNemesis> Ng, unless the repos have out of date programs
[05:02] <SGL> Ng: Total linux noob here ;) So no way i'm gonna try that
[05:02] <Ng> SGL: if you're a total noob, why are you fine tuning a web server? ;)
[05:02] <fuci_> harisund: any quide on how to do that? I'm pretty new to Linux :)
[05:02] <harisund> fuci_: I am guessing you are familiar with the command line?
[05:02] <Ng> FurryNemesis: that's rarely as much of a problem as people think, I would say
[05:02] <fuci_> harisund: yep
[05:02] <Louisa> Hi folks, is there anyone here on the PPC who has the RealPlayer plugin working in Firefox?
[05:03] <harisund> fuci_: so let's begin with the basics. Do you know what SSH is, and how to use a client to login to a machine running a SSH server?
[05:03] <Louisa> I have the stand alone binary working, but not the plugins
[05:03] <fuci_> harisund: I do.
[05:03] <califfo> !webdav
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webdav - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:03] <fuci_> I've had shell- account but it has expired.
[05:03] <harisund> fuci_: so let's start by installing a SSH server on your main desktop. Execute on the command line 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server'
[05:03] <xavice> Louisa: I think you can use MPlayer, if not first thing I'd do is check their website.
[05:03] <fuci_> Ok
[05:04] <TheGateKeeper> SGL: Total linux noob needs to use apt-get /synaptic or adept ---> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[05:04] <xavice> !flashplugin
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashplugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <SGL> Ng: Because i need a fine-tuned server. Has nothing to do with linux...
[05:04] <Louisa> xavice: i'll give it a go...ta
[05:04] <SGL> TheGateKeeper: I know... But as I said I needed it finetuned. I made a 5 line configure command :P
[05:04] <fuci_> harisund: Done.
[05:05] <harisund> fuci_: ok. Now what kind of a connection do you have on your main desktop?
[05:05] <harisund> fuci_: I mean, internet connection.
[05:05] <fuci_> harisund: 8/1 mb DSL
[05:05] <fuci_> 8down 1up
[05:06] <harisund> fuci_: is it like an always on thing? What kind of an IP do you get? If it is public you can access this machine from anywhere. I am guessing you know what kind of a IP it is and whether or not your ISP allows access to it?
[05:06] <fuci_> harisund: My connection is allways on, IP is public.
[05:06] <Dimensions> Ng:  can u name any fones u really know will work as gprs modem in Linux ubuntu ?
[05:07] <Ng> Dimensions: my SonyEricsson k750i and t610 before that both did it fine
[05:07] <Ng> Dimensions: anything that has bluetooth and presents the standard BT dialup networking service (ie a serial port modem) will work afaik
[05:07] <Dimensions> where did u try it Ng: ? i mean which country
[05:07] <harisund> fuci_: ok good. So now that you have a SSh server running on your computer (whose IP let's say is 12.34.56.78) all you need to do to access this desktop of yours from any other computer is to ssh to 12.34.56.78 using a SSH client (putty on Windows, most Linuxes have SSH clients by default)
[05:07] <Ng> Dimensions: UK
[05:08] <Ng> Dimensions: although I've used the GPRS bits from Europe too
[05:08] <Dimensions> kool ... i want it for same place ...
[05:08] <fuci_> harisund: Our school computers are running Win2000
[05:08] <fuci_> So putty it is.
[05:08] <Dimensions> i needed a cheap mobile fones list which actually can work as gprs modem as we are trying dial on demand with remote pcs
[05:08] <xxpor> hey guys, i cant find a link to download Edgy Eft
[05:09] <harisund> fuci_: on Windows 2000 you can download a small binary .exe file called putty (http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/latest/x86/putty.exe) and SSH to your home computer using that.
[05:09] <fuci_> harisund: is it possible to put any password-protection for my computer? So not anyone can use it?
[05:09] <harisund> fuci_: SSH uses password protection, in the sense that you will need a username and password to log on to it.
[05:09] <harisund> fuci_: that will be the same as your own user name and password.
[05:09] <fuci_> Ah, ok.
[05:10] <xxpor> where can you download edgy eft?
[05:10] <harisund> fuci_: anyway, next thing is something called screen. Think of it as a multiple window manager for the terminal. Let's have a live demonstration of it. What IRC client are you using?
[05:10] <benje> hello
[05:10] <fuci_> harisund: Irssi currently
[05:11] <benje> did someone use  mcp 430 with intergeated firewall ?
[05:11] <harisund> fuci_: ok. I am guessing you are running irssi in a gnome-terminal, xterm or something?
[05:11] <fuci_> Gnome-terminal
[05:11] <benje> how to configure it to send packet ? thank
[05:12] <harisund> fuci_: ok let's do one thing. Quit your irssi. Within your gnome -terminal command prompt then start screen. Once you execute 'screen' you will be shown a licence and then you can hit enter. You will once again reach the command prompt. In that command prompt, restart your irssi and come back. Is that ok?
[05:12] <fuci_> Yep, brb.
[05:12] <Jimmey> How do I mount something ( A USB device ) so that I can write to it?
[05:13] <dr_willis> Jimmey,  whats the filesystem on the device?
[05:13] <Jimmey> fat16
[05:13] <harisund> Jimmey: typically when you plug it in, you should see a icon on your desktop.
[05:13] <Jimmey> harisund, I do, but it's read only
[05:13] <xxpor> Jimmey: try mkdir /mnt/sda1 && mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
[05:13] <Jimmey> When I try to format it, weird things happen.
[05:13] <xxpor> ok
[05:13] <fuci> harisund: Ok, I exited irssi, typed 'screen' accepted (pressed enter) and restarted irssi, did I do it right. :p?
[05:14] <user__> How do I run a program from terminal?
[05:14] <xxpor> is it "locked"
[05:14] <dr_willis> you format befor you mount things.
[05:14] <harisund> fuci: yep you did. Now you are in what is called a screen window.
[05:14] <Jimmey> dr_willis, it mounts itself when I try to format it, and gparted gets an error.
[05:14] <fuci> harisund: Ok, sounds neat.
[05:14] <dr_willis> Jimmey,  right click and use unmount.
[05:14] <xxpor> user__: just type in the program you want to run
[05:14] <Jimmey> dr_willis, there's only "Eject"
[05:14] <lmosher> Anyone here running fglrx 8.28.8?
[05:15] <dr_willis> eject it then. :P or go to the shell and use sudo umount /media/whateverthenameofthedeviceis
[05:15] <harisund> fuci: basically screen allows you to have multiple windows within the terminal. Once you are done working, you can detach screen, and then go to another terminal (say, through SSH from another machine) and just reattach the screen and everything that was running on the screen (all the windows) are shown once again to you
[05:15] <user__> xxpor: I create a console program with FB, and I run it, but it doesn't work. The program is named "construct".
[05:15] <benje> or how to desactiv the firewall ?
[05:15] <fuci> harisund: ok :o So now it's done?
[05:16] <Jimmey> dr_willis, right
[05:16] <fuci> harisund: I can connect to my comp. and use irssi from distance :p?
[05:16] <Jimmey> dr_willis, then I try to format it
[05:16] <harisund> fuci: So let's give a try. All screen commands begin by typing Ctrl+a together and then giving a command.
[05:16] <FreeMason> can anyone help me setup wpa with ipw2200 on dapper? the tutorial on the web forums is outdated and doesn't work
[05:16] <Jimmey> dr_willis, and it mounts itself when I try that
[05:16] <Gun_Smoke> Back agian this morning for the same problem I've had for a couple of days now.  I can not start Gnome Partition Editor, OR Disks Manager.  I tried both of them last night around 11pm EST and let the wheel spin until I got up this morning.  For both, I get pass the password and then NOTHING.. The wheel just spins and spins..
[05:16] <xxpor> user__: if its in the current directory you need to type ./construct
[05:16] <harisund> fuci: first, you have irssi on one window, right?
[05:16] <fuci> Yes
[05:16] <user__> ahhh...thank you.
[05:16] <xxpor> np
[05:16] <harisund> fuci: create another window within your screen by typing Ctrl+a first, and then c.
[05:16] <user__> xxpor: thank you. I forgot.
[05:16] <dr_willis> Jimmey,   how are you 'formating it' and what do you want to format it to?
[05:17] <xxpor> user__: :)
[05:17] <harisund> fuci: oops....
[05:17] <Jimmey> dr_willis, with Gparted, and fat15
[05:17] <Jimmey> *fat16
[05:17] <harisund> oh God!
[05:17] <fuci> harisund: ok, and i figured out I can jump from terminal to terminal with ctrl+a and the number of the window
[05:17] <fuci> :p
[05:17] <MSch> hi, i tried turning of swap space and suddenly my system feels way more responsive and even applications noticeable start faster. is there any downside to deactivating swap?
[05:17] <harisund> fuci: smart. I was worried I locked you out.
[05:17] <fuci> :p
[05:17] <sioux> people ubuntu is a blond bath...   ndiswrapper too crash the system. SUSE diden't!
[05:17] <harisund> fuci: Here are some commands:
[05:17] <dr_willis> you just said its allready fat16? so you basicially want to reformat it to be  blank? what is this anyway? a usb hard drive?
[05:17] <fuci> harisund: ok
[05:17] <Ng> fuci: ctrl-a ?   will show you a bunch of options available to you :)
[05:17] <benje> a link ? :)
[05:17] <apakatt> is it possible to "downgrade" my system? i have installed kde 3.5.4 but its so buggy so i want to downgrade everything so it uses the packages from the official ubuntu-mirrors.
[05:17] <fuci> Ng: ok. Thanks for the hint :)
[05:17] <Jimmey> dr_willis, it's an MP3 player, and mid-format, it mounts itself :|
[05:17] <xxpor> omg 1hr before drake is downloaded
[05:18] <Ng> apakatt: it's really seriously not a good idea
[05:18] <FreeMason> is there a bug with the kernel in dapper and ipw2200 requiring a patch for wpa to work?
[05:18] <harisund> fuci: Ctrl+a w : List out windows. Ctrl+a A: Name the current window as something. Ctrl+a ": Show windows interactiveyl
[05:18] <xxpor> im going to die
[05:18] <bobovski> man, I'm confused. Firefox says it's using mplayerplug-in.so and it's working but I cannot fine that file anywhere
[05:18] <Ng> apakatt: but if you remove your configs and stuff it may well be ok
[05:18] <bobovski> er, fine=find
[05:18] <Jimmey> bobovski, it's probably somewhere in /home/yourusername/.mozilla/
[05:18] <dr_willis> Jimmey,  now theres an interesting statement.. you are saying as its formating - its automounting at about 50% or so done?
[05:19] <OoberMick> bobovski: try /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[05:19] <apakatt> Ng: ok. well, is there any way to do it except removing and installing again package by package?
[05:19] <bobovski> Jimmey: first place I looked, nowhere in there. I did locate and whereis and nothing
[05:19] <Jimmey> dr_willis, yep.
[05:19] <fuci> harisund: This is cool :o I like it
[05:19] <harisund> fuci: cool.... now here's the fun part.
[05:19] <harisund> fuci: So on window 0 you are running IRSSI, right?
[05:19] <bobovski> OoberMick: there it is, thanks!
[05:19] <harisund> fuci: let's assume on Window 1 you are running a kernel compilation, and on Window 3 you are running some code. Ok?
[05:19] <Ng> apakatt: that depends how you did the upgrade
[05:19] <OoberMick> bobovski: np
[05:19] <dr_willis> Jimmey,  check dmesg output. it could be the usb ports are some how resetting. ive seen that befor on some people in here..  personally, id close out gnome and do all the work from the shell/console. that way gnome aint messing with you.
[05:19] <Jimmey> dr_willis, that's exactly what happens
[05:20] <Jimmey> dr_willis, could I work that from another tty?
[05:20] <apakatt> Ng:  i used a mirror from this page http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[05:20] <fuci> harisund: I only really need Irssi to be run from away, and it's apparently running on window1
[05:20] <dr_willis> Jimmey,  thats  a problem ive not seen personally, and not sure how to properly fix.
[05:20] <harisund> dr_willis: think stopping gnome-volume-manager would help?
[05:20] <fuci> harisund: ctrl+a w lists 0 as bash
[05:20] <dr_willis> harisund,  i tend to just make fstab entrys for everything. :P and disable auto-mounting as much as i can. I hate it. lol
[05:21] <harisund> fuci: yeah that's fine. Now to close your screen you would do 'ctrl+a d'. Then to reattach it you would do 'screen -r'
[05:21] <Ng> apakatt: if you put all your apt sources back to regular dapper ones you may well be able to just reinstall some core KDE stuff and have it grab the rest, but you are probably going to have to do a lot of package-by-package stuff I would think
[05:21] <Jimmey> dr_willis, I'm shifting to another tty
[05:21] <Jimmey> What should I do from there?
[05:21] <fuci> harisund: ok
[05:21] <harisund> So now, you are finished with your chatting. Then let's say you go to school. You would use putty to login to yur home achine. Then on the command line you would do 'screen -r'
[05:22] <apakatt> Ng:  ok well I give it a shot. thanks
[05:22] <harisund> fuci: it's calling it bash, because initially a bash shell was opened. Do a "ctrl+a A" and rename it to IRSSI for convenience.
[05:22] <FreeMason> can anyone help?
[05:22] <fuci> harisund: Ok.
[05:22] <waspius> i changed my keyboard layout and managed to enable 4 out of 8 special keys..but the sound control buttond work on mplayer but not on xxms..any help ?
[05:22] <Jimmey> dr_willis, what should I do from the console?
[05:22] <delaney> When using windows i can use nero to burn a VCD from a .MPG file. Does anyone know how or if its even possible to do that in UBUNTU
[05:22] <dr_willis> Jimmey,  well you need to close out GNOME so its not auto mounting stuff. ie: log out of X.    plug in the device. see what device its showing up on. (sudo fdisk -l) or check (dmesg) then just mkfs.vfat (or mkfs.fat /dev/sda1) or whatever device it is.
[05:23] <dr_willis> Jimmey,  but if the usb buss is still resetting - this is not going to fix that problem.
[05:23] <Jimmey> Okay
[05:23] <harisund> fuci: This way, you would always be logged in to irssi. You could tell irssi /leave or something, and irssi will log all messages that have a 'fuci' in them,
[05:23] <fuci> Nice. :)
[05:24] <fuci> Ahh
[05:24] <fuci> What port do I use for SSH? Default?
[05:24] <harisund> fuci 22, yeah default.
[05:24] <fuci> Ok
[05:24] <harisund> You can try it from your Windows machine if you want.
[05:24] <fuci> Yeh
[05:24] <Determinist> delaney, you can use nerolinux... i suppose
[05:25] <orbin> delaney: k3b is probably your best bet
[05:25] <Determinist> delaney, but do try k3b first
[05:25] <delaney> Determinist,  saddly that isnt freeware or opensource is it?
[05:25] <Determinist> delaney, nope, but k3b is
[05:25] <bobovski> anyone have experience getting windows media to work in opera?
[05:25] <Determinist> delaney, sudo apt-get install k3b
[05:25] <delaney> Determinist,  k3b didnt seem to want to.  I kept get "this is not an image file" comments
[05:26] <FreeMason> does anyone use wpa on ubuntu with a 2915abg minipci card?
[05:26] <fuci> harisund: thank you for helping me out!
[05:26] <Jimmey> dr_willis, so I should close Gnome completely?
[05:26] <Determinist> delaney, sadly i'll have to say RTFM. there has to be something about it in the help files for k3b. or try google.
[05:26] <harisund> fuci: Sure. I use screen+irssi+SSH all the time :)
[05:26] <delaney> Determinist,  no worries mate thanks for trying
[05:26] <dr_willis> Jimmey,  thats what i would do. if its running in the background - it will still be automounting stuff
[05:26] <fuci> harisund: :)
[05:26] <Determinist> delaney, np mate
[05:26] <harisund> fuci: as you start using them, you will figure out fun things to do with it.
[05:26] <acuster> hey all,
[05:26] <fuci> Hopefully :)
[05:26] <acuster> anyone here write with docbook?
[05:26] <Jimmey> dr_willis, how'd I kill Gnome?
[05:26] <harisund> fuci: one thing would be to automatically start screen every time you login through SSH .. and so on ...
[05:26] <dr_willis> Jimmey,  or edit the fstab and make a manual entry for that device -0  to disable the automounting
[05:27] <acuster> care to refresh my mind on pdf generation?
[05:27] <dr_willis> Jimmey,  log out of X. or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:27] <fuci> harisund: Do I have to activate the SSH server? Or is it allways on?
[05:27] <harisund> fuci: It is always on, and is enabled after every reboot.
[05:27] <Determinist> fuci, it's always on once the daemon is there
[05:27] <harisund> fuci: It will not stop unless you manually stop it
[05:27] <fuci> Ok, that's the way I want it to be :)
[05:28] <FreeMason> is anyone here able to help?
[05:28] <Louisa> xavice: does mplayer have a plugin for firefox?
[05:29] <Louisa> xavice: i got mplayer as a package but no plugins (I THINK)
[05:29] <jpjacobs> Louisa, apt-get mozilla-mplayer
[05:29] <Frostbite_> Can somebody help me with dependancy errors in apt-get install redhat-cluster-suite? http://rafb.net/paste/results/OGZPMM52.html
[05:30] <dfgas> is there a way to make a directory hidden?
[05:30] <Louisa> jpjacobs cheers!!
[05:30] <jpjacobs> np
[05:30] <linux__alien> i ve got Ubuntu 64 bit CD. I would like to install it in my AMD System. Is there anything that needs to be taken care of since this is the first time i am gonna try ubuntu and a 64 bit OS
[05:30] <Frostbite_> dfgas: prepend it with a .
[05:30] <jpjacobs> dfgas mv dir .dir
[05:30] <dfgas> k thanks
[05:31] <Ubuntu-fr331> re
[05:31] <richee> !mysql
[05:31] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:31] <orbin> FreeMason: had a look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo ?
[05:31] <orbin> don't know if that's relevant
[05:32] <linux__alien> could some one help me please?
[05:32] <Ubuntu-fr331> me too
[05:32] <harisund> Why does ubotu talk about LAMP when only mysql is asked for?
[05:32] <srn> anyone have tv-out working with compiz?
[05:32] <srn> on nvidia card
[05:32] <Seveas> linux__alien, just pop the cd in and follow instructions 
[05:32] <Seveas> !compiz > srn
[05:32] <FreeMason> i'll try that orbin
[05:32] <FreeMason> thanks
[05:32] <erUSUL> !install > linux__alien
[05:33] <Louisa> jpjacobs: do you know what i have to type in the mozilla address bar to see all my plugins?  its something like "plugins:"
[05:33] <linux__alien> Ok Thanks but there arent any problems with Ubuntu with 64 bit right?
[05:33] <tarzeau> about:plugins
[05:33] <Louisa> thanks
[05:33] <FreeMason> orbin, i realise it's the same documents i've already read
[05:33] <orbin> linux__alien: iirc, there are some issues w/ 64 and flash/multimedia/java ...  one of those ... not sure on the specifics.  from what i hear, most people stick w/ the 32bit install since there isn't any real benefit as of yet
[05:33] <Seveas> linux__alien, there's no flash for 64bit and several codecs are missing
[05:33] <FreeMason> orbin, it seems like my wireless card can't associate to the AP
[05:33] <surgy> ok
[05:33] <surgy> anohter question
[05:33] <erUSUL> linux__alien: things like flash, w32codecs or wine afaik will not work
[05:34] <surgy> i need codecs
[05:34] <surgy> for ubuntu 64
[05:34] <srn> Seveas: that really didn't help me...
[05:34] <linux__alien> wont there be any big differences in the performance between a 32 bit and 64 bit
[05:34] <enyc> linux__alien: depends on the application
[05:34] <orbin> FreeMason: have you tried the forum?
[05:35] <pluma> Amazing. I just changed the JVM eclipse uses in its start-up script to Sun's and the memory usage dropped to about 1/10 of what it was with GNU's JVM.
[05:35] <linux__alien> no from the OS perspective the booting .
[05:35] <ompaul> srn, xgl has its own channel #ubuntu-xgl it is beta softwaer but they know lots about it
[05:35] <bobovski> anyone been sucessful in getting opera to play embedded windows media files?
[05:35] <enyc> linux__alien: certain few things are noticable improved... A lot will be little different... a few will be reduced performanec (in 64bit).
[05:35] <pluma> I can finally actually USE Eclipse in real-time!
[05:35] <enyc> linux__alien: there are quiite a few things that wont work in 64bit
[05:35] <relux> enyc: Oh, such as?
[05:35] <linux__alien> what do you people advice. i ve got the 32 bit cd too. Should i install 64 bit or 32 bit ? since this is the first time i am trying Ubunti
[05:36] <linux__alien> Ubuntu
[05:36] <PuppiesOnAcid> Does anyone know a good place to buy shoes online?  Preferably the "Kangaroos" brand?
[05:36] <enyc> relux: erm... not sure which you wanted anwer to
[05:36] <FreeMason> anybody here a ubuntu certified professional?
[05:36] <_gpg_> salut
[05:36] <_gpg_> oops
[05:36] <_gpg_> hey
[05:36] <relux> enyc: To quite a few things not working in 64
[05:36] <Captain_Fleming> Someone here knows a good ftp client?
[05:36] <PuppiesOnAcid> _gpg_: bonjour
[05:36] <enyc> relux: there are programs in i386 asm like zsnes
[05:36] <orbin> PuppiesOnAcid: #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:36] <erUSUL> Captain_Fleming: lftp
[05:37] <_gpg_> PuppiesOnAcid>: :)
[05:37] <Captain_Fleming> thnx
[05:37] <enyc> relux: there are programs that need i386 arch  like  dosemu
[05:37] <enyc> relux: there are programs that dont complile/run properly in 64bit  like openoffice.org2
[05:37] <PuppiesOnAcid> _gpg_: I spent a little time in a French speaking African country this summer...that's about all the french I know :P
[05:37] <enyc> relux: there are non-free programs that do not have 64bit binaries  like  flashplayer-nonfree
[05:37] <relux> enyc: Yeah, there are actually very few things that dont compile on 64bit
[05:37] <relux> enyc: I would say "quite a few" is an overstatement ;)
[05:38] <enyc> relux: o well whatever ;-)
[05:38] <dr_willis> zsnes dont like 64bit - due to its use of assembly code.
[05:38] <dr_willis> :P
[05:38] <_gpg_> PuppiesOnAcid>: rofl
[05:38] <pluma> Question: Is there a way to set up a local POP mail server, which downloads e-mail regularly from other POP servers? I have mailboxes on about four different servers and I'd like to be able to access the mail from everywhere without having to leave them on the respective servers. My Linux box should be on the net 24/7, so having it act as a single-user mailserver would be neat.
[05:38] <dr_willis> and thats a biggie for me.! :P but snes9x works (i think(
[05:38] <linux__alien> So If thats the case i guess you all want me to stay with 32 bit edition right?
[05:38] <enyc> pluma: yes... use  fetchmail
[05:38] <dr_willis> I switched back from 64bit to 32bit
[05:38] <linux__alien> dr_willis, why?
[05:38] <enyc> pluma: you will nood a local SMTP service (mta) but you dont need port-25 in from outside world  necessarially
[05:38] <enyc> pluma: you can use  pop3 daemons that exist already....
[05:38] <relux> linux__alien: You can use 64 bit fine. You will just have to run 32 versions of those apps such as snes or others that dont compile on 64
[05:39] <enyc> pluma: you can use  fetchmali to fetch remonte pop boxes and deliver into local smtp queue
[05:39] <Crusader_Tech> Hello Everyone.  New Ubuntu user here.
[05:39] <kyja> pluma: why dont you have all these multipul accounts forward to one you will check on a regualar basis>?
[05:39] <pluma> enyc: Why would I need a SMTP service? Isn't SMTP mail-out only?
[05:39] <jorgp> if I have a list of packages in a text file, how can I pass them to apt-get
[05:39] <dr_willis> linux__alien,  too many little issues.  and a few big ones.. plus i dident really gain from going to 64bit - other then bragging rights.
[05:39] <harisund> jorgp how was the package list generated?
[05:39] <jorgp> each line is a package name
[05:40] <jorgp> harisund, I generated it
[05:40] <jorgp> harisund, with vi
[05:40] <harisund> jorgp if it just a package name that you want installed, you can simply do "cat file_name | xargs apt-get --yes --force-yes install"
[05:40] <enyc> pluma: you need it ofor the local mail deliveries
[05:40] <linux__alien> relux, i dont mind doing that. I need Gcc, vi, Mp3 Player, Firefox, Movie Player, Gaim, Gtkmm and IRC Chat and of course some plugins which i can use the 32 bit versions
[05:40] <erUSUL> pluma: fetchmail fw mail to the local smtp server
[05:40] <enyc> pluma: into which fetchmail hands its mails
[05:40] <Crusader_Tech> Ubuntu found everything on my machine, except my Nvidia 6200.  I found in the forum two commands to basically download the nvidia package, and enable it, or something like that.  I got it downloaded and installed, but when I run the command to enable it, I get an error.
[05:40] <zparta> anyone know of a good howto to crack wireless networks
[05:40] <jorgp> harisund, thank you
[05:41] <enyc> pluma: eg.g   delivers to   username@my.local.computer   based on fetchamil config
[05:41] <harisund> jorgp ok . Did it work?
[05:41] <pluma> kyja: Not all of the servers support forwarding, plus I want to be able to leave it on the "server" (i.e. my Linux box) so I can read it without having to remove it from the server AND without having the server go all "out of space" on me
[05:41] <Rotlaus> I've mounted a NFS Share to a directory. As user i can not write into this directory and as root i can not 'cd' into this directory. How can i set the rights properly?
[05:41] <enyc> pluma: you wouldnt need  remotely accessible  smtp for that as-such....
[05:41] <jorgp> harisund, will know in a min
[05:41] <relux> Linuturk_code: You will be fine...there are some great tutorials to getting the 32 bit firefox plugins
[05:41] <enyc> pluma: but you have to think about reply addressess and soforth
[05:41] <t-thing> hi. Howto copy url with keyboard from irssi running under screen in a gnome-terminal?
[05:41] <linux__alien> relux, which means that i will have all the plugins and codecs but the 32 bit variant and not the 64 bit one right? So i can install the 32 bit version of those programs and plugins and things should be fine right?
[05:41] <relux> err, linux_alien that is. Check out the ubuntuforums.org
[05:41] <Linuturk_code> relux, ;p
[05:42] <relux> linux__alien: Yep..
[05:42] <pluma> enyc: I can still use the SMTP servers of the other mail servers for that. They don't really care where the mail comes from, they just send it (heck, half of them don't seem to care whether the sender e-mail and username match).
[05:42] <Linuturk_code> is there really a big performance boost when running the 64 bit version of ubuntu instead of 32 bit ?
[05:42] <linux__alien> relux, will i ve any problems with PPPOE connection in Ubuntu?
[05:42] <kyja> pluma: oh I now see your trouble :/
[05:42] <harisund> t-thing: if you are running it under gnome-terminal, just highlight the text or URL and you can paste it into a browser by using middle click
[05:42] <jorgp> harisund, yes thanks..
[05:42] <harisund> ok cool jorgp
[05:43] <enyc> pluma: fine
[05:43] <relux> Linuturk_code: Depends on what you are doing.. you'll notice the biggest performance boost when doing things like encoding/decoding audio/video.
[05:43] <relux> linux__alien: no
[05:43] <enyc> pluma: but you need SMTP accessible to localhost on the box... in order for fetchmail to deliver its mails
[05:43] <enyc> pluma: and you need to run a pop3 server
[05:43] <Ash-Fox> relux, I like how you can tell the future, will my mouse break on me?
[05:43] <relux> Ash-Fox: Most likely
[05:43] <Ash-Fox> All hail relux!
[05:43] <Linuturk_code> relux, what are we talking? 50% increase? what about load time and such?
[05:43] <t-thing> harisund: I don't want to use mouse. Like I said, with keyboard. Like a command "copy latest url to clipboard" or something like that would be nice
[05:44] <enyc> pluma: sumlp way is to use ubuntu's postfix  and install courier-pop3d  and use UNIX login usernames/passwords ...
[05:44] <enyc> pluma: err... Simple  way   even
[05:44] <relux> Linuturk_code: It depends on what you're doing...30% or so? I don't do much stuff like that
[05:44] <harisund> t-thing: no idea. Sorry :(
[05:44] <t-thing> harisund: np
[05:44] <Linuturk_code> relux, I'm just trying to figure out if it's worth all the extra work getting firefox plugins and such working
[05:45] <linux__alien> I am starting my install of Ubuntu (64 Bit edition) Hope everything goes fine and i hope to be here in Ubuntu
[05:45] <pluma> kyja: Trouble? The issue is currently this: I have a GMail account, an account on the local university's student mail server, a private account and an account on my father's website. I can't be arsed to check them all when I'm on different computers. I also can't just leave them on their servers because some of them are strict on mailbox space (the university only gives me a 20MB home directory, for example).
[05:45] <richee> linux__alien: Which u luck
[05:45] <richee> wish u luck
[05:45] <Linuturk_code> relux, but like you said, it depends on what you are doing . . . average desktop stuff won't benefit from what you say :)
[05:45] <linux__alien> richee, Thanks !!
[05:45] <richee> linux__alien: np
[05:46] <pluma> enyc: So what packages then? courier-pop3d and postfix?
[05:46] <relux> Linuturk_code: Yeah, I can't say. I have not run the 32 version on my my 64 machine to know the difference. I am just telling you from what i've read
[05:46] <Linuturk_code> pluma, so pull them down with Thunderbird or Evolution
[05:46] <enyc> pluma: id try them...  im a fraim im busy and cant tell you a lot more... sorry
[05:46] <enyc> pluma: fetchmail too
[05:46] <orbin> Crusader_Tech: what commands, and what errors?  (use a pastebin if more than two lines)
[05:47] <pluma> enyc: No problem at all. Happy about any advice I can get.
[05:47] <Ubuntu-fr331> bye at next time
[05:47] <bobjones_> hi, cansome one give me a hand setting up a ftp server of the ubuntu cd, so i can do an ftp install locally, i have the server running, but the installer compilans that it cant find the files
[05:47] <pluma> Linuturk_code: But that would require me to run TB or Evo in the background and also would put them into the TB or Evo directory of my home dir, wouldn't it? Also, how am I supposed to share that inbox as mailserver?
[05:48] <Linuturk_code> ah, nvm, that's way over my head. I thought you were looking for a mail program
[05:48] <Linuturk_code> pluma, ^^
[05:49] <Phlexonance> Ubuntu wont boot on my new pc. I have downloaded the amd64bit version and updatet my bios but it just wont boot. (amd athlon 64 X2 3.8, asus M2N32-SLI DEL with latest bios)
[05:49] <Seveas> !mouse
[05:49] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[05:50] <pluma> enyc: courier-pop = courier-pop3d?
[05:53] <richee> Is there any front end tool for mysql in ubuntu ?
[05:53] <Linuturk_code> richee, there is phpmysqladmin
[05:54] <philth> phpmyadmin*
[05:54] <skarface> phpmyadmin
[05:54] <Linuturk_code> richee, I also remember seeing a gui in the Add/Remove . . . menu
[05:54] <bobjones_> hi, cansome one give me a hand setting up a ftp server of the ubuntu cd, so i can do an ftp install locally, i have the server running, but the installer compilans that it cant find the files
[05:54] <Linuturk_code> richee, I haven't used that one, but I have used the phpmyadmin from the repos, and it works great
[05:54] <richee> not phpmyadmin i too use it
[05:54] <richee> anything else gtk based?
[05:55] <atoponce> richee: there is the mysql query browser
[05:55] <Linuturk_code> richee, take a look in the Add/Remove menu
[05:55] <Linuturk_code> there is one in there somewhere, but I haven't used it before
[05:55] <richee> let me check
[05:55] <atoponce> it can connect to local and remote servers
[05:56] <Phlexonance> Ubuntu wont boot on my new pc. I have downloaded the amd64bit version and updatet my bios but it just wont boot. (amd athlon 64 X2 3.8, asus M2N32-SLI DEL with latest bios)
[05:57] <harisund> DBO: are you around?
[05:57] <FunnyLookinHat> Phlexonance, Have you tried the regular 32 bit version?
[05:57] <lukus001> how do i mount NTFS drives?
[05:57] <bigs>         #Xgl-ubuntu    where is everyone in there?
[05:57] <FunnyLookinHat> Phlexonance, also, are you sure that you are selecting the CD-ROM drive as your boot device?
[05:57] <FunnyLookinHat> bigs, usually afk
[05:58] <Phlexonance> FunnyLookinHat yes, it lets me select a language and stuff and then it freezes at the loading screen, you know the one with the loading bar
[05:58] <bobovski> does anyone happen to know where I can get the mplayer plugin for opera?
[05:58] <FunnyLookinHat> Phlexonance, oh ...  hmm...       Have you tried the regular 32 bit CD?
[05:59] <bigs> can someone help me getting compiz to to work
[05:59] <Phlexonance> FunnyLookinHat yes, hmm but that was before I updatet my bios. but on the other hand i have a 64 bit cpu :/
[05:59] <bigs> its apparently instaled
[05:59] <richee> cant find the mysql query browser
[05:59] <bigs> apt-get install compiz
[05:59] <bigs> <----ubuntu
[05:59] <atoponce> richee: i thinx it is in universe. if not, you can get it from the mysql site
[05:59] <FunnyLookinHat> Phlexonance, 64 bit linux is not worth it at this point.  You will just have issues getting a lot of multimedia packages working at no help to you
[06:00] <FunnyLookinHat> Phlexonance, so give the 32 bit a try and see if it works?
[06:00] <richee> atoponce: can u tell me the exact package name
[06:00] <bigs> ????
[06:00] <atoponce> yeah. hold on...
[06:00] <Phlexonance> FunnyLookingHat oh, I thought the i386 kernel wont work on a 64 bit cpu, well Ill try again, maybe the bios update helped
[06:00] <sp3tt> Where can I get pdftosrc for ubuntu?
[06:00] <FunnyLookinHat> Phlexonance, the 386 kernel works GREAT on amd 64 chips...  that's what my desktop is running   : )
[06:01] <atoponce> richee: mysql-query-browser and there is alo mysql-admin
[06:01] <richee> atoponce: I have mysql-admin
[06:02] <FunnyLookinHat> sp3tt, what package is that for?
[06:02] <bobovski> what is gecko-sdk?
[06:02] <sp3tt> FunnyLookinHat: well, it used to be a part of tetex-bin.
[06:02] <nox-Hand> Hey
[06:02] <sp3tt> But it seems it is no longer available.
[06:02] <nox-Hand> I want an apt-get remove command's output lessed to a .txt file. How might I do this?
[06:02] <bobjones_> hi, cansome one give me a hand setting up a ftp server of the ubuntu cd, so i can do an ftp install locally, i have the server running, but the installer compilans that it cant find the release file
[06:02] <FunnyLookinHat> sp3tt, have you added the universe and multiverse repositories to your sources.list file?
[06:02] <bigs> anyone wanna help me with getting compiz up and running?  I havent done anything except apt-get install compiz
[06:02] <sp3tt> FunnyLookinHat: hmm.
[06:03] <phichipsi> hi all. i want to change the size of approx.. 40 jpg-images in one folder but don't want to run a image-manipulation-programm like gimp as it takes to much time. is there a way to autmatically resize all pics in one dir to one size?
[06:03] <eoghan> Yo. Where do I report a problem in apt-get dist-upgrade'ing to edgy from dapper?
[06:03] <sp3tt> Yes.
[06:03] <ketsugi> that sounds like a really bad idea
[06:03] <gnomefreak> eoghan: update-manager
[06:03] <sp3tt> deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[06:03] <eoghan> phichipsi: Take a look at imagemagick, specifically a program called 'convert' in there
[06:03] <ketsugi> oh
[06:03] <ketsugi> TO edgy
[06:03] <ketsugi> try #ubuntu+1
[06:03] <phichipsi> eoghan, thanks i will
[06:03] <bigs> ?
[06:04] <bigs> anyone....pm me
[06:04] <nox-Hand> I need my nvidia-kernel-common, and all nvidia (( the whole binary driver )) reinstalled after I made a new kernel - how?
[06:04] <bigs> compiz
[06:04] <bigs> new subject
[06:04] <bigs> compiz
[06:04] <Ng> !bugs > eoghan
[06:05] <nox-Hand> !nvidia
[06:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:05] <nox-Hand> Bah, no X...
[06:05] <richee> How do I log into mysql
[06:05] <omeow> a
[06:05] <sp3tt> richee: mysql -h host -p
[06:05] <bigs> k.....
[06:05] <bigs> this channel sux
[06:05] <bigs> im out
[06:06] <bobovski> what does "ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/libxpcom.so /usr/lib " do?
[06:06] <nox-Hand> any ideas?
[06:06] <richee> sp3tt: Enter password:
[06:06] <richee> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'ashish'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[06:06] <FunnyLookinHat> nox-Hand, what exactly is your problem?  No X running?
[06:06] <nox-Hand> FunnyLookinHat: exactly -I got a new kernel, so no X
[06:06] <nox-Hand> I need the binary driver installed again, FunnyLookinHat
[06:07] <FunnyLookinHat> nox-Hand, err...  that makes no sense if you did the update through the package manager
[06:07] <FunnyLookinHat> nox-Hand, how did you get the new kernel?
[06:07] <atoponce> using the query browser? you need to have the account setup prior
[06:07] <atoponce> use mysql-admin to setup the account
[06:07] <Bloody_Angel> im new in this, but I think that sudo command do not work, when i type sudo <command> he asks for pass but i cant type anything
[06:07] <nox-Hand> FunnyLookinHat: got one from kernel.org, make oldconfig, make && make_modules install, make install, nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:07] <nox-Hand> The manual way
[06:07] <FunnyLookinHat> Bloody_Angel, it won't show you what you are typing, so just type and hit enter
[06:08] <FunnyLookinHat> nox-Hand, .........
[06:08] <nox-Hand> FunnyLookinHat: :)?
[06:08] <Bloody_Angel> thnx FunnyLookinHat
[06:08] <richee> atoponce: U can only login I guess not create an user
[06:08] <FunnyLookinHat> nox-Hand, that's not good.   In ubuntu, you should get any and all updates through the package manager (Synaptic).  Installing custom compiled kernels sort of puts you out on your own limb because the MOTU's have not tested and verified them to work with the rest of ubuntu
[06:09] <atoponce> using mysql-admin you can
[06:09] <FunnyLookinHat> nox-Hand, which, apparently, it obviously doesn't seem to want to work with your X setup.
[06:09] <FunnyLookinHat> nox-Hand, at a console, if you type "startx" does X start up?
[06:09] <nox-Hand> FunnyLookinHat: it says in the basic guides that with new kernels, nvidia binary driver needs to be compiled again..
[06:09] <nox-Hand> FunnyLookinHat: no, it does not start
[06:09] <FunnyLookinHat> >_<
[06:10] <FunnyLookinHat> nox-Hand, ok, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:10] <FunnyLookinHat> nox-Hand, sorry, put a sudo before that
[06:10] <richee> hehehe, logged in
[06:10] <nox-Hand> FunnyLookinHat: I know that much ;) Cheers will try
[06:10] <atoponce> cool
[06:10] <erUSUL> nox-Hand: i use 'sudo update-grub' instead of nano /boot/grub/menu.lst ;)
[06:11] <FunnyLookinHat> nox-Hand, ok, I'm afriad you may just have to start doing some overhauling of your packages, removing that kernel you installed, and hopefully you won't have to fresh install
[06:11] <FunnyLookinHat> nox-Hand, (though at this point, a fresh install may be the easiest way)
[06:11] <nox-Hand> FunnyLookinHat: erm...........
[06:11] <nox-Hand> FunnyLookinHat: I can just boot up my old kernel... FunnyLookinHat
[06:11] <TokenBad> friend updated from breezy to dapper and rebooted..now it fails to load the x server
[06:12] <Klaidas> I want to redirect traffic on my computer on port 80 to port 81. Like, when someone opens http://my.ip.add.ress they get redirected to http://my.ip.add.ress:81 . Should I use iptables? If so, wthat would be the syntax? Or maybe I should just edit apache's configuration?
[06:12] <FunnyLookinHat> nox-Hand, right.... but didn't you say you messed with your driver and xorg?
[06:13] <FunnyLookinHat> nox-Hand, err... sorry I see that you said it was telling you to.  Yea, boot up the old kernel from grub and then go with that    : )
[06:13] <richee> hey folks I don't think mysql-admin has a query browser to run sql statements
[06:14] <nox-Hand> FunnyLookinHat: I would rather fix my GFX :) I will keep trying :)
[06:14] <mememe> there is a new version of ubuntu?
[06:14] <FunnyLookinHat> nox-Hand, heh ok
[06:14] <FunnyLookinHat> mememe, latest version that is released is dapper drake, 6.06
[06:14] <acuster> does any package provide fop these days?
[06:14] <mememe> but i found in some mirror sites 6.06.1
[06:14] <nox-Hand> FunnyLookinHat: Got it :)
[06:14] <mememe> and didnt find any updates:\
[06:14] <nox-Hand> FunnyLookinHat: its really no biggie :)
[06:15] <mememe> weird,isn't it?
[06:15] <Zero_Signal> hey there
[06:15] <mememe> hey
[06:15] <mememe> :D
[06:15] <Linuturk_eats> mememe, that is a service release
[06:15] <cfedde> I'm having trouble installing postgresql-8.1 on 6.06 amd64. error message is: Error: Could not parse locale out of pg_controldata output. does anyone have any hints for me?
[06:15] <FunnyLookinHat> mememe, 6.06.1 simply refers to a security update or something of that sort...  i'm not that familiar with the naming but they are just simple updates that you have received over the past month or two
[06:15] <Zero_Signal> can you give me a help please?
[06:15] <TokenBad> any info on this? friend updated from breezy to dapper and rebooted..now it fails to load the x server
[06:16] <mememe> oh
[06:16] <Ng> 6.06.1 is dapper with all of the security/bugfix updates as of a given date
[06:16] <Ng> if you're running dapper and keep it up to date, you have it already
[06:16] <FunnyLookinHat> mememe, it also means that they image they are now sending out to people includes security updates to a certain point iirc
[06:16] <Zero_Signal> I've installed 6.06 and i can't install correctly the graphic drivers
[06:17] <mememe> thanks:)
[06:17] <mememe> Zero_signal
[06:17] <mememe> what graphic card?
[06:17] <Zero_Signal> ATI mobility radeon 9600
[06:17] <mememe> sorry,cant help with that one:\
[06:17] <mememe> but i'll check it for you
[06:18] <surgy> am i going to have to change to ubuntu32 in order to watch avi and divx movies?
[06:18] <TokenBad> no one else had this problem?
[06:18] <Zero_Signal> when i run the command "fglrxinfo" it comes back with this:
[06:18] <Zero_Signal> fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:19] <mememe> Zero_signal
[06:19] <mememe> maybe i have a nice manual for that but i'll have to translate it to english:\
[06:19] <mememe> ok
[06:20] <mememe> you tried fglrx?
[06:20] <mememe> Zero_Signal ?
[06:20] <Zero_Signal> yapz
[06:20] <surgy> codecs anyone?
[06:20] <Zero_Signal> nothin'
[06:20] <thesilentkiller> can anyone tell me the irc channel for Evolution email client?
[06:20] <TokenBad> where is the xorg file located?
[06:20] <Zero_Signal> surgy: easyubuntu :)
[06:21] <lassegs> TokenBad: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:21] <TokenBad> hmm....that file is blank for me
[06:21] <mememe> Zero_Signal you use fglrx?
[06:21] <Zero_Signal> the xorg.conf?
[06:21] <surgy> zero: pmed u
[06:21] <thesilentkiller> duh..got it...#evolution at irc.gimp.org
[06:21] <TokenBad> Zero_Signal, yes...
[06:21] <mememe> surgy
[06:21] <mememe> what codecs?
[06:21] <surgy> ?
[06:22] <lassegs> TokenBad dpkg --reconfigure xorg ?
[06:22] <mememe> maybe i can help you:
[06:22] <Zero_Signal> xorg: /usr/lib/xorg.conf
[06:22] <mememe> :)
[06:22] <surgy> i want to whatch a few movies
[06:22] <mememe> hmm
[06:22] <surgy> they are divx and avi
[06:22] <mememe> first of all
[06:22] <surgy> im running ubuntu64
[06:22] <lassegs> !mp3 > surgy
[06:22] <FunnyLookinHat> !restrictedformats
[06:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:22] <mememe> you tried to run them on VLC?
[06:22] <FunnyLookinHat> >_<
[06:22] <TokenBad> Zero_Signal, what you mean?
[06:23] <TokenBad> lassegs, get --reconfigure is invalid command
[06:23] <Wanderer> Anyone have a good link to help me use the volume buttons on my compaq laptop to actually control the volume?
[06:23] <mememe> surgy try to run the movies with VLC
[06:23] <lassegs> hehe
[06:23] <lassegs> TokenBad: -reconfigure
[06:23] <surgy> vlc?
[06:23] <FunnyLookinHat> TokenBad, probably meant sudo dpkg-reconfigure package-name
[06:23] <mememe> yeah
[06:23] <mememe> vlc
[06:23] <TokenBad> lassegs, tried that to...
[06:23] <lassegs> sorry
[06:24] <lassegs> FunnyLookinHat is right
[06:24] <mememe> surgy sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:24] <lassegs> but whats the package-name?
[06:24] <lassegs> xorg? or X11?
[06:24] <TokenBad> jeez...says xorg isn't installed
[06:24] <FunnyLookinHat> lassegs, xserver-xorg
[06:24] <FunnyLookinHat> TokenBad, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:25] <surgy> error: couldnt find packages vlc
[06:25] <mememe> ?!
[06:25] <FunnyLookinHat> surgy, you need to enable universe and multiverse repositories
[06:25] <erUSUL> lassegs: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[06:25] <mememe> oh
[06:25] <FunnyLookinHat> !universe
[06:25] <TokenBad> FunnyLookinHat, says broken or not fully installed
[06:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:25] <mememe> right
[06:25] <surgy> mememe pm me plz?
[06:25] <mememe> no..:|
[06:25] <FunnyLookinHat> TokenBad, ouch.
[06:25] <Gassed> How do I configure apache-ssl service?
[06:26] <mememe> if you ask your questaions in that channel everyone can help you
[06:26] <joaquim> estou perdido!
[06:26] <FunnyLookinHat> TokenBad, you are on a fresh ubuntu installation?   (Sorry, I don't know exactly what your problem is, i sort of jumped in through the middle)
[06:26] <surgy> ok
[06:26] <surgy> how do i enable universal and mulitverse repositories?
[06:26] <TokenBad> FunnyLookinHat, no...I updated from breezy to dapper...and rebooted...and it gave failed to load x server
[06:26] <teethdood> good morning! first time here
[06:26] <FunnyLookinHat> welcome teethdood !
[06:27] <mememe> surgy
[06:27] <mememe> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:27] <FunnyLookinHat> TokenBad, oh dang.   updates can get a bit hairy.   Ok, we need to do a few things
[06:27] <TokenBad> ok
[06:27] <Gassed> How do I configure apache-ssl service?
[06:27] <teethdood> FunnyLookinHat, hope it isn't a "red" hat :) I just came away from RH9
[06:27] <surgy> mememe: that sudo was for me?
[06:27] <Frankenstein> im having problems with my linksyss wireless g/b pci card... lspci returns: 0000:01:0b.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless and the networking prompt shows it, i can activate it, set the bssid to my Access Point, click ok, etc... but after i go back it says its deactivated... what can i do?
[06:27] <mememe> yeah
[06:27] <Zero_Signal> well... i reconfigured the Xorg and reinstalled the MesaGL libs... gotta reboot... brb
[06:27] <Zero_Signal> exit
[06:28] <FunnyLookinHat> TokenBad, sudo apt-get install -f iirc
[06:28] <FunnyLookinHat> wait
[06:28] <FunnyLookinHat> lol
[06:28] <FunnyLookinHat> TokenBad, don't type the irrc
[06:28] <FunnyLookinHat> TokenBad, do this in a console: sudo apt-get install -f
[06:28] <FunnyLookinHat> TokenBad, then we need to do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:28] <curuxz> Hey guys
[06:28] <FunnyLookinHat> hey curuxz    : )
[06:29] <curuxz> quick question if anyone is about :)
[06:29] <Gassed> How do I configure the apache service?
[06:29] <curuxz> im trying to get my main user account to be basicaly root
[06:29] <curuxz> but not root
[06:29] <mememe> surgy,now you should remove to # from all the places that have a weird internet adress..
[06:29] <Frankenstein> Gassed, #apache
[06:29] <sorush20> can I let people know about money saving tips?
[06:29] <curuxz> i want the root account and me to be equals
[06:29] <mememe> have to go
[06:29] <mememe> C'ya
[06:29] <kjm> curuxz  - why do you want to do that?  Very insecure, better to use sudo
[06:29] <Frankenstein> !ops
[06:29] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[06:30] <Seveas> Frankenstein, ?
[06:30] <teethdood> I have a video problem that's stomped me for a while now :(
[06:30] <gnomefreak> Frankenstein: ?
[06:30] <surgy> mememe: i did that and writeout
[06:30] <surgy> mememe: now what?
[06:30] <gnomefreak> sorush20: please do it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:30] <sorush20> Frankenstein: your not allowed to use that optioin..
[06:30] <curuxz> kjm im an experienced user, running a very secure Lan, I am aware of the risks but because im safe behind my fire walll i want my 3 development stations to work together in harmony, without passwords or permission errors, however i dont want to move everything over to the root account
[06:31] <curuxz> i have made my self a memeber of the root user group, but its not doing it, root directories are still not writeable to me
[06:31] <ziottt> hi
[06:31] <Ropechoborra> How do i mount an ipod ??
[06:31] <FunnyLookinHat> teethdood, what is your issue (video problem)?
[06:31] <nalioth> !tell curuxz about root
[06:31] <billybennett> when installing a program it asks me su -c "make install" what is the ubuntu version of that?
[06:31] <ziottt> anybody has tried to install the plugin for files .ape on k3b?
[06:31] <Seveas> curuxz, even experienced users should not be silly about security...
[06:31] <surgy> mememe: do i just start dling packets?
[06:31] <Seveas> billybennett, sudo make install
[06:31] <curuxz> are you THE Seveas?
[06:32] <FunnyLookinHat> billybennett, have you checked for the program in the Ubuntu repos??
[06:32] <Seveas> curuxz, depends on how many seveases you know
[06:32] <FunnyLookinHat> billybennett, rather than compile it....
[06:32] <kjm> curuxz - I am a very experienced user as well.....experienced enough to not use root unless required.  But, you could create a "root" group that has the permissions you wish, and add users to it.
[06:32] <curuxz> the guy i would like to thank for the FreeNX debs that i use on all my pc's?
[06:32] <billybennett> FunnyLookinHat, yes it used to be in the repos but its gone now... it was outdated anyways
[06:32] <fdoving> kjm: there is already a root group.
[06:32] <Seveas> that would be me, but you need to thank slh for them
[06:32] <FunnyLookinHat> billybennett, ooh, ok.   Would you mind posting a bug to update the program so the MOTU team can put it on the to-do list?
[06:32] <surgy> error: couldnt find package
[06:32] <curuxz> kjm tried that, for some reason it aint enough, i need a way of making the system think i am root
[06:32] <kjm> fdoving , curuxz - well there you go.
[06:32] <teethdood> Totem displays downgraded video (8-bit) while Mplayer plays videos fine with the X11 (XImage/Shm) video driver. How do I change the totem video driver?
[06:33] <billybennett> FunnyLookinHat, I'd love to .... when I type sudo make install it says command not found?
[06:33] <kjm> curuxz - I don't know then.  I've never been silly enough to think of trying something like that.
[06:33] <harisund> Hello! Does anybody have any experience with NAT (IP Masquerading), DHCP server and DNS on Linux? basically I want to use my LInux as a router :
[06:33] <Seveas> !compiling > billybennett
[06:33] <joumetal> How could I check speed of my ram by software?
[06:33] <FunnyLookinHat> billybennett, yea...   I think you're lookin for sudo "make install" maybe?
[06:34] <Seveas> harisund, install dhcp3-server and get that working on the local net, then come back for nat ;)
[06:34] <surgy> ok well this is tunring into horse shit
[06:34] <erUSUL> Ropechoborra: you can't use gtkpod or other program to access it iirc
[06:34] <kjm> curuxz - install windows.  Login as administrator and enjoy the extra "security" you get from running your OS like that
[06:34] <curuxz> kjm, i have a locked office, secure lan and only use my computer for development I know its odd to want to run effectively as root all the time but there are reasons, plus the fact i cant just stay loged in as root since i need multiple accounts to be doing this :(
[06:34] <Ropechoborra> erUSUL apt-get gtkpod ?
[06:34] <billybennett> I must be an idiot, I just read that page and tried sudo "make install" and no luck.. I've already done ./configure
[06:34] <jpjacobs> harisund, there is a howto at the gentoo site that also works for ubuntu (except, replace emerge by apt-get install)
[06:34] <harisund> Seveas I see, so dhcp3-server installs that. Can I configure it to be a DHCP server on only eth1 and not eth0 (since eth0 is public, to the modem, and eth1 is to the switch, my local LAN)
[06:34] <Seveas> harisund, yes
[06:35] <zparta> anyone know of a good howto to crack wireless networks ?
[06:35] <harisund> jpjacobs: oh ok ... how do I search for it? (I don't even know what keywords to type in for google.). There is supposed to be a project called linux-router project, but that website seems to be down.
[06:35] <kjm> curuxz - again, I don't know.  I've always used sudo -i to get local root access when required.  But, never running permantly like that.
[06:35] <curuxz> since as Seveas will tell you logging onto the same freenx account multiple times can cause all kinds of problems....hence i want to run in root all the time, but need multiple root accounts
[06:35] <FunnyLookinHat> zparta, err...  airsnort is the program you are looking for
[06:35] <FunnyLookinHat> zparta, and it's in the repos iirc
[06:35] <harisund> Thanks Seveas I will have a look .... so installing that package will only enable my linux box to act as a dhcp server, but it won't actually share the internet, right? Just like a gateway for the computers on the lan ..?
[06:36] <fdoving> harisund: i suggest installing and using the 'ipmasq' package, it does everything you want in one.
[06:36] <Maen> Hello.
[06:36] <harisund> oh neat ... thanks fdoving ..
[06:36] <zparta> FunnyLookinHat: does it support atheros chipset it says nothing on the homepage
[06:36] <jordanau> what is the open source equivalent of asp.net
[06:36] <ompaul> !broadcom > frankenstein
[06:36] <zparta> and when i try it doesnt seam to work either :P
[06:36] <FunnyLookinHat> zparta, yes, it does...  use the orinoco driver (you will see the option for it)...
[06:36] <FunnyLookinHat> zparta, at leeast, i'm failry sure
[06:36] <zparta> ok
[06:36] <jpjacobs> harisund: www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howtoo.xml
[06:36] <lmosher> Fun new errors abound!! (EE) fglrx(0): PreInitDAL failed
[06:36] <lmosher> (EE) fglrx(0): R200PreInit failed (this is on an ATI 9800 trying to load newest drivers
[06:36] <curuxz> Seveas: have you noticed how Amsn wont work under a FreeNX client, do you know of any work around for this? :(
[06:36] <rub> i am buying one celeron (m) is that good to install and to work linux ?
[06:36] <Maen> could someone explain me how to install VPN , please?
[06:37] <billybennett> FunnyLookinHat, none of those commands work... Ive tried them again and again before I came here.. I know its something stupid I'm forgetting
[06:37] <harisund> jpjacobs: I guess you added an extra o in the end to rhyme with gentoo ? ;)
[06:37] <fdoving> harisund: you basically set the dhcp-adress-pool and the dns-forwarders and you're set.
[06:37] <FunnyLookinHat> rub, celeron chips are pretty poor perfmance chips overall, but yes it will work fine with linux.
[06:37] <Seveas> curuxz, newver noticed
[06:37] <harisund> fdoving: thanks a ton ... jpjacobs thanks a ton too ... you too Seveas .. I will get back after I have read the documentation and the comments in the default configuration files :)
[06:37] <nicodarious> hello all
[06:37] <FunnyLookinHat> billybennett, hmm...  it's been a while since I had to run a make install as root...  so I forget as well...     : (
[06:37] <lmosher> Has anyone ever seen that error before?
[06:38] <curuxz> kk, just wondered. It may be a bug with Java or something since i think Amsn is a java applet, and i dont like gaim
[06:38] <teethdood> FunnyLookinHat, all of a sudden videos in all apps play at 8-bit instead of full color. The only thing that works is MPlayer using X11 (Ximage/Shm)
[06:38] <teethdood> I tried reinstalling all the codecs to no avail
[06:38] <nicodarious> i'm now to Ubuntu and the Devian framework kindof and i was wondering, Does the latest Ubunt support GLx for the nvidia cards vorrectly?
[06:38] <FunnyLookinHat> teethdood, totem is using the wrong video driver thingy...
[06:38] <Seveas> curuxz, amsn is TCL, not java ;)
[06:38] <nicodarious> correctly*
[06:38] <FunnyLookinHat> teethdood, Why not just use mplayer or gxine all the time?
[06:38] <cica> hi all :-)
[06:38] <lmosher> Anyone here using ATI 8.28.8?
[06:39] <cica> !thunderbird
[06:39] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[06:39] <curuxz> Seveas, that just makes the problem all the more odd.....there are no error messages it just does the loading thing, then vanashes :S
[06:39] <g333k> Hi I'm using ubuntu 6.06, I want to install fuse and fuse-libs but I dont have that pkgs in aptitude why?
[06:39] <teethdood> FunnyLookinHat, gxine does the same thing. MPlayer doesn't do DVD menus :(
[06:39] <billybennett> Anyone know how to find out a version number from apt-get ?
[06:39] <Seveas> !find fuse
[06:39] <ubotu> Found: libfuse-dev, libfuse2, linux-image-2.6.15-23-386, linux-image-2.6.15-23-686, linux-image-2.6.15-23-k7 (and 22 others)
[06:39] <Seveas> meh
[06:39] <FunnyLookinHat> teethdood, gxine is at 8 bit?!
[06:39] <Seveas> !info fuse
[06:39] <ubotu> Package fuse does not exist in dapper
[06:39] <lamego> g333k, do you plant to install ntfs3g ?
[06:39] <Maen> could someone explain me how to install VPN, please?
[06:39] <cica> !find thunderbird
[06:39] <ubotu> Found: mozilla-thunderbird-locale-ca, mozilla-thunderbird-locale-de, mozilla-thunderbird-locale-fr, mozilla-thunderbird-locale-it, mozilla-thunderbird-locale-nl (and 46 others)
[06:39] <teethdood> FunnyLookinHat, yes, videos look really weird, ghost-like
[06:39] <cica> !install thhunderbird
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install thhunderbird - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <Seveas> !fuse-utils
[06:39] <ubotu> fuse-utils: Filesystem in USErspace (utilities). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 47 kB, installed size 164 kB
[06:40] <cica> !install thunderbird
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install thunderbird - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <zuhause01xx> hello, i have my ubuntu on /dev/hda5 but would like to make my /media/hda6 to my home directory, is that possible?
[06:40] <FunnyLookinHat> teethdood, whoah...  hmm...    sorry that one is above me  : (
[06:40] <nicodarious> Does Ubuntu support installation of LGX drivers for NVIDIA cards correctly or do you have to work around everything to get to it?
[06:40] <erUSUL> zuhause01xx: yes
[06:40] <quiet> where is the ubuntu gnome icon located?
[06:40] <Seveas> g333k, fuse-utils is what you need -- the fuse driver is in the kernel
[06:40] <lamego> zuhause01xx, if it is already formated, sure, edit your /etc/fstab
[06:40] <nicodarious> err GLX
[06:40] <doublehp> how do I get USB stick automounted ?
[06:40] <ralf_h> Is there a mplayerplugin for firefox and Ubuntu? If not , what do you use to view MS format video/streams?
[06:40] <lamego> but first mount it on a temporary dir and move your data there
[06:40] <FunnyLookinHat> nicodarious, legacy nvidia drivers?  yes.  nvidia-glx-legacy is the package i think
[06:40] <FunnyLookinHat> !nvidia
[06:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:40] <quiet> ralf_h, there is.
[06:40] <erUSUL> ralf_h: it is
[06:41] <Seveas> doublehp, it should automount when you p[lug it in
[06:41] <ziottt> for the ape plugin on k3b Ive got this thing:
[06:41] <ziottt> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20901
[06:41] <quiet> ralf_h, i believe it is mplayerplug-in
[06:41] <ziottt> whats do I need yet
[06:41] <teethdood> FunnyLookinHat, thanks for your help mate :) well, thanks for answering everyone else's questions as well :)
[06:41] <g333k> Seveas: But I dont have fuse-utils either
[06:41] <nicodarious> FunnyLookinHat yes.  that's what i was looking for.  Ubuntu isn't the Debian Etch )testing) type is it?
[06:41] <doublehp> Seveas: it isnt; /dev/sda1 is created, but wont show in df -h
[06:41] <g333k> lamego: I'm planning to use local devices support with ltsp
[06:41] <ralf_h> quiet, OK I will look for it. I tried mplayerplugin, but no match...
[06:41] <quiet> ralf_h, search for mplayer, you will find it.
[06:41] <doublehp> Seveas: there is not aither any thing about it in system messages
[06:41] <lamego> g333k, ok :)
[06:41] <Seveas> doublehp, does it shouw up in mount or in /media/
[06:42] <Seveas> !universe > g333k
[06:42] <doublehp> Seveas: no
[06:42] <ralf_h> quiet, I did look for mplayer, but the plugin didn't show up. Is it hidden somewhere?
[06:42] <nicodarious> FunnyLookinHat i'm looking for something that's still running gcc 3.5 or whatnot.  on top of that, i just want my GAMES to run on Linux.. and without GLX rendering, the systems are useless.
[06:42] <FunnyLookinHat> nicodarious, actually, ubuntu is pulled from debian etch when we sync up
[06:42] <Seveas> doublehp, does 'pmount /dev/sda1' work?
[06:43] <quiet> ralf_h, do you have universe and multiverse repos enabled?
[06:43] <erUSUL> ralf_h: mozilla-mplayer ??
[06:43] <FunnyLookinHat> nicodarious, oh hmmm...   im not sure.   why are you concerned about the compiler used?
[06:43] <ralf_h> quiet, Have to check. How do I activate them?
[06:43] <erUSUL> !easysource
[06:43] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:43] <quiet> ralf_h, in synaptic
[06:43] <jdahm> hey, when my laptop is turned on my fan is ALWAYS on, drawing a lot of power and a tremendous loss in battery life, under windows the fan only went on after the laptop was on for about 12 hours (the laptop is really well cooled) is there any way to get it to scale the fan power?
[06:44] <ralf_h> quiet, THX!
[06:44] <jdahm> oops, I mean resulting in
[06:44] <diogo> does clamav, spampd and spamassassin work "out of the box" when I install them with aptitude? with postfix already installed...
[06:44] <doublehp> Seveas: as root, yes; it creates /media/sda1 ; I ll try as user ... user cant pmount
[06:45] <Seveas> doublehp, what's the error message?
[06:45] <jdahm> and I have one more question, how do you get wireles printing to work/ I have a printer attached to an airport and I know the IP, but it isnt working with CUPS
[06:45] <doublehp> Seveas: in my langage: permission refused (not allowed)
[06:45] <doublehp> Seveas: in my langage: permission refused (not allowed) for /usr/bin/pmount:
[06:45] <Seveas> doublehp, right...
[06:45] <Seveas> doublehp, are you in the plugdev group?
[06:46] <doublehp> Seveas: I have 3 end users on the box ...
[06:46] <nicodarious> FunntLookinHat cause i've been trying and trying for about a week now to get my nvidia card running on Debian Etch, but either the binary from nvidia wants the gcc3.4 (Etch has gcc4.1 installed, so it's constantly yelling at me during installation) or the kernel modules or whatever they are for the GLX drivers are non-existant...  i'm running low on time, patience, and resources here... i want something to work besides an M$ system....
[06:46] <Seveas> doublehp, only end users in the plugdev group can make things automount
[06:46] <doublehp> Seveas: hal is, not my users
[06:46] <nalioth> !tell rbman about dualboot
[06:46] <doublehp> Seveas: in the end, will you make it automount at plug time ?
[06:47] <Seveas> doublehp, sudo adduser your_username plugdev
[06:47] <FunnyLookinHat> nicodarious, what you want then is to install ubuntu....    we release packages that only work in our repos... and that include nvidia-glx-legacy   : )
[06:47] <Seveas> for all 3 users
[06:47] <Seveas> then it will mount at plug-in-time
[06:47] <doublehp> Seveas: ok, added 3 users; all can pmount
[06:47] <Seveas> doublehp, then it should now work when you plug it in
[06:47] <doublehp> Seveas: problem is that only the one running MANUALLY pmount will be able to use it ...
[06:48] <nicodarious> FunnyLookinHat well it's about time i find something half decent here....  terrible it took me so friggin long though, heh.
[06:48] <Seveas> doublehp, that is in fact by design
[06:48] <nicodarious> i'm downloading the 700MB ISO now.
[06:48] <PSurge> if i install Ubuntu 5.10 as a server can i use dist-upgrade to upgrade it to 6.06?
[06:48] <FunnyLookinHat> nicodarious, sorry it took so long...     a lot of us are quite busy right now doing bug updating and stuff preparing for edgy eft devel and release    : )
[06:48] <Seveas> if you put the drive in /etc/fstab with different mount options, pmount will call mount for the drive
[06:49] <doublehp> Seveas: unpluged/repluged ... did not automount after 10s
[06:49] <fyrestrtr> PSurge: sure
[06:49] <doublehp> Seveas: no activity in syslogs after 1mn
[06:49] <Seveas> doublehp, is the user who is logged in in the gui in the plugdev group?
[06:49] <diogo> do I have to reconfigure postfix after installing clamav?
[06:49] <ENE|Toxic> Using wlan on a network without any authentication; would it be sufficent to execute "iwconfig wlan0 essid <essid>", and the run dhcp to get connected to that network?
[06:50] <Sucker28> hi
[06:50] <PSurge> thx fyrestrtr
[06:50] <doublehp> Seveas: 2 useres are loged in GUI; *all* users have been put in the group, and can use pmount
[06:50] <Seveas> hmm
[06:50] <nicodarious> FunnLookinHat oh that's fine.  i don't mind waiting as long as i know that there's something going on..  i'm not a dev myself, but i've already talked a few friends into giving up M$ for good and am looking to spread the linux community quite a bit.  i just need to find something to give them that will actually work well and is user friendly.
[06:50] <teethdood> crazy question: how do I reinstall all apps in Drapper? (ie wipe out all configurations, just a refresher of all packages)
[06:51] <Seveas> doublehp, does lshal say that that drive is removable? (pipe lshal through less and search for sda1 to find the drive)
[06:51] <FunnyLookinHat> nicodarious, give ubuntu a try and tell me how you like it  : )    but I'm warning you now, don't add any non-ubuntu repos to your sources.list    it breaks things   : )
[06:52] <cfedde> how do I set the locale for my system?
[06:52] <doublehp> Seveas: storage.removable = true  (bool)
[06:52] <polo3> hola
[06:52] <erUSUL> cfedde: System> Admin>language support
[06:52] <erUSUL> !es > polo3
[06:52] <cfedde> erUSUL: Is there a way to do that in server?
[06:53] <Seveas> doublehp, then I am puzzled nad thinking this is a bug in pmount
[06:53] <erUSUL> cfedde: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf
[06:53] <nicodarious> FunnyLookinHat i'll keep that in mind.  thanks for the warning.    know anything about Cedega being installed on Ubuntu and running well? i know my laptop runs Kubuntu and runs Cedega quite well.  it's just another niche i can throw at people to help get them away from M$.
[06:53] <cfedde> erUSUL: cool! thanks
[06:53] <doublehp> Seveas: shall I restart some services ?
[06:53] <erUSUL> cfedde: no problem
[06:53] <FunnyLookinHat> nicodarious, I ran cedega with my ubuntu install and it was great (apart from the problems that cedega has with certain games, etc.)
[06:54] <FunnyLookinHat> nicodarious, I also had a lot of luck with wine   : )
[06:54] <knapper> Hey, does anyone know an application/plugin that will resume azureus transfers instead of the screensaver (ie when I go away, it resumes, when I come back it pauses)
[06:54] <Seveas> doublehp, last attempt: make sure it's unmounted and not in /etc/fstab then remove and plug back in -- if that still fails: file a bug
[06:55] <rbman> I've got an existing ubuntu system and I have a second drive with windows on it that I'd like to be able to dual boot to,  what are the propper steps?  I've tried some /boot/grub/menu.lst modification to include the drive but it doesn't load.  The drive with ubuntu is configured as /dev/hda1/ (swap), /dev/hda2/ (ext3),..the other (ntfs) drive -IS- seen using the system->administration->disks utility as /dev/hdb1/. Might anybody be willi
[06:55] <rbman> ng to help with the appropriate windows entry for menu.lst? ubotu's linked faqs do NOT seem to address this configuration.
[06:55] <nicodarious> FunnyLookinHat of course.  Cedega is also being worked on.  but it does great with a lot of popular games.  and the OO.o is perfect for the Officers here too.  They love my laptop with it and use it for their presentations a lot.  Since i am not a dev, i would like to think that this is the way i can help out the Linux community.
[06:56] <FunnyLookinHat> nicodarious, Yea, very true.   Well we all appreciate your help in both spreading and assisting people in using ubuntu   : )
[06:56] <nicodarious> helping to 'free people's minds' if you could say that
[06:56] <Seveas> rbman, title "windows"; rootnoverify (hd1,0); chainloader+1 (on 3 lines, witout the ;)
[06:57] <rbman> Seveas, (hd1,0) ?  with the ntfs drive/parition listed as hdb1?
[06:57] <Seveas> rbman, yes, grooub counts from 0
[06:57] <teethdood> how do I revert my month-old dapper install to a fresh new install? (wiping all my configs)
[06:57] <rbman> ahhh...
[06:58] <rbman> doh!
[06:58] <doublehp> Seveas: there is nothing called hal in /etc/udev/*/* ....
[06:58] <nicodarious> FunnyLookinHat, oh and one more thing (it's kind of my thing)  how is E16 on Ubuntu?  i'm sort of stuck on the WM heh.
[06:58] <ENE|Toxic> Using wlan on a network without any authentication; would it be sufficent to execute "iwconfig wlan0 essid <essid>", and the run dhcp to get connected to that network?
[06:59] <harisund> ENE|Toxic: I would also add mode managed, but what you said seems to be sufficient in most cases.
[06:59] <linux__alien> i ve installed Ubuntu
[06:59] <linux__alien> Successfully
[06:59] <FunnyLookinHat> nicodarious, I've never run enlightenment ( I assume that is what you are referring to) but I've heard good things  : )    I'm personally a gnome fan and don't really deal with much else
[06:59] <linux__alien> This is my first experience with Ubuntu
[07:00] <harisund> jpjacobs: that page is awesome. Thanks a ton. Seriously :)
[07:00] <linux__alien> is there mp3 support in ubuntu?
[07:00] <harisund> !restricted formats > linux_alien
[07:00] <erUSUL> !mp3
[07:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:00] <doublehp> Seveas: storage.removable = true for sda only, not for sda1
[07:01] <doublehp> Seveas: sda1 has "volume.policy.should_mount = true" !!!
[07:01] <nicodarious> FunnyLookinHat ah, i understand. and yes, i was refering to Enlightenment.  I was just wondering and making sure that i would be able to use such a thing with Ubuntu. it's my favorite WM.  low on memory, and very responsive.  not to leave out flexible and highly customisable.
[07:01] <Seveas> doublehp, that means you should file a bug ;)
[07:02] <doublehp> Seveas: I need a fix for yesterday ... for my friend (I am using ssh to fix his box 400 miles away)
[07:02] <waspius> anyone know how i can configure xmms sound controls?ie.volume up/down etc
[07:03] <dravas> What can I do in apt-get to enable like Rar and stuff in Archive Manager?
[07:03] <FunnyLookinHat> nicodarious, oohh yea, it's good to go with ubuntu  : )     You might want to try using xubuntu (it's a xfce/e16/wm) based ubuntu installation
[07:03] <erUSUL> dravas: unrar
[07:03] <dravas> ok
[07:03] <lamego> dravas, make sure you have universe/multiverse enabled
[07:04] <nicodarious> FunnyLookinHat is it the same thing as Ubuntu?  just configured differently to the different WMs?
[07:04] <Unkill> 
[07:05] <Unkill>  -  ?%)
[07:05] <FunnyLookinHat> nicodarious, yea, just as ubuntu installs gnome, kubuntu installs kde, and xubuntu installs lightweight interfaces   : )
[07:06] <nicodarious> FunnyLookinHat oh sweeT1  this is good news indeed!  i think i'm falling in love with the distro already!
[07:06] <FunnyLookinHat> nicodarious, I know i did a long time ago.
[07:07] <Sucker28> looking for sex here
[07:07] <longwave> i think you came to the wrong place Sucker28
[07:07] <bjames> Hi all - I'm trying to include a library file in my kdevelop project, but it's failing when it gets to linking
[07:08] <bjames> can anyone give me a hand (the kdevelop channel people didn't reply)
[07:08] <DragoraN> hi, how to get single frame from video stream?
[07:08] <avu> bjames: #kubuntu might be more helpful in your case
[07:08] <bjames> avu: cheers - I'll try them
[07:09] <Linuturk_eats> DragoraN, screenshot?
[07:09] <dust0> hello... where can i ask questions??????
[07:09] <Linuturk_code> !ask
[07:09] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:09] <dust0> okay...
[07:09] <Capwn> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[07:09] <DragoraN> Linuturk_eats: yes
[07:09] <msoul> I checked for the proper tools for a transparency
[07:09] <ezenu> does the GUI Disks tool (or Gparted) have the ability to successfully format a drive as ext3? I can't get it to work
[07:09] <dust0> i just get some problems unloading agp modules from my kernel
[07:10] <msoul> yet I am messing the last steps
[07:10] <dust0> i just get some problems unloading agp modules from my kernel
[07:10] <msoul> Can you guys give me a hint?
[07:11] <Unkill>  hello  
[07:11] <avu> ezenu: I think they both should be able to do it, yes. I am not quite sure how exactly, I can show you how to do it from the commandline, though.
[07:12] <martin2006> #ubuntu-es
[07:12] <dust0> while unloading sis_agp with rmmod -f i just get "ressource temporarly unavailable....
[07:12] <ezenu> avu, i'm trying one more time
[07:12] <prometheus> well, anyone got time to help a noob configuring a WLAN-card?
[07:13] <prometheus> well, anyone got time to help a noob configuring a WLAN-card?
[07:13] <prometheus> well, anyone got time to help a noob configuring a WLAN-card?
[07:13] <Linuturk_code> prometheus, dont' just keep posting your questoin
[07:14] <Linuturk_code> prometheus, have you searched the forums?
[07:14] <dust0> if someone knows why a just installed k7 2.6.15 kernel won't release muy agp modules... tell me
[07:14] <Linuturk_code> prometheus, the wiki?
[07:14] <ezenu> avu, i got it, thanks though
[07:14] <Linuturk_code> prometheus, what type of card is it?
[07:14] <avu> ezenu: cool :)
[07:15] <lolo5> #ubuntu-es
[07:16] <pebkac> i just accidentally dist-upgraded to edgy
[07:16] <pebkac> this ought to be interesting
[07:17] <siriusnova_> how can u accidentally "dist-upgrade to edgy"
[07:17] <siriusnova_> thats unpossible
[07:17] <mnvl> apt-get dist-upgrade edgy
[07:17] <dust0> ok ok.... then no answer to tha question...
[07:17] <pebkac> because i had to go change my sources to install muine, because someone is too fucking lazy to put muine 0.8.5 in backports.
[07:18] <pebkac> and it also decided to install a slew of mono packages, which then called on pretty much ALL of edgy for dependencies.
[07:18] <ompaul> !language
[07:18] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:19] <dust0> #ubuntu-fr
[07:20] <paradox> how comes nobody uses xubuntu :(
[07:20] <Ash-Fox> paradox /join #xubuntu
[07:20] <paradox> i have
[07:20] <paradox> like 40 people on there =\
[07:20] <dust0> just got to ubunut-fr... i'll try and watch my tongue
[07:21] <Ash-Fox> paradox, so?
[07:21] <paradox> will be alot harder to get help when it all goes wrong xD
[07:22] <Ash-Fox> paradox, I don't think larger channel size = more help
[07:22] <lolo5> como configurar el linpopup?
[07:22] <erUSUL> !es
[07:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:22] <Ash-Fox> lolo5, run winpopup under wine.
[07:23] <paradox> anyway i was just gonna ask anyone if they know why i get a load of errors trying to install easy-ubuntu
[07:23] <Russian_man> ,    !
[07:23] <Ash-Fox> Or use 'talk'.
[07:23] <Ash-Fox> !ru
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[07:23] <teicah> !ca
[07:23] <ubotu> Canadian Ubuntu users can be found in #ubuntu-ca
[07:24] <Ash-Fox> !en
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[07:24] <teicah> !play with me
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[07:24] <Ash-Fox> Descrimination against the English!
[07:24] <ompaul> !msgthebot
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[07:24] <ompaul> !gb
[07:24] <Amwyll> Hey there, folks.
[07:24] <ubotu> Join us for a discussion using the Queen's English in #ubuntu-uk
[07:24] <Ash-Fox> !us
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[07:25] <ompaul> !msgthebot > Ash-Fox
[07:25] <Amwyll> Can anyone help me with a bash one-liner? I'm looking for an "if" test to see if var contains a number (e.g. "100") or something else (mixed : "10a0", string : "abc", or whatever).
[07:25] <Amwyll> "if [[ $1 = [0-9] *[0-9]  ] ] " does only half the job...
[07:25] <typhoid> hey gang!
[07:25] <JraNil> how can i request a staff to drop my forgotten nick?
[07:26] <Ash-Fox> JraNil, /nickserv drop <nickname> <password>
[07:26] <typhoid> I'm wondering if there is an easy way to make my desktop selector pop up a preview of the desktop so i can see what's on it beore i go?
[07:26] <mnvl> Amwyll, try #bash
[07:26] <Amwyll> mnvl: on this server?
[07:26] <mnvl> right
[07:27] <Amwyll> mnvl: 10x, will try.
[07:27] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help me with a compiling issue? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1405243 gaim is looking for a libXrender.... but it can't find it...
[07:27] <Ash-Fox> I'm half British and half French, plus I live in Poland. I don't belong to a single channel.
[07:28] <JraNil> Ash-Fox, Thanks, is there any forget password request?
[07:28] <QwertyManiac> lol
[07:28] <bobovski> Hi all. Ubuntu is recognizing my .tex files as executables. How do I change this?
[07:28] <Ash-Fox> JraNil, I don't believe there is. I could be wrong, try asking the network channel #freenode
[07:29] <JraNil> Ash-Fox, Thanks for ur answer : )
[07:29] <Ash-Fox> bobovski chmod -x *.tex
[07:29] <bobovski> thanks Ash-Fox
[07:29] <aaaaaa> Hi
[07:30] <wisp> quick question: does ubuntu use vanilla-soures as standard? and what version is the current stable?
[07:30] <bobovski> Ash-Fox: hurm. Will that change globally or just in the dir I'm in?
[07:30] <QwertyManiac> 6.06 LTS @ wisp
[07:30] <Ash-Fox> bobovski, directory you're in. It will remove the executable flag from all tex files in that directory.
[07:30] <neutrinomass> wisp: No. It uses a patched kernel and dapper (the latest stable Ubuntu release) uses 2.6.15
[07:30] <wisp> neutrinomass: thanks
[07:31] <QwertyManiac> 2.6.15-26
[07:31] <aaaaaa> does anyone here need a website made?
[07:31] <bobovski> Ash-Fox: any way you know to do it globally?
[07:31] <covOPprometheus> anyone knows where to find a list of all supported WLAN-cards?
[07:31] <wisp> neutrinomass: reason i ask is because i use gentoo and i'm having trouble getting my new USB keyboard working.. i googled and found a guy with the same problem.. his got solved after updating ubuntu 4 days ago though...
[07:31] <Ash-Fox> bobovski, do you even have a graphical LaTeX editor installed?
[07:31] <psiklone> hey: whenever I try to boot using grub I get Error 17 Cannot mount selected partition anyone know why?
[07:32] <linuxboy> does anybody know of any study guides for LPI 199 ?
[07:32] <wisp> so now i'm thinking about trying the vanilla-sources
[07:32] <dojo> hello
[07:33] <root__> hola
[07:33] <eyequeue> how do i prevent nautilus from launching at each login?
[07:33] <teethdood> All video players display videos at 8-bit except Mplayer using XImage/Shm. How do I fix this guys?
[07:33] <bobovski> ASh-Fox: yes, Kile
[07:33] <root__> #ubuntu-es
[07:33] <bobovski> ASh-Fox: I think the problem is that someone changed all my home directory permissions
[07:34] <dojo> i tried to install the pakage network manager on draper ubuntu desktop i386 but the follwing eror happend when i opend it
[07:34] <dojo> Erro: Dependecy is not satisfiable : libnm-util0
[07:34] <eyequeue> it has something to do with this "sessions" thing, i suspect
[07:34] <mehulved> dojo try sudo apt-get install -f
[07:34] <Ash-Fox> bobovski, well, you can try, chmod -x+X -R .
[07:35] <Sodki> good day. is there a way to boot the live cd in runlevel 1 mode?
[07:35] <dojo> thx so i just put in apt-get install -f and retry
[07:35] <Ash-Fox> that will remove any executable flag in the current directory and that directory's subdirectories. and will make sure folders keep their executable flag.
[07:35] <bobovski> Ash-Fox: ok thanks. I just want to automatically open tex files in emacs...not choose to run or display or whatever. I think my folder permissions are screwy. Thanks for the help
[07:35] <waspius> has anyone installed warcraft3?i need to use the no cd-crack but i do not know how
[07:35] <mehulved> run that command in the terminal dojo and see if it helps
[07:35] <dojo> thx
[07:36] <aaaaaa> does anyone need a website?
[07:36] <aStRaLgOd> Hello! :) I was just able to setup my video card right (ATi radeon 9600 pro AiW), and I installed Wine and World of Warcraft. Now I am able to play, but at a mere 5-10 FPS. Anyone knows how to increase it a bit...?
[07:36] <dr_willis> waspius,  nrmally the no cd cracks ive seen just replace the main binary.exe in the games dir. (backup the original)
[07:36] <eyequeue> i've killed off nautilus, told it to save the changes to the session, logged out and in, and told it to stop saving changes to the session (since i don't want that) ... but nautuls keeps coming back upon relogin
[07:36] <aaaaaa> I make websites for min. wage
[07:37] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help me with a compiling issue? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1405243 I haven't been able to compile the latest banshee 0.10.11, or gaim 2.0.0b3.1
[07:37] <lamego> pianoboy3333, you are missing some development files
[07:38] <aStRaLgOd> pianoboy3333, sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[07:38] <pianoboy3333> lamego: I did an apt-file on libXrender.la, nothing came up...
[07:38] <dr_willis> heh - faq #3 it seems like - 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[07:38] <waspius> dr_willis: yes i know but i applied one but it did not work...ok i will try it again though..thanx
[07:38] <dr_willis> waspius,  often it depends on the version of the isntalled game.. many no cd cracks are for specific versions.
[07:39] <aStRaLgOd> So noone here running WoW on linux eh? lol
[07:39] <pianoboy3333> aStRaLgOd: ummm... I have that package.... I can run make obviously....
[07:39] <lamego> aStRaLgOd, he has the compiler installed
[07:39] <aStRaLgOd> oh ok
[07:40] <pianoboy3333> lamego: I have libxrender1 and libxrender-dev installed.... and I've reinstalled them...
[07:40] <itsmegb> does anybody know much about using zenity with bash scripting? any help would be appreciated
[07:40] <dr_willis> aStRaLgOd,  theres many wine forums/web pages.. on that lame game. :P i had it going under cedega.. then gave up on the game.
[07:40] <pianoboy3333> aStRaLgOd: you can run it under wine quite easily
[07:40] <lamego> pianoboy3333, ops, i was going to suggest those libs
[07:40] <aStRaLgOd> dr_willis: yeah but I went on linux to NOT pay about crap.... lol
[07:40] <aStRaLgOd> pianoboy3333, oh yeah it runs, but it runs at 5 FPS
[07:41] <ProNoob> does anyone have an solution for seeking in flv files ?
[07:41] <pianoboy3333> aStRaLgOd: my friend can run it fine under wine, did you patch the source code? there's somethign about it in the ubuntu wiki in the building wine one
[07:41] <dr_willis> aStRaLgOd,  sounds to me like you dont have yoru ati drivers set up right.. of course wine/cedega and ati - is poften an issue.
[07:41] <lamego> pianoboy3333, could you give me the source link so i can try it myself ?
[07:41] <aStRaLgOd> pianoboy3333, According to the AppsDB of Wine, no need to compile on the newer version
[07:41] <pianoboy3333> lamego: sure
[07:41] <dr_willis> alwo every *$*@ new patch to WoW seems to break the  wine/compatiabilty with the game.,
[07:41] <aStRaLgOd> pianoboy3333, I mean no need for the patch
[07:42] <pianoboy3333> aStRaLgOd: ok...
[07:42] <waspius> how do i unmount an iso file?
[07:42] <pianoboy3333> lamego: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gaim download gaim 2.0.0 beta 3.1
[07:42] <eyequeue> waspius, man umount
[07:42] <lamego> ah gaim
[07:42] <waspius> eyequeue: thanx
[07:42] <pianoboy3333> waspius: you don't unmount files...
[07:42] <dr_willis> sudo umnount /media/mountpoint
[07:42] <dr_willis> oops.. spelt umount wrong.
[07:43] <sethk> wasauce, pianoboy3333 he might mean umount a file set up for loopback
[07:43] <pianoboy3333> oh, of course I know what that means..... :-s
[07:43] <dr_willis> :)
[07:44] <eyequeue> sof, how do i prevent nautilus from launching at each login?
[07:44] <sethk> wasauce, pianoboy3333, because people take the shortcut and do a loopback mount with mount, rather than losetup followed by mount, it appears you are mounting an iso file, although in fact you are not.
[07:44] <dr_willis> losetup? thats a new one for me to read about. :)
[07:46] <corrideat> Hello!
[07:46] <bigfuzzyjesus> are the forums down?
[07:46] <shawnr_> anyone know if evolution has a mail notification tray plugin?
[07:47] <dojo> i tried sudo apt-get install -f
[07:47] <corrideat> There was a screensaver that show OS' error screens
[07:47] <dojo> didnt work
[07:47] <corrideat> Do you remember what was it called?
[07:47] <dr_willis> corrideat,  the BSOD screen saver
[07:47] <bbrazil> corrideat: bsod??
[07:47] <dr_willis> :)
[07:47] <shawnr_> dojo, what are you trying to install
[07:47] <corrideat> Thank you
[07:48] <rbman> is there a way to reinstall grub to cause it to auto seek bootable drives and edit it's menu.lst to include them?
[07:48] <lamego> rbman, no
[07:48] <dojo> i am trying to insral
[07:48] <mirak> I am looking for a IRC client who doesn't crash
[07:48] <dojo> network-manager-gnome_0.6.2-0ubuntu7_i386.deb
[07:48] <lamego> mirak, x-chat doesn't crash on me
[07:48] <dojo> so i can get connected to the internet on ubuntu
[07:48] <dr_willis> mirak,  i cant recall  any of them crashing. :P
[07:48] <linux__alien> i ve a weird problem with Ubuntu. I am using pppoeconf to connect to the web . It gets connected and i get ppp0 when i do ifconfig too but after some time an other interface gets created ppp1 and then ppp2 . Hence my Internet becomes slow sometimes
[07:48] <linux__alien> how do i solve this
[07:48] <rbman> lamego, nutz
[07:48] <rbman> ;)
[07:48] <dr_willis> some times its amazing how crash free linux can be.
[07:49] <shawnr_> dojo, 'sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome'
[07:49] <pianoboy3333> lamego: got it yet?
[07:49] <lamego> pianoboy3333, yes, and building
[07:49] <mirak> lamego: for me it crashes a lot. xchat -gnome also. for exemple if I close the window it crashes
[07:49] <dojo> i tried that it says
[07:49] <dojo> cannot find pakage when i did it
[07:49] <pianoboy3333> lamego: ok
[07:49] <lamego> mirak, xchat-gnome crashes a lot, i am talking about xchat
[07:49] <dr_willis> xchat-gnome is a pain.. normal xchat never crashes on me..
[07:50] <dr_willis> i hate xchat-gnome - so i cant say how crashy it is. :P
[07:50] <dr_willis> just another reason to hate it i guess.
[07:50] <Linuturk_code> dr_willis, i use the generic one, not the gnome specific one
[07:50] <cassidy_> lamego: bug reports are welcome
[07:50] <shawnr_> dojo, set up your repositories again: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[07:50] <shawnr_> dojo, then try to install again
[07:50] <dojo> kk thx
[07:50] <pianoboy3333> dr_willis: ummm I like xchat-gnome, and have never had a single problem with it
[07:51] <dr_willis> pianoboy3333,  that proves you are a sicko! :)
[07:51] <ProNoob> does anyone have an solution for seeking in flv files ?
[07:51] <shawnr_> pianoboy3333, gnome's xchat blows... regular xchat is so much better
[07:51] <lamego> cassidy_, I do them with the apps which i use often, xchat-gnome is not the cause, sorry
[07:51] <pianoboy3333> shawnr_: I get that a lot ;)
[07:51] <dr_willis> ive been getting annoyed at the trend in the normal xchat to dumb it down also..
[07:51] <dalfz> after installing xgl, i get the following alot Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display "localhost:1.0".  -- what's this?
[07:51] <mirak> lamego: it crashes less, but I came back to home and it was off
[07:52] <eyequeue> dumbing things down is certainly annoying, agreed
[07:52] <lamego> xchat is much more stable
[07:52] <lamego> pianoboy3333, still building...
[07:53] <lamego> my sustem is 3 years old :P
[07:53] <pianoboy3333> lamego: I get my error within the first 3 seconds of running make
[07:53] <avis> dalfz, you can comment you the DRI extension on Nvidia cards.
[07:53] <avis> in your xorg.conf
[07:53] <lamego> pianoboy3333, i didn't did anything special...
[07:53] <pianoboy3333> lamego: so something's screwed in my system...
[07:53] <shawnr_> anyone know if evolution has a mail notification tray plugin?
[07:53] <pianoboy3333> lamego: lemme try just running ./configure with no extra crap
[07:53] <lamego> Paladine, what was the filename it was looking for ?
[07:53] <dalfz> avis, i have ati.
[07:53] <lamego> pianoboy3333, i am using --prefix=/usr
[07:54] <pianoboy3333> lamego: I used --prefix=/usr --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu
[07:54] <avis> dalfz i'm guessing you could still do it though i'm not sure that is the solution.  you can dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from a terminal.
[07:54] <avis> add a sudo in there and you'll be fine
[07:55] <pianoboy3333> lamego: do a locate libXrender.la on your sys
[07:55] <avis> fear more beer !
[07:55] <nemesys> hello, I want to add a remote printer to my Ubuntu system.
[07:55] <avis> sorry.
[07:56] <nemesys> is there a way that I can browse which printers are available on the network?
[07:56] <avis> yes nemesys
[07:56] <avis> places -> network servers> then browse all machines
[07:56] <nemesys> thanks!
[07:56] <lamego> pianoboy3333, no, and the build is over, with success
[07:56] <avis> verlcome
[07:56] <avis> velcome
[07:56] <avis> welcome !
[07:56] <pianoboy3333> lamego: so.....
[07:56] <pianoboy3333> lamego: AHHH!!! this is frustrating...
[07:57] <lamego> so, i have no idead where did that lib came from on your makefile :)
[07:57] <lamego> pianoboy3333, make distclean
[07:57] <lamego> :)
[07:57] <nemesys> avis - it only shows 'windows network'
[07:57] <pianoboy3333> lamego: what does that do?
[07:57] <nemesys> avis, it's not a windows printer, it's a CUPS printer.
[07:57] <avis> ok nemesys
[07:57] <nemesys> avis, can I browse those too?
[07:58] <lamego> pianoboy3333, it cleans all the files generated by the compile and configure processes
[07:58] <pianoboy3333> oh
[07:58] <pianoboy3333> sure, I'll try again
[07:58] <avis> in that case i'm not sure how to browse.  i dont know to tell you the truth.  if there was an easy answer im sure someone would answer you.
[07:58] <avis> i dont mean to steal anyones sunshine
[07:58] <pianoboy3333> lamego: same error again....
[07:58] <pianoboy3333> ahhhhh!!!!
[07:59] <nemesys> avis, I have shared the printer through the CUPS webinterface already. When I want to configure a network server, it asks me for the printer's URI and I don't know that :(
[07:59] <avis> i dont know the syntax for that either.
[07:59] <avis> have you ever been to ubuntuforums.org  ?
[07:59] <nemesys> it's supposed to look like ipp://hostname/.....
[08:00] <lamego> pianoboy3333, grep -r libXrender *
[08:00] <nemesys> and then ..... is the name of the printer I believe
[08:00] <avis> they are very helpful there.  just be concise, polite, discreet.
[08:00] <nemesys> but I don't know how to get the name of that printer.
[08:00] <lamego> i dont have that file mentioned anywhere
[08:00] <avis> yeh, something like that but it looks like no one is helping.
[08:00] <Alicia_18> hello
[08:00] <pianoboy3333> lamego: what do I do with the output of that
[08:00] <pianoboy3333> ?
[08:01] <avis> i gotta go nature calls the best of luck to you
[08:01] <StreetSmart> Anyone have any idea on why my gaim buddie icons have suddenly disapeared?
[08:01] <nemesys> well I'll try again a little later, sometimes it's just a matter of how you formulate the question :P
[08:01] <eyequeue> how do i prevent nautilus from launching at each login?
[08:02] <Alicia_18> hay algun spaol???
[08:02] <ompaul> !es
[08:02] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:02] <ProNoob> does anyone have an solution for seeking in flv files ?
[08:02] <nemesys> avis, tnx for trying :)
[08:03] <eyequeue> ProNoob, what are they?
[08:03] <ProNoob> eyequeue, what you mean ? flv, thats the flash video format
[08:04] <nemesys> so any CUPS experts on here by any chance?
[08:04] <lamego> pianoboy3333, nothing, i have just checked it is not mentioned on the Makefiles
[08:04] <eyequeue> ProNoob, not familiar with it, i guess grep is out
[08:04] <lamego> pianoboy3333, which means it should not be used on the compile process
[08:04] <ProNoob> eyequeue, they are videos, i said seeking, not searching
[08:04] <nemesys> my question must really be somewhat trivial I think, but I have configured a printer on one system locally, it works fine, I shared it through the webinterface, and now I need to know what it's 'name' is
[08:04] <pianoboy3333> lamego: THEN WTF IS GOING ON! this is totally screwed...
[08:05] <rbman> grub dual boot issue I need some help with, any assistance GREATLY appreciated! -> http://www.phpriot.com/3651
[08:05] <lamego> pianoboy3333, do you have xlib-dev installed ?
[08:05] <pianoboy3333> ooh... I don't know
[08:06] <pianoboy3333> lamego: yes, I have libx11-dev
[08:06] <pianoboy3333> lamego: I don't have xlibs-dev!
[08:06] <Linuturk_code> !upgrade
[08:06] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[08:06] <pianoboy3333> lamego: let's see what that does
[08:06] <lamego> pianoboy3333, well i do, not sure if you need it for gaim
[08:07] <g333k> Hi, why do I receive this error when I try to edit the hosts.allow file? "sudo: unable to lookup gonzalo-ltsp via gethostbyname()"
[08:07] <pianoboy3333> nope..... didn't work....
[08:07] <jksM> trying to install ubuntu on the Sun T2000... can't get past the partitioning menu... anyone got some hints for me? (I assume there's a catch to it somehow?)
[08:07] <lamego> pianoboy3333, did you rerun configure ?
[08:07] <covOPprometheus> join #ubuntu
[08:07] <pianoboy3333> lamego: no, I'll do that
[08:07] <Linuturk_code> !upgrade > covOPprometheus
[08:08] <eyequeue> pianoboy3333, try a sudo apt-get build-dep gaim, in case
[08:08] <DamianFinol> Hello, anyone here uses gnomebaker? I'm trying to burn some mp3's as audio, but I get a plugin missing.
[08:08] <Linuturk_code> !ndiswrapper > Linuturk_code
[08:08] <pianoboy3333> eyequeue: I'm not sure that would help....
[08:08] <eyequeue> !mp3 > DamianFinol
[08:08] <dravas> How to install Xmms2
[08:08] <Linuturk_code> !ndiswrapper > covOPprometheus
[08:08] <eyequeue> pianoboy3333, i was thinking it would pull in that xlibs.dev if gaim really needed it
[08:09] <dravas> hahaha Netsplit
[08:10] <g333k> Can somebody tell me why I'm not able to edit the /etc/hosts.allow file?
[08:10] <Linuturk_code> g333k, did you use sudo ?
[08:10] <eyequeue> g333k, you probably omitted sudo
[08:10] <g333k> gonzalo@gonzalo-ltsp:/etc$ sudo vim hosts.allow
[08:10] <g333k> sudo: unable to lookup gonzalo-ltsp via gethostbyname()
[08:10] <g333k> eyequeue: See?
[08:11] <g333k> Linuturk_code, eyequeue: See? I didnt forget sudo
[08:11] <pianoboy3333> eyequeue: lamego: no, didn't work....
[08:11] <Ych> whats the command for run "ctrl + r" on win
[08:11] <Ych> ?
[08:12] <lamego> pianoboy3333, :\
[08:12] <pianoboy3333> Ych: no, superkey/windows key + r
[08:12] <eyequeue> pianoboy3333, sorry it didn't,   it was a "won't do any harm" suggestion, just in case.  oh well
[08:12] <pianoboy3333> it's ok
[08:12] <Ych> hmmm
[08:12] <eyequeue> how do i prevent nautilus from launching at each login?
[08:12] <Ych> my modifiers seem to be broken
[08:13] <pianoboy3333> lamego: eyequeue: ok, I have to run, if you come up with anyother ideas, post them at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1405260
[08:13] <lamego> ok
[08:13] <eyequeue> pianoboy3333, will do
[08:13] <g333k> I just realized that I cant edit any /etc file, why?
[08:14] <crocd> g333k: are you uding sudo
[08:14] <lamego> g333k, because you need to be admin for that, use sudo
[08:14] <Bung> can someone tell me how to clear my bash log or whatever you call it, i accidently typed my root password into a terminal
[08:14] <g333k> lamego: crocd: I did see
[08:14] <lamego> Bung, rm ~/.bash_history
[08:14] <BlackBrain> were i can find the new version of fwbuilder for ubuntu?
[08:14] <Wanderer> hmm, if I use kopete and someone I'm talking to has a webcam, will it auto-display or anything?
[08:14] <g333k> gonzalo@gonzalo-ltsp:/etc$ sudo vim dhcpd.conf
[08:14] <g333k> sudo: unable to lookup gonzalo-ltsp via gethostbyname()
[08:14] <Bung> lamego: thanks
[08:14] <sethk> Bung, or just edit the file and get rid of the bad line
[08:14] <kenny> hello all :)
[08:14] <eyequeue> Bung, rm ~/.bash_history
[08:15] <lamego> g333k, did you edited /etc/hosts ?
[08:15] <g333k> lamego: yep
[08:15] <rbman> anybody able to help?
[08:15] <nemesys> hmm this seems kind of convoluted, but I created a printer class, put the one printer I have in there and then use http://host:631/classes/bla as my network printer
[08:15] <lamego> g333k, so you did it wrong :)
[08:15] <kenny> anyone tried sabayon?
[08:15] <g333k> lamego: Now what can I do?
[08:15] <eyequeue> Bung, and "unset HISTFILE"
[08:16] <crocd> kenny: i installed it on my laptop
[08:16] <crocd> havent played a lot with it though
[08:16] <lamego> g333k, you can boot from the live cd boot into recovery mode, and fix it
[08:16] <BlackBrain> were can i find the new version of fwbuilder for ubuntu???
[08:16] <g333k> ok
[08:16] <lamego> g333k, you can't delete your hostname from /etc/hosts while you are using it
[08:16] <eyequeue> Bung, the file is typically written at logout, so unset, logout, and relogin (and it will be reset for future use automatically, minus the bad)
[08:16] <kenny> crocd, the miniiso is out today or tomorrow
[08:16] <lamego> BlackBrain, if it isn't on the repositories you will need to build it yourself
[08:17] <sethk> lamego, sure you can.  you won't like the results, but you _can_ delete it.  :)
[08:17] <Bung> eyequeue: thanks
[08:17] <eyequeue> Bung, np
[08:17] <crocd> i installed rr4 or something
[08:17] <lamego> sethk, :P
[08:17] <BlackBrain> lamego there is a version on the repositories but is not the lates one
[08:17] <lamego> s/can/shouldn't :P
[08:17] <kenny> crocd, yeah thats the previous version
[08:17] <kenny> crocd, also good :)
[08:17] <lamego> BlackBrain, so you can't install it from there, you will need to compile it, if you know how to do it
[08:19] <nemesys> Hrmm printing remains a problem still it would seem
[08:19] <BlackBrain> lamego, thanks man I need the lates version so im going to try to compile that one
[08:19] <BlackBrain> lamego, thanks for help man
[08:19] <kenny> ist there a guide to compiling?
[08:19] <eyequeue> kenny, which compiler even?
[08:19] <lamego> np :)
[08:19] <kenny> to compile from source?
[08:20] <eyequeue> kenny, WHICH language though?
[08:20] <lamego> BlackBrain, if you can't please let me know, i may try to build it myself and provide you the .deb
[08:20] <eyequeue> kenny, i guess you don't see my point
[08:20] <BlackBrain> ok
[08:21] <Wanderer> anyone know a good webcam that works with ubuntu cleanly?
[08:21] <kenny> is make a compiler?
[08:21] <fyrestrtr> !webcams
[08:21] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[08:21] <fyrestrtr> kenny: no.
[08:22] <kenny> so if you have a tar.gz file you have several options to compile it?
[08:22] <sethk> kenny, no
[08:22] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[08:22] <teethdood> I'm at the end of my googling wits :( need help with video playback
[08:22] <sethk> kenny, there is only one way to compile it
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> kenny: no, generally, there is only one way to compile something.
[08:22] <KillerDemon> kenny,  google  "compiler"
[08:22] <kenny> ok :)
[08:22] <lamego> sethk, not really, it depends on the source, it may have a configure script or not, it may have a makefile or not :)
[08:22] <ks>  i need to make a backup in a background, but that'll definitely have a payload. Can I run it with amount of cpu/ram specified ?
[08:22] <kenny> lots of response anyway
[08:23] <kenny> thx
[08:23] <lamego> ks, no, but you can use the "nice" command to make it lower priority
[08:23] <_polto_> hello
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> ks: you can lower its priority, however, backup will be heavy on your disk, which will cause other things to slow down. Suggest you leave it alone while its backing up.
[08:24] <ks> it's java-based app, so I see it eating loads of cpu
[08:25] <_polto_> i try to do a modified version of livecd. Add some soft etc... The livecd work fine but then i install it to the disc @ 98% the installer remove all my aditional packages and (from my last upgrade) the installer also remove the kernel :(
[08:26] <ks> thanks anyway lamego and fyrestrtr
[08:26] <Wanderer> thatnks fyrestrter
[08:26] <Wanderer> the list of supported is what I need
[08:26] <dojo> hello it worked and theres no eror for network-manager pakage but when i install itdeoasnt do it properly it skips it
[08:27] <dojo> so i think this is maybe because it has to download some pakages
[08:27] <dojo> aand i am not yet connectd
[08:27] <dojo> so the pakaes needed are
[08:27] <dojo> libnl1-pre6
[08:27] <dojo> dhcdbd
[08:27] <dojo> libnm-util0
[08:27] <eyequeue> !enter
[08:27] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:27] <dojo> anyone know where i can get them
[08:27] <dojo> sorrey
[08:28] <_polto_> the kernel is detected incompatible by the script and placed to the kernel-remove file. it's the same kernel i run on the livecd. and i checked it's compatible..
[08:28] <Bung> dojo: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:28] <Bung> iirc
[08:28] <dojo> i think i serched there but ill look again
[08:29] <fyrestrtr> !info libnl1-pre6
[08:29] <ubotu> libnl1-pre6: Library for dealing with netlink sockets. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0~pre5+svn21-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 236 kB
[08:29] <_polto_> 686 last stable for 6.06.1 and i'm running pentium4 type 15
[08:29] <_polto_> somebody have experience building livecd with additional software ?
[08:29] <fyrestrtr> dojo: just install using apt-get / synaptic / aptitude
[08:31] <Walzmyn> I've looked all over the website - where can you make a request for new packages?
[08:31] <grasshopper> Can someone tell me: If i create a new user, should i be able to enter that directory? i thought not
[08:32] <Walzmyn> only as root or that user
[08:32] <grasshopper> ok
[08:32] <Walzmyn> if you are able, you might still be loged in as root
[08:32] <grasshopper> hmmm....i'm not sure that i'm root but i simply click on the directory and it lets me in
[08:33] <grasshopper> Walzmyn: agues, i must be - obviously
[08:33] <grasshopper> if what you say is true
[08:33] <Walzmyn> far as i know
[08:33] <Walzmyn> maybe you can surf the /otheruser/home but not modify anything there
[08:33] <grasshopper> Walzmyn: whats strange though is that in the gui application user and groups i can see only 2 directories but htere are 3!
[08:33] <Walzmyn> i've only got one user on my box
[08:34] <fyrestrtr> Walzmyn: check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[08:34] <dojo> I GOT ALL 3 PAKAGES ILL SE IF THIS WORKS
[08:34] <Walzmyn> thanks, <fyrestrtr>
[08:34] <cica> hello all :-)
[08:34] <Spex-Ubuntu> hey everyone
[08:35] <Spex-Ubuntu> could someone help me install a wireless adapter?
[08:35] <RadiantFire> so I have an audio question, I have a headseet that appears to come with a little usb adapter.  When I plug the adapter in I get a message about some new soundcard at the little panel.  Changing the soundcard in audio preferences doesn't do anything though
[08:35] <RadiantFire> whats up?
[08:36] <Spex-Ubuntu> i've got a dlink DWL-122 wireless adapter i'm trying to get work with this laptop but i don't know how to use ndiswrapper right
[08:36] <RadiantFire> well the light starts blinking, thats about it
[08:36] <Linuturk_code> !ndiswrapper > Spex-Ubuntu
[08:37] <Spex-Ubuntu> what?
[08:37] <secretlondon> spex - do you know which chipset?
[08:37] <Spex-Ubuntu> i know the model number
[08:37] <Spex-Ubuntu> on the wiki it says that the DWL-122 is supported
[08:37] <Spex-Ubuntu> i downloaded the driver and have the inf file
[08:38] <yalu_> people, with what software do you burn dvd's? I have a stack of dvd+rw's...
[08:38] <msoul> how can I upgrade fluxbox?
[08:38] <Spex-Ubuntu> but when i do "sudo ndiswrapper -i netprism.inf"
[08:38] <Spex-Ubuntu> it gets all wierd
[08:38] <msoul> Fluxbox version: 0.9.14 to v1.0rc2
[08:39] <lupine_> spex-ubuntu: is it a c1 revision stick?
[08:39] <msoul> cause everytime I do sudo apt-get upgrade fluxbox I get
[08:39] <lupine_> (look at the sticker on the back - h/w rev. b1, c1, etc)
[08:39] <Spex-Ubuntu> how do i find out if it's a cl revision?
[08:39] <msoul> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:39] <lupine_> h/w ver, sorry
[08:39] <lupine_> sticker on the back :)
[08:39] <Spex-Ubuntu> says hardware version a1
[08:40] <msoul> any idea?
[08:40] <lupine_> 1 second...
[08:40] <Spex-Ubuntu> it's a DWL122EU A1
[08:41] <Spex-Ubuntu> cp: cannot stat `netprism': No such file or directory
[08:41] <Spex-Ubuntu> that's what happens when i try to do ndiswrapper
[08:41] <dravas> What is wine in
[08:41] <dravas> Apt get
[08:41] <jujimufu> dravas: wine
[08:42] <dravas> ok
[08:42] <jujimufu> dravas: sudo apt-get install wine
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> yalu_: just pop a blank cd it, and watch what happens :)
[08:42] <Oranges> I have a radeon 7500, and there is no trace of it in xorg.conf
[08:42] <dravas> hahaha
[08:42] <dravas> I typed W in Wine in caps
[08:42] <lupine_> %c4 spex: looks like you don't need ndiswrapper - try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/prism2_usb
[08:42] <dravas> so it said no package
[08:42] <lupine_>  spex: looks like you don't need ndiswrapper - try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/prism2_usb
[08:42] <Linuturk_code> jujimufu, he might want to change to the wine repo's first, to get the most recent version
[08:42] <Linuturk_code> jujimufu, he might want to change to the wine repo's first, to get the most recent version dravas
[08:43] <fyrestrtr> dravas: enable multiverse and universe
[08:43] <yalu_> fyrestrtr: I said dvd, not cd... the cdrecord in ubuntu does not support dvd's so I need another tool
[08:43] <fyrestrtr> yalu_: if you want to make data dvds, just pop in a blank dvd, and use nautilus.
[08:43] <lupine_> linuturk_code: "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main"
[08:43] <dravas> I have the most recent version of wine I just needed to get the right thing for a friend
[08:44] <Linuturk_code> lupine_, i know what it is, i was saying for dravas
[08:44] <yalu_> fyrestrtr: what does nautilus use to burn dvd's?
[08:44] <lupine_> ah, ok :)
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> no clue, it just works.
[08:44] <msoul> Any idea guys on how to upgrade FluxBox?
[08:45] <nox-Hand> Hey
[08:45] <gnomefreak> msoul: for the latest fluxbox go to the website (not sure of the site) it has a .deb on it for latest
[08:45] <nox-Hand> How do I get the nVidia kernel module?
[08:45] <fyrestrtr> !nvidia > nox-Hand
[08:45] <msoul> gnomefreak: yeah it has, thought sudo apt-get upgrade would do the job
[08:46] <dapet> I want to start programming in Java agin, it have bin a long time ago... And i am still a noob to program, how does it work with Ubuntu? do I need an enviorment (i think it is named that).. I have the JRE and the plugin installed what now?
[08:46] <nox-Hand> fyrestrtr: Cheers. What cli browser can I open it in? Links2 cant
[08:46] <fyrestrtr> lynx might
[08:47] <jujimufu> dapet: Java SDK 4
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> dapet: you need the sdk to compile java programs.
[08:47] <afields> Why doesn't ubuntu server come default w/ Sendmail or at least a .deb?
 thx... is it just, sudo apt-get SKD4 ?!
[08:47] <dapet> i mean SDK
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> dapet: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-sdk
[08:47] <lamego> dapet, first you need to read something about java, you dont need to have the basic know-how for java no matter the platform :)
[08:47] <bbrazil> AtheIste: it's in universe
[08:47] <lamego> erm, you don't seem
[08:48] <bbrazil> afields: ^
[08:48] <bobonthenet> is this the right place ot ask questions about ubuntu if I can't get something to work?
[08:48] <YeTr2> so, I would I go about installing adobe flash?
 I know and i did, around a half year back now i want to start again, ;)
[08:48] <otroean> Just installed dapper with ati x700. When xserver stars screens goes black. it recognises the card and i have tried different resolutions.
[08:48] <lamego> dapet, installing the sdk will not help you if you don't even know what is an java sdk, or a java compiler
[08:48] <dirker> Hello. I got an ATI Radeon M7 (7500) in my laptop and I got the radeon driver set up. I uninstalled everything fglrx related. glxgears is running very slow and I glxinfo displays "tungsten graphics" as OpenGL vendor string.
[08:49] <dirker> I suppose it should be somethign like "ATI" :)
 I know what it is, I just forgot he he... I know what it does but not what it is named ;)
[08:49] <lamego> dapet, go to synaptic and look for "java sdk"
[08:49] <fyrestrtr> afields: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer
[08:49] <Spex-Ubuntu> thanks lupine_
[08:49] <Spex-Ubuntu> i'll give it a go
[08:50] <jacobsed> Does anyone know how to get xrandr to work with an i810?
[08:50] <xxpor2> guys, whats the command to swich runlevels again?
[08:50] <fyrestrtr> xxpor2: init
[08:50] <lamego> xxpor, init
[08:50] <xxpor2> o
[08:50] <xxpor2> thanks
[08:50] <nzx> hey guys, i read that on the server version of ubuntu theres an option to setup lamp, can the same package be installed on the desktop distro, or will i need to install the packages manually ?
[08:50] <msoul> so apt-get upgrade FluxBox won't do it I havr to get the deb binary?
[08:50] <fyrestrtr> !lamp > nzx
[08:50] <bobonthenet> can someone here help me for some reason synaptic won't open, I'm not sure what I did to break it.
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> bobonthenet: let me guess, you are using the compiz repositories?
[08:51] <nzx> fyrestrtr, thanks
[08:51] <bobonthenet> fyrestrtr: how do I check on that?
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> bobonthenet: are you using xgl?
[08:51] <bobonthenet> yeah
[08:52] <bobonthenet> er no
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> bobonthenet: then you are :)
[08:52] <bobonthenet> I was
[08:52] <lamego> bobonthenet, check the foruns, you need to create the vte link :P
[08:52] <xxpor2> whats the default password for root
[08:52] <bobonthenet> it didn't work very good so I removed it
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> you need to downgrade some packages, go to the forums, there is a solution there.
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> !root > xxpor2
[08:52] <xxpor2> ty fyrestrtr
[08:52] <jacobsed> Does anyone know how to get xrandr to work with an i810?
[08:52] <bobonthenet> all right I'll check that out thanks
[08:53] <yalu_> fyrestrtr: long live growisofs :-)
[08:53] <jamin> i need some refresh help
[08:54] <jamin> i used to know how to do it
[08:54] <xxpor2> fyrestrtr, its not working
[08:54] <jamin> need help changing directory to desktop
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> !doesn't work
[08:54] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> jamin: cd ~/Desktop
[08:54] <xxpor2> o my bad
[08:55] <xxpor2> thanks again
[08:55] <Linuturk_code> !ndiswrapper > covOPprometheus
[08:55] <jamin> OH YA! thanks
[08:55] <meathead> fyrestrtr: know of a good linux torrent program like utorrent or azureus that's not azureus
[08:55] <paparucino_> is there anybody having problems with alacarte?
[08:55] <jamin> it didnt work
[08:56] <shaantanu> hey ppl ... I  getting an error called no FSINFO sector found not automatically creating it while boot up. This happens when the system is checking all filesystems. Although my system starts normally after that, but still its irritating. I am having all my partitions in FAT32 or NTFS (except the linux part ofcourse). Somebody help me
[08:56] <paparucino_> jamin:are you talking about alacarte?
[08:56] <jamin> no
[08:56] <paparucino_> oppsssssssss :-)
[08:56] <jacobsed> Does anyone know how to get xrandr to work with an i810?
[08:56] <fyrestrtr> meathead: I prefer torrentflux
[08:56] <jamin> cd nvm im good
[08:58] <meathead> thanks
[08:58] <jamin> ok shit
[08:59] <linuxd00d> !language
[08:59] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:59] <jamin> i need to navigate to a file on the desktop
[08:59] <jamin> sorry about language
[08:59] <DShepherd> I get this error when seemingly X is about to start up. "h.v. frequency over range" wat do i need to edit in my xorg.conf file?
[08:59] <ompaul> jamin, /home/username/Desktop
[09:00] <linuxd00d> jamin: s'allrite its just im only 16 i dont need to know more than i already know :P
[09:00] <jamin> it is my fault
[09:00] <ompaul> DShepherd, have you tried >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <<
[09:01] <shaantanu> hey ppl ... I  getting an error called no FSINFO sector found not automatically creating it while boot up. This happens when the system is checking all filesystems. Although my system starts normally after that, but still its irritating. I am having all my partitions in FAT32 or NTFS (except the linux part ofcourse). Somebody help me
[09:01] <kingrayray> hey everybody, does anyone know how i could get beagle to use less cpu when it indexes? maybe re-nice it or something?
[09:01] <DShepherd> ompaul: yeah.. but only puts back the defaults..HorizSync       30-72 and VertRefresh     50-160
[09:01] <jacobsed> Does anyone know how to get xrandr to work with an i810?
[09:01] <ompaul> DShepherd, does it not let you use X at that time?
[09:01] <DShepherd> ompaul: i am on edgy..  but it wont start.
[09:01] <jamin> i need to cd to Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux
[09:02] <ompaul> DShepherd, why are you not asking in #ubuntu+1 that is the edgy channel ?
[09:02] <DShepherd> ompaul: I am.. no one is answering
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> DShepherd: edgy is experimental stuff. Ask about it in #ubuntu+1, and expect things to break down -- often, and to blow up (not so often).
[09:02] <ompaul> !flash > jamin
[09:02] <ompaul> jamin, read the message from ubotu please - it will define how to set up flash on ubuntu correctly
[09:02] <DShepherd> ompaul: so i guess I would just ask a general question and see I can learn something about Xserver and frequency
[09:03] <Kennyout> Anyone know why Ubuntu install cant detect my HD's partitions, yet the fdisk can?
[09:03] <klm-> hey, anyone familiar with wlan on an acer aspire 3623/3620 ? Dapper recognizes the integrated wlan card but can't connect via it
[09:03] <unwakata> What software can I use to program in Java on Ubuntu? I have a bunch of .java files I need to create, test, and debug.
[09:03] <bhrobinson> can anyone tell me how to get DivX video files to play properly on Ubuntu?
[09:03] <ompaul> DShepherd, here, no you need documentation if you want to come to terms with that - it is not an "irc friendly topic"
[09:03] <jrib> !divx > bhrobinson
[09:03] <shaantanu>  bhrobinson: get VLC player
[09:03] <bhrobinson> unwakata, everyone keeps telling me to try Eclips
[09:04] <bhrobinson> shaantanu, I have it, but the audio is not working
[09:04] <shaantanu> unwakta : u cud even want to check out java.sun.com for official java stuff
[09:04] <shaantanu> then u need to cofigure ur sound
[09:04] <unwakata> Don't I need some Java plugin for Eclipse to play nice with Java though? It doesn't have to be official... I just want an IDE.
[09:04] <unwakata> I use to use netbeans or something.
[09:04] <shaantanu> eclipse is good
[09:04] <bhrobinson> it works in everything else though
[09:05] <shaantanu> U cud also go for Netbeans IDE
[09:05] <jacobsed> Does anyone know how to get xrandr to work with an i810?
[09:05] <shaantanu> hmmm ..
[09:05] <FirstStrike> bhrobinson: xine and mplayer are both good too
[09:05] <void^> !java
[09:05] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:05] <jamin> how do i cd to a folder on my desktop
[09:05] <jrib> bhrobinson: if you are having problems with vlc sound, you need to install the appropriate package for the vlc sound plugin and update your vlc preferences
[09:05] <kingrayray> jamin: cd ~/Desktop ?
[09:05] <jrib> jamin: cd ~/Desktop/folder_name
[09:06] <jamin> ok ty
[09:06] <shaantanu> Jrib: hes havin no prob playing lets say avi in vlc
[09:06] <kingrayray> does anyone know how i could get beagle to use less cpu when it indexes? maybe re-nice it or something?
[09:06] <jacobsed> Has anyone gotten xrandr to work at all?
[09:06] <meathead> fyrestrtr: now it's just the task of finding out how to install and run apache2 with php
[09:07] <shaantanu> why cannot I delete files in NTFS even as root ??
[09:07] <jacobsed> you need to install ntfs-3g
[09:07] <ailean> shaantanu, you need write privelages
[09:07] <jacobsed> otherwise you can't write it
[09:07] <shaantanu> jaco :
[09:07] <ailean> shaantanu, and i wouldn't recommend it if you're not an advanced user
[09:07] <void^> and you need to backup your ntfs filesystem before
[09:07] <shaantanu> it says its a write protected partition
[09:07] <triz> why is tat http://70.35.202.230/0day-wu.pl
[09:07] <harisund> shaantanu: you need a driver that can write into ntfs partitions, and you need permissions to write into the mounted directory
[09:07] <shaantanu> i know abt access rights
[09:07] <Andy> Hi. I have a problem with Ubuntu 6 LTS Desktop AMD64. It worked fine during instalation (I could start FireFox and Help). But, now (when it's installed), when I start help, I get yelp aplication error. When I start FireFox it runs minimized for a time and then it crashes. Help!
[09:07] <schuyler_> hey guys how do you stop x frum retarting when you kill it
[09:07] <shaantanu> as root ... I have all the permissions wid me
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> meathead: just install Hive ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Hive )
[09:08] <jacobsed> shaantanu: root cant write to ntfs. you need a special driver for it
[09:08] <jrib> schuyler_: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[09:08] <bhrobinson> xxpor2, use the command /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:08] <jacobsed> shaantanu: it has to be mounted by some ntfs writable driver.
[09:08] <shaantanu> wyhat driver ...
[09:08] <shaantanu> where to find it
[09:08] <jacobsed> shaantanu: i used ntfs-3g
[09:08] <triz> http://70.35.202.230/0day-wu.pl
[09:08] <jrib> schuyler_: or what ever *dm you use :)
[09:08] <xxpor2> bhrobinson, thanks
[09:08] <meathead> fyrestrtr: thanks again then
[09:09] <harisund> shaantanu ntfs-3g is a handy tool that can write into ntfs partitions. Are you using 32bit Ubuntu?
[09:09] <jacobsed> shaantanu: check here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=write+ntfs
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> !ntfs
[09:09] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:09] <shaantanu> harisund : yes
[09:09] <shaantanu> thanx jaco
[09:09] <jacobsed> np
[09:09] <jacobsed> has anyone gotten xrandr to work at all?
[09:10] <Andy> I opened log viewer, says something like this: kernel: [1633.628617]  firefox-bin [8725] ] : segfault at 000....1008c6900 rip 0002aaaab3298 rsp 0007ffff9fdc40 error 4
[09:10] <tk1> I'm trying to get Sauerbraten to run, and it's complaining that it "Couldn't find matching GLX visual" when trying to start OpenGL stuff. I've installed everything I can think of. The proper GLX driver for my video card is running. Any ideas?
[09:10] <jacobsed> i keep getting some "Fixed recursive loop. Reboot still needed." thing and it just wont work.. i dont know how to fix it.
[09:10] <jksM> trying to install Ubuntu on a Sun T2000 - it doesn't recognize the disc controller, even though it says it is supported (i.e. the t2000) - how do I fix this?
[09:11] <Andy> Hi. I have a problem with Ubuntu 6 LTS Desktop AMD64. It worked fine during instalation (I could start FireFox and Help). But, now (when it's installed), when I start help, I get yelp aplication error. When I start FireFox it runs minimized for a time and then it crashes. Help!
[09:11] <Andy> I opened log viewer, says something like this: kernel: [1633.628617]  firefox-bin [8725] ] : segfault at 000....1008c6900 rip 0002aaaab3298 rsp 0007ffff9fdc40 error 4
[09:12] <sethk> Andy, does it matter what you've used firefox to look at?  Or do you literally only start it and minimize it?
[09:12] <jacobsed> Does anyone know how to get xrandr to work with an i810?
[09:12] <meathead> fyrestrtr: mysql> SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('yourpassword'); should I change "root" to my username, meathead, or leave it
[09:12] <shaantanu> jaco: the link wont open
[09:12] <jacobsed> just search for ntfs-g3 in ubuntuforums
[09:12] <shaantanu> k
[09:13] <jacobsed> it will be something thats like read and write in ntfs (easy method)
[09:13] <Andy> I just start FireFox (from the taskbar).
[09:13] <tk1> I take it nobody here either cares about gaming, Sauerbraten, or the user experience. :P
[09:13] <sethk> Andy, unfortunately, the seg fault message in the log doesn't help.  Try starting firefox from a terminal, see if you get any more detail when it dies.
[09:13] <findlay> how does one install fonts in ubuntu?
[09:14] <jrib> !fonts > findlay
[09:14] <meathead> !fonts > meathead
[09:14] <findlay> jrib: thanks
[09:14] <meathead> hmm, I can't get pm's, I'm not regged
[09:14] <jacobsed> Does anyone know how to get xrandr to work with an i810?
[09:15] <meathead> what does Act: 1,3,4,5 mean in irssi
[09:15] <sethk> tk1, not necessarily don't care, but I don't know anything useful about your situation.
[09:15] <jrib> meathead: you should be able to receive them, just not send them (by default)
[09:15] <pm> meathead: you will never get me :P
[09:15] <shaantanu> hey ppl ... I  getting an error called no FSINFO sector found not automatically creating it while boot up. This happens when the system is checking all filesystems. Although my system starts normally after that, but still its irritating. I am having all my partitions in FAT32 or NTFS (except the linux part ofcourse). Somebody help me
[09:15] <jrib> meathead: means there is activity in those windows
[09:15] <jacobsed> Does anyone know how to get xrandr to work with an i810?
[09:16] <bhrobinson> hey guys... video works now... thanks everyone
[09:16] <BlackBrain> lamego, u there?
[09:16] <sethk> shaantanu, try running fsck on each of your partitions.  use shutdown -F to force an fsck on boot of the root partition.
[09:16] <harisund> shaantanu: could you write into your ntfs partitions that you were asking about earlier?
[09:16] <sethk> shaantanu, in windows do the check/repair programs for ntfs and vfat partitions
[09:16] <shaantanu> bhrobinson: what solved ur prob ??
[09:16] <harisund> Anybody know of any open source (and Ubuntu compatible) software to teach typing?
[09:16] <shaantanu> I m just consulting forums for the NTFS thing
[09:17] <auTONYmous> hmmm...I can't seem to get XGL to startup
[09:17] <Sodki> harisund, try "typespeed"
[09:17] <bhrobinson> any recommendation for an emulator to run MS apps  (mainly outlook)
[09:17] <harisund> shaantanu: simplest thing to do: add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ dapper main
[09:17] <harisund> Sodki ok thanks .. will have a look ..
[09:17] <Sodki> bhrobinson, try "wine"
[09:17] <bhrobinson> shaantanu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:17] <shaantanu> harisund: this is for what ??
[09:17] <bhrobinson> sodki, will it run Outlook?
[09:17] <harisund> shaantanu: the ntfs-3g driver that will enable writing into your ntfs drive
[09:17] <lamego> BlackBrain, yes
[09:17] <shaantanu> hmm
[09:17] <Sodki> bhrobinson, it depends... try it
[09:18] <shaantanu> and what package do i have to install from this repository ??
[09:18] <harisund> shaantanu: ntfs-3g
[09:18] <harisund> shaantanu: run apt-get update and apt-get install ntfs-3g
[09:18] <shaantanu> ok ... its safe ... right ??
[09:18] <lupine_> harisund: ktouch for kubuntu
[09:18] <bhrobinson> ok, one more question on video... it looks fine on 2 monitors, but crap on the other two
[09:18] <bhrobinson> any ideas?
[09:18] <meathead> if those are windows, how do I view those window's information?
[09:18] <meathead> I can't figure out the hotkey to switch to them
[09:18] <harisund> As someone earlier mentioned, make sure you have a backup of your NTFS partition. I have been writing for months now, and I haven't yet seen any problem. But I definitely wouldn't vouch for it.
[09:19] <jacobsed> Does anyone know how to get xrandr to work with an i810?
[09:19] <lamego> shaantanu, please be advised that ntfs3g is beta, meaning you can get data corruption
[09:19] <shaantanu> hmm .. iwill better not then
[09:19] <BlackBrain> WARNING: icns.path is not defined: install target not created
[09:19] <harisund> shaantanu: lamego is right. It is beta after all, so it is more of a use at your own risk kind of a thing
[09:19] <bhrobinson> any ideas on the video?
[09:19] <shaantanu> ohk ... thanx for the solution and advice guys
[09:20] <micahcowan> meathead, I'm not sure what you're asking... I assume you're not talking about alt-tab...
[09:20] <meathead> ...
[09:20] <meathead> in irssi
[09:20] <lupine_> aaargh, ubuntuforums is going slow...
[09:20] <meathead> how to view pm's people send you
[09:20] <harisund> meathead you mean in irssi? I think the key combo is escape and the window number
[09:20] <richiefrich> meathead ctrl  n
[09:20] <jacobsed> Does anyone know how to get xrandr to work with an i810?
[09:20] <richiefrich> meathead ctrl  +p
[09:20] <lamego> shaantanu, there is a windows ext3 driver, if you wan to do the away around
[09:20] <jrib> meathead: alt-# of the window with the pm, or what richiefrich said too to just cycle windows
[09:21] <richiefrich> meathead switch.. one goes one way one goes the other
[09:21] <harisund> meathead you could also do /window list and it will list all open irssi windows.
[09:21] <TheAbecedarian> I am doing an install of Xubuntu from within another Linux installation. I want to mount the alternate iso image, chroot into it, and start the install. So, questions: 1) How do I properly mount the iso image? 2) How do I properly mount dev and proc (or anything else that needs to be mounted)? 4) How do I properly chroot into it? 3) How do I start the install from the Xubuntu alternate iso? Where is it and what do I do?
[09:21] <meathead> thanks
[09:21] <richiefrich> or ctrl + arrow
[09:21] <richiefrich> jrib i think that also works ..  ctrl + arrow
[09:21] <meathead> ctrl + arrow works
[09:21] <meathead> err
[09:21] <ltR20> whats the command to remove a directory?
[09:21] <meathead> doesn't work
[09:21] <meathead> rm
[09:21] <meathead> -r
[09:21] <bbrazil> ltR20: rmdir
[09:22] <meathead> for recursive
[09:22] <TokenBad> rm -r
[09:22] <richiefrich> rm -r or rm -R
[09:22] <shaantanu> sethk : how to check repair ... my FAT and NTFS drives in windows
[09:22] <richiefrich> -r -R same
[09:22] <Andy_Alpha> jkljkl
[09:22] <lamego> shaantanu, using chkdsk
[09:22] <shaantanu> and will this make my fsinfo prob go away ??
[09:22] <Ratzilla> does ubuntu work with wep out of the box?
[09:22] <M4STA>  /join e.de
[09:23] <richiefrich> shaantanu fsck.vfat  i think
[09:23] <meathead> fyrestrtr: I did everything what seems to be correctly and I get this: Connecting to Database...Failed: Lost connection to MySQL server during query
[09:23] <shaantanu> lamego : chkdisk is fine ... I mean it has run in the recent opast on my drives
[09:23] <meathead> fyrestrtr: any idea?
[09:24] <AndyCooll> Ratzilla: yes
[09:24] <cica> hi guys... does anyone know where/how to install system sound packages that have been downloaded?
[09:24] <Andy_Alpha> SETHK Hi. I tried starting FireFox from terminal: segmenation fault
[09:24] <shaantanu> richiefrich: what command
[09:24] <richiefrich> shaantanu fsck.vfat
[09:24] <richiefrich> no ?
[09:25] <shaantanu> no
[09:25] <shaantanu> this doesnt work in the terminal
[09:25] <jacobsed> Does anyone know how to get xrandr to work with an i810?
[09:25] <tk1> So... can anyone else help me with my Sauerbraten problem?
[09:25] <lamego> jacobsed, how many times are you planing to repeat the question !?
[09:25] <richiefrich> shaantanu  u dont have that cmd ?
[09:25] <tk1> sethk: You didn't see my earlier information?
[09:25] <shaantanu> nope
[09:25] <jacobsed> im not sure
[09:26] <jrib> !support > jacobsed
[09:26] <tk1> I'm trying to get Sauerbraten to run, and it's complaining that it "Couldn't find matching GLX visual" when trying to start OpenGL stuff. I've installed everything I can think of. The proper GLX driver for my video card is running. Any ideas?
[09:26] <lupine_> by the looks of it, the i810 driver doesn't support xrandr
[09:26] <findlay> jrib: thank you very much for the font guide (-:
[09:26] <richiefrich> shaantanu  dosfstools (2.11): DOS filesystem tools - provides mkdosfs, mkfs.msdos, mkfs.vfat
[09:26] <jrib> findlay: np
[09:26] <bhrobinson> what is a decent chat client? (I am used to Trillian on the PC)
[09:26] <richiefrich> shaantanu install that
[09:26] <shaantanu> k
[09:26] <harold1820> Hi
[09:26] <lamego> bhrobinson, depends on the chat protocol you need to use
[09:26] <jacobsed> brhob: gaim is good
[09:26] <GNAM> is ubuntu christian edition a good server distro?
[09:26] <cica> can someone please help :-| ->  does anyone know where/how to install system sound packages that have been downloaded?
[09:27] <AndyCooll> bhrobinson: Gaim or Kopete
[09:27] <harold1820> hi ktogias
[09:27] <user00265> richiefrich: I am
[09:27] <lamego> GNAM, thats not an official ubuntu distro
[09:27] <bhrobinson> gaim seems rought. I use msn, AOL, and Yahoo
[09:27] <shaantanu> gaim
[09:27] <richiefrich> user00265 there u are
[09:27] <lupine_> GNAM: I suppose it's got the power of god behind it... ;)
[09:27] <ktogias> hi
[09:27] <GNAM> ausausau
[09:27] <bhrobinson> Kopete is only for KDE, right?
[09:27] <Flannel> GNAM: all of the tweaks are visual/GUI tweaks, so no.
[09:27] <harold1820> how are you?
[09:27] <lupine_> aside from that, it's identical to other ubuntus
[09:27] <richiefrich> user00265  u dont help here do u
[09:27] <micahcowan> GNAM, I don't know much about it, but I /believe/ it's intended for desktop. I think it's pretty much the same thing as regular Ubuntu, but with SWORD and a couple other packages (probably, displacing one or two other, relatively insignificant packages)
[09:27] <richiefrich> user00265 u just idle ?
[09:27] <AndyCooll> bhrobinson: Nope. You can use it within a GNOME desktop too
[09:28] <lupine_> ...if you install all the kde libs ;)
[09:28] <bhrobinson> awesome
[09:28] <bhrobinson> let me try it
[09:28] <user00265> richiefrich: correct.
[09:28] <lupine_> then again, I've got all the gtk libs in kubuntu, so who am I to talk? ;)
[09:28] <user00265> richiefrich: I have enough channels with 12
[09:28] <harisund> does anybody know what libraries I need to run a make xconfig on my ubuntu for a new kernel from kernel.org?
[09:28] <richiefrich> user00265 lol
[09:28] <unwakata> I'm installing NetBeans on Ubuntu and it's telling me I have no JDK. Where do I install one from?
[09:29] <lupine_> harisund: it uses the qt libraries, but I've never managed to get it working
[09:29] <lupine_> so I use menuconfig instead
[09:29] <Flannel> !tell unwakata about java
[09:29] <richiefrich> unwakata java
[09:29] <bhrobinson> any idas on the video not working on 2 displays?
[09:29] <lupine_> exactly equivalent functionality
[09:29] <harisund> lupine_ yeah, I use make gconfig ... but I would like to have xconfig working too..
[09:29] <lupine_> it should be called qconfig, really
[09:30] <harisund> lupine_ good to know someone here recompiles their kernel around here :) .. last time I asked about make xconfig, there were practically no replies even with me asking the same question with a frequency of 5 minutes :)
[09:30] <TheAbecedarian> I am doing an install of Xubuntu from within another Linux installation. I want to mount the alternate iso image, chroot into it, and start the install. So, questions: 1) How do I properly mount the iso image? 2) How do I properly mount dev and proc (or anything else that needs to be mounted)? 4) How do I properly chroot into it? 3) How do I start the install from the Xubuntu alternate iso?
[09:30] <shaantanu>  richiefrich: what next ?? I mean the command fsck.vfat is not excepting a path in /media/hda
[09:30] <CokeNCode> hey, what program should i download to allow me to play dvds on my ubuntu computer ?
[09:30] <Andy_Alpha> Hi. I have Ubuntu 6 LTS Desktop AMD64. It worked fine during instalation (LIVE CD) I could start FireFox and Help. But, now (when it's installed), when I start help i get "application yelp has quit unexpectedly". When I start firefox in terminal I get segmentation error. Help!
[09:31] <shaantanu> coke:VLC
[09:31] <lupine_> I'm running vanilla 2.6.17.9 right now. works great
[09:31] <shaantanu> !VLC > CokeNCode
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about VLC - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <shaantanu> !dvd
[09:31] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:32] <Flannel> TheAbecedarian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[09:32] <matrix> slt
[09:32] <harisund> lupine_: the best part is make menuconfig works in my Cygwin installation on my Win box as well :)
[09:32] <Ratzilla> does wep work with ubuntu out of the box?
[09:32] <matrix> joint #ubuntu-fr
[09:32] <Linuturk_code> Ratzilla, if your card works, yes ;p
[09:32] <hadi> hi all
[09:32] <matrix> join #ubuntu-fr
[09:33] <lupine_> ...not that WEP is worth having
[09:33] <Flannel> matrix: /join
[09:33] <hadi> how can I install real player on firefox
[09:33] <Andy_Alpha> Hi. I have Ubuntu 6 LTS Desktop AMD64. It worked fine during instalation (LIVE CD); I could start FireFox and Help. But, now (when it's installed), when I start help i get "application yelp has quit unexpectedly". When I start firefox in terminal I get "segmentation error". Help!
[09:33] <matrix> what is the command on linux for view my ip
[09:33] <matrix> on windows is ipconfig
[09:33] <matrix> and linux ?
[09:34] <lupine_> ifconfig
[09:34] <bhrobinson> ifconfig
[09:34] <Ratzilla> ifconfig
[09:34] <lupine_> or ip
[09:34] <lupine_> ip addr show
[09:34] <Ratzilla> jynx :p
[09:34] <unwakata> Is it normal for the Synaptic Package Manager to stall so long on a failed download forcing a reinstall to get the download window up again...?
[09:34] <lupine_> or ip -6 addr show ;)
[09:34] <matrix> ok
[09:34] <zzsputnik> hello, i changed my /media/hda6 to /home ,  the files i have on home now are unreadable but i can see them with sudo nautilus.. but i cannot run anything within  ????
[09:34] <matrix> thank
[09:34] <sethk> unwakata, I wouldn't call it normal, no
[09:34] <hadi> how can I install real player on firefox
[09:34] <shaantanu> hi everyone : cud u suggest an application to lock folders in ubuntu
[09:34] <cica> !samba
[09:34] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:34] <unwakata> What can be done so it is a bit more intelligent about downloading the packages?
[09:35] <trappist> shaantanu: lock?
[09:35] <sethk> zzsputnik, has to be permissions.  see the chown command
[09:35] <lupine_> zzsputnik: what does the relevant line in /etc/fstab look like?
[09:35] <seatouch> !ntfs
[09:35] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:35] <shaantanu> hadi: apt-get install realplay does the trick I believe
[09:35] <lupine_> (could be that noexec is set)
[09:35] <shaantanu> lock as in protect
[09:35] <cica> can anyone advise whats the best way to remotely share files between a Linux box and a Windoze box?? _Please_
[09:35] <Andy_Alpha> Hi. I have Ubuntu 6 LTS Desktop AMD64. It worked fine during instalation (LIVE CD); I could start FireFox and Help. But, now (when it's installed), when I start help i get "application yelp has quit unexpectedly". When I start firefox in terminal I get "segmentation error". Help!
[09:35] <trappist> shaantanu: protect how, from whom?
[09:35] <seatouch> !fuse
[09:35] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[09:35] <lupine_> as for locking files, just chmod the go-rwx
[09:35] <shaantanu> password lock
[09:35] <Abacate> oi
[09:35] <lupine_> then only the owner of the files can access them
[09:35] <zzsputnik> !paste
[09:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:36] <shaantanu> but it cud be modified if I have single user
[09:36] <hadi> shaantanu: this command does not work
[09:36] <trappist> shaantanu: it's not as simple as that.  you'd have to make an encrypted filesystem and require a poassword to mount it
[09:36] <lupine_> !cryptoloop
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cryptoloop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <shaantanu> hmmm .. u need extra repositoreis then ... check out www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:37] <lupine_> bah
[09:37] <trappist> but you can't make it where you're prompted for a password to enter a directory
[09:37] <cica> can anyone advise whats the best way to remotely share files between a Linux box and a Windoze box?? _Please_Guys_
[09:37] <matrix> tank for hep
[09:37] <hadi> :~$ sudo apt-get realplay
[09:37] <hadi> E: Invalid operation realplay
[09:37] <zzsputnik> lupine    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21317
[09:37] <matrix> it s ok :)
[09:37] <shaantanu> trappist:k
[09:37] <Andy_Alpha> Hi. I have Ubuntu 6 LTS Desktop AMD64. It worked fine during instalation (LIVE CD); I could start FireFox and Help. But, now (when it's installed), when I start help i get "application yelp has quit unexpectedly". When I start firefox in terminal I get "segmentation error". Please help!
[09:37] <seatouch> !grub
[09:37] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:37] <cica> hadi: sudo apt-get install realplay
[09:37] <lupine_> cica: I would use psftp.exe on the windows box, and sshd on the linux box
[09:37] <CokeNCode> GRAAAAAAAAAAAA
[09:37] <hadi> :~$ sudo apt-get realplay
[09:37] <hadi> E: Invalid operation realplay
[09:37] <matrix> bye bye
[09:37] <CokeNCode> this darn thing won't open
[09:37] <seatouch> anyone know how to play real audio files ?
[09:38] <shaantanu> Andy: U might consider reinstalling
[09:38] <lupine_> YMMV
[09:38] <cica> lupine_: thanks
[09:38] <Andy_Alpha> Why
[09:38] <hadi> oh yes but E: Couldn't find package realplay
[09:38] <Andy_Alpha> I just install it?
[09:38] <shaantanu> seatouch:sudo apt-get install realplay
[09:38] <richiefrich> shaantanu did u gat that ?
[09:38] <shaantanu> richie:ya
[09:38] <richiefrich> works >
[09:38] <shaantanu> igot the command but m clueless now
[09:38] <hadi> E: Couldn't find package realplay
[09:38] <shaantanu> hadi : ubuntuguide.org
[09:38] <hadi> how can I add sources
[09:39] <richiefrich> shaantanu  ok whats the  /dev/???
[09:39] <cica> lupine_: how secure is this way?
[09:39] <shaantanu> lemme see
[09:39] <Andy_Alpha> shaantanu Why? I just install it. It wount make any difference.
[09:39] <shaantanu> how much space did u keep for ur linux install ?
[09:39] <shaantanu> do u hav a swap ?
[09:39] <zzsputnik> repositories.....synaptic
[09:39] <richiefrich> dont need a swap
[09:39] <richiefrich> if u have enough mem
[09:40] <cica> !psftp
[09:40] <seatouch> !realplay
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about realplay - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about psftp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <seatouch> !realplayer
[09:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:40] <richiefrich> shaantanu  what dev ?
[09:40] <shaantanu> hmm ..
[09:40] <lupine_> it's over ssh, so about as secure as it gets really
[09:40] <shaantanu> i can see all my hdas and hdbs there
[09:40] <zzsputnik> lupine   can u see anything in my paste?
[09:40] <lupine_> google psftp.exe
[09:40] <zzsputnik> oh sorry
[09:40] <Andy_Alpha> Hi. I have Ubuntu 6 LTS Desktop AMD64. It worked fine during instalation (LIVE CD); I could start FireFox and Help. But, now (when it's installed), when I start help i get "application yelp has quit unexpectedly". When I start firefox in terminal I get "segmentation error". Help!
[09:40] <richiefrich> shaantanu u need to  umount /dev/???  &&  fsck.vfat /dev/???
[09:40] <shaantanu> richie ... can we continue this in PM
[09:41] <richiefrich> yes
[09:41] <TheAbecedarian> Flannel: Thanks, but that is not entirely helpful. The only thing that would work is the wiki page about using debootstrap on Knoppix or other. But, that doesn't work because 1) I don't have make on DSL and 2) I want to install xubuntu from its alternate iso. I asked very specific questions. Thanks for trying to help, though.
[09:41] <lupine_> zzsputnik: where?
[09:41] <richiefrich> shaantanu  yes
[09:41] <lupine_> oop, got it
[09:41] <lupine_> sec
[09:41] <zzsputnik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21317
[09:42] <zzsputnik> :D
[09:42] <harisund> Can I do NAT and connection sharing with Firestarter? (It uses iptables..)
[09:42] <seatouch> ive got grub installed .. but i dont see grub when the pc boots
[09:42] <seatouch> anyonw know why ?
[09:42] <harisund> seatouch perhaps you have installed grub somewhere other than the primary MBR?
[09:42] <lamego> seatouch, if you dont see grub, how did the sysem booted ?
[09:42] <Andy_Alpha> I also looked in a log after starting firefox: kernel: [1633.328617]  firefox-bin [8725] : segfault at 00...somenumbersandletters..0 rip 00002aaa...3298 rsp 0007ffffff98dc40 error 4
[09:42] <seatouch> lamego, it just starts ubuntu without the grub menue comming
[09:43] <seatouch> harisund, well how do i check ? i just left ubuntu installing and left and came back to see itinstalled
[09:43] <Andy_Alpha> any ideas?
[09:43] <seatouch> /ctcp seatouch ping
[09:43] <rkd> harisund: yes, you can
[09:44] <lamego> seatouch, and do you have several entries on your menu.lst ?
[09:44] <seatouch> lamego,  well theres only ubuntu entrys
[09:44] <seatouch> at the end there is a windows entry
[09:44] <lupine_>  zzsputnik: I'm using reiserfs as well... mine looks pretty identical to yours (/dev/hda4 /home reiserfs defaults 0 2)
[09:44] <covOPprometheus> I installed a driver for a WLAN card with ndiswrapper, recognized by ndiswrapper, activated with modprobe, but it isn't listed in the networking
[09:44] <tiger_> What is the best way to put realplayer on Ubuntu?
[09:44] <zzsputnik> lupinee   should i change  in the /dev/hda6  lin at the  0      2    to     0       0
[09:44] <covOPprometheus> can anyone assist?
[09:44] <Andy_Alpha> Hi. I have Ubuntu 6 LTS Desktop AMD64. It worked fine during instalation (LIVE CD); I could start FireFox and Help. But, now (when it's installed), when I start help i get "application yelp has quit unexpectedly". When I start firefox in terminal I get "segmentation error". Help!
[09:45] <Andy_Alpha> I also looked in a log after starting firefox: kernel: [1633.328617]  firefox-bin [8725] : segfault at 00...somenumbersandletters..0 rip 00002aaa...3298 rsp 0007ffffff98dc40 error 4
[09:45] <lamego> SeanTater, increase the grub selection timeout just to be safe
[09:45] <seatouch> lamego,  actually i forgot to mount 1 partition while installing .. any idea how to mount that hard ?
[09:45] <rkd> Andy_Alpha: is it only firefox and yelp?
[09:45] <seatouch> lamego,  ok sure
[09:45] <lupine_> how about permissions? my /home is root:root drwxr-xr-x and then each directory within that is drwx--x--x and user:usergroup
[09:45] <Andy_Alpha> rkd I don't know
[09:45] <lamego> seatouch, sudo fdisk -l to list the partitions
[09:46] <lamego> seatouch, do you want it automounted at each boot ?
[09:46] <seatouch> lamego,  yup
[09:46] <rkd> Andy_Alpha: do most other programs work?
[09:46] <lamego> seatouch, you just need to add it on /etc/fstab
[09:46] <roicominutsoup> Hi, did someone use a gmail account with Evolution ?
[09:46] <Andy_Alpha> RKD seems so. Just started Open Office: it works
[09:46] <seatouch> lamego,  how ?
[09:46] <Andy_Alpha> RKD Yes
[09:46] <lamego> SeanTater, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[09:46] <lamego> ops, seatouch
[09:47] <seatouch> lamego,  ok then ?
[09:47] <seatouch> lamego,  /dev/hdb3           10454       11983    12289725    5  Extended
[09:47] <seatouch>  is the one iw ant to add
[09:47] <Andy_Alpha> RKD I'm in Ubuntu right now. Gaim works... :)
[09:47] <rkd> Andy_Alpha: see if "sudo aptitude reinstall yelp; sudo aptitude reinstall mozilla-firefox" fixes anything
[09:47] <lamego> seatouch, do you have other entries there, right ?
[09:47] <covOPprometheus> I installed a driver for a WLAN card with ndiswrapper, recognized by ndiswrapper, activated with modprobe, but it isn't listed in the networking
[09:47] <lamego> seatouch, is it ntfs, or ext3 ?
[09:48] <LukeDuke> nerver
[09:48] <niklas_e> is there any source that I can add to apt to get a new fresh version of clamav?
[09:48] <seatouch> lamego,  right
[09:48] <covOPprometheus> any idea?
[09:48] <seatouch> lamego,  ntfs
[09:48] <Gibbster> Hello friendly ubuntu gurus! I have a question for you! I have a laptop that I set up as a server. I'm running ssh on said server. It works when I set it up, but after 30 mins or so, it stops working. When I check it out locally, it works again.
[09:48] <Gibbster> Until 30 mins later...
[09:48] <sethk> covOPprometheus, is it listed when you do ifconfig -a ?
[09:48] <Andy_Alpha> RKD
[09:49] <Andy_Alpha> xscript@BlueFlower:~$ sudo aptitude reinstall yelp
[09:49] <Andy_Alpha> Password:
[09:49] <Andy_Alpha> Reading package lists... Done
[09:49] <Andy_Alpha> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:49] <Andy_Alpha> Initializing package states... Done
[09:49] <zzsputnik> lupine  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21318
[09:49] <Andy_Alpha> Building tag database... Done
[09:49] <Andy_Alpha> The following packages will be REINSTALLED:
[09:49] <lamego> seatouch, http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/585 <- sample line
[09:49] <Andy_Alpha>   yelp
[09:49] <Andy_Alpha> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:49] <Andy_Alpha> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[09:49] <lamego> Android, dont paste here !!!!
[09:49] <Andy_Alpha> Writing extended state information... Error!
[09:49] <Andy_Alpha> E: I wasn't able to locate file for the yelp package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.
[09:49] <zzsputnik> lupine   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21318
[09:49] <seatouch> lamego,  ok sure thanks a lot
[09:49] <Andy_Alpha> E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?
[09:49] <Andy_Alpha> sory
[09:49] <lamego> seatouch, then you can type: sudo mount -a
[09:49] <lamego> to mount it
[09:49] <rkd> Gibbster: it's not by any chance going into power saving mode and closing network connections, is it?
[09:49] <lamego> without reboot...
[09:49] <sethk> AndreasBe, it says "are you root"?  which means, run it with sudo
[09:49] <zzsputnik> was that any help?
[09:49] <lupine_> a quick question... what's the easiest way to cross-compile a kernel modul; target is binary compatibility with ubuntu's amd64 dapper kernels; host machine is an i386 (amd64-capable but running a k7 kernel)
[09:50] <seatouch> lamego,  :))
[09:50] <rkd> Andy_Alpha: hmm, that's odd
[09:50] <sethk> lupine_, cross compiling a kernel is _not_ easy
[09:50] <sethk> lupine_, you would, first of all, need to build a cross compiler
[09:50] <Gibbster> rkd: I thought so, but the gnome settings say that only the display shuts down
[09:50] <lupine_> don't want the kernel - just some modules :D
[09:50] <Andy_Alpha> RKD I have dual Opteron system (if that's of any importance)
[09:51] <Quentusrex> I'm trying to setup a mail server. I was following a tutorial and made a mistake. I'm trying to reinstall postfix, but I'm getting a fatal error with the command: apt-get reinstall postfix:
[09:51] <Quentusrex> Running newaliases
[09:51] <Quentusrex>  * Stopping Postfix Mail Transport Agent postfix                                                             [ ok ] 
[09:51] <Quentusrex>  * Starting Postfix Mail Transport Agent postfix                                                                    postfix: fatal: /etc/postfix/postfix-script: No such file or directory
[09:51] <Quentusrex> darn,
[09:51] <Quentusrex> Sorry, didn't mean for it to take up that much....
[09:51] <Quentusrex> I'll use pastebin next time....
[09:51] <Quentusrex> Anybody know what could be wrong?
[09:51] <Anubuntu> heyo, can someone tell me the latest version of Cedega?
[09:51] <Anubuntu> and what I need to run it on ubuntu
[09:51] <duckdown> Hi, is anybody here an oidentd wizard by any chance? :)
[09:52] <rkd> Andy_Alpha: does it work when you try reinstalling firefox instead of yelp?
[09:52] <seatouch> !paste
[09:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:52] <Gibbster> rdk: does the gnome acpi menu tell me the full story?
[09:52] <lupine_> zzsputnik: are your /home and ~/.. directories set up properly with permissions as well? the contents of ~ are irrelevant
[09:52] <sethk> Quentusrex, you have to look in that script and see what file is not found
[09:53] <zzsputnik> how can i show
[09:53] <Andy_Alpha> xscript@BlueFlower:~$ sudo aptitude reinstall mozilla-firefox
[09:53] <Andy_Alpha> Reading package lists... Done
[09:53] <Andy_Alpha> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:53] <Andy_Alpha> Reading extended state information
[09:53] <Andy_Alpha> Initializing package states... Done
[09:53] <Andy_Alpha> Building tag database... Done
[09:53] <Andy_Alpha> mozilla-firefox is not currently installed, so it will not be reinstalled.
[09:53] <Andy_Alpha> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[09:53] <Andy_Alpha> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:53] <lupine_> just "ls -l /home" "ls -l ~/.."
[09:53] <Andy_Alpha> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[09:53] <sethk> Quentusrex, it is presumably complaining about the bang line
[09:53] <Andy_Alpha> RKD Guess not
[09:53] <zzsputnik> !paste
[09:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:53] <rkd> Gibbster: not sure. try waiting thirty minutes then pinging the machine - if it works, ssh problem, if it fails, acpi problem
[09:53] <lupine_> you're just looking to see that you own the files, and the owner has rwx permissions
[09:53] <Gibbster> rkd:
[09:54] <Gibbster> rkd: Ah. That I can tell you
[09:54] <tepus6> hi, im having trouble with a PNY Verto GeForce FX 5200.. I have installed the nvidia driver and set xorg to use it. But when ever i try to start X it locks up and will not run... any ideas or suggestions?
[09:54] <zzsputnik> for Andy_Alpha
[09:54] <Quentusrex> sethk there isn't a script folder
[09:54] <Quentusrex> it isn't making it for some reason.
[09:54] <lupine_> by "you", I mean user "zuhause01xx", of course :)
[09:54] <Gibbster> rkd: last time it happened, it pinged ok, but ssh timed out
[09:54] <Quentusrex> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21319
[09:54] <Quentusrex> that's the full output
[09:54] <rkd> Andy_Alpha: oh, the package name is firefox, not mozilla-firefox, sorry
[09:54] <Draconicus> Would anyone here know why Sauerbraten is having GLX problems? It won't start, but I have everything it needs to run..
[09:54] <ompaul> Andy_Alpha, there is paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pastes, please don't do that (paste in the channel) thanks
[09:54] <Andy_Alpha> zzsputnik I don't understand. What?
[09:55] <Gibbster> rkd: annoying problem to solve, since whenever I change something on the server, I need to wait half an hour to see if it fixed it ;-)
[09:55] <zzsputnik> i dont have a full screen
[09:55] <TheAbecedarian> How do I start the text based installer in the alternate cd?
[09:55] <zzsputnik> with irc
[09:55] <NemesisUK> Draconicus, what vid card
[09:55] <Omni|Work> The Mercurial package shipped with Ubuntu is horribly old.  And even if it weren't, I sometimes do development work with Mercurial.  So, I would very much like to be able to create my own Mercurial packages.
[09:55] <Draconicus> NemesisUK: Nvidia Geforce MX 4000.
[09:55] <Ratzilla> is there a guide to  manually config wireless for wep?
[09:55] <zzsputnik> thats why i !paste for you
[09:55] <rkd> Gibbster: can you crank down the sleep mode timing to five minutes?
[09:56] <Quentusrex> there's the newest version
[09:56] <Gibbster> rkd: yeah. I'll try that
[09:56] <rkd> Gibbster: then that'd speed things up or show it's not related to sleep mode
[09:56] <covOPprometheus> covOPprometheus, .
[09:56] <lupine_> omni|work - the fastest (maybe not best) way to make your own packages is with 'checkinstall'
[09:56] <Quentusrex> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21320
[09:56] <Omni|Work> Is there a guide somewhere with some simple steps for taking an existing .deb file + source code and creating a new package with the new source code?
[09:57] <NemesisUK> Draconicus, sorry mate know nothing about getting Nvidia cards working
[09:57] <lupine_> works well with anything that you run "make install" to get working
[09:57] <tepus6> hi, im having trouble with a PNY Verto GeForce FX 5200.. I have installed the nvidia driver and set xorg to use it. But when ever i try to start X it locks up and will not run... any ideas or suggestions?
[09:57] <Andy_Alpha> RKD Yes. It works!!! I have FireFox... THX!!!!
[09:57] <Omni|Work> lupine_: Oh, interesting.
[09:57] <Luke> anyone know a way to use matlab on linux for free? or just compile matlab files?
[09:57] <NemesisUK> Draconicus, you tried the binary driver howto's
[09:57] <ompaul> Omni|Work,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToBuildDebianPackagesFromScratch
[09:57] <lupine_> you just download the source, run ./configure (if needed), make, then checkinstall -D make install
[09:57] <Quentusrex> Anybody know how to remove everything other than the base server packages and ssh, openssh-server packages?
[09:57] <wilfredH> can anyone tell me what packages I need to install to let me compile programs from source?
[09:57] <Ratzilla> can anyone pointme in the direction of the config file for wireless?
[09:58] <Omni|Work> ompaul: Thanks.
[09:58] <Andy_Alpha> RKD And help! As it's probably connected!! THX Again!!
[09:58] <Omni|Work> lupine_: Downloading checkinstall now.  :-)
[09:58] <zzsputnik> lupine  ls -al /dev/hda     brw-rw----  1 root disk 3, 6 2006-08-21 21:27 /dev/hda6
[09:58] <NemesisUK> !nvidia
[09:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:58] <regeya> Luke, knowing nothing about matlab, I'll mention octave
[09:58] <Ratzilla> !wep
[09:58] <Draconicus> NemesisUK: There's nothing wrong with my drivers.
[09:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:58] <nemtaro> hi, if a partition suddenly becomes "read-only" without any configuration changes or reboots, is it certain that there is a hardware problem with the hdd?
[09:58] <rkd> Andy_Alpha: no problem, glad to be useful
[09:58] <Omni|Work> lupine_: It's a Python package that uses setup.py, so checkinstall could work.
[09:59] <lupine_> erm. I haven't used it in that situation before
[09:59] <lupine_> worth a try, though, I guess ;)
[09:59] <Draconicus> NemesisUK: Perhaps I should have mentioned that I've already installed the nvidia drivers, but apparently you didn't believe me when I said I had everything I should need installed.
[09:59] <zzsputnik> lupine_   brw-rw----  1 root disk 3, 6 2006-08-21 21:27 /dev/hda6
[09:59] <lupine_> zzsputnik: the directories themselves, not the device file
[09:59] <zzsputnik> ls -al /dev/hda6
[10:00] <lupine_> "ls -l /home"
[10:00] <lupine_> "ls -l ~/.."
[10:00] <Draconicus> NemesisUK: Pardon the attitude. This channel and ##linux have given me nothing but run-around and ignorance all day.
[10:00] <Quentusrex> is there a way to remove all packages other than what is initially installed from the base server install?
[10:00] <apo`> Hi, does anybody here know ark? I've made this script: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/3014/ but when I run it I get awk: 1: unexpected character '.'
[10:01] <jolt> Heh anyone know a workaround for Edgy displaying blank dialog boxes and text not appearing unless its highlighted
[10:01] <jolt> tried NV and Nvidia.. didnt help
[10:01] <zzsputnik> lupine_   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21322    keine berechtigung means NO PERMISSION
[10:02] <crimsun> jolt: you either need to use Xgl or to disable renderaccel [and possible xaa completely] 
[10:02] <Ratzilla> can anyone pointme in the direction of the config file for wireless?
[10:02] <zzsputnik> i hope this is it this time?
[10:02] <zzsputnik> :D
[10:02] <jolt> XGL
[10:03] <lupine_>  /etc/network/interfaces
[10:04] <zzsputnik> that for me?
[10:04] <lupine_> no, for ratzilla :)
[10:04] <Quentusrex> does anyone know how to remove the postfix package?
[10:04] <zzsputnik> :D
[10:04] <Ratzilla> lupine_: thank you
[10:04] <Quentusrex> I need to purge postfix from my system
[10:04] <jolt> crimsun. Any good docs on setting up XGL.. hear its a crap shoot
[10:05] <Quentusrex> apt-get install postfix is crapping out because the /etc/postfix/postfix-scripts folder isn't being created.
[10:05] <crimsun> jolt: #ubuntu-xgl
[10:05] <Ratzilla> jolt: xgl isnt that great, it scrweed up xine for me
[10:05] <jolt> An: Uh. commercial wine will run Itunes...
[10:05] <lupine_> you still seem to be on the wrong track :). you need to know the permissions of the directories /home and /home/zuhause01xx
[10:05] <Andy_Alpha> RKD me again. FireFox worked fine for a time, and then it crashed again. "Segmentation fault" again.
[10:06] <lupine_> (that was for zzsputnik)
[10:06] <zzsputnik> :D
[10:06] <jolt> Well its a no win for me, some apps dont like having no accelerated driver, and other apps id like to see text....
[10:06] <jolt> Just was hoping to stop dual booting to Dapper
[10:07] <Andy_Alpha> is it normal for ubuntu to spend 10% of dual opteron resurces on chating on IRC?
[10:07] <acidspoon> i have some burning problems. can somebody help me?
[10:07] <jolt> Ipods are not an open standard... You were dumb enough to buy one
[10:07] <Draconicus> NemesisUK: Not going to help me anymore?
[10:07] <lupine_> andy_Alpha: it'll be spending 9% of it's power organising the remaining 1%? ;)
[10:07] <seatouch> anyone know how to mount /dev/hdb3           10454       11983    12289725    5  Extended ??
[10:08] <jolt> the licensing bull with mp3 sucks but at least you can usually drag and drop to a usb based mp3 player
[10:08] <lupine_> joking aside, I've got loads open and I'm under 10% cpu on a solitary sempron 2400+
[10:08] <jolt> Whatcha got running as a background processes?
[10:08] <jolt> Something you dont need?
[10:09] <alephant> Hi all...
[10:09] <zzsputnik> lupine_   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21324  thats i and ---->  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21325 the other
[10:09] <lamego> Andy_Alpha, how did you check that those 10% are being used by the irc client ?
[10:09] <seatouch> well ?
[10:09] <lupine_> sell the iPod on eBay and buy an iRiver instead? ;)
[10:09] <balaco> I was wondering if someone could help with an install problem with Ubuntu 6.06?
[10:09] <seatouch> someone tell me how to mount that ?
[10:09] <alephant> ...I wanted to install all linux-image packages except for -server...
[10:10] <seatouch> balaco,  ask without asking to ask
[10:10] <lamego> seatouch, didn't I told you already ?
[10:10] <seatouch> lamego,  cudnt add it
[10:10] <seatouch> lamego,  didnt wan to bother u cos i thought u were away
[10:10] <lamego> seatouch, what was the problem ?
[10:10] <lupine_> seatouch: you can't - it's a metapartition ?
[10:10] <alephant> er... I think I know what I did wrong :-b
[10:10] <lamego> seatouch, btw, you need to create the dir.. sudo mkdir /media/hdb3
[10:10] <lupine_> i.e. a containiner for logical partitions?
[10:10] <seatouch> lamego,  ok sure leme do that
[10:10] <balaco> When I install it gets stuck at about 50% done.
[10:11] <lamego> oh, its not a logical part ?
[10:11] <untung> Hi, Does ubuntu 6.06 LTS work with AMD Turion64?
[10:11] <alephant> balaco, is that all the problem description you can come up with?
[10:11] <seatouch> lamego,  yeah its extended
[10:11] <lupine_> no, it's an extended one. so you need to mount the logical partition (/dev/hdb5 updwards) instead
[10:12] <lamego> seatouch, sudo fdisk -l
[10:12] <balaco> Pretty much. I am pretty new to Linux but have a minimal know how.
[10:12] <lamego> to list your partitions
[10:12] <lupine_> zzsputnik: permissions are all correct
[10:12] <lupine_> so I'm not sure what's wrong
[10:12] <lupine_> tried a reboot? ;)
[10:12] <seatouch> lamego,  its listed there
[10:12] <zzsputnik> yup
[10:12] <zzsputnik> several times
[10:12] <seatouch> !paste
[10:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:13] <alephant> balaco, I'm positive you can come up with more detail than that.  E.g.: what does the screen say when it stops?  Does it always stop in the exact same spot? What kind of install are you trying? Etc.
[10:13] <lupine_> if you unmount the /home partition, are there any files in the /home directory afterwards?
[10:13] <balaco> Everytime I try to reinstall it just freezes the gui at about 50% but the mouse will still move but I cant click on anything.
[10:13] <zzsputnik> 1moment
[10:13] <seatouch> lamego,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21327
[10:13] <alephant> did you confirm your install cd isn't corrupted?
[10:13] <lupine_> balaco: if you hit alt+F4 (or alt+f3?) you'll get a non-pretty terminal screen that'll give you specific details of what's happening
[10:14] <milwark> hey all... i have a question.... i'm trying to et freenet working, but it's having some java issues... i've tried installing java "manually," but i guess i didn't do something right... i've tried doing it through synaptic package manager, but i can't find it (even though i've added all of the repositories that it comes with and have clicked "reload")... any ideas as to why java isn't showing up on the list?
[10:14] <lupine_> so you can see exactly what it's sticking on
[10:14] <alephant> balaco: actually, you'll need ctrl-alt-f4 (or f3?)
[10:14] <lamego> seatouch, yes, but it is not listed as ntfs !
[10:14] <SpComb> ...and then alt-f7 to get back to here
[10:14] <balaco> ill try that
[10:14] <seatouch> lamego,  how do i load it then ?
[10:14] <lupine_> oh, graphical installer...
[10:14] <zzsputnik> says that device is still in use
[10:14] <Ratzilla> milwark: check /etc/apt/sources.list is there anythign comented out?
[10:14] <alephant> lupine_: ("mouse will still move")
[10:14] <lamego> seatouch, you dont, erm, it doesn0t contain data
[10:14] <lupine_> try rebooting into single user mode (aka rescue)
[10:15] <lupine_> alephant: I'm used to a terminal mouse
[10:15] <seatouch> lamego, huh
[10:15] <tuxedup> i dont supposeanyone knows what the name of this wallpaper is http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/15722-1.png i am having trouble trying to find the full size version
[10:15] <alephant> lupine_ fair enough
[10:15] <lamego> your ntfs partitions are /dev/hdb1 and 2
[10:15] <seatouch> lamego,  sheet i :( i lost most of my data
[10:15] <lamego> seatouch, only if you choose do delete it :)
[10:16] <milwark> ratzilla: nope... the only lines commented out are actual comments, not URLs
[10:16] <seatouch> lamego,  i accidently formatted it i think during installation when i took the second option
[10:16] <lupine_> almost did that on an SuSE 10.1 install
[10:16] <lupine_> heart-stopping moment
[10:17] <Gibbster> rdk: ok. did it again. but I set the display sleep to 1 minute, and it takes longer than that
[10:17] <seatouch> lupine_, yup
[10:17] <alephant> I installed the linux-server kernel package, and I want to remove all the "other" kernel packages in one fell swoop.
[10:17] <seatouch> damn sht i deleted all my songs as well
[10:17] <milwark> ratzilla: any other ideas? i've searched for packages starting with "java," "sun-java," etc. with no luck
[10:17] <alephant> apt-get remove linux-image-386 only removes the virtual package; I want the specific 2.6.15-xx-arch and modules packages as well
[10:17] <alephant> what's the packagename to remove?
[10:17] <seatouch> this time the installation is too confusing
[10:17] <lamego> alephant, you will need to list them and delete manually
[10:17] <seatouch> i like the one in 5.10
[10:17] <Snakehit> you have winrar in ubuntu?
[10:17] <Gibbster> rkd, rather
[10:18] <alephant> lamego, you're kidding me!
[10:18] <lamego> alephant, the versions can be listed on your menu.lst
[10:18] <alephant> lamego, is there really no way to get 'em all automagically?
[10:18] <balaco> There is nothing going on in the Alt+F3 or Alt+F4 screens.
[10:18] <lamego> alephant, no, they are working on a way to do that on the next version
[10:18] <rkd> Gibbster: hmm
[10:18] <lamego> alephant, I do that frequently, it is not that hard :)
[10:18] <alephant> lamego I can do it manually, but I'm trying to script so that all newly-installed boxen are identical
[10:18] <Gibbster> and I think I mentioned that I can always ping the server
[10:19] <alephant> Then YTF does a "server install" from the Alternate Install CD not install the "-server" kernel!?
[10:19] <lamego> alephant, well, you woul need to script that
[10:19] <rkd> Gibbster: does sshd have a debugging/ heavy logging option?
[10:19] <Zonoid> Could anyone here help me install Ubuntu on a Dell Latitude CS?
[10:19] <lamego> you can get the list of installed kernels... with the dpkg tools
[10:19] <Gibbster> uh... I don't know!
[10:19] <lamego> alephant, it is an easy script :P
[10:19] <Gibbster> I'll check that out, though
[10:19] <antiPosix> I just plugged my ubuntu system into a diferent monitir and rebooted.  Upon booting it says OUT OF RANGE.  so I Control-ALT-F1'ed to a console.  Is there any TUI's for setting up a xorg-xserver's display?
[10:19] <lupine_> alephant: you could build a metapackage that depends on all the images except the one you want...
[10:19] <alephant> lamego Feh.  I'm not afraid of scripting ig... I was just hoping that apt-get would do the heavy lifting for me
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> antiPosix: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:20] <lupine_> or you can awk the output of apt-cache search linux-image-* and apt-get remove them all except the one you want
[10:20] <lamego> alephant, not on this case, that is beeing worked for edgy, someone will do that script for you :P
[10:20] <antiPosix> fyrestrtr: : thank you much!
[10:20] <alephant> so my missing -server kernel?  I thought was one of the diffs in "server install"
[10:20] <alephant> (wow, I really can't type today)
[10:20] <lamego> alephant, btw, make sure you roll out your machines with the .1 CD :)
[10:20] <Ratzilla> milwark: try sudo apt-get install java-common
[10:21] <Zonoid> I need help running Linux from a live cd on my Dell Latitude CS. It's hanging during startup. Would anyone be able to help me?
[10:21] <alephant> Yeah, that's probably a pretty good idea :-)
[10:21] <alephant> Zonoid, where does it hang?
[10:21] <byen> Hey guys.. is "sudo apt-get install linux-686" enuff to install the 686 kernel?
[10:21] <lamego> alephant, btw, you are doing a mass rollout ?
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> Zonoid: turn off acpi
[10:21] <Ratzilla> milwark: if that doesnt work, have you checked out this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java?highlight=%28java%29
[10:21] <lupine_> if the machines are identical, you could always fall back on the wonderful dd if=/dev/hda of=hd.img
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> byen: yes
[10:21] <Zonoid> Fyrestrtr: I tried that.
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> byen: (and then reboot)
[10:22] <Zonoid> Alephant: I'll tell you. I need to find it again. Just a sec.
[10:22] <alephant> lamego, Not really.  Just got a bunch of customers who are paying for install/support and I'd like to be able to not think about them individually.
[10:22] <Aagni> whats the difference between the 386 and 686 kernel?
[10:22] <lamego> alephant, ah ok :)
[10:22] <milwark> ratzilla: it says that it's already the newest version... hmm... all i know is that i get an everlasting line of exceptions when i run freenet... i'll check out that site
[10:22] <Draconicus> Would anyone here know why Sauerbraten is having GLX problems? It won't start, but I have everything it needs to run, including the drivers, which are running.
[10:22] <lupine_> a few optimisations for speed
[10:22] <byen> fyrestrtr, anyway i can prevent the newer 386 kernels from being dloaded.. as i wont be using them?
[10:22] <lupine_> that's about it ;)
[10:22] <xxpor2> hi Kennyout
[10:22] <alephant> lamego, I'm working on a Xen approach, and I'm definitely looking at debootstrap
[10:22] <Aagni> lupine_: such as?
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> byen: remove linux-386
[10:22] <Zonoid> Alephant: It hangs on "Mounting root file system"
[10:22] <Kennyout> xxpor2!
[10:22] <lupine_> things like MMX, for instance?
[10:22] <byen> fyrestrtr, oh... cool.. thanks mate
[10:23] <Aagni> lupine_: so why isnt it installed by default?
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> Zonoid: what are the specs of your laptop?
[10:23] <lupine_> linux-386 *will* run on a 386. linux-686 won't
[10:23] <xxpor2> who killed the forums :X
[10:23] <Aagni> lupine_: so who's asking it to?
[10:23] <xxpor2> and they're back
[10:23] <harisund> xxpor2 that's what I would like to know as well :)
[10:23] <docgnome> does anyone know of a way to tell ubuntu to send certain kinds of traffic through certain interfaces?
[10:23] <Zonoid> Fyrestrtr: Petium II/12 GB space / 128 MB memory
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> docgnome: iptables :)
[10:23] <lupine_> I installed ubuntu on a pre-mmx P120 laptop recently
[10:23] <lamego> alephant, do you know openvz ? maybe its also a good option :)
[10:23] <harisund> docgnome:  you could use iptables
[10:23] <Aagni> lupine_: if it can detect so many things why not detect 686 and install a kernel accordingly
[10:24] <lupine_> wouldn't have been able to do that if it loaded up the linux-686 kernel
[10:24] <docgnome> Oh yeah... Why didn't I think of that?
[10:24] <Zonoid> I know it's not a lot, but Ubuntu should install.
[10:24] <lupine_> I'm not a developer ;)
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> Zonoid: you need 256 RAM for the livecd to work, you better try the alternate install cd.
[10:24] <alephant> lamego, never heard of it.  STFWing it...
[10:24] <perl_cont> hello
[10:24] <justin_> What is the name for the 3D cube like desktop again? - Cubix?
[10:24] <perl_cont> I'll think about it
[10:24] <Aagni> lupine_: oh, that i agree
[10:24] <Zonoid> Fyrestrtr: Where can I find that?
[10:24] <lupine_> they're thinking about getting rid of the varying subarchs anyway
[10:24] <Andy> Hi. I have 6.06.1 LTS Desktop AMD64. FireFox won't open ("segmentation fault"). When I reinstall, it works until I get to help.ubuntu.com (no less). Segmentation fault again. Any ideas?
[10:24] <lamego> alephant, its a lighter virtualization, os level virtualization
[10:24] <Aagni> but it should detect that i have what it needs to have a 686 kernel and install it
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> Zonoid: same page as the desktop cd.
[10:24] <Ratzilla> justin_: thats XGL/compiz
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> !xgl > justin_
[10:25] <docgnome> Would I be able to say, send ssh traffic out eth0 and everything else out ppp0?
[10:25] <lupine_> https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/retire-optimized-kernels
[10:25] <docgnome> I don't have any experience with iptables
[10:25] <Zonoid> Fyrestrtr: Thanks. I'll try that. Also, do you happen to know how to get Ubuntu to install on an iMac G5? Many people have apparently had issues with this.
[10:25] <alephant> docgnome, you should be able to do that with "marks" in iptables
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> Zonoid: send me one, and I'll figure it out :)
[10:25] <justin_> Ratzilla: Yeah just found it ;) thnx
[10:25] <alephant> docgnome, "fwmark", even
[10:25] <Zonoid> Fyrestrtr: :-D
[10:25] <Andy> Hi. I have 6.06.1 LTS Desktop AMD64. FireFox won't open ("segmentation fault"). When I reinstall, it works until I get to help.ubuntu.com (no less). Segmentation fault again. Any ideas?
[10:26] <alephant> Andy, don't just repeat yourself
[10:26] <docgnome> alephant: ok. Thanks, I'll look that up
[10:26] <Aagni> so, should i be making any checks before i install 686 ?
[10:26] <compotatoj> What does 'ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/04' mean?
[10:26] <Aagni> kernel 686, that is
[10:26] <Snakehit> how do you install archive-manager?
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> docgnome: if its just ssh, you can just have it listen on the ip address that the network card is listening on. By default, it listen on all interfaces.
[10:26] <alephant> lamego, OpenVZ's logo makes my eyes hurt :-b
[10:27] <Aagni> !archive-manager
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about archive-manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <lupine_> if you needed to make any checks, you'd know about it :D
[10:27] <Aagni> hmm
[10:27] <Aagni> lupine_: so i just apt-get it
[10:27] <Aagni> ?
[10:27] <docgnome> fyrestrtr: really? thats just a config for ssh?
[10:27] <lupine_> yep
[10:27] <lupine_> maske sure you recompile any custom modules
[10:27] <lupine_> like wlan, video
[10:28] <lupine_> since they're specific to the kernel
[10:28] <Aagni> lupine_: recompile!!
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> docgnome: aye. If that's all you need to do. You only want to mess with iptables if there is traffic that you can't control (ie, you are running a gateway) and you want to control which interface uses what.
[10:28] <lupine_> yes, _re_compile ;)
[10:28] <lupine_> if you haven't done any (including the nVidia linux installer), then don't worry about it
[10:28] <Aagni> lupine_: why would i want to do that?
[10:28] <Zonoid> Wow. Are there really 845 users in this room right now?
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> if you are going to recompile, you also need to install the linux-headers package for the new kernel.
[10:28] <lupine_> if you had an rt2570 usb stick, f'rinstance
[10:29] <apo`> *tries again* does anybody here know AWK?
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> apo`: its the sound crows make
[10:29] <lupine_> replacing the operating system isn't exactly "simple" ;)
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> apo`: awwwwk awwwwwwwk
[10:29] <omong_kosong> !awk
[10:29] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:29] <Anubuntu> Aagni: but once its set up... its such a breeze...
[10:29] <apo`> if ( length(album)>1 ) print artist, " [ ", album, disc, " #", track, "]  - ", title else print artist, " - ", title <--- This gets me a syntax error at or near if
[10:29] <apo`> fyrestrtr, ha ha ha.
[10:29] <Aagni> lupine_: how i wish
[10:29] <sethk> apo`, I stopped using awk in 1975 when better things became available
[10:29] <Aagni> Anubuntu: agreed, perhaps thats why it isnt a laymans OS yet
[10:29] <Aagni> i tried teaching my wife linux
[10:30] <lupine_> you're doing the equivalent of copying system32.dll from a windows XP machine on to a windows 3.1 machine
[10:30] <Aagni> she quit in two days
[10:30] <alephant> lamego, OpenVZ looks interesting.  Have you ever used it?
[10:30] <lupine_> first time I did it, I was amazed how well linux coped
[10:30] <Lamego> alephant, test it on a web hosting, didn't setup it myself
[10:30] <Andy> Hi. I have 6.06.1 LTS Desktop AMD64. FireFox won't open ("segmentation fault"). When I reinstall, it works until I get to help.ubuntu.com (no less). Segmentation fault again. Any ideas?
[10:30] <Aagni> coped?
 apo`, I stopped using awk in 1975 when better things became available < Like?
[10:30] <lupine_> andy: dodgy plugin?
[10:31] <Aagni> Andy: remove firefxo and reinstall it
[10:31] <gary[ubuntu] > how do I get software updates to stop bugging me about updating my patched wine?
[10:31] <alephant> Andy: and don't go to help.ubuntu.com anymore
[10:31] <compotatoj> Andy: install swiftfox
[10:31] <sethk> apo`, for that kind of thing I'd probably write a quick python program
[10:31] <lupine_> try the firefox 2 beta? :)
[10:31] <alephant> Andy: infact, don't come here any more either
[10:31] <apo`> I don't know python
[10:31] <sethk> apo`, the reason is obvious; awk is cryptic and when something doesn't work, what do you do?
[10:31] <alephant> sethk: pray
[10:31] <lupine_> does python *actually* use indentation as a part of the language?
[10:31] <apo`> Ask somebody
[10:31] <sethk> apo`, learn it.  For things like this you can learn enough in a couple of hours
[10:31] <Lamego> sethk,you read the manual :P
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> lupine_: not indentation, whitespace.
[10:32] <lupine_> I was hacking a script t'other day, and it sure looked like it did
[10:32] <lupine_> *shudder*
[10:32] <Aagni> and whats this new fad of having to restart ubuntu?
[10:32] <sethk> Lamego, what's a manual?  :)
[10:32] <alephant> lupine_ Yeah, it's equivalent to curly braces in Perl or C
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> sethk: that book you use to prop up your desk
[10:32] <lupine_> well, you could compile kexec support in if you prefer
[10:32] <lupine_> (aagni)
[10:32] <Lamego> sethk, some you can find at google :P
[10:32] <sethk> fyrestrtr, oh, I was wondering what that was
[10:32] <lupine_> but I wouldn't recommend it
[10:32] <Aagni> lupine_: (yes)?
[10:32] <mcphail> apo`: some of the people on #bash may be able to help you with your awk syntax
[10:32] <alephant> lupine_, I'm not going to even approach the flamewar of whether whitespace-as-syntax is good or bad, but I really like it
[10:32] <lupine_> lets one linux kernel boot another one up
[10:33] <Aagni> lupine_: sorry to be the critique, but these questions are being asked day again and i have no answer
[10:33] <mcphail> apo`: but, honestly, learn a modern scripting language
[10:33] <lupine_> I really dislike it, so we can politely agree to disagree :)
[10:33] <seatouch> whats the command to add mp3 codects ?
[10:33] <seatouch> i mean to play mp3 files
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> !mp3
[10:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:33] <Lamego> !mp3 > seatouch
[10:33] <Aagni> lupine_: u got it
[10:33] <docgnome> fyrestrtr: I just have my ubuntu box pluged into a wireless router for my local network and it's also plugged into my dialup modem... I'd like to be able to ssh to/xforward from the ubuntu box from my laptop and get things from the internet
[10:33] <Lattyware> I'm having a problem with burning DVDs, I am using K3B, and I can only get about 1x speeds, which is extremely slow.
[10:34] <Aagni> anyway, anyone know how to disable animations on my ubuntu box
[10:34] <Aagni> ?
[10:34] <Anubuntu> aagni: ive known computer illiterates that use a distro that has been presetup for them. its really good for people who just want net, email, word, and music. since it runs faster, and thats not to hard to setup
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> docgnome: you want to share the internet with your laptop, or you want to access ssh from the internet?
[10:34] <lupine_> animations?
[10:34] <torpor> hi all
[10:34] <docgnome> fyrestrtr: share the internet with my lappy
[10:34] <Aagni> but what about others - those who are trying to look for another alternative to windows
[10:34] <mcphail> docgnome: wireless speeds are too slow for x forwarding
[10:34] <Lattyware> I've tried both with DMA and without.
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> docgnome: install firestarter
[10:35] <docgnome> fyrestrtr: firestarter?
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> docgnome: aye
[10:35] <torpor> whats the quick ubuntuu way to update my NVIDIA install so it works again?  i guess i 'auto-updated' through software update and ended up with a bung nvidia setup so that after i rebooted, no graphics ...
[10:35] <torpor> !nvidia
[10:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:35] <Aagni> !firestarter > docgnome
[10:35] <lupine_> ReactOS? Mac OSX? BeOS? FreeBSD? Heaven forbid, OS/2?
[10:35] <Ackeubu_> you know any direct connect clients for ubuntu?
[10:35] <Ratzilla> does anyone have wep working on an iw2200 card?
[10:36] <crimsun> Ratzilla: sure
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> !p2p
[10:36] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network). BitTorrent: see !torrent Direct connect: try valknut
[10:36] <Aagni> !torrent >aagni
[10:36] <Ratzilla> crimsun: in /etc/network/interfaces, under the card, do you have anything other than the essid and key?
[10:36] <Aagni> any good bittorent clients for gnome?
[10:37] <docgnome> Aagni: AH. thanks
[10:37] <Lattyware> Aagni: Use uTorrent via Wine
[10:37] <Aagni> docgnome: thanks :)
[10:37] <Aagni> Lattyware: ugly :(
[10:37] <tinn> Or you could use the shell bt client
[10:37] <gnutech> any driver gurus here?
[10:37] <Aagni> tinn: how so?
[10:37] <Lattyware> I'm trying to burn DVDs, I have used both K3b and the build in DVD/CD burning software, and have both enabled and disabled DMA, and I can only get 1X speeds, using 8x media and a drive that supports at least 8x.
[10:37] <crimsun> Ratzilla: I didn't, no.
[10:37] <Ratzilla> i use azureus even though its shit
[10:37] <Lattyware> I would apreciate any help.
[10:38] <tinn> ?
[10:38] <void^> Ratzilla: how so?
[10:38] <Aagni> Ratzilla: i like azureus too, but complete resource hog
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> Lattyware: how is the drive connected to your machine?
[10:38] <Lattyware> Aagni: Maybe ugly, but uTorrent is the best torrent app out there.
[10:38] <Aagni> Latty
[10:38] <Lattyware> fyrestrtr: IDE.
[10:38] <Ratzilla> once one of those warnings pop up, it doesnt go away
[10:38] <Aagni> Lattyware: sorry .. yeah tell me about it. I live the app
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> Lattyware: is it a master or slave on a channel?
[10:38] <Lattyware> fyrestrtr: Master
[10:38] <sd6asset> Listen guys, I have installed kubuntu but what I noticed first is the poor quality of sound here, may be the drivers installed automaticly are unnapropriate or this a common problem with ubuntu?
[10:38] <alephant> Hey, anybody know how to use grub-set-default?  I tried to use that to boot a particular entry, but my zeroeth entry booted instead.
[10:39] <alephant> Anybody got any ideas?
[10:39] <lupine_> sd6asset: is this in xmms?
[10:39] <tinn> apt-get install bittorrent
[10:39] <void^> Ratzilla: ancient bug, fixed long time ago
[10:39] <lupine_> My kubuntu sound is crystal clear
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> alephant: open up /boot/grub/menu.lst and change default 0 to whatever you want.
[10:39] <tinn> then you just run it from the command line with the url of the torrent file
[10:39] <gnutech> i have an intigrated Intel network card, but everytime I try and bring it up it gives me this error "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable."
[10:39] <sd6asset> lupine_, hmm, I am a newbie in linux i am afraid i dunno what it is
[10:39] <alephant> fyrestrtr: yeah, but that's not what I asked :-D
[10:39] <Lattyware> Any ideas?
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> alephant: or, just enable the menu by commenting out hiddenmenu and increase the timer a bit.
[10:39] <alephant> fyrestrtr: ibid.
[10:40] <Aagni> tinn: done. next
[10:40] <crimsun> gnutech: need more detail, any available from dmesg?
[10:40] <lupine_> Add the "sound mixer" applet to your panel (right-click->add applet->sound mixer) and have a play
[10:40] <Aagni> sd6asset: whats ur prob again
[10:40] <Aagni> ?
[10:40] <lupine_> usually it's a volume prob or something similar
[10:40] <BHSPitMonkey> does anybody here have a lightscribe burner? (is it possible to get it working from linux? via vmware, nero-linux etc)
[10:40] <lupine_> low sound quality
[10:40] <gnutech> crimsun: yes "e100: eth0: e100_probe: addr 0xfeaff000, irq 17, MAC addr 00:0C:6E:9D:00:2A"
[10:40] <lupine_> (aagni)
[10:40] <crimsun> gnutech: anything else?
[10:40] <Aagni> lupine_: yes?
[10:41] <sd6asset> Aagni, sound is very poor for mp3s compared to windows
[10:41] <Ratzilla> void^: really? ill update and see if it works
[10:41] <lupine_> ^what he said^ :)
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> Lattyware: what kind of drive is it? how is it detected as?
[10:41] <Aagni> sd6asset: poor as in terms of volume?
[10:41] <gnutech> crimsun: i've tried both e100 and eepro100 drivers and only have slightly more success with eepro100
[10:41] <lupine_> I've had that in a few mp3 players (most notably xmms) - it's always been volume
[10:41] <Aagni> sd6asset: or poor as in you get hisses or something like it
[10:41] <lupine_> hence sound mixer
[10:41] <Lattyware> HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B, It's a LG drive.
[10:41] <sethk> alephant, I use it.  I did discover a bug with a grub version.  I upgraded grub to the latest and the bug went away.
[10:42] <crimsun> gnutech: without at least strace -fF output, it'll be difficult to progress.
[10:42] <lupine_> lattyware: I've got that exact same one and can burn at 30ishx CD, 4ishx DVD
[10:42] <sd6asset> Aagni, as in if i put the volume to maximum it scratches i dunno
[10:42] <phreakys> hi
[10:42] <gnutech> crimsun: eepro100 will come up, but only has irq and no base address and i can't ping gateway
[10:42] <Aagni> hmm ..
[10:42] <sethk> alephant, the bug was that it didn't update the file that contains the next boot state
[10:42] <alephant> sethk: that sounds like me
[10:42] <Lattyware> Hmmm... Well, I'm getting 0.97x-1.5x.
[10:42] <BHSPitMonkey> nobody knows anything about Lightscribe+Linux?
[10:42] <Ratzilla> you can adjust volume in xine..software adjustment that is
[10:43] <sethk> alephant, so it appeared that it did nothing,.  well, in effect it did nothing, although at the code level that wasn't quite true.
[10:43] <phreakys> i followed the ati-fglrx install instructions(succesfully) and then tried the compiz eye candy install
[10:43] <crimsun> gnutech: have you ruled out acpi & apic issues?
[10:43] <Aagni> sd6asset: does this happen with a specific player or irrespective of the player you use
[10:43] <sethk> alephant, I believe the bug was in .96, but don't quote me on that part, as it was three months, or so, ago.
[10:43] <alephant> sethk: "if a tree falls in a forest, but does no IO, did you use cpu time?"
[10:43] <sd6asset> Aagni, with all of them...kaffeine, mplayer, vlc
[10:43] <gnutech> crimsun: i have not.  how might i go about doing that?
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> gnutech: what dmesg you get when you modprobe eepro100 ?
[10:44] <sethk> alephant, metaphysics gives me a headache  :)
[10:44] <crimsun> gnutech: boot with "acpi=off" and/or "noapic"
[10:44] <phreakys> now fglrxinfo doesnt work anymore :S
[10:44] <johso> hey ppl :)
[10:44] <Lattyware> Anyone have any ideas/
[10:44] <Lattyware> *?
[10:44] <gnutech> fyrestrtr: i don't remember.  i will have to reproduce it.  why?
[10:44] <phreakys> just great. fucked up tutorials :/
[10:44] <lupine_> not sure; mine is just the default config
[10:45] <Aagni> sd6asset: did u try using the "Multimedia system selector" ? in preferences?
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> Lattyware: not me, sorry. I have exact same drive, no issues.
[10:45] <lupine_> have you changed anything?
[10:45] <johso> I've just dd'ed my entire linux partition to another, because it showed up as another type, thus not bootable. how would I go about making the new bootable, and install grub?
[10:45] <ompaul> !language
[10:45] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:45] <ompaul> phreakys, ^^
[10:45] <phreakys> sorry
[10:45] <sethk> johso, linux and grub ignore the bootable flag.
[10:45] <ks> how do I clear info about disk space provided by df -h ?
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> gnutech: because if the module loads successfully, then you have a working card and just assign an ip address to it to bring it up.
[10:45] <Lattyware> lupine_: No... Nothing.
[10:45] <sethk> johso, so you don't need to worry about it, except for windows partitions
[10:45] <sd6asset> Aagni, i tried to configure smth in Sound & Multimedia
[10:45] <gnutech> crimsun: i will try it.
[10:45] <ks> it still show same info, whatever I delete
[10:45] <phreakys> just annoyed. this is my second install, just because i dont know how to fix it
[10:45] <alephant> Uh... I actually think that "language" warning was from gnutech's saying "repr0duce"
[10:45] <lupine_> hmm. is the drive you're reading from on a separate IDE/SATA interface to the drive you're writing to?
[10:45] <Zambezi> Anyone installed rtorrent via apt-get and haven't updated it?
[10:46] <sd6asset> is anyone here a regular Valknut user?
[10:46] <torpor> !nvidia
[10:46] <phreakys> if something breaks during the tutorial, its just bad luck
[10:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:46] <Lattyware> lupine_: You say you can get 4x... But the software is trying to burn at 8x, if I set it to start at 4x, could that help?
[10:46] <sethk> johso, now, I'm a bit confused, because the partition type, and the bootable flag, are unrelated.
[10:46] <lupine_> I just tell it auto
[10:46] <sethk> johso, if the partition type is wrong, use fdisk to correct it.
[10:46] <torpor> oaky no matter what i do per the above web page, i can't get my nvidia card working again .. help!! something happened during a software-update and i can't get graphics working ..
[10:46] <lupine_> it levels out at around 4x
[10:46] <johso> sethk: how can I correct it with fdisk?
[10:46] <gnutech> fyrestrtr: it loads successfully but without base address. i assign an ip and check default route but still can't ping gateway.
[10:46] <torpor> is there a way to tell ubuntu to do all the auto-detect stuff that it did the first time to make the card work?
[10:46] <sethk> johso, doing dd doesn't touch the partition table, so it makes sense if the type is wrong, or rather if the type didn't change
[10:46] <santa99> evening how can i shutdown x-server ?
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> torpor: did you update your kernel?
[10:46] <lupine_> (8x -capable discs)
[10:46] <tinn> ks, the output of df doesnt need to be cleared
[10:47] <phreakys> this is the errormessage, hopefully someone can help me out :/
[10:47] <torpor> fyrestrtr: dunno, it was 'automatic software update' on ..
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> santa99: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:47] <sethk> johso, (sudo) fdisk /dev/hda     assuming it is hda.    then use the command to change a partition type.  it will list the commands for you.
[10:47] <johso> sethk: my original linux partition ended up as a wrong type, I have no idea why
[10:47] <johso> sethk: thanks, will try
[10:47] <phreakys> fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:47] <santa99> fyrestrtr, fails for some reason to start it again
[10:47] <torpor> anyone?  re-do NVIDIA config somehow?
[10:47] <alephant> sorry
[10:47] <alephant> no clue
[10:47] <sd6asset> is anyone here a regular Valknut user?
[10:47] <Lattyware> lupine_: I'm using Tesco-own-brand DVD-Rs capable of 8x. They used to achive a decent speed in windows...
[10:47] <gnutech> fyrestrtr: i have even tried downloading the latest e100 driver and compiling it.  same issue.
[10:47] <lupine_> I'm using DVD+R
[10:48] <lupine_> maybe that's the difference?
[10:48] <lupine_> (tesco own-brand, of course :) )
[10:48] <Lattyware> Well, It used to work fine with -R...
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> gnutech: did the card work on the livecd?
[10:48] <Lattyware> Heh, I use Tesco-own-brand as they are the only discs my Xbox drive reads, wierdly.
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> phreakys: are you using xgl/compiz?
[10:48] <lupine_> lol
[10:48] <gary[ubuntu] > how do I get update notifier to stop bugging me about updating a certain package?
[10:48] <lupine_> erm. how about the burning mode? TAO? SAO? DAO?
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> gary[ubuntu] : freeze it from synaptic
[10:49] <johso> sethk: Thank you so much, that could've saved me a lot of trouble, but at least now I know. Going to install grub now.
[10:49] <lupine_> (I always use DAO)
[10:49] <gnutech> fyrestrtr: i never tried livecd.  i went straight to alternate cd
[10:49] <Lattyware> lupine_: It's set to automatic, I have no idea about the difference.
[10:49] <lupine_> shouldn't be much of one, tbh
[10:49] <phreakys> i believe these two commands caused the problem :/
[10:49] <phreakys>    sudo ln -sf /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
[10:49] <phreakys>    sudo ln -sf /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[10:49] <Lattyware> And, as I said, it was working before. The same software, etc... and everything worked.
[10:49] <phreakys> please help
[10:49] <lupine_> what make is your ide interface?
[10:50] <Lattyware> lupine_: No idea.
[10:50] <gnutech> crimson: the error I get when bringing up ethx is an irq error.
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> gnutech: what other hardware do you have on your machine?
[10:50] <Lattyware> Then on one, It just cut down to 1xish and has carried on on every burn since then.
[10:50] <lupine_> (lspci |grep IDE
[10:51] <Curtman> My Xorg server (ubuntu dapper) stopped working after I upgraded, and "X -configure" is even failing with "No devices to configure.  Configuration failed."  Anyone know what might be wrong? There is an ATI R128 All in Wonder in the computer, lspci says pci id 1002:5246 (ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RF/SG AGP)
[10:51] <gary[ubuntu] > fyrestrtr: I used lock version and restarted update-notifier but it didn't work. do I need to use force version? that tries to get me to reinstall the package
[10:51] <Lattyware> And I'm trying to burn like 25 full 4gig DVDs, at 1x, I'm spitting out a disk around once every half hour :'(
[10:51] <gnutech> fyrestrtr: soundcard, video card, etc.  fairly barebone.
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> gnutech: is it a laptop or a desktop? is the network card built-in or external?
[10:51] <Lattyware> 0000:00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation nForce2 IDE (rev a2)
[10:51] <Lattyware> Pretty standard you would think.
[10:52] <lupine_> nForce are crap, TBH
[10:52] <lupine_> quite possible the linux driver is no good for them
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> Curtman: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:52] <lupine_> so no real fix :(
[10:52] <jeekl> Hi, my wlan card refuses to start. running lshw -C network I see that it's not configured. Can someone help me configure it?
[10:52] <lupine_> (mine is a VIA)
[10:52] <Kennyout> When Manually Editing the X HorizontalSync and VerticalRefresh for my monitor, what should i set it at when it can do 70Hz?
[10:52] <gnutech> fyrestrtr: i tried disabling any intigrated devices that i didn't need (i.e., soundcard)
[10:52] <lupine_> jeekl: what card?
[10:52] <Lattyware> ... Except why would it work for the first 5ish burns and then suddenly drop...
[10:53] <jeekl> lupine_: Atheros
[10:53] <Lattyware> I was burning at about 6x, and then It just dropped to 1x on one of them, and hasn't changed since.
[10:53] <PingunZ> where is the splash-screen located in gconf ?
[10:53] <lupine_> you need madwifi then
[10:53] <lupine_> try installing linux-restricted-modules first, as it has a version of it in there already
[10:53] <cherokeegirl> madwifi?
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> PingunZ: system > preferences > splash screen
[10:53] <jeekl> lupine_: Yeah, I thought that was included in restricted modules but I never got that to work
[10:54] <PingunZ> fyrestrtr: I meanth in gconf-editor :)
[10:54] <Curtman> fyrestrtr: That didn't do anything. :(  It can't be just the config file anyway if "X -configure" is failing to find the video card as well.
[10:54] <cherokeegirl> isnt madwifi for atheros chips?
[10:55] <lupine_> yes :)
[10:55] <Lattyware> jeekl> lupine_: Atheros
[10:55] <jeekl> lupine_: Can you point me to any madwifi-howto, since Ive tried installing it myself but I appear to have made som misstake since it's still uncaimed.
[10:55] <gnutech> is there a way to soft set a devices irq and io?
[10:56] <lupine_> if the ones in restricted modules don't work, try the madwifi newbie guide: http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo
[10:56] <cherokeegirl> what about about hostapd?
[10:56] <Aagni> lupine_: i jst rebooted into the new 686 kernel
[10:56] <lupine_> also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Madwifi
[10:56] <DrUnKeN_TiGeR> can anyone help me install a modem in ubuntu
[10:56] <lupine_> aagni: cool. everything working?
[10:56] <Aagni> lupine_: seems slightly slower that my earlier one
[10:56] <cherokeegirl> hostapd brought my 5005g right up with no problems
[10:57] <ks> is it correct sudo du -h | grep [0-9] G ?
[10:57] <Aagni> lupine_: yes
[10:57] <lupine_> cherokeegirl: depends on whether your wlan is usb or not, iirc
[10:57] <ks> i need to find file over Gb size ?
[10:57] <CocaCola77> A friend of mine burnd me the lastest Ubuntu release, however after doing a update, it complains about UGA check failed.
[10:57] <MetaMorfoziS> my konversation's "freenode_#ubuntu.log" are 41mb lol.
[10:57] <Aagni> lupine_: though i dont know why its slower
[10:57] <depi> hello. can me anybody suggest what is the best way to install the latest pgAdmin III 1.4.3??
[10:58] <cherokeegirl> lupine_:oh okay his is usb?
[10:58] <lupine_> no, you can't use hostapd for usb
[10:58] <lupine_> you can use both for pci, I think
[10:58] <lupine_> working from memory
[10:58] <cherokeegirl> sorry i got into the conversation late
[10:58] <lupine_> aagni: me neither
[10:59] <pradeep_> is there a software for ipod video conversion?
[10:59] <lupine_> subjectively slower or bechmark slower?
[10:59] <gnutech> ks: try sudo du -achLS / | grep G
[10:59] <lupine_> (contest is one such benchmark)
[10:59] <Aagni> lupine_: guess it would be more sensible to reboot into 386
[11:00] <Aagni> lupine_: what do  umean?
[11:00] <nox-Hand> Hey
[11:01] <lupine_> as in, get figures on which kernel is faster, rather than subjective impressions
[11:01] <Aagni> lupine_: how do i do that
[11:01] <lupine_> e.g. linux-686 might seemrunning slower because you've just rebooted it... or any one of a number of things
[11:01] <lupine_> apt-get install contest
[11:02] <Aagni> !contest >Aagni
[11:02] <lupine_> reboot into a text-mode environment with linux-686 kernel, run it, collate figures. reboot into linux-386 textmode, rinse, repeat
[11:02] <ben4631> does anyone know why in ubuntu there will randomly be more entries for ubuntu added in grub? like when you select the os you want to boot there are about 8 of the same entries for ubuntu?
[11:02] <Aagni> rinse?
[11:02] <lupine_> shampoo bottle joke. never mind
[11:02] <Aagni> ben42: yeah .. i have them too
[11:02] <ks> how do I exclude dir from du ?
[11:03] <Aagni> lupine_: oh (duh!)
[11:03] <lupine_> ben4631: it adds them whenever you upgrade your kernel
[11:03] <weirdo> is there a way to turn off keyring? or make apps not ask for password everytime i start ones that use keyring?
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[11:03] <ben4631> lupine_: is it okay to delete the older entries then?
[11:03] <lupine_> ks: man du suggests the -x option
[11:04] <lupine_> ben: as long as your current kernel boots properly, yes
[11:04] <lupine_> just apt-get remove the linux-image-* packages you don't use any more
[11:04] <ben4631> I am trying to play counter-strike 1.6 under wine. I have steam working great and everything but when I launch counter-strike it gives me the "preparing to play counter-strike..." dialogue box. Then when the game actually launches it barely flashes the game then x crashes. It goes to a command line waiting for me to login then after a few seconds goes to the graphical login.
[11:04] <ben4631> can anyone help me with that?
[11:05] <lupine_> (and the linux-source and linux-headers and linux-restricted-modules if you've got them. You could save ~200MB of HD space if you're lucky)
[11:06] <lupine_> bem: tried running it in a window?
[11:06] <phreakys> lol
[11:06] <lupine_> ben*
[11:06] <lupine_> might not crash x then, so you can get an error message
[11:06] <xxpor2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21337 why cant i add the repositories?
[11:07] <Gibbster> rkd: hi again. Tried looking up logging info, sshd faq, with no luck
[11:07] <ben4631> lupine_: ill try that
[11:07] <phreakys> compiz finally working :)
[11:07] <Gibbster> rkd: and I still don't know exactly how long it takes to stop working
[11:07] <Gibbster> rkd: longer than 5 minutes, certainly
[11:07] <Aagni> !compiz >Aagni
[11:07] <lupine_> Or I guess you could run 'wine <counterstrike-executable>' in a terminal and redirect stderr to a text file (is it '2&> textfile'? I forget)
[11:08] <Aagni> phreakys: groovy
[11:08] <rkd> Gibbster: did it decrease when you decreased the powersaving sleep time?
[11:08] <phreakys> yea, glad that it works now. im such a noob
[11:08] <lupine_> xxpor2: out of memory error?
[11:08] <Dark_Wolf> Ubuntu installation gets to the Map page and hang when I try to move the cursor on my laptop (Dell Inspiron 1100 | 256 MB RAM | Ubuntu ShipIt disc)
[11:09] <phreakys> wonder if its possible to have seperate desktops (like different backgrounds and icons)
[11:09] <teethdood> how do I switch from totem-xine to totem-gstreamer? (synaptic wants me to uninstall ubuntu-desktop if I deinstall totem-xine)
[11:09] <lupine_> try running top in a separate window and keep an eye on MEM
[11:09] <Anubuntu> what is the best torrent program for linux, I used to use utorrent on windows.
[11:09] <xxpor2> lupine_, is that what that is?
[11:09] <lupine_> mmap() is a function that allocates memory
[11:09] <Anubuntu> I need one that can do more then one download at a time
[11:09] <lupine_> so it seems plausible
[11:09] <lupine_> anubuntu: I use ktorrent
[11:09] <lupine_> works like a charm
[11:09] <Dark_Wolf> Ubuntu installation gets to the Map page and hang when I try to move the cursor on my laptop (Dell Inspiron 1100 | 256 MB RAM | Ubuntu ShipIt disc) How can I fix this?
[11:09] <xxpor2> Anubuntu, you might try utorrent in WINE, it might not work though, never tried it
[11:10] <xxpor2> lupine_, should that work with swap also?
[11:10] <Anubuntu> xxpor2, id prefer not to use wine, since I would like to convert all my drives to ext3
[11:10] <lupine_> when I say running out of memory, I mean RAM + swap
[11:11] <xxpor2> Anubuntu, got it
[11:11] <lupine_> could be wrong though. but easy to test
[11:11] <MetaMorfoziS> !easysourve
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easysourve - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <MetaMorfoziS> !easysource
[11:11] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:11] <santa99> he guys
[11:11] <santa99> i have problems with my S-Video Out
[11:11] <lupine_> (I have system monitor on my panel which is incredibly useful)
[11:11] <xxpor2> lupine_, i get this if i try threw the GUI package man.
[11:11] <xxpor2> W: GPG error: http://mirrors.kernel.org stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5F
[11:12] <sd6asset> htr
[11:12] <Anubuntu> is azereus any good? i have friends who say the mac version was buggy and slow
[11:12] <Dark_Wolf> Ubuntu installation gets to the Map page and hang when I try to move the cursor on my laptop (Dell Inspiron 1100 | 256 MB RAM | Ubuntu ShipIt disc) How can I fix this?
[11:12] <lupine_> use the alternative install CD
[11:12] <Dark_Wolf> someone please answer
[11:12] <santa99> when i plug the cable in and restart I can see the whole system but when I play a video I see the movie only on my laptop screen not on the television screen
[11:12] <lupine_> ^^
[11:12] <itsmegb> Anubuntu: its not too bad, try using the beta Azureus2.jar though
[11:12] <Aagni> Anubuntu: it is a resource hog
[11:12] <Dark_Wolf> I don't have an "Alternative Install" CD
[11:12] <Aagni> Dark_Wolf: no idea, sorry
[11:12] <lupine_> burn one?
[11:13] <santa99> ideas ?
[11:13] <lupine_> xxpor2: it's only a warning. no need to worry about it
[11:13] <lupine_> just means the packages aren't signed
[11:13] <Dark_Wolf> i ordered my cd through shipit because I have dialup
[11:13] <lupine_> (and therefore slightly more vulnerable to dns cache poisoning etc.)
[11:13] <xxpor2> lupine_, ok thanks
[11:13] <lupine_> dark_wolf: try a manual install using debootstrap etc?
[11:13] <santa99> nothing ?
[11:14] <Dark_Wolf> what?
[11:14] <lupine_> manual install
[11:14] <lupine_> hard work
[11:14] <Dark_Wolf> what's so hard about it?
[11:14] <lupine_> you have to set up almost everything yourself ;)
[11:15] <Dark_Wolf> do I have any other options
[11:15] <Aagni> Dark_Wolf: lupine_ s probably tried it
[11:15] <lupine_> not really
[11:15] <m4rk> is the ubuntu book any good?
[11:15] <Dark_Wolf> the install works but it freezes
[11:15] <lupine_> i.e. it doesn't work? ;)
[11:15] <santa99> could someone help me ?
[11:15] <Aagni> Dark_Wolf: do  u see any error in the consoles?
[11:15] <m4rk> can you run a toaster on ubuntu?
[11:15] <Dark_Wolf> what console?
[11:15] <michaeljb2006> How can I remove dependencies that are only dependent upon one application without having to actually write them down or remember them so that I have to remove them myself manually?
[11:15] <lupine_> m4rk: probably
[11:16] <m4rk> lupine_: that is excellent news.
[11:16] <Aagni> Dark_Wolf: try Ctrl+Alt+F1
[11:16] <lupine_> michaeljb2006: install the application using aptitude
[11:16] <michaeljb2006> what if I used synaptic
[11:16] <lupine_> then I don't think you can do it automatically
[11:16] <Aagni> Dark_Wolf: Linux runs multiple terminals ( ilike to call 'em consoles)
[11:16] <msoul> Hey
[11:16] <michaeljb2006> bummer
[11:16] <msoul> How can I upgrade FluxBox?
[11:17] <Aagni> Dark_Wolf: they can be used to see whats happening under the bonnet
[11:17] <lupine_> you could try removing the app in synaptic, reinstalling using aptitude, then uninstalling again
[11:17] <Lattyware> msoul: Download the package with synaptic
[11:17] <Dark_Wolf> anyhoo, I need to know why it decides to take 2 hours on the Time Zone options while it does nothing
[11:17] <lupine_> don't know if that'd work though
[11:17] <Lattyware> msoul: Then select it from the sessions list on the logon screen
[11:17] <xxpor2> lupine_, i know im not running out of mem, my swap is 0% full, and im using 50% mem
[11:17] <Aagni> Dark_Wolf: thats what probably what u will be able to see on those consoles
[11:17] <msoul> Lattyware: I already have FluxBox
[11:18] <Phobia> Hi, I just installed ubuntu on my old dell Inspirion 1100. So far I haven't had any issues with it other then that the screen resolution is set at 640x480. I've tried changing it through system>preferences>Screen Resolution but it has only one option. What can I do to fix this.
[11:18] <Dark_Wolf> shoot
[11:18] <msoul> Lattyware: 0.9.14
[11:18] <Dark_Wolf> I wish I was able to do that now
[11:18] <BSG75> anyone know what this is about?? cannot open /var/spool/qscan/qmail-scanner-queue-version.txt - did you initialise the system by running "qmail-scanner-queue.pl -z"? - Permission denied
[11:18] <Dark_Wolf> maybe if I switch computers
[11:18] <FurryNemesis> Phobia, you can reconfigure your xserver to recognise the new res
[11:18] <erUSUL> !fixres > Phobia
[11:18] <Ratzilla> BSG75: use sudo
[11:18] <Lattyware> msoul: In that case, just start the package manager and hit update
[11:18] <BSG75> thanx
[11:18] <Phobia> How can I do that?
[11:18] <lupine_> Fark_Wolf: if you want to try a debootstrap install, then you can get instructions for debian here: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apcs04.html.en
[11:18] <erUSUL> !fixres
[11:18] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:18] <msoul> Lattyware: Wanted to know how can I upgrade since I get this 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:18] <Gibbster> ok, this is weirdness. I'm using a cable modem. When I connect to my server through the lan, it works. When I connect through the ip my isp gave me, it only works within a few minutes of me playing around locally on the server...
[11:19] <msoul> Lattyware: I did that's what I got 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:19] <FurryNemesis> Phobia, in that case type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in the terminal
[11:19] <lupine_> ubuntu is slightly easier - use the cdrom as the repo, and once the base is installed, just apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:19] <Aagni> Dark_Wolf: probably its stuck trying to detect something or read from the CD
[11:19] <Phobia> Thank you
[11:19] <Lattyware> msoul: Are you sure you don't have the latest version?
[11:19] <lupine_> (in the chroot environment - don't worry, that'll make sense if you read the document.)
[11:19] <alynx> Easiest way to install suns java ?
[11:19] <Gibbster> The ip isn't blocking ports, or else it would never work, right?
[11:19] <Dark_Wolf> is 256 ram too little?
[11:19] <msoul> Lattyware: I'm sure.
[11:19] <Dark_Wolf> my cd drive is fast
[11:20] <lupine_> dark_wolf: just enough for the graphical install
[11:20] <Aagni> Dark_Wolf: nah ..that *may* make it slightly slower, but not too less
[11:20] <Dark_Wolf> but ubuntu is slow on it
[11:20] <lupine_> officially, anyway ;)
[11:20] <msoul> Lattyware: that's what it tells me atleast when I do fluxbox -i
[11:20] <Ratzilla> i'm trying to configure my wireless right now (wep) with a ipw2200 network card but when i use ifup, it tries to connect but after a few tries, i get a no DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping message anyone have any idea how to fix this? according to iwconfig, i have signal
[11:20] <Lattyware> msoul: Make sure you have the right repo's enabled.
[11:20] <FurryNemesis> Dark_Wolf, have you tried the alternate install cd?
[11:20] <Aagni> Dark_Wolf: i have seen it running on 256 Mb
[11:20] <Dark_Wolf> I SAID I DON'T HAVE  AN ALT CD
[11:20] <Lattyware> I'm not an experienced user, so if that doesn't work, you should probably ask someone else.
[11:20] <msoul> Lattyware: Hmmmm, How can I do so?
[11:20] <Aagni> Dark_Wolf: chill man
[11:20] <wng_z3r0> hello?
[11:21] <lupine_> ratzilla: can you get connected without wep? how about with/without wep and with a static ip?
[11:21] <Dark_Wolf> people ask me that everytime i come
[11:21] <Aagni> Dark_Wolf: no need to howl about it (pun intended)
[11:21] <Dark_Wolf> it gets annoying
[11:21] <Aagni> wng_z3r0: hello
[11:21] <wng_z3r0> I am new to linux
[11:21] <wng_z3r0> but am having an install issue
[11:21] <Aagni> wng_z3r0: welcome "new to linux"
[11:21] <Ratzilla> lupine: nothing, ive tried turning keys off on my router but it still wont work, i havn't tried static ip yet
[11:21] <wng_z3r0> it is identical to this person
[11:21] <Dark_Wolf> must be nice to have high speeed internet so you people can download the cds
[11:21] <wng_z3r0> http://www.ubuntux.org/install-lockup#comment-298
[11:22] <lupine_> dark_wolf: text scrolls so fast here it's hard to keep track... and tbh it's more annoying being shouted at for asking an innocent question, than it is to be asked an innocent question politely
[11:22] <michaeljb2006> are there any docks out there similar to os x dock that are hardware rendered/opengl accelerated?
[11:22] <teethdood> anyone know which package the Xv video drivers are contained in?
[11:22] <wng_z3r0> anyone have ideas?
[11:22] <Dark_Wolf> sorry
[11:22] <Dark_Wolf> i had a bad day
[11:23] <lupine_> the only solution I know for a dodgy GUI install is to not do it that way. You can get hold of an AICD, or you can try debootstrap; or whereabouts in the world are you?
[11:23] <Dark_Wolf> why don't they ship the alternate cds?
[11:23] <Aagni> wng_z3r0: try opening a text console and looking at your system logs
[11:23] <msoul> Guess I should download the tarball
[11:23] <lupine_> if in the UK I can send you an AICD
[11:23] <msoul> or Debian package?
[11:23] <Gibbster> wng_z3r0: try cntl-alt-f1
[11:23] <msoul> Brb.
[11:23] <wng_z3r0> when?
[11:23] <wng_z3r0> at the setup screen?
[11:24] <Dark_Wolf> not in uk
[11:24] <lupine_> dark_wolf: I think the DVD's have the aicd functionality as well
[11:24] <Aagni> !aicd >Aagni
[11:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aicd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:24] <Dark_Wolf> the dvds aren't free though
[11:24] <Gibbster> wng_z3r0: it hangs when you log in, correct?
[11:24] <wng_z3r0> no
[11:24] <wng_z3r0> i boot to the cd
[11:24] <wng_z3r0> hit install
[11:24] <Dark_Wolf> ! Alternate Install
[11:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Alternate Install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:24] <wng_z3r0> it starts doing the install
[11:24] <Dark_Wolf> ! Alternate
[11:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Alternate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:24] <lupine_> can't do it then. Maybe post in installation problems (forum) and see if anyone in yuour country is willing to post you an AICD?
[11:24] <Gibbster> ah
[11:24] <wng_z3r0> then when the bar is 70% through
[11:25] <FurryNemesis> Dark_Wolf, you can't DL and burn one?
[11:25] <Gibbster> hm
[11:25] <wng_z3r0> the screen goes black
[11:25] <Dark_Wolf> I have dial up
[11:25] <Gibbster> wng_z3r0: have you tried checking the cd?
[11:25] <wng_z3r0> it has a blinking cursor
[11:25] <talios> hola - todays xserver update just hosed my box.  anyone got a URL of where I could download a previous .deb?  ( I don't seem to have any in apt cache and can't find my cd at the moment) - know issues?
[11:25] <wng_z3r0> and then the blinking stops
[11:25] <Dark_Wolf> it would take me 3 days
[11:25] <wng_z3r0> yes i checked the cd
[11:25] <FurryNemesis> ooooouch
[11:25] <wng_z3r0> i ran the verify cd test
[11:25] <lupine_> debootstrap would take you 1 (if all went well). post would take 2-3.
[11:25] <Aagni> wng_z3r0: once the install starts switch to console (ctrl+alt+F1)
[11:26] <wng_z3r0> aagni is a bot?
[11:26] <Dark_Wolf> no
[11:26] <Aagni> wng_z3r0: and see the install messages, if somethings going wrong it will show there
[11:26] <Aagni> wng_z3r0: no, i am not :)
[11:26] <Dark_Wolf> ubotu is a bot
[11:26] <wng_z3r0> ok
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <Persychka> , )
[11:26] <FurryNemesis> !moo
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <lupine_> don't believe him, he's programmed to say that ;)
[11:27] <lupine_> (j/k)
[11:27] <Aagni> wng_z3r0: i am not the one with a hax0r style name :D
[11:27] <wng_z3r0> any other instructions?
[11:27] <Dark_Wolf> ubotu Alternate CD
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Alternate CD - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <wng_z3r0> lol
[11:27] <wng_z3r0> google my name
[11:27] <wng_z3r0> look at the sponsered ad
[11:27] <Ratzilla> !ipw2200
[11:27] <FurryNemesis> it just won't die will it?
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipw2200 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <Dark_Wolf> !myself
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <tuxtux> ciao
[11:27] <Dark_Wolf> :)
[11:27] <lupine_> !bot-harrassment
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bot-harrassment - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <wng_z3r0> hmm
[11:28] <lupine_> ah well
[11:28] <wng_z3r0> the sponsored ad is gone :(
[11:28] <cica> !office
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about office - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <Dark_Wolf> !you
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <cica> !staroffice
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about staroffice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <abattoir> hello... is there a known issue w/ X breaking after latest updates?
[11:28] <mirkash> hi , I've update my ubuntu from hoary to dapper, and my sound card aint working, when I try to start some applications I get these messages
[11:28] <Dark_Wolf> !SpongeBob
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SpongeBob - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <tuxtux> ciao
[11:28] <msoul> still nothing....
[11:28] <wng_z3r0> here:
[11:28] <Kennyout> bots R bad, mkay?
[11:28] <wng_z3r0> http://spyware-free.us/2006/06/i-am-pest.html
[11:28] <Dark_Wolf> *gasp*
[11:28] <talios> abattoir - mine broke :(
[11:28] <mirkash> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21344
[11:28] <msoul> How can I upgrade fluxbox?
[11:29] <Aagni> wng_z3r0: so u are a pest .. is that what you are telling us ? ;)
[11:29] <Gibbster> For the network gurus: I'm using a cable modem. When I connect to my server through the lan ip, it works. When I connect through the ip my isp gave me, it only works within a few minutes of me logging in server locally
[11:29] <wng_z3r0> lol :) to malware writers I am
[11:29] <Dark_Wolf> does anyone here actually work at Canonical?
[11:29] <Gibbster> it works being any service
[11:29] <cica> !openoffice
[11:29] <lupine_> mirkash: oss emulation removed from the kernel, perhaps?
[11:29] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org".
[11:29] <wng_z3r0> aanyways
[11:29] <Dark_Wolf> does anyone here actually work at Canonical?
[11:29] <wng_z3r0> any other ideas
[11:29] <msoul> !fluxbox
[11:29] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[11:29] <mirkash> how can i check that and fix it
[11:29] <Gibbster> wng_z3r0:have you tried the console?
[11:29] <optikalmouse> what?
[11:30] <optikalmouse> openoffice has vector drawing?
[11:30] <abattoir> talios: ok, thanks... know of anyone else here?
[11:30] <kitche> optikalmouse: yeah it's called Draw
[11:30] <mirkash> lupine, how  can i check that and fix it
[11:30] <Aagni> wng_z3r0: like i said, you may want to check your logs for more hints
[11:30] <wng_z3r0> no
[11:30] <wng_z3r0> i'm dual booting this box
[11:30] <optikalmouse> right right
[11:30] <optikalmouse> i think i i'll stick to inkscape heh
[11:30] <Dark_Wolf> I'm dual booting on my laptop
[11:30] <talios> abattoir: not yet - I just did a reconfigure of x to see if that helped, but I think I hosed it even more :(
[11:30] <wng_z3r0> so i woant to get as many ideas as possible
[11:30] <lupine_> mirkash: 1 second
[11:30] <wng_z3r0> before rebooting
[11:30] <Dark_Wolf> I can't get it to work right
[11:30] <Dark_Wolf> brb
[11:31] <Dark_Wolf> switching computers
[11:31] <abattoir> talios: could you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[11:31] <harisund> does anybody know of an application that will let me play chess over the lan? GNU Chess doesn't :(
[11:31] <msoul> no one would like to help me upgrading my fluxbox? :-)
[11:31] <donrarib> hi everyone
[11:31] <optikalmouse> msoul: it can't be that hard :P
[11:32] <talios> abattoir: mmm, I could try - I'll have to copy the logs across 2-3 machines to get to a web browser :(
[11:32] <donrarib> i have a problem with the kilux
[11:32] <lupine_>  mirkash: install the package alsa-oss
[11:32] <donrarib> i cant get start it
[11:32] <msoul> optikalmouse: I did sudo apt-get upgrade but it doesn't work for some reason
[11:32] <ra1> heres my problem: the panels are stuck. i cant click on them and they dont do anything. even if i do killall gnome-panel. when i start a session in failsafe-gnome, i get this: this program cannot start until you start the dbus session service. (power management)
[11:32] <ra1> This is usually started automatically in X or gnome startup when you start a new session.
[11:32] <optikalmouse> msoul: weird
[11:32] <abattoir> talios: else you could see if it is similar to this... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21342
[11:33] <donrarib> and i beginner in linux
[11:33] <abattoir> talios: note the 'no screens found'
[11:33] <msoul> optikalmouse: Yeah, that's why I'm asking
[11:33] <ra1> when i make a new user the panels work fine.
[11:33] <talios> abattoir: no screens found here
[11:33] <donrarib> someone help me with kilux?
[11:33] <depi> can anybody help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240960&highlight=pgadmin ???
[11:33] <jrib> donrarib: what is kilux?
[11:33] <talios> abattoir: using a matrox card?
[11:34] <donrarib> kilux is the version of delphi for linux
[11:34] <donrarib> and i cant start it
[11:34] <donrarib> problem of lib
[11:34] <talios> donrarib: its probably unsupported now.
[11:34] <abattoir> talios: nope, i dont have the problem, but the error seems to be w/ X in general, rather than a driver for a specific card
[11:34] <lupine_> mirkash: ...then run aoss xmms
[11:34] <lupine_> (I think)
[11:35] <donrarib> strange, because the install its normal
[11:35] <lupine_> you can also just change the plugin from oss to alsa (or esd for gnome, or arts for kde)
[11:35] <msoul> Any idea guys?
[11:35] <donrarib> but when i start it
[11:35] <lupine_> donrarib: you need some special scripts for it
[11:35] <lupine_> since it was built against older linux
[11:35] <ra1> :(
[11:35] <mirkash> lupine, and then
[11:35] <talios> abattoir: ahh http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21346 is mine
[11:35] <donrarib> when i start it, this message show
[11:35] <lupine_> however, why not look at the free pascal compiler (fpc) and laxarus
[11:35] <talios> gah - sounds like our net is about to go down as well :(
[11:36] <donrarib> /home/donrarib/kylix3/bin/delphi: relocation error: /home/donrarib/kylix3/bin/libwine.borland.so: symbol errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[11:36] <lupine_> mirkash: ^...then run aoss xmms | you can also just change the plugin from oss to alsa (or esd for gnome, or arts for kde)  ^
[11:36] <donrarib> i follow the manual
[11:36] <lupine_> yes, it's compiled against glibc2.2, not glibc2.0
[11:36] <donrarib> and searching before
[11:36] <lupine_> 1 second and I'll see if I've still got the scripts
[11:36] <donrarib> but this error is very strange
[11:36] <Ratzilla> how do i verify that my wireless driver is working properly?
[11:37] <ToHellWithGA> i need TIFF support in firefox.  how do i do that?
[11:37] <donrarib> ok
[11:37] <mirkash> lupine , i  ran aoss xmms, but want work again
[11:37] <lupine_> donrarib: I don't have them any more.
[11:38] <lupine_> however, http://qc.borland.com/wc/qcmain.aspx?d=6339 fixes the specific error you've mentioned
[11:38] <lupine_> I'm sure there are others, thoughg
[11:38] <ToHellWithGA> i need TIFF support in firefox.  how do i do that?
[11:38] <donrarib> lupine, no problem
[11:38] <donrarib> tks
[11:38] <lupine_> it can work, but it's a hassle
[11:38] <Dark_Wolf> okay
[11:38] <Dark_Wolf> i'm back
[11:38] <Craz_1> Is it possible that KDE is faster then XFCE?
[11:38] <Dark_Wolf> will you take me through step by step?
[11:38] <Dark_Wolf> my computer is off
[11:38] <jrib> Craz_1: very doubtful
[11:38] <lupine_> mirkash: what happens if you change the audio output plugin to alsa ?
[11:38] <mirkash> lupine, where do I change the plugin
[11:39] <lupine_> in the preferences options somewhere, there's a tab called output plugins
[11:39] <lupine_> don't have it installed right now so can't give specific guide
[11:39] <Dark_Wolf> Aagni, can you take me through the process, start ubuntu or set options first?
[11:39] <Craz_1> Hrmm, It sure seems like it on my machine... and I had XFCE installed for like 2 months.. 1 week of KDE and it seems so much more quick..
[11:40] <Dark_Wolf> Aagni
[11:40] <jrib> Craz_1: well if it works well for you, use what you like :)
[11:40] <lupine_> kde uses a lot more ram, but if that's not a limiting factor then more-polished code could be a big influence on speed
[11:40] <lupine_> computing benchmarks are complete guesswork most of the time ;)
[11:41] <Craz_1> Yep ;) well for me KDE is faster.. its strange but .. oh well
[11:41] <Dark_Wolf> SOMEONE please help me
[11:41] <Dark_Wolf> i feel ignored
[11:41] <lupine_> what with?
[11:41] <lupine_> i seem to have missed a big chunk of conversation
[11:41] <abattoir> talios: the temporary fix seems to be downgrading to the last working version of X...
[11:41] <Dark_Wolf> i asked to be taken through the process step by step
[11:42] <lupine_> which process?
[11:42] <Dark_Wolf> the process of installing ubuntu
[11:42] <Dark_Wolf> because of my problem
[11:42] <finalbeta> test. sry
[11:42] <talios> abattoir: yah - sadly I don't have a deb of that handy - trying to find an iso in the office now :(
[11:42] <lupine_> using the gui installer? or an alternative method?
[11:42] <Dark_Wolf> with the console and everything
[11:42] <Dark_Wolf> gui
[11:43] <abattoir> talios: in /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[11:43] <mwe> Dark_Wolf: download the cd image and burn it. then boot the cd and follow the screens
[11:43] <talios> abattoir: nope :(  only the one xserver-core package ;(
[11:43] <lupine_> I've never used the gui installer, so can't help you with that
[11:43] <talios> abattoir: got one I could grab anywhere at all?
[11:43] <Dark_Wolf> mwe, I have made it clear that i have dial-up
[11:43] <Dark_Wolf> i know how to install it
[11:43] <abattoir> talios: oh, ok.. well someone at #kubuntu has it...
[11:43] <progrock> i just made an ftp server for my local network... it lets you log on a view your home folder, how do I make my storage directory viewable/
[11:43] <lupine_> change your nick to mwe|dialup ?
[11:44] <Ratzilla> when i try using ifup or dhclient, it says DHCOPDICOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255, what is the address 255.255.255.255 referring to?
[11:44] <progrock> storage partition*
[11:44] <Dark_Wolf> Aagni WAS helping me
[11:44] <lupine_> s/mwe/dark_wolf
[11:44] <lupine_> ratz\illa: universal broadcast (i.e. it should be doing that)
[11:44] <mirkash> lupine: is it in Sound Preferences, i have nothing to chose for default sound card there
[11:44] <lupine_> dark_wolf: unfortunately, we don't get paid for this ;).
[11:45] <mwe> Dark_Wolf: since I joined recently, can you restate your exact problem?
[11:45] <Ratzilla> lupine_: oh okay, thanks
[11:45] <Dark_Wolf> darkwolf|dialup
[11:45] <Dark_Wolf> i'm afraid I can't
[11:45] <lupine_> mirkash: that's ok. just choose the alsa, arts or esd plugin as appropriate
[11:45] <lupine_> yes you can - /nick dark_wolf|dialup
[11:45] <darkwolf|dialup> i meant restate my problem
[11:45] <darkwolf|dialup> not my nick
[11:45] <HellDragon> :(
[11:45] <darkwolf|dialup> oi'm using a diff computer
[11:46] <mirkash> lupine: but i cant chose anything there is no choice
[11:46] <lupine|8128-832> mirkash: 1 sec I'll install xmms
[11:46] <darkwolf|dialup> my install hangs on the time zone section
[11:46] <darkwolf|dialup> and I can't figure out why
[11:46] <darkwolf|dialup> i don't have an alt cd
[11:46] <darkwolf|dialup> just the one I was shiped
[11:46] <viator> !qemu
[11:47] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[11:47] <darkwolf|dialup> s/shiped/shipped
[11:47] <mirkash> lupine, my system sonds dont work as well
[11:47] <mwe> darkwolf|dialup: You're not the first person I've seen having problems with the GUI installer
[11:47] <darkwolf|dialup> now is anyone gonna help me???
[11:47] <darkwolf|dialup> getting frustrated
[11:48] <lamego> darkwolf|dialup, you already got help, use the alternate cd :)
[11:48] <darkwolf|dialup> I said I don't have one!!!
[11:48] <jorgp> what is in everyones /etc/group with id 11
[11:48] <lupine_85> what do you get if you "lspci |grep Mult" and lsmod  ?
[11:48] <lamego> darkwolf|dialup, we can't do nothing about the installer handing on the timezone selection
[11:48] <darkwolf|dialup> how many times do I have to repeat it?
[11:48] <Ratzilla> grr, i give up, im gonan format and then reinstall and hope that fixes this
[11:49] <lamego> darkwolf|dialup, and how many times do we need to repeat that you need to get it somehow ?
[11:49] <ben_> I am trying to play counter-strike 1.6 under wine. I have steam working great and everything but when I launch counter-strike it gives me the "preparing to play counter-strike..." dialogue box. Then when the game actually launches it barely flashes the game then x crashes. It goes to a command line waiting for me to login then after a few seconds goes to the graphical login.
[11:49] <ben_> can anyone help me with that problem?
[11:49] <darkwolf|dialup> i want to install ubuntu but the shipit cd is my only choice
[11:49] <lupine_85> as for the output plugin, it's options->preferences->audio i/o plugins->output plugin
[11:49] <mwe> darkwolf|dialup: The only solution I've seen to the GUI installer hanging is using the alternate install cd
[11:50] <aliveone> hey!
[11:50] <aliveone> anybody?
[11:50] <lamego> darkwolf|dialup, I am sorry, but the desktop cd installer seems to have a bug which is being triggered with your hw
[11:50] <lupine_85> tbh, debootstrap is starting to look like your best option
[11:50] <lamego> ? anyone > aliveone
[11:50] <ben_> anybody want to help me?
[11:51] <aliveone> need help
[11:51] <jorgp> lamego, nope, everyone here died
[11:51] <ballchalk> hello how do i mount an iso file?
[11:51] <jbroome> like jonestown
[11:51] <PardonMe> I have a problem with SSH.
[11:51] <aliveone> installation freezes in "mounting root volume"
[11:51] <lamego> lol :P
[11:51] <lupine_85> mount /path/to/iso -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/mount/dir
[11:51] <PardonMe> http://www.pastey.net/352 -- that's the -v output
[11:51] <ben_> any help?
[11:51] <PardonMe> Does anyone recognise that error?
[11:51] <ballchalk> lupine_85: thanks
[11:51] <lupine_85> ben: did you get any useful error messages?
[11:51] <ben_> no
[11:52] <niklas_e> anyone know where I can find info about how to make smssend work (with smsac or something)
[11:52] <ben_> lupine_85, no
[11:52] <mirkash> lupine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21352
[11:52] <lupine_85> then all I can suggest is googling for other people with the same problem, or maybe posting in the forum?
[11:52] <fritsch> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/57158
[11:52] <jorgp> PardonMe, did you search google?
[11:52] <PardonMe> Yes
[11:52] <fritsch> somebody having the same x startup problem after the current upgrade?
[11:52] <PardonMe> I tried setting VerifyReserveMapping to "no"
[11:52] <fritsch> please report in the above link
[11:53] <PardonMe> Is there anyhting I have to do to activate the changes?
[11:53] <lupine_85> mirkash: lsmod without the pipe (|), please :)
[11:53] <darkwolf|dialup> now i'm booting ubuntu
[11:53] <PardonMe> Like reset the SSH daemon?
[11:53] <aliveone> hello? anybody can help me?
[11:53] <lamego> ?? anyone
[11:53] <ben_> someone please help me
[11:53] <lamego> !! anyone
[11:53] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:53] <aliveone> e pa, ok anyone!!!!
[11:54] <Quicksilva> :/
[11:54] <aliveone> fonix
[11:54] <Linuturk> my Xserver core files were just updated
[11:54] <lamego> aliveone, coud you please write your qestion ?
[11:54] <aliveone> already did
[11:54] <aliveone> installation freezes in "mounting root volume"
[11:54] <Linuturk> but it didn't prompt for restart
[11:54] <mirkash> lupine, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21353
[11:54] <Linuturk> should I restart?
[11:54] <ben_> HELP
[11:54] <darkwolf|dialup> aliveone, we're telling you to say your question
[11:54] <Quicksilva> For some reason my screen is cropped on the left side only when using Ubuntu
[11:54] <Quicksilva> :<
[11:55] <darkwolf|dialup> !!question
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about question - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:55] <ben_> HELP
[11:55] <ben_> HELP
[11:55] <ben_> HELP
[11:55] <darkwolf|dialup> !anyone
[11:55] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:55] <Quicksilva> lol
[11:55] <SNow> who can help me to configure zebra /quaagga ??
[11:55] <aliveone> hummm... am I missing something?
[11:55] <darkwolf|dialup> !have
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about have - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:55] <wng_z3r0> hi
[11:55] <darkwolf|dialup> !a question
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about a question - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:55] <wng_z3r0> I'm back
[11:55] <lamego> aliveone, are your portuguese ? there are several posts on the pt forum about that problem and how to try to work around it
[11:56] <darkwolf|dialup> !anything
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <ben_> I am trying to play counter-strike 1.6 under wine. I have steam working great and everything but when I launch counter-strike it gives me the "preparing to play counter-strike..." dialogue box. Then when the game actually launches it barely flashes the game then x crashes. It goes to a command line waiting for me to login then after a few seconds goes to the graphical login.
[11:56] <wng_z3r0> buffer I/O error for hda and sda3
[11:56] <paulovitorbal> j #ubuntu-br
[11:56] <darkwolf|dialup> gui loaded
[11:56] <darkwolf|dialup> now
[11:56] <abattoir> darkwolf|dialup: please stop playing w/ the bot... you can /msg ubotu and then see its entries if you so desire
[11:56] <lupine_85> mirkash: well your audio drivers are in, but it looks like they're actually using oss for some reason (though I'm not certain about that, it seems very likely)
[11:56] <lupine_85> are you using gnome or kde?
[11:57] <lix> darkwolf: This is not the debian channel. stop flame-waring :)
[11:57] <ben_> I am trying to play counter-strike 1.6 under wine. I have steam working great and everything but when I launch counter-strike it gives me the "preparing to play counter-strike..." dialogue box. Then when the game actually launches it barely flashes the game then x crashes. It goes to a command line waiting for me to login then after a few seconds goes to the graphical login.
[11:57] <lamego> ben_, do not repeat !
[11:57] <Quicksilva> does anyone know what could cause my whole screens image to be shifted to the right only in linux
[11:57] <ben_> lamego, i was being ignored
[11:57] <Quicksilva> i have a big black bar of nothing on the left
[11:57] <lamego> ben_, not much of us here play CS, so please do not repeat, we can't help you
[11:57] <Quicksilva> and my screen is off on the right
[11:57] <madewokherd> Quicksilva: your monitor's settings?
[11:57] <lupine_85> quicksilva: there's an x program that'll fix the screen alignment for you
[11:57] <lupine_85> 1 second...
[11:57] <lamego> ben_, no you are not being ignore, is just there is no one to answer you
[11:58] <Quicksilva> yeah screen alighnment
[11:58] <ben_> lamego, where could i get help?
[11:58] <lamego> ben_, try the ubuntu forums, there is a gaming section
[11:58] <PardonMe> I had this problem earlier ... http://www.pastey.net/352 ... I fixed it by changing something about Reverse something... now I don't know what to do.
[11:58] <Quicksilva> Do you by any chance have a link for me :p
[11:58] <lamego> ben_, or google for wine+counter+strike
[11:58] <ben_> lamego, i tried that and waited a day and never got a response and tried google
[11:58] <Quicksilva> ill go have a look so long
[11:58] <HellDragon> Hi, i got a problem with apt-get , eveyrtime i try to install or remove something i get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), i already tried apt-get -f install and apt-get clean and a lot of things but itstill doesnt work :(
[11:59] <lupine_85> working on it :)
[11:59] <ben_> lamego, i guess back to windows it is
[11:59] <Quicksilva> thanks m8
[11:59] <mwe> ben_: Getting games to work in linux is too time consuming for me.
[11:59] <HellDragon> :(
[11:59] <F0LL0W3R> heey i have problem with ubuntu : yesterday i have deleted the oem account and made another one and when i did restartin a message appeared " no home directory found for the new user " and tried to back the old usename oem and now way
[11:59] <ben_> mwe, i had it working great the last time i installed ubuntu but then i reinstalled it and it did that
[11:59] <lix> HellDragon: Is it possible you've intrerrupted an installation or upgrade?
[11:59] <chris__> hi i am trying to get my joystick working.. what program do i use to test?
[11:59] <HellDragon> lix: since i installed rageIRCD i get that
[12:00] <lix> HellDragon: Do you use apt-get in the command line or synaptic/aptitude?
[12:00] <HellDragon> lix: command line
[12:00] <wng_z3r0> aagni
[12:00] <chris__> it says " input: GreenAsia Inc.    USB Joystick      as /class/input/input5"
[12:00] <mwe> ben_: that sucks. different wine version probably or steam was updated
[12:00] <HellDragon> since 4 hours i try to fix it
[12:00] <HellDragon> its pissing me off
[12:00] <lix> HellDragon:did you try "sudo apt-get update && apt-get -f upgrade" ?
[12:00] <xxpor2> how do i find out what package installs libgtkembedmoz.so
[12:00] <HellDragon> lix: trying
[12:00] <ben_> mwe, i dont think so, it was just a week ago
[12:00] <zorba64> xxpor, firefox or mozilla
[12:00] <lupine_85>  Quicksilva: xvidtune
[12:01] <mirkash> lupine: im using gnome
[12:01] <xxpor2> no the base pkgs dont include it zorba64
[12:01] <Quicksilva> cheers, gonna check softpedia