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| bddebian | Heya | 01:02 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 01:02 |
| bddebian | Hehe, whoops | 01:02 |
| Burgwork | hey bddebian, lots of greetings there | 01:10 |
| bddebian | Hi Burgwork | 01:10 |
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| kwak | hi, how can i get admin rights to upload files to edubuntu using winSCP? | 04:02 |
| jsgotangco | if your box has openssh server installed, users with ssh rights can upload files via scp to their $home dirs | 04:08 |
| kwak | ping goog | 04:17 |
| kwak | jstongo: im new to using edubuntu, been using K12LTSP and used root access privileges. I want to add a folder in /opt to be run auto by rc.local. | 04:20 |
| LaserJock | use sudo to get root privileges | 04:21 |
| kwak | il try | 04:22 |
| kwak | ok i configured screen_01 = startx but i only get grey screen, no login screen. what could be the cause | 04:26 |
| LaserJock | I'm not sure what you are doing | 04:27 |
| LaserJock | but usually startx doesn't give you a login screen | 04:27 |
| LaserJock | gdm is for that | 04:27 |
| kwak | so i should put screen_01 = gdm | 04:29 |
| kwak | new to edubuntu. been used to k12ltsp for 2 years just switched | 04:30 |
| LaserJock | to be honest I don't know | 04:33 |
| kwak | great! i really need to have to working as soon as possible. anybody out there can help | 04:48 |
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| sbalneav | Eveing all | 05:37 |
| LaserJock | hi sbalneav | 05:38 |
| sbalneav | Hey there laserjock! | 05:38 |
| LaserJock | kwak: can you describe what you are trying to do more (i.e. what file you are editing)? | 05:38 |
| sbalneav | Good news. Pitti approved the code I wrote for localdevs, so now lbmount, and ltspfs are in main! | 05:38 |
| sbalneav | Whoo hoo | 05:38 |
| LaserJock | \o/ | 05:40 |
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| === highvoltage gets another ton of spoofed ogra mail | ||
| Burgundavia | hey highvoltage | 09:20 |
| Burgundavia | I have noticed spam that has a picture with the spam and then random strings gleaned from a mailing list, coming to the -owners addy of the mailing lists I help run | 09:21 |
| highvoltage | hey Burgundavia | 09:21 |
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| highvoltage | yeah, the spam I am getting is even more evil, it comes directly into my inbox, using addresses of people I know (such as JaneW or ogra) | 09:22 |
| rodarvus | good morning | 09:23 |
| Burgundavia | morning RichEd | 09:26 |
| Burgundavia | hmm, haven't got them yet | 09:26 |
| RichEd | hi Burgundavia ... | 09:26 |
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| Burgundavia | anyway, I need to crash | 09:26 |
| Burgundavia | is midnight here | 09:26 |
| highvoltage | goodnight Burgundavia | 09:27 |
| highvoltage | mornign rodarvus and RichEd | 09:27 |
| RichEd | I am just popping my head in ... battling some kind of virus ... will probably be man down for most of the day. | 09:28 |
| rodarvus | hey highvoltage | 09:28 |
| ogra | highvoltage, worse is that jelkner always answers them | 09:28 |
| ogra | and complains the attached file didnt open ... | 09:29 |
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| Burgundavia | ogra: he is a trusting man | 09:30 |
| cbx33 | hi all | 09:30 |
| cbx33 | mornin ogra | 09:30 |
| cbx33 | mornin Burgundavia | 09:30 |
| Burgundavia | hey cbx33 | 09:30 |
| ogra | Burgundavia, a trusting man i told about 10 times that i dont send mails with word files attached :) | 09:31 |
| Burgundavia | some people are busy | 09:31 |
| Burgundavia | I do actually need to crash, so as much as this is | 09:31 |
| Burgundavia | good night all | 09:31 |
| cbx33 | nn | 09:31 |
| cbx33 | ogra: I just deleted those emails | 09:31 |
| cbx33 | I though....ogra _never_ _ever_ emails me personally :p | 09:32 |
| ogra | well, as anybody does i guess :) | 09:32 |
| cbx33 | well as we'd been talking about artwork, I wondered if you'd sent me some artwork pictures......but then I saw the MS crap, and thought better of it !!! :p | 09:32 |
| highvoltage | ogra: oh no! that is quite bad! (and very funny :p) | 09:35 |
| highvoltage | morning cbx33 and ogra | 09:35 |
| cbx33 | ogra did you get a chance to see the scp | 09:35 |
| cbx33 | mornin highvoltage | 09:35 |
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| cbx33 | mornin HedgeMage | 09:40 |
| HedgeMage | hi cbx33 | 09:40 |
| HedgeMage | just thought I'd pop on for a moment before bed | 09:41 |
| HedgeMage | finally got some Edubuntu Handbook work done... hopefully I'll have time to get another chapter or two finished tomorrow | 09:41 |
| cbx33 | nice one HedgeMage | 09:42 |
| HedgeMage | :) | 09:42 |
| HedgeMage | thanks | 09:42 |
| HedgeMage | At this point I just want the darn thing published so I can move on to devvy things :) | 09:43 |
| cbx33 | HedgeMage: hehehe | 09:43 |
| === HedgeMage is having coding withdrawal | ||
| cbx33 | HedgeMage: I know what you mean | 09:43 |
| cbx33 | I went away for a weekend break WITHOUT A PC ??? | 09:43 |
| HedgeMage | hey, I was at my folks' place for nearly 2 weeks without internet | 09:44 |
| cbx33 | HedgeMage: how did you cope | 09:44 |
| HedgeMage | oddly enough, I like being in the country enough that I don't miss it until I come back and realize how far behind I am | 09:44 |
| cbx33 | ogra: I'm looking at the spec, thinking about the plugins implementtation | 09:44 |
| highvoltage | hey HedgeMage | 09:45 |
| HedgeMage | hi highvoltage, what's up? | 09:45 |
| highvoltage | catching up, like always :) | 09:45 |
| HedgeMage | heh join the club :) | 09:46 |
| HedgeMage | OMG... I think TT may *finally* be asleep | 09:58 |
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| HedgeMage | it appears he means it this time... I'm off to bed now, too | 10:16 |
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| highvoltage | ugh. Laser_away's spec has been de-approved again :( | 11:36 |
| RichEd | willvdl: you dere bwana ? | 11:36 |
| highvoltage | (edubuntu-dynamic-menus) | 11:37 |
| highvoltage | hey willvdl | 11:37 |
| RichEd | highvoltage: why have the dynamic menus been de-approved = delay for later release or punted into touch ? | 11:38 |
| willvdl | hey folks | 11:39 |
| willvdl | sorry, looking at emails. not watching irc | 11:39 |
| RichEd | willvdl: meeting on thursday 12:00-1:00 pm - Marc Schmidt - Clive's new IT director | 11:41 |
| RichEd | okay with you ? | 11:41 |
| willvdl | excellent | 11:42 |
| RichEd | 12:00-12:30 will probably be him & me, with you joining at 12:30-1:00 | 11:42 |
| willvdl | take it Abrie called back? | 11:42 |
| RichEd | and then you & I can do 1:00-2:00 | 11:42 |
| RichEd | no Lynette ... check you email for details of her new job secondment | 11:43 |
| highvoltage | RichEd: check the whiteboard: https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/edubuntu-dynamic-menus | 11:43 |
| willvdl | hmmm, RichEd, I'm suprised my web queries did not point me there | 11:44 |
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| RichEd | nepad info is disconected by design ;) | 11:47 |
| RichEd | hi orga ... | 11:48 |
| RichEd | ogra even :P | 11:48 |
| RichEd | (not to confuse our geman coder with a misspelt great white shark) | 11:48 |
| willvdl | orca's are whales... | 11:53 |
| RichEd | meant to say killer whale ... brain fuzzed today ... as you can see in a major way from the evidence above | 11:56 |
| RichEd | highvoltage: i checked out the link, but don't see de-approved status : uds-paris (Accepted) ? am i missing something ? | 11:57 |
| highvoltage | RichEd: Definition: Discussion (Needs guidance) | 12:00 |
| highvoltage | RichEd: that was "Approved" before | 12:01 |
| RichEd | ahhhhhh ... | 12:01 |
| RichEd | It may fit well with a project that has just been approved (EU funding) ... so I will keep an eye on it. | 12:01 |
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| willvdl | ooh ooh, core 2 duo has arrived | 12:15 |
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| cbx33 | RichEd: has the SCP one beenapproved now? | 12:28 |
| RichEd | cbx33: SCP ? sorry virus ravaged brain is not decoding acronyms today ... | 12:32 |
| cbx33 | student control panel | 12:32 |
| RichEd | cbx33: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/student-control-panel-completion : Definition: Pending Approval (Needs guidance) | 12:39 |
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| cbx33 | RichEd: ah ok | 12:47 |
| cbx33 | I've done a lot of that spec now | 12:47 |
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| RichEd | highvoltage: this does not work -> gary@imlipinux.co.za <- please adjust your dyslexia filter | 01:22 |
| highvoltage | RichEd: lol | 01:24 |
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| highvoltage | RichEd: I was just about to say "hey, that's what it says on his businesscard" :) | 01:25 |
| RichEd | sounds like a new local flavour of fanta ! | 01:25 |
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| jsgotangco | ogra: are you aware your email is spoofed with spam at the moment? | 02:38 |
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| jsgotangco | doh | 02:38 |
| jsgotangco | ogry? | 02:39 |
| highvoltage | lol | 02:39 |
| jsgotangco | ogra: you email seems to be spoofed lately :/ | 02:39 |
| highvoltage | ogry is probably an angry ogra | 02:39 |
| Petaris | jsgotangco: At least he didn't change it to orgy | 02:40 |
| Petaris | lol | 02:40 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: i think he's aware of that (as well as everyone else who is in somebody's OE address book) | 02:40 |
| jsgotangco | ive seen him almost naked i wouldn't want to imagine more | 02:40 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: hehe | 02:40 |
| jsgotangco | highvoltage: how are you doing? | 02:40 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, yes, i noticed the 100s of answers from jelkner that he's not able to open my wordfile i sent ... | 02:41 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: i'm doing ok. | 02:41 |
| jsgotangco | bwahaha | 02:41 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: how are you doing? | 02:41 |
| jsgotangco | highvoltage: ive been pretty busy with a top secret edubuntu project | 02:41 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 02:41 |
| highvoltage | i'm trying to blog on 'how i am doing', but it's difficult to figure out :) | 02:42 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: top secret eh? | 02:42 |
| jsgotangco | sure | 02:42 |
| highvoltage | when I have something top secret, it's so top secret that I don't even mention that it's top secret ;) | 02:42 |
| jsgotangco | yeah but this is the ultimate top secret edubuntu project yet | 02:43 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: what's with the secrecy? don't want the world to know what you're doing? | 02:43 |
| jsgotangco | the beast of the east | 02:43 |
| jsgotangco | oh its no big deal really, we're just going to have edubuntu on 5,124 public schools over here | 02:43 |
| highvoltage | is that with the indonesian woman you talked about last week? | 02:44 |
| jsgotangco | err no | 02:44 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: cool | 02:45 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: sounds exciting | 02:46 |
| jsgotangco | im flying to sg next month for an IOSN training so for me its pretty much home focused at the moment | 02:46 |
| highvoltage | sg? | 02:49 |
| jsgotangco | singapore | 02:49 |
| highvoltage | aah | 02:49 |
| jsgotangco | i havent been much help development-wise lately :( | 02:50 |
| jsgotangco | although i'll make sure we get our SoC quiz app in universe in edgy | 02:50 |
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| highvoltage | jsgotangco: me neither :/ | 02:53 |
| highvoltage | setting up a new business is no joke, although I think most of the hardest parts are over. | 02:54 |
| jsgotangco | i can imagine | 02:55 |
| Petaris | Has anyone played with local apps on the ltsp setup? | 03:08 |
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| Petaris | ok, anyone know of a way to run the flash plugin on 64-bit | 03:11 |
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| cbx33 | yikes I lost all graphical after an xserver-worg-core update | 03:18 |
| cbx33 | :S | 03:18 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: many people did :( | 03:20 |
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| ogra | just run edgy, that works :P | 03:26 |
| Petaris | hrm | 03:26 |
| bimberi | !xorgbug | 03:26 |
| ubotu | If X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc') | 03:26 |
| bimberi | cbx33: ^^^^ | 03:26 |
| gnomefreak | its fixed | 03:27 |
| ogra | its already fixed afaik ... | 03:27 |
| cbx33 | yup | 03:27 |
| bimberi | is it propogated? | 03:27 |
| cbx33 | I just updated | 03:27 |
| cbx33 | thanks guys | 03:27 |
| gnomefreak | the uk servers have it along with the gb but thats all im aware of atm | 03:27 |
| cbx33 | phew I was worried | 03:27 |
| bimberi | k | 03:27 |
| Petaris | hrm, when trying to install (via apt) firefox into the ltsp chroot I get the following error: perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). Error, do this: mount -t proc none /proc | 03:27 |
| cbx33 | ogra, you around? | 03:27 |
| cbx33 | do you have two seconds for little old me? | 03:28 |
| ogra | only very partially | 03:28 |
| ogra | i'm very busy over here ... | 03:28 |
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| cbx33 | ok | 03:28 |
| cbx33 | I'll be brief | 03:28 |
| cbx33 | I've finished the kill/execute | 03:28 |
| ogra | yay ! | 03:29 |
| cbx33 | added in a little extra for you to see too ! :p | 03:29 |
| cbx33 | Message ! | 03:29 |
| cbx33 | you can send a single simple message to a client | 03:29 |
| ogra | i'll look at it tomorrow ... | 03:29 |
| ogra | should be done with localdev today, then i'll jump on SCP | 03:29 |
| cbx33 | like "Johnny Get off the pr0n sites" | 03:29 |
| ogra | hahaha | 03:29 |
| cbx33 | and it pops up in a GTK dialog box | 03:29 |
| cbx33 | I was goign to look at the plugin framework later | 03:30 |
| ogra | cool ! | 03:30 |
| cbx33 | so maybe if you have some time later we can chat about it? | 03:30 |
| ogra | not today, but tomorrow i'll plan some time for it ... | 03:30 |
| cbx33 | ok cool | 03:30 |
| cbx33 | oh | 03:31 |
| cbx33 | when you look at my branch | 03:31 |
| cbx33 | I have a portion commented out so that I can test locally | 03:31 |
| cbx33 | just ignore it | 03:31 |
| ogra | thats fine | 03:31 |
| cbx33 | it's in the function that picks up the usernames from the grepping of the ps | 03:31 |
| ogra | yep | 03:31 |
| ogra | i modify that too if i test without client attached :) | 03:32 |
| cbx33 | :) | 03:32 |
| cbx33 | ok cool | 03:32 |
| cbx33 | well enjoy I hope I havn't done too bad a job | 03:32 |
| cbx33 | It's nice and extendable | 03:32 |
| cbx33 | we'll chat about it tomorrow | 03:33 |
| ogra | yup | 03:33 |
| ogra | it shall go to main, so it has to pass a review by the security team anyway | 03:34 |
| cbx33 | I have a number of questions | 03:34 |
| cbx33 | but as I said they can wait till tomorrow | 03:34 |
| cbx33 | yes I guessed that | 03:34 |
| ogra | did sbalneav show up today ? | 03:37 |
| highvoltage | i think he was here very early in the morning | 03:38 |
| cbx33 | I havn't seen him today at all | 03:38 |
| Yagisan | !seen sbalneav | 03:38 |
| ubotu | I last saw sbalneav (n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net) 8h 16m 37s ago, quiting: "Ex-Chat" | 03:38 |
| ogra | ah, k | 03:38 |
| cbx33 | well done highvoltage | 03:39 |
| Yagisan | there you go ;) | 03:39 |
| cbx33 | hi Yagisan | 03:39 |
| ogra | right, i always forget about the bot | 03:39 |
| Yagisan | I wish that bot is in the channels I op on sometimes | 03:39 |
| highvoltage | :) | 03:39 |
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| sbalneav | Morning all! | 03:41 |
| willvdl | uncanny | 03:41 |
| cbx33 | very | 03:41 |
| willvdl | it's as if the bot pulled him into existence | 03:41 |
| cbx33 | almost freaky | 03:41 |
| sbalneav | You talkin' to me? | 03:42 |
| willvdl | !seen 1 Million Dollars? | 03:42 |
| sbalneav | Are you talkin' to me? | 03:42 |
| cbx33 | sbalneav, no | 03:42 |
| cbx33 | we're talking about you :p | 03:42 |
| willvdl | sbalneav, check the log | 03:42 |
| Petaris | What is the best way to be able to use flash player on a 64-bit ltsp server? | 03:42 |
| sbalneav | durrr | 03:43 |
| sbalneav | How do I do that? It posted somewhere? | 03:43 |
| cbx33 | Petaris, I didn't think that flash on 64bit was possible.... | 03:43 |
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| Petaris | cbx33: not nativly | 03:44 |
| bimberi | sbalneav: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ but they're a bit behind usually | 03:44 |
| highvoltage | Petaris: i think you have to run it from a 32bit chroot, your best bet might be to ask on #ubuntu | 03:44 |
| Petaris | highvoltage: I figured as much | 03:45 |
| Petaris | highvoltage: Do you know if local apps are possible on the ltsp clients yet? | 03:47 |
| cbx33 | Petaris, not yet | 03:47 |
| Petaris | hrm | 03:47 |
| cbx33 | Petaris, I am wishing for that day | 03:47 |
| willvdl | njrgh. internet is like a turtle stuck in peanut butter today | 03:47 |
| cbx33 | it will make edubuntu much more viable here | 03:47 |
| Petaris | cbx33: me too | 03:47 |
| highvoltage | willvdl: it's just 12plein bandwidth that's like that ;) | 03:48 |
| Petaris | its sad that ltsp on edubuntu is so far behind vanilla ltsp | 03:48 |
| Petaris | *functionality wise | 03:48 |
| Petaris | and yes I know they have very different ways of doing things | 03:49 |
| cbx33 | indeed they do | 03:49 |
| cbx33 | we're getting local devices this release :p | 03:49 |
| Petaris | yeah, that will be nice | 03:49 |
| Petaris | but less useful to me then local apps would be ATM | 03:50 |
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| willvdl | highvoltage, I can't even reach apt.hbd | 03:51 |
| cbx33 | Yagisan, me too | 03:51 |
| highvoltage | willvdl: eek | 03:53 |
| cbx33 | brb | 03:53 |
| willvdl | but that must be something else. I should have gigabit to server but still get 1.3ms ping | 03:54 |
| highvoltage | they upgraded the lan to gigabit!? | 03:55 |
| highvoltage | heh, they just waited for me to leave :) | 03:55 |
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| willvdl | I'm sitting at JaneW's old desk and the switch is right behind me | 03:57 |
| highvoltage | ah | 03:57 |
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| Petaris | Can Vanilla ltsp chroot be dropped in in place of the edubuntu one? | 04:02 |
| highvoltage | more or less | 04:03 |
| highvoltage | you can install ltsp.org on edubuntu just like you would on any other distro, but it's unsupported | 04:04 |
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| Petaris | highvoltage: define unsupported and then tell me what support is there for the current implementation? | 04:06 |
| Petaris | sorry, just a bit ticked about no local apps, its going to be hell here in a few days with staff returning | 04:07 |
| cbx33 | that X bug was big | 04:08 |
| cbx33 | it's the talk of the channels | 04:08 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: yep, local lugs here are also full of it. was a big boo-boo :( | 04:11 |
| cbx33 | I wouldn't like to be responsible for that boo boo | 04:11 |
| Petaris | highvoltage: If I just move the current chroot and drop in the vanilla should it just work? Or would there be other configuration to be done? | 04:11 |
| highvoltage | there would be some small changes | 04:11 |
| ogra | cbx33, send candy and beer to rodarvus for fixing it quickly :) | 04:12 |
| highvoltage | just off my head, you would probably need to copy the 'vanilla', as you call it, kernels to /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp | 04:12 |
| Petaris | hrm, what about the communication between the client and the server? | 04:13 |
| ogra | you need xdmcp enabled in gdm ... | 04:13 |
| cbx33 | ogra, I'll thank him personally when I see him | 04:13 |
| ogra | and its kind of gambling ... | 04:13 |
| Petaris | If memory serves edubuntu uses ssh tunnels, I don't remember what ltsp uses | 04:13 |
| ogra | i'd rather do a workstation install and use the full ltsp.org 4.2 instead of poking around and mixing up two implementations | 04:14 |
| ogra | nobody will be able to give you support for such a mixed setup ... neither ubuntu nor ltsp.org ... | 04:14 |
| Petaris | ogra: Any way to do that without rebuilding the base system? | 04:15 |
| ogra | on the other hand i dont see the problem to make local apps work in ubuntus ltsp ... | 04:15 |
| ogra | there is an article in the ltsp wiki that should help | 04:16 |
| Petaris | oh? | 04:16 |
| Petaris | you have a link? | 04:16 |
| ogra | no, you will need to search | 04:16 |
| ogra | i shouldnt even be here and chat ... | 04:16 |
| ogra | nautilus (2.15.92.1-0ubuntu2) edgy; urgency=low | 04:17 |
| ogra | . | 04:17 |
| ogra | * debian/patches/80_suppress_umount_in_ltsp.patch: | 04:17 |
| ogra | - don't list umount or eject actions on ltsp, | 04:17 |
| ogra | patch by Oliver Grawert <ogra@ubuntu.com> | 04:17 |
| ogra | yay :) | 04:17 |
| ogra | gnome-vfs2 (2.15.92-0ubuntu2) edgy; urgency=low | 04:18 |
| ogra | . | 04:18 |
| ogra | * The "Make it shiny for ltspfs" release. | 04:18 |
| ogra | * Add debian/patches/22_ignore_inaccessible_volumes.patch: | 04:18 |
| ogra | - libgnomevfs/{gnome-vfs-hal-mounts.c,gnome-vfs-volume-monitor-daemon.c}: | 04:18 |
| ogra | Do not create volumes for mount points which are inaccessible by the | 04:18 |
| ogra | user. | 04:18 |
| ogra | - Closes: LP#50554 | 04:18 |
| ogra | * Add debian/patches/23_ignore_ltspfs_volumes.patch: Ignore ltspfs mounts | 04:18 |
| ogra | since the current ltspfs implementation creates associated bind mounts to | 04:18 |
| ogra | /media. This prevents generating two volumes for the same mount. | 04:18 |
| ogra | double yay | 04:18 |
| ogra | :)) | 04:18 |
| cbx33 | w00t waty to go ogra | 04:19 |
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| cbx33 | ogra will we need the GPL/GNU license at the top of the scp code? | 04:28 |
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| RichEd | jsgotangco: you there ? | 04:29 |
| jsgotangco | yes | 04:29 |
| RichEd | heard of these guys : Axis Global - Philippines ? | 04:29 |
| jsgotangco | hmm yes | 04:30 |
| jsgotangco | big OEM | 04:30 |
| bddebian | Morning | 04:31 |
| bddebian | Hello jsgotangco | 04:31 |
| jsgotangco | hey bddebian | 04:31 |
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| cbx33 | ping pygi | 04:34 |
| cbx33 | got a sec? | 04:34 |
| pygi | cbx33, not really, sorry :( | 04:34 |
| cbx33 | ok np | 04:34 |
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| gotama | Hello There! | 05:16 |
| highvoltage | hi gotama | 05:17 |
| ogra | Accepted ltspfsd 0.2-0ubuntu1 (source) | 05:17 |
| ogra | :)))) | 05:17 |
| gotama | I setup two pcs (sever an client) to install over the network, every thing is fine. | 05:17 |
| gotama | But how can I use my CD on the server machine? | 05:18 |
| gotama | Going through the internet is too slow. Help please. | 05:18 |
| highvoltage | you want to play the cd on the server and hear it on the client? | 05:20 |
| gotama | I want to use the cd on the server to install edubuntu in the second machine. | 05:21 |
| gotama | The second pc doesn't have cdrom. | 05:22 |
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| gotama | The installer program ask for the mirror. | 05:24 |
| ogra | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuViaNetBoot | 05:24 |
| gotama | I want it use my CD on the server. | 05:24 |
| gotama | Thanks boys. I'm going to take a good look to EdubuntuViaNetBoot. | 05:30 |
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| juliux | ogra, we have a booth for edubuntu on the linuxworldexpo in cologne | 05:41 |
| ogra | cool | 05:41 |
| ogra | when is it ? | 05:42 |
| juliux | 14-17.11 | 05:43 |
| juliux | 14-16.11 | 05:43 |
| ogra | hmm ... | 05:43 |
| ogra | thats likely the date of the next ubuntu conf | 05:43 |
| juliux | hehe always the same | 05:44 |
| highvoltage | ogra: on the edubuntu forums, can you remember if it was decided that the forums should integrate with ubuntuforums, or whether it should be in the drupal site? | 05:46 |
| highvoltage | (sorry, I know you should chat) | 05:46 |
| Petaris | cbx33: Have you done anything with local apps or the fat client spec? | 05:46 |
| ogra | Petaris, thats postponed to edgy+1 until we have proper auth meachanisms | 05:47 |
| ogra | (fat clients) | 05:48 |
| ogra | highvoltage, i dont remember, but there must be a meeting log | 05:48 |
| pygi | highvoltage, hello, how's k3b? :) | 05:48 |
| Petaris | ogra: I was just wondering if he had played with it himself? | 05:48 |
| highvoltage | pygi: working well! | 05:48 |
| pygi | highvoltage, with libburn? good, good :) | 05:49 |
| highvoltage | Petaris: I've implemented fat clients for digital doorway (http://www.digitaldoorway.co.za) | 05:49 |
| highvoltage | but it's insecure on an open network (/home is exported via nfs) | 05:49 |
| Petaris | right | 05:49 |
| highvoltage | and the passwd and shadow and group files are stored in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc, | 05:49 |
| highvoltage | with symlinks from there to /etc | 05:50 |
| Petaris | I'm haveing trouble figuring out how to start the app on the client locally | 05:50 |
| highvoltage | it's not too much hard work to get that working on edubuntu, but also, it's unsupported, and upgrades will break. | 05:50 |
| cbx33 | Petaris, no | 05:53 |
| Petaris | highvoltage: I am less interested in fat clients then I am in just a couple of local apps | 05:54 |
| Petaris | ogra mentioned a doc in the wiki on local apps but I have been unable to find it | 05:54 |
| cbx33 | Petaris, it'll be good when it happens | 05:54 |
| cbx33 | but I'm gona wait till it's don properly by da man :p | 05:55 |
| Petaris | cbx33: I saw in the meeting notes from a while back that you asked about it | 05:55 |
| cbx33 | I did | 05:55 |
| cbx33 | I wondered if it was a spec for edgy | 05:55 |
| Petaris | so I wasn't sure if you were working on it or not | 05:55 |
| cbx33 | meee !!!! | 05:55 |
| cbx33 | no | 05:55 |
| cbx33 | I'm not that clever | 05:55 |
| Petaris | hrm | 05:56 |
| cbx33 | sorry bud | 05:56 |
| cbx33 | i know thereis a wiki document | 05:56 |
| cbx33 | hang onI'll try and find it | 05:56 |
| Petaris | local apps wouldn't be nessessary here if flash were avaliable for x86_64 | 05:56 |
| cbx33 | ah i see | 05:56 |
| Petaris | I found the fat client wiki, but I'm assuming thats not it | 05:56 |
| cbx33 | hence why I don;t use 64bit just yet | 05:56 |
| cbx33 | hmmm | 05:57 |
| cbx33 | I can't find it | 05:57 |
| cbx33 | there was one | 05:57 |
| cbx33 | think it's been deleted | 05:57 |
| Petaris | I wish adobe would release a ner version that has that support | 05:57 |
| Petaris | x86_64 isn't exactly new | 05:58 |
| cbx33 | no I know, but.... | 05:58 |
| cbx33 | not a lot we can do about it atm | 05:58 |
| Petaris | boycot adobe :) | 05:58 |
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| ogra | Petaris, there is a debian doc how to run firefox in a 32bit chroot on amd64 machines ... | 06:01 |
| ogra | its nothing you need local apps for at all | 06:02 |
| Petaris | ogra: I don't suppose you have a link to that? | 06:02 |
| ogra | if i look that up now, local devices wont happen today ... which will delay me even more | 06:03 |
| ogra | its somewhere on alioth.debian.org | 06:03 |
| Petaris | ok, I'll look there | 06:03 |
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| Petaris | cbx33: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=160318&highlight=32-bit+chroot | 07:35 |
| cbx33 | Petaris, too much like hard work | 07:39 |
| cbx33 | :p | 07:39 |
| cbx33 | I'll stick with i386 for now | 07:39 |
| cbx33 | !!! hehehe | 07:39 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about hehehe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 07:39 |
| cbx33 | sorry ubotu | 07:39 |
| Petaris | cbx33: just thought you might find it interesting | 07:40 |
| cbx33 | indeed I did | 07:40 |
| cbx33 | I'll probably try it out | 07:40 |
| cbx33 | on my machine at work | 07:40 |
| cbx33 | as it is 64 bit, and I need flash sometimes | 07:40 |
| Petaris | hrm | 07:42 |
| Petaris | what was the command to regenerate the ssh-keys for the clients? | 07:42 |
| Petaris | was it just ltsp ssh-keygen | 07:43 |
| ogra | in case anyone wants to test: | 07:45 |
| ogra | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edgy-changes/2006-August/004260.html | 07:45 |
| ogra | (in edgy only indeed) | 07:45 |
| ogra | :D | 07:45 |
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| ogra | lucasvo, ^^^ | 07:46 |
| lucasvo | ogra: apt-get install ltspfs? | 07:47 |
| ogra | lucasvo, get that version of ltsp | 07:49 |
| ogra | sudo apt-get install ltspfs on the server | 07:49 |
| ogra | sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/ apt-get install ltspfsd | 07:49 |
| ogra | for the client | 07:49 |
| lucasvo | ltsp-server is already the newest version. | 07:50 |
| ogra | i havent added a echo "fuse" >> /etc/modules to the postinst script yet | 07:50 |
| ogra | so you need to do that manually | 07:50 |
| ogra | and the user needs to be in the fuse group | 07:50 |
| lucasvo | which user? | 07:52 |
| ogra | the user that uses localdev | 07:52 |
| ogra | which other user would i mean :) | 07:53 |
| lucasvo | I don't know, maybe an ltsp user? | 07:54 |
| ogra | indeed | 07:54 |
| ogra | what other user would use thin client devices ;) | 07:54 |
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| ogra | :) | 07:56 |
| cbx33 | oooh | 07:57 |
| cbx33 | you showoff ogra | 07:57 |
| ogra | hehe | 07:57 |
| cbx33 | ogra I wanted to as ka quick SCP related question | 07:58 |
| cbx33 | well not just SCP | 07:58 |
| cbx33 | teachers...ie people who are goign to use SCP, I dn;t know about you, but me being an administrator of a school system | 07:58 |
| ogra | they shut down the net and lock the room in 2 min | 07:58 |
| cbx33 | I don;t want them having sudo access | 07:58 |
| cbx33 | you know our ACL lets root send to the system bus for SCP | 07:58 |
| cbx33 | what about having a %admin% group | 07:59 |
| ogra | yep | 07:59 |
| cbx33 | which teachers could be a part of | 07:59 |
| ogra | we have the admin group ;) | 07:59 |
| cbx33 | instead of using sudo | 07:59 |
| ogra | that wont work | 07:59 |
| cbx33 | why? | 07:59 |
| cbx33 | just curious | 07:59 |
| ogra | the admin group is what gives you sudo | 07:59 |
| cbx33 | oh | 07:59 |
| ogra | see /etc/sudoers :) | 07:59 |
| cbx33 | what abotu a teaacher group?# | 07:59 |
| ogra | no | 07:59 |
| ogra | make SCP run as a special user like willow | 07:59 |
| ogra | bye | 08:00 |
| cbx33 | b-y-e? :S | 08:00 |
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| lucasvo | ok, it's not working on first attempt | 08:02 |
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| Petaris | cool, I have flash workign | 08:04 |
| Petaris | er, working | 08:04 |
| cbx33 | hi LaserJock | 08:07 |
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| LaserJock | :( | 08:12 |
| LaserJock | where did ogra go | 08:12 |
| Petaris | what was the command to regenerate the ssh-keys for the clients? | 08:13 |
| Petaris | I thought it was something like ltsp-update ssh-keys | 08:14 |
| Petaris | ahh, nevermind | 08:15 |
| Petaris | ltsp-update-sshkeys | 08:15 |
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| willvdl | ah, alsamixer. course | 08:43 |
| crimsun | that's not the drivers; that's alsa-utils. | 08:43 |
| crimsun | heh, I just scrambled to check whether I had made a packaging error. I was fairly certain there was nothing that built against or depended on libncurses5{-dev,} | 08:44 |
| crimsun | $ apt-cache depends alsa-base alsa-source linux-sound-base |grep ncurs | 08:44 |
| crimsun | $ | 08:44 |
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| cbx33 | Hi Amaranth | 08:48 |
| Amaranth | hey | 08:48 |
| Amaranth | just got internet turned back on at my house | 08:48 |
| cbx33 | woohooo | 08:48 |
| Amaranth | yeah | 08:49 |
| Amaranth | 300 unread emails :/ | 08:49 |
| Amaranth | i just checked them yesterday when i was at the library | 08:49 |
| Petaris | bugger, I just found out were going to be about 650,000 US in the whole this year | 08:53 |
| Petaris | I wonder if they are going to cut staff | 08:53 |
| Petaris | at the very least I bet my budget dissappears | 08:53 |
| cbx33 | Petaris, how much is your budget a year | 09:00 |
| willvdl | crimsun :) | 09:15 |
| willvdl | sound issues on ALC883 | 09:16 |
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| Petaris | cbx33: 10k US | 09:19 |
| cbx33 | how many people? | 09:19 |
| Petaris | about 100 staff and 635 students | 09:19 |
| Petaris | 200 workstations | 09:20 |
| Petaris | *including the two 25 client ltsp labs | 09:20 |
| cbx33 | that is a tiny budget | 09:20 |
| Petaris | yeah | 09:20 |
| Petaris | but its usually one of the first things to get chopped | 09:21 |
| cbx33 | mine is about $16000 this year | 09:21 |
| crimsun | willvdl: sorry, I have no idea what "sound issues on ALC883" refers to (missing context entirely) | 09:21 |
| cbx33 | last year we had $400,000 :D a kind of grant | 09:22 |
| willvdl | crimsun, my alsa comment was worse. | 09:23 |
| Petaris | cbx33: nice | 09:23 |
| Petaris | cbx33: What type of org do you work for? | 09:24 |
| cbx33 | I work for a secondary school in the UK | 09:24 |
| Petaris | ahh | 09:24 |
| crimsun | willvdl: I really have no idea what you mean. Are you implying you're having issues in Ubuntu [Warty? Hoary? Breezy? Dapper? Edgy?] with the HDA Realtek 883 codec? | 09:24 |
| willvdl | crimsun, yeah, sorry was typing too slow | 09:25 |
| crimsun | willvdl: Which Ubuntu release? Are you running the latest errata kernel (2.6.15-26.46)? What sort of issues? | 09:26 |
| willvdl | 2.6.15-26-686 | 09:27 |
| willvdl | trying to patch the alsa drivers with an Acer patch | 09:27 |
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| crimsun | which acer patch in particular? | 09:31 |
| LaserJock | hmmm, I wonder if it is bed time in Germany | 09:31 |
| crimsun | it's getting fairly late at night. Are you referring to o gra's bedtime (is there one?) or other people's? | 09:33 |
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| willvdl | hmm, lost it | 09:34 |
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| LaserJock | crimsun: all the disto sprint people seem to be gone | 09:36 |
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| LaserJock | oliver, rodrigo, richard | 09:36 |
| crimsun | they're probably all getting smashed. I certainly would be. | 09:36 |
| Burgwork | rodrigo is probably drinking away the pain of breaking so many people's computers :) | 09:37 |
| LaserJock | heh | 09:37 |
| LaserJock | poor guy | 09:37 |
| Burgwork | given he is not an X guy, I feel sorry for him | 09:38 |
| Burgwork | but given we almost lost Luis Villa, I don't | 09:38 |
| LaserJock | I'm feeling like -updates and the point release did not work very succesfully | 09:38 |
| LaserJock | we put out this LTS release, and then we have a ton of updates some of which break previously working packages | 09:39 |
| Burgwork | updates has, this X issue was one | 09:39 |
| Burgwork | the point release works | 09:39 |
| Burgwork | this X is the only piece I have seen that breaks anything | 09:39 |
| LaserJock | I've heard people say that they had issues with the point release | 09:40 |
| LaserJock | ah, well lower scale stuff | 09:40 |
| LaserJock | doko uploaded a completely uninstabllable matplotlib | 09:40 |
| LaserJock | to universe -update | 09:40 |
| LaserJock | caused some problems | 09:40 |
| crimsun | I know of a Via patch that hasn't been merged into linux-source-2.6.15 yet, too | 09:40 |
| LaserJock | and then didn't care to fix the package | 09:40 |
| crimsun | people will continue to howl, but that's just the price we pay as volunteers | 09:41 |
| LaserJock | people wondered why it was called LTS if it needs so many updates and they updates aren't very well tested | 09:41 |
| crimsun | to be fair, it wasn't well tested upstream, either | 09:42 |
| LaserJock | what wasn't the via patch? | 09:42 |
| crimsun | the X server one | 09:42 |
| LaserJock | ah | 09:42 |
| crimsun | heck, I think there were only -two- confirmations | 09:42 |
| LaserJock | well, it seems like a problem to me when -updates decreases the stability of the release | 09:42 |
| LaserJock | I guess it's something mdz, et al. have to worry about | 09:43 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 09:43 |
| willvdl | ah, found it: https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2378 | 09:44 |
| LaserJock | but uploading packages you haven't even test installed seem a little ... | 09:44 |
| crimsun | willvdl: so you need acer-alc883-fix2.diff? | 09:46 |
| willvdl | trying that one now | 09:47 |
| crimsun | willvdl: will you pastebin your ``lspci -nv'' output so I can confirm it's relevant to you? | 09:47 |
| willvdl | snd- modules are howling in dmesg | 09:47 |
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| willvdl | eish, internet v slow... | 09:49 |
| willvdl | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21424 | 09:52 |
| crimsun | willvdl: yep, was just discussing that in #alsa about an hour ago | 09:55 |
| willvdl | worth checking logs? | 09:56 |
| crimsun | not really, I just need to sanity-check that patch | 09:56 |
| crimsun | the pci_subdevice id looks suspicious | 09:56 |
| crimsun | (not yours but in the patch) | 09:57 |
| willvdl | set to zero | 09:57 |
| crimsun | yes, that's probably meant to mask off anything, which would be incorrect | 09:57 |
| willvdl | yet some claim success. I suspect my problem is elsewhere | 09:59 |
| crimsun | well your sub{vendor,device} ids match, so it probably _does_ work, but I need to make sure the id isn't a snafu | 10:01 |
| willvdl | hmm, no luck with either patch | 10:06 |
| crimsun | you should only need the second | 10:07 |
| crimsun | did you unload all the alsa modules then load the fixed ones? | 10:07 |
| willvdl | yip. dmesg comes alive | 10:07 |
| crimsun | what syntax? | 10:08 |
| willvdl | sorry, missing you here? | 10:09 |
| crimsun | what commands did you use to unload and reload the sound drivers? | 10:10 |
| willvdl | modprobe -r | 10:10 |
| willvdl | modprobe snd-hda-intel model=acer | 10:11 |
| crimsun | hopefully not ``modprobe -r'' by itself? | 10:12 |
| willvdl | no :) removed all the snd- mods | 10:12 |
| crimsun | you shouldn't have needed to pass the model parameter at all | 10:13 |
| willvdl | tried without too | 10:13 |
| willvdl | angon, didn't "actually" unload the modules cause of the dependencies... | 10:16 |
| crimsun | you need to be very thorough, because I'm not willing to patch the kernel with a bogus patch. | 10:16 |
| crimsun | I'm pretty sure this pci_subdevice is completely wrong | 10:17 |
| crimsun | 0x0000 does _not_ match 0x0102 | 10:17 |
| willvdl | darn, can't force module removal. | 10:18 |
| crimsun | please force the specific subdevice model | 10:18 |
| crimsun | i.e., change: | 10:19 |
| crimsun | { .pci_subvendor = 0x1025, .pci_subdevice = 0/*0x0102*/, | 10:19 |
| crimsun | to: | 10:19 |
| crimsun | { .pci_subvendor = 0x1025, .pci_subdevice = 0x0102, | 10:19 |
| willvdl | in the patch no doubt | 10:19 |
| crimsun | in the source | 10:19 |
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| Petaris | Hi mhz | 10:24 |
| mhz | Petaris: hi there | 10:24 |
| willvdl | should I configure with sequencer? | 10:27 |
| ggeller | Is there a way to tell which version of the Edubuntu 6.06 install disk I have? | 10:28 |
| crimsun | willvdl: that's orthogonal to your speaker working. | 10:28 |
| ggeller | My install is failing at the "building LTSP Chroot" step, similar to what was described in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-devel/2006-March/001152.html | 10:29 |
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| willvdl | ggeller, the reference speaks of prior 6.06 release | 10:33 |
| ggeller | OK. Any idea why my install would get to that step then die with just a black screen? I happened twice in a row. | 10:34 |
| willvdl | hmm, happened to me once. are you wanting to build a server? | 10:36 |
| ggeller | I didn't ask for a server, just the standard install. | 10:37 |
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| willvdl | have you tried a workstation install? | 10:38 |
| ggeller | I guess not. I told it what partition to use on my hd. Maybe I need to look at the pre-partitioning options more carefully. | 10:40 |
| ggeller | I just selected "Install to hard disk" as the first step. This time I'm doing "Install a workstation". | 10:43 |
| willvdl | unless of course you want a thin-client server :) | 10:44 |
| ggeller | It seems to be working now. Thanks for the help. | 10:50 |
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| pygi | highvoltage, poke? | 11:33 |
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| Burgwork | pygi, how goes it? | 12:09 |
| pygi | Burgwork, great, what about you? :) | 12:09 |
| Burgwork | not bad | 12:09 |
| pygi | fighting with libburn & friends :) | 12:10 |
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